IRC log for #wowace on 20080121

00:00.57robotusch& then there's those of us who cba to set up a UI & just go with thatever we can find: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/Wow/zomglolwutbqq.jpg ;)
00:00.57KazieAnyone here who can help me with some addon stuff? (code stuff)
00:01.52Mezir|SemiAFKis there a way to set the chatfont smaller than 12?
00:01.53Mezir|SemiAFKo.o
00:01.58Mezir|SemiAFKif its prat, where?
00:01.59robotuschPrat can do it
00:02.05robotuschFont > Textsize
00:02.11Mezir|SemiAFKlol :> k
00:02.17Mezir|SemiAFKcould have guessed that xD
00:02.23Kaziehaha.. it's not everyday that you find larger raid frames than party frames :D hah
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00:05.36KazieAnyone who have tried MSBT?
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00:06.54Beherithi there.... what ya think: Logitech G5 or G9 ... cant decide :/
00:08.29kebinusanhm, anyone running wow through wine, does it like to gobble cpu for you as well?
00:08.30KazieG15
00:08.38Kazieif G series at all
00:08.44Beheriti wanna mouse not a keyboard
00:08.51kebinusanit keeps one core of my cpu pretty much pegged when running
00:08.52KazieG15 comes with a mouse too ;)
00:08.58[dRaCo]nope, it doesnt
00:09.03Beheritnope^
00:09.05AeyanG5 is corded, G9 is wireless correct?
00:09.06Pkekyo|MOOOOOOOOOOOOO
00:09.10KazieBut for mouse i prefer MS intelli 3.0 or razor copperhead :)
00:09.13Beheritnope both wired
00:11.00gixmeh. seems like implementing loopback stuff isn't that easy either. at least not in AceComm:CHAT_MSG_ADDON.
00:11.58Mezir|SemiAFKcan i make the chatoutline a lil sharper? its round (^^ lol you dont even see it)
00:12.39Beherithttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/3053&cl=us,en
00:12.40Beherithttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/359&cl=us,en
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00:13.34KazieWow that G9 is the gay'est mouse i have ever seen :S .. No offense to gay ppl ... but oh my god that is ugly :s
00:13.57Beherithrhr but its really n1 in hand
00:14.12KazieCan't imagin that rly..
00:14.15Kazienot that one... :o
00:14.32Beheritmany ppl like many dont its like every other mouse, it needs to fit
00:16.03Mezir|SemiAFKluv my old scratched mx510 :D
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00:16.39Kazie^^
00:16.56KazieAre there anyone present here who might be able to help with an addon code thingy?
00:17.42CIA-4803alar * r59017 10AlarTTFrame/ (6 files):
00:17.42CIA-48AlarTTFrame
00:17.43CIA-484.0.5a
00:17.43CIA-48Fixed: Sometimes, wrong AlarLib version was loaded
00:17.43CIA-48Fixed: Forgot localization files... it works even without them but..
00:18.34CIA-4803parnic * r59018 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua:
00:18.34CIA-48IceHUD:
00:18.34CIA-48- committing a really old user-submitted fix (from the forums) for being able to set the minimum buffs/debuffs to 0 in the targetinfo
00:23.43KazieAnyone here who can help me with some addon code?
00:26.05Mezir|SemiAFKcan i make some fubar invisible and colour others?
00:26.15Mezir|SemiAFKo.o i dont want all to appear/dissapear
00:27.26Kaziemake 'em all transparent and use eePanels
00:27.39Mezir|SemiAFK<_< durr
00:30.52Mezir|SemiAFKwhats the difference btw eepanels and eepanels2 o.o
00:30.53Mezir|SemiAFKlol
00:30.59Mezir|SemiAFKis 2 enhanced or what?
00:31.03Chompersits an update
00:31.11Chompersscriptings possible in ee2
00:31.11Mezir|SemiAFKso i should use 2?
00:31.15Kazieuse eePanels2
00:31.18Chompersyes, thats the supported one
00:31.18Mezir|SemiAFKkk
00:31.30Kazie<3 eePanels with scripts .p
00:31.31Kazie:P
00:31.36Chompershttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels2
00:31.41KazieChompers: Do you know about writing addons and stuff?
00:31.58Chompersnone at all
00:32.03KazieBollocks ^^
00:33.43Mezir|SemiAFKanybody knowing a good way to get the parent frames?
00:33.51Mezir|SemiAFKi used to use visor
00:33.52Mezir|SemiAFKo.o
00:33.58Mezir|SemiAFKsimplier way?
00:34.01Kaziegot a macro somewhere
00:34.15Mezir|SemiAFKgimmeh :D
00:35.09Mezir|SemiAFKgot it
00:35.11Mezir|SemiAFK./print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
00:36.09KazieYou're faster i see
00:36.14Kaziewhere'd you find it? :P
00:36.29Pkekyo|scroll up :)
00:36.48Mezir|SemiAFK^^ googles my best friend
00:36.59Mezir|SemiAFKolol eepanels doesnt match the chat frame -.-
00:37.00KazieExactly.. but i was looking in my logfile because i rebooted ^^
00:37.30Mezir|SemiAFK^^ it hard for me to speak in english the whole time <_< and its already late
00:37.32Mezir|SemiAFKxD
00:38.57Mezir|SemiAFKand the eepanel is moveable -.-
00:39.00Mezir|SemiAFKwtf
00:39.20Mezir|SemiAFKoh you can lock it
00:39.21Mezir|SemiAFKxD
00:40.55KivinI sort of like !Swatter for debugging, however it annoys the hell out of me that it "remembers" errors that I've already resolved.  Makes it difficult to see what is still broken.  Is there a way to clear it?
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00:41.11Mezir|SemiAFKdude <3 eepanels
00:41.14Mezir|SemiAFKyou guys are great
00:41.45KazieYea .. eePanels is the shit )
00:41.46Kazie:)
00:42.46Pkekyo|fucksake
00:42.54Pkekyo|someone write me my bloody article
00:43.28Kazieand someone help me with this code :S
00:44.08Kivin!ap 550
00:44.27SunTsuSomebody convince my X.org to have my mouse use every button, and not just the half of it
00:44.32Kivin~ap 550
00:45.33Pkekyo|!ar 550
00:45.40Pkekyo|rating 550
00:45.44Pkekyo|points 550
00:45.48Pkekyo|did all the bots die?
00:48.33Pkekyo|yes
00:48.36Daemonawhat was the char search keyword again?
00:48.46Pkekyo|!c eu bloodfeather baesj
00:48.50Daemonaarmory search is broken again :(
00:49.03Daemona!c eu arvyn Kil'Jaeden
00:49.37CIA-4803shamino * r59019 10EnchantingSell/:
00:49.37CIA-48EnchantingSell:
00:49.37CIA-48- updated Waterfall external entry
00:49.49Daemonahmpf
00:49.50Pkekyo|well, thraebot just DCed, so you're not getting any :p
00:50.11Daemonasucktard
00:50.29Pkekyo|yes, yes you are
00:52.35Pkekyo|where the flying fuck did everyone go?
00:52.35Pkekyo|would imagine this chan would be alive at US daytime...
00:53.07Daemonaits sunday raid main time
00:53.17Pkekyo|oh
00:53.18Daemona6pm or what is it over there
00:53.27Pkekyo|right
00:54.42Pkekyo|doesn't the bloody yanks ever sleep? O.o
00:55.14Pkekyo|fuck me sideways
00:55.14Pkekyo|need to write this article now
00:55.18Raydenhey there
00:55.30Pkekyo|ohhai Rayden
00:55.33Raydenit's 8pm east coast us
00:55.45Kazie1:55 am Denmark ^^
00:55.52Raydenso either everyone else found a real life, like they have hot dates
00:55.53Raydenor...
00:55.55Raydendunno
00:56.00Raydenmaybe everyone died
00:56.05Raydenit's more likely than my other idea
00:56.07Pkekyo|most likely :p
01:04.34Pkekyo|meh, I hate going 40+hrs without sleeping
01:05.11Gngski love it
01:05.18Gngsknatural high
01:05.55Pkekyo|I have to write a twopage article and a 10page report during the latter 15 of the 40rhs
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01:09.43Mezir|SemiAFKantiarc can you pls post again the pic of you ui?
01:10.00Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-bt.jpg
01:10.06Mezir|SemiAFKthx
01:11.47Pkekyo|holy shit, a person that managed to use ONE, and only ONE bar texture
01:13.20AntiarcSurfaceControl ftw?
01:14.00Pkekyo|I think that's the only UI besides my own in which I've seen anything like that :p
01:19.04CIA-4803celellach * r59020 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (BattlegroundPvP.en.lua sets.en.lua):
01:19.04CIA-48AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
01:19.04CIA-48- Renumbered AB sets
01:19.04CIA-48- Updated Rare Mounts page
01:19.37WobinAntiarc: hehe I read that as "post again the pic of u"
01:19.47pastamancerthat's a crazy tooltip you have going on there Antiarc
01:20.42CIA-4803celellach * r59021 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua):
01:20.42CIA-48AtlasLoot:
01:20.42CIA-48- Renumbered AB sets and some minor updates
01:20.44WobinYou have a pally named Flaathun? I could swear that's a voidwalker name =P
01:20.52Wobinor a felhunter
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01:23.38Mezir|SemiAFKcan you open up testbars in assessment like in omen?
01:23.43Mezir|SemiAFKwould be a great help...
01:25.55Mezir|SemiAFKand can you turn off the screen clamp in omen <_<
01:26.11chiperany yata users around?
01:26.27[dRaCo]yeah
01:26.42chiperI cant seem to figure out how to define a totemset
01:26.50chiperis there some modifier or something?
01:27.21[dRaCo]no, just click "add totemset" and drag the totems where you want them
01:28.22chiperahh, ok, you drag it
01:28.54[dRaCo]drag to red to hide, drag to green to unhide
01:29.22[dRaCo]you can only hide the totem on top, though
01:31.28CIA-4803arrowmaster * r59022 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal: Azgalor wave 4 corrected to 6 Fel Stalkers and 8 Infernals
01:31.45ZhinjioAntiarc, what are you using for your raid frames? perfectRaid? Grid?
01:32.21Antiarcparty frames are pitbull, grid is the raid view in the lower right
01:33.04Zhinjioparty frames along the top? (I looked at this over an hour ago and don't have it in front of me right now)
01:35.25Zhinjioat some point here, I need to take my machine and replace the dvdrom. I have a couple new games I want to play and I can't until I do that.
01:35.32ZhinjioI'm being extraordinarily lazy lately, tho
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01:37.36AntiarcPkekyo|: Because I like pretty pictures.
01:37.45AntiarcFor a long time I hid party frames in raids
01:38.03Zhinjioif I could find some way for "floating" frames to still feel anchored to me... I'd probably find a more minimalist approach that I liked
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01:39.06ZhinjioI remember seeing a UI a long time ago on the discord site that had ... sort of chaotic threaded borders around frames that were pretty damn cool looking.
01:39.34ZhinjioI couldn't ever figure out how to get the masking on the graphics to look right, though
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01:42.16ZhinjioI couldn't get alpha masking to behave on a gradient, to be more specific.
01:42.29Zhinjioso deeper transparency in some places than others
01:42.35Zhinjioeven though its certainly possible in the UI to do so.
01:43.47ZhinjioPkekyo: as I recall, you're graphically adept.... have you tried doing that in the UI?
01:44.44Pkekyo|Zhinjio: what?
01:45.06Zhinjioget a graphical element in the UI to correctly interpret a gradient of transparency
01:45.10Pkekyo|sorry, I'm not paying attention :p
01:45.32Pkekyo|I haven't tried tbh
01:45.50Gnarfozwhat's a good addon to find out which recipes of a given profession I am still lacking?
01:45.59Pkekyo|but a couple of lines in an xml file should do it though, if it's at all possible :)
01:46.04gixhmpf. seems like cross-addon communication is not possible with acecomm
01:46.19ZhinjioAckisRecipeList
01:46.32ZhinjioGnarfoz ^^
01:46.41Gnarfozthx
01:46.47gixany ideas?
01:47.07Zhinjiohave one addon use the other addon's comm prefix
01:47.17Zhinjiooh wait, I'm using LibRock. nm.
01:48.42gixwell that doesn't work. the prefix is addonbound, and you cannot specify it when sending.
01:48.52Zhinjioone moment.
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01:49.48Mezir|SemiAFKgn8
01:49.49Zhinjioeach OnCommReceive listener can specify its own prefix though
01:49.54Mezir|SemiAFKand thx for the help
01:50.15Zhinjioeven if what you send is always going to default to the MyAddon.commPrefix
01:50.25Zhinjiono?
01:50.57Zhinjiothat would at least allow you to listen to another addon's gorp
01:51.02Pkekyo|hmm
01:54.23gixZhinjio: it fails in AceComm:CHAT_MSG_ADDON at the check for self.prefixHashToText[prefix] because the prefix there is from another addon which of course isn't registered on another player without that addon
01:59.56Parnicdoes anyone know how i'd print a literal [ or ] in a string that's run through DogTag?
02:05.21gixZhinjio: hm maybe i should convert to rock. after a quick glance through rockcomm it should work
02:06.48Pkekyo|meh!
02:06.54Parnicok, literal ] seems to work fine in dogtag, but literal [ is not so easy...
02:07.04Parnici've tried [[], text([), [[, \[, etc....
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02:08.20Arrowmastergix: create a new object to embed an additional acecomm into
02:12.35gixArrowmaster: how would i do that?
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02:13.23Arrowmasterlocal newobj = {}; AceLibrary("AceComm-2.0"):embed(newobj)
02:14.31gixArrowmaster: well that still doesn't allow me to use prefixes in use
02:15.16gixZhinjio: and it seems i was wrong. librockcomm does it the same way
02:18.07CIA-4803arrowmaster * r59023 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal: Azgalor wave 3 corrected to 6 Ghouls and 8 Infernals
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02:18.47RaydenUnihey
02:18.51RaydenUnimoroes and opera are required... requried for what?
02:18.58Arrowmasteryes
02:18.59RaydenUniwhat happens if you try to kill curator before you down moroes and opera?
02:19.08Arrowmasteryou cant
02:19.25RaydenUniif you don't kill moroes opera won't start, and if you don't down opera curator...?
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02:19.45Arrowmasteryou cant get to curator without doing opera
02:19.59RaydenUniwhy not?
02:20.04Arrowmasterbecause you cant
02:20.07Arrowmastertheres no way to
02:20.14RaydenUnibackdoor?
02:20.15Gngskclosed door
02:20.17Arrowmasterlocked
02:20.19RaydenUnioh ok
02:22.27gixbasically i have a master and a client addon they i want them both to communicate with each other. but i cannot use the same prefix with both, and they don't receive messages from each other if the other addon is missing as the prefix is not registered. the only hackish way i see is to check for the other addon and create a stub with that prefix registered.
02:22.33RaydenUnithat sucks
02:22.45RaydenUnii don't want to kill moroes or opera
02:23.00RaydenUnii guess curator drops t4 stuff so they can't let you just kill him
02:23.48MentalPowergix: bypass Ace
02:23.57MentalPoweruse the comms API yourself
02:24.35MentalPowerits not that hard, especially for small command-like messages
02:24.39MentalPoweractually its not hard at all
02:24.44RaydenUniwho is easier, illhoof or netherspite?
02:25.17Temdepends on your group makeup
02:25.25Temif you have a competant lock, illhoof
02:25.31Temif not, netherspite
02:25.42RaydenUniwe have a lock
02:25.57Temalso, illhook drops the sexyest tinket ever
02:25.58MentalPowerkeyword here is competent
02:26.08Tems/hook/hoof/
02:26.11RaydenUniwhy lock specifically?
02:26.23Temseed of corruption is the most overpowered peice of shit ever?
02:26.42Tem"Mages are the AoE kings"
02:26.45RaydenUnithe electrical shard one?
02:26.55RaydenUniif we have a lock and a mage, how well does that work?
02:27.02Tem"Oh hey, let's give locks an aoe that's WAY BETTER than anything mages have"
02:27.15TemDon't put the mage on aoe
02:27.17Temhe will die
02:27.22Temor go oom in 30 seconds
02:27.31RaydenUnioh heh
02:27.37RaydenUniSoC for the OP
02:27.45Tem</rant)
02:27.57Tems/)/>/
02:28.00gixMentalPower: i know it's not hard. but it's easy as i can just dump tables through it without rolling my own serialization.
02:28.15RaydenUniwe have a paly tank, which sounds pretty useful for this fight
02:28.28RaydenUnihow much life do the imps have?
02:28.29MentalPowergix: so the master addon sends more than just simple commands?
02:28.30RaydenUnidoes SoC kill them?
02:28.45exor674eventually
02:29.09gixMentalPower: yes. it sends a nested table with numbers
02:29.34gixand the children send a nested table back. and then they just get an ack from the master.
02:29.49RaydenUniillhoof sounds complicated
02:30.11Temit's a really easy fight after you do it a few times
02:30.31RaydenUniwell we've only tried shade one night before we ran out of time
02:30.34RaydenUnigrr
02:30.41MentalPowergix: you send a *nested* table?
02:30.42RaydenUniso i'm not sure that if we kill shade we'll have time for a 2nd
02:30.42TemI _hate_ that fight
02:30.43RaydenUni:(
02:30.53Temgix, sounds like bad design tome
02:30.54Temto me*
02:31.39Temif what you have to send across the comm is so complex that you can't do it without using a library,you probably shouldn't be sending it over comm
02:31.52Reclusehate when server is full >.>
02:31.53Tembut that's just my opinion
02:32.31gixsending something like {{12345,100},{2376},{4842,123,{{1231,123},{9834}}} is bad design?
02:33.19Pkekyo|RaydenUniwe have a paly tank, which sounds pretty useful for this fight <--- what fight?
02:33.28TemIllhoof
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02:33.47MentalPowergix: what do those numbers mean?
02:33.57NightHawkTheSanepally tanks with the tanking book in kara are hax on illhoof.
02:34.40Pkekyo|If you've got both a warr/druid and a pala, have the pala offtank just the adds...keep your disgruntled warriors and druids entertained :p
02:34.43MentalPowerwhere I'm going with that question is that you can serialize it yourself
02:34.58NightHawkTheSanePkekyo|: feh, screw that, have the pally tank everything, and dps goes to town on whatever :)
02:35.01gixif course i can. that wasn't the question
02:35.14gixMentalPower: and the numbers are mostly itemids
02:35.16MentalPowergix: basically your two options are either a) use the base API or b) not do the master/slave thing
02:35.23TemI think where MP and I are going, gix, is that AceComm is evil and you should avoid it
02:35.30Temif at all possible
02:35.31MentalPowerthat too
02:35.43Pkekyo|NightHawkTheSane: sod pallies
02:35.46gixand replace with what?
02:35.53RaydenUniwe've been running KZ with 2 healers
02:35.53Temdo it yourself
02:36.01RaydenUnishould we switch to 3 for some of the boss fights?
02:36.03MentalPowerwith SendAddonMessage()
02:36.32Pkekyo|RaydenUni: well, actually yes! apparently so, according to the information!
02:36.40RaydenUniwe've done fine up until shade
02:36.45Pkekyo|just get some boomkin with healinggear
02:36.46RaydenUnialthough i don't think healing was our problem with shade
02:36.49gixwell, that sucks though.
02:36.56RaydenUnifor healing we have a priest, a shaman, and a resto druid
02:37.00Pkekyo|everything up onto shade isa  bloody joke RaydenUni :)
02:37.04RaydenUnithe shaman and the priest ahve dps alts
02:37.15MentalPowergix: the libs were designed with the most common cases in mind, yours is not one of them
02:37.29MentalPowers/designed/created/
02:37.44ReclusePkekyo|: you really don't sleep, do you? :p
02:37.48RaydenUninetherspite sounds very complicated as well
02:37.53RaydenUniin any case i need to take a nap
02:38.40Pkekyo|Recluse: can't, haven't written my article yet :p
02:38.47RecluseXD
02:38.48gixdoes loadstring() still work? i could just send the table plain over the wire then.
02:39.43Pkekyo|haven't even started
02:40.00MentalPowergix: it does
02:41.24Pkekyo|Recluse: fancy writing it for me?
02:41.28gixfine. then i can just use my old serializing stuff for sending lua binary code
02:41.32Recluseforget that :p
02:41.48MentalPowerbut you'd have to prepend it with "return {yourTable}" for it to work
02:41.48ReclusePkekyo|: you'd fail/get fired
02:42.21gixMentalPower: yes, i know.
