IRC log for #wowace on 20080218

00:00.07sbokay ;)
00:01.18sb(boss detection + autosave of fights with boss name - assessment has that feature :o)
00:01.50[VM]MysticfoxCowTip seems fine for what I need it for on the PTR =) Pretty sure my UI is 100% working now with the exception of Omen and MSBT/SCT
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00:02.05Cryectheh well Recount 1 kinda has that :-p
00:02.16Cryectjust hope you don't want to save it long!
00:02.23sbhaha :p
00:02.25CryectBut yeah better fight stuff hopefully will be in
00:02.35Cryectas well as stuff to combine fights
00:02.58CryectI would like to be able to add compare fights etc as well
00:03.15Shinweii'm getting a lot of pitbull_altaura errors with the last update
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00:03.23sbsome global and local reset option, global resets everything and local only resets normal fights, but doesnt reset (detected) boffights or flagged (by user!? :p) fights  
00:03.24ShinweiMessage: ..\AddOns\PitBull_AltAura\update.lua line 86:
00:03.24ThraeAs for TinyTip, the version on Wowace is broken, but people yelled at me when I uploaded my incomplete rewrite.
00:03.24Shinwei<PROTECTED>
00:03.27sbsomething like that would be <3 :p
00:03.45ulicShinwei: I think some stuff changed, maybe altaura hasn't been updated
00:03.54ulicregular works fine for me with the latest build.
00:04.12ThraeI'll have people yell at me anyway. Here we go.
00:05.09Shinweiyeah pitbull is going crazy for me in AB right now
00:05.40ulicShinwei: make sure you have the latest version of pitbull, then if you use 3rd party modules make sure to update or disable them.
00:06.10Shinweii just updated using WAU two minutes ago
00:06.11Shinweiall of my addons
00:06.27ShinweiI think i'm going to disable altaura and go back to default aura
00:06.42ulicI updated like 4 hours ago, had problems with aura, update again like 2 hrs ago, and it worked fine.
00:06.51Tifi!points 1404
00:06.52Xinhuan1404 arena points require 2419(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.
00:07.12Tifi!rating 1404
00:07.13Xinhuan1404 rating gives 322(5s), 284(3s) and 245(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
00:07.47Thrae!ap 1404
00:07.48ThraeBotThrae: Arena points from a rating of 1404 is, 2v2: 245, 3v3: 284, 5v5: 322
00:09.37mattswellwho's maintaining acecomm? i'm getting invalid escape code errors
00:09.46sag_ich_nicht+
00:09.55sag_ich_nicht*probably because you are using invalid escape codes
00:09.56sag_ich_nicht:P
00:10.03mattswell:D
00:11.04mattswelldidn't realize i was using any escape codes
00:11.57ulicthere is no escape
00:12.46[dRaCo]*there is no spoon.
00:12.47[dRaCo]fixed.
00:13.30Firelemminggoodnight everybody
00:16.34CIA-1203ulic * r61827 10PitBull/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
00:16.34CIA-12PitBull
00:16.35CIA-12- Added ReadyCheckIcon module (can someone update .bat & .sh? I don't have permission)
00:17.04Shadowedhrm
00:17.20ShadowedHas anyone been noticing that your interrupts on other people don't seem to be showing up in the 2.4 combatlog?
00:19.08CIA-1203thrae * r61828 10/branches/TinyTip/ (. TinyTip/ TinyTipExtras/ TinyTipOptions/ TipLib/): TinyTip: Creating branches in anticipation of v2.0 upgrade.
00:19.25|Pixel|I was rather focused on the fact it was ultimately bugged :)
00:19.39|Pixel|like showing me (as a warlock) shapeshifting into travel form
00:20.14ShadowedWell, there doesn't appear to be an event firing when you interrupt someone, period
00:20.19Shadowedbut you get an event when someone interrupts you, or at least you did
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00:23.59kebinusannot safe for anyone, but this is the most amazing sick pun Ive seen in a while: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/46/Dogboner.jpg
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00:30.29NightHawkTheSaneI really didn't need to see that. ><
00:32.10CIA-1203thrae 07Ace2 * r61829 10TinyTip/: TinyTip: Switching current files to branches.
00:32.15kebinusan`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
00:32.19kebinusanbleh
00:32.54kebinusanI really wish I could bind my ptt key to mouse 4 in linux instead of usign `
00:33.36CIA-1203thrae * r61830 10/branches/TinyTipExtras/: TinyTip: Switching current files to branches.
00:34.03CIA-1203thrae 07Ace2 * r61831 10TinyTipExtras/: TinyTipExtras: Copying trunk to branches.
00:34.16Pkekyo|why does msn messenger have to be so fucking retarded at cropping display images?
00:34.31[dRaCo]'cause it's the msn messenger?
00:34.43Pkekyo|indeed
00:34.54Pkekyo|any way to get around it? :<
00:35.01[dRaCo]use anything else?
00:35.03CIA-1203thrae * r61832 10/branches/TinyTipOptions/: TinyTipOptions: Creating branch, again.
00:35.11[dRaCo]any multi-protocol messenger?
00:35.14Pkekyo|get around the problem, not nuke it :p
00:35.25NightHawkTheSanelibpurple ftw
00:35.30CIA-1203thrae * r61833 10/branches/TipLib/: TipLib: Creating branch, again.
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00:35.35[dRaCo]na, sorry, I'm just on icq
00:35.51CIA-1203thrae 07Ace2 * r61834 10TinyTipOptions/: TinyTipOptions: Copying to branches.
00:36.02Pkekyo|wants to put up a pic of mah purty new rifle, but msn keeps cutting away the stock and outer barrel so it just looks retarded >.<
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00:36.25CIA-1203thrae 07TipLib * r61835 10TipLib/: TipLib: Copying to branches.
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00:36.54[dRaCo]upload it anywhere, link it?
00:36.55WobWorkXinhuan: oh man insane:    "Outside Ring" is a continuous line drawing constructed from a 3000-city instance    of the Traveling Salesman Problem. The line is a simple closed curve drawn with    white ink. It divides the plane into two regions: in (drawn with red    ink) and out (drawn with black). From afar, the piece looks like an    alternating link, a knot formed from two interlaced loops, one red and one black.    
00:37.01WobWorkhttp://www.bridgesmathart.org/art-exhibits/jmm08/Bosch3.jpg
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00:37.51Xinhuantoo-much-time-on-his-hands
00:38.04CIA-1203thrae * r61836 10/trunk/ (TinyTip/ TinyTipExtras/ TinyTipOptions/ TipLib/): TinyTip addons: Bye-bye.
00:38.41Xinhuanbut yes, my code in routes can shade that perfectly fine ;p
00:38.52Pkekyo|[dRaCo]: it's allready uploaded, but want it as a display pic :>
00:39.30WobWorkhttp://www.bridgesmathart.org/art-exhibits/jmm08/
00:39.35WobWorkthat whole exhibit is kinda cool
00:39.51WobWorkXinhuan: PS, <3 Routes. I just tried it last night
00:40.56Xinhuanhehe
00:41.20Pkekyo|yeah, routes is fucking golden
00:41.57WobWorkhttp://www.bridgesmathart.org/art-exhibits/jmm08/bulatov1.jpg
00:41.58WobWorkoh man
00:42.05WobWorkI'd -love- that on my desk =P
00:42.12WobWorkor http://www.bridgesmathart.org/art-exhibits/jmm08/bulatov2.jpg
00:44.28mykxhrm.. anybody elses "Classtimer" completely broken after latest update ?
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00:46.02WobWorkkeiss: mourn?
00:46.13CivrockAnybody else having problems with tooltips on the PTR? Even default.
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00:46.37CivrockThey disappear way too fast after mouseovering something or somebody.
00:47.19ThraeMaybe slouken took my suggestion for fixing tooltip fading seriously
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00:48.35WebGuestHey, not sure if this is the right place, but I'm having problems with Omen...can I get help here?
00:48.48[dRaCo]it's the right place
00:49.09[dRaCo]not sure if any of the coders are here right now
00:49.22WebGuestI guess that solves that, just getting a LUA error after updating to latest version.
00:49.23krkaWebGuest: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
00:49.43[dRaCo]pastey the error somewhere
00:49.52[dRaCo]ace.pastey.net e.g.
00:50.14WebGuestInterface\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua:377:attempt to call method 'EnableKLHTMBroadcast' (a nil value)
00:50.22keissWobWork: i still use it
00:50.27WebGuestI tried disabling KLH brodacast, but that didn't fix it.
00:51.05[dRaCo]Antiarc: ping
00:51.08ShadowedLUA
00:51.16Shadowedkrka
00:51.21[dRaCo]if he doesn't answer, post at the forums
00:51.27[dRaCo]Shadowed: it's a timed trigger
00:51.27kenlyricShadowed: it has a timer
00:51.32Shadowedclose enough
00:51.40kenlyricI tried to abuse it already
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00:55.00Antiarc[dRaCo]: Pong
00:55.26[dRaCo]5 minutes ago: (WebGuest): Interface\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua:377:attempt to call method 'EnableKLHTMBroadcast' (a nil value)
00:55.40AntiarcWebGuest: Let me take a look
00:56.05Civrock[2008/02/17 19:37:12-1007-x1]: Threat-2.0\Threat-2.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:545: 'then' expected near ')'
00:56.17Civrock[2008/02/17 19:37:12-1007-x1]: Threat-2.0\Threat-2.0\ClassModules\Warrior.lua:18: attempt to call method 'GetOrCreateModule' (a nil value)
00:56.17CivrockThreat-2.0\Threat-2.0\ThreatBoot.lua:36: in main chunk
00:56.21Gngsktypo civ
00:56.32Gngskeasily fixed, go to line 545 and change ) to then
00:56.37CivrockI just got it off the SVN.
00:57.07AntiarcWebGuest: Are you running an actual version of KTM, as well?
00:57.08CIA-1203arrowmaster 07LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 * r61837 10LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua:
00:57.08CIA-12LibGUIDRegistry-0.1:
00:57.08CIA-12-now stores GUIDs for players guardians and fires a callback, SendAddonMessage() syncing to be added in the future
00:57.08CIA-12-by request now lib:GetName(GUID) works for all GUIDs seen
00:57.08CIA-12-WTB cleanup, I suck at naming stuff
00:58.05CIA-1203antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61838 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Typo fix
00:59.54CIA-1203cryect 072.4 * r61839 10Recount2/ (Data.lua Recount2.lua):
00:59.54CIA-12Recount2:
00:59.54CIA-12-Once filters are set, new data is automatically added to the views defined by those filters
00:59.54CIA-12-:FilterCombatantData and :CompressFilter are both now local functions since its unnecessary to call them now (:SetFilter will call them upon being set)
00:59.54CIA-12-:ClearFilter(filterID) can clear a view set by a filter here
01:00.37aestilif my character starts on a PvP server, and I transfer to a PvE server, can I ever transfer back to a PvP server?
01:01.01[dRaCo]afaik no
01:01.02keissno
01:01.07aestilinteresting.
01:01.22aestilantiarc, is threat 2 good on live servers?
01:01.31Arrowmasteraestil: no
01:03.17CryectThanks Arrowmaster!
01:03.21Civrock[2008/02/17 20:02:46-1008-x1]: Omen\Libs\Threat-2.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:545: 'then' expected near ')'
01:03.25CivrockLatest SVN.
01:03.42CIA-1203thrae * r61840 10TinyTip/ (12 files in 2 dirs): TinyTip: Beyond 0.2 in all its glory. You'll get your extra features back in TinyTipModules.
01:03.44CryectThough think I might have found a case where its missing a name store (got a nil for one return trying to figure out what caused that now)
01:03.47GngskCivrock, he fixed it, check his last commit.
01:03.52CivrockI just updated.
01:04.01Civrock2/3 errors got fixed.
01:04.22mort!rating 1710
01:04.23Xinhuan1710 rating gives 622(5s), 547(3s) and 472(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
01:05.04CryectHmmm maybe it was just some GUID without a name
01:05.06RaydenUnican you dot someone up before they run into an instance and they will die in the instance?
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01:05.33GngskRaydenUni, zoning doesn't remove debuffs
01:06.10RaydenUniwill you get a message telling you that you killed them?
01:06.22Gngskdunno about that
01:06.27Arrowmasterdont think so
01:06.29Pkekyo|doubt it
01:06.35Arrowmastersince they are out of combatlog distance
01:06.40Arrowmasteryou might get honor though
01:07.46CryectAh the nil is something I label as No One :-p
01:07.52CryectSo yeah something without a name
01:08.43AntiarcCivrock: I can't find where that would be erroring...
01:08.54AntiarcI fixed that error, pretty sure I committed it
01:08.55CivrockHmm.
01:09.09GngskAntiarc, you did
01:09.14CivrockI got 3 errors before the commit, after I updated it was just one.
01:10.23CivrockI got Threat-2.0, the latest Omen branch, and LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.
01:10.28CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61841 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua:
01:10.28CIA-12LibQuixote-2.0:
01:10.28CIA-12- Add quest mobs and items.
01:10.28CIA-12- Generic quest-getter.
01:10.28CIA-12- Unique ids should be numbers.
01:11.30GngskCivrock, are you running any other addons that rely on threat?
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01:11.46CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61842 10BetterQuestTracker/ (core.lua gui.lua):
01:11.46CIA-12BetterQuestTracker:
01:11.46CIA-12-Configurable fading, opacity, and width.
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01:12.06Gngskthreat 1 and 2 don't seem to coexist nicely with each other
01:12.20ArrowmasterGngsk: they arent ment to
01:12.25Arrowmastersince they cant
01:12.30AntiarcThey aren't intended to
01:12.43Gngskyeah, I figured that, just saying
01:12.48ThraeThraeBot --> WowLuaircBot, so autocomplete isn't confused anymore.
01:12.55Gngskhaving threat 2 enabled breaks like pitbull and the 2.4 recount in branches
01:13.12Gngskcourse, I guess that stuff didn't really work anyway
01:13.18ZealotOnAStickTrying Recount and Omen on PTR.
01:13.28ZealotOnAStickTons of fucking omen/threat errors.  Recount seems ok for now.
01:13.33AntiarcThere's a bit of a bug in Omen's TOC at the moment :P
01:13.42Arrowmasterdoes 2.4 recount still embed threat-1.0?
01:13.44ZealotOnAStickcommit fix?
01:13.45AntiarcRename CallbackHandler-3.0 to CallbackHandler-1.0
01:13.47GngskArrowmaster, yah
01:13.54AntiarcI will in a bit, but I'm knee-deep in other fixes ATM
01:14.07CIA-1203antiarc 072.4 * r61843 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): Omen: TOC fix
01:14.07AntiarcEh, I'll just commit those two.
01:14.32GngskAntiarc, take your time hour and 45m to raid time :P
01:14.55AntiarcHehe, I'm at 45m to raid time
01:15.02AntiarcSo development will be halting for a few hours
01:15.05AntiarcOr at least slowing down considerably
01:15.07CivrockWe're about to start here, Sunwell. ;)
01:15.27NeoTronAntiarc: does omen work at all on ptr yet?
01:15.28CIA-1203cryect 072.4 * r61844 10Recount2/ (Data.lua Tracker.lua):
01:15.28CIA-12Recount2:
01:15.28CIA-12-Moved to using LibGUIDRegistry now that :GetName works with GUID's that never have a UnitID associated w/ them (thanks Arrowmaster)
01:15.52HjalteCryect: Will Recount2 compete with Recount (Elsias build)?
01:16.01AntiarcNeoTron: Working on it. Not really ATM :P
01:16.16ArrowmasterCryect: be warned LibGUIDRegistry could break at anytime or have stuff renamed
01:16.20NeoTronAntiarc: ok. We're heading there later tonight :)
01:16.27NeoTronguess we have to L2!pull again
01:16.53CryectHjalte: I think the plan is to phase Recount out once Recount 2 has reached the potential functionality of Recount 1 via modules or whatever
01:16.56GngskAntiarc, would you suggest I test out the alpha with my guildies tonight or wait on it?
01:16.59CryectArrowmaster: Yes, I know
01:17.09CryectLike whenever it gets a real Major Version Number :-p
01:17.30Cryectthough I guess 0 is a real major version number of course
01:17.49Arrowmaster0.1 is the major version
01:18.04Cryectpfft .1 is a minor version!
01:18.13Arrowmasterno its not!
01:18.25Arrowmaster1 is
01:18.52Arrowmasterlocal lib = LibStub:NewLibrary("LibGUIDRegistry-0.1", 1) -- yes a major version of 0.1 because I'm not even sure what I'm doing
01:19.08Cryectheh well I'm used to major.minor.revision
01:19.09AntiarcGngsk: I'd love if you want to, just run BugGrabber or equivalent and feed me stack traces
01:19.23Cryector revision replaced with build
01:19.42GngskAntiarc, k
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01:22.16Chompersalliance have given up in eots, we're sitting at the spawn waiting for horde to win
01:22.41CryectAnyways now for the fun of starting to code GUI stuff that I've got my data all working and filterable
01:22.50ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: it seems to want Ace-GUI3, and doesn't find it with the embeds.
01:23.24GngskCryect, there's no GUI for recount2 atm? just stores stuff in tables?
01:23.43AntiarcZealotOnAStick: Yeah, I need to add it
01:23.49sag_ich_nichtanyone checked does the talent inspect for other fraction still work on the PTR?
01:24.06CryectBasically thats all Recount 2 does plus allow you to set filters which creates Views of Recount 2's database
01:24.45kindofabuzzKemayo you on?
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01:25.40Estilwtb someone to farm honor on my druid q
01:26.25mykxdoes secret question come with the package estil ?
01:26.53ZealotOnAStickyou want all my few hundred errors from the latest commit?
01:30.34Pkekyo|any here that's good with windows vista's security stuff?
01:30.38Pkekyo|anyone*
01:30.51sylvanaarnot that I have seen
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01:32.02RaydenUnigood with it?
01:32.09RaydenUnii can turn it all off, is that what you mean?
01:32.13Pkekyo|well
01:32.28Pkekyo|I've been an administrator user, and I shouldn't have...how to dust my tracks? :p
01:32.37RaydenUnidunno
01:32.46RaydenUniwhat do you mean you shouldn't have?
01:32.50RaydenUnisomeone else's machine?
01:32.57Pkekyo|my school's :p
01:33.08sylvanaarwatched porn on it?
01:33.23GngskCryect, tracker.lua line 169, typo where you try to access Recount instead of Recount2
01:33.25Pkekyo|nah, just installed stuff, let software/games through the windows firewall etc
01:33.33CryectGngsk: thanks!
01:33.38sylvanaardelete the event logs
01:33.44GngskCryect, np
01:33.44Pkekyo|gonna hand it in to the sysadmin to get XP on it, and I'd rather have him not know that I used to have administrator rights on it :>
01:33.47Pkekyo|sylvanaar: howto?
01:34.10sylvanaarwell, use the help to answer that
01:34.54keissany idea if its possible to get the FrameXML.log file to be more verbose ?
01:35.16CIA-1203cryect 072.4 * r61845 10Recount2/Tracker.lua:
01:35.16CIA-12Recount2:
01:35.16CIA-12-Bugfix in tracker.lua where I tried to use Recount
01:35.25Pkekyo|if there aren't any eventlogs there though....won't he be able to figure out?
01:35.39sylvanaaryes
01:35.45Pkekyo|also, if I disable the 'Administrator' user, will the user directory from C:\Users be deleted?
01:35.52sylvanaarno
01:36.18Pkekyo|so, how do I get rid of the C:\Users\Administrator dir?
01:37.17sylvanaarthe delete key
01:37.28Pkekyo|I can do that without being an admin?
01:37.33sylvanaarno
01:37.54sylvanaarif you arent an admin - theres nothing you can do
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01:38.24Pkekyo|so basicly, I'm fucked? :p
01:38.26sylvanaarinstall linux - oh wait nope..
01:38.32EricaIf you have admin rights though still, can't you just setup another account with admin rights to delete that account?
01:38.55Pkekyo|I activated the administrator user (was disabled as default), that's all I did
01:39.11Pkekyo|Erica: then there'll be another user with admin rights though?
01:39.29sylvanaarwho has admin rights on that machine?
01:39.31Ericayeah but then you can disable it when you're done
01:39.59Pkekyo|domain\administrator has admin rights, sylvanaar (that user isn't supposed to be enabled at all)
01:40.20sylvanaaryou cant log into that can you?
01:40.32Estilneat, now there are 5 Lolferal's in US realms, including myself
01:40.37Ericabut from that account then, just setup another admin account and disable the one you were using
01:40.45Estilwhy would you delete Administrator folder? :(
01:40.52Pkekyo|s/domain/local/
01:41.02RaydenUnidoes spriest mana stack if you ahve 2 in a group?
01:41.03sylvanaarright
01:41.06Pkekyo|Estil: to delete the tracks of me being an admin
01:41.10JoshBorkeyes
01:41.18Estiloh
01:41.25Estilthen you do not have to delete whole admin folder
01:41.48Pkekyo|yes I do
01:41.51Estilsec
01:41.56EstilI knew how to change permissions crap
01:41.59Pkekyo|because the local\administrator user isn't supposed to be enabled by default
01:42.01RaydenUniso it wouldn't be completely retarded to take 3 shadow priests to ZA?
01:42.06RaydenUnioh i guess we only have 2
01:42.10Pkekyo|and if the sysadmin finds it, I'm fucked :p
01:42.17sylvanaarjust make yourself an administrator
01:42.28Estilnah it's different
01:42.30sylvanaardelete the folder
01:42.50sylvanaarand disable the Administrator account
01:43.03Cryectthen disable your admin rights
01:43.17CryectYou elevated your access on your work/school machine or something?
01:43.21sylvanaarthey should have scrambled the local admin password - thier misstep
01:43.28Pkekyo|the folder won't be repopped when I use the local\admin account to disable said account
01:43.32Pkekyo|Cryect: yes :p
01:43.38Estillol gg :(
01:43.46Pkekyo|well, enabled the default admin user that isn't supposed to be enabled in the first place
01:43.58Cryectheh
01:44.01JoshBorkethat's why you rename teh default admin account
01:44.02JoshBorkebaka
01:44.05Pkekyo|sylvanaar: they didn't scramble it, because it wasn't enabled
01:44.15Recluseif you're just going to give it to someone to get rid of vista and install xp... i don't see why i would personally (in their shoes) be going through log files to do so...
01:44.21Pkekyo|JoshBorke: there'll still be some new randomnamed account that shouldn't be there
01:44.35CIA-1203antiarc 072.4 * r61846 10Omen/ (8 files in 4 dirs):
01:44.35CIA-12Omen:
01:44.35CIA-12- Externals fixed up
01:44.35CIA-12- LibSharedMedia-2.0 -> LibSharedMedia-3.0
01:44.35CIA-12- Bar label abstraction in place
01:44.37Pkekyo|Recluse: well, there's been 'incidents' with admin rights etc before :p
01:45.04Estilyou get folder access denied error right?
01:45.15Pkekyo|err
01:45.31Pkekyo|dunno, haven't tried deleting the folder yet...most likely it'll ask for admin user/password
01:45.35sylvanaardisabling the admin acount should be in your domain's group policy - you shouldnt have been able to enable it
01:45.44Estilin winxp
01:45.50Estildeleting a folder that you have no access to
01:45.55Estilsimply tells you "denied access"
01:45.57Estildoesn't ask for user or pw
01:46.07Pkekyo|sylvanaar: it's local\administrator, not domain\administrator
01:46.15sylvanaari know
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01:46.25CIA-1203endeavour * r61847 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: Magtheridon, Vashj, Underbog etc updated. (Thanks to Asole again)
01:46.43Pkekyo|basicly, we ran some computer recovery disk to get admin rights :p
01:46.48sylvanaarright
01:47.11Pkekyo|(90% of the school has admin rights atm, the other 10% most likely got busted for having admin rights and thus doesn't have them anymore)
01:47.54CryectSounds like your school has great security
01:47.55sylvanaarnot much you can do to prevent someone from reinstalling the os
01:47.56JoshBorkethey shouldn't have enabled boot access to disks
01:48.06JoshBorkedisks as in cds
01:48.12CryectHeh I love when I can boot off floppies/cds
01:48.29Pkekyo|Cryect: the sysadmin is somewhat clueless, but if he actually finds something, there's hell to pay
01:48.32sylvanaarthey should have made the recovery machines so they were not joined to the domain
01:48.32JoshBorkeif the bios is password protected and the boot order is to boot hard drive first, you're screwed
01:48.38CryectMight as well make me an admin and save me some time if you will let me boot
01:48.41Pkekyo|several people've been threatened with pressing charges
01:48.47sylvanaarso you would need a domain admin to rejoin you
01:48.51CryectJoshBorke: not if they use Win9x :-p
01:49.05Pkekyo|sylvanaar: we used a burned CD to do it
01:49.06CryectNot that anyone uses Win9x anymore
01:49.07JoshBorkeif they use Win9X they deserve what they get
01:49.11Estillol 9x
01:49.16AntiarcUhhhhh
01:49.20AntiarcWhat did vhaar do to Threat
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01:49.29Cryecthe vhaared it
01:49.33Recluselol
01:49.34Pkekyo|Antiarc: he sexxed it
01:49.41AntiarcIt's broken into a million tiny pieces right now and I'm raiding in 10 minutes >:[
01:49.50Cryecthaha
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01:50.00Pkekyo|revert?
01:50.03JoshBorkethat's what you get for updating :-P
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01:50.20sylvanaarah, its been modernized
01:50.21EstilPke: at the welcome screen when you boot XP, do three finger salute twice
01:50.28Estilthen input the admin pw
01:50.34Estilthen you log into the "administrator" itself
01:50.45AntiarcWell, except he neglected to update embeds.xml :|
01:50.45Pkekyo|Estil: this is vista
01:50.52Estiloh vista
01:51.25Estilhttp://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9001970
01:51.30Estilhope that helps
01:51.35sylvanaarput pc outside - start car - drive over it
01:51.51Pkekyo|Estil: I allready know how to do it. that's my problem :p
01:52.00Estil:(
01:52.30sylvanaarAre you able to access your schools network resources? file shares etc?
01:52.32Pkekyo|basicly, if I can't cover my tracks and they find anything, I'll most likely be expelled, and they might even press charges
01:52.36laggeranyone got a good utility function to convert a table into a string and back?
01:52.45Pkekyo|sylvanaar: only what I'm supposed to as a student user
01:52.53Silowyihey on the adds for Akama
01:52.57Silowyithey seem to ignore our tanks
01:53.03Silowyinot just the defenders, but all the adds
01:53.06Silowyiany ideas?
01:53.32sylvanaarjust plug the hard disk into the electrical outlet
01:53.46sylvanaaruse gas and a match
01:53.53Diaoexpelled? what kind of school
01:53.54sylvanaarbe creative
01:54.03Pkekyo|Diao: what you mean?
01:54.10Ericatake the discs out and play frisbee... it's fun
01:54.11Pkekyo|sylvanaar: meh, then I'd have to pay for it
01:54.16sylvanaarwell, its clearly not technical
01:54.23Diaoa university?
01:54.27Pkekyo|nah
01:54.30sylvanaarPkekyo| sounds like you will pay for it if you dont
01:54.39Pkekyo|valid point
01:54.41Estil:(
01:54.52Pkekyo|Diao: it's something like the last year of highschool + some of college...something like that :p
01:55.02Pkekyo|very un-american, in other words
01:55.12Diaoah
01:56.07Estilthis is sad
01:56.10EstilI'm still the best geared Lolferals
01:56.14Estilout of all the US Lolferals
01:56.52Pkekyo|Diao: I think it's something like last year of highschool + 2nd and 3rd year of college...doesn't make much sense trying to explain it to foreigners
01:57.27Diaoeh
01:57.43Diaoi know multiple educational systems :)
01:57.49sylvanaaravion has all these parts to it - it seems like it should do something
01:57.52Diaomostly the asian ones though ;p
01:57.56Pkekyo|it's zeh norwegian one, if familliar with it
01:58.16EstilKorean education system is massive fail
01:58.23Pkekyo|o'rly?
01:58.31Estilyes it is
01:58.36Pkekyo|elaborate?
01:58.53Diaolol
01:58.58Estilit's massive fail because you are pretty much forced to attend uh external "classes"
01:59.08Pkekyo|examples?
01:59.10Estilaka "hakwon" in Korea, where you go there to learn stuff ahead of time
01:59.16Estiland it has nothing to do with school
01:59.21Hjalte[Ammo]: Necronomicon2\Modules\Healthstone.lua:116: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") - I'm getting that error sometimes, usually when in battlegrounds.
01:59.22Diaoeh
01:59.25Pkekyo|forced to?
01:59.26Diaoit's the same in all of asia pretty much
01:59.29Estilpretty much
01:59.31Estilbecause if you don't
01:59.31Diaoif you don't go
01:59.33Diaoyou will fall behind
01:59.34Estilthese things happen:
01:59.35Diaocompared to others ;P
01:59.42Diaothey're basically "cram schools"
01:59.55Estilexcept you begin this all the way from preschool
02:00.02Estiluntil you graduate from high school
02:00.13Pkekyo|basicly, they don't teach you what you need to know to pass? ^.-
02:00.21Estilthey do
02:00.27Estilbut Korean society is extremely competitive
02:00.35Estilthey force and expect you to know far more than what school teaches you
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02:00.57Pkekyo|and if you don't, you fail?
02:01.07Estilpretty much
02:01.09kenlyricgee, what a concept
02:01.19Pkekyo|well that's fucking retarded lol
02:01.35Estilan average high school student in Korea
02:01.41Estilthat wants to go to a good university
02:01.51Estilgoes to school at 6 AM, and comes back home at about 11 PM or 12 AM
02:02.04Estilthen spends few more hours studying after arriving
02:02.05Estilnot a joke
02:02.34Pkekyo|like I said, fucktarded
02:02.46Pkekyo|anyways, how to not get expelled? :p
02:02.56Estilfeign ignorance!
02:03.00Estil"it's not me"
02:03.09Pkekyo|won't work, personal laptops :<
02:03.16Estil:(
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02:03.48Antiarc2008/02/17 19:02:45-10082-x1]: AceOO-2.0-38641 (Ace2):734: AceComm-2.0: AceComm-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 - AceComm-2.0-60961 (Threat-1.0):2309: in main chunk
02:03.51Antiarcsomeone explain that to me prz.
02:03.55AntiarcBecause uh
02:03.58AntiarcI don't see how that broke
02:04.06Cryectmagic?
02:04.15Arrowmasterwow aceoo is that old?
02:04.17CryectDoes it require AceEvent-2.0 embedded?
02:04.30AntiarcYes, which it is
02:04.33Cryectbut i can't imagine its no longe rpart of the object
02:04.39AntiarcI mean, I didn't change anything, and it's just falling over now
02:04.52Cryectcurse the rabbit
02:04.56Cryectno matter how nimble he is
02:06.22Pkekyo|http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6784/iraqiphotossy1.jpg =D
02:07.07vithoswhy is bugsack playing its default "fatality" sound at like 10x normal volume while i log in?  fuck
02:07.30vithosthat's not even the sound i have it set to use :/
02:07.55Arrowmasterprobably because bugsack hasnt loaded yet to know your settings?
02:07.59RaydenUniZA is interesting without a mage
02:08.43vithosprobably, but either way the volume is ear/headphones damaging
02:08.58GngskArrowmaster/Antiarc, http://gngsk.pastey.net/82520
02:10.31sylvanaarAntiarc did you exit the game?
02:13.03sag_ich_nichtgod damn it finally i got my 10 games
02:13.42ArrowmasterGngsk: i blame Antiarc for that one
02:15.29AntiarcThanks Gngsk
02:15.31Gngsknp
02:15.32AntiarcI'll fix 'er up
02:15.36Gngsksounds good
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02:15.54Arrowmasterim wondering where the number came from though since guids are strings
02:16.00Gngskalso getting a bar.lua error on line 16
02:16.04Gngsklemme post it up real quick
02:17.02GngskAntiarc, http://gngsk.pastey.net/82521
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02:18.54Gngskalso a suggestion about the overall UI. Make the width of the frame by default a bit larger than the 3 icons at the bottom. Tough to see the handle to resize the frame as it is currently.
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02:22.46Gngskantiarc, new one http://gngsk.pastey.net/82522
02:23.42Gngskthat one happened when I moused over a unit my druid friend was killing
02:23.51Gngskdidn't target it
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02:25.49Gngskoh also, prolly more likely the problem, we switched from a reg 5 man group to a 25 man raid and we were the only 2 in range, only one other beside us had omen2 enabled I believe
02:27.24AntiarcThanks Gngsk :D
02:27.59Gngsknp man, will keep messin' around as you update
02:28.58AntiarcThanks, I appreciate it
02:29.07GngskI appreciate your work more!
02:29.37WobWork~seen nogudnik
02:29.39purlnogudnik <n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 105d 6h 35m 35s ago, saying: 'RaydenUni: right, I do this all the time with patches'.
02:29.52WobWorkwow. 4 months
02:29.55RaydenUniwhat?
