IRC log for #wowace on 20080213

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`00:04.05`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61098 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: bugfix concatenating`
`00:05.40`	`Arrowmaster`	Funkeh`: is the transcriptor for 2.4 still in branches?
`00:05.53`	Funkeh`	`no its trunk`
`00:05.55`	Funkeh`	`just wait for that update to hit`
`00:06.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok ill change my svn checkout back`
`00:06.39`	`Daemona`	`look at http://ace.pastey.net/82106 perhaps ;)`
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`00:06.51`	`Daemona`	uuh Funkeh` fixed that already
`00:07.06`	Funkeh`	`ofc`
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`00:09.52`	`NivFreak`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thoridal2.jpg`
`00:09.57`	`NivFreak`	`clearly a tanking weapon`
`00:10.01`	`NivFreak`	`NEED`
`00:10.04`	`dylanm`	`Fuck that's cool.`
`00:11.33`	`Daemona`	`can you say hunter item ?`
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`00:12.43`	`NivFreak`	`tanking weapon`
`00:12.45`	`NivFreak`	`clearly`
`00:12.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`rogue weapon, imo.`
`00:13.05`	`NivFreak`	`might go well with the stranglestaff on my priest too`
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`00:13.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`heh, one of our warriors picked up wildfury greatstaff last night`
`00:13.45`	`Diao`	`sigh`
`00:13.57`	`Diao`	`wtb well geared druid on blackrock horde to play 2s with :(`
`00:13.59`	`NivFreak`	`I love to loot druid weapons when no one needs them`
`00:14.21`	`NivFreak`	`I put demon slaying on the stranglestaff`
`00:14.25`	`NivFreak`	`it gets me some funny responses`
`00:14.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`our OT has a paladin set`
`00:14.29`	`NivFreak`	`hah`
`00:14.31`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`good call, i still say unholy would be better though`
`00:14.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`he wears it in shatt`
`00:14.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`one of our mages has a kings defender, i think she might even have mongoose on it`
`00:14.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`tauren paladin`
`00:15.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`im talking blacktemple/hyjal paladin gear`
`00:16.33`	`NivFreak`	`NightHawkTheSane: I had the mats laying around for demonslaying`
`00:16.40`	`NivFreak`	`I should put executioner on it`
`00:16.40`	`CIA-8`	`03pettigrow * r61099 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: frFR Update`
`00:16.51`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NivFreak: now that'd be hott`
`00:17.11`	`NivFreak`	`now that voids have a value agian`
`00:17.14`	`NivFreak`	`it's hard to do it :)`
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`00:19.13`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`sup`
`00:19.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: UNIT_PET doesnt fire when you gain/lose guardians does it?`
`00:19.18`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`im in a little hurry`
`00:19.24`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: I'm not sure.`
`00:19.33`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`im searching for an auction addon`
`00:19.38`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`a simple one would be nice`
`00:20.33`	`Stanzilla`	`Shattrath Flasks now work inside the Sunwell Plateau raid instance. < win`
`00:20.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: also i just thought of something that might have a major effect on warlock pet threat, when you summon an eye of kilrogg it becomes your pet and your normal pet respawns when the eye is gone`
`00:20.53`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, fun.`
`00:20.55`	`keiss`	`Stanzilla: any idea if the illidari marks drop in sunwell aswell ?`
`00:21.00`	`Antiarc`	`I -think- that should be handled but we'll find out`
`00:21.02`	`Stanzilla`	`nope :(`
`00:21.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: im trying to cleanup the stuff you added to guidreg for pet`
`00:21.24`	`Stanzilla`	`(I have no idea if the will)`
`00:21.28`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`o� would smbdy pls help me? o.o as i said, sorry for beeing a little short-worded but im in a hurry`
`00:21.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: also im gona drop the LibGUIDRegistry_ from the events is that cool?`
`00:21.54`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: Fine with me`
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`00:21.59`	`dylanm`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK: "Auction addon" is a bit vague. The most popular one is Auctioneer but you've probably heard of that.`
`00:22.12`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`i did use auctioneer`
`00:22.16`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61100 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Sunwell: add sunwellbeta`
`00:22.16`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`but i think it sucks <_<`
`00:22.35`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`well, k thx`
`00:22.45`	`dylanm`	`I use a little deal called Baud Auction that doesn't really do much for you but makes the search much nicer.`
`00:23.01`	`dylanm`	`What's Kaelten's one... KC_Items or something? Some people like that one.`
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`00:23.18`	`Wobin`	`auc advanced is pretty good`
`00:23.32`	`Antiarc`	`I'm thinking I might get rid of global threat all together`
`00:23.35`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`<_< why tf did they change auctioneer`
`00:23.41`	`Antiarc`	`And just try to keep track of it on a per-mob basis`
`00:24.12`	`Antiarc`	`The only place I could see that miscalculating would be when you enter combat and drop a heal before the mobs perform any combat events`
`00:24.26`	`Wobin`	`which can happen`
`00:24.34`	`Antiarc`	`Question is, will it really be relevant?`
`00:24.46`	`Antiarc`	`I mean, will that one heal be enough to make threat values significantly off?`
`00:24.54`	`Antiarc`	`It would solve all kinds of problems to do it that way`
`00:25.00`	`Antiarc`	`And actually, I know how to get around that, I think`
`00:25.08`	`Wobin`	`Will it be enough to make people complain about accuracy?`
`00:25.10`	`Kaelten`	`does entering combat not fire anyway?`
`00:25.16`	`Antiarc`	`Just track global threat and add it to any new mobs discovered within 5 seconds of entering combat.`
`00:25.28`	`Antiarc`	`Kaelten: You don't get a combat log message when a mob enters combat, no`
`00:25.35`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`00:25.36`	`Kaelten`	`kk`
`00:25.39`	`CIA-8`	`03ckknight * r61101 10PitBull/PitBull.lua:`
`00:25.39`	`CIA-8`	`PitBull - fix issue with config mode switching and clusters being destroyed for seemingly no reason`
`00:25.39`	`CIA-8`	`P.S. I'm not wearing any pants`
`00:25.43`	`Antiarc`	`rofl`
`00:25.50`	`Kaelten`	`wtf`
`00:25.52`	`Stanzilla`	`lol`
`00:26.34`	`thul`	`lion?`
`00:26.41`	`Wobin`	`jesus christ, get in the car?`
`00:26.54`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hmm, we're getting extended maintenance, is can be patch tiems nao plees?`
`00:27.00`	`Wobin`	`Pkekyo\|: ahaaha`
`00:27.33`	`Pkekyo\|`	`no? :<`
`00:27.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`thats too dumb to warrant a response`
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`00:28.24`	`Pkekyo\|`	`go sodomize yourself with a floorlamp NightHawkTheSane`
`00:29.01`	`kaiden`	`wow.. lol`
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`00:31.52`	`Antiarc`	`•Shattrath Flasks now work inside the Sunwell Plateau raid instance.`
`00:32.46`	`kebinusan`	`now if only they would add a shatt flask of pure death`
`00:32.52`	`Antiarc`	`http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2049/wowscrnshot021008053735ax2.jpg`
`00:32.56`	`Antiarc`	`Check the chat log`
`00:33.26`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`00:33.30`	`Antiarc`	`rofl`
`00:33.37`	`Antiarc`	`I like how they're running Omen in that screenshot`
`00:33.37`	`kebinusan`	`whats the <PH> after the stuff he says`
`00:33.40`	`Antiarc`	`HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU`
`00:33.43`	`Antiarc`	`Placeholder`
`00:34.18`	`Killmore2`	`its not me`
`00:34.25`	`Antiarc`	`Heheh, I was wondering`
`00:34.27`	`Antiarc`	`But you're a priest`
`00:36.36`	`thul`	`COLONEL NOT SO OBVIOUS`
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`00:43.55`	`NeoTron`	`so I take it the PTR doesn't have free flasks?`
`00:44.01`	`NeoTron`	`like they did for naxx/BT?`
`00:44.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`does anybody know if the Unit*("Name") trick work for pets?`
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`00:44.49`	`Killmore2`	`NeoTron: GM can spawn a guy called "Flaskataur" in sunwell`
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`00:45.14`	`Killmore2`	`they didnt spawn him for us last night on kalec :(`
`00:47.15`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: when threat resets aggro in (noticed on Illidan) it seems like the TPS calculations break`
`00:47.21`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: tank generating -1900 TPS etc`
`00:47.30`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: yeah, I know about that one`
`00:47.45`	`Antiarc`	`I'm not digging too much into it since Threat-1.0 is an artifact in a couple of months`
`00:48.28`	`NeoTron`	`I'd assume it's just a table used for the calculations that's not reset`
`00:48.39`	`NeoTron`	`but I haven't checked the data structures`
`00:48.48`	`NeoTron`	`Killmore2: should be permanent`
`00:48.54`	`NeoTron`	`it's dumb having to farm for flasks on the PTR :P`
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`00:51.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`Antiarc: api detail, RaidTargetGUIDSet currently has raidtarget (num) and GUID as args when fired, im thinking about changing the raidtarget stuff to be strings instead of numbers`
`00:52.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`thoughts?`
`00:52.41`	`Pkekyo\|`	`wth, as a fresh lvl 70 I push 1k dps in heroic shattered halls O.o`
`00:53.10`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: Just stringify the number?`
`00:53.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`well instead of storing as unit[num] i was wanting to do unit.raidtargetX`
`00:53.52`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: What class is it?`
`00:53.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`to simplify another part`
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`00:54.08`	`Antiarc`	`Sounds good to me`
`00:54.15`	`Antiarc`	`That seemed a little clunky when I looked at it`
`00:54.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`but i think sending a num is better for the event`
`00:54.47`	`Antiarc`	`why not send the num and a longer string?`
`00:54.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`so i think ill do some trickery with concat and tonumber`
`00:54.51`	`Antiarc`	`So you have both`
`00:54.56`	`NeoTron`	`Pkekyo\|: surely you must be talking AoE?`
`00:54.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok`
`00:55.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`mage, not AoE damage, single target`
`00:55.32`	`NivFreak`	`Pheredhel: uh, how much +dmg?`
`00:55.44`	`SunTsu`	`Pkekyo\|: Doesn't sound that odd to me`
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`00:55.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`it does to me :p`
`00:56.41`	`SunTsu`	`I remember doing that PvE arena quest on my way to 70 and the mages back then partly had 5k crits`
`00:56.58`	`NeoTron`	`ok, so gear now and also more importantly perhaps, group makeup?`
`00:57.14`	`NivFreak`	`a fresh 70 mage doing 1K DPS sounds odd to me :P`
`00:57.29`	`NeoTron`	`yeah`
`00:57.39`	`NeoTron`	`we've had raid-mages (early on mind you) do less than that`
`00:57.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NeoTron: gear:`
`00:57.56`	`NeoTron`	`although on trash - bursty DPS - it's definitely possible`
`00:58.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`!c eu bloodfeather thaladon`
`00:58.03`	`ThraeBot`	`Pkekyo\|: Thaladon, Level 70 Blood Elf Mage (2/0/59). 5393 HP; 7121 Mana; 164 mana regen; 6 mp5; 256 spell crit; 16 spell hit; 381 +spell dmg/heal; 4.30% dodge;[[ TBR: 591 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuymmf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wdqsm ][ Updated: Tue Feb 12 20:07:07 2008 EST ]]`
`00:58.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`group: two mages, hunter, shammy, warr`
`00:58.42`	`NeoTron`	`59 frost? wtf? :P`
`00:58.53`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what? :<`
`00:58.56`	`NeoTron`	`and yeah that sounds highly unlikely`
`00:59.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`wts 10/0/51`
`00:59.19`	`Pkekyo\|`	`the other mage is alot better geared than me, but a tool that uses his water elemental as main DPS source :p`
`00:59.29`	`Pkekyo\|`	`10/0/51? for what`
`00:59.30`	`Pkekyo\|`	`?`
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`01:00.47`	`NivFreak`	`so, I saw a video somewhere of an actionbar that expanded the button when you used the ability on it`
`01:00.54`	`NivFreak`	`that's not a bartender feature is it?`
`01:02.09`	`Pkekyo\|`	`'expanded the button' ?`
`01:02.14`	`keiss`	`i think bongos does that ?`
`01:02.27`	`Pkekyo\|`	`and yeah, it was a spike, I'm only pushing 900 steady now`
`01:02.46`	`NeoTron`	`900 DPS in that level of gear sounds unlikely`
`01:02.59`	`Pkekyo\|`	`yeah, it seems ridiculous to me too`
`01:03.28`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I'm blaming it on frostbite as of now`
`01:04.18`	`NivFreak`	`Pkekyo\|: it just makes it "pop" out of the ba`
`01:04.19`	`NivFreak`	`r`
`01:04.25`	`NivFreak`	`makes it really visable that it activated`
`01:04.58`	`keiss`	`NivFreak: i think i remember bongos having that , but not 100% sure`
`01:05.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NivFreak: buffs, in other word?`
`01:05.49`	`NivFreak`	`Pkekyo\|: no`
`01:05.53`	`NivFreak`	`any ability`
`01:05.56`	`NivFreak`	`so when I shield slam`
`01:05.59`	`NivFreak`	`the button would expand`
`01:06.01`	`SunTsu`	`Just for visual feedback?`
`01:06.03`	`NivFreak`	`yes`
`01:06.22`	`NivFreak`	`since the new GCD changes, I find it difficult to make sure I don't bounce abilities off the GCD`
`01:06.37`	`NivFreak`	`I manage, but I'd like better visual feedback`
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`01:13.17`	`NivFreak`	`keiss: I'm not a big fan of bongos`
`01:13.27`	`NivFreak`	`so I was hoping something else did :)`
`01:13.38`	`keiss`	`NivFreak: neither am i ;)`
`01:13.59`	`NivFreak`	`I used it before bartender3 and I had a lot of issues with bugs`
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`01:14.11`	`NivFreak`	`I never really went back once I switched`
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`01:15.25`	`CIA-8`	`03parnic * r61102 10IceHUD/modules/PlayerHealth.lua:`
`01:15.25`	`CIA-8`	`IceHUD:`
`01:15.25`	`CIA-8`	`- added code to resize the clickable region based on the texture the player is using (the previous region didn't fit HiBar very well)`
`01:16.05`	`Kaelten`	`NivFreak: check with nevcairiel about adding it into bartender4`
`01:16.12`	`Kaelten`	`he's working on it from what I've seen`
`01:16.24`	`NivFreak`	`nevcairiel: add that to bartender4 please :)`
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`01:18.55`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61103 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: 2nd arg should be event now, wasn't before? on eu anyway...`
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`01:42.27`	`CIA-8`	`03parnic * r61104 10IceHUD/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`01:42.27`	`CIA-8`	`IceHUD:`
`01:42.27`	`CIA-8`	`- set all bars to animate by default`
`01:42.27`	`CIA-8`	`- forced animation off for cast and mirror bars`
`01:42.27`	`CIA-8`	`- made a change to the toc for a curse/wowinterface update`
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`01:43.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`night`
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`01:43.47`	`Wobin`	`Ellipsis: You there?`
`01:43.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'nite lads and lasses`
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`01:49.29`	`Miyari`	`http://www.nordrassil.org/pitbull.jpg :(`
`01:50.25`	`keiss`	`whats wrong there ?`
`01:50.48`	`Miyari`	`it's clipping the bar off on the left side for no apparent reason`
`01:51.07`	`Miyari`	`when it's only supposed to be deducting from right as the health is missing`
`01:51.22`	`CIA-8`	`03arrowmaster * r61105 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ (LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.toc):`
`01:51.22`	`CIA-8`	`LibGUIDRegistry-0.1:`
`01:51.22`	`CIA-8`	`-Callback names and args have changed`
`01:51.22`	`CIA-8`	`-Made optimizations to existing features`
`01:51.22`	`CIA-8`	`-I hope nothing breaks`
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`01:51.37`	`Miyari`	`so it keeps flashing obnoxiously`
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`01:54.57`	`CIA-8`	`03keiss * r61106 10Manasurge/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
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`02:04.12`	`chiper`	`damn, no sylvanar`
`02:04.38`	`chiper`	`anybody else around that can help me make an addon Prat compatible?`
`02:05.36`	`Poul\|Raider`	`was it posible to find the owner of a pet based on the guid or flag, with the txtlog.txt`
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`02:07.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm i just thought of something that im deffently going to need somebody to help me test on ptr`
`02:08.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`Unstable Affliction and Seed of Corruption have both dot damage and direct damage, i wonder if the same spellid is used for both damage events`
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`02:12.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrowmaster: why would it have the same spellid? o_0`
`02:12.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`im thinking and hoping they wont`
`02:13.02`	`Kaelten`	`they could though :(`
`02:13.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`so i can track SoC dot damage and SoC explosion damage using 2 different spellids`
`02:13.07`	`Kaelten`	`Antiarc: you know?`
`02:13.17`	`Antiarc`	`I very strongly suspect it is a different spell ID`
`02:13.27`	`Antiarc`	`In fact I'll almost guarantee they are different`
`02:14.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`now to get some combatlogs of siphon life and drain life to fix my issues with those in topscorefu if i get around to updating it`
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`02:15.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`issue being it always saves the healing done by them as damage done`
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`02:16.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`DIE YOU FUCKING MOVING COMBATLOG!`
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`02:30.59`	`Ellipsis`	`Wobin: I am now, what's up?`
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`02:33.42`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61107 10BasicMinimap/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): BasicMinimap: fix CallbackHandler-1.0 missing external`
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`02:36.14`	`Antiarc`	`Does Symbol of Hope regenerate mana for the priest that cast it, or only the party?`
`02:36.23`	`keiss`	`whole party`
`02:36.31`	`Antiarc`	`Hrm. I'm not getting combat log entries for it.`
`02:36.40`	`Antiarc`	`Which is good, I guess, since it doesn't mean threat`
`02:36.48`	`Antiarc`	`But bad because now I have no way to test freakin' mana gains >_<`
`02:36.50`	`keiss`	`in 2.3 at least ... iam still waiting for transfer to PTR`
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`02:41.40`	`Wobin`	`Ellipsis: ah was going to get you to get ckk to use batrick's shell and irssi`
`02:41.47`	`Wobin`	`and maybe you too =P`
`02:42.26`	`Ellipsis`	`heh`
`02:42.33`	`Ellipsis`	`he will`
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`02:47.16`	`kagaro`	`Keias: it still does on the ptr`
`02:47.38`	`Keias`	`tab-fail`
`02:47.39`	`Keias`	`imo`
`02:47.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`get a more unique name, imo ;)`
`02:48.07`	`Keias`	`I blame the other guy`
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`02:56.51`	`chiper`	`ok, I seem to be doing something wrong`
`02:56.58`	`chiper`	`trying to make a prat module`
`02:57.49`	`chiper`	`downloaded the blank module template and made the necessary alterations, and loaded up WoW to see if it showed up in Prat. it isnt`
`02:58.37`	`chiper`	`WoW does see it, the addon shows in the list, and I'm not getting any errors. so I'm lost as to wtf I'm doing wrong`
`02:59.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`just guessing, but did you register the module with prat?`
`02:59.34`	`chiper`	`I dunno, I assumed that was in the template`
`03:00.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`not 100% sure how prat handles modules but you could check how/if the other modules are registered`
`03:00.51`	`[dRaCo]`	`maybe an entry in the .toc or w/e`
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`03:01.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`and check the readme if it says something about registering the module`
`03:02.33`	`chiper`	`this is only my second addon, so I'm a little green at all this`
`03:02.53`	`[dRaCo]`	`I only wrote one and never released it, so... ;)`
`03:03.16`	`chiper`	`heh`
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`03:06.24`	`chiper`	`bah, screw it, I'll work on this when sylvaan is on`
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`03:07.21`	`CIA-8`	`03rabbit * r61108 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Bugfix.`
`03:07.58`	`Lukian`	`http://www.wowblues.com/us/upcoming-24-ptr-changes-4493775395.html`
`03:08.04`	`Lukian`	`Based on feedback from the players there will be some changes in future PTR builds.`
`03:08.04`	`Lukian`	`• Shattrath Flasks now work inside the Sunwell Plateau raid instance.`
`03:08.04`	`Lukian`	`• Reputation requirement for Caverns of Time teleport reduced to Revered.`
`03:08.41`	`chiper`	`lol, it was exalted before?`
`03:08.51`	`[dRaCo]`	`they should put the attunement quests back in instead of that :/`
`03:09.28`	`chiper`	`fuck that, I might actually get to see that content with the reqs removed`
`03:09.32`	`Lukian`	`chiper, yes it was exalted`
`03:09.44`	`[dRaCo]`	`you wont stand a chance anyway`
`03:10.14`	`[dRaCo]`	`any t6 boss will screw you with your pants on if you haven't downed kael'thas or at least vashj`
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`03:11.35`	`chiper`	`but at least now we can try`
`03:12.28`	`chiper`	`hmm, can ace2 and ace3 run at the same time? does ace3 support ace2 addons?`
`03:12.43`	`JoshBorke`	`yes. no.`
`03:13.00`	`chiper`	`k`
`03:13.06`	`Antiarc`	`Okay, yeah, Symbol of Hope is just a mini-innervate, not a Mana Tide`
`03:13.33`	`keiss`	`Antiarc: well its not stats dependent it give u a fixed amount each tick`
`03:13.56`	`kenlyric`	`yes`
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`03:25.02`	`xyu`	`ugh i keep getting disconnected right on connect.`
`03:25.17`	`xyu`	`i even was removed from the raid`
`03:25.32`	`keiss`	`disable all your addons and try again`
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`03:26.09`	`Diao`	`wait what Antiarc it's a mini-innervate?`
`03:26.22`	`Diao`	`i thought it was a flat amount of mp5`
`03:26.35`	`keiss`	`its 3 x 333 mana @lvl70`
`03:26.56`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahaha`
`03:27.02`	`Antiarc`	`100 mp/5 at level 10`
`03:27.05`	`Antiarc`	`With no green gear`
`03:27.26`	`Diao`	`gear affects SoH?`
`03:27.31`	`Diao`	`o_o`
`03:27.42`	`Diao`	`or you mean that's on your character sheet with SoH casted :p`
`03:28.49`	`kagaro`	`The Lurker Below Crits you for 24499`
`03:30.36`	`xyu`	`i can log in w/o addons enabled`
`03:30.43`	`xyu`	`but as soon as i enable them agian, i freeze on login :(`
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`03:50.36`	`Wobin`	`xyu: I was doing that too`
`03:50.42`	`Wobin`	`but it was to do with REcount resetting`
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`03:50.49`	`Wobin`	`rebooting, brb`
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`03:57.10`	`CIA-8`	`03next96 * r61109 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:`
`03:57.10`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2: Zone:`
`03:57.10`	`CIA-8`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`03:58.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you know.. when you stop to think about it, wow npcs are really really freaky, and really shallow`
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`03:58.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`They don't care if you're male or female, only that you're wearing the right scent`
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`03:59.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`And if you're sad and heartbroken, they want nothing to do with you. only if you're happy.`
`03:59.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`What kind of message is blizzard sending here?`
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`04:00.10`	`Antiarc`	`If you want to get laid, smell nice, smile, and find a slut.`
`04:00.20`	`Antiarc`	`There you go!`
`04:01.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`haha`
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`04:05.07`	`CIA-8`	`03next96 * r61110 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`04:05.07`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2: Boss:`
`04:05.07`	`CIA-8`	`- Update locale koKR`
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`04:08.24`	`xlvii`	`can anyone recommend an alternative to notepad? just something simple, i don't need a lot of features. lua syntax hilighting would be nice.`
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`04:09.25`	`Wobin`	`vim =)`
`04:10.15`	`Xinhuan`	`Notepad++`
`04:11.06`	`Gngsk`	`xlvii, scite-wowi`
`04:11.30`	`Antiarc`	`notepad++ is easy.`
`04:11.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`bbedit nod`
`04:11.49`	`Gngsk`	`scite is very easy, has lua syntax highliting and code folding. the wowi version even has support for some wow api`
`04:12.05`	`Xinhuan`	`i think all the above supports code folding`
`04:12.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I found scite very annoying..`
`04:12.24`	`Gngsk`	`k, never used notepad++`
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`04:15.44`	`HeatheKyle`	`Hello.`
`04:18.38`	`HeatheKyle`	`is anyone available to answer a n00b question about Pitbull?`
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`04:21.50`	`xyu`	`Woot RoS down!!`
`04:21.58`	`xyu`	`4th attempt`
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`04:22.57`	`HeatheKyle`	`hello`
`04:23.05`	`phalse`	`anyone know what the hells going on with pitbull? its throwing tons of errors and won't allow any configuration`
`04:24.44`	`Xinhuan`	`try updating Pitbull.`
