| 00:00.17 | Killmore | Elsia: my increasing rate is like 180 kib/sec |
| 00:01.07 | Shadowed | Alright so what do people think of http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9347/imageid4.png ? Not sure if I put too much info, red border = you lost to them, green = won, NA = Nagrand Arena, BEA = Blades edge, ect. |
| 00:01.17 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar * r60995 10/branches/Prat_WIM/: Created folder remotely |
| 00:01.19 | Killmore | my WIM (warcraft instant messenger) increase like hell and when I click on recount "reset recount" the WIM go down in memory usage, ?!? |
| 00:01.52 | Arrowmaster | embeded librarys |
| 00:01.58 | sylvanaar | ever since i deleted the entire branches tree im always a little scared when i do that |
| 00:02.12 | Guillotine | also, I believe reset recount does GC? |
| 00:03.36 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, doh i made my parser so all suffixes was only one word like BASIC_EVENT_SUFFIX, and then just splited it on last _ to basic and suffix. Gotta figure out something smarter then |
| 00:03.52 | Poul|Raider | as there are alot of 2 word suffixes |
| 00:03.55 | Poul|Raider | or 3word |
| 00:04.23 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar 07Prat_WIM * r60996 10Prat_WIM/: Prat_WIM: branching to new location |
| 00:04.25 | Arrowmaster | you should probably match the types directly and not do any string manipulation on them |
| 00:04.31 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60997 10Recount/ (. Recount.toc Tracker.lua embeds.xml): |
| 00:04.31 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 00:04.31 | CIA-10 | - Added Babble-Boss/Race, added events for SPELL_INTERRUPT and SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS, added debug text line for empty abilities bug. |
| 00:05.00 | Elsia | poul: recount only does a prefix/suffix split.. |
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| 00:05.17 | Poul|Raider | ye, Arrowmaster, i just splited em from the first post i did read on ui forum. |
| 00:05.38 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, ye but how to determine where its splited |
| 00:05.39 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar 07Prat_WIM * r60998 10Prat_WIM/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Prat_WIM: Merged with WIM 2.3 |
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| 00:05.42 | Elsia | you can check recount code how I did it there |
| 00:05.49 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 00:06.08 | Elsia | poul: you just hard-code parameters to functions, you know the order from the table in the post |
| 00:06.08 | Elsia | no need to split anything |
| 00:06.08 | sylvanaar | sorry, there are a bunch of separate commits i have to make |
| 00:06.09 | Arrowmaster | the problem with the old combatlog was all the string manipulation, would be bad to make the same mistake with the new one |
| 00:06.45 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Even if you ignored the string manpipulation, you had localization issues with things like German localizations using different ordering |
| 00:06.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:06.59 | Poul|Raider | ye Arrowmaster, just for what im doign it seamed easyer to split em up instead of making SWING_MISSED|DAMAGE|and so on |
| 00:07.31 | Elsia | poul: is this for wws? or in-game? |
| 00:07.32 | Arrowmaster | but even on just a enUS client the parserlibs helped a lot due to reduced string spliting |
| 00:07.32 | Poul|Raider | doing a c# parser |
| 00:08.05 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, wws parser |
| 00:08.05 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar 07Prat_WIM_Options * r60999 10Prat_WIM/: Prat_WIM_Options: Moved to new location |
| 00:08.05 | Elsia | ah i see |
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| 00:08.05 | Poul|Raider | but might just make a enum with all posible event combination |
| 00:08.05 | Elsia | in that case I'd just parse by full event type... |
| 00:08.06 | Poul|Raider | and handle it from that |
| 00:08.16 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar 07Prat_WIM_Options * r61000 10Prat_WIM/ (. Prat_WIM_Options.toc WIM_Options.toc WIM_Options.xml): Prat_WIM_Options: Merged with WIM 2.3 |
| 00:08.40 | Poul|Raider | save alot of roundtrips from not splitting and then combining alot of stuff again later |
| 00:09.10 | kbh | fire mage max dps with spriest and shaman in group - how many points in improved fire blast are needed? |
| 00:10.26 | Elsia | event type is the key to the semantics of all the arguments, so keep everything together |
| 00:10.37 | sylvanaar | how do you think i should handle that options addon - 2 addons? |
| 00:11.03 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, ye but the arguments are still based on the baseevent and the suffix |
| 00:11.16 | Poul|Raider | but ye gonna make my handler based on the full event |
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| 00:11.26 | Elsia | new recount zip at: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/download/46655/ |
| 00:11.28 | Poul|Raider | will save roundtrips at the end anyway |
| 00:11.57 | Elsia | poul: some sufficies change the semantics drastically... e.g. a _MISSED is very different than a _DAMAGE |
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| 00:13.27 | Wogroipl | w00t Kael first kill just now :) |
| 00:13.31 | Poul|Raider | but its still based on the baseevent + the suffix, so if i got it splitted i would just cobine it at the end. But again, the more i think of it it just seam easyer to not split it from the start and then parse the argument based on the full event |
| 00:13.38 | Wogroipl | awesome fight |
| 00:13.39 | Poul|Raider | the event enum gets abit bigger but well |
| 00:14.01 | Cryect | isn't there easy string splitting in c#? |
| 00:14.06 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 00:14.14 | Poul|Raider | string.split() :D |
| 00:14.23 | Cryect | yeah been a while since I've used it |
| 00:14.25 | Pkekyo| | BLARBLARBLARBLAR |
| 00:14.33 | Poul|Raider | Split(new char[] { ',' },8); |
| 00:15.02 | Poul|Raider | would split the event into the base 7 event arguemtn and then put the rest in [8] |
| 00:15.05 | Poul|Raider | [7] |
| 00:15.06 | Elsia | anyway, late for me... nite everybody |
| 00:15.12 | Poul|Raider | night Elsia |
| 00:15.17 | Poul|Raider | the post gave good info |
| 00:15.25 | Cryect | night |
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| 00:22.16 | Antiarc | Is it possible to get spell IDs from your existing buffs? |
| 00:22.31 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 00:23.06 | Pkekyo| | everyone working their arse off for the UniqueID stuff coming with the patch? :> |
| 00:23.15 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking about something similar because i was wanting to fix up TopScoreFu |
| 00:23.38 | Antiarc | I'm moving to a purely spell ID system for Threat-2.0, if possible |
| 00:23.48 | Antiarc | But I need to be able to scan your buffs on login and construct a threat modifier from them |
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| 00:25.00 | Arrowmaster | thinking of listening to all buff/debuff gains/losses and for ones that i dont like adding them to a table for the guid (not really the guid but part of it) and removing them when theyre removed and if the table isnt empty ignore any new records on that mob |
| 00:25.00 | Antiarc | Haha! |
| 00:25.05 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.11 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 00:25.15 | Antiarc | |Hspell:1242|h |
| 00:25.17 | Arrowmaster | thats only for your own |
| 00:25.22 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 00:25.28 | Arrowmaster | your a priest right? |
| 00:25.29 | Antiarc | Hrm. Let's see. |
| 00:25.33 | Antiarc | I'm testing as a priest, yes |
| 00:25.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah try the lowest arcane int rank 1 |
| 00:25.53 | Antiarc | Bah, no dice |
| 00:26.10 | Arrowmaster | post a request for spellids from buffs |
| 00:26.18 | Antiarc | I will |
| 00:26.19 | Shadowed | Antiarc: Are you using GetspellInfo? |
| 00:26.20 | Antiarc | However - |
| 00:26.22 | Shadowed | GetSpellInfo* |
| 00:26.26 | Antiarc | Shadowed: Yup |
| 00:26.31 | Antiarc | I just did GetSpellInfo(1243) |
| 00:26.32 | Shadowed | You know you can pass it the direct name, if it's in your spell book |
| 00:26.46 | Antiarc | Shadowed: I know. I need to resolve name/rank into spell ID |
| 00:26.49 | Antiarc | And it may not be in my spellbook. |
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| 00:27.36 | Arrowmaster | if we dont get a way to get a spellid from a buff or such without watching the combatlog we may need to keep babble-spell around |
| 00:27.47 | Arrowmaster | but use spellids as the key instead of enUS name |
| 00:27.48 | Pkekyo| | any idea if talents that improve abilities have their own IDs? ie. imp. sunder armor 2/3 |
| 00:28.00 | Arrowmaster | the talent does |
| 00:28.07 | Arrowmaster | the ability wont i dont think |
| 00:28.16 | Arrowmaster | look at spells on wowhead or wowdb |
| 00:28.22 | Shadowed | yea it won't |
| 00:28.31 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah we need spellid from talent |
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| 00:28.49 | Antiarc | Well, here's an idea - |
| 00:28.50 | Shadowed | wowhead has the talent spell, but not 3 copies of each rank of SA with different levels of -rage |
| 00:28.54 | Antiarc | We can do automatic localization |
| 00:29.04 | Antiarc | Because we know the spell name in english, and the spell ID |
| 00:29.17 | Arrowmaster | so we can scan the talents and know that the player has 2/3 imp sunder armor without having to know the exact spot of imp sunder armor in the talent frame |
| 00:29.18 | Antiarc | So you can just GetSpellInfo for the id and correlate it right there |
| 00:29.33 | Pkekyo| | I was just using SA as an example, was thinking ie. a talent that improves the threat an ability causes |
| 00:29.41 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: we talked about this lastnight for a babble-boss that learns |
| 00:30.05 | Arrowmaster | main thing is change the keys to be ids instead of enUS names |
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| 00:30.53 | Arrowmaster | then even when doing addon comms we can use the spellid and never have to convert to english before sending |
| 00:31.12 | Arrowmaster | or bossid |
| 00:31.17 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar * r61001 10Prat_WIM/: Prat_WIM: Good enough. Don't try to run WIM and Prat_WIM at the same time. |
| 00:31.54 | kergoth | sylvanaar: so prat_wim is wim's functionality merged into prat? |
| 00:32.17 | Pkekyo| | so...localizations for bosses, abilities etc will dissapear completely? |
| 00:32.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:32.24 | Pkekyo| | - replaced by IDs, that is |
| 00:32.26 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar * r61002 10Prat_WIM_Options/: Prat_WIM_Options: Options for Prat_WIM. Identical to the WIM version, just forked. |
| 00:32.36 | sylvanaar | its prats functionality added to wim |
| 00:32.51 | Arrowmaster | we figure we still need babble-boss for mouseover bigwigs module activation |
| 00:33.19 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 00:33.26 | Arrowmaster | but i think converting the table keys to boss identifiers that we extract from the guid would be better |
| 00:33.28 | Pkekyo| | right, makes sense |
| 00:34.06 | sylvanaar | kergoth i debated just making a patcher instead, i still dunno if this was the best choice |
| 00:34.07 | Arrowmaster | if i didnt have to raid in less than 30 minutes id probably be writing a bunch of code |
| 00:35.01 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 00:35.40 | kergoth | ah, i see |
| 00:37.36 | sylvanaar | this works i think - its clearly forked this way i guess |
| 00:38.13 | Pkekyo| | bwahahaha, someone cracked Vista SP1 allready |
| 00:38.29 | lagger` | how do i use a texture tag like {star} |
| 00:38.44 | Pkekyo| | lagger`: context? |
| 00:38.47 | sylvanaar | you wait for them to add suport for it on the test realm |
| 00:39.20 | lagger` | o |
| 00:39.23 | lagger` | they didnt add it =\ |
| 00:39.27 | sylvanaar | no |
| 00:44.47 | CIA-10 | 03peragor 07AutoLayout * r61003 10Grid/: New branch of Grid for the GridLayoutPlus merge |
| 00:45.40 | CIA-10 | 03endeavour * r61004 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:45.40 | CIA-10 | BossTalk: |
| 00:45.40 | CIA-10 | - New option: Memory-economic mode. |
| 00:45.40 | CIA-10 | Enable this function in order to decrease memory usage by more than fifty |
| 00:45.40 | CIA-10 | percent. Then, however, you need to generate the boss menu manually. This |
| 00:45.41 | CIA-10 | doesn't affect neither shortcuts, nor favourites, nor events. Changes will only |
| 00:45.45 | CIA-10 | show up after relogging or reloading your interface. |
| 00:45.47 | CIA-10 | 03peragor 07AutoLayout * r61005 10Grid/Grid/: Grid "AutoLayout" |
| 00:46.36 | CIA-10 | 03archarodim * r61006 10Decursive/ (localization.fr.lua localization.lua): |
| 00:46.36 | CIA-10 | Decursive: |
| 00:46.36 | CIA-10 | - The missing-macro-binding-key message is now more compelling ; bigger chance to make the user look at the options (at least to find the check box to disable the message :/ ) |
| 00:47.49 | CIA-10 | 03peragor 07AutoLayout * r61007 10Grid/Grid/: I'm SVN impaired |
| 00:48.07 | lagger` | is there documentation for adding options to panels yet |
| 00:49.55 | CIA-10 | 03peragor 07AutoLayout * r61008 10Grid/Grid/: Copied remotely |
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| 00:54.23 | aestil | how's 2.4 combat log coming? |
| 00:54.26 | lagger` | nvm i can just painfully try to understand the lua |
| 00:55.59 | CIA-10 | 03peragor * r61009 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 00:55.59 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 00:55.59 | CIA-10 | - Fixed small bug that prevented the layout from collapsing when layout is sorted "By Group" and when layout grows and then should shrink when the maxsubgroup is no longer used. |
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| 00:58.44 | Pkekyo| | lagger`: try some basic stuff, don't bother with the new stuff yet - you'll get to that eventually |
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| 01:10.31 | dan-g | 10Hi, got a question about Grid... is there any way to set it so that the groups are reversed - i.e., group one is furthest to the right, and group five furthest to the left? I haven't been able to find a setting that will allow me to. |
| 01:10.47 | Stanzilla | zomg colors! |
| 01:13.43 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.21 | Pkekyo| | dan-g: get rid of the bloody colors, you're not gonna get an answer if you burn everyone's retinas |
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| 01:17.14 | Killmore | wtf about blizzard_feedback, taking like 10mib and make me lag like heal |
| 01:17.16 | Killmore | hell |
| 01:17.17 | Poul|Raider | i have good news! |
| 01:17.18 | Poul|Raider | This year's Blizzard Entertainment Worldwide Invitational is coming to the Porte de Versailles Exposition Center in Paris, France on June 28-29. |
| 01:17.27 | Poul|Raider | In addition, StarCraft II and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King will be playable by everyone on the show floor. |
| 01:17.32 | KsDra | there goes our server :P |
| 01:17.34 | Poul|Raider | so you will all get time to clear sunwell! |
| 01:17.36 | Poul|Raider | :DD |
| 01:17.38 | Poul|Raider | haha |
| 01:18.55 | NivFreak | I played thier WotLK demo at gencon indy |
| 01:18.59 | NivFreak | it was pretty thin |
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| 01:20.06 | Dan-1 | ...is my text still colored? |
| 01:20.20 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 01:20.40 | Dan-1 | Lesson learned. Astra sucks at IRC. |
| 01:22.10 | Dan-1 | So, lets try this again. Question about Grid... is there any way to set it so that the groups are reversed - i.e., group one is furthest to the right, and group five furthest to the left? |
| 01:22.50 | KsDra | well you can add it yourself, the layouts are very easy to code |
| 01:23.05 | KsDra | if you go on the grid forums theres plenty of stuff on people coding custom layouts |
| 01:24.18 | Dan-1 | I'll go look there, thanks. |
| 01:24.54 | Flippidy | Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the # infront of a variable (for n=1,(#var-1)/8 do) means? |
| 01:25.57 | Ellipsis | #var is the number of elements in var |
| 01:26.44 | Flippidy | I see, thank you :) |
| 01:29.38 | Pkekyo| | blarblarblarblar |
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| 01:32.43 | Antiarc | http://i28.tinypic.com/24grvp1.jpg |
| 01:33.34 | keiss | lol |
| 01:33.36 | Ellipsis | hax |
| 01:33.45 | Antiarc | That's the new spirit/int scaling with Innervate |
| 01:34.06 | dylanm | Insane. |
| 01:34.10 | keiss | expect to be nerfed :D |
| 01:34.13 | Pkekyo| | that's just fucking evil, Antiarc |
| 01:34.32 | Corgan | holy wow |
| 01:34.32 | Corgan | lol |
| 01:35.25 | NivFreak | Antiarc: hahahaha |
| 01:35.59 | Primer | pardon my ignorance, but what is that thing in the ammo slot? |
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| 01:36.26 | Antiarc | Likely an idol |
| 01:36.39 | Primer | is that a racial thing? |
| 01:36.48 | NivFreak | did anyone copy a holy pally over to the ptr? |
| 01:36.52 | Ellipsis | on a priest? |
| 01:36.55 | Corgan | it's a wand... |
| 01:36.59 | Primer | yeah...because that's a priest... |
| 01:37.00 | keiss | looks like ammo to me |
| 01:37.01 | Antiarc | No, it's a druid thing |
| 01:37.02 | KivinSan | i see bullets |
| 01:37.03 | Primer | not that wand |
| 01:37.07 | Primer | the ammo slot |
| 01:37.14 | keiss | he means right of the wand |
| 01:37.21 | Corgan | oh, what |
| 01:38.08 | Primer | so any class can put bullets or arrows into an ammo slot? |
| 01:38.11 | Primer | I mean, wtf... |
| 01:38.32 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r61010 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Fix bug so that people in groups specified by the group filter can whisper the NRT user to be added to the wait list again. |
| 01:42.10 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: does bartender3 support the possesion stance yet? |
| 01:42.47 | NivFreak | anyone with a holy pally on the PTR? |
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| 01:45.28 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, when doing the bitwise and to check if a flag is in raid, does the MINE and PARTY also return true if checking on the RAID or do i need to check for all 3 if want them all |
| 01:45.32 | Corgan | hi |
| 01:45.37 | Corgan | I have no idea |
| 01:45.39 | Corgan | :D |
| 01:45.41 | Poul|Raider | oki :) |
| 01:45.45 | Poul|Raider | guess i could check |
| 01:46.51 | Primer | Can one play on the PTR and have another computer playing on the normal server? |
| 01:46.53 | Poul|Raider | but well, one days work to make the backend of my parser. Got all event and actors as objects and just need to parse it to a usefull output :) |
| 01:47.12 | Primer | on a character that was copied over, that is? |
| 01:47.26 | Poul|Raider | make abit of class lookup with armory |
| 01:47.40 | NivFreak | Primer: yes, you can |
| 01:48.23 | Primer | cool |
| 01:48.54 | Primer | my kids has several toons, and I've been meaning to try a full demonology spec, but don't want to re-spec on live, because I'm cheap |
| 01:49.00 | Primer | s/kids/kid/ |
| 01:49.10 | Primer | I have 2 kids, but only one is old enough to play |
| 01:51.17 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r61011 10Grid/ (GridRange.lua GridStatusHealth.lua): Grid: finish converting Babble-Spell from 2.2 to 3.0. |
| 01:54.19 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r61012 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:54.19 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:54.19 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
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| 01:55.31 | KivinSan | For what reason might a CreateFrame("Button") frame remember it's location (and ignore SetPoint!) across sessions? Could :RegisterForDrag do it? |
| 01:57.52 | phyber | probably some ass backwards feature. one of the devs that added the awesome drinking change got to slouken's keyboard! |
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| 01:58.26 | Primer | So I have this addon that creates a frame. I've been asked to allow it to be scalable. Is that simply a matter of setting some sort of attribute? |
| 01:58.36 | Primer | scalable and movable, that is |
| 01:59.02 | KivinSan | :SetScale(1.15) |
| 01:59.17 | Primer | hrmm, I need to test this! |
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| 02:06.20 | NeoTron | so when omen resets threat, it seems like it doesn't reset data needed to calculate TPS? |
| 02:06.30 | Primer | dammit, I can't test it because my nvidia's all broken |
| 02:06.33 | Primer | stupid fedora |
| 02:06.35 | NeoTron | because on Illidan, the MT generates -2039 TPS and similar fun numbers |
| 02:06.47 | Primer | updated my libs before the damn kernel was upgraded |
| 02:07.09 | KarlThePagan | Xinhuan, ping - GatherHud.lua:250: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'offset' (a nil value) |
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| 02:12.06 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r61013 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - properly recognize <= and >=. Also firm up the parser a bit to not recognize blank ("") tags |
| 02:13.29 | aestil | i want a new dmg meter!!! |
| 02:13.33 | aestil | QQ |
| 02:13.42 | aestil | i should get the ptr. |
| 02:15.30 | Cryect | heh, I might be working on a Recount 2 but we will see |
| 02:15.37 | aestil | might be? |
| 02:15.39 | aestil | :) |
| 02:15.40 | KivinSan | one more try: what could I be doing to cause a CreateFrame() frame to end up in the layout-cache, and how can i prevent it form happening? |
| 02:15.55 | aestil | in the end it would be far less computationally intensive and at least as memory intensive, right? |
| 02:16.14 | Cryect | Parts might be more computationally expensive and others might be less |
| 02:16.38 | Cryect | the way I'm thinking of storing data might be less memory intensive overall |
| 02:16.59 | aestil | new features would be more computationally intensive, but, the new events would be 'cheaper' than a parser generating those events, right? |
| 02:17.03 | Cryect | But might be more computationally expensive |
| 02:17.18 | aestil | isn't memory cheap? |
| 02:17.20 | Cryect | well maybe the parser was never really that expensive |
| 02:17.36 | Cryect | yes, but people still bitch about memory usage :-p |
| 02:18.45 | Cryect | Anyways its less about memory usage so much as more flexibility in how you can display/record the data |
| 02:18.53 | aestil | more like wws? |
| 02:19.14 | Cryect | WWS wasn't that flexible last time I was looking at it |
| 02:19.41 | Cryect | it was a lot of hardcoded stuff mainly |
| 02:19.44 | aestil | you can pretty easily look at it by fight, overall, trash only, priests only, indivudulals. |
| 02:19.49 | kenlyric | is there a way to make gathermate think all gold is mithril? |
| 02:19.56 | aestil | new wws is showing group makeup as well. |
| 02:19.59 | kenlyric | errr, all gold is iron |
| 02:20.00 | aestil | as a way of sortin git. |
| 02:20.37 | Cryect | I like how leaving feral forms is bugged on PTR |
| 02:20.50 | Cryect | so I have LotP and track humanoids in Human Form |
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| 02:27.06 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan * r61014 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Fix for GatherHud.lua:250: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'offset' (a nil value) |
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| 02:36.14 | Pkekyo| | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 02:36.16 | purl | cncfanatics <n=evolve@83.215-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 12m 3s ago, saying: 'ChatFrame1:AddMessage(); > GM's'. |
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| 02:43.46 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r61015 10Skillet/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:43.46 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 02:43.46 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.46 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.46 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:53.30 | CIA-10 | 03scorpion * r61016 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 02:53.30 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 02:53.30 | CIA-10 | - update zhTW |
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| 02:56.09 | Pkekyo| | DINGALINGDINGDINGDINGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG |
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| 03:08.36 | break19 | heh |
| 03:08.54 | Pkekyo| | I'm off, g'nite lads and lasses |
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| 03:08.57 | break19 | I wish the dev svn admin(s) would answer my dadgum email.. :) |
| 03:09.06 | break19 | nite pk |
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| 03:14.33 | CIA-10 | 03scorpion * r61017 10Grid/GridLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 03:14.33 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 03:14.33 | CIA-10 | - update zhTW |
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| 03:19.13 | vithos | !points 609 |
| 03:19.14 | Xinhuan | 609 arena points require 1702(5s), 1756(3s) and 1827(2s) team rating. |
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| 03:20.05 | vithos | !rating 1725 |
| 03:20.05 | Xinhuan | 1725 rating gives 644(5s), 567(3s) and 490(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 03:20.26 | vithos | !points 644 |
| 03:20.27 | Xinhuan | 644 arena points require 1725(5s), 1782(3s) and 1856(2s) team rating. |
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| 03:21.10 | Arrowmaster | YAY BROKEN LEGION IS BACK! |
| 03:21.16 | Arrowmaster | in the middle of RoS trash |
| 03:21.23 | Arrowmaster | and everybody locks up |
| 03:24.39 | Cryect | at least its fast trash |
| 03:25.09 | Arrowmaster | and now the entire raid is looking at a full blue bar |
| 03:25.33 | Arrowmaster | "No instance servers are available" |
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| 03:26.13 | Cryect | well that sucks |
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| 03:27.37 | aestil | broken legoin? |
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| 03:28.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats our name for it |
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| 03:39.45 | Primer | Does anyone here develop from multiple machines? Would it be unusual for me to use my branch as trunk, so I can develop on one machine, svn commit so I can "collaborate with myself", then commit to trunk so the auto-zipper thing can do its thing on "release" code? |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-10 | 03nogudnik * r61018 10Skillet/SkilletQueue.lua: |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.59 | Primer | I find it odd that zips aren't made from non-trunk code |
| 03:40.33 | Cryect | Well ideally you work on branch with code not ready for release |
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| 03:44.50 | keiss | Primer: why cant you just use the branch and/or trunk from multiple machines ? just commit when ur done with the changes ur doing on 1 machine , and then just update/merge on the other one ? |
| 03:45.15 | break19 | Primer: ssh is your friend. develop on the same machine, ssh from the others to the development machine |
| 03:45.28 | keiss | or that |
| 03:45.39 | Primer | I already have rsync going one way |
| 03:45.46 | Primer | rsync over ssh, that is |
| 03:45.55 | Primer | guess I'll just need to go the other way too |
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| 03:49.54 | Primer | I've never liked doing svn merge though |
| 03:50.01 | RaydenUni | hello |
| 03:50.27 | RaydenUni | any of you in the warhammer beta or familiar with the game? |
| 03:50.31 | Primer | I suppose I could just svn export the branch into my trunk and commit |
| 03:50.34 | chexsum | lots of people use dev code every day |
| 03:50.57 | chexsum | we arent writing life support nmachines |
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| 03:51.27 | Primer | except I'd be committing half-written code for the purposes of just svn up'ing at home |
| 03:51.40 | Primer | so I don't have to manually sync 2, possibly 3, trees |
| 03:51.57 | Primer | I think I'll just do that |
| 03:52.18 | chexsum | mergings only a problem with multiple coders |
| 03:53.32 | Primer | I don't like having to keep track of revisions |
| 03:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Primer: imo, given the state of wowace svn, develop in branch, then when you want to "release" it, just do a merge to trunk. |
| 03:53.36 | chexsum | time to get drunk and fix my buggy addon heh |
| 03:53.38 | Primer | or have they finally solved that? |
| 03:53.51 | Primer | NightHawkTheSane: that's what I'm doing |
| 03:54.41 | smoke_ | has the combatlog api changed for 2.4? |
| 03:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | you really only have to maintain 2 (and really,its only like 1.5) branches then. |
| 03:55.44 | smoke_ | if i were to try make a small bigwigs boss mod would it still work? |
| 03:55.54 | smoke_ | using examples of previous bigwigs bossaddon of course |
| 03:56.04 | chexsum | smoke_, yeah see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=1 & http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11294.msg178718 |
| 03:56.08 | NightHawkTheSane | You ever go to the grocery store, then a day later wonder "what in gods name did i BUY? I have no FOOD?!?" |
| 03:56.12 | chexsum | we dont need any parsers anymore |
| 03:56.16 | CIA-10 | 03barfolomeu * r61019 10/branches/FlightHUD/: FlightHUD: Create a branch tree so I can develop easily from multiple places and keep trunk for releases. |
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| 03:56.28 | Primer | heh, guess all commits come here, eh |
| 03:56.42 | Primer | there's no hiding from the CIA! |
| 03:56.52 | NightHawkTheSane | well, unless CIA's being a broken douche :P |
| 03:56.55 | CIA-10 | ow |
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| 03:58.08 | smoke_ | thanks |
| 03:58.09 | Ellipsis | there is some magic that can hide from CIA |
| 03:58.21 | Ellipsis | but it's not to be spoken of |
| 03:58.57 | KivinSan | I've got 3 arena rounds checked in this week. can I solo the remaining 7 just to get the 10 rounds checked in? |
| 03:59.16 | chexsum | yeah |
| 03:59.30 | chexsum | some people do nothing but solo for points lol |
| 03:59.49 | KivinSan | alright, and if someone leaves the team before the tuesday morning check in but has their 30% checked in, do they still get points? |
| 04:00.12 | chexsum | i dont think so :\ |
| 04:00.19 | Thorgard | Probably not since you need to be in a team to get points. |
| 04:00.40 | Kivin | yikes. just found out the max persons on a 2v2 team is 4, and 3 of them are my own chars |
| 04:00.49 | KarlThePagan | thx xin ;) |
| 04:01.11 | chexsum | 1 person always misses points |
| 04:01.28 | Xinhuan | it happens, the update to gathermate for the treasure db wasn't updated in accessory addons |
| 04:01.33 | Primer | Heh, all my "collaborate with myself" commits are gonna come here too |
| 04:01.49 | Xinhuan | not a big deal |
| 04:02.07 | Xinhuan | branch commits are usually meant for your convenience |
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| 04:02.20 | Xinhuan | so if someone subscribed to RSS or somethnig, that's their issue for getting spammed :) |
| 04:02.39 | Primer | not like I've committed much anyhow |
| 04:02.51 | CIA-10 | 03barfolomeu * r61020 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua Locale-enUS.lua): FlightHUD: Collaborate with myself |
| 04:03.01 | Primer | woot! |
| 04:04.46 | RaydenUni | instances are down? |
| 04:05.32 | Ellipsis | all instances in the entire universe are down |
| 04:05.42 | Ellipsis | also, the world is going to end, enjoy the ride |
| 04:07.36 | Kivin | Quick Q: Does :SetUserPlaced(false) persist through the lifetime of the frame it's used on, or does it need to be called after each :SetPoint to shut off the layout cache? |
| 04:08.59 | Xinhuan | Kivin, a frame gets saved to the layout cache WHEN you do one of the following |
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| 04:09.34 | Xinhuan | 1. Drag the frame (via the automated :OnDragStart) or 2. via StartMoving 3. StartSizing |
| 04:09.50 | Xinhuan | 4. SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 04:10.09 | Xinhuan | any of the first 3 will cause 4. to occur |
| 04:10.14 | Kivin | Xinhuan: That doesn't quite answer the question |
| 04:10.18 | Xinhuan | and the frame will have its parent set to nil, with the anchors appropriate |
| 04:10.25 | Xinhuan | to UIParent |
| 04:10.32 | Kivin | Will :SetUserPlaced(false) interrupt the layout cache if used after every set point? |
| 04:10.42 | Xinhuan | setpoint doesn't affect layout cache saving. |
| 04:11.01 | Kivin | alright, after each :StopMovingOrSizing(), then? |
| 04:11.10 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 04:11.35 | Xinhuan | the frame positions in layout-cache is applied just before VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 04:11.38 | Xinhuan | after every addon is loaded |
| 04:12.03 | Xinhuan | so if you use VARIABLES_LOADED to apply your settings, it'll work fine (remember to call :ClearAllPoints()) |
| 04:12.19 | Kivin | Alright, current implementation saves :GetPoint() into saved vars and calls SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 04:12.21 | Xinhuan | or you must manually :SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 04:12.31 | Xinhuan | in every possible place where it can get turned on to true |
| 04:12.55 | Xinhuan | that is a fairly standard technique |
| 04:13.42 | Kivin | apparently it's not possible to solo arena |
| 04:13.50 | Xinhuan | <OnDragStop> self:stopmovingorsizing() local a, b, c, d, e = self:GetPoint() (save a, c, d, e) self:SetUserPlaced(false) </ondragstop> |
| 04:13.59 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 04:14.09 | Xinhuan | but you get the idea |
| 04:14.11 | Kivin | this isn't with XML |
| 04:14.14 | Kivin | that's the part that puzzled me |
| 04:14.19 | Xinhuan | its the same idea |
| 04:14.24 | Kivin | i didn't think layout cache worked for createFrame() frames |
| 04:14.27 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 04:14.38 | Xinhuan | but only with frames that are created before VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 04:14.48 | Xinhuan | because that event is fired once layout-cache.txt is loaded |
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| 04:15.05 | Xinhuan | is that clear? |
| 04:15.09 | Kivin | Yeah |
| 04:15.35 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/82076 that should work now, though i can't build it til i get this arena rubbish straightened off |
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| 04:23.05 | Xinhuan | kivin |
| 04:23.06 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493583974&postId=44929601931&sid=1#4 |
| 04:23.43 | Kivin | *nod nod* |
| 04:24.15 | Xinhuan | my reply should explain it |
| 04:24.26 | Kivin | Yep, i'm sure it'll be fine once I get a chance to try this. Thanks. |
| 04:24.44 | Flippidy | Hmm, anyone know of a quick way to output lua code in wow, that is copy/pasteable? AddMessage doesnt quite cut it. |
| 04:24.55 | Kivin | I added two :SetUserPlaced(false) in, one immediately after the frame is created, so the inital placement works. Another after every :StopMovingOrSizing |
| 04:25.12 | Kivin | Flippidy: WowLua is a Lua console |
| 04:25.28 | Kivin | it's on wowi |
| 04:25.55 | Kivin | out, the output of the lua isn't copyable, i guess |
| 04:25.55 | Flippidy | ah, thanks! gonna check it out. |
| 04:26.10 | Kivin | you can paste in to it, but not copy the print() output |
| 04:26.44 | Flippidy | Yeah, I was thinking more of a dialogue kinda thing, with scrollbars. I though i might use some existing api's to set up the frame |
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| 04:42.43 | Killmore | I hate the new combatlog, why he always give wrong info ? like I did a fireball crit of 5400 on a team mate ? (im a priest) |
| 04:43.09 | Killmore | or a dps get a "your circle of healing heal for 500" |
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| 04:43.34 | Kivin | welcome to beta? |
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| 04:44.50 | Arrowmaster | its probably because their usage of bitlib for filtering is broken |
| 04:45.17 | Seerah | it says on the PTR forums that the combat log isn't finished and they're not ready for feedback yet |
| 04:45.52 | Antiarc | Bitlib is broken? |
| 04:45.58 | Arrowmaster | no they way they use it is |
| 04:46.01 | Antiarc | Ah |
| 04:46.02 | Arrowmaster | as in incorrect i think |
| 04:46.20 | Antiarc | I was going to say, how hard is it to screw that up? I mean, that's pretty basic math there :P |
| 04:46.28 | Arrowmaster | the stuff i saw about filtering looked completely incorrect |
| 04:46.38 | Antiarc | I've got Threat-2.0 starting to work |
| 04:46.42 | Antiarc | It tracks via GUID |
| 04:46.44 | Arrowmaster | 2.0? |
| 04:46.47 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 04:46.48 | Arrowmaster | i thought you were doing 1.1 |
| 04:47.00 | Antiarc | I was going to but then decided that the changes were extensive enough to warrant a major bump |
| 04:47.07 | Dezzimal | http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii157/WoWScrnShot_photos/WoWScrnShot_021108_205515.jpg sup blizz QA |
| 04:47.20 | Antiarc | I'm converting to Ace3 while I convert to the new combat log while I factor out Babble dependencies |
| 04:47.24 | Antiarc | It's a pretty major overhaul :) |
| 04:47.39 | Xinhuan | need help? |
| 04:47.58 | Antiarc | If you want, definitely. Right now I'm mostly doing code cleanup and factoring |
| 04:48.09 | Antiarc | But I should be able to get it to a committable state tonight. I have a branch I'm working on |
| 04:48.09 | Xinhuan | just ask if you do |
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| 04:48.58 | Antiarc | LibGUIDRegistry is already being useful |
| 04:49.14 | Xinhuan | what does that do specifically again? |
| 04:49.29 | Antiarc | Basically provides UnitName(guid), etc |
| 04:49.32 | Antiarc | Similar stuff. |
| 04:49.36 | Antiarc | class, sex, level |
| 04:49.39 | Antiarc | Anything known |
| 04:49.47 | Xinhuan | and what does libgroup do? |
| 04:49.50 | Cryect | Good will have to check that out for Recount 2 |
| 04:49.52 | Antiarc | It's depricated :P |
| 04:49.55 | Antiarc | I deleted it |
| 04:49.59 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 04:50.03 | Antiarc | It was going to do name -> unit ID correlation |
| 04:50.06 | Arrowmaster | you added it to the libGUIDRegistry toc though |
| 04:50.10 | Antiarc | Doh |
| 04:50.16 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 04:50.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 04:50.49 | Antiarc | Yeah, we cna remove that |
| 04:51.10 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r61021 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/libs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): RaidMarshal: Adding libs fubarplugin, roster, and tablet |
| 04:51.21 | Cryect | I have to question how can they have the filtering messed up for the new combatlog unless they do absolutely zero testing |
| 04:51.34 | Arrowmaster | back to RoS trash/boss |
| 04:51.39 | Cryect | I mean thats the sort of thing unit testing should catch but then again barely any game companies use unit testing so yeah |
| 04:52.38 | Xinhuan | Cryect, you going to work with elsia? |
| 04:52.51 | Xinhuan | he already has a fully working copy of recount for 2.4 |
| 04:52.53 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 04:53.09 | Cryect | yeah he does or mostly that is |
| 04:53.24 | Cryect | I might/I might not |
| 04:53.34 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r61022 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/embeds.xml: RaidMarshal: Moved lib includes from toc to embeds.xml |
| 04:53.36 | Cryect | Right now its hashing out the new framework |
| 04:53.52 | Xinhuan | its not exactly right to ignore his efforts, since you sort of "quit" |
| 04:53.57 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r61023 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/RaidMarshalFu.lua: RaidMarshal: Renamed RMOptions to RaidMarshalFu |
| 04:54.01 | Cryect | Right well this is a new framework |
| 04:54.38 | Xinhuan | yeah, but you should still discuss with him, otherwise it would seem like a slap in the face |
| 04:54.54 | Cryect | yes, its kinda hard though since he goes to bed when I'm come home from work :-p |
| 04:55.07 | Xinhuan | use forum messages if its that difficult :) |
| 04:55.14 | Cryect | I hate forums |
| 04:55.19 | Cryect | well communicating on them that is :-p |
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| 04:55.45 | Cryect | Really I hate any sort of communication that isn't instant feedback I should say |
| 04:56.38 | Cryect | Anyways before I can talk with him requires I finish working out the stuff on paper and then type it up |
| 04:56.52 | Xinhuan | so you're back to playing wow fully? heh |
| 04:56.55 | Cryect | no |
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| 04:57.07 | Cryect | I'm back to coding what i wanted to code 5 months ago :-p |
| 04:57.21 | Cryect | But wanted to wait on 2.4 for |
| 04:57.33 | Xinhuan | yeah but if you need to maintain it :) |
| 04:57.46 | Cryect | Haha |
| 04:57.50 | Xinhuan | -if |
| 04:58.12 | Cryect | I'm more interested in motivating others to take my ideas and improve upon them |
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| 04:58.54 | Cryect | not enough innovation in the damage meter area was why I made Recount in the first place |
| 04:58.56 | Xinhuan | you've seen my taboo regions in routes? hehe |
| 04:59.03 | Xinhuan | that's innovation |
| 04:59.06 | Cryect | Taboo? |
| 04:59.16 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Only my wife gets to see my taboo regions |
| 04:59.16 | Cryect | You mark areas as Taboo? |
| 04:59.22 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 04:59.47 | CIA-10 | 03kypp 07Kypp * r61024 10RaidMarshal/RaidMarshal/ (6 files in 2 dirs): RaidMarshal: misc changes from work this weekend |
| 04:59.49 | Xinhuan | i'll link u a SS |
| 04:59.54 | Xinhuan | http://grum.nl/WoWScrnShot_020908_125251.jpg |
| 04:59.58 | Xinhuan | The above screenshot is an extreme example of how you can use Taboo Regions to generate routes tailored to your needs. |
| 05:00.15 | Cryect | I'm sad you don't use a simulated annealing cluster algorithm :-p but I guess with a greedy algorithm you can always ensure you reach the same solution though |
| 05:00.33 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4d.jpg |
| 05:00.36 | Cryect | ah nice |
| 05:00.37 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4b.jpg |
| 05:00.43 | Xinhuan | you can do complicated regions hehe |
| 05:00.48 | Cryect | I prefer mainly the math required behind the drawing of that |
| 05:00.48 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp4c.jpg |
| 05:00.55 | Xinhuan | even ones that cross itself |
| 05:01.00 | Cryect | or is that just a texture? |
| 05:01.07 | Xinhuan | it is a lot of lines |
| 05:01.07 | Cryect | or is it lines like it looks? |
| 05:01.09 | Xinhuan | not a texture |
| 05:01.10 | Cryect | hehe k |
| 05:01.22 | Cryect | could have done it with a repeating texture though |
| 05:01.35 | Xinhuan | not really, because all textures in wow are rectangular |
| 05:01.35 | Cryect | but neat this way |
| 05:01.49 | Xinhuan | you would need to moreph a texture to a rectangle to fit a given triangle |
| 05:01.54 | Xinhuan | after you triangulate a polygon |
| 05:02.06 | Cryect | yeah |
| 05:02.08 | Xinhuan | and this isn't feasible because the border of the texture must be transparent by 1 pixel |
| 05:02.17 | Xinhuan | so you don't get a seamless texture with several triangles |
| 05:02.24 | Cryect | Hence you have a border texture etc |
| 05:02.32 | Xinhuan | which complicates things way too much |
| 05:02.34 | Cryect | but yeah it is somewhat of a pain |
| 05:02.39 | Xinhuan | so i went with pure lines |
| 05:02.50 | Xinhuan | and simple intersection math + inside/outside polygon math |
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| 05:07.50 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan * r61025 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - Fix issue where it sometimes opens mail with just gold in it even though its not selected. |
| 05:08.10 | Cryect | Anyways yeah I like the stuff you work on Xinhuan since you try to come up with new stuff |
| 05:08.52 | Xinhuan | Dock is new stuff ;p |
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| 05:09.01 | Cryect | Not really fond of the Dock idea |
| 05:09.08 | Cryect | okay its need that it works |
| 05:09.19 | Xinhuan | he's got some tabbing dock stuff |
| 05:09.23 | Xinhuan | which is pretty neat |
| 05:09.26 | Cryect | But I hate Dock on MacOS and there its kinda has a use |
| 05:09.52 | Xinhuan | my personal opinion is that it isn't all too useful since a visible frame still takes up space on the screen |
| 05:09.53 | CIA-10 | 03next96 * r61026 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 05:09.53 | CIA-10 | Skillet: |
| 05:09.53 | CIA-10 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:09.59 | Cryect | yeah |
| 05:10.08 | Xinhuan | so i would prefer to hide the frame (via say tooggle) instead of making it smaller via dock |
| 05:10.15 | Xinhuan | but not everyone is that minimalist |
