| 00:00.11 | Pkekyo| | I'm off, g'nite all |
| 00:00.14 | Xinhuan | well its a cascaded error |
| 00:00.20 | Xinhuan | that happens because of a previous error |
| 00:01.01 | Elsia | alright I |
| 00:01.13 | Elsia | I'll just request that all bugs get posted then |
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| 00:02.23 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59699 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Don't show HuD in combat too. |
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| 00:04.21 | CIA-9 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59700 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: check if aUF.Options exist |
| 00:05.40 | chiper | gatherhud? wuzzat? |
| 00:05.52 | Camci | anyone here uses Opera? |
| 00:06.36 | Elsia | k, thanks xin, nite |
| 00:07.04 | Xinhuan | chiper: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp8.jpg |
| 00:07.06 | Xinhuan | chiper: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg |
| 00:07.31 | chiper | aww, that's not nearly as cool as I had hoped |
| 00:07.53 | chiper | well, ok, temp8 is |
| 00:08.06 | chiper | is that for gathermate? |
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| 00:08.42 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:09.53 | cyn | waht is the best clear font mod |
| 00:10.16 | chiper | I'm happy with ClearFont2 |
| 00:10.22 | cyn | thanks |
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| 00:14.31 | CIA-9 | 03merl 07Modules * r59701 10mHud/ (6 files in 5 dirs): mHud: Fixed ManaTicker++, broke text alpha. |
| 00:17.18 | Primer | Xinhuan: interesting screen shots |
| 00:18.13 | Primer | Xinhuan: recall that I had asked if it was feasible to create images using drawing primitives? How exactly are you drawing the routes? |
| 00:18.28 | Primer | well, not images, but...drawings... |
| 00:18.49 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r59702 10MBB/MBB.lua: MBB: added GatherMate to the ignore list for minimap icons |
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| 00:20.54 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 00:20.59 | Primer | I think I used up my question quota for today |
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| 00:26.11 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59703 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - change [IsFriend] and [IsEnemy] to return "True" instead of "Friend" and "Enemy". Hopefully no one complains too much, but if they do, they should use [IsFriend?Text(Friend)] and [IsEnemy?Text(Enemy)] |
| 00:27.11 | Primer | wow, I didn't know Lua was from Brazil |
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| 00:42.11 | potemkin | does rock do that autogui generator for options |
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| 00:47.47 | DrMcNasty | good day everyone |
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| 00:49.10 | DrMcNasty | can anyone point me in the direction of making a GUI for an addon I have started to write? I was looking and reading online and it would seem ACEGUI is dead. |
| 00:49.30 | Stanzilla | AceGUI-3.0 |
| 00:49.37 | DrMcNasty | acegui lives? |
| 00:49.50 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 00:50.04 | DrMcNasty | why can I not seem to fine it on wowace.com? |
| 00:50.14 | Stanzilla | it's in branches |
| 00:50.22 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.18 | potemkin | is there a way to make a playermodel stay at SetCamera(0) without using onupdate |
| 01:00.03 | DrMcNasty | hmm cant seem to find anything about gui 3.0 though ... |
| 01:00.11 | DrMcNasty | never done one so I am learning it from scratch |
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| 01:09.29 | aestil | is wws 'right' for RoS? I don't understand what I'm looking at? |
| 01:09.44 | aestil | buu: RoS down on second night of trys. also, i'm raiding again. |
| 01:11.25 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59704 10NRT/ (8 files in 3 dirs): NRT: Re-import. We're back, baby! |
| 01:11.45 | aestil | hey :) |
| 01:11.56 | Ellipsis | hay yuo |
| 01:12.08 | aestil | autobar is completely impossible with my UI. how wierd is that? |
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| 01:13.09 | Ellipsis | I find autobar to be impossible in general |
| 01:13.13 | Ellipsis | so I would say not very weird |
| 01:13.14 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: you wrote an addon for nihilum? |
| 01:13.26 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: yes, why? |
| 01:13.29 | vhaarr | long time ago |
| 01:13.33 | vhaarr | it just hasn't been on wowace |
| 01:13.33 | Stanzilla | hm dunno |
| 01:13.42 | aestil | haha, we rolled over Vashj last night with a flasked up group fresh off a RoS kill. so, I regened 20,999 mana for everyone in my group [3 mages and a elemental shaman] |
| 01:13.47 | aestil | thats not at all overpowered. |
| 01:13.52 | aestil | I hate my class. |
| 01:13.53 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: did you raid with nihilum? |
| 01:14.01 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: what do you want? |
| 01:14.18 | Stanzilla | I want to know if you were/are a part of nihilum^^ |
| 01:14.32 | Stanzilla | or member..whatever |
| 01:14.35 | vhaarr | none of your business |
| 01:14.36 | aestil | vhaarr = rabbit right? |
| 01:14.39 | vhaarr | y |
| 01:16.33 | aestil | 3 bosses left in the game. wierd feeling. |
| 01:16.40 | buu | AESTIL YOU ARE BAD. |
| 01:16.41 | aestil | sunwell needs to come out soon. |
| 01:16.59 | buu | Ellipsis: Are you a female human warlock in some terrible guild made of drama? |
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| 01:17.21 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59705 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: svn:keywords set. |
| 01:17.23 | aestil | buu: she's a female human warlock. what is this drama you speak of? |
| 01:17.34 | buu | aestil: I was reading wowinsider and it looked to some random guild drama. |
| 01:17.43 | buu | And I saw an ellipsis! |
| 01:17.44 | Ellipsis | drama? |
| 01:17.44 | aestil | buu: you are in pandora? |
| 01:17.49 | buu | aestil: No |
| 01:17.56 | Ellipsis | I don't know if my guild has drama |
| 01:17.59 | Ellipsis | I haven't been on WoW in a week |
| 01:18.09 | buu | Ellipsis: Do you post on the forum? This was a while ago. |
| 01:18.19 | Ellipsis | on what forum |
| 01:18.23 | aestil | buu: are you not raiding anymore? |
| 01:18.52 | Ellipsis | buu: how long a while? |
| 01:19.02 | Ellipsis | it was probably before I named my character Ellipsis at all |
| 01:19.17 | buu | aestil: Not at the moment. |
| 01:19.23 | aestil | no raiding guild? |
| 01:19.28 | buu | aestil: Nope. |
| 01:19.31 | aestil | get into IWS. they are hauling ass. |
| 01:19.32 | buu | Ellipsis: Like, two-three weeks, it was a wow-forum post.. |
| 01:19.36 | buu | aestil: They raid too early. |
| 01:19.40 | Ellipsis | wow forum post? |
| 01:19.44 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:19.47 | buu | WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR READING COMPREHENSION. |
| 01:20.03 | Ellipsis | YOUR MOM |
| 01:20.05 | Ellipsis | you are not explaining well |
| 01:20.15 | ckknight | buu: don't be mean, I've a right to protect her now |
| 01:20.31 | aestil | have you marked her ckknight? |
| 01:20.41 | Ellipsis | I'm sick, I can't be expected to think properly! |
| 01:20.49 | ckknight | aestil: not with my urine if that's what you're asking |
| 01:20.55 | buu | I demand pictures. |
| 01:20.57 | aestil | ckknight: thats what i was asking :) |
| 01:21.03 | buu | Ellipsis: There was a wow forum post by a human warlock named ellipsis. |
| 01:21.06 | Ellipsis | pictures of me being sick? |
| 01:21.10 | buu | In a thread. |
| 01:21.13 | buu | Linked to by wowinsider. |
| 01:21.16 | Ellipsis | hm, cool |
| 01:21.18 | Ellipsis | probably not me |
| 01:21.20 | aestil | being urinated on would make you sick i'm guessing. |
| 01:21.24 | buu | aestil: I doubt it. |
| 01:21.29 | buu | aestil: Assuming it's fresh it should be sterile. |
| 01:21.39 | buu | Depending on which sick you meant. |
| 01:21.45 | aestil | the other kind of sick. |
| 01:21.49 | buu | Whups. |
| 01:21.54 | ckknight | she doesn't like taking pictures |
| 01:22.00 | buu | aestil: Anyway, I decided pandora was full of fail and I couldn't take the suck any longer. |
| 01:22.08 | aestil | they seemed to be full of suck, yes. |
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| 01:23.57 | aestil | cloverfield getting any positive reviews is beyond me. |
| 01:24.15 | aestil | buu: what about exalted? |
| 01:24.58 | buu | aestil: I'm pretty sure they're too early also. |
| 01:25.04 | aestil | they are like us. |
| 01:25.05 | buu | Most of the other guilds are like 5st or something ridiuclous. |
| 01:25.06 | aestil | 3 nights a week. |
| 01:25.15 | aestil | really? |
| 01:25.20 | aestil | we are 8pm ST |
| 01:25.40 | aestil | i think Exalted is the same. |
| 01:25.47 | aestil | except they start earlier on sunday than we do. |
| 01:25.54 | aestil | i think they have like a 5 hour raid on sunday. |
| 01:26.00 | aestil | with like a 6ST start. |
| 01:26.38 | aestil | is 2.4 on the PTR yest? |
| 01:27.00 | buu | aestil: No. |
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| 01:27.42 | aestil | weaksauce. they should split 2.4 into 2 things. |
| 01:27.53 | aestil | a content patch, and a backend overhaul patch. |
| 01:28.01 | aestil | realistically, one will be 'ready' before the other. |
| 01:28.12 | aestil | putting them together is kinda dumb imo. |
| 01:28.23 | aestil | new dmg meter's are going to be so sexy. |
| 01:28.32 | aestil | i assume anyways. |
| 01:29.39 | buu | Oh, wait, that terrible warlock is in exalted |
| 01:30.32 | Ellipsis | buu: I can't find anything like what you're talking about on wowinsider |
| 01:30.51 | Ellipsis | did find some lulz drama from my old realm though, thanks! |
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| 01:32.17 | ckknight | anybody willing to help me test something with PitBull? |
| 01:34.32 | buu | aestil: "I'm blowing this out of proportion by asking a simple question? come on, seriously what the fuck is wrong with you people, can I get a god damned answer or just a bunch of fucking crying little kids. Seriously, I even write the posts to be toned down as to not offend anyone and avoid arguments, but NOOOOOOOOO thats just too fucking much isn't it andy? For fucks sake leave me alone and stop protecting your butt buddy from his illogical arguments for a god damne |
| 01:35.25 | ckknight | for a god damne.... |
| 01:35.27 | ckknight | got cut off |
| 01:36.07 | aestil | buu: whaaaa? |
| 01:36.12 | buu | aestil: Exalted forum dramaz! |
| 01:36.18 | buu | aestil: This place seems full of bad. |
| 01:36.23 | aestil | ah. |
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| 01:43.51 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59707 10PitBull/ (CastBar/CastBar.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): |
| 01:43.51 | CIA-9 | PitBull_CastBar - remove texts |
| 01:43.51 | CIA-9 | PitBull_MetaLayout - add DogTag-based texts for casting. |
| 01:44.06 | ckknight | test that. |
| 01:44.08 | ckknight | someone. |
| 01:45.44 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59708 10/branches/IPopBar/: IPopBar: Created folder remotely |
| 01:46.08 | aestil | did something happen to quartz buff module? the timer's don't move smoothly for me anymore? |
| 01:46.54 | ag` | I hear people complaining about that all the time, for random addons using bars |
| 01:47.05 | ag` | I think it's something local |
| 01:47.27 | aestil | sigh. i may h ave to do a ground up rebuild. |
| 01:47.33 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59709 10IPopBar/ (15 files in 2 dirs): IPopBar: Ace3 port of my addon IPopBar. This addon doesn't work yet. |
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| 01:49.03 | khangg | any idea how to make optionhouse not close when in combat? |
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| 01:55.17 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59710 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - make sure to remove dead cast data from wacky units |
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| 02:03.47 | Fin | that bars-starting-to-not-move-smoothly thing happened to me too, but I really like the new way |
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| 02:05.23 | Ellipsis | I've had stuttering bars as well, I think it's a server/lag issue |
| 02:06.18 | DrMcNasty | anyone have a link to a good tutorial on building a xml gui layout? |
| 02:08.56 | NightHawkAtWork | huh, "atomicity" is a word, apparently |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r59711 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 02:09.02 | CIA-9 | - delete translate french (wait for utf-8 reply) |
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| 02:20.38 | Gnarfoz | <Ellipsis> I've had stuttering bars as well, I think it's a server/lag issue <-- don't think so - I've had stuttering/stuck/slow castbars in Aloft but normal ones in PitBull at the same moment :< |
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| 02:26.31 | Estil | BEMERA |
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| 02:32.52 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59712 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix issue with cast times and party. |
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| 02:34.23 | potemkin | hows it possible that when i hide a frame it still shows |
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| 02:35.34 | ckknight | .Hide could be stubbed out, it could :Show right after, you could have an error |
| 02:36.26 | NeoTron | i.e: /rarinvite Raider => invite ppl of rank Raider or higher |
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| 02:37.42 | potemkin | well i setscript onshow to tell me when it shows |
| 02:37.46 | potemkin | and it doesnt |
| 02:37.53 | potemkin | and then it hides it |
| 02:37.59 | potemkin | but its like frozen in place |
| 02:38.00 | potemkin | and unclickable |
| 02:38.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:39.45 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59713 10LootWhore/LootWhore.lua: LootWhore: Bugfix. |
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| 02:44.59 | dre^ | hello. so I'm browsing documentation on lua, and I find the following statement as an example table constructor: |
| 02:45.03 | dre^ | local random_array = { mug = "coffee", [42] = "universe", true = "false" } |
| 02:45.20 | dre^ | which I believe is broken, but I figured I'd ask some actual lua programmers |
| 02:45.36 | dre^ | I get "stdin:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 02:45.42 | dre^ | " when I try to use it in a local interpreter |
| 02:45.48 | NeoTron | hmmso WoW slash commands if I do "/command word word" do you always get two arguments sent to the handler? |
| 02:46.16 | dre^ | afaik it's one argument that contains everythign after the command, and you get to parse it apart |
| 02:46.21 | potemkin | its probably because |
| 02:46.23 | potemkin | true is reserved |
| 02:46.34 | NeoTron | actually doesn't seem to be the case |
| 02:46.39 | NeoTron | wonder if I mistyped |
| 02:47.00 | dre^ | msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' } <-- provides the same error |
| 02:47.14 | NeoTron | oh. the rank is called "Part-Time Raide" not "Part-Time Raider".. heh |
| 02:47.23 | dre^ | I just want a multiple-assignment style table construtor that works, dangit... |
| 02:48.03 | potemkin | u need to put |
| 02:48.12 | potemkin | [" "] around reserved stuff |
| 02:48.42 | dre^ | why does the simpler example fail with teh same error? |
| 02:48.50 | dre^ | are 1 and 2 reserved indices? :) |
| 02:49.49 | potemkin | true is reserved |
| 02:50.04 | dre^ | fine I'm down with that |
| 02:50.05 | chiper | Primer, you around? |
| 02:50.08 | potemkin | idk why u have to put [" "] around it in table constructors |
| 02:50.18 | dre^ | but what about: msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' } |
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| 02:52.45 | Gnarfoz | lua> return msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' } |
| 02:52.46 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "return msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' }"]:1: '<eof>' expected near '=' |
| 02:53.01 | Gnarfoz | well, I fail |
| 02:53.03 | dre^ | I guess 1 and 2 are 'reserved'. that seems bizarre but I don't care |
| 02:53.19 | dre^ | t = { apple="green", orange="orange", banana="yellow" } <--- works |
| 02:53.23 | Gnarfoz | lua> msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' }; return msgs |
| 02:53.23 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "msgs = { 1 = 'bar', 2 = 'foo' }; return msgs"]:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 02:54.10 | keiss | it fails because 1 isnt a proper identifier |
| 02:54.15 | keiss | in lua anyway |
| 02:54.21 | Gnarfoz | guess so |
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| 02:54.42 | Gnarfoz | lua> return type(1) |
| 02:54.42 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: number |
| 02:54.48 | dre^ | all I'm trying to do is build a table of "string" --> "string" |
| 02:55.08 | Gnarfoz | then use strings, not numbers, as indices =) |
| 02:55.12 | keiss | { "string" -> "string2" } .... |
| 02:55.13 | dre^ | ok great |
| 02:55.19 | dre^ | but watch |
| 02:55.28 | dre^ | msgs = {"mana burn"="mana_burn.wav"} |
| 02:55.29 | dre^ | fails |
| 02:55.30 | ulic | or let do it's own indices |
| 02:55.53 | ulic | lua> msgs = { "bar", "foo" }; return msgs |
| 02:55.53 | lua_bot | ulic: { "bar", "foo" } (#1) |
| 02:56.06 | dre^ | but this works: msgs = {burn="mana_burn.wav"} |
| 02:56.18 | dre^ | no that's not what I want |
| 02:56.31 | dre^ | I want "mana burn" linked with "mana_burn.wav" |
| 02:56.38 | keiss | dre^: again "mana burn" isnt a proper identifier u need to use this syntax [somethig] = somethingelse in those cases |
| 02:56.42 | Gnarfoz | if it's a table key, and you need to have quotes because it has spaces, you need to enclose it in brackets, as someone said earlier |
| 02:56.43 | dre^ | see the problem? not sure how to describe a key that has spaces in the name |
| 02:57.00 | potemkin | all keys are strings |
| 02:57.02 | dre^ | ah great |
| 02:57.09 | ulic | lua> msgs = { "mana burn" = "mana_burn.wav" }; return msgs |
| 02:57.09 | lua_bot | ulic: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "msgs = { "mana burn" = "mana_burn.wav" }; return msgs"]:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 02:57.12 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: http://ace.pastey.net/81458 patch to add guild ank based invite for oRA2 |
| 02:57.15 | potemkin | lua tries to autoconvert them |
| 02:57.29 | Gnarfoz | lua> msgs = {["mana burn"]="mana_burn.wav"}; return msgs |
| 02:57.29 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: { ["mana burn"] = "mana_burn.wav" } (#1) |
| 02:57.43 | Gnarfoz | worky :) |
| 02:57.49 | dre^ | excellent! |
| 02:57.53 | dre^ | thanks much :) |
| 02:58.09 | dre^ | so quoted AND bracketed |
| 02:58.22 | CIA-9 | 03quagmire * r59714 10nQuestLog/Bindings.xml: |
| 02:58.22 | CIA-9 | nQuestLog:Bindings.xml |
| 02:58.22 | CIA-9 | - Minor correction to get rid of errors logged in FrameXML.log |
| 02:58.27 | dre^ | so much for a light-hearted syntax :) |
| 02:58.49 | keiss | well , bracketed , the quotes are there because its a string u can as easily do [100] = "aaa" ... |
| 02:59.28 | dre^ | yeah you *can*, but why would you if you didn't have to? :) |
| 03:00.03 | keiss | depends what are you trying to do |
| 03:12.08 | Kivin | Any hunters had an issue /w their autoshot not working? It happens randomly to me. I can use any shots or stings off my bars, but as soon as scripting falls back onto autoshot, my char just gets stuck. stands still, does nothing. |
| 03:13.52 | khangg | anyone know what i would put in my config.wtf to make my windowed mode maximized? |
| 03:14.02 | khangg | I have SET gxWindow "1" |
| 03:14.05 | khangg | if i try to check it off ingame |
| 03:14.07 | khangg | my game freezes |
| 03:15.15 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59715 10PitBull/DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua: PitBull_DruidManaBar - properly detect the shift from bear -> bear and cat -> cat, deducting mana as appropriate. |
| 03:15.17 | khangg | ah got it |
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| 03:30.44 | buu | Hrm. Anyone know how I could modify Jim's cooldown pulse to also track procs? |
| 03:32.10 | khangg | nope :( |
| 03:33.53 | buu | Hrm. |
| 03:33.58 | buu | I think maybe I can just insert something. |
| 03:34.26 | khangg | maybe :o |
| 03:34.40 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 03:34.40 | Arrowmaster | track procs? |
| 03:34.59 | buu | Arrowmaster: Well, temporary buffs I suppose. |
| 03:35.01 | Arrowmaster | isnt that mod like omnicc |
| 03:35.09 | dylanm | Pretty much. |
| 03:35.10 | buu | I'm not sure. |
| 03:35.12 | buu | What does omnicc do |
| 03:35.51 | Arrowmaster | sounds like it does something completely different than what your wanting to add and almost 0 of the code is going to be useful for you |
| 03:35.56 | khangg | can oyu change your gamma if you're in windowed mode without changing your desktop gamma? |
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| 03:36.16 | buu | Arrowmaster: Not really, it's pretty simple code. |
| 03:36.28 | khangg | omnicc adds numbers above the icon, the numbers being the timeleft until the cooldown is done |
| 03:36.49 | buu | Arrowmaster: Basically what it does is, "on spell cast, get cooldowntime; store cooldowntime, spell; each second, if a cooldown is ready, display an icon for this spell" |
| 03:36.51 | Arrowmaster | and it makes them flash when the cooldown is over |
| 03:37.12 | buu | Arrowmaster: So what I want is "on proc, display an icon for this spell" |
| 03:37.19 | Arrowmaster | it does all that? |
| 03:37.22 | Arrowmaster | wow thats shitty code |
| 03:37.39 | Arrowmaster | so much better way of doing that |
| 03:37.44 | buu | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/download4511-JIMsCooldownPulse |
| 03:39.36 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r59716 10UnitActionBars2/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:39.36 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 03:39.36 | CIA-9 | - Fix for buff status information not being updated properly. |
| 03:41.07 | khangg | buu, i use msbt to show me when a proc is available |
| 03:41.12 | khangg | you could try it |
| 03:41.43 | buu | Is SpellCast_inProgress some kind of global? |
| 03:41.49 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:42.00 | buu | khangg: Yeah, I suppose. I rather like the JIM's pulse interface. |
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| 03:42.29 | Arrowmaster | that code is so horible, i had to close the window because i couldnt look at it anymore |
| 03:42.54 | buu | =[ |
| 03:43.05 | buu | Arrowmaster: Unfortunately I lack alternatives. |
| 03:43.30 | Ellipsis | use msbt/sct/parrot/your mom |
| 03:44.03 | buu | Those aren't alternatives. |
| 03:44.20 | Ellipsis | they pop up a shiny thing when your proc is up |