02:42.32MentalPowerlua> loadstring("return {}")
02:42.32lua_botMentalPower: function: 0x80d29f8,
02:42.32gixand protect it with setfenv when importing
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02:42.37MentalPowerlua> loadstring("return {}")()
02:42.37lua_botMentalPower: {  } (#1),
02:44.30Pkekyo|Recluse: howso?
02:44.40Reclusei'm no good at that stuff
02:44.49Pkekyo|bloody hell....four hours to deadline
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02:46.00gixsomething like setfenv(loadstring("return {1,2,3}"),{})()
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02:48.01MentalPowergix: yup
02:49.58Arrowmastergay gay gay
02:50.37Arrowmasterjust killed azgalor and our OT that was tanking doomguards isnt available to get gloves from masterloot
02:50.53Arrowmasterand he was the first damn person to get doomed
02:53.16Daemonastrange, how far do you split?
02:53.43Arrowmasternot that far
02:53.47Arrowmasterless than 100yards
02:53.56Arrowmasterbut he got doomed first
02:54.06DaemonaONE HUNDRED YARDS?
02:54.18Daemonadude, that Rain of Fire got like ... 40y ?
02:54.25Daemonawhy do you split farther?
02:54.49Arrowmasterwe tank the doomguards next to thrall
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02:55.07Daemonayes.. and?
02:55.31Daemonawhats the matter ... thrall - 20y - offtank - 40y - azgalor
02:55.34DaemonaTT
02:55.54Arrowmasterwe have our possitioning and its fine
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02:57.14Traedamn... "Perfect Raid" Addon looks nice but has tons of errors
02:57.33Arrowmasterwhere did you get it from?
02:57.40Traesec
02:57.47Traewell it wasn't in the wowace updater :(
02:58.00Arrowmasterget it from wowi?
02:58.01Daemona!c eu arvyn Kil'Jaeden
02:58.05ThraeBotDaemona: Kil'Jaeden is not the character you are looking for!
02:58.10Traehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4673
02:58.15Daemona!c eu arvyn
02:58.20Arrowmastershouldnt have errors
02:58.42Daemona!c eu kil'jaeden arvyn
02:58.42Traehmm
02:58.45ThraeBotDaemona: arvyn is not the character you are looking for!
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02:59.59Daemona!c eu Destromath Daemona
03:00.15ThraeBotDaemona: Daemona is not the character you are looking for!
03:00.37Daemona<3 armory
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03:00.43Daemonaspecially when its borken
03:01.57TemDaemona, my armory page is so fucked up right now
03:02.11Temit currently shows me not having a 2v2 or 3v3 and It shows a 5v5
03:02.20TemI do have 2s and 3s teams, but no 5v5
03:02.40Temthe 5v5 it lists me for is the one I used to be one, but the rating that team is supposedly at is completely wrong
03:02.59CIA-4803parnic * r59024 10IceHUD/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
03:02.59CIA-48IceHUD:
03:02.59CIA-48- converted upper/lower text on most bars to use LibDogTag formatting for greater user control
03:02.59CIA-48- added Deformat library references in embeds.xml
03:03.20Temif you click my 2s and 3s buttons, it takes you to a team page even though "I don't have a team in that bracket"
03:03.32TemHowever, the 3s button takes you to the wrong team
03:03.33Daemonaits 4am in the morning, how can the eu armory fuck up now?
03:03.46Temand the 2s button takes you to the right team, but doesn't show me on it
03:04.20Daemonadoesnt matter... n8
03:04.20Kivinthe team that hand draws each armory page is asleep for the night :P
03:04.44TraeInterface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:777:attempt to compare number with nil
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03:15.19Pkekyo|journbah, journalism sucks frozen donkeyballs
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03:16.43Pkekyo|journalso: stop being so bloody pregnant!
03:17.01TraeArrowmaster, any idea about this error msg?  Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:777:attempt to compare number with nil
03:17.07Arrowmasterno
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03:18.03Traekk
03:18.06Traenp
03:18.16Traeit's a nice looking utility that's for sure
03:19.16Pkekyo|journwhat is?
03:20.57TraePerfect Raid
03:21.23Pkekyo|journI prefer pitbull with a praid setup tbh :)
03:22.22Pkekyo|journouh
03:22.24Pkekyo|journwould LOVE to see someone solve rubiks cube with their elbows :)
03:25.25MentalPowerrandom!
03:26.19Pkekyo|journyes. yes, you are.
03:29.53Estil9 levels to go on my druid
03:29.55Estil:(
03:29.58Estilwish it was faster!
03:30.19Keiasthats what you get for being a druid
03:30.27Estilit is faster than my warrior
03:30.27Reclusei got 8 levels left on my second druid
03:30.27Estil.
03:30.57Estilsecond druid?
03:30.58Estilwow :(
03:31.05KeiasI had a druid once
03:31.08Keiasit was horrible :(
03:31.15Estilit's not bad now
03:31.20Estildruid is pretty damn powerful now
03:32.20Recluseyeah, 70 night elf one and now 62 cow
03:32.54EstilI am making him for sole purpose of being pvp druid
03:33.25EstilI have a warrior for tanking :D
03:34.19Reclusemy very first character was a warrior. got to level 47 and can't kill anything solo anymore. i was so OP 1-40, and then it all went downhill. gave up and rerolled rogue
03:34.22EstilI have a priest, but I'd like to heal in pvp without having to tank all these angry warriors and rogues trying to assrape me
03:34.36Estiland hunters
03:34.37Recluseso my warrior is 47 now for over two years >.>
03:34.42Estil:(
03:34.48Estilyea warrior leveling is pain
03:34.54Estilthen when you try out classes like warlock or hunter
03:35.09Estilyou wonder to yourself, "self, now why did I roll warrior? perhaps I like to poke sticks into my eye"
03:35.21Recluselol
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03:35.55Estilon the other hand, getting a warrior to max level means you can easily find a guild, and then call the shots in raid, and usually get loots first
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03:36.38Arrowmasterno it doesnt
03:36.44RecluseXD
03:36.51Antiarchttp://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080116/080115-7Eleven2-hmed-10a.hmedium.jpg
03:36.51AntiarcUHHHH.
03:37.01Arrowmasterwarriors are one of the most played classes
03:37.06Arrowmasterand most of them suck
03:37.22GngskAntiarc, epic
03:37.31Antiarchttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22684708/ is the article
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03:44.59Traedamn pitbull is a resource hog
03:46.50Pkekyo|journsweeeeet
03:47.03Pkekyo|journI slept for 10min and now I'm wide awake again
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03:50.47RecluseD=
03:51.04Pkekyo|journthree hours until deadline
03:51.13Pkekyo|journI need to start writing >.<
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04:06.32Lukianhmm, how do I get the compact list view in Auctioneer?
04:12.29Neeblerdid i ever tell you about the time i rented an office and set myself up as a gynecologist?
04:12.36Neebleroops wrong channel
04:12.56MentalPowerLukian: enable CompactUI in the options and reload
04:13.12MentalPoweralso theres a #Norganna in this server for support on our addon
04:13.19Lukianah cool
04:13.23MentalPowers/addon/addons/
04:13.30Lukianwhere is the CompactUI option?
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05:07.24AntiarcUhhh.
05:07.28AntiarcSomeone help me out here guys.
05:07.51Recluse?
05:08.09Antiarcsec, pasteying
05:09.00Antiarchttp://pastebin.com/d24f4f44e <-- I just got that in my email
05:09.08AntiarcNow, I didn't put a copy of my tools up at his site
05:09.19AntiarcAnd he somehow thinks I've hijacked his subdomain or something
05:09.22AntiarcWhich is...not possible.
05:09.32AntiarcHow do I go about explaining to this toolbox that I'm not responsible for it?
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05:11.25chiperdid anybody ever take credit for that internet collapse yesterday?
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05:12.33chiperor, take the blame I should say
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05:14.06davedis there a way to make a custom sorter in lua? say i have   foo = { { ["alpha"] = 5, ["bravo"] = 2 } , { ["alpha"] = 3, ["bravo"] = 1 } }  and i want to get the list of tables inside the main table ordered by their value of "alpha"
05:17.44Arrowmastertable.sort(), but the table has to be numerically indexed
05:17.57Keiasis there any sites online to import japanese console games aside from playasia?
05:18.07MentalPowertable.sort(tbl, function(a,b) return a.alpha <b.alpha end)
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05:19.47MentalPowerlua> foo = { { ["alpha"] = 5, ["bravo"] = 2 } , { ["alpha"] = 3, ["bravo"] = 1 } } table.sort(foo, function(a,b) return a.alpha <b.alpha end) print(foo)
05:19.48lua_botMentalPower: { { ["alpha"] = 3, ["bravo"] = 1 } (#2), { ["alpha"] = 5, ["bravo"] = 2 } (#3) } (#1)
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05:20.00MentalPowerdaved: ^^^^
05:27.41Fisker-i don't get it Antiarc :(
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05:34.20CIA-4803sayclub * r59025 10GridStatusHealer/Locale-koKR.lua:
05:34.20CIA-48GridStatusHealer:
05:34.20CIA-48- koKR Update
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05:52.47CIA-4803parnic * r59026 10IceHUD/IceBarElement.lua:
05:52.47CIA-48IceHUD:
05:52.47CIA-48- added horizontal and vertical text offset sliders to each bar
06:02.12CIA-4803parnic * r59027 10IceHUD/modules/ (4 files):
06:02.12CIA-48IceHUD:
06:02.12CIA-48- blind commit to change the default colors for health/power for the player and target to be based on health/power amounts since the bars scale color by default
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06:14.50chiperwell that's no good.  msbt doesnt tell me when a target is immune
06:17.32Kivinchiper: you must be suppressing something; i get immune messages all the time
06:17.52Kivinif I'm opening up on a paladin that bubbles, my screen literally floors with "immune!"
06:18.31Kivins/rs/ds
06:18.33chiperdoing arcane protectors in kara.  only clue I wasnt hitting was that no damage was scrolling
06:18.45Kivinvery weird
06:19.16KivinOh, it wasn't telling you they're immune because they aren't.  You were doing damage in the form of mana
06:19.39KivinIf those are the things with perpetual mana shields
06:19.44chiperreally, because when I switched to fire spells I started seeing it
06:20.01chiperit's the larger of the trios leading up to shade
06:20.04Arrowmasterthe ones with the mana sheilds absorb everything
06:20.10ThraeKivin: That reminds me -- I wanted to make an addon which "groups" similiar errors and messages in the various frames -- such as instead of "You can't do that yet" 3000 times, it would be "You can't do that yet (3000)"
06:20.39KivinThrae: Hook UIErrorsFrame methods... I think
06:20.47NightHawkTheSanehmm.. are the buffs from the kael weapons party-wide or raid-wide?
06:20.54ThraeOh I know how to do it -- currently I supress them using my own addon
06:20.55Arrowmasterraid
06:21.09dre^NightHawkTheSane: afaik they are target based... at least the healy mace one is
06:21.16Arrowmasterstaff is raid
06:21.19NightHawkTheSanedre^: some have use effects that are buffs :P
06:21.28NightHawkTheSanestaff is mostly what i meant, thanks
06:22.22dre^also: woot, first Azgalor kill tonight!
06:22.50Arrowmasterwe had 2 retarded wipes on azgalor tonight
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06:22.55KivinYaar, I want my honor to roll over so I can get my s1 chestpeice and leggings
06:23.09Arrowmasterbecause we got a bunch of npcs killed by accident from changing part of a strat
06:24.48KivinSo last night, I sub in for healer in a friend's kara during all that internet mess
06:24.53KivinI run up and join them at prince
06:24.56KivinWe do one run that ends in a wipe
06:25.06KivinThen the healer comes back online, and it's impossed on me to leave
06:25.29KivinSo I'm stuck with a raidID for literally ten minutes of raiding =/ not to mention the fifteen gold repair bill
06:27.31Arrowmaster15g in 10 minutes wtf?
06:27.49Kivinone wipe
06:28.06dre^you must be a paladin :)
06:28.10Kivinshaman
06:28.19dre^then you must have rediculous gear
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06:28.40dre^are you sure you were at 100% going in? heh
06:28.46Kivinnothing terribly amazing. ~1300 heals with crappy enchantments
06:28.57dre^then it wasn't 15g for one wipe
06:28.59Kivincouldn't have been less than 95%+.  I only ran two ABs since my repair
06:29.22dre^still sucks though :/
06:29.49KivinThe money besides, it was the principle of the whole thing that ate at me
06:29.54dre^yeah no doubt
06:30.04dre^now you know what questions to ask next time
06:30.40Kivinwell none of us knew, including the raid members, that their stock healer would pop back on.  In fact, during the prince encounter, she said on vent that she was going to the store, then bed, since she couldn't log in.
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06:32.21KivinErm, I just logged in to a 5800 ms ping
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06:41.02deadhi
06:42.08deadis there an addon in here i can hide my shapeshift bar?
06:42.10deadi am a rogue..
06:42.28deadoh i forgot
06:42.29deadplease
06:46.58Pkekyo|dead: just about any bar addon there is will let you do it
06:48.21deadBartender?
06:48.40deadDont know how the bold got in there
06:48.42dead./
06:48.43deadoops
06:48.56Pkekyo|yes, bartender will let you hide your stancebar
06:49.08Pkekyo|- shapeshiftbar, whateverthefuck....
06:49.23deadok thanks
06:49.26dead<3
06:49.29Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
06:50.07KivinNote the bar is still available, any key bindings still apply to it, it just isn't visible on the screen
06:51.39RaydenUninooo
06:51.53RaydenUniwoke up 45 minutes too late and we don't ahve enough for kara
06:52.07Pkekyo|I woke up 8 hrs too late
06:52.39Pkekyo|I'm off, laters all
06:52.45deadsee you
06:52.46deadthanks
06:54.25deadhow do you download on this wowinterface.com
06:54.33deadkeeps bringing me back to the main page
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06:55.24RaydenUniyou have cookies or javascript turned off?
06:55.56deadnope
06:56.48deadi click download, both of the buttons, and it takes me here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6342/download6342-Bartender3
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07:01.21deadwth..
07:01.23deadlol
07:04.02deadI had to go here and dl it: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=35951
07:04.09deadShould fix that loop :(
07:04.58deadthanks
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07:05.53dead..and its out of date
07:05.57deadoh brother
07:07.11Arrowmasterwhat are you looking for?
07:07.40deadBartender3
07:07.59Arrowmasterhttp://files.wowace.com/Bartender3/Bartender3.zip
07:08.11*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
07:08.39deadthank you
07:08.43Ellipsismmm, sand
07:08.48CIA-4803nevcairiel * r59028 10Bartender3/ (Bar.lua SpecialBar.lua): Bartender3: apply a patch to the reputation bar by JCinDE
07:09.37Arrowmasterwait 10 minutes and that file i linked will be different
07:09.51deadwhat do you mean
07:10.07nevcairieli should probably push to wowi again
07:10.23Arrowmasterlol all the addons i reported on curse lastnight are deleted it seems
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07:18.23vhaarrwhere the hell are our forum admins?
07:18.50ThraeIt's 2am EST -- they're either working or sleeping.
07:19.11vhaarrbullshit, it's 08:19
07:19.34ThraeUsually people work on a Monday at 8am
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07:23.34RaydenUniwhy can't you jump with levitate?
07:23.47Ellipsisbecause you're already levitating
07:23.49Ellipsiswhat more do you want?
07:24.01RaydenUnito jump out of the water
07:24.26nevcairieldoesnt levitate put you above the water?
07:24.30RaydenUnino
07:24.38vhaarrno it doesn't, it's very annoying
07:24.48nevcairielthen, you're screwed
07:24.59RaydenUniyou used to be able to jump i htink
07:25.01vhaarrso you basically have to cancel the buff, jump up a notch and then reapply it
07:38.21RaydenUnii hate how fort buff doesn't override properly
07:38.42RaydenUniyou are casting prayer of fort with a duration of 1 hour? yeah that doesn't override the 8 minutes you have left on PWF
07:38.46Daemonaif you were a shaman you would know what hating earth shield is ;)
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07:46.22thulANCE
07:46.22thulDANCE
07:46.22thulDANCE UP ON THE TABLE
07:46.22thulweee
07:48.22Brunersanyone that could tell me how to set up a new trigger in Parrot for when Feign death is resisted?
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07:50.58deadthis is too advanced for me
07:51.06deadi just want the stancebar to 'hide'
07:51.09deadnot move my buttons
07:51.32CrysliHm?
07:51.50deadBartender3 mod, very confusing
07:52.10Arrowmasteryou shouldnt be using Bartender3 if thats all you want to do
07:52.27deadi know
07:52.29deadlol
07:52.37deadthats why i asked what should i use
07:52.59CrysliBartender3 is very simple to use, though.
07:53.15deadbut im a stupid ass
07:53.16dead:]
07:53.28Crysli:)
07:53.28RaydenUniwhat stance?
07:53.32Ellipsisif you want to get rid of the stance bar, go into its settings and disable/hide it?
07:53.40deadmy stealth button
07:53.41deadim a rogue
07:53.50RaydenUniwhy wouldn't you want it to change bars?
07:54.08Arrowmasterall he wants is the stealth button not to be shown
07:54.10Ellipsishe probably already bound stealth or macroed it or something?
07:54.24RaydenUnioh
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07:54.33RaydenUniyeah then turn off the stance bar
07:54.39Arrowmasteryou cant
07:54.43RaydenUniwhat?
07:54.45RaydenUniwhy not
07:54.45silentiumRaydenUni: be glad you aren't a paladin, BoL has been bugged for ages... if you buff a class with greater BoL and it runs down to below 10 minutes, you _still_ can't overbuff with a normal BoL even tho that would last longer (with all other greater blessings it works)
07:54.56Arrowmasterbecause the default ui doesnt have options like that
07:55.04RaydenUnii was talking about bartender
07:55.12thuli like bongos
07:55.19RaydenUniit's too bad you can't page to the stance bar in bartender
07:55.27Ellipsiswtf?
07:55.27RaydenUnii have to copy my druid stances to bar 10 so i can shift page to them
07:55.33Ellipsiswhy would you ever want to do that?
07:56.07RaydenUniso i can just shift click 1-4 to shapeshift?
07:56.22Ellipsis...ew
07:56.24Ellipsisyou're a clicker?
07:56.28deadim going to bed. i have absolutely no idea what you guys are talkign about. night all. :)
07:56.32Crysli-schoolNight.
07:56.33RaydenUnishift-1, shift-2, shift-3, shift-4
07:56.46Crysli-schoolRaydenUni: Use SpellBInder.
07:56.47RaydenUnihow does that involve clicking?
07:56.48Ellipsis^
07:56.48NightHawkTheSanei bind my shapeshift keys to f1-3
07:56.55EllipsisRaydenUni: you said shift click...
07:56.57RaydenUnif keys are for targetting party
07:57.05RaydenUnishift click a button
07:57.06Ellipsisctrl-# then
07:57.11NightHawkTheSanei dont need to target my aprty
07:57.18RaydenUnictrl pages something else i think
07:57.24Ellipsisclicking is what you do with a mouse, keys get pressed or hit
07:57.34Grumor stroked or petted
07:57.53Ellipsislike your mom, Grum?
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07:58.00Grumshes dead you cow !
07:58.05Arrowmasterdead: still here?
07:58.06EllipsisI know :x
07:58.24Grumtsssk
07:58.25deadArrowmaster, yea
07:58.35deadArrowmaster, about to sleep though
07:58.37Arrowmasterdead: try /script ShapeshiftBarFrame:Hide()
07:58.49deadArrowmaster, ok hold on
07:59.35deadArrowmaster, it says something about a nil value
07:59.38deadmaybe an error
07:59.40deadred text?
07:59.41Ellipsis...
07:59.48Arrowmasterits case sensitive
07:59.53deadoh
08:00.21deadit works
08:00.25deadthank you
08:00.35Grumlol
08:00.46Arrowmasterit will be back when you relog though
08:00.54Grum'omg i didnt type it exactly as you just said - YOU BORKEN IT!' ;D
08:00.55thulhow does one work without clicking 1-2-3-4 shift, alt etc? :-P
08:00.55thulhow does one work without clicking 1-2-3-4 shift, alt etc?mental clicking?
08:01.41cladhaire]
08:01.43cladhaire[
08:01.44cladhaire]
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08:02.16cladhairelol
08:02.22cladhaireArrowmaster: why would you ask everyone in the channel, except for me.
08:02.32Arrowmasterwhat?
08:03.19cladhaireerr
08:03.19Arrowmasterwhat did i ask?
08:03.23cladhaireTrae: I meant
08:03.37cladhairehe asked you last night
08:03.40cladhaireabout praid, confused me :P
08:03.58deadArrowmaster, or everytime i stealth :)
08:04.10Arrowmasterit comes back when you stealth?
