IRC log for #wowace on 20080215

`00:00.12`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Libs\LibStub -> Libs/LibStub? if yes, i've done that with last commit :O`
`00:00.37`	`[SW]Dodge`	`ah lol not with all :X`
`00:01.02`	`[SW]Dodge`	`dan small window :X`
`00:01.04`	`[SW]Dodge`	`damn*`
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`00:02.30`	`break19`	`lol`
`00:03.19`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61341 10CoolDownButtons/: CoolDownButtons: ok, finaly fixed externals...`
`00:03.20`	`CIA-12`	`03crashkurs * r61342 10ImbeerenRaid/:`
`00:03.20`	`CIA-12`	`ImbeerenRaid:`
`00:03.20`	`CIA-12`	`- Added the Libs`
`00:03.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody on ptr or going to be soon? i just thought of something that needs tested`
`00:03.43`	Funkeh`	`its down`
`00:03.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`damn`
`00:04.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`ItemRefTooltip:GetUnit() needs tested`
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`00:07.41`	`Yssaril`	`ckknight: with ur minimap addon can you move any minimap button?`
`00:07.53`	`ckknight`	`Yssaril: yea`
`00:08.08`	`ckknight`	`well, any Blizz one, custom ones, no, sorry`
`00:09.40`	`Jagobah`	`imbereen raid!`
`00:10.12`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster: that'd be interesting`
`00:10.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`since its suppost to return a unitid yes it would`
`00:10.29`	`chiper`	`ckknight: I think I know how to make it work with any minimap button. I'll play with it tonight`
`00:10.39`	`ckknight`	`cool`
`00:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`03crashkurs * r61343 10FuBar_InviteFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`00:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`FuBar_InviteFu:`
`00:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`initial commit`
`00:10.45`	`CIA-12`	`- Helping Addon for raidleaders to invite their attendants`
`00:10.50`	`ckknight`	`and if you have any troubles with the code itself, feel free to tell me`
`00:10.56`	`chiper`	`nod`
`00:12.23`	`chiper`	`I've been looking at the mappy code and I see how it's doing what it's doing. he's basically scanning all the minimap for child frames that match button like criteria`
`00:12.30`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:12.33`	`ckknight`	`that's what I was thinking`
`00:12.36`	`ckknight`	`:GetChildren()`
`00:12.42`	`Yssaril`	`ckknight: any plans on adding custom once to the list? have been using detached minimap buttons from curse but it keeps throwing taint errors ugh`
`00:12.57`	`ckknight`	`chiper: oh, and don't worry about being efficient about it, I can always make it efficient`
`00:13.02`	`chiper`	`Yssaril: that's what we're talking about`
`00:13.08`	`chiper`	`ckknight: :)`
`00:13.21`	`ckknight`	`my idea for Chinchilla is for it to be featureful and solid`
`00:13.46`	`Yssaril`	`chiper lol i should read what other people write :P`
`00:14.29`	`Yssaril`	`just a heads up the movement of the buttons should be secure since some buttons might have spell buttons attached to them`
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`00:17.54`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61344 10FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu/embeds.xml: FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu - properly use embeds.xml, instead of including embeds in .toc file`
`00:18.48`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61345 10CoolDownButtons/ (. itemgroups.lua): CoolDownButtons: added Protection Potion IDs to "Other Potions" Group :)`
`00:19.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`good night all :) ^^`
`00:20.09`	`ckknight`	`g'night`
`00:20.43`	`CIA-12`	`03crashkurs * r61346 10FuBar_InviteFu/:`
`00:20.43`	`CIA-12`	`FuBar_InviteFu:`
`00:20.43`	`CIA-12`	`- Added Libs and properties`
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`00:23.47`	`NeoTron`	`FuBar_InviteFu - what raid leader doesn't use oRA today?`
`00:25.47`	`break19`	`NeoTron: my guild doesnt use ora, or ctra, or anything else.. they find they can most all they need just using the bliz interface....`
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`00:26.14`	`break19`	`s/can most/can do most/`
`00:27.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`your guild must not use battlereses soulstones and other such stuff much`
`00:27.51`	`break19`	`yea they do.. but last time I checked, ya dont need an addon to click a spell :)`
`00:28.05`	`Bejitt`	`can you not have single quotations in svn commit messages?`
`00:28.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`you need one to know somebody elses cooldown`
`00:29.21`	`Yssaril`	`or you could just ask :P`
`00:29.27`	`break19`	`not necessarily arrow.. exactly. :)`
`00:29.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol asking`
`00:29.58`	`xlvii`	`does anyone know where i could get an experience bar similar to the one in this screenshot (http://www.home.no/p3lim/old.jpg)?`
`00:30.42`	`Bejitt`	`hmmm committing to svn keeps failing for me`
`00:30.47`	`Dashkal`	`hmm, I've seen that before... cogitates`
`00:31.05`	`Antiarc`	`PTRs are up`
`00:31.15`	`break19`	`we're not a massively massive raid guild.. we KNOW who we run with... communication is our big thing. we talk so much on vent it makes CB chatter, at a traffic accident, seem nonexistant`
`00:32.50`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61347 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Bugfix line 385`
`00:32.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`we dont waste time with battle reses though, raid leader knows exactly whos battle res is on cooldown and whos isnt so it just a simple 'name battleres name'`
`00:33.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`no 'whos battleres is up?' or 'name is your battleres up?' first`
`00:33.24`	`keiss`	`ask before pull ftw :)`
`00:33.34`	`CIA-12`	`03bejitt * r61348 10Spyglass/core.lua:`
`00:33.34`	`CIA-12`	`Spyglass:`
`00:33.34`	`CIA-12`	`- Reverted back to not using ItemBonusLib:GetUnitEquipment as it still messes with InspectFrame when the unit is not player or target`
`00:33.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`waste of time`
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`00:34.03`	`break19`	`or, here's an idea. dont die during a boss fight. lol`
`00:34.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`00:34.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`you must raid kara or something`
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`00:34.46`	`keiss`	`the point is you dont need ora2 for it, if the RL can remember the CDs there no difference ...`
`00:34.47`	Funkeh`	`raiding is for noobs!`
`00:34.53`	`break19`	`they do.. i havent gotten there yet.. cant pick a char long enough to get em keyed. heh`
`00:35.14`	`Hjalte`	`According to worldofraids Blizard removed some things in the new patch notes. I wonder why they did that.`
`00:35.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`we do boss fights that its impossible for nobody to die`
`00:35.50`	`break19`	`l2stamina?`
`00:35.54`	`break19`	`heh`
`00:35.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`...`
`00:35.55`	`keiss`	`nobody dieing at gorefiend would be an imba feat`
`00:36.19`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61349 10Routes/ (Locales/Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Fix error on line 900 by removing invalid zones. Localize some strings.`
`00:36.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah or nobody dying at Azgalor would also be perty imba`
`00:37.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`aaaaaaaand WoW crashed again`
`00:37.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Exception Processing Message`
`00:37.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`o_O`
`00:37.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and that error message was from windows`
`00:37.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`o_O`
`00:37.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`bloodboil would be doable but still perty damn hard`
`00:37.50`	`break19`	`Arrowmaster: at least you're taking it in stride.. good.. now, honestly, I would prefer they -did- use ora or ctra.. my war is destined to be OT, and we have a pally MT.. and 2 ms wars, and a couple of beartank OTs.. my mt frame shows all the wars, even tho I'm the only one tanking in the frame.. lol`
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`00:42.30`	`break19`	`now, when I play my hunter, i could care less about ora, or even raidframes at all.. all I care about is who do I kill.. heh`
`00:42.30`	`Trell_`	`quick question for you wow buffs.`
`00:42.35`	`Trell_`	`the romantic picnic basket`
`00:42.40`	`Trell_`	`how much should I ask for it`
`00:42.53`	`break19`	`hey hey boo boo! wanna go get some pickanick bas-kets?`
`00:42.58`	`Wobin_`	`a kiss on the cheek!`
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`00:43.03`	`Trell_`	`seriously >_<`
`00:43.13`	`Wobin_`	`seriously?`
`00:43.15`	`Trell_`	`I've got no idea whatsoever`
`00:43.16`	`Wobin_`	`Fat bags of cash`
`00:43.26`	`Trell_`	`are we talking hundreds, or sub hundred`
`00:43.27`	`Wobin_`	`It depends on how much everyone else is selling it`
`00:43.28`	`break19`	`seriously.. does this look like #ahprices ?`
`00:43.36`	`Trell_`	`no, it looks like #wowace`
`00:43.41`	`Trell_`	`but I know you're all so friendly`
`00:43.43`	`Trell_`	`and happy to help.`
`00:43.45`	`Wobin_`	`I can see how you'd make the mistake =P`
`00:43.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`i payed 100g for one just for the hell of it, but then i got one later on`
`00:43.47`	`break19`	`heh`
`00:43.51`	`Wobin_`	`The letters are like right next to each other`
`00:43.55`	`break19`	`www.wowhead.com`
`00:43.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`but i have gold to spend`
`00:44.01`	`Wobin_`	`Typically, in a post BC world`
`00:44.03`	`Trell_`	`break19 - no price on there.`
`00:44.05`	`Wobin_`	`anything +100g is good`
`00:44.10`	`Wobin_`	`cause people can afford it`
`00:44.15`	`break19`	`tried wowecon.com ?`
`00:44.20`	`Wobin_`	`but since it isn't actually a rare drop`
`00:44.26`	`Wobin_`	`and everyone has a chance of getting it`
`00:44.35`	`Wobin_`	`you might not have any luck at all`
`00:44.36`	`Trell_`	`mmm its technically bop`
`00:44.42`	xyu`	`Anyone elses Grid keep showing pets, even though I do not enable pets in the layout?`
`00:44.49`	`Wobin_`	`You just pass around the container it's in`
`00:45.02`	`Trell_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:45.05`	`Trell_`	`just got 50g for the pet`
`00:45.16`	`Trell_`	`got the pet on one alt, and the basket straight away on the second`
`00:45.20`	`break19`	`I need a druid.. come hibernate my kid so I can actually play wow tonight.`
`00:45.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`i got the pet last year, got the dress yesterday on my bank alt`
`00:46.02`	`Trell_`	`lol, 10-15g it's worth according to the tards in my trade channel.`
`00:46.12`	`Trell_`	`cries`
`00:46.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`well a lot of people have them`
`00:47.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have 2, and 2 of my guildies have 2 each`
`00:47.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`probably more guildies too`
`00:47.17`	`Trell_`	`bah, just sent it to my main, he can enjoy it.`
`00:47.27`	`Wobin_`	`Shame on you`
`00:47.31`	`break19`	`if its any consolation.. I had a level 19 cloth twink piece.. people on my trade were sayin 15-20, but wowhead showed 120g.. so.. I listed it for 120g.. it sold by morning.`
`00:47.35`	`Wobin_`	`Trying to commercialise Valentines day =(`
`00:47.50`	`Trell_`	`i'd put it on the AH if I could`
`00:48.04`	`Trell_`	`Wobin_ - I don't think commercialiastion needs any help on that score`
`00:48.06`	`Trell_`	`^^`
`00:48.56`	`Stanzilla`	`hm nice`
`00:49.02`	`Stanzilla`	`PTR EU has conquered the first land`
`00:49.20`	`Stanzilla`	`already at 3% of the next step`
`00:49.42`	`keiss`	`Stanzilla: what changes on the island ?`
`00:50.36`	`Dashkal`	`Whoa... 3 days my foot. Apparently the PTR queue is same day`
`00:52.02`	`Stanzilla`	`keiss: new buildings`
`00:52.16`	`Stanzilla`	`they conquer more land`
`00:52.30`	`keiss`	`no new NPCs ?`
`00:52.46`	`Stanzilla`	`yeah some new NPCs`
`00:52.53`	`Stanzilla`	`some general vendors`
`00:53.00`	`Stanzilla`	`and defenders for the new buildings`
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`01:03.31`	`sylvanaar`	`so the wim author has emailed me and said he put the changes i made in Prat_WIM into WIM. Now what should I do?`
`01:03.54`	`Stanzilla`	`delete Prat_WIM?`
`01:04.22`	`Wobin_`	`Hope for world peace?`
`01:04.29`	`sylvanaar`	`seriously`
`01:04.44`	`sylvanaar`	`eat pie?`
`01:04.50`	`Wobin_`	`That's always an option`
`01:04.58`	`sylvanaar`	`it is - in fact I just might have some`
`01:05.05`	`Wobin_`	`Bonus!`
`01:05.52`	`sylvanaar`	`nope - i didnt - just some trail mix`
`01:06.23`	`Thorgard`	`Fail.`
`01:06.31`	`Yssaril`	`what exactly did Prat_wim do?`
`01:06.46`	`sylvanaar`	`use Prats text rendering instead of wim's`
`01:07.01`	`Yssaril`	`ah`
`01:07.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm anybody know how much agility a 70 hunter needs to gain 0.09 crit?`
`01:07.19`	`sylvanaar`	`i did the same thing with dreamchat at one point`
`01:07.21`	`Yssaril`	`so now wim was changed to use prats if its available?`
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`01:08.55`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, thats what the author said in his email - mind you i gave him all my changes 4 months ago and he blew me off kinda until i released Prat_WIM`
`01:09.44`	`Thorgard`	`Arrowmaster, 2 agility?`
`01:09.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats it?`
`01:09.59`	`Thorgard`	`Err..`
`01:10.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`sigh`
`01:10.04`	`Thorgard`	`No. ;P`
`01:10.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`more or less?`
`01:10.25`	`sylvanaar`	`I guess we'll see, he said he was going to release it next week or something`
`01:10.26`	`Thorgard`	`1 Agility = 0.552 Critical Strike Rating`
`01:10.39`	`Thorgard`	`22.08 Critical Strike Rating = +1% Critical Hit`
`01:11.20`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61350 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Rogue.lua: Threat-2.0: Rogue module added. Compiles, not fully tested though.`
`01:11.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`one of our hunters put a 5agi/7stm gem in an item with 1 blue socket to get a 2 crit rating socket bonus`
`01:12.36`	`NeoTron`	`sweet!`
`01:12.39`	`CIA-12`	`03starinnia * r61351 10MobileVault/ (Core.lua Frames.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): MobileVault: You can now view the images of other saved guilds' vaults (click the "Guilds" button to see the list of possibilities)`
`01:13.48`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: don't underestimate the value of stamina too`
`01:13.52`	`NeoTron`	`I mean it does have SOME value`
`01:14.13`	`break19`	`sylvanaar: tell him to piss off, he had the chance 4mo ago, and if he changes his to work with prat, change prat to break it. :p`
`01:14.28`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`01:14.29`	`keiss`	`haha`
`01:14.35`	`break19`	`.. its what I'd do. :)`
`01:14.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah but there were warriors and feral druids wanting the 5agi/7stm gems`
`01:15.03`	`break19`	`HUNTER GEM@!#`
`01:15.20`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: ... so?`
`01:15.23`	`NeoTron`	`give them gems too?`
`01:15.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`those are them gems we have the least of`
`01:16.01`	`Zariel`	`Hm what gems for PVP hunter`
`01:16.08`	`Zariel`	`mix of 12 stam and 8 agil?`
`01:17.58`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, im not really sure how to handle it, its his mod, but part of me likes being able to make quick modifications to it`
`01:18.07`	`Stanzilla`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shandris&n=Sulgyf < WTF! GM?`
`01:18.26`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: if the adon auth actively accept patches, forking is bad`
`01:19.11`	`sylvanaar`	`this is a post fork patch - im not sure what the rules are there`
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`01:19.35`	`Thorgard`	`Arrowmaster, so, yeah, to answer your question. 3.6 agility.`
`01:20.14`	`NeoTron`	`software rules: 1: Forking is bad. 2: See #1.`
`01:20.16`	`sylvanaar`	`http://www.wimaddon.com/forums/index.php/topic,189.0.html`
`01:20.26`	`keiss`	`Stanzilla: or a armory bug :)`
`01:20.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`so a 10agi gem would have been better for dps than a 5agi/7stm gem that gives a 2crit rating socket bonus`
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`01:21.29`	`Stanzilla`	`keiss: maybe..`
`01:21.32`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: yes`
`01:21.58`	`NeoTron`	`I don't think there's any case where using a XXX/Stam gem + bonus is worth more than using a pure gem`
`01:22.10`	`NeoTron`	`that said, he might need it for a metagem too`
`01:22.17`	`NeoTron`	`for example I need 2 blue gems on my gear`
`01:22.33`	`Thorgard`	`Arrowmaster, oh yes.`
`01:23.09`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61352 10EnvenomX/ (EnvenomX.toc embeds.xml):`
`01:23.09`	`CIA-12`	`EnvenomX:`
`01:23.09`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:23.09`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:23.57`	`Camci`	`if you as a tank get the needed defence for crit immunity, are you safe from crits 100 %?`
`01:23.58`	`NeoTron`	`sylvanaar: so have you tried... talking to him?`
`01:24.02`	`Camci`	`unless its from behind ofc`
`01:24.10`	`NeoTron`	`you know, to see if for future changes he'd be a bit faster than 3 months?`
`01:24.23`	`break19`	`NeoTron: newsflash.. he gave the guy the code 4mo ago.. he's just now starting to use it.. heh`
`01:24.33`	`break19`	`he only started using it because someone else did..`
`01:24.35`	`NeoTron`	`break19: I am aware`
`01:24.47`	`sylvanaar`	`you see how its sort of a grey area`
`01:24.48`	`NeoTron`	`as I said, talk to him again and see what a future arrangement can be like`
`01:24.55`	`break19`	`he had his "thunder taken" so to speak..`
`01:25.10`	`NeoTron`	`:se noai`
`01:25.10`	`NeoTron`	`a(0xx(B:se ai`
`01:25.17`	`sylvanaar`	`lol`
`01:25.21`	`sylvanaar`	`whats that`
`01:25.24`	`sylvanaar`	`your cat?`
`01:27.39`	`Thorgard`	`Either that or a seizure. :o`
`01:27.44`	`sylvanaar`	`rofl`
`01:28.16`	`break19`	`i've had one of those.. not fun.. felt like my entire body was having a muscle cramp..`
`01:29.08`	`break19`	`couldnt even speak.. i tried to say "help" to my wife.. it came out as .. just some garbled crap...`
`01:29.21`	`sylvanaar`	`man...sounds awful`
`01:29.53`	`break19`	`it was.. luckily, I have only had the one.. no medication.. so its likely it was just stress-related.`
`01:30.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`looks more like some commands that ended up in the wrong window...`
`01:30.09`	`sylvanaar`	`that reminds me - its xanax time...im way to wound up, i'll never get to bed.`
`01:30.30`	`Thorgard`	`Gnarfoz, aye, vi-styleee.`
`01:30.39`	`break19`	`yea. go without sleep long enough.. your body will reward ya like mine did..`
`01:31.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`don't remind me :\`
`01:31.23`	`sylvanaar`	`heh, its possible to have them from dehydration + stress`
`01:31.56`	`break19`	`yeppers syl`
`01:32.05`	`sylvanaar`	`if you dont sleep you dont make ADH which dehydrates you`
`01:33.09`	`break19`	`heh`
`01:33.22`	`break19`	`dont worry wobin.. you'll get plenty of warnings first..`
`01:33.27`	`xlvii`	`does anyone know of any beginner tutorials for learning lua (wow related, obviously)? all the ones i seem to find are for incredibly old patches (1.12 and before)`
`01:33.32`	`sylvanaar`	`rofl`
`01:33.54`	`Wobin`	`xlvii: Programming World of Warcraft!`
`01:34.03`	`break19`	`nearly continuous cramps in your legs and feet every time ya try and relax the muscles there... means its time to take a nice hot bath, then crash out`
`01:34.31`	`Wobin`	`http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203039257&sr=8-1`
`01:35.03`	`Wobin`	`written by Clad, Cogster and Kael =)`
`01:35.16`	`xlvii`	`i would purchase it, but.. my car has been having problems (bottom end is seriously screwed) and i don't have any money to spend.`
`01:35.23`	`xlvii`	`and i want to get started now too!`
`01:35.43`	`Wobin`	`The problem is, there aren't many good beginner lua tutorials =\`
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`01:35.53`	`NeoTron`	`in 2.4 you can now buy Nether Vortex with 15 badges`
`01:35.54`	`Kytrarewn`	`Is Sylvanaar here?`
`01:36.02`	`Wobin`	`NeoTron: Oh My god`
`01:36.05`	`Wobin`	`I LOVE YOU`
`01:36.06`	`sylvanaar`	`Sylvanaar is in outlands`
`01:36.08`	`Trell_`	`zomg`
`01:36.08`	`Wobin`	`LOVE LOVE LOVE`
`01:36.21`	`Kytrarewn`	`Sylvanaar: What do I have to do to make GEM Compatibility mode work?`
`01:36.27`	`Kytrarewn`	`in PRAT`
`01:36.34`	`sylvanaar`	`Kytrarewn i have no clue`
`01:36.40`	`Wobin`	`Prat isn't an acronym =)`
`01:36.42`	`Kytrarewn`	`Antiarc told me you would know`
`01:36.52`	`Antiar1`	`I just told you to ask him!`
`01:36.56`	`Antiar1`	`I didn't promise he'd know >_>`
`01:37.03`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ`
`01:37.19`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`NeoTron: oh god, that's hot.`
`01:37.30`	`Antiarc`	`What?`
`01:37.32`	`Dashkal`	`NeoTron: source?`
`01:37.34`	`Antiarc`	`Did I miss something?`
`01:37.40`	`Antiarc`	`Ooh. Right.`
`01:37.45`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`"<NeoTron> in 2.4 you can now buy Nether Vortex with 15 badges"`
`01:37.47`	`sylvanaar`	`has GEM changed? did you enable the option in prat?`
`01:37.47`	`Wobin`	`oh thank god =P`
`01:37.56`	`Kytrarewn`	`gem changed the other day`
`01:37.58`	`Wobin`	`I totally did not want to scrape SSC raids`
`01:37.59`	`Kytrarewn`	`option is grayed out`
`01:38.09`	`sylvanaar`	`well there you go`
`01:38.19`	`Kytrarewn`	`fiks it`
`01:38.19`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`Dashkal: mmo-champion.com has a screeny`
`01:38.24`	`sylvanaar`	`haha`
`01:38.32`	`Kytrarewn`	`at some point at your convenience if you'd be so kind?`
`01:38.35`	`Dashkal`	`hotness`
`01:39.01`	`sylvanaar`	`fix what? I dont even know what the problem is`
`01:39.01`	`break19`	`Kytrarewn: no you`
`01:39.05`	`break19`	`heh`
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`01:39.43`	`break19`	`sounds like the author of GEM decided to do to prat, what I suggested prat do to wim. heh`
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`01:41.05`	`sylvanaar`	`where is that option anyways - chatlink?`
`01:41.06`	`break19`	`I'm too scared to look at GEM's code to try and help fix prat.... just the thought of it makes me want to curl into a little ball and hide behind the couch sucking my thumb and begging for my mommy.`
`01:41.18`	`Kytrarewn`	`channel links, yah`
`01:41.26`	`Kytrarewn`	`wim?`
`01:41.37`	`break19`	`wam?`
`01:41.49`	`Kytrarewn`	`what's wam?`
`01:42.12`	`break19`	`the sound thats made when I hit my head into the wall, while thinking of GEM's code..`
`01:42.34`	`NeoTron`	`Dashkal: mmo-champion`
`01:43.06`	`break19`	`rofl. my wife just a blonde moment on her druid`
`01:43.21`	`Wobin`	`"Pink paw me?"`
`01:43.34`	`break19`	`she decided to go prowl thru UC (shes a nelf).. forgot to unsummon her worg pup minipet.`
`01:44.05`	`break19`	`woops, how'd they find me so fast? oh.. crap.. splat`
`01:44.59`	`Wobin`	`PUPPY!`
`01:45.04`	`Antiarc`	`Resilience now affects mana burn/drains on the PTR`
`01:45.07`	`Wobin`	`WHERE ARE YOU GOING PUPPY?`
`01:45.10`	`Antiarc`	`Same conversion rate as -crit damage`
`01:45.28`	`Dashkal`	`NeoTron: does a little jig`
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`01:45.40`	`Antiarc`	`"Reduces the effect of mana-drains and the damage of critical strikes by xx.xx%"`
`01:45.52`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: I can see nerfing mana burn.. but drain mana is so much crap already`
`01:45.55`	`Dashkal`	`yay for ahem "Kara scrubs" being allowed into the party, even if everybody has gone home :p`
`01:46.27`	`sylvanaar`	`Kytrarewn what are you talking about the option is greyed out? is that module enabled?`
`01:46.35`	`NeoTron`	`first belt that is truly better than Belt of Blasting is the new T6 belts`
`01:46.52`	`Kytrarewn`	`the option is grayed out`
`01:46.57`	`elusif`	`is there a music player mod for wow because tbh every time i alt tab and back from windows it takes about 60 seconds and i can't control the volume etc... also and i know this might sound crazy but i'm just gonna throw this one out there... eve online has a web browser (with many bugs), isn't there anything similar for wow.. and yes i know it's not an operating system :D`
`01:46.59`	`Kytrarewn`	`not sure if module enabled, lemme check addon loader`
`01:47.04`	`Kytrarewn`	`there used to be elusif`
`01:47.06`	`Kytrarewn`	`not any more`
`01:47.16`	`elusif`	`:(`
`01:47.34`	`elusif`	`nps bro ty`
`01:47.36`	`Wobin`	`elusif: no`
`01:47.54`	`keiss`	`elusif: use maximized windows mode ? (might reduce the alt-tab time maybe)`
`01:48.02`	`elusif`	`never heard of it`
`01:48.05`	`elusif`	`oh`
`01:48.06`	`Kytrarewn`	`all models enabled`
`01:48.14`	`elusif`	`it's when it runs in a window?`
`01:48.14`	`Kytrarewn`	`err modules`
`01:48.14`	`elusif`	`that looks very ugly?`
`01:48.27`	`keiss`	`video options -> Windowd mode + Maximized`
`01:48.46`	`sylvanaar`	`Kytrarewn there is no reason for it to be greyed out`
`01:48.51`	`keiss`	`elusif: looks the same like non-windowed if u make it maximized`
`01:49.06`	`Kytrarewn`	`lemme try a console reloadui`
`01:49.15`	`elusif`	`also my main is level 44 and i already have the ashenvale turbolg transform item and i'm going to quest for noggenfodder now... i have full tuxedo and christmas costumes... is there any other novelty transformations/items for a male? (no dressed :P )`
`01:49.26`	`elusif`	`ty keiss`
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`01:49.31`	`elusif`	`will i need to restart wow?`
`01:49.41`	`elusif`	`oh it's from within wow...`
`01:49.42`	`elusif`	`kk`
`01:49.43`	`sylvanaar`	`Kytrarewn does it hve a checkmark by the word "Toggle"`
`01:49.44`	`elusif`	`ty`
`01:49.45`	`keiss`	`i think not`
`01:50.14`	`elusif`	`!`
`01:50.15`	`elusif`	`:D`
`01:50.21`	`elusif`	`by any chance are there any pvp rogues here?`
`01:50.31`	`sylvanaar`	`is there another type?`
`01:50.31`	`buu`	`No.`
`01:50.32`	`elusif`	`i have a question on certain attacks vs certain attacks`
`01:50.34`	`buu`	`We shot them all.`
`01:50.36`	`elusif`	`lol`
`01:50.39`	`elusif`	`i hate pve :P`
`01:50.40`	`elusif`	`ok`
`01:50.41`	`buu`	`FEAD THEM TO THE DOGS.`
`01:50.45`	`elusif`	`i used to always open with ambush`
`01:50.52`	`elusif`	`but now i've started using cheapshot`
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`01:51.03`	`elusif`	`because i think i can do more damage in the 4 seconds with sinister strike`
`01:51.04`	`sylvanaar`	`I press all the buttons at once`
`01:51.05`	`durcyn`	`oh, you're one of those stunlock jerks.`
`01:51.07`	`elusif`	`lol`
`01:51.08`	`durcyn`	`go die.`
`01:51.11`	`elusif`	`lawl`
`01:51.16`	`elusif`	`at level 44`
`01:51.22`	`Yssaril`	`ckknight: love the minimap addon but is there anyway to lock it into place?`
`01:51.22`	`elusif`	`should i always open with cheapshot`
`01:51.39`	`elusif`	`and therefore is ambush and every other stealth/stun attack, apart from kidney shot redundant?`
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`01:52.15`	`elusif`	`brb`
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`01:52.51`	`Yssaril`	`ckknight_: love the minimap addon but is there anyway to lock it into place?`
`01:53.13`	`Stanzilla`	`it's on jira already`
`01:53.20`	`Stanzilla`	`so he will fix that later on :P`
`01:53.20`	`keiss`	`Yssaril: good point :)`
`01:53.39`	`Yssaril`	`wtb fix now though :P`
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`02:04.01`	`chiperMibbit`	`hmm`
`02:04.06`	`chiper`	`oh that is slick`
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`02:04.22`	`sylvanaar`	`nn`
`02:05.22`	`chiperMibbit`	`ajax based IRC client. this is pretty cool`
`02:06.21`	`Kytrarewn`	`anyone pro enough modder to make my enh shaman smart?`
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`02:07.41`	`ckknight`	`Yssaril: wtb monies`
`02:07.43`	`ckknight`	`well, wts code for monies`
`02:08.02`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61353 10GatherMate_Sharing/ (GatherMate_Sharing.lua Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-enUS.lua): GatherMate_Sharing: Revert half of kagaro's failed merge from branch. And updated to work with receiving Treasure data.`
`02:08.31`	`chiper`	`ckknight: me too`
`02:09.04`	`chiper`	`sadly, I keep learning languages that people dont want to pay you to work in`
`02:09.52`	`Yssaril`	`ckknight would give ya if i had any :P`
`02:10.00`	`Thorgard`	`chiper, seriously, though, common sense would be enough to tip you off that brainfuck might not be the best language to make money on.`
`02:10.13`	`chiper`	`I actually avoided brainfuck`
`02:10.20`	`HunterZ0`	`ck, how much do you charge per Jira issue? :p`
`02:10.43`	`chiper`	`assembly was a pain enough, brainfuck makes it even MORE basic`
`02:12.02`	`chiper`	`I mean, sheesh, talk about Reduced Instruction set`
`02:12.27`	`Thorgard`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/nethervortexgeras.jpg is hot`
`02:12.57`	`Xinhuan`	`casuals...`
`02:13.16`	`Xinhuan`	`in 5 months, we'll see Heart of Darknesses available for 20 badges`
`02:13.25`	`Bibi`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/jeweltrinket.jpg is hotter.`
`02:13.38`	Funkeh`	`Xinhuan, qq :P`
`02:14.02`	`HunterZ0`	`stupid WhoLib keeps puking at me whenever I zone: WhoLib-1.0-53004 (WhoLib):419: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)`
`02:14.04`	`chiper`	`what is nether vortex for?`
`02:14.18`	`keiss`	`TK/SSC crafted items`
`02:14.24`	`Xinhuan`	`used to craft various tk/ssc recipes`
`02:14.34`	`Xinhuan`	`and tier 2 BS weapons`
`02:14.34`	`chiper`	`Xinhuan: think of it as less "Casual" and more "Hard core sleeper"`
`02:14.53`	`Xinhuan`	`they mean the same thing in my vocabulary chiper`
`02:16.00`	`Xinhuan`	`so i have an issue`
`02:16.07`	`chiper`	`I mean, I'm sure I could be doing Hyjal and BT all the time too if I didn't mind being a zombie`
`02:16.17`	`Xinhuan`	`Astrolabe isn't on wowace svn`
`02:16.27`	`Xinhuan`	`so if i external it`
`02:16.34`	`Xinhuan`	`that's fine`
`02:16.45`	`Xinhuan`	`but if WAU users use no-ext, that's not fine.`
`02:17.07`	`Xinhuan`	`solution?`
`02:17.11`	`Thorgard`	`Cake.`
`02:17.19`	`Wobin`	`That's a lie`
`02:17.28`	`Thorgard`	`s'true. :(`
`02:17.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`Xinhuan: if its not on wowace then no-ext still includes it afaik`
`02:17.42`	`Xinhuan`	`if that is the case, then i don't have to worry`
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`02:18.42`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61354 10FuBar_HealBotFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_HealBotFu: - Initial import`
`02:18.47`	`HunterZ0`	`flighthud uses astrolabe that way i think`
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`02:22.41`	`Xinhuan`	`why would flighthud need astrolabe? o_O`
`02:22.52`	`Xinhuan`	`it only needs facing and camera pitch`
`02:24.11`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61355 10FuBar_HealBotFu/ (. libs/): FuBar_HealBotFu: - Set externals`
`02:25.35`	`HunterZ0`	`ooh sorry, meant Prat_WIM`
`02:25.45`	`HunterZ0`	`couldn't remember which addon i installed this week had it`
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`02:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`03chiper * r61356 10Prat_Signon/ (. Prat_Signon.lua Prat_Signon.toc):`
`02:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`Prat_Signon: initial commit`
`02:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`- Prat Module to add extra information to guild and friend signon/signoff messages such as level, class, zone and guild rank.`
`02:29.46`	`chiper`	`wow, that was quick`
`02:31.38`	`CIA-12`	`03archarodim * r61357 10Decursive/ (Decursive.lua Todo.txt):`
`02:31.38`	`CIA-12`	`Decursive:`
`02:31.38`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated Todo.txt with a new very interesting feature to add :)`
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`02:34.58`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61358 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua):`
`02:34.58`	`CIA-12`	`BossTalk:`
`02:34.58`	`CIA-12`	`- New quotations (734 in database now)`
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`02:39.18`	`[Endeavour]`	`.`
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`02:40.09`	`HunterZ0`	`speaking of flighthud, anyone know where i might be able to contact the author? the latest version is kind of messed up`
`02:40.45`	`kadrahil`	`hm`
`02:40.53`	`kadrahil`	`is there an addon that reminds you of your shout timers`
`02:41.14`	`kadrahil`	`and maybe sounds an alarm and tells you "shout you nub"`
`02:41.27`	`chiper`	`hunter: I noticed that too, it's not letting clicks through`
`02:41.39`	`HunterZ0`	`chiper: exactly`
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`02:41.44`	`HunterZ0`	`chiper: even when hidden :(`
`02:41.53`	`HunterZ0`	`kadrahil: you can probably configure parrot to do that`
`02:42.02`	`kadrahil`	`HunterZ0: i'll look at it`
`02:42.51`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61359 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-2.0: Add shaman module.`
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`02:43.07`	`HunterZ0`	`kadrahil: spellreminder might be able to do it too`
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`02:45.34`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61360 10BigWigs/ (Prototype.lua Sunwell/Brutallus.lua Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: First stab at some sort of API for the new combat log, just to get some of the code away from the boss module code.`
`02:47.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyone bored enough to unethically do a change to pallypower disabling the retarded "smart" buff code for single/custom blessings? see my post here: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3738/#comment_330534`
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`02:51.06`	`vithos`	`sag_ich_nicht: that link doesn't take you to the page your comment is on`
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`02:52.47`	`vithos`	`oh yes it does, just doesn't scroll to it`
`02:52.49`	`vithos`	`nm.`
`02:59.25`	`[Endeavour]`	`how can i check if a table field exists?`
`03:00.02`	`nymbia`	`if t[k] then`
`03:00.10`	`[Endeavour]`	`thanks!`
`03:00.11`	`nymbia`	`unless it's false`
`03:00.27`	`nymbia`	`then use if type(t[k]) then`
`03:00.52`	`[Endeavour]`	`i'll try that out, thanks :)`
`03:00.59`	`Hobby`	`is there a problem with teh latest threat 1.0?`
`03:02.28`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61361 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: When editing taboos, the red/green node colors will now stay until the right click menu is closed.`
`03:03.05`	`Hobby`	`After an update about a half hour ago I'm seeing wildly inaccurate threat...mine matches the raid but everyone elses is reported much higher than actual`
`03:03.15`	`Xinhuan`	`" The character copy queue is currently full. "`
`03:03.16`	`Xinhuan`	`zzzzzz`
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`03:06.16`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61362 10BigWigs/ (Prototype.lua Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: Prototype: New boss module API, :Throttle(seconds, token1, token2, ...).`
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`03:10.08`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61363 10YellCollect/ (YellCollect.lua YellCollect.toc):`
`03:10.09`	`CIA-12`	`YellCollect:`
`03:10.09`	`CIA-12`	`- fixed that nil error (thanks, nymbia!)`
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`03:11.46`	`kebinusan`	`wow gay, resilience affects mana drains`
`03:11.59`	`Xinhuan`	`welcome to wow!`
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`03:15.07`	`kebinusan`	`world of meleecraft`
`03:15.12`	`kebinusan`	`sogay on that change btw`
`03:15.21`	`kebinusan`	`just makes warrior/druid even stronger`
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`03:17.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`kebinusan: is that for 2.4?`
`03:18.31`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61364 10MobileVault/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`03:18.31`	`CIA-12`	`MobileVault:`
`03:18.31`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
`03:18.33`	`dylanm`	`Arrowmaster: Yeah http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/residrain2.jpg`
`03:19.14`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61365 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added Sathrovarr the Corruptor.`
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`03:21.14`	`kebinusan`	`Arrowmaster: yeah for 2.4`
`03:21.53`	`kebinusan`	`something on the svn seems to be tainting the raid frame again`
`03:21.57`	`kebinusan`	`not sure what yet tho`
`03:22.03`	`vhaarr`	`probably ClearFont2`
`03:22.18`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61366 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Kalecgos: Enable on Sathrovarr the Corruptor as well.`
`03:25.11`	`CIA-12`	`03dfscott * r61367 10AzuarcLevelGuide/AzuarcLevelGuide.lua:`
`03:25.11`	`CIA-12`	`AzuarcLevelGuide:`
`03:25.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Fix bug in first page/last page on tinypad display`
`03:25.17`	`kebinusan`	`yeah looks like it could be clearfont2`
`03:26.33`	`CIA-12`	`03chiper * r61368 10Prat_Signon/Prat_Signon.lua:`
`03:26.34`	`CIA-12`	`Prat_Signon:`
`03:26.34`	`CIA-12`	`- Added configuration fields for changing the format strings`
`03:26.34`	`CIA-12`	`- Cleaned up some code, removed unnecessary comments`
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`03:29.42`	`break19`	`chiper: prat_signon? please elaborate.. :)`
`03:29.51`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61369 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Brutallus: Bugfix.`
`03:31.07`	`ulic`	`break19: from an initial commit, I think he said, more detailed announce of friend/guilds signon/offs`
`03:31.26`	`ulic`	`like, level, zone, stuff like that.`
`03:31.28`	`chiper`	`hang on, phone`
`03:32.06`	`chiper`	`what he said`
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`03:39.45`	`break19`	`hm... i need help here... I wrote a fubar plugin to control HealBot.. and it's SV file is like, 30megs, upon opening, it appears to be saving data for every ace profile...`
`03:39.58`	`break19`	`for every ace addon I have..`
`03:40.02`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61370 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): WoWEquip: - Add Glove Reinforcements. Hide SPELLCRITDMG.`
`03:40.14`	`Xinhuan`	`break19, it means you used the same Savedvariable name as your addon.`
`03:40.23`	`Xinhuan`	`and 30 mb is pretty low`
`03:40.28`	`Xinhuan`	`you haven't seen the 150 mb ones`
`03:40.48`	`break19`	`Xinhuan: I've had reports of others with 1.5g ones...`
`03:41.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`what saved var did you use?`
`03:41.04`	`Xinhuan`	`so go change your SV name ;p`
`03:41.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`exact name`
`03:42.17`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61371 10FuBar_HealBotFu/FuBar_HealBotFu.lua: FuBar_HealBotFu: - Put my website url in the license header instead of my email address`
`03:42.29`	`break19`	`## SavedVariables: HBFu`
`03:42.37`	`break19`	`but the addon is called Fubar_HBFu.. not the same...`
`03:42.56`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61372 10ChatStamp/ChatStamp.lua: ChatStamp: - Put my website url in the license header instead of my email address`
`03:43.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`change it to HBFuDB or something`
`03:43.30`	`break19`	`however... HBFu = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0", "AceHook-2.1")`
`03:43.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`because something is using HBFu`
`03:43.34`	`break19`	`is that the problem? ok then`
`03:43.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`03:43.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`you are saving your addon to the saved vars`
`03:43.59`	`Xinhuan`	`you are saving every table, function and subobject ;p`
`03:44.08`	`Xinhuan`	`because that is what HBFu is`
`03:44.15`	`break19`	`HBFu:RegisterDB("HBFuDB"), and ## SavedVariables: HBFuDB wont do the same thing?`
`03:44.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`03:44.38`	`break19`	`ah kk.\`
`03:45.18`	`chexsum`	`its wow that saves the data and your addon is the data`
`03:45.23`	`break19`	`I could also safely use FuBar_HBFu as the sv? (would also be more in line with how it "should" be right?)`
`03:46.01`	`chexsum`	`just add DB like everyone else`
`03:46.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`03:46.14`	`Xinhuan`	`umm, as long as the variable you are saving, isn't your addon's object`
`03:46.19`	`Xinhuan`	`nobody will care what it is`
`03:46.22`	`break19`	`kk`
`03:46.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`or any other addon object`
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`03:46.49`	`CIA-12`	`03quezacolt * r61373 10Checklist2/ (Applet.xml Checklist2.toc Core.lua DB.lua Sayings.lua):`
`03:46.49`	`CIA-12`	`Checklist2:`
`03:46.49`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed a nil error when renaming the list currently being viewed, then attempting to interact with it`
`03:46.49`	`CIA-12`	`- Removed certain debug code`
`03:46.49`	`CIA-12`	`- Added the ability to create an empty list`
`03:46.51`	`break19`	`thanks guys.. one of these days I'll get it.. anyone got a 2x4 for my head? heh`
`03:46.51`	`CIA-12`	`- Metadata changes in preparation for wiki page`
`03:48.01`	`chexsum`	`purl has a plank`
`03:49.06`	`chexsum`	`mana burn being afected by resilience is a lot better than what the noobs want - cooldown`
`03:49.40`	`chiper`	`ckknight: why is Location text disabled in Chinchilla?`
`03:49.40`	`chiper`	`oh, nm, i see`
`03:49.40`	`break19`	`~plank`
`03:49.41`	`break19`	`~plank break19`
`03:49.41`	`purl`	`break19 is blindfolded and pushed at sword-point to walk the plank and plunge into the depths`
`03:49.50`	`break19`	`that'll work`
`03:49.50`	`break19`	`heh`
`03:50.16`	`chexsum`	`~2x4 break19`
`03:50.22`	`chexsum`	`:\`
`03:51.48`	`Shirik`	`~2by4 break19`
`03:51.55`	`Shirik`	`meh`
`03:52.02`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61374 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Brutallus: various cleanups / api changes`
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`03:52.55`	`chiper`	`ckknight: the rock button seems to be following an upside-down edge path`
`03:53.15`	`chiper`	`other buttons are dragging right tho`
`03:54.11`	`elusif`	`what does it mean if wowhead says the reaction from a lw supllier is green H and red A`
`03:54.16`	`elusif`	`hostile to alliance?`
`03:54.31`	`elusif`	`lw trainer even`
`03:54.42`	Funkeh`	`probably`
`03:54.54`	`elusif`	`but some are green alliance and green horde`
`03:54.58`	`elusif`	`and others are just H`
`03:55.22`	`elusif`	`if the trainer is hostile to alliance how is that different from a regular trainer in which case why not just put green H?`
`03:55.45`	`Shirik`	`if one is missing, then wowhead doesn't know`
`03:55.58`	`elusif`	`k ty`
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`03:56.06`	`elusif`	`fuckit it's 4am here in ireland`
`03:56.06`	`Shirik`	`not many people go into cities to target the LW trainer of another faction :)`
`03:56.31`	`elusif`	`they're after my lucky charms so i'm going to make a bacon and egg sandwhich and goto bed watching lost :D`
`03:56.54`	`elusif`	`ty for info`
`03:56.56`	`elusif`	`- afk`
`03:56.56`	`chexsum`	`woohoo click casting works on ptr`
`03:57.10`	`chexsum`	`now i can actually heal an instance lol`
`03:57.17`	Funkeh`	`huh?`
`03:57.25`	Funkeh`	`Why wouldn't it work`
`03:57.46`	`chexsum`	`there was an issue with clickspellbyname`
`03:57.54`	Funkeh`	`oh right yeah`
`03:58.43`	Funkeh`	`nymbia, I have to spank you lots and lots because you've been bad`
`03:59.08`	`Xinhuan`	`heh`
`03:59.31`	`Lukian`	Funkeh`, no cyber in the channel thx :p
`04:00.22`	Funkeh`	`night folks`
`04:00.27`	`Xinhuan`	`cya`
`04:00.37`	`kebinusan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665458374`
`04:00.42`	`JoshBorke`	`bye`
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`04:03.11`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61375 10FuBar_HBFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_HBFu: Initial Import of a FuBar plugin for HealBot`
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`04:04.53`	`JoshBorke`	`kebinusan: that's pretty funny`
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`04:06.19`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61376 10FuBar_HBFu/: FuBar_HBFu: Added Externals`
`04:06.23`	`Gngsk`	`weird, I've seen that thing linked all over the place today and it's not really much different from a post that was made like a year and a half ago`
`04:06.35`	`JoshBorke`	`it is probably the exact same post`
`04:06.39`	`Gngsk`	`heh`
`04:06.42`	`JoshBorke`	`just changed Nelf to Belf and called it a day ;-)`
`04:06.50`	`JoshBorke`	`but i still hadn't seen it :-) and it was pretty funny`
`04:07.15`	`Gngsk`	`I only glanced over it, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same post from back then. same principle though`
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`04:09.09`	`Gngsk`	`so are the chatframe issues fixed in the latest PTR push?`
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`04:13.20`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61377 10Chinchilla/locale/koKR.lua:`
`04:13.20`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla :`
`04:13.20`	`CIA-12`	`- Add locale koKR`
`04:14.14`	`Antiarc`	`http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iShb6NBtCI4`
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`04:23.20`	`Starinnia`	`hmm, I'm either missing something obvious, or the unit_spellcast_sent event doesn't give a target in 2.4 anymore`
`04:24.00`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O?!`
`04:24.24`	`Starinnia`	`yeah, thats what I did`
`04:24.51`	`Starinnia`	`I register the event, check the caster and the spell and try to print the arg that should be the target (and is in 2.3), but all I get is nil`
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`04:28.55`	`Starinnia`	`I'm leaning toward me messing it up somehow, since I'm really tired right now`
`04:31.25`	`chexsum`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:32.05`	`JoshBorke`	`do this: local f = CreateFrame"Frame"; f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, ...) for i=1,select('#', ...) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format("Arg: %d = %s", i or 0, tostring(select(i, ...)))) end end) f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT")`
`04:32.16`	`JoshBorke`	`(completely drycoded yada yada yada)`
`04:32.35`	`Starinnia`	`just did that myself, gonna test as soon as i reload`
`04:34.28`	`Starinnia`	`yeah, I messed it up, put the wrong number`
`04:34.35`	`Starinnia`	`stupid keyboard`
`04:36.47`	`Starinnia`	`well, I feel better now... thought all of WoW was broken for a minute :P`
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`04:58.22`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local t = {} t[1] = {} function t[1]:OnClick() print("a") end t[1]:OnClick()`
`04:58.22`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: luabot:1: '(' expected near '['`
`04:58.32`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local t = {} t[1] = {} function (t[1]):OnClick() print("a") end t[1]:OnClick()`
`04:58.32`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '('`
`04:58.41`	`Xinhuan`	`hm`
`04:58.58`	`Xinhuan`	`oh well`
`04:59.21`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local t = {} t[1] = {} function t[1].OnClick(self) print("a") end t[1]:OnClick()`
`04:59.21`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: luabot:1: '(' expected near '['`
`04:59.49`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local t = {} t[1] = {} t[1].OnClick = function(self) print("a") end t[1]:OnClick()`
`04:59.49`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: a`
`04:59.53`	`Xinhuan`	`FINE`
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`05:03.34`	`Diao`	`argh`
`05:03.41`	`Diao`	`why does autobar not copy layouts :(`
`05:04.40`	`CIA-12`	`03cronan * r61378 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`05:04.40`	`CIA-12`	`Babble-2.2:`
`05:04.40`	`CIA-12`	`- koKR Update (Sunwell Felmyst)`
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`05:11.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`omg fighting archimonde up in the hills is so fucking ez mode`
`05:13.25`	`HunterZ0`	`lol we're about to do archimonde but wont cheese him because we dont want to get dependent on doing it that way and then have blizz nerf it`
`05:14.05`	`Gngsk`	`Anyone else getting an AceComm-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 error? Just updated with WAU after like a week of putting it off.`
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`05:16.50`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61379 10Chinchilla/ (Position/Position.lua locale/enUS.lua): Chinchilla_Position - add ability to lock the minimap in place (e.g. make it not draggable)`
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`05:19.12`	`exor674`	`yaya! I got copied to the PTR :D :D`
