IRC log for #wowace on 20080124

00:01.32khanggi think this is my 7th across my characters
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00:06.26Lightfazkirkburn?
00:08.12KirkburnLightfaz, sorry, distracted
00:08.13KirkburnYes
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00:13.47thulhttp://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/52/524/524750/faith858_1201113874.jpg <- that sexy main character.. ofcourse I'm buying it
00:18.46khanggi don't like the drop rate on this quest :(
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00:20.25CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59248 10Routes/ (Plugins/Gatherer.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Add drycode Gatherer stuff.
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00:24.43Trell_is tekkub's tourguide still in development, and can anyone remember what the link for it was?
00:25.36Gnarfozis there something else besides GetScreenWidth to find out how wide the picture rendered by wow actually is?
00:25.48durcynFunkeh`: check line 119 on your last commit of Magtheridon.lua
00:25.57Trell_ah nvm, found it
00:25.58GnarfozI can't get rid of the feeling that wow is stretching the picture, it seems squashed :<
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00:35.01CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59249 10Routes/Plugins/Gatherer.lua: Routes: Add some comments, cleanup some code
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00:36.02thulhttp://alienlovespredator.com/?id=35
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00:39.30Trell_wow, tourguide has become amazing in the couple of months ive been off wow
00:41.31CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59250 10Routes/Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: Routes: Add Gatherer locale stuff
00:46.59Xinhuani am
00:47.12CIA-4803funkydude * r59251 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: typo
00:47.33NeoTrongems are at least 15-20g more than they usually go for
00:47.43NeoTronand there are very few cut gems (or gems in general) on the AH
00:48.02kergothgems are a big market, i wouldnt want to be the one trying to control it
00:48.03kergothheh
00:48.13Xinhuanits the day after weekly arena points update after server maintenance, noobie
00:48.27Xinhuangems always go up in price on wednesday/thursday
00:48.31Xinhuanwhen everyone buys arena game
00:48.56NeoTronsince I'm the one selling gems, it works for me
00:49.11NeoTronXinhuan: well i've been doing gems for quite a few weeks now
00:49.13NeoTronthis is not normal
00:49.31NeoTronin the past 6 weeks maybe I have not see gem prices go up like this
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00:50.49NeoTronI've netted approximately 11-12k gold on jewelcrafting
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00:51.40Funkeh`durcyn, thanks
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00:54.53Dezzimalhow would you check for a buff in a macro?
00:55.01NivFreakyou can't
00:55.04NivFreakafaik
00:55.38dylanmI mean you can use the api in a /script but you couldn't do much with that knowledge in-combat.
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00:57.36Dezzimalhrm
00:57.46Dezzimalcan you do a cancelaura in a cast sequence?
00:57.55NightHawkAtWorkno
00:58.32NightHawkAtWorkor rather, you can do cancelaura in the same macro as a cast sequence, but not within a single cast sequence
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00:58.35Dezzimaltrying to make a macro to toggle Righteous Fury
00:58.55NightHawkAtWorkcan't be done
00:59.06Dezzimalsecond opinion?
00:59.18dylanmDezzimal: Probably could do it with that thing cogwheel made
00:59.51dylanmAh, found it.
00:59.54Dezzimalyeah I saw something about that
01:00.08dylanmhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html
01:00.10Dezzimalwhen digging around for something to do that
01:00.28dylanmHe had some screenshots of a gui but it looks like this version requires editing some files, which isn't so bad.
01:02.00NightHawkAtWorkhm, thats interesting. that might, almost, work.
01:02.03Dezzimalah interesting
01:02.09NightHawkAtWorkit'd be a nasty hack, and probably error prone though
01:03.12dylanmWha?
01:03.20Dezzimalso with a castsequence what if I don't want it to reset?
01:03.22NightHawkAtWorkseems like the best you could do is sequence /cast Righeous Fury and /cancelaura Righteous Fury, with a reset time equal to RF's duration. But that's crude.
01:03.24Dezzimalreset = 0?
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01:04.27NivFreakDezzimal: omit reset
01:04.32NightHawkAtWorkI never underestood why RF had a duration anyway.
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01:06.06CIA-4803joshborke 07Ace3 * r59252 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: over-hauled the cast showing code, maybe better now?
01:06.08dylanmLots of buffs like that.
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01:15.35CIA-4803pernicius 07pernicius * r59253 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/ (16 files in 6 dirs):
01:15.35CIA-48AtlasOfAzeroth:
01:15.35CIA-48- removed extra options addon (its internal now)
01:15.35CIA-48- added scrolllist widget
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01:16.35PrimerXinhuan: http://sh.nu/FlightHUD.png (seems firefox doesn't handle tga natively)
01:16.55Primeryes, I know it's 1024x64. I'm going to scale it to 512x64 now
01:17.58Xinhuanlooks cool
01:17.59sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: are you implementing the damn trignomentric horizon thing?
01:20.56Primerhrmm, it doesn't look half bad at 512x32
01:21.22Primerexcept it needs to stretch more to look more realistic
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01:21.30kergothPrimer: nice, that looks cool
01:21.55PrimerI just need to do the magic to append it to itself to wrap
01:22.03Primerand occlude what shouldn't be shown
01:22.18Primerand milestone 1 will be complete!
01:22.34sag_ich_nichthm
01:22.39sag_ich_nichtokay maybe i should change my question then
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01:22.43sag_ich_nichtPrimer: are you implementing the damn trignomentric horizon thing?
01:23.19Primersag_ich_nicht: eventually I will need some trig to overlay headings to major points in the zone
01:23.46Primerbut for now the only math I have transforms the bearing's radians into degrees
01:23.59Primerhttp://sh.nu/ss43.jpg
01:24.42sag_ich_nichtsomeone show Primer the UI forums thread about getting the attack vector
01:24.44Primerthat number is a FontString overlayed onto the image, which does pan already
01:25.05Primerthat's a different image, of course
01:25.05aestilwoot on my tv costing only 1699! :D
01:25.14sag_ich_nichtwhat.
01:25.15sag_ich_nichtthat is a lot.
01:25.20sag_ich_nichtHDTV?
01:25.25aestil60"
01:25.28Xinhuan[1/24 09:17:56] <sag_ich_nicht> Xinhuan: are you implementing the damn trignomentric horizon thing?
01:25.29Xinhuanwhat?
01:25.40sag_ich_nichtwait lemme get you a link
01:25.49PrimerXinhuan: <sag_ich_nicht> okay maybe i should change my question then
01:25.52sag_ich_nichti missunderstood the situation anyway, thus redirected it at Primer
01:25.53Primer<sag_ich_nicht> Primer: are you implementing the damn trignomentric horizon thing?
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01:27.53aestilTV lists for 2199, usually sold for 1999.  I'm hoping that in the next few months it'll drop by 30-100 more :D
01:27.59aestilanyone hear the rumor of the 299 PS3?
01:27.59sag_ich_nichtPrimer Xinhuan i can't find the thread right now, anyway, you can get the attack vector for your flight using trigonometrics and your speed on the map, and concluding from that and a proper measurement of the average height in game, your alitude
01:28.05sag_ich_nichtgo ask Shirik|Ecole about it
01:28.38ckknightI've done it too, with Cart
01:28.55sag_ich_nichtlolwut
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01:29.09ckknightwell, not the yaw
01:29.36Primersag_ich_nicht: the only thing I don't like about that is the fact that you need to be moving to derive it
01:29.56Shirik|Ecoleno you don't
01:30.00Shirik|Ecolewell I guess ou do
01:30.06JoshBorkeyes you do =P
01:30.10Shirik|Ecoleyou could theoretically change your pitch even if you're not moving
01:30.19JoshBorkeyes you can
01:30.26Shirik|Ecoleonly stupid people do that!
01:30.27JoshBorkeand it's not theoretical, i do it all the time
01:30.38JoshBorkehence i'm a stupid person
01:30.42Shirik|Ecole:P
01:30.44vithoshow would you tell the difference between up and down?
01:30.49Shirik|Ecolefuzzy logic
01:30.55JoshBorkethat's the part i don't understand
01:31.04Shirik|EcoleIt's not easy by any means
01:31.08vithosi mean i can imagine how you'd get the angle
01:31.41vithoser wait, the api gives you the angle?
01:32.03sag_ich_nichtno
01:32.04Primerno
01:32.05sag_ich_nichtdoesn't
01:32.13Primeronly angle you can get is camera angle
01:32.19Primerwhich doesn't help
01:32.21sag_ich_nichtyou use trig. to get the angle
01:32.21vithosah right, that's what i'm thinking of
01:32.47ckknightyou get the player arrow on the minimap and get its angle
01:33.04sag_ich_nichtsince when you fly in an angle you drop below your normal speed, horizontal wise
01:33.36ckknightyea, so then you do a cos-1 equation, right?
01:34.14Ellipsisew math
01:34.16Ellipsismake it stop
01:35.09Shirik|Ecoleit's called arccos
01:35.25Shirik|Ecolecos^-1 == sec
01:35.51Shirik|EcoleAnyway, anyone want to look at my Java code to tell me why I'm blind?
01:36.07sag_ich_nicht~asktoask
01:36.08purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
01:36.15Shirik|EcoleThis ain't a java channel yo
01:36.29sag_ich_nichti don't care yo, the same applies yo!
01:36.31Shirik|EcoleBesides, I didn't ask to ask a question
01:36.31PrimerLF OT #wowace
01:36.38Shirik|EcoleI asked if anyone wants to look at my code
01:36.51sag_ich_nichtShirik|Ecole don't argue irt
01:36.53sag_ich_nicht*it
01:36.56Shirik|EcoleAnyway, line: com1.setFlowControlMode(SerialPort.FLOWCONTROL_NONE);
01:37.01sag_ich_nichtyou've already lost and you know it!
01:37.05sag_ich_nichtsooo
01:37.12sag_ich_nichtyou're doing a serial port interface
01:37.15Shirik|Ecoleerror: *** Semantic Error: No field named "FLOWCONTROL_NONE" was found in type "javax.comm.SerialPort".
01:37.25sag_ich_nichtoÔ
01:37.26Shirik|Ecolejavadoc: http://java.sun.com/products/javacomm/reference/api/javax/comm/SerialPort.html#setSerialPortParams(int,%20int,%20int,%20int)
01:37.34Shirik|Ecolejavadoc disagrees
01:37.43Shirik|Ecole(as far as I can tell)
01:38.38Ellipsislooks like fail to me
01:38.57Shirik|Ecolelink -s
01:39.02thul:-(
01:39.04thulI feel abused.
01:39.09sag_ich_nichtgood
01:39.09Shirik|Ecoleit's ok thul, I linked you
01:39.12sag_ich_nichtthen my work here is done
01:39.15Shirik|EcoleYou're accessible elsewhere
01:39.16RaydenUoh man
01:39.17thulln -s thul sag_ich_nicht
01:39.18Ellipsisooh sag_ich_nicht
01:39.24Ellipsisnot in the channel :>
01:39.26RaydenUkara group needs dps for prince, illhoof, and netherspite
01:39.37thulRaydenU: server, faction, continent? :-P
01:39.37kebinusanhow does string.lower handle special characters like å
01:39.48Shirik|Ecolekebinusan: Those characters are not natively supported by Lua
01:39.55Shirik|Ecoleso according to the manual, its behavior is undefined
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01:40.16thultoo late:P
01:40.18Xinhuanlua> string.lower("Ã¥")
01:40.18lua_botXinhuan: å,
01:40.25thulseriously, tkd-people confuse me
01:40.26RaydenUcontinent?
01:40.29RaydenUoh
01:40.31thulRaydenU: us.. eu
01:40.32thul:-P
01:40.34thulor cn
01:40.36thul:-D
01:40.36RaydenUus destromath horde
01:40.38kebinusanstupid guildmates changing their names seems to have screwed up my dkp bid mod
01:40.39sag_ich_nichtthul no
01:40.42kebinusanby adding funky characters
01:40.44RaydenUi'm tired of not progressing with my guild
01:40.47RaydenUi'm going to go
01:40.53thulRaydenU: come to balnazzar eu
01:40.54thul:-P
01:41.01RaydenUwhy?
01:41.02sag_ich_nichtbecause now your leg is trapped in the bubble
01:41.06sag_ich_nichtthus making it easy for me
01:41.10thulbeacause progression is assured then
01:41.19thulsag_ich_nicht: pfft, my lowkicks are lightning fast:P
01:41.19sag_ich_nichtto make you bleed to death.
01:41.25thulyou bubbled way too late :-D
01:41.33sag_ich_nichtthul: i have F1 bound to bubble
01:41.34sag_ich_nichtno way
01:41.35sag_ich_nicht:>
01:41.44thulbut again, tkd/karate/input akido or something else like it confuses me
01:41.55thul"low kicks are not dangerous, so we won't change our balance by blocking them"
01:42.40thulthen they whine about me fucking up their thighs when i lowkick them :/
01:43.03sag_ich_nichtthat's the noob atitude
01:43.05sag_ich_nichtlow kicks aren't dangerous
01:43.15sag_ich_nichtunless they are done right by a person with proper training
01:43.42sag_ich_nichtthe instructions assume that you are facing an equally unskilled oponent
01:43.44sag_ich_nichtwhich is bullshit
01:43.56sag_ich_nichtyou almost never have 1:1 odds
01:44.09thulthai low kicks ftw :-D
01:44.30kebinusanIf Im searchign a table for a player name containing a special character, do I need to do anything different, because I dont seem to be matching their names
01:44.39sag_ich_nichti should start doing shaolin kung fu again >.>
01:44.39thulbu time for sleep, Ellipsis doesen't love me anymore and sag_ich_nicht abuses me :-P
01:44.42sag_ich_nichtbut i am so fucking lazy
01:44.43thulcya tomorrow :-D
01:48.24PrimerI've got it scrolling!
01:48.37Primernow I just need to do the appending magic and line it up
01:48.45CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59254 10Routes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Routes: Fix stuff. You can now draw node data from Gatherer. Callbacks (auto add/delete nodes) do not work for Gatherer as it currently doesn't support callbacks.
01:49.48NightHawkAtWorkhttp://funtasticus.com/20080121/why-i-fired-my-secretary/
01:50.51CIA-4803xinhuan 07Beta * r59255 10Ace3/docs/AceEvent-3.0.txt: Ace3 - Fix documentation from :TriggerMessage() to :SendMessage()
01:53.16kebinusanfor some reason this fails if the persons name contains nonstandard characters, can anyone recommend a way to fix it? .. its in the table exaclty as displayed there, dkp.players["JÃ¥sper"].dkp_effective
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01:55.23GillrisperHello all
01:55.48GillrisperCan anyone help me get Cartographer working right?
01:56.33CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59256 10Routes/TSP.lua: Routes: Rename "Cartographer node IDs" references to itself in the function documentations
01:58.52Primerbah, gamecam doesn't work with vista?
01:59.05dylanmGillrisper: Depends on the problem. Might want to just state the problem.
01:59.08Xinhuanlua> string.byte(Ã¥, 1, 2)
01:59.09lua_botXinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "string.byte(Ã¥, 1, 2)"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'Ã'
01:59.11PrimerI want to make a quick video of my (semi) working addon!
01:59.14Xinhuanlua> string.byte("Ã¥", 1, 2)
01:59.15lua_botXinhuan: 195, 165,
01:59.23Xinhuanthat character is 2 bytes
01:59.25Xinhuanso
01:59.39Xinhuandkp.players["J\195\165sper"].dkp_effective
01:59.41Xinhuanwill access it
01:59.52Gillrisperhehe... good point - here goes. First off, is there a difference between Cartographer and Cartographer1?
02:00.31durcynCartographer1 is the old Ace2 version, and is unsupported as such
02:00.54Gillrisperok so cartographer is the more up to date version of the addon?
02:01.44kebinusanXinhuan: wouldnt happen to have a sample code snippet to search someones player name  and put in the appropriate escape code like that would you
02:01.55sag_ich_nichtyes Gillrisper
02:02.03sag_ich_nichtalso, cartographer1 isn't the old Ace2 version
02:02.09sag_ich_nichtCartographer1 is a dramawhore
02:02.17GillrisperLol...
02:02.23StanzillaCarto1 is the old version + a few bugfixes
02:02.25kebinusanlike for all the special chars that are usable in wow names
02:02.29sag_ich_nichtcreated for political reasons by retards to make a statement to other retards
02:02.40sag_ich_nichtboth of which nobody cares about
02:02.58sag_ich_nicht-FIN
02:03.28Xinhuandid ["J\195\165sper"] work?
02:03.28Xinhuanheh
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02:03.39kebinusanyeah let me check that first
02:03.40Xinhuannot really
02:03.40kebinusanheh
02:03.43ToastTheifHola
02:03.46GillrisperNow, I've installed cartographer, using wowace updater, and I choose the few extras I want to use.  But when I load WOW, the Mailboxes won't appear on either the mini-map or the fullmap.  And that's after I click on the mailbox to load it up.
02:03.59Xinhuanwow should understand UTF8
02:04.07Xinhuanso there shouldn't have been any issues in the first place
02:04.09Gillrisperto Look at my mail, actually.
02:04.34PrimerXinhuan: http://sh.nu/ss44.jpg and http://sh.nu/ss45.jpg
02:05.02Xinhuanawesome, does that rotate as you rotate?
02:05.08Primerall that's missing is the appending
02:05.15Primeryes, but it ends at the end of the graphic
02:05.20Xinhuanah
02:05.25Xinhuanso you need 2 textures then
02:05.29Primerwell, no
02:05.32Primerwell, yes
02:05.33Xinhuanto "stitch" it up
02:05.35kebinusan195\165spe...:1: attempt to index field 'JÃ¥sper' (a nil value), pretty much teh same error I get with the original name
02:05.41PrimerI mean, I need the same graphic, in 2 textures
02:05.52Xinhuanno primer
02:05.58Xinhuanyou need 1 graphic file
02:06.03Xinhuan2 ingame texture objects
02:06.03Primerright
02:06.04Xinhuan:)
02:06.10PrimerI thought I said that
02:06.12Primer:P
02:06.15Xinhuan;p
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02:06.28Xinhuanjust set height/width and text coord accordingly
02:06.29PrimerI wanted to make a quick video, but apparently gamecam doesn't work in Vista
02:06.41Xinhuanno need to
02:07.06Primerwant me to post the code I have so far?
02:07.13Xinhuannot really
02:07.23Xinhuanif it works, do i really care to look at it? ;d
02:08.00Primerbut..but...don't you WANT TO HAVE THIS!?!?
02:08.01Primerhehe
02:08.09Xinhuanwhat would i use it for? ;d
02:08.14Primerhttp://sh.nu/FlightHUD.zip <-- in case you change your mind
02:08.21Xinhuanmy minimap tells me perfectly which direction i'm facing!
02:08.22Gillrisperany idea why Trainers would show on the map, but not the vendors or mailboxes?
02:08.34Primereventually it'll have overlays that point to major points in the zone you're in
02:08.37Primereventually...
02:09.02KarlThePaganPrimer, oo that's kinda something that I might use
02:09.20GillrisperAnd just so everyone knows, the work you folks put into the AddOns is amazing - Hats off to the coders who make gaming easier for the rest of us.
02:09.28PrimerKarlThePagan: except it's not finished...it only works at certain angles
02:09.39Primerjust don't head east and you'll be fine
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02:12.42Xinhuani might use it when it has more features ;p
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02:16.23Gillrispershould I be installing the addons into the Cartographer folder, and not the Addons folder?
02:17.31dietm0rmoin
02:17.40dietm0rWAT JEDE
02:19.45KarlThePaganPrimer, got any screenshots?
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02:30.08GillrisperDoes Cartographer_Mailboxes work with the latest version of Cartographer?
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02:31.18kebinusananyone use morgdkp?
02:31.31XinhuanGillrisper, i don't know :)
02:31.51Xinhuanbut any addon you download that is not part of the cartographer core, should be installed as a "stand alone addon" like any other addon
02:31.58Xinhuandon't put them in carto's folder
02:32.14Xinhuanalso you need to restart wow fully everytime you add a new file to your addons\
02:32.21GillrisperThat's what I thought.  
02:32.23Xinhuanor wow won't see it
02:32.34GillrisperShould I install them one at a time?  
02:33.01GillrisperInstall Carto, then close WOW, install Mailboxes, close wow, etc.?
02:34.04GillrisperBecause Wow sees Cartographer_Mailboxes, but nothing show us up in the Cartographer Menu In-game
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02:37.16Perniciushi endeavour
02:37.34EndeavourHi Pernicius!
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02:45.12array{Endeavour}Pernicius, i'm really looking forward to see a new version of AtlasOfAzeroth
02:46.30Perniciusits in work ... its done when its done :P
02:46.48array{Endeavour}haha, reminds me of duke nukem forever :P
02:49.30CIA-4803pernicius 07pernicius * r59257 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
02:49.30CIA-48AtlasOfAzeroth:
02:49.30CIA-48- more code cleanup
02:50.06array{Endeavour}anyways, gotta get some sleep. cya tomorrow
02:50.23Perniciusgn8 ende
02:50.59kebinusancould someone take a look at this and help me figure out how to fix my problem, http://ace.pastebin.ca/870454
02:54.10JoshBorkekebinusan: it doesn't exist for some reason, dump out the table
02:54.29Xinhuan^
02:54.49Xinhuani typed /run abc = {["Advancèd"] = 1}
02:54.50Xinhuanin game
02:54.56kebinusank sec
02:54.59Xinhuanthen typed /print abc["Advancèd"]
02:55.02Xinhuanand it printed 1 just fine
02:55.09khanggmy cartographer's waypoint icons don't disappear when i reach the destination, making me manually clear it, but when i do it deletes all the waypoint icons :( and i occasionally get a cartographer_waypoints.lua error as well D:
02:55.25Shirik|Ecole*** Semantic Error: A candidate for type "DisplayManager" was found, but it is invalid and needs to be fixed before this type will successfully compile.
02:55.30Xinhuankhangg, how new is your _waypoints?
02:55.35Shirik|EcoleTranslation: Your code is wrong, but I'm not going to tell you what's wrong. Fix it.
