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| 00:00.22 | Xinhuan | except the branch version number isn't increased either |
| 00:00.38 | Xinhuan | and if you manual bump, you might as well $Rev$ bump |
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| 00:03.20 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r62145 10Incubator/ (. Core.lua Incubator.toc embeds.xml): |
| 00:03.20 | CIA-12 | Incubator: |
| 00:03.20 | CIA-12 | - fix Ammo's changes that I screwed up |
| 00:05.13 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r62146 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: |
| 00:05.13 | CIA-12 | GridStatusHots : |
| 00:05.13 | CIA-12 | - koKR Update |
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| 00:09.24 | Antiarc | So. Fun bug from today's PTR push. |
| 00:09.25 | Antiarc | "Only one player per zone is able to get mana back from drinking at one time." |
| 00:09.51 | Groktar-Impulse | wow |
| 00:10.12 | Antiarc | afk, writing LibDrinkSync |
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| 00:10.21 | Antiarc | Please take a number. |
| 00:10.24 | NightHawkAtWork | haha, that's an awesome bug. |
| 00:11.04 | Ellipsis | srsly? |
| 00:11.08 | Ellipsis | oh blizrad |
| 00:11.17 | Groktar-Impulse | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493581970&sid=1 |
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| 00:11.26 | Groktar-Impulse | under items |
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| 00:13.55 | Lukian | do mana potions cause threat? |
| 00:14.04 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.14 | Antiarc | 0.5 threat per point of mana gained |
| 00:14.21 | NivFreak | any mana/health gain does afaik |
| 00:14.33 | Antiarc | With a few exceptions, like Life Tap or Improved LEader of the PAck, yes |
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| 00:14.59 | NivFreak | oh wow, those don't generate threat? |
| 00:14.59 | Antiarc | (Life Tap generating threat would be awesome) |
| 00:15.04 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:15.11 | NivFreak | imp LotP should |
| 00:15.11 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:15.50 | Groktar-Impulse | also, i've watched the debugging thing |
| 00:16.03 | Groktar-Impulse | is it applying threat modifiers to that? |
| 00:16.22 | Antiarc | To what? Mana gains? |
| 00:16.26 | Groktar-Impulse | for instance, i occaisonally see "adding 5 threat to xxxx" |
| 00:16.29 | Antiarc | Mana/rage/energy gains are unmodified |
| 00:16.35 | Groktar-Impulse | oh really? |
| 00:16.46 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 00:16.53 | Antiarc | Which is why shadow priests screw themselves over on Gurtogg |
| 00:17.08 | Antiarc | Insignificance doesn't affect the threat from VT's mana regen :D |
| 00:18.16 | Groktar-Impulse | hmm |
| 00:18.24 | Stanzilla | I hate gurtogg :( |
| 00:18.28 | Groktar-Impulse | it's still only going to be a few k |
| 00:18.33 | Stanzilla | I stand around doing nothing in the non-felrage phases :( |
| 00:18.42 | Groktar-Impulse | like 7500 for a 2k dps priest |
| 00:19.06 | Groktar-Impulse | hehe |
| 00:19.12 | Groktar-Impulse | soulstone and die! |
| 00:19.35 | Groktar-Impulse | i remember our priests doing that when we used to do void reaver |
| 00:19.50 | Groktar-Impulse | at 80% they'd get right up on his ass and go all out till they pulled aggro |
| 00:19.53 | Groktar-Impulse | then use a soulstone |
| 00:19.55 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r62147 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 00:19.55 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 00:19.55 | CIA-12 | - Add option for user to display per hour value as a breakdown into cash and items rather than a lump sum. |
| 00:22.01 | Wogroipl | I get an error in WAU: Error loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object... |
| 00:22.15 | Wogroipl | anyone know what's wrong? |
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| 00:24.07 | Recluse | Wogroipl: i had the same problem, but it cleared up on its own today. i think it's an issue with the files.wowace site, but just a guess |
| 00:24.30 | Wogroipl | I reloaded the index, seemed to work :) |
| 00:25.24 | Mikk | files.wowace had a broken file listing the other day. it was fixed. forcing a reload should fix it on your end. |
| 00:25.41 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021908_172443.jpg <-- I hope this bug goes live. I feel badass smacking things with weapons that size. |
| 00:25.49 | Wogroipl | yup, think the cache was borked |
| 00:26.10 | xyu` | DOes anyone know how i can fix this, or what my problem is? http://ace.pastey.net/82618 |
| 00:26.18 | xyu` | This happens when i right click on baggins fubar |
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| 00:28.24 | Dashkal | random and offtopic: anybody know perl for string concat offhand? |
| 00:29.27 | SunTsu | Dashkal: dot |
| 00:29.37 | Dashkal | danke |
| 00:29.38 | SunTsu | Dashkal: "foo" . "bar" |
| 00:29.47 | SunTsu | You're welcome ;) |
| 00:30.00 | Dashkal | That's the one. quick shell scripts... the only thing I use that language for |
| 00:30.43 | Mikk | xyu`: sounds like a busted translation |
| 00:31.05 | Mikk | assuming you use a nonenglish wow |
| 00:31.10 | xyu` | i use usEN |
| 00:31.14 | Mikk | my bad |
| 00:31.49 | xyu` | ckk said somewhere there is a desc labeled as "" |
| 00:31.54 | xyu` | but i dont know how to fix that o_O |
| 00:32.04 | ckknight | enUS |
| 00:32.05 | xyu` | i've tried updating, re-installing etc. |
| 00:32.35 | ckknight | xyu`: who's the author of ShowMoney? |
| 00:33.02 | xyu` | I don't use an Addon called SHowMOney that i'm aware of. It must be a baggins module or something. |
| 00:33.09 | xyu` | I use money_fu. that's all i can think of |
| 00:33.45 | xyu` | this error only happens when i right click on baggins in the fubar. |
| 00:33.58 | Mikk | right, i know what's happening i think |
| 00:34.07 | Mikk | i think you've created a bag with a name of "" |
| 00:34.10 | Mikk | i.e. nothing |
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| 00:35.06 | Recluse | showMoney is just the menu entry's name, looks like |
| 00:35.14 | Mikk | it is |
| 00:35.21 | Mikk | i'm testing a patch |
| 00:35.30 | Recluse | :) |
| 00:36.35 | CIA-12 | 03aentila 07Aentila * r62148 10Incubator/integration-1/: Incubator: Looks like morgalm has decided to commit the entirety of his changes directly to trunk, which basically negates the need for me to have a working branch right now. |
| 00:36.37 | xyu` | whoa i logged out in the middle of like 30 Demon Hunter Supplicants up there on BT. bad idea |
| 00:37.05 | aestil | i wish tuller had combuctor on the SVN |
| 00:37.18 | CIA-12 | 03mikk * r62149 10Baggins/Baggins-Options.lua: |
| 00:37.18 | CIA-12 | Baggins: |
| 00:37.18 | CIA-12 | - Possible fix for: |
| 00:37.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.19 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.24 | xyu` | Mikk: how would i delete a bag if i did have it un-labeled |
| 00:37.27 | xyu` | I think that is what happeend |
| 00:37.44 | Mikk | very good question |
| 00:37.47 | Mikk | lemme play around a bit |
| 00:37.53 | xyu` | oo n/m i see it |
| 00:38.11 | xyu` | and that fixed it |
| 00:38.13 | xyu` | thanks ^^ |
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| 00:39.26 | CIA-12 | 03elsia 072.4 * r62150 10Recount/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:39.26 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 00:39.26 | CIA-12 | - Improved support for SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, which includes hunter pet growl hits. This and other damage-less successful spell casts will now show properly in the details window. |
| 00:39.26 | CIA-12 | - Removed bug with Ress tracking and PoM tracking not working. |
| 00:39.26 | CIA-12 | - Extracted all threat-related code for now and prepared later modular |
| 00:39.28 | Mikk | yoiks, there's more shit kabooming, not just that |
| 00:39.30 | CIA-12 | re-integration once threat-2.0 is ready. All Threat-1.0 dependencies removed, |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | that means permanent goodbye to Babble-Spell, Babble-Boss, Babble-Race, |
| 00:39.40 | Antiarc | \o/ |
| 00:42.49 | aestil | Antiarc: server economy is pretty good. |
| 00:43.05 | CIA-12 | 03mikk * r62151 10Baggins/Baggins-Options.lua: |
| 00:43.05 | CIA-12 | Baggins: |
| 00:43.05 | CIA-12 | - More fixes for dewdrop (correctly?) barfing on unnamed bags |
| 00:43.08 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's a launch server, and one of the biggest US servers, so it's pretty hopping, at least alliance side |
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| 00:44.08 | Mikk | What I want to know is what norgs sniffs to get a median value of ~10g for LBSes when they're <3g on my server |
| 00:47.35 | break19 | vx:Reg("Myfunction",2) runs Myfunction every 2 seconds (more or less) ? |
| 00:47.45 | break19 | .. using AceTimer-3.0 that is |
| 00:48.26 | NeoTron | Kilrogg is a good server, economy-wise |
| 00:48.58 | break19 | ahh, nm, I see what I need to do.. |
| 00:49.48 | Primer | mine's economy sucks |
| 00:50.12 | Primer | but I refuse to play the AH |
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| 00:50.48 | NeoTron | we're starting a horde-side guild too |
| 00:50.49 | Mikk | i thought i'd try it for kicks and change from dailies |
| 00:51.03 | NeoTron | more for fun than anything |
| 00:51.03 | Mikk | i'm not so sure it's better money per hour than dailies - it prolly isnt' |
| 00:51.05 | Mikk | but it's new |
| 00:51.39 | NeoTron | armorylike is the shit - http://armorylite.com/us/Kilrogg/Bashimaya/c |
| 00:51.59 | NeoTron | s/like/lite/ |
| 00:52.03 | estala | Does anybody have the in game code |
| 00:52.08 | estala | to link a spell from it's ID? |
| 00:52.47 | Corgan | ckknight, there a 2.4 parrot yet? |
| 00:52.54 | ckknight | no |
| 00:53.02 | Corgan | mmhmm kk |
| 00:53.03 | break19 | squawk |
| 00:53.05 | ckknight | I've been working on PitBull and Chinchilla for the past while |
| 00:53.11 | ckknight | I'll get to Parrot when I get to it |
| 00:53.11 | Corgan | ah |
| 00:53.18 | Corgan | k :) |
| 00:53.32 | NeoTron | ckknight: would a cracker help? |
| 00:53.45 | ckknight | no |
| 00:54.59 | NeoTron | poor parrot |
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| 01:00.03 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r62152 10Incubator/embeds.xml: |
| 01:00.03 | CIA-12 | Incubator: |
| 01:00.03 | CIA-12 | - temp change for error in lib.xml of Libbabbleboss and zone |
| 01:00.28 | Dashkal | Hrm, trying to use armorylite... and it fails saying the armory is down... but wowarmory.com is working |
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| 01:02.07 | Dashkal | there we go |
| 01:02.21 | Arrowmaster | theres an error in lib.xml of libbabbleboss and zone? |
| 01:03.38 | Arrowmaster | Morgalm: ping |
| 01:04.09 | Arrowmaster | Morgalm: theres no error in libbabbleboss and zone lib.xml's, you need to use Include instead of Script |
| 01:04.30 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 01:04.35 | NivFreak | armorylite is pretty neat |
| 01:04.41 | NivFreak | but it's a bit too lite for me :) |
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| 01:05.54 | break19 | what's wrong here? I'm trying to make a bucket event, with ace3.. http://ace.pastey.net/82645 |
| 01:07.04 | break19 | its not liking my interval. things 2.0 isnt a number.. |
| 01:07.13 | break19 | s/things/thinks/ |
| 01:08.39 | CIA-12 | 03morgalm * r62153 10Incubator/embeds.xml: |
| 01:08.39 | CIA-12 | Incubator: |
| 01:08.39 | CIA-12 | - ah apparently its Include not script - DOH |
| 01:08.48 | Yssaril | break19 i dont see any RegisterBucketEvent in the AceEvent-30 lua didnt they remove bucket events? |
| 01:09.00 | break19 | Yssaril: AceBucket-3.0 :) |
| 01:09.05 | aestil | chinchilla, what is it? |
| 01:09.15 | ckknight | aestil: Minimap addon (of awesomeness) |
| 01:09.19 | ckknight | keep it away form your hay pellets, though |
| 01:09.23 | ckknight | it'll get nibbly |
| 01:09.24 | aestil | really? |
| 01:09.29 | aestil | ok. penultimate request? |
| 01:09.35 | aestil | level and strata adjustments please. |
| 01:09.36 | ckknight | aestil: yea, I made a minimap addon |
| 01:09.40 | ckknight | aestil: sorry, too late |
| 01:09.42 | ckknight | already done |
| 01:09.45 | aestil | kk. |
| 01:09.51 | aestil | is it live? |
| 01:09.53 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:09.56 | aestil | i'll try it. |
| 01:10.08 | aestil | how could it be any different than any other minimap addon. |
| 01:10.12 | aestil | but i'll try it :) |
| 01:10.19 | ckknight | break19: LibStub("AceBucket-3.0"):ICanHasBukkit() |
| 01:10.33 | ckknight | aestil: actively developed ;-) |
| 01:10.38 | ckknight | aestil: I take requests as well |
| 01:10.40 | aestil | parrot needs avion/power aura type ability when you get to it. |
| 01:10.52 | ckknight | I'll be changing Parrot a lot for 2.4 |
| 01:11.00 | break19 | vx = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("EnvenomX", "AceEvent-3.0", "AceBucket-3.0") thats not doing the same thing? |
| 01:11.05 | Yssaril | break19 http://ace.pastey.net/82647 the interval comes first then the call back AceBucket:RegisterBucketEvent(event, interval, callback) |
| 01:11.40 | break19 | Yssaril: ah thanks |
| 01:11.41 | aestil | you can't pretend i wasn't telling you to make that avion/poweraura thing. i've been saying that for months |
| 01:12.12 | Yssaril | break19: np :) |
| 01:13.04 | aestil | what does activly developed mean? |
| 01:13.15 | ckknight | aestil: the author's still around and cares about the adodn |
| 01:13.16 | ckknight | addon* |
| 01:13.24 | ckknight | and there have been recent commits |
| 01:13.43 | aestil | i mean, how would a minimap addon require that? |
| 01:14.17 | ckknight | sometimes things break or you want new features |
| 01:14.25 | aestil | the name is good. |
| 01:14.35 | aestil | don't chincilla's like roll up into a ball. |
| 01:14.50 | aestil | i request that you make it so the minimap animates open and closed on various stimuli |
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| 01:17.01 | stavmar | so i am getting a weird error with quartz, did i miss something..http://ace.pastey.net/82648 |
| 01:18.01 | Ellipsis | stavmar: are you getting any other errors? |
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| 01:18.43 | stavmar | at this time no |
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| 01:19.46 | Ellipsis | are your modules unpacked? (i.e. are there Quartz_Whatever folders in your addons dir, or are they in Quartz\Whatever) |
| 01:20.26 | stavmar | let me check, i have changed nothing for over 6 months with quartz |
| 01:21.02 | stavmar | i do have all teh quartz folders |
| 01:22.45 | Chompers | where? |
| 01:24.04 | Poul|Raider | is bottomscanner working?? i cant get it to pop up with items added to the snatch list? |
| 01:24.57 | RaydenUni | how come mobs in wow don't have group buffs? |
| 01:25.03 | RaydenUni | so you could kill those guys first |
| 01:26.21 | break19 | why is this giving L = nil error? anyone? http://ace.pastey.net/82649 sorry to keep pestering lol |
| 01:29.12 | Diao | hm |
| 01:29.22 | Diao | why does /print <something> just print that exactly |
| 01:29.37 | Diao | how do you print something to chatframe after eval? |
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| 01:31.09 | Thrae|Work | break19: Is enUS.lua being loaded before vx.lua in your TOC file? |
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| 01:31.27 | break19 | Thrae|Work: lemme check. |
| 01:31.54 | break19 | no.. |
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| 01:32.14 | Thrae|Work | Common mistake. |
| 01:32.19 | break19 | *mutters something to himself about stupidity and senility* |
| 01:32.44 | Diao | what can i use instead of /print :( |
| 01:33.05 | Ellipsis | try /dump |
| 01:33.10 | Thrae|Work | Diao: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( "your message" ) |
| 01:33.21 | Estil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665394668&sid=1 |
| 01:33.26 | Diao | oh /dump |
| 01:33.26 | Diao | thanks |
| 01:34.18 | ckknight | Diao: /print and /printc |
| 01:34.31 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.37 | Diao | ah |
| 01:34.40 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.24 | break19 | Thrae: might also help if my friggin enUS.lua was in the right EFFING directory.. *cries incessantly* |
| 01:38.04 | break19 | sldj184he9 |
| 01:38.09 | break19 | gddfkjghdf |
| 01:38.20 | ckknight | oh, I thought I had break19's password for a minute, there |
| 01:38.24 | break19 | ck. heh |
| 01:38.51 | break19 | ckknight: it wouldnt have been the first time.. lol |
| 01:38.52 | dylanm | Did I just keylog a ho |
| 01:38.55 | break19 | nor the second.. :) |
| 01:39.18 | Thrae|Work | Hmmm, what's a good use of combo points as a Feral Druid when you kill things too fast? Maim + Shred? |
| 01:39.28 | break19 | nah, i was just hittin random keys.. irritated because of stupidity in Lua |
| 01:40.19 | Aens|Superiority | Thrae: grinding world mobs? Dont bother |
| 01:40.57 | Aens|Superiority | just keep pounding mangle and keep the extra energy for the next pull |
| 01:41.43 | break19 | now, if I could just figure out why the hell I cant seem to unregister any of the events I register.. |
| 01:41.50 | break19 | i'd be allll set |
| 01:42.02 | NeoTron | it's always fun when you post your password for 250 random people on the internet to see |
| 01:42.17 | break19 | NeoTron: heh |
| 01:42.23 | RaydenUni | i'm only 51 but i do ravage, mangle, rake all in a row (if i hit ravage right before it ticks) until i get 4-5 points depending onw how my crits go and then rip or bite |
| 01:42.52 | RaydenUni | if you are killing stuff too fast then i'm not sure combo points matter... |
| 01:42.58 | NeoTron | rip if it's worth it. Otherwise don't waste the energy |
| 01:43.26 | ckknight | question wrt 2.4 combat log: Does it provide any information about a unit's server, say in cross-battleground BGs? |
| 01:44.29 | NeoTron | Ferocious Bite might kill the target you're on faster, but I think overal it might have a negative effect on killing speed |
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| 01:45.03 | break19 | in my onenable I registered an event to call another function when I leave combat, with a single command: self:UnRegisterBucketEvent(bucketlist), and I get the method is nil... |
| 01:45.09 | NeoTron | mind you I haven't druided since pre-bc :) |
| 01:46.15 | break19 | ok, lemme ask this another way.. I register this bucket event: self:RegisterBucketEvent(bucketlist, 2.0, "CheckEnvenom"), how do I then UnRegister it? |
| 01:46.46 | Thrae|Work | RaydenUni: I've found that it's far more damaging to open with Pounce, then Mangle, and throw in a Shred before the stun wears off. Ravage has become very situational in PvE and even PvP. |
| 01:47.43 | Kivin | I use pounce as well, currently 49 |
| 01:47.46 | Thrae|Work | I kill so fast, I usually throw in a 2 or 3 point Rip. With Mangle up, it's definately not wasted energy. |
| 01:47.50 | Kivin | I start with pounce + 2x Shred |
| 01:48.14 | break19 | meh.. |
| 01:48.15 | Kivin | I hardly ever bite. Generally just to finish off my target |
| 01:48.28 | Ellipsis | I don't bite either, unless they're into that |
| 01:48.52 | Thrae|Work | Kivin: I think Mangle works on each DoT tic as it occurs, not needed before the cast, so Mangle + Shred is better and uses less energy then Shred + Shred |
| 01:49.20 | Kivin | I don't have mangle |
| 01:49.26 | Thrae|Work | Oh, well then there you go |
| 01:49.39 | Kivin | It's a 41 pt talent and i'm 49 |
| 01:49.48 | Thrae|Work | Right, right |
| 01:51.12 | Kivin | the pitbull mob hp module is awsome for pvp |
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| 01:51.20 | Kivin | i love seeing mages with 5500 hp |
| 01:51.44 | RaydenUni | one hit kills? |
| 01:52.08 | break19 | hey Thrae, you're good at this.. http://ace.pastey.net/82651 - both events are firing, but when the leavecombat event fires, I get [2008/02/19 19:49:34-404-x1]: EnvenomX\core.lua:35: attempt to call method 'UnRegisterBucketEvent' (a nil value) - what am I missing here? |
| 01:52.18 | Kivin | not quite one, but certainly two |
| 01:53.15 | Thrae|Work | break19: Unregister, not UnRegister |
| 01:53.23 | break19 | ohhhhh ok |
| 01:53.37 | break19 | see? you're good at this.. lol |
| 01:53.39 | break19 | thanks :) |
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| 01:58.52 | xyu` | i just recently updated pitbul, and my scorch debuff targets are not showing up for some mobs. |
| 01:59.01 | xyu` | and the debuffs are kind of spread out a little weird. |
| 01:59.23 | xyu` | just some mobs, some are fine. |
| 02:01.10 | Diao | lune come do pvp with us :( |
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| 02:11.10 | Thrae|Work | (9:09:22 PM) dylanm: Thrae: Small typo in TT -- line 447 should have GetAddOnInfo, not GetAddonInfo. <-- can anyone with dev access fix this for me? I'm at work right now. |
| 02:11.36 | Kivin | in what? |
| 02:11.45 | Thrae|Work | TT == TinyTip |
| 02:11.58 | Kivin | trunk/TinyTip? |
| 02:12.02 | Thrae|Work | Right. |
| 02:12.17 | Kivin | k |
| 02:12.24 | Thrae|Work | Serves me right for drycoding right before I had to head out for work to quell some complaints. |
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| 02:13.27 | Kivin | the line number odesn't match |
| 02:13.29 | Kivin | doesn't* |
| 02:13.43 | mikma | Thrae|Work: where is the TT you need modded? |
| 02:14.05 | Kivin | it's 477 |
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| 02:14.24 | dylanm | You know what I mean :p I didn't copy it straight up. |
| 02:15.08 | Kivin | oh, apparently i don't have write access |
| 02:15.19 | dylanm | Should have just been like THRAE ITS BROKEN HALP |
| 02:16.27 | Thrae|Work | mikma: Wowace SVN trunk |
| 02:16.54 | Thrae|Work | I think there's Wow API syntax hightlighing for Vim somewhere...I should check |
| 02:17.14 | mikma | svn: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 02:17.15 | mikma | svn: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/62109/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 02:18.00 | Thrae|Work | Hmmm, I thought deleting the directory would give public access back. I guess an admin would be the only one who could do it. |
| 02:18.07 | Thrae|Work | Bah, lemme see if I can get svn standalone. |
| 02:19.18 | Mikk | Thrae|Work: what do you need done? |
| 02:19.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, so, I threw rose petals on Supremus. |
| 02:19.40 | Thrae|Work | Line 477 should read "GetAddOnInfo", not "GetAddonInfo" |
| 02:19.50 | Thrae|Work | In trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua |
| 02:19.52 | ZealotOnAStick | it was great, except then some people couldn't see the volcanoes. Woops. |
| 02:19.57 | Mikk | I meant permission wise |
| 02:21.02 | Thrae|Work | I asked for TinyTip to be only open to people I give access to. Right now, it's only me and the admins. |
| 02:21.07 | Mikk | Okay |
| 02:21.10 | Mikk | Gimme names |
| 02:21.36 | Mikk | (actually, right now, it's only you - not even admins) |
| 02:21.59 | Thrae|Work | Put mikma and the admins on the list for now. |
| 02:22.03 | CIA-12 | 03break19 * r62154 10EnvenomX/ (EnvenomX.toc core.lua embeds.xml enUS.lua libs/): |
| 02:22.03 | CIA-12 | EnvenomX: |
| 02:22.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.10 | CIA-12 | 03mikma * r62155 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: TinyTip.lua: 477: GetAddonInfo -> GetAddOnInfo |
| 02:24.20 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 02:26.09 | Thrae|Work | mikma, Mikk: Thanks much :) |
| 02:26.35 | mikma | Thrae|Work: np :) |
| 02:26.39 | mikma | btw, http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5418/ |
| 02:27.19 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r62156 10Xparky/Xparky.lua: Xparky - Fix spark positioning |
| 02:28.06 | Thrae|Work | mikma: How does that relate to me? |
| 02:28.11 | Yssaril | mikk do you have any ida how to add a message to the aceconfigdialog error framething on the bottom? |
| 02:28.21 | mikma | Thrae|Work: it doesn't, that's why i put it in a different line :D |
| 02:29.29 | Stanzilla | MSBT 5.1 Alpha 1 is now available for use on the 2.4 Patch PTR. < ZOMG |
| 02:29.33 | Mikk | Yssaril: sorry, no, you'd have to bug narg about that |
| 02:29.45 | Mikk | though it's not really controllable from the aceconfig structure |
| 02:30.03 | Yssaril | want to do it from within a custom widget :P |
| 02:31.03 | Mikk | ah |
| 02:31.39 | durcyn | Stanzilla: gief url |
| 02:31.51 | Stanzilla | http://files.filefront.com/MSBT5+1+Alpha+1zip/;9660657;/fileinfo.html |
| 02:32.19 | durcyn | filefront, god |
| 02:32.34 | Stanzilla | he linked it here: http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=156 |
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| 02:39.38 | Lukian | how did The Curator make it into my topscorefu data? |
| 02:39.40 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r62157 10DaPortrait/modules/Animations.lua: |
| 02:39.40 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 02:39.40 | CIA-12 | - Fix nil error |
| 02:39.45 | Lukian | It's meant to ignore vulnerable mobs |
| 02:40.59 | Yssaril | Lukian: old version maybe? |
| 02:41.17 | Lukian | Yssaril, no it should be up to date :( |
| 02:41.32 | Yssaril | hmm that sucks /cry |
| 02:42.47 | Yssaril | you running US client or another language? |
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| 02:45.55 | Yssaril | lukian are you running a different language then enUS? |
| 02:46.28 | Groktar-Impulse | i respecced fury and now they won't let me into tonight's raid |
| 02:46.31 | Groktar-Impulse | yay for offnight! |
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| 02:46.58 | Yssaril | Groktar-Impulse: isnt fury > arms dps wise for raids? |
| 02:47.08 | Diao | not necessarily |
| 02:47.21 | Diao | fury is better individual dps (usually) but arms provides raid buff |
| 02:47.29 | Yssaril | ic |
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| 02:50.34 | Lukian | Yssaril, nope |
| 02:51.07 | Lukian | Is topscorefu 2.0 the latest? |
| 02:51.08 | Groktar-Impulse | what Diao said |
| 02:52.08 | Yssaril | there is a version 2.0? |
| 02:52.46 | Yssaril | nm it is 2.0 |
| 02:54.48 | Yssaril | idk Lukian i guess reupdate from files.wowace.com |
| 02:55.17 | Yssaril | and make sure you have the updated babble libs |
| 02:58.03 | Lukian | yeah I defintely have updated babblelibs :/ |
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| 03:08.39 | WobWork | #kawaii |
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| 03:10.18 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021908_200538-m.jpg |
| 03:13.42 | Yssaril | Antiarc: that is sweet but where or others on the list? |
| 03:14.08 | Yssaril | aoe mode that is :) |
| 03:14.18 | Antiarc | AOE mode is only your threat vs all known targets |
| 03:14.24 | keiss | whats the difference between AOE and Healer mode ? |
| 03:14.25 | Yssaril | ahhh |
| 03:14.30 | WobWork | damage vs healing? |
| 03:14.30 | Groktar-Impulse | that's cool |
| 03:14.45 | Antiarc | Healer mode shows all the highest-threat targets in the group |
| 03:14.55 | WobWork | how do you pick up mobs that haven't been targeted yet? |
| 03:15.05 | keiss | WobWork: well , threat is threat no matter where it came from , right ? |
| 03:15.05 | Antiarc | Just by GUID, from the combat log |
| 03:15.07 | Yssaril | Antiarc: how about showing the name and threat of the person holding the mob or closest one if you are holding it? |
| 03:15.16 | Antiarc | I'm thinking of doing that as well |
| 03:15.31 | Yssaril | Antiarc: would make it more usefull imo :) |
| 03:15.51 | Groktar-Impulse | that would be pro for hyjal trash |
| 03:15.56 | Antiarc | That's the idea |
| 03:16.00 | WobWork | actually what would be good, is having a name in the bars for the global/aoe threat lists |
| 03:16.04 | WobWork | with people targetting that mob |
| 03:16.09 | Yssaril | do it kinda like the pullouts for omen 1 works 2 bars overlayed |
| 03:16.13 | Antiarc | That's really hard to do right now |
| 03:16.18 | Antiarc | The people targeting |
| 03:16.21 | WobWork | so with multiple mobs you'll be able to pull the target of target |
| 03:16.30 | Antiarc | But AlexanderYoshi might get my UnitGUID so I can do it :D |
| 03:16.31 | WobWork | maybe who has aggro on that |
| 03:17.04 | WobWork | I was in a failed Heroic BF run the other day |
| 03:17.09 | WobWork | and I'd have loved that =\ |
| 03:17.11 | Yssaril | WobWork: how does people targeting mob helps during aoe? |
| 03:17.23 | WobWork | well not necessarily for the aoe'r |
| 03:17.27 | Yssaril | i tend to target a random mob if any |
| 03:18.05 | WobWork | maybe I'm not thinking through this right |
| 03:18.26 | Yssaril | Antiarc: on that not definatly need something to show your threat on each mob compared to the aoe tank 9agro holder) |
| 03:18.38 | Yssaril | *on that note :) |
| 03:18.51 | Antiarc | Yssaril: That's basically what AOE mode dies |
| 03:18.53 | Antiarc | does( |
| 03:18.54 | Antiarc | does* |
| 03:19.09 | Antiarc | Your threat / max threat per mob |
| 03:19.26 | Yssaril | ahhh |
| 03:19.45 | WobWork | 100% means -you- have aggro? |
| 03:19.55 | Antiarc | Not necessarily, but if you don't you will soon :) |
| 03:20.03 | Antiarc | If I do get UnitGUID I can do some cool stuff |
| 03:20.06 | Yssaril | maybe distinguish bar color so that it turns a distinkt color when you gain agro cause i can sit at 129% threat and still nto pull :) |
| 03:20.12 | WobWork | Dog and Pony Show? |
| 03:20.31 | Antiarc | Yssaril: That's not really possible, since you can't tell if a mob is targeting you unless you or someone in the raid is targeting -it- |
| 03:20.40 | Antiarc | Plus, that's what Banzai is for ;) |
| 03:21.08 | Yssaril | bahh wtb function to iterate over mobs targeting me :) |
| 03:21.21 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 03:21.25 | Ellipsis | never gonna happen |
| 03:21.31 | WobWork | sadly true |
| 03:21.55 | Yssaril | bah jsut cause people will cry about it during pvp |
| 03:22.06 | Ellipsis | no |
| 03:22.14 | Ellipsis | that information probably isn't even available to the client |
| 03:22.18 | Ellipsis | let alone the lua api |
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| 03:22.26 | WobWork | Well... |
| 03:22.32 | WobWork | you -could- iterate over all known mobs |
| 03:23.32 | Yssaril | Antiarc: how about change it to assume if it hurts you you have agro on it? (make a module of it and add npc aoe spell id's to ignore :) ) |
| 03:24.50 | Ellipsis | how about just ask Banzai |
| 03:25.03 | Yssaril | whatever works i guess :) |
| 03:25.20 | WobWork | hm |
| 03:25.21 | WobWork | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html |
| 03:25.23 | WobWork | interesting |
| 03:25.38 | Yssaril | Antiarc: any possiblities of people writing custom modules for omen on how data is being displayed? |
| 03:26.30 | Antiarc | Yssaril: Yup. Each of those modes is a module. |
| 03:26.37 | Antiarc | You can write your own modules pretty easily. |
| 03:26.57 | Yssaril | and we are gonna get some sort of wiki page with a nice explanation/api on how to? |
| 03:27.29 | WobWork | Come now |
| 03:27.32 | WobWork | It's an Ace project |
| 03:27.40 | WobWork | what's this documentation that you speak of? |
| 03:28.03 | Thrae|Work | Wikis are for the open sharing of ideas and information. So of course Antiarc will post on the wiki. |
| 03:28.03 | Antiarc | The code is the doc! :V |
| 03:28.05 | Yssaril | fine jsut stick the documentation in between your omen lua code :P |
| 03:28.14 | Thrae|Work | He'll post that someone should write a documentation for it. |
| 03:28.24 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 03:28.55 | Thrae|Work | That's sharing an idea and information right there -- the idea that someone should write documentation, and the information that no clear documentation yet exists. |
| 03:29.13 | WobWork | Now we are all equally aware of the requirement for documentation! |
| 03:29.15 | WobWork | Job done =) |
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| 03:29.28 | WobWork | Man, we make a great committee =P |
| 03:29.47 | Yssaril | woot |
| 03:30.03 | WobWork | Next task on the agenda: |
| 03:30.09 | WobWork | Redesign the platypus |
| 03:30.40 | Yssaril | want me to start the wiki ? simple one liner i thing "Documentation Needed!" |
| 03:30.40 | Chompers | it need to be made less awesome |
| 03:30.40 | ausmara | Ellipsis are you around? |
| 03:30.44 | Thrae|Work | We should have a meeting discussing the standards for documentation requests, a pre-meeting to decide if standards are appropriate. |
| 03:30.46 | Chompers | one creature is not allowed to have that much awesome all to itsself |
| 03:31.07 | Thrae|Work | s#a pre-#and a pre-# |
| 03:31.13 | Antiarc | If you want, take a look at the AOE module |
| 03:31.15 | Antiarc | It's the simplest |
| 03:31.27 | Yssaril | Thrae|Work: that sounds like a standardized meeting i dont like it |
| 03:31.49 | Thrae|Work | Let's have a preliminary pre-meeting to decide whether the meetings are too standardized. |
| 03:32.09 | WobWork | we'll need to standardise the prelim pre meeting process though first |
| 03:32.24 | WobWork | otherwise: |
| 03:32.27 | WobWork | utter chaos |
| 03:32.31 | WobWork | (tm) |
| 03:32.33 | Thrae|Work | So a proactive preliminary pre-meeting. |
| 03:33.17 | Thrae|Work | There should be a Tauren boss who casts a spell called "Udder Chaos". |
| 03:34.16 | Paradox_ | lol |
| 03:34.40 | WobWork | Makes all tauren in the raid spontaneously lactate? |
| 03:35.23 | Yssaril | local meeting = 'meeting'; function standard(meeting) while meeting == standard or meeting ~= standard do function('premeeting') end how about that for generating the meetings? |
| 03:36.07 | WobWork | needs more generics |
| 03:36.25 | Yssaril | need to standardize generics first imo |
| 03:36.51 | Thrae|Work | WobWork: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=134 |
| 03:37.44 | WobWork | Thrae|Work: XKCD has spoilt me |
| 03:37.54 | WobWork | I'm forever mousing over webcomics for the witty alt text |
| 03:38.00 | Thrae|Work | Heh |
| 03:38.09 | Thrae|Work | One of the things I hate about Firefox |
| 03:38.39 | WobWork | yeah |
| 03:38.46 | WobWork | I had to install that multiline fix |
| 03:38.53 | WobWork | although FF3 does it natively I think |
| 03:39.29 | WobWork | aw maybe not |
| 03:39.38 | WobWork | oh wait, this is 2 |
| 03:43.20 | Yssaril | wobwork what is broke in FF2? let me check it in FF3b3 |
| 03:44.26 | Gngsk | so anyone raided with the msbt alpha on test? |
| 03:46.22 | WobWork | multiline alt text tags |
| 03:46.32 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62158 10PitBull/Aura/Options.lua: PitBull_Aura: typo fixes (solves PB-255) |
| 03:46.43 | Yssaril | hmm i think they work on FF3b3 |
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| 03:46.56 | WobWork | I was under that impression also |
| 03:47.24 | Yssaril | like when u mouseover the middle part of http://xkcd.com/124/ |
| 03:47.32 | WobWork | http://www.xkcd.com/384/ |
| 03:47.55 | Arrowmaster | works in seamonkey for me |
| 03:48.06 | Arrowmaster | but i cant remember if i installed something for that or not |
| 03:48.26 | WobWork | I recall doing something for that |
| 03:48.34 | WobWork | for full xkcd enjoyment |
| 03:48.59 | Yssaril | works on FF3b3 although the tooltip borders dont quite match the width of the text |
| 03:49.03 | Arrowmaster | i remember an extension that did it in addition to making alt text so when there was no title text |
| 03:49.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah tooltip border is too long for me too |
| 03:50.12 | Yssaril | its a 3 liner in IE but a 2 liner in FF3b3 |
| 03:50.20 | Yssaril | so its still kinda buggy i guess |
| 03:52.17 | WobWork | FF3b3 is smileyman compliant though =) |
| 03:52.27 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:52.40 | Yssaril | smileyman? |
| 03:52.46 | Arrowmaster | acid2 |
| 03:52.58 | Yssaril | ahhh lol |
| 03:53.08 | WobWork | Most people don't know it's a smileyman |
| 03:53.15 | WobWork | cause they've never seen it in a compliant browser =P |
| 03:53.42 | Arrowmaster | im going to laugh when ie8 comes out and it fails it because it doesnt have the special meta tag to say it should render in compliant mode |
| 03:54.01 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 03:54.28 | Yssaril | yea IE7 certainly butchers the smiley :) |
| 03:54.35 | Arrowmaster | and then when somebody does make a copy and adds the meta tag it will still fail because it shows a working scrollbar or something |
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| 03:56.34 | Kivin | Thrae: Ping |
| 04:12.22 | break19 | has anyone ever done any CPU profiling/comparison of the various SCT mods? |
| 04:12.40 | Kivin | Parrot uses the most resources, hands down. Don't need tools to figure that out. |
| 04:13.18 | Kivin | I suspect msbt is more costly than SCT just because it's more featureful. But neither use a noticable amount of resources on my system |
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| 04:14.38 | break19 | more features dont always mean more CPU.. memory means nothing to me.. I have 2G on this little ibook.. but cpu does... |
| 04:14.56 | Kivin | MSBT does a lot more stuff on the screen, which makes me thing it *probably* uses more cpu |
| 04:15.36 | Kivin | Both SCT and MSBT are very efficient at what they do |
| 04:16.10 | Zhinjio | Advice for Tidewalker? |
| 04:16.22 | WobWork | Slip slop slap |
| 04:18.46 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r62159 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Minor syntax fix |
| 04:19.45 | WobWork | piranther... a large cat that travels in packs and can strip a cow to bones in 5 minutes? |
| 04:21.24 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r62160 10Chinchilla/locale/koKR.lua: |
| 04:21.24 | CIA-12 | Chinchilla : |
| 04:21.24 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:23.55 | break19 | anyone bored enough (and knowledgeable enough) to look over one of me addons, and give me an honest opinion (and point me towards tips for bettering it) ? |
