IRC log for #wowace on 20080120

00:00.02Pkekyo|screw you zariel, I was first :p
00:00.05zarieli liked atropine when playing my rogue
00:00.50Reclusei think normal notepad would show them in the "status" bar if turned on? been a while since i used that tho - i use notepad++
00:00.51zariel:P
00:00.51zarielVIm for the win
00:08.10RecluseXD
00:08.21Pkekyo|doubt I'll ever use any of them
00:08.23Pkekyo|might come in handy though
00:09.19Pkekyo|maybe I could sell them
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00:09.19Pkekyo|O.o
00:11.30YazilliclickHey All, with AceDB  what would be the syntax to create a namespace(?) that's a dynamic name? such as self.db.account.items.[itemxxxx] ?  Or is there a better way to handle things like that?
00:11.36CIA-803javek * r58921 10DKPmon/ (. main.lua):
00:11.37CIA-8DKPmon:
00:11.37CIA-8Left-Clicking icon shows loot window if bidding open, otherwise shows Point Award Window
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00:12.05Pkekyo|http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/01223_alittlemotivation_1680x1050.jpg really NEED this wallpaper
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00:15.55CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58922 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Add working :DrawWorldmapLines()
00:19.22CIA-803javek * r58923 10Bidder/ (. Looting/lootitem.lua main.lua):
00:19.22CIA-8Bidder:
00:19.22CIA-8-Left-clicking icon shows bidding window if biddings is open, otherwise show's dkp
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00:29.33Modulo216anyone here use Fubar_TopScoreFu I just installed it and i'm getting nothing at all.  It's loading but not getting any of my scores
00:29.38Modulo216am i missing something?
00:30.03Pkekyo|I've found it to be complete and utter shit since patch 2.2.something
00:30.32Modulo216dammit i need to find something to keep track of my top scores
00:31.24Pkekyo|why? :)
00:31.29Pkekyo|e-peen problems?
00:31.38Modulo216lol
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00:31.57Modulo216i'm very vain
00:32.19Pkekyo|can't get your e-peen up?
00:32.27Pkekyo|that must suck
00:32.58Pkekyo|:p
00:33.11Ellipsisthey have meds for that, you know
00:33.22Pkekyo|e-peenagra?
00:33.33Modulo216lol
00:33.55Ellipsisyes, it's quite expensive but you can pay an alchemist to provide you with the necessary goops and pills to keep yourself fully buffed even in the simplest of 5mans
00:34.37Modulo216someone recommend me a good top score addon, i'm feeling very inferior here!
00:34.59Ellipsisin fact, you could probably do the same solo...but I don't know why you'd bother
00:35.01Pkekyo|this is too good
00:35.08Pkekyo|either that, or I've slept way too little
00:35.14EllipsisI'm going with the latter
00:35.25Pkekyo|I agree
00:35.28Reclusewhat's this "sleep" you speak of?
00:35.41Pkekyo|overrated, I tell you! OVERRATED IT IS!
00:35.42Modulo216i must concur with the like
00:37.35ArrowmasterPkekyo|: any problems youve had with topscorefu you can blame on the asshat that commited the change that completely fucked it up
00:38.00Modulo216yeah fuck that dude
00:38.10Modulo216someone roll it back i need it!
00:38.17Arrowmasteri already did
00:38.22Arrowmastera while back
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00:39.21Modulo216humm it's 9 hours since last change, but i'm still not getting aything
00:39.33Arrowmasterreset the db
00:39.39HotFO-blamaDoes anyone know how to offest the buffs in Pitbull and change thier size?
00:40.31zarielright my face hurts, tell me why this doesnt work please :E, http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/Fien_Crit/crit.lua
00:42.43zarieldriving me mad
00:43.12Arrowmasteri would but for some reason i agreed to do kara
00:43.13ReclusePkekyo|: http://xkcd.com/320/
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00:44.23Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: what asshat did what?
00:44.39Pkekyo|meh, I need to wear pants with less pockets...I just found four packs of gum in four separate pockets >.<
00:44.45Arrowmastermade an uneeded change that completely broke filtering
00:45.21CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58924 10Routes/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Add dummy options table and register it with AceConfigRegistry-3.0 and AceConfigDialog-3.0
00:45.24Pkekyo|rofl Recluse
00:45.31HotFO-blamaDoes anyone know how to offest the buffs in Pitbull and change thier size?
00:45.49Pkekyo|for me, topscorefu haven't been registering new records (well, it registers them, but does not save them) for ages
00:46.12Arrowmasterit doesnt save?
00:46.15Arrowmasterwtf
00:46.23Arrowmastersure its not pvp vs pve records?
00:46.29Modulo216yeah it's working goofy for me as well, i just rolled a character and it is only saving sometimes
00:46.45Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: I haven't seen it save anything at all for months tbh...
00:46.55Modulo216it missed 3 attacks and registered the 4th for some reason
00:46.56Arrowmastermines been working perfectly
00:46.57HotFO-blamamine does all the time
00:47.18Modulo216try rolling a new character
00:47.47Pkekyo|did that...it saves the first records for every new ability, but then stops saving anything
00:48.04Modulo216it's skipping new abilities for me
00:48.16HotFO-blamaDoes anyone know how to offest the buffs in Pitbull and change thier size?
00:48.36Pkekyo|HotFO-blama: ckknight knows
00:48.36Arrowmasterill have to look at it then, been wanting to make some major changes to it anyway
00:49.14Pkekyo|it confused me so much I just can't be arsed anymore
00:49.29RecluseHotFO-blama: pitbuff buff frames drove me nuts so i turned em all off and use EBB now lol
00:49.38HotFO-blamaEBB?
00:49.49Reclusepitbuff eh? lol man no sleep is bad
00:50.00RecluseEBB->Elkano's Buff Bars
00:50.29Pkekyo|correction: EBB = Elkano's Buff Bar...  EBBs = Elkanos Buff Bars...best version :p
00:50.37Pkekyo|or has he stopped operating with two?
00:50.43StanzillaHotFO-blama: use PitBull_AltAura
00:50.51Reclusethere's two? o.O
00:50.59HotFO-blamaUgh, I turned that off because I thought I didn't need it
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00:51.30Pkekyo|Recluse: used to be atleast... EBB has pretty much no options, EBBs has laods
00:51.59Recluseah, i have the one with a ton of options
00:52.01StanzillaHotFO-blama: disable Aura and enable AltAura
00:52.11Pkekyo|that'd be EBBs :)
00:52.45HotFO-blamaThanks, I'm messing with them now. Also, does anyone know of an alternative to this mod? http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/
00:52.48HotFO-blamaQuestHelper
00:53.21Recluselightheaded maybe?
00:53.24JoshBorkenope
00:53.27JoshBorkeit's pretty unique
00:53.31JoshBorkeyou could check out Carbonite
00:53.32Recluseah
00:53.35Pkekyo|HotFO-blama: what does it do?
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00:54.07HotFO-blamaIt has the locations for all the quests in the game and it calculates what route you should take to get them done the fastest
00:54.17Recluseah
00:54.23Chomperstried tourguide?
00:54.37Reclusedoes sound like tourguide, but with more details
00:55.02HotFO-blamaI cant find any of those in the updater...
00:55.09JoshBorkenone of those are Ace
00:55.10steinoConnection to master server failed.
00:55.10steinoAdministrators have been notified.
00:55.23Chompershttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/downloads/detail?name=TourGuide-2.3.2.8.zip&can=2&q=
00:55.28Chompersthink thats the right link
00:56.52Reclusei wrote some horde 55-70 guides for it, but i don't have whatever he uses for user submissions, 'Git' or something
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01:12.19HotFO-blamaIs there any way to get Buffalo to work for target?
01:12.40NightHawkTheSanebuffalo only tracks player buffs/debuffs.
01:13.01HotFO-blamawhy... its the best thing ever
01:15.56CIA-803grayhoof 072.0 * r58925 10Proximo/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
01:15.57CIA-8Proximo:
01:15.57CIA-8- Added optional Race Icon
01:15.57CIA-8- Added per session talent caching
01:15.57CIA-8- Cleaned up options a lot
01:15.57CIA-8- Added Race, Sex, Server to syncs
01:16.18Pkekyo|why?
01:16.58kebinusanbleh I wish my frame rate wasnt such ass in wow under wine, I might have to reinstall xp to see how much better it is
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01:18.39Pkekyo|kebinusan: what framerate do you have?
01:18.39Pkekyo|I run at 8-11 :p
01:18.39kebinusanI get about 20fps in shat
01:18.39Pkekyo|I run at 8-11 anywhere :p
01:18.39kebinusanpretty much regardless of what resolution Im playing at, Ive tried from 1600x1200 down to 1280x960 and they all seem similar
01:19.52kebinusangotta be something Im missing even disabling compiz didnt seem to make much of a difference
01:19.53Pkekyo|when I increased the resolution to 1680x1050 my framerate dropped from 40-50 to 8-11 :p
01:20.27Pkekyo|playing on 800x600 on a 22" panel just isn't gonna fly though :>
01:20.33ThraeYeah, 2560x1600 at max settings isn't really that impressive. In fact, I can really see the low-grade quality of the textures and models themselves. It's like playing Morrowind.
01:20.50Pkekyo|rofl
01:20.56JoshBorke...
01:20.59ThraePkekyo|: Draw distance is the biggest factor in performance I've found.
01:21.18Pkekyo|really?
01:21.20ThraeAlso known as "Terrain Distance"
01:21.23kebinusanYeah Ive been playing with recording videos this week and screwing with alot of settings trying to get af ew more fps
01:21.38Thraekebinusan: I increased my FPS a good bit with tweaked Nvidia drivers
01:21.39kebinusanyeah terrain distance is huge, and you dont notice much of a difference between 50% and full
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01:21.57JoshBorkekebinusan: i get about 50+ more FPS in windows XP than I do in wine
01:23.03kebinusanyeah Im afraid to reinstall and see that big of a difference
01:23.09ThraeJoshBorke: Do you run the WoW shortcut in OpenGL mode? I'm not sure if Wine automatically runs WoW in OpenGL mode. Otherwise, you're running DirectX overtop of OpenGL.
01:23.25JoshBorkethrae: opengl mode in wine, directx in windows
01:23.38ThraeWell I should say, the DirectX API being translated into OpenGL
01:24.29ThraeJoshBorke: What about OpenGL mode in Windows? Compared those two?
01:24.48JoshBorkethrae:  no, but i recall that OpenGL was horrible in windows
01:25.35ThraeJoshBorke: Really it's not about Windows. OpenGL and DirectX both go beneath Windows -- they access hardware directly. It's mainly about the drivers compatibility and how the program utilizes the two graphics APIs.
01:26.06JoshBorkei'm not too concerned about it, it's still playable in linux, i just can't raid
01:26.14JoshBorkeso i switch to windows to raid
01:26.40ThraeOf course running through Wine there's also other Windows-specific things to deal with, but if a game has an OpenGL mode, it shouldn't run horribly under Wine unless it also runs horribly under Windows
01:27.05Thrae(in OpenGL Mode)
01:27.17JoshBorkeif i remember correctly they are comparable
01:27.24ThraeJoshBorke: Well, for Wine, you could try different driver versions
01:27.25JoshBorkebut i'll double check tuesday
01:27.28Pkekyo|how to get wow to run under OpenGL in windows?
01:27.38JoshBorkejust add -opengl to the shortcut
01:27.48ThraePkekyo|: Same as under Wine -- use "-opengl" (without the quotes) to the end of the shortcut
01:27.50JoshBorkeor set gxApi to "OpenGL"
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01:27.53Pkekyo|I don't use a shortcut >.<
01:27.56ThraeThat too
01:28.07JoshBorkenot sure if it is case sensitive
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01:28.46kebinusandoes runnign dual head cause a big performance dip? Ive been thinking of making a metamode to disable my second display I can use when raiding
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01:30.14Cryectnot unless you span your 3d app across them
01:31.01Thraekebinusan: Yes it will effect performance on any OS, since the GPU and memory are being shared between the two displays. It's better to buy a second cheapo PCI-E / PCI graphics card and put your display on that.
01:31.22CryectIts not a big performance hit though
01:31.24JoshBorkeoh that's bizarro
01:32.30Thraekebinusan: Unfortunately, one thing I don't like about X vs Windows is that most drivers can handle multiple graphics cards with multiple monitors without it going into a software mode, like X does with Xinerama
01:32.33JoshBorkei can run 3 instances of wow and get about 25 fps in each instance at the same time in windows
01:33.13JoshBorkeyet i can barely run 2 wow at the same time in linux :(
01:33.44ThraeJoshBorke: That's different then multiple monitors -- there is a minimum limit on how much each active display port gets
01:33.53ThraeThat minimum isn't shared
01:34.29ThraeWell, I mean it's not sharable with the other active port -- they both have some exclusive access to resources
01:34.30kebinusanyeah lemme fiddle with my x conf and see how it performs on a single display
01:34.47Thraekebinusan: When you said "DualHead", you didn't mean Xinerama, right?
01:34.52kebinusantwinview
01:35.08ThraeOK, yeah, that's fine. Xinerama disables DRI which will kill your performance.
01:35.50ThraeMost drivers on Windows, especially Nvidia and ATI, can do DRI with multiple video cards, unlike X
01:36.01ThraeThat's not a fault of X though, that's a fault of Nvidia and ATI
01:36.55kebinusanyeah its just weird I see almost no performance gain from disabling compiz or switching resolutions
01:37.51snorks
01:37.53snorks-quit
01:38.11kebinusanbrb
01:38.47ThraeBlizzard: "Really, the only reason we support Macs in the first place for WoW is because of slouken. He's just too cool. We will never support Linux. They're way too needy and will want access to our code and will probably hack our servers."
01:38.59JoshBorkelol
01:39.27ThraeBlizzard: "We do, however, have plans to support Solaris 8. Just to say 'fuck you' to the Linux community."
01:41.15NightHawkTheSaneoh man, now i can put my sgi machine to good use... er.. wait.. >.>
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01:43.50XinhuanNargiddley, ping
01:46.35Pkekyo|I have way too few DVD box sets
01:47.07Xinhuanso
01:47.09Xinhuanhttp://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp6.jpg
01:47.15Xinhuanthe config looks "kind of crap"
01:47.22Xinhuanwhen you can't control the layout directly
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01:47.38Pkekyo|rofl
01:47.51JoshBorkeyea
01:47.55Pkekyo|holy shit, how do you get that without rock config?! O.o
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01:48.06Xinhuanwhat can i do about it? o_O
01:48.06StanzillaAce3
01:48.46JoshBorkeXinhuan: post on jira to get a custom layout option that you can feed to AceConfigDialog
01:48.55JoshBorkeand give me your gold
01:49.06CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58926 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Commit semi-working crap-looking aceopttable configs for routes
01:49.30NightHawkTheSaneyou should charge Xinhuan a 1k gold fee for fixing his jira issues ;)
01:49.34JoshBorkeXinhuan: how will routes operate?
01:49.39Brunershmm, prat keeps acting up on me
01:49.45JoshBorkestandalone from all mods?
01:49.51Xinhuanit will operate exactly like how Carto_routes will work
01:50.03Xinhuanexcept its standalone, not dependant on any gathering mod or map mod
01:50.10Brunersmaking stuff links when its not and including servername on whispers
01:50.30JoshBorkeso there will be modules to properly format the node tables for it?  i'm just curious
01:50.31Xinhuanof course, cut and pasting a route from carto, makes the new coord system i'm using cry
01:50.37NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: does it not require ANY gatherer-esque mod, or just not require a specific one?
01:50.47Xinhuannot require a specific one
01:50.52NightHawkTheSaneah, okay
01:50.57Xinhuanwell in the first place, Routes never required any gathering modules to be loaded
01:51.16Xinhuanthey are only "required" when you want to create a route, then it'll look in the SV for the node locations
01:51.29Xinhuanotherwise once created, i don't give a fuck if you disable all your gathering modules, routes will still work :D
01:52.34KivinSanI think I understand why people AFK in AV on my battlegroup.  I'm nineteen losses to one win.  Who would want to fight in those conditions
01:52.52JoshBorkei had some dead horde in sw
01:53.01EvilJohnthen people should stop queing then
01:53.05JoshBorkewho said something about 'quit being crybabies and que for AlteracValley'
01:53.11JoshBorke4 of them
01:53.16JoshBorkeit was awesome
01:53.41NightHawkTheSanethats great :)
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01:54.21Pkekyo|"This is your chance to spread christmas spirit, man... It's contagious... Like VD!"
01:55.21Ellipsis...eww
01:55.54Pkekyo|rofl
01:56.13Pkekyo|meh, I hate the smell of melted plastic
01:58.17Pkekyo|I should stop melting plastic
01:58.56NightHawkTheSaneyou should inhale deeply of the fumes
01:59.28Pkekyo|nothanks, I'm driving
02:01.02Pkekyo|got better stuff for fumes anyways
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02:05.15FinPitbull isn't updating its texture when I select it from the dropdown
02:05.22Finis there somewhere else I can set this?
02:06.19Pkekyo|I'm guessing rock config?
02:07.05FinI'll check there, thanks
02:08.13Finno, it's set to the same there
02:08.28FinI thought it would be, I think it's a rock config subthingy that shows up when I configure Pitbull anyway
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02:10.10CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58927 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Rearrange config in a poor attempt to make it look better
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02:21.53CIA-803arrowmaster * r58928 10Mendeleev/Set_Instances_61-70.lua: Mendeleev: add Illidari Council and Reliquary of Souls to Black Temple loot set
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02:50.23potemkinanyone know what event
02:50.27potemkinit is in arena when it says
02:50.32potemkinFifteen seconds until arena starts!
02:50.44JoshBorke~devtools
02:51.03purlIriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?
02:51.03RaydenUnithe crap
02:51.03RaydenUninow i only have 66 +hit
02:51.03JoshBorkeyou can use that to see
02:51.04RaydenUnii need 11 more
02:53.39gixis there any way to send addon-messages with acecomm with different prefixes?
02:55.20Arrowmasterwhy do you need to send multiple prefixes
02:57.28gixto send messages between different addons. well, of course both could use the same. i will probably have to do that anyway as i don't see a way to specify a prefix when sending
02:58.10Arrowmastercreate a new object and embed acecomm into it
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02:58.26Arrowmasteror dont use acecomm for one of them
02:58.29RaydenUniheh
02:58.34RaydenUnicarrot on a stick gives no +hit
02:58.53Arrowmasterwhy would carrot give +hit????
02:58.53Ellipsisbrilliant discovery, RaydenUni
02:59.04Ellipsishe was wondering why he was missing some +hit, up there ^^^
02:59.14Arrowmasteroh lol
03:03.35CIA-803paene * r58929 10Cryolysis2/core/ (defaults.lua spellfunctions.lua):
03:03.35CIA-8Cryolysis2:
03:03.35CIA-8- Fixed some bugs with the new mount detection
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03:09.48gixhm. i think it also works if i just register both prefixes
03:10.18ckknightto receive, not send
03:12.00gixyes, of course. it's just the other way around then. instead of A sending with prefix B, B receives stuff with prefix A
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03:12.52gixhm. but then i could just use the same prefix.
03:13.12RogueShadowhmm.. what's going on in the wow world these days?
03:13.39Pkekyo|sorry that I'm beating a dead horse here, but...why the flying fuck would carrot on a stick give +hit?!
03:13.55ckknightRogueShadow: WoW world?
03:14.16ckknightPkekyo|: during combat, it goes up your sphincter, making you enthused to get the fight over with soon
03:14.20RogueShadowOk, that sounds terrible. I admit it.
03:14.24RogueShadow:(
03:15.01ckknightwhat do you mean, though?
03:15.14ckknightevents Blizz is planning? how addon authors are doing? what?
03:15.26RogueShadowHave you made anything cool recently, addon's
03:16.04ckknightnot really, been working on other projects
03:16.06ckknightand irl stuff
03:17.38ckknightI'm moving soon
03:17.38RogueShadowmm.  That's not bad at all.
03:17.38Pkekyo|sod it...4am and I've got absolute arseloads of work to do in the morning...g'nite lads and lasses
03:17.39Ellipsisnight Pkekyo| (cough wimp cough)
03:18.02Pkekyo|duck my sick
03:19.11JoshBork1ckknight: you get a job?  what part of us?
03:19.29ckknightno job yet, I'll be heading to San Francisco and start the job hunt there
03:19.35JoshBork1ah, cool
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03:27.14gixmeh. they can't use the same prefix. acecomm doesn't allow that.
03:28.17Arrowmasterdoes one addon not use acecomm and the other does?
03:28.24gixboth do
03:45.11Estilblackrock is full
03:45.12Estilqq
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04:03.32khanggis there an addon that tells me when a buff is about to go down so i can recast it?
04:04.42JoshBork1khangg: i know CT_BUffMod can warn you but i'm sure there are others
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04:11.35khangganyone? :o
04:12.00drc|awayat lot of 'em out there
04:12.13drc|awayany specific buff or just all of em?
04:14.46drc|awayspellreminder might be what you're looking for
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04:20.39RaydenUnii need 85 more badges
04:21.33Modulo216i need a good solo warlock talent build for leveling as quick as possible
04:21.41khanggdrc|away, battle shout, rampage
04:21.47khanggModulo216, what level?
04:21.49KivinSanstraight down the affliction tree
04:21.49khanggare you
04:22.00khanggyeah affliction, or felguard is pretty good as well
04:22.01Modulo216i'm level 10 heh, just rolled him
04:22.23KivinSanget the highest quality wand you can and go into affliction
04:22.38RaydenUnidon't bother with talents you kill everything anyways
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04:26.28khanggwould tihs macro work for a spam heal + cast PoM whenever it's up?
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04:26.54khangg<PROTECTED>
04:28.57RaydenUnitoo bad there isn't a spell called Ration
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04:36.19CIA-8FuBar_TopScoreFu:
04:36.19CIA-8- Added 'Guardian of the Hawk' to list of vulnerable mobs.
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04:40.05KaeltenWow Interface Featured Author
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04:42.00khangghmm
04:42.21khanggcould someone help me with a macro to spam heal + cast PoM whenever it's up?
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04:54.48Tekkubhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=25964  <--- tank, dps, both?
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04:55.43jscinozhey guys,
04:56.28jscinozim working on a little perl script to convert wowhead maps into cartographer databases, however... i cant understand the way cartographer stores its database, in the string "[78804005] = "Windy Cloud"," what does each number represent?
04:56.34CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58932 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Fully implement route optimization code and route aceopt tables, except "Delete Route".
04:56.45Xinhuanthe number is the "coordinate"
04:56.50RaydenUnii think i'm about gear capped
04:56.56RaydenUnii need to replace one trinket and that's it
04:57.05RaydenUnifor my raid progression
04:57.05Xinhuanyou convert the coordinate into X, Y numbers using this function:
04:57.35Xinhuanx, y = (coord % 10001)/10000, floor(coord / 10001)/10000
04:57.43jscinozthanks
04:57.50Xinhuanwhere x and y here are within the range of [0, 1]
04:58.05jscinozhmm
04:58.47Xinhuanthe reverse process is simple as well,
04:58.48Xinhuanreturn round(x*10000, 0) + round(y*10000, 0)*10001
04:59.44Xinhuanwhere round() is floor(x + 0.5)
04:59.50jscinozseems like an excessively obfuscated method of storing simple xy values >_<
05:00.00Xinhuanthe idea is to store it as a single number
05:00.05Xinhuannot as a pair of numbers
05:00.21Xinhuanwhich reduces memory use, but increases cpu use
05:00.26jscinozugh
05:00.27Xinhuanstandard tradeoffs
05:00.45RaydenUni~860 dps vs dr doom :)
05:00.54RaydenUni86000 dmg until oom
05:01.33CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58933 10Routes/Locale-enUS.lua: Routes: How did i miss committing this file?
05:01.40RaydenUnilol
05:01.51jscinozalright then, since the wowhead maps store pois as 6 digits (xxxyyy) as a long url, i simply need to take that change to XX.X,YY.Y,  and run it through that formula.
05:02.13Xinhuanincorrect
05:02.18jscinoz>_<
05:02.23Xinhuani repeat that cartographer requires nodes in the range [0,1]
05:02.44Xinhuanwhen you do a GetPlayerMapPosition() in game in lua, it returns values between 0 and 1
05:02.44jscinozcoords/100 then?
05:02.49Xinhuanwhat you see on wowhead is coord*100
05:02.58jscinozie 58.0,75.1 becomes 0.58, 0.751
05:02.58Xinhuanand then rounded to 2 decimal places
05:03.03Xinhuancorrect
05:03.06jscinoz0.75 then :D
05:03.08jscinozalright
05:03.13Xinhuanthen convert that 0.58, 0.751 to
05:03.16Xinhuanreturn round(x*10000, 0) + round(y*10000, 0)*10001
05:03.40jscinozugh i was hoping i could do this whole thing with some regexp trickery guess not now >_<
05:03.42RaydenUniWOW
05:03.53RaydenUnithis spriest excel sheet calcualtes my dps would be 873
05:03.57RaydenUnii was doing ~860
05:03.59RaydenUnithat's cool
05:04.04RaydenUnibefore my dps was always much lower
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05:06.04RaydenUnilength of time before i'm oom seems way off though
05:06.06RaydenUniinteresting
05:06.35EllipsisRaydenUni: how much +shadow?
05:06.48mortnot enough ;)
05:06.52RaydenUni1080
05:07.05Ellipsisum, you should be doing more than 860 dps then
05:07.11RaydenUni!c raydenuni us destromath
05:07.13RaydenUni!help
05:07.13Ellipsisunless you mean solo
05:07.21RaydenUniyeah only my buffs
05:07.24RaydenUnithis was vs dr boom
05:07.49RaydenUni!c us destromath raydenuni
05:07.52ThraeBotRaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/46). 8181 HP; 8535 Mana; 150 mana regen; 45 mp5; 50 spell crit; 92 spell hit; 827 +spell dmg; 859 +heal; 179 frost dmg (1006); 230 shadow dmg (1057); 5.22% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 860 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Sun Jan 20 00:15:30 2008 EST ]]
05:08.01RaydenUnijust replaced my trinket with Orb of the Soul Eater
05:08.20RaydenUnier offhand
05:08.38Ellipsis:/
05:08.43RaydenUniwhy does alone count?
05:08.47RaydenUnidmg increasing debuffs?
05:08.55Ellipsisnot having a tank
05:09.08RaydenUniwhy would that increase dps?
05:09.09Ellipsisanyway, against dr. boom, you should still be doing more
05:09.20RaydenUnireally?
05:09.20mortthere are still some easy item upgrades for zou
05:09.24EllipsisI can do 1k and I have almost the exact same +shadow (and I have to account for way more hit rating as a lock)
05:09.26RaydenUnilike what?
05:09.32RaydenUnii've been looking over the list on shadowpriests
05:09.34mortwand for badges, dark moon card
05:09.53mortand why do you socket +heal gems?
05:09.53RaydenUnithe only things i can see are a trinket, belt (super expensive)
05:09.54Arrowmasterspriests get less benifit from +dmg because mindflay is their main attack
05:09.56RaydenUniyeah some badge stuff
05:10.04RaydenUnimort they were in the bank and i was feeling cheap
05:10.12RaydenUni+5dmg for free vs +9 for 50g
05:10.15RaydenUniguild bank
05:10.25RaydenUniwhat Arrowmaster ?
05:10.26mort!c eu alleria shyet
05:10.28ThraeBotmort: Shyet, Level 70 Draenei Priest (13/0/48). 7851 HP; 7080 Mana; 143 mana regen; 43 mp5; 164 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 857 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1090); 388 shadow dmg (1245); 5.10% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 976 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yucwy2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dtv9p ][ Updated: Sun Jan 20 00:18:07 2008 EST ]]
05:10.38Arrowmasterwas responding to Ellipsis
05:11.00RaydenUnioh yeah Ellipsis shadow priests do less dmg cause we do other stuff
05:11.02Ellipsisdoesn't matter, his gear is slightly better than mine (other than maybe my darkmoon trinket)
05:11.09Ellipsishe should be doing comparable dps
05:11.10RaydenUni30% of my damage is mind flay
05:11.30RaydenUniand i know mind flay takes less from +dmg than normal
05:11.32Arrowmasteryour casting it most the time though right
05:11.35mortmy (inactive) shadow, no more time for raiding :(
05:11.41RaydenUnicasting mindflay?
05:11.45Arrowmasterchanneling
05:11.52RaydenUnikeep up VT, SWP, SWD, MB, then MF
05:12.09RaydenUniso yeah it's what i cast mostly
05:12.27RaydenUnii cast it 45 times
05:12.34RaydenUnithat doesn't make sensse
05:12.38RaydenUnishows swp as 32
05:12.44EllipsisRaydenUni: did you do dr. boom until OOM or until he died?
05:12.47RaydenUnimaybe that's ticks? still doesnt make sense
05:12.51RaydenUnioom
05:12.57Ellipsisweird :/
05:13.01Arrowmasterthis from WWS?
05:13.02RaydenUnitill he died would be a lot of drinking
05:13.05RaydenUnirecount
05:13.11RaydenUnii could WWS
05:13.15RaydenUnino, i didn't have it on record
05:13.25Ellipsis...I did him til he died, but I'm a freaking warlock with infinite mana
05:13.36mortrecount shows mindlfay ticks, not casts
05:13.41RaydenUniEllipsis like i said, the shadow priest spreadsheet i have says i should be doing 870dps
05:13.54Ellipsiswell shadow priests fail then
05:13.58RaydenUniso 15 mindflay casts
05:13.59RaydenUniwhy?
05:14.04RaydenUniwe do healing and +mana
05:14.13RaydenUniAND we give you warlocks +15% dmg
05:14.16Ellipsisbecause at a comparable gear level you're doing 80% of my dps
05:14.20mortwe don't, i can hit around 1400dps raidbuffed ;)
05:14.22Ellipsisas a dps spec
05:14.28RaydenUniEllipsis but shadow priests aren't pure dps
05:14.32RaydenUnimana battery
05:14.34AntiarcShadow priests don't exist to DPS
05:14.37AntiarcThey're mana batteris.
05:14.41RaydenUniat comparable dps you should beat a spriest
05:14.45AntiarcThe fact that they do DPS is purely coincidental
05:14.48RaydenUnicomparable gear
05:14.59Ellipsisfeh
05:15.04RaydenUnithe other thing is at kara, shadow priests ahve access to really good gear
05:15.09EllipsisI'd rather have you put up your debuffs and then healbot me
05:15.10RaydenUnibetter than kara level
05:15.10Ellipsisimo
05:15.15RaydenUni?
05:15.34RaydenUniwell you don't care you don't run out of mana
05:15.38RaydenUnithe healers love me
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05:15.50Ellipsisthat's what potions are for
05:16.10EllipsisI never had OOM issues while healing raids, and that was before people realized spriests were useful in tbc
05:16.10RaydenUniover the course of my fully dps'ing i returned 218mp5
05:16.11morthealers? you should be with mages/hunters, they are are far more mana starved
05:16.19RaydenUnias a warlock?
05:16.24Ellipsisno, as a druid
05:16.27AntiarcHAhaha
05:16.28Xinhuanthat's routes 40% ported over ;p
05:16.29AntiarcDruids never go OOM
05:16.30EllipsisI HEAL GUD AS WARLOK LULZ
05:16.30AntiarcEver
05:16.30RaydenUnidruids are insanely mana efficient
05:16.44RaydenUnii've had near wipes and the druid had over 50% mana
05:16.52AntiarcLifebloom is overpowered as hell.