| 03:44.22 | Ellipsis | what more do you need? |
| 03:44.35 | khangg | and a word :o |
| 03:44.45 | khangg | i made mine play a sound for rampage too |
| 03:46.29 | buu | Ellipsis: I want a sound and a giant pulsing icon, not a random string of text scrolling somewhere. |
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| 03:47.54 | Ellipsis | buu: then make the icon bigger, hide the text, and hook a sound file to it |
| 03:48.07 | buu | That sounds likely. |
| 03:48.14 | buu | Er, unlikely to be possible. |
| 03:48.28 | Ellipsis | um, you can do it with Parrot |
| 03:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd be surprised. |
| 03:48.30 | Ellipsis | not sure about the others |
| 03:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 03:48.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i like U2 |
| 03:48.46 | Ellipsis | I like your mom |
| 03:48.50 | buu | Ellipsis: I remain unconvinced. |
| 03:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | but that guy is just making it even more unlikely that i'll ever buy an album from them |
| 03:48.55 | ckknight_ | hey, I like sag_ich_nicht's mom too |
| 03:48.55 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking asshole |
| 03:48.59 | Stanzilla | the time has come |
| 03:49.00 | buu | Ellipsis: A large static pulsing icon in the middle? |
| 03:49.00 | ckknight_ | sag_ich_nicht: I agree |
| 03:49.01 | NightHawkTheSane | msbt can at least do the icon bit, and about 90% sure it can do the sound |
| 03:49.02 | Stanzilla | the moment is at hand |
| 03:49.13 | Ellipsis | buu: yes, if that's what you want |
| 03:49.14 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Wut, no way. I just looked at msbt. |
| 03:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: i |
| 03:49.29 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: i'll check in game in a minute, and say for sure |
| 03:49.51 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: you saw the same article i did, i assume? and yeah, i like u2, but what an idiotic manager |
| 03:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane: yes |
| 03:50.38 | buu | ELLISPSI I DEMAND PROOF. |
| 03:50.56 | Ellipsis | well I don't have WoW atm so I can't screenshot it for you |
| 03:51.02 | Ellipsis | but I'm happy to walk you through setting it up if you like |
| 03:51.32 | buu | I guess I'll check out parrot when I get home. |
| 03:52.02 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59717 10IPopBar/ (IPopBar.lua IPopBar.toc): IPopBar: Port over more functions. Still not usable yet. |
| 03:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:50] <Ellipsis> well I don't have WoW atm so I can't screenshot it for you <--fail |
| 03:52.10 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 03:52.11 | dre^ | I'm having a bit of trouble conceptualizing how to best use the Ace options stuff for slash commands. My current goal is to provide get and set methods for table items. |
| 03:52.22 | Ellipsis | I haven't been able to play for a week sag_ich_nicht :< |
| 03:52.45 | dre^ | so does this require a top level type = group item, inside of which is another type = group and that's the one for that particular table? |
| 03:53.30 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: looking at msbt's cooldown output, you very much can assign a sound to it, though I don't think you can ch ange the icon size. |
| 03:53.46 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: And how about not making it scroll, making it flash, fade out, stay in the middle, etc. |
| 03:53.51 | buu | LITTLE DETAILS. |
| 03:54.40 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: msbt has a "static" animation style that may be what you want? |
| 03:55.17 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59718 10IPopBar/: IPopBar: Add folder properties and externals |
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| 03:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: and, of course, you can position/size the scroll area any way you like |
| 03:58.49 | dre^ | somewhat related: does AceDB support tables? |
| 03:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: yeah, you should really look into msbt more, just by toying with the options, you can get pretty close to what you want |
| 04:00.07 | dylanm | You could try looking at some of the mods that track procs and then shove that into Jim's display system. It would be a fun project. |
| 04:00.36 | Ellipsis | tracking the procs is easy |
| 04:03.30 | dylanm | Well right. |
| 04:04.05 | dylanm | Well there are a few types of procs that he could be talking about. It's not, like, trivial. |
| 04:05.42 | khangg | buu, you just won't be able to get an icon with msbt |
| 04:05.45 | khangg | but you can make it sticky |
| 04:05.47 | khangg | play a sound |
| 04:05.55 | khangg | make it say whatever you want when it procs |
| 04:05.58 | Diao | omg |
| 04:06.06 | Diao | blackrock isn't the #1 server in the world anymore :( |
| 04:06.32 | Ellipsis | dylanm: [7:34:19 pm] <buu> Arrowmaster: Well, temporary buffs I suppose. |
| 04:06.42 | Ellipsis | if the procs involved are all buffs, that's pretty easy |
| 04:07.17 | Ellipsis | and knowing buu, they probably are |
| 04:08.06 | Xinhuan | Diao, blacorck was never #1 in the world :D |
| 04:08.11 | Xinhuan | its only #1 in the US |
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| 04:09.30 | kruM | Hi there. |
| 04:09.49 | Diao | oh |
| 04:09.55 | Diao | well we're #2 now |
| 04:10.00 | Diao | mal'ganis just passed us :( |
| 04:11.35 | dre^ | does anybody know of any code I could look at that allows creation of table items via slash commands? |
| 04:11.42 | dre^ | the whole grouping thing has me confused |
| 04:12.02 | kruM | Um, just wanted to ask one question... Is there a Subverios repository or similar for the wowace addons with public read access? |
| 04:12.16 | Wobin | svn.wowace.com |
| 04:12.23 | kruM | "Subverios" |
| 04:12.25 | kruM | amg |
| 04:12.26 | Wobin | ah |
| 04:12.37 | JoshBorke | ~lart wobin |
| 04:12.37 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of wobin |
| 04:12.38 | Wobin | Never heard of that flavour =P |
| 04:12.43 | Wobin | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 04:12.43 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on JoshBorke |
| 04:12.54 | Wobin | I never knew that was the plural of VAX |
| 04:13.01 | Ellipsis | well what did you think it was? |
| 04:13.15 | JoshBorke | wobin: gief splu |
| 04:13.20 | JoshBorke | s/u/ut/ |
| 04:13.22 | dylanm | Ellipsis: Didn't see that restriction. |
| 04:13.22 | Wobin | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 04:13.22 | purl | takes a big bite out of JoshBorke's jugular vein |
| 04:13.23 | JoshBorke | you lazy jerk |
| 04:13.27 | JoshBorke | ~lart wobin |
| 04:13.27 | purl | slaps wobin around with a large trout |
| 04:13.35 | Ellipsis | dylanm: which is why I'm clearly better than you. :) |
| 04:13.37 | JoshBorke | ~wobin-- |
| 04:13.40 | JoshBorke | ~lart wobin |
| 04:13.40 | purl | resizes wobin's terminal to 40x24 |
| 04:13.42 | dre^ | the description of the 'text' option type says: "A text value is typically a string value, but with special arguments it can arbitrary". I'm looking for more documentation or examples about the 'special arguments'. |
| 04:13.45 | Wobin | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 04:13.45 | purl | strangles JoshBorke with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 04:13.53 | JoshBorke | someone kick wobin |
| 04:14.07 | JoshBorke | dre^: what are you talking about? |
| 04:14.13 | JoshBorke | ace2, ace3, rock? |
| 04:14.16 | dre^ | ace2 |
| 04:14.18 | kruM | wtf nice :) Thanks Wobin. |
| 04:14.24 | JoshBorke | oh, beats me, i don't do ace2 =D |
| 04:14.30 | dre^ | all I want is examples of setting table entries via slash commands |
| 04:14.35 | Wobin | Josh doesn't do much of anything =) |
| 04:14.57 | JoshBorke | s/much of anything/anything |
| 04:15.14 | dre^ | it's got something to do with 'pass groups' or whatever, but there's no good examples on teh docs page |
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| 04:16.06 | kruM | w00t nice, a single command to update all that wowace stuff INC! :) |
| 04:16.07 | Antiarc | http://io9.com/349956/one-pill-makes-you-autistic-++-and-one-pill-changes-you-back <-- scary |
| 04:16.36 | Wobin | kruM: Make sure you use ignore-externals |
| 04:16.42 | Wobin | otherwise it'll be aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages |
| 04:16.47 | Wobin | and you'll lag the server =P |
| 04:17.04 | Wobin | or better yet, use Kemayo's python script |
| 04:17.11 | Wobin | if you're going commandline |
| 04:17.48 | dre^ | ok let me ask it this way: if you wanted to provide a user interface for viewing / setting key --> value pairs, how would you do it? |
| 04:17.51 | JoshBorke | link the script wobin |
| 04:17.53 | JoshBorke | ~lart wobin |
| 04:17.53 | purl | frags wobin with his BFG9000 |
| 04:18.03 | JoshBorke | dre^: arbitrary? |
| 04:18.08 | dre^ | yes arbitrary |
| 04:18.12 | dre^ | and cli is jsut as good as gui |
| 04:18.34 | dre^ | in this case, the keys are combat log messages to match, and the values are sound file names |
| 04:18.42 | dre^ | you can guess what the mod does I'm sure :) |
| 04:18.43 | Wobin | kruM: search the forum for wowacepy |
| 04:18.55 | JoshBorke | search for me wobin =D |
| 04:19.09 | Wobin | http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/ |
| 04:19.30 | kruM | Ya, um, currently I download the updated versions from the website and it's hardly annoying to get rid of all that embedded libs. This is definitely a waste of time. Now I thaught to initialy checkout that stuff I use, `find` through my AddOns directory looking for .svn- directories, test for the current revision and only if that has been changed running an svn update. |
| 04:20.39 | kruM | cli > gui |
| 04:20.47 | Wobin | kruM: You might as well just use that python script =) |
| 04:21.19 | JoshBorke | i found that: list=; for dir in `ls `; do if [ -d ${dir}/.svn ]; then list=`echo $list $dir`; done; svn up $list |
| 04:21.19 | dre^ | so nobody has any suggestions, eh? :/ |
| 04:21.30 | JoshBorke | sorry no |
| 04:21.49 | kruM | Exactly something like that, JoshBorke. |
| 04:22.11 | dre^ | ok how about this: can anybody name some mods that use the Ace2 / waterfall config gui? |
| 04:22.42 | dylanm | Bartender3. Assessment. Uh... |
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| 04:23.05 | durcyn | kruM: uh, why not just ls -1 */*.svn | cut -d '/' -f1 | while read i ; do svn --ignore-externals up $i ; done |
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| 04:23.14 | dre^ | ok sweet thanks |
| 04:23.32 | durcyn | sans the second asterisk |
| 04:23.40 | kruM | Because it's nearly the same on another way, durcyn. |
| 04:24.12 | kruM | It's not the command I'm thinking about, it was the question if there is an public svn. |
| 04:24.17 | durcyn | yes |
| 04:24.20 | kruM | -n |
| 04:24.30 | durcyn | svn.wowace.com is available for reads by anyone iirc |
| 04:24.45 | kruM | Um, I don't know if this is the right place to ask that question, anyway I'd like to try... |
| 04:25.02 | Arrowmaster | why do you look for all the dirs with a .svn folder and svn up those? |
| 04:25.15 | Arrowmaster | i just do svn up * on my addons dir |
| 04:25.31 | dre^ | dylanm: bartender3 is a great example of what I'm looking for, thanks :) |
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| 04:26.41 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: because it's a little faster |
| 04:26.50 | Wobin | kruM: Actually, if you're not developing the addons, we prefer if you download from files.wowace.com |
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| 04:27.14 | Wobin | the python script does that |
| 04:27.17 | Wobin | as does WAU etc |
| 04:27.19 | kruM | You all know NECB I think? What would you suggest from wowace for that functionality? Tried a lot of stuff, Elkano's BuffBars, ClassTimer, Quartz... Any of these seem to lack the possibility to monitor, e. g. sheep from a mage in the group, or so. |
| 04:27.46 | Wobin | It's less stress on the server |
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| 04:29.52 | kruM | Wobin, if you had the choice "working" hours to update all wowace- stuff or entering one single command on the cli and just wait some time, what would you prefer then? |
| 04:30.31 | Ellipsis- | um, it's faster to run an updater, and it can be done with a single command |
| 04:31.43 | kruM | I don't want to kill your server, I don't want to update every hour, or so. I just want to safe some disk space (embedded libs) and an easy way to update wowace addons once a month. I don't think that this blows your subversion. |
| 04:32.00 | kruM | safe? save? save. |
| 04:32.04 | Wobin | kruM: python wowace.py -s |
| 04:32.08 | Wobin | done |
| 04:32.30 | Ellipsis- | wait, how are you saving disk space by using embedded libs |
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| 04:32.45 | Fisker- | one does not simply python into #wowace |
| 04:32.51 | Wobin | I think he possibly means unembedded? |
| 04:32.58 | kruM | bo.groover( ~ ): eix -c wowace |
| 04:32.58 | kruM | No matches found. |
| 04:33.04 | kruM | ;) |
| 04:33.22 | Wobin | kruM: Did you go to that site I posted and download the python script? |
| 04:33.26 | Wobin | ~lart kruM |
| 04:33.26 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on kruM |
| 04:33.34 | JoshBorke | ~lart Wobin |
| 04:33.34 | purl | declares Wobin a moron |
| 04:33.41 | Wobin | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 04:33.41 | purl | stamps JoshBorke on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 04:33.41 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.45 | Wobin | Ha |
| 04:33.48 | Wobin | So True |
| 04:33.50 | kruM | What is wrong to ask the package management if there is an ebuild for that script? ;) |
| 04:34.08 | Wobin | Oh I do it all the time |
| 04:34.45 | Wobin | But if you expect it to solve all your woes, then that's stupid |
| 04:34.49 | Wobin | ~lart Fisker- |
| 04:34.49 | purl | executes killall -TERM Fisker- |
| 04:34.52 | Wobin | Hurrah |
| 04:34.55 | Wobin | no more Fisker |
| 04:35.05 | Fisker- | :< |
| 04:35.32 | Fisker- | one does not simply killall me |
| 04:35.49 | Wobin | Don't worry Fisker. If that lart had been lame, the next attempt would have involved a mentos+pepsi sealed enema. |
| 04:36.11 | Ellipsis- | o.o |
| 04:36.54 | Fisker- | i want the white snow |
| 04:37.05 | Wobin | stop peeing then |
| 04:37.10 | kruM | "-n, --nodeps Don't fetch dependencies" -- Am I right that this is what I want if I don't want embedded libraries? |
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| 04:37.44 | Wobin | yes |
| 04:38.02 | kruM | kk, thank you very much. |
| 04:38.29 | Wobin | no worries |
| 04:39.00 | Fisker- | work tiem |
| 04:39.06 | Fisker- | but i'm still better than you |
| 04:39.11 | Fisker- | and you can't stop what you can't stop |
| 04:39.30 | Wobin | It's true |
| 04:39.34 | Wobin | You can't stop what you can't stop. |
| 04:43.02 | harldephin | my omen hasn't been working properly with the people of the last two groups i've been with. i'll retest and evaluate when servers are back online or i'm back home again, whatever comes first. |
| 04:43.21 | harldephin | maybe it just needed a reload or something. |
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| 04:51.57 | kruM | http://streik.no-ip.org/~groover/images/lart.jpg :) |
| 04:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | DO WANT. |
| 04:54.33 | kruM | Raucehn. |
| 04:54.42 | kruM | s/Raucehn/Rauchen/g |
| 04:58.43 | Wobin | kruM: Looks a little unwieldy tbh |
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| 05:33.08 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-2.0 - make [Text(arg)] also work with numbers |
| 05:33.08 | CIA-9 | - make tags that are numbers work without wrapping, e.g. [2+3] => "5" |
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| 05:42.01 | dre^ | feh, ok I still can't find a good example of type = text being anything *but* a simple string. I'm dying for suggestions on how to map the associated get / set methods to table entries, passing both the key and value on the command line |
| 05:42.17 | dre^ | (in the context of ace2 AceConsole) |
| 05:47.19 | potemkin | is there documentation on registerstatedriver |
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| 05:53.26 | Arrowmaster | dre^: what do you mean by table entries |
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| 05:56.39 | Wobin | dre^: um. Do you mean true/false or a list of possible entries to limit the input? |
| 05:56.39 | dre^ | Arrowmaster: well, it's like this |
| 05:56.59 | dre^ | no, very simple: I want to allow a user to create arbitrarily named key / value pairs |
| 05:57.14 | dre^ | e.g. /cd msgs create foo bar where foo is the key and bar is the value |
| 05:57.20 | Arrowmaster | then you have to write something yourself to split them and such |
| 05:57.23 | Wobin | yeah |
| 05:57.33 | dre^ | ok so I can't use AceConsole at all? |
| 05:57.37 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 05:57.45 | Wobin | you could pass the arguments to a function |
| 05:57.53 | Wobin | where you split them and do your appropriation |
| 05:57.55 | dre^ | hmm. I've tried that, it's not working |
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| 05:58.08 | Arrowmaster | theres only 1 argument |
| 05:58.11 | dre^ | so what would the type be in that case? |
| 05:58.13 | dre^ | execute? |
| 05:58.15 | Arrowmaster | you have to string.split it |
| 05:58.20 | Wobin | I'd imagine so |
| 05:58.25 | Wobin | but I'm not precisely sure |
| 05:58.33 | dre^ | yeah, it says that execute doesn't pass any data |
| 05:58.46 | Arrowmaster | text |
| 05:58.47 | dre^ | the name of the trigger you supplied is enough to make it go, it's like a gui button |
| 05:58.54 | dre^ | so what do I use for "name"? |
| 05:59.03 | Arrowmaster | anything you want |
| 05:59.15 | dre^ | I thought that was like the name of the variable... |
| 05:59.17 | Wobin | set passvalue? |
| 05:59.19 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 05:59.54 | dre^ | hmm |
| 05:59.58 | Wobin | I'd say "text" |
| 06:00.24 | Arrowmaster | use text and inside your set you need to k,v = string.split(x," ") tbl[k] = v |
| 06:00.40 | Daemona | I hate waking up early on my free wednesday and servers still being down over here at EU |
| 06:00.51 | dre^ | ok. so far I haven't gotten to that point, the parsing I can handle |
| 06:01.24 | dre^ | how do I get the rest of the args to the function? |
| 06:01.36 | Arrowmaster | theres only 1 arg |
| 06:01.39 | dre^ | just declare the function as x(a,b,c) ? |
| 06:01.46 | dre^ | ok, x(a) ? |
| 06:01.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:02.00 | Arrowmaster | thats why you have to split it |
| 06:02.31 | Arrowmaster | wait |
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| 06:03.19 | dre^ | I don't want any sort of auto splitting anyway, the keys will need to be "like this" |
| 06:03.21 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 06:03.25 | Arrowmaster | dont do that |
| 06:03.27 | dre^ | as they may contain spaces |
| 06:03.32 | Arrowmaster | set input=true |
| 06:03.46 | Arrowmaster | then do func(x,y) |
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| 06:04.09 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text |
| 06:04.24 | dre^ | I've been reading htat for like 2 hours |
| 06:05.20 | dre^ | but func(x,y) would fail if there were more than 2 args, yes? |
| 06:05.27 | dre^ | well not fail, but I'd miss the rest |
| 06:05.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:05.41 | dre^ | so I'll split it myself |
| 06:05.41 | Arrowmaster | or you can use func(...) |
| 06:06.01 | dre^ | in my case, everything before the last white-space separated thing is a single string |
| 06:06.03 | Arrowmaster | and select('#',...) to figure out how many there are |
| 06:06.08 | dre^ | so that logic goes in teh pattern matching, again no problem there |
| 06:07.16 | Arrowmaster | i suggest using ... then and doing your logic on how many args got passed into ... |
| 06:07.57 | dre^ | good call |
| 06:08.25 | Arrowmaster | i think with input=true anything wraped in " " is counted as a single arg even if it has whitespaces |
| 06:08.30 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 06:09.52 | dre^ | that would be handy |
| 06:10.12 | dre^ | ok here's the problem |
| 06:10.30 | dre^ | when I use type=text, it's assumed that I'm talking about a single scalar variable |
| 06:10.35 | dre^ | assumed by AceConsole |
| 06:11.04 | dre^ | cause it tries to print the value of the thing I named with 'name' |
| 06:11.26 | Arrowmaster | pastey |
| 06:11.33 | dre^ | ok |
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| 06:14.22 | dre^ | http://ace.pastey.net/81460 |
| 06:15.13 | dre^ | so when I do /cd, I get the appropraite help text. |
| 06:15.35 | dre^ | but when I do /cd msgs, in addition to the description of the get and set methods, I get CastDing: nil |
| 06:15.49 | dre^ | because the thing defined by name is nothing that exists |
| 06:15.50 | Arrowmaster | thats like all fucked up |
| 06:15.58 | dre^ | in what way? |
| 06:16.42 | Orionshock | dre^: you have no handler set |
| 06:16.53 | dre^ | for what? |
| 06:16.57 | Orionshock | the table, |
| 06:17.09 | dre^ | this is obviously incomplete |
| 06:17.13 | Orionshock | Get/Set functions that are strings require you to put a handler in there.. |
| 06:17.16 | Arrowmaster | and remove the get from the text one |
| 06:17.33 | dre^ | is it not a required attribute? |
| 06:17.37 | dre^ | to have a 'get'? |
| 06:17.45 | dre^ | the documentation certainly indicates it as required |
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| 06:18.27 | dre^ | the handlers are GetMessage and SetMessage |
| 06:18.58 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/81461 |
| 06:19.00 | Arrowmaster | try that |
| 06:19.35 | dre^ | what is changed? |
| 06:19.42 | aestil | lol, i love when there are commits that say something like 'i did some stuff' and then the next commit is simply 'reverted last commit' with no explanation as to why. |
| 06:19.57 | Arrowmaster | i added the handler and removed a get |
| 06:20.40 | dre^ | OH |
| 06:20.45 | dre^ | now I see |
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| 06:23.14 | dre^ | is white space significant in this stuff? like the tabs are messed up... (its' not loading) |
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| 06:23.31 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:23.54 | dre^ | also, I probably am missing something hugely useful in the way of debugging |
| 06:24.11 | Arrowmaster | luac |
| 06:24.13 | dre^ | cause right now I have no idea why it didn't load. I have swatter enabled, sometimes that barfs up something quasi-useful |
| 06:24.30 | dre^ | is that like a local interpreter or something? |
| 06:24.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:24.46 | dre^ | and it knows all the wow stuff? |
| 06:24.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:24.53 | dre^ | cause I have an interpreter going and I use that for basic syntax |
| 06:24.59 | Arrowmaster | it checks for syntax errors |