`05:20.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`HunterZ0: took us 2 weeks to learn the normal way all while bitching about randomness and doomfires`
`05:20.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`1 night to learn the hill way`
`05:20.46`	`HunterZ0`	`lol`
`05:20.54`	`HunterZ0`	`took us about 2.5 nights to learn it the normal way`
`05:21.02`	`keiss`	`Arrowmaster: wtb url for a description of the 'hill way' :)`
`05:21.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres a video somewhere`
`05:21.23`	`HunterZ0`	`i can dig up a video in a min`
`05:22.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`we had to play around in the hills for a while to get a good position`
`05:22.23`	`HunterZ0`	`http://files.filefront.com/archimondewmv/1;9536490;/fileinfo.html`
`05:22.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`we had melee on one of the hills stabing him in the back`
`05:22.34`	`keiss`	`thx`
`05:22.43`	`HunterZ0`	`np`
`05:22.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`in that video, if its the same my guild saw, they have like 0 melee`
`05:23.01`	`HunterZ0`	`it's some asian guild`
`05:23.36`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61380 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Add 2 checkboxes to toggle ignoring Race and Talent calculations.`
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`05:26.06`	`CIA-12`	`03parnic * r61381 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.lua modules/PlayerHealth.lua modules/TargetHealth.lua):`
`05:26.06`	`CIA-12`	`IceHUD:`
`05:26.06`	`CIA-12`	`- added icon to config for purtiness`
`05:26.07`	`CIA-12`	`- made player icons and raid icons fade according to bar visibility and added a config option to make them always locked to 100%`
`05:26.42`	`exor674`	`heh -- apparently one of my mods i have installed (I'm using my live mods on the PTR)`
`05:26.51`	`exor674`	`causes my combat log window to creep up`
`05:26.56`	`exor674`	`likem for no reason D:`
`05:27.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont think thats a mod`
`05:27.10`	`keiss`	`i think thats a standard UI problem`
`05:27.12`	`exor674`	`heh, like every few seconds it moves up 1px`
`05:27.13`	`dylanm`	`That's their fault.`
`05:27.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`try draging your main chat window around`
`05:27.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`watch the combatlog go flying up`
`05:28.07`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61382 10Chinchilla/locale/koKR.lua:`
`05:28.07`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla :`
`05:28.07`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`05:35.06`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61383 10Chinchilla/ (Appearance/Appearance.lua locale/enUS.lua): Chinchilla_Appearance - add the option to change the minimap button border opacity. Doesn't work on all buttons (e.g. the clock and zoom in/out as well as any 3rd party stuff).`
`05:36.00`	`keiss`	`Arrowmaster: did u pull archimonde to one of the hills so that melee can dps him too ?`
`05:36.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`05:36.16`	`keiss`	`(watching the movie)`
`05:36.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`tank pulled him up a little then went back down to turn him around`
`05:37.27`	`keiss`	`they dont even have a full raid in the movie ... without the fires he will be down in no time`
`05:38.47`	`chiper`	`ckknight__`
`05:42.38`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61384 10Chinchilla/ (MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua locale/enUS.lua):`
`05:42.38`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla_MoveButtons - add ability to lock the buttons`
`05:42.38`	`CIA-12`	`CHIN-6`
`05:43.02`	`chiper`	`grrr, he's not paying attention`
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`05:52.17`	`NeoTron`	`is the PTR recount trunk or separate branch?`
`05:55.42`	`Civrock`	`NeoTron: It's in branches.`
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`05:56.50`	`NeoTron`	`ah there it is`
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`05:59.07`	`NeoTron`	`how's Threat coming along? (I assume it's Threat-2.0), anyone know?`
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`06:03.49`	`Gngsk`	`is files down/slow or is it just me?`
`06:04.45`	`keiss`	`seems ok from here`
`06:05.14`	`Gngsk`	`k, thx, prolly just my isp`
`06:05.41`	`Gngsk`	`i updated via wau then my embeds got borked and tried messing around with it but wau won't load the addon index`
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`06:12.20`	`HunterZ0`	`is it okay to do an "omit externals" checkout of an addon if i run disembedded libraries and i'm intending to make a change and check it in, or do i have to check out the externals too anyways?`
`06:14.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`its fine`
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`06:15.48`	`Antiarc`	`I always checkout without externals if I'm editing something`
`06:15.54`	`Antiarc`	`No good reason to download them :P`
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`06:22.41`	`Zypher	`adwa`
`06:22.44`	`Zypher	`woops`
`06:22.48`	`HunterZ0`	`i should edit the svn for beginners wiki page to mention that`
`06:23.23`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`06:23.38`	`Xinhuan`	`issecurevariable() is returning 2 values, wonder what the second 1 is`
`06:23.40`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61385 10Chinchilla/ (MoveButtons/MoveButtons.lua locale/enUS.lua):`
`06:23.40`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla_MoveButtons - add ability to move buttons freely, i.e. not attached to the minimap.`
`06:23.40`	`CIA-12`	`CHIN-5`
`06:23.49`	`ckknight__`	`Xinhuan: which addon (as a string) did it`
`06:24.09`	`Xinhuan`	`so that's the taint source?`
`06:24.14`	`ckknight__`	`yea`
`06:25.27`	`Xinhuan`	`think you can allow the zone text to get dragged around to wherever people want in chinchilla?`
`06:25.43`	`Xinhuan`	`the zone bar that is`
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`06:28.16`	`CIA-12`	`03quezacolt * r61386 10Checklist2/Core.lua:`
`06:28.16`	`CIA-12`	`Checklist2:`
`06:28.16`	`CIA-12`	`- The last fix broke as much stuff as it fixed. Fixed.`
`06:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`03swearl * r61387 10beql/extra/goodies.lua:`
`06:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`beql:`
`06:29.34`	`CIA-12`	`- added a sound "Work Complete"`
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`06:32.39`	`HunterZ0`	`hmm Chinchilla likes to show a blank black minimap when i'm indoors, unless i set the opacity to 100%. i think i may remember reading that some minimap addons force the indoor/instance opacity to 100% to get around that.`
`06:33.00`	`HunterZ0`	`changing the opacity to 100% and back seemed to snap it out of being blank`
`06:33.40`	`puika`	`http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493`
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`06:37.23`	`Netcurse`	`hey guys`
`06:37.48`	`Gngsk`	`hi`
`06:38.24`	`ckknight`	`o hai thar`
`06:38.24`	`Gngsk`	`anyone else have messed up embeds w/aloft?`
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`06:39.50`	`Netcurse`	`just wanted everyone know that the curse TOS is being changed, to be honnest i asked our laywers for a term of use, they put a bunch of useless things into including the thing copyright thing, it s going to be gone in a few minutes. sorry for the trouble it was NOT intented.`
`06:40.08`	`Netcurse`	`=thing`
`06:40.19`	`Grum`	`If you want to run two instances of the wow-client, do you have to actually run them from 2 seperate wow-installs?`
`06:40.26`	xyu`	`n op`
`06:40.26`	xyu`	`no`
`06:40.30`	xyu`	`just hit the exe again`
`06:41.06`	`Gngsk`	`hit it like you mean it`
`06:42.27`	`keiss`	`"...you become well fed and gain 720 stamina.." i hope thats a bug :D`
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`06:43.10`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`06:43.51`	`keiss`	`in the tooltip for feltail delight :)`
`06:43.55`	`durcyn`	`read on. "for 30 seconds"`
`06:44.27`	`keiss`	`hehe lol , even better`
`06:44.49`	`keiss`	`the best part is that it gives no well fed buff and you never finish eating it ...`
`06:45.24`	`Snago`	`Are there any good diff on the patch notes for the ptr anywhere?`
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`06:50.48`	`HunterZ0`	`lol i forgot i had installed AmmoGnome until it threw an error just now - looks like it's broken or something?`
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`07:00.30`	`CIA-12`	`03hegarol * r61388 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs):`
`07:00.30`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot:`
`07:00.30`	`CIA-12`	`- German bugfix, Babble integration for Magister's Terrace`
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`07:02.00`	`CIA-12`	`03hunterz * r61389 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFu.lua:`
`07:02.00`	`CIA-12`	`FuBar_AmmoFu:`
`07:02.00`	`CIA-12`	`- Display 0% instead of a crazy negative number if the player has no ammo and no quiver/ammo pouch,`
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`07:02.42`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61390 10Threat-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-2.0: Added 10kb of delicious USDA Grade-A warrior module`
`07:02.46`	`HunterZ0`	`my first commit :)`
`07:03.34`	`HunterZ0`	`why thank you >.>`
`07:05.29`	`puika`	`http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493`
`07:05.46`	`Antiarc`	`Hr,`
`07:05.47`	`Antiarc`	`Hrm`
`07:05.48`	`HunterZ0`	`puika: what's with the URL spam?`
`07:05.51`	`Antiarc`	`I think this is a cruel joke`
`07:05.52`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.wowdb.com/search.aspx?search_text=invisibility`
`07:06.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`why?`
`07:07.44`	`Antiarc`	`Oh, wait, I see, just a CSS issue >_>`
`07:07.49`	`Antiarc`	`It was coming up as a blank page to me`
`07:07.57`	`Antiarc`	`Because I searched "invisibility"`
`07:09.52`	`HunterZ0`	`lol`
`07:10.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`that also seems to list the mage spell, but the actual buff that makes them invisible is probably under the uncatagorized section`
`07:10.32`	`Antiarc`	`What I've found is that most of the time, the spell in the spellbook is what the combat log reports`
`07:10.37`	`Antiarc`	`It needs testing, of course`
`07:11.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah but dont mages get one buff then after 5-6 seconds go invisible`
`07:11.22`	`Antiarc`	`Hrm, I'll have to test`
`07:11.25`	`NeoTron`	`can't wait for a proper per-target threat meter`
`07:11.27`	`NeoTron`	`that'll rock`
`07:11.30`	`Antiarc`	`The old code just checked for a buff named "Invisibility"`
`07:11.47`	`Kody-`	`yeah they do`
`07:12.00`	`Kody-`	`i can log on my mage and test it if you want me to`
`07:12.21`	`Antiarc`	`Kody-: I'd mostly want the spell IDs from the COMBATLOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED events`
`07:12.29`	`Antiarc`	`Which you can get if you're using DevTools or something`
`07:12.33`	`Antiarc`	`It'll be arg9`
`07:13.22`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61391 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/ (HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua HandyNotes_Mailboxes.toc): HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Convert files to UTF8`
`07:13.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`or just turn on combatloging use it then turn it off`
`07:13.35`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, that'd work too!`
`07:13.38`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61392 10HandyNotes_Stables/ (HandyNotes_Stables.toc Locales/enUS.lua addon.lua): Convert files to UTF8`
`07:13.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`after actually going invisable`
`07:13.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`and make Antiarc do all the work by sending him the combat log`
`07:14.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`you probably want me to get a log of soulshatter too i bet`
`07:14.41`	`Antiarc`	`That would rule, yes`
`07:14.43`	`Antiarc`	`Including a resist`
`07:14.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`do you know how hard that is....`
`07:15.05`	`Antiarc`	`Yes :p`
`07:15.17`	`Antiarc`	`Though`
`07:15.20`	`Antiarc`	`Go to the deadmines`
`07:15.25`	`nevcairiel`	`remove all spellhit gear and gogo`
`07:15.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`especially since ill have to fly back to silvermoon and trash half my bank to make inventory space`
`07:15.28`	`Antiarc`	`Run through it up to the ogre`
`07:15.31`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61393 10HandyNotes/ (HandyNotes.lua HandyNotes.toc HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua): HandyNotes: Convert files to UTF8, add a HandyNotes core stub plugin, update icon code.`
`07:15.35`	`Antiarc`	`Collect all the mobs you can`
`07:15.39`	`Antiarc`	`Soulshatter!`
`07:16.43`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: hehe and die for great justice!`
`07:16.55`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61394 10Chinchilla/ (Ping/ Ping/Ping.lua locale/enUS.lua modules.xml):`
`07:16.55`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla - add Ping module`
`07:16.55`	`CIA-12`	`CHIN-2`
`07:16.57`	`Xinhuan`	`how does soulshatter work`
`07:17.16`	`Snago`	`or roll your face over the keyboard and kill them all!`
`07:17.26`	`Snago`	`sorry, it had to be said`
`07:17.27`	`Xinhuan`	`reduces threat to all mobs? any possibility some mobs resist it and some don't?`
`07:17.33`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`07:17.48`	`nevcairiel`	`it reduces the threat of all mobs to like 50% in 30y`
`07:17.52`	`nevcairiel`	`any single mob can resist`
`07:17.52`	`Antiarc`	`It's like Feign Death, but you get per-mob resist messages`
`07:18.00`	`Antiarc`	`And it's only 50% wipe`
`07:18.02`	`Antiarc`	`Rather than 100%`
`07:18.10`	`Xinhuan`	`so you can't really determine if a mob is within 30 yards of you?`
`07:18.18`	`Xinhuan`	`for this effect`
`07:18.20`	`Antiarc`	`nevcairiel: Druids are back in my good graces`
`07:18.26`	`Antiarc`	`Fireball: 14 ranks`
`07:18.27`	`nevcairiel`	`how so?`
`07:18.29`	`nevcairiel`	`rofl`
`07:18.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`i hope they give soulshatter like combatlog messages for FD`
`07:18.36`	`Antiarc`	`Frostbolt: 14 ranks`
`07:18.36`	`Kody-`	`http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=66 and http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=32612 it looks like`
`07:18.51`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks Kody`
`07:18.54`	`Xinhuan`	`i mean, lets say i'm on 10 mobs threat, and when i cast soulshatter, i'm in 30 yards range of only 6 of them`
`07:19.03`	`Antiarc`	`Kody-: Do you have a combatlog of that?`
`07:19.05`	`Xinhuan`	`how many combat log messages get generated, if 1 of the 6 resisted?`
`07:19.09`	`nevcairiel`	`i think its actually 50y`
`07:19.12`	`Antiarc`	`I need to know which buff is gained where`
`07:19.17`	`HunterZ0`	`FD has had per-mob resist for a long time, although it doesn't tell you who resisted :\`
`07:19.18`	`nevcairiel`	`Xinhuan: 6 i guess`
`07:19.20`	`Bruners`	`is there any good and easy obtainable retribution shoulders except gladiator ones?`
`07:19.21`	`Antiarc`	`Xinhuan: 6 messages, 5 lands and 1 resist`
`07:19.28`	`Antiarc`	`HunterZ0: Right, that's what I mean`
`07:19.32`	`Antiarc`	`I want per-mob resist messages`
`07:19.38`	`HunterZ0`	`that would be really nice`
`07:19.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`Xinhuan: 1 combatlog message per soulshatter followed by 1 saying preformed it`
`07:19.42`	`Xinhuan`	`i didn't think you get landed messages if it was successful`
`07:19.48`	`nevcairiel`	`you did`
`07:19.52`	`nevcairiel`	`for soulshatter anyway`
`07:19.58`	`Antiarc`	`You perform Soulshatter on Mobname`
`07:20.00`	`Antiarc`	`I think`
`07:20.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`07:20.04`	`Xinhuan`	`is Fade the same?`
`07:20.06`	`Antiarc`	`Like Feint`
`07:20.10`	`Antiarc`	`Fade is a buff gain`
`07:20.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`fade is different`
`07:20.21`	`Antiarc`	`Fade is a temporary reduction in all threat, nonresistable`
`07:20.29`	`Antiarc`	`When the buff drops you get the threat back`
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`07:20.47`	`nevcairiel`	`fade reduces your threat by like some constant modifier, no?`
`07:20.51`	`nevcairiel`	`like, 1000`
`07:20.54`	`nevcairiel`	`(not much)`
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`07:21.51`	`Antiarc`	`1500 at max rank, modified by any threat modifiers`
`07:21.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`and looking at the spells kody linked i have to agree that the second one is the right one, since its also a lvl 68 spell and has a duration of 20 seconds`
`07:22.02`	`Antiarc`	`So if you have Salv it reduces 1050 threat`
`07:22.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and its a temporary suspension of said threat, not a permanent reduction`
`07:22.24`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`07:22.31`	`HunterZ0`	`night all`
`07:22.31`	`Fisker--`	`O HAI?`
`07:22.34`	`Xinhuan`	`what about the trinket from vashj`
`07:22.49`	`Xinhuan`	`or is it fankriss`
`07:22.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`oh, you already said that, i guess i should read before commenting`
`07:22.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`my bad. ><`
`07:23.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm so what happens if you fade right before felrage on bloodboil and it wears off after the insignificance debuff, does the threat go up or not?`
`07:23.32`	`Antiarc`	`Fankriss' trinket is like Salv basically`
`07:23.38`	`Antiarc`	`Reduces all threat produced during its duration`
`07:23.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`i still want fankriss trinket =(`
`07:23.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`for shits and giggles`
`07:24.12`	`Antiarc`	`You know it scales downwards in effectiveness as you level, right?`
`07:24.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`07:24.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`its like 35% at 70`
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`07:26.27`	`Antiarc`	`Anyone here with a character on the PTR with a lightning capacitor?`
`07:27.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm find an elemental shaman too while your at it, see if the lightning overload proc is the same spellid`
`07:27.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`as normal lightning bolt`
`07:27.54`	`Zhinjio`	`I think my world server just went down.`
`07:28.04`	`Zhinjio`	`njm`
`07:28.06`	`Zhinjio`	`nm`
`07:28.14`	`Zhinjio`	`might have been my connxn locally`
`07:29.37`	`Antiarc`	`It is`
`07:29.43`	`Antiarc`	`It's "A second, identical spell"`
`07:29.55`	`Antiarc`	`The pre-2.4 tracking for that will apply in 2.4 as well`
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`07:34.17`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61395 10Recount/ (. Tracker.lua embeds.xml healbuffs.lua):`
`07:34.17`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`07:34.17`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed various syntax errors in the new spellId code.`
`07:34.17`	`CIA-12`	`- Babble-Spell is back because Threat-1.0 still needs it.`
`07:34.37`	`keiss`	`anyone knows where the fishing-daily guy is ?`
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`07:35.04`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't get what elsia's point is - that copy of recount ONLY works on 2.4, and threat-1.0 DOES NOT work on 2.4`
`07:35.34`	`nevcairiel`	`just let him be :P`
`07:38.56`	`CIA-12`	`03ngollon * r61396 10PitBull_LifebloomBar/: Created directory PitBull_LifebloomBar`
`07:39.43`	`CIA-12`	`03fauks * r61397 10Palatank/: Created folder remotely`
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`07:40.35`	`thul`	`i love leasticoulddo`
`07:43.32`	`CIA-12`	`03ngollon * r61398 10PitBull_LifebloomBar/ (LifebloomBar.lua PitBull_LifebloomBar.toc): PitBull_LifebloomBar: initial commit.`
`07:44.00`	`keiss`	`hehe ... fishing rod graphics are totally broken on the ptr atm , when i cast there are 3 different lines going in random directions , none of witch is towards the bobber`
`07:45.34`	`Grum`	`omg multilure!`
`07:45.59`	`CIA-12`	`03nevcairiel * r61399 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.toc: LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: fix library path in the .toc`
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`07:50.56`	`kebinusan`	`anyone able to check the druid set bonuses on the ptr`
`07:51.01`	`keiss`	`wonder why the moved G'eras`
`07:51.03`	`kebinusan`	`looks like they nerfed the druid gladiator set bonuses`
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`07:51.26`	`puika`	`http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493`
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`07:55.16`	`CIA-12`	`03cwdg * r61400 10Whats/Locale/Whats.Locale.zhCN.lua:`
`07:55.16`	`CIA-12`	`Whats :zhCN Update`
`07:55.16`	`CIA-12`	`to Damjau: so, is it impossible to tag the strings to make the locales easier?`
`07:55.16`	`CIA-12`	`Generally refers to the number of tagging ok?`
`07:56.03`	`dylanm`	`If I understood Latvian I would totally help you become the dragon master`
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`08:23.44`	xyu`	`what's the diff between "GearEvaluator" and "GearRating" ? which do you guys prefer`
`08:24.01`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont use either`
`08:24.25`	xyu`	`I normally wouldn't, but i just rolled a hunter and i don't really know which stats to prioritize. ><`
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`08:25.16`	`Xinhuan`	`read some hunter guides`
`08:25.20`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61402 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/ (Druid.lua Mage.lua):`
`08:25.20`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-2.0:`
`08:25.20`	`CIA-12`	`- Cleaned up the druid module`
`08:25.20`	`CIA-12`	`- Added Mage module of awesomeness. It'll poly your mans. Baaaa.`
`08:25.23`	`Xinhuan`	`ask some hunters in your guild`
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`08:27.58`	xyu`	`I have a suggestion for wowequip, not sure if it's possible. But is it possible to have a "custom" equipment icon. One that i could edit the stats in myself? it would probably be a lot of owrk. but it 'd be cool`
`08:28.02`	`Orionshock`	`so... anyone else read some of the code for threat-2?`
`08:28.07`	xyu`	`for planning out sunwell gear and futre patches`
`08:28.11`	`CIA-12`	`03fauks * r61403 10Palatank/ (Palatank.lua Palatank.toc Palatank.xml localisation.lua):`
`08:28.11`	`CIA-12`	`Palatank`
`08:28.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Added to WAU`
`08:28.27`	`Antiarc`	`Orionshock: I've read a bit of it`
`08:28.29`	`theoddone33`	`macro system is annoying`
`08:28.32`	`Antiarc`	`:P`
`08:28.33`	`theoddone33`	`in how limited it is`
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`08:29.03`	`Orionshock`	`Antiarc: :D, i read some of it while at work, and i started to wonder about why you set it up the way you did... it seems a bit odd`
`08:29.09`	`theoddone33`	`I so want to be able to do /cast [help,noself] Blessing of Protection; Divine Shield`
`08:29.16`	`theoddone33`	`but no, I cannot`
`08:29.34`	`Antiarc`	`Orionshock: How so?`
`08:30.29`	`CIA-12`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r61404 10Ace3/ (5 files in 4 dirs):`
`08:30.29`	`CIA-12`	`Ace3 - Add a page to the Blizzard 2.4 Interface Options with icons to open dialogs for configs registered when installed standalone`
`08:30.29`	`CIA-12`	`AceGUI: Add Icon widget`
`08:30.29`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`08:30.52`	`Orionshock`	`the loading of each module as a function into a table, then right as the last file loads it v() the table keys then rips it out of _G and then force-ably pushes it'self into LibStub .... just found it an odd and obscure method`
`08:30.55`	`Xinhuan`	`Nargiddley, screenshot of that?`
`08:30.58`	`Xinhuan`	`wtb`
`08:31.13`	`Nargiddley`	`sec`
`08:31.22`	`thul`	`I was out on the radio, starting to change somewhere in america`
`08:31.25`	`Antiarc`	`The function-ization is so that I can get the max revision number in the entire lib before I try to load it, to see if it needs to be upgraded or not`
`08:31.44`	`Antiarc`	`The LibStub thing is because I need the lib's table created via AceAddon:New, so that it inherits the module management code`
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`08:32.01`	`Antiarc`	`Then I inject it into LibStub so that you can LibStub("Threat-2.0") more or less.`
`08:32.21`	`Antiarc`	`(Threat-1.0 does the function thing too)`
`08:33.26`	`Orionshock`	`ya, i still find it a bit weird...`
`08:33.43`	`Nargiddley`	`http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/150/ace3configyx1.png`
`08:35.36`	`Xinhuan`	`that's a lot of configtest addons`
`08:35.53`	`CIA-12`	`03fauks * r61405 10Palatank/Sounds/ (. RF.mp3):`
`08:35.53`	`CIA-12`	`Palatank :`
`08:35.53`	`CIA-12`	`- v 1.2.8`
`08:35.57`	`Nargiddley`	`its the same one 30 times :P`
`08:36.06`	`Xinhuan`	`umm do you provide an icon for us`
`08:36.09`	`Xinhuan`	`or do we have to specify an icon?`
`08:36.22`	`nevcairiel`	`probably the .icon in the root node`
`08:36.23`	`Nargiddley`	`thats the default one, it comes from the options table if specified there`
`08:36.27`	`Nargiddley`	`thats the one`
`08:36.36`	`Nargiddley`	`.icon and .name from the root are shown`
`08:36.41`	`Xinhuan`	`so like my root options table should have a .icon and .name?`
`08:36.42`	`thul`	`hmm`
`08:36.47`	`Nargiddley`	`yep`
`08:37.03`	`Xinhuan`	`and if .icon isn't in my root, it uses that default one right?`
`08:37.07`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`08:37.13`	`Xinhuan`	`pretty`
`08:37.30`	`Xinhuan`	`but i see configtest is "duplicated"`
`08:37.30`	xyu`	`what is chinchilla?`
`08:37.33`	`Xinhuan`	`on the left frame`
`08:37.48`	`Xinhuan`	`is that going to be the case?`
`08:37.58`	`Nargiddley`	`thats the explicit call to add the actual options to the bliz config`
`08:38.09`	`Nargiddley`	`doesnt' do it by default`
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`08:38.12`	`Xinhuan`	`ok`
`08:38.22`	`Xinhuan`	`time to pick icons lol`
`08:38.59`	`CIA-12`	`03fauks * r61406 10Palatank/ (87 files in 26 dirs):`
`08:38.59`	`CIA-12`	`Palatank :`
`08:38.59`	`CIA-12`	`- 1.2.8`
`08:39.07`	`Xinhuan`	`what's Palatank ~_~`
`08:39.15`	`Nargiddley`	`1.2.8`
`08:39.22`	`Nargiddley`	`isnt that all you need to know ?`
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`08:39.33`	`nevcairiel`	`and its 87 files`
`08:39.35`	`Nargiddley`	`and its alot of files oO`
`08:39.37`	`Nargiddley`	`heh`
`08:39.37`	`nevcairiel`	`probably a bloathouse`
`08:39.38`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`08:39.49`	`Xinhuan`	`26 directories are counted as files right?`
`08:39.57`	`nevcairiel`	`dont think so, no`
`08:40.00`	`Orionshock`	`ckknight: question, any way to get chinchilla to not give the rock config when you right click the minimap?`
`08:40.19`	`Xinhuan`	`Orionshock lol, that has been the request for just about every rock addon`
`08:40.24`	`Xinhuan`	`especially fubar`
`08:40.25`	`Orionshock`	`hehe`
`08:40.44`	`renchap`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Palatank/Changelog.txt`
`08:40.47`	`Xinhuan`	`fairly sure you won't get it ;p`
`08:41.13`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: i'll find it :P`
`08:41.23`	`nevcairiel`	`now i know why there are that many files`
`08:41.33`	`nevcairiel`	`the guy hard copied the ace2 libs`
`08:41.40`	`Xinhuan`	`o_O`
`08:42.34`	`CIA-12`	`thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r110 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Tweaked some code. If you use offsets for CURSOR, you may notice the tooltip will fade instead of disappearing. This is the best solution to a bad problem.`
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`08:45.30`	`thul`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZhfVb0VzxZyMI00hRo <- ok trispec-spec? :-)`
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`08:45.43`	`Zypher	`i am sleepy`
`08:45.44`	`Zypher	`=[`
`08:45.46`	`thul`	`I'm unsure if we have another hemo in the raid I'm going to.. so, that or cookie cutter combat sword`
`08:45.56`	`thul`	`for the playstyle, faster cp-generation, dirty deeds etc`
`08:46.05`	`thul`	`but combat potency and AR is also nice...`
`08:49.03`	`thul`	`the alternative is something like: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGcVbMVkxMGRt`
`08:49.07`	`thul`	`anyone? :-P`
`08:49.33`	xyu`	`i once played a rogue on the ptr, and went to stormwind to kill duelers, and got my ass kicked.`
`08:49.38`	xyu`	`only time i've ever played a rogue`
`08:49.56`	`thul`	`haha`
`08:49.56`	`thul`	`ok`
`08:49.57`	`thul`	`:-P`
`08:51.11`	`CIA-12`	`03sayclub * r61407 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Kalecgos: koKR Update`
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`08:53.31`	`theoddone33`	`did I read something about a macro conditional for battlegrounds?`
`08:53.38`	`theoddone33`	`I mean`
`08:53.56`	`theoddone33`	`like party/raid/noparty/noraid but for BG groups`
`08:56.01`	`Xinhuan`	`you read wrong, it was explicitly declined months ago`
`08:56.12`	`theoddone33`	`weird`
`08:56.38`	`theoddone33`	`blizzard thwarts my macro attempt at every turn`
`08:56.40`	`theoddone33`	`curses!`
`08:56.48`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`Antiarc still there?`
`08:56.51`	`Antiarc`	`Yo`
`08:57.09`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`if you got a work in progress not throwing tons of errors, we got a full raid going on ptr ;)`
`08:57.32`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`planing at least 2 raids for the weekend on eu ptr`
`08:57.35`	`Antiarc`	`FtH\|Daemona: You can download the Threat-2.0 branch if you want, but it has no GUI and won't do you a lot of good right now`
`08:57.40`	`Orionshock`	`FtH\|Daemona: /combatlog`
`08:57.58`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`and guess i'll drop you a log here in a second so you get some feint/vanish ;)`
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`08:58.38`	`Antiarc`	`Wonderful, thanks`
`08:58.46`	`Antiarc`	`I don't expect those to be hard, just want log entries for them :)`
`09:00.16`	`Antiarc`	`FtH\|Daemona: If you can, get a warlock to drop the -threat totem, too`
`09:00.19`	`Antiarc`	`I need log entries for that`
`09:00.31`	`nevcairiel`	`warlocks with totems?`
`09:00.36`	`Antiarc`	`Err`
`09:00.37`	`Antiarc`	`Shaman`
`09:00.42`	`Antiarc`	`I'm working on the warlock module :P`
`09:01.13`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`got an immune -> feint for u ;)`
`09:01.30`	`Antiarc`	`Ooh, that should be interesting to see.`
`09:01.31`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`mechanical units suxx ;)`
`09:01.35`	`Antiarc`	`yup`
`09:01.39`	xyu`	`hrm silly question, how do i get "TEST" to stop showing on Buffalo2. :P`
`09:01.57`	`thul`	`I like a perfect circle`
`09:01.57`	`thul`	`:-D`
`09:02.02`	xyu`	`under my buff icons`
`09:04.17`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`http://www.savefile.com/files/1381601 Antiarc`
`09:04.35`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks!`
`09:06.31`	`Thorgard`	`Antiarc, what kind of logs do you still need?`
`09:06.40`	`Antiarc`	`Thorgard: I'll take anything, really`
`09:06.50`	`Antiarc`	`I mostly just want lots of logs to be able to cross-reference things`
`09:07.07`	xyu`	`rawr! i wish i could use "sandbox" in buffalo2 as my real buffs. It's spiffy and adds a really nice little abreviation of the buff above the addon. If i use the actual bufffalo2 buffs they remove this spiffy abreviation :(`
`09:07.17`	xyu`	`how do i keep the abreviation. cry`
`09:08.40`	`nevcairiel`	`does a log of me doing daily quests with a fuckton other people around help ? =P`
`09:08.51`	`Xinhuan`	`WTB US character copies`
`09:08.58`	`Antiarc`	`nevcairiel: It might, sure!`
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`09:09.51`	`theoddone33`	`this is such a pain`
`09:09.53`	`theoddone33`	`testing macros`
`09:09.57`	`theoddone33`	`debugging them even`
`09:12.00`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`so...who is gonna write a small interpreter for the new combat log file? its far from human-readable ^^`
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`09:12.18`	`nevcairiel`	`sure it is`
`09:12.22`	`nevcairiel`	`you just suck :)`
`09:13.06`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`that just sounded like " There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't...."`
`09:13.09`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`:(`
`09:13.19`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
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`09:13.42`	`Adirelle`	`please don't slap me : is something planned about that new combat log ? (something like libparser compat layer or even a brand new thing)`
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`09:14.36`	`Adirelle`	`ok, that, it is done...`
`09:14.49`	`nevcairiel`	`whoever starts to write a parser compat layer for the new log deserves to DIAF`
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`09:15.10`	`Xinhuan`	`nevcairiel, i'm sure someone will do it`
`09:15.16`	`Xinhuan`	`just because he can`
`09:15.20`	`nevcairiel`	`Xinhuan: and they shall burn`
`09:15.23`	`Adirelle`	`DIAF ? "ie ?? ?? ??"?`
`09:15.53`	`nevcairiel`	`the new combatlog is so easy to parse and to use`
`09:15.59`	`nevcairiel`	`any parserlib would just be stupid`
`09:16.47`	`Adirelle`	`well, from the topic of Elsia, getting the args doesn't seems this easy`
`09:16.53`	`nevcairiel`	`why not?`
`09:17.15`	`Adirelle`	`I mean it doesn't look easy`
`09:17.39`	`nevcairiel`	`you just register for COMBATLOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, check which event you got, and all args are passed to your handler`
`09:18.28`	`Orionshock`	`nevcairiel: might be good to register both filtered and unfiltered, and just pass it the same function`
`09:18.37`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, why?`
`09:18.46`	`nevcairiel`	`unfiltered will contain the same as filterd`
`09:18.47`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:18.51`	`nevcairiel`	`plus more`
`09:18.52`	`Orionshock`	`k`
`09:18.58`	`Orionshock`	`<<-- didn't know that :P`
`09:19.01`	`nevcairiel`	`unfiltered is always all`
`09:19.04`	`Xinhuan`	`Adirelle, elsia is a fool`
`09:19.16`	`Xinhuan`	`he does totally unnecessary stuff`
`09:19.30`	`Xinhuan`	`like supporting Threat-1.0`
`09:19.35`	`Xinhuan`	`in Recount`
`09:19.51`	`Xinhuan`	`his last commit to the 2.4 recount in the branches is`
`09:19.52`	`Xinhuan`	`- Babble-Spell is back because Threat-1.0 still needs it.`
`09:20.00`	`Grum`	`KEK`
`09:20.01`	`Xinhuan`	`and that's the stupidest thing i've ever read`
`09:20.05`	`Xinhuan`	`because`
`09:20.13`	`Grum`	`asif Threat-1.0 will even work O.o`
`09:20.13`	`Xinhuan`	`that copy of recount ONLY works on 2.4, and threat-1.0 DOES NOT work on 2.4`
`09:20.31`	`Grum`	`someone was clearly sleeping ^^`
`09:20.50`	`Xinhuan`	`Threat-1.0 only works on global threat spells basically`
`09:21.11`	`Antiarc`	`Not even that`
`09:21.28`	`Antiarc`	`It only works on certain things that there are UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED handlers for`
`09:21.49`	`Xinhuan`	`i told him to drop Threat support completely`
`09:22.04`	`Xinhuan`	`because cryect embeds threat straight into recount`
`09:22.31`	`Grum`	`~api GetItemInfo`
`09:22.31`	`purl`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo`
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`09:23.35`	`kebinusan`	`so there is a thrown weapon in halaa that you can buy for 2g that has a 75% chance to de into a greater planar or something`
`09:24.37`	`Xinhuan`	`err is it on limited supply?`
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`09:30.46`	`Aeyan`	`Yes and yes`
`09:31.36`	`CIA-12`	`037destiny * r61408 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:`
`09:31.36`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`09:31.36`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
`09:31.52`	`kebinusan`	`yea 3 every 30 minutes`
`09:32.46`	`Aeyan`	`Avenging Blades / The Sharp Cookie`
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`09:33.39`	xyu`	`Does bigwigz have the option for sending a bosses status if whispered during a bossfight?`
`09:33.44`	xyu`	`(or any other similar addon)`
`09:33.57`	`Civrock`	`BossWhisperer or so, I think.`
`09:34.10`	xyu`	`i got bosswhisperer and i can only see that it supresses whispers`
`09:34.13`	xyu`	`and sets you DnD`
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`09:34.20`	xyu`	`i dont know if it sends a tell w/ status tho`
`09:34.24`	`Bruners`	`deadly bossmods has that`
`09:34.29`	`Civrock`	`Oh yeah, guess only DBM.`
`09:34.32`	xyu`	`right, but i dont want to use DBM`
`09:34.34`	xyu`	`oki`
`09:35.22`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`kebinusan you know that famous fight club line do you? ;)`
`09:35.41`	`Orionshock`	`noobs, can't live with em ... can't seem to get rid of em...`
`09:37.07`	`Codayus`	`BossWhisperer does, I'm told.`
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`09:37.34`	`Kalroth`	`Nice description :p`
`09:37.35`	`Kalroth`	`"Sets you to DND when you fight a boss, and some other crap."`
`09:38.20`	xyu`	`hmm`
`09:38.28`	`CIA-12`	`03ggcall * r61409 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.zhCN.lua WhoDrop.toc):`
`09:38.28`	`CIA-12`	`WhoDrop`
`09:38.28`	`CIA-12`	`- update zhCN file`
`09:38.28`	`CIA-12`	`- update toc file`
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`09:38.38`	`Kalroth`	`it only does simple percentage status`
`09:38.44`	`Kalroth`	`["dndMessage"] = "I'm busy fighting %s (currently at %d%). You'll be notified when combat ends.",`
`09:38.49`	xyu`	`I guess i could go pull Onyxia`
`09:38.50`	xyu`	`and iceblock`
`09:38.53`	xyu`	`and have someone send me a tell`
`09:38.55`	xyu`	`in that instant`
`09:39.00`	`Codayus`	`Kalroth: What would you like it to do?`
`09:39.02`	`Kalroth`	`Or just check the code?`
`09:39.16`	`Kalroth`	`Codayus: Like DBM, it does percentage and raid members alive.`
`09:39.22`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61410 10Chinchilla/locale/zhCN.lua: Chinchilla: zhCN update`
`09:39.50`	`Codayus`	`Doesn't sound hard to do.`
`09:40.00`	`Kalroth`	`Codayus: When sitting outside and on an alt, it's useful to see if you got 25/25 or 5/25 at Illidan 5% :)`
`09:40.01`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:40.04`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:40.10`	xyu`	`yeah`
`09:40.12`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:40.12`	`Antiarc`	`para-methoxy-`
`09:40.12`	`Antiarc`	`tri-nitro benzaldehyde!`
`09:40.19`	xyu`	`i spam my friend "status" when he's fighting kael. lol`
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`09:40.44`	`Kalroth`	xyu`: yeah, I often do that when slacking on alts :p
`09:40.55`	`Kalroth`	`and then yell at people in gchat if they're fucking up`
`09:41.11`	`Kalroth`	`Antiarc is stoned, don't mind him!`
`09:41.29`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:41.29`	`Antiarc`	`Who decided her subject should die.`
`09:41.30`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:41.31`	`Antiarc`	`The subjected discovered`
`09:41.33`	`Kalroth`	`He just smoked ortho-hydroxy-para-methoxy-tri-nitro benzaldehyde!`
`09:41.35`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:41.40`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`09:41.50`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`09:41.56`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:41.57`	`Codayus`	`I was hoping it was a portal joke after the first line...`
`09:41.58`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:42.15`	`Antiarc`	`http://limerickdb.com/`
`09:42.55`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:42.55`	`Antiarc`	`picked up the wrong sandwich to chew.`
`09:43.00`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:43.00`	`Antiarc`	`before spitting, in fright,`
`09:43.04`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:43.16`	`Wobin`	`~imagehosting`
`09:43.16`	`purl`	`well, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire`
`09:43.34`	`cladhaire`	`http://patchdiff.pastey.net/82219 if you didn't see in the lounge is the API/event changes in the latest PTR build`
`09:43.38`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61411 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:`
`09:43.38`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`09:43.38`	`CIA-12`	`- First PitBull.lua frFR localization.`
`09:43.40`	`Antiarc`	`This one's for ckknight`
`09:43.44`	`Antiarc`	`If you catch a Chinchilla in Chile`
`09:43.44`	`Antiarc`	`And cut off its beard, willy-nilly`
`09:43.49`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:43.49`	`Antiarc`	`That you have just made`
`09:43.53`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:44.48`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`less google more threat !`
`09:45.05`	`Antiarc`	`There once was a sysadmin, Eddie,`
`09:45.05`	`ramoz`	`ckknight_: ping?`
`09:45.10`	`Antiarc`	`Who could strip, touch and finger real steady.`
`09:45.15`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:45.16`	xyu`	`grr something is suddenly making my tinytip's font all diablo2 like ><`
`09:45.18`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:45.21`	`Fisker--`	`bai`
`09:45.21`	xyu`	`can't figure out where to change it.`
`09:45.23`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:45.25`	`Fisker--`	`i luv you`
`09:45.34`	`Kalroth`	`hahah`
`09:45.39`	`Kalroth`	`There once was a plumber from Brie,`
`09:45.39`	`Kalroth`	`Who was plumbing a lass by the sea,`
`09:45.39`	`Kalroth`	`She cried "Plumber, stop plumbing,`
`09:45.39`	`Kalroth`	`There's somebody coming!"`
`09:45.39`	`Kalroth`	`Said the plumber, still plumbing, "It's me."`
`09:45.49`	`Antiarc`	`Hahah`
`09:46.08`	`cladhaire`	`brb`
`09:46.14`	`ramoz`	`if you reveres health bars it doesnt reverse the fading =(`
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`09:47.19`	`ramoz`	`same with powerbars`
`09:47.29`	`Antiarc`	`....oh ew ew ew ew ew.`
`09:47.34`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:47.34`	`Antiarc`	`whose periods were really quite stable.`
`09:47.34`	`Antiarc`	`And every full moon,`
`09:47.34`	`Antiarc`	`she'd get out a spoon`
`09:47.35`	`Antiarc`	`and drink herself under the table.`
`09:47.51`	`Antiarc`	`You're all welcome for that mental image. Misery loves company.`
`09:48.20`	`cladhaire`	`hahahaha`
`09:48.57`	`Kalroth`	`hahaha`
`09:49.35`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`o.O`
`09:49.51`	`ramoz`	`oh, now i got a error`
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`09:52.41`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61412 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: frFR Update`
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`09:56.23`	`Orionshock`	`^^ lol, not even live and it has it's translations done :D`
`09:57.18`	`Thrae`	`Do you get Marks of Honour Hold just by capturing World PvP objectives and killing the other faction in World PvP areas, or only if you have a quest first?`
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`10:05.59`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61414 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua):`
`10:05.59`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`10:05.59`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding first PiBull_MetLayout.lua frFR localization`
`10:05.59`	`CIA-12`	`- or {}`
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`10:07.28`	`Zhinjio`	`~seen tekkub`
`10:07.29`	`purl`	`tekkub is currently on #wowhead (2h 42m 56s) #wowace (2h 42m 56s) #wowwiki (2h 42m 56s), last said: 'tweak the RollOnLoot second arg accordingly'.`
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`10:07.41`	`Zhinjio`	`Tekkub: ping`
`10:07.48`	`Tekkub`	`what`
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`10:08.19`	`Zhinjio`	`do you have time for a TourGuide question? if I'm bugging you, I'll jsut work it out on my own.`
`10:08.42`	`Tekkub`	`depend on how stupid of a question`
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`10:09.45`	`Zhinjio`	`I see the TourGuide_Alliance and _Horde directories in the toc, are they also hardcoded into the plugin itself, or ... if I add in the change tot he TOC, the Guide.xml file and the directory's own TOC, will it recognize another directory/guideset?`
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`10:10.23`	`Tekkub`	`don't fuck with those if you're making a different guide, just make a new addon reqdep'd to TG`
`10:10.36`	`Zhinjio`	`aha.`
`10:10.49`	`Zhinjio`	`makes sense. I hadn't thought of that. THank you.`
`10:11.47`	`Zhinjio`	`Its an excellent addon, btw. THanks for the work on it.`
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`10:12.16`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`10:12.44`	`Codayus_`	`Hm`
`10:12.57`	`Codayus_`	`I'm not sure I've thanked you for TG.`
`10:13.06`	`Codayus_`	`Thanks for TG, it's the coolest addon ever made.`
`10:13.11`	`Codayus_`	`There, now I have.`
`10:13.27`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61415 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: frFR Update`
`10:13.41`	`Tekkub`	`pfft, stop sucking up and write an ally dustwallow guide for me`
`10:13.49`	`Tekkub`	`I have nothing that level to test with`
`10:14.47`	`Codayus_`	`Hm, I might...`
`10:17.05`	`Recluse`	`these c:\programfiles\wow\WoW-x-to-x-downloader\|patch.exe files are not needed, right? (was thinking of backing them up and removing them from hard drive)`
`10:17.40`	`Tekkub`	`have you applied them?`
`10:17.48`	`Recluse`	`my game is up to date, yes`
`10:18.01`	`Tekkub`	`then you don't need them, just backup your wow folder`
`10:18.08`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Hey, how do you set your Hearthstone using teksGossipSkip?`
`10:18.14`	`Tekkub`	`copy it back to restore, better'n full install and patching`
`10:18.43`	`Tekkub`	`Thrae, uh shift? I don't know that's basically abandoned as of one or two patches ago`
`10:18.54`	`Tekkub`	`forget which fixed all the stupid gossips`
`10:19.02`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Heh`
`10:19.03`	`Tekkub`	`"yea, don't care, Winterspring"`
`10:19.04`	`Recluse`	`right :) just wanted to make sure if i backed up and removed them that WoW wouldn't try to re-download 'em lol`
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`10:19.51`	`Tekkub`	`Worf is ribbed for _MY_ pleasure`
`10:22.42`	`Diao`	`hm`
`10:22.44`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61416 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0: frFR Update`
`10:22.45`	`Diao`	`hunter is so easy to play D:`
`10:22.49`	`Diao`	`or at least level`
`10:23.43`	`Thrae`	`So, does anyone know anything about Zangramarsh PvP?`
`10:24.11`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`what about it?`
`10:24.14`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61417 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua:`
`10:24.14`	`CIA-12`	`LibRock-1.0:`
`10:24.14`	`CIA-12`	`- coller -> collez`
`10:24.14`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding tsvn:logtemplate`
`10:24.35`	`Thrae`	`How do you get Marks from doing Zangramarsh PvP objectives?`
`10:24.42`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you dont`
`10:24.51`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`other than from killing near the towers`
`10:25.11`	`Thrae`	`Oh, so only Hellfire?`
`10:25.24`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`best way to get it`
`10:25.48`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61418 10LibRock-1.0/:`
`10:25.48`	`CIA-12`	`LibRock-1.0:`
`10:25.48`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding tsvn:logtemplate, i said -_-'`
`10:25.55`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`unless your server still does world pvp`
`10:27.16`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61419 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:`
`10:27.16`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-2.0:`
`10:27.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Added Warlock module. It's probably overpowered.`
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`10:27.58`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61420 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:`
`10:27.58`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-2.0:`
`10:27.58`	`CIA-12`	`- Add detection for Wild Magic debuff (Kalecgos encounter)`
`10:28.45`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61421 10BigWigs/ (46 files in 9 dirs): BigWigs: Prototype: Added :Enrage convenience function to the module prototype, and use it in most boss modules.`
`10:29.07`	xyu`	`How do i do "clustering" in routes?`
`10:29.34`	xyu`	`I don't see this option :(`
`10:29.35`	`nevcairiel`	`you hit the cluster button`
`10:30.19`	xyu`	`It is hiding then.`
`10:30.31`	`nevcairiel`	`select the route in the options`
`10:30.41`	`nevcairiel`	`on the same page as the optimize button`
`10:31.28`	xyu`	`i see "Extra optimization" "foreground" and "background"`
`10:31.35`	xyu`	`those are the only 3 options in "Optimize route"`
`10:31.40`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61422 10Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua: Threat-2.0: Re-add FD to the hunter module. Looks like no 2.4 love for us. :(`
`10:32.15`	`vithos`	`what's that mean, no 2.4 love for us?`
`10:32.26`	`nevcairiel`	xyu`: still using Cartographer_Routes?