08:04.12Arrowmasterlol
08:04.22deadyup
08:04.29Arrowmasterok
08:04.35deadi dont know how the addons do it
08:05.27deadThere was a mod called invisibilitymod, back in version 2.0.0 of the w.o.w.
08:05.33deadbut the auther i think past away
08:05.36deadhe hasnt updated since
08:05.59Arrowmastertry /script ShapeshiftBarFrame:Hide(); ShapeshiftBarFrame:UnregisterEvent("UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS")
08:06.03Arrowmastercopy paste exactly
08:06.11thulweird people.
08:06.12Arrowmasteryoull have to do it everytime you login
08:06.42Brunersanyone that could tell me how to set up a new trigger in Parrot for when Feign death is resisted? Or atleast tell me if its possible or not
08:06.44deadyou can't paste in wow but i will type it :)
08:06.51Arrowmasteryeah you can
08:07.07deadoh dear i am so new
08:07.14Arrowmasterlol
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08:07.33thulNO BRUNERS we don't want to
08:08.09deadhow Arrowmaster
08:08.23Arrowmasterctrl-v
08:08.23Brunersthul: why not
08:09.26deadsame result Arrowmaster, and thanks for ctrl-v
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08:09.34Arrowmasterit came back?
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08:10.20deadyes
08:10.23thulBruners: beacause you are jewish
08:10.47Brunersthul: sorry to disapoint you but im not
08:10.55Arrowmastergrr it shouldnt do that
08:11.24thulNO?!
08:11.31exor674too bad there's no :GoTheFuckAwayAndNeverComeBack()
08:11.33thulNO?!
08:11.39Brunersthul: im a non believing christian
08:11.58Arrowmasterexor674: there is but its kinda bad depending on where you use it
08:12.20Arrowmasterframe:Hide(); frame.Show = function() end
08:12.27thulhmm, how am one a non-believing christian? :P
08:13.03Arrowmastershapeshiftbar would be one of the places that it would be bad to do that
08:13.04Brunersthul: when you are born here i norway you are without even knowing it automaticly a member of the christian church
08:14.12Brunersthul: so its more or less forced upon you, and i dont see a point spending energy to unregister me from it
08:14.22deadArrowmaster im going to bed. i will figure it out later tomorrow. goodnight, thank you for trying anyway
08:14.22KivinArrowmaster: wtf is BBZCmdEx's problem with stepping into folders which have spaces in their names?
08:14.36KivinIt absolutely wont execute anything in Program Files
08:14.39CIA-4803jerry * r59029 10Grid/GridStatusRange.lua: Grid: add test for charmed units to GridStatusRange.
08:14.40ArrowmasterKivin: dont ask me i dont use it
08:15.01Brunersthul: as they will still get money from the government untill i register with some other stupid religous thing
08:15.07Ellipsiswin+r ftw?
08:15.31Kivini hit my win key so rarely that i had to feel around for it, here, in the dark
08:15.39Ellipsiswell you're dumb then :P
08:15.42EllipsisI use it for all kinds of things
08:15.48Kivin=.=
08:15.54Ellipsiswin-tab, win-r, win-l, win-d/win-m...
08:16.24Arrowmasterwtf does win-tab do
08:16.33Brunersswitch between stuff on your taskbar
08:16.50Arrowmasterlike alt-tab?
08:16.51Brunerswithout showing that view
08:17.01Ellipsisyes but without opening the window
08:17.03Grumwin-e!
08:17.05Arrowmasterah
08:17.08Ellipsisit just selects the button on the task bar
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08:18.02Arrowmasterhmm i wonder if i still have that shortcut
08:18.30Arrowmasterah i do
08:18.47Arrowmaster%windir%\system32\rundll32.exe user32.dll,LockWorkStation
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08:19.33Kivintch. changing Program Files to Progra~1 in the alias file corrected the "Cannot find file" issue.  Antiquated peice of trash.
08:19.44Ellipsiseww
08:20.04KivinI've got the source code, I might have to figure out what it's doing to split strings
08:20.30KivinProbably turning everything after Program into argument(s) for the shell execute
08:21.05Arrowmasteryou know ive always wanted to try putting that shortcut into the startup folder
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08:23.28Pkekyo|wrkg'morning all
08:23.45Ellipsismornin Pkekyo|
08:24.01Pkekyo|wrkoh hai Ellipsis
08:24.08Pkekyo|wrkdidn't you flee the country yet?
08:24.18Ellipsisgimme a few more hours :P
08:24.46Pkekyo|wrkbwahah
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08:27.21CIA-4803jerry * r59030 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
08:27.21CIA-48LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
08:27.21CIA-48_ fix dataminer for the new Ammo categories (Misc.Reagent.Ammo).
08:27.21CIA-48_ dataminer run to update the Ammo categories
08:27.40Brunerswhow much rep does one full kara clear give ca.?
08:27.46Pkekyo|wrk5
08:27.52CIA-4803kivin * r59031 10KivinLootzor/ (Gui.lua Lootzor.lua modules/repfactions.lua):
08:27.53CIA-48KivinLootzor:
08:27.53CIA-48- Added skeleton repfactions loot table. Will be filled in shortly.
08:27.53CIA-48- Added version checking code, removed defunct compatibility code for Pawn and RatingBuster.
08:29.27Pkekyo|wrkwhat should I write, damnit? :p
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08:33.14Pkekyo|wrkEllipsis: hilfe, write my article for me
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08:35.44EllipsisPkekyo|: sure, go to the airport for me :P
08:36.32thulBruners: register with human etisk forbund then
08:36.41Brunersthul: why ?
08:36.58Brunersso that they can get even money ?
08:37.03thulnell, if you are not christian, why fund them=?
08:37.06thulnell, well
08:37.21Brunersthul: why fund anyone else?
08:39.05Brunersthul: if i could choose to say that money should be given to help people with narcotic problems instead of funding some denomination i would
08:40.50thulreligion is evil
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08:40.56thultherefore, supporting the church is wrong :-)
08:41.28Pkek|wrkmeh
08:41.38Pkek|wrkstate church concept is utter bollocks
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08:44.25Soleso I just read  a film essay some guy did for class
08:44.32Soleguess what the 'film' was
08:50.39Ellipsisdid you actually want us to guess? or were you planning to tell us eventually
08:52.55KivinGuess you'd better start guessing, Ellipsis
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09:05.50Antiarchttp://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43
09:05.53Antiarcel oh el
09:06.08ramozAntiarc: atal error: Call to a member function xpath() on a non-object in /home/mmo-champion/armory/create_sig.php on line 84
09:06.12Ellipsisold~
09:06.26AntiarcBleh :(
09:06.34AntiarcGuild/Realm/US or EU?
09:06.51ramozEU-Stormreaver
09:06.59NightHawkTheSanehmm, for kael, can warriors with the dagger use rend to break MC?
09:07.06Fisker-hai Antiarc
09:07.26Fisker-lulz?
09:07.27Fisker-btw
09:07.36Fisker-what happened to that copyright guy?
09:07.38AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Probably
09:07.42AntiarcFisker-: No response yet
09:07.45ramozNightHawkTheSane: yes
09:07.47Arrowmasterbest to hamstring
09:07.52thulwhat is up with hugo cavez?
09:07.58NightHawkTheSanehamstring seems like a bad idea, cause of the snare.. *shrug*
09:08.00AntiarcWhat time is it in Australia?
09:08.19AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: We have hunters wing clipping to break MCs
09:08.20AntiarcSo eh
09:08.21AntiarcAlso
09:08.22Fisker-probably around midnight
09:08.25Ellipsis8pm-ish
09:08.27AntiarcTell your rogues to make a macro consisting of:
09:08.27Ellipsisdepending on time zone
09:08.29Antiarc<PROTECTED>
09:08.31Antiarc<PROTECTED>
09:08.44AntiarcOtherwise they'll do 3-4k white damage to a clothie while trying to break the MC
09:10.38Fisker-holy shit Antiarc
09:10.44Fisker-http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579073&start=-9590
09:11.37AntiarcTrollin trollin trollin
09:11.42AntiarcKeep them flames a-rollin
09:11.57thulhmm
09:12.09Soleoh yeah
09:12.10CIA-4803jerry * r59032 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_enUS.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate
09:12.13SoleI forgot to say
09:12.20Solethe film essay was on 2 girls 1 cup
09:12.29Ellipsislulz
09:12.34AntiarcSole: http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080116/080115-7Eleven2-hmed-10a.hmedium.jpg
09:12.51thulSole: sick
09:13.04Ellipsisahaha Antiarc
09:13.09Soleomg
09:13.10Solehahahaha
09:13.21Solehttp://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/slowrider-nz2/spam/rs007.jpg
09:13.24Soletheres the essay
09:14.02Neeblerhttp://www.naturfotografen-forum.de/data/media/10/pict5508c_nf::Kai_R%C3%B6sler_.jpg
09:14.19ShirikAre you serious?
09:15.15ramozAntiarc: *poke* should i just ignore it and do something else? :O
09:16.09Antiarcramoz: For now, yeah :/
09:16.17AntiarcI'll check it out when I get a bit, but I suspect it's the armory not playing nice
09:16.28ramoz*cry!*
09:16.47ramozoh yeah, thats right, it hasnt been a good boy lately
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09:17.50thulbest vever sole
09:18.36Sole=]
09:18.49thulin 24 hours, I'm on my way home
09:18.50thulyehaw
09:22.51ramozAntiarc: although its working fine now
09:23.46Fisker-awesum Neebler
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09:34.13Finkergoth: PetInstance look awesome. does it work with warlock minions?
09:36.38Grumwhat is petinstance?
09:36.40Ellipsis^
09:38.35[Ammo]http://git.kergoth.com/wow/PetInstance/
09:38.42Fin"A little addon to change pet ability autocast and aggression states on entering an instance/battleground and revert back to their previous states on leaving the instance."
09:38.55Ellipsisthat's kinda neat
09:39.02Findead handy
09:39.05Ellipsisthough it would make more sense to do it based on solo/party/raid imo
09:39.16Finhm
09:39.21Findunno about that
09:40.06Fisker-damnit
09:40.10Fisker-not again
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10:12.58CIA-4803grum 07Ace3 * r59033 10Routes/ (Cartographer.lua GatherMate.lua):
10:12.58CIA-48Routes:
10:12.58CIA-48- Fixes part of the drycode (Summarize) but contains tiny bits of new drycode
10:12.58CIA-48- Missed localization for some of the code (got it on disk but can't commit yet)
10:14.54IndustrialGatherMate?
10:15.07GrumGatherMate :)
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10:15.23Grumlightweight gathernode-storage+display
10:16.24Grumdoes it ... hummz about 5 times as efficient compared to Cartographer_Notes+Herbalism+Mining+Fishing+GasExtract
10:17.02Grumalso Cartographer_Routes is loosing its Cartographer requirement soon and should be able to live of data found in either Cartographer or GatherMate
10:17.21Grumor .. possibly .. even .. maaaybe .... Gatherer :P
10:17.48Grumso you can use Routes with GatherMate/Cartographer/Gatherer .. or just standalone without any of em running (wont do much .. but hey ^^)
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10:37.11CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r59034 10Mapster/Config.lua: Mapster: move and rename options button
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10:41.10IndustrialGrum: nice
10:41.27OrionshockXinhuan, Elkano - re:Ace3-Fubar thread on forums... what do u think it should be called?
10:41.38Xinhuanwhat
10:41.42Grumeuh
10:41.52Orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10839.0
10:42.00XinhuanTaskBar, like i suggested
10:42.03Orionshockwhat u think that lib should be called?
10:42.14IndustrialEllipsis, please, not where theres other people
10:42.18Ellipsisoh
10:42.19EllipsisPM then?
10:42.20Xinhuandivided into 3 parts --- main display buttons, quick launch buttons and system tray buttons
10:42.24Industrialhokhai
10:42.37Orionshockbut the lib isn't actualy a display mechinisum
10:42.47Xinhuanoh, you didn't say its for the lib heh
10:43.12Orionshockatm im calling it "LibWoWRegistry"
10:43.16Orionshockbut that's wordy
10:43.20XinhuanLibTasks-1.0
10:43.35Orionshock"TaskManager"?
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10:46.16GrumTaskBar? :)
10:48.02Industrialwhat does it do exactly?
10:49.35Orionshockprovides a access layer between data addons and display addons. in effect this would provide a simpistic compatability layer so that a given addon dosn't have to write modules for fubar/titan / wtf else there is; they can write one generic plugin to this lib and the end user can figure it out from there with what they want to use
10:50.26Arrowmastersilly idea imho unless you can get somebody like the new people working on titan to agree to try to support it if its made
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10:50.47Ellipsisoh joy, we need 6 more layers of abstraction in between everything
10:50.48Grumwho cares for titan?
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10:51.01Ellipsisthen we need a LibLibManagerLib-1.0 to keep track of them all...
10:51.14GrumLibLibLibLibLibLib-1.0 !
10:53.52GrumEllipsis: not 6, just one :)
10:54.17Ellipsiswell really you're turning the 2 layers of abstraction into 3 now
10:54.26Grumwhy?
10:54.33Grumwho will be using fubar/titanbar?
10:54.47Ellipsiscurrently you have a fubar plugin lib as one layer, and then fubar itself as another layer (simplifying the whole frame creation/positioning/etc. process)
10:55.10Ellipsisadding a third making it work for *bar is a third layer
10:55.14EllipsisI'm just saying we need a few more
10:55.33Grumor have a central spot where you can register yourself and have any addon read from there
10:55.38OrionshockEllipsis: that's the point... we're trying to get rid of a few
10:55.43Grumbe it fubar or titanbar or whatever
10:55.47Ellipsisthat doesn't work if nobody implements it
10:55.56Orionshocktrue...
10:56.09Arrowmasterexcept nobody is going to use it for anything but the one major addon that uses it
10:56.12Ellipsisif someone wants to write this taskbar frontend thing? great, you've replaced FBP and fubar with libtasks and taskbar
10:56.15ElkanoEllipsis, theoreticaly it's more like replacing a part of FBP and putting the rest into FB itself
10:56.32Grumyup
10:56.45Ellipsisbut until you get fubar/titanbar/whatever ALSO hooking into libtasks....
10:56.48Ellipsisit's not saved anything
10:57.01Grumhow is that bad?
10:57.24Elkanowe managed to 'kill' KTM, why not do that again? ;)
10:57.36Arrowmasterlol we did =)
10:57.43Ellipsishow is it bad to rewrite a bunch of code that provides another option but doesn't actually act as a "central spot where you can ... have any addon read from there"?
10:57.53Ellipsisbecause people will be loading FBP anyway. or titanwhatever.
10:57.55Grumthe only real downside of this could be that you possibly need a lot of flexibility to make everyone happy
10:57.58Ellipsisand that just adds extra load.
10:58.20GrumEllipsis: transitions will always be annoying
10:58.38Ellipsisit'll be a lot more annoying if it never ends
10:58.47Ellipsiswhich it won't unless you get the support of the fubar/titanbar devs
10:59.00Arrowmaster2 not just 1
10:59.13Arrowmasterunless you want to expand it to be about more than just bars
10:59.19Arrowmasterbut icons too, which it should be imho
11:00.13ElkanoEllipsis, do you think people coding with Ace3 want to force the users to use FuBar(Rock) or Titan? once we get the lib a bit wider spread those addons will most likely start to support the lib, too. (especially since it's going to be agnostic)
11:00.28OrionshockEllipsis: mostly it's just theory atm.... once we got something basic and stable then we can appeal to the fubar and titan authors for support
11:00.58Arrowmasterwhy are we talking like we have to do anything for fubar support
11:00.59Grumwe could even have FBP be a simple front-end into the new lib
11:01.03Elkanomoving out from lecture hall... brb
11:01.25OrionshockArrowmaster: the authors to support the lib as a back end
11:02.06Arrowmasteryou really think people will want to use fubar w/rock once ace3 is out of beta?
11:02.12Arrowmasterpeople bitch enough about rockconfig
11:02.45Orionshockwrt rockconfig - i kinda like it actualy... it's not THAT bad once you get used to it
11:03.02Arrowmasteri agree but its invasive
11:03.13EllipsisElkano: what I'm saying is, "those addons will most likely start to support the lib" isn't an easy statement to make when nobody's discussed it with them
11:03.18Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:04.41Ellipsispeople are more likely to support a standard when they get to give input on it
11:04.55Arrowmasteryup
11:05.23Arrowmasterand when they know it wont be randomly updated and theyre expected to keep updating to support it
11:06.27CIA-4803jerry * r59035 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: GridStatusRaidDebuff: update frFR
11:06.34Ellipsisyeah
11:06.45Ellipsisbasically: include the devs, or it's going to fail (or at least be a pain in the ass to keep alive)
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11:10.32Orionshock... guys... we're just getting some fundamentals in place as a draft... not sure it's ready to have to have input by devs yet... it's not that they'd be excluded to begin with. hell it's not even on the svn yet.
11:10.42Fisker-hai?
11:10.46Orionshock*3pa devs
11:11.17EllipsisOrionshock: what's the harm in asking them early?
11:11.19Elkanonan desu ka.
11:11.28Ellipsismaybe they'll point out a fundamental flaw in the design you're about to implement
11:11.47Orionshocknothing just stop giving the 3rd degree about dev support
11:11.51Ellipsisthey have a very different point of view than an addon dev planning to use the lib
11:12.13EllipsisI'm not giving the 3rd degree, just taking issue with Elkano's plan of "write it and hope people support it"
11:12.41Orionshockwell every addon and lib is sorta written that way... "write it and hope ppl download it"
11:12.50Orionshockor use it, or support it, or embed it...
11:13.00Ellipsisdo you think Ace3 is being written that way?
11:13.07Ellipsiswrite the framework and hope people think it will be good for their addons?
11:13.21OrionshockAce3 has history behind it, lots of fans from v2 and v1
11:13.28Ellipsisfubar and titanbar don't have history?
11:13.46Orionshockim sure v1 had some of that "write it and hope it's used" idea
11:16.33Ellipsissure, but that was a while ago
11:17.16Ellipsisvery few addons, and especially very few libs, are written these days with no preconception of what they should do/aspire to/follow in the footsteps of
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11:20.49CIA-48- Add documentation for EH and EHB to About TankPoints 2.0.txt
11:20.50CIA-48- Also update changelog there.
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11:25.46CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r59038 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-DropDown.lua:
11:25.46CIA-48Ace3: AceGUI-3.0
11:25.46CIA-48- parent the dropdown list to the dropdown control
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11:39.53Kumagorogood morning
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11:44.27Pkekyo|wrkthul: ping
11:44.30Pkekyo|wrk~seen thul
11:44.32purlthul is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1397 messages. Is idling for 2h 25m 42s, last said: 'yehaw'.
11:45.30Pkekyo|wrksod it, forgot what I was going to ask him :p
11:45.31Pkekyo|wrkI hate irc clients with retarded smileyfaces >.<
11:45.38SunTsuPkekyo|wrk: Short attention span? ;)
11:46.30Pkekyo|wrkSunTsu: yes, that too...but not this time...I lost my train of thought when I continued writing on my article
11:46.52Pkekyo|wrkbut it's true, I've got an attention span like your average staircase :)
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11:48.07SunTsuPkekyo|wrk: I know, I suffer from that, too, sometimes at least
11:49.45Pkekyo|wrkI suffer from a short attention span AND extremely shitty short-term memory
11:50.32Pkekyo|wrk"Piracy is a crime. Do not steal ships!"
11:51.27Pkekyo|wrkoh hai Ellipsis
11:51.34Ellipsishai
11:51.51Pkekyo|wrkyou still around? weren't you fleeing the country with ckk liek...yesterday? :p
11:52.07EllipsisI'm leaving in ~45mins
11:52.26Fisker-:(
11:53.03Industrial:)*
11:53.16Ellipsisjust can't wait to get rid of me, Industrial? :P
11:53.35Industrialno, youll be back right? :(
11:53.47Ellipsisyeah...unless ck murders me
11:54.09Ellipsisnot sure when we'll actually have internets though :P
11:55.23Pkekyo|wrkwts intarnets veri chaep
11:55.48Ellipsislol
11:55.55Pkekyo|wrk:D
11:55.56EllipsisI am NOT putting in the extra effort to tab to the right one of your clones
11:56.05Ellipsisjust like I don't care if I call Fisker- fishbot2
11:56.13Pkekyo|wrk:)
11:56.32Fisker-:(
11:56.46Pkekyo|wrkhmm...do I have like 50 clones in here? this irc service is highly unstable, been reconnecting with new nicks all day :p
11:57.01EllipsisI think the most of you I've seen at once is 3
11:57.16Pkekyo|wrkshame...lots of me is lots of fun xD
11:57.29Ellipsiso rly?