| 06:25.03 | dre^ | ok, well it's the wow interactions that are failing here I'm pretty sure |
| 06:25.05 | Arrowmaster | luac -p file.lua |
| 06:25.07 | dre^ | but I'll run this through and see what I get |
| 06:25.21 | dre^ | ya the options block is fine |
| 06:25.36 | dre^ | but I"m pretty damn sure there *required* attributes of a 'text' thing |
| 06:25.43 | dre^ | and if you don't have them the whole mod doesn't load |
| 06:25.46 | Arrowmaster | oh wait no its not |
| 06:25.57 | Arrowmaster | handler needs to be a table not a string |
| 06:26.19 | Arrowmaster | and your table doesnt exist yet when that options table is defined |
| 06:26.39 | dre^ | hmm, I guess I don't understand that behavior |
| 06:26.54 | dre^ | "table - object on which to call methods (default: inherited from parent group)." |
| 06:27.00 | Arrowmaster | change handler = "CastDing", to handler = CastDing, |
| 06:27.02 | dre^ | unfortunately that's not nearly enough for me :/ |
| 06:27.35 | dre^ | ok reloading |
| 06:28.02 | dre^ | still doesn't load though |
| 06:28.41 | dre^ | if I could somehow set name = args[1] that'd be totally sweet |
| 06:28.48 | dre^ | but alas that's completely unsupported |
| 06:28.54 | Arrowmaster | you need to move CastDing = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") to the top of the file too i think |
| 06:29.08 | dre^ | er, actually it'd be msgs[args[1]] or some such |
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| 06:29.20 | dre^ | the verison I pasted totally works |
| 06:29.23 | dre^ | except for the setting |
| 06:29.59 | Arrowmaster | your get and set functions are also kinda wrong |
| 06:31.10 | dre^ | how so? |
| 06:31.25 | Arrowmaster | well youve got two gets and the set doesnt set anything |
| 06:31.29 | dre^ | obviously they are place holders, but I thought they'd be valid |
| 06:31.51 | dre^ | yeah one is leftover from a different try |
| 06:31.54 | Arrowmaster | is it just not doing anything or are you getting any errors? |
| 06:32.07 | dre^ | let me reduce this further |
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| 06:32.55 | dre^ | ok, the 'extra' get method you see is the one referenced in the 'execute' method |
| 06:33.01 | dre^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.08 | dre^ | it works as intended |
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| 06:34.23 | dre^ | but when I do /cd msgs set, I get "messages is currently set to [None]" |
| 06:34.35 | dre^ | and "messages" is the thing I named with the name property |
| 06:35.23 | dre^ | seems like I probably shouldn't be using this |
| 06:35.38 | dre^ | at least not type = text |
| 06:35.49 | Arrowmaster | no you should |
| 06:35.56 | dre^ | do you see my point? |
| 06:36.13 | Arrowmaster | try changing name = 'messages', to name = 'set', |
| 06:36.21 | Arrowmaster | then doing /cd msgs set |
| 06:36.25 | dre^ | ok |
| 06:37.03 | Arrowmaster | oh and actually if you dont supply anything to set with on the /cd msgs set then thats probably why your getting the error |
| 06:37.36 | Arrowmaster | because then it will try to get it and print it for you |
| 06:37.59 | Arrowmaster | maybe you should just remove the whole get and set parts |
| 06:38.16 | dre^ | yeah I just sorta realized that I might be mis-interpreting some of what I'm seeing |
| 06:38.24 | dre^ | in teh sense that it's actually working |
| 06:38.34 | dre^ | and barfing up nil due to missing (unsupplied) data, etc |
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| 06:39.44 | Arrowmaster | if you leave it with the different get and set commands |
| 06:39.52 | Arrowmaster | add get=false, to thet set one |
| 06:40.24 | dre^ | ok |
| 06:40.37 | CIA-9 | 03ngollon * r59722 10SimpleSoulstone_Fu/ (SimpleSoulstone_Fu.lua SimpleSoulstone_Fu.toc): SimpleSoulstone_Fu: bugfixes |
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| 06:42.34 | dre^ | woot I think it's working as intended now :) |
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| 06:44.55 | dre^ | thanks a bunch for your help! |
| 06:46.19 | potemkin | does unit_health ever return partyNpet healths? |
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| 06:51.09 | dre^ | woot! AceDB worked on teh first try. score! |
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| 07:00.15 | dre^ | also it appears that input = true doens't treat "this thing" as a single item, but rather two items |
| 07:01.07 | Arrowmaster | damn |
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| 07:22.31 | Roath | anyone know where i can get my fingers on oChat? |
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| 07:25.04 | Diao | haste's googlecode page maybe? |
| 07:25.33 | Roath | checked it, cant find it there |
| 07:27.44 | Diao | hm |
| 07:27.47 | Daemona | did you try fuxsake.net ? |
| 07:27.57 | Diao | that's been superceded by googlecode i think |
| 07:30.35 | Roath | dunno, cant access fuxsake.net, i get a connection timeout |
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| 07:31.34 | Roath | haste, are you there? |
| 07:33.50 | Keias | It's on his googlecode trunk IIRC |
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| 07:34.15 | Diao | maybe it's outdated |
| 07:34.30 | Diao | i don't see it in trunk anymore |
| 07:34.46 | Keias | Yeah, it's gone now |
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| 07:38.18 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r59723 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 07:38.18 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 07:38.18 | CIA-9 | - Update koKR |
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| 07:45.31 | Wobin | Every time I see a commit like that |
| 07:45.34 | Wobin | I say "Club" |
| 07:45.39 | Wobin | and expect a door to open |
| 07:46.33 | Shirik | I say kill dash nine |
| 07:46.57 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 |
| 07:47.10 | Shirik | slightly NSFW, light language |
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| 07:47.48 | Wobin | ahah |
| 07:47.51 | Wobin | "Intelligent rap" |
| 07:49.16 | Javek | Random question: Should the |cFF00FF00 type color escapes work with StaticPopupDialogs? My dialogs are just showing the escape instead of changing text color |
| 07:50.07 | Javek | I know item links work in those dialogs |
| 07:50.14 | Shirik | How are you doing the script, in chat? |
| 07:50.29 | Shirik | or is it in a Lua file? |
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| 07:51.34 | Javek | i was doing it in chat to test |
| 07:51.39 | Javek | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.50 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:51.52 | Shirik | don't use | |
| 07:51.54 | Javek | I'm trying to modify DKPmon to color the name |
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| 07:52.04 | Shirik | the chat window automatically converts | to || to help non-programming users |
| 07:52.08 | Shirik | use \129 |
| 07:52.10 | Javek | ah |
| 07:52.11 | Javek | thanks |
| 07:52.15 | Shirik | lua> string.byte('\') |
| 07:52.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "string.byte('\')"]:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 07:52.24 | Shirik | lua> string.byte("\") |
| 07:52.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "string.byte("\")"]:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 07:52.26 | Shirik | lua> string.byte("\\") |
| 07:52.26 | lua_bot | Shirik: 92, |
| 07:52.31 | Shirik | crap |
| 07:52.33 | Shirik | I'm an idiot |
| 07:52.36 | Shirik | lua> string.byte("|") |
| 07:52.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: 124, |
| 07:52.43 | Shirik | Javek: \124, sorry |
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| 07:53.55 | Javek | yeah, it works, thanks |
| 07:54.05 | DARKGuy | Hey, what's the difference between Fubar and Fubar2 (the Ace override)? is it better to use FuBar2 instead of FuBar? I'm confused :P |
| 07:54.47 | Javek | I think FuBar 3 is out now |
| 07:54.51 | Javek | using Rock |
| 07:55.28 | DARKGuy | Really? I've never heard of its release o_O |
| 07:55.46 | aestil | DARKGuy: are you having problems with the addon's you are currently using? |
| 07:56.00 | aestil | otherwise, don't pay any attention, just use what you have, as its likely completley fine. |
| 07:56.11 | DARKGuy | aestil: no, I'm just wondering which one to use, since I see FuBar and FuBar2 in WAU |
| 07:56.56 | CIA-9 | 03javek * r59725 10DKPmon/ (Dialogs/dialogs.lua Looting/lootitem.lua): |
| 07:56.56 | CIA-9 | DKPmon: |
| 07:56.56 | CIA-9 | - Dialogs now work while dead |
| 07:56.56 | CIA-9 | - Colored names in the loot frame |
| 07:56.56 | CIA-9 | - Colored names in the masterloot dialog |
| 07:57.05 | aestil | i use fubar. |
| 07:57.33 | aestil | hey, ckknight, is fubar plugin 3.0 compat for 2.0 as well? |
| 07:58.06 | Javek | I think FuBar3 can display Fubar2 plugins if that's what you mean |
| 07:58.14 | Javek | I would think most users are using Fubar3 |
| 07:58.28 | Javek | so you may as well go with FuBarPlugin-3 if you're starting new |
| 07:58.36 | DARKGuy | Javek: where can you get Fubar3 from? google just shows up random chinese sites =p |
| 07:58.44 | aestil | wtf? |
| 07:58.46 | Killmore | WTB http://gizmodo.com/350091/cheeseburger-in-a-can-is-both-the-best-and-worst-thing-ive-ever-seen |
| 07:58.52 | aestil | DARKGuy: you just get fubar. |
| 07:59.01 | aestil | you'll be fine. there is no noticiable difference. |
| 07:59.35 | DARKGuy | aestil: OH, okay - I will then, thanks :D |
| 07:59.45 | DARKGuy | Killmore: LOL, that's innovative, in a way xD |
| 08:02.11 | Javek | I guess end users never see FuBar3, but the new Rock plugins reference LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 |
| 08:02.40 | Javek | so i'd dig into that if you're interested in working with FuBar |
| 08:04.05 | Wobin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=UG5gO4nlLRQ&feature=dir |
| 08:05.46 | DARKGuy | Javek: it's alright, my doubt is clear now, and there are some AddOns using LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 such as BankStack (from a google search). Sounds great :p |
| 08:08.27 | Javek | Is there a preferred lua code tab style? Use tab characters? Use spaces? 3 spaces? |
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| 08:11.09 | Wobin | Javek: nope =) |
| 08:11.13 | Wobin | Do as ye will |
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| 08:11.19 | Wobin | as long as it's not 2 spaces |
| 08:11.30 | Wobin | cause that's an abomination |
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| 08:13.24 | CIA-9 | 03javek * r59726 10Bidder/Looting/lootframe.lua: |
| 08:13.24 | CIA-9 | Bidder: |
| 08:13.24 | CIA-9 | -Expand bidding window header text to fit on single line |
| 08:14.53 | smoke_ | anyone a buffalo2 user? |
| 08:17.02 | DARKGuy | bye all ^^ |
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| 08:21.06 | CIA-9 | 03laric * r59727 10GridoRA2Layouts/ (. GridoRA2Layouts.lua GridoRA2Layouts.toc): GridoRA2Layouts: Initial commit of oRA2 maintank Grid layouts. Reworked from a seemingly abandoned addon on wowi. |
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| 08:29.32 | dre^ | when is AceDB supposed to write settings to disk? |
| 08:30.29 | dre^ | and lol @ Keias' quit message |
| 08:31.00 | Wobin | dre^: on reload or quit |
| 08:31.25 | dre^ | hmm, ok. well it doens't seem to be. guess I'll try out some sample code |
| 08:31.27 | [Ammo] | acedb doesn't dre^ it's done by WoW |
| 08:31.42 | [Ammo] | do you have the var registered in your saved variables? |
| 08:31.51 | [Ammo] | in the .toc |
| 08:31.56 | Wobin | That's the important bit |
| 08:31.58 | dre^ | I do, but not since I restarted the game |
| 08:32.05 | [Ammo] | ah yeah |
| 08:32.08 | dre^ | let's try a full restart |
| 08:32.08 | Wobin | any toc changes require a restart |
| 08:32.16 | [Ammo] | .toc is only read at full restart |
| 08:32.27 | Wobin | similarly with xml |
| 08:41.23 | dre^ | nice, working now |
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| 08:42.20 | dre^ | ok here's a weird one. paths to sound files for PlaySoundFile() |
| 08:42.32 | dre^ | if I internally store / set paths using "\\" as a separator, it seems to work fine |
| 08:42.49 | dre^ | actually... nevermind, this isn't my problem |
| 08:42.52 | Wobin | cause you have to escape the slashes |
| 08:42.56 | dre^ | (not that I ever finished that thought) |
| 08:43.19 | dre^ | ya I was gonna ask why it prints with only a single \ |
| 08:43.33 | dre^ | but I guess that \ has special meaning to print |
| 08:43.36 | dre^ | so that's fine |
| 08:45.23 | Laric_ | wobin isnt xml files reparsed on every reaload? |
| 08:46.45 | Pkekyo|bloodypw | 90% of my class just slept through two hours ^^ |
| 08:47.00 | Pkekyo|bloodypw | bloody beautiful |
| 08:47.21 | Wobin | Laric_: I don't believe so |
| 08:47.28 | Wobin | Or maybe it is |
| 08:47.30 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 08:47.32 | dre^ | compare notes on your dreams, maybe you missed something good ;) |
| 08:47.34 | Wobin | I haven't used xml in aaages |
| 08:48.02 | Laric_ | I am pretty sure the xml files are reparsed. But then again I dont use xml anymore so I couldnt say for sure |
| 08:48.27 | Pkekyo|bloodypw | rofl dre^, indeed |
| 08:49.41 | dre^ | awesome. most of the problems over the last hour or so have been due to the following statement in my RegisterDefaults function |
| 08:49.44 | dre^ | ["Mana Burn"] = "mana_burn.wav", |
| 08:49.49 | dre^ | seems harmless doesn't it! |
| 08:49.59 | dre^ | unfortunately mana_burn.wav is actually mana_burn.mp3 |
| 08:50.03 | dre^ | no wonder it wasn't playing! |
| 08:54.02 | dre^ | for the curious: my first attempt at a mod that allows the user to associate certain combat log events with specified sound files that get played when that event happens. http://ace.pastey.net/81462 |
| 08:54.20 | dre^ | so you could do like /cd msgs set Shadow Bolt, crazy_sound.mp3 |
| 08:54.32 | dre^ | stash crazy_sound.mp3 in teh Sounds folder, reload, good times |
| 08:55.09 | dre^ | not a lick of sanity checking, so take caution ;) |
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| 08:59.17 | Diao | so you can make stuff even more obvious than it already is O: |
| 08:59.40 | dre^ | well no, that's teh thing |
| 09:00.11 | dre^ | the root of teh problem is that we're not using in-game wow voice cause it sucks in quality... which means I need to keep my sound effects turned WAY down to hear voice comms |
| 09:00.31 | Diao | who uses the ingame thing |
| 09:00.33 | Diao | vent ftw |
| 09:00.34 | Javek | PaintChips returns from GetRGB with |
| 09:00.34 | Javek | return self.vars.rgbperc[hex], unpack(self.vars.rgbperc[hex]) |
| 09:00.34 | Javek | Is there a way I can feed this directly into another method expecting r,g,b? e.g. |
| 09:00.34 | Javek | SetTextColor(PC:GetRGB("myColor")) --though this doesn't work |
| 09:00.34 | dre^ | ... which means i don't get to hear game-provided sound effects loud enough to be useful... HOWEVER, mod-supplied sound effects are subject to a different volume limit |
| 09:00.56 | dre^ | so there is a good reason :) |
| 09:04.05 | Diao | ah |
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| 09:09.51 | Kivin | Javek: SetTextColor(select(2, PC:GetRGB("myColor"))) |
| 09:10.52 | Kivin | select(index, list) returns the item at (index), as well as everything beyond it |
| 09:15.46 | Kivin | Anyone care to tell me when 'AceEvent_FullyInitialized' is thrown in the Ace2 framework? |
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| 09:21.51 | breser | Anyone happen to know if SendAddonMessage() is filtered by a players ignore list? |
| 09:22.22 | Tem | it probably is |
| 09:22.53 | breser | That's what I thought but after having an argument with someone about it, it seems that Threat-1.0/Omen still show threat from people you have ignored. |
| 09:23.26 | breser | And I can't see how since I know I've seen messages from people I had ignored who had addons that were trying to talk to my addons. |
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| 09:26.46 | Gngsk | breser, threat sent from a third party maybe? |
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| 09:27.43 | breser | Tried it with just two people in the group. Me and someone I put on ignore. |
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| 09:27.49 | breser | They showed up. |
| 09:27.51 | Gngsk | ahh |
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| 09:28.42 | breser | Wonder if the "Blahblahblah is ignoring you." from addons was from before SendAddonMessage() could use WHISPER and people were using custom channels. |
| 09:29.05 | breser | Becuase I bet the custom channels are filtered but maybe SendAddonMessage isn't. |
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| 09:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | breser: that behaviour was changed |
| 09:45.51 | sag_ich_nicht | a few patches ago it'd be blocked |
| 09:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | now it isn't anymore |
| 09:46.01 | sag_ich_nicht | back then you'd also get the "is ignoring you" spam |
| 09:47.47 | breser | Which patch out of curiosity? |
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| 09:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't know. |
| 09:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i just noticed one day that it was changed |
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| 09:52.14 | CIA-9 | 03javek * r59728 10Bidder_BossAuction/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:52.14 | CIA-9 | Bidder_BossAuction: |
| 09:52.14 | CIA-9 | -Created bid text and cost text on right side, cleaned up itembutton status text |
| 09:52.14 | CIA-9 | -better color feedback during bidding process |
| 09:52.14 | CIA-9 | -silent bidding ties are reported after round to those who tied |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-9 | 03javek * r59729 10DKPmon_BossAuction/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-9 | DKPmon_BossAuction |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-9 | -Deal with itembutton back references better |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-9 | -Resolve ties on announce |
| 09:53.38 | CIA-9 | -No longer expire rounds early if there were no bids |
| 09:54.29 | NeoTron | 3 weeks in the row the caster sword from archimonde has dropped |
| 09:54.35 | NeoTron | and 3 times in a row a lock won it |
| 09:54.40 | NeoTron | world is a ok |
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| 09:56.02 | Orionshock | wtb ag_uf module that tells me who's rezzing who, pulled from ora |
| 10:00.23 | smoke_ | anyone use buffalo2? |
| 10:00.50 | SNiLD | yeah i think so |
| 10:01.11 | SNiLD | not sure about the "2" ;) |
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| 10:03.15 | Pkekyo|wrk | ~seen thul |
| 10:03.37 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace (6d 28m 56s). Has said a total of 593 messages. Is idling for 10h 10m 9s, last said: 'well, I'mm off, cya tomorrow :-)'. |
| 10:03.57 | neenee | er |
| 10:04.00 | neenee | which caster sword |
| 10:04.06 | neenee | ah wait |
| 10:04.09 | neenee | tempest thing |
| 10:04.24 | Pkekyo|wrk | ~seen Ellipsis-- |
| 10:04.28 | purl | ellipsis-- is currently on #wowace (38m 30s), last said: 'he's not yours to kiss!'. |
| 10:11.14 | thul | Pkekyo|wrk: hey |
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| 10:22.22 | Xinhuan | wtb Blackrock up |
| 10:23.40 | Grum | Xinhuan: why are your servers down? crashed orso? |
| 10:23.50 | Xinhuan | black temple crashed during cp-update |
| 10:23.54 | Xinhuan | no instances are available now |
| 10:23.55 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 10:23.59 | purl | :/ |
| 10:24.09 | Grum | cp? |
| 10:24.09 | Xinhuan | LUCKILY i gave out the loot from the corpse 30 secs before the crash |
| 10:24.13 | Xinhuan | honor update |
| 10:24.32 | Grum | i dont know why that fucks over the complete server so badly |
| 10:24.35 | Grum | so retarded :/ |
| 10:24.52 | Xinhuan | the server tries to do all the honor updates at a go (about 2-3 min) |
| 10:25.02 | Xinhuan | at 2-3am server time or so |
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| 10:25.14 | Grum | yes i know, happens at/around 1:15-1:20 on my server |
| 10:25.25 | smoke_ | anyone use buffalo2? |
| 10:25.33 | Grum | server just hangs for 5sec-3min |
| 10:26.05 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 10:26.11 | Xinhuan | and that 2-3am is our server's peak our |
| 10:26.12 | Xinhuan | hour |
| 10:26.21 | Xinhuan | because we have about 35 australian guilds on the server |
| 10:26.27 | Xinhuan | and its our 6-8pm right now |
| 10:26.35 | Xinhuan | so it pretty much fucks our raiding |
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| 10:31.45 | smoke_ | the timer on buffalo2 for the debuff count is wrong... wtf |
| 10:33.09 | Xinhuan | http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o226/kharmaa/ImBurned.jpg |
| 10:33.11 | Xinhuan | rofl |
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| 10:35.31 | Orionshock | THAT IS WRONG |
| 10:35.36 | Orionshock | oh so wrong |
| 10:35.47 | Kivin | XD |
| 10:35.56 | Kivin | Indeed, wrong |
| 10:36.03 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:36.07 | Kivin | He should have used Seal of Blood. Unless he's one of those faux alliance Paladins. |
| 10:36.14 | Xinhuan | HAMMER OF JUSTICE!!! |
| 10:36.16 | Xinhuan | *punch* |
| 10:36.30 | Hobby | *blink* |
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| 10:39.00 | Pkekyo|wrk | is there a command I can use to pop the menu in wow that you get when pressing escape? |
| 10:41.09 | Hobby | ToggleGameMenu(); |
| 10:41.36 | Hobby | may be protected, not sure |
| 10:42.17 | Pkekyo|wrk | if not, I'm fucked :p |
| 10:42.27 | Pkekyo|wrk | I managed to fuck up my laptop's eskape key |
| 10:42.44 | neenee | it works |
| 10:42.44 | Hobby | oh, you can just rebind it =P |
| 10:42.50 | neenee | Ah :) |
| 10:42.50 | neenee | hehe |
| 10:43.04 | Hobby | bind whatever TOGGLEGAMEMENU |
| 10:43.09 | Pkekyo|wrk | oh |
| 10:43.18 | need_acebased_ne | cb |
| 10:43.27 | Pkekyo|wrk | how can I rebind it when the keybinding menu isn't available? :p |
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| 10:44.23 | Hobby | WTF\Accounts\Whatever\bindings-cache.wtf |
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| 10:44.38 | Hobby | notepad works =P |
| 10:45.37 | Hobby | I bound all of my buddy's keys to it with a script, he wasn't happy |
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| 10:47.47 | Hobby | Anyone having the problem of FuBar modules moving between bars? |
| 10:48.05 | Hobby | Whenever I reload my Ui 1 or 2 modules will jump from panel 1 to panel 0 |
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| 10:50.03 | SunTsu | Hobby: Have you tried locking the bars? |
| 10:50.30 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: now i wonder, is gaterhMate modular enough to add stuff to it /such as/ say treasure n'such? |
| 10:50.59 | Xinhuan | its designed so you can't add stuff to it, so it doesn't bloat into cartographer_XXX |
| 10:51.02 | Orionshock | Pkekyo| btw, it's in the standard keybinds in the keybinds menu |
| 10:51.31 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: that's lame... |
