| 00:00.49 | Grum | a replacement for Cartographer_(Herbalism|Fishing|Mining|ExtractGas|Professions) |
| 00:01.12 | Pkekyo| | oh...dependant on any specific map addon? |
| 00:02.05 | Gnarfoz | no, and that's the idea, I guess |
| 00:02.43 | Pkekyo| | cool...is gatherhud up on the wiki? |
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| 00:08.53 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:09.03 | Xinhuan | gatherhud is only a recent development, just coded like... today |
| 00:09.10 | Xinhuan | code is barely 200 lines as well |
| 00:10.43 | vithos | i don't guess there's a screenshot yet? |
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| 00:11.05 | kergoth | it's not unlike gatherer's hud, but without the trail showing where you've been |
| 00:11.28 | Bobblybook | does anyone know how to set Mirc to login to NickServ at startup? |
| 00:12.22 | Kivin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.30 | chiper | any nvidia gurus here? |
| 00:12.34 | Kivin | /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 00:12.48 | Bobblybook | ok tyvm |
| 00:13.20 | Pkekyo| | kergoth: how does gatherer's hud look? :p |
| 00:13.24 | Lukian | ~asktoask chiper |
| 00:13.49 | Lukian | you can't give a username as an argument? :/ |
| 00:13.54 | Lukian | ~asktoask |
| 00:13.54 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 00:14.08 | Amadeo | Can I ask a question? |
| 00:14.19 | chiper | just hooked up a second monitor and cant figure out how to make it extend over. it isnt showing under the Settings tab, and when I go into nvidia's control panel my only option is to span both monitors as if it were one. |
| 00:14.25 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 00:14.26 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:14.26 | Gngsk | Amadeo, no |
| 00:14.26 | SunTsu | Amadeo: I think, so, because you just did ;) |
| 00:14.29 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:14.33 | chiper | I was typing, Lukian |
| 00:14.38 | Kivin | ~lart Amadeo |
| 00:14.38 | purl | smacks Amadeo up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 00:14.44 | Amadeo | Maybe that WAS my question! |
| 00:14.51 | Amadeo | Now what! |
| 00:15.09 | SunTsu | Amadeo: The reflective type, huh? ;) |
| 00:15.12 | chiper | I want it to just add the extra monitor, not treat it as if it were part of the other |
| 00:15.25 | Amadeo | SunTsu: I'm wearing aluminium foil |
| 00:16.03 | Lukian | chiper, under windows? You just go to display properties and choose "extend my desktop onto this monitor" |
| 00:16.16 | CIA-9 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59555 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua: ag_UnitFrames: XP bar font size change |
| 00:16.29 | chiper | that's my problem, nvidia's drivers remove those controls |
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| 00:16.47 | chiper | on my ATI machine I have those options |
| 00:16.58 | Lukian | latest drivers? |
| 00:17.02 | sb | Grum: new screenshot? :p |
| 00:17.15 | Grum | not really |
| 00:17.18 | chiper | yup |
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| 00:17.57 | chiper | nvidia has some funky special desktop spanning that really isnt appropriate for gaming |
| 00:18.29 | SunTsu | chiper: You can adjust that |
| 00:18.44 | chiper | SunTsu: where at? |
| 00:19.05 | SunTsu | chiper: You have the choice whether two screens are treated like one big screen or two seperate ones. |
| 00:19.18 | SunTsu | chiper: Under nvidia settings. |
| 00:19.26 | chiper | my only options are Single, Clone, or Horizontal Span |
| 00:19.43 | SunTsu | chiper: Got the latest tools? |
| 00:20.13 | chiper | prtty sure I do, I guess I can check again |
| 00:20.24 | chiper | I just installed this card about two months ago |
| 00:21.11 | Xinhuan | gatherhud: uses 65 kb of ram |
| 00:21.12 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:21.14 | Amadeo | I was just thinking about early WoW when the Warlocks on my server finally hit 60...I remember everyone was trying to figure out where the Doomguard and stuff came from |
| 00:21.15 | SunTsu | chiper: Can't look where exactly because I got rid of my windows some days ago but I am really sure I had one screen vor WoW and one for my browser |
| 00:21.21 | Xinhuan | next to nothing |
| 00:21.31 | chiper | sun: yeah, thats exactly what I'd like to setup |
| 00:21.50 | Pkekyo| | chiperI want it to just add the extra monitor, not treat it as if it were part of the other <--- duplicate one of them? |
| 00:21.56 | Bobblybook | my friend has a setup like that |
| 00:22.01 | Bobblybook | but he's away for a few days atm |
| 00:22.02 | SunTsu | chiper: Then you really need to do windowed mode - else you have problems switching between the screens |
| 00:22.05 | Bobblybook | so I can't ask |
| 00:22.11 | chiper | SunTsu: ah, crap |
| 00:22.44 | SunTsu | chiper: Like you have to leave WoW in order to get to the other screen by alt-tabbing or such |
| 00:23.07 | chiper | I may just abandon this idea, card will probably perform better with a single screen anyway |
| 00:23.18 | chiper | but I had an extra monitor so I thought, hey, why not |
| 00:23.25 | SunTsu | chiper: What kind of card is it? |
| 00:23.32 | chiper | 8600gtx |
| 00:23.55 | CIA-9 | 03grum 07Ace3 * r59556 10GatherHud/ (Artwork/hud_border.tga GatherHud.lua): |
| 00:23.55 | CIA-9 | GatherHud: |
| 00:23.56 | CIA-9 | - New graphic for border, also shows when changing hud_x/y |
| 00:24.01 | SunTsu | chiper: How much RAM? |
| 00:24.06 | chiper | 1GB |
| 00:24.13 | SunTsu | The card? ;) |
| 00:24.23 | chiper | oh, heh |
| 00:24.33 | chiper | 256 I think, I'd have to check |
| 00:24.52 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59557 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: clock works fine now |
| 00:25.09 | chiper | yeah, 256 |
| 00:25.11 | SunTsu | Should do. I have a 8600GTS. OK, it's the one with 512MB but I don't think a second screen would make that neccessary |
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| 00:25.40 | Mudkipz | 8600 is trash |
| 00:25.55 | Mudkipz | wait... |
| 00:25.58 | chiper | ah, it would seem my drivers ARE out of date |
| 00:25.59 | Mudkipz | what are you doing? |
| 00:26.17 | SunTsu | Mudkipz: For WoW it is enough, by far |
| 00:26.25 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 00:26.28 | Mudkipz | hmm I guess |
| 00:26.56 | chiper | yeah, so the only thing this card has had problems with is UT3 with all settings at high, I had to back off on texture detail |
| 00:26.58 | Mudkipz | im building a new rig and buying the parts in about a month ~.~ |
| 00:27.04 | chiper | but I figure that's because it's only 256MB |
| 00:27.15 | chiper | *so far |
| 00:27.39 | Mudkipz | not sure about WoW anymore but 8800gt 512mb will play everything I throw at it maxed out |
| 00:27.45 | Mudkipz | except crysis |
| 00:27.54 | Mudkipz | since it's basically the new doom 3 of videocards |
| 00:27.56 | chiper | hehe, yeah, except crysis |
| 00:27.56 | SunTsu | chiper: I couldn't tell any difference between normal and windowes mode. |
| 00:28.54 | Mudkipz | there really isn't any diff between normal and windowed |
| 00:29.11 | Mudkipz | windowed is just so much better for tabbing |
| 00:29.31 | SunTsu | Mudkipz: Right. Doesn't make any difference, performancewise |
| 00:29.37 | chiper | last time I tried it I noticed the gamma control sucked, but that was on a different card |
| 00:30.27 | Mudkipz | ah yeah |
| 00:30.33 | Mudkipz | you won't be able to play with gamma in windowed |
| 00:30.38 | SunTsu | chiper: Yes, that's a bit sucky, but the nvidia software has a setting for that |
| 00:32.43 | sb | well |
| 00:32.52 | sb | difference between windows and fullscreen is ~10-15 fps :/ |
| 00:32.52 | sb | for me |
| 00:33.33 | kergoth | around that here too, but its worth it to run windowed |
| 00:33.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:33.53 | SunTsu | I didn't notice a differende |
| 00:33.56 | SunTsu | difference |
| 00:34.10 | Pkekyo| | g'nite all |
| 00:35.14 | SunTsu | night Pkekyo| |
| 00:36.29 | Shirik | meh, I play at about 15 fps and I don't have a problem with it |
| 00:36.31 | Shirik | just get used to it |
| 00:36.47 | Shirik | Then when you go onto another computer and it's 60fps and you're like "wow, it can look like this? o.o" |
| 00:36.57 | SunTsu | chiper should have 30-90fps anyway |
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| 00:37.17 | chiper | yeah, in wow I'm above 60FPS, have vsync on |
| 00:38.14 | SunTsu | chiper: Just like me. So you really shouldn't have problems running WoW in windowed mode |
| 00:42.56 | networkerror | I have a question about creating an image in PS and using it in eePanels, I have googled for a bit now and still am having issues with the transparency of the background layer...its showing white in game. |
| 00:43.40 | Ellipsis | does your .tga file have an alpha channel? |
| 00:43.48 | networkerror | when creating alpha channel should it be on a particular layer or should the layers be flattened first |
| 00:45.48 | networkerror | I have three layers, two being the actual art and one the background. I tried setting the alpha channel to each one and all of them and still shows up as a white bg. I tried setting the bg layer as transparent and re-doing the aplha channel and still the same result |
| 00:46.02 | networkerror | I'm sure its something simple I am missing. |
| 00:47.58 | thul | http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs24/i/2008/027/2/4/Summer_moved_on__by_cainadamsson.jpg |
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| 01:02.19 | Zhinjio | I don't know how eepanels does this, but its possible the "blend mode" is set incorrectly in eepanels as well |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59558 10GatherHud/ (GatherHud.lua GatherHud.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-9 | GatherHud: - Commented out TOC lines that load libraries, since we depend on GatherMate |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-9 | - Changed some default setting values and min/max ranges, renamed some variables |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-9 | - Get rid of debug lines |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-9 | - Change HuD to use degrees for angel of view setting instead of calling it Y-Compression |
| 01:02.28 | CIA-9 | - Fixed 0 width/height possibilities |
| 01:02.32 | CIA-9 | - Hide update frame in :OnDisable() |
| 01:02.38 | Zhinjio | discordart has an option to ignore alpha as well. |
| 01:03.16 | Zhinjio | <-- doesn't use eepanels |
| 01:03.38 | Zhinjio | networkerror: what size is your image? |
| 01:03.43 | Zhinjio | (pixels) |
| 01:04.47 | Antiarc | http://www.break.com/index/amazing-young-organ-player-rocks-out.html |
| 01:04.53 | networkerror | tried 512x512 and 256x512 |
| 01:05.44 | networkerror | I am going to try and create an image from step one and see if maybe I made a mistake some where |
| 01:05.58 | Zhinjio | networkerror: something about the way you're doing your mask and saving that to your alpha channel is not correct. |
| 01:06.38 | Zhinjio | I always make my image with transparency enabled... then create mask from opacity ... save mask to alpha channel... save image |
| 01:06.45 | Zhinjio | not sure how your'e doing it |
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| 01:07.54 | Wobin | Antiarc: rofl |
| 01:07.56 | Wobin | that's brilliant |
| 01:08.02 | Wobin | STAR POWER |
| 01:08.06 | Antiarc | I'm pretty damned impressed. |
| 01:08.20 | Wobin | who knew a church organ could do that |
| 01:08.31 | Wobin | (I doubt it actually is though =P) |
| 01:08.45 | Antiarc | It's a special kind of sequencer/organ |
| 01:08.56 | Antiarc | But the fact that she's managing to play four voices at once is...amazing |
| 01:09.03 | Antiarc | Especially considering the tempo changes that song has |
| 01:09.24 | thul | carry on my wayward son rocks |
| 01:09.29 | thul | that is what I can say |
| 01:10.43 | RaydenUni | i should have my sister learn how to play that |
| 01:10.51 | RaydenUni | although i guess my sister does piano not keyboard |
| 01:10.56 | Antiarc | Kansas is one of my favorite bands ever |
| 01:10.58 | RaydenUni | she wouldn't know how to do the multiple voices |
| 01:11.06 | thul | kansas rocks |
| 01:11.15 | thul | erhm? |
| 01:11.25 | thul | pianists do multiple voices, if not on two keyboards (well, that too, but still) |
| 01:11.44 | Wobin | Antiarc: agreed |
| 01:11.49 | thul | btw, that isn't too technically difficult so far (at 2:00 now though.. :-P ) |
| 01:11.57 | thul | Antiarc: have your heard proto-kaw? |
| 01:11.58 | Wobin | Dust on the wind is one of the first songs I ever tried to play =P |
| 01:12.04 | Antiarc | thul: Nope |
| 01:12.10 | thul | ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai |
| 01:12.11 | thul | ALERT! |
| 01:12.18 | Antiarc | Wobin: Dust in the wind is one of the first songs everyone tries to play :P |
| 01:12.21 | thul | then you must Antiarc |
| 01:13.33 | thul | Proto-Kaw is an American progressive rock band. Featuring Kansas guitarist Kerry Livgren, the group is a reformation of a band formed in the early seventies which served as the direct precursor to Kansas. |
| 01:13.47 | Antiarc | Oooh. |
| 01:13.51 | Antiarc | *goes to check it out |
| 01:13.56 | thul | (they are coming with a new album this spring) |
| 01:13.59 | thul | it is so cool |
| 01:14.21 | thul | check out the song hegemonium |
| 01:14.26 | thul | (i can send if needed) |
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| 01:15.23 | thul | if you like flutes, hammond organs and cool lyrics |
| 01:15.24 | thul | go the 70s:D |
| 01:16.06 | Wobin | man |
| 01:16.16 | Wobin | who -doesn't- like flutes hammond organs and cool lyrics =P |
| 01:16.19 | thul | :-D |
| 01:16.24 | Wobin | I mean, look at Men At Work =) |
| 01:16.24 | thul | most kids these days :-( |
| 01:16.29 | RaydenUni | girl looks like she is 12 |
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| 01:17.04 | thul | RaydenUni: you have seen the drum-video? kenny something jr? |
| 01:17.21 | thul | tony royster jr |
| 01:17.22 | thul | that is |
| 01:17.25 | RaydenUni | the really small kid? |
| 01:17.26 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 01:17.32 | thul | that is so sick |
| 01:17.45 | RaydenUni | it's kind of stupid that kansas video makes a reference to guitar hero |
| 01:18.01 | thul | :-( |
| 01:18.08 | thul | sax-solo ftw |
| 01:18.25 | vithos | ahahah we just killed our world server |
| 01:18.32 | vithos | trying to kill thrall |
| 01:18.38 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 01:18.45 | vithos | had like 30 seconds of lag for 10 minutes |
| 01:18.50 | vithos | and then our world server went down |
| 01:19.10 | vithos | moonrunner US |
| 01:20.15 | Killmore2 | samething for us |
| 01:20.16 | Killmore2 | ysera US |
| 01:20.28 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 01:20.32 | RaydenUni | maybe that's why i'm lagging |
| 01:20.35 | RaydenUni | server issues |
| 01:20.37 | RaydenUni | still on though |
| 01:22.24 | thul | Antiarc: when you've heard hegemonium, let me know what you think :-D |
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| 01:22.36 | Antiarc | Heh, I don't have time to track it down right now :( |
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| 01:23.08 | thul | i can sseeeeeeeend, but ok, tell me later :-) |
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| 01:33.08 | ben___ | How do the yellow dots on the minimap work? Are they actual frames that I could detect as an addon or do they get rendered on the map by the engine? |
| 01:42.40 | chiper | SunTsu: new drivers let me do DualView, so I now have proper spanning |
| 01:43.03 | chiper | now I just gotta figure out how to tell it which side the second screen is on :P |
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| 01:45.32 | chiper | ah, there we go |
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| 01:54.12 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r59559 10SmartQueue/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 01:54.13 | CIA-9 | SmartQueue: |
| 01:54.13 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update |
| 01:56.22 | Gnarfoz | ben___: no idea, but seeing that Gatherer somehow uses that information in its HUD, it is probably accessible somehow. |
| 01:57.07 | kergoth | gatherer uses the recorded locations, not the blips, no? |
| 01:58.36 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 01:58.41 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 01:58.45 | Xinhuan | <ben___> How do the yellow dots on the minimap work? Are they actual frames that I could detect as an addon or do they get rendered on the map by the engine? |
| 01:58.55 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4164632214&sid=1 |
| 01:59.08 | Xinhuan | i just answered that question ni that post |
| 01:59.14 | Xinhuan | (by coincidence?) |
| 02:01.24 | Xinhuan | so to answer your question, the answer is, no, you can't detect them at all, in any manner (except by tooltip) |
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| 02:02.09 | Xinhuan | gatherer's hud only uses known databases |
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| 02:08.41 | ben___ | Man, I wanted to do the same thing as that guy. |
| 02:09.06 | ben___ | then again the "not very good" method does not sound all that bad to me |
| 02:13.32 | Silowyi | so anyone else's shard have a two hour running instance server outage? |
| 02:15.50 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59560 10BlessingBar/ (. BlessingBar.lua BlessingBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 02:15.50 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 02:15.50 | CIA-9 | - Removed the DB dependancy since it was not needed, changed the way bags are searched and should now take much less CPU cycles, cleaned up code a bit. |
| 02:17.09 | Arrowmaster | wtb fight in sunwell thats a mix of thaddius and heigan (but with fire instead of poison), depending on the debuff you have you either have to run away from the fire or jump in it, and dance around like heigan |
| 02:17.32 | Gnarfoz | insanity |
| 02:17.40 | Arrowmaster | it would be fun |
| 02:17.54 | Gnarfoz | also, anyone heard of Grid resetting the range for the OOR indicator back to 28y for priests each login? |
| 02:18.43 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59561 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: font selection for clock via shared media |
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| 02:20.06 | cchome | how do i get pitbull PLAYER frame to show what group# im in when in raid |
| 02:20.46 | Arrowmaster | 09:20:38 [Archimonde] Hand of Death [You] 149998 |
| 02:20.48 | Arrowmaster | hate that |
| 02:20.57 | NightHawkTheSane | wimp. l2stamina. :P |
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| 02:21.26 | Gnarfoz | cchome: switch one of the tags on the frame to custom text mode and add [RaidGroup] or whatever :) |
| 02:21.46 | cchome | thx |
| 02:26.27 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59562 10CurseBar/ (. CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 02:26.27 | CIA-9 | CurseBar: |
| 02:26.27 | CIA-9 | - Removed the DB dependancy since it was not needed, also added in CTRL-drag for easy positioning on bars, cleaned up code a bit. |
| 02:29.19 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59563 10SealBar/ (. SealBar.lua SealBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 02:29.19 | CIA-9 | SealBar: |
| 02:29.19 | CIA-9 | - Removed the DB dependancy since it was not needed, also added in CTRL-drag for easy positioning on bars, cleaned up code a bit. |
| 02:29.56 | RaydenUni | man the lag sucks tonight |
| 02:30.15 | ulic | yes it does |
| 02:32.01 | RaydenUni | hah |
| 02:32.06 | RaydenUni | they are finally doing a server shutdown |
| 02:32.21 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59564 10SummoningBar/ (. SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 02:32.21 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 02:32.21 | CIA-9 | - Removed the DB dependancy since it was not needed, Cleaned up the way bags are searched, should take far less CPU cycles, added in CTRL-drag for easy positioning on bars, cleaned up code a bit. |
| 02:32.35 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59565 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: Option replication for future blocks, doesn't actually set anything yet. |
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| 02:38.54 | RaydenUni | http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=jef2i5uz45 |
| 02:38.55 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 02:39.04 | RaydenUni | mythbuster "do girls fart?" |
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| 02:40.08 | ulic | hehe |
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| 02:43.38 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59566 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: Add disabled tags |
| 02:45.33 | Killmore2 | too many ace3 since 1 week.. and I dont know where to download it :P( |
| 02:46.33 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM-LeRLiqA0 |
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| 02:48.32 | Jagobah | hmmm |
| 02:48.51 | Jagobah | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.msg134540#msg134540 <--- anyone try making this mod to Threat-1.0 ? |
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| 02:52.46 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59567 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: more config fixing |
| 02:53.03 | Wobin | ... EvilJohn |
| 02:53.13 | Wobin | Any relation to JohnEvil? |
| 02:53.31 | genetik | who's JohnEvil? |
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| 02:56.19 | Wobin | Hey EvilJohn. Do you have a toon named JohnEvil? =) |
| 02:56.31 | EvilJohn | I dno not |
| 02:58.24 | genetik | blah.. server needs to come back up |
| 02:58.58 | Wobin | s |
| 02:59.01 | Wobin | 'true |
| 02:59.37 | genetik | we were right in the middle of our lvl1 gnome race to stv |
| 03:00.02 | genetik | since our instance servers were down |
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| 03:06.40 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59568 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: enable/disable blocks |
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| 03:10.24 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59569 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: bugfix |
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| 03:24.50 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59570 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: prettier GUI, sort of |
| 03:29.37 | Funkeh` | http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1825/wowscrnshot012808032751mg3.jpg How the hell do I get all 4 on one line without needing to expland the GUI? |
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| 03:29.44 | Funkeh` | gah, wrong window |
| 03:34.13 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59572 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: minor tweaks |
| 03:34.35 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 03:35.44 | Aens|Superiority | ugh, why does armory crash both ie and opera |
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| 04:05.43 | miro | Hi!!! nice to mean you!! Im a herbalist and ive been searching for an addon forever but i cant find it. What i want this addon to do is to somewhow alert me when Herbs apear on the map.. Like a diffrent sound or diffrent color flash on the screen or like an icon ove r athoughbubble of the herb so i never miss a good herb pls i would LOVE this addon but i cant find it.. maybe u guys know one... |
| 04:05.44 | miro | ...like this or maybe u can make one cuz ur all pro ans shet. which would be sooooo coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 04:06.19 | Estil | what the |
| 04:06.24 | Arrowmaster | there was a proof of concept addon a long time ago that did that but it wasnt very good |