`10:32.28`	`Antiarc`	`We don't get per-mob resist messages`
`10:32.35`	`vithos`	`argghhhhh`
`10:32.39`	`Antiarc`	`So if we get any resist the FD is considered "failed" for all targets`
`10:32.41`	`nevcairiel`	xyu`: update to trunk/Routes then :P
`10:32.42`	`vithos`	`horrible`
`10:32.44`	xyu`	`nevcairiel: oops, i see it now. yes i am. I didn't notice routes had a standalone :)`
`10:32.45`	`Antiarc`	`yeah :/`
`10:32.55`	xyu`	`thanks ^^`
`10:33.06`	`vithos`	`but i guess it doesn't matter since FD can fail without resisting anyway`
`10:33.17`	`Grum`	`which is even worse`
`10:33.19`	`Grum`	`its kinda random`
`10:33.20`	xyu`	`Like when you turn your mouse and FD? :D`
`10:33.47`	`vithos`	`yes, when i interrupt my own instant cast.`
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`10:34.06`	`Zhinjio`	`ok, I'm impressed.`
`10:34.26`	xyu`	`Why thank you`
`10:34.30`	xyu`	`It was nothing`
`10:34.34`	`Wobin`	`I was having a horrible time with Invisibility today`
`10:34.49`	`Wobin`	`if someone casts something on you while you're going invisible, does it cancel the effect?`
`10:35.02`	`nevcairiel`	`if that something does dmg, yes`
`10:35.07`	`Wobin`	`or heals`
`10:35.09`	`nevcairiel`	`if not, not sure`
`10:35.13`	`nevcairiel`	`healing should be fine`
`10:35.21`	`Wobin`	`it must have been the damage`
`10:35.28`	xyu`	`maybe lifebloom would`
`10:35.31`	`Wobin`	`bah, I was hoping it would work anyway`
`10:35.34`	xyu`	`since it's considered you casting it?`
`10:35.37`	`nevcairiel`	`any hostile spell will cancel it`
`10:35.38`	`nevcairiel`	`i guess`
`10:35.44`	`Wobin`	`That sucks =(`
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`10:35.53`	`Wobin`	`Or rather, means I'll have to invis a whole lot earlier =P`
`10:35.53`	xyu`	`yes any hostile for sure.`
`10:36.03`	xyu`	`sometimes that backfires`
`10:36.07`	`Xinhuan`	`Character Copy Success!`
`10:36.13`	xyu`	`i always try to invis and be invis while the last person in the raid dies`
`10:36.13`	`Xinhuan`	`Xinhuan from Blackrock (PvP) to Test Server (US PVP) (PvP)`
`10:36.15`	`Xinhuan`	`GOGO`
`10:36.21`	`Xinhuan`	`(queue is 3 days)`
`10:36.25`	`nevcairiel`	`pvp?`
`10:36.26`	`Wobin`	`I was in a fiveman`
`10:36.26`	xyu`	`I'm getting so good at invis i've even invis'ed during vash. :P`
`10:36.27`	`nevcairiel`	`thats so stupid`
`10:36.31`	`Wobin`	`and was invising out of Iceblock`
`10:36.46`	`Xinhuan`	`yes nevcairiel? i play on pvp servers`
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`10:36.53`	`nevcairiel`	`but pvp PTR?`
`10:37.01`	`nevcairiel`	`you wont survive 5 minutes on the sunwell island`
`10:37.41`	`Xinhuan`	`yes i will :)`
`10:37.46`	`Xinhuan`	`been there done it`
`10:37.49`	`Xinhuan`	`for other patches`
`10:37.52`	xyu`	`He won't survive the queue.`
`10:37.54`	`Xinhuan`	`like 2.3, 2.2, etc`
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`10:38.01`	xyu`	`http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html`
`10:38.07`	xyu`	`whatcha waitin fooorrr`
`10:38.08`	`Xinhuan`	`the pvp server is always on LOW pop, while the pve one is always HIGH`
`10:38.11`	`Xinhuan`	`on the PTRs`
`10:38.15`	`Xinhuan`	`dunno if you ever noticed that!`
`10:38.19`	`Xinhuan`	`(i always copy to both servers anyway)`
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`10:44.07`	`Diao`	`gotta love how hunters and rogues are so stupidly buffed now`
`10:44.26`	`Antiarc`	`Rogues are stupidly buffed?`
`10:45.11`	`Grum`	`hunters buffed?`
`10:45.30`	`Diao`	`playing a pally atm`
`10:45.31`	`Thorgard`	`I must've missed something!`
`10:45.32`	`Diao`	`i can't get a single heal off`
`10:45.34`	`Diao`	`against a rogue`
`10:45.41`	`Diao`	`all i can do is holy shock`
`10:45.43`	`Antiarc`	`That's not really any recent buff`
`10:45.48`	`Antiarc`	`That's just a rogue that learned2play`
`10:45.51`	`Thorgard`	`That's what your bubble's for. ;P`
`10:45.51`	`Diao`	`well`
`10:45.54`	`Diao`	`um`
`10:45.58`	`Diao`	`i ran from bottom of blade's edge`
`10:46.03`	`Diao`	`up the bridge with freedom`
`10:46.08`	`Diao`	`rogue just lolsteps to me`
`10:46.11`	`Diao`	`and kidneyshots`
`10:46.12`	`Diao`	`:\`
`10:46.20`	`Diao`	`that shit is so op`
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`10:46.31`	`Antiarc`	`Hahah, shadowstep, okay, that explains it`
`10:46.38`	`Diao`	`even warriors can't teleport from the bottom of an arena`
`10:46.43`	`Antiarc`	`Shadowstep is pretty awesome`
`10:46.47`	`Diao`	`to the middle of a bridge to kill me`
`10:46.50`	`Diao`	`and`
`10:46.57`	`Diao`	`arcane shot dealing magical damage while dispelling is fucking bs :P`
`10:47.06`	`Diao`	`1700 crit on 18k armor and dispelling bop gg`
`10:47.30`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Diao: you need to learn how to bait kicks`
`10:47.36`	`Diao`	`uh`
`10:47.36`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`to deal with rogues`
`10:47.38`	`Diao`	`i do bait`
`10:47.43`	`Diao`	`except 90% of the time`
`10:47.46`	`Diao`	`the rogues are too slow`
`10:47.53`	`Diao`	`and kick literally RIGHT after the bait`
`10:47.55`	`Grum`	`so 90% of the time you are too fast`
`10:48.04`	`Diao`	`plus rogues do too much damage for me to bait most of the time`
`10:48.07`	`Diao`	`my health drops insanely fast`
`10:48.13`	`Diao`	`i can tank a warrior for about 10x longer than a rogue`
`10:48.18`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`then your partner needs ot learn how to support you`
`10:48.19`	`Megalon`	`Diao: clear case of being outplayed!`
`10:48.25`	`Diao`	`uh`
`10:48.29`	`Diao`	`warrior partner can't really "support"`
`10:48.33`	`Diao`	`he gets 1 disarm per min`
`10:48.35`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`sure they can`
`10:48.36`	xyu`	`you're doing 2's on a pally?`
`10:48.37`	xyu`	`bad move :P`
`10:48.39`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`10:48.40`	`Diao`	`well`
`10:48.46`	`Diao`	`not much choice :P`
`10:48.49`	`Diao`	`and yeah pally is terrible for 2s`
`10:48.52`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`in fact, what is your warrior even attacking?`
`10:48.57`	`Diao`	`he stays on the rogue`
`10:49.07`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`so its just an outlasting competition`
`10:49.13`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`10:49.16`	`Diao`	`except his damage on rogue`
`10:49.19`	`Diao`	`is less than rogue's damage on me`
`10:49.20`	`Diao`	`:\`
`10:49.28`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`then your warrior partner sucks`
`10:49.33`	xyu`	`or your resil sucks`
`10:49.34`	`Diao`	`not really`
`10:49.38`	`Antiarc`	`yeah, your warrior sucks`
`10:49.39`	`Diao`	`350 resil`
`10:49.42`	`Diao`	`uhh`
`10:49.43`	`Antiarc`	`Warriors eat rogues for breakfast`
`10:49.46`	`Antiarc`	`Even with full resil`
`10:49.46`	`Diao`	`rofl no`
`10:49.49`	`Diao`	`i have a warrior too`
`10:49.52`	`Diao`	`i play with a druid now`
`10:49.56`	`Diao`	`rogue/disc priest rapes us`
`10:49.57`	`Antiarc`	`I have a warrior and rogue, both 70`
`10:49.58`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`a warrior should be able to pressure the rogue enough for him to play defensively`
`10:50.13`	`Diao`	`i can never beat a good rogue`
`10:50.13`	`Diao`	`ever`
`10:50.16`	`Diao`	`no matter the circumstances`
`10:50.22`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`skill issue then`
`10:50.26`	`Diao`	`no`
`10:50.28`	`Diao`	`class issue`
`10:50.31`	`Grum`	`rogue have a bit too many tricks tbh`
`10:50.34`	`mort`	`skill issue`
`10:50.36`	`Diao`	`i've got a 70 of each class lol`
`10:50.41`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`theres absolutely no reason why you can't heal yourself`
`10:50.41`	`Diao`	`i can dominate warriors all day on my rogue`
`10:50.41`	`Grum`	`you have no life!`
`10:50.43`	xyu`	`rouges can cheap warriors though in 1v1 arena. apply dots vanish`
`10:50.45`	`Grum`	`~fail Diao`
`10:50.45`	`purl`	`Diao: Fail.`
`10:50.49`	xyu`	`run away`
`10:50.49`	`Antiarc`	`Rogue/disc priest is going to be a seriously tough combo because of mass dispell`
`10:50.54`	xyu`	`return, apply dots, vanish.`
`10:50.59`	`Diao`	`the problem with rogues right now is`
`10:51.03`	`Diao`	`they can bruteforce a warrior face to face`
`10:51.06`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: mass dispell kinda sucks tbh`
`10:51.13`	`Antiarc`	`Diao: With evasion, maybe`
`10:51.16`	`Grum`	`2 normal dispells is way more effective unless you have a pallyshield :P`
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`10:51.23`	`Diao`	`well yeah`
`10:51.26`	`Diao`	`but what rogue doesn't have evasion up`
`10:51.28`	`Diao`	`during arenas`
`10:51.29`	`Antiarc`	`But that's when the warrior just drops piercing howl and intercepts the rogue's healer`
`10:51.36`	`Diao`	`uh`
`10:51.40`	`Diao`	`for lolstep rogues`
`10:51.41`	`Antiarc`	`And oh hey, snared rogue burning evasion!`
`10:51.45`	`Diao`	`i keep them hamstringed`
`10:51.49`	`Diao`	`they shiv crip on me`
`10:51.51`	`Diao`	`i intercept healer`
`10:51.53`	`Diao`	`they shadowstep me`
`10:52.03`	`Diao`	`or they burn sprint, stun me, shadowstep my druid`
`10:52.20`	`Antiarc`	`Thing about rogues is that you just have to outlast their cooldowns`
`10:52.20`	`Diao`	`the worst thing is if they stick to me instead of my druid`
`10:52.23`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`why doesn't your warrior friend do the same? Take pressure off you onto themself?`
`10:52.29`	`Diao`	`uh`
`10:52.38`	`Diao`	`warriors can't really force pressure off their healer`
`10:52.42`	`Diao`	`disarm, intervene`
`10:52.44`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`sure they can`
`10:52.49`	`Diao`	`fear once per 3 min`
`10:53.05`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`they provide a little bit of cc like hamstring, then hop on the opponents healer, forcing the rogue to come and help`
`10:53.12`	`Diao`	`uh`
`10:53.15`	`Diao`	`crip > hamstring`
`10:53.22`	`Diao`	`lol`
`10:53.23`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you are a paladin`
`10:53.24`	xyu`	`freedom warrior`
`10:53.28`	`Diao`	`..`
`10:53.31`	`Diao`	`if i freedom the warr`
`10:53.34`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`cleanse`
`10:53.36`	`Diao`	`and rogue is hamstringed but attacking me`
`10:53.39`	`Diao`	`rofl`
`10:53.42`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`you have so many tools available`
`10:53.43`	`Diao`	`you guys need to plya a pally to understand`
`10:53.43`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`use them`
`10:53.44`	`Diao`	`you can't cleanse`
`10:53.47`	`Diao`	`cleanse removes wound`
`10:53.50`	xyu`	`hmm i dont kow, my pally could always out heal a rogue`
`10:53.53`	`Diao`	`if it removes crip, rogue instantly shivs again`
`10:53.56`	xyu`	`i dont even bother baiting kicks`
`10:53.57`	`Diao`	`and i get slowed right away`
`10:53.57`	`Antiarc`	`tbh, the only way a rogue should beat a warrior is if he has AR + evasion up, and the warrior doesn't have a healer`
`10:53.59`	xyu`	`i let him kick me`
`10:54.01`	xyu`	`and i still outheal him`
`10:54.28`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Diao: well, obviously the rogue can do all that all at the same time with no GCD so you should just give up and complain on the forums or on irc`
`10:54.30`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`oh woe is me`
`10:54.33`	`Diao`	`the only counter to rogue poisons are either abolish poison or poison cleanse totem`
`10:54.38`	`Diao`	`cleanse itself is absolutely worthless`
`10:54.50`	`Diao`	`plus if i waste gcds on cleanse my hp drops too fast ;\`
`10:54.59`	`Antiarc`	`Get a dwarf or gnome warrior! :V`
`10:55.05`	`Diao`	`unfortunately i'm horde`
`10:55.07`	`Antiarc`	`Hehe`
`10:55.29`	`Diao`	`i pretty much give up when i fight disc priest/shadowstep rogue in 2s on my warr too`
`10:55.36`	`Diao`	`too much pressure on druid`
`10:55.43`	`Diao`	`and i can't apply nearly the same`
`10:56.00`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Diao: all your complaints so far, are complaints about counters vs counters vs counters. All of which are worth doing and the opponent could not possibly do them all as fast as you make it sound like`
`10:56.27`	`Diao`	`basically from my experience`
`10:56.36`	`Diao`	`i cannot outheal a rogue unless i get away from them`
`10:56.39`	`Diao`	`their damage is just way too high`
`10:57.04`	`Megalon`	`Diao: so just the whole world is against you and your arena teammates? :X`
`10:57.14`	`Diao`	`well`
`10:57.21`	`nevcairiel`	`2v2 arena is unfair by design`
`10:57.21`	`nevcairiel`	`live with it`
`10:57.31`	`Diao`	`when i play on my lock it's stupidly easy`
`10:57.42`	`Diao`	`on my priest it's not too bad`
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`10:57.45`	`Diao`	`except against purging classes`
`10:58.03`	`Diao`	`i just hate 2v2ing on pally`
`10:58.11`	xyu`	`yep that's the main prob`
`10:58.11`	`thul`	`ofcourse you should not be able to outheal rogues`
`10:58.11`	`mort`	`don't play?`
`10:58.13`	`Diao`	`it's so dumb`
`10:58.17`	`thul`	`y00 st00pid`
`10:58.18`	`Diao`	`need arena points :(`
`10:58.20`	`Antiarc`	`you should try 2v2 with a resto shaman :P`
`10:58.29`	`Antiarc`	`That right there is just plain not fun`
`10:58.33`	`Diao`	`lol`
`10:58.43`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`Antiarc: better off just going elemental 2dps`
`10:58.47`	`Antiarc`	`Aens\|Superiority: Yup`
`10:58.52`	xyu`	`i mage/rogue 2's quite well`
`10:58.52`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`9 burst in 3 seconds gogo`
`10:58.55`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`9k`
`10:58.56`	`thul`	`shadowstep is great.`
`10:59.07`	`Diao`	`lol`
`10:59.11`	`thul`	`I love shadowstep-backstab-build with holy paladin in arena.`
`10:59.15`	`Diao`	`oh did i mention how dumb cheat death is`
`10:59.16`	`thul`	`but that is just me.`
`10:59.20`	`thul`	`i love cheat death :-D`
`10:59.31`	`mort`	`shadowstep has so little burst it's funny ;)`
`10:59.33`	`thul`	`cheat death, premed, prep, shadowstep, ambush-crit-boost and backstab crit boost = the win for burst`
`10:59.33`	`Diao`	`put it this way`
`10:59.36`	`thul`	`mort: erhm? :-P`
`10:59.43`	`Diao`	`rogue at 5% hp`
`10:59.45`	`Diao`	`you have 80 rage`
`10:59.47`	`Diao`	`as a warrior`
`10:59.48`	`Diao`	`what do you do?`
`10:59.54`	`nevcairiel`	`execute!`
`10:59.55`	`thul`	`Diao: you run away scraming`
`10:59.56`	`Diao`	`(your next autoswing is 2.8 sec away)`
`10:59.56`	`thul`	`:-P`
`11:00.02`	`thul`	`screaming that is.`
`11:00.03`	`Diao`	`here's what i do`
`11:00.07`	`Diao`	`spam hamstring`
`11:00.08`	`mort`	`i've never seen a shadowstep rogue doing significant damage against me`
`11:00.09`	`Diao`	`and pray`
`11:00.17`	`Diao`	`because if I MS`
`11:00.23`	`thul`	`mort: then you're blind OR haeven't faced any good ones`
`11:00.23`	`Diao`	`he will absorb the MS with cheat death`
`11:00.28`	`Diao`	`and the MS debuff does not get applied`
`11:00.30`	`Diao`	`then he gets a full heal`
`11:00.35`	`Diao`	`if i don't MS`
`11:00.37`	`thul`	`mort: on 0-res targets i do 8-9k damage the first 2 secs`
`11:00.38`	`thul`	`:-P`
`11:00.39`	`Diao`	`the MS debuff will drop off`
`11:00.45`	`Diao`	`and he will get a full heal`
`11:00.46`	`Diao`	`either way it's gg`
`11:00.47`	`mort`	`350 res`
`11:00.50`	`thul`	`on 300 res targets (cloth still) i do 5-6 damage the first 2 secs`
`11:00.52`	`thul`	`quite easily`
`11:00.56`	`thul`	`then throw in a 5 sec stun.`
`11:01.00`	`nevcairiel`	`just MS and execute, should kill him anyway =P`
`11:01.05`	`mort`	`bark skin, bear form :P`
`11:01.05`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:01.08`	`thul`	`my ambush crits for 3500 on 350 res cloth`
`11:01.09`	`Diao`	`doesn't work nev`
`11:01.12`	`Thorgard`	`I play a Shadowstep rogue.. and I hate Paladins. :(`
`11:01.14`	`Diao`	`absorb the MS`
`11:01.17`	`Diao`	`you get 50 rage left`
`11:01.23`	`Diao`	`execute crits for 80!`
`11:01.24`	`Diao`	`yay!`
`11:01.24`	`Thorgard`	`I couldn't burst my way out of a cardboard box.`
`11:01.35`	`nevcairiel`	`a 50rage execute should kill a 5% rogue? o.O`
`11:01.37`	`thul`	`Thorgard: no rogues can burst plate much :-P`
`11:01.42`	`Diao`	`not when he's got the cheat death buff nev`
`11:01.47`	`Diao`	`90% damage reduction`
`11:01.59`	xyu`	`"When two spells land with exact timing activating cheat death the spells can receive 99% reduction instead of 90%. In the past when this happened the spells were not affected by Cheat Death at all.`
`11:02.01`	xyu`	`not to mention that :P`
`11:02.05`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`11:02.06`	`Diao`	`that too`
`11:02.15`	`Diao`	`so sometimes i get to crit full rage executes for 3`
`11:02.21`	`Diao`	`it's excellent`
`11:02.53`	`nevcairiel`	`man thats so OP, its even a 100% chance when fully specced?`
`11:03.00`	`Diao`	`yeah 100%`
`11:03.04`	`Diao`	`guaranteed`
`11:03.05`	`Diao`	`every minute`
`11:03.11`	`Diao`	`and the best part is`
`11:03.16`	`thul`	`shadowsteps gives me a chance against mages that blink ahoy`
`11:03.17`	`thul`	`i love it for that alone`
`11:03.17`	`Diao`	`it takes about a minute to get the rogue down that low`
`11:03.21`	`Diao`	`to kill him`
`11:03.24`	`Diao`	`and if not`
`11:03.28`	`Diao`	`he just resets cooldowns by restealthing`
`11:03.31`	xyu`	`thul: you already had a chance`
`11:03.35`	xyu`	`it's called deadly throw /laugh`
`11:03.36`	`thul`	xyu`: neeeh
`11:03.38`	`thul`	`blink :-(`
`11:03.40`	xyu`	`just spam it`
`11:03.44`	`thul`	xyu`: erhm?
`11:03.47`	`thul`	`you know they nerfed it?`
`11:03.48`	`thul`	`right?`
`11:03.52`	xyu`	`no, what'd they do?`
`11:03.58`	`thul`	`no chain-throw`
`11:04.13`	`Thorgard`	`Need combo points for it, anyway..`
`11:04.13`	`Diao`	`1 deadly throw is enough :P`
`11:04.14`	xyu`	`it still slows, interrupts, you can't catch up to a mage w/ that?`
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`11:04.42`	`Diao`	`i understood the need for crippling to be 70% slow when rogues couldn't guarantee a cripple proc`
`11:04.50`	`Diao`	`but why now when they can keep it up indefinitely :(`
`11:04.50`	`thul`	xyu`: erhm
`11:04.52`	`thul`	`frost..`
`11:05.00`	`thul`	`they frost me`
`11:05.01`	`thul`	`all`
`11:05.01`	`thul`	`the`
`11:05.02`	`thul`	`time`
`11:05.13`	xyu`	`what's the cooldown on shadowstep?`
`11:05.15`	xyu`	`if there is one`
`11:05.44`	`Diao`	`30s`
`11:05.49`	`Diao`	`no other restrictions`
`11:06.19`	`thul`	`as i said, I love shadowstep :-P`
`11:06.21`	xyu`	`hm i'm still not too worried about rogues`
`11:06.23`	xyu`	`as a mage`
`11:06.48`	`Diao`	`rogue vs mage is a really interesting fight`
`11:06.52`	`Diao`	`on both sides`
`11:07.04`	xyu`	`it's fun`
`11:07.07`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`11:07.07`	xyu`	`in the world pvp though i pwn them`
`11:07.12`	xyu`	`netherweave net :P`
`11:07.13`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:07.15`	`Diao`	`pfft`
`11:07.16`	xyu`	`cloak of WHAT??`
`11:07.27`	`Diao`	`doesn't it only last like 2 sec`
`11:07.39`	`Thorgard`	`4-5ish`
`11:07.44`	`Diao`	`oh`
`11:07.53`	`Diao`	`anyway sub rogues are a pain in pvp`
`11:08.11`	`Diao`	`snare resist, physical avoidance, tons of cooldowns, mobility, consistent damage`
`11:08.19`	`Diao`	`i got bored of playing rogue`
`11:08.45`	`Diao`	`goign to try gearing up a hunter and see how that goes`
`11:08.48`	`Thorgard`	`I got bored of playing a Prot Warrior.. so I rolled a rogue alt.`
`11:08.50`	`Diao`	`it seems pretty op`
`11:09.09`	`Diao`	`unlimited cc on melee classes and easy kills against cloth`
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`11:10.40`	`Diao`	`maybe i should go ret on my paladin`
`11:10.42`	`Diao`	`and play 3s or something`
`11:10.54`	`Diao`	`resto sham, ret pally, ms warr sounds fun`
`11:11.09`	`vithos`	`it took me a while to figure out what you meant by unlimited cc`
`11:11.14`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:11.28`	`vithos`	`because i raid, and don't want to spend 100g/day respeccing back and forth`
`11:11.34`	`Diao`	`ah`
`11:11.37`	`Diao`	`i only raid on my warrior`
`11:11.52`	`vithos`	`i really hate the whole respec system`
`11:11.56`	`Diao`	`every other char i pvp exclusively so i leave them pvp specced`
`11:12.05`	`Diao`	`agreed`
`11:12.25`	`Diao`	`i mean i'm glad they put in daily quests to help pay for respecs`
`11:12.30`	`Diao`	`but spending all that time just to respec is dumb`
`11:12.37`	`vithos`	`yeah.`
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`11:12.48`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`11:12.54`	`mort`	`ack, that's one reason why i play a resto druid ;)`
`11:13.00`	`Diao`	`resto druids have to respec too ;o`
`11:13.04`	`Diao`	`well ideally`
`11:13.05`	`mort`	`i don't`
`11:13.06`	`vithos`	`feral charge?`
`11:13.15`	`Diao`	`1x/11/3x for pvp`
`11:13.18`	`Diao`	`0/0/61 for pve`
`11:13.21`	`mort`	`i play with 13/0/48`
`11:13.28`	`Diao`	`no feral charge is painful :(`
`11:13.29`	`mort`	`0/0/61 for pve is jsut wrong`
`11:13.31`	`vithos`	`do you arena with that?`
`11:13.39`	`mort`	`i play arena with that`
`11:13.52`	`Diao`	`everyone i know goes full resto for pve lol`
`11:14.06`	`vithos`	`the resto druid i arena with doesn't go full resto for pve`
`11:14.10`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`there is absolutely no reason to spec into feral or balance for pve.`
`11:14.11`	`mort`	`if you put points in ht talents you should burn in hell`
`11:14.12`	`Recluse`	`iyo: best in-game, hidable, notepadish addon w/lua and\|or /script support?`
`11:14.26`	`Diao`	`omnibus?`
`11:14.36`	`Diao`	`that's what i use anyhow`
`11:14.38`	`Xinhuan`	`[Guild] [Someone]: what's a good bar addon? i just reformatted my PC`
`11:14.49`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:14.49`	`Xinhuan`	`[Guild] [Someoneelse]: Bongos2 or Bartender3?`
`11:14.55`	`Xinhuan`	`[Guild] [Someone]: Whatos2?`
`11:14.59`	`mort`	`you don't need 61 talent points in restoration for pve`
`11:15.00`	`Recluse`	`Diao: never tried it lol - it's good?`
`11:15.02`	`Xinhuan`	`[Guild] [Someoneelse]: huh?`
`11:15.03`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`mort: what could you possibly spec for in balance or feral while still having the 41 talent + supporting talents?`
`11:15.08`	`Diao`	`it's nice, yeah`
`11:15.14`	`Xinhuan`	`[Guild] [Someoneelse2]: What, wow filters out Bong?`
`11:15.18`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`11:15.20`	`Diao`	`13 in balance i assume is the standard arena`
`11:15.21`	`Diao`	`lmao`
`11:15.23`	`vithos`	`rofl Xinhuan`
`11:15.24`	`Thorgard`	`Xinhuan, that's awesome. ;P`
`11:15.25`	`mort`	`balance up to natures reach/insect swarm`
`11:15.32`	`jy`	`mort: i used to play also with 13/0/xx`
`11:15.43`	`jy`	`that works well`
`11:15.55`	`Diao`	`don't know how you guys can live without feral charge`
`11:15.58`	`Diao`	`i abuse it nonstop on my druid`
`11:16.20`	`mort`	`it doesn't fit my style of play`
`11:16.24`	`vithos`	`i think the druid i play with takes balance talents in his pve spec for farming, and then takes feral charge for arena`
`11:16.42`	`Diao`	`either 11/11/39 or 13/11/37 is standard for arena atm`
`11:16.58`	`Diao`	`choice of NR or more points in empowered rejuv`
`11:17.05`	`CIA-12`	`03ammo * r61423 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: bugfix 'end' in prototype`
`11:17.19`	`mort`	`13/0/48 has everything in restoration i could ever need while raiding and 13 points in balance gives some utility`
`11:17.28`	`jy`	`mmh actually thats 7/0/xxx i play`
`11:17.46`	`vithos`	`but personally i refuse to respec for pvp. i already hate the game enough as it is without even more grinding just for that`
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`11:18.23`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:18.23`	`Worf`	`agreed ... pvp did ruin the game enough allready`
`11:18.35`	`CIA-12`	`03ammo * r61424 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Brutallus - remove unused commonwords locale`
`11:18.37`	`vithos`	`i mean, what's the point of the respec costing so much anyway`
`11:18.37`	`Diao`	`i don't see what talents you can skip in resto for pve raiding`
`11:18.39`	`Diao`	`to only get 48`
`11:18.42`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61425 10Recount/Tracker.lua:`
`11:18.43`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`11:18.43`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed bug when a combatant died as his first combat log entry.`
`11:18.52`	`mort`	`everything related to healing touch`
`11:19.11`	`Bruners`	`how can i make recount not record data when in battlegrounds?`
`11:19.39`	`Diao`	`still 51 in resto o_O`
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`11:19.53`	`mort`	`you skip naturalist, tranquil spirit, empowered touch, imp. tranq. and furor`
`11:19.53`	`Diao`	`and that's leaving out natural perfection`
`11:20.02`	`vithos`	`i'm effectively punished by blizzard for raiding when i pvp`
`11:20.08`	`Diao`	`skip imp tranq?`
`11:20.10`	`Diao`	`O_o`
`11:20.23`	`Diao`	`i guess different playstyle`
`11:20.24`	`nevcairiel`	`imp tranq is useless`
`11:20.24`	`mort`	`why on earth would you need an aggro reduce on that?`
`11:20.26`	`nevcairiel`	`in pve`
`11:20.33`	`Diao`	`because tranq generates HUGE threat?`
`11:20.34`	`nevcairiel`	`1/0/60 for me :P`
`11:20.42`	`nevcairiel`	`when do you really use tranq?`
`11:20.43`	`mort`	`your tank must suck then`
`11:20.43`	`Diao`	`like`
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`11:20.46`	`Diao`	`massive insane threat`
`11:20.50`	`Diao`	`aoe pulls`
`11:20.54`	`Olison`	`guys, how similar is TCL to LUA?`
`11:20.54`	`krka`	`Olison: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.`
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`11:21.02`	`mort`	`aoe pulls = spam the prot pala`
`11:21.07`	`Diao`	`don't have a prot pally :(`
`11:21.10`	`Antiarc`	`LUA`
`11:21.12`	`Diao`	`probably should get one`
`11:21.15`	`Antiarc`	`LUA?`
`11:21.18`	`nevcairiel`	`Antiarc: flood protected`
`11:21.20`	`Diao`	`think it's on a timer`
`11:21.21`	`Antiarc`	`Bah.`
`11:21.32`	`mort`	`i use tranq on bloodboil to help the coh priest out but thats it`
`11:21.33`	`vithos`	`sucks4u not having a prot pally`
`11:21.49`	`vithos`	`they're awesome`
`11:21.52`	`nevcairiel`	`i use tranq ion bloodboil when i get felrage`
`11:21.54`	`nevcairiel`	`and on RoS`
`11:21.56`	`nevcairiel`	`but thats about it`
`11:22.00`	`nevcairiel`	`never pulled aggro with it`
`11:22.15`	`nevcairiel`	`!c eu antonidas nevcairiel`
`11:22.18`	`ThraeBot`	`nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 9424 HP; 10265 Mana; 429 mana regen; 250 mp5; 3.96% melee crit; 698 +spell dmg; 1968 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 932 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqhy7q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32vjf8 ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 06:31:27 2008 EST ]]`
`11:22.20`	`Diao`	`ah we're not that far yet`
`11:22.24`	`Diao`	`only in ssc/tk :P`
`11:22.27`	`nevcairiel`	`still i wouldnt miss any point in restoration`
`11:22.30`	`mort`	`you can't, as long as your tank isn't a prot warrior tanking with just auto attack`
`11:22.34`	`Diao`	`using tranq on solarian`
`11:22.42`	`Diao`	`after the aoe taunts wear off`
`11:22.52`	`Diao`	`i died almost instantly lol`
`11:22.59`	`mort`	`!c eu alleria yeru`
`11:23.01`	`ThraeBot`	`mort: Yeru, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (13/0/48). 7874 HP; 8900 Mana; 371 mana regen; 188 mp5; 3.80% melee crit; 670 +spell dmg; 1972 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 49 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1440 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xo3ou ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2txqtt ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 06:32:10 2008 EST ]]`
`11:23.22`	`Diao`	`!c us blackrock kiaphas`
`11:23.24`	`ThraeBot`	`Diao: Kiaphas, Level 70 Tauren Druid (44/0/17). 8226 HP; 8375 Mana; 232 mana regen; 116 mp5; 4.60% melee crit; 253 spell crit; 35 spell hit; 800 +spell dmg; 876 +heal; 4.38% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1155 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/282348 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ae7af ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 06:32:33 2008 EST ]]`
`11:23.40`	`Diao`	`whoops, boomkin gear`
`11:23.46`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:23.46`	`nevcairiel`	`and spec`
`11:23.47`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`11:23.49`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`11:23.58`	`Elkano`	`anyone with Babble loaded from SVN willing to put in a short fix for "Babble-Zone-2.2: Translation "Magister's Terrace" does not exist."?`
`11:24.28`	`Diao`	`i might try the dreamstate build though`
`11:24.30`	`Diao`	`it seems interesting`
`11:24.36`	`nevcairiel`	`i tried it once`
`11:24.37`	`nevcairiel`	`sucks`
`11:24.53`	`nevcairiel`	`a druid needs to use his HoTs`
`11:24.57`	`nevcairiel`	`pure MT is stupid`
`11:25.00`	`nevcairiel`	`er HT`
`11:25.33`	`mort`	`rocking the healing meters with lifebloo :P`
`11:25.41`	`Diao`	`lol`
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`11:25.56`	`Diao`	`i wonder how much spellhaste will affect druid healing`
`11:26.04`	`Diao`	`rotating lifebloom stacks on more people with lowered gcd`
`11:26.16`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah well i dont really believe in that`
`11:26.18`	`Diao`	`although reducing it by enough to be significant would require a lot of spellhaste`
`11:26.24`	`Grum`	`how much peep can you keep it up on now?`
`11:26.25`	`mort`	`you need too much haste for an additional stack`
`11:26.27`	`Diao`	`and would be probably a bad idea in itemization`
`11:26.29`	`_neuron_`	`HT will be castable in tree as well wont it, might be back to spamming and canceling HT then :p`
`11:26.35`	`Diao`	`yeah it will`
`11:26.44`	`Diao`	`usually 2 stacks easily`
`11:26.55`	`Diao`	`while leaving some gcds in between for other stuff`
`11:26.57`	`nevcairiel`	`it will?`
`11:27.02`	`mort`	`i will jsut get a little bit of haste to compensate for human error while rolling 4 stacks`
`11:27.04`	`nevcairiel`	`when did they say that?`
`11:27.14`	`_neuron_`	`nevcairiel, think I saw someone on elitistjerks talk about that`
`11:27.27`	`nevcairiel`	`HT in tree was in one of those bogus notes worldofraids spread around`
`11:27.28`	`_neuron_`	`and whether or not it'll include -20% mana cost`
`11:27.29`	`nevcairiel`	`nowhere ever confirmed`
`11:27.30`	`mort`	`ht in treeform was in the fake patch notes ;)`
`11:27.36`	`Worf`	`huh? spell haste does reduce global cooldown? really?`
`11:27.36`	`_neuron_`	`ah, read it ages ago :P`
`11:27.38`	`_neuron_`	`could be wrong`
`11:27.39`	`Diao`	`in 2.4 worf`
`11:27.40`	`_neuron_`	`it will in 2.4 worf`
`11:27.41`	`Diao`	`it will`
`11:27.45`	`Worf`	`aya!`
`11:27.48`	`Worf`	`yay!`
`11:27.49`	`Diao`	`but it requires a LOT of spellhaste to get it to the minimum`
`11:27.55`	`Grum`	`until 1.0s though`
`11:27.57`	`nevcairiel`	`550 or so, i heard`
`11:28.01`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`11:28.04`	`Grum`	`so dont think of going above ~500 haste ;D`
`11:28.06`	`mort`	`780 for 1.0`
`11:28.06`	`Diao`	`basically unachievable without some insane buffs`
`11:28.13`	`Grum`	`14 per %`
`11:28.18`	`Grum`	`33% needed`
`11:28.21`	`Diao`	`trolls will be amazing though in pve now`
`11:28.24`	`Worf`	`i only need 0.1 sec faster or so so i can keep up 4 stacks instead of 3`
`11:28.24`	`Grum`	`lua> 33.3*14`
`11:28.24`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: 466.2`
`11:28.26`	`CIA-12`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61426 10Threat-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`11:28.26`	`CIA-12`	`Threat-2.0:`
`11:28.26`	`CIA-12`	`- Add pet module back in.`
`11:28.26`	`CIA-12`	`- Add self-death detection via the combat log for faster threat clearing`
`11:28.30`	`Diao`	`berserking + haste + bloodlust or icy veins = win?`
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`11:29.25`	`mort`	`oh, same realm pool nevcairiel :)`
`11:29.30`	`Diao`	`new druid 4 piece arena bonus is lol though`
`11:29.33`	`Diao`	`it got nerfed so hard :(`
`11:29.53`	`Grum`	`from what to what?`
`11:30.05`	`Diao`	`originally 15% bonus speed to all forms while outdoors (ie all arenas)`
`11:30.18`	`Diao`	`on ptr currently it is -.25s on HT cast`
`11:30.21`	`Diao`	`makes it absolutely useless`
`11:30.27`	`_neuron_`	`they are not gonna keep that :P`
`11:30.28`	`_neuron_`	`no way in hell`
`11:30.31`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:30.41`	`_neuron_`	`every druid on every realm will whine`
`11:30.42`	`mort`	`i don't care for the runspeed, just give me a useful 4pt bonus`
`11:30.44`	`Thorgard`	`I hope they do. ;P`
`11:30.50`	`Diao`	`it's amazing for 2v2 and 3v3`
`11:30.53`	`Diao`	`the runspeed that is`
`11:31.01`	`_neuron_`	`runspeed = win for pvp tbh`
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`11:31.27`	`mort`	`it sure is, i have it. but i could live without it if the bonus was something useful`
`11:31.38`	`Diao`	`like druids need any more help in pvp :P`
`11:31.41`	`Grum`	`stealth, run, instaheal, shapeshift+run, behind pillar -> ooc -> rinse and repeat`
`11:31.43`	`Diao`	`well resto*`
`11:31.47`	`Diao`	`feral and balance need help`
`11:31.50`	`mort`	`same crap as our 4pt t6 bonus`
`11:32.37`	`Grum`	`ah well, t6 bonus for affliction locks is also crap`
`11:32.40`	`Grum`	`'yay 6% more on shadowbolts'`
`11:32.59`	`mort`	`there is one fight in the entire game where i cast ht ever`
`11:33.14`	`Grum`	`it just clearly shows which specs blizzard think classes should have ;D`
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`11:34.09`	`mort`	`but you still cast shadow bolt...`
`11:34.53`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:35.02`	`Diao`	`the lock 2 piece t6 + full s3 gear`
`11:35.04`	`Diao`	`will be very painful`
`11:35.16`	`Diao`	`drain life, siphon life, and everytime corruption ticks they gain another 70`
`11:35.52`	`Grum`	`it sucks sunwell doesnt require attunement :(`
`11:36.10`	`Bruners`	`why?`
`11:36.11`	`Diao`	`not like people who aren't doing bt/mh now can do it anyway`
`11:36.15`	`Grum`	`even if it only was: kill Azgalor and RoS`
`11:36.35`	`Bruners`	`yeah right, killing ros`
`11:36.46`	`Bruners`	`id love to see guilds failing at ssc eye doing that`
`11:36.59`	`Diao`	`that's the point Bruners`
`11:37.04`	`Grum`	`my point, they should not even TRY to get into sunwel`
`11:37.06`	`Diao`	`if they can't do it they won't be able to attune sunwell :P`
`11:37.10`	`Grum`	`and get their hands on t6 gems`
`11:37.12`	`Grum`	`fek off :)`
`11:37.17`	`Thorgard`	`Is there a level requirement for Heroics?`
`11:37.21`	`Diao`	`i know my guild definitely isn't even going to try sunwell until we at least down kael/vashj`
`11:37.22`	`Grum`	`no`
`11:37.41`	`Grum`	`Diao: why not?`
`11:37.45`	`Diao`	`not that i know of Thorgard, but going pre-70 is dumb`
`11:37.51`	`Grum`	`you can kill stuff in sunwell without problems`
`11:38.08`	`Diao`	`we've only killed VR/solar/lurker/hydross so far :P`
`11:38.12`	`Grum`	`so?`
`11:38.13`	`Thorgard`	`So can you get a sub-60 into a heroic?`
`11:38.14`	`Diao`	`the easy ones :(`
`11:38.23`	`Grum`	`you can kill the first 6 bosses in BT/MH as well`
`11:38.25`	`Diao`	`if he's honored with the faction, maybe Thorgard`
`11:38.28`	`Grum`	`Thorgard: >58`
`11:38.28`	`Diao`	`oh`
`11:38.33`	`Grum`	`and honored`
`11:38.34`	`Diao`	`well we can't get keyed to bt/mh so`
`11:38.37`	`Diao`	`we don't know yet!`
`11:38.38`	`Diao`	`:P`
`11:38.43`	`Grum`	`Diao: with 2.4 you are`
`11:38.46`	`Grum`	`so that is bad imho`
`11:38.46`	`Diao`	`true`
`11:38.54`	`Diao`	`well maybe we will try it`
`11:38.55`	`Grum`	`tbh every instance should have some attunement`
`11:38.57`	`Grum`	`you should`
`11:39.01`	`Grum`	`its free loot`
`11:39.06`	`Diao`	`good loot too`
`11:39.19`	`Grum`	`BT1-3/MH1-3 are as hard as Leotheras`
`11:39.21`	`Grum`	`or Al'ar`
`11:39.26`	`Grum`	`or Morogrimm`
`11:39.29`	`Diao`	`i want those bs patterns lol`
`11:39.32`	`Diao`	`for my warr :X`
`11:39.32`	`nevcairiel`	`akama is a joke`
`11:39.35`	`Recluse`	`Grum: every, or every lv70 one?`
`11:39.37`	`Diao`	`and pally`
`11:39.56`	`Grum`	`anyone in TBC but you need to be lvl70 before you can enter 25m raids afaik`
`11:40.09`	`Grum`	`Diao: akama for example dies in less than 45 seconds`
`11:40.11`	`Diao`	`68 i believe`
`11:40.15`	`Diao`	`for 25mans`
`11:40.16`	`Grum`	`and that is the 3rd boss in BT`
`11:40.20`	`Diao`	`ah`
`11:40.25`	`Diao`	`well`
`11:40.37`	`Diao`	`i am hoping by sunwell release we will be at least full ssc/tk clear`
`11:40.38`	`Grum`	`Naj'entus is a gearcheck (healthwise)`
`11:40.53`	`Grum`	`Supremus is just Gruul gone awhole`
`11:40.57`	`Grum`	`and Akama is melee fest`
`11:41.00`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:41.13`	`Diao`	`i need a prot pally so i don't have to respec prot for raids :P`
`11:41.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`supremus is just fun`
`11:41.24`	`Grum`	`Diao: do SO want to be prot in MH`
`11:41.28`	`Grum`	`seriously`
`11:41.33`	`Diao`	`i mean`
`11:41.34`	`Diao`	`on my warrior lol`
`11:41.40`	`Grum`	`oh kek`
`11:41.42`	`Diao`	`i don't raid on my pally`
`11:42.28`	`Grum`	`i hate that Vortexes become 'buyable'`
`11:42.31`	`Elcottleto`	`for hardcoregamers is 2,4 a fuck patch but casuals are happy and Blizz only wants more money`
`11:43.04`	`Elcottleto`	`and i think there are more casuals then hardcore gamers`
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`11:43.13`	`Grum`	`yeah some changes in 2.4 should be implemented right now in a hotfix, like dropping 3 tokens instead of 2`
`11:43.25`	`Elcottleto`	`yes`
`11:43.32`	`Elcottleto`	`thats wright`
`11:43.36`	`CIA-12`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r61427 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/ (AceGUIWidget-Button.lua AceGUIWidget-Keybinding.lua): Ace3 - AceGUI: Button and Keybinding use UIPanelButtonTemplate2`
`11:43.37`	`Diao`	`my guild is casual :(`
`11:43.44`	`Diao`	`we only raid weekends`
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`11:43.54`	`Diao`	`5:30-whenever people go to bed which is usually like 9:30 or 10`
`11:43.57`	`Recluse`	`Pitbull_VisualHeal replaces _EstimatedHeal? (as in DrDamage not necessary anymore?)`
`11:44.03`	`Diao`	`yes it does Recluse`
`11:44.09`	`Diao`	`drdamage is still necessary for actionbar stuff though`
`11:44.14`	`Elcottleto`	my guild is know mh and bt but i`m casual fucking work
`11:44.18`	`Recluse`	`kk :)`
`11:44.32`	`Diao`	`i used to be hardcore`
`11:44.40`	`Diao`	`before bc.. always in server first guilds etc`
`11:44.47`	`Diao`	`now i'd rather have fun and relax ;P`
`11:44.58`	`Grum`	`i just want to clear content with people that are likeheaded`
`11:45.12`	`Elcottleto`	`yes grum sign`
`11:45.22`	`Grum`	`if want people that want to keep improving`
`11:45.29`	`Grum`	`10hr t6 clear .. we can do better!`
`11:45.34`	`Grum`	`etc`
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`11:45.45`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:45.51`	`Elcottleto`	`lol`
`11:45.51`	`Diao`	`well we are kind of like that`
`11:45.54`	`Grum`	`so we get more offdays and do fun stuff, like clearing naxx etc`
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`11:46.02`	`Diao`	`we don't raid often but when we do we're pretty serious`
`11:46.13`	`Diao`	`like within a couple months of starting kara we had it down to 3-4 hr clears usually`
`11:46.21`	`Elcottleto`	`i must go to work bye have a nice they and the Dungeongod will save us`
`11:46.24`	`Diao`	`including all optional bosses except animal`
`11:46.27`	`Diao`	`cya Elcottleto`
`11:46.30`	`Grum`	`atm we're onschedule for a 7hrs t6 clear .. \o/`
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`11:47.53`	`Grum`	`if stuff doesnt change from PTR in difficulty Sunwell should be on grind in a month as well`
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`11:48.15`	`Grum`	`so 4 raiding days for t6/sunwell i hope :)`
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`11:48.50`	`Diao`	`isn't it usually buffed from ptr a bit`
`11:49.03`	`Diao`	`since they tend to make ptr bosses a little easier for people to test out the bugs`
`11:49.16`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`11:49.19`	`Diao`	`and then it goes on live harder for about a month until people complain how hard it is, and they proceed to nerf it`
`11:49.35`	`Grum`	`at least its a new challenge ;D`
`11:49.50`	`Grum`	`atm the only challenge is not to fall apart as a guild because of boredom`
`11:49.57`	`Diao`	`honestly i'm surprised heroics haven't been nerfed yet after that change to honored requirement`
`11:50.04`	`Fisker-`	`I GOTTA PEE`
`11:50.17`	`Diao`	`thanks for letting us know`
`11:50.23`	`Grum`	`Diao: heroics nerfed?`
`11:50.25`	`Grum`	`cmon`
`11:50.29`	`Fisker-`	`np`
`11:50.34`	`Diao`	`not that they're hard`
`11:50.40`	`Diao`	`but with how easy it is to get honored`
`11:50.42`	`Diao`	`you get people in like`
`11:50.46`	`Diao`	`level 60 greens that want to go :(`
`11:51.01`	`Diao`	`not that i invite them, since i armory everyone in lfg or (usually) only go with guildies`
`11:51.32`	`Grum`	`i just dont do heroics anymore :P`
`11:51.35`	`Grum`	`why bother?`
