| 00:00.03 | LePeR|Jaunia | for some reason |
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| 00:00.34 | Diao | sure douthat |
| 00:00.53 | Diao | us servers? |
| 00:01.24 | Pkekyo| | wtf is 'resurrect-a-friend'? |
| 00:01.25 | Cryect | estala look in the 2.4 branch |
| 00:01.39 | Diao | gives someone who hasn't played in 3 months a 10 day guest pass |
| 00:01.44 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 00:01.51 | Cryect | and then if they resubscribe you get a month free |
| 00:02.16 | Pkekyo| | that's awesome |
| 00:02.18 | Cryect | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Transcriptor/2.4/ |
| 00:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | argh. fuck you blizzard. there's a nethercite ore spawn thats outside the area where you have dragonmaw illusion, so you cant mine it |
| 00:04.34 | Ellipsis | yeah, there's a couple like that |
| 00:05.33 | Antiarc | Is there a way to get the player's GUID? |
| 00:05.44 | Antiarc | Without a combat log event? |
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| 00:08.20 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer 07Julith * r60883 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusHeals.lua): |
| 00:08.20 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 00:08.20 | CIA-10 | * GridFrame: changed the way bars are setpoint-ed to the barbg to make things easier for addons that muck with bar width. |
| 00:08.20 | CIA-10 | * GridStatusHeals: added simple HealComm version check. |
| 00:08.31 | Arrowmaster | where does NRT put the class data in the ctrt exporter? |
| 00:08.46 | Arrowmaster | does it put it in the join section of the xml? |
| 00:08.52 | Arrowmaster | if it doesnt thats the reason |
| 00:09.06 | Diao | in the loot section only |
| 00:09.08 | estala | bleh |
| 00:09.11 | estala | don't have SVN client installed |
| 00:09.21 | estala | will that transcriptor work if I copy down the files |
| 00:09.27 | Diao | or is that item class |
| 00:09.40 | douthat | Diao: hey, did you get my message? |
| 00:09.47 | Diao | nope i didn't o: |
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| 00:10.02 | Ellipsis | ping Maldivia |
| 00:13.31 | LePeR|Jaunia | Arrowmaster: im not sure exactly.. i've just been playing around on line 1596 in nrt.lua |
| 00:13.54 | Firelemming | i have a problem with rockdb. i use it with the fubarplugin3 lib and it doesnt restore hide text or the hide icon option. it does save the fubar location. anybody a idea? |
| 00:14.16 | douthat | Diao: I don't know why you're not getting my messages :( so you just need my character name and server? |
| 00:14.26 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:14.33 | douthat | Daboozugzug / Malfurion |
| 00:14.43 | Arrowmaster | the ctrt xml need the class race and level in the the join section of the xml |
| 00:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | douthat: you need to register and be identified with nickserv to send messages on freenode |
| 00:15.15 | Diao | sent |
| 00:15.17 | douthat | NightHawkTheSane: ahh thanks. that would do it. I forgot my password, so I've been having trouble identifying |
| 00:15.33 | Diao | you should receive it soon |
| 00:15.42 | lagger | anyon eknow the arguments for CombatLogAddFilter? |
| 00:15.43 | douthat | Diao: Thanks :) |
| 00:15.49 | Diao | np |
| 00:19.11 | LePeR|Jaunia | know what line you need between the class tags? |
| 00:20.49 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: have you taken a look at the lib i put in branches? would you find it useful for threat-1.1? |
| 00:20.58 | Antiarc | Which lib is that? |
| 00:21.20 | Ellipsis | the GUID lib |
| 00:21.35 | Antiarc | Oooooh |
| 00:21.37 | Antiarc | Link prz |
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| 00:21.59 | Antiarc | LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 - that one? |
| 00:22.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:22.07 | omeow | Hey there. |
| 00:22.12 | Antiarc | I will VERY definitely look at it |
| 00:22.34 | Arrowmaster | its all drycode |
| 00:22.38 | Arrowmaster | just a basic idea |
| 00:22.38 | Antiarc | Do you have docs, or is the code the doc? :P |
| 00:22.51 | Arrowmaster | its not that big |
| 00:23.00 | Antiarc | I know, but you have to remember - |
| 00:23.00 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be hard to understand the code |
| 00:23.02 | Antiarc | I'm lazy! |
| 00:23.05 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 00:23.20 | Antiarc | I really, really, REALLY like the idea. |
| 00:23.24 | Antiarc | I'm definitely going to use it. |
| 00:23.28 | Antiarc | Or something like it. |
| 00:24.45 | Arrowmaster | i figure if enough people like it we can work together and make a real good one for 2.4 |
| 00:26.27 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking of abusing part of CBH to make it only do the unit info stuff if an addon registers an even, even if that even never gets called |
| 00:27.16 | Corgan | Converting hex string to decimal number, how2? |
| 00:27.35 | Arrowmaster | tonumber |
| 00:27.49 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("0xFF") |
| 00:27.50 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 255, |
| 00:28.12 | Corgan | <3 |
| 00:30.23 | Firelemming | where can i read the exact changes they made with the combatlog? |
| 00:30.31 | TNSe | lol |
| 00:30.41 | Cryect | ui forums |
| 00:30.53 | TNSe | so what is the problem with omen stopping to display tank if he stops autoattacking :P |
| 00:31.15 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:31.21 | Ellipsis | wrong event for dropping combat? |
| 00:31.35 | TNSe | its not a huge bug |
| 00:31.37 | Kerafyrm | anyone know what the 'issue' is with toon copies to ptr? heh |
| 00:31.47 | TNSe | but annoying when tank decides to stop autoattacking because his threat is 'big enough' |
| 00:32.20 | LePeR|Jaunia | just huge load on the transfers |
| 00:32.22 | Diao | what |
| 00:32.28 | Diao | there's no such thing as too much threat when tanking |
| 00:32.30 | Diao | that's impossible |
| 00:32.37 | Diao | unless you're OTing |
| 00:32.46 | Cryect | why would your tank stop autoattacking? |
| 00:32.52 | LePeR|Jaunia | avoid parrys |
| 00:33.32 | Diao | get more expertise! |
| 00:33.35 | TNSe | during silences on assgalore etc |
| 00:33.36 | LePeR|Jaunia | i do it on my druid all the time when i double people in threat |
| 00:33.44 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer 07Julith * r60884 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 00:33.44 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 00:33.44 | CIA-10 | * GridFrame: renamed 'Faded Bar' to 'Healing Bar' |
| 00:34.22 | Diao | if you do that much threat your dpsers are failing |
| 00:34.27 | Cryect | yeah |
| 00:34.32 | LePeR|Jaunia | not really |
| 00:34.34 | TNSe | heh, he has enough expertise, but against assgalore you need a shitload of effective health |
| 00:34.36 | Cryect | yes really |
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| 00:34.41 | LePeR|Jaunia | can generate alot of threat so its not a big deal |
| 00:34.54 | Diao | uh |
| 00:34.55 | Cryect | you shouldn't be able to deal 2x more than the closest person |
| 00:35.07 | Cryect | the closest person should be 5% at least over yours really |
| 00:35.10 | Diao | seriously |
| 00:35.16 | Diao | if your dpsers can't pull off at least 1k tps |
| 00:35.18 | Diao | with salv |
| 00:35.20 | Diao | they're failing |
| 00:35.28 | Diao | since the best tanks in the world can barely pull 1k tps |
| 00:35.30 | Antiarc | If you are 2x-ing your DPS's threat, get better DPS |
| 00:35.33 | LePeR|Jaunia | 1500 |
| 00:35.57 | Diao | i call bs |
| 00:36.03 | Diao | unless it's a gimmick fight |
| 00:36.20 | Diao | wws parses show top tanks around the world averaging 900-1k |
| 00:36.25 | LePeR|Jaunia | well a fight like az the dps'ers are not on him the full fight |
| 00:36.41 | LePeR|Jaunia | dps is split between the adds and him |
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| 00:37.47 | Cryect | you dps the adds on azg? |
| 00:37.51 | LePeR|Jaunia | i tank |
| 00:37.55 | LePeR|Jaunia | az |
| 00:38.00 | LePeR|Jaunia | hense the double threat |
| 00:38.09 | Cryect | well its strange you have the DPS dpsing the adds I meant |
| 00:38.21 | Arrowmaster | fuck whats the command to reset OverrideBindings |
| 00:38.32 | LePeR|Jaunia | we have ranged mainly on az melee on adds |
| 00:38.45 | LePeR|Jaunia | till about 25% or so |
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| 00:39.18 | Arrowmaster | ~api ClearOverrideBindings() |
| 00:39.19 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings() |
| 00:39.36 | Arrowmaster | !api ClearOverrideBindings() |
| 00:39.37 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings() |
| 00:39.40 | Arrowmaster | !api ClearOverrideBindings |
| 00:39.41 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearOverrideBindings |
| 00:39.45 | TNSe | heh |
| 00:39.53 | TNSe | yeah, on assgalore tank threat isnt an issue |
| 00:40.05 | TNSe | due to silences and you dont want melee in there all the time |
| 00:40.19 | TNSe | only hunters get to do fulltime dps, and they can drop threat entirely |
| 00:41.52 | Kerafyrm | Antiarc, ping |
| 00:41.58 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 00:42.07 | Gngsk | haste, my ping a few hours ago was about butsu not obeying loot under mouse on PTR, seems they changed the global to a CVar lootUnderMouse |
| 00:42.11 | Diao | ClearOverrideBindings(owner) Arrowmaster |
| 00:42.13 | Kerafyrm | Hola, Do you know if Blizz is starting to block your armorytools? |
| 00:42.17 | Kerafyrm | ie: ip bans, or what not |
| 00:42.31 | Antiarc | I don't think so, but I think they are throttling requests, so any requests beyond 1/sec return empty data |
| 00:42.37 | Antiarc | So I need to add throttling to my requests |
| 00:42.45 | chexsum | omg 2 copied! |
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| 00:43.07 | TNSe | they should just add a second xml request in addition to the webpage |
| 00:43.20 | Arrowmaster | Gngsk: they did, you can check the diffs for the LootFrame.lua |
| 00:43.20 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60885 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 00:43.21 | CIA-10 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 00:43.21 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
| 00:43.23 | TNSe | so you can just request pure data instead of additional html :P |
| 00:43.33 | chexsum | can someone tell me how to test for set flags in the new combatlogevent? |
| 00:43.34 | Gngsk | Arrowmaster, yah, that's how I figured it out |
| 00:43.36 | Kerafyrm | I've been running your SVN for a long time now... just today I've been getting Fatal error: Call to a member function xpath() on a non-object in /somepath/create_sig.php on line 85 |
| 00:43.43 | chexsum | ...save me reading :P |
| 00:44.00 | Kerafyrm | lil bit of poking around shows that when i try to get to wowarmory.com on port 80 its just a connection reset |
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| 00:47.35 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60886 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 00:47.35 | CIA-10 | AutoBar : |
| 00:47.35 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
| 00:48.22 | Antiarc | Hm. I haven't heard of them blocking it at all. |
| 00:48.29 | Antiarc | But I'm pretty sure they are throttling it. |
| 00:49.09 | chexsum | if bit.band(sourceFlags,COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER) then -- source is player-controlled end |
| 00:49.22 | chexsum | is that how you do a check for a flag ? |
| 00:49.32 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 00:49.35 | Antiarc | bitwise and |
| 00:49.43 | chexsum | ty |
| 00:50.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:50.19 | Kerafyrm | Its odd, because right now I'm tunneled to my ded and can get to the main site, forums, ptr web login, but wowarmory is the only one that comes back 'Connection has been reset'.. gonna try using an alternate ip |
| 00:50.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(0x01,0x00) |
| 00:50.35 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0, |
| 00:50.45 | Corgan | lua> tonumber("0x000606B") |
| 00:50.45 | lua_bot | Corgan: 24683, |
| 00:50.46 | Arrowmaster | lua> if bit.band(0x01,0x00) then return true) |
| 00:50.47 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "if bit.band(0x01,0x00) then return true)"]:1: 'end' expected near ')' |
| 00:50.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> if bit.band(0x01,0x00) then return true end |
| 00:50.52 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 00:51.17 | RaydenUni | for mara portal, all party members need the staff? |
| 00:51.27 | Arrowmaster | you need to do if bit.band(sourceFlags,COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER) == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER then |
| 00:52.09 | chexsum | ko |
| 00:52.14 | kebinusan | RaydenUni: just one |
| 00:52.50 | Kerafyrm | Antiarc: No doubt about it.. added a route for outbound traffic to wowarmory.com to use another ip address i have and it worked right off the bat. |
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| 00:53.27 | Antiarc | Kerafyrm: It may be throttled by IP, so you might be temporarily blocked or something |
| 00:53.39 | Antiarc | I haven't heard of them blocking it though. |
| 00:53.53 | Kerafyrm | kk |
| 00:53.57 | Kerafyrm | i'll keep an eye on things |
| 00:54.41 | lagger | anyone know what SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE is? |
| 00:54.58 | Arrowmaster | for stacking buffs |
| 00:55.02 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 00:55.11 | Arrowmaster | or atleast stacking auras |
| 00:55.21 | Arrowmaster | i think theres a seperate one for buffs so thats weird |
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| 00:56.37 | Corgan | lua> tonumber("000606B") |
| 00:56.37 | lua_bot | Corgan: nil, |
| 00:56.39 | Corgan | bloops |
| 00:56.50 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 00:56.51 | Corgan | lua> tonumber("0x000606B") |
| 00:56.51 | lua_bot | Corgan: 24683, |
| 00:56.59 | Zhinjio | What setting in pitbull makes frames "flash" |
| 00:57.01 | Zhinjio | ? |
| 00:57.27 | Zhinjio | my pet frame is flashing at me, and I can't figure out why. |
| 00:57.33 | Zhinjio | MMMOOOOOM ... make it stop! |
| 00:58.49 | chiper | erm, there's an option that causes that, hang on let me look |
| 00:59.08 | chiper | combatfader |
| 00:59.13 | chiper | turn off the combat fader module |
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| 01:02.45 | Zhinjio | Feh, TourGuide isn't available on WAU? Hmm. |
| 01:02.45 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("000606B", 16) |
| 01:02.46 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 24683, |
| 01:02.50 | chiper | fun, BG server just crashed |
| 01:03.03 | Zhinjio | thanks chiper |
| 01:03.14 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: never was, never will be |
| 01:03.46 | Arrowmaster | Corgan: you can do tonumber("000606B", 16) too, safer to always do tonumber(string, 16) when you know its a hex string |
| 01:04.04 | Corgan | yeah, that's what I did |
| 01:04.05 | Corgan | :) |
| 01:04.16 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: usually a conflict between combatfader and rangecheck modules |
| 01:04.17 | Parnic | ~seen kaelten |
| 01:04.21 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 2h 2m 20s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 01:05.26 | Zhinjio | *nod* ... turned off combatfader. |
| 01:05.44 | Ellipsis | silly devs and their non-pet classes |
| 01:05.54 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 01:05.55 | Ellipsis | I don't know why nobody's fixed the defaults so that doesn't happen |
| 01:06.05 | ckknight_ | ~seen neronix |
| 01:06.06 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 447d 1h 26m 50s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'. |
| 01:06.13 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i turned off combat fader by default |
| 01:06.19 | ckknight_ | ~seen kaelten |
| 01:06.20 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 2h 4m 19s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 01:06.29 | Zhinjio | so where might I find it? |
| 01:06.35 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: but when you enable the module it still defaults to acting on the pet frame, yes? |
| 01:06.47 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: no, i defaulted everything to being disabled |
| 01:06.47 | Zhinjio | I assume someone's googlecode repository |
| 01:07.08 | Ellipsis | awesome |
| 01:07.25 | Ellipsis | are you maintaining it or did you just do the one fix? |
| 01:07.32 | JoshBorke | quite frankly it never should have been put into the main addon |
| 01:08.03 | JoshBorke | but, it's ckknight's addon so it's his decision |
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| 01:08.22 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i did a one time fix, why, does it not work? |
| 01:08.36 | Ellipsis | there are some issues with it, which I was planning to work on (eventually) |
| 01:08.44 | Ellipsis | didn't want to step on anyone's toes, so I thought I'd check |
| 01:08.57 | JoshBorke | like what? i'm the original author and i'd be happy to help, but i'm not going to do a lot of work on it ;-) |
| 01:09.03 | JoshBorke | especially since i no longer use it |
| 01:09.22 | Ellipsis | eh, the recently applied patch doesn't work 100% |
| 01:09.41 | Ellipsis | for example, if mana ticks bring you up to full mana/health, it won't update (presumably not listening for UNIT_MANA) |
| 01:09.57 | JoshBorke | barfader or combatfader? |
| 01:10.03 | Ellipsis | combatfader |
| 01:10.15 | RaydenUni | rogues can have trouble finishing their lvl 50 quest due to rep? |
| 01:10.16 | JoshBorke | why should it care about that? |
| 01:10.37 | JoshBorke | oh, because it has health/mana parameters |
| 01:10.37 | Ellipsis | ah, you haven't seen the patch then :) |
| 01:10.38 | RaydenUni | my friend said he couldn't pickpocket some people he needed to cause he was friendly |
| 01:10.40 | JoshBorke | i don't remember doing that.. |
| 01:10.43 | Ellipsis | you didn't |
| 01:10.44 | RaydenUni | some shaman in az |
| 01:10.46 | Ellipsis | someone else submitted it |
| 01:11.00 | JoshBorke | wow, and i thought i was the only user of combatfader |
| 01:11.17 | Ellipsis | I use it now that those other options exist |
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| 01:12.30 | JoshBorke | cool, i'm glad to hear it |
| 01:13.04 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: that rogue needs to l2click the "at war" button. |
| 01:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | and possibly also be less of an idiot |
| 01:14.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:14.37 | Arrowmaster | you just go at war, pickpock, then turn it off |
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| 01:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | amusingly, i only discovered last week that you can't actually toggle at-war while in combat >< |
| 01:15.43 | NightHawkTheSane | So, I was stuck in combat with that quest dragon in netherstorm, him beating the snot out of me, and me unable to attack him, because I was friendly with netherwing. >< |
| 01:16.22 | Arrowmaster | rofl? |
| 01:16.37 | Arrowmaster | did you report it on the forums as a bug? |
| 01:16.39 | WobWork | fd ftw =) |
| 01:16.50 | NightHawkTheSane | no :P |
| 01:16.54 | Arrowmaster | you should |
| 01:17.07 | RaydenUni | my cartographer is all screwed up |
| 01:17.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they already know, as its in the patch notes for 2.4 |
| 01:17.09 | RaydenUni | it won't do waypoitns |
| 01:17.13 | RaydenUni | and it no longer gives me info about zones |
| 01:17.33 | Ellipsis | sounds like you failed RaydenUni |
| 01:17.40 | Arrowmaster | because even goblins are attackable when your not at war with them but they attack you |
| 01:18.10 | RaydenUni | screwed up locationfu too |
| 01:18.16 | Ellipsis | sounds like you REALLY failed |
| 01:18.18 | RaydenUni | it knows nothing abou tmy location |
| 01:18.35 | Ellipsis | well, get on with it, what are the error messages? |
| 01:18.45 | Arrowmaster | RaydenUni: sound like maybe a libtourist issue? |
| 01:18.59 | Ellipsis | tourist or babble-zone, one of the two |
| 01:19.23 | RaydenUni | i just need to run an update i think |
| 01:19.28 | RaydenUni | haven't since yestereday |
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| 01:23.48 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60887 10PitBull/ (3 files in 2 dirs): PitBull - add CallbackHandler-1.0, since LibHealComm-3.0 uses it |
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| 01:31.04 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60888 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc embeds.xml libs/ libs/CallbackHandler-1.0/): |
| 01:31.04 | CIA-10 | PitBull - properly include CallbackHandler-1.0, did it wrong before. |
| 01:31.04 | CIA-10 | - also, wtf is with Ace3 not using lib.xml like every other new library out |
| 01:31.04 | CIA-10 | there, why does it make me do <Include |
| 01:31.06 | CIA-10 | file="libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.xml"/> instead of <Include |
| 01:31.07 | CIA-10 | file="libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\lib.xml"/>? |
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| 01:31.32 | JoshBorke | lol, way to push an agenda in a commit message :-P |
| 01:31.33 | Knaledge | I'm using Pitbull, just updated via SVN like 3 minutes ago |
| 01:31.42 | Knaledge | and I still cannot get anyone's health bar to update |
| 01:31.49 | Knaledge | mobs, me, NPCs |
| 01:31.52 | Knaledge | party, raid |
| 01:31.56 | ckknight | JoshBorke: maybe someone will pay attention |
| 01:31.58 | Knaledge | no ones health bar is updating |
| 01:32.06 | kergoth | JoshBorke: heh, to be fair, it's a good point. duplicating the name unnecessarily is silly |
| 01:32.09 | ckknight | Knaledge: got an error? |
| 01:32.26 | Knaledge | something about GetIncomingHeal |
| 01:32.27 | Knaledge | hold on |
| 01:32.31 | JoshBorke | indeed, iti s a great point |
| 01:32.39 | JoshBorke | one that would make an excellent jira issue ;-) |
| 01:32.49 | ckknight | I did make that issue, JoshBorke |
| 01:32.53 | ckknight | it's like ACE-7 or something |
| 01:33.08 | ckknight | something low |
| 01:34.05 | Knaledge | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/82004 |
| 01:34.07 | JoshBorke | it appears that there was no discussion about it |
| 01:34.13 | Knaledge | UnitIncomingHeal |
| 01:34.32 | RaydenUni | what is the quest that requires you to talk to all the spirit guys in mara? |
| 01:34.53 | Ellipsis | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-8 |
| 01:34.54 | ckknight | it's ACE-8, JoshBorke |
| 01:35.00 | JoshBorke | "Name of the .xml is up to the author"; "I think we should at least use AceFoo-3.0/AceFoo-3.0.xml as the standard for core ace libs" |
| 01:35.03 | Gnarfoz | how is it, that Recount's memory usage can increase by over 2 MB while I have the "global data collection" toggle off and the addon on standby? oO |
| 01:35.06 | JoshBorke | and there were no statements after that |
| 01:35.19 | Knaledge | ckknight: use my name if you respond, in the middle of a raid |
| 01:35.24 | ckknight | k |
| 01:35.42 | aestil | is anyone working on a new damage meter that is wws in game? |
| 01:35.51 | Ellipsis | hold your horses aestil |
| 01:35.55 | Ellipsis | we're still figuring out the new combat log format |
| 01:36.17 | ckknight | Knaledge: something's bugged with LibHealComm in your version, possibly the lack of CallbackHandler-1.0, which is fixed now |
| 01:36.18 | Gnarfoz | also, nothing will be able to replace WWS :> |
| 01:36.40 | Chompers | not until 2.4 you mean |
| 01:36.43 | aestil | gnarfoz, maybe not replace, but like... have similar tools. |
| 01:36.55 | Knaledge | ckknight: so pulling the next commit of Pitbull via SVN will resolve it? |
| 01:37.02 | Gnarfoz | the simple matter of it not being an ingame addon |
| 01:37.05 | ckknight | yes, kan |
| 01:37.06 | Knaledge | I just updated like 5 minutes ago.. or 3 minutes before I posted here |
| 01:37.09 | ckknight | Knaledge* |
| 01:37.16 | Knaledge | ok great thank you :) |
| 01:37.22 | ckknight | sorry bout that |
| 01:38.21 | Ellipsis | give it about 5-10 mins and update again, should be fixed in the :40 packaging |
| 01:38.25 | Corgan | This new combat log stuff is fun :) |
| 01:38.48 | Killmore | anyone know a place where the explain the new mana regen mechanic with mana pool etc.. ? |
| 01:40.03 | Diao | you mean with int |
| 01:40.23 | Diao | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t21280-intellect_-_spirit_conversion_ptr_theorycrafting_hq/ |
| 01:41.57 | NightHawkTheSane | "What's so unpleasant about being drunk?" "Ask a glass of water." |
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| 01:45.15 | ckknight | btw, I'm working on LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 01:45.35 | ckknight | which is like MobHealth3, but (a) more efficient (b) in library form |
| 01:45.43 | ckknight | (c) less options for users, but shouldn't matter too much |
| 01:47.59 | Arrowmaster | keep it away from trunk for a while, ive got an idea for enhancing mobhealth for 2.4 but it would take a while to gather the info to do it |
| 01:48.41 | ckknight | want to see my code? |
| 01:48.45 | ckknight | I'd be happy working with you |
| 01:48.48 | JoshBorke | lol, the interface options frame doesn't resize well |
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| 01:49.35 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: also, 2.4 is a ways off, and the internals can always be changed after-the-fact |
| 01:49.49 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 01:50.02 | ckknight | the API's a bit cleaner than MobHealth3's as well |
| 01:50.10 | ckknight | I'll pastey the code, I'm just testing it now |
| 01:50.34 | Arrowmaster | make sure you do focus too and not just target |
| 01:50.45 | Arrowmaster | i think mobhealth3 still has that limitation |
| 01:50.54 | JoshBorke | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8896d757a2831fe57e3d0ba87e469e7e.jpg <-- the right align |
| 01:50.58 | ckknight | yea, I was thinking about doing that, Arrowmaster |
| 01:51.13 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/82005 |
| 01:51.16 | ckknight | that's what I have now |
| 01:51.28 | Arrowmaster | middle of raiding, cant open a browser |
| 01:51.32 | Arrowmaster | need more ram |
| 01:51.44 | ckknight | ick |
| 01:51.51 | Arrowmaster | only 1 gig =( |
| 01:52.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh, also, I add in support for pets in LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 01:52.18 | ckknight | MobHealth3 just ignored em |
| 01:52.24 | ckknight | and the data format is a lot cleaner |
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| 01:52.55 | ckknight | uses data = { [level] = { [mobname] = 1234 } } instead of data = { [mobname .. ":" .. level] = 1234 } |
| 01:53.11 | ckknight | due to the way lua uses string interning, it works out a lot nicer |
| 01:54.10 | Arrowmaster | im wondering if the part of the guid that identifies the mob 'family' or whatever you want to call it that slouken mentions would be of use |
| 01:56.11 | ckknight | could be |
| 01:56.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: mind taking a look at the lib i posted up on the lib forums? link to svn branch in post, and i know ive butchered some data storage stuff in it |
| 01:56.38 | ckknight | will do. |
| 01:56.40 | Arrowmaster | probably some better ways of doing it |
| 01:57.40 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: the API is this: :GetMaxHP("name", level) returning number/nil, :GetUnitMaxHP("unit") returning number, boolean, :GetUnitCurrentHP("unit") returning number, boolean, :GetUnitHealth("unit") returning number, number, boolean |
| 01:57.41 | ckknight | that's it |
| 01:57.52 | ckknight | and I think that's a pretty good API |
| 01:57.58 | ckknight | any of the internals can change after the fact |
| 01:58.38 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you mean LibGUIDRegistry-1.0? |
| 01:58.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:58.46 | Arrowmaster | 0.1 |
| 01:58.56 | Arrowmaster | cuz i dont know wtf im doing is all drycode |
| 01:59.15 | ckknight | 0.1, I meant |
| 01:59.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:00.23 | Arrowmaster | think we're pulling soon |
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| 02:01.31 | ckknight | in your raid? |
| 02:01.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:01.41 | ckknight | cool |
| 02:01.56 | Arrowmaster | was taking a break to swap out people and do some respecs |
| 02:02.14 | ckknight | okay, something I'm adding to LibMobHealth-4.0: |
| 02:02.27 | ckknight | if you see a Young Bear, lvl 15 |
| 02:02.30 | ckknight | you don't know its HP |
| 02:02.37 | ckknight | but you do know the HP of a lvl 14 one |
| 02:02.45 | ckknight | it could take the hp * 15/14 |
| 02:02.47 | ckknight | and provide that |
| 02:02.55 | ckknight | as a "good enough" guess |
| 02:03.06 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 02:03.18 | ckknight | once you start hitting it, it'll allocate proper data |
| 02:03.43 | kenlyric | reasonable |
| 02:03.50 | kenlyric | will you indicate guesses? |
| 02:04.10 | Ellipsis | everything it returns is a guess |
| 02:04.12 | ckknight | I hope you realize that everything MobHealth does is a guess |
| 02:04.24 | ckknight | you can never be 100% accurate unless you have Beast Lore |
| 02:04.31 | ckknight | essentially |
| 02:04.53 | kenlyric | I didn't even realize mobhealth wasn't a lib until I redid my installation a few weeks ago and skipped it. |
| 02:05.56 | ckknight | it'll go 2 levels higher and lower to check for that kind of estimate, methinks |
| 02:06.12 | ckknight | any more than that and it's too unlikely for the mob to exist |
| 02:06.34 | ckknight | oh, also, LibMobHealth-4.0 will properly support cross-battlegrounds players |
| 02:06.41 | ckknight | that was never supported in MobHealth3, surprisingly |
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| 02:07.22 | aestil | a lib for mob health? |
| 02:07.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:07.29 | aestil | aren't there mods that do that just fine? |
| 02:07.30 | ckknight | working on it now |
| 02:07.34 | aestil | like mobhealth3? |
| 02:07.39 | ckknight | aestil: yes, but it's not a lib |
| 02:07.43 | ckknight | where it really should be |
| 02:07.57 | aestil | why would mods outside of unit frames need that info? |
| 02:08.07 | aestil | its just a way to share information between ufs and tooltips? |
| 02:08.12 | kenlyric | well, unit frames need them |
| 02:08.20 | ckknight | they wouldn't, but unit frames use them |
| 02:08.21 | ckknight | so... |
| 02:08.46 | aestil | i'm not complaining. you're saying its better as a lib cause it makes more sense, or because it will be smaller/more efficient? or both? |
| 02:09.09 | Stanzilla | that would stop people complaining about "qq I only see 100/100 of the mob's health" if you embed it.. |
| 02:09.16 | ckknight | aestil: both |
| 02:09.22 | ckknight | Stanzilla: I agree. |
| 02:09.35 | ckknight | I already got DogTag working with it :-P |
| 02:09.38 | ckknight | I'm gonna add in focus support |
| 02:09.44 | ckknight | then I'll likely commit |
| 02:09.53 | aestil | dogtag intergration is interesting. |
| 02:09.59 | kenlyric | it would preclude the option of storing mob health information, which hopefully nobody does anyway (but I think mobhealth3 has that option |
| 02:10.00 | aestil | especially if aloft would use dogtag. |
| 02:10.02 | ckknight | aestil: it already has it for MobHealth3 |
| 02:10.03 | Knaledge | ckknight: that fixed it |
| 02:10.05 | Knaledge | thank you |
| 02:10.16 | ckknight | kenlyric: if you use it as an external addon, it will save, otherwise it won't |
| 02:10.18 | aestil | aloft is teh sex. |
| 02:10.30 | ckknight | kenlyric: not sure I'll keep it that way, though |
| 02:10.43 | Stanzilla | aestil: I agree..but that TagCompiler lib is crap |
| 02:10.57 | aestil | what is tagcomplier lib? |
| 02:11.29 | Stanzilla | the thing that Aloft uses |
| 02:11.42 | RaydenUni | anything special at pvp 49 for druids i should stick around and get? |
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| 02:13.04 | ckknight_ | bah |
| 02:14.27 | mjc2 | "Download and install 52 addons?" ugh |
| 02:14.29 | mjc2 | I suck! |
| 02:15.06 | mjc2 | RaydenUni: no, juts get to 55 as fast as y ou can and get your epic'd 70 friends to run you through BF |
| 02:16.11 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: add my unequip all gear button in wowequip yet? :) |
| 02:16.33 | kadrahil | mjc2: heya, ltns |
| 02:16.37 | Xinhuan | not yet, i spent all of last night updating gathermate and routes |
| 02:16.42 | kadrahil | mjc2: it's jme from #gah etc |
| 02:16.46 | Xinhuan | we've implemented some major new stuff in both |
| 02:16.46 | mjc2 | hey. yeah I remember |
| 02:16.54 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: ah |
| 02:17.05 | Xinhuan | and yeah ckknight, your LMH4 implementation looks fine to me |
| 02:17.20 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I'm adding focus support now |
| 02:17.34 | kadrahil | mjc2: i has another character now other than my hunter |
| 02:17.37 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure how hard/feasible it would be to monitor party/raid targets as well |
| 02:17.43 | Xinhuan | since they all get GUIDs now |
| 02:17.51 | Xinhuan | whatcha think? |
| 02:17.58 | WobWork | LMH4? |
| 02:18.15 | Thorgard | Mob health. |
| 02:18.22 | WobWork | ahar |
| 02:18.33 | kenlyric | mh3 has trouble with mobs whose state changes in combat, never guesstimates their health, only shows the percent. is that some limitation of the game? |
| 02:18.42 | Xinhuan | yes kenlyric |
| 02:18.54 | WobWork | since we can't figure it out directly |
| 02:19.06 | Xinhuan | if they transform, to another mob with a different hp, etc, we can't figure that out unless we code in specific exceptions |
| 02:19.06 | ckknight | kenlyric: state? |
| 02:19.09 | WobWork | we have to figure it out from percentage drop due to damage taken |
| 02:19.13 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 02:19.25 | Xinhuan | ckknight, for example, some mobs in ferelas, you can "shrink them" with a zapper |
| 02:19.34 | kenlyric | right, a good example |
| 02:19.35 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 02:19.36 | Xinhuan | turning them from elite to non-elite on the shore |
| 02:19.40 | Xinhuan | they even change their names |
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| 02:19.51 | Xinhuan | another example, in ZA, every 25%, the boss changes phase from 1 to 2 |
| 02:19.58 | Xinhuan | in this phase change, the boss goes back to 100% health |
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| 02:20.10 | Xinhuan | and he changes back to phase 1 only when the boss, or his add hits 20% health |
| 02:20.17 | WobWork | Mmm crazy |
| 02:20.26 | Xinhuan | p1 and p2 health is different |
| 02:20.32 | Xinhuan | but the boss name doesn't change |
| 02:20.48 | kenlyric | blizzard needs an "elite" and "wtfelite" tag |
| 02:21.09 | WobWork | jesuschristitsaliongetinthecarelite |
| 02:21.15 | kenlyric | elites I can solo with my hunter, wtfelites crush |
| 02:22.05 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 02:22.57 | Corgan | You can link character spells and quests in chat :o |
| 02:23.09 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 02:23.11 | Xinhuan | that is good |
| 02:23.17 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: no theres events for when units change names or classifications |
| 02:23.31 | Arrowmaster | mobhealth3 just doesnt register that event |
| 02:23.57 | Xinhuan | you can check for the unitname and unitclassification |
| 02:24.00 | Arrowmaster | theres also a bug with mobhealth3 involving mobs you cant attack becoming attackable after youve targeted them |
| 02:24.02 | Xinhuan | on a UNIT_HEALTH change |
| 02:24.16 | Arrowmaster | or you can just register the even and treat it as changing targets |
| 02:24.19 | Arrowmaster | that simple |
| 02:24.34 | Arrowmaster | and much better imho |
| 02:24.41 | aestil | did they document the new combat log really well? |
| 02:24.53 | Xinhuan | aestil, mostly, we document it ourselves LOL |
| 02:25.31 | kenlyric | blizzard only writes the codes. Players figure how it works. |
| 02:25.42 | WobWork | it's true |
| 02:25.46 | kenlyric | gogo glancing blows |
| 02:25.53 | WobWork | it's all about reverse engineering |
| 02:26.02 | aestil | Ellipsis: yes? |
| 02:26.14 | WobWork | cattle prod? |
| 02:26.15 | mjc2 | DaHud is cool. |
| 02:26.15 | Ellipsis | speaking of reverse engineering, anyone figured out what all the bagType returns mean yet? |
| 02:26.27 | WobWork | wait wait |
| 02:26.31 | WobWork | bagType returns? |
| 02:26.44 | Ellipsis | yes, two new API funcs in 2.4 |
| 02:26.50 | Ellipsis | allowing you to check which items go in which types of bags |
| 02:26.54 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:27.04 | WobWork | Yay for that getting put in |
| 02:27.15 | WobWork | now I don't need to depend on PT to figure it out |
| 02:27.18 | Ellipsis | yeah, it kinda snuck in under the radar since everyone was going nuts over the combat log |
| 02:27.21 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 02:27.36 | WobWork | kemayo's suggestion obviously got noticed =) |
| 02:27.39 | Ellipsis | but the bagType returns are all bit flags |
| 02:27.49 | Ellipsis | and undocumented by blizz |
| 02:27.56 | WobWork | I guess we'll have to bruteforce it |
| 02:28.16 | Ellipsis | right, which is what I'm about to do, unless anyone knows of it being done already |
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| 02:29.33 | RaydenUni | jinth'alor is no longer elite? |
| 02:29.35 | WobWork | NEW - bagType = GetItemFamily(itemID | "name" | "itemLink") |
| 02:29.41 | WobWork | doesn't that indicate what the return is? |
| 02:30.08 | WobWork | so we just need to get the return for GetContainerNumFreeSlots |
| 02:30.15 | WobWork | and correspond it to the type of bag |
| 02:30.31 | WobWork | and correlate it to the expected items able to be put into them |
| 02:30.42 | Ellipsis | yes, in practice that's how it would most likely be used |
| 02:30.49 | Ellipsis | but it would be nice to have the types documented, no? |
| 02:30.57 | WobWork | Go for it =) |
| 02:31.07 | WobWork | but the bitflag is a nice idea |
| 02:31.20 | Ellipsis | the bitflag is handy, if only you could actually retrieve it for bags you don't have equipped |
| 02:31.40 | WobWork | You reckon? |
| 02:31.48 | WobWork | why would you need it for unequipped bags? |
| 02:31.57 | Ellipsis | to find out what they are? :P |
| 02:32.16 | WobWork | but why? |
| 02:32.33 | WobWork | You feasibly can't do anything until they're equipped |
| 02:32.46 | WobWork | although, on the other hand you may not be able to equip them due to inventory space |
| 02:33.12 | Ellipsis | you are missing the point |
| 02:33.18 | WobWork | Yes |
| 02:33.19 | Ellipsis | I have to buy one of every bag on ptr and equip them |
| 02:33.24 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:33.33 | WobWork | Sacrifices for the greater good I guess =) |
| 02:33.50 | WobWork | at least you only have to get the smallest bags |
| 02:33.54 | WobWork | which are relatively cheap |
| 02:34.01 | Ellipsis | yeah, I guess most can be gotten from vendors anyway |
| 02:34.03 | Ellipsis | it's still a pain |
| 02:34.06 | WobWork | I recall the vendor in Allerian Stronghold has most of them |
| 02:34.36 | Arrowmaster | we know what bags most the items can go into |
| 02:34.49 | Arrowmaster | you can figure it out that way without equiping bags |
| 02:34.57 | WobWork | ? |
| 02:35.04 | WobWork | generic bags have a bitflag of 0 |
| 02:35.06 | Ellipsis | you'd be surprised, a lot of items can go into several different types |
| 02:35.14 | Arrowmaster | i know so pick items that cant |
| 02:35.16 | WobWork | yeah, mining bags can take the pick and stuff |
| 02:35.22 | Arrowmaster | arrows and shards |
| 02:35.26 | Arrowmaster | thats easy |
| 02:35.29 | Ellipsis | 0,1,2,4 are all easy |
| 02:35.43 | Arrowmaster | now a herb, and a low level enchanting mat |
| 02:35.59 | Arrowmaster | an engineering item like a copper modulator or something |
| 02:36.02 | Ellipsis | 0 is normal bag, 1 is arrow, 2 is bullets, 4 is shards |
| 02:36.23 | Arrowmaster | gem bag might be harder |
| 02:37.01 | Arrowmaster | oh and leatherworking bag |
| 02:37.07 | Arrowmaster | missing any? |
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| 02:37.25 | Ellipsis | enchanting is 64 |
| 02:37.27 | WobWork | enchanting |
| 02:37.29 | WobWork | um |
| 02:37.34 | Arrowmaster | i said enchanting |
| 02:38.08 | Arrowmaster | so 8, 16, 32 |
| 02:38.11 | Arrowmaster | still need those |
| 02:38.17 | WobWork | yeah, soul, herb, enchanting, engineering, gem, mining and leatherworking |
| 02:38.22 | WobWork | that's what wowhead has |
| 02:38.51 | Arrowmaster | normal, arrow, bullet, shard, ?, ?, ?, enchanting |
| 02:39.19 | Arrowmaster | normal, arrow, bullet, shard, ?, ?, ?, enchanting, ?, ? |
| 02:39.43 | Ellipsis | argh |
| 02:39.57 | Ellipsis | you also have to have the items cached for GetItemFamily() returns |
| 02:40.08 | Arrowmaster | not hard |
| 02:40.14 | Arrowmaster | lots of lowbie items are on vendors |
| 02:40.20 | Ellipsis | yeah, just frustrating :P |
| 02:40.31 | WobWork | As long as you're a warlock =) |
| 02:40.42 | WobWork | or head to the AH I guess |
| 02:41.58 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r60889 10Grid/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Grid: merged Julith's HealComm and Healing Bar changes from branches. |
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| 02:42.31 | Kivin | Anyone know if being in max. three LFG queues is a game limitation or just a UI limitation? |
| 02:42.32 | Ellipsis | we're missing a bunch |
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| 02:42.36 | Ellipsis | and yes, I'm a lock :P |
| 02:42.37 | CIA-10 | 03rabbit * r60890 10NRT/NRT.lua: |
| 02:42.37 | CIA-10 | NRT: |
| 02:42.37 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.37 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.39 | Ellipsis | shard family was the first one I got |
| 02:44.53 | Ellipsis | missing 8, 16, 256 still |
| 02:45.06 | RaydenUni | how is tourguide coming along? |
| 02:45.33 | pastamancer | Saroz: Grid is using HealComm. gogogo |
| 02:46.10 | JoshBorke | i think there is a bug in the new InterfaceOptions_AddCategory code |
| 02:47.01 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: what do you have so far? |
| 02:47.19 | Ellipsis | every bag but leatherworking |
| 02:47.25 | Ellipsis | which means Blizz is hiding something |
| 02:47.33 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 02:47.42 | Arrowmaster | post it |
| 02:48.04 | Arrowmaster | whats the missing gap? |
| 02:48.34 | Ellipsis | sec |
| 02:48.38 | Arrowmaster | oh oh check keyring! |
| 02:48.47 | Arrowmaster | check a key |
| 02:49.06 | Ellipsis | good idea |
| 02:49.28 | Ellipsis | that still leaves one hole though |
| 02:49.50 | Arrowmaster | what profession doesnt have a bag? |
| 02:50.03 | Arrowmaster | is the key one? |
| 02:50.16 | lagger | how do i do like -- if srcGUID == COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS, like comparing bits or w/e, i have no idea how it works |
| 02:50.50 | Arrowmaster | bit.band(srcGUID, COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS) == COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS |
| 02:50.51 | ckknight | lagger: bit.band(srcGUID, COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS) > 0 |
| 02:51.12 | ckknight | wait, no, Arrowmaster's right |
| 02:51.16 | Arrowmaster | either |
| 02:51.23 | Arrowmaster | even ~= 0 would work |
| 02:51.31 | Ellipsis | http://pastey.net/82007 |
| 02:51.38 | ckknight | actually it depends on the bits in COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS |
| 02:51.43 | Ellipsis | fill in the blank and win a prize! |
| 02:51.54 | ckknight | if it's like 0x0001100, then a > 0 won't cut it |
| 02:51.59 | ckknight | since it'll just ask as a mask |
| 02:52.09 | ckknight | actually, no, that's what you want |
| 02:52.12 | ckknight | yea, do > 0 |
| 02:52.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:52.17 | lagger | kk thx |
| 02:54.32 | Ellipsis | I guess I just need to find an item that has the 16 bit set and work from there |
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| 02:55.32 | JoshBorke | bah, i find a bug |
| 02:55.36 | JoshBorke | and i don't know how to report it |
| 02:57.05 | danshrugged | can anyone suggest the best command-line mpq extractor? |
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| 02:58.15 | ckknight | woo, and I got focus working with LibMobHealth-3.0 |
| 02:58.18 | Arrowmaster | there is no good command-line mpq extracter |
| 02:58.39 | Antiarc | There used to be |
| 02:58.41 | Arrowmaster | the only mpq extracter i know of that works now on all files is mywarcraftstuido |
| 02:58.42 | Antiarc | Something happen to it? |
| 02:58.52 | Arrowmaster | almost all of them fail on common.mpq |
| 02:58.55 | Arrowmaster | its too large |
| 02:59.00 | danshrugged | yeah |
| 02:59.52 | danshrugged | mws doesn't have a super secret command-line interface then, huh? |
| 03:01.05 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 03:01.35 | Arrowmaster | you might be able to make one from it if its using a dll or something |
| 03:01.38 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 03:02.10 | CIA-10 | 03joshborke * r60891 10InterfaceOptionsOptions/ (. InterfaceOptionsOptions.toc Options.lua): |
| 03:02.10 | CIA-10 | InterfaceOptionsOptions: |
| 03:02.10 | CIA-10 | - adds options to enable move and resize on the new interface options frame |
| 03:02.10 | CIA-10 | - defaults button doesn't quite work |
| 03:02.23 | danshrugged | MpqViewer is looking promising |
| 03:02.49 | JoshBorke | hey, that worked! woot! |
| 03:03.53 | Cryect | mpqviewer uses a dll yeah |
| 03:03.59 | Cryect | I mean mwcs |
| 03:04.03 | Cryect | not mpqviewer :-p |
| 03:04.10 | Bruners | is it possible to controll the volume of PlaySoundFile(SoundFile) ? |
| 03:04.23 | Cryect | wasn't there a second arg of volume? |
| 03:04.36 | Cryect | !api PlaySoundFile |
| 03:04.36 | ThraeBot | Cryect: PlaySoundFile(SoundFile) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySoundFile |
| 03:04.40 | Cryect | guess not :-p |
| 03:05.05 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 03:05.11 | Ellipsis | 16 seems to be for a tailoring bag which doesn't actually exist |
| 03:06.57 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 03:07.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf do you put in a tailoring bag? |
| 03:07.15 | Cryect | cloth! |
| 03:07.16 | pastamancer | cloth! |
| 03:07.17 | Cryect | thread |
| 03:07.18 | Arrowmaster | cloth and thread? |
| 03:07.21 | Keias | other tailors |
| 03:07.21 | Cryect | die |
| 03:07.24 | pastamancer | haha |
| 03:07.39 | Ellipsis | cloth, dye, tailoring recipes |
| 03:07.48 | pastamancer | primals? |
| 03:08.03 | Cryect | the only one I've found remotely useful was the herbing bag |
| 03:08.15 | pastamancer | enchanting bag is awesome |
| 03:08.16 | Ellipsis | primals fit in almost every type of bag |
| 03:08.19 | pastamancer | I stockpile mats |
| 03:08.21 | Ellipsis | depending on the primal, of course |
| 03:08.23 | Cryect | yeah I guess enchanting would be useful |
| 03:09.31 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60892 10LibMobHealth-4.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:09.31 | CIA-10 | LibMobHealth-4.0 - initial commit |
| 03:09.32 | CIA-10 | Works similarly to MobHealth3, with a few differences, (a) more efficient (b) slightly different API (c) checks focus as well as target for data (d) less options for the user (which hopefully won't be a problem) |
| 03:09.32 | CIA-10 | Currently, if run as a non-embed, it will save data in a saved variable. Not sure if it will stay this way, would like comments on it. |
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| 03:11.36 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60893 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.toc Modules/Health.lua): LibDogTag-2.0 - add support for LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 03:12.38 | ckknight_ | feel free to check out LibMobHealth-4.0 and criticize it as you please |
| 03:12.55 | Cryect | psst that LibMobHealth-4.0 sucks |
| 03:13.14 | ckknight_ | your mom sucked pretty good last night |
| 03:13.18 | ckknight_ | mmm... |
| 03:13.20 | Cryect | yeah she is good at that |
| 03:13.26 | ckknight_ | send my regards |
| 03:13.32 | Cryect | will do! |
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| 03:14.11 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60894 10PitBull/ (embeds.xml libs/): PitBull - add LibMobHealth-4.0 to libs, it'll be used by LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 03:14.22 | ckknight_ | alright, now we'll see if people bitch |
| 03:14.27 | Cryect | heh |
| 03:14.36 | Cryect | I'ms ure they will |
| 03:14.40 | Cryect | oh no there is some new library |
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| 03:14.46 | ckknight_ | I added two today |
| 03:14.53 | ckknight_ | LibHealComm-3.0 support in PitBull |
| 03:15.07 | Cryect | ah nice that one should have been there before :-p |
| 03:15.17 | Cryect | though I guess before it wasn't a real library |
| 03:15.21 | ckknight_ | right |
| 03:15.28 | ckknight_ | and EstimatedHeals was removed, replaced with VisualHeal |
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| 03:19.09 | Knaledge | Whats the whole "failed" thing in my cast bar when I'm using my instants as a rogue? |
| 03:19.20 | Knaledge | Even if it's a successful melee swing (Sinister Strike) |
| 03:19.22 | Knaledge | it still shows |
| 03:19.25 | ckknight_ | Knaledge: is your LibDogTag-2.0 updated? |
