| 00:01.04 | NivFreak | man, I was the armory was less buggy |
| 00:01.09 | NivFreak | wowjutsu is having a hard time |
| 00:01.30 | Gnarfoz | wowjutsu should fix some of their long standing problems, too |
| 00:01.39 | NivFreak | I wish the guys that work on it were here :) |
| 00:01.45 | Gnarfoz | ever since they moved servers, they've messed up locales badly |
| 00:01.46 | NivFreak | or in some other channel |
| 00:02.13 | NivFreak | We just had a bunch of loot that we got get credited to other guilds |
| 00:02.14 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r63495 10PitBull/Aura/ (Options.lua Update.lua): PitBull_Aura: only show weapon buffs on the player frame. |
| 00:02.18 | NivFreak | since we're newly formed |
| 00:02.20 | Gnarfoz | seems they weren't on a machine with utf-8 before, and now they are... for everything that has special characters in the name, you get several copies of the guild |
| 00:02.29 | NivFreak | the armory is a bit inconsistent on how it shows which guild people are in |
| 00:02.41 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: ouch |
| 00:02.47 | Gnarfoz | but you can only click one of them because when creating the actual HTML, it mangles all special characters through urlencode which fixes that for the links |
| 00:02.54 | Gnarfoz | but in the database, there are several sets ^^ |
| 00:03.32 | NivFreak | hah |
| 00:03.39 | NivFreak | I hate encodings |
| 00:03.42 | NivFreak | such a PITA |
| 00:03.50 | Gnarfoz | http://wowjutsu.com/eu/dassyndikat/ <-- my guild is both on #9 and #11 |
| 00:05.12 | kenlyric | crazy germans |
| 00:05.16 | Gnarfoz | indeed :> |
| 00:05.25 | Gnarfoz | was BT content ever really nerfed, btw? |
| 00:05.36 | Yssaril | how can i detect if a calculation doesn't return a valid number say with 256*math.cos(math.asin(257/256)) |
| 00:05.40 | NivFreak | "bug fixed" |
| 00:05.42 | Yssaril | lua> local a = 256*math.cos(math.asin(257/256)) |
| 00:05.42 | lua_bot | Yssaril: No output |
| 00:05.48 | NivFreak | mother got nerfed pretty hard, no? |
| 00:05.49 | Yssaril | lua> 256*math.cos(math.asin(257/256)) |
| 00:05.50 | lua_bot | Yssaril: nan |
| 00:05.51 | kenlyric | it was never really that hard |
| 00:06.14 | doc^bla | lua> type(256*math.cos(math.asin(257/256))) |
| 00:06.14 | lua_bot | doc^bla: number |
| 00:06.16 | Gnarfoz | we're up to 4/5 & 4/9 now, and it's only been what, 3 IDs? |
| 00:06.38 | Gnarfoz | I guess the other 5 in BT are the tough ones now, Archimonde doesn't seem to bad if people managed to simply NOT DIE :D |
| 00:06.39 | doc^bla | first 3-4 are easy |
| 00:06.42 | Yssaril | doc^bla: already tried that /sigh |
| 00:07.50 | Gnarfoz | heh, one of our hunters MD'd Naj'entus onto one of our mages today instead of onto the Main Tank xD |
| 00:08.12 | Gnarfoz | that was fun. ;D |
| 00:08.50 | kenlyric | don't your mages have macros by now to remove that? |
| 00:09.05 | kenlyric | all our cloth wearers learned that in karazhan |
| 00:09.30 | kenlyric | hunters are bored douches who like wasting the raid's time. crush them where you can |
| 00:09.43 | Gnarfoz | no one noticed, it was actually by accident xD |
| 00:10.05 | Gnarfoz | and that's even though several of us have BigBrother which clearly showed the mistake beforehand :D |
| 00:10.38 | Gnarfoz | but I agree, hunters should be crushed :< ours seem to get worse and worse by the day lately |
| 00:11.11 | Bifuu | Hunters are cool =( |
| 00:11.15 | Gnarfoz | could have one-shotted Teron on the first ever try, but one of them managed to just wait out his entire Shadow debuff in the middle of the raid. :< |
| 00:11.24 | Yssaril | but its always fun if they get one off on our guildmaster :P its like a game of chicken |
| 00:11.39 | Bifuu | Gnarfoz: Thats just an idiot you have lol |
| 00:11.47 | Bifuu | Link him that flash game |
| 00:12.00 | Gnarfoz | everyone had the flash game beforehand |
| 00:12.13 | Gnarfoz | I guess that's why that first try was a wipe at 8% because of him alone |
| 00:12.28 | Megalon | Bifuu: the probability to get an total idiotic hunter, is pretty... high? :y |
| 00:12.49 | Gnarfoz | he said he had so many buffs and stuff going on that his DBM alerts/whatever were overlapping each other and whatnot |
| 00:12.52 | Bifuu | I'm not an idiot hunter =( |
| 00:13.10 | Gnarfoz | nevermind the clear indicators: you've got the debuff + people yelling your name on TS... |
| 00:13.23 | Bifuu | Theres your problem |
| 00:13.27 | Bifuu | you should get Vent |
| 00:13.31 | Gnarfoz | well... no? :p |
| 00:13.49 | Gnarfoz | I dunno why, but US seems to be vent, EU seems to be TS xD |
| 00:14.00 | Bifuu | quality was so bad he prolly couldnt understand you guys haha |
| 00:14.06 | Gnarfoz | errm |
| 00:14.19 | Gnarfoz | 25.9k speex is pretty high quality ;) |
| 00:14.24 | Gnarfoz | can't set up your own vent severs legally, anyway, so vent sucks |
| 00:14.37 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather use skype then ventrilo, lol |
| 00:14.47 | Bifuu | lol Never seen a TS hosted State Side with a Speex |
| 00:15.02 | Gnarfoz | they fail then? :D |
| 00:15.30 | Pkekyo| | bollocks...1:15am...I really should've learned to start working on my schoolwork earlier by now... |
| 00:15.34 | Bifuu | I get in a TS here that they say is "Vent Quality" and it soulds like they are talking on a cell phone underwater |
| 00:16.08 | Gnarfoz | no wonder, really, if they weren't using Speex, they were using... GSM! :D which is... you know where I am going with this ;) |
| 00:16.24 | Bifuu | haha yea |
| 00:17.17 | Gnarfoz | "Anyone who provides access to a Ventrilo server that is not version 3.0 is committing fraud." < I like this one :D |
| 00:17.21 | Arrowmaster | we've always used Speex on our vent servers |
| 00:18.20 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: wheres that from? |
| 00:18.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how's that marking addon going? |
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| 00:18.28 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: ventrilo.com :> |
| 00:18.32 | Bifuu | Arrow: Ever seen a Speex on a TS before tho? =P |
| 00:18.52 | voidwalker | where can i see how many insignias i have picked up in a battleground? |
| 00:19.11 | Arrowmaster | i dont use TS anymore |
| 00:19.23 | Arrowmaster | and that statement on their site is funny because its not true |
| 00:19.41 | Ackis | anyone in the channel notice if ackis recipe list received any commits today? did some commits at work however they don't appear on the svn and i didn't receive any errors while doing it |
| 00:19.47 | Gnarfoz | the other part is "4.1.1 The Software may be used at any point in time only by eight (8) Client Computers." |
| 00:20.10 | Gnarfoz | so for anything over 8 slots, you have to pay someone who's got a license, which in turn means they're a hosting company |
| 00:21.04 | Gnarfoz | what's annoying me about teamspeak tho, is that it seems to me that they haven't actually got the source code to the damn software :D |
| 00:21.43 | Gnarfoz | the only thing they're ever releasing is very minor bug fixes and security patches, probably hex-edited into the binaries or whatever, it's really weird. TS3 is so long overdue now it's not even funny anymore xD |
| 00:22.04 | Arrowmaster | vent 2.2 or 2.3, i cant remember which one is still legal to use and host as many slot as you want since it was never limited to 8 for the public server |
| 00:22.21 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: perhaps ts3 will be the ingame voic chat of DNF |
| 00:22.27 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: indeed |
| 00:22.47 | dodga | I use Speex on my TS :P |
| 00:22.51 | Arrowmaster | vent for linux is also extremely long overdue |
| 00:22.55 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah, but you know, legalese scares the witless... they called 3.0 a "mandatory update" |
| 00:23.12 | Arrowmaster | i think they created the locked forum for it just to make people stop asking them to create one |
| 00:23.39 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: for their licensed hosting providers it probably is a mandatory update |
| 00:24.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but they're saying there shall be no other than licensed ones, by making a new license... which feels somewhat like a retcon to me :D |
| 00:29.06 | Gnarfoz | I should probably update my servers, while I'm thinking about TS right now :D |
| 00:30.28 | Bifuu | I should learn lua :D |
| 00:30.41 | Gnarfoz | I *should* do more productive things, too xD |
| 00:30.53 | Bifuu | haha |
| 00:31.33 | Bifuu | are there any quality tutorials for lua and addons? |
| 00:32.55 | [dRaCo] | it says ignore right there :/ |
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| 00:34.44 | Kemayo | Aha. |
| 00:35.27 | Kemayo | Powershell needed the "--ignore-externals" in quotes. |
| 00:36.02 | Yssaril | anyone know which would be more expensive to use (a<=0) and (a>=0) or use a<=math.huge |
| 00:37.37 | Diao | math.huge is a constant isn't it |
| 00:38.06 | Yssaril | idk lua.org just sais The value HUGE_VAL, a value larger than or equal to any other numerical value. |
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| 00:39.03 | [dRaCo] | sounds like a constant to me |
| 00:39.43 | [dRaCo] | but, unless you compare something like 100 times a second, it shouldnt really matter |
| 00:40.37 | [dRaCo] | btw, I dont get what you're trying to do there |
| 00:40.52 | Diao | check if a value is non-infinite? |
| 00:40.57 | Diao | or no |
| 00:41.00 | [dRaCo] | (a<=0) and (a>=0) is only true for a = 0 |
| 00:41.00 | Diao | check if a value is a number |
| 00:41.00 | Yssaril | nope |
| 00:41.26 | Yssaril | actually that was supposed to be an or not an and :P |
| 00:41.57 | Yssaril | yep 256*math.cos(math.asin(257/256)) want to check that if it returns a valid number |
| 00:42.34 | Yssaril | 256*math.cos(math.asin(X/256)) is actually what i am using (kinda) |
| 00:43.49 | Yssaril | so i just check if the number is part of the regular numberspace and if it isnt then i know i cant use it for further calculations |
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| 00:45.48 | testify | I just installed aloft and am trying it out. I'm having an issue with the casting bar getting stuck 1/3rd of the way through the complete cast and staying there. Anyone know what might be up? |
| 00:46.44 | Gnarfoz | random occurence, it will probably go away on its own and annoy you some other time again :< |
| 00:47.22 | Gnarfoz | for me it's always coming back when I'm on interrupt/kick duty somewhere so I have to check PitBull for a working castbar :< |
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| 00:47.47 | testify | It's stupid because my Pitbull casting bar works like a charm everytime |
| 00:47.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 00:48.09 | voidwalker | can anyone tell me what remove insignia does in a battleground? |
| 00:48.20 | Gnarfoz | but I guess there's some huge difference in the background of how things work |
| 00:48.38 | Gnarfoz | voidwalker: gets you some moneys and prevents the enemy from reviving at their corpse |
| 00:48.55 | voidwalker | oh that's it..? |
| 00:48.57 | voidwalker | pfft |
| 00:53.18 | Bifuu | shocking huh |
| 01:00.08 | CIA-9 | 03fin * r63496 10Prat/ (38 files in 5 dirs): Prat: *terribly* sorry about the mixup |
| 01:00.29 | NeoTron | mysterious change message |
| 01:00.52 | Fin | curiouser and curiouser |
| 01:00.57 | kebinusan | very |
| 01:03.21 | Arrowmaster | what did you mess up? |
| 01:04.22 | Fin | I don't know, what did you mess up? |
| 01:04.36 | Diao | terribly sorry huh |
| 01:04.38 | Fin | I messed my trousers |
| 01:04.44 | Fin | poop |
| 01:07.15 | Gnarfoz | Fin, mercilessly crushing URL spammers all over Prat. |
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| 01:08.20 | Fin | maybe I should call myself Fing! |
| 01:08.25 | Fin | Fing the Merciless |
| 01:09.18 | Fin | Terror of all that behold my evil visage |
| 01:10.30 | WobWork | Flash! |
| 01:10.32 | WobWork | Aaaaahhhhh |
| 01:10.38 | WobWork | saviour of the universe! |
| 01:11.50 | Fin | he's not gonna saaaveeveryoneofyas? |
| 01:13.25 | NeoTron | question: does Fin ever make any sense? at all? |
| 01:13.34 | Fin | hey! |
| 01:13.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. |
| 01:13.42 | NightHawkTheSane | sometimes. |
| 01:13.53 | NeoTron | kind of like there's sometimes an eclipse? |
| 01:13.55 | NightHawkTheSane | if you're drunk |
| 01:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | during an eclipse |
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| 01:14.06 | NightHawkTheSane | while standing on your head |
| 01:15.36 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:21.15 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63497 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: Solarian: Remove the sync handler. |
| 01:24.43 | Arrowmaster | Fin: did you just run prat through something to remove all lines with that link on it? |
| 01:26.09 | WobWork | http://flickr.com/photos/anotherthessalian/2305674047/in/pool-songchart |
| 01:29.07 | kenlyric | I approve |
| 01:29.34 | Fin | Arrowmaster: no |
| 01:30.25 | Arrowmaster | was wondering since you managed to stipe all trailing whitespace too |
| 01:30.33 | Arrowmaster | strip |
| 01:30.40 | Fin | that's just a setting in SciTE |
| 01:30.55 | Diao | wtf |
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| 01:33.36 | Thorgard | Triling whitespaces are the devil. |
| 01:33.51 | Thorgard | s/Tril/Trail/ |
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| 01:42.15 | Diao | wow wtf pitbull broke |
| 01:42.21 | Diao | bars and stuff weren't updating properly |
| 01:42.25 | Diao | :\ |
| 01:42.34 | Diao | not good for arena |
| 01:43.17 | Ellipsis | Diao: oh? |
| 01:43.32 | Diao | yeah first time it happened |
| 01:43.34 | Diao | not sure how to reproduce it |
| 01:43.40 | Diao | but i zoned into arena, frames didn't update |
| 01:43.45 | Ellipsis | that's very strange |
| 01:43.50 | Diao | when i buffed the buff frames didn't appear |
| 01:43.58 | Diao | the health/mana values updated properly but not the bars themselves |
| 01:44.17 | Ellipsis | hmmmmm |
| 01:44.24 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: nub :> |
| 01:44.46 | Diao | luckily i was on my alt so i don't care much about the points on that team |
| 01:44.53 | Pkekyo|edu | meh...how do one properly tie a shemag? >.< |
| 01:44.55 | Diao | but also, party frames didn't appear til midway through the fight |
| 01:45.19 | ckknight | Diao: any errors? |
| 01:45.20 | Estil | that would suck to happen when we were on warr+druid |
| 01:45.32 | Diao | yeah i got flooded with the combatfader thing |
| 01:45.34 | Diao | should i just disable it? |
| 01:45.47 | Diao | first time i've seen that error in months |
| 01:45.57 | ckknight | yes |
| 01:46.11 | Ellipsis | pastey one of them if you can |
| 01:47.19 | Diao | reloaded my ui after the game where it occurred and it fixed itself |
| 01:47.24 | Diao | i'll pastey it if it happens again |
| 01:47.54 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 01:48.00 | Ellipsis | if you use bugsack you can view last session's errors btw |
| 01:48.03 | Gnarfoz | buggrabber should have still have it, if you've got an actual error message? |
| 01:48.11 | Gnarfoz | ^--- what she said |
| 01:48.17 | Ellipsis | the first error from that session would be very helpful |
| 01:48.25 | Diao | oh |
| 01:48.26 | Diao | right |
| 01:48.35 | Diao | uh |
| 01:48.38 | Diao | let me open my buggrabber lua |
| 01:48.59 | Ellipsis | you can right click the icon and go to show sack -> last session |
| 01:49.01 | Ellipsis | much easier :P |
| 01:49.02 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what kind of results this poll on my guild's forums will have come thursday... |
| 01:49.16 | Diao | ah |
| 01:49.17 | Diao | there it is |
| 01:49.36 | Gnarfoz | "do you really want to keep doing SSC/TK on thursdays? we could farm 4/5 and 4/9 t6 content. yes/no" |
| 01:49.41 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/83316 |
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| 01:49.57 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 01:50.17 | Ellipsis | soooooooo I'll just add combatfader to my list of modules to fix >_> |
| 01:50.26 | [Endeavour] | Is there any tutorial for making clickable chat links? |
| 01:50.41 | Diao | got it disabled for now |
| 01:51.31 | Ellipsis | yeah, let us know if you have problems with the frames updating when it's disabled |
| 01:51.31 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63498 10/tags/DogTag-1.0/: DogTag-1.0: create tag dir |
| 01:51.57 | Diao | well this is the first time i've ever seen it happen in like months of pitbull |
| 01:53.58 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63499 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: Fix proximity hiding |
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| 01:54.36 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63500 10/tags/DogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0.toc LICENSE.txt embeds.xml): Tag DogTag-1.0 |
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| 01:57.02 | CIA-9 | 03stan 07DogTag-1.0 * r63501 10DogTag-1.0/: Created folder remotely |
| 01:58.45 | CIA-9 | 03stan 07DogTag-1.0 * r63502 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: add file |
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| 02:02.40 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63503 10DogTag-1.0/: Removed file/folder |
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| 02:04.13 | kenlyric | I don't understand this process |
| 02:04.21 | kenlyric | is something happening to dogtag? |
| 02:04.23 | Cryect | nor I |
| 02:04.30 | Cryect | thats what I was wonderin |
| 02:04.32 | Cryect | g |
| 02:04.37 | Pkekyo|edu | it's a few degrees below outside... (celcius) |
| 02:04.38 | Pkekyo|edu | would going out in the cold help me stay awake, or would I just fall asleep in the snow? |
| 02:05.28 | Stanzilla | Cryect: it's just that everybody should be using -2.0 by now |
| 02:05.36 | Cryect | ah |
| 02:05.45 | Thorgard | Bah. |
| 02:05.54 | Thorgard | Capping's timers are WAY off now. :o |
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| 02:06.10 | Pkekyo|edu | noone know if going outside would help? :< |
| 02:06.16 | Thorgard | "Horde: Dun Baldar South Bunker - 239:14 remaining" |
| 02:06.21 | kebinusan | anyone know a good mod for healing assignments? |
| 02:06.43 | Pkekyo|edu | kebinusan: may I suggest ventrilo or raid chat? :> |
| 02:06.46 | kebinusan | perhaps somethign to remember them per boss |
| 02:06.54 | kebinusan | yeah, Im looking for something slightly more lazy |
| 02:07.06 | kebinusan | to keep track of assignments |
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| 02:07.20 | NivFreak | was tide walker the fight that everyone likes to have grid status indicators for? |
| 02:07.25 | NivFreak | er, debuff indicators |
| 02:07.38 | Cryect | how many addons use dogtag I wonder |
| 02:07.41 | kebinusan | quite a few fights they are handy for |
| 02:07.56 | kebinusan | GridRaidDebuffs or w/e is nice though cause you can see who is graved pretty easily |
| 02:08.06 | Pkekyo|edu | I hate stuff like that... "we have a simple solution that works perfectly fine allready, but we can't be arsed to use it, we need something even simpler" >.< |
| 02:08.22 | NivFreak | kebinusan: yea |
| 02:08.35 | Cryect | fish is so damn slow! |
| 02:08.49 | NivFreak | I'm trying to convince one of our healers to use grid/clique instead of healbot |
| 02:08.56 | kebinusan | its nto that simple when you cant find someone who wants the job of doign healing assignments for every fight |
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| 02:09.00 | kenlyric | NivFreak: gkick |
| 02:09.07 | NivFreak | and I was using the raid debuff indicators as one of the strong points |
| 02:09.12 | kenlyric | they're too stupid to function if they're still using healbot |
| 02:09.17 | NivFreak | kenlyric: nah, he's a really solid guy |
| 02:09.21 | NivFreak | very bright |
| 02:09.24 | NivFreak | top healer |
| 02:09.31 | kenlyric | hitler was a bright guy too |
| 02:09.35 | kenlyric | sure, he's using healbot |
| 02:09.52 | kenlyric | give him emergency monitor and he'll be PRO |
| 02:09.56 | NivFreak | :P |
| 02:10.01 | NivFreak | you know |
| 02:10.01 | kebinusan | yeah, Ive spent alot of time moving healers and mages from decursive / etc to grid |
| 02:10.07 | NivFreak | I used healbot up until very recently |
| 02:10.09 | kenlyric | but yeah, tell him I made fun of him for not using grid |
| 02:10.14 | NivFreak | because I was healing fine without grid/clique |
| 02:10.19 | kenlyric | that should motivate him. |
| 02:10.22 | Cryect | Something bothers me about LibDogTag-2.0 using almost as many lines of code as Recount |
| 02:10.24 | NivFreak | and it took me about 3 hours to get them set up the way I wanted |
| 02:10.33 | kebinusan | grid + clique its like playing whack a mole |
| 02:10.38 | NivFreak | and btw |
| 02:10.40 | harldephin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMj3PJDxuo |
| 02:10.43 | NivFreak | I still use decursive WITH grid/clique |
| 02:10.47 | NivFreak | I'm just faster with it |
| 02:10.48 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 02:11.01 | Pkekyo|edu | seriously though, if I go outside in the cold - will it be easier to stay awake, or will I just fall asleep in the snow, get a neumonia, slowed heartrate, risk of dying etc? |
| 02:11.06 | kenlyric | kebinusan: do you have mole icons? |
| 02:11.32 | NivFreak | and we have one guy who has been solid using healbot for the last year, but I DREAD getting him to setup grid |
| 02:11.39 | Thorgard | Is totalpackage here? |
| 02:12.00 | kebinusan | kenlyric: hmmm I should! too bad it couldnt hand out tickets I could turnin for prizes! |
| 02:12.13 | Pkekyo|edu | noone knows? I need an answer damnit:( |
| 02:12.41 | kenlyric | we're hoping you'll go outside and test |
| 02:12.46 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|edu: let us know how that goes |
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| 02:14.06 | Pkekyo|edu | NivFreak: not gonna do it unless I get a definite answer tbh...going to london in a week, not gonna jeapordize that just to try out one of my wacky theories :P |
| 02:14.40 | NivFreak | being active will keep you awake |
| 02:14.55 | NivFreak | going outside means you'll be more active likely |
| 02:15.03 | NivFreak | if you plan to just go lay in the snow naked |
| 02:15.08 | NivFreak | then you're probably going to have issues |
| 02:15.27 | Pkekyo|edu | NivFreak: nah, the reason I'm awake is that I've got schoolwork to do, and the reason I ask is that I'm having a hard time staying awake |
| 02:15.38 | Thorgard | Pkekyo|edu, if you go outside you'll stay awake.. however when you come back inside you'll crash. ;P |
| 02:16.03 | Pkekyo|edu | Thorgard: no need to come back inside...I has wifi xD |
| 02:16.49 | Bifuu | So Mods cant Target a mod for you? |
| 02:17.02 | Bifuu | err mob* |
| 02:17.11 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: not without your input |
| 02:17.26 | Bifuu | well i mean you click on a button and it targets it |
| 02:17.26 | Pkekyo|edu | you can make it target ie <mob name> if <key is pressed>, I guess |
| 02:17.36 | Bifuu | oh cool |
| 02:17.58 | Pkekyo|edu | you don't need an addon for that though |
| 02:18.06 | NivFreak | someone should make a DDR tanking mod for new tanks |
| 02:18.10 | Bifuu | Im new to this coding so il learning what the API can do and cant do still |
| 02:18.48 | Pkekyo|edu | make this macro (using illidan as an example): /target Illidan |
| 02:18.48 | Pkekyo|edu | then you drag the macro to your actionbar, and bind it to a key...simple as |
| 02:19.07 | Pkekyo|edu | and as you can do it in a macro, I'd bet you can do it with an addon too... |
| 02:19.19 | Bifuu | Im making a mod to help out with my guild's Kill order so it throws the mobs in order and you can click the name to target it |
| 02:19.20 | Pkekyo|edu | NivFreak: DDR tanking mod? |
| 02:20.26 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: you can allready do that by using any raidassist addon (CTRA or oRa2 are valid options, oRa2 is the best though), set tank targets, have people click the bloody tank target frame |
| 02:20.39 | Pkekyo|edu | I hate it when people absolutely have to make things harder than they need to :P |
| 02:20.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Bifuu: get non-retarted raiders, use marks, and just call it out. |
| 02:21.04 | Pkekyo|edu | agreed |
| 02:21.14 | Bifuu | heh yea i know, im mainly doing this to learn Lua and such |
| 02:21.32 | Bifuu | my raiders are awesome we dont even use oRA2 and we do fine so im not worried about it |
| 02:21.48 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: I'm guessing though, that the addon could work something like this: if <key> is pressed, then if exists target Mob1 else if exists target Mob2 etc... |
| 02:22.04 | NightHawkTheSane | then why bother wasting time on something you know is worthless? |
| 02:22.13 | Bifuu | to help me learn? |
| 02:22.20 | Pkekyo|edu | once again I agree with NightHawk...this scares me :/ |
| 02:22.23 | Gnarfoz | can't check stuff and do stuff conditionally |
| 02:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | learn by doing something useful. :P |
| 02:22.35 | Gnarfoz | that's what they intended to break in 2.0, and they did |
| 02:22.41 | Pkekyo|edu | Gnarfoz: whyes nuts? :< |
| 02:22.42 | Arrowmaster | you cant target mobs with an addon |
| 02:23.03 | Bifuu | this is basically the same as the good ole Hello World Tutorial for any programming language, not useful but it teaches something |
| 02:23.07 | Pkekyo|edu | I dunno how wow coding works tbh, was just making something up of what you could do with regular coding in any scenario :> |
| 02:23.08 | Gnarfoz | it's their definition of addons playing the game for you :) |
| 02:23.30 | NightHawkTheSane | "hello world" never taught me anything, in any language :P |
| 02:23.42 | Bifuu | it was an example =/ |
| 02:23.46 | Arrowmaster | "hello world" teachs you the languages print command |
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| 02:23.57 | Pkekyo|edu | well, I once was taught what "hello world" is in french...other than that? noes... |
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| 02:24.30 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: Prototype: Add new proposed API, :OptionBar(key, length, icon, color, |
| 02:24.30 | CIA-9 | locale, ...) where key is the name of the boss option to check (aka |
| 02:24.30 | CIA-9 | self.db.profile[key]) and also used to look up 'key.."_bar"' in the provided |
| 02:24.30 | CIA-9 | 'locale' table, formatted with (...). |
| 02:24.36 | kenlyric | it also teaches you the wrapping that every program has. |
| 02:24.39 | kenlyric | stdio.c etc |
| 02:24.45 | kenlyric | .c doesn't seem right |
| 02:24.46 | MrUseful | Invalid Realmname, please check |
| 02:24.53 | NightHawkTheSane | .h |
| 02:24.59 | kenlyric | thanks |
| 02:25.00 | Bifuu | well fine can anyone give me an idea on a mod to make that can help me learn the API and the lua language? |
| 02:25.02 | kenlyric | stupid rusted brain |
| 02:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Bifuu: if you don't have an idea of a mod to make that you want, why are you bothering to learn it anyway? |
| 02:25.32 | Bifuu | because i like programming? |
| 02:25.36 | Pkekyo|edu | MrUseful a new bot? |
| 02:26.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I like programming too, I just don't bother trying to learn a language unless I have an idea for something I'd like to do in it. |
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| 02:26.27 | Bifuu | I already Program in C# and XNA so why not learn how to program dealing with a game i love to play? |
| 02:26.34 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: find something you -need- for <any given purpose>, then find out what programming language is applicable, chose the one which is most so, then write the code |
| 02:26.42 | NightHawkTheSane | otherwise i never get anywhere, because i ultimately don't care about what i'm writing to learn the language |
| 02:26.53 | Pkekyo|edu | exactly |
| 02:27.07 | Pkekyo|edu | this is scary, NightHawkTheSane...we haven't been 'on the same page' this long ever before :p |
| 02:27.13 | Bifuu | well its not the same for me =P |
| 02:27.15 | Pkekyo|edu | hai Ellipsis |
| 02:27.23 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: you're weird then :< |
| 02:27.29 | Bifuu | i must be |
| 02:27.34 | Pkekyo|edu | :D |
| 02:27.49 | WobWork | Bifuu: www.wowwiki.com has the API for WoW |
| 02:27.57 | Pkekyo|edu | *reassumes writing conspiracy theories for his history project* |
| 02:28.00 | Bifuu | yes im aware of that |
| 02:28.02 | WobWork | and www.lua.org/pil/ has a good book on learning lua |
| 02:28.15 | Bifuu | i just wanna make something =/ |
| 02:28.25 | WobWork | You could look on the forums |
| 02:28.35 | Yssaril | woot http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8238/framebuildqw0.jpg <-- odd shaped buttons :) curve resolution decreased for better visual effect :P |
| 02:28.36 | WobWork | there's a "Addon suggestions" thread |
| 02:28.38 | NightHawkTheSane | you should work on figuring out what to make, first ;) |
| 02:29.12 | Bifuu | WEll i thought i did, just apparently no one here thinks it will be of any use lol |
| 02:29.29 | WobWork | neh? |
| 02:29.45 | WobWork | Most of the suggestions here have been "Find something to make before diving into the code" |
| 02:29.45 | Pkekyo|edu | Yssaril: that's supposed to be buttons? where'd you find that ugly crap? :p |
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| 02:30.19 | Pkekyo|edu | I can't see how that's supposed to be buttons |
| 02:30.22 | Yssaril | Pkekyo|edu: bah with buttons i mean area that will respond to clicks (eventually) |
| 02:30.30 | Pkekyo|edu | ah |
| 02:30.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Bifuu: you yourself said that idea wasn't particularly useful to you. :P |
| 02:30.55 | Pkekyo|edu | looks like the speedometer from a commadore 64 racing game :p |
| 02:31.03 | Bifuu | Might be to someone else |
| 02:31.17 | Yssaril | Pkekyo|edu: yar aint it awesome |
| 02:31.30 | Bifuu | Plus i was defending my guildies on how people jumped to thinking they couldnt sustain a kill order |
| 02:31.35 | NivFreak | so you can check for debuffs on people in your raid, can you check for debuffs on mobs? |
| 02:31.38 | Pkekyo|edu | Yssaril: even though I usually strongly feel nostalgia...no. |
| 02:31.39 | Bifuu | on thier own |
| 02:31.43 | NivFreak | aka dots on mobs |
| 02:31.44 | WobWork | Bifuu: let me suggest, that if you don't find it particularly interesting, you might have problems maintaining the addon later on =) |
| 02:31.51 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 02:32.04 | Bifuu | I think its a good idea |
| 02:32.12 | WobWork | Then you shouldn't have a problem =) |
| 02:32.26 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: never write addons 'for someone else'...people like me will for ever be bitching for you to make 'just one more', 'just do this one for me plxz0rxz' :p |
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| 02:32.43 | WobWork | "plxz0rxz" |
| 02:32.46 | NightHawkTheSane | NivFreak: i think so, as long as you have a valid unitid for said mob. if the debuff is yours, you can also get the duration. |
| 02:32.50 | WobWork | possibly the worst word in the internet language |
| 02:33.12 | NivFreak | NightHawkTheSane: I was considering making a shadow priest ezmode mod for kicks |
| 02:33.16 | NivFreak | it would look like decursive |
| 02:33.24 | NivFreak | you would have a MUI for each spell |
| 02:33.24 | Arrowmaster | wont work |
| 02:33.30 | NivFreak | it would light up if your dot was down |
| 02:33.33 | NivFreak | you click it, it casts it |
| 02:33.38 | NivFreak | and you click from left to right |
| 02:33.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah wont work |
| 02:33.42 | NivFreak | why not? |
| 02:33.43 | Bifuu | Pkekyo|edu: If i get into the Game industry like i plan to, ill be dealing with that anyways |
| 02:33.55 | Arrowmaster | because you cant edit secure frames in combat |
| 02:34.04 | NivFreak | it wouldn't change what it casted |
| 02:34.11 | NivFreak | only the background color would change |
| 02:34.12 | Arrowmaster | the target? |
| 02:34.15 | NivFreak | just like decursive |
| 02:34.20 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 02:34.23 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: but then you can say 'fuck off, it's not what I get paid for' |
| 02:34.23 | NivFreak | I see the problem :) |
| 02:34.30 | Bifuu | lol |
| 02:34.44 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: right, so you can't change the target, and decursive never does |
| 02:34.48 | NivFreak | damn |
| 02:34.51 | NivFreak | sounded fun :) |
| 02:34.52 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 02:34.56 | Pkekyo|edu | if you intend to make computergames as commision work, I'd say your buisness plans are allready somewhat screwed |
| 02:35.14 | Bifuu | and whys that |
| 02:35.24 | Pkekyo|edu | because it's a shitty buisness model |
| 02:35.27 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: you could still create the indicators, just not actually have them cast spells, correct? |