`11:51.41`	xyu`	`i got honored w/ most instances before i even did the instance once.`
`11:51.43`	`Grum`	`'zomg 3-4 badges'`
`11:51.46`	`Bruners`	`za/kara > heroics`
`11:51.47`	`Diao`	`daily quest`
`11:51.57`	`Grum`	`i rather do 22 badges kara in ~2h15m`
`11:51.57`	`Diao`	`5-7 badges a day`
`11:52.02`	`Diao`	`yeah but that's once a week`
`11:52.04`	`Grum`	`i got 143 badges O.o`
`11:52.11`	xyu`	`i have 203 :(`
`11:52.11`	`Diao`	`i'm saving up for 2.4!`
`11:52.18`	`Diao`	`i don't know what might come next patch o:`
`11:52.21`	`Bruners`	`kara is badges and voids`
`11:52.22`	`Diao`	`since there's supposedly new badge gear`
`11:52.23`	`Fisker-`	`you should be able to buy badges from vendor for 1c each`
`11:52.23`	`Worf`	`some heroics are damn easy... recently i helped a view bluegreen freshmen in underbog ... one had to go afk for 15 minutes, and the rest of us did 1/3 of the instance, including a accidential pull of 2 groups ... they _are_ easy now :)`
`11:52.41`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61428 10PitBull/VoiceIcon/VoiceIcon.lua:`
`11:52.41`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`11:52.41`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR localization.`
`11:52.56`	`Diao`	`besides`
`11:52.59`	`Diao`	`i do heroics on my alst`
`11:53.04`	`Grum`	`hehe`
`11:53.05`	`Grum`	`horror`
`11:53.06`	`Diao`	`alts*`
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`11:53.08`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:53.11`	`Grum`	`only on mains`
`11:53.12`	`Diao`	`well`
`11:53.14`	`ccKep`	`wosh`
`11:53.15`	`Fisker-`	`this is madness`
`11:53.20`	`Thorgard`	`Then there's the heroics that require you to sacrifice someone unless you have a geared tank..`
`11:53.21`	`Grum`	`eyes close and POOOOF badges`
`11:53.24`	`Diao`	`i'm too cheap to pay for flying mount on every alt`
`11:53.30`	`Diao`	`to key them for kara`
`11:53.31`	`Bruners`	`we do gruul on alts`
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`11:53.41`	`Diao`	`next patch i won't have to do heroics at all though`
`11:53.42`	`Grum`	`gruul is actually quite unforgiving`
`11:53.45`	`Diao`	`i'll just bring alts to 25 mans`
`11:53.47`	`Diao`	`like ssc or tk`
`11:53.50`	`Diao`	`and get free badges`
`11:53.52`	`Diao`	`lol`
`11:54.01`	`Grum`	`that is what i like, badges from bosses`
`11:54.03`	`Bruners`	`i use to help a guild on my server with my paladin alt :P`
`11:54.11`	`Bruners`	`in ssc/eye`
`11:54.13`	`Grum`	`2 badges per kill right?`
`11:54.26`	`Diao`	`"hey guys i know i'm the mt but i don't feel like tanking today, gonna bring my crappy undergeared alt, our OT can MT today" :)`
`11:54.26`	`ccKep`	`any1 having a character on US ptr?`
`11:54.28`	`Grum`	`so that is 30 badges for a t6 clear :p`
`11:54.35`	`Antiarc`	`Night folks`
`11:54.39`	`Antiarc`	`It's 5 AM and I need sleep :P`
`11:54.42`	`Diao`	`night Antiarc`
`11:54.55`	`ccKep`	`n8 anti`
`11:55.06`	`Antiarc`	`...nate?`
`11:55.13`	`Grum`	`mm can you see the reset-time of instances anywhere? (EU)`
`11:55.17`	`mort`	`ssc/tk is easily doable with alts, so what ;)`
`11:55.53`	`Diao`	`see the reset time?`
`11:55.54`	`Diao`	`o_O`
`11:56.00`	`Diao`	`i wish i could say that mort :(`
`11:56.28`	`Grum`	`Diao: i just want to know on which day ZA is going to reset`
`11:56.29`	`Diao`	`oh`
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`11:56.35`	`Diao`	`yeah no idea`
`11:56.39`	`ccKep`	`event calendar on blizz page, dunno if it's still correct though`
`11:56.41`	`Diao`	`i think there might be a calendar on the site?`
`11:56.43`	`ccKep`	`was off a few days ago`
`11:56.45`	`Grum`	`ah found - http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/raidcalendar/index.html`
`11:56.49`	`Diao`	`i assume it's on the same reset as ZG`
`11:56.59`	`Grum`	`aah good tomorrow`
`11:58.06`	`ccKep`	`anyone on US PTRs able to look up how they're progressing on the daily part? (the one for expanding that shattered sun stuff)`
`11:58.51`	`Grum`	`how many quests are needed to be done btw?`
`11:58.54`	`Grum`	`50k orso?`
`11:58.58`	`Grum`	`10k ?`
`11:59.18`	`ccKep`	`dunno`
`12:00.31`	`ccKep`	`I'm interested how far they are from taking the sun's reach armory`
`12:01.21`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61429 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:`
`12:01.21`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:01.21`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR localization`
`12:02.18`	`Ozguli`	`I bet it'll be easy to find groups for sunwell stuff when they release 2.4`
`12:03.16`	`Diao`	`guild groups!`
`12:03.42`	`ccKep`	`my warrior alt needs that tanking trinket from heroic MT =)`
`12:03.58`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61430 10PitBull/ThreatBar/ThreatBar.lua:`
`12:03.58`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:03.58`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR localization`
`12:04.16`	`mort`	`my resto druid needs that too ;)`
`12:04.27`	`Ozguli`	`what trinket?`
`12:04.35`	`ccKep`	`commendation of kael'thas or how its called`
`12:04.41`	`ccKep`	`the one that got nerfed now`
`12:04.55`	`ccKep`	`http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=34473`
`12:05.09`	`ccKep`	`got nerfed to 152 dodge rating though`
`12:05.18`	`nevcairiel`	`its still awesome for 5man`
`12:05.20`	`ccKep`	`but even that is pretty hot`
`12:05.33`	`ccKep`	`considering I'm wearing the darkmoon card atm`
`12:05.59`	`ccKep`	`more stamina and a better procc =)`
`12:05.59`	`Diao`	`is wowdb the new hot thing to use`
`12:06.06`	`ccKep`	`dunno, I prefer wowhead`
`12:06.13`	`ccKep`	`but I copy/pasted that link off worldofraids.com`
`12:06.26`	`Diao`	`oh`
`12:06.27`	`Diao`	`btw`
`12:06.30`	`Diao`	`using MT is confusing :(`
`12:06.36`	`Diao`	`everyone uses it for mana tombs`
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`12:07.33`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61431 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua:`
`12:07.33`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:07.33`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`12:08.14`	`Fisker-`	`wtf`
`12:08.17`	`ccKep`	`anyone know if they fixed the ClickCastSpell stuff in the newest build?`
`12:08.21`	`Fisker-`	`they removed spell links from the combat log`
`12:08.36`	`Diao`	`spell links?`
`12:09.08`	`CIA-12`	`03onlyfly * r61432 10Enhancer/ (Enhancer.toc locale/Localization-zhCN.lua):`
`12:09.08`	`CIA-12`	`Enhancer:`
`12:09.08`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale zhCN`
`12:09.50`	`Fisker-`	`fucking bs`
`12:10.27`	`Diao`	`enhancer?`
`12:10.35`	`ccKep`	`they just removed the ability to link them afaik?`
`12:10.42`	`Fisker-`	`no`
`12:10.49`	`Fisker-`	`but there's no links in the combat log`
`12:11.02`	`Maldivia`	`tooltip:SetHyperlink("spell:1234") doesn't work anymore either?`
`12:11.03`	`Fisker-`	`some tards keep tagging my mobs`
`12:11.06`	`Diao`	`maybe it was unintended`
`12:11.22`	`Fisker-`	`that doesn't make sense :o`
`12:11.38`	`Grum`	`Does anyone know if any idemdb (allakhazam/wowdb/wowhead etc etc) have some kind of public api or even better, some kind of database-dump?`
`12:11.54`	`Maldivia`	`Fisker-: they removed the line from the patch notes aswell`
`12:12.10`	`Diao`	`doesn't wowhead have a public api`
`12:12.23`	`nevcairiel`	`combatlog raw event still gives you the id`
`12:12.36`	`Diao`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?powered`
`12:12.39`	`ccKep`	`wowhead atleast provides xml stuff`
`12:13.12`	`Maldivia`	`for xml, there's always the armory aswell`
`12:13.37`	`Diao`	`but armory is slow`
`12:13.38`	`Fisker-`	`what did they remove Maldivia? :o`
`12:13.40`	`Diao`	`wowhead isn't :P`
`12:13.49`	`Grum`	`humz that is per item`
`12:14.35`	`Fisker-`	`this quest is retarded`
`12:14.45`	`Fisker-`	`you have to channel a spell`
`12:14.48`	`Fisker-`	`and they transform`
`12:14.52`	`ccKep`	`you mean the robot thing?`
`12:14.57`	`Fisker-`	`but other people can just run in and tag the mob`
`12:15.30`	`ccKep`	`just need to be fast ;)`
`12:15.32`	`Maldivia`	`Fisker-: the line "The ability to chat-link player spells and talents. "`
`12:15.46`	`Fisker-`	`you can still link spells and talents`
`12:16.02`	`Maldivia`	`Fisker-: or perhaps it's just one of the differences between the online and offline version of the patch notes`
`12:16.57`	`Maldivia`	`in the patch notes, it's just under the combat log category`
`12:17.18`	`ccKep`	`are you playing on US Fisker-?`
`12:17.25`	`Fisker-`	`nope`
`12:17.29`	`ccKep`	`damn -.-`
`12:17.38`	`*** join/#wowace Wraanger (n=wraanger@62.105.156.51)`
`12:18.13`	`Fisker-`	`i'm guessing the sunwell->throne of kil'jaeden transport is oneway only?`
`12:18.33`	`ccKep`	`afaik yes`
`12:18.36`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, in phasse 3 there'll be a portal from shatt->sunwell`
`12:18.39`	`ccKep`	`atleast I didnt find a way back`
`12:18.40`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`12:18.45`	`Fisker-`	`that's fucking annoying`
`12:19.42`	`ccKep`	`that earth shield changes make me cry...`
`12:19.44`	`Fisker-`	`hmm`
`12:19.46`	`Fisker-`	`new area`
`12:20.07`	`Fisker-`	`the unpopulated mountain area between terokkar and hellfire have ravagers now`
`12:20.19`	`Fisker-`	`seems like there might be a quest there as well`
`12:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`because the script isn't accepting it`
`12:21.30`	`*** join/#wowace elaa (n=ela@p54B4EDE3.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`12:21.44`	`break19`	`any why might that be?`
`12:21.47`	`ccKep`	`hey, they fixed ClickCastSpell in current PTR build`
`12:21.53`	`break19`	`s/any/any idea/`
`12:21.55`	`ccKep`	`clickcasting possible again =)`
`12:22.34`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`12:22.37`	`Fisker-`	`they made primal nethers boe`
`12:22.51`	`ccKep`	`nether vortex too afaik`
`12:23.22`	`*** join/#wowace Baldor_work (n=vantienh@53575CD8.cable.casema.nl)`
`12:23.42`	`Kalroth_`	`yup`
`12:23.46`	`break19`	`nether=boe? man.. that's gonna put a dent in those 200g+mats epic recipes...`
`12:23.47`	`Maldivia`	`ccKep: cheer`
`12:23.50`	`CIA-12`	`03isler * r61433 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhCN.lua:`
`12:23.50`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`12:23.50`	`CIA-12`	`- zhCN update`
`12:23.57`	`Kalroth_`	`break19: You can buy vortices now.`
`12:24.12`	`Kalroth_`	`"You can now buy [Nether Vortex] from G'eras for 15 badges and 7 gold"`
`12:24.32`	`Fisker-`	`ah damnit`
`12:24.45`	`Fisker-`	`error 132 crash when changing volume :i`
`12:24.51`	`break19`	`ok. that means nothing to me.. never seen, nor needed a nether vortex`
`12:25.06`	`ccKep`	`blacksmithing alts will cheer :)`
`12:25.10`	`break19`	`Fisker-: any idea why the script is ignoring my addon?`
`12:25.12`	`Kalroth_`	`break19: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30183#reagent-for`
`12:25.15`	`*** join/#wowace Lemming2K (n=winblock@port-83-236-58-84.dynamic.qsc.de)`
`12:25.26`	`ccKep`	`helps them crafting their tier3 weapon`
`12:25.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`and now ill have people pissed i wont get badges so i can make them belts of blasting`
`12:25.57`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-115-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)`
`12:25.57`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`12:26.00`	`Fisker-`	`break19 usually it is poorly named files`
`12:26.04`	`Kalroth_`	`Arrowmaster: uh, the vortex will be BoE`
`12:26.06`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61434 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Collapse API.`
`12:26.13`	`Kalroth_`	`Arrowmaster: So they can get the damn badges themselves.`
`12:26.15`	`Fisker-`	`if your addon is "YourAddon" it expects YourAddon.toc and not youraddon.toc`
`12:26.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`really? theyre changing nether vortexes to boe? what about primal nethers?`
`12:26.35`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61435 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Update API change`
`12:26.43`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61436 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Update API change`
`12:26.44`	`break19`	`meh. i missed a capital letter.`
`12:26.46`	`Kalroth_`	`[13:20] <Fisker-> they made primal nethers boe`
`12:26.49`	`Fisker-`	`just said primal nethers are boe`
`12:26.49`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61437 10HandyNotes_Stables/addon.lua: Update API change`
`12:26.51`	`Kalroth_`	`Arrowmaster ^^`
`12:26.58`	`break19`	`thnx fisker`
`12:26.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow`
`12:27.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`just wow`
`12:27.24`	`Kalroth_`	`Arrowmaster: Riding the wave of casualizing!`
`12:27.36`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61438 10PitBull/RestIcon/RestIcon.lua:`
`12:27.36`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:27.36`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`12:27.39`	`Kalroth_`	`Also raid bosses will drop badges too now.`
`12:27.42`	`Fisker-`	`i think it's a good choice`
`12:27.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`well i guess i can make more tailoring stuff considering i think im the only person on my server with all 6 BoE epic tailoring patterns`
`12:27.46`	`Xinhuan`	`in 6 months time, i expect to see Hearts of Darknesses available for 30 badges and 12g80s OK?`
`12:27.55`	`ccKep`	`really looking forward if there will be some new badge of justice stuff as the shattered sun post expands`
`12:28.01`	`Fisker-`	`because it's somewhat lame that non-raid recipes require raid reagents`
`12:28.06`	`Kalroth_`	`ccKep: There will be, trust me. :)`
`12:28.06`	`Fisker-`	`:O Kalroth_ ?`
`12:28.07`	`Fisker-`	`sauce`
`12:28.10`	`Kalroth_`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/plateaubadge.jpg`
`12:28.25`	`Fisker-`	`cool`
`12:28.30`	`ccKep`	`expecting it in the sun's reach armory, atleast some weapon stuff`
`12:28.37`	`ccKep`	`but I'm hoping for some armor too`
`12:28.38`	`Fisker-`	`should drop more though`
`12:28.56`	`Kalroth_`	`Fisker-: Naw, it'll be like 10 man instances; 2 badges on initial bosses, 3 on later ones.`
`12:29.12`	`Kalroth_`	`It's plenty imo. Black Temple got 9 bosses, that's over 20 badges for a clear.`
`12:29.12`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`12:29.19`	`*** join/#wowace Poul\|Raider (n=jedirc@82.211.215.198)`
`12:29.19`	`Fisker-`	`but there isn't 10 bosses like in karazhan`
`12:29.33`	`Xinhuan`	`12 technically`
`12:29.38`	`Kalroth_`	`No, but now you don't need to farm Karazhan for badges anymore.`
`12:29.45`	`Wobin`	`You can farm ZA`
`12:29.53`	`Kalroth_`	`No, but now you don't need to farm ZA for badges anymore.`
`12:29.55`	`Kalroth_`	`:)`
`12:29.57`	`Xinhuan`	`it means i can sell my 409 heroic badges`
`12:30.04`	`Kalroth_`	`Xinhuan: Jesus christ`
`12:30.04`	`Wobin`	`Xinhuan: Nether Vortex!`
`12:30.06`	`Xinhuan`	`in my bank`
`12:30.12`	`Wobin`	`Well duh`
`12:30.14`	`Wobin`	`Xin's a JC`
`12:30.15`	`Kalroth_`	`Xinhuan: What the fuck have you been farming?`
`12:30.16`	`Xinhuan`	`using up 3 bank slots`
`12:30.28`	`Xinhuan`	`i dont' know, i've just being doing heaps of za, kara and shit`
`12:30.30`	`Fisker-`	`just be a paladin`
`12:30.30`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`12:30.36`	`Xinhuan`	`on top of killing bt/hyjal ~_~`
`12:30.37`	`Fisker-`	`no badges needed`
`12:30.46`	`Kalroth_`	`Xinhuan: You need to tank the fire elementals!`
`12:30.55`	`Kalroth_`	`That's 100 badges alone.`
`12:31.01`	`Xinhuan`	`and then the guild's like "hey lets go do heroic daily, i need 14 more badges for this [offspec gear]"`
`12:31.04`	`Xinhuan`	`and i'm like`
`12:31.06`	`Xinhuan`	`oh ok, i'll come`
`12:31.22`	`Kalroth_`	`Xinhuan: No more though, not when they drop from 25 man instances.`
`12:31.33`	`Wraanger`	`omfg .. I wish I had that much badges =( i am sitting at like 5-6 now )`
`12:31.45`	`Xinhuan`	`i've also sold about 30-50 Surefooted enchants`
`12:31.46`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61439 10PitBull/ReputationBar/ReputationBar.lua:`
`12:31.46`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:31.46`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`12:32.00`	`Xinhuan`	`so that's like another 300-500 or so badges`
`12:32.42`	`*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5731db0c.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`12:33.04`	`Fisker-`	`surefooted?`
`12:33.07`	`Fisker-`	`people really want that? :o`
`12:33.16`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan has 36 hrs in a normal day btw`
`12:33.54`	`Lukian`	`snare resist is awesome for pvp isn't it?`
`12:34.02`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( the day has 24 hours. If that's not enough we also use the night )`
`12:34.41`	`Fisker-`	`never seen anyone ask for surefooted`
`12:34.46`	`ccKep`	`EU PvE PTR is 94% away from sun's reach armory, damnit`
`12:34.53`	`Kalroth_`	`ccKep :D`
`12:34.55`	`ccKep`	`that'll take another week`
`12:34.56`	`Fisker-`	`done a lot of boar's speed though`
`12:35.04`	`Fisker-`	`owned`
`12:35.06`	`Kalroth_`	`Now I just need my character copied and I'll boost it!`
`12:35.09`	`Fisker-`	`who are you on ptr?`
`12:35.16`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61440 10PitBull/RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua:`
`12:35.16`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:35.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`12:35.17`	`Kalroth_`	`me?`
`12:35.18`	`ccKep`	`me?`
`12:35.23`	`Kalroth_`	`Fisker sucks!`
`12:35.37`	`ccKep`	`D�ie`
`12:35.48`	`Fisker-`	`ALLIANCE`
`12:35.49`	`Kalroth_`	`Fisker-: Dit ejefald er v�rre end en t�snegl i regnen.`
`12:35.49`	`Fisker-`	`DIE`
`12:36.02`	`Kalroth_`	`I'm Kalroth (of course) and horde (of course).`
`12:36.09`	`ccKep`	`draenei shaman ^.^`
`12:36.20`	`Fisker-`	`i'm the guy who can't spell Leonidas`
`12:36.28`	`Fisker-`	`called it Leonida :<`
`12:36.28`	`Grum`	`ccKep: how many dailies do they have to do?`
`12:36.41`	`ccKep`	`dunno`
`12:37.04`	`ccKep`	`I don't even know if the dailies from stage 1 are counted towards capturing the armory`
`12:37.13`	`ccKep`	`(eg. the convert-robot-stuff)`
`12:37.25`	`Fisker-`	`i don't get it though`
`12:37.27`	`Grum`	`all of em should i think`
`12:37.49`	`Fisker-`	`They have a very powerful mage just a couple of feet away from the operation trying to make a portal to the sunwell`
`12:37.51`	`nevcairiel`	`anyone got a quick link to that combatlog SV recorder for 2.4?`
`12:38.06`	`ccKep`	`yesterday eu pve captured the sanctum, 20hrs later now its just 6% on the armory..`
`12:38.17`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61441 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua:`
`12:38.17`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`12:38.18`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`12:39.39`	`Fisker-`	`according to some sources Blizzard intends a 40 day period from day 1 to a full base and kil'jaeden available`
`12:40.32`	`ccKep`	`how many gates are in SW25? 3?`
`12:40.34`	`JoshBorke`	`you think they are speeding it up for PTR?`
`12:40.43`	`ccKep`	`nevcairiel: maybe http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11294.msg178718 helps`
`12:41.12`	`ccKep`	`3rd post or so`
`12:41.25`	`nevcairiel`	`found it already, but thanks`
`12:41.50`	`CIA-12`	`03break19 * r61442 10FuBar_HBFu/ (FuBar_HBFu.toc Fubar_HBFu.toc): FuBar_HBFu - Fix capitalization.`
`12:42.04`	`ccKep`	`80 sunwell bosskills are needed to open the 1st gate`
`12:42.21`	`Grum`	`KEK!`
`12:42.28`	`ccKep`	`I'd like to know if there are 2 more gates after that (eg. after each boss)`
`12:42.30`	`Grum`	`that is lame tbh`
`12:43.06`	`Grum`	`first 3 are just accessible right?`
`12:43.11`	`ccKep`	`yeah`
`12:43.13`	`break19`	`meh. stupid svn`
`12:43.14`	`Grum`	`and horde kills also count?`
`12:43.21`	`Grum`	`or both factions are combined right?`
`12:43.21`	`ccKep`	`I hope so`
`12:43.31`	`Grum`	`so that is ~15 kills per week`
`12:43.38`	`break19`	`there.. it took svn 2mins to complete that and exit. rofl`
`12:43.39`	`Grum`	`on our server .. kek ><`
`12:43.39`	`ccKep`	`depends on server ;)`
`12:44.16`	`Grum`	`what is needed for the second gate? :P`
`12:44.25`	`ccKep`	`not known yet`
`12:44.28`	`ccKep`	`atleast I don't know =)`
`12:44.33`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61443 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix my last commit, which broke taboo editing.`
`12:44.35`	`Grum`	`you suck`
`12:44.57`	`ccKep`	`wutt?`
`12:45.06`	`Xinhuan`	`my server is nice, we have 13 or 14 guilds farming Illidan (both horde and alliance), and 23 or so in black temple in total, so i expect my server to open Sunwell really really fast :p`
`12:45.34`	`break19`	`xin.. grums wrong.. no.. -you- suck. :/`
`12:45.58`	`JoshBorke`	`you suck`
`12:45.59`	`break19`	`our server has maybe 4 guilds that are even out of kara.`
`12:46.03`	`break19`	`cry`
`12:46.20`	`Xinhuan`	`well`
`12:46.25`	`Xinhuan`	`[2/15 20:41:55] <ccKep> 80 sunwell bosskills are needed to open the 1st gat`
`12:46.30`	`Xinhuan`	`80 kills divided by 24 guilds`
`12:46.32`	`Grum`	`iewwwww cheese`
`12:46.34`	`Xinhuan`	`is like 3 weeks`
`12:46.38`	`Grum`	`hehe`
`12:46.44`	`break19`	`grum: uhh? thanks? heh`
`12:46.51`	`Grum`	`clean yourself .. filthy one!`
`12:46.59`	`break19`	`no need.. you just did.`
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`12:49.12`	`break19`	`someone send me some breakfast.. im hungry`
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`12:49.30`	`Thorgard`	`How does one get to the Sunwell isle?`
`12:49.37`	`Grum`	`if you have bread, i have your cheese`
`12:50.04`	`break19`	`meh`
`12:50.16`	`break19`	`grits+bacon+ham-n-cheese omelette`
`12:50.49`	`Fisker-`	`bombing run quests`
`12:50.50`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`12:50.54`	`Fisker-`	`DO NOT WANT`
`12:51.25`	`Chompers`	`25-man bosses now drop 2 [Badge of Justice]`
`12:51.25`	`Chompers`	`Badge of Justice`
`12:51.25`	`Chompers`	`Binds when picked up`
`12:51.25`	`Chompers`	`Requires Level 70`
`12:51.25`	`Chompers`
`12:51.29`	`Chompers`	`oops, sorry`
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`12:53.58`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61444 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Fixed Drop location for Feral and Restoration T5 Legs (Leotheras -> Karathress)`
`12:54.10`	`Fin`	`-5 points`
`12:54.16`	`Thorgard`	`Lies.`
`12:55.29`	`Thorgard`	`Anyone? "Howto get to the isle in 12 easy steps."`
`12:55.36`	`Hobby`	`anyone know if there were issues in omen or threat 1.0 in the svn last night?`
`12:56.57`	`Maldivia`	`12 easy stps... why so many?`
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`12:57.16`	`Thorgard`	`I'm short.. way to make fun of my physical shortcomings..`
`12:57.19`	`Thorgard`	`Jerk.`
`12:57.26`	`Grum`	`Hobby: explain your problem`
`12:57.27`	`Xinhuan`	`omen/threat did not receive any changes in the last 24 hours`
`12:57.29`	`Xinhuan`	`except for`
`12:57.32`	`break19`	`heh`
`12:57.32`	`Xinhuan`	`"- Scream at people if they log into a 2.4+ client with Threat-1.0 enabled."`
`12:57.48`	`*** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@89.166.198.166)`
`12:57.51`	`Hobby`	`In 25s last night my threat matched what everyone else saw`
`12:58.03`	`Hobby`	`but threat for others was much higher than actual`
`12:58.24`	`Hobby`	`so it would show me at the bottom of the list, the tank having 84k threat...in reality he may have only had 20 or so`
`12:59.09`	`Grum`	`Hobby: you are likely in a guild that actually updates threat regularly right?`
`12:59.19`	`Grum`	`instead of once every .. well .. reinstall of their computer`
`12:59.21`	`Hobby`	`yup, no one more than a week or so out of date`
`12:59.33`	`Grum`	`such lies :p`
`13:00.04`	`Grum`	`anyhow, you were fighting what?`
`13:00.27`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61445 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Bugfix`
`13:00.33`	`Hobby`	`lurker, hydross and void`
`13:00.35`	`break19`	`ooo`
`13:00.40`	`Hobby`	`same symtoms on all bosses and trash`
`13:01.21`	`Xinhuan`	`well there were no chages`
`13:01.23`	`Xinhuan`	`changes`
`13:01.41`	`break19`	`Xinhuan: am I right in assuming thats the vaunted, and much-anticipated, dep-free notes addon? :)`
`13:01.42`	`_rane`	`shouldn't alt click on name in chat window invite to group?`
`13:01.44`	`Hobby`	`yeah i wonder if something else is pulling in a bad threat 1.0 or....i have no idea`
`13:01.58`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, it doesn't have much yet`
`13:02.08`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't create your own notes - yet`
`13:02.14`	`chexsum`	`where do we get 2.4 compat threat from`
`13:02.22`	`Xinhuan`	`you don't chexsum`
`13:02.28`	`Xinhuan`	`Threat-2.0 is written from scratch`
`13:02.43`	`chexsum`	`so nothings using it yet ?`
`13:02.48`	`Grum`	`ofc not`
`13:02.48`	`break19`	`chexsum: you could pull it outta your .. well. you get the idea.. its the only way for now :)`
`13:02.50`	`Grum`	`its not even finished :p`
`13:02.56`	`chexsum`	`ko`
`13:03.42`	`chexsum`	`are they doing the threat support in the client for 2.4 or not ?`
`13:04.05`	`CIA-12`	`03nevcairiel * r61446 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: implement tracking for lifebloom stacks, may break`
`13:04.16`	`Grum`	`chexsum: yes when its finished`
`13:04.23`	`TNSe`	`threat 2.0 should be fairly accurate`
`13:04.40`	`Grum`	`it is very accurate for the data that is minable`
`13:04.47`	`Grum`	`stuff like knockbacks will still be fuzzy`
`13:04.51`	`nevcairiel`	`threat support in the game client was eventually planned for WotlK`
`13:04.51`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:04.52`	`nevcairiel`	`not 2.4`
`13:05.03`	`nevcairiel`	`__call`
`13:05.03`	`chexsum`	`is blizzards threat stuff just doing the same as ace ones? using combatlog for data ?`
`13:05.07`	`chexsum`	`:P`
`13:05.15`	`Grum`	`there is no blizzard threat stuff`
`13:05.16`	`*** join/#wowace stavmar (n=stavmar@cpe-67-9-165-7.austin.res.rr.com)`
`13:05.19`	`TNSe`	`but isn't all the new threat data going to stuff up network traffic somewhat?`
`13:05.24`	`chexsum`	`well i just asked that`
`13:05.28`	`Grum`	`there is no new threat-data`
`13:05.31`	`Grum`	`sigh O.o`
`13:05.32`	`nevcairiel`	`TNSe: nah not really`
`13:05.41`	`chexsum`	`wotlk then huh`
`13:05.54`	`Grum`	`chexsum: my magic ball is broken, sorry, i cant tell you how it will look`
`13:06.04`	`TNSe`	`no new threat data? So old threat already sent threat data with what mob the threat was done on?`
`13:06.20`	`chexsum`	`i thought some of you might have private convos with blzzard peoples`
`13:06.20`	`Grum`	`yes?`
`13:06.23`	`Grum`	`it was just grouped per name`
`13:06.28`	`Grum`	`and now it will be groups on GUID`
`13:06.38`	`Grum`	`*grouped`
`13:06.40`	`chexsum`	`tnse its all guesstimated`
`13:06.59`	`nevcairiel`	`TNSe: it'll be slightly more data for fights with groups with alot mobs with the same name, but nothing to worry about traffic wise, really`
`13:07.01`	`Grum`	`chexsum: they are thinking about doing it in wotlk afaik`
`13:07.21`	`TNSe`	`nothing to worry about`
`13:07.23`	`TNSe`	`that worries me XD`
`13:07.33`	`Grum`	`~taser TNSe`
`13:07.33`	`purl`	`ACTION stuns TNSe with a taser, then drags TNSe out into the middle of highway 666`
`13:07.39`	`chexsum`	`they need to cache guis info now imho`
`13:07.50`	`chexsum`	`s/guis/guid`
`13:08.01`	`Grum`	`but hardly any data will need to be shared`
`13:08.04`	`Grum`	`just 'pet ownership'`
`13:08.15`	`*** join/#wowace RaydenUni (i=bozartmp@129.21.79.114)`
`13:08.16`	`break19`	`besides.. who here still hasnt bothered to get with the program, and get a real internet connection.`
`13:08.28`	`TNSe`	`its not really abotu my inet connection`
`13:08.32`	`Xinhuan`	`"You can now join an Alterac Valley as a group again."`
`13:08.34`	`Xinhuan`	`WOOO HOOOO`
`13:08.34`	`TNSe`	`its about wow having data throttle :P`
`13:08.41`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: yay!`
`13:08.48`	`chexsum`	`a lot of isps do caps now so reducing data is a good thing`
`13:08.48`	`Xinhuan`	`guild AV!`
`13:08.55`	`Grum`	`TNSe: its not even going to get close`
`13:08.56`	`Orionshock`	`what's the largest spell id? 4 numbers?`
`13:09.01`	`Grum`	`5`
`13:09.04`	`TNSe`	`hehe`
`13:09.06`	`Grum`	`O M G ...`
`13:09.09`	`chexsum`	`im on 12g and barely make it each month`
`13:09.34`	`Snago`	`stop dling porn, problem solved`
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`13:09.53`	`chexsum`	`i only play wow`
`13:10.10`	`chexsum`	`and irc`
`13:10.12`	`Xinhuan`	`Brutallis encounter changes: Hitpoints increased from 7.3 mil to 11 mil`
`13:10.12`	`Xinhuan`	`LOL`
`13:10.13`	`Grum`	`5 numbars! .. lets pack it !!! .. so its 2 bytes`
`13:10.18`	`TNSe`	`well, sometimes when you rejoin a raid while they are killing trash you get kickd back out due to too much traffic :P`
`13:10.26`	`Xinhuan`	`Shamans: Removed from the game.`
`13:10.30`	`break19`	`chexsum: it aint wow.. I have a network monitor.. the average speed for data transfer, for me, while wow is running.. 1-2kbps.. thats less than half the bandwidth of a 56k modem.`
`13:10.37`	`Grum`	`TNSe: have people using GPSlib stop using i`
`13:10.38`	`Grum`	`*it`
`13:10.44`	`chexsum`	`no way`
`13:10.53`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan: finally`
`13:11.00`	`Grum`	`stupid toothpick-people`
`13:11.07`	`chexsum`	`when im capped i cant pvp and the cap is 5kb`
`13:11.12`	`TNSe`	`does wow have a way to measure how much network traffic you receive (due to addons) and how much you send (same)`
`13:11.19`	`Xinhuan`	`nope`
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`13:11.26`	`chexsum`	`wow sends a lot of data when 30 people are fighting`
`13:11.28`	`Snago`	`you can use AddonSpamFu`
`13:11.33`	`Fisker-`	`wtf @ first boss`
`13:11.37`	`Xinhuan`	`because addon network traffic is not the same as what addonspamfu does`
`13:11.38`	`Fisker-`	`in magister's terrace`
`13:11.45`	`Fisker-`	`2 DPS were outside the gate and got locked out`
`13:11.50`	`Fisker-`	`and we were 2 healers and a tank`
`13:11.50`	`break19`	`chexsum: i've never seen mine go higher than 4kbps`
`13:11.53`	`Fisker-`	`and we still killed him`
`13:11.54`	`chexsum`	`nothing can stop what other people send to you`
`13:12.12`	`chexsum`	`my uplink isnt ever capped`
`13:12.12`	`Josh_Borke`	`lol fisker`
`13:12.26`	`break19`	`besides. wtf kinda isp caps at 56k?`
`13:12.32`	`Xinhuan`	`every addon message you send, say its a 30 byte message, gets attached with the addon prefix, the sender's name, the channel used, and then you add the 7 OSI layers on top of that - and that's your bandwidth used`
`13:12.32`	`nevcairiel`	`Fisker-: before latest patch you could dps through the gate :P`
`13:12.37`	`Fisker-`	`you still can`
`13:12.38`	`chexsum`	`the biggest isp in australia`
`13:12.44`	`break19`	`tehn I`
`13:12.47`	`break19`	`err`
`13:12.52`	`break19`	`then I'd find a smaller one`
`13:13.05`	`chexsum`	`some day... lol`
`13:13.56`	`chexsum`	`i dont like the thought of possible 'no internet' while switching`
`13:14.20`	`break19`	`<- 10M downlink/1M uplink. i can download movies at 800KB/s while having a 50ms ping in wow...`
`13:14.31`	`Orionshock`	`any one know if GetSpellInfo is limited to cache?`
`13:14.38`	`break19`	`and i live in the woods`
`13:14.46`	`TNSe`	`hehe`
`13:14.47`	`chexsum`	`i used to have 40MBit down/1up :(((`
`13:14.49`	`chexsum`	`unlimited`
`13:14.57`	`chexsum`	`i hated losing that bargain`
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`13:15.01`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`13:15.43`	`break19`	`mine is cablemodem.. we used to have dsl.. but bellsouth(now at&t) was too slow in gettin the 6+M out here.`
`13:15.50`	`chexsum`	`...and i paid less than what i pay now`
`13:15.53`	`Maldivia`	`Orionshock: GetSpellInfo?? well, spells are`
`13:15.56`	`TNSe`	`wow itself limits how much traffic can be sent...`
`13:16.01`	`Maldivia`	`always cashed, so...`
`13:16.02`	`chexsum`	`optusnet = 40MBit`
`13:16.14`	`break19`	`cashed? what, its some kind of check?`
`13:16.21`	`chexsum`	`i got better dl from american sites than americans when i had it`
`13:16.27`	`Snago`	`100/100 here.. My hardrive is the bottleneck now >.<`
`13:16.27`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`13:16.34`	`Fisker-`	`there's a "debuff" that gives you more damage taken`
`13:16.39`	`Fisker-`	`that can be clicked off`
`13:16.40`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:16.46`	`Orionshock`	`produced a 3mb data file`
`13:16.48`	`Orionshock`	`-.-`
`13:17.24`	`Maldivia`	`considering the db file that's stored in the client files is around 25mb... that's not much`
`13:17.39`	`Orionshock`	`no it's not`
`13:18.07`	`break19`	`chexsum: people laugh at US consumer's bandwidth sizes all the time.. yet, we dont ever complain about caps :)`
`13:18.18`	`Maldivia`	`what info you get from GetSpellInfo ?`
`13:18.39`	`chexsum`	`most data servers are located in the usa afaik`
`13:18.41`	`Orionshock`	`--name, rank, icon, cost, isFunnel, powerType, castTime, minRange, maxRange =`
`13:19.05`	`chexsum`	`you guys are ripping off our isps so they ripus off :(`
`13:19.18`	`Snago`	`I'd much rather have a slow, uncapped connection than a fast, capped one.. (don't have to worry since I've got a fast, uncapped but still :P)`
`13:19.20`	`Maldivia`	`Ok, tha'ts also very limited data set :)`
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`13:19.45`	`chexsum`	`id be a pig in mud with 20G/month`
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`13:20.21`	`Maldivia`	`Orionshock: what about description - or do you have to do tooltip scanning for that?`
`13:20.34`	`Orionshock`	`Maldivia: prolly`
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`13:22.06`	`Recluse`	`D= anyone know what option i'm looking for: my pitbull is showing percentages and cast time with about 10 decimal places...`
`13:22.36`	`chexsum`	`itd be some text option`
`13:22.52`	`Grum`	`:round(1)`
`13:23.08`	`chexsum`	`i set all mine to absolute`
`13:23.24`	`Grum`	`you have an old dogtag entry`
`13:23.30`	`Recluse`	`hmm`
`13:23.37`	`Grum`	`just select another one, select the one you had and .. PEW PEW FIXORED`
`13:24.22`	`Recluse`	`did dogtag change since last night or something? lol`
`13:24.34`	`chexsum`	`wow actually its all changed lol`
`13:24.46`	`chexsum`	`no 'all units' anymore too`
`13:25.43`	`Diao`	`dogtag has been getting updated like nonstop`
`13:25.47`	`*** join/#wowace Stanzilla (i=Stan@irc.kuja.in)`
`13:25.49`	`Diao`	`for the past week or so`
`13:26.07`	`Fisker-`	`oooh`
`13:26.09`	`Fisker-`	`midway leak`
`13:27.26`	`Diao`	`and break19 we don't get reduced speed on our internet in the US when hitting the cap, they just cut you off completely, though the cap is high :P`
`13:27.44`	`Fisker-`	`whats a cap?`
`13:27.55`	`break19`	`chexsum: our ISP learned, a long time ago.. cap the bandwidth to a reasonably fast level, and sell it at that speed..`
`13:28.17`	`Fisker-`	`overbooking faggots = faggots`
`13:28.20`	`break19`	`Diao: only if they can show that you are doing things to violate your contract.. like running an FTP server or webserver...`
`13:28.23`	`chexsum`	`nah your copper is just older than ours :P`
`13:28.26`	`Diao`	`nah`
`13:28.37`	`chexsum`	`our cable lines are better also`
`13:28.39`	`Diao`	`most isps have part of the contract that says if you inhibit other's usage`
`13:28.40`	`Diao`	`etc`
`13:28.43`	`chexsum`	`best in the world`
`13:28.51`	`Diao`	`and generally if you dl like 100gb a month or more then they'll cut you off`
`13:29.03`	`Grum`	`LOL`
`13:29.05`	`Grum`	`100gb .. ZOMG NOES`
`13:29.16`	`Diao`	`well yeah`
`13:29.18`	`Diao`	`it's practically impossible`
`13:29.20`	`Codayus_`	`Varies a lot from ISP to ISP, but yeah, in the fine print "unlimited usage" isn't...`
`13:29.31`	`Thorgard`	`100gb per month? ;P I do that by just stayin' on IRC.`
`13:29.31`	`Diao`	`but they have cut people off before for doing it`
`13:29.35`	`Grum`	`Netherlands, XS4ALL is true unlimited`
`13:29.35`	`chexsum`	`the old cable service i had was more like a content provider though - they ran transparent proxy servers which broke a lot of sites`
`13:29.40`	`Grum`	`they just dont fucking care :)`
`13:29.47`	`Diao`	`european and asian isps don't care`
`13:29.53`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:29.59`	`Diao`	`not to mention they get faster for cheaper :(`
`13:29.59`	`chexsum`	`i used to have an xs4all site lol`
`13:30.02`	`Diao`	`and no packet shaping`
`13:30.21`	`Grum`	`chexsum: 'site' as in 'ftp site' ?`
`13:30.30`	`chexsum`	`aus is probably going to get worse for being content providers`
`13:30.30`	`Thorgard`	`It sucked, Internet-service-wise, moving to the US from Sweden.`
`13:30.45`	`chexsum`	`they will cut off pr0n sites soon`
`13:31.02`	`xlvii`	`Australia's internet sucks, you pay out by the assload for measly quotas and inadequate speeds.`
`13:31.37`	`Diao`	`$40/mo for 6/1.5 or $50 for 12/768(cable) :(`
`13:32.00`	`chexsum`	`1MBit+50G is good enough for most people so they should just do that`
`13:32.02`	`xlvii`	`I'm on a 12 GB plan and apparently I should be able to reach speeds of over 20 megabytes/megabits (I forget which one) per second, the fastest I have ever download is 800 kb/s and that was from my ISP's website.`
`13:32.09`	`Orionshock`	`humm... lets see if i can crash the client :D`
`13:32.10`	`Diao`	`or i could move to japan or hong kong or south korea and pay like $15 for 100 mbit up/down`
`13:32.19`	`Recluse`	`hrm, when i put :Round(1) in there, it just auto-vanishes when submitting it`
`13:32.22`	`Diao`	`bits probably`
`13:32.30`	`xlvii`	`My 12GB plan costs me $69.95 a month, and I often use it in 10 days or less.`
`13:32.32`	`chexsum`	`usa charges a lot for data through the southern cross link so they do what theyre doing now`
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`13:33.02`	`xlvii`	`Then it slows to 64 kb/s and you can hardly do anything on it, even loading my ISP's website takes around five minutes to fully load everything.`
`13:33.10`	`Diao`	`ouch`
`13:33.11`	`chexsum`	`aus needs to utilize out japan link more`
`13:33.27`	`chexsum`	`s/out/our`
`13:33.31`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:33.35`	`Diao`	`can't wait til i graduate`
`13:33.39`	`Diao`	`and move back to hk`
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`13:33.53`	`Diao`	`1gbps up/down net for $150 USD/mo`
`13:33.57`	`Diao`	`overkill`
`13:33.59`	`Diao`	`:P`
`13:34.05`	`Diao`	`no caps or anything either`
`13:34.13`	`chexsum`	`ive been considering moving to europe for ages since my life revolves around computing`
`13:34.14`	`Codayus_`	`As a general rule, the denser the population, the better and cheaper the net access will be. The reasons for this should be obvious.`
`13:34.26`	`chexsum`	`aus is so freaking crap @ computers`
`13:34.28`	`Codayus_`	`Of course, some people LIKE living in bits of the world with low population density.`
`13:34.36`	`Diao`	`assuming someone is willing to pay for laying the cable`
`13:34.50`	`Diao`	`hooray for government subsidy`
`13:34.54`	`Diao`	`(nonexistent in the US)`
`13:34.55`	`chexsum`	`singapore owns our cable lines`
`13:35.28`	`chexsum`	`jp owns our best international link`
`13:36.06`	`chexsum`	`id be happy to get a china wow account lol`
`13:36.13`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:36.19`	`Fisker-`	`don't move to denmark though Cheads`
`13:36.21`	`Fisker-`	`chexsum`
`13:36.27`	`Diao`	`i'd play it if my friends knew chinese`
`13:36.27`	`Fisker-`	`here even google is illegal`
`13:36.32`	`chexsum`	`id go helsinki`
`13:36.32`	`Diao`	`o_O`
`13:36.45`	`Diao`	`illegal?`
`13:37.00`	`Fisker-`	`no ruling yet`
`13:37.13`	`Fisker-`	`But they closed down TPB based on the fact it "assisted" with copyright infringement`
`13:37.14`	`xlvii`	`chexsum, didn't notice you were from Queensland! Nice to see another Queenslander around!`
`13:37.15`	`Fisker-`	`so is google`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61447 10BigWigs/ (Plugins/Comm.lua Prototype.lua): (log message trimmed)`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs:`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:37.28`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:37.30`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:37.33`	`chexsum`	`:)`
`13:38.13`	`Diao`	`isn't TPB swedish`
`13:38.18`	`Fisker-`	`yes`
`13:38.37`	`Fisker-`	`The government have gotten a ISP to shut down access to TPB`
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`13:39.00`	`xlvii`	`@Diao, http://courtblog.thepiratebay.org/`
`13:39.11`	`xlvii`	`@chexsum, I sent you a private message, not sure if you got it.`
`13:39.19`	`chexsum`	`i replied`
`13:39.19`	`haste`	`Fisker-: it's only a DNS dummy isnt it?`
`13:39.43`	`wereHamster`	`Fisker-, didn't the ISP they just removed tpb from the dns servers`
`13:39.45`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61448 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Bugfix.`
`13:39.50`	`chexsum`	`!c us Barthilas Chamberlaine`
`13:39.54`	`chexsum`	`think thats right`
`13:40.04`	`Fisker-`	`sure wereHamster`
