| 00:00.06 | Thrae | I think I mean v2.x, and v1.x is on the Ace SVN |
| 00:00.06 | chiper | niv: I'm afraid it wont be nearly as cool as Smash Bros. Home Run Bat, however |
| 00:00.38 | NivFreak | oh man |
| 00:00.38 | NivFreak | I can't wait for the new smash bros |
| 00:00.38 | NivFreak | I can take a break from WoW! |
| 00:00.38 | Thrae | You're all confusing me. Stop that. |
| 00:00.38 | Stan_ | yeah that sounds better Thrae :P |
| 00:00.38 | [Liquidor] | nevcairiel |
| 00:01.09 | chiper | niv: heh, I'm sure Allison will love that |
| 00:01.16 | chiper | get the kid involved |
| 00:01.26 | [Liquidor] | nevcairiel, hooksecurefunc("GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor", function(tooltip, parent) tooltip:SetOwner(parent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") tooltip:ClearAllPoints() end ) |
| 00:01.42 | [Liquidor] | No tooltip addon needed then <3 unless you want ToT etc |
| 00:02.15 | Thrae | The version on my SVN is like 50 lines of code, it just does formatting and anchoring |
| 00:02.59 | Thrae | There's no reason to use hooksecurefunc as well -- GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor is not a secure function |
| 00:03.11 | [Liquidor] | well im no expert :) |
| 00:03.52 | CIA-8 | 03pericles * r58687 10InventoryOnPar/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:03.52 | CIA-8 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 00:03.52 | CIA-8 | - |
| 00:03.52 | CIA-8 | v9.00 - Added option to ignore resilience |
| 00:03.52 | CIA-8 | to use : |
| 00:03.53 | CIA-8 | /iop pvp status - shows whether ignoring resilience or not |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-8 | /iop pvp on - include resilience in calculation |
| 00:04.22 | chiper | heh, I think niv forgets that I know his wife |
| 00:04.33 | chiper | he always goes silent when I mention her |
| 00:04.48 | Kivin | X_X |
| 00:04.58 | kollektiv` | is there a list somewhere |
| 00:05.05 | kollektiv` | nvm |
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| 00:05.26 | Ellipsis | yes. somewhere, someone has written a list of something. |
| 00:07.35 | [Liquidor] | Ellipsis, where? |
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| 00:08.28 | chiper | does this list rank all of us? perhaps by cuteness? |
| 00:08.44 | [Liquidor] | let's make a contest out of it then |
| 00:08.48 | [Liquidor] | winner gets a cookie |
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| 00:09.31 | [Liquidor] | Make a list of 3 things you don't want to hear from a Taxi Driver in NY |
| 00:10.06 | chiper | "I turn here, right?" "I hope this isn't a one-way street." "Shit, was that a copy?" |
| 00:10.09 | chiper | *cop |
| 00:10.52 | chiper | and for bonus points "Don't mind that ticking sound" |
| 00:11.31 | [Liquidor] | "I'm lost", "Don't worry, it's a shortcut!", "Want to buy one of my beers?" |
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| 00:12.07 | chiper | hah, you win |
| 00:12.25 | chiper | altho your first one lacks umph |
| 00:12.32 | Ellipsis | "*squinting* does that look like a stop sign to you?" |
| 00:12.43 | chiper | "Oh man, I am so fucking high." |
| 00:12.55 | [Liquidor] | I don't know the word, squint :( |
| 00:12.57 | Keias | "...you look just like the guy my wife was sleeping with" |
| 00:13.21 | [Liquidor] | Keias, "Want one of my babies?" |
| 00:13.25 | Wobwork | [Liquidor]: Where you scrunch your eyes up in order to try and see better |
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| 00:13.57 | Olison | Shadowed: could you think of a way to disable the ingame location announcements? those big yellow letters in the middle of the screen, e.g. "Ironforge" etc? |
| 00:14.10 | Arrowmaster | hide the frame |
| 00:14.15 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 00:14.16 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, no |
| 00:14.16 | Olison | how? |
| 00:14.18 | Olison | :< |
| 00:14.19 | chiper | "Hope you don't mind if I make a detour, need to unload something in the trunk." |
| 00:14.20 | [Liquidor] | that's too much trouble Arrowmaster |
| 00:14.23 | Keias | squinting is best described as |
| 00:14.24 | Keias | Renée Zellweger |
| 00:14.30 | [Liquidor] | simply... ask Shadowed to do it for you |
| 00:14.31 | [Liquidor] | easier |
| 00:14.32 | Wobwork | Clint Eastwood |
| 00:14.34 | [Liquidor] | much more effi. |
| 00:14.48 | Olison | well i dont know how to hide the frame [Liquidor] |
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| 00:15.04 | [Liquidor] | That's why you should ask Shadowed to do it for you :-) |
| 00:15.09 | Shadowed | Or I'll just ignore you |
| 00:15.12 | Shadowed | and let someone else answer |
| 00:15.18 | Keias | lol |
| 00:15.24 | Gagorian | /script frame:Hide() |
| 00:15.25 | Gagorian | woah |
| 00:15.39 | Gagorian | only remains to find out which frame it is! |
| 00:15.48 | Olison | yes yes |
| 00:15.58 | Kivin | My shattered halls tank is wearing a full set of lv.60 Tier 1/2 gear. SHould I be afraid? |
| 00:16.04 | Shadowed | yes |
| 00:16.05 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58688 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): WoWEquip: - Changed addwidth default, and bump version to 0.9 |
| 00:16.07 | [Liquidor] | spam "/print GetMouseFocus():GetName()" while zoning in and out lol |
| 00:16.12 | chiper | shadowed: you should be honored, he picked you out of all of us to answer your question. clearly he think you're the best |
| 00:16.20 | chiper | either that, or he's stalking you |
| 00:16.30 | Shadowed | I'm also the least likely to answer unless it's related to something I focus on specifically! |
| 00:16.51 | chiper | stalker then |
| 00:17.08 | Neebler | shadowed made the bestest arena addon ever, aside from proximo.. arenaignore! |
| 00:17.23 | Neebler | which is thankfully still slightly underground |
| 00:17.27 | Shadowed | not really |
| 00:17.41 | Shadowed | theres a popular one with like 20k downloads that came out after AI |
| 00:17.49 | [Liquidor] | Olison, spam /print GetMouseFocus():Hide() while pointing the mouse at your minimap. |
| 00:17.58 | Shadowed | I'm sure I could get SSAF and AI to be more popular if I put it on WAU :p |
| 00:18.09 | Shadowed | lesse |
| 00:18.12 | Keias | SSAF is awesome |
| 00:18.19 | Neebler | yousa gonna gets it nerfeded! |
| 00:18.26 | Shadowed | but it's not on WAU, so it doesn't exist |
| 00:18.29 | Shadowed | thats how it works |
| 00:18.34 | Neebler | word |
| 00:18.36 | kollektiv` | nvm |
| 00:19.20 | Olison | [Liquidor]: minimaps gone, text still there :( |
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| 00:19.50 | [Liquidor] | Wish I could direct you to #care but :(( You guys at Freenode don't have one. |
| 00:20.02 | chiper | olison: you're talking about the zone entry text,r ight? |
| 00:20.10 | [Liquidor] | yes chiper |
| 00:20.16 | Olison | right, the one in the middle of the screen |
| 00:20.23 | chiper | [Liquidor]: why did you tell him to point at the minimap? |
| 00:20.38 | Olison | yeah, why -.- |
| 00:20.52 | Ellipsis | that frame doesn't get mouse enabled anyway |
| 00:20.57 | Ellipsis | so you can't get its name that way |
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| 00:21.21 | [Liquidor] | chiper, figured he needed his bottombars ;) |
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| 00:21.31 | Olison | is there a way to list all active frames? |
| 00:21.43 | chiper | heh, you dont want it to do that olison |
| 00:21.45 | [Liquidor] | Yes Olison, but you don't want to do that |
| 00:21.50 | Olison | ok :/ |
| 00:21.53 | chiper | the results would not be human parsable |
| 00:21.54 | [Liquidor] | sec then |
| 00:21.54 | Kivin | Everything is considered a frame |
| 00:22.02 | Olison | uhm |
| 00:22.21 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r58689 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: - koKR Update |
| 00:22.44 | chiper | olison: if you get the editing UI off the wow website, you can navigate through the frames and find the one you want |
| 00:22.55 | chiper | from there you should be able to write a script to hide it |
| 00:23.10 | chiper | fluidframes might be able to do it too |
| 00:23.10 | Olison | aah ok, will start there |
| 00:23.15 | Ellipsis | ~framexml |
| 00:23.16 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 00:23.16 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 00:23.21 | [Liquidor] | Olison, to execute something use /script... |
| 00:23.24 | Olison | thanks for the hit :) |
| 00:23.38 | Olison | hint! |
| 00:23.48 | [Liquidor] | the function to hide something is :Hide() where : refers to the frame it should be hiding |
| 00:24.11 | chiper | I love that little editor addon, shame it doesnt do more |
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| 00:24.14 | [Liquidor] | so all you need to do is head over to wowwiki.com and search for the zone text frame name w/e it is and hide it |
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| 00:24.41 | [Liquidor] | chiper, took me 10min to find out how to hide EditingUI :> |
| 00:24.48 | [Liquidor] | Didn't see the button topleft |
| 00:25.09 | chiper | yeah, me too |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58690 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Remove "0" entries so that they do not show up in the report when not comparing against other profiles. |
| 00:25.21 | chiper | bad place for it, especially since titan/fubar dont move it |
| 00:25.38 | chiper | I ended up writing a macro to show/hide it |
| 00:25.40 | [Liquidor] | ye wonder why it isn't inside the actual frame |
| 00:25.57 | [Liquidor] | well it's listed as well I believe |
| 00:29.12 | [Liquidor] | Olison, found it yet or lost? |
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| 00:31.42 | m4rku5 | Xinhuan, lol @ that guy on the forums: Hey - where do you think you are with those crazy metric units - the EU boards? |
| 00:32.16 | [Liquidor] | Olison, http://wdnaddons.com/0337799/FrameXML/ZoneText.xml |
| 00:32.21 | Estil | so I got my little bro a nintendo DS lite |
| 00:32.37 | Estil | I've owned mine for less than a year, and the serial code of the product has ridiculous difference :( |
| 00:32.37 | m4rku5 | good night @ all |
| 00:32.41 | Olison | yep [Liquidor], just found it :) |
| 00:32.52 | Estil | apparently, since the time I bought DS lite |
| 00:33.12 | Estil | over 3 million machines were sold |
| 00:33.14 | Estil | or something |
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| 00:33.45 | Zhinjio | That assumes the use completely sequential numbering |
| 00:33.55 | Zhinjio | but still... I suspect they sold a freaking boatload of them |
| 00:33.57 | [Liquidor] | and that they sell them in the same order as they are produced |
| 00:34.10 | Estil | well |
| 00:34.15 | Estil | when a DS shipment comes in |
| 00:34.19 | Estil | they are usually sold out within a week |
| 00:34.28 | Estil | or two |
| 00:34.47 | [Liquidor] | imagine this, 10.000 shops, #1 has 1-300 while shop #10.000 got 2.999.699 - 3.000.000 |
| 00:35.07 | [Liquidor] | if you bought yours at shop #1 and he at #10.000 doesn't mean all 3... are sold :) |
| 00:35.59 | [Liquidor] | Anyway if your borther doesn't like it cause of the high serial code just ship it to my address.... |
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| 00:36.16 | Estil | bought it from Newegg actually |
| 00:36.20 | Estil | because all the local shops here were out of DS |
| 00:36.30 | Estil | and Newegg miraculously managed to have some left over |
| 00:37.12 | chiper | yeah, the DS is selling almost as fast as the wii |
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| 00:37.36 | chiper | as gizmodo says, it prints money |
| 00:38.44 | Estil | my bro took time trying to find and all the shops answered "we aren't getting new shipment till March or something" |
| 00:39.13 | Estil | Wii is also sold out almost instantenously |
| 00:39.24 | Estil | so I look around and I see plenty of Ps3/xbox 360 boxes around, lol :( |
| 00:40.55 | Estil | lmao: "To increase Rogue viability in arenas - Arena doors now requires to be lockpicked to open" |
| 00:41.26 | chiper | hah |
| 00:41.52 | chiper | yeah, only way you can get a wii is in a bundle |
| 00:42.00 | chiper | so if you're willing to pay $600, you can have one |
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| 00:42.14 | Estil | I remember how people were buying up all the PS3 ahead of time to sell it on ebay |
| 00:42.19 | Estil | they should've done that with Wii instead |
| 00:42.26 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r58691 10MorgDKP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:42.26 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:42.26 | CIA-8 | - Fix old DKP1 refernces I missed |
| 00:42.26 | CIA-8 | - Fix for special chars (maybe - quit using those things lol) |
| 00:42.44 | chiper | well when the wii first released, they had more than enough quantity to meet demand |
| 00:42.50 | chiper | but it's gotten more popular since |
| 00:43.46 | Estil | I suppose so |
| 00:43.51 | chiper | makes me wish I had actually bought one back then. I could have picked one up easilly at cost-co |
| 00:44.05 | chiper | but I didnt think it was interesting |
| 00:44.20 | Estil | alas! |
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| 00:52.18 | kebinusan | anyone ever try to compile wow model viewer for linux |
| 00:53.05 | NeoTron | chiper: are you kidding? |
| 00:53.10 | NeoTron | I couldn't get a wii for months |
| 00:53.33 | NeoTron | and only then managed to get it off ebay for slightly over retail... still not easy to get one |
| 00:53.58 | NeoTron | and a lot of people WERE buying the Wii and selling it on ebay |
| 00:54.28 | Gnarfoz | sounds profitable |
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| 00:57.12 | NeoTron | sure it was |
| 00:57.18 | NeoTron | not PS3 profitable but still |
| 00:57.34 | Shirik | my parents bought a Wii off ebay |
| 00:57.50 | Shirik | If you only sell it maybe $100 more than the original price, people will buy it |
| 00:58.00 | Shirik | Do it enough and that's a lot of money |
| 00:58.03 | NeoTron | yeah |
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| 00:58.40 | NeoTron | I don't know if it's an isolated incidence but my local gamestop had only a single Wii controller in stock |
| 00:58.50 | NeoTron | seems odd that they wouldn't have enough this long after release |
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| 01:00.01 | chiper | neo: no, not kidding. first week it came out there was a whole pallet of them at the local costco |
| 01:00.42 | chiper | the walmart and target were both out right away, tho |
| 01:01.16 | NeoTron | lucky then |
| 01:01.24 | NeoTron | I guess it varies but I tried to get one from costco online |
| 01:01.39 | NeoTron | and it was out of stock in pretty much no time at all |
| 01:01.40 | chiper | I guess people dont think to check costco for game systems |
| 01:02.10 | chiper | well online has their own inventory seperate from the stores |
| 01:02.12 | Estil | or newegg as indicated by the fact newegg actually had DS lite stocks left |
| 01:03.50 | chiper | I admit I wouldnt think of newegg first; but I tend to think of them as mainly a computer parts store |
| 01:04.39 | Estil | and many people interested in ds / wii probably don't know what newegg is if you asked them |
| 01:05.45 | xyu | is wowwebstats still b0rked? |
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| 01:11.20 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58693 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: updated function name to match what it does now |
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| 01:15.22 | kenlyric | this is crazy. 300kbps down, 768 kbps up. |
| 01:15.28 | kenlyric | I think this laptop might broked. |
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| 01:22.05 | mort | anyone else having problems with the new grid version? i can't use the left mouse button in combination with clique anymore. i can set it to what i want, left clicking someone in grid always selects them :( |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r58694 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-8 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-8 | - koKR typo fix |
| 01:25.28 | mort | if i restart wow, the in clique assigend spells is cast one time, after that it's back to selecting the unit |
| 01:27.25 | kagaro | pastamancer: ping |
| 01:27.58 | mort | reverted back to 57.... works fine again |
| 01:36.05 | kebinusan | what happened to Jerry's grid branch? |
| 01:36.15 | Ellipsis | your mom ate it. |
| 01:36.27 | Kivin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.38 | kebinusan | she does like eat svn branches I admit |
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| 01:39.14 | Silowyi | is there any way or mod to level out your z-axis when flying? |
| 01:39.22 | Fin | no |
| 01:39.26 | Silowyi | figured |
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| 01:39.31 | Ellipsis | /console pitchLimit 0 |
| 01:39.35 | Fin | the function to change the pitch is protected |
| 01:39.36 | Ellipsis | I believe that's teh cvar |
| 01:39.44 | Silowyi | heh, not a bad idea |
| 01:39.45 | Fin | that *might* have changed, but not according to WoWWiki |
| 01:39.55 | alcaras | you can edit the wtf |
| 01:39.58 | alcaras | or could back in 2.0 |
| 01:40.06 | kenlyric | well, you used to be able to change it, but they did fix that. |
| 01:40.14 | kenlyric | you can no longer fly upside down. |
| 01:40.21 | Fin | you can fly upside down again |
| 01:40.28 | Fin | and other people can see you |
| 01:40.33 | Fin | I tested that not two days ago |
| 01:40.37 | kenlyric | oh, and it came back in 2.2 |
| 01:40.40 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 01:40.44 | Fin | /console pitchlimit <n> |
| 01:40.47 | kenlyric | ~fail kenlyric |
| 01:40.48 | purl | kenlyric: Fail. |
| 01:40.59 | Ellipsis | you could always do it |
| 01:41.01 | Fin | it's a different set of cvars though |
| 01:41.02 | kenlyric | 90 is default when you want to change it back |
| 01:41.12 | kenlyric | no ellipsis, they removed it. |
| 01:41.18 | Fin | you can't actually use the function that sets the pitch in a script, though |
| 01:41.21 | Ellipsis | you could always do it *on your screen* I should say |
| 01:41.25 | Ellipsis | without using any cvars that is |
| 01:42.10 | Fin | "PROTECTED PitchDownStart() - Begins pitching the camera Downward." etc. |
| 01:42.16 | kenlyric | horizontal level keybinding, imo. |
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| 01:42.28 | Estil | :o |
| 01:42.28 | Fin | how would that work? |
| 01:42.55 | Fin | I would love a key binding to set myself to perfectly horizontal |
| 01:43.06 | Fin | but I don't see how you can tell the game to do that |
| 01:43.16 | kenlyric | well, set your pitch to 0. |
| 01:43.35 | Fin | how? |
| 01:43.36 | Ellipsis | it can be done with a macro |
| 01:43.45 | kenlyric | Fin: um, by setting it to 0? |
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| 01:43.54 | Fin | what, /console pitch 0? |
| 01:43.57 | kenlyric | I mean that blizzard should ask this keybinding |
| 01:44.01 | kenlyric | *add |
| 01:44.43 | Fin | Ellipsis: how can it be done in a macro, please? |
| 01:44.55 | Fin | kenlyric: OK, fair enough. I agree! :) |
| 01:45.04 | kenlyric | protected just means it won't work in combat, so couldn't you just macro that? |
| 01:45.26 | Fin | "PROTECTED - This function can only be called by Blizzard signed addons (the AddOns/Blizzard_.../ ones). See the Protected Functions category." |