| 02:35.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:35.45 | Yssaril | Pkekyo|edu: maybe this looks better http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3474/highrezoverlaycl9.jpg on the left is the normal art (way to big fyi) and on the left is the same art but with 3 click zones :) |
| 02:35.45 | NivFreak | DDR spriest |
| 02:36.54 | Pkekyo|edu | make something that will sell to a widely defined demographic, make it well, reap th ebenefits...if you're gonna do games 'on request' by individuals from your demographic, you might as well declare yourself bankrupt right away, you won't ever be able to get proper funding for it, nor is it likely to be even slightly profitable |
| 02:37.32 | Arrowmaster | your likely to make way below minimum wage with that |
| 02:37.35 | Bifuu | Shoot i never plan to be the guy that makes the big decisions like that anyways lol |
| 02:38.13 | Pkekyo|edu | I'm just saying...constantly making stuff on request by randoms will get you nowhere...and it will take you hell of alot work to get to 'nowhere' x) |
| 02:38.33 | Pkekyo|edu | Yssaril: I still don't get the point of them though...granted, the left graphic, looks somewhat...fun? ...I still don't get the point...what the hell is the context? :p |
| 02:38.58 | Bifuu | well really i never planned to make by request, i just asked if anyone had any suggestions on something to make as a learning experience |
| 02:39.18 | Yssaril | Pkekyo|edu: gonna be unitframes type dealy target in the middle ToT on the left and focus on the right |
| 02:39.26 | Bifuu | as an example if i was asked one what to make when learning Game programming i would suggest a Tetris clone |
| 02:39.42 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: write an addon that'll work like an extended friendslist...or something that will make large-scale communication between main and alt guilds done easily |
| 02:40.19 | Arrowmaster | Bifuu: make a tetris clone in wow |
| 02:40.33 | Pkekyo|edu | if it's for a unitframe, I don't like it :P but then again, my taste is somewhat...speshul |
| 02:40.34 | Bifuu | lol i can answer that like someone did to mea earlier: /join channel |
| 02:40.47 | Bifuu | you know what i might make a tetris clone in wow lol |
| 02:40.57 | Pkekyo|edu | Arrowmaster: allready done...I've got it installed, just can't remember what the command to start it up is xD |
| 02:40.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Bifuu: i think its been done |
| 02:41.04 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: rofl why didn't you heal anyone last pull? sry tried to get a new highscore :P |
| 02:41.06 | Bifuu | give me something to do while i spam a button in raids |
| 02:41.07 | WobWork | no |
| 02:41.11 | Bifuu | im sure it has been lol |
| 02:41.12 | WobWork | what we need is a tetrinet game |
| 02:41.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 02:41.18 | WobWork | BATTLE TETRIS |
| 02:41.26 | Arrowmaster | tetrinet ftw |
| 02:41.31 | Pkekyo|edu | sounds like fun |
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| 02:41.43 | Bifuu | well fine ill work on that |
| 02:41.44 | NightHawkTheSane | wow needs more multiplayer minigame addons |
| 02:41.44 | WobWork | Tetrinet was hella fun |
| 02:42.09 | Bifuu | Maybei can just make minigames in wow or something |
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| 02:42.31 | WobWork | Bifuu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TetriNET |
| 02:42.56 | Pkekyo|edu | Bifuu: multiplayer racing game in wow would be too cool :p |
| 02:43.13 | Pkekyo|edu | or chess....I hate going to kara just to have some fun with a chessboard :p |
| 02:43.39 | WobWork | rofl |
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| 02:43.41 | NightHawkTheSane | chess has been done too, i believe |
| 02:43.44 | WobWork | I remember writing a chess game for a MUd |
| 02:43.48 | Pkekyo|edu | MUd? |
| 02:43.49 | WobWork | it was painful |
| 02:43.51 | WobWork | MUD |
| 02:44.02 | WobWork | but only cause I made it 'life sized' |
| 02:44.05 | WobWork | like the kara chess game |
| 02:44.06 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 02:44.16 | NightHawkTheSane | did it actually try to play like chess at all? |
| 02:44.20 | WobWork | I <3 LPC |
| 02:44.27 | WobWork | it was the best MUD coding language -ever- |
| 02:44.35 | WobWork | you could do -so- much with it |
| 02:44.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
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| 02:44.49 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: well, that was up to the players, no? =) |
| 02:44.56 | WobWork | The pieces moved as they were supposed to |
| 02:45.07 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: yeah, thats more or less what i meant, nice :) |
| 02:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i played on one mud, that had a chessboard, but it was basically just more mobs to kill |
| 02:45.25 | WobWork | I even had a huge 'overview' in asciiart =P |
| 02:45.37 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, nice |
| 02:45.42 | WobWork | OO made coding that -so- much easier |
| 02:46.04 | Bifuu | i bet |
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| 02:46.20 | WobWork | after coding in all the LPMuds and stuff |
| 02:46.22 | Bifuu | but yea this Tetrinet seems like a good challenge, ill get to work on it |
| 02:46.23 | WobWork | er... |
| 02:46.28 | WobWork | smaug and stuff |
| 02:46.43 | WobWork | diku =P |
| 02:46.51 | WobWork | LPC was a godsend |
| 02:47.12 | Pkekyo|edu | christ, so bloody hard to stay awake *shrugs* |
| 02:47.35 | WobWork | why are you trying? |
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| 02:48.24 | Gnarfoz | staying awake isn't my problem, it's even too easy. getting stuff done instead of procrastinating is way harder :< |
| 02:48.31 | Bifuu | only thing going to make coding this Tetrinet clone is the fact ive never played it lol |
| 02:48.32 | Pkekyo|edu | got arseloads of schoolwork to do by the morning, WobWork |
| 02:48.46 | WobWork | Bifuu: go play it! =) |
| 02:48.53 | WobWork | Well worth the time spent imo |
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| 03:06.51 | Bifuu | Mode7 is going to be my new favorite lib =P |
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| 03:09.18 | Killmore | mode7 = ? |
| 03:11.15 | Bifuu | uhh it adds support for snes style graphics |
| 03:11.19 | Bifuu | kinda sorta |
| 03:11.54 | Ellipsis | uh, what? |
| 03:11.57 | kenlyric | so we can spin down when we enter combat |
| 03:11.58 | Ellipsis | adds support for them? o.O |
| 03:12.16 | kenlyric | mode seven is basically spinny graphics |
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| 03:12.39 | Bifuu | uhh yea pretty much |
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| 03:17.45 | Arrowmaster | bah illidari council down and im sitting on the fucking waitlist =( |
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| 03:30.16 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63511 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: more tweaks |
| 03:30.19 | Chaud | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gurubashi&n=Corrupt |
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| 03:35.55 | Gnarfoz | !i The Maelstrom's Fury |
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| 03:36.23 | Gnarfoz | whatever, that one is one-handed, shamanes can (as seen in the armory link) dual wield it with another one |
| 03:36.26 | WoWLuaircBot | Gnarfoz: Name: [The Maelstrom's Fury]; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoP; One-Handed Dagger; 37 - 111 dmg; 1.8 delay; 41.27778 dps; +33 Stamina; +21 Intellect; Requires L70; 75 Durability; +22 CritSpellRating; Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 236.; Drops off: High Warlord Naj'entus (Black Temple); |
| 03:36.26 | WoWLuaircBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.50 | Chaud | but do they get the stats? |
| 03:37.12 | Gnarfoz | ? why wouldn't they |
| 03:37.51 | Chaud | an extra 236 spelldmg 0o ? |
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| 03:37.58 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 03:38.17 | Gnarfoz | try counting that guy's spelldmg by hand and see if it adds up if you're really that sceptical ^^ |
| 03:38.32 | Chaud | Too lazy, I'll just log on and ask him =p |
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| 03:39.02 | NeoTron | of course it counts |
| 03:39.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm just saying... why the hell would he wear it if it didn't work :D (because there's no reason it wouldn't) |
| 03:39.23 | Chaud | He wears stuff for show all the time when we are in town =\ |
| 03:39.29 | NeoTron | however with that much points into enhancement why would you ever WANT to wield spell damage weapons? |
| 03:39.29 | Thorgard | :o |
| 03:39.47 | Chaud | He has 0 in enhance? |
| 03:40.01 | Thorgard | How's he wielding two daggers withouth the spec for dual-wielding? |
| 03:40.18 | Thorgard | Armory mess-up? |
| 03:40.22 | NeoTron | Chaud: that is, in fact, impossible |
| 03:40.37 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 03:40.43 | NeoTron | Dual-wield is 31 points into enhancement |
| 03:40.47 | Gnarfoz | respecced afterwards? |
| 03:41.24 | Gnarfoz | I can't get rid of dual wielding as a rogue, but perhaps there's some bugs with it when that ability is granted through a talent? |
| 03:41.36 | NeoTron | wouldn't it automatically unequip the weapon next time you log in? |
| 03:41.45 | Chaud | IDK how he did it =\ |
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| 03:41.47 | Gnarfoz | armory data saves on logout, though |
| 03:41.48 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 03:41.55 | Chaud | he is busy in hyjal ATM, and not answering |
| 03:42.17 | Gnarfoz | bother someone else to inspect him, then :p |
| 03:42.28 | NeoTron | back in the good old days when certain 2h weapons were a shaman talent it defintely didn't let you keep wielding it |
| 03:42.38 | NeoTron | but that of coruse is a different mechanic since it removes the skill |
| 03:44.30 | Chaud | so I added it all up |
| 03:44.34 | Chaud | he isnt getting the stats from it |
| 03:44.42 | Chaud | comes out to 1050 nature damage |
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| 03:47.05 | Gnarfoz | huh? that's what it shows in the armory, Chaud |
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| 03:47.47 | Chaud | yeah |
| 03:47.54 | Chaud | he has 1050 without adding the 2nd dagger |
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| 03:59.04 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63512 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Make :Scan return the ID used to find the boss instead of true, and nil instead of false if not found. |
| 03:59.31 | xyu` | i dont know what's up, we can't defeat archi. this is 2 weeks in a row. can't kill him. he was so easy the last 4 weeks >< |
| 03:59.41 | xyu` | he obviously deep breathes more |
| 03:59.44 | kenlyric | disband |
| 04:02.03 | Arrowmaster | go hide in the hills |
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| 04:03.36 | Cyrez | vhaarr: Ping! |
| 04:03.46 | vhaarr | pong?! |
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| 04:04.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ |
| 04:04.52 | Cyrez | I'm going on a vacation... If something happens to the CIA bot in #wowace-cia, could you voice it for me? <3 |
| 04:05.27 | ckknight | it doesn't auto-voice? |
| 04:05.30 | vhaarr | sure, if I see it |
| 04:05.39 | Cyrez | Thx. :) |
| 04:05.42 | Cyrez | ChanServ can't do it. |
| 04:05.46 | Cyrez | It's b0rked. |
| 04:05.50 | ckknight | okay then |
| 04:05.55 | Cyrez | It's supposed to work but won't. |
| 04:06.02 | Arrowmaster | because the CIA bots dont register to nickserv |
| 04:06.25 | Diao | o: |
| 04:06.28 | Cyrez | Well, that's part of it, but the other method that uses their hostmask doesn't work at all. |
| 04:06.40 | Arrowmaster | probably because its outdated info |
| 04:06.53 | Cyrez | No, that's not it. |
| 04:07.04 | Cyrez | The thing just didn't work when I tried to set it up. |
| 04:07.11 | Gngsk | why is #wowace-cia +m anyway? |
| 04:07.17 | Cyrez | Even tried a few variations. |
| 04:07.28 | Cyrez | So nobody bot the ops and the CIA bot can talk. |
| 04:07.37 | Cyrez | That was the whole reason I created the channel. |
| 04:07.40 | ckknight | but |
| 04:07.44 | Arrowmaster | to annoy me when i get disconnected and reconnect before my ghosts disconnects |
| 04:08.31 | Cyrez | Blame Freenode for that. ._. |
| 04:08.42 | kenlyric | blame IRC for that |
| 04:08.43 | Arrowmaster | thats standard irc |
| 04:08.45 | Ellipsis | set up your client to aut-ghost and change nick before joining then |
| 04:08.56 | Ellipsis | s/aut/auto |
| 04:09.02 | kenlyric | I like when your ghost continues to talk after you come back |
| 04:09.24 | Arrowmaster | lol ive seen that before |
| 04:09.29 | Cyrez | Mine refuses to join the channel if my nick isn't right. |
| 04:09.36 | Cyrez | Then joins when it's fixed. |
| 04:09.48 | Arrowmaster | even the server admins where cracking up when we had like a 1 hour desync on another network |
| 04:12.52 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63513 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Reaver: Cache the target ID and don't call UnitBuff more times than necessary. Also remove an unused localization key. |
| 04:14.19 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63514 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Reaver: Hope we're done with this boss for today. |
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| 04:23.11 | Cyrez | Finally, I fixed ChanServ! |
| 04:23.12 | Cyrez | <3 |
| 04:23.51 | Cyrez | But you devs can keep your ops since you're cool and stuffs. |
| 04:23.54 | Cyrez | ;) |
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| 04:26.23 | cs-cam | uptime |
| 04:26.31 | cs-cam | mt :( |
| 04:26.50 | Cyrez | " /chanserv access #wowace-cia add *!*n=CIA@208.69.182.149 5 " < That's what worked. |
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| 04:30.23 | Arrowmaster | give me voice so i can change me nick in there and ill actually use the channel |
| 04:30.40 | RaydenUni | least productive kara run ever |
| 04:30.45 | RaydenUni | 2.5 hours and we did... chess |
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| 04:31.27 | Chaud | 0o |
| 04:31.39 | RaydenUni | wiped on shade about 3 times and then gave up and did chess |
| 04:31.40 | Cyrez | Arrowmaster: KK, done. ^^ |
| 04:31.46 | RaydenUni | bunch of alts and new chars |
| 04:31.54 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I hate you |
| 04:31.55 | Hobby-home | we just wiped on trash before leo if it makes you feel better :) |
| 04:31.56 | Cyrez | You're special since you put the bot in there. <3 |
| 04:32.18 | Hobby-home | 9 different people broke sheep across 4 pulls, so at least most people are contributing |
| 04:32.47 | Cyrez | Grr, try rejoining. |
| 04:33.37 | Arrowmaster | weee |
| 04:33.56 | RaydenUni | leo? |
| 04:34.08 | RaydenUni | 9 people broke pulls? |
| 04:34.12 | RaydenUni | even one of the healers? |
| 04:34.15 | RaydenUni | or is this a 25 man? |
| 04:34.46 | Hobby-home | 25 |
| 04:34.53 | Hobby-home | ssc |
| 04:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | he said leo, so presumably leotheras, in ssc :P |
| 04:35.12 | RaydenUni | havent' been there |
| 04:35.55 | Hobby-home | don't go with this group tonight |
| 04:36.02 | Hobby-home | i think they're mostly drunk |
| 04:39.23 | Antiarc | Man. Whether or not you like their music, the stuff NIN is doing with their Ghosts release is staggeringly cool. |
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| 04:39.39 | Antiarc | Like, it'd make a fan out of me even if I wasn't a fan. |
| 04:41.42 | kenlyric | Antiarc: well, if you don't like instrumental NIN you might not like it. |
| 04:41.48 | Antiarc | Well, I do |
| 04:41.53 | kenlyric | not that I won't give it a chance, but I have my doubts |
| 04:42.02 | Antiarc | But I'm just head-over-heels in love with the approach they've taken with this. |
| 04:42.11 | kenlyric | I like the noise when it has meaning. |
| 04:42.18 | kenlyric | not 9 minutes of the same beat 27 different ways |
| 04:42.24 | Antiarc | It's amazing to see a high-dollar name embrace the internet as a distribution medium |
| 04:42.51 | Arrowmaster | i want the limited edition deluxe box set of ghosts |
| 04:43.46 | Arrowmaster | ultra deluxe limited edition |
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| 04:44.16 | kenlyric | I could get on board with more stuff like A Warm Place |
| 04:45.03 | Arrowmaster | '2 audio CDs, 1 data DVD of all 36 tracks in multi-track format and a Blu-ray disc featuring the stereo recordings in high-definition 96/24 with a slide show' is one hell of a pack of physical media |
| 04:45.14 | kenlyric | you know, there are a lot of NIN instrumental tracks I like |
| 04:46.09 | kenlyric | I was trying to find an example of one I didn't like and found like 4 I did. |
| 04:46.13 | kenlyric | ~fail kenlyric |
| 04:46.14 | purl | kenlyric: Fail. |
| 04:47.17 | kenlyric | http://www.flickr.com/photos/reliantfc3/218806725/in/set-72157602415249256/ |
| 04:47.21 | kenlyric | errr. |
| 04:47.26 | kenlyric | yeah, not that |
| 04:47.44 | kenlyric | The Perfect Drug (Spacetime Continuum) |
| 04:47.57 | kenlyric | makes me want to eat glass |
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| 04:50.02 | kenlyric | If you're familiar with BitTorrent, you can download Ghosts I, the first of the four volumes, for free, from our official upload at The Pirate Bay. |
| 04:50.07 | NivFreak | hrmm, is there a decent mod to announce mag cube clickers, and put in backup names if people are dead? |
| 04:50.17 | NivFreak | I swear I saw one, once upon a time |
| 04:50.21 | NivFreak | seemed very handy |
| 04:50.27 | kenlyric | official upload at The Pirate Bay |
| 04:50.30 | Arrowmaster | the full 36 tracks are already up on piratebay too |
| 04:50.31 | kenlyric | ok, trent is my hero. |
| 04:50.49 | kenlyric | man, people always got to shit on a good thing. |
| 04:50.51 | kenlyric | cheap fuckers |
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| 04:51.13 | Arrowmaster | "Ghosts I is the first part of the 36 track collection Ghosts I-IV. Undoubtedly you'll be able to find the complete collection on the same torrent network you found this file..." |
| 04:51.15 | NivFreak | magtheridon mod? anyone? :) |
| 04:51.20 | Arrowmaster | from the offical torrents readme |
| 04:52.00 | Arrowmaster | nah kenlyric, the nin servers are overloaded and people that already paided cant even download from there right now |
| 04:52.22 | kenlyric | legitimate |
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| 04:52.42 | kenlyric | it was hard to forgive trent after The Fragile tour |
| 04:52.59 | kenlyric | and the random 10 minute noise jam sessions after every song |
| 04:53.15 | kenlyric | like I was at a creepy Logan's Run version of a Dave Matthews Band concert |
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| 04:58.06 | CIA-9 | 03totalpackage * r63515 10Capping/ (. core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 04:58.06 | CIA-9 | Capping: |
| 04:58.06 | CIA-9 | - time to chat fixed |
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| 05:03.34 | Arrowmaster | fucking hell |
| 05:04.10 | Arrowmaster | their order system doesnt recognize 9 digit zip codes but instead accepts them and strips them down to 6 digits |
| 05:05.12 | Cryect | you mean 5? |
| 05:05.35 | Cryect | unless its the US post office like no really cares about the other 4 |
| 05:05.42 | Arrowmaster | no it cut it to 6 |
| 05:05.49 | Cryect | hah well thats strange |
| 05:06.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah im gona send an email to make sure they check into it and ensure i get it |
| 05:06.53 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 6 digits? |
| 05:06.54 | ckknight | Antiarc: ping |
| 05:06.55 | NightHawkTheSane | what shitty code |
| 05:06.59 | Antiarc | ckknight: pong |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-9 | 03starinnia * r63516 10MobileVault/ (Core.lua Frames.lua): |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-9 | MobileVault: |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-9 | -Fix tooltip error |
| 05:14.11 | CIA-9 | -Fix error when opening the image frame when unguilded |
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| 05:23.30 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63517 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua: |
| 05:23.30 | CIA-9 | cgProfiler - add db.char.gender = 2 for male or 3 for female |
| 05:23.30 | CIA-9 | - add db.char.ratings = "|{rating};{percentage}|...|", there's 24 segments, the segments are listed in the lua and on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating |
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| 05:26.31 | WobWork | four digits are all you need =P |
| 05:27.48 | ckknight | digits? |
| 05:28.04 | ckknight | oh, for zips |
| 05:31.02 | WobWork | why do they call them 'zipcodes'? |
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| 05:31.15 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 05:31.17 | ckknight | wikipedia probably knows |
| 05:31.45 | WobWork | to wikipedia! |
| 05:32.04 | ckknight | ZIP = Zone Improvement Plan |
| 05:32.28 | WobWork | wow |
| 05:32.32 | WobWork | how obscure =P |
| 05:32.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:32.40 | WobWork | "Postcode" I can understand =P |
| 05:33.09 | Ozguli | kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 05:33.35 | ckknight | Ozguli: fall asleep on the keyboard? |
| 05:35.15 | WobWork | that seems to be happening a lot today =P |
| 05:35.17 | CIA-9 | 03starinnia * r63518 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: |
| 05:35.17 | CIA-9 | Prescription: |
| 05:35.17 | CIA-9 | - Added an announce and delay to Rx checks |
| 05:35.17 | CIA-9 | - Delay time is customizable from 0 to 30 seconds |
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| 05:42.05 | ckknight | what's the difference between Defense and Defense Rating? |
| 05:44.35 | Killmore | you need defense rating to make defense |
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| 05:45.53 | NeoTron | defense = defense rating / (level dependant ratio) |
| 05:45.56 | NeoTron | or something |
| 05:46.06 | WobWork | defense rating contributes to defense |
| 05:46.21 | Killmore | at lvl70 you need 14.75 defense rating to make 1 defense |
| 05:46.22 | WobWork | much like hit rating contributes to tohit |
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| 06:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i love void reaver. |
| 06:20.29 | NivFreak | why? |
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| 06:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | because I had 20% healing done. :D |
| 06:21.16 | NightHawkTheSane | (the next healer down had 14%) |
| 06:21.24 | Gngsk | you only love him cause of his doggystyle |
| 06:21.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ... that too. |
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| 06:36.10 | NivFreak | sweet, one of my guldies loaned me his hunter to farm primals for resist gear |
| 06:36.21 | NivFreak | that beats prot farming for sure :) |
| 06:36.57 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dehtv9Cc0vo |
| 06:37.06 | Thrae | NivFreak: Sell all of his items, spam about selling gold, report yourself, then tell your guildie "This is why people shouldn't share sensitive data over the Internet with anonymous people." |
| 06:38.05 | NivFreak | bah, that would be counter productive |
| 06:38.13 | NivFreak | I have about 8 peoples account info |
| 06:38.25 | NivFreak | it's a good thing I'm really careful |
| 06:38.56 | Thrae | Yeah, I think Kaelten fixed that WAU keylogger bug |
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| 06:44.34 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r63519 10DaPortrait/ (DaPortrait.lua modules/Animations.lua): |
| 06:44.34 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 06:44.34 | CIA-9 | - Don't update player/pet/target/focus frames on party change |
| 06:44.34 | CIA-9 | - Fixed death change event |
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| 06:52.19 | CIA-9 | 03noodles * r63520 10PitBull/Aura/Core.lua: |
| 06:52.19 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 06:52.19 | CIA-9 | - zhTW update |
| 07:01.23 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103801097&sid=1 |
| 07:01.27 | Antiarc | We have come full circle. |
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| 07:10.46 | CIA-9 | 03noodles * r63521 10PitBull/ (Aura/Core.lua RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua): |
| 07:10.46 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 07:10.46 | CIA-9 | - zhTW locale check and update |
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| 07:17.30 | mikma | ckknight: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ <- see the "Cartographer" part |
| 07:19.47 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
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| 07:22.13 | Arrowmaster | does that guy even reallize how stupid of a patch that is? needs a hell of a lot more code than that |
| 07:23.01 | Antiarc | QuestHelper is one of the most impressive addons I've ever used, so I dunno :P |
| 07:23.06 | Antiarc | The author strikes me as wicked smart. |
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| 07:23.25 | Arrowmaster | --- if waypoint.ShowOnMap and self.db.profile.minimapShow then |
| 07:23.25 | Arrowmaster | +++ if waypoint:ShowOnMap() and self.db.profile.minimapShow then |
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| 07:23.47 | Arrowmaster | is that a function normally? |
| 07:23.52 | Arrowmaster | if not stupid patch |
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| 07:24.38 | mikma | function Waypoint:ShowOnMap() return false |
| 07:24.40 | mikma | end |
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| 07:25.09 | Thrae | I don't see "QuestHelper" on files.wowace.com. |
| 07:25.22 | Arrowmaster | because it isnt |
| 07:25.23 | mikma | Thrae: that's because it's not ace addon |
| 07:25.35 | Thrae | I didn't see it on WoWI either. Curse? |
| 07:25.46 | mikma | <0917> <mikma> ckknight: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ <- see the "Cartographer" part |
| 07:26.16 | omega | man questhelper makes me want to play wow again |
| 07:26.26 | CIA-9 | 03nemes * r63522 10NBuffBars/ (18 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:26.26 | CIA-9 | NBuffBars: |
| 07:26.26 | CIA-9 | - Migrate from Ace2 framework to Rock |
| 07:26.26 | CIA-9 | - Upgrade libraries: |
| 07:26.26 | CIA-9 | -- SharedMedia-1.0 -> 2.0 |
| 07:26.28 | CIA-9 | -- FuBarPlugin-2.0 -> 3.0 |
| 07:26.30 | CIA-9 | -- Babble-Class-2.2 -> 3.0 |
| 07:26.44 | Arrowmaster | ewwww |
| 07:26.54 | Thrae | Ahh, gotcha |
| 07:27.14 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 07:27.16 | Arrowmaster | Waypoint.ShowOnMap = false |
| 07:27.33 | Arrowmaster | function Waypoint:ShowOnMap() return false end |
| 07:28.01 | Antiarc | http://kotaku.com/362913/holy-crap-king-of-fighters-xii-is-100-percent-hand-drawn |
| 07:28.01 | Antiarc | Wow. |
| 07:28.14 | mikma | Thrae: then there's http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8214-1.13.html too, but it's just the database of addon that costs money |
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| 07:30.29 | Thrae | Well I already have Brian Kopp's guide, I just use LH for the coords |
| 07:30.54 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63523 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints - actually call :ShowOnMap() |
| 07:30.56 | Thrae | QuestHelper looks interesting. The author must be flushed with work. |
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| 07:31.24 | Thrae | ckknight: Haha, guess it's popular enough for you to finally patch that. |
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| 07:33.39 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: why'd you do 'Waypoint.ShowOnMap = false' and 'function Waypoint:ShowOnMap() return false end' in Cartographer_Waypoints/WayPoint.lua |
| 07:34.40 | Arrowmaster | inc spam |
| 07:34.41 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\CorpsePoint.lua:11:CorpsePoint.ShowOnMap = true |
| 07:34.41 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\NotePoint.lua:21:NotePoint.ShowOnMap = true |
| 07:34.41 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\NotePoint.lua:108:function NotePoint:ShowOnMap() |
| 07:34.41 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\WayPoint.lua:53:Waypoint.ShowOnMap = false |
| 07:34.42 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\WayPoint.lua:165:function Waypoint:ShowOnMap() |
| 07:34.45 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:737:if waypoint.ShowOnMap and self.db.profile.minimapShow then |
| 07:34.46 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:920:if waypoint.ShowOnMap and self.db.profile.minimapShow then |
| 07:35.40 | Wobin | because it's a base class |
| 07:35.52 | Wobin | and default behaviour is to not show it on the map |
| 07:36.15 | Wobin | as to why it's duplicated? |
| 07:36.16 | Wobin | I dunno =P |
| 07:36.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:36.22 | Wobin | Probably something I missed cleaning up |
| 07:36.31 | Arrowmaster | which should it be called as |
| 07:36.38 | Arrowmaster | might want to look into that |
| 07:36.48 | Wobin | I've kinda stopped all support on that =P |
| 07:37.42 | Wobin | Also, there shouldn't ever be an instance of WayPoint |
| 07:37.46 | Arrowmaster | i think corpsepoint just got broken |
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| 07:37.56 | Wobin | since only corpse/note inherit from it |
| 07:38.22 | Arrowmaster | corpsepoint only does 'CorpsePoint.ShowOnMap = true' so inc errors from that last change |
| 07:39.05 | Wobin | I haven't edited anything in waypoints for a very very very long time now |
| 07:39.26 | Wobin | So I leave it to ck to fix, if he's working around the area |
| 07:41.10 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 07:41.46 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: you just noticed that? :P |
| 07:41.49 | Arrowmaster | 'if waypoint.ShowOnMap and self.db.profile.minimapShow then' is also in 2 places in Waypoints.lua you only changed one |
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| 07:42.06 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: noticed what? |
| 07:42.45 | Ellipsis | that those were all defined once as booleans and once as functions |
| 07:42.47 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63524 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints - make the ShowOnMap check safer |
| 07:42.53 | ckknight_ | in any event, fixed |
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| 07:43.55 | Elsia | morning |
| 07:44.29 | Elsia | does one have to embed libstub separately when embedding ace3? |
| 07:44.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:45.10 | Elsia | thanks |
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| 07:47.37 | Orionshock_ | Elsia: one dosn't embeed libstub, one just includes it |
| 07:48.15 | Arrowmaster | you external it and put it in your embeds.xml if your just making an addon |
| 07:48.24 | Elsia | basically what happens is the someone reported a attempt to index global 'LibStub' (a nil value) for CallbackHandler-1.0 and it doesn't include its own libstub |
| 07:48.37 | Orionshock_ | .. well ya, toc file iirc was prefered if it was an embedable lib |
| 07:48.54 | Arrowmaster | if its a lib you include a direct copy of it and put it in the toc |
| 07:49.11 | Elsia | it's not a lib |
| 07:49.17 | Arrowmaster | i know |
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| 07:58.09 | Elkano | Elsia, you are using LSM-3.0, aren't you? |
| 07:58.39 | Elsia | yes |
| 07:58.46 | Elkano | any problems? |
| 07:59.26 | Elsia | not really no, well except that delayed loading issue, if people still have older data files |
| 07:59.46 | Elsia | but I just tell them to get sharedmedia-3.0 and it's resolved |
| 07:59.52 | Elkano | hmmm? can you explain that? |
| 08:00.01 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: got a suggestion for LSM-3.0, in the :Register() test to make sure textures and fonts actually exist before registering them |
| 08:00.30 | Elsia | well I have to optdep the data directory, to make sure it's loaded before the addon |
| 08:00.35 | Elkano | Arrowmaster: how? |
| 08:00.58 | Elsia | optdep is SM-3.0, but if people use say SM-2.0 and LSM-3.0 grabs it, it often comes after it's loaded because SM-2.0 isn't an optdep |
| 08:01.00 | Elkano | Elsia: shouldn't matter if you correctly registered to the callbacks |
| 08:01.24 | Elsia | guess I should do that then ;) |
| 08:01.24 | Elkano | and LSM-3.0 doesn't grab from the older versions |
| 08:01.32 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: check the return for texture:SetTexture(...) and fontobject:SetFont(...) i think |
| 08:02.13 | Elsia | elk: got pastey for registering callbacks? |
| 08:02.40 | Arrowmaster | hmm ill go hack at SharedMedia so we dont have all this SM, SM-2.0, SM-3.0 crap |
| 08:03.08 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, I intended to do that myself ^^ |
| 08:03.23 | Arrowmaster | how were you planing to do it? |
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| 08:04.39 | CIA-9 | 03ggcall * r63525 10CastYeller/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 08:04.39 | CIA-9 | CastYeller: |