`04:25.42`	`Lukian`	`Xinhuan, nooo! Pitbill will rip ur fase off!`
`04:26.34`	`HeatheKyle`	`can anyone see me?`
`04:26.43`	Funkeh`	`no`
`04:26.47`	`HeatheKyle`	`=)`
`04:26.58`	`HeatheKyle`	`sorry, I'm new to IRC.`
`04:27.08`	Funkeh`	`alright`
`04:27.11`	`HeatheKyle`	`can anyone help me with a pitbull question?`
`04:27.19`	Funkeh`	`~asktoask`
`04:27.20`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`04:27.45`	`HeatheKyle`	`I've about got everything figured out. However, is there a way to adjust the width of the frames?`
`04:28.01`	`HeatheKyle`	`or maybe adjust it by scale?`
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`04:28.31`	Funkeh`	`I'm no pitbull user but i think you can`
`04:28.44`	Funkeh`	`or at least i remember doing so a very long time ago`
`04:29.23`	`buu`	`HeatheKyle: Under one of the 'extra' options for each frameset there is a 'size' option that has width and size and stuff.`
`04:29.38`	`chiper`	`wheres a good place to farm greens for disenchanting into arcane dust?`
`04:29.49`	`chiper`	`I'm assuming hellfire, but any parts in particular?`
`04:29.50`	`buu`	`the auction house`
`04:30.26`	`chiper`	`the idea is to make money, not spend it`
`04:30.43`	`buu`	`Farm scyer/aldor items.`
`04:31.08`	`HeatheKyle`	`found it, thank you`
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`04:31.21`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r61111 10FuBar_RoutesFu/ (FuBar_RoutesFu.toc RoutesFu.lua): FuBar_RoutesFu: Update this plugin to work with both Routes and Cartographer_Routes. If both are present, Routes takes priority.`
`04:32.02`	`elusif`	`i hate weekly maintenance :(`
`04:32.21`	`Xinhuan`	`hoho, i got a sweet revision number there 61111`
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`04:33.33`	`Olison`	`"If both are present, Routes takes priority" wins :D`
`04:34.34`	`Xinhuan`	`it was an oversight on the naming of the addon ;p`
`04:34.42`	`Xinhuan`	`Cartographer_Routes --> Routes`
`04:34.43`	`keiss`	`Xinhuan: you were waiting for it whole day ? :)`
`04:34.47`	`Xinhuan`	`but FuBar_RoutesFu`
`04:34.54`	`Xinhuan`	`nah, was chance`
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`05:00.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xinhuan: so how's that trajectory mod coming. ;)`
`05:00.37`	`Xinhuan`	`never wrote it yet`
`05:02.29`	`Olison`	`that what? what was it supposed to do?`
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`05:04.49`	`elusif`	`i am lost in a sea of ui mods :(`
`05:04.56`	`elusif`	`what's a good start?`
`05:05.05`	`elusif`	`i want the ui smaller and tidier and the buttons smaller`
`05:05.12`	`elusif`	`would be nice if i could add icons to buttons`
`05:05.59`	`chiper`	`well for start turn down the UI scale in video settings`
`05:06.57`	`chiper`	`if you want custom button bars, check out TrinityBars2, Bartender, or Bongos.`
`05:07.03`	`chiper`	`I recommend trinity personally`
`05:07.36`	`elusif`	`k ty`
`05:07.46`	`chiper`	`beyond that, just start looking at UIs and see what you like`
`05:07.56`	`elusif`	`there are so many`
`05:07.56`	`Keias`	`check out some of those`
`05:08.02`	`Keias`	`"Post your UI" topics on all the forums`
`05:08.07`	`Keias`	`Get some ideas from those`
`05:08.09`	`chiper`	`I dont mean UI packages`
`05:08.12`	`elusif`	`ya i am on wowhead`
`05:08.24`	`chiper`	`I mean look at screenshots for elements you like and we can usually tell you what mod it is`
`05:08.31`	`Keias`	`the official UI and Macros forums normally has good examples too`
`05:08.39`	`dylanm`	`The answer is almost always "Pitbull".`
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`05:09.14`	`chiper`	`lol, not always`
`05:09.19`	`Xinhuan`	`not really, there's a 2 or 3 page debate on pitbull vs xperl on the forums ;p`
`05:09.48`	`chiper`	`I eventually switched to pitbull, but x-perl and perl classic are much more user friendly`
`05:10.34`	`dylanm`	`Xinhuan: Yeah, understood. It's just that it's the most obvious one that people ask about time and time again.`
`05:10.39`	`Miyari`	`i went xperl -> aguf -> pitbull`
`05:11.07`	`Xinhuan`	`its almost a cult`
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`05:11.27`	`chiper`	`aguf doesnt let you do party or raid targets, so it looses my vote`
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`05:11.47`	`elusif`	`i dislike most of what i'm seeing`
`05:11.54`	`elusif`	`i want an apple mac looking ui :)`
`05:12.00`	`elusif`	`or a linux one`
`05:12.03`	`dylanm`	`THEN DOCK IS FOR YOU`
`05:12.08`	`Keias`	`lol`
`05:12.10`	`Miyari`	`lol`
`05:12.12`	`chiper`	`uhm, this is wow, not the desktop`
`05:12.14`	`elusif`	`lol`
`05:12.16`	`elusif`	`ya i know`
`05:12.21`	`elusif`	`but i mean the style`
`05:12.25`	`elusif`	`rounded edges`
`05:12.26`	`elusif`	`etc`
`05:12.31`	`Miyari`	`use eepanels`
`05:12.43`	`elusif`	`ty`
`05:12.51`	`Miyari`	`make everything bubbly and happy`
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`05:13.26`	`elusif`	`fucking weekly maintenance sux!#`
`05:13.37`	`chiper`	`getting into total interface changes like that is a more advanced modding area, you might be better just trying to get non-standard elements first`
`05:13.58`	`elusif`	`when you're on the bg and you check your main map you can see whose in combat because they blink`
`05:14.04`	`elusif`	`can you make that happen on your minimap?`
`05:14.44`	`chiper`	`sure you can change those things, but addon developers cant predict behaviors when you're altering the UI like that`
`05:14.59`	`chiper`	`it's one of the main reasons steve jobs vetoed ui alterations on the mac`
`05:15.03`	`elusif`	`it would be great for letting you know of inc horde`
`05:16.00`	`chiper`	`I dont think you can do it on the minimap, but cartographer will add it to the battle map`
`05:16.03`	`elusif`	`surely there are extensions you can get for mac os these days that alter the ui?`
`05:16.09`	`elusif`	`there were in system 7.5`
`05:16.17`	`elusif`	`ya i have it on the battlemap`
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`05:17.48`	`chiper`	`no, they designed the UI manager in osx to prevent people from being able to alter it`
`05:17.53`	`elusif`	`i see`
`05:18.10`	`Miyari`	`tsk`
`05:18.12`	`Miyari`	`all people would do`
`05:18.15`	`Miyari`	`is make it look like osx`
`05:18.18`	`Miyari`	`that's all people do on windows`
`05:18.22`	`Miyari`	`and there's simply no reason!`
`05:18.28`	`chiper`	`gone are the days of Theme Manager, Aaron, and Kaleidoscpe`
`05:19.07`	`chiper`	`where you could do full conversions of the interface, much like KDE and GNOME allow`
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`05:20.06`	`kenlyric`	`it's dumb, because since XP the skinning interface has been very robust on windows. You just have to sell your firstborn to the Registry to get at it.`
`05:22.13`	`elusif`	`ah aaron`
`05:22.15`	`elusif`	`i had that`
`05:22.23`	`elusif`	`cope land style windows`
`05:22.26`	`elusif`	`(copeland)`
`05:22.57`	`elusif`	`'hai i have system 7.5 but i can make meh folders slant at an angle ^^'`
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`05:24.28`	`chiper`	`it was more about the window look for me`
`05:24.45`	`chiper`	`7.5s windows were uuuuugly`
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`05:26.06`	`elusif`	`ya`
`05:26.09`	`elusif`	`'finder'`
`05:26.14`	`elusif`	`resedit`
`05:26.19`	`elusif`	`remember resedit?`
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`05:27.10`	`chiper`	`yeah, it would have been nice if they made an OSX resedit`
`05:27.23`	`chiper`	`since rscs files still exist in OSX`
`05:27.36`	`elusif`	`i nearly bought a mac instead of this pc a few months ago`
`05:27.55`	`chiper`	`what changed your mind?`
`05:28.02`	`elusif`	`but i was scarred as a child when i fell in love with macs and bought one only to discover - amagad i can't swap games with anyone!`
`05:28.21`	`chiper`	`you know the current macs can run windows, right?`
`05:28.25`	`elusif`	`ya`
`05:28.43`	`elusif`	`virtual windows and soft windows or whatever it is today`
`05:28.54`	`Xinhuan`	`"Anything can run windows, that's why windows is so good" :D`
`05:29.04`	`chiper`	`riiight`
`05:29.13`	`elusif`	`those royalty checks must be nice :)`
`05:29.15`	`chiper`	`elusif: uhh, no, I mean natively`
`05:29.31`	`chiper`	`the new macs are intel based, they can boot both OSes`
`05:29.42`	`elusif`	`cool`
`05:29.46`	`chiper`	`the function is built right into 10.5`
`05:29.48`	`Xinhuan`	`aren't really macs anymore if its intel based ;p`
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`05:30.07`	`chiper`	`sure they are`
`05:30.09`	`elusif`	`i've been saying i'm going to download and install unbuntu`
`05:30.13`	`elusif`	`for the last 6 months`
`05:30.36`	`chiper`	`that's like saying the old macs werent macs because they had motorola made processors`
`05:30.53`	`chiper`	`the brain may be made by intel, but the body is all Apple`
`05:31.01`	`chiper`	`including the entrails`
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`05:31.31`	`elusif`	`oh the body`
`05:31.35`	`elusif`	`swoon`
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`05:39.05`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61112 10BasicMinimap/ (BasicMinimap.toc Locales/deDE.lua): BasicMinimap: add deDE locale by Farook`
`05:41.57`	`CIA-8`	`03sayclub * r61113 10SimpleMD/Locale-koKR.lua:`
`05:41.58`	`CIA-8`	`SimpleMD:`
`05:41.58`	`CIA-8`	`- koKR Update`
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`05:51.52`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61114 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`05:51.52`	`CIA-8`	`BigWigs: Sunwell:`
`05:51.52`	`CIA-8`	`- add brutallus mod`
`05:51.52`	`CIA-8`	`- add kalecgos mod`
`05:51.52`	`CIA-8`	`- will clean it more when its not 5:50 am`
`05:52.12`	`Olison`	`:-D`
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`05:58.07`	Funkeh`	`sleeeeep`
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`06:00.49`	`Xinhuan`	`~logs`
`06:00.49`	`purl`	`it has been said that logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian \| lines that start with a space are not shown \| some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz`
`06:02.01`	`theoddone33`	`I lose to every mirror team when playing war/pally :(`
`06:04.03`	`aestil`	`freaking saving private ryan.`
`06:04.12`	`aestil`	`i'm tearing up in the first 45 minutes of it.`
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`06:15.01`	`aestil`	`did this movie win best picture?`
`06:15.04`	`aestil`	`wiki time`
`06:16.02`	`aestil`	`that beach landing is absurd. gorgeously frightening and gross and moving and brutal.`
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`06:18.28`	`mikma`	`aestil: lol if you don't like the first 45min, you won't like the rest of the movie either`
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`06:21.36`	`CIA-8`	`03whitetooth * r61115 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:`
`06:21.36`	`CIA-8`	`StatLogicLib:`
`06:21.36`	`CIA-8`	`- deDE update by tayedaen`
`06:22.23`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r61116 10IPopBar/IPopBar.lua: IPopBar: Add a status bar message to the AceConfigDialog window to say what action (if any) is unbound on binding a key.`
`06:23.20`	`aestil`	`i love the movie. those were suprlatives about the first 45 minutes. what other words would you use to describe that beach landing.`
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`06:24.18`	`aestil`	`anywhere up to, and including 1mile away from Adolf Hitler and this war is over.`
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`06:25.46`	`aestil`	`WTF, it lost best picture to shakespeare in love. thats such a piece of shit movie.`
`06:25.55`	`aestil`	`what a joke.`
`06:26.07`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r61117 10Routes/ (Bindings.xml Modules/Waypoints.lua):`
`06:26.07`	`CIA-8`	`Routes:`
`06:26.07`	`CIA-8`	`- Add 3 keybindings to Start/Stop/Change direction for Cartographer_Waypoints integration`
`06:26.07`	`CIA-8`	`- Add a status bar message to the AceConfigDialog window to say what action (if any) is unbound on binding a key.`
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`06:28.48`	`aestil`	`Xinhuan: is that close to being in trunk?`
`06:28.56`	`Xinhuan`	`what?`
`06:29.03`	`aestil`	`routes and the gather mod.`
`06:29.10`	`Xinhuan`	`that IS on trunk`
`06:29.15`	`aestil`	`whhaaa?`
`06:29.18`	`Xinhuan`	`and has been on trunk for a good 2 weeks`
`06:29.19`	`aestil`	`oh.`
`06:29.37`	`aestil`	`this is the ace3 standalone? or are we talkinga bout the carto plugin?`
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`06:30.22`	`Xinhuan`	`umm, that is Routes`
`06:30.44`	`Xinhuan`	`i have a module plugin that turns itself on if carto_waypoints is detected`
`06:30.53`	`Xinhuan`	`and i merely added 3 keybindings to it`
`06:31.03`	`aestil`	`so the gather mod?`
`06:31.12`	`Xinhuan`	`GatherMate?`
`06:31.25`	`Xinhuan`	`been on trunk also about 2 weeks`
`06:31.37`	`aestil`	`nice.`
`06:31.40`	`aestil`	`i've been working alot.`
`06:31.46`	`Xinhuan`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10992.0`
`06:31.48`	`Xinhuan`	`that's the Routes thread`
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`06:31.57`	`Xinhuan`	`on page 2, i gave a summary of Gathermate, etc`
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`06:32.46`	`aestil`	`it comes with known nodes?`
`06:32.57`	`CIA-8`	`03ckknight * r61118 10/trunk/ (10 files in 10 dirs): .LibRock-1.0 - don't use negative reversion numbers because the LibStub patch for supporting that was never accepted.`
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`06:36.50`	`aestil`	`wait, does gathermate work with carto for the map part? basically this is replacing cartographer_Prof right?`
`06:37.09`	`Xinhuan`	`correct`
`06:37.21`	`aestil`	`good.`
`06:37.23`	`aestil`	`i like it.`
`06:37.24`	`Xinhuan`	`GatherMate only replaces Carto_Professions, and _Mining/Herb/Gas/Treasure/Fish`
`06:37.26`	`Xinhuan`	`so that's 6 modules`
`06:37.29`	`aestil`	`nods`
`06:37.44`	`aestil`	`and routes replacis carto_routes.`
`06:37.44`	`Xinhuan`	`to get initial data`
`06:37.59`	`Xinhuan`	`you can either use GatherMate_Data (wowhead data)`
`06:38.00`	`aestil`	`will it automatically just import the data from carto?`
`06:38.03`	`Xinhuan`	`or GatherMate_CartImport`
`06:38.11`	`Xinhuan`	`both of these are separate accessories`
`06:38.13`	`aestil`	`wowhead data is just fine.`
`06:38.17`	`Xinhuan`	`you get one, both or none`
`06:38.27`	`Xinhuan`	`note that importing is not automatic`
`06:38.35`	`Xinhuan`	`you have to type /gathermate and click the import button`
`06:38.43`	`aestil`	`i love the clustering idea of routes, i've been asking for it for a long time. i think you told me it was improbable before.`
`06:38.53`	`Xinhuan`	`Cart_data fails by always overwriting your existing db`
`06:39.03`	`Xinhuan`	`so any new nodes you find always gets overwritten on next login`
`06:40.37`	`aestil`	`i run without externals. this will auto download dependecies for me?`
`06:40.59`	`Xinhuan`	`at the moment yes`
`06:41.13`	`Xinhuan`	`there is only 1 dpeendency: Ace3`
`06:41.19`	`aestil`	`kk.`
`06:41.26`	`Xinhuan`	`gathermate and routes does NOT use any babble libraries`
`06:41.32`	`Xinhuan`	`nor does it need to`
`06:42.07`	`aestil`	`but cartographer does, so i'm not sure i see the distinction?`
`06:42.20`	`aestil`	`if you don't use any map mod?`
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`06:43.10`	`Xinhuan`	`cartographer does yeah`
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`06:45.22`	`aestil`	`i wish WAU had a way to flag if there was a lib that none of your mods were using.`
`06:45.34`	`aestil`	`like, i don't think i need graph lib.`
`06:46.20`	`Orionshock`	`aestil: uninstall all your libs then update w/o externals`
`06:46.27`	`aestil`	`true.`
`06:47.01`	`aestil`	`techincally, since i have WAU open, i could just delete graph lib, and the force update everything and if it d/ls again i need it. right?`
`06:48.00`	`aestil`	`wtf is libhealcom and lib banzai? lib stub versions?`
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`06:48.25`	`aestil`	`lib druid mana and lib mobhealth?`
`06:48.34`	`aestil`	`the proflieration of libs since i've last updated is impressive :)`
`06:49.51`	`Tem`	`or depressing`
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`06:51.14`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61119 10AtlasLoot/ (10 files in 4 dirs):`
`06:51.14`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`06:51.14`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell update`
`06:51.20`	`aestil`	`Ellipsis: ping`
`06:51.26`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61120 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`06:51.26`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`06:51.26`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell update`
`06:52.25`	`sica`	`hm, why do I have a threat-bar on the player-frame in Pitbull but not on the target-frame? Does the player threat-bar display my threat against the target?`
`06:53.24`	`Xinhuan`	`obviously.`
`06:53.47`	`aestil`	`what else would it show? global threat?`
`06:53.50`	`Xinhuan`	`threat values are worthless unless you are comparing your threat versus something else (i.e your target)`
`06:53.51`	`sica`	`yep`
`06:53.54`	`aestil`	`how would that be useful information to display?`
`06:54.01`	`sica`	`good point`
`06:54.15`	`aestil`	`i mean, i guess you could show global threat, but it would seem to be mostly pointless.`
`06:54.26`	`sica`	`any way to display it on the target-frame?`
`06:54.36`	`Xinhuan`	`i could tell you you have 10000 threat, but this number would be meaningless without something else to compare it against -- the tank's threat on your current target`
`06:54.59`	`aestil`	`wow, lots of dog tag changes. will this break my custom cowtips?`
`06:55.08`	`Xinhuan`	`probably aestil`
`06:55.14`	`Xinhuan`	`most of which can be simplified`
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`06:55.19`	`aestil`	`was it worth it in the end?`
`06:55.23`	`Xinhuan`	`parsing got stricter`
`06:55.29`	`Xinhuan`	`and ck added about 10 or 20 new tags`
`06:55.44`	`aestil`	`i saw it looked like it will fix case automatically for me now?`
`06:55.46`	`Xinhuan`	`and even added a ingame faq thingy, as well as a "test mode"`
`06:55.59`	`aestil`	`whaaaa? he made it user friendlier?`
`06:56.21`	`aestil`	`most of these commits are new features or optimaizations of some kind.`
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`06:57.04`	`aestil`	`lol.. add [TrucEllipsis] modifer. ironic.`
`06:58.51`	`aestil`	`so, with these dog tag updates, you'd mess with dags in 'dogtag' can you 'export' the tags to cowtip or pitbull etc?`
`06:59.16`	`CIA-8`	`03anall * r61121 10BabyWigs/ (10 files in 2 dirs): BabyWigs: Bossmods for very low-level instances. (Yes, I was really really bored)`
`07:00.11`	`aestil`	`... pitbull metalayout system didn't just break my ui did it?`
`07:00.36`	`aestil`	`WTF vertical orientation?`
`07:01.02`	`aestil`	`jesus christ. its been only 2 weeks since i stopped playing and ace3 is in trunk, and freaking a billion other changes.`
`07:01.14`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`07:01.20`	`Orionshock`	`it's called beta for a reason :P`
`07:02.02`	`aestil`	`still.`
`07:02.15`	`aestil`	`i've been reading the changelogs for 10 minutes.`
`07:02.25`	`aestil`	`and i didn't even read the ace3 change logs since it was irrelevant to me.`
`07:03.08`	`aestil`	`too many updates on ckk's pants status atm.`
`07:04.02`	`aestil`	`i love how skillet always refers to jira tickets in the commits.`
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`07:09.03`	`Xinhuan`	`lol @ BabyWigs`
`07:10.36`	`Orionshock`	`^^`
`07:10.48`	`Xinhuan`	`i wonder what bosses/instances it supports`
`07:10.57`	`Orionshock`	`SM?`
`07:10.58`	`exor674`	`Deadmines so far`
`07:12.18`	`krynn`	`nice lol`
`07:12.35`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: taboo regions, can i get a 4th dot?`
`07:12.50`	`Xinhuan`	`right click on an existing dot`
`07:12.53`	`Xinhuan`	`a menu appears`
`07:12.55`	`Xinhuan`	`with 3 options`
`07:13.03`	`Fisker-`	`moar like a CHALLENGER APPEARS`
`07:13.13`	`Xinhuan`	`"Delete node", "Insert node before (red)" and "Insert node after (green)"`
`07:13.56`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, ya taboo can have 1000 nodes, i dont' really care, and it can be as complex as you want, just drag them aronud`
`07:14.57`	`Orionshock`	`k, w/ taboo's you can plot the course arround the areas you can't pass though ... makes life much easier`
`07:15.06`	`Xinhuan`	`correct`
`07:15.14`	`Xinhuan`	`useful to tell routes to ignore certain areas`
`07:15.25`	`Xinhuan`	`and i'll make sure your routes don't fly thru them (if possible)`
`07:16.42`	`Fin`	`yay`
`07:16.46`	`Fin`	`WGA strike over`
`07:16.56`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`07:17.00`	`Xinhuan`	`why is it over?`
`07:17.03`	`Xinhuan`	`which side gave in?`
`07:17.22`	`Fin`	`they reached an agreement :)`
`07:17.29`	`Fin`	`I'm guessing that the writers got screwed, tho`
`07:17.38`	`Xinhuan`	`go find out pfffft`
`07:17.40`	`Xinhuan`	`useless!`
`07:17.49`	`Fin`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike`
`07:18.04`	`Fin`	`there, I have found out`
`07:18.07`	`Fin`	`:)`
`07:20.00`	`Xinhuan`	`so i expect a new xkcd comic about it to come out soon lol`
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`07:20.45`	`kebinusan`	`did they get what they wanted`
`07:20.56`	`Fin`	`everything?`
`07:20.57`	`Fin`	`wow`
`07:21.15`	`Fin`	`well, good`
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`07:22.19`	`Orionshock`	`think funky would mind if i fixed his deDE locale in BMM?`
`07:23.02`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think he will mind`
`07:26.26`	`CIA-8`	`03orionshock * r61122 10BasicMinimap/Locales/deDE.lua: BasicMinimap: fix deDE locale to not error on load`
`07:27.11`	`Orionshock`	`now to patch it again so that group calender dosn't get hidden :\`
`07:28.18`	`aestil`	`so, i have 3 eepanels parented to Minimap. the highest level panel always covers the minimap.`
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`07:28.46`	`Xinhuan`	`why do you need 3?`
`07:28.48`	`aestil`	`i have to go into eepanels, reset it from 'background' to something else, and then back to 'background' and then the minimap shows up again.`
`07:29.30`	`aestil`	`i'd show you, but buu server is down.`
`07:29.36`	`aestil`	`i have borders.`
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`07:30.51`	`aestil`	`any reason why that should happen?`
`07:30.57`	`aestil`	`it only happens on one of my characters.`
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`07:40.43`	`Hjalte`	`On live realms at Archimonde yesterday, me and my friend were both using Recount, together with a few other raid-members, but our damage meter statistics were really far apart. We were both syncing. Anyone experienced something like it?`
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`07:42.05`	`exor674`	`randomly, why the hell do the PTR queues have to be full :(`
`07:44.17`	`Zhinjio`	`hey folks: any essential hunter addons I need to know about?`
`07:44.26`	`aestil`	`quartz`
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`07:51.16`	`Xinhuan`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493775841&sid=1`
`07:51.18`	`Xinhuan`	`wow sb`
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`07:51.26`	`Xinhuan`	`nice post`
`07:52.12`	`aestil`	`what does that mean?`
`07:52.37`	`Xinhuan`	`it means, "i hope those suggestions get implemented"`
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`08:02.05`	`Elsia`	`morning`
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`08:05.48`	`raylu`	`o.0, i svn updated gathermate and its now just a plugin api`
`08:06.04`	`neenee`	`Is it another thread with 1 suggestion post and a lot of useless /signs?`
`08:06.15`	`Xinhuan`	`raylu, don't use the branches anymore`
`08:06.18`	`Xinhuan`	`use the trunk version`
`08:06.35`	`raylu`	`should i do the same for ace3?`
`08:06.38`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`08:06.56`	`Xinhuan`	`unless, for some specific reason, you want to use the branches/Ace3/RC1`
`08:07.02`	`Xinhuan`	`instead of trunk/Ace3`
`08:07.08`	`Daemona`	`goddamn, routing to EJ broken for anyone else again?`
`08:07.17`	`Elsia`	`xin: just tried _G["DropDownList1"]:IsVisible(), doesn't work. any other ways to do this?`
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`08:07.38`	`Xinhuan`	`there doesn't seem to be a good way as far as i can tell, i'll poke around`
`08:07.58`	`Elsia`	`alright.. I really need this...`
`08:08.04`	`Xinhuan`	`DropDownList1:IsVisible()`
`08:08.06`	`Xinhuan`	`doesn't work?`
`08:08.16`	`Elsia`	`trying`
`08:08.53`	`Elsia`	`no`
`08:09.02`	`Xinhuan`	`it returns 1 or nil remember?`
`08:09.08`	`Elsia`	`1`
`08:09.09`	`Xinhuan`	`what are you checking for specifically`
`08:09.15`	`Xinhuan`	`what do you want`
`08:09.34`	`Elsia`	`I want to know if one is currently open so I know to call toggle once or twice to reopen a modified one elsewhere`
`08:09.52`	`Xinhuan`	`how about, before the Toggle call, just call CloseDropDownMenus()`
`08:10.10`	`Xinhuan`	`should be the same function as the one in the CLOSE option`
`08:10.11`	`Xinhuan`	`in the menu`
`08:10.17`	`Xinhuan`	`isn't that simpler?`
`08:10.51`	`Elsia`	`lemme check`
`08:10.56`	`Xinhuan`	`CloseDropDownMenus(level) it takes in an optional argument`
`08:11.00`	`Xinhuan`	`to close a level N menu`
`08:11.05`	`Xinhuan`	`default to level 1 (the root menu)`
`08:11.33`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e you're forcing an existing one to close, before you open it`
`08:11.44`	`Xinhuan`	`simple solutions are always the best`
`08:11.50`	`Hjalte`	`Elsia: Last night on Archimonde, me and my friend were both using Recount, together with a few more in the raid, and I think we all had sync on. Nevertheless our data didn't match in the end - any idea why?`
`08:12.09`	`Xinhuan`	`Hjalte, i bet it has to do with pet merging ;p`
`08:12.13`	`Elsia`	`awesome, that worked, thanx xin`
`08:12.52`	`Hjalte`	`Xinhuan: He's a paladin, and I'm a destru warlock (no pet) - and it was among others mine and his personal data that didnt match :)`
`08:13.06`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't know then :)`
`08:13.27`	`Xinhuan`	`does recount send delta changes over the comms?`
`08:13.31`	`Xinhuan`	`or absolute values?`
`08:13.45`	`Elsia`	`not sure, tbh I haven't had the time to look at the sync code and if it tried to guarantee 100% matches, the time-stamping is an issue for any syncing`
`08:14.00`	`Elsia`	`absolute as far as I know but don't quote me on it`
`08:14.22`	`Elsia`	`there is a good chance that the sync code as is dies when I have time and more pressing issues are done with`
`08:14.46`	`Elsia`	`I want to run tests if the combat log time-stamps are consistent within raid...`
`08:16.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think theyre local timestamps and not the game time`
`08:16.44`	`Elsia`	`xin: how aside from roster do I get convenient mapping from unit name to unitidstring or if they are in raid and what group in raid they are in?`
`08:16.55`	`Elsia`	`bleh`
`08:17.02`	`Elsia`	`means syncing is as haphazards as it was`
`08:17.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can pass the Name to the Unit*() funcs`
`08:18.32`	`Elsia`	`arrow: there is a UnitName2ID of sorts?`
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`08:18.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`play with UnitInRaid()`
`08:19.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`and UnitInParty()`