| 05:10.16 | Cryect | It looks cool though :-p |
| 05:10.40 | Cryect | yep thats my idea either some sort of minimized version encoded in the addon or toggling it when I need it |
| 05:11.40 | Xinhuan | he takes it a step further since you can dock docks or something now? |
| 05:11.48 | Xinhuan | which effectively hides a dock |
| 05:11.53 | Cryect | haha |
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| 05:20.25 | Kivin | !ap 1600 |
| 05:20.25 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Arena points from a rating of 1600 is, 2v2: 353, 3v3: 409, 5v5: 465 |
| 05:21.48 | Recluse | (first time arenas) you start at 1500... but is higher or lower than that better? |
| 05:22.07 | Antiarc | Higher is better |
| 05:22.14 | Antiarc | Also |
| 05:22.21 | Antiarc | Someone tell me how we stop sucking at Illidari Council |
| 05:22.24 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:22.45 | Thorgard | Antiarc, I would.. but I don't think you have enough Vaseline. :/ |
| 05:22.46 | Cryect | Uh how are you sucking at exactly? hard to say how to stop without that part |
| 05:23.01 | Antiarc | For the most part it's just people dying randomly |
| 05:23.04 | Antiarc | I dunno. |
| 05:23.16 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure I've figured it out |
| 05:23.22 | Antiarc | We kill their mans before they kill ours |
| 05:23.30 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 05:23.30 | Cryect | well thats just runing out of the AOE's and stuff of course |
| 05:23.45 | Antiarc | I think it just comes down to "We suck at movement" |
| 05:23.47 | Cryect | healers do need to remember cross heal people in range etc :-p |
| 05:23.49 | Cryect | haha yeah |
| 05:23.52 | Thorgard | Not dying is important.. because if you die you've lost an important part of your life. |
| 05:24.00 | Diao | lol |
| 05:31.28 | CIA-10 | 03azonia * r61027 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 05:31.28 | CIA-10 | oRA2: |
| 05:31.28 | CIA-10 | - Added menu option to reset main tank window to screen center |
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| 05:34.47 | Diao | wtf? |
| 05:34.50 | Diao | romantic picnic basket? |
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| 05:39.32 | CIA-10 | 03wang * r61028 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: zhCN update |
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| 05:46.27 | ckknight | does anyone know of a _real_ way to convert blp <-> tga? |
| 05:46.32 | ckknight | or blp <-> anything? |
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| 05:49.50 | Antiarc | There's a blp<->png converter I've used |
| 05:49.54 | Antiarc | It's a java program |
| 05:49.56 | Antiarc | Works just fine |
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| 05:50.05 | Ellipsis | link? |
| 05:50.19 | ckknight_ | oh please gimmeh |
| 05:50.21 | Antiarc | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
| 05:50.43 | Antiarc | Or http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3290/ |
| 05:54.18 | Kreiger__ | Got a question about wowace mods. i was trying to set my gf up with addons from wowace and i told her to get the WAU and i told her which addons to get. (onebag, onebank, omen, autobar, etc) and they downloaded properly, but aren't running and don't respond to / commands (/atlasloot for instance) |
| 05:54.22 | Kreiger__ | any of you guys know why? |
| 05:54.49 | Kreiger | i'm not sure if this is a WAU problem or a wowace dependency thing. |
| 05:55.18 | Thrae | Kreiger: Wowace is not a formal distribution network. A lot of the addons available are still in a beta stage, and may break occasionally as the authors work on them. |
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| 05:55.52 | Thrae | Especially ckknight__ |
| 05:55.53 | Kivin | Thrae: sounds like it's more than one broken addon |
| 05:55.53 | Kreiger | So in order to always get working copies of the addons i should snag from cursegaming or something first? |
| 05:56.06 | Thrae | Kivin: And that's common |
| 05:56.06 | ckknight__ | be still my heart |
| 05:56.09 | Recluse | >.> arena doors opened, scoreboard pops up, no opponents 'leave arena' and i get a loss? o.O |
| 05:56.09 | Zicon | kreiger: First of all -- are the addons enabled? :P |
| 05:56.16 | Kreiger | Yeah. onebag works for me, but atlas, omen, etc. don't work |
| 05:56.30 | Kreiger | zicon, yeah. they are. i had her check her addon and they aren't out of date and are checked |
| 05:56.43 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r61029 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 05:56.43 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:56.43 | CIA-10 | - Tradeskill: koKR Update |
| 05:56.49 | Ellipsis | Kreiger: is she getting errors? |
| 05:56.52 | Kivin | Suppose the next step would be to enable Lua errors |
| 05:57.00 | Kreiger | AS a test, moved my wtf and interface folders out of my wow directory and deleted my cache to see what she sees |
| 05:57.14 | Kivin | Addons aren't stored in WTF, just the saved vars |
| 05:57.17 | Kreiger | and i installed the addons. no errors and i downloaded and installed bugsack and buggrabber and it didn't show me anything |
| 05:57.32 | Kreiger | well, i moved them so i could have the saved vars for later on tonight on MY characters. |
| 05:57.44 | Kreiger | so i didn't have to redo my ui completely;. |
| 05:58.10 | Kreiger | I basically brought myself to square 1 fresh install addon and interface wise and did what i told her to do, and they weren't responding to anything. |
| 05:58.33 | Kreiger | I got atlasloot to work after downloading it from cursegaming and then updating it with WAU |
| 06:03.15 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r61030 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: koKR Update |
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| 06:13.05 | CIA-10 | 03orionshock * r61031 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (3 files): |
| 06:13.05 | CIA-10 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 06:13.05 | CIA-10 | -Add German Translations done by Sinxia, thank you |
| 06:19.47 | Tifi | wtf why am i zoning when i activate Perception without moving? |
| 06:20.09 | CIA-10 | 03wang * r61032 10PitBull/ (30 files in 29 dirs): |
| 06:20.09 | CIA-10 | PitBull |
| 06:20.09 | CIA-10 | - zhCN add,thx pbs2@cwdg |
| 06:20.55 | Xinhuan | lol, the name "wang" just makes me giggle |
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| 06:22.08 | Orionshock | sylvanaar: what's with this "Prat_WIM" ?> |
| 06:22.28 | Xinhuan | a collaboration to get those 2 chatmods to work with each other |
| 06:22.53 | Orionshock | they don't now? / before |
| 06:23.05 | Orionshock | been running both for bout 5?months and just fine |
| 06:25.19 | Xinhuan | they are trying out some sort of integration thing |
| 06:25.21 | Xinhuan | no idea what |
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| 06:44.17 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r61033 10IceHUD/modules/PlayerHealth.lua: |
| 06:44.17 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 06:44.17 | CIA-10 | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ICE-1 - added an invisible button below the player health bar to allow click targeting/casting and right-click menu functionality for the player (configurable) |
| 06:45.21 | Antiarc | Crud. The new combatlog doesn't include overheal? :( |
| 06:45.49 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't anyway |
| 06:46.17 | kebinusan | why shoundt it? doesnt the current one? |
| 06:46.21 | Xinhuan | did htey do same for damage? |
| 06:46.30 | Xinhuan | like if i killed a 10 hp critter with a 5k pyroblast |
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| 06:46.38 | Xinhuan | will it say 5k or 10 damage done? |
| 06:46.47 | Antiarc | 5k, still |
| 06:47.13 | Xinhuan | well ptr copy is still disabled zzz |
| 06:50.06 | Nargiddley | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9545/blizconfigtestzi8.png, that was easier than I expected |
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| 06:50.41 | Nargiddley | and as I expected its not quite wide enough for 2 controls :/ |
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| 06:53.08 | Tifi | the categories come from blizz? |
| 06:53.54 | Nargiddley | thats the 2.4 Interface Options panel |
| 06:54.24 | Nargiddley | with an Ace3 config added to it |
| 06:54.36 | Tifi | oh |
| 06:55.05 | Tifi | i thought it was an ace3 panel ^^ |
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| 06:56.18 | Xinhuan | will aceregistry auto register our tables into that blizz config then? |
| 06:56.28 | Nargiddley | no |
| 06:56.38 | Xinhuan | or do each addon author need to do that manually? |
| 06:56.45 | Nargiddley | its a seperate call to AceConfigDialog to do that |
| 06:56.49 | Xinhuan | or can aceregistry provide a small function we can call to do this? |
| 06:57.18 | Nargiddley | LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):AddToBlizOptions(name, "Config Test") |
| 06:57.30 | Nargiddley | is what I added to the test addon |
| 06:57.55 | Xinhuan | i wonder how messy it will look |
| 06:57.59 | Nargiddley | very |
| 06:58.00 | Xinhuan | if my addon's config has trees on the left |
| 06:58.04 | Xinhuan | and then panels on the right |
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| 06:58.16 | Nargiddley | trees look completely crap, they take up more than 1/2 the available space |
| 06:58.43 | Xinhuan | hmm a bit part of my config relies on dynamically created trees |
| 06:58.45 | Tifi | i assume you cant resize the blizz panel? |
| 06:58.47 | Xinhuan | big* |
| 06:58.57 | Nargiddley | which is why its a seperate call to put a table there, it needs to be tailored to the small available space |
| 06:59.31 | Nargiddley | I dont think adding the whole config to that is the best for every addon |
| 06:59.42 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: how to i reset my routes gui config, i seem to have draged it half of the screen and can only resize it |
| 06:59.58 | Aeyan | Oh jeebus no |
| 07:00.11 | Aeyan | That would be horrible for anything more complex than a few checkbox options, hehe |
| 07:00.14 | Xinhuan | reloading UI will reset it Arrowmaster |
| 07:00.25 | Nargiddley | make it bigger till you can see the title bar ? |
| 07:00.28 | Xinhuan | the gui config is controlled entirely by Acegui |
| 07:00.32 | Xinhuan | not my routes |
| 07:00.50 | Tifi | well you could replace a tree by a dropdown to save screen real estate |
| 07:01.07 | Xinhuan | except i may have as many as 50 items in the tree |
| 07:01.09 | Xinhuan | one per zone |
| 07:01.23 | Tifi | so? |
| 07:01.27 | Xinhuan | i create a zone tree for every zone |
| 07:01.34 | Xinhuan | dropdowns don't work since its not scrollable |
| 07:01.36 | Nargiddley | I want to have a launcher there for opening full configs |
| 07:01.46 | Xinhuan | at least, the current implementation doesn't have it scrollable |
| 07:02.03 | Xinhuan | so a 50 menu items dropdown, will just go offscreen |
| 07:02.09 | Xinhuan | and you can't choose the ones that go offscreen |
| 07:02.10 | Tifi | yea ok but dropdowns really should be scrollable anyways :p |
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| 07:02.23 | Xinhuan | not my fault it isn't implemented! |
| 07:06.40 | Xinhuan | hmm launchers |
| 07:06.46 | Xinhuan | that idea isn't half bad Nargiddley |
| 07:07.42 | Nargiddley | just an icon + name for each registerd config that opens the normal window |
| 07:08.06 | Orionshock | wbt game bots that don't pop up a whisper in wim :\ |
| 07:08.08 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r61034 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 07:08.08 | CIA-10 | PitBull |
| 07:08.08 | CIA-10 | - fix typo zhCN |
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| 07:14.14 | Xinhuan | hmm Nargiddley, the Ok and cancel buttons are pretty dud then, since the aceopt table functions are called immediately |
| 07:14.33 | Xinhuan | not much to do about it i guess |
| 07:14.43 | Nargiddley | theres a few ideas floating around |
| 07:14.55 | Nargiddley | I diddnt' like some of them |
| 07:15.14 | Aens|Superiority | Does anyone know if mark of the illidari flasks work in sunwell? |
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| 07:22.02 | Antiarc | Arrrrgh |
| 07:22.10 | Antiarc | I need high-level characters on the PTR |
| 07:22.14 | Antiarc | But the stupid copy is disabled |
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| 07:25.43 | ScoTTie | hmm |
| 07:25.57 | ScoTTie | i copied mine yesterday, abouts 24 hours ago now while that message was still up |
| 07:26.30 | ScoTTie | and it went through |
| 07:27.27 | ScoTTie | this is on the US realms |
| 07:28.15 | Tifi | um how does the elapsed parameter in onupdate handlers work after a ui reload? in the first 3 frames it says 0.02, then 7.82, then 0.02, which has pretty much nothing to do with what GetTime says =( |
| 07:28.26 | ScoTTie | <Aens|Superiority> Does anyone know if mark of the illidari flasks work in sunwell? <-- tool tip hasnt changed |
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| 07:31.42 | Antiarc | I need to test pets, vampiric embrace, and righteous defense, at a minimum |
| 07:31.50 | Antiarc | Buuuut my test priest is stupid level 7 |
| 07:32.41 | Lukian | Antiarc, what do you need to test in regard to RD? |
| 07:32.43 | Tifi | jeez dl a leveling guide |
| 07:33.00 | Antiarc | Lukian: How it works in regards to the GUIDs |
| 07:33.13 | Lukian | ah ^_^ |
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| 07:33.34 | Antiarc | I have multitarget threat working though |
| 07:33.38 | Antiarc | And damage/heals done |
| 07:34.03 | kergoth | nice |
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| 07:35.59 | Diao | :O |
| 07:36.09 | Civrock | Up on SVN yet? :P |
| 07:36.16 | Antiarc | Heh, no, not yet |
| 07:36.27 | Diao | Antiarc even for mobs that you didn't target but aoed and have the same name? |
| 07:36.39 | Antiarc | Diao: Yup |
| 07:36.43 | Diao | nice |
| 07:36.47 | Diao | can't wait :D |
| 07:36.51 | Civrock | Somebody needs to fix the Quartz swing timer. |
| 07:36.55 | Civrock | On PTR. |
| 07:37.58 | rubik | hmm.. i only have melee toons but sort of curious how it'd work for an aoe class on multi mobs.. would/should omen switch up and show target that they got the most threat on automatically? or does it even matter? |
| 07:38.21 | rubik | (if you are an aoe dmg dealing class) |
| 07:38.40 | Antiarc | Well, I can't point to a mob and say "You have too much threat on that mob", but if you target it I can tell you how much you have on it |
| 07:38.57 | Xinhuan | however, you can monitor threat tresholds on every GUID |
| 07:39.00 | rubik | gotcha.. yeah, that makes sense |
| 07:39.03 | Xinhuan | and if you pass the treshold on any of the GUIDs |
| 07:39.08 | Xinhuan | shake a warning out |
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| 07:39.21 | Antiarc | That should be doable, actually. |
| 07:40.05 | rubik | wondering if it'd be actually useful to them.. heh |
| 07:40.28 | Tifi | how do you get the guid for the target? |
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| 07:40.50 | Orionshock | it has a flag |
| 07:41.08 | Antiarc | I'm using LibGUIDRegistry, which provides some lookup abilities |
| 07:41.11 | Antiarc | It works nicely enough so far |
| 07:41.16 | Tifi | no i mean when you switch the target |
| 07:41.18 | Kivin | down the road when this 2.4 stuff is all ironed out, that'll be pretty amazing if you can tell two mobs with the same name apart |
| 07:41.27 | Antiarc | You can :) |
| 07:41.32 | Tifi | is there an api function UnitGUID('target') |
| 07:41.36 | Antiarc | No |
| 07:41.41 | rubik | not yet anyway |
| 07:41.48 | Xinhuan | tifi you can only get the guid of the targetted mob if at least one combat log event happens to the target after you target it |
| 07:41.56 | Tifi | k^^ |
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| 07:45.23 | Elkano | anyone tried to use GetItemIcon() to datamine, yet? |
| 07:46.17 | Xinhuan | i thought that only works on itemnames |
| 07:46.23 | Xinhuan | so trying to use itemids on it will fail? |
| 07:46.53 | Antiarc | It works on IDs |
| 07:47.24 | Xinhuan | so they are encouraging item farming? |
| 07:47.53 | Antiarc | Word on the street is that it's pretty unrestricted, but if you abuse it your account will be flagged and you'll have a 72 hour vacation |
| 07:48.23 | Xinhuan | how will blizz even know |
| 07:48.29 | Xinhuan | Getitemicon() is a client side function |
| 07:48.40 | Antiarc | Ah |
| 07:48.43 | |Pixel| | which will probably query the server |
| 07:49.04 | Xinhuan | i assumed all the icon data is available client side |
| 07:49.14 | Xinhuan | which means there is no need to query the server, but i dunno |
| 07:49.18 | |Pixel| | nope |
| 07:49.24 | Xinhuan | since GetitemIcon simply returns one of the values of GetitemInfo() |
| 07:49.28 | |Pixel| | it's in the local client cache |
| 07:49.33 | Xinhuan | the 10th return value or something |
| 07:49.48 | Antiarc | I just queried /dump GetItemIcon(34015) |
| 07:49.50 | Antiarc | And it gave me a value |
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| 07:49.54 | Antiarc | And I can't possibly have seen that item |
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| 07:50.19 | Xinhuan | why not? |
| 07:50.26 | Xinhuan | anyone could have walked near you with it |
| 07:50.32 | Xinhuan | and it would be in your item cache |
| 07:50.34 | |Pixel| | so the client asked the server ? :) |
| 07:50.38 | Antiarc | Because I'm hanging out in the newbie area and there's nobody here |
| 07:50.40 | Xinhuan | they only have to wear it |
| 07:50.44 | Antiarc | I've seen 2 people all day, all < level 5 |
| 07:51.11 | Xinhuan | try a more obscure item |
| 07:51.38 | Xinhuan | like |
| 07:51.44 | Xinhuan | 21176 |
| 07:51.58 | Antiarc | 22520 worked |
| 07:51.59 | Lukian | 23364 :D |
| 07:52.08 | Antiarc | 22520 worked |
| 07:52.16 | Xinhuan | what item is 22520 |
| 07:52.19 | Antiarc | 23364 worked |
| 07:52.24 | Antiarc | Kel'thazud's Phylactery |
| 07:52.28 | Antiarc | The quest item he drops |
| 07:52.39 | Lukian | that's a quest item though |
| 07:52.50 | Antiarc | Right. And I doubt anyone has cleared Naxx on the PTR. |
| 07:52.58 | Lukian | true |
| 07:53.03 | Xinhuan | and 21176? |
| 07:53.04 | Antiarc | And even if they had, they'd have to link it |
| 07:53.13 | Antiarc | 21176 worked |
| 07:53.18 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 07:53.28 | Xinhuan | can you do a GetItemInfo() |
| 07:53.29 | Xinhuan | on those items |
| 07:53.33 | Lukian | <I FARM OR FAMIRY DIE> |
| 07:53.33 | Xinhuan | and see if they are in your cache? |
| 07:53.35 | Lukian | lol |
| 07:53.37 | Antiarc | Nil |
| 07:53.55 | Xinhuan | do sethyperlink |
| 07:54.00 | Xinhuan | and see if they exist on the server too |
| 07:54.03 | Antiarc | ? |
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| 07:54.20 | Xinhuan | to try to get the item into your cache |
| 07:54.35 | Xinhuan | i want to see if being able to GetItemIcon means whether the server loads the item into its memory |
| 07:54.43 | Antiarc | nope |
| 07:54.46 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
| 07:54.50 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 07:55.01 | Tifi | lol while im resizing the chat frame, the combat log moves automatically +1 pixel per frame |
| 07:55.53 | Xinhuan | so getitemicon can only check if an itemid is reserved |
| 07:56.02 | Antiarc | Actually, wait, no |
| 07:56.08 | Antiarc | What's the right syntax to set the tooltip item? |
| 07:56.17 | Antiarc | I think I didn't do it right >_> |
| 07:56.24 | Xinhuan | make sure your gametooltip is open |
| 07:56.37 | Xinhuan | and do GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:12345") |
| 07:56.47 | Xinhuan | by open, i mean visible |
| 07:56.56 | Antiarc | It loaded the item |
| 07:57.15 | Antiarc | Same with 22520 |
| 07:57.23 | Xinhuan | so the server loaded KT's phylatory and you can getiteminfo it now? |
| 07:57.30 | Xinhuan | data mine ? hehe |
| 07:57.47 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 07:58.03 | Xinhuan | hmmmm |
| 07:58.05 | Antiarc | What's the upper known bound on item IDs? |
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| 07:58.13 | Xinhuan | around 35000 |
| 07:58.16 | Xinhuan | not sure on the new upperbound |
| 07:58.19 | Xinhuan | with sunwell |
| 07:58.35 | Elkano | well, I check up to 40k in LibInventory |
| 07:59.11 | Xinhuan | 34689 is the highest ID i have in my database |
| 07:59.15 | Xinhuan | on live realms |
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| 08:00.10 | Elkano | check id 192 |
| 08:00.13 | Elkano | does it work? |
| 08:00.34 | Xinhuan | 192 doesn't exist on live realms |
| 08:00.48 | Antiarc | Interesting. I got too many "misses" and it DC'd me |
| 08:01.01 | Xinhuan | yah, you are limited to about 1 miss per 10 secs max |
| 08:01.06 | Xinhuan | at least, on live realms |
| 08:01.16 | Xinhuan | its more like 5 misses per 50 secs |
| 08:01.18 | Antiarc | A single miss after relogging DCd me |
| 08:01.20 | Kivin | pretty sure you can miss a lot more than that |
| 08:01.30 | Xinhuan | yes Antiarc, because getting kicked off doesn't reset the misses |
| 08:01.38 | Antiarc | Makes sense :P |
| 08:01.43 | Kivin | I have to rapidly right click stuff that isn't available on my realm in atlasloot to d/c my myself |
| 08:01.45 | Antiarc | Anywho, back to threat. |
| 08:01.47 | Kody- | it goes beyond 35000 with 2.4 |
| 08:01.59 | Elkano | 192 is Martin Thunder... funny thing is it actually worked once some time ago... but I wonder if GetItemIcon works on it |
| 08:02.12 | Antiarc | Yup! |
| 08:02.18 | Antiarc | INV_Mace_01 |
| 08:02.46 | Elkano | hmm... are there any IDs known to be not used? |
| 08:02.46 | Xinhuan | now do sethyperlink |
| 08:02.58 | Xinhuan | since its "loaded" by the server via getitemicon |
| 08:03.09 | Xinhuan | 192 that is |
| 08:03.19 | Antiarc | Heh, DCd me again |
| 08:04.26 | Lukian | I want item 23364 for my druid |
| 08:05.22 | kergoth | there a blizzard global for the gold/silver/copper colors? |
| 08:08.16 | MentalPower | there is |
| 08:08.19 | [Horde]Tricksy | anyone know if those "Romantic Picnic basket" things stay with you after Valentine? |
| 08:08.28 | MentalPower | its in the chatframe.lua iirc |
| 08:09.02 | smoke_ | is recount working with ptr now? |
| 08:09.45 | Lukian | [Horde]Tricksy, yes it does |
| 08:09.52 | [Horde]Tricksy | wow :p thanks |
| 08:10.11 | [Horde]Tricksy | that'sa kick in the nads for that guy on our server that got the rest and relaxation loot card thing :p |
| 08:10.40 | Lukian | that's different :p |
| 08:10.48 | [Horde]Tricksy | it's practically the same though :) |
| 08:11.00 | [Horde]Tricksy | and the cookies of it are useless, here you get a heart :p |
| 08:11.01 | Elkano | "Romantic Picnic basket"? tell me moar |
| 08:11.02 | Tifi | do you get feedback for your bug reports on the ptr? |
| 08:11.21 | [Horde]Tricksy | It's a valentine's day drop Elkano :) |
| 08:11.22 | Elkano | btw: anyone knows how to connect to US PTR from EU? |
| 08:11.27 | Lukian | I have two picnic baskets ^_^ |
| 08:11.35 | [Horde]Tricksy | I have 4 so far :p |
| 08:11.41 | [Horde]Tricksy | gave another to a friend lol |
| 08:11.41 | Tifi | Elkano, i don't think you can |
| 08:11.47 | [Horde]Tricksy | 6 alts to go :p |
| 08:11.49 | Tifi | unless you have a US account |
| 08:12.25 | [Horde]Tricksy | least I got my peddlefeet \o/ |
| 08:12.47 | Arrowmaster | wish i had inventory space to do that stuff |
| 08:13.17 | [Horde]Tricksy | do like me, make your own guild, <3 the bank space :p |
| 08:13.25 | Lukian | Arrowmaster, clean out your crap that you'll be upgrading in the expansion :p |
| 08:13.30 | Elkano | Tifi: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493399642&postId=44930053248&sid=1#0 |
| 08:13.35 | Arrowmaster | fuck no |
| 08:13.38 | Lukian | [Horde]Tricksy, do you tank? :p |
| 08:13.43 | Arrowmaster | i was wearing my felheart set earlyer today |
| 08:13.48 | [Horde]Tricksy | lol err no :p |
| 08:13.57 | Lukian | guild bank doesn't help at all |
| 08:14.04 | Lukian | it's all bop items for tanks :p |
| 08:14.07 | [Horde]Tricksy | personal items? :) |
| 08:14.10 | [Horde]Tricksy | ah right ^^ |
| 08:14.51 | Arrowmaster | i have my own guild on one of my alts |
| 08:15.04 | Arrowmaster | but i keep forgetting to get my other storage alts invited to it |
| 08:15.06 | Lukian | I have 5 tabs across 2 gbanks :o |
| 08:15.12 | Lukian | haha |
| 08:15.15 | Arrowmaster | its the best guild name ever too |
| 08:15.17 | Arrowmaster | <Banker> |
| 08:15.23 | Lukian | <The cake is a lie> ? |
| 08:15.33 | [Horde]Tricksy | ow anyone know, is Itemrack still useable? It gives the impression of being abandoned :S I kind of miss the bank switch feature, I don't think Closetgnome has it |
| 08:15.58 | Lukian | [Horde]Tricksy, you could use outfitter |
| 08:16.07 | Arrowmaster | dont know if itemrack 2.1d has the bank feature |
| 08:16.22 | [Horde]Tricksy | I'll try that, thanks :) |
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| 08:18.59 | FtH|Daemona | great to watch vis maior clear sunwell plateau ... and EU can't even get 70's on the server |
| 08:19.40 | [Horde]Tricksy | we don't need to ! :p |
| 08:20.10 | kd3 | ahahaha... for those of you not in wowi-lounge/wowwiki, http://www.wowwiki.com/Brutallus#Gallery |
| 08:20.16 | kd3 | happening right now on US PvE |
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| 08:22.12 | [Horde]Tricksy | " |
| 08:22.12 | [Horde]Tricksy | Obviously, a well-organized group of criminals, most of them I suspect are chineses, is running a big business hacking accounts and then selling your items, involving your character in illegal trading operations and so on. Sooner or later it causes your account to be suspended. |
| 08:22.17 | [Horde]Tricksy | ow sorry |
| 08:22.21 | [Horde]Tricksy | wrong chan :p |
| 08:22.34 | [Horde]Tricksy | love tinfoil hat theories from the support forums :p |
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| 08:23.18 | FtH|Daemona | just noticed |
| 08:23.22 | FtH|Daemona | eu copy is on again ;) |
| 08:23.26 | FtH|Daemona | and reset to 4 copies |
| 08:23.31 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 08:23.46 | nevcairiel | and slow already |
| 08:23.57 | Thorgard | kd3, wha'? |
| 08:24.18 | kd3 | lock enslaved him. there's a copy on the world map at the north end of the dead scar on the island |
| 08:24.24 | kd3 | hilarity is ensuing |
| 08:25.05 | kd3 | happening this very moment on PvE US. still stuck in combat |
| 08:25.31 | CIA-8 | 03kurax * r61037 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.cn.lua: |
| 08:25.31 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 08:25.31 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update, and made the categories ordered to help svn track modifications. |
| 08:27.04 | Antiarc | US copy is still off |
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| 08:27.16 | Xinhuan | has anyone attempted |
| 08:27.17 | Xinhuan | to |
| 08:27.25 | Xinhuan | translate all the spells in babblespell to their spell IDs? |
| 08:27.36 | Xinhuan | by say datamining wowhead |
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| 08:30.00 | Ellipsis | that'd be kinda handy |
| 08:30.19 | Xinhuan | actually that wouldn't quite work |
| 08:30.23 | Xinhuan | spells like Frostbolt has many ranks |
| 08:30.29 | Xinhuan | there'll be a spell id per rank |
| 08:30.41 | Xinhuan | but babblespell doesn't care about ranks |
| 08:31.40 | CIA-8 | 03kurax * r61038 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.cn.lua: |
| 08:31.40 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:31.40 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update, and made the categories ordered to help svn track modifications. |
| 08:34.45 | Xinhuan | question |
| 08:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight_: Suggestion for pitbull.. user-defined buffs/debuffs to always show/hide when de/buff filtering is turned on |
| 08:35.00 | Ellipsis | jira it |
| 08:35.21 | Xinhuan | Kael'thas Sunstrider is the name of the boss in TK right? |
| 08:35.27 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 08:35.28 | Xinhuan | does he have the exact same name in Sunwell? |
| 08:35.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont remember if i have a jira ccount |
| 08:36.10 | nevcairiel | i think he does Xinhuan |
| 08:36.37 | CIA-8 | 03kurax * r61039 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.cn.lua: |
| 08:36.37 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 08:36.37 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update, and made the categories ordered to help svn track modifications. |
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| 08:36.42 | Xinhuan | so babbleboss converted to mobIDs will be problematic if it isn't indexed by the ID |
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| 08:39.57 | CIA-8 | 03kurax * r61040 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files): |
| 08:39.57 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:39.57 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update, and made the categories ordered to help svn track modifications. |
| 08:42.06 | Xinhuan | hehe xperl uses 800k ram |
| 08:42.19 | Xinhuan | pitbull disembedded uses 2.32 mb, and 4.04 mb embedded |
| 08:42.25 | CIA-8 | 03kurax * r61041 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.cn.lua WorldRaidBosses.cn.lua): |
| 08:42.25 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 08:42.25 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update, and made the categories ordered to help svn track modifications. |
| 08:42.28 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, no one should ever need more than 640k |
| 08:42.30 | nevcairiel | aguf uses like 400kb |
| 08:42.46 | Xinhuan | 800k is with every xperl module loaded |
| 08:42.49 | Xinhuan | including the raid frames |
| 08:42.56 | Xinhuan | and raid admin module |
| 08:43.01 | nevcairiel | get real raidframes imho .P |
| 08:43.09 | Xinhuan | i was like |
| 08:43.20 | Xinhuan | "/g hey how much ram is your unit frames using" |
| 08:43.29 | Xinhuan | and got back those numbers |
| 08:43.41 | nevcairiel | pitbull always used that much |
| 08:44.03 | Xinhuan | how much does grid core use? |
| 08:44.04 | Megalon | nevcairiel: and even more if you actually activated it? ;P |
| 08:44.28 | Kivin | my pitbull takes 1.02mib before opening the config |
| 08:44.38 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r61042 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBarPrototype.lua ButtonStyle.lua): Bartender4: implement option to change the button style |
| 08:44.43 | Kivin | 1.32 as soon as i type /pitbull |
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| 08:47.50 | NightHawkTheSane | how configurable is ag_uf now? |
| 08:47.58 | Kivin | is there a way for me to define the size of the parent AceConfigDialog window? It opens up almost fullscreen =/ |
| 08:48.11 | Tifi | with or without raid/partyframes being spawned? |
| 08:48.16 | nevcairiel | Kivin: get a higher resolution imho, mine is pretty small :P |
| 08:48.29 | nevcairiel | or UIScale |
| 08:48.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:48.32 | Kivin | nevcairiel: 1400x1050 is just fine,t y |
| 08:48.46 | nevcairiel | then its your uiscale :) |
| 08:48.50 | Kivin | and i shouldn't have to change my whole ui scale just because the config dialog is massive |
| 08:49.22 | Tifi | Xinhuan? |
| 08:49.28 | Industrial | well the uiscale is massive by default |
| 08:49.28 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 08:49.34 | Industrial | I have it at the smallest and then its ok |
| 08:49.42 | Industrial | by default its like 200% |
| 08:49.52 | Kivin | My point is everything on my UI is fine |
| 08:50.06 | Industrial | not by my standards :D |
| 08:50.11 | Kivin | *sigh* |
| 08:50.13 | Nargiddley | Kivin, almost fullscreen sounds like its fine. bigger than fullscreen would be a problem |
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| 08:50.18 | Industrial | ^___^ |
| 08:50.23 | Tifi | the memory usage, with or without raid/partyframes being spawned? |
| 08:50.42 | Kivin | Nargiddley: It is a problem because it looks ridiculous. There should be something in the spec to adjust it on a per dialog basis |
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| 08:54.23 | Xinhuan | with of course |
| 08:54.34 | Xinhuan | xperl fully loaded up is under a mb |
| 08:58.06 | evl | I like haste's oUF :) |
| 08:58.13 | evl | unit frames for people that like to code! |
| 08:58.13 | Nargiddley | Kivin, it is exactly the same height as the 2.4 options panel, and maybe 100px wider. |
| 08:58.36 | Kivin | Nargiddley: it's too darned big |
| 08:58.51 | Kivin | it's more than twice as wide as i'd like it and three times taller |
| 08:58.58 | thul | I have to get a new desktop computer :-( |
| 08:59.01 | Tifi | oUF is more like a library, not real addon :> |
| 08:59.56 | Xinhuan | kivin, i personally think its too small :p |
| 09:00.15 | Xinhuan | the default size that is |
| 09:00.22 | Kivin | then we can agree that it needs a width/height in the config table |
| 09:01.09 | Nargiddley | not in the config table, and if you really want to you can set it now. There just isn't a function to directly do it yet |
| 09:01.09 | Xinhuan | no i didn't agree that |
| 09:01.19 | Xinhuan | i'm saying it looks too small on my UIScale and my resolution |
| 09:01.39 | Xinhuan | which means if i make my addon set a very big size to my liking |
| 09:01.47 | Xinhuan | it'll be larger than your screen if you use my addon |
| 09:01.50 | Kivin | You're saying it's too small, i'm saying it's grotesquely big. Is this not written for a fairly large audience? Should it not be customizable? |
| 09:01.59 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 09:02.21 | Xinhuan | if you think 600x400 is too big, and you set it say 400x300 |
| 09:02.25 | Nargiddley | it will be customizable, but by the addon author not the end user |
| 09:02.27 | Xinhuan | when i use your addon, i would think its way too small |
| 09:02.48 | Kivin | Nargiddley: Of course. The end user wont be adjusting the config table. |
| 09:02.54 | Nargiddley | but that *should* be used to make it fit the options, not fit your screen |
| 09:03.33 | Nargiddley | local s = LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):GetStatusTable("MyAddon") s.width = 300 s.height = 200 |
| 09:04.03 | Kivin | Sure, but even without any options in this dialog, I can't imagine how big you'd need the checkboxes i'm going to put in to fill the dialog |
| 09:04.28 | Nargiddley | theres a difference between a few checkboxes and no groups, and what most people use it for |
| 09:04.31 | Kivin | They'd need to be as big as golf balls with 32 pt text |
| 09:04.47 | Nargiddley | the options don't change size ? |
| 09:05.09 | Kivin | hmm? |
| 09:05.40 | Nargiddley | you're talking as if you've never used it |
| 09:05.53 | Kivin | Only a little |
| 09:06.18 | Kivin | Lack of documentation has discouraged me from using it more than once |
| 09:06.35 | Nargiddley | the options spec is fully documented |
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| 09:07.11 | Kivin | I had to nag in here for days until someone told me how to register the config table correctly then open the config dialog |
| 09:08.06 | Tifi | Kivin, you can use the ace3 version of ag_unitframes as the documentation =) |
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| 09:08.39 | Xinhuan | or Mapster |
| 09:08.41 | Xinhuan | or Routes |
| 09:08.43 | Xinhuan | or GatherMate |
| 09:08.52 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 09:08.58 | Kalroth | Sourcecode is proper documentation! |
| 09:09.02 | Kivin | I'm not interested enough to comb through hundreds and hundreds of lines of poorly/not documented code to learn how it works |
| 09:09.20 | Tifi | yea right |
| 09:09.37 | Kivin | there's 4 comments in 795 lines of aguf's config code |
| 09:09.51 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 09:09.54 | Tifi | dude |
| 09:09.59 | Tifi | code is documentation |
| 09:10.04 | Xinhuan | the config options table is so straight foward it doesn't need comments |
| 09:10.10 | Xinhuan | i dont' know what you're talking about |
| 09:10.19 | Xinhuan | it only took 30 minutes max to convert my rock options table to ace3 |
| 09:10.36 | Kivin | Honestly don't even know why we're having this conversation. All I wanted was a way to make the rutting config dialog smaller. |
| 09:10.57 | Tifi | =) |
| 09:11.00 | Xinhuan | yes but i'm telling you, making it smaller in your addon on screen, means it will be super tiny on another user's screen |
| 09:11.21 | Kivin | I can't see myself using it in it's current state |
| 09:11.48 | Kivin | what's the ace3 config version of rock's child_* |
| 09:11.48 | Xinhuan | its meant to be a generic library |
| 09:12.06 | Xinhuan | it doesn't need that option because by default most things are inherited |
| 09:12.12 | Xinhuan | from parent to child |
| 09:12.38 | Kivin | I don't want to have to repeat the same config table over and over for identical config pages. What do I do? |
| 09:12.54 | Xinhuan | you make a table local abc = {some config table} |
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| 09:13.02 | Xinhuan | then you have many tables all pointing to abc |
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| 09:13.21 | Kivin | then is there a passValue*? |
| 09:13.44 | Xinhuan | yes, the table key is passed in the first arg as info[#info] |
| 09:13.49 | Xinhuan | the root key is info[1] |
| 09:14.05 | Xinhuan | so info[1] to info[n] traces the full path in the aceopt table |
| 09:14.12 | Tifi | again, you can look at agUF for an example |
| 09:14.15 | Nargiddley | option.arg is passed as info.arg as well |
| 09:14.18 | Xinhuan | if you specified a arg= value, that is passed as info.arg |
| 09:14.43 | Xinhuan | and because get=, set=, disabled=, etc functions are all inheritted |
| 09:14.51 | Xinhuan | you can just make one function in the root |
| 09:14.54 | Xinhuan | which all gets inheritted |
| 09:15.34 | Xinhuan | only thing that bothers me is that rock aceopt tables allows spaces in the key |
| 09:15.36 | Xinhuan | ace3 doesn't |
| 09:15.45 | Xinhuan | so i have to strip out spaces in my keys |
| 09:16.01 | Xinhuan | i replace them with \255 in my implementation |
| 09:16.26 | Kivin | Not sure I get all this, yet, but I'll have to try it and see |
| 09:16.46 | Nargiddley | how does the console work with that ? |
| 09:16.55 | Tifi | Kivin, that's why i suggest you look at a working example like agUF |
| 09:16.59 | nevcairiel | rock doesnt have console Nargiddley |
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| 09:17.34 | Nargiddley | yeah, but injecting /255 into the Ace3 ones ? ew D: |
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| 09:21.23 | Tifi | doesnt wow have api functions to convert to and from camel case? |
| 09:21.46 | evl | I still think agUF could be more configurable |
| 09:21.50 | evl | atleast for hardcore people |
| 09:21.50 | zoktar | was wondering if anyone had success with multiple displays as of setting up their wow ui´ |
| 09:22.08 | evl | theme tables aare nice if you want to do simple stuff but for more advanced layouts it's easier just working directly on the frame objects imho |
| 09:22.20 | zoktar | iv gotten so far as i can move the mouse ingame to the other display but no items will move over |
| 09:24.44 | Kivin | <Nargiddley> option.arg is passed as info.arg as well |
| 09:24.59 | Kivin | Nargiddley: if i have field .arg in my 'group', should that not get passed into gets and sets? |
| 09:25.11 | Nargiddley | no |
| 09:25.22 | Kivin | what's option.arg? |
| 09:25.30 | Nargiddley | the actual option |
| 09:25.38 | Kivin | hmm, alrighty |
| 09:25.43 | Tifi | sth other than a group |
| 09:25.52 | Tifi | like type = 'input' |
| 09:25.54 | Kivin | guess that doesn't do me much good if all the options are shared |
| 09:26.02 | Kivin | i see the value, but not in this case |
| 09:26.03 | Kivin | th |
| 09:26.04 | Kivin | x |
| 09:26.21 | Kivin | Going to miss group.passValue from Rock very quickly |
| 09:26.34 | Nargiddley | info[#info - 1] is the parents key |
| 09:27.20 | Kivin | yeah... |
| 09:27.40 | Nargiddley | .arg is more useful when you define the set in the group, and specialise with the options, not the other way around |
| 09:28.06 | Kivin | yeah, i see the purpose for it. it was just sort of nice in rock to be able to set arg at the group level once in a while |
| 09:28.15 | Nargiddley | jira it |
| 09:28.33 | Nargiddley | I can see it being useful, see what others think about it. |
| 09:28.39 | Kivin | Alrighty |
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| 09:28.42 | CIA-8 | - new option "Persistent". Make a bar endure target death and dispel. |
| 09:28.51 | zoktar | anyone ever tried that ? have fullscreen wow in one display and all the ui stuff in another ? |
| 09:28.57 | Kivin | oh hells, wonder what my jira login is. been a long time since i used it |
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| 09:30.50 | Kivin | affected versions? RC1? Beta? |
| 09:31.04 | Nargiddley | Beta, fix for RC1 |
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| 09:33.48 | Tifi | Kivin, lets say you have an input widget at options.args.group1.args.myinput, then info[#info-2]=='group1' in the .set function of myinput. that way you can use the same input widget at options.args.group2.args.myinput, because info[#info-2]=='group2' in this case |
| 09:34.09 | Kivin | i understand, Tifi |
| 09:34.23 | Nargiddley | keys are a bit limited in passing information around |
| 09:34.34 | Kivin | the thing is, having args.group1.arg = HandleToTheObjectThisConfigRepresents is just a little easier |
| 09:34.52 | Kivin | and more familiar to someone that's written RockConfig tables |
| 09:34.58 | Nargiddley | handler is inherited if thats what you're after |
| 09:35.18 | Nargiddley | and i've already got a ticket open to add that to info |
| 09:35.21 | Tifi | sry, never touched rock |
| 09:35.49 | Kivin | Tifi: In rock, a group could have child_passValueN={SomeData} and that'd be passed in before any passValueNs in the actual child options |
| 09:37.19 | Kivin | { type='group', get=getfunc, set=setfunc, child_passValue=ThisGroupsTable, args={ {type='boolean', passValue2='enabled'} } function getfunc(group) return group.enabled end function setfunc(group, value) group.enabled = value end |
| 09:37.55 | Kivin | is the sort of way i'm used to doing tables in rock |
| 09:38.29 | Kivin | err it'd be more like getfunc(group, key) if key=="enabled" then... |
| 09:39.44 | Tifi | so get would be called with ThisGroupsTable as the group parameter? |
| 09:39.51 | Kivin | yes |
| 09:40.06 | Kivin | the group's passValues get pushed in first, then the child's passValues, if any |
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| 09:41.13 | CIA-8 | - cleanup |
| 09:41.30 | Kivin | not really any better, or more elegant than ace3's way of doing things. just different...and familiar |
| 09:42.34 | Kivin | problem I see with implementing it in ace3config is that there's only one arg, rather than arg1..argn |
| 09:43.20 | Tifi | arg cannot be a table? |
| 09:43.25 | Tifi | i think it can |
| 09:43.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.41 | Kivin | i mean, ace config doesn't have { .arg1 = "", .arg2 = "" } |
| 09:43.53 | Orionshock | Kivin: ya it does |
| 09:43.58 | Kivin | does it? |
| 09:44.00 | Orionshock | i use it everywhere |
| 09:44.12 | nevcairiel | just use the keys as args |
| 09:44.17 | nevcairiel | no need for multiple passvalues |
| 09:44.19 | Orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua |
| 09:44.35 | Orionshock | ugly options tbl at top |
| 09:44.44 | Kivin | nevcairiel: I'm trying to prevent having to use the info array at all. There just isn't enough connection between ... |
| 09:44.48 | Kivin | hang on while i check Orionshock's thing |
| 09:45.35 | Orionshock | the passed args to get/set are in the info tbl |
| 09:45.37 | Tifi | well, you should use the info table |
| 09:45.38 | Kivin | Orionshock: you aren't confusing arg with args, are you? |
| 09:45.51 | Orionshock | might be :D |
| 09:46.13 | Kivin | the problem is there isn't enough direct connection between info[#info-1] and the data that option represents |
| 09:46.48 | Tifi | and Kivin, you can use arg = {a,b,c}, and access it as info[#info].arg[1/2/3] |
| 09:46.59 | Orionshock | ^^ what i ment |
| 09:47.06 | Kivin | Tifi yes... but the options themselves are generic |
| 09:47.33 | Tifi | meaning? |
| 09:47.38 | nevcairiel | use the path in the info table .. thats all you get |
| 09:47.44 | nevcairiel | or one specific .arg |
| 09:47.56 | Kivin | Just isn't enough :( |
| 09:48.06 | Tifi | what do you want to do? |
| 09:48.08 | Orionshock | hum.. |
| 09:48.23 | nevcairiel | it should really be enough or you need to rethink your approach imho |
| 09:48.26 | Kivin | I want the group to pass the object that all it's children represent |
| 09:48.42 | Kivin | nevcairiel: exactly, i need to rethink my approach, which i didn't want to do. this was supposed to be easy |
| 09:49.00 | Tifi | be more specific please, what's your addon doing? |
| 09:49.08 | Kivin | popping the number off the end of the key with a pattern then passing that into an api to look up the right object is a lot of legwork |
| 09:49.37 | Kivin | Tifi: I'm just trying to get this around my head. I don't have anything in practice yet. My first implementation will most likely be an actionbar mod |
| 09:49.52 | nevcairiel | Ace3 wasnt designed to assist you into migrating existing ideas/addons over, it was designed with simplicity in mind for new addons and new approaches |
| 09:50.44 | nevcairiel | tbh i never looked at the rock options spec when giving my input to the Ace3 spec |
| 09:51.10 | Kivin | I don't know what to say, other than a key name just isn't adequate |