11:57.33Pkekyo|wrkya'rly
11:59.12ramozPkekyo|wrk: think freenode is working on routing on two of their hubs
11:59.35Pkekyo|wrkramoz: what does this have to do with me spinning on my chair?
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12:00.11ramozwell, if you'd stop spinning freenode would stop work
12:00.20Pkekyo|wrkawmagawd
12:00.28Industrialwell then you just reboot eh internet and it'l be fine
12:00.33ramozyep, you better keep spinning
12:00.39Pkekyo|wrkI don't know how long the power cord of my laptop can take this O.o
12:00.53ramozget wireless power!
12:00.55SunTsu.o0( OK, I just reinstall the internet and all is fine again )
12:00.58Ellipsiswho cares about your laptop? the entire network is at risk here!
12:01.18Pkekyo|wrkEllipsis: valid point, it's not mine anyways, I just borrowed it
12:01.21ramozoh lol
12:01.29ramozFuncom pusponed - again.
12:01.59ramozpostponed*
12:02.31Fisker-postponed what?
12:02.53ramozAge of Conan
12:02.53Pkekyo|wrkthe fixing of your face!
12:02.54Industrialha ha!
12:03.00Fisker-lol?
12:03.02Industrial\ /
12:03.04Industrial<PROTECTED>
12:03.05Fisker-Funcom is making age of conan?
12:03.06Fisker-rofl
12:03.07Industrial/o\
12:03.11Pkekyo|wrkohlols
12:03.20EllipsisFisker- made Industrial a fail :(
12:03.41Fisker-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
12:05.47Industrialu made it failk
12:05.52IndustrialFisker-:
12:06.17Fisker-i owned you
12:06.20Fisker-with combo breakers
12:06.24Industrialgz
12:07.30Industrialo|-< *flip* >-|o
12:07.31Industrialha!
12:08.50Industrial? sispillE yhw ftw lol
12:09.05Industrialheh k thx
12:09.08Ellipsis<3
12:09.12Industrial^^ <3
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12:10.25Pkekyo|wrkCamci: they're monitoring us! RUN BEFORE THEY CAN GET TO YOU! RUUUNU! NAOW!!!!!11
12:11.45Pkekyo|wrkMOVE IT LIKE YOU'VE GOT A PURPOSE! You'll get us all busted!
12:12.18Pkekyo|wrkhow many chans does #wowace have idling agreements with?
12:13.39Ellipsisok guys, I'm writing up a to do list now...anyone have any requests for me to hug/slap/kick/secks ck on their behalf?
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12:18.25Pkekyo|wrkEllipsis: slap/kick/suckerpunc/dropkick and hug ckk from me pl
12:18.26Pkekyo|wrkx
12:18.40EllipsisI'll try and remember that sequence, sure
12:18.45Pkekyo|wrks/suckerpunc/suckerpunch/
12:19.04Pkekyo|wrkthe order of them aren't important...the more confusing you make it, the better
12:19.10Ellipsislol, k
12:19.53Pkekyo|wrk:)
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12:20.09Pkekyo|wrkalso, feel free to sodomize him with a floor lamp
12:20.27Ellipsiswill do, if there's one handy
12:20.46Pkekyo|wrkif not, trick him into buying you one
12:20.55Pkekyo|wrkor just have him take you to IKEA...doesn't matter
12:20.59Ellipsismaybe once we move out of the hotel :P
12:21.23Grummake pics!
12:21.34Ellipsisthat may actually happen >_<
12:21.34ramozare you like boyfriend/girlfriend? :O
12:21.43Grumno
12:21.53Grumbut if you see someone irl you can just undress em and take pics
12:22.01Pkekyo|wrkwho cares, as long as ckk gets sodomized with a floor lamp
12:22.08Ellipsis...
12:22.22Ellipsisramoz: undefined at the moment, we're just gonna see how things go :P
12:22.22Pkekyo|wrkyou know you'd love to, Ellipsis :)
12:22.28EllipsisPkekyo|: maybe
12:22.33ramozim having really nasty mental images right now, Pkekyo|wrk
12:22.49Grumi'm just curious, why the floorlamp?
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13:14.37SunTsu~cheer purl
13:14.38purlThree cheers for purl!  Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray!
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13:18.18CIA-481.0.4
13:18.18CIA-48Upgrade: Embedded libraries upgrade
13:18.18CIA-48Fixed: ...AlarLib-2.0.lua:4689: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
13:19.00Stanzilla-.-
13:19.30CIA-4803alar * r59044 10AlarArtRemover/ (AlarArtRemover.toc localization-enUS.lua):
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13:19.30CIA-48Upgrade: Embedded libraries upgrade
13:19.31CIA-48Fixed: ...AlarLib-2.0.lua:4689: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
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13:29.00Grum<MoonWitch> wtf? everyone keeps joining and leaving >.< <-- learn IRC - its called a netsplit
13:29.00Grumand netjoin :)
13:29.00Xinhuani checked my status log
13:29.00Xinhuan[Global Notice] Hi all! Just to let you know that there is scheduled maintenance taking place tomorrow; Monday 21st between 1200 and 1400UTC -- affected servers will be zelazny and niven and we encourage you to server hop prior to the downtime! Thank you for using freenode and have a great day!
13:29.01MoonWitchGrum, thanks for explaining. Seriously, my connection can be wonky, so I thought it could be me. And as far as IRC goes, I just learned a new thing
13:29.01Xinhuanthis was announced 25 hours ago
13:29.01MoonWitch< wasn't on IRC then
13:29.01Grum:)
13:29.01MoonWitchso can someone help me out with this?
13:29.01MoonWitch<PROTECTED>
13:29.01MoonWitch<PROTECTED>
13:29.01MoonWitch<PROTECTED>
13:29.01MoonWitch<PROTECTED>
13:29.01MoonWitchthat's where the error is .. apparently
13:29.01Grumwell, why is frames nil?
13:29.01MoonWitchno idea
13:29.01Xinhuanso whats wrong with it?
13:29.01Grumhow did you think of 'frames' ? :)
13:29.01MoonWitchit's haste's oMinimap which I modified to show coords :P
13:29.01Xinhuanwhy would you nil out your frames[] table?
13:29.01MoonWitchif I take out the part to create my coords, it doesn't do that error
13:29.01MoonWitchno idea
13:29.01Xinhuanremove it?
13:29.02MoonWitchhttp://moon.pastey.net/80985 here's the full code
13:29.03MoonWitchmy guess is I did something wrong with my coords
13:29.03MoonWitchbecause without the coords the error doesn't show up
13:29.03MoonWitchbut I have no idea what that code does, so yeah - I'm stuck
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13:29.37GrumMoonWitch: that is not the original code
13:29.37Grumif it was - it was broken
13:29.54MoonWitchit's not the original no
13:29.54Xinhuandefinitely broken
13:29.54MoonWitchmost of it is though
13:30.19Xinhuanthe reason why it broke
13:30.19MoonWitchI changed parts of locations of icons, added the voicechat stuff in it
13:30.19Grumstart over :p
13:30.19Xinhuanis because
13:30.19Grumyou broke it ;D
13:30.31Xinhuanlook at line 156-159
13:30.31Xinhuancan i assume you assed line 159?
13:30.31Xinhuanadded*
13:30.31MoonWitchyes
13:30.41Xinhuanthe OnEvent code only assumes that it will only get run ONCE
13:30.50Xinhuani.e, PLAYER_LOGIN
13:31.09MoonWitchah
13:31.09MoonWitchsooo
13:31.09Xinhuanhence it nils out the frames[]
13:31.19Grumand the second time .. BOOOM
13:31.19BlizzdDoes anyone know an addon to move the zone text frame?
13:31.19MoonWitchI need to build in an if check
13:31.38Xinhuanwhy even repeat that entire code
13:31.38Xinhuanjust write a second function
13:31.48MoonWitchI am working on it :P
13:31.48BlizzdI use a viewport so it appears right over my character
13:31.48BlizzdAnd it's kind of irritating
13:31.52Xinhuanor write your own mini addon
13:32.17MoonWitchjust for the coords?
13:32.23MoonWitchwell I could, I did consider that
13:32.28BlizzdI might also like hiding it entirely
13:33.08MoonWitchBlizz, /script MinimapZoneText:Hide() should hide it for the current session
13:33.12MoonWitchI think :P
13:33.13MoonWitchlol
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13:33.26MoonWitchif you write a miniaddon you can change the SetPoint of it
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13:34.01BlizzdI do have a small mini-addon which someone help me wrote so I could put one set of Pitbull frames over another set
13:34.02MoonWitchso because it's OnEvent and mine listens to 2 events, it double fires...
13:34.19BlizzdI could stick it in there if you tell me the code for setpoint and hide, depending on what I feel looks better
13:34.24BlizzdWould you?
13:35.32MoonWitchlocal zone = MinimapZoneText
13:35.32MoonWitchzone:ClearAllPoints()
13:35.32MoonWitchzone:SetParent(Minimap)
13:35.32MoonWitchzone:SetPoint("X")
13:35.32MoonWitchX can be BOTTOMLEFT, BOTTOM, BOTTOMRIGHT, TOP, TOPLEFT, TOPRIGHT, LEFT, CENTER, RIGHT
13:35.39CIA-4803jerry * r59048 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: remove an old workaround for a SecureButton bug. It seems to cause problem with Clique, even if I don't understand how.
13:35.51BlizzdAnd what do I do to hide it?
13:36.03MoonWitchMinimapZoneText:Hide()
13:36.07Blizzdk
13:36.09BlizzdThanks
13:36.37MoonWitchthanks Xin :) Gonna poor it into a mini one then :)
13:36.48MoonWitchpout*
13:36.51MoonWitchpour*
13:36.54Xinhuancould just create a second fram
13:36.56Xinhuanframe
13:37.01Xinhuanbeneath the original addon
13:37.09Xinhuanand register your own code/events with it
13:37.21MoonWitchcan I reg events with FontStrings?
13:37.22MoonWitch:P
13:37.28MoonWitchthat would be nice >.<
13:37.53Xinhuanno
13:37.56MoonWitchdamn lol
13:37.59Xinhuanonly frames
13:38.51BlizzdErm.. wait. Is this code to move the minimap zone text or the zone text that appears in the middle of the screen?
13:38.54BlizzdBecause I'm after the latter.
13:39.09MoonWitchoh
13:39.11Xinhuanclearly the former
13:39.12Xinhuan:D
13:39.12MoonWitch>.< sorry
13:39.17MoonWitchit's the former yeah
13:39.23MoonWitchand thanks Xin, it's sorted now
13:39.27BlizzdWhat do I do for the latter?
13:39.52BlizzdMy viewport makes it appear right in the center of my screen, and when I'm farming around Area 52 when waiting for my queues it's very irritating
13:39.53MoonWitchadded in a quick frame, set the fontstring to be part of the frame, registered the events with the frame :)
13:43.34ZhinjioBuh.
13:44.04BlizzdOkay I found out the name of the frames
13:44.05BlizzdZoneTextFrame
13:44.05BlizzdSubZoneTextFrame
13:44.12ZhinjioGood evening, Xinhuan.
13:44.41BlizzdI assume I just delete the parent line and make two copies of the code for each frame
13:44.56Xinhuanhi
13:45.14ZhinjioI actually have some motivation this morning. So... code.
13:45.15Zhinjioheh
13:45.33XinhuanRoutes Ace3 is beta now hehe
13:46.03Zhinjionot yet using any ace3 programs.
13:46.08Zhinjiowe'll see how long I can hold out *grin*
13:46.21BlizzdWell now it's not appearing at all.
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13:47.02BlizzdOh I see, they're both set to the same variable.
13:47.57BlizzdOkay, still not appearing.. let me upload to pastey
13:48.28Blizzdhttp://ace.pastey.net/80987
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13:48.51BlizzdMakes both frames go away forever.
13:49.24CIA-4803pericles * r59049 10InventoryOnPar/ (6 files):
13:49.24CIA-48InventoryOnPar:
13:49.24CIA-48-
13:49.24CIA-48v9.10 - Added default option to ignore Resilience and tick box option to switch between pvp & non pvp
13:49.24CIA-48So now it auto collects both types and stores them this avoids wiping database switching between two options
13:50.15CIA-4803pericles * r59050 10FuBar_IOPFu/InventoryOnParFu.lua:
13:50.15CIA-48FuBar_IOPFu:
13:50.15CIA-48-
13:50.15CIA-48Updated to use PvP or non PvP scores as per InventoryOnPar v9.10
13:50.40Brunerswhat is that web thingie called that shows statistics over boss fights?
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13:58.57Zhinjiowow web statsa
13:58.58Zhinjio-a
13:59.12Zhinjiois that what you're talking about?
13:59.33Brunersyep thanks
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14:07.21Fisker-man
14:07.30Fisker-getting money is so stupidly easy when you actually want to get money
14:07.40Fisker-i got 9,5k now instead of 5k
14:07.44Fisker-a couple of weeks back
14:07.51Fisker-and i still have 70 large prismatic shards on AH
14:08.02Fisker-and i didn't even get a lousy t-shirt
14:10.53mitch0fisker: do you have some tips for getting money with minimal actual available play-time? like 3-4 hours a week? :)
14:11.10mitch0and I'd like to get approx 4k gold
14:11.44mitch0(and no, I don't want to get "money for cheapz, visit us at ..."
14:11.46Fisker-i just craft arcanoweave bracers for disenchanting
14:11.49Fisker-also
14:11.58Fisker-get money for cheapz pm me your accountname and password
14:11.58Fisker-<PROTECTED>
14:12.05mitch0:)
14:12.23MoonWitchlol
14:12.41Fisker-bbl
14:12.47mitch0<PROTECTED>
14:12.55MoonWitchsomehow I feel tempted to do that for kicks
14:13.05MoonWitchlol
14:13.35MoonWitchya know, that's probably a password few would get >.<
14:14.10MoonWitchmine's actually very simple
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14:16.18mitch0fisker: what's the arcane dust/LPS price on your server? 12xarcane dust seems a lot... don't think it would be worth on our server :(
14:18.09CIA-4803pettigrow * r59051 10Capping/ (battlegrounds/EotS.lua locals/localization-frFR.lua):
14:18.09CIA-48Capping:
14:18.09CIA-48- frFR Update
14:18.09CIA-48- EotS: little changes to make it work with the french version
14:19.31ZhinjioAnyone happen to have th4e xact name of the summoning urn for nightbane handy?
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14:19.53mitch0ashes of something? :)
14:20.01exor674Blackened Urn
14:20.05Zhinjioaha, Blackened Urn
14:20.17[SW]DodgeGeschwärzte Urne <- deDE
14:20.28Grumhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=24140
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14:22.42ZhinjioI like that feature of the Key_BC addon to wowroster, you can add any item in as a "key" to the table.
14:22.45Zhinjiovery nice
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14:37.48Pkekyo|g'morning all
14:39.27Osstiamorning
14:41.53ZhinjioG'morning Pkekyo.
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14:42.07CIA-48InventoryOnPar:
14:42.07CIA-48-
14:42.07CIA-48minor edit to fix own score spam
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15:01.13ZhinjioXinhuan, have a moment for a theory question?
15:01.18Xinhuan?
15:02.03Osstiagod hates me
15:02.07Osstiathats my theory
15:02.22Zhinjiothis gets back to the syncing theory discussion we had like a couple months ago
15:02.31Zhinjiolemme take a minute to formulate this...
15:02.56Zhinjiook, which do you think is more efficient/effective:
15:03.56Zhinjio1) prior to a raid, raid leaders/master looters in separate raids make sure they have the same SK lists. Raids proceed, and loot events (and subsequent list changes) are broadcast to the RAID only... meaning that separately running raids will need to REsync after the raids finish .... OR
15:04.34Zhinjio2) ALL loot events and list changes are broadcast to the guild channel and affect all lists, even though a majority of the recipients of the message are not in your raid, and unaffected by your changes
15:05.04Zhinjiosometimes I wonder if I'm making sense at all.
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15:05.30Xinhuanif you choose (1), how and when are you going to resync?
15:05.39Zhinjioaye, there's the rub.
15:05.46ZhinjioAt minimum: prior to the next raid
15:05.59Xinhuanas obviously, the resync has to occur before the next raid starts (which as stated in (1), they have to make sure they have the same SK list)
15:06.19Zhinjio*nod*.... exactly.
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15:06.32Zhinjiothe way I'm seeing the sequence for a multi-raid night is something like...
15:06.37Xinhuanso if members from Raid1 and Raid2 later decide to go ZA and form raid3
15:06.43Xinhuanhow will their lists be updated?
15:07.14Zhinjiothats the disadvantage of option 1, to be sure.
15:07.24Xinhuanthere will be sync issues no matter which route you go
15:07.41Xinhuandepending on how disconnected your separate raids are
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15:07.47Zhinjiothe advantage I'm perceiving is that if you have non-guild-members in the raid, and you're broadcasting tot he raid channel instead... you still get all the comms
15:08.03nevcairielin-game databases are always a mess to sync, because of the lag of a accurate server time stamp
15:08.17ZhinjioI'm making my own timestamps.
15:08.25Xinhuanespecially if you have 2 dis-connected syncing groups
15:08.28ZhinjioI have to, basically, for that reason.
15:09.06Zhinjioso thats making it sound more and more like I should be broadcasting to the broadest audience at all times.
15:09.18Xinhuanconsider
15:09.25Xinhuanraid1 raids at 8am
15:09.32Xinhuanraid2 raids at 1pm
15:09.37Xinhuanraid3 raids at 6pm
15:09.48Xinhuanraid1 and raid2 contains entirely different ppl
15:09.55Xinhuanraid3 contains ppl from both raid1 and raid2
15:10.18Xinhuanraid1 ppl not in raid3 will have outdated data after raid3 finishes
15:10.18Zhinjioyup.
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15:10.27KalrothIsn't there an ace addon that saves the content of bank on various chars?
15:10.38Xinhuanquite a lot Kalman|
15:10.45Zhinjioall lists must be sync'd prior to running add'l raids.
15:10.46XinhuanKalroth*
15:10.47ZhinjioThis is a known limitation of the addon.
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15:11.03Kalman|Goddamnit, now there are two channels where I get mistaken for Kalroth.  :/
15:11.09Zhinjioand exists in all versions of it, tbh. I don't believe there's any way to avoid that without an external data source.
15:11.13[dRaCo]e.g onebank
15:11.17Xinhuanwell i usually type the first 3 letters
15:11.21Xinhuanbefore i press tab
15:11.21KalrothKalman|: Owned!
15:11.25Xinhuanbl on your first 3 letters!
15:11.51Zhinjio<3 tab completion.
15:11.53Xinhuani also just noticed the last 50 or so lines of chat are by ppl with 7 letter names
15:11.54Kalman|Kalroth: As we have established in #ej, I am your senior and therefore you should be mistaken for me, not the other way around.
15:12.11Kalman|Only because someone else owns Kalman, so I had to add a  |.
15:12.20ZhinjioI think Kalman threw in the extra | to make it uniform.
15:12.25Zhinjiohehehee
15:12.34KalrothKalman|: You like math though, hence I'm better!
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15:13.08Xinhuanattempting to sync databases over time is not really feasible
15:13.14Xinhuana webpage is far better as it is centralized
15:13.45Xinhuanthere is no centralized person in game
15:13.45Zhinjiowell, yeah. Thats what SK_List is for.
15:13.45Kalroth[dRaCo]: Thanks :)
15:13.45Xinhuanyeah and SKList will error when it can't resolve conflicts
15:13.45Zhinjiothats why I liked the discussion of using GB slots for data storage so much.
15:13.55Xinhuanif you're the guild leader, and you log on after raid1, raid2 and raid3 is over
15:14.01ZhinjioSK_List doesn't do any logic at all.
15:14.03Xinhuanlets say only a member from raid2 is online
15:14.04Zhinjioit just replaces what it has
15:14.09Xinhuanhow do you update that info?
15:14.14Zhinjioupload your LUA file
15:14.14krka_Zhinjio: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
15:14.15ZhinjioSV
15:14.22Zhinjioyeah, yeah... hush.
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15:14.28IndustrialZhinjio: its abot
15:14.36ZhinjioI know.
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15:15.27Zhinjioonly trusted raid leaders have access to the upload part of the web page
15:15.54Zhinjioso if they're being diligent (which rarely happens) ... whomever is the last raid leader done at the end of the night uploads his/her data and then everyone grabs that before the next raid
15:16.28Zhinjiomore realistically, everyone compares their "SyncKeys" before a raid to see who has the most recent (highest) number and then that person syncs out to everyone else.
15:16.33Zhinjiofar less than perfect system
15:17.42Pkekyo|STOP BEING SO BLOODY PREGNANT
15:18.12Zhinjioahem.