`08:19.15`	`Xinhuan`	`Arrowmaster, he wants to know, for a given player name, say "Xinhuan", what unitID is this guy Xinhuan`
`08:19.20`	`Xinhuan`	`it could be any of the raidXX`
`08:19.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah play with UnitInRaid("Name")`
`08:19.37`	`Xinhuan`	`i suggest you do it the standard way -- cache it`
`08:19.45`	`Xinhuan`	`on every RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, rebuild the cache`
`08:19.48`	`Elsia`	`that's why I use roster ;)`
`08:20.03`	`Xinhuan`	`xperl does it that way, so do many other addons that doesn't use rosterlib`
`08:20.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`im not exactly sure how UnitInRaid("Name") returns but it returns a number not 1/nil`
`08:20.18`	`Elsia`	`it should be in a lib if to many use it ;)`
`08:20.18`	`Xinhuan`	`and this table does not ever exceed 40 entries`
`08:20.28`	`Elsia`	`it does, for pets`
`08:20.29`	`Xinhuan`	`so it doesn't even use more than about 500 bytes of ram`
`08:20.37`	`Xinhuan`	`well 80 then`
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`08:20.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`the wow api provides that info`
`08:20.55`	`Elsia`	`basically if I run grid, pitbull and recount I should use a lib to do that`
`08:21.11`	`Ordog`	`who decided to do everything using the iframemanager? how am i supposed to single out the addon that bugs when everything is relying on that thing which bugs? ^^`
`08:21.13`	`Xinhuan`	`how about this: Just use RosterLib`
`08:21.27`	`Xinhuan`	`(and include ace2 libraries)`
`08:21.27`	`Elsia`	`I would if it was libstub :D`
`08:21.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`or you can use UnitInRaid("Name")`
`08:21.42`	`Elsia`	`UnitInRaid doesn't give pet info which i need`
`08:21.47`	`CIA-8`	`03daviesh * r61123 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`08:21.47`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`08:21.47`	`CIA-8`	`- Bugfix, T6 Set update, Atlas compatibility fix`
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`08:22.05`	`Xinhuan`	`well you're at a catch 22`
`08:22.11`	`Xinhuan`	`you either write one yourself`
`08:22.15`	`Xinhuan`	`or you use the ace2 rosterlib`
`08:22.19`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
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`08:22.38`	`Elsia`	`yep, it's the silly anti-lib culture that puts me in that catch 22 because code-sharing disappears`
`08:23.00`	`Xinhuan`	`alternatively, you can also port the library too`
`08:23.05`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't see why you can't do that`
`08:23.14`	`Xinhuan`	`i ported Graph-1.0 to LibGraph-2.0`
`08:23.17`	`Elsia`	`I may have to do that...`
`08:23.21`	`Xinhuan`	`and i see you took advantage of it`
`08:23.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`just dont do what everybody else is and make a new library and dump it right into trunk`
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`08:24.31`	`Elsia`	`see some make fun of me for liking libraries, but I still believe that code-sharing is good... it's not a great concept that every addon writes his own roster storage, from that perspective`
`08:24.56`	`cladhaire`	`i don't have a problem with libraries`
`08:24.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`good libraries are great`
`08:25.00`	`cladhaire`	`i have a problem witha library for every single reason`
`08:25.03`	`cladhaire`	`roster is one I disagree with`
`08:25.08`	`cladhaire`	`but shrug`
`08:25.28`	`cladhaire`	`because most addons don't need to store the roster, but instead need to respond to something extremely specific`
`08:25.39`	`cladhaire`	`instead they generalize, and don't believe there's ever an easier solutino`
`08:25.45`	`cladhaire`	`i mean the library must have been written for a reason!!!`
`08:26.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`cladhaire: have you looked at my new library?`
`08:26.40`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`08:26.51`	`cladhaire`	`i dont know which one you're talking about`
`08:27.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`LibGUIDRegistry`
`08:27.27`	`Elsia`	`clad: not sure I follow your argument, so how should grid/pitbull/recount to take an example handle their roster needs if not how it currently works?`
`08:27.28`	`cladhaire`	`yeah, i didn't like the API as a whole, but its certainly useful`
`08:27.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`been hoping to get input on it from other devs but so far its mostly just Antiarc giving me input`
`08:27.39`	`cladhaire`	`Elsia: Have you done roster stuff maually?`
`08:27.50`	`cladhaire`	`cause grid and pitbull have no need to handle roster stuff`
`08:27.56`	`cladhaire`	`is my point`
`08:28.10`	`Elsia`	`well I detect party/raid size changes without roster`
`08:28.23`	`Elsia`	`but I need name->unitId mapping, what's an alternative way to do that?`
`08:28.45`	`cladhaire`	`well, if you're using the secure group template`
`08:28.48`	`cladhaire`	`get the unit attribute from the button`
`08:28.50`	`cladhaire`	`bam, mapping`
`08:28.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`you cant do name->unitid mapping if you want to use both players and pets and be 100% accurate`
`08:29.11`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: also correct`
`08:29.24`	`Elsia`	`alright so what's the issue there then?`
`08:29.24`	`cladhaire`	`Elsia: it was just a specific example, Roster is better than most.`
`08:29.52`	`cladhaire`	`The issue is people writing huge bloated libraries because "the users don't know what they want" and then proliferating them in their addons as "core features"`
`08:29.53`	`cladhaire`	`in my opinions`
`08:29.55`	`Elsia`	`well for me this is very pragmatic: I have roster needs and the question is how to resolve that... for me best with minimal coding effort because I try to protect my "life" too`
`08:29.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`for only players you can use UnitInRaid("Name") but im not exactly sure how to do it because i think the numbers might be offset`
`08:30.11`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: they're offset by 1`
`08:30.12`	`Zhinjio`	`ok, everything just went to hell. lastlog is useless. I missed any answers about essential hunter addons.`
`08:30.14`	`cladhaire`	`versys raid id`
`08:30.42`	`cladhaire`	`i gotta run to the office, i'll be back later this afternoon`
`08:30.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`Zhinjio: somebody told you quartz`
`08:30.59`	`Elsia`	`laters clad`
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`08:31.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`cladhaire: give input on LibGUIDRegistry API on forums please`
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`08:31.37`	`cladhaire`	`if i get a chance, I'll take a look at it again`
`08:31.45`	`neenee`	`Code Monkey get up, get coffee...`
`08:31.56`	`Elsia`	`still don't understand this: <Arrowmaster> you cant do name->unitid mapping if you want to use both players and pets and be 100% accurate`
`08:32.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`hunter names pet same name as MT`
`08:32.35`	`Zhinjio`	`yeah, I run quartz.`
`08:32.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`which "Name" do you want? the MT or the pet?`
`08:32.48`	`Elsia`	`alright, but that's a different issues`
`08:32.55`	`Antiarc`	`You can test UnitIsPlayer(name)`
`08:33.01`	`Elsia`	`any Name->x mapping is messed up for pets`
`08:33.04`	`Antiarc`	`Which is something of a stopgap, but still ugly.`
`08:33.06`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: for one, you should be able to get all information without needing 12 API functions`
`08:33.14`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. there should be a catch-all that has multiple returns`
`08:33.14`	`Antiarc`	`Elsia: My short-lived LibGroup could distinguish`
`08:33.24`	`Antiarc`	`But that's the only thing that it did over the default UI so I scrapped it`
`08:34.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`cladhaire: good point`
`08:35.28`	`Elsia`	`anti: should be easier now for recount, basically whenever I have a Name->x mapping I now also have a GUID, so I can disambiguate the MT from pet before doing the mapping`
`08:35.41`	`Antiarc`	`eggshellent`
`08:35.42`	`Elsia`	`in a sense I'd want a GUID->UnitID or such`
`08:35.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`why do you need a unitid?`
`08:36.44`	`Elsia`	`hmm well really I need raid membership mostly I suppose, so UnitInRaid() that works for pets too really, don't specifically need unitid actually`
`08:37.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`dont use UnitInRaid() for pets`
`08:37.28`	`CIA-8`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61124 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`08:37.28`	`CIA-8`	`Threat-2.0:`
`08:37.28`	`CIA-8`	`- Add Holy Nova, Shadowguard, Binding Heal handling`
`08:37.28`	`CIA-8`	`- Fix Fade`
`08:37.28`	`CIA-8`	`- Changed threat comms to custom serialization`
`08:37.29`	`CIA-8`	`- PublishLocaleAndVersion => PublishVersion`
`08:37.30`	`Elsia`	`hmm maybe I can cook up a workaround... check GUID, if pet check UnitInRaid on owner`
`08:37.31`	`CIA-8`	`- Deprecated global threat. Global threat is stored per-GUID now!`
`08:37.46`	`Elsia`	`\o/`
`08:37.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait`
`08:38.05`	`sica`	`<3 Threat-2.0`
`08:38.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`is this for your 2.4 recount?`
`08:38.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`and syncing?`
`08:38.27`	`Elsia`	`it's for recount`
`08:39.06`	`neenee`	`Does anyone know of a unit frame addon which looks like Linoleum?`
`08:39.09`	`Elsia`	`I'm not touching pre.2-4 recount code unless there is a critical error with it :D that recount dies the moment 2.4 goes live`
`08:39.22`	`Elkano`	`antiarc, Threat-2.0 won't support KTM anymore, will it?`
`08:39.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`because if your listening to the combatlog event the bitflags tell you if the unit is in your party or raid as well as if its a player or pet or guardian`
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`08:39.50`	`Antiarc`	`Elkano: For now, I'm deprecating KTM support while I do the transition. I may put it back in at some point, but Threat is well-established enough that there's far less need for crosstalk.`
`08:39.58`	`Antiarc`	`Also -`
`08:40.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol yeah`
`08:40.04`	`Elsia`	`arrow: yeah very good point, I should work on a flag-handler and see if it resolves my roster need :D`
`08:40.04`	`Antiarc`	`Kenco will have to rewrite KTM for 2.4`
`08:40.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`take out ktm support and you kill ktm`
`08:40.20`	`Antiarc`	`So there's no point in writing KTM support for Threat-2.0 until he updates it`
`08:40.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`Elsia: yeah try to use the bitflag stuff as much as possible`
`08:40.27`	`Elkano`	`Antiarc, that's what I thought, too :)`
`08:40.30`	`Antiarc`	`So I can see what (if anything) he does differently`
`08:40.47`	`Elkano`	`also it sucks to be the one who is supporting the other and noth the other way around`
`08:40.54`	`Antiarc`	`Yes, it does.`
`08:41.02`	`Antiarc`	`Omen-KTM support is extremely rough as-is`
`08:41.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`more people use threat than ktm now`
`08:41.11`	`Antiarc`	`Threat is the de facto standard, yes`
`08:41.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`you drop ktm you kill ktm`
`08:41.27`	`Antiarc`	`Meh. I don't have any particular desire to kill KTM`
`08:41.27`	`Daemona`	`honestly, antiarc, if i was you, i'd simply drop ktm support.`
`08:41.28`	`Elkano`	`in that case: DO IT!`
`08:41.30`	`Antiarc`	`Just to do what's best for the users.`
`08:41.39`	`Antiarc`	`Which, in this case, is dropping KTM support for the time being.`
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`08:41.48`	`Elsia`	`KTM could use threat-2.0...`
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`08:42.03`	`Diao`	`yay`
`08:42.05`	`Diao`	`fixed my router issue`
`08:42.07`	`Diao`	`no lag now`
`08:42.08`	`Antiarc`	`But then Kenco would have to admit that I'm not a mouth-breathing mathematically-challenged retard`
`08:42.20`	`Antiarc`	`So yeah. :P`
`08:43.11`	`neenee`	`Just a judgemental generalizing git? :P`
`08:43.41`	`Daemona`	`Antiarc what i always wondered was... with all the combat log changes, wouldnt be the easiest way (speak most unprofessional) to just write a new parser lib to adept the old combat log addons to the new combat log? ;)`
`08:43.44`	`Antiarc`	`No, he actually said about as much to me :P`
`08:43.54`	`neenee`	`ah well.`
`08:44.11`	`neenee`	`At least you use apostrophes, unlike Daemona :)`
`08:44.14`	`Antiarc`	`Daemona: Ehhhh. Not really. The info provided has changed/been buffed up, and a parser lib is redundant now`
`08:44.16`	`neenee`	`Gives you a +1 in my book.`
`08:44.29`	`Antiarc`	`It's about as much work to use a parser lib as it is to use the combat events directly now`
`08:44.35`	`Antiarc`	`So there's no good reason for the middleman.`
`08:44.41`	`Daemona`	`apostrophe'S are for those that don't type on a laptop ;)`
`08:44.52`	`Daemona`	`ahh k`
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`08:45.00`	`neenee`	`:)`
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`08:48.35`	`Elsia`	`alright work calling, laters`
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`08:55.08`	`Antiarc`	`Arrowmaster: How do I get the mob ID from a GUID?`
`08:55.15`	`Antiarc`	`Or is that in LibGUIDRegistry alredy?`
`08:55.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`not yet`
`08:55.27`	`Antiarc`	`WTB PST`
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`08:55.37`	`Antiarc`	`(I'm changing the NPC modules to use NPC IDs rather than localized names)`
`08:55.40`	`Antiarc`	`No more babble-boss!`
`08:55.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`tonumber(string.sub(GUID,-12,-7),16)`
`08:55.54`	`Orionshock`	`gg i love wowwiki, how much spell hit does one need?`
`08:55.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`or better yet`
`08:56.00`	`Orionshock`	`% wise?`
`08:56.12`	`sica`	`Orionshock: 16%`
`08:56.15`	`Antiarc`	`Danke`
`08:56.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`tonumber(GUID:sub(-12,-7),16)`
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`08:56.40`	`Orionshock`	`why not -19 in the middle?`
`08:57.04`	`Camci`	`how do i remove the old PTR files?`
`08:57.10`	`Camci`	`i think i still have 2.3 ...`
`08:57.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`Camci: delete WoWTest`
`08:57.21`	`Camci`	`just delete it?`
`08:57.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`08:57.33`	`Camci`	`aha thank you`
`08:57.40`	`Camci`	`2.4 is live now yes?`
`08:57.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`not live`
`08:58.04`	`Camci`	`oh alrigh`
`08:58.05`	`Camci`	`t`
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`09:02.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow just wow`
`09:02.50`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:03.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`WideQuestLog is a direct rip of DoubleWide`
`09:03.36`	`Zhinjio`	`question: has anyone started working with the new combatlogs format on the ptrs yet?`
`09:03.45`	`Antiarc`	`Nope, nobody has`
`09:03.47`	`Grum`	`Arrowmaster: as in 'diffs give none except name' ?`
`09:03.47`	`Antiarc`	`You can be the first!`
`09:04.03`	`Zhinjio`	`LIES!`
`09:04.07`	`Camci`	`[09:57] <Camci> 2.4 is live now yes?`
`09:04.08`	`Camci`	`[09:57] <Arrowmaster> not live`
`09:04.13`	`Camci`	`i ment the ptr?`
`09:04.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`Grum: as in go compare the code its not 'exactly' the same but its the same`
`09:04.19`	`Camci`	`ptr is up right? :P`
`09:04.40`	`Grum`	`Arrowmaster: is there more than 1 way to do it? or did they both pick the most obvious one? :p`
`09:05.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`look at them`
`09:05.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`its THE EXACT SAME THING except a few sizes are different and some ;'s and extra ()'s are removed`
`09:07.23`	`Lukian`	`anyone on ptr atm?`
`09:07.52`	`Lukian`	`Wondering if 27755 got fixed to ret stats`
`09:08.56`	`Camci`	`cant download the patch from blizzards site... :/`
`09:08.57`	`Zhinjio`	`my impression is that the ptrs are down until they work out the character transfer issues. But that impression could be wrong`
`09:09.12`	`Lukian`	`I logged in earlier today..`
`09:09.13`	`Antiarc`	`The PTRs are up`
`09:09.15`	`Antiarc`	`You just can't copy`
`09:09.17`	`Zhinjio`	`ok`
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`09:16.13`	`dodga`	`sica: I thought you were not playing ATM :P Also, get to work :>`
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`09:16.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`Tekkub: poke`
`09:16.48`	`Tekkub`	`what?`
`09:17.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`you fail`
`09:17.07`	`Tekkub`	`ok`
`09:17.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11293.msg179887#msg179887`
`09:18.03`	`Tekkub`	`Arrow, I wasn't bothered enough to actually look at his addon`
`09:18.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`way to not look at the code after not getting an answer to your question`
`09:18.29`	`Tekkub`	`but the total silence was my answer: "Nothing, it just hase Ace2 in it"`
`09:18.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah its doublewide inside an onenable`
`09:18.55`	`Tekkub`	`I was even trying to be fair and let the guy defend it`
`09:19.13`	`Tekkub`	`like "oh yea DW kick ass but this also does blah"`
`09:19.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`the localization file doesnt even get used because i dont even see a registerchatcommand or even a db to save the enable/disable state`
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`09:19.51`	`Tekkub`	`heh`
`09:20.09`	`Tekkub`	`gotta love people that just throw the default set of libs at it and never use it`
`09:20.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`if i had access to i would be baning this guy from the svn for something this bad`
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`09:20.41`	`Shadowed`	`ssshhh Arrowmaster`
`09:20.44`	`Shadowed`	`through the magic of ace2`
`09:20.45`	`Shadowed`	`it's better`
`09:20.49`	`Shadowed`	`don't question it, it just is`
`09:21.05`	`Tekkub`	`points at reply`
`09:21.10`	`Tekkub`	`lets scare him up a bit`
`09:21.11`	`Tekkub`	`:)`
`09:21.13`	`Shadowed`	`The ReloadUI() in OnDisable() is a nice touch`
`09:21.25`	`Tekkub`	`shad: what?`
`09:21.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`except it gets enabled on reload`
`09:21.29`	`Tekkub`	`srsly?`
`09:21.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`09:21.32`	`Shadowed`	`Tekkub: Check his code`
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`09:21.37`	`Tekkub`	`lawl`
`09:21.37`	`Shadowed`	`He has a ReloadUI() in :OnDisable()`
`09:21.44`	`Tekkub`	`BONUS FEATURE!`
`09:21.51`	`chexsum`	`lol`
`09:21.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`and no chatcommands or db`
`09:22.02`	`Shadowed`	`this guy wins imo`
`09:22.05`	`Tekkub`	`so it can't be disabled anyway?`
`09:22.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`so really no way to call the ondisable`
`09:22.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
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`09:22.21`	`Tekkub`	`so it adds loads of Win to DW, cool`
`09:22.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`well you could disable it with /ace`
`09:22.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`but it will be enabled on reload since it includes acedb but doesnt use it`
`09:22.59`	`Tekkub`	`that's like DoubleWin right there`
`09:23.03`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm sure Tekkub could post some legal notices about code copying :)`
`09:23.17`	`Xinhuan`	`Tekkub is like a winner just like that`
`09:23.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh oh oh can i do the svn del?`
`09:23.33`	`Tekkub`	`I'm sure Tekkub wouldn't because code copying, with actual improvements, is the basis of Tekkub's business`
`09:23.43`	`Tekkub`	`no arrow, I want to scare him a bit`
`09:23.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`can i be the one to do it later?`
`09:24.09`	`Tekkub`	`someone needs to get Iriel in on this, have him act as if he's seriously fucking pissed`
`09:24.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`09:24.38`	`Tekkub`	`and then yes, by all means you can, after we've had our fun`
`09:24.54`	`Xinhuan`	`Tekkub only copies ideas`
`09:24.56`	`Xinhuan`	`that's different`
`09:25.01`	`Xinhuan`	`from copying code line for line`
`09:25.16`	`Tekkub`	`Well, to be more specific, I rewrite 90% of the code I copy`
`09:25.30`	`Tekkub`	`because the idea is good, but the code is crying baby jesus`
`09:25.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`09:26.06`	`Tekkub`	`*points at Munchies --> Buffet`
`09:26.23`	`Tekkub`	`ReagentRestocker --> StealYourCarbon`
`09:26.26`	`chexsum`	`shit @ getting up to get smokes then forgetting to get them`
`09:26.51`	`Tekkub`	`I'm actually enjoying the hubby on Chantix`
`09:27.09`	`Tekkub`	`he still smokes (first week) but he already knows it's doing nothing for him`
`09:27.28`	`Tekkub`	`and unlike patches/etc, he doesn't have this urge to stop using it`
`09:27.54`	`Grum`	`lolkek`
`09:28.01`	`chexsum`	`never heard of chantix`
`09:28.04`	`Tekkub`	`and tho he's a tad moody, it's not like his other attempts, and he's already acting a lot happier`
`09:28.16`	`Grum`	`what about if i push some broken locale files to that WideQuestLog? :D`
`09:28.21`	`Tekkub`	`it's like Zyban, except not an accident`
`09:28.30`	`chexsum`	`never heard of zyban`
`09:28.31`	`Orionshock`	`anyone else noticing omen being fubar'ed recently?`
`09:28.32`	`Grum`	`that accidently say: 'use DoubleWide from http:..'`
`09:28.38`	`chexsum`	`im not into drugs`
`09:28.54`	`Tekkub`	`Zyban == Wellbutrin, an antidepresant that also seems to lower the urge to smoke`
`09:29.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`Grum: but the locale files dont even get used`
`09:29.09`	`Grum`	`lolx`
`09:29.10`	`CIA-8`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61125 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Tracker.lua):`
`09:29.10`	`CIA-8`	`Recount:`
`09:29.10`	`CIA-8`	`- Fixed bug: Deaths are now recorded, death time-line still has a bug (damage amounts wrong in detail display)`
`09:29.10`	`CIA-8`	`- Dropdown menues for bar operations now behave properly.`
`09:29.14`	`Tekkub`	`I'm not into drugs either, but if it works at getting him to quit, by all means`
`09:29.26`	`Tekkub`	`cigs are already an outside chemical influence`
`09:29.41`	`Tekkub`	`if another chem is needed to finally break that I don't mind`
`09:29.47`	`Tekkub`	`plus I'm not the one taking it :)`
`09:30.04`	`chexsum`	`i only smoke for the 'blowing smoke out of your mouth' image`
`09:30.06`	`Grum`	`i'm just curious, shall we just purge WideQuestLog?`
`09:30.12`	`chexsum`	`1mg ones`
`09:30.15`	`Grum`	`i can do it by accident ^^`
`09:30.15`	`TNSe`	`gotta love looking for group`
`09:30.28`	`Tekkub`	`if I smoked, which I have no urge to, it'd only be cigars for the flavour`
`09:30.29`	`TNSe`	`looking for group slavepens, lvl 68 hunter invites me and then sets me to leader`
`09:30.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`Grum: no we are having fun first, then i get to purge it`
`09:30.32`	`Kerafyrm`	`how's the quest to RE the new combat log?`
`09:30.36`	`chexsum`	`i failed to down kaelthingo yesterday :(`
`09:30.38`	`Tekkub`	`but cigars are totally different`
`09:30.42`	`chexsum`	`id hate to see him in heroic`
`09:31.06`	`Tekkub`	`Kael'2.0?`
`09:31.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`heroic kael pyroblasts for 80k ive heard`
`09:31.06`	`Ordog`	`is someone using outfitter + bagnon bank in here ?`
`09:31.26`	`chexsum`	`combatlogevent is decently documented now but i think blizzard has some bugs with it`
`09:31.42`	`Grum`	`Ordog: yeah, but using Combuctor (orso O.o)`
`09:31.51`	`Kerafyrm`	`they have said its a work in progress.. so i'd expect so..`
`09:31.52`	`chexsum`	`i see some strange things in combatlog`
`09:31.52`	`Tekkub`	`I can't wait for the next patch push... I soooooo want to toy with the config UI more`
`09:31.53`	`Kerafyrm`	`good to hear`
`09:31.55`	`Kerafyrm`	`thou`
`09:32.15`	`Tekkub`	`Zooty seems to really want to get it right for all of us`
`09:32.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`the moving combatlog annoys me enough to keep me off the ptr`
`09:32.40`	`chexsum`	`just get rid of it :P`
`09:32.55`	`Ordog`	`well my problem is that all items in the default bank backpack (firstone you get) have no tooltips, well they have but either they are replaced by "used by outfit: ... " or they just disappear after a microsecond`
`09:33.07`	`Ordog`	`i also get 3 attempt to call global 'IFrameFactory' (a nil value) on gameload`
`09:33.12`	`Ordog`	`dunno if that is related`
`09:33.20`	`chexsum`	`im probably going to make it like the old one since i like to see it but hate this new one`
`09:33.56`	`chexsum`	`i cant see tooltips on inspect or bank items`
`09:34.05`	`Grum`	`Ordog: and you are only using these 2 addons while testing?`
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`09:35.38`	`Ordog`	`disdabe "most" other stuff`
`09:35.40`	`Ordog`	`disabled`
`09:36.06`	`Ordog`	`will give it a shot with only bagnon + dependencies + outfitter ...`
`09:37.00`	`Ordog`	`what (in general) uses the IFrameFactory ?`
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`09:39.40`	`chexsum`	`ive heard of that but it was a long time ago`
`09:41.41`	`chexsum`	`iframefactory was last updated in 2006`
`09:42.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`no it was updated recently`
`09:43.30`	`chexsum`	`oh its on wowace site`
`09:44.07`	`Keias`	`Is there a way for grid to display the raid as a single column?`
`09:45.56`	`Bruners`	`!points 322`
`09:45.57`	`Xinhuan`	`322 arena points require 1400(5s), 1520(3s) and 1568(2s) team rating.`
`09:46.01`	`Ordog`	`hm its not outfitter`
`09:46.09`	`Ordog`	`nor rating buster`
`09:46.19`	`Nargiddley`	`coolDown uses it I think`
`09:46.50`	`CIA-8`	`03ammo * r61126 10WideQuestLog/: WideQuestLog: removed from svn, if you want to steal other peoples code (Iriel's DoubleWide), do it somewhere else not on the wowace svn.`
`09:47.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`[Ammo]: DAMN YOU! TEKKUB TOLD ME I COULD DO THAT!`
`09:47.23`	`Kalroth`	`Owned!`
`09:47.32`	`Olison`	`haha`
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`09:47.47`	`Olison`	`first the poor kids post gets flamed and then that`
`09:47.52`	`Olison`	`owned indeed :Î`
`09:47.53`	`Olison`	`:D`
`09:47.59`	`Diao`	`lol`
`09:48.05`	`[Ammo]`	`thieves are not poor kids`
`09:48.11`	`Tekkub`	`cair was even gonna get Iriel in on the fun first`
`09:48.14`	`Kalroth`	`Hrm, can you upload binary files to the svn? I could use it as a distribution site for pirated software!`
`09:48.15`	`Olison`	`true`
`09:48.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`Kalroth: not unless your svn account gets special permissions`
`09:48.44`	`Kalroth`	`I just need to get an account there of course, but that's easy as long as noone tells the svn operators of my plans!`
`09:49.01`	`[Ammo]`	`you need special permissions`