`13:40.04`	`xlvii`	`@chexsum, I didn't get it, you might have to identify with NickServ / Register.`
`13:40.09`	`xlvii`	`!a us Barthilas Chamberlaine`
`13:40.53`	`ThraeBot`	`chexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (38/23/0). 11561 HP; 9495 Mana; 196 mana regen; 51 mp5; 3945 Armour; 13 spell crit; 535 +spell dmg; 1411 +heal; 5.14% dodge; 496 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1337 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dzmoc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35amc7 ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 08:50:02 2008 EST ]]`
`13:40.58`	`Diao`	`at least it's not like china's great firewall ;)`
`13:41.04`	`chexsum`	`ive only ever met 1 other person via wow from brissie lol`
`13:41.11`	`Diao`	`anyway, should get some sleep before my exams tomorrow morning`
`13:41.19`	`pb_ee1`	`!a eu bloodhoof lona`
`13:41.21`	`Diao`	`or rather.. later today lol`
`13:41.24`	`Orionshock`	`ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink("spell:37418")`
`13:41.32`	`xlvii`	`I'm the second, or the first?`
`13:41.45`	`chexsum`	`lol @ TBR: 1337`
`13:41.47`	`chexsum`	`that owns`
`13:41.55`	`Fisker-`	`blocking TBC is technically against EU legislation anyways`
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`13:42.24`	`chexsum`	`second`
`13:42.50`	`chexsum`	`some druid from my old server (us) used to play in a internet cafe i sometimes go to but i never met him/her in person`
`13:43.30`	`chexsum`	`most aussies are in sydney`
`13:44.34`	`Orionshock`	`? Infinite Wisdom Shadow Word: Pain Bonus`
`13:44.45`	`xlvii`	`So I see, I have a whole bunch of friends from Brisbane.`
`13:44.46`	`xlvii`	`:P`
`13:44.52`	`xlvii`	`Most of them play on Frostmourne though.`
`13:45.33`	`chexsum`	`im 32 so not many people used comps when i was in my social years`
`13:45.43`	`xlvii`	`So I see.`
`13:45.57`	`xlvii`	`Nothing wrong with 'older' people even though, you're not that old.`
`13:46.30`	`Recluse`	`ok, got :Round(1) to stick, but it doesn't get rid of the decimal places :/`
`13:46.38`	`xlvii`	`I prefer to play with mature people to be honest, a lot more gets done and even if you fail it doesn't turn into a huge blame game.. someone just accepts responsibility and everyone moves on from what went wrong.`
`13:46.42`	`break19`	`older than me. barely.`
`13:46.45`	`break19`	`<- 31`
`13:46.48`	`chexsum`	`people who could boot a computer when i was 18 were weird`
`13:46.54`	`xlvii`	`<- 17`
`13:47.20`	`break19`	`usually I'm the one taking responsibility.. but thats mainly just because I suck.`
`13:47.21`	`[Ammo]`	`guess I'm weird chexsum :)`
`13:47.30`	`chexsum`	`i just play to pass time - i dont care about any progress lol`
`13:47.35`	`[Ammo]`	`started on a ZX81 when I was 7`
`13:47.39`	`[Ammo]`	`31 now :)`
`13:47.53`	`break19`	`I started on a C64 when I was 5.. :)`
`13:48.08`	`chexsum`	`my nick is from a program that was released 25 years ago so thats how far i go back lol`
`13:48.19`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`13:48.29`	`CIA-12`	`03pb_ee1 * r61449 10PitBull/BarFader/BarFader.lua:`
`13:48.29`	`CIA-12`	`PitBull`
`13:48.29`	`CIA-12`	`- Adding frFR locale`
`13:48.40`	`RaydenUni`	`oh man`
`13:48.45`	`Bruners`	`C64 ftw`
`13:48.54`	`RaydenUni`	`i didn't realize the new daily pvp quests were for world pvp objectives`
`13:49.04`	`RaydenUni`	`that sounds like a nice break from the blade's edge dailies`
`13:49.16`	`RaydenUni`	`and will actually make people pvp`
`13:49.18`	`Bruners`	`are there any shops that sell yousticks for C64 still?`
`13:49.27`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61450 10HandyNotes/ (HandyNotes.lua HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua): HandyNotes: Internal code rearrangement for safecalling and faster updates`
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`13:49.45`	`chexsum`	`i used to do hardware hacks on the c64 with no outside help`
`13:49.46`	`Antscape`	`ha wow is gay`
`13:49.52`	`Bruners`	`*joystick fail at typing`
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`13:50.26`	`chexsum`	`bleh @ c64 hardware just get a emulator`
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`13:52.26`	`chexsum`	`ive got a cd with the best ever c64 game on it and it keeps me happy`
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`13:53.33`	`chexsum`	`cpc464 > c64 btw ;)`
`13:54.27`	`chexsum`	`they just advertised to the wrong crowd`
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`13:56.06`	`break19`	`I used to have an acoustic coupler device for my c64, and would sign onto local BBS's and lurk the message boards, including Fidonet :)`
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`13:57.29`	`chexsum`	`some old guy i bought a modem off 20 years ago game me 100 local bbs numbers`
`13:57.59`	`chexsum`	`one was the local unix bbs and the people who run it now dont even know they were around back then`
`13:59.23`	`RaydenUni`	`what do you guys think about the stealth nerf to drinking?`
`14:00.08`	`chexsum`	`its reasonable`
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`14:01.04`	`chexsum`	`i think they should just remove drinks in arena and put random drink spawns in`
`14:01.59`	`chexsum`	`im a priest and only need to drink when a locks spamming mana drain`
`14:02.24`	`Baldor_work`	`lucky you i guess :)`
`14:02.52`	`Baldor_work`	`i think drinking in arena is cool though, adds another variable you have to watcsh.`
`14:03.05`	`RaydenUni`	`it seems like it's a huge nerf to drinking between pulls`
`14:03.07`	`RaydenUni`	`or drinking in pve`
`14:03.11`	`RaydenUni`	`er, grinding`
`14:03.14`	`chexsum`	`gotta place your spells properly and youll get full heals for 1k mana`
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`14:03.54`	`chexsum`	`itd hurt shammy/pally most`
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`14:04.39`	`Codayus_`	`Note that they just buffed holy priest and resto druid regen even more.`
`14:04.46`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61451 10IPopBar/ (IPopBar.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): IPopBar: Fix errors`
`14:04.55`	`chexsum`	`a priest/druid can do a 5k instant heal so can afford to drink a bit longer`
`14:05.00`	`chexsum`	`yeah`
`14:05.10`	`chexsum`	`my priests regen is through the roof in ptr`
`14:05.17`	`Codayus_`	`Also, how do you figure a priest can do a 5k instant heal?`
`14:05.18`	`chexsum`	`600 ooc`
`14:05.27`	`chexsum`	`thats pre-t4`
`14:06.19`	`chexsum`	`shield/prom is 4k with 2k+heal`
`14:06.46`	`chexsum`	`shield/prom/renew/gheal...`
`14:07.12`	`Codayus_`	`Eh, not really instant...`
`14:07.13`	`Cryect`	`thats not a 5k instant heal though`
`14:07.23`	`chexsum`	`4k :\`
`14:08.07`	`chexsum`	`in anything but a boss fight in a 25 man raid its enough :P`
`14:08.29`	`Codayus_`	`Shield triggers GCD...so 1.5s later you can PoM...also triggers GCD, and a PoM heal isn't as good as an instant heal if you need it.`
`14:09.15`	`chexsum`	`between pulls its fast enough so the drink nerf isnt a problem`
`14:09.18`	`RaydenUni`	`However, we specifically made sure the water would not change the amount of mana regenerated by players who drink between pulls or during gauntlet runs. You should see little to no difference in the amount of mana yielded if you sit to drink for at least 6 seconds, which most players do."`
`14:09.26`	`chexsum`	`i dont even drink in 5 man heroics`
`14:09.34`	`RaydenUni`	`that's heroic`
`14:09.34`	`chexsum`	`between trash i mean`
`14:09.50`	`RaydenUni`	`on ZA the other night i was drinking after every pull just to make sure i was topped off`
`14:10.03`	`chexsum`	`i dont drink in za`
`14:10.04`	`RaydenUni`	`when you have 80 manna why not?`
`14:10.17`	`RaydenUni`	`i only have about 8000 mana so drinking is nice`
`14:10.24`	`chexsum`	`600 spirit is awesome`
`14:10.28`	`chexsum`	`lol`
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`14:11.16`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61452 10IPopBar/ (11 files in 2 dirs): IPopBar: Update version from 2.00 to 2.01`
`14:11.45`	`chexsum`	`i go for spirit over mp5 no matter what im healing - mp5 is for pvp`
`14:12.21`	`chexsum`	`if a pally sticks mp5 on me ill call him a noob for not kingsing me`
`14:12.58`	`RaydenUni`	`ishould start working on getting my epic flying`
`14:13.06`	`chexsum`	`bleh`
`14:13.11`	`RaydenUni`	`and levelig my druid`
`14:13.13`	`RaydenUni`	`and leveling my warrior`
`14:13.16`	`RaydenUni`	`lol`
`14:13.28`	`chexsum`	`i honestly think anyone whos got a epic flyer ebay'd gold`
`14:13.36`	`chexsum`	`nfi how people get that much cash`
`14:13.48`	`Stanzilla`	`farming ore`
`14:13.57`	`chexsum`	`i had lvl75 pvp mount until i needed a flyer`
`14:14.03`	`Thorgard`	`I only buy epic flyers on my farmers. ;P`
`14:14.36`	`Codayus_`	`Golds pretty easy to get...`
`14:14.45`	`chexsum`	`im a healbot so i just say 'summon me'`
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`14:15.15`	`chexsum`	`'and get me drinks' lol`
`14:16.56`	`Kivin`	`r61196\VisualHeal\VisualHeal.lua:169: attempt to index global 'incomingHealBar_texture' (a nil value)`
`14:17.00`	`Kivin`	`getting spammed with this`
`14:17.49`	`RaydenUni`	`my professor has two epic mounts`
`14:18.01`	`RaydenUni`	`my shadow priest has better gear than she does though`
`14:18.41`	`chexsum`	`he probably ebayed`
`14:18.52`	`Stanzilla`	`Kivin: change the "_" to "."`
`14:18.58`	`chexsum`	`i considered it at one time`
`14:19.14`	`chexsum`	`but bleh @ moving faster`
`14:19.28`	`EvilJohn`	`or just bought the cash for the moutns`
`14:19.32`	`RaydenUni`	`i don't do much in the world these days`
`14:19.34`	`RaydenUni`	`just raiding`
`14:19.38`	`RaydenUni`	`so it's kind of meh,`
`14:19.42`	`RaydenUni`	`but it would be an accomplishment`
`14:19.59`	`chexsum`	`i just do bgs and help guildies`
`14:20.22`	`chexsum`	`the only thing i desire atm is the staff from kazzak`
`14:20.36`	`chexsum`	`in 2.4 i might farm cash to buy it`
`14:21.19`	`chexsum`	`as shadow i can get about 50 primals per day lol`
`14:21.35`	`EvilJohn`	`I can't farm that much`
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`14:21.41`	`EvilJohn`	`I get so bored`
`14:21.43`	`kenlyric`	`anyone seen a bug where you randomly can't use spells, abilities, the Escape key?`
`14:21.52`	`Codayus_`	`Farming is overated.`
`14:21.55`	`kenlyric`	`best I can tell the computer thinks I have shift/ctrl/alt stuck down.`
`14:21.56`	`Kivin`	`everyone: thanks`
`14:21.57`	`TNSe`	`kenlyric, hunter?`
`14:22.01`	`kenlyric`	`wow does`
`14:22.03`	`kenlyric`	`TNSe: yes`
`14:22.11`	`TNSe`	`remove kill command from your steadyshot macro`
`14:22.20`	`kenlyric`	`but.... noooooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`14:22.23`	`chexsum`	`lol`
`14:22.25`	`Codayus_`	`Crafting and hanging out in the AH is easier and faste.`
`14:22.51`	`Kivin`	`kenlyric: it's a well known and well documented bug all over the forums. it happens when your pet tries to cast kill command but gets stuck, and locks down all your abilities`
`14:22.56`	`kenlyric`	`I remember i used to get that with hunter's mark in a macro.`
`14:23.03`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61454 10IPopBar/ (IPopBar.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): IPopBar: Fix typos`
`14:23.10`	`Kivin`	`i stopped using kill command all together after getting jammed up 3 days in a row in BGs, then in the middle of a heroic boss fight =/`
`14:23.25`	`EvilJohn`	`can you just /rl to fix it?`
`14:23.27`	`kenlyric`	`will it happen even if I manual cast KC?`
`14:23.30`	`kenlyric`	`no, you can't`
`14:23.32`	`Kivin`	`no, you can;t`
`14:23.40`	`Kivin`	`kenlyric: manual KC wont work, iirc`
`14:23.46`	`chexsum`	`ive just had the shadowform bug which sounds similar`
`14:23.46`	`TNSe`	`kenlyric, yes.. but then you react to it and can press it again fast`
`14:23.50`	`Kivin`	`actually, it well might... trying to remember`
`14:24.11`	`Kivin`	`yeah... if i recall, you have to wait for a crit (your autoshot wont work, so you can only crit with steady and arcane, really) then push a manual KC through`
`14:24.49`	`TNSe`	`yes`
`14:24.58`	`kenlyric`	`one button hunter... dead... dead!`
`14:25.07`	`TNSe`	`it seems to be related to teh new 0.5s delay of autoshot if you do an instant`
`14:25.13`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61455 10CoolDownButtons/ (CoolDownButtons.toc config.lua core.lua locale.lua): CoolDownButtons: Fixed typo in .toc and added a Note to the configuration window.`
`14:25.17`	`vithos`	`that's not a new delay, TNSe`
`14:25.18`	`chexsum`	`mm hunters, enhancement shaman and feral druid burst is through the roof atm imho`
`14:25.23`	`vithos`	`it was just missing for one day recently`
`14:25.26`	`TNSe`	`it is`
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`14:25.35`	`Kivin`	`just take KC out of your steady shot macro and it should stop happening`
`14:25.43`	`TNSe`	`in 2.3.2 they added so that any instant done 0.5s before an autoshot gets delayed until after the autoshot`
`14:26.14`	`vithos`	`do you play a hunter?`
`14:26.48`	`TNSe`	`who? :P`
`14:26.49`	`vithos`	`oh wait, you're saying it gets delayed until after, instead of delaying the autoshot`
`14:27.13`	`vithos`	`i'll buy that`
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`14:27.25`	`TNSe`	`but if you do the kill command during that time`
`14:27.29`	`vithos`	`but there's always been a 0.5s auto shot delay`
`14:27.36`	`TNSe`	`and pet for some reason doesnt do it, it seems to hang gup everything`
`14:27.45`	`TNSe`	`yeah, but before if you did an instant it would delay auto by 0.5`
`14:27.51`	`TNSe`	`now it will do instant after auto if <0.5 is left`
`14:28.09`	`TNSe`	`meaning you can gain some GCD if you abuse it :P`
`14:30.02`	`kenlyric`	`last time I looked at the new hunter steady macro on the forum, it had KC in it... and that was only a couple weeks ago.`
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`14:31.12`	`Kivin`	`a lot of hunters aren't getting this issue`
`14:31.21`	`Kivin`	`i've had dozens of them tell me i'm full of it when i describe it`
`14:31.39`	`vithos`	`i've seen at least one report by somebody claiming they don't use a macro at all and are getting it`
`14:31.49`	`Kivin`	`i've seen tons of those`
`14:32.00`	`Kivin`	`at one point, i was tracking seven different forum threads`
`14:32.07`	`Kivin`	`in hunters, bug reports, suggestions`
`14:32.10`	`Kivin`	`customer service`
`14:32.24`	`vithos`	`lol customer service`
`14:32.54`	`Thorgard`	`Are we talking about how KC fucks up auto shot for hunters?`
`14:33.10`	`Kivin`	`I think we're fairly decided that KC isn't the whole issue`
`14:33.13`	`Kivin`	`but yeah`
`14:33.16`	`kenlyric`	`no, how it fucks with every other ability after combat is over`
`14:33.33`	`Recluse`	`i'm still confused why dogtag would suddenly include 12 decimal places by default >.> (finally figured out how to get rid of them, but still...default? o.O)`
`14:33.55`	`Thorgard`	`Recluse, it's not default, afaik`
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`14:34.58`	`Recluse`	`well, it wasn't like this last night, updated pitbull, and suddenly they are there is all :p still working on tracking down all the numbers that are affected`
`14:35.01`	`kenlyric`	`well, now that's a brainstorm... the dragonmaw attack right over the scryer graveyard.`
`14:35.06`	`vithos`	`maybe fishy floating point math? but i don't know any details about your problem`
`14:35.20`	`evl`	`SetID() and GetID() is there any documentation on what they do?`
`14:35.35`	`wereHamster`	`set and get the ID of the frame..`
`14:35.46`	`wereHamster`	`<Frame id="1">`
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`14:36.08`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`aloah`
`14:36.21`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61456 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: Reaver: 2.4 compat.`
`14:36.23`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`is there an addon for moving aroung the map buttons?`
`14:37.07`	`evl`	`wereHamster: And what happens if I use the same id twice?`
`14:37.35`	`RaydenUni`	`http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/6628052.html`
`14:37.35`	`RaydenUni`	`lol`
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`14:41.13`	`vithos`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK: the default buttons can be hidden/moved with simpleMinimap`
`14:42.25`	`wereHamster`	`evl, don't know, why don't you try? :)`
`14:42.37`	`evl`	`I did`
`14:42.44`	`evl`	`but I feear my buttons are overriding themselves`
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`14:44.29`	`RaydenUni`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=DE5B06BCA1C152770FDA71D58F054D02?topicId=3773463761&sid=1`
`14:44.34`	`RaydenUni`	`on why hackers love slabs`
`14:44.44`	`RaydenUni`	`you can teleport to the 5 chests once an hour`
`14:45.04`	`RaydenUni`	`i liked it better when i thought it was just something they did`
`14:45.20`	`RaydenUni`	`sort of along the lines of "why do robots always face the same direction when standing in a group" from iRobot`
`14:47.00`	`Recluse`	`ok, :Round(1) should round to a single decimal place, yes? (like 12.3)`
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`14:49.14`	`Recluse`	`if so, then something isn't working right lol -> http://i26.tinypic.com/epoo52.jpg`
`14:51.06`	`Gngsk`	`RaydenUni, UICentral again, guess everyone didn't get the message about that one, eh?`
`14:52.08`	`CIA-12`	`03parnic * r61457 10IceHUD/modules/PlayerHealth.lua:`
`14:52.08`	`CIA-12`	`IceHUD:`
`14:52.08`	`CIA-12`	`- fixed a bug where the resting icon would stay on way too long (nasty typo bug...)`
`14:52.25`	`harldephin`	`what reason could there be, that "/console gxrestart" would work with one wow client but not with another?`
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`14:56.16`	`Xinhuan`	`reason: you spelt it wrong :D`
`14:56.54`	`Recluse`	`RaydenUni: did that poster just quietly say Auctioneer was (in his opinion) a keylogger? o.O`
`14:57.12`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah he did, but further down people point him to the UICentral app`
`14:57.22`	`[Ammo]`	`it's an old post 11 jan`
`14:58.20`	`harldephin`	`Xinhuan: thanks. i'll forward that reason to the one trying to use the command.`
`14:58.53`	`Xinhuan`	`:p`
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`15:03.16`	`CIA-12`	`03next96 * r61458 10Chinchilla/locale/koKR.lua:`
`15:03.16`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla :`
`15:03.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Update locale koKR`
`15:03.39`	`Xinhuan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493404287&sid=1`
`15:03.43`	`Xinhuan`	`lol read the first post`
`15:04.03`	`haste`	`I hate it when someone posts a message just as I'm about to middle click the url`
`15:04.29`	`Xinhuan`	`there's like 20 Argent Dawn vs Blackrock posts`
`15:04.31`	`Xinhuan`	`on the AD forums`
`15:04.33`	`Xinhuan`	`BR forums`
`15:04.37`	`nevcairiel`	`what happens if i try to register a event thats not known to the game? does it error or just ignore me?`
`15:04.42`	`Xinhuan`	`and Customer service forums, and even the suggestions forum`
`15:04.48`	`Xinhuan`	`it ignores you nevcairiel`
`15:04.55`	`nevcairiel`	`good`
`15:05.13`	`Xinhuan`	`why is that good?`
`15:05.31`	`Xinhuan`	`it is deadcode that doesn't do anything in effect, and leads to hard to detect errors if you didn't realize a misspelling of an event`
`15:05.51`	`Lukian`	`RaydenUni, hmm in post 13 there someone got their gold recovered/`
`15:06.01`	`cladhaire`	`wait`
`15:06.01`	`cladhaire`	`what`
`15:06.02`	`cladhaire`	`Yet another reason to use Ace-based mods.`
`15:06.02`	`cladhaire`	`You can easily update/pick/choose/install them from a single interface that doesn't rely on packages that come as executable binaries.`
`15:06.02`	`cladhaire`	`??`
`15:06.09`	`haste`	`Xinhuan: 2.3+2.4 compat. possibly?`
`15:06.09`	`haste`	`in a odd way`
`15:06.20`	`haste`	`facepalm`
`15:06.40`	`cladhaire`	`cuz..`
`15:06.46`	`Lukian`	`cladhaire, refering to files.wowace.com , perhaps?`
`15:06.47`	`cladhaire`	`the single interface you're using, isn't an executabel.`
`15:07.00`	`cladhaire`	`Lukian: I doubt it, you can't install from there.`
`15:07.07`	`Lukian`	`true`
`15:07.17`	`nevcairiel`	`Xinhuan: yeah i want to add new combatlog parsing to HotCandy for swiftmend, and was wondering if i need if's around that :P`
`15:07.23`	`cladhaire`	`thats why i went whaaaa in the first place.`
`15:07.23`	`Lukian`	`maybe they feel 'secure' that it's a .net installation, heh.`
`15:07.40`	`Cheads`	`=)`
`15:07.45`	`[Ammo]`	`everyone has the right to be an utter retard :)`
`15:07.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I love this free world!`
`15:08.00`	`Xinhuan`	`ah`
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`15:13.10`	`Gandharva`	`what dmg-meter is working on ptr? recount (branches)?`
`15:13.51`	`CIA-12`	`03parnic * r61459 10IceHUD/modules/PlayerHealth.lua:`
`15:13.51`	`CIA-12`	`IceHUD:`
`15:13.51`	`CIA-12`	`- fixed bar transparency when going in and out of combat...hooray OOP!`
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`15:14.55`	`Lukian`	`hey Parnic, Did Iceroth's castbar breakage get fixed yet?`
`15:15.02`	`Parnic`	`what breakage is that?`
`15:15.06`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61460 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: minor fixes`
`15:15.13`	`Lukian`	`The castbar continues to show if a cast is interrupted / etc.`
`15:15.24`	`Parnic`	`i fixed a lot of stuff with the cast bar several weeks ago`
`15:15.27`	`Parnic`	`yes, those are all fixed :)`
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`15:15.33`	`Lukian`	`excellent`
`15:15.37`	`Parnic`	`all interrupted casts should cut off the bar properly`
`15:15.57`	`Lukian`	`Yeah, he broke that when I suggested a fix for something else ><`
`15:15.59`	`Lukian`	`lol`
`15:16.01`	`Parnic`	`hehe`
`15:16.19`	`Lukian`	`Excellent work on the updates btw ^_^`
`15:16.38`	`Parnic`	`thanks :) i just like being able to work on a mod. it's fun`
`15:16.46`	`Lukian`	`Would it be possible to get more standard colouring for the healthbar %ages?`
`15:16.53`	`Parnic`	`more standard?`
`15:16.58`	`Parnic`	`the colors are configurable actually`
`15:17.06`	`Lukian`	`hmm that should do`
`15:17.10`	`Lukian`	`I'll have a look now`
`15:17.11`	`Parnic`	`i've added a "mid" health color where it fades from green to yellow to red`
`15:17.17`	`Parnic`	`it used to just go green to red which created a fun brown in the middle`
`15:17.26`	`Parnic`	`but i added the yellow mid color last week`
`15:17.39`	`Lukian`	`yeah, I kinda ended up ignoring it when it was that colour, it blended into the environment too well`
`15:18.00`	`Parnic`	`it oughtta stand out now. and if you don't like the ones that are there, you can always open the color config and tweak away :)`
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`15:18.04`	`Lukian`	`and the red wasn't bright enough (when my health is critical I need to know! I'm using a hud for this reason!) :D`
`15:18.09`	`Parnic`	`they're called MaxHealthColor, MidHealthColor and MinHealthColor`
`15:18.15`	`Parnic`	`heh, i know what you mean`
`15:18.51`	`Parnic`	`the default for min health is 255, 0, 0, so it's about as full red as you can get`
`15:18.59`	`Parnic`	`i think it used to be a dampened red, but now it's full-on red.`
`15:19.09`	`Lukian`	`yeah dampened red was ftl :(`
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`15:19.14`	`Parnic`	`;)`
`15:19.28`	`Parnic`	`well i'm off to work`
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`15:19.34`	`Lukian`	`You added class colouring to names and stuff yeah?`
`15:19.41`	`Lukian`	`That's pretty sweet`
`15:19.49`	`Parnic`	`that's an option, yes. most text is dogtag-driven now`
`15:19.58`	`Lukian`	`<3 dogtag`
`15:20.03`	`Parnic`	`me too`
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`15:22.46`	`CIA-12`	`03aznamir * r61461 10PallyPower/locale/ (deDE.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua zhTW.lua):`
`15:22.46`	`CIA-12`	`PallyPower:`
`15:22.46`	`CIA-12`	`- added autobuff strings to locale files (not translated, someone has to translate them to all languages).`
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`15:27.43`	`kebinusan`	`Xinhuan: ping`
`15:27.46`	`Xinhuan`	`pong`
`15:27.55`	`kebinusan`	`I get this when adding a route in routes, http://ace.pastebin.ca/905079`
`15:28.20`	`Grum`	`kebinusan: what version do you have? trunk? files.wowace? branches still?`
`15:28.31`	`kebinusan`	`hm good question lemme double check`
`15:28.48`	`Xinhuan`	`wait, you got a GatherMate error?`
`15:28.52`	`Grum`	`no`
`15:28.56`	`Grum`	`its a 'Summarize' error`
`15:29.03`	`kebinusan`	`yeah using routes from branches`
`15:29.04`	`Grum`	`which is in GatherMate.lua`
`15:29.05`	`kebinusan`	`lemme remedy`
`15:29.12`	`Grum`	`kebinusan, there is no branches version any more :)`
`15:29.15`	`Xinhuan`	`maybe, i should nuke all the branches`
`15:29.18`	`nevcairiel`	`that sounds like a old routes version`
`15:29.25`	`nevcairiel`	`without the fix to the GM changes`
`15:29.28`	`Xinhuan`	`kagaro did the same exatc thing`
`15:29.32`	`Grum`	`yeah`
`15:29.33`	`Xinhuan`	`and updated to branches`
`15:29.34`	`Grum`	`just purge em`
`15:29.36`	`Xinhuan`	`and didn't even merge to trunk`
`15:29.42`	`Xinhuan`	`properly and just overwrote it and i had to revert`
`15:29.47`	`Grum`	`svn rm ....`
`15:30.57`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61462 10Routes/: Delete old branch`
`15:31.43`	`kebinusan`	`much better`
`15:31.47`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan 07Taboo * r61463 10Routes/: Delete old branch`
`15:32.43`	`CIA-12`	`03xinhuan * r61464 10/branches/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Remove All GatherMate related branches`
`15:33.42`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm did i forget anything`
`15:34.40`	`Kivin`	`There's no way to alter the meta tables of a frame without breaking the frame, yes?`
`15:35.19`	`Xinhuan`	`you can alter the metatable directly`
`15:35.21`	`Xinhuan`	`just not replace it`
`15:35.42`	`Kivin`	`hmm.. alright. probably easier to just embed the functions into the frame itself`
`15:36.24`	`Lukian`	`AceLoale-2.2.lua:487: Babble-Zone-2.2: Translation "Magister's Terrace" does not exist.`
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`15:36.35`	`Lukian`	`Locale, even`
`15:36.41`	`Xinhuan`	`heh, people still use babblezone2.0?`
`15:36.46`	`Xinhuan`	`i thought everyone uses 3.0 now`
`15:37.00`	`nevcairiel`	`old addons use 2`
`15:37.06`	`[Ammo]`	`bigwigs uses 2.2`
`15:37.26`	`Xinhuan`	`any reason not to upgrade ammo?`
`15:37.26`	Funkeh`	`big deal`
`15:37.27`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug`
`15:37.47`	Funkeh`	`upgrade is debatable, more like sidegrade`
`15:38.04`	`Xinhuan`	`alright, you have a point, but i think 3.0 is more updated than 2.2 now`
`15:38.14`	`nevcairiel`	`i wouldnt agree on that`
`15:38.18`	Funkeh`	`zone and boss? no`
`15:38.25`	Funkeh`	`i usually update both of those`
`15:38.25`	`nevcairiel`	`translators tend to update 2.2 more`
`15:38.34`	Funkeh`	`indeedy`
`15:38.55`	`Xinhuan`	`will bigwigs3 use 3.0 or 2.2?`
`15:38.59`	`Xinhuan`	`or neither?`
`15:39.01`	Funkeh`	`3. obviously`
`15:39.04`	`Xinhuan`	`since you have boss IDs`
`15:39.11`	Funkeh`	`they are not permanent`
`15:39.15`	`[Ammo]`	`they are :)`
`15:39.17`	`nevcairiel`	`ids are permanent`
`15:39.17`	`[Ammo]`	`part of them are`
`15:39.19`	`[Ammo]`	`ids are`
`15:39.23`	`[Ammo]`	`so boss will go down the drain`
`15:39.24`	`nevcairiel`	`but you only get them on engage`
`15:39.31`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno if thats too late for some mods`
`15:39.37`	Funkeh`	`you can't get them on mouseover`
`15:39.39`	Funkeh`	`iirc`
`15:39.47`	`Xinhuan`	`you can get them on Hunter's Mark ;p`
`15:39.54`	`Xinhuan`	`combat log event HEHE`
`15:39.54`	`nevcairiel`	`thats sucky :P`
`15:40.05`	`Lukian`	`Xinhuan, yeah I was thinking that XD`
`15:40.06`	Funkeh`	`so will need boss for enabling modules`
`15:40.10`	`nevcairiel`	`can you huntersmark illidan before engage?`
`15:40.18`	`Xinhuan`	`don't think so`
`15:40.28`	`Xinhuan`	`but you can listen to MONSTTER YELL for that one`
`15:40.30`	`nevcairiel`	Funkeh`: you could just enable the modules on engage
`15:40.32`	`Lukian`	`Do you need to know boss name before engage?`
`15:40.35`	`Xinhuan`	`not every boss needs to be enabled by mouseover`
`15:40.41`	Funkeh`	`why?`
`15:41.01`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well that will be up to Ammo and vhaarr anyway`
`15:41.01`	Funkeh`	`the current system is fine and ultimately there no way to completel get rid of BB`
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`15:41.37`	Funkeh`	`ye and me`
`15:41.47`	`Xinhuan`	`would you consider enabling RoS module on mouseover of some of the mobs prior to RoS itself?`
`15:42.03`	Funkeh`	`i'm not saying it's not possible`
`15:42.16`	Funkeh`	`i'm saying there is no way to completely remove the need for babble boss at the moment`
`15:42.22`	Funkeh`	`so why bother changing the oher modules`
`15:42.36`	`Xinhuan`	`because its a bit of a pain not to have it enabled on engage for ROS on the first attempt if you forget to enable it manually`
`15:42.41`	`kebinusan`	`are there sub zones in instances?`
`15:42.48`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`15:42.51`	`kebinusan`	`couldnt you just enable/disable based ont hose`
`15:43.19`	Funkeh`	`not going to debate for a solution when there isn't a problem`
`15:43.20`	`nevcairiel`	`again needs translation :P`
`15:43.44`	`nevcairiel`	`the problem is, translations are bad, not needing them is good :)`
`15:44.16`	`[Ammo]`	`if there is a reliable way to enable each module through a combat event that would be sweet`
`15:44.24`	`[Ammo]`	`no translations = good`
`15:44.48`	`Xinhuan`	`the only suggestion i can give is to enable a boss module on engaging a mob that you know is unique to the trash just before the boss`
`15:45.01`	`Xinhuan`	`how about that?`
`15:45.03`	`cladhaire`	`someone make a case for UnitGUID()`
`15:45.05`	`cladhaire`	`and post about it`
`15:45.12`	`cladhaire`	`so they have time to think on it, and respond`
`15:45.12`	`[Ammo]`	`there are multiple ways to achieve the goal`
`15:45.19`	`Xinhuan`	`you can get the mobID`
`15:45.23`	`Xinhuan`	`of the trash`
`15:45.36`	`[Ammo]`	`UnitGUID is a good idea so you have the GUID when mouseovering / targetting`
`15:46.05`	`nevcairiel`	`i am pretty sure there is a reason they didnt include it, the case you build for it would have to be pretty good`
`15:46.23`	`Grum`	`maybe they can allow UnitGUID inside instances`
`15:46.37`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: you dont' know until you ask`
`15:46.37`	`Grum`	`i can see how it can be abused outside it - but inside it? kinda unlikely`
`15:46.44`	`cladhaire`	`and not asking, means 2.4's codebase freezes, and you're screwed`
`15:46.45`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: we did :P`
`15:46.52`	`cladhaire`	`where?`
`15:47.01`	`kebinusan`	`if it can be abused in some fashion it would be`
`15:47.02`	`[Ammo]`	`ask Xinhuan :)`
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`15:47.26`	`nevcairiel`	`Xinhuan is in the same guild as alexander yoshi :P`
`15:47.31`	`Xinhuan`	`^_^`
`15:47.39`	`Grum`	`Xinhuan owns alex`
`15:47.43`	`Grum`	`!`
`15:47.56`	`Xinhuan`	`he owns me :<`
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`15:50.14`	`CIA-12`	`03gnarfoz * r61465 10PallyPower/locale/deDE.lua: PallyPower: update deDE`
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`15:53.47`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61466 10LittleTrouble/ (LittleTrouble.lua embeds.xml):`
`15:53.47`	`CIA-12`	`LittleTrouble:`
`15:53.47`	`CIA-12`	`* Removed use of AceLocale.`
`15:54.04`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61467 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:`
`15:54.04`	`CIA-12`	`LittleTrouble:`
`15:54.04`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed bugs that removal of AceLocale introduced.`
`15:55.47`	`Recluse`	`Anyone know if I getting it wrong, or is this a bug? (DogTag) http://i26.tinypic.com/epoo52.jpg`
`15:56.20`	`nevcairiel`	`looks like a floating point precission error`
`15:56.53`	`Recluse`	`so it's not something that I'm doing wrong? :p`
`15:57.38`	`Xinhuan`	`"There is a global function in the new combat log code you can use (or copy). I don't have access to my current code to give you the exact name, but it is something like Combat_Log_Object_IsA. You pass in the object flag (destFlag, etc...) and one of global flag values/filters, and it returns a boolean indicating if the object is of the global flag type."`
`15:57.44`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm Grayhoof just posted that`
`15:58.05`	`nevcairiel`	`hm?`
`15:58.10`	`nevcairiel`	`that only matches bitflags`
`15:58.17`	`nevcairiel`	`its a wrapper for bit.bor`
`15:58.24`	`nevcairiel`	`basically`
`15:58.28`	`Xinhuan`	`wonder if its more efficient`
`15:58.36`	`nevcairiel`	`look at it`
`15:58.38`	`nevcairiel`	`its not long`
`15:59.18`	`nevcairiel`	`http://ace.pastey.net/82276`
`16:00.05`	`Xinhuan`	`that's a lot of bit.band calls`
`16:00.35`	`nevcairiel`	`they do that to mask out stray bits`
`16:00.35`	`Xinhuan`	`and a iterator over the passed in values on top of a table creation`
`16:00.46`	`Xinhuan`	`i would think blizzard's implementation is better`
`16:00.49`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah would be better to use a forloop over select('#', ...)`
`16:01.03`	`Xinhuan`	`still a lot of function calls`
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`16:02.35`	`Xinhuan`	`"You have no characters that are in the process of being copied."`
`16:02.37`	`Xinhuan`	`WOOOO`
`16:02.40`	`Xinhuan`	`copied!`
`16:03.18`	`nevcairiel`	`better check if it really arrived`
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`16:03.38`	`Xinhuan`	`i am, but it says i have to download this patch`
`16:03.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`I got a level 1 shaman named like my level 70 rogue`
`16:04.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`and char copy queue is full :<`
`16:04.24`	`Xinhuan`	`bleh 34 mb patch`
`16:04.31`	`Xinhuan`	`that will take time`
`16:06.20`	`Recluse`	`34mb would take hours w/bliz dloader lol`
`16:06.34`	`nevcairiel`	`took me like 5 minutes earlier today`
`16:06.37`	`Xinhuan`	`actually it'll only take about 6 minutes on the blizz downloader`
`16:06.48`	`Xinhuan`	`its about 30% done now`
`16:06.56`	`[Ammo]`	`anyone have a link for me to download the ptr?`
`16:06.58`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`16:07.04`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`16:07.04`	`[Ammo]`	`my download is severely corrupy`
`16:07.25`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`16:07.29`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll try to find link`
`16:07.45`	`CIA-12`	`03chexsum * r61468 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc embeds.xml):`
`16:07.45`	`CIA-12`	`CombatAlert:`
`16:07.45`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed a few errors and a couple of typos :P`
`16:07.45`	`CIA-12`	`- Changed default alert colours`
`16:07.45`	`CIA-12`	`# Cast events arent working :(`
`16:07.46`	`Stanzilla`	`Xinhuan: I get the successfully copied message, too but there is no char on the ptr -.-`
`16:07.47`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors`
`16:07.50`	`nevcairiel`	`should have it`
`16:07.54`	`Recluse`	`for some reason mine's borked and it trickles (1-2kbps). i just load it in my utorrent and get phenomenal speeds`
`16:08.13`	`Xinhuan`	`my link is blizzard's direct download link`
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`16:08.17`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think youw ant that ;p`
`16:08.31`	`nevcairiel`	`http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ always served me well`
`16:08.36`	`Xinhuan`	`Recluse, its usually due to firewall settings`
`16:09.02`	`Snago`	`Recluse: Yeah, uTorrent >>> Blizz downloader`
`16:09.15`	`Recluse`	`Xinhuan: yep, went through all that setting checking :p`
`16:09.24`	Funkeh`	`UPnP enabled router?`
`16:09.38`	`Kivin`	`"Excuse me can u plzz help me get 100g for my guild bank??"`
`16:09.39`	`Recluse`	`nay`
`16:11.36`	`Recluse`	`imo, if you can't get 100g on your own, you have no business running a guild XD`
`16:12.08`	`Xinhuan`	`is SCT, MSBT or Parrot getting updated for 2.4 ~_~`
`16:12.14`	`Lukian`	`Recluse, personal use :D`
`16:12.31`	`Xinhuan`	`haven't quite seen anything regarding those 3`
`16:12.31`	`cladhaire`	`anyone have a one-liner that adds messages when someone starts casting a spell?`
`16:12.40`	`Stanzilla`	`Xinhuan: MSBT is..`
`16:12.40`	`cladhaire`	`ideally if i'm the target :P`
`16:12.43`	`Lukian`	`Xinhuan, neh, I've been annoyed at parrot & sct lately, either of them lag me`
`16:12.45`	`Xinhuan`	`adds messages?`
`16:12.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`Xinhuan: I'm sure one of them will be, FCT is simply not enough :>`
`16:12.48`	`Lukian`	`haven't tried msbt yet`
`16:12.52`	`Recluse`	`Lukian: well, i have several bank toon guilds, but never needed to beg for money to open their gbank lol`
`16:13.00`	`cladhaire`	`Xinhuan: yeah to FCT or UIPAnel`
`16:13.08`	`cladhaire`	`err errors frame`
`16:13.26`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm not really, i'm not familiar with 2.4 combat log yet`
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`16:21.03`	`chexsum`	`you dont get cast recipient info until the cast is successful afaik`
`16:21.19`	`chexsum`	`unless im looking at the wrong event`
`16:21.52`	`Josh_Borke`	`eh?`
`16:22.09`	`Xinhuan`	`The names over the heads of nearby players who are on your friends list will appear in a different color now so you can tell when they are nearby.`
`16:22.11`	`CIA-12`	`03jncl * r61469 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Chinchilla, HealOrganizer & SystemMessageControlTool`
`16:22.11`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`16:23.45`	`Gandharva`	`hm, quartz broken on ptr?`
`16:23.46`	`Xinhuan`	`according to my PTR login screen, my character is copied :)`
`16:24.05`	`Silowyi`	`!c us whisperwind morphazz`
`16:24.08`	`ThraeBot`	`Silowyi: Morphazz, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (11/0/50). 12134 HP; 14954 Armour; 662 AP; 129.400 Melee DPS; 6.32% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 338 defense; 15.83% dodge; 24.60% block; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1165 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvqgkt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2r36ps ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 11:33:17 2008 EST ]]`
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`16:24.24`	`Grum`	`gnomesftw`
`16:24.40`	`chexsum`	`quartz works fine for me but i only use self/target/focus bars`
`16:24.47`	`Xinhuan`	`logging in...`
`16:25.01`	`Xinhuan`	`You have earned the title "Xinhuanbr, Hand of A'dal".`
`16:25.06`	`Xinhuan`	`HEHE`
`16:25.22`	`chexsum`	`is tha from the quest where you do 3 heroics ?`
`16:25.31`	`Civrock`	`Just like 99% of the lvl 70 PTR population, lol.`
`16:25.37`	`dylanm`	`That's BT attunement.`
`16:25.37`	`chexsum`	`i still need to save milhouse :(`
`16:25.47`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`16:25.52`	`Xinhuan`	`the default combat log UI isn't half bad`
`16:26.04`	`Ozguli`	`wtf is that melee dps? 129k?`
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`16:26.18`	`chexsum`	`i just hate the buttons`
`16:26.31`	`dylanm`	`That's a decimal point.`
`16:26.43`	`chexsum`	`they should move the buttons into config checkboxes`
`16:26.54`	`Xinhuan`	`so first thing i checked on AH`
`16:27.04`	`Xinhuan`	`i see tons of nether vortexes and primal nethers`
`16:27.07`	`cladhaire`	`chexsum: its not finished.`
`16:27.08`	`dylanm`	`Haha.`
`16:27.11`	`cladhaire`	`chexsum: so.. yeah`
`16:27.14`	`dylanm`	`Look into the future.`
`16:27.49`	`chexsum`	`theyre noob to throw buttons in there :(`
`16:28.09`	`cladhaire`	`you do realize that they develop ahead of what you see`
`16:28.11`	`cladhaire`	`like.. they code things`
`16:28.16`	`cladhaire`	`and then someone builds the PTR`
`16:28.25`	`cladhaire`	`so, what they've coded, half the time isn't in the builds`
`16:28.39`	`Silowyi`	`wait wait`
`16:28.40`	`cladhaire`	`i know you realize this`
`16:28.43`	`Silowyi`	`primal nethers are boe?`
`16:28.46`	`Silowyi`	`in 2.4?`
`16:28.49`	`Silowyi`	`yay!`
`16:28.51`	`chexsum`	`yeah but someone put the buttons on there`
`16:29.03`	`cladhaire`	`...`
`16:29.04`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`16:29.09`	`cladhaire`	`when the were rewriting the whole damn system`
`16:29.17`	`cladhaire`	`as a temporary measure`
`16:29.18`	`chexsum`	`still...`
`16:29.22`	`chexsum`	`big ass buttons`
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`16:29.26`	`cladhaire`	`sigh`
`16:29.27`	`cladhaire`	`get over it`
`16:29.33`	`wereHamster`	`does #table work on tables with non-numeral indices?`
`16:29.37`	`cladhaire`	`wereHamster: no`