15:18.54Xinhuanin other words, this addon you're making requires an external webpage
15:20.15Zhinjiono, although if it is used actively, it facilitates mitigating the problems you're describing.
15:20.17Xinhuanand its not really possible to ensure the integrity of the data that the "most recent number" is correct
15:20.19PolarinaAnyone knows if there exist items with item ID higher than 36000?
15:20.47Xinhuani could update my synckey locally and pretend i have the latest version and sync out my modified data
15:20.50ZhinjioXinhuan: yeah... the most recent version of the code doesn't use the old "SyncKey" method anymore.
15:21.25Xinhuanthe code is not encrypted, most people can reverse engineer source code to see how its generated to go around it
15:21.43Zhinjioyes... however, only "trusted" people have the ability to modify lists.
15:21.48Zhinjiobased on the security settings.
15:21.58Xinhuanand the list of trusted people can also be modified
15:22.06Zhinjioonly by the GM
15:22.14ZhinjioGL, whatever.
15:22.26Zhinjiowell, no... you're right.
15:22.43Zhinjioanything can of course be reverse engineered. But ... thats always true of any system like this.
15:22.56ZhinjioI'm not trying to make it tamper proof.
15:23.02Zhinjiojust ... well, tamper resistant.
15:23.03Zhinjioheh
15:30.56PolarinaSomehow I have already begun to think about Ace4... Weird.
15:31.57PolarinaThanks.
15:32.09SunTsuYou're welcome ;)
15:32.30PolarinaSunTsu: That really cleard my mind. Now what was I thinking about? Ah, right, Ace5. :P
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15:33.18Fisker-anyone know an addon that can manage is people in a raid are late?
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15:33.33ZhinjioXinhuan: we also talked about the "uniqueid" part of an item string at one point... do you happen to know the limitations on that value?
15:33.51PolarinaSunTsu: How could you? :'(
15:35.24SunTsuPolarina: I'll let you out if you promise to focus on ace < 4 ;)
15:35.25ZhinjioI do recall it can be a negative or positive number.
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15:35.35PolarinaSunTsu: No problem.
15:38.35Xinhuannot really
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15:38.54[SW]Dodgewah, each time i use Cold Snap i got an error of babbel-spell ~.~
15:39.10[SW]Dodgeno tranlation for "Icy Veins"
15:39.42Grumuse enGB client?
15:40.14PolarinaGrum: No, it's patch 2.3.2 that broke Babble-Spell.
15:40.27CIA-4803ammo * r59056 10/branches/GuildFilter/: Created folder remotely
15:40.29nevcairielits not the patch, its mages
15:40.32[Ammo]babble-spell ain't broken
15:40.39[Ammo]it's the addons that are fucked
15:40.42Polarina:P
15:40.48Grumuse no addons!
15:40.58nevcairielor use good addons
15:41.12[Ammo]use proper addons instead of drek
15:41.26Grumbut they are broken? ;)
15:41.40PolarinaNope..
15:41.50nevcairielbabble-spell-2.2 contains Icy Veins
15:42.05CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59057 10GuildFilter/: Created folder remotely
15:42.07nevcairielcant check -3.0 because svn decided to not respond
15:42.19nevcairielwhich addon uses 3.0 anyway
15:42.24PolarinaThe there's only thing to do if it includes a translation for it.
15:42.28sb_mhh - wtb nice assessment config :p
15:42.31Polarina[SW]Dodge: Update Babble please.
15:42.37Fisker-~seen slake333
15:42.40purli haven't seen 'slake333', Fisker-
15:42.40[Ammo]svn is slow as hell atm
15:42.41Fisker-~seen slake
15:42.42purlslake <n=lethargi@216.254.115.46> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 744d 16h 35m 13s ago, saying: 'apt does download the deps'.
15:42.42[Ammo]but it works
15:42.54nevcairielok -3.0 does not contain icy veins
15:43.00Stanzillalol
15:43.04StanzillaI got a mail from blizzard
15:43.20nevcairielsomeone should just remove -2.2, and replace it with a stub that accesses 3.0 *shrug
15:43.23PolarinaStanzilla: On the Lua mailing list, like me?
15:43.31StanzillaPolarina: noo?
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15:43.46PolarinaOk.
15:43.52StanzillaI reported a bug in one of the howtos of their page
15:43.56Stanzillain december...
15:44.07CIA-4803ammo 07Ace3 * r59058 10GuildFilter/ (GuildFilter.lua GuildFilter.toc):
15:44.07CIA-48GuildFilter: initial import
15:44.07CIA-48- Will add filtering options/searchbox to the guild overview frame.
15:44.07CIA-48- Does nothing right now.
15:44.16Fisker-so what?
15:44.24Fisker-didn't know they actually responded to those
15:44.27Stanzillathey fixed it and said thank you
15:44.53Fisker-this is blizzard you're talking about right?
15:45.18Stanzillayes^^
15:45.30Fisker-i do not believe :o
15:45.39Stanzilla^^
15:47.47PolarinaThanks to the search tool, which makes it easy. :)
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15:58.15RaydenUni111 herbalism
15:58.17RaydenUniwhere should i go
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15:58.27RaydenUnii read around splintertree in ashenvale but haven't found anything yet
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15:59.36RecluseRaydenUni: what are you trying to find?
15:59.38Stanzillagaaah
15:59.47RaydenUnibruiseweed i'm told
16:00.17Recluseah
16:01.04RaydenUnibruiseweed!
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16:02.38Recluseone of those that's not too easy to find, even in the zones it is abundant in lol
16:03.50CIA-4803damjau * r59060 10Whats/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
16:03.50CIA-48Whats : 0.2
16:03.50CIA-48- update item data
16:03.50CIA-48- add sub menu frame
16:04.19RaydenUnihow do the levels work for herbalism?
16:04.25RaydenUnihow many below what i have is yelow/green?
16:06.32RecluseRaydenUni: a chart with each herb and when it changes color: http://www.wowwiki.com/Herb
16:07.15RaydenUnioh so i could just avoid bruiseweed and do stranglekelp
16:07.27RaydenUnicool link
16:07.40Reclusewowwiki ftw most times
16:08.18RaydenUnikodos look stupid when they jump btw
16:08.28Recluserofl, yeah i hate my kodo T_T
16:09.33RaydenUnimy raptor just looks great
16:09.39RaydenUniwolves have a really stupid gait
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16:10.24Reclusei love the wolf mount... until i saw it from behind. like their hip is broken or something
16:11.36PolarinaHmm... Wont Ace3 support sending through the addon channel about any type of data (tables, numbers, strings, etc.) like Ace2 does?
16:12.59sb_are there any premade (not the default ones - something 'nicer' :p) assessment configs around?
16:14.54Zhinjioanyone else have checkout/export problems with svn right now?
16:15.03Zhinjioor am I (once again) doing something completely nubbish
16:16.06PolarinaI don't.
16:17.36RaydenUniwhy do low level alliance insist on attacking me when i play with them
16:17.49RaydenUniwhen i attack you in cheetah form i don't want to gank you!
16:17.52MoonWolf~sunday
16:17.52purlSunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane.
16:18.12RaydenUni~caturday
16:18.33Zhinjioits giving me a failure opening the SVN filesystem "branches"
16:18.47Zhinjiowhy suddenly now. *sigh*
16:20.08Zhinjioah, found it. *sigh*. Yeah, I'm a nub.
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16:22.57RaydenUniwtb item that decreases mining by 15
16:23.04Grumwhy? :P
16:23.24RaydenUniso i can get skillups on stuff i leveled out of
16:23.51[SW]Dodgelol need the same!
16:24.36[SW]Dodgeneed to decrease by 150-175 that i easy cam skill with copper D:
16:24.40CIA-4803zhinjio * r59061 10/branches/SKG/ (SKG_Globals.lua Schema.txt):
16:24.41CIA-48SuicideKingsGeo :
16:24.41CIA-48<PROTECTED>
16:25.51Zhinjioalright. sleepytime. Peace y'all.
16:26.54Osstianight
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16:45.29RaydenUniherblism is easier to level than mining it seems
16:46.15PolarinaRaydenUni: Nope.
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16:46.32PolarinaRaydenUni: Not if you got a powerleveling guide. I know of one for free. :)
16:46.39RaydenUnimaybe i just remember doing higher level mining
16:46.40EvilJohn-i think herb is much easier to do
16:46.48RaydenUnisome mining sucks
16:46.59RaydenUnimithril i want to say...
16:47.05RaydenUnimake a full run of a zone to get 3 levels
16:47.07EvilJohn-it's really bad now,  since you don't spend much time in those zones
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16:47.20RaydenUniyeah i started at 0 on my spriest
16:47.24Polarina~google wow-europe profession powerleveling
16:47.29RaydenUnimoun helps a lot
16:47.33RaydenUniwish i could use my flying though
16:47.45RaydenUnieviljohn because you level faster?
16:48.00RaydenUnii read somewhere blizzard admits you can't keep up with mining through normal leveling
16:49.16RaydenUniand they'll address it at some point
16:49.20RaydenUniso maybe by wotlk
16:49.40RaydenUnii killed all but one of a barrens herd
16:49.43RaydenUninow this guy is all alone
16:49.53RaydenUniwow, that really makes me sad
16:50.07RaydenUnikodo herd*
16:51.16RaydenUnialso becareful before you equip any non combat pets
16:51.27RaydenUnii picked up the Dark Whelpling and equipped it without thinking about it
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16:52.56PolarinaI wish I could get WAU to work under GNU/Linux. I got as far as this: "Unhandled Exception: System.NotImplementedException: The requested feature is not implemented."
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16:53.30Matrix110if you are using Linux you can use a SVN client aswell :P
16:53.43PolarinaMatrix110: I want to try something new. :)
16:53.47Matrix110ah
16:54.05Matrix110Then you gotta wait for Mono or whatever it was called to work properly with net2.0
16:55.06PolarinaMatrix110: I'm compiling a unstable version of mono to see how that goes. :)
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16:55.55CIA-4803pernicius 07pernicius * r59062 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap/ (modCore.lua modMap.lua modPOI.lua modUI.lua):
16:55.55CIA-48AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap:
16:55.55CIA-48- removed follow button (the stupid thing wont work)
16:55.55CIA-48- added zone levels to the zone dropdown
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17:11.16ZarielKaelten: ping
17:14.25Zarieldoes SCT have a function to Display a message like Parrot/MSBT does?
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17:16.09kergothof course it does, how do you think sinklib does it?
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17:19.58stavmarwhat mod do people use to feed their pets?
17:20.19kergothkingofthejungle isnt bad, but its mend pet thingy is annoying
17:20.34kergothfizzwidget has one too, whats it called..
17:20.41kergothFeed-O-Matic
17:20.46SunTsuI simply use autobar
17:20.48kergothpretty decent, can macro it with /click
17:20.56stavmarthat was the one kergoth  TY
17:21.20stavmarHOw do you mean SunTsu? Create a button for pet food?
17:21.37kergothsometimes FOM gets confused and tries to feed my pet the wrong kind of food, usually after switching pets, but after feeding my pet once manually, its fine after that.  nots ure whats up there, tempted to write a new pet feedinga ddon
17:21.46SunTsustavmar: It already has a button for that.
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17:22.20stavmarit is for my wife and Autobar is just too busy for her
17:22.44stavmarKing of the jungle is Ace'd are there any other options
17:22.53kergothautobar is a bit of a beast, i like pt3bar for consumables myself
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17:24.58Finkergoth: PetInstance look awesome. does it work with warlock minions?
17:25.19Finalso, is it in the wowace SVN repository?
17:25.20kergothyep, from minimal testing with my warlock bank char in that instance in orgrimmar
17:25.32Fingreat, I'll let you know if there's any anomolies
17:25.46kergothnaw, its hosted on my server with git, and kept up to date on wowi
17:25.48kergothcool, thanks
17:25.50kergothhehe
17:25.54stavmarPetInstance, any other information on the mod kergoth
17:26.04Fingotta getta gitter
17:26.16Finis there a tortoise-like GIT client available?
17:26.50kergothstavmar: it sets up a button you can /click in your petattack macro which changes your pet ability autocast states and aggression on entering a bg/arena or instance.  sets him to passive in instance, aggressive in bg, disables growl in both, whatever.
17:26.54kergothcause laziness is ftw
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17:27.45stavmarlol, I guess for my lock I use a macro for each of my pets and their main ability, but looking at the WoWI page it looks pretty sweet
17:28.41Finkergoth: incidentally, Elli thought it would be useful to be able to do what PetInstance does, but according to whether you're in a raid, party, or solo
17:28.57Finjust thought I'd mention it
17:30.14kergothyeah i was thinking about that.  still not sure if itd actually be useful or not.  just being in a party doesnt mean i want my pet passive though, sometimes i group just to bs with lowbie friends and stuff, but am fighting nowhere near them
17:30.18CartasOh, hm... sorry for that kiss there, Kergoth!
17:30.25Cartas'Twas meant for Kalroth!
17:30.33KalrothUh oh
17:30.39kergothyou missed!
17:30.42kergothfix your aim
17:30.47CartasYou know you enjoyed it, Kergoth.
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17:30.56CartasYour one moment of fame!
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17:31.18kergoth*sniff*, i has no fame
17:31.52CartasWait until you read tomorrow's "NEWS" paper... 'Cartas attempts to kiss Kalroth but misses and gets unsuspecting bystander.'
17:32.07KalrothYou're such a slut
17:32.12Fin[18:30:27] <Cartas> Oh, hm... sorry for that kiss there, Kergoth!
17:32.12CartasNewspapers today are so bad that it wouldn't surprise me...
17:32.13Fin!
17:32.15Finye gods
17:32.19CartasHm?
17:32.21Finarne't you afraid you'll catch anything?
17:32.28CartasNah, I'm not worried.
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17:32.36Finare you immortal?!
17:32.41CartasI already have rabies.
17:32.45Finaha
17:32.46FinI see
17:33.39CartasMe and Kergoth don't need you, Fin.
17:34.17Finnot now! but come feeding time, who's going to open the tin of cat food?
17:34.49Finactually I might need Kalroth soon
17:34.57FinI should probably stop insulting him
17:35.06CartasWe were talking about Kergoth, not Kalroth...
17:35.08CartasRight?
17:35.12Finno
17:35.29FinI misread it the previous time you said it
17:35.39Finand before I was talking about Kalroth
17:35.56CartasI think either Kalroth or Kergoth should change their name.
17:36.04Finor merge as one
17:36.11FinKalergoth
17:36.16Finthe mighty!
17:36.29CartasWoah, imagine the power...
17:36.39CartasRabies and incompetence combined.
17:36.49Finit's too much responsibility for anyone to have in their hands
17:37.46FinI shall initiate Operation Delta Get Gothroth
17:38.30CartasHm, Fin?
17:38.38FinCartas
17:38.40CartasI think you're a bit mentally unstable, so you should stay in the cage.
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17:38.57FinI am in no way mentally unstable, you can ask my doctors
17:39.20Finmental stability is overrated anywya
17:39.22Finy>
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17:42.00derTobiAntiarc?
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17:44.02AntiarcHeya
17:44.25ZarielI fucking fail at thinking up names for addons D::::
17:44.38CartasWhat addon?
17:44.52RaydenUniyeah we can help you
17:45.56kergothi suck at addon names too, they always end up exactly what the addon does, no variation, not even a damn synonym usually :P
17:45.57ZarielTopScoreFU, without the Fu and wayy more simple
17:46.08Cartaslol Kergoth.
17:46.53CartasBigWigs -> 'ProvidesWarningsOnBossFightsInRaidInstances' :O
17:47.00kergothhehe
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17:47.46RaydenUniHatTrick?
17:47.56RaydenUniif you could encorporate 3 into it
17:48.00CartasHaving the addon name like that though, Kergoth, makes it easier for people to find, I guess!
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17:48.11RaydenUnithe worst one i think is AuldLangSyne
17:48.12kergoththere's already an addon named HatTrick, done by tekkub, adds checkboxes to teh character panel to show/hide cloak/helm, iirc
17:48.17RaydenUniit sounds cool but you ahve no idea what it does
17:48.19kergothi thought that one was pretty intuitive, really
17:48.25kergothauldlangsyne defiantely isnt
17:48.28RaydenUniand the phrase "let old acquaintences not be forgot" isn't very descriptive
17:48.30ZarielI can call it, Serious.period
17:48.34kergothhehe
17:49.09Zarielor just Period Tracker
17:49.23kergoththat sounds like some sort of menstruation calendar.
17:49.28Zarielyes
17:49.34CartasHaha.
17:49.46CartasWhat a great idea for an addon, Kergoth.
17:50.18kergothhahah
17:50.30kergothsinklib notifications about the raid leader and healers, i can see it now
17:50.39CartasDBMFTLBBQ
17:50.42CartasWhat kind of an addon name is that?
17:50.52Fin"they always end up exactly what the addon does" - thank fuck! I get fed up with these addons with totally obscure names that don't mean anything, sometimes
17:50.56ZarielDeadly Boss Mods for the loose bbq
17:51.26kergothi think there's a balance to be found, somewhere between too obvious and too obscure.  intuitive but not generic
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17:51.40Fincan't people call it - yeah! that's a good one, Deadly Boss Mods manages to use something non-boring without being crap
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17:52.30ZarielWTFCirt
17:52.30Zariel=/
17:53.41CartasWhy WTF?
17:58.14Grum[18:45:58]+<kergoth> i suck at addon names too, they always end up exactly what the addon does <-- how is that bad?
17:58.40ZarielI can call it, iTrackCrits
17:58.51GrumCritTracker?
17:59.05Grumsimple, to the point, user can guess what it does from the name itself
18:00.44ZarielToo generic
18:01.00ZarielBabelfish time
18:01.13CartasWhat's wrong with it being accurate?
18:01.46ZarielNothing, that name is just too obvious
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18:02.04CartasWhich is good!
18:02.07Grumthose are the best addons
18:02.11Grumi hate people with stupid names
18:02.17CartasLike Bigwigs.
18:02.27GrumBossWatch would be better for that one
18:02.33RaydenUniyeah bigwigs is a retarded name
18:02.34Kaziehmm.. anyone who knows what that RawrKitty addon does?
18:02.45RaydenUnimake the kitty go rawr
18:02.46ZarielBigWigs is good
18:02.46Kaziei mean.. it just says rawr! in the description lol
18:02.47Grumits RawrKitty
18:02.59GrumZariel: because it explains what it does? it does not :)
18:03.13ZarielTocs have descripts
18:03.16Zarieldescriptions
18:03.17Grumso?
18:03.30CartasBut who wants to go through addons downloading them to find out what it does? :o
18:03.33nevcairielGrum is just jealous because he sucks at naming stuff
18:03.35Grumcan you read those when you hear the term 'BigWigs' ?
18:03.47GrumLIKE YOUR PARENTS! >:(
18:04.01Zarielif your just browsing addons and installing them by name your doing something wrong
18:04.19Grumi should make a mod called Viagra
18:04.35Grumthat just tries to destroy as many SV-globals as it can find
18:04.36KazieAnd what should that do? .. give your character a hardon by command?
18:06.08Grumnevcairiel: you can say nothing, you didn't even find a good name for your 'anti-fog-of-war' plugin!
18:09.33Osstiawhy would viagra be a good name for that?  you do suck at the naming...
18:09.58Grumwell it works as viagra on me! seeing poor souls kill their SV!
18:10.17Osstiaewww
18:10.24Osstiathats wrong in so many ways
18:10.48Grum*wink*
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18:17.13PolarinaI could call AceDB Storace.
18:17.28RaydenUniso
18:17.37RaydenUnithese scorpids put a poison on me that lasts for 3 minutes
18:17.42RaydenUnihow am i supposed to heal myself?
18:17.51RaydenUnijust blow through a potion every fight?
18:18.07Grumdepoison?
18:18.39RaydenUnihmm
18:18.43RaydenUnii guess that would be a reason
18:18.48RaydenUninever bothered on any of my other characters
18:18.50RaydenUnimaking those
18:19.08Osstiawhat scorpids?