`09:49.06`	`Kalroth`	`Oh`
`09:49.32`	`Fisker-`	`what's wrong in stealing other people's code?`
`09:49.48`	`Kalroth`	`I could probably encode a 700mb iso into a .lua file and then create a small .lua program to decode it!`
`09:49.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`[Ammo]: dont forget to have it removed from files unless thats done automaticly now`
`09:50.00`	`Orionshock`	`ok, we're better now : http://wowwebstats.com/i51iboeuxzrj3`
`09:50.15`	`[Ammo]`	`Arrowmaster: I'll ask some of the powers that be to do that`
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`09:52.20`	`Kalroth`	`Orionshock: The title of the log is a bit misleading considering you wiped on Maulgar :P`
`09:52.47`	`Orionshock`	`Kalroth: ya, i proxy pulled mulgar accedently :\`
`09:54.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`[Ammo], Tekkub: lol you know what, now i actually dont think it was copied from DoubleWide at all`
`09:54.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/beql/questlog.lua`
`09:54.21`	`Ordog`	`uhm where does wow store the list of enabed addons?`
`09:54.32`	`Ordog`	`ah ok`
`09:54.33`	`Ordog`	`nv,`
`09:54.35`	`Ordog`	`m`
`09:54.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`beql copied doublewide`
`09:54.51`	`Tekkub`	`he did say beql in the thread didn't he?`
`09:55.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`and widequestlog copied beql`
`09:55.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah he did`
`09:55.16`	`Tekkub`	`"It is derived from beql code."`
`09:55.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`it explains why the sizes were different`
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`09:56.06`	`Ordog`	`arf`
`09:56.14`	`Tekkub`	`meh?`
`09:56.35`	`Ordog`	`only addon loaded: bagnon bagnon_forever bagnon_options tooltips still disappear on default bank slots`
`09:58.08`	`Ordog`	`only bagnon same, deleting stored variables ... kinda last resort?`
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`09:58.54`	`Ordog`	`nope!`
`09:58.56`	`Ordog`	`wtf`
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`09:59.34`	`Ordog`	`does someone use bagnon at all?`
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`10:00.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`i do`
`10:00.59`	`Ordog`	`the tooltips just disappear after a microsecond but only for the default bank slots`
`10:01.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`no clue i dont use the default bank`
`10:01.55`	`Ordog`	`could you try, so i know its not just me? :)`
`10:02.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`sorry, id have to close a bunch of stuff to start up wow`
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`10:04.12`	`Ordog`	`hmk who can i hump on for that bug? ^^`
`10:04.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`tuller if you can find him`
`10:05.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`"how well is the current omen working on ptr has anyone tried it out?"`
`10:05.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`"It works exactly as expected on PTR, not at all."`
`10:05.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah im a dick`
`10:07.07`	`Ordog`	`Tuller said: "You are correct, its an issue with EQL" but i dont have EQL loaded at that point 8/`
`10:07.31`	`Ordog`	`somebody mentioned a relatively similar bug on curse`
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`10:08.19`	`Ordog`	`guild vault implementation in bagnon: Tuller said: "not for a long time." ahhhh`
`10:09.13`	`Ordog`	`hm another conflict mentiones LibRock`
`10:09.34`	`Ordog`	`will whine in that thread too :)`
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`10:19.19`	`CIA-8`	`03helium * r61127 10Grid/GridLocale-zhTW.lua: Grid: updated zhTW localization`
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`10:22.45`	`Ordog`	`oh and it really was coolDown causing those iFrameManager bugs thanks Nargiddley`
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`10:25.23`	`Antiarc`	`Bah.`
`10:25.56`	`Antiarc`	`The combat log bitmasks aren't going to be guaranteed available unless you set your mod to depend on Blizzard_CombatLog or put them in your own file, are they?`
`10:26.09`	`Ordog`	`periodic table stuff is load on demand right?`
`10:26.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats why i did LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 the way i did`
`10:26.30`	`Antiarc`	`That really sucks to have to mirror all of that.`
`10:26.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`bliz should put them in a different file`
`10:26.46`	`Antiarc`	`yeah.`
`10:26.52`	`Antiarc`	`Make it part of the glue, IMO`
`10:27.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`you mean framexml, glue if for the login stuff`
`10:27.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`s/if/is/`
`10:27.27`	`Antiarc`	`right`
`10:28.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`but having them as locals is good too, so if bliz moved them to a framexml file instead of the lod addon then i could remove the 'or 0x00000000' part in the lib`
`10:28.57`	`Antiarc`	`Yup`
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`10:31.06`	`Orionshock`	`mags is so boring`
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`10:35.54`	`CIA-8`	`03pettigrow * r61128 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: add Magisters' Terrace`
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`10:36.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody go complain to slouken that we cant kill off babble-zone`
`10:37.06`	`Xinhuan`	`the only reason why its not killable off is that not every zone has maps for it, so we can't use Mapfiles as a base ID either`
`10:37.21`	`Xinhuan`	`arenas, instances, and zones like Twisting Nether, BRM, etc`
`10:37.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`and people would get angry if we kept changing their map to do stuff like that`
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`10:39.57`	`Recluse`	`hrm, sick...dailies doesn't auto-accept cook q`
`10:42.03`	`Olison`	`oh man :D http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11293.msg179905#msg179905 made me giggle`
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`10:44.59`	`Ordog`	`uhm FuBar\FuBar-Locale-enUS.lua:1: attempt to call global 'Rock' (a nil value) LibRock is enabled`
`10:45.41`	`Antiarc`	`So, this is pretty cool`
`10:45.50`	`Antiarc`	`When a mob casts a spell, I'm dumping GetSpellLink(spellID) to the chat frame`
`10:45.56`	`Antiarc`	`So I can get details on every spell a mob casts.`
`10:46.04`	`Grum`	`nice`
`10:46.06`	`Antiarc`	`I think I'll make a lookup book`
`10:46.15`	`Antiarc`	`So you can pull up a mob and see what spells they cast`
`10:46.18`	`Grum`	`~api GetSpellLink`
`10:46.18`	`purl`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellLink`
`10:46.31`	`Kerafyrm`	`points Antiarc @ NECB :P`
`10:46.50`	`Antiarc`	`Heh`
`10:46.51`	`Grum`	`what does it return?`
`10:46.55`	`Antiarc`	`I haven't used NECB in ages`
`10:46.58`	`Grum`	`there is no api page yet`
`10:47.01`	`Antiarc`	`It returns a spell link, suitable for clicking`
`10:47.14`	`Wobin`	`Antiarc: You should have an addon that warns to throw up fire sheild or frost shield =)`
`10:47.16`	`Kerafyrm`	`NECB dies in 2.4, Author not willing to rewrite for Combat Log overhaul....`
`10:47.37`	`Antiarc`	`Wobin: Since we can get the school of a spell, that'd be trivial!`
`10:47.45`	`Kerafyrm`	`So, my pose to you Antiarc, How much does your PayPal acct need to grow by in order to see an Ace equiv of NECB :)`
`10:47.51`	`Antiarc`	`Hahaha`
`10:47.57`	`Antiarc`	`It's less my PayPal account and more my time-per-day`
`10:48.10`	`Civrock`	`Kerafyrm: NECB is being continued by 3 other addon authors, including Funkydude.`
`10:48.30`	`Kerafyrm`	`Aye, thats whats been said.. I'll beleive it when I see it.`
`10:48.30`	`Ordog`	`"indeed, one must keep up with the bleeding edge of two column quest log technologies." <- so true!`
`10:48.31`	`Antiarc`	`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021308_034711.jpg`
`10:48.50`	`Grum`	`Antiarc: does it actually show all spells?`
`10:48.54`	`Antiarc`	`yes`
`10:48.59`	`Grum`	`even the ones without 'targets' so to say?`
`10:49.03`	`Antiarc`	`yes`
`10:49.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait we can get cast time from GetSpellInfo now right? so no having a huge db of spells with cast times for something like necb?`
`10:49.44`	`Grum`	`humz even the ones that only have 'serverside effects' ?`
`10:50.01`	`Antiarc`	`shrug`
`10:50.12`	`Grum`	`if so - that would make the bossmods superbly accurate O.o`
`10:50.17`	`Fisker-`	`does it even show those who are not shown?`
`10:50.22`	`Kerafyrm`	`wow`
`10:50.26`	`Kerafyrm`	`thats pretty 'sweeping' imo`
`10:50.32`	`Recluse`	`is this spell link ptr or live? o.O`
`10:50.35`	`Antiarc`	`PTR`
`10:50.36`	`Grum`	`ptr`
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`10:50.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`name, rank, icon, cost, isFunnel, powerType, castTime, minRange, maxRange = GetSpellInfo(spellId or spellName or spellLink)`
`10:50.48`	`Recluse`	`ah, no wonder i never heard of it lol`
`10:50.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`castTime!`
`10:51.02`	`Kerafyrm`	`wow`
`10:51.16`	`Kerafyrm`	`necb(or equiv) just got smaller then`
`10:51.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`and you get the spellid from the event`
`10:51.46`	`Recluse`	`supports sending via chat to other users/channels like an itemlink?`
`10:51.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`just got a lot easier and better, i hated that necb had a db for spell cast times`
`10:52.02`	`Antiarc`	`Recluse: Yes`
`10:52.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes everybodys been having fun linking shit on ptr`
`10:52.17`	`Recluse`	`that is awesome =3`
`10:52.18`	`Kerafyrm`	`people need to stop linking and get to work on the dailies`
`10:52.20`	`Ordog`	`[2008/02/13 11:40:52-501-x1]: Cartographer_LookNFeel\LookNFeel.lua:1: Cartographer not found! eh?`
`10:52.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`i link my quest for the skull of korrak`
`10:52.22`	`Kerafyrm`	`i wanna see the new badge loot`
`10:52.23`	`Kerafyrm`	`;P`
`10:53.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ordog: hehe that probably means you got another error in cartographer first`
`10:53.11`	`Ordog`	`uhm no`
`10:53.18`	`Ordog`	`its the fourth in bugsack`
`10:53.21`	`Grum`	`Arrowmaster: the only thing i hope i that it will be accurate for setbonuses as well`
`10:53.29`	`Fisker-`	`what's your ticket about Antiarc ?`
`10:53.34`	`Kerafyrm`	`lol`
`10:53.34`	`Ordog`	`the first tree are about fubar calling "Rock"`
`10:53.48`	`Antiarc`	`Fisker-: I asked REALLY nicely if a GM could bump me to 70 since the copy is down`
`10:53.50`	`Antiarc`	`No response yet :P`
`10:54.01`	`Antiarc`	`I need access to high-level abilities to continue development`
`10:54.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`well if Rock cant be found then cartographer would error`
`10:54.18`	`Grum`	`but that also means you fucked up your install of addons`
`10:54.22`	`Ordog`	`Rock beeing LibRock ?`
`10:54.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`10:54.35`	`Grum`	`no dont install that seperately ;)`
`10:54.49`	`Ordog`	`installed without externals`
`10:54.55`	`Ordog`	`but its enabled Oo`
`10:55.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`update it?`
`10:55.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont know`
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`10:55.30`	`Ordog`	`just did ;)`
`10:55.39`	`Ordog`	`but i guess i will just purge all ...`
`10:56.21`	`Grum`	`you did ofc exit your wow right?`
`10:56.30`	`Ordog`	`ofc ;P`
`10:56.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`i just got a job offer via email for a $100,000/yr job`
`10:56.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`deleting`
`10:57.03`	`Ordog`	`forwarding cheques via western union?`
`10:57.06`	`Ordog`	`i got that too !`
`10:57.07`	`Ordog`	`^^`
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`10:58.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`no didnt even give any info just a link`
`10:58.31`	`Ordog`	`i was also asked to "dope my best friend"`
`10:59.03`	`Ordog`	`dunno hes doped all day so that doesnt make sense but i will ask him :P`
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`11:00.21`	`CIA-8`	`037destiny * r61129 10BigWigs/modules.xml:`
`11:00.21`	`CIA-8`	`BigWigs:`
`11:00.21`	`CIA-8`	`- typo fix`
`11:00.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm im not sure if i just got an a phishing email or not`
`11:00.53`	`Fisker-`	`you're gonna get a noooooooooooes Antiarc`
`11:00.59`	`Grum`	`send it too me!`
`11:01.00`	`Antiarc`	`I suspect so!`
`11:01.03`	`Antiarc`	`But I asked nicely.`
`11:01.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`it claims to be from my bank but its not the url i use for my bank, but ive never gotten a phishing email before so i dont think im on any of those lists`
`11:01.35`	`Fisker-`	`blizzard should fail less with character copies`
`11:03.39`	`Fisker-`	`it's annoying how it can overqueue by 3-4 days`
`11:03.54`	`Fisker-`	`then it finally goes down and when i got up this morning it was overqueued again`
`11:04.11`	`Quezacolt`	`It's the PTR, they don't make/lose money off it :P`
`11:05.01`	`Quezacolt`	`(assuming you are talking about the PTR copies hits self in head)`
`11:08.27`	`Antiarc`	`So I just had a fun thought`
`11:08.36`	`Antiarc`	`It should be possible to detect if mobs are CC'd or not`
`11:08.41`	`Antiarc`	`And ignore global threat on them if they are`
`11:08.51`	`Xinhuan`	`o_O`
`11:09.06`	`Xinhuan`	`that may require syncing CCed status`
`11:09.09`	`Xinhuan`	`and could cause issues`
`11:09.12`	`Antiarc`	`Nah`
`11:09.16`	`Diao`	`cced mobs don't generate threat?`
`11:09.17`	`Diao`	`o_O`
`11:09.26`	`Antiarc`	`cc'd mobs don't accumulate global (healing) threat, no`
`11:09.31`	`Diao`	`oh`
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`11:09.42`	`Aiiane`	`hmm... apparently RatingBuster thinks 280 spell haste rating = +728.0% o.0`
`11:09.50`	`Antiarc`	`Aiiane: At what level?`
`11:10.04`	`Antiarc`	`If you're on the PTR with a level 3 character, it probably is ;)`
`11:10.07`	`Aiiane`	`ah, that's why. config didnt get set properly for this character :P`
`11:10.22`	`Grum`	`nap!`
`11:10.27`	`Aiiane`	`normally i have calc@minlevel on`
`11:10.33`	`Aiiane`	`but i never play this character :P`
`11:10.37`	`Fin`	`do CC'ed mobs accumulate threat of any other kind?`
`11:10.48`	`Antiarc`	`Direct threat, yes`
`11:10.51`	`Antiarc`	`Global threat, no`
`11:10.52`	`Aiiane`	`yep`
`11:10.59`	`Fisker-`	`i thought they fixed ratings to not be insane at low levels :D`
`11:11.02`	`Antiarc`	`If you Demo Shout a CC'd mob you get threat on it`
`11:11.16`	`Grum`	`Fisker-: they fixed it by not being able to give you the stuff at lowlvls ;D`
`11:11.17`	`Antiarc`	`If you gain rage due to Unbridled Wrath, the CC'd mob doesn't get threat on it`
`11:11.23`	`Fisker-`	`nah Grum`
`11:11.30`	`Fisker-`	`you can still do that with some lowevels`
`11:11.35`	`Fisker-`	`i even did it when TBC launched`
`11:11.42`	`Kerafyrm`	`is there a way to have ratingsbuster compare two linked items and not an item one is wearing?`
`11:11.43`	`Grum`	`what to give it?`
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`11:11.58`	`Fin`	`Kerafyrm: yes, with EquipCompare`
`11:12.01`	`Megalon`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=13948`
`11:12.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`ratings for levels lower than 10 are the same as 10, was it like that when tbc launched?`
`11:12.06`	`Megalon`	`changed to haste rating`
`11:12.13`	`Megalon`	`rocks on new chars`
`11:12.13`	`Fisker-`	`i don't think so Arrowmaster`
`11:12.13`	`Megalon`	`;D`
`11:12.17`	`Fin`	`but, that only really lets you compare items against another character's equipped gear`
`11:12.24`	`Fisker-`	`atleast i'm pretty sure it wasn't for a couple of patches`
`11:13.50`	`Kerafyrm`	`hmmm`
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`11:14.55`	`Grum`	`Fisker-: seriously, what to give a lowlvl char to get 100% avoidance`
`11:15.12`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'morning`
`11:15.13`	`Grum`	`the only thing i can think of is giving it a pants with a tbc enchant`
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`11:15.34`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Grum: wtf would you want that for?`
`11:15.47`	`Fin`	`since I started paying for WoW, I've had 27 free days`
`11:15.57`	`Fin`	`and spent a total of 443 Euros`
`11:16.27`	`Fin`	`that works out quite well compared to beer`
`11:16.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`lol`
`11:17.12`	`CIA-8`	`03antiarc 07Threat-2.0 * r61130 10Threat-2.0/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`11:17.12`	`CIA-8`	`Threat-2.0:`
`11:17.12`	`CIA-8`	`- NPC core upgraded. Some extraneous stuff removed.`
`11:17.13`	`CIA-8`	`- RegisterChatEvent no longer takes a mob name`
`11:17.13`	`CIA-8`	`- .Attacks now expects Spell ID indexes (rather than names)`
`11:17.13`	`CIA-8`	`- .RegisterModule takes NPC IDs (not GUIDs)`
`11:17.15`	`CIA-8`	`- .RegisterCombatant now takes a NPC ID (not a GUID)`
`11:17.18`	`Lukian`	`and other sources of entertainment`
`11:17.45`	`Megalon`	`fin: 30 free days, ha! ;D`
`11:18.24`	`Fin`	`that's not including the first free month, 'course`
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`11:18.30`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I've gotten like three or something >.<`
`11:19.32`	`Kerafyrm`	`well at a glance it looks like omen will work come 2.4 going live :P`
`11:19.59`	`Antiarc`	`Hopefully :P`
`11:20.02`	`Antiarc`	`Lots of work yet to do.`
`11:20.05`	`Antiarc`	`But for now, I sleep.`
`11:20.12`	`Kerafyrm`	`TTYL`
`11:20.15`	`Kerafyrm`	`whoa caps`
`11:21.14`	`Fin`	`whoa! steady! ac-ro-nymmmm!`
`11:22.12`	`Grum`	`wtb IRL addon!`
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`11:23.29`	`Wobin`	`oh man`
`11:23.33`	`Wobin`	`"Flame shock dissapates you"`
`11:23.49`	`Hjalte`	`that means goes away?`
`11:23.54`	`Wobin`	`yes`
`11:24.03`	`Wobin`	`but as grammar goes`
`11:24.06`	`Wobin`	`"It sucks"`
`11:24.27`	`Wobin`	`as they say in Soviet Russia`
`11:25.38`	`Megalon`	`dissapate? isn't it dissipate?`
`11:27.23`	`Pkekyo\|`	`anyone know if fire resistance comes into play in Sunwell?`
`11:27.54`	`Lukian`	`solar resist? :D`
`11:28.04`	`Pkekyo\|`	`>.<`
`11:30.09`	`Bruners`	`how do you include itemlinks in a macro?`
`11:36.52`	`Recluse`	`Bruners: not sure if it truly works, but shift-click a link into a /script CreateMacro()'s text section? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateMacro`
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`11:40.07`	`Orionshock`	`tbh, i can't find a good reason to use doc`
`11:40.17`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`11:40.57`	`Fisker-`	`what is it?`
`11:41.38`	`Pkekyo\|`	`overrated, that's what Dock is`
`11:41.49`	`kebinusan`	`its shiney`
`11:41.57`	`kebinusan`	`shiney things attract people`
`11:42.22`	`Kazie`	`So i was kinda impressed or delighted or something about the new Estimated Healing in Pitbull.. however.. How do i change the colors and shit of the Estimated Healing?`
`11:42.44`	`Kazie`	`I tried looking into it.. but i couldn't find anything at all in Pitbull yesterday`
`11:42.57`	`kebinusan`	`I need to respec my friends priest from pvp for raiding, does this look proper? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZbxxcf0qVuc`
`11:43.17`	`Snago`	`Bruners: If that don't work try /script SendChatMessage("\124cffffffff\124Hitem:8952:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Roasted Quail]\124h\124r")`
`11:43.28`	`Kazie`	`You're missing Imp renew..`
`11:43.31`	`Orionshock`	`need a channle name`
`11:43.32`	`Kazie`	`15% going to waste there`
`11:44.39`	`Recluse`	`from the videos it looks like Dock would ruin my already horrid fps lol`
`11:44.41`	`Kazie`	`kebinusan: Holy reach is a waste.. as you do not have either Holy Nova or Circle of Healing, and you rarely use Prayer of Healing.`
`11:44.58`	`kebinusan`	`kazie yeah was looking at that`
`11:45.11`	`Codayus`	`Holy Reach is bad. Holy Spec is very poor. Spell Warding is very good.`
`11:45.35`	`Codayus`	`Although it depends what your raiding; more useful in higher content.`
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`11:46.24`	`Codayus`	`And if you are raiding 25 mans, and can reply on having someone else with Imp DS, a 20/41 build is better.`
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`11:46.45`	`kebinusan`	`yeah, we're short on holy priests, dont have anyone with imp ds atm, otherwise Id do 20/41`
`11:46.45`	`Kazie`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxrMzhxZfxxcc0qVuV i would use something similar to this`
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`11:47.33`	`Kazie`	`But i don't raid with a healing priest after TBC .. only shadow.. and my healer is a paladin ^^ .. so .... but i would deffinetly never take Prayer of Spirit.. as everyone has it.`
`11:48.10`	`Kazie`	`i have not yet been to a raid/Heroic with a priest that did not have Prayer of Spirit`
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`11:48.36`	`Codayus`	`A 21/41 build without CoH = /mock these days. It's very useful in T5+ content. Not so much in Kara.`
`11:48.41`	`Codayus`	`er, 20/41`
`11:48.59`	`kebinusan`	`Yeah Id take COH over lolwell`
`11:49.04`	`Codayus`	`And yeah, how common Imp DS is really depends on the guild.`
`11:49.45`	`Codayus`	`As a general rule the first priest with Imp DS is more valuable than a priest with CoH, but the second one is a waste.`
`11:49.46`	`kebinusan`	`we have zero holy priests atm due to real life and some people just not playing anymore`
`11:49.55`	`Codayus`	`nod Imp DS is good then.`
`11:50.20`	`Codayus`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfmxcc0qVuc`
`11:51.23`	`Codayus`	`However the lolwell point is optional. Could go in Holy Nova or be the 5th point in Spell Warding. And the Spell Warding points could go in Holy Spec, but I wouldn't do that unless your raiding T4 content.`
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`11:52.39`	`CIA-8`	`03kunda * r61131 10simpleMinimap/ (10 files in 2 dirs):`
`11:52.39`	`CIA-8`	`simpleMinimap:`
`11:52.40`	`CIA-8`	`- fixed MinimapNorthTag texture toggle`
`11:52.40`	`CIA-8`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:52.40`	`CIA-8`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:52.40`	`CIA-8`	`- UTF-8'd some files`
`11:52.41`	`kebinusan`	`yeah true enough`
`11:52.42`	`CIA-8`	`- deDE update`
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`11:58.37`	`Bruners`	`Snago: that last seems to work`
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`12:03.02`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what does it mean that an arenateam is ranked 0th?`
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`12:06.50`	`Bruners`	`Snago: what is the color code for epic items?`
`12:07.29`	`Megalon`	`Bruners: ffa335ee`
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`12:09.38`	`Grum`	`<kebinusan> yeah, we're short on holy priests, dont have anyone with imp ds atm, otherwise Id do 20/41 <-- divspi is not .. that .. great`
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`12:10.13`	`Grum`	`if you do the math you get about 200-300 raiddps more from it`
`12:10.22`	`Grum`	`which is peanuts on ~15k-20k`
`12:10.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Megalon: that the 'true' hex code?`
`12:10.59`	`kebinusan`	`sure but the extra spirit from ds benefits the raid as a whole`
`12:11.05`	`kebinusan`	`if you're going to get DS might as well get imp DS`
`12:11.28`	`Grum`	`kebinusan: its quite neglectable tbh`
`12:12.57`	`Snago`	`Pkekyo\|: The first ff is the alpha, so in standard rgb it would be a335ee`
`12:13.12`	`Pkekyo\|`	`bwahahahahah`
`12:13.12`	`Pkekyo\|`	`picture http://www.renegaderecon.com/images/articleimages/cawrevlaunch_01_rr.jpg with http://www.innovativetactical.com/catalog/images/lmt/6l284m9t17.jpg attached to it`
`12:13.20`	`Pkekyo\|`	`ah, that makes sense...cheers Snago`
`12:13.48`	`thul`	`hmm`
`12:13.48`	`Grum`	`Pkekyo\|: guns are for people with tiny penises`
`12:14.09`	`Pkekyo\|`	`if you say so`
`12:14.23`	`thul`	`pfft`
`12:14.25`	`thul`	`guns are great`
`12:14.29`	`thul`	`and I have an above average penis`
`12:14.31`	`thul`	`mkey?`
`12:14.33`	`thul`	`case closed.`
`12:14.33`	`thul`	`i won`
`12:14.44`	`Megalon`	`Big'Uns!`
`12:14.45`	`Pkekyo\|`	`haha`
`12:14.46`	`Grum`	`big guns are for people with have an odd number of chromosomes`
`12:15.05`	`Grum`	`which...`
`12:15.10`	`Grum`	`sigh .. l2typeenglish`
`12:15.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`"Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" "-yes..." :p`
`12:15.22`	`thul`	`Grum: wrong again`
`12:15.29`	`thul`	`go to your english class, leave us grown ups alone :-P`
`12:16.18`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Grum: I can agree with you on -one- point; people with Desert Eagles have small penises and an odd number of chromosomes`
`12:16.25`	`Fisker-`	`damn [Ammo]`
`12:16.35`	`Fisker-`	`i just shat bricks`
`12:16.58`	`Grum`	`as some wise soul has said before: The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?`
`12:17.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Fisker-: congrats?`
`12:17.32`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Grum: george carlin? sounds like george carlin. I bet it's george carlin`
`12:17.58`	`Grum`	`anyhow, usa is already solving itself`
`12:17.59`	`Pkekyo\|`	`also, not me nor thul are US citizens, so...meh :l`
`12:18.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`:p`
`12:18.05`	`Pkekyo\|`	`agreed`
`12:18.06`	`Grum`	`cant wait for that shit to implode on itself`
`12:18.29`	`Pkekyo\|`	`gonna be fun as hell to watch`
`12:18.45`	`thul`	`Grum: when did I live in america?`
`12:18.56`	`Grum`	`maybe you should`
`12:18.59`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|: it is either bill hicks or george carlin`
`12:19.01`	`thul`	`Grum: why?`
`12:19.07`	`thul`	`Grum: beacause you are a retarded asshat?`
`12:19.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://wowwebstats.com/flx5nlxzwi5ww?m so guys what do you think of my raid? D:`
`12:19.14`	`thul`	`NO, NO, NO captein retardius.`
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`12:20.11`	`Grum`	`sag_ich_nicht: not shabby`
`12:20.29`	`kebinusan`	`hm, been a long time since Ive seen a mage top a damage meter`
`12:20.30`	`Grum`	`just an odd order of doing bosses ;P`
`12:20.33`	`kebinusan`	`your locks on vacation?`
`12:20.41`	`kebinusan`	`wow only one rogue too`
`12:20.59`	`kebinusan`	`how is that an odd order?`
`12:21.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`so what you think thul? CAW + M203? :>`
`12:21.12`	`xyu`	`that's the normal order`
`12:21.13`	`xyu`	`imo`
`12:21.16`	`Grum`	`you have to kill way more thrash that way`
`12:21.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no you don't`
`12:21.26`	`kebinusan`	`not really no`
`12:21.27`	`xyu`	`which trash?`
`12:21.28`	`Grum`	`sigh you do`
`12:21.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I'd bet you could fit 4 M203s on there`
`12:21.43`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|: m82-a1 is my woc :-P`
`12:21.49`	`xyu`	`what trash is added by doing it that way?`
`12:21.58`	`thul`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28579 <- i want that`