02:55.35Xinhuanwhere did you download cartographer from
02:55.41kebinusanhow do I go about dumping the table in some fashion, its being read in from a lua file that gets updated from my dkp site
02:55.42khanggXinhuan, winaceupdater
02:55.52khanggWAU
02:56.12Xinhuanhmm i probably can't help you with the waypoint not clearing up
02:56.18khangg=(
02:56.21Xinhuanbut if you have the syntax error message, maybe
02:57.54khanggit's not popping up atm
02:59.21JoshBorkewhy is it that my 2.4 GHz quad core processor can't play a gd mkv file smoothly?
03:01.47khanggXinhuan, http://ace.pastey.net/81192
03:01.50PaeneJoshBorke: what player are you using?
03:01.53ckknightbecause you touch yourself at night
03:02.11JoshBorkePaene: vlc
03:02.19JoshBorkei've also tried movie player
03:02.22Paeneodd, I've never had a problem with VLC
03:02.46JoshBorkeit especially happens with movie player
03:02.48khanggkmplayer :D
03:02.58khanggkmplayer with cccp
03:03.14kebinusanyeah the problem seems to be with the output from my dkp site, which means I probably need to do some sort of char replacement before wow reads in the table
03:03.24JoshBorkekmplayer is just an interface for mplayer >_<
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03:03.45kebinusanis there an easy way to dump a dable to some file or screen so I can see what the contents look like in game
03:03.59khanggJoshBorke, the windows one
03:04.02Ellipsis/dump tablename
03:04.05JoshBorkeoh, i'm in linux
03:04.12khanggah
03:07.43Shirik|Ecolehrm
03:07.59JoshBorkeooo, maybe xine will work out...
03:08.05kebinusantry vlc
03:08.20JoshBorkevlc crashes on me
03:08.44kebinusanboo :-(
03:08.50JoshBorkeyea, it sucks balls
03:09.22Xinhuankhangg
03:09.23XinhuanCartographer_Waypoints\\Waypoints.lua:876: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value)
03:09.27Xinhuanwhen does that occur?
03:09.33khanggrandomly :S
03:09.39khanggmost of the time though it's when i log in
03:09.47RaydenUwoot
03:09.51RaydenUkilled prince
03:09.59Xinhuanalright, the error means that _Waypoints didn't load properly
03:10.12Xinhuandidn't initialized properly to be considered loaded to be more exact
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03:10.35Xinhuanthe second error is a result of the first error
03:10.57khangggrats RaydenU
03:11.01khanggXinhuan, solutions? :o
03:11.15Xinhuanmay i suggest you redownload cartographer from files.wowace.com?
03:11.19RaydenUwasn't my guild though
03:11.20RaydenUoh well
03:11.21RaydenU3 badges
03:11.24Xinhuanyou use WAU right?
03:11.28RaydenUand now i know a little bit of the fight
03:11.30Xinhuando you use embedded libraries
03:11.42RaydenUprince sucks as a shadow priest
03:11.43khanggXinhuan, uhh i install with externals
03:11.50RaydenUalthough i was still threat capped even without using MF
03:11.51Xinhuanhmm
03:12.00khanggXinhuan, i'll reinstall though
03:12.00Xinhuani suggest reinstalling it then, via WAU
03:12.04Xinhuanand see if that helps
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03:12.13Xinhuanit didn't load for some reason
03:13.25Xinhuanyou're installing Cartographer right? not Cartographer1
03:14.10khanggXinhuan, yeep
03:14.41Xinhuanrestart wow fully after reinstalling, hope that works
03:15.01khanggi hope so too :)
03:15.10Xinhuanif it doesn't, you can try looking in Logs\FrameXML.log
03:15.13Xinhuanto see if that helps
03:15.33khanggokay
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03:23.20khanggso far so good :)
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03:25.36potemkinhow do i
03:25.36khanggXinhuan, i think it may have been the savedvariable i had for it
03:25.40potemkinset the scale of a frame in xml
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03:26.15Xinhuanpossibly hehe
03:26.56Xinhuanpotemkin, scale="1.0" i think, but don't quote me on this, it could be wrong
03:27.19Xinhuanyou generally make a <OnLoad> handler and set it there
03:27.30Xinhuanthis:SetScale(1.0)
03:27.33potemkino
03:27.36potemkinthanks
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03:28.29khanggwhere can i learn lua? :o
03:29.21Ellipsis~pil
03:29.21purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
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03:31.27CIA-4803swimnurd * r59258 10AVqq/AVqq.lua:
03:31.27CIA-48AVqq:
03:31.27CIA-48- More bug fixes and now spams raid chat with the AV number that popped.
03:36.08Arrowmastermy friend is saying [22:26] illvm: if you do: %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t
03:36.12Arrowmasterbah
03:36.16Arrowmasterstupid paste
03:36.46Arrowmasterwell friend is saying doing '%t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t %t' in wow crashes the client
03:38.28buuThat's awesome.
03:38.33AntiarcIt's conceivable
03:38.42AntiarcThey may do only X number of replacements
03:39.17Xinhuandoes it really crash wow?
03:39.56Arrowmasteri wonder if maybe its because the string ends up longer than 256 (255? 254? i really dont remember or care) chars
03:40.15Xinhuandoes it really crash wow though? heh
03:40.45Arrowmasterno clue
03:40.48Arrowmastercrashed his
03:41.21Arrowmasteri know he uses prat though but i dont really think that would do it
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03:44.21MegalonArrowmaster: just tested it, wow was gone without any errormessage for me :o
03:45.06Megalonit was even faster than alt+f4 i think! ;D
03:46.19Xinhuanlol
03:46.32Megalonit was gone in an instant
03:46.36Megalonnice, i have to macro that one!
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03:47.18Megalonhaha, wanted to own a friend.. his reaction "wtf, wow never closes this fast, i think i'll use that from now to exit wow" lol
03:48.10Xinhuanif you exist that way, your settings don't get saved
03:48.14Xinhuan(that's why its so fast)
03:48.23Xinhuans/exist/exit/
03:48.47Arrowmasteryeah its like the old SendChatMessage("/n")
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03:53.20potemkinis there a difference between using \ and \\ when getting to a path like Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Background and Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background
03:53.33Xinhuanyes
03:53.34Arrowmasteryes
03:53.46kenlyrichow long should 3.50 gb be over USB2? this seems ass slow
03:53.49Xinhuanin xml, use \, in lua code use \\
03:53.56potemkino
03:53.59potemkinthx
03:54.22Arrowmasterin lua use "Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background" or [[Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Background]] or ignore me because i just confused you even more
03:54.53Arrowmasterholy fuck theres 6 priests in my guilds raid right now
04:00.54khanggany idea how i can fix [2008/01/23 23:00:27-31-x1]: Skillet-1.10-55300\TradeskillInfo.lua:56: Usage: GetTradeSkillInfo(index)
04:00.54khangg<in C code>: in function `CastSpell'
04:00.54khanggInterface\FrameXML\SpellBookFrame.lua:275: in function `SpellButton_OnClick':
04:00.54khangg<string>:"*:OnClick":4: in function <[string "*:OnClick"]:1>
04:00.54khangg<PROTECTED>
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04:09.57aestilso, did we discuss cloverfield in this channel?
04:10.38NightHawkTheSanedo we even care?
04:10.56NightHawkTheSaneor am i the only one in the world who doesnt
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04:11.15aestilno, probably not.  but i completely missed all the marketing for it, and went cause my wife wanted to.  i feel like if no one had seen or been hyped up due to the viral marketing, no one would have wanted to see it.
04:11.53NightHawkTheSaneprobably because it's just another crappy monster/horror/action film with no real plot to it?
04:12.05aestilthe lack of plot is the best thing it has going for it.
04:12.45aestilit failed on 2 counts, the atttempt at plot, and then the unnecsearily amaturish camera work.
04:13.11khanggit wasn't the greatest
04:13.26Arrowmasterthe nameless trailer for it before transformers was major marketing for it, i doubt the rest of it would have done much if it wasnt for that trailer
04:13.44kenlyricdidn't the also ignore every single piece of viral marketing?
04:13.59kenlyriclike, there were no mcshakes at all.
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04:25.42CIA-48DrDamage:
04:25.42CIA-48- Fixed holy fire coefficient
04:25.42CIA-48- Added new tooltip lines for hybrid spells; DPS and DPM spammed as opposed to rotational that is shown in the DPS line
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04:29.51RaydenUany of you use BattleChat?
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04:38.00chiperomg.  you know a run is doomed when your healer has to tank
04:39.27RaydenUonly if it's a priest
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04:40.02RaydenUwell
04:40.06chiperand then said tank has to heal itself because the shadow priest isnt fucking DPSing
04:40.06RaydenUespecially if it's a priest
04:41.10chiperput together a nice easy zf run.  3 45s, a 50, and a 65 shadow priest.  it should have gone nice and smooth
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04:41.56RaydenUi like ogres
04:41.57RaydenUthey do'nt run
04:42.24Ellipsisur mom runs lol
04:42.33chiperogre should be a new horde racial
04:42.44RaydenUtwo headed
04:42.47RaydenUthat was such a good idea
04:42.51Ellipsisur mom's the new horde racial
04:42.52chiperbecause taurens arent tall enough
04:42.53RaydenUmy sister runs.. marathons
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04:44.26NightHawkTheSanei keep wanting to play ff7 again
04:44.38NightHawkTheSanebut i keep realizing that i just don't have the patience for that anymore :(
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05:00.40kergothhttp://indexed.blogspot.com/2008/01/volatile-much.html
05:03.39RaydenUi just realized i should be looking for ZA pugs
05:03.49RaydenUit's annoying to do ZA pugs since my guild runs zA
05:03.53RaydenUer kara
05:03.58RaydenUbut we dont' run ZA
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05:20.40CIA-48BasicComboPoints: Add in GUI for options /bcp
05:20.40CIA-48TODO: font and color chooser
05:22.02RaydenUi wonder if doing low level quests is worth the time
05:22.14RaydenUwhat your xp/hr is doing low level vs your own level quests
05:22.27RaydenUless xp from mobs and from the quest itself
05:22.30RaydenUbut you do them really fast
05:23.14RaydenUoh
05:23.15RaydenUcrap
05:23.18RaydenUi forgot xp scales
05:23.28RaydenUi got 260 xp instead of 2000 or something from that quest
05:29.25theoddone33drdamage doesn't take my glove bonus into account :(
05:29.30theoddone332% crit to FoL
05:29.39theoddone33unless it does now
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05:57.57Funkeh`gn
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06:29.16Parnicwhat's the proper way to capture clicks on a StatusBar-derivative frame? RegisterForClicks is only available to Buttons
06:29.42Kivin:SetScript("OnClick", Handler)
06:29.49Parnicthat easy, eh? :P
06:29.53Kivinthat easy
06:30.03Parnicdon't have to worry about secure crap for a statusbar?
06:30.08Kivindoubt it
06:30.27KivinIt's just another frame
06:30.40Parnicthanks :)
06:31.04CIA-4803nargiddley 07Beta * r59271 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
06:31.04CIA-48Ace3 - AceConfig:
06:31.04CIA-48- Add width parameter to the Config table validator
06:31.04CIA-48- Add support for width to AceConfigDialog-3.0
06:31.14KivinThe purpose of RegisterForClicks is simply to enable/disable specific buttons, but the OnClick handler is available to all UIObject derivitaves
06:31.44Parnicgotcha
06:38.41Parniclooks like OnClick won't work for a StatusBar because OnClick is only for button-derivatives
06:38.46Parnicbut i got OnMouseUp to work with SetScript :)
06:38.52Parnicso that's what i needed
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06:46.23Orionshockquestion, in a meta table when is __index called? only when it dosn't exist or on every access?
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07:25.09Fisker-hey purl
07:25.09Fisker-FUCK YOU
07:25.09Fisker-[Ammo] you here? :O
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07:29.11Roathwhats the code for coloring text in LUA again? i red about it somewhere, but cant find it again
07:29.11krkaRoath: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
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07:32.32OrionshockRoath: http://www.johncfish.com/bggallery/otherchart/hextable.gif
07:32.40Roaththanks
07:32.48OrionshockRoath:  |cffXXXXText Here|r
07:33.09Roathah right, its two f's
07:33.49Fisker-yeah krka
07:33.54Fisker-Lua = Moonspeak lololol
07:35.27Elkanomorning Orionshock
07:35.36Orionshockhey Elkano
07:35.37Elkanofu Fisker- ;)
07:36.19Fisker-hai Elkano
07:38.01OrionshockElkano: fit you mind arround this : http://ace.pastey.net/81199
07:38.12CIA-4803kurax * r59272 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc burningcrusade.cn.lua):
07:38.12CIA-48AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:38.12CIA-48- Added zhCN loot tables localization
07:39.04CIA-4803kurax * r59273 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.cn.lua:
07:39.04CIA-48AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
07:39.04CIA-48- Added zhCN loot tables localization
07:39.47ElkanoOK, I should get to writing my own suggestion for the lib ;)
07:40.48Orionshockwell, im done with thinking about each others ideas, we got the fundamentals down.  im more into what functionally works.
07:40.50CIA-4803kurax * r59274 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc rep.cn.lua):
07:40.50CIA-48AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
07:40.50CIA-48- Added zhCN loot tables localization
07:41.21Orionshockim more than happy to give you access to my google code, or we can make another one... so that we can commit to it what actualy works best.
07:42.50CIA-4803kurax * r59275 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (5 files):
07:42.50CIA-48AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
07:42.50CIA-48- Added zhCN loot tables localization
07:43.08Elkanobtw: I noticed that displays like MoneyFu aren't possible with our approach but don't I think that hurts much
07:43.30CIA-4803kurax * r59276 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (3 files):
07:43.30CIA-48AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:
07:43.30CIA-48- Added zhCN loot tables localization
07:43.33Orionshockhow so?
07:48.03Arrowmastera number of current fubar plugins wouldnt be possible if the reason i think it is
07:51.34Orionshock.. method 1) source takes care of it'self all it get's is the anchor frame. method2) it passes the data to the display addon and the display addon figures it out from there.
07:52.14Orionshockdid i miss something that would not be covered by those 2 situations?
07:53.25Elkanowell, only giving out the nchor frame can lead to inconsistent behaviour of the display
07:53.51Orionshocksuch as?  and don't tell me like tooltip fade , that's total bs
07:54.17Elkanowell, eg how you anchor relative to that frame
07:54.27Orionshock<PROTECTED>
07:54.55Orionshockwrong one...
07:55.00Orionshocki'll think of it
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07:55.59Orionshockthere we go
07:56.27OrionshockElkano: even so, so the display passes a relative point as the 2nd arg
07:56.39ElkanoI'd go for OnTooltipShow() returning a frame which the display anchors and OnTooltipHide() returning boolean if the display should continue to hide (else the model addon will have to hide)
07:57.12Elkanoif OnTooltipHide() isn't present the display will allways simply hide
07:57.23Orionshockhold up...
07:57.31Orionshockyour thinking fubar about this...
07:58.06Roathif i make a function like this "local ThisFunction = function(...) blablabla...etc... end" will it then work if i just call it like ThisFunction(); ? i dont have access to wow, so cant test it like i want :(
07:58.30OrionshockOnTTShow(frame, relpoint) is called not to init the tooltip, but to simply tell the source to show it's tooltip, what ever that might be.... it's not the display's problem what the tooltip is. just to provide the anchor frame and the relpoint
07:58.44OrionshockRoath: yes
07:58.53Roathok, thanks
07:59.04Arrowmasterthat sounds like a bad system imho
07:59.26Orionshockok, explain your thoughts
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08:01.51Arrowmasterthe addons would then be responsible for stuff like anchoring the tooltips instead of the display
08:02.04Orionshock&? that addon opt'ed to do so
08:02.07Arrowmasteralso as i was typing i thought of something
08:02.37Arrowmasterwait maybe im confused
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08:02.47Elkanobtw: one callbackhandler for the lib or one per data object? what do you think?
08:02.48papyross
08:03.04Arrowmasterso the display is providing the relpoint?
08:03.33Orionshockmethod 1, it's a BYOB you get to cook it too; method 2 the source provides the tooltip data inthe form of a call back or table and then the display get's to sort it all out
08:03.40Orionshockboth can be supported
08:04.08Orionshockif one display addon dosn't want to support source tt's then you should have another one that will...
08:04.27Arrowmasterim just thinking of the issue we had when we switched bigwigs to not using tablet for its tooltip
08:04.44OrionshockElkano: CBH cannot handle mulit-teir'ed callbacks with out some Voodoo
08:04.47Arrowmasterand ended up with positioning code in bigwigs then for anchoring
08:04.54Arrowmasterand then it got moved into FBP
08:06.35OrionshockElkano: when a display goes to exe an on click callback for a source, we don't want the "onClick" firing for each and every source out there
08:07.59Orionshockand ...imo CBH is ... confusing.... just why the hell would you protected call each and every call back??
08:08.46Orionshockbad code is bad code == hello error
08:09.15PrimerI'm at a loss as to how to proceed with my mod
08:09.17Elkanowhat do you mean with 'multi-tiered' callbacks? it's the decisison between dataobject.callbacks:Fire("attribut_changed", 'attribut') and lib.callbacks:Fire("attribut_changed", 'dataobject_id', 'attribut')
08:09.56PrimerI have it mostly working, but I'm having to jump through some hoops to get around some "issues" with SetTexCoord()
08:09.59Orionshockyou misunderstand that particular line.
08:10.03Elkanothe onclick stuff isn't ment for callback anyways I think
08:10.15Orionshockthat one is firing to the display registry that a source attrib changed.
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08:10.55Elkanoor at least not for cbh
08:11.20OrionshockElkano: how else, there is no explicit method, all of this is loosely fitted together by  a spec
08:12.05Orionshockand tbh Tekkub is right, using a lib is OP and prolly be better off in a _G table....
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08:12.43PrimerXinhuan: you around? I was hoping to bounce some ideas off you regarding my addon
08:13.06Grumwhat would be your addon? :D
08:13.18Primerhttp://sh.nu/ss44.jpg
08:13.31OrionshockPrimer: thinking of that....
08:13.32ElkanoOrionshock, the lib is almost like a _G table but also provides a few functions every display addon would have to implement otherways imho
08:14.24PrimerOrionshock: yes?
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08:14.36Grumah you got it working, nice
08:14.42Grumwhat was the problem? :P
08:14.53OrionshockPrimer: i was going to poke Nargiddley in the eye about how my GUI setup won't actualy be a GUI but just an empty window...
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08:15.21cladhaireOrionshock: one callback handler shouldn't take down the entire callback iteration.. that can seriously fuck things
08:15.35OrionshockElkano: yes, we're seperating Fu from Bar, and Titan from Panel
08:15.58Orionshockcladhaire: ... you have a point...
08:16.01PrimerGrum
08:16.03Primererr
08:16.18PrimerGrum: well, the HUD is a graphic, and it has to "wrap" somehow
08:16.23Orionshock...oh nevermind...
08:16.31cladhairethe error still fires, but the other 10 addons responding to the same callback still continue to work
08:17.00Primerwhich won't be that hard, but the problem I'm encountering is that when I enter negative coordinates into SetTexCoord(), it stretches the texture instead of truncating it
08:17.05cladhairebefore Tem added that to the event/library system for Ace2.. everything broke everytime someone made a stupid ass mistake in a library
08:17.42Temie, every 15 minutes
08:17.42Orionshocki could see how that would be come problematic
08:17.43PrimerI'm hoping to avoid having to move the edge of the graphic to accommodate for the stretching
08:17.46Arrowmasteryeah one person fuck up a fubar plugin and all of fubar would be fucked up
08:18.05Temit was awesome
08:19.02ArrowmasterFisker-: http://kotaku.com/348187/ea-calls-fox-out-on-insulting-mass-effect-inaccuracies
08:19.12cladhairetem got sick of the shit, after reporting it a bunch of times, and fix it himself.
08:19.16cladhairethank god.
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08:21.09ElkanoOrionshock, and that's why I was thinking about using cbh for informing the displays since I suppose that it's safe to use
08:21.41Elkanofor the display informing a data object about clicks CBH isn't needed since it's a one on one relation
08:21.47Orionshockya, that pastey has that implemented
08:22.11Orionshockonly 2 lib2display calls atm, OnNewSource, and OnAttribChanged
08:22.20Elkanobut I currently wonder if I should use one central cbh or stick one into each data object
08:22.54Orionshockcould always use my origional idea for the display2source, and cbh for the other way
08:22.56Orionshock....
08:22.58Orionshockafk
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08:50.57Orionshock... oy, first pull of SSC and half the raid dead -.-
08:52.45[Ammo]haha
08:52.58[Ammo]new to ssc? or just slackers?
08:53.05Orionshockbit of both
08:54.55KalrothI remember the first trash packs, they rock
08:57.24CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59277 10GuildFilter/ (GuildFilter.lua GuildFilter.toc):
08:57.24CIA-48GuildFilter: Drycoding
08:57.24CIA-48- Better AddonLoader handling
08:57.24CIA-48- Temp slashcommand for filtering.
08:57.24CIA-48- Still does nothing
08:58.13Fisker-Any timeframe on when we might see oRA3?
08:58.25TemNEVER
08:59.09Orionshockwhat version of threat/ace-com2 has the patch?
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09:00.11[Ammo]Fisker-: shrug, dunno
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09:00.18[Ammo]the readycheck stuff in oRA3 works pretty well atm
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09:07.33CIA-4803merl * r59278 10/branches/mHud/ (89 files in 29 dirs):
09:07.33CIA-48mHud:
09:07.33CIA-48- Alpha branch
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09:24.11Orionshockwoot got the pattern for  [Belt of Deep Shadow]
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09:26.56NargiddleyOrionshock, what was the problem with AceGUI earlier ?
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09:27.07Orionshocktree won't display at all
09:27.32Orionshockno combonation of wtf will make it work
09:27.38Nargiddleypastey the code
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09:28.58Orionshockhttp://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/GuildCraft/GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUI.lua
09:29.01Orionshock-.-
09:29.30GrumGuildCraft? :P
09:29.36_Merl_Nargiddley: The current rev seem to work fine :)
09:29.37Grumrecording what people in the guild can craft?
09:29.57Nargiddleyis this that error you told me about a couple days ago Orionshock ?