02:30.11WobWorkPING FROM THE PAST
02:30.20WobWork<cue dramatic music>
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02:31.51CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61848 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Hook dialogs to provide Quixote_Quest_Abandoned event.
02:31.55RaydenUniNalorakk should never resist Taunt...
02:32.21durcynRaydenUni: sure he should, if your tank has crap hit rating
02:32.24CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61849 10BetterQuestTracker/gui.lua: BetterQuestTracker: Truncate overlong fontstrings.
02:34.47KemayoI didn't realize how easy it would be to more or less duplicate QuestsFu's tracker without tablet...
02:35.54Tem|AFKthe hardest part of ui design is knowing what you want it to look like
02:35.59Tem|AFKimplementation is simple
02:36.38KemayoMy preconceptions of UI difficulty were set when I first looked at writing it in XML two years ago, and decided not to bother. :)
02:36.52Kemayo(As, like, the first thing I ever tried to do with addons.)
02:37.28Tem|AFKheh
02:37.44Tem|AFKXML for ui in wow can be pretty daunting
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02:44.10Tem|AFKzomg
02:44.12Tem|AFKJob's Done
02:44.15Tem|AFK<3
02:44.37CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61850 10BetterQuestTracker/gui.lua:
02:44.37CIA-12BetterQuestTracker:
02:44.37CIA-12- Allow wrapping, if requested. (Set text justifications to make this not look uggo.)
02:47.56Kemayo2.4 is supposed to still be another month or so away, right?
02:48.09Tem|AFKat least
02:48.31Tem|AFKthey haven't buffed and then reverted a class yet
02:48.40Tem|AFKso we're talking at least a month
02:48.45Gngskheh
02:48.49Gngskprolly longer though, yeah
02:48.51KemayoCynic.
02:49.08AntiarcI've heard that 3 months is the planned PTR cycle
02:49.13AntiarcLifetime, whatever
02:49.27Tem|AFKI don't know where you got that, but it sounds reasonable
02:49.35AntiarcGuildmate has a man on the inside :)
02:49.54HjalteAntiarc: 3 months?!
02:49.58AntiarcYeah
02:49.59CIA-1203benumbed * r61851 10DaPortrait/Core.lua:
02:49.59CIA-12DaPortrait:
02:49.59CIA-12- Reset animations OnHide
02:50.17AntiarcGiven the combat log revamp, the entirely new content, and the fact that they're rolling out more 2.4 changes to PTR, that's reasonable
02:50.31AntiarcThey're doing a tiered PTR release
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02:50.43AntiarcSo expect pretty large changes over the next 4-6 weeks would be my guess
02:50.45kebinusanMy guess was first part of may
02:51.06kebinusansince blizz likes to draw out these ptr phases lately
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02:51.22kebinusanthey've gotten longer and longer with longer breaks inbetween patches since release
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02:54.41CryectThere is no tag compiler for Ace3 right?
02:55.23CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61852 10LibQuixote-2.0/ (. LibQuixote-2.0.lua):
02:55.23CIA-12LibQuixote-2.0:
02:55.23CIA-12- Add a fallback for GetQuestLink if not on 2.4. (Not as good, not locale-independent, but should work.)
02:55.23CIA-12- Add logtemplate.
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03:16.28aestil2.4 is gonna be on the PTR for 3 months.... wtf?
03:17.22Aeyan3 -months-?
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03:17.24AeyanDamn
03:17.31ulicit's a 2 new instance, and grip load of quest, gonna take a long time to test well.
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03:18.47Cryectespecially considering how often the client currently crashes
03:19.06CivrockHrmm, my ElkBuffBars are showing "Mouse-over" when I mouseover the buffs on the PTR.
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03:21.22ckknightaestil: link?
03:21.39aestilno link.  rumors.
03:22.03aestilima transfer to cenarian expedition next week.
03:22.12aestilwith my SP, and my wifes holy priest.
03:22.21aestil!c darkspear aestil
03:22.26aestilhow does that work again?
03:22.36Kivin!c us darkspear aestil
03:22.39WoWLuaircBotKivin: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8041 HP; 8910 Mana; 188 mana regen; 70 mp5; 84 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 954 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1008); 164 shadow dmg (1118); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 830 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 22:31:53 2008 EST ]]
03:22.48aestil!c us darkspear katsura
03:22.51WoWLuaircBotaestil: Katsura, Level 70 Human Priest (23/38/0). 7751 HP; 10740 Mana; 481 mana regen; 199 mp5; 838 +spell dmg; 2177 +heal; 4.98% dodge;[[ TBR: 608 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a2zcf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35c8he ][ Updated: Sun Feb 17 22:32:05 2008 EST ]]
03:23.00ckknightCryect: technically DogTag is a tag compiler and doesn't require anything but LibStub
03:23.30aestildogtag is becoming very robust ckknight, what inspired you?
03:23.46ckknightLisp?
03:23.51ckknight:-P
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03:26.07Tullernot enough (
03:26.19sag_ich_nichtdamn you Tuller
03:26.21sag_ich_nichtbeat me to it
03:26.39Tulleralso I'm pretty sure you could do all of dogtag in ()
03:26.57EstilI require 75k honor.
03:27.01CIA-1203whitetooth * r61853 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua):
03:27.01CIA-12RatingBuster:
03:27.01CIA-12- Fixed profile switching
03:27.03sag_ich_nicht[] looks cooler tho
03:27.04ckknightTuller: I could change the syntax to use () instead of []
03:27.17sag_ich_nichti go to bed now
03:27.18Tullerit still wouldn't be lisp :)
03:27.20sag_ich_nichtnight
03:27.48ckknightTuller: it'd be Lisp-esque
03:27.52Tullerlies
03:28.00Tulleras in I have not stared at the grammar
03:28.09CIA-1203ellipsis * r61854 10PitBull_Prat/Prat.lua: PitBull_Prat: properly recycle frames so the rest of PitBull doesn't break.
03:28.09ckknightyou know you want (/ CurHP MaxHP)
03:28.10ckknightoh yea
03:28.11sag_ich_nichtwait let me repeat that
03:28.12sag_ich_nichtnight
03:28.13ckknight:-P
03:28.18ckknightmmm... reverse polish notation
03:28.28Cryectheh RPN is so much easier to compile for
03:28.38sag_ich_nichtgah you guys suck
03:28.43ckknighttrue, but DogTag handles [CurHP / MaxHP] fine
03:28.44Tullertrue
03:28.46sag_ich_nicht-e
03:28.53ckknightno complications
03:29.00ckknightand proper order of operations
03:29.11Tullergimmie a grammar
03:29.18Cryectoh no
03:29.27Tuller:)
03:29.36Cryectgive him side effects!
03:30.23aestilhey, ckknight did your frame recycleing commits fix that thing where you'd get icons stuck on frames?
03:30.37ckknightyea, I finally fixed that
03:30.42AntiarcYaay
03:30.50AntiarcThat probably fixed the combo point thing I bitched to you about, too
03:30.52ckknightand I'm _hoping_ that it also fixes auras covering a whole frame
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03:33.38ckknightI'm revamping Aura for 2.4, also
03:33.52ckknightpretty much a carefully planned rewrite
03:34.27ckknightsimplified the code a lot, more streamlined
03:34.30aestilso, that aura doesn't like, break during raid buff/debuff situations?
03:34.39ckknightyep.
03:34.49aestilthats a good plan.  you may actually need to raid someday.
03:34.54ckknightyea
03:34.59aestilin which case you'd hate that aura breaks.
03:35.17ckknightI got it so that you can register a new frame type, e.g. "AuraFrame", which has all the parts you need inside it
03:35.24ckknightwhich makes it a lot more efficient for frame manipulation
03:35.30ckknightcause you don't need to recreate the innards each time
03:35.34aestilyou'd be able to move it? offset it from the unit frame?
03:35.36ckknightas well as adding some nice security
03:35.47ckknightaestil: I haven't done layout stuff yet
03:35.54ckknightI just need to do item buffs and layout
03:35.55SunTsu.o0( No more combo points all over the frames? Too sad, I found that quite funny )
03:35.57ckknightthen it'll be done
03:36.06aestilearly request, need to be able to move the aura frame.
03:36.23Ellipsisdon't worry aestil
03:36.25ckknightthat falls under layout
03:36.30Ellipsisall your layout stuff from altaura will get in
03:36.31CIA-1203Octane666 * r61855 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc):
03:36.31CIA-12SpamMeNot:
03:36.31CIA-12- Users can now add their own words to the spam filter. Doing so will disable the auto-report feature to prevent abuse.
03:36.31CIA-12- No longer possible to configure SpamMeNot to whisper people to let them know their details are being looked up.
03:36.35aestilEllipsis: ok.
03:36.44ckknightI plan on making it a lot cleaner for layout
03:36.49ckknightas well as providing more control
03:36.55CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61856 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua:
03:36.55CIA-12LibQuixote-2.0:
03:36.55CIA-12-Some 2.3 fixes. (Ew.)
03:36.55CIA-12-Fix short tags always being blank.
03:36.56CIA-12-Alphabetize zone iteration.
03:37.06Hobby!points 1512
03:37.07XinhuanYou cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).
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03:37.14Hobby!rating 1512
03:37.15Xinhuan1512 rating gives 357(5s), 314(3s) and 271(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
03:37.24Estil!points 1000
03:37.25Xinhuan1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating.
03:37.32Estilugh 2259
03:38.09aestilwhat was with all the meta layout commits?  what did that change?
03:38.27Ellipsisdon't worry your pretty little head about it
03:38.30Ellipsisit's just internal code stuff
03:38.47AntiarcI think that Ellipsis has this Mouth of Sauron thing going on
03:38.50AntiarcIt's pretty amusing :P
03:38.51aestilmy head is pretty.
03:38.52Ellipsis:P
03:38.57SunTsuckknight: While you seem to be here and wide awake ;) You wouldn't have an idea what breaks mobmap/cartographer? Mobmap normally shows positions of mobs and drops on the world map, but some time ago it stopped working with carto. I doesn't seem to be an cartographer plugin, but plain cart itself. With mapster there's no such problem
03:39.08ckknightMobMap?
03:39.10ckknight:-P
03:39.23SunTsuckknight: Yeah
03:39.30SunTsuI kind of like it
03:39.32ckknightdon't know it
03:39.34ckknightsorry
03:39.43WobWorkIt'll mob your map
03:39.47ckknightoh noes
03:39.51aestili hope that somehow, 2.4 fixes my wierd eepanels issue.
03:39.58aestilis there a new eepanels type mod coming?
03:40.01WobWorkaestil: by magic? =)
03:40.06Ellipsiswell his issue is magic
03:40.12Ellipsisunless there's something he's not telling us
03:40.42aestili'll send you my entire addons and wtf files.
03:40.47SunTsuIt's some kind of in-game database with NPCs, mobs, recipes, fishes, and all kind of gathering
03:40.49durcynaestil: kgpanels iirc
03:40.50aestilthen you can test it Ellipsis
03:40.56aestilwhaaaaa?
03:41.00aestilwho is kg?
03:41.01Ellipsisscrew that aestil
03:41.06WobWorkkagaro?
03:41.07aestiland when did he start making panels?
03:41.08EllipsisI don't wanna run your addons :P
03:41.08ckknightaestil: should I make an art addon?
03:41.09Aeyankagaro
03:41.09ckknight:-P
03:41.25aestilckknight: i don't even use art.  just scripts on frames essentially.
03:41.49aestilno, i just want a small 'about' credit on the other mod when you make it.
03:42.21aestilkgpanels is not on the WAU
03:42.24aestilis it in branches?
03:42.30EllipsisI think it's in branches
03:42.44AeyanYeah, branches
03:43.04AeyanLatest revision is non-functional though, I believe
03:43.07ckknightback to movie
03:43.10syerenckknight, new Pitbull Auras is sounding very nice :D
03:43.28MentalPowercan someone confirm something for me
03:43.29MentalPower./run collectgarbage("setpause") collectgarbage("setstepmul")
03:43.34MentalPowershould hang yer WoW
03:43.49MentalPowerlike if it was in an infinite loop
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03:45.12aestilckknight: what movie?
03:45.22ckknightInto The Wild
03:45.36aestilthe eddie vedder soundtrack yes?
03:45.58ulic!ap 345
03:45.58WoWLuaircBotulic: Arena points from a rating of 345 is, 2v2: 68, 3v3: 79, 5v5: 89
03:45.58Xinhuan345 arena points require 1501(5s), 1542(3s) and 1592(2s) team rating.
03:46.03ulic!ar 345
03:46.03WoWLuaircBotulic: Arena rating from 345 points is, 2v2: 1592, 3v3: 1542, 5v5: 1501
03:46.04Xinhuan345 rating gives 89(5s), 79(3s) and 68(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
03:46.10ulichow many do we need?
03:47.12Ellipsisyeah aestil
03:47.45aestili know that only because we sold it for a while.
03:48.01CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61857 10BetterQuestTracker/ (. core.lua gui.lua): BetterQuestTracker: Make work in 2.3.
03:48.02aestili might go buy sins of a solar empire.
03:48.04aestilis it good?
03:48.59aestilbetterquesttracker, is it better than nquestlog?
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03:51.37Gngskaestil, if it was named BestQuestTracker would you have any doubts?
03:51.45aestilno.
03:51.49aestiltherein lies the quandry.
03:52.17aestilso, no one has sins of a solar empire?
03:52.25Ironhandcan anyone tell me more about the current status of TinyTip? it broke for me last update; can't find info on forums/wiki and the changelog just says "You'll get your extra features back in TinyTipModules" (which I can't find)
03:53.33Cryectaestil, Sins is great
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03:54.38aestilwill it run good on my kinda medicore laptop now?
03:54.45aestilit runs wow at 19x12 pretty well.
03:55.14CIA-1203wobin * r61858 10Xparky/ (Locale/en_US.lua Xparky.lua): Xparky - Reverted the legoblock linking. Not a good implementation, we'll just stick to sticking it to any frame available.
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03:55.24AeyanIronhand: Thrae stopped developing TinyTip on the Ace SVN for a long time
03:55.37AeyanI guess he's putting his newer builds back on it now
03:55.53AeyanI'd just revert until it's back to what you wanted
03:56.07Ironhandwell, this is not SVN, it broke from a WAU update
03:56.13keissbut TinyTip still works on live
03:56.24AeyanWAU pulls it from the SVN
03:56.32Ironhandkeiss: is that true for you even after last update?
03:57.09sylvanaarEllipsis thanks for the fix
03:57.11HobbyIronhand: I'm on rev 41188 without issues, but haven't updated in a day or so
03:57.13keissIronhand: i think i saw someone doing something with the trunk version like an hour ago , havent updated to it ... dunno
03:57.16Hobbyif that helps
03:57.38AeyanI'd just go back to http://files.wowace.com/TinyTip/TinyTip-r41188.5.zip for a while, Ironhand
03:57.46Ironhandthanks Aeyan, I'll try that
03:57.49kenlyricno, he pulled tinytip tonight.
03:58.02IronhandHobby: it seems to have made a bit of a jump - at 61840 now
03:58.16HobbyYeah, since he hasn't commited to the SVN in so long
03:58.29AeyanYeah, he developed it on his gcode for a long time
03:58.30HobbyEach commit ups the rev #, from any addon
03:58.43sylvanaarso, why is he moving back?
03:58.51AeyanI dunno
03:58.57HobbyLow tax rates?
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04:00.31AeyanMight have just wanted more testers
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04:01.11aestilcowtip just recently became fully featured enough to give me no reason to use Tinytip.
04:01.20aestilI think, i probably wouldn't use the aura stuff in tinytip.
04:01.23Antiarchttp://hubpages.com/hub/Warcraft-Omen-Games <-- what
04:01.30aestilalthough, that reminds me. ckknight cowtip with auras, yes?
04:02.07Cryectaestil: Sins was demoed to PC mags on a 4 year old laptop :-p
04:02.08Ironhandaestil: thanks for the tip, maybe that's a suitable replacement... mind you I do like the aura display for example to figure out which of 5 mobs escaped my thunder clap....
04:02.26AeyanHaha, antiarc
04:02.32aestilIronhand: you can do something like that using dogtags.
04:02.34Obelixprimehas there been any inroads into a combat log like swstats or along those lines for the ptr?
04:02.45aestilcyrect.... i'll go to best buy right now then.
04:02.46aestilbrb.
04:03.06Cryectin quite the rush?
04:03.17aestilAntiarc: that page you linked is lol.
04:03.31AeyanI prefer CowTip for the moment, but I've heard good things about TipTac too if you want auras
04:03.34AntiarcWarcraft's Omen is the threat meter indicator of a character. It is this meter that helps the opposition decide on which player to assault next, depending on the threat each character faces and the skill they use.
04:03.40CryectBut yeah it plays decent apparently on my GF's computer using a video card below minimum reqs
04:03.43AntiarcOmen's so popular, even mobs use it to decide who to kill!
04:03.52aestilAntiarc: also, tanks are in the most danger.
04:04.43AeyanBack off threat bars
04:04.48AeyanWhat an awesome feature
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04:13.34RaydenUniwoot bracers off Nalorakk
04:15.09WobWork~logs
04:15.09purli guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
04:17.34RaydenUniwhat's the most spell dmg you can get from a [blue] yellow gem?
04:18.12syeren4?
04:18.25Arrowmasterim loving this
04:18.33RaydenUniso not worth it for the +2 bonus
04:18.36Arrowmasteryour raidleader/mt is going at it on vent
04:18.39Arrowmasterour
04:19.09Arrowmasterabout how everybodys an asshole
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04:21.10nathanawhi.  does anyone know if it's possible to combine two frames in pitbull?  I'd like the tot to show in the same 'frame' as target, so that I can have the target's buffs/debuffs below the tot frame
04:22.54AeyanNo, but you could edit the aura positioning to be way down below the target frame if you  wanted to go through the trouble =P
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04:23.38nathanawhow would i go about that?
04:25.22AeyanI'd have to download Pitbull on this laptop
04:25.29AeyanDon't remember what file it was offhand
04:25.34nathanawok. so it's in a file
04:26.19nathanawwould it be in a file in the WTF dir or in the addons dir?
04:26.23AeyanAddons
04:27.54RaydenUnican you do heroic before 70?
04:27.59AeyanNo
04:28.06RaydenUniwhy not?
04:28.16AeyanBecause you have to be 70 =P
04:28.20AeyanThat's sorta the idea
04:28.21NightHawkTheSane^^
04:28.24RaydenUniyou don't have to be 70 to get the key
04:28.31NightHawkTheSaneyou have to be 70 to zone in to a heroic instance
04:28.35nathanawany idea what file it could possibly be in, Aeyan?
04:28.48NightHawkTheSanebesides, who the fuck would take a sub-70 anyway?
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04:29.06RaydenUnithat's not the point
04:29.15RaydenUni:P
04:29.29AeyanI think you need to edit the aura positions stuff in the ABF file of Layouts, nathanaw, but honestly I'm not sure without it here in front of me
04:29.51NightHawkTheSanethe point is, level 70 is a physical restriction on the zone, like any other level restriction on any other zone. end of story.
04:30.05AeyanActually, nevermind, that doesn't sound right either
04:30.19nathanawya, it's not in there.  layouts don't control the aura positions.  i really wish they did
04:32.56ThraeIf there's anything wrong with TinyTip v0.2, it's WAU's fault
04:33.23Aeyannathanaw: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9136.msg149745#msg149745
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04:35.28nathanawarg. i suppose this will change the aura positions for all frames though
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04:35.56AeyanYeah, it will actually
04:36.14AeyanWell
04:37.00AeyanYou could edit the positioning code for split auras and leave the non-split stuff alone
04:37.04AeyanAnd try it that way
04:37.33AeyanSee my comment above about wanting to go through the trouble, hehe
04:37.56nathanawhehe
04:38.06nathanawideally auras would be part of the layouts
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04:38.29nathanawor, i could have target and target of target in the same frame
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04:40.55aestilis the new combat log like, completely done?
04:42.32nathanawwell, i think im going to try to find somewhere else to put my target of target frame
04:43.20nathanawthanks for your help, Aeyan
04:43.33AeyanSorry I couldn't do more
04:43.35AeyanGood luck with that
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04:51.10RaydenUnihttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/130.html
04:51.12RaydenUnidon't get it
04:52.17WobWorkThe Ring
04:52.19WobWorkmovie
04:52.24WobWorkJapanese horror
04:52.33RaydenUnioh
04:52.54WobWorkThe donald interlude is a bit random though
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04:53.45Xinhuandonald interlude goes back to a previous comic hehe
04:54.08Xinhuanthe parody of the wow TV commercials one i think
04:55.47WobWorkyeah, but still random within the context
04:55.56WobWorkalthough I didn't see the movie, so it may be a reference to that
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04:56.38Xinhuanthe pun comic from last week was pretty good hehe
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05:04.49ulicar 1437
05:05.01ulic!ar 1437
05:05.02WoWLuaircBotulic: Arena rating from 1437 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2516
05:05.02Xinhuan1437 rating gives 330(5s), 290(3s) and 250(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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05:05.27CIA-12MobileVault:
05:05.27CIA-12- Update locale koKR
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05:06.27ulic!ar 345
05:06.27WoWLuaircBotulic: Arena rating from 345 points is, 2v2: 1592, 3v3: 1542, 5v5: 1501
05:06.27Xinhuan345 rating gives 89(5s), 79(3s) and 68(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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05:06.51CIA-12Recount2:
05:06.51CIA-12-Yawn, must remember Lua doesn't define locals by default
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05:06.55CIA-12AtlasLoot:
05:06.55CIA-12- Check if the module is loaded before wishlist item jump.
05:07.14AntiarcHaha, Cryect
05:07.25AntiarcCAPTAIN CRYECT
05:07.28AntiarcHE'S OUR HERO
05:07.34AntiarcGONNA TAKE GLOBAL NAMESPACE POLLUTION DOWN TO ZERO
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05:08.23CryectKinda got used to Python everything is local unless you defined it as global :-p
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05:16.53Kemayoaestil: BetterQuestTracker refers to better than the default, alas.  Since I only started writing it earlier today as my test addon for LibQuixote-2.0, it's probably not up to nQuestLog's standards yet.
05:17.26CIA-1203whitetooth * r61862 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
05:17.26CIA-12StatLogicLib:
05:17.26CIA-12- Babble-Spell-2.2 compatible
05:17.47aestilKemayo: i was mostly making fun of the name. :)
05:17.58aestilKemayo: as in 'better than what'
05:18.00aestil:)
05:18.33KemayoI shall, of course, rename it to "BetterThanTheDefaultQuestTrackerBecauseAestilBitched".
05:18.39Kemayo:D
05:18.47aestilthanks.
05:19.07AntiarcI can't wait to see the module frame names
05:19.11aestili contribute in my small way to the addon comunitiy
05:19.21AntiarcBetterThanTheDefaultQuestTrackerBecauseAestilBitched_DailyQuest_ScrollFrame
05:20.20aestil>BetterThanTheDefaultQuestTrackerBecauseAestilBitched_DailyQuest_PopUp_CommentSection_WowheadComments_ScrollFrame
05:20.31KemayoAnd then when further complaints come in... BetterThanTheDefaultQuestTrackerBecauseAestilBitched_DailyQuestsSoFarBecauseAestilBitched_ScrollFrame
05:23.34EllipsisI need an addon idea
05:23.43Ellipsisquick, so I can reserve the name BecauseAestilBitched
05:24.26durcynaestil, you're gonna be famous
05:24.45Ellipsiswait, duh, what am I thinking? of course it will be a chat addon! :P
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05:26.37ulicunit frames too right?
05:26.55Pkekyo|hmm, school in 1.5hrs
05:27.01Pkekyo|should stay awake for one more then
05:28.21aestili have mail in my inbox preventing me from transfering.
05:28.23aestilfail.
05:28.52Pkekyo|:p
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05:41.07aestilI transfered my priest while they are raidign in BT so no one will notice :)
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05:46.53aestilAntiarc: old guilds 3rd pull on council is a 14% wipe.  they'll probably kill them tonight.  
05:47.17Xinhuanyou transfered?
05:47.23aestili'm in process.
05:47.27aestilbut i don't raid anymore.
05:47.30aestilno time.  too tired.
05:47.30Xinhuanwhere from, where to?
05:47.39aestildarkspear -> RP server
05:47.41aestildruid server.
05:47.49Xinhuanboth pve servers i assume?
05:48.01aestilPvP -> PvE
05:48.13Xinhuanwhy do you want to transfer though?
05:48.17Xinhuanyou could, just stop raiding
05:48.27aestilbored.  tired of a lot of people.
05:48.38aestilwant to level lowbies without getting ganked.
05:48.56aestili'll leave a bunch of characters on the PvP server.  have a rogue and pally as well.
05:49.35Antiarcaestil: Heh, that's a lot better than us. We keep sucking at Council.
05:50.08aestilsounds like a slightly more complicated maulgar.  pull is technical.
05:50.53AntiarcThere's a lot of indicental damage
05:50.59AntiarcBut yeah, it's maulgar-esque
05:51.06aestilwtb better healers?
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05:51.23durcynbest summary i ever saw of it was "THE SUPERBOWL OF NOT STANDING IN THINGS"
05:52.47Xinhuanthe fights are "hexlord-ish and moroes-ish" in a sense, only difference is that the bosses aren't CC-able
05:52.58CIA-1203whitetooth * r61863 10RatingBuster/ (6 files):
05:52.58CIA-12RatingBuster:
05:52.58CIA-12- Updated zhTW locale
05:53.29Shirikmpdelbuono * r9809284 SomeAddon/ (10859 files):
05:53.36Shirik- Updated code
05:53.40Shirik>.>
05:54.27AntiarcNah, our healers are fantastic
05:54.41AntiarcWe just have people that stand in consc/blizzard too long
05:54.50AntiarcThen get smacked with a Divine Wrath or Envenom and keel over
05:54.52Xinhuando you counterspell the divine wraths?
05:55.00AntiarcI'm DTing them, yeah
05:55.04Xinhuanif you don't, i recommend so
05:55.36Xinhuani just have a single mage CS heals during melee immune, and every other mage CSing divine wraths
05:55.55Xinhuansaves a lot of deaths
05:56.38Temoh jesus
05:56.46Temso, I just looked inside AtlasLoot
05:57.02Xinhuancode is terrible, but the GUI is decent
05:57.03Temthis file is 3000 lines long
05:57.12Temand it defines a new table on every one of them
05:57.23AntiarcThreat-1.0 is 2k lines
05:57.25AntiarcJust the core
05:57.26Antiarc:V
05:57.40Temand -2.0?
05:57.43Birdemanirecount 2 only for 2.4?
05:57.51Antiarc875 lines
05:58.00TemAntiarc, that's more better :)
05:58.05AntiarcHehe, yeah
05:58.09aestilnice.
05:58.14AntiarcI factored some stuff out into another file, though
05:58.17aestilare there alot of modules for threat 2 then?
05:58.19AntiarcBut a lot of it was able to go away
05:58.26AntiarcNo more than 1.0
05:58.39TemBirdemani, it could be run in 2.3, I suppose, but since it uses the new combat events, it wouldn't do anything in 2.3
05:58.43Antiarc1.0 with embeds is 1.27mb
05:58.52Antiarc2.0 with embeds is 284k
05:58.56aestilace3?
05:59.02Antiarcyeah
05:59.08AntiarcPlus no need for babble
05:59.10aestilnice. i already run ace3 standalone
05:59.12aestili saw that.
05:59.17Xinhuanthe reduction in size isn't really due to ace2 vs ace3 i think, its more due to babble
05:59.21Xinhuanisn't it?
05:59.24AntiarcBabble was about 660k
05:59.32CryectBirdemani: Yes, Recount 2 is for 2.4+ only
05:59.44AntiarcSo I still shaved off ~400k
05:59.44aestilI was just saying, i'm already eating all of ace3 for routes and gathermate and bettermap
05:59.53aestilso, a few more adds using it will be nice.
05:59.58XinhuanHandyNotes is coming soon ;d
06:00.01aestilbaggins is getting an ace3 update, yes?
06:00.05aestilwhat is handynotes?
06:00.13AntiarcThe new version of Omen is Ace3 as well
06:00.14Xinhuan_Notes-ish standalone
06:00.14AntiarcSo yeah
06:00.45Xinhuani've got a few plugins as showpieces to showcase what can be done with it
06:01.49aestilmostly instance maps.
06:01.58aestili dont' use notes for anything
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06:02.10Xinhuanoh its handy for a few small notes
06:02.17Xinhuanlike which auch instance is which
06:02.18Xinhuanhehe
06:02.46Xinhuanthe core code is only about 250 lines or so
06:03.30CIA-1203ckknight * r61864 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix bug with event checking and invalid arguments
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06:07.53Pkekyo|hmm, 20min until I've gotta go to school...I'm off to bed
06:07.55Pkekyo|g'nite all
06:08.29Antiarchttp://www.vosgeschocolate.com/product/bacon_exotic_candy_bar/exotic_candy_bars
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06:11.18ckknightAntiarc: lulz
06:13.32aestilEllipsis: did you transfer yet?
06:15.31Xinhuanafk
06:15.42aestilSWEET. I am made of fail.
06:16.09Xinhuanwell before i afk
06:16.13Xinhuanall of you should go do this in game
06:16.20Xinhuan/run ShowUIPanel(RatingMenuFrame)
06:16.23Xinhuancya!
06:17.56CIA-1203ckknight * r61866 10Quartz/ (filelist.wau quartzlod.bat quartzlod.sh): Quartz - add Pet module to the wau file and the lod scripts
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06:20.19CIA-1203ckknight * r61867 10PitBull/ (filelist.wau pitbulllod.bat pitbulllod.sh): PitBull - add ReadyCheckIcon to wau file and lod scripts
06:20.52ckknightAntiarc:
06:21.02ckknightdid you change Threat-1.0 to use Babble-3.0?
06:22.19Antiarcvhaar did
06:23.22ckknighthe broke PitBull
06:23.31ckknightsince it doesn't fall back, apparently
06:23.32Antiarcwhat'd it break?
06:23.42ckknightBabble doesn't include LibBabble-Boss-3.0
06:23.55Ellipsisthreat throws errors about not having libbabble-boss-3.0 even if 2.2 is available
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06:28.28aestilEllipsis: <- Doubledutch
06:30.03Ellipsislolwut?
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06:31.26HjalteIt must be a bug, when shadow damage from the warlock doesn't increase the pets AP or magic damage, yeah?
06:31.45Kivin!c us maiev smokecheck
06:31.48WoWLuaircBotKivin: Smokecheck, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (5/0/56). 8697 HP; 6153 Mana; 98 mana regen; 17 mp5; 6638 Armour; 979 AP; 158.100 Melee DPS; 19.13% melee crit; 10 melee hit; 135 +spell dmg/heal; 6.05% dodge; 4.96% block; 35 resilience;[[ TBR: 1270 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25nss5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qv4vt ][ Updated: Mon Feb 18 01:41:02 2008 EST ]]
06:31.54EllipsisHjalte: which pet?
06:32.01HjalteEllipsis: All of them.
06:32.22HjalteOn the PTR
06:32.24Hjalte:)
06:32.29Ellipsishm
06:32.35EllipsisI'm gonna go check that o.O
06:33.05HjalteWhen looking at my damage, it still says in the tooltip that it will increase my pets AP, but when cheking the pet stats, there is no increase.
06:33.05Estillolret
06:35.12Ellipsishuh, you're right
06:35.30Ellipsislame
06:36.23HjalteEllipsis: It can't be right. That'd make the felguard worthless.
06:36.26Ellipsisyeah
06:36.34EllipsisI wonder if it's just a display issue or if the AP is really that low
06:36.53Ellipsisyou'd think FG locks would be whining all over the place if it was actually missing, though...
06:37.09HjalteEllipsis: On normal realms, the AP turns green and you see the amount that the warlock is "buffing" the pet with.
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06:37.52HjalteIt is definately lacking, but why, I don't know. Maybe they are reworking the system, adding conversions to crit and hit? One can only hope.
06:37.59aestilmy grid script is freaking bomb, except for when its fail.
06:38.27EllipsisHjalte: don't tease me with fantasies like that
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06:38.45EllipsisI'm sure it was just some tard at Blizz who broke the AP conversion
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06:39.24HjalteEllipsis: You're probably right. That's what I was thinking.
06:40.10Cairenn<PROTECTED>
06:40.20Ellipsisooh, shiny
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06:42.00Antiarc~seen Elkano
06:42.08purlelkano <n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 41m 51s ago, saying: 'Xinhuan, well that was back in the old pvp days ^^'.
06:42.26CIA-12037destiny * r61868 10PitBull/ReadyCheckIcon/ReadyCheckIcon.lua:
06:42.26CIA-12PitBull
06:42.26CIA-12- Update locale koKR
06:44.39aestilantiarc what are raid times?
06:44.42aestiland days?
06:45.42aestilthey just killed council
06:46.37AntiarcOur primary group is wed, fri, mon at 7:40 PST, Sun is 6:00 PST
06:46.52AntiarcThere's a secondary group, not sure what their times are, though
06:47.08aestilwow. 7.40 pst.