`12:22.00`	`thul`	`:-(`
`12:22.11`	`Grum`	`trash upto leotheras from the lurker side`
`12:22.22`	`kebinusan`	`but you odnt have to clear the trash up to morogrim`
`12:22.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but you skill all of the trash to morogrim`
`12:22.23`	`Pkekyo\|`	`thul: barret?`
`12:22.25`	`kebinusan`	`from that side`
`12:22.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*skip`
`12:22.30`	`Grum`	`kebinusan: that is 1 pull`
`12:22.55`	`Grum`	`just one, you can skip the rest`
`12:23.00`	`kebinusan`	`more than one pull to get to morogrim from the lurker side`
`12:23.08`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|: yeah`
`12:23.21`	`Grum`	`no, just one pull (and the 4 fuckpacks of murlocs)`
`12:23.25`	`thul`	`seriously, shooting is meditation. It is the perfect way for me to get peace of mind.`
`12:23.27`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I'd say the random splash damage of CAW w/M203x4 would be more entertaining than the pinpoint precision of the lovely gorehound barret :p`
`12:23.32`	`Grum`	`but you need to kill those either way`
`12:23.40`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|:P`
`12:24.00`	`Pkekyo\|`	`got any gun licenses still thul? you should try to import a barret`
`12:24.13`	`Grum`	`so the leo first way you have to kill: 3packs and a boglord and possibly another boglord (the right one)`
`12:24.48`	`Grum`	`and the extra pack between karathress and morogrimm`
`12:24.56`	`Grum`	`(the one that despawns when you aggro him)`
`12:24.59`	`kebinusan`	`eh extra pack can be despawned`
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`12:25.13`	`kebinusan`	`we always have a rogue do that while we're doing loot`
`12:25.14`	`Grum`	`yup`
`12:25.30`	`Grum`	`still 2packs+boglord more :)`
`12:25.43`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|: mhm, got three`
`12:25.46`	`kebinusan`	`I guess I raid with too many idiots, they'd aggro something going that way`
`12:25.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`barrets or licenses? :p`
`12:25.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`also: pm`
`12:25.57`	`thul`	`licenses :-)`
`12:26.03`	`Pkekyo\|`	`any fun guns?`
`12:26.10`	`Grum`	`kebinusan: clearly`
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`12:26.23`	`Grum`	`you just need to kill the 2xmage,2xmelee pack`
`12:26.23`	`thul`	`Pkekyo\|: neh, shotgun, rifle and rifle.`
`12:26.28`	`thul`	`(.308 and 30-06)`
`12:26.35`	`thul`	`but I so want a .408 chey tac rifle :-P`
`12:26.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`:>`
`12:26.50`	`thul`	`or even a .338 lapua magnum would do`
`12:27.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`know anything of the differences/similarities between M14/M21? I've beent old they are more or less the same`
`12:27.46`	`Grum`	`so from start: 3 packs, 2 boglords, Hydross, 6 packs, Lurker, 5 packs Morogrim, 1 pack+4/5 boglords+1pack(patrol of 3) for Karathress`
`12:28.07`	`Pkekyo\|`	`nvm, I found out myself :>`
`12:28.08`	`Grum`	`then 6 or 7 packs before Leo`
`12:28.16`	`Grum`	`(been a long time ^^)`
`12:28.30`	`kebinusan`	`sounds about right`
`12:28.35`	`Pkekyo\|`	`want to get my hands on an M21 soo bad...soo purty :>`
`12:28.35`	`neenee`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:28.48`	`kebinusan`	`we tried skipping those couple pulls but always ran into more problems with accidental aggro than just clearing I guess`
`12:28.52`	`Grum`	`after that you can: jump through the hole in the wall @ leo and swim to vashj`
`12:29.09`	`kebinusan`	`yea`
`12:29.13`	`Grum`	`or to the second last lurker-clear-platform, walk up etc etc`
`12:29.19`	`kebinusan`	`technically you can wall walk to vashj`
`12:29.24`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`12:29.34`	`Grum`	`humz yeah never tried though`
`12:29.40`	`Grum`	`always had trash you could fall into ^^`
`12:29.47`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, and laugh at the people who fail`
`12:29.52`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`12:32.35`	`neenee`	`Does anyone know of a good alternative to Watchdog?`
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`12:34.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`neenee: your mom`
`12:34.34`	`Grum`	`yours is really soft on the inside`
`12:34.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's what she said`
`12:35.13`	`Grum`	`that is just twick and sisted!`
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`12:35.54`	`neenee`	`Have a nice day.`
`12:37.06`	`nevcairiel`	`vhaarr: kalecgos module, you have portal_message twice`
`12:38.05`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`12:38.30`	`Xinhuan`	`is that a working version using the new combat log events`
`12:38.45`	`nevcairiel`	`what point would a kalecgos module with old log have o.O`
`12:38.49`	`Xinhuan`	`hehe`
`12:38.58`	`Grum`	`kek`
`12:39.27`	`nevcairiel`	`altho CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH wont work anymore`
`12:40.09`	`Xinhuan`	`so my server (blackrock)`
`12:40.12`	`Xinhuan`	`hiccuped again`
`12:40.15`	`Xinhuan`	`we were doing supremus`
`12:40.22`	`Xinhuan`	`during the fight, server went into honor update`
`12:40.28`	`Xinhuan`	`we killed the boss`
`12:40.29`	`Xinhuan`	`then`
`12:40.34`	`Grum`	`lol`
`12:40.37`	`Grum`	`how long did it hook up?`
`12:40.42`	`Xinhuan`	`because its honor lagged, everyone who souldrained got stuck`
`12:40.49`	`Xinhuan`	`and i couldn't ML to anyone`
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`12:41.05`	`Xinhuan`	`about 10 minutes later, Bigwigs announced * Supremus has been defeated * and played the FF7 music`
`12:41.08`	`Xinhuan`	`it was funny.`
`12:41.12`	`Grum`	`kek`
`12:41.15`	`CIA-8`	`03rabbit * r61133 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Kalecgos: Fix portal messages.`
`12:41.19`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: are you raiding on the PTR?`
`12:41.31`	`nevcairiel`	`i went with some PUG yesterday`
`12:41.39`	`nevcairiel`	`my guild doesnt have enough people over yet`
`12:41.39`	`Grum`	`how easy was it?`
`12:41.41`	`nevcairiel`	`but we will`
`12:41.45`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`12:41.57`	`vhaarr`	`we really need logs and help testing + developing these modules`
`12:42.02`	`vhaarr`	`wish I had a ptr guild myself`
`12:42.15`	`nevcairiel`	`any new transcriptor?`
`12:42.21`	`vhaarr`	`trunk one works with 2.4`
`12:42.24`	`Xinhuan`	`i could help, when US copies are allowed LOL`
`12:42.26`	`nevcairiel`	`cool`
`12:42.30`	`Xinhuan`	`they are still disabled`
`12:42.41`	`vhaarr`	`silly`
`12:42.42`	`Xinhuan`	`i plan to organize a PTR raid for my guild sometime`
`12:42.51`	`Grum`	`we had the same idea`
`12:42.51`	`Xinhuan`	`but no copying is allowed yet`
`12:43.00`	`Grum`	`mm is it already on EU?`
`12:43.17`	`nevcairiel`	`EU was unlocked again`
`12:43.21`	`nevcairiel`	`but, its swamped`
`12:44.04`	`Grum`	`ah well we'll see later`
`12:44.08`	`Grum`	`most people will just take a look`
`12:44.10`	`Grum`	`and then not care :)`
`12:44.14`	`Grum`	`because all addons are broken ^^`
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`12:44.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i got my raid interface working so far`
`12:44.49`	`nevcairiel`	`only HotCandy doesnt work yet, i need to fix that .P`
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`12:47.56`	`CIA-8`	`03next96 * r61134 10BasicMinimap/ (BasicMinimap.toc Locales/koKR.lua):`
`12:47.56`	`CIA-8`	`BasicMinimap:`
`12:47.56`	`CIA-8`	`- Add locale koKR`
`12:51.27`	`Civrock`	`Wish somebody would fix Quartz' Swing.lua for 2.4. >_>`
`12:51.29`	`CIA-8`	`03kurax * r61135 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.cn.lua:`
`12:51.29`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`12:51.29`	`CIA-8`	`- zhCN update`
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`12:54.35`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: so there are only 3 new badge items in 2.4, those cloaks and the trinket?`
`12:54.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt see anymore`
`12:54.48`	`vhaarr`	`I only have a level 1 on ptr yet ><`
`12:54.51`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`12:55.10`	`vhaarr`	`I was under the impression they would be adding a full BT-quality item range`
`12:55.10`	`nevcairiel`	`plus they moved the stupid badge vendor, at first i thought he bugged and not there =P`
`12:55.16`	`vhaarr`	`ah lol`
`12:55.19`	`vhaarr`	`where is he now? :P`
`12:55.29`	`nevcairiel`	`a few feet above his old position`
`12:55.37`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`12:55.39`	`nevcairiel`	`on the balcony`
`12:55.40`	`vhaarr`	`on the upper circle?`
`12:55.42`	`JoshBorke`	`why?`
`12:55.43`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`12:55.43`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`12:55.46`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno`
`12:55.49`	`vhaarr`	`stupid`
`12:55.49`	`JoshBorke`	`that's dumb.`
`12:55.57`	`vhaarr`	`just to confuse people`
`12:56.21`	`vhaarr`	`1. General - [Legolasdude] Wear is epic guy lol`
`12:56.27`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`12:56.40`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure what the bluepost meant with full bt gear`
`12:56.47`	`nevcairiel`	`bt badge gear*`
`12:56.50`	`vhaarr`	`indeed, strange`
`12:57.06`	`vhaarr`	`perhaps they just haven't added it all yet, because it seems like there should be more`
`12:57.08`	`vhaarr`	`from that comment`
`12:57.13`	`nevcairiel`	`my guild has like 5 peopel over, cant oven create the guild yet, damn =P`
`12:58.31`	`Grum`	`is there already a list of t6 badge items?`
`12:58.39`	`Grum`	`oh`
`12:58.41`	`Grum`	`nevermind ><`
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`13:06.21`	`TNSe`	`lol`
`13:06.28`	`TNSe`	`the amount of retards playing this game never ceases to amaze me`
`13:06.34`	`TNSe`	`I add myself to lfg slave pens`
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`13:06.52`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`TNSe and?`
`13:07.03`	`TNSe`	`so a group forms, and when we're full they are like 'eh, you are too low level for mana tombs :P`
`13:07.10`	`TNSe`	`and remove me lol`
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`13:09.58`	`RaydenUni`	`morning`
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`13:12.06`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`13:12.06`	`CIA-8`	`- clean up`
`13:14.51`	`CIA-8`	`03pettigrow * r61137 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Faction: frFR Update`
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`13:15.15`	`CIA-8`	`03celellach * r61138 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:`
`13:15.15`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`13:15.15`	`CIA-8`	`- cleanup`
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`13:17.17`	`Yzomolo`	`Hi there. =) I want to write a smille addon which writes a message to the party chat after pulling a mob (mostly vi� the "shoot"-skill as a warrior). I assume that I should use some of the "global" events available, but which one? Is there something like "on skill usage" or "after dealing ranged damage" etc.?`
`13:17.44`	`vhaarr`	`Just put it in a macro.`
`13:18.01`	`thul`	`"shoot sleep 1 yell "i shot""`
`13:18.02`	`thul`	`:-P`
`13:18.04`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:18.16`	`Yzomolo`	`Yay, should be possible with only one thing to be said, but what if I want to use a longer list?`
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`13:20.57`	`cncfanatics`	`Yzomolo: the easyest way is to macro them all`
`13:21.03`	`cncfanatics`	`if not you could use the combatlog events`
`13:21.12`	`cncfanatics`	`but they are due to changingi n the next patch, so I'd at least recommend macros till then`
`13:21.40`	`cncfanatics`	`or you could use spellcast events`
`13:21.57`	`Yzomolo`	`Spellcast Events? Sounds good ... I'll check those, thanks. =)`
`13:22.07`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Spell Yzomolo`
`13:22.47`	`cncfanatics`	`SPELLCAST_START is probably the event you want`
`13:23.17`	`Yzomolo`	`Ah ... looks good, thank you. :>`
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`13:23.34`	`elusif`	`hi i changed my ui scale in video settings and it's great`
`13:23.40`	`cncfanatics`	`Yzomolo: never mind that last one`
`13:23.46`	`elusif`	`but some things in the ui like my action bar i want as small as possible`
`13:23.47`	`RaydenUni`	`hah`
`13:23.49`	`cncfanatics`	`SPELLCAST_START got removed in 2.0`
`13:23.56`	`elusif`	`but other things like characters avatars and the minimap i want big`
`13:24.00`	`RaydenUni`	`priestlyendeavours advocates kill farming in wsg for max honor/hourn`
`13:24.07`	`elusif`	`is there a mod that will let me change the size of individual things in the UI?`
`13:24.15`	`elusif`	`plx`
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`13:24.44`	`Yzomolo`	`cncfantics: Ah :/`
`13:25.00`	`renchap`	`:q`
`13:25.03`	`renchap`	`oops`
`13:25.20`	`Yzomolo`	`Well, I'm actually able to register the event o_O`
`13:25.20`	`CIA-8`	`03pettigrow * r61139 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: Added Magisters' Terrace bosses`
`13:25.46`	`Maldivia`	`Yzomolo: you want the UNIT_SPELL_* versions instead`
`13:25.46`	`cncfanatics`	`Yzomolo: you are able to register the event WOWACE if you want to`
`13:25.50`	`cncfanatics`	`it'll just never trigger`
`13:26.16`	`RaydenUni`	`there are dps and healing leather craft sets but no tanking?`
`13:26.17`	`Yzomolo`	`I see :(`
`13:26.23`	`cncfanatics`	`UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is the event you want`
`13:26.49`	`cncfanatics`	`it triggers for everyone in the party though`
`13:26.52`	`Yzomolo`	`Then it is something like UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED(self, shoot)?`
`13:26.54`	`cncfanatics`	`so make sure the unit is the player`
`13:27.03`	`Yzomolo`	`self = player ^^,`
`13:27.09`	`cncfanatics`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:27.15`	`xlvii`	`elusif, you could totally change your action bars using an AddOn like Bartender3`
`13:27.24`	`Maldivia`	`Yzomolo: if unit == "player" and spell == "Shoot" then ...`
`13:27.48`	`cncfanatics`	`indeed, suposing you call the first arg unit`
`13:27.50`	`cncfanatics`	`and the second one spell :)`
`13:27.51`	`elusif`	`ty guys i'll look into it`
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`13:28.12`	`Yzomolo`	`Nice one! Thank you cnc and Maldivia! :)`
`13:28.22`	`Maldivia`	`cnc: hehe, yeah, ofcourse :9`
`13:28.25`	`Yzomolo`	`I'll play around a little bit with that. :>`
`13:28.52`	`cncfanatics`	`np Yzomolo`
`13:28.53`	`Maldivia`	`cnc: select(1, ...)=="player" and select(2, ...) == "Shoot" then... better ? :)`
`13:29.10`	`cncfanatics`	`too much function calls tbh`
`13:29.19`	`cncfanatics`	`and you forgot the if statement :D`
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`13:29.31`	`Maldivia`	`baah... I'll go back to my Java isntead`
`13:29.46`	`cncfanatics`	`good girl`
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`13:39.35`	`CIA-8`	`03kurax * r61140 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.cn.lua:`
`13:39.35`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`13:39.35`	`CIA-8`	`- zhCN update`
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`13:43.52`	`Paradox`	`ace addon that lets you move / scale the minimap icons away from minimap frame?`
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`13:49.02`	`Recluse`	`Paradox: dunno, but i got suggested FluidFrames and couldn't be happier (cosmos[i think] standalone mod)`
`13:49.27`	`Paradox`	`i'm using that right now actually, but I can't stand when I accidentally move frames around`
`13:49.32`	`Paradox`	`and there's no way to lock unsaved movement`
`13:50.34`	`Recluse`	`well, i bind it to a key i don't use, move the frame, then lock/save it there and then unbind the key and never had an accidental move after that`
`13:51.06`	`Paradox`	`every frame can be dragged around the screen though`
`13:52.34`	`Recluse`	`you sure it's not just that(those) particular addon(s) that can be moved? i honestly haven't had any accidental movement personally, but i suppose i could be wrong hehe`
`13:53.15`	`Paradox`	`i'm sure`
`13:53.29`	`Paradox`	`for example NPC talk frames can be moved`
`13:53.33`	`Paradox`	`the Escape menu`
`13:53.39`	`Paradox`	`(which DOES save!)`
`13:53.58`	`Paradox`	`my minimap is locked (with SimpleMinimap) and yet sometimes I manage to move it with 'unsaved movement' and have to reposition it`
`13:54.42`	`Recluse`	`i use simpleminimap, but i have lock minimap checked in the menu, and i can't drag it...`
`13:55.16`	`Paradox`	`I can't normally either`
`13:55.31`	`Paradox`	`but somehow in the middle of arena or something I manage to drag it to the center of my screen`
`13:56.17`	`Recluse`	`D= lol`
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`13:57.50`	`Yzomolo`	`Hi there, again. :> How can I use special characters vi� Ace? Seems that I'm currently not able to trigger a certain event because the skill name's got special characters in it.`
`13:58.58`	`Xinhuan`	`why not?`
`13:59.11`	`Snago`	`Yzomolo: Are you sure that's the reason? Tried with another skill?`
`14:00.20`	`Zariel`	`If a fontstring is 14pt what height in px is that? 14?`
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`14:02.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`BLARBLARBLAR`
`14:03.46`	`xlvii`	`does anyone know if p3lim comes on irc?`
`14:03.50`	`Yzomolo`	`Oki, just tested it again. :) \| if unit == "player" and spell == "Blutrausch" then self:Print("Bla") end \| works without a problem; \| if unit == "player" and spell == "Schie�en" then self:Print("Bla") end \| doesn't work. :/`
`14:03.58`	`Olison`	`~seen p3lim`
`14:03.59`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'p3lim', Olison`
`14:04.01`	`Shirik`	`because`
`14:04.05`	`Olison`	`no, he doesn't`
`14:04.12`	`Shirik`	`Yzomolo, what editor are you using to do this?`
`14:04.13`	`Zariel`	`~seen pelim`
`14:04.14`	`purl`	`Zariel: i haven't seen 'pelim'`
`14:04.17`	`Zhinjio`	`Zariel: yes. font size is defined as the number of pixels (points) from the ascender to the baseline of the font (it excludes descenders)`
`14:04.27`	`Yzomolo`	`Currently just WordPad.`
`14:04.29`	`Shirik`	`bad idea`
`14:04.37`	`Shirik`	`go get scite, make sure it's configured to use UTF-8 encoding`
`14:04.56`	`Shirik`	`if you don't, your editor and WoW may disagree on the encoding, and Lua does not know how to handle multibyte characters`
`14:05.00`	`Ozguli`	`NoteTabLight used to be my favourite when I still was interested in such things`
`14:05.07`	`Shirik`	`so while two characters might be the thing, Lua doesn't know that`
`14:05.09`	`Shirik`	`and assumes they aren't`
`14:05.14`	`Yzomolo`	`Ah, I see. Thank you! I'll try it. =)`
`14:05.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`or any other editor that handles UTF-8 with a BOM`
`14:05.26`	`Recluse`	`Zariel: iirc, pt refers to size, and thus can be any of several pixels in size, depending on your resolution? but i've no clue, tbh :p`
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`14:05.36`	`Zariel`	`<3 vim`
`14:06.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`actually, vim shows the BOM for, instead of handling it correctly :<`
`14:06.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`*for me`
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`14:06.27`	`Zhinjio`	`yes, font sizes, just like everything else in the game, are subject to your scaling factors`
`14:06.34`	`Zhinjio`	`14pt = 14pixels if your scaling is 1.0`
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`14:07.01`	`Shirik`	`hmmm`
`14:07.03`	`Shirik`	`I wouldn't say that`
`14:07.19`	`Shirik`	`there's other factors involved`
`14:07.48`	`Yzomolo`	`Just tried to save it with Notepad and UTF-8 encoding and it works - thank you very much! =D`
`14:07.54`	`Shirik`	`np :)`
`14:07.57`	`Shirik`	`btw`
`14:08.12`	`Shirik`	`You may desire to look up the UTF8 encoding for those characters and save them directly`
`14:08.20`	`Shirik`	`i.e., something like "\124\245" or whatever it is`
`14:08.26`	`Shirik`	`(completely pulled that out of my ass)`
`14:08.55`	`Shirik`	`that will ensure you won't run into this problem in the future if someone changes the encoding`
`14:09.14`	`Yzomolo`	`Yay, sounds good. I'll then look those special characters up I need. =)`
`14:10.20`	`Shirik`	`You can have wow look them up for you with the script: t = ""; for s in ("thatfunnysymbol"):gmatch(".") do t=t.."\\"..string.byte(s) end DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(t)`
`14:10.31`	`Shirik`	`sorry I can't type that symbol`
`14:11.53`	`Yzomolo`	`No problem! I'll try that, thanks!`
`14:12.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`just make sure you keep the file UTF-8 and it will work fine, mutilate anyone who messes up the encoding ;)`
`14:12.44`	`Yzomolo`	`\195\159 it is. :>`
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`14:13.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`Yzomolo: ä: \195\164ö: \195\182ü: \195\188Ä: \195\132Ö: \195\150Ü: \195\156ß: \195\159`
`14:13.15`	`Shirik`	`lua> print("\195\159")`
`14:13.15`	`lua_bot`	`Shirik: ß`
`14:13.18`	`Shirik`	`seems right`
`14:13.58`	`Yzomolo`	`Yay. =D`
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`14:25.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`phew, we're on such a roll lately (compared to ourselves some weeks ago) that I can't keep up posting the killshots ;D`
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`14:25.38`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r61141 10/branches/HandyNotes/: HandyNotes: Create folder.`
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`14:27.10`	`Hjalte`	`Hmm, I take it they didnt add the guy that gives you quick acces to Caverns of Time from SC yet on the PTR?`
`14:27.12`	`Olison`	`yay Xinhuan :)`
`14:27.18`	`RaydenUni`	`would you guys want wotlk to come out today?`
`14:27.24`	`RaydenUni`	`or a week from today?`
`14:28.08`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61142 10HandyNotes/ (15 files in 3 dirs): HandyNotes: Drycode import of core stub functions`
`14:28.17`	`Baldor_work`	`I have a small question. I know there are some editors that make browsing and editing lua files easier then notepad ;) I found the wowwike page about them, but most seem to have lost support some time ago. Any suggestions to an easy to understand lua editor?`
`14:28.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`Hjalte: he's there, I think`
`14:28.28`	`Maldivia`	`Hjalte: he should be there, first floor, requires exalted CoT rep`
`14:28.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`changed down to revered`
`14:28.51`	`Hjalte`	`First floor of what?`
`14:28.54`	`Kivin`	`Baldor_work: notepad++ works for me`
`14:30.02`	`Maldivia`	`Baldor_work: agree with Kivin, for Windows, Notepad++ is a nice editor... if more of the console type, there's always VIM :)`
`14:30.15`	`Baldor_work`	`alright, i'll check it out`
`14:30.18`	`Baldor_work`	`thanks!`
`14:30.19`	`[SW]Dodge`	`Baldor_work: i use wxLuaEdit it contains a mini lua shell like lua_bot :)`
`14:31.30`	`Baldor_work`	`i can form a vague idea about what a mini lua shell would be, but i have no idea what lua_bot is ;)`
`14:31.40`	`Baldor_work`	`yea.. wish me luck`
`14:31.42`	`Kivin`	`lua> print("This is a mini lua shell")`
`14:31.53`	`Kivin`	`...`
`14:32.00`	`Kivin`	`he isn't here :P`
`14:32.05`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61143 10HandyNotes/ (. Libs/): HandyNotes: Setup folder properties and externals.`
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`14:35.49`	`Worf`	`hello - just tested the new grid healbar ... cool stuff ... however, since i'm a druid i'm wondering: what do you recommend to visualise incoming heals by hots?`
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`14:50.43`	`cladhaire`	`Worf: thats being worked on in the same library`
`14:50.49`	`cladhaire`	`it'll show you what you expect to tick by the time you get your heal off`
`14:50.52`	`cladhaire`	`but its not implemented yet`
`14:50.57`	`cladhaire`	`when it is, you'll see it in the same way :P`
`14:51.00`	`Bruners`	`!points 775`
`14:51.01`	`Xinhuan`	`775 arena points require 1809(5s), 1878(3s) and 1974(2s) team rating.`
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`15:00.26`	`Worf`	`cladhaire: that's great news! lot's of great news in the last months ... pet support for grid is in ... etc ...`
`15:00.46`	`cladhaire`	`Worf: aye, just need to be patient for xbeeps to work on it.. he's doing a bang on job at the moment`
`15:00.50`	`cladhaire`	`i'm adding support in perfectraid`
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`15:03.07`	`Worf`	`hmm there is a screenshot of maia on the grid forum .... i wonder what that bar is ... looks like castbar with health showing or so`
`15:03.10`	`Worf`	`http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7664/gridhealswh0.jpg`
`15:03.25`	`Worf`	`anyonw knows what that is?`
`15:04.03`	`Snago`	`Worf: Isn't that VisualHeal?`
`15:04.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's visual heal`
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`15:06.25`	`Worf`	`looks good ... gotta test ...`
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`15:37.28`	`what-K`	`hi all`
`15:37.37`	`what-K`	`Kivin u are here ? i have a question`
`15:40.26`	`Kivin`	`what-K: pong`
`15:40.32`	`what-K`	`:D`
`15:40.54`	`what-K`	`i have your spam guard installed but i get mass spam in chan 1 or 2`
`15:41.02`	`kagaro`	`anyone one the ptr, messing with the combat log stuff got a minute?`
`15:41.28`	`Kivin`	`hrm, i don't get any spam in my /1 or /2, so it's difficult to debug. have you tried /sg and made sure general and trade are checked in the dialog?`
`15:41.46`	`what-K`	`yes`
`15:41.59`	`Kivin`	`is it the same crap that ends up in /say and emote?`
`15:42.06`	`what-K`	`i use the german client can that be the mistake ?`
`15:42.12`	`Kivin`	`spamguard isn't intended to stop flooders, just solicitors`
`15:42.17`	`Kivin`	`very probably`
`15:42.25`	`what-K`	`yes so 1000g f�r 14$`
`15:42.25`	`Kivin`	`are the spam messages in german?`
`15:42.36`	`Kivin`	`okay, there's the problem, i've never been able to localize it`
`15:42.46`	`Kivin`	`if you want to put filters in, i can show you how`
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`15:43.10`	`what-K`	`im very bad in wow scripting :(`
`15:43.25`	`Kivin`	`:)`
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`15:43.56`	`what-K`	`plz help me :D`
`15:44.05`	`Kivin`	`just a sec`
`15:44.09`	`what-K`	`fu.. gold spammer :D`
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`15:46.50`	`Kivin`	`what-K: any chance you can copy & paste the entire spam message?`
`15:47.07`	`what-K`	`no :( but i can up a screen`
`15:47.31`	`Kivin`	`danke`
`15:47.37`	`what-K`	`bitte`
`15:47.38`	`what-K`	`:D`
`15:47.41`	`Kivin`	`xD`
`15:49.03`	`what-K`	`http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8746/wowscrnshot021308164415qg1.jpg`
`15:49.08`	`what-K`	`here plz`
`15:49.28`	`Kivin`	`Ich danke Ihnen sehr`
`15:49.38`	`what-K`	`no problem`
`15:52.44`	`CIA-8`	`03kivin * r61144 10KivinSpamGuard/rules/ (english.lua german.lua):`
`15:52.44`	`CIA-8`	`KivinSpamGuard:`
`15:52.44`	`CIA-8`	`- Added deDE locale (credit to what-K #wowace).`
`15:52.58`	`Kivin`	`what-K: 20 minutes or less, WAU will be updated.`
`15:53.03`	`what-K`	`thx`
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`15:53.14`	`Kivin`	`I only added that one message. You can add more yourself in file "german.lua"`