| 08:04.39 | CIA-9 | --add zhCN file |
| 08:05.12 | Arrowmaster | i had an idea that would get rid of all this load order crap |
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| 08:05.42 | Elkano | well, one SharedMedia addon using LSM-3.0 and if the older libs exist in memory it will exchange data |
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| 08:06.21 | nevcairiel | just create _one_ SharedMedia addon that optionally works with all SML/LSM libs |
| 08:06.58 | Ellipsis | I just wish addons could agree on which version of the lib they needed, since I end up stuck with two of them anyway... |
| 08:07.50 | Arrowmaster | i was going to save all the SharedMedia:Register() calls in a table and have the function register it with LSM-3.0 LSM-2.0, SML-1.0, and Surfaces and then on ADDON_LOADED check if any of those just got loaded and ifso replay the table to that addons register func |
| 08:08.19 | nevcairiel | i think you can screw surfaces by now =P |
| 08:08.24 | Elkano | Elsia: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibSharedMedia-3.0/Elkano/LibSharedMedia-3.0%20tests/LibSharedMedia-3.0%20tests.lua |
| 08:08.41 | Elkano | should give you a clue about what the callbacks return :) |
| 08:09.03 | NightHawkTheSane | some days, i think we're the only guild who tanks capernian with a hunter. >.> |
| 08:09.10 | Elsia | elk: thanks |
| 08:09.20 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: you are |
| 08:09.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, we actually use a hunter and lock fighting for agro, but whatever |
| 08:09.45 | nevcairiel | why even consider a hunter? |
| 08:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | good ranged threat, lots of hp |
| 08:10.10 | nevcairiel | if a hunter can do it, any range class can .. warlocks have +healing and a shitton of HP |
| 08:10.15 | nevcairiel | +aggro skills |
| 08:10.39 | Elsia | elk: what does each callback do? registered and setglobal? |
| 08:11.02 | Arrowmaster | registered means a new item was registered |
| 08:11.14 | Elkano | registered fires if new media is registered, setglobal is fired if a global override for a mediatype is set/cleared |
| 08:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: yeah, i'm not saying other ranged classes couldnt :P we just happen to use a hunter "off" tank |
| 08:11.21 | Arrowmaster | setglobal means the global override was changed |
| 08:11.24 | nevcairiel | one healer can heal the warlock alone in p3, dunno if thats possible with a hunter without the healing buff a warlock has |
| 08:11.47 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: no callback for changing the defaults? |
| 08:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i'm talking p1.. |
| 08:11.54 | nevcairiel | (I really havent been to kaelthas lately, not sure how much he was nerfed :P) |
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| 08:12.18 | NightHawkTheSane | we obviously have a lock for p3 |
| 08:12.42 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63526 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 08:12.42 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 08:12.43 | CIA-9 | - Repair: added option to repair from guild bank funds when possible |
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| 08:13.40 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, defaults can't be changed, only set once |
| 08:13.50 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 08:13.55 | nevcairiel | not changed? |
| 08:14.03 | nevcairiel | i have to /rl when i configure a different default? |
| 08:14.08 | nevcairiel | what a design flaw |
| 08:14.38 | Elkano | defaults aren't intended to be changed |
| 08:15.08 | nevcairiel | why not? :) |
| 08:18.32 | Wobin | well then they're not default then? |
| 08:18.34 | Elkano | default is intended as a fallback if the requested media isn't available. default values should point to files included in the original client (for official mediatypes at least) |
| 08:21.17 | breser | nevcairiel: They removed a bunch of health from the adds and the weapons. |
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| 08:33.22 | Elsia | hmm what exactly is the use for these callbacks, why can't I just check for the data to be loaded and be done? |
| 08:33.31 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 08:33.45 | Arrowmaster | for when the data doesnt exist the first time you check |
| 08:33.57 | Arrowmaster | the exact problem youve been having |
| 08:34.30 | Elsia | how do I know that the data will arrive? |
| 08:34.49 | Elsia | i.e. what guarantees that the callback will fire |
| 08:34.51 | nevcairiel | you dont |
| 08:35.06 | nevcairiel | if the addon providing that one texture is LoD, it may load very late |
| 08:35.07 | Lemming2K | where can i get the interface resource files for 2.4? |
| 08:35.15 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 08:35.23 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 08:35.23 | nevcairiel | install PTR and run that |
| 08:35.35 | nevcairiel | it'll extract stuff from the 2.4 PTR too |
| 08:35.44 | Lemming2K | k thx |
| 08:36.00 | Elsia | here is what I'm wondering. some random addon X provides on media, people use it, then they uninstall X. I sit waiting for the callback to provide me that data |
| 08:36.22 | Arrowmaster | it never will |
| 08:36.23 | Ellipsis | so default to something else |
| 08:36.32 | Ellipsis | if/when the callback occurs, switch textures to the intended one |
| 08:36.48 | Elsia | hmm alright |
| 08:38.11 | Arrowmaster | basicly just fetch your statusbar name or whatever thats stored in your SV on load |
| 08:38.45 | Arrowmaster | then when the callback is fired if arg2 is "statusbar" and arg3 is the one in your SV do fetch again |
| 08:43.14 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63527 10Mapster/Coords.lua: Mapster: small tweak to Coordinates module |
| 08:44.11 | Elsia | clad: too much information ;) |
| 08:46.22 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r63528 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhCN.lua: |
| 08:46.22 | CIA-9 | Quartz: |
| 08:46.22 | CIA-9 | - update zhCN locale |
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| 08:47.25 | Elkano | Elsia: that's exactly what it does. it defaults to the Blizzard texture if there is no texture with the provided handle available. And if it becomes available later you'll have to update your display in order to fetch the newly available texture. same if an override is set: you should update the display |
| 08:48.22 | piotrb | question about dogtag .. i'm trying to chain things .. like .. [RepReaction:RepColor(Faction)] (this is in cowtip .. so Faction should return the toltip's faction name) .. |
| 08:48.47 | piotrb | or even [RepReaction(Faction)] |
| 08:48.53 | piotrb | either way its not working |
| 08:48.56 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r136 10/trunk/TinyTipBasic/TinyTipBasic.lua: TinyTipBasic: Fix to Internal/External code. Now it should load within TinyTip, even if you don't have it external. |
| 08:49.11 | Ellipsis | piotrb: you need to put Faction in brackets |
| 08:49.27 | piotrb | in []? |
| 08:49.32 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 08:49.42 | piotrb | cool .. knew I was missing something simple =) |
| 08:49.50 | Ellipsis | if you just do RepReaction(Faction) it will act like you're asking what your rep with "Faction" is :P |
| 08:50.01 | Ellipsis | rather than evaluating the tag and checking your rep with "Exodar" or whatever |
| 08:50.11 | Elsia | whats the first argument to sml.registercallback()? |
| 08:50.41 | Arrowmaster | the name |
| 08:50.51 | Elsia | of what? |
| 08:50.54 | piotrb | Ellipsis: yup .. I figured as much .. just didnt know how to kick it into evaluation mode again |
| 08:50.57 | Arrowmaster | the callback |
| 08:51.30 | Elsia | what's the third then? |
| 08:52.16 | Arrowmaster | oh wait its self |
| 08:52.18 | Arrowmaster | library.RegisterEvent(myTable, "eventName"[, method[, arg]]) |
| 08:52.26 | Elsia | ok that makes sense, thanks |
| 08:52.40 | Elkano | the first is either your addon object if you want to call a member function by name or a handle if you want to call a function by passing the function value |
| 08:52.56 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r137 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Fix to Internal/External code. Now it should load within TinyTip, even if you don't have it external. |
| 08:52.56 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r138 10/trunk/TinyTipTargets/TinyTipTargets.lua: TinyTipTargets: Fix to Internal/External code. Now it should load within TinyTip, even if you don't have it external. |
| 08:53.03 | Elkano | the third is the function (string or function) |
| 08:55.04 | Elsia | so this should do it: http://ace.pastey.net/83323 |
| 08:55.37 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r63529 10TinyTipBasic/ (StandAloneConfig.lua TinyTipBasic.lua): TinyTipBasic: New variables in StandAloneConfig.lua. Also fixed internal/external loading code so that TinyTip by itself will load its own modules properly. |
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| 08:56.06 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r63530 10TinyTipTargets/ (StandAloneConfig.lua TinyTipTargets.lua): TinyTipTargets: New variables in StandAloneConfig.lua. Also fixed internal/external loading code so that TinyTip by itself will load its own modules properly. |
| 08:56.45 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r63531 10TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Fixed internal/external loading code so that TinyTip by itself will load its own modules properly. |
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| 09:05.39 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63532 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: some tweaks to OnUpdate handler |
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| 09:09.06 | Elkano | Elsia, no |
| 09:09.44 | Elsia | elk: shouldn't LSM-3.0's lib.xml contain it's deps i.e. CallbackHandler-1.0? |
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| 09:10.05 | Arrowmaster | not if CBH is an external |
| 09:10.38 | Elsia | basically I get an error that libsharedmedia-3.0 can't find callbackhandler-1.0 |
| 09:10.54 | Arrowmaster | are you embeding it? |
| 09:11.03 | Ellipsis | you need to embed callbackhandler then |
| 09:11.14 | Ellipsis | embeddable libs aren't supposed to embed other libs |
| 09:11.28 | Ellipsis | addons that embed them are supposed to know what they need and provide it accordingly |
| 09:11.33 | Elsia | I'm embedding it already |
| 09:11.44 | Ellipsis | check your load order, make sure CBH is before LSM |
| 09:11.47 | Arrowmaster | are you embeding it before LSM-3? |
| 09:12.15 | Elsia | libstub and cbh are first and second in load order |
| 09:12.19 | Elsia | and before lsm |
| 09:12.32 | Elsia | i can pastey the xml if you want |
| 09:12.33 | Elkano | Elsia: try http://ace.pastey.net/83324 |
| 09:13.12 | Elkano | Elsia: addons using libs using LibStub/CBH have to include these two themself |
| 09:13.14 | Elsia | elk: thanks |
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| 09:13.27 | Elsia | elk: I do that, still getting an error somehow |
| 09:13.32 | Elkano | hmmm... |
| 09:13.47 | Elsia | oh sec |
| 09:14.10 | Elsia | let me pastey my embed.xml |
| 09:14.26 | Arrowmaster | i bet your doing script instead of include |
| 09:14.47 | Elsia | no I include everything that offers a lib.xml |
| 09:15.05 | Arrowmaster | are you including CBH's xml? |
| 09:15.09 | Arrowmaster | its not lib.xml |
| 09:16.16 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63533 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: fix bug |
| 09:16.34 | Elsia | bah... gief consistency |
| 09:16.53 | Elsia | hehe |
| 09:17.04 | Elsia | well actually I do :P |
| 09:17.10 | Elsia | http://ace.pastey.net/83325 |
| 09:17.42 | [Ammo] | haha blizzard simply deleted all the lifetap threads from the forums |
| 09:17.43 | [Ammo] | way to go :) |
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| 09:18.03 | Elsia | maybe they hired kaubel as CM |
| 09:18.16 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 09:18.28 | [Ammo] | they should have just explained properly why they aree making the change they make |
| 09:18.34 | [Ammo] | instead of asking for feedback |
| 09:18.40 | [Ammo] | that would help a lot more |
| 09:18.49 | [Ammo] | but blizz suck cock at customer support anyway (at least in EU) |
| 09:19.07 | Elsia | well EU has the double problem of actually being removed from any actual feedback |
| 09:19.13 | [Ammo] | you can post all you want, but it's no use anyway, talking to a wall is more effective |
| 09:20.23 | Elkano | Elsia, LSM has a lib.xml, too |
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| 09:21.17 | Elsia | elk: ah thanks, I'll try that |
| 09:23.59 | Elsia | still the same problem |
| 09:24.33 | Elsia | actually lib.xml of LSM doesn't do anything but the include I had before so no surprise |
| 09:26.54 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63534 10Bartender3/Button.lua: Bartender3: some tweaks to OnUpdate schedule |
| 09:27.03 | Elsia | hmm actually, it seems to be a problem with sharedmedia-3.0 not including CHB in it's embeds.xml |
| 09:27.22 | Elsia | its* |
| 09:29.14 | Elkano | so not my or your fault ^^ |
| 09:29.40 | Elsia | shall I fix it? |
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| 09:35.58 | ThePooBurner | anyone awake? |
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| 09:36.01 | Elsia | no |
| 09:36.08 | Ellipsis | no, but most of us are pretty good sleep-typers anyway |
| 09:36.24 | ThePooBurner | Excelent! |
| 09:37.05 | ThePooBurner | So in an effort to try and get my framerates up i am tryign to trim addons where i can, and i ahve a question about the Ace Addons i use |
| 09:37.44 | ThePooBurner | Would installing the libraries as a seperate addon, rather than embeded, help at all with making the addons use less memory and be more CPu efficient? |
| 09:37.50 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:38.13 | ThePooBurner | no to both, or just to one of them? |
| 09:38.17 | Ellipsis | no to both |
| 09:38.26 | ThePooBurner | Good'nough |
| 09:39.23 | ThePooBurner | question 2, do i need both Omen and recount, or should i just use the threat meter in recount and get rid of Omen? |
| 09:39.43 | Ellipsis | they both have the same threat library behind them, so you can just use recount |
| 09:39.56 | Ellipsis | omen is just a different way of presenting the information |
| 09:40.22 | ThePooBurner | Ok, great. Every little bit of CPU time helps. |
| 09:40.51 | ThePooBurner | Is there any particular reason why Baggins uses so much CPU time, and is there a way to make it use less? |
| 09:41.05 | Ellipsis | is it your first addon alphabetically? |
| 09:41.17 | ThePooBurner | no |
| 09:41.21 | ThePooBurner | Atlas is |
| 09:41.25 | Ellipsis | first ace addon, I mean |
| 09:41.44 | Ellipsis | since you're running with embedded libs, the first Ace addon to load hosts all those libraries for every other addon that uses them |
| 09:41.47 | ThePooBurner | I have Atlasloot, but it is currently disabled |
| 09:41.59 | Elsia | hmm so sharedmedia has copies of libsharedmedia-3.0 in it which in turn has libstub and callbackhandler, the it has another copy of libstub outside but no second copy of callbackhandler |
| 09:42.10 | Ellipsis | so if Baggins is your first Ace addon to load, it gets blamed for all the Ace usage |
| 09:42.45 | ThePooBurner | ok, i guess that is why then. And why atlas loot seemed to be the hog before |
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| 09:42.54 | ThePooBurner | which is why i had disabled it |
| 09:42.55 | Ellipsis | also, you may know this already but it can't hurt to mention - if you're having framerate issues make sure you turn off your CPU profiling when you're not actively using it |
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| 09:43.38 | ThePooBurner | it hadn't occured to me how intence that might be till i was reading in a thread about profiling mods earlier tonight |
| 09:43.47 | ThePooBurner | so i will be turning that off next time i play |
| 09:44.03 | Ellipsis | yeah, CPU profiling slows things waaaay down |
| 09:45.07 | ThePooBurner | it will be interesting to see how much my rate goes up with it off. I've tested with just about everything else |
| 09:45.29 | ThePooBurner | turning off Ambient sounds soubled my rate |
| 09:45.34 | ThePooBurner | *doubled |
| 09:46.29 | ThePooBurner | though i'd figure with a good soundcard to handle hardware sound it wouldn't have made that big of a difference |
| 09:47.02 | Elsia | elk: I wonder if libsm-3.0 shouldn't contain its own copies of libstub and cbh and include them in it's lib.xml? |
| 09:48.04 | Ellipsis | Elsia: no. see what I said before about embedded libraries embedding other libraries. |
| 09:48.18 | Ellipsis | addon authors should know the dependencies of the libs they use |
| 09:48.45 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63535 10SharedMedia/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:48.45 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia: |
| 09:48.45 | CIA-9 | -upgraded to elkano's LibSharedMedia-3.0 branch |
| 09:48.45 | CIA-9 | -will also register with other libs if found |
| 09:48.45 | CIA-9 | -now we can only use one addon to register media with LibSharedMedia-3.0, LibSharedMedia-2.0, SharedMedia-1.0, and Surface-1.0! |
| 09:48.47 | CIA-9 | -I totally cheated on the embeds |
| 09:49.12 | Ellipsis | ... Arrowmaster, just what kind of relationship did you have with these embeds in the first place? o.O |
| 09:49.15 | Arrowmaster | on current topic go checkout that |
| 09:49.19 | Kalroth | hot |
| 09:49.49 | Ellipsis | more importantly, what could be so much hotter than embeds that you actually risked the relationship? |
| 09:50.00 | Arrowmaster | srsly go look |
| 09:50.14 | Arrowmaster | only 1 external |
| 09:50.51 | Elsia | alright let me change to sharedmedia on the trunk then |
| 09:51.19 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: why? |
| 09:51.26 | ThePooBurner | OK, well i need to be off. Thanks for the help :) |
| 09:51.36 | Elsia | because sharedmedia-3.0 has borked embeds? |
| 09:51.48 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 09:51.56 | Elsia | i.e. it's missing cbh |
| 09:51.57 | Arrowmaster | if you do your callbacks properly you shouldnt need to optdep SharedMedia |
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| 09:53.01 | Elsia | alright, removing the optdep then |
| 09:53.03 | Ellipsis | someone should remove the other sharedmedias if it's going to just be one addon registering with all the libs |
| 09:53.34 | Arrowmaster | oh i probably should have put a drycode notice in that commit |
| 09:53.45 | Ellipsis | it's confusing enough to users already, having the "correct" addon be the one with the lowest version number is even worse |
| 09:54.00 | NeoTron | I think for my next commit I'll say it's totally wetcoded |
| 09:54.04 | nevcairiel | it doesnt have any version number =P |
| 09:54.12 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 09:54.20 | Ellipsis | how many people use FuBar2 because they think it's a new version of FuBar? |
| 09:54.25 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: LIES the toc says 3.0 |
| 09:54.35 | Elsia | wetcoded but totally cheated on embeds :P |
| 09:54.50 | Ellipsis | my code gets wet when I'm cheating on my embeds, too |
| 09:54.52 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: we originally named it FuBarAce .. but someone didnt like that .. so there you have 2 :P |
| 09:55.04 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: that's not the point, it was just an example |
| 09:55.19 | Ellipsis | what I'm SAYING is...people will download sharedmedia-2.0 thinking it's an upgrade |
| 09:55.21 | nevcairiel | doesnt WAU list a version tag or something? |
| 09:55.28 | Ellipsis | and because the posts on the forums lately have been encouraging them to do so |
| 09:55.38 | Ellipsis | because SML was going out of style |
| 09:56.45 | Elsia | is there any need to have 3 data repositories really? just one SharedMedia should be plenty |
| 09:56.54 | Ellipsis | that was kind of my point |
| 09:57.27 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: your SharedMedia has a event handler but never registers for events, or am i that blind? |
| 09:58.20 | Arrowmaster | who wants to do the svn del -m "SharedMedia-2.0: DELETED!"? |
| 09:58.39 | Elsia | arrow: Core line 9: SharedMedia.registry = { "statusbar" = {} } -> SharedMedia.registry = { ["statusbar"] = {} } ? |
| 09:58.52 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63536 10SharedMedia/Core.lua: SharedMedia: its 5am give me a break |
| 09:58.58 | Elsia | nevah |
| 09:59.18 | nevcairiel | plus its 11 am, move to a cooler timezone imho |
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| 09:59.31 | Elsia | CET ftw |
| 09:59.44 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63537 10SharedMedia/Core.lua: SharedMedia: like I said, drycoding at 5am = bad |
| 09:59.50 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:00.38 | Arrowmaster | ok can anybody else find an error? |
| 10:00.49 | Elsia | testing, sec |
| 10:01.15 | nevcairiel | why do you test for LSM3 in the register? you assume its present anyway :) |
| 10:01.39 | Arrowmaster | because if its not doesnt LibStub do error and not assert? |
| 10:01.42 | Elsia | arrow: looks good now |
| 10:01.55 | nevcairiel | LibStub errors if its not present |
| 10:02.02 | Wobin | BALETED |
| 10:02.10 | nevcairiel | unless you provide the true as second argument |
| 10:02.12 | Arrowmaster | and then it would error again every time :Register was called |
| 10:02.24 | Arrowmaster | because the func doesnt exist |
| 10:02.30 | nevcairiel | no it would just quit the file before ever reaching the declaration of register |
| 10:02.41 | nevcairiel | because it would error on the first line =P |
| 10:03.04 | Arrowmaster | meh whatever |
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| 10:03.11 | Arrowmaster | wait thats not true |
| 10:03.11 | nevcairiel | anyway, personally, i would like all 4 libs to be optional |
| 10:03.19 | nevcairiel | and nothing needed |
| 10:03.32 | nevcairiel | right now no addon uses LSM3 |
| 10:03.40 | nevcairiel | and i just need to install it for SM to work ? :P |
| 10:03.55 | Arrowmaster | but i want to use the LSM3 checks to make sure the media is valid |
| 10:04.07 | Arrowmaster | or atleast currently the font check |
| 10:04.16 | nevcairiel | let every lib figure that out on its own |
| 10:04.24 | Arrowmaster | they dont |
| 10:04.42 | Arrowmaster | only LSM3 does it on register |
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| 10:05.30 | nevcairiel | Only data provided inside of SM is registered through SM, cant you just check yourself ? :P |
| 10:05.48 | nevcairiel | besides, SML and LSM-2.0 never checked, and i didnt read big threads about problems |
| 10:05.52 | Kalroth | mmm, SM |
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| 10:06.19 | Arrowmaster | well i like it this way so =O~ |
| 10:06.51 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63538 10Recount/ (. GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc embeds.xml): |
| 10:06.51 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 10:06.51 | CIA-9 | - Fixed embeds again. |
| 10:06.51 | CIA-9 | - Removed optdep to SM3 and added LSM-3.0 callbacks to handle shared media data on the fly. Thanks to Elkano for help setting it up. |
| 10:07.08 | nevcairiel | requiring a lib that is in branches inside a trunk addon that _alot_ of people have, is just plain wrong |
| 10:07.18 | Arrowmaster | i know =D |
| 10:07.46 | nevcairiel | it'll break for anyone that uses disembedded |
| 10:07.53 | nevcairiel | so either you change it, or i will :P |
| 10:07.53 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 10:08.05 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 10:08.11 | Elsia | maybe it's time to move LSM-3.0 to the trunk? |
| 10:08.19 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: quick commit LSM3 to trunk |
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| 10:08.29 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: the way I read that commit message it was to a 2.4 branch of recount |
| 10:08.47 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: read up |
| 10:08.53 | kebinusan | bah |
| 10:08.58 | kebinusan | I'll just take your word for it |
| 10:09.01 | kebinusan | back to lurking |
| 10:10.53 | CIA-9 | 03chexsum * r63539 10KillingSpree_Taunts/: Removed file/folder |
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| 10:13.54 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63544 10SharedMedia/Core.lua: SharedMedia: make it work without LibSharedMedia-3.0 for now to make nevcairiel happy |
| 10:14.12 | chexsum_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.10 | durcyn | something tells me those sounds aren't exactly public domain |
| 10:15.36 | chexsum_ | youd be right |
| 10:15.49 | HIghoS | 9 |
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| 10:16.27 | chexsum_ | i got them from a guy at the pub |
| 10:17.19 | Ellipsis | but...you don't know where they've been! |
| 10:17.31 | Xinhuan | how many weeks has ptr been up? |
| 10:17.33 | Xinhuan | in total |
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| 10:17.54 | chexsum_ | about 3 |
| 10:18.55 | Groktar | Added C:\Documents and Settings |
| 10:19.18 | Groktar | Added C:\Documents and Settings\Groktar\omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah.ogg |
| 10:19.22 | Groktar | pro |
| 10:19.40 | Antiar1 | aoogah is awesome |
| 10:20.07 | Groktar | nothing will ever be enough for idiot warlock |
| 10:20.36 | Groktar | idiot warlock pulls aggro twice on p4 transition on illidan |
| 10:20.57 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63545 10SharedMedia/ (Core.lua Libs/ SharedMedia.toc embeds.xml): |
| 10:20.57 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia: |
| 10:20.57 | CIA-9 | - improve LSM3 checks to not require changes once it goes live (its fully optional now, but will use the validation if present) |
| 10:20.57 | CIA-9 | - add media to LSM3 if its loaded after SharedMedia |
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| 10:21.39 | nevcairiel | what does LSM3 check anyway? |
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| 10:22.32 | Kalroth | <Groktar> idiot warlock pulls aggro twice on p4 transition on illidan <- we had a warlock pull aggro in phase 1 and again in phase 4. We didn't wipe though, thank god. |
| 10:22.47 | Kalroth | I was tanking flames and I did it flawlessy, which I'm not sure I could repeat again ;P |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63546 10SharedMedia/ (Libs/ Libs/LibStub.lua SharedMedia.toc embeds.xml): SharedMedia: include a hardcopy of LibStub so it doesnt fail on a weird disembed setup |
| 10:25.15 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:25.53 | CIA-9 | 03chexsum * r63547 10KillingSpree/ (169 files in 8 dirs): |
| 10:25.53 | CIA-9 | KillingSpree: |
| 10:25.53 | CIA-9 | - Moved all sounds into snds directory |
| 10:28.48 | nevcairiel | i bet that upload took a while |
| 10:29.09 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: right now it checks the current language and if a language flag comes with the Register and depending on the language and flag it wont register |
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| 10:29.38 | voidwalker | quick noob question, i did buyout on an item at the auctions, when will i receive it?? |
| 10:29.45 | Arrowmaster | 1 hour |
| 10:30.05 | voidwalker | uh, from where? |
| 10:30.09 | voidwalker | it just drops in my inventory ? |
| 10:30.13 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:30.16 | nevcairiel | mailbox |
| 10:30.19 | voidwalker | and why do i have to wait 1 hour? |
| 10:30.34 | nevcairiel | if you buy a item, you get it instantly |
| 10:30.39 | nevcairiel | just check the mailbox |
| 10:30.45 | voidwalker | oh ok thanks |
| 10:31.30 | durcyn | the one hour delay is for receiving gold from sales, Arrowmaster, not the purchased item |
| 10:31.39 | chexsum_ | it an take a minute on some servers though |
| 10:31.58 | nevcairiel | that minute passes generally when traveling ah -> mailbox :D |
| 10:32.11 | chexsum_ | usually takes a few mins for me to get gems when i buy a few |
| 10:32.17 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63548 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.toc: SharedMedia: fix .toc, dont need LSM3 twice =P |
| 10:32.40 | Kalroth | Yeah, anyone can see that you need LSM3 three times, duh! |
| 10:32.53 | nevcairiel | but not twice! |
| 10:33.44 | Elsia | gief moah |
| 10:34.10 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63549 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/: LibSharedMedia-3.0: moving to trunk |
| 10:34.15 | Elsia | \o/ |
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| 10:34.23 | RickThunder | heya |
| 10:34.50 | RickThunder | does anyone know how i can configure shaman friend to display purges/shocks to /say channel instead of /group |
| 10:35.04 | RickThunder | i've seen it in a video but there is no option for it in the ui |
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| 10:35.18 | Xinhuan | try editing the source code of the addon |
| 10:35.31 | Xinhuan | look for "PARTY" and change that to "SAY" |
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| 10:35.45 | Xinhuan | it should be inside something that looks like SendChatMessage( ) |
| 10:36.00 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63550 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-3.0: adding the magic keyword |
| 10:36.08 | RickThunder | is it possible to just add say to the options? cuz id really liek to be able to switch between both without editing the source |
| 10:36.48 | Elsia | rick: you want say or report to self only? |
| 10:37.25 | Xinhuan | if the in game options doesn't allow it, then there's little you can do |
| 10:37.31 | Xinhuan | short of asking the author to include such support |
| 10:37.58 | Xinhuan | now i've never heard of such an addon much less the author's name ;p |
| 10:38.11 | Elsia | well I use it and I just want report to self, but that works if you turn reporting to others off |
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| 10:38.39 | Elsia | it's not the most user-friendly addon on the planet, but yeah if you really wanna spam say you'd have to change the code |
| 10:38.56 | Elsia | not sure why anyone would want to spam say though |
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| 10:41.58 | RickThunder | i wanna report to say |
| 10:42.05 | RickThunder | self is np |
| 10:42.20 | Elsia | lets see who maintains shamanfriend |
| 10:42.36 | Elsia | ## Author: Blue Glyph |
| 10:42.45 | RickThunder | there is an option "popup" |
| 10:42.53 | RickThunder | whats that do anyway? i dont see any popup msgs |
| 10:43.09 | Elsia | ## X-eMail: fredrik (at-) eai.se |
| 10:43.39 | Elsia | that addon will break if not maintained through 2.4, it uses parser |
| 10:44.43 | RickThunder | i wonder if there are any similar addons |
| 10:45.28 | RickThunder | the reason for the addon was watershield anyway - back when it only lasts 1 minute. so you dont forget recasting it |
| 10:46.16 | Elsia | not sure if earthshieldtracker also contains a watershield warner |
| 10:46.21 | Elsia | or totemtimers for that matter |
| 10:47.08 | RickThunder | i mean i dont use it for watershield anyway - just for interrupts/purges in arena |
| 10:49.02 | Elsia | I think some SCT-like addons should also show you interrupts & purges, or is the point to spam your group with then? |
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| 10:53.52 | Elsia | ~comfort sylvanaar |
| 10:53.53 | purl | There, there, sylvanaar. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 10:54.50 | sylvanaar_work | Purl: Routing is irritating |
| 10:54.51 | purl | ...but routing is already something else... |
| 10:54.53 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63551 10SharedMedia/ (Core.lua INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt SharedMedia.lua): |
| 10:54.53 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia: |
| 10:54.53 | CIA-9 | - fixed revision overwriting |
| 10:54.53 | CIA-9 | - assign return value for LSM3 request to variable |
| 10:54.53 | CIA-9 | - update MyMedia instructions |
| 10:55.04 | sylvanaar_work | Purl: I don't doubt it |
| 10:55.04 | purl | You don't doubt it? |
| 10:55.15 | sylvanaar_work | Purl: nope |
| 10:55.16 | purl | yes |
| 10:55.21 | RickThunder | Elsia: yeah its about the group |
| 10:55.26 | sylvanaar_work | Purl: You are just as badf |
| 10:55.27 | purl | sylvanaar_work: what are you talking about? |
| 10:55.39 | Elkano | ~literal routing |
| 10:55.40 | purl | "routing" is "the Advanced Routing Howto or the Network Administrators Guide at linuxdoc.org, or Please check out http://www.pmfp.net/router-firewall.sh if you want to get started fast and easily" |
| 10:55.45 | Elsia | ricK: I'd email the author to see if he still maintains it |
| 10:56.01 | winkiller | ~routing |
| 10:56.02 | purl | [routing] the Advanced Routing Howto or the Network Administrators Guide at linuxdoc.org, or Please check out http://www.pmfp.net/router-firewall.sh if you want to get started fast and easily |