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| 09:51.32 | nevcairiel | key names + the .arg is all you get |
| 09:51.37 | Nargiddley | the handler is probably what you are after |
| 09:51.45 | Nargiddley | an object for the methods to be called on |
| 09:51.57 | Nargiddley | seems like you're abstracting that anyway |
| 09:52.19 | Orionshock | Kivin: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/GuildCraft/GuildCraft_Share/ChoicesUI.lua |
| 09:52.33 | Orionshock | it's another one of mine that uses a generated method to create the options table |
| 09:52.40 | Kivin | The only way I can save myself the legwork of reverse engineering the key name into some meaningful information is by having individual closures for every get/set, rather than generic functions |
| 09:52.43 | Orionshock | i found myself in the same seat |
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| 09:54.22 | Tifi | Kivin, why is it so bad to write a little helper function to do the conversion from the info table to that 'meaningful information' |
| 09:54.51 | Nargiddley | or just stick the functions into the table you're using as the token and use it as the handler ? |
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| 09:56.07 | Tifi | for example, i use aceconfig for my unitframe addon, and i use the same config table for every unit frame class (player/party/raid/etc), so the obvious way is to use the class id as the key i every single table that deals with unit frame classes |
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| 09:56.28 | Kivin | I didn't say it was bad, just silly to add all that overhead to (in some cases) one line functions |
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| 09:57.06 | Tifi | ... |
| 09:57.39 | nevcairiel | thats what a helper function does for you, local obj = objHelper(info_tbl); |
| 09:57.40 | nevcairiel | or so :P |
| 09:57.49 | Kivin | instead of function bar_visible_get(bar) return bar.visible end;, i get: function bar_visible_get(info) return addon.bars[info[#info-1]:match("%d")] end if i simplify it down a lot |
| 09:58.41 | Nargiddley | why not bar:GetVisible ? |
| 09:58.51 | Kivin | because bar isn't a frame, it's a table |
| 09:58.57 | Nargiddley | wtf |
| 09:59.03 | nevcairiel | frames are tables |
| 09:59.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:59.06 | Kivin | err... okay |
| 09:59.13 | Kivin | bar isn't a frame, it's a table that wraps the frame |
| 09:59.19 | Nargiddley | so ? |
| 09:59.35 | Kivin | in bt3 terms, think of it like class = { bar = bar } instead of bar = { class = class } |
| 09:59.44 | nevcairiel | you just have to define the :GetVisible function in your table |
| 09:59.50 | nevcairiel | and use bar as the handler |
| 10:00.01 | nevcairiel | and you can use self then :) |
| 10:00.14 | Kivin | but i'm using the same option table for every bar |
| 10:00.15 | Nargiddley | so class.getvisible = function(self) return self.bar.visible end class:getvisible() |
| 10:00.28 | Nargiddley | handler = class, get = "getvisible" |
| 10:00.48 | Kivin | unless handler works at the group level... |
| 10:00.56 | Kivin | we're in the same pos as arg |
| 10:01.04 | nevcairiel | handler is inherited |
| 10:01.16 | Nargiddley | and works at *any* level |
| 10:01.29 | Kivin | alright, that could work |
| 10:01.57 | Kivin | no matter how much i read the specs, i still see and think things in terms of RockConfig |
| 10:02.20 | Nargiddley | doesnt it do handler the same way ? |
| 10:02.29 | Nargiddley | its the same as the Ace2 tables at least |
| 10:02.32 | Kivin | If it does, I've never had to because of child_passValeu |
| 10:02.47 | zoktar | isnt there a way to have WoW on one screen and gui stuff on another ? |
| 10:02.48 | nevcairiel | i never liked passValue, even in Ace2 tables |
| 10:02.58 | Nargiddley | neither |
| 10:03.01 | nevcairiel | zoktar: yes there is, but dont ask me how :D |
| 10:03.01 | Kivin | If I was doing this in rock (actually, I *did* this in rock), I set the class as the group's arg |
| 10:03.27 | Nargiddley | 4? different things that could be passed to functions depending on type and other stuff *shudder* |
| 10:03.36 | zoktar | nevcairiel me wants! ;P |
| 10:03.37 | Nargiddley | ugh that was a pain to implmenent |
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| 10:03.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:03.50 | Nargiddley | from both sides of it |
| 10:03.58 | Kivin | my colour handlers in KivinsEZPanels looked like: function color_get(group, key, a, r, g, b) |
| 10:04.08 | Nargiddley | hmm what comes first, passValue or the key from a multitoggle D: |
| 10:04.21 | Kivin | 1 before 2, 2 before 3 |
| 10:04.33 | Kivin | it was child_passValue (which is child_passValue1 implicitly) |
| 10:04.36 | Nargiddley | which is why func(info, value) as the signature for everything = <3 |
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| 10:04.49 | Kivin | I still think ace3 would be better with a group.arg |
| 10:05.09 | Kivin | .grouparg or something :p |
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| 10:05.53 | Kivin | I assume inheritance gets clobbered if a child redeclares something, specifically handler |
| 10:06.14 | Nargiddley | closest non nil value to the option is used |
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| 10:06.37 | Kivin | I'm now thinking of how i could save more memory by sharing the actual bar group table |
| 10:06.50 | Tifi | omg |
| 10:08.01 | Tifi | i mean, while i think it's good that you care about memory, it's a complete waste of time to even *think* about saving memory for your config screen |
| 10:08.25 | Tifi | just make it lod |
| 10:08.31 | Kivin | meh, it's nearing downtime and i can't do anything else. and pitbull's config takes three times the unitframes' memory |
| 10:08.31 | Orionshock_ | ya, people touch it once and never again |
| 10:09.24 | Kivin | It's more of a curiosity and an excersise in ace3 config proficiency than practice use |
| 10:09.51 | Tifi | maybe but still it's a complete waste of time =) |
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| 10:10.15 | Orionshock_ | Kivin: so the problem is that you don't want to rip apart the info table because the config tbl keys are not enough to be viable? |
| 10:10.21 | Kivin | A bigger waste of time than sitting on an IRC channel telling people they're wasting their time? |
| 10:10.33 | Kivin | Orionshock: i think so, yes |
| 10:10.50 | Kivin | knowing the key name isn't enough information to make a direct connection to the data that option represents |
| 10:10.52 | Orionshock_ | ok, then use the arg table... and pass the needed keys there. what i did |
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| 10:11.06 | Kivin | UNLESS the key name could be a table... but i suspect that's no good for the sake of console compability |
| 10:11.09 | Orionshock_ | s/key/info |
| 10:11.43 | Orionshock_ | static table or generated one? |
| 10:11.43 | Kivin | the problem is the args option table is generic across all (in this case) Bars |
| 10:12.31 | Kivin | Think of it as a tree: Bar Config, Bar1, Bar2, Bar3, Bar4... |
| 10:12.38 | Kivin | Where barN is a child of Bar Config |
| 10:12.47 | Kivin | and bar1...N are the same table |
| 10:12.55 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.08 | Orionshock_ | the file i linked is a generated options table |
| 10:13.57 | Orionshock_ | then your looking at doing BarConfig.args.Bar1.arg = {"Bar1"} |
| 10:14.21 | Orionshock_ | err |
| 10:14.42 | Kivin | basically |
| 10:14.44 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.48 | Orionshock_ | it works |
| 10:15.05 | Orionshock_ | then in the get/set func you use, info.arg[1] & info.arg[2] |
| 10:15.07 | Kivin | except Bar1.args."SomeOption".arg will set the same arg for bar1...N |
| 10:15.15 | Kivin | because bar1...N share the same options table |
| 10:15.25 | Orionshock_ | ...ok then your doing it wrong. |
| 10:15.30 | Kivin | BarConfig.args.Bar1.arg = {"Bar1"} is EXACTLY what I want |
| 10:15.31 | Orionshock_ | they all need their own tables |
| 10:15.37 | Kivin | I'm not doing it *wrong* |
| 10:15.41 | Orionshock_ | :D |
| 10:15.56 | Orionshock_ | each bar get's it's own table, it's easy |
| 10:16.15 | Kivin | Just one of many options |
| 10:16.24 | Orionshock_ | any other way is voodo and magic that they don't want to do |
| 10:16.27 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, each bar with the same table is perfectly fine. We showed him how to get it working using the handler |
| 10:16.37 | Kivin | Indeed |
| 10:16.38 | Orionshock_ | hehe... |
| 10:16.53 | Nargiddley | you just managed to jump him backwards about 3 steps just after somehow :P |
| 10:17.02 | Tifi | lol |
| 10:17.04 | Orionshock_ | lol sorry |
| 10:17.06 | Orionshock_ | -.- |
| 10:17.11 | Kivin | Nah |
| 10:17.20 | Nargiddley | well, the conversation at least |
| 10:17.21 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 10:17.25 | Kivin | heh, maybe that |
| 10:17.32 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.33 | Kivin | I've had adequate time to process all the information I've been given and make sense of it |
| 10:17.55 | evl | Jeebus, where is all the hit rating on the 2.4 rogue gear :( |
| 10:18.03 | evl | haste + armor penetration lol nvm you miss 10% :( |
| 10:18.13 | Kivin | i still think BarConfig.args.Bar1.arg = {"Bar1"} is the most elegant way to do it (even Orionshock came up with it intuitively while trying to do something different!) but I'll make do... |
| 10:18.46 | Nargiddley | I think the handler is perfectly elegant |
| 10:18.51 | Kivin | Sure |
| 10:19.05 | Nargiddley | since you tell it to call methods on the object you're actually manipulating |
| 10:19.08 | Kivin | I'm not saying one way is more or less correct. I'm just trying to find familiar ground. |
| 10:19.12 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 10:22.48 | Tifi | Nargiddley, i'm using a custom widget in my config (type='input'), and i want it to be centered, so what i do is set self.width = "fill". but this is always reset to nil, so i set it to 'fill' every time :SetWidth is called... is there a less hackish way? |
| 10:23.46 | Nargiddley | set it in OnAquire is probably slightly less of a hack |
| 10:24.06 | Nargiddley | damn whoever took months to point out that spelling mistake btw >< |
| 10:24.16 | Kivin | o_o which? |
| 10:25.00 | Kivin | oh |
| 10:25.13 | Xinhuan | like the color select disabling one? :D |
| 10:25.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:25.23 | Nargiddley | Acquire is correct >< |
| 10:25.27 | Kivin | yeah :P |
| 10:25.30 | Kivin | it sure is... lol. |
| 10:25.36 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i still love you for making routes |
| 10:25.58 | Kivin | I'm such a lazybutt. I still need to convert over my carto_* stuff to ace3 mods |
| 10:25.58 | Nargiddley | problem is, fixing it = break every custom widget out there :P |
| 10:26.12 | Nargiddley | so I should really do it soon |
| 10:26.17 | Orionshock | do it |
| 10:26.18 | Kivin | Nargiddley: You could keep the spelling mistake one and point it to the correct one, for backwards comapt |
| 10:26.20 | Kivin | compat* |
| 10:26.35 | Xinhuan | for a beta ace3 |
| 10:26.39 | Xinhuan | i thinking breaking stuff isn't tat bad |
| 10:27.04 | Orionshock | all beta so braking it = ok, if your using beta stuff, stay ontop of it |
| 10:27.12 | Xinhuan | also, custom widgets aren't really in widespread use |
| 10:27.13 | Nargiddley | Kivin, its one of the functions a widget can define to be called |
| 10:27.19 | Xinhuan | since aceopt tables is easier to define |
| 10:27.24 | Kivin | lovely :P |
| 10:27.31 | Tifi | ok that works, thx. btw is there a reason setwidth is called 4 times in a row? |
| 10:27.41 | Nargiddley | and Xinhuan, they work from a table now |
| 10:27.51 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 10:28.10 | Xinhuan | explain |
| 10:28.16 | Nargiddley | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 10:28.17 | nevcairiel | you can use 2 types of custom widgets in a opt table, |
| 10:28.23 | Nargiddley | section at the bottom, is implemented |
| 10:28.40 | Nargiddley | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9545/blizconfigtestzi8.png check the rebirth icon |
| 10:28.54 | Nargiddley | which is draggable on/off and can take items and macros |
| 10:29.06 | nevcairiel | thats nice |
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| 10:29.37 | Kivin | The specs show that a range.min and range.max cannot be functions, is this correct? |
| 10:29.51 | Tifi | yup |
| 10:29.51 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 10:30.04 | Kivin | Hmmmmmmmm |
| 10:30.09 | Xinhuan | well those aren't exactly custom |
| 10:30.22 | nevcairiel | you can do like anything with a input widget |
| 10:30.38 | nevcairiel | you just have to define how it behaves |
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| 10:30.54 | Nargiddley | theres a couple of uses for the select widget that would be kinda hard with an input one |
| 10:30.55 | Kivin | can i change min and max during runtime and have it update on the gui? |
| 10:31.04 | elusif | what is the best leatherworking specialization for a pvp rogue? |
| 10:31.07 | Nargiddley | kivin, you can change anything |
| 10:31.08 | elusif | plx |
| 10:31.23 | Orionshock | elusif: elemental |
| 10:31.28 | elusif | why? |
| 10:31.32 | Kivin | so much for generic config tables |
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| 10:31.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.40 | Diao | the best specialization is get pvp gear! |
| 10:31.40 | elusif | lol |
| 10:31.45 | elusif | k k |
| 10:31.49 | elusif | ya i do loads of pvp |
| 10:31.51 | elusif | every 10 levels |
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| 10:31.56 | elusif | until i have all the rewars |
| 10:31.57 | Orionshock | elemental is balance druid |
| 10:32.01 | Xinhuan | Widget API requred to be implemented by custom AceGUI widgets when used with AceConfigDialog-3.0 (this part of the spec is not finalised) |
| 10:32.05 | Xinhuan | not quite understanding that part |
| 10:32.05 | elusif | but my prof is lw - and i need to specialize |
| 10:32.11 | Diao | ah |
| 10:32.26 | elusif | would you agree with orion that tribal is best? |
| 10:32.40 | Nargiddley | those are the functions/callbacks that the widgets have to have to be usable |
| 10:32.41 | nevcairiel | the specs arent really that useful overall *shrug |
| 10:32.58 | elusif | :( |
| 10:32.59 | Wobin | It's true |
| 10:33.02 | Tifi | Nargiddley, could the dialogControl thing be extended to type='description'? i use a custom widget to display a preview unit frame, that way you can configure you raid frames without being in a raid. so the preview frame is pretty much like an image, because the user can't really interact with it |
| 10:33.03 | Xinhuan | ok, my understanding is that i can specify type=input |
| 10:33.05 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:33.13 | Diao | isn't tribal the "windhawk" set at 70 |
| 10:33.14 | Wobin | pvp gear will suit you better than any of the spec lw |
| 10:33.15 | Xinhuan | and it would be using my own AceGuiWidget control for this? |
| 10:33.17 | Diao | and elemental is "primal"? |
| 10:33.22 | Nargiddley | tifi, description has an image |
| 10:33.27 | Tifi | i know |
| 10:33.28 | Diao | cause primal is the "rogue/feral druid" set |
| 10:33.35 | Xinhuan | is that what you're saying? |
| 10:33.38 | Nargiddley | ah I see, nm |
| 10:33.38 | Tifi | oh |
| 10:33.46 | Tifi | k ^^ |
| 10:33.46 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan, yes |
| 10:34.09 | Xinhuan | so i have to register my own type=input widget right? does that overwrite the default one? |
| 10:34.11 | Tifi | it's actually a real unit frame, it just behaves like an image in this case ^^ |
| 10:34.28 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: nah you use dialogControl="MyWidget" on the specific key in the tabl |
| 10:34.30 | nevcairiel | *table |
| 10:34.36 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 10:34.39 | Nargiddley | no, you just set dialogControl = "WidgetName" on the option |
| 10:34.50 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:34.57 | Wobin | PrimalStrike set is a bit disappointing |
| 10:35.05 | Wobin | Windhawk set is a druid set |
| 10:35.17 | Xinhuan | so type = "input", dialogControl = "MyWidget", would use that widget, and OnEnterPressed= is the callback |
| 10:35.24 | Diao | the main reason for lw is the drums imo |
| 10:35.35 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 10:36.02 | Xinhuan | which means, i only need to create a mechanism that calls :Fire() on that callback in that widget, is that right? |
| 10:36.16 | Nargiddley | the widget does self:Fire("OnEnterPressed", text) when it wants to send a value |
| 10:36.41 | Xinhuan | so its up to me to determine when to do self:Fire("OnEnterPressed", text) |
| 10:36.47 | Nargiddley | basically it just pretends to be an EditBox widget and AceConfigDialog doesnt care what it really is |
| 10:36.47 | Xinhuan | that's a good method |
| 10:37.36 | Nargiddley | that API is simply the functions that ConfigDialog calls, and the callbacks it listens for |
| 10:37.45 | elusif | ty for input on lw Diao/Orionshock, i will ask some rogues |
| 10:37.49 | Xinhuan | ok i think i understand fully now |
| 10:38.07 | Xinhuan | so i could easily have a button's OnClick fire the callback |
| 10:38.17 | Xinhuan | since that's just the aceconfig format required |
| 10:38.41 | Megalon | elusif: rogue? elemental |
| 10:38.46 | Orionshock | elusif: no need to ask, wowhead it, and i was right the first time, go Elemental |
| 10:38.52 | Orionshock | ... gg i got my specs backwards |
| 10:38.59 | Megalon | dragon = mail, tribal = heal/spelldmg |
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| 10:39.08 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 10:39.12 | Wobin | But yeah |
| 10:39.19 | Orionshock | it's been a long time |
| 10:39.19 | Wobin | PrimalStrike is still disappointing |
| 10:39.28 | Kivin | Me wants the dragon leatherworking set for my elemental shaman |
| 10:39.58 | Wobin | a lot of ap, I guess though |
| 10:40.15 | Kivin | generally, i agree, though, that the LW epics are pretty dissapointing. |
| 10:41.28 | Diao | hm i wonder |
| 10:41.28 | Orionshock | they kinda have to be |
| 10:42.09 | Diao | is sylvanaar going to merge updates to wim into prat_wim :o |
| 10:42.21 | Orionshock | can't be giving ilvl 125 epics to casuals now.. that would be ... well what they are doing with heroics.. & ... |
| 10:42.34 | Diao | and craftable items :P |
| 10:42.47 | Diao | like the boe patterns from ssc/tk/mh/bt that create bop items |
| 10:42.58 | Diao | and more from sunwell |
| 10:43.12 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.23 | Orionshock | ooh better one "SomeHell" |
| 10:43.29 | Poul|Raider | anyone seen any combatlog's from any of the raids that have been on ptr that they can share? |
| 10:44.44 | Kivin | Is there a way i can make my config dialog not show options like: |
| 10:44.47 | Kivin | [Option1][Option2] |
| 10:44.51 | Kivin | [Option3][Option4] |
| 10:45.07 | Orionshock | nope, no layout options yet |
| 10:45.16 | Kivin | yikes |
| 10:45.30 | nevcairiel | Kivin: you can force line breaks |
| 10:45.38 | Orionshock | irritating isn't it, lots of cool options and works nicely but... no layout controls |
| 10:45.41 | Nargiddley | please tell me you don't want [ Option1 ] D: |
| 10:45.41 | Kivin | nevcairiel: how? |
| 10:46.01 | Kivin | err? |
| 10:46.04 | nevcairiel | Kivin: either put it in a inline group with no name, or set its width to "full" |
| 10:46.05 | Nargiddley | you want a stack of options don't you ? |
| 10:46.07 | Orionshock | Kivin: use a descriptions |
| 10:46.08 | Kivin | I want them to stack vertically, not horizontally |
| 10:46.09 | Xinhuan | spacer = {type = "description", name=""} |
| 10:46.20 | nevcairiel | or add a description :P |
| 10:46.21 | Nargiddley | width = "full" on everything D: |
| 10:46.27 | Nargiddley | ugh thats ugly |
| 10:46.46 | nevcairiel | Nargiddley: depends on the control, checkboxes look the same with width=full .. everything else gets ugly =P |
| 10:46.47 | Kivin | umm oookay... so easiest solution? wrap everything in an inline group? |
| 10:47.02 | Orionshock | well if there wasn't a 1/4 in spacer on the right it wouldn't be :P |
| 10:47.10 | Nargiddley | Kivin, width = "full" |
| 10:47.15 | Nargiddley | that IS the solution |
| 10:47.15 | Tifi | you could put them in different inline groups |
| 10:47.20 | Kivin | <nevcairiel> Nargiddley: depends on the control, checkboxes look the same with width=full .. everything else gets ugly =P |
| 10:47.34 | Xinhuan | kivin the whole point of AceConfigDialog3 is that the layout is all automatic ;p |
| 10:47.42 | Kivin | read: ugly |
| 10:47.45 | Xinhuan | that's why is nice |
| 10:47.54 | nevcairiel | its probably easier to just add descriptions as linebreaks |
| 10:47.57 | Kivin | there's a point where you get too automatic |
| 10:48.06 | Tifi | why don't you write your own config screen? |
| 10:48.07 | Xinhuan | rock's one is ugly |
| 10:48.11 | Xinhuan | its all in one column |
| 10:48.29 | Nargiddley | a stack of options is just as automatic, you can do that if you really want peoples eyes to bleed tho |
| 10:48.41 | Kivin | Tifi: I already have |
| 10:48.44 | Orionshock | i say that they are both functionaly ugly, one dosn't offer any and the other dosn't give enough |
| 10:49.07 | nevcairiel | automated config screens can only do so much |
| 10:49.16 | nevcairiel | you're free to use AceGUI directly |
| 10:49.17 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 10:49.24 | nevcairiel | without AceConfig |
| 10:50.12 | Orionshock | i have, and it's a horrid mess too, so i'll live with the confines of the options table. |
| 10:50.39 | Kivin | Well, that alarms me because I asked around here for a good week on how to use AceGUI with no answers until I realized I was asking the wrong questions and really wanted ConfigDialog. I'm not sure I want to return down that path of not knowing what the hell AceGUI does. |
| 10:51.25 | Orionshock | Kivin: it's not pritty |
| 10:51.28 | nevcairiel | AceConfigDialog basically only converts the table to AceGUI calls |
| 10:51.40 | nevcairiel | and manages the callbacks |
| 10:51.42 | Kivin | yes |
| 10:52.00 | Kivin | I'd much rather go back to rock than gut ConfigDialog to learn how GUI ticks, though |
| 10:52.40 | Kivin | Is Waterfall dependent on Ace2? |
| 10:52.52 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 10:52.54 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:52.56 | Kivin | poo |
| 10:53.01 | Nargiddley | but waterfall sucks, dont use it for anything new |
| 10:53.04 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:53.16 | Kivin | It's an awful lot better than configdialog3, if you don't mind me saying. |
| 10:53.16 | Tifi | then why did you even care about aceconfig is rock is what you want? |
| 10:53.40 | Kivin | If my few exceptionally simple requests were fulfilled, ace3 would be what I want |
| 10:53.49 | nevcairiel | which are? |
| 10:53.52 | Tifi | lol |
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| 10:54.10 | Kivin | allow me to resize the dialog. allow me to change the option control flow. give me a group arg |
| 10:54.20 | nevcairiel | 2 and 3 are not going to happen |
| 10:54.23 | Nargiddley | waterfall does neither of the first |
| 10:54.48 | Kivin | I have no idea how waterfall works so i'm not obliged to comment. resizing isn't necessary because it actually looks natural on my screen |
| 10:54.50 | Nargiddley | and Ace2's passValues were limited and confusing :/ |
| 10:54.53 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.04 | Kivin | let it flow vertically rather than horizontally then vertically |
| 10:55.14 | nevcairiel | that would really suck |
| 10:55.17 | nevcairiel | imho. |
| 10:55.20 | Tifi | lol yea |
| 10:55.22 | Orionshock | ya, that'd be a bitch to impliment |
| 10:55.31 | nevcairiel | if you need linebreaks, just add them explicitly |
| 10:55.42 | Kivin | why? anchor things topleft-bottomleft instead of right to left |
| 10:56.02 | nevcairiel | that would like double the length of all my option tables |
| 10:56.11 | nevcairiel | i like having 2 checkboxes on the same line |
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| 10:56.36 | CIA-8 | AmmoGnome: |
| 10:56.36 | CIA-8 | - Fixed |
| 10:56.36 | CIA-8 | - Fixed toc |
| 10:56.42 | Kivin | then don't set the argument in the group that causes that behavior? |
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| 10:56.51 | Nargiddley | Kivin, you want to remove one of the things that I specifically designed the whole thing to achieve. Getting rid of the godawful stack of controls that Waterfall had for something closer to a proper dialog. |
| 10:57.13 | Xinhuan | kivin, i suggest you download Mapster, Routes and/or GatherMate and see how their config systems work |
| 10:57.19 | Xinhuan | before you comment further |
| 10:57.21 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I intend to |
| 10:57.25 | Xinhuan | do it now kgo |
| 10:57.32 | Kivin | downtime |
| 10:57.40 | CIA-8 | 03zariel * r61047 10AmmoGnome/: |
| 10:57.40 | CIA-8 | AmmoGnome: |
| 10:57.40 | CIA-8 | - Auto refills ammo from vendors |
| 10:58.12 | Arrowmaster | Zariel: do you know how many reagent buying mods exist? |
| 10:58.22 | nevcairiel | but how many are named gnome? :D |
| 10:58.30 | Arrowmaster | damnit |
| 10:58.34 | Arrowmaster | you got me there |
| 10:58.35 | Orionshock | 2? |
| 10:58.38 | Nargiddley | 3? |
| 10:58.52 | Arrowmaster | wait its more than 1? |
| 10:59.17 | Orionshock | Kivin: and if u want a half ass example of how the GUI Lib works solo... go get my addon... |
| 10:59.23 | sb_ | is Ace3 config going to be integrated in that 2.4 option menu? |
| 10:59.34 | Nargiddley | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9545/blizconfigtestzi8.png |
| 10:59.35 | Xinhuan | sb_, the 2.4 options menu takes in a frame |
| 10:59.45 | sb_ | ah okay |
| 10:59.46 | sb_ | so yes? :p |
| 10:59.47 | Xinhuan | so you can pretty much embed any frame (including ace3 config) into it |
| 11:00.07 | Zariel | Arrowmaster, i wrote it ages ago because i was sick of running out of ammo whilst questing :) |
| 11:00.20 | Tifi | does it support lod options? |
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| 11:00.36 | Xinhuan | tifi, its just a frame you embed into blizard's one |
| 11:00.38 | Xinhuan | its your own frame |
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| 11:00.59 | Xinhuan | it has a standard fixed height/width |
| 11:01.11 | Xinhuan | so space is limited unless you make that frame a scrollframe |
| 11:01.17 | Xinhuan | but its still a small space |
| 11:01.31 | Kivin | I'll certainly look at GatherMate's config dialog, but before I go, let me query you which of these looks more sane? And yes, It's just a skeleton dialog for demenstrative purposes. |
| 11:01.33 | Xinhuan | so you can certainly make a LoD frame |
| 11:01.40 | Kivin | http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=config1fk6.jpg versus http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=config2ne1.jpg |
| 11:01.43 | Tifi | ok i guess one could use onshow to load a config lod addon |
| 11:02.02 | Xinhuan | nah, you can just have a dummy frame there with a button that says "Load real config" |
| 11:02.08 | Xinhuan | and clicking it will load the real config in its place |
| 11:02.21 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
| 11:02.31 | Lukian | anyone on the ptr atm? |
| 11:02.39 | Orionshock | Kivin: you got a point some what if those are your only options in a given window |
| 11:02.46 | Tifi | maybe but auto-lod ftw :> |
| 11:03.00 | Orionshock | ...only thing that could be said is to put in descriptions after each one. |
| 11:03.09 | Orionshock | that way it <br>'s them |
| 11:03.14 | Lukian | can someone query 27755 on PTR and tell me if the spelldmg has changed to str? |
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| 11:03.26 | Kivin | Orionshock: Granted, i can linebreak them, but that doesn't change the disgusting amount of whitespace |
| 11:03.46 | CIA-8 | 03whitetooth * r61048 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 11:03.46 | CIA-8 | StatLogicLib: |
| 11:03.46 | CIA-8 | - GetGemID(item) - Returns the gemID and gemText of a gem for use in links |
| 11:03.46 | CIA-8 | - BuildGemmedTooltip(item, red, yellow, blue, meta) - Returns a modified link with all empty sockets replaced with the specified gems |
| 11:03.46 | CIA-8 | - ModEnchantGem(link, enc, gem1, gem2, gem3, gem4) |
| 11:03.48 | CIA-8 | - GetDiffID(item, [ignoreEnchant], [ignoreGem], [red], [yellow], [blue], [meta]) |
| 11:03.51 | Isola | Ay captains! I just came up with a addon idea last night and im wondering if its possible at all. I would like a "grid" (like the raidUI grid) but with all the mobs/bosses/adds in combat instead of ze raid. Has it been done or is it possible to create? |
| 11:03.52 | CIA-8 | - GetDiff(item, [diff1], [diff2], [ignoreEnchant], [ignoreGem], [red], [yellow], [blue], [meta]) |
| 11:04.36 | Snago | Isola: not possible |
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| 11:04.53 | Isola | Snago: is it possible at all to list the mobs in combat? |
| 11:05.14 | Xinhuan | meh whitetooth is adding a lot of stuff to the point i just want to pull out the 3 tables i use in it |
| 11:05.15 | Kivin | Isola: At this time, it's impossible to tell the difference between two mobs with the same name at the code level |
| 11:05.26 | CIA-8 | 03whitetooth * r61049 10RatingBuster/ (3 files): |
| 11:05.26 | CIA-8 | RatingBuster: |
| 11:05.26 | CIA-8 | - Public version 1.3.5 |
| 11:05.26 | CIA-8 | - NEW: Default gems for empty sockets! Set the gems to use for each socket using /rb sum gem |
| 11:05.26 | CIA-8 | - Fixed: Profiles should now work |
| 11:05.27 | CIA-8 | - Changed: Use "/rb win" to open the options window instead of "/rb optionswin" |
| 11:05.30 | Isola | ah |
| 11:05.36 | Xinhuan | and make that my own little constants data file |
| 11:06.03 | Isola | Are u able to use the raid marks as identifier? |
| 11:06.20 | Kivin | Furthermore, it's impossible to make a frame that reacts to user actions (like mouse clicks) to a specific unit (monster) unless it's preprogrammed prior to combat to a specific unitID (target, focus, pet, party1) |
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| 11:06.29 | Isola | So that all mobs with a mark get in to a list? |
| 11:06.47 | Orionshock | no |
| 11:06.55 | Kivin | So you can't just say "when a unique mob is detected, add a frame to the grid that collects data about that mob" |
| 11:07.14 | Snago | making a list with all different mobs that has appeared in the combat log will be possible in 2.4, but you'll only be able to get health of the ones you're target/focusing or is targeted by anyone in your raid |
| 11:07.15 | Isola | snap |
| 11:07.34 | Kivin | you can say, before you reach combat: "grid (1,1) reacts to my target" "Grid (1,2) reacts to my focus" "Grid (1,3) reacts to my raid member 13" |
| 11:07.52 | Isola | ok |
| 11:07.55 | Kivin | which is precisely what grid does |
| 11:08.03 | Kivin | in a sort |
| 11:08.13 | Isola | ok, god i love irc :) |
| 11:08.35 | Kivin | The only real meaningful difference in 2.4 is that we can tell two monsters apart that have the same name. |
| 11:08.40 | Xinhuan | raid marks isn't a valid unitID basically hence its not possible |
| 11:08.48 | Isola | ah |
| 11:08.50 | Isola | makes sense |
| 11:08.51 | Kivin | But we can't reference those monsters unless they can be reached via a UnitID (target, focus, party1..n, pet) |
| 11:09.23 | Isola | But i remembered back in good old CT_RAID the raid assist could put up a list with mobs or something like that |
| 11:09.40 | nevcairiel | that was before secure code =P |
| 11:10.02 | Snago | before secure code the possibilities were endless ;) |
| 11:10.04 | Kivin | With burning crusade came significant security changes to the addon system |
| 11:10.20 | Isola | omg |
| 11:10.28 | Kivin | Now anything that deals with performing an action (item, spell, macro) or interacting with a unit in some way has to be pre-programmed outside of combat |
| 11:10.35 | Isola | you are like angry ppl sitting around in a dark irc channel hating |
| 11:10.38 | Xinhuan | Kivin, the problem is your frame cannot change which unitID it refernces in-combat :) |
| 11:10.45 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I know |
| 11:10.46 | Tifi | o.O? |
| 11:10.55 | Snago | hating? |
| 11:10.57 | Xinhuan | so if you determined SKULL is "raid13target", and skull changes in combat, you can't change that ;p |
| 11:11.10 | Isola | yeah the UI changes ^^ |
| 11:11.16 | Xinhuan | you're stuck with that frame always applying to "raid13target" |
| 11:11.21 | Isola | ah |
| 11:11.36 | Isola | so i guess my sIMBA addon just have to stay as a dream |
| 11:11.45 | Kivin | Xinhuan: But you still can't just walk through an arbitrary array of nearby sprites to find which one has the star over it's head, then attempt to convert that into a UnitID |
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| 11:11.54 | Kivin | Even if you could change the UnitIDs on UFs |
| 11:11.55 | Snago | no, I think the changes was for the better. I prefer to play the game myself kthxbai.. |
| 11:12.16 | Tifi | you think they use sprites in wow? |
| 11:12.16 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r61050 10BankItems/ (BankItems.toc localization-deDE.lua): BankItems: added deDE |
| 11:12.27 | Kivin | Tifi: Shush. It's a general term. |
| 11:12.34 | Kivin | It's a tough pill to swallow, Isola, but it's for the better. |
| 11:12.59 | Snago | just spamming one button and having an addon play for you is bound to get boring |
| 11:13.15 | Kivin | Look at it this way. Before secure code, a raid member could and would dispel every ailment known to man with the click of a single button. They can't do that any more, but blizz is less likely to script encounters that make such behaviour necessary. |
| 11:14.06 | Kivin | Sure, dispelling is important, but you don't need six paladins and three mages playing whackamole constantly to keep everyone alive |
| 11:15.20 | Tifi | is there an addon that reimplement the chat windows? |
| 11:15.27 | Kivin | Fifteen mins into downtime. Four-hundred sixty-five remain. |
| 11:16.02 | Kivin | could you be more specific? |
| 11:16.15 | Kivin | everything i know of uses the existing chat frames and wraps specific elements |
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| 11:16.40 | ZealotOnAStick | What are you wanting to accomplish with such an addon? |
| 11:17.17 | Tifi | yea, but the existing chat frames implementation is kind of the ugliest code known to man |
| 11:17.47 | Kivin | Sure, it's ugly. But what would we gain to rewrite the whole damn thing |
| 11:18.23 | Kivin | There's a dozen and half other places that could be rewritten as well in the name of clarity and good coding practice. Before long, you'd be rewriting the entire FrameXML |
| 11:18.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Tifi: again, what precisely are you wanting to accomplish? |
| 11:19.15 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r61051 10BankItemsFu/ (BankItemsFu.lua BankItemsFu.toc): BankItemsFu: added deDE, UTF-8 |
| 11:19.15 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r61052 10Grid/GridStatusHeals.lua: |
| 11:19.15 | CIA-8 | Grid: GridStatusHeals: |
| 11:19.15 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:22.06 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r61053 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Optional/MainTank: Fix spaces -> tabs. |
| 11:25.43 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r61054 10Grid/GridStatusHeals.lua: Grid: GridStatusHeals: Don't load the module at all without healcomm. |
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| 11:30.20 | Arrowmaster | bah its cold outside and i know im going to regret this |
| 11:30.26 | Valoran | Poul|Raider: http://elitistjerks.com/634266-post816.html |
| 11:30.35 | Arrowmaster | gota go move my car =( |
| 11:30.37 | Valoran | it's not much, but it's something, atleast gives you an idea on the format. |
| 11:31.00 | Poul|Raider | got an idea of the format, just need logs to debug my parser |
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| 11:33.52 | Kivin | Got some really bizarre shit going on with my computer's sound |
| 11:34.31 | Kivin | Games sound all crackly all of a sudden, and videos randomly sound crackly unless I seek to a new position (even if it's 1 sec later) |
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| 11:37.47 | CIA-8 | ow |
| 11:38.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah regreting it |
| 11:38.23 | Arrowmaster | fucking cold |
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| 11:38.58 | Orionshock | lame can't download the file w/o logging in... |
| 11:39.36 | Arrowmaster | cooooollllldddd |
| 11:40.58 | Arrowmaster | going to go crawl in bed and hope i can warm up and goto sleep |
| 11:41.32 | Orionshock | vodka, it works wonders Arrowmaster |
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| 11:57.22 | Zariel | Need more irssi themes :E |
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| 12:10.46 | Recluse | _waypoints usable in bg's or no? |
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| 12:11.28 | kalahassi | where can i read something about 2.4 and the GUIDs ? |
| 12:12.43 | sylvanaar_work | anyone know where i can get the vista rc1 rtm? |
| 12:12.45 | JoshBorke | kalahassi: wow 2.4 changes thread |
| 12:12.55 | sylvanaar_work | s/rc1/sp1/ |
| 12:13.57 | Tifi | banana |
| 12:14.02 | Tifi | s/a/o |
| 12:14.10 | Tifi | hm |
| 12:14.25 | Tifi | purl doesn't like me |
| 12:14.45 | Recluse | Tifi: only does whole words mebbe? |
| 12:15.10 | Tifi | b a n a n a |
| 12:15.12 | Tifi | s/a/o |
| 12:15.17 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 12:15.20 | Recluse | boo |
| 12:15.24 | Recluse | lol |
| 12:15.55 | Tifi | ok one more try |
| 12:16.01 | Tifi | anyone know where i can get the vista rc1 rtm? |
| 12:16.04 | Tifi | s/rc1/sp1/ |
| 12:16.07 | Tifi | huh |
| 12:16.22 | nevcairiel | b a n a n a |
| 12:16.27 | nevcairiel | s/a/o/ |
| 12:16.37 | nevcairiel | b a n a n a |
| 12:16.40 | nevcairiel | s/a/o/g |
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| 12:17.27 | [SW]Dodge | lua> local test = {1,2,3,4,5}; print(test[2]) |
| 12:17.28 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 2 |
| 12:17.31 | Orionshock | s/*/*/ <-- extra / @end |
| 12:17.42 | Tifi | oh |
| 12:17.49 | Tifi | ok thx |
| 12:17.56 | Recluse | ooooh, interesting |
| 12:17.59 | Tifi | b a n a n a |
| 12:18.11 | Tifi | s,a,o, |
| 12:18.16 | Recluse | XD |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r61055 10SickOfClickingDailies/localization-deDE.lua: |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-8 | -fix deDE local to use the right letters. |
| 12:18.41 | Tifi | gvim > purl |
| 12:18.45 | Orionshock | ... gg that took a long tine |
| 12:18.55 | sylvanaar_work | nm, the usual places have it |
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| 12:19.16 | Recluse | zomg! does that work to accept prisoner q? :p |
| 12:19.19 | CIA-8 | ow |
| 12:19.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you do NOT hug the CIA-8. |
| 12:19.39 | Orionshock | Recluse: yes, i use it to ninja the quest from alliance all the time |
| 12:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 12:19.55 | sag_ich_nicht | what are you talking about |
| 12:19.56 | Recluse | Orionshock: thank god. i'm always getting jacked |
| 12:20.05 | sag_ich_nicht | can you use MC to accept quests? |
| 12:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | or what |
| 12:20.08 | Orionshock | i don't even see the quest text |
| 12:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 12:20.21 | sag_ich_nicht | tell meeeeee :O |
| 12:20.38 | Orionshock | the addon sag_ich_nicht "SickOfClickingDailies" |
| 12:20.55 | Orionshock | it's one i wrote because i ^^ |
| 12:21.03 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 12:21.04 | Recluse | now just need a spammable "target prisoner & talk" macro XD |
| 12:21.10 | sb_ | "Pending" sucks! giev PTR char, now! |
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| 12:21.22 | Orionshock | Recluse: no need, just waltz up and right click |
| 12:21.33 | Orionshock | ZOMG it starts automagicaly |
| 12:21.33 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what she said! |
| 12:21.55 | Recluse | Orionshock: one of the problems i have is clicking between the bamboo cage graphic T_T so small |
| 12:22.03 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: wtf? |
| 12:22.29 | Recluse | lol it's like not very click-throughable - the cage |
| 12:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: i suggest you press ctrl + V |
| 12:22.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and rightclick the nameplate |
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| 12:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | also yes it is recluse, you can click through it no problem at all |
| 12:22.55 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 12:22.55 | Recluse | are you serious? you can rclick the healthbar? D= |
| 12:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you must be having some bug |
| 12:23.01 | Orionshock | kodos on shat FP |
| 12:23.01 | sag_ich_nicht | yes Recluse |
| 12:23.07 | Recluse | i'll be damned |
| 12:23.22 | sag_ich_nicht | which is also why i am angry about the fact that blizzard is putting the battlemasters on platforms |
| 12:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | there is NO need at all |
| 12:23.28 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 12:23.29 | purl | 2008.02.12 12:23:29 GMT, or the fourth dimension |
| 12:23.41 | Orionshock | funniest thing to do is to mount up on a kodo as a tauren and stand on teh shat flight master |
| 12:23.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just a noob filter for idiots who don't know about the fact that you can't rightclick the nameplate |
| 12:24.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *that you can rightlick |
| 12:24.17 | vithos | nameplates are annoying in crowds, they constantly reorder when one person is moving |
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| 12:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | vithos: lern2Aloft |
| 12:24.47 | Orionshock | aloft makes the problem 10x worse |
| 12:24.50 | vithos | i use aloft, that doesn't stop them from jumbling about. |
| 12:25.09 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.15 | Recluse | lol |
| 12:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock what. |
| 12:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | the nameplates from Aloft are smaller. |
| 12:25.56 | Tifi | does aloft still scan all child frames of the worldframe in an onupdate handler? |
| 12:26.04 | Valoran | sag_ich_nicht; they're bigger or smaller :p |
| 12:26.06 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:26.13 | clad|office | Tifi: considering thats the only way to accomplish what it does, I'd assume so. |
| 12:26.34 | [Ammo] | Tifi: it's a throttled onupdate so it's not bad |
| 12:26.55 | Orionshock | anyone know if that applys to chat bubbles too? |
| 12:27.29 | clad|office | Orionshock: i believe so, actually but I'm not sure |
| 12:28.38 | Orionshock | btw Recluse the one thing that the addon won't do is accept the escort quest if someone else starts it... just don't care enough to code that in... |
| 12:28.55 | Recluse | yeah, that's a nonissue imo |
| 12:29.34 | Orionshock | but it'll do just about everything else. as long as quest rewards stick to 2 per quest, i'll be fine |
| 12:29.50 | Orionshock | other wise i'll have to rewrite some parts of it -.- |
| 12:30.04 | Recluse | it auto picks the potion? :p |
| 12:30.18 | Orionshock | ya & fish or meet |
| 12:32.41 | Recluse | weekly addon cleanup. think i uninstalled about 30 that i tested this week >.> |
| 12:33.39 | ZealotOnAStick | I guess you're neglecting the obvious: turn on nameplates to get the exact name/spelling of the player or npc and then /target nameofplayerornpc? |
| 12:38.20 | Orionshock | lua> f(...) return (...) f("!", "2","3") |
| 12:38.21 | lua_bot | Orionshock: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "f(...) return (...) f("!", "2","3")"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'f' |
| 12:38.29 | Orionshock | lua> f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2","3") |
| 12:38.30 | lua_bot | Orionshock: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2","3")"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 12:38.42 | Orionshock | lua> function f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2","3") |
| 12:38.42 | lua_bot | Orionshock: |
| 12:38.46 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 12:39.31 | JoshBorke | function f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2","3")() |
| 12:39.39 | JoshBorke | lua> function f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2","3")() |
| 12:39.40 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: [string "function f(...) return (...) end f("!", "2..."]:1: attempt to call a string value |
| 12:39.46 | JoshBorke | lua> function f(...) return (...) end print(f("!", "2","3")) |
| 12:39.46 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: ! |
| 12:39.59 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:40.09 | Recluse | lol |
| 12:40.12 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: why are you doing function f(...) return (...) end and not function f(...) return ... end? |
| 12:40.22 | JoshBorke | by wrapping ... in () you cut off the rest |
| 12:40.32 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: that was the idea |
| 12:40.39 | Orionshock | just want the first arg |
| 12:40.48 | Tifi | o.o |
| 12:41.06 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: i still don't understand |
| 12:41.24 | Tifi | lua> function f(first) return first end print(f("!", "2","3")) |