| 04:24.28 | Kivin | I can look at specific things |
| 04:24.51 | break19 | Kivin: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/EnvenomX/ |
| 04:25.24 | Kivin | what am i looking atl |
| 04:26.30 | break19 | basically, it checks your current target for YOUR application of Deadly Poison, and when you have 5, and 5 combo pts, uses Sink to print "Envenom!!" to the screen |
| 04:27.25 | Kivin | sink = LibStub("Sink-1.0") should localize that |
| 04:28.01 | break19 | how would that be localized? since when do addon names change? |
| 04:28.07 | Kivin | add local to the beginning |
| 04:28.16 | Kivin | you're saying "global sink = LibStub(whatever)" |
| 04:28.23 | break19 | ohh.. LOCALized.. I was thinking Locale-ized |
| 04:28.24 | break19 | lol |
| 04:28.30 | Kivin | yeah |
| 04:29.11 | Kivin | do return count end <- in CountPoisons doesn't need do..end |
| 04:29.23 | Kivin | if duration and string.find(whatever) then return count end |
| 04:29.24 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r62161 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFuLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 04:29.24 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu : |
| 04:29.24 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:30.41 | Kivin | CountPoisons() should return a valid number even if it doesn't find any stacks of envenom |
| 04:30.47 | Kivin | since you're comparing it's return value with a number later on |
| 04:30.51 | Kivin | if cp==5 and dp==5 then |
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| 04:31.42 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/82662 |
| 04:31.48 | break19 | Kivin: i thought about that.. but.. I've never gotten a nil error with the code... |
| 04:32.17 | WobWork | break19: I've actually got MSBT to do that for me =\ |
| 04:32.21 | Kivin | I'm not sure positively what causes it, but I've got "attempt to compare number with nil" plenty of times |
| 04:32.34 | Kivin | WobWork: So have I. But I try not to tell people do to things a certain way.. |
| 04:33.11 | break19 | WobWork: when I first wrote this, MSBT didnt check if the applications were your own.. less than a week after my initial commit, he changed it.. :P |
| 04:34.44 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:34.47 | break19 | Kivin: kk.. anything else of note? |
| 04:34.52 | Kivin | don't think so |
| 04:34.55 | WobWork | PS |
| 04:34.55 | WobWork | http://ten.com.au/ten/gnw-video.html |
| 04:34.57 | WobWork | Win |
| 04:35.06 | WobWork | GNW is the best show ever =P |
| 04:35.07 | break19 | Kivin: thanks much :) |
| 04:35.20 | WobWork | possbily a little non-topical for non aussies |
| 04:35.28 | Kivin | If you really wanted to be anal about efficiency, you could check cp==5 before calling vx:CountPoisons() |
| 04:35.45 | Kivin | so, you can change vx: to self: |
| 04:36.38 | Kivin | oh, localize GetComboPoints() |
| 04:36.49 | Kivin | local GetComboPoints = GetComboPoints <- at the top |
| 04:37.02 | Kivin | and take the _G. out of the method |
| 04:37.24 | CIA-12 | 03break19 * r62162 10EnvenomX/core.lua: EnvenomX: Minor code optimization (thanks Kivin) |
| 04:37.41 | break19 | kk |
| 04:37.49 | Kivin | I hate globals :P |
| 04:39.30 | kebinusan | bleh my buff/debuff positions got reset on pitbull |
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| 04:42.50 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 04:42.59 | RaydenUni | been ganked about 5 times at the ungoro flightpoint |
| 04:43.02 | keiss | hehe defining a frame element with same name= and inherits= by accident sux ... WoW doesn't recover from it |
| 04:43.05 | RaydenUni | it sucks that ungoro is so far away from everything |
| 04:43.10 | RaydenUni | will take a long time to fly my 70 down there |
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| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r62163 10Chinchilla/locale/koKR.lua: |
| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | Chinchilla : |
| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 04:52.44 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu : |
| 04:52.44 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:53.11 | HotFO-blama | Hey all. I'm getting an error on login with Quartz. Anyone know what I should do? http://ace.pastey.net/82663 |
| 04:53.22 | HotFO-blama | It won't use any of my saved settings |
| 04:53.28 | *** join/#wowace MIK3M4N (n=none@NTL208H101-109-112.nt.net) |
| 04:54.49 | MIK3M4N | with bartender3, is it possible to NOT hide the blizz actionbar on the bottom? I just need more buttons off to the side |
| 04:55.51 | Kivin | don't think so |
| 04:56.17 | break19 | HotFO-blama: well.. do you have any media installed? the addons called "SharedMedia-2.0" et al? |
| 04:57.33 | HotFO-blama | Yes, I have had it |
| 04:57.49 | HotFO-blama | But I don't keep it updated, because I have custom textures in it |
| 04:58.11 | break19 | was it working before? and what did you do just before it -stopped- working? |
| 04:58.23 | HotFO-blama | I don't know |
| 04:58.25 | MIK3M4N | I tried flexbar2, but its too hard to configure with no gui, atm, any other simple mods that would give me 2 extra verticle action bars (12 button)? |
| 04:58.25 | Ellipsis | try setting your cast bar/border textures again |
| 04:58.34 | Ellipsis | it's trying to access a nil texture somewhere |
| 04:58.36 | HotFO-blama | It happened in the middle of a load |
| 04:59.06 | Ellipsis | MIK3M4N: default UI? |
| 04:59.10 | break19 | HotFO-blama: quite possible your sv's are trashed.. back them up, and then delete them.. if it works, then thats the problem. |
| 04:59.44 | break19 | MIK3M4N: you realize, that with the default UI, you can have 6 bars showing at once, right? |
| 04:59.45 | MIK3M4N | Ell> default ui has 2x12, im looking for 4x12 |
| 04:59.47 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: sec i think i found the problem |
| 05:00.01 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: ignore break19 for now |
| 05:00.17 | HotFO-blama | lol ok |
| 05:00.28 | Ellipsis | for now? you mean we're not always supposed to ignore him? |
| 05:01.05 | break19 | Ellipsis: hell no... you want I should stick my boot up your ass? oh wait..yea.. you prolly do.. heh |
| 05:01.08 | MIK3M4N | break> not looking for scrolling bars though |
| 05:01.44 | MIK3M4N | I need 4x12 verticle bars off to the right :) |
| 05:01.59 | break19 | MIK3M4N: dude.. ok, I miscounted.. 5 bars.. 2 on the right, vertically, 2 on the bottom left horizontal, one on the bottom right, horizontal |
| 05:02.13 | Ellipsis | break19: kinky~ |
| 05:02.21 | break19 | Ellipsis: meh |
| 05:02.23 | break19 | lol |
| 05:02.39 | Thorgard | MIK3M4N, deafult Blizz UI has 5x12 actionbars.. what break19 said |
| 05:02.58 | Thorgard | Just gotta enable them in the user interface settings. |
| 05:03.09 | break19 | MIK3M4N: interface options->advanced-> check show bottom right, check show bottom left, check show right, check show right 2 |
| 05:03.15 | MIK3M4N | break> yeah I realize that, but not the layout that I want, this is frustrating |
| 05:03.27 | Ellipsis | if you need more buttons than Blizz gives you, you need an addon like FlexBar2 which doesn't use action IDs |
| 05:03.44 | break19 | not the layout you want.. QQ more, or install a barmod and move em EXACTLY where you want em.. |
| 05:04.26 | MIK3M4N | barmod, cool I will check that one out :) thx |
| 05:04.32 | CIA-12 | 03arrowmaster * r62165 10Quartz/Pet/Quartz_Pet.toc: Quartz: Pet: the Pet module requires the Player module so lets make sure it loads first |
| 05:04.50 | Thorgard | :o |
| 05:05.11 | break19 | "that one", uh, did I name a specific mod? no.. I said "a bar mod" as opposed to "a unit frame mod" or "a map mod" |
| 05:05.15 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: in 20 minutes try updating with WAU again |
| 05:05.28 | MIK3M4N | oh |
| 05:05.35 | break19 | bartender3 = "a bar mod", so does trinitybars2, so does flexbar2, so does bongos2, shall I continue? |
| 05:06.06 | break19 | Ellipsis: it wont work.. im irritated and need sleep |
| 05:06.25 | MIK3M4N | how about listing a simple one that can do 4x12 on the right side without breaking the blizz bottom bar? |
| 05:06.28 | Ellipsis | well, at least I tried |
| 05:06.35 | MIK3M4N | do you know of one? |
| 05:06.39 | break19 | MIK3M4N: /dev/nul |
| 05:06.40 | Kivin | try bongos? |
| 05:06.52 | Ellipsis | MIK3M4N: there isn't one, unless you're willing to set up FlexBar2. |
| 05:07.15 | MIK3M4N | Ell> ok thx |
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| 05:08.20 | MIK3M4N | I never tried bongos, will that override blizz as well Ellipsis? |
| 05:08.47 | break19 | I havent found one that doesnt.. |
| 05:08.49 | Ellipsis | yes, it will hide the Blizz bottom bar |
| 05:09.09 | break19 | I've used just about every bar mod there is.. |
| 05:09.21 | Ellipsis | most "full" action bar addons do, since they're meant to be replacements (and many people think the art just gets in the way) |
| 05:09.50 | CIA-12 | 03nemes * r62166 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: |
| 05:09.50 | CIA-12 | NDragIt: |
| 05:09.50 | CIA-12 | - TalentFrame -> PlayerTalentFrame |
| 05:09.50 | CIA-12 | - PetPaperDollFrame now a child frame |
| 05:09.50 | CIA-12 | - Remove loot/roll frames - they just weren't working |
| 05:09.51 | CIA-12 | - Reset all settings with this new version |
| 05:10.05 | Kivin | not to mention most bar addons' buttons share the same "code" as the blizzard buttons, so it doesn't make sense to have both visible |
| 05:10.45 | Kivin | fb2 and tb2 are the only ones i know of that are fully independent of the blizzard buttons |
| 05:10.48 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, how is that thingy going? |
| 05:10.48 | Guillotine | Math problem for y'all :) Its in wowi as well, but nobody has figured it out as of yet. "Identify the x coordinate of the two points closest to 0 where the graphs of cos(x) where x is in degrees and the graph of cos(x) where x is in radians both intersect the x-axis" |
| 05:11.20 | break19 | fb2(supercustomizable, pain in the ass to set up), trinity2(very nice, not quite as customizable as fb2, but VERY close, and much easier to set up), bongos2, bartender3, the new bartender4 beta(nowhere near ready for public use from what I can see), ctbarmod(rofl...) |
| 05:11.21 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: update in 10 minutes |
| 05:11.34 | MIK3M4N | ok, thx for your help guys. The reason I need more buttons is because I use the right action bars as my combat bars... I havent met anyone else that does this, but I cant use the bottom for combat |
| 05:12.02 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, you're awesome. |
| 05:12.03 | Ellipsis | what are you, a clicker or something? |
| 05:12.26 | break19 | "can't" i hate that word.. unless that side of your screen is messed up on your monitor.. I fail to see how you "cant" use that side.. lol |
| 05:13.18 | MIK3M4N | Ell> yes, im a clicker... break> I take back cant... I prefer to use the right bars |
| 05:13.20 | RaydenUni | how well geared is a lvl 53 mage with 2600 hp? |
| 05:13.25 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r62167 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:13.25 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2:Spell: |
| 05:13.25 | CIA-12 | - added "Find Fish" |
| 05:13.47 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r62168 10PiraPlex/embeds.xml: PiraPlex :- remove AceHook from embeds.xml |
| 05:15.00 | break19 | well.. if I plan on having any chance in HELL of sleeping more than 2 hours, before my 5.5month old wakes up, I'd better get to sleep now.. |
| 05:15.24 | Zhinjio | Tidewalker down! |
| 05:15.30 | Ellipsis | go to bed, break19...you need it :P |
| 05:15.33 | Ellipsis | grats Zhinjio |
| 05:15.59 | Kivin | So one of my guildies complains that TinyTip is broken, earlier |
| 05:16.03 | Kivin | I ask him what error it's causing |
| 05:16.18 | Kivin | "Nothing" |
| 05:16.18 | break19 | Ellipsis: there are lots of things I need.. wife's having.. women's problems atm.. sooo.. I guess sleep will have to do.. night |
| 05:16.22 | Arrowmaster | it is broken |
| 05:16.31 | Kivin | So he makes me spend ten minutes asking questions about why it's not working |
| 05:16.46 | Kivin | Then finally says "Duh, I'm not getting error messages because I use an addon to suppress them." |
| 05:16.50 | Arrowmaster | Thrae put a new version on the svn and didnt put up the module for extra features or even config |
| 05:16.59 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 05:17.08 | Ellipsis | because if the error box doesn't pop up, it's like nothing is wrong! |
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| 05:18.08 | Kivin | Anyone here leveled up a drood? |
| 05:18.18 | Kivin | Especially a feral drood |
| 05:18.29 | HotFO-blama | arrow... make it faster, pew pew |
| 05:18.32 | Recluse | i have 2x 70 feral druids... |
| 05:18.50 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: i cant, the script is setup to update the files every 20 minutes |
| 05:18.53 | Ellipsis | I leveled a drood once... |
| 05:18.59 | Ellipsis | then again, she was resto |
| 05:19.11 | break19 | Kivin: this is why I say people need to take an IQ test before they're allowed to have children.. if you have the IQ of a fig leaf, no kids for you..... should help cut down on the amount of stupid people in the world, another way would be to make warning labels illegal.. if you're stupid enough to not know, that if you use a hair dryer in the bath tub.. you DESERVE to fry. |
| 05:19.14 | Kivin | Recluse: Is putting 51 pts into Feral for Cat Mangle worth it for leveling? Opposed to having 5/5 Furor, 3/3 natural ss, 1/1 omen of clarity? |
| 05:19.27 | ulic | any tips on Kael in MT? with the sphere things? |
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| 05:19.29 | break19 | now, with that off my chest.. Zzzzzz |
| 05:19.31 | HotFO-blama | kivin |
| 05:19.47 | HotFO-blama | http://elitistjerks.com/ |
| 05:19.59 | HotFO-blama | read up on the druid theory craft |
| 05:20.05 | Kivin | HotFO-blama: I don't give a rats ass how to max out my dps at 70 |
| 05:20.09 | Kivin | I'm asking about *leveling* |
| 05:20.12 | HotFO-blama | oh |
| 05:20.28 | HotFO-blama | and cat mangle is worth it |
| 05:20.29 | Kivin | I'm about to hit 51 and I want to know if I should unplug resto for mangle, or keep going to omen of clarity |
| 05:20.40 | Recluse | Kivin: well, you'll get both (should...) by 70, but yeah, i always get mangle |
| 05:20.51 | Recluse | mangle = big dps increase |
| 05:20.54 | Kivin | Mangle first, alright |
| 05:20.58 | Kivin | I'll respec next level |
| 05:21.00 | Kivin | thanks both |
| 05:21.07 | HotFO-blama | no prob |
| 05:21.18 | Kivin | I'm not really interested in 70 because I'll probably spec bloomtard |
| 05:21.23 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:21.26 | HotFO-blama | boomkin!!!! |
| 05:21.32 | Kivin | ieww no |
| 05:21.33 | RaydenUni | Kivin mangle is like... taking a shower in mountain dew while eating prime rib and having a back massage all at the same time |
| 05:21.39 | RaydenUni | if those things were converted to dps |
| 05:21.45 | Kivin | err... |
| 05:21.50 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 05:21.54 | RaydenUni | <-- 53 druid |
| 05:21.57 | Kivin | what if i don't like mountain dew... |
| 05:22.13 | Ellipsis | speaking of druids, anyone got one I can borrow (or feel like using theirs to test for me)? |
| 05:22.25 | Recluse | eh? |
| 05:22.29 | RaydenUni | ravage, mangle, rake, wait for energy, mangle, rip, mangle/rake until dead |
| 05:22.30 | Kivin | Bloomtard is my trademark for any druid that is impossible to kill in PVP because they permastack lifebloom |
| 05:22.37 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 05:22.42 | RaydenUni | dispel ftw |
| 05:22.47 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, you doing any testing on PTR at all? |
| 05:22.50 | Kivin | Bloomtards are almost obsolete since the 2.3 fix |
| 05:22.52 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 05:22.55 | Kivin | But there's still a few of them around |
| 05:22.55 | Recluse | dispel = heals druid |
| 05:22.56 | RaydenUni | no that's the one you can't dispel |
| 05:23.00 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: yes, I'm deving on PTR primarily atm |
| 05:23.12 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, is pitbull config broken for you? |
| 05:23.13 | RaydenUni | why are they obsolete? |
| 05:23.17 | HotFO-blama | I still can't make a character on the PTR |
| 05:23.23 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: not at all, are you having issues? |
| 05:23.26 | Kivin | Because blizz fixed the bloomtarded bug with lifebloom |
| 05:23.32 | Kivin | that made bloomtards invincible |
| 05:23.51 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, http://gngsk.pastey.net/82661 |
| 05:24.03 | RaydenUni | why is the item for Morrowgrain Research on a 10 min cooldown? :( |
| 05:24.04 | Ellipsis | you have an old rock lib somewhere |
| 05:24.11 | Ellipsis | update all your rock addons |
| 05:24.52 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, did you update Quartz or Sharedmedia? |
| 05:24.57 | Arrowmaster | quartz |
| 05:25.10 | HotFO-blama | ok |
| 05:25.17 | Gngsk | yah, 40416 seems ancient, but I just updated via wau |
| 05:25.22 | Gngsk | prolly an issue there |
| 05:25.26 | Arrowmaster | perty sure i found the problem and fixed it but im not 100% sure |
| 05:25.28 | HotFO-blama | I wish Hal's textures were included in SharedMedia by defualt |
| 05:25.42 | Kivin | I hvae my own sharedmedia module that i add all my custom stuff to |
| 05:25.43 | HotFO-blama | Yeah, I would test it but it still hasn't rolled over |
| 05:25.43 | Ellipsis | make sure your fubar doesn't have a .svn dir or anything |
| 05:26.08 | HotFO-blama | My Fubar does... I downloaded the one from the thread... don't use the one on the svn |
| 05:26.51 | CIA-12 | 03benumbed * r62169 10DaPortrait/Constants.lua: |
| 05:26.51 | CIA-12 | DaPortrait: |
| 05:26.51 | CIA-12 | - Fixed a few model positions |
| 05:27.09 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, will it show the update here when it gets through? |
| 05:27.21 | Ellipsis | HotFO-blama: it already did |
| 05:27.25 | HotFO-blama | Ohp |
| 05:27.28 | HotFO-blama | Im dumb |
| 05:27.36 | Ellipsis | [9:03:58 pm] <CIA-12> arrowmaster * r62165 Quartz/Pet/Quartz_Pet.toc: Quartz: Pet: the Pet module requires the Player module so lets make sure it loads first |
| 05:28.09 | HotFO-blama | your off by 3 hours there |
| 05:28.11 | HotFO-blama | :P |
| 05:28.42 | Ellipsis | I apologize, I know I'm personally responsible for the existence of time zones, and I really wish I could take it all back. |
| 05:28.51 | HotFO-blama | lol |
| 05:29.11 | HotFO-blama | i would love to be able to travel back and forth between time zones at super speed |
| 05:29.14 | HotFO-blama | more daylight |
| 05:29.21 | RaydenUni | why must this quest give a blue mail and plate boots but no leather boots? :( |
| 05:29.33 | WobWork | Because it hates you |
| 05:29.45 | durcyn | it has excellent taste in people. |
| 05:29.56 | Yssaril | Guillotine: ping |
| 05:29.57 | Kivin | Supposedly in the near future, Fedex wants to start transporting international packages in space. It would expedite their travel so much that they could guarantee delivery yesterday. |
| 05:30.05 | Guillotine | Yssaril: pong |
| 05:30.20 | Guillotine | Kivin: lol |
| 05:30.32 | Yssaril | Guillotine: 6.3947955 |
| 05:30.41 | Guillotine | wrong |
| 05:31.03 | Guillotine | If a calculator says that, its a rounding error :) |
| 05:31.07 | HotFO-blama | I think it might be the same error Arrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/82664 |
| 05:31.18 | Yssaril | is it close at least? |
| 05:32.09 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, thx yah, fubar was the culprit |
| 05:32.27 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: hmm |
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| 05:33.14 | HotFO-blama | Quartz is also not showing options for the Mirror bar |
| 05:33.17 | Guillotine | Yssaril: nope |
| 05:33.23 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r62170 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:33.23 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:33.23 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:33.24 | Guillotine | Yssaril: well, kind of |
| 05:33.24 | Yssaril | bah |
| 05:33.44 | Guillotine | Yssaril: Its really a bad question :P Theres only 1 answer |
| 05:33.47 | Guillotine | The other part is to prove why there is no other |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r62171 10Omen/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-12 | Omen: |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-12 | - Add Warnings w/ options to Single Target Module |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-12 | - Add aggro gain bar w/ options to Single Target module |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-12 | - Add Media.lua, use to insert custom media into SML for Omen's usage |
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| 05:38.15 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster |
| 05:38.38 | Arrowmaster | how many quartz folders do you have in your addons folder? |
| 05:38.48 | HotFO-blama | I actually might have figured out the problem |
| 05:39.06 | HotFO-blama | I have LibSharedMedia-2.0 and SharedMediaLib and SharedMedia |
| 05:39.14 | HotFO-blama | all in the Addons Folder |
| 05:39.28 | HotFO-blama | im guessing something is wrong there |
| 05:39.31 | Ellipsis | no |
| 05:39.34 | Ellipsis | that's fine |
| 05:39.37 | HotFO-blama | darn |
| 05:39.40 | HotFO-blama | i was so hopeful |
| 05:39.41 | Arrowmaster | well you dont have SharedMedia-2.0 |
| 05:39.46 | HotFO-blama | yeah |
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| 05:39.51 | Arrowmaster | which would help |
| 05:40.04 | HotFO-blama | how do I go about putting Hal's textures into the newer version? |
| 05:40.13 | RaydenUni | armory down? |
| 05:40.19 | HotFO-blama | it is for me |
| 05:40.22 | RaydenUni | !help |
| 05:40.22 | Kivin | Look at the addon SharedMediaAdditionalTextures |
| 05:40.26 | HotFO-blama | its always down |
| 05:41.00 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: the Quartz Target module inherits properties from Player as well, it probably needs a toc entry for that |
| 05:41.01 | RaydenUni | 1328 RAP seems like a lot |
| 05:41.11 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: yeah ive noticed that |
| 05:41.19 | Gngsk | Antiarc, http://gngsk.pastey.net/82665 |
| 05:41.43 | HotFO-blama | just broke WAU :[ |
| 05:41.44 | Antiarc | Just updated? |
| 05:41.47 | Gngsk | yah |
| 05:41.57 | RaydenUni | how much ranged attack power for a hunter in full S1? |
| 05:41.59 | Gngsk | I see a nice neat pull aggro bar, can't move it or anything |
| 05:42.01 | Groktar-Impulse | wipe #6 on gurtogg inc |
| 05:42.02 | Groktar-Impulse | this is bad |
| 05:42.12 | Kivin | My hunter has 1850 with Aspect + Trueshot in mixed S1 and blues |
| 05:42.34 | Kivin | Only remarkable enchants are AP to bracers, gloves, and +35 agi to my s3 axe |
| 05:42.59 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: with SharedMedia-2.0 theres a file called 'INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia' that will help you add more textures |
| 05:43.08 | Antiarc | What'd you do to cause the error? Anything in particular? |
| 05:43.14 | Gngsk | nope, just loaded it up |
| 05:43.42 | Gngsk | one sec and I'll try reinstalling it, might've been an issue with copy/paste |
| 05:43.54 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, ping |
| 05:44.11 | Antiarc | Ooh. |
| 05:44.13 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.18 | WobWork | RaydenUni: Mine has 1268 without anything special |
| 05:44.24 | WobWork | (buffless etc) |
| 05:44.29 | Gngsk | Antiarc, not my fault then? |
| 05:44.35 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 05:44.40 | Gngsk | kk |
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| 05:45.06 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, how to start transcriptor? |
| 05:45.09 | Gngsk | 2.4 |
| 05:45.15 | kebinusan | anyone have the ptr numbers on the new healing coefficent for lifebloom? |
| 05:45.42 | Funkeh` | same as always |
| 05:45.43 | Iboong-kenzo | what is the most modern quest log tracker? :) |
| 05:45.47 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r62172 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Aggro bar fix |
| 05:45.48 | Funkeh` | click the icon |
| 05:47.33 | RaydenUni | WobWork fought a hunter with that and got demolished on my shadow priest |
| 05:47.38 | RaydenUni | he has 3 S1 pieces though |
| 05:47.45 | RaydenUni | and he immuned my fear :( |
| 05:48.00 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, never used it haven't noticed a minimap icon or slash command |
| 05:49.18 | WobWork | RaydenUni: Generally clothies are squishy against BM hunters |
| 05:49.32 | WobWork | since the pet does horrific things to casting times if not killed |
| 05:49.41 | WobWork | and often does horrific things while BRK'd |
| 05:49.46 | Iboong-kenzo | what is the most modern quest log tracker? :) |
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| 05:49.58 | WobWork | Iboong-kenzo: I just use doublewide =P |
| 05:50.06 | WobWork | and LightHeaded |
| 05:50.31 | Iboong-kenzo | im looking for most usefull quest tracker :) |
| 05:50.32 | Yssaril | great combinatin WobWork |
| 05:51.12 | Yssaril | t yall |
| 05:52.09 | Thorgard | Hmm, someone type my nick. |
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| 05:53.37 | WobWork | Thorgard: |
| 05:54.24 | Thorgard | Sweet, thanks. |
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| 05:57.23 | Gngsk | antiarc, error moved down a line, can't seem to move the frame even if it's locked |
| 05:58.54 | Gngsk | error doesn't show up initially after reload this time though |
| 06:00.30 | Gngsk | aight, I see the issue |
| 06:00.30 | aestil | Ellipsis: ping |
| 06:00.33 | Gngsk | I had the title window hidden |
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| 06:01.05 | Gngsk | welcome back Antiar1, guess I have to repeat myself, huh? |
| 06:01.36 | Antiar1 | Please do |
| 06:01.44 | Ellipsis | aestil: pong |
| 06:01.54 | Gngsk | well, one suggesstion, make it so you can move the frame if the title bar is hidden |
| 06:02.09 | Gngsk | also, I had that aggroThreat error again one line down, can't seem to reproduce it atm though |
| 06:02.29 | aestil | chinchilla doesn't have level AND strata options. |
| 06:03.08 | Ellipsis | aestil: um...k? |
| 06:05.25 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, I am getting the same error with SharedMedia2.0 |
| 06:05.42 | Arrowmaster | you use wau right? |
| 06:06.21 | HotFO-blama | Yes |
| 06:06.49 | Arrowmaster | try deleting Quartz and any other Quartz folders like Quartz_Target, then reinstalling it with WAU |
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| 06:07.03 | HotFO-blama | ok |
| 06:07.39 | mathuin | So Recount looks awesome except for two things: a crapload of translation-related errors and I can't see how to force my sync partners to reset when i reset. |
| 06:07.55 | HotFO-blama | Violiton or Assesment are other options |
| 06:08.02 | HotFO-blama | Violition* |
| 06:08.09 | mathuin | I have the no-lib version of Recount and I have all the lib babbles installed -- am I missing something else? |
| 06:08.17 | HotFO-blama | Assesement is extremely data intensive |
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| 06:14.16 | aestil | ckk lied to me. |
| 06:14.20 | aestil | wake him up and tell him so. |
| 06:14.27 | Ellipsis | he's not here |
| 06:14.29 | Ellipsis | what did he lie about? |
| 06:14.32 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, http://ace.pastey.net/82666 :[ |
| 06:14.36 | CIA-12 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r62173 10Omen/ (Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua Omen.lua): Omen: Fix a couple of errors. |
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| 06:15.20 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: do you have Quartz_Player but have it disabled? |
| 06:15.29 | HotFO-blama | i deleted my saved variables |
| 06:15.40 | HotFO-blama | so quartz is out of the box |
| 06:17.54 | CIA-12 | 03arrowmaster * r62174 10Quartz/Target/Quartz_Target.toc: Quartz: Target: also seems to require the Player module |
| 06:18.06 | Arrowmaster | HotFO-blama: wait 5 minutes then maybe try that |
| 06:18.14 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, I also don't have options for the mirror bar |
| 06:18.48 | Arrowmaster | how many Quarts* folders are their in your addons folder? |
| 06:19.48 | aestil | he told me it had level/strata options. it only has strata. |
| 06:20.19 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, I don't seem to have an icon for Transcriptor |
| 06:20.21 | HotFO-blama | All |
| 06:20.24 | HotFO-blama | Mirror is there |
| 06:20.45 | HotFO-blama | Mirror.lua and QUartz_Mirror.toc |
| 06:20.46 | Ellipsis | aestil: so what? |
| 06:20.47 | Arrowmaster | i think you have some of them disabled |
| 06:21.01 | aestil | i want level options. |
| 06:21.04 | aestil | for my art |
| 06:21.10 | Ellipsis | set your panel's levels instead |
| 06:21.17 | Arrowmaster | go check the addons panel and enable any of the quartz addons that are disabled |
| 06:21.29 | HotFO-blama | hmm |
| 06:21.31 | aestil | eepanels can't be trusted. |
| 06:21.31 | HotFO-blama | thats odd |
| 06:21.42 | HotFO-blama | they disabled themselves... or i was really dumb and did it |
| 06:21.43 | aestil | and the problem, is that i need 3 levels below the minimap. |
| 06:21.59 | aestil | and without a level option [that works] on the minimap, you can't do that. |
| 06:22.44 | Ellipsis | then l2bordertexture instead of your stupid multi-panel hack :P |
| 06:23.58 | aestil | Ellipsis: my multipanel hack is the only thing i know how. |
| 06:23.58 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, turning on mirror and timers made the error go away |
| 06:24.01 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r62175 10Xparky/ (Locale/en_US.lua Xparky.lua): Xparky - zomg dont' update it will break =P committing so I can continue at home |
| 06:24.25 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: haha |
| 06:24.31 | WobWork | well.. s'true =P |
| 06:24.54 | Arrowmaster | get a flash drive |
| 06:26.05 | WobWork | meh |
| 06:26.10 | WobWork | It's what the svn is for =P |
| 06:26.25 | WobWork | anyway |
| 06:26.27 | WobWork | byeee |
| 06:26.58 | HotFO-blama | Arrowmaster, turning on mirror and timers made the error go away |
| 06:27.04 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 06:27.04 | HotFO-blama | woops |
| 06:27.06 | HotFO-blama | also |
| 06:27.24 | HotFO-blama | Is it possible to make the player bar increment the width in single digits instead of 5s? |
| 06:27.55 | Arrowmaster | you should be able to by manually typing it in |
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| 06:28.15 | HotFO-blama | reverts it back to the nearest 5 |
| 06:28.17 | HotFO-blama | or 0 |
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| 06:28.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm no clue then |
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| 06:28.44 | Arrowmaster | its not my addon i just try and fix random bugs in stuff |
| 06:29.01 | HotFO-blama | oh |
| 06:29.01 | HotFO-blama | lol |
| 06:29.03 | HotFO-blama | awesome |
| 06:29.32 | dashkal | Can't pin which one, but one of my addons is saying in english in a female voice "aggro" every time I get into a fight... Anybody know offhand which one does that (almost certain it's an ace mod as I haven't installed any other kind lately) |
| 06:30.07 | durcyn | BanzaiAlert |
| 06:30.44 | dashkal | Drat, not installed |
| 06:30.53 | dashkal | meh for binary searching... |
| 06:31.02 | durcyn | next to check would be Omen |
| 06:31.14 | dashkal | Omen is configured to make the electral humm on aggro |
| 06:31.38 | ScoTTie | Grid ? |
| 06:31.50 | dashkal | grid can do that? *blink* |
| 06:32.15 | HotFO-blama | search your interface folder for a sound file |
| 06:32.17 | dashkal | That's the one |
| 06:32.19 | dashkal | Thank you |
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| 06:32.33 | dashkal | GridAlert |
| 06:34.32 | Tekkub | okey, need some theories here... |
| 06:34.41 | Arrowmaster | http://www.xkcd.com/386/ hahaha |
| 06:34.48 | Tekkub | have a lil box we keep upstairs, wired to the network, to watch shows |
| 06:34.58 | Tekkub | recently it started running like SHIT |
| 06:35.13 | Tekkub | a reboot takes, literally, 5 minutes |
| 06:35.25 | Tekkub | so I wiped it to reinstall XP |
| 06:35.48 | Tekkub | and, well it's been going for almost an hour now and it's just finishing up the "blue screen" part of the install |
| 06:35.57 | Tekkub | I've checked the hard drive, it's fine |
| 06:36.01 | Tekkub | so, uh, WTF? |
| 06:36.01 | Kerafyrm | trash it and buy a neuros osd :) |
| 06:36.07 | Arrowmaster | what about the hdd controller? |
| 06:36.30 | Tekkub | hrm... how would I go about testing that? |
| 06:36.43 | Kerafyrm | well |
| 06:36.47 | Kerafyrm | how did you test the hdd? |
| 06:37.12 | Tekkub | plugged it into my comp with this lil USB dingle I have for that |
| 06:37.13 | chiper | Arrowmaster: ahahaha |
| 06:37.24 | chiper | I <3 xkcd |
| 06:37.27 | Kerafyrm | is all the ram registering? |
| 06:38.10 | Tekkub | ram seems fine, can run a scan on it after the install but every time I've had RAM issues it was random arcane crashing |
| 06:38.17 | Tekkub | not running slower than shit |
| 06:38.44 | Arrowmaster | it didnt get randomly underclocked in the bios did it? |
| 06:39.09 | Tekkub | hrm... don't think it even has settings for that, I'll have to check it |
| 06:39.31 | Tekkub | I *was* in the BIOS before this happened, bat that was only to turn on WOL |
| 06:40.32 | Kerafyrm | reset the bios to defaults |
| 06:40.35 | Kerafyrm | and see if that helps any |
| 06:41.05 | Tekkub | yea, good idear |
| 06:42.17 | mathuin | Taking the box entirely apart and cleaning with canned air before reassembling helps sometimes. Reseating components helps loose connections, less dust means less trapped heat. |
| 06:42.28 | Kerafyrm | yup yup |
| 06:42.47 | Kerafyrm | i got rid of my "dvr machine" for that neuros osd i mentioned.. |
| 06:43.07 | mathuin | I replaced my dvralike with a Buffalo Linktheater and a NAS box. |
| 06:43.50 | Kerafyrm | got sick of having to take the damn thing apart, clean it, all that jazz |
| 06:45.22 | aestil | aw. goodbye post to old guild. sad times |
| 06:45.34 | Tekkub | oh yea, we have a real weiner there... there is no BIOS reset |
| 06:45.47 | Tekkub | I did switch the CPU from "compatible" to "normal" |
| 06:46.04 | Tekkub | but I saw nothing else out of the norm in there |
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| 06:50.45 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, seen a bug w/aura where the frame will show up inside the health bar instead of on top when set to side top? |
| 06:50.53 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62176 10HandyNotes/Libs/: HandyNotes: Change externals to branches/Ace3/RC1 instead of trunk/Ace3, as we need some of the latest branch changes or it errors. |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r62177 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 06:53.25 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:54.54 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r62178 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 06:54.54 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2:Zone: |
| 06:54.54 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:58.01 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r62179 10GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatherMate_Sharing: We will no longer attempt to send addon messages to the GUILD channel if we are not in a guild. |
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| 07:03.09 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: with growth direction set properly? |
| 07:04.35 | Ellipsis | update to r62158 or higher and if the bug still exists, post it on jira or the forums |
| 07:04.38 | Gngsk | up? |
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| 07:06.18 | Gngsk | bah, no about? can't tell without searching which rev I'm using atm |
| 07:07.26 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r62180 10Chinchilla/locale/frFR.lua: Chinchilla: frFR Update |
| 07:07.39 | Tekkub | Kerafyrm, this Neuros... will it play all the shit I have on my server without any transcoding or copying over or whatnot... |
| 07:07.43 | Tekkub | and is it cheap? :P |
| 07:07.55 | Kerafyrm | heheh.. ~$200 |
| 07:07.58 | Kerafyrm | its linux |
| 07:08.01 | Kerafyrm | HUGE PLUS THERE ! :) |
| 07:08.08 | Gngsk | switching growth to down seems to have fixed it, but I don't know if that makes sense |
| 07:08.09 | Tekkub | the ONLY thing I need is for it to playback network videos |
| 07:08.27 | Tekkub | so divx/xvid/x.264 |
| 07:09.18 | Kerafyrm | I give you.. www.neurostechnology.com and thus far it has played every uhh.. *cough*downloaded*cough* media file i have.. |
| 07:09.50 | Kerafyrm | since the firmware is open source |
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| 07:10.00 | Kerafyrm | there are folks working on building streaming into the unit |
| 07:10.13 | Kerafyrm | cuz right now i have it outputting to my tv and my slingbox |
| 07:10.13 | Tekkub | so that's question 1.... will it play shit off my server directly though? |
| 07:10.17 | Kerafyrm | so i can watch/control it from work |
| 07:10.20 | Kerafyrm | yes |
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| 07:10.57 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 07:11.20 | Tekkub | a potential answer then... all I want is a dumb playback terminal that works |
| 07:11.38 | Tekkub | I already have the media obtaining/storing taken care of |