| 01:45.31 | kenlyric | ah. |
| 01:45.47 | kenlyric | so a macro should... |
| 01:46.11 | Fin | I looked into all this quite recently and came to this conclusion... :( |
| 01:46.49 | Fin | I asked here about a function to set the pitch a couple of times, I was hoping someone else might know more |
| 01:47.01 | Fin | I've been meaning to, I keep forgetting |
| 01:47.05 | Fin | and I'm not in-game atm |
| 01:47.25 | Fin | reason I thought maybe it works again, is because they re-enabled setting of the pitchlimit |
| 01:47.37 | Fin | I'm not too hopeful though |
| 01:48.50 | kenlyric | I would think if you set it to 0, that will make you only able to fly perfectly horizontal. |
| 01:49.09 | Fin | sure... but... I don't think there's any way to set it to 0? |
| 01:49.43 | Fin | erm, are we missing each other here? |
| 01:50.51 | Fin | PROTECTED CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart() - Begin "Left click" in the 3D world. (1.10 - Protected) |
| 01:50.55 | Fin | PROTECTED CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop([stickyFlag]) - End "Left click" in the 3D world. (1.10 - Protected) |
| 01:50.59 | Fin | those are the two functions I need |
| 01:51.41 | Fin | Slouken wrote an addon that let you move things around with eh mouse once, MovePad, but apparently he cheated and signed it so it could use the functions |
| 01:51.47 | Fin | it's not fair |
| 01:53.55 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7355-IllegalAddon.html |
| 01:53.57 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 01:54.02 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:54.18 | Xinhuan | i like this addon (even though it is useless :D) |
| 01:56.58 | kenlyric | SendMeCopper would be a good addon. |
| 01:58.05 | Xinhuan | do it |
| 01:58.40 | Xinhuan | make an library that everyone will use, then secretly put in code that makes everyone mail you 2 silver everytime they visit the mailbox |
| 01:58.50 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r58695 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 01:58.50 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 01:58.51 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 01:59.52 | Fin | [02:59:01] <Xinhuan> make an library that everyone will use |
| 02:00.00 | kenlyric | well,you know CTMail sends cide 1copper every 17th time you visit the mailbox. |
| 02:00.04 | Fin | tell you what, you do that bit, I'll do the other bit |
| 02:00.10 | kenlyric | it's this rumor I heard or just made up. |
| 02:00.18 | pastamancer | kagaro: sup? |
| 02:00.29 | kagaro | can i pm you real quick |
| 02:00.34 | Fin | I heard or made up the same rumour, kenlyric! |
| 02:00.36 | Fin | it must be true |
| 02:00.49 | pastamancer | if it's addon-related, ask in channel |
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| 02:01.11 | Xinhuan | he wants you to convert Grid to Ace3 ;d |
| 02:01.15 | kagaro | was just wondering if your eventually gona move grid to ace3 |
| 02:01.18 | kenlyric | it's sexchat |
| 02:01.32 | Xinhuan | see? i'm psychic |
| 02:01.35 | pastamancer | jerry is working on it |
| 02:01.38 | kagaro | nice |
| 02:01.43 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: you cheated. That's always the question. |
| 02:02.02 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 02:02.09 | pastamancer | heh |
| 02:02.23 | Fin | that ruled, 10 points Xinhuan |
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| 02:03.39 | Xinhuan | lets see if i can merge 1000 lines of code changes from branches to trunk without anything breaking. :) |
| 02:04.13 | kergoth | good luck |
| 02:05.14 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58696 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.toc: WoWEquip: - Update TOC to v0.9 |
| 02:06.05 | Fin | yeah |
| 02:06.26 | xyu | i have an archimonde question, what happens if archi enrages after he hits 10% |
| 02:06.29 | xyu | is this possible? |
| 02:06.43 | alcaras | what's the optimal stack size to post arcane dust in? i see people post in 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20.... |
| 02:06.43 | Xinhuan | it doesn't matter |
| 02:06.47 | Xinhuan | he still attacks the world tree |
| 02:06.53 | xyu | ok |
| 02:06.58 | Xinhuan | and doesn't attack any player, and all players are still immune for 1 minute |
| 02:07.15 | Fin | figure it out for yourself, alcaras, there's no deposit |
| 02:07.24 | Xinhuan | the only people that aren't immune are those that rezzed after the immune buff was casted |
| 02:07.34 | ckknight | Xinhuan: this is why I like git :-P |
| 02:07.48 | Xinhuan | meh i have to reread how to merge stuff in the help file |
| 02:07.50 | Xinhuan | this sucks |
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| 02:13.18 | CIA-8 | 03pernicius * r58697 10LibMMButton-1.0/ (. LibMMButton-1.0.lua LibMMButton-1.0.toc): |
| 02:13.18 | CIA-8 | LibMMButton-1.0 |
| 02:13.18 | CIA-8 | - some minimal changes/bugfixes |
| 02:13.36 | Xinhuan | wow, the merge didn't generate any conflicted files |
| 02:13.39 | Xinhuan | surprise! |
| 02:13.55 | Xinhuan | better reloadui to see if it works |
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| 02:14.58 | kenlyric | I swear to god if you make skynet active I'm going to be very angry with you. |
| 02:15.15 | kenlyric | that's Google's job. |
| 02:15.18 | alcaras | THREAT IDENTIFIED: (kenlyric) INITIALIZING SKYNET TERMINATION PROTOCOL FOR SELECTED TARGET |
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| 02:15.46 | Xinhuan | [1/18 10:06:37] <alcaras> what's the optimal stack size to post arcane dust in? i see people post in 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20.... |
| 02:15.48 | Xinhuan | Answer: 1 |
| 02:15.54 | alcaras | isnt' 1 annoying as hell? |
| 02:16.07 | Xinhuan | because people can't be fucked to "next page" 5 times just to see the stacks of 5s and 20s |
| 02:16.12 | alcaras | lol |
| 02:16.13 | kenlyric | that's why god invented auctioneer |
| 02:16.20 | alcaras | not annoying as hell to post |
| 02:16.22 | alcaras | annoying as hell to buy |
| 02:16.30 | Xinhuan | nah, i would buy the stacks of 1s |
| 02:16.49 | kenlyric | I only see by cost per item |
| 02:16.50 | Xinhuan | because its more annoying to "next page" to the stack os 5s and 10s and 20s just to see they are mroe expensive |
| 02:16.51 | chiper | neheh, easier to buy a full stack and sell what you dont use |
| 02:16.58 | Xinhuan | and most ppl only need "exactly 6" anyway |
| 02:16.58 | kenlyric | so I never even know how many are in a stack. |
| 02:17.01 | Fin | no way |
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| 02:17.23 | Mjrn | I sell in stacks of 8 and 20, to appeal to the most popular high end enchants and bulk buyers |
| 02:17.28 | Fin | I never said it wasn't annoying |
| 02:17.34 | Fin | I just pointed out something else annoying |
| 02:17.36 | Fin | eesh |
| 02:17.38 | Xinhuan | i find that selling in stack of 1s gives the fastest sales |
| 02:17.40 | cchome | whats the mod that enlarges ur Bartender keys when the CD is back down. |
| 02:17.42 | Xinhuan | from my experience |
| 02:18.09 | Fin | LUMINESCENT GLOBES |
| 02:18.31 | Fin | someone explain that to me thoroughly please - is it because they stack in 20s? is it some sort of way of transferring money for some reason? |
| 02:18.36 | Fin | WHAT'S GOING ON |
| 02:18.57 | Mjrn | full stack is 20, yes |
| 02:19.00 | Fin | search for luminescent globes! why are they so expensive? why are they even for sale? |
| 02:19.08 | cchome | whats the mod that enlarges ur Bartender keys when the CD is back down. |
| 02:19.32 | Fin | they are regularly and reliably for sale for 7g+ on my server, and elsewhere too from the comments on Thottbot etc. |
| 02:19.47 | Fin | OmniCC cchome, probably, and it's nothing to do with BT3 |
| 02:19.47 | Mjrn | aren't those a special item from the moon festival coming up? |
| 02:19.58 | Fin | nup |
| 02:20.13 | Mjrn | which am I thinking of? |
| 02:20.14 | cchome | i got omniCC..but it doesn't enlarge the button when CD is up |
| 02:20.21 | cchome | it shrinks it back to normal |
| 02:20.27 | cchome | after a sec |
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| 02:20.58 | Fin | are you the author of CCUI, btw? |
| 02:21.26 | cchome | nope |
| 02:21.59 | Fin | you may live |
| 02:22.09 | Mjrn | lol |
| 02:22.57 | NivFreak | cchome: I'd love to know if you figure it out |
| 02:23.15 | Estil | lol |
| 02:25.37 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58698 10WoWEquip/ (6 files): WoWEquip: - Merge branches r57786-r58696 which implement talent calculations. This updates WoWEquip to v0.9 |
| 02:32.57 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58699 10WoWEquip/localization.zhCN.lua: WoWEquip: - Update zhCN locale |
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| 02:42.57 | cchome | whats the mod that enlarges ur Bartender keys when the CD is back down. |
| 02:43.37 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58700 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): WoWEquip: - Localize another string, add missing localization strings in deDE, corrected zhCN locale metatable to point to the English locale table. |
| 02:43.39 | Xinhuan | OmniCC |
| 02:43.46 | NivFreak | CIA-8: let me know if you find out :) |
| 02:43.47 | NivFreak | er |
| 02:43.51 | NivFreak | cchrome even |
| 02:45.21 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I think he said it didn't |
| 02:45.43 | Xinhuan | then i don't think i know any addon does that |
| 02:45.51 | Xinhuan | omnicc's supposed to work on *any* button |
| 02:46.01 | Xinhuan | in *any* addon |
| 02:46.14 | Xinhuan | that uses <Cooldown> frames |
| 02:46.37 | NivFreak | erm |
| 02:46.45 | NivFreak | it just adds a countdown timer though, right? |
| 02:46.52 | CIA-8 | 03pernicius * r58701 10DMWho/ (. DMWho.lua DMWho.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 02:46.52 | CIA-8 | DMWho: initial commit |
| 02:46.52 | CIA-8 | - Lists who is using which damage meter |
| 02:47.00 | NivFreak | I know what he's talking about, I've seen it in some arena videos |
| 02:47.08 | NivFreak | their actionbuttons POP when the CD is up |
| 02:47.09 | NivFreak | enlarge by maybe 50% for a pulse |
| 02:47.44 | Xinhuan | hah DMWho |
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| 02:48.06 | Xinhuan | (p.s. why does it need any libs?) |
| 02:48.17 | Pernicius | Ace2 |
| 02:48.26 | Xinhuan | why does it need Ace2? |
| 02:48.32 | Pernicius | its cool :) |
| 02:48.48 | Xinhuan | should be pretty simple enough to write without requiring a framework |
| 02:50.20 | CIA-8 | 03pernicius * r58702 10DMWho/: |
| 02:50.20 | CIA-8 | DMWho |
| 02:50.20 | CIA-8 | - updated externals (Ace2) |
| 02:50.44 | Pernicius | if i could use Ace3 it would be very small |
| 02:53.49 | cchome | NivFreak: yah |
| 02:53.53 | cchome | thats wht one im looking for |
| 02:54.08 | cchome | actionbuttons POP up when the CD is up...enlarge by maybe 50% for a pulse.. |
| 02:54.19 | exor674 | Xinhuan: life points seems to be incorrect for warlocks |
| 02:54.27 | exor674 | for wowrquip |
| 02:54.31 | exor674 | er -- wowequip |
| 02:54.56 | Xinhuan | can you elaborate? |
| 02:55.07 | Xinhuan | on how you feel it is incorrect |
| 02:55.20 | Xinhuan | or why you think it is incorrect |
| 02:55.44 | exor674 | first off -- targetting myself and doing copy target (to make sure its info is right) |
| 02:55.54 | exor674 | it says I have 411 stam when I actually have 558 |
| 02:56.01 | exor674 | no buffs |
| 02:56.04 | Xinhuan | did you read the "NOTES:" at the bottom? |
| 02:56.15 | exor674 | ah duh |
| 02:56.26 | Xinhuan | i have no way of telling what everyone's base stats are |
| 02:56.42 | xyu | Does anyone know where Vista's recycling bin's path is? |
| 02:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ~/.trash |
| 02:57.06 | Xinhuan | the most i can do is give equipment-based calculations |
| 02:57.07 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, wait, thats sane os's |
| 02:57.17 | xyu | lol |
| 02:57.21 | Xinhuan | as every race/class combo (there's some 45 possible combinations) have different base-stats |
| 02:57.38 | Xinhuan | and these base stats are different at every level too |
| 02:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: speaking of that, i take it you havn't gotten much closer to getting at least l70 base stats for everyone? :\ |
| 02:57.58 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 02:58.02 | Xinhuan | only 12 ppl posted on my thread |
| 02:58.20 | Xinhuan | i.e i have at best 12 race/class combos of base stats - of which already have racials factored in |
| 02:58.29 | Xinhuan | so they require unfactoring |
| 02:58.45 | Xinhuan | blizzard is also known to change base stats from time to time |
| 02:58.49 | Xinhuan | in patches |
| 02:59.06 | Xinhuan | usually just a tweak here and there where you won't notice anything, like 1 stam more, 1 int less, etc |
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| 03:00.10 | abyx | what part of xperl handles the "without buffs: . . ." frame when you mouseover a party members buffs |
| 03:00.17 | Estil | you know what's weird |
| 03:00.25 | Estil | Warlock class is known for being uber sta uber HP |
| 03:00.31 | Estil | but their base stats say otherwise |
| 03:00.46 | abyx | their gear has the most stamina of any other class does it not? |
| 03:01.01 | exor674 | Xinhuan: still wrong then I think... 5/5 demonic embrace -- thing reports 411 stam -- my green stat on tooltip is 472, and my white is 86 |
| 03:01.02 | Estil | that makes you think that Blizzard's intention with Warlock is to have most HP and all , right? |
| 03:01.05 | abyx | not to mention they get a 15% increase in stam |
| 03:01.12 | Estil | but their base stat's stamina is low; they have more int and spirit |
| 03:01.14 | exor674 | and 15% of 86 doesn't account for the extra green bonus |
| 03:01.22 | Xinhuan | exor674, that is because your talent "increases your base white stats" too |
| 03:01.29 | Xinhuan | and they remain white |
| 03:02.11 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58703 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Remove a large bunch of commented code, updated comments/todo, change a message from being printed in chat to being shown in the summary window. |
| 03:02.19 | Xinhuan | in any case, its possible that some calculation is wrong somewhere |
| 03:02.27 | exor674 | and one more possible bug |
| 03:02.40 | Xinhuan | i can't really help unless you find out what is not being calculated |
| 03:02.50 | exor674 | I selet myself, 'copy target' -- and WoWequip is set to "Currently equipped gear" |
| 03:02.59 | Xinhuan | the "411 stamina" reported in wow doesn't take into account talents |
| 03:03.05 | Xinhuan | the "411 stamina" reported in wowequip* doesn't take into account talents |
| 03:03.10 | exor674 | and at the bottom, Life Points 4876 (+616) |
| 03:03.12 | Xinhuan | its only the derived stats below |
| 03:03.14 | Xinhuan | that does |
| 03:03.31 | exor674 | but what's with that +616 if I'm comparing to myself |
| 03:03.31 | Xinhuan | 411 means 411 from gear alone, no other modifiers |
| 03:03.45 | Paene | http://www.n4lguild.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=49 |
| 03:03.54 | Paene | Charter tech support at it's best |
| 03:03.56 | Xinhuan | hmm, it should be identical |
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| 03:04.33 | exor674 | aha |
| 03:04.54 | Xinhuan | wait, you targetted yourself, "copy target" and yuo're seeing differences yes? |
| 03:04.56 | exor674 | in Wowequip, if I set Demonic Embrace to 0/5, the +616 goes away |
| 03:04.59 | exor674 | yeah |
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| 03:05.54 | Xinhuan | ok target yourself anc click "copy target" again |
| 03:05.57 | Xinhuan | and* |
| 03:06.05 | Xinhuan | in the talents menu, what do you see demonic embrace as? |
| 03:06.07 | Xinhuan | 5/5? |
| 03:06.10 | exor674 | yeah |
| 03:06.15 | Xinhuan | what about the text just below that button |
| 03:06.19 | exor674 | 5/5 |
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| 03:06.32 | Xinhuan | not sure if i can reproduce it |
| 03:06.52 | Xinhuan | the code is correct as far as i can tel |
| 03:06.54 | Xinhuan | tell |
| 03:07.27 | Xinhuan | OH |
| 03:07.31 | Xinhuan | ok i found the error |
| 03:07.36 | Xinhuan | i'll upload the fix in a min |
| 03:07.37 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:07.59 | Xinhuan | i have a --TODO: line commented out |
| 03:08.10 | Xinhuan | where i'm supposed to insert the correct reference to your talents table hehe |
| 03:08.17 | kebinusan | hm is there a setting to make cowtip not show mouseover tooltips when in combat |
| 03:08.40 | cchome | actionbuttons POP up when the CD is up...enlarge by maybe 50% for a pulse.. |
| 03:08.52 | cchome | anyone know what mod is actionbuttons POP up when the CD is up...enlarge by maybe 50% for a pulse.. |
| 03:09.21 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58704 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Fix stat-modifying talents (sta, int, etc) from not calculating at all when comparing against "currently equipped gear" |
| 03:09.21 | Kivin | Is that even possible? |
| 03:09.49 | Xinhuan | cchome, that mod is OmniCC :) |
| 03:10.48 | Paene | is OmniCC still developed? |
| 03:10.59 | cchome | o yah it is |
| 03:11.01 | Xinhuan | it works, and requires no updates |
| 03:11.02 | cchome | pulse! |
| 03:11.07 | cchome | enable pusling! lol |
| 03:12.50 | abyx | what part of xperl handles the "without buffs: . . ." frame when you mouseover a party members buffs |
| 03:12.53 | kenlyric | man. |
| 03:13.02 | kenlyric | three hours of us telling him it was omniCC |
| 03:13.04 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.09 | abyx | anyone know? i can't find out which it is |
| 03:18.53 | kagaro | sacredbuff rocks btw |
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| 03:20.11 | exor674 | Xinhuan: same error seems to be there |
| 03:20.27 | kergoth | sacredbuff? |
| 03:20.51 | Xinhuan | are you sure you have r58784? |
| 03:21.21 | kagaro | it a little mod showing rez and fw |
| 03:21.23 | Xinhuan | changes on wowace svn doesn't go live for up to 20 minutes on the auto-zipped files |
| 03:21.25 | exor674 | is there a way to heck that ingame? |
| 03:21.32 | Xinhuan | since they are generated every 20 minutes |
| 03:21.47 | Xinhuan | not really, how do you update your addons? |
| 03:21.48 | Xinhuan | WAU? |
| 03:22.34 | Xinhuan | you can check your wowequip folder for a Changelog-WoWEquip-rXXXXX.txt file |
| 03:22.47 | Xinhuan | which should indicate what revision you are using |
| 03:23.49 | spathi | abyx, xperl_raidframes |
| 03:24.19 | exor674 | Xinhuan: there we go... got it this time and it seems to not have that issue |
| 03:24.28 | abyx | where exactly is the string "without buffs" ? |
| 03:24.47 | spathi | its in the localization files |
| 03:25.51 | Xinhuan | basically, the addon is telling you that taking the talent Demonic Embrace is giving you an extra 616 hp __due to gear__ alone |
| 03:26.19 | Xinhuan | 616 hp means you have about 411 stamina from gear i think, since 15% of that is around there |
| 03:26.55 | Xinhuan | for the most part, you won't really care about stamina, its more for the +% damage talents |
| 03:27.01 | Xinhuan | like +5% shadow damage |
| 03:27.09 | Xinhuan | how much does that increase +damage gear by? |
| 03:27.17 | Xinhuan | where you know your base stats is +0 anyway |