18:19.13RaydenUniit sucks that you have to fight guys who poison you to get the mats to make anti venom
18:19.19RaydenUnithe ones in shimmering flats
18:19.29Osstiai just did that area last night
18:19.40RaydenUniit was great on my druid
18:19.43RaydenUnibut on this warrior it sucks
18:19.44Osstiaeven on my druid I left the poison on
18:19.52Osstiait wasn't that bad
18:19.54RaydenUniyeah but a druid can heal with a spell
18:19.58RaydenUnipoison breaks eating, bandages
18:22.05RaydenUnioh i remember a question i had for you guys
18:22.10RaydenUniwhat is the purpose of Slam? warrior skill
18:23.18Zariel2h dps
18:23.37RaydenUnioh
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18:23.49RaydenUniyeah i was comparing it vs heroic strike with my sword/dagger and it seemed to be less dmg per rage
18:24.48NeoTrondid a first real try to do the timed loot in ZA last night - potted up (flask or elixir, food, wpn enchants etc) + reasonbly optimized group
18:25.22NeoTronwe messed up some on dragonhawk trash (6 extra guards spawned) and lynx (a few deaths and then a semi-wipe on trash) and were 4-5 off from getting lynx down in time
18:25.31Pkekyo|~time
18:25.32purltime is, like, 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.01.21 18:25:32 GMT
18:26.16RaydenUniwhich time NeoTron ?
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18:28.22kergothsomeone remidn me what you put in the FOnts/ dir in wow to override the base fonts using one of clearfont2's font packs
18:29.24NeoTronRaydenUni: the 45m you have to kill the aspect bosses to get the bear mount
18:29.29NeoTrontook s about 50m
18:29.38kergothwonder if thered be a useful macro to manage wind serpents.. seems like hafl the time when i want him to rush up and intimidate a mob/player, he fuckign stops part way there to hit him with his lightning first
18:29.50RaydenUnioh so you were going for the fastest time
18:29.50RaydenUniok
18:30.03NeoTronkergoth: turn lighting off autoattack and put it in your shot rotation macro
18:30.18NeoTronRaydenUni: not fastest time, just fast enough for the last prisoner not to be executed
18:30.30kergothhmm thats true.  guess i could turn it off in my intimidation macro and turn it back on in the rotation
18:30.33NeoTronfirst timew e've done ZA with 2 healers
18:30.35RaydenUnii thought there were like 3 levels, and the fastest gets you the bear?
18:30.37kergothbetter than nothign anyway
18:30.40NeoTronkergoth: no
18:30.44NeoTronkergoth: you don't want it on period
18:30.55kergothoh, manually hit it?
18:30.58NeoTronor he will, if not tanking, run out to ranged, cast lighting, and then move in to melee
18:31.15NeoTronbasically from what I understand it's a significant loss of dps
18:31.19kergothwonder how much thatd hurt dps, if my rotation doesn't match up with his focus intake
18:31.23kergothheh
18:31.28kergothah, right..
18:31.30NeoTronso yeah just put a /cast Lighting Breath in there
18:31.38kergothokay, thanks, i'll try that
18:31.43kergothreallky love the serpent otherwise :)
18:31.46NeoTronMind you my hunter doesn't have one, but our top dps hunter does it
18:32.08kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/brannis-and-serpent-1.png :) just need a name
18:32.47GngskWhite Momba
18:32.49Chompers'swooshy'
18:33.00Chompersin caps perhaps
18:33.05kergothhehe'
18:33.54KazieHmmm
18:34.02KazieAin't Omen surposed to show when you're in a party? .. :s
18:34.10ZarielDoes lua have a max table func?
18:34.16RaydenUniKazie it's an option
18:34.36KazieWhere? .. i don't seem to be able to make mine show.. i only checked Show with pet
18:34.42KazieShow when solo is unchecked
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18:35.09NeoTronwow http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hBkj-Bi6dzGMMrid_jOE2PHFsw4g
18:35.12NeoTronsucks to be them
18:35.38RaydenUnii dunno
18:35.44RaydenUniif you turn it off you have to turn it on i think
18:35.50RaydenUniif you are using fubar just click on the icon
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18:36.39KazieWell i usually have my omen show automatically when i join parties/raids
18:36.56KazieThe thing is just that.. i have the same settings as i usually do and it either shows all the time or not at all :s .. kinda wierd :o
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18:38.28Mezir|SemiAFKsup' ^_^
18:39.21KazieWhat's up Mezir|SemiAFK ^^
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18:43.01CIA-4803rabbit * r59063 10SimpleChatMods/ (11 files): SimpleChatMods: Removed all library usage.
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18:45.36Stanzillanow SCM is nearly the same as BCM :O
18:46.28vhaarreven with the library usage there was no difference, funkeh just ripped it for some unknown reason
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18:48.32bigzeroFin, ping
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18:58.48Pkekyo|anyone ever opened a harddrive?
18:59.05RaydenUnideath removes poisons i guess
18:59.07RaydenUniyes
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19:00.38CodayusPkekyo|: Yes.
19:00.54CodayusI opened it with a sledgehammer, filled it with methylated spirits, and set it on fire.
19:00.57bigzeroi don't get why atlas loot uses it's own tooltip. it's not like gametooltip would be used by anything else while hovering over an item in atlas loot
19:01.00CodayusI had my reasons.
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19:01.51Chompersporn
19:02.01Pkekyo|Codayus: teach me how to open it without the sledgehammer part
19:02.11Chomperswhy :S, you'll run it
19:02.34bigzeroPkekyo|: take a screwdriver and start unscrewing
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19:02.48bigzerothere's not much more science behind it
19:02.54Pkekyo|it's not proper fucking screws
19:03.30CodayusWell.
19:03.37Pkekyo|some fucking piece of shit unstandardized 6edged screws
19:03.45CodayusIn that case, I wouldn't recommend not using a proper fucking screwdriver.
19:03.55CodayusDoes your hardware store improper ones?
19:04.07CodayusAnd what would one even LOOK like?
19:04.25Codayuss/store/store sell/
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19:04.58Pkekyo|nevermind, found one with proper screws :p
19:05.51NeoTronthe world is becoming a better place for sure. now there are AI agents that can play Ms Pac-Man equally good or even better than humans
19:06.14RaydenUniever noticed that once you get to 9/10 on a drop quest all the mobs stop dropping?
19:07.03bigzero'tis true RaydenUni
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19:07.37PolarinaI'm out of ideas for a good addon... :'(
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19:08.07Pkekyo|Polarina: make one for pr0n
19:08.23PolarinaPkekyo|: I said for a GOOD addon!
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19:09.21Pkekyo|how can that be not good? :p
19:09.29bigzeroi'm confused as well
19:10.29Pkekyo|OH FUCK ME SIDEWAYS
19:10.41Pkekyo|this piece of shit drive's got unstandardized screws too
19:11.20bigzeroumm...why do you want to open a hardrive anyway?
19:11.46Pkekyo|1 - it's fun
19:11.46Pkekyo|2 - need an illustrational photo :p
19:12.12bigzeroimages.google.com
19:12.36RaydenUnialso
19:12.48RaydenUniyou will only miss 8 times in a row if the mob has 1% life
19:13.14Pkekyo|bigzero: can't ninja any, sadly :<
19:15.29RaydenUnii only need one more!
19:15.34RaydenUniyay
19:17.33CIA-4803rabbit * r59064 10SimpleChatMods/timestamps.lua: SimpleChatMods: Forgot to enable the timestamps.
19:17.55Pkekyo|why are there plastic bags with white powder in them inside my harddrive? O.o
19:18.08RaydenUniplastic bags?
19:18.14RaydenUniwould they be moisture absorbing bags?
19:18.33NeoTronRaydenUni: he's trying to make a joke about there being drugs smuggled in his harddrive I presume
19:19.22Pkekyo|NeoTron: no, I'm genuinely interested in knowing why the flying fuck there are bags with white powder in them inside my harddrive
19:19.44NeoTronPkekyo|: ok then, that is unexpected. :P
19:19.52RaydenUnii would expect moisture absorbers
19:20.04NeoTronsounds odd to have inside a harddrive
19:20.11Pkekyo|yes
19:20.12NeoTronbesides, usually beads not powder
19:20.21NeoTronare they marked?
19:20.45Pkekyo|unmarked...one bag is all white, another one is transparent with a white powder inside
19:21.15RaydenUnidoes it smell like cocaine?
19:21.23Pkekyo|I wouldn't know
19:21.30RaydenUnieat the bag
19:21.33RaydenUniif you die, then it's cocaine
19:21.34YourMomsHerolol
19:22.31Pkekyo|rofl
19:22.36Pkekyo|good to know
19:22.40NeoTronit sounds seriously weird however, if in fact it is the actual truth and you're not pulling legs :P
19:23.18Pkekyo|no, not pulling legs
19:23.21Pkekyo|I don't do that
19:23.33Pkekyo|unless it has something to do with someone's mother
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19:24.46UhuruHi, is the developper of spamsentry here ?
19:25.08RaydenUnidoes sunder armor have a higher than normal chance to miss?
19:25.14RaydenUnibecause it seems like it misses all the time
19:25.51PolarinaUhuru: What's the problem?
19:26.20Pkekyo|RaydenUni: it's just that tanks have NO +hit
19:27.01CartasI do!
19:27.08CartasToo much hit, I think, hm...
19:27.54UhuruPolarina the latest version of spamsentry is continually giving me errors in my bugsack, actually 230 errors and constantly increased
19:28.13Uhuru[2008/01/21 20:27:55-1348-x56]: SpamSentry\core.lua:501: attempt to compare nil with number
19:28.31NeoTronisn't spamsentry abandonware now? like no updates for months? is it still functional?
19:28.58PolarinaUhuru: What do you use SpamSentry for?
19:29.21Uhurufor blocking and report spam from gold seller
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19:31.31PolarinaUhuru: There's a addon that does that automatically.
19:31.39Pkekyo|spamsentry still works, and is the best spamblocker out there...it's a bloody miracle
19:35.26Pkekyo|NOW STOP BEING SO BLOODY PREGNANT
19:35.42Polarina...
19:35.52Pkekyo|truth
19:37.18PolarinaOk.
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19:49.33Ozgulilol, cowtip is cool
19:49.44Ozgulinow I can tell if it's safe to attack some shaman for example
19:52.26CartasWhy's that, Ozguli?
19:53.36OzguliI'm a priest.
19:53.45Ozguliench -> I die
19:54.31KazieI'm going crazy.. anyone who can tell me how to make Omen only show when in a party/raid? :s
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19:55.13Chompersdisplay> untick 'always show omen'
19:55.48kergothhmm, i should look at mhud's energy ticker.. i'd be willing to bet sometimes it misidentifies a UNIT_ENERGY as a tick, especially for rogues with combat potency
19:58.13kergothshould do a quartz module for a ticker
19:59.38kergothhttp://ace.chainweb.net/ - huh, tahts cute
20:00.49Kivinwow, who created that?
20:01.51kergothmhud guy linked to a download from there
20:01.51KivinHow'd you find it?
20:01.54Kivinoic
20:03.51Fisker-another week, no shield
20:03.54Fisker-so fun
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20:08.22PolarinaWhy doesn't AceComm-3.0 serialise data like AceComm-2.0 does?
20:08.30nevcairielbecause it sucked
20:08.53Polarina?
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20:10.02PolarinaI was starting to like it...
20:10.06PolarinaWhy remove it?
20:10.59nevcairieluse AceSerializer if you want serialized data
20:11.03nevcairielotherwise, use what you get
20:11.08Polarinao.O
20:11.19PolarinaWhy can't it be embedded, I don't get it...
20:11.27nevcairielbecause we said so
20:11.40PolarinaThere must be a reason..
20:12.21nevcairielthere are good reasons behind all our decisions regarding Ace3, i just dont have the time to explain everything. accept it, or use something else
20:12.39PolarinaOk.
20:12.42KazieChompers: It is unchecked.. but it still do not show when i join a party :s ..
20:13.51Chompersversion 2.1r55025 ?
20:14.32Kaziethe newest
20:14.35KazieDownloaded it today
20:14.45Kaziewith WAU
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20:18.48KaeltenPolarina: forgive nev, he's on the rag atm.   we broke AceSerializer out of AceComm to bring more flexibility and control.  
20:19.26Polarinakaelten: Ok.
20:20.00Kaziei was wondering
20:20.38Kazieis it possible to make an addon that is in contact with your wowace.com website and forum user/account and notify you with new pms, answering in posts and shit? :)
20:21.10Gngskaddons can't communicate with the outside world
20:21.13PolarinaKazie: Yes, it possible, but not allowed. It would be categorised as an illegal addon.
20:21.33KazieCould be fun tho :)
20:21.55Polarina:P
20:22.40Kaziei guess we'd need sort of a client like WAU .. WA.Notifier or something that runs in the Systray and popop a message like msn or something when ever there activity involving you ^^
20:23.00Kaziewould if i could :s
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20:29.03Zariel~seen Kaelten
20:29.07purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 8s) #wowace (7h 8s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 10m 19s, last said: 'Polarina: forgive nev, he's on the rag atm.   we broke AceSerializer out of AceComm to bring more flexibility and control.  '.
20:30.22Kaeltenhrm whats yellowhi
20:30.26Kaeltendoh
20:30.28Kaeltenlol
20:31.01ZarielKaelten , can we sort out SVN an account please?
20:31.02Gnarfozhow do you dispel Kae'thas's Mind Control without killing the afflicted?
20:31.24Stanzilla^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^just dont hit hard
20:31.27Stanzillawtf
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20:39.54PolarinaHmm... Maybe I should make a completely new UI for World of Warcraft.
20:40.09Kaziei'm doing that right now ^^...
20:40.22PolarinaKazie: You are?
20:40.43Kaziei'm Kazie.. a UI maniac ;D
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20:41.15PolarinaKazie: I'm not talking about fetching some addons and hack them together...
20:41.33Kaziein that case i'll volunteer for testing you stuff ;D
20:41.36cncfanatic1anyone know of an addon that can parse beancounter data and show me AH profit / loss ?
20:43.49Finis it possible to find out the raid ID of another player, possibly if you were raid leader?
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20:44.13PolarinaFin: Addon communication?
20:44.22Finother than that
20:44.27NeoTronGnarfoz: just use warriors with sunder armor, hunters with wingclip etc using the legendary dagger..
20:44.34FinI was hoping for a GetRaidInstanceID(player) or summat
20:44.35PolarinaFin: Troll the forums?
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20:44.43CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59065 10Routes/ (Cartographer.lua GatherMate.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Rearrange code to bail out later
20:44.47FinPolarina: to find out someone's raid ID? :)
20:45.05Finbigzero: pong
20:45.12Xinhuanloop raid1 - raid40
20:45.14PolarinaFin: No, to have Slouken or Zootfizzle give up on you and implement that function to get rid of you.
20:45.17Xinhuancreate a lookuptable if you want
20:45.30Xinhuanand update this table everytime the raid changes
20:46.00Finoh, heh, wish I could Polarina, but I can't post to the US forums
20:46.46Finunless that's changed
20:48.12bigzeroFin, the mirror tooltip and bank log... of course it doesn't show. not meant to
20:48.28Finbigzero: oh, er, OK then. why not?
20:48.43bigzerobecause it's not a chatframe...
20:49.12FinI didn't realise that the show-tooltip-on-hover was specific to chat frames, and honestly I can't see why it would be
20:49.16Finbut, hey, I don't really care
20:49.23bigzeroand i don't think i want to code for every possible frame that uses hyperlinks
20:49.40ShirikFin: You could use Conspiracy's Unit table :P
20:49.50ShirikUnit.new("Fin")
20:49.51Shirikdone
20:50.12GnarfozNeoTron: hunters refuse to wear the legendaries besides the bow, lol
20:50.29FinShirik: eh? :) to get someone's raid ID?
20:50.34Shiriksure
20:50.37GnarfozStanzilla: how to do that as a rogue or enh shaman? :>
20:51.04StanzillaGnarfoz: I think there's a macro for that.. go ask Antiarc or another rogue
20:51.06ShirikUnit.new("Fin"):GetUnit()
20:51.17Finbigzero: I assumed you'd hooked the <I've forgotten the function name, something like showitemhref or similar> function or summat
20:51.17GnarfozAntiarc: ping
20:51.23ShirikThe processing time should be close to nothing since it should already have the unit in existence
20:52.04Finhow does this work exactly? do the other players need the library installed as well? is Conspiracy's Unit table a library? I have no idea what it is I'm afraid
20:52.08Antiarcpong
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20:52.32ShirikYou would need to have the Conspiracy library installed, yes :P The other players? No.
20:52.41bigzeroFin, i hooked ChatFrameX:OnHyperlinkEnter()
20:52.47ShirikConspiracy maintains a unit table, yes, but that's not really how it operates
20:52.54Finaha, OK bigzero
20:53.05PolarinaConspiracy?
20:53.18Finso... if Conspiracy can find out someone's raid ID, there must be a way for me to do it without using Conspiracy, right?
20:53.28Finunless, wait, is Conspiracy a Blizzard guy?
20:53.29Shirikuh, yes, but it would require a lot of work :)
20:53.39Finnow I'm really curious
20:53.59Finhow does it work? wait... unit table, sounds like a massive lookup table of some sort
20:54.06Finmy spidey sense is tingling
20:54.13ShirikConspiracy is a long overdue raid UI framework that's currently in alpha :P It assists developers with common raid tasks as well as provides a common interface for everything
20:54.26Polarina...
20:54.53Ellipsisan interface for everything
20:54.55Ellipsishow useful!
20:55.03Shirikfor conspiracy modules :P
20:55.38Osstia~seen kivin
20:55.40purlkivin is currently on #wowace (7h 29m 47s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 53m 46s, last said: 'oic'.
20:55.42Finare you anything to do with its development, Shirik? and, thanks for giving an overview of what it is, but I'm still unclear on the how it works part
20:56.05ShirikYes I have a lot to do with its development :P And it's hard to explain because it's not just a tiny thing, sorry ><
20:56.15ShirikI do, however, think it would be overkill for your purposes
20:56.26Shirikhowever maybe I can provide you with some snippets of code from it that may help
20:56.30Finwell, could you give me some pointers as to where I can find out more, please?
20:56.46Finanything would be an improvement on my current state of complete ignorance
20:56.56Shirikhttp://conspiracy-ui.com but I repeat it's currently in alpha :)
20:57.04CIA-4803bigzero 07iLevelFiltering * r59066 10Mirror/Mirror/Mirror.lua:
20:57.04CIA-48Mirror:
20:57.04CIA-48- let's try setting threshold by percent of item level, not a definite number
20:57.04CIA-48- Mirror_iLevelThreshold should now be set to something inbetween 0 and 1. 0.2 would filter items that are lower than 80% of your currently equipped item level.
20:57.33FinI have to say, you're quite happy to talk about advanced maths on other channels, I don't think you should be afraid of discussing complicated subjects here :P
20:57.58ShirikWell I can't give it justice trying to explain it here, that's the problem
20:58.11ShirikAlso, did I really write this?if n == 0 then -- No party, all alone, :(
20:58.19ShirikIs there a way for SVN to tell you who wrote a line of code?
20:58.20Finbigzero: hooray! nice
20:58.34Saisblame
20:58.41Finyyyess
20:58.42ShirikOh is that what blame is?
20:58.46ShirikI always wondered that haha
20:58.47SaisYEP
20:58.50Saisgah
20:58.52Finheh, that's what I said when I first found out
20:59.05SaisIt's cvs's annotate
20:59.15Saisblame/praise, iirc
20:59.48Saisblame (praise, annotate, ann)
21:00.08ShirikHeh, I hit blame and a popup comes up
21:00.15Shirik"Please wait, this can take several minutes, seriously!"
21:00.21SaisOh - a gui, eh?
21:00.27Shiriktortoisesvn = <3
21:00.32winkillerdon't get me started on cvs
21:00.36SaisI'm a cli man
21:00.42Finno, don't start on CVS
21:00.44ShirikHa, I knew it
21:00.47ShirikThat line was written by Cidan
21:00.53winkillerspent hours today debugging cruisecontrol + cvs log and statcvs
21:00.53ShirikI'm not crazy
21:01.04PolarinaOr maybe I could write a library like Ace or some...
21:01.44Fincall is Nice
21:02.04FinSweet
21:02.19Shirikblame = <3, thanks Sais
21:02.49ShirikDude, sweet!
21:02.58FinDude, ace!
21:03.13Finwhat do you call a chav in a box? innit
21:03.19Finwhat do you call a chav in a locked box? safe
21:03.26Finwhat do you call a chav in a filing cabinet? sorted
21:04.14CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r59067 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-DropDown.lua:
21:04.14CIA-48Ace3: AceGUI-3.0
21:04.14CIA-48- revert change to dropdown control until we can figure out whats going on
21:04.48PolarinaYeah... I'm going to write a library. Ellipsis is hurting himself because of me. :)
21:05.02Ellipsisherself, ty
21:05.09Shirikitself
21:05.15Polarinas/himself/herself/
21:05.18Finfor some reason I had the impression Elli was female
21:05.21Finoh
21:05.23Ellipsis...
21:05.27EllipsisI am
21:05.29Ellipsisand now I have proof
21:05.29FinITYM ()
21:05.32FinHTH
21:05.49Finyou have a picture of yourself online - and you're going to share?