`15:53.24`	`Kivin`	`see files "english.lua" and "german.lua" and just follow the pattern`
`15:53.27`	`what-K`	`ok i will do it when i see more spam`
`15:53.41`	`Kivin`	`or catch me here, or mail me at kivinsan@gmail.com`
`15:54.40`	`calaveraDeluxe`	`what-K: wich unitframes do you use? the look nice :)`
`15:54.51`	`what-K`	`x-perl`
`15:55.11`	`what-K`	`Kivin when im here i will spam u then ;D`
`15:55.29`	`calaveraDeluxe`	`kk`
`15:55.45`	`calaveraDeluxe`	`is that a standard skin?`
`15:56.38`	`what-K`	`yes`
`15:57.50`	`calaveraDeluxe`	`cool, danke :)`
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`15:58.17`	`what-K`	`kein problem`
`15:58.41`	`kenlyric`	`could gathermate ever be smart enough to only show gathering nodes you have the skill to pick?`
`15:59.34`	`Kivin`	`sounds feasable`
`16:00.00`	`kenlyric`	`i'd be happy if the blizzard tracker could do that too.`
`16:00.06`	`Kivin`	`that's something that bugs the crap out of me with cart_*.`
`16:00.15`	`Kivin`	`i get flooded with stuff i can't use`
`16:00.33`	`Josh_Borke`	`Elkano: ping`
`16:02.52`	`CIA-8`	`03arith * r61145 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):`
`16:02.52`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:02.52`	`CIA-8`	`- zhTW update`
`16:02.52`	`CIA-8`	`03arith * r61146 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.tw.lua:`
`16:02.52`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`16:02.53`	`CIA-8`	`- zhTW update`
`16:03.09`	`Baldor_work`	`postman gives an error that the library acehook-2.1 doesn't exist. any suggestions?`
`16:04.08`	`kagaro`	`kenlyric: use a filter`
`16:04.17`	`kenlyric`	`yes, I know I can do that`
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`16:07.24`	`Yelsira`	`does anyone know how I can contact a mod-developer called Johnny?`
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`16:11.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Baldor_work: kill yourself`
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`16:12.59`	`Baldor_work`	`im not an hero`
`16:13.14`	`haste`	`excellent answer`
`16:13.16`	`Recluse`	`ffs >.> any simplistic addons out there i could examine to understand all the registerforclicks and securefunc stuffs? the whole thing confuses me`
`16:14.07`	`Kivin`	`RegisterForClicks just specifies what mouse clicks your button recieves`
`16:14.18`	`Kivin`	`RegisterForClicks("LeftButton", "RightButtonUp")`
`16:14.34`	`Recluse`	`right, and then i drop in an OnClick handler which has basically if button = right/left do something`
`16:14.44`	`Recluse`	`but if the something is a spell...`
`16:14.46`	`cladhaire`	`Recluse: not with secure templates`
`16:14.54`	`cladhaire`	`you just set attribtues that tell teh system what you want your clicks to do`
`16:14.56`	`cladhaire`	`for example`
`16:15.09`	`Kivin`	`:SetAttribute("type1", "spell")`
`16:15.10`	`cladhaire`	`PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("shift-type1", "spell")`
`16:15.16`	`Elkano`	`Josh_Borke: pong`
`16:15.27`	`cladhaire`	`PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("shift-spell1", "Flash Heal")`
`16:15.51`	`Recluse`	`hrm`
`16:16.16`	`Recluse`	`will i still need a hooksecurefunc()?`
`16:16.20`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`16:16.25`	`cladhaire`	`you just set attributes`
`16:16.38`	`cladhaire`	`furthermore`
`16:16.39`	`cladhaire`	`don't set an OnClick`
`16:16.42`	`cladhaire`	`or OnLoad handler`
`16:16.51`	`cladhaire`	`i think you can get away with an OnLoad in this case, but better to not.`
`16:17.41`	`cladhaire`	`uhh k`
`16:17.42`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: The way you're thinking of casting spells is with the CastSpell(...) api. That's forbidden do to taint.`
`16:17.55`	`Recluse`	`ah`
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`16:20.13`	`Kivin`	`Recluse: http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview`
`16:20.27`	`cladhaire`	`or look in SecureTemplates.lua`
`16:20.31`	`cladhaire`	`we spent a lot of time working on those comments.`
`16:20.38`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz: i modified my local sRF to not error if LibHealComm is not present, but just disable that feature. Do i have to keep it as a local modified thing, or can i commit that ? =P`
`16:20.55`	`Kivin`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:21.08`	`Saroz`	`show diff`
`16:21.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nevcairiel: or you could just use healcomm :P`
`16:21.27`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`16:21.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and you know`
`16:21.53`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz: http://ace.pastey.net/82124`
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`16:21.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`be helpful to the other healers in your raid that might use visualheal or similar`
`16:22.12`	`Saroz`	`nevcairiel, gogo`
`16:22.15`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont believe in the principle of healcomm or visualheal or anything`
`16:23.07`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel * r61147 10sRaidFrames/ (3 files): sRaidFrames: LibHealComm is now optional`
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`16:23.36`	`Josh_Borke`	`Elkano: did you write LibSharedMedia-2.0?`
`16:23.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nevcairiel why?`
`16:23.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nevcairiel: you like to have your healers do unneeded overheal?`
`16:23.57`	`Saroz`	`nevcairiel, just a matter of time before blizzard allows it for tracking`
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`16:24.12`	`nevcairiel`	`sag_ich_nicht: you're a troll, i dont feel like explaining anything to you`
`16:24.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nevcairiel well that's too bad`
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`16:24.57`	`dylanm`	`What's nev want?`
`16:25.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's for judging a book by it's cover.`
`16:25.25`	`Josh_Borke`	`dylanm: nev wanted to make LibHealComm optional in an addon`
`16:25.35`	`Megalon`	`sag_ich_nicht: it's often bad to hear the truth ;)`
`16:25.51`	`nevcairiel`	`not only wanted, i even did it :P`
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`16:26.46`	`nevcairiel`	`who behaves like a troll should expect to be judged like one, and yeah, thats whats the text on the back of the cover is for, i cant read the book before buying it, or can i?`
`16:27.18`	`Recluse`	`what's with the "1" in :SetAttribute("type1", type)? is that a reference to the mouse button?`
`16:27.24`	`nevcairiel`	`yes`
`16:27.28`	`Josh_Borke`	`i'm personally a fan of making libraries optional`
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`16:28.37`	`Kivin`	`the attribute name can be in the format "attrib", "modifier-attrib", "attribN" where N is a button number, "attrib-groupName" where groupName corresponds to other attributes with the same pattern`
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`16:28.43`	`Kivin`	`or any combination of them`
`16:28.49`	`kenlyric`	`well, if they're optional, they should be optional`
`16:28.55`	`kenlyric`	`seems like common sense to me...`
`16:29.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`nevcairiel: he's as annoying as they come, anyway ^^`
`16:29.51`	`Recluse`	`kk, just wondering, from reading the wowwiki stuff it wasn't clear about the purpose of the integer there :)`
`16:31.18`	`Ozguli`	`Spore's release date announced!`
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`16:32.34`	`Ozguli`	`actually it's not, they just say it'll be ready in a few months`
`16:32.47`	`Snago`	`Ozguli: What is Spore?`
`16:32.48`	`Recluse`	`haha! ty all, i got it all figured out now =3`
`16:32.58`	`Ozguli`	`Snago you don't know?`
`16:33.02`	`Snago`	`no`
`16:33.08`	`Snago`	`that's why I asked`
`16:33.09`	`Ozguli`	`www.spore.com`
`16:33.45`	`nevcairiel`	`an EA thing, has to be crap :P`
`16:33.59`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61148 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.tw.lua:`
`16:33.59`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:33.59`	`CIA-8`	`- Cleanup`
`16:34.07`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61149 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`16:34.07`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`16:34.07`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell update`
`16:34.07`	`Ozguli`	`don't judge by the label`
`16:34.46`	`Elkano`	`Josh_Borke: no, I worte 3.0`
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`16:37.49`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61150 10AtlasLoot/Instances/ (4 files):`
`16:37.49`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:37.49`	`CIA-8`	`- files are not needed anymore`
`16:38.21`	`Elkano`	`of those commiting/cleaning up AtlasLoot, is there anyone here in IRC?`
`16:39.44`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61151 10AtlasLoot/WorldBosses/ (5 files):`
`16:39.44`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:39.44`	`CIA-8`	`- files are not needed anymore`
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`16:41.17`	`Recluse`	`curious (don't need it, but...) - attributes that can take a string can be sent a variable or no?`
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`16:42.08`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61152 10BasicMinimap/Locales/deDE.lua: BasicMinimap: fix deDE`
`16:42.12`	`nevcairiel`	`anything can be created by a variable`
`16:43.53`	`Fisker-`	`<obligatory your mother statement>`
`16:44.23`	`Elkano`	`NO YOURS!`
`16:44.42`	`Fisker-`	`NO U`
`16:44.43`	`Recluse`	`hrm, i suppose i'll have to experiment with it to be sure if it allows cool things to be done, but seems like it :p`
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`17:03.56`	`Kivin`	`oh noes :( Cenarion circle is down`
`17:04.15`	`ckknight`	`you play on CC?`
`17:04.18`	`Kivin`	`yeah`
`17:04.23`	`ckknight`	`Ally or Horde?`
`17:04.25`	`Kivin`	`both`
`17:04.28`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`17:04.33`	`ckknight`	`I play Ally`
`17:04.34`	`Kivin`	`64 rogue nelf, 3x 70 horde`
`17:04.41`	`Kivin`	`really? what guild are you affiliated with?`
`17:04.41`	`Grum`	`Kivin: just say: 'and with myself' .. tssk nub`
`17:04.53`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: Southsea Buccaneers`
`17:05.04`	`Kivin`	`Hmm there's someone else in this channel with the SSB`
`17:05.12`	`Stanzilla`	`Antiarc :p`
`17:05.15`	`Kivin`	`yeah, thought so`
`17:05.40`	`Kivin`	`I'm Siddin of <Surreal> and Basolisu, Omeray, and Azurogar of the horde`
`17:06.12`	`ckknight`	`Stanzilla: he's my guild leader`
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`17:06.35`	`Kivin`	`weird that i never knew you were a cenarion circler, too. small word, i guess.`
`17:06.36`	`Elsia`	`heyas`
`17:06.39`	`Kivin`	`s/word/world/`
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`17:06.51`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: I joined because my realm sucked and Antiarc's seemed good`
`17:07.05`	`ckknight`	`prolly still asleep sigh`
`17:07.13`	`Kivin`	`Heh sorry to say, CC is the arse end of WoW`
`17:07.27`	`nevcairiel`	`blizzard should really remove all those lvl 1 corspes on the sunwell island :(`
`17:07.55`	`ckknight`	`Kivin: I think it's alright`
`17:08.17`	`Kivin`	`Just too small... impossible (horde side, at least) to find anything to do`
`17:08.33`	`Kivin`	`Even the heroic dailies are empty queues all day and all night`
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`17:08.56`	`ckknight`	`that's why I play on alliance side`
`17:09.07`	`Elsia`	`i wish that the EU ptr queue finally cleared up, still no successful copy for me :(`
`17:09.16`	`Kivin`	`i spent an hour on my 44 nelf drood this morn, but alliance in general bothers me.`
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`17:11.20`	`aestil`	`i love my female gnome rogue with a behive.`
`17:11.30`	`Kivin`	`rogues are... uggh`
`17:11.38`	`Kivin`	`gnomes are teh yuck`
`17:12.31`	`Recluse`	`ok, if i have a secure button and want to put it in a parent frame, the parent has to be secure as well, or does it matter?`
`17:12.51`	`Kivin`	`shouldn't matter, me thinks`
`17:13.00`	`Recluse`	`k`
`17:13.31`	`Kivin`	`CC down again =/`
`17:13.59`	`nevcairiel`	`a parent will automatically be secured once it has a secure child`
`17:14.15`	`aestil`	`i need a child that's secure then! I want to be secure.`
`17:14.36`	`Recluse`	`interesting`
`17:14.40`	`aestil`	`I am baffled that this herbie hancock cd won album of the year.`
`17:15.41`	`Elsia`	`the tina turner number is pretty awesome. never knew she could sing :P`
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`17:17.17`	`aestil`	`how is a cover album basically 'best album of the year'`
`17:17.24`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r61153 10/branches/HandyNotes_FlightMasters/: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Create another folder!`
`17:17.29`	`haste`	`which album is?`
`17:17.31`	`aestil`	`either they are crazy, or they really think kanye and amy winehouse are crappy.`
`17:17.48`	`haste`	`the best album of 2007 is clearly BT - This binary universe`
`17:17.54`	`haste`	`or Daft Punks Alive 2007 :p`
`17:18.01`	`Kivin`	`heh`
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`17:18.17`	`kenlyric_`	`kanye and amy are crappy`
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`17:18.39`	`kenlyric_`	`but it's the grammies. they aren't really good at the music thing.`
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`17:22.29`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61154 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/ (. HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua HandyNotes_FlightMasters.toc): HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Sample plugin to HandyNotes`
`17:22.29`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61155 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Update code to working status.`
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`17:23.34`	`Kivin`	`!ap 1500`
`17:23.34`	`ThraeBot`	`Kivin: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 261, 3v3: 302, 5v5: 344`
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`17:29.35`	`syeren`	`ckknight, are you working on LibHealComm?`
`17:29.47`	`ckknight`	`no`
`17:29.53`	`syeren`	`Just noticed a bug in it ;p`
`17:29.59`	`syeren`	`Doesn't like Prayer of Healing :p`
`17:30.36`	`nevcairiel`	`Hm i wonder if its author is on irc`
`17:30.38`	`Ozguli`	`me neither but sometimes it just has to be used`
`17:30.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt recognize the name`
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`17:40.36`	`CIA-8`	`037destiny * r61156 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua):`
`17:40.36`	`CIA-8`	`BigWigs:`
`17:40.36`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell: koKR update :p`
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`17:48.49`	`chiper`	`is US character copy online yet?`
`17:50.38`	`Hjalte`	`My warlock got transfered a few days ago :)`
`17:51.22`	`Elsia`	`it claims to have transfered 2 of my chars but they never arrived and the queue for copies is full for days now.. so no cookie for me`
`17:51.41`	`keiss`	`Elsia: yeah they resseted it at some point ,u need to transfer again`
`17:51.55`	`Elsia`	`it's massively annoying for recount testing :/`
`17:52.07`	`nevcairiel`	`EU Copys where reset yesterday morning, anything that was supposed to be copied before that, but never arrived, got wiped`
`17:52.07`	`Elsia`	`basically I leveled a warlock to level 7 :P`
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`17:52.47`	`Elsia`	`but I need to test hunter pets and shaman totems... those are the two I tried to copy.. but it won't even let me select copies now since queues are always full`
`17:53.46`	`cncfanatics`	`Elsia: shamans get totem at lvl 4`
`17:53.50`	`cncfanatics`	`and hunters get pets at 10`
`17:53.52`	`cncfanatics`	`that ain't much work`
`17:54.43`	`Elsia`	`more work than copying ;)`
`17:55.06`	`Twist-`	`Elsia: But less elapsed time than waiting for copies to open.`
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`17:55.40`	`Elsia`	`I kind of settled to use the waiting to to code, and hope that others test... better time spend than leveling a hunter to 10`
`17:55.55`	`Elsia`	`no copy is basically an annoyance and inconvenience`
`17:56.14`	`Elsia`	`I'm seriously not going to spend 2 hours leveling a hunter just to test`
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`17:59.04`	`Recluse`	`=3 yay for baby steps in creating frames via lua`
`17:59.11`	`CIA-8`	`03whitetooth * r61157 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua:`
`17:59.11`	`CIA-8`	`TipHookerLib:`
`17:59.11`	`CIA-8`	`- Hook SetMerchantCostItem`
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`18:11.13`	`Elsia`	`lua> bit.and(1,2)`
`18:11.13`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "bit.and(1,2)"]:1: '<name>' expected near 'and'`
`18:12.41`	`Elsia`	`lua> bit.band(1,2)`
`18:12.41`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: 0,`
`18:13.01`	`CIA-8`	`03joshborke * r61158 10MD5Lib/ (6 files in 3 dirs): MD5Lib: updated to LibStub and removed AceLibrary stuff`
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`18:14.10`	`CIA-8`	`03kaelten * r61159 10cgProfiler/npcs/npcs.lua: cgProfiler: fixes and support for heroic modes`
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`18:21.41`	`Paradox`	`are there any decent addons that change the group roll need/greed frames?`
`18:22.07`	`chiper`	`change them how?`
`18:22.45`	`Paradox`	`make them smaller maybe able to move them around`
`18:22.48`	`Paradox`	`etc`
`18:23.53`	`chiper`	`fluidframes can do that`
`18:24.14`	`Snago`	`I use XLoot with XLootGroup`
`18:24.25`	`Recluse`	`hehe, i <3 my FluidFrames`
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`18:31.02`	`CIA-8`	`03pettigrow * r61160 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (BigWigs_Sunwell.toc Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update`
`18:31.26`	`Paradox`	`screw fluid frames!`
`18:31.44`	`chiper`	`o.O`
`18:32.18`	`Recluse`	`lol. don't like it?`
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`18:36.00`	`NeoTron`	`Last night our moonkin was 4th dos on Winterchill doing 1563 DPS. she's come a long way from when we first recruited her :)`
`18:37.05`	`NeoTron`	`on Naj'entus she was 5th and our ret pally 6th :P`
`18:37.19`	`NeoTron`	`who says alt specs can't kick ass except those who play with bad ones..`
`18:37.20`	`chiper`	`you guys have an active boomkin raiding?`
`18:37.55`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r61161 10AckisRecipeList/ (Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua):`
`18:37.55`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`18:37.55`	`CIA-8`	`- Added fishing daily to enUS`
`18:37.55`	`CIA-8`	`- Added Captain Rumsey's Lager to cooking list`
`18:38.01`	`chiper`	`heh, my guild wont even let a boomkin into kara`
`18:38.36`	`NeoTron`	`chiper: we do. we farm illidan`
`18:38.49`	`NeoTron`	`and, obviously, a ret pally`
`18:39.13`	`chiper`	`how does she fair on threat?`
`18:39.25`	`NeoTron`	`this winterchill she was close to maxing out`
`18:39.31`	`NeoTron`	`but winterchill is a hard fight, threat-wise`
`18:40.29`	`NeoTron`	`I find it ironic when people "ban" a speck from... karazhan`
`18:40.34`	`NeoTron`	`s/speck/spec/`
`18:40.39`	`NeoTron`	`that clearly works in BT/Hyjal`
`18:40.54`	`chiper`	`guild master hates boomkin`
`18:41.01`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61162 10AtlasLoot/PvP/ (5 files):`
`18:41.01`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`18:41.01`	`CIA-8`	`- files are not needed anymore`
`18:42.00`	`chiper`	`mostely because of the high threat and lack of diversity compared to feral`
`18:42.05`	`NeoTron`	`maybe one ate his mother or something`
`18:42.28`	`NeoTron`	`on archimonde our "lack of diversity" moonkin decurses, battle resses, and heals in addition to dps`
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`18:42.40`	`NeoTron`	`a feral druid can battle res and that's about ti`
`18:42.40`	`CIA-8`	`03yssaril * r61163 10YssGridLayout/:`
`18:42.40`	`CIA-8`	`Removed file/folder`
`18:42.40`	`CIA-8`	`more skilled people have made better layouts :P that accomplish the same thing and more`
`18:42.53`	`NeoTron`	`tank/dps sure but not in the same gear`
`18:42.57`	`chiper`	`his main is a warrior tank, so I think he's biased`
`18:43.21`	`NeoTron`	`normally warrior tanks have feral druid envy`
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`18:46.31`	`rubik`	`all our normal warrior tanks went dps now and left all the tanking to druids`
`18:47.43`	`rubik`	`but we're early into TK/SSC so it doesn't really screw us too much (except for Hydross but we're crafting the resist gear now and warriors will have to respec for it)`
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`18:50.00`	`NeoTron`	`dps warriors can OT hydross`
`18:50.05`	`NeoTron`	`and druids MT`
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`18:58.23`	`Dashkal`	`Anybody remember how long the wow website was supposed to be down today?`
`18:58.51`	`ckknight`	`a bajillion years`
`18:59.35`	`Dashkal`	`Sure feels like it when I want to be :f5:ing the ptr page`
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`19:03.54`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61164 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Update for continent level nodes.`
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`19:08.33`	`Baldor_work`	`anybody here feels like convincing me of the pros and cons of parrot vs msbt? :>`
`19:09.19`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61165 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: added 2 functions for plugins to call to keep a consistent coordinate generation`
`19:09.29`	`CIA-8`	`03sylvanaar * r61166 10Prat_WIM/ (Prat_WIM.toc libs/ libs/includes.xml): Prat_WIM: Embed PratPlugin-1.0. Without it being present, this functions the same as WIM.`
`19:09.35`	`elusif`	`rogue combat talent tree question - is a point better spent in 'agression' yileding 3% increase in damage on sinister strike and ambush or a point in 'weapon expertise' giefing you an extra 5 in a weapon skill?`
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`19:12.11`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61167 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/ (. HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua): HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Update with sample continent iterator`
`19:12.20`	`Snago`	`elusif: Weapon Expertise`
`19:13.12`	`Chambrln`	`I'm in the process of trying to setup my externals in svn and when I try to update my local copy I'm getting a notification that 5 of the Ace2 components are locked. any suggestions? I was able to get 4 other Ace2 ones fine and 3 other libs also with no problem`
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`19:16.09`	`chiper`	`Baldor_work: I've never used parrot, but I've heard it can be a bit of a resource whore`
`19:16.33`	`chiper`	`msbt is pretty spiffy tho`
`19:16.44`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61168 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua):`
`19:16.44`	`CIA-8`	`BigWigs: Sunwell:`
`19:16.44`	`CIA-8`	`- cleanups`
`19:16.44`	`CIA-8`	`- add notes about localization`
`19:16.44`	`CIA-8`	`- add death messages`
`19:17.12`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61169 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: removed un-needed AceEvent-3.0 mixin`
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`19:18.08`	`Kody-`	`anyone know of an updated ilevel calculator?`
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`19:19.21`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61170 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: doh! i missed the sendmessage line`
`19:19.21`	`chiper`	`RatingBuster?`
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`19:20.23`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61171 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: add commented 2.4 change`
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`19:21.09`	`Kody-`	`Outside of the game`
`19:23.13`	`chiper`	`doesnt wowhead show ilevel?`
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`19:24.27`	`Hjalte`	`chiper: Yeah?`
`19:25.00`	`CIA-8`	`03cinedelle * r61172 10SickOfClickingDailies/localization-frFR.lua:`
`19:25.00`	`CIA-8`	`SickOfClickingDailies:`
`19:25.00`	`CIA-8`	`-Updated French local file... stupid non-breaking space char ^^`
`19:26.49`	`chiper`	`yup, looks like it does.`
`19:29.12`	`Hjalte`	`Woah. For some reason my fps is way, way lower than usual in Al'ars room fighting the adds. Anyone experience something similar?`
`19:29.16`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61173 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Add some comments, reduce default icon size`
`19:29.58`	`ArM-eye`	`amon-ra everyone`
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`19:31.17`	`Hjalte`	`Okay... The problem was having Firefox Beta 2 open. Meh.`
`19:31.32`	`Josh_Borke`	`wtf is handynotes?`
`19:31.36`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61174 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Add option to toggle showing on continent maps`
`19:31.41`	`ArM-eye`	`Would you like to read the reveal?`
`19:31.45`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61175 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: Sunwell: Change the way boss death is done`
`19:31.49`	Funkeh`	`FFB3 is our by the way`
`19:31.54`	`ArM-eye`	`It involves biblical figures`
`19:31.55`	Funkeh`	`out`
`19:32.27`	`ArM-eye`	`yes or no?`
`19:32.56`	`ArM-eye`	`it must not be given against will`
`19:33.05`	`Xinhuan`	`its a mapnotes addon Josh_Borke`
`19:33.06`	`NeoTron`	Funkeh`: the speed at which BigWigs moves is impressive
`19:33.17`	`Xinhuan`	`i haven't quite finished the core`
`19:33.27`	`AmR-eye`	`Would you like to read the reveal?`
`19:33.48`	`NeoTron`	`AmR-eye: what are you talking about?`
`19:34.02`	`AmR-eye`	`It involves biblical figures`
`19:34.56`	`NeoTron`	`and that is relevant because of what?`
`19:35.12`	`AmR-eye`	`Would you like to read the reveal?`
`19:35.15`	`NeoTron`	`last I checked, this was #wowace, not #bibleschool`
`19:35.47`	`AmR-eye`	`BEGINNITIO REVELATIONEM`
`19:35.47`	`AmR-eye`	`DECODE BIBLIA`
`19:35.47`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Abraham is associated with the Egyptian pharaoh Amenemhat I (translates: amen is the head) who worshiped the god Amun (Amen). Abraham god then be associated with in the Abrahamic religions god as amun, amon, omon, amen and the deity aamon. Abraham/Amenemhet I`
`19:35.52`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Jacob = King Yakubher`
`19:35.54`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Moses = Thutmose III`
`19:35.57`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - David = Psusennes I`
`19:35.59`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Solomon = Siamun (translates: son of amun)`
`19:36.02`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - James = Ptolemy Philadelphus`
`19:36.04`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Thomas Judas Didymus = Alexander Helios`
`19:36.07`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - Mary Magdalene = Cleopatra Selene II`
`19:36.09`	`AmR-eye`	`FINALIZE REVELATIONEM`
`19:36.09`	`pastamancer`	Funkeh`: banhammer!