| 03:30.26 | kagaro | hm wdner if you could calc distance to target as a overlay on your spell buttons |
| 03:33.35 | Xinhuan | you can, but it wouldn't be very practical since bars already SetVertexColor() based on whether you are in range or not |
| 03:40.32 | kergoth | <3 AnnoyingBuffReminder |
| 03:40.49 | kadrahil | how would you guys pronounce Teni? |
| 03:41.14 | kagaro | a little frame would work too need exact range for conflags |
| 03:41.19 | kadrahil | like, Penny, but with a T? |
| 03:41.33 | kagaro | but not really needed .. |
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| 03:45.31 | kergoth | kadrahil: thats how i'd pronounce it, yep |
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| 03:46.56 | kadrahil | kergoth: think that's going to be my new priest's name |
| 03:47.05 | kadrahil | human female :S |
| 03:50.13 | kergoth | nice |
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| 03:54.42 | xyu | sigh, apparently my guild needs an addon when to use tears of the goddesss because they fail so hard at it qq |
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| 03:55.00 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 03:55.14 | Xinhuan | just tell them to use it when they are at the "peak" of the air burst |
| 03:55.24 | Xinhuan | if they are slow on the click, they will prob click it just right |
| 03:55.32 | Xinhuan | or at most take 3-4k fall damage |
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| 03:56.59 | chiper | any recommendations for leveling engineering from 350 to 375? |
| 04:02.01 | Keias | yeah |
| 04:02.07 | Keias | Adamantite Rifles. Lots of them |
| 04:02.21 | chiper | oy, was afraid you'd say that |
| 04:02.47 | chiper | this is gonna be spensive |
| 04:03.49 | Keias | You can make a ton of Khorium scopes instead, if you want to spend even more money! :D |
| 04:05.03 | chiper | tis the primals that'll do me in |
| 04:05.20 | chiper | altho earth is getting pretty cheap on my server |
| 04:05.45 | abyx | is it possible to call a function that's defined in an addon from a /script command? |
| 04:05.53 | Kivin | abyx: absolutely |
| 04:05.58 | Kivin | abyx: As long as it's global |
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| 04:06.50 | abyx | hmm the function i want to call is local.... can i just remove the 'local' and have it as a global function? |
| 04:07.08 | Kivin | abyx: probably, yes |
| 04:10.45 | kergoth | someone should modify topscorefu to show records for pet damage :) |
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| 04:12.50 | abyx | whats the function to send message to party/raid/say/yell chat? SendMessage? |
| 04:13.32 | nymbia | SendChatMessage |
| 04:13.37 | abyx | ah just found it ;) |
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| 04:29.36 | Xinhuan | time to nap |
| 04:30.34 | alcaras | anyway to queue items then mass mail in postal? (akin to bulkmailinbox) |
| 04:31.53 | Xinhuan | no |
| 04:32.29 | Xinhuan | what do you mean by queue anyway? |
| 04:32.51 | alcaras | bulkmailinbox will let you alt-click a bunch of items, then clcik 'send all' |
| 04:32.59 | alcaras | postal insists on sending them one at a time |
| 04:33.05 | Xinhuan | you can turn off that |
| 04:33.20 | Xinhuan | see that dropdown menu next to the X button in the corner? |
| 04:33.32 | Xinhuan | click that menu, and turn off "auto-send on alt-click" |
| 04:33.56 | Xinhuan | so you can alt-click 10 items, then click "send all" |
| 04:34.11 | alcaras | ah i see it |
| 04:34.11 | alcaras | thanks |
| 04:34.12 | Xinhuan | OR you can keep that option on, and just right-click 9 items, then alt-click the 10th one to send it |
| 04:34.21 | Xinhuan | right-click is default UI functionablity now |
| 04:34.39 | Xinhuan | right-click will now move items between mail->bag and bag->mail |
| 04:34.47 | Xinhuan | and also bag->tradewindow and tradewindow->bag |
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| 04:34.57 | Xinhuan | bet you don't read patch notes (2.3.0) |
| 04:35.24 | Xinhuan | so the whole alt-click thing is really just duplicated functionality that right-click now does by default |
| 04:36.02 | alcaras | what opening speed should i use? |
| 04:36.10 | Xinhuan | 1.0 usually |
| 04:36.23 | Xinhuan | you can try faster, but i don't gaurantee you won't disconnect due to opening mail faster |
| 04:36.45 | Xinhuan | as stated in the tooltip |
| 04:37.07 | Xinhuan | i use about 0.8 myself |
| 04:37.19 | alcaras | i'm not getting disconnecting, it just does nothing |
| 04:37.40 | Xinhuan | depends on your latency as well |
| 04:38.19 | Xinhuan | if postal tried to take an item, and then 0.8 seconds later, the server hasn't actually taken the item yet, postal does nothing until that item is actually taken and waits another 0.8 sec |
| 04:38.34 | Xinhuan | basically, its just triggering itself every 0.8 sec |
| 04:38.37 | alcaras | <nod> |
| 04:38.43 | alcaras | my latency is about 50 ms or so |
| 04:38.56 | alcaras | what i just had now was empty messages |
| 04:38.58 | Xinhuan | even so, interactions with mail tends to be way above that |
| 04:39.00 | alcaras | i.e. it took the item |
| 04:39.05 | alcaras | but the message, empty, was left |
| 04:39.07 | Xinhuan | since its dealing with items |
| 04:39.47 | Xinhuan | looting items tend to require a lot more time than usual, its like the server needs to generate 200 logs for every item looted ;d |
| 04:40.02 | alcaras | 200 logs? |
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| 04:40.09 | Xinhuan | who knows what the server does |
| 04:40.26 | alcaras | ah ok |
| 04:40.27 | Xinhuan | when you trade someone in the trade window, and both sides clicks TRADE |
| 04:40.35 | Xinhuan | the trade doesn't go through right away either |
| 04:40.38 | Xinhuan | it takes like half a sec |
| 04:40.40 | alcaras | looting a ritual of refreshment etc. |
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| 04:42.33 | abyx | is there any function that removes escape sequences? |
| 04:43.34 | Xinhuan | no, you have to write one yourself |
| 04:43.40 | alcaras | no easy wayto get rid of the empty messages i guess |
| 04:43.52 | Xinhuan | alcaras, yep, not easy |
| 04:43.58 | alcaras | just have to click each one |
| 04:44.09 | Xinhuan | if its a player-sent one, make sure they don't include written text in the mail |
| 04:44.16 | Xinhuan | some mailing addons like to generate text |
| 04:44.21 | alcaras | not player sent |
| 04:44.22 | alcaras | ah set |
| 04:44.32 | alcaras | it took the items but left the messages |
| 04:44.38 | alcaras | prob b/c i had set it to 0.3 opening speed |
| 04:44.40 | alcaras | which was a bit fast |
| 04:44.42 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't do that |
| 04:44.54 | Xinhuan | all Ah mail self-delete, except AH-pending mails |
| 04:45.06 | Xinhuan | which i manually delete |
| 04:46.37 | alcaras | no way to auto delet pendig? |
| 04:46.48 | Xinhuan | it auto deletes AH-pending mail |
| 04:46.59 | Xinhuan | i mean, postal should auto delete them |
| 04:47.03 | Xinhuan | if they are marked for opening |
| 04:47.12 | alcaras | ah ok |
| 04:47.14 | Xinhuan | all other ah mail self-delete by itself |
| 04:47.23 | alcaras | yeah this might have been a fluke from having it at 0.3 |
| 04:47.36 | alcaras | thanks for your help! |
| 04:47.41 | Xinhuan | if you use Open All, you can see another dropdown menu next to that button |
| 04:47.50 | Xinhuan | which set the options for what to open when you hit open all |
| 04:47.54 | alcaras | yah |
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| 04:48.31 | Xinhuan | mainly, if you use the mailbox has a "bank" of sorts, you sometimes don't really want to open all |
| 04:48.39 | Xinhuan | other than just all the ah sales |
| 04:48.40 | alcaras | i don't |
| 04:48.46 | alcaras | but yah |
| 04:48.48 | alcaras | it worked right now |
| 04:49.14 | Xinhuan | wow, someone wants a pdf reader addon in wow lol |
| 04:49.25 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 04:49.27 | alcaras | thanks again :) |
| 04:49.29 | alcaras | err lol |
| 04:51.05 | haste | Xinhuan: sounds like you have a challenge there! |
| 04:51.07 | kergoth | damn, Dock looks promising |
| 04:51.12 | kergoth | wtb public beta |
| 04:52.02 | Xinhuan | [1/18 12:44:59] <Xinhuan> which i manually delete |
| 04:52.29 | Xinhuan | by that reference of "me deleting it", i mean i wrote postal's code to delete them, not that i delete them manually ingame |
| 04:52.41 | Xinhuan | in case that was confusing! |
| 04:52.52 | Xinhuan | kergoth, turns out i don't use dock all that much |
| 04:53.05 | Xinhuan | if i really want a frame out of the way, i would hide it, not dock it |
| 04:53.20 | kergoth | i expect most things i'd be happy with in Dash |
| 04:53.24 | Xinhuan | because the dock itself takes up a lot of space on screen |
| 04:53.29 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:53.36 | Xinhuan | so it isn't quite as good as everyone thinks |
| 04:53.47 | Xinhuan | for example, consider damage meters |
| 04:53.58 | Xinhuan | the damage meters frame is already usually small |
| 04:54.04 | Xinhuan | docking it wont' make it that much smaller |
| 04:54.20 | Xinhuan | esp since the dock itself is taking up like 10% of your screen |
| 04:54.49 | Xinhuan | its handy for large frames, but not really for small ones |
| 04:55.06 | Xinhuan | and if a frame is large, you can be sure there's a binding or /slash command to show/hide it anyway |
| 04:55.08 | kergoth | what about for chat? i have all my chat in dash right now, with prat notifying me when someone says my name, but itd be nice to have some idea of how much activity is happening in the chat window so i know to show the dash |
| 04:55.32 | Xinhuan | all dock does is reanchor the frame inside dock, and scale it down to fit inside |
| 04:55.53 | Xinhuan | so if someone chats to you, you'll only notice it from the sound file being played |
| 04:56.01 | Xinhuan | or by the flashing chat tab that is also scaled down |
| 04:56.08 | Xinhuan | inside the dock |
| 04:56.21 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:56.41 | Xinhuan | so in a way its a neat concept, quite vista-ish like alt-tabbing |
| 04:56.52 | Xinhuan | but doesn't really quite save screen estate space |
| 04:56.57 | kergoth | maybe i'll just stick with dash then, maybe make a small addon to show an icon representation of lines per second in my chat frames or something |
| 04:57.04 | Xinhuan | since ALL the frames are visible at ALL times |
| 04:57.13 | Xinhuan | just scaled down smaller |
| 04:58.03 | Xinhuan | i dunno how he didn't catch the WorldFrame docking bug though, it was so obvious heh |
| 04:59.59 | kergoth | yeah, it was |
| 05:01.09 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if i should try minichat again, or wim or something |
| 05:02.56 | alcaras | ~ dash |
| 05:02.57 | purl | dash is a shell to help make the V2 operating system easier to use. URL: http://v2dash.hypermart.net/downloads.html |
| 05:03.02 | alcaras | o.O |
| 05:03.09 | alcaras | link for dash the ui mod |
| 05:03.46 | kergoth | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 05:03.52 | alcaras | ty |
| 05:03.59 | alcaras | what is the notepad in that screen? |
| 05:04.16 | kergoth | looks like tinypad |
| 05:05.24 | alcaras | thanks |
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| 05:09.58 | alcaras | anyone recommend a good mod for lfg? |
| 05:10.34 | Neebler | builtin LFG system. or trade channel! |
| 05:11.04 | alcaras | heh |
| 05:11.18 | alcaras | i was hoping somethign that reminds what i'm lfg for if i don't have autoadd on |
| 05:11.48 | xyu | i heard people use call of arms but i've never tried it. |
| 05:13.51 | alcaras | call to arms is way too bloated |
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| 05:17.08 | xyu | maybe "Grouper" but i think that's just an autojoin list thing |
| 05:17.25 | abyx | can wow addons use string.gsub? |
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| 05:24.56 | bigzero | abyx, yes |
| 05:25.15 | abyx | is there anything i need to include to be able to use it? |
| 05:25.28 | bigzero | nope, should just work |
| 05:26.14 | bigzero | does it say attempt to index gsub a nil value? |
| 05:26.42 | bigzero | err, actually that's not what it would be |
| 05:26.50 | abyx | hmm... maybe i'm using it wrong. local foo = "hello, world"; string.gsub(foo,"world","bar"); is correct isn't it? |
| 05:27.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:27.53 | bigzero | lua> local foo = "hello, world"; print(string.gsub(foo,"world","bar")) |
| 05:27.53 | lua_bot | bigzero: hello, bar, 1 |
| 05:28.16 | Arrowmaster | you werent doing anything with the result |
| 05:28.19 | bigzero | should work... you need to assign the return to something though |
| 05:28.40 | bigzero | lua> local foo = "hello, world"; foo = string.gsub(foo,"world","bar"); print(foo) |
| 05:28.40 | lua_bot | bigzero: hello, bar |
| 05:28.46 | bigzero | something like that |
| 05:33.10 | abyx | bah |
| 05:34.11 | abyx | i'm trying to "break" escape sequences in a string using gsub. local foo = "hello \n world"; foo = string.gsub(foo,"\\",""); |
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| 05:34.51 | elusif | cart is great i love it and i have all the vendors trainers and mailboxes installed but it only adds them to my map after i visit them |
| 05:35.12 | elusif | is there a databases i can somehow import so even nps etc i haven't been to show up on the map? |
| 05:35.23 | elusif | i mean if it can be done for ore... |
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| 05:36.12 | abyx | lua> local foo = "hello \n world"; foo = string.gsub(string,"\\",""); print(foo); |
| 05:36.12 | lua_bot | abyx: [string "local foo = "hello \n world"; foo = string...."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got table) |
| 05:36.27 | abyx | lua> local foo = "hello \n world"; foo = string.gsub(foo,"\\",""); print(foo); |
| 05:36.27 | lua_bot | abyx: hello world |
| 05:37.07 | abyx | are escape sequences different in WoW? |
| 05:43.45 | Kivin | abyx: no |
| 05:47.31 | elusif | kivin can you answer my question if you know the answer please |
| 05:47.33 | abyx | is there any way to print a string without parsing its escape sequences? |
| 05:47.50 | Kivin | elusif: I'm not ignoring you |
| 05:48.03 | Kivin | abyx: Define 'parsing it's escape sequences' |
| 05:48.06 | exor674 | abyx: by escape sequences do you mean the |c000000 things? |
| 05:48.48 | abyx | ehm i have a string that has escape sequences in it... and i want to print that string in party chat but i can't do that with the escape sequences in it |
| 05:49.04 | abyx | and i'm not even sure what escape sequences are in the string to begin with >_> |
| 05:49.07 | Kivin | what happens if you send it with escape sequences? |
| 05:49.29 | exor674 | and by "Escape sequences" you mean like item links or color change codes |
| 05:49.36 | Kivin | exor674: \r\n |
| 05:49.50 | abyx | SendChatMessage() has an error saying "invalid escape code in chat message" |
| 05:50.12 | elusif | kivin: nps |
| 05:50.18 | nymbia | color changes or ? |
| 05:51.01 | abyx | I think it is color changes |
| 05:51.13 | Arrowmaster | change all |'s to ||'s |
| 05:51.24 | nymbia | well, that'll show 'em |
| 05:51.45 | nymbia | is that what you want to have sent? |
| 05:51.57 | Kivin | if you want to take colour sequences out, replace |c%x+ with "", or something |
| 05:52.16 | nymbia | yup, gsub it out |
| 05:52.28 | Kivin | might need to gsub |r out too |
| 05:52.31 | nymbia | although careful with that %x+, you might grab some extra characters |
| 05:52.44 | Kivin | true, might be safer to make it more literal |
| 05:52.54 | Kivin | |c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x or something |
| 05:52.59 | nymbia | yup |
| 05:53.07 | Kivin | don't think lua patterns have a {x,y} |
| 05:53.12 | nymbia | or even just |c........ |
| 05:53.14 | Arrowmaster | they dont |
| 05:53.17 | Kivin | . is slow |
| 05:53.47 | Kivin | if it can be accomodated by something other than . easily, use it |
| 05:53.55 | nymbia | even when it's not wild? |
| 05:54.28 | Kivin | i think so |
| 05:54.32 | nymbia | using a lot of .+ will slow you down, but fixed length stuff shouldnt |
| 05:54.44 | Kivin | I dunno |
| 05:54.55 | Kivin | I'd have to test it |
| 05:55.02 | nymbia | yup |
| 05:55.54 | abyx | so the escape code was actually "|r" that was causing problems |
| 05:56.17 | nymbia | yeah |
| 05:56.37 | nymbia | trying to send that over chat will incur the wrath of something |
| 05:57.00 | Kivin | good lil tidbit to know |
| 05:57.29 | chiper | hah, that was fun. dissapointing, but fun |
| 05:57.32 | nymbia | any single '|' will probably cause that error, actually |
| 05:57.46 | chiper | I just pulled out my old precisely calibrated boomstick from back when I was 45 |
| 05:57.47 | chiper | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2100 |
| 05:58.01 | chiper | with my speed macro, i was able to get my firing speed to .58 seconds |
| 05:58.21 | chiper | sadly, it peaked at only 200dps |
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| 06:13.36 | ckknight | does anyone know how to prove if an arbitrary list of numbers with a range of [-π, π) is randomly distributed? |
| 06:14.50 | dre^ | are those like unicode escapes or something? |
| 06:15.06 | dre^ | (and obviously I dont know ;) |
| 06:15.39 | ckknight | [-pi, pi) |
| 06:15.51 | ckknight | but that's arbitrary, really, it could be within any known range |
| 06:16.17 | chiper | how do you mean, randomly distributed? |
| 06:16.23 | chiper | as in, not in sequence? |
| 06:16.29 | dre^ | I'm not up on my higher maths, but it seems impossible to prove that a random set of numbers is random... given that random could be any sequence at all |
| 06:17.03 | Arrowmaster | you could randomly order a set of numbers and end up with them all being in order |
| 06:17.07 | chiper | the only way to prove it is to test against known sequences |
| 06:17.19 | ckknight | dre^: nah, given enough data, it's all about probabilities and confidence intervals |
| 06:17.29 | dre^ | fair enough |
| 06:18.10 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it's not about shuffling a list, it's about having a tuple of numbers, and given the entire tuple, prove that what you have is a random distribution |
| 06:18.28 | chiper | and yeah, if 100 numbers between 1 and 100 are polled, statistically you should get a straight sequence |
| 06:18.41 | chiper | when ordered, that is |
| 06:19.18 | ckknight | no, you shouldn't, ChiLLabiS |
| 06:19.25 | ckknight | err, chiper |
| 06:19.31 | ckknight | that'd be uniform distribution, not random distribution |
| 06:19.39 | ckknight | i.e. shuffle mode |
| 06:21.11 | chiper | well my math isnt that great, but it seems that every number between 1 and 100 has at least a 1/100th chance of being selected at least once, right. and that change would go up as other numbers get picked |
| 06:21.21 | Arrowmaster | you mean like even if your range of allowed numbers is -X to +X you dont have all positive or negative numbers? |
| 06:21.48 | chiper | s/change/chance |
| 06:22.12 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you could, but it's probabilistically unlikely |
| 06:22.14 | Arrowmaster | chiper: thats only if your selecting from a pool of numbers and cant pick the same number more than one |
| 06:22.15 | ckknight | though definitely possible |
| 06:22.20 | ckknight | especially within a small data set |
| 06:22.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont get what you mean by random distribution |