05:17.17KivinSanNot so much since the 2.3.2 fix
05:17.28AntiarcMuch less so, but still crazy powerful
05:17.31RaydenUnimort for kara we usually have 2 healers, (mage or some hunters) so for the most part all the casters are in my group
05:17.42RaydenUniwe have a ton of melee dps
05:17.46mortahh ok, just kara ;)
05:17.49RaydenUniyeah
05:18.09RaydenUnithe problem is i'm ready to go raid something past kara as far as my gear goes
05:18.16RaydenUnibut my guild insists on being casual and raiding once a week :(
05:18.18morti had the luxury of raiding bt/hyal on my priest :)
05:18.42RaydenUniso i'm working up my druid to take my spriests spot in my guild so the spriest can go raid with another guild
05:19.19jscinozxinhuan, would my $string = "580751";my($x, $y) = $string =~ m/(.{3}){.{3}/; be suffient to generate coorsd*100
05:19.21mortinteresting choice, my twink is also a druid :)
05:19.28Xinhuani don't know
05:19.33RaydenUnispent all afternoon getting my druid from 38 to 40
05:19.45Xinhuandepends on whether wowhead always returns 6 digit strings
05:19.45mort!c eu alleria yeru
05:19.46RaydenUnimelee dps and tanking is a nice change from spriest
05:19.51ThraeBotmort: Yeru, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (8/11/42). 7594 HP; 8975 Mana; 324 mana regen; 161 mp5; 4.56% melee crit; 660 +spell dmg; 1941 +heal; 5.59% dodge; 53 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 954 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xo3ou ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2txqtt ][ Updated: Sun Jan 20 00:27:29 2008 EST ]]
05:19.56Xinhuanyou'll kill yourself if it doesn't
05:20.40RaydenUnihow do you have a lvl 70 twink?
05:20.40mortbecause i play too much
05:21.02jscinoz!c us crushridge jscinoz
05:21.05Orionshockwhat's that one fubar plugin that has information for just about every single zone?
05:21.16ThraeBotjscinoz: Jscinoz, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/42/19). 7118 HP; 6230 Mana; 120 mana regen; 22 mp5; 4477 Armour; 1118 AP; 189.200 Melee DPS; 20.62% melee crit; 99 melee hit; 335 +spell dmg/heal; 10.56% dodge; 5.00% block; 20 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 861 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynjuph ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ztkug ][ Updated: Sun Jan 20 00:28:55 2008 EST ]]
05:21.37jscinozlol fail.
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05:22.04RaydenUniOrionshock lcoationfu?
05:22.06RaydenUnilocationfu
05:22.41morti also have a lvl 70 mage, and working my hunter up to 70 (he is 66 atm)
05:23.42Orionshockwhat's the generic stop moving or sizing command?
05:23.55Orionshocksomehthing like this:StopMoving() ?
05:24.40RaydenUnimy uber damage is a blessing and a curse
05:24.46RaydenUnii died on attumen last week cause i got aggro
05:24.47Orionshocktrying to unstick something from my mouse...
05:25.03xyusdf
05:26.05jscinozugh regexps are confusing
05:27.48kd3whee at the LA datacenter taking a nose dive
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05:28.19KivinOrionshock: region:StopMovingOrSizing()
05:29.36ulickd3: tell me about it
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05:30.40Funkeh`grrr
05:30.46Funkeh`why can't unitmana just return mana
05:30.51Funkeh`not other powers
05:31.01OrionshockXinhuan:  bank item's mm icon get's all bitch when you manualy move it with scripts ... :D
05:31.13Xinhuanmm icon?
05:31.19ulicminimap
05:31.22Orionshockminimap icon
05:31.23CivrockWow, what the hell... everything is offline (and can't connect) but my IRC client. o_O
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05:31.31Xinhuanoh heh
05:31.34xyuAnyone in the midwest have internet problems right now?  
05:31.40ulicCivrock: yea, I think some router went down or something
05:31.45Xinhuanthe mm button code is like a photocopy of the atlasloot one
05:31.48Orionshockseems like the pic isn't anchored to the ring
05:31.50ulicI can do some webstuff, but nothing blizzard
05:31.57xyulike 13 of my friends and i cannot log in to wow, half of the vent servers are down, and the internets are slow. oO
05:32.19kd3eesh. at&t must've lost some routers
05:32.20Orionshockxyu: over seas?
05:32.26ulicno US
05:32.27CivrockNC, USA
05:32.27xyunah,  midwest US
05:33.12Orionshockwow's servers in California are on the old att network, the real one... and their prity solid..
05:33.37Orionshockwhat's your trace route look like xyu / ulic ?
05:33.45xyuto what IP?
05:33.55Orionshocklogin service and server
05:34.02xyui dont know my servers IP
05:34.04Orionshockwow wiki has all the ip's iirc
05:34.05xyuis there a list of that somewhere?
05:34.09xyuok
05:34.22kd3http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter
05:34.25Orionshockservers by datacenter
05:34.38kd3don't trust the IPs themselves, but the datacenter listing is accurate
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05:34.55CivrockCan't connect to wowwiki, heh.
05:35.16Paeneyeah, everyone else having net problems?
05:35.31KivinA friend says that his whole kara raid is okay on vent except one person, which just started having issues a few mins ago
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05:36.29ulicI gave up, I have server friends still logged into a west coast server, but I couldn't get connected to Auth to get back in, I'm in Den, CO
05:36.36xyumy tracert is timing out like 8 hops out.
05:36.44xyuit doesn't even get out of michigan i dont' think.
05:36.46xyu(where i am)
05:36.49Paenesame
05:37.02Paenesounds like a major DNS server went down
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05:37.13ulicI'm on qwest dsl here, not sure where it goes from there
05:37.35chiperyeah, my kara group was just about to start and then the main tank and healer lagged out, but their vent works fine
05:37.35Paenexyu: where in Michigan are you from?
05:37.35ulicI could do some dns, like personal website and google
05:37.42xyuPaene: grand rapids
05:38.00ulicanyways, I'm off, have a good night all, gl getting back in.
05:38.09PaeneHoughton here (Upper Peninsula)
05:38.25xyuah, my family lives in the Soo
05:38.27chiperI love houghton
05:38.36PaeneI go to school here :)
05:38.40chiperwe used to go up there in the winter to visit friends
05:38.41PaeneI'm from Brighton/Novi
05:38.44chiperMichTech?
05:38.47Paeneyep
05:38.50PaeneWinter Carnival?
05:38.53chiperyup
05:38.55Paene:)
05:39.18chiperawesome area, even in the summer
05:39.35chipertho i doubt I'd want to live there perminantly
05:39.37xyui'm not a big fan of the U.P  heh
05:39.55spafbihttp://www.internetpulse.net/
05:39.55spafbihttp://www.bluehill.com/weather/
05:39.55spafbi-- Bad stuff going on right now.
05:40.05Orionshockulic:  u like colorado?
05:40.15Kivini take it all that yellow and red is bad
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05:40.30spafbiYup
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05:40.50Orionshockulic:  try using at&t's dns servers.... it's what i use, im on cox networks.
05:40.51CivrockWish I could connect to those sites. >_>
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05:43.08xyuthey work for me.  i haven't found an actual website i can't get to yet.   however half of my vent servers that i know are online  i cannot connect to
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05:44.06Orionshockxyu: call your ISP and tell them to "Rip and rebuild the curcit" that your on.
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05:45.20alcarashrm
05:45.23alcarashealpoints does NOT work for paladins
05:45.26alcarasit way overvalues spirit
05:45.35alcarasany suggestions for either a way to fix it, or a better mod for paladins?
05:46.13Orionshock... eh, one should know by lvl 70 how hard your heals hit for, should not need an addon to tell you
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05:48.17chiperthis looks like it's likely AT&T's fault
05:49.25Paeneyep
05:49.29Paenethat's my guess
05:49.43KivinLooks like the problem is only getting worse, if i understand the numbers at all
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05:50.02Lukianalcaras, you should be able to configure it
05:50.05alcarasOrionshock: I'm 68, have been ret leveling up, and want to select the right gear as i switch to holy
05:50.13xyui hope its a l33t haxor who will be on the news tomorrow morning
05:50.18alcarasLukian: I mess with config, but I can't get rid of the spirit bias
05:50.26alcarasi understand spirit is pretty blah for paladins
05:50.28Kivinalcaras: That's easy.  Avoid spirit whenever mp5 is avaiable.  Get intellect and +healing
05:50.46Keiasspell crit too
05:50.50KeiasDue to illumination
05:50.55alcarasRight, Kivin
05:51.01KivinSpell crit sort of comes along with the other relevant stats.  you don't need to specifically gear for it
05:51.08alcarasHealPoints, however
05:51.10Orionshockalcaras: i recommend to start with what looks best, then through trial and error get better, forums help
05:51.14alcarasis telling me Int/Spi is better than Int/Mp5
05:51.20KivinThe gear you want should sort of scream "I'm a healadin peice"
05:51.20alcarasand i want to know whether it just doesn't work for paladins
05:51.32alcarasor if i can tweak it somehow
05:51.35KivinDo paladins have a talent that gives passive regen from spirit while casting?
05:52.04Kivintbh, Just get RatingBuster
05:52.23alcarasi have it
05:52.28alcarasjust going to uninstall healpoitns for my pally
05:52.34alcarasit's misinformative
05:53.11mortthere is a healadin spreadsheet on the ej forums iirc
05:53.18theoddone33Kivin: no such talent
05:53.27theoddone33paladin regen is all mp5
05:53.30theoddone33spirit is useless
05:53.34Kivinthat's what i thought
05:53.36Kivinjust wanted to hear someone say it
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05:53.47alcarasmort: yeah i'll dig that up and feed it in pawn
05:54.10theoddone33well, mp5 and crit
05:54.15Kivinhonestly i wouldn't even use pawn.  there's no need.  
05:54.33theoddone33mp5 is I guess superior to crit, but I dunno
05:54.48Kivinit is
05:54.48theoddone33I've seen some wws logs where illumination gave back like 24k mana or something ridiculous
05:55.03Kivinyour spellcrit basically takes care of itself
05:55.31theoddone33I got a couple kara pieces and I'm up to like 117 mp5 while casting now
05:55.34alcaraskk
05:55.39alcarasi'll just fly by eye
05:55.49mortspirit reg is just bad, for every class
05:55.53alcarasjust getting rid of healpoints
05:55.59alcarasb/c it is jarring to see the WRONG recomendation
05:56.08theoddone33spirit isn't super perfect for priests?
05:56.26bigzerous login server lagging?
05:56.29Ellipsistree druids, anyone?
05:56.38theoddone33lots of US servers are down
05:56.41theoddone33it seems like
05:56.48mortit bad, even for druids
05:57.10theoddone33all I know is I got a light's justice and I put unholy on it
05:57.19morti get more mana reg vom mp5 stacking than from spirit, even if i calculate 2 self innervates in
05:57.21theoddone33I only whip it out when I want to look cool because it's not great for healing
05:57.52mortand the tree aura is next to useless, you are not in the tank group most of the time
05:58.25alcarasyah i just got disconnected and can't reconnect
05:58.46theoddone33yeah that happened to me about half an hour ago
05:59.01chiperwhoa  http://weathermap.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene_jpg.html
05:59.02theoddone33so now I'm reading positive/negative cloverfield reviews and I figure I may go see it
05:59.05chiperDDoS much?
05:59.08AntiarcThe internet is sucking
05:59.10AntiarcIt's not a DDOS
05:59.14AntiarcThe entire internet is struggling
05:59.22AntiarcAll the backbones are at ~75% network availability
06:00.04theoddone33I definitely don't understand how to read that chart
06:00.09Kerafyrmoh?
06:00.23Antiarchttp://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?xAxis=Metric&yAxis=Origin&zAxis=Destination&nAxis=Period
06:00.27CivrockURLs with www. aren't working for me, without www. they are.
06:00.30CivrockHeh.
06:00.31Kerafyrmhttp://internethealthreport.com/
06:00.57AntiarcCheck the "Network availability" metric
06:01.11exor674yeah, the internet blew up
06:01.14AntiarcAT&T, Sprint, and Verizon are all blowed up
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06:01.48CivrockIt's the Cloverfield monster attacking, I tell you.
06:01.56theoddone33yeah seriously
06:01.58bigzeroi'm on at&t, but my connection isn't that bad (except for wow login server)
06:02.03dre^interseting
06:02.17theoddone33it's been weird for me all afternoon
06:02.25theoddone33but just been disconnecty recently
06:02.58Antiarchttp://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/19/brazil-bans-counter-strike-everquest/ <--- what.
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06:03.17alcaraswhat caused this?
06:03.21alcarascyberterrorism?
06:03.23theoddone33ah I hate gamepolitics
06:03.25theoddone33love/hate
06:04.32Paenelol cyberterrorism
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06:05.18khanggwhere do i get ouf?
06:05.20Paenemost likely, a large server blew up...things began getting rerouted, and it overloaded other networks which then proceeded to blow up
06:05.40dre^I'm guessing fiber cuts / core router outages
06:05.44AntiarcI'm guessing someone got drunk and tripped over a router power cable
06:06.18alcarascan anyone reconnect?
06:06.19PaeneO
06:06.20AntiarcOh, I know what it is.
06:06.20CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58935 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Copy/paste DrawMinimapLines() and drycode a bunch of stuff minimap stuff
06:06.21Antiarchttp://youtube.com/watch?v=D1Tvj4Rv3Yg
06:06.37dre^alcaras: it surely depends on location... I never got logged out
06:06.44sdubbleI want to add the auto attack to a macro, what's the command for that?
06:06.59dre^<PROTECTED>
06:07.03dre^one or the other I'm sure
06:07.04sdoubleI've tried both
06:07.12Ellipsis/cast Attack
06:07.15dre^ah
06:07.31Ellipsisnote that it may not work unless you're an alchemist
06:07.36Orionshocksdouble: what you want is /startattack
06:07.38Ellipsisyou can thank blizz for that :)
06:07.40khanggnvm go tit
06:07.44khangggot it
06:07.58sdoubleboth work, thanks guys  =]
06:08.05dre^go tit! go tit! it's yer birfday...
06:08.12alcaras"We are experiencing an issue with players disconnecting from certain realms and are actively investigating this with our ISP.  Thank you for your patience."
06:08.25dre^heh yeah. pretty clearly a network problem
06:08.25theoddone33isn't at&t their isp?
06:08.28PaeneIT'S THE Y2K BUG FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO US
06:08.33dre^theoddone33: yes I believe so
06:08.33Drazzlol
06:08.37Orionshocksdouble: but not the same way, /startattack can be spammed w/o loosing the swing. /cast Attack will toggle it
06:08.44sdouble/startattack is better since it doesn't toggle
06:09.03bigzero<PROTECTED>
06:10.14Ellipsisbigzero: /cast was (is?) broken for the first thing in your spellbook
06:10.20Ellipsisgenerally, on enUS, that's either alchemy or attack
06:10.24AntiarcIt's the Y2.038056829725785K bug
06:10.39dre^taht's a lot of significant digits!
06:10.46PaeneAntiarc: Well obviously, I just rounded :)
06:10.47dre^I'm sure by now it's not that anymore ;)
06:10.53Kerafyrma large server?
06:10.53Kerafyrmno
06:10.56Kerafyrmrouter mebbe
06:10.57kebinusanui scale is so annoying
06:10.59Kerafyrmswitch likely
06:11.05dre^Kerafyrm: network problems with at&t
06:11.05kebinusanyou shrinks it and fonts become unreadable
06:11.11PaeneWoW just updated
06:11.19Paeneitheir status thing
06:11.24Kerafyrmi'm well aware, its been happening for a good time now
06:11.36Paenesomething about their ISP being AT&T and having network problems lol
06:11.52alcaras"We are experiencing an issue with players disconnecting from certain realms and are actively investigating this with our ISP.  Thank you for your patience."
06:11.59HIghoSI'll still never understand why they don't offer multiple peers into their network.
06:12.13dre^I was just looting Avalanche Leggings when people started dropping... won the need roll, but not in my bags. boo
06:12.13pastamancerAT&T does the hosting for bliz
06:12.14kebinusanATT iss currently upgrading their network to isntall traffic monitoring software
06:12.16HIghoSIt's not the first time that AT&T has had their network fucked up and they gotten owned by it by not ahving any kind of backup connection.
06:12.46Kerafyrmatt dosn't do the hosting.. att is the upstream provider for bliz
06:12.48kebinusanbtw, its standard practice to always blame your upstream carrier for outages
06:12.50kebinusan:-)
06:12.54alcarasRumor has it that terrorists are involved
06:13.07HIghoSI am talking about the upstream being the problem.
06:13.10alcarasAnd that we should all submit to electing Bush king for life
06:13.17HIghoSI'm saying, bliz should have multiple upstream peers.
06:13.18pastamancerI was under the impressions that blizzard had servers at AT&T's colo centers
06:13.20Antiarckebinusan: Lag.
06:13.23alcarasthen we will be Safe(tm)
06:13.34Antiarcpastamancer: AT&T as a whole is sucking the big one
06:13.43AntiarcIts entire backbone is dropping like a rock
06:14.09dre^HIghoS: I'm guessing that WoW is big enough that they're parked at a major carrier facility, versus a public peering point
06:14.22dre^due to cost
06:14.37kebinusanmost decent colos peer with multiple carriers
06:14.39dre^but I agree. multiple upstream = good
06:14.53dre^ya kebinusan, I just doubt they're at a typical colo
06:15.05AntiarcMy colo has 3 carriers, and I only have 18U
06:15.18kebinusanprobably NSA wiretap being put in place on wow traffic to catch the carriers
06:15.22kebinusanerr catch the terrorists
06:16.09Orionshockblizzard has 4 data centers, one in ca / tx / colorado / and IL?
06:16.14Orionshockit's on the wiki
06:16.22Ellipsisthere's one in seattle too
06:16.23HIghoSI dunno, it's just always annoyed me that a company like blizzard is too cheap to implement multiple peers to their network when you consider their revenue.
06:16.27Antiarc(11:13:12 PM) Kalman has changed the topic to: Elitist Jerks - http://elitistjerks.com/ - AT&T stood in the fire.
06:16.28AntiarcROFL
06:16.30Kerafyrmdosn't mean they have their OWN DC's
06:16.32Orionshockseattle - not IL
06:16.35Kerafyrmthey are prolly in carrier hotels
06:16.37HIghoSWhen I consider what we do for work at the fraction of profit they make, it's like wtf.
06:16.39Kerafyrmlike most others are
06:16.43Kalman|workSometimes there is fire.
06:16.46Kalman|workYou have to not stand in it.
06:16.48AntiarcYou have to not be in the fire.
06:16.51AntiarcHeeheehee.
06:16.55AntiarcThat's our raid mantra
06:16.55kebinusanheh
06:17.09AntiarcWe had a rogue die once on Supremus to "Invisible fire"
06:17.19AntiarcSo now we mock anyone who dies for being in the invisible fire.
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06:17.30Arrowmastermy guild is wishing for a fight in sunwell where you have to stand in fire
06:17.30Keias...invisible fire?
06:17.44kebinusannow the fire chases you!
06:17.48Keiasa 25 man version of Hakkar
06:17.57KeiasThat burns itself when you're ignited
06:18.00Keias!!
06:18.12AntiarcArrowmaster: A fight where you have to stand in the fire would rock.
06:18.16AntiarcWe would own that fight so hard.
06:18.18Arrowmasterwe dont care we just want a fight were we have to stand in the fire
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06:18.31theoddone33maybe like rag
06:18.31Ellipsishaven't you people done aran? :P
06:18.33AntiarcSome fight where you have to stand in the fire and be slow at reacting to your environment
06:18.37theoddone33except you have to stand in the lava
06:18.47AntiarcEllipsis: Well, the trick with flame wreath is to not stand in the fire
06:18.52Arrowmastersince one of our rogues whos also one of the guild leaders always dies in fire or other such stuff
06:18.54AntiarcIf you stand in the fire, boom
06:19.06Ellipsisthe trick with flame wreath is *not* to react to your environment, specifically fire
06:19.14Ellipsiswhich sounds like exactly what you guys are talking about
06:19.23Arrowmasteron arch he said 'now dont be a noob and die in the fire' immediently before dying in the fire himself
06:19.28theoddone33well the fire doesn't kill you
06:19.29dre^haha
06:19.33theoddone33while you're standing in it
06:19.46kebinusanyou dont actually stand in the fire tho
06:19.48Xinhuantell him to diaf :)
06:19.54kebinusanat least by my understanding of the word wreath :-)
06:19.55Ellipsisyou stand inside the fire...kinda...
06:19.58Ellipsisjust not IN the fire
06:19.59Antiarcdia(i)f
06:20.09Arrowmasteryeah on wipes for certain fights its 'diaf'
06:20.23Arrowmastersince fires dont give you durability
06:20.33Antiarcgo go doomfire
06:20.36Arrowmasterdurability deaths
06:20.45Xinhuanmain tank down!!! quick, DIAF!!! no dura loss to doomfire!
06:20.47kebinusanyeah, it screws up me trying to re-read WWS on archimonde
06:20.57theoddone33fires don't kill durability?
06:20.58theoddone33hm
06:21.01xyuUgh,  i hope we get archi down tomorrow
06:21.02theoddone33I thought they did
06:21.06Ellipsisl2 hellfire, nubs
06:21.14AntiarcOur raid leader calls Archimonde wipes by telling us to die in a fire
06:21.17xyu15 attempts on him last week.  best is 13%
06:21.35Xinhuanwell you win at 10%
06:21.39Xinhuanso you're just 3% off
06:21.45chiperheh, I've been sitting here smacking a bloodsail raider for 15 minutes trying to level my maces skill
06:21.51Orionshockgot mag last night for the first time, 9 attempts :D
06:22.02chipermy dps is 2.2 :P
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06:22.49Keiaschiper, what level is the character?
06:22.54chiper43
06:22.58pastamancerAntiarc: that's interesting.  Blizzard has an AS but they're not using it
06:22.59KeiasAhh nm then
06:23.02chipertarget is 41
06:23.07KeiasWas gunna say Shadowmoon valley for skill ups :P
06:23.09Antiarcpastamancer: AS?
06:23.30chiperI'm just letting myself smack him constantly, periodically healing myself
06:23.34pastamancerAntiarc: BGP routing thingy, you need one if you're going to have multiple upstream network providers
06:23.53AntiarcFewer acronyms!
06:24.11AntiarcDammit Jim, I'm a coder, not a network engineer.
06:24.22Paenesomeone say my name?
06:24.35Paene<---Jim
06:24.46Xinhuanchuckle
06:24.46Xinhuan+ /
06:24.52exor674pastamancer: bind on pickup routing
06:25.37XinhuanBig Gay Porn Routing - designed for maximum pleasure
06:25.45Paene~seen Vulcanus
06:25.48purlvulcanus <n=Vulcanus@149-67-254.231210.adsl.tele2.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 5h 58m 47s ago, saying: 'I know, but is it not possible to cap towers and then go pvp? :P'.
06:25.48EllipsisO.O
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06:26.30Paenelol, I love the thread in the Tech Support forum titled "Terrorists bombed Blizz HQ!"
06:26.51Paenewonder how many replies it'll get by the end of tomorrow
06:27.08chiperhahahaha, i finally got him down to 15% and he ran away
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06:28.00dre^people are able to log back in now, at least some
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06:29.45pastamancerhmm, I can get further with at&t's public route server now, looks like things are working better on the network side
06:30.29xyuYeah i'm able to connect
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06:31.03CivrockServers are back up, too.
06:32.28pastamancerI'm in
06:35.08bigzerop2p file sharing is ftw. don't have to buy textbooks yay!
06:38.27AntiarcMan, the stock market took a hell of a hit yesterday
06:38.28Antiarchttp://finance.google.com/finance?q=UIC
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06:43.32MentalPower~jira
06:43.32purlJira is an issue tracking system used by a lot of companies and open-source projects. Following is a short list of public Jiras. WoWAce: http://jira.wowace.com - Norganna: http://jira.norganna.org
07:02.11bigzeroyou guys know how when the name of the item doesn't fit in one line on the ah, blizz makes it span two lines and then it adds the ellipsis at the end? is it just me or those ellipses seem to be placed randomly and as far as i've seen never for an abreviated item name
07:03.06Xinhuannot random
07:03.42Xinhuanif a fontstring has been restricted to BOTH a width and a height, then if the text to be displayed will use up more space than this width/height, the last 3 chars are replaced with ... to fit
07:03.54Ellipsisbigzero: you can go die in a fire now
07:04.08Xinhuanif a fontstring doesn't have a width, it will grow as long as needed in width
07:04.22Xinhuanif a fontstring doesn't have a height, it will grow as tall as needed with wrapping
07:05.30Xinhuanthere are 2 types of wrapping - where it wraps only at spaces, or where it doesn't (if a word is longer than the given width so it can't wrap)
07:07.41bigzeroXinhuan, ummm, ok, but the names never get abbreviated. like i'd understand if the last 3 cars would get replaced, but they don't
07:07.43CIA-803daviesh * r58938 10AtlasLoot/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
07:07.43CIA-8AtlasLoot:
07:07.43CIA-8-Using the reset slash command now also re-centres the loot browser and options menu.
07:07.43CIA-8-Fixed up many missing 'Back' buttons
07:07.43CIA-8-New first time user message. Will update whenever a new feature is introduced.
07:07.54Xinhuanexample?
07:07.58Xinhuanscreenshot?
07:08.03bigzerocheck out green hills of stranglethorn
07:08.06bigzeroon ah
07:08.11Xinhuani'm not in game
07:08.16bigzerook, ss inc
07:08.18Xinhuanwhat does it show?
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07:08.44bigzerosec
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07:11.08bigzerohttp://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/1/19/f_WoWScrnShotm_ffa0027.jpg
07:11.33Arrowmasterhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10905/
07:11.47Arrowmasteri dont even get why somebody would do that
07:12.19bigzerois it really the same exact copy? byte by byte?
07:12.50Arrowmasterexact same contents (checked with diff) and exact same file dates even
07:12.55Xinhuanthe ... either looks like a bug, or maybe its because of the height
07:13.18Arrowmasterfor all files including the libs
07:13.38Arrowmasterso yes its an exact copy even if its not byte for byte
07:13.47Arrowmasterprobably is
07:14.09Xinhuancan't you report it?
07:14.14Arrowmasteralready did
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07:15.30Arrowmasterhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10896/
07:15.41Arrowmasterlol great place to submit something like that
07:16.46Arrowmaster*sigh* http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10845/
07:16.49Arrowmasterquestfu.....
07:17.16ArrowmasterKemayo: ping
07:17.19ShadowedWhy are you complaining
07:17.24Shadowedclearly if it's not on CG, the author meant it to be their
07:17.28Shadowedthe user is just helping you out with that
07:17.56bigzerohuh? if it's not on CG the author meant it to be there?
07:18.05Arrowmasterhes joking
07:18.32bigzerook, got me confused... god, way to sound so serious
07:18.58ShadowedClearly you haven't listened to my sarcasm before then!
07:19.28bigzeroso it seems
07:33.46Arrowmasteromg
07:33.50Arrowmasterthis one takes the cake
07:33.59Arrowmasterhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10822/
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07:58.30potemkinis making frames in xml a pre 2.0 thing
07:58.54Arrowmasteryes
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08:00.17Funkeh`eh?
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08:00.31Funkeh`making frames in xml is perfectly fine
08:00.58Funkeh`use what you are more comfortable with
08:03.07Osstia|maccan anyone think of an example of an addon that modifies an in game frame (such as te honor tab of a character frame) that I could look at?
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08:35.52baer_moin.
08:36.34baer_can i somehow configure my parrot that it displays the threat caused by each of my shadowpriest spells (instead of dmg)?
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08:42.24NightHawkTheSaneno
08:44.51Fisker-wanna make love?
08:46.10Fisker-might as well just use omen
08:47.36CIA-803aliset * r58939 10/tags/StatFrameLib/:
08:47.36CIA-8StatFrameLib:
08:47.36CIA-8- Add a tags directory
08:47.43baer_actually i use omen. :)
08:48.30baer_but it would be great to have the threat instead of the damage my spells do.
08:49.56chiperis there still a mod to help with AV premades?
08:53.44mortlightqueue
08:55.19Fisker-whmm
08:55.25Fisker-why is there no by group 40 w/pets :P
08:55.30Fisker-in grid
08:58.46CIA-803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58940 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix a drycode error
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09:09.05silentiumgood question Fisker-, I've edited a "group 40 w/pets" into my local GridLayoutLayouts.lua too
09:11.12baer_hmmm...
09:11.34baer_Fisker-, do you really need to show pets?
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09:12.47silentiumIMHO there's no reason not to show them, if no player needs healing but a pet does then why not heal it?
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09:14.42baer_silentium, that's quite a point.
09:15.21baer_i never played a healing class in bc, but as far as considering pets in wow-classic i never healed a pet with my druid. :)
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09:18.35CIA-48037destiny * r58941 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: koKR update
09:20.01Fisker-baer_ a pet is a substantial amount of dps for hunters
09:20.57baer_Fisker-, that might be right, but in which fight does a pet take a large amount of damage?
09:21.52Fisker-why does it need to take a big amount of damage?
09:21.54Fisker-if it's neglected it's gonna die regardless
09:22.00baer_pets usually position themselves behind a target and since there's no 360° cleave there's no need to heal 'em.
09:22.07Fisker-and a hunter shouldn't be healing them
09:22.09baer_usually VE heals most of 'em. :)
09:23.01Fisker-requires them to be grouped with a shadowpriest
09:24.31baer_yup.
09:24.50baer_being honest, which encounter do you think of?
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09:26.37baer_or is it a more general attempt to healing pets? :)
09:29.59Fisker-none
09:30.09Fisker-as you could read i said "group 40 w/pets"
09:30.22ramozwhat!
09:30.36ramozwowhead recently got a awesome feature?
09:30.40ramozthe 3d view thingie
09:31.30vhaarrI think curse had that feature before wowhead
09:32.54ramozoh, i didnt even knew curse had a database
09:32.59vhaarrwowdb.com
09:33.00Fisker-because their site is shit
09:33.49vhaarrah you need a beta account still
09:34.41Fisker-curse v1 = win
09:34.47Fisker-curse vwhatever = wtf
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09:35.29nevcairielcurse page has been changing for like 10 times last year
09:39.08khanggoUF won't show my buffs =(
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09:43.43NightHawkTheSaneis there any programatic way to determine if you have your pvp flag manually toggled on? (as opposed to just being flagged and waiting for it to fade)
09:44.24nevcairielGetPVPDesired()
09:45.10NightHawkTheSanethanks
09:45.59CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58942 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix minimap coord calculation
09:46.41davedso im using AceOptions, and i have an 'execute' type, where i want 2 args to be passed.. is there any 'standard' method of validating the args / printing usage information ?
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09:48.40Orionshockdaved: i think your using it wrong
09:48.48Orionshockuse type='input' instead
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09:49.10Orionshockit's got a validation option
09:50.54davedgotcha
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10:03.55daveddoes anyone have a good helper function to parse item links of various types, or have a list of the different formats somewhere? my parser can seem to get some items, but fails on say Hearthstone
10:04.04vhaarr~seen nymbia
10:04.43purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-153-2.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 4h 7m 11s ago, saying: 'any single '|' will probably cause that error, actually'.
10:04.43vhaarrdaved: wowwiki.com
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10:11.54Fisker-i'm 1337
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10:27.48Orionshockdaved: www.wowwiki.com
10:27.53Orionshockit's your friend
10:28.10Ellipsis...but his question was already answered in the exact same way 25 minutes ago when he asked it
10:28.33OrionshockEllipsis: :P
10:28.42Ellipsisno u.
10:28.43Orionshocknot seeing a reply in the log
10:28.50Ellipsisdo you have vhaarr on ignore?
10:29.07Orionshockno, but i am blind
10:29.09Orionshock:D
10:29.21Ellipsis~fail Orionshock
10:29.32purlOrionshock: Fail.
10:30.42Fisker-whats the auction house cut on items?
10:30.50Fisker-faction auction house of course
10:31.08Ellipsisnot as much as your mom charges!
10:31.15Fisker-LOLOLOLOL
10:31.17Fisker-your mother
10:31.29CIA-4803kivin * r58943 10KivinSpamGuard/ui.lua:
10:31.29CIA-48KivinSpamGuard:
10:31.29CIA-48- Reimplemented Gui options: enable/disable addon, toggle filtering of general/trade/guildrecruit channels, and suppress verbose chat log notifications.
10:32.25Ellipsisalso, I believe it's 5% faction, 15% neutral
10:33.32Fisker-zzz
10:33.38Fisker-auctioneer should have a mass-cancel auction
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10:36.12Fisker-MentalPower|ZzZz
10:36.13Fisker-ENGAGE
10:42.55CIA-4803kivin * r58944 10KivinSpamGuard/main.lua: KivinSpamGuard: Fixed svn:keywords that didn't crossover nicely from test repo.