`16:29.39`	`cladhaire`	`well`
`16:29.40`	`cladhaire`	`yes it does`
`16:29.42`	`cladhaire`	`it just will return 0`
`16:29.45`	`cladhaire`	`if the array part is 0`
`16:30.02`	`cladhaire`	`that's four times i've been killed bya blood elf paladin`
`16:30.03`	`Xinhuan`	`if the array contains both numeric and non-numeric, it'll only work on the numeric part`
`16:30.05`	`chexsum`	`ptr needs a addon kit so we can get rid of that junk without effort`
`16:30.08`	`cladhaire`	`in 20 minutes`
`16:30.14`	`cladhaire`	`chexsum: it HAS an addon kit.`
`16:30.18`	Funkeh`	`it has one`
`16:30.20`	`chexsum`	`oh`
`16:30.23`	`cladhaire`	`jesus`
`16:30.34`	`chexsum`	`link ?`
`16:30.39`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`16:30.41`	`cladhaire`	`its the same one you use for live`
`16:30.43`	`cladhaire`	`it ext racts both`
`16:30.44`	`cladhaire`	`magically`
`16:30.50`	`chexsum`	`oh`
`16:31.24`	`chexsum`	`wow i never noticed`
`16:31.36`	`wereHamster`	`is there a builtin function to count the number of elements in a table (with non-numeral indices)`
`16:31.49`	`cladhaire`	`wereHamster: no`
`16:31.54`	`cladhaire`	`just iterate and count`
`16:32.05`	`cladhaire`	`=/`
`16:32.13`	`wereHamster`	`was hoping for something I could reuse :)`
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`16:32.27`	`keiss`	`you can make a function and reuse that ? :)`
`16:32.40`	`cladhaire`	`function table.getn(tbl) local c = 0 for k,v in pairs(tbl) do c = c + 1 return c end`
`16:32.44`	`cladhaire`	`tadaaa!`
`16:32.45`	`cladhaire`	`:P`
`16:32.53`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61470 10Routes/ (Locales/Locale-frFR.lua Routes.lua): Routes: frFR Update`
`16:33.28`	`cladhaire`	`yay for questing in STV`
`16:33.29`	`cladhaire`	`O.o`
`16:33.36`	Funkeh`	`fuck stv`
`16:33.38`	Funkeh`	`i hate it`
`16:33.40`	`cladhaire`	`good to see nothing changes`
`16:33.51`	`chexsum`	`i holy novad that place the other day for a guildy`
`16:33.59`	`[Ammo]`	`wwstv owns`
`16:34.01`	`CIA-12`	`03hedin * r61471 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Changed timer to 10 seconds for WF and Shocks so that you could compare time on thous CDs`
`16:34.04`	`[Ammo]`	`specially on pvp server`
`16:34.06`	`[Ammo]`	`it's the best`
`16:34.10`	Funkeh`	`nooooo`
`16:34.11`	`[Ammo]`	`kill and be killed`
`16:34.11`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`16:34.28`	`Lukian`	`on thous, fun.`
`16:34.32`	`chexsum`	`i seen some 30s ally questing and BOOM HOLY NOVA (DEAD ALY)`
`16:34.39`	`chexsum`	`hehe`
`16:34.58`	`chexsum`	`i hope they were new players!`
`16:35.09`	`Gandharva`	`quartz swingtimer seems broken. rest works.`
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`16:35.40`	`cladhaire`	`i've killed 3 tho :P`
`16:35.50`	`cladhaire`	`well not paladins`
`16:35.51`	`cladhaire`	`they don't die.`
`16:36.28`	`chexsum`	`stv is when you start dual boxing :\`
`16:36.38`	`[Ammo]`	`Gandharva: swing timer isn't updated for 2.4 combat events`
`16:37.03`	`Gandharva`	`ah thx for the info. so ill just wait :)`
`16:37.37`	`chexsum`	`they should add more to dwm so horde has a place to level apart from stv`
`16:37.52`	`chexsum`	`its a block on pvp servers`
`16:38.00`	`cladhaire`	`i can't help killing a shaman who didn't drop any totems`
`16:38.11`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61472 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:`
`16:38.11`	`CIA-12`	`LittleTrouble:`
`16:38.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated the locales.`
`16:38.11`	`CIA-12`	`- Removed dead code.`
`16:38.17`	`[Ammo]`	`I can't help but at least trying to kill anything with a red nametag`
`16:38.18`	`chexsum`	`shaman who dont totem are stupid`
`16:38.27`	`[Ammo]`	`if it's red it's supposed to be dead`
`16:38.34`	`chexsum`	`thats the whole point of them`
`16:38.40`	`Lukian`	`<chexsum> they should add more to dwm so horde has a place to level apart from stv <- mudsprocket/etc isn't enough?`
`16:38.53`	Funkeh`	`Has anyone got the embeded textures in fontstrings working yet`
`16:38.55`	`Lukian`	`as alliance I get about 4 levels out of dwm now`
`16:38.58`	`chexsum`	`whats mudsprocket`
`16:39.03`	`Lukian`	`rofl.`
`16:39.10`	`chexsum`	`the new place ?`
`16:39.10`	`Lukian`	`l2readpatchnotes`
`16:39.15`	`Lukian`	`yes`
`16:39.25`	`chexsum`	`i havent experienced it`
`16:39.45`	`chexsum`	`6 70s is enough for me`
`16:40.01`	`Lukian`	`I barely touch stv these days`
`16:40.08`	`Lukian`	`maybe 1 level of quests if that, all in the south end`
`16:40.18`	`cladhaire`	`i'm grinding on the mastery quests atm`
`16:40.21`	`cladhaire`	`working towards 38`
`16:40.33`	`Lukian`	`I skipped those on my last ^_^`
`16:41.01`	`chexsum`	`i tried so hard to get leather bracers on my rogue/druid in stv while <39 but i never escaped the twinks`
`16:41.46`	`chexsum`	`i got lucky with drops on every char to be fairly twinked but never got the stv arena stuff`
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`16:42.21`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61473 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:`
`16:42.21`	`CIA-12`	`Nudge:`
`16:42.21`	`CIA-12`	`- Removed unused date/version variables.`
`16:42.24`	`chexsum`	`39 druid twink > all imho`
`16:42.50`	`Lukian`	`fleetfoot, how about auto standy for when it's not loaded on a hunter?`
`16:42.53`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61474 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:`
`16:42.53`	`CIA-12`	`Nudge:`
`16:42.53`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated locale.`
`16:43.00`	`Lukian`	`standby*`
`16:43.04`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61475 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:`
`16:43.04`	`CIA-12`	`Nudge:`
`16:43.04`	`CIA-12`	`- Prettied up the locale section.`
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`16:43.32`	`chexsum`	`fast coder`
`16:43.38`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`16:43.39`	`Snago`	`What does Nudge do?`
`16:43.54`	`Lukian`	`Snago, it's for hunters, it shows visual range to target`
`16:43.59`	`chexsum`	`budges revisions`
`16:44.01`	`fleetfoot`	`Its just a range indicator for melee/ranged zones`
`16:44.02`	`Lukian`	`it's less useful now that deadzone is gone`
`16:44.12`	`Snago`	`aha, thanks`
`16:44.28`	`fleetfoot`	`What was that lukian about auto standby?`
`16:44.41`	`chexsum`	`how does nudge notify you`
`16:44.47`	`Lukian`	`fleetfoot, it's not much use having Nudge loaded on my mage`
`16:44.53`	`TNSe`	`is the debuff limit 32 or 40`
`16:44.59`	`Lukian`	`chexsum, a small coloured frame on the screen`
`16:45.24`	`fleetfoot`	`Lukian: Ahh okay, yeah, ill prolly cave and just add that`
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`16:45.28`	`Snago`	`if select(2, UnitClass("player") ~= "HUNTER" then return end in the top of the file :)`
`16:45.49`	`Erica`	`I'm having a heck of a time getting chinchilla to stay where I put it...`
`16:45.50`	`kebinusan`	`does the taboo thing for routes require something additional`
`16:46.04`	`Snago`	`s/")/"))`
`16:46.10`	`Erica`	`is there some sort of issue with libjostle still?`
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`16:46.19`	`kebinusan`	`ah nm Im an idiot`
`16:46.48`	`Stanzilla`	`Erica: seems so`
`16:46.54`	`SunTsu`	`Erica: Well, do you know real life chinchillas? If you did this wouldn't be a surprise to you ;)`
`16:47.08`	`Erica`	`lol`
`16:47.12`	`Erica`	`Thanks I needed that`
`16:47.21`	`Lukian`	`I was wondering what Chinchilla was too`
`16:47.38`	`Xinhuan`	`what is it kebinusan`
`16:47.45`	`Erica`	`I've been wanting a minimap like this for a while and now it just won't be still`
`16:47.51`	`chexsum`	`~kebinusan`
`16:47.52`	`purl`	`rumour has it, kebinusan is a noob`
`16:48.09`	`kebinusan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:48.14`	`chexsum`	`lol`
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`16:48.23`	`Cryect-Work`	`anyone know some good software for rendering graphs (the programming kind not the excel type)`
`16:48.30`	`Erica`	`I think CK scared his chinchilla when he took his pants off`
`16:48.44`	`Cryect-Work`	`oh my`
`16:48.45`	`Recluse`	`D=`
`16:49.01`	`Xinhuan`	`you havent seen my commit note that said I "doubled the punishment on ants for walking across taboo regions by a factor of 2 and the zone width" ;p`
`16:49.15`	`Xinhuan`	`plus* the zone width`
`16:49.20`	`Erica`	`no I haven't rofl`
`16:49.23`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`16:49.38`	`kebinusan`	`I saw the taboo thing and picked an herb that It hought thats annoying to be in my route`
`16:49.45`	`kebinusan`	`so I wanted to get rid of it`
`16:50.14`	`kebinusan`	`and for osme reason I had the crazy idea that I should just select some subzone from a dropdown on the taboo thing`
`16:50.23`	`Xinhuan`	`you will ideally use taboo regions to mark caves/islands, etc`
`16:50.35`	`Xinhuan`	`and/or mark out enemy faction towns you don't want to fly over`
`16:50.49`	`Xinhuan`	`or tall mountains like that silly hand of Guldan`
`16:50.52`	`Lukian`	`Xinhuan, default taboo sets? go go!`
`16:50.56`	`Recluse`	`i'd like to see Taboo grown into NoFly/Impassable w/faction settings =3`
`16:51.16`	`Xinhuan`	`feel free to make 2 different routes`
`16:51.22`	`dylanm`	`That sounds like a lot of work.`
`16:51.35`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61476 10Chinchilla/locale/frFR.lua: Chinchilla: frFR Update`
`16:51.35`	`Xinhuan`	`or rather, 2 of the same exact route nodes, with different taboos attached`
`16:51.45`	`Xinhuan`	`of course it'll be annoying to show/hide them`
`16:59.23`	Funkeh`	`Let me get this straight, we can have icons in chatframe/rw frame but not actually use it in sendchatmessage?`
`16:59.45`	`nevcairiel`	`locally to the client you can do whatever you want`
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`16:59.57`	`nevcairiel`	`just not through chat channels, right`
`17:00.13`	`nevcairiel`	`however you can use the raid icons`
`17:00.44`	`Recluse`	`eh? graphical smileys in chat? :P`
`17:00.50`	`Daemona`	`http://tinyurl.com/3dk9jr -> ptr fun :D`
`17:01.27`	Funkeh`	`right, well chatframe works, but RW seems somewhat trickier RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, "\124TInterface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_WordFortitude:32\124t is the icon for Power Word: Fortitude")`
`17:01.32`	`nevcairiel`	`its seriously stupid that the bear is a 100% drop`
`17:02.12`	`Daemona`	`well its a 100% drop for fast clears... honestly at the speed we currently manage to clear... you could trim the window 5minutes smaller`
`17:02.19`	`break19`	`Daemona: holy shit.. I'd be getting less than 1fps there..`
`17:02.19`	`chiper`	`its seriously stupid that the mount drop in magister's terrace is horde only`
`17:02.43`	`Daemona`	`break19 13fps -.-`
`17:02.58`	`Gagorian`	`chiper: Alliance has an own drop, have the not?`
`17:03.08`	`Gagorian`	`s/the/they/`
`17:03.14`	`Recluse`	`chiper: allies get winterspring mount!`
`17:03.18`	`break19`	`mine would be like.. 0.25fps.. damn this little ibook..`
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`17:03.39`	`chiper`	`I hadn't seen that yet, but meh. I want an ostrich dammit`
`17:04.19`	`break19`	`winterspring mount is an epic mount that doesnt require epic riding.`
`17:04.40`	`nevcairiel`	`not like anyone doesnt have epic riding now`
`17:04.41`	`kebinusan`	`character copy seems to be back up`
`17:04.48`	`Stanzilla`	`now someone killed me`
`17:04.49`	`Stanzilla`	`damnit`
`17:04.51`	`chiper`	`whoa, primal nether aren't BOP any more.`
`17:05.01`	`break19`	`chiper: you're just now noticing that?`
`17:05.02`	`chiper`	`I wonder if they're taking it off the badge vendor then`
`17:05.06`	`kebinusan`	`chiper probably a bug`
`17:05.10`	`nevcairiel`	`Stanzilla: lets team up and kill Daemona :P`
`17:05.22`	`break19`	`here's the question tho.. is it boe just to help with testing? or will it stay boe`
`17:05.23`	`Daemona`	`you loose, cause its pve and i am not flagged`
`17:05.29`	`chiper`	`break19: I'm just now reading mmo-champion, yes. excuse me for not reading it first thing when I weak up in the morning`
`17:05.51`	`break19`	`chiper: well, dammit.. you SHOULD.. by god, its the most important thing you can do in the mornings!@!`
`17:06.12`	`Daemona`	`goddamn the wandering combat log is pissing me of ...`
`17:06.25`	`nevcairiel`	`just dont pull it out of the chatframe`
`17:06.25`	`Daemona`	`did noone tell em so it could have been fixed yesterday with the patch?`
`17:06.29`	`chiper`	`wandering?`
`17:06.32`	`nevcairiel`	`sure they know`
`17:06.38`	`Daemona`	`whats the use of not seeing chat + combat log the same time?`
`17:06.48`	`sb_`	`oh? not possible?`
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`17:06.52`	`Stanzilla`	`nevcairiel: lol I'm a lvl 2 bloodelf pala :P`
`17:06.53`	`sb_`	`didnt test :)`
`17:07.00`	`nevcairiel`	`Stanzilla: meh gogo char copy`
`17:07.07`	`Bibi`	`you'd better have a VERY good excuse for not checking mmo-champion every hour chiper.`
`17:07.08`	`Bibi`	`:/`
`17:07.12`	`Stanzilla`	`I copied last week -.-`
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`17:07.24`	`sb_`	`Bibi: every 15 minutes!!!`
`17:07.25`	`nevcairiel`	`too early, you had to copy after monday :P`
`17:07.27`	`chiper`	`bibi: I has a job`
`17:07.47`	`Stanzilla`	`meh`
`17:07.52`	`Stanzilla`	`I will try it again tonight`
`17:08.01`	`sb_`	`Daemona: pfff - ignore :p`
`17:08.13`	`nevcairiel`	`its seriously stupid to un-BoP Primal Nether and Nether Vortex`
`17:08.17`	`nevcairiel`	`totally destroys economy`
`17:08.17`	`Daemona`	`hu? no minimized, the instane is down`
`17:08.32`	`Xinhuan`	`it means i can sell my 410 heroic badges`
`17:08.42`	`nevcairiel`	`plus raid bosses drop heroic badges`
`17:08.43`	`nevcairiel`	`wtf`
`17:08.47`	`Daemona`	`or you go and buy t6 equivalent weapons !`
`17:08.49`	`Xinhuan`	`it will count towards my 214k fund`
`17:08.59`	`sb_`	`Daemona: nah - nvm, you told me that you want to ignore me! :p`
`17:09.05`	`kebinusan`	`nevcairiel: I agree`
`17:09.11`	`nevcairiel`	`Daemona: what weapons?`
`17:09.26`	`sb_`	`is heroic badge vendor back?`
`17:09.30`	`Daemona`	`haha rumours are the best nevcairiel arnt they? ;)`
`17:09.32`	`Stanzilla`	`nevcairiel: are you on the ptr already with your main?`
`17:09.34`	`chiper`	`ckknight: you actually watching the channel now?`
`17:09.36`	`nevcairiel`	`Stanzilla: yes`
`17:09.44`	`ckknight`	`chiper: I suppose so`
`17:09.45`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`17:09.47`	`keiss`	`sb_: he is upstairs from where he was`
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`17:09.57`	`sb_`	`ahh`
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`17:10.07`	`chiper`	`ckknight: I tried to get your attention last night, but I guess you weren't looking, dispite making commits :)`
`17:10.17`	`Guardix`	`I need some opinions here! Which of these codes are better, lua performance wise? http://guardix.pastey.net/82284 or http://guardix.pastey.net/82283`
`17:10.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i still think the primal nether/nether vortex change will be reverted`
`17:10.27`	`nevcairiel`	`or, i hope`
`17:10.30`	`Fisker-`	`believe it`
`17:10.40`	`EvilJohn`	`I don't think it will`
`17:10.57`	`EvilJohn`	`getting close to expansion, they want to get the stragglers through content`
`17:11.00`	`EvilJohn`	`this will help`
`17:11.05`	`Xinhuan`	`Guardix, i don't think it matters at all.`
`17:11.10`	`kebinusan`	`the druid arena set change makes me lol`
`17:11.15`	`ckknight`	`chiper: well, it's daytime now and I'm awake`
`17:11.17`	`kebinusan`	`I dont think Ive never seen a druid even try to cast healing touch`
`17:11.22`	`nevcairiel`	`and even more heroic badges on raid bosses?`
`17:11.23`	`Guardix`	`Xinhuan: not at all :o?`
`17:11.24`	`chiper`	`ckknight: chinchilla seems to be reporting the minimap shape upside down, tho I couldn't find the cause of it in the code. ace based minimap buttons (ie, fubar buttons) are following an upside-down drag shape`
`17:11.27`	`Xinhuan`	`if-then-else is faster than a table lookup generally speaking`
`17:11.27`	`nevcairiel`	`not like you kinda overflow with those already`
`17:11.34`	`Xinhuan`	`even if it has to evaluate multiple IFs`
`17:11.43`	`Xinhuan`	`feel free to test it with a 10000 loop`
`17:11.49`	`Guardix`	`:p`
`17:11.50`	`chiper`	`ckknight: so, like, I had a square, rounded top minimap, and it was dragging as if it were square rounded-bottom`
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`17:11.52`	`Guardix`	`no thx =)`
`17:11.55`	`Xinhuan`	`especially if the tests are just == equality tests`
`17:11.57`	`kebinusan`	`but yeah, our guild bank pretty much relies on selling vortexes to supply repair monies, potions, etc`
`17:12.10`	`nevcairiel`	`we just sell bt/mh epic gems :D`
`17:12.24`	`EvilJohn`	`see I don't get that`
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`17:12.31`	`kebinusan`	`seaspray emeralds arent in much demand and we havent gottent o the point where we have enough of anything else to sell`
`17:12.33`	`EvilJohn`	`you sell vortexs to yourself`
`17:12.40`	`EvilJohn`	`to pay for things the player should bring anyway`
`17:12.57`	`kebinusan`	`no, they are given free to crafters who sell belts to people`
`17:13.01`	`nevcairiel`	`we dont supply repair costs or potions`
`17:13.07`	`kebinusan`	`or we bring in warriors wanting a stunherald`
`17:13.14`	`nevcairiel`	`only thing we do supply is resist gear`
`17:13.20`	`nevcairiel`	`like full mats for full shadow resist gear`
`17:13.30`	`nevcairiel`	`that was kinda expensive :P`
`17:13.44`	`kebinusan`	`our bank pays for repairs, any potions, oils, elixirs, flasks, etc even helps with enchanting mats`
`17:13.51`	`nevcairiel`	`wtf`
`17:14.03`	`EvilJohn`	`no, you pay for it`
`17:14.23`	`Xinhuan`	`ckknight, i am reporting that gathermate and routes are correctly displayed whatever the minimap shape is out of all the choices ^^`
`17:14.27`	`nevcairiel`	`"oh anothe wipe" - "not so bad, bank pays"`
`17:14.29`	`Xinhuan`	`for chinchilla`
`17:14.46`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61477 10Chinchilla/Coordinates/Coordinates.lua:`
`17:14.46`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla_Coordinates - hide in places that can't get coordinates (e.g. instances)`
`17:14.46`	`CIA-12`	`CHIN-7`
`17:14.53`	`nevcairiel`	`my minimap code in GM is ftw, i tell ya!`
`17:14.59`	`chiper`	`ours has pots, enchanting mats, jem mats, and BOE 70 blues to help jumpstart alts`
`17:15.09`	`Xinhuan`	`you have yet to write the minimap code in HandyNotes nevcairiel`
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`17:15.19`	`ckknight`	`chiper: I should fix LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 and FuBarPlugin-2.0, then`
`17:15.22`	`kebinusan`	`we kept gaining money in the bank so started covering more and more stuff`
`17:15.22`	`cladhaire`	`wtf is handynotes`
`17:15.29`	`nevcairiel`	`its a crappy name`
`17:15.34`	`chiper`	`ckknight: ah, so it's a fubar bug, ok`
`17:15.36`	`nevcairiel`	`in desperate need for a new one`
`17:15.54`	`break19`	`how bout HandyDandyNotePad ?`
`17:15.56`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: but what does it do, heh`
`17:15.57`	`Xinhuan`	`a standalone mapnotes addon that i named, for the lack of a better name`
`17:16.02`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: MapNotes`
`17:16.06`	`cladhaire`	`ah`
`17:16.06`	`dylanm`	`It was a notebook break19.`
`17:16.09`	`dylanm`	`CALL IT TOMTOM`
`17:16.18`	`kebinusan`	`DAVEDAVE`
`17:16.23`	`cladhaire`	`SUESUE`
`17:16.23`	`Xinhuan`	`see, nevcairiel named his addon Mapster`
`17:16.24`	`cladhaire`	`i hate you`
`17:16.27`	`chiper`	`ckknight: I also wanted to know if there's an easy way to detect if a map button is from fubar.`
`17:16.30`	`Xinhuan`	`so we considered Notester`
`17:16.34`	`Xinhuan`	`but that sounds like NoTester`
`17:16.41`	`ckknight`	`bbl, breakfast`
`17:17.12`	`Xinhuan`	`i've finished the plugin code, but not done the core yet to add your own notes`
`17:17.42`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm pretty slack, but nevcairiel is more slack :)`
`17:18.00`	`dylanm`	`Pushpin...`
`17:18.03`	`nevcairiel`	`you see the problem is`
`17:18.17`	`nevcairiel`	`no personal interest in that particular plugin, so i lack motivation`
`17:18.34`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61478 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - properly move around SIDE-TOP and SIDE-BOTTOM minimaps`
`17:18.40`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61479 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 - properly move around SIDE-TOP and SIDE-BOTTOM minimaps`
`17:18.45`	`ckknight`	`chiper: and fixed`
`17:20.14`	`kebinusan`	`are there any branches one should check out to kick around on the ptr`
`17:20.23`	`break19`	`hey ck.. if minimap rotation is enabled.. does the minimap look funky?`
`17:20.31`	`ckknight`	`oh yes`
`17:20.36`	`ckknight`	`it looks freaky`
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`17:21.10`	`chiper`	`ckknight: woot`
`17:21.23`	`Elsia`	`heya`
`17:21.37`	`[SW]Dodge`	`hiya`
`17:22.25`	`break19`	`ckknight: im guessing there's not really an easy way around that, since I've never seen any other author 'fix' it either.`
`17:22.44`	`ckknight`	`break19: yea, there's no real fix for it except to use the round minimap`
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`17:24.06`	`Daemona`	`ow shit... you still there on the ptr? ... guess alliance outnumbered our bears :X`
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`17:26.15`	`Stanzilla`	`I guess Daemona has a whisper blocker for lvl 1-5 chars :P`
`17:26.29`	`Daemona`	`na, just prat ;)`
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`17:27.25`	`Stanzilla`	`k`
`17:27.25`	`Stanzilla`	`well`
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`17:27.27`	`Stanzilla`	`I'm standing behind the wall of bears`
`17:27.28`	`CIA-12`	`03endeavour * r61480 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): BossTalk: fixed minor issues`
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`17:28.06`	`Stanzilla`	`now directly in front of you`
`17:28.16`	`Stanzilla`	`and dead again`
`17:28.17`	`Stanzilla`	`wohoo`
`17:28.22`	`sb_`	`haha :p`
`17:30.14`	`rubik`	`omg.. character copy to ptr just worked`
`17:30.32`	`rubik`	`gogo try it if you still need to copy high level toons`
`17:31.18`	`kebinusan`	`I said that earlier tho a bit less exicted`
`17:31.35`	`rubik`	`sorry, i fail at teh back scrolling`
`17:31.43`	`kebinusan`	`but yeah char copy went through w/o a hitch for me`
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`17:32.56`	`Elsia`	`how long does a typical copy take? managed to put 4 chars into the queue this morning`
`17:33.26`	`rubik`	`that i'm not sure of.. but i'm sure it doesn't take the 4 days it says it does`
`17:33.29`	`Erica`	`Another question about Chinchilla... is autozoom supposed to zoom all the way back out when the time expires or just one click? Currently it just does one click out`
`17:33.33`	`nevcairiel`	`from a few hours to a few days`
`17:34.05`	`kebinusan`	`Nvidia completed its acquisition of Ageia yesterday, and it has revealed that it will soon introduce PhysX physics processing support into all of its GeForce 8-series graphics cards through a simple software download. PhysX support will allow the cards to accelerate physics effects in games.`
`17:34.17`	`kebinusan`	`neats`
`17:34.27`	`nevcairiel`	`very nice`
`17:34.36`	`kebinusan`	`probably only be worthwhile on the 8800's with lots of ram tho`
`17:34.42`	`kebinusan`	`time to upgrade`
`17:35.04`	`Erica`	`Will it work on XP or will it require Vista for the new direct-x?`
`17:35.14`	`Daemona`	`yeah and at the cost of shutting down the standalone ppu pci-e cards`
`17:35.20`	`chiper`	`ckknight: I think I've gathered what I need to write this button alignment routine, but the thing about it is that it will pretty much override chinchilla's button movement functions. how do you want to handle that?`
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`17:35.25`	`rubik`	`i still haven't installed WoW on my new laptop (has a 8600gt card).. i bet it'll play a lot better than on my pc (older.. 7800? card)`
`17:35.25`	`Recluse`	`yay for random addons turning game music on? lol not sure why it did that... (Capping)`
`17:36.15`	`kebinusan`	`rubik, probably wont see much of a gain`
`17:36.23`	`ckknight`	`chiper: just write up the code and I'll merge em somehow`
`17:36.28`	`chiper`	`k`
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`17:36.57`	`CIA-12`	`03whyv * r61481 10PallyPower/locale/zhTW.lua:`
`17:36.57`	`CIA-12`	`PallyPower:`
`17:36.57`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated zhTW`
`17:37.56`	`Snago`	`Arrghh, anyone can point me to a good Dirge-blocker?`
`17:38.02`	`chiper`	`ckknight: where is getOffset() starting it's angle at? top center?`
`17:38.19`	`Daemona`	`be happy its only dirge and not staff of jordan`
`17:38.22`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61482 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Fade/Fade.lua Text/Text.lua): CowTip: frFR Update`
`17:38.24`	`rubik`	`kebinusan: i'm sure you're right.. however, the cpu is better on the laptop as well so it should be ever-so-slightly better.. or at least no worse. ;)`
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`17:38.49`	`kebinusan`	`the problem I keep having is every time I upgrade my pc sligtly I up the settings in game and end up with about the same fps`
`17:39.22`	`Daemona`	`thats why i only upgrade every two years and go ALL OUT ;)`
`17:40.07`	`vhaarr`	`what the hell, wine 0.9.55 segfaults the second I start wow`
`17:40.10`	`kebinusan`	`yeah, my last upgrade was more of a sidegrade, nothing like the smell of burnt electronics and toasty ram/melted motherboard to put a damper in things`
`17:40.36`	`kebinusan`	`vhaarr: eww, Im still running 0.9.54 since ubuntu 64 debs havent come out yet`
`17:41.06`	`kebinusan`	`is 9.55 a regression build?`
`17:42.27`	`vhaarr`	`I have no idea, it might be something else causing it`
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`17:42.37`	`vhaarr`	`after this update, rhythmbox segfaults as well`
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`17:48.02`	`Recluse`	`whoever gave alliance the horde playbook last night on how to win ab should be shot. 27 games since honor reset, 0 wins >.>`
`17:48.28`	`chiper`	`did you get 5 capped?`
`17:48.33`	`Estil`	`Lol`
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`17:48.53`	`Estil`	`I thought if Alliance played like Horde did they should win?`
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`17:49.05`	`Recluse`	`chiper: 4-5'd every game`
`17:49.19`	`chiper`	`ha ha, sucker`
`17:49.34`	`Estil`	`isn't it right`
`17:49.38`	`Estil`	`if alliance played like horde they win`
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`17:51.50`	`Daemona`	`haha .. bored nerds on eu pve ptr ... http://static.pici.se/pictures/hkayViKfG.jpg ... sunwell plateau instance down`
`17:51.59`	`chexsum`	`alliance got shaman so its anyones game now`
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`17:53.40`	`Stanzilla`	`my sunwell shots http://web13.syscp.nutime.de/sunwell/`
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`17:54.30`	`chiper`	`Recluse: http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/WoWScrnShot_021208_212824.jpg.html`
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`17:54.36`	`chiper`	`we did that five games in a row`
`17:55.11`	`ckknight_`	`chiper: the center of the minimap`
`17:55.23`	`chiper`	`ckknight_: erm, what?`
`17:55.37`	`ckknight`	`chiper: wrt getOffset`
`17:55.56`	`chiper`	`doesnt getOffset return coordinates for the center of the button to place it on the edge of the map?`
`17:56.06`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`17:56.17`	`ckknight`	`center of the button wrt center of the minimap`
`17:56.18`	`chiper`	`based on a degree of angle, right?`
`17:56.26`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`17:56.40`	`chiper`	`so where is the start of the angle? the center would be the fulcrum`
`17:58.36`	`ckknight`	`east`
`17:58.39`	`ckknight`	`east is 0º`
`17:58.44`	`ckknight`	`west is 180º`
`17:58.46`	`chiper`	`ok, thank you`
`17:58.46`	`ckknight`	`north is 90º`
`17:58.54`	`ckknight`	`same as in trigonometry`
`17:59.02`	`chiper`	`I never took trig`
`17:59.13`	`ckknight`	`sad, it's good stuff`
`17:59.54`	`chiper`	`naw, I hated all math. on the rare occasion that I need a forumula for a program I just ask friends who know`
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`18:00.49`	`chiper`	`erm, formula`
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`18:01.30`	`cncfanatics`	`chiper: what will you do when you need tons of them ? :p`
`18:01.55`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( commit suicide? )`
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`18:02.15`	`ckknight`	`math is good`
`18:02.18`	`ckknight`	`math is important`
`18:02.22`	`Firelemming`	`hi all`
`18:02.25`	`ckknight`	`for random stuff like minimap buttons`
`18:02.53`	`Firelemming`	`does anybody know a fubar plugin where you can change the sound level from wow?`
`18:03.07`	`Firelemming`	`volume`
`18:03.09`	`SunTsu`	`ckknight: I can't stand it. Just put 4 math symbols in a line and I don't want to know about it ;)`
`18:04.26`	`ckknight`	`e^(πi) - 1 = 0`
`18:05.33`	`cncfanatics`	`lim ( sin (x) / x ) = ?`
`18:05.39`	`ckknight`	`1`
`18:05.47`	`ckknight`	`though you didn't say x -> 0`
`18:05.51`	`ckknight`	`I assumed that`
`18:06.01`	`cncfanatics`	`couldn't be arsed to write it heh :)`
`18:06.02`	`ckknight`	`you should do lim(x -> 0) sin(x) / x = 1`
`18:06.27`	`cncfanatics`	`I guess`
`18:06.54`	`cncfanatics`	`lim(x -> INFINITYZOMG) sin(x) /x = 1 :)`
`18:07.25`	`nevcairiel`	`actually that should be 0 too`
`18:07.48`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: no`
`18:08.01`	`ckknight`	`it's 0`
`18:08.07`	`ckknight`	`nevcairiel's right`
`18:08.14`	`cncfanatics`	`heh, indeed`
`18:08.21`	`cncfanatics`	`old maths I haven't done since months :(`
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`18:09.10`	`chiper`	`ckknight: see, conveniently you've already written the routines I need for all the real math involved :)`
`18:09.19`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`18:09.36`	`ckknight`	`lim(x -> ∞) sin(x) / x = 0`
`18:10.04`	`chiper`	`but this sort of stuff I kinda know. had to write a control for rotation in a vector graphics app I wrote a couple years back`
`18:10.35`	`chiper`	`the actual vector drawing was handled by another library, but I had to do all the UI custom build`
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`18:13.56`	`Dashkal`	`Didn't someone recently post a bit of code to handle minimap button placement for strangely shaped maps (partially square, partially rounded)?`
`18:14.42`	`ckknight`	`I did`
`18:14.59`	`ckknight`	`it's in Chinchilla`
`18:15.02`	`ckknight`	`and FuBarPlugin`
`18:15.15`	`Dashkal`	`ahh`
`18:15.18`	`chiper`	`yeah, that's the getOffset routine we were talking about`
`18:15.28`	`Dashkal`	`I looked over it, but trig was a decade ago... I couldn't follow it`
`18:18.08`	`ckknight`	`atan(x) = tan-1(x)`
`18:18.16`	`ckknight`	`wait, that shouldn't be x`
`18:18.39`	`ckknight`	`should be theta`
`18:19.59`	`chiper`	`heh, I just tested this old HP monitor. new-in-box 15" display. I hooked it up to a computer that was only putting out 1024x768, and the monitor complained the resolution was too high`
`18:22.12`	`[dRaCo]`	`Firelemming: fubar_volumefu`
`18:22.24`	`CIA-12`	`03gamefaq * r61483 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:`
`18:22.24`	`CIA-12`	`Babble-2.2:`
`18:22.24`	`CIA-12`	`- Typo Fix Magisters' Terrace -> Magister's Terrace`
`18:22.27`	`Dashkal`	`ckknight: heh, Yeah, I can find that stuff easily enough, what I meant was I've lost the idea of what the trig functions actually measure.. I remember what the graphs for sin, cos, and tan look like, but I no longer understand what they measure. Suppose I could spend a couple hours in wikipedia ro some such and brush up though`
`18:23.01`	`ckknight`	`cos(t) = x/hyp`
`18:23.05`	`ckknight`	`sin(t) = y/hyp`
`18:23.17`	`ckknight`	`tan(t) = y/x`
`18:23.25`	`ckknight`	`cot(t) = x/y`
`18:23.54`	`NeoTron`	`chiper: sounds like a recycle victim`
`18:24.13`	`Dashkal`	`x, y, and hyp being the lines of the right-angle triangle inside the unit circle?`
`18:24.16`	`ckknight`	`in cs, the important one is atan2(y, x), which is like atan(y/x), but can handle negatives properly`
`18:24.38`	`ckknight`	`Dashkal: doesn't have to be a unit circle, if it is a unit circle, hyp = 1`
`18:24.51`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61484 10SinkLib/ (. Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua): SinkLib: add additional icon arg for raidwarning for the 2.4 icons`
`18:24.58`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( I dislike ckknight more and more with every line of maths ;) )`
`18:25.09`	`ckknight`	`lol, why?`
`18:25.10`	`TNSe`	`is there an addon that allows you to customize the value of each stat on an item and sum it up? :P`
`18:25.20`	`chiper`	`neo: nope, this is going to a customer`
`18:25.22`	`Dashkal`	`wow, maybe I haven't lost as much as I thought I had`
`18:25.38`	`chiper`	`I work for an HP refurbisher, most the stuff we sell is 10 years old or more`
`18:25.43`	`SunTsu`	`ckknight: Hm, I fucking hate maths ;)`
`18:25.44`	`TNSe`	`like if I say that 1 crit is 15 points, and 1 strength is 8 points, and so on, it will display a value in tooltip`
`18:25.45`	`SunTsu`	`Can't stand it ;)`
`18:25.49`	`TNSe`	`anyone know any such addons? :P`
`18:25.52`	`ckknight`	`but math is fun!`
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`18:26.02`	`[dRaCo]`	`TNSe: pawn`
`18:26.16`	`Benumbed`	`What would stop aceconsole from printing a table with /print`
`18:26.28`	`SunTsu`	`ckknight: No, it is not, looking at 5 math symbols in a row induces headache with me`
`18:26.36`	`Recluse`	`i love math, just hate trig/geometry with a passion`
`18:26.41`	`ckknight`	`that's your own problem, SunTsu`
`18:26.49`	`ckknight`	`Recluse: I'm actually pretty good at trig :-P`
`18:26.58`	`dylanm`	`People hatin' on math in here`
`18:27.19`	`Firelemming`	`ty dRaCo`
`18:27.53`	`Recluse`	`algebraic things? sure! but you ask me how to get the surface area of a circle or some crazy thing? forget it. i know it can all be broken down into basic math, but ffs it's too many formulae and such to remember`
`18:28.05`	`TNSe`	`[dRaCo], pawn isn't an ace addon? :P`
`18:28.15`	`[dRaCo]`	`it isnt`
`18:28.18`	`[dRaCo]`	`but it works :>`
`18:28.20`	`TNSe`	`grr >_<`
`18:28.26`	`dylanm`	`Is that a problem`
`18:28.31`	`TNSe`	`yeah, but it means I have to find it other ways than through wowaceupdatr .p`
`18:28.36`	`chiper`	`Recluse: surface of a circle? wow, even I know that one :P`
`18:28.43`	`chiper`	`now, area of a triangle, I'd be lost`
`18:28.54`	`TNSe`	`0.5hw`
`18:28.55`	`dylanm`	`It helps if you've seen the derivations of things.`
`18:29.00`	`[dRaCo]`	`everywhere, curse, wowi, w/e`
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`18:31.26`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`18:32.26`	`ckknight`	`chiper: area of a triangle = w*h/2`
`18:33.02`	`Recluse`	`on the plus side, that strange dogtag problem fixed itself magically =3`
`18:33.21`	`chiper`	`ckknight: dont care :)`
`18:33.28`	`keiss`	`chiper: only if its isosceles ?`
`18:33.33`	`ckknight`	`Recluse: all me, baby`
`18:33.40`	`Kivin`	`ckknight: Are you aware of the visualheal typo (line 196 i think)`
`18:33.46`	`Kivin`	`_ instead of.`
`18:33.55`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`18:34.06`	`Recluse`	`:p`
`18:34.46`	`Kivin`	`line 169: incomingHealBar_texture:SetVertexColor(unpack(self.db.profile.incomingColor))`
`18:35.19`	`wereHamster`	`s/_/\./`
`18:35.28`	`ckknight`	`you fix it, I'm busy`
`18:35.31`	`Kivin`	`may I commit it?`
`18:35.35`	`ckknight`	`sure`
`18:35.38`	`Kivin`	`kk`
`18:36.53`	`Recluse`	`i need to find out how to inject a menu option into cart_notes =3 i guess i'll work on that today`
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`18:38.01`	`Zariel`	`Does anyone maintain !BugGrabber?`
`18:38.05`	`Kivin`	`hmm the trunk's visualHeal is different from the one I have in my pitbull`
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`18:39.53`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61485 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: add ability to pass icons in raid warnings`
`18:40.27`	Funkeh`	`^_ give 2.4 already`
`18:40.36`	`Ironhand`	`sorry if this question is too general, but I'd rather check just in case before I start the tedious process of singling out the offender - I upgraded all my addons through WAU yesterday and ever since, my game has been experiencing very short but very regular pauses... any idea what might be causing this?`
`18:41.03`	`Ironhand`	`(I have upgraded again today hoping the problem might have been fixed, no luck)`
`18:41.04`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: I'd recommend turning on CPU Profiling and getting PerformanceFu`
`18:41.22`	`NeoTron`	`well they buffed Brutallus insanely it seems`
`18:41.25`	`Kivin`	`Aside from that, shut off non essentials and see what happens`
`18:41.26`	`NeoTron`	`I doubt my guild has a chance now`
`18:41.34`	`NeoTron`	`30.5k raid DPS needed for 6 minutes`
`18:41.48`	`Ironhand`	`I have PerformanceFu (Ace2 reporting 45 MiB usage...); where do I enable CPU Profiling?`
`18:42.01`	`Kivin`	`it's a CVar... Forget which one. Anyone ?`
`18:42.16`	`Gngsk`	`right click fubar performancefu, enable cpu profiling`
`18:42.19`	`Zariel`	`enable it with Perf fu`
`18:42.38`	`Ironhand`	`ok thx, doing it now`
`18:42.43`	`Kivin`	`If Ace2 is reporting that much memory, it's embeded, I guess? it shows up in the kib range for me`
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`18:44.07`	`Xinhuan`	`he said Ace2, so its clearly disembedded`
`18:44.15`	`nevcairiel`	`probably some evil addon gettng the blame on Ace2 again`
`18:44.20`	`Kivin`	`erm, then how in the world is it occupying 40mib?`
`18:44.38`	`Kivin`	`mine takes 1.7mib after running for eight hours straight`
`18:44.43`	`Xinhuan`	`if it was embedded, it wuldn't be saying "Ace2"`
`18:44.48`	`Xinhuan`	`it would be "some addon that uses Ace2"`
`18:45.11`	`CIA-12`	`03nevcairiel * r61486 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: cleanup addonloader tags`
`18:45.52`	`Ironhand`	`enabling CPU profiling -> main thing it did was make the problem a lot worse... and it's Ace2 showing the most usage, but still only about 2%`
`18:46.20`	`HunterZ0`	`chiper: you around?`
`18:46.24`	`chiper`	`si`
`18:46.24`	`Xinhuan`	`well you have an ace2 addon that is using a lot of memory`
`18:46.25`	`Kivin`	`Going to have to get someone familiar /w the framework to explain to you why it could possibly occupy 40mib of memory`
`18:46.38`	`Xinhuan`	`addon A, B, and C all uses ace2`
`18:46.43`	`Xinhuan`	`it can be any of them causing that 40 mb`
`18:46.44`	`Kivin`	`why would that show up as ace2 and not the addon itself?`
`18:46.55`	`Xinhuan`	`because a, b and c uses Ace2`
`18:47.04`	`Ironhand`	`so, guess I'll have to start singling it out after all`
`18:47.10`	`HunterZ0`	`chiper: was playing with prat_signon and was wondering if you're planning to add coloring options. i really like the class coloring that prat does by default for toon names on the login notifications`
`18:47.19`	`Xinhuan`	`so if A calls a function in Ace2, and Ace2 is in its own addon`
`18:47.21`	`Ironhand`	`mind you, after the reloadui from enabling cpu profiling, Ace2 was reduced to about 12 MiB`
`18:47.23`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: Start with dmg meters`
`18:47.25`	`Xinhuan`	`then the memory usage goes to Ace2, not to A`
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`18:47.54`	`chiper`	`HunterZ0: I've been thinking about that, yeah. right now I'm focused on something else tho`
`18:48.10`	`HunterZ0`	`kk`
`18:49.02`	`Kivin`	`ArkInventory sure is a pig`
`18:49.15`	`Kivin`	`Takes more memory than my damage meter with 750 users logged`
`18:49.27`	`chiper`	`hunter: it shouldn't be hard to add. just need to think up a tag format and make a regex pattern to define the replacement.`
`18:49.36`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`18:49.52`	`HunterZ0`	`yeah`
`18:49.54`	`Zariel`	`Any one have a pic of the new AV layout?`
`18:49.55`	`chiper`	`kivin: how many alts is it tracking?`
`18:50.18`	`HunterZ0`	`i wish you could turn off arkinventory's offline logging without it bugging out the addon`
`18:50.41`	`Kivin`	`chiper: seven live chars and possibly a few that i've since deleted. and a 3 tab guild vault from an old guild that i am no longer a member of.`
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`18:50.54`	`chiper`	`kivin: heh, bingo`
`18:50.54`	`Kivin`	`i should really just delete my saved vars and let it start fresh`
`18:51.40`	`chiper`	`isnt there a function in it to purge the cache without erasing other settings?`
`18:51.58`	`Kivin`	`no idea`
`18:52.01`	`Kivin`	`i avoid it's menus`