| 10:52.30 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Notes is designed to be a general _notes database type addon, gathermate isn't |
| 10:52.38 | Pkekyo|clone | Orionshock: how to get to keybinds menu, when you can't press escape? .p |
| 10:52.39 | Pkekyo|clone | :p |
| 10:52.46 | Orionshock | .. mini buttons |
| 10:53.08 | Orionshock | " |
| 10:53.14 | Xinhuan | /run ShowUIPanel("GameMenuFrame") |
| 10:53.17 | Orionshock | "Mico Menu" is what bt3 says |
| 10:53.47 | Xinhuan | ya that's cos the default game UI calls them "MicroMenuButtons |
| 10:53.48 | Xinhuan | " |
| 10:53.53 | Hobby | Yes I tried locking...it's as if it's not even saving after I move them back |
| 10:54.29 | Orionshock | Hobby: sounds like a phooked sv file |
| 10:54.39 | Orionshock | have you tried nixing it? |
| 10:55.05 | Hobby | Not yet, saving it as a last resort :) |
| 10:55.13 | Orionshock | update first |
| 10:55.18 | Orionshock | then nix the sv file |
| 10:55.36 | Orionshock | btw, bar settings iirc are saved per addon not in the fubar sv file |
| 10:55.37 | Hobby | k, trying |
| 10:55.50 | Hobby | yaeh just the position, just have a lot of them |
| 10:56.06 | Hobby | recently went to 2560x1600 and i've had saving issues since |
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| 11:06.52 | Pkekyo|clone | bwahah |
| 11:07.00 | Pkekyo|clone | my entire class is playing wow on a private server |
| 11:07.09 | ShenDK | Is there an attribute on xml elements that grays them out and disables them? |
| 11:09.21 | Orionshock | ShenDK: by default? |
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| 11:10.14 | ShenDK | Orionshock: no, if options are disabled runtime based on the players level etc |
| 11:10.32 | Orionshock | use an on load script |
| 11:10.53 | Hobby | elem:Disable() |
| 11:11.03 | Orionshock | ^^ that too :D |
| 11:11.05 | ShenDK | Orionshock: aaah thanks, will try |
| 11:11.10 | Hobby | in the onload script :) |
| 11:11.13 | ShenDK | Hobby thanks too |
| 11:11.17 | Hobby | np |
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| 11:11.26 | Hobby | oh crap i'm late for work, later |
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| 11:12.56 | ShenDK | excellent, it worked :) |
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| 11:18.19 | Neebler | http://youtube.com/watch?v=q6dJtScSnxM |
| 11:19.02 | Neebler | it's fisker |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59730 10Recount/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 11:23.07 | CIA-9 | - Created locale folder with localization files for each locale. Removed existing localization from Recount.lua to these. |
| 11:26.50 | Grum | hmm Recount, wonder what that was ;D |
| 11:27.57 | Megalon | addon for the us presidential ellections? |
| 11:28.00 | Megalon | ;/ |
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| 11:29.11 | Grum | as if counting it again will actually make it right |
| 11:31.30 | Orionshock | chad anyone? |
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| 11:47.36 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59731 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: |
| 11:47.36 | CIA-9 | oRA2: Invite: |
| 11:47.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.37 | vhaarr | NeoTron: ping |
| 11:49.34 | thul | PONG |
| 11:51.23 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r59732 10Grid/Grid/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Grid: (Ace3 branch) update option syntax to AceConfigDialog-3.0 |
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| 12:10.03 | Grum | is this jerry on irc btw? :P |
| 12:10.21 | Kalroth | Tom and Jerry? |
| 12:11.16 | Grum | jerry which commits to Grid |
| 12:15.59 | vhaarr | no |
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| 12:20.41 | Funkeh` | hes french, and as such, doesn't use irc |
| 12:20.41 | Funkeh` | seems to be more of a trend |
| 12:21.24 | Megalon | 2. It is wrong to be French. |
| 12:21.25 | Megalon | :/ |
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| 12:27.05 | pb_ee1 | Yo |
| 12:27.14 | pb_ee1 | is trasher (svn user) around here? |
| 12:27.27 | neenee | ~seen trasher |
| 12:27.54 | purl | trasher <~trasher@81-170-189-195.bahnhofbredband.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1188d 20h 53m 35s ago, saying: 'xam, that's one way to do it :)'. |
| 12:28.03 | neenee | lol |
| 12:28.06 | neenee | That might not be him. |
| 12:28.10 | pb_ee1 | hope so ;p |
| 12:28.34 | pb_ee1 | weeeee |
| 12:28.47 | neenee | You broke it :| |
| 12:28.51 | pb_ee1 | shoot |
| 12:28.54 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 12:29.47 | neenee | Hm.. Waiting makes time go by, go forward, so do the opposite of waiting and you may travel back :) |
| 12:30.05 | pb_ee1 | yeah, who knows what will happen ^^ |
| 12:30.09 | neenee | :) |
| 12:34.29 | Funkeh` | trasher is french |
| 12:34.34 | Funkeh` | again, see above |
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| 12:35.09 | Xinhuan | so how long ago is 1188 days? |
| 12:38.34 | Pkekyo|clone | L M F A O |
| 12:38.41 | Pkekyo|clone | my mate just got 127500xp for a goto-quest |
| 12:39.09 | Xinhuan | 127500 and 12750 is a bit difference |
| 12:39.21 | Xinhuan | big* |
| 12:39.21 | Pkekyo|clone | yeah |
| 12:39.26 | Pkekyo|clone | he got 127500xp |
| 12:39.30 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|clone: Which one would that be? ;) |
| 12:39.47 | Pkekyo|clone | hundredandtwentyseventhousandfivehundred experience points |
| 12:40.15 | Laric_ | is ace3 in beta stage yet? |
| 12:40.29 | Xinhuan | not quite |
| 12:40.32 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|clone: then, just tell us which quest it is |
| 12:40.42 | Laric_ | still those 2 open issues? |
| 12:41.07 | Pkekyo|clone | which quest? |
| 12:41.21 | JoshBorke | Laric_: yes |
| 12:41.25 | Pkekyo|clone | the one you get in zangarmarsh to go to the horde town in nagrand |
| 12:41.46 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|clone: Damn. I'm on alliance side |
| 12:41.50 | Funkeh` | Ace3 is in beta |
| 12:41.56 | Funkeh` | its not finished beta yet though |
| 12:42.10 | Pkekyo|clone | SunTsu: private server :p |
| 12:42.20 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 12:43.40 | Pkekyo|clone | blizzard's bar paging (on shapeshift) looks odd :/ |
| 12:44.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|clone: damn again ;) |
| 12:44.23 | Pkekyo|clone | it's great fun |
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| 12:44.30 | Pkekyo|clone | we're gonna start raiding MC at school ^^ |
| 12:44.38 | Grum | err? |
| 12:45.21 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|clone, eh ? |
| 12:45.24 | Pkekyo|clone | how much does it cost to start a guild? |
| 12:45.32 | Grum | 10g orso? |
| 12:45.38 | Grum | 1g? |
| 12:45.43 | SunTsu | 10g, yeah. And 5 subscriptions |
| 12:45.49 | cncfanatics | 10 subscriptions |
| 12:46.02 | Pkekyo|clone | private server at school, regular server at home :p |
| 12:46.09 | Neebler | it's 10 silver |
| 12:46.11 | Pkekyo|clone | 10 subs? damnit, need to enlist some more gamers |
| 12:46.15 | Grum | Pkekyo|: private servers are crap |
| 12:46.53 | Pkekyo|clone | Grum: howso? |
| 12:47.02 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|clone: I just ran throug a town and asked everybody without a guild to sign it |
| 12:47.23 | Grum | slow, buggy, empty, not completely scripted |
| 12:48.34 | Pkekyo|clone | this one's not slow, nor empty...though class quests are bugged...shamans've got their very own totem vendors :p |
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| 13:10.51 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59733 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Bugfix. |
| 13:10.59 | RaydenUni | http://www.massively.com/2008/01/26/the-battle-of-san-romano-for-the-horde/ <-- you guys know where i can find these images? |
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| 13:15.48 | RaydenUni | The Starcraft MMO could be all about PvP within a larger group, no soloing possible. This is, arguably, what MMOs are all about, after all -- the shared experience. Would Blizzard be crazy enough to create a PvP-only MMO? Sure! |
| 13:15.51 | RaydenUni | no, of course not |
| 13:15.54 | RaydenUni | blizzard isnt' stupid |
| 13:16.12 | RaydenUni | they've looked at how people play WoW and most gaming is solo, even if you are talking to everyone in your guild |
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| 13:18.24 | Ellipsis-- | RaydenUni, are you talking to someone I have on /ignore? |
| 13:18.30 | RaydenUni | no |
| 13:18.33 | Grum | if you can entertain yourself by yourself for at least 3-4 hrs in a game its useless |
| 13:18.34 | RaydenUni | just the chat in general |
| 13:18.41 | Grum | that is the only bloody reason they added the dailies |
| 13:18.47 | Ellipsis-- | oh ok, feel free to continue ranting then |
| 13:18.48 | RaydenUni | its useless? |
| 13:18.51 | RaydenUni | what is useless? |
| 13:18.56 | Grum | the game :) |
| 13:19.01 | RaydenUni | Ellipsis-- i wanted to start a discussion :) |
| 13:19.14 | RaydenUni | how is a game that can keep you entertained for 4 hrs useless? |
| 13:19.30 | Grum | erm i missed a "'t" :P |
| 13:19.37 | Grum | if you cant do that .. its useless >< |
| 13:19.44 | RaydenUni | and i'm not sure what you are saying about dailies, but i say it shows that blizzard understands that people want to play alone while not being alone |
| 13:19.57 | RaydenUni | ah, ok |
| 13:20.41 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r59734 10AHsearch/ (AHsearch.toc embeds.xml): AHsearch: add OptionalDeps and change order in embeds.xml |
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| 13:22.21 | Grum | also, the dailies made people less likely to go grind primals, so these areas are also calmer |
| 13:22.52 | Grum | also, giving people source of 'income' will reduce the amount of gold being bought, which will in turn get rid of some farmers |
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| 13:23.52 | Xinhuan | it will in turn lead to inflation, raising prices in general |
| 13:24.02 | Xinhuan | and will in turn lead to a need for more gold |
| 13:24.23 | Wobin | well almost |
| 13:24.38 | Wobin | if progression depended purely on player traded items, perhaps |
| 13:24.39 | RaydenUni | you just have to balance with an out of gold |
| 13:24.43 | RaydenUni | ie epic mounts |
| 13:24.50 | Xinhuan | there isn't much money sinks in the game |
| 13:25.02 | Xinhuan | the only major 2 money sinks - mounts - repair costs |
| 13:25.08 | Wobin | Neutral AH |
| 13:25.10 | Wobin | =) |
| 13:25.23 | Xinhuan | that isn't really major enough |
| 13:26.40 | Srosh | Reagents. |
| 13:27.35 | Grum | tbh its not really hard to get alot of money ingame |
| 13:28.00 | Srosh | And it shouldn't be. |
| 13:28.19 | RaydenUni | reagents? hah |
| 13:28.22 | Grum | still takes effort |
| 13:28.30 | RaydenUni | the task of getting 5000 gold for my epic is daunting |
| 13:28.39 | RaydenUni | will take me 50 days if i do all my dailies i think |
| 13:28.43 | Grum | the thing is, when you have money its easy to get more |
| 13:28.44 | RaydenUni | or a littl more |
| 13:28.51 | RaydenUni | how so grum? |
| 13:28.59 | Grum | i just buy 1500g of ore |
| 13:29.06 | Grum | and make 700g while doing so |
| 13:29.54 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 13:30.03 | RaydenUni | speculation or whatever? |
| 13:30.26 | Wobin | prospecting |
| 13:30.51 | Wobin | speculation is done on the stock market =) |
| 13:31.13 | [Ammo] | well you can buy low sell high |
| 13:31.25 | [Ammo] | and hope someoene doesn't undercut you by a lot :) |
| 13:31.56 | Wobin | You need a good eye on the market for that |
| 13:32.17 | Grum | with ~20k money you can just dominate one product in the AH completely |
| 13:32.55 | RaydenUni | http://dwarfpriest.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/karabingo.gif :P |
| 13:38.48 | Wobin | BINGO! |
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| 13:42.14 | RaydenUni | what are your thoughts on druid powershifting? |
| 13:42.53 | kenlyric | like, with lazers? |
| 13:43.50 | neenee | What is powershifting? |
| 13:44.59 | Ellipsis-- | shifting in and out of cat form to get extra energy for moar dps |
| 13:45.03 | RaydenUni | something i just discovered on elitistjerks |
| 13:45.06 | RaydenUni | right |
| 13:45.11 | neenee | I see. |
| 13:45.15 | kenlyric | exploiter |
| 13:45.18 | RaydenUni | seems really annoying, like downleveling healing spells only way more annoying |
| 13:45.19 | kenlyric | 3 day ban |
| 13:45.36 | RaydenUni | it gives you more energy from shifting, also resets your attack cooldown so instant white attack? |
| 13:45.51 | kenlyric | sounds like a really good idea. |
| 13:46.17 | RaydenUni | one guy said he actually drinks potions in raids because he does it so often |
| 13:46.26 | FinalX | But you get the global cooldown before going back into cat again. |
| 13:46.31 | RaydenUni | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t10533-druid_cat_dps_powershifting/ |
| 13:46.34 | FinalX | So seems pretty pointless. |
| 13:46.37 | RaydenUni | no... |
| 13:46.39 | Ellipsis-- | um, no you don't |
| 13:46.40 | kenlyric | you get what, 40 energy when you shift back? |
| 13:46.42 | RaydenUni | i think shifting doesn't trigger a cooldown |
| 13:46.42 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: It is a good idea, I have macros with potions for that |
| 13:46.44 | RaydenUni | kenlyric yes |
| 13:46.44 | Ellipsis-- | shifting out of form doesn't take a GCD |
| 13:46.56 | RaydenUni | guess you could jsut map a macro to shift out and back |
| 13:46.57 | Ellipsis-- | the only problem with powershifting is you chug mana pots to keep it up |
| 13:46.57 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: But normally I just wait for energy to tick |
| 13:46.59 | RaydenUni | for instant 40 energy |
| 13:47.14 | FinalX | It's not instant. |
| 13:47.21 | Ellipsis-- | yes it is |
| 13:47.24 | FinalX | No, it's not. |
| 13:47.32 | Ellipsis-- | you can create a macro to shift you out and back in instantly |
| 13:47.35 | FinalX | You generate it when shifting, but it's not instantly available. |
| 13:47.47 | FinalX | Try it. |
| 13:47.52 | RaydenUni | Over the course of two minutes or so, you should easily get around 125 energy -- Total DPS gain of around 70-80 or so, which is pretty nice. |
| 13:48.15 | RaydenUni | people have made macros for drinking potions while as a bear and shifting back... |
| 13:48.25 | SunTsu | Well, you generate 40 energy and normally miss a tick... |
| 13:48.28 | kenlyric | damn druids. don't ruin instant shifting! |
| 13:48.44 | RaydenUni | is there a way to shift out and back into whatever form you are currently in? bear or cat? |
| 13:48.50 | RaydenUni | all in one? |
| 13:48.57 | RaydenUni | so not having to specify the form? |
| 13:49.04 | RaydenUni | just for getting out of effects |
| 13:49.08 | RaydenUni | affects... |
| 13:49.51 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: No, I use a macro for that. Normally it goes to bear, with shift it goes into cat |
| 13:49.59 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 13:50.23 | RaydenUni | i have all my morphs on shift1-5 maybe i'll use 6 and 7 |
| 13:51.13 | RaydenUni | so really stupid question |
| 13:51.16 | RaydenUni | VE heals on shadow dmg |
| 13:51.31 | RaydenUni | would using mind flay (shadow) with +100 spell dmg (not shadow) add +100 shadow or not? |
| 13:51.37 | RaydenUni | and so would it contribute to VE? |
| 13:51.43 | RaydenUni | i had always assumed it would |
| 13:51.45 | Grum | yes |
| 13:52.16 | Grum | 'non specific spelldmg' will count for all schools and therefor is more expensive while in the itemization process |
| 13:52.44 | Grum | specific spelldmg is added to the 'generic' to get your total for a certain school |
| 13:53.10 | Grum | so you can have +50 fire dmg, +50 dmg and have +50 on all schools except fire, which will have +100 |
| 13:54.17 | Grum | VE gives a percentage of the dmg you do with spells in the shadowschool |
| 13:54.56 | Ellipsis-- | it's a vampiric effect, so it does a straight percentage of resulting damage |
| 13:55.12 | Ellipsis-- | your spell hits harder -> VE heals more |
| 13:55.23 | Grum | which in its turn is influenced by all +dmg |
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| 13:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis-- if i hit you harder, will you also heal more? |
| 13:55.42 | Ellipsis-- | I don't heal, it's boring |
| 13:55.44 | Ellipsis-- | :) |
| 13:55.52 | RaydenUni | oh right, when i look at my shadow dmg i ahve 1080, not 200 or whatever |
| 13:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | only if you play a paladin |
| 13:56.18 | Grum | RaydenUni: and its exactly 'generic dmg'+'shadow specific' |
| 13:56.49 | Ellipsis-- | sag_ich_nicht: I play your mom's paladin |
| 13:57.35 | Grum | i just play with his mom |
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| 13:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Elkano: my mom doesn't have a paladin |
| 13:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: if she's okay with that, whatever |
| 13:58.45 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 13:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis--: my mom doesn't have a paladin |
| 13:58.55 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
| 13:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry Elkano |
| 13:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 13:59.06 | Grum | omg |
| 13:59.42 | RaydenUni | here is a loaded question |
| 13:59.52 | RaydenUni | is there anything redeeming about leveling a warrior? |
| 14:00.00 | RaydenUni | the only reason i'm doing it is so i can tank end game |
| 14:00.04 | RaydenUni | but leveling him sucks |
| 14:00.20 | ag` | well |
| 14:00.32 | Grum | spend gold on his gear |
| 14:00.32 | neenee | bring bandages and/or a healer |
| 14:00.36 | ag` | there's the fact that you stunlock better than rogues in PvP |
| 14:00.42 | neenee | yeah that too, they are gear-dependant |
| 14:00.47 | Chompers | you're an unstoppable wall of death in pvp with good gear and a healer |
| 14:00.51 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59735 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: ScanSpellBook() noob! |
| 14:00.53 | Chompers | thatt's fun |
| 14:00.58 | RaydenUni | that all affects lvl 70 though |
| 14:01.00 | ag` | and instant MS and no diminishing returns on hamstring |
| 14:01.02 | RaydenUni | i'm talking about the leveling |
| 14:01.10 | Chompers | fury is pretty easy to level with, i had little downtime at all |
| 14:01.23 | RaydenUni | without potions if things ever get out of hand i die |
| 14:01.29 | ag` | leveling probably sucks once you already have a character, but it's like that for all classes |
| 14:01.41 | RaydenUni | if i get poisoned i have to sit and wait since i can't heal (guess this is me being spoiled from leveling a priest and a druid) |
| 14:01.52 | RaydenUni | i'm loving leveling my druid, but i despise my warrior |
| 14:01.56 | ag` | I've tried to level another character to 70 |
| 14:01.57 | Grum | RaydenUni: yeah that is annoying |
| 14:01.59 | ag` | I just can't |
| 14:02.03 | Grum | i needed to |
| 14:02.05 | Chompers | seriously gear dependant |
| 14:02.10 | Grum | got a priest stuck in his professions :( |
| 14:02.12 | Chompers | get lots of decent greens every level or so |
| 14:02.36 | Grum | get people to clear instances |
| 14:02.43 | Grum | get blue gear :) |
| 14:02.55 | Grum | and get a green pants before lvl10 with a TBC enchant on it :0 |
| 14:03.15 | RaydenUni | he is lvl 32 |
| 14:03.20 | SunTsu | .o0( fiery on a white sword ;) ) |
| 14:03.26 | RaydenUni | i was trying to kill those STUPID mobs in alterac that have a dmg reflect |
| 14:03.30 | RaydenUni | i died like 6 times |
| 14:03.33 | RaydenUni | such a long corpse run |
| 14:03.49 | Wobin | Code monkey likes Fritos |
| 14:03.56 | Wobin | Code monkey likes Tab and Mtn Dew |
| 14:04.34 | RaydenUni | goood song |
| 14:04.41 | Wobin | ps, does antipoison still take up a bandage cooldown? |
| 14:04.52 | Wobin | RaydenUni: seen the video? And Speed Monkey? |
| 14:04.58 | RaydenUni | speed monkey? |
| 14:05.03 | RaydenUni | which video wob? |
| 14:05.10 | RaydenUni | i remember two code monkey videos |
| 14:05.16 | RaydenUni | one of a cute girl dancing and a wow one |
| 14:05.32 | Wobin | The WoW one |
| 14:05.37 | Wobin | There was a remix contest |
| 14:05.41 | RaydenUni | with the gorilla, i've seen it |
| 14:05.45 | RaydenUni | i prefer the one with the cute girl |
| 14:05.51 | Wobin | and Spiffworld did a sequel |
| 14:06.05 | RaydenUni | http://youtube.com/watch?v=2lLRBiEBRAc <-- my professor showed this in class |
| 14:06.10 | Wobin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=qxLLiTkiOaQ |
| 14:06.12 | Wobin | Speed Monkey! |
| 14:07.30 | kenlyric | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t85p8MkdKUo code monkey dance girl live with JoCo :) |
| 14:07.43 | sdouble | Code monkey likes girls with more featurs than a board. |
| 14:07.59 | sdouble | features |
| 14:08.05 | Ellipsis-- | I can has code monkey? |
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| 14:08.36 | RaydenUni | she makes up for it by being uber geeky |
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| 14:10.07 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 14:10.17 | Wobin | I will forever see Code Monkey as the WoW Gorilla =) |
| 14:10.24 | kenlyric | she had her pick of any nerd in that audience. |
| 14:11.15 | kenlyric | code monkey will always be the guy who showed me the song. |
| 14:11.21 | kenlyric | he actually has a manager named Rob. |
| 14:13.53 | haste | Roath: http://ixo.no/cgit/cgit.cgi?r=oChat.git |
| 14:14.19 | Roath | thanks |
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| 14:19.20 | kenlyric | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0RIT50Ps0w |
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| 14:33.23 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59736 10/branches/mHud/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 14:33.23 | CIA-9 | mHud: |
| 14:33.23 | CIA-9 | - Added: A temporary work around for LibDogTag-2.0's newly implemented alpha tag (fires 0.05 after an update). |
| 14:33.23 | CIA-9 | - Added: 2 new color templates and used them in the default template |
| 14:33.23 | CIA-9 | - Fix: ManaTicker hides when changing to cat/bear |
| 14:33.24 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Texture Layers should be in the correct order |
| 14:33.28 | CIA-9 | - Fix: Falloffs update when config is changed |
| 14:38.37 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59737 10LibBanzai-2.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:38.37 | CIA-9 | LibBanzai-2.0: LibStub-based banzai with no dependencies. Could probably use |
| 14:38.37 | CIA-9 | some optimization on the roster handling side. Does not support pets and does |
| 14:38.37 | CIA-9 | not give you any idea of who is targetting you (yet?), like Banzai-1.1. |
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| 14:38.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <Ellipsis--> I can has code monkey? <--don't you already have ckk? |
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| 14:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <Ellipsis--> I can has code monkey? <--don't you already have ckk? |