| 04:06.56 | Beutju | and addon cannot do sth like that because there is no api for that |
| 04:07.03 | Arrowmaster | its doable |
| 04:07.15 | Beutju | but not with wow api |
| 04:07.17 | Arrowmaster | but extremely hacky |
| 04:07.28 | Beutju | with autoit surely |
| 04:08.02 | Arrowmaster | you move the minimap to the cursor and resize it to be as small as possible then read the gametooltip |
| 04:08.22 | miro | ive made it small az possible |
| 04:08.22 | vithos | that is pretty hax. |
| 04:08.27 | miro | but the othe thing i dont know |
| 04:08.41 | Arrowmaster | because if the extremely small size every tracking node will be in the same tooltip |
| 04:09.03 | miro | huh? u mean the + or |
| 04:09.05 | miro | - |
| 04:09.07 | miro | sign? |
| 04:09.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:09.30 | Arrowmaster | i mean making the minimap actually like 1 px by 1px in size |
| 04:09.54 | Arrowmaster | like i said it was a proof of concept addon |
| 04:10.06 | Beutju | hm thats a nice idea |
| 04:10.10 | Arrowmaster | it didnt work very well or effecently but it did it |
| 04:10.22 | miro | o.o i have no diea what ur talking about.. but ive got ideas.. dont herbs like spawn on the same place? so cant some1 make like a mod that tells u where to go for the next clostst herb.. |
| 04:10.39 | Arrowmaster | miro: Routes |
| 04:11.16 | miro | uuugh |
| 04:11.17 | miro | whah? |
| 04:11.25 | miro | pls can some1 pls like help me |
| 04:11.26 | Arrowmaster | its a mod |
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| 04:11.33 | miro | and not discuss thing si dont understand |
| 04:11.44 | Beutju | just have herbalism detection on? |
| 04:12.05 | miro | but i dont have the herbalism detect detection on cuz i amit a machinE! |
| 04:13.38 | miro | No results |
| 04:13.39 | miro | I tried and tried...but I just couldn't find anything. |
| 04:13.47 | miro | i cant find this routes add on |
| 04:13.51 | Diao | ... |
| 04:14.09 | miro | ...? |
| 04:14.12 | Arrowmaster | cartographer_routes then |
| 04:15.03 | miro | uuuh does that mean im going to have to use cartographer? cuz i have metamap and i use that and i have like a toooon of waypoints telling me where the quests sand there things are and it would suk to loze that |
| 04:15.19 | miro | or just cartographer_routes? |
| 04:15.39 | Beutju | you for carto routes you need carto |
| 04:15.45 | Wobin | Routes is in branches |
| 04:15.59 | Wobin | you can download it from the forum topic |
| 04:16.05 | miro | so i have to uninstall metamap oh well |
| 04:16.11 | miro | thx for the help! |
| 04:16.16 | miro | ill tell u guys how it goes |
| 04:16.19 | Arrowmaster | Routes doesnt require cartographer |
| 04:16.24 | miro | oh? |
| 04:16.30 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer_Routes does require Cartographer |
| 04:16.38 | miro | wee |
| 04:17.43 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10992.0 |
| 04:19.36 | Primer | http://sh.nu/FlightHUD <-- version 0.2, pitch! |
| 04:20.24 | Primer | it's fake though |
| 04:20.30 | Primer | as it's only the camera pitch |
| 04:20.35 | miro | arrow i went to ur site |
| 04:20.41 | miro | but i cant find the download button |
| 04:20.46 | miro | =/ sorry |
| 04:20.46 | Arrowmaster | thats not my site |
| 04:20.52 | Primer | I'd update the screenshot if my damn server with my only level 70 characters wasn't down |
| 04:20.54 | miro | um the one u gave me then |
| 04:21.04 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10992.0;attach=3930 |
| 04:21.31 | miro | oh i have to regester |
| 04:21.35 | miro | well thx! |
| 04:21.39 | miro | =) |
| 04:22.09 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10990.0;attach=3937 |
| 04:22.12 | Primer | remove the dlattach part |
| 04:22.15 | Primer | and it'll show |
| 04:22.15 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10990.0;attach=3933 |
| 04:22.36 | Arrowmaster | those look like the latest gathermate zips |
| 04:22.43 | Arrowmaster | im linking to the attachments on purpose |
| 04:22.53 | Arrowmaster | since he couldnt find the link in the post |
| 04:23.54 | Primer | well, your URLS asked me to register too |
| 04:24.21 | Arrowmaster | were you logged into the forums? |
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| 04:26.33 | Primer | I have no login, and apparently he didn't either |
| 04:27.02 | Arrowmaster | because you must have an account to download attachments from the forums |
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| 04:34.23 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 05:06.57 | ckknight | how would two people such as Ellipsis and myself relieve boredom? |
| 05:07.13 | Xinhuan | you read posts like http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11066.msg174736 |
| 05:07.18 | raylu | this might be a bad first thing to say in a channel, but "sex" is the usual answer |
| 05:07.24 | Xinhuan | and laugh yourself to death on why there's such stupid people in this planet |
| 05:07.37 | ckknight | raylu: nah, tired |
| 05:08.15 | Wobin | well only one of you needs to be energetic |
| 05:08.36 | Wobin | the other can lay back and think of england |
| 05:09.37 | raylu | well, if you want to pursue Xinhuan's answer, try worsethanfailure.com |
| 05:12.33 | Ellipsis | already read it daily |
| 05:12.40 | Ellipsis | and there's nothing new since it's a weekend |
| 05:12.54 | raylu | xkcd.com |
| 05:12.57 | raylu | bash.org |
| 05:13.02 | Ellipsis | also read those daily |
| 05:13.09 | Ellipsis | and again, nothing new in a couple days |
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| 05:19.33 | ckknight | we've reached the end of the internet |
| 05:20.13 | raylu | write a plugin that allows you to inspect other people running the plugin from anywhere |
| 05:20.27 | Arrowmaster | he already did that |
| 05:20.29 | raylu | as well as grab other data like their quest log |
| 05:20.38 | raylu | eh? i know there's one that allows you to re-inspect people you've seen |
| 05:20.42 | Arrowmaster | somebody else already did that |
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| 05:20.53 | raylu | o.0? what's it called? |
| 05:24.29 | chiper | can macro's do /cast on items? trying to make a macro to put flametongue on my mainhand |
| 05:24.46 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:24.50 | robotusch | I liked the ending of that last post |
| 05:24.52 | robotusch | " i hope i " |
| 05:25.02 | Xinhuan | well, not directly |
| 05:25.02 | chiper | damn |
| 05:25.06 | robotusch | .. I guess that means we'll see a sequel some day |
| 05:25.08 | Xinhuan | you can /cast (spell) |
| 05:25.17 | Xinhuan | then do a "pickupitem" on your paper doll |
| 05:25.20 | Xinhuan | and it should work |
| 05:27.52 | chiper | hey yeah, that worked. what's the command to drop it then after it's pickedup? |
| 05:28.06 | Xinhuan | perform the same command |
| 05:28.09 | Xinhuan | that picked it up? |
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| 05:32.19 | chiper | yup, that did it |
| 05:32.25 | chiper | thanks xin |
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| 05:58.25 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59574 10BlessingBar/ (BlessingBar.lua BlessingBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 05:58.25 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 05:58.25 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the not casting bug, also fixed an issue where it would recrate the buttons (creating stacks of them) when you zone. |
| 05:59.07 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59575 10CurseBar/ (CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 05:59.07 | CIA-9 | CurseBar: |
| 05:59.07 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the not casting bug, also fixed an issue where it would recrate the buttons (creating stacks of them) when you zone. |
| 05:59.52 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59576 10SealBar/ (SealBar.lua SealBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 05:59.52 | CIA-9 | SealBar: |
| 05:59.52 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the not casting bug, also fixed an issue where it would recrate the buttons (creating stacks of them) when you zone. |
| 06:01.42 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59577 10SummoningBar/ (SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 06:01.42 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 06:01.42 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the not casting bug, also fixed an issue where it would recrate the buttons (creating stacks of them) when you zone. |
| 06:18.38 | Antiarc | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bug.png |
| 06:18.39 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 06:19.39 | raylu | lol |
| 06:19.41 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 06:22.25 | bigzero | hey, is there a command to reload the graphics? |
| 06:22.47 | Lukian | bigzero, pardon? |
| 06:22.57 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.11 | raylu | there's a way to reload the ui, if that's what you mean |
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| 06:24.20 | Xinhuan | /console gxrestart |
| 06:24.23 | Xinhuan | is what you are looking for |
| 06:24.39 | bigzero | thanks xinhua |
| 06:24.41 | bigzero | n |
| 06:25.26 | bigzero | hmm, didn't work as i expected it to |
| 06:26.23 | bigzero | you know how doors and some other graphics don't appear right away when wow is loaded or you zone? I'm able to blink through the DM doors right after zoning out |
| 06:26.37 | bigzero | so was wondering if that could somehow be exploited n other places |
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| 06:27.57 | Xinhuan | unlikely |
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| 06:48.55 | Diao | man |
| 06:49.02 | Diao | that was a painful 3v3 game against double rogue druid :( |
| 06:49.13 | Diao | between cyclones and blinds i was basically doing nothing the entire match |
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| 07:14.02 | Orionshock | Diao: ... |
| 07:14.24 | Orionshock | that should have only kept you cc'ed for 15? seconds... |
| 07:15.32 | Xinhuan | cyclone = 6+3+1.5 seconds |
| 07:15.38 | Xinhuan | Blind = 9+4.5 seconds |
| 07:15.43 | Xinhuan | after which 15 seconds is over |
| 07:15.53 | Xinhuan | then cyclone goes back to full 6 sec duration |
| 07:16.11 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: blind and cyclone have the same DR |
| 07:16.26 | Xinhuan | they don't. one is on a banish timer, the other is on a disorient timer |
| 07:16.49 | Orionshock | .. it was in patch notes |
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| 07:19.33 | Diao | well |
| 07:19.35 | Diao | it was more like |
| 07:20.16 | Diao | blind, root until cyclone/blind DR are up, cyclone x3, root, feral charge, bash, blind, repeat |
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| 07:21.51 | Xinhuan | reroll rogue :) |
| 07:22.51 | Diao | lol |
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| 07:23.43 | Pkekyo|wrk | g'morning all |
| 07:26.19 | Xinhuan | hi |
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| 07:42.05 | neenee | Good morning :) |
| 07:43.20 | Sais | Good morrow ;) |
| 07:51.36 | ramoz | Xinhuan: dont you ever sleep? |
| 07:52.12 | Xinhuan | my current sleeping habits involve sleeping 3 hours, staying awake 9 hours, then repeat |
| 07:52.17 | Xinhuan | so its 6 hours of sleep daily |
| 07:52.40 | Xinhuan | although in practice, its more like |
| 07:52.54 | Xinhuan | 3sleep-10awake-3sleep-4awake-3sleep-16awake |
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| 07:53.19 | Pkekyo|wrk | rofl |
| 07:53.22 | Pkekyo|wrk | how do you do it? |
| 07:53.48 | Killmore2 | Xinhuan haha |
| 07:53.54 | Killmore2 | its working ? :P |
| 07:54.03 | Sais | Hmm. Some of us have office jobs... although I have been known to get back from work and collapse in bed until about 10pm, then not be able to get up the following morning because I couldn't go to sleep again. |
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| 07:54.17 | Xinhuan | well for a start, i don't have a job |
| 07:54.20 | Sais | talking of office jobs...time to go see if it's still there. |
| 07:54.26 | Xinhuan | and i skip uni often enouh |
| 07:54.27 | Xinhuan | enough |
| 07:54.37 | Xinhuan | for it to work |
| 07:55.26 | Sais | I tired playing with sleep times when I was made redundant. I seemed to get away with 4 hours sleep some days, and then it would catch up with me... |
| 07:56.43 | Sais | Anyway. Have fun not being at work :D |
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| 08:05.36 | Tekkub | anyone around that speaks russian? |
| 08:05.59 | bigzero | a little |
| 08:06.18 | bigzero | like not enough to do a localization |
| 08:06.31 | Tekkub | I have a Draenei named Mishutka... want to roll another with a similar name |
| 08:07.21 | bigzero | shutka as in a joke? |
| 08:07.38 | Tekkub | no as in something like little bear |
| 08:07.49 | bigzero | oh, so like misha |
| 08:08.30 | Tekkub | something bearish, but not "Medved" cause that makes me think of a shitty car dealership here in Denver |
| 08:08.53 | bigzero | lol |
| 08:09.17 | bigzero | male? |
| 08:09.22 | Tekkub | da |
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| 08:09.39 | bigzero | xarasho, pasmotrim |
| 08:10.00 | Tekkub | meanings? |
| 08:10.39 | bigzero | ok, let's see |
| 08:10.49 | bigzero | that wasn't a name, lol |
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| 08:13.22 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
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| 08:13.46 | bigzero | there was this russian story about 3 bears... can't remember their names |
| 08:14.52 | Xinhuan | Papa bear, mama bear and kiddie bear |
| 08:15.09 | bigzero | lol |
| 08:15.15 | Xinhuan | papa bear enters the room and says WHO ATE MY PORRIDGE? |
| 08:15.22 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:15.42 | Xinhuan | i hear this story has been translated to 179 languages |
| 08:15.48 | Xinhuan | (i totally made that number up) |
| 08:16.29 | bigzero | i was thinking about something else, but yeah I've seen that one in russian too |
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| 08:17.24 | bigzero | you know, i really can't think of another word for bear in russian |
| 08:17.57 | Tekkub | damnit |
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| 08:18.54 | bigzero | misha's kinda overused, but it's totally a bear name |
| 08:19.50 | Tekkub | well some derivitive of that is fine by me |
| 08:20.01 | Tekkub | perverse connotations even better |
| 08:21.39 | Xinhuan | Mishu :) |
| 08:22.09 | bigzero | "In Russian Misha is a diminutive for Mikhail. Misha, Mishka" |
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| 08:30.13 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r59578 10Talented_Data/ (3 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
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| 08:32.02 | raylu | woah... |
| 08:32.09 | raylu | talented_data is a lot of work to get working.... |
| 08:34.04 | Lukian | hmm? |
| 08:34.20 | raylu | i saw that it got commited so i wanted to see what it was....and the instructions are _long_ |
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| 08:34.32 | Lukian | uh, install talented |
| 08:34.34 | Lukian | done. |
| 08:34.38 | raylu | no |
| 08:34.48 | raylu | you have to generate the data files |
| 08:35.20 | durcyn | no you don't |
| 08:35.26 | Lukian | _data is the data files, it generates them - or has it's own |
| 08:35.34 | raylu | o.0..i see |
| 08:35.42 | Lukian | talented is the (main) addon |
| 08:35.55 | Lukian | other addons use the data provided by _data |
| 08:36.29 | lapalapa | guys a simple newb question - my simple addon prints some info in a frame. Font is set in XML to inherit GameFontNormal. the question is - how to set the font height to differ from games default? |
| 08:37.19 | lapalapa | doesnt matter from lua or xml, i tried FontHeight in xml but it doesnt override games default |
| 08:37.19 | Xinhuan | local a, b, c = fontstring:GetFont() |
| 08:37.30 | Xinhuan | fontstring:SetFont(a, 10, c) |
| 08:37.51 | lapalapa | 10 is for font size? |
| 08:38.50 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow 07Locales * r59579 10GatherMate/GatherMate-frFR.lua: GatherMate: frFR Update |
| 08:39.56 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow 07Ace3 * r59580 10Routes/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: Routes: frFR Update |
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| 08:40.44 | lapalapa | Xinhuan man thanks a lot it worked :) |
| 08:41.30 | Tekkub | hey bigzero, what about just cub? |
| 08:41.31 | bigzero | ugh.... macros don't survive server transfers |
| 08:41.48 | Tekkub | just move WTF files around |
| 08:41.58 | Xinhuan | they do, if you copy macro-cache.txt from your WTF subfolders over |
| 08:42.02 | lapalapa | geez thanks for warning |
| 08:42.24 | Xinhuan | note there's 2 different macro-cache.txt |
| 08:42.28 | bigzero | yeah, that's what i'm doing |
| 08:42.38 | Xinhuan | one is at an account level (shared macros) and one is at a character level |
| 08:42.42 | bigzero | coying all the stuff from the character's wtf |
| 08:42.52 | bigzero | hopefully nothing has server name in it |
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| 08:43.11 | bigzero | well, shared macros work for all servers so idc |
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| 08:49.25 | bigzero | awesome. Stormscale is full of cheap pristine black diamonds :-) |
| 08:49.29 | Tekkub | bah why's it so hard to get me some russian bear love |
| 08:49.46 | bigzero | 'casue you hate car dealers |
| 08:50.02 | Tekkub | yes they ruined it |
| 08:50.11 | Tekkub | fine give me some shit with medved |
| 08:50.43 | Tekkub | horny bear, furry bear, bear ass, smoked bear meat |
| 08:51.07 | Industrial | that would be funny |
| 08:51.14 | Industrial | [Bear Ass] |
| 08:51.24 | Tekkub | [Large Bear Bone] ^^ |
| 08:51.27 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:51.28 | Tekkub | equippable too |
| 08:51.57 | Industrial | I put on my robe, wizards hat and large bear bone? |
| 08:56.55 | bigzero | podli medved - mean bear |
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| 08:57.48 | Tekkub | hrm... |
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| 09:00.02 | bigzero | ploxoi medved - bad bear? |
| 09:00.15 | Tekkub | perverted bear? |
| 09:00.47 | Recluse | Xinhuan: thank you so much for implementing --( )-- !! |
| 09:00.56 | bigzero | russian words are sooo long |
| 09:01.06 | bigzero | it sucks putting more than one in a aname |
| 09:01.07 | Tekkub | hung bear? |
| 09:01.09 | bigzero | name* |
| 09:01.25 | Tekkub | russian bear penis SO BIG! |
| 09:01.40 | Industrial | #furry |
| 09:01.43 | Industrial | pls. |
| 09:02.05 | bigzero | what do you mean hung? |
| 09:02.22 | Tekkub | nothing just making fun of you saying "so long" |
| 09:02.31 | Industrial | lmoa |
| 09:02.35 | Industrial | nade |
| 09:02.55 | Tekkub | lemonade? |
| 09:02.59 | bigzero | pijanai medved - drunk bear |
| 09:04.31 | bigzero | all their swear words are short though :-) |
| 09:04.39 | Tekkub | need more hard russian 'k's |
| 09:04.45 | Tekkub | fucked bear? |
| 09:04.52 | neenee | Why do you want a Russian name? |
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| 09:05.05 | Tekkub | cause draenei are russian? |
| 09:05.13 | neenee | Their accent you mean? |
| 09:05.15 | bigzero | they are? |
| 09:05.26 | Recluse | draenei are romanian i heard |
| 09:05.39 | Tekkub | sure sound russian to me... |
| 09:05.46 | Cheads | yeah |
| 09:05.49 | bigzero | well, the two sound alike |
| 09:05.57 | neenee | But their dance is not Russian at all. |
| 09:06.02 | Tekkub | well then, russians are sexier |
| 09:06.19 | neenee | I agree the James Bond versions are |
| 09:06.21 | Tekkub | and is the dorf dance scottish much? |
| 09:06.52 | neenee | No, it's Russian |
| 09:07.00 | neenee | So get a Dwarf :) |
| 09:07.10 | Tekkub | I got tons of dorfs |
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| 09:07.30 | Tekkub | I like Draenishes more, appeal to my need for a tail |
| 09:07.43 | neenee | 'a tail' or 'tail' |
| 09:07.51 | Industrial | draenei girls are hot. |
| 09:07.58 | Tekkub | a tail |
| 09:09.37 | neenee | :) |
| 09:09.48 | Recluse | possible to issue two different slash commands via one macro using [button:#] modifiers? i can't seem to figure it out. might be lack of coffee though. non-functional example: /wave [button:1]; /thank [button:2] |
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| 09:12.29 | Industrial | ITS A `-FISKER_Q\ |
| 09:12.37 | Industrial | `-FISKER_Q\: you still owe me a loop |
| 09:16.58 | Tekkub | maybe I'll just name him Blueberries |
| 09:17.05 | Tekkub | Blueballs |
| 09:17.57 | Industrial | Tekkub: this really is too offtopic |
| 09:18.04 | Industrial | and not that nice to read for me too : |
| 09:18.06 | Industrial | : |
| 09:18.10 | Industrial | :||| |
| 09:18.14 | Tekkub | asking for help with a name, fuck you buddy :P |
| 09:18.30 | Industrial | no thanks *badoom tisch* |
| 09:18.42 | Tekkub | don't see you coming up with agod one so I'll shut up |
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| 09:20.38 | neenee | LankySmurf |
| 09:21.24 | neenee | Though I'd never use that myself |
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| 09:22.19 | Tekkub | Bloob... Bloobies |
| 09:23.18 | neenee | egh |
| 09:26.18 | Tekkub | BlueBear? |
| 09:26.52 | neenee | Blogi, Blue Yogi |
| 09:26.55 | neenee | :P |
| 09:27.07 | Tekkub | Blubbear |
| 09:27.31 | neenee | Bluebottom |
| 09:28.14 | Tekkub | BLubblebutt |
| 09:28.30 | thul | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1157/ |
| 09:29.05 | neenee | egh |
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| 09:34.20 | thul | http://dingz.no/php/art.php?id=505708 |
| 09:36.52 | Xinhuan | so |
| 09:37.01 | Xinhuan | half my guild got Mojos |
| 09:37.08 | Xinhuan | it isn't hotfixed on my server yet, if ever |
| 09:37.10 | Tekkub | fuck them |
| 09:37.15 | Tekkub | and you |
| 09:37.25 | Killmore2 | omg |
| 09:38.03 | Pkekyo|wrk | Xinhuan: howto? |
| 09:38.16 | Xinhuan | you /kiss the npc near the flightmaster |
| 09:38.18 | Xinhuan | his name is |
| 09:38.25 | Xinhuan | Prigmon |
| 09:38.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: it was supposedly hotfixed on my server |
| 09:38.32 | Tekkub | no you have to /blow him :) |
| 09:38.34 | Shirik|Ecole | what's a mojo? |
| 09:38.45 | Pkekyo|wrk | shirik a toad or something |
| 09:38.46 | Xinhuan | its a non-combat pet |
| 09:38.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I want one!! :( |
| 09:38.58 | Xinhuan | a toad specifically, which you can /kiss, to turn into a frog |
| 09:39.00 | Pkekyo|wrk | join zeh club |
| 09:39.07 | Shirik|Ecole | So how does such a bug get into the game |
| 09:39.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to assume someone's getting fired :P |
| 09:39.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i really dont think it was a bug |
| 09:39.17 | Shirik|Ecole | or reprimanded |
| 09:39.41 | Xinhuan | i wonder if half my guild will get 3-hour banned like the T6 free resto shaman one lolz |
| 09:39.51 | raylu | er...what's a mojo? |
| 09:39.51 | Shirik|Ecole | If it's being hotfixed then obviously it wasn't desired by Blizzard as a whole, and if they have any kind of VCS out there...... someone's getting very much yelled at |
| 09:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | its all to well crafted to actually be a bug, probably an easter egg. but yeah, the question is whether it was approved by blizz higher ups, or some rogue dev :p |
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| 09:39.56 | raylu | searching gave me a lot of items |
| 09:40.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to go with your last option NightHawkTheSane |
| 09:40.04 | Shirik|Ecole | and surely they have something like "svn blame" |
| 09:40.15 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, im sure they do |
| 09:40.31 | Shirik|Ecole | And the name of that command is completely apt for this situation :) |