| 07:12.10 | Tekkub | and the current solution is small, but a cheap *coughfreecough* low-profile Dell POS centron |
| 07:12.19 | Tekkub | but it's worked, up until like 2 days ago |
| 07:12.41 | Kerafyrm | i use the neuros for recording and playback... |
| 07:12.53 | Kerafyrm | http://www.neurostechnology.com/neuros-osd-specifications |
| 07:12.57 | Kerafyrm | theres the list of formats |
| 07:13.12 | Tekkub | hubby might use it to record netflix DVDs.. but would prolly just rip them downstairs and stash on the server |
| 07:13.51 | Kerafyrm | ahh |
| 07:14.18 | Tekkub | no MKV (fine by me I refuse to download them anyway) and no x.264 from what I can tell |
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| 07:14.25 | Kerafyrm | hehe |
| 07:14.41 | Kerafyrm | lemme check their forums |
| 07:14.48 | Tekkub | matroska can eat shit and die |
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| 07:15.26 | Tekkub | the UI nice? I've been using Zoom player just cause it does everything I need and is like instant-on |
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| 07:16.17 | Aeyan | I've always been a MPC fan, myself |
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| 07:17.06 | Kerafyrm | h.264 isn't supported right now.. due to required licencing and associated upfront fee's to licence |
| 07:17.16 | Tekkub | no, not H |
| 07:17.19 | Tekkub | x :) |
| 07:17.23 | Kerafyrm | my bad! ;P |
| 07:17.46 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r62181 10Ace3/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Ace3 - bump a few minor revs in preparation of next trunk merge |
| 07:18.11 | Tekkub | x.264 is to H.264 as Xvid is to MPEG-4 |
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| 07:18.49 | Grum | so true Tekkub:) |
| 07:19.11 | Grum | and tbh, x264/h264 take too much cpu power to play back |
| 07:19.14 | Tekkub | uh... this thing only does composite out? |
| 07:19.28 | Tekkub | yea I don't play x.264 right now, but I'd like to |
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| 07:22.03 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34837 |
| 07:22.06 | Xinhuan | ROFL |
| 07:22.07 | Grum | my poor old xbox cant handle it :( |
| 07:22.15 | Grum | yeah its brilliant Xinhuan:D |
| 07:22.24 | Arrowmaster | why do you hate mkv? |
| 07:22.42 | Tekkub | because it's a useless format? |
| 07:22.48 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 07:22.54 | Tekkub | yes avi has it's limits, but avi just works |
| 07:23.02 | Tekkub | mkv is always a headache |
| 07:23.05 | Grum | why? |
| 07:23.08 | Grum | mkv is the same as avi |
| 07:23.11 | Arrowmaster | mkv is a container and its far supperior to avi |
| 07:23.12 | Grum | its just a container format |
| 07:23.32 | Grum | it can have any codec inside and multiple audio streams and subtitle streams and more crap even |
| 07:23.41 | Tekkub | see you see "far superior" and I see "full of fluff" |
| 07:23.52 | Tekkub | and all I need are audio and video |
| 07:24.02 | Arrowmaster | plus ordered chapters |
| 07:24.10 | Tekkub | if I wanted a fucking DVD I'd buy one... oh wait I DON'T BUY DVDS |
| 07:24.21 | Kerafyrm | heh |
| 07:24.25 | Grum | Tekkub: i say full of fluff as well |
| 07:24.37 | Grum | who fucking cares for chapters |
| 07:24.38 | Grum | seriously |
| 07:24.43 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 07:24.45 | Grum | i havent *EVER* used it on *ANY* of my dvds >< |
| 07:24.49 | Tekkub | I've never gotten an mkv to work right... all I want is to hit play and have my fucking stories |
| 07:24.51 | Grum | and i mean *EVER* :) |
| 07:25.01 | Tekkub | mkv is the linux of video files :P |
| 07:25.13 | Grum | Tekkub: mkv is like avi, it should just work with the right codecs |
| 07:25.17 | Tekkub | you have to tinker to get anything to happen |
| 07:25.24 | Tekkub | "should" |
| 07:25.31 | Arrowmaster | i use them all the time when watching tv shows to skip openings and endings |
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| 07:25.39 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r62182 10Ace3/ (17 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:25.39 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - (merge) |
| 07:25.39 | CIA-12 | - AceConfigDialog: type = 'description' now uses the fields image and imageCoords instead of icon and iconCoords, add imageWidth and imageHeight |
| 07:25.39 | CIA-12 | - AceDB: fix GetProfiles() when setting the same profile twice |
| 07:25.39 | CIA-12 | - AceDB: bail out of :SetProfile early when trying to set to the same profile |
| 07:25.41 | CIA-12 | - AceConfigDialog: Add :AddToBlizzardOptions(appName, name), this will add the specified config to the Blizzard Options pane new in 2.4. This will only be available if running on the 2.4 ptr |
| 07:25.42 | Tekkub | the only reason people use mkv is they want to do more than an avi can do |
| 07:25.46 | CIA-12 | - AceGUI: Fix a couple of layout bugs causing the width of groups to be wrong |
| 07:25.56 | Tekkub | so in the end, it's *not* exactly like avi |
| 07:26.00 | keiss | never had a problem with mkv ... if the player supports the container , and you have the approritate audio/video codecs , whats the problem ? |
| 07:26.19 | Grum | same keiss |
| 07:26.36 | Tekkub | every mkv I've had has fallen out of sync or the subtitles don't work |
| 07:26.44 | Tekkub | never have that issue with avis and hardsubs |
| 07:26.51 | Arrowmaster | ive never had issues with www.cccp-project.net |
| 07:26.53 | Tekkub | I don't *need* softsubs |
| 07:26.59 | keiss | works in mpc at least :) |
| 07:27.05 | keiss | and mplayer ... |
| 07:27.20 | Tekkub | *stabs Kerafyrm* you never answered me |
| 07:27.22 | Arrowmaster | if the subtitles are falling out of sync and its a x264 vid then your computer probably isnt powerful enough to play it |
| 07:27.25 | nevcairiel | i've had a lot of issues with cccp |
| 07:27.36 | Grum | Arrowmaster: no you are using the wrong codecs then |
| 07:27.42 | Tekkub | nope arrow, not 264 |
| 07:27.49 | nevcairiel | some movies just had broken video with that codec packs, installed another one and it was fine |
| 07:27.56 | Orionshock | does any one know where WIM is officially hosted at? |
| 07:28.00 | Tekkub | in fact I think it was xvid on that one, and it was the AUDIO falling out of sync |
| 07:28.21 | Grum | Tekkub: that is just a wrong avi then |
| 07:28.29 | Grum | download a proper/whatever :D |
| 07:28.31 | Tekkub | mkv |
| 07:28.32 | Arrowmaster | usually its whoever made it thats at fault for a lot of that stuff |
| 07:28.39 | Grum | it always is Arrowmaster |
| 07:28.40 | Tekkub | that was the only source I could find |
| 07:28.47 | Grum | of what Tekkub? |
| 07:28.51 | Tekkub | which was the whole reason I took the mkv in the first place |
| 07:28.57 | keiss | you can get an aut-of-sync audio in avi too ... nothing to do with the container format ... has to do with the idiot that made the file ? :) |
| 07:29.01 | Tekkub | .hack OVAs |
| 07:29.15 | Kerafyrm | <3 .hack |
| 07:29.16 | Kerafyrm | btw |
| 07:29.18 | Arrowmaster | i think i have those |
| 07:29.23 | Kerafyrm | <-- anime whore |
| 07:29.34 | Kerafyrm | and which question was it you wanted to know? |
| 07:29.36 | Tekkub | Kerafyrm, your little box will not work for me, RCA out only |
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| 07:29.50 | Tekkub | DVI, bear minimum |
| 07:30.06 | Kerafyrm | hehe.. point |
| 07:30.07 | Tekkub | I'm a pissy bitch |
| 07:30.16 | Tekkub | ask them |
| 07:30.20 | Kerafyrm | no, you have standards |
| 07:30.22 | Grum | what about an apple tv? |
| 07:30.23 | Kerafyrm | and thats understandable |
| 07:30.25 | Diao | Orionshock: www.wimaddon.com |
| 07:30.37 | Tekkub | yes, pissy standards, and fuck apple |
| 07:30.58 | Tekkub | I'd use an appleTV if it was <$100 and did what I said before (network playback) |
| 07:31.07 | Kerafyrm | yeah, appletv is bleh |
| 07:31.10 | Tekkub | SMB network playback... |
| 07:31.12 | Kerafyrm | really only works with itunes |
| 07:31.26 | Grum | afaik the thing has been ripped open already |
| 07:31.42 | Tekkub | and only with MOV files |
| 07:31.42 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 07:31.46 | Orionshock | thx Diao |
| 07:31.50 | Kerafyrm | i went with the neuros because it works for my needs... |
| 07:31.54 | Tekkub | yes it has, but then we're back to the tinkering to make it work, and that's just easier with the free computer I already have |
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| 07:32.22 | Tekkub | neuros looks like it would work for me except the output is what kills it |
| 07:34.22 | Kerafyrm | fair enough |
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| 07:35.48 | Grum | WTB XBMC360 :D |
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| 07:52.24 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r62183 10Grid/GridStatusRange.lua: Grid: fix GridStatusRange so that the settings is not reset if the range iterator did not find the requested range value. |
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| 07:55.02 | Grum | omg finally that annoying bug is fixed |
| 07:55.04 | mathuin | The Buffalo Linktheater has lots of different outputs. Composite, component, S-Video, DVI, HDMI and some wacky Japanese format. |
| 07:55.28 | keiss | Grum: indeed |
| 07:55.58 | Grum | seriously retarded, 'lets forget the setting because i believe it doesnt work for you and save that thing' |
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| 08:00.32 | Kerafyrm | yeah but buffalo cannot sell 802.11a or g products in the usa until litigation comes back ;P |
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| 08:04.39 | mathuin | I bought one two weeks ago. |
| 08:04.47 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62184 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Should no longer display notes from every zone of the same continent while in an instance on the minimap. |
| 08:04.48 | mathuin | Circuit City sells them online for <$200. |
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| 08:06.23 | Kivin | Xinhuan: you there? |
| 08:06.27 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:06.55 | Kivin | is Cartographer, _Data, the professions module, and _Mining adequate to get mining nodes populated on the world map? |
| 08:07.07 | mathuin | Good night! |
| 08:07.26 | Xinhuan | yes kivin |
| 08:07.29 | Kivin | alright |
| 08:07.32 | Xinhuan | OR you can get GatherMate + GatherMate_Data |
| 08:07.34 | Kivin | trying to figure out why this guy can't see nodes |
| 08:07.38 | Kivin | heh touche |
| 08:07.52 | Xinhuan | in most likelihood |
| 08:07.58 | Xinhuan | the reason is wrong settings |
| 08:08.02 | Xinhuan | in the _Professiosn |
| 08:08.13 | Kivin | that's what i thought, he says it's enabled, querying for more info atm |
| 08:08.36 | Kivin | he doesn't have the mining dropdown... bet he forgot to install _Mining |
| 08:08.42 | Xinhuan | hope you'll try gathermate since it uses 1/2 as much ram and cpu ;p |
| 08:08.52 | Grum | i've seen it not work with _Notes embedded into Cartographer |
| 08:09.06 | Xinhuan | oh and _mining requires _notes |
| 08:09.06 | Grum | because Mining doesnt seem to resolve the dependency correctly |
| 08:09.09 | Grum | yup |
| 08:09.10 | Kivin | I haven't gathered since I got _Routes, else I would've updated by now |
| 08:09.24 | Xinhuan | well go get Routes |
| 08:09.30 | Xinhuan | Routes > Carto_Routes |
| 08:09.37 | Kivin | will it figure out my settings from carto_routes? |
| 08:09.40 | Grum | Kivin: make him run: Addons\Cartographer\cartographerlod.bat |
| 08:09.44 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 08:09.46 | Grum | Kivin: no |
| 08:09.49 | Kivin | Grum: why/ |
| 08:09.57 | Kivin | then it'll have to wait, Xinhuan. can't be arsed. |
| 08:10.07 | Grum | kivin: because what i just explained |
| 08:10.08 | Xinhuan | because its only like 1 minute maximum to set it up? |
| 08:10.16 | Xinhuan | there aren't much options |
| 08:10.27 | Kivin | 1 minute that i don't need to spend. i'm not doing any gathering |
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| 08:11.08 | Xinhuan | you just spent 5 minutes asking how to get _Mining to work |
| 08:11.12 | Xinhuan | grats |
| 08:11.24 | Kivin | Helping someone else. gg. |
| 08:11.26 | Grum | Kivin: please stay with _Routes, its not updated anymore and we'll likely kill it somewhere in the future |
| 08:11.33 | Grum | Kivin: make him run: Addons\Cartographer\cartographerlod.bat |
| 08:11.40 | Grum | so that takes care of one of your problems |
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| 08:12.30 | Grum | the other one, go install Routes, its superior to Cartographer_Routes |
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| 08:13.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Elkano: pong |
| 08:13.15 | Grum | it has more features, it will be updated, did i say it was better? |
| 08:13.49 | Elkano | ZealotOnAStick, I think SM-3.0 isn't needed (actualy I even think 2.0 wasn't) as I'm going to bump SM to LSM-3.0 on 2.4 release |
| 08:14.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Then SM-3.0 never need hit trunk. |
| 08:15.30 | ZealotOnAStick | but if/until there's a working 2.4 branch of SM working with LSM-3.0, we've at least got it for PTR work for things that would benefit from the textures/fonts. |
| 08:16.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I at least got a little (re)learning experience on basic SVN stuff. |
| 08:17.02 | Kivin | Looks like we're going to get GM/Routes |
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| 08:19.09 | CIA-12 | 03kivin * r62185 10KivinPetHappiness/main.lua: KivinPetHappiness: Localized globals and remove deprecated code. |
| 08:19.54 | CIA-12 | 03ascalia * r62186 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 08:19.54 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:19.55 | CIA-12 | - small loot update |
| 08:20.26 | Trefane | SVN-noob alert...I walked through the whole checkin thing in the sandbox. If I do it in the live trunk, it's available to the entire world? WowAceUpdater and all? |
| 08:20.28 | Grum | so Kivin, what is so special about the pethappiness? |
| 08:20.35 | Grum | yes Trefane |
| 08:20.48 | Grum | provided you didnt cock up the trunk :) |
| 08:20.55 | Trefane | rofl |
| 08:21.11 | Ellipsis | remember there is a 0-20minute delay before it's on the files page and WAU though |
| 08:21.12 | Trefane | Is there any concept of a beta addon, or is out there just out there? |
| 08:21.26 | Arrowmaster | everything on wowace is beta |
| 08:21.28 | Ellipsis | if it's in trunk it's beta :P |
| 08:21.34 | keiss | haha |
| 08:21.42 | Ellipsis | if it's in branches, it's likely to eat your children |
| 08:21.45 | Trefane | I see...no such thing as a real release |
| 08:21.48 | Grum | Trefane: just put it in branches if you dont want people to use it yet |
| 08:23.03 | Trefane | I don't mind people using it at this point; a few of my friends have been. It's just nicer to warn people about new code |
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| 08:23.38 | Grum | well if yu want people using the code as it is (aka: you will need to monitor forums and crap to catch bugreports if you care enough) |
| 08:23.48 | Ellipsis | there's warnings all over the place about wowace being a beta site |
| 08:23.51 | Ellipsis | people ignore them, but they're there |
| 08:24.12 | Grum | never seen that Ellipsis |
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| 08:24.22 | Ellipsis | WAU warns you every startup, by default |
| 08:24.31 | Grum | and tbh, i expect stuff in trunk to be bugfree |
| 08:24.39 | Trefane | good one |
| 08:24.40 | Grum | or at least stable enough to start up |
| 08:24.51 | Ellipsis | I expect stuff in trunk not to shard my purples or anything |
| 08:25.05 | Ellipsis | other than that, it can be as broken as it likes |
| 08:25.29 | keiss | is there somewhere a list of encounters (bosses) in zones/instances (something like TouristLib , but with bosses) ? |
| 08:25.32 | Trefane | i've got too many years in software to not be paranoid about this kind of thing |
| 08:25.43 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r62187 10Assessment/embeds.xml: |
| 08:25.43 | CIA-12 | Assessment: |
| 08:25.43 | CIA-12 | - WTS [Typo]. Babble-Spell-3.0 -> LibBabble-Spell-3.0. |
| 08:25.43 | Arrowmaster | lol bugfree trunk |
| 08:25.45 | Arrowmaster | ahahaha |
| 08:25.46 | Grum | keiss: Babble-boss? :P |
| 08:26.18 | keiss | Grum: i need the association ["TK"] = { "Al'ar", ...} |
| 08:26.29 | Arrowmaster | PT3? |
| 08:26.38 | Arrowmaster | its silly but it might work |
| 08:26.43 | Grum | keiss: why? :) |
| 08:26.46 | keiss | will check |
| 08:26.48 | Grum | because seriously, that will hurt |
| 08:27.01 | keiss | Grum: why what ? |
| 08:27.21 | Grum | the names of mobs are localized |
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| 08:27.34 | Grum | what are you trying to achieve? :D |
| 08:27.54 | keiss | i can use Babble-bos for localization ... thats not the problem ;) |
| 08:29.19 | Grum | what are you trying to achieve? :D |
| 08:30.13 | keiss | i need a list of bosses in each/instance zone , and trying to avoid the need to do it myself manually |
| 08:30.21 | Grum | *WHY* |
| 08:30.24 | Grum | grmbl :) |
| 08:30.41 | keiss | thats confidential i'am afraid ;) |
| 08:31.07 | keiss | its for a raid assignmed addon |
| 08:31.15 | keiss | assignment |
| 08:31.25 | Grum | just make a static list |
| 08:32.09 | Grum | its not like it will update more than twice every year |
| 08:32.11 | keiss | oh rly ? i just told you i want to make my life easier by getting it from somewhere else if someone already done it :D |
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| 08:32.47 | Grum | copy it from somewhere then >< |
| 08:32.52 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 08:32.55 | keiss | Grum: show me from where |
| 08:32.58 | Orionshock | atlas loot man |
| 08:33.09 | Grum | wowhead? |
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| 08:33.28 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62188 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Use GameTooltip on minimap notes, WorldMapTooltip on world map notes |
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| 08:33.31 | Grum | babble-boss? |
| 08:33.35 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62189 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Use GameTooltip on minimap notes, WorldMapTooltip on world map notes |
| 08:33.36 | keiss | Grum: == me typing anyway ... forget i asked :D |
| 08:33.44 | Grum | sigh |
| 08:33.47 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62190 10HandyNotes_Stables/addon.lua: HandyNotes_Stables: Use GameTooltip on minimap notes, WorldMapTooltip on world map notes |
| 08:34.20 | Grum | keiss: there is no lib that just provides what you want |
| 08:34.47 | Grum | if there is any lib that does provide it it comes with a shitload of other stuff you dont want load |
| 08:35.23 | keiss | never was my intention , i just wanted a source from which i would just c&p without having to do much work |
| 08:35.30 | Grum | so again: just make a static list, if you want to copy/paste stuff, look @ babble-boss http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua?r=62046#l315 |
| 08:35.34 | Grum | sigh |
| 08:35.37 | Grum | i told you twice now >< |
| 08:35.56 | Grum | even wowhead you can copy/paste from |
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| 08:37.36 | Ellipsis | WTB druid PST |
| 08:37.57 | estala | ? |
| 08:38.19 | Grum | just say yes to Ellipsis if you play a druid and have a slight clue about addons O.o |
| 08:38.26 | estala | hi |
| 08:38.27 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 08:38.28 | Grum | (and your realm is up) |
| 08:38.35 | estala | what's up ellipsis |
| 08:38.51 | Ellipsis | I need a druid to test my PitBull_Spark rewrite and make sure it works properly when shifting in/out of cat, etc. |
| 08:38.57 | estala | ok |
| 08:39.05 | estala | the spark for energy tick |
| 08:39.07 | estala | and mana regen tick? |
| 08:39.10 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 08:39.16 | estala | ok |
| 08:39.21 | estala | Where do you have it stashed, branch? |
| 08:39.57 | Ellipsis | hm, I suppose I could do that |
| 08:40.03 | estala | or if you want to email it to me |
| 08:40.08 | estala | doesn't make a difference |
| 08:40.12 | Ellipsis | that'd probably be easier |
| 08:40.16 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: wtb, Rightclick ->"Set Way Point" |
| 08:40.29 | Grum | Orionshock: not possible atm |
| 08:40.39 | Orionshock | lol is so |
| 08:40.40 | Grum | there is no waypoint lib next to Cartographer_Waypoint |
| 08:40.50 | Orionshock | Grum: that's the idea |
| 08:40.52 | Grum | so yeah we could use that one |
| 08:41.17 | Orionshock | tomtom will have it soon |
| 08:41.20 | Orionshock | so hook into both |
| 08:41.20 | Grum | yeah lol |
| 08:41.28 | Grum | it had it 'soon' more than a month ago |
| 08:42.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.28 | Orionshock | s/z/y/ |
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| 08:44.02 | Elsia | morning |
| 08:44.05 | estala | Say when it's sent, if you will |
| 08:44.19 | Elsia | is there a chance that trunk commits don't get zipped up properly? |
| 08:45.07 | Ellipsis | it can happen Elsia, check the ERRORS.txt file if it happens |
| 08:45.17 | Elsia | in the zip? |
| 08:45.30 | keiss | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
| 08:45.39 | Elsia | thanks |
| 08:46.16 | Elsia | no, no entry for recount, but it doesn't contain the committed changes from 1-2 days ago for one file |
| 08:46.36 | Grum | does it do in trunk? |
| 08:46.47 | Ellipsis | check fisheye and make sure the commit went through? |
| 08:46.59 | Elsia | if I check out from trunk and check fisheye they are there,,, sec |
| 08:47.08 | Elsia | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Recount |
| 08:47.49 | Ellipsis | which file is it? |
| 08:48.03 | Elsia | ah nevermind, I found the problem |
| 08:48.09 | Elsia | soraz fixed the wrong file :D |
| 08:48.14 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, for which addon? |
| 08:48.32 | Elsia | he should have fixed sync but "fix" tracker |
| 08:48.39 | Elsia | I'll fix that up now |
| 08:50.21 | Orionshock | gathermate and handy notes |
| 08:51.27 | Xinhuan | will do something tonight |
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| 08:52.12 | [SW]Dodge | is there a LibSharedMedia-2.0 doc? |
| 08:52.37 | Elkano | there is no LibSharedMedia-2.0 ;) |
| 08:52.58 | Elkano | reminds me I should start on LSM-3.0 doc |
| 08:52.58 | [SW]Dodge | local SharedMedia = Rock("LibSharedMedia-2.0") <- from pitbull O.o |
| 08:53.51 | [SW]Dodge | Elkano: yea, go and start! :) |
| 08:54.18 | Trefane | So it's rejecting my initial commit because properties aren't set. SVN_For_Beginners says to do the commit, check it back out and set the properties. Should I just commit an empty directory and then add the files? |
| 08:54.23 | Elkano | but SML-1.0 doc was on the wiki, don't know if it's still there... besides that, feel free to ask |
| 08:54.49 | Elkano | Trefane, or set auto-properties for the file types |
| 08:55.54 | Elkano | Dodge: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMediaLib |
| 08:55.58 | [SW]Dodge | i need to know how i use lsm w/o reading the code of an addon using it :P |
| 08:56.28 | Elkano | but it's a bit outdated I think |
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| 08:57.19 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r62191 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Change tooltip anchor to be based on UIParent's center. Really make the nodes on the edge of the minimap be hidden instead of setting their alpha to 0 if "Show Nodes on Minimap Border" option is off. |
| 08:57.24 | [SW]Dodge | well, i'll start with implementing dogtag and maybe if i'm don your done with lsm3 doc :P |
| 08:57.37 | [SW]Dodge | s/don/done/ |
| 08:58.14 | Elkano | well, you get a local copy via LSM = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0") and then you can fetch the data by fontpath = LSM:Fetch(LSM.MediaType.FONT, "Morpheus") |
| 08:58.52 | CIA-12 | 03elsia * r62192 10Recount/Sync.lua: |
| 08:58.52 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 08:58.52 | CIA-12 | - Fixed forward translation of the sync code for the LibBabble-Spell-3.0 change. |
| 08:59.00 | Elkano | API is almost the same besides that LSM-3.0 usses callbackhandler to inform addons of new media or global overrides |
| 08:59.52 | [SW]Dodge | and for Textrues i use LSM.MEdiaType.STATUSBAR like in sharedmedialib? |
| 09:01.54 | Elsia | is LSM-2.0 going to be depricated soon? |
| 09:02.13 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 09:02.15 | Elsia | k |
| 09:02.28 | [Ammo] | Elkano did a proper LSM-3.0, not the quick hack ckk did |
| 09:02.37 | Elsia | I'll update recount to 3.0 then when I get a chance |
| 09:02.50 | Elsia | gotta go work now though :P |
| 09:02.55 | Elsia | laters folks |
| 09:02.58 | Elkano | and LSM-3.0 even comes WITHOUT compat layer :) |
| 09:04.06 | Arrowmaster | well LSM-2.0 doesnt really have a compat layer, it just listens to SML and Surfaces events for new media and adds those too |
| 09:05.03 | Arrowmaster | ugg this is going to take forever |
| 09:05.17 | Arrowmaster | copying 26gb from my sata drive to my pata drive |
| 09:08.17 | Orionshock | imo opt dep LSM-3 to aceEvent-3, that way it can use it's signaling methods |
| 09:09.07 | Arrowmaster | or we can just use CBH |
| 09:09.17 | Orionshock | ... that's not the point |
| 09:09.45 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: aceevent uses CBH |
| 09:09.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.51 | [Ammo] | might as well just use CBH :) |
| 09:10.07 | Orionshock | looks ugly when compared to using ace event as a center point |
| 09:10.57 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: i know that, but what's the point of each and every single lib having it's own CBH when it can just use aceEvent's message method? IMO, on or the other; not both... |
| 09:11.08 | Orionshock | meh |
| 09:11.14 | [Ammo] | it's the difference between 1 lib intended to be used in other libs and a lib (aceevent) that is not really intended for that method |
| 09:11.27 | [Ammo] | wherer the first lib is CBH |
| 09:11.53 | Arrowmaster | if you want it to look pretty then get Elkano to make LSM-3.0 embedable |
| 09:12.13 | Orionshock | then why include addoon messages in ace event if it was intended for everything to use cbh to begin with? |
| 09:12.37 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.50 | [Ammo] | because addon messages are just that _addon_ messages |
| 09:15.37 | CIA-12 | 03noodles * r62193 10PitBull/ (31 files in 30 dirs): |
| 09:15.37 | CIA-12 | PitBull |
| 09:15.37 | CIA-12 | - Add zhTW localization. base version r62129. |
| 09:16.13 | Ellipsis | ohshi |
| 09:16.21 | Ellipsis | and I was just about to commit, too |
| 09:16.22 | [Ammo] | mwhahahahaa |
| 09:16.26 | [Ammo] | asians got you! |
| 09:16.26 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 09:19.53 | CIA-12 | 03trefane * r62194 10SmartFitter/ (9 files): |
| 09:19.53 | CIA-12 | SmartFitter: initial commit |
| 09:19.53 | CIA-12 | - Helps you rate your gear and finds the best gear combinations based on your criteria. |
| 09:21.10 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62195 10PitBull/Spark/ (PitBull_Spark.toc Spark.lua): PitBull_Spark: code overhaul, should fix some bugs and clean things up a bit. |
| 09:21.10 | keiss | too bad it doesn't help drop them from the bosses |
| 09:22.23 | Trefane | no shit...12 or so illidan kills so far and we've still only seen the warlock T6 shoulders drop once |
| 09:22.41 | keiss | hehe |
| 09:23.34 | Kalroth | Illidan drops warlock only shoulders? :) |
| 09:23.45 | Kulaar | we have killed illidan 29 times and havent seen all items of akama yet^^ |
| 09:23.50 | Trefane | mother drops the tokens |
| 09:24.00 | Trefane | she dies on the way to illidan |
| 09:24.17 | Kalroth | I know :) |
| 09:24.44 | Kerafyrm | RatingsBuster + SmartFitter ... mmmmm |
| 09:24.47 | Kerafyrm | me thinx |
| 09:24.59 | Kulaar | loot generation really sucks |
| 09:25.15 | Kalroth | Naw, I don't mind it being random |
| 09:25.20 | Kalroth | It keeps people farming |
| 09:25.27 | Kulaar | cool -.- |
| 09:25.38 | Kulaar | thats what we want.... farming |
| 09:26.04 | Kalroth | Would you rather want to clear BT 2-3 times for your items and then that's it? |
| 09:26.16 | Kalroth | No reason to go back at all. |
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| 09:26.30 | Kulaar | no but i want that a boss drops tokens and thats it |
| 09:26.42 | Kulaar | it sucks that you have to diss all bt loot |
| 09:26.49 | Kalroth | There's plenty of bosses that drops tokens. :) |
| 09:27.07 | Trefane | SmartFitter is a bit like pawn...and it accepts pawn strings. But it will exhaustively try gear combinations until it finds the best one, even if that means thousands or millions of combinations. |
| 09:27.29 | Skidmarkx | Hey sorry I'm a novice when it comes to modding but since recount added the "Network Traffic by Player" meter I have found "3T" to be incredibly incredibly spammy |
| 09:27.38 | Skidmarkx | anyone have any idea what 3T is? |
| 09:27.41 | Kalroth | Trefane: How does it rate Equip/Use procs on items? |
| 09:27.42 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:27.47 | Arrowmaster | its Recount |
| 09:27.57 | Skidmarkx | when synched? |
| 09:28.00 | Kalroth | Skidmarkx: Yes |
| 09:28.01 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:28.11 | Skidmarkx | Thanks a lot |
| 09:28.14 | CIA-12 | 03trefane * r62196 10SmartFitter/: |
| 09:28.14 | CIA-12 | SmartFitter: |
| 09:28.14 | CIA-12 | - Updating externals |
| 09:28.42 | Kalroth | Skidmarkx: And update Recount, Cryect changed some sync code, reduces traffic by at least two-thirds. |
| 09:28.48 | Trefane | procs are always the problem. you still have to be a bit smarter than the addon |
| 09:29.01 | Kalroth | Trefane: So it doesn't apply to Warlocks?! |
| 09:29.08 | NeoTron | so I learned the hard way that bartender now supports "possession toolbar" |
| 09:29.19 | Trefane | i originally wrote this in C# when i was trying to find the best gear combo for warlock-tanking Leotheras |
| 09:29.29 | Kalroth | Trefane: Or let me rephrase that; "Warlocks are still fucked, eh?!" |
| 09:29.30 | NeoTron | helped us wipe on gorefiend because my macros on my main toolbar weren't there and I was confused as hell |
| 09:29.40 | Trefane | I am a warlock :p |
| 09:29.40 | Kalroth | NeoTron: Woot! |
| 09:29.41 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: lol |
| 09:29.49 | Kalroth | Trefane: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 09:29.52 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r62197 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 09:29.52 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 09:29.52 | CIA-12 | - temp workaround in zhTW locale for the new 2.4 zones |
| 09:30.38 | Kulaar | one question: need the name of the addon which pops up the spellicon if the cooldown just finishes |
| 09:30.48 | Trefane | It will solve things like "I need 260 FR, 100 hit and all the stam I can get while keeping good +dmg. Which of these 25 pieces will give me that." |
| 09:30.59 | Kalroth | 265* |
| 09:31.23 | Kalroth | But it only works with existing gear or? |
| 09:31.33 | keiss | ... where did the 'no border' option in chinchila go ? /cry |
| 09:31.47 | Trefane | you can have an "eval list". it will compare items you specify against your current gear |
| 09:32.19 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62198 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Fix database errors. Some flight masters are really neutral. |
| 09:32.38 | Trefane | but i haven't finished the part where you can specify what enchantments you might use, so instead you tell it to use raw values and it will strip enchantments for the compare |
| 09:32.48 | Kalroth | Ah okay |
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| 09:33.24 | Trefane | it does know all the gems, so it will automatically calculate values for sockets, and you can specify you want to use rare, epic, or T6 gems |
| 09:33.27 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r62199 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Set the frame level if our icons too, since reusing them between the world map and minimap changes them arbitrarily when re-parenting them. |
| 09:33.29 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62200 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Malchezaar.lua Netherspite.lua): BigWigs: 2.4 support for malchezaar and netherspite |
| 09:33.37 | NeoTron | felt like a complete nub :P |
| 09:33.52 | Trefane | the eval list also works like a handy shopping list in your raid |
| 09:34.08 | NeoTron | so a lot of the "fake" patch note changes are now official.. |
| 09:34.13 | Kulaar | ahhh found the name of the addon: JIM's Cooldown Pulse but its outdated... is there a working version around? |
| 09:34.22 | NeoTron | one exception is the warlock changes to imp SB, incinerate etc |
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| 09:36.20 | Grum | Kulaar: what do you mean 'outdated' .. does it break? or just have an old 'toc' ? |
| 09:36.45 | Kulaar | hmm tested it a few weeks ago and i didnt get it running |
| 09:37.19 | Kulaar | Changed in version 2.0.36: |
| 09:37.19 | Kulaar | o Updated TOC for WoW 2.0.3 patch. |
| 09:37.28 | Kulaar | thats the last change i see on the page |
| 09:37.29 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: THANKS A LOT BUDDY ZOMG! ;-) |
| 09:37.39 | keiss | Trefane: whats the purpose of the 'auto-filled' color-socket items in the Stats page once you add a stat ? |
| 09:37.43 | Grum | NeoTron: you got nevc to pleasure you? |
| 09:38.57 | Trefane | it looks at all the gems that have the stat you specified, and rates them. a socket is given a value based on the best gem that matches it |
| 09:39.19 | Xinhuan | start of a brand new raiding week :) |
| 09:39.19 | thul | http://xkcd.com/386 <- tell me about it |
| 09:39.24 | Xinhuan | what will najentus drop tonight? |
| 09:39.30 | Trefane | so if you look at a piece of gear with sockets, it will tell you the value of that gear as if it had those gems |
| 09:39.32 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: his pants! |
| 09:39.39 | Skidmarkx | Can anyone explain any problems which could arise from the addon channel being excessively spammed? |
| 09:39.41 | Xinhuan | nagas don't wear pants |
| 09:39.54 | thul | Grum for instance, he thinks that pve is important, Xinhuan likes ram, Antiar1 likes naked nightelfs |
| 09:39.57 | Trefane | it also figures out if you're better off matching the socket colors or ignoring them |
| 09:40.06 | thul | (ok, i made those two last ones up, so Grum wouldn't feel singeled out) |
| 09:40.07 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62201 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Nightbane.lua ShadeOfAran.lua): BigWigs: Nightbane and Aran 2.4 compat |
| 09:40.12 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: But Naj will drop the 1H axe and hrmm, caster dps ring! |
| 09:40.41 | Grum | thul: i am always right |
| 09:40.59 | Grum | Skidmarkx: lag? |
| 09:41.26 | Arrowmaster | Alterac Valley |
| 09:41.26 | Arrowmaster | * There is now a Join as Party option. |
| 09:41.28 | Arrowmaster | LOL |
| 09:41.39 | Skidmarkx | Addon lag or actual fps drop or both? |
| 09:41.43 | keiss | Trefane: does it consider meta gems in that ? |
| 09:41.58 | Trefane | you have to give metas your own value |
| 09:42.20 | Grum | Skidmarkx: and both :) |
| 09:42.22 | Trefane | since they're "special" |
| 09:42.24 | keiss | i mean , in the color-matching , if it considers the meta-gem requirements |
| 09:42.26 | Skidmarkx | Thank you |
| 09:42.48 | Trefane | in the color matching, it will assume a meta gem in the meta socket |
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| 09:42.59 | Trefane | but it doesn't assume any value |
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| 09:43.15 | Grum | Skidmarkx: just think of it this way, if i'd give you one message every 30 seconds you would cope with reading it, what if 300 people do that? suddenly you have problems reading all stuff |
| 09:43.35 | Grum | now think of 25 people in a raid with a spammy addon that sends out 10 messages per second .. |
| 09:43.42 | keiss | i mean the requirements like 'more Red gems than Blue gems' |
| 09:43.45 | Fisker- | Incubator is telling me to grow up ;_; |
| 09:43.57 | Grum | Fisker-: hehe you are using it below lvl70 orso? :D |
| 09:44.10 | Skidmarkx | I understood that much but I'm not sure if 20,000 bytes from 25 people per minute is significant |
| 09:44.41 | Trefane | so basically, if you've got a head with a socket bonus that has a value of 3 and one blue socket besides the meta. if you can put a red gem in there that's worth more than the value of a blue gem + the socket bonus, it will tell you to use"Best Gems" |
| 09:44.54 | Fisker- | nah Grum |
| 09:44.55 | Grum | Skidmarkx: wow does about 2KiB at max |
| 09:45.00 | Trefane | oh, that...no, not yet |
| 09:45.04 | keiss | yeah , i understood that , .. |
| 09:45.06 | keiss | ah ok |
| 09:45.07 | Fisker- | it has a feature to make bars grow up instead of grow down :P |
| 09:45.18 | Grum | Fisker-: ;) |
| 09:45.33 | Trefane | that's on my list, along with enchants |
| 09:45.46 | Grum | what are you making Trefane ? :) |
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| 09:45.51 | baer_ | moin. |
| 09:46.00 | Trefane | SmartFitter...just checked it in |
| 09:46.11 | Grum | what does it do? |
| 09:46.18 | Trefane | it's like pawn with a brain |
| 09:46.21 | keiss | cant find regen in the stats list (dont mean mp5) |
| 09:46.36 | Trefane | hp5? |
| 09:46.38 | Skidmarkx | Grum: thanks that helps a lot |
| 09:46.50 | keiss | no mana regen out of FSR |
| 09:46.53 | Grum | Skidmarkx: trick is to try to keep communication to a minimum |
| 09:47.09 | NeoTron | Grum - just the bartender change that surprised me so :P |
| 09:47.20 | Industrial | what change |
| 09:47.31 | NeoTron | the "possess" change |
| 09:47.36 | NeoTron | that changes your main bar to the pet bar |