| 14:42.08 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 14:42.44 | Osstia | morning |
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| 15:00.36 | neenee | Good morning |
| 15:00.59 | Osstia | mornin |
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| 15:09.44 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.red-dot.sg/Concept/porfolio/06/05FN/R021LM.htm is this awesome Y/N |
| 15:13.07 | Ellipsis- | old |
| 15:13.16 | Josh_Borke | happy birthday Xinhuan |
| 15:13.17 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up |
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| 15:17.05 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r59738 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 15:17.05 | CIA-9 | .Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 esES: |
| 15:17.05 | CIA-9 | - added Alchemy, Cooking, Enchanting, First Aid and Smelting Recipes (forum post from Subxero) |
| 15:18.27 | Grum | <Josh_Borke> happy birthday Xinhuan <-- zomg Xin burpday? |
| 15:18.39 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan has birthdays? |
| 15:18.46 | Ellipsis | I didn't know robots could do that these days |
| 15:19.00 | Grum | yeah |
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| 15:19.07 | Grum | he prolly ages 2 years per year |
| 15:19.12 | Grum | he must be 42! |
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| 15:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 15:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just his anual battery recharge |
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| 15:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 15:20.23 | sag_ich_nicht | "battery" |
| 15:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | they replace the plutonium with new one |
| 15:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | that's also why he doesn't answer atm |
| 15:22.53 | Pkekyo| | at what level does boomkin specc start to get viable? |
| 15:23.05 | kenlyric | 71 |
| 15:23.21 | kenlyric | sorry, old joke. |
| 15:23.23 | kenlyric | 81 |
| 15:23.52 | EvilJohn- | morning guys |
| 15:23.55 | Pkekyo| | dongjob |
| 15:23.57 | Pkekyo| | hai EvilGrin |
| 15:24.01 | Pkekyo| | EvilJohn, even |
| 15:24.20 | EvilJohn- | hi hi |
| 15:24.30 | genetik | morning |
| 15:25.42 | Twist- | realistically when you have enough talent points for wrath of cenarius |
| 15:25.55 | Twist- | but it's a terrible soloing spec if you're still leveling |
| 15:27.02 | mort | it is playable as soon as you reach the outlands, still feral is faster for leveling |
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| 15:28.33 | EvilJohn- | feral was the easiest thing I've leveled |
| 15:29.06 | Twist- | There's a reason they call 'em oomkins. |
| 15:29.21 | mort | i found bm hunter to be the easiest |
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| 15:29.57 | Twist- | ehh, a pally is the easiest. You just attack something then go afk and watch a movie. |
| 15:30.09 | Twist- | it's just not very fast. :D |
| 15:30.37 | mort | my paladin is lvl 63, i hate playing him :/ |
| 15:30.47 | EvilJohn- | prot pally? |
| 15:30.50 | neenee | I think warlock is very easy too, affliction warlock with a voidwalker out |
| 15:31.01 | Josh_Borke | VW? psh, imp or succi |
| 15:31.12 | EvilJohn- | I actually do watch movies when I play my prot pally |
| 15:31.23 | mort | leveld as prot up to 62 and tried ret then, really don't like any of the specs for outland |
| 15:31.26 | neenee | Nope, voidwalker for me |
| 15:31.44 | Twist- | I went ret to 58, then specced prot and leveled the rest of the way tanking instances. |
| 15:32.11 | mort | it's probably just not my class |
| 15:32.22 | Twist- | solo is pretty boring |
| 15:32.28 | neenee | Shouldn't you have figured that out well before level 63? |
| 15:32.31 | neenee | :P |
| 15:32.51 | mort | no ;) |
| 15:33.11 | neenee | Why now? |
| 15:33.15 | neenee | What are you struggling with? |
| 15:33.31 | EvilJohn- | yeah, I don't find he paladin to be very exciting |
| 15:33.37 | mort | prot leveling was fine in the old world, aka aoe grinding |
| 15:33.43 | EvilJohn- | effective, efficient, not inspiring |
| 15:34.35 | Twist- | heh.. I didn't figure out I hated my priest until the first time I tried raid healing |
| 15:35.05 | EvilJohn- | good point, playing a class in a raid is a lot different |
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| 15:35.27 | Twist- | mort: instance tanking is just good fun though |
| 15:35.32 | EvilJohn- | I like my mage soloing, raid maging really bored me |
| 15:35.54 | Twist- | heh.. and my mage is my primary raid toon |
| 15:36.12 | mort | he would be prot at 70, but... meh :) |
| 15:36.24 | Twist- | mort: just start doing instances now then |
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| 15:36.26 | EvilJohn- | I stole my wife's priest, took her shadow, and opened a can of whopass |
| 15:36.34 | genetik | heh |
| 15:36.47 | mort | maybe i will do that |
| 15:36.55 | EvilJohn- | now my mage is how I generate extra cash from dailies |
| 15:37.10 | Twist- | I think I might be forced to switch mains to my pally tank though.. which makes me sort of unhappy. |
| 15:37.21 | AAPL | My main is a priest |
| 15:37.22 | neenee | forced? |
| 15:37.47 | Twist- | Yeah.. our big gun pally tank may be taking some extended leave |
| 15:38.02 | genetik | where are you in progression? |
| 15:38.35 | AAPL | Anyone know if it is possible to make a dictionary addon, so you spell words correctly in wow etc? So you do not look like you can not spell |
| 15:38.39 | mort | anyway, i love my druid so much, almost no time to play my twiks ;) |
| 15:38.46 | Twist- | working on gurtogg. hyjal is clear. |
| 15:39.31 | CIA-9 | 03workinghard * r59739 10RaidMobMarker/ (4 files): |
| 15:39.31 | CIA-9 | RaidMobMarker: |
| 15:39.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.31 | Twist- | And my pally's in 10 man loot. |
| 15:40.03 | neenee | I'm glad I'm in a guild where I can play with what I want. But then, I am not a regular raider. |
| 15:40.09 | Twist- | the best of badge and ZA gear, but that's still a huge gap. |
| 15:40.42 | neenee | Ah well, in the end it's about what you yourself want out of the game :) |
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| 15:40.53 | EvilJohn- | yeah, if you don't want to switch, don't do it |
| 15:40.59 | EvilJohn- | you'll wind up resenting the game, and your guild |
| 15:41.04 | EvilJohn- | and that's not fun |
| 15:41.04 | Twist- | It's either this, or we need to come up with a reliable way to handle aoe trash without a pally |
| 15:41.54 | Twist- | Guild progression is the game for me, really. Not gearing up any one toon. |
| 15:42.29 | [Ammo] | your pally is geared well enough for the trash then |
| 15:42.33 | EvilJohn- | fair enough |
| 15:42.35 | [Ammo] | we had a pally in blues and greens doing the trash |
| 15:42.36 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 15:42.37 | Twist- | Hyjal trash? |
| 15:42.39 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:42.46 | [Ammo] | just make sure your healers are on the ball |
| 15:42.53 | [Ammo] | and make him tank ghouls and felstalkers |
| 15:42.55 | CIA-9 | 03poull * r59740 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 15:42.55 | CIA-9 | PallyPower: |
| 15:42.55 | CIA-9 | - Now possible to unbind auto buff key by pressing esc. |
| 15:43.02 | Twist- | I think I'm running about 10k less HP than our current pally. |
| 15:43.03 | [Ammo] | big aboms -> use a warrior or druid |
| 15:43.22 | [Ammo] | if you have the ZA and kara tanking gear you should be able to ahndle it |
| 15:43.25 | Twist- | And he still implodes with some frequency. |
| 15:43.27 | [Ammo] | not the 'tanking' |
| 15:43.56 | Twist- | and yeah, that's our usual way. |
| 15:44.09 | Twist- | the ferals and the warriors pick up the aboms |
| 15:45.02 | HIghoS | We just killed kael last week. No tankadin in the guild. This is going to be interesting figuring out MH trash. |
| 15:45.23 | genetik | any of your holy paladins collect offspec gear? |
| 15:45.31 | Twist- | one |
| 15:45.45 | Twist- | He's a decent tank as well. |
| 15:46.15 | Twist- | I'm not sure if his big t5 tanking pieces overcome the combined effect of all my gear though. |
| 15:46.37 | genetik | the top guild on our server does that.. their raid leader is traditionally a holy paladin.. he either respecs or just puts on tanking gear for hyjal trash |
| 15:46.53 | HIghoS | hmm. So he just throw RF up and spam heals himself? |
| 15:46.59 | HIghoS | aka tidewalker style? |
| 15:47.18 | HIghoS | (even though we use our prot warriors to help pick up the murlocs so our paladin doesn't get instant death) |
| 15:47.25 | Twist- | Our raid leader is the prot pally I'm talking about. This is going to be an interesting change. |
| 15:47.47 | Twist- | I've filled in for him on tidewalker before. |
| 15:48.28 | genetik | we encourage people to take gear for offspec stuff.. especially tankable classes |
| 15:49.05 | Twist- | our point system doesn't provide any discount for that sort of thing, so most people don't do it. |
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| 15:49.15 | genetik | ah |
| 15:49.25 | genetik | yeah, i set offspec gear at 1/5 the normal dkp cost |
| 15:49.37 | EvilJohn- | that's worked out pretty well |
| 15:49.39 | Twist- | those that do wind up costing themselves a shot at the really coveted items |
| 15:50.13 | genetik | normal dkp cost is based off of iLevel |
| 15:50.15 | Twist- | some people don't mind this, given that the set gear tokens drop frequently. |
| 15:50.19 | genetik | yeah |
| 15:51.08 | Twist- | we don't run dkp at all. decisions are just made by comparing a player's loot/hours ratio |
| 15:51.22 | genetik | epgp? |
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| 15:52.01 | Twist- | no. *googles* |
| 15:52.14 | Chompers | we use epgp |
| 15:52.20 | Chompers | its okay i guess |
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| 15:52.32 | genetik | i considered trying epgp at the beginning of BC raid content |
| 15:52.44 | genetik | i don't like how it stores data in guild notes, though |
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| 15:52.58 | CIA-9 | 03poull * r59741 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 15:52.58 | CIA-9 | PallyPower: |
| 15:52.58 | CIA-9 | - Unsetting the auto buff shortcut is now also saved. |
| 15:52.59 | Chompers | kinda sad seeing your first piece of t5 going to someone who raids twice a week |
| 15:53.40 | Twist- | we track all this on hand with a spreadsheet. |
| 15:54.06 | Twist- | I found that a bit surprising when they pulled me into /o, so I've been working on an addon to manage it. |
| 15:54.22 | Twist- | er, by hand. |
| 15:54.40 | genetik | heh.. the second time we killed vashj, one of our warlocks had just come back from a 3 week vacation (while we struggled on her), had the most dkp and got a t5 helm |
| 15:55.01 | EvilJohn- | not to preach here, but I think dkp and loot systems are done 100% in the public eye |
| 15:55.02 | Chompers | i still want to try a council, but everyones against it |
| 15:55.07 | thul | is raiding twice a week wrong? :-P |
| 15:55.22 | Chompers | it is when the rest of us were wiping 6 nights a week |
| 15:55.23 | HIghoS | We use a council. Best decision we ever made. |
| 15:55.26 | EvilJohn- | predictability and transparency are a guild's best friends. |
| 15:55.40 | HIghoS | Not saying we as a council make the right decisions all the time, but we can damn well backup why loot goes to who. |
| 15:55.47 | genetik | i prefer relying on numbers for the initial decision |
| 15:56.04 | genetik | then allowing the players to decide if they want to pass it on to the next person |
| 15:56.21 | genetik | less subjectivity |
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| 15:56.39 | EvilJohn- | it easy enough to identify loot whores that way |
| 15:57.00 | Twist- | we do have a council, but overriding the ratio (which players don't actually get to see) happens very rarely |
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| 15:57.18 | Twist- | from what I've heard, it hasn't happened since aq40 |
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| 15:57.48 | Twist- | I was in a different guild at the time that had a closed bidding DKP system |
| 15:57.52 | Twist- | *that* was nasty |
| 15:57.54 | CIA-9 | 03shen * r59743 10PoliteWhisper/ (4 files): PoliteWhisper Extended: More bugfixes, some german translation of heroic dungeons, disable heroic more checkbox for levels 1-69. |
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| 15:58.33 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 15:58.33 | CIA-9 | - fixed translation for koKR |
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| 15:59.06 | Twist- | If someone else had a fairly good idea of what you might bid for an item, they could undercut by a bit and just destroy your DKP balance. |
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| 15:59.17 | CIA-9 | CatPoints: |
| 15:59.17 | CIA-9 | - Lowered initial GCD to 1 second |
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| 16:03.30 | EvilJohn- | yeah twist |
| 16:03.32 | EvilJohn- | I dont' like those systems |
| 16:04.10 | EvilJohn- | loot is the most divisive thing in guild relations, and loot systems that just amplify that, I think, will wind up hurting the guild |
| 16:05.01 | Osstia | I miss raiding, and miss seeing new content. But I do not miss loot drama and DKP discussions and all that came with it |
| 16:05.22 | genetik | see, that's the thing |
| 16:05.43 | genetik | if you have a good loot distribution system, there shouldn't be any need for a discussion about it |
| 16:06.00 | Osstia | 10 man is great for that, because I can find 10 mature people that I like to play with. and this is a non issue |
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| 16:06.10 | Osstia | 25 man complicates that. and 40 man was near impossible to function like that |
| 16:06.26 | EvilJohn- | yeah, I htink the 25 man thing has worked out pretty well |
| 16:06.32 | Osstia | genetik: the problem is usually having 25-40 people agreeing that its a good system |
| 16:06.55 | EvilJohn- | I don't hear to much complaining abou the Inner Focus loot system |
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| 16:07.32 | genetik | EvilJohn-: no, not really |
| 16:07.51 | EvilJohn- | holding down inflation is key. |
| 16:07.57 | thul | my guild never discusses loot |
| 16:08.03 | thul | but we have a 25++ average age. |
| 16:08.09 | genetik | thul: same in our guild |
| 16:08.12 | thul | anyhow, why can't i get a bleed-immune/non-dagger opener that works? :-( |
| 16:08.28 | EvilJohn- | blizzard hates you |
| 16:08.31 | EvilJohn- | :( |
| 16:08.31 | Osstia | SS |
| 16:08.35 | Osstia | hehe |
| 16:08.48 | SunTsu | We just had that discussion, turned out that most people are satisfied with dice throws |
| 16:08.49 | genetik | EvilJohn-: sometimes you can't prevent the inflation if specific classes just don't have good drops in an instance |
| 16:08.56 | thul | i use CCS |
| 16:08.57 | thul | :-P |
| 16:09.03 | thul | cs |
| 16:09.12 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 16:09.13 | Osstia | Dice throws are a lot better now with the token system rather than class drops |
| 16:09.14 | EvilJohn- | that's true |
| 16:09.25 | genetik | or if you take forever to finish off an instance |
| 16:09.31 | Osstia | I killed nef 38 times and never got my goddamn robes. We saw them 2 times ever |
| 16:09.34 | EvilJohn- | like in SSc |
| 16:09.53 | Osstia | so if they had dropped, losing a dice roll would have been frustrating. But now days thats less of an issue |
| 16:10.00 | kebinusan | still could be better |
| 16:10.30 | kebinusan | blizzard shound change the random thing to random -1 so you cant get 2x of crap from bosses |
| 16:10.35 | Osstia | yes, but it could be a lot worse too |
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| 16:11.53 | thul | i had a hard time even getting lightforge:P |
| 16:12.50 | SunTsu | I never am lucky with any sets. And I really don't care as long as I can do my job anyways ;) |
| 16:13.40 | genetik | SunTsu: that's the kind of attitude to have, really.. success shouldn't be based on how much gear you have, but how much game content you complete |
| 16:14.50 | SunTsu | genetik: Sure. That's what the game is about |
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| 16:15.18 | Lukian | no! It's about pvp! :d |
| 16:16.36 | genetik | SunTsu: i have some people in my guild who are upset that i took vashj off of our schedule after 4 kills and everyone keyed because they didn't get the random non-set drop that they wanted |
| 16:17.32 | genetik | if we raided more than 3 nights a week, i wouldn't have as big of a problem with continuing to kill her for a little while longer |
| 16:18.45 | EvilJohn- | better in BT |
| 16:19.48 | genetik | it's taking a lot to convince them of that |
| 16:19.52 | SunTsu | genetik: If everybody is good enough to move on, so why wait? |
| 16:19.58 | genetik | SunTsu: exactly |
| 16:20.41 | EvilJohn- | easy toanswer, they only the step in front of them |
| 16:20.49 | genetik | we'd been sharding/offspecing just about everything from 5/6 in ssc for weeks |
| 16:20.51 | EvilJohn- | which is fine, not everyone sees three moves ahead |
| 16:21.39 | genetik | it took us almost two months to kill vashj |
| 16:21.45 | genetik | mostly because of holiday attendance |
| 16:22.51 | SunTsu | genetik: Well, there are things I's refuse to take off the raid plan: e.g. Karazhan. It's always good for alts and to get marks and doesn't really come into any serious' raid's way |
| 16:23.44 | genetik | SunTsu: yeah, one of our class leaders has a quick sunday morning karazhan clear for badges and some alt stuff |
| 16:24.19 | genetik | but it hasn't been on our raid schedule for a long time now |
| 16:25.41 | EvilJohn- | sunday morning KZ is kinda fun really |
| 16:25.52 | genetik | it's down to what? 2.5 hours? |
| 16:26.03 | thul | hmm, what do you guys think of balancing rogue utility/dps in pve with overpoweredness in pvp? |
| 16:26.31 | genetik | thul: take pvp out of the equation and you'll win |
| 16:26.34 | ag` | they're not really overpowered in pvp? |
| 16:27.18 | EvilJohn- | yeah 2.5 hours |
| 16:27.44 | thul | ag`: no, but if you give rogues dps to match mages/locks? |
| 16:28.05 | genetik | thul: eh? |
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| 16:28.20 | thul | eh what? :-P |
| 16:28.20 | genetik | thul: referring to raid dps? |
| 16:28.26 | thul | yes. |
| 16:28.28 | genetik | heh |
| 16:28.32 | thul | "heh" away |
| 16:28.42 | genetik | if you're a rogue and you're not at the top of the damage meters in a raid, you're doing it wrong |
| 16:28.46 | thul | right |
| 16:28.53 | thul | I'll just ignore you for now |
| 16:28.57 | thul | any other opinions? :-) |
| 16:28.57 | genetik | no, seriously |
| 16:29.04 | thul | no, you seriouslyu |
| 16:29.05 | thul | think |
| 16:29.06 | thul | then write |
| 16:29.11 | thul | I'm not in the mood for idiots now :-) |
| 16:29.14 | genetik | sigh |
| 16:29.29 | EvilJohn- | the mirror must be a tough thing for you, then |
| 16:29.48 | genetik | if you want good performance in pve, spec/gear for pve |
| 16:29.53 | genetik | if you want good performance in pvp, spec/gear for pvp |
| 16:29.59 | dylanm | Buuuuurn. |
| 16:30.03 | thul | EvilJohn-: the mirror rocks. |
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| 16:30.08 | thul | genetik: that wasn't really the issue here |
| 16:30.09 | thul | at all. |
| 16:30.11 | thul | _at_ all. |
| 16:30.51 | vithos | our rogues top the dps meters? |
| 16:30.54 | thul | first of all, I hardly think that all mages and locks would agree that "rogues should top the damage meter". In theory they agree, and in principle, since both classes bring more to the table than rogues, but in practice, I doubt it. |
| 16:31.19 | thul | fights that include lots of movement, where a mage can stay and spam casts, while the rogue runs after, will ofcourse make this very clear. |
| 16:32.34 | vithos | so you think rogues not only should outdps casters on stand and deliver fights, but that they should do so much more dps that they also win on movement fights too? |
| 16:33.54 | thul | well, again, I hardly think that all mages, locks and rogues agrees in the axiom that you and genetik put in bottom |
| 16:34.19 | thul | i can take one random class leader warlock from any random server-irc-channel and say "rogues are top single target dps" and they'll laugh and say "haha, then your locks suck" |
| 16:34.22 | thul | i can do the same with mages. |
| 16:34.50 | durcyn | a well-geared 0/21/40 warlock should only lose to rogues occasionally |
| 16:35.28 | thul | and that is kind of my point |
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| 16:36.22 | xyu | FU warlocks! |
| 16:36.24 | SunTsu | We see all kinds of dps class top the damage meter from time to time. Even moonkins |
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| 16:37.29 | thul | i just feel that rogues has little to offer other than dps, kick and sap :-P |
| 16:37.44 | xyu | evasion tanking omg! |
| 16:38.07 | vithos | well, what do you want, rogues healing? |
| 16:38.18 | dylanm | Their aggro dump is pretty awesome. |
| 16:38.22 | SunTsu | thul: What else do they have to offer? |
| 16:38.34 | thul | SunTsu: who? |
| 16:38.41 | dylanm | Lockpicking! |
| 16:38.43 | SunTsu | thul: rogues |
| 16:38.44 | thul | vithos: I asked :-) |
| 16:38.49 | thul | i didn't say "i have the answer" |
| 16:39.03 | thul | I thnk I'm getting grossly misunderstood :-( |
| 16:39.06 | vithos | i'm not sure what you asked |
| 16:39.08 | thul | it's like me and da vinci at his time. |
| 16:39.19 | dylanm | Of course it's like that. |
| 16:39.22 | thul | well, my original question was: if mages and locks are single-target dpsing par with rogues |
| 16:39.36 | thul | shouldn't rogues bring more to the table too? and if so, how to do that without unbalancing pvp? |
| 16:39.59 | genetik | i stick by my original suggestion to take pvp out of the equation :P |
| 16:40.14 | SunTsu | thul: sap is one of the finest CC where applicable. I never once saw it break on it's own and it lasts quite long. the only downside is that you can't resap |
| 16:40.37 | thul | well, sheep > sap imo |
| 16:40.38 | thul | genetik:P |
| 16:41.23 | Osstia | thul: look at the defensive side of the equation. you can evasion tank, vanish, etc... You do have some tools they don't too |
| 16:41.43 | SunTsu | Many stuns, Cloak of shadows |
| 16:41.45 | Osstia | what more do you want to bring to the table? |
| 16:42.00 | EvilJohn- | the same thing the mages want |
| 16:42.03 | thul | well, I just read a few threads about people not bringing rogues to raids anymore |
| 16:42.11 | xyu | mages offer nothing to the raid imo. you just need 1 for water, food, maybe some sheep. |
| 16:42.11 | EvilJohn- | the ability to amplify the raid's performance |
| 16:42.32 | xyu | raids should just be consisted of warlocks, shamans, a few pally, and a few druid. done. forget the rest. :) |
| 16:42.35 | thul | and if GLs stop bringing rogues to raids, that is a problem in my book :-P |