06:47.11aestiltil when?
06:47.19AntiarcUsually 11:45 or so
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06:47.25AntiarcWe're a heavily west coast crowd
06:47.30AntiarcThough we have some east coasters
06:47.30aestili'm in LA
06:47.35AntiarcAlso, afk movie with the wife
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06:47.44aestil*movie*
06:47.52AntiarcPrimary group has a tryout process when we need to fill a spot, just as a heads up
06:48.01AntiarcNot generally a "hey who wants to come to BT?" sort of thing
06:48.09Antiarcreally afk now
06:48.10aestilkk.
06:48.20aestili'm pretty much not available anyways, just wondering.
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06:50.11CIA-1203whitetooth * r61869 10RatingBuster/About RatingBuster.txt:
06:50.11CIA-12RatingBuster:
06:50.11CIA-12- Fixed a lot of typos in "About RatingBuster.txt"
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06:59.46on1yanyone use xperky?
07:00.07durcynon1y: whadaboudit
07:00.37Arcaiawtb 70 rogue advice...
07:00.39on1yi have tried everything to hide the number box
07:00.55durcynon1y: have you tried unchecking the legoblock in the /xparky dialog
07:01.08Arcaia70 rogue advice beyond 'replace this'
07:01.08on1yyea that turns the whole thing off
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07:01.16durcynon1y: yes, you have to anchor it to another frame first
07:01.20on1yoh
07:01.22on1ysec
07:01.37durcynit doesn't float free just yet
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07:02.19on1ydo you know what the bottomframe form skinner is called?
07:02.29on1yso that i can attach it there
07:02.30durcyner, just use the xparky frame finder?
07:03.08on1ythe bottomframe is lowest so i cant select it, let me look at files
07:04.52on1ywell i jsut hooked it to worldframe
07:04.57on1yso that shoudl do
07:05.02on1ythanks
07:07.27durcynremember that it inherits parent frame strata and width
07:08.38aestilI wish there was a minimap mod that would allow you to set level and strata.  is that impossible?
07:09.01SunTsuIs that just me or isn't there any option to attach the lego box to any frame in the latest xparky?
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07:10.30aestilold guild kill mother and council on their first night of attempts for both encounters.
07:10.38durcyneh?  he just folded the lego block parenting options into the main bit, it was redundant anyway
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07:11.14aestillol @ blizzard.  i'm assuming that the encounters been nerfed since it came out.
07:11.36durcynshahraz has been nerfed into the ground, yes
07:13.07aestilcouncil?
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07:13.27durcynwas never hard, just required people to dodge AOE
07:14.32aestilapparently they were able to dodge.
07:14.39aestilthen they had an lol wipe on illidian.
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07:17.53HjalteI need a better looking UI :( I just realised that the default one might be better than what I've setup.
07:18.53LukianHjalte, lol.
07:19.01aestilwin
07:19.11aestili realized that my UI is too full of buggy scripts.
07:19.13aestilfail.
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07:22.21CIA-1203nemes * r61870 10Quartz/Pet/Quartz_Pet.toc: Quartz: update TOC title for Pet module
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07:24.03CIA-1203diablohu * r61871 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua):
07:24.03CIA-12AtlasLoot:
07:24.03CIA-12- zhCN update
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07:31.44CIA-12WhoDrop
07:31.44CIA-12- update zhCN file
07:31.44CIA-12- update toc file
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08:01.59Elkanohmmm, is active an adverb, too? meaning, would "to acive hide sth" be correct english?
08:02.37nevcairielactively
08:02.43theoddone33actively hide, yeah
08:02.52theoddone33achieve hide sth
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08:03.49Elkanowhy does dict.leo.org not know actively? :/
08:03.58Grumbecause you 'create' it from 'active'
08:04.29Elkanowas going for actively, too, but wondered why it didn't show up there
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08:05.23Nimhis cyCycled supposed to work with Buffalo2?
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08:08.54ElkanoI think so... and maybe it will work with EBB3, too... once I get time to start coding it ;)
08:09.37nevcairielSharedMedia-3.0 not in trunk yet?
08:10.56SLVRsurfRanyone know where "TinyTipModules" are? just updated using WAU and tooltips are showing up @ the mouse, and /ttip doesn't work anymore.
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08:12.20CIA-1203elkano * r61873 10ElkBuffBars/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
08:12.20CIA-12ElkBuffBars
08:12.20CIA-12- hard-include UTF8 libs
08:12.20CIA-12- added ability to not hide default buff and tench frame
08:12.20CIA-12- should only show Blizzard frames if it didn't hide them (meaning other addons hiding them shouldn't be harmed)
08:12.21CIA-12- should be more robust agianst other addons showing the bufffraim again (unregistered its event :P )
08:13.29Elkanoomg... I wrote fraim....
08:14.08CIA-1203nevcairiel 07Elkano * r61874 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
08:14.08CIA-12LibSharedMedia-3.0
08:14.08CIA-12- update layout to the library standard, so embeds dont get the libraries with it
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08:15.01CIA-1203nevcairiel 072.4 * r61875 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc):
08:15.01CIA-12Omen:
08:15.01CIA-12- update .toc to refence LSM-3.0 and not -2.0
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08:16.46Arrowmasteri want to kill somebody
08:16.59Arrowmastertrying to make a Deadened module for aguf for my friend
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08:18.21Kalrothlol
08:20.10Arrowmasteragufs prototyping is fucking weird or something
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08:22.57Binkysilly question: is there a fix for omen?
08:23.47nevcairieldefine "fix"
08:24.15Binky"something that works" :p
08:24.24Binkyalthough I'm not completely sure it's Omen to blame
08:24.28nevcairielmy omen works
08:24.51Binkyupdated today?
08:24.56nevcairielsure
08:25.08Binkyodd
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08:25.20Megalonhttp://ace.pastey.net/82536
08:25.27Megalonthat's what i get after login
08:25.37nevcairielMegalon: well then fix it
08:25.47nevcairielit tells you whats wrong
08:25.58nevcairieljust go and download LibBabble-Spell-3.0
08:25.59nevcairiel:)
08:26.02PHL-Chuckbeen getting http://ace.pastey.net/82537 all night
08:26.15Megalonhm
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08:26.15PHL-Chuckanyone know whats up
08:26.23Megalonwhy doesn the update resolve that dependency
08:26.24Megalon:C
08:26.43nevcairieldunno
08:27.02Arrowmasterit should
08:27.46Megalonhm
08:28.14Megalonoh, they are installed
08:28.22NolookA user named rabbit has been modifying Omen on SVN. He added BabblSpell and removed Boss, but then put Boss back since it's needed by Threat-1.0.
08:28.24Megalonbut deactivated by default?
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08:28.57NolookIf you undo those changes you will probably get a working Omen again.
08:29.04nevcairielOmen works fine
08:29.06nevcairieljust update
08:29.07thulhmm
08:29.08nevcairielman.
08:29.13Arrowmasteryeah it works fine
08:29.52EllipsisPHL-Chuck: update
08:29.52Cheadseverytime I login I have to enable and disable the Blizzard cast bar from Quartz... anyone have a good lead why that is?
08:30.13PHL-Chuckcool thanks
08:30.17EllipsisCheads: another addon interfering, perhaps?
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08:31.31Binkytried 61635 before, but it didn't change anything
08:31.51Binkythat was when he removed boss iirc, so I'll try the feb 8th build
08:32.02Arrowmastertry the latest
08:32.04Arrowmasterit works
08:32.48Binky61752.2?
08:32.53CheadsEllipsis could be.. just doesn't seem to have other addons that should interfere with that... I'm also using Perl classic unit frames.. but that's been a while since it was last updated.. and this problem happened a few days ago
08:34.04EllipsisCheads: do you use OmniCC?
08:34.09thulhmm
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08:34.15thulnoone here have built a hackintosh?
08:34.20Ellipsiser, wrong issue
08:34.28nevcairieli just downloaded the latest Omen from the files page
08:34.30nevcairielworks fine for me
08:34.36nevcairiel(clean addondir and all)
08:35.10NolookYeah, clean dir might fix it. Good idea.
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08:36.19CIA-1203nevcairiel 07Elkano * r61876 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
08:36.19CIA-12LibSharedMedia-3.0
08:36.19CIA-12- or maybe not
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08:36.45CIA-1203nevcairiel 072.4 * r61877 10Omen/Libs/: Omen: fix external reference to LSM-3.0
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08:37.48CheadsEllipsis yeah I use omnicc
08:38.40Cheadsseems like the problem was perl had a setting for disableing the blizzard cast bar.. I didn't have that set.. but apparently quartz setting used to be enough.. disableing it in quartz and in perl seems to solve it =)
08:42.28CIA-1203elkano 07Elkano * r61878 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
08:42.28CIA-12LibSharedMedia-3.0
08:42.28CIA-12- changing name shown to "Lib: SharedMedia-3.0"
08:42.28CIA-12- move LS and CBH to subdirectories
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08:46.26Zhinjiowhats a quick way in game to see the actual itemstring from an itemlink?
08:46.46Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
08:47.30ZhinjioGenius. Thanks.
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08:50.22AntiarcElkano!
08:50.59ArrowmasterAntiarc!
08:51.40Arrowmasterfix http://ace.pastey.net/82538
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08:53.53AntiarcJust a plain old add?
08:54.03Arrowmasterit wont work
08:54.06Arrowmasteri dont know why
08:54.17Arrowmasteri blame aceoo
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08:54.28Arrowmasterfucking batshit insane prototyping
08:54.33AntiarcLemme see if I can find out what's up
08:54.34AntiarcHehe
08:54.50Arrowmastertrying to make it for my friend
08:55.00nevcairielhmm
08:55.30nevcairielself.UNIT_SPELLCAST_START = Deadened.UNIT_SPELLCAST_START .. you have that in the hook func, and some way down, you set aguf.UNIT_SPELLCAST_START .. but the thing in your :hook will override that already
08:55.55Arrowmasteroh i forgot to take that out
08:56.46LukianIs there a slash command for raid leader?
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08:59.27Shirikwell, there's /script PromoteToLeader(...
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09:01.39Wobin_What's the max character size for guild names?
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09:04.13Binkyhmm
09:04.21BinkyBabble got updated 20 hours ago
09:04.35Grumwhich babble? we only have 20 kinds :)
09:04.42Binkyand MyThreat is broken too, so I think it's a Threat-1.0 issue
09:05.10nevcairielThreat-1.0 works fine
09:05.33nevcairieldo you run dis-embedded ?
09:05.35Ellipsisthreat works fine, it's just all addons which embed it that were broken
09:05.41Binkyheh
09:05.59Binkywhich implies rolling Threat back would fix it, except it doesn't
09:06.05Arrowmasterno it wont
09:06.14Arrowmastersince you have threat embeded in multiple addons
09:06.19Elkano"It's broken" isn't a bug report...
09:06.33Ellipsisthe issue is simple and well understood
09:06.41Arrowmasterinstall Threat-1.0
09:06.48BinkyI have
09:07.07BinkyNeither Omen nor MyThreat seem to be receiving any information
09:07.08Arrowmasterdelete MyThreat
09:07.23Arrowmasteror disable it
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09:07.35AntiarcOmen worked fine for me tonight, but I didn't do a full update
09:07.37Arrowmasterbecause the author is a dumbass and fucked up his toc
09:07.45Kjellviz[SW]Dodge: u there ?
09:07.45Arrowmaster## OptionalDeps: Ace2
09:07.49Kjellvizor Xinhuan?
09:07.51Arrowmasterno optdep on threat-1.0
09:08.09nevcairielArrowmaster: Ace2 libs dont need a OptDep
09:08.20Arrowmasternevcairiel: threat-1.0 is not LoD
09:08.26Arrowmasterit requires an optdep
09:08.31nevcairielhm right
09:08.35AntiarcThreat-1.0 is not LOD intentionally, remember :)
09:09.00nevcairielNow that you mention it
09:09.02nevcairieli do
09:09.04Arrowmasterif the embeds in MyThreat didnt get updated and the author fucked up the toc and didnt optdep then it will break threat-1.0 when enabled
09:09.42nevcairielyou should've named it AggroLib-1.0, at least it would load pretty early on its own then :D
09:10.03Arrowmaster!Threat-1.0 alar style
09:10.09GandharvaAntiarc: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10838.msg180886#msg180886 If it's no problem for you, I would add this to Deadened today in the evening.
09:10.55AntiarcGandharva: Go for it
09:11.18AntiarcThought I'd turn Deaden off by default
09:11.24AntiarcSince that's the primary purpose of the mod
09:11.34Gandharvaok, will do so
09:11.51Arrowmasteryeah off by default would be good
09:14.37Orionshockanyone doing anything on the PTR, IE raid.. Horde side, im intro ssc. any spec
09:14.41Orionshock^^ druid
09:15.15thultoday's explosm rocks
09:15.50Grumurl?
09:16.18TemKemayo, ping
09:16.52thulexplosm.net/comic
09:16.52thuli think
09:16.53thulto sec
09:16.53Megalonthul: xkcd is also nice today ;D
09:16.58thulhttp://www.explosm.net/comics/1180/
09:17.00thulthere
09:17.00CIA-1203antiarc 072.4 * r61879 10Omen/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Bar label layout system, starting to further modularize the pieces
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09:17.07thulMegalon: haha, yeah :-P
09:17.16thulleasticoulddo AND questionablecontent both have fun storylines going too
09:17.21thulmy comic life is gooood
09:18.28Orionshockthey added 40!? new daily quests in 2.4??
09:18.30Orionshock-.-
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09:19.51GrumOrionshock: lol really?
09:20.02Orionshockaccording to wowhead
09:20.03Grumnow everyone can earn 250g a day!
09:20.07Orionshockhttp://www.wowhead.com/?quests&filter=ty=-2;da=ja;cr=8;crs=1;crv=0#0-4+1+2
09:21.38Primer!rating 1440
09:21.39Xinhuan1440 rating gives 330(5s), 291(3s) and 251(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
09:21.49Grumits not +40 actually
09:22.01Grumyou can prolly do 7-10 of em a day
09:23.03Grummm make that 15-20 :P
09:23.15Grumbut for 4g a day .. lol .. i wont bother
09:23.55NolookYou may complete up to 10 daily quests per day per character.
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09:24.20JaxonLimit is 25 in 2.4
09:24.44CIA-1203jerry * r61880 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data.toc Talented_Data_esES.lua): Talented_Data: regenerate
09:24.54NolookReally? Who has time for that though? ;-)
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09:25.41thul25*10g = 250g, i can farm nether scale leather or motes for 250g in 40-50-60 minutes
09:29.02JaxonElkano: odd that you logged in right as I'm looking at EBB.  Is there no way to manually add buffs by name to a whitelist or blacklist?
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09:35.46KemayoTem: Pong
09:35.46TemJobs'a'goodn is trying to play the wrong file
09:35.46Tembecause you renamed the addon
09:35.46Temit's still pointing at Qsomthing
09:35.51Tem(at least, the version I downloaded from WoWI earlier today is)
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09:36.58KemayoNothing to do with me, sadly.
09:37.14Temoh, I assumed
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09:37.41nevcairielyou evil assumer
09:37.52kaugummianyone has testet around with getting the current %hp of any unit's guid that appers in the combatlog?
09:38.03TemKemayo, sorry,  I would have sword that I read "Kemayo" in the author line
09:38.15KemayoIt was in the credits only. :)
09:38.34thuleVIL ASSUMER
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09:39.05CIA-1203arrowmaster * r61881 10Deadened/ (Deadened.toc Modules/agUF.lua): Deadened: added an agUF module I made for a friend (he tested it I didn't)
09:39.27Arrowmasteraceoo should diaf for the time ive lost
09:40.17Primer!rating 1586
09:40.18Xinhuan1586 rating gives 446(5s), 393(3s) and 339(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
09:40.40poll!point 300
09:40.45poll!points 300
09:40.46Xinhuan300 arena points require 1300(5s), 1486(3s) and 1545(2s) team rating.
09:40.48Arrowmasterit seems if you hook the prototype the actual function that gets called is passed in acehook as the orig_object and not the prototype so self.hooks[orig_object] is nil
09:44.44pollthe /changeactionbar macro only takes pages from 1 to 6,   is there a way to make it work with pages 7 and above ?
09:45.07BinkyYep, removing MyThreat & reinstalling Threat fixed it.
09:45.17Binky*goes to bug MyThreat author*
09:45.23Binkythanks... whoever... :p
09:45.27ArrowmasterBinky: better him than us since its his fault
09:45.31Binkyyeah
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09:47.08ArrowmasterBinky: when you bug him make sure to tell him to add Threat-1.0 to the optdeps in addition to updating his externals for the changed libraries needed for threat-1.0
09:48.14BinkyI'll just bug him on EJ
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09:49.55laggerhm chastise is spelled chastice in babble-spell-3.0 someone should fix that
09:50.16nevcairielheh
09:50.26nevcairielgot a wowhead link to the exact spelling for double-checking?
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09:51.03laggerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=chastise
09:51.24nevcairielhm seems to be right in my babble-spell
09:52.09nevcairiela
09:52.12nevcairielin the icon list
09:52.13nevcairielgot it
09:52.20Mezir|SemiAFKwhich addon lets me move around the minimap buttons? (even the not default ones.)
09:52.49CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61882 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:
09:52.49CIA-12LibBabble-Spell-3.0
09:52.49CIA-12- fix spelling of Chastise in the SpellIcon list
09:52.59BinkensteinDetatchedMiniButtons is the one I use
09:53.32Binkensteinalthough it isn't Ace :O
09:53.54evlnon-ace can be good :)
09:53.58haste<PROTECTED>
09:54.14Mezir|SemiAFKthere isnt a good ace alternative, right?
09:54.20Mezir|SemiAFK:<
09:54.21evli mean, unless you know that you actually NEED a library framework you're probably just making a fancy slash comman d:P
09:54.24nevcairielhaste: stop that UTF8, or give me a font that displays it =P
09:54.28TNSegod damn there is a norwegian first naem for girls spelled 'Madly'
09:54.35evll2ut8!
09:54.49hastenevcairiel: all my fonts display it!
09:54.50nevcairielmy client does utf8 just fine, its the font that doesnt have the icons :P
09:54.56Zicontnse: As a norwegian, I call bullshit.
09:54.59NightHawkTheSaneso get a new font :P
09:55.04BinkensteinThere's a MBB mod in WAU. Might grab that later
09:55.19evlTNSe: As a norwegian i support the motion of bullshit.
09:55.21nevcairielits default windows tahoma
09:55.23nevcairielwhat can i do o.O
09:55.28Binkensteinbut most seem to be mini-map related, rather than moving current buttons
09:55.37TNSehttp://www.gulesider.no/tk/search.c?q=madly&x=0&y=0
09:55.44TNSeweird Evl/Zicon
09:55.48TNSeseems like you cannot be norwegians
09:56.09evlIt's not common
09:56.13TNSeDUh :P
09:56.16TNSenever claimed it to be
09:56.18TNSestill kinda funny
09:56.18evlThere's people named penis but yeah
09:57.47nevcairielhaste: what code is that arrow thing?
09:57.58hastegod knows
09:58.09nevcairielhow do you type it? o.O
09:58.11TemKemayo, I know why I thought it was you
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09:58.16haste<Alt Gr><Shift>U
09:58.17TemCredits
09:58.17TemQuestsfu by kamayo
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09:59.37Atronwhat is the console command for high res screenshots?
10:00.24Arrowmasternevcairiel: ↑↑↓↓â†â†’â†â†’â’·â’¶
10:01.12evlHe is truly... The Arrow Master(tm)
10:01.24CIA-1203hegarol * r61883 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (6 files):
10:01.24CIA-12AtlasLoot:
10:01.24CIA-12- Sunwell update
10:01.27Wobin_~rimshot
10:02.05purlba-dum CHH
10:02.06CIA-1203hegarol * r61884 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
10:02.06CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
10:02.06CIA-12- Sunwell update
10:02.06NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: you forgot Select,Start
10:02.06Wobin_It's true
10:02.06Wobin_There's another B A too
10:02.06Arrowmasterdid not
10:02.06hasteAtron: import / scrot?
10:02.06nevcairielthe funny thing is, if i copy that into Word or somethign, and select the same font, it displays right
10:02.06nevcairielbut in my client it doesnt
10:02.06nevcairielo.O
10:02.11hastesounds like your client is made of fail
10:02.14Arrowmasternevcairiel: what client?
10:02.32nevcairieli know its a fail client, but i got used to it
10:02.33nevcairielmIRC
10:02.42hastefail client is fail
10:03.10SnagoAtron: look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Changing_the_screenshot_format
10:03.16Arrowmasteralt+o, irc messages
10:03.37Arrowmastermake sure utf-8 display and font linking are enabled
10:03.56nevcairielthey are
10:04.00Arrowmasterthe two multibyte options help a lot too
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10:04.33Arrowmastermaybe its a problem with the font then
10:04.42Xinhuanit displays right in MIRC ;p
10:04.49Xinhuanif you turn utf8 on in mirc
10:04.54Arrowmasterdisplays for me using the original FIXEDSYS font
10:05.27nevcairielfixedsys is so fucking ugly
10:05.33Arrowmasterlies
10:05.34nevcairielbut type something in utf8 again
10:05.50haste↓
10:05.55nevcairielstill blocks
10:06.24Arrowmasterã ã‚“ã”大家æ—
10:07.36hasteクラナドï¼
10:07.48Arrowmaster♔♕♖♗♘♙♚♛♜â™â™žâ™Ÿ
10:11.14Arrowmasterâ–▂▃▄▅▆▇█▇▆▅▄▃▂â–▂▃▄▅▆▇█▇▆▅▄▃▂â–
10:11.14OlisonUTF8 goodness
10:11.14hastelol
10:11.14hastebored Arrowmaster :p ?
10:11.14Arrowmasterhere does this display as a box? â
10:11.14hastein a way, yes
10:11.14Olisonyes, but with a backdrop :D
10:11.14Olisonthose japanese characters are pretty!
10:11.14ZiconOh god. It looks like something puked on my screen.
10:11.14sb_omfg
10:11.14sb_i thought it is some virus!!
10:11.14hastelol
10:11.14sb_just logged in with remote desktop and then those funny chars on my screen :o
10:11.50ArrowmasterAÌ€Ì̂̃̄̅̆̇̉̈̊̋̌ÌÌŽÌÌ̛̖̗̘̙̜̑̒̓̔̕̚Ì̴̵̶̷̸̡̢̧̨̞̟̠̣̤̥̦̩̪̫̬̭̮̯̰̱̲̳̹̺̻̼̽̾̿̀ÍÍ Í¡
10:11.58Arrowmasterah that one failed =(
10:12.11nevcairieli see a A with a half background
10:12.19Arrowmasterlol?
10:12.36nevcairielクラナドï¼
10:12.38nevcairielhmm
10:12.44nevcairielthey display right in my editbox
10:12.49nevcairielbut not in the channel window
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10:12.51nevcairiel:D
10:13.00Arrowmasterlol they dont display right in my editbox but do in my channel window
10:13.19NightHawkTheSanewhat the hell, is someone trying to type veertically?
10:13.21nevcairieli need a new irc client
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10:13.33Arrowmasterim using mirc too
10:14.04nevcairieli should probably dump that stupid theme engine i use
10:14.10nevcairieli bet it screws up the fonts
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10:14.55phalsewhy can't I access the full file list of various versions of other addons like I can with omen?
10:14.55pollis there an addon that can replace macro and spell in bars from a script ?
10:15.34Arrowmasterâ˜
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10:20.25ElkanoJaxon, was there before... only relocated to lecture ^^'
10:20.39Elkanoand the only way to manualy add them would be editing the savedvariables
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10:22.38CIA-1203kunda * r61885 10GridStatusThreat/GridStatusThreat.toc: GridStatusThreat: fixed typo in OptionalDeps and X-Embeds
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10:24.43CIA-1203hegarol * r61886 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
10:24.43CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
10:24.43CIA-12- Arena Season 4 started
10:24.56thuldoes that mean that s2 gear is honor? :-P
10:25.28CIA-1203hegarol * r61887 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (6 files):
10:25.28CIA-12AtlasLoot:
10:25.28CIA-12- Season 4 started
10:26.00nevcairielSeason4 didnt start
10:26.08nevcairielthe atlas people are just stupid :P
10:26.11thul:-(
10:26.14thuli want s2 mh :-P
10:30.09Ordogwhen will it start?
10:30.16Ordogwill s2 sets be available for honor?
10:30.18Ordog:)
10:30.24thul---dunno
10:30.26thulhopes so :-P
10:30.38BinkensteinThat's the plan
10:30.44Grums2 just needs some arenapoints right?
10:31.10Ordogdunno never got any ...
10:31.20Ordogmy resilence is just too low ^
10:31.55thulyes
10:31.56thulis the answer
10:32.03Grumyou can still get arena points with 0 resilience O.o
10:32.06thulblue post
10:32.11thuls2 will be honor purchasable
10:32.21thulI have 200-250 resilience, but i don't arena either :-P
10:32.32theoddone33I hope they take personal ratings off the s3 gear then
10:32.32theoddone33I'm sure they will
10:32.38Grumi'll just get the s3 items with t6 tokens, way easier
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10:32.49theoddone33what?
10:32.56theoddone33that sounds like something that will piss me off
10:33.23theoddone33it's bad enough that they made the pvp cloaks badge gear
10:33.37theoddone33they had it all fixed up so nicely
10:33.41CIA-1203mikk * r61888 10Baggins_Auctioneer/:
10:33.41CIA-12Baggins_Auctioneer:
10:33.41CIA-12- Created folder
10:33.41CIA-12- Adds Auctioneer Bottomscanner bought-for filters to Baggins ("disenchant", "vendor", etc)
10:33.41theoddone33now I'm sad
10:33.47Grumhttp://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr/24/pvp5.jpg
10:34.03Grumtheoddone33: they just give the tokens a second life, nothing more
10:34.22Grumand tbh, its quite impossible to aspire both pvp and pve next to eachother
10:34.27Grumthis makes it a tad more accessible
10:34.37theoddone33I dunno
10:34.51theoddone33risen is in the top 3 guilds in the U.S. and they seem to do OK at both
10:35.04theoddone33perhaps because they're in the top 3 guilds
10:35.37nevcairieli hope you only get t6 tokens for pvp when everyone is done with pve :P
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10:35.55theoddone33I'm annoyed by the principle of pvp gear not requiring pvp to get... why not make t6 available for arena points and just forget the whole division ever existed
10:36.15theoddone33it'll be like old times, before resilience
10:36.54Templease no old time pvp
10:36.56TemI'll have to raid again
10:37.05TemI _hate_ having to raid just to do well in pvp
10:37.20Grumand pve-ers hate to have to pvp to do well in pve O.o
10:37.25Arrowmasteri hate having to pvp to do well in pvp
10:37.31thuli hate
10:37.32MikkI agree with Arrowmaster
10:37.40theoddone33I dislike the gear barrier resilience has created
10:37.41nevcairielme too
10:37.42Temwhat pvp do you need for pve?
10:37.54GrumTem: anti-fear trinket
10:37.55Mikklots of classes basically need pvp to get stamboost gear for pve
10:37.55Arrowmasteri dont pvp so i have like 38 resilience so i cant pvp
10:37.57Mikkand that
10:37.57theoddone33and honor is kind of bad these days
10:38.06thulTem: shaman offhand/mh pre tk :-P
10:38.12Temmm
10:38.19MikkNot to mention weapons that are kind of uber for any melee class
10:38.22theoddone33I'm just saying if pve'rs can get pvp gear by pveing then why shouldn't pvpers get pve gear by pvping?
10:38.29Grumwithout the medallion you are likely toast @ archimonde
10:38.32Baldor_workyou can get sta for pve with badgeloot and rep gear next patch
10:38.36Baldor_workyou still have to pve for pvp
10:38.46Grumtheoddone33: because you actually have to *do* something in pve
10:38.52Baldor_worklol
10:38.55Grumyou cant just afk-bot-leech and get your gear like in pvp
10:39.02theoddone33oh man
10:39.04Baldor_workyou get banned these days
10:39.08Mikko rly?
10:39.11Mikkhavent noticed
10:39.11Grumlol
10:39.11Baldor_workyarly
10:39.15Baldor_worki have :)
10:39.17theoddone33I've heard myths of guilds with no dead weight
10:39.22theoddone33but I've never seen it myself
10:39.25theoddone33you can afk bot pve
10:39.27Elkanohope S4 will still take some time... just bought S1 and I don't want to feel sad :/
10:39.34thulhehe
10:39.34theoddone33you just have to have a stupid guild who carries you
10:39.37Arrowmasterthey ban for creating 5v5s and dancing naked?
10:39.45thuli have s1 mh, s2 oh
10:39.57Baldor_workArrowmaster; clearly we were talkign about honor
10:40.11Grumtheoddone33: there is a clear difference between organizing a raid and spending hours on  hours on hours to get gear and doing 1 hour of pvp and also getting gear
10:40.18Arrowmasterthe better pvp gear is from arena points though
10:40.25Baldor_worksince clearly you get epics in 1h of pvp
10:40.27Grumin a 5v5 you can get 1 piece of s3 gear every month by just loosing 10 battles
10:40.31theoddone33Grum: I don't disagree, it's why the two gearsets should be separate
10:40.50theoddone33if you're going to open access to one you should open access to the other
10:40.55theoddone33but I'd rather keep it the way it is now
10:40.59Grumtbh, rewarding the pve people is better
10:41.05theoddone33pve to get pve gear, pvp to get pvp gear
10:41.10Grumpve keeps the game alive, not pvp
10:41.14thulerhm? :-P
10:41.17theoddone33or fix the game by taking away res and merge the two gearsets
10:41.19thulthat was a weird statement :-P
10:41.23thulpve keeps the game alive FOR GRUM
10:41.24Grummake pve people happy - you have more people playing
10:41.24Arrowmasterand ive done 20hours atleast of raiding every week and i dont think ive gotten any gear in atleast 3 months
10:41.33thulpvp keeps it alive for many other persons.
10:41.33Grumthul: no in general
10:41.49thulGrum: based on?
10:41.53theoddone33I don't think you can clearly say whether more people pvp or pve without actual data
10:42.00Grumbased on the fact that you have guilds that raid
10:42.01thulthat is my point
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10:42.06thulGrum: and?
10:42.06theoddone33given that something like 2% of people playing have killed illidan
10:42.08Grumand that 95% of the endgame content is pve based
10:42.18Grumand that 95% of all expansion material is pve based
10:42.19thulGrum: do you think a vast majority of people have cleared bt?
10:42.28thul(if so, you fail)
10:42.35theoddone33it's probably morelike 5-7% these days
10:42.37Grumdoes it matter what they cleared?
10:42.40Arrowmasterless
10:42.42thulofcourse
10:42.44Grumthe focus in on pve, not on pvp
10:42.48Grum*is on
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10:42.51theoddone33yeah probably less, 5% is 1 in 20?
10:43.01Grummax 1%
10:43.01FinalXGrum: that changes soon though, with the upcoming tournaments :)
10:43.06thulif you are guildless (which a huge amount of people are) and if you are casual player, pvp is far more appealing than pve :-)
10:43.09theoddone33on my server/faction it's 0 for 120k or something
10:43.12Arrowmasterwell i think 8% of guilds on wowjutsu have a bt kill right?
10:43.12FinalXRight no you need to level and get gear to compete in arena matches...
10:43.17GrumFinalX: but those tournaments are outside of wow right?
10:43.30Grumjust blizzard events *somewhere* where people play against eachother?
10:43.34FinalXthe current wow, perhaps, yeah
10:43.40theoddone33pvp you can do by yourself
10:43.43theoddone33pve you can't
10:43.55theoddone33so I dunno, I'd think more people pvp
10:43.55Grumtherefor stuff you accomplish in pve > pvp
10:44.03Ordogpvp is more fun with a raid group ...
10:44.05FinalXthat's true, but it is a multiplayer game all along :P
10:44.07Arrowmastertournaments are always on private blizzard servers seperate from normal realms
10:44.08HobbySpeak for yourself, I can solo BT
10:44.20GrumHobby: kek
10:44.22Ordogmade 30k in two days with our av group, just a few hours really
10:44.26Baldor_workGrum, you draw the wrong conclusion
10:44.29Baldor_workpve requires new content
10:44.31Baldor_workpvp does not
10:44.31theoddone33people who put together enough coordination to pve and clear BT already have a game advantage
10:44.34OrdogEU eredar made sth like 60k a day in av
10:44.34Baldor_workhence all the pve content
10:44.40theoddone33why give them free pvp gear?
10:44.57Grumright, why would blizzard bother with making expensive pve content if that was not the biggest part of the playerbase? ;)
10:45.17theoddone33more like.. why give them free pvp gear that's easier for them to get than it would be for a 5v5 arena team
10:45.22Grumwhy bother making WOTLK with hundreds of new quests/gear/npc/whatever
10:45.25Baldor_worknow you're talking about blizzards motivation
10:45.29PHL-Chuckthey need to add some more damn BGs cause EOTS sucked
10:45.33Ordogcurrently im guildles because i dont have the time for a guild, when i got time again in a month i will be happy that my gear is not totally outdated due to occasional pvp
10:45.34FinalXpvp (not /pvp and gank eachother at the crossraods) got added much later..