| 06:23.02 | chiper | arrow: hrm, yeah, that would make the chance go down. but still it should always remain 1/100 chance, shouldnt it? |
| 06:23.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:23.30 | chiper | so, in theory, every number in a 100 roll set has a chance to get picked once |
| 06:23.40 | Arrowmaster | if i flip a coin 20 times and get heads everytime its still a 50/50 chance when i flip it the 21st time |
| 06:23.42 | dre^ | teh prob doens't change |
| 06:23.54 | dre^ | you're just as likely to have 100 "10s" than 1 - 100 in sequence |
| 06:23.57 | ckknight | basically, say I have a function that does function() local t = {}; t[#t+1] = rand(-pi, pi); return t; end |
| 06:24.02 | dre^ | just ask rosencrantz and guildenstern! |
| 06:24.12 | ckknight | now on the other side, not knowing the innards of that function, prove that the result is a random distribution |
| 06:24.16 | dre^ | (now that's an obscure reference... let's see if anybody gets it!) |
| 06:24.22 | ckknight | also assume that you have 100 numbers and not just 1 |
| 06:24.22 | vithos | in theory, getting the same result 100 times is just as probable as any other result. but there's many ways to test the randomness of a sequence |
| 06:24.25 | ckknight | or whatever amount |
| 06:24.38 | chiper | uhg, this is already making my head hurt |
| 06:24.48 | ckknight | function make_list() local t = {}; for i = 1, 100 do t[#t+1] = rand(-pi, pi); end; return t; end |
| 06:25.03 | ckknight | now prove that the result of make_list() is random somehow |
| 06:25.16 | ckknight | I'm sure it's to do with standard deviations in some way |
| 06:25.20 | vithos | by prove, i don't guess you mean formally? just practically? |
| 06:25.47 | ckknight | probabilistically. |
| 06:25.54 | chiper | technically, that list isnt random, because rand() does use a formula to create the number |
| 06:26.03 | chiper | there is no such thing as a truely random number in computing |
| 06:26.06 | ckknight | it's random within a degree. |
| 06:26.29 | vithos | probabilistically every possible list is just as likely |
| 06:26.35 | ckknight | I'm not going to argue semantics with you, I know it's possible to come up with a number to tell how random something is |
| 06:26.49 | vithos | but yeah, there's not just one way to do what you want |
| 06:26.58 | vithos | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness_tests lists some |
| 06:27.13 | chiper | ah wikipedia, is there anything you dont know? |
| 06:27.32 | dre^ | (in any event, the reference was to a tom stoppard play called "rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead". the opening scene deals with exactly this problem :) |
| 06:27.51 | ckknight | aren't they from Hamlet? |
| 06:27.54 | dre^ | yes |
| 06:28.05 | dre^ | this is sort of hamlet from their perspective |
| 06:28.09 | dre^ | but it's a commedy |
| 06:28.26 | dre^ | they are the two fools in hamlet |
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| 06:33.44 | elusif | guys can anyone link me a precompiled databases of notes for cart? |
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| 06:33.56 | elusif | for npcs, mailboxes etc |
| 06:33.57 | Stanzilla | Cartographer_Data |
| 06:34.00 | elusif | i have cart mailboxes and trainers installed already |
| 06:34.05 | elusif | i have cartographer data installed too |
| 06:34.08 | Stanzilla | hm |
| 06:34.17 | elusif | but npcs only show up after i've visited them not before |
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| 06:45.27 | Fin | bigzero: how about, as a temporary solution (but also potentially useful for other people in other situations), you add an item level setting to Mirror, so that it only shows the comparison tooltip if the item is of <x> quality or higher? |
| 06:45.49 | Fin | that would hide the useless tooltips that I see whenever I mouse over a grey staff I've picked up, or some crappy gloves or whatever |
| 06:46.46 | Fin | I don't understand why it doesn't seem to bother anyone else :( |
| 06:46.51 | Kivin | I don't know what mirror does, but I'd be satisfied with: if ( ItemQuality >= EquippedItemQuality-1 ) ShowCompare |
| 06:49.37 | Orionshock | ..oy fubar plugin for ace3... the world is coming to an end.. |
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| 07:01.12 | Bruners | why is arkinventory informing me each time i open a bag that a bug has been fixed ? |
| 07:01.46 | Kivin | when was the last time you got a fresh copy off the trunk |
| 07:01.47 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:02.01 | Kivin | Nope, not reading it correctly. so sorry. |
| 07:03.40 | Kivin | rofl, it's like 20 lines of code |
| 07:04.19 | Orionshock | it's so hax too... i love it |
| 07:04.47 | Orionshock | i've read some of the v2 code.. it's messy some times... |
| 07:04.51 | Kivin | does it... even do anything? |
| 07:05.31 | Orionshock | v3 event handler is so simple because of how they coded CBH |
| 07:05.48 | Kivin | Does AceEvent3.0 even do anything? seriously? |
| 07:05.56 | Orionshock | ya it does |
| 07:06.06 | Kivin | I don't even see any code in it that is useful for anything |
| 07:06.21 | Orionshock | that's because you don't understand CallbackHandler |
| 07:10.42 | Kivin | You're right, I don't understand CallbackHandler. |
| 07:11.32 | Arrowmaster | i think a lot of people are going to look at CallbackHandler and go 'wtf?' of the usage of . vs : |
| 07:16.09 | Kivin | I'm not sure why it's being done, but it makes sense to me |
| 07:16.20 | Kivin | I mean, I understand it to read it |
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| 07:17.59 | Orionshock | what i don't understand is how ace event knows how to map the event to the addon's method... |
| 07:18.46 | Arrowmaster | self |
| 07:19.40 | Orionshock | seems kinda loose |
| 07:20.54 | Orionshock | too much fail silently bs |
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| 07:25.10 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 07:25.17 | Orionshock | i understand now... |
| 07:25.28 | Kivin | all has become clear? |
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| 07:30.38 | Orionshock | Tekkub: your idea is too open and too many loose ends that it looses viability. |
| 07:30.40 | Orionshock | :P |
| 07:31.10 | Tekkub | your ideas are all "fubar v3" |
| 07:31.16 | Tekkub | it NEEDS to be open |
| 07:31.22 | Tekkub | that's the whole goddamn point |
| 07:31.24 | Orionshock | and... |
| 07:31.39 | Tekkub | and if you want fuv3 just write it |
| 07:31.50 | Tekkub | this is for the rest of us that want something else |
| 07:32.13 | Orionshock | data and the display there of are very closely tied together. |
| 07:32.23 | Tekkub | and then if Fu wanted to implement it, it's fanbois would be happy too |
| 07:32.40 | Tekkub | yea you're really failing to miss the goddamn point |
| 07:32.52 | Tekkub | now piss off, I'm leveling |
| 07:33.33 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 07:33.34 | Orionshock | it's a great idea, but there are too many ins and too many outs that if you cover them all it'll be pointless, why not just have the data module plug directly into the display addon? |
| 07:33.59 | Tekkub | because I don't want to support 15 different display addons |
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| 07:34.17 | Tekkub | I provide a simple API in all my data addons and then it's the display addon's problem to render it |
| 07:34.28 | QuantumDelta | Anyone know what Ironshield is in german? |
| 07:34.53 | MoonWolf | sorry |
| 07:35.02 | MoonWolf | i can tell you the dutch version |
| 07:35.12 | QuantumDelta | might point me on the right track actually |
| 07:35.24 | MoonWolf | ijzerschild |
| 07:36.25 | QuantumDelta | thanks |
| 07:36.28 | QuantumDelta | it helped ;p |
| 07:36.43 | nevcairiel | Eisenschild is german |
| 07:36.58 | QuantumDelta | <3 nevcairiel |
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| 07:41.11 | Sh[a]na | Hey guys, is there a place to see revision history of a specific addon? |
| 07:41.22 | Sh[a]na | instead of the rev history of the lastest stuff |
| 07:41.40 | Stanzilla | fish.wowace.com |
| 07:41.44 | Kivin | Any SVN client can do it |
| 07:42.14 | nevcairiel | yeah fish will do that |
| 07:43.23 | Sh[a]na | ooh nice |
| 07:44.20 | bigzero | Fin, Kivin, i like that idea |
| 07:44.23 | Kivin | bigzero: What Idea? |
| 07:44.29 | bigzero | for mirror |
| 07:44.41 | bigzero | comparing item levels |
| 07:44.41 | Kivin | The quality comparison? |
| 07:44.49 | bigzero | yeah |
| 07:44.50 | Kivin | oh, iLevel |
| 07:45.08 | Kivin | Again, I don't know what Mirror is, but iLevels seem to varry greatly. |
| 07:45.19 | bigzero | mirror = tekkompare |
| 07:45.22 | Kivin | Seems to me just a simple quality comparison could work for most situations |
| 07:45.22 | bigzero | prety much |
| 07:45.38 | Kivin | If you're wearing epics, compare blues, epics, and legendaries |
| 07:45.46 | Kivin | if you're wearing blues, compare uncommon through legendaries |
| 07:46.05 | bigzero | iLevel could work out nicely too |
| 07:46.08 | bigzero | i think |
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| 07:46.23 | nevcairiel | iLevel on greens is higher then on blues, on blues higher then on epics |
| 07:46.24 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 07:46.50 | bigzero | that's wby blue > green |
| 07:46.57 | Kivin | That'd require a reasonable degree of knowledge about the game to figure the iLevels out (the average person might not have that readily available) |
| 07:47.35 | bigzero | it's not that complicated... ilevel is like a sum of all the stats on an item |
| 07:48.11 | bigzero | just give it like 20 level threshold for comparison |
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| 07:48.43 | Kivin | iLevels are getting farther and farther apart with each raid instance, and it'll only get worse in lich king |
| 07:49.16 | bigzero | well, for downgrading i doubt you'd want to wear something 20 ilevels lower |
| 07:49.27 | bigzero | for upgrades there wouldn't be a filter |
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| 07:59.13 | Nefarion | is CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE the only event to watch for for outgoing damage (the player damages something else)? |
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| 07:59.33 | Nefarion | wowwiki seems to be less than complete on that |
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| 08:06.24 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:06.40 | Arrowmaster | theres a completely different event for dot damage |
| 08:07.25 | Arrowmaster | and maybe different events for dot vs player and dot vs mob i dont remember |
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| 08:15.43 | Nefarion | nvm i found the melee damage one |
| 08:15.50 | Nefarion | other than dot and melee, any other? |
| 08:18.10 | nevcairiel | spell ? :P |
| 08:18.39 | Arrowmaster | melee white damage is different than melee special attacks i think |
| 08:18.48 | nevcairiel | that too |
| 08:18.55 | Sh[a]na | why is there different events for PvP and PvE... different calculations? |
| 08:18.57 | Arrowmaster | and yeah i think spells might be a different event too |
| 08:19.35 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember theres no event of just dot damage done by you |
| 08:19.51 | Arrowmaster | the events cover all dot damage |
| 08:20.46 | nevcairiel | yeah that event sucks |
| 08:22.07 | Arrowmaster | but you can always find your own dot damage because it says "Your ....", its even worse trying to get dot damage from pets or other guardians |
| 08:23.18 | nevcairiel | alliance mining trainer in outlands..? honor hold? |
| 08:23.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:24.14 | nevcairiel | oh well need to go there anyway to start farming fel iron |
| 08:24.49 | nevcairiel | leveling mining ftl :) |
| 08:25.25 | Nefarion | all i've found for 'self' is spell and hit |
| 08:25.30 | Nefarion | dots don't matter |
| 08:25.36 | Nefarion | i need anything that would be... over 9000 |
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| 08:27.11 | Orionshock | grr... the branch version of ag uf has this problem with raid frames.. it moves ppl but dosn't update the color code -.- |
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| 08:50.54 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58709 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: tweak collector checks |
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| 09:04.36 | bigzero | anyone bored enough to make a lvl 1 orc on Spirestone (US). I need guild charter sigs :-) |
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| 09:12.36 | Wobin_ | bigzero sure, lemme hand in a quest and I'll pop over |
| 09:12.41 | Wobin_ | What's the name? |
| 09:15.45 | Nefarion | okay you guys were wrong, exlcuing dots there's only 2 events for outgoing damage, but like 12 possible strings. got it down tho. |
| 09:16.19 | bigzero | Wobin_, renocook... just logged out, let me get back in |
| 09:17.20 | exor674 | bigzero: how any do you need |
| 09:17.29 | bigzero | 3 more :-) |
| 09:17.44 | exor674 | making one too |
| 09:17.56 | bigzero | i was offering 1g for sigs, but it seems like no one is making chars at 1am |
| 09:18.00 | exor674 | er, I can offer |
| 09:18.01 | exor674 | 2 |
| 09:19.07 | exor674 | kk, I'm the orc warrior who looks like a goldspammer name haha |
| 09:19.18 | exor674 | (didn't feel like poking random a dozen times) |
| 09:20.15 | exor674 | gimme a sec and I'll get one on my other account |
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| 09:20.54 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 09:21.00 | Wobin_ | how effective is JC as a moneymaker? |
| 09:21.05 | [Ammo] | very |
| 09:21.34 | Wobin_ | any tactics? |
| 09:21.42 | bigzero | be a miner too |
| 09:21.42 | Wobin_ | I'm starting from scratch on a new realm |
| 09:21.47 | syeren | Braided Eternium Chain > Gold. |
| 09:21.49 | syeren | :p |
| 09:22.07 | bigzero | wobin, not from scratch... you have 1g :-P |
| 09:22.18 | Wobin_ | hehe not that realm =) |
| 09:22.30 | Wobin_ | and tbh, I have a gold on this one too! |
| 09:22.37 | Wobin_ | by selling copper ore =P |
| 09:22.50 | bigzero | lol |
| 09:23.09 | bigzero | aww... somone should lvl up an alt on spirestone |
| 09:24.29 | bigzero | in my experience crafting professions are very slow at making g.. but i'm pretty bad at auctioning stuf |
| 09:24.34 | bigzero | i always get undercut |
| 09:24.52 | exor674 | lol, bigzero if i didn't give mine "faceplant" names I'd be tempted to |
| 09:25.11 | Kivin | I've yet to realize any profits from any crafting trades at all |
| 09:25.34 | exor674 | Alchemy can, I think |
| 09:25.43 | Kivin | I had a good thing going on superior mana oil for a while. Material cost ~7g, selling for 15g. then some dorkus undercut straight from 15g to 7.50 |
| 09:25.44 | bigzero | <--- alchemist |
| 09:25.45 | Orionshock | anyone got a cheep way of making a bar for the hateful strike on gruul? |
| 09:26.08 | bigzero | like a timer? |
| 09:26.24 | Wobin_ | is it timed? |
| 09:26.57 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58711 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: working readycheck overview, needs close on escape |
| 09:26.59 | bigzero | exor674, i specced pot mastery, and noone wants the frickin pots...it's ridiculous |
| 09:27.20 | bigzero | people want like super cheap flasks |
| 09:27.36 | bigzero | 5g cheaper than ah isn't even good enough for them |
| 09:27.59 | exor674 | I wonder what level you can spec an alch at |
| 09:28.08 | bigzero | 68 i think |
| 09:28.11 | bigzero | or 67 |
| 09:28.21 | exor674 | can you choose transmute at 50? or do oyu have to wait till higher |
| 09:28.31 | exor674 | I know alch/pot require drops from high-level instances |
| 09:28.43 | bigzero | can you get to netherstorm at 50? |
| 09:28.46 | Kivin | I've thought about making a potion mastery |
| 09:29.05 | bigzero | it's ok if you raid i think |
| 09:29.16 | bigzero | al depends on what your guild needs though |
| 09:29.30 | exor674 | probably could with help from a friendly guild warlock summonign me as close as possible |
| 09:29.35 | exor674 | then death-running :D |
| 09:29.50 | Kivin | you wont get ten paces through blades edge before you get ganked by something |
| 09:29.54 | Kivin | netherstorm is fairly forgiving, though |
| 09:30.14 | exor674 | hence the "get summoned right on the blades edge side of the netherstor border |
| 09:30.22 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10899 |
| 09:30.27 | bigzero | requires lvl 68 |
| 09:30.34 | Kivin | exor674: WHy not just get summoned to area 52? |
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| 09:30.45 | exor674 | warlock summoning doesn't work in Netherstorm |
| 09:30.48 | bigzero | can't summon to netherstorm i thought |
| 09:31.14 | bigzero | well, regardless you need lvl 68 |
| 09:31.15 | vithos | i thought you just can't summon to tempest keep |
| 09:31.22 | exor674 | nowhere in netherstorm |
| 09:31.25 | vithos | but i'e never tried |
| 09:32.00 | HIghoS | The only way to get summoned in netherstorm is via the summoning stone. |
| 09:32.05 | bigzero | because you can summon people without flying mounts to floating rocks, which = bad for them |
| 09:32.18 | exor674 | haha :D |
| 09:32.42 | vithos | there's floating rocks in other zones too |
| 09:32.53 | bigzero | nagrand...hmmm |
| 09:33.03 | vithos | and that island south of terokkar |
| 09:33.04 | exor674 | I think it'd be fun to get a warlock and 2 buddies on a floating rock somewhere above/near a town |
| 09:33.08 | Kivin | pretty well every zone has some unreachable place |
| 09:33.20 | vithos | and.. smv |
| 09:33.28 | exor674 | get 37-some people to roll random male characters |
| 09:33.43 | exor674 | summon all of them up to te rock, and have them all jump at once yelling "Its raining men" <_< |
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| 09:36.06 | bigzero | that's some weird fantasy you have exor |
| 09:36.08 | Orionshock | actualy i just need an 8 sec repeating timer |
| 09:36.12 | Orionshock | i got quarts |
| 09:39.06 | Kivin | are variables in for loops assumed to be local if they aren't declared before hand? |
| 09:39.11 | Kivin | for k, v in pairs(t) do |
| 09:39.27 | kergoth | k and v are local there period |
| 09:39.35 | Kivin | okay |
| 09:39.48 | haste | you can see a example of for done in pure lua in the manual |
| 09:39.55 | haste | which also shows that |
| 09:39.57 | Kivin | most of the manual makes no sense to me |
| 09:40.16 | [Ammo] | if most of the manual doesn't make sense maybe you should start with a basic programming course first? |
| 09:40.26 | Kivin | [Ammo]: /slap |
| 09:41.08 | Kivin | I consider myself a relatively competant and learned programmer. But the examples provided in the manual appear to have no real-world relevance |
| 09:41.20 | bigzero | lua> local a = 3; for a=1,5 do end; print(a) |
| 09:41.20 | lua_bot | bigzero: 3 |
| 09:43.36 | Kivin | Really wish I could open two instances of notepad++ |
| 09:44.01 | haste | (switch editor) |
| 09:44.08 | Kivin | I might very well have to |
| 09:44.19 | bigzero | Kivin, you can |
| 09:44.25 | Kivin | bigzero: please, do tell |
| 09:44.32 | Kivin | apparently i'm too indept to find the setting |
| 09:45.51 | bigzero | i think it's a command line thing.. i do remember reading about it |
| 09:45.57 | Kivin | i'll google it |
| 09:46.51 | Kivin | not seeing anything straight away |