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| 16:42.45 | SunTsu | thul: I like having rogues around. Normally sap lasts long enough to get the first mobs out of the ways |
| 16:43.03 | dylanm | Well that was the intent of the hemo thing I guess. |
| 16:43.50 | SunTsu | thul: even if not rogues normally can tank one mob some time, even in heroics |
| 16:44.10 | dylanm | Do people not like hemo? |
| 16:44.19 | Osstia | I like hemo |
| 16:44.46 | Osstia | I have always been combat/assas swords. I moved to bombat maces with hemo, and I love it |
| 16:44.51 | Osstia | PvE and PvP |
| 16:45.09 | Osstia | now its an alt, so its just in season 1 gear, so nothing fancy, but it does really well |
| 16:45.16 | SunTsu | thul: I even heard that some raid leaders don't like to have mages around anymore.. so, it always comes down to the leaders stupidity ;) |
| 16:45.37 | EvilJohn- | take your best players |
| 16:45.37 | dylanm | I mean the same can be said for resto druids in some cases. But you can still find slots. |
| 16:45.42 | EvilJohn- | that matters more |
| 16:45.59 | vithos | i just don't think that because rogues are sometimes beatable on dps meters, that they're a weak class. it sounds more like a problem with the raid leader |
| 16:46.03 | Osstia | EvilJohn-: I couldn't agree more |
| 16:46.18 | SunTsu | some leaders don't like moonkins - othery use their high mitigation ;) |
| 16:46.35 | SunTsu | others even |
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| 16:46.44 | Osstia | I think good players will help a raid hands down better than a specific class. a good player on a rogue is much better than a mediocre player on a mage |
| 16:46.58 | SunTsu | Osstia: Full ACK |
| 16:47.06 | dylanm | Well sure. |
| 16:47.17 | genetik | Osstia: have to also take in consideration shitty encounter design or mechanics by blizzard |
| 16:47.29 | genetik | like leo pre-cleave change |
| 16:47.29 | Matrix110 | Illidan is fun for melees :P |
| 16:47.39 | EvilJohn- | too much melee on vael, etc |
| 16:47.39 | SunTsu | Osstia: It still takes a leader who knows how to use the classes to their full potential |
| 16:47.42 | Osstia | genetik: true. the early BC raids cleave made melee a joke |
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| 16:47.44 | EvilJohn- | err vashj |
| 16:47.46 | thul | hmm, wow kills my connection |
| 16:47.47 | thul | :-( |
| 16:47.48 | EvilJohn- | stilly fingers |
| 16:47.56 | Osstia | but that is leveling out more |
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| 16:48.29 | dylanm | In some sense you're bringing some of those classes because you're hedging your bets for upcoming Blizzard changes, no? |
| 16:48.55 | Osstia | SunTsu: thats true. but I think people get caught up in the "prefect" group make-up too much. I think theres a lot of room for flexibility with good players |
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| 16:49.27 | dylanm | Destro locks are kings right now. I don't see any reason to not bring bajillions of them. |
| 16:49.28 | Osstia | just my $0.02 |
| 16:49.29 | dylanm | But... |
| 16:50.13 | SunTsu | Osstia: Right. Like the other day when me, a feral, and 4 priests did arca heroic. Was quite lots of fun |
| 16:50.17 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59751 10Recount/locales/ (4 files): |
| 16:50.17 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 16:50.17 | CIA-9 | - Removing "DPS" from some loclization files. They could be found twice. |
| 16:50.17 | CIA-9 | - Submitting first translation in French in UTF-8 (Trasher: check Recount-frFR.lua) |
| 16:50.34 | dylanm | 6 players omg hax |
| 16:51.12 | SunTsu | dylanm: "me, a feral" - I am a feral ;) |
| 16:51.46 | dylanm | That's a good time to use semicolons. I getcha now :) |
| 16:51.53 | SunTsu | dylanm: I was just talking about unusual groups |
| 16:53.52 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59752 10Recount/locales/ (Recount-enUS.lua Recount-frFR.lua): Recount: frFR <-> enUS -_-' |
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| 17:04.10 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth 07Modules * r59753 10mHud/Configuration/Configuration.lua: mHud: fix aceconfigdialog error. module.options.bar.all.order was being set to a global 'id', since the local was out of scope. Some rogue addon in my collection is setting that global and hosing the config. |
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| 17:12.35 | EvilGrin | Is there an Ace Mod that's equivelent/similar to GroupCalender? |
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| 17:16.33 | kergoth | EvilGrin: nope |
| 17:17.35 | Seerah | if you just want something different, there's Guild Event Manager |
| 17:17.43 | Seerah | though I like GC better |
| 17:18.32 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r59754 10Prat/WIM2.3/: made a copy |
| 17:18.58 | SunTsu | Seerah: GEM is a real bad memory hog |
| 17:19.07 | Seerah | that, too |
| 17:19.22 | Seerah | like I said, though - it's something different. |
| 17:19.28 | kergoth | they both are, constant memory increasing |
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| 17:19.53 | deadair | !searchaddon deadly boss mod |
| 17:21.12 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r59755 10Prat/WIM2.3/ (94 files in 8 dirs): Merged Prat_WIM with the WIM 2.3.19 codebase |
| 17:21.14 | deadair | on the site, the addon Omen, it says use at your own risk |
| 17:21.18 | deadair | is there a stable version |
| 17:21.24 | Wogroipl | how do I start WoW in opengl mode? |
| 17:22.34 | aestil | does anyone know if WWS handles RoS correctly? |
| 17:22.45 | vithos | it doesn't really |
| 17:22.59 | EvilGrin | kergoth, Seerah, thanks :( |
| 17:23.19 | vithos | i think the live version splits p1 from p2+p3 or something |
| 17:23.48 | kergoth | deadair: -every- addon is use at your own risk :P just because it has a disclaimer doesn't mean it doesn't work |
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| 17:24.17 | EvilJohn- | <Wogroipl> how do I start WoW in opengl mode? |
| 17:24.23 | EvilJohn- | -opengl I believe |
| 17:24.27 | vithos | aestil: the beta version splits each phase into a seperate boss |
| 17:24.30 | deadair | kergoth oh lol |
| 17:24.37 | aestil | we aren't using that version. |
| 17:24.44 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59756 10Recount/locales/Recount-deDE.lua: |
| 17:24.44 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 17:24.44 | CIA-9 | - Added a first German (deDE) localization. |
| 17:24.57 | deadair | kergoth do you know where i can grab deadly boss mod? ace doesnt have it |
| 17:25.06 | aestil | its wierd, the full report is showing me at 78% pressence, but i wasn't dead very often, and i was at the whole raid. |
| 17:25.06 | Wogroipl | Eviljohn- yeah, but where do I type that? |
| 17:25.24 | EvilJohn- | wow.exe -opengl |
| 17:25.26 | kergoth | deadair: it isn't an ace addon, why would it be on the ace site? |
| 17:25.35 | EvilJohn- | are running wine or something |
| 17:25.36 | kergoth | deadair: there are plenty of addon sites, wowinterface.com, curse gaming. go try one |
| 17:25.38 | EvilJohn- | are you |
| 17:25.42 | deadair | kergoth, ok. |
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| 17:29.37 | Wogroipl | yeah I playing with Wine atm |
| 17:30.04 | Wogroipl | but I haven't played with Linux before :) |
| 17:30.40 | SunTsu | Wogroipl: Just look at the wowwiki page for that |
| 17:30.48 | xyu | aestil: were you dead ?:D |
| 17:31.13 | aestil | note that i said i wasn't dead very often. |
| 17:31.22 | aestil | my presence should have been 95% or so. |
| 17:31.33 | Ellipsis-- | needs moar dead aestil imo |
| 17:32.13 | aestil | a came back from raiding, and have 1273 raid buffed +dmg. and another SP has 1220 unbuffed +dmg and I beat him. |
| 17:33.27 | Primer | Is it possible to affect other addons from my addon? I'd like to add an option to Cartographer_Waypoints from my addon |
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| 17:34.44 | Ellipsis-- | well nobody's stopping you |
| 17:35.23 | Primer | It was a simple yes or no question |
| 17:35.29 | Primer | just want to know if it's possible |
| 17:35.42 | Primer | I'll pursue the how on my own, presuming it is in fact possible |
| 17:35.46 | Ellipsis-- | why wouldn't it be? |
| 17:35.53 | Primer | NFI |
| 17:36.03 | Primer | I've been coding Lua for 5 days now |
| 17:36.12 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth * r59757 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: Don't set the fontstring's alpha if no alpha tag was used. Right now, addon authors can't set the alpha of their fontstrings themselves. This way, it only screws with it if they change it with the tag. |
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| 17:37.30 | kergoth | still not optimal, if the addon messes with the fontstring's alpha while libdogtag is overriding it, you'll see it change back and forth.. hmm.. guess mhud should check the tag contents for an [Alpha()] and not set the alpha themselves if it exists |
| 17:38.10 | Ellipsis-- | why does the addon need alpha options if it can be done with dogtag now? |
| 17:39.53 | kergoth | because the hud can change alpha based on the unit's current health, in combat status, etc. |
| 17:40.02 | kergoth | but dogtag was forcing it to 1.0 period |
| 17:40.02 | Ellipsis-- | so can dogtag |
| 17:40.29 | Ellipsis-- | now the user has two ways to achieve the same result, mhud's settings and an [Alpha] tag |
| 17:40.34 | kergoth | right, so the addon should completely reinvent the wheel, forcing the user to configure alpha behavior for bars and text independently in two completely different ways |
| 17:40.36 | Ellipsis-- | and the two will fight with each other |
| 17:40.49 | kergoth | because dogtag feels the need to force the matter, instead of leaving it alone when alpha tag isnt used |
| 17:40.59 | Ellipsis-- | well it wasn't intended to |
| 17:41.24 | Ellipsis-- | but I don't see why mhud should still include settings to do something that can already be done in the tag itself |
| 17:41.52 | kergoth | because it already has the code to manipulate it, templates controlling alpha behavior, its easily configured the same way for text it is for bars |
| 17:41.55 | kergoth | usability is a factor |
| 17:42.02 | kergoth | forcing the user to do the same thing in two ways is pointless |
| 17:42.10 | Ellipsis-- | I agree |
| 17:42.36 | Arrowmaster | and wasnt dogtag suppost to do nothing if no tags were set? was it still changing alpha if no tags were set? |
| 17:42.51 | Ellipsis-- | it was, but that's fixed now thanks to kergoth |
| 17:43.03 | kergoth | yes, it was setting it to 1 if the tag wasnt used. thats fixed now, now just need to get it to cooperate when both methods are used in the addon |
| 17:43.22 | kergoth | does dogtag have a way to ask if a given tag is used in a given string? evaluate it and determine which tags had their functions executed? |
| 17:43.34 | kergoth | i'd hate to just check with a lua pattern when it already has a compiler |
| 17:43.35 | kergoth | heh |
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| 17:44.29 | thul | hmm |
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| 17:44.35 | Ellipsis-- | ck's answer is "not currently" |
| 17:44.47 | Ellipsis-- | but he could implement something like that |
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| 17:45.30 | kergoth | well, i'd hate to request a new api for something that's likely not an issue in other use cases. if multiple cases need something like that, sure. if it's just this one thing, /shrug |
| 17:45.55 | Ellipsis-- | he says it's really easy |
| 17:46.10 | Ellipsis-- | put it on jira or something and I'll make him do it when he gets his computer working again |
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| 17:47.15 | Empleyfire | Ah finaly... i need some help geting Wowaceupdater to work on my computer... |
| 17:47.20 | Arrowmaster | i really need to put my xbox360 faceplate somewhere else instead of just leaving it lying in a stack on my desk |
| 17:47.46 | Empleyfire | when i start it i get error window saying Cannot start application |
| 17:47.58 | Arrowmaster | have .NET 2.x? |
| 17:48.02 | Empleyfire | yes |
| 17:48.42 | Arrowmaster | installing from http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm? |
| 17:49.18 | Empleyfire | Cannot continue. The application is improperly formatted. contact the application vendor for assistance. |
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| 17:49.29 | Arrowmaster | reinstall maybe? |
| 17:49.30 | Ellipsis | bah, what's the last thing that got through? |
| 17:49.42 | Arrowmaster | 12:46:01p (Ellipsis--) put it on jira or something and I'll make him do it when he gets his computer working again |
| 17:49.48 | Ellipsis | ah, mkay |
| 17:49.51 | Empleyfire | I did that Arrowmaster and got the same error... |
| 17:50.04 | Arrowmaster | Empleyfire: i got nothing then |
| 17:50.30 | Empleyfire | Theres a 2 page error report if some one wants to look at it |
| 17:50.34 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 17:50.35 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59758 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 17:50.35 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 17:50.35 | CIA-9 | - Update koKR localization |
| 17:50.37 | Arrowmaster | "You need to add wowace.com to trusted sites in Internet Explorer to avoid the "Cannot launch application" Error and launch IE in elevated mode." |
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| 17:50.57 | Empleyfire | But im not useing IE.... |
| 17:50.59 | Industrial | launch what application |
| 17:51.00 | Industrial | also |
| 17:51.02 | Industrial | screw IE |
| 17:51.09 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:51.12 | Empleyfire | Agree Industrial |
| 17:51.14 | SunTsu | Empleyfire: WAU uses IE |
| 17:51.21 | Industrial | eck :| why |
| 17:51.22 | Arrowmaster | reinstall from http://www.wowace.com/wau/Install_WAU.zip |
| 17:51.35 | Empleyfire | So i need to update IE _ |
| 17:51.37 | Empleyfire | ? |
| 17:51.44 | Industrial | cant it be made in eg python if it has to be so platform independent? :P |
| 17:52.00 | chiper | because it's a lot easier to implement an IE control in .net than it is to implement gecko |
| 17:52.01 | Arrowmaster | its not platform independent |
| 17:52.27 | Arrowmaster | im gona go play the rez hd trial |
| 17:52.38 | SunTsu | Just use JWowUpdater if you want something platform independent |
| 17:52.39 | Empleyfire | If it uses any thing Microsoft has made for the exseption of windows its Basicly Crap... |
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| 17:52.57 | SunTsu | wb Ellipsis` |
| 17:53.04 | Empleyfire | Jwowupdater where can i find that_ |
| 17:53.09 | Ellipsis` | thanks |
| 17:53.16 | chiper | you people clearly have no concept of how .net works |
| 17:53.41 | SunTsu | Empleyfire: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917.0 |
| 17:54.09 | SunTsu | chiper: I admit and I am glad of that fact ;) |
| 17:54.27 | kergoth | ah, DogTag could just pass opacity back from codeToFunction[]() to the user from Evaluate(), but that feels ugly, being it'd be specific to that one case. /me opens a ticket |
| 17:54.36 | chiper | heh |
| 17:55.40 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r59759 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: invite after 10 seconds like the message says |
| 17:56.06 | Empleyfire | MMM thsi looks good SunTsu |
| 17:57.52 | Empleyfire | omg That Java version is faster too :) |
| 17:58.07 | Empleyfire | Thanks a million SunTsu |
| 17:58.14 | chiper | really? that seems a little odd |
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| 17:59.32 | Ellipsis` | no it doesn't |
| 17:59.38 | Ellipsis` | java may be slow but .net is .net |
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| 17:59.49 | Empleyfire | uh.. yeah i just notised... it does more then the .net one... |
| 18:00.08 | Empleyfire | But then again its not something that microsoft has made.... |
| 18:07.33 | kergoth | c# and .NET are pretty damn nice from what i've seen so far, imo |
| 18:08.47 | Arrowmaster | ok rez hd is badass with a 2nd controller, i need to buy this game |
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| 18:16.23 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/350385/its-like-gears-of-war-but-with-kissing |
| 18:16.25 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 18:38.14 | kenlyric | pitbull shows both the dots for combo points and a number to the right of my unitframe. Anyone know how to change settings for the text number? |
| 18:38.38 | Ellipsis- | go to the frame's texts options |
| 18:39.07 | kenlyric | I must just be fucking blind. |
| 18:39.09 | kenlyric | thanks |
| 18:39.34 | Ellipsis- | yup yup |
| 18:40.02 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59760 10PitBull/ (9 files in 8 dirs): |
| 18:40.02 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 18:40.02 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR(thanks papertiger) |
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| 18:41.44 | kenlyric | i'm double dumb... the combo points have been showing up in the aloft frame anyway. |
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| 18:42.14 | thul | ~fail kenlyric |
| 18:42.15 | purl | kenlyric: Fail. |
| 18:42.27 | Ellipsis- | it's ok kenlyric, we still love you |
| 18:42.34 | thul | "we"? |
| 18:42.35 | thul | speak for yourself |
| 18:42.36 | thul | :-P |
| 18:43.06 | Ellipsis- | well if I said "I" then ckknight would get jealous |
| 18:43.25 | ckknight | I would, I get jellis easily |
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| 18:45.00 | Pkekyo| | where to level at 39= |
| 18:45.05 | Pkekyo| | ? |
| 18:45.05 | thul | hmm, I never get jealous |
| 18:45.07 | thul | Pkekyo|: your shaman? |
| 18:45.24 | Osstia | ckknight: put your pants on and give thul a beatdowan |
| 18:45.28 | Osstia | beatdown |
| 18:45.46 | Pkekyo| | thul: a druid |
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| 18:45.56 | ckknight | Osstia: but I don't wanna wear pants |
| 18:46.33 | Pkekyo| | then wear a bloody dress, noone cares |
| 18:46.43 | thul | hahaha |
| 18:46.48 | thul | like little ckknight could beat me down :-P |
| 18:46.54 | thul | well, off to SW-training! |
| 18:46.55 | thul | cya:) |
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| 18:47.35 | Pkekyo| | star wars training? O.o |
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| 18:48.04 | thul | (submission wrestling) |
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| 18:48.39 | Pkekyo| | wtf |
| 18:48.44 | thul | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_wrestling <- Pkekyo| |
| 18:48.46 | Pkekyo| | no, I don't want to talk about it, nevermind |
| 18:48.57 | thul | haha |
| 18:49.06 | Pkekyo| | oh, grappling? |
| 18:49.29 | Pkekyo| | when you said 'submission', fetish stuff popped into my mind /shrug |
| 18:49.54 | kneeki | Is it still possible to cast spells via keybindings? If so, anyone know an addon which I can refrence to see how it's done? |
| 18:50.14 | nevcairiel | you need to create a button that the key is bound to |
| 18:50.17 | nevcairiel | but its possible |
| 18:50.53 | chiper | trinitybars lets you map keys to the spellbook |
| 18:51.01 | kneeki | Hmm, well. I do have buttons created, but when I made a bindings.xml with the code inserted (i used buttonName:Click()) it said it was blocked |
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| 18:52.10 | Primer | hrmm, it seems Cartographer creates the tooltip at the mouseclick event on the map |
| 18:52.31 | Primer | I was hoping to append to that tooltip in my addon, but I can't see any way to do that without modifying cartographer |
| 18:52.53 | KarlThePagan | intercept the event? |
| 18:52.58 | Primer | unless there's a way to catch that event in my addon, and do the appending afterwards? |
| 18:53.25 | KarlThePagan | you're talking about the minimap ping? many addons listen for it |
| 18:53.51 | Primer | KarlThePagan: no, I'd like to add another option to the control click menu, the one with "Set as waypoint" |
| 18:54.13 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 18:55.07 | KarlThePagan | i know what you're talking about and it's been a while but it could be related to the notes module |
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| 18:55.22 | Primer | that's exactly where it is |
| 18:55.34 | Primer | the notes module creates a dewdrop object |
| 18:55.43 | Primer | appends lines to it, then open()s it |
| 18:56.06 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r59761 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: |
| 18:56.06 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 18:56.06 | CIA-9 | - frFR update |
| 18:57.54 | Primer | it'd be nice if open emitted an event |
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| 19:16.56 | array{Endeavour} | Is there any ACE-Library for compressing text-strings or so? I have a huge amount of english text which i'd like to compress and later on decompress if i need to |
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| 19:20.31 | Gnarfoz | array{Endeavour}: I think someone implemented lzh or zip or so in Lua, not necessarily using Ace though, but why would they ;) |
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| 19:24.15 | Osstia | array{Endeavour}: what kind of english text? |
| 19:25.33 | Polarina | array{Endeavour}: What does ACE stand for? |
| 19:25.41 | array{Endeavour} | well i wrote an addon which allows you to quote bosses. the actual version has around 300 bosses included which makes the tables very large. i was just wondering if i could compress the quotes |
| 19:26.21 | array{Endeavour} | to make it more memory efficient |
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| 19:26.38 | Kivin | sounds like a fair bit of cpu overhead for minimal memory gain |
| 19:26.53 | Kivin | tbh, who cares about memory |
| 19:27.21 | array{Endeavour} | yes, but as you won't be quoting for like 10000 times in 1 second, the cpu usage would be no argument |
| 19:27.22 | Kivin | it's cheaper than ever before, go buy a 1 gig stick and be happy |
| 19:27.40 | Kivin | cpu is a great deal more valuable than memory in wow |
| 19:27.55 | Kivin | my most gluttonous addon is my damage meter, and it peaks out around 11 megs of memory. big deal. |
| 19:28.57 | Kivin | seriously, get performanceFu and see just how much memory your addon is eating up |
| 19:29.14 | Kivin | I'm willing to bet it's a good deal less than what could possibly matter |
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| 19:30.22 | Primer | How unusual is it to ask for the writer of an addon to add "if MyAddon then ... end" into their addons? I'd like to integrate my addon with Cartographer_Notes, but I'ckknight |
| 19:30.25 | Primer | err |
| 19:30.30 | Primer | I'm afraid of ckknight |
| 19:30.35 | Primer | :P |
| 19:30.45 | Kivin | You're... afraid of ck? |
| 19:30.47 | ckknight | you should be afraid. |
| 19:30.51 | `Zypher | lol |
| 19:30.52 | ckknight | I'm scary |
| 19:30.53 | Kivin | lawl |
| 19:30.55 | ckknight | you should see the dungeon |
| 19:31.03 | ckknight | ask Ellipsis-, she knows |
| 19:31.06 | `Zypher | rofl creepy |
| 19:31.13 | array{Endeavour} | Primer: around 1 megabyte |