| 03:19.40 | Knaledge | If that's embedded in PitBull then yes |
| 03:19.54 | Knaledge | otherwise I may have to make a sweep of all the libs on the SVN |
| 03:20.00 | Knaledge | and seen which ones I don't have |
| 03:20.14 | Knaledge | Was that added recently? |
| 03:20.29 | Knaledge | the lib itself, that is |
| 03:20.35 | ckknight_ | no, it wasn't |
| 03:20.41 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 03:20.50 | ckknight_ | DogTag is what all texts of PitBull are based on |
| 03:20.54 | Knaledge | let me see if I have it. If I have it, then it's updated. I pull daily from the SVN |
| 03:21.08 | ckknight_ | type /dog |
| 03:21.43 | Knaledge | yes I have it |
| 03:21.53 | Knaledge | and it's updated as an external |
| 03:22.03 | JoshBorke | new sunfire shit is the shit |
| 03:22.04 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 03:22.07 | Knaledge | I actually have LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 03:22.32 | ckknight | that's good |
| 03:22.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:22.44 | ckknight | instant casts should work now... |
| 03:22.51 | ckknight | I haven't tested on a rogue, though |
| 03:22.53 | ckknight | cause I can't play rogues |
| 03:22.59 | Knaledge | heh |
| 03:23.09 | Knaledge | it's not bad it's just odd looking |
| 03:23.16 | Arrowmaster | ive seen it before with the old icehud |
| 03:23.29 | Knaledge | Not sure what that is |
| 03:23.32 | ckknight | I thought I fixed it, though |
| 03:23.37 | ckknight | not sure why it isn't working |
| 03:23.57 | Knaledge | would "Failed" appear at all for a melee class? |
| 03:24.06 | Knaledge | just to clarify, that is. |
| 03:26.05 | Xinhuan | ckknight, does lmh4 check for existence of lmh3 data and convert it, then delete the lmh3 data? |
| 03:26.11 | Xinhuan | the deleting part could be optional |
| 03:26.48 | ckknight | no, Xinhuan, doesn't check |
| 03:27.07 | Xinhuan | ok, not a big issue |
| 03:27.31 | Ellipsis | who saves their mobhealth data anyway? |
| 03:27.34 | Xinhuan | mainly i use saved data since i want to know the HP of a boss (that we've killed before) before weactually pull it |
| 03:27.34 | Xinhuan | i do |
| 03:27.58 | Knaledge | can't those be stored as just a built in... number? |
| 03:28.00 | Shirik | Anyone here know how to use gentoo's emerge? |
| 03:28.01 | ckknight | well, thing is, I'd have to name the addon MobHealth |
| 03:28.07 | Knaledge | seems kind of dd a boss' health would need to be saved. |
| 03:28.14 | ckknight | Knaledge: yea, but Blizz doesn't provide that |
| 03:28.33 | Knaledge | but it would jut take like 1 person to upload it to you all, right? |
| 03:28.34 | ckknight | UnitHealthMax("unit") returns 100 for non-party members |
| 03:28.38 | Xinhuan | you don't have to, you could just look around for existing mh3 data, and copy it over to mh4 once |
| 03:28.58 | RaydenUni | man nalorak is a long fight |
| 03:29.02 | ckknight | Xinhuan: hrm, I suppose, okay, I'll add it in, you'd have to run MobHealth as well, so you know |
| 03:29.04 | ckknight | once |
| 03:29.13 | Xinhuan | it uses acelibrary right? |
| 03:29.48 | Xinhuan | mh4 can possibly just force load it and then disable it for future, i assume you provided compat layers? |
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| 03:30.02 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, it doesn't |
| 03:30.04 | ckknight | it's an addon |
| 03:30.06 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 03:30.08 | Xinhuan | that's fine |
| 03:30.46 | Xinhuan | matrixMul0>(d_C, d_A, d_B, WA, WB); |
| 03:30.53 | Xinhuan | woo |
| 03:31.05 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:31.12 | Xinhuan | error paste |
| 03:31.27 | RaydenUni | i have 1080 shadow dmg and 45mp5, how much of a problem is that? |
| 03:31.31 | Xinhuan | trying to write something that my nvidia gxcard can run |
| 03:31.44 | Xinhuan | on CUDA |
| 03:33.34 | mykx | RaydenUni: you said you play a warlock I believe? mp5 doesnt matter just life tap |
| 03:34.59 | Cryect | I think he's talking about his shadow priest |
| 03:35.10 | Cryect | But who knows! |
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| 03:36.41 | RaydenUni | i'm a spriest |
| 03:36.42 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60895 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 03:36.42 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 03:36.42 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
| 03:36.56 | RaydenUni | 8505mana buffed |
| 03:37.11 | RaydenUni | i have a few gems i'm going to replace |
| 03:37.18 | RaydenUni | just wondering if i should make them mp5 or spell dmg |
| 03:37.26 | Cryect | I think spell dmg |
| 03:37.30 | Cryect | but not fully sure |
| 03:37.35 | RaydenUni | 4 of them |
| 03:37.44 | NightHawkTheSane | not that I'm an expert, but i'd say spell damage |
| 03:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | then beg to be in a resto shammy group and relegate yourself to chain chugging pots |
| 03:38.33 | Aeyan | Most seem to say pure +damage for every slot, regardless of color |
| 03:38.36 | Stanzilla | always gem spelldmg when you're at the hit cap RaydenUni |
| 03:38.41 | Aeyan | I'm not quite that PvE hardcore though |
| 03:38.47 | Stanzilla | 9/12 spelldmg everywhere |
| 03:38.48 | Ellipsis | mana is for nubs |
| 03:38.49 | Cryect | beg to be in a shadow priest group i mean! |
| 03:38.54 | Aeyan | See? |
| 03:38.56 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 03:38.58 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 03:39.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: who the fuck needs mana when you have spriests? :D |
| 03:39.03 | RaydenUni | so spriest never need mp5? |
| 03:39.09 | Stanzilla | you do |
| 03:39.11 | Stanzilla | but not now |
| 03:39.14 | RaydenUni | i AM the spriest |
| 03:39.15 | Aeyan | Well, it's better than spirit =P |
| 03:39.16 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: i rarely see our spriests gem mp5 |
| 03:39.18 | Stanzilla | you will get some with T6 |
| 03:39.20 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60896 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - check for _G.MobHealth3DB on PLAYER_LOGIN, and if found, gleam data from it. |
| 03:39.25 | RaydenUni | we'll see if i can last nalorak |
| 03:39.26 | Aeyan | I never see spriests gem mp5 |
| 03:39.27 | Aeyan | Me included |
| 03:39.31 | RaydenUni | without using MB or SWD |
| 03:39.32 | Aeyan | But, mp5 is nice |
| 03:39.43 | Stanzilla | RaydenUni: pots on cooldown |
| 03:39.53 | RaydenUni | k |
| 03:40.00 | RaydenUni | yeah i didn't do that the first round until too late |
| 03:40.06 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 03:40.08 | ckknight | Xinhuan: there you go |
| 03:40.09 | RaydenUni | pot at -3000, then pet |
| 03:40.15 | Aeyan | I think I saw a post on shadowpriest.com that sad ~1000 shadow damage is about the point where you can chain MB and SW:D and not really worry about mana |
| 03:40.21 | RaydenUni | at 1080 dmg how much mana will i regen from pet? |
| 03:40.25 | Aeyan | I wouldn't know that, I'm only sitting at 867 and don't raid |
| 03:40.35 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 03:40.36 | RaydenUni | this fight is WAY longer than anything i've done before |
| 03:40.40 | RaydenUni | at like 60% i was running low on mana |
| 03:40.57 | Stanzilla | hehe I had that when I was in tailoring stuff |
| 03:40.59 | Xinhuan | you're planning to update it for 2.4 changes right? |
| 03:43.06 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 03:43.12 | RaydenUni | you are talking about a mod right/ not me |
| 03:43.30 | Stanzilla | yes he is talking about LibMobHealth^^ |
| 03:47.06 | Diao | what fight RaydenUni |
| 03:47.55 | Kivin | If I have EnableMouse and SetMovable as true, script handlers for OnDragStart/OnDragEnd, what am I forgetting to make my bar dragable? |
| 03:47.55 | RaydenUni | nalorakk |
| 03:48.01 | Diao | oh |
| 03:48.04 | RaydenUni | man without salvation i am riding the tanks' on threat |
| 03:48.08 | Kivin | OnDragStop* |
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| 03:49.54 | RaydenUni | we're going to try salv and no wisdom this time |
| 03:50.07 | RaydenUni | i had to stop casting MF so i wouldn't get aggro |
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| 03:51.19 | Arrowmaster | does libmobhealth-4.0 even need updating for 2.4? because mobhealth3 shouldnt since it doesnt even use any combatlog events |
| 03:51.39 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60897 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix function index bug |
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| 03:52.21 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 03:52.23 | RaydenUni | our timer ran out |
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| 03:55.03 | Estil | on my druid I am very enjoying moonfiring people to death |
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| 04:05.51 | Kivin | my frame is ignoring a :ClearAllPoints :SetPoint and restoring itself to the last location i dragged it to. what in the world did i do =/ |
| 04:06.04 | pastamancer | SetUserPlaces? |
| 04:06.07 | pastamancer | err, Placed |
| 04:06.27 | Kivin | i'll try that |
| 04:06.39 | Kivin | i don't recall that ever working on lua frames before, just xml |
| 04:07.08 | pastamancer | no clue if it's made by lua |
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| 04:18.51 | Ellipsis | plot twist, Arrowmaster: 4096 is minipets, leaving 2048 as another gap |
| 04:19.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:19.04 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 04:19.09 | Xinhuan | Kivin, it means you tried to position the frame in code, before the saved settings in layout-cache.txt got applied |
| 04:19.36 | Xinhuan | if you don't want it saved there, you need to :SetUserPlaced(false) after a :StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 04:19.58 | Arcaia | Alright fellow WoWAce Regulars ... I'm putting together an Addon Package for my guild, I'm looking at 3 different sets [DPS, Heals, Tanking] need to know what addons people suggest [Apart from Omen, BigWigs, oRA2] |
| 04:20.31 | theoddone33 | grid |
| 04:20.37 | Xinhuan | Arcaia, i suggest you "recommend" addons to your guild members, and they can pick-and-choose what they need |
| 04:20.50 | Arcaia | well certain things I want to become STANDARD |
| 04:21.12 | Xinhuan | Omen and Bigwigs should be standard, and possibly a damage meter |
| 04:21.17 | Xinhuan | the rest doesn't really need to be standard |
| 04:21.26 | Xinhuan | or at least, i see no reason for them to be standard |
| 04:22.27 | theoddone33 | is there a mod that kicks people out of the guild if they roll on gear that's bad for their spec? I'd force that on everyone |
| 04:23.00 | Kivin | =/ |
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| 04:23.52 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: are you on ptr right now? |
| 04:24.06 | Xinhuan | theoddone33, such a mod is very subjective |
| 04:24.27 | theoddone33 | yup |
| 04:24.39 | Xinhuan | a spriest could roll on healing gear to make a healing set, that doesn't make him a ninja or roling on gear bad for their spec |
| 04:25.10 | Estil | I always roll on gears for my other spec sets if classes that need it don't want it |
| 04:25.14 | Estil | as a priest |
| 04:25.15 | theoddone33 | only if there are no healers that can put it to better use |
| 04:25.31 | theoddone33 | I'm talking more like spriest rolls on low-dmg high crit piece |
| 04:25.37 | theoddone33 | just because they don't know how to gear for their class |
| 04:25.43 | Estil | well then that's just bad spriest |
| 04:25.48 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 04:25.49 | Estil | but if other dps cloth didn't want it |
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| 04:25.54 | Estil | I don't see why it's bad |
| 04:25.54 | theoddone33 | that's why the mod has to kick him |
| 04:26.02 | Xinhuan | well at the end of the day, such a mod is too subjective |
| 04:26.08 | Xinhuan | there are too many special cases |
| 04:26.14 | Xinhuan | or exceptions |
| 04:26.21 | Xinhuan | better off just using common sense |
| 04:26.42 | Kivin | There's a hunter running around on my server with a blinkstrike + crystaline kopesh =/ |
| 04:26.46 | theoddone33 | well the fix is to have class officers that have a clue |
| 04:26.47 | Kivin | and his most recent addition is a gorehowl |
| 04:26.50 | Estil | I've seen hunters with Sun Eater |
| 04:26.58 | Xinhuan | i have a sun eater |
| 04:27.01 | Xinhuan | drops every run |
| 04:27.02 | Xinhuan | LOL |
| 04:27.05 | Xinhuan | (i'm a mage) |
| 04:27.10 | Estil | our tank already had a sun eater when I did heroic mech |
| 04:27.13 | Kivin | it's one thing to HAVE one, it's another to show up at kara with blinkstrike at your waist |
| 04:27.14 | Estil | so the hunter took it |
| 04:27.32 | Estil | on my rogue alt, my goal is to wield sun eater and king's defender |
| 04:27.35 | Kivin | hunter outrolled his guild lead, a rogue, on the blinkstrike, and equipped it right on the spot in front of him |
| 04:27.36 | Estil | (our tanks are already geared out) |
| 04:28.11 | Estil | well |
| 04:28.16 | Estil | Blinkstrike is quite shitty whoever uses it |
| 04:28.33 | Estil | 0 stats other than an effect that can be replicated by other class abilities or talents |
| 04:28.35 | Estil | >>; |
| 04:28.41 | Lukian | oh wow, 2.4 combat log changes break so many addons |
| 04:28.47 | Kivin | Of course they do |
| 04:28.54 | Xinhuan | theoddone33: gonna link you a post |
| 04:29.16 | Estil | and well |
| 04:29.23 | Estil | you said hunter rolled it and won |
| 04:29.24 | Xinhuan | theoddone33: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11207.0 |
| 04:29.27 | Estil | key word being, hunter |
| 04:29.34 | Estil | did you expect any sort of intelligence from a hunter |
| 04:29.40 | Lukian | so crazy question, any working combatlog based addons yet? XD |
| 04:29.45 | Xinhuan | the idea is exactly the same - except for the kicking part |
| 04:31.33 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 04:31.55 | theoddone33 | yup |
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| 04:33.24 | RaydenUni | gosh darnit |
| 04:33.28 | RaydenUni | machine all locked during the fight |
| 04:33.40 | kebinusan | is there a working parserlib for ptr yet? |
| 04:34.03 | Funkeh` | you shouldn't need one |
| 04:34.11 | Lukian | I thought the point was to not need a parserlib :p |
| 04:34.20 | kebinusan | just hearing that the new combat log breaks most logs |
| 04:34.22 | kebinusan | err mods |
| 04:34.23 | Lukian | although it would be a good immediate step to make all addons using it |
| 04:34.29 | Lukian | work |
| 04:34.43 | kebinusan | I havent been able to get copied yet, was curious |
| 04:35.01 | Funkeh` | or just let them die? allows others with new mods and more time to take their place |
| 04:35.22 | Funkeh` | addons will always be replaced and recycled |
| 04:39.19 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 04:39.21 | RaydenUni | finally killed hi |
| 04:39.22 | RaydenUni | him |
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| 04:42.54 | Xinhuan | i would rather let old mods die |
| 04:42.59 | Xinhuan | so that newer more efficient ones can be made |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r60898 10Grid/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:46.34 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 04:46.35 | CIA-10 | * Updated toc for 2.4 |
| 04:46.35 | CIA-10 | * Removed Babble-Spell-2.0. Using BS-3.0 since HealComm needs it. |
| 04:46.35 | CIA-10 | * GridStatus: RegisterStatus in the module prototype takes an additional arg to set the order of the menu item. |
| 04:46.36 | CIA-10 | * GridStatusAuras: cleaned up menu |
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| 04:53.38 | Gnarfoz | ~seen samala |
| 04:53.46 | purl | Gnarfoz: i haven't seen 'samala' |
| 04:54.00 | Gnarfoz | durr |
| 04:54.36 | Gnarfoz | someone should probably enlighten him/her to the fact that Rogues can not learn the "fist weapon" skill, because they don't have to - it falls under 'unarmed' -.- |
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| 05:00.23 | WobWork | ... the fist skill =P |
| 05:00.37 | Fisker- | hai |
| 05:02.32 | kadrahil | just 4 manned the dragon boss in ST heh |
| 05:02.41 | kadrahil | 65 priest (me), 49 mage, 52 mage, 53 rogue |
| 05:02.42 | kadrahil | :S |
| 05:02.49 | kadrahil | shade of eranikus dude |
| 05:05.13 | RaydenUni | overheal gives threat? |
| 05:05.17 | Antiarc | no |
| 05:05.27 | RaydenUni | my guild leader says it does... |
| 05:05.31 | Antiarc | He's wrong |
| 05:05.39 | aestil | he's epic wrong. |
| 05:05.43 | RaydenUni | well i dont feel like telling him right now :P |
| 05:05.44 | aestil | now is the time to LOL at him |
| 05:06.01 | RaydenUni | yeah right in the middle of my 2nd raid with them |
| 05:06.01 | aestil | also, antiarc, how badly will 2.4 mess up omen/threat? |
| 05:06.11 | Antiarc | I'm writing Threat-2.0 right now. :P |
| 05:06.25 | aestil | i heard you're really tall. how tall? |
| 05:06.29 | Antiarc | 6'10" |
| 05:06.35 | dylanm | Whoa. |
| 05:06.48 | Fisker- | guild clashes are fun |
| 05:06.55 | aestil | thats really tall. |
| 05:07.01 | Ellipsis | ^ |
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| 05:07.13 | Antiarc | Ask Ellipsis how short she is! |
| 05:07.20 | aestil | also, how scary is ellipsis irl? |
| 05:07.23 | Ellipsis | tell Antiarc to go die in a fire! >:( |
| 05:07.29 | aestil | where you constantly in fear for your life? |
| 05:07.39 | Antiarc | Ellipsis is cute and rather likable! |
| 05:07.43 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 05:07.44 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60899 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 05:07.45 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 05:07.45 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
| 05:07.46 | Fisker- | some dude in our guild wrote 2 contradicting problems, and i wanted to make sure that i fully understood what he meant so i asked him what he meant by that |
| 05:07.48 | Ellipsis | ha |
| 05:07.55 | aestil | where are pictures of this meeting btw? i'm curious to see if the youtube of ckk is really ckk. |
| 05:07.58 | Ellipsis | I can only imagine what you'd say if I wasn't here right now |
| 05:08.02 | Ellipsis | aestil: it is |
| 05:08.07 | Fisker- | Then some officer tells me that it's unacceptable behaviour and i'll be demoted if it continues |
| 05:08.22 | aestil | thats where your love for ckk sprang forth ..., right? |
| 05:08.25 | Antiarc | I don't have pictures, unfortunately |
| 05:08.27 | Ellipsis | absolutely |
| 05:08.32 | Antiarc | Actually |
| 05:08.35 | Ellipsis | it was the southern accent that got me, tbh |
| 05:08.35 | Antiarc | I have one of me and MentalPower |
| 05:08.39 | Fisker- | Apparently he thinks i'm doing it just to "own" him |
| 05:08.47 | aestil | the southern accent is fake though? |
| 05:08.51 | Ellipsis | yes, yes it is :P |
| 05:08.57 | Ellipsis | also, I hate southern accents |
| 05:09.01 | MentalPower | aestil: it is :) |
| 05:09.01 | Ellipsis | just for the record |
| 05:09.02 | aestil | and french ones. |
| 05:09.03 | RaydenUni | Ellipsis how tall are you? |
| 05:09.07 | Ellipsis | 5' |
| 05:09.11 | Antiarc | http://www.focalmatter.com/photos/antiarc/antiarc_-_05.jpg |
| 05:09.17 | MentalPower | aestil: the youtube ckk is indeed ckk |
| 05:09.20 | Antiarc | I'm on the left, MentalPower on the right |
| 05:09.24 | Ellipsis | were you guys taking pictures? |
| 05:09.29 | aestil | wow, we got auctioneer in the house. |
| 05:09.29 | Fisker- | WANT |
| 05:09.32 | Ellipsis | I think I'm glad I didn't meet everyone then XD |
| 05:09.33 | MentalPower | I forgot my camera that day |
| 05:09.50 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: I have a friend who gave MentalPower and myself the tour of San Fran on Saturday |
| 05:09.53 | Fisker- | HAHA FOILED Antiarc ! |
| 05:09.58 | aestil | dude, antiarc, where did you play your college ball? jesus. |
| 05:10.03 | Fisker- | i discovered your clever masking technique with the numbers and all that |
| 05:10.05 | Antiarc | Hehe, I didn't :P |
| 05:10.25 | aestil | i don't think you would even have had to be that good with that frame and height. |
| 05:10.52 | aestil | mentalpower is smiling in that picture due to his fear you might take his life. |
| 05:10.59 | MentalPower | lol |
| 05:10.59 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 05:11.18 | Fisker- | http://www.focalmatter.com/photos/antiarc/antiarc_-_16.jpg <-brokeback mountain btw? |
| 05:11.25 | Antiarc | Totally. |
| 05:11.30 | Antiarc | We had a makeout session after that |
| 05:11.53 | aestil | youtube ckk is > than all other ckk's |
| 05:11.57 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 05:12.11 | Arrowmaster | wheres the boat to sunwell? |
| 05:12.17 | Fisker- | there is none |
| 05:12.23 | Ellipsis | not gonna lie, Antiarc is pretty scary irl |
| 05:12.29 | Antiarc | I'm not scary :( |
| 05:12.37 | Ellipsis | you're like twice my height |
| 05:12.38 | Antiarc | I am cuddly and huggable, like a big teddy bear |
| 05:12.39 | Ellipsis | that's scary |
| 05:12.43 | aestil | antiarc, you aren't even a thin 6'10" which would help. |
| 05:12.49 | Antiarc | Hehe, no |
| 05:12.50 | aestil | you're a BIG 6'10" |
| 05:12.55 | Antiarc | I'm a little heavier than I'd like right now :P |
| 05:13.00 | Antiarc | I wrestled in high school though |
| 05:13.03 | Antiarc | And was tall and skinny then |
| 05:13.09 | aestil | as am I, and everyone else i'm friends with. |
| 05:13.19 | aestil | a few people I work with are like 85 - 90 lbs. |
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| 05:13.31 | aestil | girls that can still eat whatever the hell they want, and not put any weight on. |
| 05:14.06 | aestil | you'll never get coffee from me now ... you missed your chanc.e |
| 05:14.18 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 05:14.26 | Ellipsis | I can come visit you! |
| 05:14.40 | aestil | when you were 50 miles away from me, you didn't come visit me. |
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| 05:14.45 | Ellipsis | yeah but... |
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| 05:14.50 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 05:14.56 | aestil | although, if you send me like, a new computer, i'll mail you 10 lbs of coffee. |
| 05:15.05 | Ellipsis | maybe I'll do that when I have an address for you to mail it to |
| 05:15.06 | Guillotine | Is it possible to use AceComm to throttle normal whispers? |
| 05:15.11 | Guillotine | as well as AddOn whispers? |
| 05:15.22 | Antiarc | If it makes you guys feel any better, my wife is 5'2" |
| 05:15.24 | Antiarc | So yeah. |
| 05:15.33 | Ellipsis | that just makes me feel bad for her |
| 05:15.38 | Antiarc | I'm a solid 22" taller than her |
| 05:15.38 | Guillotine | lol |
| 05:15.45 | aestil | jesus. |
| 05:15.58 | aestil | the logistics must be, i don't even know. |
| 05:16.01 | aestil | wow. |
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| 05:16.15 | Ellipsis | hey now, sexing tall guys can be fun |
| 05:16.15 | Antiarc | http://wedding.tachyonsix.com/Wedding5474-5799%20202.jpg |
| 05:16.17 | aestil | trigonometry must be involved. |
| 05:16.31 | Antiarc | I'm just going to say we make it work, and leave it at that ;) |
| 05:16.38 | dylanm | That's a nice shot, Ant. |
| 05:16.54 | Antiarc | http://wedding.tachyonsix.com/Wedding5474-5799%20167.jpg |
| 05:16.59 | Antiarc | Pro wedding photography ftw. |
| 05:17.05 | Antiarc | The thing is |
| 05:17.08 | Antiarc | I was standing down a step there |
| 05:17.13 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 05:17.15 | Antiarc | They used the train to make her seem taller |
| 05:17.16 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 05:17.39 | Ellipsis | that's kinda scary |
| 05:17.42 | dylanm | Train could hide stilts. |
| 05:18.03 | aestil | my wife says cute, but jesus. i'm still amazed by that. |
| 05:18.09 | aestil | great wedding pictures. |
| 05:18.29 | WobWork | Antiarc |
| 05:18.40 | WobWork | You are over a foot taller than me. |
| 05:18.47 | Antiarc | I'm over a foot taller than a lot of people |
| 05:18.52 | Antiarc | I just like to think that people look up to me |
| 05:18.53 | Fisker- | that's because your wife thinks you have something going with them aestil :O |
| 05:18.55 | aestil | he's only half a foot taller than me. |
| 05:18.56 | WobWork | Then again, most of my friends are 6'5+ |
| 05:19.10 | WobWork | I had a permanent crik in the neck at school |
| 05:19.12 | aestil | Fisker-: i'm confused. |
| 05:19.17 | WobWork | And walked on a lot of retaining walls |
| 05:19.21 | WobWork | to keep up conversation |
| 05:19.23 | Antiarc | I always thought I'd marry a tall girl, but I fell in love with a short one, so what's a guy to do? |
| 05:19.28 | Ellipsis | aww, WobWork knows what it's like! |
| 05:19.35 | WobWork | Antiarc: Get cut off at the knees? |
| 05:19.35 | aestil | marry the one you love. |
| 05:19.44 | aestil | its a nice problem to have actually Antiarc :) |
| 05:19.57 | Fisker- | kneecutting sounds like fun |
| 05:20.16 | Ellipsis | the worst problem with big height differences like that is walking together |
| 05:20.23 | dylanm | I hope you vowed to solve all disputes with one on one basketball. |
| 05:20.39 | WobWork | Ellipsis: clearly the answer is "stilts" |
| 05:20.42 | Antiarc | She used to bowl professionally, actually |
| 05:20.43 | aestil | i would have thought hand holding ... |
| 05:20.48 | Antiarc | She has a grip like you wouldn't believe |
| 05:20.52 | Fisker- | bamboo boogie boots? |
| 05:20.54 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 05:21.02 | aestil | Antiarc: you said you were gonna 'leave it at that' |
| 05:21.11 | Antiarc | I didn't mean it like that :P |
| 05:21.15 | Antiarc | Just that she can hold her own! |
| 05:21.16 | aestil | is jumber going to be good? |
| 05:21.46 | WobWork | ...sure |
| 05:22.32 | aestil | Antiarc: you guys are alliance? right? |
| 05:22.52 | Antiarc | aestil: yeah |
| 05:23.05 | aestil | ima transfer to you guys. |
| 05:23.09 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 05:23.10 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 05:23.12 | aestil | i'm done with raiding for a while. |
| 05:23.28 | Ellipsis | aestil: are you just *trying* to make me transfer? |
| 05:23.36 | aestil | are they PvE? |
| 05:23.41 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 05:23.47 | aestil | oh. didn't know. |
| 05:24.10 | aestil | is the bot up for the armory? |
| 05:24.48 | Ellipsis | should be |
| 05:24.54 | aestil | how do i do it? |
| 05:25.15 | aestil | -c darkspear alliance aestil |
| 05:25.20 | aestil | bah. |
| 05:25.46 | dylanm | !c nazjatar faction |
| 05:25.57 | Xinhuan | omg, its the Omen guy! |
| 05:26.00 | dylanm | Booo armory. |
| 05:26.00 | Xinhuan | :> |
| 05:26.07 | aestil | !c darkspear alliance aestil |
| 05:26.24 | aestil | !c us darkspear alliance aestil |
| 05:26.24 | ThraeBot | aestil: aestil is not the character you are looking for! |
| 05:26.29 | aestil | :( |
| 05:26.37 | dylanm | !c us nazjatar faction |
| 05:26.39 | ThraeBot | dylanm: Faction, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (34/27/0). 10801 HP; 10296 Mana; 138 mana regen; 47 mp5; 15 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 823 +spell dmg; 1288 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 474 resilience;[[ TBR: 1634 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqxqrr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32fc29 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 00:35:40 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:26.41 | Ellipsis | !c us darkspear aestil |
| 05:26.44 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8041 HP; 8910 Mana; 188 mana regen; 70 mp5; 84 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 954 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1008); 164 shadow dmg (1118); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 830 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 00:35:45 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:26.50 | Ellipsis | ~fail aestil |
| 05:26.51 | purl | aestil: Fail. |
| 05:26.54 | aestil | yes. |
| 05:27.06 | exor674 | !c us bronzebeard Crindappy |
| 05:27.09 | ThraeBot | exor674: Crindappy, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/20/0). 8980 HP; 8350 Mana; 103 mana regen; 179 spell crit; 210 spell hit; 710 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (943); 233 shadow dmg (943); 4.47% dodge; 25 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1338 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29r6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/353tnc ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 00:36:09 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:27.11 | aestil | i'm crappy gears. |
| 05:27.20 | aestil | Antiarc: you guys are done right? |
| 05:28.06 | Antiarc | done? |
| 05:28.15 | aestil | killed ilidian. |
| 05:28.27 | Antiarc | Unfortunately, no. We had a streak of suck and are on Council. |
| 05:28.27 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:28.30 | WobWork | Game over now |
| 05:28.33 | WobWork | you can move on |
| 05:29.35 | Thorgard | !c us hydraxis nogger |
| 05:29.38 | ThraeBot | Thorgard: Nogger, Level 70 Orc Warrior (11/0/50). 16514 HP; 16692 Armour; 658 AP; 133.200 Melee DPS; 6.75% melee crit; 39 melee hit; 14 +spell dmg/heal; 326 defense; 23.56% dodge; 26.68% block; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 841 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c4q3s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2moum7 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 00:38:38 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:30.24 | Xinhuan | wtb t6 mage gloves - hasn't dropped 8 weeks in a row |
| 05:30.31 | Xinhuan | GG random number generator |
| 05:30.52 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60900 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot - use option caching |
| 05:31.09 | Xinhuan | when they say "25 man bosses will drop an additional tier token", i hope they better mean that it drops 1 of each token, and not just randomly generate 3xsame token |
| 05:31.36 | WobWork | Nah, it'll be 3 shaman tokens each time |
| 05:31.47 | Xinhuan | screw that shit WobWork |
| 05:32.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: 3x hero, forever. :P |
| 05:32.51 | Xinhuan | we've killed archimonde for some 3-4 months, about 60% of those kills, he drops double Vanquisher |
| 05:32.53 | Xinhuan | its hilarious |
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| 05:33.11 | Xinhuan | then he drops that melee dps sword |
| 05:33.13 | Xinhuan | every kill |
| 05:33.15 | Xinhuan | cata edge |
| 05:33.20 | Xinhuan | and 0 caster ones |
| 05:33.29 | RaydenUni | well killed nalorakk and akil'zon |
| 05:33.29 | RaydenUni | fun |
| 05:34.15 | Bruners | always drops cata edge for us aswell |
| 05:35.22 | RaydenUni | Antiarc how tall are y ou? |
| 05:35.24 | Arrowmaster | lol somebody has an enslaved pit overlord on sunwell island |
| 05:35.48 | Antiarc | 6'10" |
| 05:35.54 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r60901 10Grid/ (GridLayoutLayouts.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): Grid: Added layouts: By Group 15 w/Pets, By Group 5, By Group 5 w/Pets |
| 05:35.55 | WobWork | crazy no? |
| 05:36.22 | WobWork | How tall is MentalPower? |
| 05:36.28 | RaydenUni | all the men on one side of my family are all tall |
| 05:36.33 | exor674 | w/ Pets??? :D |
| 05:36.34 | RaydenUni | not sure they are that tall though |
| 05:36.45 | RaydenUni | nice wedding pictures though |
| 05:36.49 | RaydenUni | yours i mean |
| 05:37.08 | MentalPower | WobWork: 6' |
| 05:37.24 | pastamancer | exor674: didn't you get the memo? Grid works with pets now. |
| 05:37.51 | WobWork | 2m tall =\ |
| 05:37.59 | WobWork | over |
| 05:38.02 | WobWork | is scary |
| 05:40.48 | WobWork | oh look |
| 05:40.48 | WobWork | http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/6611269.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 05:40.54 | WobWork | blackrock -isn't- on that list |
| 05:42.10 | Keias | What about blackrock? |
| 05:42.21 | WobWork | It's -not- down =P |
| 05:42.30 | WobWork | I was just surprised =P |
| 05:42.33 | Arrowmaster | omg unit links when you click them bring up a tooltip with a moving healthbar! |
| 05:42.36 | Keias | Don't jinx it |
| 05:42.45 | Keias | it was down for like 3+ hours last night |
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| 05:43.28 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: that's very cool |
| 05:43.39 | WobWork | updating boss kill details if you're not in the raid =) |
| 05:43.50 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:43.54 | Arrowmaster | no clue if that works |
| 05:43.59 | CIA-10 | 03sayclub * r60902 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 05:43.59 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 05:43.59 | CIA-10 | - koKR Update |
| 05:44.10 | Arrowmaster | would be sweet if it did |
| 05:44.29 | Arrowmaster | anybody on us pve ptr? |
| 05:44.36 | Ellipsis | yup? |
| 05:44.37 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i love you :D |
| 05:44.54 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: name? |
| 05:45.03 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 05:45.07 | Ellipsis | <-- |
| 05:45.10 | Ellipsis | I got disconnected, sec |
| 05:45.15 | Arrowmaster | alliance? |
| 05:45.19 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 05:45.20 | Arrowmaster | or horde? |
| 05:45.23 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 05:45.24 | Xinhuan | lol WobWork ;d |
| 05:45.26 | Arrowmaster | im horde |
| 05:45.32 | Ellipsis | nub~ |
| 05:45.35 | Arrowmaster | any horde on us pve ptr? |
| 05:45.46 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: downloaded routes, switched to herb and ... wow it's simple and stupid how fast this goes. |
| 05:46.07 | Xinhuan | tried node clustering yet? |
| 05:46.11 | Xinhuan | and the taboo regions stuff |
| 05:46.32 | Orionshock | not the taboo stuff, witch i'll use as i lvl |
| 05:46.35 | Xinhuan | its designed to be very very simple |
| 05:46.37 | Orionshock | cordon off stuff impassable |
| 05:46.46 | Xinhuan | to use |
| 05:46.51 | Xinhuan | with a GUI etc |
| 05:47.32 | Xinhuan | http://grum.nl/WoWScrnShot_020908_125251.jpg |
| 05:47.37 | Xinhuan | i think that's a bit of an extreme example |
| 05:47.41 | Xinhuan | of how you can use taboo regions |
| 05:48.39 | Arrowmaster | we need to find out if theres a new unitid for the itemreftooltip |
| 05:48.44 | Bruners | what is taboo ? |
| 05:49.02 | Xinhuan | taboo is an english verb which means "prohibited" or "not allowed" |
| 05:49.27 | WobWork | well, it's more 'disapproved of' |
| 05:49.47 | Xinhuan | the word is most often used in a religious or social context |
| 05:49.51 | Bruners | and that combined with routes is ? |
| 05:50.03 | Xinhuan | but its also used in a lot of mathematics algorithms |
| 05:50.09 | Xinhuan | "Tabu Search" |
| 05:50.15 | Xinhuan | is a technique |
| 05:51.06 | WobWork | Means you can mark areas to not be processed |
| 05:51.29 | WobWork | by making them 'taboo' you're asking for that area to not be considered in the calculations |
| 05:51.35 | Bruners | aha |
| 05:51.36 | Xinhuan | its a bit more complicated than that, since i have to check whether every node-pair's edge will intersect any region |
| 05:51.45 | Xinhuan | and avoid using those edges if possible |
| 05:51.52 | CIA-10 | 03damjau * r60903 10Whats/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:51.52 | CIA-10 | Whats : 0.4 |
| 05:51.52 | CIA-10 | - add item memo function |
| 05:51.52 | CIA-10 | - change item data format |
| 05:51.52 | CIA-10 | - update koKR locals (field mob name) |
| 05:52.42 | Bruners | great 20 of 35 afk in av |
| 05:52.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:53.06 | Bruners | afkv |
| 05:53.35 | Xinhuan | WobWork, blackrock just died :D |
| 05:54.01 | Xinhuan | anyhow, i'm not logged on anyway, got a school project to rush |
| 05:54.06 | Xinhuan | due in 37 minutes |
| 05:54.14 | WobWork | gluck |
| 05:56.08 | Keias | Wow Wob |
| 05:56.10 | Keias | I hate you :9 |
| 05:56.24 | Keias | You cursed Blackrock :( |
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| 05:57.07 | WobWork | It was a self fufilling prophecy |
| 05:57.15 | WobWork | If any server will go down |
| 05:57.24 | WobWork | Blackrock has a high chance of it being the one |
| 05:57.30 | Keias | AD next! |
| 05:57.46 | WobWork | probably from all the BR gnomes |
| 05:58.01 | WobWork | anyway |
| 05:58.02 | WobWork | hometime |
| 05:58.47 | Xinhuan | i've always wondered |
| 05:58.56 | Xinhuan | how much do people really roleplay, and how often, on a RP server |
| 06:00.42 | Bruners | all the time i guess? |
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| 06:00.54 | Arrowmaster | so im guessing you cant open a unit link unless that person is visable, i cant click on the ones for people that die because im guessing they released, but there was one i could and the tooltip said resurectable |
| 06:01.05 | kd3 | anyone put the instance maps together for the sunwell instances yet? |
| 06:02.08 | ckknight | lol, I could if I felt like it |
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| 06:05.22 | CIA-10 | 03parnic * r60904 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: |
| 06:05.22 | CIA-10 | IceHUD: |
| 06:05.22 | CIA-10 | - made TargetInfo module dogtag-aware (it's sentient!) |
| 06:05.27 | Kivin | !c us Barajanda Cenarion Circle |
| 06:05.27 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Circle is not the character you are looking for! |
| 06:05.39 | Kivin | !c us Cenarion Circle Barajanda |
| 06:05.41 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Barajanda, Level 70 Troll Rogue (8/12/41). 7724 HP; 1409 AP; 258.600 Melee DPS; 22.49% melee crit; 54 melee hit; 29.88% dodge; 100 resilience;[[ TBR: 1788 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywl6d2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/392okh ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:14:42 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:06.07 | Antiarc | Heh, you're on CC, Kivin? |
| 06:06.36 | Kivin | that i am |
| 06:06.55 | Kivin | know someone there? |
| 06:07.05 | Ellipsis | apparently everyone |
| 06:10.43 | Antiarc | Kivin: I play there :P |
| 06:10.47 | Antiarc | Alliance though |
| 06:10.55 | Kivin | I'm both alliance and horde |
| 06:11.17 | Arrowmaster | i should roll an alt on CC |
| 06:11.23 | Kivin | what guild are you affiliated with? |
| 06:11.34 | Antiarc | Southsea Buccaneers. Guild leader, actually. |
| 06:11.40 | Kivin | Oh, groovy |
| 06:11.48 | Antiarc | !c Cenarion Circle Adrine |
| 06:11.57 | Antiarc | !c us Cenarion Circle Adrine |
| 06:12.06 | ThraeBot | Antiarc: Adrine, Level 70 Human Rogue (19/42/0). 9124 HP; 3794 Armour; 1848 AP; 442.200 Melee DPS; 23.42% melee crit; 286 melee hit; 28.96% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1761 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv6o6q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qgebp ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:21:07 2008 EST ]] |
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| 06:12.58 | Kivin | !c us cenarion circle siddin |
| 06:13.01 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Siddin, Level 64 Night Elf Rogue (17/38/0). 5055 HP; 829 AP; 195.300 Melee DPS; 21.03% melee crit; 100 melee hit; 20.75% dodge; 3 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1171 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ewxrx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a8nvw ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:22:02 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:13.08 | Kivin | he was my main for a few years prior to the expanshion |
| 06:13.10 | Kivin | expansion* |
| 06:15.07 | Kivin | Omg... I'm pretty sure I'm the only DPSer in my heroic. That rogue, Barajanda, and the warlock, aren't doing squat. |
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| 06:16.12 | rubik | at least they're dps classes.. did a heroic mech and botanica back-to-back the other day with some guildies.. two protection tanks, healing priest, mage and i (feral druid) doing dps |
| 06:16.28 | Kivin | probably out dpsed these clowns |
| 06:16.32 | rubik | worked out amazingly well.. stinking mage edged me out for dps though |
| 06:16.48 | rubik | (as expected) |
| 06:17.22 | Kivin | i'm registering 628 DPS, they're each barely reaching 300 |
| 06:17.38 | rubik | 300 is pretty sad for any lock.. or rogue, yeah |
| 06:17.44 | Kivin | for a heroic, yeah |
| 06:17.49 | Kivin | that's like lv.68-69 non-heroic dps |
| 06:17.59 | Ellipsis | needs way less fail |
| 06:18.15 | Xinhuan | 300? |
| 06:18.23 | Xinhuan | thats not even kara quality dps |
| 06:18.25 | Kivin | warlock has actually been climbing up a bit |
| 06:18.30 | Kivin | she's up to 378 :P |
| 06:18.38 | Ellipsis | she should be doing twice that |
| 06:18.53 | Xinhuan | i could do 600 dps pre-tbc ;p |
| 06:19.16 | CIA-10 | 03arrowmaster * r60905 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua: LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: typos ftl |
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| 06:20.01 | Xinhuan | afk a few hours |
| 06:20.19 | Stanzilla | < 900-1100 dps..depens on the encounter |
| 06:20.23 | Stanzilla | *d |
| 06:20.35 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan afk? |
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| 06:21.05 | Stanzilla | he's probably creating backups of his brain |
| 06:21.13 | Stanzilla | and defragging his drive |
| 06:21.31 | Stanzilla | I heard that's what robots do when they go afk :P |
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| 06:22.31 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60906 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - add choiceOrder ability |
| 06:24.48 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60907 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: deDE update |
| 06:24.50 | rubik | is level 47 too low to switch this paladin alt to prot spec? i've got him full retribution now but this "dps" and survivability just isn't cutting it. |
| 06:25.02 | Kivin | prot is the best way to level up from 35+ |
| 06:25.33 | rubik | oh.. that low, eh? ok, cool.. i'll read up on what talents to get to start out |
| 06:26.00 | Kivin | give me a few and i can give you all that info |
| 06:26.02 | Kivin | boss fight atm |
| 06:26.09 | rubik | np |
| 06:27.12 | Bruners | when s4 hits will rating req on s3 shoulders be removed? |
| 06:27.43 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 06:28.22 | Kivin | rubik: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZiGzf0hzxGo |
| 06:29.05 | Aeyan | Bleh |
| 06:29.12 | rubik | sweet.. thanks much.. checking it out now |
| 06:29.13 | Kivin | judge+seal light, profit |
| 06:30.33 | rubik | next 5 points or so, keep plugging away at prot tree? |
| 06:30.39 | Kivin | if you want to do instances, yeah |
| 06:30.44 | Kivin | work on getting the 41 |
| 06:30.58 | rubik | honestly just want to get to 70 ASAP.. so prolly going to quest like mad and skip instances |
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| 06:31.15 | Kivin | then i'd probably work on getting the parry talents |
| 06:31.17 | Kivin | in retribution |
| 06:31.34 | Kivin | i don't remember exactly what i did |
| 06:31.51 | Arrowmaster | for soloing? |
| 06:31.54 | Kivin | yeah |
| 06:31.58 | Arrowmaster | 10 in holy is probably better |
| 06:32.18 | Arrowmaster | especially for outlands |
| 06:32.48 | rubik | strength & intellect buffing talents up top? |
| 06:33.07 | Bruners | strength only |
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| 06:33.22 | Arrowmaster | you want spiritual focus |
| 06:33.30 | rubik | oh and the spell interruption stuff |
| 06:33.31 | rubik | yeah |
| 06:33.32 | Kivin | the improved righteousness might be worth grabbing |
| 06:33.43 | Kivin | don't need spell interruption protection |
| 06:33.47 | Kivin | all your spells are instant |
| 06:34.05 | Arrowmaster | if your doing the aoe farming, it can help a lot ive herd |
| 06:34.12 | Arrowmaster | keep you from dying |
| 06:34.21 | Kivin | that's what improved BoP is for |
| 06:34.26 | Kivin | 3 min cooldown + 5 min divine shield |
| 06:35.39 | Arrowmaster | my pally is still only 40 with gear so shitty i probably shouldnt try doing anything till i get some stuff from AH or ran through some instances |
| 06:35.44 | Kivin | the tank is almost out dpsing this fracking rogue |
| 06:36.14 | Corgan | Arrowmaster, sounds like my priest |
| 06:36.47 | Arrowmaster | my rogue is so bad that i was wearing warsong boots at lvl 58 |
| 06:36.57 | Kivin | gear is over rated before 58 |
| 06:37.04 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion toknik |
| 06:37.06 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Toknik, Level 59 Orc Rogue (11/39/0). 3281 HP; 604 AP; 146.500 Melee DPS; 15.65% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 19.14% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 647 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dylzk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nlq3w ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:46:07 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:37.24 | Arrowmaster | hellboars give me a run for my money |
| 06:37.31 | Arrowmaster | its that bad |
| 06:37.35 | Kivin | lol |
| 06:37.40 | rubik | hehe |
| 06:38.30 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck does my shitty rogue have 647 TBR? |
| 06:38.40 | Kivin | what's tbr? |
| 06:38.46 | Arrowmaster | ~tbr |
| 06:38.47 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 06:39.14 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion tokrim |
| 06:39.16 | rubik | hmm.. my druid logged out in tanking gear.. let's see |
| 06:39.17 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Tokrim, Level 70 Orc Warlock (42/0/19). 9580 HP; 8290 Mana; 108 mana regen; 101 spell crit; 195 spell hit; 936 +spell dmg; 183 frost dmg (1119); 285 shadow dmg (1221); 4.24% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1472 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9o3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37je8e ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:48:17 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:39.27 | rubik | !c us kilrogg orbu |
| 06:39.30 | ThraeBot | rubik: Orbu, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/49/11). 18148 HP; 7625 Mana; 158 mana regen; 30060 Armour; 1838 AP; 204.700 Melee DPS; 33.56% melee crit; 48 melee hit; 20 +spell dmg/heal; 116 defense; 44.94% dodge; 124 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1974 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22cmra ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2umcw9 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:48:31 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:39.32 | Kivin | ! us cenarion circle basolisu |
| 06:39.37 | Kivin | !c us cenarion circle basolisu |
| 06:39.39 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Basolisu, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (41/0/20). 7160 HP; 8573 Mana; 123 mana regen; 17 mp5; 8118 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 255 spell crit; 5 spell hit; 629 +spell dmg; 757 +heal; 43 nature dmg (672); 4.03% dodge; 5.00% block; 39 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1261 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yu2kz4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36h5pj ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:48:40 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:39.44 | rubik | iwin? |
| 06:40.01 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion tokelina |
| 06:40.03 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Tokelina, Level 40 Blood Elf Paladin (0/31/0). 2136 HP; 1502 Mana; 63 mana regen; 3710 Armour; 438 AP; 61.000 Melee DPS; 5.56% melee crit; 4.93% dodge; 5.08% block; +1 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 215 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x5oko ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39k9s6 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:49:04 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:40.31 | Kivin | scrub rogue is down to 296 DPS on my meter |
| 06:40.51 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion rainaroct |
| 06:40.52 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: rainaroct is not the character you are looking for! |
| 06:40.59 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion raineroct |
| 06:41.00 | ThraeBot | Sorry Arrowmaster, you must wait 7 seconds before making another request. |
| 06:41.05 | Arrowmaster | lol haste |
| 06:41.18 | rubik | had a fury warrior do about 2200 dps a week or so again on illhoof. lol |
| 06:41.20 | haste | one of those lines are three lines in my terminal |
| 06:41.25 | rubik | ago* |
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| 06:41.32 | haste | I'd rather not see it at all |
| 06:41.42 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion raineroct |
| 06:41.44 | Kivin | they're 5 lines here |
| 06:41.45 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Raineroct, Level 70 Orc Warrior (8/5/48). 15774 HP; 17755 Armour; 750 AP; 156.300 Melee DPS; 13.44% melee crit; 100 melee hit; 374 defense; 26.16% dodge; 31.20% block;[[ TBR: 1492 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26u7jb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s4gn2 ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 01:50:46 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:42.07 | Thrae | You can go to #thraebot and spam all you want |
| 06:42.18 | Thrae | It has its uses... |
| 06:42.23 | Thrae | !api GetSpellCooldown |
| 06:42.24 | ThraeBot | Thrae: start, duration, enabled = GetSpellCooldown(spellName or spellID, "bookType"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellCooldown |
| 06:43.34 | Kivin | Anyone never remember to pop their short trinket cooldowns? |
| 06:43.51 | Bruners | short trinket cooldowns? |
| 06:43.56 | Kivin | 2m cooldowns |
| 06:44.12 | Bruners | always if they are up |
| 06:44.28 | rubik | i always forget, yeah.. thinking about macro-ing them to mangle or something that i spam every 6 seconds |
| 06:44.35 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.38 | rubik | since some (most?) don't trigger GCD |
| 06:44.58 | Thrae | Kivin: I try to include them in macros. A simple macro is #show 13 <newline> /use 13 <end> and #show 14 <newline> /use 14 <end> |
| 06:44.59 | Kivin | i never seem to remember mine |
| 06:45.04 | Arrowmaster | i stoped using my icon of the silver cressent because id never use it |
| 06:45.25 | Thrae | Kivin: You can easily keybind those macros, they will always use trinket1 and trinket2 regardless of what's in the slot |
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| 06:46.18 | Kivin | think is, i only really hit one key in combat (lightning bolt) and i don't want to pop them for single target trash pulls n stuff |
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| 06:59.40 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60908 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 06:59.40 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 06:59.40 | CIA-10 | - Missing Icons added |
| 07:04.20 | Killmore | do you need transcript for kalegos ? the addon is working ? |
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| 07:04.52 | kebinusan | does transcript work with the comba tlog changes? |
| 07:04.59 | kebinusan | I havent been able to copy over and see |
| 07:05.12 | Arrowmaster | theres one in branches |
| 07:05.22 | kebinusan | ah good to know |
| 07:05.50 | kebinusan | killmore, posting it on the forums would be a good idea probably |
| 07:06.49 | Killmore | im too noob to use svn :( |
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| 07:07.57 | kebinusan | sec I can check it out and post it someplace |
| 07:09.10 | Killmore | thats ok |
| 07:09.14 | Killmore | its just 5 files |
| 07:09.18 | Killmore | I downloaded them manually |
| 07:12.20 | Thorgard | Kivin, your 2v2 arena team is.. interesting. ;P |
| 07:13.22 | Killmore | how transcriptor work kebinusan ? |
| 07:13.30 | Killmore | just install it and nothing to enable ? |
| 07:15.37 | lagger | how do i get this to work |
| 07:15.41 | lagger | string.gsub(icon,"\","\\") |
| 07:15.47 | lagger | icon is a path to some texture |
| 07:15.52 | lagger | like Interface\Something\Something |
| 07:15.58 | Ellipsis | double your slashes |
| 07:17.01 | Arrowmaster | why do you want to replace \ with \\? |
| 07:17.49 | lagger | because getspellinfo(spellid) returns the icon path with 1 \ |
| 07:17.59 | Ellipsis | er, so? |
| 07:18.11 | Arrowmaster | you only need it with 1 \ |
| 07:18.29 | lagger | rly |
| 07:18.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:18.34 | lagger | i thought if you settexture in lua it needs 2 \ |
| 07:18.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:18.49 | Ellipsis | that's only if you're typing a literal string |
| 07:18.56 | lagger | o |
| 07:19.01 | Ellipsis | because the \ is an escape character in lua strings |
| 07:19.06 | Arrowmaster | you type "some\\path" because thats how you type \ |
| 07:19.28 | Arrowmaster | or you type [=[some\path]=] |
| 07:19.46 | Arrowmaster | lua> [=[some\path]=] |
| 07:19.47 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: some\path |
| 07:21.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%q", [[some\path]]) |
| 07:21.23 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: "some\\path", |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60909 10Mapster/Locale/deDE.lua: Mapster: deDE locale by Farook |
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| 07:22.25 | Vexir | Can anyone tell me why Yata is displaying my water totem as a sub-button for the fire totems? |
| 07:22.37 | Vexir | it was working fine yesterday I don't know what happened |
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| 07:35.39 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60910 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 07:35.39 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 07:35.39 | CIA-10 | - Sunwell update |
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| 07:39.48 | Killmore | the new transcriptor is "check" in the addon list and I dont get any error at all but I dont find him by taping /ace3 or /transcriptor |
| 07:40.35 | CIA-10 | 03julith * r60911 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/ (GridFadedBar.lua GridStatusIncomingHealth.toc readme.txt): |
| 07:40.35 | CIA-10 | GridStatusIncomingHealth: |
| 07:40.35 | CIA-10 | - removed FadedBar cause Grid >= r60889 already has one |
| 07:40.36 | CIA-10 | - added note regarding Grid >= r60889 to readme.txt |
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| 07:43.53 | CIA-10 | 03thrae 07Ace3 * r60912 10MrPlow/ (Bindings.xml MrPlow.lua): MrPlow - Updated keybindings and added "theworks" and "banktheworks" (not optimized yet). |
| 07:49.32 | Corgan | what seems to be the limit on item queries for the PTR? |
| 07:50.35 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60913 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua): |
| 07:50.35 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:50.35 | CIA-10 | - Magister's Terrace added to stand-alone browser |
| 07:50.58 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel * r60914 10GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: fix tooltip code for multiple nodes in one place |
| 07:54.21 | mikma | nevcairiel: i need you |
| 07:54.27 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 07:54.30 | nevcairiel | i need me too |
| 07:55.14 | mikma | nevcairiel: GatherMate really could need an option where you can define a range where the veinnodes/herb/whatever get hidden :I |
| 07:55.28 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 07:55.37 | nevcairiel | what do you mean? |
| 07:55.50 | mikma | nevcairiel: like "hide veins within 50 yards from player" |
| 07:56.12 | mikma | that would mean that only the veins get shown. i did hide the circles because they are overlapping the veins |
| 07:56.41 | mikma | but when you hide the circles, they turn into icons instead (and are again over the veins) |
| 07:57.00 | nevcairiel | but .. but .. whats so bad about the circles? you can see the yellow vein spots through them |
| 07:57.10 | mikma | yes but you can't MOUSEOVER them |
| 07:57.24 | mikma | because it'll just tell you the stats of the CIRCLES instead |
| 07:57.38 | Grum | blame blizzard for that |
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| 07:57.53 | mikma | if you want to see what's the vein under the circles, you'll have to move the mouse over the minimap and try to get a pixel where you see the correct tooltip |
| 07:58.07 | Grum | they 'recently' changed that the nodes drawn on the minimap are again under any grapics you put on the minimap |
| 07:58.17 | Grum | i think they did that in 2.3.3 |
| 07:58.27 | mikma | nevcairiel: i just want the circles and icons to be hidden within like 50 yards from the player :I |
| 07:58.42 | mikma | Grum: and, that sucks ass big time |
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| 07:58.57 | Grum | mikma: no kidding |
| 07:59.08 | Grum | it has also not been broadcasted in any changenote |
| 07:59.15 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, azgalor's rain of fire is fucking idiotic |
| 07:59.19 | Grum | we accidently ran into it while coding on Routes |
| 07:59.33 | mikma | nevcairiel: go and try veining in Netherwing Ledge and you'll understand what i mean ;) |
| 07:59.53 | Elkano | also it can happen that the circles don't match the exact position of the vein |
| 08:00.05 | Arrowmaster | that happens a lot |
| 08:00.20 | mikma | it's the fact that there are so many circles and so many veins that it's impossible to see what's the actual vein near you |
| 08:00.25 | Elkano | and then it's even harder to spot if there is actually one spawned |
| 08:00.42 | Elkano | mikma, the line showing up twice ;) |
| 08:01.31 | mikma | this is why i'm requesting this "hide all circles and veins within xx yards from player" so you can freely mouseover the veins near you in minimap and actually see what they are :D |
| 08:01.58 | Arrowmaster | i need a new computer.... 100% cpu usage trying to watch a 1280x720 h264 video |
| 08:01.59 | Grum | mikma: i assume you are talking about GatherMate, if so it should not be much of a change to have a toggle whether or not to display the circles |
| 08:02.05 | Elkano | besides that I still wonder if the mini/map icon code could be put into a lib somehow so eg InFlight could use that... |
| 08:02.11 | Grum | Arrowmaster: the format is just broken |
| 08:02.25 | Grum | the compression is nicish but the amount of cpu needed just isnt fun anymore |
| 08:02.37 | mikma | Grum: there is a option to toggle *all* circless on and off. but then all the circles turn into ICONS! |
| 08:02.45 | mikma | and they still cover the veins pretty much :D |
| 08:02.48 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, get a new video card ;) |
| 08:02.48 | Grum | ofc |
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| 08:03.07 | Grum | mikma: then again,you should exclude netherwing ledge from your farming route |
| 08:03.11 | Arrowmaster | video card wouldnt do anything |
| 08:03.25 | Grum | for the same reason you should exclude the whole of Zangarmarsh |
| 08:03.28 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, iirc some cards come with hardware codecs |
| 08:03.37 | mikma | Grum: hell no, veins contain blue gems and netherwing eggs |
| 08:03.39 | Grum | Elkano: hardly any |
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| 08:03.54 | Grum | mikma: any vein contains blue gems |
| 08:04.02 | Grum | and the mobs contain netherwing eggs as well |
| 08:04.32 | mikma | Grum: like i don't know that. i have my reasons to vein instead of killing the mobs ;) |
| 08:04.56 | Arrowmaster | actually i just realized for some reason ffdshow was decoding it instead of coreavc |
| 08:05.10 | Grum | but mikma, the best thing you can do is request an option :) |
| 08:05.17 | Antiarc | Is there a LibStub library for caching party name<->unit IDs? |
| 08:05.27 | Grum | Antiarc: i think not yet |
| 08:05.31 | Antiarc | Then I write one! |
| 08:05.56 | NightHawkTheSane | couldn't that be folded into that guid library Arrowmaster was writing? |
| 08:05.57 | mikma | nevcairiel: well there you go, requesting that feature i just explained ;) |
| 08:05.59 | nevcairiel | as long as you dont bloat it like RosterLib :P |
| 08:06.06 | Antiarc | It's going to be lean and mean |
| 08:06.12 | NightHawkTheSane | although i guess they serve pretty distinct purposes so maybe not |
| 08:06.14 | Antiarc | Nothing more than unit ID <-> name and visa versa |
| 08:06.21 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: That's what I'm writing it for |
| 08:06.25 | Antiarc | But I'll also use it for Threat |
| 08:06.38 | Arrowmaster | doesnt roster do that? |
| 08:06.44 | Antiarc | Roster is ginormous |
| 08:06.50 | nevcairiel | and, not LibStub |
| 08:06.51 | Antiarc | And it has a big old dependency chain |
| 08:07.10 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I'm working on LibGUIDRoster - gonna add full party correlation, with distinction between player/pet |
| 08:07.18 | Antiarc | So even if you have a pet with the same name as the MT you can tell them apart |
| 08:07.29 | Antiarc | Permission to commit changes when they're done? |
| 08:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | so, no more "MainTank Has DIED!".. "Oh its a pet.." |
| 08:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ?:P |
| 08:07.50 | Antiarc | That's the idea! |
| 08:07.50 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 08:07.51 | Arrowmaster | going to hack up my lib? go for it thats the reason i created it |
| 08:07.55 | Antiarc | Heheh, okay |
| 08:08.03 | nevcairiel | combatlog flags will tell you when something is a pet |
| 08:08.06 | nevcairiel | (finally) |
| 08:08.07 | Grum | first of all, having a hunter pet with the same name of a player .. is just pathetic |
| 08:08.20 | nevcairiel | some hunters do that to annoy people |
| 08:08.26 | nevcairiel | because of those bugs in addons |
| 08:08.28 | ZOAS|Sleep | Is there a useful "2.4 PTR definitely borked addons" list handy? |
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| 08:08.41 | Arrowmaster | well you could also do that to mess with arena mods |
| 08:08.49 | Arrowmaster | since all they can do is /target name |
| 08:09.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I've seen hunters intentionally name pets after players. But I've also seen at least two instances of Hunters naming pets, and then we end up recruiting someone with the same name. |
| 08:09.40 | nevcairiel | ZealotOnAStick: anything that parses any form of combatlog |
| 08:10.05 | ZealotOnAStick | though I still think my favorite hunter pet name ever was Multishot |
| 08:10.06 | Elkano | Antiarc, will it also allow to check for a given name if you are grouped with it? (think so since it will return a unitid then) |
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| 08:10.49 | Antiarc | Sure, it'll just return nil if you aren't grouped with them |
| 08:10.49 | ZealotOnAStick | nev: other than those. I don't expect any meters or log formatting stuff to work. |
| 08:10.49 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: you can do that with the wow api i think |
| 08:10.49 | nevcairiel | meters parse combat log too |
| 08:11.07 | Arrowmaster | since you can use names in place of unitids for people in your party/raid |
| 08:11.15 | nevcairiel | anything that has remotely todo with the combat log will break, basically anything that has to with any form of spells :P |
| 08:11.24 | Arrowmaster | or is that only for slash commands |
| 08:11.45 | ZealotOnAStick | nevcairiel: hence why I don't expect meters to work. |
| 08:12.36 | Grum | nevcairiel: would be so nice if blizzard could just make the unitid<=>GUID function >< |
| 08:12.39 | nevcairiel | But, seeing how easy to use the new events are, it shouldnt be hard to adapt exisitng mods if their core is written properly |
| 08:12.47 | nevcairiel | Grum: will never happen :p |
| 08:12.50 | Grum | why not? |
| 08:13.03 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, well, it's the only thing I'm currently using RosterLib for ^^' |
| 08:13.38 | nevcairiel | Grum: because they dont want you to get the GUID of any unit that you didnt engage yet |
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| 08:14.16 | nevcairiel | Grum: once you cast your first spell on your target, you'll get its GUID |
| 08:14.21 | nevcairiel | that should be enough imho |
| 08:14.29 | Grum | i dont get that |
| 08:14.38 | Grum | why wouldnt they want you to have that info? O.o |
| 08:15.07 | Grum | mikma: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/?cs=52786 <-- that is when the change was implemented and it worked back then :( |
| 08:15.47 | nevcairiel | Grum: what do you need the GUID for anyway? |
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| 08:16.37 | Grum | nevcairiel: so not to have problems and making a big fat synclib and doing fuzzy logic with threatpools for a target |
| 08:17.11 | Grum | atm as healer i can now watch threat on a mob - i cant do that in the future because 'i dont engage it' - so that will only work if the unitname is unique |
| 08:17.20 | nevcairiel | once you enter combat with those mobs, you'll get its GUID, i dont get why having the guid before the fight makes it easier |
| 08:18.12 | nevcairiel | Grum: thats a easy sync.. threat just tells you name+guid of your targets target..^^ |
| 08:18.33 | nevcairiel | or if you target the mob, you'll figure out the guid too |
| 08:18.35 | Xinhuan | i don't see why you are complaining to us Grum, its blizzard decision not to give us the unitID<-->GUID function, not our decision |
| 08:18.47 | Grum | i know, i just say it would be easier :0 |
| 08:18.57 | Xinhuan | saying "why not?" is begging a rhethoric question |
| 08:19.08 | nevcairiel | there is always a way to make stuff easier |
| 08:19.15 | nevcairiel | but i dont see a pressing need for UnitGUID() |
| 08:19.26 | nevcairiel | you can do anythign without it |
| 08:19.30 | Grum | true its completely 'nice to have' |
| 08:19.56 | nevcairiel | and we shouldnt complain, the new combatlog events really rock and make our life easier as it is |
| 08:19.59 | Xinhuan | if blizz wanted you to have it, they would have given it |
| 08:20.01 | nevcairiel | goodbye stupid parser libs |
| 08:20.28 | Xinhuan | we dont know why they want us not to have it, but yeah... |
| 08:20.45 | ZealotOnAStick | won't there be some amount of parsing required? |
| 08:20.52 | ZealotOnAStick | or are they -that- superbly informative now? |
| 08:21.07 | nevcairiel | the events are pretty much straight forward |
| 08:21.14 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick, the amount of parsing atm we're doing in 2.3 is that we take the "english combat log string" and parse out the unitname, damage, etc data out of it |
| 08:21.28 | Grum | i wonder how this will affect cpu usage :) |
| 08:21.28 | Xinhuan | in 2.4, those things we want to parse out, are given to us directly in args, so we don't have to even parse them |
| 08:21.34 | Grum | it should all be way less |
| 08:21.47 | Xinhuan | that's the main difference |
| 08:21.49 | Grum | especially in those aoe-fights where you have to parse hundreds of events per second |
| 08:22.05 | Xinhuan | 2.4 combat log will then use locale specific gsubs() to sub in the args into the output to display |
| 08:22.07 | Arrowmaster | and we get a type arg so we dont even have to look at the rest of the args for stuff we dont care about |
| 08:22.24 | Xinhuan | its extremely efficient |
| 08:22.33 | Grum | tbh, its quite amazing how much blizzard does for the UI-coders |
| 08:22.34 | nevcairiel | the events contain all the information directly, no need for string parsing |
| 08:22.39 | nevcairiel | you get alot of args with the events |
| 08:22.41 | Xinhuan | then trying to reverse parse a string |
| 08:22.50 | Grum | you see no other MMORPG making these kind of 'wanted' API changes |
| 08:23.06 | nevcairiel | like, "amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing = select(4, ...);" |
| 08:23.11 | nevcairiel | thats amazingly easy to use |
| 08:23.14 | Grum | yeah :) |
| 08:23.20 | Arrowmaster | do any other mmorpgs have as customizable guis as wow? |
| 08:23.24 | Antiarc | No other MMO has 10mil users >_> |
| 08:23.27 | Xinhuan | and the "school" variable there would be a bitflag |
| 08:23.40 | CIA-10 | 03trasher * r60915 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 08:23.40 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:23.40 | CIA-10 | - frFR update |
| 08:23.49 | Xinhuan | 100000 indicates arcane damage, 010000 indicates frost damage, etc |
| 08:23.55 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 08:24.03 | Arrowmaster | so many people use mods that to keep the customers happy they keep us coders happy (as much as they can) |
| 08:24.06 | Grum | Xinhuan: so no mor parsing ! :D |
| 08:24.17 | nevcairiel | parsing is at a minimum now |
| 08:24.23 | nevcairiel | really no need for a parserlib |
| 08:24.28 | Grum | just bitwise comparison right? |
| 08:24.29 | Xinhuan | the only parsing you need is to apply a bitmask |
| 08:24.36 | Xinhuan | and they gave us a bit. library |
| 08:24.40 | Xinhuan | for that purpose |
| 08:24.41 | Grum | :P |
| 08:24.47 | Grum | blizzard > * |
| 08:24.51 | Arrowmaster | isnt bitlib a little slow too though? |
| 08:24.52 | Wobin | what's a good random chatter for res macros? |
| 08:25.03 | Xinhuan | it's still 100x faster than reverse string parse |
| 08:25.04 | Grum | Arrowmaster: its faster than parsing a whole string of text |
| 08:25.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:25.14 | Xinhuan | strmatch(blah blah) |
| 08:25.30 | Thrae | Wobin: Try RPHelper2. |
| 08:25.31 | Arrowmaster | but i still good usage of bitlib should be encuraged |
| 08:25.44 | Grum | Xinhuan: on your server, does it ever happen that there is no Adamanite Ore on the AH at all? |
| 08:25.52 | Arrowmaster | like look at what i did for the raidtargets in LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 |
| 08:25.54 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: What's CallbackHandler do in a nutshell? |
| 08:25.59 | Xinhuan | yes, if me and some other JCs decide to empty the market |
| 08:26.04 | Xinhuan | it happens quite often |
| 08:26.09 | Grum | but also for a complete weekend? |
| 08:26.09 | Antiarc | Other than handle callbacks |
| 08:26.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:26.18 | Grum | its wonky :) |
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| 08:26.27 | Xinhuan | thats how perfect competition works |
| 08:26.40 | Arrowmaster | local raidtarget = bit_band(Flags, LIB_FILTER_RAIDTARGET) |
| 08:26.41 | Grum | i know for a fact that the people that put stuff up didnt have their shit sold (at least the farmers) |
| 08:26.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Grum: yeah, it's too useful for prospecting. |
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| 08:26.55 | Arrowmaster | raidtarget = (raidtarget == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET8 and 8) or (raidtarget == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET7 and 7) or etc |
| 08:27.15 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: well it handles callbacks, basically like custom events that you fire, you can either fire them through AceEvent :SendMessage, or setup your own CallbackHandler and addons that are interested in those events Register with your library, instead of AceEvent |
| 08:27.18 | ZealotOnAStick | adamantite is way more efficient for prospecting blue gems than fel iron. |
| 08:27.23 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:27.33 | Antiarc | Okay, great, so it is analogous to Ace3 messages. |
| 08:27.54 | Wobin | thrae: ta |
| 08:27.55 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: if you use AceEvent already for other stuff, its probably easier to use AceEvent SendMessage |
| 08:27.56 | Antiarc | lib.callbacks:Fire("LibGroup_PartyChanged") <-- for letting people react to party changes - look right? |
| 08:28.11 | Antiarc | Yeah, this is pure LibStub - trying to avoid framework entanglement for it |
| 08:28.30 | nevcairiel | sure looks right, altho with CallbackHandler you could save the LibGroup prefix |
| 08:28.38 | Antiarc | Oh, great. |
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| 08:28.52 | Antiarc | How would I register for that callback? |
| 08:28.56 | Antiarc | From another addon? |
| 08:29.08 | Arrowmaster | theres a wiki page |
| 08:29.09 | nevcairiel | lib:RegisterCallback("PartyChanged", function() do stuff end) |
| 08:29.18 | Antiarc | Ooh, great. Thanks. |
| 08:29.23 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 08:29.35 | Antiarc | That's assuming the lib is embedded, I assume |
| 08:29.44 | nevcairiel | or rather, should probably be lib.RegisterCallback(addon, "PartyChanged", function() do stuff end) |
| 08:29.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats embeded |
| 08:30.08 | Antiarc | Well, I'm making this embeddable, so yeah. |
| 08:30.13 | Antiarc | Guess it'll work either way. |
| 08:30.21 | Antiarc | Danke :) |
| 08:30.50 | nevcairiel | you should probably rename the RegisterCallback and Unregister functions if you make it embedable |
| 08:30.53 | nevcairiel | so it doesnt collide |
| 08:30.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 08:31.08 | Antiarc | Thanks, Arrowmaster |
| 08:32.19 | Arrowmaster | its very tempting to use OnUsed and OnUnused to create a library that has lots of features but only does them if something using the library wants them |
| 08:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | aaaaandd.. azgalor trash can suck me. >< |
| 08:36.40 | nevcairiel | kaz trash is more annoying imho |
| 08:36.53 | NightHawkTheSane | tough call |
| 08:36.58 | nevcairiel | the infernals are easy |
| 08:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the infernals are a joke |
| 08:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | but the necromancers keep owning us |
| 08:39.59 | Snago | keep the ones not getting killed CCd (sheeped, feared or even cycloned). It's much easier without hundreds of summoned mobs. We learned that the hard way :P |
| 08:43.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, kind of sucked that we only had one mage today |
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| 08:44.22 | NightHawkTheSane | and mostly the issue is just the first few seconds, a tank gets one shot, and then usually a healer or two right after |
| 08:44.51 | durcyn | have your shadow priests mind contorl them |
| 08:44.58 | durcyn | and put unholy frenzy on the melee ;) |
| 08:45.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
| 08:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't know you could MC them, dont think we'd t hought of that |
| 08:45.33 | ZealotOnAStick | The one wave that's like 4 necros 4 banshees 4 felhunters . . . |
| 08:45.52 | ZealotOnAStick | we just make sure on the wave beforehand that we kite enough Tauren Warriors up to the battle, then keep a felhunter banished until the next wave shows up. |
| 08:46.13 | ZealotOnAStick | then the squishy casters get a stunlock beatdown. |
| 08:46.16 | Corgan | Anyone else notice the combat log moving up on the PTR? |
| 08:46.25 | ZealotOnAStick | there's all kinds of bugs with it right now. |
| 08:46.40 | ZealotOnAStick | it moves around, throws errors when you undock it . . . |
| 08:47.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah i got a big fat framexml error the first time i undocked it from the main chat frame |
| 08:47.46 | Corgan | It wont redock for me |
| 08:47.47 | Corgan | :( |
| 08:47.50 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:47.55 | Corgan | It throws an error |
| 08:48.25 | Corgan | I wanna do Terrace, but nobody wants to take a moonkin :< |
| 08:49.24 | Corgan | The Sun's Reach Sanctum will be ours in no time. We are 24 percent done with this goal. |
| 08:49.24 | Corgan | wee |
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| 08:50.44 | Antiarc | Anyone on PVE PTR? |
| 08:50.55 | Arrowmaster | i can be |
| 08:50.58 | Arrowmaster | but im horde |
| 08:51.01 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 08:51.06 | Antiarc | Can you roll up a draenei or something? |
| 08:51.12 | Antiarc | I just want to make sure this works before I commit |
| 08:51.15 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:51.16 | Antiarc | Actually |
| 08:51.19 | Antiarc | I'll ask in general first |
| 08:51.40 | Arrowmaster | find Ellipsis` if shes still around |
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| 08:57.59 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60916 10LibGroup-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibGroup-1.0: Provides cached name -> unit ID translation |
| 08:59.54 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 09:00.04 | Arrowmaster | lib.frame:RegisterEvent("RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE", "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED") |
| 09:00.18 | Arrowmaster | you can do that with the blizzard RegisterEvent? |
| 09:00.19 | Elkano | Antiarc, party was 5 man, raid > 5 man and group the general term, right? |
| 09:00.25 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: nah :) |
| 09:00.32 | Antiarc | Elkano: Yeah |
| 09:00.35 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: i found a bug |
| 09:00.37 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Haha, doh |
| 09:00.40 | Antiarc | Thanks, I'll fix. |
| 09:00.56 | Arrowmaster | do what i did in LibGUIDRegistery-0.1 |
| 09:01.04 | thul | hmm |
| 09:02.13 | Arrowmaster | also your lib.frame is setup a bit wrong |
| 09:02.31 | Arrowmaster | your making a new one on a lib upgrade |
| 09:02.49 | Arrowmaster | oh wait nvm |
| 09:02.51 | Antiarc | How so? It checks if not lib.frame |
| 09:03.11 | Arrowmaster | nothing ignore me |
| 09:03.16 | Antiarc | Hehe, okay |
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| 09:03.37 | Antiarc | I'm an admitted LibStub noob |
| 09:04.13 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60917 10LibGroup-1.0/LibGroup-1.0/LibGroup-1.0.lua: LibGroup-1.0: Blizzard event registration is not as robust as AceEvent's! |
| 09:05.01 | Arrowmaster | why are you doing target stuff in your focus change event and focus stuff in your target change event? |
| 09:05.19 | Antiarc | Because if you clear the target, you'll want to fall back to a potential focus target |
| 09:05.22 | Antiarc | And visa versa |
| 09:05.41 | Antiarc | It only stores one unit ID per, not all possible unit IDs |
| 09:05.53 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 09:05.56 | Antiarc | idea being that you just want to get any one unit ID to a unit by name |
| 09:07.08 | Grum | Antiarc: so how does it handle multiple ghouls (for example) |
| 09:07.28 | Antiarc | It doesn't. focus and target are provided for convenience, but are expected to be edge cases |
| 09:07.34 | Antiarc | For the most part, it's for in-party translation. |
| 09:08.35 | Arrowmaster | maybe you should use UnitPlayerOrPetInParty("unit") and UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid("unit") then |
| 09:09.02 | Antiarc | Isn't there an API method for that already? |
| 09:09.08 | Antiarc | UnitInParty, UnitInRaid |
| 09:09.13 | Arrowmaster | those are different |
| 09:09.29 | Arrowmaster | actually |
| 09:09.33 | Arrowmaster | now that you mention it |
| 09:09.36 | Arrowmaster | your lib is useless |
| 09:09.41 | Elkano | well, for pets it also gets hard again |
| 09:09.42 | Antiarc | Hah, why's that? |
| 09:09.59 | Arrowmaster | go test out UnitInParty() and UnitInRaid() |
| 09:10.07 | nevcairiel | they accept player names |
| 09:10.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:10.11 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 09:10.13 | Arrowmaster | UnitInParty("PlayerName") |
| 09:10.13 | Antiarc | Awesome. |
| 09:10.23 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt return nil/1 |
| 09:10.24 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 09:10.53 | Antiarc | Sweet. Most all the Unit* methods take a name. |
| 09:11.15 | nevcairiel | ya they added that a few patches ago |
| 09:11.21 | Arrowmaster | anywhere you can use a unitid you can use a name if the name is somebody in your party/raid |
| 09:11.42 | Arrowmaster | this is why stuff like this should go into branches first |
| 09:11.51 | nevcairiel | meh you can still delete :P |
| 09:12.00 | Arrowmaster | its still on files even after a delete |
| 09:12.05 | thul | I'm waiting for: Mutilate: This ability will no longer have a positioning requirement and will ignore 80% of the opponents resilience" |
| 09:12.12 | Kerafyrm | ahhh cold beer right after work.. |
| 09:12.14 | Kerafyrm | heaven |
| 09:12.21 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60918 10LibGroup-1.0/: LibGroup-1.0: Not needed! Unit*() methods take names! :O |
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| 09:12.45 | Arrowmaster | now |
| 09:12.57 | Arrowmaster | i have a task for you Antiarc since your on the ptr |
| 09:13.12 | Elkano | maybe I should update FriendsFu/GuildFu then ^^' |
| 09:13.18 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, i think it goes OFF the files, if you add an invalid external :) |
| 09:13.20 | Xinhuan | then you delete it |
| 09:13.31 | Xinhuan | files.wowace.com that is |
| 09:13.35 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Sure |
| 09:13.37 | nevcairiel | or just msg kaelten about it |
| 09:14.09 | Arrowmaster | click a unitname in your combatlog and get the itemreftooltip for it, notice the healthbar that updates as the units health updates, FIND US A UNITID FOR THAT! |
| 09:14.37 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 09:14.38 | Antiarc | Interesting |
| 09:14.40 | Corgan | wait what |
| 09:14.56 | Arrowmaster | i also want to customize that tooltip...... |
| 09:15.06 | Arrowmaster | which is hard without a unitid............ |
| 09:15.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you know... files.wowace should support apt-get or something. >.> |
| 09:15.40 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60919 10Checklist2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:15.40 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 09:15.40 | CIA-10 | - AceDB-2.0 wasn't listed as an external. Fixed. |
| 09:15.40 | CIA-10 | - Comm system started |
| 09:15.40 | CIA-10 | - Eye-candy changes :D |
| 09:16.30 | Corgan | oh wow, that's awesome |
| 09:16.34 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 09:16.43 | Arrowmaster | i think the unit has to be visable though |
| 09:16.43 | Grum | Arrowmaster: mmm that is a nice find :P |
| 09:16.55 | Grum | as in 'drawed' or 'loaded' ? |
| 09:17.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:17.18 | Grum | on your screen would be a bit silly, what if you stare at the sky? ;D |
| 09:17.21 | Arrowmaster | as in UnitExists("IFITHADAUNITIDWEKNEW!") |
| 09:17.33 | Grum | ^^ |
| 09:17.45 | Grum | but if blizzard does it we can also do it |
| 09:21.15 | Arrowmaster | omg rofl |
| 09:21.33 | Arrowmaster | Error, attempted to look up model for player with sex %d (UNITSEX_NONE), all players have sex! =D |
| 09:21.42 | Arrowmaster | from ptr exe in hex editor |
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| 09:22.36 | Arrowmaster | i didnt add that "=D" its really there |
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| 09:23.10 | durcyn | you routinely search for the word sex in hex editors? |
| 09:23.18 | Arrowmaster | no i was looking for player |
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| 09:25.34 | Orionshock | ... how to put in a search box... |
| 09:26.21 | Arrowmaster | !s_currentWorldFrame || !"Error, why is there more than one world frame being created?" |
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| 09:29.19 | Corgan | intersting.. |
| 09:29.32 | danshrugged | does anyone know what order the client loads the mpq files? is it common, expansion, patch, patch-2, etc...? |
| 09:29.48 | Antiarc | danshrugged: FileMon should tell you |
| 09:29.52 | Antiarc | Wait, crud, you're on a mac |
| 09:30.00 | Antiarc | lsof, maybe |
| 09:30.07 | danshrugged | nah, I'm in windows now, it's an intel mac |
| 09:30.13 | Antiarc | google FileMon then |
| 09:30.19 | danshrugged | wicked, thanks |
| 09:30.39 | Elkano | ok, works :) dropping RosterLib from FriendsFu/GuildFu ^^ |
| 09:31.17 | ramoz | The character copy queue is currently full. |
| 09:31.19 | ramoz | =( |
| 09:34.04 | danshrugged | Antiarc: forgot I only have wow installed on the windows side...guess I'm getting tired =P |
| 09:34.10 | Antiarc | heheh |
| 09:34.12 | danshrugged | *mac side |
| 09:34.19 | Arrowmaster | partypet%d raidpet%d party%d raid%d -pet- -target- -pet -target npc focus mouseover commentator raid raidpet party partypet pet |
| 09:34.26 | Arrowmaster | wtf -pet works? |
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| 09:35.37 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if that works for everything |
| 09:35.49 | Arrowmaster | focuspet targetpet |
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| 09:36.15 | danshrugged | anyhow before I install and test it, do you think it's safe to assume that if the same file is in more than one mpq, the last one to load is the one used? |
| 09:36.32 | Antiarc | Yes, it is |
| 09:36.41 | Antiarc | The machanima guys use that to their advantage |
| 09:36.52 | Antiarc | Create custom MPQs named zzz.mpq and it loads after everything else |
| 09:37.02 | danshrugged | clever clever |
| 09:37.24 | CIA-10 | 03elkano * r60920 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (FuBar_FriendsFu.lua FuBar_FriendsFu.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): FuBar_FriendsFu: removed RosterLib |
| 09:37.29 | CIA-10 | 03elkano * r60921 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (FuBar_GuildFu.lua FuBar_GuildFu.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): FuBar_GuildFu: removed RosterLib |
| 09:38.06 | Grum | The machanima guys <--? |
| 09:38.15 | Antiarc | People that do movies with WoW |
| 09:38.19 | Grum | aaah |
| 09:38.20 | Antiarc | I probably spelled it wrong |
| 09:38.23 | Antiarc | I always do :P |
| 09:38.33 | Kivin | http://www.machinima101.com/ |
| 09:38.58 | Tem | but... |
| 09:39.09 | Tem | messing with mpqs gets you flagged by warden |
| 09:39.17 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 09:39.27 | Kivin | warden? |
| 09:39.29 | Antiarc | Maybe altering Blizzard MPQs |
| 09:39.37 | Antiarc | Perhaps it doesn't check for custom MPQs |
| 09:39.47 | FinalX | Kivin: the launcher checks your system against some shit |
| 09:40.01 | Arrowmaster | not just the launcher |
| 09:40.04 | Grum | is it the launcher? that would be stupid |
| 09:40.05 | Tem | if that's the case, I'm exceedingly tempted to make myself another race with that technique |
| 09:40.14 | Grum | Tem: you can |
| 09:40.24 | Tem | I know it's possible |
| 09:40.30 | Tem | it's the fear of retribution that stops me |
| 09:40.41 | FinalX | Grum: nah, not just the launcher, the warden is in the normal client as well, but people usually know what the warden does if i mention the launcher |
| 09:40.45 | Grum | the only thing is that you can not replace unit-models without altering wow.exe |
| 09:41.05 | FinalX | you could in the past |
| 09:41.06 | Grum | and therefor breaking the CoC and flagged by Warden |
| 09:41.14 | FinalX | i even had a nude patch for nelfs at some point :P |
| 09:41.20 | Kivin | ... |
| 09:41.21 | Grum | for all races |
| 09:41.26 | Tem | that's not modifying the models |
| 09:41.30 | Tem | that's modifying the texture |
| 09:41.32 | danshrugged | I'm only extracting stuff, not changing anything ... but good to know |
| 09:41.33 | Grum | nope that is 'legal' |
| 09:41.38 | FinalX | i know |
| 09:43.20 | Arrowmaster | FUCK YES! |
| 09:43.32 | Corgan | ? |
| 09:43.47 | Kivin | Frames created with CreateFrame should not remember their position across sessions like XML Frames, yes? |
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| 09:43.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 09:44.17 | Maldivia | Kivin: if they are present when the layout cache is loaded, and you call SetUserPlaced on them |
| 09:44.30 | Kivin | Maldivia: I mean by default |
| 09:44.35 | CIA-10 | 03pettigrow * r60922 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: GatherMate: frFR Update |
| 09:44.53 | Maldivia | Kivin: frames only persist position to layout cache if you call SetUserPlaced - so by default no |
| 09:44.57 | Arrowmaster | OnTooltipSetQuest OnTooltipSetSpell OnTooltipSetItem OnTooltipSetUnit OnTooltipAddMoney OnTooltipCleared OnTooltipSetDefaultAnchor |
| 09:45.05 | Arrowmaster | notice the new widget funcs? |
| 09:45.18 | Arrowmaster | somebody add them to the wiki! |
| 09:46.03 | Antiarc | Here's a fun question |
| 09:46.17 | Antiarc | Every time your pet despawns and respawns - |
| 09:46.20 | Antiarc | Does it get a new GUID? |
| 09:46.21 | Corgan | yes |
| 09:46.23 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:46.26 | Antiarc | sunnabitch. |
| 09:46.34 | Arrowmaster | not sure about mounting though |
| 09:46.52 | Arrowmaster | but if it dies and despawns and you summon a new one its a new guid |
| 09:46.54 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: which are you refering to? haven't the always been there? |
| 09:47.11 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia: quest, spell, unit? |
| 09:47.26 | Maldivia | spell and unit has always been ther |
| 09:47.28 | Arrowmaster | quest deffently wasnt |
| 09:47.36 | Maldivia | quest I don't know, never used it |
| 09:47.39 | Corgan | Quest wasn't |
| 09:47.43 | Corgan | Unit and Spell are |
| 09:48.06 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60923 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: deDE update |
| 09:48.18 | Elkano | well, you couldn't link quests in chat before ^^ so there was no need for such an API |
| 09:48.24 | Maldivia | yeah ok, comparing to 2.3.3, quest isn't there |
| 09:50.25 | Maldivia | btw, anyone got the texture-tokens working? |
| 09:50.35 | Maldivia | (ie {star) etc) |
| 09:51.05 | Arrowmaster | somebody check if tooltip:SetPossession() is valid |
| 09:51.07 | Elkano | texture-tokens? tell me more |
| 09:51.48 | Maldivia | Elkano: fontstrings, chatframes etc support inline textures now, usnig |Tpath:size|t format |
| 09:52.18 | Snago | Elkano: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11279.msg178475#msg178475 |
| 09:52.21 | Maldivia | Elkano: and apparently, there are some short-hand tokens for the raid-target icons, {rt#} and {star} {cross} etc |
| 09:52.32 | Maldivia | but can't get the latter to work |
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| 09:52.45 | Arrowmaster | they dont work in chat? |
| 09:52.56 | Maldivia | when I use them, all I see is the text, and no icon |
| 09:53.06 | Arrowmaster | in chat right? not localy? |
| 09:53.23 | Elkano | cool |
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| 09:54.20 | Maldivia | tried sendinf the following over chat: "\124T{star}\124t test" => SendChatMessage error, "{star} test" => no texture-replacement |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-10 | 03celellach * r60924 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-10 | - added Latro's Dancing Blade |
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| 09:54.36 | Antiarc | If a player dies and unghosts, do they get a new GUID? |
| 09:54.39 | Antiarc | How about when they relog? |
| 09:54.46 | Arrowmaster | yeah you cant send |T|t over chat |
| 09:54.53 | Arrowmaster | players should always have the same guid |
| 09:56.17 | Orionshock | GUID / Bitfield not the same thing ?? |
| 09:56.24 | Maldivia | correct |
| 09:56.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:56.32 | Arrowmaster | they are seperate |
| 09:56.43 | Orionshock | ok so what's this GUID everyone speaks of? |
| 09:56.48 | Maldivia | guid = unique identifier |
| 09:56.58 | Orionshock | no no, what's it look like?? |
| 09:57.07 | Maldivia | 0x000000000000412356 |
| 09:57.08 | Arrowmaster | 0x000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 09:57.09 | Maldivia | for instance |
| 09:57.10 | CIA-10 | 03pettigrow * r60925 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: frFR Update |
| 09:57.17 | Orionshock | isn't that a bit field? |
| 09:57.25 | Arrowmaster | its a number |
| 09:57.27 | Maldivia | no, 0x511 is a bit field example |
| 09:57.28 | Arrowmaster | in hex |
| 09:57.29 | nevcairiel | its a 32bit int |
| 09:57.33 | Maldivia | 64-bit |
| 09:57.38 | nevcairiel | or 64 :P |
| 09:57.56 | Orionshock | ok... so does one have anything to do with the other? |
| 09:58.05 | Arrowmaster | yes and no |
| 09:58.10 | nevcairiel | the GUID is just a number |
| 09:58.21 | Xinhuan | uh a 64 bit field is at most 0xFFFF ;p |
| 09:58.35 | Maldivia | the bit field tells your the how the unit relates to you (friend, enemy, your pet, you, your party member, etc) |
| 09:58.41 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 09:58.45 | Xinhuan | thats only 16 bits ~_ |
| 09:58.46 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: that's 16 bit :) |
| 09:58.49 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:58.56 | FinalX | ^.- |
| 09:59.16 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("0x%X", 2^64) |
| 09:59.16 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0x0, |
| 09:59.16 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: and yeah, there were two digits too many in my example :9 |
| 09:59.21 | CIA-10 | 03celellach * r60926 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:59.21 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:59.21 | CIA-10 | - small fix |
| 09:59.23 | FinalX | lol |
| 09:59.36 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 09:59.40 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%#X", 2^50) |
| 09:59.40 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
| 09:59.49 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%#X", 2^20) |
| 09:59.49 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0X100000, |
| 09:59.52 | Maldivia | lua> string.format("0x%X", 2^64-1) |
| 09:59.52 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0x0, |
| 09:59.53 | Xinhuan | you know what i should do? |
| 09:59.55 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:59.56 | Maldivia | baah |
| 09:59.58 | Xinhuan | i should write this ingame addon |
| 09:59.59 | Xinhuan | called |
| 10:00.02 | Arrowmaster | its broken ish |
| 10:00.03 | Xinhuan | "Teron Gorefiend Simulator" |
| 10:00.11 | durcyn | or just use the flash one? |
| 10:00.20 | Xinhuan | the flash one is harder than the real thing ;p |
| 10:00.20 | Maldivia | lua> string.format("0x%X", -1) |
| 10:00.20 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0xFFFFFFFF, |
| 10:00.24 | Xinhuan | but an ingame one is cooler! |
| 10:00.35 | Arrowmaster | string.format is brokenish |
| 10:00.53 | Maldivia | %X is only 32-bit apparently :9 |
| 10:01.04 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("0x%X", 2^32) |
| 10:01.05 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0x0, |
| 10:01.09 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("0x%X", 2^32-1) |
| 10:01.09 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0xFFFFFFFF, |
| 10:01.20 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 10:01.28 | Xinhuan | correct, lua can only parse a maximum of 32 bit hex input |
| 10:01.37 | Xinhuan | if you go over, it caps it at 32 bit |
| 10:01.44 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:01.45 | Xinhuan | (only in wow) |
| 10:01.46 | Corgan | wacha guys doin |
| 10:01.56 | Arrowmaster | the guid is way larger than 64 bit btw |
| 10:02.09 | nevcairiel | nah the GUID is 64bit |
| 10:02.23 | Xinhuan | yeah but the GUID isn't represented as a hex number |
| 10:02.26 | Xinhuan | that is my point |
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| 10:02.34 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 10:02.35 | nevcairiel | whats it then? :P |
| 10:02.58 | Antiarc | 0xF1300040840872BB is hex :P |
| 10:03.03 | nevcairiel | 0xF13000002800192A |
| 10:03.04 | Antiarc | (which is the mob I just killed) |
| 10:03.05 | Xinhuan | if you did a local a = 0xFFFFFFFFF <-- exceeds 32 bit, it caps it at 32 bit |
| 10:03.09 | Xinhuan | unless htey fixed it |
| 10:03.17 | Arrowmaster | slouken probably did |
| 10:03.25 | Arrowmaster | he fixed the included bitlib |
| 10:03.38 | nevcairiel | 0xF13000002800192A is 8 pairs of 1 byte each, which is 64bit number |
| 10:03.43 | Xinhuan | what i'm saying is, lua in wow doesn't accept a string parsed hex digit that is > 32 bit |
| 10:03.56 | Xinhuan | but if you already have a number > than that, its stored in 64 bit anyway |
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| 10:04.23 | Maldivia | lua> string.format("0x%8X%8X", bit.brshift(2^64-1, 32), bit.band(2^64-1, 2^32-1)) |
| 10:04.23 | lua_bot | Maldivia: [string "string.format("0x%8X%8X", bit.brshift(2^64-..."]:1: attempt to call field 'brshift' (a nil value) |
| 10:04.25 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = 0xF13000002800192A; return(num) |
| 10:04.25 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1.7379390962694e+19 |
| 10:04.35 | Xinhuan | its only an issue in wow's lua |
| 10:04.40 | Xinhuan | outside wow, it works fine |
| 10:04.52 | Maldivia | lua> string.format("0x%8X%8X", bit.rshift(2^64-1, 32), bit.band(2^64-1, 2^32-1)) |
| 10:04.53 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0x 0 0, |
| 10:04.56 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = 0xF13000002800192A; num == (0xF13000002800192A + 1) |
| 10:04.56 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "local num = 0xF13000002800192A; num == (0xF13000002800192A + 1)"]:1: '=' expected near '==' |
| 10:04.57 | Maldivia | baah |
| 10:05.03 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = 0xF13000002800192A; return num == (0xF13000002800192A + 1) |
| 10:05.03 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: true |
| 10:05.06 | nevcairiel | hrm :P |
| 10:05.10 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60927 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ (LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.toc): LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: Add self/pet/group GUID tracking. Robust'd GetGUID by allowing the names of party members to be passed in as well, yielding a GUID for a given party member name. |
| 10:05.54 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = 0xF13000002800192A; return num == (0xF13000002800192A + 100) |
| 10:05.55 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: true |
| 10:05.58 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 10:06.02 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:06.24 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if that means no using bitlib on guids? |
| 10:06.30 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: you've just proved the existance of God, that 0 == 1, that you can create something out of nothing |
| 10:06.43 | nevcairiel | why would you use bitlib on guids anyway? |
| 10:06.45 | Corgan | wee |
| 10:06.54 | Xinhuan | if you don't believe me |
| 10:06.56 | Xinhuan | go load up your wow |
| 10:06.57 | Xinhuan | go do |
| 10:07.01 | Xinhuan | /run num = 0xF13000002800192A |
| 10:07.06 | Xinhuan | then |
| 10:07.10 | Xinhuan | /dump format("%X", num) |
| 10:07.15 | Xinhuan | you will see "FFFFFFFF" |
| 10:07.17 | Xinhuan | printed |
| 10:07.35 | Xinhuan | if you do /dump num |
| 10:07.36 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = 0xF13000002800192A; return format("%X", 0xF13000002800192A) |
| 10:07.37 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0 |
| 10:07.40 | Xinhuan | you will see 2^32-1 printed |