| 09:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | But i dont think it being hotfixed necessarily implies blizz management didn't approve of it |
| 09:40.34 | raylu | are we talking about the blue frog small pet? |
| 09:40.51 | NightHawkTheSane | It's entirely possible they put it in, and then took it out when they saw it became "well known" |
| 09:41.12 | nevcairiel | how could they expect something like that to not be well known? |
| 09:41.13 | Shirik|Ecole | question is how the hell did people find out |
| 09:41.19 | Shirik|Ecole | who goes around kissing people |
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| 09:41.37 | raylu | you'd be surprised... |
| 09:41.43 | raylu | i was licked the other day out of the blue |
| 09:41.51 | Shirik|Ecole | do you play a female? |
| 09:41.55 | raylu | hm... |
| 09:41.59 | raylu | that may have something to do with it |
| 09:42.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I get it all the time :P But I'm a BE female |
| 09:42.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Most people call me a barbie doll, and I really do look like one |
| 09:42.35 | raylu | ... |
| 09:42.39 | raylu | they think you look like a barbie doll |
| 09:42.41 | CIA-9 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r59581 10Ace3/Ace3.lua: Ace3 - Close the config window opened with /ace3 when esc is pressed |
| 09:42.42 | raylu | so they want to lick yoU? |
| 09:42.46 | Shirik|Ecole | nono, differnet people |
| 09:42.53 | Shirik|Ecole | like guildies think I look like a barbie doll, and I do too |
| 09:43.01 | raylu | i understand [you are female]->[lick] and [you are female]->[barbie doll] |
| 09:43.02 | raylu | oh |
| 09:43.24 | Pkekyo|wrk | shirik: do you have some weirdass plastic-midget fetish or something? :/ |
| 09:43.30 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf? |
| 09:43.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't go around licking barbie dolls! |
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| 09:44.36 | nevcairiel | when i run around in any sexy outfit i get kissed and licked all the time |
| 09:44.37 | Shirik|Ecole | If a credit card says it expires 02/08 |
| 09:44.43 | Shirik|Ecole | is that the beginning or the end of the month? |
| 09:44.44 | nevcairiel | but in full T6 that doesnt happen really =P |
| 09:44.52 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: green winter clothes? |
| 09:44.57 | nevcairiel | nah red |
| 09:44.59 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:45.02 | Shirik|Ecole | ah, puny alliance! |
| 09:45.02 | Pkekyo|wrk | shirik: either way you're screwed |
| 09:45.12 | Shirik|Ecole | why am I screwed? |
| 09:45.29 | Pkekyo|wrk | because you run around licking barbie dolls? O.o |
| 09:45.42 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, I thought you were talking about my credit card |
| 09:45.46 | raylu | i thought we just established (s)he doesn't |
| 09:46.10 | Pkekyo|wrk | I'd say you're fucked with the credit card too |
| 09:46.17 | Shirik|Ecole | oh hey, check it out, I have a PM |
| 09:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | guildies must be concerned that I left |
| 09:46.27 | Pkekyo|wrk | 01/02-2008, it expires..I'd say |
| 09:46.29 | Shirik|Ecole | or saying "good riddance" |
| 09:47.08 | Pkekyo|wrk | if you go 'round licking barebiedolls, I'd say good riddance |
| 09:47.33 | raylu | XD |
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| 09:50.59 | Shirik|Ecole | funny thing is, I'm the only one who knows anything about our website's code and server setup |
| 09:51.07 | Shirik|Ecole | and trust me, it's not anything resembling simple |
| 09:51.45 | Pkekyo|wrk | fuck me sideways, I've run out of things to do whilst not doing what I'm supposed to...someone give me a tip on how to amuse myself! |
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| 09:52.48 | thul | www.break.com ? :-P |
| 09:52.54 | Shirik|Ghost | school network is so pathetic |
| 09:52.56 | Shirik|Ghost | anyway |
| 09:53.00 | Shirik|Ghost | (04:51:50) (+Shirik|Ecole) uh |
| 09:53.02 | Shirik|Ghost | (04:51:53) (+Shirik|Ecole) well |
| 09:53.04 | Shirik|Ghost | (04:51:58) (+Shirik|Ecole) I know! |
| 09:53.06 | Shirik|Ghost | (04:52:05) (+Shirik|Ecole) Go test your GFIs/circuit breakers |
| 09:53.16 | Shirik|Ghost | (04:52:14) * Disconnected |
| 09:53.22 | Shirik|Ghost | go shove a fork into an electrical outlet and see if you die |
| 09:53.26 | Shirik|Ghost | if your house is properly wired, you won't |
| 09:53.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 09:53.51 | nevcairiel | easiest way to test your houses wiring, eh? |
| 09:53.59 | Shirik|Ecole | well if you lack the tools |
| 09:54.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I happen to have a specially wired system to test OCP/OVP |
| 09:54.24 | Shirik|Ecole | but if you don't have them, a fork will do |
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| 09:55.26 | Pkekyo|wrk | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1201513593268.jpg bwahahahhaha |
| 09:55.37 | Pkekyo|wrk | thul: break.com isn't entertaining anymore :/ |
| 09:57.00 | Shirik|Ecole | wow, wikipedia doesn't know what OCP is |
| 09:57.02 | Shirik|Ecole | that's kinda sad |
| 09:57.03 | thul | www.xkcd.com |
| 09:57.07 | thul | www.explosm.com |
| 09:57.10 | thul | www.lfg.com |
| 09:57.16 | thul | or is it lfgcomic.com |
| 09:57.22 | thul | lfgcomic |
| 09:57.33 | Pkekyo|wrk | read all the lfgs |
| 09:57.47 | Pkekyo|wrk | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1201513191394.jpg |
| 09:57.57 | thul | 4chan is not the answer my son |
| 09:58.41 | Pkekyo|wrk | agreed |
| 10:01.18 | Shirik|Ecole | ah crap, nevcairiel figured out what it was :) |
| 10:01.50 | Shirik|Ecole | The command I'm sending requests a value from a sensor. The a-d converter takes about 15ms sampling the device to get a good reading |
| 10:01.51 | CIA-9 | 03helium * r59582 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:01.51 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:01.51 | CIA-9 | - Boss, Spell, Tradeskill: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:02.23 | CIA-9 | 03helium * r59583 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0: updated zhTW localization |
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| 10:02.41 | nevcairiel | whats with me? |
| 10:02.41 | CIA-9 | 03helium * r59584 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:03.17 | CIA-9 | 03helium * r59585 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:03.33 | CIA-9 | 03helium * r59586 10SpellEventsLib/SpellEventsLib.toc: SpellEventsLib: bump toc to 20300 |
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| 10:07.40 | Pkekyo|wrk | BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOEOOEOWMPF |
| 10:07.49 | Shirik|Ecole | was that your computer exploding? |
| 10:08.46 | Pkekyo|wrk | no, that's onomatepoeia... |
| 10:09.02 | Industrial | =_ |
| 10:09.05 | Pkekyo|wrk | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1201511232091.jpg |
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| 10:14.09 | Roath | anyone know if its possible to check if a savedvariable is set and if so, what that function is called? |
| 10:14.27 | JoshBork1 | roath: a saved variable is a global |
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| 10:14.40 | haste | if(MySavedVarGlobal) then --[[ Hi ]] end --? |
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| 10:15.08 | Roath | so that will only do "Hi" if it exists, right? |
| 10:15.18 | nevcairiel | Hi is a comment |
| 10:15.18 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:15.36 | Roath | i know, was easier to write it that way :P |
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| 10:16.48 | thul | i ge tpython vibes. |
| 10:26.07 | Pkekyo|wrk | crafhlabwoop |
| 10:32.04 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone who knows my math, please confirm. Bitwise purposes for 8 bit, -1 == 255. Concurrently, 256+signed == unsigned, right? |
| 10:32.18 | Shirik|Ecole | s/my math/two's compliment/ |
| 10:32.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I need sleep... |
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| 10:33.25 | ckknight | Shirik|Ecole: but only for negatives |
| 10:33.29 | ckknight | but yes. |
| 10:33.41 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry I should have been specific, that will be used in the case where signed is negative :) thans |
| 10:33.42 | Shirik|Ecole | thanks |
| 10:34.36 | Shirik|Ecole | specifically: (data[offset ]<0?data[offset ]+256:data[offset])%256; |
| 10:35.20 | Shirik|Ecole | actually, shouldn't (256+signed)%256 work? |
| 10:35.29 | Shirik|Ecole | (for both signed and unsigned) |
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| 10:36.57 | Shirik|Ecole | s/signed and unsigned/positive and negative/ |
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| 10:38.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ERROR: JDWP Unable to get JNI 1.2 environment, jvm->GetEnv() return code = -2 |
| 10:38.38 | Shirik|Ecole | JDWP exit error AGENT_ERROR_NO_JNI_ENV(183): [../../../src/share/back/util.c:820] |
| 10:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | is that supposed to mean "go to sleep already!!" |
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| 10:41.46 | Orionshock | question: would this sort function work? http://ace.pastey.net/81383 |
| 10:43.50 | nevcairiel | needs a return |
| 10:44.28 | Shirik|Ecole | aye, but other than that you should be ok |
| 10:46.24 | Thrae | Arrgggh I can't get my Travel Form macro right -- it *always* casts Travel Form |
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| 10:50.02 | neenee | What do you want your macro to do |
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| 11:06.13 | tinderbox | does anyone know if there is an addon to bigwigs to display bg timers in it? |
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| 11:07.17 | [Ammo] | tinderbox: no there isn't |
| 11:07.22 | [Ammo] | tinderbox: bigwigs = pve addon not pvp |
| 11:07.25 | [Ammo] | use Capping |
| 11:07.53 | tinderbox | i just like consistency |
| 11:08.03 | [Ammo] | capping uses the same timerbars bigwigs does |
| 11:08.09 | [Ammo] | so that should be consistent enough |
| 11:08.18 | tinderbox | in the same place? |
| 11:08.36 | [Ammo] | you can move the bars to the same position |
| 11:08.39 | tinderbox | or do i have to config locations independently? |
| 11:08.46 | [Ammo] | and bigwigs will never run together with capping anyway |
| 11:09.12 | Funkeh` | thats a bit misleading, it won't run in the same frame, the mods work fine together |
| 11:13.45 | tinderbox | hmm.. i may have to make a new pet project to port capping to a bigwigs module |
| 11:13.50 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:14.01 | [Ammo] | bigwigs is not a pvp addon |
| 11:14.07 | [Ammo] | please go back to deadly boss mods |
| 11:14.23 | Olison | tinderbox: capping |
| 11:14.24 | Funkeh` | uh |
| 11:14.28 | Funkeh` | heres an idea |
| 11:14.29 | [Ammo] | just use Capping |
| 11:14.30 | Funkeh` | edit capping |
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| 11:14.35 | Funkeh` | and print it in the same frame |
| 11:14.39 | Funkeh` | tada |
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| 11:23.59 | Shirik|Ecole | [Ammo]: I can't STAND that dbm has a pvp module |
| 11:24.14 | Shirik|Ecole | and what's worse, it's like,every time I'm in AV, it decides to have 5 bazillion timers in the middle of my screen |
| 11:24.31 | Olison | disable it, done |
| 11:24.43 | Shirik|Ecole | every time I decide to pvp I have to disable my addons? No thanks |
| 11:24.54 | Olison | the pvp module |
| 11:24.57 | Shirik|Ecole | sad as it is, easier to right click 8 times every few minutes |
| 11:24.57 | Olison | >_> |
| 11:25.15 | Industrial | DONT USE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE oops caps, fixed. |
| 11:25.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I keep it for the other bgs, though I probably shouldn't |
| 11:26.08 | thul | people are so angry |
| 11:26.09 | thul | :-( |
| 11:26.19 | thul | WHERE DOES ALL THE ANGER COME FROM YOUNG PADWAN?! |
| 11:26.20 | Chompers | whats wrong with bigwigs |
| 11:26.32 | thul | what is wrong with small wigs? or no wigs at all? :-( |
| 11:26.32 | [Ammo] | someone requesting pvp timers in bigwigs yet again |
| 11:26.33 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 11:26.52 | Chompers | :< |
| 11:27.18 | Chompers | i'd like a timer to count down till the next pvp timer request |
| 11:27.29 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:30.53 | thul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:31.28 | thul | running lightroom, photoshop, photomatix AND stuff like safari etc. |
| 11:31.34 | thul | kills my macbook, even though I have 2.5G ram |
| 11:32.28 | tinderbox | if the pvp-bars-in-bigwigs feature request is so common as to warrant that kind of response, wouldnt that suggest that the feature request has a bit of merit? |
| 11:32.41 | Funkeh` | no |
| 11:32.51 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:32.51 | thul | the nazi answer award |
| 11:32.53 | thul | GOES TOOOOOO |
| 11:32.59 | thul | hmm, hard choise |
| 11:33.02 | thul | [Ammo] or Funkeh` :-( |
| 11:33.07 | [Ammo] | BigWigs is a PvE addon |
| 11:33.10 | [Ammo] | and it's focus is just that |
| 11:33.14 | Funkeh` | tinderbox, explain to me, how the hell pvp timers belong in a boss mod |
| 11:33.17 | [Ammo] | anything beyond that has the simple 'no' |
| 11:33.29 | [Ammo] | if you want an all in one package, go use deadly boss mods |
| 11:34.01 | tinderbox | Funkeh`: because ive already spent a lot of time configuring bigwigs, and would be annoyed by having to do it twice.. when it seems like pvp bars would be really easy to write as a bigwigs module, and the bars serve the same purpose in pvp as the bars do on bosses in pve |
| 11:34.14 | CIA-9 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59587 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: removed some PLAYER_LOGIN stuff |
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| 11:34.25 | Funkeh` | SO you want pvp timers in a boss mod, which has nothing to do with pvp, because you are lazy? |
| 11:34.50 | thul | the "nothing to do with pvp" is an abstraction layer |
| 11:34.54 | Funkeh` | Thats why DBM was made, lots of bloat for lazy people |
| 11:34.55 | thul | which is constructed. |
| 11:35.01 | tinderbox | artificially.. |
| 11:35.02 | thul | that is not a real argument |
| 11:35.03 | thul | to be honest. |
| 11:35.09 | Funkeh` | Yes it is |
| 11:35.16 | thul | one could say "the author wants it to be a pve-module" |
| 11:35.18 | Funkeh` | Its called, not loosing focus of your programs aims |
| 11:35.24 | tinderbox | configuring the same thing twice should cause any programmer worth his salt to twitch |
| 11:35.26 | thul | or.. "I doesen't want it to be a pvp module" |
| 11:35.48 | thul | or you can say, "I don't want to lose aim of making the best pve-module possible" |
| 11:35.53 | Funkeh` | tinderbox, Eh, if anything it gives you move configuration power. |
| 11:35.57 | Chompers | someone needs to program a virtual turd and call it bigwigs_pvp |
| 11:36.04 | thul | but stating "it is a pve-module" alone isn't a very valid argument |
| 11:36.10 | Chompers | oh, i'd love to see their faces when they join AV |
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| 11:36.36 | Funkeh` | thul, Sorry, maybe you should read the addon notes |
| 11:36.42 | Funkeh` | It's pretty self explanatory |
| 11:36.51 | Funkeh` | The aim of the addon |
| 11:36.55 | thul | well, that might be, that doesen't make the argument more valid.. ;-) |
| 11:37.06 | Funkeh` | Yes, it does. |
| 11:37.10 | thul | not really. |
| 11:37.19 | Funkeh` | Every program has an aim. |
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| 11:37.31 | thul | I'm the law-student here, you are the nerd, I'll leave the programming up to you, you'll leave the rethorics up to me ;-) |
| 11:37.47 | thul | speaking of that, I have to run to bankrupcy class, so I'll have to leave you :/ |
| 11:37.58 | tinderbox | i can understand bigwigs' author not wanting to write a pvp module.. maybe he gets ganked a lot and is very bitter towards pvp.. im just surprised another author hasnt done it yet |
| 11:38.19 | tinderbox | seeing as it is modular and all |
| 11:38.24 | Chompers | uh |
| 11:38.24 | Funkeh` | tinderbox, Are you completely ignoring what I just said or? |
| 11:38.29 | Chompers | its a pve addon |
| 11:38.37 | Chompers | take your pvp and fuck off |
| 11:38.54 | Funkeh` | tinderbox, The functionality is already available in another addon, its not being replicated into BigWigs |
| 11:38.57 | tinderbox | lol, i think just for the hostility im starting on bigwigs_pvp right now |
| 11:39.13 | Funkeh` | Sure |
| 11:40.21 | thul | (for the record, if some external writer makes a pvp-module for bigwigs, does that in any way "destroy" the pve-focus of other writers? ;-) ofcourse not.. that is the simple base line here.. If someone wanted to make a bloated module to kahakai, that would ofcourse be against the very soul of kahakai, but if that module was what that author wanted/needed, why should the original authors care? ;-) ) |
| 11:41.17 | Funkeh` | external mods are external for a reason |
| 11:41.20 | Funkeh` | do whatever you want |
| 11:41.27 | Kalroth | As long as the module is optional, why should anyone care? Isn't that the point of the current wowace source system? If you want to code additional features to an addon, you simply do so. |
| 11:41.31 | Funkeh` | PvP timers will never be in the core bigwigs addon |
| 11:42.05 | Kalroth | Yup, wowace got amazing support for external modules, due to it being so .. modular! |
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| 11:43.26 | ckknight | too much hostility |
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| 12:44.12 | thul | some people makes me cry |
| 12:45.18 | Ozguli | the stupid ones? |
| 12:45.32 | Ozguli | they're the ones who cause most trouble |
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| 12:52.34 | thul | yes, stupid ones :-( |
| 12:52.53 | Ellipsis | stupid people suck |
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| 12:54.52 | thul | well, if those two girls a few minutes ago had done that, I would have been happy |
| 12:55.08 | thul | but they just talked, sang, whisteled AND made fart-noises... |
| 12:55.17 | thul | that is just _great_ behaviour from 3. year law students :-( |
| 12:55.23 | thul | and me trying to study? impossible :-( |
| 12:55.28 | thul | I'll keep on reading at home.. |
| 12:55.30 | thul | fo sho. |
| 12:55.35 | thul | stupid bitches everywhere :-( |
| 12:56.49 | thul | it makes drunk and bitter jesus cry |
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| 13:08.03 | smoke_ | is there a way to get more macros other than the default amount? |
| 13:11.44 | Shirik | there are addons to do this |
| 13:12.25 | neenee | Ask incomplete questions without the needed context? Nope. |
| 13:12.32 | neenee | Ah |
| 13:12.46 | Shirik | so confused... |
| 13:13.01 | SunTsu | .o0( neeee, neeee, neeeeee ) |
| 13:13.24 | Shirik | haha neenee thought I was asking a question? |
| 13:13.30 | neenee | :) |
| 13:13.37 | neenee | Indeed, I read 'are there' instead of 'there are'. |
| 13:13.55 | Shirik | it's ok, approximately 90% of the world doesn't know how to ask a question in English |
| 13:14.04 | Shirik | so your misreading was perfectly justifable |
| 13:14.17 | neenee | Mainly because a lot of them are Chinese and are not very good at English |
| 13:14.35 | Shirik | no, mainly because our current generation is a bunch of morons whom didn't pay attention in school |
| 13:14.47 | Shirik | "u heals?" "hi wud u heal 4 arc plox?" |
| 13:14.58 | neenee | It's a good thing then that 'our current generation' is only a small part of the people who are alive. |
| 13:15.12 | MoonWolf | and also overly generalised. |
| 13:15.19 | neenee | Yup, that too :) |
| 13:15.26 | Shirik | obviously I'm severely exaggerating |
| 13:15.27 | SunTsu | Well, every single generation sucked. Just ask the one before it |
| 13:15.36 | Shirik | so true |
| 13:15.39 | neenee | Or the one after it when they're in puberty |
| 13:15.47 | neenee | According to them everything is against them |
| 13:16.35 | Shirik | you all just don't understand me! |
| 13:16.46 | Shirik | sorry, sorry, wait |
| 13:16.57 | SunTsu | .o0( "Every generation got it's own desease" ) |
| 13:16.57 | Shirik | "u all just dont understand me" |
| 13:16.59 | Shirik | there we go |
| 13:17.03 | neenee | *disease even :) |
| 13:17.20 | Shirik | You know, it's difficult to type in crappy gamer talk |
| 13:17.25 | SunTsu | neenee: Yeah, you're right |
| 13:17.51 | Shirik | even something as simple as replacing "you" with "u" is difficult for me... I think I type too quickly |
| 13:21.05 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59588 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Commit preliminary Routes support. Turns out to be pretty superfluous though, because I sure as hell would be staring at the minimap to see blips, not the lines on the HuD! |
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| 13:21.26 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59589 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Expose Routes.G so GatherHud can use it for a while. |
| 13:22.00 | Xinhuan | proof of concepts: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp8.jpg |
| 13:22.03 | Xinhuan | proof of concepts: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp9.jpg |
| 13:22.15 | smoke_ | err |
| 13:22.37 | smoke_ | theres an addon that expands the default macro ui? |
| 13:22.50 | neenee | What is the big circle for? |
| 13:22.54 | Xinhuan | can you explain what "expand" means? |
| 13:23.04 | smoke_ | like, say if i got all my global macros filled |
| 13:23.10 | Xinhuan | the big circle is for me to debug where the edge of the line drawing is supposed to end |
| 13:23.10 | smoke_ | plus my player profiled macros |
| 13:23.17 | Xinhuan | smoke, nope |
| 13:23.22 | Xinhuan | hardcoded limit in wow |
| 13:23.24 | smoke_ | k |
| 13:23.33 | smoke_ | oh yeah |
| 13:23.49 | smoke_ | is there a better addon than simpleminimap for minimaps ? heh |
| 13:24.17 | smoke_ | theres some things i cant do that i want to do with simple minimap.. but maybe im just a big moron and im not configuring it correctly |
| 13:24.27 | MoonWolf | its good to know that even greek philosophers complained how the youth was terrible. |
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| 13:24.59 | smoke_ | oh damn nice u play a mage too xinhuan |
| 13:26.19 | mykx | hrm Xinhuan not sure that you have enough gold there |
| 13:26.36 | Xinhuan | of course its not enough |
| 13:26.42 | Xinhuan | gold limit is 214.7k gold |
| 13:27.11 | mykx | yeah I read about that on worldofraids |
| 13:27.26 | [SW]Dodge | meh on my server someone reached gold limit :D |
| 13:29.02 | FinalX | Xinhuan: that's not entirely true. in that screenshot he got traded more money, and the trade failed because he'd be at gold limit if it succeeded |
| 13:29.12 | FinalX | so meh :o |
| 13:29.13 | FinalX | :P |
| 13:29.29 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 13:29.39 | Xinhuan | my SS is to show a concept, not to show my gold! |
| 13:29.44 | FinalX | xD |
| 13:30.01 | mykx | lol your gold got my attention :( |
| 13:31.09 | mykx | but as far as the routes goes. does it map out the most common herbs or what because i'm sure theres more than what you have displayed |
| 13:31.35 | Xinhuan | proof of concepts: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp5.jpg |
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| 13:32.01 | mykx | ah nice :) |
| 13:32.01 | Xinhuan | that's the same route i think |
| 13:32.18 | Industrial | nice Xinhuan |
| 13:32.21 | mykx | you make all that gold with herbing and that addon? hehe |
| 13:32.32 | Xinhuan | i don't even have characters with those profs |
| 13:32.45 | Xinhuan | i just code stuff for good challenge |