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10:51.46Pkekyo|g'morning all
10:51.56Ellipsismornin Pkekyo|
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10:58.43KivinI'm looking for some example code for creating a pull-down combo box frame.  Anyone know where I should start to look?
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10:59.49Pkekyo|find an addon at files.wowace.com? :p
10:59.54Kivin...
11:00.37davedis there a way to get current date/time in unix epoch-type format?
11:00.49Kivintry time()
11:00.57Kivinit's epoch, dunno which epoch
11:01.05davedok, gonna go hide in the corner now :P
11:03.23Polarinadaved: For your information: time() is the only method of getting data in the game without having to reload the user inteface.
11:03.37Arrowmasterlua_bot: time()
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11:03.40Kivin(o.O)
11:03.42Ellipsis...
11:03.44Ellipsiswhat?
11:03.52Arrowmasterlua_bot os.time()
11:03.53KivinIs it just me
11:03.57KivinOr did that just make no sense at all
11:04.02Arrowmasterlua> os.time()
11:04.02lua_botArrowmaster: 1200827042,
11:04.29vhaarrGetTime()
11:04.40Arrowmasterthats server time
11:04.49Arrowmasterisnt it
11:04.51vhaarrno
11:04.54KivinGetTime() is computer uptime IIRC
11:04.58vhaarry
11:05.06Arrowmasterlua> GetTime()
11:05.06lua_botArrowmaster: [string "GetTime()"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value)
11:05.06Kivintime() is epoch
11:05.12Pkekyo|anyone happen to have an ASUS M2V motherboard? :)
11:05.40[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, think lua_bot got its own time func
11:05.40KivinAnyone know where I can find some example code to create a combo box frame
11:06.09Arrowmasterlua_bot is just standard lua
11:06.12KivinHmm I didn't want to go into the FrameXML, but I may just well have to
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11:06.27Kivin~framexml
11:06.39purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com
11:06.43Kivinpurl: thank you
11:06.43purlKivin: de rien
11:06.55Arrowmastersince os.* isnt available in wow they maped a few functions to different globals like os.time() to time()
11:07.00Polarina~gluexml
11:07.01ZarielGetGameTime() Arrowmaster
11:07.13[Liquidor]Yeah I know Arrowmaster
11:07.29CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58946 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix nil error on zones not in Tourist
11:08.26Fisker-immune
11:08.39Polarinano, purl, gluexml is <reply>GlueXML is glued to itself, pieces it cannot go into.
11:08.46Arrowmasterbuilt up resistance to if after enough time?
11:09.02Polarinapurl, no, gluexml is <reply>GlueXML is glued to itself, pieces it cannot go into.
11:09.03purlokay, Polarina
11:09.07Pkekyo|anyone here good with hardware?
11:09.07Polarina~gluexml
11:09.08purlGlueXML is glued to itself, pieces it cannot go into.
11:09.24KivinUIDropDownMenuTemplate, bingo
11:09.37Arrowmasterpurl, forget gluexml
11:09.37purli forgot gluexml, Arrowmaster
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11:09.45PolarinaArrowmaster: !!!
11:10.28Pkekyo|is it possible to run a RAID  between a SATA2 and a SATA1 drive?
11:10.41Arrowmasteryes
11:10.44Arrowmasteryou can raid anything
11:10.57Pkekyo|really?
11:11.05PolarinaJust don't expect to find any bosses.
11:11.05Arrowmastersoftware raid
11:11.20Pkekyo|>.<
11:11.28Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: care to elaborate? :)
11:11.44Arrowmastersoftware raid vs hardware raid
11:11.57Pkekyo|what's the difference?
11:11.59Arrowmasteralthough most hardware raids are really software raids anyway
11:12.28Arrowmasterhardware raid is done completely by the raid controller
11:12.34Arrowmastersoftware raid is done by the os
11:12.56Pkekyo|but software raid is safe for backup either way? :)
11:13.24Arrowmasterraids from most raid controllers except the really expensive ones with ram is xor chips is really done mostly by the drivers so its really shitty software raid
11:13.38KivinA puzzle for you all.  What does UIDropDownMenu_CreateInfo() do?  It appears to return a blank table with no metatable.  What's it's purpose?
11:14.48Pkekyo|hm
11:14.48Pkekyo|I need a RAID setup to backup my photos...but only got one internal satan2 slot
11:15.25Arrowmasterbackup photos?
11:15.39Pkekyo|what's the difference between 0,1 and JBOD?
11:15.40Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: I take ALOT of photos....don't wanna lose any of them :)
11:16.25ArrowmasterJBOD is just combining a bunch of drives into one, its like 0 but well not
11:16.34Pkekyo|oh
11:16.59Pkekyo|RAID1 would be the one mirroring the drive then? :)
11:17.00Arrowmaster1 is mirroring
11:17.18Arrowmasterremember it will only protect against drive failures though
11:17.31Pkekyo|now I've gotta find two cheapass satan drives
11:17.45Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: that's pretty much what I've got to worry 'bout, no? :)
11:17.48Arrowmasternot deletion or filesystem corruption or other stuff like that
11:18.05Pkekyo|it's not windows safe in other words? :p
11:19.05Pkekyo|well, the first part is fine, I hardly delete photos.... filesystem corruption could royally screw me over then
11:20.10Kivinlua> t = { "a", "b", "c" }; t[2] = nil; print(#t); for i in ipairs(t) do print(t[i]) end
11:20.10lua_botKivin: 3, a
11:20.55Kivinlua> t = { "a", "b", "c" }; table.remove(t, 2); print(#t); for i in ipairs(t) do print(t[i]) end
11:20.56lua_botKivin: 2, a, c
11:22.12Industriallua> print {'foo','bar'}
11:22.13lua_botIndustrial: { "foo", "bar" } (#1)
11:23.51Pkekyo|why the flying fuck are there still COM ports on motherboards?
11:24.18Xinhuanwhat really?
11:24.20Ellipsisbecause there's room for them
11:24.39Pkekyo|oh sod that, give me another 6-8 USB ports or so
11:24.41Xinhuani thought all the COM ports are replced by USB ports nowadays
11:25.02Pkekyo|they're not...should be though
11:25.52exor674Pkekyo|: they're there for the people who need to write USB drivers for Windows :P
11:26.05Pkekyo|fuck them :)
11:26.11KivinI actually have an old joystick plugged in to a com port on my mobo :P  though the actual joystick is sitting somewhere under my desk in the vaccum which swallows up my antiquated belongings
11:26.12Pkekyo|geif moar USB
11:26.30Ellipsisexor674: you are the reason some people still insist on using floppies. go die in a fire. :P
11:26.43exor674Pkekyo|: fill your computer with USB 2.0 cards :P
11:26.57Pkekyo|exor674: allready did
11:27.05Pkekyo|agreed, Ellipsis
11:27.10exor674how many frelling USB ports do you need?
11:27.30Pkekyo|about 300...why?
11:28.26exor674I think you are a USB addict :P
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11:28.50Pkekyo|so fucking what? it's 2008, get with the programme, you floppydongjob :p
11:30.09Pkekyo|also: how the flying fuck would someone conclude that Hamas "is like the green berets"?
11:30.29Xinhuanlua> 1/80
11:30.29lua_botXinhuan: 0.0125
11:30.45Xinhuanlua> 1/0.05
11:30.45lua_botXinhuan: 20
11:30.48Xinhuanhmm
11:31.19davedlua> "Xinhuan is a spammer"
11:31.19lua_botdaved: Xinhuan is a spammer
11:32.36CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58947 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Change the Minimap OnUpdate throttle from 0.2 seconds to 0.04 seconds (25 fps) which is the minimum fps needed to perceive smooth motion
11:33.03Zarielsmooth motion is smooth
11:33.08Xinhuanhmm maybe it should be lower
11:33.17Xinhuansince any slower updates will not be smooth ;d
11:33.31Industrialhm im doing a quest ni SMV where i need to dress up as a blood elf
11:33.41Industrialbut the buff goes away after 2 sec
11:33.44[Liquidor]0.001 Xinhuan, gogo
11:33.44Industrial3 times now
11:33.58Xinhuani might as well remove the throttle if i put 0.001 ;d
11:34.15[Liquidor]200 fps ftw
11:35.12CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58948 10Mapster/ (Config.lua Coords.lua Mapster.lua Mapster.toc): Mapster: first draft of an options table
11:35.19[Liquidor]Industrial, wowhead it
11:35.23Industrialgot it
11:36.13EllipsisIndustrial: is this really the first time you've dressed up as a blood elf? (be honest now)
11:37.01thulghey
11:37.06thulgeeeheeey
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11:38.38thuldid you miss me btw?
11:38.38Pkekyo|oh hai thul
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11:41.01thulPkekyo|: mhm
11:41.03thulegypt
11:41.04thulam there still
11:41.08thulgoing home on tuesday
11:41.13Pkekyo|oh lucky sod
11:41.19thulno wow for two weeks :-( but loooots of sun, bathing and stuff
11:41.54Pkekyo|lol
11:42.23Brunersanyone who could tell me how to set up pitbull to show in big letters when feign death is resisted?
11:42.29Bruners*parrot
11:42.55Pkekyo|geif egypt
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11:43.22Zarielif you have local name = UnitName("player"), how do you put that into a savedvariable as a table key?
11:43.26Zarielso name = {}
11:43.42thulegypt sucks at wireless internet
11:43.43thulthat is for sure
11:43.48Pkekyo|^^
11:43.58PolarinaXinhuan: Why not just remove the throttle?
11:44.03OrionshockZariel:  tbl[UnitName("player")] = {}
11:44.11Xinhuandon't want it running every frame
11:44.24PolarinaXinhuan: Why not?
11:44.40thuland why is 70 yar old ladies with HUGE UGLY TITS sunbathing topless?
11:44.40Pkekyo|"we'll steal it - so that it'll be stolen! and it's dirty, so it'll be dirty!"
11:44.41Industrialegypt is fun
11:44.44Industrialscuba diving :o
11:44.51Pkekyo|lmfao thul
11:44.53Industrialew
11:44.55Xinhuanbecause calculating the XY coords of 400 nodes and checking if the lines intersect your minimap (which can be any of 15 shapes) is computationally intensive
11:45.16Xinhuandrawing the lines itself requires more matrix math
11:45.23Xinhuanto position it on the minimap
11:45.50thulscuba was fun, fo sho
11:45.56thulbut old ugly italian ladies: GO HOME
11:46.05PolarinaXinhuan: How is that a problem?
11:46.21kagarothul: they cant help it
11:46.21Xinhuanredrawing it every frame this causes a fps drop
11:46.42PolarinaXinhuan: Have you tried it?
11:46.47Xinhuanya
11:47.39PolarinaXinhuan: But for those who constantly have only 25 FPS, won't the current throttle reduce that?
11:47.40kagarothul: they forget how they look now vs at 20 sunbathing topless
11:47.57Xinhuanyeah, hence it should be lower than 0.04
11:48.00Xinhuani was musing over it
11:49.18thulkagaro: something like that :-P
11:50.02kagarothul: I gota say I enjoy the 20 something look when im in naples crusing the beaches
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11:55.18ramozXinhuan: any way you can export from WoWEquip to a file? :O
11:55.45Xinhuanno
11:55.48Xinhuanmaybe in the future
11:57.01ramozwould be awesome
11:57.23ramozoh, and when wowhead makes their "armory" you can import it there (lol)
11:57.40ramoz:P
12:00.10CIA-4803alar * r58949 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc):
12:00.10CIA-48AlarLib
12:00.10CIA-48Debugging mode available
12:00.40Stan_that's what the world was waiting for Mr. alar
12:01.00Pkekyo|fucksake, for some reason, wow is running on 0.25 fps
12:01.11Ellipsiswell maybe now that he has debugging mode, he can fix bugs?
12:01.23EllipsisI'm sorry, I just can't type that with a straight face
12:01.25Stan_oh hai Ellipsis
12:01.35Ellipsishai2u2
12:01.41Pkekyo|nub Ellipsis
12:01.43Ellipsis=[
12:01.56Pkekyo|:D
12:01.59Vulcanuslolz
12:02.08Ellipsisafter all my <3, Pkekyo|, this is how you treat me?!
12:02.50Pkekyo|hmm
12:02.50Pkekyo|good question
12:03.20Pkekyo|0.25fps sucks :<
12:04.05nevcairielDoes anyone know if any frame function resets its Strata?
12:04.14*** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.45.72)
12:05.13Pkekyo|ok, why the flying fuck won't wow go above 1fps?
12:05.19*** join/#wowace kovi (i=kovi@p4FD66BE6.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:05.47PolarinaPkekyo|: Open up your Config,wtf and disable the software renderer.
12:06.31Pkekyo|should my software renderer magically have enabled itself overnight?
12:06.33Fisker-bawww tiems
12:06.49PolarinaPkekyo|: Yes.
12:07.10Pkekyo|wtf, why?
12:07.31*** join/#wowace a^i`SmaN (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net)
12:07.32PolarinaPkekyo|: Don't ask me.
12:07.47Pkekyo|also, what line should I alter to disable it?
12:08.00thulhmm
12:08.05PolarinaPkekyo|: SET gxApi "opengl"
12:08.07PolarinaPkekyo|: Try that.
12:08.33Pkekyo|just make a new line?
12:08.39PolarinaPkekyo|: Yes.
12:09.16Pkekyo|well that went tits up
12:09.28PolarinaPkekyo|: Problem solved. :D
12:09.35dre^anybody know of anything that can store profiles for frame locations / sizes? xperl tries to do this but only stores x/y, not size.
12:09.38Pkekyo|lousy openGL support, wow has it? :)
12:09.41ZarielRight this is pissing me off
12:09.44PolarinaPkekyo|: Yes.
12:09.51PolarinaPkekyo|: OpenGL pwns everything.
12:10.12Pkekyo|only seeing random flickering on the screen is not "problem solved"
12:10.20ZarielHow do you Initilize a data base like db = { realm = player = {},},} and then access that db at player level?
12:10.25PolarinaPkekyo|: Enable VSync.
12:10.48Pkekyo|Polarina: can't be arsed...huge chunks of graphics are missing
12:11.01PolarinaPkekyo|: Can I see a screenshot?
12:13.05cncfanaticsPkekyo|: are half of your textures black ?
12:13.07cncfanaticsand do you use ati
12:13.26Fisker-they disabled -opengl in the command line btw
12:13.29Fisker-so that doesn't work anymore
12:13.54Arrowmasterit worked fine for me on monday
12:13.58Pkekyo|Polarina: incoming
12:14.09Arrowmasterthen on wednesday it was all fucked up with -opengl
12:14.09Pkekyo|cncfanatics: pretty much, and yes
12:14.26cncfanaticsPkekyo|: let me link you a working config.wtf
12:14.30Pkekyo|http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1331/openglrj7.jpg
12:14.48cncfanaticsyep, thats the issue I had too
12:14.51cncfanaticspixelshaders related
12:14.52Arrowmasterthats exactly how mine looked with opengl
12:14.55Fisker--opengl has been disabled for quite some time
12:15.12cncfanaticshttp://cncfanatic.free.fr/Config.wtf
12:15.12cncfanaticsPkekyo|, Arrowmaster: here is a fix
12:15.12Arrowmasteri fucking swear i was using -opengl perfectly fine on monday
12:15.12Pkekyo|what values hould Iassign to vsync?
12:15.15cncfanaticsthat config.wtf will work
12:15.17Fisker-but you weren't Arrowmaster
12:15.30Polarinacncfanatics: SET ffxNetherWorld "0" ?
12:15.42Pkekyo|cncfanatics: what's altered in it?
12:15.45cncfanaticslook it up on wowwiki
12:16.00cncfanaticsI don't know all by heart either p
12:16.00Fisker-is there some way to fix flame patch btw?
12:16.01PolarinaSET M2UseShaders "0"
12:16.05Polarina?
12:16.10Pkekyo|cncfanatics: so it's full-screen glow? :)
12:16.26Arrowmasternetherworld sounds like the death effect
12:16.29Fisker-flame patch can't be seen at certain angles
12:16.36Fisker-which is pretty annoying
12:16.43cncfanaticspixelshaders are an issue with ati ahrdware
12:16.45cncfanaticsas well as glow
12:16.55cncfanaticsthat config disables the relevant stuff so it'll work
12:17.21Fisker-man
12:17.25Matrix110hmm is there any mail log out there? (it should log incoming AND outgoing mails)
12:17.30Fisker-i need to sell all my prismatic shards before making new ones :P
12:17.32Pkekyo|cncfanatics: it disables glows etc?
12:17.37cncfanaticsPkekyo|: yea
12:17.37Fisker-i have 70 large prismatic shards on AH now
12:17.52Pkekyo|cncfanatics: but that's no fun!
12:18.03cncfanaticsPkekyo|: rather have everything black ?
12:18.15Pkekyo|no, rather have everything the way it used to be...
12:18.17Polarinacncfanatics: What is SET CombatLogRangeCreature "2000"  ?
12:18.27cncfanaticsincreases combatlog range to stupid amounts
12:18.32Polarinacncfanatics: ?
12:18.45cncfanaticssets the combatlog range at 2000 yards
12:18.51cncfanaticsits 50 yards by default I think
12:18.57Polarinacncfanatics: And does it actually works?
12:19.03Pkekyo|why the flying fuck would you want that?
12:19.09cncfanaticsPkekyo|: raids ?
12:19.15Arrowmasteryou can only get combatlog events from visable units
12:19.22Polarinacncfanatics: Does it really work over 2000 yards?
12:19.22Pkekyo|2k yards?
12:19.24cncfanaticsI think blizz hard capped it at 200 yards recently
12:19.35Fisker-the cap is vision range
12:19.38Fisker-which is max 100 yards
12:19.41Pkekyo|well, I'm gonna see if a reboot can fix everything...brbwut
12:19.42Fisker-as far as i know
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12:19.54cncfanaticsFisker-: you can see party members at more then 100
12:20.31Arrowmasteryou can only see devilsaurs at less than 20
12:20.32Fisker-ok
12:20.46Arrowmasterand felreavers
12:20.55PolarinaBut why so low?
12:21.08Arrowmasterits a joke.....
12:21.25Polarina20 yards for Felreavers? Why so low?
12:21.29Fisker-lol
12:21.32Fisker-you suck Polarina
12:21.41CIA-4803kagaro * r58950 10/branches/GatherMate_Data/ (GasData.lua HerbalismData.lua MiningData.lua dbgen.rb.txt): GatherMate_Data: fixed import parsing and id generation
12:21.48CIA-4803mokhtar * r58951 10GridDynamicLayout/GridDynamicLayout.lua:
12:21.48CIA-48GridDynamicLayout:
12:21.49CIA-48- Attempt to get rid of the session specific DPS war list propagating into the "default DPS war list" database value
12:22.00Arrowmastersomebody else explain it im going to bed
12:22.39cncfanaticsPolarina: you fail at life
12:22.42thulhmmm
12:22.59Polarinacncfanatics: How?
12:23.14thulhmm
12:23.14Ellipsisjust so you guys all realize, not all IRC girls are like Polarina. thank you.
12:23.15cncfanaticsfor not getting that oh so obvious joke
12:23.17thulwhat is it with felreavers? :-P
12:23.41cncfanaticsEllipsis: where does that random comment come from all of sudden ?
12:23.43Polarinacncfanatics: ?
12:23.46nevcairieli never even guessed that its a real girl Ellipsis ^^
12:24.04Ellipsiswell, there are no girls on the interweb, etc. etc.
12:24.09Ellipsisbut you know what I mean
12:24.17thulPolarina has to be a girl
12:24.20thulpolarbearballerina
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12:24.35thulanyhow, i don't get the joke :(
12:24.47Pkekyo|what joke? what'd I miss?
12:25.01Ellipsisoh god, it's contagious
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12:25.08Ellipsisteh whole channel is catching fail :(
12:25.13Ellipsisrun while you still have a chance!
12:25.37thuldo not get it
12:25.44thulbtw, has there been a patch since i was gone? (last 2 weeks)
12:25.52nevcairielhm
12:25.58nevcairieli think 2.3.2 falls in that
12:26.03Pkekyo|were you here for 2.3.2?
12:26.12Gnarfozwtf is ice nova
12:26.14Pkekyo|frostmages got buffed :D
12:26.28nevcairielfrost nova? i have no idea, i never played a mage :P
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12:26.33Gnarfoz:P
12:26.34Orionshockhttp://wowwebstats.com/adrpr4zvqdtim
12:26.36nevcairielthat icy-nova-ish thing that freezes you :P
12:26.41Fisker-Pkekyo| moar like arcane and fire mages got buffed
12:26.42Fisker-:(
12:26.44cncfanaticsfreeze, frost elemental ability
12:26.49Orionshock4 attempts at hydros on the first night at him
12:26.52cncfanaticsFisker-: more like all mages got buffed
12:26.56thulhmm
12:26.57Pkekyo|Fisker-: the new frost talent is full of win and awesome!
12:26.59thulno
12:27.04Fisker-perhaps Pkekyo|
12:27.07thuldo not think so
12:27.08thulthe shadowstep/hemo-buff-patch?
12:27.09Pkekyo|it is
12:27.14Fisker-true cncfanatics
12:27.19Pkekyo|no idea, the one where all mages go ticeblock
12:27.29thulhmm, ok
12:27.45Fisker-i'd say that iceblock benefits fire/arcane more than frost specs though
12:27.48thulmaybe I'll keep doing shadowstep/hemo/backstab-ambush-ownage in bgs then
12:28.05Fisker-wtb trainable holy tree
12:28.16Fisker-then holy paladins might be a bit funnier to play
12:28.23GnarfozOrionshock: your shadow priest sucks :D
12:28.23Pkekyo|Fisker-: you have to consider the talent that frostmages got instead too
12:28.30Orionshockyes
12:28.32Fisker-i know
12:28.41EllipsisWTB trainable instant corruption before anyone else gets any other talents trainable
12:28.45OrionshockGnarfoz: he's undergeared
12:28.58Pkekyo|lol Ellipsis
12:28.59Fisker-your mothers suck :D
12:29.05thuli doubt it
12:29.10CIA-4803kagaro * r58952 10/tags/ (GatherMateData/ GatherMate_Data/): GatherMate_Data: adjusting tag dir for updated name
12:29.18thulbut i think that jamie eason does
12:29.32Pkekyo|I'd imagine rigimortis would prevent any sucking
12:29.46Pkekyo|meh, it've gotten to a point where it's more profitable to level my mage than to farm on my main :p
12:29.50Gnarfoz*rigor mortis
12:29.56Pkekyo|Gnarfoz: thanks :)
12:30.03Gnarfoz^^
12:30.04thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245294559-L.jpg
12:30.20Pkekyo|thul: ..?
12:30.21thulbtw, rigor mortis was a nice cs-clan
12:30.28CIA-4803kagaro * r58953 10/tags/GatherMate_CartImport/: GatherMate_CartImport: creating tags dur
12:30.29thulpkwhat ?
12:30.33thulPkekyo|: what ?
12:30.39Pkekyo|what's with the photo?
12:30.46Pkekyo|looks blurry as a motherfucker
12:30.55PolarinaI honestly don't get it why I fail in life...
12:31.01Pkekyo|also: l2highres :)
12:31.14thulblurry? :-P
12:31.17thulpffft
12:31.41Pkekyo|either that, or those mountains and that pier are fucking freaky
12:31.52thulit is not a pier, it is a building:P
12:31.56Ellipsisbut you like them freaky
12:32.00Ellipsisso what's the problem?
12:32.00thuland the mountains are in the efog D:D
12:32.31Pkekyo|thul: either way :p
12:32.32thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245294559-XXXL.jpg <- the reason why the poles look blurry in small resolutions, is beacause they have small iron poles at the top
12:32.36thulwhich makes it look blurry
12:32.38cncfanaticsPolarina: are jokes a mistery to you ? :p
12:32.39Pkekyo|Ellipsis: valid point, I'll get back to you on that
12:32.59Pkekyo|I suspected it was birds or something tbh
12:33.56thulYOU SUSPECTED WRONG!
12:34.07Pkekyo|well that's a first...some twat in org is calling gold "gold pennies"
12:34.22Pkekyo|selling 15str on gloves for 10 GPs
12:34.49Pkekyo|thul: I WAS NOT PREPARED!
12:35.16thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245299705-X3.jpg <- that is more blury :P
12:35.20thulbut i like it even though
12:36.00Pkekyo|that's pretty crisp tbh
12:36.26Pkekyo|if you think that's blurry, go buy some glasses
12:36.44thulhaha
12:36.44Pkekyo|thul: were you the one going to oppdal taking photos?
12:36.53thulmhm
12:36.53thulthat is me
12:37.07Pkekyo|been there yet? if so: shaer
12:37.17Pkekyo|great snow there now :)
12:37.21Pkekyo|and alot of HUGE jumps
12:37.40thulhehe, not since xmas, no
12:37.44thulbut I'm going in not too long, to do a few ski-pictures
12:38.13Pkekyo|were there a couple of weeks ago...got one wicked photo
12:38.23thulnice
12:38.25thullinkage?
12:38.32Pkekyo|need to find some chump that'll buy it :p
12:39.00Pkekyo|in a sec
12:39.02thulhehe
12:39.25Pkekyo|http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2008/011/8/f/360_Indy_Grab_by_Pkekyo.jpg
12:39.25Pkekyo|that's one sick bastard
12:39.33Pkekyo|he jumped practically from jump to jump
12:40.18thulhome sweet home :-D
12:40.19thulwho was it? local guy?
12:40.41Pkekyo|no idea tbh...met him up on the mountains....tried to take some photos, but he was too bloody fast :p
12:40.44Fisker-you only made that picture to get one of his ass
12:40.47Ellipsisyou guys are so cute :P
12:41.01Ellipsisbut yeah, seriously: quit the flirting and hook up already
12:41.02thulcan't recognize him
12:41.03thulmaybe gaute
12:41.13Pkekyo|Ellipsis: elaborate?
12:41.26thulcool photo!
12:41.26EllipsisPkekyo|: it's obvious you and thul were made for each other :)
12:41.36thulEllipsis: other than that we are not gay? :-P
12:41.37Pkekyo|he didn't quite have the accent in though
12:41.42Pkekyo|Ellipsis: nothanks, I'm driving
12:41.43thulhmm, ok
12:42.03Pkekyo|not that I could notice anyways...and that accent is pretty easy to notice :p
12:42.41thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245300300-X2.jpg <- that one would be very mad at me then Ellipsis  :-(
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12:42.59Ellipsisaw, she's cute ^-^
12:43.24thuli certainly think so
12:43.56ZarielPatch modulated cable is just standard Router > PC cable right?
12:44.13Pkekyo|Zariel: sounds like it
12:45.14thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245300871-O.jpg
12:46.33Pkekyo|thul: that a male or female?
12:47.14thulmale
12:47.39Pkekyo|arab countries...meh...it's like being drunk at a party where EVERYONE are wearing dresses
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12:48.08thulhaha
12:48.09thulow do you know about these parties? :P
12:48.44Pkekyo|no
12:50.31thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245301452-X2.jpg <- view from hotel in kairo
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12:50.47thulor.. hostel, not hotel :-P
12:52.17Pkekyo|I lived at a hostel once...in oslo...I'm fairly certain someone had died in there
12:52.27Pkekyo|wicked view from yours though
12:53.16thul60 egyptan pounds (about 60 NOK)
12:53.21Pkekyo|bah, I need to interview someone about piracy today >.<
12:53.23thulpr night
12:53.28thulhaha
12:55.07Pkekyo|that's not a bad price tbh
12:55.28Pkekyo|I'm going to london in march...think it's 300/night
12:55.38thulah? ok
12:56.20Pkekyo|really can't afford it, but got no choise :p
12:57.01thulhaha
12:57.03thulwhat are you doing there?
12:57.07thuland no choise?
12:57.40Pkekyo|class trip :)
12:58.04Pkekyo|know how prices for photo equipment are in england?
12:58.25thulhmm, a bit lower
12:58.26thuli think
12:58.28Pkekyo|I really need a macro lens :p
12:58.37thulhehe
12:59.02thuli use my 18-50 2.8 for macro
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12:59.34Pkekyo|I've got a 14-45...not the same as a macro though..
12:59.44Pkekyo|shame, 'cause the 14-45 is a good one
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13:00.14thulaww
13:00.24thulmy 18-50 is not a real macro, but it has a very low focusing distance
13:00.32CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58954 10Mapster/ (Config.lua Coords.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: added options to coordinate module
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13:01.45thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245302597-X3.jpg <- Pkekyo|
13:01.52Pkekyo|mine's not quite low enough
13:02.04Pkekyo|it's barely though, so it's kinda a shame I need to buy a macro lens :p
13:02.09Pkekyo|cool
13:02.20Pkekyo|would make a wicked long expo shot imo
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13:02.41thulmhm
13:02.51thulgot my trtipod 4 minutes later, but the light wAS GONE :-(
13:02.53thulTOO BAD
13:02.55thuloi caps
13:03.06Pkekyo|hehe
13:03.10Pkekyo|been there, done that
13:03.31Pkekyo|norway as far too little overpasses over high-traffic roads :p
13:03.41PolarinaCHRIST!! I pressed Delete Character instead of Back and even wrote the confirmation code as I though it was a confirmation code to exit before I noticed it was the confirmation code to delete my level 70 hunter!
13:03.59Ellipsis...a confirmation code to exit?
13:04.04Stan_lol
13:04.17Ellipsisit's the word "DELETE" how much more obvious does it get? >_>
13:04.18Stan_"write "DELETE" to exit the game"
13:04.25Stan_hrhrhr
13:04.29CIA-4803gandharva * r58955 10Deadened/localization.lua:
13:04.29CIA-48Deadened:
13:04.29CIA-48- added frFR translation. Thx to Aet
13:04.45Pkekyo|lmfao Polarina
13:04.50Ellipsisyet another benefit of alt-f4: it will never, ever, ever delete your characters!
13:04.55Pkekyo|sorry, but I need screenshotographic proof
13:05.48cncfanaticslol Polarina :p
13:05.56thulPolarina: hmm.. fail?
13:06.09Brunersyou cant be serious about that
13:06.20Pkekyo|Polarina: you bloody better screenshot the conversation with GM
13:06.51PolarinaPkekyo|: I noticed it before pressing the Ok button and pressed Cancel.
13:07.05Pkekyo|>.<
13:07.58Pkekyo|anyways, why are mediterranian people so sensitive about their mothers? :p
13:08.09PolarinaIt was so close...
13:08.14Fisker-your mother will blot out the sun
13:08.17thulooooh.. my picture was used in a n article :P
13:08.37Pkekyo|thul: linkage?
13:09.01BrunersPolarina: so you didnt delete it afterall?
13:09.01Fisker-obvious troll is obviouuuuuuuuuus Polarina
13:09.28PolarinaBruners: No, but it was really close I did... I can't even believe it..
13:09.30Pkekyo|sorry to say, but I'll have to side with Fisker- here
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13:10.31Fisker-if you were about to delete your character because you thought that you had to write "DELETE" to stop the deletion of your character then you should play russian roulette with a non-chambered gun
13:10.59sbnevcairiel: wtb guild position module *hides* :p
13:11.17nevcairielsb: use guildmap
13:11.19thulPkekyo|: hmmm
13:11.25thulPkekyo|: two sec
13:11.28thulnyhetsblikket.no
13:11.30thulthe first article
13:11.33thul:-D
13:11.46Pkekyo|weird url
13:11.53Pkekyo|oh, that one?
13:12.00Pkekyo|you managed to sell that one?! :p
13:12.00thulthe berries
13:12.00thulyeah
13:12.02Fisker-how does mapster look liek nevcairiel :O?
13:12.04thul:-D
13:12.07Fisker-and is it usuable?
13:12.20nevcairielmapster doesnt have a look
13:12.25Pkekyo|not credited for photography though :<
13:12.25nevcairielit just changes the worldmap
13:12.25Fisker-:O?
13:12.28Pkekyo|what'd you get for it? :p
13:12.53thulPkekyo|: crdited in the article
13:12.55thulat the bottom
13:13.11CIA-4803saroz * r58956 10MementoMori/MementoMori.lua:
13:13.11CIA-48MementoMori:
13:13.11CIA-48- Take screenshot if you are dead when a boss dies.