`18:52.21`	`chiper`	`I cant get on wow right now to look`
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`18:52.33`	`Kivin`	`I only have about 4 settings changed. i'll just delete saved vars`
`18:52.49`	`Kivin`	`it's a 2mib savedvar file. whew.`
`18:52.51`	`chiper`	`ah, I have a fairly complex bar layout`
`18:53.08`	`Kivin`	`i never learned how to configure it for advanced stuff, so i avoid all that`
`18:53.11`	`Kivin`	`i just like the way it looks`
`18:53.21`	`Kivin`	`more so than baggins or bagnon or whatev they're called`
`18:53.51`	`Kivin`	`only thing i wish it had was a search engine`
`18:54.04`	`Recluse`	`baggins =3`
`18:54.10`	`Kivin`	`ieww no thx`
`18:54.17`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`18:54.29`	`chiper`	`yeah, ark does need a search field`
`18:54.44`	`Kivin`	`I keep telling myself i need to make a command line search or something`
`18:54.45`	`Recluse`	`the addon possesions for searching as well`
`18:54.56`	`chiper`	`I also wish he'd start putting update info into the svn commit messages`
`18:55.06`	`Kivin`	`gods yes`
`18:56.01`	`Kivin`	`just discovered this pvp water today... wish i had've known about it six months ago`
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`18:57.18`	`Recluse`	`ace2 starts at 2.5m for me, ace3 only 450k lol`
`18:57.44`	`Kivin`	`ace2 1.49mib, ace3 419kib`
`18:58.03`	`Zariel`	`Anyone on the PTR?`
`18:59.07`	`Recluse`	`total addon memory: 54m T_T`
`18:59.20`	`Kivin`	`that's fairly normal`
`18:59.26`	`Kivin`	`i start around 31 and work my way up into the 70s`
`19:00.25`	`chiper`	`I think mine hovers around 90`
`19:00.30`	`chiper`	`havent checked in a while`
`19:00.51`	`Recluse`	`i mainly just need a new video card :/ sys memory would be okay but wouldn't help my abysmal framerate lol`
`19:01.09`	`chiper`	`recluse: actually it might`
`19:01.19`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61487 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Send numbers instead of icons`
`19:01.19`	`chiper`	`pageouts slow wow down a lot`
`19:01.45`	`chiper`	`WoW is one of the few games where processor and memory performance can have more impact than graphics performance`
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`19:02.00`	`chiper`	`especially in cities`
`19:02.11`	`Kivin`	`my addons are pretty tame: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9576/memusageyw3.jpg`
`19:02.17`	`Recluse`	`i'm one of those who gets 1-2fps in shat if it's empty (4:00am) and don't dare go there during primetime or i get dc'd`
`19:02.42`	`Kivin`	`speaking of frames...`
`19:02.46`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: I'm still glad I got PitBull's mem under control`
`19:02.48`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: make sure you turn off profiling as soon as you're done with it`
`19:02.49`	`HunterZ0`	`wow is a cpu hoggggg`
`19:02.54`	`chiper`	`heh, my performancefu would probably go off the screen`
`19:02.56`	`Kivin`	`ckknight: It was mostly config tables, was it not?`
`19:02.56`	`Cryect-Work`	`addon memory usage isn't at the heart of wow's memory usage :-p`
`19:03.06`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: yea, and a few other things`
`19:03.09`	`ckknight`	`but mostly config tables`
`19:03.22`	`Kivin`	`I'm battling memory usage in my action bar mod`
`19:03.35`	`chiper`	`Cryect: yeah, it's more about character and npc data`
`19:03.44`	`Ironhand`	`Kivin: I have indeed as it was making the problem a lot worse, and it didn't tell me more than memory usage did (Ace2 taking up most of it again)`
`19:03.56`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: Sorry =/`
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`19:04.06`	`Kivin`	`Your pauses are most likely something forcing garbage collection on a regular basis`
`19:04.36`	`Kivin`	`still puzzles me why it'd show up in ace2 and not the addon itself`
`19:04.44`	`Kivin`	`what the hell is ace2 storing`
`19:05.00`	`NeoTron`	`recount makes ace2 memory usage grow a lot`
`19:05.36`	`Ironhand`	`would /recount standby stop the issue if that were the case?`
`19:05.45`	`Cryect-Work`	`Ironhand: if you are using perffu thats going to give you a lot of issues with jitter every second it updates`
`19:05.47`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: better yet, shut off recount and check perf Fu`
`19:06.08`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61488 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Add icons`
`19:06.08`	`Cryect-Work`	`perffu is one of the worst addons I know for effecting my framerate in an annoying way`
`19:06.09`	`Kivin`	`I have a feeling once you find the culprit, your ace2 memory will go back down to < 2 mib`
`19:06.30`	`Ironhand`	`ok, will have to try that after my instance`
`19:06.36`	`NeoTron`	`Ironhand: if recount is the issue, /recount reset ...`
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`19:06.54`	`Kivin`	`followed by a reloadui`
`19:07.05`	`Cryect-Work`	`" my game has been experiencing very short but very regular pauses... any idea what might be causing this?"`
`19:07.10`	`Cryect-Work`	`thats normally perffu >_>`
`19:07.22`	`Kivin`	`Pretty sure perf fu doesn't do squat unless you open the tooltip`
`19:07.26`	`Cryect-Work`	`yes it does`
`19:07.33`	`Cryect-Work`	`every 1 second it polls the memory usage`
`19:07.47`	`Cryect-Work`	`unless thats changed since last time I was using it`
`19:07.50`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61489 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Bugfix`
`19:07.55`	`NeoTron`	`Cryect-Work: I see pauses that I assumed was partial GC's`
`19:07.57`	`NeoTron`	`not every second`
`19:08.01`	`NeoTron`	`further apart`
`19:08.20`	`Kivin`	`When I start getting those hiccups, it's garbage collections. Usually related to an in combat mod like a dmg meter pushing too much memory`
`19:08.22`	`Cryect-Work`	`Really if its an ace addon you should be able to put it on standby and see if it goes away`
`19:08.35`	`Kivin`	`that's one hell of an assumption`
`19:08.49`	`Cryect-Work`	`Heh well if the addon uses standby correctly it isn't`
`19:09.09`	`Kivin`	`Again, one hell of an assumption`
`19:09.44`	`NeoTron`	`Cryect-Work: if the hickup is due to GC, disabling the addon won't help since you can't unload it (afaik)`
`19:09.54`	`Cryect-Work`	`but the addon won't be creating more memory`
`19:10.02`	`Cryect-Work`	`hence it won't be the one activating GC`
`19:10.11`	`Kivin`	`again, assuming that it shuts itself off properly`
`19:10.12`	`Ironhand`	`just disabled performancefu and it's not yet occured again - will see if it holds`
`19:10.50`	`Cryect-Work`	`yeah, it sucks perffu does that on some computers :(`
`19:10.52`	`NeoTron`	`Cryect-Work: true but larger memory base can increase time of gcing`
`19:11.02`	`NeoTron`	`well typically. I don't know exactly how lua gc works`
`19:11.15`	`Cryect-Work`	`also if you think its GC then you can change the GC settings so it won't try to GC till a really large value`
`19:11.55`	`Kivin`	`think you're just better off figuring out what's being so gluttonous with memory than making the GC lazy`
`19:12.02`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61490 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: comment out sath for just now`
`19:12.30`	`Kivin`	`welp, ckknight, I can't commit visualheal since it's completely different source code than the one i changed this morning`
`19:12.51`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: better update, then, and hack on that`
`19:13.20`	`Kivin`	`ckknight: I did update. I haven't the faintest idea what I changed now. The code near 169 isn't at all the same and I can't be bothered to dig too deep til it errors again. if it errors again.`
`19:13.24`	`Cryect-Work`	`Kivin, haha well I was talking about trying to figure out what is causing the problem`
`19:13.38`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: wait until it errors again`
`19:13.43`	`Kivin`	`Indeed`
`19:13.45`	`Cryect-Work`	`The suggestion was its GC which if its GC then you should be able to 'disable' GC and it stops`
`19:14.19`	`Kivin`	`i think lines 186 and 187 will fix what errored out on me this morn, but i'm not really lookin at the big picture`
`19:14.25`	`Xinhuan`	`did you have profiling on Cryect?`
`19:14.31`	`Xinhuan`	`if you have it pauses every 1 sec`
`19:14.39`	`Xinhuan`	`wow does it that is, to do internal stuff`
`19:14.57`	`Ironhand`	`ok, definitely appears the culprit was PerformanceFu`
`19:14.57`	`Kivin`	`I had profiling on for a good two months and never noticed it =\|`
`19:15.05`	`Xinhuan`	`turn off profiling`
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`19:15.18`	`Kivin`	`Ironhand: Did you shut off profiling before shutting off perf Fu?`
`19:15.19`	`Xinhuan`	`it has a SEVERE effect on fps and pauses every 1 sec for like 0.05 sec`
`19:15.22`	`Ironhand`	`Kivin: yes`
`19:15.27`	`Cryect-Work`	`Xinhuan: yeah I've had the issue with profiling :-p though I know people who say they have the issue without profiling on from just the memory usage polling on sucky computers`
`19:15.32`	`Kivin`	`Xinhuan: I did as soon as I realized it was on. I gained about 30% more FPS`
`19:15.59`	`Cryect-Work`	`its not the general FPS hit its the stuttering perffu results in`
`19:16.05`	`Kivin`	`Since I'd used profiling for so long, it was like a freebie hardware upgrade on my comp when i shut it off :P`
`19:16.26`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`19:16.34`	`Firelemming`	does anybody know what im doing wrong when using the AceComm lib and set the SetCommPrefix it says: Cannot call `SetCommPrefix' more than once.
`19:16.42`	`Cryect-Work`	`haha Kivin`
`19:16.47`	`Kivin`	`xP`
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`19:17.17`	`Xinhuan`	`it means exactly what it says`
`19:17.23`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't call it more than once per addon object`
`19:17.31`	`Xinhuan`	`1 addon, 1 prefi`
`19:17.32`	`Kivin`	`still a few places in particular that i get crap FPS. underbog is the worst`
`19:17.32`	`TNSe`	`[dRaCo], pawn did exactly what I needed it to do P:`
`19:17.33`	`CIA-12`	`037destiny * r61491 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua:`
`19:17.33`	`CIA-12`	`BigWigs: Plugins/Messages:`
`19:17.33`	`CIA-12`	`- add: localization anchor font`
`19:17.33`	`CIA-12`	`- koKR Update`
`19:17.34`	`Xinhuan`	`+x`
`19:18.00`	`Xinhuan`	`if you need more prefixes, then you should be sending submessages with the same prefix`
`19:18.04`	`Firelemming`	`well im not doing it, because when i remove that setcommprefixs RegisterComm message says it isnt set`
`19:18.17`	`Xinhuan`	`then something is calling your function twice`
`19:18.21`	`Firelemming`	`hmmm`
`19:18.39`	`CIA-12`	`03fleetfoot * r61492 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:`
`19:18.39`	`CIA-12`	`Nudge:`
`19:18.39`	`CIA-12`	`- Abandon all hope, wont load for non hunters anymore.`
`19:18.41`	`Firelemming`	`OnEnable is only called once right?`
`19:18.51`	`Xinhuan`	`usually`
`19:19.12`	`Xinhuan`	`but if u disable, then enable`
`19:19.18`	`Xinhuan`	`that's counted as twice`
`19:19.32`	`Firelemming`	`beter to set it in init then?`
`19:19.38`	`Kivin`	`use OnInitialize for stuff that mustn't happen more than once`
`19:19.44`	`Firelemming`	`allright`
`19:19.48`	`Kivin`	`that's what it's there for`
`19:20.32`	`Firelemming`	`thanks, ill get working on it`
`19:20.56`	`Kivin`	`chiper: Does your ArkInventory lock up WoW if you drag the bank frame over top of the inventory frame?`
`19:21.09`	`chiper`	`kivin: never tried that`
`19:21.17`	`Zenom`	`i can never get pitbull layouts that i import to look right heh`
`19:21.18`	`chiper`	`but it does freak out if it's over any other frames`
`19:22.04`	`Firelemming`	LOL, how about this error:Cannot call `SetCommPrefix' more than once.
`19:22.09`	`Firelemming`	`in init -.-`
`19:22.39`	`Xinhuan`	`err u sure?`
`19:22.43`	`Xinhuan`	`u are editing the right file?`
`19:23.31`	`Firelemming`	`yep, all the other changes work when i do /rl`
`19:23.45`	`Xinhuan`	`and are you sure you didn't have another setcommprefix somewhere else?`
`19:24.07`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61493 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Put back in my changes that mr. koKR broke`
`19:24.17`	`Firelemming`	`using search function to be sure, and no other SetCommPrefix found`
`19:24.18`	`Xinhuan`	`in the main chunk`
`19:24.38`	`Xinhuan`	`post code if u care!`
`19:25.06`	`Firelemming`	`ok, hold on`
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`19:26.56`	`Firelemming`	`http://ace.pastey.net/82300`
`19:27.43`	`Firelemming`	`so wierd im copying the things from the tutorial over and only changed the addon name`
`19:27.51`	`Xinhuan`	`lien 213`
`19:27.51`	`Xinhuan`	`RuinBossTactics:SetCommPrefix("RuinBossTactics")`
`19:27.58`	`Xinhuan`	`lien 209`
`19:27.59`	`Xinhuan`	`RuinBossTactics:RegisterComm(RuinBossTactics.commPrefix, "GUILD", "ReceiveMessage")`
`19:28.15`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`19:28.16`	`Xinhuan`	`hold on`
`19:28.18`	`Xinhuan`	`fighting boss`
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`19:29.19`	`Kivin`	`got my action bars down from 2.5mib to 178kib by making the button states load on demand`
`19:30.18`	`Kivin`	`tables sure take up a lot of memory`
`19:31.23`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: what addon, if I might ask ?`
`19:31.59`	`Firelemming`	`its wierd im using these exact to lines (except the addon name ofc) in a other addon i made. Placed them even in OnEnable right after each other and no problems there`
`19:32.14`	`cncfanatics`	`Firelemming: why would it be a problem ?`
`19:32.23`	`Firelemming`	`wow gives a error`
`19:32.26`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: Has no name yet.`
`19:32.34`	`Firelemming`	`saying i called it twice`
`19:32.39`	`Xinhuan`	`don't see anything particularly wrong with the setcommprefix`
`19:32.39`	`Firelemming`	`but i dont :P`
`19:32.52`	`Xinhuan`	`maybe you want to add a ChatFrame1:AddMessage()`
`19:32.54`	`Xinhuan`	`in your oninit`
`19:32.58`	`Xinhuan`	`and see what's up`
`19:33.06`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: also writing one ? :op`
`19:33.08`	`Xinhuan`	`(before the setcomm call)`
`19:33.16`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm working on FB3 and states are a fucking irritating thing`
`19:33.29`	`Firelemming`	`ok xinhuan, moment`
`19:33.41`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: Yeah, except I want to support action indices as well as fixed spells/items`
`19:33.50`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm`
`19:33.55`	`cncfanatics`	`planning the same :)`
`19:33.58`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61494 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Icons should actually work now`
`19:34.03`	`cncfanatics`	`trying to work out a way to do attributes without hacking stuff atm`
`19:34.10`	`Kivin`	`Basically, on the surface, it'll function almost identical to bartender or bongos`
`19:34.28`	`cncfanatics`	`bleh, I hate the actionbar concept`
`19:34.29`	`Kivin`	`But paged bars wont overlap.`
`19:34.37`	`cncfanatics`	`invidual buttons are so much better`
`19:34.57`	`SunTsu`	`Hm, what is recount trying to tell me by saying "..\AddOns\Recount\Recount.lua line 1061: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "UNIT_PET" to method "UNIT_PET", it does not exist" and "..\AddOns\Recount\Recount.lua line 544: attempt to index field 'Pets' (a nil value)" - could it be the reason recount does not show _anything_, not even decoration?`
`19:35.07`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: how did you handle attributes ?`
`19:35.12`	`cncfanatics`	`trying to think out a way to do it correctly atm`
`19:35.20`	`cncfanatics`	`(its easy to hack it, but that is, well, a hackà)`
`19:35.32`	`Firelemming`	`indeed Xinhuan, it is called twice, wierd`
`19:35.35`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: I haven't got that far. What I'm doing is having ten unique states for each driver (each bar has it's own driver)`
`19:35.42`	`Firelemming`	`o wait!`
`19:35.47`	`Kivin`	`state 0 is neutral, 1-6 are class specific, 7 shift, 8 ctrl, 9 alt`
`19:35.57`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: why have multiple drivers ?`
`19:36.01`	`cncfanatics`	`its easy enough to use the same for all`
`19:36.11`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: Because each bar handles states seperately`
`19:36.11`	`Xinhuan`	`do you have some XML file`
`19:36.13`	`Xinhuan`	`or something`
`19:36.14`	`Firelemming`	`stupid me, i realised i call that same lua also in the xml file`
`19:36.18`	`Firelemming`	`^^`
`19:36.21`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: each button in FB can handle them seperatly`
`19:36.24`	`Xinhuan`	`there i thought so`
`19:36.25`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: ping`
`19:36.25`	`cncfanatics`	`yet they still all use the same driver`
`19:36.30`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: I'm not doing it on a per button basis`
`19:36.37`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61496 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: Revert last commit. It's Magisters' Terrace, trust me.`
`19:36.39`	`CIA-12`	`03nevcairiel * r61495 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua HotCandy.toc):`
`19:36.39`	`CIA-12`	`HotCandy:`
`19:36.39`	`CIA-12`	`- added option to configure the position of the stack count`
`19:36.39`	`CIA-12`	`- added option to hide the spellnames`
`19:36.44`	`Xinhuan`	`another common mistake was`
`19:36.44`	`Firelemming`	`damm, lol never realized that was going on`
`19:36.48`	`cncfanatics`	`only illustrating its possible to have states handled sepperatly while having the same driver :)`
`19:36.53`	`HunterZ0`	`Xinhuan: so i'm playing with GatherHud+GatherMate+Routes a bit. GatherHud is really cool, but one thing is weird: when I look straight down to make the HUD a circle, it still makes things in front of me small and things behind large due to the icon depth effect. It seems like the depth effect should be proportional to the viewing angle.`
`19:36.54`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: And although I don't remember the reasons, iriel gave me two very compelling reasons not to handle states at the button level, but the driver instead.`
`19:36.58`	`Xinhuan`	`that an xml file can load an lua file, and the toc loads the same lua again`
`19:36.58`	`Firelemming`	`ty Xinhuan`
`19:37.10`	`Firelemming`	`is xml also loaded first?`
`19:37.14`	`Xinhuan`	`HunterZ0, i didn't mape depth effect relative to viewing angle`
`19:37.19`	`cncfanatics`	`Firelemming: depends on your toc`
`19:37.22`	`Xinhuan`	`whatever is specified is loaded first`
`19:37.27`	`Firelemming`	`ok`
`19:37.35`	`HunterZ0`	`i know, i'm saying it should be`
`19:37.35`	`Kivin`	`It's actually the config tables that handle the brunt of the state logic`
`19:37.48`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: state logic is anoying :)`
`19:37.49`	`Firelemming`	`RuinBossTactics.xml`
`19:37.50`	`Firelemming`	`RuinBossTactics.lua`
`19:37.53`	`Firelemming`	`:P`
`19:37.59`	`cncfanatics`	`xml is loaded first then, Firelemming :p`
`19:38.06`	`cncfanatics`	`quite logical as its listed first`
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`19:38.15`	`Firelemming`	`yeah`
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`19:40.02`	`Kivin`	`cncfanatics: The thing that's really bothering me is profiling. Ie if I set up state driven buttons on a druid, then copy that profile onto a hunter, or shaman, or warrior`
`19:40.22`	`Firelemming`	`btw is somebody still working on ACP? Addon Controll Panel. could use a search option in the window -.-`
`19:40.29`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: thats why I started using named instead of numbered states`
`19:40.43`	`cncfanatics`	`if you name em, they'll just do nothing if copied over, which is usualy the expected behaviour`
`19:41.09`	`Kivin`	`I think I'm just going to strip off states when copying profiles, assuming I can intercept profile copying in rockdb`
`19:41.11`	`Gngsk`	`Firelemming, sylvannar`
`19:41.45`	`Firelemming`	`how does the last seen thing work in IRC?`
`19:42.00`	`cncfanatics`	`Kivin: that works too`
`19:42.32`	`Recluse`	`ok, now if omnibus only allowed wiki syntax to link pages :p`
`19:42.34`	`cncfanatics`	`hmm, wondering wether I should use my old attributes code again (FB2's) for FB3`
`19:42.36`	`Kivin`	`Also got to find a sticky frame implementation I'm happy with`
`19:46.28`	`CIA-12`	`03dodge * r61497 10CoolDownButtons/locale.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed locale`
`19:46.39`	`Kivin`	`lua> {} == "foo"`
`19:46.39`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: false`
`19:48.16`	`Kivin`	`local s = "state1"; print( s:match("state(%d+)") )`
`19:48.21`	`Kivin`	`lua> local s = "state1"; print( s:match("state(%d+)") )`
`19:48.22`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: 1`
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`19:48.31`	`Kivin`	`lua> local s = "statek"; print( s:match("state(%d+)") )`
`19:48.31`	`lua_bot`	`Kivin: nil`
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`19:50.18`	`Gandharva`	`~seen Firelemming`
`19:50.20`	`purl`	`firelemming is currently on #wowace (1h 48m 22s). Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 8m 35s, last said: 'how does the last seen thing work in IRC?'.`
`19:50.35`	`Firelemming`	`~seen sylvannar`
`19:50.36`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'sylvannar', Firelemming`
`19:50.40`	`Firelemming`	`:O`
`19:50.53`	`dylanm`	`~seen sylvanar`
`19:50.54`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'sylvanar', dylanm`
`19:51.01`	`dylanm`	`Yarrr.`
`19:51.13`	`Kivin`	`Once a druid learns Dire Bear Form, Does Bear Form [stance:1] become unreachable?`
`19:51.28`	`dylanm`	`~seen synvanaar`
`19:51.29`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'synvanaar', dylanm`
`19:51.35`	`Firelemming`	`~seen sylvanaar`
`19:51.36`	`purl`	`sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 47m 14s ago, saying: 'nn'.`
`19:51.39`	`dylanm`	`There we go.`
`19:51.40`	`NeoTron`	`I suspect quite a bit away from the dps needed for current brutallus`
`19:51.40`	`Firelemming`	`\o/`
`19:51.48`	`Dashkal`	`Kivin: I was under the impression that dire _replaced_ bear form (and kept the stance index)`
`19:52.06`	`Kivin`	`Dashkal: Okay... I'll have to look in to that. It does replace it in the spellbook, but I'm not certain about the [stance:index]`
`19:52.46`	`kenlyric`	`I'm 94% sure that it does`
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`19:52.58`	`Kivin`	`According to cogwheel, it does. Thank god.`
`19:53.01`	`Dashkal`	`Unless I'm mistaken, stance indicies are just numbered along your stance bar`
`19:53.02`	`CIA-12`	`03cgaddy * r61498 10aX_RaidStatus/ (5 files):`
`19:53.02`	`CIA-12`	`aX_RaidStatus: initial commit`
`19:53.02`	`CIA-12`	`- Shows basic stats for the raid, including hp%/mp% for dps, tanks, and healers. Filtered by player name and class, not groups.`
`19:53.19`	`Dashkal`	`if you skip aquatic form, some mods likely get confused :p`
`19:53.23`	`Kivin`	`Next crisis: What's the cheapest way to find whether a druid has Dire Bear form or not`
`19:53.41`	`Kivin`	`Dashkal: Note: if a Druid is missing a form, all the higher-number ones will be shifted upwards on the chart.`
`19:53.44`	`Gandharva`	`NeoTron: what dps is needed for Brutallus? Do you have any numbers? Seems like a very static fight.`
`19:53.44`	`Cryect-Work`	`check their model?`
`19:53.46`	`Xinhuan`	`(wtf is "filtered by player name"?)`
`19:53.50`	`Cryect-Work`	`or buff?`
`19:53.52`	`Cryect-Work`	`one of those two`
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`19:54.11`	`Kivin`	`Cryect: I don't mean whether they're IN bear form, i mean whether they own the spell. Do I have to walk through the entire spellbook?`
`19:54.23`	`Cryect-Work`	`oh`
`19:54.40`	`Kivin`	`[stance:1] is adequate for whether they're in form`
`19:54.51`	`Cryect-Work`	`Haven't worked with that would hope there is a command to check if they have an explicit spell id`
`19:55.38`	`Kivin`	`I think i'll just make the config say "Bear Form" for now and figure out the logic for it to transform into Dire when the spell is learned, later`
`19:56.06`	`Kivin`	`~api GetSpellName`
`19:56.07`	`purl`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellName`
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`19:56.40`	`Kivin`	`that just might do it`
`19:56.44`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61499 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: minor tweak`
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`19:58.25`	`Snago`	`lol http://www.explosm.net/comics/1177/`
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`20:00.09`	`Kivin`	`cheapest way to get the form: GetSpellName("Bear Form") or GetSpellName("Dire Bear Form")`
`20:01.17`	`Kivin`	`wonder if that parameter is localized -.-`
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`20:02.24`	`Recluse`	`so many changes, i'm worried i'll have to spend the first week of 2.4 w/o addons lol`
`20:03.18`	`Firelemming`	`bah, sorry for bothering again but when i use SendCommMessage("WHISPER", UnitName("player"), CommMessage). I should recieve it right? or do i need to do something else to make it possible to debug it myself`
`20:03.52`	`Xinhuan`	`yes you should receive it`
`20:04.11`	`Firelemming`	`bah, seems it gets filtered out`
`20:04.44`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61500 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Brutallus: Add icons`
`20:06.55`	`Baldor_work`	`I was looking for a replacement for the way that the nurfed UI pack binds spell, macros and items`
`20:07.22`	`Baldor_work`	`you bind a key directly to the skill / item / macro instead of a button. any ideas?`
`20:07.36`	`durcyn`	`SpellBinder`
`20:07.55`	`dylanm`	`SpellBinder is not really... it's not very polished but it works.`
`20:08.05`	`Firelemming`	`http://ace.pastey.net/82306 when i call the function RequestVersions I should get a recieved function call, but it doesnt.`
`20:08.06`	`dylanm`	`I liked the Nurfed window for it. Really clear.`
`20:08.10`	`durcyn`	`polished? it does what it's supposed to do.`
`20:08.22`	`Baldor_work`	`the nurfed window is idd simple and clean`
`20:08.39`	`Baldor_work`	`i dont see why so few addons try to fix in that way :L`
`20:09.03`	`dylanm`	`I suppose "polished" may not have been the best adjective there.`
`20:09.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`who highlighted me`
`20:09.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`gah`
`20:09.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~lart Dashkal & ckknight`
`20:09.50`	`purl`	`moos at Dashkal & ckknight`
`20:09.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`oh and`
`20:09.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~lart cncfanatics`
`20:09.58`	`purl`	`--purges cncfanatics`
`20:09.59`	`ckknight`	`what?`
`20:10.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`bad sinus calculations :(`
`20:10.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`they highlight me :(`
`20:10.17`	`ckknight`	`sag_ich_nicht: dude, stop being a mathematical function`
`20:11.00`	`Dashkal`	`Who?Wha?`
`20:11.23`	`dylanm`	`I find the interface clumsy.`
`20:11.42`	`CIA-12`	`03cgaddy * r61501 10aX_RaidStatus/ (. RaidStatusCore.lua):`
`20:11.42`	`CIA-12`	`aX_RaidStatus:`
`20:11.42`	`CIA-12`	`- Removed some debugging code and stopped syncing for now.`
`20:11.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`ckknight: D:`
`20:11.45`	Funkeh`	`Is the unwell instance down for US ptr also?`
`20:11.58`	Funkeh`	`sunwell`
`20:12.15`	`durcyn`	`was working a couple of hours ago`
`20:12.58`	`dylanm`	`A lot of buttons, no quick way to see what you have bound, etc. He even calls it ugly on the wowi page. There are some alternatives like qUserKey and BindPad but I'm not sure that they have their downsides.`
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`20:13.26`	`dylanm`	`Obviously nymbia is fantastic but yeah I think there's room for a nice binding addon.`
`20:13.36`	`dylanm`	`You can always use oBindings if you're feeling adventurous.`
`20:13.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`huh?`
`20:13.45`	`durcyn`	`i dunno, i think spellbinder's about perfect`
`20:13.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`betterkeybindings`
`20:14.34`	`dylanm`	`sag_ich_nicht: Does that do spells and stuff?`
`20:14.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no :P`
`20:15.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`go get flexbar2`
`20:15.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`put spells on flexbar`
`20:15.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`bind flexbar to keys`
`20:15.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hide flexbar`
`20:15.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`zomfg keybinds!`
`20:19.00`	`genetik`	`in my opinion, if someone can't remember what key something is bound to, it probably isn't used enough to justify binding it to a key`
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`20:19.24`	`Kivin`	`my problem is i never really get settled with a layout and end up changing things semi frequently`
`20:19.49`	`Kivin`	`the only keybindings i use on a regular basis are the ones immediately adjacent to my movement kys IJKL`
`20:19.51`	`alcaras`	`anyone know where to get "Rupture Tournament Addon"?`
`20:20.02`	`Kivin`	`google?`
`20:20.18`	`alcaras`	`not available on google`
`20:20.26`	`Kivin`	`then it doesn't exist`
`20:20.27`	`alcaras`	`was a limited time addon from rupture`
`20:20.29`	`alcaras`	`it still is`
`20:20.31`	`alcaras`	`out there`
`20:20.40`	`alcaras`	`people are using it, just not publicly available :(`
`20:20.45`	`alcaras`	`wondering if someone might distribute it to me!`
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`20:23.34`	`Elsia`	`heya`
`20:25.27`	`Firelemming`	`sry to bump my question: http://ace.pastey.net/82306 when i call the function RequestVersions I should get a recieved function call, but it doesnt.`
`20:26.21`	`Adirelle`	`~pil`
`20:26.22`	`purl`	`Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.`
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`20:30.25`	`CIA-12`	`03cgaddy * r61502 10aX_RaidStatus/:`
`20:30.25`	`CIA-12`	`aX_RaidStatus:`
`20:30.25`	`CIA-12`	`-Fixed Libs`
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`20:40.41`	`sb_`	`Saroz_: is "shield wall" priority higher than "aggro"? (sRaidFrame text line)`
`20:41.06`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61503 10Recount/Tracker.lua:`
`20:41.06`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`20:41.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed up AddCombatant from Sync actions (untested)`
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`20:41.39`	`ramoz`	`ckknight: ping?`
`20:41.45`	`ckknight`	`pong`
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`20:42.26`	`ramoz`	`i think Barfader is broken`
`20:42.43`	`ramoz`	`if you reverese the bars the fading apears on the wrong side`
`20:43.30`	`Saroz_`	`sb_, unsure, check advanced options, it's sorted by priority`
`20:43.45`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Any ideas? Recount goes ..\AddOns\Recount\Recount.lua line 1061: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "UNIT_PET" to method "UNIT_PET", it does not exist" and "..\AddOns\Recount\Recount.lua line 544: attempt to index field 'Pets' (a nil value)"`
`20:43.47`	`ckknight`	`ramoz: make a jira ticket?`
`20:44.01`	`ramoz`	`meh, cba`
`20:45.04`	`sb_`	`Saroz_: ahh cool`
`20:45.07`	`sb_`	`okay`
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`20:49.13`	`CIA-12`	`03feu * r61504 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-frFR.lua:`
`20:49.13`	`CIA-12`	`Quartz:`
`20:49.13`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated frFR translations. Now fully localized for french clients`
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`20:51.37`	`CIA-12`	`03feu * r61505 10MobileVault/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua:`
`20:51.37`	`CIA-12`	`MobileVault:`
`20:51.37`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated frFR localization`
`20:51.47`	`Elsia`	`sun: that live or PTR code?`
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`20:53.46`	`Elsia`	`sun: can you check if you have an intact pets.lua file in the recount folder?`
`20:53.47`	`Kivin`	`Cenarion circle just crapped out :(`
`20:56.24`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Live code`
`20:57.30`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: For all I can tell it looks OK`
`20:58.04`	`Elsia`	`hmm, weird. Recount:UNIT_PET is in pets.lua and it also defines the Pets variable that Recount.lua wants`
`20:58.15`	`Elsia`	`that from most recent WAU download I suppose?`
`20:59.18`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: JWoWUpdater, but it should be that latest version`
`20:59.29`	`HunterZ0`	`Is there some kind of Ace3 configurator that gives me access to all Ace3 addon option menus at once?`
`20:59.48`	`CIA-12`	`03firelemming * r61506 10RuinBossTactics/ (4 files):`
`20:59.48`	`CIA-12`	`RuinBossTactics:`
`20:59.48`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`20:59.55`	`Nargiddley`	`If you have Ace3 installed standalone /ace3`
`21:00.06`	`HunterZ0`	`perfect, thanks`
`21:01.12`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I don't know if it is a recent problem, I didn't use recount for a long time`
`21:01.49`	`Primer`	`Is it possible to pass the mouse events down to the UI parent "through" my frame, and only capture the mouse if a key modifier is present?`
`21:01.51`	`Elsia`	`sun: I don't have that problem, can you try turn off other addons and see if the problem persists?`
`21:02.04`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`21:02.09`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Sure, one moment please`
`21:02.13`	`Elsia`	`sun: thanks`
`21:02.22`	`Primer`	`Xinhuan: I'm guessing that was a for me?`
`21:02.26`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`21:02.43`	`Primer`	`well that sucks`
`21:03.07`	`Cryect-Work`	`you could change if your frame interacts with the mouse when the modifiers are pressed or not`
`21:03.09`	`Primer`	`gonna have to make an option for dragging it around then`
`21:03.45`	`Primer`	`Cryect-Work: I have it set already to drag the frame around if control is pressed`
`21:03.54`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Will take some time, though, reload ui is slowish`
`21:03.54`	`Primer`	`while dragging`
`21:04.00`	`Xinhuan`	`not a pleasant solution, since you need a OnUpdate to constantly test for IsXkeyDown()`
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`21:04.21`	`Cryect-Work`	`right but not really a big issue since you are only doing one operation`
`21:04.29`	`Cryect-Work`	`be nice if they had a proper onkeydown event`
`21:04.33`	`Primer`	`it's just that the UI parent doesn't receive input when the mouse is over it, even if it's hidden`
`21:04.38`	`Xinhuan`	`there isn't one for modifier keys`
`21:04.42`	`Cryect-Work`	`I know :(`
`21:04.57`	`Elsia`	`sun: what class you playing?`
`21:05.47`	`Cryect-Work`	`Primer just have an OnUpdate function that checks if the ctrl key is down and then enable/disable if the frame interacts with the mouse and it should work like you want but yeah you do need an onupdate`
`21:05.50`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Right now hunter`
`21:06.12`	`Elsia`	`cryect: any ideas how to improve sync for 2.4?`
`21:06.14`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I have the same problem on my warlock and on my rogue`
`21:06.20`	`Elsia`	`sun: hmm alright`
`21:06.31`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: I have to ask, is syncing really necessary?`
`21:06.46`	`Elsia`	`define "necessary" ;)`
`21:06.48`	`NeoTron`	`how often do you actually gain from it? on archimonde?`
`21:07.02`	`NeoTron`	`worth the network traffic/work needed to implement/maintain it`
`21:07.05`	`Elsia`	`if you want to track split fights like sunwell apparently has it, yes`
`21:07.23`	`Elsia`	`I generally run without sync when using recount ;)`
`21:07.25`	`Primer`	`Cryect-Work: well, I already have an onupdate`
`21:07.26`	`Xinhuan`	`Elsia, might i say i don't agree with adding "support for threat-1.0 for recount 2.4", and "adding back babble-boss/race" because threat-1.0 needs it in recount 2.4 is ridiculous, seeing as threat-1.0 doesn't work in 2.4`
`21:07.40`	`Primer`	`which can be configured to run on every frame :)`
`21:07.41`	`Xinhuan`	`threat-2.0 doesn't require any babble libs`
`21:07.41`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: hmm I do suppose sunwell have a fight where it might apply..`
`21:07.58`	`Elsia`	`xin: once threat-2.0 is ready I'll switch over`
`21:08.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`remove threat-1.0`
`21:08.10`	`Xinhuan`	`there is no reason to even keep 1.0 around because it does NOT work in 2.4`
`21:08.19`	`Xinhuan`	`just remove it seriously`
`21:08.25`	`Xinhuan`	`its a 2.4 branch`
`21:08.26`	`Antiarc\|zzzzz`	`I'm sorry, Threat-2.0 is delayed on account of Audiosurf`
`21:08.29`	`Elsia`	`the branches commit is alpha... ;)`
`21:08.37`	`Antiarc\|Audiosur`	`BAH`
`21:08.54`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I now turned off everything except recount and the ace libs it needs, Swatter and ACP and I still get it`
`21:08.57`	`Elsia`	`i make no guarantee that the branches commit even runs, so I don't know what all this is about... threat-1.0 will die before 2.4 goes live`
`21:09.14`	`Elsia`	`sun: that's very weird because I can't reproduce it... can you try update again?`
`21:09.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`no it wont`
`21:09.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`since threat-2.0 wont work until 2.4 goes live`
`21:09.50`	`Elsia`	`so no omen when 2.4 goes live? could be fun`
`21:10.05`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Now it also goes "....Widgets.lua line 18: attempt to index field 'Colors' (a nil value)"`
`21:10.07`	`Xinhuan`	`threat-1.0 dies on the exact same day 2.0 goes live`
`21:10.16`	`Xinhuan`	`which is patch 2.4 day`
`21:10.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`not before`
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`21:10.26`	`Xinhuan`	`you should be prepping recount to do the same`
`21:10.28`	`Elsia`	`sun: can you delete your WTF/*/Recount.lua files?`
`21:10.37`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I already did`
`21:10.38`	`kneeki`	`*waev`
`21:10.40`	`kneeki`	`wave`
`21:10.57`	`Elsia`	`xin: reocunt will be ready, not sure why you are so worried about this`
`21:11.01`	`Elsia`	`recount even`
`21:11.19`	`Elsia`	`sun: kind of dumbfounded, can you post the full error list on the recount thread on wowace?`
`21:11.31`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Didn't try updating again, but I use r61068. I'll try the embedded version and see if that helps`
`21:11.37`	`Elsia`	`i certainly won't leave idle threat-1.0 in 2.4 live recount`
`21:11.48`	`Primer`	`ok, that worked perfectly`
`21:12.02`	`Elsia`	`sun: that's the most recent version`
`21:12.14`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I know, so I did not update again ;)`
`21:12.27`	`Elsia`	`sun: you are running embedded or standalone libs?`
`21:12.45`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: standalone, that's why I'll try embedded right now`
`21:12.55`	`Elsia`	`sun: cool, let me know if that helps.`
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`21:13.47`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: It did`
`21:13.53`	`Elsia`	`works now?`
`21:14.11`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Like a charm. No more errors and decoration again ;)`
`21:14.15`	`Elsia`	`hmm weird`
`21:14.39`	`Elsia`	`xin: btw, recount doesn't need babble-spell anymore ;)`
`21:14.56`	`Xinhuan`	`what did it use it for anyway?`
`21:15.09`	`Xinhuan`	`just for syncing between different language clients?`
`21:15.09`	`Elsia`	`CC, heal tracking, dot durations`
`21:15.16`	`Elsia`	`and syncing too`
`21:15.22`	`Elsia`	`it now syncs spellIds`
`21:16.16`	`CIA-12`	`03cgaddy * r61507 10aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua aX_RaidStatus.toc):`
`21:16.16`	`CIA-12`	`aX_RaidStatus:`
`21:16.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Changed Category to raids and fixed a loading error.`
`21:17.02`	`Elsia`	`xin: it also uses as much of the flags as it can, unfortunately it doesn't completely replace roster, so I'll still need that. Tried to rewrite it from scratch just to realize that I use virtually 100% of Roster anyway.`
`21:17.11`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: I'm fairly new to lua and WoW addons, no experience, but is it normal for OptionalDeps and X-Embeds to differ? There is e.g.`
`21:17.15`	`Xinhuan`	`heh`
`21:17.33`	`SunTsu`	`SpecialEventsEmbed missing in ODeps, which is in X-Embeds`