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| 09:48.16 | Xinhuan | not only are loop counters in lua local to the loop, they are also protected |
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| 09:48.58 | Xinhuan | example: |
| 09:49.09 | bigzero | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1910686&forum_id=331754 |
| 09:49.13 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 5 do print(a) a = 1 end |
| 09:49.13 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 10, 1, 1, 1, 1 |
| 09:49.20 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 5 do print(i) i = 1 end |
| 09:49.20 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 09:49.32 | Kivin | cool |
| 09:49.46 | Kivin | bigzero: Interesting, thanks! |
| 09:50.37 | Kivin | bigzero: I run npp most often from the right click context menu in explorer. guess i'll have to either change my habits or change my editor |
| 09:51.01 | bigzero | you can change the command line for that right-click i thnk |
| 09:51.16 | bigzero | you mean you right-click and then click edit? |
| 09:51.20 | Kivin | I haven't the faintest idea how to do that. Most likely a registry key |
| 09:51.27 | Kivin | bigzero: basically. i click "open in notepad++" |
| 09:51.35 | bigzero | ah, let me check |
| 09:51.43 | Kivin | "Edit with Notepad++" is the exact text, sorry. |
| 09:53.23 | bigzero | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1859159&forum_id=331753 |
| 09:53.25 | bigzero | lol |
| 09:53.33 | bigzero | you're not the only one with ideas like that |
| 09:54.13 | Kivin | :D thanks |
| 09:54.28 | Kivin | it's fairly common stuff for other text editors, i don't know why they don't allow you to open multiple instances by default |
| 09:54.49 | Kivin | It's quicker for me to alt-tab back and forth between two windows than shift-tab or w/e it is between two tabs |
| 09:54.57 | bigzero | beats me, does seem like this should be a simple option in the settings |
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| 09:56.08 | bigzero | actually, that brings my saved counter to... |
| 09:56.10 | Kivin | Hmm the solution in that second link doesn't fit my registry |
| 09:56.11 | bigzero | 1 |
| 09:56.31 | Kivin | [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\Shell\Notepad++ multiInst.] <- i don't have a \*\Shell folder |
| 09:56.46 | bigzero | look at the bottom post |
| 09:56.54 | Kivin | yeah, workin on it |
| 09:57.50 | Kivin | I don't have that GUID |
| 09:58.52 | Kivin | okay, i found my notepad++'s GUID in the list |
| 10:00.03 | Kivin | None of that matches my registry at all |
| 10:00.12 | bigzero | i guess just try adding multi to it? |
| 10:00.19 | bigzero | make a new value |
| 10:00.28 | Kivin | I don't have a /settings key, i tried creating one and putting Multi in it. no dice. |
| 10:00.30 | bigzero | oh, no settings |
| 10:01.28 | Fin | http://instinct.org/~pgl/misc_useful/edit-with-scite.reg.txt |
| 10:01.45 | Fin | also, for great justice: http://instinct.org/~pgl/misc_useful/bash-shell-context-menu-entries.reg.txt |
| 10:02.15 | Recluse | so i have one more question for any baggins users out there which is boggling me - how the heck do you make it show the bag changer? :p |
| 10:02.25 | [Ammo] | if I want to close a frame when pressing escape, do I hook closespecialwindows or is there another way? |
| 10:02.57 | Kivin | Fin: That's the same solution as bigzero has. Except i don't have a \shell key in \* |
| 10:03.07 | Nargiddley | Recluse, it doesnt hide the default bag changer |
| 10:03.10 | Xinhuan | tinsert(_G["UISpecialFrames"], "WoWEquip_Frame"); |
| 10:03.19 | [Ammo] | alright |
| 10:03.21 | Xinhuan | wow will close every frame in UISpecialFrames |
| 10:03.24 | Xinhuan | on esc |
| 10:03.28 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 10:03.28 | Xinhuan | frame has to be global |
| 10:03.54 | Kivin | the -multiInst thing actually works, but it's sort of cumbersome |
| 10:03.54 | Recluse | Nargiddley: i hid the default one many moons ago when i started using bt3 - do i need to maybe turn that one back on and shrink it into a corner or something? |
| 10:04.14 | Recluse | (ie, is there not one in baggins itself?) |
| 10:04.17 | Nargiddley | yeah, Baggins doesnt have one of its own |
| 10:04.27 | Recluse | alrighty, ty |
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| 10:05.07 | bigzero | Kivin, yeah, maybe if you added that as the "Edit" command for the file type |
| 10:05.22 | Kivin | perhaps |
| 10:05.36 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i thought there was a way to register a frame for escape |
| 10:05.44 | Xinhuan | that is the method |
| 10:05.49 | bigzero | like a a function |
| 10:05.50 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58712 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: close readycheck results on escape |
| 10:05.56 | Xinhuan | there isn't |
| 10:06.02 | Xinhuan | its just inserting your framename into a table |
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| 10:06.18 | Recluse | Margiddley: hrm, but what of the bank bag changer - would i have to disable the open baggins override when i want to change those bags? - just so i won't have to ask later XD |
| 10:06.28 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 10:07.18 | [SW]Dodge | is there something like targetsmouseovertarget? |
| 10:07.41 | wereHamster | bigzero, here you go: function RegisterFrameForEscape(f) table.insert(UISpecialFrames, f) end |
| 10:07.57 | kergoth | [SW]Dodge: how exactly would your target be using a mouse? your target cant have a mouseover. |
| 10:07.59 | kergoth | :P |
| 10:08.04 | bigzero | wereHamster, thanks |
| 10:08.29 | [SW]Dodge | kergoth: if my target is a player? :P |
| 10:09.17 | Kivin | bigzero: I created the /*/Shell key, added the "Notepad++ MultiInst" to it, and it seems to work |
| 10:09.25 | kergoth | right, since blizzard obviously uses their network bandwidth to send you every mouse movement |
| 10:09.27 | Kivin | bigzero: now i can't find my notepad++ executable to key it into the command field |
| 10:09.44 | bigzero | huh? |
| 10:09.49 | Kivin | hmm it must be hidden |
| 10:10.01 | Kivin | all i have is a dll in my program files/notepad++ folder |
| 10:10.02 | bigzero | what do you mean? program files/notepad++ |
| 10:10.26 | bigzero | i have an exe |
| 10:10.33 | bigzero | notepad++.exe |
| 10:10.52 | Wobin | I has a bucket |
| 10:11.21 | Kivin | I have an empty notepad++ folder o.O except a dll |
| 10:11.27 | bigzero | lol |
| 10:11.31 | bigzero | reinstall |
| 10:11.56 | Kivin | fracking thing created two separate folders, or something. I have notepad++ and notepadPlusPlus |
| 10:11.58 | bigzero | or do a search for it |
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| 10:13.52 | bigzero | night, off to bed... it's getting early here |
| 10:14.04 | Kivin | o/ |
| 10:14.39 | Killmore | omg ora3 |
| 10:17.46 | [Ammo] | omg omg omg quick download, ditch oRA2 and look like an idiot in the process :p |
| 10:17.49 | Grum | lua> 2^16 |
| 10:17.49 | lua_bot | Grum: 65536 |
| 10:17.54 | Grum | lua> 2^50 |
| 10:17.54 | lua_bot | Grum: 1.1258999068426e+15 |
| 10:18.20 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], didn't you start developing the coconut eating monster ages ago ? |
| 10:18.28 | [Ammo] | I did |
| 10:18.38 | [Ammo] | and oRA3 is kinda the result of that |
| 10:18.42 | [Ammo] | but different |
| 10:18.48 | Kivin | sweet, i got the context menu working. ty bigzero and Fin |
| 10:18.48 | [Ammo] | working on completing the readycheck module atm |
| 10:18.49 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 10:18.53 | MoonWolf | never tried it. |
| 10:19.03 | [Ammo] | well SRA was kinda handy |
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| 10:19.20 | Fin | now install Cygwin! |
| 10:19.30 | Kivin | cygwin? |
| 10:19.40 | Fin | my favourite thing ever is "bash shell in root folder" in the context menu of any file |
| 10:19.49 | Megalon | :D |
| 10:19.50 | Fin | -root+parent |
| 10:20.01 | Fin | Kivin: unix on windows |
| 10:20.09 | Kivin | yuck :P |
| 10:20.15 | Kivin | <- teh *nix noob |
| 10:20.17 | Megalon | there should be more filebashing in context menus! |
| 10:20.26 | Fin | don't knock what you haven't tried |
| 10:20.50 | Kivin | I've tried much Linix and was absolutely terrible at operating it. Dunno about unix though |
| 10:21.09 | Fin | just think of it as all the same until you can figure out the differences yourself |
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| 10:22.24 | SunTsu | The "problem" with any unix is: It is a damn mystery until you are willing to learn a lot about it |
| 10:23.21 | Arrowmaster | isnt that the problem with any os |
| 10:23.28 | HIghoS | ^ |
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| 10:23.52 | Kivin | I tried at least 3 different implementations of Linux (four if you count Lindows, lol) and for the most part they didn't seem to have any sane defaults. I was looking at a command prompt that I knew nothing about and could never figure out how to get a graphical operating system going |
| 10:24.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:24.07 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: No, there are some that _seem_ to be easier |
| 10:24.42 | SunTsu | Kivin: Ubuntu/Kubuntu |
| 10:24.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah try ubuntu |
| 10:24.53 | Kivin | SunTsu: Dawhowhat? |
| 10:25.03 | Kivin | I'd rather not "try" anything, tbh. |
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| 10:25.15 | Arrowmaster | it has a livecd |
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| 10:25.31 | Kivin | This was near ten years ago when I actually didn't mind breaking everything with my computer and spending sleepless nights fixing it |
| 10:25.37 | Arrowmaster | but yeah if you were at a command prompt and dont know anything your kinda screwed |
| 10:25.54 | Arrowmaster | because you probably didnt even have a gui installed |
| 10:25.59 | Kivin | Very probably |
| 10:26.23 | HIghoS | So your judging this on an experience you had 10 years ago? |
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| 10:26.33 | SunTsu | Kivin: Well, ten years ago? That was a whole different world, then. Ubuntu is made for ease of use and defaults to a GUI |
| 10:26.35 | Kivin | HIghoS: I'm not Judging anything |
| 10:26.57 | HIghoS | Ok, perhaps that's the wrong word. Just saying if you haven't used or tried it for that long... it's a lot different now. |
| 10:27.00 | Wobin | ubuntu is dead easy |
| 10:27.03 | Kivin | To be perfectly candid, I'm not interested in using another operating system. For all it's shortcomings, Windows does what i need it to do |
| 10:27.03 | Wobin | now |
| 10:27.09 | Arrowmaster | hell 10 years ago we were stuck with crap like windows 9x |
| 10:27.11 | HIghoS | It would be like not wanting to use ace mods because of my first few experiences with them >.> |
| 10:27.13 | Arrowmaster | all guis sucked then |
| 10:27.42 | HIghoS | "Use that works for the job at hand." :) |
| 10:28.25 | Arrowmaster | im actually fed up with windows enough that the next desktop i build is going to run linux instead of windows |
| 10:28.40 | Kivin | Well, the last time I fooled around with Linux was Redhat, IIRC, and I was on win2k at the time... would have been '99, probably |
| 10:30.14 | SunTsu | Kivin: Well, if you feel Windows is right for you, just keep on using it. I honestly can't stand it and I hope tonight my FreeBSD is ready to go and WoW works with wine, then |
| 10:30.53 | Kivin | SunTsu: I don't like windows and never had, but it's got sane defaults and I don't need to worry about things like whether wow is going to work on the emulator or not |
| 10:30.58 | Kivin | and that's good enough for me |
| 10:31.24 | Arrowmaster | wow works perfectly in wine |
| 10:31.25 | Kivin | in years gone by, i had windows heavily modded, and even used a replacement shell. but it's fallen into disrepair as the lead programmer has abandoned it |
| 10:31.50 | Arrowmaster | heh im using a replacement shell right now that hasnt been updated in years |
| 10:31.56 | Kivin | which one? |
| 10:32.11 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: In linux, yes, but FreeBSD is a whole different beast at that ;) |
| 10:32.15 | Arrowmaster | bb4win or bblean\bbclean to be more precise |
| 10:32.21 | Kivin | hmm i see |
| 10:32.44 | Arrowmaster | i messed with lightstep on win98 a long time ago |
| 10:33.02 | HIghoS | wow they ported blackbox to windows? |
| 10:33.11 | HIghoS | Holy crap, I wish I had known that before... |
| 10:33.14 | Kivin | I used geoShell for years and years |
| 10:33.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:33.20 | Kivin | what's blackbox |
| 10:33.31 | Arrowmaster | its actually closer to fluxbox |
| 10:33.36 | Arrowmaster | my menus have icons and all |
| 10:34.02 | Kivin | I would actually like to go back to geoShell |
| 10:34.11 | Kivin | I could probably fix the few small issues it had mysel |
| 10:34.11 | Kivin | f |
| 10:34.12 | Arrowmaster | blackbox is a really really and i mean really simple gui for nix |
| 10:34.29 | HIghoS | You can't get much more simpler then that. |
| 10:34.33 | HIghoS | Other then fvwm, lol |
| 10:35.09 | Kivin | http://www.boxshots.org/screenies/4701.jpg <- that's really attractive |
| 10:35.11 | HIghoS | I always did like how it kept the clean lines of enlightenment but kept the simplistic style. |
| 10:35.11 | Arrowmaster | i wish windows had a rollup feature builtin |
| 10:36.17 | Kivin | minimal is awsome if there's still quick ways to access things |
| 10:36.33 | SunTsu | I wish I did not leave home without packing my user into the wheel group, so I could use "su". dammit. |
| 10:36.39 | Kivin | in geoShell, i had a little pull up textbox at the bottom of my screen that accepted configurable patterns |
| 10:37.46 | Arrowmaster | i have an empty space at the bottem of my screen when i maximize windows that i can right click in or i can rightclick on the right or left edges of a maximixed window to bring up my menu to access everything |
| 10:38.09 | phyber | I just noticed LibParser-4.0. Is there some mega advantage to it that means I should upgrade TopScoreFu to use it while I'm playing with that mod? Looks like it should be pretty simple to switch since it still uses the same names for things, t.sourceID, etc. |
| 10:38.13 | Kivin | Yeah i had windows maximize 4 pixels from the bottom of my screen |
| 10:38.55 | Arrowmaster | i perty much always have some window maximized |
| 10:39.16 | Arrowmaster | usually irc |
| 10:39.48 | Kivin | generally firefox maximized, wow in windowed in the background, and iirc occupying the right third of my screen |
| 10:40.01 | Kivin | I'll definitely have to give blackbox a try |
| 10:40.22 | Arrowmaster | ill warn you |
| 10:40.47 | Arrowmaster | it hasnt been updated much, and to really get useful features from it you need to add some plugins |
| 10:41.01 | Kivin | That's understandable |
| 10:41.05 | Srosh | ~seen |Jerry| |
| 10:41.08 | purl | Srosh: i haven't seen '|jerry|' |
| 10:41.08 | Kivin | As long as it isn't buggy and unusable |
| 10:41.21 | Srosh | ~seen jerry |
| 10:41.22 | purl | jerry <n=root@202.74.105.113> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 91d 7h 58m 36s ago, saying: 'MSG GreaseMonkey hi.'. |
| 10:42.44 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: I well imagine I should make Windows Blinds go far away before trying to load up BB |
| 10:43.15 | Arrowmaster | probably |
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| 10:46.03 | Poul|Raider | SendChatMessage("----| 5 Seconds left for Biddings |----", "RAID_WARNING"); anyone able to spot a escape char |
| 10:46.13 | Poul|Raider | friend getting an error, and i cant spot it |
| 10:46.13 | kaway | http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6294/griderrorpn2.jpg |
| 10:46.18 | kaway | getting spammed with that error from Grid |
| 10:46.20 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: | |
| 10:46.20 | Kivin | Poul|Raider: | is an escape char |
| 10:46.21 | kaway | any idea what that could be? |
| 10:46.23 | Kivin | use || instead |
| 10:46.28 | Poul|Raider | tx |
| 10:47.20 | Kivin | Arrowmaster: do i awnt BBLean, Xoblite, or BB4Win? |
| 10:47.32 | Kivin | want* |
| 10:48.08 | Arrowmaster | sec |
| 10:49.34 | Arrowmaster | im using BBClean which is a moded version of BBLean |
| 10:49.53 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lostinthebox.com/viewforum.php?f=3 |
| 10:52.02 | Kivin | Hmm.. k |
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| 10:53.43 | Kivin | wow, that was fast. click the icon, and boom |
| 10:54.01 | Kivin | windowblinds takes forever to get everything skinned |
| 10:54.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:54.20 | Arrowmaster | or you can run it with -install option then reboot |
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| 10:54.24 | Kivin | weird, there's no right click menu on my taskbar items |
| 10:55.13 | kaway | addon/grid/gridstatusrange.lua : attempting to compare nil with number ... |
| 10:55.17 | kaway | anyone got an idea what that error is? |
| 10:55.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember the details of bbleanbar, using systembarex and bbtray for my taskbar and trayicons |
| 10:55.53 | Arrowmaster | bar across the top of the screen and tray at the bottemright |
| 10:55.54 | Kivin | kaway: Something is coming up nil that shouldn't be |
| 10:56.07 | Kivin | i'll track those down |
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| 10:56.30 | Kivin | will they be on the bb4win plugin page |
| 10:56.41 | Arrowmaster | http://xoblite.net/plugins.html |
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| 10:57.01 | Kivin | yeah |
| 10:57.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah theyre there |
| 10:57.21 | Arrowmaster | perty old though |
| 10:57.32 | Arrowmaster | like everything else bb4win related |
| 10:58.34 | Ellipsis | kivin did what now? |
| 10:58.54 | Fin | ohhh, OK, it's just another shell |
| 10:59.05 | Kivin | Ellipsis: I installed blackbox for windows |
| 10:59.10 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 10:59.18 | CIA-8 | 03kunda * r58713 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: deDE update |
| 10:59.18 | Ellipsis | good luck, hope you don't have as many issues with it as I do |
| 10:59.23 | Kivin | D: |
| 10:59.46 | Arrowmaster | it keeps people from touching my computer =D |
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| 11:00.07 | Arrowmaster | mines extemely custom setup |
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| 11:00.20 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: I always thought that passwords did that job quite well ;) |
| 11:00.29 | Ellipsis | yeah my bf got confused when he tried to use mine with bbclean running |
| 11:00.31 | Arrowmaster | well yeah that too |
| 11:00.34 | Ellipsis | he was like "where's the start menu?" |
| 11:00.56 | Arrowmaster | when i would goto lan partys nobody would even ask to try and do anything on my computer |
| 11:01.16 | Kivin | I'm not a big fan of these tiny 16x16 icons on my systembarex |
| 11:01.36 | Arrowmaster | its all customizeable |
| 11:01.40 | Arrowmaster | you just have to find the options |
| 11:01.51 | Kivin | looking for them |
| 11:01.55 | Arrowmaster | good luck |
| 11:02.11 | Ellipsis | all that stuff can be set up from the config file |
| 11:02.28 | Arrowmaster | thats because all the options are saved in config files |