| 09:47.49 | NeoTron | and messed up my gorefiend macros |
| 09:47.53 | Trefane | name an item that has it? |
| 09:48.12 | Skidmarkx | Grum: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if my guild has been saturating the addon channel, should be an easy fix though |
| 09:48.33 | keiss | Trefane: its a derived stat |
| 09:48.44 | Trefane | no derived stats yet |
| 09:48.49 | Grum | Trefane: 'pawn with a brain' - what does it do? :D |
| 09:48.56 | Grum | auto-suggest-gems for items? |
| 09:49.50 | Trefane | you rate stats ala AEP or Pawn...Agi=1, Str=0.8. Then it looks at all your gear, plus possibly gear you don't own and tells you which pieces to wear. |
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| 09:50.28 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62202 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: add 2.4 support for illhoof |
| 09:50.51 | Trefane | it understands hit and knows when to stop counting it, it knows all the gems and evaluates sockets based on them |
| 09:50.51 | Grum | Trefane: are the modifiers 'editable' ? |
| 09:51.20 | Grum | or the weights of the different stats that is |
| 09:51.24 | Trefane | you give it the ratings for stats, based on your spreadsheet |
| 09:52.00 | keiss | Trefane: another thing that comes to mind is a minimum stat requirement ... like .... health = 0.7 , but i need at least 10000 ... |
| 09:52.09 | NeoTron | still we cleared hyjal and killed 4 in BT in 4 hrs so it was a great night |
| 09:52.20 | NeoTron | no wipes on Archimonde for the first time |
| 09:52.27 | Trefane | it can do set and stat requirements |
| 09:52.45 | Trefane | add a stat and set the type to Target1 |
| 09:52.53 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a cool addon |
| 09:52.58 | keiss | oh , nice |
| 09:53.11 | Arrowmaster | does it do all this processing in the background? |
| 09:53.14 | Trefane | so you can specify Spell Hit, Target1, value of 202 |
| 09:53.36 | Trefane | you click search and it starts, running off timer ticks |
| 09:54.07 | keiss | Trefane: but , does it count only stats from gear , or total stats ? (+ base stats) |
| 09:54.12 | Trefane | you can also set the stat type to "Set", and then specify for example that you want 2 pieces of T5 and 2 pieces of T6 |
| 09:54.55 | Trefane | so when you're looking at an items tooltip, it will show a value, and that is that piece's value base only on its stats |
| 09:55.13 | Trefane | but when you say search, it comes up with a complete outfit and then tallies the score |
| 09:55.52 | Trefane | but i prefer to set a 'target' for hit rather than a value |
| 09:56.08 | Trefane | and for now you can set up to two targets that way |
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| 10:00.59 | NeoTron | Trefane: what addon is this? |
| 10:01.09 | Trefane | SmartFitter |
| 10:01.09 | NeoTron | Ah SmartFitter? |
| 10:01.22 | keiss | Trefane: thx for bringing Pawn to my attention ... the tooltip part is the only thing id use prolly :) |
| 10:01.49 | Trefane | d'oh |
| 10:02.07 | NeoTron | so wowace says: Error loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object. |
| 10:02.20 | NeoTron | and I get no list of addons |
| 10:02.35 | Wogroipl | rekload your index, the cache is fubar |
| 10:02.39 | Trefane | no, pawn is cool. i hadn't heard of it either when i started writing this |
| 10:02.40 | Wogroipl | reload even |
| 10:02.45 | NeoTron | Wogroipl: just figured that out thanks |
| 10:03.14 | Trefane | but i was levelling a druid and i had about 100 items in the bank and no good way to sort out the crap |
| 10:03.24 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r62203 10CooldownTimers2/Locale/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 10:03.24 | CIA-12 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 10:03.24 | CIA-12 | -zhTW update |
| 10:03.40 | keiss | Trefane: the thing is, i dont rly have any 'spare' gear (of close qualitty to my normal gear anyway) , so the the 'fitting' feature is wasted on me |
| 10:03.40 | Orionshock | humm.... to move the last addon to wow ace or no? |
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| 10:04.38 | NeoTron | Trefane: can you specify how much spell hit you want? |
| 10:04.44 | Trefane | well, i'm 4/5 T6 right now myself on my main. it helps me decide which of the non-set pieces to go for, and when i have to start upgrading again come 2.4, it'll be handy |
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| 10:04.51 | NeoTron | i.e for trash mobs I need almost no spell hit |
| 10:05.12 | NeoTron | and on static fight where I have an elemental shammy I need just 12% etc |
| 10:05.13 | Trefane | you can either specify a value for hit, or a target number |
| 10:05.36 | NeoTron | and best question - does it change gear for you? :P |
| 10:05.37 | keiss | Trefane: thats where my comment about boss drops comes in ;) ... if it were like shopping in the supermarket it would be imba :) |
| 10:05.45 | Trefane | i.e. Spell Hit:Value:1.28 or Spell Hit:Target:150 |
| 10:05.56 | NeoTron | ah I see |
| 10:05.56 | NeoTron | nice |
| 10:06.36 | Xinhuan | have you tried WoWEquip? :) |
| 10:06.40 | Trefane | it can change your gear. there's a button to equip the results of the search |
| 10:06.45 | Trefane | nope |
| 10:06.53 | baer_ | is it still an issue in pitbull to the have the debuffs over the unitframe? |
| 10:06.54 | Xinhuan | its like a ingame ct-profiles addon |
| 10:06.55 | Trefane | but it doesn't save searches |
| 10:07.10 | Trefane | i didn't want to write an Outfitter replacement |
| 10:07.26 | baer_ | Trefane: what's about closetgnome? |
| 10:07.43 | Trefane | didn't want to replace that either. that's not what this is about |
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| 10:08.06 | keiss | you can always click on equip and then use ClosetGnome to save the set ... |
| 10:08.17 | Trefane | it comes up with the outfit, then you save that outfit in Outfitter or closetgnome |
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| 10:09.02 | Trefane | the point was to make it figure out which gear to equip |
| 10:09.15 | NeoTron | Trefane: this is hot |
| 10:09.19 | Trefane | thanks |
| 10:09.21 | Grum | Trefane: how did you handle the tooltips etc? parse em yourself? using ItemBonusLib? |
| 10:09.29 | Trefane | itembonuslib |
| 10:09.46 | NeoTron | so do I add items to "eval" for them to be added to the search if I don't yet own them? |
| 10:10.12 | Trefane | yes. use the command: /sf eval [Leggings of Uberness] |
| 10:10.33 | Trefane | then there's a checkbox to include them or not |
| 10:10.41 | Grum | got a screenshot? |
| 10:10.52 | Trefane | do i? |
| 10:11.06 | NeoTron | ok so by default it's just my inventory |
| 10:11.18 | NeoTron | but I can add items and it'll include them to make a dream set |
| 10:11.25 | Trefane | yes. if your bank is open when you start the search it will include bank items also |
| 10:11.35 | NeoTron | sweet |
| 10:11.41 | NeoTron | I wanted an addon like this |
| 10:11.54 | Trefane | if you've got a lot of crap in your bank, expect it to take a long...time... |
| 10:12.00 | NeoTron | I don't have THAT much |
| 10:12.08 | Grum | Trefane: what does it actually do, you set up some targets/bottom limits, value them in which order they should be satisfied and then just say: 'make it from this pile of items' and it will return the best possible selection for it? |
| 10:12.35 | Trefane | yes, exactly |
| 10:13.20 | Grum | that is going to be some nice 'lets try all of the combinations and see which comes out best'-code :P |
| 10:13.52 | Trefane | my first attempt was recursive...not so good |
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| 10:14.34 | Trefane | it's still basically recursive in how it works, but it only runs so many times on a tick |
| 10:14.38 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62204 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: Don't prevent Sunwell modules from loading in <2.4, so that people can see them in the menu. |
| 10:14.54 | NeoTron | I was contemplating how to best do it |
| 10:15.11 | NeoTron | not a super easy issue to solev |
| 10:16.01 | Grum | choosing the best combination is not hard to solve if you can find a good way to rate the possiblities |
| 10:16.06 | Orionshock | whats better? http://ace.pastey.net/82672 |
| 10:16.31 | Trefane | My lock setup is Malefic Raiment:Set:4, Spell Hit:Target1:202, Spell Damage:1, Spell Crit:0.69, Spell Haste:0.72, Shadow Dmg:0.9, Fire Dmg:0.1 |
| 10:16.47 | Trefane | it was a lot of fun to write |
| 10:17.05 | Trefane | especially in a way that wouldn't make wow fall over |
| 10:17.11 | NeoTron | damn it's tested 60k combinations so far :P |
| 10:17.24 | NeoTron | dude spell haste is worth more than spell dmg :P |
| 10:17.38 | baer_ | damn! |
| 10:17.45 | Trefane | on my system, 5000 combinations takes about a second |
| 10:17.56 | baer_ | pitbull still doesn't grow it's buffs/debuffs over the frame! |
| 10:17.57 | Trefane | it will do millions if you have that much gear |
| 10:18.02 | NeoTron | so hmm |
| 10:18.16 | NeoTron | it doesn't correctly calculate the value of the Hyjal ring I suspect |
| 10:18.44 | NeoTron | I should pick up items I'd consider using. it's doing my living ruby serpent and stuff too :P |
| 10:18.50 | Xinhuan | so |
| 10:18.52 | Tem | NeoTron, spell haste is /not/ worth more than spell damage |
| 10:18.53 | Xinhuan | we pulled najentus |
| 10:18.58 | Grum | honor update? |
| 10:18.59 | Xinhuan | and then, spine on XYZ |
| 10:19.03 | Xinhuan | so XYZ tries to loot the spine |
| 10:19.06 | Xinhuan | honor update hits |
| 10:19.15 | Xinhuan | spine enters his inventory |
| 10:19.16 | Trefane | those are the values based on the Leulier spreadsheet |
| 10:19.17 | Tem | it provides roughly the same dps boost, point for point, but at reduced dpm |
| 10:19.19 | Xinhuan | but is unusable |
| 10:19.21 | Tem | making it worse than spell damage |
| 10:19.36 | Trefane | no, procs are impossible to solve without a database of items |
| 10:19.38 | Xinhuan | so Najentus heals from 60% back to 100% at the rate of 1% per sec in his tidal shield |
| 10:19.49 | Grum | so you wipe? :P |
| 10:19.55 | Xinhuan | and his shield fades, and he recasts it after 10 secs |
| 10:19.58 | Xinhuan | blah blah |
| 10:20.09 | Xinhuan | then we realize, his enrage timer will kill us |
| 10:20.13 | Xinhuan | so we all ran out of the instance ~_~ |
| 10:20.19 | Grum | hahaha |
| 10:20.23 | Grum | with Naj tailing you? :D |
| 10:20.25 | Xinhuan | and we're all stuck on the zone loading screen now |
| 10:20.26 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:20.35 | NeoTron | Tem: it is pretty clearly so |
| 10:20.46 | Trefane | show me a database of procs with their frequency and duration and i'll think about it |
| 10:20.49 | NeoTron | both according to theory craft spreadsheet and from shadowseer |
| 10:21.25 | NeoTron | 100 extra haste = 7% more DPS according to shadowseer, vs 4.18% for 100 spell dmg and 3.8% from 100 crit |
| 10:21.40 | Tem | what's shadowseer? |
| 10:21.43 | NeoTron | the spreadsheet data I have is 0.91 dmg = 1.19 haste |
| 10:21.53 | Trefane | friends were telling me i should build the spreadsheet functionality into this thing. my first question was, which spreadsheet? |
| 10:21.58 | NeoTron | it's an addon that analyzes in-game performance for locks |
| 10:22.06 | Tem | for /locks/ |
| 10:22.10 | Tem | that's different |
| 10:22.16 | Tem | <-- mage |
| 10:22.19 | Grum | Trefane: with your description it should not have that much options tbh |
| 10:22.20 | NeoTron | Trefan == lock |
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| 10:22.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 10:22.25 | NeoTron | Malefic ;-) |
| 10:22.37 | Tem | for a mage, spell damage is better |
| 10:22.49 | Grum | Tem: i doubt that tbh |
| 10:23.05 | Tem | it's only /slightly/ better |
| 10:23.18 | Trefane | you mean "Pawn with a brain"? or the description i committed it with? |
| 10:23.20 | Grum | the problem is you can get fear with spellhaste easier than with more dmg |
| 10:23.27 | Tem | and the only reason it's "better" is that it decreases your dpm |
| 10:23.29 | theoddone33 | I cry every time I see a pve paladin with light's justice equipped |
| 10:23.33 | theoddone33 | and I think |
| 10:23.35 | theoddone33 | "what?!" |
| 10:23.45 | Grum | erm Trefane, sorry, i meant your 'lock setup' should not have 5000+ combinations to test tbh |
| 10:24.04 | Grum | unless you have added SHITLOADS of gear |
| 10:24.56 | Trefane | start with a set of 18 items, then add shoulders. now you've got 36. add pants and you've got 72. add gloves and... |
| 10:25.05 | Grum | no? |
| 10:25.11 | Trefane | sorry, that's not right... |
| 10:25.15 | Grum | you said you have 4/5 t6 |
| 10:25.20 | Grum | so that locks 4 slots directly |
| 10:25.28 | Grum | because you just have 4 pieces and demand 4 pieces |
| 10:25.37 | NeoTron | Trefane: well you just made my day man |
| 10:25.39 | Grum | so those 4 will fit in those slots no matter what |
| 10:25.45 | NeoTron | thanks |
| 10:26.07 | Trefane | my eval list includes the 5th piece plus all the offset items (shoulders, head, pants, seacaller slippers i don't have yet) |
| 10:26.55 | Trefane | plus it looks at other inventory items if they apply, and i'm usually carrying some pvp gear |
| 10:27.30 | Trefane | glad you like it |
| 10:27.51 | Trefane | glad it's working :) like i said, i'm paranoid about checkins |
| 10:27.57 | Grum | i'd have to try it out |
| 10:28.06 | Grum | how long does it take to 'suggest' a set? |
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| 10:28.12 | NeoTron | wow that's a surpris |
| 10:28.33 | NeoTron | it picked different pants/legs for me for my 202min spell hit set :P |
| 10:28.34 | Trefane | depends entirely on how much gear you have. generally about a second for what i carry |
| 10:28.54 | Trefane | if i open my bank, could be minutes |
| 10:29.16 | Trefane | hover the mouse over the question mark to see totals |
| 10:29.35 | Trefane | and you can see what items it's looking at as it goes |
| 10:30.09 | Grum | wtb this tool offline as well |
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| 10:32.30 | NeoTron | Trefane: when importing pawn, it fails to recognise SpellDamage |
| 10:32.59 | Kerafyrm | wtb this tool and ratingsbuster offline!!!! |
| 10:33.04 | Grum | Trefane: any reason why you are using XML for your frame creation? |
| 10:33.11 | Trefane | ok, wrote it down |
| 10:33.11 | Grum | (and polluting global namespace with it?) |
| 10:33.12 | Kerafyrm | minor details, i know ;) |
| 10:33.19 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62205 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark: support for vertical power bars. |
| 10:33.28 | clad|office | Grum: does polluting the global namespace cause any harm? |
| 10:33.31 | Trefane | i started with wowuidesigner |
| 10:33.41 | Grum | clad|away: yes! |
| 10:33.47 | clad|office | Grum: What harm? |
| 10:33.55 | clad|office | I'm interested now, since it was a rhetorical question :P |
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| 10:34.10 | Grum | as was the seriousness of my answer :) |
| 10:34.21 | clad|office | heh |
| 10:34.31 | Kalroth | Pollution is always bad. |
| 10:34.39 | Grum | just curious why you would use fugly xml instead of elegant and readable lua :P |
| 10:34.43 | Trefane | and this is actually my first addon of anything more than 50 lines |
| 10:34.54 | clad|office | Grum: because thats a matter of opinion, XML is well structured and validatable, Lua is not. |
| 10:34.55 | Kalroth | elegant Lua? |
| 10:35.06 | Tem | I swear to god I want to stab Rowne for starting that "zomg Poluting the global namespace" crap |
| 10:35.10 | clad|office | I don't like seeing people discouraging someone from using XML, when it may well the the correct tool for the job |
| 10:35.25 | clad|office | Tem: Meh, I could ignore Rowne, its the people who continue to push his mantle that bother me |
| 10:35.29 | clad|office | without realizing it |
| 10:35.36 | Tem | *nod* |
| 10:35.43 | Trefane | so when i started i had no idea how to make frames and such. i've learned a lot lately, but still not really clear on making frames from scratch |
| 10:35.58 | clad|office | Trefane: you've done nothing wrong, Grum is just trying to push his _opinions_ on you |
| 10:36.10 | Grum | clad|away: look back, i just asked a question |
| 10:36.19 | Grum | i was just curious why, cant care less for it being xml :) |
| 10:36.24 | clad|office | umm |
| 10:36.28 | clad|office | you can ask all the questions you want |
| 10:36.30 | Trefane | blames the tools |
| 10:36.39 | clad|office | but when they're laced with extreme bias and opinion, they're not lnoger "just innocent questions" |
| 10:36.49 | [Ammo] | for me using XML is just a nono due to the fact that I get headaches trying to achieve what I want with it, while I can do it pretty fast in lua :) |
| 10:36.52 | [Ammo] | personal pref |
| 10:37.05 | clad|office | Youre' welcome to your own opinions |
| 10:37.14 | Trefane | it's a pretty steep curve to start creating frames from nothing |
| 10:37.38 | [Ammo] | there are many examples in the blizzard code if you want a good start http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 10:37.43 | clad|office | Again, there's nothign wrong with what you've done and there is no need to apoligize |
| 10:37.44 | Trefane | although i would have preferred lua myself. i asked about this on wowinterface |
| 10:37.45 | [Ammo] | there are also lots of examples in other addons |
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| 10:38.31 | Trefane | but wowuidesigner does make it easy to get started. if you want ppl to use lua, get rid of that and make a tool that generates lua |
| 10:38.47 | [Ammo] | I don't think anyone wants anyone to use lua or xml |
| 10:38.51 | clad|office | Trefane: Lua isn't always the right tool for the job |
| 10:38.52 | [Ammo] | use whatever suits your needs |
| 10:38.54 | clad|office | yeah |
| 10:38.57 | clad|office | exactly |
| 10:39.06 | [Ammo] | or whatever you're comfortable with |
| 10:39.28 | Trefane | x86 assembly language is what i'm comfortable with...UI is alien territory |
| 10:39.35 | Kalroth | Warcraft Lua needs inline assembly! |
| 10:39.36 | Grum | ;) |
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| 10:40.04 | [Ammo] | blurgh so many bossmods to fix for 2.4 |
| 10:40.05 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 10:40.27 | Trefane | g'night folks. going to bed |
| 10:40.42 | Trefane | enjoy SmartFitter |
| 10:41.31 | Kalroth | nn |
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| 10:45.02 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62206 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: 2.4 support for Gruul |
| 10:45.18 | NeoTron | Trefane: how do you make it require a specific set? |
| 10:45.54 | Grum | <Trefane> My lock setup is Malefic Raiment:Set:4, Spell Hit:Target1:202, Spell Damage:1, Spell Crit:0.69, Spell Haste:0.72, Shadow Dmg:0.9, Fire Dmg:0.1 |
| 10:46.35 | NeoTron | but I can't add "Malefic Raiment" to the list.. |
| 10:46.56 | NeoTron | it's a drop down and not an option |
| 10:48.32 | NeoTron | ah there we go |
| 10:49.22 | Grum | could you make a screenshot of it? |
| 10:49.26 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.31 | Grum | +curious |
| 10:49.37 | NeoTron | well it's not very interesting |
| 10:49.47 | NeoTron | just install it :P |
| 10:50.57 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62207 10BabyWigs/Deadmines/Sneed.lua: BabyWigs: zomg 2.4 compatible deadmines |
| 10:51.44 | Ellipsis | I know I spend all my time on the PTR hanging out in the deadmines |
| 10:52.02 | chexsum | . |
| 10:52.04 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:52.30 | [Ammo] | need to get everything converted over before 2.4 hits live |
| 10:52.35 | [Ammo] | and it's a monster job |
| 10:53.57 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r62208 10GridStatusHots/ (GridStatusHots.lua GridStatusHots.toc): GridStatusHots: deDE update |
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| 10:54.18 | Grum | [Ammo]: thats nearly insane work - you have do do all of the bosses O.o |
| 10:54.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:54.38 | [Ammo] | well Karazhan should theoretically all work now |
| 10:54.43 | [Ammo] | TK is missing Kael'Thas |
| 10:54.48 | [Ammo] | Deadmines is all done :) |
| 10:54.54 | Kerafyrm | YES! |
| 10:54.55 | Grum | SSC missing Vashj? ;D |
| 10:54.59 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 10:55.04 | [Ammo] | didn't chekc SSC yet |
| 10:55.12 | Diao | hm |
| 10:55.23 | [Ammo] | SSC isn't done yet |
| 10:56.06 | Kerafyrm | there are hundreds if not thousands of people cheering your hard work, ammo ;) |
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| 10:57.50 | Grum | no wai, just 10 people use the addon |
| 10:57.57 | [Ammo] | I thought I was the only one |
| 10:58.00 | [Ammo] | with rabiit and funkeh |
| 10:58.03 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r62209 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: GridStatusRaidDebuff: return zone if zone is not localized in GetReverseLookupTable() call to avoid nil error |
| 10:58.04 | Grum | 3! |
| 10:58.39 | Ellipsis | if it helps, I don't use it! |
| 11:00.11 | Grum | i should make an addon called Ellipsis O.o |
| 11:01.11 | thul | hmm |
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| 11:02.27 | Ellipsis | oh noes, mah interwebs! |
| 11:04.09 | thul | I hate people that don't understand the "silence" part of libraries |
| 11:04.41 | Grum | how do you mean thul? |
| 11:04.58 | Wobin | ie, they talk in libraries |
| 11:05.05 | Wobin | not coding libraries =P |
| 11:05.08 | thul | they talk loudly, laugh loudly and act like retards :-( |
| 11:05.15 | thul | this is the fucking university library |
| 11:05.21 | thul | they should at least _try_ to be silent |
| 11:05.28 | thul | kids these days :-( |
| 11:05.31 | Wobin | You should yell at them to shut the fuck up |
| 11:05.35 | Wobin | the irony would be delicious |
| 11:05.49 | thul | haha |
| 11:05.59 | Grum | make a sign on the end of a baseball bat? |
| 11:06.00 | thul | well, I look hard at them |
| 11:06.05 | thul | well, that would do it i guess |
| 11:06.14 | thul | I get genocidal thoughts when people act like that |
| 11:06.20 | Grum | ;D |
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| 11:06.59 | toreth | hi |
| 11:08.33 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i love you [Ammo] |
| 11:08.38 | toreth | why |
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| 11:09.07 | Ellipsis | it's because of that thing he does with his tongue |
| 11:09.14 | Ellipsis | isn't it, `-FISKER_Q\? |
| 11:10.09 | DarthToreth | I am a Sith Master |
| 11:11.14 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yeah Ellipsis |
| 11:13.39 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62210 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: Kael'Thas 2.4 compat |
| 11:13.52 | DarthToreth | wowace |
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| 11:19.34 | Orionshock | ammo but 2.4 ain't out, what are you changing there? |
| 11:21.30 | [Ammo] | making sure it works in 2.4 |
| 11:21.49 | [Ammo] | BigWigs modules can be made compatible with 2.4 without breaking 2.3 compat |
| 11:22.07 | [Ammo] | that way when 2.4 hits all we have to do is strip some code and translations from the modules |
| 11:22.08 | Wobin | is there going to be much breakage of addons |
| 11:22.12 | Wobin | aside from combatlog related ones? |
| 11:22.20 | DarthToreth | why |
| 11:22.23 | [Ammo] | only stuff that relies on combatlog |
| 11:22.29 | Wobin | goodgood |
| 11:22.42 | DarthToreth | poor Wobin |
| 11:22.58 | Wobin | I was smart enough never to write anything to do with combatlog or secureframes =P |
| 11:22.59 | [Ammo] | what kind of bot are you toreth |
| 11:23.06 | [Ammo] | haha wobin |
| 11:23.12 | [Ammo] | btw mrplow still is flaky |
| 11:23.13 | DarthToreth | I am a kind of bot |
| 11:23.33 | Wobin | [Ammo]: in sorting? |
| 11:23.36 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:23.42 | [Ammo] | and sometimes leaves gaps when defragging |
| 11:23.50 | Wobin | I wish I could figure out that sorting thing |
| 11:23.53 | Wobin | and gaps? |
| 11:23.55 | [Ammo] | oh and it eats memory like a monster |
| 11:23.56 | Wobin | that's bizzare |
| 11:23.57 | DarthToreth | poor Wobin |
| 11:23.59 | Wobin | oh yes |
| 11:24.06 | Wobin | of course it does =P |
| 11:24.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=WP-Gast@*.dclient.hispeed.ch] by [Ammo] |
| 11:24.13 | *** kick/#wowace [DarthToreth!n=wouter@WoWUIDev/WowAce/ammo] by [Ammo] ([Ammo]) |
| 11:24.18 | [Ammo] | bye |
| 11:24.39 | Thorgard | poor DarthToreth |
| 11:25.18 | [Ammo] | Wobin: well I had a gap when defragging |
| 11:25.20 | [Ammo] | I did theworks |
| 11:25.26 | [Ammo] | and it left 1 gap right before the last item |
| 11:25.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:25.39 | [Ammo] | as if it didn't do the last move |
| 11:25.40 | Wobin | honestly, I'm surprised theworks... works =P |
| 11:25.51 | Wobin | I was going to put in some sort of waitqueue |
| 11:26.12 | Wobin | although maybe lag may account for those issues |
| 11:26.18 | [Ammo] | could be |
| 11:28.00 | Kerafyrm | for those interested space shuttle atlantis is just about 1 orbit away from coming home. |
| 11:28.13 | Wogroipl | didn't even know it was launched :"P |
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| 11:28.17 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 11:34.02 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i love you [Ammo] |
| 11:34.09 | `-FISKER_Q\ | like a homosexual can love a man |
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| 11:36.14 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 11:36.14 | CIA-12 | - Sunwell update |
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| 11:40.44 | Zariel | anyone know if Executioner works on ranged? |
| 11:41.34 | Zariel | nm |
| 11:41.49 | FinalX | very much doubt it |
| 11:41.58 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r62212 10GuildCraft/: |
| 11:41.59 | CIA-12 | GuildCraft: |
| 11:41.59 | CIA-12 | -Create Folder for move from google code. |
| 11:42.30 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r62213 10GuildCraft/ (17 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:42.30 | CIA-12 | GuildCraft: |
| 11:42.30 | CIA-12 | -Import this thing |
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| 11:45.54 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r62214 10GuildCraft/ (. Libs/): |
| 11:45.54 | CIA-12 | GuildCraft: |
| 11:45.54 | CIA-12 | -Fix Externals |
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| 11:47.49 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 11:49.05 | Kerafyrm | ? |
| 11:49.20 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r62215 10GuildCraft/GuildCraft.toc: GuildCraft: ...add toc file... that would help :\ |
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| 11:50.13 | Orionshock | ^^ ... forgot my toc file some how -.- |
| 11:50.29 | Ellipsis | pfft, toc files... who needs 'em |
| 11:51.47 | Orionshock | ..right |
| 11:53.02 | Orionshock | just praying that that transition dosn't fook it badly |
| 11:53.25 | Thorgard | God damn, anyone selling a car.. cheap.. near Houston? |
| 11:53.57 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 11:54.03 | Ellipsis | having problems Thorgard? |
| 11:55.29 | Thorgard | Aye. Car's going to the junkyard, I'm outta wheels and work's across town. Bollocks. |
| 11:55.54 | Kerafyrm | i'll sell my 97 4x4 yukon for 7,000 ;) |
| 11:56.00 | Kerafyrm | but i'm not in texas ;P |
| 11:56.10 | Thorgard | Roadtrip! |
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| 11:56.33 | Kerafyrm | hehe |
| 11:58.43 | Thorgard | Hmm.. Survive Style 5 Plus is an odd movie. |
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| 12:05.52 | vhaarr | Any Korean people around? |
| 12:05.59 | break19 | Thorgard: need a car still? lol |
| 12:06.03 | vhaarr | or asian, I guess. |
| 12:06.28 | CIA-12 | 03apoco * r62216 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 12:06.28 | CIA-12 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 12:06.28 | CIA-12 | - Minor BugFix. |
| 12:06.42 | Xinhuan | i'm Asian |
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| 12:07.16 | Elkano | vhaarr, want to beat them for breaking GridStatusHots? |
| 12:07.23 | Wobin | rrrr |
| 12:07.36 | Wobin | Why doesn't libbabbleboss load? |
| 12:07.51 | vhaarr | no |
| 12:08.03 | break19 | xin's a poor singer.. xin, singer, poor.. .... ... meh its early. |
| 12:08.13 | Tifi | are there other addons like smartbuff? |
| 12:08.24 | Orionshock | ya who bork'ed GSH? |
| 12:09.27 | vhaarr | I want them to run /script for k in pairs(RAID_CLASS_COLORS) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k:lower():gsub("^%l", string.upper)) end and tell me if the output matches the class names from the first return from UnitClass |
| 12:09.28 | Elkano | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=62146 did I think |
| 12:09.45 | Xinhuan | who vhaarr? |
| 12:09.53 | vhaarr | any random asian person |
| 12:10.01 | Xinhuan | i use an enUS client ;p |
| 12:10.03 | vhaarr | I know it matches for all EU locales |
| 12:10.44 | CIA-12 | 03noodles * r62217 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 12:10.44 | CIA-12 | PitBull |
| 12:10.44 | CIA-12 | - PitBull_MetaLayout zhTW locale fix |
| 12:10.53 | vhaarr | see there's a zhTW commit |
| 12:10.57 | vhaarr | why isn't that guy here |
| 12:11.05 | Ellipsis | because translators don't like us |
| 12:11.10 | vhaarr | they stink |
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| 12:11.14 | Xinhuan | that just takes the capital letter english strings and capitalizes the first letter, lowers the rest |
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| 12:11.22 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: oh really, I had no idea. |
| 12:11.29 | vhaarr | thanks for the clarification |
| 12:11.34 | vhaarr | now what's your point? :P |
| 12:11.34 | Xinhuan | np! |
| 12:11.44 | Tifi | err vhaarr it doesn't match (deDE) |
| 12:11.45 | Xinhuan | my point is those are constants, so they will work on any client |
| 12:11.49 | Xinhuan | even chinese ones! |
| 12:11.51 | vhaarr | Tifi: really? |
| 12:11.57 | Tifi | hrm |
| 12:12.00 | Tifi | on ptr |
| 12:12.11 | Tifi | dunno about live |
| 12:12.23 | vhaarr | Tifi: what doesn't match exactly? |
| 12:12.27 | Tifi | ptr has localization issues atm though |
| 12:12.29 | vhaarr | that doesn't make sense |
| 12:13.05 | Tifi | first return from UnitClass is localized |
| 12:13.22 | vhaarr | ah crap, nevermind |
| 12:13.39 | vhaarr | I haven't had my coffee yet so I didn't think straight, apparently |
| 12:13.52 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: well what I need is the translated class names for all classes without using the guild roster or a party roster. |
| 12:13.55 | Thorgard | break19, yes, I do. ;P |
| 12:14.00 | Tifi | you can use RAID_CLASS_COLORS[select(2,UnitClass(unitid))] |
| 12:14.01 | Xinhuan | not possible |
| 12:14.07 | vhaarr | that's what I though |
| 12:14.09 | Xinhuan | you require babble-class |
| 12:14.09 | vhaarr | +t |
| 12:14.22 | vhaarr | I'll make a LibBabble-Class-3.0 then |
| 12:14.30 | Xinhuan | i actually scanned thru all of blizzard code - they have no references to any damn localized class strings |
| 12:14.36 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 12:14.43 | vhaarr | I checked GlobalStrings.lua as well |
| 12:14.45 | vhaarr | nothing |
| 12:14.51 | Xinhuan | their raid UI is a hack |
| 12:14.57 | Xinhuan | they loop over all raid members |
| 12:15.03 | Xinhuan | and any class that doesn't exist, they disable the buttons |
| 12:15.07 | vhaarr | craptastic |
| 12:15.08 | break19 | well, im on the same interstate as you... IH-10, and i have a 95 rodeo for sales.. $2500 runs good, ac works.. needs new tires tho :P |
| 12:15.08 | Xinhuan | so they don't have to provide the localized string |
| 12:15.17 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r62218 10Chinchilla/locale/frFR.lua: Chinchilla: frFR Update |
| 12:15.21 | Tifi | what if class is not present? |
| 12:15.29 | vhaarr | he just said, lern2read |
| 12:15.42 | Tifi | meh im slow -.- |
| 12:15.52 | break19 | Thorgard: only problem is... there's 2 states between us.. im in AL :P |
| 12:16.04 | Thorgard | D'oh. |
| 12:16.23 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I thought maybe they had added some magic, so I tried doing /print UnitClass("WARRIOR") but that didn't work either :P |
| 12:16.33 | vhaarr | that should've worked tbh! |
| 12:16.35 | Xinhuan | they didn't, their ui is a total hack ;d |
| 12:16.56 | vhaarr | with all this unitid <> unitname accepting in Unit* functions |
| 12:16.58 | Xinhuan | they obtain the localized string from select(2, UnitClass(unitid)) |
| 12:17.02 | vhaarr | yeye |
| 12:17.07 | vhaarr | nubs |
| 12:17.11 | thul | NUBS! |
| 12:17.30 | break19 | yea, it actually is for sale.. but its been a good little truck... i'll be sad to see it go, whenever it sells |
| 12:17.37 | Xinhuan | and gluexml isn't availabel to us :( |
| 12:17.41 | Xinhuan | to obtain the class strings |
| 12:19.03 | break19 | nubs.. that's my nickname for my wife, referrin to her short legs. |
| 12:19.41 | break19 | yesterday, seh goes "go to work for me" "uhm.. you'd have to cut my legs off at the knees" "fuck you" lol |
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| 12:20.03 | Thorgard | Haha |
| 12:20.11 | Thorgard | That's just not right. |
| 12:20.13 | break19 | seh=she |
| 12:21.04 | break19 | Thorgard: when we sit next each other, shes about an inch taller than me, but shes 5'3" and im 6' while standing.... |
| 12:21.50 | Thorgard | :o |
| 12:22.09 | break19 | one of her older sisters has the same long body, but also has long legs.. she's about 4in taller than me. |
| 12:22.41 | Thorgard | Well, enough about the legs. What about the other measurements? |
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| 12:23.37 | break19 | myob :) |
| 12:23.59 | Thorgard | What! I thought we were in a sharing mood? ;P |
| 12:24.10 | Thorgard | Fine. |
| 12:24.17 | break19 | lol.. there's a limit heh |
| 12:24.40 | Kalroth | We don't need names, just boobie measurements! |
| 12:25.57 | baer_ | Kalroth: /agree. :) |
| 12:27.38 | break19 | heh |
| 12:28.00 | break19 | why? anything more than a mouthful is wasted... |
| 12:28.17 | Hobby | Thorgard: don't drive angry! |
| 12:29.26 | Thorgard | Hobby, you go fall down some stairs.. or, give me your car. ;P |
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| 12:29.43 | Hobby | actually...i'm flying out to sand diego later today |
| 12:29.48 | Hobby | you can have it for 10 days |
| 12:29.55 | Hobby | san diego even |
| 12:29.56 | Thorgard | That works.. |
| 12:30.00 | Hobby | though it is sandy |
| 12:30.23 | Thorgard | You got your own airport nearby. Hobby Airport, can I pick it up there? |
| 12:30.46 | Hobby | if it doesn't get stolen first |
| 12:30.56 | Hobby | it is an airport parking lot |
| 12:31.54 | Thorgard | You have no faith in your fellow man.. nobody would just.. take your property like that. |
| 12:31.54 | Wogroipl | Thorgard: http://www.houstonusedautos.com/ :D |
| 12:32.44 | Thorgard | Wogroipl, no results found. ;P |
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| 12:33.18 | Thorgard | I got a tip, though.. checkin' it out tomor.. today. |
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| 12:38.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i still love you!1 |
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| 12:49.48 | break19 | hey Xinhuan, can handynotes display notes on the minimap? |
| 12:50.01 | Xinhuan | yes |
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| 12:50.30 | break19 | excellent |
| 12:53.02 | Fin | what is handynotes? just a map notes type addon? |
| 12:53.46 | Fin | heheheheheheheheh, "bigsack" |
| 12:53.54 | Fin | heheheheheh |
| 12:54.28 | Fin | no wai! I'm on top! |
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| 12:57.00 | Fin | oh, it's not in trunk yet? I'll wait til it's readier then :) |
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| 13:04.30 | Wobin | Why isn't LibBabbleBoss loading? |
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| 13:07.06 | Josh_Borke | because you suck |
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| 13:14.58 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r62224 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 13:14.58 | CIA-12 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 13:14.58 | CIA-12 | _ run the dataminer |
| 13:14.58 | CIA-12 | _ add several requested items |
| 13:17.17 | Elkano | \o/ got my DropDown working ;) |
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| 13:17.53 | Elkano | relocating to lecture... brb |
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| 13:24.29 | Zhinjio | efficiency question.... in dealing with tables. |
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| 13:24.51 | Zhinjio | from an access and insertion/removal perspective... is there any benefit to having a table like: |
| 13:25.35 | Zhinjio | blort = { ID = { name = "toonname", class = "toonclass" } } vs ... |
| 13:25.55 | Zhinjio | blort = { ID = { "toonname" = "toonclass" }, ID = {...} } |
| 13:26.13 | Zhinjio | or is it simply a matter of being "clearer" when accessing the tables |
| 13:26.24 | Zhinjio | instead of having to decipher pairs() each time |
| 13:27.19 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r62225 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: update zhCN local |
| 13:27.34 | Zhinjio | in other words, accessing blort[ID].class directly instead of having to loop on pairs to get that out. |
| 13:27.49 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 13:28.05 | Zhinjio | actually, no pairs, it would just be blort[ID][1] and blort[ID][2] |
| 13:28.31 | Zhinjio | no, its a pair. nm. |
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| 13:32.28 | Grum | Zhinjio: just make a variable: local NAME, CLASS = 1,2 -- blort[ID][NAME] and blort[ID][CLASS] |