`21:17.35`	`CIA-12`	`03barfolomeu * r61508 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc): FlightHUD: Fixed issue where mouse was always enabled, causing it to capture the mouse input while it was over it, even if it was hidden`
`21:17.36`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, optionaldeps and xembeds can defer`
`21:17.36`	`Elsia`	`sun: yeah if some dependencies are actually really optional like SharedMedia-2.0`
`21:17.38`	`Xinhuan`	`differ*`
`21:17.52`	`Elsia`	`hmm that should be in there actually`
`21:17.57`	`Xinhuan`	`x-embeds specifies necessary dependencies that WAU grabs if you use no-ext`
`21:18.08`	`Xinhuan`	`optdeps specifies truely optdeps`
`21:18.22`	`Xinhuan`	`which wow will load if they are available standalone`
`21:18.32`	`Elsia`	`specialeventsembed is part of thread-1.0 so that'll go with 2.4 anyway.`
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`21:19.00`	`SunTsu`	`OK, was just looking for possible reasons that a dummy like me could see ;)`
`21:19.10`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm thinking all the specialevents libs will be deprecated hopefully`
`21:19.41`	`Elsia`	`recount without threat doesn't need it so it'll be gone, same for babble-boss and babble-race. I am still debating how to handle babble-class`
`21:19.47`	`Elsia`	`i do need those localized somehow...`
`21:20.22`	`Xinhuan`	`if you have menus that show those classes, you have to use it`
`21:20.27`	`Xinhuan`	`no way around it`
`21:20.41`	`Xinhuan`	`so don't fuss over it`
`21:20.45`	`Elsia`	`basically when all is set and done recount looks at being dependent on ace3, roster and possibly babble-class. I do need the mob translation feature of thread so I may have to improvise if threat-2.0 isn't ready`
`21:21.11`	`Elsia`	`oh and libsharedmedia.`
`21:21.48`	`Xinhuan`	`for example, you might think that bigwigs can get rid of libbabble-boss, but technically speaking, it can't, because it has to display those localized boss names in the config menus`
`21:21.59`	`Elsia`	`yeah`
`21:22.14`	Funkeh`	`well`
`21:22.19`	`Elsia`	`it's a shame we don't have the equivalent of GetSpellInfo for mobs/GUIDs`
`21:22.21`	Funkeh`	`GetBossInfo(id)`
`21:22.23`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`21:22.25`	`Kivin`	`This magisters' terrace spelling mistake in atlasloot is irritating the hell out of me. think anyone would mind if i commited a fix?`
`21:22.26`	`Elsia`	`oh`
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`21:22.30`	Funkeh`	`in my dream`
`21:22.37`	`Elsia`	`sigh`
`21:22.39`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`21:22.41`	`Cryect-Work`	`btw Elsia, sometime I like to discuss the underlying framework for Recount 2 with you that I'm developing`
`21:22.54`	`Elsia`	`cryect, just say when`
`21:22.57`	`Roath`	`where can i find the color code that blizzard uses for their yellow-ish text?`
`21:23.23`	`Cryect-Work`	`you going to be on sometime during the weekend since you normally goto sleep around the time I get home from work (which makes sense)`
`21:23.45`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Anyway, sorry for taking your time, should have tried that on my own`
`21:23.46`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: And thanks a lot`
`21:24.04`	`Elsia`	`well I raid in the evenings on weekends, I could do early before 7pm CET if that works for you?`
`21:24.13`	`Elsia`	`sun: no worries at all`
`21:24.35`	`Cryect-Work`	`CET = -1H GMT right?`
`21:24.45`	`Elsia`	`+1`
`21:24.50`	`Cryect-Work`	`err +1 yeah`
`21:24.55`	`Elsia`	`5pm GMT = 6pm CET`
`21:25.05`	`Cryect-Work`	`Xinhuan: heh can't respond in tell but I don't plan to`
`21:25.05`	`Elsia`	`that's 6 hours of eastern and 9 off pacific`
`21:25.06`	`Megalon`	`Cyrez: yea, +1`
`21:25.15`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
`21:25.45`	`Megalon`	`and as it's 2223 right now.. good night :P`
`21:25.45`	`Elsia`	`basically 6pm CET is 9am pacific`
`21:25.47`	`Cryect-Work`	`Though they will be forced into say the 'main' data which can be displayed in a ton of ways`
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`21:26.00`	`Cryect-Work`	`6PM CET is fine`
`21:26.02`	`NeoTron`	`easy conversion: add 3 hours and make a 12h flip`
`21:26.03`	`NeoTron`	`:)`
`21:26.14`	`Elsia`	`coolio, I'll be around`
`21:26.34`	`Cryect-Work`	`Right Xinhuan, thats my plan (and thinks this must confuse people who can't see the other side :-p)`
`21:26.40`	`Xinhuan`	`indeed`
`21:27.00`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll probably take a pass over graph-2.0 and optimize that sometime before march`
`21:27.41`	`Cryect-Work`	`cool`
`21:28.12`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think 2.4 will come that fast, it'll be 2 months before they release it lol`
`21:28.23`	`NeoTron`	`that is what I'd expect`
`21:28.31`	`Xinhuan`	`2.3 took forever`
`21:28.34`	`NeoTron`	`which would double the ime out guild will have to farm t6`
`21:28.41`	`Elsia`	`still some basic errors on PTR, even combat log stuff... like life tap doesn't display damage done yet.`
`21:28.45`	`NeoTron`	`2.3 was interrupted by the holidays too`
`21:29.03`	`nevcairiel`	`they said that the combatlog is still a work in progress`
`21:29.11`	`Elsia`	`yeah noticed`
`21:29.11`	`nevcairiel`	`and will tell us once its ready for full feedback`
`21:29.17`	`Xinhuan`	`i can assure you there will also be a 2.5`
`21:29.36`	`cncfanatics`	`there probably will`
`21:29.38`	`Xinhuan`	`but it'll be sometime like july or so, or even later`
`21:29.47`	`Xinhuan`	`i also expect season 4 then`
`21:29.54`	`Xinhuan`	`they can't make season 3 last indeifnitely`
`21:29.56`	`Xinhuan`	`until wotlk`
`21:30.04`	`cncfanatics`	`who knows :p`
`21:30.10`	`Xinhuan`	`people willc ry foul`
`21:30.17`	`Xinhuan`	`and if season 3 lasted 10 months`
`21:30.17`	`NeoTron`	`too bad for them!`
`21:30.21`	`Xinhuan`	`everyone would be fully decked`
`21:30.34`	`Kivin`	`i keep losing saved vars o_o`
`21:30.35`	`Xinhuan`	`even if you only got 300 points a week`
`21:30.45`	`Kivin`	`third time today i've found an addon had reset some fascet of itself`
`21:31.02`	`Elsia`	`getting like 0 points a week :D`
`21:31.22`	`Xinhuan`	`you can solo queue i think ;p`
`21:31.24`	`Xinhuan`	`or can you?`
`21:31.29`	`Xinhuan`	`for a 2v2`
`21:31.29`	`cncfanatics`	`you can prolly`
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`21:31.39`	`Elsia`	`don't care too much so it's fine`
`21:31.50`	`cncfanatics`	`don't care either :p`
`21:31.52`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm not a pvp'er`
`21:32.18`	`Elsia`	`I enjoy BGs on occasion, and arenaing early was fun too, but my time is limited so some things have to give.`
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`21:33.18`	`CIA-12`	`03piotrb * r61509 10FuBar_FishingFu/: FuBar_FishingFu: creating new mod folder`
`21:34.08`	`Xinhuan`	`o_O`
`21:34.13`	`Elsia`	`if I could just ask for one GUID related API call it would be GetPetHandler(GUID)`
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`21:34.32`	`Xinhuan`	`what does that do? get the owner's name?`
`21:34.39`	`Elsia`	`yeah`
`21:34.47`	`NeoTron`	`ask for it?`
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`21:34.50`	`Xinhuan`	`betcha it'll be declined`
`21:34.56`	`Xinhuan`	`and you will require owners syncing`
`21:34.58`	`Elsia`	`I can't post on US forums ;)`
`21:35.04`	`Elsia`	`<- third rate WoW citizen`
`21:35.27`	`Xinhuan`	`they have pretty much excluded any sort of function that allows name<->guid translations in both directions`
`21:35.34`	`Elsia`	`in fact they have to handle the hunter pet name exploit somehow`
`21:35.43`	`Elsia`	`GetPetHandler could resolve that for unit frames as well`
`21:35.58`	`Xinhuan`	`well at least proximo etc can tell the difference`
`21:35.58`	`Elsia`	`but you'd need to get GUID from target which doesn't exist either`
`21:36.00`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: I've sent a request so Sam`
`21:36.10`	`Elsia`	`neo: thanks`
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`21:36.24`	`NeoTron`	`he's a friend of mine so I bypass the forums >:-)`
`21:36.26`	`CIA-12`	`03piotrb * r61510 10FuBar_FishingFu/libs/: FuBar_FishingFu: adding libs folder so I can use externals`
`21:36.46`	`Xinhuan`	`i want a "/target 0x12124761834" command ;p`
`21:37.10`	`NeoTron`	`I want /target icon=star`
`21:37.15`	`NeoTron`	`or similar :P`
`21:37.24`	`SunTsu`	`I want both ;)`
`21:37.31`	`exor674`	`QQ`
`21:37.37`	`Elsia`	`i don't think /target GUID for players is a huge issue, for NPCs it does change things`
`21:37.50`	`Elsia`	`player names are unique up to pet exploits`
`21:38.09`	`NeoTron`	`whas is this pet exploit you're talking about?`
`21:38.12`	`Elsia`	`but take teron gorefiend when you can GUID target the constructs.. makes it a lot easier`
`21:38.13`	`exor674`	`I think US PvE crached`
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`21:38.13`	`Xinhuan`	`what is the difference between "latte" and "cuppachino"?`
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`21:38.43`	`nevcairiel`	`latte has more milk`
`21:38.55`	`Elsia`	`neo: if a hunter names his pet like another player and both are in target/unit frame use... both targeting and unit frames go bonkers`
`21:39.08`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`21:39.19`	`keiss`	`Elsia: grid doesnt like that either ;)`
`21:39.22`	`Xinhuan`	`i remember Grid has this issue`
`21:39.22`	`Tifi`	`latte macchiato (sp?) means tainted milk or sth`
`21:39.24`	`Elsia`	`basically there is no way to distinguish them so even if you got the pet frame and click it for target you may get the player and vice versas`
`21:39.24`	`NeoTron`	`gorefiend is so stupid easy`
`21:39.28`	`Xinhuan`	`2 paladins in the same BG from diff servers`
`21:39.35`	`Xinhuan`	`with the same name`
`21:39.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`LOL`
`21:39.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`MEANEST`
`21:39.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`PLAN`
`21:39.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`EVER`
`21:39.41`	`Xinhuan`	`and Grid doesn't update their health/buffs at all properly`
`21:39.47`	`keiss`	`yep`
`21:39.47`	`Elsia`	`it's a design cludge... basically pets need to be distinguished from players as unique entities`
`21:39.48`	`NeoTron`	`I got the ghost first on our last kill`
`21:39.56`	`Xinhuan`	`when one pally changes, both gets updated`
`21:39.59`	`jonathan\|work`	`Xinhuan:`
`21:40.02`	`Xinhuan`	`due to the libroster thing`
`21:40.04`	`NeoTron`	`and mine was dead and I helped kill the second players (2 dead) before my time ran out`
`21:40.05`	`jonathan\|work`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappucino`
`21:40.25`	`keiss`	`i hade to force one of our hunters to get a new pet because of that :)`
`21:40.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`!i Nightfall`
`21:40.46`	`ThraeBot`	`sag_ich_nicht: Name: [Nightfall]; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoE; Two-Handed Axe; 187 - 282 dmg; 3.5 delay; 67 dps; Requires L60; 120 Durability; Spell damage taken by target increased by 15% for 5 sec.. \|\| http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=19169 \|\| http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19169`
`21:40.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`okay`
`21:41.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`now give this to your def warriors in fights where they don't tank`
`21:41.06`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`e.g. having feral tank morogrim`
`21:41.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`-->raid dps thru the roof`
`21:41.12`	`Elsia`	`nightfall procs are no longer worth it`
`21:41.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Elsia: does more raid dps than a def warrior in berz stance hitting the boss`
`21:41.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`21:41.43`	`Elsia`	`sag: no, go EJ forum to see the math`
`21:41.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`o rly`
`21:41.52`	`Tifi`	`why doesn't GetCursorInfo() work for pet spells?`
`21:41.59`	`Elsia`	`def warrior at 700 dps, nightfall for typical caster setup at 650 dps`
`21:42.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Elsia: happen to have a link`
`21:42.08`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: wow`
`21:42.15`	`Elsia`	`sag: not on hand, but search EJ`
`21:42.15`	`NeoTron`	`who has a def warrior that does 700 dps? :P`
`21:42.18`	`Tifi`	`it returns nil while i'm dragging a pet spell`
`21:42.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd like to see a def warrior that does 700 dps too`
`21:42.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`maybe in T6`
`21:42.30`	`NeoTron`	`one of ours managed to clock in 450 dps, below the feral tank, on gorefiend`
`21:42.35`	`Elsia`	`neo: we do in t5`
`21:42.48`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61511 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: add sath back in`
`21:42.59`	`Codayus_`	`Your prot warriors suck.`
`21:43.01`	`Elsia`	`well they have to use the right rotation of course, EJ post described DPSing as prot`
`21:43.16`	`Elsia`	`but a sensible prot warrior in dps gear should pull 700 dps really`
`21:43.18`	`NeoTron`	`Codayus_: that is true`
`21:43.30`	`NeoTron`	`what is the best dps as prot? 2h or 1h + shield slam?`
`21:43.42`	`Codayus_`	`Although in fairness, so do most of ours.`
`21:43.51`	`Elsia`	`not shield slam :P`
`21:43.56`	`Codayus_`	`Neither, DW, IIRC.`
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`21:44.31`	`Elsia`	`anyway, EJ forum, I just know 1/3 of the story really but our prot warriors do pull that dps`
`21:44.38`	`Codayus_`	`They should gear like fury, then just abuse the hell out of devestate and WW.`
`21:44.55`	`Elsia`	`basically we just talked our prot warrior out of getting nightfall made after going through the math :P`
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`21:45.10`	`Codayus_`	`Actually, there's an interesting point.`
`21:45.23`	`Codayus_`	`Most of our prot warriors suck really really badly at DPSing.`
`21:45.41`	`Codayus_`	`Maybe getting Nightfall for them WOULDN'T be a bad idea...`
`21:45.44`	`Xinhuan`	`i just pay them 50g to respec :o`
`21:45.50`	`Civrock`	`Our Prot Warriors do ~1300 DPS in DPS gear. Hell, our MT does ~700 DPS while tanking.`
`21:45.53`	`Elsia`	`if your warriors drop below 600 dps nightfall may be worth it again, but you can improve by simply improving the prot warrior DPS`
`21:46.21`	`NeoTron`	`got a post to prot warrior dps?`
`21:46.39`	`Codayus_`	`Of course, I worry that they'd remember to equip it. One of our prot warriors died to his inner demon on Leo because he was using a tanking weapon + shield. Forgot to change.`
`21:46.53`	`Civrock`	`Spell Reflect.`
`21:47.05`	`Xinhuan`	`prot warriors dying to inner demon isn't too bad`
`21:47.11`	`Xinhuan`	`you only need 1 tank alive anyway`
`21:47.13`	`NeoTron`	`sec`
`21:47.18`	`Civrock`	`It's not hard, though. :P`
`21:47.29`	`Xinhuan`	`the problem is when the demon refuses to cast shadowbolt ;p`
`21:47.37`	`Civrock`	`True, but rare.`
`21:47.40`	`NeoTron`	`http://wowwebstats.com/yzidyqvfo16ga?s=2371-2620 warrior named "Tisa" was dpsing and is below the feal druid`
`21:47.44`	`NeoTron`	`(tank)`
`21:47.55`	`Codayus_`	`But that's okay, one of our DPS warriors didn't notice Inner Demon...or the boss mod warnings...or his name called on vent...and didn't actually hit his.`
`21:48.10`	`Codayus_`	`I think it's something about the plate warriors wear; sucks the oxygen from their brains.`
`21:48.12`	`Recluse`	`prot warriors don't dps, they dpm`
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`21:48.28`	`Xinhuan`	`i was wondering if BossBlock should be defaulted on or off in bigwigs ;p`
`21:48.33`	`Elsia`	`neo: she was dpsing with shield... and no whirlwinds as I see it, maybe no windfury in group either?`
`21:48.33`	`Xinhuan`	`some ppl really have narrow vision`
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`21:48.44`	`kenlyric`	`get a smaller screen`
`21:48.47`	`NeoTron`	`do yuou have any WWS links to prot warriors doing 700 dps?`
`21:48.52`	Funkeh`	`Xinhuan, never ever change your addons cause of stupid people`
`21:49.00`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: obviously we don't give WF to a prot warrior`
`21:49.04`	`Xinhuan`	`i suppose you have a valid point funkeh`
`21:49.23`	`Xinhuan`	`but hey, mods are there to dumb down an encounter`
`21:49.49`	`Elsia`	`neo: depends, who else is there to get it`
`21:50.00`	`NeoTron`	`rogues, ret pally and dps warrior`
`21:50.25`	`Codayus_`	`Actually, giving WF for the duration of the demon to people who will struggle without it isn't a bad idea.`
`21:50.44`	`Xinhuan`	`thet requires like group swapping and stuff`
`21:50.54`	`Civrock`	`NeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/w4pqktogbkocs?s=2529-2709 and http://wowwebstats.com/3mdpqg45c1cyg?s=7477-7670 ;)`
`21:50.55`	`NeoTron`	`Codayus_: I'm talking in general`
`21:50.56`	`NeoTron`	`not on leo`
`21:51.02`	`Xinhuan`	`and if its the melee group, they already have windfury usually`
`21:51.27`	`NeoTron`	`usually the melee group is melee DPS group`
`21:51.34`	`Codayus_`	`Ah.`
`21:51.35`	`Elsia`	`neo: anyway, by the looks she was using 1-h and shield... just a DPS style 2-H weapon will do wonders here, and WW use.`
`21:51.36`	`Xinhuan`	`enchancement shamans`
`21:51.40`	`NeoTron`	`we've started putting WF with the warrior(s) for threat-bound fights`
`21:51.53`	`NeoTron`	`Elsia: he has the wpn from Gorefiend (the 2H one)`
`21:51.54`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61513 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: stick with the rest of the API for RW icons`
`21:52.07`	`NeoTron`	`but is the best setup 2h or dual-wield?`
`21:52.24`	`Elsia`	`neo: either is better than all the shield slams she did ;)`
`21:52.28`	`Codayus_`	`DW`
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`21:52.32`	`Tifi`	`you can't devastate with a 2h`
`21:52.47`	`NeoTron`	`so this warrior was using 1h + shield slam and did > 700 DPS... http://wowwebstats.com/3mdpqg45c1cyg?s=7477-7670&a=18#abilities`
`21:52.49`	`Kivin`	`wtb an addon that changes the lfg drop downs from "Dungeon" to "Heroic Dungeon"`
`21:52.52`	`Codayus_`	`Devastate is retardedly OP, and 1H weapon spec is very nice.`
`21:53.02`	`Codayus_`	`I've seen prot warriors break 1k dps on WWS.`
`21:53.16`	`Civrock`	`He was tanking, NeoTron.`
`21:53.27`	`NeoTron`	`I was just looking at that :P`
`21:53.43`	`NeoTron`	`still`
`21:53.49`	`Civrock`	`TPS Monster.`
`21:53.57`	`NeoTron`	`tanking and doing over 700 dps.. but waht level of gear?`
`21:54.03`	`Civrock`	`T6`
`21:54.06`	`Civrock`	`:P`
`21:54.07`	`vhaarr`	`can do that with T5+`
`21:54.15`	`vhaarr`	`provided you get enough rage`
`21:54.25`	`NeoTron`	`Citta = prot dpsing?`
`21:54.33`	`Civrock`	`Yes.`
`21:54.51`	`NeoTron`	`Civrock: likelty full t6 dps gear?`
`21:55.06`	`CIA-12`	`03daviesh * r61514 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua:`
`21:55.06`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot:`
`21:55.06`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed typo causing Babble to spit the dummy`
`21:55.17`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61515 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Work with latest sink`
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`21:55.54`	`NeoTron`	`I wish we had good warriors. /dreams`
`21:56.11`	`Baldor_work`	`if color is defined by (##, ##, ##), what should i google to get some kind of color chart to get me on my way`
`21:56.13`	`Civrock`	`No, a few T6 equivalent offset items and some other stuff I can't think of.`
`21:56.35`	`Baldor_work`	`it's with the oUF (.25, .25, .35) for dark grey for instance`
`21:56.47`	`Kivin`	`just open mspaint`
`21:56.51`	`Baldor_work`	`standard RGB code doesnt seme to work`
`21:57.34`	`Kivin`	`mspaint = 1 .. 255. lua = 0.0 .. 1.0. so mspaint value / 255`
`21:58.00`	`Baldor_work`	`ah, thanks`
`21:58.02`	`Baldor_work`	`makes sense, kinda`
`21:58.08`	`Kivin`	`...`
`21:58.16`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61516 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.cn.lua:`
`21:58.16`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`21:58.16`	`CIA-12`	`- Update zhCN locale`
`21:58.36`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61517 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.cn.lua:`
`21:58.36`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`21:58.36`	`CIA-12`	`- Update zhCN locale`
`21:58.39`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61518 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Sync.lua pets.lua):`
`21:58.39`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`21:58.39`	`CIA-12`	`- All FixLogString code disabled. Yay.`
`21:58.53`	`Tifi`	`does anyone how to get a dragged pet spell from the cursor?`
`21:58.56`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61519 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.cn.lua:`
`21:58.56`	`CIA-12`	`AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:`
`21:58.56`	`CIA-12`	`- Update zhCN locale`
`22:00.19`	`CIA-12`	`03feu * r61520 10oRA2/ (12 files in 4 dirs):`
`22:00.19`	`CIA-12`	`oRA2:`
`22:00.19`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated & corrected some frFR translations`
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`22:01.32`	`Elsia`	`kind of funny: powerType SPELL_POWER_RUNES is already in the game`
`22:02.23`	`Xinhuan`	`produced by what?`
`22:02.23`	Funkeh`	`why is that funny? ;p`
`22:02.37`	`Xinhuan`	`or is that just a constant in some file`
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`22:02.48`	`Elsia`	`Blizzard_CombatLog.lua not funny, just means the deathknight preps are that far`
`22:02.51`	`nevcairiel`	`probably just a constant used for deathknights in the expansion`
`22:02.58`	`Elsia`	`just the constant for now`
`22:03.01`	Funkeh`	`oh`
`22:03.16`	`Xinhuan`	`they need to move all those constants out of Blizzard_CombatLog`
`22:03.24`	`Xinhuan`	`so that addons don't need to forceload it`
`22:03.29`	`Xinhuan`	`or copy the constants out`
`22:03.59`	`Elsia`	`need to poke alex yoshi about that ;)`
`22:04.07`	`Xinhuan`	`already mailed him`
`22:04.52`	`Xinhuan`	`did i mention, blizzard dropdownmenus suck`
`22:05.16`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61521 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: copy and paste is bad`
`22:05.21`	`Elsia`	`you tell me now that I ported everything to them? lol`
`22:06.15`	`Xinhuan`	`i mean the one that uses the template style`
`22:06.18`	`Elsia`	`it's good to not depend on dewdrop though... one less dependency that isn't ready for ace3 porting`
`22:06.27`	`Xinhuan`	`with a "chosen" item and a down arrow button`
`22:07.27`	`Elsia`	`anyone knows how "ready" roster-3.0 is, i mean the one in the grid branch`
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`22:09.27`	`NeoTron`	`Civrock: so it seems our prot warriors do about 300-350 dps while tanking`
`22:10.17`	`CIA-12`	`03pettigrow * r61522 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: frFR Update`
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`22:11.15`	`genetik`	`NeoTron: that's about what i get while tanking`
`22:11.31`	`genetik`	`(just starting tier 6 content)`
`22:12.21`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61523 10Recount/ (FixLogStrings.lua Recount.toc):`
`22:12.21`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`22:12.21`	`CIA-12`	`- Removed all FixLogStrings.lua dependency, and the file.`
`22:15.42`	`CIA-12`	`03starinnia * r61524 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Properly give an alias to the pause event so we can query and cancel it`
`22:16.15`	`CIA-12`	`03starinnia * r61525 10Prescription_Pickup/ (. Core.lua Prescription_Pickup.toc): Prescription_Pickup: Completely remove framework dependency`
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`22:16.58`	`NeoTron`	`our other prot warrior did 716 DPS on kaz'rogal`
`22:17.03`	`NeoTron`	`that's more like it for his level of gear`
`22:17.16`	`NeoTron`	`the 450 dps on gorefiend warrior has better dps gear`
`22:19.22`	`CIA-12`	`03starinnia * r61526 10Prescription_Pickup/ (Core.lua Prescription_Pickup.toc): Prescription_Pickup: Remove debug lines I thought I deleted already >.<`
`22:20.16`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61527 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: use the already available fmt`
`22:23.27`	`SunTsu`	`Elsia: Thank you for making me disable all addons and reenabling them. Finally mobmap started to work with cartographer again...`
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`22:23.46`	`SunTsu`	`I just know how or why`
`22:24.31`	`CIA-12`	`03barfolomeu * r61528 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc):`
`22:24.31`	`CIA-12`	`FlightHUD: Fixed issue where mouse was always enabled, causing it to capture the mouse input while it was over it, even if it was hidden.`
`22:24.31`	`CIA-12`	`Merge from branches -r61080:61508`
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`22:25.01`	`chiper`	`thank you barfolomeu`
`22:27.24`	`Xinhuan`	`time to sleep, nn`
`22:27.34`	`SunTsu`	`g'night Xinhuan`
`22:28.45`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61529 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Rename :RegisterCombatLogEvent to :AddCombatListener.`
`22:30.56`	`Baldor_work`	`lmk when my questions start to get annoying. anybody care to learn me how to enable target castbar in pcast?`
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`22:31.29`	`Josh_Borke`	`what's pcast?`
`22:31.38`	`Baldor_work`	`some castbar addon`
`22:31.43`	Funkeh`	`anybody care to *teach you`
`22:31.48`	`Baldor_work`	`http://code.google.com/p/p3lim/downloads/list`
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`22:32.02`	`Baldor_work`	`yea, thanks`
`22:32.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`well, seeing as how it's not developed by someone here, it'll be hard for anyone to really help you`
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`22:32.58`	`Baldor_work`	`figured somebody might be using it as well`
`22:33.04`	`Baldor_work`	`it's hard to find documentation on`
`22:33.16`	`Baldor_work`	`it states: -- Force targetcastbar to show!`
`22:33.16`	`Baldor_work`	`SetCVar(UIOptionsFrameCheckButtons["SHOW_TARGET_CASTBAR"].cvar, "1")`
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`22:33.49`	`Josh_Borke`	`man that code blows`
`22:34.07`	`Josh_Borke`	`are you running the latest version?`
`22:34.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`according to his google code page he updated 29 hours ago with a version that enabled the target cast bar`
`22:34.28`	`Antiarc`	`Guys`
`22:34.32`	`Antiarc`	`Audiosurf is freakin' excellent`
`22:34.37`	`Baldor_work`	`yea, i downloaded it ~30 mins ago`
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`22:34.49`	`Josh_Borke`	`antiarc: yea, it looked cool`
`22:35.07`	`chiper`	`Antiarc: that's 360 only, right? no pc version?`
`22:35.16`	`Antiarc`	`There's PC`
`22:35.19`	`Antiarc`	`I bought it on Steam last night`
`22:35.20`	`chiper`	`oooo`
`22:35.27`	`CIA-12`	`03rabbit * r61530 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: Solarian: 2.4 compat.`
`22:35.28`	`chiper`	`ohhh right, it's a steam release`
`22:35.35`	`chiper`	`for some reason I was thinking xbox live`
`22:35.43`	`chiper`	`how much is it?`
`22:35.47`	`Antiarc`	`$10`
`22:35.51`	`Antiarc`	`$9 if you bought it yesterday`
`22:35.53`	`Antiarc`	`(which I did)`
`22:35.56`	`chiper`	`heh`
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`22:40.17`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61531 10Chinchilla/ (4 files in 4 dirs):`
`22:40.17`	`CIA-12`	`Chinchilla - add option to the base menu to lock, which makes both MoveButtons and Position to lock, and potentially any future modules.`
`22:40.17`	`CIA-12`	`CHIN-8`
`22:42.11`	`Kivin`	`<ThraeBot> Kivin: Mahall, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (3/0/58). 12394 HP; 14449 Armour; 940 AP; 156.700 Melee DPS; 8.16% melee crit; 15 melee hit; 193 defense; 10.52% dodge; 19.37% block; 118 resilience;`
`22:42.15`	`Kivin`	`this guy is tanking my heroic =/`
`22:42.17`	`Kivin`	`sigh`
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`22:43.36`	`CIA-12`	`03firelemming * r61532 10RuinBossTactics/ (RuinBossTactics.lua RuinBossTactics.xml):`
`22:43.37`	`CIA-12`	`RuinBossTactics:`
`22:43.37`	`CIA-12`	`- Added option to spam Short Tactics when they are available for the boss that`
`22:43.37`	`CIA-12`	`is selected. Will use raid channel when you are in a raid and party channel when`
`22:43.37`	`CIA-12`	`in a party otherwise it will use the Say channel. More options might be added`
`22:43.37`	`CIA-12`	`later.`
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`22:46.42`	`keiss`	`Antiarc: what is the connection with the 'squares' ur supposed to pick up and the music , i dont get it (watching some youtube preview)`
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`22:51.12`	`Antiarc`	`The most popular mode is "mono" which has colored blocks and grey blocks`
`22:51.24`	`Antiarc`	`The blocks are laid out according to the tempo and speed of the song`
`22:51.44`	`Antiarc`	`In mono, you pick up the colored blocks to form groups of 3+, bigger groups award more points`
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`22:54.07`	`keiss`	`hm, gonna try the demo`
`22:54.25`	`cubicool`	`sct is marked as "Outdated" in WowAceUpdater--is it really deprecated in favor of something else?`
`22:55.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`no.`
`22:55.23`	Funkeh`	`it probably didn't need changed int he altst patch`
`22:56.34`	`cubicool`	`Doest development continue on SCT?`
`22:56.43`	`cubicool`	`Or is just in maintenence mode? :)`
`22:57.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`actually, I wonder where you saw "outdated"`
`22:57.41`	`cubicool`	`I'm trying to basically eliminate every aspect of my UI that I can... most people can "feel" out range and the GCD, so I really only need simple unit frames, cooldown bars, and debuff bars.`
`22:57.41`	`NeoTron`	`I thought everyone went to msbt or parrot by now`
`22:57.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`I only have "packages", "installed" and "not installed"`
`22:57.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`NeoTron: lol ;D`
`22:58.09`	`CIA-12`	`03ckknight * r61533 10Chinchilla/Position/Position.lua: Chinchilla_Position - fix issue where dragging the minimap off-screen makes it seem odd dragging it back due to the way :SetClampedToScreen works`
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`22:59.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`NeoTron: some DoT heavy class players /might/ have switched to msbt because of aggregation, the others are likely still using SCT or just use FCT because it's already there; no one has heard of Parrot anyway`
`22:59.29`	`ckknight`	`Parrot's not good enough for you?`
`22:59.47`	`Kivin`	`Parrot takes more cpu clocks than all my other addons combined`
`22:59.54`	`ckknight`	`ick`
`23:00.01`	`ckknight`	`I plan on revamping Parrot for the 2.4 patch`
`23:00.08`	`Kivin`	`And the hardlocks that occur from ParserLib4 drove me to change to msbt`
`23:00.17`	`ckknight`	`not just for the combat log stuff, either`
`23:00.19`	`Stanzilla`	`I love msbt`
`23:00.22`	`ckknight`	`I plan to have more tag support`
`23:00.27`	`ckknight`	`better throttling and the like`
`23:00.34`	`ckknight`	`overall make it lighter and cleaner`
`23:00.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`I actually have it installed, was too spammy for my taste in the default configuration - and changing the configuration took more time than reinstalling wow, windows and my entire box, so I just stuck to sct for the time being :>`
`23:00.40`	`Chompers`	`parrot really that bad Kivin?`
`23:00.46`	`Kivin`	`It's not bad. I love it`
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`23:01.39`	`Kivin`	`My computer is just too craptastic to run it.`
`23:01.43`	`NeoTron`	`Gnarfoz: I swapped from SCT quite some time ago`
`23:01.54`	`NeoTron`	`ofc I'm a "dot class" but it's mainly for AoE that it matters`
`23:02.34`	`CIA-12`	`03kurax * r61534 10Chinchilla/locale/zhCN.lua: Chinchilla: zhCN update`
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`23:03.03`	`RaydenUni`	`wowace having issues?`
`23:03.08`	`RaydenUni`	`2 of my mods already had an error during update`
`23:03.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, anyway, what I was trying to say was that none of the "alternatives" had any major (msbt) or even minor (parrot) exposure to the "general addon using public" - whereas SCT was exceptionally well known and widespread, so much that blizzard integrated the functionality.`
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`23:05.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`the feeling for what "everyone does" seems to be severly influenced if you have any bit more to do with addons than just using them ^^`
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`23:08.38`	`CIA-12`	`03firelemming * r61535 10RuinBossTactics_SSC/ssc.lua:`
`23:08.38`	`CIA-12`	`RuinBossTactics_SSC:`
`23:08.38`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:09.58`	`Antiarc`	`Okay`
`23:10.09`	`Antiarc`	`Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm is hard as hell on expert`
`23:13.15`	`CIA-12`	`03adirelle * r61536 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: fix try at new combat log analysis.`
`23:13.35`	`CIA-12`	`03adirelle * r61537 10MinimapTarget/MinimapTarget.toc: MinimapTarget: ready for 2.4.`
`23:14.15`	`NeoTron`	`Firelemming: for ppl too lazy to go to Bosskillers? :)`
`23:14.22`	`NeoTron`	`not saying it's a bad idea mind you...`
`23:15.11`	`Firelemming`	`well, not everybody like to Alt-tab to read a thing for a tactic, and this addon also allows raidleaders to put short tactics in the raidchannel`
`23:15.45`	`Chompers`	`ckk, does parrot let you throttle resists?`
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`23:15.57`	`ckknight`	`not sure, could be added`
`23:16.17`	`Chompers`	`my crits add a bleed to the mob, it makes karazhan pretty horrible`
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`23:16.20`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ`
`23:16.22`	`Chompers`	`as they're all undead`
`23:16.51`	`*** part/#wowace Baldor_work (n=vantienh@53575CD8.cable.casema.nl)`
`23:16.56`	`Dashkal`	`Chompers: At least that issue goes away on a couple-three months`
`23:16.56`	`ckknight`	`yea, I'm gonna start working on Parrot 2.0 soon`
`23:17.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`what`
`23:18.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`why is there a new parrot needed, won't you only need a new parserlib?`
`23:18.28`	`ckknight`	`sag_ich_nicht: true, but I also want to update the options to be better as well as support a better tag system`
`23:18.34`	`ckknight`	`so why not just use 2.4 as an excuse?`
`23:18.41`	`sb_`	`ckknight: ace3 framework? ;)`
`23:18.46`	`ckknight`	`sb_: no`
`23:18.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`sb_ why would ckknight write his own framework`
`23:18.59`	`ckknight`	`I'll build it off of what already exists`
`23:19.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and then use Ace3?`
`23:19.06`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~rock`
`23:19.07`	`purl`	`i guess rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out`
`23:19.25`	`ckknight`	`Ace3 is a great framework, I'm gonna say`
`23:19.26`	`nevcairiel`	`I would really recommend not using any parserlib with 2.4 .. you already get the events in perfect order ..^^`
`23:19.36`	`ckknight`	`it's just not for me`
`23:19.40`	`mykx`	`one thing if you do decide to revamp parrot. leave the default I love it :p`
`23:20.11`	`ckknight`	`mykx: well, the default pretty much won't change, it'll just get new features and hopefully some optimizations`
`23:20.22`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`ckknight better have the settings copied from current parrott`
`23:20.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`-t`
`23:20.24`	`mykx`	`sounds good`
`23:20.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`D:`
`23:20.44`	`ckknight`	`well, tags might break`
`23:20.47`	`ckknight`	`but that's it`
`23:20.53`	`ckknight`	`and I'll try to make em _not_ break`
`23:21.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not using tags much`
`23:21.02`	`mykx`	`I just like that it shows my aoe damage all together and my partial resists and whatnot heh`
`23:21.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd just like to keep my scroll areas as they are`
`23:21.13`	`ckknight`	`mykx: right, all that's staying`
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`23:21.31`	`ckknight`	`I want to be able to throttle absolutely any event, for one`
`23:21.40`	`ckknight`	`so that issues like Chompers' won't exist anymore`
`23:21.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`what issue?`
`23:21.56`	`Chompers`	`sweet`
`23:22.09`	`ckknight`	`sag_ich_nicht: he wants to throttle resists`
`23:22.11`	`mykx`	`I believe he said he's being spammed with resists or something ?`
`23:22.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`oic`
`23:22.38`	`ckknight`	`also contemplating auto-throttling of everything...`
`23:22.45`	`ckknight`	`or at least the option to`
`23:23.08`	`mykx`	`I actually like my screen being somewhat spammed with 18k seed of corruption in hyjal :)`
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`23:29.16`	`CIA-12`	`03nevcairiel * r61538 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: fix lifebloom stack tracking`
`23:30.02`	`Killmore`	`Antiarc?`
`23:30.36`	`CIA-12`	`03wobin * r61539 10Xparky/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Xparky - Inital commit`
`23:30.47`	`ckknight`	`Xparky?`
`23:30.58`	`nevcairiel`	`he still uses that name`
`23:31.00`	`nevcairiel`	`oh noes`
`23:31.14`	`Wobin`	`Well give me a better one than seXPerience`
`23:31.19`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61540 10PiraPlex/ (10 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:31.19`	`CIA-12`	`PiraPlex :- initial commit`
`23:31.19`	`CIA-12`	`- The PiraMod AddOn Manager. Allows enabling/disabling of mods in-game with reload required to activate changes.`
`23:31.19`	`CIA-12`	`03firelemming * r61541 10RuinBossTactics/RuinBossTactics.lua:`
`23:31.19`	`CIA-12`	`RuinBossTactics:`
`23:31.20`	`CIA-12`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:31.25`	`ckknight`	`Sexlexia?`
`23:31.37`	`nevcairiel`	`has to contain experience somehow =P`
`23:31.40`	`Wobin`	`No sex plz, I'd like to keep it PG-13`
`23:36.21`	`CIA-12`	`03piranther * r61542 10PiraPlex/: PiraPlex :- Set externals and logtemplate`
`23:38.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's what she said Wobin!`
`23:39.14`	`Wobin`	`took you a little while to get that one out =P`
`23:40.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Wobin: because i was ingame`
`23:40.42`	`Wobin`	`You need to be faster on the entendre`
`23:40.53`	`Wobin`	`but then again, I've heard you are a bit -too- fast at times =\`
`23:41.01`	`Wobin`	`(Or at least that's what your mother said)`
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`23:46.35`	`Chambrln`	`Wobin: you were doing well until you used a mother joke`
`23:46.56`	`Wobin`	`I figured I'd get it in before sag did`
`23:47.01`	`Chambrln`	`:p`
`23:49.26`	Funkeh`	`Antiarc, http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11304/`
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`23:50.48`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks`
`23:53.14`	`Ordog`	`is there a way to prevent ratingbuster from adding the sums to the equipped item tooltips?`
`23:53.24`	`Ordog`	`since they are always +0 ...`
`23:53.40`	`Ordog`	`or maybe just never show +0 sums ?`
`23:55.15`	`Ordog`	`exept from hacking another if in there`
`23:55.30`	`ccKep`	`http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr/24/vashj-essence.jpg woot ^.^`
`23:57.04`	`_rane`	`how can anyone play a game with language like that`
`23:57.24`	`Ordog`	`germans do ...`
`23:57.25`	`ccKep`	`switched to enGB too, I _hate_ german localization`
`23:57.46`	`Ordog`	`never even took the cds from the package`
`23:57.52`	`Ordog`	`directly updated from the beta ;P`
`23:57.58`	`Chompers`	`i've got 3 item levels on my items, anyone had this before?`
`23:58.00`	`ccKep`	`but now we have to 1) _continue_ farming stupid hyjal 2) go back to farming vashj+kael when sunwell releases ^.^`
`23:58.01`	`Ordog`	`oh im german too ...`
`23:58.20`	`SunTsu`	`I keep it for interoperability, it's kind of hard to talk to other players if you don't know the terms they use`
`23:58.47`	`Josh_Borke`	`ah, cool`
`23:58.47`	`SunTsu`	`So I stick to deDE`
`23:58.48`	`Ordog`	`thats where crafted links come handy :)`
`23:59.45`	`Ordog`	`doesnt it suck having to guess the translation before searching on wowhead etc ?`

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