| 19:31.21 | EvilJohn- | i'm afraid of calvin klein knight |
| 19:31.25 | Primer | hehe j/k |
| 19:31.31 | Ellipsis- | did someone mention the dungeon? |
| 19:31.37 | Primer | ckknight: I'm sending you a diff then |
| 19:31.38 | `Zypher | ckknight: |
| 19:31.47 | `Zypher | damn colen |
| 19:31.50 | `Zypher | now i look dumb |
| 19:31.50 | Primer | I've just been given SVN access, so my addon will be in svn by the end of the day |
| 19:31.56 | Kivin | array{Endeavour}: You're looking at string/table compression to reduce... 1 megabyte? |
| 19:32.00 | ckknight | `Zypher: especially cause it's colon |
| 19:32.03 | Ellipsis- | Osstia: he's pantsless a lot, actually |
| 19:32.07 | Zariel | if you return things from within an IF inside a function how do you access the values? |
| 19:32.07 | Osstia | I know! |
| 19:32.07 | `Zypher | fuck me |
| 19:32.09 | Ellipsis- | like right now, for example |
| 19:32.10 | kneeki | Primer, grats :) |
| 19:32.19 | ckknight | `Zypher: no thanks, my heart is for another |
| 19:32.23 | ckknight | my cock, too |
| 19:32.24 | Primer | /thank |
| 19:32.29 | `Zypher | ckknight: lol |
| 19:32.34 | array{Endeavour} | yes, as this is only the beginning... got another 1200 quotes to afdd |
| 19:32.37 | array{Endeavour} | *add |
| 19:32.45 | Polarina | array{Endeavour}: You could make them load on demand. :) |
| 19:32.58 | Kivin | I'm left to agree with that. |
| 19:33.39 | array{Endeavour} | That's a good idea, Polarina! think i'll do that |
| 19:33.48 | Polarina | array{Endeavour}: If that doesn't suit you, my only recomendation is to use the Huffman encoding. |
| 19:34.10 | array{Endeavour} | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1695.msg30707 |
| 19:34.11 | array{Endeavour} | ? |
| 19:34.43 | Kivin | The way I rear-load the memory usage of lootzor is by doing a simple check: if #this.elements == 0 then modules[this.name]:Load() end |
| 19:35.03 | Kivin | And each branch of the loot tree registers itself with modules[name] |
| 19:36.52 | array{Endeavour} | also a good idea, thanks for that! |
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| 19:40.23 | Kivin | array{Endeavour}: this is how lootzor does it, http://ace.pastey.net/81487 |
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| 19:41.26 | Crysli | Hello. |
| 19:42.24 | `Zypher | Crysli: Hello. |
| 19:42.40 | array{Endeavour} | Kivin: Thank you :-) |
| 19:42.55 | Kivin | array{Endeavour}: very welcome |
| 19:44.57 | chiper | primer: yo |
| 19:45.02 | chiper | I has more input for youz |
| 19:45.41 | Primer | do tell |
| 19:45.50 | chiper | I installed FlightHUD last night and used it for a few hours |
| 19:45.55 | Primer | cool |
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| 19:46.10 | chiper | ability to move it is an absolute priority, it's really in the way :P |
| 19:46.26 | Primer | yes, I always planned to add that |
| 19:46.33 | Primer | just haven't gotten around to it |
| 19:46.39 | chiper | bearing needs to have a static center line, I couldn't always tell which way I was supposed to be facing |
| 19:46.50 | chiper | I suggest just a little hash mark under the line |
| 19:47.09 | Primer | yes, I've just been putting that off :) |
| 19:47.30 | chiper | scaling would also be nice |
| 19:47.38 | Primer | have that in my notes too |
| 19:48.10 | chiper | if you ever figure out how to do primitives, it'd be a nice asthetic if the right and left edges faded out |
| 19:48.28 | Zhinjio | I think my dad is still trying to figure out how to be a grandfather. |
| 19:48.29 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 19:48.35 | chiper | otherwise I was quite pleased with it, and I look forward to Cartographer integration |
| 19:48.36 | Primer | I thought about that too, but didn't think it'd be easy |
| 19:48.45 | Zhinjio | apropos of nothing at all |
| 19:48.47 | Primer | chiper: I just emailed ckknight regarding that :) |
| 19:48.59 | Primer | since I'd have to add some code to Cartographer_Notes |
| 19:49.09 | Primer | well, I've already added said code locally |
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| 19:49.36 | chiper | oh yeah, and let me turn off the direction number text. I dont need it, it's just annoying |
| 19:49.44 | Primer | ok |
| 19:50.17 | chiper | it's fun to watch the thing move while I'm on a gryphon |
| 19:50.54 | chiper | I should bring a compass with me the next time I fly somewhere |
| 19:51.02 | Primer | yeah, I think it'd be cool to add an option to make it display when on the FP |
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| 19:54.02 | Primer | I think using primitives would be ideal, because then scaling and rendering bugs wouldn't be an issue |
| 19:54.11 | chiper | oh, and a minor tweak suggestion, reduce the minimum update frequency, even .5 seems kinda choppy on my computer, and I have the processing power for it to be lower |
| 19:54.20 | chiper | right |
| 19:54.30 | Primer | at the moment I'm scaling the pitch texture which is causing some artifacts |
| 19:54.57 | Primer | chiper: the refresh rate is configurable already |
| 19:55.04 | chiper | I know it is |
| 19:55.14 | Primer | then I don't understand what you mean |
| 19:55.25 | chiper | the minimum on your slider is .5 seconds |
| 19:55.29 | chiper | I want to go lower |
| 19:55.32 | Primer | not it's not, it's 0 |
| 19:55.48 | Primer | the max is 5 |
| 19:55.53 | Primer | the min is 0 |
| 19:55.58 | Primer | I have it set to 0 and it's fluid |
| 19:56.01 | chiper | what does 0 do? |
| 19:56.06 | chiper | oh, ok |
| 19:56.08 | Primer | make it update on every frame |
| 19:56.11 | chiper | I guess I missed that |
| 19:56.30 | Primer | max being 5 is kinda...stupid, really |
| 19:56.38 | Primer | 5 seconds, that is |
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| 19:58.26 | Primer | changing it from 5 to 1 |
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| 20:15.42 | Paene | wooo cancelled classes! |
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| 20:18.31 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth 07Modules * r59762 10mHud/DogTag/DogTag.lua: mHud: DogTag: don't freak if SmartFade isn't around. |
| 20:19.56 | kergoth | no cia eh, whered it run off to |
| 20:20.06 | kergoth | err, i'm blind |
| 20:20.10 | kergoth | silly tab completion |
| 20:20.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:20.44 | Gnarfoz | anyone got the "Deus Ex - each time you mention it, someone reinstalls ist" de/motivator picture around? |
| 20:21.54 | Karl1297 | something special to consider before branching an addon? |
| 20:23.57 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07Julith * r59763 10Grid/: Grid: branched to replace GridStatusHeal by new one supporting incoming heals with LibHealComm |
| 20:25.06 | Gnarfoz | another lib doing the same thing as the one in use now? |
| 20:25.23 | Gnarfoz | (seemed to work fine) |
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| 20:26.03 | Julith | castcomm doesn't provide information on amount of heal, end-time and the caster |
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| 20:27.50 | Gnarfoz | hm. I just hope our healers' bandwidth doesn't get chewed up ^^ |
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| 20:31.32 | Julith | in fact it whould propably become less channel spam because LibHealComm only broadcasts heals |
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| 20:31.52 | Julith | castcomm is starting to talk at every cast someone does |
| 20:32.48 | Chompers | pitbull cast bar is screwed up :< |
| 20:32.56 | Stanzilla | wasn't LibHealComm made to replace all the other Healcomm libs to form one standard? |
| 20:32.58 | Ellipsis- | how so Chompers? |
| 20:32.59 | Chompers | it's not showing the name of the cast |
| 20:33.12 | Ellipsis- | the text was switched to a dogtag |
| 20:33.15 | Ellipsis- | you might need to recreate it |
| 20:33.29 | Chompers | ah right, thanks |
| 20:33.40 | Julith | stanzilla: yes |
| 20:33.52 | Stanzilla | Julith: kk :) |
| 20:35.19 | Primer | I'm a bit confused regarding these SVN instructions. First let me say that I'm very familiar with SVN, use it every day. I've been given 3 URLs. What exactly is meant by "Your externals should be set to URL"? |
| 20:36.28 | Chompers | Ellipsis-: fixed it :) |
| 20:37.21 | Ellipsis- | :) |
| 20:38.41 | Zariel | how can you get the ItemCount of the stack at a specific slot,bag |
| 20:42.01 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9, currently 45% off via preorder! | Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. |
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| 20:42.41 | Chompers | hmm, its still not showing the name |
| 20:42.43 | Chompers | weird :S |
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| 20:44.09 | Chompers | its like an empty cast bar, i remember this happening before |
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| 20:50.16 | Primer | Anyone around willing to help me make sense of these SVN instructions? Of the 3 URLs...when should I export and commit to? |
| 20:50.31 | Primer | err s/when/which/ |
| 20:51.15 | Kivin | Primer: Set externals to svn.wowace.com, and everything else to dev.wowace.com |
| 20:51.46 | Primer | that's one thing I don't get |
| 20:51.53 | Primer | externals |
| 20:52.06 | Primer | I understand it when it comes to JWU and WAU |
| 20:52.13 | Primer | but not in the context of developing |
| 20:52.41 | Primer | I'm not producing any libraries |
| 20:53.36 | Kivin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 20:53.38 | Kivin | see the externals part |
| 20:54.21 | Kivin | externals in dev are exactly the same as externals in WAU |
| 20:54.45 | Kivin | they're (usually) shared code (ie: libs) which you inherit from other locations on the svn |
| 20:54.52 | Primer | ok, so it's an svn prop |
| 20:54.56 | Kivin | yes |
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| 20:55.35 | Primer | Kivin: would you mind reviewing my commit once I do it? I'd hate to think I'm not doing something correctly |
| 20:55.39 | Primer | I'm doing it now |
| 20:56.08 | Kivin | I'm probably less useful with svn than you, but alright? |
| 20:56.41 | Kivin | are you using tsvn? because i don't know the command line |
| 20:56.47 | Primer | no, I'm using eclipse |
| 20:57.00 | Primer | as I use Linux for everything |
| 20:57.08 | Primer | except playing WoW at home |
| 20:57.15 | Kivin | I'm not familiar with that, so you're kinda SOL with that end of things |
| 20:57.42 | Primer | that document seems to cover the basics though. I can translate to eclipse easily enough |
| 20:57.45 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07Julith * r59764 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridStatusHeals.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 20:57.45 | CIA-9 | Grid: |
| 20:57.46 | CIA-9 | - wiped GridStatusHeals clean |
| 20:57.46 | CIA-9 | - removed CastComm from libs and dependencies |
| 20:57.46 | CIA-9 | - removed Banzai from libs and dependencies |
| 20:58.06 | Primer | I'm mostly concerned that my layout and the embeds.xml will be ok |
| 20:58.21 | Zariel | Is the only way to move an item to pick it up and drop it? |
| 21:00.19 | Gnarfoz | is something replacing banzai, then? |
| 21:02.00 | Julith | no, it isn't used anymore by grid (as far as i can see) |
| 21:02.24 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:02.33 | Gnarfoz | carry on then ;) |
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| 21:06.11 | Primer | seems svn import won't make the top level directory, I have svn mkdir first, then import |
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| 21:07.19 | Primer | at least, that's what I've always observed as being the case |
| 21:07.19 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59765 10ASSinTrade/ (. ASSinTrade.lua ASSinTrade.toc): |
| 21:07.19 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: initial commit |
| 21:07.19 | CIA-9 | - This add-on will remove spam-ish chat from the Trade chat (it keeps based on patterns) and optionally shunt it to another chat window instead. |
| 21:08.53 | Fisker- | niiiiiiiiiice |
| 21:08.53 | Fisker- | ass |
| 21:08.57 | Fisker- | ass = win |
| 21:09.02 | Fisker- | but removing trade spam = :< |
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| 21:10.37 | Roath | im trying to count how much is in a table, but cant find a function that does it, anyone know where i can find one or read how to count correctly? the #(tablename) keeps returning 0 |
| 21:10.56 | array{Endeavour} | yeah check ur pm |
| 21:11.00 | Shirik|Ecole | if that's happening then you're not using a table with numeric indices starting at 1 |
| 21:11.11 | Shirik|Ecole | you're using a hash table |
| 21:11.20 | Shirik|Ecole | if that's the case you're going to have to iterate over the table with pairs and count it yourself |
| 21:11.21 | Kivin | local count = 0; for _, _ in pairs(t) do count = count + 1 end |
| 21:11.23 | Industrial | ~seen Kyahx |
| 21:11.24 | purl | kyahx <n=Kyahx@74-46-188-117.dsl2.mond.mn.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 157d 49m 29s ago, saying: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76ZIGQgBWg -- o.O'. |
| 21:11.28 | Industrial | .. |
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| 21:20.59 | CIA-9 | 03barfolomeu * r59766 10FlightHUD/ (9 files): |
| 21:20.59 | CIA-9 | FlightHUD: Initial import |
| 21:20.59 | CIA-9 | An addon that displays a fighter jey style Heads Up Display |
| 21:21.17 | Primer | there we go |
| 21:21.27 | Primer | bah, damn typo |
| 21:21.38 | Primer | I suck :( |
| 21:22.16 | chiper | you might wand to be more specific on that description |
| 21:22.29 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: what "node addons" will GatherHud from your branch work with right now? |
| 21:22.34 | Primer | well, the instructions read "brief description" |
| 21:22.40 | chiper | I think I'm not the only one who will see that and think "eh, yet another health display hud" |
| 21:22.56 | Primer | well, it's just the svn import |
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| 21:23.19 | chiper | how about "Heads-up-display that shows direction and pitch while flying." |
| 21:23.27 | Zariel | if Vim says "noeol" is that bad :O |
| 21:24.05 | chiper | isnt that description what's used on files.wowace? |
| 21:24.32 | Kivin | !ap 1782 |
| 21:24.32 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Arena points from a rating of 1782 is, 2v2: 557, 3v3: 644, 5v5: 732 |
| 21:24.33 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 21:24.35 | purl | methinks time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.01.30 21:24:35 GMT |
| 21:24.35 | Gnarfoz | chiper: no |
| 21:24.46 | Gnarfoz | chiper: the one from the .toc is used |
| 21:25.35 | Primer | chiper: sounds good. I'll change it to that |
| 21:26.30 | chiper | ah, ok |
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| 21:30.30 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59767 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 21:30.30 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 21:30.30 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 21:31.14 | Xinhuan | [1/31 05:22:21] <Gnarfoz> Xinhuan: what "node addons" will GatherHud from your branch work with right now? |
| 21:31.18 | Xinhuan | just gathermate/routes |
| 21:32.07 | Gnarfoz | does that include the "current/retail/whatchamacallit" Cartographer_Routes? or just ace3 versions |
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| 21:33.32 | Zariel | What should i set EOL to in vim? |
| 21:33.58 | Gnarfoz | whatever you like |
| 21:34.04 | Zariel | i dont know what i would liek :E |
| 21:34.06 | Gnarfoz | as long as you set eol:native in svn ;) |
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| 21:35.31 | CIA-9 | 03zariel * r59768 10/branches/AmmoGnome/ (. Zariel/ Zariel/AmmoGnome.lua Zariel/AmmoGnome.toc): |
| 21:35.31 | CIA-9 | AmmoGnome: |
| 21:35.31 | CIA-9 | - Ammo purchasing needs |
| 21:35.31 | CIA-9 | - Dry coded :E |
| 21:38.47 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if [Ammo] has been highlighted 4 times in the past 3 minutes now ;) |
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| 21:39.07 | Zariel | :> |
| 21:39.14 | Zariel | hell fun ill commit it every 2 mins |
| 21:39.26 | Xinhuan | haha ammo |
| 21:39.48 | Xinhuan | is that really buying ranged weapon ammo or just a reference to your name :D |
| 21:40.00 | Zariel | yeah it just buys ammo |
| 21:40.11 | Zariel | and i was going to call it, IBuyAmmoCusYouForget |
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| 21:41.07 | NeoTron | my dad is a teacher - he's added some lessons on using google's calculator / conversion tools after I showed it to him a year or so ago |
| 21:41.19 | NeoTron | pretty cool. I wonder why that feature isn't pushed harder - it's really useful |
| 21:41.44 | Ellipsis | there's no ad revenue from it? |
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| 21:42.49 | Roath | last question for me tonight :) how do i check if something is a table or not? |
| 21:42.58 | kergoth | if type(v) == "table" then |
| 21:43.06 | Roath | aah right |
| 21:43.08 | Roath | thanks |
| 21:43.14 | kergoth | lua.org's manual and pil both cover that, i'm sure :P |
| 21:43.19 | Zariel | yeah i know |
| 21:44.13 | Zariel | what lines that? |
| 21:45.09 | Zariel | i had that in an early rev but im sure i removed it :E |
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| 21:45.30 | Ellipsis` | darn it, all the good nicks are taken! |
| 21:46.10 | Gnarfoz | you don't have one yet, so obviously that statement is wrong |
| 21:47.18 | Zariel | but i cant even find that line if type(v) == "table" then because i removed it before commiting :E |
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| 21:48.08 | Zariel | oh lol not talking to me, facepalm |
| 21:49.18 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 21:55.36 | Chompers | fel reavers piston! awww yeah |
| 21:55.46 | Chompers | i get more gear on my alt than i do on my main |
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| 21:59.14 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59769 10/branches/mHud/ (13 files in 13 dirs): mHud: Rewrote storage handling, not complete. |
| 22:02.06 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: I was in fear my alt paladin might be full epics before my actual main, because my damn cloak didn't drop off Aran. for a YEAR. :| |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r59770 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-9 | BigBrother: |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 22:04.15 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59771 10ASSinTrade/Libs/: |
| 22:04.15 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: |
| 22:04.15 | CIA-9 | - Add Libs folder |
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| 22:05.37 | sb_ | Recount-$Revision: 59730 $\Recount.lua:1049: attempt to call method 'RegisterInfoType' (a nil value) |
| 22:05.38 | sb_ | hmm :o |
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| 22:05.43 | Drew | <--- svn noobie. how would i do the following using tortise svn? |
| 22:05.44 | Drew | I'd recommend doing a svn copy to create a Tag of the addon and then doing svn remove on the trunk path |
| 22:05.44 | Drew | this will leave a archived version of it available for people to see and/or work with but remove it from the updater |
| 22:06.40 | Ozguli` | rate this sshot on 10-10 scale http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/Maces.jpg |
| 22:06.55 | Ozguli` | or 1-10 if you like it more |
| 22:07.05 | [dRaCo] | there's a gnome on it, -10 |
| 22:07.26 | Ozguli` | now tell me why you hate gnomes |
| 22:07.52 | Ozguli` | they're small and you hate it when you get stunlocked by them |
| 22:07.57 | Twist- | Have you ever tried to clean gnome out of your hooves? It's disgusting. |
| 22:08.12 | [dRaCo] | they're ugly, their dancing sucks, they are too small |
| 22:08.30 | Ozguli` | ugly compared to what? |
| 22:08.39 | Ozguli` | you clearly play the orcs and undead |
| 22:09.36 | Megalon | gnomes don't do the mc hammer |
| 22:09.39 | [dRaCo] | male gnomes? ugly compared to everything but magtheridon himself |
| 22:09.39 | Megalon | so orcs win |
| 22:09.50 | Ozguli` | bleh |
| 22:09.56 | Ozguli` | you have too much hate |
| 22:10.06 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-9 | 03crashmstr * r59772 10ASSinTrade/ (ASSinTrade.lua ASSinTrade.toc): |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-9 | ASSinTrade: |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-9 | - added Id to svn:keywords |
| 22:12.37 | Grum | lua> print(sqrt(4)) |
| 22:12.37 | lua_bot | Grum: 2 |
| 22:12.42 | Grum | lua> print(math.sqrt(4)) |
| 22:12.42 | lua_bot | Grum: 2 |
| 22:13.31 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r59773 10EnhancedColourPicker/EnhancedColourPicker.lua: EnhancedColourPicker: Moved EditBoxes |
| 22:15.07 | ckknight_ | ~framexml |
| 22:15.07 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
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| 22:19.42 | xyu | s |
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| 22:20.18 | Plorbolartsuil | Hello, everyone, any Addon junkies in here? lol |
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| 22:20.27 | Ellipsis-- | what's an addon? |
| 22:20.34 | Plorbolartsuil | lol |
| 22:20.58 | xyu | lol!!!! |
| 22:21.06 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43106843945&sid=1#156 <->:O |
| 22:21.08 | Kirkburn | Careful, he might be serious :P Can't trust that Ellipsis |
| 22:21.15 | Plorbolartsuil | I'm having an error pop-up constantly and I dont know if I can simply ignore it, or if I should try to remedy it. |
| 22:21.16 | Ellipsis-- | he? |
| 22:21.17 | xyu | she |
| 22:21.22 | Twist- | Ellipsis--: A firefox extension, I think. |
| 22:21.23 | Plorbolartsuil | :) |
| 22:21.25 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 22:21.32 | Kirkburn | My apologies :) |
| 22:21.34 | Ellipsis-- | oh, ok Twist- |
| 22:21.47 | Ellipsis-- | hm, tastes sincere enough |
| 22:21.53 | Kirkburn | Hey now, DuTempete wouldn't be pleased :P |
| 22:22.16 | CIA-9 | 03dreww * r59774 10/tags/ProxDim/: |
| 22:22.16 | CIA-9 | ProxDim: |
| 22:22.16 | CIA-9 | -tagging |
| 22:22.54 | Plorbolartsuil | The errors I get are from VanSKoS, Auctioneer, and AceLib2.0 & FuBarPlugin2.0. |
| 22:23.13 | Kirkburn | (she's mah girlfriend, and I iz proud, can you tell?) (I iz also kitteh!) |
| 22:23.24 | Kirkburn | Plorbolartsuil, what kind of errors? |
| 22:23.31 | Ellipsis-- | lol Kirkburn, I sure can tell |
| 22:23.45 | Ellipsis-- | don't worry, I'm not plotting to steal you from her, I has my ckknight ^-^ |
| 22:23.54 | Kirkburn | Does you!? |
| 22:23.58 | Ellipsis-- | I does! |
| 22:24.04 | Plorbolartsuil | : ...rface\AddOns\VanasKoS\modules\DistributedTracker.lua line 294: |
| 22:24.04 | Plorbolartsuil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.06 | Plorbolartsuil | is one |
| 22:24.16 | Fisker- | >:O ABOUT DAMNIT |
| 22:24.22 | Kirkburn | Plorbolartsuil, completely up to date too? (have to ask) |
| 22:24.23 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43106843945&sid=1#156 <- JUST >:O DAMNIT |
| 22:24.25 | Ellipsis-- | Plorbolartsuil: post all the error messages on http://ace.pastey.net |