| 13:32.52 | Grum | sure whenever you dump the table it will be messy looking but that is not really important ;D |
| 13:33.53 | Tifi | well it's faster to access a table a single time by a key than to loop over an entire table |
| 13:34.50 | chexsum | if toonname is static use the second way imo |
| 13:35.04 | CIA-12 | 03daviesh * r62226 10AtlasLoot/Instances/instances.en.lua: |
| 13:35.04 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:35.05 | CIA-12 | - Sunwell Plateau update |
| 13:36.21 | Tifi | why not blort = { ["name1"] = "class1", ["name2"] = "class2", }? |
| 13:36.37 | chexsum | or blort = { ID = { "toonname" = { class = "noob"} } } :P |
| 13:37.07 | Kulaar | ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal Condition |
| 13:37.09 | Kulaar | Program:D:\World of Warcraft\WoWTest\WoW.exe |
| 13:37.11 | Kulaar | File:.\GxuFontMain.cpp |
| 13:37.13 | Kulaar | Line:230 |
| 13:37.15 | Kulaar | ( fontHeight < 1.0f ) && ( fontHeight > 0 ) |
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| 13:37.29 | Kulaar | someone got an idea to solve this problem? |
| 13:37.30 | RaydenUni | They're looking into guild and raid attunements, but "no promises." |
| 13:37.32 | RaydenUni | that would be sweet |
| 13:37.39 | RaydenUni | your guild has to do a big quest to attune for a dungeon |
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| 13:39.37 | chexsum | too bad for the unguilded people |
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| 13:44.35 | Civrock | http://ace.pastey.net/82675 |
| 13:45.24 | Xinhuan | o_O |
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| 13:52.02 | RaydenUni | "clicking blink instead of sheep on accident and wipping the raid. " heh |
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| 13:56.01 | RaydenUni | when were there 15 and 20 man raids? |
| 13:56.25 | RaydenUni | oh UBRS in 1.1 |
| 13:56.37 | RaydenUni | and ZG is 20 i guess |
| 13:59.02 | RaydenUni | "They've already said they may introduce an archdruid in wotlk" <-- huh? |
| 13:59.16 | Kerafyrm | where'd you get that from? |
| 13:59.21 | RaydenUni | wowinsider comment |
| 13:59.24 | RaydenUni | so very sketchy |
| 13:59.31 | Grum | BRS is the only 15m |
| 14:00.51 | RaydenUni | http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Astro+Nick/archdruid-hero-class-is-coming-wow-thats-cool-get-it-its-a-pun--68921.phtml |
| 14:01.13 | RaydenUni | 14days old |
| 14:01.28 | Elkano | wrt the arch druid I think it will rather come after WotLK is released... but who knows... |
| 14:02.09 | Grum | i dont get blizzard |
| 14:02.11 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/06/tigole-talks-about-inscription-and-hero-classes-in-wrath/ |
| 14:02.18 | Grum | they have the worst problem creating balance in classes |
| 14:02.27 | Grum | and they will be adding new ones one by one |
| 14:02.32 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 14:02.44 | Grum | and therefor creating surges of a certain class, unhappy people .. |
| 14:02.44 | RaydenUni | i think overall they do well with balance |
| 14:02.54 | Grum | yeah they do after loads and loads of work |
| 14:03.00 | RaydenUni | how else do you do it? |
| 14:03.06 | RaydenUni | 9 classes with 3 specs each |
| 14:03.11 | RaydenUni | that's 27 "classes" to balance |
| 14:03.14 | RaydenUni | that's a LOT of work |
| 14:03.17 | Grum | yes but now you add 'one more' .. |
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| 14:03.19 | Grum | that is a pain |
| 14:03.29 | RaydenUni | eh |
| 14:03.32 | RaydenUni | you don't need 100% balance |
| 14:03.39 | RaydenUni | 99% is good enough for most things |
| 14:03.43 | Elkano | 3 specs each? you forget hybrids... |
| 14:03.46 | RaydenUni | and it changes so tack on 2% more leeway there |
| 14:03.52 | RaydenUni | hybrids have more than 3 specs? |
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| 14:04.04 | RaydenUni | only one i know of is druid with feral |
| 14:04.06 | Elkano | and I doubt other mmorpgs in that scale have a better balance |
| 14:04.19 | RaydenUni | guild wars balance has always been wonky hasn't it? |
| 14:04.26 | Grum | if you would add another 'super shift class' to every class |
| 14:04.27 | RaydenUni | it gets around it by having a HUGE variety of spells and specs |
| 14:04.31 | Grum | that should make it easier to balance out |
| 14:04.37 | RaydenUni | super shift class? |
| 14:04.38 | RaydenUni | what's that? |
| 14:04.41 | Grum | well |
| 14:04.46 | Grum | basicly a shapeshift form orso |
| 14:04.48 | Grum | for every class |
| 14:05.04 | RaydenUni | how would that make it easier to balance? |
| 14:05.14 | Elkano | Super Sayajin Mk IV? |
| 14:05.16 | Grum | guess nothing is easy :P |
| 14:05.19 | Grum | yes Elkano ! |
| 14:05.23 | sdouble | he's saying it's crap that a druid can just shape shift out of 90% of things |
| 14:05.24 | Grum | but than for a shadowpriest! =D |
| 14:05.25 | RaydenUni | look at fighting games |
| 14:05.32 | RaydenUni | there are no fighting games with perfect balance |
| 14:05.40 | sdouble | Not really, but I'm saying that. |
| 14:05.54 | RaydenUni | actually, hardly any games have perfect balance |
| 14:05.57 | RaydenUni | starcraft is pretty good |
| 14:06.04 | RaydenUni | but they've been tweaking it for the last 10 years |
| 14:06.04 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:06.07 | Elkano | also you not only have to balance classes but also groups of peoples from different classes.... |
| 14:06.27 | RaydenUni | true, if you look at 5 man dungeon balancing that's 1 tank, 1 healer, and 3 dps |
| 14:06.33 | Wobin | actually |
| 14:06.37 | RaydenUni | 3 types of tanks correct? |
| 14:06.41 | Wobin | if they removed PVP they could easily balance the classes =P |
| 14:06.42 | RaydenUni | 4 types of healers? |
| 14:06.50 | Grum | RaydenUni: why not 0 tanks or something else? |
| 14:06.53 | Wobin | pally shammy priest druid? |
| 14:06.55 | RaydenUni | and 9 types of dps? |
| 14:07.07 | Grum | shaman tank? |
| 14:07.13 | RaydenUni | so that's 3*4*9 different kinds of groups they have to balance |
| 14:07.23 | Elkano | yeah, did shaman tanking in 1.x |
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| 14:07.25 | RaydenUni | *if* they want all tank, 3x dps, healer groups to be equally viable |
| 14:07.34 | Grum | shaman tanking? |
| 14:07.39 | Grum | then a hunter can also tank O.o |
| 14:07.44 | RaydenUni | which is 108 different possibilities for 5 man dungeons |
| 14:07.47 | Wobin | Our mage often tanks with his face |
| 14:07.47 | RaydenUni | without considering spec |
| 14:07.50 | Elkano | well, shamans can wear shields ;) |
| 14:08.25 | Wobin | so can hunters, they're called pets =) |
| 14:08.29 | Wobin | MEAT SHIELD |
| 14:08.36 | RaydenUni | no pvp means you have more leeway in pve |
| 14:08.38 | Grum | tbh, take a t6 healer and a t6 tank and shit just works |
| 14:08.44 | Wobin | RaydenUni: 'xactly |
| 14:08.45 | RaydenUni | not all classes have to be equally effective, just uniquely effective |
| 14:09.04 | Kerafyrm | space shuttle atlantis has come home safe and sound.... |
| 14:09.05 | RaydenUni | because shadow priests offer something no other class offers, they are useful for raids |
| 14:09.20 | RaydenUni | doesn't mean they are necessarily "equally" effective |
| 14:09.29 | Grum | RaydenUni; all classes but rogues are 'useful' for raids :0 |
| 14:09.44 | RaydenUni | yeah rogues add no utility at all, heh |
| 14:09.45 | Wobin | =( |
| 14:09.49 | Wobin | I can sap! |
| 14:09.50 | RaydenUni | uber dps! |
| 14:09.56 | Elkano | but rogues can disarm traps!!! ;) |
| 14:10.01 | Wobin | s'true |
| 14:10.08 | Grum | Elkano: kekk |
| 14:10.11 | RaydenUni | i think mobs shoudl give group buffs |
| 14:10.14 | Wobin | I can totally vanish =) |
| 14:10.17 | sdouble | I disarm traps with my leg. |
| 14:10.18 | Elkano | wasn't there one dungeon where they were intended to do that? |
| 14:10.25 | Grum | my tank can disarm a trap |
| 14:10.29 | Elkano | BWL or so |
| 14:10.34 | RaydenUni | Wobin that counts as negative for utility. staying alive when everyone else dies gets you raid aggro |
| 14:10.34 | Grum | Elkano: BWL supression room |
| 14:10.48 | Wobin | RaydenUni: pft, I'm not paying their repair bills =P |
| 14:10.53 | Elkano | reminds me of "The Gamers" ;) "Who has most hit points?" |
| 14:11.04 | Wobin | I'd do the same on my hunter |
| 14:11.04 | Wobin | and mage =P |
| 14:11.16 | Wobin | A pre-emptive Invis is always useful |
| 14:11.26 | RaydenUni | a pally in my guild said it costs him 8g every time he dies |
| 14:11.31 | RaydenUni | i never knew plate cost so much |
| 14:11.41 | Grum | tbh i dont believe that |
| 14:11.42 | RaydenUni | now the professor is playing ut2004 in class :P |
| 14:11.46 | Wobin | It's the joys of cloth wearing |
| 14:11.56 | Wobin | (or death avoidance) |
| 14:11.58 | Grum | cloth is 30-40g for full red |
| 14:12.12 | Wobin | Grum: It's still cheaper than plate =) |
| 14:12.15 | RaydenUni | depends on the gear |
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| 14:12.23 | Hobby-damndiscon | Hmm, did tinytip get broken recently? |
| 14:12.25 | RaydenUni | for full epics but not greens |
| 14:12.38 | Wobin | don't worry |
| 14:12.42 | Wobin | when wotlk comes out |
| 14:12.42 | Grum | afaik they patched the repaircosts to be closer together |
| 14:12.45 | Wobin | we'll all be wearing greens |
| 14:12.51 | Hobby-damndiscon | greys* |
| 14:12.55 | Grum | no way |
| 14:13.08 | Wobin | wai |
| 14:13.26 | `-FISKER_Q\ | hai |
| 14:14.37 | Fisker- | O HAI |
| 14:14.49 | Zhinjio | question about table order integrity... |
| 14:14.58 | Grum | answered! |
| 14:15.05 | Grum | so fast! lightning speed .. rawrr |
| 14:15.14 | Zhinjio | if I have a table like ... blort = { ID = "someString", ID = "anotherString", ... } |
| 14:15.26 | Zhinjio | given that ID will be a unique hex string key ... |
| 14:15.38 | Zhinjio | and I do inserts into that list |
| 14:16.00 | Zhinjio | is the order of the list maintained? |
| 14:16.03 | Grum | no |
| 14:16.17 | Elkano | it's not a list but a hash, so no |
| 14:16.19 | Grum | keys have random order unless you dont use em and use the array indices |
| 14:16.25 | Zhinjio | shit |
| 14:16.28 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 14:17.06 | Zhinjio | so more like ... blort = { [1] = { id = "ID", name = "someString" }, [2] = ... } then |
| 14:17.09 | Elkano | you could add a metatable that creates a list of all keys and sorts that on every insert of a new key |
| 14:17.09 | Zhinjio | to maintain order |
| 14:17.25 | Zhinjio | well, it won't be a sorted list |
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| 14:17.34 | Zhinjio | the hash isn't sequential. |
| 14:17.36 | Grum | Zhinjio: what are you storing? |
| 14:18.13 | Elkano | well, if you don't sort it and simply add each new key to the end these will sty in order |
| 14:18.14 | Zhinjio | the id will be a hash of the player's main' name, and "someString" will be a timestamp of the last time that player changed position in the list |
| 14:18.39 | Grum | why store it like that? |
| 14:18.49 | Elkano | but why do you want it to stay ordered? |
| 14:18.57 | Grum | why not just; local table = { "player" = time, ... } |
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| 14:19.35 | Zhinjio | this is for the Suicide Kings loot distribution thinger. The "list" is the ordered list of who gets looting rights. The higher you are in the list (closest to position 1), the higher your "bidding power" so to speak. |
| 14:19.43 | Zhinjio | yeah, Grum, I could do that too. |
| 14:19.53 | Wobin | Zhinjio: so do it as an indexed list |
| 14:20.02 | Zhinjio | that isn't as important as the outer indexes keeping me in the correct order. |
| 14:20.04 | Wobin | rather than a hash |
| 14:20.14 | Zhinjio | right. |
| 14:20.25 | Elkano | well, use two tables: a list of the names and a hast name->timestamp |
| 14:20.27 | Zhinjio | the hash is still necessary, but just as an ID, not as an ordering mechanism |
| 14:20.39 | Zhinjio | ah, hmm. |
| 14:21.03 | Elkano | then you can keep the name list in order and still have the timestamps |
| 14:21.21 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
| 14:21.26 | Elkano | also you will have less tables than with your nested table approach |
| 14:21.40 | Zhinjio | is that more efficient that way? |
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| 14:22.32 | Wobin | less tables are more efficient |
| 14:22.40 | Pheredhel | yes, and you create less garbage |
| 14:22.44 | Zhinjio | stands to reason. |
| 14:22.48 | Xinhuan | and 1 dimensional tables > 2 dimensional ones |
| 14:22.50 | Wobin | You only use more tables if you need to store more info |
| 14:23.03 | Zhinjio | I could also do... like ... hmm |
| 14:23.28 | Zhinjio | blort = { [1] = "IDhash" .. "|" .. timestamp, [2] = .. } |
| 14:23.40 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:23.47 | Zhinjio | that'll keep everything in 1 table still. |
| 14:24.07 | Wobin | well then it's a tradeoff between an extra table and the processing required to explode the argument =) |
| 14:24.10 | Pheredhel | yeah, but would do concats and you would have to parse the sting for the infromation |
| 14:24.12 | Zhinjio | yeah |
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| 14:24.43 | Zhinjio | I just don't like the idea of not keeping all the data in one table. |
| 14:25.03 | Zhinjio | organizationally, having two tables disassociates my data from each other. |
| 14:25.07 | Wobin | nothing wrong with more tables |
| 14:25.11 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 14:25.13 | Wobin | as long as the index is immutable |
| 14:25.29 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 14:25.40 | Wobin | hell, you can use the table itself as an index if you want |
| 14:26.15 | Zhinjio | actually, moving the "lastMod" field into its own table kind makes sense too. |
| 14:26.29 | Zhinjio | so long as I can do that for all the lists in one table, and not separate ones. |
| 14:26.37 | Zhinjio | yeah, that still makes organizational sense. |
| 14:26.47 | Wobin | welcome to normalisation =) |
| 14:27.09 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
| 14:27.10 | Wobin | well you -could- denormalise and shard =P |
| 14:27.50 | Wobin | night all |
| 14:29.08 | kenlyric | man, why didn't I bind a/d to strage two years ago? |
| 14:29.14 | kenlyric | *strafe |
| 14:29.41 | Wobin | cause you're a keyboard turner? |
| 14:29.53 | kenlyric | I was young, I needed the money |
| 14:30.06 | kenlyric | I was also a priest, what is turning?!?! |
| 14:30.25 | Wobin | If I use my mouse to turn, how do I click Rend? |
| 14:30.27 | kenlyric | FACE THE WALL AND SPAM BUTTON |
| 14:30.38 | Wobin | PRES BUTAN |
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| 14:50.38 | RaydenUni | whew, went through all my wowinsider feed articles |
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| 14:52.22 | kenlyric | in netherwing cave, did they close up that little gap you could use to get to the flayers right at the beginning? |
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| 14:52.38 | CIA-12 | 03maqjav * r62234 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (TableRegister.xml loottables.es.lua): |
| 14:52.38 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:52.38 | CIA-12 | - esES update to the last rev. |
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| 14:53.39 | Snago | kenlyric: I thought that was a feature, not a bug :D |
| 14:53.59 | CIA-12 | 03maqjav * r62235 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.es.lua: |
| 14:53.59 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:53.59 | CIA-12 | - esES update to the last rev. |
| 14:54.00 | kenlyric | me too |
| 14:54.02 | kenlyric | but I can't get through |
| 14:54.21 | Snago | :\ |
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| 15:01.57 | mikma | Antiar1: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11496.msg182297#msg182297 |
| 15:02.43 | Fisker- | anyone know if i can add a test timer to incubator? |
| 15:03.18 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62237 10BabyWigs/BabyWigs.toc: BabyWigs: .toc tweak to make it inline with littlewigs |
| 15:03.31 | Fisker- | why don't you want Ace3 tags? |
| 15:03.40 | [Ammo] | no need for branding |
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| 15:05.36 | CIA-12 | 03dodge * r62238 10CoolDownButtons/CoolDownButtons.toc: CoolDownButtons: removed Ace3 Tag from .toc :E |
| 15:06.03 | [Ammo] | Ace3 is not magic sauce that will make your addons better |
| 15:06.08 | [Ammo] | no need to brand them as such |
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| 15:08.00 | Grum | [Ammo]: it is! |
| 15:08.02 | Fisker- | yeah i get it, just wouldn't have guessed it was so big an issue that you wanted them to remove it :P |
| 15:08.05 | Grum | without ace you addon has to suck |
| 15:08.18 | Maldivia | personally, I've never understood the necessity to tag with libraries... go World of Warcraft -DirectX- ? :) |
| 15:08.29 | Zhinjio | huh |
| 15:08.42 | Gnarfoz | trying to prevent what happened with ace/ace2, I guess ;P |
| 15:08.58 | [Ammo] | people see -Ace2- and think ZOMG efficient addon |
| 15:09.01 | Grum | ehhe |
| 15:09.08 | [Ammo] | while 80% of the addons on the svn are written very badly |
| 15:09.13 | Grum | maybe we should make an 'EFFICIENT ADDON TAG' :D |
| 15:09.14 | [Ammo] | where very is an understatement |
| 15:09.21 | Grum | -EAT- \o/ |
| 15:09.26 | Maldivia | lol |
| 15:09.29 | Zhinjio | ok, so remember the conversation some of us had about ... addon.funcname = function( self, blah, foo, bar ) being equivalent to function addon.funcname( blah, foo, bar )?? |
| 15:09.40 | Zhinjio | er, addon:funcname |
| 15:09.51 | Grum | yes equal |
| 15:09.53 | [Ammo] | what about it zhnjo |
| 15:10.06 | Zhinjio | so... another example I just tried failed. |
| 15:10.10 | Zhinjio | specifically... |
| 15:10.15 | [Ammo] | show it |
| 15:10.16 | Grum | ~fail Zhinjio |
| 15:10.17 | purl | Zhinjio: Fail. |
| 15:10.31 | Zhinjio | SKG.OnCommReceive.PLRRM = function( self, prefix, distribution, sender, message ) |
| 15:10.35 | Zhinjio | I tried... |
| 15:10.43 | Grum | and you called it with? |
| 15:10.47 | [Ammo] | the self you receive there is the 'OnCommReceive' |
| 15:10.53 | Zhinjio | function SKG:OnCommReceive.PLRRM( prefix, distribution, sender, message ) |
| 15:11.01 | Zhinjio | and it gave me an error saying there should be a ( where the . is |
| 15:11.03 | Grum | wrong way around :) |
| 15:11.03 | Maldivia | function SKG.OnCommreceive:PLRRM(prefix, ...) |
| 15:11.06 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 15:11.09 | Grum | yup |
| 15:11.11 | Zhinjio | OH! |
| 15:11.12 | [Ammo] | like maldivia says |
| 15:11.13 | Zhinjio | heheheee |
| 15:11.25 | Zhinjio | ok then. |
| 15:11.28 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
| 15:11.52 | [Ammo] | read the pil |
| 15:11.59 | Elkano | blue or red one? |
| 15:12.27 | Maldivia | take both, and turn purple instead? |
| 15:12.28 | Tifi | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 15:12.50 | Grum | mix the red with coke and get pink! |
| 15:13.12 | Zhinjio | yeah, I spend alot of time in that document as it is. |
| 15:13.59 | Zhinjio | I gotta say, in all the technical documentation I've read, and written myself... that isn't the friendliest one I've ever seen. |
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| 15:15.12 | Zhinjio | OMG. |
| 15:15.14 | Tifi | it's a tutorial style walk-through |
| 15:15.19 | Zhinjio | my wife's flight left Chicago EARLY |
| 15:15.21 | Zhinjio | WTF. |
| 15:15.44 | Zhinjio | the world may very well be coming to an end. |
| 15:16.08 | Elkano | why? didn't your girlfriend leave, yet? |
| 15:16.27 | Zhinjio | har. |
| 15:16.33 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:16.36 | Zhinjio | no, flights never leave ORD on time. |
| 15:17.01 | [SW]Dodge | what is the use of "local _G = _G" ? |
| 15:17.08 | [Ammo] | quicker access |
| 15:17.16 | [Ammo] | very very small performance increase :) |
| 15:17.20 | [Ammo] | very very very very small |
| 15:17.21 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:17.26 | mikma | small liek? |
| 15:17.37 | [Ammo] | small like your penis |
| 15:17.45 | mikma | there we go |
| 15:17.51 | [Ammo] | I hate you mikma |
| 15:17.54 | mikma | i was thinking that you're gonna say that ;) |
| 15:17.58 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:18.04 | [SW]Dodge | small as hell?^^ |
| 15:18.33 | mikma | [Ammo]: it's not the size, it's the speed of hip |
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| 15:19.24 | Zhinjio | Elkano: I still get that same behavior I talked to you about awhile back with EBB... when an item buff fades, I get the full screen width bar for a second or so before it disappears. |
| 15:19.25 | sylvanaar_work | almost none |
| 15:19.34 | sylvanaar_work | _G is special cased in C |
| 15:19.58 | Zhinjio | I guess I should look into the code myself if I want it to be fixed? |
| 15:20.40 | pb_ee1 | good idea ;p |
| 15:20.48 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:20.54 | Grum | omg mikma has no penus? |
| 15:20.59 | Tifi | how do you know that, sylvanaar? |
| 15:21.23 | sylvanaar_work | i have read the source |
| 15:22.42 | Tifi | and how does this special treatment work? |
| 15:23.43 | Tifi | (and not interfere with setfenv) |
| 15:24.07 | sylvanaar_work | what? |
| 15:24.13 | RaydenUni | for the druid lvl 50 quest in ST, you have to clear all of the lower section? |
| 15:24.20 | break19 | My penis went to venus \ To find a vagina \ But instead it found shyness \ Inside of your Uranus. |
| 15:24.34 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: No |
| 15:24.41 | break19 | meh, remove "your" |
| 15:24.52 | RaydenUni | you have to activate all the statues |
| 15:24.59 | sylvanaar_work | GETGLOBAL _G doesn't do a table lookup, it already knows what _G is |
| 15:25.05 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: And kill the boss, right |
| 15:25.15 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 15:25.30 | SunTsu | you can do that without killing the mobs all around the water |
| 15:25.38 | Tifi | kk |
| 15:25.51 | break19 | is there a "ace-config-3.0 for dummies" wiki article? heh |
| 15:26.01 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 15:26.10 | RaydenUni | gotta see if i can find a couple other druids and then stealth this thing |
| 15:26.17 | Matrix110 | hmm is aguf(ace3branch) already released under some other name? |
| 15:26.47 | break19 | Matrix110: dont think so.. but you should try my branch if you feel froggy.. :) |
| 15:27.07 | Matrix110 | nah iam happy with the aguf branch :P |
| 15:27.08 | Elkano | Zhinjio, I have no idea why it would still do so :/ |
| 15:27.30 | break19 | mine's pretty much the same as the standard ace3, except I added LibMobHealth-4.0 support, and tightened up some code a bit. |
| 15:28.48 | break19 | my next project is adding a config screen to my EnvenomX, and add options to change font/colors, and which sink to use.. |
| 15:29.28 | break19 | but first, I need to read up on saved variables, and how to determine which variables get saved, and how to call em at my initialization function.. |
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| 15:33.05 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: If you can get 4 others that might be possible, but less party members could be hard |
| 15:33.13 | RaydenUni | i'm lvl 53 now |
| 15:33.53 | Zhinjio | Elkano: ok. |
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| 15:43.11 | RaydenUni | "That picture you are describing is of one of the heroes from Wacrcraft III - Illidan Stormrage. Or another Demon-hunter, a night-elf only hero-class from that game. They are only back-story for the World of Warcraft. " |
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| 15:43.19 | RaydenUni | "Perhaps if or when Blizzard opens up the dark portal and allows folks to go to Draenor (the orc homeworld where Illidan was banished when he failed to defeat Arthas at the end of Warcraft III), these will come into play and be available. Until such time, it is just a pretty picture." |
| 15:43.20 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 15:43.38 | RaydenUni | these being his twin blades |
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| 15:47.46 | Wobin | break19: have a look at Xparky for a simple config |
| 15:47.52 | break19 | Wobin: kk tnx |
| 15:48.02 | Wobin | well kinda simple, but it covers a few things |
| 15:49.00 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: They look impressive, saw a human rogue with the off-hand one yesterday. Was as high as he was |
| 15:49.21 | RaydenUni | i've seen pics of them |
| 15:49.30 | RaydenUni | that comment off thottbot is hilarious though |
| 15:49.41 | RaydenUni | "maybe someday, if we go to draenor and fight illidan the weapons will show up" |
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| 15:49.53 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Yeah ;) |
| 15:49.53 | RaydenUni | pretty good prediction |
| 15:49.56 | Wobin | it clearly needs a gnome |
| 15:50.09 | RaydenUni | i want to see a tauren wielding them |
| 15:50.16 | Wobin | because insanely large weapons on gnomes is always amusing |
| 15:50.24 | Wobin | like the giant shield |
| 15:50.31 | SunTsu | Wobin: "Can be only wielded by 3 gnomes that stack" |
| 15:50.38 | break19 | rofl |
| 15:50.39 | Wobin | "And I'll be the head!" |
| 15:50.58 | break19 | Wobin: nah. head's need brains.... *duck* |
| 15:51.17 | Wobin | I think the internet disproves that fact =P |
| 15:51.27 | RaydenUni | how does wowhead have no in game shots of them? |
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| 15:51.44 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 15:51.47 | RaydenUni | i was looking at the gm ones |
| 15:52.00 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 15:52.01 | SunTsu | my rogue is gnomish, but he is just level 58 right now, so chances are very high he will never ever wield one of those |
| 15:52.17 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r62240 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.cn.lua burningcrusade.tw.lua): |
| 15:52.17 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:52.17 | CIA-12 | - zhCN & zhTW locales update |
| 15:52.30 | SunTsu | Would look hilarious |
| 15:52.55 | Pkekyo| | tauren > all |
| 15:52.59 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32837#69917 |
| 15:53.20 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=699#screenshots |
| 15:53.21 | RaydenUni | so awesome |
| 15:53.28 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32375#69270 |
| 15:53.33 | Wobin | win |
| 15:53.35 | SunTsu | "Watch out, rogue abbroaching saw mill" "Where, cna't see him?" "I can#t either but I saw a war glaeve approaching1" |
| 15:53.44 | RaydenUni | lol Wobin |
| 15:53.59 | RaydenUni | i thought weapons scaled |
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| 15:54.32 | Pkekyo| | shields are not weapons :P |
| 15:54.42 | Pkekyo| | - unless you're a spartan ofc |
| 15:54.57 | Grum | that shield is the best thing ever on a gnome :D |
| 15:55.04 | Wobin | s'true |
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| 15:55.21 | Pkekyo| | sod gnomes...pesty little cabbage-smelling things |
| 15:56.25 | CIA-12 | 03vangual * r62241 10GotWood/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:56.25 | CIA-12 | GotWood: |
| 15:56.25 | CIA-12 | - now fully 2.4 compatible (totem api), works on live aswell |
| 15:56.25 | CIA-12 | - add rightclick on buttons to recall single totems |
| 15:56.30 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: The rogue is my only gnome, should be a pvp char after all. Chose a gnome because you can hardly see then when unstealthed.. ;) |
| 15:56.45 | SunTsu | "them", that is |
| 15:57.06 | Vangual | \o/ first wowace commit |
| 15:57.24 | SunTsu | Vangual: /cheer |
| 15:57.38 | Wobin | and they can hide in shrubbery |
| 15:58.00 | Wobin | and they make the most adorable squeaking noise when killed |
| 15:58.01 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: I fucking hate that....I go to scratch my leg, then I realize there was a little piece of shit gnome stabbing me, not just an itch |
| 15:58.09 | Wobin | it's one of the main reaasons we bring gnomes on raids |
| 15:58.17 | break19 | BRING ME A SHRUBBERY |
| 15:58.25 | Wobin | We try to kill at least one gnome per pull |
| 15:58.33 | RaydenUni | hey i'd bring a gnome to a raid if it meant i got to see ti die |
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| 15:58.43 | Pkekyo| | same |
| 15:58.52 | Pkekyo| | preferably, I would like to kill it myself though |
| 15:59.02 | Wobin | sacrificial gnome |
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| 15:59.11 | SunTsu | I hate female gnomes for their laughter - and some of them laugh all the time |
| 15:59.14 | Grum | sacrificing gnomes is a delicate process |
| 15:59.17 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34029#comments "The real benefit of this trinket, though, is that it allows you to experience 3 gnome deaths every 16 minutes regardless of faction. This averages out to one gnome death every 5 minutes and 20 seconds. Not too shabby! Great for morale." |
| 15:59.18 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 15:59.19 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: that would be the BEST TRINKTE EVER |
| 15:59.30 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo| see link |
| 15:59.40 | Grum | its the trinket from Hexlord in ZA :) |
| 15:59.55 | Pkekyo| | HOT FUCKING SHIT |
| 15:59.58 | Pkekyo| | I'm going to ZA |
| 16:01.29 | Grum | we have 2-3 in the guild, its funsies :P |
| 16:01.33 | SunTsu | The idea having a party of mooniks all equipped with this item is hilarious |
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| 16:01.42 | FinalX | i remember the days when we had a gnome warrior tanking the molten giants in mc |
| 16:01.44 | Grum | 9 gnomes attacking illidan! |
| 16:01.45 | SunTsu | moonkins, even |
| 16:01.48 | FinalX | that was funny as hell :P |
| 16:01.55 | Pkekyo| | this is fucking ridiculous, I've got a grand total of ~350 addons and libs |
| 16:02.20 | Pkekyo| | time to get rid of something |
| 16:02.34 | thul | YES |
| 16:02.35 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r62242 10Chinchilla/locale/zhCN.lua: Chinchilla: zhCN locale update |
| 16:02.37 | thul | KILL IT Pkekyo| |
| 16:02.38 | Pkekyo| | wow won't even load anymore :p |
| 16:02.40 | Pkekyo| | hai thul |
| 16:02.59 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Here it sums up to 497 *g* |
| 16:03.11 | FinalX | i have like 5 :o |
| 16:03.18 | RaydenUni | what good is the idol that increases claw dmg by 30? |
| 16:03.30 | SunTsu | FinalX: OK, that's it, leave the channel ;) |
| 16:03.45 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27990 |
| 16:03.53 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Not much, because you won't claw that much, would you? |
| 16:03.55 | FinalX | RaydenUni: pretty much none if you're feral, but a lot if youre not and trying to do some feral dps? |
| 16:04.03 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 16:04.06 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 16:04.10 | RaydenUni | yeah cause even with +30 mangle is still better |
| 16:04.23 | FinalX | y |
| 16:04.30 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.31 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Right |
| 16:04.31 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:04.38 | Wobin | I like the last comment |
| 16:04.42 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 16:04.44 | FinalX | and the green idol of the wild is much better for that, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28064 |
| 16:04.55 | RaydenUni | yeah |
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| 16:04.58 | RaydenUni | 5 more levels |
| 16:04.59 | RaydenUni | or so |
| 16:05.09 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: the gatherhud stuff...what cartographer plugins should I get rid of, and what should I get to replace them? |
| 16:05.30 | Xinhuan | gatherhud doesn't replace anything, except for gatherer's hud |
| 16:06.08 | Pkekyo| | getting gatherer as well keke |
| 16:06.22 | FinalX | hm that comment is indeed interesting, might apply to librams too. |
| 16:06.32 | Pkekyo| | 'cause you -did- say it's more lightweight, no? :P |
| 16:06.44 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: GatherMate |
| 16:06.46 | thul | hai Pkekyo| |
| 16:06.49 | thul | did you see my old cute camera? |
| 16:07.30 | Pkekyo| | not that I know, no |
| 16:07.38 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 16:07.43 | RaydenUni | 64 holy pally is offering to sell runs |
| 16:08.03 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: so...exactly what do I download? :> gathermate, gatherer, gathermate data, gatherer routes?, gatherhud? |
| 16:08.04 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/256460818_nNwNP-L.jpg <- Pkekyo| |
| 16:08.05 | thul | sexy :-D |
| 16:08.08 | RaydenUni | does anything do less dps than a holy paly? |
| 16:08.15 | FinalX | xD |
| 16:08.15 | Pkekyo| | oooh, hawtness |
| 16:08.19 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: no |
| 16:08.24 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/256460818_nNwNP-O.jpg <- Pkekyo| large :-P |
| 16:08.27 | RaydenUni | yeah, good question. what class/spec does the least dps |
| 16:08.40 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: GatherMate and GatherHUD if you like a HUD |
| 16:08.43 | FinalX | holy priest > holy pally anyhow |
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| 16:08.49 | FinalX | when it comes to dps ;P |
| 16:08.52 | Pkekyo| | wtf does MetroGnome do? |
| 16:08.53 | RaydenUni | yeah you still have swp |
| 16:08.55 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Then you take routes for making routes |
| 16:08.56 | RaydenUni | some shadow stuff |
| 16:09.06 | FinalX | yeah but even with just smite and holy fire lol |
| 16:09.17 | FinalX | holy nova.. |
| 16:09.18 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: would cart_routes be sufficient? this is confusing >.< |
| 16:09.27 | RaydenUni | yeah holy nova would rock for low level instances i bet |
| 16:09.49 | FinalX | I boost people through SM Cath & Armory together in under 15 mins. |
| 16:09.51 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: cart_routes would be sufficient if you used the cartographer gathering modules. |
| 16:09.53 | RaydenUni | hmm maybe not good for low level runs as it does no threat |
| 16:09.54 | FinalX | On my prot pally.. |
| 16:10.03 | FinalX | Just pull all mobs to one spot and consecrate ;P |
| 16:10.06 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: routes > cart_routes |
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| 16:10.33 | RaydenUni | yeah prot pallies dish out the aoe |
| 16:10.57 | Pkekyo| | I'm allready using cart_routes, I want gatherhud! |
| 16:11.08 | RaydenUni | routes is stable enough to use now? |
| 16:11.31 | Pkekyo| | it've been for ages? |
| 16:11.41 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: routes can create routes on base of cartographer, Gatherer and GatherMate data |
| 16:11.52 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Hadn't have a single problem |
| 16:11.55 | Pkekyo| | sod it, I'll just stick with cartographer and it's plugins |
| 16:12.01 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 16:12.08 | RaydenUni | routes is only for gathering professions? |
| 16:12.22 | Pkekyo| | mining/herbalism |
| 16:12.27 | Pkekyo| | dinner - off |
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| 16:12.41 | RaydenUni | might have to get it once i'm motivated to level my mining all the way up |
| 16:12.49 | thul | sexy right Pkekyo| ? :-P |
| 16:12.59 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Couldn't get it to work with quest items, but cart_routes didn't so that for me either |
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| 16:15.21 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: I started mining lately after switching one alt to jewel crafting and the other one to engineering. Was quite fun doing that with GatherMate and Routes. And skilled my herbalism, too |
| 16:15.53 | Xinhuan | gathermate replaces _professions and _<profs> |
| 16:15.58 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62243 10Chinchilla/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:15.58 | CIA-12 | Chinchilla_Appearance - instead of having separate round and square textures, use a single texture with round on the left and square on the right. |
| 16:15.58 | CIA-12 | Also use tgas instead of blps. |
| 16:15.58 | CIA-12 | And adding the Tubular and Flat borders from Nandini |
| 16:15.59 | Xinhuan | routes replaces _routes |
| 16:16.11 | RaydenUni | i got tired of enchanting/tailoring so i dropped enchanting and picked up mining |
| 16:16.16 | RaydenUni | i'm somewhere in the low 300's i think |
| 16:16.31 | Arcaia | anyone have the PTR files hosted? |
| 16:17.15 | Arcaia | I need -> -0.4.0.7923-enUS-patch.exe and onward |
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| 16:19.07 | Cheads | Xinhuan how's handynotes? getting ready for trunk ? =) |
| 16:19.29 | Xinhuan | soonish |
| 16:20.38 | Xinhuan | i'm adding kind of a neat line drawing thing for the flightmaster plugin |
| 16:21.18 | Cheads | sounds nice |
| 16:22.00 | RaydenUni | Do offer me at least 100 gold to run you through the Stockades. The two gold you're putting forth does not make up for the time it's going to take me to run you through. <-- 2g isnt worth a run but 100g? |
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| 16:23.16 | Firelemming | good evening everybody |
| 16:23.35 | FinalX | lol @ 100g |
| 16:23.41 | Arcaia | WTB 0.4.0.7923-enUS-patch.exe ;P |
| 16:23.42 | Gnarfoz | ckknight_: can PitBull frames for party members be moved separately? |
| 16:23.50 | ckknight_ | no |
| 16:24.01 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r62244 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 16:24.03 | FinalX | I clear cath+armory in SM together in about 15 minutes and get 10g+ from just the money the guy behind me loots with loot on ffa. |