09:30.07ElkanoOrionshock, what do you think of this as a data object? http://pastey.net/81201
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09:30.40Nargiddleyand wtf are you using list with a treegroup for
09:30.43GrumNargiddley: i know you are prolly busy .. but we (Routes coders) would reaaaaly love that multiselect dropdown ^^
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09:30.53Nargiddleyand its 'fill' not 'Fill' and list doesnt use it :P
09:31.38Orionshock__...got d/c'
09:31.40Orionshock__ed
09:31.58NargiddleyI see maybe 4 things wrong at a quick glance
09:32.18Orionshock__why thank you :D, what where the first 3?
09:33.06Nargiddleylist wont handle a tree group unless you give it a height, tree lists wont work unless you set height = 'fill' or give them a height, its 'fill' not 'Fill', and you dont really want to put controls after the group in the layout
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09:34.42NargiddleyGrum, thats a really low priority and not going to happen untill after AceConfigDropdown is finished
09:34.42Nargiddley(which isnt started yet)
09:35.18Grumhmmm double-width elements? :P
09:35.18Nargiddleywell that, I comitted about 2 hours ago
09:35.18Grum\o/
09:35.18Grumupdated wiki docs?
09:35.18Grumif so i'll go and fix code :)
09:35.18Nargiddley'half' 'double' 'full'
09:35.18Nargiddleyand yes
09:35.18Grumcool, thanks a lot :)
09:35.18Nargiddleyunder common parameters
09:35.40Grumhow did you intend on it being used?
09:35.55Grumfor example, if i use it on a group will it apply to all below it?
09:36.04Nargiddleyno
09:36.06Grumk
09:36.11Nargiddleybut I could easily make it inherit like that
09:36.16Grummultiselect - it will apply on all elements?
09:36.30Nargiddleyit applys to the checkboxes, the group is already full width
09:36.44Grumk - thanks a lot :)
09:36.57OrionshockNargiddley: "you dont really want to put controls after the group in the layout" ?
09:37.28Nargiddleytheres no layout that will auto size things done like that
09:37.59Nargiddleythe group will have to have a fixed height
09:38.22Grum<JoshBorke> why is it that my 2.4 GHz quad core processor can't play a gd mkv file smoothly? <-- use the right codecs, CoreAVC (not free but findable) gives the best performance *but* is windows only
09:39.02OrionshockNargiddley: not auto sizing it?
09:39.24Nargiddleythe way a group is auto sized is to anchor it to the bottom of its container and stop adding more controls
09:41.50neeneejoshborke - just play it with mplayer
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09:43.35Grumneenee: the player doesnt matter at all
09:43.39Grumthe codec is all that matters
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09:43.59Grumffdshow is not the fastest around for that format
09:44.14Grum(and i blindly assume the mkv has a x264 codec inside btw)
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09:45.37ckknightGrum: matter matters
09:45.57neeneeWell, if it's for playing and not on windows, mplayer should do fine for mkv. But if the mkv was encoded very badly, there's no helping it on any platform
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09:48.04Grumckknight: did more licking?
09:48.28ckknighthehe
09:49.50Elkanoneenee, going DotA? ;)
09:50.03XinhuanNargiddley, what are the valid options for width=?
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09:50.14Nargiddleydouble, half, full
09:50.18neeneeDotA ?
09:50.26neeneeDead on... something Arrival?
09:50.26Xinhuanhmm ok
09:51.37Fisker-hmm
09:51.55Fisker-i wonder what would happen if it were possible to reach a negative attack speed
09:51.55Fisker-:D
09:52.14Fisker-probably pime taradox o shi-
09:52.44thulDOTA
09:52.54neenee...
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09:58.49Elkanoneenee, Defense of the Ancients -> http://www.dota-allstars.com/ <- most likely the most played WC3 custom map
09:59.01thul:-D
10:00.02Fisker-!ap 435
10:00.02ThraeBotFisker-: Arena points from a rating of 435 is, 2v2: 83, 3v3: 96, 5v5: 109
10:00.11Fisker-err
10:00.16Fisker-!rating 435
10:00.17Xinhuan435 rating gives 109(5s), 96(3s) and 83(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
10:00.27Fisker-!points 435
10:00.28Xinhuan435 arena points require 1577(5s), 1622(3s) and 1677(2s) team rating.
10:00.31Fisker-kthx
10:06.41CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59281 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua: GuildFilter: resolve some drycoding errors
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10:08.04Primer!rating 1600
10:08.05Xinhuan1600 rating gives 465(5s), 409(3s) and 353(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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10:26.22KivinWhat the heck is "BG9"?
10:26.32thulbattleground 9?
10:26.38KivinI've never seen the numbered
10:26.41nevcairielbattlegroup i guess
10:26.42KalrothIt's where all the US assholes gathered
10:26.56Kivingather[ed]?
10:27.01thulit is a very "famous"
10:27.11Kivinwhere did it get the number nine from?
10:27.20thulit is the ninth bg group?
10:27.27KalrothBattlegroups used to have numbers, before they got the names.
10:27.27Kivinagain, i've never seen them numbered
10:27.30Kivinoic
10:27.51Kivini ws around at day 1 of battlegroups but i don't seem to remember that
10:28.36Kivin~fail kivin
10:28.36purlkivin: Fail.
10:29.23ShenDKrandom quote, "With the best teams from many BGs (Reckoning for example) transfering to Cyclone, I think it is safe to say that Cylone is or will become very soon the BG9 of Europe."
10:29.45KalrothShenDK: Yeah, I read that. I'm in that battlegroup :/
10:30.16thulmaybe I should transfer there :-D
10:30.20SroshI'm not - and I like that. :P
10:30.43Kalrothhttp://www.sk-gaming.com/content/15525-European_Battlegroup_Project
10:30.51ShenDKwhere do you see your bg name?
10:31.18Kalrothhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/ for US players
10:31.38Kalrothhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/battlegroups.html for EU players
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10:32.48ShenDKah phew.. Nightfall :)
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10:36.07CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59283 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua:
10:36.07CIA-48GuildFilter:
10:36.07CIA-48- Filter using OR, this will change to AND though.
10:36.07CIA-48- Still no visual workings :)
10:36.40ElkanoOrionshock?
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10:38.02Elkanoseen the pastey I posted you earlier?
10:39.56Kivinwow, i managed to make 22 arrows last 3/4 of an EOS
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10:45.26CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59284 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua: GuildFilter: drycode use AND check.
10:47.20Orionshock...gg interwebs being homo tonight
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10:50.22Gorbulasis anyone else unable to reach WoW?
10:50.30Gorbulasmy traceroute ends at att-level3-oc192.NewYork1.Level3.net
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10:50.56GorbulasI was trying to finish an instance and went link dead
10:51.43Gorbulasthe group was already mad at me because I brought my friend and he was taking a long time to get there
10:52.49SunTsuGorbulas: Then tell them on ts/vent/forum
10:53.06Gorbulascan you get to the WoW forums?
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10:55.20GorbulasI can't reach anyone on ventrilo because they all went to bed
10:56.13nevcairielmaybe you should do that too then ,)
10:56.52KalrothGorbulas: You sound like a true PUGer!
10:56.56Gorbulasbut I don't want to abandon my group. I just want to know if other people can reach WoW
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10:59.38KivinAny SVN-proficient people around that mind helping me branch an addon?
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11:02.47Arrowmasteri think at&t shit a brick again
11:04.57CIA-4803kivin * r59286 10/branches/KivinSpamGuard/ (11 files in 4 dirs): KivinSpamGuard: Live r59199 Copy to Ace3 Branch.
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11:05.18Gorbulasmy opinion too
11:05.57CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59287 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua:
11:05.57CIA-48GuildFilter:
11:05.57CIA-48- Working now.
11:05.57CIA-48- usage: /guildfilter <string>
11:05.57CIA-48- example: /guildfilter warlock 70
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11:05.58CIA-48- next up, gui inputbox and remove slashcommand
11:06.11GorbulasI shouldn't see anything on traceroute if my equipment is bad unless it's ignoring incoming traffic from hosts after the last one visible
11:06.24Pkekyo|wrkpOOk O.o
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11:08.42Pkekyo|wrkmeh, some piece of shit here is downloading porn like a madman and slowing down the 100mbit connection >.<
11:09.37thulp00r Pkekyo|wrk  :-P
11:09.52Pkekyo|wrkagreed
11:09.52ArrowmasterGorbulas: tracert on us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com and us.version.worldofwarcraft.com
11:10.05Pkekyo|wrktrying to watch a movie through streaming...hate that bastard
11:10.12Pkekyo|wrkif only I knew who it was
11:10.27Arrowmasteri remember that the actual wow servers block icmp but perty sure the rest of the stuff doesnt
11:10.41Arrowmasterand both thoes tracerts stop at interesting places
11:10.56Gorbulastraceroute is udp, but WoW blocks it at some LAX address
11:10.56Arrowmasteratleast for me
11:11.33Gorbulasus.logon.worldofwarcraft.com is stopping at att-level3-oc192.NewYork1.Level3.net(missed three hops so far)
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11:12.23Gorbulasfixed
11:12.28Gorbulasthe route just changed
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11:12.59Arrowmasterfor me login is stoping at ggr2-p3110.cgcil.ip.att.net which is just after ae-24-52.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net
11:12.59Arrowmasterand version stoping at att-level3-oc192.Washington1.Level3.net
11:12.59Gorbulasatt-level3-oc192.NewYork1.Level3.net no longer appears in tracerouten
11:12.59Gorbulasroutes
11:13.31GorbulasI'm back on
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11:13.54Arrowmastermy routing didnt change but it started working again
11:14.10Arrowmasterlooks like some fuckup at att's links to other networks
11:14.23Gorbulasagain(they did this days ago
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11:15.05Arrowmasterlol
11:15.30Arrowmasterwhy the fuck does version and logon get routed differently yet the goto the exact same fucking location
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11:16.05Gorbulasthe route changed on me
11:16.35capullowrong, you get a complete different IP-roundrobin list for both hosts
11:16.37Arrowmasterits not for me
11:16.43Gorbulasthe second traceroute to logon showed a different address and then the first traceroute started showing addresses again
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11:17.08Arrowmasterdifferent final servers but theyre connected to the same router
11:17.13Gorbulasfor me all the destination IPs are 12.129.193.*
11:17.31capullologon has 12.129. IPs
11:17.51capulloversion 12.129.* and 206.16.22.*
11:18.46Arrowmastergetting switched from level3 to att's network at chiago for one and washington for the other
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11:19.02Arrowmasterbut theyre connected to the same router at the end
11:19.49capullonope
11:20.17Gorbulasthe friend I brought to the group didn't get disconnected and says the group is terrible and that I should be glad I'm missing it
11:20.20capullolast working hop has different IPs
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11:21.27Arrowmasterfor me the 3 hops before the last are the same on both
11:21.37Arrowmastertheyre hosted at the same location
11:22.08Pkekyo|wrkI hate this piece of shit autoaway crap
11:23.11capullowhats the problem with the traceroute?
11:23.34Arrowmasterit was stoping at the links between level3 and att
11:24.03capullothere is no level3 in my traceroute :P
11:24.33Arrowmasterwell your not tracerouting from my isp are you
11:24.41capullonope, from germany :P
11:24.52capullo130ms latency
11:25.01thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRR8lqlpU68&
11:25.14Arrowmasteri get bounced through level3 for almost everything
11:25.25GorbulasI think it's funny that the problems could actually be level3's fault, but at&t is involved and is a much more well known name so at&t will take all the blame
11:25.55Arrowmasteri doubt its level3's
11:26.09Gorbulasyeah, I'd blame at&t first
11:26.19Roathanyone know what the XML file the shapeshiftbar uses? cant seem to find it
11:26.31ArrowmasterRoath: bonusactionbar
11:26.36Roaththanks
11:26.37capullohttp://ace.pastey.net/81203
11:26.44capullothats from germany
11:28.28Arrowmasterwell i can spot the transatlantic connection easyly
11:28.47Roathi got this irritating border around each stance button on my shapeshiftbar, i hid all the art, but cant figure out how to remove them >.< any suggestions?
11:29.00Gorbulasyou have a better connection than I do
11:29.25Gorbulasfrom my router it's 18 hops to attens.net
11:29.42Roathhttp://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9671/stancebarrightou0.jpg
11:29.52Roathyou can see the irritating border on that screenshot
11:29.58capullowe have many peerings here from work
11:30.11Gorbulasand I'm in the US -.-
11:30.15Arrowmaster17 hops for me, although hop 1 is my home router
11:31.10Arrowmasterhop 5 is the last one before im finally out of my isp and onto the backbones
11:31.12Gorbulasyou should use png because jpg might ignore subtle transparency(if that's what you're trying to show)
11:32.06Orionshockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_012408_043043.jpg
11:32.14Orionshockthat's what it looks like
11:32.45capulloGorbulas: we also host websites in the USA :P
11:32.52Gorbulasthe first three on mine are my ISP, then I go through at four level three hops before seven at&t hops
11:33.02capulloso we have a dedicated connection to the usa
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11:33.47Gorbulasare there any peer to peer distributed file systems for WoW?
11:34.06Grumeuuh?
11:34.08CIA-4803pb_ee1 * r59290 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Fixing erroneous key itemid for Karazhan.
11:34.11capulloplease?
11:34.22GrumBlizzard uses torrents to distribute patches
11:34.48Roathfor their movies too
11:34.50Gorbulasif I had a P2P DFS addon I could have lots of stuff hosted over the guild addon channel
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11:34.59CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59291 10Mapster/Locale/ (8 files): Mapster: add empty locale files, translators can work on those now :)
11:35.19Gorbulasforums, calendars, etc…
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11:37.36Grumomg wrong channel
11:37.51Ellipsislulz
11:37.56Roathfor popcorn?
11:38.01thulI'm throwing away like 5 bags of clothes today
11:38.03Roath:P
11:38.07thulI feel like a use-and-throw-away capitalist:P
11:38.11Gorbulasso, no DFS library?
11:38.16GrumDFS?
11:38.21GrumDistributed FS?
11:38.23Gorbulasdistributed file system
11:38.25Gorbulasyes
11:38.26GrumGorbulas: its a game O.o
11:38.43thulwhy would wow have dfs? :-P
11:38.47thulwhy.. indeed
11:38.56Gorbulasbut if I was going to make a group calendar or something I would want a DFS system
11:39.04Grumwhy?
11:39.42Gorbulasso it works even when the person who created the event or whatever is offline
11:40.03Roathdoes anyone know how to remove the borders around the stance/shapeshift buttons you see here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full11233.jpg
11:40.14GrumGorbulas: there is no way of doing that
11:40.22Grumwow doesnt allow you to store data ingame
11:40.38Grumoh that is not correct
11:40.42Gorbulasyou store the data in the clients and sync it when you see each other
11:40.47Grumyou can send someone a text email
11:40.55Grumand store the email somewhere :P
11:41.26GrumGorbulas: that is already being done by any calender mod
11:41.28Gorbulasneeds data signing(which I have seen a library for)
11:41.42Grumthe only downside of it that you reaaaaaaaly need to watch the amount of data you spam around
11:42.19Roathups, my previous question had the wrong adress, its this one that shows the border: http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9671/stancebarrightou0.jpg
11:44.19OrionshockGorbulas: that idea is such a horrendous mess...
11:44.28Orionshockthe functionality behind GC
11:44.30GrumRoath: use one of the many many many bar addons this world knows
11:44.41Roathim making my own :P
11:44.50Grumthen still - look at them
11:44.52Grumsee how they handle it
11:45.00Roathaah, right
11:46.08Grumits just a background texture
11:46.10Roathany simple bar addon you can recommend i check? very new to lua, so dont want to get lost :P
11:46.24GrumBartender/Flexbar2/Bongos
11:46.28Grumjust to name some :)
11:46.32Roathi know, but i cant find it in the XML file, want to hide it, but dont know its name
11:47.03Grum/print GetMouseFocus()::GetName() -- while mouseovering on it? :P
11:47.20Grum(that should work .. lol .. wayback memory stuff)
11:48.03Gorbulasthe Visor2GUI tool has a button for that
11:48.39Gorbulasbe careful though because the GUI messes up my layout if I select certain frames
11:49.32Roathgrum: i did that, but i just get WorldFrame returned, as if it doesn't even excist
11:50.14Ellipsisthen it doesn't catch mouse events
11:50.20Gorbulasactually the way visor2gui does it might not work because it just scans for lua globals iirc
11:52.32Roathchecking bartender and bongos didn't help much, couldn't understand a thing of it
11:53.41KivinAny Ace3 Devs around?
11:54.08OrionshockRoath: if your looking to write you own action bar addon, start with trying to understand "SecureActionBarTemplate" from the FrameXML folder
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11:54.54OrionshockGrum / Roath GetMouseFocus() only works for clickable objects not click-through objects
11:55.15Roathcant find the file SecureActionBarTemplate
11:55.30Orionshock..it's in the secure templates file iirc
11:55.45Roathok
11:56.34Orionshockhttp://wdnaddons.com/0337799/FrameXML/SecureTemplates.lua
11:56.49Orionshock~line 168
11:58.28Roathim not going to make new buttons, all i do is move the standard blizzard actionbars around and hide/scale artwork
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11:59.12KivinAnyone here that's familiar with AceDB-3.0?
11:59.18nevcairielyea
11:59.24KivinI just can't figure out how to operate it
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11:59.56OrionshockKivin: it's not an embedable lib
11:59.58nevcairielwhy is that?
12:00.00Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81205 <- Where to from there?
12:00.34nevcairieljust use "db.profile.MyKeyHere", like in Ace2
12:00.52nevcairielhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-3.0
12:00.55Kivinalright, i never used ace2, went straight to rock... thats' why i'm crawling.  
12:02.11Orionshocktbh, the methods between them shouldn't be all that different... both build on the same Ace2 fundamental...
12:02.26GrumOrionshock: aah true
12:03.22CIA-4803whitetooth * r59292 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
12:03.22CIA-48StatLogicLib:
12:03.22CIA-48- Added heal and spell damage parsing in French
12:03.24KivinI take it setting the entire .profile key to a new table would be a bad thing?
12:03.37OrionshockKivin: yes
12:03.44Orionshockthat's where defaults come in
12:04.01Kivinself.db:ResetProfile(), i guess
12:04.08Orionshock<PROTECTED>
12:05.21Orionshockthe documentation dosn't explain defaults very well
12:07.04Kivinif i :Enable or :Disable() my addon, will that state be remembered on the next uireload?
12:07.18Orionshockno
12:07.38Orionshockiirc
12:07.44KivinAlright, then I'm ignoring it completely and just using a database entry, then
12:08.48ckknightKivin: in Rock, you mean?
12:08.57Kivinckknight: Toying around with ace3
12:09.04ckknightoh, okay then
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12:09.18ckknightI know Rock saves the state and you had mentioned it prior
12:09.30Kivinyeah
12:11.11CIA-4803pettigrow 07Ace3 * r59293 10Mapster/ (Locale/frFR.lua Mapster.toc): Mapster: frFR Update
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12:13.17Kivinsigh, daily heroic is arcatraz for the fourth day running
12:13.41CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59294 10Mapster/Mapster.toc: Mapster: add all locale files to the .toc
12:14.21OrionshockKivin: 2 words: "Fuck That!"
12:14.36nevcairielKivin: no you have to trackt he enable state yourself, AceDB/AceAddon doesnt do that for you. Generally, we recover that state during the OnInitialize
12:15.25nevcairielVery easy code for yourself todo, quite complicated if AceDB would do that for you. So we decided that you can do that
12:15.34OrionshockKivin: Ace3 = Sanity Check
12:17.57KivinAll I want is Cenarius premades to go to hell
12:18.14SroshIs there a reason Babble is needed if your run a enUS/GB client?
12:18.20Srosh*you
12:18.36EllipsisKivin: whose premade?
12:18.50KivinEllipsis: Beats me.  Cenarius.  They're all the same to me.
12:18.56KivinI'm sitting off grid waiting for it to end.
12:19.00Ellipsisnot true at all
12:19.51thulbahbahhahaha
12:20.54CIA-4803cwdg * r59295 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
12:20.54CIA-48LibRockConfig-1.0:zhCN update
12:20.54CIA-48do not add unnecessary locale author info plz
12:20.54Kivinfrom the zone map, it looks like they're farming the respawns in the gy
12:21.43Orionshockoh no... translators in core libs again....
12:22.37Arrowmasteroh no... translators in core libs again.... and its one that likes to plaster his name all over giving credit to himself for the translation
12:22.43Gorbulasthey're translating all the comments so nobody understands anymore
12:23.37Orionshocki found something odd the other day, and rather funny, le me go dig it up...
12:24.00Stan_Arrowmaster: the odd thing is...he just removed those attention whore comments :O
12:24.12Stan_see http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua?r1=59224&r2=59295
12:24.22Arrowmasterlol
12:24.25Orionshockhttp://titanpanel.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Titan/libs/
12:24.28Orionshockthere it is
12:24.41Gorbulasthat encoding is not unicode
12:24.43Stan_lol
12:24.51Arrowmasterfish doesnt do unicode
12:24.51Stan_Gorbulas: fisheye fails at UTF-8
12:24.59Arrowmasterso does the wowace forums
12:25.15Gorbulasthe beginning of the file looks like UTF-16 to me
12:25.29Gorbulashas a byte order mark?
12:25.37Arrowmasterutf8 has a bom too
12:26.19thulhaha
12:26.23Gorbulasoh I'm used to seeing it only on utf16
12:26.43Orionshock...
12:27.41CIA-4803whitetooth * r59296 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua:
12:27.41CIA-48TipHookerLib:
12:27.41CIA-48- Added TooltipExchange support
12:28.54ckknightanyone find it absurd that Titan is using Rock?
12:29.08Orionshocki knew someone would catch that....
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12:30.13Kivinsince when did titan use rock
12:31.07ckknightapparently just the Timer lib, though
12:31.18ckknightmust not want to do it himself
12:31.18Arrowmasterhttp://titanpanel.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Titan/TitanPanel.lua
12:31.26Arrowmaster-- Register Titan Panel with RockTimer-1.0
12:31.26ArrowmasterTitanPanel = Rock:NewAddon("TitanPanel", "LibRockTimer-1.0")
12:31.33hasteisn't dreadlorde or whatever writing on it?
12:32.02Orionshock1/20/2008 is when the svn reversion went in
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12:33.49Orionshockimo if they use rock lib u'd think they'd atleast read it and find out how much easier  obj:Method() code is to just read
12:33.57CIA-4803phyber * r59297 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
12:33.57CIA-48XPBarNone:
12:33.57CIA-48- Change how we get _G.