10:45.36Baldor_worki thought we started talking about what keeps the players playing ;)
10:45.41Grumtheoddone33: only for less than 1% of the people, so why fuzz?
10:45.43thuleots sucks, that is for sure
10:45.59thuli want a cooler one
10:45.59FinalXhehe i like eots
10:45.59Arrowmasterthe playerbase that will keep paying money every month is the pvers, the larger playerbase that will come and go is the pvpers
10:45.59GrumEOTS is the best BG in game O.o
10:46.01FinalXprot pally with 15% movement speed increase through talents
10:46.08FinalX<-- uber flag carrier next to druids
10:46.09theoddone33well attunements are getting removed from t6 instances
10:46.11ArrowmasterEOTS is the worst bg
10:46.17thulthat does it
10:46.23Grumtheoddone33: yeah but you cant get tokens from the easy bosses :)
10:46.23thulGrum is hereby exlucded from all debates
10:46.29thultogether with FinalX
10:46.31thulDONE!
10:46.33theoddone33well that may be true, I don't keep up
10:46.34FinalXLOL
10:46.36Grumkek
10:46.37Cheadswsg is the worst bg! =)
10:46.42FinalXthat's the whole point of a debate :P
10:46.44Ordogav is the only bg where the horde needs a raid group to pwn constantly while the alliance does not ...
10:46.45FinalXto..debate
10:46.47FinalX.. :P
10:46.48Grumeots is the only BG that actually combines flag+tower control
10:46.53Grumit is the only one you can not do mindlessly
10:47.01Arrowmastereots is nothing but a giant zerg fest
10:47.02theoddone33I disagree
10:47.06FinalXGrum: which is why people often think eots sucks ;-)
10:47.11Grumyeah .. ;D
10:47.13theoddone33everyone in my battlegroup that's not in a raid is capable of doing all BGs mindlessly
10:47.24Grumexcept eots? ;)
10:47.29theoddone33even eots
10:47.32Grumeots actually needs tactics
10:47.38thultactics? :-P
10:47.41FinalXok, something else... tankadin, 40 spelldmg or battlemaster?
10:47.44theoddone33no no
10:47.44Baldor_workeverything needs tactics...
10:47.46Baldor_workdoesnt mean ppl use it
10:47.48theoddone33eots needs you to not be retarded
10:47.52Grumspelldmg
10:47.54Baldor_workor use working tactics
10:47.56theoddone33AB is a harder battleground to play well
10:48.02theoddone33against good teams
10:48.11GrumAB is boring
10:48.15Grumbecause it has only 1 focus
10:48.23PHL-Chuck1 focus?
10:48.24theoddone33I thought there were 5
10:48.26theoddone33focii
10:48.26PHL-Chucklol
10:48.35Grumyes, 'capture building X'
10:48.37Grumoooooooooe
10:48.45thulchess is quite simple too
10:48.48thulin principle.. :-)
10:48.54PHL-Chuckyeah but you'd be surprised how the ADD people can find 123132 focus spots
10:48.55thulwhich makes it infinitely rewarding :-)
10:48.57Ordogopen world pvp daily quests ftw, fuck bgs
10:48.59Ordog;P
10:49.07thulAB is more chess like than eots ;-)
10:49.09theoddone33AB is pretty interesting tactically
10:49.10theoddone33I find
10:49.15thulBUT FUCK THIS: help me build a hackintosh
10:49.20thuli want a hackintosh :-P
10:49.28theoddone33I've only seen a 1900ish to 2000 game of eots once
10:49.30PHL-Chuckwhats that OS X running on a PC?
10:49.32theoddone33and it was still boring
10:49.36theoddone33AB it's a rush when that happens
10:49.38thulPHL-Chuck: yeah
10:49.50GrumAB is boring, get a good team, position 6-7 people between 3 POI's and just keep em .. its .. yawn
10:49.59PHL-Chuckblizz messes with horde in AB, I always seem to start at like 7 horde 15 allies
10:50.05PHL-Chuckthey always get a jump
10:50.20theoddone33yeah everything is a yawn when you're playing against teams with much less coordination/gear/skill than your own
10:50.21MegalonGrum: every bg is boring with 'a good team'
10:50.38Ordogav is not boring with a good team :)
10:50.50Ordogof 48
10:50.51GrumMegalon: you can win AB only in one way, having more bases than the other. EOTS isnt that 'simple'
10:50.52Ordog38
10:50.56PHL-ChuckI just like poly random people in AV and blow them up
10:50.59theoddone33I don't think a good team is possible in AV
10:51.07FinalXtheoddone33: 2000 for alliance, 1961 for horde yesterday, same game, alli started out with 15, we started out with 3 players
10:51.10MegalonGrum: lol? eots: the team with 3 bases wins
10:51.13Ordogwe do premade 38ish raid grp in av daily
10:51.18Grumtheoddone33: get 8 5xmultibox people? ;D
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10:51.29Xinhuanmagtheridon nerf lol
10:51.42GrumMegalon: but due to the distances between bases its *so* easy to take a base
10:51.47Xinhuanmind exhaustion changed to 35 secs so you only need 5 clickers instead of 10
10:51.50Ordogsadly blizz will enbable join as group for alliance in the next patch too
10:51.53Xinhuaninfernals removed from fight
10:51.55Ordogno fun ;P
10:51.56GrumXinhuan: lol nerged again
10:51.59GrumWHAT?
10:52.02Gruminfernals gone?
10:52.03Grumhahahaa
10:52.10Grumdid they remove the channelers as well?
10:52.23Xinhuanmagtheridon changed to drop 500gold (about 20g per person), a 20-slot bag, 3 T4 tokens, and a gem bag containing epic gems
10:52.29Arrowmasterwtf?
10:52.33Arrowmasterwow
10:52.35GrumXinhuan: you are making this up ;D
10:52.38Arrowmasterwe are so doing mag every week
10:52.41Xinhuancheck mmo-champ ~_~
10:52.57Arrowmastersince we can just make 3-4 groups and keep him banished the entire fight
10:52.58Megaloncheck elitistjerks 2.4 thread
10:52.58Megalon:x
10:53.02PHL-Chuckwhats 20g anyway, 8% of the tanks durability?
10:53.27Xinhuanits an improvement over the 2g you get currently
10:53.33Megalonthe bag is not unique according to posts on elitistjerks
10:53.39Xinhuandoes magtheiridon even drop gold?
10:53.43Xinhuanin the first place?
10:53.47nevcairiel20g is like 40% of a tanks durability
10:53.57GrumThe Vials of Eternity quest is no longer necessary for entry to Hyjal. This quest is still required for faction rings. <-- that one is good
10:54.02Arrowmasterso what, who doesnt already have all 20 slot bags including all 7 bank slots?
10:54.07Grumnevcairiel: nah, 20g is 40-50% orso
10:54.09HobbyYes, they all drop gold
10:54.09PHL-Chuckheck not according to the tank I had in ZA tonight
10:54.16PHL-Chuckmaybe he was lying
10:54.38Arrowmasteror MT spends about 60g a night on repairs for BT
10:54.40Arrowmasterour
10:54.41Grum- Jan’alai will now only teleport players to him if they are too far away. <-- kek you can do more dmg then and no stupid cast interrupts ftw
10:54.52GrumArrowmaster: you wipe a lot?
10:54.56Arrowmasterno
10:54.58Arrowmasterthats max
10:55.05Arrowmasterfor a very long night
10:55.45GrumXinhuan: link the info, i cant find it on mmo champ, just that 'gameplay will change'
10:56.06Xinhuanafk, illidan ;p
10:56.19theoddone33http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665322479 that's me getting angry
10:56.25Hobbyhe's not afk, i checked earlier
10:56.25theoddone33I'm so persuasive
10:57.09Grumah Xinhuan, found it - forum post
10:57.18Grumlol someone states: I miss Mag v1, when everyone was in KZ gear and he was mildly hard and you couldn't skip him for Void Reaver. Those were the days :'(
10:57.36Arrowmasterhe was fun then
10:57.59nevcairielGrum: i totally agree with that person
10:58.06Arrowmasterim happy to say that i got keyed for TK before they removed the keying requirement
10:58.11Hobbybattlemaster as a proc per time limit doesn't it?
10:58.26ArrowmasterHobby: battlemaster sucks for pve
10:58.33FinalXapparantly it doesn't
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10:58.43Arrowmasterdid they buff it?
10:59.12theoddone33hm I should quit again
10:59.21FinalX"The proc on this enchant must have a very brief CD if it even has one. During a single pull in SH the other day it proc'd twice on the same single trash mob. The procs could not have been more than fifteen seconds apart."
10:59.23theoddone33last time lasted for a whole month
10:59.26Hobbyused to be that 5 rogues in an instance all with dual battlemaster was pretty fun to watch
10:59.36Arrowmastera few of our warriors got it way back when somebody first got it on our server and said it sucked majorly complete waste of mats
10:59.44Ordogwtf the Reputation PvP sets buyable from faction vendors are quite s2ish ?
10:59.58nevcairielOrdog: the blue crap items?
11:00.01FinalXo.O?
11:00.23Grumnevcairiel: tbh, i've seen magtheridon v1 - it was not so much fun
11:00.33Gruminfernals hitting for 5-7k on cloth
11:00.43nevcairielGrum: i killed magtheridon v1
11:00.48Arrowmasterit was fun
11:00.50Hobbyare you offtanking or main tanking final
11:00.54FinalXmt
11:01.02Ordognevcairiel ye they look like s1 purple by stats do they?
11:01.04Arrowmasterbecause you got to yell at people for fucking up
11:01.14SunTsunevcairiel: Congratulations, must be kind of hard soloing him ;)
11:01.22FinalX(so also lots of chances when reckoning procs)
11:01.29theoddone33wait a second
11:01.32nevcairielaltho changing the cubes that you only need 10 and not 20 people was a big relief
11:01.35HobbyIf you want more threat, I'd get Battlemaster, if you want more avoidance and such I'd get Mongoose
11:01.50theoddone33are the sunwell tokens only for the belt/bracer/boots?
11:01.56AntiarcIf you want more threat, get executioner
11:02.02theoddone33wow that's a real non-issue if so
11:02.03Grumthose warden packs .. O M G
11:02.08Arrowmasterhmm actually i dont think i killed mag v1 since he was nerfed once before they removed the tk/ssc attunements
11:02.15Grumwe pushed him to ~25% orso
11:02.21Grumand then the patch came that nerfed him ..
11:02.35GrumArrowmaster: you killed v2 then
11:02.50Arrowmasteryeah the 2 cube group version
11:02.51Grumwhich is the current version
11:02.59Grumerm we have v3 now
11:03.00Arrowmasterno they nerfed him after that too
11:03.49Grumwell atm it doesnt apply the 'cubeclick debuff' if you dont succesfully banish
11:03.58Grumwhich is a big fat nerf over the last version
11:04.06Arrowmasteryeah v2 wasnt like that
11:04.09FinalXHobby: I'll get Mongoose on either my Suneater or King's Defender once they drop :) And Executioner is rock-bottom useless for a tankadin.
11:04.25Grumalso, you can keep clicking the cube the whole fight, there is no timer on it anymore
11:04.43Grumnormally if you clicked too soon (4-5 seconds) you could 'disconnect' just before he got banished
11:04.50Grumand wipe the raid because you needed 5 new people ><
11:04.53FinalX...Suneater and King's Defender are useless in most fights as well, perhaps only useful at bosses, spelldmg weapns > them.. crystalforged sword is nice, but gladiator's gavel is nicer
11:05.05HobbySo now you need 4 non-retarded people to finish the fight instead of 12?
11:05.12Grum5
11:05.16Hobbyoh right
11:05.17Hobbytank
11:05.17Gruminstead of 10
11:05.32HobbyI counted 2 for cube backups
11:05.35Grum2 healers+1 tank+5 clickers
11:05.50FinalXSo hence the dilemma.. 40 spelldmg or Battlemaster, Battlemaster is nice for the healing procs, even if it's just for yourself, also gives decent extra threat, but 40 spelldmg might be handier for Consecrate.. hm.
11:06.00Grumspelldmg.
11:06.06Arrowmasterspelldmg
11:06.13Arrowmasteryou wont get much threat from battlemaster
11:06.13Grumbattlemaster aggro generation is minimal to say the least
11:06.21Grumkek
11:06.22HobbyWhat extra threat on battlemaster do you mean?
11:06.29Arrowmasterits only healing threat
11:06.30Grum+250 healing on the group by you
11:06.31Grumorso
11:06.37FinalXhmhm
11:06.39Hobbyiirc, there's no threat
11:06.42Grumso that is 1.25*1.6 threat per heal
11:06.43FinalXthere is
11:06.45Arrowmasterand overhealing doesnt cause threat
11:06.45Grumthere is Hobby
11:06.46Hobbyassociated with the heal proc
11:06.53FinalXoverhealing doesn't, healing does
11:06.55AntiarcGrum: Divided by the number of mobs you're in combat with
11:06.59Grumyup
11:07.03Grumits global .. rawryay
11:07.28FinalXbut spelldmg is *only* threat, battlemaster also heals quite decently.. think i'll go for spelldmg though >.>
11:07.35GrumAntiarc: how does that work, what if I as healer have 10 mobs with aggro on me, and i heal a tank that has aggro of 10 mobs
11:07.42Grumwill it spread over all 20? or just over 'his' 10 ?
11:07.52AntiarcGrum: It's determined by any mobs that you are on a threat list for
11:07.55GrumFinalX: if you depend on healing from battlemaster you need better healers
11:08.00AntiarcWhen you heal that guy, you get on the threat list for his 10
11:08.00Arrowmasteras a tank if the heal from battlemaster is EVER useful then something is fucking wrong
11:08.04AntiarcSo it's heal / 20
11:08.27Grumok, so assuming the 10 mobs on me do not have him on the aggro list it only applies on 10 mobs?
11:08.35Grum(this 10 mobs)
11:08.38Grum*his
11:08.55Xinhuanwhen you heal him, you enter combat with ALL his mobs too.
11:08.59AntiarcNo, it's divided by the number of mobs that see you, not your target
11:09.32Grumah k, so a mob sees me healing and therefor i generate aggro, the second i land a heal on him his mobs 'aggro' me and thus all 20?
11:09.45AntiarcCorrect
11:10.02Grumdid they change that? because this makes AOE healing quite possible tbh ^^
11:10.13Xinhuanbeen like that for years?
11:10.17Grumand explains why paladin tanks are so utterly godly on it :P
11:10.24GrumXinhuan: k :)
11:11.00Arrowmasteryeah since they arent limited to a small number of mobs to generate aggro on at once
11:11.09AntiarcGrum: No, always been like that
11:11.23Arrowmasterwe do hyjal with 4 warlocks
11:11.26AntiarcGrum: But threat-per-healing is going to be hindered
11:11.32Arrowmastertheres always somebody pulling aggro
11:11.49Grumi wonder, we'd normally kill (around T5) magtheridon in about 12-13 minutes
11:11.49Grumi wonder how fast you can kill him now
11:11.52Grumprolly 7-8 minutes orso
11:11.52AntiarcIf you don't have RF up, then due to the paladin threat penalty, a 6k heal with 10 mobs = 1.5k / 10 = 150 threat per mob
11:11.59ArrowmasterGrum: much much less
11:12.07Arrowmastersince you can keep him banished the entire fight
11:12.13GrumLOL really?
11:12.18Arrowmasterwell in 2.4
11:12.19[VM]Mysticfox...ddOns\Omen\Libs\Threat-2.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:1018: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'threat' (a nil value) <- Omen r61879
11:12.25GrumArrowmaster: oooh ofc lol ..
11:12.26Antiarc[VM]Mysticfox: Have a stack trace?
11:12.29Grumand banished = +50% dmg orso?
11:12.31[VM]Mysticfoxneed to install a better addon to capture errors
11:12.36Arrowmaster+100% i thought
11:12.36Antiarc[VM]Mysticfox: Class?
11:12.40[VM]Mysticfoxnope, just default blizzard lua error
11:12.41[VM]Mysticfoxmage.
11:12.45AntiarcCOunterspelled?
11:12.50[VM]Mysticfoxlogged on casted a couple fireballs
11:12.55[VM]Mysticfoxand I get that error
11:12.55AntiarcOkay. Thanks
11:12.59GrumArrowmaster: and the locks/hunters can actually engage on the channelers who have -10% hp
11:13.00Arrowmasteralthough it means almost no rage for the tank
11:13.08Grumuse MD+POM :P
11:13.09[VM]Mysticfoxjust casting a couple fireballs on some mobs around the new sunwell isle
11:13.15GrumPOM is perfect for massive aggro ;D
11:13.24nevcairielits not that much tbh
11:13.41Hobbyyay turtle poly drop
11:13.45Grumassuming it heals full (which it should because no hit is <1800) you get 900 threat
11:13.54ArrowmasterGrum: but if hes banished the tank wont get hit
11:14.00Grumtrue :p
11:14.04Grumtake no tank!
11:14.05Grum;D
11:14.07AntiarcOkay, this is fun -
11:14.19Hobbysee Grum, it's 4 now!
11:14.19Arrowmasterpally tank might be best for doing that trick but might need innervated or to bring darkrunes
11:14.29AntiarcYou can't link the Feign Death spell
11:14.39AntiarcTry it. You can't from the spellbook, or with GetSpellLink
11:14.41Grumyou need 2 tanks for the channelers
11:14.48Grumthe first one can just be stunlocked by rogues :D
11:14.57Hobbymage tank
11:14.58Grumwith 20k dps it falls fast =D
11:15.26GrumAntiarc: that is lame
11:15.44Hobbyyeah I'm gonna go get some sleep....I accidentally went into Al'ar casting fireballs earlier
11:15.48Hobbyprobably a bit out of it
11:15.52GrumHellfire Channeler: Health: 240,000
11:16.03Grumso that is 216k after patch - that is 12 seconds at max :)
11:16.16Grumtimes 5 ..
11:16.25Grumyou will be waiting 1 minute before Mag releases O.o
11:16.28GrumOMG NREF!
11:16.32Arrowmasterlol
11:16.32ZealotOnAStickurgh.
11:16.48Grumyou can prolly AOE the channelers if you have an interrupt on each of em
11:16.51ZealotOnAStickSo uh, where precisely the hell IS TinyTipModules?
11:16.58nevcairielGrum: a normal t4 group will probably take all the time stipp
11:16.59Fth|Daemonahey Antiarc how is the 2.4 branch coming along?
11:17.07nevcairielZealotOnAStick: in Thrae's mind
11:17.11Grumso stunlock the first, gather the others up behind magtheridon and just AOE the crap out of em
11:17.24AntiarcChugging along :)
11:17.29AntiarcWorking on hunter/pet threat right now
11:17.36AntiarcAnd I can't detect FD because...FD isn't linkable
11:17.38Grumlol they actually made Magtheridon easier than Gruul
11:17.39AntiarcWhich is lame.
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11:17.42Fth|Daemonagrabbed a revisioon from half an hour ago and um dont see anything yet ;)
11:17.59Grumgruul is actually a gear/nub-check, magtheridon was a tactics check
11:18.07nevcairielAntiarc: wasnt FD kinda smart, and the combatlog just attributed the dmg to the FD target directly?
11:18.44Grumoooh, you shoudl take 5 tanks and AOE em from the start
11:18.54Grumand have those 5 tanks be the cubeclickers :P
11:19.21Antiarcnevcairiel: Eh?
11:19.26AntiarcThere's nothing in the combat log about FD
11:19.26Grumwith 20k hp healing should not be needed
11:19.27nevcairielwonder if i can get a hunter to test that
11:19.31AntiarcIt requires special handling :/
11:19.44Funkeh`lol
11:19.45Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665622495&postId=46649443477&sid=1#0
11:19.47Funkeh`lvl 5?
11:19.58Grumhe just has 4.8m HP so that is 240 seconds .. 4 minutes .. mmm
11:20.04Grumso 7 minutes max :D
11:20.38nevcairielAntiarc: nvm me, i got some stuff mixed up :P
11:20.58Brunersis it possibel to have recount turn itselfe off automaticly when you enter a battleground?
11:21.31Orionshock^^ should do that by default
11:22.04Orionshockbtw, any reason grid's toc didn't get bump'ed for 2.3?
11:22.26Orionshockshow up as outdated in WAU
11:22.38Brunersmaby it is
11:23.47Atronorion: latest build of socd is working?
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11:24.56Orionshockusualy always is
11:24.57Orionshockwhy?
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11:25.09Atroni pulled it last night from svn
11:25.13OrionshockAtron: btw, i moved it to the ace svn,
11:25.14Atronit doesnt load
11:25.33Atronseems like wow doesnt recognize it (i have ace3)
11:25.34Orionshockso nix socdV5 from your addons
11:25.35sag_ich_nicht[12:25] <Atron> i pulled it last night from svn <--that's what she said
11:25.39Orionshockand install via WAU
11:26.37Atronwhats wrong with using an svn browser?
11:26.47nevcairielnothing
11:27.07Orionshocknothing, just it's not being maintainted at googecode anymore :P
11:27.17Atronoh
11:27.37nevcairielbut if its on WAU you can get it from the WoWAce svn
11:27.38sag_ich_nichtif you know what you're doing... iirc SVN doesn't change embeds.xml :P
11:27.55Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:28.00nevcairielwhy would you need to change embeds.xml?
11:28.03Atronthats where i can grab it from nevcairiel
11:28.13sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: no-ext install vs. install with exts
11:28.25Orionshockfiles.wowace.com/SickOfClickingDailiys/SickOfClickingDailies.zip
11:28.26nevcairielwhy would you need to change embeds.xml?
11:28.36Orionshockor svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies
11:28.39Atroni already have a list of all the new dailies if you are interested orionshock
11:29.01sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: well normally you clean it out with a no-ext install... now don't ask me why, i can't remember :P
11:29.16nevcairielsure you _can_
11:29.19nevcairielbut you dont have to
11:29.23nevcairielit'll work equally well
11:29.28Atronorion: thats the v5?
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11:30.40OrionshockAtron: not really :D
11:31.04OrionshockAtron: yes the aceSVN one is v5 now
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11:31.10sag_ich_nichti hope this doesn't mean there is S4 in 2.4... *loads mmo-champion*
11:31.25sag_ich_nichtgah
11:31.30sag_ich_nichtplease kill yourself blizzard thank you
11:31.31sag_ich_nicht-_-
11:31.48Atronwho cares
11:31.59Atronlet them have s4 :)
11:33.00Xinhuanthere will be s4, but it'll be in patch 2.5 lol
11:33.05Xinhuanwhich should be around june
11:33.17sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: got a bluepost on that? :P
11:33.23Xinhuanno blue post but its common sense
11:33.25Atronwho said there will be patch 2.5?
11:33.32Xinhuanthink about it, if there's no s4, then s3 will last about 10 months
11:33.35Orionshock..imo, nix the whole arena system
11:33.36Xinhuanthat won't happen
11:33.41Orionshockit's bad for the game
11:33.49ElkanoXinhuan, it's in 2.4 so more likely S4 will start with a 2.4.x patch
11:33.56Xinhuannah, there will be a 2.5 :)
11:34.09Xinhuanwith the 2.4.x stuff as well
11:34.12SunTsuXinhuan: Wasn't there a blue post that 2.4 will be the last patch bevor WotLK=
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11:34.19Antiarc* Badges of Justice have been added to all raid bosses who did not previously have them!
11:34.21Antiarc:O :O :O
11:34.24Xinhuanthat blue post is also about 6 months old SunTsu
11:34.25SunTsuContent patch, that is
11:37.03Atroneverything related to sunwell will be patched as 2.4
11:37.28Atronby june or july there will be beta phase for wotlk
11:39.38sag_ich_nicht^probably true, i expect a release by october or november
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11:39.52Atronjanuary same as bc
11:39.59sag_ich_nichtdoubt that
11:40.11sag_ich_nichtvenvendi and blizzard want it out in 2008
11:40.31sag_ich_nichtif they have to they'll release it on dec. 31th
11:40.31Atroni think they have starcraft2 for 2008
11:40.39sag_ich_nichtnaaaah
11:40.47sag_ich_nichtSC2 won't come until 2009, way too much balancing
11:41.01Atronorion: im a sad panda now :(
11:41.05sag_ich_nichtif they game isn't immediatly perfectly balanced on release the koreans will shit themself
11:41.37OrionshockAtron: ?
11:41.46Atronfor not adding the new dailies :)
11:41.53xyu`wow mage AE cap increased 50%  woo
11:42.02sag_ich_nicht+we'll probably have a 3rd game announced in paris
11:42.03sag_ich_nichtwhich reminds me
11:42.06sag_ich_nichti need tickets
11:42.43Atronthat should be fun
11:44.04Fth|Daemonawho needs tickets for a invitational event? ^^
11:44.10xyu`Primal Nether are no longer Bind on Pickup!   wow that kind of sucks.  my monopoly will crumble!!
11:44.18OrionshockAtron: after patch i'll think about it
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11:48.15CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61891 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua:
11:48.15CIA-12LibQuixote-2.0:
11:48.15CIA-12-Expand :GetQuestByUid's returns.
11:48.15CIA-12-Add :GetQuestText.
11:49.07Orionshocknow what does Quixote mean?
11:49.50KemayoWell, it's a reference to Don Quixote, he of the impossible questing.  In this case, though, it's just a lib for quest log access and events.
11:49.56Orionshock~dict Quixote
11:50.12Grumwhy not .. just .. call .. it .. LibQuest? O.o
11:50.36Orionshock~wiki Quixote
11:50.44CIA-1203antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61892 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
11:50.44CIA-12Threat-2.0:
11:50.44CIA-12- Mage counterspell fix
11:50.44CIA-12- Hunter Feign Death fix
11:50.44CIA-12- Pet module fixes
11:50.57SunTsu.o0( I hope users of LibQuixote will never encounter wind mills )
11:51.05Grum;D
11:51.19Megalon4-armed giants you mean!
11:51.24KemayoPah.  There is no romance in anyone's soul.
11:51.28SunTsuMegalon: Er, yes, I do ;)
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11:52.02Megalonbtw
11:52.10Megalonwhere is LibSanchoPanza
11:52.10Megalon:<
11:52.54Orionshock... what we really need to fill the heads of the masses
11:52.59Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:53.26Orionshocknow that'll fk with people
11:53.32KemayoI guess it could be horribly appropriate to have a party quest communications library called LibSancho.
11:53.43Grumwhaaaaaaaaa
11:53.46Grumjust name em normally
11:53.51Grumso people will know what they do :(
11:53.58Grumstop being python ...
11:55.44sag_ich_nichtaaaaaaaaaaand i got a job interview
11:55.45sag_ich_nicht8D
11:55.50SunTsuKemayo: If you ever plan to make a mount library, LibRocinante ftw! ;)
11:55.55sag_ich_nichtmost excellent.
11:56.27SunTsusag_ich_nicht: Then, good luck
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11:56.44sag_ich_nichtthanks
11:58.05Fth|DaemonaAntiarc 2 questions... 1. threat-2.0 is not backwards compatible to threat-1.0 ? and 2. Pitbull and aloft seem to choke when threat-2.0 is present
11:58.41Antiarc1. no, they can't co-exist, 2. details?
11:58.56Xinhuanwell given a choice, would you choose to disable threat-2.0, or disable aloft or pitbull? ;d
11:58.57Fth|Daemonaa sec, grabbing the last rev and restarting wow, will pastey then
11:59.09Fth|DaemonaXinhuan its about debugging on the ptr...
11:59.18MegalonSunTsu: or LibJenna :P
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11:59.25Atronthere should be no need to disable anything
11:59.38Xinhuanthreat-2.0 doesn't interact with anything outside itself
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11:59.55SunTsuMegalon: Nah, that would be out of the picture, but speaking of pictures.. ;)
11:59.59Xinhuanso if anything is broken, its likely that aloft or pitbull has to adjust to threat-2.0
12:01.29Fth|Daemonahmm the aloft error is gone Antiarc will pastey those 17 other errors quickly
12:02.44KalrothAntiarc isn't human.
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12:03.13nevcairielno wonder that addons trying to use Threat-1.0 will probably just choke when they find 2.0
12:03.20KalrothLast time he slept was around wednesday last week.
12:03.31AntiarcHeh, I sleep :P
12:03.35AntiarcJust usually 5-6 hours
12:03.47SunTsuAntiarc: A week? ;)
12:03.52AntiarcPer night :P
12:04.16Fth|DaemonaAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/82544
12:04.17AntiarcIt's close to my bedtime as is. Starting to slow down a bit.
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12:04.26AntiarcFth|Daemona: Yeah, that's using the old Threat-1.0 API. It's not going to work, I'm afraid.
12:04.46Fth|Daemonaand output to 2.4 branch omen for visials isnt implemented yet?
12:04.54Fth|Daemonavisuals -.-
12:05.04AntiarcIt's working, but hasn't been heavily tested
12:05.05CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61894 10FramesResized/ (FramesResized.toc embeds.xml):
12:05.05CIA-12FramesResized
12:05.05CIA-12- use embeds.xml too
12:05.13Fth|Daemonak, then its not working for me ;)
12:05.21sag_ich_nicht[13:02] <Kalroth> Antiarc isn't human. <--don't confuse Antiarc and Xinhuan please, thank you.
12:05.34nevcairielAntiarc: your latest Omen commit .. the Single Target files are no longer referenced in the .toc :)
12:05.44sag_ich_nichtthey are both awesome, but one of them will actually look into a problem if you bitch at him long enough and catch him in the right moment
12:05.44sag_ich_nicht:P
12:05.52Kalrothsag_ich_nicht: Antiarc is still a sentient being, Xinhuan a program of some sort.
12:06.01sag_ich_nichtKalroth: correct
12:06.08sag_ich_nichtsometimes i exploit a buffer overflow in it
12:06.44KalrothI mean, you can sucker Antiarc into fixing stuff with boobies. To sucker Xinhuan into something, you have to promise him a memory upgrade.
12:08.09Xinhuan;d
12:08.23Grumdont forget to send Xinhuan some nutricious bits
12:08.35Xinhuanwts illidan chain wipes at 20ish %
12:08.39Grum;(
12:08.54Grumwhat went wrong?
12:08.54CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61895 10Minimalist/ (Minimalist.toc embeds.xml): Minimalist: - use embeds.xml
12:08.54Xinhuanstupid stuff
12:08.58KalrothHealers forgot to heal?!
12:09.01Xinhuan^
12:09.44KalrothWe had a fun phase 2 wipe last night. 3 healers on left flame. First healer heals third healer, second healer heals himself and third healer goes offline.
12:09.57KalrothPoor druid lasted for about 6-7 seconds without heals. :)
12:10.40CIA-1203hegarol * r61896 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
12:10.40CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
12:10.40CIA-12- Sunwell update
12:11.07CIA-1203hegarol * r61897 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
12:11.07CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
12:11.07CIA-12- Reputation PvP sets added
12:11.56CIA-1203hegarol * r61898 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua:
12:11.56CIA-12AtlasLoot:
12:11.56CIA-12- Reputation PvP sets added
12:12.13Xinhuanwe had a case
12:12.15Xinhuanwhere the lock tank
12:12.19Xinhuangot DOUBLE demoned
12:12.24Kalrothow
12:12.26Xinhuanthat was so bullshit
12:12.27Grumwe had a single one last night
12:12.37Grumand that was fatal
12:12.45Grumits impressive how bad people are at killing those things
12:13.02Atronslow them down with crippling poison
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12:13.11nevcairielwe had one on warlock too, but went quite smooth
12:13.22Xinhuanat 46% atm
12:13.26nevcairielour prot pally threw his shield at the demon
12:13.26Atronat least one rogue spamming shiv
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12:17.14Xinhuan30%
12:17.18sag_ich_nicht<PROTECTED>
12:17.20XinhuanRping, better kill zz
12:17.23sag_ich_nichtgreat job blizzard, you are retarded
12:17.36sag_ich_nichtespecially since this ALLOWS me to bring a bottle of water
12:17.38sag_ich_nichterm
12:17.39sag_ich_nichta bottle
12:17.44sag_ich_nichtit just has to be empty
12:17.51sag_ich_nichtthen i go and fill it AT blizzcon with water
12:17.55nevcairielgratz on a empty bottle
12:17.59xyu`I'm sure there won't be drinking fountains
12:18.01xyu`for you to fill it up
12:18.02sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: i can still fill it there.
12:18.03xyu`there'll be stands
12:18.08KalrothXinhuan: Be gone, foul demon!
12:18.09xyu`<PROTECTED>
12:18.33sag_ich_nichtxyu`: oh REALLY? there will be toilets. toilets with SINKS
12:18.40Atronthat is their way of making profit (bottles are not allowed)
12:18.48sag_ich_nichtbottles are allowed
12:18.49nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: they just fear liquid explosives, they're americans =P
12:19.00xyu`Once you fill it up, it will be a "bottle of water" no?