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| 16:24.16 | Gnarfoz | could one create separate frames for partyN with your new 'custom frame' thingy? |
| 16:24.50 | RaydenUni | AUGH |
| 16:24.56 | RaydenUni | that mobs scared the crap out of me |
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| 16:25.14 | RaydenUni | was stealthed up behind it and about to ravage when it whipped around and hissed at me |
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| 16:32.50 | Recluse | lol |
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| 16:34.15 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62245 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: add 2.4 compat for Illidari Council |
| 16:34.53 | break19 | meh.. i need some help using sink options..... i want to give the user the ability to select which sink, or "None" to let sink auto-choose |
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| 16:43.12 | break19 | ok.. I know a -few- of the sink args in the pour function.. sink:Pour("Message",R,G,B,arg5,arg6,arg7,sticky(or true)), but what args are 5 thru 7? |
| 16:45.14 | Gnarfoz | IncomingHealsLib is deprecated, right? |
| 16:45.42 | break19 | Gnarfoz: LibHealComm-3.0 is the new standard for most, now. |
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| 16:47.43 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r62246 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:47.43 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:47.43 | CIA-12 | - zhCN locale update |
| 16:47.52 | break19 | *knocks on a table* hello? any sinklib knowledgable people here?? sink:Pour("Message",R,G,B,arg5,arg6,arg7,sticky(or true)), what args are 5 thru 7? |
| 16:48.23 | keiss | break19: loggerhead uses it i think .. look there :) |
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| 16:49.06 | break19 | keiss: mmkay.. why couldnt vhaar just put a small comment in the lib about it's args? lol |
| 16:49.23 | nevcairiel | he probably did |
| 16:49.36 | vhaarr | look at the parrot function, it has all the args listed |
| 16:49.50 | break19 | vhaarr: hmm.. ok |
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| 16:50.14 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r62247 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 16:50.14 | CIA-12 | - zhCN locale update |
| 16:51.07 | Camma | does anyone know where I can find a copy of Tekkubs Classcoler chat name thing |
| 16:51.17 | Camma | it's not on his googlepage |
| 16:51.29 | break19 | local function parrot(addon, text, r, g, b, font, size, outline, sticky, loc, icon) - addon can be "parrot" "msbt" "none" "sct" ? |
| 16:51.38 | vhaarr | addon is an internal argument |
| 16:51.42 | vhaarr | the rest is what you supply |
| 16:51.55 | break19 | oh.. how do I force which sink to use? |
| 16:52.00 | vhaarr | you can't |
| 16:52.28 | vhaarr | well, you can |
| 16:52.33 | break19 | uhm.. i've seen several fubar plugins allow me to select which sink to display their stuff.... |
| 16:52.45 | vhaarr | right, the user gets the option |
| 16:52.47 | break19 | just cant seem to find the corresponding code for it |
| 16:52.52 | vhaarr | you shouldn't FORCE him to use one |
| 16:53.21 | break19 | vhaarr: I didnt mean ME to force, I meant HIM to force sink, rather than just letting the lib decide programattically |
| 16:53.46 | vhaarr | well there are two ways, either your addon is a fubar plugin in which case the options should be added automatically |
| 16:54.03 | vhaarr | or you take a look at the code for some other sink addons and just copy it |
| 16:54.05 | break19 | i am attempting to bring my envenomx code up to par, allowing customization etc... |
| 16:54.44 | break19 | the only sink addons I can think of are fubar plugins... heh.. is loggerhead a fubar? or standalone? |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r62248 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: partial 2.4 compat for illidan, will finish later. |
| 16:55.26 | Fisker- | lazy [Ammo] |
| 16:55.41 | vhaarr | self.consoleOptions.args.output = AceLibrary("Sink-1.0"):GetAceOptionsDataTable(self).output |
| 16:55.42 | vhaarr | for example |
| 16:56.18 | break19 | and to set it, would be .......:SetAce.... ? |
| 16:56.41 | vhaarr | you don't set it |
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| 16:56.48 | vhaarr | break19: are you TRYING to make this complicated? |
| 16:56.49 | break19 | meh |
| 16:57.01 | vhaarr | NOONE has ever asked me about this before, because it's so fucking easy |
| 16:57.15 | break19 | vhaarr: sorry.. I'm stupid.. I get it. :/ |
| 16:57.18 | Zhinjio | does ... "for index = 1, limit, step do" automatically declare "index" locally or do you have to do that by hand ahead of time? |
| 16:58.58 | Estil | I'm so glad I never rolled a shaman |
| 16:59.33 | wiley | Could anyone help me with ElkBuffBar, I'm using that addon for specific buffs only, I would like to keep Blizzard UI buff Frame while using ElkBuffBar, there is ann option to do so, but whenever I logout then login, Blizzard UI is hidden |
| 16:59.46 | break19 | maybe I'll just make it easier on myself, and give my addon a fubar config, instead of trying to use aceconfig3 |
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| 17:00.25 | Fin | Zhinjio: it declares index locally I believe |
| 17:00.33 | Fin | http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/for |
| 17:00.50 | Fin | the example given in the "equivalent to the code..." bit localises the temporary var |
| 17:01.16 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I'm unable to log into wow - stuck on the login screen :< |
| 17:01.26 | Zhinjio | ah yes, it does look like it is. Thank you. |
| 17:01.35 | wiley | no one ? :> |
| 17:01.46 | Zhinjio | wiley: I don't use EBB the way you do, so I don't know. |
| 17:01.54 | wiley | :) |
| 17:01.55 | wiley | ok |
| 17:01.56 | Zhinjio | I don't use Blizz's frames at all. |
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| 17:03.39 | wiley | while I'm here, I was wondering if there is an ace addon that move BG objectives frame ( nbr's of flag turned & such ) |
| 17:04.02 | wiley | I used MoveAnything for that ages ago :p |
| 17:05.38 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r62249 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: |
| 17:05.38 | CIA-12 | CraftyGnome: |
| 17:05.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.55 | Fin | simpleminimap |
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| 17:06.26 | Seerah | wiley: some pvp mods will do that for you. Like SSPVP2 or Capping |
| 17:06.34 | Recluse | wiley: also - Capping |
| 17:06.47 | Recluse | bah, beat me to it Seerah XD |
| 17:06.49 | Seerah | Does smm move it, Fin? He's talking about the one in the top-middle of the screen |
| 17:06.52 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.04 | Fin | however you really don't deserve a proper answer for defining "Ace" |
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| 17:07.07 | wiley | looking for something light that does the moving thing, don't need something with pvp options I won't use :) |
| 17:07.08 | Fin | Seerah: I... think... it does, yes |
| 17:07.28 | Fin | Seerah: however I am a little unsure - I thought about it before answering and figured that it was pretty likely to |
| 17:07.37 | Fin | (also that someone would correct me if it didn't :)) |
| 17:07.39 | Seerah | I know it moves the Capture timer |
| 17:07.47 | Seerah | but I don't currently use smm |
| 17:07.48 | Fin | yeah, it has the whole Movers module |
| 17:07.54 | wiley | I'll give it a try :) |
| 17:07.55 | Fin | that's why I thought it likely to move that too |
| 17:08.07 | Seerah | the capture timer is below the minimap and is part of the minimap cluster |
| 17:08.12 | Fin | Seerah: what do you use for minimappery? |
| 17:08.19 | [SW]Dodge | i want to make my frametemplates in xml to lua, but i have a <Layer> tag and i dont know how i can represent that in lua. can someone help me? ^_^ |
| 17:08.24 | Seerah | the other frame is not. So I don't remember if it was added or not from requests |
| 17:08.38 | Seerah | Fin: I use RicoMiniMap, but am currently testing Chinchilla |
| 17:08.39 | Fin | ah. yeah, I can see it would go either way. |
| 17:08.51 | Recluse | FluidFrames might do the trick for you as well |
| 17:09.07 | Fin | Seerah: may I ask what features you (require|desire|look for)? |
| 17:09.18 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: you need to use SetDrawLayer i think |
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| 17:10.34 | Seerah | Fin: square shape, border options (or at least no border - I can always use eePanels), hide frames/buttons, coords, ability to relocate coords and zone text, adjust strata.......... I think that's it... :) And, of course, movable. :P |
| 17:11.08 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: yea, thanks thats it! :)) |
| 17:11.53 | Fin | Seerah: how close does RicoMinimap come to satisfying that list? And, got any thoughts on Chinchilla? :) |
| 17:11.58 | Fin | apologies for the interrogation |
| 17:12.20 | Seerah | What's with the 20 questions?!? JEEZ!!! |
| 17:12.22 | Fin | it's just, the minimap is one of those things that I have never quite found what I'm looking for, at least, not bug-free |
| 17:12.26 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:12.30 | Fin | that, tooltips, and quest logs |
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| 17:12.34 | Seerah | RMM works quite nicely :) |
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| 17:14.22 | Atari_ | Hey, I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about simpleminimap |
| 17:14.24 | Atari_ | r |
| 17:14.44 | Atari_ | When I use it and move my minimap it always appears in the default position when I restart WoW |
| 17:15.04 | Fin | have you also got an addon installed that moves frames generally? |
| 17:15.10 | Seerah | Do you have any other minimap mods installed? Even the bongos mm module? |
| 17:15.13 | Seerah | or that |
| 17:15.17 | Atari_ | I have bongos2 |
| 17:15.38 | wiley | I'm using SimpleMinimap, while movers enabled, I can't move BG objectives ( like Alterac renforcements thing ) |
| 17:15.42 | Atari_ | _mapbar |
| 17:15.42 | wiley | :> |
| 17:16.13 | Fin | Seerah: can you move BG objectives in RMM? although I seem to remember you're not a great PvPer, so maybe you wouldn't know |
| 17:16.25 | Atari_ | yep, bongos must be the problem ^^ |
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| 17:16.40 | Atari_ | is it usually ok to delete modules you don't need? it wont make things go wrong? |
| 17:16.42 | Seerah | Fin: Do you mean the frame we were talking about earlier? in the top-middle? |
| 17:16.57 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r62250 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: GridStatusHots: fixed typo (rgtime/rjtime/lbtime instead of retime) |
| 17:17.02 | Seerah | Atari_: you just just be able to disable them at the addons screen, but yes. |
| 17:17.15 | Seerah | Fin: no, but I use SSPVP2 or Capping for that |
| 17:17.18 | wiley | Fin, are you sure SimpleMinimap move that kind of frames ? :p |
| 17:17.33 | Seerah | wiley: did you miss our above debate? :) |
| 17:17.56 | Fin | Seerah: heh, no, actually I meant the ones underneath it that are part of the same cluster |
| 17:18.00 | Fin | [18:09:20] <Fin> Seerah: however I am a little unsure - I thought about it before answering and figured that it was pretty likely to |
| 17:18.03 | Fin | "no" :) |
| 17:18.07 | CIA-12 | 03vangual * r62251 10GotWood/views/ (CandyBarView.lua CircleView.lua): |
| 17:18.08 | CIA-12 | GotWood: |
| 17:18.08 | CIA-12 | - add rightclick-removal to the circle and candybar view aswell |
| 17:18.17 | wiley | oh ^^ |
| 17:18.32 | Fin | I would just install MoveIT, anyway |
| 17:18.38 | Seerah | Fin: oh - the capture timers. Um... No. Ricowan did add a module to move the paperdoll though |
| 17:18.42 | Fin | MoveIT is the best mover-of-frames that I know of |
| 17:19.01 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r62252 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: ElkBuffBars: actually use settings for buff/tench hiding |
| 17:19.17 | Fin | Seerah: so, if I have my minimap at the bottom of the screen the capture timers will be invisible? I guess I can use something else to move them, although I seem to remember they were particularly difficult to move |
| 17:19.42 | Seerah | perhaps that's why rico didn't put in a mover for them :P |
| 17:19.44 | Fin | and, hey, if he added that module, maybe it would be easy enough to make another module for the capture timers and submit a patch |
| 17:19.49 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 17:19.57 | Fin | ... then again, maybe not! |
| 17:20.14 | wiley | too bad there's nothing dedicated to that frame :p |
| 17:20.21 | Fin | I didn't know that there even WERE capture timers for months after TBC came out |
| 17:20.35 | Fin | MoveIT will do it for you, wiley |
| 17:20.55 | Atari_ | is ag_Unitframes probably the best addon for nice simple unitframes? |
| 17:21.09 | Fin | if your emphasis is on simple, probably |
| 17:21.13 | Fin | although maybe Bongos2 |
| 17:21.19 | Atari_ | bongos does unitframes? |
| 17:21.24 | Fin | no |
| 17:21.25 | wiley | Yup, just it's an adodn that does all movers, not that light, but still I'll give it a try ;) |
| 17:21.32 | Fin | no, sorry, I'm talking complete rubbish. banana! |
| 17:21.51 | Fin | why on earth... |
| 17:21.56 | Atari_ | I wonder if there's any way of showing the pet of the enemy with ag |
| 17:22.22 | Fin | I didn't realise there was ever a way, now you come to mention it |
| 17:22.37 | Fin | with any addon |
| 17:22.40 | Atari_ | can't remember if normal ui shows it |
| 17:23.05 | Atari_ | you can see the pets of your party members |
| 17:23.16 | Fin | yes |
| 17:23.20 | Fin | and your own pet! |
| 17:23.27 | Fin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665565217&sid=1 is just so awesome |
| 17:23.43 | Atari_ | grr, can't for the life of me work out how to lock the unitbars again -_- |
| 17:24.01 | Fin | probably in the standard Interface options |
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| 17:25.11 | Seerah | Fin: banana! |
| 17:25.38 | Seerah | lock ag_UF frames in the agUF options. There may be a click-combo for the fubar entry as well |
| 17:26.11 | Atari_ | I need to make a list of all the chat command for my addons, they're impossible to remember :( |
| 17:26.19 | Atari_ | hate having those messy buttons around my minimap |
| 17:27.35 | Seerah | do you use fubar? |
| 17:27.45 | Seerah | or any rock mod for that matter |
| 17:28.08 | Fin | there's an awesome minimap button addon that puts them all in a frame |
| 17:28.12 | Seerah | or niagara or dewdrop.... There are so many ways to access options without having a ton of buttons around your map |
| 17:28.16 | Seerah | that too |
| 17:28.19 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r62253 10HotCandy/Anchor.lua: HotCandy: fix test button on the anchor |
| 17:28.23 | Fin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665565217&sid=1 |
| 17:28.28 | Fin | oops, wrong URL |
| 17:28.31 | Fin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665565217&sid=1 |
| 17:28.34 | Fin | wait! |
| 17:28.44 | Fin | the URL in my address bar is actually not the URL of the page I'm looking at |
| 17:28.51 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7929-MinimapButtonFrame.html |
| 17:28.54 | Fin | there |
| 17:28.56 | Xinhuan | ~fail Fin |
| 17:28.57 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 17:29.15 | Fin | hello my name is Fin and I'll be your retard for the evening |
| 17:29.17 | Xinhuan | MinimapButtonFrame hasn't been updated to work with GatherMate yet |
| 17:29.49 | Fin | why does GatherMate have buttons that don't work as standard ones do? |
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| 17:30.37 | Xinhuan | because all these addons like MinimapButtonFrame and MinimapButtonBag, they all maintain a "whitelist" of framenames not to collect into their own frame |
| 17:30.52 | Fin | seriously |
| 17:30.54 | Fin | that's nuts |
| 17:31.01 | Xinhuan | its always been like that |
| 17:31.08 | Fin | then it's always been nuts |
| 17:31.08 | Xinhuan | otherwise, it will collect all our icons on the minimap |
| 17:31.14 | Xinhuan | there's no other solution |
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| 17:31.42 | Fin | I believe there is an element of nuttiness about this situation |
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| 17:32.50 | Seerah | Fin: banana! |
| 17:33.00 | Fin | Seerah: are you *quite* sure? |
| 17:33.10 | Seerah | Fin = bananas |
| 17:33.19 | Seerah | <3 |
| 17:33.24 | Fin | en guarde! |
| 17:34.09 | Fin | hippos are one of the most dangerous animals in the world, you know! |
| 17:34.13 | Fin | do not fuck with the hippo! |
| 17:34.30 | A2` | Hi all, I'm wondering where does my ace2 addon preference panel come from ? (i'd like to have it on another computer) |
| 17:34.33 | Fin | the hippo, it can be truly deadly |
| 17:34.41 | Daemona | [Ammo] > http://ace.pastey.net/82685 |
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| 17:35.13 | Seerah | A2: The addon preferences screen is not provided by any Ace mod or library |
| 17:35.25 | Vangual | hmm, any way to make tortoisesvn honor the "omit externals" option on subsequent update-s? |
| 17:35.32 | Fin | form of: power hippo! |
| 17:35.33 | Seerah | A2: it's LibRockConfig-1.0 (a rock library) |
| 17:35.49 | Seerah | hungry hungry hippo? |
| 17:36.01 | Fin | actually hmm |
| 17:36.02 | Fin | yes I am a bit |
| 17:36.35 | Xinhuan | so |
| 17:36.51 | Xinhuan | there is a flight path between blasted lands and searing gorge. However, if you try to fly between them |
| 17:37.00 | A2` | thx Seerah |
| 17:37.08 | Xinhuan | the game takes u thru searinggorge-redridge-duskwood-blastedlands |
| 17:37.09 | Ravagernl | omg |
| 17:37.18 | Ravagernl | I'm loving the new talent tags in dogtag |
| 17:37.36 | Xinhuan | not the best route! |
| 17:38.06 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: it's still doing that? :D thought that was fixed even pre-bc |
| 17:38.15 | Xinhuan | yeah >.< |
| 17:38.31 | kneeki | HP software is so frustrating |
| 17:38.44 | ulic | Vangual: there is an "Update to Revision" in the context menu that will allow you to get latest and omit externals. |
| 17:39.18 | Vangual | ulic: ah thanks! |
| 17:40.08 | ulic | Vangual: I just changed my context menu to have that on the root, and got rid of the default one. Of course you still have to remember to check the checkbox everytime. |
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| 17:52.33 | shieldb | hmm, any decent addons out there for tracking drum cooldowns within a group? |
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| 18:03.37 | xyu | Dunno shieldb, but i'd be interested in something like that too |
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| 18:04.17 | xyu | I'd also like to see WAU have a category of "New" addons. So i don't have to search the entire list to try out new things. |
| 18:04.22 | Pkekyo| | WTS shoes |
| 18:04.34 | shieldb | yeah we've got enough leatherworkers in our raids that we have 3-4 per group sometimes for drum rotations |
| 18:04.55 | xyu | yeah, we usually have 2-3 in the mage/SP group |
| 18:05.16 | xyu | not really enough for a rotation, but i'd like to achieve that someday |
| 18:05.28 | xyu | most mages won't drop a profession though because of 2.4 coming |
| 18:05.39 | shieldb | our melee group has 3-4 most times, and should be 4-5 now that I've gone LW as well |
| 18:05.40 | shieldb | yeah |
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| 18:08.15 | xyu | ugh i hate raiding pug kara's w/ pallies not using pally power. |
| 18:09.31 | CIA-12 | 03merl * r62254 10/branches/mHud/ (16 files in 7 dirs): mHud: Added a lot of stuff to the config table. Testing a module config system (XML files loaded by the config module). Added another default config with frames (for testing). Removed -Ace3- tag :P ++ |
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| 18:14.03 | Firelemming | i agree xyz on the new category -.- |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-12 | 03elsia 072.4 * r62255 10Recount/ (. GUI_Config.lua Recount.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 18:14.16 | CIA-12 | - Changed from Babble-Class-2.2 to LibBabble-Class-3.0. Thanks to rabbit for porting it to libstub. |
| 18:15.12 | Atari_ | my ui is starting to take shape ^^ |
| 18:15.37 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 18:15.51 | Matrix110 | looking at the BigWigs folder on files i wonder how big files is |
| 18:16.14 | CIA-12 | 03joshborke * r62256 10/branches/aUF_barFader/: removed aUF_barFader because it is in the core mod now |
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| 18:17.54 | Elsia | heya |
| 18:18.01 | Maldivia | 'ola |
| 18:18.32 | Elsia | mald: thanks for forwarding the elemental topic to the US forums |
| 18:19.50 | m4rku5 | hey Elsia is the bug with mana burn fixed ? |
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| 18:20.09 | Elsia | I got an issue with SVN->files.wowace.com for some reason LibBabble-Boss-3.0 isn't packaged, but if I delete it from my working folder and update it works fine, checked toc and embeds.xml and looks good, any ideas what can cause this? |
| 18:20.10 | Maldivia | Elsia: we had a discussion about it ealier, and Beladon made a suggestion post about introducing a UNIT_SPAWNED event, that would help link unit together, even if the current ownership mishmash stays the same |
| 18:20.28 | Elsia | markus: hmm what bug? |
| 18:20.48 | m4rku5 | that it only showed up as one hit |
| 18:20.52 | Stanzilla | http://files.wowace.com/LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.zip < ? |
| 18:21.11 | Elsia | markus: i'll try reproduce it, don't have a priest though, so a combat log parse /combatlog would help |
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| 18:21.24 | Elsia | stan: No i mean embedded with recount |
| 18:21.25 | m4rku5 | ive sent you my combatlog yesterday ;P |
| 18:21.45 | Stanzilla | Elsia: 2.4 branch or live version? |
| 18:21.51 | Elsia | stan: live |
| 18:21.58 | Elsia | markus: sec |
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| 18:24.03 | Elsia | markus: the parses you sent me: the first one is fine, just one successful mana burn and recount registered that. the second you sent me mind blast instead of mana burn so there is a problem comparing, can you try the current built and see if the problem persists? |
| 18:24.09 | CIA-12 | 03wolfsmeister * r62257 10BigBrother/ (4 files): |
| 18:24.09 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 18:24.09 | CIA-12 | - Added new food buffs (enlightened, electrified) |
| 18:24.09 | CIA-12 | - Corrections in deDE-localisation |
| 18:24.18 | Elsia | stan: http://files.wowace.com/Recount/Recount-r62192.zip |
| 18:24.22 | m4rku5 | Elsia, ill try again later |
| 18:24.27 | Elsia | markus: thanks |
| 18:25.11 | Elsia | mald: actually I think it's perfectly clean to just inherit flags between guardians, guardian of a guardian. |
| 18:25.27 | Elsia | the second guardian isn't outsider |
| 18:25.39 | Elsia | and the NPC doesn't control him any more than the player :D |
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| 18:25.56 | Maldivia | Elsia: well, a unit_spawned event would also mean everyone would know who the owner is, and not just the owner himself |
| 18:26.09 | Elsia | mald: yeah that'd be very cool actually |
| 18:26.32 | Elsia | it's similar to what I have requested: a OwnerFromGUID() call |
| 18:26.56 | Elsia | problem with spawn is actually if someone misses the event.. the problem is the old one then |
| 18:27.10 | Elsia | i.e. someone enters raid after pet is summoned |
| 18:28.30 | Stanzilla | Elsia: hmm weird.. |
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| 18:29.28 | FinalX | hm, 5 addons at work, 197 at home :P |
| 18:30.30 | Elsia | stan: very. I have triple-checked everything and can't find the reason. |
| 18:31.21 | NeoTron | ~seen vhaarr |
| 18:31.24 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace (1d 14h 20m 45s). Has said a total of 56 messages. Is idling for 1h 34m 23s, last said: 'NOONE has ever asked me about this before, because it's so fucking easy'. |
| 18:32.20 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r62258 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: Bugfix |
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| 18:32.55 | FinalX | meh, ratingbuster overrides equipcompare (compare item you're hovering over with what you have equipped), does anyone know if ratingbuster itself has an option like that? |
| 18:32.59 | FinalX | i couldnt find it >.< |
| 18:33.29 | CIA-12 | 03elsia * r62259 10Recount/: |
| 18:33.30 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 18:33.30 | CIA-12 | - Removed a white-space in svn properties in the hopes it fixes the LibBabble-Boss-3.0 issue on files.wowace.com |
| 18:33.47 | Elsia | stan: found that there was a space at the end of the Babble-Boss embed line in properties.. that might have been it |
| 18:33.51 | silentium | dunno what you mean by "override", but for me RatingBuster works perfectly together with tekKompare |
| 18:34.23 | CIA-12 | 03zariel * r62260 10AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua: |
| 18:34.23 | CIA-12 | AmmoGnome: |
| 18:34.23 | CIA-12 | - Urm, fixed |
| 18:34.34 | Firelemming | hold shift? |
| 18:35.08 | Pkekyo| | WTS SHOES DAMNIT! |
| 18:35.51 | silentium | I know shift works with the default UI, but I'm too lazy so I prefer tekKompare :) |
| 18:36.16 | Stanzilla | Elsia: lol ok^^ |
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| 18:44.06 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r62261 10NiHao/ (NiHao.lua NiHao.toc): |
| 18:44.06 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 18:44.06 | CIA-12 | - Added remaining session control options to FuBar menu. |
| 18:44.06 | CIA-12 | - Removed slash commands which are no longer necessary. |
| 18:46.10 | Firelemming | do i need to include bindings.xml in to the toc also? or will wow automaticly load it? |
| 18:46.26 | nevcairiel | dont need to include it |
| 18:46.31 | Firelemming | k, ty |
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| 18:49.38 | NeoTron | well that sucks. they are disabling kalecgos on the PTR before my guild has a real chance to try him |
| 18:50.02 | genetik | why are they disabling him? |
| 18:50.25 | NeoTron | so, I guess, later bosses can get more testing |
| 18:50.44 | estala | Probably because they made Brutallus unkillable yesterday |
| 18:51.27 | NeoTron | Sigh. "- Demonic Knowledge: It will now increase your spell damage by an amount equal to 4/8/12%, down from 5/10/15%. " |
| 18:51.58 | NeoTron | that better be combined with a "pet's now gain benefit from your spell hit, spell haste and spell crit stats" |
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| 18:52.59 | estala | NeoTron: Where did you see that Kalecgos is going to be disabled? |
| 18:54.02 | NeoTron | a tigole post someone quote on our forums |
| 18:54.14 | estala | weird I hit up wow blues and didn't see anything hrm |
| 18:54.21 | NeoTron | from Elitist Jerks forunm |
| 18:54.33 | estala | oh ok |
| 18:57.05 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r62262 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: fix typo |
| 18:59.27 | estala | Random question to throw out there: Has anyone encountered an issue in WoW where your mouse cursor will sometimes snap to the center of your screen. The effect of this being the cursor typically doesn't make it to the center of the screen since it seems to happen when pressing the left or right mouse button. It instead leaves the camera flipped around and is horribly disruptive |
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| 18:59.31 | estala | Any ideas? -_- |
| 19:00.13 | Dashkal | Actually, that does sound familiar... at least it would explain some things... |
| 19:00.17 | keiss | ok , whats the proper way of disableing the new 'color 2' and 'color 3' thing in GridHotsStatus ? set it to 1 doesnt do it |
| 19:00.27 | estala | lol Dash, you get that too? |
| 19:00.33 | estala | Where all the sudden you're facing the other way? :/ |
| 19:00.39 | Dashkal | Yeah, I never thought much of it before but it does happen |
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| 19:00.53 | Dashkal | Using a wireless logitech mouse |
| 19:01.03 | estala | I'm using a Logitech G5 |
| 19:01.08 | estala | It happened with my G518 too |
| 19:01.12 | estala | I'm inclined to think it's not hardware based |
| 19:01.19 | estala | at least, not my specific mouse |
| 19:01.23 | Dashkal | I'm using a pretty basic one, so unless it's logitech-wide, that's not it |
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| 19:02.32 | estala | This has persisted across multiple installs |
| 19:02.36 | estala | of my OS and WoW |
| 19:02.40 | estala | :/ |
| 19:03.02 | estala | which, from a logical standpoint, screams "HEY YOUR MOUSE IS BROKEN" |
| 19:03.11 | sag_ich_nicht | estala: what's happening |
| 19:03.22 | estala | (1:59:27 PM) estala: Random question to throw out there: Has anyone encountered an issue in WoW where your mouse cursor will sometimes snap to the center of your screen. The effect of this being the cursor typically doesn't make it to the center of the screen since it seems to happen when pressing the left or right mouse button. It instead leaves the camera flipped around and is horribly disruptive |
| 19:04.21 | estala | What OS are you using Dash |
| 19:04.33 | Dashkal | WinXP 64 |
| 19:04.38 | estala | Me too |
| 19:04.39 | sag_ich_nicht | estala disable hardware mouse |
| 19:04.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (or enable it :P) |
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| 19:05.12 | estala | Disabled it |
| 19:05.17 | estala | I hate software mouse though :'( |
| 19:05.25 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 19:05.46 | Firelemming | does bindings.xml get reloaded on reloadui? |
| 19:05.49 | Dashkal | what's the difference? I've never used it |
| 19:06.04 | estala | Software cursor gets slowed down and is bound to your FPS |
| 19:06.11 | Dashkal | oh god... I'll keep the bug :p |
| 19:06.51 | Dashkal | I always chalked it up to the optical sensor getting confused |
| 19:07.08 | estala | I did for a while but then I realized it was resetting to the perfect center of the screen |
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| 19:07.20 | estala | Which I suppose could still be a result of that, a fail safe of the drivers getting tons of corrupt information |
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| 19:07.26 | estala | but I don't think that's the cause |
| 19:07.36 | Dashkal | I'll have to pay more attention next time |
| 19:07.57 | estala | It becomes even more maddening once you realize what's actually going on |
| 19:07.58 | estala | ~_~ |
| 19:07.58 | purl | :/ |
| 19:08.15 | estala | For a while I thought it was my fault and I had some imperfection in my mousing technique |
| 19:08.20 | estala | but I scrapped that idea after a while |
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| 19:11.54 | Firelemming | sigh, does anybody know what is wrong when wow does not put a header above a binding option? |
| 19:12.09 | _NiC | After running the wowaceupdater, I got a new version of TinyTip, now my tips are at mouse-cursor, and I can't find a way to bring up the configuration for tinytip.. any tips? |
| 19:12.38 | NivFreak | cowtip ftw |
| 19:12.44 | _NiC | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.49 | Firelemming | first make sure it is actualy loaded |
| 19:12.50 | Killmore | :P |
| 19:13.15 | _NiC | fire, well, it's enabled at least. /tinytip produces a "Type /help for blabla"-error though. |
| 19:13.26 | estala | Do you have tinytip options? :p |
| 19:13.35 | _NiC | yes |
| 19:14.05 | _NiC | TinyTip, TinyTipExtras and TinyTipOptions |
| 19:14.12 | Firelemming | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.13 | Zicon | Hai, _nic. |
| 19:14.19 | Firelemming | found this on the wiki site |
| 19:14.20 | _NiC | and TipLib, if that's related |
| 19:14.34 | _NiC | firelemming, neither of them work :( |
| 19:14.36 | _NiC | zicon, howdy |
| 19:15.04 | Firelemming | well, go back to the first thing i sayed, make sure it is actualy loaded :P |
| 19:15.20 | _NiC | firelemming, how would I do that besides checking that it's enabled? |
| 19:15.45 | NeoTron | zomg hot! talented ghost wolf in 2.4 will now be instant cast |
| 19:15.48 | NeoTron | that's really cool |
| 19:15.57 | Firelemming | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.31 | _NiC | firelemming, yep, it's listed |
| 19:16.35 | _NiC | all three of them |
| 19:16.37 | Firelemming | enabled also? |
| 19:17.04 | _NiC | extras and options says [LoD] behind them, TinyTip itself has nothing except the version |
| 19:17.05 | Firelemming | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.19 | Firelemming | wierd |
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| 19:17.33 | estala | Maybe your shits just broken, remove the 3 and try reinstalling them? |
| 19:17.34 | _NiC | all three shows when I list enabled |
| 19:17.36 | Firelemming | i dont use it so cant realy help out more on that one |
| 19:17.53 | _NiC | hm, ok, I'll try fiddle with it a bit later. |
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| 19:18.00 | _NiC | thanks for your help. :) |
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| 19:18.17 | Firelemming | but it is very wierd that /tinytip doesnt work |
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| 19:18.25 | estala | when was this update you got |
| 19:18.26 | estala | just now? |
| 19:18.32 | _NiC | estala, yeah |
| 19:18.37 | estala | I have it installed but disabled, I'll turn it on rq and see if it works for me |
| 19:18.43 | _NiC | INFO Upgrading TinyTip from 61840 to 62155 |
| 19:18.50 | Nolook | TinyTip Author is redoing stuff. He said he would have options woeking by End of Week hopefully. |
| 19:18.52 | _NiC | had same problem with 61840 too |
| 19:19.04 | Firelemming | well there you go :) |
| 19:19.05 | Nolook | *working |
| 19:19.08 | _NiC | ah, well, that explains it :-) |
| 19:19.09 | estala | hehe |
| 19:19.12 | Firelemming | lawl |
| 19:19.34 | Nolook | You should be able to change settings with slash commands in the meantime. |
| 19:19.40 | keiss | yeah , tbh i didnt understoof why he replaced the still-working version in trunk by an un-finished version :) |
| 19:19.55 | Firelemming | anyway, does anybody know what is wrong when wow does not put a header above a binding option? |
| 19:20.10 | _NiC | from what I've heard, ace-devs don't care much about branches. ;P |
| 19:20.11 | Firelemming | trying to make a binding option for my addon |
| 19:20.26 | Nolook | I think it had to do with the LibBabble-something or other changes, but that's just a guess. |
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| 19:20.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ololololol |
| 19:20.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiar1 |
| 19:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | show up |
| 19:21.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/download/47040/ i lol'd! |
| 19:21.31 | Killmore | sag_ich_nicht: yep KTM for 2.4 :P |
| 19:21.52 | cncfanatics | is that even surprising ? |
| 19:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 19:22.06 | sag_ich_nicht | but i still lol'd |
| 19:22.16 | estala | I must be missing the joke :P |
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| 19:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | estala read the code :P |
| 19:22.56 | dafire | this is a basic ktm version.. there is also a basic threat version for 2.4 |
| 19:23.36 | sag_ich_nicht | dafire fails to catch the joke |
| 19:23.38 | sag_ich_nicht | please go away |
| 19:23.48 | dafire | get lost |
| 19:25.10 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht: you fail at being funny too |
| 19:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: i don't need to, the KTM code does it for me |
| 19:26.36 | Firelemming | shouldnt wow make a white header in the keybindings screen it self? or do i need to do that? |
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| 19:31.26 | Firelemming | sigh, blizzard hates me probly |
| 19:32.39 | NeoTron | I do wonder how many ppl actually uses ktm these days |
| 19:33.07 | Zhinjio | <-- does not. |
| 19:33.32 | NeoTron | oh right I forgot - you need to set a master target in KTM. /lols |
| 19:33.43 | Bruners | will the first general pack before naj'entus add if not killed ? |
| 19:34.05 | NeoTron | WTF. who has screenshots of addon error message handling on their addon page? |
| 19:35.49 | NeoTron | wow |
| 19:35.58 | NeoTron | "Kenco please do NOT make this addon multi target like Omen. We tried Omen while awaiting the Ktm update of 20.5b and a lot of our raiders complained of low FPS. Went back to KTM and FPS issues went away. For me personally it was a 10fps hit using Omen vs KTM. I worry that if you make it multi mob trackable KTM will have the same problem. As it currently is KTM is about the best addon for WoW imo. " |
| 19:36.10 | NeoTron | that's ironic considering how the main issue with KTM is its CPU use.. |
| 19:36.42 | Firelemming | im getting tired of this, something so simpel like every addon does, and i cant get it to show probly |
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| 19:41.06 | cncfanatics | how can some calculations make the game go down 10 FPS ? |
| 19:41.32 | kebinusan | omen crashed my raid once |
| 19:41.33 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: it's obviously bullshit but alas |
| 19:41.41 | kebinusan | like everyone running it locked up |
| 19:41.42 | kebinusan | hehe |
| 19:41.46 | NeoTron | I guess KTM still has its fanatic followers |
| 19:41.52 | Bruners | ktm have fucked up our raid loads of times |
| 19:42.09 | sag_ich_nicht | KTM hooks everything |
| 19:42.12 | Dashkal | That reminds me... is there a way to tell Threat-1.0 to ignore updates from KTM? |
| 19:42.14 | NeoTron | "zomg don't add multi target support" aka "zomg please remain useless in any fights with more than one mob" |