| 10:07.43 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: because we know part of teh guid for mobs is an identifier and should always be the same for that type of mob |
| 10:07.46 | Maldivia | lua> string.format("%X", 0xF13000002800192A) |
| 10:07.47 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0, |
| 10:07.57 | Corgan | *coughs* |
| 10:07.58 | Xinhuan | again this only applies in game |
| 10:08.04 | Maldivia | hmm, weird - it prints FFFFFFFF in my lua console |
| 10:08.11 | Corgan | are we trying to get unit IDs from the GUID? |
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| 10:08.27 | Orionshock | won't happen |
| 10:08.28 | Xinhuan | exactly, i told you wow's hex number parsing caps it at 0xFFFFFFFF |
| 10:08.30 | Maldivia | naah, just playing with 64-bit numbers :9 |
| 10:08.41 | Corgan | what wont happen |
| 10:08.46 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: it's not wow's hex number, it's luas string.format |
| 10:08.55 | Xinhuan | if you specify the number in any manner that doesn't start with 0x |
| 10:08.56 | Xinhuan | its fine |
| 10:08.59 | Xinhuan | go try |
| 10:09.05 | Orionshock | Corgan: not going to get UnitID's from GUID's |
| 10:09.07 | Corgan | orly? |
| 10:09.09 | Xinhuan | /run num = 0xF13000002800192A |
| 10:09.13 | Xinhuan | then /dump num |
| 10:09.19 | Xinhuan | it wil print the value 2^32-1 |
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| 10:09.36 | Corgan | I'm tempted... |
| 10:09.38 | Corgan | blah |
| 10:09.39 | Corgan | lua> GUID = "0xF130004AC4001A77"; print("http://www.wowhead.com/?npc="..tonumber(string.sub(GUID,6,12),16)) |
| 10:09.39 | lua_bot | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19140 |
| 10:09.40 | Xinhuan | which shows that it parses the number 0xF13000002800192A |
| 10:09.42 | Xinhuan | incorrectly |
| 10:10.07 | Corgan | and yes, that's the GUID of the pitfighter |
| 10:10.15 | Arrowmaster | Corgan: I LOVE YOU! |
| 10:10.16 | Corgan | well, a GUID of one |
| 10:10.23 | Xinhuan | again, i say that this is only an issue for parsing numbers that start with 0xblah blah |
| 10:10.35 | Corgan | the last 6 digits are random for each specific type |
| 10:10.38 | Corgan | (I think) |
| 10:11.00 | nevcairiel | lua> return tonumber(0xF130004AC4001A77, 16) |
| 10:11.00 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 10:11.03 | Kazie | can anyone explain to me what the point of that focus frame stuff is? .. |
| 10:11.08 | nevcairiel | lua> return tonumber("0xF130004AC4001A77", 16) |
| 10:11.08 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 4294967295 |
| 10:11.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:11.17 | Arrowmaster | Corgan: is that specific levels too or can it be multiple levels? |
| 10:11.44 | Corgan | most likely multiple levels |
| 10:11.55 | nevcairiel | i bet the level is somewhere in there too |
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| 10:12.16 | Corgan | the level and the instance id that the mob is in |
| 10:12.19 | Arrowmaster | find me the class in a player guid if it exists |
| 10:12.29 | Corgan | Arrowmaster, it doesn't |
| 10:12.32 | Arrowmaster | boo |
| 10:12.35 | Arrowmaster | it should |
| 10:12.47 | Arrowmaster | i want my combatlog playernames colored by class |
| 10:13.27 | nevcairiel | lua> format("%x", 66) |
| 10:13.27 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 42, |
| 10:13.40 | FinalX | lol, 42. |
| 10:13.50 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: give 'em time, have to figure out difficult concepts like "let's not make the frame skip a pixel downwards every time it's written to" and "maybe hardcoding it all into chatframe2 isn't the best idea after all" |
| 10:13.52 | Xinhuan | lua> format("%x", 4294967295) |
| 10:13.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: ffffffff, |
| 10:13.56 | Xinhuan | lua> format("%x", 4294967295 + 10) |
| 10:13.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 9, |
| 10:14.11 | Maldivia | lua uses strtoul when converting using tonumber, meaning it's capped at the unsigned long size, which on 32-bit platforms is... 32 bit |
| 10:14.14 | nevcairiel | it flows over into 0 again |
| 10:14.22 | Xinhuan | lua simply doesn't recognize hex strings > 32 bits |
| 10:14.33 | Xinhuan | on 32 bit platforms at least |
| 10:14.58 | Arrowmaster | can we make it with some spliting? |
| 10:15.05 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:15.08 | Xinhuan | you can use % |
| 10:15.12 | Xinhuan | to split |
| 10:15.17 | nevcairiel | how did wowhead get the same id as the GUID anyway? dbc parsing i guess? |
| 10:15.28 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: yeah probably |
| 10:15.52 | Xinhuan | lua> format("%x%x", (4294967295 + 10), floor((4294967295 + 10)/(2^32))) |
| 10:15.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 91, |
| 10:15.53 | Maldivia | for mobs... that would be the cache files |
| 10:15.55 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 10:16.15 | Xinhuan | lua> format("%8x%8x", (4294967295 + 10), floor((4294967295 + 10)/(2^32))) |
| 10:16.15 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 9 1, |
| 10:16.28 | Xinhuan | then gsub all the spaces with 0s |
| 10:16.36 | nevcairiel | lua> format("%08x%08x", (4294967295 + 10), floor((4294967295 + 10)/(2^32))) |
| 10:16.36 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0000000900000001, |
| 10:16.41 | nevcairiel | you just have to know printf |
| 10:16.42 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:16.44 | Xinhuan | actually its the other way around |
| 10:16.52 | Xinhuan | the floor part should be the first %x |
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| 10:17.03 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzUOlXFmg5M |
| 10:17.56 | Maldivia | Corgan: that bad? |
| 10:18.01 | Corgan | ? |
| 10:18.21 | Maldivia | the sigh |
| 10:18.27 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44929188626&sid=1#311 |
| 10:18.35 | Arrowmaster | so i dont forget it =D |
| 10:18.46 | Corgan | no :p |
| 10:19.26 | nevcairiel | that made Babble-Boss redundant |
| 10:19.27 | nevcairiel | hooray |
| 10:19.31 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 10:19.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 10:19.38 | Xinhuan | WOW |
| 10:19.50 | Corgan | lol Arrowmaster, nice post |
| 10:19.51 | Antiarc | That's pretty damned awesome. |
| 10:19.59 | nevcairiel | whats with the spell ids you get in the combat log, are they server based too? |
| 10:20.04 | nevcairiel | like, can we use those too? |
| 10:20.07 | Corgan | yes |
| 10:20.10 | Xinhuan | like wow |
| 10:20.16 | Xinhuan | wait |
| 10:20.18 | Xinhuan | boss GUIDs |
| 10:20.21 | Xinhuan | if i'm in black temple |
| 10:20.23 | Poul|Raider | Anyone that could clarify it for me, did pets also have a unique GUID(think they had), but was it only posible to see it if you was there when it was spawned or something? |
| 10:20.29 | Corgan | let me put it this way |
| 10:20.30 | Xinhuan | and you're in black temple (a different instance) at the same time |
| 10:20.37 | Xinhuan | will our 2 najentus boss IDs be identical? |
| 10:20.37 | Corgan | [15:35:25] <+Corgan> 15:34:52 SPELL_DAMAGE, 18064, Warmaul Shaman, 0, Corgan, Frost Shock, 12548 |
| 10:20.38 | Corgan | [15:35:41] <+Corgan> http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18064 |
| 10:20.38 | Corgan | [15:35:46] <+Corgan> http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12548 |
| 10:20.42 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: no |
| 10:20.47 | Antiarc | No, but a sub-portion of the ID will be |
| 10:20.52 | Xinhuan | ooooh |
| 10:20.53 | Corgan | Xinhuan, the IDs will be, but not the GUIDs |
| 10:20.58 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: only a certain part, another part will contain the instance id and such |
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| 10:21.00 | Xinhuan | that's fucking awesome |
| 10:21.18 | Xinhuan | we can just build a prebuilt database of boss IDs |
| 10:21.30 | Xinhuan | i.e simplified babble-boss |
| 10:21.32 | nevcairiel | doesnt really have to |
| 10:21.33 | Poul|Raider | what |
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| 10:21.50 | nevcairiel | BigWigs for example could just compare the ID |
| 10:21.52 | Poul|Raider | did they change the GUID to some id for bosses? |
| 10:21.55 | nevcairiel | no need for the string interim |
| 10:21.59 | Antiar1 | The only problem I can think of - |
| 10:22.08 | Antiar1 | You have to initiate combat to get the ID |
| 10:22.13 | nevcairiel | true |
| 10:22.13 | Antiar1 | You can't get it on mouseover or whatnot |
| 10:22.18 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 10:22.25 | Xinhuan | doesa mob yell |
| 10:22.29 | Xinhuan | give a ID |
| 10:22.32 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:22.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:22.34 | Xinhuan | damn |
| 10:23.02 | nevcairiel | meh problem not solved |
| 10:23.13 | nevcairiel | unless |
| 10:23.19 | Snago | It could be used for an automatic boss translation library though.. It will just not work until you've been in combat with the boss once.. |
| 10:23.49 | Maldivia | or a priest casts mind vision, or something else happens that puts the guid in the log |
| 10:24.02 | Arrowmaster | ^^^^ |
| 10:24.06 | Arrowmaster | hunters mark |
| 10:24.14 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, did they change it, because dint it say on forum that 15:34:52 SPELL_DAMAGE, (GUID that would be unique from mob to mob) Warmaul Shaman, 0, Corgan, Frost Shock, 12548 |
| 10:24.20 | Antiar1 | Interesting workaround, yeah |
| 10:24.34 | Corgan | Poul|Raider, I have a parser addon |
| 10:24.39 | Corgan | that i'm running |
| 10:24.40 | Corgan | on the PTR |
| 10:24.42 | nevcairiel | bigwigs for example could activate on first combat action, that should work equally good |
| 10:24.55 | Poul|Raider | and that was the output |
| 10:24.56 | Poul|Raider | lol |
| 10:24.58 | Corgan | yes |
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| 10:25.23 | Poul|Raider | my log from yesterday used GUID's |
| 10:25.41 | Poul|Raider | SPELL_MISSED,0x0000000000978B3E,Lolas,0x511,0xF1300002C400B72B,Small Crag Boar |
| 10:26.05 | Corgan | lua> GUID = "0xF1300002C400B72B"; print("http://www.wowhead.com/?npc="..tonumber(string.sub(GUID,6,12),16)) |
| 10:26.06 | lua_bot | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=708 |
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| 10:26.12 | Corgan | is dat sum small crag boar? |
| 10:26.13 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: hmm that might end up a little weird though since we could go into combat before getting a combatlog event |
| 10:26.21 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60928 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua: LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: Fix player/pet bitmask comparison. 3 AM for the win. |
| 10:26.28 | Snago | nevcairiel: it wouldn't work equally good for the addon I'm writing that depends on boss modules loading before actually engaging the boss |
| 10:26.45 | nevcairiel | Snago: what do you need to do before engage? |
| 10:26.45 | Elkano | Maldivia, did you get the icon tokens working? |
| 10:26.56 | Poul|Raider | lol Corgan: D |
| 10:27.01 | Maldivia | Elkano: nope, think they didn't implement it in current versio |
| 10:27.01 | Poul|Raider | oki did not think of that |
| 10:27.22 | CIA-10 | 03antiarc * r60929 10/branches/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.lua: LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: MOAR (less) DEBUG CODE |
| 10:27.23 | Elkano | Maldivia: form the post in forums I'd say {star} and such don't need the |T|t around them |
| 10:27.25 | Arrowmaster | i agree, knowing the bosses we can possible engage before combat is better |
| 10:27.36 | Snago | nevcairiel: I'm editing a macro to automaticly have the appropriate bossmacro ready :) |
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| 10:27.49 | Antiar1 | Well, you could have Babble-Boss |
| 10:27.49 | Arrowmaster | |T|t is blocked from chat messages to prevent abuse |
| 10:27.57 | Antiar1 | But use IDs as a fallback |
| 10:28.10 | nevcairiel | at least babble-spell is gone in most cases now |
| 10:28.12 | Maldivia | Elkano: yeah, thats how I read it aswell, but tried both ways |
| 10:28.18 | Maldivia | Elkano: neither workeed |
| 10:28.21 | Antiar1 | Babble-spell being gone is great |
| 10:28.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 10:28.38 | Arrowmaster | we can still get icons though right? |
| 10:28.39 | Poul|Raider | but Corgan, is it a mistake or what, because did they not say mobs would have unique guids? |
| 10:28.40 | nevcairiel | and for Threat-2.0, i dont think you need babble-boss there |
| 10:28.52 | nevcairiel | or do you.. |
| 10:28.52 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 10:28.54 | Corgan | Poul|Raider, the last 6 digits are the unique part of the GUID |
| 10:28.56 | Antiar1 | No, I'll be able to activate on first combat event pretty easily |
| 10:28.56 | Xinhuan | the spellID is a constant right? |
| 10:28.59 | Xinhuan | for every spell |
| 10:29.11 | nevcairiel | contains rank |
| 10:29.11 | Antiar1 | There's no good reason to run the mod before we're in combat with the boss |
| 10:29.12 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 10:29.23 | Antiar1 | You have one ID per spell per rank |
| 10:29.24 | Corgan | I don't think there are going to be more than 16777215 of any given mob at any time |
| 10:29.28 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, that means we can replace our "profession detection" by checking for those profession spell IDs? |
| 10:29.35 | Xinhuan | rather than those strings |
| 10:29.38 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 10:29.39 | Antiar1 | So if you want to detect Mortal Strike, you need all the IDs of all the ranks of MS |
| 10:29.40 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 10:29.47 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs shouldnt do the same as threat imho because we need to know when going into combat for enrage times not on first combat event |
| 10:29.48 | Xinhuan | can someone on PTR check? |
| 10:29.56 | nevcairiel | i dont have a char with any profession on ptr |
| 10:30.12 | Antiar1 | Arrowmaster: I can't think of many fights where you have a lot of downtime before the fight, except...Kael? |
| 10:30.19 | Antiar1 | And Kael doesn't enrage |
| 10:30.21 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: yes, professions are just spells aswell |
| 10:30.28 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, kael has a soft enrage |
| 10:30.35 | Poul|Raider | ahh Corgan, thx. did not see the sub in the first lua you pasted |
| 10:30.35 | Antiar1 | Heh, what is it? |
| 10:30.37 | Xinhuan | the legendary weapons despawn after 15 minutes of looting them |
| 10:30.39 | Kalroth | Weapons |
| 10:30.40 | Arrowmaster | and its not just enrage but any timers that start with combat |
| 10:30.43 | Antiar1 | Ah, that's true |
| 10:30.46 | Xinhuan | and your tank will be vulnerable without the legendary buffs |
| 10:30.54 | Kalroth | We've experienced that once :p |
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| 10:31.01 | Grum | Xinhuan: they despawn from your inventory? :D |
| 10:31.02 | Arrowmaster | so did we |
| 10:31.03 | Xinhuan | therefore bigwigs should technically have a 15 min timer from the end of p2 |
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| 10:31.05 | Xinhuan | yes grum |
| 10:31.06 | Kalroth | Yes Grum |
| 10:31.10 | Xinhuan | you end up wearing nothing |
| 10:31.15 | Xinhuan | they just poof |
| 10:31.20 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: Well even less |
| 10:31.22 | Arrowmaster | 15min timer from first weapon death |
| 10:31.24 | Xinhuan | and your tank will be like |
| 10:31.26 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 10:31.29 | Snago | lol, that must be confusing :) |
| 10:31.31 | Xinhuan | where's my sheild |
| 10:31.33 | Xinhuan | and get crushed |
| 10:31.54 | Xinhuan | then a rogue |
| 10:31.57 | Xinhuan | will evasion tank |
| 10:32.00 | Xinhuan | and u hope u zerg |
| 10:32.01 | Kalroth | We had an attempt where 10 people died, around 20% all the weapons started vanishing |
| 10:32.19 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.21 | Orionshock | oy |
| 10:32.24 | Kalroth | At 15% the MTs shield was gone, we wiped shortly after. |
| 10:32.33 | CIA-10 | 03celellach * r60930 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:32.33 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:32.33 | CIA-10 | - Re-ordered the pre60 page |
| 10:32.33 | CIA-10 | - Fixed some bugs |
| 10:32.42 | Grum | why does a MT need the shield? |
| 10:32.48 | Grum | or did he not notice his hsield was gone? :P |
| 10:32.57 | Xinhuan | it poofs |
| 10:32.57 | Kalroth | Grum: Because of the shield buff. |
| 10:33.00 | Xinhuan | cos he uses the legdnary one |
| 10:33.04 | Xinhuan | for shield buff |
| 10:33.04 | Grum | 15% == phase5 |
| 10:33.07 | Grum | why do you need a shield? |
| 10:33.14 | ramoz | huh? |
| 10:33.17 | Kalroth | Well he was crushed :) |
| 10:33.20 | Grum | ah :p |
| 10:33.28 | Grum | so not because of the 'shieldbuff' ;D |
| 10:33.37 | CIA-10 | 03celellach * r60931 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 10:33.37 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 10:33.37 | CIA-10 | - small update |
| 10:33.45 | [Ammo] | we had that on twin emps one day |
| 10:33.49 | Kalroth | We didn't have any maces at that time, so one un-interrupted fireball did 18k damage :) |
| 10:33.54 | [Ammo] | MT got hit like a truck and just dropped down |
| 10:34.02 | [Ammo] | we were like 'wtf happened' |
| 10:34.08 | [Ammo] | and some smartass reply: I forgot my shieldbuff |
| 10:34.17 | [Ammo] | aka he was wielding a big twohander |
| 10:34.17 | Kalroth | Huh? :) |
| 10:34.19 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:34.32 | Corgan | lol |
| 10:34.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:34.35 | Daemona | Orionshock you did tell the hunter expertise doesnt do jack for him? |
| 10:34.53 | Orionshock | ... well, upgrading from the hunter d3 set |
| 10:35.00 | Orionshock | ... so it was a good upgrade ... i think |
| 10:35.04 | Corgan | ... |
| 10:35.05 | Kalroth | I've actually done that by mistake, was tanking Patchwerk. Hit my macro to switch to dual wield. I swear you can still see orc parts on the walls there. |
| 10:35.19 | Grum | ^^ |
| 10:36.43 | Kalroth | <3 the PTR screenshots of the level 1 blood elves trying to get to the island. |
| 10:36.44 | Kalroth | http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot021108095347mm2.jpg |
| 10:37.26 | ramoz | wowdb has a channel at wnet? |
| 10:37.44 | Elkano | curseweb maybe |
| 10:38.00 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, Xinhuan- heres a xml page to query for the boss ids. might be more usefull then wowhead |
| 10:38.00 | Poul|Raider | http://eu.wowarmory.com/data/dungeons.xml |
| 10:38.38 | Poul|Raider | no idea when ptr stuff gets on it, properly first when it get released |
| 10:38.39 | Xinhuan | there's going to be IDs for everything soon heeh |
| 10:39.04 | [Ammo] | boss id's are not going to be persistent or same for everyone right? |
| 10:39.09 | Corgan | They are. |
| 10:39.13 | Corgan | GUIDs aren't |
| 10:39.18 | Poul|Raider | well im glad i just jumped in here, was working on a parser and made things alot easyer just to query the xml from armory and match up the guids with those |
| 10:39.22 | Corgan | npc ids are constant through the whole game |
| 10:39.31 | [Ammo] | can you identify them through it |
| 10:39.37 | [Ammo] | when mouseovering or targewtting? |
| 10:39.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:39.46 | Grum | Corgan: as are player GUIDs |
| 10:39.47 | Arrowmaster | cant get a guid then |
| 10:39.59 | [Ammo] | then the boss id's shrug |
| 10:40.02 | [Ammo] | GUID won't be constant |
| 10:40.08 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44929188626&sid=1#311 |
| 10:40.09 | [Ammo] | player GUIDs will but the others won't |
| 10:40.09 | Corgan | boss ids are the same as item ids |
| 10:40.17 | Corgan | same with spell ids |
| 10:40.48 | Corgan | GUIDs != ids |
| 10:40.53 | Poul|Raider | http://eu.wowarmory.com/data/dungeonStrings.xml even better for ids only |
| 10:41.01 | Corgan | you can get the id from the GUID however |
| 10:41.04 | [Ammo] | ah ok so you can get the id from the guid |
| 10:41.05 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 10:41.16 | Elkano | Kalroth, ok, that shot is nice ^^ |
| 10:41.18 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:41.29 | Corgan | [Ammo], |
| 10:41.30 | Corgan | lua> GUID = "0xF1300002C400B72B"; print("http://www.wowhead.com/?npc="..tonumber(string.sub(GUID,6,12),16)) |
| 10:41.30 | lua_bot | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=708 |
| 10:41.32 | [Ammo] | can you get the GUID from a target? |
| 10:41.34 | Xinhuan | because the wowhead database is really just a reverse engineered copy of the cache wdb files |
| 10:41.37 | Xinhuan | no ammo |
| 10:41.39 | Elkano | btw: does anyone know how EU shall be able to connect to US PTR as it was mentioned by blue? |
| 10:41.40 | Xinhuan | not until you engage combat |
| 10:41.41 | [Ammo] | only from combat events |
| 10:41.42 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 10:41.44 | Kalroth | Yeah, GUIDs are a combination of the boss id (16bit?) and a server unique identifier. |
| 10:41.46 | Maldivia | MOB guids is [xxxx][yyyyyy][zzzzzz] where y is mob-specific, x is flags, and z is the difference from mobs of same type |
| 10:41.57 | Corgan | ^ |
| 10:42.01 | [Ammo] | just trying to find intelligent bigwigs stuff |
| 10:42.09 | [Ammo] | so we can enable upon first event etc |
| 10:42.20 | Antiarc | Someone pointed out Mind Vision and Hunter's Mark |
| 10:42.23 | Antiarc | But those aren't idiotproof. |
| 10:42.27 | [Ammo] | well |
| 10:42.32 | Xinhuan | not every boss can be |
| 10:42.32 | [Ammo] | raidicons? |
| 10:42.35 | Xinhuan | activated before hand |
| 10:42.40 | Xinhuan | like ROS |
| 10:42.42 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 10:42.42 | Arrowmaster | not raid icons i dont think |
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| 10:42.52 | Corgan | Raid icons aren't a combat event |
| 10:42.53 | Antiarc | Raid Icons appear in the flags, but setting them doesn't trigger a GUID-getter |
| 10:42.55 | [Ammo] | just trying ways to activate and pewpew |
| 10:42.59 | Arrowmaster | but you can use it to make a babble-boss with a saved var that can learn |
| 10:43.02 | Kalroth | Give us the GUID on target selection and it'll be almost foolproof. |
| 10:43.03 | Xinhuan | but hunter's mark might work |
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| 10:43.09 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 10:43.16 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I want less translations |
| 10:43.20 | [Ammo] | in BigWigs |
| 10:43.30 | Arrowmaster | babble-spell is gone |
| 10:43.31 | Antiarc | Quick Q: |
| 10:43.38 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: bigwigs never used that |
| 10:43.47 | [Ammo] | but in turn can use id's now for those translations as well |
| 10:43.51 | Antiarc | Anyone know if there's a way to bump the revision # in a single file every time any file in a directory is committed, in SVN? |
| 10:43.53 | Antiarc | I suspect not |
| 10:43.56 | Antiarc | But figure I'll ask! |
| 10:44.01 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, we just need a table of spells -> ID and that's already available on wowhead |
| 10:44.05 | Xinhuan | easy |
| 10:44.25 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: some cast detections used translations, thats gone :) |
| 10:44.30 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:44.33 | [Ammo] | that's what I meant |
| 10:44.47 | Maldivia | spellId is how I keep my professions link addon working :) they are very easy to get |
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| 10:45.59 | Corgan | [00:41:32] <Maldivia> MOB guids is [xxxx][yyyyyy][zzzzzz] where y is mob-specific, x is flags, and z is the difference from mobs of same type |
| 10:46.05 | Corgan | I'm not sure xxxx is the flags |
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| 10:46.13 | Corgan | since they provide flags as another argument |
| 10:46.19 | Xinhuan | that could just be the instance ID |
| 10:46.25 | Corgan | It's constant through instances |
| 10:46.39 | Maldivia | Corgan: well, all hostile mobs I've been in combat with have startec with 0xF130 |
| 10:46.39 | Corgan | and instance resets |
| 10:46.42 | Poul|Raider | is it posible to distingt the guid from pull to pull, aka if wiped? flag changed or something? |
| 10:46.47 | Poul|Raider | or only if it despawn |
| 10:47.00 | Grum | only if despawn |
| 10:47.13 | Corgan | A monster has a single GUID from spawn until death (or despawn). When it respawns it gets a new GUID. |
| 10:47.13 | Corgan | Pets get a new GUID each time they are summoned. |
| 10:47.13 | Corgan | Monster and pet GUIDs can be recycled after server (or instance) restart. |
| 10:47.13 | Corgan | Players keep their GUID forever, and are unique even in cross-server battlegrounds. |
| 10:47.26 | Poul|Raider | any good advises then on how to detect if a wipe happend? making a parser for the txt combatlog |
| 10:47.45 | Xinhuan | simple, detect boss health 100% :) |
| 10:47.47 | nevcairiel | everyone died? ::P |
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| 10:47.54 | Maldivia | mob health goes to 100% and uniteffectingcombat = false |
| 10:48.02 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, how will you detect taht in the txt log file? |
| 10:48.08 | Xinhuan | you don't |
| 10:48.10 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: you cant |
| 10:48.12 | Poul|Raider | :) |
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| 10:48.24 | Maldivia | from txt log files, check for resurrection spells :) |
| 10:48.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:48.34 | [Ammo] | so much work to do on 2.4 BigWigs compat |
| 10:48.40 | Grum | detecting a wipe is usually as easy as: 'no action for more than 30 seconds' |
| 10:48.40 | Poul|Raider | thats my point, also said it was for the txt file :) but ye sounds like an idea Maldivia |
| 10:48.44 | Corgan | Check for a long pause between |
| 10:48.45 | Corgan | yeah |
| 10:48.46 | [Ammo] | and my home PC crashes when I click the 'Public Test' button from the launcher |
| 10:48.48 | Corgan | what Grum said |
| 10:48.55 | Poul|Raider | and Grum, also a good idea |
| 10:48.55 | [Ammo] | or rather WoW segfaults |
| 10:48.59 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: my GF has that too, dont ask me why o.O |
| 10:49.05 | Maldivia | Ammo: mac os ? |
| 10:49.09 | [Ammo] | ofcourse not |
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| 10:49.22 | [Ammo] | I don't like macs |
| 10:49.36 | Orionshock | wtb hide button on "Your Dead Release Noob" popup |
| 10:49.48 | nevcairiel | any crash report? or straight segfault? |
| 10:49.55 | [Ammo] | crash report |
| 10:50.05 | nevcairiel | whats the error? |
| 10:50.05 | Xinhuan | can't you launch it directly |
| 10:50.05 | [Ammo] | on creatureString.dbc |
| 10:50.08 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 10:50.18 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: same happens when launching it directly |
| 10:50.27 | Maldivia | hmm, tried deleting wowtest and patching again? |
| 10:50.28 | Xinhuan | i guess you have to reinstall |
| 10:50.34 | [Ammo] | I deleted and redownlaoded |
| 10:50.36 | [Ammo] | same deal |
| 10:50.41 | [Ammo] | it just refuses |
| 10:50.42 | nevcairiel | repair tool? |
| 10:50.48 | [Ammo] | doesn't work |
| 10:50.51 | [Ammo] | or rather |
| 10:50.51 | Xinhuan | what language |
| 10:50.55 | [Ammo] | enGB |
| 10:51.04 | [Ammo] | already clicked the 'send to blizz' button multiple times :) |
| 10:51.08 | Grum | just live right? 2.3.3 ? |
| 10:51.08 | Xinhuan | oh well |
| 10:51.19 | [Ammo] | no the test client |
| 10:51.21 | [Ammo] | live works fine |
| 10:51.25 | CIA-10 | 03ananhaid * r60932 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 10:51.25 | CIA-10 | Threat-1.0: |
| 10:51.25 | CIA-10 | - BlackTemple/Souls zhCN update. |
| 10:51.28 | Grum | aah k they'll prolly fix it |
| 10:51.28 | Xinhuan | blackrock down :( |
| 10:51.34 | Xinhuan | cp update crashed it again |
| 10:51.38 | [Ammo] | my laptop has a working test so that should work |
| 10:51.45 | [Ammo] | but I hate laptops almost as much as I hate macs |
| 10:51.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:52.01 | Poul|Raider | Grum, only problem i can think of with it would be if someone ress fast etc then it fails |
| 10:52.02 | nevcairiel | if you need some debugging output, just say so |
| 10:52.03 | [Ammo] | necessary evil for visiting customers |
| 10:52.07 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:52.12 | [Ammo] | I'll work on the laptop dealy |
| 10:52.28 | [Ammo] | wanted to do some rewriting of witchhunt to get a feel for the new combat events |
| 10:52.30 | [Ammo] | and then go on to bigwigs |
| 10:52.46 | Corgan | the new combat events are awesome :D |
| 10:52.56 | [Ammo] | yeah the stuff I've seen looks great |
| 10:53.09 | [Ammo] | just being unable to test made me go on a ganking spree :) |
| 10:53.12 | Corgan | :( |
| 10:53.20 | Grum | Poul|Raider: you never have a proper try without rebuffing :) |
| 10:53.20 | CIA-10 | 03celellach * r60933 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:53.20 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:53.20 | CIA-10 | - Sunwell update |
| 10:53.27 | Grum | and that might only be the case for Mother Shahraz |
| 10:53.35 | Grum | if you reset her after 1 people dies |
| 10:53.40 | Grum | quickly rez, buff, and pull |
| 10:53.42 | Guardix | is it possible to make even more lightweighten scrolling combat texts? |
| 10:53.55 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 10:53.57 | [Ammo] | I imagine MSBT will rock even harder |
| 10:54.01 | Poul|Raider | naa Grum, i properly just have to set up multiply checks |
| 10:54.06 | Arrowmaster | those didnt even really use the combatlog much |
| 10:54.14 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: they do |
| 10:54.25 | nevcairiel | the blizzard FCT events suck |
| 10:54.29 | nevcairiel | they used the log |
| 10:54.29 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 10:54.48 | Grum | Poul|Raider: what do you need it for btw? |
| 10:54.48 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 10:55.10 | nevcairiel | i wanted to rewrite HotCandy, but i need a CandyBar replacement =P |
| 10:55.17 | Poul|Raider | Grum, writing a parser for the txt log(alittle like wws) but for my guild |
| 10:55.25 | Grum | why not use wws? :p |
| 10:55.25 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: meh that one is still on my todo |
| 10:55.34 | Arrowmaster | well atleast now i can get a 'show damage on target unitframe but only my own damage and not damage on mobs with the same name' |
| 10:55.40 | Wobin | clearly |
| 10:55.40 | nevcairiel | i'll probably just convert it for 2.4 |
| 10:55.42 | Wobin | blackrock is down |
| 10:55.45 | Poul|Raider | Grum, because we want some more detailed info :) |
| 10:55.49 | Wobin | according the the 50gnomes on AD |
| 10:55.52 | nevcairiel | and go Ace3 once thats done |
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| 10:56.12 | Grum | Poul|Raider: make it public ;D |
| 10:56.14 | [Ammo] | I could do the quick deal of converting candybar to not use aceli |
| 10:56.20 | Elkano | wws? |
| 10:56.24 | [Ammo] | but I wanted to do a bit more |
| 10:56.31 | Kalman| | Are there issues with CandyBar in 2.4? |
| 10:56.36 | [Ammo] | no |
| 10:56.41 | Kalman| | OK, hadn't noticed any. |
| 10:56.47 | [Ammo] | or there shouldn't |
| 10:56.55 | [Ammo] | but I want to do a bit of rewriting on it |
| 10:57.07 | Elkano | btw: anyone tried using LSM-3.0, yet? |
| 10:57.11 | Poul|Raider | Grum, want to be able to inspect a fight , get dps curves for a player and such. Buff uptimes and all kind of stuff that wws dont have. Public will be something when its solid and if i got resources for servers and such |
| 10:57.11 | Corgan | heh, they have a SPELL_AURA_STOLEN combat event |
| 10:57.27 | Grum | Poul|Raider: what language? |
| 10:57.33 | Poul|Raider | c#.net |
| 10:57.47 | Grum | well at least thats not portable =D |
| 10:57.50 | Poul|Raider | naa |
| 10:58.35 | Poul|Raider | im just writing my parser so i can use it for a windows app/web app for now. Could easy write a parser that could be used on linux |
| 10:58.50 | Poul|Raider | the detailed info will be done by the server on the fly etc anyway |
| 10:59.39 | Corgan | yay, I found what the rest of the arguments are |
| 11:00.14 | Arrowmaster | post more info on forum thread so i can watch anime |
| 11:00.15 | Grum | share! ; |
| 11:00.46 | Corgan | ok so |
| 11:00.48 | Corgan | SWING_DAMAGE, 0x0000000000427042, Foozle, 0x511, 0xF13000002800192A, Kobold, 0x10a48, 157, 1, nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil |
| 11:00.58 | Corgan | er |
| 11:01.00 | Corgan | event, sGUID, sName, sFlags, dGUID, dName, dFlags, amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing |
| 11:01.15 | Poul|Raider | nice |
| 11:01.15 | nevcairiel | yeah thats in the combatlog lua code |
| 11:01.26 | Corgan | ^^ |
| 11:01.35 | nevcairiel | that wasnt that hard to figure out :P |
| 11:01.38 | nevcairiel | its different for every event |
| 11:01.44 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Did you figure out the bagTypes? |
| 11:01.48 | Corgan | I never said I figured it out, just said I found it :D |
| 11:01.50 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should just document those |
| 11:01.58 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:02.01 | Corgan | I find it odd that they have uh |
| 11:02.06 | Arrowmaster | we need a wowwiki page for them |
| 11:02.07 | Corgan | crushing/blocked and all that |
| 11:02.08 | [Ammo] | is there a page on wowwiki or wowace wiki yet? |
| 11:02.09 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 11:02.16 | Corgan | for the spell events |
| 11:02.16 | nevcairiel | someone start a page |
| 11:02.17 | Corgan | :/ |
| 11:02.21 | nevcairiel | and i'll fill in more |
| 11:02.29 | Corgan | or, nevermind |
| 11:03.03 | Arrowmaster | and when documenting lets refer to it as type not event |
| 11:03.36 | Corgan | ^ |
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| 11:03.55 | nevcairiel | all types share: type, sGUID, sName, sFlags, dGUID, dName, dFlags |
| 11:04.03 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 11:04.56 | Wobin | Anyone know a good spam addon |
| 11:05.00 | Wobin | or an antiblackrock one? |
| 11:05.03 | Wobin | cause ffs |
| 11:05.10 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:05.38 | Wobin | Times like these I want level limits on being able to chat |
| 11:05.50 | Wobin | and IQ tests to create characters |
| 11:06.04 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 11:06.18 | Grum | use the ignore button :D |
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| 11:06.49 | Corgan | hrmm |
| 11:06.57 | Corgan | some of these events swap the source and the destination |
| 11:07.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 11:07.14 | Arrowmaster | its in the combatlog.lua |
| 11:07.24 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Did you figure out the bagTypes? |
| 11:07.55 | Arrowmaster | we need a wowwiki page on the bagTypes too! |
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| 11:09.01 | sylvanaar_work | good morning |
| 11:10.06 | Zariel | Hi |
| 11:10.21 | Xinhuan | don't think so yet |
| 11:10.31 | Xinhuan | i posted on elsia's thread for it to be added to wowwiki ;p |
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| 11:14.46 | Arrowmaster | which thread? |
| 11:15.43 | Lukian | <Grum> use the ignore button :D <- What and add 200 level 1's on the PTR to my ignore list? |
| 11:16.04 | Grum | yeah :D |
| 11:16.08 | Lukian | :( |
| 11:16.45 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/82017 |
| 11:16.52 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, i believe tekkub or someone stickied it already |
| 11:16.53 | nevcairiel | only taken from combatlog code |
| 11:16.56 | Xinhuan | on wowace forums |
| 11:17.04 | nevcairiel | some fields might not apply |
| 11:17.04 | Xinhuan | i think it was funkeh that did it |
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| 11:17.58 | nevcairiel | someone wiki that, i suck at wikis =P |
| 11:19.16 | Xinhuan | i would, but i'm raiding atm |
| 11:19.17 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 11:19.19 | Xinhuan | lackrock |
| 11:19.24 | Xinhuan | blackrock is down last 30 min lol! |
| 11:19.51 | Grum | lol |
| 11:20.01 | Xinhuan | someone on my vent just said there is 110 <Exiles of Blackrock> gnomes at Hogger on argent dawn ~_~ |
| 11:20.12 | Lukian | We just had our usual monday night Jubei'Thos crash (~1hr after honour update, continent crashes this time) |
| 11:20.37 | Xinhuan | better not let wobin see that |
| 11:20.39 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 11:21.26 | Xinhuan | tooltip:OnTooltipSetQuest() |
| 11:21.40 | Xinhuan | is this going to be the new fancy api for quest-helping power-lvling addons? |
| 11:21.47 | nevcairiel | yeah we have quest ids now |
| 11:22.13 | nevcairiel | 2.4 is the ID patch =P |
| 11:23.48 | Corgan | :p |
| 11:25.12 | clad|away | don't pull the tooltip for quest 11 |
| 11:25.15 | clad|away | it'll disconnect you |
| 11:25.17 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:25.32 | nevcairiel | whats quest 11 ? =P |
| 11:25.40 | Xinhuan | clearly, not a valid quest |
| 11:26.04 | clad|away | :P |
| 11:26.05 | clad|away | well |
| 11:26.05 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11 ????? |
| 11:26.06 | Pkekyo| | bwaahahahahaha because some cook on a platform in the north sea yesterday had a dream about a bomb, the company that own the platform lost four million quid :p |
| 11:26.09 | clad|away | there are other "invalid quests" |
| 11:26.22 | Wobin | wtb horde hunter with snake trap |
| 11:26.25 | Wobin | to kill gnomes |
| 11:26.34 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:26.40 | Xinhuan | if you make a new char |
| 11:26.43 | Xinhuan | then pick up that quest |
| 11:26.46 | Xinhuan | does that make it valid? |
| 11:26.57 | clad|away | Xinhuan: dunno, but there's no way to test whether loading the tooltip will disconnect you |
| 11:27.06 | nevcairiel | except trying |
| 11:27.07 | clad|away | :P |
| 11:27.09 | clad|away | i suspect to avoid farming |
| 11:27.12 | Xinhuan | maybe its like itemlinks, attempting to datamine will d/c |
| 11:27.17 | clad|away | not that anyone needs to farm them |
| 11:27.27 | clad|away | i have a full quest database right here :P |
| 11:27.39 | nevcairiel | are the wowhead ids the same as ingame ids too? |
| 11:27.43 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:27.46 | Arrowmaster | nice |
| 11:27.59 | Xinhuan | the wdb cache folder is easy to reverse engineer |
| 11:28.02 | Xinhuan | ppl did that years ago |
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| 11:28.17 | nevcairiel | just for the fun of it, they should've applied a rotating algorithm on the ids |
| 11:28.17 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 11:28.37 | Xinhuan | if they applied ROT13, i bet nobody would realize it |
| 11:28.52 | nevcairiel | people figure stuff like that out easily |
| 11:29.02 | Wobin | not if they rot13'd twice |
| 11:29.04 | nevcairiel | once you see a pattern |
| 11:29.08 | Wobin | That trick always works |
| 11:29.13 | nevcairiel | back and forth wobin eh? :P |
| 11:29.26 | Xinhuan | sorry wobin, but there's about 150 gnomes from blackrock assaulting hogger on your server |
| 11:29.26 | Wobin | People don't realise it's actually encrypted =P |
| 11:29.33 | Wobin | Oh I logged out =P |
| 11:29.41 | Wobin | I got that nice trinket on a heroic bf |
| 11:29.43 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 11:29.44 | Wobin | for the daily |
| 11:29.52 | nevcairiel | how do gnomes get to hogger tho? poor tram :/ |
| 11:30.01 | Xinhuan | some nice mage on AD |
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| 11:30.05 | Xinhuan | teleported every gnome |
| 11:30.06 | Grum | poor rats |
| 11:30.06 | Xinhuan | to shatt |
| 11:30.09 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 11:30.13 | Grum | lol |
| 11:30.13 | Xinhuan | so they just used the port in shatt |
| 11:30.19 | Wobin | A whole lot more work than I'd ever exert on behalf of my server being down =P |
| 11:30.20 | nevcairiel | 40 man raid of gnomes with one mage and portal :P |
| 11:30.20 | Grum | that is seriously cool ;D |
| 11:30.34 | Xinhuan | from what i'm hearing on vent |
| 11:30.38 | Xinhuan | its like WTF LOLOLOLOL |
| 11:30.40 | Xinhuan | ZERG HOGGER |
| 11:30.41 | Grum | Xinhuan: how did that get organized? ;D |
| 11:30.45 | Xinhuan | mt down! |
| 11:30.51 | Grum | lol ;D |
| 11:30.53 | Xinhuan | dunno, it happens like every now and then when BR dies |
| 11:30.53 | nevcairiel | they probably didnt get organized Grum :P |
| 11:30.58 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:31.03 | Wobin | BR being down is a once a day thing =P |
| 11:31.10 | Xinhuan | you're forgetting that we have a 700+ sized guild on Argent Dawn |
| 11:31.14 | Wobin | on the one hand, they come to AD and grief us |
| 11:31.16 | Xinhuan | full of lvl 1s |
| 11:31.19 | Wobin | on the other, haha |
| 11:31.22 | Wobin | sux2bu |
| 11:31.22 | Xinhuan | <Exiles of Blackrock> |
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| 11:31.28 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 11:31.41 | Xinhuan | so its fairly easy to go /g everyone to hogger now!!!! |
| 11:31.52 | Grum | lol |
| 11:32.03 | Wobin | although the majority of them just spam the channels |
| 11:32.08 | Wobin | with hundreds of lines of text |
| 11:32.20 | Xinhuan | and make cute trains and lines |
| 11:32.21 | Wobin | like "omgbrdown" |
| 11:32.25 | Wobin | like noone noticed =P |
| 11:32.33 | Wobin | just in case you missed the bulliten |
| 11:32.34 | nevcairiel | i never join general or trade channels anymore |
| 11:32.36 | Xinhuan | i dunno what blizz is doing |
| 11:32.37 | nevcairiel | useless spam :P |
| 11:32.40 | Xinhuan | but |
| 11:32.47 | Xinhuan | i dont know why the server dies for 2 hours every night |
| 11:32.51 | Xinhuan | during cp update |
| 11:32.56 | Wobin | cp? |
| 11:32.59 | Xinhuan | honor update |
| 11:33.02 | Xinhuan | cp is the old name for it |
| 11:33.05 | Wobin | oh |
| 11:33.07 | Wobin | what's the c? |
| 11:33.13 | Xinhuan | Contribution Points |
| 11:33.23 | Wobin | well, come 2.4 that will at least not happen |
| 11:33.35 | Xinhuan | "Error retrieving character list" |
| 11:33.36 | Wobin | and BR will go down for some other reason =P |
| 11:33.39 | Xinhuan | everytime i connect to BR |
| 11:33.41 | Wobin | I have faith |
| 11:33.42 | Xinhuan | for the last 1 hour |
| 11:33.52 | Wobin | They probably have one corrupt record |
| 11:33.58 | Wobin | that screws the whole db up |
| 11:34.03 | Wobin | every time he does any pvp |
| 11:34.10 | Xinhuan | can't wait for 2.4 GUIDs being non-unique lol! |
| 11:34.17 | Xinhuan | or corrupted GUIDs |
| 11:34.27 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 11:34.46 | Xinhuan | [2/11 19:34:33] <+dogmatix> ROFL @ how hard AD is getting hit :| |
| 11:35.12 | nevcairiel | why should GUIDs ever get non-unique or even corrupted? |
| 11:35.28 | nevcairiel | there is like a fuckton of numbers available |
| 11:35.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> 2^64 |
| 11:35.56 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 11:36.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah a fuckton |
| 11:36.09 | Xinhuan | because blizz is a tool, and our server dies every night at 5.30 am |
| 11:36.10 | Kalroth | GUIDs are server specific, they wont ever be used twice within the same server uptime session. |
| 11:36.14 | Xinhuan | for 1.5 hours |
| 11:36.16 | Lukian | <Xinhuan> i dont know why the server dies for 2 hours every night <- One can assume the code has some severe memory leaks ^_^ |
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| 11:36.54 | Xinhuan | right now, i'm like "fuck yeah, we have to reclear gorefiend trash when BR comes back on" |
| 11:36.59 | Orionshock | http://wowwebstats.com/yjicgg1nhum6g |
| 11:37.01 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 11:37.01 | Wobin | Is that a metric fuckton? |
| 11:37.07 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:37.11 | Wobin | good |
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| 11:37.33 | Wobin | wow, rogueless |
| 11:37.34 | Xinhuan | the problem is that BR is an aussie server, about 80% of the guilsd are aussie |
| 11:37.45 | Xinhuan | so if it dies right now, that's about 20+ raiding guilds affected in prime time |
| 11:37.46 | Wobin | and downtime is in primetime |
| 11:38.03 | Orionshock | ya, rogueless, and the rouge shoulders dropped |
| 11:38.03 | Wobin | our guild is considering moving to one of the oceanic servers |
| 11:38.06 | nevcairiel | wonder why they didnt re-schedule that stuff for the oceanic servers |
| 11:38.06 | Xinhuan | so about half of these raiding guilds... raid AD instead, kinda lame, but what to do, what to do |
| 11:38.11 | Wobin | cause we can't get enough people for raiding |
| 11:38.15 | Xinhuan | because Blackrock isn't an oceanic server |
| 11:38.22 | nevcairiel | your fault then =P |
| 11:38.23 | sb | [Ammo]: no BigWigs(Ace)3 soon? :p |
| 11:38.28 | [Ammo] | sb: indeed |
| 11:38.36 | [Ammo] | sb: first fix it so it all works for 2.4 again |
| 11:38.37 | Wobin | well to be brutally honest, BR has had problems for how long now? |
| 11:38.38 | Xinhuan | aussies, arbitrarily assigned it oceanic status when wow was launched on Nov 23 2004 |
| 11:38.43 | Wobin | and you've not left? |
| 11:38.43 | [Ammo] | sb: then a complete rewrite |
| 11:38.50 | sb | [Ammo]: ah okay - thought it would be a good point to start that rewrite |
| 11:38.55 | Wobin | Well we didn't have Oceanic |
| 11:38.56 | Xinhuan | wobin, the server problems only returned about 1-2 weeks ago |
| 11:38.57 | Wobin | at that point |
| 11:38.59 | sb | since PTR will be up some time... |
| 11:39.03 | Xinhuan | it was fine the whole of last year |
| 11:39.11 | Xinhuan | so you saw minimal invasions |
| 11:39.14 | Wobin | hehe |
| 11:39.18 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: what datacenter is BR out of? |
| 11:39.29 | Xinhuan | it is on BG9, Bloodlust, in califonia |
| 11:39.35 | Orionshock | LOLz |
| 11:39.46 | Wobin | Orionshock: Isn't that typical? =P |
| 11:39.48 | Xinhuan | problem is, its only this one server dying |
| 11:39.53 | Xinhuan | the rest of the BG is up |
| 11:39.58 | Orionshock | so the real question is, is BR going down server stability or ISP issues? |
| 11:40.05 | Wobin | I suggest server |
| 11:40.15 | Wobin | since the honour roll appears to knock it off each time |
| 11:40.19 | Xinhuan | its a server issue, and its related to honor update |
| 11:40.49 | Xinhuan | big thread on customer service forum |
| 11:40.50 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 11:40.53 | Xinhuan | i'll link |
| 11:41.16 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=11112 |
| 11:41.20 | Xinhuan | check the top few posts |
| 11:41.38 | Xinhuan | thread titles |
| 11:41.38 | Wobin | Is it lucid? |
| 11:41.38 | Wobin | Or does it have brspam? |
| 11:41.38 | Xinhuan | nah i only linked the forum itself |
| 11:41.38 | Xinhuan | take a peek |
| 11:41.56 | Xinhuan | (Locked) Blackrock Spam on Argent Dawn... Again. [Page: 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5] |
| 11:42.08 | Xinhuan | and about 5-10 other threads |
| 11:42.43 | Grum | Xinhuan: that is sad :( |
| 11:42.58 | Xinhuan | btw, i can be more or less assured that everyone that spammed AD tonight will most likely get a 3-day ban |
| 11:43.08 | Xinhuan | the last major one that happened almost everyone got a 3-hour one |
| 11:43.21 | Thorgard | So, are there any new spiffy mods that may see the light of day due to changes in 2.4? |
| 11:43.38 | Xinhuan | the GMs scoped out the entire /2 and /1 channels of the entire duration |
| 11:43.51 | Xinhuan | and anyone that so much as said anything more than 2 lines got slapped with a ban |
| 11:45.33 | Xinhuan | the 5-page locked thread has a lot of blue responses in it |
| 11:45.37 | Xinhuan | its quite an interesting read |
| 11:46.22 | Xinhuan | i'm quite sure after tonight, everyone's going to get a 3-day ban heh |
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| 11:47.31 | Wobin | actually |
| 11:47.33 | Xinhuan | " It was funny though, a few human human characters kept trying to hit me up, just cos i was a nekkid female gnome with pink hair, i feel so dirty. One tried to trade 100g to me, but i broke his heart by telling him that that wasn't probably the best of ideas since the character may be closed... " |
| 11:47.34 | Wobin | What would be good |
| 11:47.34 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 11:47.36 | Xinhuan | wtf |
| 11:47.41 | Wobin | Is a 3 days played ban |
| 11:48.00 | Wobin | In that you log in, but are stuck in one place unable to move or talk |
| 11:48.04 | Wobin | for three days played |
| 11:48.20 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 11:48.22 | Wobin | on all characters |
| 11:48.24 | nevcairiel | thats so evi |
| 11:48.25 | nevcairiel | l |
| 11:48.39 | Wobin | and have it account issued |
| 11:48.43 | Xinhuan | this thread is funny heh |
| 11:48.47 | Wobin | so they can share that three days across toons |
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| 11:49.17 | nevcairiel | Wobin: whats the point to share it with toons, not like you can do shit on them =P |
| 11:49.39 | Xinhuan | it'll be funnier to log on argent dawn and sit out the 3 days on a lvl 1 gnome ;p |
| 11:49.56 | Wobin | nevcairiel: It'll make them feel more useful |
| 11:50.07 | Wobin | They can spread the workload |
| 11:50.10 | Wobin | Xinhuan: That's fine |
| 11:50.16 | Lukian | Wobin, as long as they can't talk in trade channel ^_^ |