12:19.03xyu`and thus, not allowed
12:19.14Atrondrinking water from a toiler (no thanks)
12:19.17Atrontoilet*
12:19.29sag_ich_nichtAtron you are confusing SINKS with TOILETS
12:19.38sag_ich_nicht[13:19] <xyu`> Once you fill it up, it will be a "bottle of water" no? <--true, but read the sentence again
12:19.40nevcairielstill a sink in a toilett
12:19.47Atronits still water from a toilet
12:19.50Atronheh
12:19.55sag_ich_nichtmay not be brought into
12:19.57xyu`yes yes, i see brought
12:19.59sag_ich_nichti don't bring it in.
12:20.05sag_ich_nichti create it while i am already inside.
12:20.08xyu`i hardly think securit is going ti give a shit about your reasoning :P
12:20.08sag_ich_nichtoh shi-
12:20.11xyu`or what some webpage said
12:20.15xyu`security*
12:20.22nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: tell that crap to the security guard escorting you outside
12:20.23sag_ich_nichti think i'll write down their house order
12:20.23nevcairiel:P
12:20.24Mikkor it's possible that they're fine with said bottles being inside
12:20.25sag_ich_nichtand read it to them
12:20.30Mikkand that they just check you on entrance
12:20.31Baldor_workooh, i just noticed there's a proximo2. Anybody tried it?
12:20.50xyu`I do however, agree, that it is BS to not allow water to be brought.
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12:21.17Atronits not as i said they need to make profit
12:21.24sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: as i already said, i'll read them their own house order, and then they can't do jackshit UNLESS they want me to scandalize them :P
12:21.34nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: like they care
12:21.40Grumi wonder how many people you will need to kill Magtheridon
12:21.52xyu`i think they can hire better lawyers than you :P
12:22.02Chompershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxyZaZlaOs
12:22.10nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: its their event, they can let in and throw out who they want for whatever reason they want
12:22.54sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: a security guard is only allowed to follow these orders lern2europe, they can invoke the whole "undesirable alien" thing, but for that they'll have to get a superior, and trust me, 9/10 securities are too lazy for that
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12:23.29sag_ich_nichtotherwise we could just re-create the fucking stasi
12:23.40nevcairielany half-assed rules thing includes a rule "everyone has to follow the orders of our security"
12:23.58nevcairielits a fucking private event
12:24.05nevcairielthey can do what they want
12:24.06Atrongrum: you dont need any
12:24.13Atronhe clicks the cubes for you now
12:24.18Grumkek
12:24.40sag_ich_nicht[13:23] <nevcairiel> any half-assed rules thing includes a rule "everyone has to follow the orders of our security" <--that kind of rules is illegal sorry to tell you, as i said, lern2europe :(
12:24.50nevcairielits not for private events
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12:25.26nevcairieland since its no public event of some sort
12:25.50Maldiviahmm... looking at the LibGUIDRegistry code... what will happen in a cross-realm BG, if 2 people have the same name, since it doesn't seem the second return from UnitName isnt used (and can't remember if realm is part of name in the combat log event)
12:26.12sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: this has nothing to do with events, this is about property. the securities can hold you, but they can't kick you out, only a superior who is a representive of the owner of the property, and trust me, you DON'T want the security guards declared as THAT :P
12:26.37nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: they can allow their guards whatever they need to, look it up
12:26.45sag_ich_nichtno u
12:27.25sag_ich_nichtand this ends this discussion for now, since i have to leave now :P
12:27.26GrumMaldivia: why would you bother with threat in BG? :)
12:27.28sag_ich_nichtbye :P
12:27.48Grumor humz it might have applications for dps-statistics as well
12:27.57Grumbut still, dps in BG? :P
12:28.02nevcairielsag_ich_nicht: all you say is true for public events, but such a event does not classify as public .P
12:29.05MaldiviaGrum: well, it can also cause the name->guild table to be poluted, so a later lookup will return the wrong guid
12:29.23Maldiviagrr... s/guild/guid/
12:29.49Grumwell, there is never an unique name->guid translation
12:29.58Grumas names are not unique, guids are
12:30.16Grumso it should return you a list of 'possible suspects' (list of GUIDs)
12:30.38Maldiviawell, name->guid is unique for players (within the battlegroup)
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12:31.51XinhuanOH YEAH [The Skull of Gul'dan] WIN
12:31.56Xinhuannow i can look like an imp
12:32.11Stanzillagrats!
12:35.02KalrothXinhuan: You go, girl!
12:35.11Xinhuancorrection, i'm a bot
12:35.40KalrothI know, all of my software is female.
12:35.56KalrothIt's easier to explain unpredicted functionality that way :P
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12:38.25Xinhuan:o
12:39.03Stanzillahttp://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9676/gmracialssq6.jpg < :(
12:39.35nevcairielyay
12:39.42nevcairielin your face dwarves
12:39.59nevcairieland tauren too!
12:40.00KalrothStanzilla: When was the last time you spoke to a GM with a clue?
12:40.03MaldiviaI'll believe it when I see it :)
12:40.14StanzillaKalroth: not my screenshot^^
12:40.19Pkekyo|edudefine 'remove racials'?
12:40.25KalrothI know, I've seen it before.
12:40.34Pkekyo|edubasicly, my warrior will lose warstomp and 1,5k hp?
12:40.37nevcairielbyebye stoneform, byebye escape artits, byebye warstomp :P
12:40.42Mikkand wotf
12:40.46Maldiviano more desperate prayer for priests, no more warstomp, no more escape artist, no more stoneform?
12:40.47nevcairiel\o/
12:40.53KalrothPkekyo|: No, basically that GM got no idea what he's on about.
12:40.59|Pixel|will of the forsaken
12:41.03Maldiviadevouring plague?
12:41.12Pkekyo|eduI bloody well hope he doesn't, I'd fucking go on a murderous rampage
12:41.13Mikkstarshards!!!!!!!
12:41.14Kalroth+5 expertise to orcs!
12:41.16Mikko wait noone cared about that
12:41.38JoshBorketouch of weakness!
12:41.46Maldiviashadowmeld
12:41.54nevcairielshadowmeld isnt that bad to loose :P
12:42.03FinalXMaldivia: Don't know about racial priest spells, they're unique to priests..
12:42.08JoshBorkeshadowmeld is op'd
12:42.16Maldiviashadowmeld + drinknig for druids :9
12:42.47Kalrothshadowmeld + stealth for rogues!11
12:44.02Maldiviabut I still doubt racials will be disabled in arenas... they are a huge part of a players pvp strategies
12:44.09sylvanaarmikk! giev chathooklib!
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12:46.13Mikkgroumf!
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12:47.54sylvanaaror send me a copy so i can mess with it - the WIM guy stole my thunder
12:48.00|Pixel|they won't
12:48.04|Pixel|come on, this is a blatant fake :)
12:48.09|Pixel|how a GM could be named like that ?
12:48.11Pkekyo|eduI'd fucking sodomize ALL blizzard personel with nuclear explosive devices if they took away my moocow racials
12:48.25|Pixel|"Xeqtrr"
12:48.45|Pixel|that's the name of a gold farmer, not a GM :)
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12:50.34Grum|Pixel|: the english is way too good to be of a farmer;D
12:51.10Maldivia|Pixel|: or apparenty, the name of both a druid and a warrior on the Cenarius US realm (according to armory)
12:51.25|Pixel|my point would rather be it's a private server :P
12:51.28|Pixel|or a fake
12:51.41|Pixel|(or both)
12:52.04Grumquite easy to fake tbh
12:52.07Maldiviayeah, not like it's hard to prefix <GM> to a random name in chat .)
12:52.23thulI kind of like my stomp
12:52.27thulwarstomp that is
12:52.31thulbut it isn't very versatile tbh
12:52.40thulI like my ud warriors WOTF much better
12:52.45thuland my human perception
12:52.47Pkekyo|edumeh, tuaren ftw
12:52.52Pkekyo|edutuaren > teh all
12:52.55nevcairielbut how stupid would one be to fake a GM with such a stupid name?
12:53.11Maldiviatake the average wow player...
12:53.22nevcairieli see your point
12:53.28|Pixel|=)
12:54.27Grumlua> 2^31
12:54.28lua_botGrum: 2147483648
12:54.52Grumlua> 2^31/10000/330
12:54.53lua_botGrum: 650.75262060606
12:55.08Grumhumz thats quite long
12:55.26Maldiviaquite long what?
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12:56.10Grumto get max gold at a rate of 330g a day
12:56.13|Pixel|btw, is it just me or are the news websites so much focused on the 2.4 that they missed the announce of the arena tournament ?
12:56.17nevcairiellol Grum
12:56.22Grum^^
12:56.31nevcairielarena tournaments are boring
12:56.34nevcairielwho cares!
12:56.37nevcairielwtb sunwell infos
12:56.38Kalroth|Pixel|: Missing != ignoring. :)
12:56.46|Pixel|I could get bored for $200.000 no problem
12:56.48KalrothArena is boring indeed.
12:56.51FinalXnevcairiel just proved Grum's point of people caring more for PvE then PvP :P
12:56.53thularena is fun
12:56.54thulgreat fun
12:56.57thulpve is boring
12:57.09Kalroththul: Sure. There's also people that think math is fun!
12:57.12Xinhuanarena is boring, same old shit every game
12:57.13thulmath IS fun
12:57.14Grumyeah its so much fun that you have queues for it! ><
12:57.19Kalroththul: I rest my case.
12:57.19Xinhuanyou either gank or get ganked!
12:57.29Grumthul: that i can agree on .. math++
12:57.42nevcairiel|Pixel|: people that actually play in the upper league already know i bet .. for the rest of the world .. watching arenas .. boooooring
12:58.17|Pixel|well, my point is that "news" websites should just post... "news" ? :P
12:58.54Poul|Raiderwhat addon should i use for scrolling combat text?`(used the default for like a year now so have no clue if thers anything new or i should just go for hte old scrollingcombattext addon)
12:59.04nevcairielPoul|Raider: MSBT imho
12:59.12SunTsuPoul|Raider: Parrot or MSBT
12:59.51Poul|Raiderwhich one is most popular? and whats the differents of those 2?
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13:01.03nevcairieldunno, i just like MSBTs style
13:01.20Grumhow do you mean 'style'? how it is visually?
13:01.22CivrockWTB one that works on the PTR. ;)
13:01.28nevcairielGrum. yea
13:01.34Grumhow is it different nevcairiel ?
13:01.46nevcairielno idea, never used parrot
13:01.55nevcairielbut i like MSBT, so no need to change
13:01.55Poul|Raiderhmm, cant find msbt, what do it stand for, on files.wowace.com
13:02.05nevcairielMSBT is on wowinterface.com
13:02.23nevcairielhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html
13:02.23Poul|Raiderk
13:03.17[Ammo]need 2.4 test version
13:03.28nevcairielme too
13:03.34nevcairielanyone know how to contact mikord ? :P
13:04.00[Ammo]you can email him via wowinterface :p
13:04.09Grumhow convenient!
13:04.41nevcairieli posted in his comment section, my nice goldish name will get his attention!
13:04.52Civrocklol
13:05.05SunTsuPoul|Raider: Just try them both and see what fits you best
13:05.09Poul|Raiderye
13:05.11Grumsurely he reads em grin
13:05.17Poul|Raidermsbt looks fine
13:06.15Poul|Raiderbtw, it would not be that hard to make something to manage debuff timers from people in the raid, when every mob get a guid would it?
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13:06.33Poul|Raiderto be able to see timers on debuffs from other players.
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13:06.53nevcairielyou still dont know if someone recasts a debuff before it expired
13:08.05Poul|Raideryou could track that aswell from the player casting it
13:08.32Poul|Raideror maybe not
13:08.33nevcairielyou need syncing then, since you wont know which mob he casts it on
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13:09.23Poul|RaiderCould make something simple to start with, syncing debuffs like poly/banish
13:09.56Poul|Raiderwould be a bit overkill to track debuffs with less then etc 5sec
13:09.59chexsumonly unique ids are added with 2.4 combatlog
13:10.04chexsumeverything else is the same
13:10.18Poul|Raideryes
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13:11.27chexsumif we figure out how to track other peoples buffs properly blizzard will add it :P
13:12.01chexsumthey dont seem to like how people without mods are disadvantaged
13:13.23CamciSeason 4 comes with 2.4 ?????????????
13:13.40Poul|Raiderwell i would be easy, just set up a list over buffs to share, and then each player with the addon sends out the information debuff/guid and then when you target a mob with the given guid you have a list over timers for the debuffs on it
13:13.41kenlyricseems unlikely
13:13.43Poul|Raiderit
13:13.47kenlyricmaybe the week after
13:14.00CamciSeason 4 is avilable in PTR tho
13:14.06kenlyricyeah
13:14.14nevcairielonly the items where datamined
13:14.20kenlyricI seem to remember another season, 2 or 3, was like that
13:14.20nevcairielnothing was ever said by anyone
13:14.24Camcii see
13:14.35Camcijust sounded abit too fast with Season 4 :p
13:14.52kenlyricI think they've said they don't want to do a new season and a major content patch in the same week.
13:14.54Poul|Raiderno the game need more welfare epics
13:15.07kenlyricCamci: well, you assume 2.4 is coming anytime soon
13:15.16CIA-1203nevcairiel 072.4 * r61899 10Omen/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Omen: fix references to SingleTarget module after Antiarc moved the files =P this should actually work again :)
13:15.32Kalrothnevcairiel: Be nice, he doesn't sleep much!
13:15.41nevcairiel6 hours is plenty
13:15.49KalrothThat's true
13:15.58GrumXinhuan > Antiarc in robotness!
13:16.12KalrothDamn kids don't need much sleep
13:16.32Grumhehe
13:16.42Grumi could get away with 3-5hrs a day 8 years ago ..
13:16.56Grumi'd prolly kill myself within 2 weeks if i'd do it now ;D
13:17.05kenlyricno
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13:17.14kenlyricyou'd kill those around you during the hallucinations
13:17.15chexsum6 hours is plenty
13:17.15KalrothThankfully I get weekends to make up for the 5 hour weekday sleeps
13:17.16Camciprimal nether not BoP?
13:17.23Grumin 2.4 yeah Camci
13:17.23KalrothCamci: they are
13:17.33Poul|Raider48hours up, 14hours sleep :D works like a charm
13:17.38Camciooh... how about vortex?
13:17.42chexsumi barely get 6 hours per night because of rotating shifts :(
13:17.43Grumalso
13:17.46Camcidoesnt say soulbound to me...
13:18.21nevcairielheh
13:18.22nevcairielfor i = 1, 80 do-- A raid of 40 hunters!
13:18.24KalrothCamci: They're BoP now. They're not BoP in 2.4.
13:18.39Camciah yea that what i ment :P
13:18.47Camciso vortex and nether is not BoP in 2.4 ?
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13:18.55Grumneither are BOP
13:18.55KalrothThey're BoE in 2.4.
13:19.05Camcinice :P
13:19.13Grumno they are not bound at all Kalroth :)
13:19.16Camcigot like 5 vortex and 10 nether i dont use :P
13:19.22ChompersCamci: http://www.mmo-champion.com/
13:19.35Bibilame site
13:19.37Camcimight sell for a good gold :p
13:19.43KalrothGrum: Well good luck equipping them to prove me wrong!
13:19.52Xinhuanso, you can use [The Skull of Gul'dan] followed by [Hex Shrunken Head] but not the other way around
13:19.54KalrothBibi: Yeah, it's some annoying frenchy that runs it
13:19.58KalrothGoddamn frog lovers
13:20.02Bibinot surprising then
13:20.05Xinhuanbecause the 2nd triggers cooldown on 1st, but the 1st doesn't trigger cd on 2nd
13:20.14Xinhuanwonder if that's a bug?
13:20.15nevcairielXinhuan: a bug probably
13:20.16GrumXinhuan: it is
13:20.40Camcionly shame is i cant raid since 3 months back :/
13:20.48Camcistupid RL and its work :p
13:20.58KalrothNo such thing as can't, there's only wont.
13:21.03Grumstop doing RL? you dont have to raid that
13:21.06Xinhuan++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
13:21.08Xinhuanoops
13:21.15Grumcat caught your +?
13:21.55Camcinice they have added the glowing shoulders back :)
13:21.58Camciin season 4
13:22.15Camcigood old times when i hitted high warlord and had glowing shoulders, good old times :P
13:22.40StanzillaXinhuan: your whisper key? :P
13:22.47Xinhuanmy vent key actually
13:22.50Stanzillahehe
13:22.58Xinhuannumpad+
13:23.10Xinhuanit used to be left-ctrl
13:23.15Xinhuanbut i type that so often
13:23.21Pkekyo|eduUR FAEC
13:23.21Pkekyo|eduK.
13:23.23[Ammo]middlemouse works best for me
13:23.30kenlyriccrystalforged trinket any use to a hunter? increases weapon damage by +7.
13:23.30nevcairielctrl all the way
13:23.33Xinhuanmy middle mouse is counterspell hehe
13:23.40Thuz[Ammo]: I agree fully with you there :)
13:23.49Xinhuanif i can set 2 vent keys i would
13:23.53Xinhuanbut i think i can't?
13:24.09Xinhuani still try to use left-ctrl and then i remember it isn't bound to that anymore
13:24.11nevcairieldunno about vent
13:24.20nevcairielin TS i can do that
13:24.28Pkekyo|eduXinhuanit used to be left-ctrl <--- l2use C-LOCK or teh weirdass button above tab/below f1 :>
13:24.31Xinhuanremember when i broke my left arm 2 months ago ? i rebinded everything to numpad and mouse
13:24.40nevcairielouch^
13:24.43Xinhuanpretty much clicked every spell for 2 months
13:24.56Xinhuan<3 Clique
13:25.36Xinhuanmy ~ button is bound to "tell target"
13:25.51Reclusespeaking of vent keys - is it possible to disable alt-tab behavior for the game?
13:25.59Xinhuanand ` to wowequip-inspect hehe
13:26.44Lukiankenlyric, hmm.. good question
13:26.45Pkekyo|edu<PROTECTED>
13:27.27Reclusei play windowed, so no reason for it. and my vent key is left alt - can't tell you how many times i've tabbed off the game accidently
13:27.39Grumkek
13:27.52Grumi use ` as vent-key :)
13:28.00Xinhuanthat's your mistake - using left alt !
13:28.02[Ammo]` for me is Seed of Corruption :)
13:28.02Recluse` is hard to reach if you're using movement/spell keys
13:28.16Pkekyo|eduRecluse: because you play windowed you never need access to anything but the game ever?
13:28.16[Ammo]movement = w a s d
13:28.19Reclusemy left thumb only jumps lol
13:28.23[Ammo]and ` is lefttop for that
13:28.32Grumi dont move nor use my keyboard for anything but movement/typing^^
13:28.35Grummouse ftw!
13:29.01ReclusePkekyo: well, because i'm in a window, i just move my mouse over and click another window, as opposed to alt-tabbing through them all
13:29.01[Ammo]and my paladin heals and stuff are all bound to mousebuttons :)
13:29.05[Ammo]so I can play onehanded on the pally
13:29.07Maldivia` is shift-[key to the left of backspace] on my keyboard layout... so not assigned to anything :)
13:29.25Xinhuan` is above the tab key
13:29.40Xinhuanon "standard" keyboards
13:29.41Grumwhere it should be :)
13:29.41Xinhuan:)
13:29.42kenlyricwhich are the best ogre's to grind for mag'har rep?
13:29.43Grumyeah
13:29.45Maldiviaabov tab I have ½ (§ with shift modifier)
13:29.56Grumkek, l2buynormalkb!
13:30.01sylvanaari ise one of my G15 keys for PTT, its presses some obnoxious combo like CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-{
13:30.21Xinhuanhah
13:30.25Recluselol
13:30.35Grumhehe
13:30.57Grumis the G15 really as good as people claim? :)
13:31.00sylvanaaryes
13:31.00TinhayDoes anyone else experience reproducible #132 crashes when trying to configure pitbull in the rock window? :/
13:31.04chexsumno
13:31.13Maldiviaand ½ for me is my all purpose shapeshift key
13:31.17Reclusei should probably make it a mouse key (vent) got plenty to spare lol
13:31.19chexsumget a real gaming pad if you need one :P
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13:32.03chexsumyou can remap keys in windows
13:32.03sylvanaarlike what
13:32.09chexsumi use apps key for vent
13:32.23Maldiviamiddle mousebutton for vent :)
13:32.29GrumTinhay: i know Ellipsis uncovered a 132 recently
13:32.42GrumMaldivia: you dont have a scrollwheel? ;D
13:32.48Reclusei think mouse 4 will work
13:32.56MaldiviaI do, and pressing it is my vent key
13:33.03Grumhehe
13:33.31sylvanaaratual vent? or bliz? did you bind within vent?
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13:33.36chexsum<-- g15+g5
13:33.44Grumg20?
13:33.50Maldiviavery unobstructive, and makes you able to function without it interfering with keybindings etc
13:34.01chexsumwith tai-chi mouse mat
13:34.08sylvanaarmouse 4 is my autorun
13:34.15chexsumits all for cs:s id use anything in wow
13:34.24Maldiviamouse 4 and 5 are autorun and jump for me :9
13:34.33[Ammo]mouse 4 autorun, xcept on unitframes, then it's flash of light ;)
13:34.40nevcairielheh
13:34.43Maldiviamouse 4 is dispel!
13:34.48Recluselol
13:34.55nevcairieli bet i would run into trouble double-binding my autorun key
13:34.55chexsummouse4=autorun/target for me
13:35.03nevcairieli miss click and move in a cruical moment
13:35.05Grummouse is for healing!
13:35.08Pkekyo|eduWTS SHOES
13:35.09Xinhuanhttp://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg - hehe, i like routes so much now
13:35.11sylvanaarg15 is great for  wow, i dont see how anyone can complain about it
13:35.12chexsum5 = prom
13:35.13Grum+alt/shift :P
13:35.25nevcairielalt is self cast
13:35.28chexsuma gaming pad is much bettter
13:35.29nevcairieland pressign shift is ftl
13:35.33sylvanaaryou know modifiers are bad for just that reason - clickcast
13:35.37Pkekyo|eduXinhuan: got taboo working now?
13:35.41Xinhuanyep
13:35.46Xinhuangot it working about 1-2 weeks ago
13:35.52Pkekyo|edusweet, I'm getting gatherhud :D
13:35.54sylvanaarchexsum like what?
13:36.14Xinhuani'm honestly surprised people use gatherhud
13:36.19chexsumi dont know but theres plenty to choose from
13:36.32sylvanaarchexsum so you dont use one?
13:36.42Pkekyo|eduWTS [Shoes] damnit :<
13:36.59chexsumi havent bought one yet but im tired of my keyboard being so huge
13:37.02GrumXinhuan: same here
13:37.07Grumgatherhud is just fun while on a mount ;D
13:37.27Gruma flightpoint one :P
13:37.36sylvanaarchexsum so, a gaming pad being better has nothing to do with the g15 irs about you
13:38.11chexsumg15 keys take a lot of pressure to push ;)
13:38.31chexsumive had better $10 keyboards
13:38.35Xinhuanhow many years does your keyboard last
13:38.41Poul|Raidercan i find a list of textures thats looks cool to use with eepanels? want to do a frame around my actionbars
13:38.46Xinhuanmine's really old, like 8 years old
13:38.48Xinhuanand it still works
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13:38.53GrumXinhuan: same
13:39.01Reclusehrm, from that screenshot... does that mean the taboo is 'impassable' now?
13:39.10SunTsuchexsum: I like keyboards I have to use pressuer on, because then I will be sure I pushed the button
13:39.11Grumgot a simple Dell keyboard here at work. works quite well :)
13:39.20Xinhuanyes
13:39.20sylvanaarI got a game pad - it sucked, used it for 10 minutes and unplugged it
13:39.33Xinhuanwe make routes nto pass thru the shaded regions
13:39.36Xinhuan*if possible*
13:39.46RecluseXinhuan: <3 thank you so much for that
13:39.50Xinhuanif you do something silly like make complete impassable regions, split the map into halves, etc
13:39.52Saroz_ffs Tinytip is fucked
13:39.56Recluselol
13:40.01Xinhuanmy algorithms will obviously ignore your taboos
13:40.15SunTsu.o0( WTB Cherry G80-3000 with more keys )
13:40.50chexsumive always wanted a happy hacker keyboard because i never use the numpad
13:41.06sylvanaarCherry makes cash register keyboards
13:41.53SunTsusylvanaar: I like the old ones from cherry. The ones who nearly sound and feel like a typewriter
13:42.04Saroz_Ok, how do you make TinyTip work as before?
13:42.06SunTsus/who/that/
13:42.22sylvanaarSunTsu I have one in my office - the cash register variety
13:42.56sylvanaarSunTsu im not sure of the model - it has a MSR in it though
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13:55.06sylvanaari didnt realize elkano was in channel
13:56.51Josh_Borkehe's not
13:57.32Chompers[01:46] * Quits: Elkano
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14:00.34CIA-1203ammo * r61902 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua Maiden.lua Moroes.lua): BigWigs: add 2.4 compatibility for Attumen, Moroes and Maiden. Needs checking.
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14:05.20Stanzillalfg BWL :(
14:06.18CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61903 10Bartender3/Bar.lua: Bartender3: ensure the frame is movable
14:07.13nevcairielwtf do you want in BWL?
14:07.18CIA-1203ascalia * r61904 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
14:07.18CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
14:07.18CIA-12-small loot update
14:07.25StanzillaLashslayer's Head :P
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14:10.44CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61905 10Bartender3/Bar.lua: Bartender3: fix parent of the fontstring
14:12.06CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61906 10Bartender3/Bar.lua: Bartender3: really fix anchoring and parenting this time, doh!
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14:15.03CIA-1203nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r61907 10Bartender4/Bartender4/Bar.lua: Bartender4: add new bar overlays
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14:15.50hakerxhttp://wow-dev.zapto.org/
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14:16.47hastehay guys, it looks legit!
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14:18.38Lukianwow that website is full of spelling errors
14:20.10RecluseXD
14:21.06Lukian[Ammo], ckknight, Funkeh`, Kalroth, MoonWolf, vharr, perm ban ^
14:21.18Funkeh`?
14:21.28KalrothOh
14:21.31Kirkburnhakerx
14:21.31dodgaYah, that is the proper way to ask for a perm ban - highlight all ops :D
14:21.32Kalroththe spammer
14:21.45Kirkburndodga, sure :P They love it :)
14:21.55KalrothAnd I'm not an op here, Ammo hates me and wont give me ops!
14:22.01Kalroth[15:13] --> hakerx (i=root@84.237.170.219) has joined #wowace
14:22.05Kalrothwas the sinner btw
14:22.08LukianKaelten, mistab.
14:22.15LukianLOL root
14:22.25KirkburnOh, nice :)
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14:22.42KirkburnSomeone should "hak" him back :P
14:23.11LukianYeah, hack his website and fix the grammar please
14:23.37KirkburnOr add ponies.
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14:23.53Lukianponies are good ^_^
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14:26.33CIA-1203wang * r61908 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhCN.lua: RatingBuster: zhCN update
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14:30.12Poul|RaiderIs there a place where you can get a list over textures that can be used with eepanel, or some place where some of the most used textures are listed
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14:32.35dodgaPoul|Raider: Install SharedMedia (or SharedMediaLib, I don't know) and look at some addon that uses SharedMedia and RockConfig? :D
14:32.54Poul|Raiderk
14:32.54CIA-1203wang * r61909 10PitBull_Prat/Prat.lua: PitBull_Prat: add zhCN local
14:33.02Poul|Raiderthink i got shared media alread
14:33.03Poul|Raidery
14:35.31Xinhuanblackrock down ~_~
14:35.34Xinhuanhonor update
14:35.41CIA-1203kunda * r61910 10GridStatusLifebloom/ (GridStatusLifebloom.lua GridStatusLifebloom.toc):
14:35.41CIA-12GridStatusLifebloom:
14:35.41CIA-12- use LibBabble-Spell-3.0 because Grid uses it
14:35.41CIA-12- cleanup
14:35.42CIA-12- toc update
14:35.42CIA-12- added deDE
14:35.42Xinhuantotally random
14:35.57Xinhuanits like 1.5 hours past yesterday's one
14:37.16CIA-1203wang * r61911 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/zhCN.lua:
14:37.16CIA-12LibBabble-Spell-3.0
14:37.16CIA-12- update zhCN , add "Doomfire".
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14:40.32sylvanaarWhat do you guys think - creating a "Theme" library? So you can theme things like fonts and sounds as a group?
14:42.29sylvanaarand they would be applied to all you addons, i guess you can expand the concept even further by supporting default color selections etc.
14:42.35Industrialwell you know what I think
14:42.41Industrial:p
14:42.58Industrialthough its not personal in any way
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14:43.22IndustrialI dont think people will adopt this just so some user can happily throw a hello kitty theme on it
14:43.38sylvanaarwhy not - there isnt anything to adopt
14:43.43IndustrialIt works in e.g. conspiracy because thats a closed environment
14:43.58kagaro_hello kitty themes ...
14:43.59Industrialbut not it the universe of all addons
14:44.00sylvanaaryou just remap the sounds/fonts in SML
14:44.13sylvanaarif they dont use SML too bad
14:44.43kagaro_sylvanaar: sounds more like a skinner kinda setup
14:45.43sylvanaaryeah - except a theme is just  a table with string -> string entries to map one SML name to another
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14:47.17sylvanaarits not very grandiose - for instance - the "quiet" theme would turn all your sounds off
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14:49.27Wobin_Xinhuan: I've moved off AD
14:49.34sylvanaaror maybe "raiding" theme would turn off non-essential sounds, and change to a special font, and use different statusbar textures which are easier to see
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14:51.54Elzarathwhats the best way 2 c rested xp? Ive got fubar/pitbull/cowtip/bartender3 as some of my addons
14:52.26FinalXdisable them all and you'll see it on the blizzard ui ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist)
14:52.42Wobin_Elzarath: Xparky!
14:53.08Elzarathha Final.... thnx Wobin
14:53.17Lukiansylvanaar, isn't that kinda what SharedMedia is?
14:53.21sylvanaaryeah
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14:53.47sylvanaari am asking elkano if he will add it there - but the "bloat" police will be watchin
14:53.57XinhuanWobin_: really? lol
14:54.04LukianI don't use SharedMedia, it's already bloat :p
14:54.05Xinhuanor you just fooling with me
14:54.14Wobin_yeah, we were sick of trying to find raids in oceanic timezones
14:54.26Xinhuanwhere did you move
14:54.31Wobin_To Cael
14:54.31Xinhuanand "we" is ..?
14:54.35Wobin_My guild
14:54.41Xinhuanentire guild agree to move?
14:54.44Xinhuanthat's pretty rare
14:54.45Wobin_fairly much
14:54.49sylvanaarthey dont like it when you add more than one usefule feature to an addon
14:54.49Lukianyou guys are on cael? My housemate wants me to roll there :o
14:54.50Wobin_we're all RL friends
14:55.37Wobin_I mean the guild, at it's core has about, oh... 10 or so people with hundreds of alts =P
14:55.54Wobin_we were too small to raid on our own, and we ran a raiding conglomerate sort of thing
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14:56.07Chomperssounds fun, how far did you get?
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14:56.13Wobin_but drumming up 25mans was painful
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14:56.17Wobin_oh lurker
14:56.22Chompersdamn :<
14:56.27Wobin_before interest petered out =(
14:56.37Wobin_We burn through Gruul
14:56.45Wobin_and Kara with our eyes closed on all alts
14:56.49sag_ich_nichtheh
14:56.59Wobin_I know I'm running my third alt through kara =P
14:57.07Wobin_(oh god so much Kara)
14:57.11sag_ich_nichtin europe most raids are nowadays raiding conglomerates
14:57.33Wobin_our slogan was "Oceanic Raiders: We do it with latency!"
14:57.45sag_ich_nichtforcing all raiders into the same guild causes unneccesairy social drama
14:58.00Wobin_or "Oceanic Raiders: One second behind everyone else"
14:58.00sag_ich_nichtWobin_ might i suggest you tweak your registry to improve your ping? :P
14:58.14Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: We're in Oz =P It doesn't help =)
14:58.21sag_ich_nichtWobin_ of course it helps you fool
14:58.24sag_ich_nichthave you even tried it?
14:58.30Chompersor move your house closer to where you want it, god its so easy
14:58.33Wobin_Well yes, since 2.4 it's been better
14:58.42Wobin_Chompers: inorite?
14:58.50Wobin_It's just a damn piece of water
14:59.03Chompershouseboat
14:59.06sag_ich_nichtWobin_: you mean 2.3.2, and 2.3.2 didn't properly implement all changes, the ACK queue is still too long on win xp
14:59.08Wobin_I just wish the Oceanic servers were... you know... in Oceania =P
14:59.16Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: yeah
14:59.26Wobin_we have the same latency
14:59.30Wobin_it's just so does everyone else
14:59.32sag_ich_nichtso change the ack queue length to 1 and oh god no, ping goes down :P
14:59.48Wobin_oh I've been getting latency of about 300 recently
14:59.53sag_ich_nichtWobin_: well, have you, or have you not, changed the setting? :P
14:59.54Xinhuanhm
14:59.56Wobin_that makes me happy =P
15:00.08Wobin_Sometimes the meter goes -green-
15:00.14sag_ich_nichtWobin_ answer my question
15:00.16sag_ich_nicht!