21:05.54GnarfozAntiarc: eh, untargeted pong not worky
21:05.55ckknightI have one!
21:05.56Ellipsiser, I've had pics up forever
21:06.09ckknighthttp://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3250/photo15ob0.jpg
21:06.24ckknightshe didn't irl
21:06.34EllipsisI could, thoguh
21:06.36Ellipsisand that's what matters :)
21:06.40ckknightI suppose
21:06.42AntiarcHeh, ckk, you in LA now?
21:06.43ckknightbut you're awfully lazy
21:06.46ckknightAntiarc: SFO
21:06.50AntiarcOh, nice.
21:06.50Ellipsismeh, I could throw something at you
21:06.54Finisn't it annoying when you're downloading a picture of someone, and it stops right at their forehead
21:06.55ckknightlulz
21:06.59Ellipsisbut my arms are tired from carrying bags all day >_<
21:07.21chiperfin: good, i'm not the only one
21:07.32chipereven refreshing it didnt help
21:07.33Fin[22:06:46] <Ellipsis> and that's what matters :)  <-- well go on then
21:07.37Finstop faffing about
21:07.54chiperwtf, that image is fail.  you could be a guy with long hair
21:08.01EllipsisFin: don't tempt me
21:08.10EllipsisI don't want to make ckknight think I'm mean though :(
21:08.16ckknightchiper: afaict, Ellipsis has no face
21:08.16Finpeople see you who aren't on the internet all the time! I've never understood this, it's like people who are shy on Teamspeak - do they not speak offline?
21:08.19ckknightjust lots of hair
21:08.25chiperhaha
21:08.29Ellipsisit's true
21:08.42Stanzillashe's talking from her butt cheeks
21:08.43Stanzilla*hides*
21:08.52ckknightshe has hands
21:08.59ckknightbut no, she has a face, I've seen it
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21:09.05ckknightI compared it to Avril Lavigne
21:09.14Ellipsis...
21:09.15ckknightalso short
21:09.16chipercompared it how?
21:09.23XinhuanOrionshock
21:09.26ckknightsaid she reminded me of her
21:09.27chiperI can compare MY face to Avril lavigne.  I look nothing like her
21:09.27EllipsisI CAN'T HELP BEING SHORT GEEZ >_<
21:09.41ckknightyou can if you _believe_ you can
21:09.58FinEllipsis: how do I tempt you?
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21:10.50chiperso, is there a Mage form of AEP?
21:11.05chiperperhaps an IEP?
21:11.23GnarfozAntiarc: Stanzilla mentioned some kind of possible macro voodoo to be able to dispel Kael'thas's Mind Control from people without killing them in the process (as a rogue)
21:11.31Antiarc<PROTECTED>
21:11.32Antiarc<PROTECTED>
21:11.34AntiarcDone.
21:11.51Gnarfozhm
21:11.58Gnarfozshiv doesn't always proc the dispel, though
21:12.12AntiarcNo, but you spam it
21:12.14AntiarcOnly specials do
21:12.15Gnarfozalthough stopattack is good
21:12.19Gnarfozah
21:12.31Gnarfozwe tried only using white attacks do minimize damage taken by the afflicted
21:12.31Gnarfoz;D
21:12.37AntiarcHaha
21:12.49Gnarfozany way for shamans to help out? not many non or low damaging abilities available for them
21:13.21AntiarcNo, shaman are a bad choice for it
21:13.59RaydenUniwhat is this MC?
21:13.59AntiarcThey can frost shock rank 1
21:13.59PolarinaI hate it when addons requires you to visit the bank to be able to know how many items you got...
21:13.59AntiarcTo snare the MC'd people
21:13.59AntiarcSo rogues can catch them
21:13.59RaydenUniit dispels if you cast a spell on someone?
21:13.59AntiarcKael MCs people
21:14.00AntiarcThe dagger dispells it
21:14.00RaydenUnihow so?
21:14.01RaydenUniwhat dagger?
21:14.10Gnarfozby proccing it's built-in spell that does exactly that
21:14.14GnarfozInfinity Blade
21:14.19Gnarfoz!i Infinity Blade
21:14.23Gnarfoz-.-
21:14.28Gnarfoz~i Infinity Blade
21:14.28purlYou Infinity Blade?
21:14.31Gnarfozk, no bot around :P
21:14.42Gnarfozpurl, stfu
21:14.43purl:(
21:14.44kadrahil~lart purl
21:14.44purldrops a humongous exploding nuke on kadrahil
21:14.44ThraeBotGnarfoz:  Name: [Infinity Blade]; Rarity: Legendary (Orange); Unique; One-Handed Dagger; 171 - 318 dmg; 2 delay; 122.25 dps; +35 Stamina; Requires L70; 95 Durability; +25 CritRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 70.;
21:14.44ThraeBot<PROTECTED>
21:14.49Gnarfozah, laggy. :)
21:14.49kadrahil;(
21:17.10PolarinaI wonder why the addon ForeverAFK doesn't work when you are resting at a inn or a capital city...
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21:18.35MegalonPolarina: because you logout in an instant when resting
21:18.50PolarinaMegalon: You do?
21:18.59Ellipsisforeverafk works by hooking the logout in 20sec staticpopup
21:19.03Ellipsisyou don't get that while resting
21:19.10PolarinaOh...
21:20.12PolarinaSo, where I'm not resting, I could leave my character logged in and go to sleep, and when I wake up the day after, I would still be logged in?
21:20.51sdoubleI imagine blizzard would not be a fan of such thing.
21:21.00PolarinaWhy?
21:21.21Coreycncfanatics are you here?
21:21.23sdoublethey have a limit to how many people can be logged in as once
21:21.46sdoubleand if there are 300 people logged in at all times, that's 300 less slots that could be used on a full realm
21:22.12PolarinaAnd? :P
21:22.21sdoubleheh
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21:24.04PolarinaI'm going to AFK and send some addon messages to random players. :P
21:26.19PolarinaI think I'm going to do exactly just that. :P
21:26.25robotuschpresumably it works by reacting on the You are now afk message, which you won't get in a city
21:26.46robotusch.. or something like that :/
21:27.29Ellipsisit basically just sees the logout dialog pop up and clicks cancel
21:27.36cncfanaticsCorey: yes
21:27.38Ellipsisjust like you would if you were paying attention when it afk-logged you
21:28.51RaydenUnii used it to take a nap while waiting for AV
21:29.20PolarinaI want to write an addon that is of some us (Or a library) but I'm all out of ideas. And Pkekyo|, don't suggest a pr0n library or addon!
21:30.08Ellipsiswrite me a good dot timer :)
21:30.16PolarinaDOT timer?
21:30.20Coreycncfanatics im having trouble with the line command
21:30.20robotuschwrite an addon that will put stuff in the right gbank tab :/
21:30.26Ellipsisyes, you know, the things that tick and do damage
21:30.34Polarina...
21:30.48cncfanaticsCorey: ask up
21:30.49robotuschno fun seeing the same stuff on 3 different tabs, just because I can never remember what I put where
21:31.10Coreycncfanatics when i do fb line group=Transports rows=1 it says perameter button not set
21:31.24Ellipsis!
21:31.28cncfanaticsCorey: group Transports doesn't exist then
21:31.31cncfanaticsmake sure its spelled right
21:31.48Polarinarobotusch: Maybe something different from that.
21:31.58Coreycncfanatics it works for lock/unlock fb lock group=Transports
21:32.05Coreycncfanatics just not the line one
21:32.37cncfanaticsline & lock/unlock get button passed in the same way
21:32.40cncfanaticslet me doublecheck though
21:32.46Coreyok
21:33.15cncfanaticsthey both do the exact same validity check
21:33.37PolarinaMaybe I'll just do some Ace4 or something. :P
21:33.40xyuyer a validity check!  boo yah~
21:34.04chiperneed some closetgnome help
21:34.06xyu7 minute abs
21:34.08Coreyhmm its not workin for me though
21:34.15cncfanaticsCorey: can't see whats wrong
21:34.18cncfanaticsespecialy as it works fine here
21:34.23chiperit says to left-click to toggle a slot.  when i left click, it just picks up the item
21:34.33Coreymy revision is 55549
21:34.58cncfanaticsthats the latest one
21:35.00cncfanaticsidk Corey
21:35.16cncfanaticsare you SURE its spelled right ?
21:35.23Coreyyep cause it works for lock too
21:35.40Coreyit doesn't even work when I do button=Transport1;Transport2;Transport3
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21:35.57chiperI know there's people in here who use closetgnome, somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong :P
21:36.18vhaarrchiper: your shift key is down then
21:36.29genetik-chiper: are you talking about trinkets?
21:36.38Silowyi!c us whisperwind sixlet
21:36.39ThraeBotSilowyi: sixlet is not the character you are looking for!
21:36.41genetik-that will happen when you swap the slots they use
21:36.44cncfanaticsCorey: reload ui & try again
21:36.48Silowyihmm
21:36.51Coreyahh
21:36.55Coreythat did it
21:37.03chiperany slots
21:37.14chiperhead piece, gloves, anything
21:37.22chiperand no, shift isnt on
21:37.46genetik-oh, i misread your problem
21:38.24genetik-it might be possible that another addon is taking precedence over closetgnome on your paperdoll frame
21:38.36genetik-if you only have closetgnome running, does it still do it?
21:39.30chiperI havent tried turning everything off to find out, but I dont think I have anything else that influences the paperdoll
21:39.57Coreythis mod rocks hehe
21:40.02cncfanaticsCorey: I'm wondering what is causing that bug :/
21:40.14chiperhmm, could trinketmenu do that?
21:40.19Coreyits probably i just updated
21:40.23chiperlet me try disabling it
21:41.20chiperyeah, it was trinketmenu
21:41.37bigzeroanyone notice that ClosetGnomeSwitcher doesn't properly switch gear back in combat? like my evocation set stays on after evocating
21:44.56chipercan closetgnome be setup to cast a spell when switching sets?
21:45.17chipernm, I'm a dumbass
21:46.07CIA-4803paene * r59068 10Cryolysis2/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:46.07CIA-48Cryolysis2:
21:46.07CIA-48- Finished new mount detection
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21:49.42Coreycncfanatics did the mage water thing ever get fixed?
21:49.54cncfanaticsCorey: long ago
21:50.18rubikThrae around/alive in here?
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21:51.03rubikThrae: i saw PerfectTargets commit 58840 but addon still errors out immediately with a dongle error so still unusable.. not sure where to report.
21:51.24Coreyawesome!
21:51.31Coreythen its perfect right lol
21:51.32chiperok.  I've got a set that swaps in a different ring, but it's not swapping it out when I switch to a different set.  do I have to set that ring for all sets?
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21:54.06Gnarfozargh
21:54.19GnarfozKael'thas's Mind Control is evil
21:54.48Ozgulidifference between buffalo and buffalo2?
21:54.49Coreydid you get per modifier settext? so it doesnt show when shift or ctrl is pushed or u can have a different one show then?
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21:56.07Paeneall the CHAT_MSG_* events are being replaced in 2.4 right?
21:56.16Paeneby the new combat log system that is
21:56.29Coreycncfanatics i have portals and teleports on the same bar with different modifiers thats why im askin
21:56.30Corey:D
21:56.46StanzillaOzguli: 1 works, 2 doesnt
21:56.52Ozgulireally?
21:56.53Ozgulik
22:00.43cncfanaticsCorey: not yet
22:01.44Pkekyo|oh fuck me sideways, I won't make this deadline either...I suck
22:02.59Osstiai have never been fucked sideways
22:05.33NightHawkTheSanehow much def does a druid need to be uncritable, 410? (assuming 3/3 survival of the fittest, ofc)
22:05.35Pkekyo|oh then you're in for a treat
22:05.42Pkekyo|yes
22:05.44Pkekyo|410
22:06.13Osstiauncrittable?  as in there is no way someone can crit you at all?
22:06.55rubik415
22:06.59rubikwith SotF
22:07.11rubik490 without
22:07.27NightHawkTheSaneOsstia: as in, impossible to be crit by raid bosses. :P
22:07.35ShirikNow, good luck becoming uncrushable as a druid tank
22:07.45rubikmeh.. we eat crushes like cookies
22:07.53genetik-nom nom nom
22:07.53ShirikActually the only way I think that's possible is if you are unhittable, right?
22:07.56rubika crush to a druid with 35k armor is jokes
22:08.17OzguliJesus saves and takes half damage!
22:08.18rubikto a druid with 20k HP and 35k armor*
22:08.26Chompersmaybe he means uncrushable
22:08.33OsstiaI think priests should get a jesus buff
22:08.35rubikdruids can't become uncrushable
22:08.36NightHawkTheSaneShirik: you'd have to stack +dodge, and -hit enough to push off crushes, so yeah, more or less unhittable
22:08.51nevcairieldruids just dont need to worry about getting uncrushable
22:08.56rubikexactly
22:08.59nevcairielthey just laugh about mini-crushes :P
22:09.01Shirikthey have it easy
22:09.25Shirikimo in wotlk, druids should get mail and shields
22:09.42nevcairielfor even more armor eh?
22:09.43Osstiabear paws can't hold shield
22:09.49Osstiaits unfathomable
22:09.57Ozgulithey can't hold a staff either
22:10.05OsstiaI would go for mail hockey helmets though
22:10.10rubikNightHawkTheSane: depends what current gear you have.. heavy clefthoof set (chest, legs, feets) gets you there
22:10.27Keiasdruids should get to ride a unicycle in bear form
22:10.34NightHawkTheSanerubik: er.. the full heavy clefthoof set does entirely? o_0 i have that and i'm pretty sure i'm not :P
22:10.35Keiasand wear party hats
22:11.00rubikIMO, for druids, it's better to mix in some resilience gear (and get some extra +agi to account for loss in +defense)
22:11.29NightHawkTheSaneyeah, but there's not a huge amount of pve resilience gear, and i loath pvp :)
22:11.41bigzero!c us spirestone tucker
22:11.53rubiktrue
22:12.03ThraeBotbigzero: Tucker, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/47/14). 16636 HP; 4970 Mana; 128 mana regen; 26523 Armour; 1090 AP; 145.900 Melee DPS; 25.94% melee crit; 3 melee hit; 153 defense; 31.93% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +26 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 856 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23u2n9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jcn3a ][ Updated: Mon Jan 21 17:19:56 2008 EST ]]
22:12.15bigzerouncrittable ^^^
22:12.37Ozgulilet's see...
22:12.45Ozguli!c eu ravenholdt hrthin
22:12.48ThraeBotOzguli: Hrthin, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 5641 HP; 8430 Mana; 311 mana regen; 138 mp5; 42 spell crit; 587 +spell dmg; 1426 +heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 372 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp9zqq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yo4y8 ][ Updated: Mon Jan 21 17:20:41 2008 EST ]]
22:12.53Ozguliand I'm supposed to heal gruul tomorrow
22:12.58bigzeroand that's the gear you can get pre raiding
22:13.23OzguliI seem to be unbuffed
22:13.30rubikNightHawkTheSane: 3 piece clefthoof gives 74 total def. rating.. you need 156 total rating but the rest is fairly easy with some gems and the shoulder/head enchants
22:13.45NightHawkTheSaneahh.. head enchant, thats what i was forgetting.
22:13.59Ellipsisanyone have the paths to the sound files that play while spamming spells?
22:14.08Ellipsis(to override them with empty ones)
22:14.17kergothfor that annoying error sound?
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22:14.51Ellipsisyeah
22:15.00kergothiirc the main one is Data/enUS/Sound/Spells/Fizzle/FizzleHolyA.wav
22:15.06kergothor so
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22:15.18Twist-is there any way to silence that?
22:15.19Ellipsisawesome, thanks
22:15.21rubikNightHawkTheSane: look into making a Necklace of the Deep too
22:15.25Kivinput a blank wav in it's path
22:15.33rubikmats are dirt cheap and it has 2 slots in which you can add def/sta gems
22:15.49rubikthis one: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32508
22:15.53kergothmy data dir has the blank wav for fizzle, the fishping beep for the fishing bobber noise, and a quieter gunshot sound
22:15.56kergothheh
22:16.13KivinI would very much like the gunshot sound one
22:16.18kergothits on wowi
22:16.22Kivinlink?
22:16.23Twist-I didn't think those sound paths pointed to individual files on disk
22:17.07NightHawkTheSanerubik: already have it, it's socketed with shifting nightseyes for now, as i'm using it for both dps and tanking
22:17.10kergothKivin, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7382-EarPlugs.html
22:17.12EllipsisTwist-: they don't unless you put the files there :P
22:17.16Kivinkergoth: thank you
22:17.28kergothnp
22:17.37NightHawkTheSanewas going to put solid stars in it when i picked up a better dps neck
22:17.40bigzNightHawkTheSane: if you look at tucker, and you don't want to do heroics, that's the best gear you can get. (the one ring from badges can be replaced by a second ring from durnholde, the bladefist breadth is actually supposed to be like a vengance trinket, and the belt would be maimal's cinch or w/e it's called)
22:18.04bigzi think that still puts you at uncrittable
22:18.17Twist-Ellipsis: so ka
22:18.36rubikNightHawkTheSane: nice. you're well on your way then.. :P yeah, just put in def/sta gems for now to get to uncritable to start off.. the Earthwarden helps a lot if you have CE exalted.
22:18.47EllipsisTwist-: ?
22:18.58Twist-"I see/understand"
22:19.02NightHawkTheSanerubik: working on it ;) he just dinged 70 yesterday ;)
22:19.06Twist-Ellipsis: thanks.
22:19.11NightHawkTheSanebigzero: looking at the profile now, thanks :)
22:19.11rubikcool
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22:19.24Ellipsisoh, kk :)
22:19.40KivinTwist-: Nipponjin desuka?
22:19.41NightHawkTheSanei had the heavy clefthoof set with solid stars and armor patches all waiting for him, the benefits of having a LW main ;)
22:19.44bigzeroNightHawkTheSane: have you seen the rawr application? it's pretty nice for figuring out your gear
22:19.54NightHawkTheSanebigzero: yeah, don't run windows though
22:20.00bigzerooh, :-(
22:20.10rubikhere's a druid in my guild that JUST started tanking karazhan (and got the cape off illhoof on his first run): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Bullzilla
22:20.41NightHawkTheSanei need to get a copy of it so i can dual boot, or at least run vmware
22:21.52bigzerorubik: how did he do on like prince?
22:22.03bigzeroi want to start tanking kara too, but idk if i can handle prince
22:22.09rubikoh.. he hasn't tanked prince yet.. gear not good enough yet
22:22.29bigzeroand what about holding agro? his ap seems kinda low
22:22.40bigzeronot that tucker's is that much better
22:22.51rubikhe's mostly off-tanking things since HP and dodge not high enough
22:22.56rubikbut aggro-wise, he does great
22:23.43rubikus bears just don't need too high of an AP to generate big aggro if you spam the good stuff (lacerate, lacerate, lacerate, mangle, repeat, etc.)
22:25.03rubikbut his AP looks very low because he's not logged out in bear form too
22:25.43bigzeroright, doh
22:26.06bigzerohmmm, I need to respec. forgot to spec for lacerate
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22:26.47rubikhere's my bear logged out in bear form with buffs (almost 2000 AP): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Orbu
22:27.08rubikbut almost all purple gear, yeah
22:27.22winkillerwho cares for AP in bear?
22:27.30nevcairielaggro generation cares :)
22:27.41rubiki don't.. was just saying it's not that important
22:27.52bigzerorubik, nice
22:28.38winkilleroh, US Kilrogg
22:28.49winkillerwas about to brag about my lvl 7 troll priest there ><
22:28.52rubikyeah.. crappy server
22:28.55rubikhehe
22:29.20rubikwelcome to the server with 2 hour AV queues on AV weekend
22:29.31rubikthis whole battlegroup is a joke
22:29.47Kivinstormstrike?
22:30.00rubikclose.. US Bloodlust
22:30.24winkillerok, hand over your chest and legs now, rubik *threatens*
22:31.12rubikhaha.. just got them.. welfare arena epics ftw.. 300-350 arena pts per week from 5v5 with a bunch of pvp noobs (sub-1500 rating)
22:31.30winkilleryeah. haven't had a team for ages
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22:31.48winkillerwesnesday after next wednesday = new chest
22:32.40rubiknice
22:33.02rubikS3 feral chest is awesome
22:33.12winkillerhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=aggramar&n=banathor
22:33.18winkillerpvp equip atm I guess
22:35.17rubiknice gear
22:35.53rubikwe just suck in pvp as feral spec.. i'm lucky that my team doesn't care to have me.. in 5v5 it's not too bad.. we're sort of useful.. but 2v2/3v3.. ugh
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22:36.40winkillerI got my last arena points with aholy pally
22:36.53winkillercat -> stun -> bear -> mangle spam
22:38.06winkillerlamest tactic ever, but more wins than losses :)
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22:46.15LightfazAnyone know of any compatibility issues between Auctioneer and ClearFont2?