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| 10:56.18 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:56.35 | RickThunder | in general options you can select the chat "number" for the output - i just put in say instead of a number now. gonna test it |
| 10:56.37 | RickThunder | but thanks |
| 10:56.52 | Elsia | good luck |
| 10:57.05 | sylvanaar_work | Purl: routing is also (at least in theory) |
| 10:57.05 | purl | okay, sylvanaar_work |
| 10:57.20 | sylvanaar_work | ~routing |
| 10:57.20 | purl | methinks routing is the Advanced Routing Howto or the Network Administrators Guide at linuxdoc.org, or Please check out http://www.pmfp.net/router-firewall.sh if you want to get started fast and easily, or (at least in theory) |
| 10:57.22 | RickThunder | doesnt work, its resetting to 0 if i switch options :( |
| 10:57.46 | sylvanaar_work | meh, should have left out the parens |
| 10:58.13 | RickThunder | its kinda weird since the new version also supports bloodlust notification - for all channels and chats (also say). you just cant chose it for purge grounding shock :/ |
| 10:58.27 | Xinhuan | sigh servers shutting down |
| 10:58.50 | Xinhuan | what will i do tonight!!! |
| 10:59.16 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, you failed ^^ |
| 10:59.36 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 11:00.21 | Arrowmaster | the revision crap and the instructions were my fault ill admit |
| 11:00.21 | Arrowmaster | the other was nevs |
| 11:00.21 | Xinhuan | because elkano said so ;p |
| 11:00.23 | Elkano | LSM-3.0's register returns false if there is already media for a key registered |
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| 11:00.50 | Xinhuan | how's work on the new databroker? |
| 11:01.16 | Elkano | so imagine a load order: addon using LSM-3.0, SM, addon using eg SML |
| 11:01.36 | Arrowmaster | i see no problems =) |
| 11:01.43 | nevcairiel | there is |
| 11:01.50 | Elkano | oh, swap SM and 2nd addon |
| 11:02.02 | nevcairiel | LSM-2.0 and SML will not have all data |
| 11:02.10 | Elkano | if the first addon registered some media from SM to LSM-3.0 it will never be registered to SML |
| 11:03.03 | Arrowmaster | bah fine change it if you want since you made the last commit |
| 11:03.28 | Arrowmaster | and add :SetTexture and :SetFont checking to LSM3's Register |
| 11:03.59 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63552 10SharedMedia/Core.lua: SharedMedia: fix registering if LSM-3.0 loads before SM |
| 11:04.35 | Elsia | hmm current LSM3 trunk commit and SM, I don't get a callback it seems on startup but the bars are loaded correctly |
| 11:04.54 | Elsia | alright let me update |
| 11:05.27 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, but that would load all media which isn't intended |
| 11:06.34 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63553 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: swap to changed icon api |
| 11:07.03 | Elsia | yep getting no callback from lsm-3.0 despite SM loading late, so I do have the statusbar texture problem still |
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| 11:08.23 | RickThunder | cool, adding ["SAY"] = L["Say"] in earthshockmsg,purgemsg and groundmsg functions made it work :) |
| 11:08.48 | RickThunder | got say as an option in the UI now |
| 11:08.49 | Elsia | rick:nice |
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| 11:10.12 | Elkano | Elsia, are you sure that SM loads after your addon? |
| 11:12.03 | Elsia | well I get all bars in my gui selector so they are loaded, but my initial bar setup is default bars because they weren't present when they were drawn |
| 11:12.04 | Elsia | so yeah |
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| 11:12.34 | Elsia | if I clikc the bar in the gui selector they are drawn properly, basically exactly the behavior that I need the callback for |
| 11:13.36 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63555 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: remove paintchips from X-Embeds |
| 11:13.36 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63554 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.toc: LibSharedMedia-3.0: fixed slashes in toc |
| 11:17.33 | Hobby | mmm paintchips, those are tasty |
| 11:18.35 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63556 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ButtonStyle.lua: Bartender4: reuse the DreamLayout frames |
| 11:18.58 | Elsia | elk: requesting Clio getting Interface/Targeting/UI-StatusBar, if i select from GUI later I get Interface/Addons/SharedMedia/statusbar/Clio |
| 11:19.09 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r63557 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: |
| 11:19.09 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: Prototype: |
| 11:19.09 | CIA-9 | - Changed :IfMessage to :NewMessage (name ideas?) Now does what :message does without needing to specify local/global only warning |
| 11:19.09 | CIA-9 | - Changed :WideMessage and :LocalMessage, just use if self.db.profie.* in modules, this API saves you from designating a local/global message in :Message |
| 11:21.12 | ramoz | nevcairiel: is BT4 usuable? |
| 11:21.27 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: what do you mean 'that would load all media which isn't intended'? |
| 11:21.36 | nevcairiel | ramoz: not 100% |
| 11:21.45 | ramoz | ok, ill wait for a "release" |
| 11:22.40 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, if you set the media, the client will load that file; so checking each string on register would result in the client loading each registered media file |
| 11:23.57 | Arrowmaster | i see that as an acceptable cost for not letting invalid media get loaded |
| 11:24.49 | Ellipsis | I don't |
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| 11:25.43 | Elkano | Elsia, could you pastey your code? |
| 11:26.05 | Elsia | sec, trying a possible fix real quick |
| 11:26.25 | Elsia | ah yes, have it |
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| 11:26.45 | Elsia | basically I drew the bars in OnInit, and registered the callbacks in OnEnable. clearly the data loaded inbetween |
| 11:26.56 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 11:27.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 11:27.31 | Elsia | "I" as in whoever initially decided it was necessary to draw the bars in oninit :P |
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| 11:27.47 | Arrowmaster | so now you register oninit? |
| 11:28.08 | Elsia | no I moved the initial drawing to onenable |
| 11:28.21 | Elkano | I do almost all stuff OnEnable in my addons instead of OnInitialize |
| 11:28.42 | Arrowmaster | i think youll still get callbacks while disabled though |
| 11:29.10 | Elsia | not a problem as I draw fresh when I enable |
| 11:29.28 | Arrowmaster | atleast CBH is simple and shouldnt have issues with calling RegisterCallback a few times in a row without an UnregisterCallback |
| 11:30.32 | CIA-9 | 03elkano * r63558 10ElkBuffBars/ (9 files in 4 dirs): ElkBuffBars: now using LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 11:31.25 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63559 10Recount/ (. GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): |
| 11:31.25 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 11:31.25 | CIA-9 | - Fixed init/callback related bug for shared media support. |
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| 11:38.02 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63560 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Bugfix. |
| 11:41.33 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63561 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Revert Funkeh's commit. |
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| 11:43.25 | vhaarr | haste: what's wrong with wow-haste.googlecode.com? :/ |
| 11:43.30 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r63562 10Recount/locales/ (Recount-enUS.lua Recount-koKR.lua): |
| 11:43.30 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 11:43.30 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 11:43.40 | haste | vhaarr: wrong? |
| 11:43.50 | vhaarr | haste: I just time out here trying to connect to it |
| 11:44.01 | haste | then gcode is probably down or something |
| 11:44.07 | ramoz | its white (!) for me |
| 11:44.09 | haste | just use http://ixo.no/cgit/cgit.cgi |
| 11:44.10 | vhaarr | no, the main google code site works |
| 11:44.22 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 11:44.29 | vhaarr | yeah something fishy with gcode |
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| 11:54.00 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63563 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Make If/Locale/Wide message work without using a locale key as well. |
| 11:54.37 | Xinhuan | google is fishy |
| 11:54.45 | Xinhuan | after all, they also have sattelite images of your house :) |
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| 12:00.19 | frop | hello, is GatherMate sending nodes to guildies? |
| 12:00.44 | Orionshock_ | not with out it's _sharing module |
| 12:00.50 | frop | mmmh |
| 12:00.53 | frop | thank you |
| 12:00.57 | Orionshock_ | tho it's mostly not nessisary with the _data module pulling shit from wowhead |
| 12:01.07 | Arrowmaster | it has a _sharing module? |
| 12:01.18 | frop | ...also, it's sharing them to ppl with Gatherer or Cartographer? |
| 12:01.29 | Orionshock_ | prolly not |
| 12:01.47 | frop | i see |
| 12:01.49 | frop | :) |
| 12:01.57 | keiss | yeah the data module is almost complete , so no real need for that |
| 12:02.02 | frop | so, it's a np...i don't need the sharing module |
| 12:02.31 | frop | well keiss my guildies using still Gatherer...and guess not many has a complete "data" table... |
| 12:02.37 | frop | ...was just a curiosity tbh |
| 12:02.57 | keiss | huh ? just get GatherMateData ? |
| 12:03.13 | frop | i'm using it :) |
| 12:03.26 | keiss | well tell *them* to use it |
| 12:03.41 | frop | coupled with routes and Mapster is just great |
| 12:04.01 | Orionshock_ | did tom tom get it's update with a graphical waypoint? |
| 12:04.08 | Xinhuan | not yet Orionshock_ |
| 12:04.13 | Orionshock_ | damn |
| 12:04.14 | Xinhuan | its available on gcode trunk |
| 12:04.18 | Xinhuan | but not wowi yet |
| 12:04.24 | Xinhuan | as its nto fully tested to be working |
| 12:04.58 | Orionshock_ | ...:D |
| 12:05.12 | Orionshock_ | first question that came to mind ... "Does it use Ace3?" |
| 12:05.20 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r63564 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 12:05.20 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 12:05.20 | CIA-9 | - Fixed CC details tracking for new combat log spell semantics. |
| 12:05.23 | Orionshock_ | just the smart ass in me |
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| 12:07.48 | Stanzilla | Elkano: will SharedMedia-2.0 stay in trunk or be removed? |
| 12:08.38 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock_: should change that to "Does it use AceConfig3?" and be completely serious |
| 12:08.41 | Elkano | I have nothing to do with that addon |
| 12:08.58 | Elkano | but it can be considered obsolete I think |
| 12:09.06 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 12:09.23 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976473392&postId=49758573176&sid=1#0 |
| 12:09.27 | Xinhuan | heheh 8 pages on a useless topic |
| 12:10.30 | break19 | Xinhuan: on another game i play occassionally... there's a topic called race to 100... mindless posts just tryin to get to 100 pages |
| 12:10.39 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 12:10.45 | Xinhuan | lets try it |
| 12:10.49 | Xinhuan | "Race to 25" |
| 12:10.51 | break19 | heh |
| 12:11.00 | Xinhuan | and get a record timing |
| 12:11.26 | Orionshock_ | Arrowmaster: humm...id run with that |
| 12:11.41 | break19 | Xinhuan: http://vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/8/16801 |
| 12:12.17 | break19 | up yo 68 right now :P |
| 12:12.23 | break19 | to* |
| 12:12.58 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63565 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (. Core.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 12:12.58 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 12:12.58 | CIA-9 | - added Dark Touched (Grand Warlock Alythess in Sunwell Plateau) |
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| 12:13.17 | Elkano | Elsia: now with wiki page ^^ http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 12:13.29 | Elsia | ~cheer Elkano |
| 12:13.30 | purl | Three cheers for Elkano! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
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| 12:16.02 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63566 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/ (4 files): |
| 12:16.02 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceGUI-3.0 |
| 12:16.02 | CIA-9 | - use blizzard templates for the EditBox and DropDown widget (the dropdown pullout still needs to be adjusted) |
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| 12:23.10 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 12:23.10 | CIA-9 | - And fixed interrupt tracking. The relationship of spell* to extraSpell* is source (active spell) to destination (affected spell) |
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| 12:24.33 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceGUI-3.0 |
| 12:24.34 | CIA-9 | - cleanup dropdown widget |
| 12:26.40 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63570 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc embeds.xml libs/): ClassTimer: now using LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
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| 12:28.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 12:29.57 | sag_ich_nicht | okay Elkano so what is the point of having SharedMedia-2.0 on the SVN now if SharedMedia is all that is needed? |
| 12:32.34 | Elkano | sag_ich_nicht, I only said that I have nothing to do with that addon... |
| 12:32.44 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 12:32.55 | sag_ich_nicht | who the hell made it then |
| 12:33.45 | Ellipsis | if I take credit, will you use the sharp pointy things on me? |
| 12:33.52 | Elkano | someone who wanted sth like SharedMedia for LSM-2.0 (something I'm also not involved in directly) |
| 12:34.11 | Elkano | SharedMedia-2.0 was fail from the beginning |
| 12:34.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: well you DID make a commit, but Funkeh` did the original SVN import so yeah |
| 12:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` you moron! |
| 12:35.20 | Ellipsis | I made a commit because ck told me I had to after I'd done the SharedMedia one |
| 12:36.01 | Elkano | and you belived him? ... |
| 12:36.20 | Ellipsis | *shrug* |
| 12:36.32 | Ellipsis | I only ever recommended users grab SharedMedia to replace the lost PitBull media files |
| 12:36.45 | Ellipsis | I don't see the point of SM-2.0 and would never suggest it |
| 12:37.54 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63571 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: BigWigs: Attumen: Fix up the tank check. |
| 12:38.48 | Elsia | rabbit: any chance for a tear-check at achrimonde? i.e. 15 mins or so before it expires |
| 12:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 12:41.36 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 12:42.23 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63572 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Kalecgos: Fix up the tank/healer checks. |
| 12:43.39 | Xinhuan | "We're considering the possibility of account based or guild based attunements for Wrath of the Lich King." |
| 12:43.40 | Xinhuan | wowowow |
| 12:43.46 | Elkano | is it possible to store a dynamic created frame in Blizzard's layout-cache? |
| 12:43.53 | Xinhuan | Elkano: yes |
| 12:44.18 | Xinhuan | but the layout-cache is only applied just before VARIABLES_LOADED, so if said frame isn't created by then, it will fail to apply |
| 12:44.37 | vhaarr | Elsia: no, because there's no guarantee that the boss module is enabled when you loot the item |
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| 12:44.49 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: yeah there's really no point in either LSM2.0 or 3.0, 1.0 still works fine. |
| 12:44.58 | Elsia | rabbit: k |
| 12:46.09 | Ellipsis | err...I was talking about the addon to provide media files, not the lib itself |
| 12:46.12 | vhaarr | Elsia: but is it supposed to expire? |
| 12:46.19 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: well I'm talking about the lib itself |
| 12:46.24 | Ellipsis | I don't know the workings of the libs well enough to make a judgement on that |
| 12:46.24 | vhaarr | ckk had no right to make a 2.0 |
| 12:46.33 | Elkano | vhaarr, LSM-3.0 is agnostig and doesn't need hacks for foreign locales |
| 12:46.37 | vhaarr | Elkano had no incentive to make a 3.0 except to spite |
| 12:46.47 | Ellipsis | libstubbing it is incentive enough imo |
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| 12:47.07 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: okay, then, so 2.0 works, then -- why make a 3.0? |
| 12:47.09 | Elkano | vhaarr, if ckk wouldn't have made 2.0, 3.0 would be 2.0 |
| 12:47.31 | Ellipsis | vhaarr: I don't know; Elkano says there are technical improvements in his version |
| 12:47.42 | vhaarr | well there isn't |
| 12:47.46 | Elkano | and when he pushed 2.0 to svn my code was already done in most parts |
| 12:47.47 | Ellipsis | *shrug* |
| 12:48.19 | vhaarr | Elkano: so you could have hijacked 2.0 then and just nuked his code, as long as the API remains the same it doesn't matter |
| 12:48.30 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so because you guys are all morons i have to load these libs trice. good job. |
| 12:48.34 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 12:48.41 | vhaarr | fucking 4-5 different libraries for something so simple |
| 12:48.43 | vhaarr | it's a joke |
| 12:48.56 | Elkano | well, vhaarr, his callacks are fubar... |
| 12:49.03 | vhaarr | so FIX it? |
| 12:49.08 | vhaarr | instead of making a new lib? |
| 12:49.16 | vhaarr | ckk made a mistake by posting 2.0, we all know that |
| 12:49.21 | Elkano | it would break API... |
| 12:49.37 | Elsia | it sounds like the right thing is to nuke 2.0 and keep 3.0, problem solved no? |
| 12:49.46 | Ellipsis | [4:48:27 am] <@vhaarr> fucking 4-5 different libraries for something so simple << I have to agree...when it all comes down to just passing strings back and forth, this is kind of silly |
| 12:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:48] <@vhaarr> fucking 4-5 different libraries for something so simple <--so write a babble-2.2/3.0 compatibility layer while your at it |
| 12:50.07 | sag_ich_nicht | because the one on SVN doesn't work :P |
| 12:50.10 | Ellipsis | no sag_ich_nicht, just get the babbles that are USEFUL ported over |
| 12:50.18 | vhaarr | babble-2.2 is a monster |
| 12:50.20 | Ellipsis | nuke the old ones and let authors do their thing |
| 12:50.21 | nevcairiel | all useful babbles got ported |
| 12:50.30 | Ellipsis | um |
| 12:50.37 | Ellipsis | 2 of the babbles that got ported are virtually obsolete come 2.4 |
| 12:50.40 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: yeah, problem is there is no compatibility layer to 2.2 for lazy authors :P |
| 12:50.40 | nevcairiel | there are only the "small" babble's left that are used by 1 adodn |
| 12:50.58 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: lazy authors should quit life |
| 12:51.07 | Ellipsis | nag them until they fix it...that's what you do best, amirite |
| 12:51.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. it's easier to nag people that are on IRC tho |
| 12:51.45 | vhaarr | that's another problem altogether |
| 12:51.51 | vhaarr | we've discussed it many times |
| 12:51.59 | Ellipsis | I seriously think deprecated libs should be taken out of trunk so the lazy authors fix their shit |
| 12:52.00 | nevcairiel | just ninja-fix addons of authors that never visit irc |
| 12:52.01 | vhaarr | people should not be allowed to commit unless they're on IRC |
| 12:52.06 | vhaarr | yeah what nev said |
| 12:52.08 | vhaarr | that's what I do |
| 12:52.28 | nevcairiel | its nothing any (sane) author would revert |
| 12:52.31 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3011/#comment_332597 <--someone reply to this for me please :P |
| 12:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i COULD, but lack the technical competence to make the flame sound sane |
| 12:53.56 | Ellipsis | the game already gives you localized class strings for players |
| 12:53.56 | sag_ich_nicht | also he's wrong |
| 12:54.16 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: where? |
| 12:54.24 | vhaarr | Ellipsis: it doesn't |
| 12:54.28 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: only once you actually see the class |
| 12:54.30 | vhaarr | only when you're grouped with someone |
| 12:54.38 | vhaarr | or guilded |
| 12:54.44 | Ellipsis | and decursive does what exactly? |
| 12:54.52 | Ellipsis | right. creates frames for people you're grouped with. |
| 12:55.04 | nevcairiel | are we talking about decursive now? |
| 12:55.13 | Ellipsis | that's what sag_ich_nicht's link pointed to |
| 12:55.21 | vhaarr | who cares what sag_ich_nicht says |
| 12:55.23 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
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| 12:55.28 | Ellipsis | I do, because he's funny |
| 12:55.32 | vhaarr | :P |
| 12:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr your mom has a small penis |
| 12:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 12:55.39 | Ellipsis | we have to encourage him or else he might get bored of trolling and leave us |
| 12:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr your BugSack catcher for errors from Stubby still doesn't work |
| 12:56.03 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: some addons "want" localized class names in their options, which should be available before ever doing anything ingame |
| 12:56.17 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: so tell me how I can reproduce a stubby error |
| 12:56.20 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: so that I can test it |
| 12:56.24 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: then they can port babble-class |
| 12:56.28 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower|ZZzz wake up |
| 12:56.32 | vhaarr | I have already ported babble-class |
| 12:56.33 | Ellipsis | after all, I thought you said all the *useful* babbles were ported already |
| 12:56.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibBabble-Class-3.0/ |
| 12:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's already there oh lawd |
| 12:56.55 | nevcairiel | although i still recommend a "learning" translation layer, just show english names until you meet the locale version once |
| 12:56.58 | nevcairiel | then show it :P |
| 12:56.58 | Ellipsis | then tell the decursive guy that |
| 12:57.05 | vhaarr | he's not on IRC |
| 12:57.12 | vhaarr | and nobody here cares about decursive |
| 12:57.16 | vhaarr | since it's such a shit addon |
| 12:57.20 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: I much prefer that type of translation tbh, not sure if it's useful for some languages though |
| 12:57.27 | sag_ich_nicht | well i TRIED to use Detox vhaarr |
| 12:57.31 | vhaarr | but? |
| 12:57.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Detox sucks. |
| 12:57.36 | Ellipsis | vhaarr: obviously I was talking to sag_ich_nicht who has enough time to troll these addons' curse pages... |
| 12:57.37 | vhaarr | heh |
| 12:57.46 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: what's wrong with it? |
| 12:58.12 | Elkano | Grid + Clique = win ;) |
| 12:58.23 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: if its only for options, it should work perfectly .. if you actually need it for some ingame calculations, your code might be wrong, so i dunno :) |
| 12:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr: i couldn't get it into ANY kind of working configuration in the first 5 minutes. i figured that an addon that can't do that when i just installed it is not worth my time. :) |
| 12:58.54 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: yeah but I could see display issues for eastern languages...or perhaps even players in those locales who don't actually know the english words |
| 12:59.00 | sag_ich_nicht | (because the author is obviously a moron with interface design issues) |
| 12:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | so: fuck Detox |
| 12:59.53 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so what do i tell him what the problem with babble-2.2 is |
| 12:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | "The problem with 2.2 is that it's a horribly bloated monster." ? |
| 12:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 13:00.12 | sag_ich_nicht | because that's what it is, but i'm not sure if that's the only problem with it :P |
| 13:00.14 | Ellipsis | the problem with 2.2 is he should stop arguing and just switch to the new lib |
| 13:00.17 | nevcairiel | Blizzard will screw Babble-Class anyway with 2.4 |
| 13:00.22 | Ellipsis | it has a bigger number at the end of the name, therefore it's better |
| 13:00.25 | nevcairiel | with that renaming of male/female class names |
| 13:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: actually i just want to stop loading babble twice |
| 13:00.49 | Wogroipl_ | useless addon imo :P |
| 13:00.52 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: then say that |
| 13:01.02 | Ellipsis | you don't need our help to formulate a good response to that guy |
| 13:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: the more technically detailed and reasonable it is, the more likely he is to fix it |
| 13:01.28 | Ellipsis | just say babble-2.2 is deprecated, there IS a babble-class-3.0, and he needs to l2code |
| 13:01.28 | Ellipsis | well, maybe skip the last part |
| 13:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i can nag him afterwards if he doesn't do it anyway |
| 13:01.59 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: you didnt even update your own addons to Babble-Class-3.0, boo you! (plus i wonder what SpyGnome needs from Babble-Class) |
| 13:02.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart vhaarr |
| 13:02.38 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets vhaarr feel it |
| 13:02.38 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: stop trying to make us write your trolling posts for you, lazy nub |
| 13:03.47 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: oO |
| 13:04.02 | vhaarr | forgot spygnome :( |
| 13:04.12 | nevcairiel | it uses babble-class for getting the color |
| 13:04.16 | nevcairiel | l2RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 13:04.16 | vhaarr | right |
| 13:04.19 | vhaarr | fu |
| 13:04.34 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:04.36 | Ellipsis | ew |
| 13:06.29 | Elsia | blizz should just offer more API from the non-localized identifiers they offer to localized ones :P |
| 13:06.40 | Elsia | RAID_CLASS_COLORS case in point |
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| 13:08.54 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63573 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Get rid of Babble-Class and Roster. |
| 13:09.37 | Ellipsis | forgive me for the likely stupid question, but uh, what's spygnome do? |
| 13:10.29 | sag_ich_nicht | the same as spyglass. it's redundant. |
| 13:10.34 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc. |
| 13:10.46 | Ellipsis | what's spyglass do, then? |
| 13:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | inspect improvement. but i might be wrong about spygnomes function lemme check |
| 13:11.15 | nevcairiel | SpyGnome spys on people in my raid |
| 13:11.20 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 13:11.23 | sag_ich_nicht | k nvm |
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| 13:11.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i r rong |
| 13:11.27 | durcyn | no, spygnome has nothing to do with inspect |
| 13:11.27 | nevcairiel | tells me which addons they use |
| 13:11.35 | sag_ich_nicht | see 1 line above |
| 13:11.56 | Ellipsis | oh, ok |
| 13:11.59 | Ellipsis | thansk nevcairiel |
| 13:12.04 | Ellipsis | s/thansk/thanks |
| 13:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it was a false memory! |
| 13:12.35 | sag_ich_nicht | blame my brain not me! |
| 13:12.53 | Ellipsis | your brain isn't the cause of *all* your problems :P |
| 13:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | true |
| 13:13.08 | sag_ich_nicht | you account for the other third |
| 13:13.18 | Ellipsis | what can I say, I'm trouble |
| 13:13.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you're an e-slut |
| 13:13.35 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63574 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc OmenMenu.lua embeds.xml): Omen: update to babble-class-3.0 |
| 13:13.48 | Ellipsis | thta too |
| 13:13.50 | Ellipsis | that* |
| 13:14.13 | Ellipsis | hmm...typing failures abound...I think I need more caffeine |
| 13:14.22 | Ellipsis | (in before "no, you just need to stop typing") |
| 13:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you just need to DIAF |
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| 13:14.39 | Ellipsis | <3 you too |
| 13:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no you don't |
| 13:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 13:15.00 | Ellipsis | but what if I do? you're breaking my heart |
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| 13:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | then the point that i am useless as human being is proven once again |
| 13:15.39 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63575 10RatingBuster/ (. RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc embeds.xml): RatingBuster: update to babble-class-3.0 (and update .toc for babble-spell-3.0 which StatLogicLib needs) |
| 13:16.15 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63576 10Detox/ (Detox.lua Detox.toc libs/): Detox: Use 3.0 babble libs for now, addon needs some serious love for 2.4. |
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| 13:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | actually vhaarr nevcairiel lemme give you a list |
| 13:17.32 | nevcairiel | i only update what i use, cba otherwise .P |
| 13:18.12 | Ellipsis | crazy thought, how about someone gets swapmagic off babble-inventory-2.2? |
| 13:19.51 | Ellipsis | hey, that's a better response than I expected |
| 13:20.22 | sag_ich_nicht | god i hate using grep on win32 |
| 13:20.29 | nevcairiel | how can you get it "off" when there is no replacement? :) |
| 13:21.13 | Ellipsis | well clearly the babble is useless since nobody's ported it |
| 13:21.21 | Ellipsis | so I guess the translations should just be included within the addon :) |
| 13:21.39 | nevcairiel | useless as in only needed by a handful of addons, yeah |
| 13:21.49 | Ellipsis | do you use swapmagic? |
| 13:21.59 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 13:22.05 | sag_ich_nicht | btw.: |
| 13:22.06 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:11] <sag_ich_nicht> the following addons are still using babble-2.2 instead of 3.0 btw.: Aloft, AddonLoader, AtlasLoot, Decursive, Talismonger-3.0, Cartographer_Mining, _Herbalism, _Treasure, _Stats, _Fishing, _Cleanup, _Import, _nnTrainers, _Noteshare, _Quests, _QuestObjectives, _QuestInfo, _Trainers, _Vendors, _InstanceNotes, _InstanceLoot, _Routes, CCBreaker, RangeCheck-1.0, Omen, PallyPower, Proximo, RatingBuster, Gl |
| 13:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that is, of course, an outdated list |
| 13:22.51 | Elsia | erm why does rangecheck need babble? |
| 13:23.19 | Ellipsis | babble-spell |
| 13:23.21 | Nandini | probably for specifying spell names for range checking? |
| 13:23.29 | Ellipsis | it can be converted to IDs for 2.4 though |
| 13:23.30 | nevcairiel | i cba to fix any carto stuff :) |
| 13:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't know i don't care i'm just listing what errors for me when i login without babble-2.2 that come explicity from babble-2.2 missing |
| 13:24.11 | nevcairiel | you run full trunk eh? :P |
| 13:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 13:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | +grammar for that sentence above btw. |
| 13:24.46 | Elsia | in some parts of the US that's more than one insult ;) |
| 13:25.18 | Nandini | on a totally unrelated note, do enemy flightmasters leash? |
| 13:25.27 | nevcairiel | they're outdoor mobs |
| 13:25.31 | nevcairiel | probably at some point |
| 13:26.00 | Nandini | i was just thinking, it's fun to kill them, but they respawn pretty fast, so it might be more fun to let one chase me around for an hour :) |
| 13:26.01 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: but i'm pretty sure i have all of the libraries currently still in use in some form |
| 13:26.16 | Gngsk | leash and reset are two different situations |
| 13:26.33 | durcyn | Nandini: i was actually just reading a realm forum thread about flight masters being kited across zones, so they can be dragged pretty far |
| 13:26.39 | nevcairiel | i only run Babble-Inventory-2.2 because RatingBuster needs that |