15:00.27sag_ich_nichtalso hello hm'ing Xinhuan
15:00.29Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: I'm on linux
15:00.36Wobin_teach me
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15:01.10sag_ich_nichtWobin_: *headsigh* nevermind :P but you could do your guildies a favor
15:01.43Wobin_so what latency should I be expecting?
15:01.52Wobin_since it takes about 200ms to -get- to the US
15:02.50sag_ich_nichtlook, i don't know how much of an improvement it is, and since linux already HAS that implemented differently, it doesn't matter since 2.3.2, for people like YOU who play on linuxor a mac
15:03.21Wobin_I suspect that my winxp associates have applied the changes
15:03.43sag_ich_nichtbut WINDOWS users still suffer from the SHITTY TCP/IP stack, and you can improve that :P
15:03.51Wobin_and that any latency issues are derived purely from distance
15:03.52sag_ich_nichthttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10599/ or change the registry setting from hand :P
15:04.16sag_ich_nichtWobin_: it's not just distance, i'm in europe and that lowered my ping from ~160 to 34 ms.
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15:04.29ElzarathAnyone know why Omen doesnt seem 2 work for my warlock but works fine for my shammy and priest?
15:04.34Wobin_You're connecting to a server halfway across the world?
15:04.53LukianElzarath, I noticed omen wasn't working for me today either
15:05.02Wobin_Australia is halfway across the world from everywhere =(
15:05.11ElzarathI read somewhere else that warlocks having trouble with Omen
15:05.12Wobin_(except New Zealand, but we don't count them)
15:05.41sag_ich_nichtWobin_: no, i'm not. i'm connecting to the servers in paris, but the fact that it lowered my ping still by over 100 ms and that this problem gets WORSE with distance
15:05.54sag_ich_nichttells me that there is room for improvements :P
15:05.55Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: yes
15:06.31Wobin_but the fact it still takes over 8 hours to -fly- anywhere decent from Sydney sort of indicates that distance may be more of a deciding factor in a two digit ping =P
15:06.45Wobin_we're -never- phyiscally going to get below 100ms
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15:07.05sag_ich_nichtWobin_: i'm not saying that, but i'm saying you don't need to suffer from 300 ms ping :P
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15:07.14Wobin_And I've said that I believe that my xp compatriots have applied said changes
15:07.18Lukianlol.. 200 is the best I see, if that.
15:07.21Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: I'm saying we do =P
15:07.37Wobin_Come to Australia, connect to the US and -then- prove your point
15:07.53Wobin_We save -maybe- 100ms by that change
15:07.59Wobin_200 even
15:08.02Lukianplease so :)
15:08.09Wobin_but 200 is possibly the best we can do
15:08.13Lukianyeah, we dropped from 400ish to 200 :p
15:08.14sag_ich_nichtprobably.
15:08.30Lukianthanks to 2.3.2
15:08.34sag_ich_nichtWobin_: but it sounds like you're even unwilling to try doing something about it
15:08.34Wobin_aye
15:08.39Wobin_Where? =P
15:08.51sag_ich_nichtactually ait
15:08.53sag_ich_nicht*wait
15:08.55sag_ich_nichtLukian what OS
15:08.57Wobin_I've said twice that "I believe my xp compatriots have applied said changes"
15:09.00LukianI use linux
15:09.07sag_ich_nicht*sigh* :P
15:09.09FinalXhm, which addons show the % for ratings on item tooltips?
15:09.17Wobin_Ratingsbuster?
15:09.21Lukianmy housemates use xp and vista
15:09.30FinalXhm, will have a look at that later Wobin_ ^^
15:09.40sag_ich_nichtWobin_: i 'm reading into the Linux TCP/IP stack documentation and there are a few changes possible there it seems :P
15:09.52sag_ich_nichtLukian: they play WoW?
15:09.56Lukianyup
15:10.09Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: My point is, that -yes- we've applied the changes. No, we will never get <100ms pingtime. Yes we will suffer from 300ms lag because we're used to 500ms lag =P
15:10.44sag_ich_nichthave they tried the registry changes to reduce the ACK queue length Lukian?
15:10.48Wobin_Also, Australia has some of the worst broadband in the first world countries
15:10.58Lukianyes
15:11.00Wobin_So that doesn't help either
15:11.07Pkekyo|WHY WON'T ANYONE BUY MY FUCKING SHOES, DAMNIT?!
15:11.19Wobin_Pkekyo|: You're wearing them?
15:13.18Pkekyo|Wobin_: nah, never wore them
15:14.12Xinhuani just use SSH tunneling
15:14.17Xinhuanand achieve 200 ms on it
15:15.24Wobin_You need someone on the other end for that
15:15.28Wobin_I did that in China
15:15.34Wobin_except I tunneled to Oz =P
15:15.52OzguliWtf is it?
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15:20.45sag_ich_nichtWobin_: seems there is TCP_QUICKACK on linux :P
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15:22.30sag_ich_nichtonly reference i can find atm is directly codewise, not how to enforce it, might have to loop it thru a proxy again like before 2.3.2 :P
15:24.09Wobin_hm, painful
15:24.44Lukiandon't suppose you can easily do it with socat and iptables, like the original guide?
15:24.50Lukianhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271071466&sid=1
15:25.14sag_ich_nichtprobably, lemme check
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15:27.10Wobin_I'm going to have to go to bed
15:27.20Wobin_sag_ich_nicht: can you let me know what you find out?
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15:27.56LukianWobin_, what's your guild on cael btw?
15:28.04Wobin_"Free Goo"
15:28.07Lukianhaha
15:28.08Lukiank
15:28.10Wobin_name subject to change =)
15:28.23sag_ich_nichtWobin_: i will, but i just checked the socat manpage
15:28.45sag_ich_nichtdoesn't look like there is a way to do TCP_QUICKACK on each socket opened
15:29.23sag_ich_nichtthe problem is that the linux kernel is always reseting TCP_QUICKACK to 0 because it's _supposed_ to be used only temporary because it's outside the recommendations
15:29.47Wobin_well, that makes sense
15:30.07Maldiviathen patch the kernel
15:30.37sag_ich_nichtMaldivia: durrr, but i'm neither a coder nor a kernel hacker :P
15:31.02Wobin_Maldivia: and it's not something I particularly want to do -just- for a single game =)
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15:31.51Ozguli... where's the lore here? http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teethnr0.jpg
15:31.56sag_ich_nichtno but it might a good idea to implement a toggle for this bahviour in the kernel
15:32.09sag_ich_nichtbehaviour
15:32.18Wobin_Ozguli: Nelfs are descended from snakes
15:32.20Wobin_duh =P
15:34.05MaldiviaOzguli: it's the missing link between night elf and blood elf
15:34.23sag_ich_nichtserver -m irc.OFTC.net
15:34.26sag_ich_nichtargh
15:34.26sag_ich_nichttypo
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15:35.06CIA-1203endeavour * r61913 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: New options added, see "Options", "Output Options"
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15:40.04sag_ich_nichtwhat.
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15:42.44CIA-1203alar * r61914 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc):
15:42.44CIA-12AlarLib
15:42.44CIA-12Unexistent keys in locale now returns a capitalized version of the key instead of the key as is
15:42.59Xinhuano_O
15:43.02Wobin_unexistant?
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15:43.27Wobin_that's unpossible!
15:45.42Pkekyo|how's that impossible?
15:45.51[SW]Dodgeuhm... why the hell a frame removes his relativeTo after draging?
15:45.55sag_ich_nichtWobin_ Lukian i was wrong about the default behaviour of the kernel because the documentation is a POS, it's already doing it that way by default, i just re-read it :P
15:45.56Pkekyo|oh, you meant it was supposed to be inexistant? :/
15:46.03sag_ich_nichtno luck for you :P
15:46.14Wobin_bah =\
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15:46.51kneeki'ello
15:46.55sag_ich_nichtand now i have to go, bye :P
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15:48.20[SW]Dodgehi kneeki
15:49.20Saroz_Anyone tried TipTac instead of TinyTip?
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15:54.35Chompersdoes cowtip not work Saroz?
15:54.52Saroz_cowtip sucks
15:54.58[SW]Dodgei have a mavoable frame(main) with another movable frame(child) that is positioned relativ it, but if i move the child it is not anymore relativeTo the main frame but to nil. is there a way to avoid this behaviour?
15:55.24dylanmRead TipTac's source it's fun.
15:55.36Chompersdefault cowtip does, needs a bit of work to get it looking nice
15:55.37Reclusere-set the points to the parent when moving it?
15:55.38kneeki[SW]Dodge, I don't think so.
15:55.44Saroz_dylanm?
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15:56.29[SW]Dodgedamn... then i'll have to improvise :x
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16:00.31xlviii'm taking a wild stab in the dark here, but would anyone happen to have twitter?
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16:04.12Pkekyo|twi...what did you call me?!
16:04.52xlviipkekyo|, twitter.. do you have it, you twit? :D
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16:51.39CIA-1203cgaddy * r61917 10aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua aX_RaidStatus.toc): (log message trimmed)
16:51.39CIA-12aX_RaidStatus:
16:51.39CIA-12- Removed the call/loop for GetRaidRosterInfo, we are now assuming that every player is added to a proper list.
16:51.39CIA-12- Added in ability to change the max group that is watched.
16:51.39CIA-12- Removed the ability to remove default classes from stored lists.
16:51.41CIA-12- Default classes will no longer show up on the FuBar Menu
16:51.45CIA-12- Removed the OnUpdate script. Checking for raid now in RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
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17:02.31[SW]Dodgewhat does SetAttribute("useparent*",true) do?
17:02.49[SW]Dodgeor.. what is the "useparent*" attribute?
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17:03.31cncfanaticswill match useparent-whuieghfbj and useparent-skodfbj sufbh uysxghvibusjkg and useparent-ojiàhdhghu
17:03.35Xinhuanif an attribute isn't found, check the parent for the same attribute
17:04.03cncfanaticsXinhuan: wouldn't just "useparent" do that ?
17:04.16cncfanaticsuseparent* would be for all states also
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17:05.03Xinhuandunno, i'm not very good at state headers ;p
17:05.10Xinhuango ask cogwheel or alestane heh
17:05.31cncfanaticsIm pretty sure I'm right :p
17:05.36nevcairieluseparent wont work
17:05.41nevcairielonly useparent-stuff
17:05.43nevcairielor useparent*
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17:06.27cncfanaticsI was refering to the asterisk :), useparent alone would work if there is no suffix active
17:06.50nevcairielno it wont
17:06.55nevcairieluseparent alone doesnt work
17:06.58cncfanaticsit won't ? why is that ?
17:07.10nevcairielbecause its coded like that
17:07.15nevcairielcheck SecureTemplates.lua
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17:07.51[SW]Dodgehm
17:08.09cncfanaticssounds weird
17:08.11[SW]Dodgei dont really understand lol :D
17:08.22cncfanaticsit would make sense if "useparent" worked for a button without states, but oh well
17:08.35nevcairieluseparent doesnt depend on states
17:08.58nevcairieloh well i dont feel like explaining the whole useparent funtionality now
17:09.22cncfanaticsif(attributeNotFound(Attribute)) then this:GetParent():GetAttribute(Attribute); end
17:09.26cncfanaticssomething like that ^^
17:10.25cncfanaticsgonna go read that code sooner or later probably
17:10.46[SW]Dodgeah.. is it like if i have set SetAttr("unit",unit) to the parented objekt the child with "useparent*",true will also have "unit",unit?
17:11.04cncfanaticsexactly
17:11.24cncfanaticsexcept if I'm horibly mistaking
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17:11.45[SW]Dodgethanks a lot =)
17:11.57Xinhuanthat's like what i said 10 minutes ago
17:12.20NivFreakgdi
17:12.26NivFreakI let a newbie tank run ZA in my place
17:12.28[SW]DodgeXinhuan: :D
17:12.35NivFreakand he got 4 drops I've been waiting for
17:12.36NivFreakhah
17:12.52Xinhuannever let someone sub for you ;d
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17:13.05NivFreakeh, it's for the greater good
17:13.06Xinhuanthen once you get all your loot, never go back, on the pretext the new guy needs loot
17:13.48CIA-1203brimm * r61918 10MyThreat/ (. MyThreat.toc embeds.xml):
17:13.48CIA-12MyThreat:
17:13.48CIA-12-Updated externals to new Threat-1.0 externals.
17:13.56cncfanatics~lash Xinhuan
17:14.05Xinhuan~fail cncfanatics
17:14.06purlcncfanatics: Fail.
17:14.25cncfanatics~ban Xinhuan
17:14.51cncfanaticspurl shld do a fakeban imo :(
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17:15.27cncfanaticsEllipsis is here !
17:15.44ckknightcncfanatics: I accidentally disconnected her
17:15.52ckknightfor all of 2 seconds
17:16.03cncfanaticsckknight: ah lol; poor Ellipsis, without irc for 2 sec
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17:17.18ckknightshe's asleep
17:18.36cncfanaticshmmm, how late is it in san francisco anyway ?
17:18.50nevcairiel9 am or sth, i guess
17:19.00nevcairielor 10?
17:19.11ulicno, 9:20ish
17:19.14CIA-1203usz * r61919 10MD5Lib/lib.xml:
17:19.14CIA-12MD5Lib:
17:19.14CIA-12- Fixed path separator character in script file location
17:19.16cncfanaticsheh, its 9 hours later here :p
17:20.33Fisker-damnit
17:20.36Fisker-my brain is leaving me
17:20.46Fisker-fucking knight rider remake
17:21.01Fisker-"Noes don't kill the bad guy" *Grabs a gun from the bad guy*
17:21.04Fisker-FUCKING HYPOCRIT
17:21.15EvilJohn-I didn't see it
17:21.17EvilJohn-I taped it
17:21.21EvilJohn-I'm going to watch it
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17:21.43EvilJohn-while nude and running Matchbox cards of 1983 transams up and down my body
17:22.21ggilbertI think I logged on at the wrong time.
17:22.55cncfanaticsEvilJohn: we didn't want to know
17:23.07EvilJohn-noted.
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17:25.02Daemonaif anyone wants to look over some threat-2.0 errors from the ptr -> http://ace.pastey.net/82565
17:25.23Fisker-hmm
17:25.24nevcairielfix quick, i'm preparing the .zip for my guildys Now =P
17:25.32ulicckknight: doh, sorry, I always forget those darn wau filelists.
17:25.37Fisker-filled with so many errors just to have a somewhat coherent story
17:25.50ckknightulic: Ellipsis was the one who begged me to fix em
17:25.53ckknight:-P
17:26.32Kulaarnevcairiel
17:26.38nevcairiel?
17:26.41Kulaarcan you send me the zip too?
17:26.45Kulaarim too stupic
17:26.56Kulaarcant geht omen running
17:27.01Kulaar-h
17:30.18Daemonanevcairiel its wokring ok, just make sure they remove any existing threat-1.0 and disable the threat modules in prat and aloft
17:30.30nevcairielprat has a threat module? o.O
17:30.43nevcairieli mean, wtf
17:30.46cncfanaticseverything must have a threat module !
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17:30.50Elsiaheya
17:30.52Daemonaerrrh pitbull ;)
17:30.54Megalonnevcairiel: prat has modules for just anything ;)
17:30.55DaemonaPTR OMEN -> http://www.savefile.com/files/1387951
17:30.59cncfanaticsI should add a threat module to flexbar btw
17:31.01Daemonais what i deployed on my ptr raid
17:31.08Daemonais ~3 hours old
17:31.10kebinusanwth does a prat module for threatlib do
17:31.23Daemonakebinusan nothing, was a freudian slip
17:31.24Elsiado I need to update recount's dependencies to Babble-Spell-3.0 and Babble-Boss-3.0 due to the threat-1.0 dependency changes?
17:31.33cncfanaticskebinusan: take memory & cpu ?
17:31.45XinhuanElsia: yes
17:31.47Elsiak
17:32.01kebinusanI laugh when people answer 'what can I use to copy urls from chat?' with prat
17:32.10kebinusanthats about overkill extreme
17:32.24[Ammo]it's a valid answer
17:32.27kebinusanI guess you could use a tank to get to the mall
17:32.28[Ammo]not the best answer
17:32.30[Ammo]but a valid one
17:32.31kebinusanbut yeah
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17:32.50Lukianwhen's arena honour tickover? same time as normal honour or?
17:32.54Lukianpoints*
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17:33.18kebinusanI dont htink I use half the features of prat just too lazy to find another chatmod
17:33.42RecluseLukian: same time, but only on monday night/tuesday morn
17:33.49[Ammo]I use my own modified simplechatmods
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17:35.24Xinhuanindeed, i use my own chat time stamps
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17:39.53cncfanaticsprat is modular anyway isn't it ?
17:39.56cncfanaticsjust disable all you don't need -.-
17:40.01cncfanatics(aka, the most of it)
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17:41.03nevcairielsomething very simple like SCM works good enough
17:42.46[Ammo]yeah I have a 11kib chatmod
17:42.50[Ammo]or something
17:44.41LukianRecluse, I'm unsure when that is, as I play on oceanic
17:44.55Lukianour honour tickover is usually 9pm (tuesday night)
17:45.28RecluseLukian: well, honor rolls over in about... 15-16 hours from now (for the week)
17:45.38Lukiankk cool
17:45.48nevcairielmy SCM seems to collect some garbage sometimes
17:45.50nevcairieldont know why :D
17:46.11[Ammo]I know why
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17:46.19CIA-1203elsia * r61920 10Recount/ (. embeds.xml):
17:46.19CIA-12Recount:
17:46.19CIA-12- Updated Threat-1.0's dependencies to LibBabble-Spell-3.0 and LibBabble-Boss-3.0.
17:46.24[Ammo]it creates strings due to it's replacement
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17:47.14CIA-1203chexsum * r61921 10/trunk/ (KillingSpree_UT2k4/ KillingSpree_UT2k4Male/): Renamed remotely
17:48.13sag_ich_nichtwhat.
17:48.47Elsiagief KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/ :D
17:48.55chexsum:\
17:49.08kebinusanpft just make killingspree and have options
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17:50.37sag_ich_nicht/agree
17:50.44sag_ich_nichtactually no.
17:50.45sag_ich_nichtyou know what
17:51.04sag_ich_nichtjust use a MKombat soundset instead of replicating the same damn addon 200000nd times
17:51.28chexsumpft
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17:52.23chexsumthisll work with 2.4 lol
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17:56.46CIA-1203chexsum * r61922 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Male/ (15 files in 2 dirs):
17:56.46CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Male:
17:56.46CIA-12- Updated layout and added some sounds for future use
17:57.42Shiriksag_ich_nicht: It's modular!
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17:58.23chexsumlol
17:58.33CIA-1203ammo * r61923 10Necronomicon2/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Necronomicon2: use babblespell-3.0
17:58.55chexsumi just split sounds up since itd be 15M each curse update
17:59.28Elsiawas there a need to update babble-spell btw?
17:59.37sag_ich_nicht[18:57] <+Shirik> sag_ich_nicht: It's modular! <--so is MKombat!
17:59.43Elsiai.e. given that it'll be obsolete come 2.4?
17:59.51ShirikDoes it have LibModular?
17:59.55sag_ich_nicht[18:52] <chexsum> thisll work with 2.4 lol <--oh noes my precious MKombat will break in 2.3
17:59.55sag_ich_nichtD:
17:59.57Shirikif not, it's not modular enough
17:59.58sag_ich_nicht*2.4
18:00.00sag_ich_nichtD:
18:00.04sag_ich_nichtShirik
18:00.11sag_ich_nichtyour sarcasm subsystem is broken
18:00.17sag_ich_nichtit's working at 120% force
18:00.27sag_ich_nichtyou will burn Shirik
18:00.27ShirikI invented energy
18:00.30CIA-1203chexsum * r61924 10KillingSpree/ (13 files in 2 dirs):
18:00.30CIA-12KillingSpree:
18:00.30CIA-12- Updated to support 2.4
18:00.31Shirikgief nobel prize plox
18:00.40CIA-1203chexsum * r61925 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/ (KillingSpree_UT2k4Female.toc UT2k4Female.lua):
18:00.40CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Female:
18:00.40CIA-12- Updated layout and added some sounds for future use
18:00.41CIA-1203ammo * r61926 10LockSmith/ (LockSmith.lua LockSmith.toc embeds.xml libs/): LockSmith: use babblespell-3.0
18:01.01[Ammo]guess at 2.4 it's nolonger needed but shrug
18:01.13Elsiayay Female
18:01.29sag_ich_nichtFunkeh` NECB bettr work in 2.4
18:01.40Funkeh`no it won't
18:02.18sag_ich_nichtwhat wil work then :(
18:02.21sag_ich_nicht*will
18:02.34aestilwhat do you need necb for?
18:02.34Funkeh`we might have a new version by release
18:02.36Funkeh`might
18:02.54sag_ich_nichtFunkeh` you bettr :>
18:03.02Daemonacould anyone add pure death and blinding light flasks to BigBrother? (and the shattrath verison
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18:03.12Funkeh`sag_ich_nicht, or? :)
18:03.18sag_ich_nichtor we will all die
18:03.42sag_ich_nichtaestil: fucking people over in PvP, annoying people in my raid with music and getting killing blow sounds of course! :O
18:04.12sag_ich_nicht...and that obnoxious trash mob respawn timer that is still missing in bigwigs
18:04.15sag_ich_nicht>.>
18:05.10Grumuse incubator?
18:05.18sag_ich_nichtno because i already use NECB? :P
18:05.52sag_ich_nicht(now try to beat me with logic, go ahead and TRY)
18:06.27CIA-1203chexsum * r61927 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Female/snds/ (10 files):
18:06.28CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Female:
18:06.28CIA-12- Actually added the sounds :x
18:06.59CIA-1203chexsum * r61928 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Male/snds/ (11 files):
18:06.59CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Male:
18:06.59CIA-12- Actually added the sounds :x
18:07.00sag_ich_nichthaha Elsia :P
18:08.19CIA-1203kurax * r61929 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
18:08.19CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
18:08.19CIA-12- Typo fix
18:08.21Recluseoh man, whoever made that BAM! mod should be shot lol
18:08.27Snagodo you have to target something to put a mark on it?
18:08.39Snagoor can you put a mark on your focus?
18:08.52Elsiafocus is a type of target
18:09.00sag_ich_nichtoooooooooooooooooh, drugs
18:09.02Elsiayou can put it on anything that has a unitid I think
18:09.07sag_ich_nichtpretty colors \o/
18:10.56Elsiahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTargetIcon, SetRaidTargetIcon("focus",1)
18:11.04CIA-1203kurax * r61930 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
18:11.04CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
18:11.04CIA-12- Typo fix
18:11.37sag_ich_nicht(did i mention i'm naturally resistant to sedatives and analgesics? my dentist had to give me 3 shots every time he actually did something to the roots of my teeth, and i take normal drilling without the use of any pain killer, so it's not a matter of pain tolerance :P)
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18:11.49sag_ich_nichtElsia have some more? 8D
18:11.56LunosHello There ^^
18:12.01sag_ich_nichtlook no.
18:12.07sag_ich_nichtgo away. we will eat you.
18:12.16sag_ich_nicht:(
18:12.23LunosIs there someone from the Checklist2 Crew online?
18:12.54sag_ich_nichtI'm a paladin, so as a matter of fact, I am.
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18:13.42Elsiabah who cares, you are out the window :D
18:13.50sag_ich_nichtyeah but you know
18:14.01sag_ich_nichtI'M BACK
18:14.26Elsiaalright, I'll chain silence you next time... now back to something useful ;)
18:14.56sag_ich_nichtbut your silence, it does nothing! I can still use crusader strike and the seal will still stay active for 30 seconds! I'll stil lcrit you to your doom!
18:15.16sag_ich_nichts/stil l/still/
18:16.01sag_ich_nichtgaaah
18:16.01sag_ich_nichtdiaf purl :(
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18:16.23sag_ich_nichtpurl i said diaf, not kill everyone with fire.
18:16.28purlYou said diaf, not kill everyone with fire.?
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18:16.34sag_ich_nichtpurl yes i did
18:16.35purlYou did?
18:16.40Recluselol
18:16.41sag_ich_nichtpurl yes
18:16.42purlYou don't say!
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18:16.48sag_ich_nicht8D
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18:19.15frophello
18:19.28fropgot a problem with WaU...
18:19.40fropit doesn't show up my addon list anymore
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18:19.53dafireevening..
18:20.23fropError loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
18:20.41sag_ich_nichtthe best solution for that would be suicide.
18:20.49sag_ich_nichtor deleting WAU and reinstalling it.
18:20.57fropzomg
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18:21.12fropby deleting, you mean "uninstall"?
18:21.26sag_ich_nichtyou can uninstall
18:21.40fropkk will do
18:22.00sag_ich_nichti will continue to delete everything i remove from my computer manually, since most uninstallers are incompetent pieces of shit
18:22.17frop...got another question btw...why does WAU connect to so many "commercial" sites?
18:22.34Saisfor its ads?
18:22.35fropsag_ich_nicht: you're right, but...unistaller "should" remove reg key too
18:22.50dafirehmm.. threat-1.0.toc is empty ? :9
18:23.00fropSais yep, WAU does something like 20connection around
18:23.17fropand i think that's not nice...
18:23.32frop...i tryed to "block" them...and what? WaU just close itself
18:23.33sag_ich_nichtexcept WAU uses no reg keys oh shi- bet you didn't expect that from a fucking .NET application who's whole purpose is to go away from storing shit in the registry where it doesn't belong
18:23.47SaisHaven't had a sniffer running while using it. I've switched to jWU, although there are features of each that I like.
18:24.10sag_ich_nichtfrop: stop using zonealarm if you don'
18:24.12fropsag_ich_nicht nice to hear that  .)
18:24.13sag_ich_nichtt understand what it does
18:24.14sag_ich_nichtactually
18:24.19fropi use jetico tbh
18:24.31sag_ich_nichtstop using any kind of outbound personal firewall if you don't know what it does
18:24.40froplol
18:25.16sag_ich_nichtinbound FINE, but 9/10 users that use an outbound firewall don't understand what they block or not block and just fuck up their PC with that, _including_ you.
18:25.24fropwell, so try to explain me...WaU should updata all of my addons...ergo it should connect to www.wowace.com and svn.wowace.com...
18:25.30frop....not to so MANY ads site
18:25.38sag_ich_nichtno, it should connect to fucking files.wowace.com
18:25.49fropwell, that aswell...
18:25.52sag_ich_nichtand frop if you don't LIKE the ads, don't USE WAU, don't try to be a dick and block them
18:25.57sag_ich_nichtif you want to continue to do this
18:26.06sag_ich_nichtgtfo of #wowace and don't expect any kind of support
18:26.14fropehy...take it easy...just asking...
18:26.23estalawhat's with the elipses
18:27.03sag_ich_nichthe tries to calm me down by trying to invoke a "long drawn soothing voice" in my head, which doesn't work. at all.
18:27.09Recluse"Error loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
18:27.14Recluseeh?
18:27.20Kivinsag_ich_nicht is an asshole to everyone.  he gets a kick out of it.  just let him be.
18:27.37fropeheh
18:27.40aestilEllipsis: whats with you?
18:27.54sag_ich_nichtalso estala it's not an ellipsis, [19:25] <frop> ....not to so MANY ads site <--see? he used a period too much.
18:28.09fropdamn right...
18:28.18frop...wasted bandwidth
18:28.22estalaGood point Sag
18:28.23estalamy bad
18:28.47estalaHe should use his firewall to block one of the periods.
18:28.55DashkalSeems this build of WAU is broken
18:29.15DashkalWho maintains it, anyway?
18:29.27sag_ich_nicht[19:27] * dafire wonders which kind sag_ich_nicht 's problem is <--i have many problems, one is that frop tried to block the ads in WAU and now expects any kind of support, which is exactly what he denied the coders of WAU by trying to block the ads :P
18:29.28sag_ich_nichtalso
18:29.31fropwell, i prefer not getting to ads sites...but that's it...need to live with it
18:29.33sag_ich_nichtwhy are you asking in here frop
18:29.35sag_ich_nichtthere is #wau
18:30.08winkilleroy, wowclonedb ad in WAU :O
18:30.13fropohh...didn't know...trying to ask it there...maybe there's no such a sag_ich_nicht
18:30.22dafirelol
18:30.27sag_ich_nichtcorrect.
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18:35.03Reclusehere's the WAU error log for it: http://recluse.pastey.net/82574
18:35.41Elsiaanyone who has Recount PTR 2.4 installed and on EU PTR (either PVE or PVP) who could help me test syncing real quick?
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18:36.19Elsiajoy.. queue for PTR
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18:36.46CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Male2:
18:36.46CIA-12- More sounds
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18:38.14CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Female2:
18:38.14CIA-12- More sounds
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18:42.40CIA-1203chexsum * r61933 10KillingSpree/snds/ (13 files):
18:42.40CIA-12KillingSpree:
18:42.40CIA-12- Added some sounds for future use
18:43.21CIA-1203clovenhoof * r61934 10RootsBidder/ (GUI/GUI.lua RootsBidder.lua RootsBidder.toc):
18:43.21CIA-12RootsBidder:
18:43.21CIA-12- Updated for T6
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18:43.50CIA-1203funkydude * r61935 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:
18:43.50CIA-12BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos:
18:43.50CIA-12- Add experimental respawn timer.
18:43.50CIA-12- Remove checkforengage, use a yell instead.
18:44.01CIA-1203ckknight * r61936 10LibDogTag-2.0/Modules/Characteristics.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - use UnitClassBase("unit") for [Class] tag instead of UnitClass("unit") - 2.4 only
18:45.33Funkeh`ckknight, whats the point in changing it
18:45.44ckknightFunkeh`: because UnitClass("unit") changes in 2.4
18:45.59ckknightfor NPCs, it returns their names instead of their class
18:46.00Funkeh`works fine for my 2.4 module
18:46.02Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11458
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18:46.07Funkeh`right, for npcs
18:46.39IndustrialFunkeh`: since when did you get ops around here
18:46.59Shadowedtakeover plan
18:47.02Shadowedsoon [Ammo] will have ops
18:47.05Shadowedand they'll do a hostile takeover
18:47.15Industrialk.
18:47.30IndustrialShadowed: now post in my thread biatch.
18:47.41ShadowedDidn't cladhaire say you were stupid for trying to do that?
18:47.49IndustrialI dont care he better reply
18:47.59Industrialand dont just say "i9ndie sucks balls"
18:48.17Industrialor ill stab you with a spork :D
18:48.27ShadowedYou can't stab someone with a spork, thats why they're sporks
18:48.35IndustrialI get to go snowboarding friday for a week weet
18:48.51IndustrialShadowed: ill certainly try :D
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18:49.40ckknightIndustrial: what if I implied you sucked other things?
18:49.41Funkeh`I can't figure out why Funkeh`, pings me and Funkeh`: does not
18:49.47ckknight:-P
18:49.52Chomperslike a banana
18:49.55ulicobviously Shadowed has never been stabbed by a spork
18:50.01ckknightprecisely, Chompers
18:50.06Funkeh`Been stabbed by a Spok?
18:50.08ShadowedI generally avoid pissing people off when they're eating
18:50.10Industrialckknight: no.
18:50.13Shadowedless chance of being stabbed
18:50.18Funkeh`As in hes ears or?
18:50.28m4rku5Elsia, still need someone on the EU PTR to help you testing ?
18:50.29ulicspork not spok
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18:51.08CIA-1203chexsum * r61937 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Male/: Removed file/folder
18:51.22LunosDoes someone use Checklist2 in here?
18:52.33cncfanaticsLunos: never heard of it
18:53.16chexsumi use chicklist2
18:54.02Lunoscool ^^
18:54.19Lunoscan u tell me how I can extend the maximum digits of the MOD?
18:54.49CIA-1203nevcairiel * r61939 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua: XRS: fix GetSpellIcon call
18:54.51CIA-1203linsu * r61938 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: updated zhtw zhcn
18:55.07Elsiamarkus: yes
18:55.39StanzillaI'm on the EU PTR, too
18:55.43chexsumlunos, i dont use it
18:55.46Industrialstant on your head an gargle, then while balancing a spork(!) on your nose do a kickflip on a skateboard
18:55.46ElsiaI need people to test sync with
18:55.51IndustrialLunos: ^
18:56.00CIA-1203chexsum * r61940 10KillingSpree_UT2k4Male/ (28 files in 2 dirs):
18:56.00CIA-12KillingSpree_UT2k4Male:
18:56.00CIA-12- Re-added :x
18:56.03sag_ich_nichtElsia: asl?
18:56.05sag_ich_nicht:P
18:56.28Lunos:P
18:56.39Industrialehe
18:57.06ElsiaI should say PTR alliance side :P but can make a lvl 1 alt toon if needed horde side
18:57.13Stanzilla< alliance
18:57.18Elsianame?