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| 19:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and iterates over it on every onUpdate |
| 19:42.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:42.35 | sag_ich_nicht | including your complete inventory |
| 19:42.43 | Bruners | omen can not be trusted on p2 on illidan |
| 19:42.52 | NeoTron | omen acts weird on illidan yes |
| 19:42.56 | NeoTron | that I agree with |
| 19:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | that was fixed iirc |
| 19:43.06 | Bruners | was not fixed last night atleast |
| 19:43.07 | NeoTron | I am not sure, maybe ppl haven't updated |
| 19:43.15 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 19:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | if not, stab Antiar1 |
| 19:43.22 | Bruners | and everyone updated before raid |
| 19:43.37 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 072.4 * r62263 10Prat/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Prat: Removed Babble-Class-2.2 |
| 19:43.41 | Bruners | that is 24 hours ago |
| 19:43.52 | NeoTron | Essence of Souls have similar issues |
| 19:44.17 | NeoTron | on Illidan we clearly see the tank generating -1000 TPS etc even if the actual threat level is correct (in phase 3-5 between threat resets) |
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| 19:45.35 | Matrix110 | Bruners they have the same name |
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| 19:45.43 | Bruners | orly |
| 19:45.51 | Dashkal | If anybody is interested, I just updated the page for Nexus with notes about moderation: http://wowace.com/wiki/Nexus#Moderation |
| 19:45.53 | Matrix110 | so its hard to see a diffrence between em :P |
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| 19:46.09 | Firelemming | fuck this, then no bindings for my addon |
| 19:46.40 | Bruners | something tells me that ktm would handle that better? |
| 19:46.56 | Zhinjio | no. |
| 19:47.04 | Bruners | with master target ? |
| 19:47.23 | NeoTron | KTM is entirely broken overall |
| 19:47.29 | NeoTron | does it even automatically reset threat ? |
| 19:47.32 | Zhinjio | until 2.4 combatlogs stuff comes out, that has different IDs for every mob you're fighting, none of them can really distinguish properly |
| 19:47.48 | Zhinjio | KTM is pretty broken, yes. Has been for a very long time. |
| 19:48.16 | Recluse | mob id's are only for mobs you are currently 'in combat' with? |
| 19:48.31 | Zhinjio | no, anything in range. |
| 19:48.35 | Zhinjio | once 2.4 is out. |
| 19:48.57 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: this is regarding threat wipes though |
| 19:49.01 | Dashkal | Hmm, is there a way to get the GUID of a mob that has a valid unitid? some sort of GetUnitGUID(unitid)? |
| 19:49.04 | NeoTron | those are manually defined in the addon |
| 19:49.18 | durcyn | eh, ktm could be a lot worse, thankfully kenco is trying to make it worse. |
| 19:49.22 | NeoTron | but come 2.4 we'll be able to properly track threat on each flame etc for sure |
| 19:49.28 | Recluse | curious - could mob id's provide a means to, say, auto-mark pulls? |
| 19:49.28 | NeoTron | durcyn: lol |
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| 19:50.16 | CIA-12 | 03firelemming * r62264 10RuinBossTactics/ (4 files): |
| 19:50.16 | CIA-12 | RuinBossTactics: |
| 19:50.16 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.47 | NeoTron | Recluse: I just got an idea for a hot addon - mark based on names on mouseover while holding a modifier key |
| 19:50.59 | Recluse | hehe |
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| 19:51.03 | NeoTron | so hold down alt and mouse over the mobs in the next pull and automatically mark them based on your preferences |
| 19:51.06 | NeoTron | that'd be really awesome |
| 19:51.49 | Sekkyo | Anyone here use TortoiseSVN? |
| 19:52.12 | Firelemming | i do sekkyo |
| 19:52.37 | Sekkyo | I just installed it, and can't for the life of me find the command line utility svn.exe, but its referenced in the documentation. |
| 19:52.45 | Sekkyo | Does it just not ship with Tortoise? |
| 19:53.38 | estala | Um I believe the command line is a diff install |
| 19:53.42 | Firelemming | i dont have it, why you need it? |
| 19:53.46 | estala | The standard install, afaik, integrates to the window shell |
| 19:53.58 | Sekkyo | Alright, I'll look for the other one |
| 19:55.22 | Sekkyo | Not finding it from Tortoise. |
| 19:55.39 | Matrix110 | svn needs a cleanup or atleast a "archive" |
| 19:55.54 | estala | Yeah |
| 19:55.54 | Matrix110 | so much useless/outdated addons |
| 19:55.54 | estala | Um |
| 19:56.02 | estala | where are you seeing instructions on using an svn.exe |
| 19:56.06 | Matrix110 | and with outdated i mean not working |
| 19:56.56 | Sekkyo | http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-cli-main.html |
| 19:59.54 | estala | if you look here |
| 19:59.54 | estala | http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-cli.html |
| 20:00.12 | estala | It's telling you what is the "Behind the scenes" actions going on are |
| 20:00.15 | break19 | ok, now this is weird.. I'm attempting to use AceDB-3.0 in my addon.. but I cant seem to figure out why it's not saving between sessions.. I have ## SavedVariables: EnvenomXDB, in my toc.. and local db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("EnvenomXDB", defaults) in my oninitialize.. |
| 20:00.20 | estala | in reference to the subversion command line |
| 20:00.27 | estala | which is a different program |
| 20:00.32 | Sekkyo | Alright, thanks estala. I need to find a download for svn.exe, then. |
| 20:00.39 | estala | http://subversion.tigris.org/ |
| 20:00.53 | estala | That should be what you're looking for |
| 20:01.53 | Sekkyo | Yeah, wish they just had a simple client download |
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| 20:06.11 | CIA-12 | 03kurax * r62265 10Historian/ (Historian.toc locales/Locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 20:06.11 | CIA-12 | Historian: |
| 20:06.11 | CIA-12 | - Added zhCN locale |
| 20:06.20 | break19 | my addon isnt saving variables like it should be.. who wants to help me figure this out? warning: i'm a bit dense sometimes, so it might take a while.. |
| 20:06.36 | break19 | .. ok.. scratch the "sometimes" :( |
| 20:06.59 | sylvanaar_work | what's to figure out |
| 20:07.20 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r62266 10Chinchilla/Coordinates/Coordinates.lua: Chinchilla_Coordinates - properly show again after not having coordinates. |
| 20:07.22 | break19 | sylvanaar: why it wont save them. :P |
| 20:07.43 | sylvanaar_work | did you list the saved variable name in the toc? |
| 20:07.54 | sylvanaar_work | did you store something in it? |
| 20:08.17 | sylvanaar_work | what did you store? |
| 20:08.23 | sylvanaar_work | when did you store it? |
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| 20:08.39 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
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| 20:09.20 | Gnarfoz | can Archimonde's fear really be cancelled by using Cloak of Shadows or has whoever wrote this guide I'm reading just never played a rogue since BC? :D |
| 20:09.29 | break19 | sylvanaar: i guess Im not storing it.. but then.. |
| 20:09.49 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i think the fear can only be cancelled by vanishing right before it |
| 20:09.50 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 20:10.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhh rather CloS right before it, if at all ^^ |
| 20:10.23 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: nah that actually works |
| 20:10.34 | Gnarfoz | anyway, while not in control of your character, you can't use CloS anyway. at least on all other CC spells |
| 20:10.57 | sylvanaar_work | break19 do you ever do SavedVariableName.SomeField = SomeValue? |
| 20:11.10 | break19 | im attempting to use AceDB3 to store stuff... font = "GameFontNormal", for instance.. and my db.profile.font properly returns the arg, but its not storing.. |
| 20:11.12 | nevcairiel | one rogue in my guild just confirmed, if you vanish right before fear hits, it doesnt affect you |
| 20:11.29 | nevcairiel | (while you still have the improved-vanish-stealth buff= |
| 20:11.30 | sylvanaar_work | break19 thats totally different |
| 20:11.34 | Bruners | is legionkiller better than vash bow for a bm hunter? |
| 20:12.39 | break19 | local db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("EnvenomXDB", defaults) - (inside a working aceconfig set) set = function(k,v) db.profile.text = v; end, - ? |
| 20:13.51 | sylvanaar_work | break19 perhaps an Ace3 person can help |
| 20:13.57 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r62267 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: tweak |
| 20:17.33 | break19 | ok.. I'm missing " DBObject:RegisterDefaults( [defaults] )" - seems to me thats the reason? right? |
| 20:17.42 | sylvanaar_work | prolly |
| 20:18.16 | nevcairiel | break19: if you supply the defaults as the second argument, you dont need that call |
| 20:19.12 | CIA-12 | 03sbu * r62268 10BigBrother/localization_enUS.lua: |
| 20:19.12 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 20:19.12 | CIA-12 | - fix "Electrified" (too many " characters) |
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| 20:20.59 | Yssaril | sylvanaar_work: why does WAU clear the output tab when you update? |
| 20:20.59 | Thorgard | Hey sylvanaar_work, is not being able to 'post' URLs in chat a known issue with Prat? Tried saying a URL in chat and it was never sent, nor can I see it in the chat log. |
| 20:21.08 | sylvanaar_work | Thorgard no |
| 20:21.10 | kebinusan | Thorgard: probably the in game spam filter thing |
| 20:21.21 | kebinusan | if you have it enabled it blocks links to mmo-champion or something silly |
| 20:21.22 | sylvanaar_work | Yssaril i dunno |
| 20:21.36 | kebinusan | amoung other places |
| 20:22.02 | Thorgard | kebinusan, oh really? :o |
| 20:22.25 | kebinusan | yeah I forget the option but I think its on interface options/advanced |
| 20:22.30 | kebinusan | try that |
| 20:22.30 | sylvanaar_work | Yssaril I guess that's how it was when it was orginally written. |
| 20:23.12 | sylvanaar_work | Thorgard say www.foo.com |
| 20:23.13 | Yssaril | sylvanaar_work: kk would be kinda cool where it wouldn't do it and kinda keept a log :) |
| 20:23.25 | sylvanaar_work | Yssaril i no longer maintain WAU |
| 20:23.36 | Yssaril | sylvanaar_work: ahh why not? |
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| 20:23.53 | Yssaril | WAU2 taking over? |
| 20:23.53 | sylvanaar_work | Yssaril sanity |
| 20:24.00 | Yssaril | rofl good enough |
| 20:25.42 | sylvanaar_work | in any event, there is a log i think still |
| 20:26.25 | sylvanaar_work | on teh view menu |
| 20:27.16 | sylvanaar_work | find it? |
| 20:28.09 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 072.4 * r62269 10Prat/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Prat: TOC 20400, -Ace2 PC FTW! |
| 20:28.22 | break19 | nevcairiel: ok, then how do I tell aceDB to save the vars? |
| 20:28.23 | Yssaril | sylvanaar_work: yep ty |
| 20:28.39 | sylvanaar_work | break19 ask nicely |
| 20:28.46 | break19 | lol |
| 20:28.47 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r62270 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: fix typo (evil!) |
| 20:28.49 | cladhaire | break19: is the value a default value? |
| 20:28.50 | cladhaire | if so |
| 20:28.52 | cladhaire | it won't be saved |
| 20:29.02 | cladhaire | ace3db only saves non-default values, as one might expect |
| 20:29.59 | Civrock | [2008/02/20 15:29:42-1045-x1]: BigBrother\localization_enUS.lua:61: ']' expected near '\' |
| 20:30.09 | break19 | cladhaire: I change the value tho.. it is changed for the current session only, and never saves |
| 20:30.38 | cladhaire | are you sure the variable is set as a savedvariable in the .toc? |
| 20:30.47 | cladhaire | have you examined the raw table, and the saved file to see whats there? |
| 20:31.39 | sylvanaar_work | is Avion still maintained? If not im going to steal the sounds from its media packs |
| 20:32.19 | break19 | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/82691 and I have "## SavedVariables: EnvenomXDB" in my toc |
| 20:32.50 | sylvanaar_work | did you exit and restart the game since you put that in there? |
| 20:32.57 | break19 | sylvanaar_work: ya |
| 20:33.19 | sylvanaar_work | is your WTF directory readonly |
| 20:33.24 | break19 | i've had it in there before I started actually using it, in anticipation of the day I decided to allow customization. |
| 20:33.32 | cladhaire | break19: and what does the SV actually save |
| 20:33.45 | break19 | sylvanaar_work: nope.. other addons can save fine.. |
| 20:33.48 | Pkekyo| | fucks fucking fuckedup fucking sake, the loading of wow (from character select --> ingame) ALWAYS stops at the same exact place every bloody time I try to log in - any idea what might cause this? |
| 20:33.53 | break19 | cladhaire: nothing at all. |
| 20:34.07 | cladhaire | break19: is the saved variable .. there? |
| 20:34.10 | cladhaire | the file |
| 20:34.20 | sylvanaar_work | Pkekyo| an addon which had _G in its saved vars |
| 20:34.33 | Yssaril | Pkekyo|: infinite loop from random addon? during startup? |
| 20:34.48 | Pkekyo| | I haven't gotten any new addons |
| 20:34.54 | break19 | cladhaire: ya... sec I'll pastey it |
| 20:35.01 | Xinhuan | break19, your savedvariable must be a global variable |
| 20:35.07 | Xinhuan | if its local to the file, wow can't save it |
| 20:35.12 | Pkekyo| | know any addons that might've caused this crap? |
| 20:35.12 | CIA-12 | 03apoco * r62271 10Nurfed_AutoBarHook/ (. Nurfed_AutoBarHook.lua Nurfed_AutoBarHook.toc): |
| 20:35.12 | CIA-12 | Nurfed_AutoBarHook: |
| 20:35.12 | CIA-12 | - Initial Commit |
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| 20:35.15 | Trefane_Work | Pkekyo - a corrupt file. Tried running the repair utility? |
| 20:35.25 | break19 | Xinhuan: Ohhhhhhh over-localing ftl... |
| 20:35.29 | Pkekyo| | Trefane_Work: no |
| 20:35.34 | sylvanaar_work | Xinhuan every SV is global |
| 20:35.45 | sylvanaar_work | they cant be made local |
| 20:36.35 | break19 | my sv file: http://ace.pastey.net/82693 |
| 20:37.35 | cladhaire | why is your arg the same as set? |
| 20:37.41 | cladhaire | out of curiosity |
| 20:37.45 | NeoTron | does anyone know of a small little ace3-addon with a gui config that's useful as an example? |
| 20:38.27 | Xinhuan | quite a lot NeoTron |
| 20:38.47 | Xinhuan | the gathermate accessory addons like gatherhud |
| 20:39.15 | break19 | cladhaire: hoping set would populate the textfield with whatever it's currently set at.. but it doesnt.. |
| 20:39.24 | Snago | NeoTron: When i wrote mine I looked at: Routes, GatherMate and the AceGUITest in the Ace3/tests folder |
| 20:39.32 | Xinhuan | and even ipopbar (mine) has a small example |
| 20:40.03 | break19 | meh.. coding + kids = long-ass time to write anything useful. brb |
| 20:40.10 | sylvanaar_work | how is that option even linked to your sv's |
| 20:40.28 | sylvanaar_work | how does it know how to get the value from them? |
| 20:41.41 | Xinhuan | who are you talking to sylvanaar? ;) |
| 20:41.54 | sylvanaar_work | myself |
| 20:41.54 | Fin | ye gods |
| 20:42.01 | Fin | sylvanaar_**WORK**?! |
| 20:42.55 | sylvanaar_work | i know - im so not into it today either |
| 20:43.15 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62272 10Chinchilla/Position/Position.lua: Chinchilla: Fix for frame stacking when minimap is moved to left side of the screen. |
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| 20:44.51 | Xinhuan | can see that |
| 20:44.56 | Xinhuan | you aren't normally that chatty :D |
| 20:44.58 | NeoTron | I'll see what I can get doen this weekened.. |
| 20:45.06 | Paradox_ | pitbull users: how do I re-enable weapon buffs to be shown as they seem to have disabled themselves |
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| 20:46.19 | break19 | Xinhuan: other addons i've looked at, appear to local their vars and they save... |
| 20:46.41 | Pkekyo| | Trefane_WorkPkekyo - a corrupt file. Tried running the repair utility? <---- just did, didn't help at all |
| 20:46.48 | Xinhuan | because they declare both a local and a global copy |
| 20:46.57 | Xinhuan | that point to the same global table |
| 20:47.23 | Xinhuan | i.e the table is in global namespace, but they create a local copy of it |
| 20:47.44 | NeoTron | Curious |
| 20:47.46 | Snago | *local reference to it |
| 20:47.55 | NeoTron | it seems like Blizzard has given Leiah a bit forum nerf bat |
| 20:47.59 | Pkekyo| | sylvanaar_workPkekyo| an addon which had _G in its saved vars <--- know what addon it might be? |
| 20:48.00 | Pkekyo| | YssarilPkekyo|: infinite loop from random addon? during startup? <--- which one, why, and who made it? I'm gonna kill them |
| 20:48.01 | NeoTron | none of his/her posts remain |
| 20:48.19 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, feel free to disable your addons half by half ;p |
| 20:48.30 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665394837&postId=47753286600&sid=1#66 <-- post 67 for example :P |
| 20:48.39 | sylvanaar_work | Pkekyo| look in your saved variables folder , any large SV's? |
| 20:49.33 | Pkekyo| | sylvanaar: auctioneer, cartographer...only ones above 1k kB |
| 20:49.45 | Pkekyo| | 1k kB...well that's a retarded thing to say |
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| 20:50.18 | break19 | 1k kb = 1m :) |
| 20:50.21 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: one thing I've done to fix that hang in the past |
| 20:50.26 | Pkekyo| | exactly my point, break19 |
| 20:50.27 | NivFreak | is disable all addons, login once |
| 20:50.33 | NivFreak | then reenable them |
| 20:50.36 | NivFreak | and log back in |
| 20:50.46 | Pkekyo| | do I have to do it with every char? |
| 20:50.57 | NivFreak | I've never had more than one char have the issue =/ |
| 20:50.59 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 20:51.05 | Xinhuan | it depends on what is causing the hang |
| 20:51.11 | Pkekyo| | bah |
| 20:51.19 | Xinhuan | bad code usually |
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| 20:51.32 | Pkekyo| | I have 320 libs and addons....binary search will be hell |
| 20:51.51 | sylvanaar_work | no it wont |
| 20:51.51 | Xinhuan | or loading of bad data in SV files that produces a hang |
| 20:52.08 | Xinhuan | well you can discount all the libs as working |
| 20:52.37 | sylvanaar_work | binary search is what...around 10 iterations |
| 20:52.49 | Xinhuan | or just do a wau mass update and pray it fixes itself ;p |
| 20:53.03 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: allready tried - it didn't |
| 20:53.18 | kebinusan | rename your wtf folder and see if its your SV, then just go through half at a time |
| 20:53.24 | Pkekyo| | disabling all addons and then trying to log in didn't work either |
| 20:53.31 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:53.33 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 20:53.40 | NivFreak | wow |
| 20:53.49 | NivFreak | reinstall? :P |
| 20:53.51 | NivFreak | quit wow? |
| 20:53.53 | sylvanaar_work | WoW |
| 20:53.59 | break19 | SV's are saved/read on a reloadUI? or only on logout/login? |
| 20:54.01 | Xinhuan | delete your cache folder |
| 20:54.03 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.15 | Xinhuan | break19, reload/logout |
| 20:54.22 | sylvanaar_work | - /throat |
| 20:54.28 | Yssaril | pkekyo run the repair.exe in your worldofwarcraft folder |
| 20:54.30 | break19 | xin, k |
| 20:54.30 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, delete your cache folder |
| 20:54.38 | Xinhuan | its likely you have a corrupted cache |
| 20:54.41 | sylvanaar_work | wait longer |
| 20:55.07 | Pkekyo| | deleting cache didn't work |
| 20:55.12 | Pkekyo| | Yssaril: allready did |
| 20:55.22 | Xinhuan | ok delete cache, rename interface, rename wtf |
| 20:55.26 | Pkekyo| | - it didn't work, if that wasn't self-explanatory |
| 20:55.28 | sylvanaar_work | wait longer |
| 20:55.31 | Xinhuan | so all 3 of those don't exist |
| 20:55.35 | break19 | gah, still not saving... |
| 20:55.42 | Pkekyo| | sylvanaar: you'd imagine 30 minutes would be sufficient to log in |
| 20:55.58 | Xinhuan | break19, your SV must be a global, just leave it |
| 20:56.08 | Xinhuan | there is no addon's SV that isn't a global |
| 20:56.11 | break19 | vxdb = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("EnvenomXDB", defaults) is not local.. |
| 20:57.16 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to save? |
| 20:57.21 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: that, on the other hand, did work |
| 20:57.30 | Xinhuan | by "not saving", what do you mean? |
| 20:58.00 | Xinhuan | values that are equal to your defaults[] don't get saved, acedb removes them |
| 20:58.12 | Xinhuan | only values that are not equal to default gets saved |
| 20:58.27 | break19 | xin: sec, finishing up feeding my baby.. |
| 20:58.36 | sylvanaar_work | remove the default value |
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| 20:58.45 | Zhinjio | remind me... the "desc" field in a config table is used for tooltip, yes? |
| 20:58.52 | Zhinjio | hey Xinhuan |
| 20:58.55 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:59.00 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
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| 20:59.35 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: it's something in the savedvars folder...howtofix? :> |
| 20:59.55 | Zhinjio | how many alts do you think a single person might have, maximum? |
| 21:00.00 | Xinhuan | umm, copy your SV files in your wtf back, half at a time? |
| 21:00.01 | Pkekyo| | 49 |
| 21:00.04 | Zhinjio | 3 accounts x 10 toons? |
| 21:00.14 | sylvanaar_work | infinity |
| 21:00.23 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjio: 49 alts per account |
| 21:00.25 | sylvanaar_work | num_serversx10 |
| 21:00.25 | Zhinjio | blah. I can't account for inifinity |
| 21:00.49 | Zhinjio | on a single server, across multiple accounts |
| 21:00.51 | sylvanaar_work | is it realy limited to 50? |
| 21:00.56 | Zhinjio | I mean, realistically |
| 21:00.58 | break19 | i have like 15 chars.. 1 account, multiple servers.. |
| 21:01.01 | Zhinjio | (multiple accounts) |
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| 21:01.47 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjio: depends on how much time and money the fucker has? |
| 21:01.52 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 21:01.53 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 21:01.55 | sylvanaar_work | num_serversxnum_accountsx10 ? |
| 21:02.03 | Zhinjio | I'll say ... 30. |
| 21:02.18 | Zhinjio | should be sufficient for my purposes. |
| 21:02.47 | Zhinjio | config table "order" starts at 1 or 0? |
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| 21:03.08 | Zhinjio | I'll just go with 1, safer. |
| 21:03.48 | CIA-12 | 03ellipsis * r62273 10Chinchilla/Appearance/Appearance.lua: Chinchilla: comment out some fixes that are no longer needed. |
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| 21:05.57 | break19 | meh... i hate coding with a kid in the house.. cant ever take time get stuff finished while my mind is on the subject.. by the time I get back, I've forgotten stuff :( |
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| 21:06.31 | aestil | paramount / dreamworks execs are retards. |
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| 21:06.38 | Zhinjio | according to a study about 10 years ago, the average programmer requires 23 minutes to "reacquire" his focus after having been interrupted. |
| 21:06.50 | Zhinjio | his/her |
| 21:07.35 | Zhinjio | at one of my jobs, we instituted "closed door" rules for all the programmers who weren't coding in team groups. |
| 21:07.37 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 21:08.53 | NivFreak | now days it's hard to find a company that gives programmers doors :P |
| 21:09.02 | sylvanaar_work | i have a door |
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| 21:09.15 | NivFreak | only our most senior folks have offices, and of course managers |
| 21:09.37 | NeoTron | cubes = spawn of evil |
| 21:09.45 | NeoTron | office, without windows, with closed door => heaven |
| 21:09.54 | cncfanatics | a window is nice too tbh |
| 21:09.58 | NivFreak | I live in an office with a window, that's interior |
| 21:09.59 | Yssaril | Zhinjio: order starts at -1 :P but -1 is considered to be always last |
| 21:10.01 | NivFreak | it's amusing |
| 21:10.04 | cncfanatics | I like staring at the yonder when thinking |
| 21:10.12 | NeoTron | me too |
| 21:10.19 | NeoTron | the blackness is eternal |
| 21:10.22 | NeoTron | so it works well |
| 21:10.41 | NeoTron | recently was moved from a nice dark office to a fucking flourescent lighting area cube |
| 21:10.56 | pastamancer | natural light is awesome |
| 21:10.58 | Yssaril | flourescent lighting sucks |
| 21:10.59 | sylvanaar_work | im so distracted - im going to go get my copy of dynasty warriors 6 I think |
| 21:11.14 | aestil | ckknight: chincilla needs level AND strata adjustments |
| 21:11.16 | Zhinjio | thanks Yssaril. |
| 21:11.21 | NivFreak | I moved from an exterior cube with a window overlooking the sound to my office |
| 21:11.25 | NivFreak | it was a downgrade in my mind |
| 21:11.31 | ckknight | aestil: currently it has Strata, right? |
| 21:11.36 | aestil | yes. |
| 21:11.40 | ckknight | aestil: make a jira ticket for Level, I'll do it tonight |
| 21:11.42 | aestil | for my art, and hacked panels shit. |
| 21:11.46 | Zhinjio | I moved from my cube farm to my basement *grin* |
| 21:11.48 | ckknight | methinks |
| 21:11.51 | aestil | i need to be able to specify the level of on a strata. |
| 21:11.57 | NivFreak | I can't work at home very well now days |
| 21:12.05 | Primer | Last night I went to the PTR to try out some new pvp specs for my warlock...and in front of IF all I ever found were 400+ resilience rogues |
| 21:12.11 | NivFreak | kids run too much interference |
| 21:12.16 | Yssaril | Zhinjio: check this out should help alot with making a ace3 config table http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 21:12.19 | aestil | someone responded to my jira ticket for cowtip auras. do you have a status update on that request? |
| 21:12.21 | Primer | it sucked |
| 21:12.27 | break19 | Xinhuan: http://ace.pastey.net/82699 - please look at that, and tell me why my SVs are not saving, when I change the text via my aceconfig window? |
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| 21:12.49 | sylvanaar_work | NivFreak yeah, thats why i moved back to where my company is, i worked at home for 8 years, but it got old |
| 21:12.49 | Nolook | aestil: You talking about how stuff like coords gets covered with Cartographer_Objectives or something different? |
| 21:13.10 | Nefarion | you here Xinhuan? |
| 21:13.10 | NeoTron | so I take it there's no general addon for normal mob localization (which would be expected due to the scale of such an undertaking) |
| 21:13.16 | Ellipsis | aestil: cowtip auras is a "someday" feature at this point |
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| 21:13.24 | Elsia | heya |
| 21:13.32 | Ellipsis | ~stalk Elsia |
| 21:13.33 | purl | ACTION furtively infiltrates Elsia's shadows and when Elsia is turned away jumps out to take a picture with his camera phone! |
| 21:13.34 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:13.39 | Zhinjio | Yssaril: not using Ace3. Otherwise, yeah, I have the data I needed from the Ace2 docs. |
| 21:13.42 | aestil | Nolook: i don't know what you are refering too, so it must be something different. |
| 21:13.43 | Elsia | ~hug Ellipsis |
| 21:13.44 | purl | ACTION hugs Ellipsis tightly until Ellipsis turns slightly blue |
| 21:13.44 | NivFreak | people on ebay are still crazy |
| 21:13.52 | NivFreak | they bid things up higher than retail, and higher than buy it now auctions |
| 21:13.58 | aestil | Ellipsis: are you taking over cowtip dev now or something? |
| 21:13.59 | Nefarion | i think it was you that mentioned on the forums TomTom has a directional arrow being implemented..? |
| 21:14.07 | cladhaire | aye its already working on trunk |
| 21:14.08 | Xinhuan | ask cladhaire about it |
| 21:14.10 | Nolook | aestil: kk thanks |
| 21:14.11 | Ellipsis | no, I just keep the users out of ckknight's hair :P |
| 21:14.12 | cladhaire | just needs everything to be tied together |
| 21:14.14 | cladhaire | it should land in 2.4 |
| 21:14.18 | cladhaire | ish |
| 21:14.19 | aestil | i'm not a typical user. |
| 21:14.25 | cladhaire | assuming it doesn't sneak up on me too quickly |
| 21:14.26 | Ellipsis | yes you are |
| 21:14.30 | Ellipsis | now go jira your framelevel request :P |
| 21:14.30 | Nefarion | already working though on the trunk? |
| 21:14.31 | aestil | and i havnt' asked about that feature since 3 months ago that i ticked it. |
| 21:14.35 | ckknight | aestil: Ellipsis is like my secretary |
| 21:14.46 | aestil | i think once every three months is a reasonable amount of time to check in for a request. |
| 21:14.47 | ckknight | sexual harassment and everything |
| 21:14.52 | Ellipsis | rawr~ |
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| 21:15.00 | aestil | ckknight: you harass her sexually? |
| 21:15.01 | Nefarion | okay that's all i needed to know. thanks guys. =) |
| 21:15.03 | Xinhuan | break19 |
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| 21:15.10 | Xinhuan | did you press ENTER or click the OK button |
| 21:15.11 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 21:15.15 | ckknight | constantly |
| 21:15.16 | Xinhuan | when you edit the textbox |
| 21:15.17 | aestil | nice. |
| 21:15.19 | Nolook | So I should stalk Ellipsis too? |
| 21:15.33 | aestil | keeps them on their toes. |
| 21:15.34 | ckknight | Nolook: no, I live with her, it's different |
| 21:15.43 | break19 | Xinhuan: yes of course.. and it shows the new text when I enter/leave combat as it should.. but relogging just sets it back to the defaults. |
| 21:15.53 | Xinhuan | are you on winxp or vista? |
| 21:15.54 | Nolook | All good, only stalking you then. |
| 21:16.01 | break19 | neither |
| 21:16.22 | Xinhuan | i assume the whole addon is working? |
| 21:16.33 | Xinhuan | db.profile.text has the correct value? |
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| 21:17.03 | Ellipsis | man, imagine how cool it would be if I could stay connected for more than 5 minutes at a time |
| 21:17.12 | break19 | $ uname -a - Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.0: Tue Feb 5 16:15:19 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.3.13~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc |
| 21:17.12 | Ellipsis | I could like, participate in real conversations and everything! |
| 21:17.15 | break19 | *flex* |
| 21:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | any way to disable the bars in bigwigs? |
| 21:17.33 | break19 | Xinhuan: yea.. everything else works like it should.. its just not saving the friggin var |
| 21:17.43 | Ozguli | why would you want to disable the bars? |
| 21:17.44 | Xinhuan | only reason i can think of is that your savedvar is read-only. |
| 21:17.50 | Xinhuan | the file that is |
| 21:17.53 | break19 | Xinhuan: but its not... |
| 21:17.55 | Xinhuan | or you have insufficient disk space |
| 21:18.11 | Xinhuan | feel free to reboot your entire computer and check again |
| 21:18.35 | Snago | break19: try moving the "local db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("EnvenomXDB", defaults)"-line to OnInitialize |
| 21:18.50 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 21:18.52 | Xinhuan | i know why |
| 21:18.54 | Xinhuan | what snago said |
| 21:19.12 | nevcairiel | why do people try to do that in the main chunk anyway =/ |
| 21:19.14 | Xinhuan | you can only register your db *AFTER* ADDON_LOADED has occured |
| 21:19.25 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 21:19.26 | Xinhuan | which is *after* wow has loaded your sv |
| 21:19.31 | break19 | oh.. *bonk self* |
| 21:19.43 | Xinhuan | if you register it before, wow later loads a EnvenomXDB which overwrites the global |
| 21:19.52 | Xinhuan | but your local copy is clean |
| 21:20.00 | Xinhuan | and that one gets saved |
| 21:20.13 | Zhinjio | can the "passValue" in a config table be a table ? ... or multiple single values? |
| 21:20.41 | ckknight | Zhinjio: Rock or Ace? |
| 21:20.44 | Zhinjio | Rock |
| 21:20.52 | ckknight | passValue = "alpha" |
| 21:20.55 | ckknight | passValue2 = "bravo" |
| 21:20.58 | ckknight | passValue3 = "charlie" |
| 21:20.59 | Zhinjio | aha. |
| 21:21.00 | ckknight | ad nauseum |
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| 21:21.08 | ckknight | better than doing a table, too |
| 21:21.25 | Zhinjio | and then func = function ( foo, bar, ... ) |
| 21:21.28 | Zhinjio | yeah? |
| 21:21.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:21.35 | Zhinjio | alrighty. Thanks. |
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| 21:22.17 | break19 | Xinhuan: I still need to declare "local db" in the main chunk, right? |
| 21:22.20 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r62274 10PiraPlex/ (PiraPlex.lua PiraPlex.xml): PiraPlex :- new look UI with tabs |
| 21:22.46 | Xinhuan | if you want to |
| 21:22.58 | Xinhuan | if not, your Oninit can always do |
| 21:23.05 | break19 | well.. I didn't, and I'm getting: [2008/02/20 15:20:32-436-x1]: EnvenomX\core.lua:41: attempt to index global 'db' (a nil val |
| 21:23.07 | Xinhuan | self.db = Libstub(db)..blah |
| 21:23.25 | Xinhuan | its clearly up to you how you want to refer to your db |
| 21:24.05 | grennon | Xinhuan: i like the fit and finish you've given postal |
| 21:24.08 | break19 | kk.. if i dont, then I'd refer to my db as vx.db.whatever, and if I do, I can simply do db.whatever ? |
| 21:24.32 | Xinhuan | i didn't really do much grennon |
| 21:24.35 | Iboong-Kenzo | 123 |
| 21:24.36 | nevcairiel | stupid blizzard .. now they go around and disable the kalecgos encounter on PTR ... how teh hell are we supposed to learn that fight =P |
| 21:25.01 | grennon | Xinhuan: fit and finish is a good thing |
| 21:25.32 | grennon | ive been thinking about adding an option to purge BG token mails out of the inbox...... |
| 21:25.54 | Xinhuan | there's a couple of requests i've thought about but never really gone around to it, like "marking all mail as read" |
| 21:26.02 | Xinhuan | its not really needed |
| 21:26.12 | grennon | do people actually read mail? |
| 21:26.29 | Xinhuan | "mark mail as read" removes the "new mail" icon on your minimap |
| 21:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | quick help me here i have never used pitbull, i don't have the intention of using it either atm, but some guildy is annoying me how to change the HP display on the player frame, i assume it's a DogTag fontstring on the player frame, but what is the configuration menu entry called where you can change the fontstrings for the player menu? cba to install pitbull just for looking it up :P |
| 21:26.38 | Xinhuan | so if you actually have new mail, that icon actually has meaning |
| 21:27.10 | grennon | in game mail is basically a logistics system though, marking mail as read is more of an email thing |
| 21:27.10 | Xinhuan | rather than haveing it displayed all the time |
| 21:27.10 | grennon | ive never met people who really use game mail for in game email |
| 21:27.10 | Xinhuan | um, they use it more for tracking AH |
| 21:27.16 | kenlyric | well, I hate that it tells me I have mail when what I have is money I'm waiting for from the AH that it won't give me |
| 21:27.18 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: Player -> Texts -> Health |
| 21:27.26 | Xinhuan | like, mark all mail as read, then when a new item sold on AH, it shows up on "new mail icon" |
| 21:27.31 | grennon | ah |
| 21:27.41 | kenlyric | uh, it does show up that way |
| 21:27.47 | kenlyric | red envelope instead of green |
| 21:27.58 | kenlyric | if it happens while you're logged in... |
| 21:28.15 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, that's probably because you use some addon |
| 21:28.20 | Xinhuan | that colors it |
| 21:28.21 | grennon | maybe they would mile a red gmail icon that flashes blue, plays a sound, and pops up a window that shows a subject and sender too |
| 21:28.24 | Xinhuan | default UI doesn't |
| 21:28.26 | kenlyric | aren't we talking about an addon? |
| 21:28.33 | Xinhuan | clearly not about the same one |
| 21:28.36 | grennon | perhaps a dancing clown could walk on the screen or maybe a cute dog |
| 21:28.49 | Zicon | NO DOGS |
| 21:28.51 | Elsia | hmm how do I get the aura icons to the right again, seem to only be able to select up or down growth now |
| 21:28.56 | grennon | or a paperclip with eyes |
| 21:28.57 | Elsia | for pitbull |
| 21:29.10 | Ellipsis | Elsia: enable "split" |
| 21:29.13 | Elsia | k |
| 21:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:27] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: Player -> Texts -> Health <--thanks |
| 21:30.23 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: well, steal the code from Mailfu, or make it better |
| 21:30.51 | Elsia | ellipsis: thanks that works |
| 21:31.03 | Xinhuan | i think, you will find that Postal, MailFu, Postman have nearly no overlapping capabilities ;p |
| 21:31.11 | Xinhuan | so you could use all 3 |
| 21:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 21:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` is there a way to hide the bars in bigwigs? |
| 21:33.21 | kenlyric | which one of them bulkmails? :) |
| 21:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 21:34.12 | kenlyric | speaking of that, did hyper quit? haven't seen him around. |
| 21:34.52 | ckknight | kenlyric: he just kinda faded away |
| 21:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | dogtag for seeing percent for mobs but HP for players? |
| 21:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i am being lazy :P) |
| 21:35.42 | Starinnia | sec, i got one somewhere |
| 21:35.52 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: [IsPlayer?FractionalHP!PercentHP:Percent] |