| 13:26.46 | Gngsk | if a mob doesn't leash then a lot of classes can kite a mob indefinitely |
| 13:26.56 | nevcairiel | and Babble-Race-2.2 on my warlock, because Threat-1.0 warlock module needs that |
| 13:27.03 | nevcairiel | splitting up babble = Win |
| 13:27.26 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 13:27.37 | Gngsk | shunning people who don't speak english would be more win imo |
| 13:27.42 | nevcairiel | true |
| 13:27.51 | Ellipsis | yes, let's do that |
| 13:27.55 | Ellipsis | pretty please can we? |
| 13:28.14 | nevcairiel | can we start with that chinese translators? |
| 13:28.15 | Nandini | let's be even more specific, shun people who don't speak enUS |
| 13:28.18 | nevcairiel | just for the kicks? |
| 13:28.18 | Nandini | :P |
| 13:28.22 | Gngsk | I thought that's what the end result of the acelocale-2.0 vs acelocale-2.1 war was |
| 13:28.27 | Gngsk | gtfo non english! |
| 13:28.39 | Nandini | no more enGB |
| 13:29.01 | nevcairiel | british english sucks anyway, stupid u's |
| 13:29.30 | Nandini | enGB is a valid client locale though, isn't it? |
| 13:29.45 | sag_ich_nicht | enGB is bullshit |
| 13:29.46 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:29.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the same as enUS |
| 13:29.53 | sag_ich_nicht | EXACTLY the same |
| 13:29.55 | nevcairiel | the european english client returns enUS |
| 13:30.02 | nevcairiel | its just "called" enGB |
| 13:30.02 | Nandini | ahh ok |
| 13:30.06 | nevcairiel | to differentiate it :p |
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| 13:30.21 | nevcairiel | because the patches are different |
| 13:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ELP |
| 13:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | etc. |
| 13:30.45 | nevcairiel | yeah we can destroy that too then |
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| 13:31.37 | Nandini | i want to steal the stormwind or IF flight master |
| 13:31.57 | nevcairiel | if is somewhat to central i suppose |
| 13:32.01 | nevcairiel | *too |
| 13:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't steal flight masters anymore |
| 13:32.14 | Nefarion | could anyone point me in the direction of some info on how to use the game's minimap BLPs? like, how to map out and stitch together the BLPs? |
| 13:32.19 | sag_ich_nicht | GMs give you a 3h ban if you manage to do it actually |
| 13:32.30 | nevcairiel | i bet sag_ich_nicht tried |
| 13:32.38 | Nandini | what if i just fight him VERY slowly |
| 13:32.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no but a guild on Frostwolf EU did |
| 13:32.58 | Nandini | like i fight him with rank 1 thorns |
| 13:33.04 | Nefarion | steal them? you mean like kite them away so nobody can use it? |
| 13:33.07 | nevcairiel | Nandini: as if GMs care, they'll just nuke your ass |
| 13:33.09 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 13:33.15 | Nefarion | haha that's an awesome idea |
| 13:33.25 | Nefarion | i'm gonna try that after the maintenance |
| 13:33.47 | durcyn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44795289&sid=1 |
| 13:34.06 | durcyn | "GOON SQUAD HAS THE THERAMORE FLIGHTMASTER" |
| 13:34.19 | Nefarion | anyway, would anyone happen to know? i'm throwing around an idea for a satellite-view attachment to the default world map, to view a high-detail world view based on the minimap BLPs. |
| 13:34.34 | Nandini | Nefarion: I think the file names for minimap textures in the mpq archive are a hash of the zone name and then a row/column grid |
| 13:34.35 | Nefarion | and i'm not sure how to map out the BLPs from the game |
| 13:34.37 | Ellipsis | Nefarion: like yatlas? |
| 13:34.47 | Nefarion | yatlas is ugly as hell last i tried |
| 13:35.01 | Ellipsis | same concept though, isn't it? |
| 13:35.04 | Nefarion | yeah |
| 13:35.14 | Nefarion | i guess i could check it =/ lol |
| 13:35.27 | Nandini | what was the name of cryects mod that did something like that for instances |
| 13:35.29 | Nandini | replay? |
| 13:35.35 | Nandini | the one he abandoned |
| 13:35.42 | Nefarion | doesn't cart use the minimap files? |
| 13:36.25 | Nandini | i think cartographer uses static images |
| 13:36.34 | Nandini | look at the instance maps module |
| 13:36.37 | Nefarion | no, i'm pretty sure it doesn't |
| 13:36.39 | durcyn | some of both |
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| 13:40.45 | evl | nevcairiel: scurv land lubber, do I need an extra mod to display cooldowns as numbers on the bartender buttons? |
| 13:40.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yes you do |
| 13:41.13 | evl | and I really hate the way blizzard displays that pie countdown thingy |
| 13:41.18 | evl | can I turn that off somehow |
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| 13:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish. i also wish i had a 1/100th counter |
| 13:42.32 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: whats a good extra mod to get those cooldpwn numbers |
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| 13:42.45 | Nandini | i like OmniCC |
| 13:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | evl what Nandini said |
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| 13:47.50 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: Hide Bliz origin cooldown animation. |
| 13:47.58 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: cooldowncount has that option, PRAISE THE LORD |
| 13:50.05 | sag_ich_nicht | evl: too bad cooldowncount sucks tho |
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| 13:50.22 | sag_ich_nicht | evl: cooldowncount will eat your babies and taint your UI to death |
| 13:51.26 | evl | Hey, Jenna slept with like a million guys and people say she was tainted but she never featured in an anal scene! |
| 13:51.36 | ramoz | yes she did |
| 13:51.43 | ramoz | not with a guy tho |
| 13:51.46 | evl | AHA |
| 13:52.04 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: well I dont care if it taints as long as it works tbh :P |
| 13:52.12 | ramoz | that makes her atleast semi-tainted |
| 13:52.13 | ramoz | So |
| 13:52.16 | sag_ich_nicht | evl you're a moron |
| 13:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | please kill yourself |
| 13:52.21 | ramoz | is OmniCC better than Cooldown Count |
| 13:52.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yes it is ramoz |
| 13:52.31 | ramoz | why? |
| 13:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | evl: enjoy your lower fps and a UI that doesn't work properly |
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| 13:52.54 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: I hate you more than CO2 right now |
| 13:52.58 | nevcairiel | because it has the flash animation when a cooldown is over |
| 13:53.13 | ramoz | and the flash is bad? |
| 13:53.25 | nevcairiel | no thats the good thing in OmniCC |
| 13:53.25 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:53.35 | evl | I guess disabling the pie animation is impossible without taint |
| 13:53.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ramoz: because CC taints and is an fps drain |
| 13:53.48 | nevcairiel | its not impossible to disable the pie |
| 13:53.53 | ramoz | what |
| 13:53.57 | ramoz | sag_ich_nicht: you confuse me |
| 13:54.02 | ramoz | no you dont |
| 13:54.05 | ramoz | i confuse my self |
| 13:54.11 | nevcairiel | OmniCC = win |
| 13:54.16 | sag_ich_nicht | agree'd |
| 13:54.18 | evl | nevcairiel: my problem when I tried omnicc last was that the pie is so noticable I can't see the icon underneath with huge digits on top as well |
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| 13:54.37 | nevcairiel | evl: then just memorize where your spells are ? :P |
| 13:54.49 | keiss | :D |
| 13:54.57 | ramoz | or.. use keybindings! (!) |
| 13:55.09 | ramoz | wait |
| 13:55.12 | CIA-9 | 03shamino * r63577 10EnchantingSell/: |
| 13:55.12 | CIA-9 | EnchantingSell: |
| 13:55.12 | CIA-9 | - added dewdroplib embed |
| 13:55.20 | ramoz | OmniCC uses LSM-2.0 |
| 13:55.33 | nevcairiel | to change the font |
| 13:55.34 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 13:56.05 | ramoz | why is it not on the svn, even when it uses ace libs? :O |
| 13:56.13 | nevcairiel | its not a ace lib |
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| 14:02.53 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks for making me notice that ramoz |
| 14:04.14 | ramoz | hm |
| 14:04.58 | ramoz | i think mapsters externals are wrong when you download it disembbed |
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| 14:09.27 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63578 10kgPanelsConfig/PanelHelper.lua: kgPanelsConfig: update to LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 14:09.49 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63579 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: change sharedmedia support to 3.0 |
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| 14:11.00 | Ellipsis | huh |
| 14:11.27 | Ellipsis | I must have crashed WoW a thousand times by now...but this is the first time I've crashed the crash reporter |
| 14:12.12 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r63580 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/ (BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.toc): BigWigs_KalecgosPortals: frFR Update |
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| 14:14.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i do that all the time |
| 14:14.46 | sag_ich_nicht | actually most of the time WoW will crash and the error reporter doesn't even show up |
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| 14:19.12 | CIA-9 | 03shamino * r63581 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell.toc: |
| 14:19.12 | CIA-9 | EnchantingSell: |
| 14:19.12 | CIA-9 | - added dewdrop, fixed fubarplugin |
| 14:20.20 | Tinhay | What would be the correct way to add additional fonts to LibSharedMedia-3.0? I can't seem to find any documentation for it. |
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| 14:20.57 | Windcape | hey, wondering a bit about this message: AutoTurnin.lua:1: AceAddon: AceOO-20.0: Library "FuBarPlugin-2.0" does not exist. |
| 14:21.42 | Windcape | however, I got fubar installed. And other addons are using the same ace object creation with same FuBarPlugin-2.0 string, without issues |
| 14:22.02 | Stanzilla | Tinhay: SharedMedia:Register("font", "NAME", "PATHTOFILE") |
| 14:22.05 | nevcairiel | are you sure FuBarPlugin-2.0 is loaded before your addon? |
| 14:22.26 | Windcape | nevcairiel nope, any way I can check that? |
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| 14:22.42 | break19 | Windcape: is it in your OptionalDeps toc line? |
| 14:23.00 | nevcairiel | well you can make sure that it is, do you have externals setup, OptDep'ed it, or something like that? :) |
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| 14:23.09 | Windcape | mm, good point |
| 14:23.59 | evl | nevcairiel: doesn't showModel effectively do what I want btw? :o |
| 14:24.14 | nevcairiel | i suppose? |
| 14:24.31 | evl | nevcairiel: never noticed the option, or rather didn't understand what model meant in that context :D |
| 14:24.47 | evl | it's all good then |
| 14:24.54 | Windcape | hmm, same error , yet I added it to the OptionalDeps |
| 14:24.54 | evl | and sag_ich_nicht doesn't have to be mean to me anymore |
| 14:25.37 | Ellipsis | Windcape: are you testing it with embedded or disembedded libs? |
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| 14:26.38 | Windcape | actually, removing FuBarPlugin from the AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0):new("FubarPlugin-2.0", ... ) line solved the issue |
| 14:26.52 | Windcape | Ellipsis the latter. But It's not my addon, it's one from the normal ace repository |
| 14:27.04 | Cryect | uh well it "would" except that doesn't really solve the issue if it needs FubarPlugin |
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| 14:27.31 | break19 | rofl |
| 14:27.34 | Windcape | lucky for me, it does not :p |
| 14:27.57 | break19 | then why was it in there in the first place? copy/paste ftl |
| 14:28.23 | Windcape | still seem strange. Special as addons like beql don't use FubarPlugin in their "ace constructor" (does that line have a name?) , but yet works in FuBar |
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| 14:30.33 | break19 | Windcape: you dont have to have in -that- line.. most addons that support fubar as an afterthought have another lua file, with FBP = AceLibrary("FuBarPlugin-2.0") then use FBP() calls to do the fubar stuff |
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| 14:31.43 | Windcape | oki |
| 14:31.53 | Windcape | that's the OnMenuRequest property I surpose? |
| 14:31.59 | break19 | in fact, its better to do it that way instead of embedding the libs directly into main chunk like that. and Ace3 removes embed support for a few of it's core libs.. AceDB-3.0 has to have it's own identifier instead of being embedded etc. |
| 14:32.06 | break19 | Windcape: among others, yes |
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| 14:34.56 | kebinusan | ok I suck at html, if I have two cells in at able with different sized information, is there any way to make say cell1 the same size as cell2 so they match up? |
| 14:35.20 | Windcape | both , witdh = 50% |
| 14:35.32 | Windcape | <td style="width: 50%;"></td><td style="width: 50%;"></td> |
| 14:35.44 | baer_ | is there a way to leave out some areas within the TSP in cartographer_routes? I really hate that mountain regions within the barrens. |
| 14:36.30 | ramoz | baer_: use Routes and make taboos |
| 14:37.07 | baer_ | ramoz: taboos? |
| 14:37.22 | ramoz | yeah |
| 14:37.26 | baer_ | I don't have an addon or option for this. |
| 14:37.31 | ramoz | no |
| 14:37.33 | Windcape | hmm, any difference between the use of : (colon) and . (dot) ? I should assume the first is a static call and the second normal public call on a instance |
| 14:37.40 | ramoz | cause you have to use normal Routes, not cartographer_routes |
| 14:37.56 | baer_ | oh? |
| 14:37.58 | baer_ | brb. |
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| 14:38.48 | baer_ | ramoz: is it possible to have both addons working (cartographer_routes & routes) ? |
| 14:38.54 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 14:39.01 | Ellipsis | they are separate addons and will function separately |
| 14:39.03 | baer_ | yay :) |
| 14:39.32 | Elsia | i use routes with carthographer though, not sure why you'd need both |
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| 14:40.08 | CIA-9 | 03wobin * r63582 10Xparky/Xparky.lua: Xparky - Testing git updating |
| 14:40.27 | nevcairiel | Windcape: the colon is just syntactic sugar --> object:method() is the same as object.method(object) |
| 14:40.40 | kebinusan | does that work for height as well |
| 14:40.52 | nevcairiel | it'll automatically use the first argument as "self" in your method then |
| 14:41.16 | Windcape | oki, thanks |
| 14:41.23 | nevcairiel | so function object:method() --> functio object.method(self) |
| 14:41.27 | nevcairiel | in declaration |
| 14:41.35 | nevcairiel | + n |
| 14:41.37 | Windcape | smells of improved python |
| 14:41.41 | Wobin | Windcape: I advise you have a read of http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 14:42.00 | Wobin | that will give a good overview of lua and it's tricks |
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| 14:56.01 | Bloodguy | is there someone who might help with mangos? |
| 14:57.08 | vhaarr | Bloodguy: I'm fairly sure Blizzard doesn't look kindly on Mangos, so I'd prefer it if you didn't discuss it in this channel- |
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| 15:02.00 | Wobin | ...? |
| 15:02.40 | Wobin | Is mangoes a new botting tool, or does Blizzard hold some emnity towards stone fruit I've yet to encounter? |
| 15:02.40 | clad|office | google is your friend |
| 15:02.50 | Xinhuan | i like mangos |
| 15:02.55 | Xinhuan | they are sweet, yellow and fruity |
| 15:03.07 | doc^bla | ah, it's a priate server ;) |
| 15:03.09 | Ellipsis | and they taste like Xinhuan's mage water |
| 15:03.11 | Ellipsis | true story |
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| 15:04.03 | Wobin | knives? |
| 15:04.08 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 15:04.10 | nevcairiel | i'm eating |
| 15:04.17 | Wobin | I've never understood private servers |
| 15:04.28 | Wobin | I mean, what's the point? =P |
| 15:04.33 | Xinhuan | wobin, easy |
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| 15:04.37 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I compliment your water and I get stabbed? |
| 15:04.39 | nevcairiel | no money =P |
| 15:04.43 | Wobin | pft |
| 15:04.50 | Wobin | those that can't afford WoW need to get a job |
| 15:05.01 | nevcairiel | sucky AI, no boss scripts, stupid leveling |
| 15:05.05 | Wobin | Or a sugar daddy |
| 15:05.07 | nevcairiel | thats what you get |
| 15:05.12 | vhaarr | Wobin: You tell that to the starving children in Africa! |
| 15:05.19 | Xinhuan | 1. free (usually) 2. fast to lvl 3. lagfree 4. free epix and allow easy testing of respecs without affecting your real char, etc |
| 15:05.20 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 15:05.28 | Wobin | vhaarr: I don't see them playing WoW! |
| 15:05.28 | vhaarr | I've heard rumors that the OLPC project is going to bundle Mangos. |
| 15:05.42 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: official servers are lagfree too, if you play on one thats supposed to be in your region :P |
| 15:05.42 | vhaarr | They will as soon as they get their OLPC! |
| 15:05.44 | Wobin | free epix! |
| 15:05.44 | Wobin | wtg |
| 15:05.48 | Wobin | yey |
| 15:06.13 | Wobin | I've done the whole 'creator' thing before |
| 15:06.29 | nevcairiel | free epix? do pvp and arena |
| 15:06.31 | Wobin | the whole uberpowered thing gets old after five minutes |
| 15:06.47 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, except that the closest official server to my location is only 13 hours of timezone away :) |
| 15:06.49 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r63583 10/branches/mHud/ (13 files in 11 dirs): |
| 15:06.49 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 15:06.49 | CIA-9 | Change: Module templates have been moved to their respective module. |
| 15:06.49 | CIA-9 | Fix: Abyss text should reappear. |
| 15:06.52 | Josh_Borke | anybody ever written apache modules in C? |
| 15:07.13 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: yes, only not in C and not for Apache |
| 15:07.16 | Wobin | nevcairiel: s'true |
| 15:07.24 | Wobin | wtb Oceanic server in Oceania |
| 15:07.32 | Josh_Borke | so..."anybody ever written modules"? |
| 15:07.39 | clad|office | I'd do it for UI stuff |
| 15:07.39 | clad|office | hehe |
| 15:07.50 | nevcairiel | why bother? |
| 15:07.57 | Wobin | clad|office: if they had up to date servers |
| 15:08.00 | clad|office | aye |
| 15:08.01 | Wobin | which I don't believe they do |
| 15:08.14 | Wobin | nevcairiel: It'd be great for the tuesday downtime for testing =P |
| 15:08.23 | Wobin | I still think they should give us a testing realm |
| 15:08.23 | Xinhuan | LIKE RIGHT NOW |
| 15:08.26 | nevcairiel | meh i generally sleep or work up to 11am |
| 15:08.27 | Wobin | that's up all the tiem |
| 15:08.33 | nevcairiel | get on PTR =P |
| 15:08.35 | Xinhuan | wtb server up |
| 15:08.37 | Wobin | or has a staggered downtime |
| 15:08.51 | Wobin | pft, too much effort to get the updates =P |
| 15:09.08 | Wobin | Xinhuan: I dunno why you're worried |
| 15:09.12 | Wobin | Blackrock is down atm. |
| 15:09.17 | Wobin | Isn't that the normal state of affairs? |
| 15:09.18 | Xinhuan | so is argent dawn :) |
| 15:09.34 | Wobin | See, I have reason to complain =) |
| 15:09.36 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you do speak chinese dont you? you COULD play on a chinese server thats probably near'ish :) |
| 15:09.39 | Wobin | for you it's ssdd =) |
| 15:10.00 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, the official blizzard support in singapore only sells the wow product for US servers ;p |
| 15:10.12 | Wobin | You could go around saying "HELLO" |
| 15:10.16 | Wobin | "CAN I HAVE WATER" |
| 15:10.20 | Wobin | and piss them off |
| 15:10.26 | Xinhuan | its impossible to get a chinese wow unless via import (illegal) |
| 15:10.41 | Pkekyo| | anyone know a proper remedy for rope burns? |
| 15:10.48 | clad|office | dont' get them |
| 15:10.49 | Ellipsis | naughty Pkekyo| |
| 15:10.54 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: bad boy =) |
| 15:11.01 | Pkekyo| | now what? |
| 15:11.04 | Wobin | but I'd go for some aloe vera |
| 15:11.05 | clad|office | if your'e goign to masturbate with a rope around your neck, you should have a spotter! |
| 15:11.14 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 15:11.19 | Wobin | "Your safe word is "gRHrhgAHGghghg!" |
| 15:11.29 | clad|office | my text alert is a murloc |
| 15:11.31 | Pkekyo| | was wondering wtf 'rope burns' had become a euphemism for |
| 15:11.33 | clad|office | and it went off in lecture this morning |
| 15:11.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:11.51 | Wobin | rope burns don't -need- euphemism |
| 15:12.11 | Pkekyo| | it's a prefectly legit rope burn though |
| 15:12.18 | Wobin | they already imply you've been tied up somehow =) |
| 15:12.54 | Pkekyo| | nah, fell off a concrete wall, grabbed a rope that was hanging 'round hoping it'd save my arse...it did, but fucked up my hand completely |
| 15:13.01 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: treat it like any other burn |
| 15:13.12 | Wobin | use some aloe, or vitamin E cream |
| 15:13.24 | Pkekyo| | for future referance: parkour on snow and/or ice is a bad idea |
| 15:13.31 | Wobin | This is true |
| 15:13.51 | p3lim | Pkekyo| lol :p |
| 15:13.51 | Pkekyo| | I'm not used to having burns keke...think my mom has some aloe plant sitting 'round though |
| 15:14.01 | Wobin | I like parkour |
| 15:14.04 | [dRaCo] | use some high %age alcohol do get the dirt and stuff out :> |
| 15:14.12 | Pkekyo| | p3lim: had parkour in gym class today... I got carried away :p |
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| 15:14.15 | [dRaCo] | burns even more, but makes you look hard |
| 15:14.17 | Wobin | if it weren't for the fact that it'd completely and utterly ruin my knees and ankles for the rest of my life |
| 15:14.20 | Wobin | I'd probably do it |
| 15:14.23 | p3lim | parkour is a summer-thing |
| 15:14.30 | p3lim | im into it too :) |
| 15:15.01 | p3lim | nothing like an emo jumping around like a frog |
| 15:15.21 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: I allready ruined my knees for the rest of my life, so I just figured...why not? :p |
| 15:15.36 | Wobin | hehe, I like my joints as they are |
| 15:16.01 | Wobin | as much fun as parkour is, high impact sports are not good for me |
| 15:17.38 | Pkekyo| | same...and still I do both parkour and snowboarding :p |
| 15:19.19 | p3lim | << parkour + slalom |
| 15:19.31 | p3lim | well.. twintip actually |
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| 15:24.06 | break19 | Pkekyo|: all kidding aside, go get some aloe gel. |
| 15:24.46 | break19 | the gel is better than trying to get it drectly from the plant |
| 15:25.18 | break19 | and you can put it in the freezer for a couple of minutes, get it nice and cold, then it'll not only help heal it, but help with the pain. :) |
| 15:25.55 | break19 | its what I use for sunburns, and it also worked good when I nearly burned my face off with a blowtorch (long story) |
| 15:26.10 | kenlyric | did the angry yellow god punish Pkekyo| ? |
| 15:26.24 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 15:26.29 | Ellipsis | no, this time it was the kinky rope god |
| 15:26.38 | break19 | heh |
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| 15:27.28 | Pkekyo| | nah, not kinky |
| 15:28.08 | Wobin | If you can't find any vitaman e cream, you can get the liquid capsules for swallowing and cut one open and spread it over the burn |
| 15:28.11 | break19 | was the rope naughty, or knotted? :) |
| 15:28.20 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 15:28.46 | Pkekyo| | get your heads out of your arses, perverts :P |
| 15:28.46 | Wobin | rope burns are almost as bad as paper cuts =P |
| 15:28.54 | break19 | next time, put knots in the rope. |
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| 15:29.05 | break19 | makes it easier to grab when you need it |
| 15:29.06 | Wobin | it was an emergency rope |
| 15:29.09 | break19 | always prepare :) |
| 15:30.16 | break19 | <- accident prone, so when I'm somewhere I think I might get hurt, I always look around beforehand for stuff I can use to help lower the chances of hospitalization when(not if) I fuck up and hurt myself. lol |
| 15:30.23 | Pkekyo| | well, wasn't exactly planning to fall off the fucking wall :p |
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| 15:31.18 | break19 | figure, I fell out of a tree when I was a kid, and put a gashing wound in the back of my head.. later on in life I was pushing my little sister on one of those carousels, attempted to jump on, and smacked my head, falling down and breaking 3 fingers.. |
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| 15:31.52 | Wobin | break19: perhaps you should consider not going out =) |
| 15:32.23 | Pkekyo| | or just wear a helmet, dry suit and life jacket when you do :p |
| 15:32.28 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:32.39 | break19 | then later, I attempted to climb down the porch at my parent's summer home (8ft above ground) and slipped.. then I had a large chunk of metal fall into the torch I was using, to cut away said metal.. |
| 15:32.41 | Wobin | You could carry a sign: "I've fallen and I can't get up" |
| 15:33.06 | break19 | it snatched the blowtorch's business end across the side of my face.. 2nd degree burns.. and turned my right ear into a slice of bacon. |
| 15:33.14 | Wobin | .... |
| 15:33.21 | Wobin | Does it say bad things about me |
| 15:33.26 | Wobin | that I'm now craving bacon? |
| 15:33.29 | Wobin | <.< |
| 15:33.31 | Wobin | >.> |
| 15:33.39 | Xinhuan | how did this conversation even start |
| 15:33.40 | break19 | then a while after that, I had a 900lb steel wall collapse, shattering my pelvis and fracturing my L2 vert :) |
| 15:33.42 | Ellipsis | it says bad things about you that you weren't before |
| 15:33.47 | Xinhuan | *mind boggles* |
| 15:33.48 | break19 | Wobin: actually, funny story about that.. |
| 15:33.49 | Ellipsis | I mean...it's bacon |
| 15:33.50 | Wobin | Ellipsis: this is true |
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| 15:34.02 | Pkekyo| | rofl Wobin |
| 15:34.03 | Wobin | break19: honestly, I think you should reconsider that whole going out thing =) |
| 15:34.08 | break19 | Wobin: when it happened, i went to my boss and said "hey boss, that smell? it smells like bacon" he puked. lol |
| 15:34.09 | Pkekyo| | now you made me hungry :( |
| 15:34.57 | break19 | it *did* smell like bacon tho.. I was laughing about it, it didnt really hurt until they started scraping away the burnt hair and skin :( |
| 15:35.33 | Wobin | well they -do- call human 'long pig' |
| 15:35.38 | break19 | awesome medical team at that shipyard tho. I didnt even see anyone outside their own internal clinic.. and not a single scar because of it :) |
| 15:35.50 | Wobin | win |
| 15:36.12 | break19 | well.. it -is- like the 2nd largest shipyard in the US :) |
| 15:36.20 | Pkekyo| | shut up, YOU ARE MAKING ME HUNGRY :< |
| 15:36.32 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: gnaw on your ear |
| 15:36.33 | ramoz | baer_: they do exaclty the same, so i dunno why you want both |
| 15:36.45 | break19 | at it's highest employment numbers, in the late 80s before the huge military cuts, it employed over 15,000 people. |
| 15:37.15 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: can't reach :< |
| 15:37.38 | break19 | Pkekyo|: grab a knife and put it off.. THEN gnaw on it. |
| 15:37.44 | Wobin | Xinhuan: It started with Pkekyo| complaining about his kinky rope burns |
| 15:38.08 | Xinhuan | boring topic |
| 15:38.10 | Xinhuan | lets change it :) |
| 15:38.13 | break19 | come to think of it.. maybe thats why Van Gogh cut off his ear.. he may have been hungry for bacon :) |
| 15:38.29 | Wobin | anyway, I'm off to bed |
| 15:38.33 | Wobin | night all |
| 15:40.19 | Pkekyo| | not kniky, damn you! :p |
| 15:40.31 | Pkekyo| | g'nite |
| 15:40.37 | Pkekyo| | also: 5pm, dickwad :P |
| 15:40.50 | Pkekyo| | - disregarding timezones ftw... |
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| 15:43.47 | Pkekyo| | break19: oh, and fuck you, my ear's staying the way it is |
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| 15:44.16 | break19 | Pkekyo|: heh |
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| 15:45.59 | break19 | Pkekyo|: Internet Standard Time... I dont remember purl's keyword for it. |
| 15:46.40 | Ellipsis | ~ugt |
| 15:46.41 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:46.58 | break19 | ah that's it. |
| 15:49.37 | Pkekyo| | break19: I know, I frequently use it myself |
| 15:49.53 | Pkekyo| | I just felt like acting like a dongjob ofr a moment |
| 15:50.27 | break19 | heh |
| 15:51.18 | Pkekyo| | doubetakes? |
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| 15:52.48 | Wobin | dong...job? |
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| 15:53.51 | Ellipsis | doubletakes...like...reading it twice because I didn't see it right the first time :P |
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| 15:54.00 | Zergreth | meep |
| 15:54.38 | Pkekyo| | ooh |
| 15:54.52 | Zergreth | ok, lets see...i need some help. doesnt have to do anything with Ace, but with a wow addon i like and want to modify a tiny bit. its called fastquest, and i want to edit a blp file it is using |
| 15:55.05 | Zergreth | so, i made my new graphic, but whenever i convert it to .blp and start up the game |
| 15:55.18 | Zergreth | where the graphic is supposed to be, theres only a green rectangle |
| 15:55.21 | Zergreth | most likely 00FF00 |
| 15:55.41 | Ellipsis | try a different blp converter |
| 15:55.49 | Zergreth | when that happens and i close wow, it gives me an error with WoW.exe, specifically Texture.cpp |
| 15:55.53 | durcyn | and fix your alpha channel |
| 15:55.53 | Zergreth | yea, thats the weird part |
| 15:56.02 | Zergreth | i used that blp converter for ages, it always worked |
| 15:56.10 | Zergreth | durcyn, can you explain that a bit further? |
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| 15:57.47 | Pkekyo| | I'm off, laters lads and lasses |
| 15:57.54 | Zergreth | later |
| 15:57.56 | Zergreth | *waves* |
| 15:58.24 | Zergreth | anyway, now that im here already, theres another tiny problem i got. sometimes, the battleground minimap button only refreshes every one minute or so |
| 15:58.31 | Zergreth | like, it always shows how long you are in the queue |
| 15:58.37 | Zergreth | but the time only updates every one minute |
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| 16:01.19 | Zergreth | just tried a different blp converter |
| 16:01.21 | Zergreth | didnt work either |
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| 16:05.48 | Xinhuan | Zergreth |
| 16:05.52 | Xinhuan | whats the size of that file |
| 16:05.52 | Zergreth | yesh |
| 16:05.54 | Xinhuan | yu are converting |
| 16:05.58 | Zergreth | file size? |
| 16:06.02 | Xinhuan | meaning, pixel width/height |
| 16:06.06 | Zergreth | 15*15 |
| 16:06.11 | Xinhuan | that would be the issue |
| 16:06.16 | Zergreth | ah |
| 16:06.17 | Xinhuan | wow only recognizes |
| 16:06.21 | Xinhuan | the smallest size as 16x16 |
| 16:06.25 | Xinhuan | and the largest as 512x512 |
| 16:06.29 | Zergreth | and then things with base as 2 |
| 16:06.31 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63584 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: |
| 16:06.31 | CIA-9 | SpyGnome: |
| 16:06.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.34 | Xinhuan | and both the width and height must be a power of 2 |
| 16:06.34 | Zergreth | alright, alright |
| 16:06.43 | Zergreth | yea, should have thought of that |
| 16:06.52 | Zergreth | i will make that 16*16 then |
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| 16:07.04 | Zergreth | i just have it as 15*15 because the addon changes the size to 15*15 |
| 16:07.10 | Zergreth | so i thought it would work |
| 16:07.12 | Zergreth | what a shame ;/ |
| 16:07.14 | Xinhuan | nope heh |
| 16:07.18 | Zergreth | thanks a ton |
| 16:07.35 | Xinhuan | wow uses a very good scaling sort of algorithm to scale images up/down in size |
| 16:07.41 | Zergreth | err |
| 16:07.49 | Zergreth | well, the scaled image the addon has looks horrible+ |
| 16:07.53 | Zergreth | thats why i made a new one |
| 16:07.59 | Zergreth | which i now have to enlarge a bit, hm |
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| 16:08.03 | Xinhuan | you should make a 64x64 one |
| 16:08.08 | Xinhuan | so it looks good when scaled down |
| 16:08.26 | Zergreth | i will make 16*16 |
| 16:08.39 | Zergreth | im not a fan of automatic scaling |
| 16:08.44 | Zergreth | probably because im into pixel art alot |
| 16:09.12 | Zergreth | my stuff looks fine on the size it has, hehe |
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| 16:10.49 | Zergreth | anyway, now that we are already at it...do you know any good tutorials i could read to get started with addon coding? i already read the ace2 tutorial, read through some on wowwiki and i already got other coding experience |