| 22:24.32 | Ellipsis-- | and then give us the link :) |
| 22:24.41 | Plorbolartsuil | ok |
| 22:25.26 | chiper | fisker: hah, Rock just got replaced |
| 22:25.33 | Kirkburn | o_O |
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| 22:26.01 | Ellipsis-- | lolwut Fisker- |
| 22:26.18 | Kirkburn | holy heck |
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| 22:27.45 | Plorbolartsuil | what do I click after pasting the error(s)? |
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| 22:28.13 | Ellipsis-- | click the button to upload it, and it will give you a link to the entry |
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| 22:28.58 | chiper | whoa, the top of that page fisker linked is very interesting. that's a MUCH cooler way to handle equip sets |
| 22:29.01 | Plorbolartsuil | Hmmmm, I dont see the upload button |
| 22:29.10 | Stanzilla | woaah nice Fisker- |
| 22:29.12 | chiper | damn, I really like that idea |
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| 22:29.34 | Ellipsis-- | Plorbolartsuil: it's a little button below the text box that says "Paste" |
| 22:29.52 | Plorbolartsuil | http://ace.pastey.net/81498-306g |
| 22:29.53 | Plorbolartsuil | ty |
| 22:31.07 | Ellipsis-- | the auctioneer one was a known issue in auctioneer classic from a recent patch (2.3.2 I think?) |
| 22:31.13 | Plorbolartsuil | My basic question is I seem to have these errors pretty consistently even if only one of the offending addons is installed at a time |
| 22:31.17 | Ellipsis-- | not sure if it's been fixed, you can try updating it |
| 22:31.33 | Plorbolartsuil | and is there a way to disable these errors from popping up |
| 22:31.33 | Ellipsis-- | the fubar plugin one is a known issue that hasn't yet been fixed |
| 22:31.44 | Ellipsis-- | yeah, get rid of swatter |
| 22:32.13 | Plorbolartsuil | would it be safe to just disable it in the addons, or would you reccomend removing it from that directory? |
| 22:32.14 | Wobin | Fisker-: repaste that link? |
| 22:32.31 | chiper | you can set swatter to ignore errors |
| 22:32.32 | Ellipsis-- | [2:23:07 pm] <Fisker-> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43106843945&sid=1#156 |
| 22:32.37 | Wobin | ta |
| 22:33.15 | Plorbolartsuil | then I've probably just got so may addons that its having a field day with errors that are safe to simply ignore? |
| 22:33.48 | Ellipsis-- | well, errors are generally a bad thing |
| 22:33.53 | Plorbolartsuil | The addons seem to function, withough any problems, they dont cause wow to crash or anything. |
| 22:34.02 | Kirkburn | "generally"? :P |
| 22:34.08 | Plorbolartsuil | As in... |
| 22:34.21 | Plorbolartsuil | They seem to work properly before and after a error shows up |
| 22:34.27 | chiper | Plorbolartsuil: are you clearing the error cache when you disable these? |
| 22:34.30 | Ellipsis-- | some can be safely ignored (your auctioneer problem for example) as they don't cause any loss of functionality |
| 22:34.40 | chiper | swatter stores errors between sessions |
| 22:34.43 | Wobin | hm |
| 22:34.50 | Plorbolartsuil | no, I havent cleared that cache for weeks, lol |
| 22:34.54 | Wobin | yeah, sort of like in Diablo 2 |
| 22:35.07 | chiper | so if you hit the previous button, you're going to get old errors |
| 22:35.09 | Wobin | have separate slots for different sets |
| 22:35.13 | chiper | you have to look at the timestamps |
| 22:35.31 | NeoTron | anyone have a good enhancement shammy thread ? |
| 22:35.34 | chiper | wobin: it's a fucking awesome feature if it happens |
| 22:35.44 | NeoTron | Seems ours likes to go all str gems... and has just 122 hit rating |
| 22:35.50 | Plorbolartsuil | In the 2 months that I've had THIS fresh install, I think its tallied up maybe 50 errors |
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| 22:35.55 | NeoTron | I suspect going a lot for hit would be a major win over str or am I wrong? |
| 22:36.11 | Wobin | NeoTron: Generally until you reach the hitcap yes |
| 22:36.21 | Plorbolartsuil | all of which dont seem to affect the functionality of the addons in reference in them. |
| 22:36.24 | chiper | plor: do /swat clear and reload your UI. when it's all loaded, /swat show |
| 22:36.30 | chiper | see if you have new errors |
| 22:36.47 | NeoTron | what would the hitcap be for an enhancement shammy? |
| 22:36.56 | NeoTron | I know own of our rogues has just over 300 hit rating |
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| 22:37.21 | Plorbolartsuil | ok, brb, eta 5 minutes, sometimes it takes moving around to trigger that window. |
| 22:37.47 | Wobin | NeoTron: Possibly simliarly so, since you're both melee =) |
| 22:37.51 | Megalon | NeoTron: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13297-enhance_shaman_collected_works_theorycraft_vol_i/ there is a section about +hit in the post |
| 22:38.56 | NeoTron | well.. not me but yeah :P |
| 22:39.14 | Wobin | aha |
| 22:39.19 | Wobin | well there you go |
| 22:39.22 | Wobin | not as important as you'd imagine |
| 22:40.16 | xyu | asdf |
| 22:40.42 | CIA-9 | 03dreww * r59775 10ProxDim/: ProxDim: RemovingTrunk |
| 22:41.07 | NeoTron | so I see |
| 22:41.13 | NeoTron | using +str seems like the way to go |
| 22:41.26 | Wobin | ah, I have a better understanding about rogues hit tables now =P |
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| 22:46.11 | Plorbolartsuil | ok, got 1 error after 2 minutes+ http://ace.pastey.net/81501-21au |
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| 22:47.16 | Plorbolartsuil | and the clear reloadui & show |
| 22:48.02 | NeoTron | so I think the main issue our shammy has is lack of consistent use of shocks |
| 22:50.20 | NeoTron | in addition to gear level in general |
| 22:51.47 | kergoth | a shaman that doesn't use their shocks? what the.. |
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| 22:52.57 | Kaelten | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/30/2053230&from=rss |
| 22:53.02 | Plorbolartsuil | So is this a known error? |
| 22:53.09 | NeoTron | he does |
| 22:53.17 | NeoTron | one fight I was looking at he didn't really |
| 22:53.19 | NeoTron | not sure why |
| 22:53.39 | NeoTron | while on another one he did use them reasonbl consistently (and did >1000 DPS too which given his gear is ok) |
| 22:55.39 | Plorbolartsuil | Ellpsis? |
| 22:55.57 | Ellipsis | hi? |
| 22:56.21 | Plorbolartsuil | did you get that link to my last cut-paste? the swatter issue? |
| 22:56.29 | Plorbolartsuil | http://ace.pastey.net/81501-21au |
| 22:56.30 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 22:56.32 | Plorbolartsuil | ok |
| 22:56.45 | Ellipsis | it's a lib load order problem, don't worry about it unless it's actually causing issues for you in-game |
| 22:57.14 | Plorbolartsuil | it isnt, which is good... |
| 22:58.31 | Plorbolartsuil | Oh, and I remember being able to access swatter's settings, But now I cant seem to find them since I upgraded to Auctioneer suite 5 (pre-release), did they change the location, perhaps? |
| 22:58.56 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59776 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - take preliminary steps for ingame documentation |
| 23:02.57 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r59777 10Skinner/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:02.57 | CIA-9 | Skinner: Skinned GuildEventManager2 & BaudAuction |
| 23:02.57 | CIA-9 | - Updated TipTac & CowTip skins |
| 23:02.57 | CIA-9 | - Now uses SharedMedia to manage Textures |
| 23:02.58 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59778 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: remove timer fidling |
| 23:05.11 | Gnarfoz | new dogtag stuff on my pitbull castbar = :\ sometimes: no spell name. sometimes: spell name gray/50% alpha. sometimes: spell name white/100% alpha. also a lot of dimming/fading-in/out going on. must check settings :D |
| 23:05.20 | aestil | wtf ckknight, in game documentation??? like a drop down list that will display what tags there are, and what they do? |
| 23:05.46 | ckknight | more like an ingame documentation viewer |
| 23:05.50 | ckknight | with syntax help |
| 23:05.55 | ckknight | and what each tag does |
| 23:05.58 | ckknight | with examples |
| 23:06.02 | ckknight | categorized et al |
| 23:06.03 | aestil | that would make it alot more powerful. |
| 23:06.07 | ckknight | I know. |
| 23:06.09 | aestil | since its basically arcane knowledge right now. |
| 23:06.17 | ckknight | I know it all ;-) |
| 23:06.27 | Gnarfoz | ckk is a mage, then |
| 23:06.35 | ckknight | I have a lvl 15 mage |
| 23:06.39 | aestil | Xinhuan: when is your gatherer+route project going to push to trunk? |
| 23:07.18 | aestil | ckknight: your pally 70 yet? |
| 23:07.18 | ckknight | still 60 |
| 23:07.18 | Gnarfoz | don't ever level up, please, you're already that far ahead of us all ;p |
| 23:07.24 | ckknight | ? |
| 23:07.33 | ckknight | but if I get to 70, I'll be inclined to make raid mods |
| 23:07.35 | CIA-9 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r59779 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 23:07.35 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 23:07.35 | CIA-9 | - Completely rewrote the buff/debuff scanner. Garbage generation reduced to absolute minimum, uses mainly strings that are already interned and is roughly 80%-100% faster than the previous implementation. |
| 23:07.35 | CIA-9 | - Added support for a large number of additional buffs/debuffs that affect healing. |
| 23:07.37 | CIA-9 | - Renamed UnitCastingHealInfoGet to UnitCastingHealGet for consistency with other library calls. |
| 23:07.56 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: no, your mage ;) |
| 23:08.03 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:08.12 | ckknight | gonna watch Bella with Ellipsis now |
| 23:08.31 | Gnarfoz | hf, whoever that is :D |
| 23:08.41 | Chompers | ckk, after your show can i ask you some programming questions? |
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| 23:08.55 | Kivin | Chompers: You might want to just ask the room at large |
| 23:08.57 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 23:08.57 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 23:09.08 | Chompers | aye, but im such a fucking idiot at it |
| 23:09.12 | Chompers | people will laugh |
| 23:09.14 | Kivin | ... |
| 23:09.18 | ckknight | Chompers: yea, sure |
| 23:09.24 | ckknight | depending |
| 23:09.32 | ckknight | I want to work on the DogTag viewer |
| 23:10.06 | Xinhuan | [1/31 07:06:31] <aestil> Xinhuan: when is your gatherer+route project going to push to trunk? |
| 23:10.14 | Xinhuan | when ace3 is done |
| 23:10.17 | aestil | ah. |
| 23:10.30 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: so.. never? :) |
| 23:10.37 | Xinhuan | seems like it |
| 23:10.41 | NeoTron | considering how I can't imagine a framework like ace3 is never truly done |
| 23:11.22 | nevcairiel | software in general is never done |
| 23:11.24 | Xinhuan | mikk's been slacking |
| 23:12.09 | Stanzilla | isn't it hC the world is waiting for? |
| 23:12.26 | Plorbolartsuil | Thank You Elipsis, Chiper & the rest who have helped. Your help has been very helpful and seemed to have remedied my problem, ty... |
| 23:12.38 | Plorbolartsuil | Dang that was redundant |
| 23:12.48 | Plorbolartsuil | redunditis |
| 23:12.57 | Ellipsis-- | you're welcome for helping you with helpful help |
| 23:12.59 | Ellipsis-- | =] |
| 23:13.14 | Plorbolartsuil | :) |
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| 23:13.43 | Kivin | could someone who understands secure templates have a look at: http://ace.pastey.net/81506 |
| 23:14.04 | Kivin | The first bit is my working code. I'm trying to figure out how to configure an action button to use an item on one state and a spell on another |
| 23:14.27 | Kivin | and yes, i missed a quote on line 9. |
| 23:18.32 | Xinhuan | you can't do that |
| 23:18.38 | Xinhuan | "type" attribute can only map to one thing |
| 23:18.51 | Forte|Xus | this:SetAttribute("type1" ,"spell"); |
| 23:18.51 | Forte|Xus | this:SetAttribute("spell", "myspellname"); |
| 23:18.51 | Forte|Xus | this:SetAttribute("*type2", "item"); |
| 23:18.51 | Forte|Xus | this:SetAttribute("*item2", "myitemname"); |
| 23:19.00 | Forte|Xus | works for my addon :) |
| 23:19.10 | Xinhuan | yeah but that's using different button clicks |
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| 23:19.19 | Xinhuan | i.e left click casts spell, right click uses item |
| 23:19.36 | Forte|Xus | ah yeh he meant states :( |
| 23:19.42 | Xinhuan | if you want to use the same itemclick for different states |
| 23:20.02 | Xinhuan | then you really want action bar paging of sorts, |
| 23:20.03 | Xinhuan | afk |
| 23:20.09 | Kivin | Hmm... |
| 23:20.09 | Wobin | The sad truth is that noone actually understands secure templates |
| 23:20.14 | Wobin | outside of maybe iriel =P |
| 23:20.23 | Kivin | Iriel couldn't have possibly made a worse system |
| 23:20.43 | Wobin | I'm sure it makes perfect sense from the inside |
| 23:20.59 | Wobin | It's just somewhat of an unassailable fortress atm =P |
| 23:21.26 | Kivin | The fact that it's not documented barely at all, and so confusing to everyone that it's pretty much impossible to document, tells me that *something* failed a year ago when it was put in play |
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| 23:22.02 | Gnarfoz | I heard the UI code is pretty thoroughly documented, to a point where it gets confusing to read it instead of just trying it out ;D |
| 23:22.12 | Kivin | The secure templates stuff isn't |
| 23:22.21 | Kivin | There's a lot of words, but not a lot of useful stuff in black and white |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-9 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r59780 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-9 | - Some additional tweaks + fix small bug |
| 23:22.42 | Kivin | It mostly assumes an intimate knowledge of it from the inside out. It feels more like the author explaining things to himself than a lesson on how to put it into play |
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| 23:23.30 | ag` | hey Forte|Xus, Hyrma still playing? |
| 23:23.42 | Kivin | I'm not convinced that you can't inject different 'type' behavior into a secure button based on states |
| 23:24.02 | Forte|Xus | ag`: no :( |
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| 23:24.32 | kergoth | the secure state stuff is actually pretty elegant, just not intuitive |
| 23:25.26 | ag` | yeah, I guess he quit around the time you moved to Boulderfist |
| 23:26.01 | Wobin | kergoth: Well, yes, but that intuitive leap from reading to understanding is beyond a lot of us =P |
| 23:26.05 | kergoth | Kivin: maybe line 244 of http://git.kergoth.com/wow/Prospector/tree/Prospector.lua will help, thats a very simple state change on an actionbutton |
| 23:26.19 | kergoth | that one goes from casting prospect to a NOOP, but you get the idea |
| 23:26.21 | Kalroth | Yeah, thanks for ruining a perfectly good server! Now tons of wankers will come to BF, in hopes of joining Forte or LR! |
| 23:26.34 | ag` | lol |
| 23:26.34 | Wobin | Kalroth: You're welcome? |
| 23:26.37 | Forte|Xus | :P |
| 23:26.51 | Kalroth | Wobin: Wasn't for you :P |
| 23:26.53 | ag` | Boulderfist was deserted before though |
| 23:26.53 | Kivin | kergoth: i'll look at it in a sec when i've finished goofin around with what i'm doing |
| 23:26.55 | Kivin | thanks |
| 23:27.30 | Kalroth | ag`: That's true, didn't have any BT clearing guilds before |
| 23:27.45 | Kalroth | ag`: I guess it does more good than bad really :p |
| 23:29.52 | Kivin | Xinhuan: my pastey worked perfectly |
| 23:30.06 | Kivin | So you can, indeed, use "type-[statename]" |
| 23:31.27 | ag` | :P |
| 23:32.04 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 23:32.08 | Xinhuan | i'll keep that in mind |
| 23:32.33 | Kivin | Well, to be fair, I can't validate that "spell-stealth", "sap" is working, i'm just getting a "you have no target" on my screen. but it's a good guess |
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| 23:36.53 | Killmore2 | ckknight? |
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| 23:38.37 | Plorbo | Hello guys, I'm back with another question, this one should be easy though. Does this server have a channel for Auctioneer chat? |
| 23:38.47 | Kivin | #norganna, i think |
| 23:38.58 | Plorbo | Since my question is related to that addon. |
| 23:39.03 | Plorbo | ok, cool thanks |
| 23:39.10 | Plorbo | #norganna |
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| 23:40.23 | Killmore2 | anyone where use pitbull or cowtip ? |
| 23:40.33 | aestil | i use both. |
| 23:40.34 | SunTsu | Killmore2: Both |
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| 23:40.52 | Firelemming | hi all |
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| 23:41.02 | hypetech | the last commit of pitbull is broke :( |
| 23:41.04 | Killmore2 | k, can you do a Wau update and try it ? since the last update everything is broken |
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| 23:41.18 | Plorbo | Thank You Kivin. |
| 23:41.25 | Killmore2 | hypetech: same problem on my side :( |
| 23:41.37 | SunTsu | broken in what way? |
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| 23:41.42 | Diao | mine works fine as of 40 min ago |
| 23:41.57 | SunTsu | There is no newer version than mine and it worked for me |
| 23:41.59 | Firelemming | I am trying to understand how to work with the tables.insert but i need some help with it. can somebody look at http://ace.pastey.net/81508 and tell me what im doing wrong? |
| 23:42.07 | Killmore2 | [17:58] <CIA-9> ckknight * r59776 LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - take preliminary steps for ingame documentation |
| 23:42.11 | Killmore2 | since this one |
| 23:42.19 | Killmore2 | [2008/01/30 18:22:33-416-x1]: LibDogTag-2.0\LibDogTag-2.0.lua:1766: unfinished string near ''[Text(Hello):PowerColor] => ' |
| 23:42.19 | Killmore2 | LibRock-1.0-40347 (LibRock-1.0):1401: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:1376> |
| 23:42.19 | Killmore2 | LibRock-1.0-40347 (LibRock-1.0):1659: in function `Rock' |
| 23:42.19 | Killmore2 | CowTip-2.0r59598\Text\Text.lua:84: in main chunk |
| 23:42.19 | kergoth | Firelemming: www.lua.org. documentation link. read |
| 23:42.35 | Firelemming | kergoth i did it alot |
| 23:42.53 | kergoth | apparently not enough |
| 23:43.02 | SunTsu | Killmore2: OK, I don't have that version of libdogtag |
| 23:43.11 | Killmore2 | SunTsu: dont take it :P |
| 23:43.24 | SunTsu | Killmore2: I won't, thanks |
| 23:43.33 | hypetech | SunTsu: /pitbull isn't working and I've got all default frames |
| 23:43.39 | Firelemming | but i cant find or see how to insert something with a key. all the examples do it without keys |
| 23:43.43 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59782 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix a syntax issue |
| 23:43.44 | CIA-9 | 03julith 07Julith * r59781 10Grid/ (GridStatusHeals.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 23:43.44 | CIA-9 | Grid: |
| 23:43.44 | CIA-9 | - added LibHealComm-3.0 (together with LibGratuity-3.0 and LibBabble-Spell-3.0) to libs and dependencies |
| 23:43.44 | CIA-9 | - added incoming heals status which shows incoming heals as indicator or as text with the amount of incoming heal |
| 23:43.47 | CIA-9 | - added option to ignore own heals |
| 23:43.58 | kergoth | table.insert operates on tables that act like arrays. |
| 23:44.00 | Killmore2 | thx ckknight :P |
| 23:44.04 | kergoth | t["foo"] = 1 |
| 23:44.12 | kergoth | this is all in the documentation. |
| 23:44.48 | Chompers | that grid change is awesome |
| 23:45.00 | Firelemming | when i try its adding a new table |
| 23:45.26 | Grum | Chompers: it is but will only work if every healer has the libs |
| 23:45.31 | Chompers | aye |
| 23:45.42 | Chompers | i'm slowly converting my guild to grid |
| 23:46.18 | Hobby | i'm slowly converting my guild to canabalism |
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| 23:46.23 | kergoth | Firelemming: what? |
| 23:46.40 | Firelemming | look at my pastey |
| 23:46.58 | kergoth | Firelemming: http://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html |
| 23:47.07 | aestil | Ellipsis--: can you rebuild my UI, to look like my UI, but with all new frames, scripts and wtf files? |
| 23:47.14 | hypetech | o.0 |
| 23:47.44 | aestil | something isn't right. autobar breaks my scripts, and all my quartz buff timer bars animate terribly. |
| 23:47.46 | kergoth | Firelemming: you need to read. |
| 23:47.57 | kergoth | replace line 2 with t["green"] = "apple" |
| 23:48.04 | kergoth | as shown in the link i gave you, among others |
| 23:48.11 | Julith | grum: the plan is to make LibHealComm the standart communication library |
| 23:48.18 | Julith | (for heals) |
| 23:48.26 | Firelemming | What is all the table.insert all about then? |
| 23:49.01 | Grum | Julith: hope it gets bundled with threath :P |
| 23:49.04 | Gnarfoz | good luck with that, then |
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| 23:49.44 | Julith | grum: why? |
| 23:51.08 | Grum | spreads faster |
| 23:51.13 | Gnarfoz | because threat, via Omen, is probably one of the best-spread addons out there right now |
| 23:51.15 | kergoth | Firelemming: table.insert and table.remove operate against -arrays-. tables, whose values are all monotonically increasing integers, like t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"} or t = {[1] = "foo", [2] = "bar", [3] = "baz"} |
| 23:51.19 | Grum | yup |
| 23:51.28 | kergoth | Firelemming: see the documentation on tables, and the section on table.insert and table.remove |
| 23:51.32 | Grum | ah well .. bedtime :P |
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| 23:52.12 | breser | Ahh yes the joys of lua tables and the horrid interface we have been given to operate on them. |
| 23:52.14 | Gnarfoz | alas, a healing communication library has next to nothing to do with threat management, so the point is more academic |
| 23:52.36 | durcyn | ckknight: LibDogTag-2.0.lau:866: Error indexing L["Compare argument and value, hide if not equal"] |
| 23:52.51 | hypetech | .lau lol |
| 23:53.05 | ckknight | oops, dang |
| 23:53.48 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59783 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix indexing issue with L |
| 23:53.53 | Firelemming | kergoth i know about the documentation i wouldnt ask here if i didnt. but when i copy the examples from the tables.insert i get different results then what is in the documentation. so thats why i ask here what i am doing wrong. anyway, ty for your help, and ill will try some more |
| 23:54.25 | kergoth | no, the documentation doesn't use table.insert the way you were trying to. |
| 23:55.09 | Firelemming | indeed, because i was trying to use a key, but couldnt get it working. if it isnt possible that way, enlight me :P |
| 23:55.47 | breser | The ultimate problem is tables can be just about any data structure. |
| 23:55.49 | breser | But... |
| 23:56.01 | kagaro | who handles AceConfig-3.0 and AceGUI-3.0 atm? |
| 23:56.03 | breser | table.insert et al assume you're using them only as arrays. |
| 23:56.18 | breser | A mighty big assumption given the flexibility of them. |
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