13:13.17thulnot much :-( 300 + 0,10 pr digital use or something, my brother set it up for me :-P
13:13.33Fisker-so nevcairiel how is it vs. cartographer?
13:13.36Fisker-totally different?
13:13.38Pkekyo|wtb your brother lol
13:13.54Pkekyo|it's a decent price though
13:14.06Pkekyo|just hope they use it alot ;>
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13:14.14thulmhm, it is ok I think
13:14.15thulhehe
13:14.15thulyeah
13:14.59Pkekyo|I've got loads of pictures I wanna sell
13:15.03cncfanaticswould this piece of code work ? (ace3) http://www.pastebin.ca/866201
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13:15.11Pkekyo|noone to sell it to though
13:15.45Pkekyo|can't be arsed to mail -all- my photos to every newspaper and magazine there is though :p
13:16.36cncfanaticsanyone that cba looking at my code ? :p
13:17.14Pkekyo|not really :p
13:17.15thulhehe
13:17.19thulhaha
13:17.22thulis it python? :-P
13:17.25Ellipsisdepencies?
13:17.26Ellipsiso.O
13:17.56cncfanaticsEllipsis, most fb modules got tons of depencies :p this will add real support for em
13:18.03cncfanaticsinstead of having to mess with the toc
13:18.07Ellipsisby which you mean...dependencies?
13:18.12Kivin... I think she was commenting on your spelling
13:18.15Kivin^
13:18.27cncfanaticsfor example, the buffdur module depends on the event module , the button module and the textsubs module
13:18.33Fisker-baww?
13:18.36Ellipsisit's a good thing you've got your looks, cnc
13:18.36Ellipsis:P
13:18.40cncfanatics:p
13:19.45cncfanaticsdepencies == dependencies btw, both are in a dictionary :p
13:21.03Ellipsis~dict depencies
13:21.15Ellipsis~dict dependencies
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13:21.32Ellipsisyour move, cncfanatics. :P
13:21.50Pkekyo|^^
13:21.51CIA-4803hegarol * r58957 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
13:21.51CIA-48AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
13:21.51CIA-48- New TCG loot
13:21.53cncfanatics~google depencies
13:21.59cncfanaticsenough people writing it like that :p
13:22.12Pkekyo|well, they (you) need to be depansified
13:22.26cncfanaticsanyway, is the code right ?
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13:22.31cncfanaticsI'll make it dependencies if you want :)
13:23.57Pkekyo|you and your pansy-red boots
13:23.57thulNo definitions were found for depencies.
13:23.57thulSuggestions:
13:23.57thul- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
13:23.57thul- Search the Web for documents that contain " depencies"
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13:23.57thuli think the "spelled correctly" is the right option here
13:23.57thul:-P
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13:24.06thulimagine what i can do Ellipsis, I got both my looks AND my brain
13:24.14Ellipsisthul: and apparently a gf :(
13:24.18cncfanaticsthul, try talking french as well as me
13:24.19cncfanaticsor dutch
13:24.28cncfanaticsgot 3 language, sorry if I mess em up sometimes :p
13:24.32cncfanaticslanguages*
13:24.40thuldobry djen
13:24.57thulguten tag
13:24.57thulgod dag
13:24.57thulasahlamo alacheum
13:25.04cncfanaticsthats german
13:25.07cncfanaticsnot dutch
13:25.15[Liquidor]Rofl at this commercial: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSBCIV1zuQ
13:25.15cncfanaticsmind actualy knowing what you speak ? :p
13:25.18thulrussian, german, norwegian AND arab :-P
13:25.19Ellipsishm
13:25.25thuland i did notsay that it was dutch :()
13:25.30Ellipsisyay for unlabeled CDs
13:25.43cncfanaticsenglish, dutch, french, spanish/portuguese :)
13:25.53Pkekyo|kankermoeder!
13:25.55cncfanaticsmy spanish & portuguese are mediocre though
13:25.58CIA-4803hegarol * r58958 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/TextParsing.lua):
13:25.58CIA-48AtlasLoot:
13:25.58CIA-48- New TCG loot
13:26.04thulEllipsis: having a gf has it's advantages :(
13:26.20PolarinaIs Ace3 in beta?
13:26.48cncfanaticsPolarina: kind of
13:27.06Ellipsisthul: not for the girls around you :P
13:27.17PolarinaI want to learn it since I've never used Ace before (For creating addons, that is)
13:27.18cncfanatics<--- has no gf :p
13:27.42Ellipsishush cncfanatics, you can't spell ;P
13:28.00cncfanaticsEllipsis: you are allowed to say that when you can spell dutch & french as well as I can spell english
13:28.13Pkekyo|rofl
13:28.22Ellipsisyes I am
13:28.34Ellipsisbecause I am american and we don't learn no foreign-speak 'round these parts
13:28.44cncfanaticsQQ more :)
13:28.50cncfanaticslazy americans ftw
13:29.03PolarinaIt's relatively easy to write english with correct spelling, grammar is a different story.
13:29.16Pkekyo|meh
13:29.22Pkekyo|grammar's not that hard either tbh
13:29.26thulcncfanatics: i speak and write english, german and norwegian :-P
13:29.32Pkekyo|just have to get it beaten through your thick skull enough times :p
13:29.35cncfanaticsthul: you aren't a lazy american though ?
13:30.01Pkekyo|I read/speak french, norwegian, english, swedish and some german :p
13:30.08EllipsisPolarina: you kinda proved your own point there with that comma splice ;P
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13:30.42cncfanaticsswedish ain't a language tbh
13:30.55Ellipsisyes it is
13:30.59Pkekyo|oh yes it is...great language for cursing at people :D
13:31.03Ellipsisstfu :<
13:31.07ZiconWhat is it if it's not a language?
13:31.16Zicon*Swedish* is great for cursing? o_O
13:31.18cncfanaticsZicon: some anoyance that everyone on my server speaks
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13:31.21cncfanaticsfrench is the best language to curse people with imo
13:31.26Pkekyo|yes, Zicon? :)
13:31.36ZiconI'm partial to german when it comes to cursing...
13:31.44Ziconpkekyo|: Explain, please.
13:31.51Pkekyo|do you understand swedish?
13:31.54ZiconYes.
13:32.04cncfanatics:o, great song: over the hills and far away :)
13:32.28Pkekyo|to this day I haven't found an expression on par with "bögiga fittjävlar" :)
13:32.41cncfanaticsafter that i'll probably download some torrents from sweden, and listen to a swedish band, booo :(
13:33.03ZiconThat's an awesome expression for making people go o_O, not so sure about it's value as cursing. :P
13:33.09ZiconIts, even.
13:33.32Pkekyo|Zicon: when combined with other swedish words, it can make quite impressive phrases tbh :p
13:33.58ZiconRight.
13:34.32Pkekyo|never ceise to amaze swedish tourists at the store ^^
13:34.59Ellipsisyou are very bad people.
13:35.06Pkekyo|Ellipsis: whyes? :<
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13:37.05Pkekyo|cncfanatics: hit me with the best french curseword you know
13:37.46cncfanaticsPkekyo|: I'm kind of coding
13:37.58cncfanaticsif you want nice french curseword, go look at the matrix :p
13:38.00Pkekyo|excuses...
13:38.02cncfanaticsthere's a prime example in there
13:38.05Pkekyo|and no
13:38.21cncfanaticsever saw those movies ?
13:38.24Pkekyo|yes
13:38.32Pkekyo|not going to do it again
13:38.37thulfrench is a bit sad :P
13:38.45cncfanaticsduring the second one u'll get a prime example of french cursing :p
13:38.48thulmatrix 2 nand 3 too
13:38.54thulbut that is so :-P
13:39.10Pkekyo|only french phrase I've heard that's even remotely negative translates to "holy blue" >.<
13:39.41thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245307184-X2.jpg
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13:40.37Pkekyo|thul: is it just me, or is that pic highly grainy?
13:41.00Pkekyo|what camra did you use?
13:41.59thulanon 30d
13:42.14thulpushed 1-2 stops
13:42.20thulso, therefore grainy
13:42.22CIA-4803camulos * r58959 10AutoFIR/ (. AutoFIR.lua embeds.xml):
13:42.22CIA-48AutoFIR:
13:42.22CIA-48- fix errors with TabletLib and AutoFIR as standalone addon without fubar
13:42.23CIA-48- fix dependencies in embeds.xml
13:42.23CIA-48- fix errors in svn:externals tag
13:42.25Pkekyo|oh
13:42.50Pkekyo|heard the canon d-series were good for nighttime/low-light photography
13:43.05thulit is
13:43.16thulthat is a small crop of a high-iso omage which is also pushed :-P
13:44.04Pkekyo|I hate high iso values
13:44.14thulhehe
13:44.39vithoschromatic noise sucks, and so does noise reduction
13:44.42Pkekyo|were looking for high-res wallpapers last night...a bloody nightmare! "let's take sunset photos with 1600 ISO!!!!!!111"
13:45.00thulhaha
13:45.20Pkekyo|hunting down the photographers was rather tempting tbh :p
13:45.41thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245308045-X3.jpg <- low iso
13:46.03Pkekyo|f-stop?
13:46.11Pkekyo|cool shot btw
13:47.33CIA-4803celellach * r58960 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua:
13:47.33CIA-48AtlasLoot:
13:47.33CIA-48- Fixed some "back" issues
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13:51.43CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58961 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Commit some Add Route stuff
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13:54.16Pkekyo|ace3?
13:54.59Pkekyo|it released yet?
13:55.18Stan_we do get this question like every 2 hours
13:55.41Stan_nooooo it's in beta
13:55.56[Liquidor]released yet?
13:56.12Pkekyo|lol
13:56.19Ellipsishow about now?
13:56.25[Liquidor]released yet?
13:56.41Stan_^^
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13:57.09Pkekyo|now then?
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13:58.23Pkekyo|so...ace3 bettar than rock?
13:58.35[Liquidor]Who cares?
13:58.38[Liquidor]Use what you want
13:58.50Stan_Pkekyo|: http://wowace.com/wiki/Differences_in_Philosophy_between_Ace3_and_Rock
13:58.54Stan_go decide for yourself
13:59.06Pkekyo|~dict hewn
14:01.35thulPkekyo|: thanks, I think it is.. f.4.5
14:02.25PolarinaEllipsis: How did I prove my point?
14:03.02Ellipsis...
14:03.16Ellipsis[5:30:53 am] <Polarina> It's relatively easy to write english with correct spelling, grammar is a different story.
14:03.23Ellipsisthat's incorrect grammar in itself
14:03.51PolarinaEllipsis: What is wrong with it?
14:03.57Ellipsislike I said, it's a comma splice
14:04.02Ellipsisit's two sentences, not one
14:04.06PolarinaWhat's that?
14:04.17Ellipsisit means you took two sentences and stuck them together with a comma in between
14:04.31Ellipsiswhere you really should have made them two separate sentences, or at least used a semicolon to separate them
14:04.36Pkekyo|"It's relatively easy to write english with correct spelling. Grammar is a different story." bettar? :p
14:04.42Ellipsisexactly :)
14:04.50PolarinaEllipsis: Is this better?: "It's relatively easy to write english with correct spelling; Grammar is a different story."
14:05.00Ellipsiswell, yes, except that you wouldn't capitalize grammar there :)
14:05.14sbSaroz: mh - are there plans to make more sRF config options? (e.g. background, healthbar class-colored)
14:05.23PolarinaEllipsis: Microsoft does that in their .NET framework documentations.
14:05.33Ellipsiswell microsoft, contrary to popular belief, is not always right
14:05.47Ellipsisparticularly when it comes to the grammar in their technical documentation
14:05.49Polarina:)
14:06.08cncfanaticsmicrosoft is not always right particularly when it comes to everything:s
14:06.38Pkekyo|bitter much? :p
14:08.00thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245308194-X3.jpg <- hmm
14:09.07Pkekyo|cool shot
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14:09.27Pkekyo|please tell me that bird crashed into you? :p
14:09.56thulPkekyo|: hehe, no  :P
14:09.58Pkekyo|hm...why is there a knife in my bag of nachos? >.<
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14:10.30thulhahaha
14:10.32Pkekyo|objectdock is full ofw in and awesome tbh :)
14:10.35thulbeacause you are one sick fuck
14:10.40thul:-P
14:10.49Pkekyo|no I'm not :<
14:10.55Pkekyo|nevermind, who am I kidding
14:12.43thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245308535-X3.jpg <- Pkekyo|
14:12.46thulwallpaper for you
14:12.50Pkekyo|"Piracy is a crime. Don't steal ships!"
14:12.53VulcanusEllipsis, that is incorrect. "Grammar is a different story" is not a self-supporting sentence due to the fact that without reading the previous sentence, it makes no sense in and of its own. At least that's what we learnt in both Norwegian and English class; a sentence should always make sense in its own regardless of context.
14:13.06Pkekyo|wrong aspect ratio AND resolution :p
14:13.31Pkekyo|Vulcanus: you're a norse tosser too?
14:13.41PolarinaAce3 has so clean API. :P
14:13.44VulcanusKjeft du a :p
14:13.54Pkekyo|too many bloody norwegians here :P
14:13.59EllipsisVulcanus: right, which is why the semicolon was appropriate
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14:14.18VulcanusBut he re-posted it with a period, which you said was correct.
14:14.28thultherefore, we have to burn Ellipsis
14:14.29Ellipsisit's correct grammar, but questionable style
14:14.31thulshe is a WITCH!
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14:14.48Pkekyo|no she's not...to this day I still haven't seen her do any magic tricks :p
14:14.49PolarinaWithcburning Limited.
14:15.06Pkekyo|which reminds me...I should become a magician...sod school!
14:15.08EllipsisPkekyo|: yes well wait until tomorrow
14:15.15Ellipsisbecause I'm going to pull off a really neat disappearing act
14:15.20Pkekyo|rofl
14:15.31Ellipsisno srsly, I won't be on IRC for a bit :(
14:15.41Pkekyo|awmagawd how will we survive? O.o
14:15.49thulEllipsis: where are you going?
14:15.58thulI have been off irc for two weeks
14:16.01thulit is.. hard
14:16.01thulit is.. :(
14:16.04Ellipsisyou'll just have to make a puppet that looks like me and talks like me
14:16.10Ellipsisthul: I'm running away~
14:16.16Pkekyo|Ellipsis: howto?
14:16.20VulcanusFROM THE TROUBLES IN YOUR LIFEEEEE
14:16.24thulEllipsis: how/why/where? :-P
14:16.28Ellipsisnot so much from as with
14:16.31thulcan i have your american visa?
14:16.32Ellipsiswith ckknight, that is
14:16.40Vulcanus:O
14:16.44VulcanusYou're cheating on us?
14:16.47PolarinaHow come that I can only find the API documentation for AceDB-3.0?
14:16.47Ellipsisyep
14:16.50Ellipsissorry to break it to you Vulcanus
14:16.57Vulcanus;_;
14:16.59Vulcanus<PROTECTED>
14:17.26Pkekyo|it's "/wrist", not "/emo" >.<
14:17.30thulEllipsis: so.. visum? :-P
14:19.19Pkekyo|thul: l2takephotosin16:10
14:19.26cncfanaticsPolarina: the rest ain't written yet :(
14:19.38thulPkekyo|: why? :-P
14:19.46Pkekyo|so it fits my monitor :p
14:19.56Polarinacncfanatics: :(
14:20.04thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245308535-O.jpg <- Pkekyo| cut it yourself :-P
14:20.19Pkekyo|thul: BAH
14:20.40Polarinathul: It's a painting!
14:21.31Pkekyo|Polarina: what is?
14:21.47PolarinaPkekyo|: That picture thul linked.
14:21.53thulno :-P
14:22.07Pkekyo|no it's not
14:22.27PolarinaIf it's not, it's a low quality camera you got.
14:22.27Pkekyo|"Sleep tight, and don't let the bed bugs put a foot in your ass" lmao
14:22.30thulhaha
14:22.34thullow quality camera? :-P
14:22.39Polarinathul: Yes.
14:22.46thulinfact
14:22.46thulI am
14:22.57EllipsisPolarina: what are you talking about? it looks quite photo-like to me
14:23.26thulit is iso800, the grain might confuse her/him
14:23.27PolarinaEllipsis: Zoom in to 100% view.
14:23.31Ellipsis...I did
14:23.38EllipsisI'm not a failure at viewing images, thank you
14:23.49PolarinaEllipsis: Then what is it?
14:23.52Ellipsisyou're the one who thinks a very nice photo is a painting and/or taken with a low quality camera
14:24.07thulPolarina: it is iso800
14:24.14thulwhich makes digital grain.
14:24.15Polarinathul: That is?
14:24.16Pkekyo|low-light conditions + high iso is not supposed to produce crisp photos
14:24.20Pkekyo|~wiki ISO
14:24.23thulhmm
14:24.35Pkekyo|gah, wrong iso
14:24.43thulPolarina: let me see..a digital image is taken using a digital sensor
14:24.53thuliso 100 (or 200 in some new nikon cameras) is where this sensor is most sensitive
14:25.03thulor.. not most sensitive.. it hash ighest image quality
14:25.29thulbut if you want hgher amounts of light sensitivity, you can up the iso, the camera then pushes more power into the image sensor, which ammplifies light, but also noise
14:25.35thulmuch like the iso function in old film images
14:25.49thulexcuse my grammar AND my language, Iam typing on a laggy ssh connection :-P
14:26.28Ellipsis...
14:28.11Pkekyo|anyone got ten minutes or so to spare? :p
14:28.14thulhmm
14:28.49cncfanaticsthul: WTB ssh proxy
14:28.50cncfanaticsa fast one though
14:30.15Pkekyo|noone? :<
14:30.17dre^dreamhost ;)
14:30.23dre^(cnc)
14:30.32thulhehe
14:30.35thulthis one is nice
14:30.43dre^cncfanatics: even their minimal accounts provide ssh access
14:30.52thulI'm just on a very stupid wireless hotell network in egypt
14:30.56thuleller Gouna to be spesific
14:30.58dre^so you can so reverse tunnels or socks proxies to your hearts content
14:31.04dre^s/so/do/
14:31.09Ellipsislol @ eller
14:31.14thul:-(
14:31.17dre^wow purl!
14:31.19dre^that's kicakss
14:31.21thul"el" gets longified to "eller"
14:31.24thul:-P
14:31.29thulEllipsis: thank you :-)
14:31.33dre^clearly my regex was not explicit enough
14:31.41Ellipsisdre^: you're cute. have my babies?
14:31.52dre^Ill need to see pictures first ;)
14:31.57thulI have set up my irssi to match my 14-year old thulisms
14:32.04Ellipsisdre^: that can be arranged ;P
14:32.29thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245311086-X2.jpg
14:32.33thulpictures
14:32.34thulahoy
14:32.38thulnot the right sort I guess
14:32.39thulbut still
14:32.40dre^really want to go to bed, but I've been waiting like 6 hours on this GM ticket... can't stop now!
14:33.10dre^they should have a 'save my spot, but I gotta go for now' option
14:33.12Ellipsisdon't worry, you have time for a nap
14:33.21dre^well I've already received the first escalation
14:33.30thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245313501-X2.jpg
14:33.34Ellipsisit's the middle of the night, nobody in their right minds is working at blizz right now
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14:33.49thulmiddle of the night WHERE?!
14:33.49dre^so there's no quota of GMs to be on duty?
14:33.50thulHUH?!
14:33.52thul:-P
14:34.02Pkekyo|shame norway doesn't have a tradition of toiletpapering houses :p
14:34.15Ellipsisthul: in blizz's time zone ;)
14:34.22Recluse6:30am at bliz
14:34.28Ziconpkekyo|: We could always start such a tradition... :P
14:34.40Ellipsisthat's the middle of the night for geeks who don't get up before noon
14:34.41Ellipsisso there
14:34.48Pkekyo|Zicon: can't be arsed :<
14:35.14dre^I won the Avalanche Leggings from ZA earlier tonight... well, yesterday at this point... but they didn't land in my bags. right when the network problems start happening. for the ultra bored / curious, I have documented this in pictoral form: http://dreness.com/legs.jpg
14:35.16thulhehe
14:35.42thulPkekyo|: i like tits
14:36.00Pkekyo|thul: congrats? :)
14:36.02Ellipsisdre^: nevermind my earlier statement, you play a shaman
14:36.22dre^lol, so let's see... that makes you... either a hunter or... maybe a rogue
14:36.24thulhahahaha
14:36.30Ellipsislol, right
14:36.30thulhunter elli
14:36.31thulfo sho
14:36.32thulor mage?
14:36.33Ellipsislike I'd be that fail
14:36.34dre^nice!
14:36.39dre^oh dang
14:37.01dre^well then why do you hate resto shaman when you typically munch us with ease?
14:37.06Ellipsis?
14:37.08Pkekyo|damnit Ellipsis, beat me to the punch
14:37.10EllipsisI don't PvP
14:37.14thul<- rogue
14:37.14thul:-(
14:37.17thulwithout being fail
14:37.18thul<- ench shaman too
14:37.23EllipsisI hate shamans because they're dirty horde and should stay on the other faction where they belong
14:37.24thulAND paladin:P
14:37.28dre^haha
14:37.28thulhahaha
14:37.32thulnerdyellipsis
14:37.34Ellipsisplus I only know one shaman who doesn't fail at life
14:37.35Ellipsisso
14:37.35dre^fair enough. for what it's worth, I agree
14:37.47Gnarfozwhat's a "ench shaman"
14:37.48thulI don't fail at life Ellipsis  :-P
14:37.49Pkekyo|someone donate 10 minutes of their time to charity plx? :p
14:37.52dre^but we get to keep pallies
14:37.53Gnarfoz~fail thul
14:37.54purlthul: Fail.
14:37.54thulGnarfoz: enhancement
14:38.05Ellipsisdre^: take 'em, ours seem to think they can be dps anyway
14:38.11dre^haha, *nod*
14:38.37thulpalas: prot/heal, shamans: melee/heal, druids: tank/dps/heal
14:38.42thulanyone see a problem here? :-(
14:38.48dre^ele shaman are sweet too
14:39.01dre^serious burst dps potential
14:39.02thulnot in pve?
14:39.06dre^sure in pve
14:39.14thulwell...
14:39.15dre^I mean, who doens't like bloodlust?!?
14:39.16thulEJ say "nay"
14:39.33thulanyhow, girlfriendcuccdletime
14:39.41dre^totems are a straight pain in teh butt, but that's the shaman's problem
14:39.42Ellipsis/jealous
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14:40.44Reclusei'd be satisfied if totems had a 'totem specific GCD' instead of activiating the real GCD
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14:43.59dre^yeah no doubt
14:44.10dre^in pve it's fine cause ther'es time to set up... in pvp it's horrible
14:44.32dre^6 seconds of combat time just to get my buffs up, no good
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14:45.45Pkekyo|then you should learn not to be so bloody dependant on totems :)
14:46.04p1what even am i looking for when target starts casting a spell
14:46.11p1event*
14:46.33dre^they're more for the others than for me
14:46.56dre^it's a matter of being able to be maximally useful / relevant as a group member
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14:47.27Pkekyo|not in pvp it's not :p
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14:47.36dre^sure it is
14:47.39dre^windfury? heh
14:47.49Pkekyo|unless you mean arenas...in which you should have more than enough time to set up tbh
14:48.23dre^ya, if you don't get rushed. if you do get rushed, you will be on totem #2 or #3 by the time you need to start healing
14:48.44jkwAnyone but me have huge problems with latest rev of Recount?
14:48.45dre^which isn't horrible, but also not as nice as buffing everything before the round starts, hehe
14:48.52Pkekyo|if you get instarushed, your opponents are twats and you should be able to beat them either way :)
14:49.21dre^unless perhaps you just played that team and they know a rush is teh right tactic cause they lost a long battle in teh previous round
14:49.23thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245309399-XL.jpg <- I look weird anyway Ellipsis :-P        n
14:49.39Ellipsiso.o
14:49.48EllipsisSCARY PICTAR
14:50.50Pkekyo|thul: what you smoking? :p
14:52.22dre^jkw: have you tried the recount fork?
14:52.22thulhaha
14:52.34dre^jkw: somebody forked it to start prepping for 2.4
14:52.35thulwater pipe:P
14:52.40Pkekyo|wicked
14:53.00thulcost me 85 nok
14:53.04thul:-P
14:53.12dre^jkw: looking at his notes at least, he seems to be fixing a ton of other crap too
14:53.37Pkekyo|85?! wtf, share
14:53.43dre^well now that we're showing pics of smoking...
14:54.16thulonly self portrait from the vacation:P
14:54.18CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58962 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Add confirm popup for route deletion
14:54.22Chompersgot a link to that recount branch?
14:54.31dre^it's called recount continued
14:54.44Chompersoh, the dude got svn access few days ago
14:57.35dre^slightly more incriminating: http://dreness.com/gallery/albums/amsterdam/IMG_1089.jpg
14:57.52dre^stupid gallery broke a while ago, so don't try to browse cause it won't work!
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14:59.22KreigerHey guys. i'm having trouble getting WAU to work..
14:59.24Kreigerany ideas?
14:59.46Kreigeri get a network socket error.
14:59.51jkwdre^: Ah! That explains stuff. I miss it though ;/
15:00.01Kreigeri'm running version 1.9.45.718
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15:00.38dre^the 'old' version of recount still seems to be working fine for me though
15:01.25Pkekyo|bloody hell, someone donate 15minutes of their time plx :p
15:01.30jkwdre^: Which rev do you use?
15:01.38[Liquidor]Pkekyo| ?
15:01.48Pkekyo|[Liquidor]: need to interview someone about piracy xD
15:01.50dre^well I was gonna check, but MacAceUpdater crahses at launch cause some RSS server is down... so lemme crack open the files
15:01.56Pkekyo|can't be arsed to go out and find anyone
15:02.00KreigerAre any of you having trouble connecting to WAU or files.wowace.com?
15:02.04Kreigeri can't connect to them
15:02.07EllipsisPkekyo|: I'll trade you 15 mins of my time doing whatever it is you need for an hour of you doing the stuff I need done :P
15:02.11dre^Pkekyo|: I know all about piracy. Used to be one, inf act...
15:02.30[Liquidor]I'm a pirate, interview me.
15:02.31dre^of the software variety, not of the high sees variety
15:02.37Pkekyo|Ellipsis: wait...what?
15:02.41*** join/#wowace InSAT (n=marco@host190-125-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
15:02.43Ellipsisyou heard me!
15:02.43Ellipsismy time is valuable
15:02.46EllipsisI have the boobies, I set the prices
15:02.48KreigerEllipsis?
15:02.50Kreigerdre^?
15:02.52Kreigeryou guys here?
15:02.53Pkekyo|"Piracy is a crime, don't steal ships!" <-- think that'll be the headline :p
15:02.59KreigerAm i invisible?
15:03.00dre^r58615
15:03.04FtH|Daemonahmmm the frFR update to Deadened broke the mod.
15:03.09dre^Kreiger: ya I hear you
15:03.15[Liquidor]Kreiger, nope
15:03.21dre^yes, it's broken
15:03.23Pkekyo|Kreiger: your suspicions are correct
15:03.42Kreigerok. so how do i reverse the borking that the borked WAU did to me? lol
15:03.43Pkekyo|Ellipsis: that's a bad working rate tbh
15:03.44[Liquidor]Kreiger, #wau
15:03.53KreigerOh. soz. didn't know about that
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15:04.14Fathelli?
15:04.15Fat*hello?
15:04.19Pkekyo|hi
15:04.19EllipsisPkekyo|: sorry bud, you find another girl on IRC willing to work for less and you can have her ;D
15:04.21[Liquidor]hello?
15:04.32Fatcan anyone help me
15:04.32Pkekyo|rofl Ellipsis, don't need a girl, just a pirate
15:04.35Pkekyo|~asktoask
15:04.36purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
15:04.46Fatcool
15:04.54thulPkekyo|: interview me :-P
15:04.59Fathow do you fire a buff when your addon is clicked?
15:04.59EllipsisPkekyo|: you are kinkier than I thought
15:05.02Pkekyo|[Liquidor]: were you a seapirate or a cyberpirate? :p
15:05.04Fative been looking at the APO
15:05.08Fat*API
15:05.14thulI'm a piracy posterboy
15:05.15Fatand it says cast spell is protected?
15:05.19[Liquidor]Seapirate is me Yarr
15:05.21Fatyet decursive is able to do it
15:05.23EllipsisPkekyo|: if you want me to wear an eyepatch, fine, but the peg leg thing? you're gonna need to buy me a few drinks first
15:05.30Pkekyo|bwahahah
15:05.31dre^the only good software pirates are reformed software pirates
15:05.39Pkekyo|Ellipsis: will look into that later
15:05.40thulsexy, handsome, smart AND interested in real politics... at the same time as I download music AND buy music
15:05.43thulI'm the perfect subject :-P
15:05.53Pkekyo|ok, I'll /msg you nublet
15:06.06EllipsisFat: to cast spells securely you'll need to use a secure template
15:06.22[Liquidor]Fat, want to sue Decursive or what is your question?
15:06.42Fatno
15:06.48Fatim asking how you make an addon cast a bugg
15:06.50Fat*buff
15:06.51*** join/#wowace Kazie (n=k@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk)
15:07.42Ellipsismat_de_b: http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview
15:07.47KazieCan someone explain to me how come i sometimes have a million textures to choose from and other times i only have like 10?
15:07.55Fisker-awesome Ellipsis
15:07.58Kaziein my ace addons.. such as Pitbull and stuff
15:08.18[Liquidor]SharedMediaLib Kazie
15:08.24Kazieis that it? ..
15:08.49Ellipsisyes, addons can register textures with the lib, and if those addons aren't running next time you look for the textures, their textures won't be listed
15:09.23Kazieaha.. nice... i think ^^
15:09.37Ellipsisspecifically, the one that supplies the most is SharedMedia
15:09.39KazieSo .. there's a bunch of sharedmedia something in the WAU.. which one to choose?
15:09.45dre^fat: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34224257
15:10.18[Liquidor]Kazie, just think of 1 addon listing all textures used by other addons. Sometimes some addon adds additional textures into the list, so if you uninstall/disable that addon the textures on the list will be gone as well
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15:10.26mat_de_bdre
15:10.29mat_de_bit just says welcome
15:10.43KazieYe i figured.. alot of ace addons share stuff ^^ ..
15:11.11kalahassimy WAU cant get a connection, is this serverrelated or due to an update i made half an hour ago?
15:11.14dre^hmm... maybe http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34224257  (without the session ID)
15:11.30[Liquidor]Kazie, LibSharedMedia-2.0 and SharedMedia-2.0
15:11.33dre^oh wait. no session ID On teh last one, sorry
15:11.34Ellipsisyou trimmed the session ID the first time, dre^ :P
15:11.38dre^haha
15:11.42Ellipsisjinx! ^-^
15:11.51dre^what can I say, stupid GMs are keeping me up...
15:11.56Kazie[Liquidor]: Okay.. thx :) .. is there any way to see what addons that sharedmedia is a dependency for?
15:12.12EllipsisKazie: it shouldn't be a dependency for anything
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15:12.40Ellipsisif you mean which addons make use of it, probably anything you get from wowace that uses bar textures, borders, etc.
15:12.42Kaziehmm.. maybe that changed then.. i just remember that i once downloaded an Ace addon that needed sharedmedialib to run ;)
15:12.57Ellipsisthe only one that should *need* SML is SM
15:13.06Ellipsisbut that's because it does nothing without SML :P
15:13.08[Liquidor]Kazie, sharedmedia is just a tool... Most of the bigger addons using textures and fonts got a reader for SharedMedia
15:13.12mat_de_bthats it ty
15:13.19CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58963 10Mapster/GroupIcons.lua: Mapster: GroupIcons: make groupicons work on the mini zone map if not in raids
15:13.37Ellipsisnow stop distracting me, people :(
15:13.40EllipsisI has stuff to do!
15:13.51[Liquidor]Ellipsis, are you a Pirate?
15:14.00Ellipsisno, I prefer ninjas
15:14.00Kazie[Liquidor]: Ahh.. so i guess if an addon uses a texture or font by default that is included in sharedmedia it will return the error message, right?