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22:47.47PrimerSo some of my guildies are telling me I should pick up tailoring and craft my healing set on my priest. But I'm wondering, shouldn't I be able to get good gear from heroics/kara/ZA? I know my raid will be willing to take me even if I'm in all-blues
22:48.48PrimerI already have tailoring on my lock...I'd rather not have the same professions on two of my toons
22:49.38alcarasyou will get fine gear from heroics/kara/za
22:49.39Ellipsisare there any addons to dynamically adjust combat log range in party/instance/etc. that don't depend on a core?
22:49.44alcarasmooncloth set is nothing like fsw
22:50.37NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: if you find one, let me know. :P
22:50.41Ellipsissigh
22:50.47Ellipsisthat's what I was afraid of
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22:50.59Ellipsisyou people like to make life difficult, don't you?
22:51.19Primeralcaras: that's what it seemed like to me
22:51.49NightHawkTheSanei do, indeed :)
22:52.02LightfazAnyone know of any compatibility issues between Auctioneer and ClearFont2? My auctioneer tooltips are double the font size of the normal font
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22:56.08Pkekyo|oh hai Ellipsis
22:56.21Pkekyo|weren't you going awol for liek evarr?
22:56.29Ellipsisnoes
22:56.40Ellipsisckknight and I has internets in our hotel
22:56.51Pkekyo|awmagawd luxury
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22:56.54ckknightlol
22:56.56ckknightyea
22:57.01ckknightit's nice, all in all
22:57.17Pkekyo|I think I just flunked mediaproduction :)
22:58.38Pkekyo|so much for making an effort the last four months of my education
23:00.59Pkekyo|"You're like 'the little engine that could', of screwing yourself"
23:01.05Ellipsiso.O
23:04.58Pkekyo|where is wisconsin compared to new york?
23:05.25bigzerowest
23:05.28*** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host190-125-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
23:05.36bigzerolike half way across the us
23:05.38Pkekyo|far?
23:05.39Pkekyo|oh
23:05.41NightHawkTheSanelook it up, jesus, its not as if maps are far away
23:05.43NightHawkTheSaneer, hard to find
23:05.50bigzerolol
23:05.56NightHawkTheSanedon't be such a lazy idiot.
23:06.05Pkekyo|why not?
23:06.12NightHawkTheSanebecause it makes you a lazy fucking idiot./
23:06.13Pkekyo|go bloody google yourself
23:07.05jscinozis it just me or is wow a huge resource hog.
23:07.08Pkekyo|disclaimer: I didn't do it
23:07.20Pkekyo|jscinoz: it's you...you suck, and your computer sucks :)
23:07.44jscinozso when i can run something like HL2, max settings 45fps, yet wow with no addons, at min settings runs at 15fps thats my fault?
23:07.51jscinozi call unoptimised engine.
23:07.52jscinoz:P
23:08.16Pkekyo|HL2 isn't that resource heavy tbh
23:08.38jscinozgraphically it's much more
23:08.56jscinozwhat it almost seems to me is that wow is using software rendering for the majority of things on screen
23:08.56Arrowmasterother things effect fps
23:08.57Pkekyo|thank you, captain obvious? :p
23:09.21jscinozsince when it runs cpu usage is at 100% of both cores, and gpu, well i cant see the usage, but it only rises 1C above idle
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23:09.52Ellipsisjscinoz: what kind of fail card are you using to get 15fps?
23:10.05jscinoz8700 GT >_<
23:10.06Pkekyo|I'm running wow at 0.25fps stable :p
23:10.17jscinozi dont think my card is fail kthnx :P
23:10.21Ellipsis...
23:10.29Ellipsisyou should be getting way more than 45fps in source games
23:10.36Ellipsisand definitely more than 15 in WoW
23:10.41jscinozwow runs ~15fps regardless of min settings, max settings
23:10.45charonjscinoz: OS?
23:10.49KazieAre there a bug in Omen?
23:10.57jscinozheres the clincher :P
23:11.05Ellipsisjscinoz: you broke it
23:11.05jscinozrunning source games and wow under wine on ubuntu 7.10 :P
23:11.06Pkekyo|Kazie: it's an addon - most likely!
23:11.10jscinoz:D
23:11.12charonjscinoz: on a core2 right
23:11.15jscinozaye
23:11.25KazieJust that.. i've been trying for so long now to make it show only when i'm in a party.. but it doesn't work :s
23:11.28charonso either you have an ATI card in which case you're screwed, their drivers suck
23:11.32Kazieeither it's there all the time.. or it's not there at all:S
23:11.44charonor you could try setting the cpu stepping all the way up to maximum before you start WoW
23:11.58Pkekyo|Kazie: you fail, it's not a common bug :)
23:12.00charoni had this weird issue where it would get stuck halfway between min and max
23:12.04charonand thus be CPU limited
23:12.22charonsetting the governor to "performance" before starting fixes that
23:12.28KaziePkekyo|: If i fail.. help me ^^
23:12.52KaziePkekyo|: "Always show Omen" is unchecked, "Show when solo" is unchecked" what else can i do then? :o
23:12.55Pkekyo|Kazie: why? :p
23:13.05jscinozwhat does wow do thats so cpu intensive, shouldnt the majority of the load be on the gpu?
23:13.07charonjscinoz: either way, you might want to watch the current frequency closely if you run it on "ondemand"
23:13.14Pkekyo|no idea how to fix it...no idea how you broke it...I just know it works for me and I haven't heard about that bug before
23:13.28Pkekyo|jscinoz: wow hardly has graphics at all :p
23:13.30charonjscinoz: no idea frankly, but you don't run a game to save power do you?
23:13.42jscinozi run a game to play at acceptable framerates :P
23:13.58jscinozand since it seems to be using software rendering for some unknown reason, framerate = fail
23:14.05jscinozwas fine pre 2.3 btw
23:14.30Pkekyo|jscinoz: I'm running at 0.25 fps stable...stop bitching :p
23:14.59charonjscinoz: i doubt you'd see 15fps with software rendering except perhaps on 320x240
23:15.38jscinozi thought that too, but as i said, 100% usage of both cores, gpu only 1degree C above idle.. cpu is doing work the gpu should be doing.
23:15.51Arrowmasterwow has always been a cpu hog
23:15.54charonso did you check if the stepping is working fine?
23:15.57NeoTronjscinoz: so you haqve a broken addon most likely
23:16.17NeoTronfor example I had a problem wheer minimapbuttonbag for some reason caused my frame rate to drop to about 0.1
23:16.35NeoTronthe lua-code execution can worst case use all available CPU
23:16.41jscinozneontron, same framerate without wtf/interface/cache as with it
23:16.49jscinozand same framerate regardless of resolution or graphic detail settings
23:16.52ShirikWho maintains bigwigs?
23:17.00StanzillaFunkeh`
23:17.09ShirikFunkeh`: ping
23:17.12Arrowmasterbtw 2.3.0 was when wow started using more than one cpu, if thats when the problem started try setting your Config.wtf to only use 1 cpu
23:17.24Funkeh`Shirik, pong
23:17.25Arrowmasterits probably a problem with wine and multicore
23:17.35ShirikFunkeh`: That little auto-response thing in whispers
23:17.43ShirikCan we perhaps not have it occur to people that are in the raid?
23:17.47NeoTronI saw no benefit from the supposed "multicore" fix
23:18.01NeoTronI guess it is for intel only or something (why that can be I don't understand)...
23:18.15Funkeh`Shirik, what auto response
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23:18.19jscinozdidn't they have an official linux binary back in beta.
23:18.23NeoTronno
23:18.26NeoTronbut they had it in alpha
23:18.30jscinoz:P
23:18.37Pkekyo|stop being so goddamn pregnatn!
23:18.39NeoTronat the time of the closed beta it was discontinued
23:18.40jscinozwhy'd they stop it? too hard to maintain?
23:18.44ShirikMm, it said something like "Ugrathak is currently in a fight" blah blah
23:18.49NeoTronjscinoz: political decision
23:19.01jscinozany more detail on that?
23:19.01NightHawkTheSaneprobably support issues as well, i imagine
23:19.03ShirikMaybe it was something else, but I thought I recognized the prefix as coming from big wigs
23:19.05ArrowmasterShirik: thats not bigwigs....
23:19.12NeoTronwould it surprise you to know that internally there were a starcraft version that is ported to Linux?
23:19.21ArrowmasterShirik: might be BossWhisper
23:19.23ShirikI'll have to ask him wtf he was using then
23:19.43Shirikok then sorry :)
23:19.47Shirikgo back to sleep or whatever you were doing
23:19.51alcarasanyone know how to stop getting removed from channels when i disconnect?
23:19.53NeoTronbasically the reason is Blizzard don't want to support a Linux version of the game
23:20.05alcarase.g. i join a private channel /join foobar and if i DC, then i have to rejoin manually
23:20.08jscinozhonestly since the game can already use opengl, a linux port wouldnt be too hard :P
23:20.14NeoTronand refuse entirely to let a third party support it or relase it without support (because inadvertedly they would get linux support questions)
23:20.25Shirikjscinoz: A linux port isn't hard at all
23:20.28NightHawkTheSanealcaras: log in, join the channel, then logout/exit normally.
23:20.32Shirikwine ./wow.exe
23:20.36Shiriker, sorry
23:20.39Shirikwine ./wow.exe -opengl
23:20.45jscinozalready do that
23:20.54NeoTronShirik: willing to die in hell for that blasphemous comment?
23:20.55NightHawkTheSanealcaras: its probably an issue with saving the settings on a disconnect, so logging out normally might work
23:21.05ShirikNeoTron: Blasphemous?
23:21.10NeoTronthat is not a port
23:21.14ShirikI know :P
23:21.20ShirikBut it works
23:21.21alcarasNightHawkTheSane: i don't always have a choice when i disconnect
23:21.21NightHawkTheSaneno, a port is a wine made in portugal
23:21.32jscinoz<PROTECTED>
23:21.35alcarasand i've logged in, joined, and logouted normally
23:21.45charonjscinoz: so did you just decide to ignore me, or did you actually try and it turned out not to be a problem?
23:21.53ShirikI don't really see the reason for Blizzard to go out and make appropriate changes to work in Linux
23:22.02NightHawkTheSanealcaras: and it still removes you from teh channel if you disconnect later? hmm :\
23:22.02Shiriksurely you can't expect them to just run the code through gcc and it'll work
23:22.06NeoTronanyhow, the Linux version was discontinued because the guy writing it was told to stop and the servers were also hardcoded to deny requests coming from the linux client to prevent of-hours hacking on it
23:22.32alcarasNightHawkTheSane: yah
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23:22.32CIA-48- zhCN update
23:22.35alcarashappens to a lot of people afaik
23:22.47NightHawkTheSanealcaras: no idea then. i haven't seen that happen. :\
23:22.58NeoTronShirik: since it already existed, the hard part is not making it run in Linux. It's solely a question about supporting it
23:23.10ShirikThat still takes manpower :)
23:23.16NeoTronremember, the servers run Linux, MacOS is a unix with opengl
23:23.24NeoTronit is pretty much as simple as running gcc
23:23.38NeoTronShirik: one person did it on his spare time... spare time at a game company in semi-crunch mode
23:23.40ShirikYou cannot tell me that code written for MacOS will work in Linux off the bat
23:23.48Shirikit will need changes, hell even java code needs changes
23:23.55Shirik(depending on the complexity of the project)
23:24.08NeoTronare you reading what I'm saying?
23:24.14Primerfor the most part, well written unix code will Just Work™
23:24.16ShirikSure
23:24.17NeoTronof course it's not just as simple as make on Linux
23:24.22Primeracross several platforms
23:24.23NeoTronbut it RAN on linux, with an SDL backend
23:24.26NeoTronSDL/OpenGL
23:24.29Shirik14(1811:2311:0814) 14(1115NeoTron14) it is pretty much as simple as running gcc
23:24.34ShirikI'm disputing that statement
23:24.38NeoTron"pretty much"
23:24.41Primerit depends on the libraries
23:24.49Primeropengl on Linux is the same as opengl on macosx
23:25.06NeoTronthat means you need to do a bit of work but not more than what was already done
23:25.18potemkinits possible to createframes while in combat right?
23:25.27Ellipsisyeah, just not secure ones
23:25.28ShirikYes
23:25.30Shiriknot secure ones
23:25.31NeoTronbasically just plug SDL in to replace whatever is used for windows/macos
23:25.32potemkinkk
23:25.49ShirikYou can do whatever the hell you want with insecure frames
23:25.54NeoTronI was added to the alpha as a Linux tester - abotu 1 of 20 or so
23:25.56PrimerHaving an opengl renderer means most of the hard work's already done
23:26.11NeoTronit was so secret we couldn't even talk to the other alpha testers about it
23:26.29NeoTronbut seeing how it was 4 years ago I think it's safe (and no longer a secret either)
23:27.00Primerspeaking of WoW in wine, I'm still not able to get everything to render in it
23:27.09PrimerI'll be walking around shat...all by myself...
23:27.16dodgalawl nice spam on the forums
23:27.47dodgaHm there's no way to report a post on the wowace forums?
23:28.00Ellipsisclick "report to moderator"?
23:28.07dodgaah
23:28.11dodgaHidden very well
23:28.22Ellipsisdepends on your theme I suppose
23:28.33dodgameh, post already gone
23:29.14CIA-4803grum 07Ace3 * r59073 10Routes/Routes.toc: Routes: Cartographer_Notes in optdep so Cartographer:HasModule("Notes") will return true when we ask it.
23:30.16PrimerI know I've asked this once before, but perhaps things have changed recently: Is there still no way to obtain pitch, heading, and altitude information?
23:30.59PolarinaPrimer: Heading and pitch, yes. Altitude, partially.
23:31.02PrimerI'd love to see a flight HUD addon with waypoints
23:31.11LightfazAnyone know of any compatibility issues between Auctioneer and ClearFont2? My auctioneer tooltips are double the font size of the normal font
23:31.13Primerand headings to bookmarks
23:31.51PrimerPolarina: can you point me towards some code?
23:32.18PolarinaPrimer: http://www.google.com/ would be the only source I can provide as of now. Sorry.
23:32.28PrimerPolarina: heh
23:32.57charonPrimer: carto does some basic waypoints, have you looked at that?
23:33.18Primercharon: I'm interested in flight headings
23:33.41Primeras in "from here, mount your flyer, go to X elevation, set heading to 270°, and go"
23:33.47cladhaireif you're asking from z coordinate, we can't obtain it.
23:33.51cladhaires/from/for/
23:34.01PolarinaPrimer: You can get pitch and heading, but not altitude without lots of guessworking.
23:34.04Primerand you do a beeline from shat to cosmo
23:34.14charonas i said, it does some waypoints, and a little arrow that points in the right direction, so i assume it must have a way of knowing where you're headed to work out that arrow
23:34.26Primerpitch and heading would suffice
23:34.26cladhaireit can do headings, as has already been stated
23:34.34cladhairebut elevation cannot be determined
23:35.02Xinhuanthe game API only tells us (X, Y) which is only obtainable from GetPlayerMapPosition(unit) and ONLY if you are not in an instance, and looking at a map which you will show on it
23:35.16PrimerI guess you'd just have to go Really High™ to clear any obstacles
23:35.30PolarinaPrimer: That won't work all the time.
23:35.38Xinhuanfor eg, if you are in mulgore, and you look at the barrens map, that function may return (0, 0) if you aren't visible, or a pair of valid values if you are visible
23:35.56Xinhuanand that's all we have for determining your current position
23:36.01PolarinaPrimer: There are obstacles on some places, and you can't get high enough to fly above them.
23:36.01Arrowmasterand heading is determined by getting the rotation of either the arrow on the minimap or the minimap itself depending on which mode its in
23:36.41Primerwell, as long as you can get heading where you are, you should be fine
23:37.11Xinhuanthere is no way of getting altitude without guesswork -- which involves setting the current height as 0, and flying at 60% fly speed to obtain the X,Y delta -- and note this only works flying, as running speed delta is constant no matter how steep the slope is
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23:37.25PrimerI imagine this: I'm standing in shat, and I want to fly to cosmo. I mount, go straight up, and, knowing cosmo is at heading 42°, I point my flyer to 42, pitch 0, and off I go
23:37.25Xinhuanon the x-y plane
23:37.47Arrowmasteroh and before calling SetMapToCurrentZone() (or whatever that function is) always check if the worldmap is open first and only call it if it isnt
23:37.54cladhaireyou can already do this with static waypoints, without needing to know the numbers
23:38.03cladhairewith a sufficiently high slope, you clear obstacles, and arrive
23:38.10cladhaireyou can even alarm when you're "there" based on distance.
23:38.13cladhairecart_waypoints
23:38.14cladhairetomtom, etc.
23:38.15PrimerI do that by sight, yes
23:38.24cladhairewell it can't be automated
23:38.28PrimerI'd like to see a hud though :)
23:38.32cladhaireand if there's a waypoint that knows, you can code it to tell you exactly
23:38.35Primerno, I'm not talking about automation
23:38.45PrimerI'm talking about a visual hud
23:38.48cladhairethen display it
23:38.51cladhaireusing the information already obtained
23:38.56cladhaireI suppose that's where I'm getting confused
23:38.57Primerwhere you see the point in the HUD
23:39.06cladhaireI am not in your brain
23:39.07Primerso, going back to standing in shat
23:39.10cladhairethat needs to be said first off
23:39.23cladhaireso I can't picture whatever you are, I'm simply stating.. the informatino is already available
23:39.35cladhaireat a crude level, you just need to harness it into whatever visual display you want
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23:39.50PrimerI'm standing in shat, I mount up, fly straight up, pull up the HUD, and look around. I then see points as I rotate on the X axis
23:40.08PrimerI can then simply point my flyer in that direction and go
23:40.16cladhaireso write the code that does it
23:40.18cladhaireits not difficult
23:40.19Primeras long as I'm high enough, i fly over everything
23:40.23Primerthat's the plan ;)
23:40.42cladhairealrighty then
23:40.57si-m1didn't someone already do that for the gatherer nodes?
23:41.10Primerguess I'll start looking at cartographer
23:42.03cladhairesi-m1: yep, close to it.
23:42.12cladhairePrimer: you don't want cartographer as a whole, you want the waypoints module
23:42.16cladhaireor astrolabe
23:42.20Primercladhaire: ok, thanks
23:42.23Arrowmasterits mixed into cartographer core, cartographer_notes and cartographer_waypoints
23:42.29cladhairehell, astrolabe is probably the easiest way to do it
23:42.52cladhairebrb rebooting
23:43.59si-m1http://youtube.com/watch?v=8efcDxypVbY
23:44.08si-m1this was the one I was thinking of
23:44.41Grumif you just want the arrowthingie you could also use Tomtom i think
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23:45.15Primersi-m1: I was thinking more along the lines of a true airplane HUD
23:45.23si-m1ah ok
23:45.34ulichttp://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=902
23:46.02PrimerI saw a picture someone had PS'd together but I can't find it now
23:46.39Primerthis demo looks pretty cool though
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23:50.40Grummmmm
23:50.45Grumyou could calculate pitch btw
23:51.07Grumyou know what mount you are on and which trinkets you have
23:51.22Grumso you know your 'speed arrow'
23:51.41Grumif you fly up, the speed remains the same but the speed on the ground is different
23:51.51Grumas part of your vector points up or down
23:51.53Arrowmasteryou cant determine elevation
23:52.06Grumno, but you can get delta elevation
23:52.16Arrowmasterwhich isnt very useful
23:52.29Arrowmasterespecially since you cant tell if your going up or down
23:52.37Grumyeah that .. kinda sucks :P
23:53.37Grumah well, we have more info now! =D
23:54.50CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59074 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Auto show/hide now works
23:55.31NeoTronso what is it with women being so prone to fits and drama ?
23:56.08NeoTronI remember seeing a recruitment post specifically asking for males only and with very few exceptions in the past year of my guild, it is a sane requirement
23:56.52Primerit's in their nature
23:57.19GnarfozNeoTron: that post itself was quite legendary, in terms of drama
23:57.21Primerthis morning my wife remembered she was mad at me for something I did on Saturday, so she felt that it was ok to wake me up to bitch at me
23:57.50Primereven though she was friendly towards me on Sunday
23:58.16PrimerI think it should be a rule that, if you're angry at someone over something, then get over it, you can't be angry at them again for the same incident
23:58.23Primerkinda like double jeopardy

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