| 13:33.01 | Xinhuan | the maths behind all the optimization is a bit extreme |
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| 13:33.53 | mykx | what are the black dots, specifically in netherwing ledge |
| 13:34.00 | Lemming2K | eggs |
| 13:34.08 | mykx | ahh right |
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| 13:36.02 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r59590 10/branches/GatherMate_Data/GatherMateData.lua: GatherMate_Data: send a GatherMateDataImport message after import is done |
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| 13:39.52 | Paradox | is there any way to do this via a macro: first click equip shield, second click change X weapon back to offhand slot? |
| 13:39.58 | Paradox | and repeat step 1 |
| 13:40.13 | pb_ee1 | Yo |
| 13:41.46 | CIA-9 | 03pb_ee1 * r59592 10LZProfiler/ (LZProfiler.lua Locale.lua): LZProfiler: Removing warning. |
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| 13:43.30 | Xinhuan | Paradox: /equipslot X item |
| 13:43.35 | Xinhuan | where X is a slot number |
| 13:43.47 | Xinhuan | i think offhands is 17? |
| 13:44.08 | Paradox | mmm right |
| 13:44.10 | Paradox | works |
| 13:44.11 | Xinhuan | so /equipslot 17 someshield /equipslot 17 someoffhand |
| 13:44.14 | Xinhuan | 2 lines |
| 13:44.26 | Xinhuan | it'll try to do both, but only one of the 2 lines will work |
| 13:44.29 | nevcairiel | you sure that this wont equip the offhand all the time? |
| 13:44.36 | Xinhuan | depending on which is equipped |
| 13:44.39 | Xinhuan | i'm sure |
| 13:44.50 | Xinhuan | cos server needs to respond with an equipment change |
| 13:44.56 | Xinhuan | before you can swap the same slot |
| 13:46.54 | Paradox | works fine |
| 13:46.57 | Paradox | thanks Xinhuan |
| 13:54.51 | Adys | anyone around owner of an amazon kindle? |
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| 13:57.45 | CIA-9 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59593 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: cleaning and optimizations |
| 14:00.56 | RaydenUni | are there many quests in swamp of sorrows? |
| 14:01.33 | Shirik | better question is "are there many quests worth doing in swamp of sorrows" |
| 14:01.35 | Shirik | answer to that is no |
| 14:01.42 | RaydenUni | i never did it on my main |
| 14:01.50 | RaydenUni | i have a 43 druid now and i'm looking for places |
| 14:01.51 | nevcairiel | there arent many quests at all in the swamps, tho |
| 14:01.57 | RaydenUni | also hinterlands40-50 is a joke |
| 14:01.59 | Shirik | I found a decent number of them |
| 14:02.01 | RaydenUni | at 42 i couldn't get any quests |
| 14:02.07 | Shirik | however while I was in sos I wanted to shoot myself |
| 14:02.08 | Shirik | the whole time |
| 14:02.18 | Shirik | nevcairiel: You're alliance, of course you don't have quests :P |
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| 14:02.42 | nevcairiel | go back and play with your barbie char |
| 14:02.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:02.55 | Shirik | I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world |
| 14:03.50 | RaydenUni | it must suck to get to ST for alliance |
| 14:04.16 | RaydenUni | ooh i think SoS is good for skinning and herbalism though |
| 14:04.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i leveled herbalism in SoS |
| 14:04.31 | nevcairiel | and why is ST bad for alliance? |
| 14:04.38 | nevcairiel | we just walk down from duskwood |
| 14:04.46 | nevcairiel | first flying point in rebell camp there |
| 14:05.01 | RaydenUni | just seems farther away |
| 14:05.10 | RaydenUni | i don't know where the fp is cause i don't have any alliance |
| 14:05.26 | nevcairiel | isnt the rebell camp a neutral fp? |
| 14:05.42 | nevcairiel | i always thought so *shrug |
| 14:05.50 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 14:06.03 | RaydenUni | wowhead has a map showing locations of questgivers |
| 14:06.05 | RaydenUni | rebel camp? |
| 14:06.06 | RaydenUni | where is that? |
| 14:06.34 | nevcairiel | in the north, directly after entering STV |
| 14:06.57 | nevcairiel | hm i guess its alliance only |
| 14:07.18 | RaydenUni | i've only ever walked through there to get to SoS |
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| 14:10.42 | SqueeG | Any addon scripters around atm? >>> |
| 14:10.44 | SqueeG | >.>* |
| 14:12.28 | Grum | SqueeG: ofc not, that would be too obvious |
| 14:12.34 | SqueeG | =p |
| 14:12.43 | SqueeG | I was just hoping to pick someone's brain real quick |
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| 14:13.25 | RaydenUni | http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article3261591.ece |
| 14:13.35 | SqueeG | I aassume it's kind of a bad hour of the day for such things though xD |
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| 14:15.29 | SqueeG | aaah >.< a picture of michael jackson @_@ |
| 14:15.31 | Grum | well what are you pondering about SqueeG ? |
| 14:15.37 | SqueeG | the use of mod() |
| 14:15.43 | SqueeG | I've never seen it before |
| 14:15.46 | Grum | modulo |
| 14:15.56 | Grum | or % .. |
| 14:16.30 | [dRaCo] | like in 5 % 4 = 1 |
| 14:16.34 | [dRaCo] | :P |
| 14:16.34 | Grum | yup |
| 14:16.44 | SqueeG | hm |
| 14:17.09 | Grum | basicly: % stands for: the remainder after division |
| 14:17.30 | SqueeG | so... secondsDifference = mod(time(), 60) would be equal to %(time(),60) ? |
| 14:18.23 | [dRaCo] | time() % 60, yeah... imo % is an operator, not a function |
| 14:18.38 | [dRaCo] | s/imo/iirc/ |
| 14:18.50 | SqueeG | i assume that's why mod was used |
| 14:18.58 | [dRaCo] | probably |
| 14:19.05 | SqueeG | awesome, thank you so much ^^ |
| 14:19.06 | Grum | not really |
| 14:19.09 | SqueeG | no? |
| 14:19.12 | Grum | time() % 60 would do the same |
| 14:19.16 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 14:19.46 | [dRaCo] | but %(x,y) wouldnt work since % isnt a function but an operator |
| 14:20.05 | Grum | a % b is the same as: a - floor(a/b)*a |
| 14:20.07 | Grum | with b not 0 |
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| 14:21.17 | Industrial | Anyone here play Tabula Rasa? |
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| 14:22.13 | SqueeG | that's one hell of a representation :p |
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| 14:22.53 | Grum | SqueeG: in normal words; the remainder of the division |
| 14:24.22 | SqueeG | yea... i see taht now, i haven't slept yet though, so im on the slow side right now, and i haven't delved into script in ages |
| 14:26.23 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
| 14:26.45 | SqueeG | mornin ^-^ |
| 14:27.46 | Zhinjio | I was dreaming about my code. I suppose that either means I need to finish it, or it means I need to take a break from iut |
| 14:27.51 | Zhinjio | ~seen Zasifras |
| 14:27.59 | purl | zasifras <i=Zasifras@c-67-190-16-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 7h 56m 47s ago, saying: 'i just did do you see it?'. |
| 14:28.14 | SqueeG | I've done that... it means both |
| 14:29.14 | SqueeG | @Grum and dRaCo: thank you both, you were a big help ^^ |
| 14:29.48 | [dRaCo] | =) |
| 14:29.50 | Grum | slacker ;D |
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| 14:35.01 | SqueeG | heh |
| 14:35.10 | SqueeG | Grum, you used floor in that equation |
| 14:35.25 | Grum | yes? |
| 14:35.32 | SqueeG | what's that represent O-o |
| 14:35.36 | Grum | seriously |
| 14:35.39 | Grum | stop this now |
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| 14:35.41 | SqueeG | totally |
| 14:35.41 | Grum | read a book |
| 14:35.44 | SqueeG | lol |
| 14:35.44 | Grum | watch some pr0n |
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| 14:36.01 | Grum | dont try to code unless you know the basics of math |
| 14:36.08 | Grum | (not kidding tbh) |
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| 14:36.16 | SqueeG | heh |
| 14:36.21 | SqueeG | they don't teach that shit anymore |
| 14:36.23 | Grum | you know what round() would do? |
| 14:36.29 | SqueeG | they make you push buttons ona calculator |
| 14:36.34 | Zhinjio | Industrial: I did right after it came out for a few weeks |
| 14:36.43 | SqueeG | round a number up or down? |
| 14:36.44 | nevcairiel | SqueeG: wrong school, then o.O |
| 14:36.47 | Grum | good |
| 14:36.50 | Zhinjio | something makes me happy I missed the beginning of this conversation. |
| 14:36.58 | Grum | now think of floor as a 'round it down' |
| 14:37.04 | Grum | floor(9.9) = 9 |
| 14:37.10 | SqueeG | gah >.O alright |
| 14:37.17 | Shirik | not "round it down" |
| 14:37.17 | nevcairiel | there is also ceil() |
| 14:37.23 | Grum | ceil() .. would be the opposite |
| 14:37.28 | SqueeG | yea i had a hell of a time finding teachers that didn't just make everyone buy 100 dollar calculators |
| 14:37.33 | Grum | ceil(9.0000001) == 10 |
| 14:37.34 | Shirik | "round it to the nearest number less than that" |
| 14:37.36 | SqueeG | and then call it math |
| 14:37.43 | Shirik | s/nearest/largest/ |
| 14:37.44 | Grum | ceil basicly is: floor(x)+1 |
| 14:37.54 | nevcairiel | Shirik you will confuse him even more! |
| 14:37.59 | Grum | or floor() is ceil(x)-1 |
| 14:38.06 | Shirik | It's an important difference! |
| 14:38.11 | nevcairiel | ohoh round is floor(a+0.5). ! |
| 14:38.12 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 14:38.33 | Grum | if you dont have round() but you do have floor or ceil, with that you can make round .. as: floor(x+0.5) or ceil(x-0.5) |
| 14:39.00 | Grum | but keep in mind that it doesnt behave 'right' for negative numbers |
| 14:39.07 | Shirik | you're nuts |
| 14:39.24 | Grum | i think that was enough basic math indeed ;) |
| 14:39.26 | nevcairiel | heh half my C class failed on that, rounding negative numbers |
| 14:39.30 | SqueeG | lol |
| 14:39.32 | Shirik | --> math.floor(-3.2+0.5) |
| 14:39.38 | Shirik | lua> math.floor(-3.2+0.5) |
| 14:39.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: -3, |
| 14:39.43 | Grum | nevcairiel: it depends how you define it |
| 14:39.48 | Shirik | and what's so "not right" about that again? |
| 14:40.18 | Grum | depends on definition |
| 14:40.24 | Shirik | not really.... |
| 14:40.31 | Shirik | you can't define another number to be closer |
| 14:40.35 | Shirik | unless you want to lie |
| 14:41.50 | Shirik | Also ceil(x-0.5) is not correct for the generally accepted definition of "round up at 0.5" |
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| 14:42.34 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/81390 |
| 14:42.42 | nevcairiel | we had to use that for accurate data |
| 14:43.30 | nevcairiel | lua> ceil(-1.5), floor(-1.5) |
| 14:43.30 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: -1, -2 |
| 14:44.09 | Shirik | besides, smart people use round to even |
| 14:44.14 | Stanzilla | bah |
| 14:44.18 | Shirik | =P |
| 14:44.20 | Stanzilla | the new firefox icons are really ugly |
| 14:44.32 | Shirik | sorry, signals and systems is getting the best of me |
| 14:44.33 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin all |
| 14:44.46 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
| 14:44.53 | nevcairiel | i need to learn VHDL some more |
| 14:44.57 | nevcairiel | i hate that stuff |
| 14:44.59 | SqueeG | so does round follow the rules of rounding up ovr .5 and down under .5? |
| 14:45.05 | dylanm | Stanzilla: What're these? |
| 14:45.21 | Stanzilla | dylanm: for xp: http://localhostr.com/files/fdfe06/Picture%201.png |
| 14:45.32 | Shirik | Hahahaha VHDL |
| 14:45.36 | Shirik | No you do not need to learn it |
| 14:45.38 | dylanm | Stanzilla: Oh the toolbar icons. |
| 14:45.43 | Shirik | in fact you will probably save some brain cells if you don't |
| 14:45.51 | nevcairiel | the stupid exam wants me to learn it |
| 14:45.57 | SqueeG | are you useing the firefox 3 beta? |
| 14:45.57 | Shirik | go get drunk, you'll lose less brain cells that way |
| 14:46.00 | dylanm | Stanzilla: They've been getting orse and worse it seems. Trying to shove the ie7 look in there now. |
| 14:46.15 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i know its fucking stupid, but i have a exam on it on wednesday =P |
| 14:46.20 | SqueeG | god i hate IE7s lay out >.< |
| 14:46.36 | nevcairiel | i'll probably never use it again afterwards |
| 14:46.39 | nevcairiel | but what can you do <.< |
| 14:47.01 | Stanzilla | dylanm: yeah...I don't use FF but it's getting worse from version to version |
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| 14:47.24 | SqueeG | there goes the 'revolution' |
| 14:47.24 | Shirik | OUT1 <= IN1 and IN2 |
| 14:47.25 | dylanm | The rendering remains very strong but I guess that doesn't really wow the users. |
| 14:47.37 | Shirik | yey... OUT1 is less than or equal to IN1 and IN2 |
| 14:47.40 | Shirik | wait... no |
| 14:47.43 | Shirik | actually they're equal |
| 14:47.45 | neenee | users just want to use their addons |
| 14:47.47 | Stanzilla | http://up.stantown.de/files/firefox_2.png <on vista |
| 14:47.50 | Shirik | but for some reason we decided to put a less than sign there because we're stupid |
| 14:47.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik: the thing is, i understand the logic in VHDL and all, i just cant memorize the stupid syntax |
| 14:48.00 | Shirik | and we needed to make it more complicated because we needed to look better |
| 14:48.02 | neenee | extensions I mean |
| 14:48.16 | dylanm | A lot of that doesn't look like Firefox's fault. |
| 14:48.18 | Shirik | oh and instead of std_logic |
| 14:48.36 | Shirik | we'll call it std_logic_1164 because EVERYONE uses standard numbers in their include files |
| 14:48.52 | Shirik | just like #include <stdio.hC99> |
| 14:48.54 | Shirik | oh wait... |
| 14:48.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:49.01 | Shirik | we don't really do that |
| 14:49.27 | nevcairiel | for some reason, software engineering includes a exam in VHDL .. oh well |
| 14:49.33 | nevcairiel | cant avoid it, so i've to learn it |
| 14:49.45 | Shirik | and don't you love those switch statements? |
| 14:49.53 | Shirik | From wikipedia because even I can't memorize this: when "00" => X <= A; |
| 14:50.17 | dylanm | nevcairiel: Tell them to shove it gawd this is as awful as I remember. |
| 14:50.20 | Shirik | I do like the arrows though, it makes it look pretty |
| 14:50.22 | dylanm | Good luck :) |
| 14:50.27 | nevcairiel | oh yeah switches are bad |
| 14:50.42 | Shirik | case ... is? |
| 14:50.47 | Stanzilla | dylanm: http://localhostr.com/files/169c06/Picture%201.png os x version is sexy |
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| 14:51.09 | Shirik | but yes, the syntax is horrible |
| 14:51.14 | dylanm | Stanzilla: Sadly we're all using Safari :p it does look nice though |
| 14:51.19 | neenee | Opera can look like that :P |
| 14:51.34 | Stanzilla | Opera can look like anything |
| 14:51.36 | Stanzilla | <3 opera |
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| 14:52.19 | Zhinjio | I used Opera for a good long while. Then it started falling behind in the "support of standards" game. THat was a long time ago, though |
| 14:52.20 | nevcairiel | trying to find my syntax sheet |
| 14:52.26 | Zhinjio | whats it got now that I need? |
| 14:54.26 | nevcairiel | here it is |
| 14:54.29 | nevcairiel | case statement .. |
| 14:54.32 | nevcairiel | god i hate it :P |
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| 15:17.52 | Arrowmaster | http://xkcd.com/376/ |
| 15:17.53 | Arrowmaster | win |
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| 15:22.18 | chiper | Arrowmaster: haha |
| 15:22.40 | chiper | I likes a good pun |
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| 15:26.15 | CIA-9 | 03ragnorok * r59596 10SCT_Cooldowns/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua SCT_Cooldowns.toc): |
| 15:26.15 | CIA-9 | SCT_Cooldowns: Version 7!! Long time no update! |
| 15:26.16 | CIA-9 | Updated Locale-enUS.lua and Core.lua |
| 15:26.16 | CIA-9 | Fixes groups not working caused by a multiple localization error, please Update Locale-koKR.lua to the same format at Locale-enUS.lua. |
| 15:26.16 | CIA-9 | I can not change the format without corrupting it, Thank you. |
| 15:26.57 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 15:27.33 | Ellipsis | I can has fail! |
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| 15:36.17 | Pkekyo| | jes |
| 15:36.18 | Pkekyo| | u r |
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| 16:28.46 | AnarchyAo | Hi. |
| 16:28.54 | AnarchyAo | Are any of you having issues with the latest version of Antagonist? |
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| 16:49.19 | kergoth | ~ugt |
| 16:49.19 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 16:55.59 | thul | I need sga s04e05->:( |
| 16:56.47 | Osstia | G'morning |
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| 16:57.49 | thul | quick learner that Osstia boy :-P |
| 16:58.07 | Osstia | I just got back to my desk |
| 16:58.13 | Osstia | so it really is g'morning for me |
| 16:58.15 | thul | ah, ok :-P |
| 16:58.25 | thul | I love spock's beard :-D |
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| 17:04.55 | Osstia | is antagonist the mod that will tell you who you are facing in an arena? |
| 17:05.20 | kneeki | Hey everyone :) |
| 17:05.27 | Osstia | hello kneeki |
| 17:05.37 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59599 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: GUI tweak |
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| 17:13.07 | Snago | someone uploaded Baggins2.jpg (782KB, MIME type: application/x-dosexec) to the wiki. I don't think he has good intentions |
| 17:13.23 | kneeki | Why is that? |
| 17:13.47 | Snago | look at the MIME type ^^ |
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| 17:13.51 | chiper | look at the mime type |
| 17:13.55 | kneeki | Ah |
| 17:13.57 | kneeki | Duh =P |
| 17:14.14 | kergoth | heh, thats no good |
| 17:14.41 | Hjalte_ | My friend just reinstalled wow, but can't find his burning crusade cd's anywhere. Does anyone know of a good place to download Burning Crusade fast? |
| 17:14.53 | chiper | isnt it on the website? |
| 17:14.56 | kergoth | you mean like the wow site? |
| 17:15.16 | Hjalte_ | Yeah, it's on the website, but is that download particularly fast? |
| 17:15.28 | chiper | it is if you can use bittorrent |
| 17:15.45 | Snago | should be faster than piratebay |
| 17:15.57 | chiper | now if you're behind a firewall or a shitty network it might not be |
| 17:16.59 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r59600 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - hook ChatFrame_OnEvent instead of ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 17:17.41 | ckknight | I just committed a fix |
| 17:17.48 | ckknight | and Ellipsis won't take off her shirt |
| 17:17.49 | ckknight | unfair |
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| 17:18.30 | SunTsu | Just start a "Miss Wet Ellipsis" Contest |
| 17:18.34 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 17:18.41 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:21.01 | kneeki | Ugh, I've been stuck on this problem for 2 hours now, anyone care to take a look? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4187424261&sid=1 |
| 17:21.12 | kneeki | No responce from anyone on WoW UI Forums yet =\ |
| 17:23.03 | nevcairiel | kneeki: so from where is that Update func called? |
| 17:23.21 | kneeki | A template.xml file in the <OnUpdate> |
| 17:23.40 | nevcairiel | and, whats the frames names? |
| 17:23.41 | kneeki | <OnUpdate> SealBarUpdate() </OnUpdate> is the line |
| 17:23.52 | kneeki | SealBarButton1 through 8 |
| 17:24.07 | nevcairiel | why do you use :gmatch ? |
| 17:24.09 | ckknight | I know the issue, kneeki |
| 17:24.14 | nevcairiel | if its only one hit |
| 17:24.18 | ckknight | I R SMRT |
| 17:24.21 | kneeki | I have no idea =\ |
| 17:24.29 | nevcairiel | plus, you have the order reverserd |
| 17:24.29 | kneeki | What do you see ckk? |
| 17:24.38 | nevcairiel | you need ("%d"):gmatch(name) |
| 17:24.47 | ckknight | kneeki: you need to do tonumber(num), currently you're doing SealBarSpells["1"], not SealBarSpells[1] |
| 17:24.58 | kneeki | ! |
| 17:24.59 | nevcairiel | that too |
| 17:25.23 | nevcairiel | lua> ("%d"):match("SealBarButton1") |
| 17:25.24 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil, |
| 17:25.24 | kneeki | Cogwheel gave me the string:gmatch("%d+") line |
| 17:25.26 | nevcairiel | er |
| 17:25.34 | ckknight | kneeki: use match instead of gmatch |
| 17:25.44 | ckknight | cogwheel is wrong in that specific instance |
| 17:25.48 | nevcairiel | lua> ("SealBarButton1"):match("%d") |
| 17:25.48 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1, |
| 17:26.02 | kneeki | oh =P |
| 17:26.03 | nevcairiel | lua> local num = tonumber(("SealBarButton1"):match("%d")); print(num) |
| 17:26.04 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1 |
| 17:26.06 | nevcairiel | there |
| 17:26.07 | kneeki | Okay, I'll switch it around |
| 17:26.22 | nevcairiel | no funny loop |
| 17:26.26 | nevcairiel | its only one match anyway |
| 17:26.47 | kneeki | Yeah, I thought the loop was a bit more than what needed, I just didn't know a better way to do it |
| 17:27.11 | Snago | ~PIL |
| 17:27.11 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:27.11 | kneeki | Well |
| 17:28.01 | kneeki | The .xml file is a template for the buttons, which I'm creating via LUA - the line you gave me: local num = tonumber(("SealBarButton1"):match("%d")) won't work unless I change SealBarButton1 to 'this' correct? |
| 17:28.01 | krka | kneeki: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 17:28.28 | kneeki | I know, it's a habbit you silly bot. |
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| 17:28.53 | ckknight | kneeki: so break out of it |
| 17:29.03 | kneeki | lol, indeed ;) |
| 17:29.34 | kneeki | Attempt to call method 'match' (a nil value) |
| 17:29.39 | kneeki | O.o |
| 17:30.00 | nevcairiel | use this:GetName():match |
| 17:30.23 | kneeki | Oh, duh! *bonk* |
| 17:30.55 | kneeki | Woot! It works! |
| 17:31.04 | kneeki | Thanks you two, and the bot ;) |
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| 17:43.45 | ramoz | !r 2000 |
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| 17:48.11 | Funkeh` | !ap 2000 |
| 17:48.12 | ThraeBot | Funkeh`: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054 |
| 17:48.15 | Funkeh` | ^_ |
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| 17:48.30 | [SW]Dodge | !rating 2000 |
| 17:48.31 | Xinhuan | 2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 17:48.34 | [SW]Dodge | :P |
| 17:48.49 | Zhinjio | ckknight: ping |
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| 17:48.50 | smoke_ | anyone experience some type of fps drop? |
| 17:49.11 | smoke_ | it happens randomly for a short period of time then goes away? |
| 17:49.44 | smoke_ | the performance drop is around like .. 10 seconds of duration, then all of a sudden its back to normal. |
| 17:50.02 | durcyn | check other processes running on your system - wow's framerate is highly CPU bound |
| 17:51.18 | chiper | make sure you dont have any desktop indexing running in the background |
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| 17:53.44 | Erica | Hi... Cowtip is so much better now after the changes but custom anchoring is still a bit wacky. I can't get the tips to stay where I want... any ideas? |
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| 17:55.15 | Erica | sorry but when using the custom anchoring feature and double clicking once positioned, the tips just seem to go where they want |
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| 17:55.35 | Erica | If I just select a position from the dropdown, it seems to work ok |
| 17:55.57 | Erica | Problem is that I can't fine tune where I want the tip... like if I want to just move it a couple inches down or something |
| 17:56.32 | Erica | I've also scaled it down to .8... which I think has been an issue for a while now when scaling |
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| 17:57.08 | Erica | I hope that's making more sense |