| 12:41.25 | lua_bot | Tifi: ! |
| 12:41.29 | JoshBorke | why does the number of results matter? |
| 12:41.31 | Orionshock | because aceSerilizer for some god awful reason returns true/false as the first arg instad of nil |
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| 12:42.14 | JoshBorke | so you can know whether it successfully serialized it or not? |
| 12:42.37 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 12:42.52 | Orionshock | ya.. well it annoys me because i have to parse it out in my comms handler |
| 12:43.16 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/82083 |
| 12:43.18 | Orionshock | see |
| 12:43.19 | JoshBorke | local _, serialized = Ace-Serializer:Serialize() |
| 12:43.45 | Orionshock | well, the serilzer dosn't do that but the deserilizer does |
| 12:44.20 | Orionshock | Poul|Raider: some one did iirc, it was on EJ |
| 12:44.22 | Orionshock | Poul|Raider: some one did iirc, it was on EJ's forums |
| 12:44.33 | Poul|Raider | it was just 32kb log |
| 12:44.43 | Orionshock | meh |
| 12:44.50 | Poul|Raider | would like a raid with a few wipes and such |
| 12:44.51 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: so you just want to assume that your data makes it through the serializer successfully every time? |
| 12:45.00 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: what about someone being DC'd in the middle of sending a serialized message? |
| 12:45.14 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: ace comm figures that one out iirc |
| 12:46.28 | JoshBorke | then just do "local fuckYouResult, <stuff> = serializer:Deserialize(message)" and call it a day |
| 12:46.32 | JoshBorke | it'll be faster than a function |
| 12:47.18 | Orionshock | meh, it's bad practice imo |
| 12:47.59 | JoshBorke | http://ace.pastey.net/82084 |
| 12:48.02 | JoshBorke | use that then |
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| 12:48.53 | Orionshock | that is alot better... |
| 12:49.17 | JoshBorke | and you can still check forc ommand |
| 12:49.57 | Orionshock | na, if the result didn't come back then i don't care and return |
| 12:50.01 | Xinhuan | umm |
| 12:50.06 | Xinhuan | why can't you do select(2, ...) |
| 12:50.12 | Xinhuan | instead of that round about way |
| 12:50.19 | Killmore2 | I have a transcriptor from kalecgos of yesterday, where I send it ? |
| 12:51.05 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: /fewer function calls the faster it executes?/ |
| 12:51.22 | Xinhuan | i don't see any fewer function calls? |
| 12:51.43 | Orionshock | got rid of 2 select() calls |
| 12:52.10 | Orionshock | :D |
| 12:52.13 | Xinhuan | and introduced a DispatchComms |
| 12:52.22 | Xinhuan | i mean |
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| 12:53.23 | Xinhuan | yeah, JoshBorke's method is clean |
| 12:53.29 | Xinhuan | i didn't see that one |
| 12:53.38 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 12:54.02 | Xinhuan | however, i don't agree with |
| 12:54.06 | Xinhuan | if not (...) then return end |
| 12:54.18 | JoshBorke | take it up with orion |
| 12:54.18 | Xinhuan | because that specifically checks if the first arg is nil or false |
| 12:54.21 | JoshBorke | i just left it there |
| 12:54.32 | Orionshock | ya, i changed that to use the variable |
| 12:55.06 | Xinhuan | and youre going to dispatch that arg anyway, it could happen you are sending multiple args and the first one is nil |
| 12:55.11 | Xinhuan | and then your dispatch will fail |
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| 12:55.54 | Orionshock | well if the deserilize fails then i don't want it to dispatch |
| 12:56.23 | JoshBorke | he means the first vararg in ... |
| 12:56.35 | Orionshock | ...ya... |
| 12:56.38 | JoshBorke | he means you get something like: sender, result, command, nil, true, 5, 6 |
| 12:56.51 | JoshBorke | if not (...) then return end would catch the nil and dump out |
| 12:56.58 | JoshBorke | instead of properly passing the args on |
| 12:57.01 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/82085 |
| 12:57.15 | Orionshock | switched it arround to use the proper variable |
| 12:57.52 | Orionshock | kinda have to :P |
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| 12:58.50 | Xinhuan | heh |
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| 13:00.31 | syeren | Who codes HealComm here ;p? |
| 13:00.36 | syeren | I've found a problem with it ;p |
| 13:03.43 | Orionshock | i sense that comm addons will use something very similar to that code wrt Ace3 |
| 13:04.14 | Gngsk | i sense a great disturbance in the force |
| 13:05.05 | Orionshock | Gngsk: turn /Rock/ over and you'll find it, we call it the "Dark Side" |
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| 13:07.14 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: check out the oRA3 comms |
| 13:07.21 | [Ammo] | that one works pretty well :) |
| 13:08.09 | Orionshock | well, that is the other method i see happening, tho i think the use of CBH is ... asinine :D |
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| 13:11.07 | Josh_Borke | don't look at ora3, it's dumb |
| 13:15.51 | sag_ich_nicht | so hows the new combatlog doing in practice? :OO |
| 13:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *:O |
| 13:16.23 | Tuller | poop |
| 13:16.27 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 13:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't habeeb it |
| 13:16.50 | Tuller | as in it looks nice, but I've not really used it |
| 13:18.11 | FtH|Daemona | hey Xinhuan upgrading from cartographer routes to standalone routes is as simple as removing the first and getting the second? |
| 13:19.05 | Xinhuan | correct |
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| 13:19.19 | Xinhuan | they are 2 completely different addons |
| 13:19.55 | Xinhuan | kind of like, yeah you can run xperl and pitbull at the same time, but analogous to deleting xperl and then installing pitbull |
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| 13:22.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis i t8ink ur 5i6n4tur 15 0v3rki11 |
| 13:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | w8 i c4n d0 d47 b3773r |
| 13:23.26 | Xinhuan | fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:23.30 | Xinhuan | i can be written as 1 |
| 13:23.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis i 78ink ur 5i6n47ur 15 0v3rki11 |
| 13:24.22 | sag_ich_nicht | n0 I |5 4 p|p3 bu7 |'m t00 14zy |
| 13:24.58 | sag_ich_nicht | |m flu3n7 |n 1337 u ph001 |
| 13:25.37 | thul | weridness ftw. |
| 13:25.45 | thul | weird, |
| 13:25.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ur m0m |
| 13:26.17 | thul | When the american army calibrated the GPS-system, they used lars monsen |
| 13:26.18 | thul | :-P |
| 13:26.50 | Xinhuan | i just had a random weird thought |
| 13:26.51 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: just because you don't understand how callbackhandler works doesn't mean I'm using it incorrect. In fact this is one of the situations where it's used perfectly fine |
| 13:26.59 | [Ammo] | hmm he left |
| 13:27.00 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 13:27.02 | [Ammo] | retard |
| 13:27.31 | Josh_Borke | that's not very nice |
| 13:27.40 | Xinhuan | imagine the day when transistors have more than 2 states (on/off), and our computers all start to be running on ternary instead of binary ;p |
| 13:27.42 | [Ammo] | I am nota nice person |
| 13:27.48 | thul | "nota" |
| 13:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] your code is horrible and you should be stabbed for it |
| 13:27.50 | thul | hahahahahahahaha |
| 13:27.52 | thul | YOU STUPID |
| 13:27.54 | kenlyric | Josh_Borke, meet ammo |
| 13:28.13 | thul | one time, chuck norris met lars monsen in the woods, Lars yelled so loud that chuck got red hair and freckles. |
| 13:28.36 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:27] <Xinhuan> imagine the day when transistors have more than 2 states (on/off), and our computers all start to be running on ternary instead of binary ;p <--i'd rather have them have e states, but 3 is the closest approach to that, so do want. >.> |
| 13:28.38 | kenlyric | stop making up people. |
| 13:28.46 | thul | http://www.megamads.net/larsmonsen/ <- Pkekyo| |
| 13:28.48 | thul | kenlyric: lars monsen rocks |
| 13:28.50 | thul | simple as that |
| 13:28.57 | kenlyric | stop making up people |
| 13:29.00 | Xinhuan | well technically transistors already have 3 states - high voltage, low voltage and Off |
| 13:29.08 | Xinhuan | just that "off" doesn't do much |
| 13:29.13 | Xinhuan | and doesn't really count as a state |
| 13:29.26 | thul | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Monsen |
| 13:29.28 | thul | lars monsen ftw. |
| 13:29.34 | nevcairiel | there is alot of tristate in digital processing |
| 13:29.37 | thul | lars monsen > * |
| 13:29.46 | Xinhuan | yeah but i'm imagining when it becomes mainstream |
| 13:29.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: there have already been made calculations what the "best" number of states would be for the purpose of logical circuits |
| 13:30.01 | Xinhuan | and we'll all have to be thinking in 3s hehe |
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| 13:30.17 | thul | the answer is: 42 |
| 13:30.19 | Xinhuan | "best" doesn't mean "practical" though |
| 13:30.26 | thul | 42 states |
| 13:30.26 | Pkekyo| | thul: OOOOOOOOOODL |
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| 13:30.33 | sag_ich_nicht | the conclusion has been that e would be ideal, but of course you can't really use e since it's irrational, so you go with 3. |
| 13:30.36 | thul | 41^1, 42^2, 42^3 etc |
| 13:30.52 | Xinhuan | so USA has 50 states, so it is too efficient |
| 13:30.55 | Xinhuan | by 9 states |
| 13:30.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i had an article about it somewhere but i can't find it |
| 13:30.59 | Xinhuan | OK i made a bad joke |
| 13:31.02 | thul | on, on+1, on+2, on+3...,on+42 |
| 13:31.06 | thul | Xinhuan: VERY BAD BOY |
| 13:31.08 | thul | now go die. |
| 13:31.30 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 13:31.40 | Pkekyo| | whom's bed did you wake up in today thul? :p |
| 13:31.58 | Recluse | 42 eh? |
| 13:31.59 | thul | hmm, my own? with my very own model girlfriend? ;-P |
| 13:32.36 | Pkekyo| | meant as 'stå opp på feil side av senga' ---> 'stå opp fra feil seng' |
| 13:32.51 | thul | haha |
| 13:32.51 | sag_ich_nicht | from the undocumented OMBAT_LOG_EVENT arguments thing: |
| 13:32.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (on the forum): |
| 13:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | environmentalType |
| 13:32.59 | sag_ich_nicht | "FALLING", "FIRE" (more possible but currently unconfirmed) |
| 13:33.10 | Chompers | model girlfriend? is she 1:1 scale or? |
| 13:33.12 | Pkekyo| | thul: that's taking grumpy in the morning to a new level :p |
| 13:33.15 | sag_ich_nicht | there will probably be drowning and fatigue too |
| 13:33.21 | Pkekyo| | Chompers: 1:27,4 |
| 13:33.40 | thul | haha |
| 13:33.45 | thul | Chompers: yup |
| 13:33.51 | thul | 1:1.00000007 |
| 13:33.53 | thul | to be accurate. |
| 13:34.03 | thul | Pkekyo|: I AM NOT GRUMPY, NO GO DIE |
| 13:34.04 | thul | :-P |
| 13:34.07 | Chompers | like them a little larger huh |
| 13:34.08 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 13:34.12 | thul | haha |
| 13:34.14 | Recluse | that reminds me - why do mso many use commas instead of decimals when working w/numbers? is that a euro thing or what? |
| 13:34.18 | thul | well, she is like 178cm tal |
| 13:34.19 | thul | tall |
| 13:34.23 | Pkekyo| | Recluse: because YOUR FACE |
| 13:34.41 | Recluse | XD |
| 13:34.51 | Pkekyo| | females that's taller than 170cm exists? hot shit, thought they were just a myth |
| 13:34.54 | thul | yes, european thing. |
| 13:35.00 | thul | Pkekyo|: 178 AND 54kg :-P |
| 13:35.10 | Xinhuan | some genious thought that commas are more visable than dots |
| 13:35.15 | thul | but I'm due for an interview |
| 13:35.16 | Xinhuan | visible* |
| 13:35.25 | Pkekyo| | I've never had a girl taller than 168 or so, and immense back pains due to it :p |
| 13:35.26 | thul | so, fuck yourselves, I'll be back. |
| 13:35.28 | Pkekyo| | gl hf thul |
| 13:35.32 | Recluse | hmm |
| 13:35.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: that's because the sign refer to is a dot, not a decimal, the decimal is the TYPE that the sign is used for. |
| 13:35.47 | Kivin | The fresh use commas instead of decimals. Assholes. Looks retarded, too. |
| 13:35.50 | Kivin | french* |
| 13:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | you're confusing the content of a variable with the variable itself! |
| 13:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Recluse |
| 13:36.03 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Recluse |
| 13:36.12 | Recluse | lol |
| 13:36.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Kivin |
| 13:36.22 | purl | chops Kivin in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 13:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you're doing it as well Kivin, stop it |
| 13:36.34 | sag_ich_nicht | these are periods or dots |
| 13:36.42 | Kivin | o.o |
| 13:36.43 | sag_ich_nicht | NOT decimals. |
| 13:36.51 | Fisker- | oh u Pkekyo| |
| 13:36.56 | Kivin | screw you, they're not. decimals. |
| 13:37.02 | sag_ich_nicht | decimal is the TYPE. |
| 13:37.04 | Recluse | i just see the commas a lot is all - reading forums and whatnot. i get confused if they meant to use a decimal or if it was really a comma |
| 13:37.32 | nevcairiel | FATIGUE, DROWNING, FALLING, LAVA, SLIME, FIRE <-- environment dmg :P |
| 13:37.32 | sag_ich_nicht | no look, go to your windows local settings, or your mac local settings, or your damn LINUX local settings. |
| 13:37.43 | Recluse | slime? o.O |
| 13:38.08 | nevcairiel | just taken from the blizzard files |
| 13:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | the decimal is the VARIABLE, the PERIOD or COMMA are the CONTENT of the VARIABLE, jesus christ stop failing D: |
| 13:38.22 | nevcairiel | "$dest loses $amount health for swimming in slime." |
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| 13:38.58 | Recluse | i'm confused at your point, but it's okay lol |
| 13:39.09 | Recluse | ^-sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:39.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Decimal separator |
| 13:39.51 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 13:39.55 | Fisker- | fail |
| 13:40.02 | Fisker- | expert on decimals? |
| 13:40.03 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 13:40.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no pur lwas lagging. |
| 13:40.17 | Fisker- | I'M THE FOREMOST EXPERT ON DECIMALS RAWR |
| 13:40.20 | Recluse | lol |
| 13:40.33 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-oh u Pkekyo| <--- jes? |
| 13:40.39 | sag_ich_nicht | so, in conclusion, i am right, as ALWAYS, and: |
| 13:40.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Recluse & Kivin |
| 13:40.53 | purl | Recluse & Kivin: Fail. |
| 13:41.02 | Kivin | Kiss my ass |
| 13:41.07 | Kivin | It's a decimal, plain and simple. |
| 13:41.12 | Cryect | heh never thought of the decimal as a radix |
| 13:41.45 | Cryect | then again I only normally think of radix in the concept of radix sorting |
| 13:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: you can believe what you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it is scientifically wrong. |
| 13:42.04 | Kivin | qq |
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| 13:43.14 | Cryect | I wouldn't really call that scientifically wrong more like syntax :-p |
| 13:43.22 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I know, it's weird and a inefficient method. |
| 13:43.39 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 13:43.51 | Polarina | nevcairiel: "$dest loses $amount health for swimming in slime." |
| 13:44.08 | Cryect | not inefficient for generating the strings |
| 13:44.15 | Cryect | which was the intention not parsing :-p |
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| 13:45.45 | Recluse | ah, says here the euro peeps use(d) a 'dot' as meaning 'to multiply' and thus used the 'comma' instead |
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| 13:45.55 | Poul|Raider | lol, visual studio got nice deployment features for windows forms. |
| 13:46.13 | Poul|Raider | easy to maintains updates of my parser for public use |
| 13:46.17 | Lothaer | hey does any1 know what the Gatherer IRC details are? |
| 13:46.29 | clad|office | Lothaer: #Norganna |
| 13:46.30 | Recluse | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.31 | clad|office | on this network |
| 13:47.33 | clad|office | Poul|Raider: then you should post on EJ and ask for an extensive log post |
| 13:47.35 | Lothaer | thanks |
| 13:47.42 | clad|office | you're more likely to get it there, than repeating it every 10 minutes here. |
| 13:48.02 | Poul|Raider | :( ye |
| 13:48.02 | sb_ | Poul|Raider: parser? :o |
| 13:48.17 | Poul|Raider | making a parser tool, doing a better wws system! |
| 13:48.25 | sb_ | hm, you need 2.4 or 2.3 logs? |
| 13:48.32 | Poul|Raider | but gotta pick up a friend at the tain. 2.4 logs |
| 13:48.36 | Poul|Raider | back in 30min |
| 13:48.44 | Recluse | does not using a "," instead of "." in code... break things? |
| 13:48.51 | clad|office | Recluse: in lua, yes |
| 13:49.03 | clad|office | beacuse lua in wow is compiled to use the decimal point as the decimal separator |
| 13:49.09 | Kivin | comma separates data on the stack in Lua |
| 13:49.11 | Recluse | ah =3 |
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| 13:49.23 | Kivin | and does table lookups |
| 13:49.28 | Kivin | err decimal* |
| 13:49.34 | sb_ | wtb spirit gems for 2.4 :p |
| 13:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:37] <nevcairiel> FATIGUE, DROWNING, FALLING, LAVA, SLIME, FIRE <-- environment dmg :P <--you should post that in the thread instead of slacking nevcairiel |
| 13:50.50 | FinalX | the mana drink patch kinda sucks btw |
| 13:50.55 | FinalX | in 2.4 :P |
| 13:51.00 | Lothaer | why? |
| 13:51.02 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 13:51.14 | Lothaer | the longer you drink the faster you regen |
| 13:51.17 | sag_ich_nicht | MAGE TEARS ARE POLISH OR MY ARMOR. |
| 13:51.22 | sb_ | mana drink patch? |
| 13:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it's only 6 seconds retards |
| 13:51.24 | FinalX | yeah, but what if you aggro a mob right after sitting down? |
| 13:51.28 | sag_ich_nicht | then it's the same as before |
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| 13:51.53 | sb_ | oh and btw <3 <3 engineering t2 goggles |
| 13:51.55 | FinalX | oom -> drink -> in combat within 6 secs again, with nearly no mana regen done, unlike before 2.4 |
| 13:52.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight STOP DISCONNECTING |
| 13:52.10 | EvilJohn | i hate that change |
| 13:52.14 | FinalX | sb_: they patched mana drinks in 2.4, so that you will generate nearly no mana at the start and loads at the end of the duration. |
| 13:52.18 | sb_ | sucks for arena |
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| 13:52.23 | FinalX | sucks for pve just as well |
| 13:52.24 | EvilJohn | we did our first Hyjal run |
| 13:52.27 | sb_ | hm right |
| 13:52.35 | EvilJohn | there was no way at anytime did I have 6 seconds to drink |
| 13:52.44 | EvilJohn | (past like wave 3) |
| 13:52.46 | sb_ | bring more dps! :p |
| 13:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | bring manapots, you scrub |
| 13:52.57 | FinalX | if you're in an area with fast spawning mobs or get surprised, you have gained like 100 mana right after drinking rather then 1k |
| 13:52.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight_ STOP DISCONNECTING |
| 13:53.11 | FinalX | 1k = dead lvl 71 mob for me, 100 = not even a shield or renew |
| 13:53.11 | Polarina | EvilJohn: That's the purpose of the feedback tool; to gather feedbacks. |
| 13:53.38 | sb_ | are mark of the illidari usable in sunwell 25man? |
| 13:53.39 | EvilJohn | useless |
| 13:53.50 | EvilJohn | we're not doing mount hyjal on the PTR |
| 13:53.57 | Polarina | EvilJohn: No feedback = No changes. |
| 13:54.16 | EvilJohn | Polarina: you mean no feedback = changes. |
| 13:54.40 | Polarina | EvilJohn: A change to the feedback tool possibly because Blizzard would think it's broken. |
| 13:54.43 | EvilJohn | I can copy a character to the PTR, and see how badly it sucks and enter that into the feedback |
| 13:54.55 | sb_ | well, try to copy then :p |
| 13:55.00 | EvilJohn | but I won't have anything to base it on really |
| 13:55.17 | EvilJohn | when we do hyjal on friday I'm going to count my drink times |
| 13:55.28 | keiss | sb_: ic they resseted the copy count for EU ... |
| 13:55.29 | EvilJohn | a mod that did that would be very interesting |
| 13:55.40 | sb_ | i know keiss, copied this morning |
| 13:55.46 | keiss | grrr |
| 13:55.46 | sb_ | still pending... |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | powerType: |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | -2 = health |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 0 = mana |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 = rage |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 2 = focus |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 3 = energy |
| 13:55.56 | EvilJohn | I can't believe that they really think wouldn't affect PVE |
| 13:56.02 | keiss | the queue is full now :/ |
| 13:56.02 | sag_ich_nicht | -1 is probably the deathknight thing |
| 13:56.22 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: 4 = runes |
| 13:56.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay |
| 13:56.57 | sag_ich_nicht | so what's -1? blizzard's nil? |
| 13:57.12 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: -1 is for no power type (NPCs). |
| 13:57.15 | Kivin | is GetRealmName() and UnitName("player") available as soon as the script executes, or do you have to wait for vars loaded or pew or something? |
| 13:57.46 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:57.49 | Kivin | thanks |
| 13:58.37 | Xinhuan | ~wdn |
| 13:58.38 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 13:58.40 | sb_ | hmm with 2.4 and ~500 int, 1 spi ~ 1mp5 (outside fsr) |
| 13:58.55 | sb_ | errr |
| 13:58.57 | sb_ | nvm |
| 13:58.57 | keiss | sb_: its not linear |
| 13:59.03 | sb_ | wrong textbox :p |
| 13:59.33 | sb_ | okay, its even more than 1mp5 |
| 14:02.16 | Maldivia | isnt the formula something like x * spr * sqrt(int) = mp5 |
| 14:02.38 | keiss | * lvl_coeff |
| 14:02.55 | keiss | but yeah @500int it amounts to 1.042mp5 per spi point at lvl 70 |
| 14:03.01 | sb_ | 0.009327 * 5 * sqrt(int) * spirit |
| 14:03.32 | Maldivia | keiss: level and class is no longer a part of the formula, as far as I know, only int and spr |
| 14:03.33 | FinalX | ...yay, so totally useless to my spriest :p |
| 14:03.51 | keiss | Maldivia: it is because the 0.008327 coeeficient yu see there is level dependent |
| 14:04.11 | keiss | Maldivia: but yeah ... class-dependency is gone according to that |
| 14:04.25 | Maldivia | I though it was fixed, and just used the int a as "level-indicator" |
| 14:05.19 | keiss | [69] = 0.009445, |
| 14:05.26 | keiss | [70] = 0.009327, |
| 14:05.28 | keiss | etc... |
| 14:05.50 | sb_ | mhh 1,042 - this is (10.5 / 3.1) for 10 spirit gem vs. (4 / 4) with 4 mp5 gem |
| 14:05.58 | sb_ | nice :) |
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| 14:12.27 | TNSe | ya |
| 14:12.33 | TNSe | it is nice |
| 14:12.45 | TNSe | add on that you get spell damage from imp. ds |
| 14:12.50 | TNSe | 10 spirit = 1 spell as well |
| 14:12.54 | sb_ | yup |
| 14:13.01 | TNSe | even more if you are holy priest with proper spec |
| 14:13.11 | TNSe | and then scale it with kings |
| 14:13.17 | sb_ | just finished illidan movie and stage 6 upload is closed *sigh* |
| 14:13.21 | sb_ | yep |
| 14:13.26 | TNSe | 10 spirit = 3.41 mp5 FSR and 3.85 +heal |
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| 14:13.41 | TNSe | even more |
| 14:13.49 | TNSe | since you got human bonus, you got spirit of redemption |
| 14:13.58 | sb_ | whats human? :P |
| 14:14.02 | TNSe | 5% bonus spirit |
| 14:14.04 | keiss | <- not a human :D |
| 14:15.14 | TNSe | \- fail |
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| 14:15.26 | keiss | i like my SoH/GotW ;) |
| 14:15.48 | TNSe | troll priests are the shit in 2.4 tho |
| 14:15.52 | TNSe | and probably in WotLK |
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| 14:15.57 | kadrahil | :( |
| 14:15.59 | kenlyric | human bonus is 10% people |
| 14:16.07 | kenlyric | welcome to 2.0.1 :) |
| 14:16.09 | TNSe | zerking, -80% heal |
| 14:16.12 | kadrahil | kenlyric: lol |
| 14:16.13 | sb_ | SoH? |
| 14:16.19 | kadrahil | i rerolled a human priest |
| 14:16.22 | keiss | Symbol oh Hope |
| 14:16.24 | keiss | of |
| 14:16.24 | kenlyric | me too |
| 14:16.27 | kadrahil | from a blood elf hunter main that i've played for over a year |
| 14:16.34 | TNSe | heh |
| 14:16.41 | sb_ | mh, <3 my WotF ;) |
| 14:16.41 | TNSe | its 10%? |
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| 14:16.43 | TNSe | holy shit |
| 14:16.44 | kenlyric | I rerolled human priest from my banned night elf priest before TBC. |
| 14:16.49 | TNSe | disc priests are gonna be insane in 2.4 |
| 14:16.53 | TNSe | human disc priests |
| 14:16.58 | kadrahil | how so? |
| 14:17.00 | sb_ | why disc? |
| 14:17.01 | TNSe | 5% bonus int/sta/spi, 10% |
| 14:17.09 | sb_ | 41 holy > disc (pve) |
| 14:17.10 | kenlyric | SoH is 5000 mana every five minutes, Human Spirit given a t4 geared priest is about 1300 mana every five minutes |
| 14:17.19 | kadrahil | sb_: yeah, disc for pvp |
| 14:17.29 | TNSe | sb_, at the momemt, but in WotLK they promised to fix disc :P |
| 14:17.38 | kadrahil | sb_: sadly i don't hear of any shadow priests in pvp anymore really :( |
| 14:17.48 | TNSe | human disc priests are prolly gonna be fun then |
| 14:17.50 | kenlyric | but, if you don't care about your party, SoH is only 1000 mana every five minutes to you |
| 14:17.53 | TNSe | spriest pvp is dead P: |
| 14:18.18 | kadrahil | well there's rogue spriest 2v2 combos |
| 14:18.31 | kadrahil | but for 3s' and 5's i only see 41 disc/20 holy |
| 14:18.33 | kenlyric | I don't even want to think about the math with the new int/spirit changes |
| 14:18.43 | TNSe | why not? |
| 14:18.46 | TNSe | its even easier now |
| 14:18.55 | TNSe | before int was more or less ignored except for fast fights |
| 14:18.58 | kenlyric | because there's an extra variable in there. |
| 14:19.00 | TNSe | now you just want averaged out gear |
| 14:19.08 | TNSe | and you can more or less toss mp5 entirely |
| 14:19.16 | kenlyric | the math for comparing regen against Symbol of Hope |
| 14:19.17 | TNSe | because the extra int and extra mana regen from more int is > mp5 |
| 14:19.31 | TNSe | so you dont need to think about mp5 anymore |
| 14:19.34 | TNSe | just stack int/spi |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r61056 10Whats/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | Whats : 0.45 |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | - add favorite item list function |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | - change some function |
| 14:19.42 | keiss | now if only blizzard put more spirit instead of haste on priest gear .. |
| 14:19.45 | kenlyric | you don't ever stack int |
| 14:19.46 | TNSe | before you had to weigh mp5 vs int |
| 14:19.47 | sb_ | heal/spi/int ;) |
| 14:19.51 | kenlyric | no cloth wearer ever needs to stack int |
| 14:20.04 | TNSe | no |
| 14:20.06 | TNSe | you dont need to |
| 14:20.12 | TNSe | but blizzard stacks int on cloth |
| 14:20.14 | kenlyric | spirit whores unite! |
| 14:20.14 | TNSe | all the time >_< |
| 14:20.20 | TNSe | so you get a shitload |
| 14:20.22 | kadrahil | i know a guy that stacked all 9heal/4mp5 gems |
| 14:20.25 | kadrahil | whatever those purple ones are |
| 14:20.27 | kenlyric | 9h/2mp5 gem is still best for rare quality gems |
| 14:20.32 | kadrahil | he has like 1900 healing and 340 mp5 |
| 14:20.36 | TNSe | I dunno |
| 14:20.43 | kadrahil | he's an insane healer too |
| 14:20.43 | kenlyric | because of the rounding error |
| 14:20.44 | TNSe | 9h/3 spirit seems strong now |
| 14:20.56 | kenlyric | it's 9h/4 spirit |
| 14:21.01 | TNSe | gives the additional bonus healing too |
| 14:21.06 | sb_ | and we need epic epic+spirit gems :/ |
| 14:21.07 | TNSe | and mana regen ain't gonna be problem in 2.4 |
| 14:21.09 | syeren | Hmm, I require assistance! |
| 14:21.09 | sb_ | (craftable) |
| 14:21.10 | syeren | http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7167/wowscrnshot021208141844iy6.jpg |
| 14:21.15 | syeren | How would I re-size the icon in the LUA? |
| 14:21.16 | krka | syeren: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 14:21.18 | syeren | *lua |
| 14:21.20 | syeren | Faggot. |
| 14:21.30 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:21.33 | Josh_Borke | never seen that reaction before |
| 14:21.37 | kenlyric | damn, thought it was a bot |
| 14:21.41 | sb_ | *testing* LUA |
| 14:21.41 | Josh_Borke | it is |
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| 14:21.44 | Josh_Borke | it's on a timer |
| 14:21.47 | sb_ | ah :) |
| 14:21.57 | kenlyric | ripe for abuse |
| 14:22.08 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: hi |
| 14:22.23 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: hi |
| 14:22.25 | syeren | The Icon is huge, has to be someway to scale it down >_< |
| 14:22.31 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: i switched guilds to Taco Bell Crew |
| 14:22.37 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: haha |
| 14:22.40 | sb_ | okay, time to get my brooch of nature's mercy, 19 spirit > 7 mp5 |
| 14:22.41 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: still playing on SR? |
| 14:23.31 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: yea |
| 14:23.35 | sb_ | and "Shroud of Forgiveness" > Final Stand *sigh* |
| 14:23.44 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: i levelled my alliance priest to 65, i'm working on getting my enchanting up to 300 |
| 14:23.51 | Josh_Borke | geebus |
| 14:23.52 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
| 14:23.53 | kadrahil | and going broke in the process |
| 14:23.59 | keiss | sb_: bloodboil cloak ftw ? |
| 14:24.02 | Josh_Borke | are you having fun? |
| 14:24.05 | sb_ | keiss: yes... |
| 14:24.11 | kadrahil | i can't afford the last 5 illusion dust i need to craft my runed arcanite rod |
| 14:24.12 | kenlyric | is the int->regen math up somewhere? |
| 14:24.15 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: yeah it's fun for a change |
| 14:24.21 | sb_ | kenlyric: somewhere on EJ |
| 14:24.24 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: that's what is important |
| 14:24.28 | Josh_Borke | kadrahil: lol, can't afford 5 illusion dust |
| 14:24.30 | Josh_Borke | that's funny |
| 14:24.30 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: i've been in some pretty crappy pugs so far though, last night was the first really good one |
| 14:24.35 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: yeah i have 7g left :S |
| 14:24.42 | Josh_Borke | pugs will be hit and miss |
| 14:24.42 | kadrahil | dropped over 300g on crap |
| 14:24.52 | Josh_Borke | meh, keep rested and you'll make it all back at 70 |
| 14:24.56 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: yeah heh |
| 14:24.58 | keiss | kenlyric: spi * 0.009327 * int^0.5 * 5 (or see StatLogcLib for details) |
| 14:25.19 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: well this rogue claimed his sap was parried in our group last night |
| 14:25.23 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 14:25.23 | kenlyric | that's missing some parenthesis to make sense :) |
| 14:25.39 | keiss | it isnt |
| 14:25.44 | kenlyric | but, I got the post |
| 14:25.47 | Josh_Borke | you can parry sap o.O |
| 14:25.52 | Josh_Borke | doesn't you have to sap from behind? |
| 14:26.02 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: you can? a few people told me it isn't possible |
| 14:26.08 | syeren | Where's that lazy chexsum :o? |
| 14:26.16 | Josh_Borke | i didn't think it was possible, i have no idea |
| 14:27.38 | Pkekyo| | hmm, should I farm the BGs at lvl 69, or just level to 70 and go pvp then? |
| 14:27.43 | kadrahil | !c us korgath teni |
| 14:27.46 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: Teni, Level 65 Human Priest (14/0/42). 4215 HP; 6563 Mana; 183 mana regen; 63 mp5; 160 spell crit; 22 spell hit; 363 +spell dmg/heal; 4.81% dodge;[[ TBR: 646 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywg5x5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rps54 ][ Updated: Tue Feb 12 09:36:49 2008 EST ]] |
| 14:27.50 | kadrahil | Josh_Borke: ^ |
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| 14:28.16 | Recluse | there a function that mimicks a /who <name>? |
| 14:28.25 | nevcairiel | SendWho iirc |
| 14:28.27 | kadrahil | can't wait for my FSW set |
| 14:28.28 | Kivin | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__newindex = function(self, key) print(format("newindex:%s", tostring(key)))}); t[nil] = 0 |
| 14:28.29 | lua_bot | Kivin: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "t = setmetatable({}, {__newindex = function(self, key) print(fo..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '}' |
| 14:28.39 | Kivin | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__newindex = function(self, key) print(format("newindex:%s", tostring(key))}); t[nil] = 0 |
| 14:28.40 | lua_bot | Kivin: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "t = setmetatable({}, {__newindex = function(self, key) print(fo..."]:1: ')' expected near '}' |
| 14:28.51 | Polarina | "The following is your login information for the ACE SVN. At this point you will have already read the wiki page at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules. This email is a reminder of some of the details of that information." |
| 14:28.52 | Kivin | bah, i wants my wowlua console |
| 14:29.23 | sb_ | and i want stage6 upload enabled! :/ |
| 14:29.39 | Bibi | so huh, I've got a question my interface-addicted-friends |
| 14:30.01 | Recluse | nevcairiel: ah, that's it, ty |
| 14:30.04 | Bibi | is it possible to shift click items used as a cost for another item at a NPC ? (yeah that's not clear) |
| 14:30.16 | *** join/#wowace Uhuru (n=grut@90.14.77.161) |
| 14:30.18 | Bibi | like, shift clicking the token just below the tier 6 part when you buy it |
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| 14:30.31 | nevcairiel | to link it? |
| 14:30.57 | Bibi | yeah |
| 14:31.03 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/token.jpg (screenshots are better I guess) |
| 14:31.17 | Uhuru | hi, someone know an add on like cryolisis2 but bugfree ? |
| 14:31.17 | nevcairiel | probably would work, somehow |
| 14:31.21 | nevcairiel | default ui doesnt do it, tho |
| 14:31.28 | Kivin | It could be done, even if the default ui doesn't support it |
| 14:31.40 | Bibi | well the default UI doesn't support it, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be asking :p |
| 14:32.05 | Recluse | possible, yes :) |
| 14:32.29 | Bibi | easy in a fast and easy way ? otherwise I'll just do my lists by hand it will be much faster |
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| 14:33.12 | clad|office | Kivin: what doesn't wowlua do for you? |
| 14:33.22 | Kivin | figure out what frames those are, make sure they're :EnableMouse(true), and hook their OnClick handlers |
| 14:33.33 | Kivin | clad|office: Work during downtime |
| 14:33.38 | clad|office | Kivin: =( |
| 14:33.45 | clad|office | the new version of wowlua is pretty swish :P~ |
| 14:33.54 | Kivin | i haven't updated it in ... a long time |
| 14:33.57 | Kivin | like, ever. |
| 14:34.02 | clad|office | it hasn't been released :P |
| 14:34.05 | clad|office | cause its not finished |
| 14:34.39 | kadrahil | Bibi: tier 6 belt tokens? |
| 14:34.41 | kadrahil | Bibi: wut? |
| 14:35.12 | keiss | kadrahil: welcome to 2.4 :) |
| 14:35.17 | Kivin | sunmote... heh. wts Primal Suns. |
| 14:35.18 | kadrahil | what did i miss |
| 14:35.57 | Ozguli | kadrahil they added new pieces to allow people to use tailoring/badge stuff without losing set bonuses |
| 14:36.05 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 14:36.21 | Bibi | welcome a week ago ! |
| 14:36.22 | Kivin | that's good of them |
| 14:36.27 | Josh_Borke | kivin: it hasn't been finished because clad won't set up a place to work on it |
| 14:36.30 | Bibi | want some stupid screenshot I didn't post yet ? |
| 14:36.32 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/apolyon.jpg |
| 14:36.36 | Bibi | now that's some exclusivity ! |
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| 14:36.51 | Kivin | i remember tucking my epics in the bank back in my l60 days because i didn't want to give up my blues' set bonuses |
| 14:37.25 | kadrahil | Bibi: that's hot |
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| 14:39.41 | kadrahil | wow @ the deathfrost enchant |
| 14:39.47 | keiss | for GetNumTalents() to work on others , do yu have to be inspecting them , or is targeting them enough ? |
| 14:40.31 | kenlyric | change gives me an extra 31 mp5 ooc. guess not shabby |
| 14:40.49 | CIA-8 | 03aentila 07Aentila * r61057 10Incubator/integration-1/: |
| 14:40.49 | CIA-8 | Incubator: Makin' copies, so maybe I can finally get some work done here.. |
| 14:40.49 | CIA-8 | without breaking the trunk, even. |
| 14:43.28 | chexsum | does anyone know a click cast mod that works with ptr ? |
| 14:43.35 | Grum | clique doenst work? |
| 14:43.40 | chexsum | no |
| 14:44.04 | [Ammo] | I have no doubt clique will be fixed soon |
| 14:44.53 | kenlyric | at 80% in 5sr at my int 600 int and 500 spirit, 4 spirit gives 2.01 mp5 |
| 14:45.19 | kenlyric | gem monopoly *crushed* |
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| 14:46.51 | Grum | kenlyric: how do you mean? |
| 14:46.58 | kenlyric | if my math is right, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32836 might become quite popular |
| 14:47.00 | Grum | 9h2mp5 gems not the best anymore? |
| 14:47.06 | kenlyric | I don't think so |
| 14:47.33 | Grum | [13:07:47] <Grum> http://elitistjerks.com/634066-post56.html and http://elitistjerks.com/635940-post114.html |
| 14:47.37 | Grum | [13:07:56] <Grum> first is the table, second the formula |
| 14:47.42 | kenlyric | at my int/spirit (481/450) it's 1.8mp5 |
| 14:48.02 | Grum | how did you calculate the FSR with it? |
| 14:48.16 | kenlyric | estimated 80% inside 5sr |
| 14:48.29 | Grum | so 80% for 30% of the regen and 20% for 100% ? |
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| 14:48.34 | kenlyric | yes |
| 14:48.50 | Grum | i'm touching 400mp5 raidbuffed |
| 14:48.51 | Grum | while casting |
| 14:48.55 | Grum | its .. silly |
| 14:49.13 | Grum | i think the 10spi gems also might be useful now |
| 14:49.29 | kadrahil | aw |
| 14:49.34 | kadrahil | wowequip can't scan items on the ptr |
| 14:49.36 | kadrahil | :( |
| 14:49.42 | Grum | why not? |
| 14:49.43 | Xinhuan | why not? |
| 14:49.51 | kadrahil | either that or it's taking a really long time |
| 14:49.56 | Grum | it takes a long time |
| 14:49.58 | Xinhuan | 1 per 10 secs |
| 14:50.00 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
| 14:50.01 | Grum | it can have 1 fail every 10 seconds else you die |
| 14:50.02 | kadrahil | ah wow |
| 14:50.09 | Xinhuan | any faster and you risk d/c |
| 14:50.12 | Ozguli | Grum now calculate what's the highest rank heal you can cast 15 minutes without having to stop |
| 14:50.22 | kadrahil | Last queried ID: 7 |
| 14:50.24 | kadrahil | :O |
| 14:50.35 | Xinhuan | i don't think you want to start from 1 |
| 14:50.42 | kadrahil | where should it start |
| 14:50.46 | Grum | Ozguli: mm then i just need to calculate the amount of mana |
| 14:50.51 | _rane | how can i reset gnomorespam's word black list? |
| 14:50.52 | Xinhuan | IDs 1-100 are like elwynn forest |
| 14:50.54 | Grum | that is 400mp5 - that is 80mps |
| 14:50.57 | kadrahil | oh haha |
| 14:50.59 | Xinhuan | 100-200 is like Westfall |
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| 14:51.13 | Xinhuan | and every 100 ID chunk is like only 30 IDs are used |
| 14:51.24 | Grum | so a 120mana 1.5s spell or a 200 mana 2.5s spell |
| 14:51.25 | Xinhuan | black temple loot is like 34100-34300 |
| 14:52.29 | Xinhuan | in all, from 1-35000 only about 12000 itemIDs are actually used |
| 14:53.04 | Recluse | what're the others? o.O |
| 14:53.10 | Xinhuan | unused. |
| 14:53.17 | kenlyric | 35000 seems an odd number |
| 14:53.25 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 14:53.37 | Xinhuan | the highest known itemID on live realms is like 34710 or something |
| 14:53.37 | Grum | so that means i can chaincast a greatheal that costs 200 mana for ever |
| 14:53.54 | Xinhuan | maybe sunwell will add lots of items in the 35000-36000 range |
| 14:54.08 | Grum | Ozguli: flashheal rank1 i can cast forever |
| 14:54.11 | Grum | and i mean forever |
| 14:54.20 | Ozguli | heh k |
| 14:54.32 | Xinhuan | if i told you to design a zone, say Raid Instance A, i would tell you, you can design any item you want to drop from raid instance A, and you can use item IDs X to Y |
| 14:54.32 | Grum | rank 2 takes 35 mana per cast |
| 14:54.44 | Xinhuan | it doesn't mean the item designer would actually use every itemID from X-Y |
| 14:54.49 | Grum | so that would mean 12500/35*1.5 seconds long |
| 14:54.50 | Recluse | can you force a sv disk write in lua? |
| 14:54.58 | Xinhuan | yes Recluse, ReloadUI() |
| 14:55.00 | kenlyric | Grum: what do you think about 9h/4sp vs 8sp gem at the rare level? |
| 14:55.01 | Grum | yeah: ReloadUI() |
| 14:55.06 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: there are a lot more than 12000 itemids used currently live :9 |
| 14:55.06 | Recluse | well, aside from that |
| 14:55.13 | Grum | kenlyric: not worth it i guess |
| 14:55.18 | Xinhuan | its about 12000 on live realms Maldivia |
| 14:55.26 | kenlyric | it's a good thing I have like 10 stacks of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32067 ;) |
| 14:55.33 | Bruners | !rating 1425 |
| 14:55.34 | Xinhuan | 1425 rating gives 327(5s), 288(3s) and 248(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:55.44 | Grum | kenlyric: hehe |
| 14:55.51 | Grum | i will still use mp5+healing |
| 14:55.52 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: it's around 25k on live realms |
| 14:56.01 | kenlyric | booh! |
| 14:56.05 | Xinhuan | i am certain its not 25k |
| 14:56.07 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: I had aroudn 12k in my DB before TBC was released |
| 14:56.08 | Grum | Maldivia: i think xinhuan is actually talking about gear |
| 14:56.17 | Xinhuan | items with a different suffix dont' count as different items |
| 14:56.21 | Xinhuan | they are the same item |
| 14:56.24 | Maldivia | I know |
| 14:56.33 | Xinhuan | if i counted suffixes as different items, i have 65k items in my db |
| 14:56.42 | keiss | too bad theres not a BT equivalent to the 9hea/4spi gem |
| 14:56.48 | Xinhuan | without counting suffixes, there's only about 12-13k items |
| 14:56.54 | Maldivia | on current 2.4 PTR, there's around 30k itemIDs in use |
| 14:56.55 | Grum | kenlyric: 9h4spi would be 4.4spi on human priest |
| 14:56.58 | Xinhuan | and i scanned every itemID |
| 14:57.00 | sb_ | Bibi: do you have information about mark of illidari & sunwell? |
| 14:57.05 | Grum | not sure how that translates to healing though |
| 14:57.05 | Xinhuan | did you scan every itemID? |
| 14:57.08 | Maldivia | yes |
| 14:57.33 | Xinhuan | i am fairly certain you're wrong |
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| 14:57.37 | Maldivia | from 2.4, Blizzard is so nice to us, and are giving us a list of valid itemIds, thus we can say for sure how many there are :) |
| 14:57.43 | kenlyric | holy or disc, priest is bound to have another 5% as well |
| 14:57.58 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?items <-- 23160 items found |
| 14:58.01 | Xinhuan | not really, querying an itemicon that doesn't exist will count towards your disconnect limit |
| 14:58.04 | Grum | of that 5-10% prolly isnt there anymore |
| 14:58.15 | kenlyric | and of course if you can ape 80% fsr |
| 14:58.25 | Grum | kenlyric: another 5%? |
| 14:58.36 | kenlyric | either spirit of redemption or that talent in disc |
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| 14:58.41 | Grum | i am 80-85% inside fsr |
| 14:58.45 | Grum | oh yeah |
| 14:59.06 | Maldivia | Grum: so the 25k I guess wasn't far away :) |
| 14:59.15 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: No it wont :9 |
| 14:59.19 | Grum | Spiritual Guidance: +25% of spi == healing |
| 14:59.32 | Xinhuan | yes it will ;) |
| 14:59.35 | Xinhuan | go try it on ptr |
| 14:59.41 | Grum | and Spiritual Healing: +10% on from+healing |
| 14:59.51 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: I have, queried all 30178 items on the PTR to get their icons, no disconnects |
| 14:59.52 | Grum | so 10 spi .. is 2.75 healing |
| 15:00.09 | Xinhuan | alright you win |
| 15:00.16 | Xinhuan | i got disconnected for some reason then |
| 15:00.19 | Grum | erm |
| 15:00.20 | Grum | wrong |
| 15:00.30 | kenlyric | unless you're imp ds spirit, then it's more :) |
| 15:00.40 | Grum | 9 spi is 2.75 healing for human |
| 15:00.42 | kenlyric | ds spirit redundancy is redundant. |
| 15:00.55 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: quering item data for items not loaded will get you disconnected after the 12th try (or something like that) |
| 15:01.26 | Xinhuan | its a bit more complicated than that |
| 15:01.28 | Grum | 9 spi is 3.85 healing for human priest with imp spi ^^ |
| 15:01.47 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: I've collected item data since release, I know my items :) |