| 16:11.02 | Industrial | just do |
| 16:11.14 | Industrial | take apart other addons for specific info or ask the authors or the channel |
| 16:11.18 | Industrial | use pastey.net etc |
| 16:11.22 | Industrial | best method imho |
| 16:11.36 | Xinhuan | the best tutorials is looking at existing addon code |
| 16:11.41 | Zergreth | well, i check the addons im using alot actually |
| 16:11.53 | Zergreth | but thats a hell lot of lines, hehe |
| 16:11.58 | Zergreth | takes quite a bit to read |
| 16:12.15 | Industrial | yeah I started picking apart a small addon cause i thought i could do it better and remade it my own style |
| 16:12.15 | Zergreth | but it will probably help, true |
| 16:12.25 | Zergreth | i also learned c++ by checking existing code examples |
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| 16:14.07 | Zergreth | guess i will try that later..i just need some time ;D |
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| 16:15.10 | [dRaCo] | there's a good tutorial in wowace's wiki |
| 16:15.31 | Zergreth | i read all the tutorials in the wowace wiki |
| 16:15.32 | Zergreth | ;D |
| 16:15.41 | [dRaCo] | checked welcome_home? |
| 16:16.39 | Zergreth | yep |
| 16:16.46 | Zergreth | its a very nice tutorial and example |
| 16:17.00 | Zergreth | but i guess i still need some more |
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| 16:24.00 | break19 | hmm.. I want to figure out which addons are using which libs.. easiest way? |
| 16:24.14 | ragnarkon | see if they have a libs folder |
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| 16:24.44 | break19 | dude.. I have 200 addons.. besides, I use no-externals anyway. |
| 16:25.17 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r63585 10Talented/chat.lua: Talented: Add "Write template to chat" option to template mode as well. |
| 16:25.17 | break19 | I'm wanting to see which addons are still wanting older lib versions, so I can set about updating my local copies for the hell of it. |
| 16:25.59 | ragnarkon | eh good luck with that one |
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| 16:27.02 | ragnarkon | easier to probably just update all you addons, and let them be. Gonna be a pain to figure out which addons use which version of libs because sometimes they're not even announced in a convenient place. |
| 16:27.08 | Zergreth | ah...i got my texture thing to work |
| 16:27.24 | Zergreth | though now it displays black pixels instead of half-transparent ones |
| 16:27.31 | Zergreth | i pretty much expected that...how do i fix that? |
| 16:28.45 | Xinhuan | why do you want to use blp files |
| 16:28.49 | Xinhuan | just use tga |
| 16:29.31 | break19 | ragnarkon: easy is a 4 letter word. |
| 16:29.54 | ragnarkon | thats true |
| 16:29.57 | break19 | if I didn't want a challenge, I wouldn't be in a developer's IRC channel. :) |
| 16:30.02 | Zergreth | Xinhuan, probably right ;D |
| 16:30.06 | Zergreth | i just did that |
| 16:30.12 | ragnarkon | Valid point, well... |
| 16:30.12 | Zergreth | and noticed i just got my pixels too dark |
| 16:30.13 | Zergreth | hehe |
| 16:31.12 | Zergreth | god, i should just keep photoshop open |
| 16:31.12 | ragnarkon | You could open all the libs by hand, check the commented line to figure out which version of the lib it is, and then backup the old lib, and then update the lib. If the addon works use the new lib if it doesn't use the old one. |
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| 16:31.27 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r63586 10DaPortrait/ (. DaPortrait.lua DaPortrait.toc embeds.xml modules/Text.lua): |
| 16:31.27 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 16:31.27 | CIA-9 | - Switch to LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 16:32.37 | ragnarkon | Or you can zoom through the Lib's API and see if any of the functions used in the addon have been deleted or edited. |
| 16:32.44 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r63587 10AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: |
| 16:32.44 | CIA-9 | AlarLib |
| 16:32.44 | CIA-9 | Fixed typo in line 1486 |
| 16:33.08 | Ellipsis | ^but how would anyone ever know? |
| 16:33.19 | nevcairiel | break19: just disable the old library and see what errors? :) |
| 16:33.38 | break19 | ragnarkon: yes, but it'd be faster to know ahead of time which 2 or 3 addons, out of my 200+ might still be using, say ParserLib, instead of Parser-3 or LibParser4 |
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| 16:34.00 | break19 | nevcairiel: servers arent up, and Im bored, its the whole reason I wanna do it. ;p |
| 16:34.27 | ragnarkon | break19: usually if the addon uses a library, it should have the library included with its folder, and you just have to read the folder name |
| 16:34.35 | chexsum__ | do a text search for ParserLib |
| 16:35.08 | ragnarkon | like anything with WoW ace should have the wowace 2.0 libraries in with the addon's folder |
| 16:35.12 | break19 | ragnarkon: dude.. let me explain the whole point of no-ext.. it means DONT include the libs, download em as separate mods. :p |
| 16:35.59 | break19 | the only folder in my addons folder that has AceAddon-2.0 is my Ace2 folder.. yet a good portion of my addons use Ace2 :P |
| 16:36.14 | ragnarkon | break19: OH gotcha. Then if you open the lua file of the addon, in the first two dozen lines of code it should have something about the library in it. |
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| 16:37.04 | break19 | on this laptop I use, HD space is at a premium, with a tiny little 60GB hard drive (god.. I -never- thought in a million years I'd refer to a 60gig hd as 'tiny' but there ya go) |
| 16:37.17 | lawlinternet | lawl, internet |
| 16:37.19 | break19 | so I dont like having multiple copies of the exact same files :) |
| 16:37.31 | Ellipsis | break19: babies plz? |
| 16:37.32 | break19 | Ellipsis: mean. :P |
| 16:37.46 | break19 | Ellipsis: babies? 'splain |
| 16:37.58 | break19 | Ellipsis: mean. :P <- referred to alar's update :P |
| 16:37.58 | Ellipsis | as in have mine |
| 16:38.07 | break19 | lol, my wife may have a problem with that. :) |
| 16:38.27 | Ellipsis | I won't tell her if you won't! :) |
| 16:38.31 | break19 | heh |
| 16:39.29 | Keias | I'm totally telling. |
| 16:39.47 | break19 | she'd find out.. she's good at that, and when she does, the world will need to support 2 less people.. as she'd cremate us both. lol |
| 16:39.57 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower|ZZzz wake up |
| 16:39.58 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:40.03 | ragnarkon | break19: yeah, then just open the first lua file of the addon and somewhere around the beginning it should have a line thats like ' local L = AceLibrary("Aceblabla-2.0"):new("blabla") ' |
| 16:40.03 | ragnarkon | thus, that addon uses ace |
| 16:40.22 | NivFreak | soo |
| 16:40.24 | NivFreak | I was asking last night |
| 16:40.32 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: how about you go to sleep instead, amirite |
| 16:40.42 | NivFreak | I one saw a nice mod that handled announcing magtheridon cube clickers |
| 16:40.50 | NivFreak | anyone know what it was? |
| 16:40.53 | Zergreth | alright, thanks for all the help :) i gotta go, see ya |
| 16:41.04 | break19 | ragnarkon: I've written several ace2 and ace3 addons, I already know that.. I'm attempting to do it programmatically, so I dont -have- to open each and every file to look for AceLibrary/LibStub references.. |
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| 16:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 16:41.36 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone have ANY idea |
| 16:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | why my Talented frame won't open anymore? |
| 16:41.53 | break19 | I have about 20 .toc files I'd have to look at manually, to see.. |
| 16:41.57 | xyu` | You're not very talented? |
| 16:42.00 | xyu` | harharhahrahr! |
| 16:42.01 | Ellipsis | ...perhaps something related to your touching yourself at night? |
| 16:42.20 | sag_ich_nicht | it was working just fine yesterday |
| 16:42.20 | xyu` | Full of winners today |
| 16:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:42.23 | break19 | I guess my best option is to turn Spotlight back in, have it index the addons folder and search for the libs that way.. |
| 16:42.51 | NivFreak | nm, the mod is called OMA |
| 16:42.58 | chexsum__ | just do a text search of the files |
| 16:42.58 | ragnarkon | break19: ohhh... so trying to create an addon that checks which libs & libs version it uses? |
| 16:42.59 | Ellipsis | break19: what are you trying to do exactly? figure out which libs you don't need anymore? |
| 16:44.18 | kagaro | break19: sed/grep |
| 16:44.49 | break19 | Ellipsis: that, and figure out which addons are wanting jwu to download Parserlib :P |
| 16:45.06 | Ellipsis | break19: do you use SCT or eavesdrop? |
| 16:45.30 | break19 | Ellipsis: nope. |
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| 16:49.52 | Fisker- | Isn't it possible to make a mount macro that'll either use land mount or flying mount if possible? |
| 16:50.19 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 16:50.28 | Fisker- | do want |
| 16:50.39 | kergoth | isn't it [flyable] or somesuch? |
| 16:50.43 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 16:50.48 | Ellipsis | /cast [flyable] pretty birdie; shiny horsie |
| 16:51.14 | p3lim | is there a [flyable]?? |
| 16:51.16 | p3lim | holy crap |
| 16:51.16 | Fisker- | i don't got a pretty birdie or shiny horsie :o |
| 16:51.31 | [dRaCo] | too bad, then you wont be able to use that macro |
| 16:51.59 | Fisker- | :D |
| 16:52.23 | Fisker- | does that one dismount btw? |
| 16:52.59 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:54.05 | Ellipsis | you could do a /stopmacro [flying] as the first line to prevent getting dismounted in midair, if you have autodismount in flight on |
| 16:54.34 | p3lim | ./dismount [noflying] |
| 16:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:44] <break19> Ellipsis: that, and figure out which addons are wanting jwu to download Parserlib :P <--you could just put parserlib on ignore, libparser-3.0 has a compatibility layer |
| 16:55.43 | sag_ich_nicht | or what are you doing |
| 16:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 16:56.16 | j10jep2 | sup peeps |
| 16:56.17 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 16:56.24 | sag_ich_nicht | libparser-4.0 i mean |
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| 16:57.02 | j10jep2 | anyone having trouble updating atlasloot, sraidframes, and recount from the updater? |
| 16:57.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:57.13 | sag_ich_nicht | you fail |
| 16:57.17 | j10jep2 | crap |
| 16:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | rawr |
| 16:57.34 | sag_ich_nicht | give it to me :> |
| 16:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 16:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone that has any of these not on ignore in WAU and deleted from their system is wasting space and resources anyway: abacuslib crayonlib gratuitylib jostlelib parser-3.0 parserlib touristlib |
| 16:57.58 | j10jep2 | i keep getting an "error during update" error and it wont tell me whats wrong, it just keeps retrying |
| 16:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 16:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | press F5 |
| 16:58.16 | Chaud | Could someone check and see if http://www.logmein.com is online? In a campus lab and it won't load =\ |
| 16:58.40 | RagnarKon | Chaud: its online |
| 16:58.44 | Chaud | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.47 | j10jep2 | me press f5? |
| 16:58.53 | Chaud | I guess they blocked it somehow |
| 16:58.59 | RagnarKon | Takes me to https://secure.logmein.com/home.asp?lang=en |
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| 16:59.08 | Chaud | yeah, The connection has timed out =( |
| 16:59.18 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: regarding putting parserlib on ignore.. the updater I use only ignores currently installed addons |
| 16:59.28 | Chaud | Hmm, but that URL works! |
| 16:59.38 | j10jep2 | so can anyone tell me whats wrong with my updater? |
| 16:59.40 | Chaud | Really odd, but <3 |
| 16:59.42 | Ellipsis | break19: doesn't it at least ignore folders with .svn dirs? |
| 16:59.53 | Ellipsis | j10jep2: #wau |
| 16:59.57 | break19 | Ellipsis: yea.. thats how I have it done right now anway :p |
| 17:00.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'd just make an empty parserlib dir with .svn in it |
| 17:00.21 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar 072.4 * r63588 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua): Prat: Couple more scope changes |
| 17:00.25 | break19 | I am just bored however, and am looking to actually update my local copies of the addons.. :) |
| 17:00.25 | Fisker- | [noflying] or [noflyable] doesn't work here :( |
| 17:00.43 | break19 | meh, scope? listerine is better |
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| 17:01.12 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: you're doing it wrong |
| 17:01.22 | Fisker- | no u |
| 17:01.27 | Chaud | and now it is timing out again....wtf |
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| 17:02.39 | break19 | Ellipsis: besides, I do it for kicks, and learning. I'm a horrible Lua nooblet.. and reading the pil does nothing for me. I have to read -code- in order to 'get it' :) |
| 17:03.34 | break19 | most of my addons are fairly simple things, or rewrites, or based off other things.. even my largest one (which is now made obsolete by changes to MSBT right after I wrote it) uses elements of other addons.. :) |
| 17:04.10 | break19 | and I -hate- multiple lua-file addons.. drives me nuts :p |
| 17:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | noob |
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| 17:05.07 | break19 | yes? |
| 17:05.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean |
| 17:05.15 | break19 | see.. I know my name.. |
| 17:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | unlike you, i know how2code perfectly well, i just don't know the lua syntax and am too lazy to learn it, or the WoW API :P |
| 17:05.53 | RagnarKon | Its okay break19, trying to learn Lua after years of C++, kinda lost myself with Lua syntax |
| 17:06.17 | RagnarKon | I feel ur pain |
| 17:07.21 | RagnarKon | catch myself making { } brackets all the time, apparently not really needed in lua |
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| 17:09.02 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: I'll be 100% honest with you.. when I was 7yrs old, I wrote a 2,000+ line game, for the C64, in BASIC. since then, I've been mostly a 'script' type coder.. bash, .bat, mircscripts, etc.. but that "Battleship 2000" I wrote when I was a kid.. man.. I was so proud of it.. had graphics, and sound.. you were the captain of an ultra-modern battleship, and had 20" guns, forward and aft torpedos, flak cannons.. and you had to destro |
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| 17:10.22 | sag_ich_nicht | break19: oO |
| 17:10.43 | sag_ich_nicht | that's great, but that's it, you only know BASIC syntax and scripting language syntax |
| 17:10.44 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:10.56 | break19 | looking back, it was really simple.. you simply selected which weapon to fire based upon the enemy attacking you.. and he had a chance to hit you, and you had a change to hit him.. three hits by an enemy and you died.. lol |
| 17:11.32 | break19 | but the weapon fire was animated and had sounds to go with it.. and that was cool. :) |
| 17:12.55 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: actually, i've also taken C (not C++, just regular C) when I was taking classes at the local community college years ago.. but yea.. I'm mostly an interpreted language coder, not compiled languages. |
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| 17:13.22 | nevcairiel | now how the language gets executed doesnt really matter =P |
| 17:13.45 | break19 | nev, true. :) |
| 17:13.52 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: no but scripting languages make you write something like |
| 17:14.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if a and b and c and d then |
| 17:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | like this: |
| 17:14.05 | nevcairiel | you can use D as a scripting language |
| 17:14.07 | sag_ich_nicht | if a then |
| 17:14.09 | sag_ich_nicht | if b then |
| 17:14.10 | sag_ich_nicht | if c then |
| 17:14.12 | sag_ich_nicht | if d then |
| 17:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | which is horrible |
| 17:14.25 | nevcairiel | which scripting language does that? :P |
| 17:14.33 | nevcairiel | all i know can do logical and |
| 17:14.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you haven't worked with DOS, have you? :> |
| 17:15.01 | sag_ich_nicht | you can only use GOTO as flow control |
| 17:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:15.07 | keiss | yet you present it like *all* scripting languages lack that .. |
| 17:15.09 | nevcairiel | that doesnt really count as a scripting language anymore, thats just plain "old" :P |
| 17:15.19 | Elsia_Row | DOS is hardly a scripting language, it's batch processing :P |
| 17:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | keiss: yeah, but scripting languages also lack stuff like arrays, tables, etc. |
| 17:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:15.52 | sag_ich_nicht | this was just one of the examples :P |
| 17:16.03 | nevcairiel | use bash script |
| 17:16.04 | nevcairiel | all you need |
| 17:16.16 | break19 | sag_ich_nicht: lua is a scripting language.. and supports arrays and tables |
| 17:16.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i dare you |
| 17:16.33 | nevcairiel | php is a scripting language too |
| 17:16.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i double dare you to write an operating system in bash scripting only, nevcairiel |
| 17:16.39 | nevcairiel | so is python and ruby |
| 17:16.41 | keiss | u generalize too much for my taste :) |
| 17:16.56 | sag_ich_nicht | keiss: protip: i'm a meta-troll |
| 17:17.13 | SunTsu | Isn't the word "mega"? ;) |
| 17:17.19 | Ellipsis | ^this |
| 17:17.19 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 17:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | meta is correct :> |
| 17:17.34 | SunTsu | I don't think so ;) |
| 17:17.35 | Xinhuan | javascript is a scripting langauge :) |
| 17:17.40 | Xinhuan | so is vbscript |
| 17:17.45 | nevcairiel | since _any_ scripting language needs a interpreter, the system i would write a OS in a scripting language for, would need to be able to interpret that. |
| 17:17.50 | Xinhuan | and even mIRC scripting is another scriptinglanguage |
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| 17:18.47 | Xinhuan | and almost all of these do support tables and arrays and stuff ;p |
| 17:18.56 | nevcairiel | obviously they do |
| 17:19.06 | thul | hmm |
| 17:19.08 | thul | hey ho, let's go |
| 17:19.10 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't be a language if they can't heh |
| 17:19.29 | Xinhuan | look at zMud's scripting language, its pretty cool too |
| 17:19.41 | Xinhuan | back when we used to play textbased MMO muds hehe |
| 17:19.42 | Adirelle | ~turing machine |
| 17:19.48 | Adirelle | or maybe it is |
| 17:19.54 | Adirelle | ~wikipedia turing machine |
| 17:20.14 | CIA-9 | 03xbeeps * r63589 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 17:20.14 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 17:20.14 | CIA-9 | - Remove the ClearLines as they seem to have no effect. |
| 17:20.14 | CIA-9 | - Fall back to line 3 of spell tooltip if there is no description in line 4. |
| 17:20.14 | CIA-9 | - Employ some extra logic to prevent any errors from popping up if the spell book scanning fails. |
| 17:20.24 | nevcairiel | dont get me started on turing machines |
| 17:20.31 | nevcairiel | i just wrote a exam on those |
| 17:20.35 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 17:21.22 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r63590 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: |
| 17:21.22 | CIA-9 | Cartographer: |
| 17:21.22 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 17:21.53 | Elsia_Row | imagine a lua that allows infinitely long tables, now prove that it's equivalent to turning machines ;) |
| 17:22.00 | break19 | Xinhuan: oh yea. I left that one out .. _LOVED_ zmud and zmud32 :) |
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| 17:24.35 | Elsia | would be fun when people start arguing about WoW addons using O notation :P |
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| 17:27.40 | jamil | Anyone interested in an account? |
| 17:27.44 | Fisker- | [2008/03/04 18:25:43-3108-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(Automaton_Repair): Translation "Use Guild Bank Funds" does not exist. |
| 17:27.44 | Fisker- | Automaton\modules\Repair.lua:49: in main chunk |
| 17:27.45 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 17:30.14 | nevcairiel | Elsia: been done :P |
| 17:30.47 | phyber | i should read things there more often. comedy :p |
| 17:31.01 | Kulaar | has the pitbull memory leak been fixed? |
| 17:31.08 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 17:31.25 | nevcairiel | you dont say |
| 17:32.10 | ckknight_ | yea, it was weird |
| 17:32.18 | ckknight_ | if you GameTooltip:SetOwner, it creates a leak |
| 17:32.28 | ckknight_ | PitBull was doing it roughly every frame |
| 17:33.07 | Elsia | how did you figure out it was that call? |
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| 17:33.39 | Elsia | nev: now to find an addon that is provably NP-complete |
| 17:34.14 | Arrowmaster | routes? |
| 17:34.34 | RagnarKon | Do you have to create a new frame before you place text on an AB button or am I just stupid? |
| 17:34.50 | Elsia | TSP isn't np-complete |
| 17:35.00 | nevcairiel | at least his algorithm not |
| 17:35.19 | nevcairiel | the NP-complete algorithms dont work for that complex routes tho =P |
| 17:35.21 | Elsia | though if he adds enough of those extra constraints it could become NP |
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| 17:36.19 | Elsia | anyway gotta grab food |
| 17:36.30 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 17:36.33 | nevcairiel | i should do that too |
| 17:37.45 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 17:38.04 | Xinhuan | making a np-complete algo isn't tough, but its execution time would be so long it isn't practical to do so! |
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| 17:40.24 | Arrowmaster | sweet Ghosts I-IV flac version torrent up |
| 17:40.56 | Chompers | Ghosts is amazing |
| 17:41.12 | Chompers | some really awesome music on it |
| 17:41.20 | Arrowmaster | listening to 320kbps mp3 version right now |
| 17:41.22 | NeoTron | what is Ghosts? |
| 17:41.35 | Arrowmaster | ghosts.nin.com |
| 17:41.45 | NeoTron | ah nin |
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| 17:44.40 | Fisker- | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4059246/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Ghosts_I-IV_2008_320kbps_And_Extras if anyone wants it :o |
| 17:45.04 | Arrowmaster | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4061815/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Ghosts_I-IV_%5B2008_FLAC_Lossless%5D flac version with extras too |
| 17:45.09 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63591 10Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua: |
| 17:45.09 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0 |
| 17:45.09 | CIA-9 | - ACE-150: callback is now optional, if not supplied will use the eventname as method name (only possible if one event is supplied, and not a event table) |
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| 17:46.02 | NeoTron | AceBucket = why am I suddenly reminded of Chum Bucket and spongebob? |
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| 17:46.20 | Fisker- | I think i should obvious troll some boards with that link btw Arrowmaster |
| 17:46.31 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 17:47.00 | Fisker- | Because many people have the is going to go "lol warez" on links like that |
| 17:47.12 | Fisker- | and i can go like "lol pwnt by creative commons" |
| 17:47.16 | NeoTron | is it actually ok to disribute the full set? |
| 17:47.28 | kebinusan | no |
| 17:47.31 | Arrowmaster | its licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ |
| 17:47.33 | Arrowmaster | so yes |
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| 17:47.45 | kebinusan | is it? |
| 17:48.02 | NeoTron | well that certainly motivates me to 1) listen to it and 2) if I like it pay for it |
| 17:48.31 | NeoTron | amazing how something beint legally free wants to make me pay for it eh? weird concept |
| 17:48.45 | kebinusan | I tried to pay for the 5$ download, but the security code kept getting rejected |
| 17:48.53 | kebinusan | err the free one from their site |
| 17:49.02 | Arrowmaster | the website is majorly overloaded |
| 17:49.51 | Xinhuan | "This is a human-readable summary of the Legal Code (the full license)." |
| 17:49.52 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:50.06 | Xinhuan | the last part is a link |
| 17:50.25 | Groktar | what is an np algorithm? |
| 17:50.42 | Xinhuan | google/wikipedia --> that way :) |
| 17:50.51 | Arrowmaster | i ordered the Ultra Deluxe Limited Edition from ainr.com and havent even gotten a download key yet |
| 17:50.57 | Groktar | bah |
| 17:51.08 | kenlyric | enjoy your LPs |
| 17:51.21 | kenlyric | $300 seems like a lot for LPs |
| 17:51.27 | Arrowmaster | comes with 2cds 1dvd 1blueray too |
| 17:51.31 | Fisker- | kebinusan all 4 parts are licensed under that license |
| 17:51.39 | kenlyric | you can get those in the $75 one |
| 17:51.40 | Fisker- | they also uploaded all 4 parts to different torrent tracks |
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| 17:51.42 | Fisker- | trackers* |
| 17:52.05 | Fisker- | So it's just a matter of packing the whole deal |
| 17:52.35 | Arrowmaster | people are uploading the files they got from the official website |
| 17:52.51 | Fisker- | Whatever floats their boat :D |
| 17:53.02 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NP-complete |
| 17:53.05 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63592 10Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua: |
| 17:53.05 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0 |
| 17:53.05 | CIA-9 | - fix bug |
| 17:53.09 | kebinusan | it'll be just like in rainbows, their download site was completely screwed for quite a while |
| 17:53.38 | kenlyric | yeah, the torrented sharing is always better than the artists download site. |
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| 17:54.50 | CIA-9 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r63593 10Fortress/Fortress/ (. Core.lua Options.lua embeds.xml): |
| 17:54.50 | CIA-9 | Fortress: |
| 17:54.50 | CIA-9 | - added externals |
| 17:54.50 | CIA-9 | - implemented configuration |
| 17:54.53 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r63594 10GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: allow for a small step value in scale settings GMATE-5 |
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| 17:55.30 | kebinusan | mmm Hellsing Ultimate OVA Vol4 |
| 17:55.42 | Dyin95aturN | Anyone got a second to answer a question about TinyTip? |
| 17:57.25 | Dashkal | ~asktoask |
| 17:57.25 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:57.26 | Dyin95aturN | Trying to get into the options for tinytip and havent been able to with the standard slash commands, curious if im typing them in wrong or what it could be |
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| 18:02.17 | Dashkal | Nifty... I didn't know TinyTip so I nabbed it to peek about... I can't find the slashie code |
| 18:03.42 | NeoTron | Dashkal: |
| 18:03.45 | NeoTron | err oops |
| 18:04.05 | NeoTron | currently, I believe, you configure TinyTip on wowace via editing a file |
| 18:04.28 | Dashkal | Wait, isn't TT in the middle of a rewrite? |
| 18:04.28 | NeoTron | meaning the configuring for the new version is not yet done |
| 18:04.32 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:04.35 | Dyin95aturN | ahhh |
| 18:04.36 | Dashkal | ahh, that splains it |
| 18:04.40 | Dyin95aturN | got ya ok |
| 18:04.45 | NeoTron | TT itself works, but there's no config UI yet |
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| 18:05.15 | Dyin95aturN | thank you for the info |
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| 18:09.28 | Dashkal | Meh, I want an addon "shadow" channel for custom channels. |
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| 18:10.23 | Dashkal | How does one "consume" messages coming in on a custom channel without interfering with other mods like Prat? |
| 18:10.57 | sb | nevcairiel: could you implement some 'save actionbar content' function in bt4? its soo annoying to reorganize your bars after re-speccing |
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| 18:12.09 | NeoTron | I'd love a way to save action bar layouts in general |
| 18:12.20 | sb | i tried Shadowed's action bar saver |
| 18:12.22 | NeoTron | specific examples being "pvp" and "raid" for example |
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| 18:12.26 | sb | but it screwed up everything :p |
| 18:12.31 | Shadowed | You probably failed |
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| 18:12.35 | MentalPower|Food | Dashkal: you don't "consume" |
| 18:12.36 | sb | yup, think so :p |
| 18:12.40 | Shadowed | it's worked fine for me after using it like 100 times |
| 18:12.43 | MentalPower|Food | you just register for the event |
| 18:13.02 | Shadowed | If you change macros around or delete/add them then it can mess it up |
| 18:13.05 | MentalPower|Food | and hook the chatframe's error handlers to prevent them from seeing that channel |
| 18:13.31 | Shadowed | or if you do a restore before learning new ranks, then it won't find them in the spellbook and can't restore it |
| 18:13.52 | Dashkal | MentalPower|Food: Ahh, so all I do is nab the message as normal and make it hidden by default? |
| 18:14.17 | sylvanaar_work | why not just hide the channel |
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| 18:14.40 | Dashkal | sylvanaar_work: Works for me. Long as the user doesn't get constantly spammed unless the _want_ to be for some reason. |
| 18:14.46 | Dashkal | they* |
| 18:15.07 | sylvanaar_work | you know you can uncheck the channel from the list of displayed channel in the default ui |
| 18:15.53 | Dashkal | I need to do it programatically. I'm using custom channels to allow cross-guild communication in Nexus (support for raid alliances and such) |
| 18:16.49 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 18:18.21 | sb | Shadowed: yup - i did that, used befor learning new ranks |
| 18:18.28 | Shadowed | Well, theres your problem :p |
| 18:18.29 | sb | and from that point it was totally screwed up :o |
| 18:18.37 | Shadowed | You can always do a restore after learning new ranks |
| 18:18.41 | Shadowed | I'd probably disable auto saving |
| 18:19.09 | Shadowed | but if you restore before learning new ranks, you can do it again once you learn them fine unless you saved that profile again |
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| 18:20.28 | NeoTron | so what is this addon and does it allow different profiles? |
| 18:20.44 | sb | would you mind creating some BT4 module? i think only some people know about ABS :p and with bt4 you wont also have that relearn-spell problem anymore since 2.4 will be out ;) |
| 18:21.06 | NeoTron | man that relearn thing is nice |
| 18:21.15 | sylvanaar_work | Dashkal you can see how its done in FCFChannelDropDown_OnClick |
| 18:21.39 | sb | NeoTron: yes :p |
| 18:22.12 | Dashkal | sylvanaar_work: danke |
| 18:22.31 | Dashkal | Thats in the default code? |
| 18:22.38 | Dashkal | wem, blizzard code? |
| 18:22.42 | sylvanaar_work | FloatingChatFrame |
| 18:22.50 | Dashkal | cannot type this morning... *waits for coffee to kick in* |
| 18:23.56 | sb | oh |
| 18:23.58 | sb | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/badgegem_small.jpg |
| 18:24.29 | NivFreak | does anyone know how you get the new Alchemist Stones yet? |
| 18:24.34 | sb | no idea |
| 18:24.35 | Dashkal | sb: *blink* wow |
| 18:24.47 | sb | i think its going to be some rep reward |
| 18:25.07 | Dashkal | Speaking as a kara scrub... That actually makes me kinda sad. I like that there were still minor things you _had_ to 25 for |
| 18:25.33 | NivFreak | just another 225 badges I need now |
| 18:25.35 | NivFreak | sigh |
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| 18:28.30 | Shadowed | NeoTron: It's simple, you save a profile using /abs save <name> and it saves the current action/macro/item setup, type /abs restore <name> to restore it |
| 18:28.51 | Shadowed | it just uses a global DB, so you can pretty much use it between different chars of the same class, or going to tournament realm to speed up setting things up |
| 18:29.18 | Dotted | vhaarr ping |
| 18:29.37 | Shadowed | I probably should fix the macro issue but i'm lazy |
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| 18:30.39 | Dashkal | Meh. Intel 3d drivers for linux... not the most stable |