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| 17:58.05 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 17:58.25 | Erica | Hi |
| 17:59.24 | Erica | Can someone pass ckknight a cookie for me to get his attention? :P |
| 18:00.06 | Ellipsis | that depends |
| 18:00.13 | Ellipsis | what kind of cookie? |
| 18:00.20 | Erica | chocolate chip |
| 18:00.20 | [SW]Dodge | hashcookie |
| 18:00.37 | Erica | freshly baked so it's still all warm and squishy |
| 18:00.39 | kneeki | Hmm, is there a type of :SetAttribute() which inherits the 'range' status of spells? |
| 18:00.42 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 18:00.45 | Ellipsis | I might eat it instead |
| 18:00.57 | Erica | can't say I'd blame you |
| 18:01.57 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 18:02.03 | Erica | I guess he's afk if that didn't get his attention |
| 18:02.05 | Ellipsis | Erica, what's your UI scale set to? |
| 18:02.10 | Erica | .8 |
| 18:02.11 | Ellipsis | he's afk lying down next to me :P |
| 18:02.18 | Ellipsis | and what's cowtip's scale set to? |
| 18:02.19 | Erica | well the tip is set to .8 |
| 18:02.43 | Erica | my regular video scale is just default with 1600x1200 resolution running at 85khz |
| 18:02.59 | durcyn | 85 -kilo- hertz? i'm impressed. |
| 18:03.12 | Erica | lol |
| 18:03.15 | Ellipsis | just out of curiosity, are you having problems with the cowtip scale setting reverting to 1? |
| 18:03.44 | Erica | I haven't checked after relogging but just the positioning was getting my attention |
| 18:03.53 | thul | girlinvasion :-( |
| 18:04.04 | Erica | and that's bad?! |
| 18:04.33 | thul | hehe |
| 18:04.37 | Erica | gonna log back into WoW and see if the scale stayed set... brb |
| 18:04.42 | thul | well, I find it difficult to handle girls. |
| 18:04.54 | thul | they aren't rational :-P |
| 18:05.01 | Zhinjio | perhaps thats because you're seeking to "handle" them. |
| 18:05.12 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 18:05.18 | Ellipsis | we're perfectly rational |
| 18:05.18 | thul | haha |
| 18:05.23 | Ellipsis | except when chocolate is involved |
| 18:05.26 | Ellipsis | but that doesn't count! |
| 18:05.27 | thul | Zhinjio: almost 5 points, hadn't it been too old :-P |
| 18:05.32 | thul | Ellipsis: uh-well. |
| 18:05.47 | Zhinjio | I can be pretty darn irrational when chocolate is involved too |
| 18:05.49 | Erica | yeah the scale is staying set properly |
| 18:05.50 | kergoth | i think it's funny, guys often /think/ rationally, and believe they're rational, but half the time we act more out of emotion and insecurity than women do. they let them out, so they're less controlled by them |
| 18:05.54 | kergoth | it never ceases to amuse me |
| 18:06.05 | thul | kergoth: and you base that on...? :-) |
| 18:06.23 | thul | surely not empiry in any scientific matter, which ofcourse concludes in the opposite direction if you look at studies. |
| 18:06.32 | thul | so.. anecdotical retardevidence? :-D |
| 18:06.45 | Ellipsis | kergoth is win |
| 18:06.48 | Erica | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.55 | kergoth | just going by what i've seen |
| 18:06.57 | Ellipsis | you might as well be arguing with chuck norris, thul |
| 18:06.59 | Ellipsis | you just can't win |
| 18:07.03 | thul | I always win. |
| 18:07.12 | thul | especially when it comes to arguing :-) |
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| 18:07.30 | SunTsu | thul: STFU does not count as winning ;) |
| 18:07.34 | Zhinjio | so few people really actually know how to argue. |
| 18:07.38 | thul | and all scientific endavours in this area has concluded in the opposite direction than kergoth |
| 18:07.43 | kergoth | that explains why you have trouble with girls, you don't win arguments with girls, the best you can do is make sure you dig a small hole for yourself, not a large one |
| 18:07.46 | thul | Zhinjio: trust me, I do know how.. :-) |
| 18:07.52 | thul | kergoth: haha |
| 18:07.55 | thul | personal attacks.. ;-) |
| 18:07.55 | Primer | Anyone here use luaeclipse? Thoughts? |
| 18:07.56 | thul | tsk tsk |
| 18:07.59 | thul | kids these days. |
| 18:08.03 | kergoth | thul, link? the only ones i've seen have talked about the thought process, i'm talking about action. |
| 18:08.17 | Erica | OK thanks but I think you guys are totally focused on something else now. Good luck! lol |
| 18:08.31 | thul | yes, thought processes behind taking action, is totally unrelated to that said action. |
| 18:08.37 | thul | that was a.. marvelous point kergoth .. :-) |
| 18:08.41 | Fin | [19:08:12] <thul> and all scientific endavours in this area |
| 18:08.43 | Fin | seriously? |
| 18:08.45 | Fin | you've read them all? |
| 18:08.49 | Fin | wow |
| 18:09.00 | thul | Fin: most of the relevant ones, yes, and read the intros of the rest.. :-) why? |
| 18:09.13 | Fin | that's impressive! |
| 18:09.14 | thul | ofcourse, there are some obscure study I've not heard about. |
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| 18:09.28 | Fin | well, naturally, one does one's best |
| 18:09.30 | thul | but this _is_ a very interesting topic, most people should try to update themselves on it.. :-) |
| 18:09.57 | thul | understanding why people act like they do, what motivates them, what makes them "tick" so to speak, is very important to rule the world, which is my plan. |
| 18:09.57 | SunTsu | thul: So, who decides on what is obscure and what is relevant? |
| 18:10.12 | Zhinjio | let me know how that works out for you |
| 18:10.14 | thul | SunTsu: science has quite a few methods for selecting relevance. |
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| 18:10.21 | Zhinjio | I'll be over here with Ellipsis and some chocolate. |
| 18:10.23 | thul | SunTsu: everything from quote-count to peer-review results. |
| 18:10.33 | thul | Zhinjio: that is just beacause you haeven't seen my gf ;-) |
| 18:10.36 | SunTsu | thul: Wich is based on the same science. Great ;) |
| 18:10.56 | Zhinjio | uh... |
| 18:11.03 | thul | oh god.. not another "science is another religion, don't believe in it"-person :() |
| 18:11.06 | thul | i can't take it. |
| 18:11.18 | Fin | you are /quite/ the all-knowing expert, I have to say |
| 18:11.22 | thul | I am |
| 18:11.30 | thul | it is my lot in life :-) |
| 18:11.37 | Fin | it's so good to see someone with the confidence to admit that they're always right |
| 18:11.54 | thul | (exploiting the extreme tendency to adherance to the law of jante @ irc is even more fun) |
| 18:11.58 | thul | but that is another discussion. |
| 18:12.00 | Fin | so few people these days have that |
| 18:12.38 | Fin | it would be a real shame to introduce another discussion into this, I agree |
| 18:12.41 | kergoth | I don't think i've ever met a guy, myself included, that haven't made major decisions about their life based on insecurities or suppressed anger rather than logic |
| 18:12.55 | kergoth | rational thought process or no |
| 18:13.13 | thul | kergoth: I have not yet met one single norwegian that doesen't get _some_ tan while out in the sun |
| 18:13.18 | thul | that doesen't make norwegians black. |
| 18:13.18 | SunTsu | thul: I just could say: "No, not another 'science knows ist all!'-person! I can't take ist." |
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| 18:13.38 | Fin | please don't make this worse for yourself, kergoth, there's no possible way you can be right, I think we can see that quite clearly |
| 18:13.42 | kergoth | and i didn't say guys were never rational, either. |
| 18:13.47 | thul | SunTsu: science doesen't know all, but it is surely the best model to find it all out in time.. :-) |
| 18:13.51 | kergoth | i said they often act out of emotion, despite claims to the contrary |
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| 18:14.04 | thul | kergoth: the polarizing effect of such an argument is hardly effective for fronting your cause. |
| 18:14.32 | Fin | "the ... effect ... is hardly effective" |
| 18:14.34 | Ellipsis | clearly rational thought is overrated. |
| 18:14.53 | Fin | rational AND irrational, Elli |
| 18:15.01 | Fin | thought in general, I believe |
| 18:15.13 | SunTsu | thul: Yes, it just takes time ;) And after enough time some obscure things do not look so obscure anymore and the relevant things don#t look so relevant anymore ;) |
| 18:15.35 | thul | SunTsu: well, please elaborate :-) |
| 18:15.37 | Fin | what do the relevant things look like? |
| 18:15.44 | Fin | +at that point |
| 18:16.06 | Synneth | what is the script command to set a raid icon (like the skull, triangle, square, etc) |
| 18:16.14 | SunTsu | thul: Like 2000 years ago it was an oscure theory that people could fly in a metal box ;) |
| 18:16.53 | thul | SunTsu: yes, but their gemoetrical theories (that led up, in part, to that flight) is not irrelevant :-) |
| 18:17.41 | thul | Men have a tendency to analyze and construct systems, while women are inclined to empathize (according to, for example, Simon Baron-Cohen) |
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| 18:18.07 | Ellipsis | thul: your mom. |
| 18:18.20 | SunTsu | thul: And some hundred years ago it was a relevant theory that nobody ever could go faster than a horse can run and that a train would be that fast so that it would press all oxygene out of your lungs and make them implode |
| 18:18.20 | thul | Ellipsis: is a quite nice lady, thank you :-D |
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| 18:18.46 | thul | SunTsu: care to give me sources? ;-) |
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| 18:19.00 | CIA-9 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 18:19.00 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:21.02 | Fin | hey, thul, just out of interest, but can you give us some links to some of the sources you're talking about? |
| 18:21.15 | thul | well, i gave you a source over there |
| 18:21.20 | SunTsu | thul: I don't have any sources handy. I was just saying that the point of view in science shifts all the time about what is obscure and what is relevant. |
| 18:21.20 | Fin | just like 8 or 9 |
| 18:21.22 | thul | if you have libmed acces, just search for the writer. |
| 18:21.30 | thul | and you'll have your source :-) |
| 18:21.44 | Fin | you're being facetious |
| 18:21.52 | thul | science doesen't shift from extremes |
| 18:22.02 | thul | it evolves, some roads are dead ends, but most progress. |
| 18:22.11 | thul | it doesen't jump from a to z without any intermediates :-) |
| 18:22.13 | Fin | nice sermon, but, sources? |
| 18:22.21 | thul | Fin: I gave you a name :-) |
| 18:22.26 | Fin | one name |
| 18:22.29 | thul | i can give you the title of the book too ofc. |
| 18:22.36 | kergoth | the way i see it, just because guys analyze and try to think rationally, consciously, doesn't mean they always act out of conscoius thought, and if they do, it can still be an irrational act due to their analysis being based on a belief that came about out of emotion rather than fact. garbage in, garbage out. rational thought can't output factual information without a factual basis |
| 18:22.36 | SunTsu | thul: Right, because after one thing is common knowledge it's no extreme anymore |
| 18:22.39 | Fin | that's not quite the entire body of relevant work |
| 18:22.56 | dylanm | Uh-oh it's thul. |
| 18:23.10 | kergoth | but i think thul and i will just have to agree to disagree on this, there won't be any convincing in either direction :P |
| 18:23.15 | thul | kergoth: ofcourse, that said, men utilizes systems, rational thought to a larger extent than females. |
| 18:23.24 | neenee | The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain Simon Baron-Cohen Allen Lane, £16.99, pp 263 ISBN 0 713 99671 4 |
| 18:23.31 | Fin | huh, well, I guess I'll just take it on face value that you're not just lying your little face off :) |
| 18:23.36 | SunTsu | Anway, gtg |
| 18:23.51 | thul | Fin: well, if I were to go to school, lock myself into the library and remember all the titles |
| 18:23.57 | thul | beacause you want me to.. |
| 18:23.59 | thul | well :-P |
| 18:23.59 | thul | neh |
| 18:24.29 | Fin | it's just that after reading so much about this, I thought you might remember a few of the places you er were reading |
| 18:24.32 | kergoth | yep, i never claimed otherwise, that's definately true. i just see a lot of guys supressing their emotions and lashing out when they come to the surface, or acting irrationally due to failing to understand the root of their feelings. more so than women, anyway. |
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| 18:24.46 | Fin | you're obviously very interested in the subject! |
| 18:24.48 | thul | Fin: well, my applied pshycology book (which cites quite a few sources) |
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| 18:25.18 | thul | I read 3 different articles on law today, they cited somewhere between 4-40 sources each |
| 18:25.19 | Fin | ohhh |
| 18:25.29 | thul | I don't go around remembering those sources :-) |
| 18:25.52 | neenee | I just quoted the source of one of the lines he just put in here. |
| 18:25.54 | thul | just as I don't remember any of Richard Dawkins' sources if you ask me about sources in the blind watchmaker. |
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| 18:25.57 | vithos | it's kind of like how you can have a valid argument with false assumptions. everything we think we know, we only assume, and because of that, even if we are reasoning like "thinking machines", the results are only as good as what we started with |
| 18:25.58 | neenee | Just google and you'll find |
| 18:26.09 | Fin | so you meant, when you said you'd read most of the relevant studies, that you'd read them by proxy, I see |
| 18:26.16 | Fin | fair enough |
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| 18:27.04 | thul | well, I have read quite a few of the papers that are cited in the books, 2 years ago, but still, I do not go around remembering much about titles and names.. :-) |
| 18:27.12 | thul | the books i read each day (which cite the sources) stick. |
| 18:27.13 | thul | not much else. |
| 18:27.30 | ckknight | Zhinjio: pong |
| 18:27.46 | Fin | no I'm quite sure you said you'd read most the relevant sources on the subject as well as the intros to all the rest |
| 18:28.03 | thul | mhm. |
| 18:28.12 | thul | as I'm quite sure I have, during 2 semesters 2 years ago :-) |
| 18:28.20 | Fin | ah, well, that must be it, then |
| 18:28.32 | Fin | excellent! |
| 18:28.37 | thul | well, you can troll some more, you can believe I'm lying or you can believe me :-) |
| 18:28.37 | Fin | I'm glad you cleared that up for me |
| 18:28.38 | Fin | thanks |
| 18:28.44 | Fin | OK |
| 18:28.51 | thul | your trolling is bit under par though. |
| 18:28.55 | Fin | so is yours |
| 18:28.57 | thul | you have a lot to learn :-) |
| 18:28.57 | thul | haha |
| 18:28.58 | thul | neh |
| 18:29.00 | thul | you bit. |
| 18:29.15 | Zhinjio | ckknight: hey.... quick question regarding LibRockComm... |
| 18:29.16 | thul | and you bit deep.. ;-) |
| 18:29.24 | thul | even after my very un-subtle hint.. |
| 18:29.26 | Fin | did I? oh golly |
| 18:29.28 | ckknight | k? |
| 18:29.31 | thul | yes, you did.. :-) |
| 18:29.41 | thul | you should be.. :-) |
| 18:29.43 | Zhinjio | is there some efficiency to be gained in sending structures that are limited in size? For example, less than 256 bytes? |
| 18:29.52 | thul | this is the normal reaction :-) |
| 18:29.54 | thul | keep overplaying some more. |
| 18:29.59 | Fin | OK |
| 18:30.00 | thul | I'll leave you be for now young one |
| 18:30.02 | Zhinjio | or does all the serialization/deserialization not really care at al |
| 18:30.04 | Zhinjio | all |
| 18:30.04 | thul | lick your sores, come back later :-) |
| 18:30.10 | Fin | OK |
| 18:32.24 | ckknight | Zhinjio: not really |
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| 18:33.38 | Zhinjio | I'm making pretty heavy use of comms in my addon... and my general messages are all tokenized and have payloads that don't exceed 256 characters |
| 18:34.43 | Zhinjio | how about between sending just a straight up string vs a structure/list/table? |
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| 18:35.05 | Zhinjio | does it have to do less work int he de/reserialization? |
| 18:35.11 | Zhinjio | does it even check? |
| 18:35.15 | Fin | hey Elli, thanks for your help earlier with the tip about Veiled Noble Topazs Topazes? Topaz'?) |
| 18:35.46 | RaydenUni | should i use rake when in a dungeon? |
| 18:35.55 | Fin | I've learned enough myself now to know that you were totally right |
| 18:36.05 | ckknight | Zhinjio: it's almost always better to just send a table if you have it |
| 18:36.05 | Fin | Ellipsis: I have more questions now though! :) do you mind? |
| 18:36.17 | Zhinjio | oh really? wow. hmm. ok. |
| 18:36.30 | Fin | I can go look it up, it's just nicer asking real people |
| 18:36.41 | Ellipsis | Fin: go for it |
| 18:36.44 | Fin | +easier for the lazy |
| 18:38.04 | Fin | sec, the question is about craftables |
| 18:38.12 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 18:38.17 | Fin | just finding my profile on the armory so I can check what I still need |
| 18:38.43 | Fin | You have encountered an error. |
| 18:38.44 | Fin | huh |
| 18:39.29 | Ellipsis | you broke it! |
| 18:39.44 | Sais | Kill it! |
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| 18:40.10 | Fin | OK, well, what I've already got is the Frozen Shadoweave set, the Battlecast set, and a Belt of Blasting (which incidentally gives me the horn) - is there any other gear that's relatively easy to get, or can be crafted, that I could get? |
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| 18:40.40 | Ellipsis | Fin: hmm...for pve, you'll probably want spellstrike over battlecast |
| 18:40.47 | Ellipsis | but it is quite expensive |
| 18:40.55 | Zhinjio | thats interesting. |
| 18:40.55 | Zhinjio | actually, if thats true.... I can save myself some parsing code. |
| 18:40.55 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 18:40.55 | Zhinjio | ok, thanks alot. |
| 18:40.56 | Zhinjio | I'm getting weird lag. |
| 18:41.06 | Fin | (btw, I don't think gear makes me a good player, I just like to get the best I can for my characters!) |
| 18:41.12 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio's connection fails like ours, sweet |
| 18:41.31 | Fin | OK... I went for the Battlecast because of all the stamina |
| 18:42.00 | Ellipsis | battlecast is quite nice for the price, but it is more stat-heavy and most people consider it to be a pvp-oriented set |
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| 18:42.04 | Fin | I shall get myself the Spellstrike set made then :) |
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| 18:42.35 | Ellipsis | the other "easy" stuff would be badge rewards and early kara gear |
| 18:42.38 | mykx | yeah spellstrike is a lot better for general pve |
| 18:42.50 | Fin | is there any sort of crafted cloak? |
| 18:43.03 | mykx | nope |
| 18:43.05 | Fin | most other characters I've levelled have had an epic cloak of some sort made for them |
| 18:43.06 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:43.09 | Fin | huh, OK |
| 18:43.18 | Ellipsis | there are no good cloaks for warlocks |
| 18:43.32 | Fin | oh? bums |
| 18:43.36 | Ellipsis | the first decent one is off prince |
| 18:43.45 | Fin | no badge cloak? |
| 18:43.53 | mykx | nethervoid cloak imo |
| 18:43.53 | Fin | I mean, a cloak I can get with badges of justice? |
| 18:43.54 | Ellipsis | badge cloak is very mage-ish |
| 18:44.00 | Fin | what does that mean? |
| 18:44.01 | durcyn | the badge cloak is marginally useful for destruction |
| 18:44.10 | durcyn | but warlock cloaks blow until black temple |
| 18:44.21 | Ellipsis | yeah, there is a nice one in BT |
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| 18:44.51 | Fin | be a while until I get to see BT unfortunately, I need to join another guild for that, which I don't want to do until I have a new job and settled in :) |
| 18:45.02 | Fin | otherwise I won't be able to commit to anything for the guild |
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| 18:45.34 | Ellipsis | then get used to your sethekk oracle cloak |
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| 18:45.39 | Fin | heh |
| 18:45.39 | Ellipsis | because you'll be wearing it for a long while :) |
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| 18:46.16 | Ellipsis | if you're running kara you might be able to pick up the cloak off moroes or prince though, which are upgrades at least |
| 18:46.26 | Fin | I should be soon |
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| 18:46.49 | mykx | kara feels more like a task than a raid :\ |
| 18:46.59 | RaydenUni | for what class? |
| 18:47.08 | RaydenUni | moroes cloak is very sweet for spriests |
| 18:47.08 | Zhinjio | is there a limit to the size of a list element in a saved variable? |
| 18:47.13 | Ellipsis | lock |
| 18:47.13 | RaydenUni | shadow cloak of dalaran |
| 18:47.24 | Fin | I think I have Baba's Cloak of Arcanistry atm |
| 18:47.28 | mykx | there's a decent cloak from maulgar also |
| 18:47.32 | mykx | if you pug that shit |
| 18:47.35 | Ellipsis | that one's decent as well |
| 18:47.46 | Ellipsis | Fin: any other questions? gonna have to go in a few |
| 18:47.58 | Fin | Ellipsis: that's it for now, thanks :) |
| 18:48.01 | RaydenUni | where? |
| 18:48.06 | Ellipsis | alrighty |
| 18:48.08 | Fin | and thanks everyone else for the info! :) |
| 18:48.19 | Fin | ooh, spell hit on Sethekk Oracle's Cloak |
| 18:48.25 | Fin | want |
| 18:48.40 | mykx | mm yeah have fun gearing your warlock, 202 spell hit ftl |
| 18:48.43 | Fin | oh! I did have one :) |
| 18:49.03 | RaydenUni | 77 spell hit for priests, woot! |
| 18:49.03 | Fin | are there any decent references to know about other than the obvious like WoWWiki? |
| 18:49.06 | Fin | +for warlocks |
| 18:49.28 | Fin | I only have about +90 spell hit atm |
| 18:49.30 | Ellipsis | warlock forums are pretty good |
| 18:49.34 | mykx | For what purpose.. gear? rotation or what |
| 18:49.35 | Ellipsis | I saw something recently....bah |
| 18:49.41 | Ellipsis | I'll see if I can find the link for you later |
| 18:49.44 | Fin | kk, thanks |
| 18:49.47 | RaydenUni | fin references for what? |
| 18:50.01 | Fin | just general warlock things |
| 18:50.09 | Fin | like, for warriors, I know a few sites that have tanking info |
| 18:50.37 | Fin | and for priests I would definitely recommend the forums and a few threads in particular, plus some of the macro pages specifically on WoWWiki |
| 18:50.39 | RaydenUni | no idea |
| 18:50.44 | Fin | kk |
| 18:50.45 | RaydenUni | www.shadowpriest.com :) |
| 18:51.02 | Ellipsis | the usual places Fin, EJ has a raiding warlock thread, and the warlock forums have some good threads as well |
| 18:51.03 | Fin | aw, hey, didn't know about that |
| 18:51.04 | Grum | macros for what fin? shackling? |
| 18:51.04 | Fin | thanks :) |
| 18:51.33 | Fin | Grum: shackling, shadow fiend, casting |
| 18:51.43 | Fin | EJ! didn't think of that, I haven't been back there for a while |
| 18:51.43 | Grum | shadowfiend macro? O.o |
| 18:52.06 | RaydenUni | shackling and MC is what i use macros for |
| 18:52.07 | mykx | some of the information on the EJ warlock thread is wrong but just take what you can from it and use your own judgement and you should be fine |
| 18:52.13 | Grum | casting macro? that doesnt really work well with dots in the picture as any sequence will not 'fix' failed-to-apply-dots |
| 18:52.17 | RaydenUni | yeah what do you put in a shadowfiend macro? |
| 18:52.22 | Grum | lol |
| 18:52.24 | dylanm | There is a "warlocks den" site of some sort. |
| 18:52.30 | Grum | shadowfiend is just 'cast' :P |
| 18:52.31 | Fin | que? |
| 18:52.51 | Fin | "shackling", "shadow fiend", and "casting" were seperate items, as demarked by the commas :() |
| 18:52.54 | Fin | -( |
| 18:53.12 | Fin | and, what if you want to put it on defensive or aggressive automatically, Grum? |
| 18:53.43 | Grum | why would you? |
| 18:53.43 | mykx | Think about that for a second Fin, it lasts for a short duration |
| 18:53.43 | Grum | spawn means attack ASAP |
| 18:53.45 | mykx | you wouldn't want it not giving you mana |