| 15:01.50 | Xinhuan | blizzard averages out your number of invalid link requests over 1 minute or so (dunno exact numbers) |
| 15:02.01 | Xinhuan | i also have been, i know the 2.3 limits |
| 15:02.17 | Xinhuan | querying any faster than 1 per 10 secs risks disconnection |
| 15:02.21 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: well, I know, if I query 12 items fast, I get disconnected, wont if I do 11 |
| 15:02.34 | Grum | that is not true |
| 15:02.38 | Xinhuan | yes, but if you do 11, then wait 30 secs, then query the 12, you will get disconnected |
| 15:02.40 | Grum | i can query 10000 valid items in 1 second |
| 15:02.40 | kenlyric | I think you could make an argument that 8sp vs 9h/4sp comes down to how balanced your gear is... |
| 15:02.47 | Xinhuan | grum, you won't |
| 15:03.01 | Xinhuan | if you query more than 200 per sec or so, you'll get disconnected for flooding |
| 15:03.01 | Maldivia | Grum: we're talking items that's not loaded on server and not in your cache |
| 15:03.20 | Grum | Maldivia: from 2.3 all items are loaded on the server afaik |
| 15:03.27 | Maldivia | Grum: nope |
| 15:03.29 | Xinhuan | they aren't |
| 15:03.33 | Xinhuan | only on creation/logging in |
| 15:03.56 | Grum | right but you can still request an existing item .. or? |
| 15:03.56 | Maldivia | Grum: since 1.4 they are loaded on demand, and not on server start |
| 15:04.00 | kenlyric | of course, stat heavy gear (over +heal heavy gear) likes the spirit even more... ow. I should be leveling my warrior, not doing math. |
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| 15:04.13 | Grum | kenlyric: yeah i wonder how it will end up |
| 15:04.17 | Grum | but i know that i need way more spirit now |
| 15:04.17 | Xinhuan | yes you can requset an existing item - but there's still upper limits |
| 15:04.27 | Xinhuan | and the upper limit has to do with flood disconnections |
| 15:04.31 | Maldivia | Grum: if the items is loaded on the server ,you can query as many as you want, as long as you don't hit the anti-flood limit |
| 15:04.33 | Grum | and that spirit gear is actually the way to go (seeing the new itemization completely takes out +mp5) |
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| 15:04.45 | kenlyric | I had all +8 spirit gems at first because I was unwilling to give up my dreams of spirit whoredom |
| 15:04.54 | Grum | grin |
| 15:04.57 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: do you know what the itemid range is of the new t6 pieces? |
| 15:05.00 | kenlyric | it'll be nice to head back there :) |
| 15:05.09 | Grum | i hate the fact they dont have a 11healing/(5|6)spi gem |
| 15:05.18 | ZealotOnAStick | kadrahil: they should all be on wowdb |
| 15:05.20 | Grum | kadrahil: check wowdb.com |
| 15:05.25 | kadrahil | ah ok |
| 15:05.39 | Grum | they only have 11h2mp5 or 10spi :( |
| 15:05.44 | Xinhuan | i've averaged this at about 100-200/sec but its difficult to estimate this because once you cached it, you can't uncache it without deleting your wdb ;p |
| 15:06.28 | kenlyric | split stat never appealed to me personally because +healing on gear always seemed sufficient. I always wanted more regen. |
| 15:06.52 | Grum | kenlyric: tbh i always went with 9/2 because they 'give more' |
| 15:07.07 | Grum | because of the rounding on the mp5 |
| 15:07.08 | kenlyric | well, you go with those because of the rounding bonus |
| 15:07.13 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:07.38 | Grum | atm i use 11h/2mp5, 11h5int, 5int2mp5 |
| 15:07.54 | Grum | but .. well .. humz |
| 15:08.00 | Grum | there just isnt enough +spi gems |
| 15:09.05 | kenlyric | at least those awful 4int/2mp5 gems aren't quite so awful anymore :) |
| 15:09.06 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=3&filter=qu=4;cr=24;crs=1;crv=0 .. that is just pathetic |
| 15:09.25 | Grum | true those will be nice-ish :) |
| 15:09.54 | keiss | one thing is for sure , iam getting major spirit on my chest instead of restore mana |
| 15:10.02 | kenlyric | ALREADY DONE! |
| 15:10.42 | kenlyric | now I can cry again about there being no new spirit weapon enchant |
| 15:10.51 | Grum | keiss: hmm |
| 15:10.59 | Grum | 15spi vs 6mp5 .. mmm |
| 15:11.07 | Grum | there is just one spirit tbc enchant ^^ |
| 15:11.36 | sb_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30572 - botanica farming :/ |
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| 15:11.48 | WNxCryptic | Hello hello. |
| 15:11.56 | sb_ | to get ~10 of those |
| 15:12.10 | Grum | unique equipped right? |
| 15:12.14 | keiss | sb_: gl ... ull have them by the time Wotlk comes out :D |
| 15:12.19 | keiss | Grum: not anymore in 2.4 |
| 15:12.24 | Grum | seriously? |
| 15:12.27 | sb_ | yup |
| 15:12.28 | keiss | yep |
| 15:12.41 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32201 better imo |
| 15:12.56 | sb_ | but blue only |
| 15:13.15 | sb_ | mh okay - you can put +22 heal in your red slots |
| 15:13.17 | sb_ | so doesnt matter |
| 15:13.41 | kenlyric | I'd put the purple one on the red slots :) |
| 15:14.08 | sb_ | nah +22 heal :) |
| 15:14.58 | Grum | i dont take the +22 heal yet, not enough gear to justify the loss in regen |
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| 15:15.16 | sb_ | hmm why? |
| 15:15.25 | sb_ | innervate does regen job :p |
| 15:15.32 | Grum | not a druid ;) |
| 15:15.34 | kenlyric | nobody innervates holy priests |
| 15:15.42 | keiss | Grum: my approach is ... maintain enough regen not to go oom, and rest is +hea/sta :) |
| 15:15.44 | Grum | we just get shadowpriests :P |
| 15:15.47 | sb_ | why not kenlyric? |
| 15:15.53 | kenlyric | if we're lucky |
| 15:15.58 | keiss | i get innervates all the time :) |
| 15:16.05 | sb_ | same here |
| 15:16.32 | Grum | keiss: i've got ~340mp5 while casting, 10khp and ~13kmana with ~2150 healing raidbuffed |
| 15:16.32 | FinalX | Grum: "Battery" :) (or that's what they call me on my Shadowpriest anyway) |
| 15:16.36 | sb_ | with lurker trinket its like ~13k mana with 1 innervate+trinket cycle |
| 15:16.52 | sb_ | -> lots of heal with CoH ;) |
| 15:17.13 | FinalX | people always told me i was crazy when i got coh :| |
| 15:17.18 | FinalX | but i love it :p |
| 15:17.20 | kenlyric | I'd like to see what my regen would look like with a shadow priest. |
| 15:17.25 | keiss | Grum: hmm iam around 290mp5 , ~10k, ~11k, 2400hea |
| 15:17.30 | sb_ | CoH is perfect for MH/BT |
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| 15:17.54 | kenlyric | I wish imp DS worked with the priest's spirit |
| 15:18.08 | keiss | haha that would be OP |
| 15:18.19 | kenlyric | synergistastic! |
| 15:18.33 | sb_ | kenlyric: huh? |
| 15:18.34 | Grum | keiss: i dont know about you, but i can chain-chuck manapots in fights like BB/illi phase2 and still go oom with a shadowpriest |
| 15:18.49 | kenlyric | Grum: wait until your GCD goes down |
| 15:18.51 | Grum | then again, that could also mean the rest heals too little |
| 15:19.11 | Grum | yeah hehe .. would be imba to have 500 haste rating and CoH spam every second ^^ |
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| 15:19.25 | Grum | 'PEWPEWLAZARZ' |
| 15:19.33 | sb_ | 2 innervates in illidan fight yesterday - 2 mana potions *shrug* |
| 15:19.35 | keiss | Grum: SoH , Spellsurge switching , mana pots, innervate , shadowfiend , ... i survive ;) |
| 15:19.41 | sb_ | (firstkill! :p) |
| 15:19.43 | kenlyric | but, while you're going oom faster, so is the spriest |
| 15:19.54 | Grum | SoH? |
| 15:20.02 | kenlyric | draenei fucker |
| 15:20.05 | Grum | oh |
| 15:20.11 | Grum | i should do spellsurge switching yeah |
| 15:20.16 | Grum | geiv addon |
| 15:20.17 | keiss | kenlyric: love you too |
| 15:20.20 | Grum | cba to do it manually |
| 15:20.22 | kenlyric | no spacegoats at the party! |
| 15:20.28 | kenlyric | spacegoat is 4 pvp! |
| 15:20.29 | keiss | Grum: Manasurge ;) |
| 15:20.41 | Grum | well i dont get the innervate |
| 15:20.46 | Grum | at least not guaranteed |
| 15:20.54 | Grum | i should just ask for it on the p2->3 transition on illi for example |
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| 15:20.59 | sb_ | yup |
| 15:21.02 | WNxCryptic | Does this line reflect whether the translation for the language that WoW is configured for was successfully loaded or not? ace:LoadTranslation("Test") then |
| 15:21.15 | WNxCryptic | (ignore 'then', sorry) |
| 15:21.20 | Grum | but usually i can recover with a manapot+trinket+innerfocus my first GHrk7 |
| 15:22.00 | sb_ | with CoH you are oom when 1 flame is dead (well, at least i was...) |
| 15:22.12 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:22.20 | Grum | i chuck 2 pots during the 2 flames are up |
| 15:22.33 | Grum | and the 3rd after the second dies |
| 15:22.34 | sb_ | so flame tank (feral) innervates me -> all fine |
| 15:22.46 | Grum | and then trinket+innerfocus+shadowfiend on start of phase3 |
| 15:22.55 | Grum | and i have ~95-100% mana |
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| 15:23.29 | Grum | depending on the dmg i occasionally also clearcast->trinket+innerfocus on the second add |
| 15:23.41 | mort | dear god, looks like our holy priest will beg me for an innervate this evening ;) |
| 15:23.47 | FinalX | i'm not familiar with the fight you're describing, but, what about using mana potions/shadowfiend/inner focus earlier so they can cool down and you can last longer before going oom and having to recover? |
| 15:23.51 | FinalX | :p |
| 15:24.03 | Grum | FinalX: you start phase2 with 99.5% mana |
| 15:24.10 | Grum | and in phase2 you can use shadowfiends |
| 15:24.11 | FinalX | ah |
| 15:24.33 | Grum | they instantly die trying to get behind the flames (run through the 5k trail) |
| 15:24.43 | keiss | is there somewhere a table mapping talent_build -> role (healer,tank,dps) somewhere ? |
| 15:24.53 | Grum | not really keiss |
| 15:25.01 | keiss | grr |
| 15:25.12 | Grum | i save my innerfocus for a clearcast |
| 15:25.21 | Grum | and the p2->p3 transition is about 10 seconds |
| 15:25.28 | FinalX | hehe i was thinking of building such a table as well keiss :) |
| 15:25.30 | Grum | so the second p2 ends i pop the trinket and rush off |
| 15:25.47 | Grum | that is with innerfocus a guaranteed free heal+15 second of full regen ~2-5k orso? |
| 15:25.48 | keiss | FinalX: i need it for assigning roles to raid unit |
| 15:25.50 | Grum | erm 2.5k |
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| 15:26.23 | Grum | chuck healing pot and get shadowfiend out at start of p3 and its 4k+~5k+2.5k and a free GHrk7 |
| 15:26.27 | WNxCryptic | Is there a particular channel for Ace development support? |
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| 15:26.34 | [Ammo] | this would be it |
| 15:26.35 | keiss | WNxCryptic: here ? |
| 15:26.37 | Grum | WNxCryptic: this should be it |
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| 15:27.35 | WNxCryptic | lol..ok, I thought so but there was so much secondary conversation going on I wasn't certain. |
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| 15:28.02 | Grum | but keiss i have 12 slots for gems, so assuming i have at least 9 healing in each i can get 12*13 healing more from turning em into red gems |
| 15:28.26 | Grum | WNxCryptic: usually a lot quieter in here |
| 15:28.35 | WNxCryptic | I'm just starting with toying around with addons for WoW and ace seemed like a well-built set of libraries that I could build upon. I've read over the "getting started" tutorial, is there more documentation that I can read? |
| 15:28.43 | mort | how on earth do zou think you can get 12 epic red gems? ;) |
| 15:28.54 | Grum | mort: ask? |
| 15:29.04 | Grum | just say: geiv to the guild-gem-crafter? |
| 15:29.07 | mort | we have a huge waiting list for them :( |
| 15:29.18 | keiss | Grum: thats basically my setup , alot of pure +healing gems |
| 15:29.19 | Grum | no-one wants red tbh except for spelldmg ^^ |
| 15:29.32 | Grum | we *NEVER* have purple+orange gems |
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| 15:31.41 | WNxCryptic | Grum? Anyone? |
| 15:31.43 | Grum | tbh dunno the status of red gems, i just know they arent as much in demand |
| 15:31.44 | mort | 10 agi/12 spelldmg/22 healing :( |
| 15:31.52 | mort | everything in high demand |
| 15:31.59 | Grum | WNxCryptic: check other addons on the svn |
| 15:32.10 | FinalX | wtb 12 spelldmg gems for my priest |
| 15:32.16 | WNxCryptic | Grum: and just "dissect" their code, you mean? |
| 15:32.17 | Grum | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/ |
| 15:32.39 | Grum | yeah, see what they do, ask here if people know addons that do stuff 'proper' or 'similar' of which you can rip it off :) |
| 15:33.13 | Recluse | no way to get itemid/link/string with only the item's text name if you don't possess the item, correct? |
| 15:33.25 | keiss | there is also 'some' API documentation http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:API_Documentation |
| 15:33.39 | WNxCryptic | Grum: well I'm eventually looking to write my own Totem UI simply because I'm not happy with "Totemus" and a few of the others. Do you think thats a bit overambitious for my first addon? |
| 15:33.56 | Grum | depends on your experience |
| 15:34.03 | keiss | isnt there going to be something like that in 2.4 btw ? |
| 15:34.07 | Grum | i started of with something hard as well >< |
| 15:34.16 | WNxCryptic | Grum: I have programming experience in C++ and a LOT of web-developing..so I'm used to programming and whatnot. |
| 15:34.27 | Grum | well decide what you want to make |
| 15:35.18 | WNxCryptic | grum: how do you mean, what I want to make..you mean like a concept idea? |
| 15:35.30 | Grum | and start with the basics, will prolly include: making your first addon actually load in print something, making a button, putting a spell behind the button, start on options, making options more userfriendly, make the user choose what totem to use, group em up, show additional information somewhere on the screen .. etc et cet c ^^ |
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| 15:35.57 | WNxCryptic | ah ok, sorry didn't know you were still typing ;) |
| 15:36.02 | Grum | np ^^ |
| 15:36.13 | Grum | but yeah, just put down what you want to use and break it down in steps you have to learn |
| 15:36.21 | WNxCryptic | Grum: is there any program or anything that emulates a WoW enviornment so you can test code? |
| 15:36.23 | Grum | and learn those steps :P |
| 15:36.27 | Grum | yes, wow |
| 15:36.30 | Grum | O.o |
| 15:36.50 | WNxCryptic | Grum: I knew you were going to say that. I have a lot of spare time at work, so most of my development will be done here, but no wow :'( |
| 15:36.59 | keiss | haha |
| 15:37.03 | Grum | you should get some basic addons though: ACP (Addon Control Panel - so you can have a 'development profile' - basicly turning all nonessential addons off and having fucking quick ReloadUIs) |
| 15:37.18 | Grum | you should also get Swatter or BugSack (or similar) |
| 15:37.29 | Grum | so you can track your mistakes ingame (and get a stacktrace you can copy/paste) |
| 15:38.01 | clad|office | [Ammo]: its not a problem with Clique |
| 15:38.02 | Grum | wowlua (inside wow lua intepreter/commandline) and omnibus (allows you to save lua code and run it) ingame |
| 15:38.03 | clad|office | so Clique won't be fixex |
| 15:38.08 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 15:38.10 | clad|office | however, the Blizzard UI will be fixed. |
| 15:38.15 | [Ammo] | I just have faith in you :) |
| 15:38.18 | clad|office | any spell that is cast by secure attributes on click |
| 15:38.33 | clad|office | will have this issue, because its a problem in the secure button template. |
| 15:38.36 | what-K | hi all i look for a buff timer addon with bars |
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| 15:38.43 | Grum | WNxCryptic: the learning curve is quite ...harsh |
| 15:38.47 | clad|office | Grum: WoWLua's next release allows you to save/restore stuff as well :P |
| 15:38.52 | Grum | what-K: ElkBuffBars |
| 15:38.56 | keiss | any druid experts ? is there a way to recognise a tank from a pure dps feral somehow on talent choices ? |
| 15:38.58 | Recluse | what-K: elkano's buff bars, imho |
| 15:38.58 | mort | satrinabuffframes |
| 15:39.00 | Grum | clad|office: nice |
| 15:39.04 | what-K | thx |
| 15:39.05 | [Ammo] | clad|office: did the wowprogramming svn move? |
| 15:39.30 | mort | "thick hide"? ;) |
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| 15:40.05 | mort | anyway if you are feral you are both per definition |
| 15:40.36 | keiss | yeah i know, but was wondering if a druid that wants 'only' to dps or 'only' to tank would have a specific talent which the other wont |
| 15:40.41 | Recluse | if points in "savage fury" = dps druid? |
| 15:41.05 | mort | thick hide would be a talent for tanking |
| 15:41.20 | keiss | k |
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| 15:41.58 | Recluse | regardless, there is always the possibility of noobish druids who don't know how to talent themselves XD |
| 15:42.22 | keiss | Recluse: well , iam assuming lvl70 - high lvl raider with a clue :) |
| 15:42.36 | mort | stop assuming that |
| 15:42.45 | keiss | i can for my purpose ;) |
| 15:43.30 | Recluse | i've met many a raider who somehow never fail to suprise me with their lack of knowledge of their own class' basic concepts lol |
| 15:43.41 | Ozguli | for a moment I was rather sure there was RSS feed symbol after Recluse's message |
| 15:43.57 | mort | and you have a minimum of 3 in zour own raid group ;) |
| 15:44.11 | kadrahil | hm |
| 15:44.27 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: does the same deal go on the ptr that if the item hasn't been looted then you can't query the server for the itemid? |
| 15:44.29 | FinalX | keiss: then you want different tables for people that have lives outside raids (solo'ing) and tables for raiders-only... |
| 15:44.52 | Xinhuan | ya same deal |
| 15:45.00 | kadrahil | ah, so that's why i can't see that spelldmg wand :O |
| 15:45.00 | Xinhuan | ptr servers run on the same rules as live |
| 15:45.01 | kadrahil | ok |
| 15:45.07 | keiss | FinalX: iam not building an all-purpose table atm , just a prototype for my specific needs ;) |
| 15:45.24 | Recluse | keiss: but yeah, for the majority, it should work fine. was just sayin' :p Ozguli: eh? |
| 15:45.31 | kenlyric | Recluse: ever met a warlock without a succubus or a warrior without berserker stance? |
| 15:45.41 | Ozguli | should stop eating moldy food |
| 15:46.29 | Recluse | kenlyric: i grouped with a warlock w/o succy, yes. didn't even know it existed. never found a warrior like that tho lol |
| 15:46.50 | kenlyric | I win! |
| 15:46.58 | kenlyric | I raided with a warrior like that. ;) |
| 15:47.07 | Grum | i found a shaman without heroism! |
| 15:47.19 | kenlyric | heroism is from the trainer? |
| 15:47.23 | Grum | yup :p |
| 15:47.26 | kenlyric | ok, you win |
| 15:47.37 | kenlyric | I found a priest without fear ward, but that was me. |
| 15:47.42 | Recluse | lol |
| 15:47.51 | Grum | @ prince (kara), POP HEROISM!!!! ... omg ... what? .. oh .. humz .. should i have that? ... OH FEK |
| 15:48.00 | Grum | we lollered |
| 15:48.04 | mort | hunter without misdirection... |
| 15:48.28 | kenlyric | I've forgotten to get training before. |
| 15:48.31 | WNxCryptic | Grum: is it going to be more problematic for me to (when I first start writing my addon) try to go ahead and write the addon to have multi-language support? |
| 15:48.34 | kenlyric | but never at max level... |
| 15:48.41 | Grum | WNxCryptic: look at the addons |
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| 15:48.46 | Grum | its completely trivial |
| 15:49.09 | kenlyric | though, I know half our pallies didn't have bless of... sacrifice? the one that transfers damage to them. |
| 15:49.09 | Recluse | kenlyric: same. sometimes while leveling i can go 6-8 levels before realizing "mebbe i should go to trainer" or "oh, i got 6 unspent talent points D=" |
| 15:49.13 | WNxCryptic | Grum: how do you mean? |
| 15:49.30 | mjc | kenlyric: protadin talent |
| 15:49.32 | kenlyric | Recluse: Fubar_TrainerFu is great for telling you if you need to go or not :) |
| 15:49.42 | _rane | is it possible to ignore people with some addon or something so that the ignored people won't see that you have ignored them? |
| 15:49.53 | Grum | WNxCryptic: look at some addons (for example: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Routes/ ) |
| 15:50.03 | mort | prat should have a filter for that |
| 15:50.29 | Grum | its really simple :) |
| 15:50.30 | kenlyric | no, blessing of sacrifice, not sanctuary |
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| 15:50.32 | Recluse | lol, i just get so wrapped up in the leveling, it slips my mind "oh, i'll do it after i finish the zone" and then i forget |
| 15:50.49 | kenlyric | we used to use it on the panther boss to some success |
| 15:50.58 | Recluse | but never at 70 would i not have gone to trainer and done class quests D= |
| 15:51.03 | mjc | kenlyric: oh |
| 15:51.05 | mjc | heh |
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| 15:51.29 | kenlyric | well, imagine a warrior with zerker stance trying to tank Nef when your dwarf priest is out... |
| 15:51.30 | kenlyric | *without zerker stance |
| 15:51.40 | kenlyric | it's over VERY QUICKLY |
| 15:52.28 | kenlyric | we always suspected he was a bad tank, we just never quite realized how bad. It became clear when we had to convince him to use execute on vael. |
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| 15:54.34 | Recluse | lol |
| 15:54.45 | WNxCryptic | Grum: what language are addons written in? |
| 15:54.57 | Recluse | ...lua? |
| 15:55.17 | WNxCryptic | ..I mean, is there an editing program which does syntax highlighting for .lua files? |
| 15:55.18 | [SW]Dodge | LUA! |
| 15:55.18 | krka | [SW]Dodge: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 15:55.19 | Grum | WNxCryptic: www.lua.org |
| 15:55.31 | Grum | WNxCryptic: my vim does it |
| 15:55.38 | [SW]Dodge | WNxCryptic: wxluaEditor^^ |
| 15:55.40 | kenlyric | "do you think he's at 30% and gives infinite rage just for shits and giggles?" |
| 15:55.52 | [SW]Dodge | it has something lil lua_bot inside :) |
| 15:55.53 | keiss | gogo vim :) |
| 15:55.57 | [SW]Dodge | like* |
| 15:56.08 | Recluse | WNxCryptic: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ/AddOn_Author_Resources#Lua_Editors |
| 15:56.29 | Recluse | i use notepad++ personally |
| 15:57.08 | kagaro | TextMate > all |
| 15:57.10 | WNxCryptic | Sweet. I already have notepad++ due to webdevelopment (portable apps FTW) |
| 15:57.48 | keiss | theres no way a dps warrior would have shield mastery , right ? |
| 15:58.10 | mort | do you know "scrub" ;) |
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| 15:58.15 | Uhuru | kagaro thank's for the simpleminimap fix, it works fine now |
| 15:59.51 | keiss | mort: no, would be nice when i first asked 20mins ago ... thx anyway :) |
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| 16:00.43 | WNxCryptic | Noooo... Totemus isn't scripted with Ace...guess I have to write it myself :( |
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| 16:01.33 | keiss | WNxCryptic: its not like u *have to* use ace ... if u just want some modifications to it ... |
| 16:01.57 | WNxCryptic | Well ace seems like it has a reasonably large and comprehensive set of libraries already built for it..why wouldn't I use it? lol |
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| 16:02.19 | kenlyric | didn't somebody else already write it? |
| 16:02.19 | WNxCryptic | Plus it would be nice if all / most addons were scripted to a universal set of libraries for efficiency (like ace) |
| 16:02.28 | kenlyric | oh goody |
| 16:02.31 | keiss | my point was if you just want some small change in Totemus , u might as well edit that |
| 16:02.35 | dylanm | Let's not go down that road. |
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| 16:02.51 | kenlyric | dylanm: this is #wowace. We're always on that road. |
| 16:02.52 | WNxCryptic | keiss: oh, no its not just small changes. its a completely different UI based off of Totemus. |
| 16:02.58 | keiss | WNxCryptic: ok |
| 16:03.11 | Grum | WNxCryptic: downside of libraries is that they usually grow to big |
| 16:03.13 | kenlyric | you've checked out all the other totem addons too? |
| 16:03.25 | Grum | and then they arent quite as usuable anymore if you want to make something with a low footprint |
| 16:03.28 | what-K | wich addon can i use for a respawn timer ? |
| 16:03.30 | Grum | memory wise that is |
| 16:03.31 | WNxCryptic | Keiss: its just similar to it..like I might steal some of the graphics ideas and whatnot..but Totemus lacks a lot of stuff like hotkey configurations and integrated macros and whatnot. |
| 16:03.38 | Grum | what-K: in instances - incubator |
| 16:03.46 | what-K | thx |
| 16:04.20 | WNxCryptic | Grum: well right now would you describe the Ace libraries as too big? Are you anticipating them being too big for Ace3? |
| 16:04.50 | Grum | some of them should be split up tbh, but thats not really feasable with the current addon system |
| 16:04.58 | [Ammo] | the issue with libraries is that some code is never ever used, so libraries need to perform a specific duty |
| 16:05.08 | [Ammo] | if you keep them focussed on one thing they work fine |
| 16:05.11 | Grum | yup |
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| 16:05.31 | WNxCryptic | Are there plans to split the libraries further so that each addon can pick and choose which specific libs it needs? |
| 16:05.41 | [Ammo] | Ace3 is already done like that |
| 16:05.43 | WNxCryptic | (even though that would effectively break all current addons) |
| 16:06.08 | WNxCryptic | Quick question: is flexbar still kept up-to-date? |
| 16:06.26 | Industrial | yes |
| 16:06.27 | Grum | FB3 is being build |
| 16:06.29 | Industrial | check out FB2 |
| 16:06.32 | Industrial | fb3 is, yes. |
| 16:06.39 | Grum | pok cncfanatics when he pops on irc :) |
| 16:06.41 | dylanm | I'd suggest... especially if you're just starting out I'd keep to the API for a little while and then look around the libraries to see what would help you. |
| 16:06.41 | Grum | (poke |
| 16:06.52 | Industrial | agreed on that |
| 16:07.00 | Grum | its also the hard and tedious way |
| 16:07.03 | dylanm | You really don't want to get detached from the guys when you're starting out. |
| 16:07.06 | dylanm | *guts |
| 16:07.11 | Industrial | it already such an alien thing when you start out, better to understand whats going on behind the scenes before automating it |
| 16:07.12 | WNxCryptic | wait wait...API = built in functions for WoW and the libraries are what Ace is built off on? |
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| 16:07.27 | Industrial | not saying you cant make fine addons without libraries, because none of mine do :p |
| 16:07.29 | WNxCryptic | lol.. 'of'* |
| 16:07.36 | dylanm | But do whatever you want :p |
| 16:07.40 | dylanm | Whatever makes those totems shiny. |
| 16:07.52 | WNxCryptic | Well, what are the advantages of building something off of the ace libraries? |
| 16:07.59 | [Ammo] | Industrial: but your addons have been known to suck balls! |
| 16:08.13 | Industrial | you mistake my addons for your ...... |
| 16:08.16 | Industrial | ;D |
| 16:08.24 | dylanm | [Ammo]: They're not afraid to try new things. |
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| 16:08.31 | Grum | Industrial: so what addon did you make? (if i dont have it it must suck) |
| 16:08.40 | Industrial | industrial.wowinterface.com |
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| 16:08.49 | Grum | doesnt link .. so broken |
| 16:08.59 | Industrial | ? |
| 16:09.18 | dylanm | Indy's wowi avatar is too coooot. |
| 16:09.20 | RaydenUni | interesting, weightstones and sharpening stones work while shapeshifted now |
| 16:09.32 | RaydenUni | undead can bleed? that's a huge change |
| 16:09.46 | Industrial | how about elementals |
| 16:09.59 | Industrial | druid vs elementals is still (lets stick with the theme) balls |
| 16:10.02 | Grum | haha best avatar ever Industrial ^^ |
| 16:10.05 | Industrial | Grum: :D |
| 16:10.23 | RaydenUni | some elementals are now not always immune to pison |
| 16:10.30 | RaydenUni | :/ |
| 16:10.49 | Industrial | here mr rock! ahve this fluid that drips right off! take that! |
| 16:10.49 | RaydenUni | that makes kara much more druid friendly though |
| 16:11.46 | Industrial | Grum: idInfobar took over for idStats btw |
| 16:12.13 | Grum | i'm mostly facinated by your avatar ^^ |
| 16:12.17 | Industrial | lol. |
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| 16:12.50 | Grum | its imba! |
| 16:14.10 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 16:14.29 | RaydenUni | i didn't know you could drop out of druid flight form, fall cast some dots, get out of combat and then go back into flight form |
| 16:14.44 | Gnarfoz | has anyone seen a list of all available ingame titles and their IDs? |
| 16:15.29 | WNxCryptic | How complete is Ace3? |
| 16:15.32 | kenlyric | wowhead? |
| 16:15.42 | Grum | WNxCryptic: define completeness |
| 16:15.53 | keiss | RaydenUni: carefull with GCD thou :) |
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| 16:16.04 | WNxCryptic | Grum: complete enough that if I start writing my totem addon within a week that I should use Ace3 instead of Ace2 |
| 16:16.35 | syeren | Hmm, where can I find the beta versions of Ace 3 addons? Like Proximo 2.0 |
| 16:16.43 | syeren | I know it's on the site somewhere, just don't know where >_< |
| 16:16.45 | Grum | syeren: branches likely |
| 16:16.55 | syeren | How do I get there Grum :)? |
| 16:17.06 | Grum | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Proximo/2.0/ |
| 16:17.06 | dylanm | svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches |
| 16:17.45 | Grum | WNxCryptic: not all libraries commonly used have been ported to 'ace3' therefor you will load some ace2 code as well |
| 16:17.57 | Grum | but .. well .. most often you dont need the libraries *that* bad :) |
| 16:18.28 | what-K | how can i add the button to the minimap with this screw " Addon Preferences" ? |
| 16:18.32 | syeren | Much love Grum :) |
| 16:18.47 | WNxCryptic | lol...to keep my head from exploding I may just write it in Ace2 and then rewrite it when Ace3 is released. |
| 16:19.16 | Grum | what-K: i suppose you mean 'Remove the button' |
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| 16:19.36 | what-K | yes but i need it now for a few options |
| 16:19.40 | Grum | click on it, go to 'Addon Preferences' (left top dropdown i tihnk - or should be defaultly selected) and select that you dont want to see the minimap icon :) |
| 16:19.44 | Grum | euuh |
| 16:19.49 | Grum | i tihnk /rock will get it |
| 16:19.59 | what-K | i have delete my wtf folder :( |
| 16:20.07 | Grum | what-K: poor you |
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| 16:20.10 | syeren | Grum, is there anyway I can just download this 2.0 Folder instead of having to right click save target as? |
| 16:20.17 | Grum | syeren: using svk |
| 16:20.19 | Grum | erm svn |
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| 16:20.26 | Grum | svk co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Proximo/2.0/ Proximo |
| 16:20.26 | what-K | that sucks hard :( |
| 16:20.36 | Grum | what-K: lesson learned i guess, make backups! |
| 16:20.44 | what-K | yes |
| 16:20.49 | what-K | ok next problem |
| 16:20.57 | Gnarfoz | <kenlyric> wowhead? <-- wouldn't know where there :< |
| 16:20.59 | Grum | still not converted Fin ^^ |
| 16:21.01 | what-K | i cant click the mark to enable it |
| 16:21.30 | Grum | meh .. that should be FinalX :P |
| 16:21.41 | Grum | stupid shorter-tab-completing-to-the-wrong-name-names |
| 16:21.52 | FinalX | see, new keyboard.. :) |
| 16:21.55 | Grum | what-K: dunno tbh |
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| 16:22.18 | Grum | oh .. grin .. ah well its because i use svk here :P |
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| 16:22.34 | Grum | and its quite hard to get rid of typing svk for work and svn for private stuff >< |
| 16:22.40 | FinalX | xD |
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| 16:26.13 | syeren | Grum, how do I use the SVN to download a zip / rar ;p? |
| 16:26.24 | Grum | you dont |
| 16:26.45 | Grum | the only easy way is by 'svn co' the rest is painful |
| 16:27.40 | syeren | :( |
| 16:27.54 | Grum | what? its easy :0 |
| 16:28.01 | Grum | meh whiny |
| 16:28.01 | syeren | I have to find it etc ;p |
| 16:28.31 | syeren | I have no idea what any of this is Grum, I just know Proximo2 is rather awesome, and it needs Ace3. |
| 16:28.32 | syeren | :p |
| 16:28.58 | Grum | how is it more awesome than proximo? |
| 16:29.41 | Industrial | it doesnt need ace2 |
| 16:29.44 | Industrial | er ace3 |
| 16:29.48 | Industrial | its included in the download |
| 16:29.54 | Industrial | you dont need to donwload it separately |
| 16:29.57 | syeren | I got it off the svn. |
| 16:29.58 | syeren | :p |
| 16:29.59 | keiss | Ace3 is on WAU if u uncheck 'Skip SVN Working Copies' btw |
| 16:29.59 | Industrial | (I hope) |
| 16:30.17 | keiss | if thats what ur looking for |
| 16:30.24 | syeren | Thank you keiss ;D |
| 16:31.07 | Grum | syeren: http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/Proximo-2.0.tar.gz |
| 16:31.09 | Industrial | http://files.wowace.com/Proximo/Proximo-r60478.1.zip |
| 16:31.11 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:31.19 | Grum | Industrial: thats not it |
| 16:31.20 | syeren | I have it, thanks to you both though :) |
| 16:31.22 | Industrial | i know |
| 16:31.38 | Grum | unless there is a proximo2.0 trunk all of the above except for my tarred checkout is not right |
| 16:32.06 | Grum | or does the zipscript also make branches into zips? |
| 16:32.11 | Grum | (thought it didnt) |
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| 16:32.54 | Grum | Industrial: yours is the wrong 'version' |
| 16:33.00 | Industrial | i know |
| 16:33.18 | Grum | keiss: he doesnt just want 'ace3' he wants the actuall code itself (which is only on a svn branch) |
| 16:33.40 | Industrial | the point is you want an addon |
| 16:33.49 | Industrial | you should even have ot know what kind of backend the addon uses |
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| 16:34.02 | Industrial | nor is it relevant or interesting to someone that just wants to use the addon |
| 16:34.03 | keiss | Grum: i know , but i understood he already had the code for proximo2 from the svn ? |
| 16:34.23 | Grum | Industrial: clearly proximo 2.0 has new features |
| 16:34.32 | Industrial | i have no idea what ie even is |
| 16:34.36 | Industrial | it* |
| 16:34.41 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r61058 10Whats/ (Whats.lua Whats.toc): |
| 16:34.41 | CIA-8 | Whats : 0.451 |
| 16:34.41 | CIA-8 | - fix some bugs |
| 16:34.42 | Grum | arena addon |
| 16:35.06 | Grum | shows targets seen by your party (must be proximo users) and adds em to a frame with marks who targets it, hp/mana display |
| 16:35.08 | Industrial | well its in branches for a reason |
| 16:35.32 | Grum | because its still 'being developed' - he just wants it and doesnt want to bother with svn (which is stupid but hey, his choice) |
| 16:35.40 | Industrial | so wait |
| 16:35.47 | Industrial | caus it isnt ready yet if you just want it |
| 16:35.57 | Industrial | bbl |
| 16:36.50 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r61059 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 16:36.50 | CIA-8 | RatingBuster: |
| 16:36.50 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 16:37.07 | syeren | It's fully working thank you :) |
| 16:37.26 | syeren | Proximo 2 is awesome :D |
| 16:37.50 | Grum | he jsut wants to test it, for example Routes has been stable for eages in the trunk |
| 16:38.05 | Grum | erm branches ^^ |
| 16:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | FUCK YES ICE-1 IS FIXED |
| 16:38.18 | Grum | syeren: seriously, get svn and just update it |
| 16:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | DELICIOUS |
| 16:38.29 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 16:38.37 | sag_ich_nicht | hey. |
| 16:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`. |
| 16:38.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i heard some things |
| 16:38.43 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 16:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | about you taking over NECB |
| 16:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | are these things true |
| 16:39.00 | Funkeh` | oh I feel alldirty |
| 16:39.06 | Funkeh` | yes but not on my own |
| 16:39.14 | RaydenUni | rocket mount? |
| 16:39.18 | RaydenUni | where is my Rock Mount? |
| 16:39.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i also herd sum other things |
| 16:39.24 | Stanzilla | card game |
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| 16:39.31 | sag_ich_nicht | about mudkips and u |
| 16:39.36 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 16:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i herd u like them |
| 16:39.53 | Funkeh` | shh! |
| 16:40.38 | sb_ | ace3 fnecb? :p |
| 16:40.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` if you remove the "extras" i will kill you |
| 16:41.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if you make them LOD i will give you a cookie |
| 16:41.13 | sb_ | lol, 'extras'? |
| 16:41.21 | Grum | Funkeh`: you get 12c from me if you kill the extras sag_ich_nicht wants |
| 16:41.29 | Grum | and i'll protect you |
| 16:41.42 | WNxCryptic | Grum: question for you. Totemus (for examle) has 3 directories ("Totemus", "Sphere Loader", "Totemus Options") Now..I (for one) hate addons that are not modular (IE: you cant remove the sphere loader and have totemus still function) but have more than 1 directory. Couldn't the code be re-written to accomomdate the sphere loader and totemus options to be subdirectories |
| 16:41.44 | WNxCryptic | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum the killing blow sounds stay. and the annoy using /necb play too. |
| 16:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
| 16:42.14 | Pkekyo| | should I farm BGs at lvl 69, or level to 70 and then go pvp? |
| 16:42.16 | sb_ | lol |
| 16:42.36 | WNxCryptic | Should I beat you with this big ass stick or beat you with this little stick...that is the question.. |
| 16:42.38 | Grum | WNxCryptic: yeah you can - look @ Routes for examples of that |
| 16:42.39 | WNxCryptic | Go level. :P |
| 16:42.49 | Grum | it actually supports both, you can toss em away and it still works |
| 16:42.53 | Grum | but they are always loaded |
| 16:43.04 | SNiLD | hey anyone know an addon that would track who you go into instances with? |
| 16:43.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Notes-U-Need? |
| 16:43.24 | CIA-8 | 03elsia 072.4 * r61060 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 16:43.24 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 16:43.24 | CIA-8 | - Fixed SPELL_INSTANTKILL to SPELL_INSTAKILL. Added some instrumentation of events whose format isn't 100% certain yet. |
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| 16:44.12 | SNiLD | sag_ich_nicht: thanks |
| 16:45.30 | SNiLD | oh |
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| 16:45.35 | SNiLD | but it doesn't automatically track :/ |
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| 16:45.43 | WNxCryptic | Grum: what are the differences between Locales and Speeches? |
| 16:45.59 | mjc | Antiarc: ping0r |
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| 16:47.04 | Grum | WNxCryptic: depends on implementation |
| 16:47.16 | Grum | dont worry about localization you can really easily add it later |
| 16:47.23 | RaydenUni | Sunfire Handwraps look to be pretty good |
| 16:47.26 | RaydenUni | for a spriest at least |
| 16:47.31 | RaydenUni | beats my Handwraps of Flowing Thought |
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| 16:47.51 | WNxCryptic | Grum: Speeches seems to have random sayings for when you rez people or mount...are those just quirky files the designer chose to implement? |
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| 16:48.05 | RaydenUni | although who knows how hard Sunmotes will be to get |
| 16:48.17 | Grum | WNxCryptic: think so |
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| 16:49.04 | Grum | RaydenUni: prolly like vortexes |
| 16:50.04 | RaydenUni | at least they are boe |
| 16:52.05 | WNxCryptic | Grum: Inside Totemus, Ace2 is listed as an OptionalDep. How can something be an optional dependency? |
| 16:52.14 | WNxCryptic | That seems a little...redundant. |
| 16:52.16 | dylanm | Because it can be embedded. |
| 16:53.09 | dylanm | You load the unembedded version first if it's there (this is the optional part). |
| 16:53.10 | Recluse | i always wondered the same thing. i understand it and how it works, but wth? it should have a better suited name lol |
| 16:53.10 | WNxCryptic | I'm sorry..I don't follow you. How do you mean, "embedded" |
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| 16:53.49 | ZealotOnAStick | RaydenUni: right now, they look to be about original BT drop rate for Hearts of Darkness. |
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| 16:54.12 | ZealotOnAStick | No idea if that's a bigger drop rate for PTR, or if it's similar to how it'll be on live, or if they'll nerf it, or what. |
| 16:54.24 | keiss | WNxCryptic: basically if its a part of the addon ie. its directly in the libs directory of the addon ... |
| 16:54.28 | Recluse | WNxCryptic: the dependencies can be loaded separate or part of the addon itself |
| 16:55.16 | WNxCryptic | I undrstand the mechanics of it..but what purpose does it serve? Ace2 is only a set of libraries and that kind of thing..so you either program with it, or you don't..why make it option and have to program for BOTH? |
| 16:56.10 | dylanm | You don't understand. It's either present as embedded or unembedded, or the addon doesn't work. |
| 16:56.30 | keiss | its not optional in the sense 'this addon will work with or without it' |
| 16:57.07 | Recluse | it's optional as in how the dependency is loaded |
| 16:57.44 | WNxCryptic | ok that makes a bit more sense. |
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| 16:58.07 | dylanm | But it there is no AddOns/Ace2 directory we want to load from AddOns/AddonName/libs/Ace2. It's a user choice, which is somewhat regrettable. |
| 16:58.11 | keiss | at least in this particular case ... u can still use it for really 'optional' stuff |
| 16:59.21 | dylanm | OptionalDeps is just the only mechanism we have of saying "load this before me, but don't freak out if it isn't there." |
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| 17:00.22 | WNxCryptic | So optionaldeps add more functionality at the cost of addon size, so the author decides to make it optional so that if the user wants to saccrifice the extra space for the added functionality, they can. Right? |
| 17:00.35 | dylanm | No. That's hardly ever the case. |
| 17:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm is the author of IceHUD on IRC? |
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| 17:01.03 | WNxCryptic | dylanm so what exactly am I missing? |
| 17:01.03 | keiss | well u can use it that way , but in the case of 'OptionalDeps Ace2' thats not the intention |
| 17:01.03 | Xinhuan | he is, sometimes. |
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| 17:01.17 | WNxCryptic | keiss: ok, so what can you extrapolate is the intention? |
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| 17:02.05 | WNxCryptic | (I'm sorry for so many questions..lol) |
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| 17:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:01] <Xinhuan> he is, sometimes. <--Colors dialog breaks in RockConfig |
| 17:02.49 | keiss | WNxCryptic: as Recluse said , it basicaly means u have two choices of how to get the dependency to the addon, either embedd it (in that case the OptionalDeps wont take effect), or expect it to be available 'outside' ... i dunno how better to explain this :) |
| 17:03.33 | WNxCryptic | keiss: so either way, ace is being loaded (just as either embedded or unembedded) ? |
| 17:04.28 | keiss | WNxCryptic: thats the intention , since otherwise the addon wouldnt work (if its not embedded and its not available separately either, the code will fail at some point) |
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| 17:05.58 | WNxCryptic | keiss: ok, that being said, why would one chose to embedd a dependency rather than reference it as unembedded? |
| 17:06.39 | keiss | WNxCryptic: to make sure the user gets a bug-free version of the library maybe ? or a version that 100% works with his code anyway (not an ideal world u know ;)) |
| 17:07.17 | CIA-8 | 03elsia * r61061 10Recount/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 17:07.17 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 17:07.17 | CIA-8 | - Added Babble-Boss and Babble-Race again as Threat-1.0 needs them. |
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| 17:07.36 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:07.38 | Xinhuan | lol Elsia? |
| 17:07.49 | Elsia | :P |
| 17:07.50 | WNxCryptic | What I'm confused about is that he calls it "optionaldeps" but then has all of those Ace2 files inside a Lib folder inside the Totemus addon? |
| 17:08.06 | keiss | WNxCryptic: embedded |
| 17:08.18 | Xinhuan | then are optional because those libs can be embedded or disembedded :) |
| 17:08.58 | keiss | Elsia: Recount.lua:556 ... uses old_name , yet the function header has oldname ?!? :) |
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| 17:09.03 | _rane | does anyone know if it's possible to use ClosetGnome to switch between two offhand weapons that have the same name? |
| 17:09.05 | WNxCryptic | ..ok, we're going to let this rest for the time being :P |
| 17:09.29 | WNxCryptic | _rane: why would you want to switch between two offhands that are essentially the same? |
| 17:09.36 | _rane | different poisons |
| 17:09.36 | Killmore2 | enchant? |
| 17:09.37 | exor|zzz | enchants? |
| 17:09.51 | WNxCryptic | hmm. |