12:34.40ckknightOrionshock: lern2english
12:35.04Orionshock:D sorry, i talk to idiots all day long and it rubs off
12:35.35ckknightand you have become what you sought out to destroy
12:35.37ckknightno?
12:35.38ckknight:-P
12:35.43Arrowmasterckknight: fyi it looks like library upgrading in rock is still sorta broken
12:35.55ckknighthow so?
12:36.05Arrowmasterlocal MINOR_VERSION = tonumber(("$Revision$"):match("(%d+)")) - 100000
12:36.14ckknightoh yea
12:36.15Orionshockno i have become that what i despise
12:36.48Ellipsisand in turn, we all despise you!
12:36.51Ellipsis:D
12:36.54CIA-4803phyber * r59298 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Inspect.lua):
12:36.54CIA-48Fizzle:
12:36.54CIA-48- Change how we get _G.
12:36.58[Ammo]how friendly :)
12:37.16Orionshockseriously i can feel the brotherly love here...
12:37.43Ellipsiswell what can I say, I'm just a nice girl like taht
12:37.46[Ammo]she's a little girl, she doesn't know any better
12:37.48[Ammo]:p
12:37.58Ellipsis:o
12:38.35Ellipsisphysically little perhaps
12:38.36OrionshockOh! Ellipsis is a /female/ IRL... well... that explains /a lot/ about her comment.
12:38.56Orionshock:P
12:39.03ckknightyea, she's like 5'
12:39.13thulhahaha
12:39.13thulsmall
12:39.15thulSMALL!
12:39.16ckknightstill sexeh, though
12:39.17thulmhhahahahahaha
12:39.20Ellipsis=[
12:39.21Arrowmasteris there something wrong with 'local _G = getfenv(0)'?
12:39.27Ellipsiswhat I lack in size I make up for in cuteness
12:39.28thulI'm like 6"2 :-P
12:39.29Ellipsisamirite?
12:39.34thulI wouldn't know
12:39.35ckknightArrowmaster: local _G = _G would be faster
12:39.37thulbut I know that I'm cute
12:39.38thul:-D
12:39.49ckknightthul: I doubt _as_ cute
12:39.55Roathcan you bind a key to open the petition window as a standard, or do i have to add that to the keybindings menu (have no access to wow, so cant check)
12:40.01thulckknight: pfft
12:40.03thulyou haeven't seen me :-P
12:40.14ckknightbut I've seen Ellipsis
12:40.23ckknightwe're on the same bed right now :-P
12:40.28thulbut still
12:40.29thulnot me
12:40.29thul:-D
12:42.00thulIll upload:P
12:42.33JoshBorkeinterwebs are serious business
12:42.49Roathcan anyone check is blizzard has added the petition to the keybindings menu so that you can bind a key to it? i dont have wow where i am, and would like to know if i have to add a keybinding for it
12:45.05thulhttp://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/avatar.jpg <- I'm cute as a puppy
12:45.15JoshBorkeroath:  doesn't appear to be there
12:45.21JoshBorkebut then i didn't look super duper close at it
12:45.33Roathill double check when i get home :)
12:47.37ckknightthul: I think I'll stick with Ellipsis
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12:48.01[Ammo]but you haven't even see what thul can do with his tongue and throat
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12:49.31GorbulasI just lost an AB. There was a warrior in there wearing just a robe and a two handed sword…
12:49.40CIA-4803kagaro * r59300 10/branches/GatherMate/LICENSE.txt: GatherMate: fixed spelling error
12:49.49JoshBorkeyour side or their side?
12:50.14Gorbulasthe other side
12:50.19ckknight[Ammo]: not into guys
12:50.20JoshBorkesucks for you
12:50.29Ellipsisthen close your eyes, duh
12:51.11JoshBorkeEllipsis: shouldn't you be on his side?
12:51.18CIA-4803whitetooth * r59301 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-esES.lua:
12:51.18CIA-48RatingBuster:
12:51.18CIA-48- Added Spanish localization by carahuevo
12:53.24Traethere REALLY needs to be a "download" link somewhere on the wowace site
12:53.33TraeI can never find anything from the front page at all
12:53.38Gorbulasdownload what?
12:53.45Traean addon
12:53.55Traethere is the link to the wiki pages
12:53.59Traeand no download links there
12:54.05Traeand there is only the "beta downloads" link
12:54.23JoshBorketrae:  you know why it's beta downloads?
12:54.34TraeJoshBorke, cause they are mostly unstable?
12:54.35Traeheh
12:54.40JoshBorketrae:  exactly
12:54.50JoshBorketrae:  wowace is NOT a release quality distribution site
12:54.54CIA-4803whitetooth * r59302 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
12:54.54CIA-48StatLogicLib:
12:54.54CIA-48- Added an extra DualStatPatterns line by hebus30
12:55.25TraeJoshBorke, so the wowace updater isn't about release quality?
12:55.25JoshBorketherefore all you'll get are Beta Downloads
12:55.42EllipsisJoshBorke: ckknight is free to do whatever he wants with other guys :P
12:55.51[Ammo]you should put all your addons up there JoshBorke, the quality matches :p
12:55.55JoshBorketrae:  no, the wowace updater is a program which downloads addons from wowace
12:56.08JoshBorke[Ammo]: naw, i prefer to use beta category on wowi :-P
12:56.13[Ammo]same deal
12:56.14TraeJoshBorke, kk... oh well, it appears it won't happen.  so thanks
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12:56.32JoshBorkeTrae:  Beta Downloads IS the download link for wowace
12:56.42JoshBorkeyou're looking for haste's addon, right?
12:56.49JoshBorkeapplytoforehead?
12:57.14TraeJoshBorke, lol
12:57.54TraeI'm just looking for the cartographer stuff.  I can probably just dl with wowace on windows then snag the stuff over via scp
12:58.03JoshBorkewhy don't you use files.wowace.com?
12:58.05GorbulasTrae: http://files.wowace.com/
12:58.12JoshBorkethat is what wau pulls from
12:58.19Traereally?
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12:58.23Traeok
12:58.23JoshBorkeyes, really
12:58.30Gorbulasor use svn to fetch directly
12:58.31TraeI always thought that was very buggy  lol
12:58.44Gorbulasmake sure to read the wiki stuff on subversion
12:58.46JoshBorkeWAU pulls from the Beta Downloads portion of teh wowace site
12:58.53Traeit seemed (perhaps it's just me) that the windows updater worked better than grabbing stuff from wowace files area.
12:59.02Gorbulasyou can make a script that updates all your mods at once
12:59.02TraeJoshBorke, lol... that's funny
12:59.03CIA-4803merl * r59303 10/branches/mHud/ (10 files in 7 dirs):
12:59.03CIA-48mHud:
12:59.03CIA-48- Added: color template for combopoints, basic options for fade
12:59.03CIA-48- Fix: Hiding of non visible targets, Energyticker, ++
12:59.05JoshBorke~wuu
12:59.06purlit has been said that wuu is a WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automagically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/
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12:59.22TraeMaybe they don't work so well with Wine
12:59.41vhaarrthere are several python scripts and such as well you can use
12:59.43JoshBorkewhat is they?  addons?
12:59.52vhaarrgo read the updater category on the wowace forums
12:59.53vhaarrand l2p
13:00.11TraeJoshBorke, hey thanks mate for helping.  it's early here and I'm not quite coherent yet.
13:00.34vhaarror just keep it simple and use SVN directly
13:00.34JoshBorkeaddons (generally) don't behave differently based on OS
13:02.29thulckknight:/
13:02.34thulI agree with [Ammo]  :-P
13:03.41GorbulasTrae: http://ace.pastey.net/81207 is what I use on my Mac
13:03.46Arrowmasterwtb cmd line tool for handling filelist.wau's
13:04.14Arrowmasterrun one cmd to unpack all addons and another to repack
13:04.52Gorbulasif the folder isn't there it gets grabbed from svn.wowace.com. that works for everything but some libraries from offsite(like utf8)
13:04.53CIA-4803whitetooth * r59304 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua):
13:04.53CIA-48RatingBuster: 1.3.1
13:04.53CIA-48- Making this public version 1.3.1
13:05.24Gorbulasit's a pain to do the dependancies because the script doesn't understand how to do them itself
13:11.10Gorbulasfor skinner you can use symlinks instead of copying the skins over everytime :)
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13:27.47CIA-48GatherMate:
13:27.47CIA-48- use default profile instead of per-char
13:27.47CIA-48- change node display options to selects with options for Always, Never, With Profession, While Tracking
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13:29.02Roathdo i have to add bindings.xml to the toc file of an addon?
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13:36.10EsotericKIs anyone here?
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13:39.12EsotericKerm
13:39.55nevcairielYou should just ask your question, that usually helps with getting answers ,)
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13:50.45Antiar1Dear wowace: Come test my crap
13:50.51Antiar1http://www.forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=66691 <-- is the rundown/link
13:51.24Josh_Borkemorning
13:51.39Antiar1I'd reply in kind, but I haven't gone to bed yet
13:51.43Antiar1Though the sun is saying "good morning"
13:51.49Josh_Borke~ugt
13:51.51purlmethinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
13:51.55Antiar1~uat
13:51.55purluat is probably Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight, especially so-called "Universal" Fisker Time, which is just a sorry excuse for supposed "time" and will instead just be laughed at.
13:52.06Josh_Borkelol
13:52.22Josh_Borketousche
13:52.35Josh_Borkeor whatever
13:54.39KalrothDon't listen to Antiarc, he's a vampire.
13:54.50Antiar1Nah, just a programmer working 100+ hours/week
13:54.59AntiarcSpeaking of
13:55.00KalrothAnd getting paid for 40 of them!
13:55.11AntiarcI'm pretty sure I have dangerously high levels of blood in my caffeine stream
13:55.12Antiarcbrb.
13:55.35AntiarcNah, I'm a founding member and shareholder. Every line of code = $$ for me :D
13:55.38AntiarcHopefully.
13:55.44AntiarcIf not I will be very sad and uber caffeinated.
13:56.24KalrothI got some good morning reading too. 86mb of Scientology documents!
13:56.33Josh_Borkethere are always other jobs ;-)
13:56.45KalrothApparently all laws that applies to adults applies to children too.
13:57.00KalrothWhich is handy if you like underage sex, I guess.
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14:00.02Fisker-~uft
14:00.03purlUniversal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time.
14:00.05KalrothI'm pretty sure these Scientology fellas never raised a kid themselves.
14:00.20Fisker-oh u Antiarc
14:00.28Kalroth"When you give a child something, it's his. It's not still yours. Clothes, toys, quarters, what he has been given, MUST REMAIN UNDER HIS EXCLUSIVE CONTROL."
14:00.37Kalroth"So he tears up his shirt, wrecks his bed, breaks his fire engine. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS."
14:00.39Josh_Borkewtb git information with pictures
14:00.44AntiarcThis sounds like a wonderful parenting technique.
14:01.01Kalrothhttp://acdev.org/secretdox/ got all the leaked Scientology documents
14:01.12Kalrothit's the child dianetics I'm browsing :)
14:01.51Kalroth"If you want to control your child, simply break him into complete apathy and he'll be as obedient as any hypnotized half-wit."
14:02.04KalrothHey, I bet I could use this stuff as a raid leader.
14:02.33Kalroth"If you want to know how to control him, get a book on dog training, name the child Rex and teach him first to "fetch" and then to "sit up" and then to bark for his food. You can train a child that way. Sure you can."
14:02.57Fisker-man if i didn't hate that kind of stuff Antiarc i might've try it out :P
14:03.01SunTsuKalroth: hilarious
14:03.13AntiarcFisker-: Heheh, fair enough!
14:03.42Fisker-i'll try it anyways :o
14:04.20Chomperskal, been trying to download that
14:04.33Chomperssome of the stuff on children is disgusting
14:04.49Kalroth"You can actually punish a child physically to defend your rights, so long as he owns what he owns and can contribute to you and work for you."
14:05.04Kalroth"Adults have rights. He ought to know this. A child has growing up as his goal. If an adult doesn't have more rights, why grow up?"
14:05.25Fisker-:o
14:05.28Fisker-who's chris?
14:05.32KalrothDear Hubbard, this is fucked up!
14:05.48AntiarcFisker-: Me
14:06.02KalrothAntiarc: You don't sound like a Chris.
14:06.06Fisker-omg myspace copycat!1
14:06.06AntiarcI am a Chris.
14:06.10Gorbulasheh there's a guy in my guild named Elrondhubbard
14:06.26AntiarcFisker-: In this case, it actually makes good sense, because you have populated data there in your profile the first time you log in!
14:06.29Josh_Borkei am josh!
14:06.32AntiarcMyspace is just all "lulz I am a face on your page"
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14:06.38AntiarcBut yeah
14:06.49AntiarcI feel kinda dirty for the whole "omghai I am ur friend" thing
14:06.49AntiarcBUT
14:07.01AntiarcThat only shows up if you sign up through my invite codes.
14:07.08Fisker-ah ok
14:07.09AntiarcIf you send an invite to someone else then you're autofriended to them, not me
14:07.10AntiarcSo mhe.
14:07.11kenlyricthere needs to be a thinkgeek shirt
14:07.21kenlyric"Tom is my only friend"
14:07.27AntiarcHahahahah
14:07.29AntiarcAwesome
14:07.48KalrothAww
14:07.52Pkekyo|g'morning all
14:08.10Fisker-what's "My queue", "My sphere" and all that jazz? :P
14:08.39AntiarcThe tour kinda explains it
14:08.46AntiarcBut your queue is stuff you want to read/see/play/whatever
14:08.49AntiarcSorta a "to do" list
14:08.57Fisker-ah
14:08.59AntiarcYour sphere is everything you've seen/played/heard/read, etc
14:09.08AntiarcWe originally had "library" but people were only using it for things they owned
14:09.08Fisker-figured it was something like that
14:09.10AntiarcWhich wasn't the intent
14:09.13kenlyrichttp://www.myspace.com/truclinec
14:10.38kenlyricI need more incidents on myspace. been a while since I used that.
14:11.31winkillerI once signed up to see a photo of someone
14:11.41winkillercan't even remember login n stuff :P
14:11.49kenlyricthat's what I signed up for.
14:12.00kenlyricto see photos of someone pulling a fire alarm in their dorm.
14:12.15Fisker-it's actually a cool idea you got going :o
14:12.17kenlyricnot entirely necessary, since they had the video up on youtube
14:12.56GuardixRoath: ?
14:13.21Roathhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8140-RoathActionBars.html
14:13.23Roath:)
14:13.30Roaththanks alot for the help yesterday
14:14.00Guardixnp ;)
14:14.03Guardixlooks nice
14:14.18Roathyeah, still need to polish it, but the basic function is there
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14:15.31EsotericKRoath
14:15.36Roathyes?
14:15.38EsotericKthats what im talkin about man! nice shit
14:15.55EsotericKI always use default,, now with more action bars -- it owns ;)
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14:16.49Roathwell, technically you dont get more, i just moved the standard ones :P
14:17.15EsotericKyeah its what i mean.
14:17.22EsotericKI hate having to move and click the right ones =.=
14:17.44EsotericKI would rather have them all right there ;) easier access and more minimal than a big ass 2 bars to the right :)
14:17.46Chompersthis scientology stuff is NUTS
14:17.49EsotericKLol
14:17.51Chomperssome of the questions are insane
14:17.57Roathwell, ill be home in an hour or so to test the updated version im currently working on, there are some changes etc.
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14:18.06EsotericKindeed
14:18.11EsotericKI can test it if you want
14:18.12Chompers"have you ever bred warped life forms?"
14:18.18EsotericKNo
14:18.25Roathno, scientology serves a very good purpose
14:18.30EsotericKThats a definet no.
14:18.34Roathi mean, we need something to laught at, dont we?
14:18.36Roath:P
14:18.51Roathever heard of the crocoduck?
14:18.54kenlyricand, nobody you know is ever a member
14:19.00kenlyricso you don't feel bad about laughing at it
14:19.08Roathexactly :P
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14:19.17EsotericKLol
14:19.25Chompersso many questions like "have you ever made love to the wrong species"
14:19.29GuardixRoath won't the shapeshift frame pop up at the same spot as the pet action bar?
14:19.40EsotericKany of you guys know anything about Rogue UI's
14:19.44Chompersand the stuff on how to break down a child mentally to disown their parents is vile
14:19.53Roathnope, the shapeshift checks if the petbar is there and if it is, it attaches itself to its top
14:19.54EsotericKi want to put one together -- without all the messy ass UI Compilations
14:19.55Chompersand take up the cult instead
14:20.01Guardixok :)
14:20.14Roathhowever i havent tested it, only written the code, so dont know yet :P
14:20.28Roathneed to get a tonk controller or go do chess event >.<
14:20.48EsotericKHeh, my guild didn't get there yet -- last night ;(
14:20.59EsotericKGood rogue addons anyone?
14:21.04GorbulasRoath: that won't work if you summon pets in combat and shapeshift
14:21.04AntiarcHemlock
14:21.05EsotericKI have archud
14:21.08EsotericKthats it
14:21.15Antiarc</pimp>
14:21.23RoathGorbulas: right, any idea for a workaround? :S
14:21.26EsotericK?_? Hemlock = ?
14:22.24EsotericKhmm
14:22.29EsotericKi need help with Cartographer
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14:24.30RoathGorbulas: could you give me an example of who has both stance and pet at the same time that works in combat? to my knowledge toys like the tonk controller cant be used in combat and events like chess only puts the peice you control in combat (and you) while you control it
14:24.57Gorbulasmaybe a druid or warrior engineer with the remote
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14:25.14Roathcant use the tonk controller in combat i think
14:25.26Gorbulasgnomish universal remote
14:25.26kenlyricstance bar goes away when you control something else with a remote.
14:25.33Roathaah right
14:25.35CIA-4803celellach * r59313 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua:
14:25.35CIA-48AtlasLoot:
14:25.35CIA-48- Cosmetic change
14:25.46kenlyricassuming your viewpoint changes to object, like the fel reaver or the chess pieces.
14:26.27CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59314 10GuildFilter/GuildFilter.lua:
14:26.27CIA-48GuildFilter:
14:26.27CIA-48- Filtering input box at the top of the guild frame, moved the show offline somewhat and hidden some textures.
14:26.27CIA-48- Still quircks on editbox needs some work
14:26.31kenlyricpriests are the only possible option, and they don't get a stancebar :)
14:26.48Gorbulasmage too
14:26.55Roathstill, i need to test it and make sure it doesn't generate any errors, if it hides the shapeshiftbar when you gain a petbar, then thats ok with me as long as it doesn't generate any errors
14:26.56kenlyricmages don't have a stance
14:27.13Gorbulaspriests don't either
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14:27.16Ellipsistreant druid?
14:27.25Roathyou cant control the treants
14:27.29Gorbulasno treants are guardians
14:27.30Josh_Borkequest in netherstorm lets you control a mob
14:27.40Roathtrue
14:27.41Josh_Borkeie, stance + pet bar
14:27.47kenlyricshadowform is a stance
14:27.53EsotericKCan anyone tell me how to get Cartographer to work with the Nodes and shit? I have only "Cartographer" and Cartographer Data"
14:27.55kenlyricyou just don't get a stance bar.
14:28.00Roathyeah, but it doesn't have a stance bar for priests
14:28.05Roathyeah
14:28.10Josh_BorkeEsotericK: you need Cartographer_Mining/Herbalism/whatever else
14:28.21EsotericKAll of them?
14:28.24EsotericKNot just mining?
14:28.27Roathanyway, school is over, so im heading home to do some heavy testing >.<
14:28.28nevcairieluse a druid or warrior and use some remote toy thing or so
14:28.38Roathi got a paladin, should work too :P
14:28.40Josh_BorkeEsotericK: it depends on what you need
14:28.46EsotericKonly Mining Nodes --
14:28.56Josh_Borkethen you only need mining
14:29.29EsotericKi put the whole pack in
14:29.31EsotericKshould work now ;)
14:29.37EsotericKif not i will cry
14:30.07Gorbulasthe safe way to do it is to just attach the pet bar to the top of the stance bar, but we can't come up with a time when you'd need to
14:30.18EsotericKshit...
14:30.29EsotericKnow i dont even see "professions" -.-''
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14:31.14Pkekyo|that's because you won't stop being so bloody fucking pregnant!
14:31.33EsotericKO_O
14:31.59EsotericKI have the perfect ideal for an addon compilation
14:32.02Ellipsismages have stance bars?
14:32.07EsotericKno..
14:32.11EsotericKOfcourse not
14:32.21capullodefstance while iceblock :P
14:32.29EsotericKThe classes that do -> Pally Warrior Rogue <-
14:32.31EsotericKI think
14:32.41kenlyrichah
14:32.46Gorbulasrogues don't have a stance bar
14:32.50Gorbulasdruids do
14:32.51EsotericKfor stealth
14:32.51kenlyricum
14:32.54nevcairielsure rogues do
14:32.56kenlyric~fail gorbulas
14:32.57purlgorbulas: Fail.
14:32.58EsotericKsmart one
14:32.58GorbulasI don't see it
14:33.04EsotericKIt is Stealth
14:33.05EsotericK-.-''
14:33.06kenlyricthey get it at level... 2?
14:33.08GorbulasI'm on my rogue right now
14:33.08kenlyric4/
14:33.12EsotericK2
14:33.13EsotericKlol
14:33.14nevcairielits 2
14:33.15GorbulasI must have deleted the bac
14:33.16Gorbulasbar
14:33.25EsotericKAt level 2 you get rogue stance bar -> stealth
14:33.30nevcairielits a one-button bar just with stealth in it
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14:33.46kenlyricnever understood why rogues get one but priests don't
14:33.47Gorbulasyeah I would definitely delete that
14:34.09phyberimo, you should just not learn stealth.  then you safe yourself the effort of deleting it.
14:34.09EllipsisNO U
14:34.18phybers/safe/save/
14:34.29phyber;)
14:34.35Gorbulaswhat's the point of a special bar for stances?