18:57.23StanzillaArcádia
18:57.24Lunoshey man... just go and hack 127.0.0.1
18:57.26Stanzillanot online atm
18:57.27Elsiasec
18:57.29Lunos:P
18:57.52sag_ich_nicht[19:57] <Elsia> I should say PTR alliance side :P but can make a lvl 1 alt toon if needed horde side <--pfff
18:58.01sag_ich_nichti'm on EU PTR PVP alliance BUT i can't install the PTR client :P
18:58.15Elsiastan: ah ;) whisper elsia when on, currently on PVE EU alliance
18:58.26sag_ich_nichtso: unless you get blizz to fix the EPL installer, i can't help you :P
18:59.44CIA-1203linsu * r61941 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:59.44CIA-12Babble-2.2:
18:59.44CIA-12-updated zhtw zhcn
19:00.17syerenHmm, I have a part on my screen which I can't click at all.
19:00.28syerenAny idea on how to find out what is there?
19:00.36sag_ich_nichtH2SO4
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19:00.43NeoTronGot to see Kalecgos last night. Seems like a fun fight although we didn't have much time to do it
19:00.53StanzillaElsia: position in queue: 238 :(
19:01.10NeoTronafter our 4th try a robot spawned right where you enter his platform and removed any wipe recovery, and previous trash had started to respawn
19:01.11Wrathtideis this the proper area to ask for help regarding wowaceupdater problems?
19:01.15Elsiastan: i know :(
19:02.16Daemonasyeren make a macro with /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("You are hovering over frame: " .. GetMouseFocus():GetName()) and hotkey it, then mouseover the area
19:02.32syerenThank you.
19:02.51Daemonaand press the hotkey ,)
19:02.57ShadowedAnyone noticing that the dispel events seem to be acting weird on 2.4?
19:03.10ShadowedNot been seeing dispels from ticks of Abolish Poison beyond the initial one
19:03.35Wrathtidehas anyone else gotten the errors in wowace updater as detailed in http://pastebin.com/m7f1fc26d
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19:03.53sag_ich_nichtWrathtide gb2#wau
19:03.53CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r61942 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames: libs point to RC1
19:04.26StanzillaWrathtide: yeah, me
19:04.29Wrathtideah, sorry
19:04.32Wrathtidethanks
19:04.46Cheads"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." --George W. Bush
19:04.48WrathtideStanzilla, phew, now i know it isnt just me
19:05.24chexsumim innocent
19:05.37NeoTronI also pulled aggro on Kalecgos. WTB Omen >:-P
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19:08.35cncfanaticsCheads: s/George/Retard/
19:09.27Elsia"Childrens do learn"
19:09.57Grumis there any known error with Omen/Threat-1.0 which concerns: Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lya:2405: in function 'ToggleGameMenu': .. ? :D
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19:10.22Grumwish i had more info ><
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19:13.35Chemhi, any german in here?
19:14.11Stanzilla<
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19:17.04Primerwine seems to hate the PTR wow.exe
19:17.14break19hey guys.. attempting to make a layout for aguf-ace3 (for learning and personal use), how do I reference the font "Arial Narrow" ? I can select it in the font override settings, but would like it to be the default for my layout.
19:17.45CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r61944 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames: point libs to trunk
19:18.20break19ag`: speak of the devil. heh
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19:20.12ag`break19: you edit the layout file, and change the font paths to the path of the font you want to use
19:20.44break19ag: I did that.. its not showing a font now at all tho.
19:20.57ag`should do, it's how the default works
19:21.55Chemhi i have some simple questions i just started to play wow and now i want some hunter addons could u help me pls?
19:23.05break19[2008/02/18 13:22:26-327-x1]: ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitClass.lua:802: aUFFontString2:SetText(): Font not set etc
19:24.43break19meh, stupid \\ vs \ thing. lol
19:24.44keisshehe , we just did a reverse-mountaineering tatcic on archimonde , ezmode :)
19:25.12ag`yeah break19, I knew you were doing it wrong
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19:25.41Dreamweaveranyone here?
19:25.53Elsiathat threat-1.0 dependency change is kind of a pain in the behind.. why was that needed?
19:25.55break19heh
19:25.57DreamweaverError loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
19:25.57DreamweaverAuto-retry of addon list load
19:25.57DreamweaverError loading addon list Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
19:25.57DreamweaverComplete
19:26.03Dreamweaver^-- i just broke my updater ><
19:26.13chexsumi probably broke it
19:26.15nevcairielDaemona does the trash before kalecgos respawn?
19:26.28Daemonay
19:26.31Dreamweaveranyone know anything baout that error??
19:26.36m4rku5yeah Elsia ;D
19:26.52DashkalDreamweaver: known issue, no (currently) known solution.  Idle in #wau and hopefully we'll get an update when sylvanaar comes on
19:27.12WrathtideDreamweaver, alot of us are getting it, so dont worry
19:27.15m4rku5Elsia, they really fucked that up ;o i just manually installed LibBabble-Boss-3.0 and its still saying that it cant find it :S
19:27.19DreamweaverXD kk
19:27.35Dreamweaver:P go ahead and macro it ><
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19:27.50Dreamweaverbtw it broke just as i tried to install AceProfit_Fu with AceProfit installed
19:27.53Dreamweaverdono if thatll help
19:28.11chexsumit broke just after i renamed a directory :x
19:28.16DeksterChem: Try checking out http://www.almostgaming.com/wowguides/hunter-leveling-guide The macro alone makes Hunter nice and easy.
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19:28.28Dreamweaverohwell... ill be back in a bit.. back to wiping on RoS... f'ing noob rogues
19:28.32DeksterAs if it needed to be easier.
19:28.39DashkalStaff of the Forest Lord..... oh dear god that makes me happy
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19:29.19Elsiamarkus: I have to fix recount for PTR too because of it...
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19:30.12Ellipsisit's too bad there's no way to have it fall back on babble-boss-2.2. ...oh wait, there is, but it wasn't done
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19:30.39m4rku5well why does it say it cant find Babble-Boss-3.0 if i manually installed it as an addon ?
19:30.46m4rku5sux ;o
19:31.17Ellipsisbecause the addon that loads your embedded threat-1.0 is loading before babble-boss-3.0
19:31.30Ellipsisif you install threat standalone too you should be ok
19:31.35Ellipsisbut no promises! :)
19:31.58m4rku5sooo Recount should have added Boss-3.0 as an external too ? ;P
19:32.30Kivin!c us cenarion circle zaraki
19:32.31Ellipsisall addons that embed Threat-1.0 need their externals updated, yes
19:32.51m4rku5Elsia, gogo updated your externals haha ;D
19:33.45WoWLuaircBotKivin: zaraki is not the character you are looking for!
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19:34.55SunTsuEr, WTF happened to libDogtag? Seems like every tag is now unknown - did I miss something?
19:35.05Ellipsis?
19:35.11Ellipsisare you fully updated?
19:35.49SunTsuEllipsis: I think so. Did it some 20 minutes ago
19:36.44SunTsuAlright, nothing newer in files
19:37.08Ellipsiswhoa, yeah, it's broken
19:38.15PrimerAnyone running PTR in wine? I copied my working config.wtf over, but the graphics are still borked. Normal wow works fine
19:38.55CIA-1203ag * r61945 10Barbrawl/: Removed file/folder
19:38.56break19ag`: small suggestion for aguf3.. make the level text colored, like grey thru red..
19:39.40ag`break19: yeah I think it used to be... just haven't added it or something
19:39.43ag`forgot about it
19:40.12break19yea.. i know it used to be with the ace2 aguf.. I damn near tore my hair out looking for some unchecked option somewhere. lol
19:40.13CIA-1203ag * r61946 10/branches/Pubcrawl/: Removed file/folder
19:41.05CIA-1203ckknight * r61947 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua Modules/Characteristics.lua):
19:41.05CIA-12LibDogTag-2.0 - fix error message
19:41.05CIA-12- fix issue with [Class] tag.
19:41.07EllipsisSunTsu: ^ fixed as soon as the files page updates
19:41.18Elsiamarkus: will but I have debug code to deactivate :P
19:41.33break19oh.. if i attempt to load ace2-aguf style layouts in the new aguf, will they work? or did you change enough of the coding that they'll need to be re-written?
19:41.51break19.. thinking of porting the older ones to the newer one, if its needed.. why im asking.
19:41.53SunTsuEllipsis: Great job
19:42.09EllipsisI know, I'm so great at passing error reports along!
19:42.22break19Ellipsis: heh
19:42.29SunTsuand: ckknight: awsome job ;)
19:42.35ckknightsorry about breaking it
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19:42.39ckknightwhoopsie-doodle
19:42.54SunTsuThings happen
19:43.03break19ck's good at breaking stuff.. thankfully he's also just as good at fixing it. lol
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19:45.10ckknightI had tested in WoW 2.4 and not 2.3
19:45.13ckknightwhich was the issue
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19:45.22omeowGreetings.
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19:46.44omeowI'm trying to understand the IsInInstance function. But I don't have a lot of experience with coding. So I was hoping any one of you could give a simple example of how it works.
19:47.16omeowI think I understand after reading this page; http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance that if a player is in an instance of any type, IsInInstance() will return 1, but how does the type work?
19:47.25sb_ckknight: heart anything about strange aura display?
19:47.31what-Khi all ihave a problem when i start wau i get this error
19:47.31ckknight?
19:47.33sb_heard
19:47.36what-KError loading addon list Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
19:47.36what-KAuto-retry of addon list load
19:47.36what-KError loading addon list Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
19:47.36what-KComplete
19:47.38ckknightsb_: what strange aura display?
19:47.54break19omeow:  if I had to guess, I would say Normal/heroic/raid ?
19:48.00sb_auras dont show up since update yesterday (at least for some people)
19:48.03sb_pitbull :)
19:48.16ckknightsb_: lame
19:48.28omeowbreak19: no, the types are listed on that page too. I just don't understand how they matter/relate to the function.
19:48.33ckknightI'm working on an Aura rewrite
19:48.37Stanzillawait for the aura rewrite
19:48.41Stanzillahumm :(
19:48.42omeowSince it's described as returning a bool.
19:49.01Kivinomeow:   isin, type = IsInInstance(); if isin then print("You are in an instance of type: " .. type)
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19:49.19break19hm, i dunno.. my scriptability is still pretty basic..
19:49.34Ellipsissb_: auras not working is likely because people are getting error messages and don't know it
19:50.16ckknightStanzilla: all I have left is layout stuff
19:50.25Stanzillackknight: awesome :)
19:50.29ckknightStanzilla: but it's already safer and more featureful than normal auras
19:50.30sb_Ellipsis: hmmm okay
19:50.39ckknighte.g. weapon buffs have cooldowns and applicationCounts
19:51.31omeowKivin: I'm not quite sure what you're doing there. you're defining a new variable, which is filled with the bool and the type of instance? I do not understand the 'isin, type = IsInInstance();' part of your code.
19:51.42SunTsuYay, LibDogTag update on files. Great.
19:51.59SunTsuomeow: It just returns two variables
19:52.00Lemming2Kwill the new aura module be able to display the debuffs in a new row beneath the buffs?
19:52.32SunTsuomeow: One is a boolean and the other one a word describing the instance type
19:52.37ckknightomeow: type is like "pvp", "arena"
19:52.39omeowYes, I understand that.
19:52.57Elsiahmm that threat-1.0, how do I fix that for recount? I changed the dependencies and still get threat-1.0 to yell that it can't find LibBabble-Spell-3.0
19:53.14omeowBut the page says that IsInInstance returns a bool and that 'instanceType' returns the type in string form.
19:53.36what-Kcan someone help me please ?
19:53.36SunTsu~pil
19:53.37purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
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19:53.48Lukian~asktoask
19:53.49purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
19:53.55syerenckknight, any ETA on your Aura Rewrite?
19:53.56what-KError loading addon list Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
19:53.56what-KAuto-retry of addon list load
19:53.56what-KError loading addon list Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
19:53.56what-KComplete
19:54.05ckknightsyeren: no
19:54.09what-Kthis error i get in aceupdater
19:54.09syeren:<
19:54.19SunTsuomeow: so, what's the problem?
19:54.21syeren#wau
19:54.23StanzillaElsia: OptDep?
19:54.24Ellipsissyeren: either way, it won't take effect on 2.3
19:54.29what-K#wau
19:54.37m4rku5Elsia, now taht i fixed my problem with Threat/Babble-Boss - anything specific i should test ?
19:54.48syerenDouble click it what-K ;p
19:54.54what-Ki know :D
19:55.05Snagoor just get
19:55.07Snago~jwu
19:55.08purlJWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917
19:55.08omeowSunTsu: I lack basic understanding of lua (or any programming for that matter) I guess. =) I didn't know a variable could hold two pieces of data. Wouldn't it be an array then?
19:55.15Elsiastan: shouldn't x-embed be enough?
19:55.27StanzillaElsia: nope
19:55.29Elsiamarkus: what class you playing?
19:55.36m4rku5Elsia, shadow priest
19:56.06Elsiamarkus: can you send me a /combatlog with mana burns?
19:56.32m4rku5Elsia, sure
19:56.43Elsiaand check how it shows in recout
19:56.44Industrial~seen hed
19:56.49purlhed <n=Hed@62.118.17.248> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 199d 5h 37m 50s ago, saying: 'hedin has been kicked frome Ace2 devs :-)'.
19:56.50m4rku5how do i enable logging to file again ?
19:56.52Industrial~seen tristan
19:56.54purltristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 571d 17h 7m 48s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'.
19:57.04SunTsuomeow: Well, it could if it was a more complex data structure. But isin, type = IsInInstance(); is just 2 variables filled with the return codes. But, please, take a look at pil first
19:57.10m4rku5ah ok /combatlog on works ;P
19:57.22omeowRight. Thanks SunTsu.
19:58.02Industrialfucking crap! howmany times do I have to tell people to test their damn Ace2 addons without any other damn Ace2 addon loaded?!?!? fuckinfg externals are ALWAYS messed up and when I load it without any other addon loaded it gives me ERRORS and its ANOYING cause i have to start wow 10 TIMES over and conclude that the addon doesnt work and TRASH it
19:58.12Elsiastan: fixed optdeps, still same error
19:58.16Industrial*rage*
19:58.17dafire^
19:58.19dafire^
19:58.21StanzillaElsia:  :(
19:58.49StanzillaElsia: have you read that? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11292.msg181149#msg181149
19:58.51[dRaCo]ckknight: ping. pitbull error, the target debuff frame freezes. http://ace.pastey.net/82580
19:58.54chexsumyou spelt annoying wrong
19:59.07ckknight[dRaCo]: you should really update.
19:59.08break19.. and fucking
19:59.28Ellipsis[dRaCo]: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8435.msg181557#msg181557
19:59.47break19dr indy.. want a Valium? it'll calm ya down substantially.. :)
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20:00.54Elsiastan: thanks for the link
20:02.26break19i guess my next addon will be a casting addon... so I dont have to macro every damn spell I have.. lol
20:02.42sb_<PROTECTED>
20:02.42sb_LibRockTimer-1.0-1118 (LibRockTimer-1.0):297: in function <...terface\AddOns\LibRockTimer-1.0\LibRockTimer-1.0.lua:227>
20:02.43sb_ckknight
20:02.43break19focus=exists, cast on focus, target=exists, cast on target, else cast on self... baddabing baddaboom
20:02.55Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11460.new#new
20:03.08sylvanaar_work~x de en festgelegt
20:03.08break19oh, and always self-cast on a rightclick. heh
20:03.29[dRaCo]thought I had the latest, sorry
20:03.41CIA-1203ckknight * r61948 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:
20:03.41CIA-12PitBull - add PitBull.newFrameType, which allows custom frames to be created.
20:03.42CIA-12- remove the children/regions check for 2.3
20:03.42CIA-12- make FakeStatusBar use newFrameType
20:03.42CIA-12- add PitBull:ProvideVersion(revision, date)
20:04.12Elsiastan: thanks that helped
20:04.28break19here's an option *i'd* like to see in pitbull.. allow bars under the portrait AND beside the portrait..
20:04.41EllipsisIndustrial: will you marry me?
20:05.01break19like. hp/mana beside the portrait.. castbar/rep/xp bars under the portrait.. yummy
20:05.06ckknightbreak19: gimme $300 and I'll do it
20:05.09IndustrialEllipsis: hehe :D
20:05.15ckknightthat's about the price it'd take
20:05.23Industrialbut serious industrial is serious >:|
20:05.36break19ckknight: if I had $300 I sure wouldnt waste it on you. *grin*
20:05.39CIA-1203elsia 072.4 * r61949 10Recount/ (. Recount.toc Sync.lua Tracker.lua embeds.xml):
20:05.39CIA-12Recount:
20:05.39CIA-12- Changed Threat-1.0's new dependencies to LibBabble-Spell-3.0 and LibBabble-Boss-3.0 (pointless for this but alas). Gief Threat-2.0 nau :(
20:05.39CIA-12- Lots of other coding on pet tracking/GUI and some sync testing.
20:05.51EllipsisIndustrial: I know, I know
20:06.01Ellipsisbut what makes you think I'm not?
20:06.13Industrialckknight :P
20:06.19Industrial^______^
20:06.48sylvanaar_work! en de pray
20:06.52sylvanaar_work~ en de pray
20:07.01Ellipsis~x en de pray
20:07.02Industrialsylvanaar_work: eh?
20:07.14Ellipsisthanks purl
20:07.31sylvanaar_workpurl fails
20:07.32purlI fail?  I FAIL?  NO, YOU FAIL!!!
20:07.41sylvanaar_workqq purl
20:07.43Chompersah fail
20:07.47Chompersi wiped the kael raid
20:08.14Industrial~fail Chompers
20:08.14purlChompers: Fail.
20:08.18Chompers:<
20:08.21Industrial:>
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20:08.54Ellipsis~lick Industrial
20:08.54purlACTION licks Industrial *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
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20:13.33sag_ich_nichtgah
20:13.34sag_ich_nichtfucking moron raidleader
20:13.44sag_ich_nichthe deleted and recreated all the raids in the raidplaner
20:14.23dafireget lost
20:14.25sag_ich_nichtand is now playing innocent
20:14.39sag_ich_nichtand now nearly nobody is registered for the raid tomorrow -.-
20:14.39Primerraidplanner is an addon?
20:14.42Primeror a web site?
20:14.44sag_ich_nichtwebsite
20:14.50Primermay I see it?
20:15.02sag_ich_nichtfor which purpose?
20:15.06PrimerI implemented a raid calendar for my guild, but they refuse to use it
20:15.24sag_ich_nichtit's just EQDKP, see http://eqdkp.com/
20:15.25Primerplus I had to hack the code to get around date/time deficiencies
20:15.30Primerthanks
20:15.47sag_ich_nichtwhich reminds me
20:15.50sag_ich_nichtoh exploitable
20:15.52m4rku5Primer, we have our own raid-dkp-drop system ;)
20:16.00sag_ich_nichtmy SQL injection fun on our raid planer
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20:16.06Primerit's not for dkp
20:16.09Primerit's just to sign up
20:16.19m4rku5well ours is all-in-one ^^
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20:16.36Primerhttp://www.theredemptionguild.net/modules.php?name=Raid_Calendar
20:17.03Primerhacked into an iframe
20:17.24sag_ich_nichtoh great, X site scripting
20:17.34sag_ich_nichtawesome
20:17.40chexsum:\
20:17.45sag_ich_nichti should just delete the whole raidplaner to proof that he's a moron
20:18.27NeoTronMy guild is called Adrenaline. We're creating an opposite faction guild named Epinephrine :)
20:18.43sag_ich_nichthm
20:18.46Fisker-do want to know sag_ich_nicht
20:18.53sag_ich_nichtFisker- what?
20:19.02Fisker-how you're going to do that :O
20:19.05sag_ich_nichti should just change my IP and do it
20:19.26sag_ich_nichthttp://www.google.com/search?q=eqdkp+exploit+"proof+of+concept"
20:19.27sag_ich_nicht:P
20:19.59Fisker-where does phpraider come in?
20:20.01dafirewho is still using old eqdkp versions ?
20:20.14sag_ich_nichtdafire: my raid, apparently
20:20.22NeoTronI think PHP isn't more insecure than anything else per se, but I do think people coding in PHP haev a larger area of ppl w/o a clue
20:20.28sag_ich_nicht[21:17] <sag_ich_nicht> i should just delete the whole raidplaner to proof that he's a moron
20:20.31sag_ich_nicht*prove btw.
20:20.38NeoTronI mean eqdkp code is horrid, as is the import plugin I am using
20:20.44NeoTronit's not the language that makes it bad
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20:21.25dafireeqdkp is based on phpbb and thats crap
20:22.44CIA-1203archarodim * r61950 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc:
20:22.44CIA-12LibBabble-Spell-3.0
20:22.44CIA-12- Updated .toc French description
20:22.52sylvanaar_worksomeone go fix the killing spree ## Interface: TOC entry before I go on a spree of my own
20:23.05hasteNeoTron: well, PHP _is_ a horrible language
20:24.04Dashkalwait, the WAU explosion is cause the thing is choking on a TOC entry?
20:24.10dafirenot really .9
20:24.13sylvanaar_workyes
20:24.23DashkalAhh, the reason I hate text parsing
20:24.32sag_ich_nichthttp://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB05-229.html#EQDKP <--it's kind of scary seeing a DKP system on a .gov domain.
20:24.59NeoTronhaste: I am not saying it's great
20:24.59sylvanaar_workwau thinks the toc is a number
20:25.11NeoTronhaste: but you can write equally bad code in other languages.
20:25.14sylvanaar_workcause - well, it is...
20:25.34CIA-1203elsia * r61951 10Recount/ (Recount.toc embeds.xml):
20:25.34CIA-12Recount:
20:25.35CIA-12- More LibBabble-Spell-3.0 and LibBabble-Boss-3.0 fixups. What a waste of time... guys 2.4 is about so LibBabble-Spell-3.0 dies.
20:25.39hasteNeoTron: yes ofc, but it doesn't change the fact that it's horribly slow and inconsistent
20:26.19CIA-1203archarodim * r61952 10Decursive/ (. DCR_init.lua Dcr_DIAG.lua Decursive.toc embeds.xml):
20:26.19CIA-12Decursive:
20:26.19CIA-12- Uses LibBabble-Spell-3.0 instead of Babble-Spell-2.2
20:26.28sylvanaar_workfix it seriously
20:26.55sylvanaar_workchange it from 20400-pre to 20400
20:27.13Primerso eqdkp is just a forum
20:27.27dodgaStrange, those "proof of concepts" don't work on my installations of eqdkp :(
20:27.40Ozguliis there any way to filter the buffs/debuffs that Quartz shows?
20:29.25sylvanaar_workchexsum PING PING
20:29.39sag_ich_nichtjesus christ THANK GOD archarodim updated.
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20:32.07CIA-1203funkydude * r61953 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Add an IsModuleActive check
20:32.49Lemming2Kanyone else having problem loading the addon list in wau?
20:33.28CIA-1203peragor 07AutoLayout * r61954 10Grid/Grid/ (12 files): Grid: Restructured menu to make more sense with the planned GridLayoutPlus merge.
20:33.29DashkalLemming2K: known issue, being worked on
20:33.35Lemming2Kk
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20:33.42Stanzillachexsum: yo, fix your addon :P
20:34.02Dashkalhow long until WAU can be coded to not asplode with a bad TOC? :p
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20:34.30MikkDashkal: shouldnt be needed - authors need to stop sucking
20:34.43sylvanaar_workDashkal forever
20:34.59Dashkal*cackles and just hapily removes WAU*
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20:35.08Dashkalclosed source, lazy coders... no more wau for me
20:35.20Mikkyour loss - it's not like anyone's making money out of it
20:35.21Fisker-lol
20:35.56CIA-1203stan * r61955 10KillingSpree/KillingSpree.toc:
20:35.56CIA-12KillingSpree:
20:35.56CIA-12- fix toc
20:35.59sylvanaar_workffs you are lucky to even have it
20:36.00Stanzillamoo
20:36.03sylvanaar_workthx stan
20:36.08Stanzillanp
20:36.20Dashkalthat reminds me, is there an easy way to keep WAU from seing a mod whiel still having it in trunk?  I don't want people using wau to get nexus until it's at least into beta
20:36.29Mikkdont have it in trunk
20:36.36Mikkput it in /branches
20:36.38DashkalI need files.wowace.com to work
20:36.45Dashkalso I can get it to testers with a link
20:36.52Mikkfiles.wowace.com is where WAU gets stuff from
20:37.00Mikkso you're a bit screwed
20:37.02Elsiahmm did the way SetLevel works change on the PTR?
20:37.23DashkalMikk: I know, I was hoping there was something I could stick in the TOC or some such to make WAU ignore it while still letting files.wowace.com show it
20:37.39Mikkno, there's currently no way of doing that
20:37.46DashkalI can zip and send myself if I must, I just didn't want a "public release" until beta is all
20:37.52Mikkthe whole thing is being reworked into an alpha/beta/stable etc system
20:38.01Mikksince for now WAU is always alpha
20:38.04Mikkbut not everyone realizes that
20:38.06Mikkand gets cranky
20:38.10DashkalMikk: so I hear, but I last heard about that back in october
20:39.03MikkIndeed. Someone is getting thoroughly needled for that, believe me :P
20:39.12sylvanaar_workthe problem was someone put ## Interface: 20400-Pre, and so it said "20400-Pre" in the feed, and that's invalid
20:39.41Dashkalsylvanaar_work: I understand the issue, I just find it funny that such a stupid error causes the entire program to explode rather than just hiding the problem mod
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20:40.40sylvanaar_workwhatever
20:40.51Chemis zufällig ein deutscher hier?
20:40.51MikkIt doesn't even need fixing in wau
20:41.03MikkIt should be prevented from being pushed to files.wowace to begin with
20:41.32Dashkalmikk: quite likely so as it's outright invalid, but that doesn't change the fact that WAU is exceedingly fragile
20:41.36sylvanaar_workthe xml was invalid, the serializer threw an exception
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20:42.51ShindouHikaruWhere can I get Omen 2.0?
20:42.56MikkErm... files.wowace generated XML data that does not validate according to its own rules. WAU reacts accordingly.
20:43.04MikkHow does that make WAU "exceedingly fragily"
20:43.24Mikk-y+e  +?
20:43.24DashkalMikk: that's about equivilent to apt-get suddenly failing because someone committed a bad deb
20:43.46MikkNo. It's equivalent to apt-get suddenly failing because their index scripts generated a busted index file.
20:43.53sylvanaar_workyou are talking out of your ass Dashkal
20:43.56Dashkalthe package manager should skip the invalid entry and move on
20:44.49sylvanaar_workits cute you think its parsed line by line
20:44.52Dashkalsylvanaar_work: No, I simply have a different philosophy regarding good programming than you do.
20:45.09MikkWAU didn't explode because a toc was busted. WAU exploded because "latest.xml" wasn't formatted right.
20:45.28MikkThat's distinctly different.
20:45.37sylvanaar_workits easy to be a critic
20:45.56Dashkalsylvanaar_work: I do software for a living
20:46.05sag_ich_nicht[21:40] <Chem> is zufällig ein deutscher hier? <--nein.
20:46.14sag_ich_nichtaber gut dass du so nationalistisch bist
20:46.15CIA-1203elsia 072.4 * r61956 10Recount/WindowOrder.lua:
20:46.15CIA-12Recount:
20:46.15CIA-12- Fixed SetLevel given the new 2.4 behavior of children automatically getting their levels adjusted from the parent.
20:46.15sag_ich_nichtnazi
20:46.16sag_ich_nicht:(
20:47.00sag_ich_nichtokay
20:47.01sag_ich_nichtso
20:47.08sag_ich_nichtis latest.xml formated properly now?
20:47.46sylvanaar_workyou can set the NoCache header to make the webserver give you a new copy
20:48.00sylvanaar_workonly one person needs to do it
20:48.25CIA-1203kunda * r61957 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/deDE.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: deDE fix
20:48.51Elsiababble-spell-3.0 should die...
20:49.15Mikksylvanaar_work: ?  ehm... the files script is still ran once every 20 mins afaik
20:49.25sylvanaar_workoh yeah
20:49.29sag_ich_nichtElsia: wait for 2.4 and it will
20:49.43Mikkand yeah it's been regenerateed
20:49.48Mikkwau gets the list just fine
20:49.48sag_ich_nichtbut until then i'd like to be able to play WITHOUT loading 2.2 AND 3.0.
20:50.04Elsiawaste of time to make that change
20:50.16Mikkoh no! static memory!
20:50.18sag_ich_nichtElsia: it's a waste of MY time to have increased loading time
20:50.28sag_ich_nichtMikk: oh no! loading time!
20:50.28Mikkit makes my wow run slooooow! i think! i havent tested it! but i think so!!!!111111
20:50.38sylvanaar_worklol
20:50.47sylvanaar_worksomone told me it did lol
20:50.51sag_ich_nichtMikk you can stop now, i know how static memory works, but it still increases my login time, and that is already way too long
20:51.17sylvanaar_workits true the more stuff you have the longer your load time
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20:51.40Elsiasag: compat layer for babble-spell-3.0 would have been the clean solution... now it wastes your and my time
20:51.44CIA-1203archarodim * r61958 10Decursive/Dcr_utils.lua:
20:51.44CIA-12Decursive:
20:51.44CIA-12- The MUF representing the "focus" target is no longer seen as a pet in its tool-tip when the focus is not a real player.
20:51.49Fisker-resort to namecalling
20:51.51sag_ich_nichtElsia: that already exists
20:51.53Fisker-always the solution
20:52.01sag_ich_nichtFisker-: die IRL?
20:52.06sag_ich_nichtElsia: problem is it doesn't work
20:52.09Fisker-no u
20:52.10Fisker-also
20:52.12Fisker-your mother
20:52.19sylvanaar_workFisker- you are too much
20:52.20Fisker-see? Already won
20:52.36Elsiaget a room guys
20:52.44Fisker-yeah Ellipsis
20:52.57Fisker-why would you do that? :(
20:53.02sag_ich_nichtoh
20:53.18sag_ich_nichti know why the babble 2.2 compt. layer doesn't work
20:53.18Kuja^because he can?
20:53.18sag_ich_nichtFisker-: because i'm not bisexual, sorry.
20:53.25Fisker-sure you are
20:53.28Fisker-you're just denying it
20:53.35sag_ich_nichtnope :)
20:53.37sag_ich_nichtanyway
20:53.45sag_ich_nichti know why the babble-2.2 compt. layer isn't working
20:53.48Fisker-studies show that we're bisexual
20:53.51Fisker-in nature
20:54.04Ellipsisyour mom's bisexual
20:54.11Fisker-just like yours
20:54.14sag_ich_nichtFisker-: well, then you can assume that i am unatural
20:54.14sag_ich_nicht:)
20:54.33sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: stab ckknight to remove the unneeded req. deps from the babble-2.2 compt. layer
20:54.50sylvanaar_workReq Deps are so evil
20:54.53ckknightyou do it
20:55.11sag_ich_nichtckknight: i don't have an SVN account :P
20:55.18ckknightnow whose fault is that?
20:55.24sylvanaar_workwhy not - you have been here forevery
20:55.26Ellipsisreqdeps are not evil when used properly
20:55.38sylvanaar_workomg - ok
20:56.18sag_ich_nichtsylvanaar_work:
20:56.21sag_ich_nicht~emulate sag_ich_nicht
20:56.24purlyes because i am retarded
20:56.30sag_ich_nichtgah
20:56.44sag_ich_nichtpurl no, emulate sag_ich_nicht is <reply> because i am retarded
20:56.44purlokay, sag_ich_nicht
20:56.47sag_ich_nicht~emulate sag_ich_nicht
20:56.47purlbecause i am retarded
20:56.47Dashkalquestion: does haste rating work for druids in forms?
20:57.01sag_ich_nichtDashkal: you mean melee haste? i think so
20:57.14sag_ich_nichtwon't do much tho, you don't do much damage with your auto attack
20:57.24Dashkalthat explains http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/tamelessbreeches.jpg I was under the impression that cat/bear attack speed was fixed
20:57.27sylvanaar_workreq deps = longer load times
20:57.30sylvanaar_worktrue story
20:57.48Dashkalseeing green armor and haste on the same item confused me
20:58.24ckknightsylvanaar_work: do you have any idea how silly that sounds? If you have a legitimate required dependency, it will be necessary either way
20:58.38ckknightso your concept of "req deps = longer load times" just seems awfully silly
20:59.11CIA-1203kunda * r61959 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
20:59.11CIA-12LibBabble-Boss-3.0:
20:59.11CIA-12- removed Warlord Jin'Zakk (not in game) from all locales
20:59.11CIA-12- deDE update
20:59.27sag_ich_nichthere, i think yours is broken
20:59.49ckknightmust be blocked by this whole "you can't see people's faces or hear their voices on an IRC channel" thing
21:00.48sylvanaar_workyou just missed the reference to something about 2 pages up
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21:00.58durcynor hear their muffled screams.
21:02.21sag_ich_nichtOH NOES
21:02.30aestilEllipsis: i transfered
21:02.40sag_ich_nichtit's not working!