| 18:53.49 | Grum | you only have 15s for it to live O.o |
| 18:53.57 | RaydenUni | gogogo! |
| 18:54.00 | Fin | or have it attack your focus instead of your target? |
| 18:54.06 | Fin | er, yeah, I have thought about it mykx |
| 18:54.07 | Grum | why would you do that? |
| 18:54.17 | RaydenUni | not really sure |
| 18:54.23 | Grum | same here |
| 18:54.26 | RaydenUni | since you want the shadowfiend to attack whatever has shadowweaving on it |
| 18:54.30 | RaydenUni | cause it gets all those bonuses |
| 18:54.32 | Grum | shadowpriests are *always* on the boss |
| 18:54.38 | Fin | OK, you might want it on defensive so it doesn't attack any CCed mobs, and you might want it to attack your focus for the same reason |
| 18:54.43 | Grum | lol why? |
| 18:54.47 | Grum | you dont attack cc'd mobs |
| 18:54.50 | RaydenUni | you would be targetting CC? |
| 18:54.56 | Grum | so your fiend also doesnt O.o |
| 18:55.02 | Fin | because you're the one CCing it? |
| 18:55.08 | RaydenUni | that's what the macro is for |
| 18:55.16 | Fin | what macro? |
| 18:55.16 | Grum | you have a focus macro for that O.o |
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| 18:55.17 | mykx | it doesnt do any AOE and.. you wouldn't exactly be OOM on trash so yeah that makes no sense |
| 18:55.28 | RaydenUni | shackle focus |
| 18:55.42 | Grum | shackle focus is the only 'useful' macro |
| 18:55.43 | RaydenUni | yeah you only use shadowfiend on bosses really |
| 18:55.46 | Fin | sorry, but focus macros are great in situations where you can prepare for it, but most of the time I use my shadowfiend is in situations where things have got a bit out of control and I need mana quick |
| 18:55.47 | RaydenUni | also MC focus |
| 18:55.49 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 18:55.50 | Grum | and possible a 'shield self' macro |
| 18:55.55 | Fin | it's the only useful macro for *you* |
| 18:55.56 | Grum | yeah that as well RaydenUni |
| 18:56.12 | mykx | focus banishes, fears and shit are great but not shadowfiends :p |
| 18:56.36 | Fin | if you say so! :) |
| 18:56.44 | Grum | O.o |
| 18:56.45 | RaydenUni | greatest macro |
| 18:56.52 | RaydenUni | sunder + raid icon skull |
| 18:57.05 | RaydenUni | or whatever other spell you only use on the dps target |
| 18:57.33 | Fin | and, I use a casting macro for greater heal + flash heal so I can have a cast happening constantly without having to /stopcasting (so I only have to use one keybinding to /stopcasting and start the heal again) |
| 18:57.37 | Fin | if you know what I mean |
| 18:58.33 | Fisker- | GO LADY VASHJ TIEM |
| 18:58.39 | Fin | I use ctrl+click for greater heal, so when I'm tank healing I can just sit there going ctrl+click, wait until the end of the cast, ctrl+click again just before the end if it's not needed, or let it finish |
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| 18:59.08 | Fin | </explanations> |
| 18:59.39 | RaydenUni | our tank went afk so we are letting the rogue pull then vanish |
| 18:59.53 | dylanm | Awesome. |
| 18:59.55 | Fin | oh, yeah, that was another thing I was wondering about for warlocks (which I guess I'll find out on EJ somewhere) - what the best order is to apply dots |
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| 19:01.00 | Ozguli | cast time dot instantinstantinstant |
| 19:01.04 | dylanm | I can't imagine that it matters all that much. |
| 19:01.21 | mykx | you get more dps out of not messing up your GCDs |
| 19:01.24 | Ozguli | on my spriest I first apply vamp. embrace touch because it returns mana |
| 19:01.27 | dylanm | Beyond what Ozguli said... but after that you're just refreshing whenever you can. |
| 19:01.36 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r59608 10oRA3/modules/Durability.lua: oRA3: tweak and todo |
| 19:01.38 | Fin | well, like, with curse of agony the damage is increased for each tick over time |
| 19:01.41 | Fin | so the aggro builds more slowly |
| 19:01.43 | dylanm | s/you can/you have to/ |
| 19:01.50 | RaydenUni | stupid |
| 19:01.58 | Fisker- | bridge was cool :O |
| 19:01.59 | RaydenUni | i went out of stealth during the fight even though i didn't do anything |
| 19:02.12 | Fin | and they have different timeouts, so, I'd like to know if possible if there's a way to coordinate them |
| 19:02.18 | Fin | +s |
| 19:02.21 | mykx | ok first of all curse of doom will always do more damage than curse of agony asuming it can run its full course |
| 19:02.34 | Arrowmaster | dot order has a very very large effect on dps |
| 19:02.34 | dylanm | Yeah doom is what you want on a boss fight for sure. |
| 19:02.44 | Fin | thank you, Arrowmaster! :) |
| 19:03.13 | Antiarc | auuuuuuuugh family tech support hell. |
| 19:03.38 | RaydenUni | any reason to ever use rip? |
| 19:03.52 | Fin | immolate + incinerate is awesome |
| 19:04.04 | Fin | I think I want to try a destruction crit build |
| 19:04.15 | Fin | I want big numbers that get me killed because I'm pulling aggro all the time! |
| 19:04.28 | RaydenUni | be a shadowpriest then |
| 19:04.30 | Arrowmaster | 0/21/40 shadow builds are the best |
| 19:04.34 | RaydenUni | the big numbers are only threat though |
| 19:04.37 | Fin | I've got a priest, Rayden |
| 19:04.46 | RaydenUni | i have way more aggro than any other dps always |
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| 19:05.14 | [Ammo] | hmm I usually open with Unstable Affliction and since I'm malediction no CoA for me, after UA, Corruption and siphon |
| 19:05.15 | Fin | Mind Blast is what, 4x aggro or something? |
| 19:05.17 | mykx | 0/21/40 is the best but only if you have the gear to support it lol |
| 19:05.17 | [Ammo] | after that burn whatever |
| 19:05.20 | thul | blowdryers are irrational |
| 19:05.23 | thul | :-( |
| 19:05.24 | RaydenUni | nah |
| 19:05.30 | RaydenUni | mind blist isn't as much threat as it used to be |
| 19:05.32 | dylanm | I guess the one thing you'd want to ensure if you're theorycrafting is that you wouldn't have to refresh a bunch of things at once. |
| 19:05.34 | RaydenUni | but even without mind blast |
| 19:05.36 | dylanm | It's still pretty big. |
| 19:05.54 | RaydenUni | it's gotta be VT |
| 19:06.08 | Fin | really? I didn't know that |
| 19:06.32 | [Ammo] | VT is huge aggro compared to anything for SP |
| 19:06.41 | [Ammo] | because you gain threat for the gains others get |
| 19:06.44 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 19:06.50 | TNSe | Mind Blast was changed to no aggro bonus in 2.0 |
| 19:07.27 | Fin | it still feels like it's 4x aggro :) |
| 19:07.32 | dylanm | Starting around here http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17008-warlock_pve_raiding_compendium/p46/#post611900 seems to be good |
| 19:07.41 | Fin | I'm a shitty shadow priest, I will happily admit that |
| 19:08.09 | RaydenUni | ~850dps vs Dr Doom the other day on my spriest. i'm pleased |
| 19:08.10 | dylanm | and recent, more importantly. |
| 19:08.22 | RaydenUni | Prior to Patch 2.0, it caused 100% extra threat, reducing its PvE viability. |
| 19:08.24 | TNSe | hard to test spriest dps against drdoom since you can't mind flay :P |
| 19:08.30 | Fin | I only ever respec for PvP really, it's so much fun using SW:D so I can steal everyone's killing blows in BGs and suicide to stop the other side getting one off me |
| 19:08.49 | RaydenUni | TNSe yes you can |
| 19:08.51 | dylanm | And to get out of poly :> |
| 19:08.53 | RaydenUni | there is a barrel you can stand out |
| 19:09.11 | TNSe | lol |
| 19:09.16 | dylanm | SW:D is like my favorite spell pretty much. There are so many neat uses for it. |
| 19:09.17 | Fin | que |
| 19:09.18 | TNSe | and his bombs wont touch you? |
| 19:09.40 | Fin | I always tell shadow priests who group with me that they're welcome to use it during a fight even if the mob is nowhere near dying |
| 19:09.56 | Fin | as far as I can tell (without checking), it's the most mana efficient damage spell priests have? |
| 19:10.13 | dylanm | I use it constantly, but I could be crap so who knows. It's not like I can't heal it back quickly. |
| 19:10.16 | Fin | I mean, damage per point of mana, I think (without bonuses and stuff) |
| 19:10.25 | dylanm | I thought Flay still held that title? |
| 19:11.19 | dylanm | Of course, thinking without bonuses is kinda useless. |
| 19:11.46 | RaydenUni | dylanm like using it vs curator |
| 19:11.59 | Fin | I wouldn't disagree |
| 19:12.05 | RaydenUni | dylanm for raids you use SWD all the time |
| 19:12.09 | RaydenUni | whenever it's up |
| 19:12.19 | dylanm | That's what I do! |
| 19:12.24 | RaydenUni | i think VT is probably the most mana efficient |
| 19:12.28 | RaydenUni | it's not even worht discussing |
| 19:12.32 | RaydenUni | for raids, use SWD |
| 19:12.34 | mykx | I see a lot of spriests that dont use mb/swd when they are up and wonder why they do poop dps |
| 19:12.34 | Fin | double negatives ftw! |
| 19:12.36 | Fin | I mean, double negatives not for the loss! |
| 19:12.40 | RaydenUni | it's NOT for getting killing blows |
| 19:12.48 | Fin | is too! |
| 19:13.05 | Fin | and suiciding to stop being a source of honour! |
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| 19:13.31 | RaydenUni | that's not it's main purpose |
| 19:13.33 | RaydenUni | not for raids |
| 19:13.36 | Fin | and, hey, who said anything about stuff being worth discussing? this is IRC I'll have you know |
| 19:13.47 | Gourra | hey |
| 19:13.50 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Oh it's good for that though. SW:D on some random trash combined with spirit tap can help out your mana situation. |
| 19:13.54 | Gourra | I have some problems with IceHud |
| 19:14.00 | Fin | no... I... I don't think they have honour in PvE raids... |
| 19:14.05 | Primer | Anyone have an opinion regarding which alchemy specialization is best for making money? |
| 19:14.20 | Gourra | I'm trying to tell the number of my pet's focus but it won't work..it's using the mana of me instead |
| 19:14.21 | Fin | elixirs |
| 19:14.25 | Gourra | how do I do to solve it? |
| 19:14.32 | mykx | does your server have a lot of raiders? if so make potions/flasks |
| 19:14.51 | Primer | yes, lots of people on end-game content |
| 19:14.52 | Fin | Primer: potion mastery will make you money as well, but Elixirs will make you more |
| 19:14.57 | Fin | -shift |
| 19:15.16 | Primer | strange, because I figured transmute would be more profitable |
| 19:15.26 | Fin | transmute mastery has the *potential* for making more money, but it's not reliable (and was bugged before the last patch) |
| 19:15.29 | dylanm | That was the case... not so sure now. |
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| 19:16.36 | Fin | I can easily make more than 100g a day profit with Elixir mastery, with transmute mastery you'll have a lot of days without any profit, and a few days with 100g or so profit, and a very few days with more |
| 19:16.48 | Fin | -shift, godammit! |
| 19:16.55 | Fin | why do I keep capitalising Elixirs |
| 19:16.59 | RaydenUni | druid water form shouldn't dispel when you jump out of the water |
| 19:18.26 | Primer | Fin: so you buy the mats or are you herbs too? |
| 19:18.46 | Fin | I have another question, not specifically about locks, but: does anyone know of any relatively-easy-to-get blues with +spell hit on them (aside from Sethekk Oracle's Cloak which Elli just told me about :) |
| 19:18.50 | Fin | Primer: I buy |
| 19:18.58 | Fin | buy mats on the weekend, sell the elixirs during the week |
| 19:19.00 | Primer | Fin: and which elixir has the best mats price to sell ratio? |
| 19:19.09 | Primer | if you don't mind me asking :) |
| 19:19.30 | Fin | prices fluctuate, but good ones are Elixir of Major Fortitude, Elixir of Major Agility, and Flask of Restoration |
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| 19:19.34 | Fin | is it Restoration? |
| 19:19.38 | Fin | fuck I forget, the +25 mp5 one |
| 19:19.48 | Primer | major mageblood? |
| 19:19.51 | Fin | (flasks count as elixirs when it comes to masteries btw) |
| 19:19.54 | Fin | no, the flask |
| 19:20.00 | Primer | oh, right |
| 19:20.15 | Fin | I sell them for 39g BO on my server, but, prices are always going to be different |
| 19:20.19 | Primer | most of those are from world drop formulas too |
| 19:20.41 | Primer | thanks for the advice |
| 19:20.54 | Fin | I also sell Adept's Elixirs, Elixir of Healing Power, and occasionally Shadow Power (major and normal) |
| 19:20.57 | Fin | but they're not the best sellers |
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| 19:21.10 | Fin | are they? hmm |
| 19:21.19 | Primer | I'll have to check |
| 19:21.42 | Fin | I think they're all trainable |
| 19:21.48 | Primer | how many times did you have to run BM to get the 10 Essence of Infinity? |
| 19:21.57 | Primer | seems that would be a pain, as no one likes running BM |
| 19:22.00 | Fin | er, twice, but only cos I fucked up first time |
| 19:22.43 | Fin | also btw, if you do go transmute mastery, (and you probably already know this, but) make sure to pick another mastery first and just pay the 150g to respec |
| 19:23.01 | Fin | (cheaper than 4x Primal Might) |
| 19:23.15 | dylanm | Fin: http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=3;minrl=70;cr=48:93;crs=1:2;crv=0:0 ehhh? |
| 19:23.25 | Primer | so they don't make you do the quest to switch specs? hehe |
| 19:23.30 | Primer | good tip, thanks |
| 19:23.53 | Fin | dylanm: thank you kindly :) I actually was about to go search wowhead - I asked because (like I said :) it's always nicer to ask real people - I do appreciate the link though |
| 19:24.25 | kergoth | wow-item.info is kinda growing on me |
| 19:24.30 | dylanm | Fin: Oh I was just trying to refresh my memory on the blues I really liked but when I saw that the list was so short.... |
| 19:24.32 | kergoth | i like that it can sort by item scoring systems like aep |
| 19:25.08 | Fin | dylanm: huh, that *is* quite a short list :/ |
| 19:25.27 | Fin | ooh good, I was planning to go for the Continuum blade too |
| 19:25.38 | dylanm | Probably should've restricted it to cloth now that I think about it |
| 19:25.43 | Fin | +until now |
| 19:25.53 | dylanm | Well, no. There's only one mail thingy. |
| 19:25.57 | Fin | dylanm: oh, I thought it was at first :) |
| 19:26.07 | Fin | shit |
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| 19:26.15 | RaydenUni | any particular reason why it woudl be bad for dungeons to only drop stuff partymembers can use? |
| 19:26.22 | RaydenUni | like don't drop mail if no shaman or hunter? |
| 19:26.26 | Fin | I guess +spell hit isn't so important for elemental shamans and boomkins etc. |
| 19:26.51 | Fin | well, I'd have a much smaller collection of large prismatics |
| 19:27.04 | Fin | if that were the case |
| 19:27.51 | RaydenUni | what if it was only for <70 |
| 19:27.52 | dylanm | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=3;minrl=70;ub=9;cr=48:93;crs=1:2;crv=0:0 is what you want. Didn't notice the warlock filter. That's really ace. |
| 19:28.17 | Fin | looks like Continuum Blade's definitely the one to go for for me then, that's nice |
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| 19:28.43 | RaydenUni | where do you get continuum? |
| 19:28.51 | Fin | Revered with Sands of Time |
| 19:28.58 | Fin | just a few Black Morass runs |
| 19:29.14 | Fin | dylanm: what warlock filter? |
| 19:29.16 | dylanm | Which is easier said than done in some sense. |
| 19:29.30 | Fin | not for me! I get invites all the time it seems :) |
| 19:29.49 | Fin | it's quite fun having to do the adds as well |
| 19:29.51 | dylanm | Fin: I was looking for ways to explicitly shut out leather and mail but there's a "Usable by" filter. |
| 19:29.58 | Fin | I have to think a lot harder than normal as a lock :) |
| 19:30.04 | Fin | dylanm: ah |
| 19:30.27 | dylanm | If you could do arbitrary boolean combinations of these things that'd be awesome at times but wowhead is just so good anyway. |
| 19:31.38 | Fin | I'd love to chat to their developer |
| 19:32.25 | dylanm | I wonder if I'd like a high-level warlock. I don't know if it would be super-similar to my spriesting or what. |
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| 19:32.42 | dylanm | It's cool that there are three asskicking specs. |
| 19:32.45 | Fin | in my opinion, it's totally different |
| 19:33.08 | Fin | I've levelled as Shadow and respec to Shadow for PvP, but that's it, though |
| 19:33.22 | Fin | and I have yet to try out more specs as a lock |
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| 19:33.30 | Fin | but just having a pet makes it a different way of playing |
| 19:33.47 | dylanm | Shadowfiend :S |
| 19:33.48 | Fin | er, that wasn't Englisch, but you know what I mean |
| 19:33.55 | Fin | pff |
| 19:34.27 | NeoTron | dylanm: lock != spriest |
| 19:34.36 | NeoTron | only similarily is shadow damage really |
| 19:34.38 | dylanm | NeoTron: I know that. |
| 19:34.40 | Fin | ITYM ~=, HTH |
| 19:34.58 | dylanm | It's... I mean it's a DoT dance. |
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| 19:35.25 | Fin | huh, only one blue offhand with +spell hit |
| 19:35.29 | Fin | bottom burps united |
| 19:35.40 | Fin | hope I don't have to farm too long for it |
| 19:35.49 | Ellipsis | BM or arc offhands are good |
| 19:35.52 | RaydenUni | shadowfiend isn't a pet! |
| 19:35.53 | Ellipsis | til you get the badge reward one |
| 19:36.04 | Fin | yo Elli |
| 19:36.15 | Fin | BM offhand? |
| 19:36.22 | Ellipsis | lamp of peaceful radiance I believe? |
| 19:36.28 | Fin | that's the Arca one, yep |
| 19:36.33 | dylanm | That badge offhand (can't remember the name) is fantastic. |
| 19:36.34 | Ellipsis | oh, then star-heart |
| 19:36.57 | Fin | I was just saying before you came back, I was planning to get the Continuum Blade anyway :) |
| 19:37.01 | RaydenUni | badge offhand for whom? |
| 19:37.05 | RaydenUni | orb of the soul eater? |
| 19:37.16 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath raydenuni |
| 19:37.20 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/46). 8251 HP; 8445 Mana; 161 mana regen; 48 mp5; 50 spell crit; 92 spell hit; 799 +spell dmg; 831 +heal; 179 frost dmg (978); 281 shadow dmg (1080); 5.62% dodge; 18 resilience; 45 shadow resist; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 1532 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Mon Jan 28 14:45:55 2008 EST ]] |
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| 19:37.44 | Primer | !c us gorgonnash barfolomeu |
| 19:37.47 | ThraeBot | Primer: Barfolomeu, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/7/11). 9890 HP; 7825 Mana; 113 mana regen; 180 spell crit; 51 spell hit; 862 +spell dmg; 129 frost dmg (991); 180 shadow dmg (1042); 4.59% dodge; 193 resilience;[[ TBR: 1663 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ystwxp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6m5o ][ Updated: Mon Jan 28 14:46:22 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:38.06 | dylanm | Ellipsis is the lockmaster right? |
| 19:38.10 | Fin | 193 resilience - PvPer eh |
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| 19:38.25 | Primer | heh, I must have logged wearing my riding gear |
| 19:38.27 | Fin | dylanm: she's the one I've been abusing for lock advice :) |
| 19:38.41 | Primer | Fin: heh, I have more than that :) |
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| 19:38.56 | Fin | Primer: I'm sure you do in your PvP gear! |
| 19:39.00 | Fin | everyone seems to these days |
| 19:39.05 | Primer | pvp is fun |
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| 19:39.14 | Fin | I have only ever done enough PvP to get one item for honour |
| 19:39.17 | Fin | wait! two now! |
| 19:39.18 | Fin | woo |
| 19:39.20 | RaydenUni | ellipsis you missed our gender discussion the other day |
| 19:39.21 | Primer | I can't imagine playing, especially on a pvp realm, and not knowing/doing pvp |
| 19:39.27 | Primer | but, there are people like that |
| 19:39.27 | Ellipsis` | RaydenUni: I did? |
| 19:39.31 | RaydenUni | i got the S1 caster mace from bg |
| 19:39.33 | RaydenUni | you did |
| 19:39.38 | ckknight_ | gender discussion? |
| 19:39.38 | Ellipsis` | hmkay |
| 19:39.42 | RaydenUni | talking about "racials" based on gender |
| 19:39.43 | Fin | Primer: <-- |
| 19:39.49 | RaydenUni | was a question i had on a midterm essay |
| 19:39.55 | Ellipsis` | hm |
| 19:39.58 | Primer | I had a guildy, a 70 druid, helping my 68 holy priest with some quests...we were jumped by a 70 mage, and he owned us |
| 19:40.16 | Primer | and so I asked her (female, IRL) "You don't pvp much, do you?" |
| 19:40.16 | RaydenUni | tale in the desert used to have +weaving for women and +mining for men |
| 19:40.30 | Primer | RaydenUni: how sexist |
| 19:40.58 | Primer | the funniest thing I ever did in PVP was kill a 67 rogue...as a 66 holy priest :) |
| 19:41.02 | Fin | (incidentally! wanted to say but forgot, not relevant now but I don't care: healing in a group with two shadow priests is AWESOME, not just as a healer) |
| 19:41.50 | Primer | best pvp was killing a fully buffed, fully healthy 68 mage using my 62 warlock, AFTER he attacked me first |
| 19:41.54 | Fin | Primer: I don't get it - was that the punchline? |
| 19:41.57 | Primer | in hellfire |
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| 19:42.19 | Primer | Fin: I was also wearing my healing set |
| 19:42.23 | Fin | oh, heh |
| 19:42.35 | Fin | haha sorry |
| 19:42.37 | dylanm | The punchline is... nerf Ellipsis. |
| 19:42.58 | Fin | I don't really |
| 19:43.02 | RaydenUni | ellipsis we also had a discussion about ellipses |
| 19:43.19 | Fin | epileptic ellipses eloping |
| 19:44.44 | Fin | elated epileptic ellipses eloping to el salvador |
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| 20:01.45 | kneeki | Hmm, is there a 'less spamming' way to Commit more than one addon at a time with Tortise SVN? I ask because I have 4 addons to update, and don't want to spam & so forth |
| 20:04.28 | Recluse | i suppose you could just commit one at a time and take a break between each of them? (if you're concerned with spamming) |
| 20:04.38 | dylanm | You know we get spam in here. It's fine. |
| 20:04.52 | Arrowmaster | if its just 1 commit to each addon just commit them |
| 20:04.53 | [Ammo] | just commit kneeki |
| 20:04.54 | Recluse | yeah, i don't personally care, but i'm a nobody around here :p |
| 20:05.02 | [Ammo] | if people can't handle the spam then let them leave |
| 20:05.26 | dylanm | I mean you can't be worse than thul. |
| 20:05.29 | kneeki | lol okay :) |
| 20:05.36 | kneeki | Was just making sure |
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| 20:05.48 | Elsia | heya |
| 20:05.50 | Arrowmaster | 1 addon per commit is actually in the svn rules, although that rule doesnt apply to people that know what theyre doing |
| 20:06.01 | dylanm | (I'm kidding thul but that was the last volume of stuff that I just didn't want to read) |
| 20:06.25 | Elsia | anyone tested libgraph-2.0 yet? I get a weird error while trying to use it for recount |
| 20:06.36 | dylanm | Uh can you just plug that in? |
| 20:06.41 | dylanm | That doesn't seem like it would work. |
| 20:07.38 | Elsia | error i get from libgraph-2.0 http://ace.pastey.net/81394 |
| 20:07.38 | Arrowmaster | doesnt recount uses its own special graphlib |
| 20:07.42 | dylanm | Oh you're the one that fixed some things earlier. Kudos. |
| 20:08.16 | Elsia | maybe it does, I thought libgraph-2.0 was just libstubbed graph-1.0 which is recount's |
| 20:08.44 | neenee | hmm |
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| 20:08.52 | neenee | time to clean out backups.. starting with 2001 |
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| 20:09.22 | Elsia | I guess I |
| 20:09.36 | Elsia | I'll revert to graph-1.0 until I can figure out what libgraph-2.0 is about |
| 20:10.56 | neenee | Can someone please translate this for me: |
| 20:10.58 | neenee | i sin famn, håller honom hårt och kysser honom mjukt.. "Tills vi möts igen min älskade under stjärnhimmeln..." |
| 20:11.17 | neenee | I understand part, like stajarnhimmeln - starry sky |
| 20:11.26 | neenee | But not the complete thing |
| 20:14.23 | Fisker- | zomg vashj 54% |