| 11:50.21 | Wobin | As long as I can't hear you, it's not a problem =P |
| 11:50.28 | Xinhuan | not really, because every connection is a "login spot" |
| 11:50.31 | Wobin | Well being unable to move or talk would accomplish that |
| 11:50.38 | Xinhuan | it will just make queueing to login worse |
| 11:50.55 | Wobin | Maybe make them gankable =) |
| 11:51.03 | Wobin | ie faction killable by all |
| 11:51.10 | Wobin | With durability loss |
| 11:51.28 | Wobin | I wouldn't mind the queues, if I could smush some BR gnomes |
| 11:51.34 | Wobin | stress release, y'know |
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| 11:52.06 | Wobin | although to be honest, the best way to have a suspension, is have it based on server uptime =P |
| 11:52.06 | Thorgard | Hah, score. The first thing I manage to do on the PTR is generate an error.. by just pulling the combat log tab out to its own frame. |
| 11:52.44 | Wobin | ie, you can't log into your server on any toon for the amount of time it's actually up |
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| 11:56.23 | Xinhuan | "we've killed 7 hoggers now" |
| 11:56.28 | Xinhuan | "how long does each kill take?" |
| 11:56.34 | Xinhuan | "about 5 minutes plus?" |
| 11:57.10 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 11:58.18 | thul | hmm :-P |
| 11:58.24 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 11:59.02 | Arrowmaster | how many gnomes are there killing hogger and how much xp have they gotten by now? |
| 11:59.31 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to have a function that is called every x seconds/frames/whatever? like OnUpdate for a frame but w/o having a frame visible?^^ |
| 11:59.51 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: just have a frame without textures |
| 12:00.11 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: It's a raid =P |
| 12:00.12 | Wobin | no xp |
| 12:00.23 | Arrowmaster | you still get some xp in raids |
| 12:01.06 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: omg to easy lol *head -> table* |
| 12:01.25 | Arrowmaster | you should find some horde warlocks and get them to go spam seed of corruption on the gnomes wobin |
| 12:01.39 | nevcairiel | its alliance friendly territory |
| 12:01.47 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 12:01.50 | Arrowmaster | doh |
| 12:01.53 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: and how is it supposed to do 1500 damage so it cn explode? |
| 12:01.54 | Arrowmaster | horde hunters |
| 12:02.09 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia: 1500 damage or mob death |
| 12:02.23 | [SW]Dodge | cast on a mob and kill him^^ |
| 12:02.57 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:02.59 | Wobin | horde hunters |
| 12:03.01 | Maldivia | ohh, on death aswell, thouhg it was only afther the mob had taken x damage |
| 12:03.03 | Wobin | wtb snaketrap |
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| 12:04.34 | chexsum | some ally dropped a snake trap in the middle of 30 belf lvl1s yesterday |
| 12:04.45 | chexsum | it was a wipe |
| 12:05.32 | Xinhuan | or |
| 12:05.36 | Xinhuan | you can just summon a infernal |
| 12:06.00 | chexsum | locks cant feign death though |
| 12:06.14 | Arrowmaster | we can put it on stay and walk away |
| 12:06.20 | nevcairiel | what would you need fd for when you can own them all :P |
| 12:06.32 | CIA-10 | 03whitetooth * r60934 10StatLogicLib/ (StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua StatLogicLib.toc): |
| 12:06.32 | CIA-10 | StatLogicLib: |
| 12:06.32 | CIA-10 | - StatSum has support for empty sockets |
| 12:06.32 | CIA-10 | - Updated GetNormalManaRegenFromSpi(spi, int, level) (only for 2.4) |
| 12:06.46 | chexsum | this was at sunwell and npcs protect you |
| 12:06.54 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 12:07.07 | Arrowmaster | did the npcs attack the snakes? |
| 12:07.18 | chexsum | no :\ |
| 12:07.30 | chexsum | i dont think so anyway |
| 12:07.34 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493772891&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 12:07.39 | Xinhuan | Please follow this thread in Realm Status for more information regarding Blackrock's status: |
| 12:07.40 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493772906&sid=1 |
| 12:07.40 | Xinhuan | And for pete's sake, get offa Argent Dawn. |
| 12:07.44 | Xinhuan | lol @ blue post |
| 12:08.49 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:09.07 | Xinhuan | i think the blue poster kinda gave up arguing |
| 12:09.08 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 12:10.09 | Wobin | I just like how the 'reasoning' for all the brockians is "omg, I -personally- don't want to grief other's playing time since I'm an adult and understand how it works, but, I -will- nyahnyahnyahphbbbt" |
| 12:10.38 | Wobin | It's so schoolyard |
| 12:11.27 | Wobin | and "Oh it's alright, we only completely spam all the channels for hours on end, and harass other players. They can put their stuff on the AH and ignore us." |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-10 | 03whitetooth * r60935 10RatingBuster/ (4 files): |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-10 | RatingBuster: |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-10 | - In 2.4.0: Support for 2.4 Spirit-Based Mana Regeneration, try it on test server |
| 12:11.42 | Wobin | brock logic is not earth logic |
| 12:14.25 | nevcairiel | hm engineering google upgrade plans drop in sunwell |
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| 12:14.36 | nevcairiel | guess i'll have to buy it from my own guild for my alt, doh |
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| 12:18.51 | [SW]Dodge | uhm, if i have local tab = { index = { bla "" } }; i should be able to acces it like tab[i].bla where i is a numerical value? |
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| 12:19.51 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 12:19.56 | Xinhuan | its not numerical |
| 12:20.18 | [SW]Dodge | :( |
| 12:20.19 | Xinhuan | tab.index.bla |
| 12:20.26 | Arrowmaster | if index is [1] |
| 12:20.27 | Xinhuan | or tab["index"].blah |
| 12:20.35 | Xinhuan | or tab["index"]["blah"] |
| 12:20.38 | Arrowmaster | you could do tab[1].bla |
| 12:20.45 | Xinhuan | or tab.index["blah"] |
| 12:20.49 | Xinhuan | u get the idea :) |
| 12:21.12 | Xinhuan | or local abc = "index" tab[abc].blah |
| 12:21.41 | Arrowmaster | anybody on ptr i dont feel like logging in to check this |
| 12:22.00 | Arrowmaster | or even normal wow |
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| 12:23.12 | Wobin | use a luabot? |
| 12:23.30 | [SW]Dodge | is it possible to make an "array of tables" that i can run through it with a for loop? or an alternative idea |
| 12:23.34 | Arrowmaster | cant |
| 12:24.02 | Xinhuan | if you make an array of tables then those tables still have to be indexed somehow |
| 12:24.06 | Arrowmaster | trying to test something thats received a bugfix by slouken in wow |
| 12:24.09 | Xinhuan | you can integer index them |
| 12:24.11 | Arrowmaster | luabot behaves different |
| 12:24.21 | Xinhuan | or something else |
| 12:24.24 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, what bug? |
| 12:24.34 | JoshBorke | [SW]Dodge: for k, v in pairs(<table>) do if type(v) == "table" then <do stuff on the nested table> end end |
| 12:24.38 | JoshBorke | ~pil |
| 12:24.39 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 12:24.39 | Xinhuan | the hex number literal stuff? |
| 12:24.41 | Elkano | well, you could also simly uses for key, value in pairs(table) do |
| 12:24.43 | Arrowmaster | one with bitlib only using a signed 32bit int |
| 12:24.50 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 12:25.05 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(0xF130004AC4001A77, 0x0000FFFFFF000000) |
| 12:25.05 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0, |
| 12:25.10 | Arrowmaster | kinda related |
| 12:25.18 | Xinhuan | what is the wrong result given? |
| 12:25.44 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: bitlib will return negative values |
| 12:25.46 | Xinhuan | in this case Arrowmaster, luabot's result is wrong because hexstring->number conversions are not properly done |
| 12:25.58 | Xinhuan | because of 32-but platforms |
| 12:26.06 | Xinhuan | bit* |
| 12:26.16 | Xinhuan | those hex strings are clearly > 32 bits |
| 12:26.19 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: ok so how can we extract that again? |
| 12:26.45 | Xinhuan | well my point is, its wrong with both luabot and ingame wow |
| 12:26.56 | Arrowmaster | well luabot does this |
| 12:27.01 | Xinhuan | in that above number |
| 12:27.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(0xFFFFFFFF,0xFFFFFFFF) |
| 12:27.13 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: -1, |
| 12:27.16 | Maldivia | lua> print("0xF130004AC4001A77"):sub(7,12) |
| 12:27.17 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0xF130004AC4001A77, [string "print("0xF130004AC4001A77"):sub(7,12)"]:1: attempt to index a nil value |
| 12:27.23 | Xinhuan | lua> 0x0000FFFFFF000000 |
| 12:27.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2.8147495993344e+14 |
| 12:27.28 | Maldivia | lua> print(("0xF130004AC4001A77"):sub(7,12)) |
| 12:27.29 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 004AC4 |
| 12:27.41 | Arrowmaster | we cant use the strings |
| 12:27.50 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 12:27.59 | Xinhuan | its a string vs literal thing |
| 12:28.31 | Maldivia | we recieve the guids as strings from the combat log events, right? |
| 12:28.32 | Xinhuan | sigh, blackrock is still down |
| 12:28.35 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:28.39 | Arrowmaster | its a number |
| 12:28.58 | Xinhuan | you receive them as a number, but if you try to convert it to a string form, it'll fail |
| 12:29.07 | Xinhuan | unless fixed |
| 12:29.32 | CIA-10 | 03joshborke * r60936 10InterfaceOptionsOptions/Options.lua: InterfaceOptionsOptions: set a max size |
| 12:29.33 | Arrowmaster | slouken might have done some hackery to wows lua for us |
| 12:29.36 | Arrowmaster | who knows |
| 12:29.47 | haste | odd name is odd JoshBorke |
| 12:29.52 | Xinhuan | i doubt its some hackery |
| 12:30.06 | JoshBorke | haste: thank you, it's to prevent the masses from trying it |
| 12:30.07 | Xinhuan | could always just tostring() the number and manually do string division HEHE |
| 12:30.10 | JoshBorke | they'll be like, wtf is this? |
| 12:30.32 | haste | JoshBorke: I think more people will try it when it has a name like that :p |
| 12:30.37 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: dont think so |
| 12:30.54 | Arrowmaster | lua> tostring(0xF130004AC4001A77) |
| 12:30.55 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1.7379391283139e+19, |
| 12:31.20 | Maldivia | lua> guid = 17379391283138665079; print(string.format("0x%08x%08x", math.floor(guid / 2^32), math.mod(guid, 2^32)) |
| 12:31.20 | lua_bot | Maldivia: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "guid = 17379391283138665079; print(string.format("0x%08x%08x", ..."]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 12:31.29 | Maldivia | lua> guid = 17379391283138665079; print(string.format("0x%08x%08x", math.floor(guid / 2^32), math.mod(guid, 2^32))) |
| 12:31.30 | lua_bot | Maldivia: [string "guid = 17379391283138665079; print(string.f..."]:1: attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
| 12:31.43 | Xinhuan | don't use mod |
| 12:31.44 | Xinhuan | use % |
| 12:31.51 | Arrowmaster | wait a minute |
| 12:31.54 | Maldivia | lua> guid = 17379391283138665079; print(string.format("0x%08x%08x", math.floor(guid / 2^32), guid % 2^32)) |
| 12:31.55 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 0xf130004ac4001800 |
| 12:32.15 | Maldivia | bugger, should have been 0xF130004AC4001A77 |
| 12:32.32 | Maldivia | not high enough precision |
| 12:32.43 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck are we suppost to use these guids in wow if the later parts are the unique bits, but lua is converting them to floating point that destroies the persison? |
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| 12:33.27 | Maldivia | strings |
| 12:33.32 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
| 12:33.39 | Maldivia | well, if they wree strings from the event |
| 12:34.05 | Arrowmaster | but they arent afaik |
| 12:34.15 | Maldivia | I really thought they were, considering the statement for the log filtering methods, where: if a string, it's considered a guid, of a number it's considered flags |
| 12:34.51 | nevcairiel | they are stirngs in the event |
| 12:34.54 | Arrowmaster | wait what? |
| 12:35.02 | Maldivia | then no problem |
| 12:35.14 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 12:35.16 | nevcairiel | you get them as strings, and can split them into mod id, unique part, etc |
| 12:35.24 | nevcairiel | *mob |
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| 12:36.24 | Xinhuan | you can split the strings up into chunks to convert to numbers at least |
| 12:36.28 | Xinhuan | and vice versa |
| 12:36.28 | CIA-10 | 03whitetooth * r60937 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 12:36.28 | CIA-10 | StatLogicLib: |
| 12:36.28 | CIA-10 | - Now works with [Insightful Earthstorm Diamond] |
| 12:36.28 | CIA-10 | - DEBUG = false |
| 12:36.41 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: yeah |
| 12:36.55 | Xinhuan | " Why did it take 90 mins to restart the server during raids? This caused all the raids to be called. " |
| 12:36.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:37.02 | Xinhuan | (its still down) |
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| 12:37.55 | Arrowmaster | so then |
| 12:37.59 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(string.sub("0xF130004AC4001A77",-12,-7),16)) |
| 12:37.59 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "tonumber(string.sub("0xF130004AC4001A77",-12,-7),16))"]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 12:38.05 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(string.sub("0xF130004AC4001A77",-12,-7),16) |
| 12:38.06 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 19140, |
| 12:38.44 | Arrowmaster | and i dont know about you but imho -12,-7 is better than 6,12 |
| 12:38.52 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 12:39.07 | nevcairiel | do you think length might change? :D |
| 12:39.38 | Arrowmaster | well if the input isnt directly from the events somebody might pass in a string without the 0x |
| 12:39.44 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 12:39.46 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 12:39.53 | Arrowmaster | which would still be valid |
| 12:39.53 | Maldivia | also, might remove leading zeros |
| 12:40.24 | Xinhuan | i would be very cautious about doing any such coding |
| 12:40.28 | Xinhuan | involving hex digits |
| 12:40.38 | Maldivia | why? |
| 12:40.59 | Arrowmaster | because were fucked if it gets turned into a number from a string |
| 12:41.07 | Xinhuan | accuracy issues |
| 12:41.09 | Arrowmaster | for the guids atleast |
| 12:41.13 | Xinhuan | for lower significant bits |
| 12:41.20 | nevcairiel | i dont think they'll ever turn it into a number |
| 12:41.47 | Maldivia | internally in the client, I'm quite positive it's stored as a 64-bit int, and not a string |
| 12:41.48 | Arrowmaster | we can turn parts of it into a number though |
| 12:41.50 | nevcairiel | they said already that "if a string, it's considered a guid, of a number it's considered flags" |
| 12:42.08 | nevcairiel | so they will most likely always pass a GUID to us |
| 12:42.16 | nevcairiel | because they know about the accuracy issue |
| 12:42.32 | nevcairiel | er, always pass a GUID as string |
| 12:42.36 | Xinhuan | [2/11 20:41:47] <Maldivia> internally in the client, I'm quite positive it's stored as a 64-bit int, and not a string |
| 12:42.42 | Xinhuan | 64 bit Ints dont' exist on 32-bit platforms |
| 12:42.43 | Maldivia | the question is, if we pass the string "123" to the filter method will it be parsed to the value: 123 or 0x123 |
| 12:42.51 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: Yes they do |
| 12:42.52 | Xinhuan | at least, not directly |
| 12:42.55 | Kivin | They do, they're just not atomic |
| 12:43.08 | Xinhuan | if they do that, its not very efficient |
| 12:43.15 | Maldivia | long long for a typical 64-bit int C variable |
| 12:43.24 | Kivin | __int64 |
| 12:43.32 | Xinhuan | well i don't see why 64 bits is necessary |
| 12:43.37 | Xinhuan | isn't 2^32 ids enough |
| 12:43.43 | FinalX | haha |
| 12:43.46 | Maldivia | no |
| 12:43.47 | nevcairiel | they decided to use ^64 |
| 12:44.01 | nevcairiel | because they dont use every id |
| 12:44.05 | FinalX | that's precisely why 64-bit came into existence, "what, 16-bits isn't enough? let's go 32..oh wait, let's go 64 now.." |
| 12:44.16 | Maldivia | IPv4 vs IPv6 :) |
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| 12:44.53 | nevcairiel | like we figured out earlier, the GUIDs contain various information about the mobs they represent |
| 12:45.09 | nevcairiel | i bet it would be possible to use 32bit int if they would only use a random GUID that counts upwards |
| 12:45.11 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.match("0xF130004AC4001A77","0x(%x%x%x%x)(%x%x%x%x%x%x)(%x%x%x%x%x%x)") |
| 12:45.11 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: F130, 004AC4, 001A77, |
| 12:45.12 | nevcairiel | but they dont |
| 12:46.10 | Pheredhel | and they cant really do that, cause it would get slow |
| 12:46.15 | Maldivia | if you just had a counter, static IDs (for players) would be a mess |
| 12:46.31 | Pheredhel | and: how to recycle id's ? |
| 12:46.35 | Grum | why ? |
| 12:46.47 | Kivin | just keep ++ing |
| 12:46.56 | nevcairiel | ids are only recycled on server/instance restart |
| 12:46.57 | Grum | just dedicate certain ranges for certain things |
| 12:47.05 | Kivin | by the time you use 2^32 ids, the first one should be guaranteed to be safe |
| 12:47.14 | nevcairiel | Kivin: they didnt want to do that |
| 12:47.15 | Pheredhel | you'd reach the limits of 32bit very fast by just increasing |
| 12:47.15 | Arrowmaster | do we have a way to tell a player from a mob guid yet? |
| 12:47.17 | nevcairiel | so they went 64bit |
| 12:47.21 | Grum | weekly server reboot |
| 12:47.26 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: use the flags =P |
| 12:47.26 | Maldivia | Kivin: and if the first is a player, meaning a static ID, then it's not? |
| 12:47.27 | Pheredhel | uhm kivin ? should it be? |
| 12:47.34 | Pheredhel | and if no 1 is a player? |
| 12:47.50 | Maldivia | Kivin: or what if the first is the innkeeper in SW, that hasn't been killed since server start |
| 12:48.06 | FinalX | "640kb ought to be enough for everybody" |
| 12:48.10 | Kivin | hmm hostiles, npcs, and player characters share the same pool? |
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| 12:48.14 | chexsum | how do i get the client version number? |
| 12:48.17 | Grum | Kivin: yeah |
| 12:48.17 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: i wouldnt be surprised if the mob id part is 0 for players, or something |
| 12:48.18 | Pheredhel | yes |
| 12:48.29 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: it is |
| 12:48.30 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: thats exactly what im thinking |
| 12:48.35 | Grum | remember its just per battlegroup |
| 12:48.38 | Pheredhel | and if not: rather have 3,4,5? 32 bit ints? |
| 12:48.40 | Xinhuan | the other "Blackrock down" customer forum thread has reached 9 pages |
| 12:48.41 | Arrowmaster | since 2^32 should be enough for players |
| 12:48.41 | Xinhuan | and is growing |
| 12:48.49 | Quezacolt | chexsum: GetBuildInfo() |
| 12:48.54 | Arrowmaster | lua> 2^32 |
| 12:48.55 | Grum | so at most 250k people orso |
| 12:48.55 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4294967296 |
| 12:48.58 | chexsum | ko |
| 12:49.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah 2^32 is enough for players |
| 12:49.26 | Pheredhel | grum, so expect about 2.5 .10^6 chars |
| 12:49.28 | nevcairiel | in your string.match example you only split off 24 bit tho |
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| 12:49.42 | nevcairiel | lua> 2^24 |
| 12:49.43 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 16777216 |
| 12:49.50 | nevcairiel | still enough probably =P |
| 12:49.55 | Grum | easily |
| 12:49.56 | Pheredhel | yes would be enough, but I'd rather have 1 64 bit int than 3 or 4 32 bit ints |
| 12:49.58 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 12:49.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 12:50.05 | Xinhuan | someone linked that in the BR down thread hahaha |
| 12:50.08 | Xinhuan | :> |
| 12:50.10 | Maldivia | nev: with 10 mill accounts... that's 1.6 char pr account |
| 12:50.29 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: ids are only per battlegroup tho |
| 12:50.30 | Kivin | does each char have the same guid for life? |
| 12:50.37 | Maldivia | Kivin: yes |
| 12:50.41 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia: us eu and all the different asian ones dont have to share |
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| 12:51.22 | nevcairiel | lua> 2^24 / 50 |
| 12:51.22 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 335544.32 |
| 12:51.37 | nevcairiel | so, 300k players in one battlegroup, each with 50 chars |
| 12:51.41 | Grum | Maldivia: only unique per battlegroup |
| 12:51.54 | Arrowmaster | battlegroup sounds safer |
| 12:51.54 | Grum | likely all of your 'characterslots' have a unique id |
| 12:52.00 | nevcairiel | (50 was account limit, right?) |
| 12:52.12 | Arrowmaster | since they dont delete inactive accounts |
| 12:52.18 | Grum | hmmm i'm not sure |
| 12:52.24 | Grum | 10 per server per side right? |
| 12:52.27 | phalse | anyone noticed the latest version of pitbull not responding to /pitbull? |
| 12:52.32 | nevcairiel | 10 per server in total |
| 12:52.34 | Arrowmaster | we have to remember that inactive accounts are still part of this pool of guids |
| 12:52.38 | Pheredhel | even if 2^32 is enough for players... why should they seperate them ? |
| 12:52.46 | FinalX | 50 is the account limit. |
| 12:52.48 | Arrowmaster | its not 32 |
| 12:52.52 | Arrowmaster | its 24 |
| 12:52.53 | FinalX | and aye, 10 per server in total. |
| 12:53.03 | Arrowmaster | 24 isnt enough for all players |
| 12:53.12 | FinalX | (i've actually already hit the limit once on my account :P) |
| 12:53.24 | Grum | they have said its per 'battleground' |
| 12:53.30 | Maldivia | finalX: for total chars pr account? |
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| 12:53.46 | FinalX | Maldivia: yes :p |
| 12:53.49 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if player guids are recycled |
| 12:53.52 | Maldivia | hmm... that will mean, that transfering a char from server to another will change guid |
| 12:53.53 | phalse | its 50 chars across all servers/bg's per acct? hm. |
| 12:53.59 | Grum | they werent when i started again Arrowmaster |
| 12:54.00 | FinalX | got lots of lowbie alts on diff servers for when my current realm is down or to chat with friends |
| 12:54.15 | Grum | i revived my chars after having em inactive for more than a year |
| 12:54.23 | FinalX | phalse: 50 chars per account, max 10 chars per realm on that account, nothing more, nothing less. |
| 12:54.25 | Arrowmaster | i ment deleted chars |
| 12:54.34 | Pkekyo| | it's a 10 characters per server, 50 characters per account |
| 12:54.55 | Grum | Arrowmaster: those they prolly keep for a long time as well |
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| 12:55.21 | Wobin | how can you recycle? |
| 12:55.28 | FinalX | Arrowmaster: they never get recycled, your characters are never purged from the systems, had blizzard restore somebody's deleted char in matter of minutes the other day with all old shit he had. |
| 12:55.30 | Grum | re-use something? :p |
| 12:55.40 | Arrowmaster | they have to recycle some imho, even 2^24 per battlegroup could run out with the number of characters people create and delete |
| 12:55.46 | Wobin | Thanks, Grum =P |
| 12:56.12 | Grum | Arrowmaster: hence my suggestion it is per 'slot' |
| 12:56.15 | phalse | I think oldversion.com is a great idea. too bad there are no older copies of pitbull there. |
| 12:56.34 | haste | svn... *cough* |
| 12:56.37 | Grum | phalse: files.wowace.com/PitBull ? |
| 12:56.37 | Kivin | svn ;p |
| 12:56.43 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:56.45 | Grum | its not that hard >< |
| 12:56.47 | phalse | invalid url as long as I can remember |
| 12:56.49 | Arrowmaster | or you could get the old versions from files.wowace.com |
| 12:56.49 | Wobin | with uniqueIDs, y'know what? |
| 12:56.50 | Grum | it has all versions since the first release |
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| 12:57.00 | Wobin | Someone could write a blacklist mod |
| 12:57.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 12:57.06 | Wobin | that the major guilds could download |
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| 12:57.18 | Grum | PitBull-r30742.zip 22-Mar-2007 20:01 6346 |
| 12:57.18 | Wobin | and prevent ninjas from transferring into their guild |
| 12:57.32 | Arrowmaster | but a server transfer will probably change guids |
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| 12:57.44 | Arrowmaster | even if its in the same battlegroup i bet |
| 12:58.07 | Arrowmaster | name changes wont |
| 12:58.22 | phalse | ah. for some reason I remember digging around and not finding that file list, as with omen and others, thanks |
| 12:58.26 | Arrowmaster | since if you have an item crafted by somebody and they get a namechange the <Made by ...> gets updated |
| 12:58.57 | Kivin | And your friend/ignore list updates for name changes |
| 13:00.00 | phalse | that would imply some unique uid or other data token assigned to each object and/or person etc |
| 13:00.04 | Arrowmaster | fuck 8am, i need sleep |
| 13:00.06 | Xinhuan | zzz |
| 13:00.21 | phalse | with all the resources that require, even richy-rich blizz would never go for it |
| 13:00.22 | Arrowmaster | phase: item uniqueid field |
| 13:00.40 | phalse | yep. but multiply that times however many items, per acct, per server, etc.. |
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| 13:01.00 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: pussy |
| 13:01.13 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 13:01.19 | phalse | I'm not saying its a bad idea.. hell, works for me. its probably just not practical |
| 13:01.20 | Arrowmaster | im getting old |
| 13:01.31 | Pkekyo| | and fat |
| 13:01.35 | Pkekyo| | O.o |
| 13:01.35 | Arrowmaster | i have trouble staying up over 24 hours now =( |
| 13:01.44 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.45 | Arrowmaster | i once went a week without sleep |
| 13:01.56 | Pkekyo| | it's not your fault that you're an old fat fart |
| 13:02.03 | phalse | other way around for me.. friggin game has me staying up late all the time. I'm thinking about trying to adjust to where I only sleep every other day |
| 13:02.05 | Arrowmaster | im only 21 =( |
| 13:02.07 | break19 | uhm.. if you've forgotten your pw to the dev svn site.. what do ya do? heh |
| 13:02.08 | Kivin | I feel your pain, brotha |
| 13:02.14 | Kivin | I'm getting old and tired |
| 13:02.26 | nevcairiel | break19: cry :) |
| 13:02.32 | break19 | lol |
| 13:02.44 | Arrowmaster | send email requesting a new pass |
| 13:02.51 | nevcairiel | or that |
| 13:03.01 | break19 | already done... just awaiting it. |
| 13:03.07 | Arrowmaster | use a gmail account |
| 13:03.10 | Arrowmaster | you wont forget it |
| 13:03.28 | break19 | yea well.. i dont like webmail |
| 13:03.35 | Arrowmaster | neither do i |
| 13:03.44 | Kreiger_ | you guys know the /script command to let you zoom all the way out? |
| 13:03.53 | Kreiger_ | or let you do so further then the normal wow ui lets you? |
| 13:04.01 | Arrowmaster | i never use my gmail account but i check it via imap in my mail client |
| 13:04.07 | phalse | I just recently saw that in some guys pvp vid.. it zoomed out about a third of the way across the zone |
| 13:04.54 | Arrowmaster | ok going to bed |
| 13:04.59 | break19 | on a semi-related note: I've noticed a couple of addons that I use, have externals that arent quite set right.. Im getting folders like this (the actual name of the single folder is "Libs\AceAddon-2.0" thats 1 folder.. |
| 13:05.29 | Xinhuan | Breaking News - Character copies to the PTR are currently disabled |
| 13:05.31 | Xinhuan | bah |
| 13:05.56 | jy | i need a complete reset |
| 13:05.57 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: I'm only 18, and even I'm an old fuck :p |
| 13:06.03 | phalse | I have yet to even touch the ptr. I assume all it'll do is make me mad since I only really play a lock, rogue and shaman. thus, teh news is always bad |
| 13:06.05 | jy | no more copy left |
| 13:06.11 | break19 | both xperlfu, and groupcalendarfu are guilty of this... |
| 13:07.41 | Xinhuan | so? |
| 13:08.17 | break19 | Xinhuan: to whom was that directed? |
| 13:08.44 | Xinhuan | you ;p |
| 13:08.55 | Xinhuan | but, i'll look at the externals |
| 13:09.00 | break19 | heh |
| 13:09.55 | Xinhuan | Libs\AceAddon-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/ |
| 13:10.05 | Xinhuan | looks fine to me |
| 13:10.36 | break19 | exactly.. it creates a folder called "Libs\AceAddon-2.0" instead of a folder called Libs with a subfolder called AceAddon-2.0 |
| 13:10.50 | Xinhuan | what svn client are you using |
| 13:11.10 | break19 | uhm... I got the zip from files.wowace.com... |
| 13:11.17 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 13:11.21 | break19 | I dont use externals with an svn client.. |
| 13:11.21 | Xinhuan | i'll check the silly zip lol |
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| 13:12.02 | nevcairiel | thats why i dont do Libs\blabla on the main folder, but create a Libs folder |
| 13:12.08 | Xinhuan | actually nevcairiel |
| 13:12.10 | nevcairiel | it screws up on silly systems |
| 13:12.11 | Xinhuan | it works fine if |
| 13:12.15 | Xinhuan | you do Libs/blahblah |
| 13:12.20 | Xinhuan | just not Libs\blahblah |
| 13:12.32 | Xinhuan | clearly a human error |
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| 13:12.45 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about having the dir anyway ? =) |
| 13:12.49 | break19 | "silly systems", in otherwords anything NOT windows? because every other system uses / for directory delimiters.. |
| 13:12.50 | Xinhuan | and a zip script error for failing to recognize it |
| 13:13.15 | haste | I always fail at windows slashes :( |
| 13:13.31 | haste | and by always I mean _every_ time I create a TOC |
| 13:13.38 | nevcairiel | its clearly the zip scripts fault for not checking that |
| 13:13.45 | phalse | windows dir slashes are bothersome.. further away than the other one on the keyboard which is closer to the home row xD |
| 13:14.03 | phalse | / ftw. |
| 13:14.07 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.13 | [SW]Dodge | ^ ! |
| 13:14.22 | Xinhuan | both slashes are equally easy to type :p |
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| 13:14.27 | Xinhuan | used to both |
| 13:14.37 | haste | totally depends on your keyboard setup |
| 13:14.53 | nevcairiel | i prefer / actually |
| 13:14.58 | nevcairiel | typing-wise |
| 13:15.08 | phalse | yeah on my laptop its not so bad but back in the day with the \ about 3 feet that way ----------> |
| 13:15.17 | phalse | ..tedious. |
| 13:15.27 | break19 | \ is of the devil.. / is a divine gift. |
| 13:16.00 | nevcairiel | and \o/ |
| 13:16.02 | [SW]Dodge | \o\ \o/ /o/ <- Partey ^^ |
| 13:16.07 | RaydenUni | morning |
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| 13:16.48 | phalse | I wonder how many msgs via irc the various addon authors get.. |
| 13:17.04 | Xinhuan | none |
| 13:17.17 | break19 | i've got 1 addon on the svn.. uhm.. none for me. heh |
| 13:17.28 | nevcairiel | i rarely get someone bothering me about BT3 |
| 13:17.47 | break19 | wtb xin's knack for Lua.. |
| 13:17.51 | phalse | heh yeah irc is so 1996, basically |
| 13:17.58 | haste | 5+ per day |
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| 13:18.06 | break19 | 1996?! oh puhlease. like 1988 |
| 13:18.07 | phalse | I know there are a few people in my guild that'd like to get hold of you |
| 13:18.12 | nevcairiel | actually haste, you loose :P |
| 13:18.18 | haste | :-( |
| 13:18.31 | steino | everyone wants a piece of haste |
| 13:18.32 | haste | I don't have forum topics like other peopel tho' + I hide my stuff D: |
| 13:18.38 | nevcairiel | everyone posts in that big fucking mega thread about BT3, and i really cba to answer that anymore |
| 13:19.05 | haste | you should do like me nevcairiel |
| 13:19.08 | haste | not make a topic at all |
| 13:19.10 | phalse | yeah but 90% of it is probably the usual which they could sort for themselves if they'd just rtfm |
| 13:19.16 | haste | they tend to make one themselves |
| 13:19.20 | haste | and answer each other |
| 13:19.35 | haste | just look at the thread dedicated to hacking oUF :p |
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| 13:19.48 | phalse | hmf. pitbull ftw. |
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| 13:20.03 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 13:20.05 | nevcairiel | s/w/l/ |
| 13:20.06 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 13:20.10 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.33 | nevcairiel | is that utf8 for the basilisks eye or something ? :P |
| 13:20.38 | haste | utf-8 |
| 13:20.46 | haste | for an arrow up! |
| 13:21.01 | break19 | pitbull?! sure.. lemme use this 16lb sledgehammer to drive in a few half-inch brad nails... |
| 13:21.13 | haste | â†â†“↑→ are all of them :3 |
| 13:21.17 | phalse | nono, pitbull is light and free and airy |
| 13:21.19 | Xinhuan | so break19 |
| 13:21.19 | nevcairiel | my font doesnt render utf8 |
| 13:21.21 | haste | which I have keys for at least |
| 13:21.25 | Xinhuan | my winzip correctly unzips |
| 13:21.28 | Xinhuan | the zip file |
| 13:21.31 | Xinhuan | into libs\blah |
| 13:21.31 | break19 | åßç∂´ƒ... |
| 13:21.35 | Xinhuan | with proper subfolders |
| 13:21.40 | Xinhuan | maybe its your unzipping program? |
| 13:21.43 | break19 | Xinhuan: because you're on windows.. do it on nix |
| 13:21.58 | Xinhuan | what are you using to unzip? |
| 13:22.09 | nevcairiel | maybe winzip is smart enough to convert \ in filenames into sub dirs |
| 13:22.30 | break19 | Xinhuan: i use /bin/unzip |
| 13:23.00 | Xinhuan | ok i'm a nice guy |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan * r60938 10FuBar_XPerlFu/: |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | FuBar_XPerlFu: |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | - Fix the externals to use / instead of \ because wowace zipscripts doesn't |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | screw up and make folders like "Libs\AceAddon-2.0" instead of a folder called |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | "AceAddon-2.0" inside a folder called "Libs". Note this only affects non-windows |
| 13:23.13 | CIA-10 | users. |
| 13:24.47 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: I like that you fixed it because the zip script doesn't screw up :) |
| 13:25.04 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 13:25.10 | Xinhuan | whats the other addon that does it |
| 13:25.20 | break19 | groupcalendarfu.. |
| 13:25.28 | Xinhuan | meh, afk 15, will fix later |
| 13:26.02 | phalse | I don't suppose anyone in here is an enchanter on burning legion eh.. |
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| 13:27.51 | phalse | damn. oh well.. gotta go find someone to do my axes, cheers |
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| 13:35.21 | Xinhuan | i'm back |
| 13:35.23 | Xinhuan | anyway |
| 13:35.26 | Xinhuan | im curious to know |
| 13:35.42 | Xinhuan | if the TOC specified to load Libs\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua |
| 13:35.46 | Xinhuan | would that folder path work |
| 13:35.48 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:35.57 | nevcairiel | wow always needs \ slashes |
| 13:36.04 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 13:36.14 | Xinhuan | but in that case the folder was a single folder with a "\" in it |
| 13:36.17 | Xinhuan | would that still work? |
| 13:36.24 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 13:36.26 | Xinhuan | rather than a folder inside another folder |
| 13:36.41 | Xinhuan | seeing as nobody's ever complained about it before, i assume it might work? |
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| 13:41.58 | Erica | Is there a way to change settings for the new mobhealth? Right now it's carrying the health values out to like 8 decimals |
| 13:42.29 | Xinhuan | i can't find a |
| 13:42.32 | Xinhuan | groupcalenderfu |
| 13:42.32 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 13:42.35 | Xinhuan | on wowace |
| 13:43.02 | RaydenUni | what were all your reactions to the Hakkar plague? |
| 13:43.12 | Olison | wat |
| 13:43.19 | Xinhuan | i conjured a stack of food |
| 13:43.24 | Xinhuan | and sat down and ate it permanently |
| 13:43.31 | Xinhuan | then when i got bored of it, i ported away and iceblocked |
| 13:43.42 | keiss | Xinhuan: FuBar_GroupCalendarFu |
| 13:43.52 | RaydenUni | you can eat while taking dmg from disease? |
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| 13:44.36 | nevcairiel | yes you can eat against DoTs |
| 13:44.44 | nevcairiel | you cant use 1staid however |
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| 13:45.00 | Xinhuan | Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.luahttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary/ |
| 13:45.04 | Xinhuan | Libs\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.luahttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/ |
| 13:45.05 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 13:45.09 | Xinhuan | at the externals |
| 13:45.21 | Xinhuan | it even has tabs in it |
| 13:45.30 | Xinhuan | between the front url and back url |
| 13:45.37 | nevcairiel | tabs are allowed |
| 13:45.40 | nevcairiel | alot of people use that |
| 13:45.49 | Xinhuan | yeah but naming the lua file on the left? |
| 13:45.58 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 13:46.04 | nevcairiel | thats kinda weird, ya :P |
| 13:46.04 | Xinhuan | and a folder on the right? |
| 13:46.09 | Xinhuan | and that didn't break externals? |
| 13:46.15 | durcyn | he's going to get a directory named AceLibrary.lua |
| 13:46.19 | nevcairiel | you can have folders with a . in them |
| 13:46.25 | Xinhuan | i'm gonna checkout with externals and see what i get |
| 13:46.50 | Xinhuan | E:\AddOns\FuBar_GroupCalendarFu\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua\AceLibrary.lua |
| 13:46.51 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 13:46.57 | durcyn | told ya. |
| 13:46.57 | Xinhuan | major fail |
| 13:48.09 | Xinhuan | toc specifies |
| 13:48.10 | Xinhuan | Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 13:48.10 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:48.14 | Xinhuan | clearly major fail |
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| 13:58.47 | Pkekyo| | what does 'desensitization' mean? |
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| 13:59.25 | keiss | Pkekyo|: what doctors do so that u dont feel pain ... dunno how to describe it better :D |
| 13:59.47 | Grum | it means killing the nerve so you never feel anything again |
| 13:59.50 | kenlyric | the process by which your sensitivity to something is reduced. |
| 14:00.18 | FinalX | Pkekyo|: apt-get install dict :) |
| 14:00.19 | kenlyric | pain, poison, fear, violence, etc |
| 14:00.30 | FinalX | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.30 | FinalX | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.41 | FinalX | easy as pie with dict :o |
| 14:00.47 | Pkekyo| | FinalX: not running linux atm :) |
| 14:01.01 | SunTsu | Even google would do ;) |
| 14:01.03 | kenlyric | dict also works in firefox |
| 14:01.10 | Pkekyo| | kenlyricthe process by which your sensitivity to something is reduced. <--- most likely the right answer :p |
| 14:01.15 | Pkekyo| | nor do I use firefox :> |
| 14:01.25 | kenlyric | lame |
| 14:01.31 | Pkekyo| | not really |
| 14:01.46 | FinalX | i dont like firefox either, only browser i really like is opera and that's not perfect either |
| 14:02.11 | Pkekyo| | it's not perfect, but hell of a lot better than Fx imo |
| 14:03.10 | Pkekyo| | granted, Fx is to a higher degree lightweight, but that's not what I want :> |
| 14:03.58 | FinalX | earlier Firefox2 versions kept crashing on me.. using Firefox right now on my 64-bit Linux install because there isn't a 64-bit version of Opera yet.. |
| 14:04.22 | Pkekyo| | what makes 64-bit so much better? |
| 14:05.07 | FinalX | Performance in my case, and the feeling of being able to fully use the capabilities of your computer. |
| 14:05.18 | Pkekyo| | reason I'm asking; should I even bother with getting a 64-bit version of XP? |
| 14:05.23 | FinalX | Nah |
| 14:05.26 | FinalX | Don't bother with XP |
| 14:05.54 | Pkekyo| | last time I heard anything about it, it had shitty software support for everything not made specificly for 64-b |
| 14:05.54 | FinalX | Had lots of troubles running 64-bit version of XP due to drivers not being available and a lot of software running oddly |
| 14:06.10 | FinalX | or indeed not run at all ;-) |
| 14:06.16 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60939 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:06.16 | CIA-10 | Babble-2.2 |
| 14:06.16 | CIA-10 | Babble-Zone-2.2: deDE update |
| 14:06.16 | CIA-10 | Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE update |
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| 14:06.22 | FinalX | Don't really have that problem with unix-flavor OS's |
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| 14:06.44 | Pkekyo| | fucksake...writing this article....half-way down the page I for some reason randomly start to write neo-norwegian rather than norwegian >.< |
| 14:06.55 | FinalX | o.O |
| 14:06.56 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan * r60940 10FuBar_GroupCalendarFu/: FuBar_GroupCalendarFu: Fix totally broken externals. |
| 14:07.04 | CIA-10 | 03trasher * r60941 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: |
| 14:07.04 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 14:07.04 | CIA-10 | - frFR update |
| 14:07.10 | SunTsu | FinalX: I do. FreeBSD has no amd64 wine... ;) |
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| 14:08.28 | FinalX | FleaBSE... :o |
| 14:08.40 | FinalX | Sorry, I don't really enjoy FreeBSD :P |
| 14:08.51 | FinalX | ..even though 99% of our 1k+ servers run FreeBSD.. |
| 14:09.21 | SunTsu | I do, and I enjoy having all kind of flavors of unix and unix-alike around |
| 14:09.34 | Grum | FinalX: 64bit is so nice, when all of your 32bit-only codecs dont work >< |
| 14:09.38 | Grum | or did they already fix that crap up? :p |
| 14:10.12 | SunTsu | Which reminds me that I still have to put a harddisk into the Ultra5 in front of me |
| 14:10.51 | FinalX | Grum: w64codecs - Proprietary codec binaries, x86_64 version, and there's support for 32-bit libs :P |
| 14:11.06 | Grum | oee fixed that finally |
| 14:11.09 | Grum | took em long enough :p |
| 14:11.18 | FinalX | Grum: Plus you could always do it the way Thomas used to do, make a 32-bit install inside your 64-bit install :P |
| 14:11.24 | FinalX | Heh, been using those for ages. |
| 14:11.28 | Grum | yeah that is what i used to do |
| 14:11.39 | Grum | 32bit chroot ftl |
| 14:11.46 | FinalX | *nod* |
| 14:12.05 | Grum | Fisker-: get a new fish, that one smells |
| 14:12.06 | FinalX | wut |
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| 14:13.12 | Grum | the best part of your 'wow day' is logging in the first time and opening the mailbox on your bankalt ^^ |
| 14:16.01 | Pkekyo| | that's sad :p |
| 14:16.17 | Pkekyo| | and also applies to me >.< |
| 14:16.36 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me...doing some banking might have me distracted from this fucking article for a few min :p |
| 14:17.01 | CIA-10 | 03quezacolt * r60942 10Checklist2/ (Applet.xml Core.lua Sayings.lua): |
| 14:17.01 | CIA-10 | Checklist2: |
| 14:17.01 | CIA-10 | - Optimized scroll frame update functions. |
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| 14:18.30 | Grum | Pkekyo|: nothing better than scooping that 400-800 out of your mailbox ^^ |
| 14:19.40 | Pkekyo| | Grum: FU |
| 14:19.47 | Grum | ? :( |
| 14:19.49 | Pkekyo| | <--- never gets anything that's worth that much :p |
| 14:20.05 | Grum | oh me neither |
| 14:20.16 | Grum | just loads of 30/40/50/60g sells :) |
| 14:20.30 | Pkekyo| | I never have many of those either :< |
| 14:20.38 | FinalX | i always send shit to my bank alt without ever doing anything with it |
| 14:20.44 | [SW]Dodge | why the hell my fckn OnUpdate Script si not executed :( http://rafb.net/p/NXn8hO26.html IsVisible() and IsShown() both return 1 |
| 14:20.45 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 14:20.46 | FinalX | got like 40 blue boe's in it's mailbox |
| 14:20.56 | FinalX | i usually start selling shit when mail bounces back :P |
| 14:21.00 | Pkekyo| | fuuu, geif blue BoEs |
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| 14:21.27 | Pkekyo| | for some reason, my bank alt got an entire fucking arseloads of herbs |
| 14:21.29 | [SW]Dodge | +no errors in swatter |
| 14:21.31 | Pkekyo| | not quite sure why |
| 14:22.14 | FinalX | hehe veneria and i have a personal guildbank for the two of us, that's also full of herbs (like 3 of our alts have herbalism, she has alchemy) |
| 14:22.16 | Pkekyo| | usually, I only make like 20s profits off bottomscanner :p |
| 14:22.33 | Pkekyo| | none of my chars has herbalism nor alchemy |
| 14:23.00 | Maldivia | uhh... what's this TotemFrame.lua in FrameXML... any shamans seen/tested it? |
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| 14:24.04 | Vangual_ | it's the totem timer/frame mentioned in the patchnotes, haven't tested it yet. But it's nice that they finally provide a small totem api :) |
| 14:24.26 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60943 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (5 files): Bartender4: options for page swapping based on stance |
| 14:24.54 | Fisker- | they don't care about paladins though wah wah |
| 14:24.59 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: found the answer to your problem, or want it? |
| 14:25.30 | Vangual_ | surely they'll rip pallypower and include something in a future patch |
| 14:25.32 | [SW]Dodge | want ^^ |
| 14:25.36 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: CDUPDFRAME:SetScript("OnUpdate", Text_OnUpdate2) |
| 14:25.51 | Maldivia | at this time Text_OnUpdate2 is not defined, hence you're setting OnUpdate = nil |
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| 14:26.16 | [SW]Dodge | ah... |
| 14:26.24 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2843534410&sid=1 :D |
| 14:26.26 | Grum | Pkekyo|: unless its 4-5g or making me sell something else (something is undercutting me) i dont bother with reselling |
| 14:26.51 | [SW]Dodge | thanks Maldivia, i forgot that this could be a reason. :D |
| 14:27.13 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: and are you using the frame for anything else but OnUpdate? |
| 14:27.27 | [SW]Dodge | no just onupdate |
| 14:27.43 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: then just do: local frame = CreateFrame("Frame"); frame:SetScript(....) |
| 14:27.45 | Pkekyo| | Grum: I only vendor :p |
| 14:27.51 | Grum | Pkekyo|: hehe |
| 14:27.53 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: no need to set x, y, width, height, parent, name etc |
| 14:28.08 | Pkekyo| | buying for resale or DEing is just too unreliable for profits |
| 14:28.08 | [SW]Dodge | Maldivia: ok ty :)) |
| 14:28.44 | Maldivia | [SW]Dodge: with your version (parented to UIParent), pressing alt-x would stop your onupdate script, since the frame would be hidden together with uiparetn |
| 14:29.25 | Fisker- | norwegian :( |
| 14:30.23 | Recluse | is there a max index of an aceoptions data table? |
| 14:30.29 | Recluse | er, "order" |
| 14:30.42 | [SW]Dodge | mh i think that wouldnt be a big problem ;) but thank you for the advice |
| 14:30.48 | Grum | you mean you want to put something in last Recluse ? |
| 14:31.10 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60944 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 14:31.10 | CIA-10 | RatingBuster: |
| 14:31.10 | CIA-10 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:31.28 | Grum | Recluse: order (number|methodname|function) - relative position of item (default = 100, 0=first, -1=last) - http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 14:31.34 | Recluse | Grum: nah, was going to sort a list, but my generated "order" integers will be like 0, 4, 150, 500, 800 or something |
| 14:31.50 | Recluse | just didn't know if there was a cap on how high the number can go |
| 14:32.07 | Grum | the max of an int |
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| 14:32.25 | Recluse | kk, which makes sense, but wasn't sure :) ty |
| 14:32.29 | nevcairiel | you can use negative numbers if you always want it aat the end of a list |
| 14:33.03 | Fisker- | nevcairiel blizzard hates me :( |
| 14:33.08 | deadlock | How do i backup auctioneer's data? |
| 14:33.11 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: i do too |
| 14:33.17 | Poul|Raider | event, sGUID, sName, sFlags, dGUID, dName, dFlags - anyone who got a link that explains the flags parameter abit in detail, about what info that can be extracted from em |
| 14:33.27 | Grum | deadlock: backup the relevant savedvariables files |
| 14:33.37 | Recluse | i have a list of items with "values" of 0.00 to ~900.00 and was going to list em in reverse order by doing (maxitemval - itemval) = index |
| 14:33.49 | deadlock | Grum: The savevariables folder, in my character's foler? |
| 14:33.49 | nevcairiel | Poul|Raider: forums.worldofwarcraft.com ->UI Forum -> 2.4 concise list :P |