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14:34.40EsotericKWho knows
14:34.54EsotericKBecause there are classes fyi -- paladin who have like 6-7
14:34.54EsotericKLmao
14:35.05Gorbulasbut I just put them on buttons
14:35.09nevcairielkenlyric: because when stance bars were created, shadowform didnt do stance switching ;)
14:35.15EsotericKIt would be rough putting them on the default action bars and still have room for all needed spells
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14:35.22kenlyricnevcairiel: so could it be dispelled?
14:35.26EsotericKyes
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14:35.45nevcairieli dunno, but they only added the stance switch for shadowform with 2.0
14:35.45nevcairieliirc
14:35.51genetiki've never been too fond of changing action bars depending on stances as a warrior
14:35.59EsotericK^^
14:36.02EsotericKI don't change mine
14:36.06EsotericKjust add hotkeys
14:36.06EsotericK;p
14:36.07kenlyricI do.
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14:36.15kenlyricbar 1 is stance-specific spells
14:36.16GorbulasI have 37 buttons with hotkeys so I don't need an extra button that I need to click with my mouse
14:36.17EsotericKto Messy imo
14:36.23kenlyricbar2 is stance-neutral spells
14:36.27Gorbulasand I disabled that somehow iirc
14:36.31EsotericKlol
14:36.48EsotericKI have a 70 Rogue and a 42 Lock -.-'
14:36.50nevcairielA warrior should definately use stance switching, i mean if you manage to get tanking and dps in one bar, you probably suck at both *shrug
14:37.22capullofor tanking you need 2 or 3 skills, right?
14:37.35genetiknevcairiel: that depends on how you have your action bars and keybindings set up
14:37.46EsotericKfuck this is so annoying,, can anyone give me the Cartographer with all the nodes working/
14:37.47nevcairiel4 or 5 skills, more or less
14:37.53EsotericKbecause mine is taking a crap on me everytime i log in
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14:39.14EsotericK-.-"
14:39.21CIA-4803oojoo * r59316 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/AuldLangSyne_Fu.toc: AuldLangSyne: No need for _Fu.toc to be in _FriendList folder
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14:45.47khanggEsotericK, yeah mine too :(
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14:49.01CIA-4803kagaro * r59317 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatherMate_Sharing: changed split function
14:56.32XinhuanEsotericK, cartographer_mining requires _Professions to be loaded
14:58.19khanggmine was fine yesterday
14:58.27khanggthen i updated with WAU
14:58.30khanggand its all :( again
14:58.34khanggi got that error that i got yesrteday
14:58.36khanggyesterday
15:00.21Pkekyo|is it plausible that wow kinda freaks out when you run alot of other apps on OpenGL mode?
15:01.32Gorbulasnot the Mac version, but maybe Windows will?
15:02.02Pkekyo|yeah, I'm running windowze
15:02.47Gorbulasyour frame rate might be unstable, and you might run out of memory on your video card, but other than that it should be fine
15:03.16Pkekyo|it's not unstable, it's steady at 0.25fps :p
15:03.25Gorbulasheh
15:03.36Gorbulaswhat other opengl stuff are you doing?
15:04.39Pkekyo|well, VLC seems to be what's causing it tbh
15:04.48Pkekyo|ping NeoTron
15:04.50Pkekyo|~seen NeoTron
15:04.53purlneotron is currently on #wowace (13h 56m 1s), last said: 'I've netted approximately 11-12k gold on jewelcrafting '.
15:05.40Gorbulasdon't use VLC and WoW at the same time then :)
15:06.09Pkekyo|wtf am I supposed to do whilst raiding then? :<
15:06.09Pkekyo|I need to have something to watch :p
15:06.21Gorbulastry changing the display module in VLC
15:06.44Gorbulasprobably supports surface, opengl, opengl2, directx, etc
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15:06.59EllipsisPkekyo|: I get crashes whenever I run WoW and Google Video Player at the same time
15:07.06Pkekyo|dx makes everything go tits up
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15:07.17Ellipsis(GVP is based on some VLC code, but I haven't had issues with VLC itself, so I dunno)
15:07.43Pkekyo|it's most likely because I run VLC under OpenGL mode
15:08.20Fisker-gay video player?
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15:08.53Pkekyo|google
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15:11.24GorbulasI was watching a high resolution video of people playing WoW, while WoW(and maybe ten other things) was running and didn't notice anything wrong
15:12.06Pkekyo|did you run your mediaplayer in oGL mode? :)
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15:13.12Gorbulasno, probably Quartz
15:13.26Pkekyo|wha?
15:13.32PolarinaGorbulas: What about OpenGL 3?
15:13.41Pkekyo|quartz is a graphics mode?
15:13.42hastewhy would they make a fork of VLC?
15:13.48GorbulasQuartz is used on Macs
15:13.51hastewhen you have a superior media player named mplayer
15:14.24Gorbulasmplayer doesn't seem as complete as VLC
15:14.55hastewhat is it that VLC has which mplayer lacks?
15:15.09hasteexcept for the whole stream server thingy
15:15.48Pkekyo|vlc is tasty
15:15.55Gorbulasthey both play the same codecs by default when distributed legally
15:16.00vhaarrto be honest they both suck, they both crash and lock up frequently
15:16.13Fisker-no problem Antiarc !
15:16.14vhaarrI'm more comfortable with gstreamer/totem/xine
15:16.25hasteI've yet to see my mplayer lock-up
15:16.27AntiarcWait, what
15:16.35hasteand I always run their svn trunk
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15:16.42Fisker-all that feedback i gave you :P
15:16.46vhaarrright, I just use the ubuntu packages
15:16.51GorbulasI've never gotten gstreamer to work right. I use mplayer from the command line on Linux
15:17.02AntiarcFisker-: Heh, thanks :D
15:17.04hasteI also use commandline mplayer
15:17.09haste<3 commandline
15:17.50vhaarrmaybe that's the problem then, I've always used the mplayer UI, and it locks up 24/7
15:17.56Pkekyo|16:16Gorbulasthey both play the same codecs by default when distributed legally <--- how do you manage to distribut either illegally?
15:18.02vhaarrperhaps it's a UI problem
15:18.15hastewell.. mplayer has really slow stable releases
15:18.25hasteso I guess that the ubuntu version is ancient
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15:18.34vhaarrPkekyo|: you bundle plugins that you're not allowed to, obviously
15:18.36hastedid it have the blue / gray GUI vhaarr ?
15:18.41GorbulasMPlayer(at least on Linux x86) can play files using binary codecs swiped from the Windows players
15:18.45vhaarrhaste: yeah
15:18.49hastevhaarr: then it's ancient :p
15:18.58vhaarrright
15:18.59Gorbulasyou aren't licensed to redistribute those iirc
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15:19.20Pkekyo|vhaarr: no, that's not blatantly obvious
15:19.25hastevhaarr: http://beverpung.net/images/nix/mplayer.png << mplayer built with gui from their svn, back in may
15:19.29vhaarrPkekyo|: to me it is
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15:19.55vhaarrhaste: that's not how my mplayer looked last time I used it :P
15:20.09vhaarrbut I've uninstalled it now, totem+gstreamer/xine works for everything
15:20.14Gorbulasrythmbox+
15:20.16Gorbulas?
15:20.20hastequod libet
15:20.40hasteonly media player that let's me do regexp searching on a 15k media library without locking up for 3 sec
15:21.07vhaarrnice to see someone else running a norwegian locale for a change
15:21.17vhaarrmost of the linux nerds I know use english even though they're norwegian
15:21.18vhaarrslackers
15:21.21Gorbulaslooks like rythmbox, I thought the name was translated into Japanese
15:21.22hasteheh, I don't anymore :p
15:21.25vhaarrnub
15:21.32hastemostly because there isn't a locale for wmii
15:21.37vhaarrmake one then
15:21.43vhaarrI translated synaptic originally
15:21.44vhaarrto nbNO
15:21.46hastethere's no GUI on wmii
15:21.47vhaarrand some other utils
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15:21.59hasteso nothing to translate :p
15:22.07hastefirefox does run in norwegian here tho'
15:22.09vhaarrso your point makes no sense then
15:22.24hastehehe
15:22.35hastequod libet currently runs in japanese
15:22.41ckknightGorbulas: quod libet is Latin, not Japanese
15:22.55haste<PROTECTED>
15:23.11Gorbulasyeah, but usually the application name goes on the right side of the title
15:23.14Fisker-1+1 = 2
15:23.26hasteGorbulas: totally depends on your GTK theme
15:23.35Gorbulasand I didn't recognize Quod Libet because I'm tired
15:24.15Pkekyo|vhaarrmost of the linux nerds I know use english even though they're norwegian <--- how the flying fuck is that slacking? using a language that is not your mother tongue is hardly less work
15:24.43Gorbulasthat doesn't work for web browsers because google and others put the name on the right
15:25.24hasteoh you mean the title of the application only
15:25.27hastenot the whole string
15:25.35hastethat's per application :p
15:25.39vhaarrPkekyo|: it's slacking because I say so
15:25.41vhaarrnow, time to make dinner
15:25.58Pkekyo|vhaarr: screw dinner, stop slacking
15:26.05hasteand you can have Firefox - Google blargh, or Google blargh - Firefox if you want it like that
15:26.50Gorbulasgoogle looks like "blah - Google Search"
15:27.10Gorbulasso you'd get "Firefox - blah - Google Search"
15:27.51Gorbulasbut window titles are given to the window manager as a single string iirc
15:28.11hasteyou can change where firefox adds Firefox to the title
15:28.23hasteand if you have a sane WM you can tweak it further
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15:36.46Roathwhats the function to print out messages in the chatwindow to the player only (similar to /print)
15:37.15Josh_BorkeRoath: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(<stuff>)
15:37.29Roaththanks
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15:52.05CIA-4803funkydude * r59318 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Kazrogal.lua Hyjal/Winterchill.lua SC/Vashj.lua): BigWigs: deDE updates by yoshimo
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15:52.31Roathwhere can i read up on how to add slash commands? on wowwiki its nicely written, but i can only get "/command" to work not "/command job"
15:53.13Josh_Borkeroath:  everything you need is on wowwiki
15:53.20Josh_Borkeyou just need to make your command handler process the text strings
15:53.38Roathhow?
15:53.56[SW]DodgeRoath: look at some addons using "/command xyz" ;)
15:54.37Josh_Borkehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Extracting_info_from_a_slash_command
15:54.57array{Endeavour}as he said, everything on wowace.com :D
15:55.11Josh_Borkeno actually, wowace won't help you much
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15:56.32Roathknow any simple addons that dont have 2 miles of code that i can look at? :S
15:57.11Josh_Borkehm
15:57.14Josh_Borkesome of mine, one second
15:58.03Josh_Borkehttp://128.61.35.67/tags/Abandoned/Borked_Monitor/Borked_Monitor.lua
15:58.04Roathim very new to LUA, so most stuff just looks like some foreign language to me -_-
15:58.05krkaRoath: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
15:58.07Josh_Borkeat the bottom of that f ile
15:58.10Funkeh`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/BasicBuffs/BasicBuffs.lua thats how I did mine
15:58.17Funkeh`at the bottom
15:58.28Josh_Borkefunkeh's is better
15:58.30Josh_Borkesimpler
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15:59.23array{Endeavour}by the way, which editor do you use? i was using html kit a long time, but well, it's no lua editor at all
15:59.56hastehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors
16:00.02haste<PROTECTED>
16:00.15Roathwhat does _G mean?
16:00.20Funkeh`Don't start an editor argument please :-)
16:00.28nevcairiel_G is a reference to the global environment
16:00.30hasteRoath: _G is the globa table, you might want to read:
16:00.33haste~pil
16:00.34purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
16:00.44Roathi dont want to read an entire book >.<
16:00.46array{Endeavour}hahahah
16:00.48hasteyes you do
16:00.52vhaarryeah you do
16:00.56nevcairielits a good book
16:01.01vhaarrand if you don't, then don't expect us to answer any questions either
16:01.06nevcairieli even got a hard copy just to show my gratitude ;)
16:01.23xyuyeah well i have the gold plated version. sup!
16:01.42Funkeh`actually the hard copy is probably easier
16:01.50nevcairieland i can read it too, xyu!
16:02.04[Ammo]blurgh
16:02.04xyumine was stolen 3 seconds later
16:02.49array{Endeavour}does anyone know where to find a table of all available characters? like \192\145\ etc? i need to print out umlauts an several other not common letters
16:02.50Roathnvm, will just play with it
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16:02.58vatoskyQuestion!
16:03.08Funkeh`array{Endeavour}, do a google search
16:03.16nevcairiellua> "ä"
16:03.16lua_botnevcairiel: ä
16:03.18nevcairielhm
16:03.23nevcairieldo that in game, and you get the char
16:03.30Funkeh`oh?
16:03.33Funkeh`news to me ;p
16:03.36Josh_Borkearray{Endeavour}: google ascii table
16:03.52nevcairiel./dump "ä" gives you the char code
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16:04.01array{Endeavour}thanks to all :)
16:04.07vatoskySo i've read the article With / Without Libs and apparantly without loads faster. But... is it possible that addons are way outdated without libs?
16:04.32Funkeh`'way outdated' how?
16:04.53vatoskyWoWAceUpdater gives addons (without libs)  >90 days
16:05.05nevcairielmaybe they just were not updated in that time?
16:05.05Fisker-btw haste
16:05.07Fisker-reached 70 yet?
16:05.14Funkeh`Yeah thats the true updated period
16:05.17nevcairielthe addons are all the same, with or without libs
16:05.20hasteno, haven't played much in the past weeks
16:05.23hasteso only 61
16:05.25Funkeh`The other ones are when the addon last had its libs updated
16:05.53vatoskyOhh, that clarifies
16:06.00Fisker-aww haste :<
16:06.53hasteI also don't have an epic mount, so it's like -30 to the motivation of leveling ^^
16:07.29Funkeh`haste, pvp it
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16:07.31Fisker-hoho
16:07.34Funkeh`like everyone else ;p
16:07.40hasteFunkeh`: wut?
16:07.45Fisker-one does not simply not get epic mount
16:07.51Funkeh`30 marks for free epixx mount
16:07.52Fisker-and why would you pvp for the mount?
16:07.54Fisker-yeah
16:07.58hasteah
16:07.59Fisker-and a free epix mount is liek nothing
16:08.02hastecompletly forgotten that
16:08.06Funkeh`100g isn't nothing my friend
16:08.07Fisker-because the majority of the cost is THE TRAINING
16:08.14Funkeh`100g is a lot
16:08.20Fisker-it's 80g unless you suck
16:08.21hasteFunkeh`: it's a fuck load when you don't have any other chars on that server :p
16:08.45Funkeh`indeed
16:08.47haste(and level tailoring + enchanting on the side)
16:08.54hasteI only had 450G when I hit L60
16:09.28hasteand 300 enchanting + tailoring :p
16:09.28Fisker-n00b
16:09.34Fisker-i had like 4000g when i hit level 60
16:09.41hastelies
16:09.44Fisker-no
16:09.54Fisker-i just started at 3k :D
16:10.01mitch0fisker: did you get xp in the AH, too? :)
16:10.02hastelol
16:10.08Fisker-also
16:10.14CIA-4803jerry 07Ace3 * r59319 10Grid/Grid/ (7 files): Grid: (Ace3 branch) next batch of drycoded updates.
16:10.14Fisker-where's GTA4 for the fucking pc
16:10.23Fisker-fucking rockstar failtards :<
16:10.37Fisker-well i've pretty much doubled my fortune using the AH :O
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16:14.07Antiar1http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3412/heathledgememorialdw5.jpg
16:14.08Antiar1WOW
16:14.10Antiar1WOW.
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16:14.47EsotericKWhat is it?
16:15.09CIA-4803grum 07Ace3 * r59320 10Routes/Routes.lua:
16:15.09CIA-48Routes:
16:15.09CIA-48- Adding and deleting nodes now correctly updates the worldmap as well.
16:15.24EsotericKah shit -.-''
16:15.28EsotericKHe died the 22nd..
16:15.33EsotericKI didn't even know that
16:15.46vhaarrI think he was a good actor
16:16.10Antiar1I'm just blown away that someone is monetizing it this quickly
16:17.12vhaarrA Knight's Tale was hilarious, and Brokeback Mountain was great
16:17.14EsotericKPolice said Ledger probably died between 1 p.m. and 2:45 p.m. Tuesday. At 1 p.m., the housekeeper went into his bedroom to change a light bulb, saw him sleeping and heard him snoring.
16:19.39PolarinaEsotericK: What happened is pretty obvious there. ;)
16:20.39vhaarrwhy would the house keeper change the light bulb while you're sleeping?
16:21.00Megalonvhaarr: to kill you!
16:21.04vhaarrindeed
16:21.09vhaarrclearly we've solved this crime
16:21.23Megaloncase closed
16:21.29PolarinaIt's just way too obvious. :O
16:22.28CIA-4803funkydude 07Ace3 * r59321 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua: BasicComboPoints: bugfix
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16:23.44Ellipsis~seen saladfork
16:23.48purlsaladfork <n=SaladFor@pool-71-248-160-155.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 119d 14h 2m 46s ago, saying: 'Camci - You can /msg ThraeBot and it'll respond'.
16:23.52Industriallol
16:24.01Ellipsisohai Industrial
16:24.04Industrialohai
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16:24.45IndustrialI probably wont sleep tonight
16:24.52Ellipsissleep is for wimps
16:25.06Industrialwinners graduate
16:25.25Industrialneed to get it done ><
16:25.54Industrialso, bai.
16:26.28Antiar1It's currently 9:30 AM
16:26.35AntiarcAnd yeah.
16:26.36CIA-4803jerry * r59323 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_esES.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate
16:26.37AntiarcNo sleeps.
16:26.41AntiarcI'm not really tired though, oddly.
16:27.04Pkekyo|holy shit, I just noticed I've got a crew cut+mohawk O.o
16:27.24CIA-4803pettigrow 07Locales * r59324 10GatherMate/GatherMate-frFR.lua: GatherMate: frFR Update
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16:37.09Fisker-i just got an email from the health department of manhood
16:37.17Fisker-what a silly name for a town!
16:38.05Industrial..
16:40.11neeneeHmm.. someone in here linked a WoW comic, but I lost the name :|
16:40.15neeneeCan anyone remember?
16:40.35Pkekyo|darklegacy?
16:40.44Pkekyo|hmm...what should I do to get more than 10fps?
16:40.46neeneeSomeone asked for the link, it lacked an 's' at the end I recall, but then that person said he or she wanted a specific comic
16:40.46Pkekyo|- in wow
16:40.58Estilwww.darklegacycomic.com
16:41.00PolarinaPkekyo|: What OS?
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16:41.17neeneeUpgrade your hardware, stare at a wall, decrease resolution, disable anti-aliasing, decrease bit-depth, lower details, viewing-distance, etc.
16:41.28neeneeThanks Estil
16:41.51neeneeTry OpenGL instead of Direct3D, though D3D is better when you're using cedega and wine I think.
16:41.58Pkekyo|Polarina: win XP
16:42.10Polarinaneenee: OpenGL is better in Wine and Cedega.
16:42.11neeneeDisable Full-Screen Glowing Effect
16:42.31PolarinaPkekyo|: What card?
16:42.35neeneePolarina: In my experience D3D was better with Cedega, but it's been a while so things might have changed.
16:42.38neenee:)
16:42.49Pkekyo|Polarina: Radeon x1650 Pro
16:42.56Fisker-staring in a wall ftw
16:43.03Polarinaneenee: It's "better", but slower.
16:43.21neeneeBetter, as in the quality is better/more accurate?
16:43.23PolarinaPkekyo|: Could you send me a screenshot of your in-game video configurations?
16:43.59Polarinaneenee: Quality. Well, WoW does some effects in Direct3D it doesn't do in OpenGL.
16:44.11neeneeoki
16:44.16Polarinaneenee: Such as hardware cursor, which is possible in OpenGL, but WoW doesn't do it.
16:45.03neeneeYup
16:45.06Polarinaneenee: Minor, unnoticable glitches along the top edge with glowing effects enabled with WoW in OpenGL mode.
16:45.08neeneeSame goes for Windows
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16:45.27Pkekyo|Polarina: no, but I can write them up for you? :p
16:45.49Polarinaneenee: But all Direct3D calls applications do that are run with Wine or Cedega are redirected to OpenGL, so, OpenGL is perfectly cabable to do all these things.
16:45.59PolarinaPkekyo|: Why not?
16:46.20Pkekyo|REALLY shitty uploadrate atm
16:46.29neeneeStill, I found D3D to run better, but, it's been about two years for me since I tried it myself.
16:46.42Reclusewhat ever happened to wowace.com/stats anyhow?
16:46.44PolarinaPkekyo|: Send me through DCC, or use low quality JPEG format.
16:46.48neeneePkekyo|: try imageshack.us
16:48.42Pkekyo|Polarina: you've got a PM :)
16:48.49Pkekyo|neenee: that's affected by my shitty updaterate
16:49.13neeneeTrue, but any method is, unless you type out your settings.
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16:51.01Pkekyo|I typed out my entire settings :)
16:51.12neenee:)
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16:56.21Pkekyo|anyone else experience a HUGE increase in loadingtimes after patch 2.3?
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16:56.57IndustrialPkekyo|: 2.3.3 was supposed to make it faster
16:57.52Pkekyo|that was AFTER the loadingscreen was gone, and concerned the wait before you could see characters in-game though, no?
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16:59.49Pkekyo|I got a HUGE increase in the time the loadingscreen is being displayed
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17:05.06Recluseyeah, the patch just affected load time of npc's
17:05.15[SW]DodgePkekyo|: i exerience a extreame increase of loading time... or decrease? (it is FASTER) ^^
17:05.29Pkekyo|it takes alot longer for me
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17:05.48Pkekyo|I could spend 3-4min glaring at the bloody loadingscreen /wrist
17:06.09array{Endeavour}mh, use \r\n for new line or someshing else?
17:06.09nevcairielstart mediaplayer :P
17:06.18Reclusehehe. i'm used to it due to so many addons
17:07.05Pkekyo|nevcairiel: ..?
17:07.32Reclusemediaplayer loads some dll(?) that helps wow load faster
17:07.44Pkekyo|Recluse: I as well have loads of addons, but the amount of addons didn't increase after 2.3, only the loading times does
17:07.50nevcairielit just changes the timers to a higher resolution
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17:08.08Pkekyo|I think I somehow borked mediaplayer to such an extent that it does no longer work
17:08.28Recluselol
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17:09.49Pkekyo|not that I mind :)
17:12.22ReclusePkekyo|: http://tinyurl.com/2zecta
17:13.13Pkekyo|I bloody bet MS will file a lawsuit against them for that :p
17:13.25RecluseXD
17:13.32neeneeI wish the timer could be changed without running media player. But then, I haven't really tried.