| 11:02.48 | Arrowmaster | some of the plugins i have can only be configured from editing the config files |
| 11:04.11 | Kivin | .SC: 2146212482 |
| 11:04.15 | Kivin | wonder what those settings are |
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| 11:05.12 | Kivin | alright, double sized icons, now we're cookin |
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| 11:26.07 | Kivin | Is there a way to stop using the 4 workspaces in this system tray, Arrowmaster? |
| 11:26.34 | Arrowmaster | you can adjust the number of workspaces somewhere and change it to 1 |
| 11:26.46 | Kivin | okay, i'll see if i can't find that |
| 11:27.08 | Arrowmaster | and should also then be able to turnoff the workspace display in the bar |
| 11:27.50 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58714 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: show duration of readycheck in header. Close frame 5 seconds after the readycheck is done |
| 11:27.54 | Kivin | Also, since I have no desktop icons or anything, would be nice if I had a command prompt readily available. do you know of any plugin? |
| 11:28.34 | Arrowmaster | theres a BBZCmdEX |
| 11:28.45 | Kivin | thanks |
| 11:28.50 | Arrowmaster | i think that might be what your wanting |
| 11:29.20 | Kivin | I'll give it a shot |
| 11:29.32 | Kivin | and there's nothing in the systembarex docs about changing the workspaces |
| 11:30.27 | Arrowmaster | its in the blackbox.rc |
| 11:30.33 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58715 10Bio_Tint/: Bio_Tint: Created folder. |
| 11:30.37 | Arrowmaster | session.screen0.workspaces: 4 |
| 11:30.44 | Kivin | oh, i thought it was something specific to the plugin |
| 11:30.46 | Kivin | thanks |
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| 11:33.29 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58716 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: clean up some leftover junk |
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| 11:34.29 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58717 10Bio_Tint/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Bio_Tint: Added files. |
| 11:34.32 | Kivin | guess it didn't like being set to '1' very much |
| 11:34.43 | Kivin | had to shut everything down and re-open em in the new workspace |
| 11:34.46 | Dezzimal | oshit |
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| 11:37.38 | Dezzimal | is there documentation for ora3 yet? |
| 11:38.47 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:39.08 | Orionshock | there are 3 rules about ora3, 1) You do not talk about oRA2, 2) You do not talk about oRA2, 3) You do not talk about oRA2 |
| 11:39.09 | Killmore | :( |
| 11:39.24 | Arrowmaster | failure |
| 11:39.28 | Orionshock | lol .. copy and past FTL |
| 11:39.42 | Orionshock | *paste |
| 11:39.48 | Dezzimal | oh its not in a working format yet? |
| 11:39.50 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 11:40.30 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58718 10Bio_Tint/: Bio_Tint: Externals. |
| 11:40.49 | Orionshock | wesslen -- the hell is bio_tint? |
| 11:42.26 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58719 10Bio_Pulse/: Bio_Pulse: Created folder. |
| 11:42.34 | Arrowmaster | whos wesslen |
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| 11:47.47 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58720 10Bio_Pulse/ (29 files in 2 dirs): Bio_Pulse: Added files. |
| 11:52.37 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58721 10Bio_Pulse/: Bio_Pulse: Externals. |
| 11:52.41 | Orionshock | there a way to get prat to flash the chat tabs when there is new text in a channel assigned to that tab? |
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| 11:54.42 | Kivin | eww, blackbox just crashed and left me with no shell |
| 11:54.48 | Kivin | boo hiss |
| 11:54.53 | Ellipsis | /run explorer.exe |
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| 12:08.05 | ramoz | man |
| 12:08.14 | ramoz | i need a new forum to browse |
| 12:08.30 | ramoz | my guildforum is dull and borin |
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| 12:15.22 | exor674 | Arca trash is mostly demons or humanoids, right? |
| 12:15.34 | Ellipsis | some beasts |
| 12:16.53 | Grum | lotsof beasts |
| 12:17.06 | Kivin | the horror things don't have a type, iirc |
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| 12:19.45 | Grum | trueish |
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| 12:25.52 | Kivin | My god is blackbox ever unstable |
| 12:26.18 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 12:33.19 | ramoz | blackbox + windows? |
| 12:33.26 | Kivin | ramoz: yes |
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| 12:33.48 | haste | sounds.. odd |
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| 12:33.51 | ramoz | ... |
| 12:33.56 | ramoz | thats never been stable |
| 12:33.59 | ramoz | and prolly never will |
| 12:34.17 | Kivin | wonderful |
| 12:34.20 | ramoz | dont think i've ever come over some stable software that replaces the normal windows shell |
| 12:34.44 | Kivin | geoShell did |
| 12:34.47 | ramoz | haste! *stabs* |
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| 12:34.56 | ramoz | give me oTweaks |
| 12:35.03 | Ellipsis | otweaks for windows? |
| 12:35.10 | haste | give me a working WoW |
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| 12:35.45 | haste | creating a snapshot of my / atm, then I'll revert my kernel and hope it doesn't corrupt my / :-P |
| 12:36.02 | haste | and hopefully that + downgrading my nvidia drivers will solve the lockups |
| 12:36.10 | haste | which oddly enough only happen in WoW |
| 12:40.49 | ramoz | is the oTweak in your trunk working at all? |
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| 12:41.21 | haste | it works, but doesn't enforce settings or anything |
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| 13:10.18 | Xinhuan | ZA gong 4 - My guild 0 |
| 13:10.27 | Xinhuan | door just doesn't open |
| 13:12.26 | Ellipsis | it's because you're a gnome |
| 13:15.28 | haste | Xinhuan: NICE DOOR! |
| 13:15.46 | Xinhuan | ... |
| 13:15.48 | Xinhuan | ZA gong 5 - My guild 0 |
| 13:16.06 | haste | (ten points to whoever sees that refrence through!) |
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| 13:16.26 | Xinhuan | ZA gong 5 - My guild 1 |
| 13:16.27 | Xinhuan | WHOA |
| 13:16.34 | Xinhuan | only took 26 minutes to open the za door |
| 13:16.47 | Ellipsis | is the door the first boss now? |
| 13:16.56 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 13:16.56 | purl | :/ |
| 13:17.09 | Ellipsis | hope the loot was good at least |
| 13:18.20 | Kivin | wtb a carto module that lets me report afk from the world map |
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| 13:19.27 | Xinhuan | its easy - disable "Group Colors" module |
| 13:19.33 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r58723 10Grid/GridStatusRange.lua: Grid: bugfix, GetUnitRange() may return nil |
| 13:19.35 | Kivin | it isn't enabled iirc |
| 13:19.49 | Kivin | nope, not enabled |
| 13:20.51 | Xinhuan | disable the cart_battlegrounds module too |
| 13:21.02 | Xinhuan | the one htat provides bg maps |
| 13:21.12 | Kivin | still no rightclicky |
| 13:21.20 | Xinhuan | reloadui after disabling? |
| 13:21.26 | Kivin | kk |
| 13:21.28 | Xinhuan | disable from main menu |
| 13:22.49 | Kivin | now something is really borked since i shut off _battlegrounds |
| 13:23.03 | Kivin | when i hit M a second time to close my map, the frame moves on the screen but doesn't hide |
| 13:23.25 | Ellipsis | make sure M isn't bound to alternate map |
| 13:23.40 | Kivin | alternate map? |
| 13:24.36 | Kivin | Erm had a profile "Alternate" selected, i put it back to Default |
| 13:24.41 | Kivin | which appears to have fixed it |
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| 13:27.07 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58724 10/branches/GatherMate/Sextant.lua: remove un-needed module |
| 13:27.58 | kenlyric | poor div :( http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 13:28.12 | Fisker- | MADNESS |
| 13:28.35 | Ellipsis | SPARTAAAA |
| 13:28.44 | kenlyric | KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN |
| 13:28.56 | Ellipsis | ^win |
| 13:29.41 | Fisker- | you are going to die |
| 13:29.54 | Ellipsis | well are, someday |
| 13:29.58 | Ellipsis | we all* |
| 13:30.06 | Ellipsis | mah keyboard is swallowing mah letters :( |
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| 13:30.37 | haste | feed it more |
| 13:31.11 | Fisker- | gonna feed your mother |
| 13:31.16 | Ellipsis | I gave it lots of crumbs yesterday |
| 13:31.25 | Ellipsis | but apparently it's hungry again already :( |
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| 13:32.12 | Fisker- | RAWR TIEMS |
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| 13:33.23 | Fisker- | 1+1 ) 2 |
| 13:33.25 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 13:33.27 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 2 |
| 13:33.35 | Kivin | thanks for sharing that with us |
| 13:33.44 | Ellipsis | the more you know~ |
| 13:33.53 | kenlyric | but, 2 +2 = 5 |
| 13:34.12 | Kivin | I shared that with my AV group and they were amazed |
| 13:34.37 | Ascalia | can someone help me with a table? pls /w for more details |
| 13:34.48 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 13:34.48 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 13:35.07 | Kalroth | ~asktoasktoask |
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| 13:35.36 | Kalroth | So it's ok to ask to ask to ask about things!? |
| 13:35.46 | Kivin | purl, is it okay if i ask to ask a question? |
| 13:37.26 | Chompers | meta |
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| 13:38.47 | xyu | 16 wipes to archi and our best attempt was 12% /le sigh |
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| 13:46.57 | Yazilliclick | Is wowwiki the best guide/learning place for how to make a gui for an addon? |
| 13:48.34 | Kivin | wowwiki and the frameXML |
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| 13:50.53 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58725 10oRA3/ (modules/ReadyCheck.lua oRA3.lua): oRA3: tweaks |
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| 13:59.24 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58726 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: fixed a data bug in the rare list |
| 13:59.27 | [SW]Dodge | anyone knows how much runecloth is needed to get an alliance fraction friendly -> exalted? AND if it is possible with lv40 |
| 13:59.43 | kenlyric | no |
| 13:59.47 | kenlyric | you have to be 50 to get that quest |
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| 14:00.08 | kenlyric | but you can hit exalted before that just by questing. |
| 14:00.35 | [SW]Dodge | damn |
| 14:00.53 | kenlyric | well, it might be more difficult for gnomes faction or if you're horde and you started neutral with the faction you want. |
| 14:01.02 | [SW]Dodge | are pvp mounts reputation bounded? |
| 14:01.06 | kenlyric | no |
| 14:01.13 | kenlyric | but they require AV. |
| 14:01.16 | kenlyric | which requires 51. |
| 14:01.25 | [SW]Dodge | -.- |
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| 14:01.58 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/kenlyric_2006-12_49kittymount.jpg |
| 14:02.15 | kenlyric | ignore the abortion of a UI. |
| 14:02.16 | Grum | you have a soft furry pussy |
| 14:02.23 | Hjalte | Damn Antiarc, you must have a hard life with reading all of the bug reports on Curse. |
| 14:02.43 | Grum | so dont read curse .. problem solved! =D |
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| 14:03.49 | kenlyric | [SW]Dodge: what faction are you, and what faction do you want? |
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| 14:05.10 | [SW]Dodge | human want darnassus |
| 14:05.41 | [SW]Dodge | frostsaber > horse |
| 14:05.45 | kenlyric | yup' |
| 14:05.48 | Industrial | true |
| 14:05.57 | kenlyric | just start at teldrassil and work your way out |
| 14:06.06 | kenlyric | do any and all quests. |
| 14:06.24 | kenlyric | you might have to do feathermoon stronghold quests to hit exalted though. |
| 14:06.30 | kenlyric | which means you won't hit it until high 40s |
| 14:06.48 | [SW]Dodge | im allready 34 <.< |
| 14:07.17 | Kivin | AV weekend is such a hoax. I'm sitting on ~600 Honor an hour |
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| 14:07.48 | [SW]Dodge | so if it is not possible to get exalted without qs i have to wait until 60 and get an epic mount :P |
| 14:07.56 | Alokie | I think my table doesn't do anything at all right now, I created it (line says "local QuestLogLBTable = {};") and I try to save a boolean in it with QuestLogLBTable[leaderboardTxt].done = isDone (isDone gets boolean from API GetQuestLogLeaderBoard; "QuestLogLBTable[leaderboardTxt] = {};" is executed if QuestLogLBTable[leaderboardTxt] == nil)) but its nil everytime, need help :P |
| 14:08.14 | [SW]Dodge | maybe theblack war saber |
| 14:08.46 | Kivin | Alokie: pastey code, i can't read that wall of text |
| 14:08.53 | kenlyric | pvp mounts are ghetto |
| 14:08.57 | kenlyric | get a real one, like a man. |
| 14:09.08 | [SW]Dodge | lol :D |
| 14:09.29 | [SW]Dodge | it think ill get my third frostsaber XD |
| 14:09.31 | kenlyric | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Kargath&n=Prettiest I'm a lazy fucker, I did it. |
| 14:09.41 | [SW]Dodge | 1 for my druid 1 for my wl 1 for may mage XD |
| 14:09.48 | [SW]Dodge | may =my :D |
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| 14:11.42 | CIA-8 | 03wesslen * r58727 10Bio_Pulse/Bio_Pulse.lua: Bio_Pulse: The per-character database is no longer used, so removed it from RegisterDB. |
| 14:11.43 | SunTsu | I always wanted the winter sabler, but was way too lazy to get it |
| 14:12.04 | [SW]Dodge | kenlyric: LOL |
| 14:12.54 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r58728 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc): |
| 14:12.54 | CIA-8 | Recount: |
| 14:12.54 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update.(rechecked) |
| 14:13.21 | elusif | do any of you have cart displaying npcs and mailboxes on your map before you've ever met them? |
| 14:13.39 | kenlyric | not mailboxes, but npcs |
| 14:13.49 | kenlyric | trainers comes with data, I think. |
| 14:13.57 | kenlyric | maybe mailboxes does now too. |
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| 14:14.06 | elusif | sorry dc |
| 14:14.11 | elusif | i have nn_trainers installed |
| 14:14.23 | elusif | but they only come up on my map after i've visited them |
| 14:14.40 | kenlyric | then it must not come with data. |
| 14:14.44 | elusif | to install cart_data i just have to put it in the addons folder and make sure the box beside it is checked in wow before i enter realm? |
| 14:15.00 | kenlyric | but cart_data is just treasure, herb, and mining |
| 14:15.08 | kenlyric | and yes |
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| 14:15.37 | Kivin | Alokie: When you're done flooding my IRC with code, please see the topic about pastey |
| 14:15.52 | elusif | i have trainers and mailboxes in addons too |
| 14:15.58 | kenlyric | ok |
| 14:16.02 | elusif | but it will only put them on my map after i've visited them |
| 14:16.08 | elusif | can't i get it to show them before i have? |
| 14:16.11 | kenlyric | that's what they're suppose to do. |
| 14:16.14 | kenlyric | no. |
| 14:16.23 | Chompers | as a rogue, what poisons should i be using in pve? |
| 14:16.23 | elusif | is there no precompiled database of npcs i can import or something like metamap? |
| 14:16.32 | kenlyric | not officially |
| 14:16.38 | elusif | :( |
| 14:16.39 | kenlyric | maybe on the wowace forums there is one. |
| 14:16.42 | Chompers | double deadly or inst/deadly? |
| 14:16.45 | elusif | there's not |
| 14:16.50 | kenlyric | then no. |
| 14:16.52 | elusif | sux |
| 14:16.58 | elusif | ty anyway |
| 14:17.04 | Kivin | Chompers: Depends on how often you have 5 stacks of deadly up |
| 14:17.15 | Chompers | it varies wildly |
| 14:17.23 | Kivin | Chompers: If you can stack 5 deadly with one application and keep it up, then that'd be best |
| 14:17.40 | Chompers | 1.8 offhand, so its pretty fast'ish |
| 14:17.44 | Kivin | doesn't shiv guarantee a poison application or something? |
| 14:17.54 | RaydenUni | yay battlemasters will be on pedestals next patch |
| 14:17.58 | RaydenUni | well 2.4 |
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| 14:19.23 | Hjalte | RaydenUni: Source? |
| 14:19.53 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/17/tigole-hits-the-forums/ |
| 14:19.58 | RaydenUni | Tigole on the forums |
| 14:20.20 | RaydenUni | i'm not sure where the link to the forums is though |
| 14:21.10 | kenlyric | WoWInsider |
| 14:21.20 | kenlyric | Bringing you yesterday's news, TODAY1 |
| 14:21.27 | Kivin | Alokie: What variable is always nil? |
| 14:21.45 | RaydenUni | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032294715&postId=40043354238&sid=1#2 |
| 14:22.04 | RaydenUni | they posted it yesterday |
| 14:22.07 | RaydenUni | wowinsider that is |
| 14:22.22 | RaydenUni | and print news always lags behind the events |
| 14:22.30 | RaydenUni | the price you pay for someone else filtering it for you |
| 14:22.34 | Alokie | keeps spamming "ITEM/MOB.." or "DESC_TABLE_WAS_NIL" messages |
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| 14:23.30 | Kivin | You're testing ...[...].complete for a meaningful value on line 24, but giving it the value on line 28 |
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| 14:25.06 | Alokie | thats on purpose, hte complete message should be displayed just once |
| 14:26.07 | [SW]Dodge | lol, on my server someone reached gold cap |
| 14:26.29 | exor674 | what IS the old cap? |
| 14:26.37 | Grum | 2^31 |
| 14:26.50 | Grum | lua> 2^31 |
| 14:26.50 | lua_bot | Grum: 2147483648 |
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| 14:26.58 | Kivin | 2^31 copper, i assume |
| 14:27.00 | SunTsu | -1 normally |
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| 14:27.07 | Grum | lua> 2^31/100/100 |
| 14:27.08 | lua_bot | Grum: 214748.3648 |
| 14:27.38 | Grum | not really unachievable |
| 14:27.49 | Grum | just curious how to do that alone, would take a lot of time :) |
| 14:28.08 | SunTsu | Well, not doable by dailies alone ;) |
| 14:28.26 | [SW]Dodge | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/january/goldlimit.jpg |
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| 14:28.41 | Grum | just 7 years of dailies |
| 14:28.54 | Grum | quite doable |
| 14:29.08 | Grum | how long do we have dailies? for a year now? |
| 14:29.25 | Xinhuan | about 7 months |
| 14:29.47 | Grum | 10 chars, 10 months ... missing 14 months :( |
| 14:29.51 | Grum | erm 7 months |
| 14:31.38 | SunTsu | Well, not that much if you take into account possible drops |
| 14:32.16 | [SW]Dodge | he said he got this money primary by JCing and good AH deals |
| 14:32.40 | Xinhuan | i have 84k gold from JC |
| 14:32.45 | Xinhuan | my guildie has 92k gold from JC |
| 14:32.59 | Xinhuan | another jc i know has 50k or so |
| 14:33.01 | Kivin | From cutting gems and selling them? |
| 14:33.04 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 14:33.08 | [SW]Dodge | my JC cahr is lvl 34 an jc is at 136 xP |
| 14:33.12 | Xinhuan | prospecting mainly |
| 14:33.16 | Xinhuan | is the earner |
| 14:33.26 | Kivin | Prospecting is that much more valuable than just straight smelting? |