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| 17:09.54 | Poul|Raider | why did they not add to the flag of the combatlog to check what class a player was :( |
| 17:09.59 | Elsia | keiss: which version? live or branches? |
| 17:10.05 | WNxCryptic | ok, moving along.. |
| 17:10.15 | keiss | Elsia: trunk |
| 17:10.21 | Elsia | k |
| 17:10.31 | Xinhuan | umm Elsia |
| 17:10.31 | WNxCryptic | What is the # LoadOnDemand option typically found inside a .toc? |
| 17:10.31 | Xinhuan | - Added Babble-Boss and Babble-Race again as Threat-1.0 needs them. |
| 17:10.34 | Xinhuan | that makes no sense |
| 17:11.17 | Elsia | xin: why? |
| 17:11.19 | Xinhuan | if Threat-1.0 uses them, then if the user has Threat-1.0 installed, he will definitely have those 2 libraries |
| 17:11.24 | Xinhuan | you don't have to embed them yourself |
| 17:11.38 | Xinhuan | you can just get the libraries directly |
| 17:11.47 | Xinhuan | assuming threat-1.0 exists (which you will check for) |
| 17:11.53 | Elsia | xin: that's another topic, currently it's embedded... I'll change that for 2.0 but not now |
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| 17:12.02 | keiss | Xinhuan: what if threat drops the dependency ? |
| 17:12.05 | Elsia | kreiss: nice one, yet another thing that never was properly implemented ;) |
| 17:12.24 | Xinhuan | well i'm not sure how you use threat-1.0 elsia |
| 17:12.40 | Elsia | well I use it the way recount used it before I started hacking it |
| 17:12.41 | Xinhuan | do you optionally support it? or do you include threat-1.0 yourself |
| 17:12.46 | Elsia | currently it's not an optional dependency |
| 17:12.49 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 17:12.52 | keiss | Xinhuan: (mind u i dont know the affected code , but i assume Elsia needs those libs explicitly , not just because Threat needs them?) |
| 17:13.02 | Xinhuan | no keiss |
| 17:13.11 | Elsia | I plan to change that.. but not for Threat-1.0 when 2.0 is around the corner |
| 17:13.13 | Xinhuan | i assumed recount supported showing threat data optionally |
| 17:13.30 | Xinhuan | but Elsia just confirmed that recount 100% includes threat data to be shown, whether you like it or not |
| 17:13.34 | Elsia | that'll be true once I get my paws on Threat-2.0 |
| 17:13.42 | Xinhuan | even if you don't want threat in your recount, threat is running. |
| 17:13.45 | keiss | mkay |
| 17:14.06 | Elsia | recounts dependencies are a mess not in small part due to threat-1.0, can't wait to change that |
| 17:14.10 | exor674 | Xinhuan: and thats a problem why? |
| 17:14.23 | Xinhuan | i never said its a problem |
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| 17:14.36 | Recluse | what comes after foo and bar in sample values, traditionally? |
| 17:15.05 | Xinhuan | i'm just pointing out there is a difference between optionally supporting threat-1.0 (use data from it if it exists, if it doesn't, don't do anything), vs supporting it (embed the library yourself, so the user doesn't have a choice) |
| 17:15.07 | pastamancer | baz |
| 17:15.26 | WNxCryptic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.30 | Recluse | ah, i remember baz now that you mention it |
| 17:15.52 | pastamancer | after that is qux |
| 17:15.55 | CIA-8 | 03elsia * r61062 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 17:15.55 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 17:15.55 | CIA-8 | - Version tables should now be properly updated on group composition changes (thanks keiss) |
| 17:16.00 | Xinhuan | for example, xperl optionally supports LibSharedMedia if found. but xperl doesn't embed it or use it otherwise |
| 17:16.08 | keiss | baz or 'foobar' together |
| 17:16.10 | Tifi | WNxCryptic, how is that not self-explanatory? :) |
| 17:16.43 | WNxCryptic | lol...does that mean that 1 will cause the addon to load by default? |
| 17:16.49 | Recluse | 'baz' led me to the list i was lookin for w/google "metasyntactic variables" :) |
| 17:16.51 | WNxCryptic | and 0 means it has to be manually enabled? |
| 17:16.57 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r61063 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: remove workaround for 2.1 bug |
| 17:17.56 | Tifi | 0 means it's getting loaded if and only if its enabled |
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| 17:19.28 | Elsia | is there going to be a libstub roster lib any time soon? |
| 17:19.41 | Elsia | or dewdrop for that matter? |
| 17:19.55 | nevcairiel | depends what you want from a roster lib |
| 17:20.30 | Elsia | what roster lib does but not using acelibrary? ;) |
| 17:21.05 | pastamancer | rosterlib does a lot of stuff |
| 17:21.07 | nevcairiel | what do you really need from it? |
| 17:21.19 | Elsia | iterating rosters |
| 17:21.40 | nevcairiel | for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers() not good enough? ^^ |
| 17:22.07 | Elsia | well and a few other things |
| 17:22.09 | Xinhuan | elsia is a library addict :) |
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| 17:22.15 | Elsia | libraries aren't bad... |
| 17:22.21 | nevcairiel | RosterLib is a bloatlib |
| 17:22.23 | Recluse | lol |
| 17:22.25 | nevcairiel | it does way too much |
| 17:22.32 | Xinhuan | it is, when you are embedding a library to use 1 function out of the 20 it provides |
| 17:22.34 | Stanzilla | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/Grid/Ace3/LibRoster-3.0 < ? |
| 17:22.38 | Elsia | what is too much about it? |
| 17:23.09 | Elsia | i use more than 1 tbh |
| 17:23.17 | nevcairiel | alot of the stuff roster was created for can be achieved with default API calls now |
| 17:23.28 | Xinhuan | the simple fact that recount embedded threat-1.0 shows the extremity of how it thinks it should be doing everything, i had always thought the support for showing threat was optional, not forced |
| 17:23.52 | Elsia | xin: I never made that decision and it's an entirely different topic too |
| 17:24.06 | Elsia | for me the topic is how I can without breaking a massive time-effort sweat transition to ace3 |
| 17:24.12 | Xinhuan | i am aware of that, it wasn't a rude remark directed at you |
| 17:24.13 | Elsia | i.e. not quitting my day-job over it |
| 17:24.41 | Xinhuan | well, the besy way is for you to contact the author of the libs you want to see ported, and see if they want to port it |
| 17:24.48 | Elsia | currently I look at libstubbing: dewdrop, roster (or rewriting all my roster needs from scratch) and waiting for threat-2.0 |
| 17:24.53 | Xinhuan | if they do, nice, if they don't, ask for permission to port it yourself |
| 17:26.03 | Xinhuan | also i don't agree with the "waiting for threat-2.0" part |
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| 17:26.10 | Xinhuan | support for showing threat should be optional |
| 17:26.23 | Elsia | nah I have so much on my plate I definitely wait for threat-2.0 |
| 17:26.25 | keiss | GetRealZoneText always returns the english text or its localized ? |
| 17:26.28 | Xinhuan | recount in 2.4 should completely drop support for threat-1.0, since it will be non-functional |
| 17:26.33 | Elsia | if you give me 48 hour days I change my mind |
| 17:26.34 | Xinhuan | keiss - localized |
| 17:26.45 | Elsia | that's why I wait for threat-2.0 |
| 17:26.49 | keiss | th |
| 17:26.50 | keiss | x |
| 17:26.52 | Xinhuan | i don't see why you have to wait for threat2.0 |
| 17:27.04 | Xinhuan | if you're not including it in the core recount |
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| 17:27.12 | Xinhuan | when it comes out, then you add optional support |
| 17:27.25 | Elsia | but I have to extract that code and prepare it for optional use... and I want to test if I did it correctly, ergo wait for threat-2.0 |
| 17:27.38 | Elsia | I can't just drop threat-1.0 without doing any work |
| 17:27.44 | Xinhuan | but you can |
| 17:27.47 | Elsia | nah |
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| 17:27.54 | Xinhuan | users KNOW that 2.4 is huge changes |
| 17:28.08 | Elsia | so threat-2.0 will be out before 2.4 goes live, no issue at all |
| 17:28.18 | nevcairiel | threat-2.0 will be out FOR 2.4 |
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| 17:28.25 | nevcairiel | not before, not after |
| 17:28.30 | nevcairiel | well maybe shortly after :P |
| 17:28.33 | Elsia | hehe |
| 17:28.40 | Recluse | threat-1.0 will still work in 2.4, eh? |
| 17:28.45 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:28.46 | Xinhuan | Recluse - no |
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| 17:28.50 | Recluse | k |
| 17:28.53 | Elsia | well then recount has to wait... I am not going to do ace3 compat porting in stages, too much of a pain |
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| 17:29.10 | Xinhuan | i still don't understand why recount has to wait for threat-2.0 |
| 17:29.19 | nevcairiel | porting to another framework is the best time to rewrite and re-evaluate stuff |
| 17:29.21 | nevcairiel | but thats just me |
| 17:29.21 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:29.21 | Xinhuan | threat isn't even a core or crucial part of recount |
| 17:29.24 | Elsia | it doesn't have to but I don't have infinite time, that's why |
| 17:29.31 | chiper | think about it. either they're getting Recount off WAU (which auto grabs the new requirement), or they're getting it off files.wowace, which embeds Threat2.0. either way, you dont have anything to worry about |
| 17:29.45 | Xinhuan | so i don't see why you are stubborn about dropping support for it, and adding it back later |
| 17:29.48 | keiss | Elsia: he means , just drop the threat display support for now until it comes out |
| 17:29.49 | Elsia | I am not going to ditch the optional dependency, hence I do need to keep that code alive... I am not going to recode it from scratch, period. |
| 17:30.02 | Elsia | keiss: I know what he means but I don't care ;) |
| 17:30.03 | Xinhuan | you-just-comment-it-out |
| 17:30.08 | keiss | Elsia: ok :) |
| 17:30.41 | Elsia | basically I'll make changes on my terms, as if that isn't obvious ;) |
| 17:30.42 | keiss | Elsia: the thing is ... it wont work *anyway* after 2.4 .. that way at least the main part of it would work ? |
| 17:30.54 | Elsia | keiss: it works fine right now |
| 17:30.56 | Elsia | on 2.4 |
| 17:31.11 | Elsia | the thread-1.0 part is plain defunct but causes no errors currently |
| 17:31.27 | Elsia | get recount from the branches and test yourself |
| 17:31.36 | gi2k15 | So, is it really possible in patch 2.4 to distinguish the mobs with the same name? |
| 17:31.41 | keiss | i see, well i dont use recount so ... :) |
| 17:31.49 | Elsia | rather than spending time on threat-1.0 now I spend time worrying about extricating Babble-Spell |
| 17:31.54 | Elsia | much more worthwhile time spent |
| 17:32.28 | Xinhuan | meh, i'm not going to argue anymore, cryect's going to rewrite Recount2 anyway |
| 17:32.39 | Elsia | I hope so :D |
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| 17:33.08 | Elsia | xin: not sure why you worry about these things. Threat-x.0 will be optional in the not too distant future, so there isn't even a point for these arguments |
| 17:33.41 | Xinhuan | because 1 in 2 authors like to keep adding features to existing addons, until they become out of scope |
| 17:33.42 | Elsia | in fact recount will be using ace3 and will have very few dependencies (still need dewdrop) |
| 17:33.59 | Elsia | xin: that's pure abstraction ;) |
| 17:34.02 | Xinhuan | seen bongos? |
| 17:34.05 | Xinhuan | its nonsense |
| 17:34.10 | Elsia | xin: give me _one_ feature that I added to recount that's out of scope? |
| 17:34.12 | Xinhuan | it replaces the loot roll window |
| 17:34.18 | Xinhuan | it changes the minimap |
| 17:34.19 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 17:34.25 | nevcairiel | network traffic is out of scape for a dmg meter addon =P |
| 17:34.28 | nevcairiel | *scope |
| 17:34.30 | Xinhuan | i dont' really know when you took over recount |
| 17:34.30 | Elsia | that's cryect ;) |
| 17:34.35 | Xinhuan | but network traffic is one of them |
| 17:34.50 | Elsia | I didn't add that and I agree that it has no place in recount, AddonSpamFu |
| 17:34.55 | Elsia | is where it belongs |
| 17:35.00 | Xinhuan | threat is another one |
| 17:35.09 | Elsia | threat was in before I took over and I agree |
| 17:35.28 | Elsia | hence I ask, what stuff did _I_ add that is out of scope... maybe you are arguing with the wrong person here? |
| 17:35.48 | Elsia | in fact I streamlined recount and removed some bogus dependencies and modernized a few existing ones |
| 17:36.39 | Xinhuan | i apologise for the above, it was hasty |
| 17:36.47 | Elsia | no need to apologize ;) |
| 17:37.06 | Xinhuan | now umm, yeah, porting libraries |
| 17:37.20 | Xinhuan | you can help :) |
| 17:37.23 | Elsia | i really do need dewdrop unfortunately... |
| 17:37.33 | Elsia | so I'm willing to libstub that one if noone else steps forward |
| 17:37.43 | Xinhuan | i think the ace3 team is writing one |
| 17:37.52 | Elsia | that's great news |
| 17:38.04 | Xinhuan | AceConfigDropDown-3.0 |
| 17:38.11 | Xinhuan | its not written yet |
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| 17:38.26 | Elsia | but is it generic dropdowns or config-bound ones? |
| 17:38.27 | Xinhuan | but, i'm not sure whether it will be a general dropdown library |
| 17:38.31 | Xinhuan | or config bound ones |
| 17:38.41 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61064 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: |
| 17:38.41 | CIA-8 | BasicMinimap: |
| 17:38.41 | CIA-8 | - tweaks |
| 17:38.41 | CIA-8 | - clamp the tracker to the minimap for when it's moved |
| 17:38.41 | CIA-8 | - ability to change minimap stata |
| 17:39.15 | Elsia | if you write a config-bound one I'll need to port the old acelibrary dewdrop to libstub. Recount really needs dropdowns of dewdrop scope. |
| 17:40.04 | kenlyric | how basic? |
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| 17:40.14 | Xinhuan | alternatively you can do a real config screen |
| 17:40.16 | Xinhuan | and use AceGui |
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| 17:40.30 | Xinhuan | i assume recount uses standard aceopt tables for its menus? |
| 17:40.37 | Elsia | it's for selecting combats, and other window-bound specific options, quick config stuff |
| 17:40.39 | Xinhuan | and it just feeds this into dewdrop? |
| 17:40.45 | cncfanatics | what was this cannot join #wowace registration is required shit msg I just got ? |
| 17:40.52 | Xinhuan | if its just for standard quick menus |
| 17:40.56 | Elsia | don't want to send the user to a full config gui just to select between fights or select a bar view option |
| 17:41.01 | Xinhuan | you can just use the default blizzard dropdown menus |
| 17:41.10 | Xinhuan | the code for using it is very short and simple |
| 17:41.20 | Xinhuan | i can link you a sample |
| 17:41.21 | Elsia | got sample code? |
| 17:41.24 | Elsia | great |
| 17:41.24 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 17:41.46 | Elsia | i use the color selector though. |
| 17:41.47 | Funkeh` | kenlyric, you talking to me? |
| 17:42.00 | kenlyric | assuming you are funkydude, yes |
| 17:42.07 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10892.0 |
| 17:42.47 | Elsia | I'll have to check if it's a proper replacement. I kind of want the color selection for the realtime windows. |
| 17:43.00 | Xinhuan | blizzard menus can do color selectors |
| 17:43.02 | Pkekyo| | 18 spelldamage vs 1,7% spellcrit? |
| 17:43.06 | Xinhuan | what do you think the chatframe colors are? |
| 17:43.06 | Elsia | great |
| 17:43.13 | Elsia | ;) |
| 17:43.15 | Xinhuan | in the default ui ;p |
| 17:43.17 | Funkeh` | kenlyric, try it and see, I guess :) or just look a the code on the svn |
| 17:43.38 | Pkekyo| | 18 spelldamage vs 1,7% spellcrit? |
| 17:43.42 | Pkekyo| | *spam* |
| 17:43.50 | Xinhuan | i think my sample code should be quite self explanatory |
| 17:43.54 | Elsia | alright so I look at roster->blizz api and dewdrop->blizz api, hope the PTR is up long :D |
| 17:44.08 | Xinhuan | of course, the default ui dropdowns don't have fancy stuff like textbox input, sliders, etc |
| 17:44.17 | Elsia | don't need any of those |
| 17:44.27 | Elsia | just text selection and color selectors |
| 17:44.36 | Xinhuan | if its just a simple menu you need, then that's all you need |
| 17:44.42 | Elsia | cool |
| 17:44.47 | Xinhuan | don't even need to inherit from UIDropdownTemplate |
| 17:46.05 | gi2k15 | Is it possible for WAU to remove the unused libraries when running it with no-ext? |
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| 17:46.20 | Xinhuan | gi2k15, no |
| 17:46.32 | gi2k15 | Ah, too bad =( |
| 17:47.10 | gi2k15 | I'm using WAU for a long time now and I have a lot of libraries installed, but I don't know which ones I can remove or not. |
| 17:47.21 | Wogroipl | you can delete all the libraries, and then reinstall all adodns |
| 17:47.29 | Wogroipl | addons* |
| 17:47.38 | Aeyan | Pkekyo|, class? |
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| 17:47.41 | kenlyric | just make sure they're libraries :) |
| 17:47.44 | Xinhuan | or, you can go in game, disable all libraries, and login, then logout |
| 17:47.56 | Xinhuan | ace2 auto enables and loads the disabled libraries |
| 17:48.09 | nevcairiel | or just check which libs are still not loaded :3 |
| 17:48.10 | Xinhuan | only applies to ace2 libraries |
| 17:48.32 | kenlyric | I used it yesterday to see that KingoftheJungle was my only mod using PT3.0 |
| 17:48.35 | gi2k15 | Hum, guess I'll try this method when the servers are back |
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| 17:48.56 | Xinhuan | http://i32.tinypic.com/2vl6sxw.jpg |
| 17:48.57 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:49.02 | kenlyric | wau needs some kind of interface to see the dependency tree, since it stores it somewhere |
| 17:49.04 | sneg__ | hey guys, where can i find lua bitwise binary? |
| 17:49.07 | sneg__ | lua> bit |
| 17:49.07 | lua_bot | sneg__: { ["arshift"] = function: 0x8070108, ["mod"] = function: 0x8070140, ["rshift"] = function: 0x80700d0, ["bxor"] = function: 0x8070060, ["bor"] = function: 0x8070030, ["bnot"] = function: 0x806ffc0, ["lshift"] = function: 0x8070098, ["band"] = function: 0x8... (result truncated) |
| 17:49.10 | Xinhuan | it took me a while to realize that is Xperl skinned very very heavily |
| 17:49.18 | gi2k15 | Yeah, I have like PT3.0, 3.1 and so on. It's good to know if the addons are still using the old libraries. |
| 17:50.11 | Elsia | lua> bit.arseshift(0xdeadbeaf) |
| 17:50.11 | lua_bot | Elsia: [string "bit.arseshift(0xdeadbeaf)"]:1: attempt to call field 'arseshift' (a nil value) |
| 17:50.15 | Xinhuan | i don't even know which of my addons is using pt3.1 |
| 17:50.21 | Xinhuan | one of them is, i just don't know which one |
| 17:50.46 | nevcairiel | any 3.0 addon should just upgrade to 3.1 :3 |
| 17:50.47 | kenlyric | delete pt3.1 |
| 17:50.51 | kenlyric | update all addons |
| 17:51.04 | kenlyric | if it's only one, it'll be easy to spot |
| 17:51.05 | Xinhuan | i suspect its carto_instanceloot, which i'm about to nuke |
| 17:51.14 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: every mod I know of that has been updated uses it |
| 17:51.28 | nevcairiel | actually, i dont have 3.0 anymore :) |
| 17:51.32 | kenlyric | none of the pet feeding mods have been updated since june |
| 17:51.36 | Xinhuan | i don't have 3.0 either |
| 17:51.56 | nevcairiel | who neede pet feeding |
| 17:51.57 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:52.01 | kenlyric | this is why wau needs to show it :) |
| 17:52.09 | kenlyric | hunters? |
| 17:52.24 | nevcairiel | orly? |
| 17:52.32 | kenlyric | unless you know of a macro condition for "the cheapest food in my bags that will give happiness" |
| 17:52.48 | kenlyric | "that's in the smallest stack size" |
| 17:52.50 | nevcairiel | its called brain :) |
| 17:52.57 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 17:52.59 | Recluse | psh, i still have addons that use Ace1 (not sure which are the culprits). so many outdated/abandoned mods i can't live without, but they still keep chugging patch after patch |
| 17:53.02 | kenlyric | that requires like 3 steps |
| 17:53.11 | nevcairiel | Ace1 even still works? |
| 17:53.13 | Xinhuan | there are still ace1 mods? :O |
| 17:53.21 | kenlyric | open bag hit feed pet macro hit food |
| 17:53.29 | NeoTron | last ace1 addon I used was a version of sell-o-matic |
| 17:54.19 | nevcairiel | last Ace1 .. man thats ages ago |
| 17:54.33 | kenlyric | never had one |
| 17:54.54 | WNxCryptic | Gah, I'm trying to create a UI addon based off of Totemus, but the way that it loads is confusing for me (I'm still learning, obviously) would anyone mind downloading totemus and opening it up and helping me with a few things? |
| 17:55.16 | Xinhuan | us realm maintenance ;p |
| 17:55.20 | kenlyric | ace1 mods weren't included in the "updated mods" filter for wow 2.0.1 |
| 17:55.23 | Xinhuan | why do you think there's so many chatters here hehe |
| 17:55.40 | Recluse | lol |
| 17:55.56 | Recluse | at least it's down to the final hour *cross fingers* |
| 17:56.57 | Xinhuan | who wants to give suggestions for naming a "map notes" type addon? |
| 17:57.21 | Elsia | xin: got link to use of colors in UIDropDownMenu? |
| 17:57.22 | [dRaCo] | I feel innovative today, call it "MapNotes" |
| 17:57.22 | WNxCryptic | You could call it "MapNotes" |
| 17:57.27 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 17:57.32 | Xinhuan | that addon already exists |
| 17:57.32 | nevcairiel | MapNotes is already taken by like 20 addons :P |
| 17:57.34 | WNxCryptic | I said it first. Copyright WNxCryptic 2008 |
| 17:57.41 | WNxCryptic | ; ) |
| 17:57.53 | WNxCryptic | MapText ? |
| 17:57.55 | gi2k15 | Spotlight |
| 17:57.58 | Xinhuan | hmm Elsia, yes, the default UI uses it in chatframe.lua i think |
| 17:58.07 | Elsia | k, I'll check |
| 17:58.16 | Xinhuan | or if you prefer look in the UIDropDownMenu.lua |
| 17:58.21 | Xinhuan | they actually provide commented code |
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| 17:58.25 | Xinhuan | on all the allowed stuff |
| 17:58.30 | Xinhuan | in the info[] table |
| 17:58.58 | Xinhuan | you only need to specify |
| 17:59.01 | Xinhuan | info.hasColorSwatch = 1 |
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| 17:59.06 | Elsia | tnx |
| 17:59.07 | Xinhuan | info.r = [1-255] |
| 17:59.09 | Xinhuan | blah blah |
| 17:59.32 | Xinhuan | well details in UIDropDownMenu.lua in a big commented section block |
| 17:59.38 | Xinhuan | go look for it |
| 17:59.46 | wereHamster | not 0..255 ? |
| 18:00.00 | Xinhuan | probbaly accepts 0 too |
| 18:00.22 | Recluse | 2.4's going to break my dearly beloved kombatstats, i bet :/ |
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| 18:01.26 | Xinhuan | Elsia, the only thing you have to note is that setting info.title = 1 |
| 18:01.35 | Xinhuan | will indirectly set info.disabled to 1 as well |
| 18:01.54 | Xinhuan | hence the sample code nils it later |
| 18:01.56 | Elsia | info.title or info.isTitle? |
| 18:02.00 | Xinhuan | isTitle |
| 18:02.01 | WNxCryptic | in a .lua whats the syntax for block comment? |
| 18:02.06 | nevcairiel | --[[ ]] |
| 18:02.09 | Recluse | --[[ ]] |
| 18:02.10 | nevcairiel | --[[ commen there]] |
| 18:02.15 | Recluse | bah, beat me to it lol |
| 18:02.16 | keiss | --]] for end comment better ;) |
| 18:02.38 | wereHamster | why better? |
| 18:02.43 | Xinhuan | if you want a multiple level menu in UIDropdown |
| 18:02.54 | keiss | because u can just ----[[ the start of the comment and uncomment the whole block by that |
| 18:02.54 | Xinhuan | notice that the menu function takes in 1 argument called "level" |
| 18:03.15 | Xinhuan | if the level is 1, show that menu in the if-then-else part |
| 18:03.20 | Xinhuan | if the level is 2, then show another menu |
| 18:03.31 | Xinhuan | of course, you can have multiple level 2 menus |
| 18:03.35 | keiss | --[[ this is commented --]] vs. ----[[ this is live code! --]] |
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| 18:03.46 | Xinhuan | blizzard uses a global called UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_VALUE |
| 18:03.53 | Xinhuan | which you have to look up to see which level 2 menu to show |
| 18:03.58 | keiss | except u need a newline there ofc :) |
| 18:04.23 | Xinhuan | the value of this global is whatever you defined in info.value in conjuction with info.hasArrow |
| 18:04.33 | Elsia | xin: don't expect to do multi-level dropdowns. GUI research shows that anything beyond first level probably shouldn't be there in the first place ;) |
| 18:04.48 | Xinhuan | it could still be useful |
| 18:04.59 | Elsia | well I don't need it so it's cool :D |
| 18:05.05 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r61065 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 18:05.05 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:05.05 | CIA-8 | - Tradeskill: koKR Update(2.4 recipes) |
| 18:05.09 | Amadeo | Anyone play on US Rexxar? |
| 18:05.49 | WNxCryptic | Xinhuan: mind helping me for a little bit with working on a Totemus-type addon? |
| 18:06.13 | Xinhuan | yes i mind, i have my own addons to work on ;p |
| 18:06.36 | keiss | WNxCryptic: ask specific questions ... someone will eventualy/probably respond ;) |
| 18:06.57 | WNxCryptic | lol |
| 18:07.22 | WNxCryptic | keiss: thought you and grum had left me (grum may be gone..idk) and you two were helping me out the most :P |
| 18:07.23 | Primer | I can't understand why my frame text elements don't get the alpha setting on startup, but my textures do |
| 18:07.39 | keiss | WNxCryptic: iam going afk in just a few mins ;) |
| 18:07.58 | Primer | can one not set the alpha of a font string when it's hidden? |
| 18:08.20 | Xinhuan | ?_? |
| 18:08.25 | Xinhuan | you can primer |
| 18:08.35 | Primer | or perhaps not set the alpha when there's no text set? |
| 18:08.36 | Grum | WNxCryptic: i just went home ^^ |
| 18:08.47 | Xinhuan | shouldn't be the case |
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| 18:09.00 | Xinhuan | whats the issue? |
| 18:09.29 | Primer | http://sh.nu/p/24028 |
| 18:09.43 | Primer | lines 11 and 21 do nothing |
| 18:09.48 | Primer | line 31 works fine |
| 18:10.07 | Primer | that's in my addon's OnInitialize() |
| 18:10.37 | Xinhuan | self:GetHUDAlpha() <-- what does this do? |
| 18:10.50 | Primer | returns the alpha from profile |
| 18:11.32 | Xinhuan | fontstrings don't have an alpha |
| 18:11.41 | Xinhuan | :SetTextColor(0, 1, 0, alpha) |
| 18:11.45 | Xinhuan | go use that instead |
| 18:12.08 | Xinhuan | (i think) |
| 18:12.12 | Grum | yes |
| 18:12.17 | Grum | you are correct Xinhuan :) |
| 18:12.22 | Grum | or |
| 18:12.23 | Grum | humz |
| 18:12.32 | Primer | well |
| 18:12.39 | Grum | dunno because you can also do coloring inside the text |
| 18:12.48 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 18:12.49 | Primer | http://sh.nu/p/24029 |
| 18:13.02 | Xinhuan | you can do SetText("|cAARRGGBBtext|r") |
| 18:13.08 | Xinhuan | to color it whatever you want |
| 18:13.13 | Primer | I added the function that sets the alpha when I change it in rock |
| 18:13.14 | Xinhuan | notice the alpha is the first 2 hex bits |
| 18:13.53 | nevcairiel | Primer. thats because those are textures, not font strings |
| 18:14.03 | nevcairiel | alpha works on textures |
| 18:14.13 | nevcairiel | on fontstrings however, you have to control it with the text color |
| 18:14.29 | WNxCryptic | yay, Grum..Welcome back |
| 18:14.37 | Xinhuan | which is exactly what i suggested -- either use :SetTextColor(r, g, b, a) |
| 18:14.41 | Xinhuan | or use color codes |
| 18:14.44 | Grum | btw, do you need anything special to enter AQ20/40 ? |
| 18:14.46 | Xinhuan | SetText("|cAARRGGBBtext|r") |
| 18:14.48 | Grum | first time i'm going there tonight |
| 18:14.50 | Xinhuan | grum, no |
| 18:14.54 | Recluse | >.< why do authors clutter _G needlessly? |
| 18:14.57 | thul | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/202/d/e/Suspenders___3_by_inextremo.jpg < fun perspective.. :-P (not safe for work at all) |
| 18:15.05 | Grum | Recluse: because they are nubs |
| 18:15.13 | Primer | nevcairiel: note that the last 2 are font strings |
| 18:15.50 | nevcairiel | Primer: you said 11 and 21 wont work, but 31 does. 31 works with the texture, the other two with font strings |
| 18:16.10 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, he linked a second pastey |
| 18:16.10 | Primer | nevcairiel: http://sh.nu/p/24029 <-- that's what I was talking about |
| 18:16.18 | Xinhuan | he said the function below works ;p |
| 18:16.28 | WNxCryptic | Recluse: Grum: what do you mean, clutter _G ? |
| 18:16.35 | Primer | at the very bottom, there's the function I use to set the alpha when it's changed in rock |
| 18:16.47 | nevcairiel | oh then, Primer: call SetAlpha after :SetTextColor :) |
| 18:17.08 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel probably hit the nail on the head on that one |
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| 18:17.29 | Recluse | they create too many globals, essentially |
| 18:17.34 | Grum | WNxCryptic: _G is a magic table that holds all the globals (variables/functions/all) |
| 18:17.35 | Primer | btw, how do you guys test stuff when the realms are down? :) |
| 18:17.44 | nevcairiel | we dont |
| 18:17.46 | kergoth | "magic"? |
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| 18:17.52 | Recluse | :p |
| 18:17.54 | Primer | wouldn't a private server work though? |
| 18:18.02 | nevcairiel | for simple lua-specific stuff, there is always console lua |
| 18:18.08 | nevcairiel | then there are PTRs |
| 18:18.09 | Grum | so whenever you want to address: "MadeUpFrameName" .. 1 (concat of the 2 files) you can just look it up in that table |
| 18:18.17 | nevcairiel | then there is sleep for the short period of maintenance :P |
| 18:18.27 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 18:18.32 | kadrahil | and real-life things |
| 18:18.39 | Grum | s/of the 2 files/of the 2 strings/ |
| 18:18.42 | Primer | real life? what's that? |
| 18:18.58 | Recluse | i was going to try out this BGDefender (something i'd been wanting for a while), but popped the hood and sure enough - global after global |
| 18:19.01 | Grum | i have to make a mod called IRL :P |
| 18:19.09 | Grum | then at least everyone can say he/she has it |
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| 18:21.14 | Pkekyo| | L |
| 18:21.15 | Pkekyo| | M |
| 18:21.16 | Pkekyo| | F |
| 18:21.17 | Pkekyo| | A |
| 18:21.17 | Pkekyo| | O |
| 18:21.18 | Pkekyo| | I buffed some guy with arcane intellect, and then the guards in Area 52 killed us both |
| 18:21.26 | kergoth | .. |
| 18:21.27 | Recluse | lol |
| 18:21.36 | Pkekyo| | TWICE |
| 18:21.36 | nevcairiel | maybe he just recently attacked horde |
| 18:21.43 | Pkekyo| | he IS horde |
| 18:21.53 | Pkekyo| | and he hadn't attacked anyone recently, no |
| 18:21.55 | nevcairiel | s/horde/alliance/ |
| 18:22.08 | Amadeo | I'd attack you if I were a guard, too! |
| 18:22.13 | Pkekyo| | after they were finished ganking us, I ran away, then the guards rekilled him the seccond he ressed |
| 18:22.32 | mort | i don't see a problem there if you are horde ;) |
| 18:22.34 | Primer | for the alliance! |
| 18:23.14 | Pkekyo| | mort: the guards ganked us both because I buffed him with +int >.< |
| 18:23.24 | Primer | I really love how wowarmory's AJAX bullshit is able to completely hang firefox on network I/O |
| 18:23.43 | mort | as i said, you are horde, i don't see the problem :P |
| 18:24.14 | Zariel | wowarmory needs optimizing :E |
| 18:24.58 | Pkekyo| | mort: diaf |
| 18:25.37 | thul | Pkekyo|: kill a postman for me |
| 18:25.38 | thul | now |
| 18:26.03 | mort | :( |
| 18:26.10 | Primer | Does the 2 set bonus happen for 2 of dreadweave and 2 of felweave? People tell me it doesn't, yet when I inspect people, it shows the 2 set bonus when they have 2 of each |
| 18:26.10 | WNxCryptic | Grum: you still here? |
| 18:26.29 | dylanm | Primer: It definitely works, yes. |
| 18:26.38 | nevcairiel | didnt they change that? |
| 18:26.57 | Grum | a bit WNxCryptic:P |
| 18:27.01 | Primer | that's what people keep telling me |
| 18:27.12 | nevcairiel | ya its working |
| 18:27.19 | nevcairiel | didnt know they renamed warlock sets |
| 18:27.22 | WNxCryptic | Grum: with Totemus, there is an "outer shell" of an addon called Sphere (which calls Totemus if the player's class is Shaman). But my addon is only going to be for shamans and I'm confused on how to integrate this sphere into my code (or at least re-code it using the sphere as a basis) |
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| 18:28.21 | Grum | WNxCryptic: why not write it from scratch? |
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| 18:28.54 | Grum | and I dont know Sphere so i cant really help you with that |
| 18:30.12 | WNxCryptic | Grum: ok, that's just as easy, I suppose..just having a hard time on where to go from here (you're right...a tough learning curve) |
| 18:30.24 | Pkekyo| | thul: lolswut |
| 18:30.44 | WNxCryptic | Grum: let me ask you this (this is something the others were trying to explain to me earlier)...What advantage does using Ace have other than just using the API functions and whatnot? |
| 18:31.55 | Ozguli | WNxCryptic the name |
| 18:32.10 | WNxCryptic | lol..seriously... |
| 18:32.22 | Ozguli | well it's a marketing thing but anyway |
| 18:32.42 | Grum | WNxCryptic: its updated faster than you update your own framework |
| 18:32.56 | Grum | you need to know a bit less about the 'gory details' .. and the name as stated before |
| 18:33.11 | thul | Pkekyo|: posten er så treig |
| 18:36.04 | Killmore2 | I think this guy need to use bar instead :P http://files.filefront.com/illibadavi/;9587642;/fileinfo.html |
| 18:37.11 | Ellipsis | thul: no u? |
| 18:37.44 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 18:39.37 | WNxCryptic | Grum: do you think it would be more prudent (since I'm basing this off of Totemus) to go ahead and get all the graphics/XML file done? (By the way, the xml file is where you actually setup how the UI looks for that particular addon, right?) |
| 18:39.50 | Grum | no |
| 18:39.53 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r61066 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0/: |
| 18:39.53 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 18:39.53 | CIA-8 | - Remove the deprecated sub folder. |
| 18:39.57 | Grum | you that in lua nowadays |
| 18:40.00 | Grum | you dont even look at xml |
| 18:40.04 | kenlyric | any new pets on the island to tame? I didn't even look when I was on. |
| 18:40.13 | Elsia | is there a smart way to get the UIDropDownMenu to attach on another side of the parent frame? or is one stuck using offsets? |
| 18:40.19 | Grum | people doing that in xml pollute teh global name space madly |
| 18:40.21 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.34 | WNxCryptic | Grum: so what should the XML contain, then? |
| 18:40.54 | Grum | nothing |
| 18:40.57 | Grum | you should not have em |
| 18:41.13 | Grum | yes how blizzard it does is the wrong way :D |
| 18:41.18 | Aiiane_ | Grum / Xinhuan - what would the chances be of adding slash commands to turn on/off waypoints in Cartographer_Routes anytime soon? :) |
| 18:41.31 | Grum | never |
| 18:41.33 | Grum | use Routes |
| 18:41.43 | Grum | ^^ |
| 18:41.47 | WNxCryptic | Grum: ok, so no .xmls, how is it accomplished through the .lua? |
| 18:41.59 | Grum | WNxCryptic: look at other addons, CreateFrame( .. ) |
| 18:42.13 | Xinhuan | elsia, the ToggleDropdownMenu() call |
| 18:42.27 | Xinhuan | one of the arguments is to specify which frame to parent it to |
| 18:42.32 | Xinhuan | and a x,y offset |
| 18:42.58 | Xinhuan | there is a more complicated approach |
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| 18:43.02 | Xinhuan | that has more control |
| 18:43.17 | Aiiane_ | Grum: I would if I had any idea what you were referring to, but as-is that answer doesnt help much :) |
| 18:43.17 | xbeeps | quick question: is LibDogTag-2.0 a drop-in replacement for DogTag-1.0 ? |
| 18:43.50 | Grum | Aiiane_: stop using Cartographer_Routes, use 'Routes' (new addon, does the same and more and can use Cartographer without a problem) |
| 18:43.52 | Elsia | xin: alright, calculating offsets, used the anchor to parent already, but by default it attaches at bottom right which isn't where I want it |
| 18:43.54 | kenlyric | why would a spot on gathermate show Gold or Mithril?, or Gold only. Isn't gold always a spawn on an iron node? |
| 18:43.54 | Elsia | no biggie |
| 18:43.55 | Grum | supports GatherMate and Gathere as well |
| 18:43.58 | Xinhuan | elsia in the example code |
| 18:44.04 | Xinhuan | i gave this |
| 18:44.04 | Xinhuan | ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, WoWEquip_TalentsDropDownMenu, self, 0, 0); |
| 18:44.06 | Xinhuan | correct? |
| 18:44.13 | Xinhuan | if you want more control then |
| 18:44.22 | Xinhuan | you want to do this instead |
| 18:44.22 | kenlyric | and when I went to the actual node, it was mithril |
| 18:44.24 | Aiiane_ | Grum: Okay thanks, that's a bit more helpful :) |
| 18:44.32 | Xinhuan | i'll pastey it |
| 18:44.48 | Grum | you do need to regenerate your routes however |
| 18:44.50 | Grum | so you loose 5 minutes |
| 18:45.06 | kagaro | kenlyric: once you find an iron it will replace the gold at that spo |
| 18:45.07 | Elsia | ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, Recount_ColorDropDownMenu, WhichWindow, 0, WhichWindow:GetHeight()) |
| 18:45.11 | Xinhuan | elsia |
| 18:45.12 | Xinhuan | http://www.pastey.net/82096 |
| 18:45.14 | chiper | ken: probably the last time it was logged into wowhead it was a gold item |
| 18:45.18 | Aiiane_ | constants dont affect big-O, I could care less about that Grum :P |
| 18:45.19 | Elsia | basically I want to replace 0 with the width of the dropdown frame |
| 18:45.21 | kenlyric | kagaro: so it is supposed to show iron where there is iron and gold? |
| 18:45.32 | kenlyric | because right now it doesn't do that, or wowhead data is really off. |
| 18:45.32 | Xinhuan | basically, you use the commented out parts instead |
| 18:45.38 | Xinhuan | of the non-commented out parts |
| 18:45.55 | kagaro | kenlyric: once mined it will nuke the nearby rares |
| 18:45.58 | kenlyric | half the nodes in STV are showing as gold, even though there's gold and iron listed in the mouseover |
| 18:46.04 | Xinhuan | that should give you more positioning control |
| 18:46.07 | Elsia | xin: got it |
| 18:46.09 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: does Routes queue/ignore added/deleted noutes for the route it's currently optimizing yet or does it just silently fail like before? |
| 18:46.23 | kenlyric | is it possible the data import isn't doing this properly kagaro? |
| 18:46.24 | kagaro | kenlyric: run a databse cleanup, the data coming from wowhead is messed somewhat |
| 18:46.26 | Xinhuan | fail silently |
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| 18:46.28 | kenlyric | oh, ok |
| 18:46.45 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: /whine and /complain ;-) |
| 18:46.46 | Xinhuan | when you do a background optimization, TSP copied all the data it needs to work on internally |
| 18:47.01 | Xinhuan | any changes you do to the route while its optimizing, doesn't affect the optimizing |
| 18:47.02 | kenlyric | man, those won't up all at once |
| 18:47.10 | Xinhuan | so badluck there |
| 18:47.13 | NeoTron | with fail silently I mean the Cart_Routes thing where the routes ended up completely fucked up |
| 18:47.15 | kenlyric | *went |
| 18:47.20 | kagaro | kenlyric: node locations fmor wowhead are a little off |
| 18:47.27 | NeoTron | if it actually successfully works tht's fine |
| 18:47.31 | WNxCryptic | What is "Metrognome" ? |
| 18:47.34 | NeoTron | that's "ignore" and an acceptable solution |
| 18:47.34 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't do that anymore |
| 18:47.40 | NeoTron | I rarely find new nodes |
| 18:47.44 | Xinhuan | i copy the entire data |
| 18:47.48 | Xinhuan | to be optimized |
| 18:47.48 | kenlyric | WNxCryptic: you don't have anything that uses it |
| 18:47.54 | NeoTron | that's good. so I consider it fixed |
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| 18:47.55 | kenlyric | WNxCryptic: Ace1 timer mod |
| 18:47.56 | Xinhuan | and return a brand new table |
| 18:48.02 | kenlyric | last thing that used it was the fishing mod |
| 18:48.03 | Xinhuan | so the old one gets ditched to GC |
| 18:48.06 | NeoTron | Xinhuan++ |
| 18:48.18 | Xinhuan | i don't even attempt to do table recycling there, since optimizing already uses heaps of ram |
| 18:48.19 | kenlyric | FishingAce or something |
| 18:48.31 | WNxCryptic | Is there any way to handle timers with Ace2 in the default libraries? |
| 18:48.55 | Killmore2 | how much spellhaste do you need to get 1sec GCD ? |
| 18:49.07 | kenlyric | well, there's an update fishing addon, so I suppose so |
| 18:49.10 | NeoTron | Killmore2: like 750-800ish |
| 18:49.24 | kenlyric | I need a way to get config buttons on my fubar for mods that don't have them. |
| 18:49.40 | kenlyric | hate going through three steps to get at mods I'm updating constantly |
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| 18:49.56 | mort | too much for rolling 6 life bloom stacks *g* |
| 18:51.21 | kenlyric | kagaro: thanks for the tip, that helped. |
| 18:51.49 | kenlyric | I should probably set my _data update to "Merge" |
| 18:51.54 | kagaro | you should see the output from the script when it runs, it get a lot of nodes clobering each other form the wowhead db |
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| 18:53.01 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61067 10BasicMinimap/ (6 files in 3 dirs): BasicMinimap: Localized, translators feel free. |
| 18:53.06 | kenlyric | now, giev fiubar plugin, go! |
| 18:53.31 | WNxCryptic | anyone? Timer for Ace2? |
| 18:53.53 | kenlyric | actually, I need one for routes more than gathermate. since I'm constantly inside that one. |
| 18:54.32 | Zenom | is there an ace updater for macs? :) |
| 18:55.07 | Zenom | or public svn access to download the mods |
| 18:55.36 | chiper | there's a java based one that runs on macs |
| 18:55.51 | Polarina | I hate people that ask for an addon to do something when their description matches exactly to on of the features that is implemented in the default UI... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493774865&sid=1 |
| 18:55.53 | vhaarr | WNxCryptic: AceEvent-2.0 |
| 18:56.13 | Polarina | s/on/one/ |
| 18:56.34 | Polarina | *sigh* |
| 18:57.24 | Zenom | chiper: url? |
| 18:57.38 | chiper | Zenom: no idea, I saw it posted here once |
| 18:58.38 | CIA-8 | 03elsia * r61068 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 18:58.38 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 18:58.38 | CIA-8 | - Fixed nil bug if VerTable is empty. |
| 18:58.48 | chiper | Polarina: the default ui does that? |
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| 18:59.10 | Aiiane_ | Hmm.... okay, Grum, I switched over to Routes, but I can't seem to find slash commands for it either :| |
| 18:59.16 | kenlyric | defautl castbars show the spell icon? |
| 18:59.32 | kenlyric | I have to admit I've never seen default castbars, but I didn't expect spell icon |
| 18:59.43 | WNxCryptic | Gahhhhhh I have no idea where to start...this is aggrivating. :( |
| 18:59.51 | chiper | well it sounds like that person is asking for party member cast bars |
| 18:59.59 | chiper | or party cast announce |
| 19:00.17 | Polarina | chiper: Yes. |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-8 | 03cinedelle * r61069 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (SickOfClickingDailies.toc localization-frFR.lua): |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-8 | - Added French localization file + toc update |
| 19:01.23 | Grum | Aiiane_: it has none |
| 19:01.25 | Grum | but now you can ask for it ^^ |
| 19:01.26 | kenlyric | WNxCryptic: I used to be in your position |
| 19:01.29 | Aiiane_ | >.< |
| 19:01.32 | WNxCryptic | lol... |
| 19:01.36 | kenlyric | then I gave up and somebody wrote the mod I wanted :) |
| 19:01.36 | Grum | and we might even code it |
| 19:01.51 | WNxCryptic | is there any simple UI that I can use as a learning template? |
| 19:01.56 | WNxCryptic | er, not simple UI |
| 19:02.02 | Aiiane_ | wtb ace3 automatically creating slash commands corresponding to the options tree >.> |
| 19:02.10 | Primer | I'm a bit confused regarding RegisterForDrag. I'm supposed to register that for the frame object, but how do I associate that to the addon object's OnDragStart event handler? |
| 19:02.11 | chiper | Polarina: yes what? |
| 19:02.12 | Grum | it should do that Aiiane_ |
| 19:02.14 | WNxCryptic | like a simple UI modification or other addon that I can learn from |
| 19:02.27 | kenlyric | they still won't add seals to SimpleSelfRebuff, but I keep trying. |
| 19:02.28 | Polarina | chiper: The default UI has that feature. |
| 19:02.29 | Grum | mmm |
| 19:02.31 | Aiiane_ | Grum: I'm looking at the options tree for the Waypoints module of Routes, but what it has there doesn't do anything |
| 19:02.41 | Primer | or must I explicitly set the OnDragStart event handler for the frame object after RegisterForDrag? |
| 19:02.49 | Aiiane_ | shows up fine in gui config but doesn't do anything on the slash |
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| 19:03.31 | Antiarc | Elsia: FWIW, the API isn't going to change a whole lot from Threat-1.0 to 2.0 |
| 19:03.47 | Antiarc | The biggest change will be that it now takes GUIDs instead of unit names |
| 19:03.52 | Josh_Borke | Primer: local f = CreateFrame"Frame"; f:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton"); f:Setscript("OnDragStart", function (...) ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Shit happened") end) |
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| 19:05.10 | Primer | Josh_Borke: awesome, thanks |
| 19:05.17 | chiper | Polarina: where? I have never seen options in the default ui to flash what spell my party members are casting |