17:13.37Recluseyou mispelled M$
17:13.39nevcairielit can
17:14.23nevcairielneenee: http://www.viribusunitis.net/uploads/Nevcairiel/srcdsfpsboost.zip .. if you dont trust the .exe, sourcecode attached to compiel for yourself :P
17:14.41Pkekyo|Recluse: no I didn't :) I spell it properly... YOU mispelled it
17:14.54neeneeShould be fine. Thanks for sharing :)
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17:17.44neeneeReminds me of a linux kernel patch
17:17.48Polarinableeter: People get increased performance by starting Windows Media Player before starting up WoW. Could something similar be done with Wine? :P
17:17.54neeneeWe did a lot of things back then with timers too
17:19.04Polarinableeter: Run Windows Media Player under Wine I guess, right? :)
17:19.20neeneePolarina: I doubt it's really needed
17:19.58Polarinaneenee: It really imporves WoWs framerate. Try it for yourself if you don't believe me.
17:20.19neeneeI know, I just meant that I doubt Linux needs it.
17:20.20Pkekyo|if you hear voices in your head...are you then definitely, unquestionably schitzophrenic?
17:20.22nevcairielthats a thing with the way windows handles its timers, i would really be surprised if it worked on Wine
17:20.45nevcairielplus, that thing doesnt really help my frame rate, only my loadtimes
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17:21.09SunTsuIt didn't help me at all
17:21.29SunTsuWhich is sad, because I was the one to spread the news to my guild...
17:21.36nevcairielhehe
17:22.38[Liquidor].999~ = 1 ?
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17:26.08cncfanaticslittle thing
17:26.12Fisker-wuts dis nevcairiel ?
17:26.19cncfanaticswhy can't windows always be in the so called "high performance mode" its put in when mediaplayer starts ?
17:26.22cncfanaticsI jsut don't get it
17:26.53nevcairielbecause its not needed
17:26.56nevcairieland wastes cpu
17:27.43cncfanaticsits not needed for stuff to go twice as fast ? :o
17:28.52nevcairielonly multimedia apps need that
17:28.55nevcairieland they can toggle it
17:28.56nevcairielso
17:28.59nevcairielwhats the point?
17:29.06nevcairielbetter ask blizzard why they dont enable it :D
17:29.38cncfanaticskind of
17:29.49cncfanaticsshld also ask blizzard why they don't compile WoW for linux also :p
17:30.04neeneeBecause it's not profitable probably.
17:30.18nevcairielyeah would need more coders to optimze stuff
17:30.37cncfanaticswell, it runs pristine under wine, so not that much optimization would be needed I think ?
17:30.41cncfanaticsor am I just thinking wrong there ?
17:30.59neeneeI've never had it run well with wine/cedega
17:31.03neeneeMaybe I have to dual-boot and try again
17:31.28cncfanaticsI never had it not run well
17:31.33cncfanaticswhat issues do you get neenee ?
17:31.49neeneeI must have tried it too long ago.
17:31.54neeneeBad frame rates
17:31.56cncfanaticsworked since release for me tbh
17:31.59neeneeThat was my only issue
17:32.04cncfanaticsframe rate issues are usualy due to pixelshader settings
17:32.04SunTsuneenee: ATI graphics card or nvidia?
17:32.07cncfanaticsgot ati hardware ?
17:32.21neeneeI even upgraded my cpu, ram and gfx card and it did not compare well to windows :|
17:32.33neeneenope, nvidia, because at the time it had better support under linu
17:32.34neenee*x
17:32.56cncfanaticsit still has fyi neenee
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17:33.06Lightfaz~seen kirkburn
17:33.08purlkirkburn <i=Kirkburn@c-67-167-101-23.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 17h 7m 45s ago, saying: 'unping?'.
17:33.10cncfanaticsmy WoW always ran better on linux then windows btw
17:33.10neeneeBut it's no real problem now, I run it fine on windows.
17:33.15cncfanaticsmy computer is 5years old though
17:33.34SunTsuIt's too bad that I can't play for some days, my WoW on Wine/FreeBSD is still untested
17:34.06CIA-4803recluse * r59327 10Baggins_Outfitter/Baggins_Outfitter.lua:
17:34.06CIA-48Baggins_Outfitter:
17:34.06CIA-48- Fixed Outfitter function calls so this Baggins module will work once again.
17:34.49Reclusewas driving me nuts, so i e-mailed the author. said he wasn't playing anymore and to go ahead
17:35.02cncfanaticsnevcairiel: checked my issue yet ?
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17:41.35nevcairielcncfanatics: yeah, works fien for me
17:41.59cncfanaticsweird
17:41.59nevcairieli set :SetDefaultModuleState(false) in my main file, and check self:IsEnabled() in the modules OnInit
17:42.02nevcairieland everything is fine
17:42.16cncfanaticstry checking in OnEnable
17:42.25cncfanaticsmodules are never ever enabled on oninit so thats maybe why it works ?
17:42.32nevcairielYou cannot check in OnEnable
17:42.42cncfanaticsand why is that ?
17:42.44nevcairielOnEnable will not be called when IsEnabled() is false
17:42.55cncfanaticsI mean, the OnEnable of the mainchunck
17:42.59cncfanaticsof the main addon
17:43.01cncfanaticsnot of the module
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17:43.13nevcairielsame result
17:43.21cncfanaticsah well
17:43.27cncfanaticsglad I decided to move away from AceAddon-3.0
17:43.44nevcairielwhy would that be different, there is only one place in AceAddon source where .enabledState is set
17:43.48nevcairieluser error :P
17:44.23Pkekyo|PEBCAK
17:45.02SunTsu.o0( "level 8 problem" would be a nicer comment ;) )
17:45.03Ellipsisit's always cncfanatics's fault
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17:45.26cncfanaticsits always Ellipsis' fault
17:45.39Polarinacncfanatics: What was that CVar for increased CombatLog distance?
17:45.46Chompersor Ellipsis IS the problem
17:45.57Ellipsis=[
17:46.00Ellipsisnot my fault!
17:46.04cncfanaticsPolarina
17:46.09cncfanaticshttp://cncfanatic.free.fr/Config.wtf
17:46.10Chomperswe shall deal with you in time...
17:46.12cncfanaticscheck yourself
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17:48.37Pkekyo|Ellipsis: prove it :p
17:48.47Ellipsisuh...um...
17:48.53EllipsisI was asleep at the time!
17:49.29ckknightit's likely, she's asleep a lot
17:50.36Ellipsisyeah, see?
17:50.39Ellipsisso clearly I didn't do it
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17:53.56Pkekyo|oh
17:54.00Pkekyo|do what btw?
17:54.07EllipsisI'm not sure
17:54.11Ellipsiswhatever I'm accused of
17:54.53Chompersaccused of being Ellipsis
17:55.07Ellipsisoh
17:55.09Ellipsiswell yeah
17:55.13Ellipsisobviously I didn't do THAT
17:55.23nevcairielsince when do you sleep alot anyway?
17:55.30nevcairieli remember you being here like always :P
17:55.44Ellipsisit's ckknight's fault, he wears me out!
17:56.34ckknightnevcairiel: she goes afk
17:56.55nevcairielsleep for 10 minutes then comes back? *shrug :P
17:56.56EllipsisI do not
17:56.58EllipsisI never ever afk
17:57.02ckknightlol
17:57.03Ellipsisever!
17:57.10Ellipsisafk is for losers!
17:57.12ckknightnevcairiel: yea, that actually happens
17:57.16Ellipsis:(
17:58.06Chompersare you two related or something, same ips
17:58.14Ellipsis...
17:58.42ckknightwe're sitting on the same bed
17:58.46ckknightand I'm not wearing pants
17:58.49ckknightI hope we're not related
17:59.00Chomperssounds frisky
17:59.04Chompersoh, american pants
17:59.06Ellipsishe is
17:59.29Pkekyo|lmao ckknight
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18:00.25Osstiado the laptops get put away before relations?  cause that could be kinda awkward
18:00.37ckknightshe leaves hers on the bed for some reason
18:00.43ckknightI put mine on the bedside table
18:00.44Ellipsis...I can't reach the floor
18:01.05Ellipsisplus I'm short enough that mine doesn't get in the way if I leave it at the foot of the bed
18:01.13Osstiahaha
18:02.23Pkekyo|I've never seen a computer get in the way before :P
18:02.26Osstiashort people got...
18:02.30Osstiano reason...
18:02.45OsstiaPkekyo|: then you are doing it wrong
18:02.50Ellipsisthen you're doing it wrong
18:03.15CIA-4803miles * r59328 10aUF_RangeCheck_M/aUF_RangeCheck.lua: aUF_RangeCheck_M: aUF & Ace3 compatibility, the default rangecheck module is a bit.. jumpy.
18:03.33Lukianhehe jumpy
18:04.25Ellipsiso.O
18:04.39MentalPowerAuctioneer and Gatherer are contemplating moving to GPLv3, please comment: http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/6173
18:05.15ckknight*shrug*
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18:05.50Chompersso ckknight, no pants huh
18:05.59ckknightright.
18:06.06ckknightboxers, though
18:06.10Chompersrefreshing?
18:06.20Osstiamy laptop gets too hot for that
18:06.22*** join/#wowace jy (n=jy@2a01:5d8:52f2:7d08:0:0:0:2)
18:06.27OsstiaI burned myself the other day doing that
18:06.38Reclusesome people think better w/no pants
18:06.38ckknightOsstia: mine's fine
18:06.42ckknightChompers: quite
18:06.53ckknightRecluse: my legs breathe better
18:06.59Ellipsiswell guys aren't supposed to use laptops on their lap even with pants on
18:07.06Osstiawhy?
18:07.08Ellipsistoo much heat causes problems I guess
18:07.11Reclusesterilizes
18:07.13Chompersand legs for balls and that's spot on
18:07.16Chompers*swap
18:07.44OsstiaI got tested.  my swimmers are fine
18:08.09Reclusei got fixed. no babies for me
18:08.22genetikhttp://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/laptop.asp
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18:08.43Chomperswhile you're here ckk, Lost and House are back on soon
18:08.51Chompersdont forget :)
18:09.22ckknightdon't watch House
18:09.31ckknightand how are they still Lost?
18:09.43Chompersi have no idea, i think this is the zombie season
18:09.48Osstiathey aren't lost
18:09.51Recluse...o.O
18:09.52Osstiathey are time traveling now
18:10.27Chomperswhat else, stargate atlantis is back too
18:10.42Chompersabout fucking time they had a space battle
18:11.02Osstiahehe
18:11.19Osstiaand I swear their commercial says they are fighting their long time nemesis, the Dranaei
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18:17.37Pkekyo|geif stargate atlantis full s4
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18:20.20Lukianyes plz Pkekyo|
18:20.24thulI like stargate atlantis
18:20.32thulhaeven't started on season 4 though
18:20.55m4rku5sga pwns
18:20.56m4rku5;D
18:21.55thulI still hate logitech
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18:24.17Pkekyo|I can't start on s4 until it's out as a full series :p
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18:30.05KazieAnyone here who knows if Necrosis still exists with an updated versioN ?
18:30.15thulI need a nibrik
18:30.23Reclusei haven't updated mine in a long time, but it still works..
18:30.28thuls/nibrik/ibrik/
18:30.30[SW]DodgeKazie: the old version still works
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18:31.28KazieNecrosis LCD or just necrosi? .. one is from january and one from june or july 2007 :s
18:31.33Kaziefrom what i can find
18:32.12[SW]Dodgehttp://dodgex.servegame.com/Necrosis.rar
18:32.18[SW]Dodgethats the version i use
18:32.38[SW]Dodgeno errors in the last 4 month
18:33.12Kazienice :)
18:35.38thulhmm
18:35.43thulanyone good at making arabian coffee?
18:36.20NeoTronSo association game: MS/Prot warrior in raids
18:36.26Pkekyo|I'm good at drinking it...does that count?
18:36.32Pkekyo|NeoTron: full of win and awesome
18:36.49NeoTronPkekyo|: sarcastic, baseless or experience?
18:36.55Ellipsismmm coffee
18:37.12NeoTronI honestly have no idea if it's in any case viable, but a guy wants to go down that route to be "more useful"
18:37.46NeoTronI just don't think you can have a prot build that's useful for MTing illidan (which he does now) while stil doing meaningful enough DPS to be able to take a DPS spot
18:38.06thulPkekyo|: I bought 500g in Cairo
18:39.11Pkekyo|NeoTron: I'm a warrior :)
18:39.27Pkekyo|it's viable...nowhere near as viable as full prot, but you can offtank decently
18:39.28NeoTronhow deep into fury is MS?
18:39.30Pkekyo|share, thul
18:39.43NeoTronbut would you do any kind of viable DPS to be worthy a DPS spot?
18:39.43Pkekyo|MS is the 31 point talent in Arms
18:39.58NeoTronso a 31/30 spec
18:40.05NeoTrondo you lose a lot of threat gen?
18:40.21NeoTronbecause this dude can't seem to generate sufficient threat as prot spec
18:40.22Pkekyo|NeoTron: for DPS spot as MS, Blood Frenzy is a MUST
18:40.30Pkekyo|think that'd make 34 points in arms, if memory serves
18:40.34thulPkekyo|: well, just come by bjølsen :-P
18:40.37Diao33
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18:40.48NeoTronerr
18:40.50Pkekyo|gimme a sec NeoTron, and I'll set up a decent hybrid specc
18:40.59NeoTronif it's 34 arms you can't get 31 fury too :P
18:41.03Pkekyo|thul: it's a bit far
18:41.09Diaowhy fury
18:41.11thulhehe
18:41.13thulfury ftw
18:41.16thulfury ftdpw
18:41.17Diaoyou said ms/prot o_O
18:41.20thuldpsw
18:41.20thul:-D
18:41.21NeoTronerr
18:41.25NeoTronis ms arms? :P
18:41.27Diaoyes
18:41.29Pkekyo|well, blood frenzy is the ONLY thing justifying an arms warrior in raids
18:41.30NeoTronexcuse my lack of warrior knowledge
18:41.31Pkekyo|yes it is
18:41.39Pkekyo|sec, I'll set up a tree for you
18:41.40NeoTronor so arms/prot
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18:41.56Diaoyou lose out on devastate and shield slam
18:41.58NeoTronblood frenzy the thing that increases melee dps dealt to the target ?
18:42.02DiaoMT without those 2 skills is retarded :P
18:42.15NeoTronI pretty much would say no to this guy MTing illidan
18:42.24Pkekyo|yes NeoTron
18:42.27NeoTronreally he only did it for starters because he was too lazy to get his FR set in order
18:42.45Pkekyo|NeoTron: NEVER let some non-prot twat MT illidan
18:42.46NeoTronand we haven't changed since because it'd be a learning curve for the normal MT and larger learning curve for him in phase 2
18:43.17Diaoyou can't really MT as a hybrid spec
18:43.22thulwell, why wont he just respec mt for it?
18:43.27Diaoanyway afk
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18:44.13Pkekyo|NeoTron: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czAboxMdZVxZcEzoh something like this, I could bring along for offtanking lower instances
18:44.22NeoTronthul: he is prot now
18:44.26thulk
18:44.27Pkekyo|if he won't respecc for maintanking, sod him, don't bring him along
18:44.31NeoTronhe waants some arms/prot hybrid to be "more useful"
18:44.40NeoTronhe is NOT the guild MT
18:44.42thulwell, if he wants to be usefull, he specs prot for raiding
18:44.49thulthen respec arms for pvp :-P
18:44.50NeoTronwe have two guild MT's - a feral druid and a prot warrior
18:45.00thulI need a new guild :/
18:45.05thulany european servers need imba-dps rogue? :-P
18:45.07NeoTronthul: more useful in raids..
18:45.36thulNeoTron: is he usefull if he dies on illidan? :-P
18:45.40thulthat is the question :-D
18:45.49thulTO LIVE OR TO DIE
18:45.52thulthat is the question
18:45.53thuletc
18:46.00NeoTronwell as I said, I would make him tank an elementa, not MT
18:46.00Pkekyo|NeoTron: if he speccs amrs/prot, never let him maintank 25mans without respeccing...it's utter shite
18:46.24thulsomeone find me an eu-server with a nice, mature guild that accept 1-3 raids pr week-attendance, preferably late night CET raiding
18:46.27thul:-P
18:46.40Pkekyo|bloodfeather EU :p
18:46.51thulhehe
18:47.09NeoTronI personally feels he's a mediocre tank to begin with and even if he's not a liability he certainly isn't great
18:47.17NeoTronin fact tanks is probably our weakest spot at the moment
18:47.28thuli can lvl my horde warrior and help you out
18:47.29thul:-P
18:48.17Pkekyo|NeoTron: then just replace him or have him stay prot...if he doesn't perform well as full prot, he'll be utter shite as hybrid
18:49.11thulmy guild is breaking up :-(
18:49.29Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
18:49.35Pkekyo|my original guild just got reformed<3
18:49.39ag`tell them to to stop drama
18:50.09Pkekyo|used to be the socially best guild on the server...still is imo, even though there's alot of newguys around that won't ever say a word in gchat
18:50.52thulwell, not drama-breaking up
18:51.00thuljust "i have to do this" "that" etc
18:51.02thulso people leave
18:51.03thulnot enough progress etc :/
18:51.17thuland it is sad, beacause it is/was a very mature/good guild
18:51.40NeoTronPkekyo|: problem is the other prot tank really likes him for some weird reason
18:51.42ag`how far did you get+
18:52.15NeoTronMe and the feral tank are just very unimpressed with him
18:52.23thulag`: we? not far
18:52.42NeoTronhe asked how to handle shear on Illidan because it was hard to move and click (with the mouse) the shield block button at the same time
18:52.48ag`ok
18:52.51NivFreakNeoTron: ....
18:52.57NeoTronmaking a comment on how using a "hot key" doesn't work since he was moving...
18:53.01NivFreakummm
18:53.03NivFreakok
18:53.05NivFreakboot him
18:53.07NivFreakthat's terribad
18:53.18NeoTronif it was up to me that would have been when I'd said "plonk" and opened up recruiting for a competent tank
18:53.30NivFreakI mean seriously
18:53.35NivFreakhe's clicking shield block?
18:53.36NivFreakwtf...
18:53.40NeoTronyep
18:53.51CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59329 10Mapster/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Mapster: add AceGUI and AceConfig externals
18:53.52thulhaha
18:53.55NivFreakI rarely even use shield block independant of revenge
18:53.58NeoTronapparently so is our MT.. or rather our MT clicks a bunch of abilities, but probably not shield block
18:54.00thulagain, recruit me :-P
18:54.00NivFreakI have a macro that I use
18:54.05Pkekyo|NeoTron: he's just patriotic towards his own class...chuck him out of raids
18:54.09NeoTronthul: you're EU and horde :P doesn't help
18:54.32thul:-(
18:54.34Pkekyo|NivFreak: you better fucking be passively crush immune
18:54.35thuli got ally chars too :-(
18:54.39NeoTronthe other warrior is the current GM and part of the 3 person council I'm also in
18:54.42NivFreakPkekyo|: no, I'm not
18:54.50NivFreakbut I run a threat cycle that hits it every CD
18:54.50Pkekyo|then use shield block damnitr
18:54.51Pkekyo|-r
18:54.54NivFreakl2read
18:55.07NivFreak< NivFreak> I rarely even use shield block independant of revenge
18:55.12NivFreak< NivFreak> I have a macro that I use
18:55.20Pkekyo|NivFreakI rarely even use shield block independant of revenge <---- exactly what part of that expresses usage of a threat cycle?
18:55.31Pkekyo|also: macrowarr? getthefuckoutta'ere
18:55.33NivFreakyou don't revenge every 6 seconds?
18:56.04Pkekyo|yes I do
18:56.20NeoTronapparently this warrior also has "a hot key he uses for the important action of the fight"
18:56.20NivFreakthen having shield block on a macro with revenege gives you one less thing to manage
18:56.26Pkekyo|but I do it without being a onebutton macrospamming dongjob :)
18:56.34Pkekyo|NeoTron: he's an idiot
18:56.36NivFreakum
18:56.38NeoTronyes I agree
18:56.40NivFreakI don't spam 1 macro
18:56.44NightHawkTheSanemaking a simple macro is not being a one button spammer, it makes you smart.
18:56.45NeoTronfully
18:56.46NivFreakI use a macro for revenge/sb
18:56.50NivFreakit's the most common tanking macro out ther
18:56.51NivFreake
18:57.04NivFreakit allows me to be more situationally aware
18:57.07NivFreakand time my rotation
18:57.17NivFreakI don't think I could push 1100TPS with out it
18:57.25NightHawkTheSaneits not as if warriors don't already have several dozen buttons to worry about. ><
18:57.35NivFreakI just hate heroic strike
18:57.39NivFreak1.6sec spam
18:57.46NivFreakmy fingers cramp up after 3 hours or so
18:58.00thulhaha
18:58.10thultry to do subt rogue pvp:P
18:58.10NivFreakat least devastate eliminated sunder
18:58.13NivFreakthat was a great change
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18:58.36NivFreakthul: I have to do that while maintaining a SS/Revenge/SB/Devastate cycle
18:58.41NivFreakthere's no free time in my cycle
18:58.53thulerhm
18:59.00thuland you think that i have free time in my cycle? :-(
18:59.02NivFreakevery GCD something gets fired
18:59.05thul(for pve that is)
18:59.06Pkekyo|only tanking macros I have is popping a notice about last stand/shield wall in raid chat...I'm fully able to keep up a proper, constant threat cycle anyways, and make changes if so needed underway
18:59.10NivFreakplus I'm spamming a key off my cycle
18:59.12NeoTronNivFreak: 1100 TPS? please tell me how a warrior can do that
18:59.27NivFreakNeoTron: threat focused build and gear
18:59.32NeoTronthe warrior I talk about does like 500-700 TPS
18:59.49Pkekyo|once again, the warrior you talk about is an idiot :)
18:59.50NeoTronMT is a bit better but not 1100 TPS for sure (does that include PoM and stuff or just plain solo TPS)
18:59.53NivFreakNeoTron: fire him
19:00.02NivFreakNeoTron: that's peaks
19:00.08NeoTronyou have no idea how much I want to do that
19:00.10NivFreakI sit more around 950-1K for average
19:00.16NeoTronif I was the sole GM
19:00.17Pkekyo|NeoTron: then bloody do it
19:00.18NivFreakand low spots of 650
19:00.18NeoTronhe'd be gone
19:00.22NivFreakif i'm rage starved
19:00.23NeoTronPkekyo|: as I said I don't decide
19:00.28Pkekyo|boot your MT as well if he's prohibiting it, 'cause then he's an idiot too
19:00.35NeoTronhard to boot the GM
19:00.37NeoTronisn't it?