| 18:31.15 | Dashkal | alt-sysrq shouldn't be the only way out of a lockup of X |
| 18:32.22 | CIA-9 | 03phyber * r63595 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 18:32.22 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 18:32.22 | CIA-9 | - Repair: Added the missing translations. |
| 18:36.03 | CIA-9 | 03phyber * r63596 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 18:36.03 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 18:36.03 | CIA-9 | - Repair: Fixed the 'db' errors. |
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| 18:38.04 | NeoTron | Shadowed: interesting |
| 18:38.22 | vhaarr | Dotted: pong |
| 18:38.30 | CIA-9 | 03eblume * r63597 10Socialist/ (. Socialist.toc): Socialist: Initial creation of the project. |
| 18:38.42 | NeoTron | so you'd have to save like /abs save warlockraid, lockpvp etc if you want class specific - or have names if you roll that way |
| 18:39.13 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how's your marking mod coming? |
| 18:39.33 | Dotted | vhaarr the guild ranks filter, if i uncheck say rank "Alt" will it ignore whispers from those ranks, or just "mains" that are ranked as "Alt"? |
| 18:40.35 | chexsum__ | so repentance doesnt break on dmg now huh |
| 18:41.04 | vhaarr | Dotted: I don't understand that question |
| 18:41.18 | vhaarr | Dotted: if you uncheck "Alt", guild members of that rank will not be added to the attendance sets |
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| 18:41.59 | Dashkal | chexsum__: wait what? I thought that was the trick to that fight... |
| 18:42.00 | Dotted | ok so if an "alt"'ed ranked member whisper his mains nick, he will get added? |
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| 18:42.36 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:43.36 | Civrock | What was the addon again which forces all addons to use the same texture? And does it work with LSM3? |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-9 | 03shamino * r63598 10EnchantingSell/ (4 files): |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-9 | EnchantingSell: |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-9 | - fixed issue with Beast Training window, so it will now appear. |
| 18:44.03 | CIA-9 | - updated fubar/minimap options for opening. (shift, alt) |
| 18:44.11 | vhaarr | !SurfaceControl |
| 18:44.12 | NeoTron | NivFreak: current version is fully functional if not complete :) |
| 18:44.15 | vhaarr | and no, it does not work with LSM3 |
| 18:44.21 | vhaarr | but you can easily add support |
| 18:44.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: link me again :) |
| 18:44.23 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: gief then! :> |
| 18:44.25 | Civrock | Ah, thanks. |
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| 18:44.28 | NeoTron | NivFreak: has configuration of mobs/raid icons and priority based marking of said mobs |
| 18:44.35 | NivFreak | nice :) |
| 18:44.39 | NivFreak | I want to try it out this week |
| 18:44.41 | NeoTron | http://files.wowace.com/MagicMarker >:-) |
| 18:44.43 | CIA-9 | 03cinedelle * r63599 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 18:44.43 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 18:44.43 | CIA-9 | - frFR update of the Repair.lua file |
| 18:44.47 | NivFreak | NeoTron: awesome! |
| 18:44.58 | NeoTron | also see http://wowace.com/wiki/Magic_Marker |
| 18:45.09 | NivFreak | zomg docs |
| 18:45.23 | NeoTron | it's not much more than a mirror of the README.txt file but alas :P |
| 18:45.29 | Gnarfoz | * NeoTron gains god mode |
| 18:45.36 | syrae | Everyone in here doing development, you guys are my heroes. In particular, Antiarc, thanks for putting together several of the addons I use and love, and thanks for making Omen more spiffy. ckknight, thanks for all the cool FuBar and Cartographer goodness. kergoth, I poke thee with a stick... and now, syrae away! |
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| 18:45.45 | NivFreak | do we get a tie in with mobnotes next? :) |
| 18:45.56 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:45.59 | CIA-9 | 03odlaw * r63600 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 18:45.59 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: enUS additions |
| 18:45.59 | CIA-9 | - Armor SubTypes: Shields, Librams, Idols, Totems |
| 18:45.59 | CIA-9 | - Container: Leatherworking Bag |
| 18:45.59 | CIA-9 | - Weapon Types: Fishing Poles, Ranged |
| 18:46.00 | CIA-9 | - Consumable: Food & Drink, Potion, Elixir, Bandage, Item Enhancement, Scroll, Other |
| 18:46.04 | CIA-9 | - Trade Goods: Elemental, Metal & Stone, Meat, Herb |
| 18:46.17 | NeoTron | if mob notes get a usable API to query CC methods for a mob, I can hook into it for defaults when learning mobs |
| 18:46.26 | ckknight | I wanted more praise from syrae |
| 18:46.29 | NeoTron | but with MM you don't necessarily want to list ALL cc methods for a mob |
| 18:46.40 | NeoTron | you just want to list the ones your group/raid actually plan to use |
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| 18:46.49 | NeoTron | so if you never have hunters trap something, don't list it |
| 18:47.19 | NeoTron | I guess I could use the mobnotes description in the mob config page |
| 18:47.34 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/magic3.jpg |
| 18:47.41 | break19 | ckknight: fail |
| 18:47.50 | ckknight | ? |
| 18:47.59 | break19 | you didnt get enough praise.. you fail. |
| 18:48.00 | break19 | heh |
| 18:49.04 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/magic5.jpg for raid mark configuration. having made a "custom" widget (really, a modified ace3 drop down widget) I might make the ordered configuration more like I envisioned it (each line having an up/down/delete button) but what's there now works fine. |
| 18:49.07 | Chompers | does magicmarker learn what type of marks you use for mobs? |
| 18:49.15 | Chompers | so i could let it gather data for a few packs |
| 18:49.23 | Chompers | or is everything manual |
| 18:49.23 | phyber | ckk has slipped below 10% of the total commits to the SVN. tragic. |
| 18:49.34 | ckknight | this is tragic |
| 18:49.54 | NeoTron | Chompers: it doesn't learn marks, you specifically enter marks you want for each CC type/tank and then what kind of CC you want to use an a per mob basis |
| 18:50.06 | Chompers | hrm, probably safer |
| 18:50.19 | NeoTron | one-time configuration on what icons to use |
| 18:50.59 | Chompers | how does it handle hyjal waves? |
| 18:51.12 | NeoTron | however you want it to |
| 18:51.20 | NeoTron | relatively poorly now due to the non-unique names |
| 18:51.22 | NeoTron | 2.4 will be better |
| 18:51.31 | NeoTron | but typically you'd ignore most things in the waves |
| 18:52.31 | NeoTron | there's a 0.75 delay before you can mark mob B after marking mob A if they have the same name/gender |
| 18:54.22 | Xinhuan | phyber, what is my %? :D |
| 18:55.29 | phyber | Xinhuan: 1.11%. 14th place. |
| 18:55.46 | Xinhuan | o_O thats a lot |
| 18:56.33 | kagaro | phyber: where are you reading that from or just runing a status app |
| 18:56.33 | phyber | I'm reading it from my trac. I made a query to give me those stats :) |
| 18:58.13 | NeoTron | Fisker-: /cry |
| 18:58.58 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 19:01.50 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: where's that delay from? Blizzard API enforced? |
| 19:02.48 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: there's a delay between when I set the mark and when can query it |
| 19:02.57 | NeoTron | network latency I guess |
| 19:03.00 | NivFreak | I'm excited about this ;) |
| 19:03.09 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r63601 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Blizz/Blizz.lua: |
| 19:03.10 | CIA-9 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 19:03.10 | CIA-9 | -Blizz: Degrey the ?s in gossips for quests with no objectives. |
| 19:03.15 | NeoTron | I am not sure how long the delay needs to be - perhaps I can make it configurable. I asume with better network latency it's faster |
| 19:03.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: one thing you could do, is display the mobnote in your frame for configuration |
| 19:03.32 | NivFreak | so that people could reference it out of raid |
| 19:03.33 | NeoTron | yeah => 10:47 < NeoTron> I guess I could use the mobnotes description in the mob config page |
| 19:03.34 | NivFreak | and get things set up |
| 19:03.38 | NivFreak | lol |
| 19:03.39 | NivFreak | ok |
| 19:03.51 | NivFreak | missed that, but great idea :) |
| 19:04.06 | NeoTron | should be easily added |
| 19:04.44 | NivFreak | are these lists populated on mouse over, or pre-populated with your addon? |
| 19:05.11 | NeoTron | not prepopulated (yet at least) |
| 19:05.18 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: wiki still says "limiting to as many CC per type as player available to cast that type of CC" is still "to do", but your screen shot shows text that says it's done and already in there? |
| 19:05.20 | NeoTron | data is locale dependant now |
| 19:05.41 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: I think it's manually specified atm |
| 19:05.55 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: believe the wiki >:-) |
| 19:05.57 | Gnarfoz | I should probably just log in and see for myself :> |
| 19:06.07 | NeoTron | I didn't even realize I had entered that into the IG docs |
| 19:06.08 | Gnarfoz | so I have to, like, manually set how many mages we've got? |
| 19:06.13 | NivFreak | apparently I installed my first Ace3 addon |
| 19:06.17 | NeoTron | it doesn't take that into account yet |
| 19:06.19 | CIA-9 | 03eblume * r63602 10Socialist/ (. README): |
| 19:06.19 | CIA-9 | Socialist |
| 19:06.19 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.19 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.21 | Gnarfoz | or will it just keep marking mobs for sheeping |
| 19:06.25 | NeoTron | that |
| 19:06.28 | NeoTron | it's next on my TODO |
| 19:06.44 | NivFreak | ah |
| 19:06.47 | NeoTron | likely won't get to it until thursday |
| 19:06.48 | NivFreak | that'd be pretty useful ;) |
| 19:06.49 | Gnarfoz | I'd think that's necessary to make it useful at all |
| 19:06.58 | NivFreak | I assumed that was there now |
| 19:06.59 | NeoTron | raid nights start tonight |
| 19:07.10 | m4rku5 | anyone know whats with allakhazam ? |
| 19:07.14 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so are the mobs added on mouse over, or manually? |
| 19:07.25 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: not necessary, you can limit the nmber of marks for a method based on the raid group relatively easily |
| 19:07.33 | NeoTron | NivFreak: mouseover |
| 19:07.37 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: just tell whoever marks your mobs for your raid about your addon, they'll probably bug you until you go insane about adding that feature :D |
| 19:07.57 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: that would be me >:-) |
| 19:08.02 | Gnarfoz | durrrrrrrr |
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| 19:08.26 | NeoTron | but yes I am bugging me constantly to fix that feature |
| 19:08.28 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: hm... I think I'm misunderstanding you because I think I've now got both a "yes" and a "no" to my question, but I'll just log in later and check ;) |
| 19:09.00 | NeoTron | so it will insert new mobs if you mouse over while holding ALT or if you directly target them |
| 19:09.15 | NeoTron | note that right now it does this regarldess of location, so any mob you target will be added >:-) |
| 19:09.19 | NeoTron | yes that is a misfeature |
| 19:09.27 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 19:09.29 | NivFreak | alt is my vent key |
| 19:09.32 | NivFreak | that could get interesting |
| 19:09.33 | NivFreak | :) |
| 19:09.44 | NeoTron | note> make the key configurable |
| 19:09.50 | NivFreak | :) |
| 19:09.55 | NeoTron | like Alt, Shift or Ctrl |
| 19:10.05 | NivFreak | just put it in the keybindings menu |
| 19:10.11 | NivFreak | so I can bind pause to it or something |
| 19:10.15 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:10.27 | NeoTron | can you bind a modifier key? |
| 19:12.08 | NeoTron | to be clear, it's fully functional but definitely not done :P |
| 19:13.09 | NeoTron | I admit if I could afford it I'd change cars often too :) |
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| 19:16.24 | NeoTron | man love mistells >:-) |
| 19:16.57 | ckknight | NeoTron: I put on my robe and wizard hat |
| 19:17.21 | Gnarfoz | I can only ever remember that first line of it ~_~ |
| 19:18.28 | NeoTron | ckknight: lol |
| 19:20.06 | ulic | NeoTron: I don't see 'Sap' listed in the config, is that intentional? |
| 19:20.44 | Primer | yes, he hates rogues |
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| 19:21.13 | Primer | see the Changelog: "I don't allow rogues in my raid, so Sap isn't an option" |
| 19:21.15 | Pkekyo| | xD |
| 19:21.23 | ulic | hehe |
| 19:21.46 | ckknight | what addon? |
| 19:21.56 | Pkekyo| | your face! :O |
| 19:22.00 | ulic | saps might not get used as much in 25-mans but in 5-mans. |
| 19:22.07 | ulic | ckknight: MagicMarker |
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| 19:22.13 | ckknight | ah |
| 19:22.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:23.54 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63603 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): MagicMarker: Added Sap CC method. |
| 19:24.43 | Xinhuan | you forgot the "fear kite" option LOLOLOL |
| 19:24.46 | Xinhuan | damn op locks |
| 19:24.58 | Xinhuan | or the mage slow kiting option |
| 19:24.59 | ulic | he has fear in there |
| 19:25.03 | ulic | I think |
| 19:25.08 | NivFreak | We use fear a lot in TK |
| 19:25.16 | NivFreak | if your locks aren't retarded, it works well ;) |
| 19:25.18 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63604 10MagicMarker/Config.lua: MagicMarker: Oops. Also increased NUMCC with 1 to account for Sap. |
| 19:25.30 | NeoTron | I have Fear and I have Kite |
| 19:25.41 | NeoTron | figured that'd be sufficient :P |
| 19:25.44 | NivFreak | there should be 25 raid marks imo |
| 19:25.45 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 19:25.51 | Xinhuan | lua> 706.0044 |
| 19:25.51 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 706.0044 |
| 19:25.54 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 19:25.59 | NivFreak | NeoTron: can I add players to magicmarker? :) |
| 19:26.10 | NeoTron | No players :P |
| 19:26.14 | NivFreak | aww |
| 19:26.23 | Xinhuan | i frequently mark players in a raid if they are important enough to be marked |
| 19:26.23 | NeoTron | although I was thinking it would be nice to be able to mark players with it too |
| 19:26.31 | NivFreak | it would be |
| 19:26.31 | Xinhuan | eg, warlock tank at illidan/leotheras |
| 19:26.33 | NeoTron | sort of a different functionality |
| 19:26.36 | Stanzilla | like mages on archi |
| 19:26.50 | Xinhuan | eg2: group leaders in certain fights to indicate standing position |
| 19:26.55 | NeoTron | yep |
| 19:26.56 | NivFreak | so if I manually mark something, it won't reuse the mark, correct? |
| 19:27.01 | NeoTron | I see the use case |
| 19:27.01 | Xinhuan | eg3: all the healers in anetheron - so they can spread out |
| 19:27.13 | NeoTron | it's a nice TODO |
| 19:27.30 | Xinhuan | a good case is at illidan, if you use 4 group positions |
| 19:27.32 | Xinhuan | for p2 |
| 19:27.40 | Xinhuan | its common to mark 4 group leaders |
| 19:27.55 | vithos | yeah, we do that too |
| 19:27.57 | NeoTron | we do yes |
| 19:28.02 | Gnarfoz | could probably use a "use these marks" list |
| 19:28.06 | NeoTron | you don't have to convince me :) |
| 19:28.11 | Gnarfoz | check/uncheck which ones it's allowed to use for marking |
| 19:28.33 | NeoTron | might be a good idea |
| 19:28.34 | Killmore | any docs on MagicMarker NeoTron ? |
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| 19:28.48 | NeoTron | only http://wowace.com/wiki/Magic_Marker |
| 19:28.54 | Killmore | ok |
| 19:33.08 | NeoTron | added some more todo's on the wiki page based on player marking etc |
| 19:34.08 | Gnarfoz | hmmmmm anyone with deDE here who's killing Gorefiend? WTB some of his shouts translated :< |
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| 19:35.29 | NeoTron | blood boil auto-mark plugin.. :P |
| 19:35.41 | NeoTron | mark g1, 2, 3 when it's their turn to eat the boil |
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| 19:36.25 | Gnarfoz | sounds like Orion's Maghteridon Assistant |
| 19:36.27 | NeoTron | maybe I should think about a way to make it pluggable |
| 19:36.36 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: it's be something like that |
| 19:36.39 | Gnarfoz | marks 5 cube clickers... then the other 5... then the first 5 again |
| 19:37.08 | NeoTron | it could be smart -> mark G1,G2,G3 (or whatever groups you configured) |
| 19:37.08 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: neat idea, but do raid setup based limiting first ;D |
| 19:37.27 | NeoTron | if a person is dead in one of those groups, pick another suitable player automatically |
| 19:37.31 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 19:37.55 | NeoTron | the TODO list isn't organized in priority but limiting CC methods based on the group/raid setup is clearly top contended |
| 19:37.56 | Gnarfoz | I wish I could help, but your code is probably full of win and awesome and I will not understand shit of what's actually going on ^^ |
| 19:38.03 | NeoTron | maybe behind "making automarking only work in instnaces" |
| 19:38.15 | NeoTron | because having it add every single mob you ever target ... :) |
| 19:38.20 | NeoTron | hah |
| 19:38.34 | NeoTron | it's full of "hmm, wonder how this works" |
| 19:38.36 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de appease |
| 19:38.37 | Azurewrath | Gnarfoz: They should be listed in the Gorefiend BigWigs Module |
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| 19:39.13 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: it might make sense as a BigWigs_GorefiendHelper type addon |
| 19:39.25 | NeoTron | but it's sort of overkill base bigwigs functionality |
| 19:39.28 | Gnarfoz | Azurewrath: hm are they triggers for something? I'll have a look. but if they're triggers, it can't really be all of them, there's not as many events going as he's got different shouts ^^ |
| 19:39.43 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: although I guess you meant his speeches :P |
| 19:39.51 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: nah, he was answering my question in regards to deDE yells |
| 19:39.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:39.55 | Azurewrath | oh mhm.. you're right.. i'm a bit sleepy atm |
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| 19:40.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's just "Vengeance is mine" |
| 19:40.39 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 19:40.40 | purl | 2008.03.04 19:40:40 GMT, or the fourth dimension |
| 19:40.42 | Gnarfoz | good call though |
| 19:40.48 | Pkekyo| | meh, should go to bed |
| 19:41.06 | Gnarfoz | I'll see if someone remembers ;> |
| 19:41.23 | Gnarfoz | writing kill shot story posts sucks xD |
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| 20:03.38 | NeoTron | made a topic for MagicMarker: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11748.0 |
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| 20:12.05 | Gnarfoz | you DIDN'T! |
| 20:12.11 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
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| 20:14.09 | vhaarr | NeoTron: on the wiki TODO you listed "Block use of oRA2 specific raid icon when engaged in a boss fight.", you mean bigwigs, right? |
| 20:14.55 | kergoth | jesus, somebody smack the NiHau guy for me |
| 20:15.31 | vhaarr | NeoTron: In any case you can easily get the configured BW icon with BigWigs:GetModule("Raid Icons").db.profile.icon (integer index of the icon to use) and the DB key .place, a boolean saying if the raidicon module is enabled or not |
| 20:16.02 | kergoth | instead of registering the CHAT_MSG events properly, he hooks the chatframe message event handler and hooks the addmessages and shit |
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| 20:16.14 | kergoth | also, "self:RegisterAllEvents("OnEvent") |
| 20:16.14 | kergoth | " |
| 20:16.17 | NeoTron | vhaarr: indeed |
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| 20:16.22 | vhaarr | kergoth: what addon is this? |
| 20:16.41 | kergoth | NiHau, its an addon to show you money/hr base don the vendor/auction values of what you loot over a period of time |
| 20:16.46 | vhaarr | aha |
| 20:16.53 | kergoth | good concept, but yikes |
| 20:16.56 | vhaarr | I'm betting that addon is the cause of the problems reported the last few days |
| 20:17.00 | vhaarr | the :RegisterAllEvents |
| 20:17.04 | ccKep | woshh |
| 20:17.28 | NeoTron | kergoth: so.. like KTM? :) |
| 20:17.38 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:18.21 | kergoth | really, nihau's functionality could be easily added to something like garbagefu... speaking of which, someone should do a new garbagefu |
| 20:18.47 | NeoTron | reminds me I need to a warlock addon a friend recommended |
| 20:19.09 | durcyn | why the devil would you need a "warlock addon" |
| 20:19.15 | shanesveller | kergoth: what don't you like about garbagefu as it is now? |
| 20:19.32 | NeoTron | Forte Warlock |
| 20:19.41 | durcyn | forte is garbage |
| 20:19.43 | NeoTron | durcyn: track dots, cooldowns, raid healthstone status |
| 20:19.50 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: for future reference: '''text''' means [b]text[/b] in wiki formatting ;) fixed that for you on the MagicMarker wiki page |
| 20:19.54 | NeoTron | so is DoTimer |
| 20:19.55 | durcyn | NeoTron: quartz. hourglass. perfectraid/grid. |
| 20:20.08 | durcyn | or souljar if you don't want raidframes |
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| 20:20.20 | shanesveller | chronometer tracks dots as well |
| 20:20.27 | Gnarfoz | Forte is <3 |
| 20:20.29 | shanesveller | among others |
| 20:20.33 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: well.. I know that... :) |
| 20:20.36 | kergoth | for one, it's slow as hell at selling junk. another, i don't really like the way it handles the thresholds for what it considers garbage. the way it is now, one still has to, relatively regularly, destroy an item or two manually |
| 20:20.39 | EvilJohn- | isn't NiHao chinese |
| 20:20.43 | durcyn | forte makes me want to cut off my leg and beat the author |
| 20:20.44 | kergoth | i like dotimer personally.. curious about how the new necb will be though |
| 20:20.57 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yeah, but you still used [b] ;p |
| 20:20.57 | NeoTron | durcyn: DoTimer is the only addon I've tried that properly track dots on multiple target vs just target/focus type stuff |
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| 20:21.11 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: weird. :P |
| 20:21.14 | vhaarr | kergoth: I use teks tekJunkSeller, it's perfect |
| 20:21.17 | durcyn | NeoTron: eh, i find my tab key to be more useful |
| 20:21.33 | NeoTron | admittedly my needs now aren't very great being destruction lock |
| 20:21.35 | vhaarr | kergoth: just sells all your grey items and nothing else |
| 20:21.44 | NeoTron | I can do without using just the enlarged X-Perl debuff icons |
| 20:21.49 | shanesveller | kergoth: i agree. could the first be due to merchant constraints? can you sell multiple items simultaneously? |
| 20:21.54 | kergoth | well, the nice thing with garbagefu is you can destroy the cheapest item at a click, when you run low on inventory space. seemed silly to use a seperate junk selling addon when it already had that functionality, but maybe i'll do that |
| 20:22.01 | vhaarr | shanesveller: yes you can |
| 20:22.03 | durcyn | NeoTron: on the extremely rare condition that i have both a banish and a fear up and my focus is unavailable, i use this nifty thing i call LibBrain-1.0 |
| 20:22.10 | NeoTron | but still, a simple thing like not overloading my inventory with soul shards = win |
| 20:22.28 | NeoTron | durcyn: LibBrain-1.0 is inaccurate |
| 20:22.35 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: mind if I add the screenshots you linked earlier to the wiki page? |
| 20:22.45 | shanesveller | i use garbagefu to vendor white items that aren't worth auctioning, so it's not just grey items i sell |
| 20:22.48 | NeoTron | no although they aren't final :P |
| 20:23.00 | shanesveller | can you configure tekjunkseller to sell other items than just greys? |
| 20:23.01 | NeoTron | but can always change them |
| 20:23.05 | Gnarfoz | LibBrain-1.0 is fail in raids. It kills people regularly. |
| 20:23.07 | vhaarr | shanesveller: no |
| 20:23.34 | shanesveller | then i have to agree with kergoth regarding seperate addons for redundant functionality |
| 20:23.34 | NeoTron | durcyn: still we can agree that we disagree on the requirements we have for debuff timers :) |
| 20:23.42 | durcyn | NeoTron: suppose so. |
| 20:23.51 | NeoTron | and it's not too hard to be more efficient / better than DoTimer |
| 20:23.54 | durcyn | NeoTron: still, forte is utter junk |
| 20:24.04 | NeoTron | might be |
| 20:24.12 | NeoTron | haven't looked at it so I wouldn't know |
| 20:24.43 | NeoTron | with 2.4 you could make an incredibly accurate debuff timer addon though |
| 20:24.47 | NeoTron | UnitGUID FTW |
| 20:26.04 | durcyn | you could eliminate improper refreshes of same-named mobs in something like chronometer, yes, but iirc precise information is only available for player/target/focus, n'est-ce pas? |
| 20:26.31 | NeoTron | chronomoter I think kept losing debuffs I knew was still up |
| 20:26.34 | NeoTron | making it useless |
| 20:26.49 | NeoTron | and you know 1) when you apply a debuff, 2) the duration |
| 20:26.49 | durcyn | well, it tried to clear bars when it saw fades |
| 20:26.54 | NeoTron | per unitguid |
| 20:27.08 | durcyn | once you turn that off it's far less painful |
| 20:27.11 | shanesveller | neotron: maybe it was clearing debuffs after the mob responsible died? |
| 20:27.41 | NeoTron | shanesveller: except there is no accurate way of knowing that pre-2.4 |
| 20:27.58 | NeoTron | not truly accurate that is |
| 20:28.20 | shanesveller | right. not saying it should be doing so, but that's a setting, that might be the cause of your disappearing debuff bars |
| 20:28.28 | NeoTron | that might be true yes |
| 20:28.49 | shanesveller | i've found it to be quirky, but not entirely enough to drop it |
| 20:29.04 | NeoTron | I can do ok today without a timer |
| 20:29.05 | kergoth | one thing i like about dotimer is its prominence module, for emphasizing certain timers |
| 20:29.15 | NeoTron | focus banish/fear + main target highlighted debuffs |
| 20:29.29 | NeoTron | kergoth: I never configured that part but yes that is a useful feature |
| 20:29.58 | NeoTron | my perspective is a bit skewed too since being raid leader I attemtp to pay attention to a lot of other things during the raid |
| 20:30.23 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: how is Forte utter junk? which other addon provides intelligent announcing (mob name/icon text) of soon-to-fade, broke-early banishes etc? that's just one part I quite like. and I'm a rogue. :< |
| 20:30.41 | Jaxon | I've found Chronometer to be handy for tracking things like Trap duration when other mods rely on active debuffs. |
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| 20:30.45 | NeoTron | it might be badly implemented |
| 20:30.59 | NeoTron | functionality, on paper, looks good. doesn't mean implementation is |
| 20:31.02 | Gnarfoz | zomg it's not ace'd? :> |
| 20:31.18 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: because not a single feature is useful. i don't care where you're summonning some random scrub to, i don't care what the timer on your damn cc is, and i sure as hell don't want annoying frames cluttering my screen |
| 20:31.21 | NeoTron | main issue I have with DoTimer is that it's CPU intensive |
| 20:31.23 | Gnarfoz | :D anyway, none of our warlocks are complaining, and they're whiny as hell :] |
| 20:31.29 | NeoTron | for no good reason it seems |
| 20:31.42 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: banish broke early? have a coke and a smile and recast it. |
| 20:31.47 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: well... I care what the timer on their CC is. |
| 20:31.49 | shanesveller | yeah. simple timer functionality shouldn't eat cpu |
| 20:32.02 | NeoTron | DoTimer is the anti-efficiency |
| 20:32.11 | shanesveller | something doing intense math, damage or threat meters, that i can see. but counting down? no. |
| 20:32.12 | NeoTron | I believe adding a lot of unnecessary layers |
| 20:32.17 | Gnarfoz | their banish breaking early means DEAD PLAYERS if not reacted to instantly. notification is win. |
| 20:32.30 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: meh, i play a warlock, and i can honestly say i've not onceu in three years had to give a shit what someone else's banish timer was |
| 20:32.31 | NeoTron | calling some "lookup" functions A LOT (like Ash_Core:GetSomeVariable 20 times per frame) |
| 20:33.07 | NeoTron | durcyn: so basically you think forte is crap because you personally dont' like the functionality it provides? |
| 20:33.22 | durcyn | NeoTron: i think it's crap because it spams raid, tbh |
| 20:33.27 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: durr.... well, if you're banishing something yourself at the same time, it might be worthless for you. if your banish however is free, you could help out. or a tank could pick it up. |
| 20:33.48 | Gnarfoz | your banish spell, that is |
| 20:33.50 | NeoTron | a simple things like banishing coming out soon would be invaluable for me to know as a raid leader |
| 20:33.54 | NeoTron | when you have 4 banished mobs |
| 20:33.55 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: i suppose it could be useful for the special-ed types, i'll allow that |
| 20:34.13 | NeoTron | then I could say "rebanish star and diamond, leave moon and circle out" |
| 20:34.20 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: exactly. BT is fun. rapid fire satyr guys after supremus ;D |
| 20:34.46 | NeoTron | not knowing other's banish timers now is really a drawback |
| 20:35.03 | NeoTron | and the "sharing" in DoTimer is stupidly network / resource heavy last I checked |
| 20:35.06 | NeoTron | so I disabled it |
| 20:35.57 | durcyn | "drawback"? if you wipe to that trash because of a banish, then you need to start buying your raid helmets |
| 20:36.10 | Gnarfoz | does Forte Warlock have syncing code? I'd so install it for the raids I lead, to have bars. although I would probably suppress the raid chat spam, in that case ^^ |
| 20:36.35 | frop | damn...Vashj is hard :( |
| 20:36.43 | Gnarfoz | Vashj is random, not hard :\ |
| 20:36.53 | frop | eheh...we cannot pass ph2 |
| 20:36.59 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:37.10 | Gnarfoz | p3 is just a dps race, easily done if everyone survives p2 |
| 20:37.16 | frop | or better we pass it...but with 2ppl alive :) |
| 20:37.24 | Jaxon | frop: what problems are you having? How are people dying? |
| 20:37.36 | frop | lightning mostly |
| 20:37.50 | frop | ppl on Elementals |
| 20:37.59 | Jaxon | Are you missing tainted elementals? Is phase 2 lasting too long? |
| 20:38.13 | frop | ...naah |
| 20:38.17 | frop | we got them |
| 20:38.32 | frop | but lightning from vashj kill us |
| 20:38.48 | Gnarfoz | for us it was (and _is_, we never got her down to a real "farm status", we simply skipped to MH/BT now) mostly dying kiters, people insta-dying to naga elites or striders that just spawned on top of them... and stuff. |
| 20:39.10 | frop | Gnarfoz just happened to me :) |
| 20:39.19 | Ordog | any enhancement shaman here atm ? |
| 20:39.26 | frop | on Elementals duty on south...strider spawned and i was dead |
| 20:39.33 | frop | nope Ordog, why? |
| 20:39.45 | Jaxon | When we were doing Vashj we had our two paladin healers on the two Naga tanks and 4 priest/shaman healers watching the 4 pairs of elemental DPS, healing chain lightning from Vashj. |
| 20:39.50 | frop | ohh...not "here" :) |
| 20:39.51 | Ordog | has somebody tried to put the EP (enhancement point) system in an addon ? |
| 20:40.06 | Ordog | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13297-enhance_shaman_collected_works_theorycraft_vol_i/ |
| 20:40.11 | Ordog | like mentioned here |
| 20:40.25 | frop | Jaxon we have only one DPS on elementals on each side |
| 20:40.30 | frop | and we still die |
| 20:40.55 | Jaxon | frop: to prevent random deaths to striders/Naga, we had our two central Paladins healing with Rightious Fury. |
| 20:41.00 | Jaxon | Where is the rest of your DPS? |
| 20:41.01 | Chompers | kaz on 15% then boom, all dead |
| 20:41.02 | Chompers | :< |
| 20:41.04 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r63605 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua koKR.lua): |
| 20:41.04 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 20:41.04 | CIA-9 | - add Destiny,Dragonbreath Chili,Gore,Holy Strength |
| 20:41.05 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 20:41.13 | frop | on striders and Naga |
| 20:41.30 | frop | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.34 | kergoth | Ordog: try out Pawn, and see http://pawnmod.trenchrats.com/ |