| 20:15.05 | CIA-9 | 03zhinjio * r59609 10/branches/SKG/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:15.05 | CIA-9 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 20:15.05 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.05 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.05 | NightHawkAtWork | 54%? is that.. even possible? :P |
| 20:15.16 | kneeki | Is there a way to stop a spell from casting using <PostClick> or <PreClick> even? |
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| 20:15.48 | Fisker- | yeah NightHawkAtWork |
| 20:16.37 | Kaelten | weird I just got a bug report for OneVault3 |
| 20:16.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Fisker-: howso? At 70% she hits p2, and each generator takes off 5% health, so it seems like anything other than 50/55/60/65 in that phase is rather difficult :P |
| 20:17.34 | Fisker- | you can get 69% before she gets immunity |
| 20:19.09 | Stanzilla | Elsia: ask Xinhuan for LibGraph-2.0 problems |
| 20:19.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Fisker-: i suppose, although i guess it's a pretty academic difference. ;) |
| 20:19.48 | Fisker- | every % counts ;D |
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| 20:19.55 | NightHawkAtWork | indeed. |
| 20:19.55 | Elsia | stan: yeah will do, he doesn't seem to be listening right now though |
| 20:20.01 | NightHawkAtWork | p2's the real pita, though |
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| 20:20.19 | NeoTron | P2 is most of the fight |
| 20:20.57 | Fisker- | i know :O |
| 20:22.40 | NightHawkAtWork | i know. :( |
| 20:24.54 | dodga | gawd. last week we wiped like 2 hours on archimonde (after downing illidan first time in that id) without killing him |
| 20:25.05 | dodga | and today we cleared hyjal in less than two and a half hours.. |
| 20:25.34 | Estil | it's a pve talk! |
| 20:25.49 | dodga | Oh sorry, what was the topic? :p |
| 20:26.36 | NightHawkAtWork | dodga: your mom. |
| 20:27.08 | dodga | Cause your mom's already done? :P |
| 20:27.20 | NightHawkAtWork | Indeed. :p |
| 20:28.37 | Xinhuan | hello |
| 20:28.43 | NightHawkAtWork | greetings. |
| 20:29.11 | Xinhuan | whats up |
| 20:30.33 | Xinhuan | hey Elsia |
| 20:30.37 | Elsia | heya xin |
| 20:30.47 | Xinhuan | i see you got that |
| 20:30.48 | Xinhuan | ibGraph-2.0 cannot determine the folder it is located in because the path is too long and got truncated in the debugstack(1,1,0) function call |
| 20:30.50 | Xinhuan | error |
| 20:30.53 | Elsia | yeps |
| 20:31.01 | Xinhuan | the problem is this |
| 20:31.11 | Xinhuan | Graph is a library |
| 20:31.21 | Xinhuan | so it can operate standalone (as an LoD addon) |
| 20:31.26 | Xinhuan | or embedded correct? |
| 20:31.33 | Elsia | sure |
| 20:32.01 | Xinhuan | because Graph uses texture files (.tga stuff), graph then needs to know the path\filename\ etc to these textures |
| 20:32.09 | Xinhuan | so graph needs to know which folder it is located in |
| 20:32.19 | Xinhuan | the current (and same method as graph-1.0) |
| 20:32.26 | Xinhuan | is to use a debugstack(1, 0, 0) call |
| 20:32.33 | Xinhuan | is to use a debugstack(1, 1, 0) call i mean |
| 20:33.06 | Xinhuan | since the error occured on LibGraph-2.0.lua: line 26 |
| 20:33.31 | Xinhuan | can you go to line 26 |
| 20:33.37 | Xinhuan | and add something just before line 26 |
| 20:33.52 | Xinhuan | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugstack(1,1,0)) |
| 20:33.59 | Elsia | here's a question: Why not place libgraph-2.0.lua one level down in the tree?^ |
| 20:34.01 | Xinhuan | so that you know what line 22 is trying to do |
| 20:34.08 | Xinhuan | you can elsia |
| 20:34.12 | Zhinjio | 23 seconds latency. Fine, fine, fine. |
| 20:34.21 | Xinhuan | you can set the externals such that it uses "G" |
| 20:34.24 | Xinhuan | as the folder name |
| 20:34.36 | Xinhuan | instead of Libs\LibGraph-2.0 |
| 20:34.48 | Zariel | Anonymous = Borg |
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| 20:35.21 | Elsia | will do the ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugstack(1,1,0)) in a bit, I reverted to graph-1.0 to be able to debug other stuff for now |
| 20:35.54 | Xinhuan | do you think you can to print out the thing just so we can see why the string.match() failed? |
| 20:36.02 | Arrowmaster | why doesnt libgraph-2.0 have a lib.xml? |
| 20:36.06 | Elsia | just in general I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have the lua file one level up, so people don't have to handle the double LibGraph-2.0/LibGraph-2.0 |
| 20:36.26 | Xinhuan | probably, let me look |
| 20:36.32 | Zariel | Whats the best way to creat an accurate timer ? |
| 20:36.45 | Xinhuan | is lib.xml standard now? |
| 20:36.47 | Elsia | well it'll take me a bit to make all the changes to LibGraph-2.0 agian |
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| 20:37.12 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: or just set the externals to only include one LibGraph-2.0 folder and not both |
| 20:37.32 | Xinhuan | the error didn't seem to occur in the embedded one |
| 20:37.50 | Elsia | alright gimme a few... gonna make all the changes again |
| 20:38.14 | Arrowmaster | actually why does LibGraph-2.0 even have 2x LibGraph-2.0 folders |
| 20:38.27 | Arrowmaster | non of the other Lib* librarys have double folders |
| 20:38.41 | Xinhuan | cos nargiddley commited it that way initially ;p |
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| 20:38.57 | Xinhuan | it used to be a 3 layered folder |
| 20:39.04 | Xinhuan | with a "textures" subfolder |
| 20:39.07 | Xinhuan | which has more subfolders |
| 20:39.18 | xyu | hmm WAU said "A new version is available, would you like to go to download page" and when it took me to sourceforge it said "No File Packages Defined, This project has not yet created any file release packages." |
| 20:39.39 | Arrowmaster | xyu: i didnt think WAU has hosted on sourceforge anymore |
| 20:39.50 | Chompers | what version xyu? |
| 20:39.51 | Arrowmaster | for like a long time |
| 20:40.02 | xyu | i have 1.9.42.491 |
| 20:40.06 | Chompers | 1.9.45.718 is latest |
| 20:40.11 | xyu | ok |
| 20:40.31 | Chompers | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 20:40.36 | xyu | thank you |
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| 20:41.33 | xyu | er i ran it and i got an error saying "The system cannot find the file specified" |
| 20:41.45 | Chompers | then download and install |
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| 20:44.27 | xyu | Any ace addons you guys consider essential for hunters? i'm in the process of leveling one. ^^ |
| 20:44.58 | Chompers | Quartz |
| 20:45.10 | vithos | Nudge |
| 20:45.12 | xyu | yeah got that one. definitely |
| 20:46.07 | vithos | although now that there's no deadzone Fudge would probably work |
| 20:46.59 | xyu | have you tried SEasyRotation? i dn't have steady shot yet but I imagine it just does the macro business for you? |
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| 20:48.20 | vithos | it's pretty good, but i only use it when i'm curious about something/theorycrafting |
| 20:48.55 | vithos | it doesn't have anything to do with macros, it's just a visualization of shot cooldowns and casts |
| 20:49.20 | xyu | My pitbull is still broken. I'm getting gray, opaque boxes where the frames should be. I can still tooltip over them, but there is no graphic |
| 20:49.23 | vithos | looks kind of like a multitrack editor (audio/video) software |
| 20:49.45 | Elsia | xin: I get ...ount\libs\libgraph-2.0\libgraph-2.0\libgraph.lua:22: in main chunk |
| 20:49.52 | xyu | and the blizzard frames are showing up >< |
| 20:50.00 | Xinhuan | ok elsia, can you show me how you are setting the externals? |
| 20:50.16 | Elsia | I can paste you how I set it, sec |
| 20:50.20 | Xinhuan | yes do that please |
| 20:50.38 | Stanzilla | "\libgraph-2.0\libgraph-2.0\" < seems a bit gay |
| 20:50.51 | Ellipsis | no u |
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| 20:50.56 | Xinhuan | a addon developer is only supposed to external the inside folder, not the outside one |
| 20:51.06 | xyu | I just looked and all my "Modules" in pitbull are disabled and I am unable to enable them. I check the box and the screen freezes for a very brief second but it doens't enable :( |
| 20:51.09 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: did you add the functionality that shortens rutes by using a radius of the nodes to cart_routes or just routes? |
| 20:51.12 | Xinhuan | so none of that TOC files and .xml and stuff gets externed |
| 20:51.17 | Xinhuan | just Routes NeoTron |
| 20:51.21 | NeoTron | ok |
| 20:51.26 | NeoTron | that explains why I can't find it :P |
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| 20:51.36 | NeoTron | I'll test it out tonight |
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| 20:52.01 | Chompers | Omen-2.1r55025\OmenMenu.lua:367: attempt to call method 'ResetTPS' (a nil value) |
| 20:52.03 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you should probably change it so theres only one LibGraph-2.0 folder and use a lib.xml too |
| 20:52.05 | Osstia | xyu: is it eroring out at all? Do you have something blobking your error messages? |
| 20:52.17 | xyu | I have bugsack buggrabber and nothing is showing up there. |
| 20:52.18 | Elsia | http://ace.pastey.net/81395 |
| 20:52.18 | xyu | No errors |
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| 20:52.43 | Xinhuan | ok see line 11? |
| 20:52.47 | Xinhuan | libs/LibGraph-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibGraph-2.0/ |
| 20:52.49 | Xinhuan | change that to |
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| 20:52.57 | Xinhuan | libs/LibGraph-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibGraph-2.0/LibGraph-2.0/ |
| 20:53.07 | Xinhuan | we only want the inside folder, not the outside one |
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| 20:53.36 | Arrowmaster | or you could do it like all the rest of the libs |
| 20:53.39 | Elsia | quick question: what else is using Graph-2.0 currently? |
| 20:53.48 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, using a lib.xml doesn't solve a damn thing |
| 20:53.56 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 20:53.57 | Xinhuan | the code in lua still needs to know the path |
| 20:54.01 | Xinhuan | to the TGA files |
| 20:54.07 | Arrowmaster | but having 2x folders is pointless |
| 20:54.11 | xyu | http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/26/wow2008012815533054sr4.jpg |
| 20:54.14 | xyu | that's a screenshot of what's happening |
| 20:54.15 | Elsia | yep, i'd vote for LibGraph-2.0.lua to be moved one level up, the second LibGraph-2.0 renamed to textures and the lua file adjusted for the change |
| 20:54.37 | Xinhuan | no elsia, the point is to have everything in 1 folder, not having to external 2 folders like in graph-1.0 |
| 20:54.41 | Xinhuan | a graph, and a texture folder |
| 20:54.52 | Amadeo | xyu: are you targetting me? Your tooltip says you are! |
| 20:55.02 | Elsia | why not put everything into the first level libgraph-2.0 then? |
| 20:55.03 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to external 2 folders |
| 20:55.06 | xyu | I am, you're in trouble. |
| 20:55.10 | Amadeo | :( |
| 20:55.23 | Xinhuan | because then the .TOC and libstub.xml files also get externaled if you move it up one level |
| 20:55.25 | xyu | that's me mousing over the pitbul frame. |
| 20:55.28 | Xinhuan | and they aren't used |
| 20:55.49 | Xinhuan | aren't used when embedded |
| 20:55.50 | Arrowmaster | and every other Lib* libaray does that too |
| 20:56.00 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt matter |
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| 20:56.03 | Ellipsis | xyu: did that just happen suddenly? |
| 20:56.07 | xyu | Yeah lastnight |
| 20:56.14 | xyu | I didn't even update it |
| 20:56.15 | Ellipsis | are you getting any errors? |
| 20:56.15 | xyu | just happened |
| 20:56.20 | Ellipsis | your bugsack shows 2 caught |
| 20:56.21 | xyu | Not with pitbul |
| 20:56.25 | sb_ | uhm |
| 20:56.31 | xyu | those 2 errors are TinyTIpExtras |
| 20:56.34 | Xinhuan | anyway, did changing the externals work Elsia? |
| 20:56.36 | xyu | and Pricetag-0.0.4 |
| 20:56.41 | sb_ | what are the recommended graphics settings for illidan p2 tanks? |
| 20:56.41 | Ellipsis | hm |
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| 20:56.59 | Ellipsis | xyu: are the modules disembedded? |
| 20:57.04 | xyu | yeah |
| 20:57.18 | Xinhuan | get rid of line 13 too |
| 20:57.22 | Ellipsis | are they enabled at the character screen? |
| 20:57.40 | CIA-9 | 03Octane666 * r59610 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 20:57.40 | CIA-9 | SpamMeNot: |
| 20:57.40 | CIA-9 | - Corrected bug when checking substrings for rated words |
| 20:57.40 | CIA-9 | - Changes to enUS word list. |
| 20:57.59 | Elsia | xia: working on it. |
| 20:58.34 | Amadeo | I've been using TipTac lately |
| 20:58.51 | Polarina | I got instantly addictive to another computer game by simply reading its description. :) |
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| 21:00.21 | Elsia | hmm now it simply can't find an instance of LibGraph-2.0 |
| 21:00.31 | Elsia | let me check something |
| 21:00.38 | Xinhuan | did you change your TOC file or embeds.xml |
| 21:00.40 | vithos | sb_: not sure, but man do i hate how it actually matters :( |
| 21:00.42 | xyu | Ellipsis: i found the problem i think. Somehow all the modules in the in-game "AddOns" menu were grayed out. I probably should have looked there first, loading in now to see if that fixed it :) |
| 21:00.42 | Xinhuan | to load the correct path? |
| 21:00.51 | Xinhuan | it has one less /LibGraph-2.0/ now |
| 21:01.01 | Xinhuan | since we external one level deeper |
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| 21:02.46 | Elsia | seems to work now |
| 21:03.18 | Elsia | alright thanks |
| 21:03.22 | Xinhuan | i didn't quite want to change the folder structure because it would break every other existing addon (if any) that externed to it |
| 21:03.55 | Elsia | are there addons that actually use Graph besides recount? |
| 21:03.58 | Arrowmaster | its still new right? |
| 21:03.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:04.07 | Xinhuan | VanosKoS uses a pie chart |
| 21:04.10 | Elsia | ah |
| 21:04.17 | Xinhuan | and possibly one or two other obscure ones |
| 21:04.27 | Elsia | well I'm alright with this, it's gonna confuse the heck out of the next guy to try to use the lib though |
| 21:04.40 | Elsia | basically the path length restriction should go if possible |
| 21:05.00 | Xinhuan | you can shorten the path even more |
| 21:05.04 | Xinhuan | if you set up externals as |
| 21:05.07 | kneeki | I'll make an addon which uses a graph just 'cause! |
| 21:05.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah i say change the lib folder structure now while the number of addons using it are low |
| 21:05.27 | Xinhuan | G http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibGraph-2.0/LibGraph-2.0/ |
| 21:05.29 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:05.43 | Xinhuan | so it would be AddOns\\Recount\\G\\LibGraph-2.0.lua |
| 21:05.58 | Xinhuan | the whole /libs/ folder is just a silly convention you don't have to really follow |
| 21:06.03 | CIA-9 | 03paene * r59611 10Cryolysis2/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 21:06.03 | CIA-9 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:06.03 | CIA-9 | - Updated French Locale |
| 21:06.25 | Xinhuan | so it would be AddOns\\Recount\\libs\\G\\LibGraph-2.0.lua <-- another shorter path, but inside libs/ |
| 21:06.36 | kergoth | heh, re wow: "I knew it before, and then in some moment of weakness I let my cohort twist me into this thing. I don't know how much game is here. What I do know is that they have set up a system that allows me to rent my friends on a monthly basis." |
| 21:07.03 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? hehe |
| 21:07.08 | Elsia | xin: I kind of like verbose directories... nothing wrong with LibGraph-2.0 in Libs ;) |
| 21:07.25 | Xinhuan | i encountered the exact same issue back in Cartographer_Routes |
| 21:07.31 | Xinhuan | because its name is so long |
| 21:07.32 | Amadeo | kergoth: It's the truth! |
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| 21:07.58 | Amadeo | I also think they pack in subliminal messaging! |
| 21:08.04 | Xinhuan | Interface\\AddOns\\Cartographer_Routes\\libs\\Graph-1.0\\Graph-1.0.lua |
| 21:08.09 | Xinhuan | was like the original path |
| 21:08.15 | Xinhuan | we ended up with using |
| 21:08.34 | Xinhuan | Interface\\AddOns\\Cartographer_Routes\\Graph\\Graph-1.0.lua i think |
| 21:08.43 | Xinhuan | then finally we just got rid of the whole graphlib thing |
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| 21:08.48 | Xinhuan | and copied out the one function we used |
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| 21:09.50 | Xinhuan | ~seen cryect |
| 21:09.52 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@c-24-98-97-240.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 17h 50m 6s ago, saying: 'that should be set to allow you no margins'. |
| 21:10.02 | Xinhuan | you can blame him for such an obscure system :D |
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| 21:13.23 | Xinhuan | elsia, remember you can get rid of the graph-1.0/textures external as well |
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| 21:16.05 | Elsia | xin: it's gone |
| 21:16.34 | Xinhuan | there was an issue in VanosKoS actually, the guy embedded Graph-1.0 incorrectly |
| 21:16.57 | Ellipsis | xyu: I take it from your extended silence that enabling those modules fixed your problem? :P |
| 21:17.26 | Chompers | we're wiping on alar, horay for new recruits |
| 21:17.42 | Xinhuan | he embedded the library, but not the textures, so when using it without externals, it works, but when using it with externals, it doesn't -- and additional breaks every other addon that uses graph-1.0 since his version overwrote older versions, but the texture path doesn't exist |
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| 21:20.13 | Aens|Superiority | Is anyone here a raiding oomkin? |
| 21:20.31 | Amadeo | only in real life |
| 21:20.35 | MoonWolf | wrong channel |
| 21:20.54 | Keias | Why do Moonkin have saggy asses? |
| 21:21.15 | Elsia | so that dorf ladies don't feel lonely |
| 21:21.19 | Aens|Superiority | lawl. I was going to show up to tuesdays raid as an oomkin out of nowhere. Just need a spec. |
| 21:21.27 | Estil | OOMKIN |
| 21:24.41 | Estil | and ew dorf ladies :( |
| 21:25.36 | Elsia | what is causing the path-length restriction actually? debugstack? |
| 21:26.38 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 21:26.44 | Xinhuan | blizzard is truncated the path |
| 21:26.51 | Xinhuan | in the debugstack() lua functino call |
| 21:26.55 | Xinhuan | truncating* |
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| 21:27.04 | Xinhuan | and they aren't fixing it |
| 21:27.06 | Elsia | i see |
| 21:28.05 | Xinhuan | another solution is for the addon to tell graph where to find the textures, instead of graph trying to find it itself |
| 21:28.52 | Xinhuan | but that has a possibility that an errant addon can break every other addon using graph |
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| 21:30.03 | Elsia | nah graph should know its textures for sure |
| 21:30.51 | cchome | is it %t for targetname? i need to do a /whisper %t whoever i innverate or rebirth to... |
| 21:31.17 | Arrowmaster | you cant use %t with /whisper like that |
| 21:31.20 | Xinhuan | you can't use %t in anything with a / in front of it |
| 21:31.38 | Xinhuan | except in /say and simple chat |
| 21:31.44 | Xinhuan | like in channels |
| 21:31.54 | Kivin | SendChatMessage("Message", "WHISPER", UnitName('target')) or something |
| 21:33.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you know i think you can overcome that issue of overwriting texture location |
| 21:33.03 | Stanzilla | ./script m="Message!" p=UnitName("target") SendChatMessage(m,"WHISPER",nil,p); |
| 21:33.37 | Xinhuan | you know i'm lazy ~_~ |
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| 21:34.11 | cchome | so i create a macro like: /script m="Message!" p=UnitName("target") SendChatMessage(m,"WHISPER",nil,p); /Cast Innverate TargetName ? |
| 21:34.13 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: eww eww eww |
| 21:34.20 | Stanzilla | w00t |
| 21:34.23 | Xinhuan | yes that macro will work |
| 21:34.44 | kneeki | later all! |
| 21:35.27 | Arrowmaster | just do /run SendChatMessage("Message!","WHISPER",nil,UnitName("target")) /cast Innverate |
| 21:35.34 | Xinhuan | but you are using m and p as global variables |
| 21:35.37 | Xinhuan | so it isn't recommended |
| 21:35.40 | Xinhuan | use Arrowmaster's version |
| 21:35.41 | Arrowmaster | which is bad |
| 21:35.50 | Stanzilla | ok ok^^ |
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| 21:39.01 | cchome | arrow: where do i put the ACTUAL message? lol |
| 21:39.12 | cchome | in "message!" ?? |
| 21:39.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 21:40.23 | cchome | thanks! |
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| 21:41.35 | dylanm | lol wut |
| 21:45.07 | Elsia | any emacs wiz who knows how to turn off automatic line-breaking? |
| 21:46.04 | CIA-9 | 03zariel * r59612 10/branches/AVqq/: Created folder remotely |
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| 21:47.27 | Elsia | hehe, is it evil to add an "empty" bar texture to sharedmedia? |
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| 21:48.25 | raylu | Elsia, no, of course not |
| 21:48.31 | raylu | i think some people would even find it useful |
| 21:48.37 | Zariel | can you make more than 1 folder in a tree at a time ? |
| 21:48.40 | Zariel | in an svn |
| 21:48.41 | CIA-9 | 03zhinjio * r59613 10/branches/SKG/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:48.41 | CIA-9 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 21:48.41 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.41 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.41 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.41 | raylu | and ew, why emacs =\ |
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| 21:48.59 | raylu | Zariel, yes, what svn client? |
| 21:49.03 | Zariel | tsvn |
| 21:49.12 | raylu | i believe you just select them and choose SVN Add |
| 21:49.25 | Zariel | i want to branch someething |
| 21:49.31 | Elsia | emacs is pretty neat once you get used to it |
| 21:49.38 | Zariel | <3 VIM |
| 21:49.45 | raylu | ... |
| 21:49.50 | raylu | by tsvn, you mean tortoise svn, right? |
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| 21:50.27 | Zariel | ye |
| 21:50.41 | Zariel | i want to branch it to a dir but you need to make the dirs first else it crys |
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| 21:51.57 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07zariel * r59614 10AVqq/: Created folder remotely |
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| 21:53.14 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r59615 10/branches/mHud/ (8 files in 6 dirs): mHud: Added falloffs, spent loads of time trying to work out way f:GetTop() sometimes return nil, made a work around solution. Some minor changes to the other modules. |
| 21:53.27 | kergoth | falloffs are back eh, excellent |
| 21:53.56 | kergoth | Merl, noticed you changed the way text works, the ones that obey the bar alpha you add from the bar config. have you added a way to add text independent of a bar back in yet? |
| 21:53.59 | kergoth | looks promising though, i like it |
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| 21:54.35 | kergoth | meh, my workstation hates me at work lately |
| 21:54.53 | Xinhuan | zariel * r59612 /branches/AVqq/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:54.58 | Xinhuan | lol what's AVqq |
| 21:55.04 | Zariel | queues groups for AV |
| 21:55.05 | Xinhuan | sounds like the perfect mod for all the qq-ers in AV |
| 21:55.12 | Zariel | ive writted my own but cba to test it yet |