19:00.41NivFreakyes
19:00.44NivFreakI've been trying to boot ours
19:00.47NivFreakfor about a year
19:00.51Pkekyo|well, inject him with a dose of l2p
19:00.52NivFreakI think I'm going to leave instead
19:00.57NeoTronwe're farming now
19:01.04NeoTronso I'm not too worried
19:01.14NeoTronsunwell is possible first time I'll care truly again
19:01.25NeoTronbut come l80 I sure as hell will make sure we have good tanks
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19:04.01Pkekyo|NeoTron: hack your GMs acc and gquit :p
19:04.12NeoTronwe hjad this really good OT (he was DPS spec) but he was extremely fast at picking up lose adds and had quick reactions. ironically he played from some asian country and often had singificant latency
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19:04.47Pkekyo|when we got a new GM that turned out to be an obnoxious count I started an all-out mutony in the guild :p
19:04.53Pkekyo|90% of the original members left
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19:05.10KarlThePagana count not a duke eh?
19:05.19NeoTronjust hate to talk bad about someone who's a friend (because he is a friend) but neither him nor the other council member really are great players.
19:05.37Pkekyo|s/count/cunt/
19:05.48NeoTronI mean I dunno how many times we wiped on kael'thas because the MT didn't use his shield or used it too early or died from a flamestrike or heck, died from he purple cloud debuff in phase 5
19:05.54Pkekyo|why doesn't purl bloody correct my anywhere?
19:06.17Pkekyo|at that level in raiding, that just shouldn't happen tbh
19:06.22NeoTronright
19:06.35NeoTronI mean how hard is it t press the shield button after you see the 4 second cast timer starting
19:06.40NeoTronit's fricknig 4 seconds!
19:06.46NeoTronand don't use it beforehand - that's not hard
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19:07.11NeoTronironically he died twice when we went back recently to attune someone although one of the times he did DC
19:07.19Pkekyo|>.<
19:07.25NeoTronironically on the kill he died from a flamestrike but the OT somehow managed to get aggro
19:07.36NeoTronin phase 5
19:07.50EllipsisPkekyo|: purl can only correct the last line you said, you said something afterwards so it forgot the line you wanted to actually correct
19:07.51NeoTronand a enhancement shammy tanked him for a bit. that was funny
19:08.17Pkekyo|Ellipsis: was purl nerfed?
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19:08.36Pkekyo|NeoTron: get new tanks alltogether :)
19:08.47EllipsisPkekyo|: your mom was nerfed
19:09.55NeoTronPkekyo|: hard position to be in
19:10.30NeoTrona previous council member (feral druid) was just really bad. he was essentially fired as such (bad attendance too) but stopped playing the game thank god
19:11.18Pkekyo|Ellipsis: yes, and onyxia now deep breathes more!
19:11.19Ellipsistrue story
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19:12.10Pkekyo|also: YOUR FACE
19:12.46Ellipsisno u :(
19:13.03Pkekyo|ok :)
19:13.10GnarfozKirkburn|sleep: is Calibri v1 not so good to look at on LCDs? it looks reaaaally weird on my new screen :<
19:13.25NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: it looks fine for me? o_0
19:13.29EsotericKPkekyo|: I take it you're alliance or just really immature? (<3) jk
19:13.39Pkekyo|EsotericK: neither :)
19:13.55GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: it has all sorts of "crumpledness" and is just not smooth anymore :<
19:14.02NightHawkTheSaneEsotericK: the latter. :P
19:14.29NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: *shrug* either its something specific to you, or i'm just not bothered by it :P
19:15.32GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: CRTs look way smoother, I guess :>
19:15.47NightHawkTheSanei beg to differ, but *shrug* :)
19:15.59Pkekyo|CRTs look nasty
19:17.16GnarfozLCDs are touted for their crispness and sharpness, how can they be smooth at the same time? ;)
19:17.23NeoTronmain thing I ahte about LCD's is the fixed useful resolution
19:17.35NeoTronGnarfoz: subpixel anti-aliasing?
19:17.45GnarfozNeoTron: trickery!
19:18.00GnarfozNeoTron: also, does WoW use it? :|
19:18.19Gnarfozand does Calibri v1 have the necessary data for it to look good?
19:18.26GnarfozI should probably try another font ^^
19:18.33Gnarfozhttp://trash.crew.c-base.org/CTV116%20I%20want%20more%20porn.mp4 < bestest song evar. SFW.
19:19.01Pkekyo|20:17GnarfozLCDs are touted for their crispness and sharpness, how can they be smooth at the same time?  <--- you mean blurry, not smooth...there's a difference
19:19.11NightHawkTheSaneits not a matter of the font having the data for sub-pixel anti-aliasing to look good
19:19.29Gnarfozit helps :|
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19:27.37NeoTronGnarfoz: doubt it :P
19:28.48array{Endeavour}how to get the player's current target?
19:29.07Ellipsisget what about it/
19:29.09Ellipsis?
19:29.20array{Endeavour}SendChatMessage("BlaBla", "WHISPER", nil, %t") doesn't work :(
19:29.34EllipsisUnitName("target")
19:29.35Gnarfozthen I wonder how it is that the font that looked good yesterday on my CRT now looks bad on my LCD :(
19:29.45array{Endeavour}Yay, thanks!
19:33.20NeoTronknow of any TPS calculators for warriors?
19:33.29NeoTronlike some spreadsheet or something
19:33.41genetikthere's one on elitistjerks
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19:38.25phyberIs there a "SHUT THE FUCK UP" button for Cartographer Database Sharing, or do I have to go in and chop out all of the Prints?
19:39.40Gnarfoz?
19:40.01phyber1937.48 Database sharing: Received note from Garrick from Guild
19:40.01phyber1937.48 Database sharing: Scanning for duplicate within 10 yards/meters, found Highland Mixed School
19:40.04phyber1937.48 Database sharing: Highland Mixed School Note received from Garrick from Guild discarded due to duplicate. Highland Mixed School
19:40.08phyberlike, wow, i really /care
19:40.20Gnarfozyou could simply update if you still have a version that has debug stuff in it (I reckon there was something like that quite a while ago), or disable the "you received a shared note" stuff.
19:40.37phyberI update daily.
19:41.22Gnarfozdo the other thing then.
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19:43.32phyberahh, it's Cartographer_Noteshare putting it's options in stupid places!
19:44.30phyberoh well.  it's quiet now.
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20:05.31NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:06.54Tornhoofeoa is not a proper comparison ;)
20:07.02NeoTronah sure it is
20:07.06NeoTronit's a quick nuke fight
20:07.17NeoTronthe kind of fight where dps should be pretty equal
20:07.34durcyni pulled aggro on our last eoa kill =(
20:07.52durcyndidn't even know that was possible, but damn
20:07.56NeoTronI actually had to slow dps slightly for that reason
20:08.06Chompersi just see 'This is an anonymous report - Logs from : Tabris - Client v1.9.8c'
20:08.12Chompersshould i see something else?
20:08.18NeoTronthe WWS report
20:08.21NeoTronjavascript?
20:08.27NeoTronsince they redid the site it's kind of sucked imho
20:09.21buuNeoTron: Why?
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20:10.29xyufor me, it's been buggy.   30 min queues at 4am and then like 3 minutes into the queue it disconnects
20:10.30Primerok, milestone one of FlightHUD complete
20:10.38Primerhttp://sh.nu/FlightHUD.zip
20:10.47Primerhttp://sh.nu/ss44.jpg <-- screenshot
20:11.28NeoTronbuu: why it sucks?
20:11.40Pkekyo|Primer: what does it do?
20:11.50Pkekyo|basicly, it's a compass?
20:11.50NeoTronbuu: because I keep getting warnigns from firefox about the site taking too long to process the page, asking if I want to cancel the running javascript
20:11.56NeoTronamong other things
20:12.00Pkekyo|- a huge, green compass cluttering the screen?
20:12.18buuNeoTron: What kind of output would you like to see
20:12.20buu?
20:12.39NeoTronbuu: output is mostly fine, it's the client side processing that's the main issue
20:12.40kergothi could see a compass being useful, just needs to be less ugly
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20:12.49PrimerPkekyo|: check the screenshot
20:12.53NeoTronalthough  it kind of bugs me the "summary" info is not on the "first" page anymore
20:13.00PrimerPkekyo|: but yeah, that's basically all it does so far
20:13.11NeoTronPrimer: trying to make WoW into a flight simulator? :P
20:13.28PrimerNeoTron: for that I'd need pitch
20:13.34Primerthat's milestone 3 :)
20:14.14Primermilestone 2 will be waypoints/markers (thinking of just integrating Cartographer points for now)
20:15.07Primerand by that I mean, overlaying them onto the HUD
20:15.09buuNeoTron: Did I show you my pretty pictures?
20:15.58Pkekyo|Primer: I did check the screenshot... and all I can see is a huge green compass bloating the screen
20:16.11PrimerPkekyo|: why all the hate? :(
20:16.26Pkekyo|I don't hate it
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20:16.37Pkekyo|if I hated it, I'd truly rip you a new one
20:16.54Pkekyo|I'm just questioning the need for it
20:17.30kergothi could see using a compass ifyou're one of those crazy people that have rotate minimap on, so you know where the hell you're going
20:18.14Primerkergoth: it's untested with rotating minimap, btw
20:18.25Primerbut I have code in there that (supposedly) accounts for it
20:19.20PrimerPkekyo|: I wanted to be able to do something like this: I have an epic flyer and riding crop, so I know that making a beeline from shat to cosmo == faster than taking the FP
20:19.32Polarinakergoth: You call me crasy?!? Grr...
20:19.37kergoth:)
20:19.57Primerso, I mount up, fly straight up, and knowing that cosmo in bearing 42 from shat, I point my flyer at 42, and off I go
20:20.06vithosi want to use rotate minimap, but last time i tried cartographer's minimap stuff didn't rotate with it
20:20.16CIA-4803jncl * r59330 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
20:20.16CIA-48Skinner: Skinned TomTom
20:20.16CIA-48- Actually use the included Guild_Log skin
20:20.16CIA-48- Updated OptionHouse, TourGuide, AucAdvanced, Guild_Log skins
20:20.16CIA-48- BugFix for the Guild Control Panel
20:20.23buuPrimer: Now draw way point type markers on the compass.
20:20.30CIA-4803peragor * r59334 10GridDynamicZoneSwitch/GridDynamicZoneSwitch.toc:
20:20.30CIA-48GridDynamicZoneSwitch:
20:20.30CIA-48- Added optional dependency for GridLayoutPlus.
20:20.39Primerbuu: that's the next step
20:21.00Primerbuu: but I want to be able to do cross-zone markers
20:21.11Primeras in, see the cosmo point from shat
20:22.14Pkekyo|Primer: not a bad idea...however, it's incredibly bloated, you don't even need a quarter of that size
20:22.24NeoTronFisker-: *boggle*
20:22.34Fisker-MAN BYGGER DA BARE EN DIGE AF NOGET HESTEMØG
20:22.42PrimerPkekyo|: I've been hacking at this on and off for only 2 days
20:22.52PrimerPkekyo|: this is version 0.0.0.0.1
20:22.56NeoTronPrimer: so I just use a cart waypoint :P
20:23.13PrimerNeoTron: can those span zones though?
20:23.19NeoTronyes
20:23.57PrimerPkekyo|: I'm planing on making it movable and scalable
20:24.04NeoTronFisker-: förstår inte vad det där sista ordet är..
20:24.47Primeryeah, rotate minimap code doesn't work
20:25.28Pkekyo|Primer: here's my suggestion: make it the width of a standard (square) minimap, and dock it below it.... would unbloat it a whole lot
20:26.15PrimerPkekyo|: I'll make that optional
20:26.37PrimerI was trying to follow a true fighter jet style HUD theme
20:26.44Primerwhere it displays in the center
20:26.52NeoTronomg this warrior man - last illidan kill he used exactly zero revenge
20:26.53NeoTronwtf
20:26.57Primerbut originally I was hoping to have pitch as well
20:27.59Primerand elevation
20:28.13NeoTronis there even a way to measure elevation?
20:28.29Primeryou know, the full range of aviation HUD stuff
20:28.37Pkekyo|Primer: then make a bloody crosshair :p
20:28.39PrimerNeoTron: various hacks have been suggested
20:28.53Primerbut none would be truly accurate (from what I'm told)
20:29.53PrimerPkekyo|: perhaps I'll have Vulcan canon sights too
20:29.53Primerand a fire button
20:29.53Primerso you can pretend to shoot stuff while flying
20:30.07NeoTronmy netherdrake needs a minigun and heat seeking missiles added
20:30.40Pkekyo|Primer: bloody better...would be sooo cool with the engineering mount :p
20:31.03NeoTronI liked how mythbusters finally managed to blow up a tank of propane with a minigun with  indendiary ammo
20:31.13Primeryeah, I could add a reticule with an event handler for the texture being over another player
20:31.16Primerand show distance
20:31.24NeoTrons/indend/incend/
20:31.26Pkekyo|Primer: it also needs a button that will say "Fox Two" or something :p
20:31.59Primerand, if you're close enough you hear a beeping and the HUD flashes red to show that you're "within range"
20:32.10PrimerPkekyo|: yeah!
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20:32.55Pkekyo|Primer: you're dreaming....but it's a REALLY cool dream xD
20:33.10Pkekyo|btw, mouse could control the aiming reticule :p
20:33.49NeoTron"This issue was briefly fixed but appears to be re-occurring, a new fix will be in a future patch." <= ah another example wheer blizzard fixes a bug and then breaks it in a subsequent patch
20:33.52Pkekyo|that would just be too cool tbh ^^
20:34.13kergothwtb blizzard regression testing before releases
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20:37.36NivFreakwhat now?
20:37.37NivFreakheh
20:37.58NeoTronblack bow of the betrayer breaking scatter shot
20:38.12NeoTronjust one in the row of many reoccuring bugs
20:38.24NeoTronalthough I think aran and gruul were worse since those issues reappeared more than once
20:38.44array{Endeavour}<PROTECTED>
20:39.35array{Endeavour}wrote email, read that page, added --~~~~....
20:39.54Ellipsisit takes a while for the emails to be processed
20:40.38array{Endeavour}ah okay, thanks
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20:41.40CIA-4803xinhuan * r59335 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/GatherMate_Sharing.lua: GatharMate_Sharing: Fix a typo
20:41.51deltronarray{Endeavour}: what's it do?
20:42.27CIA-4803pb_ee1 * r59336 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Adding UBRS dungeon access
20:42.59CIA-4803xinhuan * r59337 10/branches/GatherMate_Sharing/: GatharMate_Sharing: Add properties
20:43.00NivFreakman it was nice to have pets in grid finally
20:43.12deltrono?
20:43.20NivFreakthat was my last remaining complaint I think
20:43.30deltronthat's pretty awesome
20:43.35NivFreakyea
20:43.46NivFreakworks great with dynamiclayouts too
20:43.56deltronI use default grid :P
20:44.13NivFreakI like the role based sorting
20:44.32[SW]Dodgenevcairiel: the program you have posted for better fps... does it work for you?
20:44.35NivFreakI do wish it would collapse empty columns though
20:44.52deltronyeah, no need for that extra wasted space
20:44.57nevcairielas mentioned earlier, it only works for my loading screens, not for my fps
20:45.14[SW]Dodgeit makes your loading faster?
20:45.56NivFreakman the armory is so f'd up lately
20:45.57NeoTronI am guessing that 2.3.2 made the loading benefit go away?
20:46.04NeoTronat least that's how I read the patch notes
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20:57.29cc-workwhich server is elitistjerks irc on?
20:57.52shieldbgamesurge
20:58.04cc-workirc.gamesurge.net ?
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21:05.41shieldbhmm, any good way to get baggins to keep two of the same item apart?
21:05.56shieldblike I've got two T6 shoulders (rogue)
21:06.05shieldbone has regular dps gems/enchant on it
21:06.12shieldbthe other has void spheres/resist enchant on it
21:06.53shieldbbut baggins always tosses them in the same category even if I'm using something like a tooltip scan for +4 Resist All as a filter on one
21:07.20shieldbor using closetgnome sets as a filter, for that matter
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21:15.28Roathanyone who knows where i can read about "Using previously saved variables" correctly, cant get the example on wowwiki to work :S
21:16.18Primer!rating 1555
21:16.19Xinhuan1555 rating gives 407(5s), 358(3s) and 309(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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21:28.02Roathhow do i add stuff to the OnLoad Handler if i dont use an XML for it?
21:28.15nevcairielyou dont
21:28.16CIA-4803morgalm * r59339 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc plugins/morgdkp/Morgresults.php):
21:28.16CIA-48MorgDKP:
21:28.16CIA-48- Fixed trash loot appearing under start raid instead of run raid
21:28.16CIA-48- Fixed trash loot being recorded 2x (morgimport)
21:28.21nevcairieljust call the stuff you need directly
21:29.21Roathhttp://pastebin.com/m5002e20a
21:29.34Roathi tried calling the functions directly, didn't work
21:29.47Josh_Borkeroath:  and what is "this" in that first function?
21:30.21Roaththe addon i guess? i copied it from wowwiki
21:31.06dylanmI guess if he's calling it from <OnLoad>
21:31.06Roathhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions
21:31.16Roathi dont use any XML file
21:31.46dylanmI mean what's the frame here
21:32.04CIA-4803pettigrow 07Ace3 * r59340 10Routes/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: Routes: frFR Update
21:32.32Roathframe? im trying to check if the variables are loaded so i can get what they contain
21:32.47Roathnot doing anything with frames except hiding and showing the gryphons
21:32.53dylanmIf you want events, you need a frame.
21:33.01Roathso i need XML?
21:33.06CIA-4803xinhuan * r59341 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Add a FAQ section
21:33.29dylanmNo, you could easily do a CreateFrame"Frame".
21:33.45Roathhow? sry for the noob questions, dont know much about lua
21:34.21Kivinhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
21:34.48dylanmRoath: Take a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29#Using_Lua_only
21:39.08RoathNice, now it works, thanks both of you :D
21:39.40RoathI will give you credit for helping me make it work, want me to use your nick here or an ingame name & realm?
21:39.55NeoTronkergoth: what do you do with green gems / adamantite dust after prospecting?
21:40.10NeoTronI just made ... a lot of rings and necklaces (blue ones that use mercurial adamantite)
21:41.08Roathadamantite dust can be turned into mercurial adamantite
21:41.18NeoTronRoath: yeah I know that
21:41.22NeoTronbut by itself ihas little value
21:41.35Roathyeah
21:41.35NeoTronbut combined with some eternium bars it makes a large prismatic shard..
21:41.46Roathnice, didn't know that
21:41.52NeoTroncalculated he cost of the 3-MA neck to be about 18g an th 4 one about 23g
21:41.56kergothi've just been vendoring the dust, but crafting something to de souns like a better idea
21:42.06NeoTronstill sellable at a profit (based on AH prices for my server)
21:42.08kergothfor the green gems, i use them for earthstorm transmutes and AH a stack here and there
21:42.32NeoTronI don't have the 3-MA neck yet but if I find the pattern for 200g I only need to makea bout 40 of them to make a profit over the 4 MA one
21:43.04NeoTrongreen gems make 3 different green gems that gives dust, essences or small prismatic shard (5%)
21:43.09OsstiaWith SVN, do you guys checkout right to your addons directory?  and modify the codde there?  or do you have a working directory and copy the files into your addons for testing?
21:43.14NeoTrons/gems that/rings that/
21:43.29GrumOsstia: i work in my wow dir directly
21:43.55NeoTronI've been ahing cut green gems but making rings is probably better
21:44.00durcynOsstia: i svn checkout to a location on my fileserver then sync three clients from it.. if you only have one client, then you might as well go directly to it
21:44.08NeoTronI just sent enough stuff to a friend to DE to give me around 1400g worth of enchanting mats
21:44.09OsstiaGrum: then if you were to do a "release" of your addon.  do you manually stip out the SVN info?  (.svn and such)
21:44.17Grumeuuh no?
21:44.22Grumofc not
21:44.42Xinhuanyou do svn export
21:44.43Grumjust put it on the right spot on the svn here, fix the externals .. and it will get packaged :P
21:44.44Osstiaexcuse me for being somewhat ignorant here
21:44.50Xinhuanthen zip the exported folder
21:44.59Roathanyone know why even thou i use "CastingBarFrame:ClearAllPoints();CastingBarFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 0, 285);" it still wont move the castingbar?
21:45.21OsstiaI'm nowhere near having an addon suitable for releasein any way, just more or less curious
21:45.25KivinRoath: Make sure you :ClearAllPoints() first
21:45.36KivinOne :SetPoint can't trump an old :SetPoint
21:45.41Kivinoh wait,
21:45.51Kivindidn't see that all crunched onto one line
21:46.24Roathhehe, well it is on two lines, just didn't want to write it seperately here
21:46.46Kivinwell if you're changing the anchor, my guess is that frameXML is restoring it's anchors or something
21:47.07Roathit works if i use a corner instead of a side as an anchor, eg. BOTTOMLEFT
21:47.16Roathbut i want it to be centered >.<
21:47.51Kivinerm, can't think of any reason why "BOTTOM" wouldn't work, but "BOTTOMLEFT" would
21:48.23Roathi got the same thing with the shapeshift and petbar
21:48.38Kivingoing to pastey something
21:51.10Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81224
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21:51.38Kivin'Frame' needs to be subbed with the name of the frame you're moving, and 'self' needs to be subbed with the pointer to your ace addon
21:51.56Kivinit'll do a chat dump of all the points that the frame has set
21:52.03Roathi dont use any ace libs
21:52.09Kivinoh o.O
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21:52.27Roathonly thing aced i got installed atm is buggrabber and bugsack
21:52.35Kivinthen... why are you here?