`19:36.12`	`AmR-eye`	`BIBLIA CHARACTER 1`
`19:36.14`	`AmR-eye`	`REVELATIONEM DE CHRISTUS`
`19:36.17`	`AmR-eye`	`Revel - JESUS = CAESARION, Ptolemy XV, King of kings, little ceasar, Isa, Jesus`
`19:36.18`	`NeoTron`	`oh for crying out loud`
`19:36.19`	`AmR-eye`	`The son of Julius Ceasar / Divine Julius and Clepatra VII / Goddes Isis`
`19:36.22`	`AmR-eye`	`Married to his half sister at "wedding in cana"`
`19:36.28`	`NeoTron`	`bible spambot?`
`19:36.37`	*** mode/#wowace [+b !i=elf@*.client.mchsi.com] by Funkeh`
`19:36.44`	*** kick/#wowace [AmR-eye!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
`19:37.11`	`NeoTron`	`that was an unusual experience`
`19:37.57`	Funkeh`	`next time spam when i'm not talking to my gf ty`
`19:38.07`	Funkeh`	`all i hear is pastas BEEEEP`
`19:38.16`	`NeoTron`	`I'm sure they will comply`
`19:38.19`	`chiper`	`yeah, not the usual bot content`
`19:39.21`	Funkeh`	`<ArM-eye> it must not be given against will`
`19:39.24`	`cncfanatics`	`whats up with spambots these days ?`
`19:39.25`	Funkeh`	`eh? ;p`
`19:39.36`	Funkeh`	`Wasn't that against will`
`19:39.56`	`cncfanatics`	`I wanted the bible revelation tbh (a)`
`19:40.02`	`Snago`	`lol`
`19:40.24`	`chiper`	`it looks like they're trying to say that Egyptian lore and the Judaic lore are the same thing?`
`19:40.46`	`chiper`	`what a weird thing to spam`
`19:40.54`	Funkeh`	`No, it looks like they are trying to say marrying your half sister is ok`
`19:40.55`	`kebinusan`	`bleh the guy who makes wine debs for ubuntu must be on vacation, he's 5 days past release`
`19:41.00`	`Snago`	`Before you know it they'll claim that the Goa'uld once ruled on earth as well`
`19:41.08`	Funkeh`	`rofl`
`19:41.11`	`chiper`	`hehe`
`19:41.41`	`kebinusan`	`he was trying to snowcrash your brainstem`
`19:42.07`	`NeoTron`	`Snago: well we all know THAT is true`
`19:42.11`	`kebinusan`	`I gave up trying to understand weirdos`
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`19:42.33`	`kebinusan`	`most tales in the bible actually have roots much older than the time of jesus though`
`19:42.51`	`NeoTron`	`to change the subject, I decided to try out felguard again last night`
`19:42.54`	`Snago`	`NeoTron: ofc it's true, McGuyver said it`
`19:42.56`	`NeoTron`	`see how it compares`
`19:43.03`	`kebinusan`	`silly flood tales have their roots in other cultures and the like`
`19:43.10`	`chiper`	`logically, since the old testament predates jesus by almost 1000 years`
`19:43.12`	`NeoTron`	`clearly inferior on, say, archimonde bot rpetty darn good overall still`
`19:43.20`	`NeoTron`	`ofc I don't have 4xt6 yet`
`19:43.35`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r61176 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Brutallus: remove sync throttle which I somehow managed to add`
`19:44.01`	`chiper`	`I like orson scott card's version of the flood origin. noah was the lone survivor of the sinking of atlantis, which was actually the flooding of the red sea`
`19:44.40`	`kebinusan`	`orson scott card's version? did it somehow rewrite itself with noah being ender`
`19:44.56`	`chiper`	`why do people think that the ender series is the only thing OSC wrote?`
`19:45.14`	`Ellipsis`	`because it's the only thing they've read?`
`19:45.21`	`kebinusan`	`having read the ender/shadow series I think the boy milked that cow till it died`
`19:45.31`	`kebinusan`	`then milked it some more`
`19:45.46`	`kebinusan`	`so I like to poke fun of it`
`19:46.09`	`chiper`	`the man has four large (more then 5 novels) book series and a dozen individual novels, plus more short stories then I can count`
`19:46.53`	`kebinusan`	`after reading the ender/shadow series a couple years ago I decided not to check out his other work`
`19:47.13`	`kebinusan`	`but eh, to each their own`
`19:47.14`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro * r61177 10/branches/HandyNotes_Mailboxes/: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: dir cretion`
`19:47.25`	`kebinusan`	`still wasnt as painful as the middle books in wheel of time`
`19:47.34`	`chiper`	`what turned you off?`
`19:48.21`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61178 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): HandyNotes_Mailboxes: sample plugin`
`19:48.28`	`kebinusan`	`After speaker of the dead I just found it got a bit silly, same with the shadow series when it got to bean chasing terrorists around the globe trying to recover embryos`
`19:50.11`	`kebinusan`	`just felt a bit too contrived to me`
`19:51.35`	`chiper`	`that whole series is really three different directions. the core ender books were all about child psychology. the speaker trilogy starts with xenophobia and then dives into philosophy and the origins of the universe. the shadow trilogy is military scifi and geo-political politics.`
`19:51.40`	`kebinusan`	`course I felt the same about the bastard herbert boy writing dune prequels`
`19:51.42`	`chiper`	`each part has a very different concept`
`19:52.29`	`chiper`	`OSC is a strong preacher of the belief that only science fiction can explore truely revolutionary concepts, and his writing shows that a lot`
`19:53.13`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61179 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): HandyNotes_Mailboxes: import correction`
`19:53.37`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61180 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/Ace3/: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: import correction`
`19:54.18`	`chiper`	`Empire was a wierd trip of a book, exploring the conflicts that arise in a bipartisan political system. it goes way over the top, but expresses his point. his afterward on the book had me cheering`
`19:54.29`	`kebinusan`	`dune did it better`
`19:54.40`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`19:55.05`	`kebinusan`	`eh, its been a few years since I read it, it held my interest and I did read them all`
`19:55.35`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61181 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: fixed cut and paste error`
`19:56.28`	`CIA-8`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61182 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: removed un-needed methods`
`19:56.57`	`kebinusan`	`I guess I just felt he could have done those stories with out draging out the bean/ender thing so damn far`
`19:57.06`	`chiper`	`he also has some really wierd books too. Wyrms ends with the protagonist having sex with an ancient alien that's been controlling her mind, and the minds of her family for generations, in order to create a hybrid species indended to replace the human race. fucking weird book`
`19:57.23`	`kebinusan`	`much like I feel robert jordan should have had someone other than his wife editing his books`
`19:57.30`	`kenlyric_`	`THANKS FOR THE SPOILER!`
`19:57.48`	`chiper`	`lol, like you were ever going to read the book`
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`19:57.57`	`kenlyric_`	`;)`
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`19:58.26`	`kebinusan`	`was kinda funny I used to think that tolkien was a very verbose writer before I got into wheel of time`
`19:58.30`	`CIA-8`	`03sylvanaar * r61183 10Prat_WIM/Prat_WIM.toc: Prat_WIM: Update the description. Add X-Embeds for WhoLib to stop the social frame from popping up for those who dont have wholib installed.`
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`19:58.49`	`syeren`	`ckknight?`
`19:59.04`	`ckknight`	`yes?`
`19:59.06`	`chiper`	`the speaker series originally didnt have ender in it. the first two books started as one novel and then he realized that adding ender to it would help help to add weight to the story`
`19:59.22`	`Dashkal`	`Opinion question. I stopped reading WoT after "Crossroads of Twilight" on account of the book seemed to be making up for actually advancing the plot the book before (seriously, that book could have been done in a few paragraphs). My question is do things actually pick up after that?`
`19:59.54`	`syeren`	`Your [Fkey] tag in Pitbull.`
`19:59.59`	`kebinusan`	`The last two books certainly picked up the pace considerably`
`20:00.00`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: I'm off to lunch, but when I get back I need your help. tried to write a prat module last night and am very confused`
`20:00.04`	`syeren`	`Is there anyway to make it show the CURRENT keybind to select that unit?`
`20:00.20`	`ckknight`	`not currently`
`20:00.21`	`syeren`	`For example, instead of F2 For Partymember, CNTRL-2`
`20:00.23`	`ckknight`	`make a jira ticket`
`20:00.23`	`syeren`	`:p`
`20:00.23`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper ok`
`20:00.31`	`Dashkal`	`Oh thank god, I think I will finish it then. I was so angry that things kind of ... paused for a thousand pages. At the same time I've read so much, it's a shame not to finish the story`
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`20:01.18`	`kebinusan`	`heh, the 6th book or so which is like 800 pages that covers around one week or so`
`20:01.41`	`chiper`	`this is why I avoided the WoT series. I dont have that kind of patience`
`20:01.42`	`CIA-8`	`03ckknight * r61184 10PitBull/ (29 files in 28 dirs):`
`20:01.42`	`CIA-8`	`PitBull - Reverting revision r61032, as the zhCN translator messed up actual`
`20:01.42`	`CIA-8`	`code in the process. Make sure that you're fully updated _before_ adding`
`20:01.42`	`CIA-8`	`translations, and merge in properly instead of getting rid of further commits.`
`20:01.43`	`kebinusan`	`I just hate how some plot lines dont get advanced for an entire book`
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`20:02.03`	`Dashkal`	`chiper: that's exactly why I don't recommend it to other people.`
`20:02.09`	`Dashkal`	`kebinusan: exactly`
`20:02.12`	`kebinusan`	`he's got a great story there.. but really the story could have been four trilogies`
`20:03.02`	`Dashkal`	`agreed. I love the concept`
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`20:03.03`	`Dashkal`	`I just wish it had been written in a shorter package`
`20:03.13`	`kebinusan`	`A friend of mine once described wheel of time as, "Each book progresses exactly halfway to the end of the series"`
`20:03.21`	`syeren`	`There is no DogTag Jira ticket.`
`20:03.22`	`syeren`	`:/`
`20:03.43`	`kebinusan`	`it certainly feels like it drags on like that at times`
`20:03.53`	`tlund`	`is there a standard way people commit updates for 2.4 in the svn?`
`20:04.07`	`kebinusan`	`tlund: branch it till 2.4 goes live`
`20:04.23`	`ckknight`	`or have code that supports both 2.3 and 2.4`
`20:04.28`	`ckknight`	`possibly with if statements`
`20:04.29`	`tlund`	`kebinusan: i just want to check out, not commit :) what imeant was, is there a specific branch name?`
`20:04.38`	`ckknight`	`syeren: put it under PitBull`
`20:04.43`	`tlund`	`ckknight: yes, that would be nice. :)`
`20:05.00`	`ckknight`	`tlund: that's my plan`
`20:05.04`	`tlund`	`ckknight: but some plugins, like SimpleCombatLog needs to be rewritten from scratch :)`
`20:05.12`	`tlund`	`ckknight: or Omen`
`20:05.18`	`tlund`	`well, for omen, just the parser part`
`20:05.25`	`ckknight`	`LibThreat-2.0?`
`20:05.25`	`Dashkal`	`That (svn question) reminds me. Is email still the best way to ask for svn access? I'm almost ready to start laying down the skeleton code for Nexus`
`20:05.27`	`sylvanaar`	`the blizzard interface is identical to SCL i think`
`20:05.35`	`tlund`	`ckknight: is 2.0 for wow 2.4?`
`20:05.38`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`20:05.42`	`tlund`	`ckknight: ah, ok.`
`20:05.54`	`tlund`	`ckknight: is there a 2.4-branch for omen already?`
`20:06.00`	`Antiarc`	`For Threat, yes`
`20:06.03`	`Antiarc`	`For Omen, not yet.`
`20:06.03`	`elusif`	`snago: sorry i was away, can you explain why weapon expertise is better than aggression for a rogue?`
`20:06.31`	`elusif`	`or if anyone can offer any advice on one versus the other i'd be much obliged`
`20:06.47`	`elusif`	`rogue combat talent tree question - is a point better spent in 'agression' yileding 3% increase in damage on sinister strike and ambush or a point in 'weapon expertise' giefing you an extra 5 in a weapon skill?`
`20:07.18`	`tlund`	`i guess my real question is, "is there an easy way to check out everything people are working on for 2.4 from svn, soo i can start tesitng it on the PTR?". :)`
`20:07.22`	`CIA-8`	`03kivin * r61185 10KivinSpamGuard/rules/german.lua: KivinSpamGuard: Update deDE`
`20:07.39`	`Antiarc`	`tlund: I have my stuff in branches because it's not ready yet.`
`20:07.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'morning all`
`20:08.01`	`tlund`	`Aiiane: but I would have to check know exactly what addons those are, and what the branch name is, i guess?`
`20:08.23`	`Pkekyo\|`	`cncfanatics: pingalingdingdong`
`20:08.42`	`tlund`	`i mean, its not like i can check out "2.4" instead of "trunk"`
`20:09.03`	`sylvanaar`	`?`
`20:09.33`	`CIA-8`	`03ellipsis * r61186 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - added RangeCheck-1.0 to OptDeps since it's not embedded.`
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`20:10.57`	`FinalX`	`hm, will the unique-equipped also be removed from the epic pvp gems?`
`20:11.03`	`Dranor`	`I must be totally spacing, how do I get TortoiseSVN to prompt me for login information so I can commit? I keep getting authorization denied messages but no login prompts`
`20:11.07`	`FinalX`	`or just the one from instances?`
`20:11.17`	Funkeh`	`Why would simplecombatlgo need rewritten`
`20:11.26`	Funkeh`	`the 2.4 combatlog basically is it`
`20:12.38`	`Antiarc`	`Dranor: Are you committing to dev. or svn.?`
`20:12.54`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: ..im not sure i understand your question? the current simplecombatlog will not work at all, ofc?
`20:13.08`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: and sure, you can stop using it, and just go with the blizzard stuff
`20:13.21`	`Antiarc`	Funkeh` is saying there's no need to rewrite SimpleCombatLog because the new Blizzard combat log is basically the same as SimpleCombatLog, except on steroids
`20:13.25`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: but if you want to do something more advanced, you need another plugin.
`20:13.45`	`tlund`	`yeah`
`20:13.57`	Funkeh`	`like?`
`20:14.03`	`tlund`	`like what?`
`20:14.10`	Funkeh`	`advanced like what`
`20:14.17`	`tlund`	`have you played on the ptr?`
`20:14.25`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`20:14.45`	`tlund`	`you where able to get your combatlog to look exactly like you did in SCL?`
`20:14.48`	`Maldivia`	`what annoys me about the new combat log, is it's hardcoded link to ChatFrame2`
`20:14.58`	Funkeh`	`I don't use SCL`
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`20:15.08`	`Elsia`	`heya`
`20:15.11`	`Maldivia`	`heya`
`20:15.13`	Funkeh`	`hi`
`20:15.21`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: i sure wasnt, but maby i was too stupid :)
`20:15.33`	`tlund`	`i only played around with it for like 30 seconds`
`20:15.54`	Funkeh`	`If you're talking about brackets, i'm sure that feature is available and off by default`
`20:16.55`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: how do you get it to log to 3 different windows?
`20:17.16`	`tlund`	`that can all be vissible at the same time`
`20:17.28`	`tlund`	`(not 3 different "tabs" on your chatwindow 2)`
`20:17.42`	Funkeh`	`3 different CHatFrames?`
`20:18.46`	`Antiarc`	`Maldivia: You can probably get around that be rerouting ChatFrame2 before the addon loads`
`20:19.01`	`Maldivia`	`Antiarc: yeah, I know - made an addon exactly for that :)`
`20:19.05`	`Antiarc`	`Hahah, nice :)`
`20:19.14`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: ok, i guess i have to go back and play more with it.
`20:19.25`	Funkeh`	`uh, ok`
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`20:23.53`	`elusif`	`anybody for a rogue - weapon expertise versus aggression?`
`20:24.02`	`elusif`	`pvp rogue`
`20:24.06`	`Kivin`	`wowwiki.com`
`20:24.10`	`elusif`	`ty`
`20:25.54`	`Aeyan`	`Aggression`
`20:26.16`	`Antiarc`	`Aggression will be better spike damage, WEx will be better white damage + more poison procs`
`20:27.43`	`CIA-8`	`03xbeeps * r61187 10PitBull/VisualHeal/ (PitBull_VisualHeal.toc VisualHeal.lua):`
`20:27.43`	`CIA-8`	`PitBull`
`20:27.43`	`CIA-8`	`- Added option to disable the VisualHeal bars for specific frame groups.`
`20:27.43`	`CIA-8`	`- Configurable colors and transparency for the VisualHeal bars.`
`20:27.43`	`CIA-8`	`- By default the outgoing heal bar will be opaque when not overhealing and slightly transparent when overhealing to reduce occlusion of other UI elements.`
`20:27.45`	`CIA-8`	`- By default the incoming heal bar will be slightly transparent to make it easier to discern from the other bars.`
`20:28.00`	`CIA-8`	`03damjau * r61188 10Whats/ (5 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:28.00`	`CIA-8`	`Whats : 0.46`
`20:28.00`	`CIA-8`	`- add show mob drop list in tooltip func`
`20:28.01`	`elusif`	`ty aeyan and antiarc`
`20:28.49`	`Aeyan`	`If you're hard up on points, aggression is superior in a pvp setting`
`20:28.54`	`Aeyan`	`But yeah, Antiarc is correct`
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`20:31.44`	`CIA-8`	`03sinaloit * r61189 10NRT_EPGP/NRT_EPGP.toc:`
`20:31.44`	`CIA-8`	`NRT_EPGP:`
`20:31.44`	`CIA-8`	`- Updated .toc file`
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`20:33.04`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r61190 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:33.04`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`20:33.04`	`CIA-8`	`- Added limited supply to enUS local`
`20:33.04`	`CIA-8`	`- Removed unneeded local strings in all locals`
`20:33.05`	`CIA-8`	`- Removed unneeded code`
`20:33.05`	`CIA-8`	`- Added vendor information function`
`20:33.07`	`CIA-8`	`- All hardcoded`
`20:34.10`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: it doesnt work for me. i am unable to enable any combatlog messages for other windows, the checkbox doesnt even stay checked.
`20:34.21`	`tlund`	Funkeh`: i just logged in to try it.
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`20:40.24`	`Tuks`	`im about to kill whoever last modified fubar`
`20:40.34`	`Tuks`	`or was rock`
`20:41.22`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r61191 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua:`
`20:41.22`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`20:41.22`	`CIA-8`	`- Added Primal Mooncloth vendor locations`
`20:41.22`	`CIA-8`	`- Hardcoded`
`20:41.36`	`haste`	`facepalm`
`20:41.43`	`Ellipsis`	`Tuks: what's wrong?`
`20:42.09`	`Tuks`	`atempt to call nil value, from rock lib.. and now no Ace2 addon seems to work`
`20:42.33`	`Ellipsis`	`can you give the full error message?`
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`20:45.01`	`Tuks`	`i jsut got my old version`
`20:47.07`	`Ellipsis`	`well we can't fix errors we can't identify, so unless you can point me to another report of the problem...`
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`20:52.09`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61193 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`20:52.09`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`20:52.09`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell update`
`20:52.11`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r61192 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:52.11`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`20:52.11`	`CIA-8`	`- Sunwell update`
`20:52.46`	`Ozguli`	`lol.. someone in my guild refuses to get guild calendar`
`20:52.56`	`Ozguli`	`because he cannot install any more addons`
`20:53.05`	`Ozguli`	`worst excuse I've ever heard...`
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`20:53.53`	`Ozguli`	`the latest version isn't even too spammy or resource heavy anymore`
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`20:55.16`	`Ozguli`	`uh.. how much disc space your wow folders eat?`
`20:55.33`	`Ozguli`	`mine seems to be as big as 8.86G`
`20:55.41`	`Xinhuan`	`i discovered a blizzard bug ~_~`
`20:56.31`	`Xinhuan`	`## LoadWidth: ABC ## OptionalDeps: DEF`
`20:56.44`	`Xinhuan`	`when you load ABC, and this addon loads, it doesn't load DEF`
`20:56.48`	`Xinhuan`	`qq`
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`20:57.09`	`hani`	`any pitbull devs here?`
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`20:58.40`	`Diao`	`there's only 1 pitbull dev`
`20:58.56`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61194 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Switch to using WorldMapTooltip`
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`20:59.12`	`Ellipsis`	`hani: are you having problems with it?`
`20:59.17`	`hani`	`with configuring it, yes`
`20:59.34`	`Ellipsis`	`if your options are missing, use a config mode`
`20:59.37`	`hani`	`if I dont install all the librock stuff separately, it errors out when showing config`
`20:59.50`	`Ellipsis`	`then your embedded libs are out of date`
`20:59.52`	`hani`	`and if I do install all the librock stuff, then it errors on some config items`
`20:59.54`	`Ellipsis`	`update all your addons`
`21:00.04`	`hani`	`I did/do`
`21:00.12`	`Ellipsis`	`well, then pastey some error messages`
`21:00.16`	`hani`	`k, one sec`
`21:00.28`	`hani`	`just readded all the librock stuff`
`21:00.44`	`Mudkipz`	`Ellipsis, http://cdn-i.dmdentertainment.com/cracked/jp/cards/anal.jpg`
`21:00.57`	`Ellipsis`	`Mudkipz: YES PLZ`
`21:00.58`	`Mudkipz`	`it's not a trap T_T`
`21:01.11`	`Mudkipz`	`o you clixored on it`
`21:01.14`	`Mudkipz`	`k then`
`21:01.16`	`Mudkipz`	`omw`
`21:02.09`	`hani`	`Pitbull_MetaLayout.lua: 1486: table index is nil`
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`21:02.31`	`hani`	`when clicking on all units -> bars -> blank space`
`21:02.52`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: is that helpful at all?`
`21:03.57`	`Ellipsis-`	`sorry, I missed your link`
`21:04.02`	`Ellipsis-`	`(stupid connection)`
`21:04.14`	`hani`	`Pitbull_MetaLayout.lua: 1486: table index is nil`
`21:04.24`	`hani`	`when clicking on all units -> bars -> blank space`
`21:04.29`	`Ellipsis-`	`hmm, I'll take a look`
`21:05.21`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r61195 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/ (. HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua): HandyNotes_Mailboxes: Fix various drycode issues.`
`21:06.32`	`Cheads`	`Xinhuan are those HandyNotes intended for Mapster?`
`21:06.34`	`hani`	`also in the config tree, each of the nodes under all units -> texts has a 'position' subnode thats empty`
`21:06.51`	`Xinhuan`	`they are intended to be standalone, so its not for mapster`
`21:07.09`	`Cheads`	`ok`
`21:07.14`	`Xinhuan`	`just trying out some funky iterator stuff`
`21:07.32`	`Cheads`	`but seems like they would be nice to run with mapster(if you need those kind of notes) =)`
`21:08.02`	`Xinhuan`	`i honestly think anyone that needs mailbox notes on the map should just shoot themselves`
`21:08.09`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`^^`
`21:08.19`	`Ellipsis-`	`^`
`21:08.39`	`Cheads`	`<-- takes aim at himself ;O)`
`21:08.44`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`can't you track those these days?`
`21:09.06`	`Xinhuan`	`the FlightMaster one, i include a full preloaded db, so it doesn't track anything`
`21:09.14`	`Ellipsis-`	`hani: I can't reproduce the problem, there may be something messed up in your saved variables`
`21:09.21`	`Xinhuan`	`the Mailbox one doesn't come with anything, so it tracks as you open mailboxes`
`21:09.33`	`Xinhuan`	`but its a bit ugly at the moment`
`21:09.37`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: hm, any idea on what to look for/clear out? I dont really want to remove all my pitbull configs`
`21:09.40`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`well, i mean, with the new tracking stuff they added, isn't there one for mailboxes?`
`21:09.50`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't use the blizzard shit on the world map`
`21:10.00`	`Xinhuan`	`nor detect the blizzard tracking stuff on the minimap`
`21:10.26`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`i guess, but who the hell REALLY needs to see flight masters or mail boxes on the world map?`
`21:10.40`	`Ellipsis-`	`hani: if you're going to manually edit them, I'd recommend backing up first, and then removing any references to the blank space bar in particular`
`21:10.45`	`hani`	`ok`
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`21:11.05`	`hani`	`thanks`
`21:11.14`	`Xinhuan`	`the plugins are meant to be "example code" for whoever wants to write real DB plugins`
`21:11.28`	`Xinhuan`	`but hey, there will be people they go "that's handy!"`
`21:11.34`	`Xinhuan`	`and download it anyway`
`21:12.14`	`Xinhuan`	`not that anyone cares about 8 kb or so of ram use`
`21:12.22`	`Xinhuan`	`because that's how much it is using at the moment`
`21:12.24`	`Diao`	`i do!`
`21:12.27`	`Ellipsis-`	`wait a second, hani, which locale are you using?`
`21:12.31`	`Diao`	`since i use so much anyway`
`21:12.32`	`hani`	`english`
`21:12.46`	`Ozguli`	`NightHawkAtWork I'd love to see mail boxes on the world map`
`21:12.55`	`Ellipsis-`	`ah, well, there goes that idea`
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`21:13.02`	`Ozguli`	`can't ever remember where they are`
`21:13.02`	`Cheads`	`with all my alts I find those handynotes very nice =9`
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`21:13.09`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`woop`
`21:13.14`	`Cheads`	`<-- getting old and senile =)`
`21:13.15`	`Xinhuan`	`kagaro found a list of locs anyway`
`21:13.18`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`ctrl-w when the wrong window was active`
`21:13.20`	`Xinhuan`	`i guess he's converting the locs`
`21:13.25`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: got another issue, sometime last week I think my character's unitframe started showing up with a black border around it (50% alpha or so)`
`21:13.36`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: is that configurable anywhere, whether to show that border or not?`
`21:13.50`	`Ellipsis-`	`yep, player frame -> other`
`21:14.07`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`I dunno, mailboxes are generally always in one of two places, its not rocket science.`
`21:14.28`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`unless you're in silvermoon, then there's a mailbox every ten feet`
`21:14.33`	`Cheads`	`hehe`
`21:14.35`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: border is set to none`
`21:14.37`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: but it still shows up`
`21:14.56`	`Ellipsis-`	`very odd`
`21:15.06`	`Ellipsis-`	`try changing it to somethign else and then back to none?`
`21:15.11`	`hani`	`k`
`21:15.24`	`Cheads`	`I find it nice to be able to see it 'instantly' and not having to think where the damn mailbox is at =)`
`21:15.37`	`Cheads`	`doubt Xinhuan tries to force anyone to use it =)`
`21:16.09`	`Xinhuan`	`trivia: is there a mailbox in moonglade?`
`21:16.24`	`Ellipsis-`	`no`
`21:16.25`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: still there`
`21:16.28`	`Cheads`	`no`
`21:16.37`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: the border setting seems to control the bit around the black border, not the black border itself`
`21:16.39`	`Ellipsis-`	`hani: hmm...are you running eePanels or anything that might be adding a border?`
`21:16.41`	`Cheads`	`... is my guess =)`
`21:16.44`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`answer: It doesn't matter, because no one but druids go to moonglade anyway`
`21:16.51`	`hani`	`skinner?`
`21:17.02`	`Ellipsis-`	`skinner might do it, I'm not sure`
`21:17.06`	`Ellipsis-`	`does it have a PitBull skin?`
`21:17.11`	`hani`	`nope`
`21:17.15`	`Ellipsis-`	`hrm`
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`21:17.31`	`Ellipsis-`	`think you can take a screenshot of the problem?`
`21:17.35`	`Ellipsis-`	`it might be a layout issue`
`21:17.53`	`hani`	`sure, config mode on or off?`
`21:18.07`	`Ellipsis-`	`doesn't matter, as long as the border problem is visible`
`21:19.03`	`hani`	`post on imageshack?`
`21:19.09`	`Ellipsis-`	`that works`
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`21:20.07`	`xodlike`	`Hello, Sorry for disturbing ya'll, but I have a question. Is there anyone with a moment to spare?`
`21:20.12`	`Ellipsis-`	`~asktoask`
`21:20.12`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`21:20.17`	`Kivin`	`A type "action" actionButton requires seperate action IDs for each state, yes? ie: action 1 can't have a neutral and a ctrl-modified action?`
`21:20.46`	`xodlike`	`The big bar that many UI screenshots show, I've done it with the blizzard UI, however, is there a better way to do it with an addon?`
`21:20.50`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borderva7.png`
`21:21.00`	`xodlike`	`As in, the big bar at the bottom of the screen`
`21:21.03`	`dylanm`	`xodlike: Got an example?`
`21:21.07`	`xodlike`	`Often having the chat, abilities, etc.`
`21:21.08`	`xodlike`	`Yeah, sec.`
`21:21.21`	`dylanm`	`Do you want a backing to it or just a dark canvas?`
`21:21.46`	`xodlike`	`A texture backing would be nice, but a dark canvas is fine.`
`21:22.09`	`Ellipsis-`	`hani: that does look like a problem I've seen reported a couple times before`
`21:22.13`	`CIA-8`	`03xbeeps * r61196 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:`
`21:22.13`	`CIA-8`	`PitBull`
`21:22.13`	`CIA-8`	`- Remove a redundant line.`
`21:22.13`	`CIA-8`	`- Improved support for incoming multi-target heals.`
`21:22.14`	`CIA-8`	`03kergoth * r61197 10/branches/HandyNotes_Stables/ (7 files in 3 dirs): HandyNotes_Stables: initial commit.`
`21:22.30`	`hani`	`Ellipsis-: anything I can do to help debug?`
`21:22.33`	`Ellipsis-`	`in those cases we weren't able to reproduce or identify the actual issue, but deleting the SVs fixed it`
`21:22.44`	`hani`	`I did that`
`21:22.59`	`hani`	`(and I still getthe other table is nil error btw)`
`21:23.06`	`hani`	`actually do I also need to move away the .bak file?`
`21:23.21`	`hani`	`I assume not, since all my lovely config has dissapeared`