| 14:33.59 | Grum | Recluse: wth are you storing that is so big? |
| 14:34.00 | Recluse | but didn't know if 900 was too high of an index for the "order" option. but it appears it is :) |
| 14:34.06 | Grum | deadlock: the relevant files |
| 14:34.11 | Grum | dunno which those are |
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| 14:34.24 | deadlock | Grum: where can if ind a list |
| 14:34.25 | Grum | and no-one knows here tbh, its not an wowace addon |
| 14:34.30 | Grum | not here |
| 14:34.32 | Recluse | Grum: well see, there won't be 900 of em in the list - there will be maybe 30-50 at most, but the "values" range |
| 14:34.37 | Grum | join '#norganna' on this server |
| 14:36.23 | Grum | and deadlock, at least visit their wiki |
| 14:36.28 | Grum | seriously, use the google :) |
| 14:36.38 | Grum | Recluse: 50 still is lots |
| 14:36.46 | deadlock | Grum: I did. It has old how to. The files no longer are named the same. |
| 14:36.48 | Grum | more than 20 is lots in 1 level |
| 14:37.00 | Grum | well, then ask on their forum? |
| 14:38.31 | Poul|Raider | nevcairiel, :( gotta go over all the posts to find it |
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| 14:38.53 | sneg__ | hei guys |
| 14:39.10 | sneg__ | can anyone tell me is there a standard lua library for working with mysql db? |
| 14:39.14 | Recluse | Grum: 50's not too many D= |
| 14:39.21 | Grum | wth are you making for options? |
| 14:39.22 | nevcairiel | sneg__: probalby not =P |
| 14:39.22 | Poul|Raider | nevcairiel, A: The Water Elemental is flagged 0x1111. Mine | Friendly | Player-Owned | Pet. This means that if all Frost mages submit their combat logs, then the specific GUIDs for each Mage’s water elemental can be determined. Other Mage’s Water Elementals in the same raid are flagged 0x1112 (Same Party) or 0x1114 (Same Raid). |
| 14:39.28 | Poul|Raider | thats the one right |
| 14:39.28 | Grum | more than 5 'actual' options is even too much |
| 14:39.44 | nevcairiel | Poul|Raider: there was a rather long post about that |
| 14:39.51 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 14:40.06 | sneg__ | necairiel: -_- my databases assignment is in perl and i dont want to do in perl |
| 14:40.18 | sneg__ | my favorite scripting lang is lua so i hoped... |
| 14:40.22 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: bottom of page 9 have all the flags |
| 14:40.26 | Recluse | Grum: there's a lot more in, say, a sharedmedia list... |
| 14:40.26 | sneg__ | i m doomed to perl nastiness -_-;; |
| 14:40.34 | Poul|Raider | thx Maldivia |
| 14:40.42 | Grum | Recluse: you'd have a dropdown orso |
| 14:41.13 | Recluse | Grum: correct - these will be in a deeper selection, not the default menu option list |
| 14:41.17 | nevcairiel | Poul|Raider: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=9#179 |
| 14:41.24 | Grum | Recluse: you sort per group |
| 14:41.27 | Grum | not the complete menu |
| 14:41.36 | Grum | so every group you can start at 0 again |
| 14:41.37 | Recluse | right |
| 14:41.53 | Grum | though you did something silly ;D |
| 14:42.01 | Recluse | lol |
| 14:42.59 | Recluse | for example - baggins anywhere bags - a bag section can be a rather large list. this list i'm creating is similar to those (if you know of those) |
| 14:43.09 | Poul|Raider | nevcairiel, able to give me an examlpe of how i would decode a flag "0xa28" useing that? |
| 14:44.04 | Maldivia | that would be: COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_OUTSIDER + COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_NEUTRAL + COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_NPC + COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_NPC |
| 14:44.16 | nevcairiel | meh he copy/pasted the vars faster |
| 14:44.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:44.24 | nevcairiel | so basically its a neutral NPC |
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| 14:44.40 | Poul|Raider | hm |
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| 14:45.00 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60945 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: Recount: fixed typo |
| 14:45.11 | nevcairiel | he is a outsider, so not in group/raid, he is neutral, and controlled by a NPC, and itself a NPC |
| 14:45.25 | Poul|Raider | so i basicly just add the bits of the events to make the flag |
| 14:45.47 | Maldivia | yeah - and use bitwise-and to reverse it |
| 14:46.03 | Poul|Raider | should be posible to make something that can decode it for me :D |
| 14:46.17 | Poul|Raider | but thx for the replys |
| 14:46.47 | Maldivia | Poul: if bit.band(flags, test) == test then --[[ bits in test is set in flags ]] end |
| 14:47.31 | Maldivia | for instance: bit.band(0xa28, 0x0008) == 0x0008 -- ie, you've just confirmed that it's an outsider |
| 14:47.34 | nevcairiel | the bit library is still weird to use |
| 14:47.43 | nevcairiel | wtb pure bit operations |
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| 14:47.58 | nevcairiel | lua> 0xa28 & 0x0008 |
| 14:47.58 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: [string "0xa28 & 0x0008"]:1: unexpected symbol near '0xa28' |
| 14:48.00 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 14:48.10 | charon | monring |
| 14:48.12 | charon | *morning |
| 14:48.37 | Maldivia | lua> print(bit.band(0xa28,0x0008), bit.band(0xa28, 0x0001)) |
| 14:48.37 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 8, 0 |
| 14:48.48 | nevcairiel | i wonder why they didnt just do normal bit operations |
| 14:48.49 | Maldivia | just to show, that the latter (0x0001) bit is not set |
| 14:48.50 | charon | question about the (old) combat log: i know that HOT ticks don't appear in the log if the target was at full health. does the same hold for targeted heals, or do they always appear? (can't test, i'm at work) |
| 14:48.54 | nevcairiel | since C supports them anyway |
| 14:49.07 | nevcairiel | charon: direct heals always appear |
| 14:49.11 | charon | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 14:49.50 | Ozguli | some mage from my server was meleeing a priest, wearing no shoulders & robe http://83.166.19.39/~hamcha/roguebait/ |
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| 14:49.58 | Ozguli | nelf rogue felt lucky |
| 14:50.50 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0xa28, 0x0008) |
| 14:50.50 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 8, |
| 14:50.55 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0xa28, 0x0001) |
| 14:50.55 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
| 14:51.00 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 14:51.02 | nevcairiel | 0 is not false |
| 14:51.05 | nevcairiel | boo |
| 14:51.26 | Maldivia | lua> bit.band(0xa28, 0x0001) == 0x0001 |
| 14:51.26 | lua_bot | Maldivia: false |
| 14:51.43 | Ozguli | better link http://files.filefront.com/roguebaitwmv/;9612945;/fileinfo.html |
| 14:51.45 | nevcairiel | i was trying to avoid the == part |
| 14:51.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:52.03 | sneg__ | so no way to use xor swap on lua then ? : ) |
| 14:52.05 | nevcairiel | oh well there is that combatlog function to help that |
| 14:52.11 | sneg__ | lua> = bit |
| 14:52.12 | lua_bot | sneg__: sandbox.lua:313: Compilation failed: bit:1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 14:52.42 | sneg__ | oh yeh there is |
| 14:53.06 | nevcairiel | CombatLog_Object_IsA(unitFlags, ...) |
| 14:53.29 | Poul|Raider | thx Maldivia, for the exsample. Just need it in c#.net and not lua, but should not be so hard to find. Thx again |
| 14:53.33 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 14:53.38 | nevcairiel | CombatLog_Object_IsAll seems to be wrong |
| 14:53.55 | Maldivia | Poul: if ((flaggs & bit) == bit) { } |
| 14:55.39 | Poul|Raider | Maldivia, thats easy :D bit would be 0x0008 to test if its an outsider? |
| 14:55.51 | sneg__ | lua> a = 2; b = 9; a = bit.bxor(a, b); b = bit.bxor(b, a); a = bit.bxor(a, b); print("a = " .. a .. ", b = " .. b); |
| 14:55.52 | lua_bot | sneg__: a = 9, b = 2 |
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| 14:56.40 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: yeah, - might aswell copy-paste the list from the post slouken made :9 |
| 14:56.41 | Grum | the 'swapping numberical values without using a temporary variable' .. go sneg__ ;) |
| 14:56.58 | Poul|Raider | Maldivia, ye |
| 14:57.11 | Poul|Raider | just setting it up as an enum |
| 14:57.17 | nevcairiel | lua> a = 2; b = 3; a, b = b, a; print("a = " .. a .. ", b = " .. b); |
| 14:57.17 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: a = 3, b = 2 |
| 14:57.18 | nevcairiel | i win |
| 14:57.19 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:57.53 | Grum | nevcairiel: print("a = " .. b .. ", b = " .. a); |
| 14:57.54 | Grum | easier! |
| 14:58.00 | nevcairiel | now thats cheating |
| 14:58.05 | Grum | ^^ |
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| 14:59.32 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(bit.band(0xa28, 0x8), 0xF) |
| 14:59.33 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 8, |
| 14:59.48 | nevcairiel | wonder why blizzard does it that way |
| 15:00.29 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(bit.band(0xa28, 0x200), 0xffff) |
| 15:00.29 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 512, |
| 15:00.37 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0xa28, 0x200) |
| 15:00.37 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 512, |
| 15:00.42 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(bit.band(0xa28, 0x200), 0x300) |
| 15:00.43 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 512, |
| 15:01.07 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(bit.band(0xa28, 0x100), 0x300) |
| 15:01.07 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
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| 15:01.16 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0xa28, 0x100) |
| 15:01.16 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
| 15:01.20 | nevcairiel | i dont get it :D |
| 15:01.40 | clad|office | well |
| 15:01.46 | clad|office | it seems like they're masking it to make sure they don't get any outliers |
| 15:01.57 | clad|office | not that it matters in this particular application |
| 15:02.11 | Grum | nevcairiel: whats the problem? |
| 15:02.35 | nevcairiel | its no problem, i just wondered why they AND against a "all bits set" mask |
| 15:02.51 | nevcairiel | all relevant bits anyway |
| 15:02.55 | clad|office | *shruggles* |
| 15:02.57 | nevcairiel | but yeah, it would just filter unwanted stuff |
| 15:02.59 | sneg__ | lua> a = -1; if bit.rshift(a, 31) == 0 then print(a .. " is positive!"); else print(a .. " is negative!"); end |
| 15:03.00 | lua_bot | sneg__: -1 is negative! |
| 15:03.08 | sneg__ | lua> a = 22; if bit.rshift(a, 31) == 0 then print(a .. " is positive!"); else print(a .. " is negative!"); end |
| 15:03.09 | lua_bot | sneg__: 22 is positive! |
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| 15:03.23 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0x1a28, 0x1000) |
| 15:03.23 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 4096, |
| 15:03.32 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0x2a28, 0x1000) |
| 15:03.32 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
| 15:03.54 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0x11a28, 0x1000) |
| 15:03.54 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 4096, |
| 15:03.59 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0x11a28, 0x10000) |
| 15:03.59 | sneg__ | will port bit print later :) cya all soon : 0 |
| 15:03.59 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 65536, |
| 15:04.12 | Grum | lua> 0x10000 |
| 15:04.13 | lua_bot | Grum: 65536 |
| 15:04.15 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.band(0x11a28, 0x20000) |
| 15:04.15 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0, |
| 15:04.18 | Grum | what are you doing nevcairiel ? :P |
| 15:04.29 | nevcairiel | playing around :P |
| 15:04.46 | Grum | reall? ;D |
| 15:04.57 | robotusch | ooh, new grid feature is nifty |
| 15:05.00 | nevcairiel | there should be a way to specify numbers in binary |
| 15:05.18 | clad|office | nevcairiel: what do you mean? |
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| 15:05.40 | clad|office | you can do it using tonumber |
| 15:06.03 | nevcairiel | like local number = b1010; number == 10 |
| 15:06.03 | Grum | robotusch: what new feature? |
| 15:06.11 | CIA-10 | 03kunda * r60946 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: .Babble-Faction-2.2: deDE update |
| 15:06.13 | clad|office | lua> print(tonumber("1010100011", 2)) |
| 15:06.14 | lua_bot | clad|office: 675 |
| 15:07.03 | Grum | nevcairiel: most people are happy enough doing it in hex |
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| 15:07.25 | nevcairiel | for bitmasks binary is just so nice and obvious what you mean :D |
| 15:07.27 | Grum | 4 times as compact :) |
| 15:07.41 | clad|office | well how often do you need to specify them? |
| 15:07.49 | Grum | you prolly make nice constants for em |
| 15:07.54 | Grum | or better, blizzard has done that |
| 15:07.55 | clad|office | i suspect its only once, in which case tonumber is cheap |
| 15:08.08 | nevcairiel | yeah i could tonumber if i really wanted to |
| 15:08.16 | clad|office | but as Grum says |
| 15:08.20 | clad|office | teh constants already exist :P |
| 15:08.25 | nevcairiel | or i just write the bistmask in a comment above the number and tonumber them when i need to change :P |
| 15:08.29 | clad|office | lol |
| 15:08.38 | Grum | what we prolly want to do is have a 'explain' function |
| 15:08.39 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:08.53 | Grum | that returns a list of 'what it meant' |
| 15:09.02 | nevcairiel | thats pretty easy |
| 15:09.10 | nevcairiel | you just have to assign a "name" to the constants |
| 15:09.24 | nevcairiel | and iterate over them |
| 15:10.45 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:11.04 | RaydenUni | what is WoA? |
| 15:11.15 | Grum | World of Agony! (dunno) |
| 15:11.23 | Maldivia | World of Azeroth? |
| 15:11.25 | [SW]Dodge | RaydenUni: Wakken open Air? |
| 15:11.25 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
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| 15:11.43 | [SW]Dodge | wacken* |
| 15:11.44 | RaydenUni | someone is saying it makes the shadowfiend do a lot more dmg |
| 15:11.53 | clad|office | wrath of air totem |
| 15:12.01 | [SW]Dodge | W:O:A - Wacken Open Air -> www.wacken.com |
| 15:12.04 | clad|office | and i suspect it would be true. |
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| 15:13.09 | Maldivia | if the air buff is gived directly to the pat, as well as the the % from the owner... |
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| 15:13.16 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 15:13.19 | Maldivia | hmm, wonder what Power infusion on a shadowfiend would do... |
| 15:13.22 | RaydenUni | it shows it to be an extreme increase |
| 15:13.26 | clad|office | Maldivia: it would be nice |
| 15:13.26 | RaydenUni | Maldivia they say PI helps |
| 15:13.31 | RaydenUni | as does stuff like BoM |
| 15:13.39 | clad|office | aye, we've used that in a few situations |
| 15:13.42 | RaydenUni | http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=7616 |
| 15:13.43 | Grum | it does shadowdmg afaik |
| 15:13.52 | RaydenUni | Battle Shout gives 820 extra mana (+120 if talented, +200 with solarian trinket) |
| 15:13.56 | clad|office | massive regen |
| 15:14.01 | RaydenUni | Heroism gives 1500 extra mana |
| 15:14.06 | RaydenUni | WoA totem gives 2500 extra mana [needs testing] |
| 15:14.12 | Pkekyo| | I'm running out of ideas for my UI...anyone got some? http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4793/baesjuiinactiveaq8.jpg |
| 15:14.12 | clad|office | RaydenUni: it does shadow damage, so i don't see why attack power would help |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-10 | 03chexsum * r60947 10CombatAlert/ (. CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc libs/): |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-10 | CombatAlert: |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-10 | - Added 2.4 compatibility |
| 15:14.23 | RaydenUni | it does melee |
| 15:14.39 | RaydenUni | 14 AP --> +1 dps |
| 15:14.40 | nevcairiel | ya but shadow dmg :P |
| 15:14.50 | clad|office | yeah its melee shadow damage |
| 15:14.52 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.52 | RaydenUni | -- [needs testing] 1 STR --> +0.53 AP |
| 15:14.58 | clad|office | but yeah i guess you're right, teh Ap is an increase in dps |
| 15:15.02 | RaydenUni | that's what these guys are saying on shadowpriest.com |
| 15:15.17 | RaydenUni | PI has to be cast on the pet, not the caster |
| 15:15.49 | nevcairiel | with all the buffs to mana regen, shadow priests run kinda short anyway =P |
| 15:16.08 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 15:16.20 | RaydenUni | fought Nazorakk for the first time last night |
| 15:16.27 | RaydenUni | ran out of mana right at the very end |
| 15:16.29 | RaydenUni | used 3 pots |
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| 15:16.38 | Grum | lol putting BoM on the priest? LOL |
| 15:16.43 | Grum | stop kidding me >< |
| 15:16.56 | nevcairiel | essentially only stupid mages need a shadow priest for sustained dps, and maybe elemental shamans |
| 15:17.04 | nevcairiel | healers shouldnt really need one |
| 15:17.17 | Pkekyo| | no fancypants ideas for my UI? :< |
| 15:17.18 | nevcairiel | at least i can sustain alot of heal without one |
| 15:17.18 | clad|office | indeed |
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| 15:17.37 | RaydenUni | <Grum> lol putting BoM on the priest? LOL <-- IF your pally had excess mana you could swap salvation for might temporarily? i dunno |
| 15:17.38 | Grum | nevcairiel: priests are the class that needs shadowpriests the most tbh |
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| 15:17.45 | RaydenUni | it's theorycraft so they have to take every situation into account |
| 15:17.52 | RaydenUni | i thought hunters liked us the best |
| 15:17.53 | nevcairiel | they shouldnt really, they only suck so bad at saving mana :P |
| 15:18.09 | Grum | paladins t6 geared cant go oom |
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| 15:18.32 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, ctrl+q is far too close to ctrl+w |
| 15:18.33 | Grum | druids have their own innervate and can sustain the rest of the time with pots |
| 15:18.35 | nevcairiel | i can run a full illidan with maybe one mana potion in p2, or alternative innvervate |
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| 15:18.48 | nevcairiel | priests suck at sustained healing when mana is short :P |
| 15:18.56 | Grum | yup |
| 15:19.01 | nevcairiel | priests have their pet |
| 15:19.07 | Grum | because they are expected to toss the big heals |
| 15:19.12 | Grum | which cost ~700 mana orso O.o |
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| 15:19.23 | syeren | chexsum, does CombatAlert do Parrot Icons yet? |
| 15:19.29 | nevcairiel | but thats why we only take like one holy priest |
| 15:19.29 | RaydenUni | resto druids are insanely efficient |
| 15:19.30 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:19.43 | Grum | RaydenUni: not at all |
| 15:19.47 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 15:19.51 | nevcairiel | we recently kicked one holy priest because he sucked, and filled that spot with a resto druid |
| 15:19.53 | Grum | they just dont have overhealcounts because wow doesnt broadcast em |
| 15:19.55 | RaydenUni | in my experience they never run out of mana |
| 15:20.01 | chexsum | nope |
| 15:20.05 | RaydenUni | talking about mana efficiency not overheal |
| 15:20.15 | chexsum | it works on ptr though |
| 15:20.16 | Grum | also depends what task |
| 15:20.22 | Grum | if you put em on MT only .. sure np |
| 15:20.22 | nevcairiel | Grum: druids already own healing meters, without overheal counting in =P |
| 15:20.25 | Grum | but dont let a druid raidheal :p |
| 15:20.41 | Grum | nevcairiel: they should but dont always (if they dont they suck imho) |
| 15:20.54 | Grum | the better the tank, the more the druid heals relative to others |
| 15:20.56 | nevcairiel | plus i can keep that up for a full fight |
| 15:21.03 | Grum | yup |
| 15:21.09 | RaydenUni | and i thought shamans were the master of raid healing overhealing efficiency :P |
| 15:21.11 | nevcairiel | give me a shadow priest, and i dont fall below 70% mana or so |
| 15:21.13 | nevcairiel | thats crazy :D |
| 15:21.25 | Grum | our paladin in full t6 didnt drop below 90% on illidan |
| 15:21.29 | Grum | that just wasn't fun |
| 15:21.36 | RaydenUni | yeah i've had wipe situations in kara where our druid wasn't even close to being out of mana |
| 15:21.39 | [SW]Dodge | table.remove(table,position) will position be the 'index'? |
| 15:21.40 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 15:21.43 | nevcairiel | i really tried going oom on teron with a shadowpriest |
| 15:21.49 | Grum | [SW]Dodge: table[index]=nil |
| 15:21.50 | nevcairiel | i couldnt get rid of my mana |
| 15:22.05 | nevcairiel | keeping all hots on gcd always |
| 15:22.07 | Xinhuan | did another za run today, failed 4th chest timer again :( |
| 15:22.16 | Grum | what order do you do the bosses xin? |
| 15:22.26 | Xinhuan | only did it with 2 healers though, you were right nevcairiel, itw as much faster |
| 15:22.35 | Xinhuan | nah we failed due to an accidental wipe |
| 15:22.36 | [SW]Dodge | Grum: thx :) |
| 15:22.39 | Xinhuan | when tank ran too far ahead |
| 15:22.41 | Xinhuan | on the eagel trash |
| 15:22.46 | Grum | auch |
| 15:22.49 | nevcairiel | eagel trash is ftl |
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| 15:22.51 | Xinhuan | lost like 6 min there |
| 15:22.53 | thul | I still want resilienceignorance on mutilate |
| 15:22.56 | Grum | nevcairiel: its horrible |
| 15:23.06 | clad|office | if you have a number (0,1) how do you negate it using arithmetic? |
| 15:23.06 | Grum | Xinhuan: what order? eagle->bear->dragonhawk->lynx? |
| 15:23.09 | clad|office | as opposed to conditionals |
| 15:23.12 | Xinhuan | ya that order |
| 15:23.23 | Grum | clad|away: max-num ? |
| 15:23.23 | nevcairiel | * -1 ? |
| 15:23.25 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 15:23.29 | thul | AND lack of position req |
| 15:23.31 | thul | :-) |
| 15:23.32 | Xinhuan | what do you mean, negate it clad|away? |
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| 15:23.38 | clad|office | if its a 0, make it a 1 |
| 15:23.42 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:23.42 | clad|office | if its a 1, make it a 0 |
| 15:23.47 | Grum | not ? :) |
| 15:23.48 | Xinhuan | x = (1 - x) |
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| 15:23.56 | clad|office | Xinhuan: thanks :P |
| 15:24.05 | Grum | or that xin ;) (what i said: max-num == 1-x) |
| 15:24.05 | clad|office | I knew it was something stupid :P |
| 15:24.11 | kadrahil | sorry guys, setting up colloquy on my mac |
| 15:24.19 | clad|office | <3 colloquy |
| 15:24.20 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:24.32 | RaydenUni | nevcairiel> eagel trash is ftl <-- i had never done this before last night, but a new guy suggested we all run up to the top and then die and let the shaman ankh. avoid the whole thing |
| 15:24.33 | kadrahil | i had been using screen+irssi in Terminal for a while but i wanted a change :) |
| 15:24.44 | Grum | Xinhuan: what route do you take from bear to dragonhawk? |
| 15:24.46 | RaydenUni | all my guildmates though tit worked great |
| 15:24.50 | nevcairiel | RaydenUni: exploit ftl :p |
| 15:24.55 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r60948 10sRaidFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs): sRaidFrames: Simple LibHealComm-3.0 support |
| 15:24.55 | Xinhuan | the standard route |
| 15:24.59 | Grum | left or right? (through the big flamecasterpacks) or the dragonhawk packs? |
| 15:25.02 | Xinhuan | clear the trash and hug left |
| 15:25.08 | Xinhuan | we go thru the flamecaster pack |
| 15:25.13 | kadrahil | i wonder if i'm the only person that hasn't stepped foot in ZA yet |
| 15:25.16 | Grum | i'm not sure if that is faster tbh |
| 15:25.20 | Xinhuan | we nuke the scout, MC the flamecaster |
| 15:25.20 | clad|office | kadrahil: I haven't |
| 15:25.23 | Xinhuan | and kill the guardian |
| 15:25.23 | nevcairiel | we do flamecasters too |
| 15:25.27 | clad|office | i haven't been in BT or KT tho |
| 15:25.34 | kadrahil | clad|office: i haven't either :) |
| 15:25.39 | Xinhuan | then when everything is dead, release mind control |
| 15:25.40 | clad|office | i haven't been to vashj, but went through most of SSC |
| 15:25.43 | Grum | we didn't make the 3rd boss on ~15 seconds :( |
| 15:25.44 | clad|office | then i moved to euroe |
| 15:25.48 | clad|office | europe |
| 15:25.49 | Grum | but we had 3 healers |
| 15:25.56 | kadrahil | clad|office: i haven't stepped foot in SSC, but i have killed void reaver a couple of times |
| 15:26.01 | Grum | of which 2+3 healed just as much as i did alone >< |
| 15:26.05 | Xinhuan | we finished 3rd boss with 9 min remaining, but if we didn't wipe on the silly mistake, it would have been 16 min |
| 15:26.09 | kadrahil | and i've been exalted with violet eye since the middle of last summer |
| 15:26.13 | Xinhuan | which is definitely enough for lynx |
| 15:26.25 | Grum | 9 minute to get to lynx? |
| 15:26.28 | Grum | that is short time tbh |
| 15:26.39 | Xinhuan | r? |
| 15:26.43 | Xinhuan | mt |
| 15:26.48 | Xinhuan | 16, |
| 15:26.51 | Xinhuan | we wiped on eagle trash |
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| 15:26.56 | Xinhuan | if we didn't wipe, it owuld have been 16 |
| 15:26.59 | Xinhuan | instead of 9 |
| 15:27.17 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: made up my own solution for the unequip gear thing in wowequip, i just saved a profile without any gear equipped :D |
| 15:27.19 | Grum | how does it work? how much time do you get after each kill? |
| 15:27.21 | Xinhuan | our tank was like |
| 15:27.28 | Grum | it seems that every boss gives another amount of 'extra' time |
| 15:27.30 | Xinhuan | "i'm gonna pull 2 packs eagle trash" |
| 15:27.32 | Xinhuan | then he runs forward |
| 15:27.37 | Xinhuan | and dies (out of range of heals) |
| 15:27.43 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 15:27.47 | RaydenUni | 10 min per boss i think |
| 15:27.56 | Xinhuan | you get +20 min from bear, +15 from eagle, +0 from dragonhawk/lynx |
| 15:28.05 | Grum | 0 ? omg |
| 15:28.08 | Xinhuan | so eagle->bear->hawk->lynx makes the most sense |
| 15:28.15 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:28.21 | Grum | that is also the shortest 'walk' |
| 15:28.27 | Grum | how do you clear from hawk->lynx? |
| 15:28.35 | Xinhuan | jump down |
| 15:28.37 | Grum | you have one pack @ the tree (non elite+1 elite), skip the patrol |
| 15:28.38 | RaydenUni | i want the blessings deck |
| 15:28.39 | Xinhuan | and clear the trash |
| 15:28.43 | RaydenUni | but i think it's too expensive for me |
| 15:28.47 | Xinhuan | the standard way |
| 15:28.57 | Grum | then you arae @ the repairhouse, go into the water, swim + pull the pack of 5 elites? |
| 15:29.00 | Grum | and move on? |
| 15:29.15 | Xinhuan | no, we clear the panther trash packs |
| 15:29.18 | Xinhuan | minimally |
| 15:29.25 | Xinhuan | and the croc packs, etc |
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| 15:29.37 | Xinhuan | no running around avoiding packs |
| 15:29.43 | Grum | you can skip the croc patrol left of the water |
| 15:29.46 | Xinhuan | just standard clear |
| 15:29.54 | Xinhuan | we don't even do that because its risky |
| 15:29.56 | Grum | and in what time do you get to lynx? |
| 15:30.08 | Xinhuan | we didn't make it in time, due to eagle wipe |
| 15:30.17 | Grum | did you make it once already? |
| 15:30.38 | Xinhuan | reached entrance with about 3 min left once |
| 15:30.45 | Xinhuan | but that run was too slow, with 3 healers |
| 15:30.51 | Xinhuan | can only bring 2 max |
| 15:31.14 | Grum | mm k, 2 healers, 1 prot paladin, one druid feral and 6 dps i guess would be best |
| 15:31.21 | Xinhuan | yes, we also killed hexlord and zuljin with 2 healers |
| 15:31.29 | Grum | but Hexlord is HARD with 2 healers |
| 15:31.36 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 15:31.42 | Grum | unless you have perfect CC with you |
| 15:31.43 | Xinhuan | replace the feral druid with a warrior for sunders |
| 15:31.54 | Xinhuan | that is prot |
| 15:32.04 | Xinhuan | we kill the dragon add, then the imp add |
| 15:32.06 | Xinhuan | then the boss |
| 15:32.11 | Xinhuan | boss died in about 6 spirit bolts |
| 15:32.13 | Grum | you kill the imp? mmm |
| 15:32.28 | Grum | so sheep+shackle? |
| 15:32.30 | Xinhuan | yes because Banishing it means it can't be rebanished unless it breaks cc |
| 15:32.33 | Xinhuan | so it is bad |
| 15:32.41 | Xinhuan | sheep and shackle can be renewed anytime |
| 15:32.51 | Xinhuan | so you renew the CC just before every spirit bolts |
| 15:32.56 | Grum | yeah lol i did that |
| 15:33.00 | Grum | and it still broke >< |
| 15:33.05 | Grum | bad luck :P |
| 15:33.33 | Xinhuan | renew more often ;p |
| 15:33.58 | Grum | the second the spiritbolts started my shackle finished casting and didnt get resist ^^ |
| 15:34.16 | Grum | ah well, i think the best thing to do is actually taking people that have seen all fights ;D |
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| 15:34.33 | Grum | not people that are ' OMG WTF THIS WALL OF FIRE KILLED ME ' at the dragonhawk ^^ |
| 15:34.33 | Xinhuan | because i'm frost spec, a ret pally beat me in total damage done over the full za zzzz |
| 15:34.41 | Xinhuan | i'm like MEH right now |
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| 15:34.47 | Grum | hahaha |
| 15:34.59 | Grum | frost is only nice in raids so it seems (and for pvp/solo ^^) |
| 15:35.20 | Poul|Raider | Maldivia, happen to know how to convert a string, the flag to the bitstream so i can use the & operater on it in c# ? |
| 15:36.10 | Poul|Raider | think i found it |
| 15:36.15 | Grum | Poul|Raider: you want to do: "0x1256" -> 0x1256? :) |
| 15:36.36 | Poul|Raider | ye, was but think i found it, Convert.ToByte(value) |
| 15:38.41 | RaydenUni | ouch |
| 15:38.49 | RaydenUni | 8 of blessings is going for 750g bid only |
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| 15:40.34 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: you probably want Convert.ToInt64? |
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| 16:10.27 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Ace3 in beta | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it. |
| 16:14.13 | kenlyric | sometimes I wish the sorting in arkinv was a little smarter |
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| 16:14.34 | kenlyric | wool can be skinned off of sheep, so it sorts under skinning instead of under tailoring or first aid |
| 16:16.03 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 16:16.09 | Xinhuan | wool can be skinned off sheep? |
| 16:16.20 | clad|office | yeah |
| 16:16.22 | clad|office | not always |
| 16:16.23 | clad|office | but yes |
| 16:16.31 | Xinhuan | you mean those lvl 1 sheep critters? |
| 16:16.40 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:16.43 | kenlyric | the problem is arkinv doesn't let you assign priorities. |
| 16:16.43 | Xinhuan | :o |
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| 16:17.05 | sb | heh |
| 16:17.10 | sb | 2.4 spirit change rocks :) |
| 16:17.12 | Xinhuan | why would wool be ever classified as a skinning item anyway |
| 16:17.12 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: sorry, no - won't need 64 bit for flags - its the guids that's 64bit :) |
| 16:17.24 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: because it can be skinned |
| 16:17.26 | Poul|Raider | Maldivia, ye figured |
| 16:17.32 | Xinhuan | but that's not the point |
| 16:17.44 | Xinhuan | no sane player will ever consider wool as a skinning item |
| 16:17.49 | keiss | sb: yeah , if the formula in StatLogicLib is right its a huge buff |
| 16:17.51 | kenlyric | but the game does |
| 16:17.56 | kenlyric | well, PT does |
| 16:18.10 | sb | keiss: its like ~48 MP5 for me |
| 16:18.14 | kenlyric | i'm assuming that's where arkinv gets its profession categories from |
| 16:18.20 | sb | (in fsr) |
| 16:18.47 | keiss | sb: anything above 180int = upgrade :) |
| 16:18.56 | Maldivia | sb: a restro druid with 521 int gained 193 mp5 OOC |
| 16:19.05 | Poul|Raider | but Maldivia, its nice this way, so easy to check, just flag & mask and check it for which of the 4 MINE|PARTY|RAID|OUTSIDER |
| 16:19.19 | sb | 193? hm |
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| 16:19.35 | sb | 158 for me (ooc) |
| 16:19.44 | Killmore | I gain 53 mp5 and 176 mp5 OOC |
| 16:20.01 | kenlyric | I wonder if I should give baggins a try again. |
| 16:20.23 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: yeah, and you can check if it's your pet/totem/trap etc aswell using the flags |
| 16:21.03 | Xinhuan | lua> (0.001+ 400*0.009327*(300^0.5))*5 |
| 16:21.03 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 323.1017576439 |
| 16:21.09 | Poul|Raider | ye, tho im just useing it for external parser so wont need that :D |
| 16:21.12 | Poul|Raider | but nice ye |
| 16:21.16 | keiss | ubuffed 160/48 for me |
| 16:21.26 | syeren | ckknight_, a few minor Pitbull errors. |
| 16:21.28 | sb | where do you get your numbers? :p |
| 16:21.29 | syeren | Pastey or? |
| 16:21.36 | sb | char copy successful? :/ |
| 16:21.38 | ckknight_ | syeren: list em |
| 16:21.47 | Poul|Raider | does the -- Special cases (non-exclusive) also work, so you can see the raidmarks on hitten targets? |
| 16:21.47 | ckknight_ | or pastey |
| 16:21.47 | ckknight_ | something |
| 16:21.50 | Maldivia | Poul|Raider: well, that info is also available in external parsing |
| 16:21.55 | keiss | sb: just using the formula in StatLogicLib |
| 16:22.04 | sb | ah hm okay |
| 16:22.17 | syeren | http://pastey.net/82038 |
| 16:22.40 | syeren | http://pastey.net/82039 |
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| 16:22.57 | syeren | http://pastey.net/82040 |
| 16:23.04 | Poul|Raider | in the old log, dint it say player1's some totem aswell? |
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| 16:23.35 | syeren | http://pastey.net/82041 |
| 16:23.42 | syeren | There you are ckknight_, that's all today :p |
| 16:23.45 | syeren | Nothing major though :p |
| 16:23.58 | syeren | Once again, these optimizations you're making are awesome :D |
| 16:24.11 | Xinhuan | ckknight, the libmobhealth4 doesn't convert bosses data from LMH3, because their level was recorded as -1 |
| 16:24.16 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60950 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix a bad typo with choiceOrder |
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| 16:24.31 | Xinhuan | (i think) |
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| 16:24.44 | Xinhuan | ckknight, the libmobhealth4 doesn't convert bosses data from LMH3, because their level was recorded as -1 (i think) |
| 16:25.42 | clad|office | another lib that's wrapping other libs? |
| 16:25.46 | clad|office | i thought we learned that lesson |
| 16:25.59 | clad|office | =/ |
| 16:26.20 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 16:26.21 | Xinhuan | no wrapping |
| 16:26.31 | clad|office | oh good |
| 16:26.36 | clad|office | that would make me a sad pands |
| 16:26.36 | Xinhuan | lmh4 can coexist with lmh3 |
| 16:26.52 | Xinhuan | its just that if lmh4 detects lmh3 exists, it copies and coverts the data over to the new format |
| 16:27.01 | Xinhuan | except that the bosses data didn't get converted |
| 16:27.18 | kenlyric | there's a lmh3? |
| 16:27.22 | kenlyric | i thought it was just mh3 |
| 16:27.35 | Xinhuan | yeah well mh3 is a library |
| 16:27.41 | kenlyric | it is? |
| 16:27.43 | Xinhuan | just doesn't have "lib" in front |
| 16:27.45 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 16:27.47 | kenlyric | I thought that was what CK was doing with 4 |
| 16:28.01 | Xinhuan | mh3 and mh2 never had frontend displays |
| 16:28.09 | Xinhuan | they are pure libs used by unitframe addons |
| 16:28.18 | CIA-10 | 03trasher * r60951 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: |
| 16:28.18 | CIA-10 | ClosetGnome_Mount: |
| 16:28.18 | CIA-10 | - frFR update |
| 16:28.28 | Xinhuan | it isn't "classified" as a lib only because it optionally maintains a SV |
| 16:28.30 | Xinhuan | so its not embeddable |
| 16:28.37 | kenlyric | so it's not a lib |
| 16:29.00 | Xinhuan | it is a lib technically, since all mh3 does is provide a API to other addons to use collected data |
| 16:29.11 | Xinhuan | just like Threat-1.0 |
| 16:29.21 | SunTsu | blubber2dings |
| 16:29.26 | SunTsu | fsck |
| 16:29.46 | SunTsu | Sorry, wrong window ;) |
| 16:29.56 | sylvanaar_work | fsck = bad day |
| 16:30.06 | sb | hah, your wow password? |
| 16:30.09 | kenlyric | wow tells me that threat-1.0 is a lib |
| 16:30.38 | kenlyric | and I always listen to wow |
| 16:30.55 | kenlyric | last month I figured out which mod was killing my PT3 sets, and now I don't remember :/ |
| 16:31.18 | ckknight_ | Xinhuan: hrm, okay, lemme fix that |
| 16:31.55 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60952 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - be able to convert data from MobHealth3 for bosses with level -1 |
| 16:32.12 | SunTsu | sb: It was a password of some kind, yes, but some low security stuff. Still changed it immediately ;) |
| 16:32.23 | sb | ah, irc! :p |
| 16:32.38 | SunTsu | No, even lower than that ;) |
| 16:32.49 | SunTsu | Else it's be more cryptic ;) |
| 16:34.08 | Fisker- | whats up with mobhealth4.0? |
| 16:34.40 | durcyn | the version number. |
| 16:35.03 | Fisker- | also |
| 16:35.03 | Fisker- | OLD |
| 16:35.06 | ckknight_ | Fisker-: what about it? |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker- | what's new? >:O |
| 16:35.52 | Fisker- | oh now i'm going to kill you Pkekyo| |
| 16:36.01 | CIA-10 | 03xinhuan * r60953 10Postal/Modules/Select.lua: Postal: - Fix infinite loop which hangs wow (tailcalls ftw) when trying to return "unreturnable mail" such as AV tokens. |
| 16:36.23 | Pkekyo| | no you're not |
| 16:37.10 | Fisker- | oh yes i did |
| 16:37.12 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: it supports focus and can now be embeded.. |
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| 16:38.01 | Industrial | ckknight_: why did you make a new mobhealth? |
| 16:38.06 | Industrial | wasnt the existing one good enough? |
| 16:38.11 | Industrial | couldnt you have just imporved it? |
| 16:38.15 | ckknight_ | Industrial: no, it wasn't |
| 16:38.18 | Industrial | couldnt you have worked together with the author? |
| 16:38.25 | ckknight_ | mostly, I wanted to be able to embed it |
| 16:38.27 | ckknight_ | also: |
| 16:38.28 | ven | didn't neronix quit long ago? |
| 16:38.29 | ckknight_ | ~seen neronix |
| 16:38.57 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 447d 16h 59m 41s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'. |
| 16:38.57 | Industrial | you had to do it yourself to make it zomgck'ed? |
| 16:38.57 | Industrial | fail, imo :| |
| 16:38.57 | ckknight_ | oh yea, I forgot that you're a troll |
| 16:38.58 | ckknight_ | nvm, then |
| 16:38.58 | Stanzilla | Industrial: lmh4 was made to be updated for 2.4 |
| 16:39.07 | Industrial | so update the existing one instead |
| 16:39.15 | Industrial | this is just MORE trash on the svn |
| 16:39.23 | ckknight_ | you're free to use the old one, I'm not stopping you |
| 16:39.23 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: and .. why cant 3 be updated for 2.4? |
| 16:39.24 | Stanzilla | wayne? |
| 16:39.26 | nevcairiel | i dont get it =P |
| 16:39.48 | Industrial | ckknight_: thats not an excuse |
| 16:39.49 | ckknight_ | there's benefits that 4.0 has over 3 |
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| 16:39.58 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: is the version number a real problem? |
| 16:39.59 | Industrial | and you just want to avoid the conversation ebcause you know im right |
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| 16:40.17 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: creating a new library out of everything just because of personal preference is one, yes |
| 16:40.30 | Industrial | team effort |
| 16:40.32 | Industrial | go! |
| 16:40.51 | ckknight_ | alright, I'm not arguing, you're free to think I'm wrong |
| 16:40.56 | Industrial | not "my addon lib is better then yourse" |
| 16:40.58 | Industrial | -e |
| 16:41.24 | Josh_Borke | but my addon IS better than your's Industrial |
| 16:41.26 | Industrial | yes, I am, and ill leave it at that because any kind of conversation with you about your addons is futile |
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| 16:41.51 | Industrial | lalala can't hear you, wonderful tactic. |
| 16:42.02 | keiss | hm, i just noticed the HC epic +11Hea/2MP5 gem doesn't have the +spell dmg element |
| 16:42.13 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: all our addons are better then Industrial's, but thats beside the point =P |
| 16:42.18 | CIA-10 | 03next96 * r60954 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: |
| 16:42.18 | CIA-10 | GatherMate: |
| 16:42.18 | CIA-10 | - Update locale koKR |
| 16:42.19 | Industrial | indeed |
| 16:42.43 | kenlyric | mobhealth has an author? |
| 16:42.52 | nevcairiel | ya it does |
| 16:43.25 | Industrial | ~lart Fisker- |
| 16:43.25 | purl | duct-tapes Fisker- to the floor and drools on him |
| 16:43.31 | nevcairiel | *screams |
| 16:43.33 | Gngsk | Neronix is back?! |
| 16:43.49 | Fisker- | >* |
| 16:43.51 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:44.39 | CIA-10 | 03hegarol * r60955 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 16:44.39 | CIA-10 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 16:44.39 | CIA-10 | - Sunwell update |
| 16:47.16 | Poul|Raider | Maldivia, 0x518 8 is outsider, 1 was friendly, the 5 was what? |
| 16:47.25 | Poul|Raider | ownership |
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| 16:48.28 | ckknight | damn connection |
| 16:48.41 | ckknight | oh, I should mention, on Friday, when Kaelten and I were eating assorted seafood, he said that a proper MobHealth library should be made |
| 16:48.42 | ckknight | just, by the way |
| 16:48.51 | Polarina | Awesome. My addons work on the PTR. :) |
| 16:49.17 | Xinhuan | wow, i'm going to recommend Cartographer_Mailbox to this guy |
| 16:49.18 | sb | i want my fucking char to be copied on the PTR :/ |
| 16:49.24 | Xinhuan | i've been sitting at the military ward mailbox |
| 16:49.26 | Xinhuan | for 30 min |
| 16:49.32 | Xinhuan | i told him i'll do an enchant for free |
| 16:49.34 | Xinhuan | if he comes to me |
| 16:49.39 | Xinhuan | and he's taken 10 min and still not found me |
| 16:49.43 | kergoth | lol |
| 16:49.52 | Recluse | invite to group, follow dot |
| 16:49.58 | Xinhuan | (testing stuff with mailboxes, postal etc) |
| 16:51.07 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHpjcZNM8_k |
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| 16:54.33 | Estil | man pvp honor farming takes ages without friends :( |
| 16:57.43 | _rane | i've been doing AV premades |
| 16:57.52 | _rane | lots of honor |
| 16:58.05 | _rane | sadly, wow's been very boring without friends |
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| 16:58.15 | Gngsk | make friends |
| 16:58.29 | Gngsk | /2 WTB friends PST |
| 16:58.35 | _rane | 90% of my realms' population is retarded |
| 16:58.48 | Erica | Is mobhealth 4 intended to be used with version 3 or is it supposed to work by itself? |
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| 17:00.24 | Recluse | is there a list of possible values for an itemid variations? (bear/beast/invoker) itemid:0:0:0:0:0:-##:## |
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| 17:00.43 | Xinhuan | yes, on wowwiki |
| 17:00.48 | Xinhuan | about 4000 of them |
| 17:01.02 | Xinhuan | only about 15 of them are valid of course |
| 17:01.03 | Recluse | you know what keyword to search on for that? |
| 17:01.05 | Xinhuan | for any given item |
| 17:01.09 | Xinhuan | "itemstring" |
| 17:01.45 | Kazie | Is it possible to swap position of Player and Player's Pet health/power with OnScreenHealth? |
| 17:01.50 | Xinhuan | note that the information on wowwiki, while interesting and given you 4000+ different suffixes, isn't very likely to be helpful to you |
| 17:01.58 | Xinhuan | gi'ves* |
| 17:02.00 | Xinhuan | gives* |
| 17:02.08 | Erica | Can you guys see when I type or do I scare you? :P lol |
| 17:02.17 | Recluse | i just need a list of like monkey = -5, bear = -7 is all |
| 17:02.28 | Xinhuan | there are about 60 versions of Monkey |
| 17:02.31 | Xinhuan | and another 60 for ber |
| 17:02.33 | Xinhuan | bear |
| 17:02.34 | Xinhuan | one per lvl |
| 17:02.43 | Xinhuan | good luck |
| 17:02.50 | Recluse | lol :) |
| 17:03.25 | Xinhuan | did i mention that negative number suffixes require math |
| 17:03.32 | Xinhuan | because the number actually has special meaning |
| 17:03.36 | Xinhuan | look it up on itemstring in wowwiki |
| 17:04.02 | Recluse | yep, found that page and the list pages it links to (lots of info |
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| 17:04.59 | Recluse | basically just wanted to craft links for (pre-validated) 'of monkey', etc items |
| 17:06.11 | Xinhuan | you will find this to be exceedingly difficult |
| 17:06.18 | Xinhuan | so no addon really has bothered to try |
| 17:06.24 | Polarina | It's too easy to reach the Sunweel Isle as a level 1... |
| 17:06.41 | Xinhuan | not as a gnome Polarina :) |
| 17:06.49 | Xinhuan | without external help that is |
| 17:07.20 | nevcairiel | bloodelf priest or pally and its easy |
| 17:07.32 | Recluse | Xinhuan: http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemRandomSuffix is what i was looking for... but not sure of the uniqueid portion of the link. perhaps just leave it as "0" |
| 17:07.47 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Blood Elf. |
| 17:08.18 | Xinhuan | yep but its still hard to generate the number you want, and make sure the server doesn't d/c you hehe |
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| 17:08.28 | Polarina | I think they should change it. My awesome graphic card (With constant 75 FPS gives 8 FPS because of the tons of corpses). |
| 17:09.03 | FrostByghte | is there a good replacement for omnicc? I've noticed it doesn't display the cooldowns on the pitbull auras a lot of time |
| 17:09.05 | Recluse | Xinhuan: yeah, this isn't a public thing, and will only be items i've seen anyhow, so that shouldn't be an issue |
| 17:09.34 | Xinhuan | maybe that's a pitbull issue rather than an omnicc issue :) |
| 17:09.49 | FrostByghte | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10654.0 |
| 17:10.05 | FrostByghte | I've noticed it for a few months now |
| 17:10.07 | Xinhuan | since the method used by omnicc encompasses every addon that uses <cooldown> frames |
| 17:10.17 | FrostByghte | ckknight? :) |
| 17:10.34 | FrostByghte | Ellipsis thinks it's omnicc |
| 17:10.45 | nevcairiel | OmniCC doesnt show the cooldown on frames if the frame is too small |
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| 17:10.53 | nevcairiel | because the number would be unreadable anyway |
| 17:10.56 | Xinhuan | well that too |
| 17:10.58 | nevcairiel | increase the size =P |
| 17:11.00 | Recluse | hah, yep, that does the trick =3 ty for the wowwiki keyword |
| 17:11.25 | FrostByghte | I put the percentage at 0, and the aura frames are larger than my bongos frames and they work on bongos |
| 17:11.57 | Xinhuan | there is a possibility that the cooldown frames exist |
| 17:12.01 | Xinhuan | but because of framelevels |
| 17:12.06 | Polarina | Wait a minute! If a priest (Level 1) can make it to the Sunwell Isle by healing when reaching out of fatigue, I can swim from Eastern Kingdom to Kalimdor without dying! |
| 17:12.08 | Xinhuan | the cooldown thingis BEHIND the texture for the icon |
| 17:12.17 | Xinhuan | this was an issue in some older addons |
| 17:12.19 | sb | Polarina: lol :p |
| 17:12.28 | Xinhuan | i.e the cooldown exists, but the framelevel was wrong |
| 17:12.40 | Xinhuan | so its behind and appears not to be shown and you think its not there |
| 17:12.52 | Xinhuan | so, i suspect its a framelevel issue with pitbill |
| 17:12.57 | Xinhuan | pitbull |
| 17:12.58 | nevcairiel | OmniCC's code is pretty much straight forward, it should work for all cooldowns |
| 17:13.00 | FrostByghte | hmmm.....well :) ckknight? :) |
| 17:13.01 | FrostByghte | lol |
| 17:13.26 | Xinhuan | i know that one of my addons didn't work until i realised its a framelevel issue |
| 17:13.28 | Megalon | Polarina: you can, until you hit the wall where the EK-instance ends ;) |
| 17:13.33 | FrostByghte | wasn't much of an issue when I had a hunter, but working on a lock now and it's a pita |
| 17:13.41 | Xinhuan | with omnicc |
| 17:13.48 | Xinhuan | because i tested for the presence of the frames |
| 17:13.48 | FrostByghte | they show randomly though |
| 17:13.52 | nevcairiel | i would recommend Quartz and its timer bars |
| 17:13.54 | Polarina | Megalon: Then there's GM Island. :P |
| 17:14.00 | FrostByghte | sometimes they are there sometimes they are not there |
| 17:14.09 | Polarina | Heh! I'm going to search for GM Island! |
| 17:14.15 | Xinhuan | well pitbull layouts often cause framelevel stuff to be weirdly behaving FrostByghte |
| 17:14.19 | FrostByghte | I have spellreminder up...but I find I like seeing things right on the target frame |
| 17:14.36 | Xinhuan | i don't know, its just a guess |
| 17:14.56 | Xinhuan | for most addons, layouts are fixed more or less, pitbull is just extremely customizable |
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| 17:15.23 | cncfanatics | Polarina: some people managed to reach it before, its in its own instance now |
| 17:15.26 | Ozguli | but pitbull is rather... heavy |
| 17:15.29 | Xinhuan | and i am i guessing the erratic behavior is a framelevel issue |