| 21:36.35 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks, i couldn't find the IsPlayer? lookup :D |
| 21:39.26 | CIA-12 | 03apoco * r62275 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
| 21:39.26 | CIA-12 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 21:39.26 | CIA-12 | - Few Bug Fixes (possibly, I forget ><) |
| 21:39.26 | CIA-12 | - Increased Size of frame to allow dockage. |
| 21:39.47 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r62276 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Dcr_opt.lua Dcr_utils.lua): |
| 21:39.47 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 21:39.47 | CIA-12 | - Fix a LUA error that could happen when changing of profile. |
| 21:39.47 | krka | CIA-12: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 21:40.17 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:40.26 | Chompers | :P |
| 21:40.35 | Ellipsis | ahaha |
| 21:41.18 | Zhinjio | thats pretty funny |
| 21:41.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ANYWAY |
| 21:42.04 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i hide the bigwigs bars? |
| 21:42.15 | Ellipsis | introduce them to your mom |
| 21:42.33 | Chompers | huh |
| 21:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd rather int.. no that's lame |
| 21:42.40 | Ellipsis | \o/ |
| 21:43.22 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: disable the bars module |
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| 21:45.03 | xyu | !ar 2000 |
| 21:45.03 | WoWLuaircBot | xyu: Points given is above or below the threshold for conversion (all 0s). Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points (!ap)? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:45.03 | Xinhuan | 2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:45.26 | Pkekyo| | WTS Shoes...ellipsis, halp! |
| 21:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: i'd do that, but i can't find out how it seems |
| 21:45.43 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: got fubar? |
| 21:46.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz yeah |
| 21:46.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i do |
| 21:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i still can't disable the bar module. there is no option for it. |
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| 21:50.40 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r62277 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: |
| 21:50.40 | CIA-12 | PiraPlex :- |
| 21:50.40 | CIA-12 | - Change all text-msg mention of "Toggle PiraPlex Addon Manager" into "Open PiraPlex" |
| 21:50.40 | CIA-12 | - spiffy-up hint for "Open PiraPlex" FuBar menu item |
| 21:50.40 | CIA-12 | - fix the very top line the GPL header in PiraPlx.lua (title and brief description) |
| 21:50.50 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r62278 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): |
| 21:50.50 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 21:50.50 | CIA-12 | 3.3.4 |
| 21:50.50 | CIA-12 | Feature: AutoRelease flag is now separed for each BG |
| 21:50.50 | CIA-12 | Fixed: Arathi Basin wrong faction guess for non english clients |
| 21:51.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz ? |
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| 21:51.56 | Ordog | does somebody ever encountered a really wierd stretched loot window ? |
| 21:52.08 | Ordog | any idea what could cause that? |
| 21:52.24 | Zhinjio | straw poll: would you rather see error messages in a popup or in your chat window? |
| 21:53.18 | Yssaril | Zhinjio: depends on the severity if the error :) |
| 21:54.10 | Paradox_ | pitbull users: how do I re-enable weapon buffs to be shown as they seem to have disabled themselves |
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| 21:55.10 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: go to the aura settings for your player frame and enable them? |
| 21:55.18 | Paradox_ | they are enabled |
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| 21:55.24 | Ellipsis | disable and re-enable? |
| 21:55.32 | Fin | is there a /console command to set the camera zoom limit? |
| 21:55.32 | Paradox_ | seriously? |
| 21:55.38 | ckknight | Paradox_: it should show up... |
| 21:55.43 | Paradox_ | i've tried that |
| 21:55.55 | ckknight | Paradox_: okay, I'll look into that later |
| 21:55.59 | ckknight | file a jira ticket |
| 21:56.17 | Paradox_ | msut have been a recent update because they've only gone this evening |
| 21:56.26 | Paradox_ | jira ticket? |
| 21:56.40 | ckknight | jira.wowace.com |
| 21:57.43 | Antiar1 | Hahahahahaha |
| 21:57.45 | Antiar1 | xkcd today |
| 21:57.48 | Antiar1 | http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 21:57.52 | Antiar1 | That is so my wife and I. |
| 21:57.52 | Paradox_ | updated it again and reloaded |
| 21:57.54 | Antiar1 | You have no idea. |
| 21:57.55 | Paradox_ | seems fine now |
| 21:58.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 21:58.20 | kenlyric | oh lord! |
| 21:58.26 | kenlyric | that comic may be epic |
| 21:58.27 | Elsia | anti: you know why libguidregistry doesn't store or offer GUID->unitid? |
| 21:58.39 | Antiarc | Elsia: No need, name acts as a UnitID |
| 21:58.42 | NivFreak | Antiarc: I still haven't trained my wife to go to bed by herself ;) |
| 21:58.51 | Elsia | antiarc: not always, take party pets |
| 21:59.00 | Antiarc | UnitClass("Adrine-pet") |
| 21:59.04 | Elsia | unitid is preferable for handling raid rosters over names |
| 21:59.12 | Elsia | there can be two Adrine-pet in raid |
| 21:59.16 | Elsia | ah I see |
| 21:59.31 | Elsia | hmm |
| 21:59.43 | Antiarc | If you want to code up direct unit ID handling, feel free |
| 21:59.47 | Elsia | what about units having the same name as npcs? |
| 21:59.55 | Antiarc | But you just have to take any kind of party change into account |
| 22:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 22:00.10 | Antiarc | Elsia: That's an unsolved problem, unfortunately. |
| 22:00.14 | Antiarc | Which that would fix |
| 22:00.20 | ckknight | Grum: sent |
| 22:00.27 | Elsia | yep basically I think I need to ditch roster, but I do need some good raid tracking to keep unitid's integrity |
| 22:00.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis ckknight if i disable something in Texts in pitbull, how do i reenabled it so it appears again? |
| 22:00.29 | Antiarc | My answer is generally " I don't support hunters naming their pet the same as the MT" :P |
| 22:00.33 | Grum | ty |
| 22:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 22:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | found it |
| 22:00.49 | Elsia | which event fires when a raid gets reorganised? |
| 22:00.56 | Antiarc | Uhh, lemme check |
| 22:00.58 | ckknight | Antiarc: does UnitClass("Adrine") work in 2.4? |
| 22:01.07 | Antiarc | ckknight: Yes |
| 22:01.12 | Antiarc | If Adrine is in your party |
| 22:01.19 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: there's Disabled texts |
| 22:01.23 | ckknight | Antiarc: group, you mean? |
| 22:01.26 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 22:01.29 | Elsia | or raid |
| 22:01.30 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:01.42 | ckknight | group = party or raid |
| 22:01.47 | Elsia | ;) |
| 22:02.04 | ckknight | Antiarc: what about cross-battlegrounds peoples? |
| 22:02.15 | ckknight | "Someguy-Some Other Realm" |
| 22:02.17 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:02.20 | Antiarc | Haven't tested it |
| 22:02.31 | ckknight | not as though we really can anyway |
| 22:02.48 | Antiarc | Elsia: http://antiarc.pastey.net/82702 - that's Threat-1.0's event registration for handling name<->unitID mapping |
| 22:02.56 | Nolook | Fin: /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMax",30) |
| 22:02.56 | Elsia | anti: thanks |
| 22:03.51 | Antiarc | You don't need UNIT_PET |
| 22:03.56 | Antiarc | That was in there for something else |
| 22:04.10 | Elsia | k |
| 22:04.13 | evl | I'd rather have a UNIT_HOE |
| 22:04.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:01] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: there's Disabled texts <--yeah i found that, but now i'm getting a report that Target/Texts/Other is missing in RockConfig. |
| 22:05.23 | Elsia | UNIT_HOE - This event triggers when a warlock succubus seduces you or whips you. |
| 22:05.27 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: enter config mode |
| 22:05.45 | Antiarc | WHOA |
| 22:05.50 | Antiarc | New PTR patch notes! |
| 22:05.53 | Antiarc | Holy craps! |
| 22:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 22:05.56 | sag_ich_nicht | even more new ones? |
| 22:06.01 | Antiarc | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 22:06.06 | cladhaire | diff? |
| 22:06.21 | evl | diff or gtfo |
| 22:06.30 | nevcairiel | new-new or the same new that was on mmo-champion? |
| 22:06.35 | Antiarc | Lots of the "leaked" notes are in here |
| 22:06.36 | cladhaire | yeah srsly |
| 22:06.37 | cladhaire | details bitch |
| 22:06.38 | Antiarc | I dunno, first I've seen today |
| 22:06.45 | Antiarc | * Lifebloom healing coefficient has been reduced. |
| 22:06.56 | cladhaire | that one is already reported. |
| 22:06.57 | Matrix110 | old |
| 22:06.59 | evl | omg old |
| 22:07.05 | Antiarc | Bah. Fine :P |
| 22:07.06 | NivFreak | Antiarc: you're behind :) |
| 22:07.13 | Antiarc | I woke up an hour ago |
| 22:07.17 | Antiarc | Gimme a break :P |
| 22:07.25 | sag_ich_nicht | old |
| 22:07.32 | cladhaire | like YESTERDAY OLD ZOMG |
| 22:07.37 | cladhaire | zomg brb |
| 22:07.49 | Antiarc | How did I miss it? :( |
| 22:08.04 | evl | Antiarc: By not reloading mmo-champion 3 times per minute? |
| 22:08.09 | evl | incomprehensible |
| 22:08.43 | Elsia | gotta try this: *) Combat Log Improvements - ctrl-right clicking functionality has been added for individual information sorting |
| 22:08.58 | nevcairiel | that was in before, wasnt it? |
| 22:08.59 | ckknight | I demand a diff! |
| 22:09.00 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis-- (n=ellipsis@71.141.159.157) |
| 22:09.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:09.08 | nevcairiel | create one yourself =P |
| 22:09.11 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna go get some food |
| 22:09.18 | Chompers | om nom nom |
| 22:09.30 | nevcairiel | diffing will be much easier once the patch is out |
| 22:09.45 | Antiarc | Interesting change to Mutilate there |
| 22:09.49 | Antiarc | Might actually make Mutilate worth it again |
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| 22:09.59 | nevcairiel | oh the patch actually is out |
| 22:10.06 | nevcairiel | Elsia: its down =P |
| 22:10.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:10.11 | Elsia | :( |
| 22:10.35 | Starinnia | and do you really think they fixed it? or just masked it behind a different bug? |
| 22:10.41 | nevcairiel | downloading patch and diffing patchnotes files .. thats better then doing that on a website |
| 22:10.51 | Elsia | no it's up.. I'm currently inside the game and killing stuff |
| 22:11.17 | Antiarc | Matchmaking: If a queued player has a personal rating higher than their team rating, the matchmaking system will now use the highest personal rating of a queued member of that team for matchmaking purposes, instead of the team rating. |
| 22:11.20 | Antiarc | Interesting change. |
| 22:11.29 | nevcairiel | i like that, actually |
| 22:11.34 | Antiarc | I do too |
| 22:11.44 | Antiarc | It'll help limit people gaming the system |
| 22:11.49 | nevcairiel | no 2300 players ganking 1500's because they felt like creating a new team |
| 22:11.52 | Starinnia | no more uber 2v2 player killing me in 5v5.. sweet |
| 22:12.05 | Antiarc | Well- |
| 22:12.05 | Elsia | hmm they have odd visibility/collision bugs this built |
| 22:12.11 | Antiarc | Your personal rating resets if you join a new team |
| 22:12.21 | evl | ^ |
| 22:12.25 | Antiarc | But it'll help prevent people from selling high-rated teams |
| 22:12.40 | Antiarc | Selling 1850 or whatever. |
| 22:12.44 | NivFreak | not really... |
| 22:12.52 | Saroz_ | Funkeh`, naj mod is fucked |
| 22:12.58 | Starinnia | i think he meant people with a 2300 team making a different bracket team |
| 22:12.59 | nevcairiel | meh the bunbled patch notes file didnt get updated |
| 22:13.11 | NivFreak | Starinnia: I'd bet it's per bracket |
| 22:13.14 | Antiarc | Presonal ratings are per team, per bracket. |
| 22:13.34 | evl | That's no the problem, the problem is that the itemization is fucked so e.g getting the S3 main-hand for a rogue will also give you the second best PVE mainhand before glaives... it's retarded. |
| 22:13.36 | NivFreak | just because you can get a 2000+ rating with your resto druid in 2v2, doesn't mean you should/will fight 2000+ teams in 5v |
| 22:13.39 | NivFreak | 5 |
| 22:13.41 | Starinnia | the patch notes were ambiguous... >.> |
| 22:14.05 | Chompers | 103dps (vs players) |
| 22:14.08 | Chompers | problem sorted |
| 22:14.37 | Starinnia | I think they should go by the personal rating of any bracket for match making... but I don't do it competitively so I'll just QQ in a corner :P |
| 22:14.43 | nevcairiel | i hope they fixed some of the crash bugs on ptr tho |
| 22:14.59 | NivFreak | Starinnia: that's really dumb |
| 22:15.16 | Starinnia | yeah, it prolly is |
| 22:15.20 | NivFreak | the game play is very different between 2v and 5v |
| 22:15.39 | NivFreak | I've decided I hate arenas |
| 22:15.45 | Starinnia | true, but what about 2v and 3v? |
| 22:15.47 | NivFreak | I'm just not sure why I can't stop playing them... |
| 22:15.58 | NivFreak | Starinnia: yes |
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| 22:16.07 | Starinnia | I don't see it as much |
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| 22:16.28 | NivFreak | it's not as drastic, but very different still |
| 22:16.31 | Starinnia | a full S3 rogue is still very annoying to fight in the 1500 3v3 bracket |
| 22:16.42 | NivFreak | he won't be at 1500 long |
| 22:16.50 | Starinnia | 4 weeks so far |
| 22:17.00 | NivFreak | then he sucks |
| 22:17.06 | Gnarfoz | still annoying |
| 22:17.08 | Starinnia | its the team |
| 22:17.15 | Starinnia | he only plays 3 games out of their 10 |
| 22:17.22 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5B229E50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:17.30 | NivFreak | figure out when the play, and avoid it :P |
| 22:17.37 | Starinnia | yeah, thats what we did |
| 22:17.54 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 22:17.57 | Antiarc | And down goes PVE |
| 22:18.01 | Elsia | combat log design looks much better already |
| 22:18.21 | kebinusan | any word on how much the lifebloom coefficient was nerfed by yet |
| 22:18.22 | Elsia | life tap still doesn't trigger a damage event though |
| 22:18.44 | NeoTron | Antiarc: /cry. no Kalecgos for my guild :( |
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| 22:21.45 | Trefane_Work | where can i find documentation on the .source and source.wau files? |
| 22:22.18 | Antiarc | -COMBATLOG_FILTER_UNKNOWN = COMBATLOG_OBJECT_NONE; |
| 22:22.18 | Antiarc | +COMBATLOG_FILTER_UNKNOWN_UNITS= COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_OBJECT; |
| 22:22.18 | Antiarc | COMBATLOG_FILTER_EVERYTHING =0xFFFFFFFF; |
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| 22:22.37 | Antiarc | Man |
| 22:22.45 | CIA-12 | 03break19 * r62279 10EnvenomX/ (EnvenomX.toc core.lua enUS.lua): EnvenomX - Added a very basic config GUI, and allowed for a custom text string to be entered. |
| 22:22.51 | Antiarc | The PVE PTR keeps going down faster than your momma. |
| 22:23.28 | NivFreak | PVP ftw |
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| 22:24.11 | Antiarc | Why does Yoshi use assloads of table lookups in the combat log? :( |
| 22:24.18 | Antiarc | That thing gets a TON of traffic. |
| 22:25.02 | Xinhuan | its probbaly still more efficient than the old combat log |
| 22:25.03 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 22:25.08 | NeoTron | Yoshi? |
| 22:26.11 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi |
| 22:26.21 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Well, true. But still! :P |
| 22:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: well, you could email him and ask |
| 22:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 22:27.08 | Josh_Borke | link to code |
| 22:27.13 | Antiarc | He was in IRC the other day. If he pops in I'll ask |
| 22:27.16 | Elsia | I still think that one could write a neat damage meter using the filtered log option.. just that it'll have to change with the combat log filter settings and the other filter changes |
| 22:27.35 | Antiarc | Josh_Borke: It's mostly just gratuitous use of things like bit.band |
| 22:27.42 | Antiarc | Rather than using a bit_band upvalue, etc |
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| 22:27.55 | Josh_Borke | oh |
| 22:28.05 | Arrowmaster | blizzard code never uses upvales |
| 22:28.10 | Antiarc | I know. But it should :( |
| 22:29.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:27] <+Antiarc> He was in IRC the other day. If he pops in I'll ask <--or you just email him to that email address he gave you for that test case |
| 22:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:29.43 | Antiarc | Heh, feels ike a petty thing to ask for :P |
| 22:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | if it lowers traffic? |
| 22:30.01 | Xinhuan | i can email him at 2 email addresses ;p |
| 22:30.22 | sag_ich_nicht | he was pretty worried about the traffic, so if you help him lower it i think he would be glad about it :P |
| 22:31.40 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022008_153030.png |
| 22:31.46 | Xinhuan | well the thing is, traffic isn't changed |
| 22:31.52 | Antiarc | Well, it'd make it run faster, not lower traffic |
| 22:32.00 | Antiarc | bit.band is two table lookups per call |
| 22:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:24] <+Antiarc> That thing gets a TON of traffic. |
| 22:32.06 | Xinhuan | the wow servers don't send anything more or less to you |
| 22:32.12 | ulic | yea, the chat icons are cool |
| 22:32.15 | sag_ich_nicht | don't write it rong! |
| 22:32.20 | Antiarc | _G.bit, then bit.band, as opposed to a single upvalue |
| 22:32.31 | ulic | but {diamond} shows the triangle icon. |
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| 22:32.39 | Xinhuan | "traffic" isn't the correct term |
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| 22:33.15 | NivFreak | wow |
| 22:33.19 | nevcairiel | we all knew what Antiarc meant, except sag_ich_nicht :P |
| 22:33.21 | NivFreak | is that raid symbol thing in the native UI? |
| 22:33.24 | Antiarc | It's falled often. |
| 22:33.25 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Yes |
| 22:33.29 | Antiarc | called* |
| 22:33.30 | NivFreak | nice |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-12 | 03piranther * r62280 10PiraPlex/ (PiraPlex.lua PiraPlex.xml): |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-12 | PiraPlex :- |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-12 | - Add a "help" tab. Text not-yet written. |
| 22:33.32 | CIA-12 | - remove my short "TODO" list from PiraPlex.lua |
| 22:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: i have to keep up my image |
| 22:33.40 | Trefane_Work | Where does WAU pick up the description? Is it the notes field of the .toc? |
| 22:33.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:33.43 | purl | because i am retarded |
| 22:33.47 | Antiarc | Trefane_Work: Yes |
| 22:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise, nobody is going to believe that and help me |
| 22:33.54 | nevcairiel | ~good bot |
| 22:33.54 | purl | thanks, nevcairiel |
| 22:34.18 | Xinhuan | you know Antiarc, i don't think alexyoshi actually wrote much of the combatlogUI, think he only did the client backend |
| 22:34.27 | Xinhuan | i'll ask him next time he comes online |
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| 22:34.43 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, we all know you need help... |
| 22:34.51 | nevcairiel | he could still forward it to someone who did Xinhuan =P |
| 22:34.52 | Ellipsis | just not the kind we can give :) |
| 22:35.22 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: His name is at the top of the file! :P |
| 22:35.32 | Xinhuan | meh, i'll smack him |
| 22:35.40 | Antiarc | --[[ |
| 22:35.40 | Antiarc | --Blizzard Combat Log |
| 22:35.40 | Antiarc | -- by Alexander Yoshi |
| 22:36.15 | Xinhuan | maybe blizzard has a policy of not using upvalues ;p |
| 22:36.31 | nevcairiel | if so, they're good at enforcing it |
| 22:36.52 | Xinhuan | because, they sure as hell use a DAMN LOT of constants |
| 22:36.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: no u |
| 22:37.00 | Xinhuan | that are all globals |
| 22:37.07 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 22:37.13 | sag_ich_nicht | justified "no u", i win |
| 22:37.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 22:37.45 | Xinhuan | so, its been 2 hours, my food hasn't arrived, i'm hungry and moody now |
| 22:39.05 | nevcairiel | 2 hours for ordered food? |
| 22:39.06 | Elsia | meh combat log flags for shaman elementals are still wrong |
| 22:39.08 | nevcairiel | man your service stinks |
| 22:39.16 | Zhinjio | dude. no kidding. |
| 22:39.23 | Zhinjio | if I want more than 30 minutes, I get all grumpy. |
| 22:39.30 | Xinhuan | it usually comes in 15-20 min nevcairiel |
| 22:39.34 | Zhinjio | I want my food here BEFORE I order it! |
| 22:39.39 | Xinhuan | i just called them back, apparantly they "forgot" |
| 22:39.45 | break19 | 2hrs? delivery? |
| 22:39.57 | nevcairiel | Elsia: did someone report that? |
| 22:40.19 | Elsia | yeah, I did on the EU forum and someone Mald copied it to US, though mald called it not a bug though it is one |
| 22:40.37 | Xinhuan | mald? |
| 22:40.42 | Elsia | maldivia |
| 22:40.45 | nevcairiel | anyway, the patch they applied today probably was frozen like some time ago |
| 22:40.49 | Xinhuan | how is it a bug or not a bug? |
| 22:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | NOW |
| 22:41.07 | nevcairiel | so any "new" fixes will only make the next ptr push |
| 22:41.11 | nevcairiel | or even later ones |
| 22:41.14 | Elsia | well if a shaman casts an elemental totem the elemental will show as outsider not as mine |
| 22:41.16 | sag_ich_nicht | FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND MY SANITY IN MY RAID, how do i turn of the bars in bigwigs? |
| 22:41.34 | NivFreak | I love the bars |
| 22:41.35 | Elsia | I have yet to test if they show as grouped if in group but I doubt it |
| 22:41.38 | Xinhuan | hasn't it always been that way forever though? |
| 22:41.52 | Elsia | no, we never got flags before ;) |
| 22:42.03 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: my MT doesn't, doesn't need them, but i need commonauras for my sanity |
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| 22:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | so: tell me how to disable the bars so my MT doesn't disable bigwigs |
| 22:42.42 | Elsia | it also breaks blizz own combat log filtering.. no shaman will understand why filtering for me will not show their elemental |
| 22:42.42 | Xinhuan | disable what bars |
| 22:42.42 | Arrowmaster | i swore i saw an elemental totem on ptr and the elemetal said <Name's Guardian> instead of <Totem's Guardian> |
| 22:42.47 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: you cant disable all bars, you have to disable the specific bars in the boss module |
| 22:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: ugh. |
| 22:43.12 | Elsia | yes, the pet tag is correct |
| 22:43.18 | Elsia | the tag says Name's Guardian |
| 22:43.24 | Xinhuan | or he can drag the bars offscreen |
| 22:43.26 | Elsia | but the combat log flags are wrong |
| 22:43.42 | Elsia | hence why I call it a bug ;) |
| 22:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: for all that is holy, change that, please. :( |
| 22:44.11 | nevcairiel | Elsia: i bet they'll fix it, it'll just take some time to move through the development and ptr release progress ;) |
| 22:44.32 | Elsia | nev: think so too, as long it gets registered |
| 22:44.35 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt even want to bet how many different versionf of the PTR client are being tested at the same time |
| 22:45.16 | Arrowmaster | sometimes i hate being such an obsesive compulsive power gamer, im playing FF1 and fighting the first boss over and over again trying to get the rare drop |
| 22:45.47 | nevcairiel | "Transmute Arcanite no longer has a cooldown." |
| 22:45.49 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 22:45.51 | Grum | Anyone with a mac, could you please upload/share the mac-executables for 2.3.3 client for me? (just the rootdir of wow packed- should be about 10mb) |
| 22:46.01 | NivFreak | give me a place to put them |
| 22:46.08 | NivFreak | and a list of what you want |
| 22:46.09 | durcyn | Grum: sec |
| 22:46.12 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel what would i have to do to convince you to add an option to simply disable bars? |
| 22:46.18 | Grum | just the root dir zipped (no datafiles) |
| 22:46.32 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: what do i care, i dont generally code bigwigs :P |
| 22:46.37 | Grum | and i have no spot to store it unfortunately >< ... so prolly some free 'store it on tah intarwabz' thingie? |
| 22:46.48 | durcyn | Grum: you need the main .apps, or what? |
| 22:46.51 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:46.53 | NivFreak | looks like durcyn has you |
| 22:46.58 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 22:46.58 | Grum | i need to run it on a mac |
| 22:47.03 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like i have to bug funkeh |
| 22:47.03 | Grum | but i just have the datafiles on my windowsbox |
| 22:47.10 | estala | Anyone have Omen2 working on PTR without errors? |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r62281 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-12 | 3.3.5 |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-12 | Fix: Arathi Basin prediction was always showing Alliance victory conditions (non english versions only) |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-12 | Fix: Warsong gulch customization now fully works |
| 22:47.16 | Grum | and i refuse to fucking download 2gb to get 2 files :) |
| 22:47.34 | durcyn | estala: yep, make sure you're using sufficiently recent ace3 libs |
| 22:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel do you think just deleting bars.lua would break anything? :P |
| 22:47.44 | estala | I just grabbed everything today, afaik |
| 22:47.47 | nevcairiel | dunno :D |
| 22:47.55 | estala | I'll tell you the error in a sec |
| 22:47.59 | Grum | estala: they updated today afaik |
| 22:48.10 | estala | I just redownloaded and updated all my mods fro mscratch |
| 22:48.12 | estala | about 2 hours ago |
| 22:48.26 | durcyn | how |
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| 22:49.08 | estala | "Interface\Addons\LibDogTag-2.0\Modules\Threat.lua:25 Bad argument #3 to `UnitIsUnit'. expected "string", got "number" |
| 22:49.22 | durcyn | that's nothing to do with omen2 |
| 22:49.24 | Grum | durcyn: do you have a way of sharing it? or do i need to poke random other people? :D |
| 22:49.27 | durcyn | that's CowTip trying to use Threat-1.0 |
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| 22:49.38 | durcyn | Grum: are you logged in so's i can privmsg you the URL? |
| 22:49.45 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:49.46 | estala | So that's cowtip trying to use threat 1.0 |
| 22:49.47 | estala | ok |
| 22:49.47 | thul | GRUM IS WRONG |
| 22:49.48 | estala | Hmm |
| 22:50.03 | durcyn | estala: just rip the Threat string out of your CowTip config |
| 22:50.18 | estala | that's what I just did |
| 22:50.20 | estala | reloading |
| 22:50.26 | durcyn | don't need a reload |
| 22:50.33 | estala | good point |
| 22:50.36 | estala | well I'm reloading anyway lol |
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| 22:51.01 | estala | Still getting it |
| 22:51.05 | thul | Grum: nnoo :-P |
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| 22:52.00 | estala | Any other ideas durcyn |
| 22:52.01 | Grum | YES! (and i am right again) |
| 22:52.10 | Hobby | weeee airport wifi! |
| 22:52.24 | Grum | and you are .. bend .. kinda leftish... it looks like a hook thul, ever had a doctor look at it? O.o |
| 22:52.46 | durcyn | estala: something that uses dogtag is trying to query threat |
| 22:53.12 | estala | Yeah... |
| 22:53.13 | estala | Hmm |
| 22:53.13 | thul | ;/ |
| 22:53.17 | durcyn | so, er, stop mousing over things, yeah. |
| 22:53.24 | estala | it happens when I attack |
| 22:53.50 | durcyn | do you have something else set to show threat? pitbull, assessment, old copy of omen that wasn't properly deleted...? |
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| 22:54.02 | estala | pitbull, new omen, new recount |
| 22:54.41 | estala | a normal array of mods |
| 22:55.08 | estala | it's a pretty long list |
| 22:55.20 | estala | it happens whenever I hit |
| 22:55.27 | estala | or do stuff |
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| 22:56.15 | durcyn | well, only a few use dogtag for it though |
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| 22:56.29 | durcyn | cowtip pitbull parrot, pretty much it |
| 22:57.07 | estala | hmm ok |
| 22:57.12 | keiss | is the author of GridStatusHots around ? |
| 22:57.13 | estala | disabling some things to see if I can get rid of the errors |
| 22:57.38 | Diao | lol |
| 22:57.42 | Diao | i love fighting bad druids in wsg |
| 22:59.04 | robotusch | I love fighting warriors who are just as badly geared as me in AB |
| 22:59.18 | Diao | the druids who don't know any other keys aside from travelform while carrying flag |
| 22:59.25 | Diao | i can just mash hamstring and they die to autoattacks |
| 22:59.28 | robotusch | beat one with my holy paladin earlier, only lost about 2k hp/mana on that account |
| 22:59.35 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:59.35 | Diao | lol |
| 23:00.18 | robotusch | Judged light on him, kept SoR up & kept running in circles while spamming consecration |
| 23:00.46 | Grum | durcyn++ |
| 23:01.08 | ckknight | does anyone have the ptr framexml diff? |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r62282 10Elephant/ (11 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-12 | Elephant: |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-12 | - Adding roth.tga for borders |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-12 | - Removing combat logging since it is now useless with patch 2.4 |
| 23:01.14 | CIA-12 | - Removing all combat catchers |
| 23:01.15 | CIA-12 | - Changing filters to give more options to users |
| 23:01.17 | CIA-12 | - Changing general interface for a prettier(?) one. |
| 23:01.29 | ckknight | aw, I was gonna make an addon called Elephant |
| 23:01.32 | ckknight | :-( |
| 23:01.43 | Pkekyo| | lollilops |
| 23:02.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: QQ, Elephant is a chatlogger |
| 23:02.07 | robotusch | How about a Dachshund addon then? |
| 23:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | pb_ee1 |
| 23:02.27 | robotusch | .. or Giraffe? |
| 23:02.31 | pb_ee1 | yé |
| 23:02.47 | sag_ich_nicht | you want to update your SharedMedia addons |
| 23:02.50 | sag_ich_nicht | aint that right? :P |
| 23:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | they are so redundant :P |
| 23:03.09 | pb_ee1 | wot? you're talking about roth.tga? |
| 23:03.25 | NeoTron | I think I will call my addon ... hmmm... Wolpertinger |
| 23:03.40 | NeoTron | lol http://strangepictures.net/2008/02/05/wolperdinger-rare-bavarian-animal/ |
| 23:04.18 | pb_ee1 | ckknight, what did you want to do with this name? ;p |
| 23:04.20 | Pkekyo| | rofl NeoTron |
| 23:04.27 | Pkekyo| | pb_ee1: he wanted to secks it |
| 23:04.32 | ckknight | pb_ee1: I forget |
| 23:04.35 | NeoTron | It's rare! and it's Bavarian! |
| 23:04.37 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 23:04.41 | ckknight | pb_ee1: :-P |
| 23:04.45 | ckknight | it's okay, though |
| 23:04.47 | ckknight | there's lot of animals |
| 23:04.48 | pb_ee1 | =^_^= |
| 23:04.59 | pb_ee1 | elephant -> logger -> elephant have a good memory ;p |
| 23:05.00 | Stanzilla | < bavarian.. |
| 23:05.05 | sag_ich_nicht | SharedMediaBackgrounds for example pb_ee1 :P |
| 23:05.24 | ckknight | pb_ee1: they also have trunks |
| 23:05.28 | ckknight | and are republicans |
| 23:05.29 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:05.38 | pb_ee1 | aha yes good idea, i need to delete it from the svn |
| 23:05.39 | kebinusan | gay they reverted the buff to drain mana |
| 23:05.45 | pb_ee1 | sharedmediaadditionnalfonts is updated though |
| 23:05.57 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: wtf is a bavarian? |
| 23:06.04 | pb_ee1 | true hehe ;p |
| 23:06.04 | ckknight | kebinusan: it's not gay, it just prefers the company of other buffs |
| 23:06.07 | pb_ee1 | (ckk) |
| 23:06.20 | ckknight | pb_ee1: why delete it? |
| 23:06.37 | pb_ee1 | it doesn't contain anything interesting |
| 23:06.41 | Elsia | is there any way to get a unit's class/level without having a valid unitid for it? |
| 23:06.42 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: a inhabitant of Bavaria |
| 23:06.48 | pb_ee1 | four tgas that are a pain in the ass to use |
| 23:06.49 | Pkekyo| | wtf is a bavaria? |
| 23:06.50 | pb_ee1 | with eepanels |
| 23:07.12 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria |
| 23:07.14 | Thorgard | Pkekyo|, large state in Germany. |
| 23:07.26 | Pkekyo| | what's a germany? |
| 23:07.30 | Stanzilla | fail Pkekyo| |
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| 23:07.38 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 23:07.52 | NeoTron | Q: What is a Pkekyo| A: ??? |
| 23:08.03 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: a cookie |
| 23:09.32 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r62283 10SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrounds/: Removing SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrounds since it isn't maintained anymore and is useless. |
| 23:10.02 | pb_ee1 | on the other hand, SharedMediaAdditionalFonts is quite interesting |
| 23:10.53 | pb_ee1 | ckknight, did you look at my ticket on jira? |
| 23:10.58 | pb_ee1 | concerning PitBull |
| 23:11.03 | ckknight | pb_ee1: which ticket is that? |
| 23:11.07 | pb_ee1 | looking for it |
| 23:11.21 | pb_ee1 | not a bug but an improvement |
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| 23:13.17 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-260 |
| 23:13.31 | ckknight | pb_ee1: oh yea, I want to do that |
| 23:13.59 | Hobby | Is there any alternative to FishingAce that also does the sound, but with options on the levels? |
| 23:14.11 | pb_ee1 | someone told me it was on its way, that's a nice idea cause i'm currently translating PitBull in frFR (first shot), but i'm not even sure i have translated everything |
| 23:14.28 | Hobby | I've just adjusted the levels in my .lua and blocked updates, but was wondering if something more robust was out there |
| 23:14.34 | ckknight | pb_ee1: hold off for a little while |
| 23:14.34 | Chompers | how was the food ckknight? |
| 23:14.41 | ckknight | Chompers: food? |
| 23:14.46 | ckknight | Chompers: I got subway |
| 23:14.53 | Chompers | sweet |
| 23:15.04 | pb_ee1 | nice, i'll finish the first translation and adapt it to the new feature when released |
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| 23:18.10 | azraelo | Anyone here use tinytip? |
| 23:18.15 | Hobby | yep |
| 23:18.27 | Hobby | it's dead atm :( |
| 23:18.29 | azraelo | ah |
| 23:18.32 | azraelo | there ya go! |
| 23:18.36 | Hobby | had to revert back |
| 23:18.38 | azraelo | can i get an old version? |
| 23:18.53 | azraelo | which is the lastest working one? |
| 23:18.56 | azraelo | any idea? |
| 23:18.58 | Hobby | http://files.wowace.com/TinyTip/TinyTip-r41188.5.zip |
| 23:19.09 | azraelo | excellent ty |
| 23:19.13 | Hobby | np |
| 23:19.23 | azraelo | do i need TinyTipOptions anymore? |
| 23:19.27 | azraelo | haven't updated it in a while |
| 23:19.40 | Hobby | just to change the options |
| 23:19.45 | Hobby | flights boarding, gotta go |
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| 23:26.44 | Elsia | libguidregistry: should processUnit for mypet be processUnit(reg[units.player].name.."-"..name)? or simply "pet"? That will work even if the pet has a non-unique name |
| 23:32.16 | ckknight | I think the dash is misleading |
| 23:32.23 | ckknight | because of the name-server significance |
| 23:32.36 | Elsia | yeah, simply "pet" works in this case |
| 23:33.12 | mikma | azraelo: how come TinyTip is dead? |
| 23:33.31 | Xinhuan | its not dead |
| 23:34.05 | Aeyan | Thrae is rewriting it |
| 23:34.05 | Xinhuan | its just that the author decided to rewrite it, but his initial rewrite doesn't include like 80% of the features prior to the rewrite |
| 23:34.09 | Aeyan | Old version is in the branches |
| 23:35.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you could also just use cowtip |
| 23:35.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and be happy |
| 23:35.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:35.42 | Xinhuan | i use my own 20-line tooltip mod lol |
| 23:35.49 | Xinhuan | that does exactly what i want |
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| 23:37.38 | sag_ich_nicht | what does it do |
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| 23:40.15 | Xinhuan | all it does is modify the original default ui's tooltip to put < > around guild names, and add his target/targettarget |
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| 23:55.45 | CIA-12 | 03trefane * r62284 10SmartFitter/SmartFitter.toc: |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-12 | SmartFitter: |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-12 | - Fix note and author so they appear correctly for WAU. |
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