| 14:33.34 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:33.42 | [Ammo] | get a blue gem -> insta big profit right there |
| 14:33.44 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 14:33.46 | Kivin | makes me want to drop my 340 enchanter for it |
| 14:33.48 | SunTsu | OK, that's it, my former gatherer now really will skill JC and tayloring ;) |
| 14:33.59 | Xinhuan | your profita are tripled if you can cut the gem you prospected |
| 14:34.04 | [Ammo] | my main is JC Enchanter |
| 14:34.10 | [Ammo] | alt provides the herpes and ores |
| 14:34.12 | Xinhuan | and its doubled again if you can DE the rings into enchanting mats |
| 14:34.25 | Xinhuan | typical daily income for me is ~1000g a day |
| 14:34.28 | SunTsu | [Ammo]: The herps? ;) |
| 14:34.32 | [Ammo] | herbs :p |
| 14:34.36 | Xinhuan | i dont' even need an alt ;d |
| 14:34.39 | Xinhuan | just JC/Ench |
| 14:34.39 | Kivin | Xinhuan: But that must be an assload of mining |
| 14:34.45 | Xinhuan | i buy the ore |
| 14:34.46 | Xinhuan | from AH |
| 14:34.48 | Xinhuan | 25g a stack |
| 14:34.50 | Xinhuan | to prospect |
| 14:34.55 | Xinhuan | buy 50 stacks a day |
| 14:35.03 | Xinhuan | i've prospected 140k ore since patch 2.1 |
| 14:35.12 | [Ammo] | I don't have the cash yet to buy and prospect |
| 14:35.21 | Xinhuan | so i don't even mine |
| 14:35.23 | SunTsu | I can't even get myself to scan AH daily *g* |
| 14:35.41 | [Ammo] | I generally mine for 4 hours in the weekend and use the rest of the week to unload it slowly on the AH |
| 14:35.45 | Kivin | the patterns are so expensive that i can't imagine startup |
| 14:35.58 | Xinhuan | startup about 5k to get most decent recipes |
| 14:36.06 | [Ammo] | I've made enough profit just levelling it that I bought 4 blue patterns so far |
| 14:36.14 | [Ammo] | and still at more cash than what I started with |
| 14:36.19 | Xinhuan | then the green gems you get |
| 14:36.20 | [Ammo] | just need an elune pattern now |
| 14:36.22 | Xinhuan | buy fel iron bars |
| 14:36.29 | Xinhuan | and make the lvl 65 rings |
| 14:36.31 | Xinhuan | and DE those |
| 14:36.34 | Xinhuan | into dust/GPEs |
| 14:36.39 | Xinhuan | doubles profit again |
| 14:36.43 | [Ammo] | not all green gems can be made into rings |
| 14:36.50 | Xinhuan | yeah the orange/purple ones you can't |
| 14:36.59 | SunTsu | grabs even |
| 14:37.00 | Xinhuan | but you can put up the purple ones on the AH in bunches of 3s |
| 14:37.07 | Xinhuan | for transmuters to buy |
| 14:37.20 | Xinhuan | a lot of transmuters transute earthstorm meta daily as its a good profit |
| 14:37.32 | Xinhuan | so they buy bunches of 3 yellow/purple/green gems |
| 14:37.38 | Xinhuan | like 6g for 3 |
| 14:37.46 | Xinhuan | depending on your market rate |
| 14:38.00 | Kivin | uncommon quality rocks are pretty much worthless on my server |
| 14:38.11 | Kivin | it's more profitable to vendor them |
| 14:38.19 | Xinhuan | theya ren't worth a lot that's why you make RINGS with them to DE |
| 14:38.22 | Xinhuan | into enchanting mats |
| 14:39.16 | Grum | [15:36:29] <Xinhuan> and make the lvl 65 rings |
| 14:39.17 | Grum | [15:36:31] <Xinhuan> and DE those |
| 14:39.18 | Grum | that works? |
| 14:39.27 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:39.32 | Kivin | Alokie: I don't know what the problem is. i'm not familiar enough with the code and the apis to give you must help |
| 14:39.34 | Grum | O.o |
| 14:39.37 | Xinhuan | your prospecting profit doubles just doing that |
| 14:39.42 | Grum | what recipies do you call 'worthwhile' ? |
| 14:39.50 | Xinhuan | things that ppl buy |
| 14:39.53 | Grum | 12sta/9spelldmg/9heal+2mp5 ? |
| 14:39.59 | Grum | what do people buy? :) |
| 14:40.01 | kadrahil | 8 agi |
| 14:40.04 | Xinhuan | runed, solid, potent, vieled, glowing, royal, bold, |
| 14:40.06 | kadrahil | 10 crit |
| 14:40.08 | Xinhuan | just about anything basically |
| 14:40.09 | Alokie | no problem, thanks for your effort Kivin :> |
| 14:40.16 | Wobin | Xinhuan: How does that double your prospecting? |
| 14:40.18 | Xinhuan | except 8 parry, 8 dodge, 8 spirit |
| 14:40.29 | Xinhuan | because vendoring the green gems gives you 25s each |
| 14:40.32 | SleepyKivin | Wobin: I suspect that disenchanted dust is more valuable than the gems |
| 14:40.39 | Xinhuan | buying fel iron bar + 2 gems = DE into 3 dust ot 3 LPE |
| 14:40.43 | Xinhuan | or* |
| 14:40.54 | Xinhuan | 3 LPE = 6-8g |
| 14:40.58 | Xinhuan | 3 dust = 4g |
| 14:41.05 | Xinhuan | 1 fel iron bar = 1g |
| 14:41.12 | Wobin | ah |
| 14:41.20 | Wobin | ie prospecting isn't worth it? =) |
| 14:41.35 | Xinhuan | you get the green gems from prospecting |
| 14:41.43 | Grum | Xinhuan: but you cant really use orange / purple tiny gems right? |
| 14:41.56 | Xinhuan | refer to what i said above about putting them up on AH in bunches of 3s |
| 14:42.37 | Wobin | hehe Xin, you need to write a guide =) |
| 14:42.44 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 14:42.52 | Xinhuan | i'm ok with sharing this info where there's almost no one on my server here ;d |
| 14:42.59 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:43.20 | Grum | so do you also buy cheap raw gems? |
| 14:43.52 | Zhinjio | the gem market on my server has gone to absolute shit recently |
| 14:44.06 | Grum | for example, green ones (blue qual) are 5g atm :P |
| 14:44.10 | Grum | and then you are lucky |
| 14:44.25 | Zhinjio | Talasite is the cheapest gem, and doesn't really make you any money |
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| 14:44.45 | Grum | it does when you make the pvpgem from it btw, those go for 13-14g |
| 14:44.53 | Grum | sta/res |
| 14:44.56 | Zhinjio | meh.... but its not 60g |
| 14:45.09 | Zhinjio | which is where living rubies/noble topaz sits normally |
| 14:45.20 | [Ammo] | they're 30g on my server |
| 14:45.35 | Zhinjio | yeah, obviously this is going to vary widely per server. |
| 14:45.41 | Zhinjio | and how dumb people are |
| 14:45.50 | Wobin | I've just started JC on my lvl 10 hunter =) |
| 14:46.00 | Grum | what prices are the cut red/blue gems at @ your server Xinhuan ? |
| 14:46.07 | Matrix110 | well [Ammo] our server is generally expensive :P |
| 14:46.10 | Xinhuan | all rare cuts are 3g |
| 14:46.14 | Xinhuan | as the service charge |
| 14:46.14 | Zhinjio | I generally ... hmm, just about double my money prospecting. |
| 14:46.15 | Xinhuan | 5g for meta |
| 14:46.18 | Xinhuan | 10g for epic |
| 14:46.23 | Hjalte | Is the AV lag BAD in all battlegroups? |
| 14:46.30 | Grum | how much for the gem+cutting itself? when you sell it? |
| 14:46.49 | Xinhuan | atm |
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| 14:46.55 | Xinhuan | living rubys go for ~50g |
| 14:46.58 | Xinhuan | solids about 40g |
| 14:47.10 | Grum | and you pay upto 25g for a stack of ore? |
| 14:47.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:47.23 | Grum | how much for feliron bars? 17-18g a stack? |
| 14:47.31 | Xinhuan | 10g |
| 14:47.36 | Xinhuan | wait |
| 14:47.39 | Xinhuan | bars is 20g |
| 14:47.59 | Grum | dusts sell for? and GPE's? |
| 14:47.59 | Pkekyo| | bwahahah, the norwegian public school system is bloody useless :) |
| 14:48.08 | Xinhuan | 1.3g each dust |
| 14:48.14 | Xinhuan | GPE 7-10g depending on week of the day |
| 14:48.20 | Xinhuan | higher on tues-wed, lower on sun/mon |
| 14:48.29 | Mjrn | how so pkekyol? |
| 14:49.11 | Matrix110 | Living Rubys are 80-100g here :P |
| 14:49.24 | Mjrn | <.<. |
| 14:49.31 | Mjrn | low pop server? |
| 14:49.34 | Zhinjio | adam.powder is completely useless on my server now. I vendor it. |
| 14:49.42 | Xinhuan | everyone vendors that |
| 14:49.51 | Xinhuan | nothing uses the powder apart from some resist gear for hydross |
| 14:49.54 | Zhinjio | well, there's the rub... low pop server == fewer people needing your product. |
| 14:50.14 | Zhinjio | its used for making mercurial adamantite as well |
| 14:50.26 | Xinhuan | yeah but nobody uses those either |
| 14:50.32 | Zhinjio | yeah, rarely |
| 14:50.39 | [Ammo] | it's all vendortrash |
| 14:50.44 | [Ammo] | if you need it you can get some quite fast |
| 14:50.46 | Zhinjio | sad, really... there should be some jewelry recipes that are actually worth a damn. |
| 14:50.50 | Zhinjio | Indeed. |
| 14:51.24 | Mjrn | I still post ad. powder for rhode who are skilling up, but I don't count on it |
| 14:51.31 | Mjrn | those* |
| 14:51.36 | Grum | blue => 12sta, red => 9spelldmg/8agi, orange => 4crit+5dmg/4hit+5dmg, purple => 6sta+6dmg/9heal+2mp5 .. what do you make from yellow/green ones? |
| 14:51.59 | Xinhuan | briliant (8 int), great (8 hit) |
| 14:52.02 | Xinhuan | mystic (8 res) |
| 14:52.06 | Xinhuan | rigid (8 melee hit) |
| 14:52.10 | Xinhuan | smooth (8 crit) |
| 14:52.15 | Xinhuan | thick (8 def) |
| 14:52.19 | Xinhuan | and one more |
| 14:52.39 | Xinhuan | gleaming (8 spellcrit) |
| 14:52.41 | Xinhuan | all 7 of them sell |
| 14:52.47 | Xinhuan | ~30g each |
| 14:53.01 | Grum | which one was green? :P |
| 14:53.06 | Xinhuan | talasite |
| 14:53.10 | Xinhuan | those are 15g or so |
| 14:53.15 | Xinhuan | radiant doesn't sell |
| 14:53.16 | Osstia | I like the resil/stam talasite |
| 14:53.20 | Grum | yeah same |
| 14:53.22 | Xinhuan | steady and jagged does |
| 14:53.30 | Xinhuan | dazzling is ok |
| 14:53.47 | Grum | Dazzling Talasite should as well |
| 14:53.56 | Grum | problem is - talasite itself is 4g a gem a tm |
| 14:54.07 | Xinhuan | never sell an uncut gem |
| 14:54.08 | Grum | so people refuse to pay more than 7 >< |
| 14:54.14 | Xinhuan | you're just kiling your own profit |
| 14:54.17 | Xinhuan | always cut and put on AH |
| 14:54.19 | Grum | ofc |
| 14:54.31 | Grum | gf got a yc, has most of the useful cuts already |
| 14:54.47 | Grum | getting 4k gold soonish (for no effort) so will try it out :) |
| 14:55.27 | Osstia | i'm about to lose 5kg |
| 14:55.32 | Zhinjio | my standard outlay for a round of JCing is about 1k gold. I make about 1.5-2k back |
| 14:55.49 | Xinhuan | i once bought out the entire AH of ada ore |
| 14:55.54 | Xinhuan | price jumped by 5g for 2 days |
| 14:55.58 | Xinhuan | per stack |
| 14:56.01 | SunTsu | Osstia: riding(300)? |
| 14:56.01 | Zhinjio | yeah, I've done that several times, actually. |
| 14:56.10 | Osstia | SunTsu: yes, for my 3rd alt |
| 14:56.22 | SunTsu | Osstia: congratulations |
| 14:56.28 | Osstia | i wasn't going to, but i think i have to. seems useless to not do it |
| 14:56.37 | Osstia | but then i am poor again, and i don't like that either |
| 14:56.38 | [SW]Dodge | anyone knows the itemlvl for level 35+ wapons? |
| 14:56.44 | Xinhuan | ilvl 40 |
| 14:56.57 | Xinhuan | min equip lvl is always ilvl-5 |
| 14:57.08 | Xinhuan | except for lvl 60 gear and lvl 70 gear from raiding |
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| 14:58.38 | [SW]Dodge | rhx Xinhuan =) |
| 14:58.52 | [SW]Dodge | thy* |
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| 14:59.40 | Zhinjio | our raid dps finally broke 8k on gruul the other night |
| 14:59.56 | Zhinjio | we still have a bunch of slackers though.. need to get their shit together. |
| 14:59.57 | Grum | that is quite good tbh |
| 15:00.27 | Grum | that means grow 12-14 orso |
| 15:00.30 | Zhinjio | yup, not bad. it was our ... third gruul kill, I think. |
| 15:00.57 | Grum | we did it recently with a BT-farm team, we did 12-13k orso, he died around grpw 7 |
| 15:01.07 | Zhinjio | I wasn't in the run, unfortunately.. I don't know which grow he was on |
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| 15:01.28 | Polarina | On Leaving World Of Warcraft, Then... - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405321193&sid=1 |
| 15:01.40 | Zhinjio | hmm. maybe wws stats will show how many times he cast it... checking |
| 15:02.38 | Zhinjio | nope. |
| 15:03.49 | [Liquidor] | Where do I find TinyTip v3? |
| 15:03.50 | Grum | nah its just an emote |
| 15:04.13 | [Liquidor] | Thrae, ping |
| 15:04.17 | Grum | but with that DPS you can easily kill Voidreaver as well (yes TK Voidreaver) |
| 15:04.24 | Grum | also Lurker in SSC should be a piss |
| 15:04.52 | Grum | VR need 7500dps and lurker will die with 6.5 if you can outlast 18minutes of fighting ;D |
| 15:04.59 | Zhinjio | yeah, after that, they went on to lurker. got 2 attempts in and down to 38% before calling it. noone had done that fight before. |
| 15:05.05 | Zhinjio | well, the raid leader had.... but noone else. |
| 15:05.28 | Codayus | Hm, 38% sounds like "lern2dodge spout" problems. Fixable. |
| 15:05.39 | Codayus | Since if you don't have the DPS for the adds, you'll wipe WAY before then. |
| 15:05.43 | Grum | i hope they cleared the packs above to boil the water? =D |
| 15:06.14 | Codayus | And if you do, you'll win if you just keep everyone alive, and what kills people learning the fight is spout. Oh, and learning that guardians cleave. |
| 15:06.27 | Grum | hehehe, read tactics =D |
| 15:06.29 | Codayus | (I swear, we lose recruit healers to that every time...) |
| 15:06.56 | Grum | dont stand near tanks, dont stand on the half where the MT is on, have the MT swim in the water instead of standing on the ring .. |
| 15:07.15 | Codayus | Fun fight, really...compared to VR. |
| 15:07.23 | SunTsu | I really hate the lurker. I always have problems getting out of the water again |
| 15:07.25 | Grum | have at least a mage or lock on every platform and sheep or fear one add and preferably both |
| 15:07.43 | Codayus | Then again, what isn't... |
| 15:07.52 | Codayus | Grum: Hunters! Sooo much better. |
| 15:08.05 | Grum | in what way? |
| 15:08.16 | Codayus | The ranged adds run to set spots every time, drop a trap in the corner while they run in. |
| 15:08.18 | Grum | you cant dmg while trapped, you can dmg while feared =D |
| 15:08.27 | Codayus | No castign time during combat, so no DPS loss. |
| 15:08.41 | Codayus | You can still fear the add your DPSing. |
| 15:08.42 | Grum | dps is overrated |
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| 15:08.58 | Grum | we did do an insane 21k dps on illidan in phase1 yesterday .. quite mad |
| 15:09.01 | Codayus | But trap >>> sheep for the ranged adds if you have the hunters. |
| 15:09.20 | Grum | nah :P |
| 15:09.55 | Codayus | Easier, faster, safer, more efficient. :-p |
| 15:10.20 | Grum | i can counter all of those ;D .. but i wont :p |
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| 15:11.50 | Codayus | Pft. |
| 15:13.20 | SunTsu | I always hope my guild keeps on going to TK instead of SSC, because I surely will be the MT on Lurker and always end up getting under the ring instead of on top of it |
| 15:13.37 | Codayus | SunTsu: Under? On top? What? |
| 15:13.42 | Codayus | Ah |
| 15:13.49 | Codayus | nevermind, I'm half asleep. |
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| 15:14.33 | Codayus | We wiped once a while back due to a tank who was supposed to be picking up a guardian getting stuck under the ring. |
| 15:14.51 | Grum | that occasionally happens |
| 15:15.21 | Codayus | Next try, he did it AGAIN, but he managed to grab the guardian anyhow, and ended up swimming around with it for a while. >< |
| 15:15.26 | Xinhuan | you can keep them sheeeped |
| 15:15.50 | Codayus | Meh, takes ages that way. |
| 15:16.12 | Codayus | Easier to just kill 'em, if you have tanks that don't get stuck under the platform. I admit, this is sometimes a high bar to pass... |
| 15:16.21 | Xinhuan | you can keep them sheeped until the 2 ranged nagas are dead |
| 15:16.28 | Xinhuan | that means you have less healing to do and less cleaves |
| 15:17.16 | Codayus | Or tanks who confuse left and right. Or tanks that get the platforms confuses. Or... |
| 15:17.24 | Ozguli | http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF094-Freaking_Vortex.gif |
| 15:17.25 | Codayus | Hm, you might have a point after all... |
| 15:18.25 | Codayus | Or, hm, we wiped last week when two tanks got hit by the first spout and died... |
| 15:18.42 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to query an item with itemsync ? |
| 15:18.43 | Codayus | ...you know, sometimes it seems like we have some unusually bad tanks... |
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| 15:20.01 | Karl1297 | how do I make frames click throughable? |
| 15:20.03 | Osstia | We had a few of those back in the lvl 60 raiding days |
| 15:21.43 | Recluse | the tank is only as good as the rest of the team. |
| 15:22.06 | Osstia | not true |
| 15:22.08 | Codayus | Recluse: You haven't met our druid CO. |
| 15:22.12 | Osstia | well, possibly some truth |
| 15:22.29 | Codayus | Well yes, there's a lot of truth there. |
| 15:22.35 | Recluse | lol |
| 15:22.40 | Zhinjio | I've been really enjoying tanking on my pally |
| 15:23.14 | Codayus | But... Some people are not very good at WoW, and it's got nothing to do with the team. |
| 15:23.22 | SunTsu | The rest of the team just has no influence whether the tank is able to jump onto the ring or ends up unter it ;) |
| 15:23.33 | Codayus | Or can tell left from right. |
| 15:23.54 | Recluse | LOL well no, not for those types of things |
| 15:24.32 | SunTsu | But, a good tank should be able to say "OK, I can't do that, so, pick another tank for it" |
| 15:24.37 | Osstia | There are really bad players, and many of them chose a tanking class |
| 15:24.44 | xyu | SunTsu: agreed ^^ |
| 15:24.47 | chiper | there's one tank in our guild that everyone trys not to group with because he's so awful. click casting keyboard turner that takes forever to switch targets |
| 15:25.01 | xyu | In my experiences i've ran into more "noob" priests than any other class |
| 15:25.05 | chiper | but he never asks to raid and he only plays on weekends, so they dont kick him out |
| 15:25.23 | kenlyric | xyu: really? |
| 15:25.27 | Codayus | Hm, the worst player I can recall played a warrior tank, and then rerolled a priest. |
| 15:25.28 | Osstia | I can handle badplayers with a good attitude though |
| 15:25.32 | xyu | yeah, priests and mages. |
| 15:25.34 | Codayus | So, you're ALL right. :-p |
| 15:25.36 | kenlyric | I tend to find people who play priest want to play priest |
| 15:25.49 | chiper | xyu: never had a noob priest, had lots of noob hunters |
| 15:25.59 | Osstia | If someones a nice person, and firendly, I can handle them being terrible |
| 15:25.59 | xyu | I tend to find female players who want to play for social interaction and not skill, play priests |
| 15:26.06 | Recluse | mages are suicidal, locks bite of more than they can chew, and priests love to bubble the tank >.> |
| 15:26.23 | kenlyric | they don't just fall into it, like paladins and warriors and hunters and rogues. |
| 15:26.33 | Codayus | xyu: Mmm, I know a couple, but a couple of the best priests I know are female, and I know a couple bad female rogues...so... |
| 15:26.51 | Codayus | No obvious patterns. |
| 15:26.55 | xyu | Oh i agree, there are a few very very good female priests |
| 15:27.02 | Osstia | I agree with Codayus |
| 15:27.11 | kenlyric | WHATS WRONG WITH TANK BUBBLE |
| 15:27.13 | Osstia | I don't see any real pattern for bad players |
| 15:27.16 | Recluse | as a tank i take all the criticism - mage pom pyro's his sheep and wonders why he has aggro sort of thing. "it's your fault tank!" |
| 15:27.22 | Osstia | nothing at the right time kenlyric |
| 15:27.29 | kenlyric | I see a pattern. |
| 15:27.29 | xyu | Osstia is probably right, just from my experiences though ^^ |
| 15:27.29 | Codayus | It's difficult to distinguish "people who play for social interaction" though. I mean, isn't that what a *LOT* of hardcore raiders play for...in a sense? |
| 15:27.31 | xyu | I haven't met a bad warlock |