| 17:15.40 | Xinhuan | based on the creation of frames on demand |
| 17:15.53 | FrostByghte | man I like pitbull a lot...once I started to get used to it, I mean you can do about anything you want with it |
| 17:16.10 | nevcairiel | thats the problem :P |
| 17:16.18 | Xinhuan | yeah but with flexibility comes with the possibility of more possible things that can break |
| 17:16.41 | Polarina | It's raining more when raining - Awesome! :P |
| 17:16.59 | Xinhuan | personally, i've never heard of any addon having any issues with omnicc apart from pitbull |
| 17:17.05 | FrostByghte | true...but this has been an ongoing probablem since I started using pb, I don't ever remember omnicc working with the aura's...working well with them |
| 17:17.19 | Xinhuan | so i'll suggest its a pitbull framelevel issue, based on my experiences with it and code inspections |
| 17:17.58 | Polarina | And the water splashes when raining!!! |
| 17:18.08 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 17:18.11 | FrostByghte | okie...considering I'm not a coder at all :( who should I bother...I mean talk to in order to find a fix? |
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| 17:18.22 | nevcairiel | the author of the addon :P |
| 17:18.39 | FrostByghte | ya but ckknight is on again off again and ignores a lot |
| 17:18.42 | chiper | sigh, wowblues should indicate when a thread has been locked. then I could avoid all the whiner threads |
| 17:18.48 | nevcairiel | well good luck then |
| 17:18.59 | FrostByghte | I mean, I love him |
| 17:19.00 | rubik | i think he prefers a jira ticket anyway.. easier to track stuff that way |
| 17:19.12 | ckknight_ | FrostByghte: aw, I love you too |
| 17:19.15 | FrostByghte | :) |
| 17:19.22 | ckknight_ | but yea, use jria |
| 17:19.24 | ckknight_ | jira* |
| 17:19.25 | FrostByghte | okie |
| 17:19.36 | rubik | see? lurk_mode = off just like that. :P |
| 17:19.43 | FrostByghte | it was the _love_ |
| 17:20.14 | FrostByghte | actually let me test this out with another cooldown mod and see what happens |
| 17:20.17 | FrostByghte | might be the best bet |
| 17:20.38 | rubik | there are other cooldown mods out there? besides omnicc? |
| 17:20.53 | FrostByghte | Hourglass? |
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| 17:21.36 | FrostByghte | not sure haven't checked it out yet |
| 17:21.53 | rubik | ## Notes: Shows bars to help you track your cooldowns |
| 17:21.59 | rubik | looks like Hourglass == bars |
| 17:22.01 | Recluse | i use dotimers |
| 17:22.03 | FrostByghte | ah hell |
| 17:22.11 | FrostByghte | ya I have bars already |
| 17:22.55 | Neebler | is PitBull_AltAura still necessary to keep older machines from lagging when in raids? |
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| 17:23.28 | FrostByghte | I just switched to altaura to check it with the cooldowns...same thing, but I really like the customizing ability that was added |
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| 17:29.03 | FrostByghte | welp cooldowncount doesn't even try to show numbers with pb |
| 17:30.04 | syeren | ckknight_, around? |
| 17:30.08 | ckknight_ | sorta |
| 17:30.32 | syeren | Just a question regarding your new visual heal thingy ;p |
| 17:30.38 | syeren | http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2829/wowscrnshot021108172907kg9.jpg |
| 17:30.43 | syeren | Any idea what that's happening? |
| 17:31.02 | Industrial | Anyone use CogsBar on his shaman? I'm looking for a good way to do totems |
| 17:31.05 | Industrial | also, is there an equal number of totems of each type? 9? |
| 17:31.30 | Xinhuan | FrostByghte, that's because cooldowncount's method is to support addons manually (i think) |
| 17:31.38 | Xinhuan | rather than omnicc's generic encompass-it-all method |
| 17:31.42 | Stanzilla | syeren: that's what want when you enable VisualHeal |
| 17:31.58 | Xinhuan | trust me, i'm 90% certain its a framelevel issue :) |
| 17:31.58 | syeren | Pardon? |
| 17:32.15 | ckknight_ | syeren: I believe you're healing that warlock |
| 17:32.29 | syeren | Yeah, and I'm healing him for more health than his health bar with my rank 7 gheal? |
| 17:32.38 | syeren | When he has what, 14k hp unbuffed ;p |
| 17:32.42 | kenlyric | overhealing him quite a bit |
| 17:32.50 | ckknight_ | apparently so |
| 17:33.03 | syeren | Yeah, I'm healing him for 11k or something I would imagine from that visual indication, shame it hit for 5k. |
| 17:33.13 | ckknight_ | syeren: hrm |
| 17:33.21 | syeren | Or is it because he's not in my party? |
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| 17:33.25 | CIA-10 | - Fix for damage without source |
| 17:33.26 | syeren | On myself, it's perfectly fine. |
| 17:33.33 | ckknight_ | syeren: oh, if he's not in your party, it guesses his health |
| 17:33.36 | ckknight_ | probably guessed really low |
| 17:33.43 | syeren | Yeah, REALLY low xD |
| 17:33.49 | kenlyric | probably just guesses the naked default |
| 17:33.54 | syeren | Well that explains that thanks ckknight_ :) |
| 17:33.55 | ckknight_ | kenlyric: likely |
| 17:34.16 | syeren | [2008/02/11 16:46:44-638-x1]: ItemBonusLib-1.0-60788:769: attempt to compare nil with number --- |
| 17:34.20 | syeren | Someone needs to fix that :p |
| 17:34.21 | syeren | Annoying! |
| 17:34.36 | rubik | your heals are too uber |
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| 17:34.42 | rubik | unequip some +heal gear, imo. :P |
| 17:34.49 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:34.51 | syeren | I wish they were. |
| 17:35.48 | Recluse | Xinhuan: ah, i see the problem with this - if you have no uniqueid, you cannot calculate the stats for the item (resulting in +0/+0 item tooltips |
| 17:35.53 | Chompers | AceComm-2.0-59969 (Ace2):2218: attempt to call method 'GetLibraryVersion' (a nil value) ; when looking up versions of libhealcomm-3.0 in guild |
| 17:36.17 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 17:36.20 | Xinhuan | i thought it was something like that Recluse, hence it was too difficult to generate valid tooltips |
| 17:36.42 | cncfanatics | with AceOO currently, if I do Mixin.Whatever = {}; that will be the same table for all the instantiated objects, right ? |
| 17:37.05 | cncfanatics | or will it copy it ? |
| 17:37.14 | Recluse | sucks in a way, but i'll play with some math and see what i can come up with |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-10 | 03neolith * r60957 10Vibrant/Vibrant_locals_deDE.lua: |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-10 | Vibrant: |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-10 | - fixed UTF-8 encoding for deDE localization |
| 17:39.28 | cncfanatics | anyone knows ? |
| 17:39.48 | nevcairiel | Saroz: please, can you make LibHealComm optional? :( |
| 17:40.50 | Industrial | <Addon>_HealComm |
| 17:40.52 | Industrial | go! |
| 17:41.40 | Chompers | that works! |
| 17:41.42 | Chompers | i think |
| 17:41.46 | FrostByghte | ok, new jira PB issue posted here: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-237 |
| 17:41.51 | FrostByghte | w00t! |
| 17:42.26 | harck | why |
| 17:43.22 | kergoth | cncfanatics: unless someone changed something, it'll be the same table for all |
| 17:43.40 | cncfanatics | kergoth: ok, ty |
| 17:43.57 | Saroz | why nevcairiel? |
| 17:44.00 | cncfanatics | kergoth: means I'll create the table in the constructor for a different table for all :) |
| 17:44.02 | harck | why |
| 17:44.10 | nevcairiel | Saroz: because i dont want to run it? |
| 17:44.19 | Saroz | any reason why not? spyware? |
| 17:44.27 | nevcairiel | what do i get out of it? |
| 17:44.35 | harck | why |
| 17:44.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: said addon |
| 17:44.37 | nevcairiel | i dont have frame borders, i dont see stupid incoming heals |
| 17:44.43 | harck | why |
| 17:45.18 | kergoth | cncfanatics: indeed, if you want one table for each, you'd want to use the constructor to do it |
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| 17:45.23 | nevcairiel | CastCommLib always was optional, why not LibHealComm? |
| 17:45.25 | Saroz | nevcairiel, people see yours |
| 17:45.34 | harck | why |
| 17:45.51 | Saroz | nevcairiel, can make it optional, I suppose, or maybe make it not send data |
| 17:45.56 | Saroz | nevcairiel, but pitbull has it too, etc. |
| 17:46.19 | harck | why |
| 17:46.39 | nevcairiel | i dont see the point in others seeing who i am healing on, since i HoT most of the time anyway |
| 17:46.43 | nevcairiel | and i dont want to run that lib :P |
| 17:47.06 | Chompers | what type of info does healcomm provide? and would it fit into grid okay |
| 17:47.27 | harck | why |
| 17:47.30 | kenlyric | is it anything like incominghealslib? |
| 17:47.49 | harck | why |
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| 17:48.16 | nevcairiel | someone get rid of harck :P |
| 17:48.30 | harck | why |
| 17:48.34 | Chompers | there we go |
| 17:48.44 | harck | why |
| 17:48.54 | *** kick/#wowace [harck!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (because.) |
| 17:49.17 | cncfanatics | that was harsh :o |
| 17:49.28 | kergoth | :P |
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| 17:50.20 | syeren | Why did you kick him? He was only asking a question! |
| 17:50.45 | Chompers | 10 times |
| 17:50.45 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:50.55 | Kaelten | I'm confused too |
| 17:51.03 | [SW]Dodge | meeeh, i have a bug :( but i dont understand it... it appears randomly :X http://rafb.net/p/sVbEsB24.html |
| 17:51.08 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:51.21 | kergoth | he said 'why' like 12 times in the past few minutes, and nothing else, good riddance |
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| 17:52.02 | Kaelten | ;s |
| 17:53.44 | pastamancer | Saroz: don't give in! |
| 17:54.22 | sb | *sigh* and another illidan wiping day begins... :p |
| 17:54.28 | Saroz | pastamancer :p |
| 17:54.34 | Saroz | nevcairiel is <3, so I might! |
| 17:54.47 | Saroz | cant you disable the broadcast in LibHealComm? with a toggle |
| 17:54.59 | Saroz | should have that made |
| 17:55.05 | nevcairiel | i dont want to disable, i just dont want the lib :) |
| 17:55.12 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: why don't you though ? |
| 17:55.16 | pastamancer | nevcairiel: it's not for you :p |
| 17:55.17 | Chompers | can't wait to see it in action tonight |
| 17:55.26 | nevcairiel | pastamancer: i am a druid, i only cast instant spells :P |
| 17:55.27 | Saroz | same |
| 17:55.29 | Saroz | gogogo |
| 17:55.46 | pastamancer | then it won't send anything |
| 17:55.52 | nevcairiel | it still will run and parse |
| 17:55.53 | Saroz | u r fine |
| 17:56.00 | Saroz | you can see other people's heals |
| 17:56.01 | kergoth | meh, i need a new carrier. tempted to pull an office space |
| 17:56.02 | Saroz | thats nice |
| 17:56.09 | nevcairiel | i dont run a style with border |
| 17:56.13 | nevcairiel | because borders are fugly |
| 17:56.19 | nevcairiel | meh whatever, will just hack my local copy |
| 17:56.22 | Zariel | waht do you do atm Kergoth? |
| 17:56.25 | Saroz | new version you can have it right "Inc. heal" |
| 17:56.26 | Chompers | will it pick up healers who use macros to heal? |
| 17:56.33 | Saroz | yes |
| 17:56.37 | Chompers | and not directly selecting their targets |
| 17:56.42 | Chompers | that's pretty sweet |
| 17:57.18 | pastamancer | nevcairiel: LibStub:GetLibrary("LibHealComm-3.0").EventFrame:UnregisterAllEvents() |
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| 17:59.00 | [SW]Dodge | can someone help me with this error? it appears randomly. http://rafb.net/p/sVbEsB24.html |
| 17:59.06 | kergoth | Zarhan: software engineer, mostly linux kernel work, but occasional application stuff. |
| 17:59.41 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: that's a fun one |
| 17:59.46 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 17:59.55 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: it's caused by inappropriately altering the table you're currently iterating |
| 17:59.56 | Sais | cooldowns is borked? |
| 18:00.14 | ckknight | i.e. removing keys is fine, adding new ones is bad |
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| 18:00.48 | cncfanatics | mmm, while I think about it |
| 18:00.56 | cncfanatics | is tremoving something from a table you're iterating through risky ? |
| 18:01.26 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: thank you for the info then i think i know why it is :) |
| 18:01.27 | cncfanatics | I mean this code: http://www.pastebin.ca/900106 |
| 18:01.27 | nevcairiel | that was easy, like 3 ifs and 2 true's |
| 18:01.30 | nevcairiel | and its optional :P |
| 18:02.09 | ckknight | cncfanatics: you should also do i = i - 1 at the end, otherwise you'll miss parts |
| 18:02.33 | ckknight | cncfanatics: and actually, you'll get nils at the end, since #t is only calculated once |
| 18:02.45 | cncfanatics | sigh, irritating |
| 18:02.49 | pastamancer | ipairs |
| 18:02.58 | cncfanatics | so, i = i - 1; and break the loop on a nil ? |
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| 18:03.07 | cncfanatics | pastamancer: ipairs will also skip entries |
| 18:03.40 | pastamancer | oh, I see what you're doing |
| 18:03.48 | ckknight | what I recommend is more along the lines of: local i = 1; while i <= #t do if something then table.remove(t, i); i = i - 1; end; i = i + 1; end |
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| 18:04.02 | pastamancer | just breaking on nil should be enough |
| 18:04.20 | cncfanatics | ckknight: that'll also have nils at the end won't it ? |
| 18:04.24 | ckknight | no |
| 18:04.45 | ckknight | #t is recalculated each iteration |
| 18:05.21 | pastamancer | you shouldn't need to recalculate #t ever iteration |
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| 18:05.24 | cncfanatics | ckknight: ain't that overhead ? |
| 18:05.42 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/900112 this should do ? |
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| 18:05.49 | ckknight | breaking on nil will work just as well |
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| 18:06.08 | cncfanatics | on the above function: I should actualy localize Table[i] to win some speed on iterating, but thats about it |
| 18:06.35 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so I got some feedback in NRT. >:-) |
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| 18:07.43 | kenlyric | woowoo! |
| 18:08.17 | vhaarr | NeoTron: privmsg or forum, busy now |
| 18:08.42 | kenlyric | Mendelev is the thing mucking up PT3 sets. |
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| 18:09.02 | Ellipsis | kinda ironic |
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| 18:09.26 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60959 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 18:09.26 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 18:09.26 | CIA-10 | - Fixed bug where magic school for environmental damage wasn't passed on correctly |
| 18:09.26 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60960 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 18:09.27 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 18:09.31 | CIA-10 | - Debug statements cleanup |
| 18:09.33 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60961 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - typo do => then |
| 18:09.39 | ckknight | wow, CIA is slow |
| 18:09.57 | kenlyric | praise the lord, weep for joy, my long nightmare is over |
| 18:11.26 | Chompers | thanks ckk |
| 18:12.23 | evl | The laatest ace3 ag_uf is in branches right? |
| 18:13.55 | Chompers | good luck Saroz :) |
| 18:14.24 | Saroz | -.- |
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| 18:18.05 | kenlyric | odd... it appears to be all bulkmail's fault, since the pt3 sets show up fine in stuff like pt3 browser |
| 18:19.18 | Saroz | uhm |
| 18:19.23 | Saroz | someone force update of wowace.com/files |
| 18:19.24 | Saroz | plx |
| 18:20.05 | Saroz | pastamancer! |
| 18:20.29 | pastamancer | Saroz! |
| 18:20.36 | Saroz | force update of wowace.com/files :| |
| 18:20.37 | Ellipsis | it's going to update in like 2 minutes |
| 18:20.42 | pastamancer | is it stuck? |
| 18:20.42 | kergoth | does pt3browser work nowadays? last time i tried it it was erroring |
| 18:20.43 | Saroz | oh |
| 18:20.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:20.48 | Saroz | ah nm, timezone |
| 18:20.54 | Saroz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.56 | kenlyric | kergoth, seems to |
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| 18:21.13 | Saroz | pastamancer, can you force? |
| 18:21.22 | pastamancer | I'd rather not |
| 18:21.29 | Saroz | when does it update |
| 18:22.15 | pastamancer | minutes % 20 |
| 18:22.16 | Saroz | ty <3 |
| 18:23.32 | kenlyric | so I wonder if anything does what mendeleev does. or what bulkmail does |
| 18:25.04 | Ellipsis | what are you trying to do kenlyric? get rid of PT altogether? |
| 18:25.44 | kenlyric | no |
| 18:25.53 | syeren | pastamancer, whenever I start WoW I get this error: http://pastey.net/82051 |
| 18:25.56 | kenlyric | trying to have the functionality of bulkmail without these PT sets missing |
| 18:25.58 | syeren | Regarding Grid :p |
| 18:26.06 | kenlyric | so, either get something like bulkmail, or get something like mendeleev |
| 18:26.20 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: what PT sets missing? |
| 18:26.40 | kenlyric | various ones |
| 18:26.42 | Saroz | pastamancer, it's not bundling my Callbackhandler or libstub -.- |
| 18:26.45 | Fisker- | IM SIK ON TEHI NTENRETS |
| 18:26.49 | Ellipsis | you can literally comment out bulkmail's PT stuff and it won't cause issues other than not being able to create PT-based autosend rules |
| 18:26.52 | kenlyric | most easily spotted the Misc set entirely |
| 18:27.02 | pastamancer | Saroz: check ERRORS.txt |
| 18:27.04 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: yes, that's what I want |
| 18:27.10 | Ellipsis | if you have an issue with addons breaking PT you should probably report that though |
| 18:27.41 | kenlyric | it's not breaking PT, it's not using PT properly when mendeleev is loaded. And yes, hyper knows about it :) |
| 18:27.48 | kenlyric | I guess I could just not use pt sets |
| 18:27.55 | kenlyric | have a very long list of item names |
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| 18:29.22 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: is it mendeleev or bulkmail that's causing the problem? |
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| 18:29.45 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: it's bulkmail, but only when mendeleev is loaded and it appears to only affect bulkmail |
| 18:30.02 | Saroz | pastamancer, no errors, but not in zip |
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| 18:30.15 | kenlyric | I don't have any other pt3 mods to verify that, but pt3browser at least still sees all the sets. |
| 18:30.42 | [SW]Dodge | anyone knows if and where i can get a list of itemids+name for potions sorted by healpot/manapot/... ? wowwiki only have names |
| 18:30.54 | kenlyric | kergoth: it was updated six days ago with the dataminer |
| 18:31.00 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 18:31.01 | kergoth | thanks |
| 18:31.08 | kenlyric | 3.1 was |
| 18:31.31 | kenlyric | pretty much :) |
| 18:31.44 | pastamancer | syeren: did you log-in while dead? |
| 18:31.59 | syeren | No./ |
| 18:32.00 | syeren | Alive! |
| 18:32.15 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r60968 10sRaidFrames/ (embeds.xml sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Bundle my damn externals |
| 18:32.19 | syeren | And considering when my PC crashed last night, all of my Saved Variables deleted themselves. |
| 18:32.23 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:32.27 | syeren | It has nothing to do with my settings. |
| 18:32.37 | syeren | It's awesome how the only thing that gets deleted is my SavedVariables -_- |
| 18:32.51 | syeren | No idea why that happens :( |
| 18:33.01 | kenlyric | odd, I wonder which mod is still using PT3 |
| 18:33.07 | pastamancer | ranges should never be nil. it gets set in OnEnable |
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| 18:33.16 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r60965 10sRaidFrames/ (embeds.xml libs/ sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Correct externals and embeds |
| 18:33.22 | Saroz | old revisions! |
| 18:33.23 | Saroz | lol |
| 18:33.31 | syeren | Well I have no idea Pastamancer, like I said my Grid has no custom settings, all default :p |
| 18:33.48 | kenlyric | King of the jungle... fail |
| 18:33.53 | Saroz | pastamancer, can you see why it doesnt put LibStub or CallbackHandler into /libs please? |
| 18:34.00 | pastamancer | syeren: can you get it to error every time you log in? |
| 18:34.04 | syeren | Yes. |
| 18:34.04 | pastamancer | Saroz: I'll check |
| 18:34.10 | syeren | Every single time when I log in that error is there. |
| 18:34.11 | Saroz | pastamancer, thank you |
| 18:34.12 | syeren | For a couple of weeks. |
| 18:34.21 | syeren | Even with my custom settings. |
| 18:34.27 | syeren | Want my saved variable uploaded? |
| 18:34.34 | syeren | Or my install!? |
| 18:35.12 | syeren | It does it on every reload of my UI too. |
| 18:35.20 | syeren | Anything you wish for me to check on my side? |
| 18:35.20 | kenlyric | what do other people use to feed their hunter pets? |
| 18:35.31 | pastamancer | syeren: what other grid-related addons are you using? |
| 18:35.43 | syeren | Just Grid, don't have any plugins for it ;p |
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| 18:40.56 | maia | syeren: do you get an error with Gratuity-2.0 in it too? |
| 18:41.03 | syeren | Nope. |
| 18:42.22 | syeren | I do have Grid on Standby though. |
| 18:42.33 | maia | syeren: and if you do /script GridRange:ScanSpellbook() - what happenes? |
| 18:42.44 | pastamancer | ah |
| 18:42.49 | pastamancer | standby would do it |
| 18:42.55 | syeren | No error now it's not :p |
| 18:43.03 | syeren | Fixable pastamancer? |
| 18:43.04 | kenlyric | dogchow needs an update, obviously |
| 18:43.08 | pastamancer | yeah, already fixed |
| 18:43.10 | pastamancer | cia is slow |
| 18:44.25 | kenlyric | dogchow last updated 26 dec 2006 :/ |
| 18:45.03 | Saroz | pastamancer, works now, my bad, spaces are evil |
| 18:45.15 | pastamancer | Saroz: aha |
| 18:45.25 | kenlyric | KotJ last updated 15 july 2007. clearly a hole in the mod market |
| 18:45.46 | pastamancer | Saroz: I should add warnings though |
| 18:46.25 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: that's because hunters are dumb |
| 18:46.28 | Wogroipl | hmz, can I uninstall mobhealth 3 now? |
| 18:46.40 | Ellipsis | depends which addons you have using it |
| 18:46.47 | kenlyric | probably not |
| 18:46.50 | pastamancer | Saroz: where were the extra spaces? |
| 18:46.59 | Wogroipl | Pitbull is the only one I think |
| 18:47.00 | kenlyric | what she said |
| 18:47.01 | Saroz | trailing |
| 18:47.05 | pastamancer | ah |
| 18:47.17 | Ellipsis | pitbull and dogtag will use libmobhealth-4.0 fine |
| 18:47.22 | Wogroipl | should I run them together once? |
| 18:47.32 | Ellipsis | if you have saved data in MH3 |
| 18:47.35 | kenlyric | depends mostly on your unit frame, tooltip, and aloft |
| 18:47.38 | Ellipsis | it's not required though |
| 18:48.04 | kenlyric | what the heck are the things called that aloft modified? I've gotten too used to calling those the aloft frames ;/ |
| 18:48.07 | Wogroipl | I actuall don't know if it saved any data, gonna check now :) |
| 18:48.16 | kenlyric | you'd know |
| 18:48.28 | kenlyric | if you saved anything, it would use 15 megs of ram |
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| 18:49.08 | Ellipsis | saving data was an option disabled by default |
| 18:49.22 | Wogroipl | mobhealth.lua in savedvars is a 106 kb file atm |
| 18:49.23 | Ellipsis | libmobhealth-4.0 can import that data if it's running disembedded |
| 18:49.48 | Saroz | pastamancer, I'm ninjaing your version checker for healcomm! |
| 18:49.50 | Wogroipl | lots of mobnames and healthpoints in there :P |
| 18:50.23 | pastamancer | Saroz: it's so fancy! |
| 18:50.31 | Saroz | pastamancer, idd! |
| 18:50.33 | pastamancer | Saroz: add class coloring so I can steal it from you |
| 18:50.52 | Saroz | OKI! |
| 18:53.58 | FinalX | hm, I hear lots of people using pitbull, maybe I should give it a go as well :o |
| 18:54.18 | thul | I did not like it :-( |
| 18:54.19 | thul | :-P |
| 18:54.19 | kenlyric | no |
| 18:54.26 | kenlyric | it will eat your children |
| 18:56.03 | ckknight | FinalX: author's a real jerk, though |
| 18:56.05 | ckknight | gotta keep that in mind |
| 18:56.48 | FinalX | hence the name? :p |
| 18:56.59 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r60971 10Grid/GridStatusHeals.lua: |
| 18:56.59 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 18:56.59 | CIA-10 | * GridStatusHeals: it's not that health deficit has no 'k', but that heal amount has no '+'. |
| 18:57.00 | FinalX | its ok though, im a real jerk too |
| 18:57.37 | ckknight | the name? |
| 18:57.44 | Fisker- | haha wtf |
| 18:57.45 | ckknight | btw, I'm the author |
| 18:57.54 | syeren | ckknight is amazing. |
| 18:58.00 | ckknight | it's true |
| 18:58.04 | Fisker- | shadowbolt crit for like 5k |
| 18:58.05 | syeren | All he needs to do is do something about how auras are displayed! |
| 18:58.06 | ckknight | I'm working on a new addon now, actually |
| 18:58.08 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 18:58.09 | syeren | And then pitbull is finished! |
| 18:58.12 | ckknight | syeren: *sigh* |
| 18:58.13 | ckknight | syeren: true. |
| 18:58.28 | syeren | Pretty sure once that is done ckknight no one will bug you about the addon ever again. |
| 18:58.36 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 18:58.37 | ckknight | doubtful |
| 18:58.42 | kenlyric | auras? fail! |
| 18:58.47 | kenlyric | ebb or bust |
| 18:59.20 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r60972 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFramesHealing.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Now with HealComm version check (What? Grid has this too?) |
| 18:59.25 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r60973 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ButtonStyle.lua: Bartender4: mark dreamlayout overlay properly so it gets hidden for empty buttons |
| 18:59.40 | Neebler | bars as a way of showing buffs, is garbage! |
| 18:59.51 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 18:59.56 | kenlyric | don't make them bars? |
| 18:59.56 | Ellipsis | for most buffs, anyway |
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| 19:01.04 | kenlyric | most have a cooldown that I want to know... having the time printed right there is nice |
| 19:05.40 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60974 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - when saving data, go through and if you have more than 1000 points of data, remove any old data if possible. |
| 19:06.27 | rubik | more than 1000 mobs? are there that many? |
| 19:06.52 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60975 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - tweaking for efficiency |
| 19:07.52 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: how is BT4 comming along? |
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| 19:10.16 | [SW]Dodge | what pattern do i need to get the itemid from an item link? using string.find? |
| 19:10.34 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: still needs alot of stuff to be usable .. well its usable alright, but you cant access certain bars .. like pet, stances, mainmenu.. :P |
| 19:11.02 | Maldivia | hehe, ok :) |
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| 19:11.43 | Maldivia | Dodge, something like: string.find(str, "item:(%d+):") |
| 19:11.56 | cncfanatics | someone know from how much calls on its worth getting a local version of a global variable ? |
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| 19:12.28 | ckknight_ | an upvalue? |
| 19:12.33 | cncfanatics | local type = type; |
| 19:12.43 | ckknight_ | yea, an upvalue |
| 19:12.53 | ckknight_ | it's worthwhile in most cases, forget the numbers currently |
| 19:12.55 | ckknight_ | do your own tests |
| 19:13.13 | [SW]Dodge | Maldivia: yay thanks works :) |
| 19:16.00 | cncfanatics | well ckknight_, any global variable is actualy a table lookup ain't it ? |
| 19:16.44 | ckknight_ | it's an env lookup followed by a table lookup |
| 19:16.45 | cncfanatics | and with a local upvalue ? (I'm new to lua internals :p) |
| 19:16.45 | ckknight_ | O(lg n) vs. O(1) |
| 19:16.45 | cncfanatics | I understood nothing of what you just said :( |
| 19:16.45 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2008/012/7/f/piercing_closeup_by_inextremo.jpg (nsfw) |
| 19:16.45 | kneeki | That's an awesome pic |
| 19:16.51 | thul | i thought so too |
| 19:18.39 | kneeki | http://inextremo.deviantart.com/art/Pierced-Lips-37826099 (sfw) and awesome |
| 19:18.50 | mitchnull | cnc: sad |
| 19:19.10 | mitchnull | cnc: your only excuse could be if you're not a professional software developer :) |
| 19:19.12 | kneeki | I wish I would heal well after getting piercings, my body seems to reject everything |
| 19:19.29 | Saroz | ckknight_, Target's Pet possible? |
| 19:19.48 | ckknight_ | Saroz: no, that's not possible, no unit for that |
| 19:19.51 | ckknight_ | Saroz: sad, really |
| 19:20.13 | Saroz | idd, would be nice |
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| 19:21.12 | Josh_Borke | anyone mind creating a dwarf/gnome on Stormreaver and signing a guild charter for me? the name is Toastie |
| 19:21.13 | Josh_Borke | thanks!@ |
| 19:25.48 | Josh_Borke | goht all the signatures i needed, thanks |
| 19:25.59 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 19:26.01 | Ellipsis | I see how it is |
| 19:26.10 | Josh_Borke | aw, you 2 are the best, thanks guys :-) |
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| 19:26.35 | KsDra | Hey, does anyone know a mod that tracks debuffs that hit a raid? |
| 19:28.03 | maia | GridStatusRaidDebuff ? |
| 19:28.44 | KsDra | hmm never heard of it, sec, checking it out, does it 'hold' the debuffs until a reset? |
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| 19:29.42 | maia | KsDra: its a Grid module, so you'll need Grid for it. It'll show lvl70 raid related boss debuffs |
| 19:29.52 | maia | if that's what you've been looking for |
| 19:30.03 | NivFreak | it just does borders right? |
| 19:30.07 | maia | nah |
| 19:30.07 | NivFreak | by default at least |
| 19:30.18 | maia | NivFreak: I bound it to center icon |
| 19:30.26 | NivFreak | by default? |
| 19:30.36 | KsDra | well actually i've been looking for something to track debuffs that may or may not be known |
| 19:30.50 | maia | unimportant debuffs on border, important stuff as center icon. and as for default, I have no idea |
| 19:31.00 | NivFreak | ah, k |
| 19:31.06 | KsDra | i dont necessarily need to see in real time, just want it to record them so i know what they are |
| 19:31.44 | NivFreak | I use center icons for debuffs in general |
| 19:31.44 | NivFreak | so that's fine |
| 19:31.44 | NivFreak | I love it for arena |
| 19:31.45 | NivFreak | :) |
| 19:31.45 | maia | KsDra: oh, a db for raid debuffs that lets you review them? sounds like a nice idea |
| 19:31.45 | sb | yay |
| 19:31.45 | sb | content clear :) |
| 19:31.45 | sb | easy one |
| 19:32.48 | pastamancer | KsDra: /combatlog |
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| 19:41.47 | NeoTron | so rumor is old combat log addons are still working on the PTR using backwards compatibility stuff? |
| 19:42.07 | kneeki | I wish I could even get on the PTR to test my code =\ |
| 19:42.34 | pastamancer | kneeki: PTR down, queues, ? |
| 19:42.43 | kneeki | I can't trasnfer my char there |
| 19:42.53 | pastamancer | you can still login and create a new character |
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| 19:43.00 | kneeki | O.o |
| 19:43.00 | kneeki | oh? |
| 19:43.05 | pastamancer | yes |
| 19:43.09 | kneeki | lol |
| 19:43.11 | kneeki | Had no idea |
| 19:43.14 | pastamancer | :) |
| 19:44.43 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: |
| 19:44.55 | Zariel | Anyone know if hunter pets gain loyalty from pvp? |
| 19:44.56 | cncfanatics | can you tell Trevaria from your guild that evolve will be right back ? |
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| 19:45.43 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: done |
| 19:46.17 | cncfanatics | tell him he's a coward :p |
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| 19:47.02 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: open world pvp, no rules attached |
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| 19:47.03 | [Ammo] | ;) |
| 19:47.08 | [Ammo] | nothing is unfair |
| 19:47.09 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 19:47.15 | cncfanatics | tell him I'll be right back for more, with a chest this time |
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| 19:47.51 | Poul|Raider | anyone who have a wowcombatlog.txt from a raid on ptr? |
| 19:48.04 | Tuller | from the looks of things, does set profile not actually create a profile in acedb-3.0? |
| 19:49.02 | Poul|Raider | COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_OBJECT, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_GUARDIAN what are those for? guardian a gm maybe? |
| 19:49.04 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: is that druid still at the pond ? |
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| 19:49.58 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: dunno fighting illidan |
| 19:49.59 | Fisker- | Week <lost count> out of <lost count> |
| 19:50.04 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: fail |
| 19:50.07 | Fisker- | Still no healing shield from ZA or Magtheridon |
| 19:50.18 | Fisker- | Or KZ for that matter even though i can't be bothered anymore :( |
| 19:50.30 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: tell him he fails also for leaving |
| 19:50.51 | sb | http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdvillidanfullfv3.jpg <3 <3 done :) |
| 19:51.26 | cncfanatics | sb: I wish I could take that screenie |
| 19:51.28 | cncfanatics | I'm guildless :;( |
| 19:51.59 | zac | warglaive on the first kill? nice :P |
| 19:52.09 | Stanzilla | sb: awesome loot |
| 19:52.09 | sb | yes :) |
| 19:52.12 | sb | and my analog clock!! |
| 19:52.18 | Stanzilla | we never had so many good things at once .P |
| 19:52.30 | Aens|Superiority | heh, we got a pair of glaives in the first 4 kills. |
| 19:52.34 | [Ammo] | my analog clock :p |
| 19:52.44 | Pkekyo| | sb: what addonb is that? (the loot window) |
| 19:52.49 | sb | XLoot |
| 19:52.53 | maia | do either simpleMinimap or BasicMinimap have the option to hide the minimap? I'd like to replace it with Carbonite, but I still need a solution for the few minimap icons |
| 19:52.55 | Pkekyo| | also, gz |
| 19:52.57 | Zariel | My old guild had Warglaive on first kill |
| 19:53.02 | Pkekyo| | sb: it on the wiki? |
| 19:53.05 | Zariel | then on second kill they couldnt loot and msged a GM |
| 19:53.09 | Zariel | and got another warglaive |
| 19:53.12 | thul | i want both warglaives |
| 19:53.28 | Pkekyo| | I want PLONK |
| 19:53.30 | zac | both warglaives is nice. full haste gear + dual warglaives proc = insanely fast |
| 19:53.38 | thul | would do great for my hemo-spec in pvp |
| 19:53.39 | thul | :-P |
| 19:54.27 | Pkekyo| | zac: attackspeed 0.0001, anyone? :) |
| 19:54.34 | cncfanatics | btw, any guilds recruiting rogues atm ? :p |
| 19:54.36 | cncfanatics | horde side, EU :D |
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| 19:54.48 | Pkekyo| | mine might |
| 19:54.51 | Pkekyo| | not quite sure... |
| 19:54.59 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: my gear ain't the best though, kara/ZA level |
| 19:55.05 | cncfanatics | but I'm skilled (I say so myself, but meh) |
| 19:55.12 | Pkekyo| | the twats've picked up six additional fucking warriors, so I'd say it's a bloody free for all |
| 19:55.26 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: we're not out of kara yet : |
| 19:55.27 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 19:55.29 | Pkekyo| | well, they aren't |
| 19:55.32 | Pkekyo| | I don't do kara... |
| 19:55.35 | Fisker- | i'm gonna do it Pkekyo| |
| 19:55.41 | thul | hehe |
| 19:55.41 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: is there a future in your guild ? |
| 19:55.44 | thul | alliance side EU |
| 19:55.44 | thul | :-P |
| 19:55.45 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: do what? |
| 19:55.46 | thul | rogue |
| 19:55.47 | thul | :-D |
| 19:56.05 | Fisker- | Commit suicide :O |
| 19:56.06 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: well, yeah - we just reformed after a replacement GM paddled the entire guild up shit creek :> |
| 19:56.15 | Pkekyo| | the original GM is back in charge, and his goal is illidan |
| 19:56.35 | Fisker- | can't stop me |
| 19:56.40 | Poul|Raider | whats the diff from uint and int, signed and unsigned ? |
| 19:57.36 | CIA-10 | 03fleetfoot * r60976 10Nudge/ (Nudge.lua embeds.xml): |
| 19:57.36 | CIA-10 | Nudge: |
| 19:57.36 | CIA-10 | * Removed use of AceLocale. |
| 19:57.36 | CIA-10 | * Some whitespace chanegs. |
| 19:57.36 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: server ? |
| 19:57.36 | estala | should be, raider |
| 19:57.36 | cncfanatics | and why did you pick up SIX warriors ? |
| 19:58.05 | Fisker- | isn't uint unsigned? |
| 19:58.14 | estala | Yes |
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| 19:58.16 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: no fucking idea, we had more than enough allready...seems they don't want me to get any tankingspots :p |
| 19:58.17 | Fisker- | ok |
| 19:58.18 | cncfanatics | unsigned means there is no sign |
| 19:58.19 | estala | uint should be unsigned |
| 19:58.19 | cncfanatics | logical |
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| 19:58.23 | cncfanatics | unsigned ints are always positive |
| 19:58.25 | Fisker- | unsigned means that it goes from 0-some value |
| 19:58.29 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: bloodfeather EU |
| 19:58.32 | cncfanatics | and can instead of store -range +range store + 2* range |
| 19:58.42 | Fisker- | oh well |
| 19:58.42 | cncfanatics | let me rephrase that |
| 19:58.45 | Pkekyo| | it's a fucking ghost server, all the big asian guilds moved off just pre-tbc |
| 19:58.49 | Fisker- | cncfanatics doesn't suck as much as me explaining it :) |
| 19:58.53 | cncfanatics | unsigned ints can store from a range of 0 to 2 * range |
| 19:58.59 | cncfanatics | signed ints can store from -range to + range |
| 19:59.07 | Uhuru | Hi, i don't see raid channel since latest prat update |
| 19:59.18 | cncfanatics | Poul|Raider: was that clear ? |
| 19:59.30 | kbh | any pitbull experts in the hizzouse? |
| 20:00.06 | Poul|Raider | ye cncfanatics |
| 20:00.06 | Poul|Raider | basicly, unsigned can store double size if negativ aint needed |
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| 20:00.08 | Poul|Raider | so for guid i should use usigned iguess |
| 20:00.08 | Uhuru | someone can fix the bug ? |
| 20:00.17 | cncfanatics | Poul|Raider: yep |
| 20:00.25 | cncfanatics | range depends on your processor and compiler, for teh record |
| 20:00.45 | Poul|Raider | COMBATLOG_OBJECT_SPECIAL_MASK= 0xFFFF0000 , also gonna need uint to store that one |
| 20:00.50 | Poul|Raider | so think i got the idea of it |
| 20:00.57 | cncfanatics | Poul|Raider: for the record, what are you writing ? |
| 20:01.04 | Poul|Raider | a parser in c# |
| 20:01.08 | Poul|Raider | and ye ye |
| 20:01.09 | Poul|Raider | i know |
| 20:01.10 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 20:01.12 | Uhuru | heyho, need a bug fix for prat please ! |
| 20:01.47 | maia | hmm. i just realized every time I bid on an auction using Auctioneer's BottomScanner, my char does /wave |
| 20:01.56 | Corgan | Fail. |
| 20:02.06 | maia | plus, the 'ding' sound on found auctions has a dog barking in the background. |
| 20:02.34 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, convince em to make xml support for npc/spells at wowhead :) i need for my visuel presentation of the combatlog :D |
| 20:02.57 | Corgan | :p |
| 20:03.02 | Corgan | I'll see what I can do :) |
| 20:03.08 | Poul|Raider | good job :) |
| 20:03.08 | Uhuru | someone can fix prat please ? |
| 20:03.20 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: ping |
| 20:03.40 | Pkekyo| | plong? |
| 20:03.45 | Poul|Raider | but think i will just start by putting in links linking to wowhead and then color the links. But would be nice if they made something like the mouseover for items |
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| 20:04.16 | cladhaire | they have mouseover tooltips |
| 20:04.19 | Corgan | ^ |
| 20:04.21 | cladhaire | include the javascript, and ban |
| 20:04.21 | cladhaire | bam |
| 20:04.27 | Corgan | for items/spells |
| 20:05.50 | Poul|Raider | are there tooltip for spells as it is now? |
| 20:05.50 | cladhaire | oh yeah |
| 20:05.50 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:05.50 | Corgan | http://www.wowhead.com/?powered |
| 20:05.50 | cladhaire | my bad :P |
| 20:05.50 | Poul|Raider | i belived it was only items |
| 20:05.50 | kbh | so, is there a way to dupelicate a unit in pitbull? |
| 20:05.50 | Corgan | Upgraded to spells |
| 20:05.50 | Corgan | a little while ago |
| 20:05.50 | Poul|Raider | nice |
| 20:05.50 | Poul|Raider | did not know |
| 20:05.50 | cncfanatics | !c eu kazzak evolve |
| 20:05.50 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Orc Rogue (20/41/0). 7874 HP; 1825 AP; 395.400 Melee DPS; 21.04% melee crit; 230 melee hit; 26.66% dodge; 10 resilience;[[ TBR: 1194 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yus4em ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mk42h ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 15:14:17 2008 EST ]] |
| 20:05.50 | thul | !c eu balnazzar thyve |
| 20:05.50 | ThraeBot | thul: Thyve, Level 70 Human Rogue (16/3/42). 9754 HP; 1486 AP; 299.200 Melee DPS; 25.34% melee crit; 140 melee hit; 19.31% dodge; 202 resilience;[[ TBR: 1815 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25h6ep ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xqtjo ][ Updated: Mon Feb 11 15:14:40 2008 EST ]] |
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| 20:06.07 | Poul|Raider | But gonna be sweet with the COMBATLOG_OBJECT_RAIDTARGET[1-8] add icons in the combatlog to easy see who was hitting on what |
| 20:06.07 | Ellipsis | kbh: what do you mean? |
| 20:06.27 | kbh | like, if i have raid set up with a filter, can i make another raid with an "inverted" filter for a different set of raid groups? |
| 20:06.30 | Poul|Raider | still not sure about COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_OBJECT and GUARDIAN |
| 20:07.05 | Corgan | ? |
| 20:07.08 | kbh | like groups 1-5 in one style then 6 7 and 8 in a 2nd style |
| 20:07.26 | Ellipsis | I don't think there's any real way to do that |
| 20:07.29 | Ellipsis | but uh, why would you want to? |
| 20:07.44 | kbh | 6 7 and 8 are my sitting raider groups |
| 20:07.58 | kbh | stick them somewhere else organized by class instead of group |
| 20:08.25 | Corgan | Poul|Raider, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_OBJECT would be a source object doing damage to you |
| 20:08.27 | kbh | turn afk timers on for them |
| 20:08.46 | Corgan | something that isn't a targetable mob, or something like that |
| 20:09.01 | Poul|Raider | Corgan, figured that much just could not come up with an exsample |
| 20:09.13 | Poul|Raider | but cannons shooting you down from the air etc |
| 20:09.14 | Poul|Raider | i guess |
| 20:09.26 | Corgan | When you fail the simon game in BEM? |
| 20:09.29 | Corgan | possibly |
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| 20:09.39 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 20:09.48 | pastamancer | or just standing on a fire |
| 20:09.52 | kbh | OR, use pitbull for more fancy things, like make a dupe of the charicter frame and strip it down to just the full 3d model and stick it under my main frame or somewhere on the screen |
| 20:09.56 | pastamancer | or swimming in lava |
| 20:10.03 | dodga | Hm, Dock+ChatFrames = funky behaviour :o |
| 20:10.16 | Poul|Raider | most licky aint needing it for now in my parser, just gonna add the support for it and then make it write the event out in a debug file and then parse alot of logs to see what fall in the catagory |
| 20:10.19 | Corgan | GUARDIAN is anything with the guardian tags :p |
| 20:10.34 | Corgan | like...the yeti combat pet |
| 20:10.44 | Corgan | pretty sure that's a guardian |
| 20:10.45 | CIA-10 | 03saroz * r60977 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Put aggro into the statusbar |
| 20:12.14 | kbh | do the same with party frames and have the ease of use of pitbull and flexability but be able to produce more complicated UI |
| 20:12.56 | kbh | any ideas? or am i just shootin in the dark |
| 20:14.47 | Zariel | If you have 2 "for"s and break it does it break both or just the last one? |
| 20:15.30 | [SW]Dodge | as far as i know only the inside :) |
| 20:16.16 | Zariel | can you do a break; break |
| 20:16.18 | NightHawkAtWork | it will only break out of the loop that directly encloses the break statement |
| 20:16.22 | NightHawkAtWork | no |
| 20:16.27 | NightHawkAtWork | the second break will not be evaluated |
| 20:18.02 | Chompers | HealComm is pretty sweet |
| 20:18.14 | Chompers | wish it would show who's healing though |
| 20:19.56 | kbh | so pitbull suggestion: Frames filtered out should be placed under "Extra Units" and then configured independantly |
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| 20:20.23 | Poul|Raider | thx Corgan. This new combatlog is realy nice :) parsing is so easy and the flags are realy nice |
| 20:20.27 | Corgan | ? |
| 20:20.28 | Corgan | yes |
| 20:20.34 | Corgan | It's awesome :D |
| 20:20.42 | Poul|Raider | was just thx for the clarify of guardian |
| 20:21.17 | KsDra | question: is it possible to supress message output to your window in an case where you dont want to see all the spam you are sending out on a boss? |
| 20:21.33 | Poul|Raider | I end up with improved wws system before 2.4 thats for sure. But dont think i will get a portable parser written, so gonna be windows only for start :D |
| 20:21.34 | KsDra | suppress* |
| 20:21.41 | Trell_ | quick question, I've just renamed all my interface folders etc etc due to restarting with a new ui, but I can't remember what my mailbox mod was, all I can remember is that it was Ace, and that I could shift click to take items directly that had been sent, without going into the mail itself, and alt click to send an item directly without dragging it to my written mail if that makes sense - any ideas? |
| 20:22.55 | genetik | Postal? |
| 20:22.59 | Trell_ | thats it! |
| 20:23.03 | Trell_ | awesome, you rock, thanks. |
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| 20:23.23 | Poul|Raider | and within 2012 i can get 1gbit/1gbit internet for servers :D only 9999dkr/month 2k$/month etc |
| 20:23.48 | Poul|Raider | could get some kickass servers running on that |
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| 20:24.54 | KsDra | anyone know? |
| 20:25.16 | Uhuru | someone can fix prat please ? |
| 20:25.47 | haste | that will take months! |
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| 20:26.36 | Zenom | which addon puts the tooltip right by your cursor? |
| 20:26.48 | Chompers | cowtip? |
| 20:26.49 | Ellipsis | if that's all you want, LitheTooltipDoctor |
| 20:27.00 | Zenom | well i don't know the exact name for it |
| 20:27.09 | Zenom | but i see packages with a tooltip type mod |
| 20:27.17 | Zenom | that shows the users name, class, guild etc right at your cursor |
| 20:27.23 | Ellipsis | cowtip and others do a lot more than just anchor the tooltip to your cursor |
| 20:27.27 | Zenom | i installed mobhealth3 thinking that was it |
| 20:29.08 | KsDra | does anyone know if it is possible to suppress the output of sendchatmessage method on the local end, if i do not want to see me whispering others? |
| 20:29.42 | Zenom | cowtip was it, thanks |
| 20:29.54 | ulic | KsDra: I'm pretty sure it's possible, but I don't know how off the top of my head |
| 20:30.16 | KsDra | i know it is something simple but i cant remember it lol |
| 20:30.34 | Saroz | ckknight, is it not possible to have all raid pets in one grouping, instead of 8? |
| 20:31.09 | _neuron_ | [Ammo], next time your feeling bored, wtb support for custom sort routines in CandyBars, would be nice to group up my bars per target |
| 20:31.17 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.59 | Uhuru | need a prat fix please, raid channel is not visible since last update ... |
| 20:32.41 | genetik | revert |
| 20:32.56 | Uhuru | what ? |
| 20:33.19 | Chompers | raid chat is working fine |
| 20:33.23 | fleetfoot | Revert to an older version |
| 20:33.27 | CIA-10 | 03zariel 07Zariel * r60978 10AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua: |
| 20:33.27 | CIA-10 | AmmoGnome: |
| 20:33.27 | CIA-10 | - Works, rewrite |
| 20:34.35 | Uhuru | mine not |
| 20:34.49 | Chompers | is it ticked under 'channels'? |
| 20:34.59 | Uhuru | and i work fine when prat is desactivated |
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| 20:38.28 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60979 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - be sure to quite early if out of date |
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| 20:41.49 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: why do you upgrade like that in LibMobHealth-4.0? |
| 20:42.04 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight * r60980 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - round properly on :GetUnitHealth("unit") |
| 20:42.58 | CIA-10 | 037destiny * r60981 10PitBull/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 20:42.58 | CIA-10 | PitBull |