| 19:05.59 | Polarina | chiper: Interface Options. |
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| 19:06.25 | Josh_Borke | Primer: local f = CreateFrame"Frame"; f:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton"); f:Setscript("OnDragStart", function (self, ...) self:StartMoving() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Shit happened") end) |
| 19:06.32 | Josh_Borke | primer: the startmoving MAY or MAY NOT be needed |
| 19:06.38 | Josh_Borke | i simply cannot recall |
| 19:07.14 | Zenom | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 19:07.15 | chiper | are you talking about the scrolling combat text? |
| 19:07.21 | Zenom | is that the java update client? |
| 19:07.25 | Polarina | chiper: No! |
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| 19:07.53 | WNxCryptic | Where can I find a description of each library in Ace2? (Console, Event, DB, etc.) |
| 19:08.10 | chiper | then wtf are you talking about? stop being so vague |
| 19:08.12 | keiss | http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:API_Documentation ? |
| 19:08.18 | Pkekyo| | 4 spelldmg vs. 0,34% spellcrit? |
| 19:09.12 | Elsia | anti: great to know |
| 19:09.21 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: hello :p |
| 19:09.49 | Polarina | chiper: Stop being so dump and check it out for yourself! |
| 19:09.50 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke: I'm pretty sure it is |
| 19:09.57 | Primer | Josh_Borke: Only problem now is that it seems my frame has nothing to grab on to |
| 19:10.20 | Primer | I wonder if that's because I only have overlay textures on it, or because its strata is low |
| 19:11.18 | chiper | I'm at work, I dont have the luxery of playing WoW all day long |
| 19:11.42 | Primer | Is there a known 1 pixel transparent tga? |
| 19:11.51 | Primer | chiper: I'm at work too, but I'm not letting that stop me :) |
| 19:12.09 | chiper | heh |
| 19:12.16 | chiper | I'm quite sure they'd fire me here |
| 19:13.11 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: hai2u |
| 19:14.07 | WNxCryptic | rofl..alright, I have the shells of "OnInitialize", "OnEnable" and "OnDisable" created! (now to go search around for another half an hour before I make any more, tiny bit of progress) :) |
| 19:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | why the fuck |
| 19:14.41 | Zenom | is there an swstats ace alternative? |
| 19:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | can't i asign single BoS and BoW in pallypower? |
| 19:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | who ever is responsible for that needs to hang |
| 19:15.14 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 19:15.24 | chiper | zenom: recount |
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| 19:17.48 | Zenom | ok and what about auctioneer |
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| 19:18.10 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:18.10 | CIA-8 | - zhTW update |
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| 19:18.37 | Aiiane_ | Hmm... only other downside of using Routes.... no automatic node addition for newly discovered nodes :| |
| 19:19.02 | NivFreak | to the route you mean? |
| 19:19.06 | Aiiane_ | yes |
| 19:19.07 | chiper | Zenom: none that I know of, I think Auctioneer is still king of that mountain |
| 19:19.13 | Zenom | ah ok |
| 19:19.28 | Primer | so must my frame have something specific to grab on to to allow it to be draggable? |
| 19:19.33 | keiss | Zenom: kc_items partially |
| 19:19.41 | Aiiane_ | Zenom: but AuctioneerAdvanced is definitely nice |
| 19:19.45 | Primer | I was thinking perhaps I needed to have a texture in the "ARTWORK" area |
| 19:20.05 | Primer | perhaps a 1 pixel transparent image? |
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| 19:20.15 | Primer | stretched across the entire frame, of course |
| 19:20.39 | kenlyric | don't newly discover nodes |
| 19:21.01 | Xinhuan | [2/13 03:18:34] <Aiiane_> Hmm... only other downside of using Routes.... no automatic node addition for newly discovered nodes :| |
| 19:21.04 | Xinhuan | uh? |
| 19:21.05 | NivFreak | I hope NECB is ready by the time 2.4 is out |
| 19:21.08 | NivFreak | I might die without it :) |
| 19:21.10 | Xinhuan | it does that automatically |
| 19:21.13 | Xinhuan | unless you disabled it |
| 19:21.20 | Antiarc | I heard somewhere that the NECB author quit wow? |
| 19:21.21 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: sounds like the issue I had |
| 19:21.25 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: Cartographer_Routes did, Routes doesnt seem to |
| 19:21.25 | keiss | afaik at least cart_routes does it , id assume routes does to |
| 19:21.31 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I haven't tried it since I got updated versions though |
| 19:21.32 | Xinhuan | Routes does it |
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| 19:21.40 | Xinhuan | what addon are you using as your node data? |
| 19:21.59 | Aiiane_ | Cartographer's professions |
| 19:22.09 | WNxCryptic | Is there any tutorial on adding a button/putting a spell behind that button ??? |
| 19:22.19 | Xinhuan | it should add nodes automatically just like in carto_routes |
| 19:22.27 | Xinhuan | did you disable auto adding? |
| 19:22.34 | Xinhuan | check your Routes->Routes config |
| 19:22.40 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: I haven't changed any of the default settings yet |
| 19:22.54 | Xinhuan | well go check it anyway |
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| 19:23.29 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: At the Routes config screen, which section |
| 19:23.34 | Xinhuan | Routes |
| 19:23.54 | Aiiane_ | yep, im there... Cartographer is the only non-greyed checkbox (as expected), and it's checked |
| 19:24.31 | Primer | Is there a known 1 pixel transparent image I could reference directly to create a texture? To test something |
| 19:24.58 | Xinhuan | are you sure routes isn't updating your routes automatically as you herb stuff? |
| 19:25.06 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: Yes |
| 19:25.08 | Primer | I guess I could make one, just lazy at the moment |
| 19:25.09 | Aiiane_ | Quite sure |
| 19:25.09 | Xinhuan | what professions are you using |
| 19:25.12 | Aiiane_ | Herbalism |
| 19:25.15 | Aiiane_ | that's all atm |
| 19:25.31 | Xinhuan | which version of cartographer |
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| 19:25.43 | Aiiane_ | updated no more than a day or two ago |
| 19:25.51 | Aiiane_ | give me a sec and ill check the revid |
| 19:25.52 | Xinhuan | by version, i mean rock or ace2 version |
| 19:25.56 | Aiiane_ | oh, ace2 |
| 19:26.04 | Aiiane_ | afaik |
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| 19:26.27 | Xinhuan | why are you using ace2 version |
| 19:26.48 | Xinhuan | i tested it to work with rock version, i never tested the ace2 portion btw |
| 19:26.48 | Aiiane_ | Probably because I wasn't aware there are multiple versions? Not all of us are addon gurus.... |
| 19:26.58 | Aiiane_ | I've never heard of a "rock" version |
| 19:27.04 | Ellipsis | Cartographer is the Rock version |
| 19:27.09 | Ellipsis | Cartographer1 is the Ace2 version |
| 19:27.18 | Xinhuan | well did you install the addon called "Cartographer" which is Rock version, or "Cartographer1" which is Ace2 version |
| 19:27.20 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I never got to test it but in my case, GatherMate was missing nodes and didn't update when I gathered.. need to test that sometime - maybe tonight |
| 19:27.37 | chiper | oh, that's what Cartographer1 is |
| 19:27.41 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r61071 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:27.41 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:27.41 | CIA-8 | - Tier 6 update |
| 19:27.42 | CIA-8 | 03ckknight * r61072 10LibMobHealth-4.0/ (LibMobHealth-4.0.lua LibMobHealth-4.0.toc): LibMobHealth-4.0 - add slash command options to saving and pruning, accessed by /lmh, /lmh4, /libmobhealth, /libmobhealth4. Only shows up if using LibMobHealth-4.0 as its own addon |
| 19:28.08 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r61073 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 19:28.08 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:28.08 | CIA-8 | - Sunwell update |
| 19:28.09 | Aiiane_ | ok, then it's the rock version |
| 19:28.10 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r61074 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 19:28.10 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 19:28.11 | CIA-8 | - Tier 6 update |
| 19:28.42 | Xinhuan | is your herb database in cartographer updating then? |
| 19:28.51 | Aiiane_ | yes |
| 19:29.01 | Aiiane_ | the nodes show up on the map and minimap |
| 19:29.07 | Pkekyo| | three druids just got themselves killed by Area 52 guards whilst trying to gank me ^^ |
| 19:29.08 | Aiiane_ | but they don't get added to the route |
| 19:29.16 | NeoTron | lol |
| 19:29.18 | NeoTron | just lol |
| 19:29.19 | Xinhuan | as in its a new node right? |
| 19:29.23 | Aiiane_ | yes Xinhuan |
| 19:29.24 | NeoTron | Brutallus is enslavable! http://www.wowwiki.com/images/7/75/Brutallus_Enslaved.jpg |
| 19:29.28 | Xinhuan | what herb is that node |
| 19:29.37 | nevcairiel | old news NeoTron, and probalby fixed soon :P |
| 19:29.46 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I'm sure it'll be fixed |
| 19:29.47 | Aiiane_ | I've been in terokkar, I've had both Felweed and Terocone nodes do it so far |
| 19:29.50 | FinalX | NeoTron: lol |
| 19:29.51 | Ellipsis | holy hax, I need to go do that |
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| 19:29.55 | Xinhuan | and did you include that herb in the route when you created it? |
| 19:30.21 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: yes |
| 19:30.26 | Aiiane_ | both of them |
| 19:30.31 | Xinhuan | what herb is it? |
| 19:30.39 | Aiiane_ | I've been in terokkar, I've had both Felweed and Terocone nodes do it so far |
| 19:30.41 | Aiiane_ | ^^ that |
| 19:30.43 | Xinhuan | is the route clustered? |
| 19:30.46 | Aiiane_ | yes |
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| 19:31.05 | Aiiane_ | the nodes are well away from any current clusters though |
| 19:31.16 | Aiiane_ | *the new nodes |
| 19:31.29 | Aiiane_ | i specifically went looking for ones not near clusters to check when i thought it was acting up |
| 19:31.32 | WNxCryptic | Grum: is there a tutorial on making a button (without the use of .xml) and adding a spell to that button? |
| 19:31.41 | chiper | NeoTron: gotta give props to the guy who had the balls to try that |
| 19:31.44 | Grum | no |
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| 19:31.58 | WNxCryptic | Grum... |
| 19:31.59 | WNxCryptic | lol |
| 19:32.27 | NeoTron | they should add encounters that require you to enslave stuff though, tha'd be fun for the locks |
| 19:32.41 | Aiiane_ | NeoTron: High King Maulgar |
| 19:32.56 | Aiiane_ | a.k.a. the ultimate gimmick fight of outland |
| 19:33.08 | chiper | neo: unless you, for some reason, dont have a lock in the group. then it would suck |
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| 19:33.32 | Fisker- | zomg 43% |
| 19:36.35 | Hell-Razor | can anybody please recommend a very minimal ui? |
| 19:36.44 | Twist- | Hell-Razor: alt-z |
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| 19:36.48 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzard default |
| 19:37.01 | Hell-Razor | Twist-, thats no fun |
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| 19:37.21 | Hell-Razor | NightHawkTheSane, the normal ui is not user friendly enough.. sorry i should have said that earlier |
| 19:37.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you didn't say user friendly, or fun. :P |
| 19:37.32 | Twist- | I use bongos, and pitbull with a lot of the features disabled |
| 19:37.41 | Xinhuan | Aiiane_, can you try recreating the route? |
| 19:37.49 | Xinhuan | that you said is not inserting nodes |
| 19:37.56 | Tuller | tuba |
| 19:38.06 | Twist- | and that's really about it for mods that put persitent objects on my screen. |
| 19:38.25 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: sure, give me a sec tho |
| 19:38.27 | Aiiane_ | in the middle of a daily |
| 19:38.45 | Xinhuan | when did you create this route btw |
| 19:39.01 | Xinhuan | and what language client |
| 19:39.03 | Aiiane_ | right after my convo with Grum above about installing Routes instead of Carto_Routes |
| 19:39.09 | Aiiane_ | standard US english client |
| 19:39.19 | Aiiane_ | (live) |
| 19:39.21 | Xinhuan | because, i'm unable to reproduce your issue |
| 19:39.28 | Xinhuan | my felweeds are updated correctly |
| 19:39.35 | Xinhuan | in both routes and carto_herb |
| 19:40.31 | Xinhuan | also go to the route in terrokar you have |
| 19:40.43 | Xinhuan | what nodes does it say the route contains? |
| 19:40.47 | Aiiane_ | sec |
| 19:40.54 | Aiiane_ | and Xinhuan, this was for both terocone and felweed |
| 19:40.56 | Aiiane_ | not just one type |
| 19:41.05 | Xinhuan | yes, i'm aware |
| 19:41.12 | Xinhuan | the information should tell you something like |
| 19:41.19 | Xinhuan | "this route has nodes that belong to ... herbalism" |
| 19:41.20 | Grum | what cartographer do you have? the old version? 'cartographer1' i think |
| 19:41.27 | Aiiane_ | recreating, reclustering, and reoptimizing adds the nodes that were previously not in the route |
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| 19:41.34 | Xinhuan | "this route contains the following nodes..." |
| 19:41.35 | Aiiane_ | Grum, Xinhuan already asked that, i have "Cartographer" (no 1) |
| 19:41.42 | Xinhuan | what does it say |
| 19:41.53 | Aiiane_ | Just Herbalism, Xinhuan |
| 19:42.03 | Xinhuan | yes the line right below that |
| 19:42.04 | Xinhuan | what does it say |
| 19:42.05 | Aiiane_ | and then Felweed/Dreaming Glory/Terocone/Mana Thistle |
| 19:42.23 | RaydenU | one method of governing a gulid is ninjarchy |
| 19:42.37 | Melador_ | is there a good thread or place to check for 2.4 updates to Parser/Recount/Omen/etc? |
| 19:42.43 | Xinhuan | sounds bugged |
| 19:42.59 | Aiiane_ | going to go see if i can find another new node, Xinhuan |
| 19:43.05 | Xinhuan | recreate the route |
| 19:43.11 | Aiiane_ | did that |
| 19:43.12 | Xinhuan | and possibly reloadui |
| 19:43.18 | Antiarc | This channel, Melador_ :P |
| 19:43.41 | Aiiane_ | will try to find another node to see if its working now, if not ill reloadui and try to find a 2nd |
| 19:44.27 | Melador_ | heh okay, I'm just happy to test/bug report, I'll be spending quite a bit of time raiding on the ptr probably, and I didn't know if there were even any beta ptr versions of anything yet |
| 19:44.33 | WNxCryptic | What does "mixin" do? |
| 19:45.04 | Aiiane_ | hm, updated that time Xinhuan, must have been glitched I guess :/ |
| 19:45.10 | Aiiane_ | wts ghosts in the machine? |
| 19:45.17 | Grum | bitrot! |
| 19:45.19 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 19:45.38 | Aiiane_ | lol Grum |
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| 19:49.23 | NeoTron | http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=34627 |
| 19:49.27 | NeoTron | Heavy Tonk Armor! |
| 19:50.27 | Primer | Any thoughts on why I can't drag my frame? I'm guessing that it's missing some element that allows for dragging |
| 19:50.38 | Primer | as of now I only have overlay textures and font strings |
| 19:50.45 | sag_ich_nicht | who is the author of pallypower and is he here? |
| 19:50.53 | sag_ich_nicht | singlebuffing is fucking up |
| 19:51.16 | Primer | even though I can clearly see it in the middle of the screen, and I have RegisterForDrag set, and an OnDragStart event handler for the frame, nothing happens |
| 19:52.42 | Cheads | uhmm anyone remember a mob that casts a disease..(need to test something) |
| 19:52.45 | Xinhuan | Aiiane_, more details for you, if its a clustered route, when i try to insert a new node, it tries to insert it into an existing cluster first :) |
| 19:52.54 | Xinhuan | then that centroid gets updated |
| 19:53.10 | Aiiane_ | i would figured as much, but these were literally 400+yd from the nearest cluster |
| 19:53.17 | kagaro | Melador_: did you get a bunch of guildies over? I cant seem to fnd a raid with my priest on the ptr |
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| 19:53.27 | Xinhuan | if it can't i just insert it as a new cluster as itself |
| 19:53.41 | Melador_ | yeah we pretty much have a full raid |
| 19:53.44 | Xinhuan | i suggest you migrate to GatherMate btw ;p |
| 19:53.49 | Xinhuan | instead of carto_herb |
| 19:53.54 | Hell-Razor | anybody know if theres a way to disable the lines that link things together in pitbull (or might this just be a bug?) |
| 19:54.07 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: I don't like switching addons every 2 weeks |
| 19:54.08 | Melador_ | it's not very optimal, and we have no guildbank yet, and we scrounged for a slot or two |
| 19:54.18 | Aiiane_ | And seriously, that seems to be what has been happening sometimes |
| 19:54.22 | Xinhuan | well, i'm just recommending it |
| 19:54.26 | kagaro | wtb sunwell raid spot for a spriest |
| 19:54.29 | Xinhuan | because i wrote it ;p |
| 19:54.30 | chiper | Cheads: I think the wolves in felwood give you rabies |
| 19:54.34 | NeoTron | one of the guys at my work is in Vis Maior |
| 19:54.39 | Cheads | ok thanks |
| 19:54.44 | NeoTron | quite excited about their 3-first kills |
| 19:54.57 | NeoTron | and word on the street is that boss 1/2 are good, and boss 3 is buggy |
| 19:55.12 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: document it well and I might consider it :P |
| 19:55.12 | Primer | in where? |
| 19:55.17 | kagaro | !c us ysera moonfann |
| 19:55.20 | ThraeBot | kagaro: Moonfann, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 8361 HP; 10005 Mana; 211 mana regen; 63 mp5; 171 spell crit; 56 spell hit; 905 +spell dmg; 882 +heal; 233 frost dmg (1138); 339 shadow dmg (1244); 5.66% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1129 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw6wx4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38lh7j ][ Updated: Tue Feb 12 15:04:24 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:55.25 | Xinhuan | is a forum thread good though? |
| 19:55.30 | NeoTron | Primer: if you asked me, Sunwell raid |
| 19:55.33 | Cheads | doesn't slimes often have some disease they 'cast' also? |
| 19:55.47 | Primer | NeoTron: and _that_ is...? |
| 19:55.59 | Primer | some new content? |
| 19:56.01 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: Not nearly as good as a decent readme |
| 19:56.01 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:56.08 | NeoTron | you don't keep up to speed with the patches? :P |
| 19:56.11 | Xinhuan | i wrote a detailed thing somewhere hmm |
| 19:56.22 | Aiiane_ | also |
| 19:56.42 | Aiiane_ | the waypoints seem to be acting up a little |
| 19:56.54 | Aiiane_ | in that they don't seem to follow the order they are on the route |
| 19:57.32 | Xinhuan | here Aiiane_ |
| 19:57.32 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10990.0 |
| 19:58.04 | Aiiane_ | only in rare cases though, which im guessing is because the route got re-optimized between when i turned on using waypoints and now |
| 19:58.06 | CIA-8 | 03tsigo * r61075 10Cutup/ (Cutup.lua Cutup.toc modules/Spam.lua): |
| 19:58.06 | CIA-8 | Cutup: |
| 19:58.06 | CIA-8 | - Update toc for 2.4, all other modules seemed to be working on PTR. |
| 19:58.06 | CIA-8 | - Allow Druids to use the Spam module, as that's the only one that currently applies to them. |
| 19:58.17 | Xinhuan | yeah doing that confuses it |
| 19:58.32 | Fin | hi |
| 19:58.42 | Gnarfoz | anyone got an idea why grid is showing an empty row below the first one? |
| 19:58.44 | Gnarfoz | just in arena matches |
| 19:58.45 | Xinhuan | and this post Aiiane_ |
| 19:58.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10990.msg176819#msg176819 |
| 19:59.15 | Grum | Gnarfoz: pets, tanks, |
| 19:59.22 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: would it be possible to auto toggle off and then toggle back on waypointing if you optimize a route |
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| 19:59.31 | Aiiane_ | since you know it's going to confuse it |
| 19:59.42 | Aiiane_ | so that it starts using the optimized route |
| 19:59.46 | Primer | NeoTron: I guess not |
| 19:59.59 | Xinhuan | possibly, but i have to keep track of a lot of stuff, such as whether you even have _Waypoints installed and enabled |
| 20:00.09 | Xinhuan | and then whether you are actively using it |
| 20:00.16 | Aiiane_ | and no, that's not what I mean by documenting :P |
| 20:00.35 | Grum | what do you want documented? |
| 20:00.38 | Grum | seriously, install it and it works |
| 20:00.40 | Xinhuan | lets just say cartographer doesn't have any so-called "documentation" either |
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| 20:00.54 | Aiiane_ | Grum: I shouldn't have to install an addon just to see what slash commands it has |
| 20:00.58 | Grum | the onyl documentation you need is your own eyes |
| 20:01.02 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: I know, I'm not arguing one is better than the other |
| 20:01.03 | Grum | and /gathermate |
| 20:01.05 | Grum | it has no slash commands |
| 20:01.11 | Grum | you want a gui to setup stuff |
| 20:01.22 | Aiiane_ | Grum: Not necessarily. |
| 20:01.53 | Xinhuan | lets just say, we believe you won't be disappointed |
| 20:01.59 | Xinhuan | if u try it |
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| 20:02.17 | Ellipsis | wtf, Xinhuan just used "u" |
| 20:02.25 | Ellipsis | FAEK XINHUAN |
| 20:02.34 | Grum | Aiiane_: seriously, there is nothing useful about commandline options |
| 20:02.41 | Primer | crap, some of my images are not attached to the frame |
| 20:02.41 | Xinhuan | ahhh hearthbroken again |
| 20:02.43 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 20:02.43 | Aiiane_ | Grum: Not true. |
| 20:02.44 | Primer | somehow |
| 20:02.54 | Grum | you just need to wrestle yourself into crap poses to make stuff work the wya you like |
| 20:02.55 | Primer | I'm now able to move the frame, but the pitch image doesn't move with it |
| 20:02.56 | Aiiane_ | Command line options can be macro'd and fit into a customized UI, without programming |
| 20:03.04 | Aiiane_ | GUIs cannot |
| 20:03.13 | Xinhuan | Aiiane_, just so you know, the entire cartographer series of addons also do not have slash commands :) |
| 20:03.23 | Xinhuan | i don't see the point of arguing about it |
| 20:03.27 | Aiiane_ | Xinhuan: you miss my point. I'm not comparing the two |
| 20:03.28 | Grum | y |
| 20:04.23 | Aiiane_ | I'm simply saying that well-documented addons are much more likely to entice me to try them then less documented addons |
| 20:04.27 | Aiiane_ | in general |
| 20:04.40 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=Yz2Qg9d7cAE bwahahaha |
| 20:04.46 | Pkekyo| | (NSFW) |
| 20:05.27 | thul | old :-P |
| 20:05.40 | Grum | oh well it has no slash commands so nothing to document ^^ |
| 20:05.40 | Pkekyo| | and still fucking golden |
| 20:05.48 | Pkekyo| | I died a bit inside |
| 20:06.43 | Aiiane_ | Nevermind Grum, it's obvious we don't share points of view. |
| 20:06.47 | Xinhuan | there's more options basically, like tracking circle color (by db), tracking radius, minimap edge, importing merge options, etc |
| 20:07.04 | Xinhuan | and the storage format uses about half to 1/3 as much memory |
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| 20:08.10 | Primer | awesome |
| 20:09.29 | Grum | Aiiane_: do you really want to set stuff like colors etc from a slash command? |
| 20:09.51 | Grum | i can understand toggling of certain stuff, but tbh, if you can make macros and read lua, you can just do it using some calls |
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| 20:12.52 | Aiiane_ | which is much more effort than should be required to toggle a lot of things, Grum |
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| 20:13.37 | CIA-8 | 03barfolomeu * r61076 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 20:13.38 | CIA-8 | FlightHUD: Added HUD background image. |
| 20:13.38 | CIA-8 | Added option to adjust HUD background image transparency. |
| 20:13.38 | CIA-8 | Fix to clamp all frame elements to the frame. |
| 20:13.38 | CIA-8 | Added scaling option. |
| 20:13.38 | CIA-8 | Added ability to drag. |
| 20:13.40 | CIA-8 | Added option to always show pitch. |
| 20:13.41 | Grum | Aiiane_: what kind of things do you need toggled ? :) |
| 20:14.03 | Primer | Doesn't CIA truncate? Geez |
| 20:14.56 | Aiiane_ | Grum: just using GatherMate as an example since it's already under discussion; turning on/off a particular type of node, toggling minimap display, toggling a certain profession |
| 20:15.20 | NeoTron | command line options are only useful if there's no GUI config :P |
| 20:15.30 | Aiiane_ | Already answered that NeoTron. |
| 20:15.58 | CIA-8 | 03barfolomeu * r61077 10/branches/FlightHUD/transparent.tga: FlightHUD: Forgot to add background image |
| 20:16.12 | Grum | Aiiane_: but that requires exacty typing for you |
| 20:16.18 | Grum | *exact |
| 20:16.26 | Aiiane | Grum? So? |
| 20:16.28 | Grum | you need to type every nodename by the exact name etc.. |
| 20:16.31 | Aiiane | *: |
| 20:16.31 | Grum | horrible? |
| 20:16.40 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61078 10Transcriptor/ (Core.lua Transcriptor.toc): Transcriptor: add COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED so the public can record PTR logs. The ace3 branch will stay until I figure out what to do with it. This version should work on 2.3/2.4 |
| 20:16.58 | Aiiane | So basically you're saying that slash commands are worthless because obviously I don't want to type "Terocone". |
| 20:17.10 | NeoTron | well doumented > badly documented but in some cases self explanatory is more than enough.. |
| 20:17.13 | Aiiane | Let /me/ decide what I want to type |
| 20:17.15 | Grum | and what is the difference between: /gathermate herb visbility TYPE off ; and /run GatherMate.db.global..... = false ? |
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| 20:18.10 | Grum | i just dont see the benefit of a slashcommand interface over just calling something in lua O.o |
| 20:18.19 | Aiiane | Grum: is being able to type /gathermate, seeing a "herb" option set, then being able to type /gathermate herb, seeing a "visibility" optionset, and then being able to work from there - or better yet, having it DOCUMENTED that you can do that |
| 20:18.36 | Josh_Borke | why wouldn't you use the gui? |
| 20:19.00 | Aiiane | Josh_Borke: why don't you use an onscreen keyboard to type your irc messages |
| 20:19.13 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: i do on my phone |
| 20:19.19 | Aiiane | but do you on your computer |
| 20:19.30 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: if i had a touch screen computer? helly's yes |
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| 20:19.37 | Josh_Borke | but we're not talking about communication |
| 20:19.41 | Ellipsis | configuration doesn't have to be efficient |
| 20:19.41 | Josh_Borke | we're talking about options changes |
| 20:19.49 | Ellipsis | you do it once, maybe go back and tweak it occasionally |
| 20:19.54 | Ellipsis | it's not something you do all day every day |
| 20:19.54 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: no, but its nice if it is =) |
| 20:19.57 | Aiiane | Ellipsis: Depends on the setting involved |
| 20:20.13 | nevcairiel | a streamlined config can do much for a first impression |
| 20:20.18 | Aiiane | for instance, I toggle my Grid layouts around multiple times in the span of an hour |
| 20:20.23 | Grum | Aiiane: the thing is that for developers slash commands are just not .. worthwhile, you spend a fuckload of time getting it in a GUI config and then you have to make sure it works and looks nice on console commands as well? |
| 20:20.34 | Josh_Borke | quite frankly this is a completely subjective discussion and it doesn't matter one way or the other. in the end it is up to the addon author to do it |
| 20:20.39 | CIA-8 | 03barfolomeu * r61079 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua FlightHUD.toc Locale-enUS.lua): FlightHUD: Merge from branches |
| 20:20.40 | Grum | just use /run INSERT_LUA_CODE if you really want 'power' |
| 20:20.54 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: most discussions here are totally subjective .P |
| 20:21.03 | Aiiane | Grum: I don't even care if it looks nice on console commands, just having them there is enough |
| 20:21.11 | Grum | you dont, developers do |
| 20:21.14 | Grum | and you have slash commands |
| 20:21.19 | kenlyric | cool, I can't feed my pet |
| 20:21.20 | Grum | /run [luacode] ^^ |
| 20:21.32 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: well sure, it's nice, but is it worth the extra effort? |
| 20:21.42 | Grum | Aiiane: you need to maintain 'yet another' API and that sucks |
| 20:21.57 | Grum | especially since there is no good reason to have it in the first place (see the '/run ...') |
| 20:22.06 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: depends on you entirely, for me it is, yes |
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| 20:22.11 | Aiiane | Grum: then someone design a lib that generates both a slash and a gui from one option set... wait, isn't that what ace's options lib does |
| 20:22.19 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: no, it's not |
| 20:22.21 | Grum | no that actually isnt |
| 20:22.40 | CIA-8 | 03barfolomeu * r61080 10FlightHUD/transparent.tga: FlightHUD: Dammit, gonna have to merge for real from now on instead of export...forgot to add transparent.tga |
| 20:22.46 | Aiiane | then it's not, and someone should make something that does |
| 20:22.53 | Grum | why? |
| 20:22.56 | Grum | its a pain |
| 20:23.03 | Aiiane | Lots of things are a pain |
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| 20:23.07 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: your best bet then is to create a jira ticket |
| 20:23.08 | Grum | write it yourself? :) |
| 20:23.13 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: rather than arguing with anyone |
| 20:23.25 | Aiiane | Josh_Borke: I wasn't the one who started this |
| 20:23.27 | Grum | Aiiane: and things causing pain have to be worth it :) |
| 20:23.45 | Aiiane | I'm not demanding anyone add slash commands to their addons |
| 20:23.53 | Josh_Borke | well, i don't have time to determine who did and recommend they jira it, instead i'm directing it at the person currently requesting/arguing it |
| 20:23.54 | Poul|Raider | Poul|Raider: some of the guys on wowace already have some combat logs to share - confirm :) |
| 20:23.56 | Aiiane | I was simply responding to grum's statement that slash commands are worthless |
| 20:24.17 | Grum | i said they are a pain, not worthless, i actualy said for some toggles it would be ok |
| 20:24.31 | Grum | but then again not worth to go through the effort of making the handler for it |
| 20:24.44 | Corgan | Poul|Raider, your face has some combat logs to share |
| 20:24.45 | Corgan | with my fist |
| 20:24.48 | Grum | as you can do the same with a ./run command :) |
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| 20:25.02 | Poul|Raider | Corgan :( |
| 20:25.08 | Corgan | :( |
| 20:25.10 | Aiiane | Grum, that's basically saying write it yourself |
| 20:25.15 | Aiiane | so at least just say that |
| 20:25.22 | Cheads | not always so easy to figure out someone else's lua :/ |
| 20:25.31 | Aiiane | precisely. |
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| 20:25.42 | Aiiane | which brings me back to documentation. |
| 20:25.55 | Poul|Raider | i will take that as a no then Corgan, stop slacking and fix log :D |
| 20:25.57 | NeoTron | Aiiane: what you can do is to write your own addon GatherMate_CommandLine :) |
| 20:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD DAMN IT |
| 20:26.09 | Grum | well, that is how you have irc and fora, just ask people for help if you cant figure it out yourself |
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| 20:26.12 | sag_ich_nicht | now i worked out why PP is fucking up |
| 20:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | SOMEONE |
| 20:26.16 | Corgan | Slacking? >:( |
| 20:26.18 | sag_ich_nicht | FOR THE LOVE OF GOD |
| 20:26.25 | Corgan | I've got some fun stuff that I'm working on :P |
| 20:26.26 | Grum | i'll help you out with it if you want |
| 20:26.29 | sag_ich_nicht | KILL THE DAMN FUCKING SMARTBUFF CODE FOR SINGLE BUFFS IN PALLY POWER |
| 20:26.36 | sag_ich_nicht | JESUS CHRIST WHAT A RETARDED SYSTEM |
| 20:26.39 | Aiiane | it's more just a mentality |
| 20:26.48 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, dont we all, the question if i get something out of it! |
| 20:26.50 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 20:27.08 | Cheads | Grum not always people have time to help =) |
| 20:27.23 | Gnarfoz | brr |
| 20:27.34 | Gnarfoz | Afflicted errors heavily :< |
| 20:27.46 | Grum | same as those people dont have time to make slashcommand interfaces that hardly anyone uses :P |
| 20:28.12 | Cheads | if there's no gui then the normal use has to =) |
| 20:28.17 | Aiiane | but Grum, in the meantime, if you want to help me figure out a /run command to toggle using waypoints for Routes on and off, be my guest :P |
| 20:28.17 | Grum | tbh, any addon i make, i make because i want it |
| 20:28.25 | Grum | sure, give me a sec |
| 20:28.35 | NeoTron | speaking of which |
| 20:28.46 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r61081 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix for Routes\Routes.lua:2706: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'last_point' (a nil value) when trying to insert a node into a route with taboo regions. |
| 20:28.54 | NeoTron | I got an addon idea - one tha tallows making custom slash commands from a /script line |
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| 20:29.11 | Cheads | haha |
| 20:29.18 | NeoTron | or rather bind a prefix X to a lua script snippet Y with arguments [...] |
| 20:29.46 | NeoTron | understanding that you'd likely end up with a common prefix |
| 20:30.03 | NeoTron | so /lsa X [args] to call Y with the arguments [args] |
| 20:31.29 | Cheads | Grum while you are at it, can you tell me which script command to use to change the fight data to "total data" and "current fight" for Assessment? =) |
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| 20:31.37 | Grum | no |
| 20:32.24 | Cheads | that's a shame |
| 20:32.47 | sb_ | hmm |
| 20:32.55 | sb_ | we need an addon for 2.4 loot :o |
| 20:33.18 | Grum | Aiiane: /run Routes:GetModule("Waypoints"):QueueFirstNode() should do the trick |
| 20:33.19 | sb_ | so you can see "Helm of Uther's Resolve" when looting "Helm of Burning Righteousness" |
| 20:33.22 | Grum | to toggle it on. |
| 20:34.03 | Grum | and: /run Routes:GetModule("Waypoints"):RemoveQueuedNode() to turn it off |
| 20:34.21 | CIA-8 | 03ckknight * r61082 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't show configMode options for raid/solo when in a party and don't show options for party/solo when in a raid. |
| 20:34.30 | Aiiane | k, thanks Grum |
| 20:34.31 | Xinhuan | hey wobin, about 10 gnomes came on blackrock to spam /2 the last 20 minutes about AD being down :) |
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| 20:35.54 | Aiiane | that said, if there's any chance it might be possible to implement /routes waypoints toggle, it'd be nice ;) |
| 20:37.28 | KarlThePagan | wtb routes/gathermate fubar plugin ;) |
| 20:38.02 | Xinhuan | what the heck you need a gathermate plugin for |
| 20:38.08 | Xinhuan | routes i can understand |
| 20:38.11 | Xinhuan | but gathermate? |
| 20:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | jesus christ |
| 20:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan do you happen to know who the author of pallypower is? |
| 20:38.36 | Xinhuan | no |
| 20:38.39 | Xinhuan | check TOC kgo |
| 20:38.48 | Xinhuan | !toc Pallypower |
| 20:38.55 | Xinhuan | bah threa never implemented it |
| 20:38.56 | Aiiane | http://wowace.com/wiki/PallyPower --> Aznamir |
| 20:38.58 | Xinhuan | thrae* |
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| 20:41.23 | KarlThePagan | Xinhuan, mostly for hud controls |
| 20:41.39 | Xinhuan | can you be a bit more specific? |
| 20:41.57 | Aiiane | off to lunch |
| 20:42.26 | KarlThePagan | convenient toggle, locking angle are the two I go to the config screen most often for |
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| 20:42.36 | KarlThePagan | i did finally bind it |
| 20:42.45 | KarlThePagan | but I've got too many binds QQ |
| 20:42.56 | NeoTron | so are a lot of addons breaking on the PTR in general? |
| 20:43.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:43.59 | nevcairiel | anything that works on or with the combatlog died |
| 20:44.18 | nevcairiel | thats mostly like all timers, all parses, all meters |
| 20:44.46 | NeoTron | heard there was something that was backwards compatible but I suppose that was wron? |
| 20:46.50 | Fin | what time is it in Beverly Hills right now? |
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| 20:47.43 | Antiarc | 12:47 PM |
| 20:47.49 | Fin | thank you kindly, Antiarc |
| 20:48.00 | Fin | so, about 2 hours until the WGA vote starts |
| 20:48.33 | NeoTron | WGA? |
| 20:48.37 | NeoTron | Wideo Game Awards? :P |
| 20:49.34 | Fin | Writers Guild Association |
| 20:50.00 | Fin | -that+Writers Guild of America |
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| 20:51.57 | NeoTron | Man, no BigWigs_Sunwell yet? I'm shocked! |
| 20:52.12 | Funkeh` | gimme a few min... |
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| 20:53.03 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: |
| 20:53.04 | NeoTron | oops |
| 20:53.12 | Kalroth_ | Funky is still parsing the raid logs! |
| 20:53.13 | NeoTron | I meant to say something wise and deep there but I'll skip it |
| 20:54.12 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: are you playing it yourself or just getting logs sent to you ? |
| 20:54.44 | Funkeh` | getting logs |
| 20:55.38 | NeoTron | so Brutallus seems brutally easy, DPS-wise |
| 20:55.50 | Xinhuan | do people normally email you logs, or send you via forum attachments or what? |
| 20:55.51 | NeoTron | need <13k raid DPS with 9 healers, 3 tanks |
| 20:55.53 | Xinhuan | out of curiosity |
| 20:56.03 | Funkeh` | anything |
| 20:56.06 | NeoTron | more of a heal fight but still |
| 20:57.14 | Funkeh` | GetSpellInfo(spellId) <3 |
| 20:58.01 | Fisker- | ahaha |
| 20:58.04 | Fisker- | toxic spore kiting ftw |
| 20:58.14 | Kalroth_ | The new IDs are hot :) |
| 20:58.36 | Pkekyo| | does blizzard (for wow) accept paypal? |
| 20:58.47 | Kalroth_ | Pkekyo|: I don't think so |
| 20:58.54 | Ozguli | heh. Conspiracy, we plotted a mind control gank on eu-ravenholdt |
| 20:59.24 | Kalroth_ | Pkekyo|: It seems they do |
| 20:59.25 | Ozguli | I heard that mind control buffing etc is bannable nowadays |
| 20:59.28 | Kalroth_ | Pkekyo|: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20475 |
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| 21:01.06 | chiper | mind control buffing? what, you MC someone, buff yourself, and then release the MC? |
| 21:01.25 | Ozguli | chiper mc someone, buff them and release |
| 21:01.37 | cncfanatics | does anyone know if WoW server transfer can be paid with paypal ? |
| 21:01.39 | Kalroth_ | How on earth is that bannable? |
| 21:01.49 | chiper | o.O why would you want to do that? |
| 21:02.07 | Ozguli | because they're getting ganked by some tard and I don't like to see it |
| 21:02.33 | Ozguli | then I got a horde priest to gank the ganking dwarf -> Nuke! |
| 21:02.48 | Kalroth_ | We used to MC people at MC entrance and throw them into the lava, that was fun until they started doing it to us :( |
| 21:03.23 | chiper | Kalroth: a buddy of mine likes to hide on zepplins and throw people off |
| 21:05.31 | mort | i like that idea, i need to start an alliance priest on a pvp server... |
| 21:06.16 | Josh_Borke | works great on boats |
| 21:06.22 | Josh_Borke | throw them off while in fatigue |
| 21:06.50 | mort | i like to buff people with pw:f before they jump down from the scryer plattform |
| 21:06.51 | Ozguli | but but |
| 21:07.11 | Ozguli | they're adding guards to ruin our fun |
| 21:08.34 | mort | i can do that for hours, sooo funny :) |
| 21:08.53 | Josh_Borke | mort: eh? |
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| 21:09.37 | mort | you always lose a fixed percentage of health if you fall down, the second i buff you with pw:f your max health increases and you crater :P |
| 21:09.46 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 21:09.52 | Josh_Borke | i've got to try that |
| 21:10.12 | Xinhuan | rofl at the 80 lvl 1 gnomes in ironforge |
| 21:10.19 | Xinhuan | all screaming "argent is down!" |
| 21:10.24 | chiper | haha |
| 21:10.25 | Xinhuan | argent dawn* |
| 21:10.31 | Xinhuan | and blackrock sux |
| 21:10.45 | Xinhuan | its getting close to blackrock's scale on ad |
| 21:10.47 | Xinhuan | but yeah |
| 21:10.51 | Xinhuan | only 80 gnomes |
| 21:11.07 | Xinhuan | they managed to create a guild called |
| 21:11.12 | Xinhuan | <ArgentDawnExiles> |
| 21:11.13 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 21:13.06 | Xinhuan | wow these gnomes on /2 and /1 are actually causing about 2.1 kb/sec of traffic |
| 21:13.24 | Xinhuan | over the usual 400b/sec ;p |
| 21:13.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:13.50 | Xinhuan | i wonder why AD is down anyway |
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| 21:14.10 | Xinhuan | but considering there was about 15 "blackrock down" on customer service forums thread yesterday |
| 21:14.12 | Xinhuan | there's 0 about AD |
| 21:14.13 | Arcaia | Shattered Hand and Blackrock -+-{ Two Most Crashing Servers of WoW US }-+- ATM though -> the entire Ruin battlegroup is dead. |
| 21:14.25 | mort | !ointd 250 |
| 21:14.33 | mort | argh |
| 21:14.40 | mort | !points 350 |
| 21:14.41 | Xinhuan | 350 arena points require 1506(5s), 1547(3s) and 1597(2s) team rating. |
| 21:15.38 | Xinhuan | i just find it funny because the AD invasion is no where near the scope of our original invasion ;p |
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| 21:19.09 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 21:19.11 | Fisker- | SUCK MY COCK |
| 21:19.36 | thul | i want to transfer my rp-pve char to a pvp server :-( |
| 21:19.55 | Fisker- | I'M A PALADIN |
| 21:20.02 | thul | I am to |
| 21:20.03 | thul | o |
| 21:20.44 | Fisker- | vashj down btw |
| 21:21.51 | sb_ | nef down! |
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| 21:22.18 | [SW]Dodge | raid down :E |
| 21:22.39 | [SW]Dodge | Arisen EU vs. Al'ar |
| 21:22.44 | [SW]Dodge | 0 - 2 |
| 21:22.47 | sb_ | hehe |
| 21:23.01 | m4rku5 | Europe vs PTR -> 0 : 3 |
| 21:23.02 | m4rku5 | -.- |
| 21:23.04 | [SW]Dodge | ow... 0 3 :( |
| 21:23.19 | [SW]Dodge | m4rku5: damn char transfer?^^ |
| 21:23.24 | m4rku5 | yep ^^ |
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| 21:23.31 | m4rku5 | 3 copies gone nowhere already |
| 21:23.33 | m4rku5 | 4th is pending |
| 21:23.34 | m4rku5 | ;P |
| 21:23.43 | Firelemming | hi all |
| 21:23.45 | [SW]Dodge | i cant even start a transfer -.- |
| 21:24.36 | sag_ich_nicht | HA |
| 21:24.39 | sag_ich_nicht | FIRST ON TIDEWALKER |
| 21:24.46 | sb_ | we need an addon!!! :p |
| 21:24.48 | sb_ | [21:33:17] <sb_> so you can see "Helm of Uther's Resolve" when looting "Helm of Burning Righteousness" <----- |
| 21:25.40 | nevcairiel | my second char on PTR just arrived, wtf are you doing wrong =P |
| 21:26.22 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: i not... blizz :E |
| 21:26.44 | nevcairiel | all copys from before today got wiped |
| 21:26.44 | Cheads | " The character copy queue is currently full" :/ |
| 21:26.48 | nevcairiel | just copy again |
| 21:26.51 | nevcairiel | and it'll arrive |
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| 21:26.58 | nevcairiel | (once the queue is empty) |
| 21:27.02 | Cheads | can't even get to the copy page =) |
| 21:27.04 | [SW]Dodge | -____- |
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| 21:27.45 | CIA-8 | 03gandharva * r61083 10MountUp/ (ItemSwap.lua MountUp.toc embeds.xml): |
| 21:27.45 | CIA-8 | MountUp: |
| 21:27.45 | CIA-8 | - added 'Suspend when raiding' (Hyjal, BT, Zul) |
| 21:27.45 | CIA-8 | - toc bump |
| 21:28.35 | CIA-8 | 03pastamancer * r61084 10Grid/GridLocale-frFR.lua: Grid: frFR update from idispatch |
| 21:28.48 | [SW]Dodge | OMG... 5player DC while alar try :_: |
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| 21:29.41 | NeoTron | Gandharva: suspend when raiding = win |
| 21:29.52 | sag_ich_nicht | 1115.1 dps fuck yeah |
| 21:30.14 | Kivin | sag_ich_nicht: Any sign of the retribution gear changes on the ptr? |
| 21:30.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: sure |
| 21:30.59 | sag_ich_nicht | all out since like 2 days |
| 21:30.59 | sag_ich_nicht | go check www.mmo-champion.com |
| 21:30.59 | Gandharva | NeoTron: I hated it when the riding crop got equipped in hyjal |
| 21:31.00 | sag_ich_nicht | looks nice but incomplete |
| 21:31.01 | NivFreak | they just reitemized t4/t5/t6 right? |
| 21:31.04 | sag_ich_nicht | few oversights |
| 21:31.05 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:31.09 | sag_ich_nicht | S1/S2 too |
| 21:31.11 | NivFreak | ah |
| 21:31.13 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 21:31.19 | NivFreak | did they yank all the spell dmg? |
| 21:31.35 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 21:31.35 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 21:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | they made an oversight |
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| 21:32.30 | NivFreak | ... |