15:14.15[Liquidor]no
15:14.34Ellipsisaddons should default to a blizz texture or whatever SML has available
15:14.34KazieLol.. my brain doesn't work.. that made perfect sense to me ;D
15:14.41Ellipsisalthough many choose to provide a single default texture
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15:14.54Ellipsisand...some...insist on sticking a whole bunch of textures you don't want in places you don't want them
15:15.12[Liquidor]Let me give you a straight example: agUF (unitframe addon) has a small amount of textures within. If you install SML, agUF will include SML's textures into agUF. Get it?
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15:15.37Pkekyo|Ellipsis: I thought that was what end users did? :P
15:15.59CIA-4803rabbit * r58964 10GuildMap/ (. GuildMap.lua GuildMap.toc GuildMap.xml localization.lua): GuildMap: The old "clean, fix and tune".
15:16.00[Liquidor]Half of SML's textures are useless anyway :)
15:16.04KazieI get that.. i just didn't/don't get how i needed SML to run an addon some time ago :) .. it returned loads of errors messages saying something about SML untill i installed SML ^^
15:16.24EllipsisKazie: then it was poorly coded :)
15:16.27[Liquidor]indeed
15:16.28[Liquidor]that's bad
15:16.32Kazie[Liquidor]: true dat... specially the ones with all the crazy GFX things.. IMO ;)
15:16.57dre^WoW needs an in-game mod manager / dependency resolver thingamabob
15:17.00KazieEllipsis: I surpose it was ^^ .. but who am i to judge the coding hehe.. i'm just a UI maniac making da 1337 UIs ;D
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15:17.28Ellipsisdre^: and what's wrong with the char screen addon list?
15:17.48dre^it can't fetch mods / resolve broken dependancies
15:18.04KazieThat's what you have WAU for ;D
15:18.16dre^that's what I have MacAceUpdater for ;)
15:18.24Ellipsisyou can't fetch addons in-game either way
15:18.25KazieYou make me cry ;D
15:18.36Ellipsisas for broken dependencies, that's the authors' fault, rant at them about it :P
15:18.40dre^yeah I know, shaman AND mac user. I'm like the worst of the worst. or so you might think!
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15:18.49ZarielXinhuan, does Routes work with TourGuide?
15:18.56Xinhuanno
15:19.00p1hey, i remember there being a mod that shows which events are being triggered while playing, can someone pm me the name of it if you know it?
15:19.05KazieShamans are nice.. lvl'ing an alt atm :) .. WF > all ;)
15:19.19Ellipsisdre^: at this point, I am beginning to lose faith in human males entirely
15:19.32dre^good thing I'm a cow
15:19.36Ellipsisconvenient!
15:19.39dre^slash moo bitches!
15:19.40Ellipsisyou can mow my lawn for me :D
15:19.40KazieYe.. Cow > all ;)
15:19.43Zarielp1, DevTools?
15:19.55KazieEllipsis: Lol ^^
15:19.55p1k
15:20.12Ellipsisoh come on Kazie, you'd do it too
15:20.25EllipsisI see an opportunity, I take it - nothing wrong with that...
15:20.27Gngskpl, Kyubi ?
15:20.33KazieOfc ;D
15:20.43dre^my method of mowing the lawn is kiting the combat rogues all around the yard  until it's all cut up. then when I'm done I /shoo, war stomp, poison cleanse, earthbind, and leave
15:21.01dre^works wonders I tell ya
15:21.16Gngskpl, http://tinyurl.com/2649hd
15:21.33KazieMy way of it would more likely be /rasp /Laugh /comfort /cast bubble+hs ;D
15:21.55Ellipsismine would be /cast fear   /retreat
15:21.58dre^except you'd run oom before it was all cut ;)
15:22.13KazieI'm a healbot.. i never go oom :)
15:22.18CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58965 10Mapster/ (Coords.lua GroupIcons.lua): Mapster: add toggle option to group icons module
15:22.24Kaziebesides.. Lay on hands = 900 mana ;D
15:22.26dre^but apparently blizzard wants resto shaman to last forever now with water shield
15:22.34dre^yeah, every hour, heh
15:22.48KazieWell... nobody said it were more than one lawn/hour ;)
15:22.55dre^lol
15:23.09DaemonaGandharva i hope you are working on fixing deadened? you broke it you fix it ;)
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15:23.10dre^that's still a pretty good pace, actually
15:23.27thulacrhhhhg
15:23.32thulI hate egyptian wireless interwebs
15:23.39thulI'm glad I have my 50mbit back tuesday ight :-P
15:23.42Mezir|SemiAFKlol is the download page down or what? o.o
15:23.54dre^l2westerncivilization
15:23.56Kaziei was wondering.. how do you think it would be like to host a lan in a pyramid? ;)
15:24.13[Liquidor]How on earth are you going to test your Arena scripts when you can't even get into the arena? -.- "Time in Queue: 53 Mins 24 Secs"
15:24.23thuldre^: well, tuesday night
15:24.29Kazie[Liquidor]: lol i see your problem there :)
15:24.29thulnorway
15:24.32dre^haha liquidor, try a uh... better time of day ;)
15:24.33thulfixed prices
15:24.36thulinternets
15:24.41thulnormal people
15:24.41thuletc
15:24.43KreigerAnybody have any trouble connecting to files.wowace.com?
15:24.51dre^Kreiger: yah it's boken
15:24.54dre^"borken"
15:24.56Kreiger>_<
15:25.13KreigerHow do i reset my addons to how they were then?
15:25.28dre^restore from a backup? heh
15:25.39thul:Pbokeh
15:25.39thul:P:D
15:25.44KreigerDoesn't WAU save backups?
15:25.47dre^you do perform daily incremental backups like all good computer users, right?
15:26.06KreigerNot on my addons folder. i figured WAU did that.
15:26.13Kreigerbut i MAY be in luck
15:26.14dre^heh I dunno, I don't use wau (I use the mac version which doesn't do any backup stuff, afaik)
15:26.24Kreigerew mac GETITOFF
15:26.25Kreiger<PROTECTED>
15:26.32dre^but at least I have daily incrementals!
15:26.57dre^not to be a fanboy, but the backup stuff built into mac os x 10.5 is really quite awesome
15:27.00KazieI know my format C: .. that's all i need if my computer fucks up ;)
15:27.19[Liquidor]or better: a computer that doesn't fuck up
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15:28.30dre^of course it has a stupid glamorous name that makes people who talk about it sound like idiots, so.. yeah
15:28.30p1wierd, i loaded kyubi... but the registed chat command /kyubi doesn't do anything (i restarted wow)
15:28.30Ellipsisor better: the ability to fix it without breaking everything
15:28.30dre^[Liquidor]: most data loss is due to users not due to computers ;)
15:28.30p1invalid command
15:28.30Kazie[Liquidor]: The risk is always there ^^ ..
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15:28.30[Liquidor]Which is (in my case) why nothing bad happens here <3
15:28.30KazieEllipsis: A format is always a nice cleanup ;)
15:28.53EllipsisKazie: yes well I'd rather not clean up all my useful data :)
15:29.08EllipsisI've got lots of lovely things that wouldn't be easy to replace, you see
15:29.13Ellipsislike those nudes of Pkekyo|
15:29.28KazieEllipsis: Ofc you pull a backup before you pop a format ;)
15:29.48Ellipsisthen why bother formatting?
15:29.57KreigerIs there a way to get updated version of the various wowace addons without files.wowace?
15:29.59Ellipsiswhy not just keep your data and either not break your computer, or fix it cleanly? :P
15:30.24EllipsisKreiger: files.wowace.com is the only zip mirror available atm I believe
15:30.33Ellipsisyou can svn, but that's not recommended (especially for beginners
15:30.34Ellipsis)
15:30.41Kaziei'm too lazy to cleanup in my useless data.. takes me 10 min to format my C:Drive, as it only has Windows on it and nothing else.. and program/games installations will come when i need them ^^
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15:31.10sbnevcairiel? :)
15:31.15nevcairiel?
15:31.16[Liquidor]damn, if my drive crashed now or later I would lose a huuuuge amount of unique data
15:31.43sbnevcairiel: are you going to build some guild position module? ;p
15:31.56Mezir|SemiAFKman, why must the download page be offline when i just have time to build a new interface <_<
15:32.05Kazie[Liquidor]: That's ofc why you have a safety backup drive with a copy of your unique data that are not in use so it does not risk become broken ^^
15:32.14thulhmmWater Shield now restores mana periodically regardless of how many charges remain. Duration increased to 10 minutes. <- means no refreshing of WS?
15:32.15nevcairielsb: maybe later, i thought about trying to listen to Cartographer, but the stupid serialized values suck donkey balls
15:32.40sbhm :)
15:32.46dre^thul: yes, its' now a passive 50 mp5 PLUS procs
15:32.50Mezir|SemiAFKany idea why the page is off or when it will be up again? o.o
15:33.00dre^thul which means it's more potent if you're getting hit than it used to be
15:33.05Mezir|SemiAFKan info would help =/
15:33.16[Liquidor]Mezir|SemiAFK, it's Sunday
15:33.26Mezir|SemiAFKo.o i know that
15:33.30Mezir|SemiAFKand...?
15:33.34thuldre^: nice
15:33.37[Liquidor]You haven't been in Church....
15:33.42thulI'll lvl my lvl 65 shaman later
15:33.42thul:-P
15:33.45Kazielol liquidor ^^
15:33.51dre^thul: yes, it's very nice :) most hunters are better of dismissing their pet to duel me...
15:33.55Mezir|SemiAFK:P what if i say that i was :>
15:34.07KazieThen MentalPower|ZzZz 1 - 0 [Liquidor] ;D
15:34.41Mezir|SemiAFKdurrr need dem addons <_< curse sucks
15:34.48Kazieuse wowace ^^
15:35.03Mezir|SemiAFKyou might not unterstand the problem xD
15:35.15Mezir|SemiAFKthe download page is offline o.o
15:35.22KazieWAU <3
15:35.34dre^pretty sure that wau is broken
15:35.35Mezir|SemiAFKi would if i could, but well, looks like im going to bake a pie or smthn
15:35.55dre^there's an RSS feed that has all the latest info, wau probably checks that when it loads (as the mac version does), and immediately crashes cause the RSS server is offline too
15:35.55Mezir|SemiAFKor...*madsounds*
15:35.58Mezir|SemiAFKplay another game o.o
15:36.01KazieDre^: I'm downloading and updating through wow all the time today .. haven't met any problems so far
15:36.17bigzero~seen hyperChipmunk
15:37.43purlhyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 35d 8h 19m 13s ago, saying: '~improbability'.
15:38.27dre^interesting. then it uses a different mechanic
15:38.27Ellipsisum, no
15:38.27Mezir|SemiAFKanybody got a wii and want to play strikers or smthn against me? :D
15:38.27Ellipsiswau pulls from the files page
15:38.27[Liquidor]PLAY WITH DEFAULT BLIZZARD UI
15:38.27Ellipsisif files is down, wau will not work
15:38.27[Liquidor]fixed
15:38.27Kazieffs.. why do you have to ruin my day? :D .. now it IS down baah
15:38.27Kaziebaah.. well.. anyone got an idea when it'll be up again?
15:38.27Kaziecuz i need da stuff ;)
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15:38.27dre^kazie: try internet archive ;)
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15:38.28KazieNow you're just talking gibberish to meh ;o
15:38.28dre^http://web.archive.org
15:38.30dre^unfortunately there is no recent version cached there
15:38.30Ellipsis....
15:38.30dre^so no good
15:38.40Ellipsisusing an archived version of files.* to update your addons...
15:38.47Ellipsisdo you not see how that defeats the purpose?
15:38.48bigzero~seen sedatedChipmunk
15:39.02purlsedatedchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 41d 14h 57m 23s ago, saying: '/msg hyperChipmunk <yourpassword>'.
15:39.04dre^just set your clock back, it'll be fine :P
15:39.39bigzerodid hC pass away or something?
15:39.44thul~fail
15:39.51purlACTION gives thul the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus!
15:40.13bigzero~fail purl
15:40.15purlpurl: Fail.
15:40.40dre^that's like recursive failure
15:40.42thula minus? anus?
15:41.19bigzero~fail ~fail purl
15:41.20purl~fail purl: Fail.
15:41.22thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245303026-L.jpg <- not sure if I like that image yet
15:41.32bigzerodamn... didn't work
15:42.28[Liquidor]thul, just blue you looking for?
15:44.34dre^so this is probably a noob question, but is there any way to get more action slot IDs?
15:44.47nevcairielno
15:44.49nevcairielyou only have 120
15:45.07dre^figured :/
15:45.08Ellipsisyou can use addons that create buttons without IDs though
15:45.11vithos(but you don't have to use them)
15:45.34dre^hmm... then I guess... what's the difference between a button with an ID and one without?
15:45.44KazieBut well... if you use more than 120 buttons you have some busy interface lol
15:46.00dre^or be a shaman with eleventy billion totems. who likes consumables. and macros.
15:46.21KazieUse a totem addon to spare buttons then..
15:46.32Ellipsisdre^: well, uh, the one that uses IDs uses IDs and the one that doesn't...doesn't
15:46.38dre^I do, and i macro a lot of them also for like right click, etc
15:47.03dre^Ellipsis: but what's the functional use of having an ID? being able to refer to it from another context?
15:47.13dre^e.g. /click ?
15:47.16Ellipsispersonally, I think they're dumb
15:47.27Ellipsishowever they have a few advantages/disadvantages, depending how you think about it
15:47.39Ellipsisone, two buttons can point to the same ID, and share whatever's on the button as it changes, etc.
15:47.45Ellipsistwo, action IDs are stored server-side
15:47.46KazieEllipsis: Everything does ^^
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15:48.31Ellipsisso you don't need your SVs in order to have your buttons where you expect them to be (e.g., using a friend's computer, wiping your SVs to test/fix/clean up something)
15:48.43KazieWhich is rly nice
15:48.48Ellipsisfor some
15:49.00Pkekyo|ohhaipeoples
15:49.02Ellipsispersonally, I want my button layouts to be in SVs with the rest of my addon config stuff
15:49.10Ellipsisso I can port it over easily to other computers/accounts
15:49.17dre^yeah, *nod*
15:49.30KazieI only use my own account so that's no biggy :P hehe
15:49.36nevcairielpersonally, i just want to be able to switch to another comp, and have my bars ready
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15:50.01KazieWhich would make IDs essential for you ^^
15:50.04Ellipsisdre^: if you want to try out something that does the no-IDs buttons, I personally recommend FlexBar2 (though it's config is command line only, so it can be a bit daunting)
15:50.11dre^I use enough mods that it requires some amount of effort to recreate my UI elsewhere, though usually not a lot more than copying WTF
15:50.24[Liquidor]I'd like my keybindings and macros to be stored server-side
15:50.26EllipsisI hear Trinity also has a setting for it, if you want something a bit more user friendly
15:50.30KazieDoesn't trinitybars cut the IDs as well as FlexBar?
15:50.34neoaeonSorry if it's been mentioned, files.wowace.com is generating reset by peer messages?
15:50.42dre^I'm fine with command line. I'm a unix admin by day, heh
15:50.47[Liquidor]neoaeon, down
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15:50.53Ellipsisneoaeon: yes, it's temporarily down, we do not know when it will be fixed, you can live without your updates for a few hours
15:51.15Ellipsiswe promise, you will not explode if your addons are not up-to-the-minute fresh :)
15:51.38neoaeonlol, was actually trying to get ahold of Xloot ;D
15:51.49KazieIs there a alternative place to get RatingBuster, libShareMedia and SharedMedia? :)
15:52.05Kazieneo... i can send you that.. i downloaded the newest Xloot today
15:52.12PolarinaKazie: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/
15:52.29[Liquidor]HF c&p'ing
15:52.43CIA-4803grum 07Ace3 * r58966 10Routes/Routes.lua:
15:52.43CIA-48Routes:
15:52.43CIA-48- Restored parts of the main options table (Waypoints needs work, Auto show/hide needs code behind it)
15:52.47Ellipsisl2svn :P
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15:53.07[Liquidor]:)
15:53.08Kaziehmm.. how does that work exactly? :o
15:53.25[Liquidor]SVN or the page you're looking at?
15:53.27PolarinaKazie: I can fetch you the addon and ZIP it for you, just name me the folder. :)
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15:53.49dbcp69hi. sorry of this has already been asked, but does anyone else have problesm downloading files from wowace?
15:53.50[SW]Dodgewhere to buy a mount in sw?learn riding also xD
15:54.12[Liquidor]dbcp69, temp down
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15:54.15KaziePolarina: The folder on the URL you posted?
15:54.16Pkekyo|"We stole dead fish!
15:54.16Pkekyo|- What are you going to do with it?
15:54.17Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
15:54.17Ellipsisdbcp69: yes, it's down, and no we don't know when it will be back up
15:54.17Polarinadbcp69: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/
15:54.18Pkekyo|rofl
15:54.19dbcp69ok. thanks
15:54.23PolarinaKazie: Yes.
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15:54.45Polarinadbcp69: Name the folder for a addon and I can ZIP it and send it to you.
15:54.46dre^ya'll should seriously /topic ;)
15:54.55Ellipsisdo you see an @ on any of us?
15:55.04dre^well I didn't look, so how could I? ;)
15:55.05Ellipsis[SW]Dodge: the logging camp in elwynn
15:55.22KazieLibSharedMedia-2.0, SharedMedia-2.0 and RatingBuster <-- those would be nice :)
15:55.30PolarinaKazie: One moment.
15:55.37KazieYou can have 2 ;)
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15:55.41[SW]Dodgethanks Ellipsis
15:56.45Kazieppl will seriously have to Migrate from A'A soon :( . freakin' queue at 4:50 already :o
15:56.54thulunix
15:56.56thullunix
15:56.57thulmoha
15:59.50thulbtw, we saw a terrible belly dancer in cairo
15:59.59thulwhe should have spent less money on huge silicone tits
16:00.06thuland more on dance lessons
16:00.06dre^I'd be willing to mirror files.wowace, once it comes back up. Like, officially and able to withstand decent load.
16:00.43KaziePolarina: Ty :)
16:00.43PolarinaKazie: My pleasure.
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16:00.44Fisker-anyone know why the range in the gridrange check doesn't support 40 yards anymore?
16:00.56Ellipsisbecause you touch yourself at night
16:01.05Ellipsisahhh, that felt good, I haven't used that one in a while
16:01.07Fisker-your mother
16:01.13Fisker-haven't use that one in a while either
16:01.18Ellipsisyes you did
16:01.31Ellipsisyou used her all night you filthy liar :o
16:01.32thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245307918-L.jpg < belly dancer
16:01.35Pkekyo|:)
16:01.46Fisker-well your mother is hot
16:01.49cncfanaticsEllipsis: you made me laugh with chips in my mouth
16:01.53thulhmm, I haeven't touched myself in a while
16:01.53cncfanaticswhich resulted in me lacking air :(
16:02.01Ellipsiscncfanatics: my bad...are you dead yet?
16:02.32thul(more like a tit-dancer)
16:02.34EllipsisFisker-: really, if that's what does it for you, great....just please, don't ever give me that mental image, thanks?
16:02.43Fisker-owned
16:02.53Fisker-you made me do it
16:02.59Ellipsisfyi: she's definitely not hot
16:03.06cncfanaticsEllipsis: you're very sympathic today :/
16:03.15neoaeoneveryone is hot from behind
16:03.16Ellipsiscncfanatics: it's because I love you
16:03.17Fisker-guess it runs in the family ololol
16:03.17thulEllipsis + Ellipsis's mother in a requim for a dream doubledildo scene?
16:03.23thulhow is THAT for a mental image? :-P
16:03.29Fisker-MULTI KILL
16:03.30cncfanaticsFisker-: ha, Ellipsis loves me & not you !
16:03.34Fisker-ULTRA KILL
16:03.35Fisker-etc.
16:03.37Fisker-noes :(
16:03.42Ellipsisbrb, shooting myself
16:03.43nevcairielno one loves Fisker-
16:03.47thulhahahahahahhahahah
16:03.49Fisker-you do :(
16:03.50thulI won Fisker- :-P
16:03.53thulworst mental image of the year
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16:04.09robotuschnevcairiel, you can say that again, I've met him IRL ;(
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16:04.16Fisker-your mother robotusch
16:04.20robotuschno
16:04.22Ellipsisrobotusch: I'm very sorry for your pain
16:04.24nevcairielyou poor man
16:04.33Fisker-he doesn't know it
16:04.35thuleverybody loves me
16:04.39Fisker-but i violated him while he was asleep
16:04.41Pkekyo|CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG?!
16:04.48EllipsisPkekyo|: NO U
16:04.56robotuschFisker, the only thing you violated was that poor kid you decided to wrestle
16:05.07Pkekyo|Ellipsis: what me? :<
16:05.18CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58967 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBarPrototype.lua ActionBarStates.lua Bar.lua): Bartender4: cleanups
16:05.20thulanyone else?
16:05.22thulrobotusch?
16:05.23Ellipsisaww thul <3
16:05.28thul:-D
16:05.46Fisker-edrama is so much fun
16:05.59thulhttp://amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0817954422/ref=s9_flash_asin_image_3?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0HVW1MRK1P2H9BGPR90B&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=139289791&pf_rd_i=468294 <- I'm thinking about getting that
16:06.04thulgood idea?
16:06.05CIA-4803rabbit * r58968 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Default to outputting results locally, not in party chat.
16:06.06robotuschno thanks thul, manlove ain't exactly my thing
16:06.20Pkekyo|great idea thul
16:06.30Pkekyo|if you're not a nutcase allread, you certainly will be afterwards :)
16:06.42robotuschwahey, some level 6 pala want to join my guild
16:07.16robotusch:>
16:07.20thulPkekyo|: pfft:P
16:07.29thulanti-governmental literature is great:)
16:07.30Pkekyo|:>
16:07.35thuljust as anti-religious literature is :-D
16:07.42Ellipsissee Pkekyo|, he already is a nutcase
16:07.49Ellipsisit's too late to do anything to stop it
16:07.49jkwwewt bartender4?
16:07.51thulEllipsis: i din't get GF-lovin, she fell asleep when i was nerding :(
16:07.53Ellipsiswhy not encourage him?
16:07.57jkwWhich rock have I been hiding under?
16:08.03thulppppft
16:08.04Ellipsisthul: thou hath failt.
16:08.15thulwel, I just got just-woke-up cuddlenesses
16:08.18thuland those are good too
16:08.19nevcairieljkw: none, thats a development version anod ready
16:08.23thuljust woke-up gf is cute
16:08.42Ellipsiswhat planet do you live on
16:08.42jkwnevcairiel: ah
16:08.44nevcairielanod .. and + not .. wow what a typo :P
16:08.50Pkekyo|Ellipsis: as am I, so what? :p
16:08.51Ellipsisjust woke up is not cute
16:08.58thulEllipsis: that depends:)
16:09.02Ellipsisit's messy hair and puffy eyes and grumpy caffeine cravings!
16:09.08thulwell, that is you:P
16:09.12nevcairiellol
16:09.12Ellipsisoh
16:09.24Ellipsisyou mean other girls wake up looking perfect and happy and wide awake?
16:10.48CIA-4803rabbit * r58969 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Shorten the prefix to just "<SBW>".
16:11.09nevcairiel_another_ bosswhisperer?
16:11.11Pkekyo|I'll have to disagree tbh
16:11.20Pkekyo|several times I have woke up next to the spawn of satan
16:11.24vhaarrit's not another, it's the original
16:11.36vhaarrsomeone decided that my original "BossWhisperer" didn't have enough functions
16:11.41vhaarrand made it into a fubar plugin
16:11.56nevcairielI remember you saying "do what you want, i dun care" .. and here you are re-adding it :P
16:12.01Ellipsiswell it's an addon, so it needs a fubar icon
16:12.02Ellipsisduh
16:12.07thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/245308355-L.jpg - gf in the morning :-P
16:12.23Ellipsisthul, you are so full of it!
16:12.24vhaarrnevcairiel: which is why I add it back as another addon instead of reverting
16:12.32vhaarrbut I did that a LONG time ago, you just haven't noticed it before now
16:12.36vhaarryou slow-noticer-person
16:12.47nevcairieli only look at changelogs of addons i use
16:12.49thulEllipsis: w000t? :-P
16:12.54nevcairielplus, i am bored right now
16:13.08Ellipsisthul: she totally did not just wake up in that pic
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16:13.13vhaarr^^
16:13.33thulactually she did, but only after a 1-2 hour early morning nap :-P
16:13.33Pkekyo|rofl thul, stopp winding up Ellipsis
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16:13.38nevcairielheh
16:13.38Ellipsisexactly
16:13.46Pkekyo|granted, it's entertaining, but the chat goes by so fast :p
16:13.48vhaarrnevcairiel: I only made that crap because people whined about it not being in BW then I abandoned it because I didn't use it myself really, and said that people could do what they wanted
16:13.51thulPkekyo|: I'll stop now :P
16:13.52Ellipsisshe had her makeup done and hair combed and all that good stuff
16:14.05Ellipsisif she falls asleep after that point, it really doesn't count as first thing in the morning anymore
16:14.10vhaarrnevcairiel: lots of people started requesting features in the thread and someone answered by turning it into a fubar plugin
16:14.13nevcairielvhaarr: yeah i remember that, hence my confusion that you did it again
16:14.14thulhaha
16:14.21vhaarrnevcairiel: but then I realised I wanted to use it myself
16:14.24nevcairielheh
16:14.25vhaarrnevcairiel: downloaded it again
16:14.32vhaarrnevcairiel: and saw what kind of an addon it had become
16:14.38vhaarr(bloated and crappy)
16:14.46vhaarrso I made SBW :P
16:14.49Nicolai_Is it just me? or does http://files.wowace.com/ not work?
16:14.54nevcairielI only installed it one to fix a bug one guildmate reported
16:14.57nevcairiel*once
16:15.09Pkekyo|thul: also, if she looks like that first thing in the morning you're one lucky sod
16:15.21nevcairielother then that, i just ignore people that whisper me, or find the time to say that i am busy
16:15.32nevcairielor on boring bosses i start to chat =P
16:15.34thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/gallery/4196863/1/245300300/Medium <- after 3 hour sleep on an egyptian bus ell :P
16:15.36vhaarrP
16:15.36vhaarr:P
16:15.38nevcairielillidan phase1 .. *yaaawn*
16:16.07Fisker-ah
16:16.12Fisker-our hunters have a great set of skills
16:16.25Fisker-for instance the "Pull before anyone is ready"-skill
16:16.31Ellipsisthey can autoshot *and* misdirect onto a healer?
16:16.45thulEllipsis: I'll stop being mean now:P
16:16.51Ellipsisthul: your mom!
16:16.54Ellipsiser, I mean, me too
16:17.06Pkekyo|bwahahahah
16:17.30thulbut I actually like fluffy hair, the confused and cuddly look girls get in the morning :)
16:17.33bigzerocurses!!! time to go back to college where mIRC doesn't work :-( Does freenode support ssl?
16:18.03Ellipsisconfused and cuddly?
16:18.28Lukianbigzero, tunnel out over ssh
16:18.30CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58970 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Committing half done changes
16:19.06bigzeroLukian, yeah, i'll do that. i think freenode has ssl support though
16:19.19Pkekyo|thul: screw you, go wake up with the spawn of satan for a year or two and come back talking about girls in the morning
16:20.33bigzeroLukian, maybe not... their FAQ says they don't
16:20.45PolarinaWoth... This is interesting...
16:21.55thulone just have to give them a large bear hug and ucuddle them
16:21.55thulorirssi
16:21.55thulftw
16:22.00Ellipsis...
16:22.13thulI'm lagging
16:22.14thulok
16:22.15thul:-(
16:22.27Ellipsisthul, you hereby are awarded the title "#wowace failtard of the day"
16:22.33thulPkekyo|: why would I do that?
16:22.40thulI prefer sexy, sweet and always-horny girls.
16:22.48thulspawns of satan is not my cup of tea
16:22.55thulEllipsis: thank you dear :-D I love you too
16:23.05nevcairielhe really is lagging
16:23.11nevcairielonly 20s or so, but still
16:23.23nevcairielhm
16:23.26nevcairielctcp responds :P
16:23.30Pkekyo|thul: sod off, seriously
16:23.31Nicolai_Hello, are you working on files.wowace.com right now`
16:23.32Ellipsishis brain is lagging
16:23.33dre^egypt is pretty far
16:23.33Polarina"-- Randomize location to prevent hacking (yeah right)"
16:23.38Ellipsisthat, or the fact that he's typing over ssh
16:23.44Ellipsisit's probably just typing latency that he's dealing with
16:24.04dre^which is why I've always thought that ssh clients should have a line-buffered mode
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16:24.20dre^alas, none do that I've ever seen
16:24.24nevcairielssh is just secure telnet, char by char .. :p
16:24.37dre^well... it's a bit more than that, but essentially, ya
16:24.37winkillermhm, can't update
16:24.48nevcairielYes we know that the page is down
16:24.51thulPkekyo|: wat? :-P
16:24.56nevcairielvhaarr: make yourself useful for once and update the topic =P
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16:25.01thulmy brain isn't lagging :-(
16:25.04thulyou evil people :-(
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16:25.14thulI'm a nice guy
16:25.16thul:-P
16:25.21Pkekyo|riiiight
16:25.32nevcairielits gettint worse again
16:25.38nevcairiel*getting
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16:26.07*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
16:26.20nevcairielnow that was a helpful change :P
16:26.26vhaarraye
16:26.39Ellipsisthank you vhaarr, you have saved us endless milliseconds of explaining that files.* is down
16:26.47Ellipsisendless? countless
16:26.47nevcairielHe did?
16:26.52vhaarrjeez you're never satisfied are you
16:26.59Pkekyo|:p
16:27.10Ellipsisthis channel is the most demanding relationship you can have
16:27.11*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. | files.wowace.com is down, it'll be up later.
16:27.22Ellipsisand you can't leave - you have the kids to think of
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16:27.50Pkekyo|rofl
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16:28.17thulhmm
16:28.18thulanother girl?
16:28.20thulthis will not end well
16:28.21KazieGief working WAU
16:28.31Ellipsisshe's harmless, she never sticks around long
16:28.43Ericawow what's going on?
16:28.50thulsure ell? :P
16:29.01EllipsisErica: we are talking about you behind your back in front of you!
16:29.04Pkekyo|this is like a bloody sitcom
16:29.08Ericalol
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16:29.21thul"wow" is most likely it, yes :P
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16:30.24thulhmm
16:30.31CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58971 10Mapster/ (Config.lua Coords.lua GroupIcons.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: update .toc and svn props
16:30.49thuladagio, from sonata pathetique
16:30.49thulis so nice
16:30.52thulpiano music soothes my soul
16:32.01Pkekyo|wtb pants with fewer pockets...every time I open one it's like discovering a new continent :p
16:32.03nevcairielSo, quick inquiry, do people need/want removal of the Fog-of-War on the World Map?
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16:32.16vhaarryeah remove it
16:32.29EllipsisI like it, how else am I supposed to know which areas I haven't discovered?
16:32.42nevcairielundiscovered areas could be colored
16:32.46Pkekyo|fog of war sucks frozen donkeyballs
16:32.46nevcairielbut still show the original terrain
16:32.51Pkekyo|agreed
16:32.53Ellipsisnow THAT would be nice
16:32.53EricaYeah I like that better personally
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16:32.56Pkekyo|also, show names on mouseover
16:33.11nevcairielnames on undiscovered areas is too much work to be worth it
16:34.15nevcairieloh well, i'll do that for Mapster then
16:34.30EricaKool name btw
16:35.18PolarinaAnyone knows of any guides / documentation for Ace3 or is it stull just "Read the source then hack it and slash it"?
16:35.46Ellipsishacking and slashing is fun
16:35.47nevcairielthere are some wiki pages, and some text files containing docs that wait to be wikified
16:35.58nevcairielcheck the docs dir in Ace3
16:36.13Polarinanevcairiel: Thanks.
16:36.39nevcairielIf you knew Ace2, it shouldnt be too hard for you to switch
16:37.05nevcairielYou just have to adapt to the new API, where alot of useless stuff vanished, and some stuff you have to do yourself ,)
16:37.16Polarinanevcairiel: I'm new to Ace.