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21:03.20Ellipsisaestil: o rly? whar?
21:03.32aestilcenarian something or other.
21:03.44Ellipsiso rly!
21:03.46Ellipsisdammit
21:03.48Ellipsisnow I have to :(
21:03.48aestilyarly
21:04.00aestili think my wife will be transfering her priest tommorow.
21:04.06aestilalthough our play time is severly limited now.
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21:07.58grimmanJust shooting in the dark here, but can anyone tell me why PitBull won't let me change the positions of auras when I enable the "split" option? The options under "Side" are greyed out, and google is not proving very useful in this regard.
21:10.17Ellipsisare you in config mode?
21:10.22grimmanYep.
21:10.31grimmanSolo, party, raid... no difference.
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21:10.52Ellipsisdo you have both buffs and debuffs enabled on the frame?
21:11.00grimmanAffirmative.
21:11.16grimmanEnabling just one doesn't work either.
21:11.17CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61960 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Fix LibQuixote-2.0.lua:374: attempt to get length of field '?'
21:11.30sag_ich_nichtthe following addons are still using babble-2.2 instead of 3.0 btw.: Aloft, AddonLoader, AtlasLoot, Decursive, Talismonger-3.0, Cartographer_Mining, _Herbalism, _Treasure, _Stats, _Fishing, _Cleanup, _Import, _nnTrainers, _Noteshare, _Quests, _QuestObjectives, _QuestInfo, _Trainers, _Vendors, _InstanceNotes, _InstanceLoot, _Routes, CCBreaker, RangeCheck-1.0, Omen, PallyPower, Proximo, RatingBuster, Glory-2.0, FuBar_AddonSpa
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21:12.37Ellipsisnot sure then grimman, it's working fine here
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21:13.39grimmanI don't see why it shouldn't work here either. Puzzling!
21:15.01fropweird
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21:16.13grimman/grumble
21:16.30grimmanNow the "Side" item isn't showing at all.
21:17.13CIA-1203gagorian * r61961 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.lua):
21:17.13CIA-12DrDamage:
21:17.13CIA-12- Now updates actionbar when you train a new rank of a spell
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21:22.47Elsiastan: ping
21:23.16StanzillaElsia: pong
21:23.20Elsiastill on ptr?
21:23.39Stanzillanope but I can log in if you want me to
21:23.51Elsiahmm actualy let me first commit a new version
21:26.19CIA-1203elsia 072.4 * r61962 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Sync.lua):
21:26.19CIA-12Recount:
21:26.19CIA-12- Differential sync now only sends player's own data during combat. Everything
21:26.19CIA-12will get a combatant-wide sync when leaving combat. This should reduce the sync
21:26.19CIA-12traffic by a factor of close to (partysize-1), i.e. a factor of 24 in raid.
21:26.33Elsiastan: can you get that version and test some on PTR with me?
21:26.56sb_mhh - do you need heart of darkness for 2.4 stuff?
21:27.43StanzillaElsia: yup
21:27.46Elsiacoolio
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21:28.37ulichehe, icons don't fade with chat properly on ptr
21:29.05Dashkalheh, let us know how that test goes.  I'm in the midst of purging most of my addons and wouldn't mind sparing recount :p
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21:30.02Elsiadash: will likely work.. was a trivial change
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21:31.09DashkalDoes anybody know how much of an improvement 2.4 is graphics-wise?  I'm trying to figure out how much of the speedup is the code and how much is the fact that I have zero addons
21:31.57sb_zero addons? haha, $insertRandomInsultHere!
21:32.01sb_no idea tbh :)
21:32.42Dashkalsp_ only zero on the PTR :p  I was curious if my druid was actually playable that way.  Turns out she is, I was in shock
21:32.51Dashkalsb*
21:33.06[SW]Dodgeis there a way to get the position of frame A relative to frame B even if A:GetPoint() returns nil as relativTo parameterß
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21:38.46CIA-1203archarodim * r61963 10Decursive/Dcr_utils.lua:
21:38.46CIA-12Decursive:
21:38.46CIA-12- Really fixed the "pet" problem with focused units.
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21:43.49CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61964 10BetterQuestTracker/ (core.lua gui.lua):
21:43.49CIA-12BetterQuestTracker:
21:43.49CIA-12-Make clicking display a decent tooltip for non-2.4.
21:43.49CIA-12-Size the tracker to better account for the potential of wrapping.
21:45.11Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11458.msg181640#msg181640
21:46.11kenlyricmods which check for range, like grid, default to 28 yards. Why is this?
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21:47.24CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61965 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Fix LibQuixote-2.0\LibQuixote-2.0.lua:205: attempt to index global 'Quixote' (a nil value)
21:47.43NivFreakI don't suppose the wowjustu owner hangs out around here
21:47.57CIA-1203ammo * r61966 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: fix bs
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21:49.10DashkalIndustrial: I seem to recall that destructors were specifically _not_ included in lua.  I recall a thread on the mailing list about it that got nowhere (just some responses along the lines of "Why would you want that"?
21:49.41Industrial"Why would you want that?" is a synonym of "I don't really know."
21:49.51|Pixel|err..
21:49.52KinxMost likely been asked a dozen of times before, but is there any news on Threat 2.0 and if theres a working build out, is it implemented in any addon?
21:50.13IndustrialI want that cause else I need to call a destruct before I nil it out.
21:50.17Dashkalhe wanted it as a last-ditch place to close some network resources so the socket wouldn't have to time out
21:51.08IndustrialI just want to be able to say that I dont want my event to fire anymore by simply deleting it :p
21:54.59Dashkalthere is one argument in favour of explicit destruction, though: It makes it absolutely clear when the event is discarded.  With a descructor that fires on the next gc, the event would continue to fire until then, and if someone accidently keeps a handle it never goes away
21:55.04sylvanaar_worksag_ich_nicht what do you mean they are still using it? why wouldnt they?
21:55.14NivFreakgod the armory is such a turd
21:56.13CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61967 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua:
21:56.13CIA-12LibQuixote-2.0:
21:56.13CIA-12-Add zone to quest lost/gained callbacks.
21:56.13CIA-12-Remove now-pointless completion map table.
21:56.14kenlyricno, the armory website is such a tard
21:56.17sylvanaar_workIndustrial the paradigm you are trying to use RAII does not apply to GC'd systems unless it is added artifically
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21:56.22kenlyricfind someone to make you a better website
21:56.27kenlyricthat's what I did!
21:57.13NivFreak?
21:57.46NivFreakthe majority of my issues with the armory are around performance/stability
21:57.54kenlyricright
21:57.55Industrialsylvanaar_work: post :D
21:57.56kenlyricthe armory is fine
21:58.01kenlyricthe armory website is fail
21:58.25durcyni don't know, it serves as an excellent example of how not to do use ajax and flash
21:58.26kenlyricremove the shit and it's quite speedy
21:58.41sylvanaar_workIndustrial are you asking me to post or telling me to read it
21:58.42kenlyrictrue
21:58.53Industrialasking you to post
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22:07.21CIA-1203kemayo 07kemayo * r61968 10BetterQuestTracker/ (core.lua gui.lua):
22:07.21CIA-12BetterQuestTracker:
22:07.21CIA-12-Add wrap options for titles and objectives.
22:07.21CIA-12-Rearrange config slightly.
22:07.22CIA-12-Click should only respond to leftbutton.
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22:10.57sylvanaar_workIndustrial ok i did
22:11.00sag_ich_nicht[22:55] <sylvanaar_work> sag_ich_nicht what do you mean they are still using it? why wouldnt they? <--because loading babble-2.2 AND babble-3.0 is retarded and eats my loading time, that's why. :P
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22:11.15sylvanaar_workoh
22:11.33sag_ich_nichtand babble-2.2-comp does not work
22:11.56sag_ich_nicht~lart sylvanaar
22:11.56purlbeats sylvanaar to within 2.54cm of his life
22:12.47sylvanaar_worki dont like the blizzard loader, you can see how many *Deps i use
22:14.18sylvanaar_workThere is no reason to load a LOD addon until you need to use it - opdeps and reqdeps screw that up, but I lost that battle a long time ago
22:14.41sag_ich_nichtsylvanaar: QQ
22:14.48sag_ich_nichtnow convert to babble-3.0!
22:14.56dafireget lost
22:15.06sag_ich_nichtno u
22:15.40sylvanaar_worki just call GetLibrary("Babble-Class-2.2"), is there babble-class-3.0?
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22:18.47[SW]DodgeYES! =D
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22:19.55sylvanaar_workif you want to update Prat, just change Prat\extras\Frameworks.lua, and set the correct library name
22:19.58Funkeh`I fail o undestand the need for babble class
22:20.01Avok, who broke WoW
22:20.02Funkeh`you can do that locally
22:20.26sylvanaar_workYou can do everything locally, lets all do that
22:20.32Pkekyo|son of a fucking bitch
22:20.32Pkekyo|I just spent 12 hours at school
22:20.40Funkeh`In a perfect world, yeah
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22:22.13Funkeh`How are you today sexy?
22:22.41Seerahwho me?
22:22.51CIA-1203benumbed * r61969 10DaPortrait/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
22:22.51CIA-12DaPortrait:
22:22.51CIA-12- Removed alot of redundant code.
22:22.55ThorgardFunkeh`, I'm fine, thank you.
22:23.00Seerahlol
22:23.05Funkeh`...
22:23.19SeerahI'm fine.  A little tired.  You? :)
22:23.48Funkeh`Depressed, my gf is lieing in bed with a broken leg and a cold on top of that.
22:24.21Seerahawwww
22:24.22CIA-1203peragor * r61970 10GridLayoutPlus/ (5 files):
22:24.22CIA-12GridLayoutPlus:
22:24.22CIA-12- Restructured menu in plans to merge it with the core.
22:24.22CIA-12- changed some events over to bucket events for unit changes to reduce lag/hickups.
22:24.31AntiarcYour Feed Pet Effect energizes Bagon 35 ($powerType)
22:24.33Seerahgo cheer her up!  Do a song and dance routine
22:24.52Funkeh`I've been lieing in bed with her most of the day
22:25.05SeerahI bet you feel blah now too
22:25.12sylvanaar_workyou are right about babble-class, but its been in Prat since before I even had anything to do with it
22:25.46sylvanaar_workmost likely, i take it out - and it breaks something obscure
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22:34.19sag_ich_nicht[23:23] <@Funkeh`> Depressed, my gf is lieing in bed with a broken leg and a cold on top of that. <--sounds like she's asking for it
22:34.26Chomperskael is hard going :/ whoever said its a fun fight lied
22:34.35sag_ich_nichtkill yourself, kael is fun
22:34.56AntiarcKael's a lot of fun.
22:35.13Ellipsiswhoops, wrong troll
22:35.18Ellipsisoh well /shrug
22:35.18Chompersperhaps if you're overgeared
22:35.21NeroxWhich do you all think has a lower mem usage. Pitbull or Ag_unitframes?
22:35.25Chompersbut for its level, ouch
22:35.46Chompersthe trading of weapons/shield is so annoying
22:36.12AeyanLower mem? Ag.
22:36.15Funkeh`Nerox, aguf has lower, pitbull does more, but does it mater?
22:36.24Funkeh`use what you need
22:36.32Funkeh`choice ftw
22:37.24durcyn~seen Wobin
22:37.55purlwobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'I still like http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=168'.
22:37.55sag_ich_nicht[23:35] <Chompers> the trading of weapons/shield is so annoying <
22:37.55sag_ich_nichtur doin it rong
22:37.55NeroxIt does matter to me a bit. I like playing my game with the lowest possible amount of mem usage. during raids I run about 111MB and it's fine. If I load up auctioneer before I head out to raid it gets up to 200 and I have to re-start my WoW during the raid.
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22:37.55sag_ich_nichtif you need to trade the weapons you're doing it wrong
22:37.55sag_ich_nichtthe only one that MAYBE needs to get the weapon traded is the healer of the WL tank for cap
22:37.55Chompersi take a shield to a tank ,shammy takes a sword
22:37.55dodgawow.. 111megs in raids is.. wow :D
22:37.56dodgawtf are you doing? :D
22:37.59Aeyan**Choke
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22:38.04sag_ich_nichtdodga: huh? 170 MB and growing
22:38.05sag_ich_nichtwhat you want?
22:38.15dodgaAnd I thought I was paranoid with <40mb :o
22:38.16ckknightvhaarr: ping
22:38.17AeyanWait, did you just say lowest mem possible and run 111MB and it's fine?
22:38.20AeyanHaha
22:38.27sag_ich_nichtgod damn it
22:38.28sag_ich_nichtokay
22:38.29NeroxWell, non-raid I run about 28.
22:38.34sag_ich_nichtlet me write it again for all you fucking noobs
22:38.36sag_ich_nichtin capslock
22:38.37sag_ich_nichtbold
22:38.38sag_ich_nichtunderlined
22:38.40sag_ich_nichtand red
22:38.42dodgaPlx do so
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22:38.57Elsialua> 0==1
22:38.57lua_botElsia: false
22:39.11Elsiaa=0==1; print(a)
22:39.16Elsialua> a=0==1; print(a)
22:39.16lua_botElsia: false
22:39.24sag_ich_nicht4STATIC MEMORY USAGE DOES NOT LOWER YOUR FPS UNLESS YOU CONFIGURED YOUR FUCKING MEMORY MANAGMENT IN WINDOWS WRONG OR HAVE LIKE FUCKING 512 MB RAM AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES
22:39.29sag_ich_nichtnow hush, go away
22:39.34dodgaCan I have that in green?
22:39.37NivFreakouch
22:39.46Funkeh`sag_ich_nicht, first warning, stop the bolts, colours etc. you're pissing me off
22:39.47dodgaNo blinky? :(
22:39.51Chompers*rage*
22:40.00sag_ich_nichtFunkeh`: i was done anyway, but thanks for the warning.
22:40.01Funkeh`bold
22:40.04NeroxGood thing I don't have a problem with my FPS >_>
22:40.56Aeyansag_ich_nicht.... I'd venture to say most people know that.
22:41.05AeyanBut it does influence load times and some people care about that
22:41.17AeyanOthers just like to tweak and trim for efficiency as a hobby
22:41.18ckknightAeyan: I'd venture to say that most people don't make that connection
22:41.18sag_ich_nichtAeyan if you scroll up, some people apparently don't understand itt
22:41.19sag_ich_nicht-t
22:41.39AeyanYou're just as bad as the group you're targeting when you do that as far as 'annoying'
22:41.40AeyanHehe
22:41.43Finsag_ich_nicht: sorry what?
22:42.00Tullerstatic memory usage makes me go, "hey this thing is using memory, why?"
22:42.02CIA-1203antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61971 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Cast threat values received from group members to numbers. Strings don't do comparisons so nicely.
22:42.07sag_ich_nichtnow go look up PagedPoolSize because you probably have it set too low with a video card with too much RAM for the default windows setting, causing your pagedpool to get used up, then your video card tries to access the pagedpool, it's full, and your WoW crashes, and if your driver is shitty, your PC probably bluescreens
22:42.13CIA-1203piranther * r61972 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Display 'deps' list in alphabetical order by mod '## Title:' field from each mod's .toc file.
22:42.25Finwait... my spidey sense is tingling. I sense... frustration.
22:42.29sag_ich_nichtand if you didn't see that between CIA-12's spam i'll repeat it
22:43.52sag_ich_nichtused to crash my WoW all the time until i fixed it, settting it to 0xFFFFFFF isn't the best idea either to be honest unless you have 4GB of RAM like I do, but increasing it to something like 192 MB should do for most people
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22:44.08Nerox<--4GB of ram lol
22:44.21Funkeh`i got 4gb of ram in this laptop
22:44.24Funkeh`it's nothing
22:44.28dodgaNerox: Then you should use agUF AND Pitbull at the same time!
22:44.31Funkeh`saying that though i cna only use 3.5gb
22:44.37sag_ich_nichtFunkeh`: same here
22:44.39hasteI have 1GB!
22:44.42CIA-1203antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61973 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix distracting shot/disengage
22:44.42Funkeh`maybe one day i'll use a 64bit os
22:44.44hasteand I use 600M when I play WoW
22:44.46hasteI clearly need more
22:44.48sag_ich_nichtNerox: i suggest you set your PagedPoolSize to 0xFFFFFFF and see if you don't have to restart your WoW anymore :P
22:45.42sag_ich_nicht(you can thank Valve and Team Fortress 2 for this btw., because unlike WoW, it yells at you if your PagedPool is getting eaten up instead of just crashing)
22:45.49Finhm
22:45.50Neroxlol
22:45.56FinI didn't know this about PagedPoolSize
22:46.01Finhowever, mine is set to 0 at the moment
22:46.10sag_ich_nichtthat is the default setting
22:46.14FinI see
22:46.18sag_ich_nichtit means windows tries to allocate "enough"
22:46.36FinI can see Windows being very stupid about that
22:46.48SunTsuHm, looks like I found out what destroyed MobMap with Cartographer.. Looks like there was a change in Cart some time ago and since then mobmap used the wrong parent frame for the map dots
22:46.58Finthanks very much for the info, sag
22:47.16mort!points 250
22:47.17Xinhuan250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating.
22:47.19sag_ich_nicht0xFFFFFFF is the opposit of it, it means windows tries to allocate as much as possible to the pagedpool, which normally isn't really the best idea
22:47.29Finany other obscure pearls of wisdom?
22:47.34sag_ich_nichtbut if you have 4/3.5GB it doesn't really matter anymore
22:47.35FinI have 2GB
22:48.16FinI would like WoW to use man
22:48.25FinMSN's search really is shit
22:48.43sag_ich_nichttry setting it to 192 MB, the more hardware you have in your PC and the more RAM your video card has, the more you need, it's a bit(i'm making a huge understatement here, i don't even completely understand it myself :P) more complicated than that, but meh
22:48.48Chompersgrrr stupid kael
22:48.48Finthey've included results for "The Knowledge Base (KB) Article You Requested Is Currently Not ..."
22:48.58FinI have 768 MB on my graphics card...
22:49.01Chompersyou have to kill people to remove the mc
22:49.04Chompers*rage*
22:49.43FinI'm having trouble finding a description of what PagedPoolSize *is* - and how much to increase it by if I wanted to try - and whether the value is in bytes or KB or what - hints welcome :)
22:50.00sag_ich_nichthttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/29937.mspx
22:50.07Antiarchttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/29937.mspx?mfr=true
22:50.15sag_ich_nichtbeat you to it Antiarc :P
22:50.16Finyeah, I saw that, but it's actually not very useful
22:50.31FinDescription
22:50.32FinSpecifies the size of the paged pool .
22:50.43Finwhich links to... the TechNet index
22:51.00sag_ich_nichtfin is using Firefox 2
22:51.02sag_ich_nichti know he does
22:51.05FinOpera
22:51.08sag_ich_nichtmeh
22:51.15sag_ich_nichttry in IE and magically technet works
22:51.16Finsince v3, baby!
22:51.17sag_ich_nicht:P
22:51.30sag_ich_nicht(or in Firefox 3 :P)
22:51.37Finyeah, I know, and I hate TechNet deeply for that, but, fuck, I mean how hard is it to make a website where links work?
22:51.44Finhow is the beta for FF3?
22:51.52Finor alpha?
22:52.00Stanzillait looks like crap
22:52.11durcynit's fine
22:52.15sag_ich_nichtno, it isn't.
22:52.16AntiarcI like it
22:52.23sag_ich_nichtit still breaks with Type 1 fonts
22:52.23Primerok, a newb question...multi-line one-liner in lua?
22:52.31durcynyou're a bit of a princess aren't you, sag_ich_nicht.
22:52.33AntiarcPrimer: Semicolons
22:52.37PrimerAntiarc: thanks
22:52.50sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: no, but my defining emotion is anger
22:52.53Primerhrmm
22:53.00Primerperhaps I wasn't clear
22:53.05PrimerI have a very long line
22:53.06Fin"paged pool" from that above description still links to a "not found"
22:53.10Finoh, right
22:53.13Finbecause it links to this: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/startPopups('PagedPool')
22:53.18Primerand I want to break it up into multiple lines
22:53.22Findon't tell me it only works in IE 7
22:53.25AntiarcOh. Just break it up.
22:53.31Stanzillahttp://screenshots.winfuture.de/1202884045.jpg < there...looks craptapular
22:53.34sag_ich_nichtof course it only works in IE7
22:53.43Finyou mean it doesn't even work in IE 6?
22:53.47PrimerAntiarc: yeah, not having ; at the end made me think I needed something else
22:53.56sag_ich_nichtactually, i'm lying here, because i was wrong
22:53.58Primerlike how bash needs \ at the end to break up
22:53.58sag_ich_nichthold a second
22:54.00Finthat's... flabberghasting
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22:54.10AntiarcNope, Lua's pretty smart
22:54.34sag_ich_nichtalso
22:54.39sag_ich_nichti just broke technet
22:54.40sag_ich_nichthttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/startPopups(%22PagedPool%22)
22:54.57sag_ich_nichtis this awesome y/n
22:54.59Finoh hey, there's a reference underneath telling me what KB article to look up - I didn't see it because it doesn't actually link to the article
22:55.09Primerdammit, my kid just disconnected me
22:55.17Finhow shit is that... telling you, one a web page, to go look up another article, but not actually linking to it
22:55.25Finthat's just poor
22:55.30FinI bet it's a limitation of their CMS
22:55.37sag_ich_nicht:P
22:55.49Finor an imported help file
22:55.52Finor something else
22:55.54Findefinitely one of those
22:56.27Finthe only pleasure I get out of TechNet is a teeny amount from slagging it off at every (unfortunately very frequent) opportunity
22:56.35Finhate mode: activated!
22:56.41sag_ich_nichtwhat
22:56.44sag_ich_nichtthat thing has an off switch?
22:56.49Finhahah
22:57.01Finoh hey, this is a new one: http://search.technet.microsoft.com/Error/Error404.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/redirector/searchredir.aspx
22:57.20Fincompletely different error message + page to last time, it's like Blizzard with World of Errorcraft
22:57.33Finhonestly Blizzard's error messages are completely random, and never actually tell you what the problem is
22:57.40Finand every time something breaks majorly, I seem to get a new one
22:57.50sag_ich_nichtFin: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/winntas/tips/winntmag/inreg.mspx?mfr=true
22:58.14sag_ich_nichtFin: they have improved tho
22:58.23Finawesome, thanks sag
22:58.24Finyou are a star
22:58.26break19hives.. NT has a skin disorder..
22:58.30sag_ich_nichtat least the send your charname, your addons, your location, and you target now
22:58.34sag_ich_nichtand
22:58.40sag_ich_nichtafter a LONG amount of bitching
22:58.48Finsag_ich_nicht: that's true, but to my mind it makes it even worse as they're still shit beyond belief!
22:58.50sag_ich_nichtthey actually fixed their memory size detection code!
22:59.04Finhahah
22:59.12Fingf returned, I must go pay my tithes
22:59.20Finadieu~!
22:59.54sag_ich_nicht"The paged pool is a portion of the kernel's address map that NT reserves for device drivers and the kernel to use. NT can move any memory the system allocates from the paged pool to a paging file when the memory isn't in use."
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23:00.27sag_ich_nichtof course, when Windows XP was designed, nobody expected there to be video cards with 1GB of VRAM
23:00.56CIA-1203piranther * r61974 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- If no deps are currently enabled, show a little message in the 'show deps' tab that explains what deps are and why there are none enabled.
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23:02.16sag_ich_nichtand what's even MORE awesome about this is firewalls and virus scanners
23:02.22sag_ich_nichtthat install themself as device drivers
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23:03.00sag_ich_nichtwhich means: OH HELL YEAH LET'S FILL THAT KERNEL SPACE MEMORY WITH TONS OF VIRUS DATABASES AND FIREWALL EVENTS OH YEEEEEEEEAH what the render pipe broke ooops
23:03.48Elsiaanyone tested if UNIT_SPELLCAST_START now also returns spellId?
23:04.43nevcairieli doubt it
23:04.51Primersag_ich_nicht: you seem bitter
23:04.59Primersag_ich_nicht: tell me how you feel about....your mother
23:05.23Elsiaanyone posting on the UI forum requesting that change?
23:05.44sag_ich_nichtPrimer: my mother is a very kind and awesome person :)
23:05.58Primerawww
23:06.00sag_ich_nichtPrimer lemme quote something
23:06.15Elsiawhat good does spellId do if you still need to localize your cast bars
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23:06.43nevcairieldoesnt the cast event send you the localized name?
23:06.55Primerhow do I make an object out of an ace pref for the purposes of attaching properties to it?
23:07.12Elsiai guess it does, but why then do we need babble-spell for these?
23:07.15PrimerI want to use GetPoint() to get the point of my frame after it's dragged and save it
23:07.34iNs|Renewchronometer doesnt do cooldowns?
23:07.36Primerself.db.profile.FramePoint.point, etc = F:GetPoint()
23:07.36nevcairielElsia: not for castbars .. but for comparing spells etc
23:07.46Primerexcept lua complains that FramePoint doesn't exist
23:08.17sag_ich_nichtPrimer:
23:08.19sag_ich_nichtChoose no life. Choose no career. Choose no family. Choose a fucking big computer, choose disk arrays the size of washing machines, modem racks, CD-ROM writers, and electrical coffee makers. Choose no sleep, high caffeine and mental insurance. Choose no friends. Choose black jeans and matching combat boots. Choose chairs for your office in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose SMTP and wondering why the fuck you are logged on
23:08.27Elsiathen back to what I asked earlier: <Elsia> anyone posting on the UI forum requesting that change?
23:08.29sag_ich_nicht(now tell me where i got cut off)
23:08.53Primeryou are logged on
23:08.54nevcairiel"ring why the fuck you are logged on"
23:09.26sylvanaar?
23:09.38sag_ich_nichtChoose SMTP and wondering why the fuck you are logged on on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting in that swivel chair looking at mind-numbing, spirit-crushing web sites, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in some miserable newsgroup, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up lusers Gates spawned to replace the computer-literate. Choose y
23:09.52sag_ich_nichti bolded and underlined the most important part.
23:10.00Dashkalckknight: Question: any plans to convert RockConfig to use the new interface options panel?
23:10.03Funkeh`please don't
23:10.38sag_ich_nichtFunkeh`: does your irc client break or something when someone uses bold or underline? i mean i can understand colors...
23:10.40sylvanaareveryone is so cranky today
23:10.42ckknightDashkal: the new interface options panel is kinda crappy
23:10.50PrimerI guess I'll just make it self.db.profile.FramePoint_point instead
23:10.55Arrowmasterkinda?
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23:11.03ckknightcan't resize
23:11.05ckknightcan't move
23:11.06Elsianev: the only reason why the combat log needs spellId is for comparisons too...
23:11.15ckknightRockConfig autofades when you mouseout
23:11.17DashkalFair enough. That kind of limitation does suck
23:11.48nevcairielElsia: of course, but they didnt change any of the "old" stuff to use any of the new IDs .. so .. maybe you're lucky and they consider it
23:12.13Elsiawell I'd ask if I could... but I'm EU realm
23:12.18Daemonackknight is there a way to tell libdogtag to not look for threat info from threat-1.0 ?
23:12.28ckknightDaemona: don't use the tags?
23:12.33Elsiaand slouken evidently never reads the euro UI forum which ... hurts
23:13.20Neroxrestarting.
23:13.32Daemonahmm i assumed so much, but i am using a "out-of-the-box" dogtag and removed threat-1.0 and it spits helluva errors at me when using threat-2.0 and the omen 2.4 branch ;)
23:13.39Elsiathat's why I'm asking if anyone on US has even asked the question...
23:14.02EllipsisDaemona: well if you use threat tags in your dogtag addons, it will need threat-1.0
23:14.23Ellipsisso...change thoes tags, or code in a hack to use threat-2.0
23:14.23sag_ich_nichtwhich reminds me, someone tell hortus about the fact that PagedPoolSize can become too small with modern video cards
23:14.31Elsiaalas I should be happy, recount won't need babble-spell so it isn't really my problem
23:14.33nevcairielEllipsis: i guess what he is asking, a small override to just ignore those tags in 2.4 =P
23:14.43Daemonathanks nev
23:14.53Ellipsisthere is no small override for it
23:15.01PrimerAnyone try the PTR in wine? It starts up, but the graphics are all foobar
23:15.05Ellipsisthe simplest way would be to edit the threat module to use threat-2.0 instead of 1.0
23:15.07Daemonalike a [x] i could clear.
23:15.24dafirei tried ptr in wine at work and worked fine
23:15.25Elsiahow far ahead is thread-2.0?
23:15.30Ellipsisyou *could* delete the threat module altogether, then you won't get errors
23:15.41Ellipsisbut you will get "unknown tag" all over your screen wherever you're using threat tags
23:15.54nevcairieli bet you could just wrap a if around the threat handling in dogtag and let it return a empty string *shrug
23:16.00DaemonaElsia it has working single target threat but all the "other" addons using threat-1.0 are tossing a metric ton of errors ;)
23:16.15Ellipsisit's not as easy as that nevcairiel, you'd have to do that separately for each threat tag
23:16.46Ellipsisgranted there probably aren't too many of those
23:16.47nevcairielElsia: if you write a small post explaining your request for the US forums, i bet someone in here is willing to post it, just dont expect them to write it too =P
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23:20.02chiperare there any addons that will give me a timer for the 5SR
23:20.08Elsianev: I can do that though in a sense it shouldn't even be my concern... i'm just wondering why noone whose concern it should be is concerened, i.e. whoever will need to compare spells from UNIT_SPELLCAST_ stuff
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23:20.29nevcairielElsia: i dunno, who does?
23:20.41nevcairielElsia: actually, you can get the localized spellname from GetSpellInfo
23:20.43nevcairielif you know the id
23:20.48nevcairielso that shouldnt be a issue
23:20.49Elsianev: I know
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23:21.01nevcairielits just one step more on the way
23:21.22Elsiathat's why I'm not concerned.. for damage meters the problem is solved
23:21.30Funkeh`Elsia, you can use getspellinfo with spell names, no need for id's
23:21.45CIA-1203saroz * r61975 10SalvationKiller/: SalvationKiller: "omg another Salvation Killer mod, why can't we just have one!"
23:21.57Elsianev: funK: I know.. the context of my discussion is this: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11292.0
23:22.16Elsiafunk: but it won't work with names from all locales will it?
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23:22.36nevcairielbabble-spell-3.0 should be pretty much obsolete come 2.4
23:22.44nevcairielall the other babbles might not
23:22.51nevcairieldepends on the use, really
23:23.14Elsiababble-boss could be obsolete, or at least replaced by a mapping of id to localized boss name
23:23.40Funkeh`i wish
23:23.42nevcairielwell that depends, you only get the id when you engage him
23:23.55vhaarrElsia: It could not.
23:24.11harldephinis there an add-on that auto-declines chat invites?
23:24.24Elsiawell if you absolutely need targeting triggers then yeah
23:24.27[dRaCo]chat invites?
23:24.39harldephin"chat invites"
23:24.48nevcairielsure you could setup translations id -> locale .. but if english -> locale or id -> locale .. whats the point =P
23:24.56[dRaCo]like, low levels inviting you to spam you with stuff?
23:25.15harldephinno?
23:25.26[dRaCo]then I don't get what you mean
23:25.37harldephinpeople inviting other people into their chat channels?
23:25.54harldephini don't wanna join -> add-on auto-declines
23:25.55Elsianev: well you can do all comparison code without ever evoking id->locale
23:26.28Elsiayou can't if you go by localized names
23:27.47Elsiai.e. any context that doesn't need target triggers for bosses can go completely without the mapping
23:30.09harldephinpeople inviting me into a chat without whispering me first is like people wanting to duel me without doing the same thing. it's rude and annoying.
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23:30.44Finharldephin: you should join, let them know that they're cocksuckers, then put them on ignore and leave
23:30.55Funkeh`agreed
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23:31.10harldephini'm not a rude person myself, so that's not what i should do really..
23:31.25Funkeh`salvation killer no 5 on the svn?
23:32.05CIA-1203piranther * r61977 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Beautify version messages.
23:32.12Daemonadunno harldephin any basic irc script should manage that, unless you are talking about something different of course, my personal favourite is nnscript.
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23:32.34harldephini'm talking about WoW chat channels, not IRC.
23:32.49DashkalWait, you can invite someone to a wow channel? I thought it was password or nothing
23:33.04harldephinoO
23:33.05IndustrialI see spam opportunity
23:33.07Industrial:p
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23:37.40CIA-12Automaton:
23:37.40CIA-12- Gossip: Added Molten Core zone-in gossip.
23:37.40CIA-12- Gossip: Added Apprentice Angler repeatable turn-in quest.
23:37.56aestilEllipsis: what chat mod are you suing right now?
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23:41.12Ellipsisaestil: the same one I've been using for ages now...mine
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23:43.29aestilmy wife is getting so much better at guitar in rock band.
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23:54.05duaiwegah. does someone feel like fixing that threat/libbabblespell issue in aloft? :)
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23:59.39purlYou cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.02.18 23:59:39 GMT)

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