| 20:42.58 | CIA-10 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 20:43.32 | CIA-10 | 03fleetfoot * r60982 10Fudge/ (Fudge.lua embeds.xml): |
| 20:43.32 | CIA-10 | Fudge: |
| 20:43.32 | CIA-10 | * Removed use of AceLocale. |
| 20:43.51 | Polarina | Yippy! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493399642&sid=1 |
| 20:44.21 | CIA-10 | 03xbeeps * r60983 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 20:44.21 | CIA-10 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 20:44.21 | CIA-10 | - Added GetUnitVersion(unit) library call to enable querying the version of a |
| 20:44.21 | CIA-10 | specific unit. Version info is only available for grouped players or guild |
| 20:44.21 | CIA-10 | members. Works with any kind of UnitID including unit names and fully qualified |
| 20:44.22 | CIA-10 | unit names (i.e. "Name" or "Name-Realm") for cross-realm units. Always returns |
| 20:44.22 | Maldivia | Polarina: I'll believe it when I see it :) |
| 20:44.26 | CIA-10 | either a number or false. |
| 20:44.36 | ckknight_ | Josh_Borke: like what? |
| 20:44.51 | Paradox | how do I change the target HP Text in the latest pitbull? it's actual HP number now instead of % :( |
| 20:45.06 | ckknight_ | [PercentHP:Percent] will get you 12.3% |
| 20:45.34 | Paradox | where is that in the waterfall? |
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| 20:45.39 | Josh_Borke | hm,o not sure |
| 20:45.39 | Paradox | I've seen it before but I can't find it anymore |
| 20:45.42 | Josh_Borke | seems you are doing voodoo magic |
| 20:45.49 | ckknight_ | Paradox: waterfall? |
| 20:45.51 | Stanzilla | Pitbull with waterfall? |
| 20:45.52 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 20:46.05 | Paradox | yes? |
| 20:46.05 | ckknight_ | Paradox: go to Target -> Texts -> Health |
| 20:46.11 | Ellipsis | Paradox: go to your settings for the frame, go to texts, health, then select "percentage" in teh dropdown |
| 20:46.25 | Paradox | under target > texts there's nothing below that |
| 20:46.31 | Ellipsis | enable config mode |
| 20:46.55 | Ellipsis | or just target something first, if you're lazy |
| 20:46.57 | ckknight_ | or target something |
| 20:47.09 | Paradox | yeah i've got something targeted |
| 20:47.21 | Ellipsis | then close and reopen the target settings |
| 20:47.51 | Paradox | oh I guess the target has to be alive |
| 20:47.52 | Paradox | thanks ;p |
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| 20:49.06 | cladhaire | lol i love pvp servers |
| 20:49.16 | cladhaire | apparently that level 70 shaman really needed that iron vein |
| 20:49.34 | thul | DO YOU WANT SOME CHEESE WITH THAT WHINE |
| 20:49.48 | KarlThePagan | ^^ typical pvp server forum response |
| 20:49.52 | cncfanatics | cladhaire: what did you do ? |
| 20:49.53 | cladhaire | umm i'ma ctually saying, i love pvp servers |
| 20:49.57 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: died |
| 20:50.10 | cladhaire | i'm level 35, lol |
| 20:50.33 | KarlThePagan | sorry cladhaire the correct response is "I put him in my KoS list and will some day corpse camp him for 3 hours" |
| 20:50.51 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 20:51.01 | cladhaire | meh that would involve me giving a shit :P |
| 20:51.08 | KarlThePagan | ;) hah yea |
| 20:51.24 | KarlThePagan | KoS lists help me get over it when my alts get ganked |
| 20:51.47 | KarlThePagan | instead of immediately relogging on my main I think "aw... well it's ok some day I'll make them cry" |
| 20:52.05 | Ellipsis | and here I thought the correct response was "rerolled on pve" |
| 20:52.36 | cladhaire | pvp gives me an easy excuse to log off |
| 20:54.58 | Chompers | take this sexchat elsewhere |
| 20:55.03 | Chompers | dirty dirty sex chat |
| 20:55.20 | Ellipsis | you don't want to watch? |
| 20:55.24 | Pkekyo| | virgin :p |
| 20:56.01 | Josh_Borke | won't ckknight get jealous? |
| 20:56.08 | Pkekyo| | so? |
| 20:56.16 | Ellipsis | nah, Pkekyo| is norwegian |
| 20:56.19 | Ellipsis | it's not like he's a real person or anything |
| 20:56.45 | thul | norway > * |
| 20:56.47 | thul | mkey? |
| 20:56.49 | thul | MKEY?! |
| 20:56.53 | Pkekyo| | bwahah |
| 20:56.53 | ckknight_ | mikey? |
| 20:57.13 | Chompers | waaaaaalt |
| 20:57.15 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me...I need to buy a stab vest |
| 20:57.20 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 20:57.21 | Chompers | they took mah' boy |
| 20:57.38 | ckknight_ | Pkekyo|: kevlar's come a long way |
| 20:57.43 | ckknight_ | granted, that's not where I'd stab |
| 20:57.59 | ckknight_ | I'd come from behind, point the head down and perform a left-to-right slice along the neck |
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| 20:58.22 | Pkekyo| | not intended for protection from you, I just run a general risk of getting stabbed :p |
| 20:58.23 | ckknight_ | it's important to point the head down, because though most shows show the head being tilted backward, the windpipe creates a nice barrier |
| 20:58.44 | ckknight_ | by pointing down, you eliminate this barrier and are more likely to hit flesh |
| 20:59.00 | Josh_Borke | cut the femoral! |
| 20:59.09 | thul | turtle skin |
| 20:59.16 | ckknight_ | well it all depends on the situation, Josh_Borke |
| 20:59.48 | thul | knives are for pansies. |
| 20:59.50 | thul | guns are for me :-) |
| 20:59.56 | ckknight_ | please. |
| 21:00.07 | ckknight_ | killing someone with a gun is a half-second decision |
| 21:00.09 | Pkekyo| | well, thanks for reminding me of the need to get a stab vest :p |
| 21:00.14 | ckknight_ | no real thoroughness of the act |
| 21:00.18 | thul | I have three stab vests:P |
| 21:00.26 | Pkekyo| | thul: SHARE |
| 21:00.28 | thul | ckknight_: I have been trained to kill people for a living quite a few yers |
| 21:00.29 | thul | knives are for posers. |
| 21:00.39 | thul | :-) |
| 21:00.41 | thul | simple as that.. ;-) |
| 21:00.52 | ckknight_ | thul: what's your opinion on 6mm copper wire? |
| 21:01.04 | thul | 1) high risk. |
| 21:01.17 | thul | 2) high risk of capture/evidence containment-stuff |
| 21:01.21 | thul | 3) high risk. |
| 21:01.30 | NivFreak | high explosives > knives |
| 21:01.40 | thul | NivFreak: not really, low level of precision. |
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| 21:01.40 | Stanzilla | mini nukes > all |
| 21:01.42 | Chompers | ckknight_: coming for you while you sleep |
| 21:01.45 | NivFreak | thul: who cares? |
| 21:01.48 | thul | NivFreak: I do. |
| 21:01.52 | Chompers | so, be nice to him |
| 21:01.56 | NivFreak | ah, you've limited yourself then |
| 21:02.01 | thul | nopes :-) |
| 21:02.08 | thul | I have an explosive course:P |
| 21:02.14 | thul | but again, they are unaccurate, low level of precision. |
| 21:02.28 | thul | for its use? ok, for general use? no. |
| 21:02.47 | thul | shaped charges to blow doors? cool |
| 21:02.55 | thul | random throwing of semtex into a room? not so cool :-P |
| 21:03.04 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 21:03.11 | NivFreak | just use more explosives |
| 21:03.12 | Ellipsis | this channel needs less violence imo |
| 21:03.18 | thul | violence is fun. |
| 21:03.23 | thul | in controled forms that is :-P |
| 21:03.44 | Ellipsis | but you guys are scaring me :( |
| 21:04.15 | Pkekyo| | don't worry Ellipsis, you're female, someone will end up protecting you anyways :p |
| 21:04.44 | thul | Knive fighting is just too high risk |
| 21:04.47 | thul | that is my problem with knives. |
| 21:04.57 | [Ammo] | knive fights = prepare for cuts |
| 21:05.00 | thul | ofcourse |
| 21:05.05 | thul | and that is risky business |
| 21:05.09 | cncfanatics | Polarina: whats the result ? |
| 21:05.20 | thul | we use shock knives or paint-knives to practice |
| 21:05.28 | thul | and well, yeah.. cuts everywhere :-P |
| 21:05.54 | Pkekyo| | if someone comes at you with a knife - run like a motherfucker, they can't do anything 'bout it :p |
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| 21:06.03 | thul | Pkekyo|: groin kick |
| 21:06.03 | thul | :-P |
| 21:06.04 | [Ammo] | we used the wooden knives |
| 21:06.06 | [Ammo] | hurt like fuck too :p |
| 21:06.07 | thul | groin kickage always works. |
| 21:06.27 | Pkekyo| | thul: sure, the nearby knife is still a risk though |
| 21:06.32 | thul | that is true |
| 21:06.42 | thul | getting a knife in the leg is not so good |
| 21:06.56 | Pkekyo| | best form of self defense: run alot without shoes - you'll be able to get away no matter the circumbstances |
| 21:06.57 | thul | again: gun ftw. |
| 21:06.58 | thul | :-D |
| 21:07.13 | Pkekyo| | indeed, barret m82 from 1k yds |
| 21:07.18 | thul | hehe |
| 21:07.22 | thul | i have shot up to 1.2km |
| 21:07.23 | thul | it rocks. |
| 21:07.57 | Pkekyo| | sounds like fun |
| 21:08.36 | Pkekyo| | plonk > plank imo |
| 21:08.46 | RaydenU | plank is a piece of wood |
| 21:09.03 | Pkekyo| | thank you, captain obvious |
| 21:09.11 | RaydenU | woot |
| 21:09.14 | NivFreak | wow |
| 21:09.18 | NivFreak | they really nerfed mag eh |
| 21:09.21 | RaydenU | ? |
| 21:09.27 | NivFreak | 3 cubes, 3 channelers |
| 21:09.31 | NivFreak | 1 infernal per channler |
| 21:09.44 | Josh_Borke | good, i can get my champion of the naaru title in a pug |
| 21:09.46 | NivFreak | ceiling dmg reduced by 50% |
| 21:09.47 | NivFreak | no more cleave from mag |
| 21:09.48 | thul | CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ! |
| 21:09.58 | NivFreak | shadow bolt volley cast time is longer |
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| 21:10.08 | Pkekyo| | thul: reporting for duty |
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| 21:10.16 | Ozguli | no more cleave? how stupid |
| 21:10.17 | Polarina | OMG! The characters I created with the live client on the PTRs really got created even though I got the error!!! |
| 21:10.22 | thul | Pkekyo|:P |
| 21:10.31 | thul | Polarina:P |
| 21:10.35 | Pkekyo| | thul: did you ever get your hands on the g36? |
| 21:10.42 | thul | just briefly |
| 21:10.43 | thul | : |
| 21:10.44 | thul | :-( |
| 21:10.53 | sylvanaar | i want to see how they implemented the icon for GM chat |
| 21:11.05 | Pkekyo| | thul: how's it like? any fun? |
| 21:11.14 | sylvanaar | no GM's would respond =( |
| 21:11.22 | thul | Pkekyo|: light and plasticky |
| 21:11.23 | thul | :-P |
| 21:11.45 | Pkekyo| | it's only like 2,5kg unloaded, isn't it? |
| 21:11.48 | Polarina | sylvanaar: Good old slash /run (a.k.a. /script) |
| 21:11.51 | thul | something like that |
| 21:12.11 | sylvanaar | what |
| 21:12.15 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: look in the chat frame handler, |
| 21:12.23 | cladhaire | it'll be a {blah} most likely |
| 21:12.38 | Pkekyo| | wicked, can't wait to get hands on mine :p |
| 21:12.38 | Pkekyo| | love those transparent mags |
| 21:12.52 | sylvanaar | oh - i figured it would be in C so it couldnt be faked |
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| 21:13.28 | cladhaire | its probably like the rest of the font string icons |
| 21:13.37 | cladhaire | if i had to guess |
| 21:13.48 | cladhaire | but i could be wrong, that would be the best place to start looking |
| 21:13.49 | sylvanaar | yeah - that'd be neato |
| 21:13.49 | cncfanatics | I doubt its fakable |
| 21:13.56 | cncfanatics | if it is, then blizz failed hard |
| 21:14.06 | cladhaire | i didn't say it was fakeable |
| 21:14.18 | sylvanaar | putting icons in the chat its prety hard - i tried it once |
| 21:14.30 | cladhaire | well its easy now :P |
| 21:14.31 | cncfanatics | hard or impossible ? |
| 21:14.35 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 21:14.38 | cncfanatics | and how easy is it ? :p never tried |
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| 21:14.43 | cladhaire | ... |
| 21:14.48 | cladhaire | they gave us icons in font strings |
| 21:14.50 | cladhaire | this applies to chat frames |
| 21:14.53 | cladhaire | they are trivial to do |
| 21:14.59 | cladhaire | rtfpn :P |
| 21:15.04 | cncfanatics | share the knowledge ? |
| 21:15.11 | cladhaire | read the stickies |
| 21:15.34 | sylvanaar | well, thats neat |
| 21:16.01 | sylvanaar | i was extracting the code to look myself - settle down |
| 21:16.06 | RaydenU | what do you guys think makes for a good player? someone you'd like to run a pug with |
| 21:16.15 | cladhaire | I'm not not calm |
| 21:16.20 | Josh_Borke | they can listen |
| 21:16.26 | RaydenU | grr |
| 21:16.28 | cladhaire | I was explaining that they added that feature |
| 21:16.29 | RaydenU | losing interent |
| 21:16.57 | Pkekyo| | thul: you a bouncer? |
| 21:17.02 | Elsia | PTR account server down? |
| 21:17.05 | sylvanaar | yeah - thats cool - wonder what can be done with it |
| 21:17.22 | Elsia | nevermind, works now |
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| 21:17.58 | Thorgard | RaydenU, someone who has a lot of gold so they can pay for my repair bill. |
| 21:18.03 | ulic | RaydenU: follows direction, and knows how to play their class. |
| 21:18.16 | kenlyric | RaydenU: good players need to be able to listen, to pay attention during combat, and have the desire to learn on their own. |
| 21:18.23 | Poul|Raider | need someone that put all the stuff from the uipost on forum in one post, aka pain to find the enum type for the schools by browsing all the pages |
| 21:18.31 | sylvanaar | i must add support for it to my bloated chat mod somehow ;) |
| 21:18.31 | ulic | for example, a hunter that can chain ice trap fairly well. |
| 21:19.23 | sylvanaar | haha - you can so take the GM icon out |
| 21:19.34 | Josh_Borke | sylvanaar: prepend raid icon to appropriate messages |
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| 21:20.29 | sylvanaar | f ( arg6 == "GM" ) then pflag = "|TInterface\\ChatFrame\\UI-ChatIcon-Blizz.blp:18:12:0:-1|t " LOL |
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| 21:21.38 | cladhaire | why lol? |
| 21:21.43 | Vangual_ | hmm, is that syntax filtered out or an auto dc? :) |
| 21:21.45 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: is that the code ? |
| 21:21.48 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:21.56 | cncfanatics | thats so fakable ? |
| 21:21.56 | sylvanaar | s/f /if/ |
| 21:21.57 | cladhaire | why si it lol? |
| 21:22.06 | cladhaire | how is it fakeabke? |
| 21:22.14 | cncfanatics | get a stealth UI mod to do it if you whisper |
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| 21:22.23 | cladhaire | "stealth UI mod" |
| 21:22.25 | sylvanaar | client side |
| 21:22.30 | cncfanatics | client side its so fakable |
| 21:22.33 | cladhaire | yes |
| 21:22.37 | cladhaire | but how does that gain anyone anything? |
| 21:22.42 | sylvanaar | it doesnt |
| 21:22.46 | Arrowmaster | screenshots |
| 21:22.57 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: that's a good thing, in my opinion :P |
| 21:23.12 | cladhaire | means screenshots of GM conversations are no longer credible :P |
| 21:23.20 | Arrowmaster | they never were |
| 21:23.26 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 21:24.03 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 21:24.13 | cncfanatics | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(); > GM's |
| 21:24.42 | sylvanaar | Josh_Borke like <diamond icon> is sheep, etc? |
| 21:24.56 | cladhaire | {diamond} |
| 21:25.04 | cladhaire | ftw |
| 21:25.08 | sylvanaar | whats that |
| 21:25.21 | cladhaire | the syntax for sending the icons |
| 21:25.24 | cladhaire | the raid icons at least |
| 21:25.37 | cladhaire | this is all in the 2.4 changes thread |
| 21:25.43 | sylvanaar | oh, ok |
| 21:25.59 | cladhaire | quite handy |
| 21:26.22 | Arrowmaster | i think somebody might have said those werent working on ptr yet |
| 21:26.30 | cladhaire | aye the code isn't in the UI yet |
| 21:26.48 | Arrowmaster | ewww |
| 21:26.55 | Arrowmaster | theyre going to do it with the ui? |
| 21:27.00 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 21:27.05 | cladhaire | of course, why wouldn't they |
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| 21:27.44 | Arrowmaster | true i guess doing it server side or something could make the messages go over the character limit |
| 21:27.52 | cladhaire | there's just no reason to do it server side |
| 21:27.54 | cladhaire | the UI has to render it |
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| 21:28.34 | cladhaire | you can't send texture links to another player in a message, so they added the shortcuts, which I believe can be extended by addons |
| 21:28.46 | sylvanaar | hmm...neat |
| 21:28.48 | Arrowmaster | but it means every mod that registers for chat events will have to do it |
| 21:28.51 | cladhaire | so we can code {item:1234} to show the item texture |
| 21:29.13 | sylvanaar | that seems like it should be in the SMF implementation |
| 21:29.13 | kenlyric | man, my pet is losing happiness way too fast |
| 21:29.13 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: why.. |
| 21:29.16 | cladhaire | thed default ahndler does it |
| 21:29.33 | Arrowmaster | not everything hooks the default handler |
| 21:29.54 | kenlyric | 350 happiness in 10 minute standing still? |
| 21:30.00 | cladhaire | sure, if your'e going to REPLACE the default handler, you have to do it |
| 21:30.11 | cladhaire | but i've never agreed with that |
| 21:30.50 | sylvanaar | which handler ar you talking about |
| 21:31.06 | Arrowmaster | any handler that receives chat text |
| 21:31.15 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r60984 10InterfaceOptionsOptions/Options.lua: InterfaceOptionsOptions: Fix up the minimum size of the frame to be its current size as of load time. |
| 21:31.20 | Arrowmaster | including the raid_warning one |
| 21:31.38 | cladhaire | you're assuming an awful lot without looking at the code |
| 21:31.41 | evl | Is there no way to configure agUf more than the layouts? it just feels so limited |
| 21:31.45 | cladhaire | and doing it server side would be absolutely ridiculous. |
| 21:32.01 | Arrowmaster | they should do it client side before it hits lua imho |
| 21:32.16 | cladhaire | that's silly |
| 21:32.17 | sylvanaar | im looking at CF_MEH, and it has like 3 new lines of code |
| 21:32.19 | cladhaire | and not extensible at all |
| 21:32.28 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: the code for this isn't on the PTR yet |
| 21:32.41 | cladhaire | there's no good reason this shouldn't be in lua |
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| 21:32.48 | Elsia | ~seen Maldivia |
| 21:33.00 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 41m 47s, last said: ':)'. |
| 21:33.29 | Arrowmaster | they better provide a global function that does it then to make things easier |
| 21:33.36 | Maldivia | Elsia ? |
| 21:33.54 | Elsia | Mald: is the GUID completely decoded by now, specifically the leading bits? |
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| 21:34.20 | Maldivia | dunnno - I haven't had a chance to work at it today :) |
| 21:34.43 | Elsia | coolio ;) |
| 21:36.13 | sylvanaar | oh, ok - clearly there needs to be a chatlink type addon for tunneling arbitrary icons through (i'm just catching up...) |
| 21:37.01 | cladhaire | i don't think there's a need to be sending icons |
| 21:37.08 | cladhaire | except in limited circumstances, so I wouldn't agree with you |
| 21:37.20 | cladhaire | I think something like that should be handled by addons the RECEIVER has downloaded |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-10 | 03joshborke * r60985 10InterfaceOptionsOptions/Options.lua: InterfaceOptionsOptions: fix for bad type |
| 21:37.28 | sylvanaar | um - yeah |
| 21:37.29 | cladhaire | otherwise, we're going to have to have a "Strip all fucking icons from that damn other mod" |
| 21:37.32 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:37.50 | cladhaire | i.e. I want to add spell icons to my combat log |
| 21:37.52 | cladhaire | so i download that |
| 21:38.24 | sylvanaar | in order for it to work both sides have to support the format - just like chatlink |
| 21:38.50 | cladhaire | no, im' saying the sending of chatlinks is a bad idea |
| 21:38.52 | cladhaire | and i don't see much need fo rit, beyond the raid icons |
| 21:39.05 | cladhaire | of course to support the sending of chat icons, you'd need an addon on both sides |
| 21:39.21 | cladhaire | I just think its poopy |
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| 21:39.50 | Maldivia | cladhaire: the new combat log has support for raid icons :) |
| 21:39.57 | cladhaire | i know it does.... |
| 21:39.59 | sylvanaar | meh - who knows what uses ppl will come up with for it |
| 21:40.06 | cladhaire | that's not what we're talking about |
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| 21:40.13 | chiper | does anyone know of an addon that can hide the join/leave messages on user made chat channels? |
| 21:40.38 | sylvanaar | you can use it to bracket important text (instead of *** OMG ***) |
| 21:41.06 | chiper | I had hoped Prat would do it, but I cant find an option in any of the modules to do that |
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| 21:41.20 | Ozguli | does some ace addon show respawn timers? |
| 21:41.21 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 21:41.31 | sylvanaar | its called Filtering |
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| 21:42.31 | Arrowmaster | Ozguli: Incubator |
| 21:43.02 | Ozguli | ok |
| 21:44.05 | Parnic_ | So I have a HUD mod that uses StatusBar-derived widgets to display player mana and health and stuff. People have requested being able to click-target and right-click-menu on the bars, but I don't think I can because a statusbar can't hook secure functions, to my knowledge. |
| 21:44.18 | Parnic_ | is my best bet to put an invisible secure button on top of the statusbar to catch clicks? |
| 21:44.32 | Josh_Borke | Parnic_: no, inherit SecureActionButtonTemplate or whatever |
| 21:44.37 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth * r60986 10InterfaceOptionsOptions/Options.lua: InterfaceOptionsOptions: respond to the cancel button. |
| 21:44.46 | Parnic_ | a statusbar can inherit secureactionbutton ? |
| 21:44.51 | sylvanaar | You know - the icons will be cool for bigwigs actually, and maybe someone will do a loot icon to replace the current colored text with the same thing thats on the game tooltip |
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| 21:45.18 | snegoviK | woo finally |
| 21:45.19 | snegoviK | lua> function bit_print(n) str = ""; mask = bit.lshift(1, 31); for i = 1,32 do if bit.band(n, mask) == 0 then str = str .. '0'; else str = str .. '1'; end n = bit.lshift(n, 1); end print(str); end bit_print(8); |
| 21:45.20 | lua_bot | snegoviK: 00000000000000000000000000001000 |
| 21:47.35 | CIA-10 | 03pastamancer * r60987 10Grid/GridStatusHeals.lua: |
| 21:47.35 | CIA-10 | Grid: |
| 21:47.35 | CIA-10 | * GridStatusHeals: fixed typo that was causing heals on cross-realm units to disappear. |
| 21:47.38 | Elsia | lua> prrint(bit.tostring(8,2)) |
| 21:47.38 | lua_bot | Elsia: [string "prrint(bit.tostring(8,2))"]:1: attempt to call field 'tostring' (a nil value) |
| 21:48.19 | Elsia | lua> print(bit.tostring(8,2)) |
| 21:48.19 | lua_bot | Elsia: [string "print(bit.tostring(8,2))"]:1: attempt to call field 'tostring' (a nil value) |
| 21:48.30 | snegoviK | you suck :) |
| 21:48.44 | Elsia | lua> print(bit.tonumber("8",2)) |
| 21:48.44 | lua_bot | Elsia: [string "print(bit.tonumber("8",2))"]:1: attempt to call field 'tonumber' (a nil value) |
| 21:49.12 | Elsia | lua> print(tonumber("8",2)) |
| 21:49.12 | lua_bot | Elsia: nil |
| 21:49.26 | Elsia | i suck with pride ;) |
| 21:49.30 | snegoviK | lol |
| 21:49.35 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("10",2) |
| 21:49.35 | Maldivia | what aer you trying to do? |
| 21:49.36 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2, |
| 21:49.53 | Maldivia | convert from decimal to binary? |
| 21:49.57 | Elsia | trying to find if there is a short form of what snegovik wrote... |
| 21:50.26 | snegoviK | is there an equivalent of sizeof() in lua? |
| 21:51.11 | Maldivia | snegoviK: size of what? |
| 21:52.56 | snegoviK | sizeof(var) |
| 21:53.04 | snegoviK | sizeof(type) to be exact |
| 21:53.09 | CIA-10 | 03xbeeps * r60988 10sRaidFrames/libs/: sRaidFrames: modified external path for LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 21:54.28 | Maldivia | snegoviK: as such, no |
| 21:56.42 | sylvanaar | well - looks like the only conflict prat has with the combatlog is the timestamps - thats nice that all those messages arent in the chat stream anymore |
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| 21:56.54 | CIA-10 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r60989 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 21:56.54 | CIA-10 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 21:56.54 | CIA-10 | - fix operator precedence bug |
| 21:57.21 | chiper | sylvanaar: Filtering will hide those messages? |
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| 21:57.42 | sylvanaar | chiper yes |
| 21:57.49 | chiper | i'll have to look at that when I get home later |
| 21:58.13 | NivFreak | screen fails |
| 21:58.17 | chiper | will I have to make a search mask, or does it have it already there |
| 21:58.17 | sylvanaar | chiper Filtering/Filter Channel Leave Join |
| 21:58.28 | chiper | excellent |
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| 21:59.44 | chiper | now if only I could get prat to stop blocking EOI |
| 21:59.52 | sylvanaar | so will Ace3 move to the blizzard options panel? |
| 21:59.58 | sylvanaar | EOI? |
| 22:00.24 | chiper | EnhancedOnlineIndicator. it modifies guild and friend signon/signoff messages |
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| 22:00.43 | chiper | shows character level, class, location, notes, etc |
| 22:00.54 | chiper | since I installed Prat, it stopped working |
| 22:00.55 | Josh_Borke | sylvanaar: doubtful, there will probably be an addon that squeezes it in though |
| 22:00.56 | kergoth | sylvanaar: you can shove any frame into the blizzard options panel, and you can get the frame fro aceconfigdialog, so.. |
| 22:01.06 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: any news on taht front yet? |
| 22:01.21 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: yes, wait until i leave work you impatient bastard |
| 22:01.28 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:01.31 | chiper | heh |
| 22:01.46 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's a no-no for me |
| 22:02.28 | Ellipsis | work is for suckers |
| 22:02.29 | NightHawkAtWork | kergoth: "working". ;) |
| 22:02.37 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck won't youtube and google video play videos anymore if the page/tab they're in aren't in focus?! |
| 22:03.47 | sylvanaar | chiper um - it probably wont work with Prat since prat changes those lines too |
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| 22:06.04 | chiper | that's what I figured |
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| 22:06.38 | sylvanaar | chiper it could of course - but that'd involve cooperation |
| 22:07.08 | chiper | EOI isn't supported by it's author, I had to update it myself for 2.3.3 |
| 22:07.16 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 22:07.26 | chiper | what would be involved? |
| 22:07.46 | Antiarc | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/11/why-look-a-weighted-companion-cube/ |
| 22:08.29 | sylvanaar | chiper well, i can show you how to make it work, its pretty easy |
| 22:08.40 | Ellipsis | every once in a while Blizz does something to make me stop hating them for a few seconds |
| 22:08.44 | Ellipsis | that's a good one, Antiarc |
| 22:08.56 | Elsia | antiarc: will threat-2.0 be ace3 based? |
| 22:09.08 | chiper | antiarc: that's awesome |
| 22:09.25 | Josh_Borke | wtf should a library be ace3 based? |
| 22:09.55 | Elsia | let me elaborate |
| 22:10.08 | Elsia | i want to make recount ace3, but it currently uses threat-1.0 which is ace2 |
| 22:10.09 | Josh_Borke | s/ace3/libstub/ = happyness |
| 22:10.19 | Rayden | how often is the lunar fest? |
| 22:10.23 | chiper | sylvanaar: you still gonna be here in 4 hours when I get home from work? |
| 22:10.25 | Josh_Borke | once a year |
| 22:10.52 | Elsia | think threat-1.0 needs some comm stuff, right? so it depends on some comm lib |
| 22:11.00 | sylvanaar | chiper yeah probably |
| 22:11.03 | Elsia | and babbles of some variety |
| 22:11.09 | chiper | k, cool |
| 22:11.24 | Parnic_ | yeah threat has a lot of dependencies |
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| 22:11.38 | Parnic_ | or externals or what haveyou |
| 22:11.39 | chiper | I've been thinking of taking this thing over anyway, Ace it and add some features |
| 22:12.06 | Elsia | so I wonder if I actually make things worse by updating recount to ace3 when it depends on threat which in turn still depends on ace2 |
| 22:12.09 | ckknight_ | how do I convert .blp to .tga? I've tried two tools and neither work |
| 22:12.26 | sylvanaar | chiper well, you dont even need to add a dependency on Ace2, but you can if you want |
| 22:12.40 | NivFreak | ckknight_: imagemagik's convert? |
| 22:12.46 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 22:12.58 | sylvanaar | um blpconverter |
| 22:13.06 | Parnic_ | Josh_Borke: i don't think i can just make my statusbar inherit the secureactionbutton stuff. A StatusBar widget can't call RegisterForClicks and a Button widget can't use StatusBar texture/color/min-max values like i need |
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| 22:13.22 | sylvanaar | oh sorry - it makes png's |
| 22:13.44 | pastamancer | Parnic_: so create a frame that inherits from secureunitbutton and parent your statusbar to it |
| 22:13.45 | CIA-10 | 03ackis * r60990 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: |
| 22:13.45 | CIA-10 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:13.45 | CIA-10 | - Engineering update |
| 22:14.06 | Josh_Borke | then yes, you have to overlay with a secure button with alpha 0 |
| 22:14.19 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: you don't think that'll create the same problem as i'm having? |
| 22:14.30 | Parnic_ | i'm thinking i have to lay an invisible button on top of my status bar :P |
| 22:14.45 | pastamancer | you can lay it underneath as long as your status bar doesn't respond to clicks |
| 22:14.58 | Parnic_ | well yeah, under/over :). |
| 22:15.05 | Poul|Raider | DOH, looking over wws to see that i crited 12%under charsheet and had 3% ekstra misses :D |
| 22:15.16 | pastamancer | individual unit frames in grid are a secureactionbutton with a texture and two statusbars ontop |
| 22:15.19 | Parnic_ | as far as i can tell, statusbar are incapable of responding to clicks. if they can, then i might be able to avoid this whole mess |
| 22:15.43 | Parnic_ | yeah, that's essentially the same thing i'm looking to do...i just don't need a visible block behind my statusbar :) |
| 22:15.43 | Poul|Raider | but well, got a top2EU gorefind with 7healers, so wasent bad, but improvments for next week :) |
| 22:16.01 | pastamancer | so don't assign a background, or set the background to be transparent |
| 22:16.09 | Antiarc | Elsia: I'm working on Threat-2.0, which is Ace3. |
| 22:16.17 | Polarina | In ItemRefTooltip, opening a item link you do NOT have in your local cache, it writes "Waiting for server..." on the PTR. |
| 22:16.21 | Elsia | anti: ok thanks |
| 22:16.21 | Poul|Raider | that beeing with 5 peolpe who first got atuned to bt this week :D |
| 22:16.27 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: ok, i was just making sure that's my best option. it seems easier than reparenting a statusbar to me :) |
| 22:16.43 | sylvanaar | ckknight_ why do you want to convert a blp to tga anyhow? |
| 22:17.10 | Ellipsis | he's working on a new addon |
| 22:17.24 | Chompers | oooooh? |
| 22:17.31 | Ellipsis | he has some blp textures he wants to convert so he can edit them |
| 22:18.02 | Parnic_ | speaking of textures, how do you guys find paths to existing in-game textures? Is there a list somewhere or do you just crawl through the mpq's? |
| 22:18.17 | Parnic_ | like if i wanted to grab a spell icon and reuse it...how do i find out the Interface\UI\whatever path to it |
| 22:18.24 | sylvanaar | you can use blpconverter then just edit the png's |
| 22:18.52 | Ellipsis | Parnic: wowwiki |
| 22:18.57 | pastamancer | Parnic_: I'd make the secureunitbutton the parent of the statusbar. |
| 22:19.03 | sylvanaar | Parnic the interface kit |
| 22:19.25 | Parnic_ | thanks ellipsis/sylv |
| 22:19.50 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons |
| 22:19.55 | Ellipsis | have fun^ |
| 22:19.59 | Parnic_ | whee, thanks :) |
| 22:20.26 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: a StatusFrame widget can't call RegisterForClicks as far as i can tell...am i missing something? |
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| 22:21.39 | sylvanaar | they need to turn on the chatframe icons |
| 22:22.24 | pastamancer | Parnic_: you mean statusbar? |
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| 22:22.45 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: yes, statusbar. sorry |
| 22:23.34 | pastamancer | Parnic_: correct, only buttons can RegisterForClick |
| 22:24.44 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: so how do i capture mouse clicks on a statusbar widget? |
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| 22:25.13 | ckknight | Parnic_: OnMouseUp |
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| 22:26.00 | pastamancer | Parnic_: the statusbar is effectively "transparent" as far as clicks are concerned. because the statusbar itself does not registerforclick, any frame behind it that does registerforclick will receive the clicks |
| 22:26.03 | Aeyan | Hey ckk, is that fact that the square grouping on pitbull party frames expands from center by intention? |
| 22:26.12 | ckknight | possibly |
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| 22:26.36 | Ellipsis | there's already a jira ticket to change that |
| 22:26.41 | Aeyan | Yeah, I made it =P |
| 22:26.49 | Aeyan | That was a while ago though |
| 22:26.53 | Ellipsis | well it's still there :P |
| 22:26.59 | Aeyan | Not really a critical issue and I wasn't even sure if it was a bug |
| 22:27.08 | Aeyan | Figured I'd ask while I was thinking about it |
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| 22:27.37 | Parnic_ | pastamancer: right, so i'm back to putting an invisible button behind the statusbar, right? since even if i do parent a statusbar to secureunitbutton, i can't pull up the menu since it can't catch clicks. unless i'm just confused :( |
| 22:28.11 | pastamancer | Parnic_: yes, I would suggest putting an invisible button behind the statusbar |
| 22:28.29 | Parnic_ | ok, sorry for the confusion. i'm just making sure that's my best solution :) |
| 22:28.36 | Polarina | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493402255&sid=1 |
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| 22:29.47 | Elsia | when do I need CallBackHandler-1.0? |
| 22:29.57 | Elsia | in an ace3 embed? |
| 22:30.09 | Arrowmaster | its part of aceevent3 |
| 22:30.09 | kergoth | when the embed uses callbackhandler, perhaps? |
| 22:30.23 | Arrowmaster | well used by aceevent3 |
| 22:30.26 | sylvanaar | someone want to give me the lowdown on gpl and forking? or should i just google |
| 22:30.35 | nevcairiel | you need it for AceEvent, and optionally for AceDB if you want the callbacks |
| 22:31.07 | Elsia | thanks |
| 22:31.32 | Chompers | well into phase 3 on kael, good to see some progress |
| 22:31.34 | Chompers | :D |
| 22:32.09 | kergoth | sylvanaar: if you use gpl code in your stuff, it has to be gpl as well. which may not mean anything, if you dont distribute.. |
| 22:32.29 | nevcairiel | if you dont plan to distribute stuff, you can do anything =P |
| 22:33.08 | Ellipsis | which is why not distributing is so fun! |
| 22:33.19 | kergoth | pretty sure tehre are software licenses, EULA's in particular, that govern usage, not just distribution. |
| 22:33.22 | sylvanaar | kergoth i want to redistribute a version of WIM which uses Prat, Prat is gpl, so can I make Prat_WIM? |
| 22:33.34 | sylvanaar | WIM is gpl too |
| 22:34.04 | kergoth | of course |
| 22:34.08 | nevcairiel | not sure about gpl, if you're allowed to use the name and all |
| 22:34.12 | Elsia | hmm is there a libstub dewdrop yet? |
| 22:34.29 | kergoth | what's prat_wim going to do? |
| 22:34.44 | Diao | a version of wim that uses prat formatting |
| 22:34.45 | Diao | i assume |
| 22:34.50 | Diao | that would be amazing and i would totally use it |
| 22:35.50 | Arrowmaster | lol http://wowjutsu.com/us/burninglegion/Abstract our alts in my guild are total loot whores |
| 22:36.02 | sylvanaar | kergoth yes what Diao said |
| 22:36.19 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 22:36.45 | sylvanaar | kergoth its already been written for a while - i had asked pazza if he wanted to collaborate, but that never really went anywhere |
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| 22:37.23 | sylvanaar | kergoth im just merging up to the latest version of WIM, the current Prat_WIM is from the release prior to the current one |
| 22:37.51 | Thorgard | WIM? :o |
| 22:38.18 | kergoth | WIM is nice, it's come a long way |
| 22:38.45 | chiper | Polarina: tsk tsk, shame on blizzard for their lack of respect for the color blind. :p |
| 22:38.55 | sylvanaar | kergoth yeah it is nice |
| 22:39.20 | Elsia | or a libstub roster? |
| 22:39.23 | rubik | what is WIM? instant messenger or something? |
| 22:39.32 | kergoth | i like WIM_WhisperSelect, it can set it up so whispers from people you dont know go to normal chat, but guild/friends/whatever get wim windows |
| 22:39.36 | Thorgard | And it plays nice with Prat? |
| 22:39.42 | chiper | rubik: yes, it organizes whispers into individual windows |
| 22:39.47 | NeoTron | does WIM support chat tabs yet? |
| 22:39.54 | chiper | yes |
| 22:39.59 | Polarina | Good night. |
| 22:40.02 | NeoTron | then I might take a look at it again perhaps |
| 22:40.20 | chiper | you have to turn it on tho |
| 22:40.30 | chiper | by default tabbing is off |
| 22:40.52 | Elsia | hmm looks like I'm asking for hell trying to port recount to ace3 at this point :/ |
| 22:41.03 | RaydenU | is there a "hello world" tutorial for making wow mods? |
| 22:41.05 | Josh_Borke | yes, yes you are |
| 22:41.19 | chiper | RaydenU: several |
| 22:41.25 | sylvanaar | Thorgard it doesnt do anything with prat normally, but i just replaced the text redering function with prat's basically |
| 22:41.32 | chiper | infact I think there's an Ace Hello World tutorial |
| 22:41.35 | RaydenU | chiper link a good one? |
| 22:41.36 | sdouble | /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello world!") |
| 22:41.58 | Josh_Borke | an ace hello world tutorial does not a wow mod tutorial make |
| 22:42.17 | RaydenU | how about a wow mod one and an ace one |
| 22:42.37 | chiper | here's the ace one: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 22:42.45 | RaydenU | i'm planning on making a mod that will remember information about people and be able to share this information with other intances of itself |
| 22:42.55 | RaydenU | grr |
| 22:42.59 | RaydenU | more people need tutoring |
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| 22:43.12 | chiper | arent there already addons that do that? |
| 22:43.30 | RaydenU | that was odd... |
| 22:43.33 | sdouble | I believe he's wanting to learn instead of just do |
| 22:43.36 | RaydenU | she didn't need help |
| 22:43.45 | RaydenU | what i'm writing has never been done i don't think |
| 22:44.09 | RaydenU | perhaps been done technically, but functionally no |
| 22:44.50 | chiper | I seem to remember seeing an addon long ago that let people publish notes about individuals they grouped with, so others could see the feedback when building pugs. damn, wish I remembered the name |
| 22:45.01 | RaydenU | chiper that would be very useful |
| 22:45.11 | RaydenU | i want to build something like that but automated |
| 22:45.20 | RaydenU | so, remember please |
| 22:45.25 | chiper | I'm not in a good spot to look for it right now, web browsing is a bitch over VNC |
| 22:45.39 | chiper | I think it was on ui.worldofwar |
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| 22:45.42 | sdouble | haha, indeed |
| 22:45.54 | sdouble | anything is a bitch over VNC |
| 22:45.57 | Arrowmaster | that site doesnt exist anymore |
| 22:46.00 | RaydenU | that narows it down :P |
| 22:46.03 | Arrowmaster | its wowui.incgamers.com now |
| 22:46.07 | Arrowmaster | and that site sucks |
| 22:46.41 | chiper | yes, I said it as a reference for how long ago I saw this addon :/ |
| 22:47.57 | RaydenU | it's an issue of reputation |
| 22:48.02 | RaydenU | unfortunately reputation means something inwow |
| 22:49.06 | RaydenU | you guys have a basic wow mod tutorial you would recommend? |
| 22:50.06 | Pkekyo| | oi, RaydenU, fancy doing me a favour? |
| 22:50.13 | RaydenU | what's up? |
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| 22:51.22 | Pkekyo| | open up one tab (in zeh webbrowzar, bevoor zeh germanz arrive) with <random website>, then open a new tab go to youtube and start some video, then return to the first mentioned tab, and see if the video automatically stops itself after a sec or two |
| 22:51.28 | RaydenU | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 <-- this looks rather comprehensive actually |
| 22:51.55 | RaydenU | ok |
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| 22:52.00 | RaydenU | i know some flash players do that |
| 22:52.05 | RaydenU | i don't think it happens on youtube for me |
| 22:52.10 | RaydenU | no it doesn't stop |
| 22:52.13 | Pkekyo| | it's annoying the living fucking crap out of me |
| 22:52.24 | RaydenU | yeah it makes it hard to use youtube as a music player :D |
| 22:52.28 | Pkekyo| | what can I do to stop it? |
| 22:53.41 | Thorgard | Pkekyo|, switch tabs. *drumroll* |
| 22:53.42 | RaydenU | not sure |
| 22:53.54 | Pkekyo| | Thorgard: diaf |
| 22:54.01 | Thorgard | <3 |
| 22:54.39 | Pkekyo| | as I use tabs and alt-tab frequently, this is a bloody fucking nightmare for me |
| 22:55.08 | chiper | aha, found it RaydenU |
| 22:55.20 | chiper | Player Rating, it's on curse |
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| 22:55.24 | RaydenU | Pkekyo| update flash? |
| 22:55.44 | chiper | not exactly what you wanted, but close |
| 22:55.49 | chiper | might be a nice starting place |
| 22:56.25 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 22:56.37 | RaydenU | i think what i'm going to do would be more useful |
| 22:56.45 | RaydenU | and that one doesn't make my idea obsolete |
| 22:56.53 | RaydenU | but the technical parts of it might be nice to look at |
| 22:57.21 | RaydenU | ok |
| 22:57.21 | RaydenU | going to class |
| 22:57.21 | RaydenU | cya guys later |
| 22:57.22 | RaydenU | thanks chiper |
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| 22:58.14 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 22:58.14 | CIA-10 | - Removed obsolete GraphTextures embed |
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| 23:01.50 | Pkekyo| | thanks RaydenU, saved me |
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| 23:03.09 | Kivin | Is there a "Totem UI" in 2.4? |
| 23:03.40 | Poul|Raider | http://wowwebstats.com/x3hnrrqwaq33i?s=13509-13672 highest 7healer setup :) |
| 23:04.35 | CIA-10 | 03elsia 072.4 * r60992 10Recount/: |
| 23:04.35 | CIA-10 | Recount: |
| 23:04.35 | CIA-10 | - Added Parser-3.0 back in until Threat-2.0 is available (avoids error with Threat-1.0) |
| 23:04.37 | Poul|Raider | 5 peolpe who was on gorefind first time :) |
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| 23:06.07 | smoke_ | hey guys what would i use to cast something on my self with a modifier? wouldnt it be something like /cast [modifier:shift, target=self] Dispel Magic; Dispel Magic? |
| 23:06.11 | smoke_ | or is my target=self wrong? |
| 23:06.51 | smoke_ | nm |
| 23:06.52 | smoke_ | its player |
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| 23:10.11 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_shsRfXqk&feature=related bwahahah |
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| 23:15.11 | Poul|Raider | the school flag in the new combat log, anyone that can link which numbers match what schools, cant get forum to load |
| 23:15.25 | Poul|Raider | or match it on search |
| 23:15.55 | Elsia | poul: sec |
| 23:16.18 | Elsia | poul: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11294.0 |
| 23:16.47 | Elsia | 0x40 is arcane ;) |
| 23:17.37 | Poul|Raider | t |
| 23:17.38 | Poul|Raider | x |
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| 23:19.06 | CIA-10 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r60993 10Prat/WIM2.3/WIM.lua: Apparently I already merged with WIM 2.3 |
| 23:19.32 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, seen anyone post logs from ptr that can be used as refference to see some of the events? |
| 23:21.03 | Elsia | I have some logs yeah, can post if you want |
| 23:21.36 | Elsia | or you can make your own logs really easily. using the addon in that thread I linked above |
| 23:21.36 | Poul|Raider | ye, would like some. Makes it easyer to make a parser for the combatlog if i have something to see and parse on |
| 23:21.56 | Elsia | it writes to SavedVariables so you can just find it all there after playing a while. |
| 23:22.07 | Poul|Raider | why not just /combatlog then? |
| 23:22.08 | Killmore | Elsia: so recount for 2.4 is working fine ? |
| 23:22.08 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 23:22.33 | Elsia | killmore: as best I know yes |
| 23:22.39 | Killmore | nice |
| 23:22.56 | Elsia | Poul: because I'm like that ;) |
| 23:23.11 | Elsia | killmore: always looking for testers ;) |
| 23:23.57 | Killmore | Elsia: samething has usual, I dont have svn :( |
| 23:24.13 | Elsia | hmm |
| 23:24.24 | Elsia | I could make a zip and put it on curse :P |
| 23:24.49 | Poul|Raider | if you talking about log, ye would be nice |
| 23:25.06 | Poul|Raider | looking at my little 10line log, it dont seam to write the school flag as hex |
| 23:25.10 | Poul|Raider | just says 1 in mine |
| 23:25.38 | Corgan | arcane is 64 in the log |
| 23:25.41 | Elsia | it's not hex, it's just a number, but written as hex it makes it clear that they are used as bits |
| 23:25.51 | Corgan | ^ |
| 23:25.51 | Elsia | bit 1 is physical bit 64 is arcane |
| 23:25.54 | Killmore | Elsia: make a zip, and like it to me :P |
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| 23:27.02 | Poul|Raider | so if it was arcane, the log would write 64 and not 0x64 |
| 23:27.04 | Elsia | kill: trying a DCC send, working? |
| 23:27.10 | Poul|Raider | ox40 |
| 23:27.14 | Poul|Raider | 0x40 |
| 23:27.26 | Corgan | Right. |
| 23:27.30 | Elsia | it'll give you a number... you get it as argument from the event |
| 23:27.40 | Elsia | integers don't know representations |
| 23:28.30 | Elsia | killmore: got dcc-capable irc client? |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-10 | 03feu * r60994 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc): |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-10 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-10 | - Updated Notes-frFR in toc file |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-10 | - Updated some spell icons |
| 23:28.38 | CIA-10 | (hope I didn't break anything this time :/) |
| 23:29.15 | estala | is the current ace2 framework compatible for reading the 2.4 combatlog given correct event names? |
| 23:29.20 | estala | or is different functionality required? |
| 23:30.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:30.53 | Elsia | works fine with ace2, recount uses ace2 for the event |
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| 23:32.22 | Elsia | killmore: ptr recount zip here: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10598/download/46654/ |
| 23:32.35 | Killmore | k |
| 23:33.06 | Elsia | put in WoWTest/Interface/AddOns/ |
| 23:36.11 | Killmore | thx |
| 23:36.55 | NivFreak | oh nice |
| 23:37.01 | NivFreak | I'll have to try that out |
| 23:37.39 | Elsia | it only restores the old recount functionality so far, no use of GUID or spellIDs yet. That's coming up. |
| 23:40.49 | Elsia | kill: what activitiy caused that error? |
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| 23:43.48 | Killmore | hmm just running in mount |
| 23:43.52 | Killmore | but, look that |
| 23:44.14 | Elsia | must be an event in the surroundings you picked up then |
| 23:44.32 | Elsia | basically it's an empty spellName for some reason |
| 23:44.38 | Killmore | 2sec |
| 23:45.16 | SNiLD | anyone knows an addon that will track who i go into dungeons etc with? |
| 23:45.21 | Killmore | http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=recount01xd5.jpg |
| 23:45.36 | Poul|Raider | Elsia, "Your target is dead" for the failedType |
| 23:46.01 | Elsia | poul: thanks |
| 23:46.05 | kergoth | Elsia: looks like you forgot to embed babble-boss for threat :) |
| 23:46.17 | Elsia | ker: yeah i know :P |
| 23:46.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:46.43 | Killmore | Elsia: see ? http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=recount01xd5.jpg |
| 23:46.45 | Elsia | ker: trunk or branches? |
| 23:46.58 | Elsia | checking now |
| 23:47.03 | kergoth | your curse link, havent checked svn yet |
| 23:47.06 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:47.19 | Elsia | hmm interesting |
| 23:47.28 | Elsia | ker: ah thanks |
| 23:47.47 | Elsia | it's broken on the svn basically, I'll fix it asap |
| 23:47.59 | Killmore | I receiving this kind of crap probably from players arround me |
| 23:48.02 | Killmore | im doing nothing |
| 23:48.19 | Cryect | prolly windfury procs |
| 23:48.28 | Cryect | and earth shock :-p |
| 23:49.07 | Cryect | You have the death log working correctly already? wasn't sure if that would need to be converted into nice text or not |
| 23:49.17 | Cryect | wonder if my character copied over or not |
| 23:50.15 | Elsia | mine didn't. testing everything with a lvl 6 warlock kinda sucks |
| 23:50.34 | Cryect | yeah |
| 23:51.31 | Cryect | oh good mine has |
| 23:53.10 | Cryect | ah damn no talents trained again :-p |
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