| 20:41.35 | frop | cya later :) |
| 20:42.22 | shanesveller | i very much enjoy pawn |
| 20:42.33 | Dashkal | Meh. I like Pawn, but it lacks support for handling stat caps gracefully. (and I have no idea how to suggest a way to solve this) |
| 20:42.37 | shanesveller | it's adjustable to your scale and your own priorities, not just someone else's math |
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| 20:45.42 | NeoTron | Ordog: SmartFitter is another option |
| 20:45.57 | NeoTron | pawn-functionality but also able to pick the best gear you have based on the values you set |
| 20:46.04 | shanesveller | once again, i'm struck by the difference between this channel and wowinterface.com's |
| 20:46.32 | shanesveller | nothing but inane chatter the few days i've popped into that one |
| 20:46.37 | Fin | what's a decent price for a stack of khorium ore? |
| 20:46.41 | mort | !rating 1764 |
| 20:46.41 | Xinhuan | 1764 rating gives 704(5s), 620(3s) and 535(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 20:46.44 | Fisker- | zzz |
| 20:47.01 | Chompers | Fisker- - hyjal tonight? |
| 20:47.06 | Fisker- | need waves in MH to be renamed "Wave x out of y: PULL THE MOBS INTO JAINA FOR SPIRIT KEKE" |
| 20:47.18 | Fisker- | Got some mage that have mentioned it for the billionth time now |
| 20:47.21 | Chompers | i'll take that as a yes |
| 20:47.25 | Fisker- | yes |
| 20:47.28 | Chompers | horay |
| 20:47.34 | Fisker- | i dislike trash |
| 20:47.35 | Chompers | fuck horde waves, eaugh |
| 20:47.42 | Chompers | man, wait till camp two |
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| 20:48.12 | Chompers | bigwigs might be bugged, wave 4 says its got 2 minutes left...then BAM they appear |
| 20:48.25 | Fisker- | still arguing whether or not healers should heal the raid |
| 20:48.35 | Fisker- | i'm pro-raidhealing |
| 20:48.35 | Funkeh` | blizz bug |
| 20:49.05 | durcyn | Chompers: that kind of happens when you kill them all before the timer |
| 20:49.05 | Chompers | really funk ? :< |
| 20:49.08 | CIA-9 | 037destiny 072.4 * r63606 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/koKR.lua: Omen: - koKR Update |
| 20:49.16 | Chompers | hahahha, we're not killing them before timer |
| 20:49.21 | durcyn | ...why not |
| 20:49.31 | Chompers | we're usually killing them about 20 seconds into the next wave |
| 20:49.48 | Chompers | slow dps tonight, we're tryout out aoe now |
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| 20:50.10 | Jaxon | Sounds like you need a protection paladin. |
| 20:50.15 | durcyn | throw a paladin in there, give him FAPs for the aboms, and aoe away |
| 20:50.19 | Chompers | he's on holiday :P |
| 20:50.20 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: got any recent screenshot of your Prospector tooltip? |
| 20:50.24 | Fisker- | raid healing on anetheron (Y/n):? |
| 20:50.34 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: wut? |
| 20:50.37 | Chompers | both |
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| 20:50.40 | Fisker- | i said Y |
| 20:50.41 | Chompers | tell them to bandage |
| 20:50.51 | NeoTron | Chompers: when our prot pally went on vacation, we had a holy pally spec prot |
| 20:50.55 | Xinhuan | it hasn't changed much |
| 20:50.58 | NeoTron | he already had a good prot gear set but alas |
| 20:50.59 | Fisker- | a mage got 4 swarms without getting healed once :D |
| 20:51.07 | Fisker- | used bandage, iceblock etc. |
| 20:51.08 | Chompers | neo, a SP has a pally tank |
| 20:51.11 | Chompers | might ask him |
| 20:51.17 | Jaxon | Fisker-: I don't see why not, you only have two people getting healed otherwise. |
| 20:52.06 | NeoTron | Fisker-: are you asking whether or not healers should heal the raid in a fight with heavy raid damage? |
| 20:52.29 | NeoTron | anyhow, time to head out. bbl |
| 20:52.30 | Fisker- | sarcastically yes |
| 20:52.41 | Fisker- | seems most our healers lean towards N |
| 20:52.44 | Jaxon | Besides, not topping off the raid means that any random Infernal is going to wipe out 1-5 people based on where it lands. |
| 20:52.49 | Ordog | thanks kergoth NeoTron |
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| 20:53.14 | NeoTron | Fisker-: fire them? :P what else could they possibly be healing? the two tanks? heh |
| 20:53.15 | Gnarfoz | you can do either Akama (no brainer, but you could leave him out), Teron, RoS or Bloodboil once you've killed Supremus, right? |
| 20:53.32 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: right. |
| 20:54.00 | Gnarfoz | that's what I recalled, but one of my co-leaders thinks otherwise |
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| 20:54.24 | Gnarfoz | luckily, I've got IRC at my fingertips. :> |
| 20:54.35 | Jaxon | Most people tend to goto Gorefiend after Akama, but we do Gurtogg, less trash. |
| 20:55.25 | Fisker- | lets see if we can take him now :P |
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| 20:56.33 | Gnarfoz | Jaxon: yea, we downed gorefiend yesterday, but the discussion now was wether we should limit attempts on new bosses two something like 2 hours per raid, and do some other boss after the time is up |
| 20:57.01 | Gnarfoz | because we noticed a severe drop of attention and improvement (Actually, it got worse) after about 10-15 archimonde tries |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | (it's the same for every new boss, if we need many tries) |
| 20:57.27 | sb | Fisker-: no - get out of swarm range |
| 20:57.29 | Gnarfoz | s/attention/focus/ (yeah I know this won't work) |
| 20:57.42 | sb | pull infernals to jaina starting position |
| 20:57.53 | sb | melee only on anetheron is fine |
| 20:58.34 | NivFreak | no one seems able to answer the question with certainty, are mag's channelers tauntable? |
| 20:58.43 | Fisker- | THATS FUCKING AWESOME |
| 20:59.03 | Fisker- | only one got hit by swarm |
| 20:59.05 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: never tried, really |
| 20:59.08 | Fisker- | he didn't get healed for a minute |
| 20:59.16 | Fisker- | not even a renew :D |
| 20:59.22 | Fisker- | he bandaged 2 times then died |
| 20:59.33 | Gnarfoz | what the hell are your healers doing? |
| 20:59.34 | Fisker- | "oooh we're healing raid bla bla" |
| 20:59.35 | Jaxon | Your healers are retarded. |
| 20:59.36 | Jaxon | Replace them. |
| 21:00.52 | Fisker- | well it helped when i told them they just lost a person because they refused to heal |
| 21:00.52 | Chompers | being a fury warrior is awesome here |
| 21:00.54 | Fisker- | that seemed to help |
| 21:01.06 | Chompers | its just whirlwind after whirlwind |
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| 21:02.21 | Fisker- | oh we won :o |
| 21:02.43 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: where did you pull the zone height and widths from for gathermate? tourist? |
| 21:03.29 | Xinhuan | i believe it is copied from libtourist |
| 21:03.44 | Xinhuan | but the exact numbers are ALL available in WorldMapArea.dbc |
| 21:03.50 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 21:03.52 | Xinhuan | in the x1, x2, y1, y2 columns |
| 21:03.58 | Xinhuan | which is the original source |
| 21:04.12 | Xinhuan | x1 is the left boundary edge, x2 is the right boundary |
| 21:04.17 | Xinhuan | so x2-x1 = zone width |
| 21:04.27 | Xinhuan | and the value of x1 is the zone offset |
| 21:04.33 | Xinhuan | from the world coords |
| 21:04.56 | Xinhuan | so give x1, x2, y1, y2, you can get w,h,x,y by calculating x2-x1, y2-y1, x1, y1 |
| 21:06.29 | Fisker- | we killed mobs Chompers baww |
| 21:06.37 | Chompers | horay |
| 21:06.43 | Chompers | now go mine your gems |
| 21:07.02 | Chompers | go north i think, they're all along the road |
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| 21:07.46 | Xinhuan | as you can imagine Arrowmaster, we have updated gathermate/routes with sunwell data weeks ago :) |
| 21:07.49 | Chompers | dead to wave 7 |
| 21:07.52 | Chompers | bastard |
| 21:08.00 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: yeah but i need battleground data |
| 21:08.12 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if that exists |
| 21:08.22 | Xinhuan | since they don't have a x/y offset so to speak |
| 21:08.35 | Xinhuan | or they could be in a different file, or hardcoded |
| 21:08.51 | Xinhuan | now Astrolabe also has w,h,x,y numbers |
| 21:08.53 | cncfanatics | who maintains wowdb ? |
| 21:09.04 | Gnarfoz | they don't have a worldmap, either, they're on the cosmic map |
| 21:09.05 | Xinhuan | if you ask Esamynn, she will tell you that |
| 21:09.16 | Xinhuan | all her numbers are obtained from ingame measurements |
| 21:09.25 | Xinhuan | based on running speed, coordinates, and the like |
| 21:09.31 | Kulaar | !rating 1654 |
| 21:09.32 | Xinhuan | 1654 rating gives 539(5s), 475(3s) and 410(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:09.36 | Chompers | getting a pally to respec ;) |
| 21:09.45 | cncfanatics | someone, who maintains wowdb ? |
| 21:09.46 | Arrowmaster | wheres the dbc file at in the mpqs? |
| 21:09.51 | cncfanatics | there's some serious crap that needs to be corrected in there |
| 21:09.52 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: curse...? |
| 21:09.58 | Xinhuan | typically in locale.mpq |
| 21:10.05 | Xinhuan | but you should look for the latest one in |
| 21:10.07 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 21:10.07 | Xinhuan | patch4.mpq |
| 21:10.08 | p3lim | !rating 1503 |
| 21:10.09 | Xinhuan | 1503 rating gives 347(5s), 305(3s) and 263(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:10.14 | Arrowmaster | i was looking in the normal ones |
| 21:10.14 | Xinhuan | in wowtest that is |
| 21:10.23 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't care less how wrong wowdb is, anyway. they're a worthless wowhead ripoff from top to bottom. |
| 21:11.12 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: true, I don't like bullshit on sites either way though |
| 21:11.15 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: I thought I was crazy when no one else said that on our guild forums. |
| 21:11.53 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: that bullshit will make their "customers" (it's all about ad revenue anyway) stay away though ^^ |
| 21:13.06 | Ordog | [2008/03/04 22:11:47-551-x1]: LibBabble-Spell-3.0\LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:1849: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1341) near '[' <- known? |
| 21:13.39 | Ordog | latest build |
| 21:14.34 | frop | ehi guys...what's a typical ram usage for a "raid" ui? |
| 21:14.56 | Ordog | im always around 50 megs *g* |
| 21:15.02 | frop | i got MANY lag spikes here...and i think could be my UI |
| 21:15.02 | Diao | yea it killed my addons |
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| 21:15.16 | Fisker- | I HATE YOU CHOMPERS RAWR |
| 21:15.21 | frop | sitting at about 40 |
| 21:15.30 | Azurewrath | lag spikes have nothing to do with ram usage... only if you have like 512-1024mb ram :p |
| 21:15.36 | frop | ...but getting lag spikes |
| 21:15.45 | frop | got 2Gb |
| 21:15.50 | frop | ...still laggy |
| 21:16.21 | Azurewrath | forget about ram usage then.. maybe it's the cpu usage of some addon |
| 21:16.29 | frop | ohh..on a dual core with 7600gt |
| 21:16.33 | frop | mmmh |
| 21:16.35 | frop | could be |
| 21:17.23 | Diao | someone forgot a comma at line 1848 |
| 21:17.30 | Diao | in libbabble-spell-3.0.lua |
| 21:17.38 | Diao | fixed in my local copy |
| 21:17.40 | Ordog | zomg theres a , missing in line 1849 ! :) |
| 21:17.59 | Diao | it's actually 1848 :p |
| 21:18.02 | Diao | 1849 is the following line |
| 21:18.03 | Ordog | darn |
| 21:18.43 | Ordog | got no svn acc somebody please fix it |
| 21:18.47 | Diao | me neither |
| 21:21.07 | CIA-9 | 03ulic * r63607 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 21:21.07 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 21:21.07 | CIA-9 | - Added missin comma |
| 21:21.18 | ulic | +g :P |
| 21:21.46 | nevcairiel | a asian translator broke babble-spell again? |
| 21:22.48 | Ordog | oh please dont get anti asian now ... ok evidence speaks against them and all that but ... |
| 21:23.02 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I must be retarded, how do I get the config menu for magicmarker up? |
| 21:23.06 | Ordog | actually i dont even know if there is more than one |
| 21:23.38 | ulic | yep, 7destiny |
| 21:24.46 | nevcairiel | Ordog: its just thats always them .. they never seem to actually test their commits |
| 21:25.18 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 21:25.27 | Fisker- | First "rave" in thralls camp has frostwyrms |
| 21:25.27 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:25.38 | Ordog | ya someone shout at him, maybe that'll help |
| 21:25.39 | ulic | the goodnews is thanks to this community it was only broken for about 41 minutes :) |
| 21:26.52 | Ordog | a timewindow in which i was forced to restart wow. Im not paying for this anymore! |
| 21:26.53 | Ordog | err |
| 21:26.54 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 21:27.24 | Fisker- | invading enemies = -4 :D? |
| 21:28.48 | kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkJX1mspSU heh |
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| 21:29.05 | kebinusan | Goon squad kites Jaina Proudmoore to Thrall |
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| 21:29.40 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:29.58 | kebinusan | They used a turn-in quest to spawn an uber buffed version of Jaina. Apparently regardless of person every 20 seconds she teleports them to the docks of Theramore. Neither Cairne nor Thrall were immune, so they were teleported to the docks as well, only to evade and reset. |
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| 21:31.24 | Gnarfoz | wth? :D |
| 21:31.38 | kenlyric | I don't understand |
| 21:32.32 | nevcairiel | goon squad is a bunch of morons =P |
| 21:33.14 | kebinusan | heh |
| 21:33.25 | Fisker- | :O |
| 21:33.26 | kebinusan | We did a barrens flightmaster ransom one weekend |
| 21:33.27 | Fisker- | gargoyle's = hax |
| 21:33.36 | kebinusan | just kite away all the flight masters but dont kill them |
| 21:33.37 | Fisker- | somethingawf pvp video = win |
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| 21:33.50 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: you know GMs ban for that now, yea? :) |
| 21:34.01 | kebinusan | yeah, blizzard hates fun |
| 21:34.02 | NeoTron | NivFreak: /magic or bind a key to it |
| 21:34.07 | NeoTron | or via /ace3 config dialog |
| 21:34.22 | robotusch | Fisker-, agreed - even though I'm not proud of it ;( |
| 21:34.35 | NivFreak | maybe I'm missing an ace3 bit then |
| 21:34.41 | NivFreak | oh |
| 21:34.45 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.54 | nevcairiel | you can only use the /ace3 slash if you run the Ace3 standalone |
| 21:34.59 | nevcairiel | its not there on embed libs |
| 21:35.37 | NivFreak | I used noexternals |
| 21:35.40 | NivFreak | so it seems to work :) |
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| 21:36.03 | NivFreak | it was just /magicmarker vs /magic having different behavior that screwed me up |
| 21:36.03 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: a lot of memory use from addons have very noticeable effects on performance |
| 21:36.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: is that intended? |
| 21:36.25 | Kulaar | !rating 1700 |
| 21:36.25 | Xinhuan | 1700 rating gives 607(5s), 534(3s) and 461(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:37.23 | NeoTron | Err... there's a /magicmarker? heh |
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| 21:37.48 | NivFreak | apparently |
| 21:37.53 | NeoTron | is there some implicit command added by ace3? |
| 21:38.00 | NeoTron | I only register "magic" afaik |
| 21:38.01 | Yssaril | do secure frames need to have names? |
| 21:38.12 | NivFreak | I get "options categories mobs" |
| 21:38.14 | NivFreak | as arguments |
| 21:38.22 | NivFreak | this is the first ace3 mod I've used |
| 21:38.29 | NivFreak | jwow installed ace3 with it :) |
| 21:39.24 | NeoTron | must be from: the RegisterOptionsTable command |
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| 21:40.44 | Gnarfoz | kebinusan: I wonder which quest that is... probably the Stormwind King one |
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| 21:42.07 | NeoTron | yeah /magicmarker is from aceconfig |
| 21:42.15 | NeoTron | ignore :P |
| 21:42.30 | Chompers | wiping on wave 8 :/ |
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| 21:42.44 | kebinusan | whats libsharedmedia 3.0 do that 2.0 didnt |
| 21:42.56 | Arrowmaster | have proper callbacks |
| 21:43.02 | vhaarr | kebinusan: nothing |
| 21:43.13 | vhaarr | just as 2.0 does nothing that 1.0 didn't do |
| 21:43.18 | Fisker- | thrall trash is fun :o |
| 21:43.32 | Chompers | what wave? |
| 21:43.51 | Fisker- | frostwyrms :P |
| 21:43.58 | kergoth | vhaarr: 2.0 lost a callback that 3.0 added back, afaik |
| 21:43.59 | Fisker- | and gargs |
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| 21:44.03 | kergoth | unless someone added it to 2.0 now? |
| 21:44.04 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6052.msg186936#msg186936 < any idea what could be wrong? |
| 21:44.15 | Stanzilla | SharedMedia problem.. |
| 21:44.20 | vhaarr | kergoth: so we should just go back from 2.0 -> 1.0 then |
| 21:44.32 | vhaarr | or add it to 2.0 |
| 21:44.39 | vhaarr | where's the fire that 3.0 puts out? |
| 21:44.47 | vhaarr | it creates more problems |
| 21:44.49 | vhaarr | it solves nothing |
| 21:45.08 | kergoth | no idea, but next time you want to claim there's no difference, you might want to have some facts to back it up |
| 21:45.11 | kergoth | just an idea |
| 21:45.34 | vhaarr | I already know 2.0 has a flaw, that's irrelevant |
| 21:45.37 | vhaarr | because it can be fixed |
| 21:45.45 | Arrowmaster | also doesnt register fonts for certain languages unless they support that language |
| 21:46.31 | Arrowmaster | so copy 3.0 over 2.0 and delete 3.0 and well forget about it |
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| 21:48.07 | Proph | are there any Full quest database mod that makes questing easy on wowace.com?? |
| 21:48.23 | kergoth | why would you need it to be on wowace.com? |
| 21:48.25 | Chompers | ?? |
| 21:48.43 | Chompers | try '???' people respond faster |
| 21:48.45 | Proph | well that is ace |
| 21:49.01 | kergoth | why would it need to be ace? |
| 21:49.12 | Proph | easier to update that mod |
| 21:49.14 | Proph | with wau |
| 21:49.18 | kergoth | so be less lazy |
| 21:49.18 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: you're one of the sharedmedia pros, help me please :) |
| 21:49.21 | Proph | if its on curse..its just a bitch |
| 21:49.30 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: i am? |
| 21:49.36 | Proph | its not being lazy..its being smart |
| 21:49.46 | Gnarfoz | why do you even bother asking anymore, kergoth :O |
| 21:49.47 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: whats the error? |
| 21:49.48 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: yup ^^ |
| 21:49.56 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6052.msg186936#msg186936 |
| 21:49.58 | Chompers | tourguide proph |
| 21:49.59 | kergoth | requiring taht something you use be ace for no reason other than convenience is fucking stupid |
| 21:50.02 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: good question :P |
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| 21:50.39 | sylvanaar_work | just translate it in your head "its ace" -> "its available from wowace.com" |
| 21:50.46 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: libsharedmedia not loaded? |
| 21:51.13 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: dunno..it's in the opdeps..so |
| 21:51.14 | Proph | kergoth: going to each site like curse, wowinterface, wowace to update multiple mods is fucking stupid |
| 21:51.15 | chiper | I translate "it's ace" to "it'll already use libraries I have" |
| 21:51.22 | kergoth | Proph: so use a better updater. |
| 21:51.49 | SunTsu | Proph: Then use an updater that can do more sites than one, like JWowUpdater |
| 21:51.59 | Proph | nice |
| 21:52.10 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: no callbackhandler in embeds.xml |
| 21:52.31 | Stanzilla | oh |
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| 21:52.49 | Chompers | tourguide, gogogo |
| 21:53.00 | Fisker- | FLAWLESS VICTORY |
| 21:53.17 | robotusch | lies |
| 21:53.22 | robotusch | you wiped & now you're QQ'ing |
| 21:53.32 | Chompers | awwww |
| 21:53.43 | Chompers | this is attempt 6 on the waves |
| 21:53.55 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: the callbacks are also completely wrong |
| 21:54.04 | Fisker- | no |
| 21:54.09 | Fisker- | 1 man standing :P |
| 21:54.11 | Fisker- | on kazrogal |
| 21:54.20 | kebinusan | epic gems for badges -_- |
| 21:54.21 | Fisker- | no ressers :( |
| 21:54.28 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: I haven't changed them..what would be the correct code to do that? |
| 21:54.28 | kebinusan | they love cutting out my guilds money making |
| 21:54.28 | Chompers | grrr |
| 21:54.33 | Chompers | fisker i hate you |
| 21:55.04 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:55.07 | Fisker- | first try |
| 21:55.55 | NeoTron | kebinusan: zomg. make them come from prospecting or mining if you want them more common. Blizzard seems to want to make EVERYTHING available for badges |
| 21:56.04 | NeoTron | what's next? buy a quest completion for 5 badges? |
| 21:56.13 | NivFreak | no shit |
| 21:56.30 | Gnarfoz | win the game for 20 |
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| 21:57.20 | Dekster | Does it take a while for FishEye to show recent changes to the SVN? |
| 21:57.21 | Fisker- | we just did kazrogal for 0 badges |
| 21:57.31 | Yssaril | they should have done badges that are specific to a dungeon kinda like the BG once and then you need a certain assortment of each to get ur gear or whatever |
| 21:57.31 | Gnarfoz | could have waited until 2.4 |
| 21:57.57 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: sm.RegisterCallback(self, "SharedMedia_SetGlobal", function(mediatype, override) end) |
| 21:58.46 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: but you dont have to fetch the override just refetch the original name since youll get the override anyway, you also need to register the other callback |
| 21:59.02 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: oh thats "LibSharedMedia_SetGlobal" not "SharedMedia_SetGlobal" |
| 21:59.19 | Stanzilla | hmm k thx |
| 21:59.38 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: other callback is "LibSharedMedia_Registered" function(mediatype, key) end |
| 22:00.59 | Fisker- | so how far are you Chompers ? |
| 22:01.06 | Fisker- | phyber |
| 22:01.09 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong |
| 22:02.45 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: oh its impossible to fix LSM2 since it uses lib:RegisterCallback(func) for syntax, not that anybody was actually using it though thus causing all the problems people have with loadorder and optdeping SharedMedia-2.0 |
| 22:03.05 | Arrowmaster | you know who to blame for that one |
| 22:04.13 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 22:04.16 | Dekster | Is anyone else having issues with the lates LibBabble-Spell-3.0? If not, then fail me I guess. |
| 22:04.23 | Dekster | *latest |
| 22:05.58 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: like that? http://rafb.net/p/zd56Vc14.html |
| 22:06.32 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 22:06.35 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:06.51 | nevcairiel | wtf the syntax is totally broken =P |
| 22:06.55 | Arrowmaster | you got a little messed up there |
| 22:08.36 | Arrowmaster | you need to compare the key from "LibSharedMedia_Registered" with the value you want to use for your bars and only fetch if they match |
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| 22:09.10 | Arrowmaster | not fetch on every "LibSharedMedia_Registered" and change your bars to the latest registered one |
| 22:09.28 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:11.40 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 22:11.47 | Chompers | bad, we cant kill horde waves |
| 22:12.04 | Kerafyrm | lol @ TTR |
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| 22:13.21 | kergoth | vhaarr: fyi, should probably have craftygnome ignore beast training, cause right now it freaks out when it opens :P |
| 22:14.04 | Dekster | Thanks for the fixes to LibBabble-Spell-3.0. I was impatient it seems. ;-) |
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| 22:17.39 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r63608 10Skinner/ (20 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:17.40 | CIA-9 | Skinner: Skinned Buff/Debuff Buttons & MovieProgressFrame |
| 22:17.40 | CIA-9 | - Updated EveryQuest, Squeenix, TourGuide, XPerl, CHinchilla, TomTom, EQL3, WIM & BankItems skins |
| 22:17.40 | CIA-9 | - Replaced SharedMedia-1.0 by LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 22:17.40 | CIA-9 | - More PTR 2.4 changes |
| 22:17.40 | CIA-9 | - Bugfixes |
| 22:17.42 | CIA-9 | - Added option to enable the Minimap 'Gloss' effect |
| 22:19.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 22:20.47 | vhaarr | kergoth: crap, what is the error? |
| 22:21.18 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63609 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ButtonStyle.lua PetBar.lua): Bartender4: adjust strata of pet buttons to match all other bars, and fix dreamlayout framelevel |
| 22:21.30 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63610 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua libs/): ClassTimer: add LibStub and CallbackHandler to embeds |
| 22:22.08 | kergoth | vhaarr: CraftyGnome\CraftyGnome.lua line 188: Table index is nil |
| 22:22.18 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63611 10ClassTimer/embeds.xml: ClassTimer: add LibStub and CallbackHandler to embeds |
| 22:22.58 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63612 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MMRaidIcon.lua): MagicMarker: Order raid targets like Blizzard does. Removed invalid debug printout. |
| 22:23.02 | Diao | hmm |
| 22:23.05 | Diao | did someone change something in parrot |
| 22:23.11 | Diao | all my custom texts are gone |
| 22:23.43 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63613 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: CraftyGnome: Don't error when showing the beast trainer frame. |
| 22:24.01 | vhaarr | bah! |
| 22:24.05 | vhaarr | I'll revert that commit in an hour |
| 22:24.13 | vhaarr | don't update |
| 22:24.58 | phyber | Fisker-: ? :o |
| 22:28.48 | Aeyan | Diao: Yeah, Parrot fragged all my settings |
| 22:29.04 | Aeyan | Luckily I keep backups from when I screw with stuff |
| 22:29.12 | Aeyan | But whatever caused it, that's a bad, bad bug |
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| 22:32.47 | ulic | according to fish, Parrot hasn't been updated since, 10 February 2008, so maybe some lib or something screwed em up. |
| 22:34.53 | kergoth | wonder why pt's instanceloot doesnt break down coilfang into the individual instances |
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| 22:35.16 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63614 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: CraftyGnome: Revert the unwanted changes from last commit. |
| 22:35.27 | vhaarr | perhaps the keys for it were made before the instance layout was known |
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| 22:44.43 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 22:44.46 | Chompers | guess what |
| 22:48.42 | Wobin | You has a bucket? |
| 22:49.08 | Chompers | a bucket with kaz rogals head in it :D |
| 22:49.17 | Thorgard | kek |
| 22:50.17 | Yssaril | anyone know any good writeup on how to work with SecureStateHeaders? |
| 22:50.25 | Chompers | is azgalor possible? |
| 22:50.30 | Chompers | or do we all need shadow gear |
| 22:51.58 | Gnarfoz | possible if you know what to do |
| 22:52.04 | Gnarfoz | and not die to trash waves |
| 22:52.31 | genetik | don't need shadow resist gear for azgalor.. it's just useful for resisting silences |
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| 22:59.11 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: anything new and cool in bartender4 except ace3? |
| 22:59.12 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 22:59.17 | NivFreak | I need to learn lua |
| 22:59.20 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 22:59.26 | NivFreak | I can hack around on some shit |
| 22:59.35 | NivFreak | but that's about it |
| 23:00.06 | NeoTron | I had minor pre-lua experience from when I was working on the linux port of Hyperspace Delivery Boy and some other minor games |
| 23:00.31 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: I hope possession bar support is in ;> |
| 23:00.36 | NivFreak | you know it's bad when you're unclear how how much table manipulation is built in |
| 23:00.55 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: if would suck if I expect it and it wasn't there :P |
| 23:01.03 | NeoTron | although I do have it bound to other keys too |
| 23:01.40 | NeoTron | considering all the 2.4 chnges, I wonder how far away wotlk is - how long before BC did they change the pvp honor system? |
| 23:04.19 | Zhinjio | RIP : Gary Gygax. |
| 23:04.21 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63615 10FuBar_SpeedFu/SpeedFu.lua: FuBar_SpeedFu: now uses y1-y2 data extracted from WorldMapArea.dbc |
| 23:04.32 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63616 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 23:04.32 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 23:04.32 | CIA-9 | - Fixed Repair module error |
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| 23:06.07 | mort | urgh, texture selection in classtimer is broken :( |
| 23:06.21 | Arrowmaster | known issue |
| 23:06.28 | NeoTron | kalgan actually commented on the lifetap change |
| 23:06.36 | mort | NeoTron link? |
| 23:06.56 | NeoTron | " it's virtually guaranteed that the life tap change is a major pve buff once the health/mana pools start getting gamed to maximize it, but also in that we internally question the mechanics of the change and question whether it's necessary in the current dynamics of PvP. " |
| 23:07.05 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103671845&sid=1&pageNo=8#159 |
| 23:07.11 | Stanzilla | mort: which revision of classtimer are you using? |
| 23:07.12 | Chaud | Yeah, rofl @ that |
| 23:07.13 | Arrowmaster | retarded comment |
| 23:07.22 | mort | updated a second ago, let me check |
| 23:07.33 | mort | 63611 |
| 23:07.37 | Stanzilla | damn.. |
| 23:07.38 | NeoTron | still don't understand how they expect us to "game" the health/mana pools except not equiopping warlock gear |
| 23:08.11 | Wobin | get ... "game"d? |
| 23:08.18 | Thorgard | NeoTron, omg, learn2socket. |
| 23:08.42 | NeoTron | right. put them int gems in ftw! |
| 23:08.44 | mort | i'm still waiting for a comment on the lifebloom nerf |
| 23:08.50 | Wobin | yeah, just gem for int |
| 23:08.52 | Wobin | duh =P |
| 23:09.25 | Hobby | i'm holding out for pots stacking over 5 |
| 23:09.34 | Hobby | not patching until it happens |
| 23:10.05 | Wobin | Hobby: That'll show them? |
| 23:11.16 | Hobby | damn right |
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| 23:23.51 | Nandini | pots stacking over 5? wts potion injector |
| 23:24.07 | frop | engineer can craft them for ya |
| 23:24.19 | frop | with some FelIron and some leathers |
| 23:24.22 | Yssaril | btw anyone working on a timer addon for 2.4 that tracks multible dots on multible targets? |
| 23:25.04 | Nandini | i love how classes that depend on certain kind of addons for a crutch panic when a new patch comes. heheh |
| 23:25.49 | Nandini | well not as a crutch in this case, more like a machine gun |
| 23:27.04 | Yssaril | bah can get by with it now the only one that even really trys multitarget is dottimers and it sucks :P |
| 23:31.35 | Aeyan | I thought spellreminder did multiples as well |
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| 23:36.36 | Antiarc | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/moneysocal/walmart.jpg |
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| 23:37.24 | Funkeh` | o.k |
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| 23:41.16 | Chaud | http://afrojacks.com/files/curvedyellowfruit.jpg wtf |
| 23:42.01 | Antiarc | That's awesome |
| 23:42.11 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:42.12 | Antiarc | If I every have a store I'll try to use as many names like that as I can |
| 23:42.28 | Chaud | so random |
| 23:42.35 | ckknight | it's hilarious |
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| 23:47.03 | syeren | ckknight, you need to make the new Trinket Menu :/ |
| 23:47.16 | syeren | The current one is stupidly out dated, clunky, and not many options :< |
| 23:47.43 | ckknight | but I have a real job now |
| 23:47.45 | ckknight | well, arguably real |
| 23:47.56 | ckknight | also, I'm pretty busy getting LibDogTag-3.0 out the door |
| 23:55.30 | EvilJohn | grats on a real job |
| 23:55.41 | EvilJohn | arguably |
| 23:57.02 | kergoth | NeoTron: got a magicmarker error |
| 23:57.19 | Yssaril | run out of ink? |
| 23:57.42 | kergoth | :P |
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