16:37.45PolarinaWhere in the SVN is the Ace3 source?
16:37.46nevcairielThere is this Ace2 tutorial .. WelcomeHome i think, shouldnt be hard to change that to Ace3
16:37.52nevcairielbranches/Ace3
16:37.54dylanmPolarina: /branches/Ace3
16:38.05PolarinaThanks.
16:38.13dylanm<PROTECTED>
16:38.30nevcairielyeah still .. man we need to fix that two last bugs =P
16:38.49KazieARe there any addons that have overrun SCT or something?
16:38.55Pkekyo|bah, 496 pageviews on dART...geif moar! :p
16:39.06cncfanaticsnevcairiel: what bugs ?
16:39.11nevcairielKazie: personally i use MSBT and prefer it over SCT
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16:39.21EllipsisPkekyo|: WTT [Pageviews] for [Caffeine] PST
16:39.36syerenKazie, Parrot?
16:39.37Stan_hm one bug is assigned to Mikk and the other one to hC
16:39.39nevcairielcncfanatics: nothing bad, just some unfinished stuff with commandline
16:39.50Stan_cncfanatics: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE/fixforversion/10012
16:39.54KazieMSBT / Parrot? :o
16:40.06Stan_cncfanatics: http://jira.wowace.com/secure/BrowseVersion.jspa?id=10022&versionId=10012&showOpenIssuesOnly=true < better
16:40.07Pkekyo|Ellipsis: caffeine? I has manies!
16:40.12nevcairielhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html <-- MSBT
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16:40.15Ellipsisgood, I need manies
16:40.21Ellipsismust stay awake another, eh, 4-6 hours
16:40.24Ellipsisand finish packing in that time :<
16:40.27Pkekyo|coem 2 my house bank
16:40.39cncfanaticsty Stan_
16:40.50PolarinaHow do I submit bugs there?
16:40.58KazieCan MSBT do multiple frames?
16:41.03Ellipsiscreate an account, hit "new issue" at the top
16:41.20PolarinaDoes my forum account to?
16:41.24Polarinas/to/do/
16:41.27Ellipsisno, separate accounts
16:41.28cncfanaticsno
16:41.31Kazienevcairiel: Is it possible to make multiple frames with MSBT? .. to keep healing and dmg seperated
16:41.36Pkekyo|Ellipsis: where you headed?
16:41.43EllipsisPkekyo|: candyland!
16:41.49Pkekyo|also: how the flying fuck does caffeine keep you awake?
16:41.51Ellipsisat least that's what the man with the funny beard told me
16:42.03Pkekyo|bwahaha
16:42.08winkilleranyone knows how the Blizzard Quest Tracking Frame is called?
16:42.09nevcairielKazie: it doesnt really do "frames" .. it adds stuff to scroll areas that scroll down on your screen, but yes you can seperate that
16:42.15winkillervisor grab doesn't get it
16:42.15cncfanaticsgood music keeps you awake better then all the cafeine in the world
16:42.20CIA-4803bethink * r58972 10Analyst/ (Analyst.lua release_notes.txt):
16:42.20CIA-48Analyst:
16:42.20CIA-48- CHANGE: Default key bindings are now applied only once.
16:42.30dylanmKazie: As far as I know. It's pretty configurable.
16:42.34EllipsisI can't listen to good music :(
16:42.37Ellipsisand it's ALL Stan_'s FAULT
16:42.38Kaziehmm maybe i should give MSBT a try then.. does it work with Fubar like much other stuff?
16:42.50Stan_Ellipsis: I'm so NOT sorry :P
16:42.58Pkekyo|Ellipsis: whyes nuts?
16:43.04Ellipsisit's complicated, but basically, Stan_ sucks
16:43.13nevcairielKazie: no msbt doesnt have fubar support, but you dont really need it, just type /msbt once, set everything up, and be happy
16:43.14Pkekyo|ok, I can believe that
16:43.27Ellipsissoftware issues + unplugging hardware = infinite loops of crashing = pain
16:43.35Pkekyo|ohnoes
16:43.37Pkekyo|evul Stan_
16:43.39Stan_Ellipsis: :(
16:43.40PolarinaWTF is wrong with AceLocale-3.0?
16:43.40cncfanaticshow is that stan's fault ? :p
16:43.43ZarielWhats the function to print a message to SCT?
16:43.50Kazienevcairiel: Great.. i don't really need more shit to fill my Fubar ;d .. although we're 5-7 things only hehe
16:43.55Ellipsiscncfanatics: he's the one who gave me the broken software!
16:44.05Stan_hehe
16:44.07Stan_Illidan now
16:44.10Stan_stfu :P
16:44.13Ellipsisno u
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16:44.43cncfanaticsStan_, I'm gonna take control of Illidan and wipe your raid !
16:44.55Ellipsisaw, cncfanatics, you really do like me :)
16:45.00Stan_no u
16:45.35Pkekyo|someone write this article for me! :<
16:46.05Zarieldoes SCT not support adding messages from other addons? or only through slash commands
16:46.17Polarinanevcairiel: Lines 9, 10 and 11 in AceLocale-3.0.lua can go. GetLocale() on the enGB client always returns enUS.
16:46.44Kazienevcairiel: Okay i may ask nubish now.. but what's that API file doing in the zip when downloading MSBT? .. :s
16:47.02KazieANd what's it good for? :o
16:47.03Zarielincase its needed
16:47.11Zarielits there for other addons to use MSBT?
16:47.21ZarielIe things like Crit tracking mods
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16:47.36Ellipsispeople complain about extra documentation now?
16:47.42Ellipsiswhat a backwards world we live in
16:47.47Zarieli actually used it earlier today
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16:48.15Kazieextra documentation?
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16:48.45nevcairielthat API.html is just documentation
16:48.46nevcairielignore it
16:48.48nevcairielor delete it
16:48.59KazieWell.. .html i can't see lol.. ^^
16:49.09KazieJust says API .. and with no browser associated to it :S .. lol
16:49.11Kaziewierd haha
16:49.40xyuhmm strange.  arathi highlands no longer has a flightpath or something?
16:49.52xyu(hammerfall)
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16:50.16Pkekyo|xyu: yes, yes it does?
16:50.19xyun/m  the NPC fell through the platform
16:50.29xyuand is on the ground under it
16:50.33xyustrange
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16:50.41dylanmThat crazy guy.
16:51.03Polarinaxyu: Check the in-game knowledge base, they wrote about it there. :P
16:51.21Pkekyo|lmao
16:51.49PolarinaXinhuan: Why is that yellow "Ace3" thing there when you commit something?
16:51.49CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58974 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix operator precedence issue
16:52.21Xinhuanit means i commited to /branches/Routes/Ace3/Routes.lua in r58794
16:52.30nevcairielthats the name of the branch
16:52.46PolarinaOk.
16:53.01PolarinaXinhuan: You preparing it for Ace3? :)
16:53.08nevcairielThats a new addon
16:53.25Xinhuanwell, the line drawing, and route optimization is 100% working now
16:53.30Xinhuanhowever, the Creation of routes is not
16:54.42PolarinaNew addon? What is it supposed to do? :)
16:54.48nevcairielthe same as before
16:54.49nevcairieljuts new
16:54.51Xinhuanit doesn't do anything new
16:54.51nevcairiel*just
16:54.54Xinhuanits just a new addon
16:54.54Xinhuan:D
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16:55.31Polarinahttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta/docs/AceEvent-3.0.txt :  What is that addon:RegisterMessage()?
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16:58.05nevcairielits inter-addon communication
16:58.08Xinhuanit means i can register for the message "abcde" to say i'm interested in it
16:58.17nevcairielits basicly like Events
16:58.21Xinhuananother addon can then SendMessage("abcder", arg1, arg2, arg3)
16:58.28Xinhuanand all addons that registered for "abcde"
16:58.33Xinhuanwill receive that event with the args
16:58.39PolarinaCool.
16:58.48nevcairielLike Events, just between Addons :)
16:59.07Xinhuanpreviously in Ace2, ppl abused it to send blizzard events
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16:59.23PolarinaSo, if my addon sends something, all players using my addon and are logged into the realm and of the same faction recieve that event?
16:59.37Xinhuanno, just your machine
16:59.47Polarinao.O
16:59.50cncfanaticsjust all addons you have installed recieve it
16:59.55PolarinaOk.
17:00.00Xinhuanif addonA sends "abcde" event, all addons on your machine that listens for "abcde" will trigger
17:00.01cncfanaticsif you want other people to get it, you need to use AceComm
17:01.13PolarinaAceBucket-3.0, what is that?
17:01.30malrethit's for walruses
17:01.30Pkekyo|fucksake, my adobe cs3 pack doesn't have Indesign :<
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17:02.04nevcairielPolarina: it'll bucket events, like you have UNIT_HEALTH that fires a gazillion times in raids, you can say "hey, i only want that every 0.1 seconds", and AceBucket will collect it for you, and forward to you after your specified time
17:02.59Xinhuanit means that instead of running your code to update HP on screen everytime UNIT_HEALTH fires, ace3 only forwards you that event every X seconds if it fired at least once
17:03.01Polarinanevcairiel: There's a bug in the documentation. It doesn't specify what unit is being used for the interval. I could as well guess it is milliseconds, seconds, minutes, lightyears, etc.
17:03.19Xinhuani think any sane person in this channel will tell you its in seconds
17:03.27nevcairieleverything is seconds *shrug
17:03.31nevcairielaltho lightyears would be fun
17:03.35PolarinaOk. :)
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17:04.04Xinhuanalso, a lightyear isn't a duration, its a distance
17:04.20malrethbah... Xin beat me to it
17:04.33nevcairieltrue
17:04.39abolendamfortnight.  because everything should be divisible by 14.
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17:05.25Xinhuan~dict lightyear
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17:06.00xyuis.......!?!?!?
17:06.08Polarinalol
17:06.08nevcairielwe'll never know!
17:06.13Xinhuanwell you could go to www.dictionary.com
17:06.15Xinhuanand read the rest
17:06.30malrethi'll wait for the movie to come out
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17:07.43nevcairieli could spoil all the fun and tell you that its proxima centauri, but meh
17:07.45nevcairieloh woops
17:07.59malrethoh man.. spoiler alert at least
17:08.04malrethor rot-13 that
17:08.25malrethit's just like sixth sense all over again
17:10.14cncfanaticswhy does SetDefaultModuleState(false) during OnInitialize not stop Ace3 from loading my modules ?
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17:10.34xyuModuleDetermination()
17:11.07nevcairielcncfanatics: probably bugged
17:11.42cncfanaticsunbug it plx ? :p
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17:13.47nevcairielcncfanatics: oh no, it should work
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17:14.55[SW]Dodgewhere to quest as lvl 40 frost mage? .D
17:15.22cncfanatics[SW]Dodge: in a level 40 zone
17:15.31[SW]Dodgecncfanatics: -.-''
17:15.46cncfanatics:)
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17:17.31Pkekyo|son of a fucking bitch
17:17.35Pkekyo|down to 0.25fps stable again
17:17.40cncfanaticsnevcairiel: its bugged
17:18.02cncfanaticsor i'm misunderstanding something badly
17:18.10GandharvaDaemona: fix Deaden? It's working fine here. Did RoS 2h ago.
17:18.19cncfanaticsnevcairiel: http://www.pastebin.ca/866421
17:18.24cncfanaticsthis will return true for my modules
17:18.46CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58975 10Routes/Routes.toc: Routes: Set Cartographer and Gathermate as OptDep
17:19.01XinhuanDeadened throws an error if you don't have Parser-3.0 installed
17:19.12DaemonaGandharva are you running enGB or frFR ?
17:19.14Xinhuanit doesn't like LibParser-4.0 basically
17:19.23GandharvaenGB
17:19.26Daemonaat least the version i grabbed before wowace went down reports SIX errors
17:19.31Daemonausing an enGB client
17:19.35Xinhuanhas nothing to do with language heh
17:19.52DaemonaXinhuan the error appeared after the frFR translation was added
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17:20.08Xinhuanthen something screwed up
17:20.35GandharvaI use the latest version with french translation atm. No errors.
17:23.00GandharvaDaemona: Can you please provide the error msgs?
17:23.09Daemonai'd redownload and restart to check, but 15 minutes queue and a raid tells me not to ;)
17:23.45Daemonaits a bunch of "atempt to index gobal Deadened (a nil value)" in all 5 luas
17:24.03Ellipsisyes but what is the first one
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17:25.15Nefarionanyone know the font used on these unit frames: http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092107012154lw6.jpg
17:26.03Daemonalocalization.lua "')' exptected (to close '(' at line 2) near '('
17:26.16Ellipsiswell there you go, someone broke a translation
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17:28.15Pkekyo|hails*
17:28.41Daemonaas i said, the error was introduced after Gandharva added the frFR translation ;)
17:28.49PolarinaThere are no documentations for AceGUI-3.0. What gives?
17:29.04Fisker-no Pkekyo|
17:29.25Pkekyo|ok
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17:31.58GandharvaDaemona: got it. I missed a comma. didn't save the file before i commited... sry. It's fixed in a minute.
17:31.58Ellipsis~lart Gandharva
17:31.58purldrops a baby grand on Gandharva
17:32.08Ellipsisabout time, purl
17:32.09Gandharva:P
17:32.20Ellipsisstupid lazy bot
17:34.39CIA-4803gandharva * r58976 10Deadened/localization.lua:
17:34.39CIA-48Deadened:
17:34.39CIA-48- missing comma...
17:35.39Pkekyo|~lart purl
17:35.39purlraises middle finger to pkekyo|
17:35.43Pkekyo|damnit
17:35.45Pkekyo|smart bot
17:35.48Ellipsislulz
17:35.59Pkekyo|screw you purl
17:36.07Ellipsispurl, you suck
17:36.20purland very well I might add
17:36.49HigdurI just got shitloads of lost mail back \o/
17:36.52Polarinanevcairiel: AceSerializer-3.0.lua: local strlen=string.len  -- That is a unused function and if it were, the Ace people deserve to be spanked! Could you remove it?
17:36.56Pkekyo|bwahahah
17:37.32EllipsisPolarina, if you really feel the need to make all these changes, why don't you commit them yourself
17:37.41Ellipsisor better yet, post jira issues for each thing you find
17:37.46Ellipsisso they can be discussed
17:38.08PolarinaEllipsis: May I commit them myself, please?
17:38.24Ellipsis...why are you asking me?
17:38.26CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r58977 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua:
17:38.26CIA-48Ace3 - AceSerializer:
17:38.26CIA-48- removed unused strlen upvalue
17:38.50Polarinanevcairiel: Thanks. I also found another line.
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17:39.34Polarinanevcairiel: local iter = string.gmatch(str, "(^.)([^^]*)")-- Any ^x followed by string of non-^                -- Not taking advanage of the local 'gmatch'.
17:40.15nevcairielI'll wait with the commit =P
17:41.29Polarinanevcairiel: And there's no local for 'type'.
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17:42.28Polarinanevcairiel: tostring() and tonumber() too.
17:43.38Fisker-OMG SERVER IS FULL
17:43.40CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58978 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua): Routes: Now correctly detects both Cartographer and GatherMate node databases if present.
17:44.34Polarinanevcairiel: And select()
17:45.06Xinhuanhttp://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp6.jpg
17:45.21Xinhuanso, the type="multiselect" isn't very pretty
17:46.02Nefarionthat's the ace3 gui?
17:47.05Polarinanevcairiel: And I can see some code that can use some optimisation. I'll just make a diff. :P
17:47.17Xinhuanyes
17:48.09PolarinaOh, wait. It was just me with that optimisation I just mentioned, forget about it. :)
17:49.12Polarinanevcairiel: You may commit the changes I mentioned.
17:49.45Nefarionnobody knows this font?: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3627/wowscrnshot092107012208lb5.jpg
17:50.02CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r58979 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua:
17:50.02CIA-48Ace3 - AceSerializer:
17:50.02CIA-48- add some upvalues for minor speed ups
17:50.21Fisker-lolwut nevcairiel
17:50.31Polarinanevcairiel: You rule! :D
17:50.47Fisker-so if you add some downvalues do you slow it down? :O
17:51.15Pkekyo|Nefarion: what the flying fuck do you want that font for?
17:51.40Pkekyo|meh, I should write this bloody article
17:51.56Nefarioni wanna put it on my desktop so i can stare at the icon
17:52.24Pkekyo|rofl
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17:54.38thulhmm
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17:57.34Polarinanevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua: function DBObjectLib:GetProfiles(tbl)        if tbl and type(tbl) ~= "table" then   -- Change it to:  if type(tbl) ~= "table" then
17:57.52nevcairielnono
17:58.02nevcairielit should work if tbl == nil too
17:58.05nevcairielthats an optional arg
17:58.14PolarinaUps.. My mistake. :P
17:58.23Pkekyo|"Your mother is talking about adopting a communist orphan. I need help! NOW MOVE DAMNIT!"
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17:59.14Polarinanevcairiel: Hmm... What is that operator 'and' doing there... For me, it looks like that any value can be there except for:  table, nil and false.
17:59.15Xinhuanif tbl is nil then it will fail the IF test ;d
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18:00.32PolarinaNo, wait. It's just me again. :)
18:00.58okolhello guys i wonder if you can help me, i'm getting connection refused to 'files.wowace.com', i've tried it from several networks.
18:01.14Melikae"15files.wowace.com is down, it'll be up later.01"
18:01.19[Liquidor]okol, go away
18:01.45okolty for letting me know, there was nothing on the forums so i came here ;)
18:02.30Pkekyo|damnit Melikae, what's with colored text?
18:03.21Polarinanevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua: if not sv.namespaces then sv.namespaces = {} end   -- Change it to:  sv.namespaces = sv.namespaces or {}
18:04.16Polarinanevcairiel: And change all lines that use that "if not <var> then <var> = {} end" style.
18:04.59Melikaeuhm, just copied the Topic text, which showed in this beautiful *cough* color when I came in ;)
18:05.17Polarinanevcairiel: Make _G local and change   tbl = getglobal(name)   to   tbl = _G[name]
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18:07.57lockyiehi all
18:08.03[Liquidor]lua_bot > local tbl = {"a", "b", "c"}; local tmp = table.concat(tbl); print(tmp);
18:08.20[Liquidor]uhm how do I use the bot?
18:08.30lockyiedunno
18:08.42[Liquidor]Not asking you then ;)
18:08.49lockyielol
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18:09.01lockyiecan somebudy help me out maybe ?
18:09.09Nefarionlua>
18:09.09lua_botNefarion:
18:09.09Polarinanevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua:  if not type(dest) == "table" then dest = {} end    -- Change it to:  if type(dest) ~= "table" then dest = {} end
18:09.24[Liquidor]lua> local tbl = {"a", "b", "c"}; local tmp = table.concat(tbl); print(tmp);
18:09.24lua_bot[Liquidor]: abc
18:09.35[Liquidor]lua> local tbl = {"a", "b", "c"}; local tmp = table.concat(tbl, ":"); print(tmp);
18:09.35lua_bot[Liquidor]: a:b:c
18:09.37[Liquidor]kk
18:10.40lockyiei have a prob whit my  wowace updater  
18:11.06[Liquidor]If a function returns more than 1 value (i.e func a() return 1,2,3 end), what is the type of the return when calling a() ?
18:11.08Polarinanevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua: if rawget(dest, k) == nil then     -- Change it to:  if not rawget(dest, k) then
18:11.11[Liquidor]lockyie, read topic
18:11.15lockyieit cant connect   or wont load my instaled  addons
18:11.19[Liquidor]lockyie, read topic
18:12.13Polarinanevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua: if defaults[key] == nil and v == value then     -- Change it to:  if not defaults[key] and v == value then
18:12.20Polarinanevcairiel: Ok, I'm off for now, eating.
18:12.31KazieAnyone who knows how many buffs the default buff frames have per row?
18:12.50[Liquidor]Depends whether ToT is enabled I believe
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18:13.11nevcairielPolarina: but defaults[key] can be "false" too
18:13.13nevcairieland yours fails
18:13.56KazieToT?
18:14.08nevcairielTarget of Target
18:14.30Kazielol obvious rly..
18:14.55KazieBut ToT shouldn't affect ones buffs.. unless it wasn't to me ^^
18:15.04[Liquidor]Kazie, 6
18:15.09Kazieokay thx..
18:15.19[Liquidor]Kazie, but wait
18:15.27[Liquidor]trying to see if ToT pushes one doiwn
18:15.27KazieWhat's up?
18:15.41KazieWell i'm talking about the default buffs at your minimap
18:15.46Kazienot unitframe buffs
18:15.51Polarinanevcairiel: It can? Sorry. Not looking at the global functionality of the code, just piece by piece.
18:15.51[Liquidor]oh
18:15.55Kazie^^
18:16.00[Liquidor]well you didn't meantion which :)
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18:16.05KazieTrue dat ;D
18:16.17lockyiewell  thar is nothing in the helpfiles regarding the lastest version  
18:16.31lockyiethat helps me
18:16.38[Liquidor]I don't got enough buffs to find out Kazie
18:16.42[Liquidor]I can get to 8
18:16.44Ellipsislockyie: read the topic.
18:16.44KazieAuw..
18:16.48Polarinanevcairiel: But you can commit the other changes I mentioned.
18:16.49Kazieoh.. 8 ... damn..
18:16.56Ellipsishint: there's a bit at the end which might be interesting to you
18:16.59[Liquidor]Ellipsis, Already told him 3 times
18:17.01KazieThen it's prolly 8 or 10
18:17.07EllipsisI noticed [Liquidor]
18:17.18[Liquidor]I'd guess it's 8
18:17.21[Liquidor]but no clue
18:17.24lockyiehooo rofl sorry  :s
18:17.31[Liquidor]Kazie, look in the buff frame xml
18:17.41KazieWhere? :)
18:17.52[Liquidor]http://wdnaddons.com/
18:18.20Polarinanevcairiel: The Ace source doesn't have a good coding style so I'm a bit longer reading it than usually.
18:18.42dylanmHuh? Ace3 even?
18:18.43[Liquidor]Kazie, http://wdnaddons.com/0337799/FrameXML/BuffFrame.lua
18:18.53[Liquidor]#
18:18.53[Liquidor]BUFFS_PER_ROW = 8;
18:18.53[Liquidor]#
18:18.53[Liquidor]BUFF_MAX_DISPLAY = 32;
18:18.55nevcairielpersonally, i like the style
18:18.59[Liquidor]whoops # within
18:19.09KazieAhh nice :)
18:19.14KazieDidn't know about that one ;)
18:19.33[Liquidor]Global Variables, go change them if needed :)
18:19.34Polarinanevcairiel: Yes, it's good, but in one and one places, it takes me a while to read.
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18:20.57Polarinanevcairiel: But could you commit the changes I mentioned? :)
18:21.30[Liquidor]Your changes won't help (the ones changing nil to false statements)
18:21.37nevcairielPolarina: no, some make no sense
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18:21.49nevcairiel(19:03:17) (Polarina) nevcairiel: AceDB-3.0.lua: if not sv.namespaces then sv.namespaces = {} end -- Change it to: sv.namespaces = sv.namespaces or {}
18:21.51nevcairielfor example
18:22.01nevcairielusing a = a or b uses one more assignment
18:22.07Polarinanevcairiel: Those who make sense.
18:22.18Polarina:)
18:22.20nevcairielwhile if not a then a = b end is only a assignment of a is not set
18:22.47PolarinaOk. :)
18:23.44Polarinanevcairiel: But I can see this line in AceTimer:  local timer = timerCache or {}-- Get new timer object (from cache if available)
18:24.07[Ammo]have to assign that to a local anyway
18:24.10[Ammo]so no need to check
18:24.14nevcairielthats different, its a = b or c
18:24.19nevcairielthree variables
18:24.46Polarina~dict crevasse
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18:27.24[Liquidor]How come Lua doesn't like table.subtable.subtable = {} when table isn't set?
18:27.52whizterhi, is there an addon that can show if my target has buffs that can be stolen through spellsteal (perhaps sending an info line to SCT or something)
18:28.14cncfanaticsnevcairiel:
18:28.15cncfanaticshttp://www.pastebin.ca/866421
18:28.22cncfanaticslil bug with SetModuleEnabledState
18:28.26dylanm[Liquidor]: When table isn't set? That's horrid then.
18:28.32cncfanaticsit won't do anything :p my modules start out enabled in this code
18:29.25nevcairielah i see why
18:29.27nevcairiellemme fix
18:29.35cncfanaticsis it my code or ace's code thats wrong?
18:29.44[Ammo]your code sucks regardless cnc
18:29.48[Ammo]:p
18:29.53Polarinanevcairiel: AceHook-3.0.lua: There's no local for these: type, format (And replace 'string.format' with 'format'), pairs.
18:29.54nevcairielyou could fix it in your code
18:30.02cncfanaticstell me whats wrong :)
18:30.03nevcairielhowever, its still a bug :P
18:30.05[Liquidor]well I mean
18:30.14cncfanaticsexplain then :)
18:30.18nevcairielcall :SetDefaultModuleState in the main chunk
18:30.21nevcairielnot in the functions
18:30.24cncfanaticsah I see
18:30.28nevcairielbut *shrug, i'll fix it
18:30.37cncfanaticsmodules creater before the call will be enabled regardless ?
18:30.45cncfanaticsand most modules are created in the mainchunck, so it bugs ?
18:30.47[Liquidor]Creating a table path with some other languages will cause no errors and the language will just add the subtables itself, but that's not possible with lua?
18:30.50nevcairielright
18:30.58cncfanatics[Liquidor]: yes
18:31.06cncfanaticsyou will have to create every table manualy
18:31.07[Ammo]it should loop the modules on setdefaultmoduleenabledstate
18:31.09[Ammo]or soemthing
18:31.10[Ammo]but shrug
18:31.15nevcairieli'll add that
18:31.16[Liquidor]cncfanatics, :-/
18:31.17nevcairieli guess
18:33.00cncfanatics[Liquidor]: you could write a set of functions that do that for you though, easy enough
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18:33.56crusiehey
18:34.04crusiefiles.wowace.com down ??
18:34.06[Liquidor]crusie, IT's down. Read topic
18:34.09[Liquidor]gah I wasn't fast enough
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18:34.29crusie:P
18:34.31crusiesry
18:34.39Pkekyo|it's great how people laugh at stuff they *think* is supposed to be funny
18:34.56crusieany ETA on when it's gonna be online again ?
18:35.08[Liquidor]crusie, Topic ----->
18:35.09Psychotoxiclater :p
18:35.24crusienever tried the ace part of mods... but from what I've been told this is THE addons :D
18:35.46Pkekyo|....ok...
18:35.59crusiedoes it have alot of downtime that server?
18:36.10Pkekyo|no
18:36.22crusieso it's more like once in a lifetime ?
18:36.25[Ammo]this is the first real big one in months
18:36.34abolendami wonder what happened.
18:36.46crusieis it because they are upgrading ? or is it a server crash ?
18:36.47[Liquidor]abolendam, hamster died.
18:37.02Mudkipz:(
18:37.04abolendamwell, feh.  who's turn was it to feed it today?
18:37.04Mudkipzdid you eat it?
18:37.18Pkekyo|crusie: noone knows, noone carse, it's fine, it'll be back up asap
18:37.22[Liquidor]someone left it alone for the weekend
18:37.31abolendamlonely hamster.  so sad.
18:37.39crusiewell... I care... I just wanted to check it out.. and it's all down and shtie..
18:37.43crusiewell nvm...
18:37.49[Liquidor]well ok
18:37.50crusieI'll get around to it eventually
18:37.56Mudkipzhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=YXRH50fvHWA&feature=PlayList&p=2D9FD79646A14D96&index=3
18:37.57dylanmGoes down less often than Blizzard servers, let's say :)
18:38.05Mudkipzturbo hamster!
18:38.14crusiewell that's hardly any success is it ?
18:38.18[Liquidor]Dunno if I want to click that link
18:38.33Mudkipzit was cached in my favs
18:38.43Mudkipzthat's why it looks like that
18:38.46Polarinanevcairiel: AceTab-3.0.lua: There's no local for: type, pairs, ipairs, next.
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18:38.53[Liquidor]Now I know for sure I don't want to click that link
18:38.56Mudkipzmeh your loss
18:39.24abolendamsometimes, you need to let go of the wheel.
18:39.46[Liquidor]Glory-2.0 got no Arena support :((
18:40.08[Liquidor]ckknight, Elkano, fix
18:40.10Polarinanevcairiel: AceTab-3.0.lua: local function printf(...) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(strformat(...)) end    -- Unused...
18:40.39kagaroPolarina is on a roll
18:41.51nevcairielcncfanatics: i decided to not fix it, you need to fix your code to call SetDefaultModuleState in the main chunk
18:42.00nevcairielwould cause too many weirdness
18:42.26cncfanaticstrue, it remains a bug though
18:42.36cncfanaticsplease document near the func it shld be called in the main chunck at least
18:42.37nevcairielno it doesnt
18:42.56nevcairielif you change a "default" of a module, after the module has been created
18:42.56nevcairielwell
18:42.58Polarinanevcairiel: Could you fix the upvalues of these two files, please? :)
18:43.01nevcairielyou see the logic
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18:43.31cncfanaticsthe comments near the code mention OnInitialize though
18:43.37cncfanaticsso at least that shld be changed :)
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18:44.51Kerafyrm_files.wowace.com go poof
18:45.09Pkekyo|what is good for getting coal out of clothing? :p
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18:46.09Polarinanevcairiel: Better yet, may I fix these "upvalue bugs" myself? :)
18:46.20Zarielwhat would be the best way to parse commands with spaces in them with Slash Commands, like print Aimed Shot GUILD?
18:47.06nevcairielcncfanatics: i added error messages that yell at you when you do it wrong, good enough ? :P
18:47.24[dRaCo]strsplit, but that's a php function :/
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18:48.26Polarinanevcairiel: this.at3matches[desc] = numMatches > 0 and matches or nil  --- Why is that 'or nil' there?
18:48.49nevcairieli didnt look at AceTab
18:48.51nevcairielno idea
18:49.02dylanmThat's hyper's deal innit?
18:49.07nevcairielyea
18:49.22Polarinanevcairiel: It is safe to remove that 'or nil' part though?
18:49.24CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r58980 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua:
18:49.24CIA-48Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0
18:49.24CIA-48- add some additional error messages to notify the author of mal-practice
18:49.31nevcairielprobably not
18:49.32Ellipsisif you did it would be assigned false instead of nil
18:49.37nevcairielthe var would be "false" and not nil
18:49.40Ellipsisand if the code expects nil, then false would be bad
18:49.45nevcairieldamn Ellipsis beat me to it :P
18:49.48Polarinanevcairiel: Ah..
18:50.22Polarinanevcairiel: But am I allowed to fix these upvalue things myself, please? :P
18:51.29nevcairielgo ahead, but dont break it
18:51.47Polarinanevcairiel: I won't. I promise.
18:52.50ckknightPolarina: can you _keep_ that promise?
18:53.02Ellipsisit's a trap!
18:53.18Polarinackknight: Yes.
18:53.47nevcairieli dont see how any sane person could break code by adding three lines of upvalues
18:53.50nevcairielbut shrug, we have revert
18:54.39Pkekyo|oh fuck me sideways...I need to write this bloody article...                                 anyone got an article to spare?
18:54.54ckknightarticle?
18:55.01cncfanaticshow so Pkekyo| ?
18:55.02Polarinackknight, nevcairiel: Thanks.
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18:55.21Pkekyo|cncfanatics: I haven't written it yet, and deadline's tomorrow morning :)
18:56.02Pkekyo|only thing I've got is a half-assed duct tape-style interview :p
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18:56.41CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Beta * r58981 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua:
18:56.41CIA-48Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0
18:56.41CIA-48- some minor tweaks
18:57.01cncfanaticswhat you got to write about ?
18:57.19chipersooo, how long has files.wowace been offline?