21:52.43Roathwhere else should i ask?
21:52.48KivinI have no idea
21:53.29Roathexactly, i thought this would be the best place to ask :S
21:53.36Kivinwell, then, adapt the :Print command in that snippit to a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage
21:53.53Roathok
21:54.00Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81225
21:54.34Kivintoss that snippit in after you :ClearAllPoints, :SetPoint your frame
21:55.15Roathyeah it works, it prints out what i have in my SetPoint()
21:55.22Kivinthere's only one point, then?
21:55.51Roathit says Point(1) so i guess so
21:55.54Kivinyeah
21:56.15Roathhang on, will write exactly what it prints
21:56.28Kivinno need
21:56.35KivinI'm going to shorten it so it'll fit in a macro
21:56.51Kivini want to see it after the frame you :SetPoint gets :Show()n
21:57.13Roathaah
21:57.24Roathim trying to do it on the castingbar
21:58.10Roathmoving it that is
21:58.19Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81226
21:58.30Kivinthat's < 255 chars, hopefully still is once you change Frame to your frame's name
21:58.42Kivinfix the frame name and post it into a macro button
21:58.59Kivinlet the cast bar become visible once (by casting a spell) then push the macro button
21:59.22Roathdont i need to att /script in front of it?
21:59.28Kivinyes, you do
21:59.33Kivinand take out the new lines
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22:00.24Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81228  < for the sake of being explicit
22:00.56Kivinoh, and there's too many close brackets at the end.  change ))) end to )) end
22:02.15Kivingot to run to the store, be back in 10 minutes
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22:13.26Kivinso, is it just the one point, still?
22:14.05Pkekyo|anyone know a proper DW fury attack cycle?
22:14.23Kivin<- knows very little about fury
22:14.39Kivinfast weapon in both hands + heroic strike ad nauseum?
22:15.25Pkekyo|I was fury from lvl 45 to 47...two years ago :p
22:15.26Roathi get an error with the macro
22:15.32Pkekyo|Kivin: no, slow weapon in both hands
22:15.48Roath[2008/01/24 23:09:03-205-x1]: <string>:"for i = 1, CastingBarFrame:GetNumPoints() do local a,b,c,d,e = ...":1: unexpected symbol near ')'
22:15.49KarlThePaganbloodthirst spam?
22:15.57KarlThePaganww as much as possible!
22:16.01Kivin<Kivin> oh, and there's too many close brackets at the end.  change ))) end to )) end
22:16.01Kivin<Kivin> got to run to the store, be back in 10 minutes
22:16.04KarlThePaganbecause WW hits with both weapons
22:16.26Kivinand gets you dead if there's more than one mob and another warrior tanking :P
22:16.31KarlThePaganduh
22:16.38KarlThePaganI'm assuming he's solo ;)
22:16.41Pkekyo|KarlThePagan: I asked for proper fury attack cycles, not randomly mash every ability off cooldown :
22:16.43Pkekyo|:p
22:16.54[Liquidor].999~ = 1 ? *lmao*
22:16.56KivinPkekyo|: EJ
22:17.02Roath2 points now
22:17.07Kivinaha
22:17.10Kivinwhats the one you didn't set
22:17.14Kivinor are they both not yours
22:17.15KarlThePaganPkekyo|, is it even possible to have a consistent attack cycle on a rage-based character?
22:17.21Roathpoint 1 is mine
22:17.26Kivinand what's point two
22:17.29Roathi recommend the number and attachments
22:17.40Roathone sec
22:17.58KivinKarlThePagan: I would think s
22:18.06Kivins/s/so
22:18.14RoathPoint[2]:BOTTOM,table: 0D917C40,BOTTOM,0,175
22:18.21Guardixmessing with the castingbar :p?
22:18.35Kivinthat's fucking weird, it reanchors itself.  Probably on <OnShow>
22:18.36KarlThePaganimo rage generation it too spikey to have a rotation like you can have with hunters or casters, or even rogue/druid
22:18.55KarlThePaganbbiab
22:18.56Roathi need to check when it shows and anchor it then, right?
22:19.31KivinI'm not even sure how to hook that since the :Show() is shared between all UIObjects
22:19.43Osstiais it possible he has another addon just stomping on him?
22:19.58KivinNot just possible, but probable
22:20.10Roathall i have is the addon i work on and buggrabber
22:20.18Osstiabut i guess that wouldn't make sense because he is doing a ClearAllPoints().  Shouldn't that remove what the other addon is doing?
22:20.25Kivini'm checking the FrameXML
22:20.46KivinOsstia: I think the FrameXML or other addon is doing it at <OnShow>, he's doing it on POW or OnLoad or something
22:21.12Fisker-damnit
22:21.15Osstiaokay, that would make more sense
22:21.25Fisker-now we'll probably get a 2.3.3.1 or 2.3.4 because of exploiting faggots
22:21.34OsstiaFisker-: ?
22:21.34Roathany suggestions how i get it to work then? :P
22:21.58KivinRoath: Is the frame you're anchoring named "CastingBarFrame"?
22:22.03Roathyes
22:22.42Fisker-Osstia there's an exploit to cast while you're movign
22:22.43Fisker-moving
22:22.44KivinThe only :SetPoint that appears in it's scripting is for it's spark
22:23.08Osstiableh
22:23.43Kivinthe point you chatdumped doesn't even match FrameXML
22:24.02Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81230
22:24.07OsstiaKivin: the casting bar is Shown/Hidden on each cast right?
22:24.32KivinOsstia: Highly probable
22:24.42Roathvery odd, where does it then get the point from :/
22:25.18KivinSure your addon isn't setting the point somewhere else that you've forgotten about
22:25.26Roathill do a search
22:26.08CivrockIs there a way to make my combatlog text translucent?
22:26.22CivrockUsing SimpleCombatlog btw.
22:26.22ramozFisker-: how?
22:26.52Roathnope, CastingBarFrame is only called to twice, that is to :ClearAllPoints() and :SetPoint()
22:26.52Kivinhttp://ace.pastey.net/81231 <- that's what happens when you start casting, Roath
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22:27.32ramoz~lart Fisker-
22:27.32purlbrandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Fisker-!" and lops off Fisker-'s head
22:27.37KivinCivrock: don't think so
22:27.37Zarielsigh, cant have "Two nelfs no lube" as an arena team :(
22:27.48CivrockHrmm.
22:28.00Fisker-ramoz sploitz
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22:30.02RoathKivin: i read it, not that i understood much of it
22:30.03ramozwhat sploitz
22:30.15KivinRoath: The point was, it does nothing of consequence
22:30.40Kivinwell, Roath.  I can only think of two things: Ask someone more knowledgable like Xinhuan, or look up another addon that moves the castbar and ripoff it's code
22:31.02Roathok
22:31.34ZarielWhat you trying to do?
22:31.41KivinHe wants to move CastingBarFrame
22:32.07ZarielCastingBarFrame:SetMoveable ?
22:33.03Roathi can move it np, just not when i attach it at BOTTOM BOTTOM
22:33.14Roathonly if i use a corner of the castbarframe like BOTTOMLEFT
22:33.25Roathbut i want it to be centered
22:33.37Zarielonto what?
22:33.54Roaththe screen
22:34.11Roathonly horisontally, not vertically
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22:34.21ZarielCastingBarFrame:SetPoint("CENTRE", UIParent, "CENTRE") or something
22:34.35Zarielthen just move it with x /y
22:34.47ZarielCastingBarFrame:SetPoint("CENTRE", UIParent, "CENTRE", 0, -150)
22:34.57Zarielduno if its EU/US spelling of centre
22:35.03Roathnope, doesn't work
22:35.08Roathwe use "CENTER"
22:35.12OsstiaUS is CENTER
22:35.18RoathEU too
22:35.29Roathi tried what you just suggest, it doesn't move it
22:35.33Zarielput a CastingBarFrame:ClearAllPoints()
22:35.39Zarielabove that code
22:35.42Roathalready got that
22:36.00Xinhuanso i scrolled up
22:36.02Xinhuanand read that stuff
22:36.13KivinSo wtf is adding the new point
22:36.21Xinhuanfrom what i'm reading, it appears you have an addon that is moving the casting bar back to its original spot
22:36.27Xinhuandisable some of your addons and try again :)
22:36.27Roathnop
22:36.32KivinHe says he's not using any other addons
22:36.33Roathonly got the addon im working on
22:36.37Roathand buggrabber
22:36.45Roathno other addon installed or anything
22:36.56Xinhuani cannot explain why the casting bar is moving itself back then
22:37.42Roathi mean, i can move it fine by using a corner of its frame as a point, eg CastingBarFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, -150)
22:38.00Roathbut it doesn't work if i use a side like LEFT, TOP, BOTTOM or RIGHT
22:38.44deadhey guys
22:38.55Xinhuanwell like i said, i don't know why :)
22:39.00Lightfaz~seen kirkburn
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22:39.02KivinThat's because the point2 is clobbering yours or something
22:39.10Kivinwhere as they work together if you use a corner
22:39.16deadwhat is a 'coordinate' mod called, under which section? and. which section is a [levelquest] mod at?
22:39.18Xinhuanwell he already Cleared all the points
22:39.21Xinhuanso there is no point 2
22:39.26Kivinthere is
22:39.31Kivinscroll up more =/
22:39.50Kivin<Roath> Point[2]:BOTTOM,table: 0D917C40,BOTTOM,0,175
22:39.53KirkburnLightfaz, you can just say hello :P
22:40.10Xinhuanwhat's point[1] then?
22:40.19PrimerXinhuan: http://sh.nu/FlightHUD/
22:40.20Roaththe point i set it to in the LUA
22:40.21krkaRoath: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
22:40.27LightfazHaha could, just dont know if youd see it or if youre even online or not ;)
22:40.38LightfazBut yeah, tried changing the BOLD_ to NORMAL_ and its still bolded
22:40.44Xinhuangeeze just ClearAllPoints() again
22:41.18Roathafter i set the point, or?
22:41.36XinhuanOH.
22:41.44Xinhuanwait let me check something
22:41.49Roathsince i already do it once before i set the point
22:41.50Roathok
22:41.57Xinhuani think i know why
22:42.23XinhuanUIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS = {
22:42.27Xinhuan["CastingBarFrame"] = {baseY = true, yOffset = 40, bottomEither = actionBarOffset, pet = 1, reputation = 1};
22:42.30Xinhuan}
22:42.42deadDoes anyone know?
22:42.59Xinhuangrats, CastingBar is a frame that the core UI will automatically move its position
22:43.22Roath>.< and i guess its secure too so i cant move it in combat >.<
22:43.40Xinhuanits not secure
22:43.54Xinhuanits just that UIParent likes to move it back to its original position
22:43.58Xinhuanwhat you need to add to your code
22:44.17Xinhuanexecute this once: UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS["CastingBarFrame"] = nil
22:44.25Xinhuanjust put it at the top of your file
22:44.30deadWho is the maker of Bartender3?
22:44.32deadI have a problem
22:44.43nevcairielwhat problem?
22:44.49OsstiaXinhuan: where did you find that?
22:44.54Osstiajust out of curiosity
22:44.56XinhuanUIParent.lua
22:44.59Xinhuanline 929
22:45.14OsstiaThank you
22:45.15Roathwoot, adding that single line fixed it :D
22:45.39KivinHeh, that's why I said talk to Xinhuan :P I think he has the entire FrameXML memorized, or something
22:45.42Xinhuanif you want UIParent to manage your frame positions, its pretty easy to add a frame to that table too
22:45.45deadnevcairiel, it works good except the left and right action bars dont dissapear
22:45.56deadnevcairiel, maybe its me, do you know what bars number they are
22:45.58Xinhuani kinda like it
22:46.13nevcairieldead: the bartender bars or the default blizzard bars?
22:46.25deadblizzard bars
22:46.44nevcairielyou have to disable them in the interface options, uncheck all actionbars there
22:46.58deadOH THANKS NEVCAIRIEL
22:47.00deadim so dumb
22:47.14XinhuanKivin: heh
22:47.41deadand..
22:47.52deadi cant seem to move my chat window
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22:48.00deadthe red button wont come back
22:48.03Ellipsismmm sushi
22:48.19OsstiaI need to move closer to a sushi joint
22:48.27deadwe should
22:48.29dead:)
22:48.37nevcairielyou have a red button on your chat window?
22:48.39nevcairieli dont
22:48.40nevcairiel:D
22:48.44deadyes
22:48.49deadto move, make, or delete a window
22:48.53deadit wont come up
22:48.56deadso i can move it
22:49.02nevcairieli use the chat tab for that
22:49.10Osstiaas do I, right click on the tab
22:49.18deadit wont let me click any tabs
22:49.22deadthat is what i am trying to say
22:49.40Ellipsisunlock chat settings in interface options
22:49.41nevcairielmaybe a hidden bartender bar lies over that?
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22:50.30deadok somehow i just made the bartender3 icon disspear near my minimap
22:50.34dead*shoots himself*
22:50.39nevcairiellol
22:50.48OzguliI don't want to see the stupid button
22:50.53Ozguli/bob config
22:51.06nevcairiel./bt3 fubar minimapAttach
22:51.09nevcairielshould bring it back
22:51.24Ozguliexcept that I use different addon
22:51.24nevcairielfubarplugin is kinda weird there, if you hide the button once, it'll never come back
22:51.25Ozgulinvm
22:51.43Ozguliyou might understand why my friends think I use mushrooms
22:51.51nevcairielyou dont?
22:52.21Ozgulino I don't
22:52.26Ozguliafaik
22:52.35Ozgulibut I don't sleep either
22:53.28deadIs there a way to move the arrows in a chat window, and the Chat bubble icon?
22:54.00deadOk now my F1-F12 key binds are not there in the lower left
22:54.04deadmaybe this isnt for me
22:54.39nevcairielyou need to rebind your keys if you switch bar addons
22:54.46nevcairielthats normal
22:55.01CIA-4803xbeeps 07Ace3 * r59342 10VisualHeal/ (GridStatusVisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.toc):
22:55.01CIA-48VisualHeal:
22:55.01CIA-48- Added Grid module by wesleydungan (untested)
22:55.01CIA-48- Use SetFormattedText instead of SetText were appropriate to generate less garbage.
22:55.08deadin the addon itself nevcairiel?
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22:55.30nevcairielnah in the keybindings UI, like before, but you have to scroll some way down to the Bartender3 section
22:55.58deadoh
22:56.02deadthere is a section for that?
22:56.06nevcairielyea
22:56.09deadnever knew
22:56.11deadO_O
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23:00.10Kanneif you have a macro to /cast Rapor Strike; /cast Arcane Shot will that just do either?
23:00.39buuProbably.
23:02.16CIA-4803xinhuan * r59343 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: Different databases will now each use a different tracking circle color
23:02.21KivinKanne: probably, because i use /cast Kill Command /cast Steady Shot and it works
23:03.26CIA-4803xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r59344 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua:
23:03.26CIA-48LibHealComm-3.0:
23:03.26CIA-48- Destroy internal databases on zoning to keep a natural limit on the size of internal data (mostly applicable when doing many battlegrounds in sequence).
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23:08.10Primercharacter movement cannot be effected via an addon, correct?
23:08.20Primereven stopping autorun?
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23:09.06Primerckknight: http://sh.nu/FlightHUD/
23:09.25PrimerI cheated and used 2 images
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23:09.36Primerin the end I think it was simpler
23:11.04RaydenUnii have an idea for a mod
23:11.38RaydenUnibut you guys will have to wait to hear it
23:11.42RaydenUnii want to draw up some diagrams first
23:12.46deadIs there a way to make the chat window icon arrows hidden?
23:12.56PrimerRaydenUni: the suspense is killing me!
23:12.57Kivinprat has a module that does that
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23:13.05NivFreakdead: prat does it
23:13.15RaydenUniall i can say is the idea came up during my online identity class today
23:13.26RaydenUniand it wouldn't be practical to actually use
23:13.27deadprat?
23:13.29RaydenUni:(
23:13.32RaydenUniat least as a mod
23:13.32deadlet me look on the site
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23:14.26deadthanks
23:15.37PrimerIs there a way to create a "bland" texture and apply color to the non-transparent portions programatically?
23:15.49bleeternevcairiel: just wondering whether the 'decreased load times' indicated in the 2.3.3 patch notes would be a result of investigating that WMP foo. Any thoughts? (it'd *seem* to me that a Wine 'bug' has 'mysteriously' vanished for me, that may be related)
23:16.12Primeror perhaps make a texture that's a mask, and set a background color to the frame?
23:16.21nevcairielNot sure, the WMP thing still seems to help, tho
23:16.36Primerbleeter: what wine bug?
23:16.44Primerfor me it was taking AGES for everything to render in wine
23:17.02deadhey is damage meter still in existence?
23:17.10NeoTronbleeter: I am pretty sure that is what it is yes
23:17.23PrimerI haven't tried it in wine since the patch though
23:17.48bleeterlemme grab the wine bugzilla number
23:18.04CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59345 10Mapster/Config.lua: Mapster: make sure we have a tree childgroup if some addon inherits our config table ( like /ace3 )
23:18.07bleeterhttp://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7229
23:18.55bleeterseemed to be some freaky threading foo, I usually hit it on logout but since 2.3.3 I haven't seen it. No 'me too' additions to the bug since 2.3.3 either
23:19.05CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59346 10Mapster/Config.lua: Mapster: fix typo, doh
23:19.15bleeterNeoTron: hmm, interesting
23:19.22bleeterbah, was meant for nevcairiel
23:19.49NivFreakbleeter: which wine bug?
23:19.56NivFreakthe models not loading for 12 years?
23:20.03NivFreakoh
23:20.04NivFreakyou linked it
23:21.35chiperdead: there are multiple damage meters.  the current champ is Recount
23:21.47NivFreakcan you pause recount yet? :)
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23:23.04bleeterdead: for the record, the 'current' Damage Meters, as opposed to damage meter mods in general, is from CosmosUI.org
23:23.25CIA-4803xinhuan * r59347 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: Add option to control tracking distance (the distance to a node before it changes to a tracking circle). Fix an update bug from last commit.
23:23.27bleeterhowever, as chiper indicates, Recount is highly considered by many, too
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23:25.09array{Endeavour}i personally like violation
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23:25.28array{Endeavour}multiple windows, syncing with other damage addons
23:26.14CIA-4803xinhuan * r59348 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Localize the new options
23:26.30bleeternot to mention, all current damage and threat measuring mods will break in 2.4... so to my mind the question's kinda moot at this point until 2.4 comes out and we can all re-evaluate the mods that survive the change
23:27.08NeoTronsyncing is overrated
23:27.18NeoTronlarge combat log range > syncing :)
23:28.03ulicyea syncing just seems like extra overhead
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23:28.55Xinhuani made a post on UI forums asking for details on that "decreased load times"
23:28.56array{Endeavour}well, i don't like real-time syncing, but i think it's a good idea to sync after combat
23:28.58Xinhuanbut slouken didn't reply :(
23:29.40NeoTronI never quite understood how syncing can avoid bad data
23:29.59array{Endeavour}that's not the point
23:30.05ulicNeoTron: it just confirms the bad data across multiple users :)
23:30.06array{Endeavour}think of this
23:30.11NeoTronno what I mean is
23:30.21bleeterXinhuan: heh, I've already posted in the Tech forum about that ;)
23:30.25NeoTronhow can syncing guarantee that you don't make the data that was correct incorrect
23:30.26array{Endeavour}person a is in an instance, person b in the raid is outside
23:30.29Xinhuandid you get a reply?
23:30.36array{Endeavour}person b won't get the combatlog
23:30.38NeoTronarray{Endeavour}: that is to me an entirely uninteresting situation
23:30.47PrimerNeoTron: I constantly get into arguments with people over that
23:30.48bleeterXinhuan: nah, was only 30 mins ago ;)
23:30.56NeoTronthe person outside can check WWS if they want to
23:31.00Primerwhen they claim their DamageMeter > Recount
23:31.01Xinhuaniriel replied my post though
23:31.08Xinhuanhe said he thinks its UI unrelated
23:31.12NeoTronand I sure as heck don't want outside data in my inside data omen/damage meters
23:31.34Xinhuanbut i replied by saying "you don't know, remember when 2 years ago, UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED events fired 200 times when zoning?"
23:31.38Perniciuswhat is WWS?
23:31.38NeoTronhow does a synced damage meter uniquely identify a specific event?
23:31.39Xinhuanhehe
23:31.50Xinhuanand he conceded hehe
23:31.52bleeterXinhuan: which forum?
23:31.56XinhuanUi forums
23:32.10NeoTronPernicius: wow web stats
23:32.14Perniciusah
23:32.28Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064417096&postId=39996065365&sid=1#1
23:32.30Xinhuanthat thread
23:32.43Xinhuani made that original post
23:32.45array{Endeavour}nono, for example in our raid there are 30 people, 25 inside he instance, 5 outside to help out. the 5 people outside want to know who made most damage --> need sync as outside of instance there's no combatlog for the instance
23:33.02PrimerNeoTron: I guess that's the rub
23:33.39bleeterXinhuan: ah, thanks :)
23:33.54Xinhuanso we don't really know much, not even iriel
23:34.45nevcairielits probalby just some tweaks to the way the 3d entities are being loaded
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23:41.08dJe781`AwHum did anyone notice any malfunction with the DifficultyColor modifier provided by DogTag ?
23:41.24dJe781It seems like it doesn't work anymore
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23:43.04CIA-4803swimnurd * r59349 10AVqq/AVqq.lua:
23:43.04CIA-48AVqq:
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23:48.55Estilavqq, sounds like a mod alliance would use
23:49.40genetikwhy's that?
23:50.04NivFreakheh
23:51.25Estilwith exception to certain BGs
23:51.29Estilrest of them have alliance QQing about AV
23:51.33Estiland 'boycotting' it
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23:57.02Gnarfozwtf :|
23:57.38GnarfozI hate these fake pixels
23:58.43Gnarfozwhy does it have to be so hard to align stuff
23:59.32Gnarfozat 1680x1050, neither 840 nor 512 is half of the screens width
23:59.49Diao512?
23:59.57Diao525?
23:59.59thulhmm

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