`21:23.41`	`Ellipsis-`	`no, you should just need to close WoW, delete the SVs, and then start WoW again`
`21:23.47`	`hani`	`yeah did that`
`21:23.50`	`Ellipsis-`	`hmm`
`21:24.07`	`dylanm`	`xodlike: If you find a texture we can work on getting that... for just changing the viewport there are mods like http://files.wowace.com/Aperture/Aperture-r54696.4.zip`
`21:24.33`	`xodlike`	`Hmm, Thanks. Ill be testing.`
`21:24.37`	`xodlike`	`Brb.`
`21:25.18`	`Ellipsis-`	`hani: are you using any non-standard PitBull modules like _AltAura, _FullBar, or _Prat?`
`21:25.41`	`hani`	`nothing I've deliberately installed, let me double check`
`21:26.08`	`hani`	`nope, just the standard ones that ship in the .zip`
`21:26.25`	`Ellipsis-`	`all right`
`21:26.25`	`hani`	`all expanded into the Addons dir (so no modules embedded)`
`21:26.46`	`Ellipsis-`	`do you usually have them all enabled?`
`21:26.52`	`hani`	`yes`
`21:27.10`	`hani`	`I had some disabled in pitbull config, but right now none are`
`21:27.20`	`hani`	`(visualheal would error every time in a raid, so I disabled that)`
`21:27.25`	`Ellipsis-`	`odd`
`21:28.20`	`Elsia`	`lua> test=if true then end`
`21:28.20`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "test=if true then end"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'if'`
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`21:28.45`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`anybody who can help me with a lil question about my fury warrior?`
`21:28.48`	`Elsia`	`test = bit.band(1,2)==0`
`21:28.50`	`Kivin`	`~asktoask`
`21:28.50`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`21:28.52`	`Elsia`	`lua> test = bit.band(1,2)==0`
`21:28.53`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia:`
`21:28.54`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`my first melee :>`
`21:29.00`	`Elsia`	`lua> test = bit.band(1,2)==1`
`21:29.00`	`lua_bot`	`Elsia:`
`21:29.09`	`Josh_Borke`	`lua> test = bit.band(1,2) == 1; print(test)`
`21:29.09`	`lua_bot`	`Josh_Borke: false`
`21:29.12`	`Josh_Borke`	`lua> test = bit.band(1,2) == 0; print(test)`
`21:29.12`	`lua_bot`	`Josh_Borke: true`
`21:29.17`	`Elsia`	`tnx`
`21:29.18`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`which weapon to put in which hand?`
`21:29.30`	`Josh_Borke`	`slow/fast`
`21:29.38`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`slow in main and fast in off?`
`21:29.44`	`Kivin`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK: What class, what spec`
`21:29.48`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`warrior fury`
`21:29.55`	`Kivin`	`can't help ya`
`21:30.00`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK`	`<_< durr`
`21:30.09`	`xodlike`	`Okay, I see how aperture works.`
`21:30.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK: there's a great set of posts on the wow forums`
`21:30.27`	`xodlike`	`Kind of nice, but with no transparency options, and no texturable options..`
`21:30.34`	`Josh_Borke`	`Mezir\|SemiAFK: you basically want to have equal speed weapons if possible`
`21:30.56`	`xodlike`	`Theres many aspects of this UI that I dont like, but how is it done.`
`21:30.57`	`xodlike`	`http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/1-solo-clean.jpg`
`21:31.35`	`Josh_Borke`	`i see buttons that are skinned!`
`21:31.40`	`Josh_Borke`	`and i see fubar panels`
`21:32.04`	`Josh_Borke`	`what sort of things are you curious about?`
`21:32.22`	`Ellipsis-`	`the custom art is probably in eepanels/dart`
`21:33.35`	`xodlike`	`Umm.. Have you guys tried Skinner?`
`21:33.57`	`Ozguli`	`have to say that custom art looks good`
`21:34.16`	`Twist-`	`The alliance logo is a huge waste of space.`
`21:34.25`	`xodlike`	`Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Haha.`
`21:34.29`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`all the graphics and skins are a huge waste of space :P`
`21:34.33`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r61198 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua:`
`21:34.33`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`21:34.33`	`CIA-8`	`- Added first multi-vendor location for Blue Linen Vest`
`21:34.33`	`CIA-8`	`- Hardcoded`
`21:34.33`	`CIA-8`	`- Will do testing on it tonight once home from work.`
`21:34.34`	`CIA-8`	`- Need to add another external to the list ("Babble-Zone-2.2")`
`21:34.38`	`Ozguli`	`NightHawkAtWork true that`
`21:35.19`	`Ellipsis-`	`some wastes are bigger than others though`
`21:35.20`	`Ozguli`	`http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/ui/ui10022008.jpg is mine, ignore the threat meter as I'm not using it too often`
`21:35.53`	`CIA-8`	`03xbeeps * r61199 10/branches/PitBull_VisualHeal/ (PitBull_VisualHeal.toc VisualHeal.lua):`
`21:35.53`	`CIA-8`	`PitBull_VisualHeal:`
`21:35.53`	`CIA-8`	`- End of the line for this code (integrated into PitBull now). Don't know how to delete the top-level directory without checking out branches. Which i don't want to...`
`21:35.56`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: you here?`
`21:36.04`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`Ozguli: nice`
`21:36.07`	`Dashkal`	`mmm, is there a grid indicator (I'd check myself but am at work) to mark the leader of the party?`
`21:36.21`	`Diao`	`not afaik Dashkal`
`21:36.25`	`Ozguli`	`it's skinned nowadays, the screenshot is a bit old as you see from the date`
`21:36.26`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`you could write one though`
`21:36.33`	`Diao`	`ugh`
`21:36.33`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper doing heroic mt atm`
`21:36.51`	`Diao`	`wtb druid for 2v2 arena on US-Blackrock[H] PST :(`
`21:36.53`	`Dashkal`	`NightHawkAtWork: hrm, I may have to, it's the only thing keeping me from using grid to replace ag_uf for party frames.`
`21:36.58`	`Elsia`	`hmm where can I find the unitid's for raidtarget1..8? is it just "raidtarget1" etc?`
`21:37.04`	`Diao`	`why do you need to know who the part leader is Dashkal?`
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`21:37.31`	`chiper`	`ok`
`21:37.37`	`Dashkal`	`Diao: So I know who to harass to invite to a party, that kind of thing`
`21:37.45`	`Diao`	`ah`
`21:38.04`	`xlvii`	`diao, if you help me level i'll come be your bitch.`
`21:38.13`	`Dashkal`	`Same deal for ML, and assists. I just like to know this sort of thing (I envision a low priority, ooc indicator for that)`
`21:38.16`	`Snago`	`Ozguli: What buff mod is that in the lower right corner?`
`21:38.28`	`Ozguli`	`Elk's`
`21:38.37`	`Diao`	`lol`
`21:38.46`	`Diao`	`i have 4k arena points`
`21:38.51`	`Snago`	`Oh, with width set to 0?`
`21:38.51`	`Diao`	`and i need 1850 rating to buy my s3 weapon :(`
`21:38.57`	`xlvii`	`oh true.`
`21:39.08`	`Ozguli`	`yea and some stuff I can't recall now`
`21:39.21`	`xlvii`	`i'm stuck in that predicament on my rogue.`
`21:39.46`	`Diao`	`i've been playing with a pally friend`
`21:39.51`	`Diao`	`for 5 weeks in a row`
`21:39.55`	`Diao`	`we get up to 1830 or 1840`
`21:40.00`	`Diao`	`and then get raped down to 1700s`
`21:40.09`	`Diao`	`so we've pretty much given up`
`21:40.18`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper what is it you want to add to the text`
`21:40.27`	`Ozguli`	`away now.`
`21:42.06`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: actually I'm not at that point yet. I'm trying to make an actual prat module now`
`21:42.28`	`xodlike`	`So, Aperture but texturized doesnt exist really?`
`21:42.40`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper there is a blank module in prat/extras`
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`21:43.01`	`chiper`	`I downloaded the template off the wiki page and filled in the proper fields. Can that template function as a standalone addon, or does it need to be put some where else?`
`21:43.10`	`Zariel`	`Does BugGrabber fire events when it grabs?`
`21:43.24`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper it can be standalone`
`21:43.34`	`chiper`	`because I tried making it as a standalone. wow sees it, I think it's loading, but it doesnt show up in Prat's config`
`21:43.54`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper look at Talented. it has a prat module in it`
`21:45.06`	`Dashkal`	`xodlike: aperture just resizes the gameworld viewport. eePanels (or skinner?) does the job of adding graphics. Each of them just picked a job to do. Unix philosophy`
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`21:45.50`	`[SW]Dodge`	`YAAY got my t5 leggs :D`
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`21:46.42`	`xodlike`	`eePanels is what I was looking for.`
`21:46.45`	`xodlike`	`Thanks Dashkal`
`21:47.05`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for.`
`21:47.07`	`Snago`	`grats [SW]Dodge`
`21:47.20`	`Dashkal`	`np`
`21:48.13`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper idk what you are doing`
`21:48.14`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r61200 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua):`
`21:48.14`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`21:48.14`	`CIA-8`	`- Updated libraries a bit, should still work crosses fingers`
`21:48.43`	`chiper`	`I guess what I'm asking is, is there something extra that has to be done to register the module with prat? something not in the template?`
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`21:49.22`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper no`
`21:49.39`	`xodlike`	`Is there a pack of textures? Or something like that`
`21:50.23`	`chiper`	`so I should just be able to make the changes described and when it loads it'll be listed with the other modules?`
`21:50.54`	`chiper`	`wish I had copied the thing to this computer :/`
`21:50.59`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper yes, assuming you actually load the file`
`21:51.04`	`CIA-8`	`03saroz * r61201 10/branches/PitBull_VisualHeal/: PitBull_VisualHeal: bye`
`21:53.43`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper hmm..well when you have a copy you can pastey it`
`21:54.34`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper i mean you can just take the blankmodule.lua and do a find-replace on the tokens and you have a working module`
`21:55.53`	`chiper`	`yeah, that's what I thought`
`21:56.11`	`chiper`	`couple it with a .toc and it should load up just like any addon`
`21:56.32`	`ckknight`	`http://live.yahoo.com/justinishere`
`21:56.45`	`ckknight`	`he'll show up soon`
`21:57.16`	`chiper`	`and it does show up in the addons window. I should probably make it print to console to verify it is loading`
`21:57.29`	`CIA-8`	`03peragor * r61202 10GridLayoutPlus/ (GridLayoutPlus.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`21:57.29`	`CIA-8`	`GridLayoutPlus:`
`21:57.29`	`CIA-8`	`- Added unitsPerColumn option allowing you to create a long columns of units, sinstead of being stuck at 5 units per column.`
`21:57.29`	`CIA-8`	`- Added class sorting so you can change the order in which the columns are populated. Also affects filtering on some columns (Ex: Hide warlock pets, or hide blizzard MainAssist).`
`21:57.30`	`CIA-8`	`- Added tank and pet specer toggles. If you want a space between your tanks and your player groups, you can now toggle it on.`
`21:57.35`	`CIA-8`	`- Fixed a bug where changing the layoutSorting or showPets would not update the layout immediately.`
`21:58.16`	`Saroz`	`wtf is that ckknight`
`21:58.23`	`ckknight`	`Saroz: curse headquarters`
`21:58.27`	`Saroz`	`ohh`
`21:58.32`	`Saroz`	`didnt even know they had one`
`21:58.33`	`ckknight`	`practical joke zeeg is playing`
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`21:58.41`	`ckknight`	`Saroz: I'm there now :-P`
`21:58.52`	`Saroz`	`uhhh`
`21:59.06`	`ckknight`	`uh?`
`21:59.24`	`Saroz`	`so where is this guy`
`22:00.04`	`ckknight`	`lunch`
`22:00.08`	`ckknight`	`should be back by now, though`
`22:00.19`	`Saroz`	`go wave at cam`
`22:00.27`	`Saroz`	`why are we waiting for him?`
`22:00.46`	`ckknight`	`Saroz: supposed to be hilarious`
`22:00.51`	`Saroz`	`ok`
`22:00.55`	`Saroz`	`It better be!`
`22:00.56`	`Zariel`	`someone updte !BugGrabber to check for AceBucket/event-3.0`
`22:00.59`	`Saroz`	`Got my hopes up`
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`22:01.50`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper prats debugging has a modules subsystem you can enable also`
`22:02.31`	`Peragor`	`Anyone know how often the auto-zip creation happens? Is it on a timer or a trigger?`
`22:02.43`	`Saroz`	`auto`
`22:02.47`	`Saroz`	`every 20th min.`
`22:02.57`	`Peragor`	`Ok thank you`
`22:04.30`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper if you look at Talented\chat.lua you can see how to add prat support to an existing addon also`
`22:07.16`	`xodlike`	`Thanks a ton you guys :)`
`22:07.20`	`xodlike`	`I appreciate it much.`
`22:07.22`	`xodlike`	`Bye~`
`22:07.50`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: yeah, i've been looking at the chat.lua file.`
`22:10.02`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper what does your mod do`
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`22:10.56`	`chiper`	`intercepts the signon and signoff messages for friends and guildmates, and replaces the default text with a more comprehensive string`
`22:11.33`	`aestil`	`good afternoon all!`
`22:12.45`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: this is the original that I'm basing my code off. http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=4042`
`22:12.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`jesus titty fucking christ`
`22:13.01`	`aestil`	`jesus did not ever do what you just suggested he did.`
`22:13.05`	`Pkekyo\|`	`my guild just got invaded by an absolute fucking arseload of portoguese people`
`22:13.07`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper im still in mana tombs can you just tell me`
`22:13.18`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: I did`
`22:13.20`	`Fin`	`harro!`
`22:13.33`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: it intercepts the signon and signoff messages for friends and guildmates, and replaces the default text with a more comprehensive string`
`22:14.22`	`rubik`	`chiper: looks like a good idea.. toggle-able options for what info is shown/not shown?`
`22:14.53`	`chiper`	`rubik: my plan is to rewrite the formatting part of it so that it uses a tag replacement method`
`22:15.01`	`chiper`	`so there'd just be a single string to control the output`
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`22:15.12`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper well, then you just need to register for the PreAddMessage event, and blank out all the fields i guess`
`22:15.12`	`rubik`	`gotcha.. even better`
`22:16.02`	`chiper`	`something like "&name [&level &class] (&note) has come online"`
`22:16.10`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper if you enable debugging, and the split subsytem you can see the message tables`
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`22:18.15`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: ok, I'll look into that when I get home.`
`22:18.50`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper there are lots of modules so there are plenty of examples`
`22:19.59`	`chiper`	`nod my main confusion was in what differences there would be between the built in modules and a standalone`
`22:21.28`	`aestil`	`i'm using basic minimap. it appears to have fixed my wierd eepanels + minimap issue.`
`22:23.12`	`ckknight`	`what issue?`
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`22:26.31`	`elusif`	`there is an enchant you can get on a piece of armour to increase mount speed at level 40 is there not?`
`22:26.43`	`elusif`	`i already have carrot on a stick and can't use mithril spurs because i'm not a blacksmith`
`22:26.44`	`Ellipsis-`	`glove enchant and spurs for boots`
`22:26.54`	`Ellipsis-`	`you can get a blacksmith to put the spurs on for you`
`22:27.16`	`elusif`	`do you know what the glove enchant is called? i'm not getting any responses from trade`
`22:27.23`	`Kivin`	`wowhead it`
`22:27.23`	`elusif`	`ty for info about spurs :)`
`22:27.36`	`Kivin`	`spells > tradeskill > enchant > gloves`
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`22:27.51`	`Fin`	`elusif: riding skill`
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`22:29.49`	`CIA-12`	`03phanx * r61204 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (FuBar_FuXPFu.toc Libs/ embeds.xml):`
`22:29.49`	`CIA-12`	`FuBar_FuXPFu:`
`22:29.49`	`CIA-12`	`- Added AceHook-2.1 to externals`
`22:30.10`	`aestil`	`it didn't fix the issue.`
`22:30.10`	`aestil`	`stupid panels do`
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`22:30.25`	`elusif`	`ty guys`
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`22:34.02`	`aestil`	`freaking eepanels, why don't they just work.`
`22:34.15`	`aestil`	`does some event get fired when you open an ace3 config?`
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`22:35.40`	`aestil`	`woah. i just caught something. apparently when I go from inside to outside of a building, my eepanels scripts for grid stops working.`
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`22:40.32`	`aestil`	`opening ace3 config menu instantly kills my eepanels border around grid, which is a resize script.`
`22:40.42`	`aestil`	`whats happening when ace3 config opens that causes that?`
`22:41.21`	`nevcairiel`	`no idea ^^`
`22:41.33`	`nevcairiel`	`ace3 config shouldnt really do anything to it`
`22:41.58`	`nevcairiel`	`do your borders come back when the config is closed ? :P`
`22:42.00`	`Dashkal`	`Anybody familiar with AceSerializer3? If I feed it a table with a function in it, dose it choke or just strip the func?`
`22:42.04`	`sb_`	`aestil: eepanels works for me`
`22:42.15`	`nevcairiel`	`Dashkal: i think it complains`
`22:42.43`	`aestil`	`nevcairiel: no.`
`22:42.50`	`Dashkal`	`perfect. danke`
`22:42.58`	`aestil`	`there some really common thing that breaks this script that i have, and I don't know what it is.`
`22:43.03`	`aestil`	`i'm just trying to isolate it.`
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`22:43.28`	`aestil`	`the script resizes 3 eepanels to fit the size of the GridLayoutFrame.`
`22:43.36`	`NivFreak`	`bleh, this ct_raidtrackerimport plugin for eqdkp fails`
`22:44.00`	`NivFreak`	`it tries to use the raid/mob name as keys in hashes`
`22:44.14`	`aestil`	`http://ace.pastey.net/82143`
`22:44.17`	`aestil`	`thats the script.`
`22:44.21`	`CIA-12`	`03funkydude * r61205 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): BigWigs: Sunwell: Don't broadcast the translated boss name on boss death.`
`22:44.29`	`NivFreak`	`it does it such a way that Zul'Aman kills it`
`22:44.38`	`aestil`	`it randomly just doesn't work.`
`22:44.41`	`aestil`	`after it had been working.`
`22:44.57`	`CIA-12`	`03ackis * r61206 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:`
`22:44.57`	`CIA-12`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`22:44.57`	`CIA-12`	`- Changed Crayon to be with LibStub`
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`22:46.12`	`aestil`	`the script works as far as resizing when people join, or when there is a raid, etc...`
`22:46.57`	`aestil`	`besides ckk telling me i should use 'setpoint' instead. I don't know why it should just stop working. the panels 'collapse'`
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`22:49.35`	`charon_`	`morning`
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`22:50.44`	`purl`	`maia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 2h 48m 38s ago, saying: 'plus, the 'ding' sound on found auctions has a dog barking in the background.'.`
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`22:51.55`	`CIA-12`	`03benumbed * r61207 10DaPortrait/ (12 files):`
`22:51.55`	`CIA-12`	`DaPortrait: Initial Commit`
`22:51.55`	`CIA-12`	`- 3D Potrait Addon using Ace3.`
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`22:56.48`	`chiper`	`freenode, freenode, freenode is on fire.`
`22:57.01`	`ckknight`	`so let it burn`
`22:57.01`	`chiper`	`we don't need no water, let the mother fucker burn`
`22:57.48`	`Tem\|AFK`	`We didn't start the fire`
`22:57.57`	`Tem\|AFK`	`it was always burning since the world's been turning`
`22:58.17`	`chiper`	`some day I want to find the startrek version of that song`
`22:58.27`	`Fin`	`have you seen the flash version?`
`22:58.30`	`Fin`	`it's so awesome`
`22:58.31`	`Fin`	`so so awesome`
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`22:58.42`	`chiper`	`I've seen many different flash versions of that song`
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`22:59.26`	`charon`	`finally`
`22:59.55`	`CIA-12`	`03kagaro 07Ace3 * r61208 10HandyNotes_Mailboxes/HandyNotes_Mailboxes.lua: HandyNotes_Mailboxes: added range check for adding new mailboxes`
`23:00.11`	`NeoTron`	`anyone know how common Sunmotes are compared to, say, HoD's?`
`23:00.29`	`Fin`	`http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/v/we-didnt-start-the-fire.swf`
`23:01.25`	`nevcairiel`	`sunmotes are supposed to drop like the original HoD drop rate`
`23:01.30`	`nevcairiel`	`before it was adjusted`
`23:02.00`	`charon`	`so, i was tanking azgalor an hour ago or so, and noticed extreme TPS values. has anyone else observed that? is it something with that specific fight?`
`23:02.12`	`charon`	`i'm talking a regular 2kTPS, and spikes of >5k`
`23:02.27`	`charon`	`on omen/threat, naturally`
`23:02.33`	`aestil`	`if i use cartographer instance maps, i need cartographer notes, right?`
`23:02.44`	`Fin`	`don't think so?`
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`23:03.28`	`CIA-12`	`03benumbed * r61209 10DaPortrait/:`
`23:03.28`	`CIA-12`	`DaPortrait:`
`23:03.28`	`CIA-12`	`- Added Externals`
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`23:09.42`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: what is the prat module in Talanted doing? adding a talant lookup to the player link menu?`
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`23:11.08`	`chiper`	`if so, damn that's complicated`
`23:11.47`	`aestil`	`i must have done something screwy. eepanels gets 1.58 MB in memory growth instantly when that function runs for the resize script.`
`23:12.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`WTS SHOES`
`23:12.12`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper it adds talent links`
`23:12.45`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper it sends coded links which have talent specs`
`23:13.01`	`chiper`	`ok`
`23:13.18`	`chiper`	`it looks like theres some code here adding an item to a menu tho`
`23:14.20`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper yes`
`23:14.50`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper you can add menu options if you want`
`23:14.53`	`CIA-12`	`03benumbed * r61210 10DaPortrait/DaPortrait.toc:`
`23:14.53`	`CIA-12`	`DaPortrait:`
`23:14.53`	`CIA-12`	`- Updated TOC`
`23:16.27`	`aestil`	`anyone on use eepanels extensivily? my eepanels is 1.91MB. wondering if thats typical.`
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`23:17.09`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61211 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua):`
`23:17.09`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`23:17.09`	`CIA-12`	`- Added use of srcFlags and dstFlags to setup what one can for combatants, still needs Roster for level, class and trivial, as well as group change information (to affect bars dynamically).`
`23:17.09`	`CIA-12`	`- Prepared GUID and spellId use.`
`23:17.09`	`Gngsk`	`aestil, are you running embedded libs?`
`23:17.33`	`aestil`	`no.`
`23:17.39`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper all you need to do to make a module is "local Prat_SomeName = Prat:NewModule(Prat:RequestModuleName("SomeName"))"`
`23:18.10`	`Paradox`	`are there any alternatives to SCT/SCTD ?`
`23:18.15`	`aestil`	`parrot`
`23:18.17`	`aestil`	`msbt`
`23:18.22`	`Paradox`	`thanks`
`23:18.33`	`Gngsk`	`blizzard's fct`
`23:18.41`	`Paradox`	`haha the parrot description`
`23:18.52`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: aha, then I think I may know the problem`
`23:18.53`	`Paradox`	`was it created by cknight?`
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`23:19.20`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: the template has a slightly different line`
`23:19.43`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper the template does it better`
`23:20.03`	`Mudkipz`	`l;kj`
`23:21.58`	`chiper`	`oh, ok, I see it now. it breaks that up into two seperate lines`
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`23:26.56`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper you can look at the EventNames module for an example of how to use the Prat_PreAddMessage event`
`23:27.07`	`chiper`	`ok`
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`23:29.37`	`lykzme`	`whoever is the maker of deadly boss mod`
`23:29.41`	`lykzme`	`please read this`
`23:29.44`	`lykzme`	`dlbossmod is not a url`
`23:30.10`	`lykzme`	`please fix it withinside the files for your safety`
`23:31.10`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont think you can reach the DBM author here`
`23:31.19`	`keiss`	`lykzme: you sure ur in the right irc channel ?`
`23:31.27`	`lykzme`	`i dont know`
`23:32.04`	`chiper`	`yeah, dbm isnt an acemod IIRC`
`23:32.08`	`Paradox`	`are you sure you are on the correct internet?`
`23:32.24`	`Paradox`	`author might be on another internet`
`23:32.36`	`lykzme`	`what?`
`23:32.45`	`nevcairiel`	`there are different internets ? :D`
`23:32.47`	`lykzme`	`there is no other internet`
`23:32.57`	`Paradox`	`worth a try =(`
`23:33.01`	`lykzme`	`...`
`23:33.04`	`chiper`	`hehe`
`23:33.04`	`lykzme`	`dotn act like an ass`
`23:33.13`	`Ellipsis`	`Paradox, gtfo my internet`
`23:33.40`	`chiper`	`you want the other series of tubes`
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`23:34.21`	`CIA-12`	`03elsia 072.4 * r61212 10Recount/Recount.lua:`
`23:34.21`	`CIA-12`	`Recount:`
`23:34.21`	`CIA-12`	`- Fixed unitids for raidpets and partypets, fixed bug with partypets.`
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`23:41.03`	`HIghoS`	`lmao @ ckknight "I'm not wearing any pants"`
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`23:41.34`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`23:41.55`	`HIghoS`	`Thanks dude, that has made my night so far =) Always nice to read something funny in changelogs.`
`23:42.13`	`ckknight`	`yea, I often code without wearing pants`
`23:42.26`	`ckknight`	`that's clearly the issue I'm having here in the office`
`23:42.39`	`Civrock_`	`I never wear pants when I sit at my computer.`
`23:42.42`	`Civrock_`	`Who does anyway.`
`23:42.44`	`HIghoS`	`I'm a firm supporter of wearing what's comfortable. If that means nothing, so be it!`
`23:42.57`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`I do, my chair chafes sometimes.`
`23:43.36`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`There's also that whole, "at work" thing.`
`23:43.46`	`sylvanaar`	`does anyone here use avion?`
`23:43.53`	`chiper`	`ckknight: btw. does fubar require Rock?`
`23:44.13`	`chiper`	`last night I accidently disabled rock, and fubar through a fit`
`23:44.29`	`ckknight`	`yes, chiper`
`23:44.54`	`chiper`	`isnt there supposed to be some kind of required dependancy to keep wow from loading fubar if rock is missing?`
`23:45.07`	`Antiarc`	`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021308_164320.jpg`
`23:45.37`	`Dashkal`	`Antiarc: That's hot, where is that from?`
`23:45.41`	`Antiarc`	`I just wrote it`
`23:45.43`	`chiper`	`Antiarc: spiffy`
`23:45.52`	`Stanzilla`	`lol nice Antiarc`
`23:45.54`	`Dashkal`	`Very cool`
`23:46.13`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: hehe, neat`
`23:46.28`	`chiper`	`antiarc: is that grabbing from the new log changes?`
`23:46.29`	`ckknight`	`thumbs up`
`23:46.29`	`Antiarc`	`Besides being useful, it'll help me write Threat's 2.4-compatible boss modules`
`23:46.31`	`Dashkal`	`I'd find such a tool to be very handy. I can never remember which mob does what`
`23:46.31`	`Antiarc`	`chiper: Yes`
`23:46.45`	`chiper`	`ah, so it can only list mobs I've been in combat with :(`
`23:47.13`	`Pkekyo\|`	`FUCK YES! I FINALLY SOLD THESE FUCING SHOES!`
`23:47.25`	`Pkekyo\|`	`fucking*`
`23:47.28`	`Antiarc`	`chiper: Yes, unless someone puts together a database of it`
`23:47.31`	`Dashkal`	`chiper: Heh, I imagine we could put together a merged data set for such a tool (cartographer_data?)`
`23:47.36`	`Dashkal`	`too slow`
`23:47.44`	`chiper`	`oh sure, but that takes time :)`
`23:48.36`	`Dashkal`	`Actually... I'd love to be able to automatically submit that sort of data to the web databases...`
`23:50.35`	`chiper`	`sylvanaar: so, if I'm understanding this right, I just monitor PreAddMessage for the right event, and when I get it I alter the message contents to my own?`
`23:50.45`	`chiper`	`holy hell that's easy`
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`23:51.38`	`chiper`	`hardest part's gonna be doing the data replacement`
`23:52.25`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper yes - the parameter "message" is a table with a bunch of fields which represent different parts of the chat text. In your case I think the majority of the text will be in the message.MESSAGE field`
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`23:52.56`	`chiper`	`sweet, I cant wait to dive into this`
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`23:55.23`	`rubik`	`that MobSpells screenie looks sweet`
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`23:55.25`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper once you see the contents of the message table it should be pretty clear`
`23:55.32`	`chiper`	`nod`
`23:55.56`	`chiper`	`do you remember offhand which lua file that table is defined in?`
`23:56.27`	`sylvanaar`	`prat.lua`
`23:56.33`	`chiper`	`figures :P`
`23:57.47`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper Prat.SplitMessageIdx shows you the names of the fields, and what order they are in.`
`23:58.45`	`sylvanaar`	`chiper there are API's to add more fields so you can insert text somewhere in the chat text without worrying about it being overwritten or messing something else up`

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