18:57.34Ellipsislong enough that we want to strangle you for mentioning it again
18:57.41chiperheh
18:57.47Ellipsisor maybe it's just me
18:57.51Ellipsis(sorry, I'm cranky)
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18:58.38cncfanaticsagree with Ellipsis here
18:59.09Pkekyo|cncfanatics: software and media piracy
18:59.52nevcairielinterview the channel, i bet we have alot ot say
19:00.27Pkekyo|allready interviewed thul and some other dongjob...need the main body of the article now :p
19:00.34nevcairiellol
19:00.41Ellipsisthis is IRC, we breathe warez
19:00.59Pkekyo|^^
19:02.02Pkekyo|well, actually, I need comments on how people look upon the way the RIAA/MPAA and various other interest organizations are attacking the piracy issue... if anyone fancy having a go at the RIAA/MPAA :)
19:02.41CIA-4803kagaro * r58982 10/branches/GatherMate_Data/ (FishData.lua GatherMateData.lua GatherMate_Data.toc): GatherMate_Data: manully added a fishing DB, from forum post data and guildmates
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19:03.05pb_ee1Heya
19:03.14pb_ee1files.wowace.com is down isn't it?
19:03.20chiperhahaha
19:03.23Ellipsistopic. read.
19:03.47Polarinanevcairiel or ckknight: Should 'assert' and 'error' be made of upvalues if they are used extensively?
19:03.48thulPkekyo|: other dongjob? :-P
19:03.48Pkekyo|next person asking about files.wowace.com needs a permban
19:03.49thulRUDE!
19:03.51CIA-4803kagaro * r58983 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: Added fish to import options for GatherMate_Data
19:03.51chiperfor the record, it's at the end of the topic, and scrolled off my client screen
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19:03.58[Liquidor]Someone make purl auto-respond on files.* + down + ?
19:04.02Pkekyo|thul: want me to call you a dongjob as well?
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19:04.17thulhehe
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19:04.27nevcairielPolarina: error doesnt make sense since the code will just quit at that point anyway, and the asserts will probably be removed at some point anyway, so skip those
19:04.28pb_ee1didn't find it...
19:04.43Polarinanevcairiel: No problem. :)
19:05.09Pkekyo|if so, I can do it... thul: dongjob
19:05.10n|kleehi :) where can i get the newest WAU?
19:05.30Pkekyo|wowace.com?
19:05.34chiperPkekyo|: RIAA/MPAA have begun to think that they're a law enforcement agency.  They think that because the law is on their side, it means they have the right to enforce it.
19:05.41pb_ee1Ellipsis, in which forum can i find the thread? the forum structure is just bullshit
19:05.54thulPkekyo|:P
19:05.55thulSometimes bumble bees actually can fly even though the aeronautical engineers say that their wing surface area and power to weight ratio prove that they can't.
19:05.56kd3"begun to think"?
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19:05.58thulMichael
19:06.04chiperkd3: fair enough
19:06.05thulthat is _the_ most irritating failure
19:06.13thulever
19:06.16thulstupid people always use that
19:06.31FG|quickdeathhi all
19:06.36Pkekyo|chiper: thank you :)
19:06.39Pkekyo|hi FG|quickdeath
19:06.46Pkekyo|ask if files.wowace is down and I'll shoot you in the face
19:06.46Polarinanevcairiel: Is it ok to remove the local 'printf' from AceTab since no code there is calling it (Not even commented code)?
19:06.54FG|quickdeathich brauche hilfe. kann mir bitte jemand helfen
19:07.03charon~asktoask
19:07.04purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
19:07.12charon(sorry, purl kann kein deutsch)
19:07.13nevcairielPolarina: nah keep that one, may be used for debugging later, aceTab isnt really finished
19:07.21Polarinanevcairiel: Ok. :)
19:07.22Pkekyo|in the worlds of the great Samuel L. Jackson: English, motherfucker. DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
19:07.23kagaroDid anyone see the RIAA had their website DB crushed?
19:07.34thulFAILURE
19:07.35Pkekyo|kagaro: source? :)
19:07.39FG|quickdeathwowaceupdater is empty. i will have addons in it
19:07.40kagaroreddit, digg
19:07.41thuli hate religious people
19:07.55kd3kagaro, ya, that was amusing
19:07.57thuland i hate people that make unfounded statements suck
19:07.58thul:-(
19:08.06Pkekyo|FG|quickdeath: files.wowace.com is currently down, WAU will be fully operational once the server is back up
19:08.19kd3why be so restrictive? I'd stick with "I hate people"
19:08.19kagarotheir dynamic content is "temporarily" not avilable
19:08.30FG|quickdeathah ok thx. i will wait.
19:08.49chiperPkekyo|: further more, this has progressed to the point that now they think that anything they want is now the law, so people are being told they're doing things illegally when really there is no law concerning it.  Example: Fair Use.  RIAA's mindset of fair use does not match legal precedence.
19:09.29Pkekyo|could you elaborate on 'fair use'? I'm unfamilliar with american laws
19:09.44thulkd3: well, I actually love some people, Pkekyo| and Ellipsis
19:09.45thul:-P
19:09.51thulPkekyo|: that is a very good question
19:10.05FG|quickdeathwhen is the server back?
19:10.09kd3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
19:10.16thulriaa and some law givers arent in line
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19:10.23chiperhttp://www.google.com/search?&q=define:+fair+use
19:10.26kd3when someone gives it a good kick
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19:11.34nevcairielfiles seems to be working again
19:11.35nevcairielgo nuts
19:11.52Pkekyo|thulkd3: well, I actually love some people, Pkekyo| and Ellipsis <---- this does not support your earlier statement to Ellipsis, claiming that you are not gay :p
19:11.57Funkeh`hi
19:12.09Pkekyo|hi Funkeh`
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19:13.29thulcopyright law is actually quite interesting
19:13.43chiperPkekyo|: in RIAA's mindset, the only legal use of an audio recording is a private listening of a small audience, preferably one person.  By their definition, if you're playing music at a party you are in violation of copyright law.  If you have your car stereo turned up too loud, you are in violation.  If you're outside playing basketball and have a boom box on, you are breaking the law
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19:13.54chiperit's complete bullshit
19:14.02Pkekyo|RIAA and MPAAs harassment of dead and newborn people commiting copyright infridgement too :p
19:14.31Pkekyo|agreed, chiper
19:14.41thulwell, actually, if you hold a large party, in some somrt of commercial context
19:14.50thulyou _are_ breaking the law :-P
19:15.04kagaroyou dont wana see the Musizac guys .. they strong arm you bigtime
19:15.04Pkekyo|it's a shame I only have two pages to write this article on...I could bitch and moan about copyright laws for about 20 :p
19:15.11Finyou missed the bit about fair use eh thul
19:16.09chiperthul: well technically, if you have a radio on at your job and you interract with customers face to face, you're breaking the law :P
19:16.15Pkekyo|meh, ran out of nachos...goodbye, cruel world!
19:16.15thulfinot really
19:16.42chiperany time there's a changing of money, riaa wants in on it
19:16.55chipereven if it's just incidental
19:17.35Pkekyo|basicly, if you ever heard a song, and you ever gat your hand on a dime, RIAA wants it
19:17.41kagaroI got hassled by them, cause the kitchen in our family pizza shops had the cd player on and *gasp* the kitchen staff could hear the cd
19:17.42thulchyes, that was the norwegian legal battle
19:17.42thulbaaaaaaaaaaah
19:17.43thuli hate ssh-lag
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19:18.45Pkekyo|you serious, kagaro?
19:18.47thulI paid what is compared to the monthly wage of the hotel buss boy to get this wireless
19:18.53thuland it works like chinese politics
19:18.58kagaroyes, got a cease and desist
19:19.26kagarowe swapped over to old italian radio cassets fromt he 50's never released in the us or under us copyright
19:19.28thulwell, tono had this debate in norway too
19:19.31Pkekyo|mate of mine got a cease and desist from activision :)
19:19.58thulhttp://www.torvund.net/index.php?page=tonokrav <- Pkekyo|
19:20.06thul(and everyone else that reads norwegian)
19:21.58Ellipsisnormally I'd make an attempt to read that :(
19:22.36Pkekyo|rofl, TONO claims that if an employer lets an employee use a computer with an internet connection and a sound output is "setting up a performance(in lack of better words)" for the employee, and hence, has to pay them
19:22.49Polarinanevcairiel: What's wrong with lines 69 to 82 in AceTimer-3.0.lua?
19:23.10Ellipsiswhy don't you tell us, Polarina?
19:23.14nevcairielnothing, why?
19:23.43Pkekyo|l2jira :)
19:23.44Polarinanevcairiel: Because I can see  local code = [[ <some lines of code> ]]
19:23.51nevcairielyeah
19:23.52nevcairielso?
19:23.52Ellipsisand what's wrong with that?
19:24.03nevcairiel[[ ]] is some form to declare string
19:24.07nevcairiel*strings
19:24.24Polarinanevcairiel: Ok.
19:25.08thulPkekyo|: exactly, tono is not better.. ;-)
19:26.41Pkekyo|well, they haven't started filing lawsuits against infants and decomposed corpses yet, so I still prefer them...for now :)
19:27.51Fisker-I believe there's the same thing in Denmark Pkekyo| :o
19:28.12Fisker-atleast i remember hearing about that employees couldn't hear music at work (other than radio) with the employers equipment
19:28.22Fisker-totally retarded imo
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19:30.04Pkekyo|yeah, norwegian supreme court(?) is waiting for a ruling from the danish supreme court before proceeding with the cases at hand (as of the date of thul's article)
19:30.45CIA-4803julith * r58984 10GoodTarget/ (GoodTarget.lua GoodTarget.toc):
19:30.45CIA-48GoodTarget:
19:30.45CIA-48- added option to disable party targets
19:30.45CIA-48- fix some bugs in party frames
19:31.05CIA-4803ulic * r58985 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Someday I'll l2count
19:31.30chiperPkekyo|: here's one that RIAA loves to overlook.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Home_Recording_Act
19:31.30Pkekyo|it's bloody rifuckingdiculous
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19:31.52chiperin their minds eye, that act doesnt exist
19:32.23thulthe thing is, that RIAA and the likes, are using scare tactics
19:32.37Pkekyo|I can't believe that the RIAA can say with a straight face that if you're copying a song from a CD you bought onto your mp3 player, you're commiting theft :)
19:32.40thulmy best advice is: get Alan Dershowitz involved
19:32.50thuland see them bleed
19:32.50thul:P
19:33.12chiperyeah, this is why they love sueing individuals.  most people dont have the time or resources to take it to court
19:33.32Pkekyo|fucksake, I keep losing my knives: /
19:33.56Pkekyo|I get easily distracted :<
19:33.56thulagain
19:33.56thulagalan
19:34.35Pkekyo|meh, guess I'll step on it sooner or later :)
19:34.51Polarinanevcairiel: setglobal("SLASH_"..name.."1", nil)  -- Can't we just use _G ?
19:35.09nevcairielsetglobal sounds cooler
19:35.21Polarinanevcairiel: It's slower.
19:35.28Ellipsis...
19:35.47EllipsisPolarina, maybe you should go through and remove all the comments from the files so that they don't have to be parsed
19:35.48thulICTLINTELLIntellectual Property and Information Technology in a European and International Perspective <- i want to do that this year
19:35.49Ellipsisit takes too long
19:36.08PolarinaEllipsis: That's not a runtime issue!
19:36.15Pkekyo|chiper: either way; Piracy is a crime. Do not steal ships!
19:36.16Ellipsisit's a load-time issue!
19:36.23chiperhah
19:36.23nevcairielcreating slash commands isnt a runtime issue either
19:36.30PolarinaEllipsis: Stop it.
19:36.33Ellipsisno u
19:36.48Polarinanevcairiel: I've seen lot of Ace code using _G instead of setglobal and getglobal.
19:36.51RaydenUniso my spriest has 1080 shadow dmg but only 7600 mana!
19:36.55RaydenUnishould i be concerned?
19:37.00EllipsisPolarina, since when are you the expert on Ace code?
19:37.08ShirikPolarina: That's because setglobal/getglobal are shit
19:37.13PolarinaEllipsis: I'm no expert, but I've seen it..
19:37.23EllipsisI'm pretty sure nevcairiel has seen some Ace code too
19:37.23ShirikAlmost zero code should use it
19:37.27Ellipsisin fact, probably more than you have
19:37.38PolarinaEllipsis: That's why I'm asking...
19:37.41Pkekyo|WHERE IS MY KNIFE?!
19:38.33ShirikThe only time setglobal should be used is if you're doing some setfenv craziness
19:38.33Shirikthat's it
19:38.33KazieIs it possible to make recount only show when in a party? :)
19:38.33ShirikEvery other time _G is always better
19:38.33nevcairielAce code is still in Pre-Beta, alot of the code is coded for reasy reading, not perfect performance
19:38.33Shiriknevcairiel: Apparently it is coded for performance
19:38.33nevcairiel*Ace3
19:38.33ShirikIf it uses _G
19:38.36Pkekyo|chiper: feel free to keep oon spouting anti-RIAA propaganda, I luvs it!
19:38.44Polarinanevcairiel: Sure. Just doing it now since I'm there at the moment..
19:38.45chiperlol, I think I'm done
19:38.47nevcairielShirik: Polarina was just complaining about one setglobal
19:38.50ShirikOh
19:38.59Polarinanevcairiel: I was asking why...
19:39.02Shiriknow it makes a little more sense
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19:40.08chiperas for the MPAA, I dont have much beef with them.  my only complaint is in their attacking of online distribution of tv shows.  IMO, if it goes out on free airwaves, there should be anything wrong with tossing it online.  
19:40.15chiperbut it's still a legal grey area
19:40.31chiper*shouldn't
19:40.39nevcairielwe've mainly optimized the critical path only
19:40.43nevcairiellike event handlers, timers
19:41.10Ellipsisand now, registering slash commands!
19:41.10Polarinanevcairiel: And exactly 14 lines above, in the same file we have:  _G["SLASH_"..name.."1"] = "/"..command:lower()
19:41.10PolarinaWeird.
19:41.22chiperthe laws regarding movie piracy are pretty clear, and I haven't seen the MPAA step outside their bounds on that
19:41.24Polarinas/14/16/
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19:41.29Pkekyo|seriously people, where's my knife!?
19:42.12CIA-4803alar * r58986 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc):
19:42.12CIA-48AlarLib
19:42.12CIA-48Versioned dbdata and added a cleanup for somne leftover variables in forms memorization
19:42.47chiperwow, CnC Generals is only $10 now
19:43.09Ellipsiseep
19:43.36Twisterhey all, im lookin to make my first macro, something i hope is kinda simple learning and i have an idea.  I wanna do a macro (similiar to the functionality of decursive) that i can spam a button, it will check for the existance of a buff/debuff (or multiples eventually) and if that buff/debuff is there then cast another spell, if its not then it casts that buff/debuff on that target
19:43.47Twistercan someone point me in the right directon to start
19:43.52EllipsisTwister: can't be done.
19:44.00chipertwister: cant do that in a macro
19:44.11Twisterwell..a script
19:44.15Twisternot a macro, my apoligies
19:44.15Ellipsisstill can't be done
19:44.18Pkekyo|an addon? :)
19:44.20[Liquidor]can't be done
19:44.21Twisteryea
19:44.25[Liquidor]still can't be done
19:44.29Ellipsisnothing nowhere can make decisions about which spell to cast or who to target based on buffs/debuffs
19:44.37chipermacros can no conditionally cast spells
19:44.37[Liquidor]removed looong time ago
19:44.38Twisterwhy not? decursive does something similiar?
19:44.45Twisterno, no
19:44.52Twisterim not wanting the script to make a decision
19:44.53Ellipsisif you've used decursive lately you'll notice it does something quite different now from what it used to
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19:45.12[Liquidor]Twister, once upon a time Decursive could remove debuffs from the entire raid with 1 button only
19:45.18Pkekyo|Ellipsis: geif my knife! damnit!
19:45.20Twisterya, it puts boxes up now
19:45.24chiperdecursive doesn't control weather the spell gets cast
19:45.26Twisterand you have to right click on each
19:45.29thulthat was so nice
19:45.34thulold decursive
19:45.49chiperif you click the frame, it will cast the spell regardless of is the debuff is there or not
19:45.57Twisterah
19:46.16Twisterso it dont even check using unitdebuff?
19:46.23Ellipsisonly to highlight them
19:46.33Twisterok
19:46.58chiperblah, my typing sucks today
19:50.25Pkekyo|seriously though
19:50.25Pkekyo|where's my knife?
19:51.43ShirikOnce upon a time, Decursive killed raids
19:51.44Shiriktrue story
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19:51.55thulTRUE
19:52.14Shirikthis is coming from the same guy that just said old decursive was "so nice" ?
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19:54.10chiperblah, steam still wants $50 for bioshock
19:54.26chiperamazon has it for half that
19:55.09robotuschhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/Wow/PhatRoll-1.jpg that's how you do a proper dkp roll, AMIRITE Fisker-?
19:55.21CIA-4803polarina 07Beta * r58987 10Ace3/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
19:55.21CIA-48Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0, AceComm-3.0, AceConsole-3.0, AceHook-3.0, AceTab-3.0, AceTimer-3.0:
19:55.21CIA-48- Added some upvalues for minor performance improvement.
19:55.21CIA-48- Removed some unused upvalues.
19:57.14thuloh, we were not ironic?
19:57.29Polarina?
19:58.58[Ammo]Polarina, don't commit directly to Ace3 pleas
19:59.08[Ammo]or we'll just have to lock it down again meh
19:59.20Polarina[Ammo]: I got permission...
19:59.30[Ammo]oh
19:59.40nevcairieli looked over the changes
19:59.47[Ammo]ah ok
19:59.56[Ammo]I go into defensive stance over that shit
20:00.15dylanmApparently.
20:01.18Polarinanevcairiel: Did I break something?
20:01.27nevcairielno
20:01.32Polarina:D
20:01.49cncfanaticsanyone know where I can get cheap shh proxies ? :p
20:01.55dre^dreamhost
20:02.25sbmhh
20:02.28dre^they're primarily focused on web hosting, but all their accounts come with ssh access
20:02.39dre^so you can do ssh tunnels / socks style proxies with 'em
20:02.46sbsomeone please tell my why all those people here use divine protection (NOT divine shield) in arena
20:02.47dre^works great, I've done it several times
20:03.00Pkekyo|Parent-teacher meetings are ok, but all hell broke loose when the teacher'd googled me
20:03.11Ellipsislulz
20:03.13dre^lol
20:03.18cncfanaticsPkekyo|: how so ? :o
20:03.33cncfanaticswhat did he google Pkekyo| ?
20:03.43Pkekyo|naught
20:04.10Pkekyo|j/k...it's a slogan for some internet privacy campaign :) just found it amusing
20:04.49chiperhah, cool, just found my original UT cd
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20:05.00chiperhavent played that game in so long
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20:06.30thulsb: on themselves? if so, dunno
20:08.10PolarinaAce3 is cool, good API and such, but it's lacking a decent coding standard between developers...
20:08.25Ellipsisit's in beta, I'm sure there's time to polish it up
20:08.34PolarinaEllipsis: :D
20:09.09cncfanaticssince when do devs using a same framework absolutely have to code in the same way ?
20:09.52chipercnc: I think Polarina meant within Ace3 itself
20:09.57Ellipsisyou should go read sylvanaar's post about over-optimizing or whatever the hell he was on about
20:09.57Polarinacncfanatics: Not coding the same way, but seeing both  t[i]=k  and  t[i] = k   is a bit confusing, nothing critical though.
20:10.06KazieCan anyone tell me why eePanels have another hight than set when you logon? ...
20:10.14cncfanaticsdre^: whats dreamhost's most cheap plan ?
20:10.15EllipsisPolarina: get an editor that corrects for that then
20:10.28PolarinaEllipsis: I have one.
20:10.38Ellipsisgreat, then what's the problem?
20:10.54PolarinaEllipsis: I didn't say there was a problem.
20:11.36PolarinaI was saying it is something that can be improved. :)
20:12.03chiperaww crap, avp2 doesnt support widescreen monitors
20:12.14dre^cncfanatics: I dunno, probably around $10 / mo or someething
20:12.18chiperhope theres an update
20:12.22dre^cncfanatics: www.dreamhost.com
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20:13.53cncfanatics$10/month is a bit expensive for just an ssh tunnel -.-
20:14.15Ellipsiswhat do you need "just" an ssh tunnel for?
20:14.39cncfanaticsto get around my host's stupid speed limitations
20:14.46Pkekyo|hmm...think ice tea in powder form tastes any good?
20:14.51cncfanaticsthey limit a lot of traffic, but they don't limit anything thats encrypted
20:15.06EllipsisPkekyo|: it's not bad in my experience
20:15.19Ellipsisalthough it's never actual iced tea, always "sweet tea"
20:15.26Ellipsiswhich is NOT the same
20:15.33Pkekyo|idc :)
20:15.55Pkekyo|could be interesting to snort it
20:16.51Pkekyo|what does the american "bb-guns" fire?
20:17.07ZarielIf you have an If statement with elseif in, and use an empty return does it end the if aswell?
20:17.09Ellipsisbbs
20:17.16PolarinaWhat is wrong? I wrote /join AceComm and then I got automatically kicked out of it...
20:17.31Pkekyo|Ellipsis: elaborate? :)
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20:18.29ZarielAirsoft guns!
20:18.40Pkekyo|BBs = ~0.20g round 6mm plastic bullets?
20:19.08Pkekyo|that've always confused me...on sitcoms people act like they've gotten shot with a proper airgun when someone shoots them with a BB
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20:20.50chipernot plastic
20:20.59chipersteel
20:21.53Pkekyo|ok, weird-ass air guns then
20:22.16Fisker-geesh Pkekyo|
20:22.18Fisker-i farted on you
20:22.31Pkekyo|nothanks Fisker-, I'm driving
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20:23.23Fisker-I DID
20:23.34KazieAnyone who knows a small and simple addon that is able to just move the default buff frame from the minimap?
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20:24.03Pkekyo|Fisker-: no u
20:24.05[Liquidor]Kazie, a macro
20:24.06Fisker-NO U
20:24.27Kaziea macro? :o.. how would that be able to do that?
20:24.37Kazieputting an unlock / lock script into the macro or something?
20:24.38[Liquidor]well where do you want it?
20:24.44Pkekyo|Fisker-: no u
20:25.14Kazielike 30 pixels down and 20 pixels to the left :)
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20:26.59CIA-4803ammo 07Beta * r58988 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:26.59CIA-48Ace3 - ACE-69
20:26.59CIA-48- Add IterateChatCommands to AceConsole
20:26.59CIA-48- RegisterChatCommand now returns true upon success
20:26.59CIA-48- Add GetChatCommandOptions to AceConfigCmd so AceTab can get the options table for a chatcommand
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20:29.01Pkekyo|"[Reading a book] Here's something I didn't know... They number every page!"
20:29.18Kazieno shit! :D
20:29.39Kaziehehe
20:31.10Fisker-what the fuck
20:31.13Fisker-cloverfield = fail
20:31.26Kaziecloverfield = what? :)
20:31.28Fisker-not as much as untraceable though
20:31.35Fisker-that J.J. Abrams movie
20:31.50Kazieyou're talking riddles to me now
20:31.51Kazie:P
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20:32.12Fisker-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield
20:32.49Pkekyo|Fisker-: what the flying fuck are you on about? :)
20:32.59Pkekyo|oh, that one
20:33.20Pkekyo|is it out yet?
20:33.24Fisker-yeah
20:33.58Fisker-there's some leaked scene where they have a "newsfootage" in the movie
20:34.02[SW]Dodgeany DogTag dev here? i have a suggestion for [Level] Tag
20:34.06Pkekyo|I should aquire it then
20:34.10Pkekyo|Fisker-: that's old
20:34.12Kaziesounds fail too
20:34.14Fisker-yeah Pkekyo|
20:34.16Fisker-BUT IT FAILS
20:34.35Fisker-not as much as untraceable though
20:34.48Fisker-where each visit to a website helps kill a man
20:34.59Fisker-here's an idea, it's called dns servers, erase the records faggots
20:35.17Stan_[SW]Dodge: there's just one "DogTag-Dev"
20:36.04[SW]Dodge:D
20:36.12[SW]Dodgewho is it :>
20:36.15[SW]Dodge+?
20:37.15CIA-4803peragor * r58989 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
20:37.15CIA-48GridStatusHealer:
20:37.15CIA-48- Added stealth detection (lowers priority)
20:37.15CIA-48- Added flask of petrification
20:37.33[SW]Dodgea found it... ckknight :D
20:37.49ckknight?
20:38.08[SW]Dodgeyou are the author of dogtag? :)
20:38.57Fisker-ckknight is a mac
20:39.00Fisker-and i'm a pc
20:39.10ckknight[SW]Dodge: sure am
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20:40.32[SW]Dodgei have a suggestion or a new "feature" for dogtag, since it seems to be possible to get the talents from hostile players ally can see horde talent specs it could be possible to make dogtag calculating an possible level if it is more than 10lvl above you
20:40.37KazieAnyone know how to move the default buff frame from the minimap just 20-30 pixels with macro? .. was told to do it by a macro.. but ... i have no idea how to do that :D
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20:43.39ckknight[SW]Dodge: hehe
20:43.43ckknight[SW]Dodge: seems interesting.
20:43.49ckknight[SW]Dodge: doable, too
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20:44.45CavistyIs there a way to make quartz go vertical
20:44.48Cavistyinstead of horizontal
20:45.49KazieNot atm. i believe cavisty
20:45.59Kaziewhy do you want a vertical casting bar? :P
20:46.09CavistyWell because I have my grid set up a certaint way
20:46.15[SW]Dodgeckknight: :-)
20:46.21Cavistylike, pitbull target frame above grid
20:46.25Cavistyand my player frame below it
20:46.37Cavistyit would be cool if i could have quartz player bar to the right
20:46.40Cavistyand the target bar to the left
20:46.43Cavistyof grid that is
20:48.32Chompersmore vashj problems, nagas keep killing people before tanks get to them, does anyone have any advice?
20:48.35CavistyIts kind of hard to explain, but do you know of any other castbars that will go vertical?
20:48.40Chompers:<
20:48.42CavistyChompers
20:48.51Cavistystick a paladin in the center with righteous fury on
20:49.05Cavistyand have him heal it up like a pro, every naga will go to the center
20:49.09Chompersbah!
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20:49.17Chomperseveryone i've asked says that
20:49.32CavistyIf you can't do that than just stick have 2 tanks in the center and intercept the nagas
20:49.42Cavistyyou only need 2 for vashj anyway
20:49.52Chompersyeah, no paladin
20:49.57Chompersso we're a little stuck
20:50.07Cavistyno paladin!? What!
20:50.17Chompersone dps, others a tank
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20:50.30Cavistyah
20:50.34Cavistytank paladin can do it
20:50.51Cavistyjust have him heal in the center, it wont be tanking anything else in phase 2 besides nagas
20:50.51Chompersa little like moro?
20:51.33Chompersgonna try that then
20:52.02CIA-4803boydon * r58990 10SmartQueue/Locale-deDE.lua:
20:52.02CIA-48SmartQueue:
20:52.02CIA-48- updated deDE locale
20:52.19Cavistyya just when its like 2-5 seconds till naga spawns, just have him spam some holy lights around
20:52.24Chompersyup
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20:54.48KazieAnyone who knows some stuff about moving buff frame and stuff?
20:56.06NeoTronhrm. I wonder which of the non-outdated spam filtering addons works best
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20:56.51OrionshockWIM's works nicely
20:57.42Chompersthat worked really well
20:57.45Chompersthanks Cavisty
20:58.24Chompersfirst core went perfectly
21:01.36Chompersif you put a knife really far into your ear, you get a surprise
21:02.56Pkekyo|I'm allready deaf on one ear :)
21:03.03Pkekyo|want to keep my hearing on the other one
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21:07.57Pkekyo|a-stray-cat: what's your author nick?
21:08.52Ellipsisshh, it's a secret
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21:09.11Pkekyo|no u Ellipsis
21:09.31Pkekyo|bwahahahha, don vito got busted for cocaine :)
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21:10.50KazieAnyone know what recounts anchor thing is called? .. Similar to OmenAnchor
21:10.51Mudkipzmaybe he was trying to lose weight
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21:11.24Mudkipztry mousing over recount and use that anchor finding macro?
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21:11.35KazieAnchor finding macro?
21:11.47Kazieehm.. i'm afraid i don't know any anchor finding macros ^^
21:12.29Mudkipz"/print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
21:12.29MudkipzEND
21:13.57Kazieit returns end :o
21:14.08Pkekyo|If a fat girl falls over in the woods...does the trees laugh?
21:14.09Kaziein the chat
21:14.22KazieNope
21:14.27KazieThe trees don't laugh
21:14.40Pkekyo|whyes nuts? :<
21:14.42Mudkipzhow would you know?
21:14.48Mudkipzyou aren't there to witness it
21:14.54Pkekyo|indeed
21:15.30KazieTrees can't laugh ^^
21:15.47KazieMudkipz: the macro just says END in my chat :o
21:15.51Pkekyo|go watch lord of the rings you heathen
21:16.04KazieThose trees don't laugh either ^^
21:16.04Mudkipzoh :(
21:16.17Pkekyo|do you speak entish, mr. know-it-all?!
21:16.18Mudkipzyou took off the " right?
21:16.27KazieYes
21:16.32Mudkipzwhat does it say if you mouse over other things on the ui?
21:16.51KazieI tried moving up the END on line 1 ... but then it returned some crazy stuff like ")" expecting near END or something :o
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21:17.18Kaziethen it just sayd END in the chat.. after moving the END word up .. it returned some ")" expecting near END or something other
21:17.26Mudkipzoh
21:17.36Mudkipztry deleting END ... maybe that doesn't belong in there
21:17.52Kazienow it works ^^
21:17.58KazieRecount_MainWindow it said
21:18.12Mudkipzthat might be it
21:18.14Kazieor.. echo'd / Printed or whatever wow does :D
21:18.39RecluseD=
21:18.50Mudkipzpersonally I went thru a lot of trial and error with anchors when I was playing with eepanels
21:18.58Mudkipzwhich is the reason why I even know that macro
21:18.59KazieMudkipz: Do you know how to move the default buff frame at the minimap 20-30 pixels on the X and Y axes?
21:19.24Mudkipzum
21:19.36Kaziehehe.. eePanels are nice.. although my eePanels on my chats have diffrent hight than the settings says untill i fold and unfold the chat with Minichat
21:20.00Mudkipznot sure if recount has options to adjust it per pixel
21:20.35Mudkipzall I did was hook the anchor to a panel and made sure to auto resized
21:21.29KazieWhat do you mean?
21:21.59Mudkipzhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels_Scripts
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21:24.30KazieAha
21:24.32Kazienice..
21:25.07Kaziebut the pixels stuff was about if you knew how to move the Default Buff frame at the minimap :) .. hehe.. was told to do it by a macro.. but i can't find anything about it :o
21:25.18PolarinaI need a good idea for some kind of a addon. I would like to try out Ace3 too. :P
21:25.37Mudkipzoh... default
21:25.55MudkipzI've been using elkbuffbars for a long time
21:25.59Mudkipzwouldn't know anything about that
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21:26.17KaziePolarina, if you can make something to ONLY unlock/lock the default buff frame that would be imba :D
21:26.18Kaziehehe
21:26.25KazieI don't like EBB :S
21:26.26Cavisty[#wowace]
21:26.31Cavistyhttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8017/auijanuary20qg7.jpg
21:26.33CavistyAny suggestions?
21:27.30KazieCavisty, the PallyPower textures.. how did you change that? .. default option in PP or something?
21:28.00ProvusHey Shadowed, good job on Afflicted, I just updated and it works great, I added Beast Within to the buffs and that's worked great in my battlegroup
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21:28.16CavistyKazie: I think thats default, I dont remember changing anything
21:28.21CIA-4803parnic * r58991 10IceHUD/ (. IceCastBar.lua IceHUD.toc):
21:28.21CIA-48IceHUD:
21:28.21CIA-48- implemented Quartz's method of checking spell interrupts through the chat interrupt events for hostile damage to attempt to fix IceCastBar not showing player interrupts
21:28.24Kaziehehe okay :)
21:28.26Pkekyo|STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT!
21:28.29CavistyMaybe its just the border?