| 21:55.17 | Zariel | so im just guna fix this up a bit |
| 21:55.23 | Xinhuan | what, its not a mod that automatically whines about why alliance always loses? |
| 21:55.25 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 21:55.26 | Merl | kergoth: no, but I've added a "bright" template to allow it to allways display in 100% alpha regardless of value |
| 21:55.44 | Zariel | lol noes ^^ it sends addon message to queue to av so you all join at the same time |
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| 21:55.57 | Xinhuan | isn't there like 10 addons that already do this? |
| 21:56.04 | Zariel | probally |
| 21:56.06 | Xinhuan | i see questions asked about such a mod eveyday on UI forums |
| 21:56.09 | Zariel | this one already exists |
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| 21:56.41 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07zariel * r59616 10AVqq/AVqq/: |
| 21:56.41 | CIA-9 | AVqq: |
| 21:56.41 | CIA-9 | - Split to branch for personal dev |
| 21:56.52 | Merl | kergoth: decided all text should be relevant to some bar, in one way or another. The same goes for the colors =) Default for the falloffs now is same color as the bar, not to visible, but haven't made any template for them yet =) |
| 21:57.07 | kergoth | ah, that works. cool |
| 21:59.52 | Merl | hehe, sounds good kergoth, I'm of to bed soon (EU), but do send me something if I've overlooked some stuff :) |
| 22:00.25 | kergoth | will do. i'm running out of local hacks applied to the tree, that's got to be a good sign |
| 22:00.26 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:00.34 | potemkin | is there a simple way to make a frame grow downwards when i increase the height |
| 22:01.12 | Merl | potemkin: set the anchor differently, like topleft :) |
| 22:01.13 | Ellipsis | yeah, anchor it at the top instead of the bottom |
| 22:02.01 | potemkin | o didnt know it stays on the anchor |
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| 22:04.23 | raylu | that's what "anchor" means :P |
| 22:04.39 | raylu | someone mentioned an addon that allows you to inspect people who are also running it, what was the name? |
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| 22:06.30 | Elsia | hmm any freeware paint program for tga files? |
| 22:06.39 | Arrowmaster | gimp |
| 22:06.39 | raylu | convert them :D |
| 22:06.44 | CIA-9 | 03lordrhys * r59617 10FuBar_WarriorAlertFu/ (7 files): FuBar_WarriorAlertFu: 2.0.0 Modified to use separate module for Fubar support, still under test. |
| 22:06.55 | Elsia | gah is gimp still as gimpy as it was 2 years ago? |
| 22:07.03 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:07.07 | Elsia | hmm |
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| 22:09.09 | Merl | I'm off... |
| 22:09.57 | Stanzilla | paint.net? |
| 22:10.12 | kergoth | paint.net is awesome for quick stuff |
| 22:11.18 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 22:11.35 | Xinhuan | gimp is nice |
| 22:11.47 | Elsia | what would be the smallest tga to make empty bar textures? Just one empty pixel line? |
| 22:12.36 | Shadowed | Zariel: At least if you're going to do AV queue mod #134 just support something like what StinkyQueue does already instead of using a completely new format |
| 22:12.50 | Shadowed | thats only compatabile with your own mod |
| 22:13.06 | Zariel | think AVqq supports stinyqueue |
| 22:13.56 | Shadowed | Only supports syncs from stinkyqueue |
| 22:14.10 | Shadowed | as in, just send out the actual queue request as what stinkyqueue uses |
| 22:15.30 | Elsia | hmm transparency in gimp? |
| 22:15.52 | Zariel | kk |
| 22:16.20 | Elsia | found it |
| 22:16.29 | Shadowed | Specifically, prefix "StinkyQ" msg "Queue" for queuing, and same prefix but "LeaveQueue" for dropping the AV queue |
| 22:16.53 | Xinhuan | Elsia, keep in mind WoW only reads texture files that have dimensions that are powers of 2 |
| 22:17.04 | Xinhuan | the minimum is 16x16, the largest is 512x512 |
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| 22:17.18 | Elsia | yep, have a 16x16 max opacity square now for Empty.tga |
| 22:17.27 | Zariel | It supports queue atm ill add leavequeue |
| 22:18.39 | Elsia | sigh, gimp seems to be unable to write opacity tga |
| 22:18.55 | Elsia | though it loads it fine |
| 22:19.12 | Xinhuan | opacity? |
| 22:19.16 | Xinhuan | did you mean transparency? |
| 22:19.20 | Elsia | yeps |
| 22:19.34 | Xinhuan | it has a set color to transparent somewhere |
| 22:19.42 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure gimp can save alpha channels |
| 22:19.44 | Xinhuan | to tga files |
| 22:19.47 | Xinhuan | cos i've done it before |
| 22:19.58 | Osstia | Xinhuan: what haven't you done? |
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| 22:20.07 | Xinhuan | earn 1 million dollars ir |
| 22:20.08 | Xinhuan | l |
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| 22:20.13 | Osstia | damn |
| 22:20.20 | Osstia | thats a tough one |
| 22:20.22 | Kivin | meh, the little thigns |
| 22:20.24 | Kivin | things* |
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| 22:20.30 | phyber | so, why is Threat fucked lately? is it just because someone in the raid is running an old version or what? |
| 22:20.33 | Osstia | now earn ~= save |
| 22:20.38 | Osstia | err != |
| 22:20.53 | Osstia | I think I might have earned a million |
| 22:21.00 | Osstia | but don't have much to show for it |
| 22:21.18 | Kivin | My job is to talk people into saving what they earn :P |
| 22:21.21 | Kivin | Easier said than done |
| 22:21.24 | Osstia | I think I have spen $995,500 of it |
| 22:21.38 | Osstia | do you work for a bank? |
| 22:21.42 | Kivin | Gods, no. |
| 22:21.52 | Kivin | Banks make you spend spend spend |
| 22:22.07 | Osstia | sounds like my ex-wife |
| 22:22.19 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with threat, phyber? |
| 22:22.45 | phyber | http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_012808_221849.jpg |
| 22:22.46 | phyber | this |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07zariel * r59618 10AVqq/AVqq/ (. AVqq.lua AVqq.toc embeds.xml): |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | AVqq: |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | - Removed fluff |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | - Removed globals |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | - Removed Fubar/slash command support |
| 22:23.08 | CIA-9 | - Added StinkyQueue Leave support |
| 22:23.10 | CIA-9 | - Removed Ace2/Lib dependancies |
| 22:23.19 | kneeki | That's a lot of bars =P |
| 22:23.25 | phyber | <3 bars |
| 22:24.15 | Osstia | salience is gonna get his ass whooped |
| 22:24.25 | Elsia | alright, transparent 16x16.. lets see |
| 22:24.37 | Arrowmaster | phyber: you on us or eu? |
| 22:24.41 | phyber | Arrowmaster: EU |
| 22:24.45 | kneeki | Is there an easy to read combat log mod other than EavesDrop? I cannot seem to find any & I don't want another window on my screen. -_- |
| 22:25.03 | Zariel | SimpleCombatLog |
| 22:25.08 | Arrowmaster | phyber: yeah id say bitch at everybody until they all update |
| 22:25.10 | kneeki | O.o |
| 22:25.22 | kneeki | That name sounds very .... I like it :) |
| 22:25.26 | kneeki | I'll check it out, thanks! |
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| 22:31.52 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 22:31.54 | Paene | wooo, so I might get a decent job thanks to my work on Cryo2 :D |
| 22:32.02 | Zhinjio | I just had a revelation |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-9 | 03zariel 07zariel * r59619 10AVqq/AVqq/AVqq.lua: |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-9 | AVqq: |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-9 | - Added slash command |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-9 | - Pink text fails |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-9 | - Fixed OnMsgRcv() args |
| 22:36.15 | thul | armbars ftw. |
| 22:36.43 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59620 10Recount/ (11 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:36.43 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 22:36.43 | CIA-9 | - Auto-delete combatants will now take the owner time of pets for pet deletion. |
| 22:36.43 | CIA-9 | That is, pets will only be deleted if their owner gets deleted. It will now also |
| 22:36.43 | CIA-9 | always delete both pet-handler and all pets together. This is hopefully more |
| 22:36.44 | CIA-9 | intuitive auto-delete combatant behavior. |
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| 22:36.46 | CIA-9 | - Added options to enable/disable arrow buttons for paging the main window. |
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| 22:50.53 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59621 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Empty.tga): |
| 22:50.53 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia: |
| 22:50.53 | CIA-9 | - Add statusbar Empty |
| 22:51.17 | NeoTron | Hyjal/BT attunement is so annoying |
| 22:51.24 | Elsia | true |
| 22:52.02 | NeoTron | we got an pre-cleared instance (just vashj left) and got a vial for a new recruit |
| 22:52.02 | NeoTron | unfortunately he also needs the dude at fathomlord |
| 22:52.02 | NeoTron | so we still have to do some partial SSC clearing. :-/ |
| 22:52.13 | Elsia | I know how you feel, I still need al'ar :/ |
| 22:55.45 | Elsia | nite |
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| 22:59.13 | NeoTron | we might just do a morogrim/FL instance run |
| 22:59.19 | NeoTron | not bother with any other bosses |
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| 22:59.41 | Pkekyo| | GRAAAAAAOWBLARARABLARAR |
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| 23:00.34 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59622 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Fix some errors |
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| 23:04.42 | Stanzilla | oh noes |
| 23:04.45 | Stanzilla | recount is broken now :( |
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| 23:05.39 | Xinhuan | how heh |
| 23:05.51 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6921.msg175007#msg175007 |
| 23:06.20 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 23:06.23 | Xinhuan | sounds like a config file didn't get loaded |
| 23:06.26 | Stanzilla | it can't find LibGraph |
| 23:06.39 | Xinhuan | did he update x-embeds? |
| 23:06.42 | Xinhuan | in the toc |
| 23:06.47 | Xinhuan | i assume you use disembedded |
| 23:06.50 | Stanzilla | doesn't matter |
| 23:06.54 | kneeki | Inc spam x4 addons |
| 23:07.00 | Stanzilla | I installed recount + libgraph from wau |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59623 10BlessingBar/ (BlessingBar.lua BlessingBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | BlessingBar: |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | - Buttons now colorize like default WoW UI, changing colors on |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | range/mana/flying/death, buttons will now also create regardless if you are out |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | of mana/flying, changed the drag button from CTRL to Shift, which is the default |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-9 | binding for WoW (less confusing this way) |
| 23:07.14 | Xinhuan | it doesn't use 1.0 anymore |
| 23:07.17 | Xinhuan | it uses 2.0 |
| 23:07.22 | Stanzilla | yeah I installed 2.0 |
| 23:07.36 | Xinhuan | the TOC still needs to be updated |
| 23:07.42 | Xinhuan | to optdep libgraph-2.0 |
| 23:07.46 | Xinhuan | and x-embeds it |
| 23:07.51 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59624 10CurseBar/ (CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 23:07.51 | CIA-9 | CurseBar: |
| 23:07.51 | CIA-9 | - Buttons now colorize like default WoW UI, changing colors on |
| 23:07.51 | CIA-9 | range/mana/flying/death, buttons will now also create regardless if you are out |
| 23:07.52 | Xinhuan | did he do it? is the question |
| 23:07.52 | CIA-9 | of mana/flying, changed the drag button from CTRL to Shift, which is the default |
| 23:07.52 | Stanzilla | well |
| 23:07.54 | CIA-9 | binding for WoW (less confusing this way) |
| 23:08.01 | Stanzilla | still there's something wrong with the path |
| 23:08.09 | Stanzilla | because Recount can't find my LibGraph-2.0 |
| 23:08.22 | Xinhuan | yes it can't find graph2.0 probably because the TOC isn't updated... |
| 23:08.38 | Stanzilla | could you update the toc pls? :( |
| 23:08.40 | Xinhuan | libgraph-2.0 is LoD, so it must be optdep in the TOC to force it to load |
| 23:08.41 | Stanzilla | Elsia went to bed |
| 23:08.54 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59625 10SealBar/ (SealBar.lua SealBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 23:08.54 | CIA-9 | SealBar: |
| 23:08.54 | CIA-9 | - Buttons now colorize like default WoW UI, changing colors on |
| 23:08.54 | CIA-9 | range/mana/flying/death, buttons will now also create regardless if you are out |
| 23:08.54 | CIA-9 | of mana/flying, changed the drag button from CTRL to Shift, which is the default |
| 23:08.56 | CIA-9 | binding for WoW (less confusing this way) |
| 23:08.57 | Xinhuan | i don't use recount, i'm asking you to check the toc to see if he did update it or not |
| 23:09.19 | Xinhuan | also recount's svn folder is locked, only elsia and another account can commit to it |
| 23:09.32 | Stanzilla | k |
| 23:09.56 | kneeki | yay, last one. =D |
| 23:09.56 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 23:10.02 | Stanzilla | toc has the old version |
| 23:10.03 | Stanzilla | -.- |
| 23:10.10 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r59626 10SummoningBar/ (SummoningBar.lua SummoningBar.toc Template.xml): |
| 23:10.10 | CIA-9 | SummoningBar: |
| 23:10.10 | CIA-9 | - Buttons now colorize like default WoW UI, changing colors on |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-9 | range/mana/flying/death, buttons will now also create regardless if you are out |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-9 | of mana/flying, changed the drag button from CTRL to Shift, which is the default |
| 23:10.11 | CIA-9 | binding for WoW (less confusing this way) |
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| 23:10.18 | Elsia | stan? |
| 23:10.39 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 23:10.44 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 23:10.46 | Xinhuan | Elsia, you didn't update your Recount.toc |
| 23:10.59 | Xinhuan | to X-embeds the new libraries (for ppl who run disembedded) |
| 23:11.06 | Xinhuan | and optdep the new libraries as wel |
| 23:11.07 | Elsia | hmm |
| 23:11.28 | Elsia | ah yes |
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| 23:12.21 | Elsia | hope that's the issue stan is getting because otherwise the errors are weird.. let me commit the toc |
| 23:12.34 | Stanzilla | yeah I'll test again then |
| 23:12.50 | Xinhuan | stan's errors are because libgraph-2.0 can't be found |
| 23:12.53 | Xinhuan | so loading halted |
| 23:12.58 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:13.06 | Xinhuan | as x-embeds wasn't updated to tell WAU to download it |
| 23:13.16 | Stanzilla | well but I had it |
| 23:13.17 | CIA-9 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r59627 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: just pushing some code around |
| 23:13.22 | Xinhuan | yes but ## OptionalDeps: |
| 23:13.26 | Xinhuan | needs to include it in as well |
| 23:13.27 | Stanzilla | yeah yeah :p |
| 23:13.38 | Elsia | alright, these look ok: http://ace.pastey.net/81401 |
| 23:13.44 | Xinhuan | because the libstub libraries doesn't force load the libraries |
| 23:13.46 | Xinhuan | unlike ace2 |
| 23:14.10 | Stanzilla | you could use SharedMedia-2.0 but that's not important |
| 23:14.11 | Elsia | i see, adding LibSharedMedia-2.0 to opt |
| 23:14.32 | Xinhuan | LSM2 doesn't have to be optdep because i think LSM2 is truely optional? |
| 23:14.36 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure |
| 23:14.45 | Xinhuan | i.e will Recount function without LSM2? |
| 23:14.56 | Elsia | lemme check |
| 23:15.19 | Xinhuan | if it is truely optional, it shouldn't be in X-embeds either |
| 23:15.28 | Elsia | nah it's not optional |
| 23:15.41 | Xinhuan | some addons choose to support LSM2 if detected, otherwise if not detected, just carry on normally |
| 23:15.45 | Xinhuan | such as Xperl |
| 23:15.49 | Elsia | maybe I'll make it optional some day but not today |
| 23:16.04 | Elsia | my SRI addon does optional SM support |
| 23:16.19 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: I guess you can make it optional when you deliver a default font/texture with the addon to act as a fallback |
| 23:16.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont think anybody really cares about LSM2 being required vs optional |
| 23:16.45 | Xinhuan | probably, recount already is a memory hog anyway ;d |
| 23:17.02 | Stanzilla | tried assessment? |
| 23:17.06 | Stanzilla | THAT is a memory hog |
| 23:17.08 | Elsia | recount does come with a minimal set of bar textures and a font so it could be standalone.. it just never if SM then |
| 23:17.38 | Elsia | anyways, making SM optional is for another day... lets fix the toc |
| 23:18.00 | Elsia | hows this one: http://ace.pastey.net/81403 |
| 23:18.55 | Stanzilla | hm why SharedMedia AND LibSharedMedia-2.0? |
| 23:19.09 | kergoth | sharedmedia is a pack of textures/fonts |
| 23:19.14 | kergoth | for the sharedmedia libraries |
| 23:19.21 | Elsia | one is the lib one is the data |
| 23:19.45 | Elsia | the lib doesn't actually contain textures etc, just manages them |
| 23:19.49 | Stanzilla | well I thought SharedMedia-2.0 is for LibSharedMedia-2.0 and SharedMedia for SharedMediaLib? |
| 23:19.52 | Stanzilla | nvm then.. |
| 23:20.33 | Elsia | it's a valid point actually. because SharedMedia is actually not embedded, I could change to SharedMedia-2.0 |
| 23:21.14 | kergoth | you dont need an optdep on sharedmedia or sharedmedia-2.0 at all, that's completely optional, it's jsut more textures and crap, and if the load order matters, it's a bug in your addon |
| 23:21.43 | Elsia | k, I'll just drop the SharedMedia reference in opt then |
| 23:22.00 | Elsia | recount does work without either it just needs the lib |
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| 23:23.12 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59628 10Recount/Recount.toc: |
| 23:23.12 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 23:23.12 | CIA-9 | - Fixed toc for libstub library dependencies. |
| 23:23.51 | Elsia | stan: can you give this a quick test when it comes up? |
| 23:24.10 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:24.13 | Elsia | coolio |
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| 23:26.06 | Elsia | any tricks how one can test embedded and disembedded without breaking limbs? |
| 23:26.38 | genetik | two Addon directories |
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| 23:26.57 | Stanzilla | seems to work Elsia |
| 23:27.03 | Elsia | thanks stan :D |
| 23:27.07 | Stanzilla | np |
| 23:31.05 | Kivin | Is there any significantly compelling reason for me to not release an addon that has Ace3 dependencies? |
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| 23:32.44 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r59629 10SharedMedia-2.0/ (SharedMedia-2.0.lua statusbar/Empty.tga): |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia-2.0: |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-9 | - Add statusbar Empty |
| 23:34.14 | kergoth | Kivin, well, the ace3 libs don't have minor versions set and incremented right now, afaik, so upgrades between multiple versions just won't happen, the first to load will be it |
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| 23:34.20 | kergoth | but there have been releases of ace3 addons to wowi |
| 23:34.22 | kergoth | so /shrug |
| 23:34.34 | Kivin | kergoth: I was actually thinking of embedding the ace3 libs and not setting them as externals for now |
| 23:34.46 | Pkekyo| | bah, I bloody hate having to keep track of everything I eat and drink >.< |
| 23:34.53 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r59630 10Grid/GridLocale-frFR.lua: |
| 23:34.53 | CIA-9 | Grid: |
| 23:34.53 | CIA-9 | - frFr update |
| 23:34.54 | Kivin | then fixing externals when an official release is available |
| 23:34.57 | kergoth | the same thing applies, iirc they arent using svn keyword expansion to fill in the minor version ,it's just 0 |
| 23:35.03 | ag` | kergoth, kill them |
| 23:35.37 | kergoth | not really a fan of using keywords for it, personally, but if you dont, you need to bump it manually |
| 23:35.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:37.06 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59631 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridStatusHeals.lua): Grid: Don't depend on UTFLib/CastCommLib, people who run disembedded can delete these libraries now if they don't want to use them. |
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| 23:40.23 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59632 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Fix a nil error temporarily |
| 23:42.39 | Elsia | nite |
| 23:42.44 | Stanzilla | nite |
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| 23:43.34 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r59633 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: Add an option for the tracking circle to only show up always/never/with profession/while tracking. |
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| 23:46.11 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r59634 10ElkBuffBars/ (. EBB_Bar.lua ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc embeds.xml): ElkBuffBars: Don't depend on UTF8Lib. |
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| 23:48.33 | Xinhuan | is doing |
| 23:48.40 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r59635 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: working latency and memory blocks, all 4 saving position and disabling properly. |
| 23:48.53 | Xinhuan | (variable * variable) faster than doing (variable ^ 2) ? hmmmmmmm |
| 23:49.23 | Xinhuan | does lua optimize away ^2 into multiplying itself |
| 23:49.35 | clad|sleep | no, the compiler does hardly any optimisations |
| 23:49.39 | clad|sleep | lua> profile(function() local n = 13 * 13 end) |
| 23:49.40 | lua_bot | clad|sleep: [string "profile(function() local n = 13 * 13 end)"]:1: attempt to call global 'profile' (a nil value) |
| 23:49.46 | clad|sleep | lua> SV.profile(function() local n = 13 * 13 end) |
| 23:49.46 | lua_bot | clad|sleep: 0, |
| 23:49.55 | clad|sleep | damn, i forget the args to that function |
| 23:49.55 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 23:49.57 | clad|sleep | oh well |
| 23:49.58 | clad|sleep | sleep |
| 23:50.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no |
| 23:50.13 | Xinhuan | no is to which question |
| 23:50.18 | ckknight | Xinhuan: could cause issues for tables or userdata if it did that |
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| 23:51.29 | Xinhuan | i'll assume x*x is faster than x^2 in almost all cases |
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| 23:58.32 | Tem|Work | Xinhuan, I highly doubt that you're at a point of optimization where any speed difference that *might* exist between x*x and x^2 would even be noticable |
| 23:58.47 | Tem|Work | s/noticable/measurable/ |
| 23:59.13 | Xinhuan | i have loops that go 8 levels deep when calculating an optimal path in travelling salesman problem - an NP-hard problem |
| 23:59.20 | Tem|Work | you're after a splinter when you should be after a plank |
| 23:59.23 | Xinhuan | in Routes ;p |
| 23:59.28 | Xinhuan | so i'll say yes, it is needed |
| 23:59.35 | CIA-9 | 03scorpion * r59636 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 23:59.35 | CIA-9 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:59.35 | CIA-9 | - update zhTW localization |
| 23:59.35 | CIA-9 | - update zhCN localization |
| 23:59.39 | Ellipsis- | so test it and let us know which is better! |