| 21:32.36 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: if you beat out rogues on tidewalker, your rogues must suck. very much. ;D |
| 21:33.03 | sag_ich_nicht | socketing boni are still +spelldamage |
| 21:33.18 | Kivin | the reputation pvp gear is kinda stupid. |
| 21:33.29 | Aiiane | Kivin: sort of, yes |
| 21:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: i know |
| 21:33.44 | sag_ich_nicht | half our dps died anyway |
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| 21:33.56 | Kivin | they remove warlords, add season 1, then bring back ghetto generals as this rep crap |
| 21:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | thus i'm more happy about the 1115.1 dps value |
| 21:34.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and not about the fact that i'm first in damage |
| 21:34.06 | Gandharva | sag_ich_nicht: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2843814862&sid=1 |
| 21:34.14 | Kivin | AND they got the glove bonus wrong |
| 21:34.31 | Kivin | +20 holy damage bonus to crusader |
| 21:34.34 | Gandharva | doesn't look that good |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-8 | 03feu * r61085 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-8 | oRA2: |
| 21:34.40 | CIA-8 | - Updated MainTank.lua frFR localization |
| 21:34.56 | Kivin | and there's no resilience... |
| 21:35.07 | Kivin | not sure why ret is forced to go without resilience |
| 21:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Gandharva: it's better than before |
| 21:35.25 | mort | not enough item budget |
| 21:35.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: the is resilience on S1/S2 in 2.4 |
| 21:35.40 | sag_ich_nicht | what are you talking about? |
| 21:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 21:35.54 | sag_ich_nicht | they didn't? |
| 21:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | lol? |
| 21:35.56 | Kivin | i'm looking right at it... |
| 21:36.00 | Kivin | they didn't |
| 21:36.03 | Kivin | not a single pt |
| 21:36.10 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 21:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 21:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | time to start WWS |
| 21:36.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i finally beat sense into our enchantment shaman |
| 21:36.33 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking MORON RETARD believed grace of air > WF |
| 21:36.40 | Gandharva | omg |
| 21:36.45 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 21:36.57 | Gandharva | better for him... |
| 21:37.01 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 21:37.04 | Paene | depends on the group makeup :) |
| 21:37.04 | Gnarfoz | enhancement btw |
| 21:37.05 | Gandharva | idiot |
| 21:37.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Paene: rogue dpswar dpswar he retpala |
| 21:37.19 | Gnarfoz | and: WF is always better if you're not the only weapon user in the group :< |
| 21:37.27 | sag_ich_nicht | true |
| 21:37.36 | Gandharva | then wf >>> goa |
| 21:38.42 | sag_ich_nicht | pissed me off like nothing else |
| 21:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | and the raid leader was like "yeah whatever!" |
| 21:38.52 | sag_ich_nicht | -! |
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| 21:38.59 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking bullshit scrub moron |
| 21:39.16 | Gandharva | tell the rl that this guy is wasting massiv raiddps |
| 21:39.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i told him |
| 21:39.31 | Gandharva | an he doesn't care? |
| 21:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | he was like "whatever the bosses still go down" |
| 21:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | he is too lazy to deal with drama |
| 21:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking bullshit moron |
| 21:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll show him the WWS from today |
| 21:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | then he'll probably STFU |
| 21:40.26 | sag_ich_nicht | melees assraped the casters today |
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| 21:40.49 | Gandharva | ah, and btw, kick the second warri and get some feral ^^ |
| 21:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | we have 2 ferals already. |
| 21:41.06 | sag_ich_nicht | they tank. |
| 21:41.19 | Gandharva | and no prot warri? |
| 21:41.35 | sag_ich_nicht | prot warrs are in the tank group |
| 21:41.46 | Gandharva | your raiddps must suck ^^ |
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| 21:41.52 | sag_ich_nicht | kind of |
| 21:42.29 | mort | sounds like you are really happy with zour raid group... |
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| 21:43.41 | Gandharva | last gorefiend kill we did 28k dps with 8 healers :) |
| 21:44.00 | Gandharva | http://wowwebstats.com/qub4o6ujipz4w?s=13770-13986 |
| 21:45.01 | mort | and no substract the damage you did to the contructs |
| 21:45.26 | Arrowmaster | hmm we only had 17.8k dps with 8 healers |
| 21:45.32 | Arrowmaster | although it was a sloppy kill |
| 21:45.53 | Gandharva | construct dps is not included in wws afaik |
| 21:46.04 | mort | it is in yours |
| 21:46.23 | mort | he has 4,1mio hp |
| 21:46.43 | mort | you did 6,200,000 dmg |
| 21:46.59 | Arrowmaster | http://wowwebstats.com/k1ygttomhlbeo?s=5034-5319 |
| 21:47.14 | Arrowmaster | 5 009 955 dmg |
| 21:47.16 | Daemona | hey sag_ich_nicht ... i got something for your enhancement shaman to chew on ... 7k posts and 1.28 mio clicks should know better -> |
| 21:47.17 | Daemona | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13297-enhance_shaman_collected_works_theorycraft_vol_i/ |
| 21:47.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Daemona: i know that thread :P |
| 21:47.30 | Arrowmaster | although i know our healers got doomed |
| 21:47.47 | Daemona | slap em unconcious with it. |
| 21:47.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 21:48.07 | mort | oh, pugnas rache, same realm ;) |
| 21:49.20 | Ellipsis | oh u Fisker- |
| 21:49.26 | Fisker- | we killed a vashj |
| 21:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: IceHUD |
| 21:49.32 | Ellipsis | what about it? |
| 21:49.36 | sag_ich_nicht | you can use it now |
| 21:49.38 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't fail |
| 21:49.43 | Ellipsis | I know, but I don't need to |
| 21:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | except for the color config dialog |
| 21:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay |
| 21:49.48 | Ellipsis | pitbull has vertical bars now :) |
| 21:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 21:50.17 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 21:50.35 | Grum | <Gandharva> http://wowwebstats.com/qub4o6ujipz4w?s=13770-13986 <-- those stats are broken |
| 21:50.46 | Grum | wws2 is crappy beta still |
| 21:51.11 | Gandharva | mort: let me guess, you play alliance? |
| 21:51.28 | mort | yes |
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| 21:51.47 | mort | as the other 95% on alleria |
| 21:51.48 | Gandharva | I like the wws client. simple to handle |
| 21:51.55 | Gandharva | *wws2 |
| 21:52.04 | Gandharva | hehe jeah ^^ |
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| 21:53.50 | mort | hrm, 14450 rdps on our last gorefiend kill, 9 healers |
| 21:54.35 | durcyn | nine? |
| 21:54.53 | Arrowmaster | wws needs a way to sort by raw healing |
| 21:55.12 | durcyn | 14450 is something like half of what it should be |
| 21:55.34 | Gandharva | we usually go with 7 healers. sometimes 6. |
| 21:56.00 | Grum | 9 healers is a bit much, you also planned to go go bloodboil/shahraz/council? |
| 21:56.11 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wowwebstats.com/flx5nlxzwi5ww |
| 21:56.20 | mort | we did bloobbeoil right after that |
| 21:56.43 | Gandharva | you don't need 9 healers for bloodboil or the other two |
| 21:56.57 | Grum | no need, just makes it easy |
| 21:57.14 | Gandharva | imo it's easy enough with 7 |
| 21:57.39 | Gandharva | the more dps the faster the bosses die ;) |
| 21:57.45 | mort | i couldnt care less, if have more than enough mana reservers to dish out much more healing |
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| 21:58.24 | Grum | ah well, we use 9 healers on 3 fights and 7 on all others |
| 21:59.10 | Gandharva | we don't change our setup during hyjal/bt |
| 21:59.24 | mort | it's not my call, i'm just spamming life bloom ;) |
| 21:59.41 | Grum | i personally dont want to do bb with less than 8 |
| 21:59.55 | Grum | and ideally 2-3 priests with at least 2 CoH :) |
| 22:00.21 | nevcairiel | we usually only have 1 priest, tops 2 |
| 22:00.39 | nevcairiel | we use druids to HoT the bloodboil targets |
| 22:00.51 | Firelemming | is there a addon that transforms all the bg chat to lowercase? |
| 22:01.07 | Grum | lol |
| 22:01.39 | rubik | hahaha |
| 22:01.51 | mort | prat can probably do that |
| 22:02.02 | Firelemming | was serious question though :) |
| 22:02.21 | Firelemming | getting fucking annoying about the caps chat spamms |
| 22:02.54 | NeoTron | durcyn: a "normal" guild won't do 30k raid dps on gorefiend |
| 22:02.55 | Fin | CustomFilters, yes |
| 22:03.01 | Fin | +will do |
| 22:03.03 | NeoTron | if you've been farming BT for 6 months, sure |
| 22:03.49 | Gandharva | Grum: uploaded the report with wws1 -> http://wowwebstats.com/s4pyz6tvvl66e?s=13770-13986 |
| 22:04.10 | Firelemming | you know how to do that Fin? |
| 22:04.23 | Gandharva | 22,4k rdps. seems wws2 is really incorrect here |
| 22:04.34 | Grum | Gandharva: told ya |
| 22:04.44 | Gandharva | thanks for the hint :) |
| 22:04.46 | Grum | http://wowwebstats.com/pzepye5s5cyjy?s=4038-4259 <-- we do the same |
| 22:04.58 | Grum | Gandharva: what it does wrong, it counts the construct dps as well |
| 22:04.59 | nevcairiel | wws1 and 2 will be broken pretty soon anyway |
| 22:05.00 | nevcairiel | so |
| 22:05.01 | nevcairiel | yeah :P |
| 22:05.04 | Grum | has been reported eons ago |
| 22:05.12 | Grum | but no-one cares enough there |
| 22:05.23 | rubik | yeah.. i hope WWS dies a painful death |
| 22:05.30 | Grum | look at that http://wowwebstats.com/pzepye5s5cyjy?s=4038-4259 .. priest power ^^ |
| 22:05.32 | Gandharva | hehe, me included ^^ |
| 22:05.35 | rubik | and something better replaces it |
| 22:05.35 | Grum | 4 holy priests ftw :D |
| 22:05.49 | HIghoS | Hmm, did NRT break.. i though you could double click on the icon to take attedance and now i'm getting an error. |
| 22:06.02 | rubik | request from lossendil (wws author): "don't expect to get any feedback or to see any 2.4 report during one month as we'll be working on the client and the core layers of the 2.4 statistical engine" |
| 22:06.14 | nevcairiel | Grum: that one shadow priest healed more then 2 of your holys ......^^ |
| 22:06.28 | Gandharva | Gram, jeah, the same dps, but with only 7 healers :P |
| 22:06.31 | Grum | nevcairiel: they prolly died :D |
| 22:06.40 | Gandharva | we had 8 ;) |
| 22:07.22 | Tuller | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=3CCAD35461CFECA28DA4DBC40E1DF5AD?topicId=4493455082&sid=1 |
| 22:07.24 | nevcairiel | I still think holy priests arent that good healers, they cant sustain long fights |
| 22:07.32 | Fin | Firelemming: look into the CustomFilter module |
| 22:07.33 | Tuller | I had that, on my old compy :P |
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| 22:08.01 | Grum | nevcairiel: not true |
| 22:08.06 | Grum | i dont have much problems tbh |
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| 22:08.21 | Grum | if every one does their task its easy |
| 22:08.26 | nevcairiel | most of the holy priests couldnt heal any longer fight without a shadowpriest |
| 22:08.29 | keiss | anyone else on EU cant login atm ? |
| 22:08.42 | mort | <- |
| 22:08.52 | Fin | <- |
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| 22:08.57 | keiss | mkay |
| 22:09.07 | nevcairiel | ya login servers are busted |
| 22:09.12 | Fin | just got past Handshaking, onto "Disconnected" :( |
| 22:09.14 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: our priests rarelt get shadow priests |
| 22:09.26 | nevcairiel | we rarely take priests =P |
| 22:09.29 | NeoTron | exception being illidari council because it's so damn long and lots of ambient damage |
| 22:09.33 | mort | a good holy knows how to conserve mana |
| 22:09.53 | nevcairiel | either our holys all suck, or that statement is wrong .. i wouldnt really know |
| 22:09.57 | nevcairiel | but we still dont take as many :D |
| 22:10.08 | mort | CoH is freaking amazing |
| 22:10.12 | keiss | nevcairiel: they prolly suck :) |
| 22:10.36 | nevcairiel | CoH only works in special cases, like group based dmg |
| 22:10.42 | nevcairiel | on Illidan its amazing |
| 22:10.45 | nevcairiel | in p2 at least |
| 22:10.51 | mort | that you have in many bt/hyal encounters |
| 22:10.55 | keiss | which is half of BT |
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| 22:11.09 | rubik | not sure what's going on lately.. our priests used to all want to be shadow.. now none do.. and our warrior tanks are all going dps.. and all the tanking is left to feral druids.. cause all pallies are healers.. strange times we live in |
| 22:11.19 | nevcairiel | illidan and bloodboil basically have group based dmg .. what else? :D |
| 22:11.33 | keiss | RoS , naj |
| 22:11.34 | mort | RoS |
| 22:11.42 | nevcairiel | naj is random dmg |
| 22:11.53 | m4rku5 | EU loginservers down ? |
| 22:12.00 | keiss | huh ? and the 9k to everyone is what ? :) |
| 22:12.07 | Stanzilla | 8.5k |
| 22:12.07 | nevcairiel | our holys told me that CoH isnt strong enough for RoS, they wanted to do prayer of healing all the time |
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| 22:12.38 | nevcairiel | keiss: even a pally can heal one group up before the boss starts handing out more water bolts, so that doesnt really count =P |
| 22:13.10 | Gandharva | 1748dps on Anetheron -> MS 4tw :D http://wowwebstats.com/s4pyz6tvvl66e?s=2795-2997 |
| 22:13.13 | keiss | nevcairiel: it counts , because u wont get a faster healing than CoH in that situation nomatter what :) |
| 22:13.31 | keiss | wow , got to 'Retrieving character list' |
| 22:13.43 | Grum | CoH is perfect for Naj+RoS+BB+Illidan |
| 22:14.07 | nevcairiel | maybe our priests do suck like that, but we're used to taking more druids now |
| 22:14.12 | nevcairiel | Illidan with 4 druids = ftw |
| 22:14.19 | Grum | 4 druids? kek |
| 22:14.22 | mort | good choice! :P |
| 22:14.28 | Firelemming | Fin: when i look at the wiki for customfilters its only talking about date/time formats. |
| 22:14.44 | Grum | it really just matters what you do normally indeed |
| 22:14.45 | nevcairiel | we could basically live without pallys |
| 22:14.46 | keiss | nevcairiel: i can believe that , alot of guild have diff approaches ... as long as it works ... |
| 22:14.54 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:15.01 | nevcairiel | only that everyone would cry for the stupid blessings |
| 22:15.01 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:15.15 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps * r61086 10BunchOfBars/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:15.15 | CIA-8 | BunchOfBars: |
| 22:15.15 | CIA-8 | - Replaced the HealEstimate module by a VisualHeal module (using |
| 22:15.15 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0). Babble-Spell-2.2 is still in there because DogTag-1.0 needs |
| 22:15.15 | CIA-8 | it, and LibDogTag-2.0 does not look like a drop-in replacement, so will need |
| 22:15.16 | CIA-8 | some additional work to get rid of the legacy code. |
| 22:16.39 | Elsia | is there a way to find out if a UIDropDownMenu is already open? |
| 22:17.13 | crohnoes | any healers that use pitbull here? |
| 22:17.23 | NivFreak | I use pitbull, but not to heal :) |
| 22:17.35 | mort | grid yes, but not for healing |
| 22:17.39 | crohnoes | i think the visualheal only affects healers |
| 22:17.40 | mort | err pitbull |
| 22:17.48 | mort | i use grid for healing ;) |
| 22:18.02 | crohnoes | i do too |
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| 22:18.19 | Fin | whee! connected! |
| 22:18.25 | crohnoes | but there is a pitbull module i use for tank healing |
| 22:19.20 | mort | there is nothing in pitbull that i cant do wrid |
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| 22:19.24 | mort | with grid |
| 22:19.29 | Gandharva | meh... still no character on ptr :/ |
| 22:20.01 | crohnoes | there's this module that uses dr damage that estimates your heals |
| 22:20.09 | crohnoes | if you know what i'm on about, can't remember the name |
| 22:20.28 | rubik | i was seeing dark green bars inside my pitbull (and grid?) bars in a raid last night for the first time |
| 22:20.30 | crohnoes | it's called visualheal now, but it's different to the old module |
| 22:20.35 | mort | grid ahs incoming heals lib support |
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| 22:20.44 | rubik | incoming heals on me (tank) and other raid people as well |
| 22:20.48 | Diao | ihl isn't as accurate though |
| 22:20.51 | crohnoes | yeah rubik |
| 22:20.55 | crohnoes | that's the new visualheal thing |
| 22:21.00 | rubik | it was neat |
| 22:21.00 | Diao | anyone know if libMH4 replaces MH3? |
| 22:21.07 | crohnoes | i dislike it B( |
| 22:21.17 | Arrowmaster | Diao: only for addons that support it |
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| 22:21.31 | Diao | which addons *don't* support it? :p |
| 22:21.41 | rubik | only pitbull supports it for now? |
| 22:21.43 | Arrowmaster | all of them but pitbull |
| 22:21.44 | Diao | aside from like |
| 22:21.48 | Diao | oh |
| 22:21.49 | Diao | well i use pitbull |
| 22:21.57 | Diao | guess i can remove MH3 |
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| 22:22.06 | Diao | grid, cowtip, etc won't be affected right? |
| 22:22.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:22.22 | Diao | since they're party/raid members |
| 22:22.46 | Grum | what is MH in the libMH3/4 ? :) |
| 22:22.49 | Grum | mobhealth? |
| 22:22.59 | Diao | yea |
| 22:23.58 | keiss | finally login works |
| 22:24.02 | Stanzilla | i think lMH4 can act as a standalone addon, too |
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| 22:24.41 | Diao | but other mods that use MH3 won't be able to call lMH4 API will they? |
| 22:24.50 | Diao | since MH3 is a dependency |
| 22:24.55 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61087 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: BasicMinimap: step on 0.01 so you can choose e.g. scale 0.98 instead of just 0.8 0.9 |
| 22:25.50 | Grum | another minimap addon! |
| 22:25.59 | Grum | YAMA! |
| 22:27.58 | chiper | how do you get to sunwell? is there a dock in ghostlands or something? |
| 22:28.57 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61088 10BigWigs/: BigWigs: remove 2 useless properties |
| 22:29.21 | keiss | chiper: flightpath from silvermoon i hear ? |
| 22:29.22 | NivFreak | chiper: FP from outside SMC |
| 22:29.46 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61089 10/branches/BasicMinimap_Extras/: create dir |
| 22:29.47 | chiper | that for alliance too? |
| 22:29.47 | Diao | lol |
| 22:29.50 | NivFreak | or from the ZA FP if you're alliance I assume |
| 22:29.56 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 22:30.02 | chiper | but how do you get the FP save? |
| 22:30.07 | NivFreak | it's already open |
| 22:30.08 | Arrowmaster | if you dont have a flightpath to it just fly to za |
| 22:30.10 | NeoTron | so I guess Sunwell has no new tier drops |
| 22:30.17 | NeoTron | but what it does have is interchangeable items |
| 22:30.19 | NivFreak | NeoTron: it does |
| 22:30.22 | Arrowmaster | tier6 |
| 22:30.23 | NeoTron | dps <-> tank piece |
| 22:30.25 | NivFreak | t6 boot/belt/bracer |
| 22:30.28 | chiper | oh, so it just gets added to everyone at 70? |
| 22:30.30 | NeoTron | I meant NEW tier |
| 22:30.36 | NivFreak | chiper: on the PTR at least |
| 22:30.36 | NeoTron | not extended tier 6 |
| 22:30.42 | Arrowmaster | they said there would not be tier7 |
| 22:30.51 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07dev * r61090 10BasicMinimap_Extras/: create dir |
| 22:30.55 | NivFreak | right |
| 22:30.59 | NivFreak | no tier 7 |
| 22:31.00 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: AQ40 had no tier 4 but rather 2.5 |
| 22:31.09 | NeoTron | no tier 7 doesn't mean no token drops |
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| 22:31.30 | NeoTron | but it's still interesting how you can swap the cloth healing pants for cloth caster dps pants |
| 22:31.32 | NivFreak | this is a problem why? |
| 22:32.04 | NeoTron | NivFreak: did anyone say.. "problem" ? |
| 22:32.05 | keiss | NeoTron: thats actually a nice idea they should have implemented long ago |
| 22:32.32 | NeoTron | why did anyone get the impression I thought this was a bad idea? |
| 22:32.59 | NeoTron | it's a most excellent change - I wish they would make it universal |
| 22:33.09 | keiss | idd |
| 22:33.11 | chiper | did they finally fix character transfers? |
| 22:33.18 | NivFreak | guess I'm just used to PTR QQ |
| 22:33.20 | NivFreak | sorry :) |
| 22:33.46 | NeoTron | it seems you swap only within the same type |
| 22:33.56 | Arrowmaster | and only one direction |
| 22:34.01 | NeoTron | i.e caster mail belt, physical dps mail etc |
| 22:34.17 | NivFreak | wait |
| 22:34.21 | NivFreak | you can swap items? |
| 22:34.24 | NeoTron | so you alwas need sunmotes to get the item of the other set? |
| 22:34.33 | keiss | NivFreak: costs u a sunmote |
| 22:34.41 | Arrowmaster | yes item + sunmote = new item |
| 22:35.04 | NeoTron | NivFreak: yes http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/coverofursolthewise.jpg => http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/coverofursocthemighty.jpg for example |
| 22:35.17 | Arrowmaster | cloth healer chest + sunmote = cloth dps chest |
| 22:35.17 | NeoTron | I hope sunmotes are common |
| 22:35.29 | chiper | oh, I get it. so any tier piece can be permanently exchanged for a different kind of piece and still maintain the set |
| 22:35.30 | NeoTron | or it'd suck to be a dpser... |
| 22:35.33 | Arrowmaster | but we dont know if the cloth dps chest also drops in sunwell or anything yet afaik |
| 22:35.36 | chiper | that's much less exciting |
| 22:35.38 | NeoTron | chiper: not tier piece, just random drop pieces |
| 22:35.38 | NivFreak | NeoTron: more so than vortexs I hope |
| 22:35.47 | NeoTron | more so than HoD's I'd hope too |
| 22:35.47 | Arrowmaster | chiper: they arent tier peices |
| 22:36.02 | chiper | s/tier/set |
| 22:36.03 | NeoTron | the extended T6 is still the same |
| 22:36.09 | Arrowmaster | they arent set pieces |
| 22:36.12 | NeoTron | i.e tokens with 3 classes per |
| 22:36.18 | NivFreak | interesting though |
| 22:36.24 | NivFreak | too bad it doesn't refund your gems/enchant :) |
| 22:36.29 | NivFreak | but not bad |
| 22:36.33 | chiper | ok, then I'm completely confused |
| 22:36.59 | NeoTron | chiper: you get "Belt of Healing" and you turn it in, with a sunmote for "Belt of DPS" |
| 22:37.09 | chiper | ohhhh, ok |
| 22:37.09 | NeoTron | one drop is useful for two specs |
| 22:37.22 | NeoTron | less rot |
| 22:37.25 | keiss | the question is if u can go 'back' with that exchange |
| 22:37.37 | NivFreak | so is the inital drop a token, or just randomly one of the types? |
| 22:37.38 | keiss | not so sure from the sshots so far |
| 22:37.46 | NeoTron | it's an item |
| 22:37.53 | NeoTron | might just be one of the types |
| 22:38.08 | chiper | so then, the initial drop is a gear piece, but it can be treated like a token if no-one with that piece needs it |
| 22:38.21 | NeoTron | or might be both |
| 22:38.34 | NivFreak | they should go back and do that to everything |
| 22:38.38 | Arrowmaster | i havent heard if the items you can get from the vendor can also drop or not |
| 22:38.40 | NeoTron | chiper: in my guild ppl that can use either item would be allowed to bid |
| 22:38.43 | NeoTron | unless sunmotes are rare |
| 22:38.48 | NivFreak | and make it a primal nether to swap it |
| 22:38.48 | NivFreak | or soemthing |
| 22:38.57 | Arrowmaster | but if they cant, im guessing its not going to be wait until nobody needs the item then give it to somebody to turnin |
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| 22:39.17 | NeoTron | the more competition for an iem, the better |
| 22:39.59 | NivFreak | in general :) |
| 22:40.11 | NivFreak | assuming the drop rate is high enough to support the demand |
| 22:40.18 | NivFreak | this seems like a good way to attack it |
| 22:40.28 | chiper | does the item tooltip identify what it can be turned into? |
| 22:40.37 | Diao | gah |
| 22:40.43 | Diao | prat_wim has its own savedvariables |
| 22:40.52 | Diao | need to copy over my old wim ones :( |
| 22:40.53 | NivFreak | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/helmofuthersresolve.jpg |
| 22:40.56 | NivFreak | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/helmofburningrighteousness.jpg |
| 22:41.31 | NivFreak | so sunmotes are BoE |
| 22:41.31 | NivFreak | nice |
| 22:41.51 | NeoTron | so cloth heal/dps mirrors, mail heal/dps, mail hunter/shammy?, plate tank/dps, plate pallytank/heal .. |
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| 22:42.19 | Codayus | Hunter and enh gear aren't on the trade in vendor |
| 22:42.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (because blizzard is stupid and thinks that hunter and enh shammy gear can be itemized the same!) |
| 22:42.44 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: that wasnt you that posted the bagType stuff on the 2.4 thread was it? |
| 22:42.57 | sb_ | Funkeh`: minimap extras? :) |
| 22:43.05 | thul | ok, nerds, I have a question: intel core 2 duo 2.67, samsung 500gb disk, abit ix38-quadGT MB, asus geforce 8600 gt (the gddr3 version), corsair 2x1GB ram, apevia jupiter case and northq silent ATX power supply |
| 22:43.09 | thul | look good so far? |
| 22:43.18 | Funkeh` | sb_, yes? |
| 22:43.23 | sb_ | nah, 8600 sucks, get 8800 |
| 22:43.28 | sb_ | Funkeh`: whats it going to be? :p |
| 22:43.30 | NeoTron | shammies want more strength, hunters more agility typically, no? |
| 22:43.38 | sb_ | NeoTron: yup |
| 22:43.39 | Diao | model number on the 2.67? |
| 22:43.41 | Funkeh` | sb_, movers mainly |
| 22:43.59 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: generally, shammy's also don't need lots of INT or mp/5 |
| 22:44.06 | Elsia | anyone know how to figure out if a UIDropDownMenu is open or not? |
| 22:44.06 | thul | intel core 2 duo e6750 |
| 22:44.08 | thul | it is called |
| 22:44.26 | thul | (and the 8600 cost half of the 8800, the only game I'll be playing is wow :-P ) |
| 22:44.28 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: it could be argued how much a hunter needs that too |
| 22:44.33 | Elsia | :isVisible doesn't seem to return anything useful for it |
| 22:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: true, but from what I hear, hunter dps is heavily mana dependant |
| 22:44.47 | NeoTron | but a good ench shammy should use a lot of shocks and such and watershield won't typically proc |
| 22:44.55 | Diao | oh e6750 is good |
| 22:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | water shield doesn't need to proc anymore :P |
| 22:45.01 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: Illidan bow helps :P |
| 22:45.02 | chiper | thul: that's pretty close to my system |
| 22:45.02 | thul | NeoTron: focus->shocks |
| 22:45.02 | thul | :-P |
| 22:45.07 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: it returns more when it procs |
| 22:45.09 | thul | chiper: ah, ok. happy with it? |
| 22:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: not every guild kills illidan :P |
| 22:45.14 | chiper | very |
| 22:45.20 | thul | going to use it for image editing and wow (and normal office stuff) |
| 22:45.29 | chiper | you've got more ram then me, and I've been wanting to do that upgrade, so that's probably perfect |
| 22:45.36 | thul | hehe, ok :-) |
| 22:45.47 | NeoTron | funny note - the hyjal ring procs on PoM/lifebloom blooms |
| 22:46.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:46.01 | NeoTron | was trying to figure out why it procced randomly on illidan whileI was running away from fire |
| 22:46.07 | Pkekyo| | <--- two kills away from l70 now :) |
| 22:46.15 | chiper | thul: what speed is the ram? |
| 22:46.42 | Pkekyo| | DINGALINGDINGDINGDINGDOOOOOOOOOOOOONG |
| 22:46.56 | thul | chiper: 8500 |
| 22:46.59 | thul | is that too slow? |
| 22:47.12 | chiper | uhh, you have 8.5GHz ram? |
| 22:47.21 | chiper | read that again :) |
| 22:47.25 | thul | noo |
| 22:47.28 | Funkeh` | is someone aware how the hell you get to sunwel island |
| 22:47.34 | Arrowmaster | fly |
| 22:47.39 | Funkeh` | from where |
| 22:47.39 | thul | Corsair Dominator TWIN2X8500C5D 2048MB, DDR2,2x1GB(KIT),DHX,E.P.P, CL5-5-5-15-2T |
| 22:47.40 | HIghoS | fp outside silvermoon |
| 22:47.43 | HIghoS | (if horde) |
| 22:47.43 | thul | there chiper :-P |
| 22:47.54 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: fly to ZA |
| 22:48.14 | Funkeh` | yeah made a lvl1 and tried the fp outside silvermoon but says I don't know any connected |
| 22:48.17 | chiper | thul: hrm, that doesnt say what speed the ram is. |
| 22:48.17 | NeoTron | aer they adding a portal to sunwell? |
| 22:48.19 | Funkeh` | is it a different one? |
| 22:48.21 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: oh |
| 22:48.27 | exor674 | heh, if you are lvl1 swim :P |
| 22:48.28 | Arrowmaster | if your lvl 1 swim |
| 22:48.28 | NeoTron | they just added it to hyjal so ... hope they don't repeat that |
| 22:48.44 | Arrowmaster | from what ive heard yes portal to sunwell |
| 22:48.47 | Funkeh` | bit late now I ran out to silvermoon |
| 22:48.57 | exor674 | Funkeh`: hearth |
| 22:49.12 | Funkeh` | good idea |
| 22:49.20 | exor674 | oh, and if you are gonna swim be a priestie or a pally or something that can heal |
| 22:49.24 | thul | Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC9600 2048MB CL5, Kit w/two matched HyperX 1GB DDR2 <- that is the fastest they got chiper :-P |
| 22:50.20 | chiper | what matters is if the memory speed matches the front-side buss of the CPU and motherboard |
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| 22:50.25 | thul | yea |
| 22:50.32 | thul | but I just use to send a mail to the guys i order from and ask :-P |
| 22:50.36 | thul | since they don't have info on site |
| 22:50.48 | chiper | how much is this costing you? |
| 22:51.05 | thul | the mb supports 1066/800/667 |
| 22:51.10 | thul | it ends up at about 6000 nok |
| 22:51.19 | thul | 1100 usd approx |
| 22:51.41 | chiper | yeah, that's a fair price |
| 22:52.24 | chiper | I built mine for roughly 2/3 that, but I did a LOT of price value comparisons |
| 22:52.33 | Diao | 1100 usd seems pricey for that stats :o |
| 22:52.39 | thul | Diao: I'm in norway |
| 22:52.42 | thul | ok? :-P |
| 22:52.42 | Diao | oh |
| 22:52.44 | Diao | that would explain it |
| 22:52.46 | Diao | lol |
| 22:52.50 | Antiarc | Bleh |
| 22:52.55 | Antiarc | US character copies still aren't online |
| 22:52.57 | thul | i work as security and make $30 usd pr hour |
| 22:52.58 | thul | :-P |
| 22:53.23 | Antiarc | I really don't want to level a warrior to 50, a hunter to 30, a priest to 30, and a paladin to whatever-level-they-get righteous defense on the PTR :( |
| 22:54.03 | ulic | sounds like antiarc needs to make some friends on the ptr |
| 22:54.23 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 22:54.29 | Funkeh` | 5000 dead blood elfs |
| 22:54.29 | Diao | are you allowed to login to ptr and live at the same time |
| 22:54.32 | Funkeh` | in the water |
| 22:54.33 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 22:54.37 | Funkeh` | good thing i made a healer |
| 22:55.18 | Diao | antiarc you can borrow my accounts if you like |
| 22:55.22 | Diao | i have a 70 pally on one |
| 22:55.25 | Diao | and a 70 warr on the other |
| 22:55.29 | Diao | and a 70 priest |
| 22:55.29 | SunTsu | .o0( Anybody good connections to china? Power leveling on PTR anyone? *ducks and runs away* ) |
| 22:55.32 | Antiarc | Diao: You get them xferred? |
| 22:55.35 | Diao | not yet |
| 22:55.37 | Arrowmaster | dont fail Funkeh`, i logging onto ptr but im not fucking summoning you |
| 22:55.39 | Diao | i can do that right now if you want |
| 22:55.40 | Antiarc | I have a 70 war and a 70 priest, just not transferred |
| 22:55.43 | Diao | don't have a hunter though |
| 22:55.43 | Antiarc | Transfer is down :P |
| 22:55.44 | Diao | oh |
| 22:55.48 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, lol I made it |
| 22:55.51 | Antiarc | Which is why I'm complaining :) |
| 22:55.53 | Diao | lol |
| 22:55.57 | Diao | well if you need the pally later |
| 22:55.58 | Antiarc | I have the classes I need on live, I just can't copy them |
| 22:56.00 | Diao | when transfers come back up |
| 22:56.03 | Antiarc | I have a uh, 53 pally |
| 22:56.03 | Diao | oh ok |
| 22:56.05 | Antiarc | Which should work |
| 22:56.07 | sag_ich_nicht | someone explain to me why i'm seeing misses in WWS altho i'm at the hitcap: http://wowwebstats.com/flx5nlxzwi5ww?a=24 |
| 22:56.17 | Funkeh` | not 100% sure how to get o the island surrounded by unkowns Arrowmaster :P |
| 22:56.20 | Funkeh` | on |
| 22:56.27 | Arrowmaster | just die and spirit res |
| 22:56.40 | Arrowmaster | if your on the island you should res at the island gy |
| 22:56.47 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: parry/dodge count as misses in WWS |
| 22:56.47 | Arrowmaster | which is next to the camp |
| 22:56.53 | Antiarc | lern2expertise |
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| 22:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: oh okay |
| 22:57.24 | Arrowmaster | who wants to help me get to brutalis on us pve ptr? |
| 22:57.48 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I'm in! Do you want my level 4 Blood Elf hunter or my level 7 Draenei priest? :P |
| 22:58.23 | Arrowmaster | i need to config addons first though |
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| 22:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. Antiarc |
| 22:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | how's work going with Threat-2.0 |
| 23:00.22 | Diao | beep sylvanaar |
| 23:00.25 | Antiarc | Very well |
| 23:00.31 | Arrowmaster | crap how do i close EditingUI again |
| 23:00.38 | Antiarc | I'm at the point where I need access to high-level abilities to test |
| 23:00.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: press the + button |
| 23:00.48 | Antiarc | But the basics of the conversion are done |
| 23:00.51 | sag_ich_nicht | the BUTTON, not the key on your keyboard |
| 23:01.04 | Arrowmaster | what + button |
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| 23:06.17 | Stanzilla | Deadly Boss Mods 3.10 (PTR) < lol...lame |
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| 23:08.17 | Funkeh` | Yeah well he got logs sent to him also :0 |
| 23:12.08 | Killmore2 | btw, I have a transcrip for kalecgos |
| 23:12.14 | Killmore2 | who want ? |
| 23:12.44 | Funkeh` | you can pm me it |
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| 23:14.19 | Killmore2 | pm you mean, the forum ? |
| 23:14.34 | Arrowmaster | im going to beat some heads if i try to find a group on ptr and get denyed for not having tier6 even though ive done 5/5 hyjal and 5/9 bt |
| 23:15.00 | Funkeh` | Killmore2, doesn't mater as long as you have a link |
| 23:15.08 | Funkeh` | you can irc pm me it |
| 23:15.12 | Antiarc | Are there any people here with a 30+ hunter on the PTR? |
| 23:16.07 | sylvanaar | Diao hm? |
| 23:16.18 | Diao | testing out your prat_wim |
| 23:16.26 | Diao | everytime i whisper someone or someone whispers me a /who window pops up |
| 23:16.34 | Diao | prat did the /who but without the window :O |
| 23:16.49 | thul | hmm |
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| 23:17.09 | Killmore2 | http://www.killmore.org/transcriptor.rar |
| 23:17.13 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
| 23:17.16 | Killmore2 | Funkeh` |
| 23:17.20 | sylvanaar | i think wim did it - prat_wim is just wim - with prats text renderer |
| 23:17.28 | Diao | mm |
| 23:17.28 | Arrowmaster | Blizzard_FeedbackUI +2 MB |
| 23:17.32 | Arrowmaster | WTF! |
| 23:17.34 | Diao | i've been using wim for months and it doesn't pop up the window |
| 23:17.38 | Diao | it does the /who silently somehow |
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| 23:17.55 | Killmore2 | Arrowmaster: yeah i just have this problem yesterday |
| 23:18.00 | Killmore2 | 8mib |
| 23:18.07 | Arrowmaster | fucking moving combatlog |
| 23:18.21 | Arrowmaster | i bet its because that damn feedbackui taints everything |
| 23:18.25 | Arrowmaster | and isnt secure |
| 23:18.50 | Funkeh` | Killmore2, you didn't update transcriptor i gues |
| 23:18.52 | Fin | sylvanaar + Diao: I think that might be something to do with PlayerNames |
| 23:19.13 | sylvanaar | playernames doesnt actively who anything unless you turn on that option |
| 23:19.16 | Arrowmaster | now that im back in silvermoon i can go spec without the lag |
| 23:19.22 | Fin | wasn't there a feature added a while ago that /who'd anybody that whispered you? |
| 23:19.28 | sylvanaar | no |
| 23:19.31 | Fin | ah, yeh, that's what I was thinking of |
| 23:19.34 | Diao | oh |
| 23:19.34 | Killmore2 | Funkeh`: its a yesterday log |
| 23:19.34 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 23:19.36 | Diao | wim does it |
| 23:19.40 | Diao | but it never popped up the window |
| 23:19.50 | Diao | it just did the /who silently and displayed the results in the whisper frame |
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| 23:20.12 | Fin | not conflicting with WhoLib or DrWho or somesuch lib / addon, is it? |
| 23:20.21 | Fin | and, do you have the option enabled in Prat? |
| 23:20.31 | Diao | i don't have wholib or drwho |
| 23:20.37 | Diao | uh |
| 23:20.40 | Diao | what's the option under in prat |
| 23:20.44 | Diao | i don't see it in playernames |
| 23:20.48 | sylvanaar | i have wholib |
| 23:20.52 | sylvanaar | maybe thats your problem |
| 23:20.57 | Fin | kk, just an idea - good luck finding out what the culprit is :) |
| 23:20.59 | sylvanaar | try installing it |
| 23:21.02 | Diao | ok |
| 23:21.43 | Fin | I have WhoLib, and you know what, I really wish it would do what it does when FuBar_WhoLib (or whatever the addon name is) is installed - even though that addon is described as just for WhoLib development |
| 23:21.53 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 23:22.07 | sylvanaar | what does it do? |
| 23:22.14 | sylvanaar | show the queues? |
| 23:22.22 | Fin | no, the actual queueing itself |
| 23:22.31 | sylvanaar | it still does |
| 23:22.51 | sylvanaar | i assume - i actually dont know |
| 23:22.55 | Fin | if I do two /whos in quick succession without the FuBar addon installed, it doesn't work, I only get one query result |
| 23:23.14 | sylvanaar | wierd |
| 23:23.24 | Fin | with the FuBar thingy working, I get the first, then a second or two passes, then I get the second |
| 23:23.36 | Fin | never looked into it, I'm sure it's something simple |
| 23:23.39 | Fin | if only I weren't so lazy |
| 23:23.48 | sylvanaar | you know - I have CallToArms installed - and it has a who engine in it which is better behaved - so maybe that masks some of those issues for me |
| 23:23.49 | Ellipsis | lazy Fin is lazy? |
| 23:23.57 | Fin | lies! |
| 23:24.15 | Fin | CallToArms always looked awesome, I just never actually used it when I had it installed |
| 23:24.28 | sylvanaar | i just use it to monitor the LFG channel |
| 23:24.34 | NeoTron | CTA still works? |
| 23:24.35 | Fin | Dock, though, that's where it's at |
| 23:24.39 | Diao | lol |
| 23:24.43 | Diao | dock is so useless for me :( |
| 23:24.46 | EvilJohn | Call to arms in the past still works better than the LFG system they have now |
| 23:24.53 | Diao | i hide anything permanently that i don't need |
| 23:25.01 | Fin | I don't |
| 23:25.07 | sylvanaar | NeoTron there is a version I am maintaining on the svn |
| 23:25.10 | Fin | I have a bunch of bars and frames that I use every now and again |
| 23:25.37 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61091 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: add sunwell stuff |
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| 23:25.50 | sylvanaar | well, maintaining is not really the right word - more like - I updated it a little bit so I could still use it |
| 23:26.31 | CIA-8 | 03elsia 072.4 * r61092 10Recount/ (. GUI_Main.lua GUI_Realtime.lua Tracker.lua embeds.xml): |
| 23:26.31 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 23:26.31 | CIA-8 | - No longer needs/uses dewdrop. Using UIDropDownMenu instead. |
| 23:26.31 | CIA-8 | - Removed false SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS use |
| 23:26.31 | CIA-8 | - Fixed SPELL_INTERRUPT use to show both interrupting and interrupted spell |
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| 23:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:00] <+Antiarc> I'm at the point where I need access to high-level abilities to test <--nice |
| 23:28.00 | sylvanaar | yeah - they should have made the LFG tool like CTA. Similar to how they made the new combat log almost exactly like SCL |
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| 23:28.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:25] <CIA-8> funkydude * r61091 BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: add sunwell stuff <--that feels wrong. |
| 23:28.46 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 23:28.52 | Kivin | Is it possible to be in more than 3 dungeon queues at the same time? |
| 23:29.00 | Diao | not that i know of |
| 23:30.23 | Kivin | a pity |
| 23:34.22 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r61093 10/branches/Threat-2.0/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Threat-2.0: Core is heavily slimmed down, class core is a lot more compact, new transaction stuff, GUID interface is taking shape. Lots yet to do! |
| 23:34.36 | NivFreak | 2.0 hotness |
| 23:35.11 | NivFreak | is there an omen/threat combo that works on the PTR atm? |
| 23:35.15 | Antiarc | No |
| 23:35.17 | Elsia | no |
| 23:35.21 | NivFreak | fun |
| 23:35.24 | Antiarc | There's not even a Threat that works on the PTR ATM :P |
| 23:35.29 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:35.31 | Antiarc | That's what I'm working on though |
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| 23:35.38 | NivFreak | it's been so long since I tanked without a threat meter |
| 23:36.38 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r61094 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: add Sunwell |
| 23:39.28 | sylvanaar | i love altnames - my guild has so many alts in it i dont know what id do |
| 23:40.57 | Daemona | GARGL why is the combat log moving by itself on the ptr ?" |
| 23:41.39 | chiper | so, this guid thing. every npc has a unique guid, right? |
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| 23:41.54 | chiper | am I understanding that correctly? |
| 23:41.56 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: thing maybe tonumber(string.sub(GUID,-12,-7),16) should be added to LibGUIDRegistry for getting npcids from guids? |
| 23:42.02 | Antiarc | chiper: Correct |
| 23:42.10 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: That'd be pretty sexy, actually. |
| 23:42.22 | chiper | did bliz provide a way to make a unit frame based on guid? |
| 23:42.28 | Antiarc | No |
| 23:42.29 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:42.32 | chiper | damn |
| 23:42.58 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you on ptr? |
| 23:43.05 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yeah, lowbies though |
| 23:43.10 | Arrowmaster | name |
| 23:43.17 | Antiarc | Uhh |
| 23:43.21 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: is there any way to get the GUID without interacting (hitting) a mob? |
| 23:43.24 | Antiarc | Cerothia is the BE I'm logged on as ATM |
| 23:43.27 | Antiarc | Threatdev is my draenei |
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| 23:43.34 | Antiarc | ckknight: No |
| 23:43.39 | ckknight | :-( |
| 23:43.40 | Antiarc | ckknight: You can Hunter's Mark/Mind Vision it |
| 23:43.43 | Antiarc | But other than that, no |
| 23:43.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the mob must show up in combatlog |
| 23:43.57 | ckknight | bad Blizz |
| 23:44.12 | chiper | well that blows, so you can't define target data prior to combat |
| 23:44.12 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: [2008/02/12 18:42:56-2724-x1]: Threat-2.0\Threat-2.0.lua:72: Cannot find a library instance of "LibGUIDRegistry-0.1". |
| 23:44.19 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: fix your optdeps |
| 23:44.23 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I don't have externals set up, you'll have to do that :P |
| 23:44.30 | Antiarc | It's using Ace3 and LibGUIDRegistry right now |
| 23:44.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont use externals |
| 23:44.42 | Antiarc | Also, that commit will barely work if at all, FYI |
| 23:44.58 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Pff, fine, whatever :P |
| 23:45.28 | Fin | there's no equivalent of a LogOutNow() function, is there? or some way to effect that? |
| 23:45.52 | ckknight | sadly, no, wish there was |
| 23:45.57 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r61095 10/branches/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.toc: Threat-2.0: Add opdeps |
| 23:46.25 | Fin | s'pose I could keep another copy of WoW running and just log in again |
| 23:47.13 | chiper | wtb second focus ID |
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| 23:58.26 | Arrowmaster | ....... |
| 23:58.32 | Arrowmaster | i go to move my main chatframe |
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| 23:58.44 | Arrowmaster | and the combatlog starts running up my screen |
| 23:59.41 | Elsia | nite |