21:29.01Pkekyo|mh...wrong chan
21:29.01Kazielol Pkekyo|:D
21:29.01Ellipsisoh shi-
21:29.01EllipsisPkekyo|, do you know something I don't?!
21:29.01KazieI don't know.. maybe it's changed since i got my PallyPower.. :P
21:29.08Pkekyo|Ellipsis: mmmmaybe?
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21:31.41CIA-4803kagaro * r58992 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: We only do nearby check and not fir a new event if the node already exists at x,y
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21:34.26thulhmm
21:40.35Pkekyo|gotta love it when the first reply as you yell "Call an ambulance" is "what did you do?!" :p
21:40.55Ellipsiso.O
21:41.52KazieAnyone me how to get into BuffFrame.xml file in wow?
21:42.08CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r58993 10Routes/ (Locale-enUS.lua Routes.lua):
21:42.08CIA-48Routes: - Change update throttle to 0.025s, since an internal update distance default throttle has a max of 36 redraws/sec at the current max flying speed
21:42.08CIA-48- Fix waypoints aceopt table
21:42.08CIA-48- Fully implement route creation from either/or Cartographer/GatherMate data. WHOA it works now!!!
21:42.10CIA-4803kagaro * r58994 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: updated collector addItem logic to only fire an event first time a multi-tap node is found
21:42.16Kaziei found it here: http://wdnaddons.com/0337799 .. so i figured it is some files that are available to everyone or? :o
21:42.31Pkekyo|:)
21:42.54EllipsisKazie: the files are available for everyone to look at, but you can't modify them in your own client
21:43.01CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58995 10Mapster/ (FogClear.lua Mapster.toc): Mapster: add FogClear module, no options yet
21:43.01KazieAuw :s
21:43.21KazieEllipsis: I finaly thought i cracked my problem on moving the Buff Frame at the minimap 20-30 pixels...
21:43.34Gnarfozwhy has Inifity Blade got to be one-handed?
21:43.36KazieEllipsis: Do you know how to do so? .. without installing big addons such as Moveanything..
21:43.44Gnarfozcan you equip something into the off hand by macro?
21:43.46EllipsisKazie: write an addon that just does that
21:43.48kagarois 40 yards the max radius a gas clouds roams ?
21:43.55Kaziebut i have no idea how to :s
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21:44.09KazieI can't even find out what the anchor of the buff frame is called :S
21:44.12CIA-4803shen * r58996 10PoliteWhisper/localization.lua: PoliteWhisper Extended: Some localization issues.
21:44.21Pkekyo|goddamnit, lost a wingnut >.<
21:44.39EllipsisPkekyo|: I hear they have some very convincing prosthetics available these days for that problem
21:45.10Pkekyo|what the flyin gfuck are you on about?!
21:45.18Pkekyo|go find a hardware store
21:45.25Ellipsislol
21:45.27KazieEllipsis: You wouldn't by any chance be able to point me in the right direction of whereabout to learn how to make such small addon? :)
21:45.37Pkekyo|Kazie:  ------------>
21:45.44EllipsisKazie: well, what do you think would help? looking at one that's already written
21:45.45Ellipsis?
21:45.56EllipsisI'm guessing if there was one like that out there, you'd already be using it, and your problem would be solved
21:46.15Pkekyo|I have to admit my answer was better than yours, Ellipsis
21:46.19KazieI have been looking, but i haven't succeeded in finding one
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21:46.31Arrowmasterwhat do you want to do?
21:46.41kagarois there a simple hash function available in wow api or lua proper?
21:47.18KazieArrowmaster: Move the default buff frame some pixels - if you asked me :)
21:47.28Kaziethe buff frame at the minimap
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21:50.38ArrowmasterTemporaryEnchantFrame:ClearAllPoints()
21:51.03KazieWhat's that do?
21:51.36ArrowmasterTemporaryEnchantFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT", x, y)
21:51.36Pkekyo|coins with holes in the centre are awesome
21:51.45Arrowmasterreplace x and y with some numbers
21:52.03Arrowmasterrepeat both commands till you figure out what numbers you want
21:52.22Kazieahh
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21:52.32KazieSo TemporaryEnchantFrame is the BUff frame or?
21:52.49Arrowmasterits the frame for weapon buffs like poisons and windfury
21:52.57Arrowmasterother buff frames are anchored to it
21:53.08KazieAhh nice
21:53.22KazieDoes it move the debuff frame also?
21:53.29Arrowmastershould
21:54.05KazieOkay.. only one way to check that :)
21:54.26KazieShould put both commands in the same macro?
21:54.35Kaziewith ClearAllPoints on line 1 and the other on line 2 or something?
22:00.00KazieThx arrowmaster :P that worked just as it should :P hehe... i just hope it's still there when i relog :P
22:00.11Arrowmasterit wont
22:00.13thulhmm
22:00.27CIA-4803ammo * r58997 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: GatherMate: fix drycode errors
22:00.30Arrowmastermake a new addon and put those as the only 2 lines in it
22:01.10KazieHow do i do that?
22:01.23KazieJust make some folder and a .lua file or?
22:03.05PolarinaAceComm:error("Cannot serialize a function")   -- Why the hell can't it use string.dump(<function>)?
22:03.41[Ammo]local upvalues etc etc
22:03.45[Ammo]you can't just send a function over comm
22:03.55[Ammo]it won't have the same data the original has access to
22:04.17PolarinaOk.
22:05.10[Ammo]and if someone wants to really send one
22:05.13[Ammo]they can by doing so themselves
22:05.21[Ammo]by then they know what they're doing
22:05.24Polarina:)
22:05.32[Ammo]at least I hope they do
22:06.09Polarina:P
22:10.40KazieHow long would you guys say that it takes for a lime green addon author to make an addon that does waht these do "TemporaryEnchantFrame:ClearAllPoints()" and "TemporaryEnchantFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT", x, y)"
22:10.53KazieBut making it so ppl can actually enter the numbers in a frame and click ok
22:10.55Kazieand reset
22:11.10Grummake it yourself!
22:12.02KazieThat's my plan
22:12.05Kaziethat's why i'm asking
22:12.12KazieI know nothing of scripting lua..
22:12.29Kazie"lime green" = rookie2tm
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22:18.37thulhaha
22:18.46thulI want to buy a half automatic 12 gauge.
22:18.52thulmy over/under is nice enough
22:20.13Pkekyo|rofl
22:20.30Pkekyo|12 gauges looks like loads of fun
22:20.46Xinhuanlua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t, key) print("1") end}) print(t[nil])
22:20.46lua_botXinhuan: 1, nil
22:20.48thulthey are
22:20.55thulespecially with magnum ammo
22:21.43Orionshockok.. now have a need for gathermate...
22:22.13kagaroWhats that Orionshock
22:22.20Orionshocki fish
22:22.37CIA-4803nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58998 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: add options to FogClear module
22:23.03kagarosend me your fish db then :P
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22:23.28Zhinjioso whats gathermate going to do that other gatherer type addons don't?
22:23.31Orionshockask the dude on the forums for the wowhead fish db
22:23.33Orionshock:P
22:23.45OrionshockZhinjio: be updated and new?
22:23.47kagaroI grabbed all i could from the forums
22:23.52Orionshocklike all the ones that came before it
22:24.08Grumkagaro: Cartographer_Notes sucks cpu like madness
22:24.12Grumerm .. lol
22:24.16GrumZhinjio
22:24.27kagaroGatherMate_Data has all the fish db data from the forums in it
22:24.30Grumand Gatherer is even worse .. by *eons*
22:26.28Grumvery simply put: GatherMate does what Cartographer_Notes+Fishing+Gas+Mining+Herbalism do but without resources
22:26.41nevcairielnot all what _Notes does tho
22:26.45Grumtrue
22:26.47nevcairielbut all thats needed
22:26.48Grumjust the stuff people use :P
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22:28.05PolarinaGood night.
22:33.18CIA-4803peragor * r58999 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
22:33.18CIA-48GridStatusHealer:
22:33.18CIA-48- Added Invisibility & Lesser Invisibility to hidden detection
22:33.42CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59000 10Routes/ (. Data.lua Routes.lua Routes.toc TSP.lua embeds.xml): Routes: Remove dependency on LibTourist-3.0 completely
22:34.15OrionshockWOOT 59000!
22:34.16KazieIt i worth trying that "AddOn Studio for World of Warcraft" when you are a 100% newbie on addon creation?
22:34.58Gngskgrats xin on 59kth commit!
22:35.08Xinhuan:o
22:35.48Kivinugh, wow server(s?) just died
22:35.56CIA-4803trasher * r59001 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
22:35.56CIA-48AtlasLoot:
22:35.56CIA-48- french update
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22:36.08OzguliKivin yea I logged off
22:36.09OrionshockKazie: i assume you meant to ask "Is that "AddOn Studio for WoW" worth trying?
22:36.12Ozgulithey weren't neccessary anymore
22:36.31KazieOrionshock: I guess you can put it that way.. but is it? :)
22:36.43Orionshockmeh, if your doing XML design it's good
22:37.06Orionshockother than that, i couldn't like it ... just not my way of programing
22:37.53KazieOrionshock: My goal is to put "TemporaryEnchantFrame:ClearAllPoints()" and "TemporaryEnchantFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT", x, y)" into an addon where the user can do it by entering values for the placement of the frame.. and reset and such..
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22:38.23Orionshockslash command imo, very easy to do
22:38.33Kazieyea /script
22:38.43KazieBut to keep the settings i need to make an addon Arrowmaster said
22:38.47Orionshockno, a formal slash command
22:38.59Kazieokay i think you lost me
22:39.02Orionshockya, simple addon simple slash command
22:39.12Pkekyo|it can't be normal, laughing so hard that you fall on your head
22:39.12Orionshocki could prolly make if for you in 10mins or less
22:39.17Kazieye .. that's what i was thinking.. nothing fancy gfx or anything
22:40.44KazieOrionshock: Can you point me in direction of where i could learn to do so? :)
22:41.21Orionshocki cannot , because i don't know where to point you really, other than at the wiki
22:41.51Kaziewowwiki?
22:42.16Orionshockhttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command
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22:44.47Kazieahh.. that seems very simple actually.. Then i'll just have to find a place where i can learn how to write the code/commands :P
22:45.00XinhuanRoutes is "usable" now, if anyone cares
22:45.12Xinhuantotal time taken to port from Rock to Ace3: 2 days
22:45.20Orionshockif your good enough to reverse enginer something... i can write up a sample that will do what you want it to do
22:46.22Kaziereverse enginer?
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22:47.00Orionshockreverse engineer, as in disassemble the code to where you actually do understand what it's doing.
22:48.04KazieI doubt that i have those skills just yet :)
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22:51.31CIA-4803ackis * r59002 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua:
22:51.31CIA-48AckisRecipeList:
22:51.31CIA-48- Enchanting update
22:51.34CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59003 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Fix rotate minimap to actually work.
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22:52.48WogroiplXinhuan, would that work with a square minimap, because it used to act odd
22:52.57Xinhuani don't know
22:53.09Xinhuanyou shouldn't be using rotate minimap on square minimaps anyway
22:53.25Xinhuanall i fixed is for the route to rotate along with it
22:53.42WogroiplI'm not, because it acted odd :P
22:53.47CIA-4803kagaro * r59004 10/branches/GatherMate/ (7 files in 5 dirs): GatherMate: fixed add item logic
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22:54.51Orionshockkazie...
22:54.56Orionshocknub left irc...
22:55.14Orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/80970
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22:59.12chiperis there a way to teach cartographer that I have a square minimap?
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23:01.32MentalPowerfunction GetMinimapShape() return "SQUARE" end
23:01.36Orionshockkagaro: your fish module however is borked
23:01.36MentalPowerthat should work
23:01.54kagarowhats failing Orionshock
23:02.22KazieOrionshock: are .xml used for anything but the more graphical structuring of an addon? .. prolly a nub question ^^
23:02.23Orionshockit's not picking up nodes miles from each other
23:03.32OrionshockKazie: nope - just frame definitions, you can write some handlers into the xml, but alot of ppl prefer to use lua to do alot of framing stuff.
23:03.49OrionshockKazie: http://ace.pastey.net/80970
23:04.02CIA-4803alar * r59005 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc):
23:04.02CIA-48AlarLib
23:04.02CIA-48Fixed ClipChildren
23:04.17Kazieaha okay.. so you actually don't need .xml files for your addon, if i understand correctly?
23:04.24Orionshockcorrect
23:05.08KazieWow.. i think that's the first thing i got correct today :)
23:05.22Kaziethe code you pasted on ace.pastey.net... is that the lua i need? :o
23:05.24Pkekyo|bah, now I've -really- got to start that bloody article
23:05.34Orionshockya that should work
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23:06.03Orionshockkagaro: it's also freezing my UI when i try to loot my fish
23:06.07KazieOkay.. and you named the addon TEFM or something?
23:06.09Mezir|SemiAFKoi peeps
23:06.14Mezir|SemiAFKwtf does fubar2 do?
23:06.20CIA-4803alar * r59006 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc):
23:06.20CIA-48AlarTTFrame
23:06.20CIA-484.0.5
23:06.20CIA-48Fixed: Sometimes, wrong AlarLib version was loaded
23:06.27Mezir|SemiAFKo.o i cant see the difference
23:06.30kagaroreally?
23:06.33OrionshockMezir|SemiAFK: don't ask, and don't use if you don't understand what it's for
23:06.39Mezir|SemiAFKlol
23:06.46Orionshockit's an older version of FuBar that is keept arround for legacy sake
23:06.57Mezir|SemiAFKk thx
23:07.07Orionshock"FuBar" as seen on the files site is the most recent and what you should be installing
23:07.23KazieIt fools many users :)
23:07.26CIA-4803alar * r59007 10AlarBGHelper/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
23:07.26CIA-48AlarBGHelper
23:07.26CIA-483.3.1
23:07.26CIA-48Fixed: AV window doesnt autoresize anymore on system messages
23:07.26CIA-48Fixed: If you installed ABH really long time ago, you had some garbage in
23:07.27CIA-48your saved data. Now it is removed on first use. If ABH was more than 1M for you, that is your case.
23:07.29CIA-48Now ABH should never use more then 350-370K
23:07.49Orionshockkagaro: u got some way to debug this?
23:08.07KazieOrionshock: is the name of the addon TEFM according to your code?
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23:08.11kagaroyeah, ill get to it in a minute working out a logc bug
23:08.33Mezir|SemiAFKwhat xp bars better (your opinion) XPBar None or FuXpfu?
23:08.48CIA-4803alar * r59008 10AlarAutomation/ (4 files):
23:08.48CIA-48AlarAutomation
23:08.48CIA-483.2.1
23:08.48CIA-48Upgrade: AlarLib upgraded
23:08.52Mezir|SemiAFKor even something totally different
23:09.07OrionshockKazie: TEFM is just the object name, you can name the addon anything. Just make sure you pu TEFM_DB as a SavedVariable in the ToC file, and that the folder name and .toc file have the same name
23:09.15Mezir|SemiAFK^^ sry for the questions starting to build a new ui and many things changed
23:11.02Mezir|SemiAFKyeah right ignore the idiot askin his stupid questions <_< sry but i thought t'was k to ask here
23:11.22Mezir|SemiAFKand sorry for my bad english i live in a country at worlds ass -_-
23:11.37CIA-4803kagaro * r59009 10/branches/GatherMate_Data/GatherMateData.lua: GatherMate_Data: fixed dry code error
23:11.47KazieOkay, just from what i understood from wowwiki HOWTO slash cmd... it was SlashCmdList["Addonname"] :)
23:12.12Orionshockit's not that we ignore your questions Mezir|SemiAFK , it's just that the best answer anyone is giong to give you "Download it and try it out, we cannot tell you what you like your UI to be"
23:12.59CIA-4803xinhuan 07Ace3 * r59010 10Routes/Routes.lua: Routes: Move the aceopt table from the top of the file to near the bottom. Also added code to make the "toggle minimap drawing" option work.
23:13.06AeyanMezir|SemiAFK, yeah those are just sort of a personal preference
23:13.08KazieMezir|SemiAFK: To answer your question.. FuXP...
23:13.21AeyanDepends on what you want to do with your fubar, etc
23:14.00KazieTrue dat
23:14.42Mezir|SemiAFKwell im trying to make an easy to use nice looking but comfortable interface for me and my mates, its like my 1000th but erm i try to make it lowprofile, too tho o.o
23:15.05AeyanI use FuXPFu because I have a auto-hidden full width fubar up at the top of my screen
23:15.18Mezir|SemiAFKso it doesnt use too much memory (for me it doesnt matter but some friends puters suck)
23:15.19[Ammo]fuxpfu just looks pretty
23:15.25KazieFuXP as Aeyan mentions... covers your whole fubar width
23:15.29[Ammo]that's why I use it
23:15.58KazieI use it because it simply gives me the information i want.. i only have a 200px wide fubar ^^
23:16.03Mezir|SemiAFKk sounds good ill give it a shot, until yesterdy (when my interface got fucked up by a disconnect) is use xpbarnone o.o
23:16.18Mezir|SemiAFK*i
23:16.24Mezir|SemiAFK*used
23:16.32Mezir|SemiAFKlol should read before i press enter <_<
23:16.55Mezir|SemiAFK<3 ace :>
23:17.49Mezir|SemiAFKdoes it show reputation, too? (so its not useless when you're 70)
23:18.02[Ammo]yeah
23:18.07Mezir|SemiAFKkk
23:18.37Mezir|SemiAFKwhere you guys from? (just interested)
23:18.51AeyanI think the next UI I make is going to squish my fubar down to just icons in a little block under my minimap
23:19.03AeyanI'll probably get rid of it then, but I'll miss it
23:20.25Mezir|SemiAFKAnd anything better (again your opinion) than omen and violation? ^^
23:20.26KazieOrionshock: Of all curiousity.. TEFM could that be replace with anything as long as it's a "global" replacement? .. Just to make it a bit more simple to my newb brain ;D
23:21.08AeyanI use Violation and Omen
23:21.17ChompersRecount and Omen baby
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23:21.18AeyanYou could use Assessment or Violation for both though
23:21.34OrionshockKazie: ya, it's what's call the addon object. Only your addon's object and db should be the globals you use, everything else either get's stem'ed off that or is local.
23:21.43Chompersrecount as it does have the kitchen sink in it, somewhere
23:23.21Recluselevel 60 mount is 600/100 before discount, correct?
23:23.21CIA-4803nevcairiel * r59011 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: fix rotating minimap issues
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23:23.30KazieOrionshock: Okay.. i think i got it..
23:23.31Orionshockactualy you could just use assessment , it has a threat meter built into it
23:23.41Mezir|SemiAFKkk the only thing i dislike is that vio and omen dont match each other (just a ,,looks'' optinion)
23:24.06AntiarcYou can use Assessment for threat or make Omen match Assesment's looks easily
23:24.21AeyanYeah, or just use skinner
23:24.25KazieMezir|SemiAFK: I use Omen and Recount.. you can make both transparent.. so they will patch pretty good :) ... i use them with eePanels.
23:24.27AeyanThough that might be a little overboard
23:24.32Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-bt.jpg <-- see Omen and Assessment in the bottom right
23:24.34AeyanOh yeah, or eepanels
23:24.43ChompersAntiarc!
23:24.48Antiarc<PROTECTED>
23:24.59Chompersslash hug
23:25.04Mezir|SemiAFKolol
23:25.07Kazieif you Parent your eePanel to "Omen" and "Recount_MainWindow" the eePanels will only show when Omen and recount is visible
23:25.07gixis there any easy way to enable that loopback-thingy for acecomm?
23:25.08Mezir|SemiAFKhow'd you do that?
23:25.27AntiarcBoth Omen and Assessment are highly configurable in terms of display
23:25.53Mezir|SemiAFKlooks really nice
23:25.59Mezir|SemiAFK./clap man
23:26.43Mezir|SemiAFKthe thing id like to do too is to make grid easy accessable like in the middle of the bottom
23:26.58Mezir|SemiAFKbut would look strange if the group gets bigger than 10peeps
23:27.01Mezir|SemiAFKany idead?
23:27.05Mezir|SemiAFK*-d -.-
23:27.39KazieI use raid frames from Pitbull
23:27.47KazieI simply got annoyed by grid
23:27.53Mezir|SemiAFKdunno why but i dont like pitbull
23:27.55Chomperschrsit Antiarc, that warriors got some serious dps going
23:28.09AntiarcChompers: Heh, the RoS trash is super warrior-friendly
23:28.11CIA-4803kagaro * r59012 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Config.lua): GatherMate: fixes for config and fish for import, and node recording duplicates
23:28.15AntiarcAnd he's a tiny god anyhow, so yeah
23:28.19Chompershaha
23:28.21Kaziematter of taste rly Mezir|SemiAFK :)
23:28.27Chompersi remember you talking about him ages ago
23:28.53Mezir|SemiAFKand erm, what about unitframes? i liked somple unitframes (i personally like the blizz look) but what would you use instead? (has to be userfriendly ^^)
23:28.58Chomperswish the vashj elementals would hit me back, i follow them up the stairs auto attacking
23:29.08AntiarcI use PitBull. agUF are also good
23:29.32Chomperspitbull isnt really that user friendly
23:29.44Chompersbut its the best choice in the long term
23:29.45CIA-4803nevcairiel * r59013 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: simplify rotation code again
23:29.46Mezir|SemiAFKi think so, too
23:30.04Mezir|SemiAFKaguf, hmmm
23:30.10CIA-4803grum 07Ace3 * r59014 10Routes/ (Cartographer.lua GatherMate.lua): Routes: Evil drycode push with refactored code for different data sources (GatherMate/Cartographer).
23:31.21Pkekyo|"Where did you learn your parenting skills?!
23:31.21Pkekyo|- Korea!"
23:31.21Pkekyo|^^
23:31.37KazieChompers: You're right.. that's why i quickly went back to aguf when i first tried it.. but now.. i'll never go back unless Pitbull is discontinued.
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23:32.42Chompersaye, its top stuff
23:32.58Chomperspitbull for your targets and parties, grid for your raid
23:33.41Mezir|SemiAFKlol -.- thinking bout ,,whitch chats should i set up'' for an hour now...
23:33.57Mezir|SemiAFKcombatlog, main, and erm talk?
23:34.05Mezir|SemiAFKnot sure tho
23:34.05Chomperssimplecombatlog
23:34.09Chompersand Prat for chat
23:34.10KazieChompers: Actually Pitbull fits me SO much more than Grid.. :) .. i just love everything in Pitbull :)
23:34.19Mezir|SemiAFKdidnt mean that
23:34.28Mezir|SemiAFKlike which chats
23:34.35SunTsuMezir|SemiAFK: I normally do guild, whispers, combat and party for parties, raids, bgs
23:34.46ChompersWIM for wispers
23:34.50Chompersif that's your thing
23:34.58Mezir|SemiAFKhm an idea...
23:35.05Mezir|SemiAFKbut that would be one more addon...
23:35.13Mezir|SemiAFK<_< trying too make it low profile
23:35.34Chompersoh my, cinara is 2 handed :O
23:36.02Antiarcyeah
23:36.16Mezir|SemiAFKmaybe i should really try to work myself into pitbull
23:36.23Antiarchttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Cinara
23:36.24Chompersi had to go fury to stay competitive
23:36.25Mezir|SemiAFKeverybody seems to like it
23:36.40Chomperswhen/if i get my cats edge, its 2 hander time
23:36.52AeyanIt's nice if you want a massive amount of options
23:37.33KreigerAny of you guys familar with WWS?
23:37.35Mezir|SemiAFKid like many options just afraid that it is, whats the word...
23:37.38Chompersman, i cant imagine what his whirlwinds are like
23:37.40KreigerLike, enough to help guide me through it?
23:37.58Mezir|SemiAFK...uncleaer?
23:38.13KazieMezir|SemiAFK and Chompers: http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/3.jpg <-- i used Pitbull at all frames there :) it's pure awesomeness
23:38.27Chompersthey're pretty sweet
23:38.39Mezir|SemiAFKnot bad
23:38.42Mezir|SemiAFKi like it
23:38.48KreigerKazie, that'[s pretty nice. thats the pitbull raid frames?
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23:38.59Mezir|SemiAFKjust git an idea for a new addon
23:39.03KazieIt's pitbull raid, party, player, target, ToT .. eveyrthing
23:39.06Mezir|SemiAFKdunno if smthn like that exists
23:39.53Mezir|SemiAFKan addon making backups of you interface in the background everytime you set it up to do so, like every 3 days or smthn and deleting it whe its older than that
23:40.11KazieMezir|SemiAFK: Use WAU .. afaik it does backups or something
23:40.13Mezir|SemiAFKwould have loved something like that before it f'd up my interface
23:40.23Mezir|SemiAFKo.o wau makes backups?
23:40.27Mezir|SemiAFKwhere?
23:40.29SunTsuMezir|SemiAFK: Just backup your SavedVariables
23:40.38KreigerKazie, what Scale is that UI at?
23:40.45Mezir|SemiAFKyeah sun but i want to do it auto so i dont have to think abaout it
23:41.21KazieMezir|SemiAFK: In your wow directory
23:41.21KazieKreiger: Phew.. i'm not sure i remember.. 0.70 or something
23:41.21Mezir|SemiAFKman my ui was so nice :(
23:41.21KreigerCause.. here. lemme link mine.
23:41.53Kreigerhttp://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myuixo0.jpg
23:41.53KazieI'm still annoyed that i did not pack it instead of deleting it as i did with all my other addons ^^ hehe
23:41.59KreigerWhat do you guys think?
23:42.13Mezir|SemiAFKo.o why doesnt my fubar show the addon prefrence button anymore, lol?
23:42.20Mezir|SemiAFKi just can set up minimap
23:43.09Kaziebecause you set it not to show.. open your Fubar settings and set it to show again :)
23:43.11Mezir|SemiAFKthe maps a lil messy (just my opinion)
23:43.14Kazieor use Niagara :)
23:43.25Mezir|SemiAFKbut its not in the list anymore
23:43.26Arrowmasterright click fubar and use the dropdown to select addon preferences
23:43.36Arrowmasterits not fubar adding that its rock
23:43.50KreigerMezir|SemiAFK, i know it is. i'm not too worried about the map. more concerned with how big everything seems to be compared to Kazie's
23:43.58KazieKreiger: It's a bit clamped or what it's called for my taste.. but i am very systematic when i make my UIs ... Atm. i do minimalistic.. and that i just posted is simply just not minimalistic enough :)
23:44.01KreigerWish i had more space
23:44.25KazieKreiger, hmm.. well.. you can do that in several ways rly :)
23:44.32KreigerWell, i'm an information whore. i'm MT for my guild so i have to keep track of what;s going on, so i need the meters
23:44.33Mezir|SemiAFKsry arrow i didnt understand you... :(
23:44.41Chompersi don't see Omen on Antiarcs ui
23:44.47AntiarcIt's in the lower right
23:44.50AntiarcNext to Assessment
23:44.51KreigerSo i can yell at people for screwing up. I do that alot.
23:45.00KreigerAntiarc, lemme see your ui? i didn't catch the link
23:45.10Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-bt.jpg
23:45.11Chompersoh yeah, lawl
23:45.12KazieKreiger: At my screenshot you see 1 chat open and 1 closed.. use Minichat to fold and unfold your chats.. that gives you a lot nicer look when the chat is not needed.
23:45.29ArrowmasterMezir|SemiAFK: right click blank spot on fubar
23:45.29Stan_Antiarc: huge group frames^^
23:45.32Kreigerminichat? hmm. i'm using prat atm. is minichat a replacement for that?
23:45.41Arrowmasterin rock config select addon preferences in the drop down
23:45.44Mjrnno
23:45.44AntiarcStan_: I play at 1920x1200 - I have pixels to spare ;)
23:45.46KazieKreiger: http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/ <-- try looking at the NO_party and PArty screenshots Kreiger :)
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23:45.53Arrowmasterselect option to show minimap icon
23:46.00Stan_Antiarc: me too but I want that pixels to show the game :P
23:46.02Mjrnit works hand in hand
23:46.04Kreigerty, mate
23:46.08AeyanNo, minichat is an addon that expands and collapses your chat window when new messages come in
23:46.25KreigerAhh. that would be cool. i wish i had a way to make it fade away. lol
23:46.26AeyanWell, something like that
23:46.32Kaziefold/unfold and expand/collapse is the same thing Aeyan ^^
23:47.01AeyanI was responding to Kreiger
23:47.08KazieI know
23:47.08AeyanHe asked afterwards =P
23:47.16Stan_Antiarc: http://up.stantown.de/files/WoWScrnShot_012108_004625.jpg WIP
23:47.18Kazieahh
23:47.20Mezir|SemiAFKlol building interfaces is nearly more fun than playin wow <_<
23:47.20Mezir|SemiAFKlol
23:47.22Kaziedidn't see that lol
23:47.43KreigerKazie, i just like how much space you have free.
23:47.50KazieStan_: Lol.. that looks somewhat like my current UI i'm making :P hehe
23:47.51Kreigermaybe i'll try scaling my UI a bit.
23:48.01KreigerI'm pretty sure it's on default atm
23:48.13Stan_Kazie: ^^
23:48.15KazieStan_: Unitframes, bars, chats are almost the same plces :P .. but 2 chats with unitframes/bars between is what i'm making also :P hehe
23:48.16AeyanThat's a pretty UI, Stan
23:48.21KreigerAnd i do like the raid frames like that. i'm not sure i need them like that
23:48.37KazieAll with eePanels that only shows when the addon it covers shows :)
23:48.50KazieAlong with party eePanels that only shows when i'm in a party or raid :) .. luv eePanels
23:48.51KreigerStan_, the party frames. is that Pit?
23:49.03AeyanI don't really like my UI now
23:49.16AeyanI got a new widescreen monitor and now everything is too spaced out
23:49.32Kaziehaha :)
23:49.35AeyanBut... I guess I've had it long enough that looking back at my old setup looks cramped =P
23:49.40KazieWidescreen is essential for minimalistic UIs :P
23:50.06Chompersindeed
23:50.16Chompersrather too spaced out than cluttered
23:50.38CIA-4803nargiddley 07Beta * r59015 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/ (AceGUIWidget-DropDown.lua AceGUIWidget-Frame.lua): Ace3 - AceGUI: Restore Frame widget's strata on Aquire, Reset Dropdown group's label on Aquire
23:51.00CIA-4803kagaro * r59016 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: GatherMate: fixed bug in fish detection
23:51.03Stan_Kreiger: yeah pitbull
23:51.27KaziePitbull > anything IMO :P
23:51.34AeyanBefore: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/tweaked-1.jpg
23:51.37AeyanAfter: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/wide_state.jpg
23:52.22Stan_Aeyan: what's the chat font?
23:52.27AeyanSkurri
23:52.39Stan_never
23:52.47KazieCentury Gothic <3
23:52.49AeyanIt is, hehe
23:53.11Stan_lol
23:53.24Stan_Skurri looks completly different O.o
23:53.36AeyanYeah, I've had several people say that
23:53.41AeyanBut that's what it looks like on mine
23:53.50KazieIt looks like Verdana
23:53.56KazieAnd i'm almost sure of it to be Verdana
23:54.01Kazieby the looks
23:54.01Stan_or Arial Narrow
23:54.10AeyanNo, it's too bold
23:54.12KazieArial Narrow is "taller" than that
23:54.21KazieI think it's verdana bold
23:54.21Mezir|SemiAFKwell, tried fuxp fu but xpbarnone looks better in my eyes
23:54.23Mezir|SemiAFKo.o
23:54.25AeyanMy irc is in verdana
23:54.33KazieSo is mine
23:54.42Kazieyou need to keep in mind that your in-game font is in bold :)
23:55.04KazieMight just be Arial rly
23:55.08Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/images/zjui8/main.jpg
23:55.49KazieVery nice Zhinjio :) .. tho it's too graphical to my taste :P
23:56.29Chompersfeels a little like a porthole
23:56.43Stan_looks like HalfLife1 HUD :P
23:57.54ZhinjioI've never liked having UI elements just floating in space. I always feel like things should be anchored to something.
23:58.04Zhinjiothats why I do it that way... but no: not very minimalist.
23:58.24Zhinjioand I know most people don't like it that way. *shrug*

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