| 15:27.35 | chiper | heh, I know a female mage who runs around in healing gear because it looks good. |
| 15:27.41 | chiper | I dont group with her |
| 15:27.46 | Ellipsis | it's hard to be a *bad* warlock |
| 15:27.50 | Ellipsis | the worst you can do is fail at dps |
| 15:27.50 | xyu | lol |
| 15:27.51 | xyu | true :( |
| 15:27.52 | Codayus | chiper: oookay, that's a bit beyond what we get... |
| 15:28.01 | chiper | haha |
| 15:28.02 | kenlyric | I met a warlock once who didn't have a succubus. |
| 15:28.08 | xyu | 70? |
| 15:28.11 | Codayus | Ellipsis: But failing at DPS at a warlock is srs fail! |
| 15:28.12 | kenlyric | yes |
| 15:28.15 | xyu | haha nice |
| 15:28.17 | Yazilliclick | I've seen a LOT of bad hunters and even the alright players likely don't have a clue how to trap properly at 70 :( |
| 15:28.22 | kenlyric | and besides not having the succubus, she did fine dps. |
| 15:28.26 | Ellipsis | Codayus: oh, I agree...but it's not on the same level as pom-pyroing a sheep |
| 15:28.29 | kenlyric | so, you have to work to be a bad warlock. |
| 15:28.32 | Codayus | Alright, true. |
| 15:28.38 | chiper | yeah, I've ran into pallys who didnt have blessings because they didnt want to spend the money on it |
| 15:28.41 | kenlyric | just when we asked her to secude a mob she said "seduce?" |
| 15:28.45 | Osstia | I see a lot of bad 70s, and most of them got "power leveled" and just don't know how to play their class |
| 15:28.48 | SunTsu | I know a great female priest - just that she can't stand the pressure of a raid |
| 15:28.54 | xyu | In my opinion, Hunters are pretty tough to play to the "casual" user. One who isn't interested in min/maxing |
| 15:29.00 | kenlyric | and we're like "yeah, succubus" and she was like "what?" |
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| 15:29.14 | Recluse | lol |
| 15:29.14 | kenlyric | xyu: hunters are incredibly easy. |
| 15:29.18 | Codayus | I met a tank in a pug who broke sheep on purpose. Really - he went out of his way to break and pick up sheeped mobs. |
| 15:29.21 | Codayus | Said it was "safer". |
| 15:29.22 | Ellipsis | not gonna lie - I avoid seduce duty when possible |
| 15:29.23 | kenlyric | you can do it with one macro and a bit of timing |
| 15:29.26 | Ellipsis | but at least I know what it is |
| 15:29.36 | Yazilliclick | I think the problem with hunters is with most classes you learn to use the class when you level, with hunter you don't need to at all and it's still easy. |
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| 15:29.44 | xyu | kenlyric: I know but it's that macro and timing part that casual gamers don't understand. |
| 15:29.47 | Codayus | SunTsu: 2/3 of our raiding spriests are female...both very good. |
| 15:29.55 | kenlyric | well, the hunter class takes a 180 turn past 60. |
| 15:30.05 | chiper | xyu: being a GOOD hunter, yes. chain trapping's hard! |
| 15:30.05 | Recluse | Codayus: that's silly, but imo - 'as long as there isn't a wipe..' |
| 15:30.10 | xyu | Like i know so many hunters who don't even use a shot timer. |
| 15:30.13 | kenlyric | xyu: and, a hunter can survive just fine with just autoshot :) |
| 15:30.15 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Solo pve is easy with a hunter, raiding with a hunter is a different thing, though |
| 15:30.16 | Codayus | God, but bliz messed up with steady shot... |
| 15:30.38 | Codayus | "Hey, aimed shot rotations are kinda weird and finnicky...let's replace it with something WAY harder..." |
| 15:30.43 | Ellipsis | I've 5manned with a surprisingly large number of hunters who knew how to trap, recently |
| 15:30.46 | Ellipsis | it's worrying me |
| 15:30.51 | Ellipsis | next thing you know they'll be dpsing |
| 15:30.57 | kenlyric | Codayus: what? |
| 15:31.02 | kaiden | Codayus, uhm.. how is a steady shot rotation hard? |
| 15:31.03 | kenlyric | stead shot rotation is retarded easy. |
| 15:31.05 | kaiden | it's a fricken macro |
| 15:31.12 | kenlyric | even without a macro. |
| 15:31.16 | Codayus | kaiden: Timing. And I meant without the macro. |
| 15:31.17 | xyu | with a kill command thrown in :D |
| 15:31.18 | Grum | chiper: how is chaintrapping hard? |
| 15:31.20 | kenlyric | stead shot wait. steady shot wait. |
| 15:31.23 | kaiden | even without the macro it's easy |
| 15:31.23 | Codayus | Since the nub hunter won't have it. :-) |
| 15:31.24 | chiper | yeah, I dont use a macro and it's pretty easy |
| 15:31.24 | kaiden | :) |
| 15:31.37 | xyu | Didn't blizzard make it even more possible to have 2 traps up at the same time now? |
| 15:31.43 | xyu | like 2 mobs literally frozen |
| 15:31.44 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Hehe, I had a 5 man group I used to play with, in which hunter and fire mage tried to beat each other in dps... |
| 15:31.49 | Grum | yeah you can xyu |
| 15:31.51 | chiper | grum: if you're not trap spec'd, and the tank doesnt give notice before pulls, it's sure to be a pain in the ass |
| 15:31.57 | Grum | no? |
| 15:31.59 | vithos | xyu: yes, they reverted the change so that you can trap multiple mobs again, just like always |
| 15:32.00 | kaiden | xyu, you could do that before, but now you can literally have 2 traps down on the ground at the same time |
| 15:32.02 | Grum | just put a trap down before you drink |
| 15:32.18 | vithos | no, you can't have two traps down |
| 15:32.24 | xyu | I know you could before, but it was a tad more difficult to accomplish. |
| 15:32.33 | Grum | no it was not |
| 15:32.37 | xyu | and had to have set bonuses i believe? |
| 15:32.39 | Grum | it worked the same before as it does now |
| 15:32.48 | Grum | nope, trap remains for 30s on the floor |
| 15:32.48 | vithos | it's exactly the same as before |
| 15:32.55 | Grum | and works for 20 orso |
| 15:32.59 | vithos | when you drop a 2nd trap with one still existing, the first one disappears |
| 15:33.01 | kenlyric | point is, a mediocre hunter will outdps a mediocre any other class. |
| 15:33.03 | Grum | (or 1 minute orso O.o) |
| 15:33.06 | SunTsu | It was just a matter of skilled trap cd |
| 15:33.11 | SunTsu | or it is |
| 15:33.16 | Codayus | Correctly timing steady shot is harder than aimed shot, and much harder than most other classes mechanics. I'm referrign to doing it without a macro, without a timer bar, and without sufficient experience to be able to do it from the animation/sound effects. |
| 15:33.16 | kenlyric | heck, and afk hunter will out-dps a mediocre other class. |
| 15:33.30 | chiper | ken: lol |
| 15:33.35 | vithos | my pet will outdps bad players. |
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| 15:33.43 | xyu | true story |
| 15:33.49 | kenlyric | right |
| 15:33.50 | Grum | Codayus: its like saying: play wow without brains ... |
| 15:33.55 | kenlyric | half of all hunters is a good player. |
| 15:34.07 | kenlyric | so, they have that advantage. |
| 15:34.15 | xyu | I just think there is a huge difference between a mediocre hunter and a good hunter (pve) |
| 15:34.20 | chiper | I make a better mage than a hunter, but I still know how to play hunter |
| 15:34.22 | xyu | as compared to a mediocre mage and a good mage |
| 15:34.25 | xyu | the scale is smaller |
| 15:34.34 | Yazilliclick | xyu: agreed 100% |
| 15:34.37 | Codayus | Depends what you mean by mediocre. A bad hunter will do stunningly bad DPS. It *is* possible to have hunters who'd do more DPS if they actually DID just go /afk and autoshot. |
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| 15:34.50 | kenlyric | xyu: but making yourself a good hunter is fairly easy. Macro and shot timer and you'd have to be pretty hard-pressed to do bad dps. |
| 15:35.01 | Codayus | Just like you can have spriests who would do more DPS if they *just* spammed Mindflay. I've seen the WWS parses. >< |
| 15:35.10 | Ellipsis | Codayus: so without any effort put in by the person to either find the right tools to play their class, or gain the experience needed to learn how to play they're class, they're going to suck? |
| 15:35.12 | kenlyric | now, trapping and kiting are another story... |
| 15:35.12 | Ellipsis | ZOMG NO WAI |
| 15:35.13 | xyu | doesn't it take some pet manipulation skills? keeping it alive and such? |
| 15:35.16 | xyu | (in a raid setting) |
| 15:35.20 | Zhinjio | our raid leader (hunter) currently has the highest dps in the guild, by almost 20% |
| 15:35.24 | Ellipsis | ew, s/they're/their |
| 15:35.27 | kenlyric | xyu: grid has pet frames now. |
| 15:35.31 | Codayus | Yeah, well... |
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| 15:35.40 | Grum | xyu: it takes skill to keep the pet alive |
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| 15:35.41 | CIA-8 | LibMMButton-1.0 |
| 15:35.41 | CIA-8 | - fixed buggy dragging if the minimap is scaled |
| 15:35.44 | kenlyric | HEAL MA PETS |
| 15:35.44 | xyu | so i hear! definintely will make our healers get that. |
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| 15:35.52 | Grum | kenlyric: it does have it? build in the default Grid? |
| 15:35.57 | kenlyric | yup. |
| 15:36.05 | kenlyric | it was merged from branch sometime this week. |
| 15:36.07 | Grum | Zhinjio: then your locks suck |
| 15:36.11 | Grum | kenlyric: cool shit |
| 15:36.12 | Yazilliclick | nice will need to update grid |
| 15:36.12 | kenlyric | since I don't play anymore I haven't tested it. |
| 15:36.14 | vithos | xyu: illidari council and illidan suck if the tanks don't move the bosses far enough out of the instagib zones |
| 15:36.30 | Codayus | Really? When did grid get that in trunk? |
| 15:36.32 | chiper | heh, even if it is in grid, a lot of healers wont bother to spend mana on pets |
| 15:36.35 | xyu | vithos: i saw a illidan vid with a marks hunter who did awesome job keeping his pet alive |
| 15:36.47 | vithos | i keep my pet alive, it's just a pain in the ass |
| 15:36.48 | xyu | i just felt an average player wouldn't be able to do that (although what's an average player doing fighting illidan) |
| 15:36.49 | Zhinjio | we have ... I think one? raiding lock right now, and yes, he's pretty new and not very well geared up yet |
| 15:36.52 | kenlyric | chiper: and mostly they shouldn't :) |
| 15:37.03 | kenlyric | it's very nice to have in 5 and 10 mans |
| 15:37.08 | Zhinjio | we just had a new raiding lock app though, I think he just joined last night |
| 15:37.09 | vithos | the trick is to realize the timing of the fire zone spawns |
| 15:37.22 | xyu | I think having your pets abilities macroed would help too. |
| 15:37.22 | vithos | it's exactly when you'd be turned around to kill the parasites spawning on someone |
| 15:37.40 | vithos | yeah, definitely want petattack and petrecall keybinds |
| 15:37.43 | chiper | xyu: oh tremendously |
| 15:37.43 | xyu | I just started playing hunter like this week, and I'm still clicking on my pets bar. I need to do something about that :P |
| 15:37.44 | kenlyric | for nothing else than to see that a pet has my prayer of mending. |
| 15:37.53 | kenlyric | xyu: autocast? |
| 15:38.11 | vithos | on phase2 of illidan, i switch macros to make my windserpent cast LB at 20 yards without autoattacking |
| 15:38.13 | vithos | it's pretty hax. |
| 15:38.16 | kenlyric | unless you have a windserpent or a scorpion |
| 15:38.37 | chiper | I have keybinded macros to toggle growl, recall pet, heal pet, and fire off furious growl. and then I mapped the pet attack to my middle mouse button |
| 15:39.24 | vithos | kenlyric: why wouldn't you use autocast on a scorpid? |
| 15:39.30 | kenlyric | autocast on charge can be bad, since it's bugged, but you mostly won't have a boar in raids. |
| 15:39.35 | xyu | i heard www.tkasomething.com is a good hunter resource, I'm gonna read up there so i don't look like a noob hunter :P |
| 15:39.47 | chiper | xyu: petopia as well |
| 15:39.51 | kenlyric | vithos: dunno. I've never had a scorpid. |
| 15:39.56 | chiper | I love petopia |
| 15:40.00 | xyu | chiper: thanks i'll check that out too |
| 15:40.09 | vithos | kenlyric: i have. you use autocast on the poison and don't use bite or whatever the cooldown one is |
| 15:40.17 | vithos | kenlyric: and rank 4 poison rather than rank 5 |
| 15:40.17 | chiper | ok, I need to get my ass to work |
| 15:40.33 | Codayus | In the past, hunters would try to get trinketed scorpid poison stacks, which made timing important. I don't believe that's useful any more. |
| 15:40.44 | Codayus | Maybe. |
| 15:40.47 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 15:40.53 | vithos | i don't think they changed that for the poison |
| 15:40.58 | vithos | but they nerfed the poison's coeffs |
| 15:41.02 | Codayus | I believe they just nerfed the hell out of...yes. |
| 15:41.15 | Grum | scorpids still to terrible aggro |
| 15:41.17 | Grum | its horrid |
| 15:41.40 | xyu | i always thought scorpids = pvp and ravagers or something was pve |
| 15:41.44 | vithos | because the poison has a rampup time for dps |
| 15:41.49 | vithos | you wouldn't want to use it for farming |
| 15:42.02 | Codayus | xyu: For a while, scorpid was the best pve pet due to people rollign trinketed poison stacks. |
| 15:42.06 | vithos | yeah, scorpids are useful in arena now to make dispelling harder |
| 15:42.09 | Pkekyo| | Which room has no door, no windows, no floor and no roof? |
| 15:42.09 | Pkekyo| | [Clue: found in the second area of Outlands] |
| 15:42.13 | Pkekyo| | any idea what the answer is? |
| 15:42.19 | kenlyric | charge > poison |
| 15:42.19 | vithos | they're not really good for raiding anymore since the nerf. before the nerf they were the best for raiding |
| 15:42.45 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: the room of requirement? |
| 15:43.00 | xyu | is there any "best" for raiding now? My RL friend is a hunter and he just got into his first raiding guild. I'm trying to help him out. (I just told him to spec BM, i think it'lll help his dps) |
| 15:43.04 | vithos | now for raiding, there's the wind serpent at #1 (but you have to be willing to deal with the LB behavior--it'll autoattacking/back up to cast if it's on autocast) |
| 15:43.06 | xyu | talking about pets |
| 15:43.10 | vithos | and #2 is ravager |
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| 15:43.28 | vithos | the best resource for learning to hunter in my opinion is cheeky's spreadsheet |
| 15:43.38 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: huh? |
| 15:43.47 | xyu | yeah i have that, but i haven't really entered all the info. I'm not sure how profiles works i'll have to look into it more |
| 15:43.52 | kenlyric | LB avoids armor, but a windserpent has much lower white attacks. |
| 15:44.08 | xyu | vithos: do you know if in cheekeys the profile name has to be certain way? like "Xxx of xserver" |
| 15:44.13 | kenlyric | the math seems to level off, and if you get a magic resistant mob it drops way down. |
| 15:44.15 | vithos | xyu: it can load gear/talents from armory now, it's nice |
| 15:44.31 | vithos | no, the profile name doesn't matter. there's seperate fields for the name/server |
| 15:44.37 | vithos | for the armory scraping |
| 15:44.57 | vithos | kenlyric: magic resistant mob like what? |
| 15:45.17 | kenlyric | I dunno. But if they exist, it must suck! |
| 15:45.33 | vithos | they pretty much don't, except for things that are fully immune to schools |
| 15:45.38 | [SW]Dodge | anyone know at what lvl i can accept the mage quest "Celestial Power"? |
| 15:45.39 | vithos | or bosses that have resist mechanics |
| 15:45.42 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: Mushroom? |
| 15:46.30 | xyu | Where's cheeky's latest spreadsheet version usually located? EJ? |
| 15:46.30 | xyu | just want to make sure i have the latest version |
| 15:46.30 | Wobin | You need a good RAP with windserpents |
| 15:46.30 | vithos | http://www.havoc-guild.us/Cheeky/ |
| 15:46.31 | xyu | vithos: thx |
| 15:46.34 | Codayus | Hm, there's no warlock curse for nature is there... |
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| 15:46.39 | vithos | or yeah, the EJ thread is usually updated within the day of a new version coming out |
| 15:46.48 | kenlyric | I had a windserpent for a while, but the massive DPS boost never appeared. |
| 15:47.00 | kenlyric | because a pet's DPS only gets about 20% from special attacks. |
| 15:47.03 | vithos | kenlyric: were you using LB on autocast? |
| 15:47.17 | kenlyric | vithos: I tried various combinations. |
| 15:47.24 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: what do you mean? |
| 15:47.37 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.40 | Wobin | A mushroom |
| 15:47.43 | kenlyric | and also LB doesn't gain anythingf rom the various hasting abilities in the BM tree, and melee attacks do. |
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| 15:47.58 | Pkekyo| | thanks Wobin! |
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| 15:48.13 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/kenlyric_2007-02_icouldlivehere.jpg |
| 15:48.14 | xyu | Wobin googled it! |
| 15:48.16 | kenlyric | pretty sure it had a floor. |
| 15:48.22 | Wobin | nope =P |
| 15:48.27 | Wobin | Old old riddle |
| 15:48.37 | kenlyric | BUT IT HAS A FLOOR SEE SCREENSHOT! |
| 15:48.46 | Wobin | That's not a floor |
| 15:48.46 | vithos | kenlyric: all of the pet abilities are instants, so yeah, that doesn't really matter |
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| 15:49.10 | kenlyric | vithos: right, but it matters if one pet's white attacks are much smaller than anothers :) |
| 15:49.31 | Pkekyo| | Wobwor1: yeah, but I was trying to solve the riddle in my own language xD |
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| 15:50.04 | xyu | hmm i have office 2007, i'm not sure the armory updater will work with cheeky's spreadsheet qq |
| 15:50.10 | vithos | i think LB's focus/sec makes up for it |
| 15:50.26 | vithos | xyu: i use 2003, dunno |
| 15:51.13 | xyu | There's a compatability mode, i'll try it that way |
| 15:51.47 | xyu | whoa, that is so awesome. |
| 15:51.54 | xyu | Mage spreadsheet needs to be like this :D |
| 15:52.31 | Wobin | LB requires a good crit rate + gfttand BD |
| 15:52.40 | Wobin | to really burn stuff down |
| 15:52.50 | Wobin | and a high RAP |
| 15:53.05 | kenlyric | and you ahve to perfect with your timing. |
| 15:53.47 | kenlyric | and even after all that, I'd like to see the maths. |
| 15:54.28 | vithos | i use a keyboard macro to spam the windserpent macro bind every 100 ms, and the steady macro bind if i'm holding down f1 |
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| 15:55.04 | xyu | Does anyone know what "Ring of Ghoulish Delight" (holiday ring) is a copy of? |
| 15:55.09 | vithos | kenlyric: load up cheeky's sheet and go to the pet calculations page, it's all there |
| 15:55.11 | xyu | (the Atk pwr one) |
| 15:55.14 | kenlyric | could probably macro it into the new steady shot spam macro... |
| 15:55.39 | Hjalte | xyu: Ring off of the last boss in heroic underborg |
| 15:55.41 | Hjalte | underbog* |
| 15:55.49 | xyu | ah |
| 15:55.51 | vithos | kenlyric: yeah, but then if you're repositioning and not dpsing, your pet stops dpsing too |
| 15:55.52 | xyu | eye of the stalker or something |
| 15:55.55 | xyu | that one? |
| 15:56.10 | xyu | n/m yeah it is |
| 15:56.12 | xyu | thanks ^^ |
| 15:57.06 | vithos | someone have a kara geared hunter i can armory scrape with the spreadsheet to see how the WS is at lower gear level? |
| 15:57.27 | kenlyric | how about quest greens for even lower level gear? |
| 15:57.34 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 15:57.35 | vithos | sure |
| 15:57.37 | xyu | vithos: how do i save profile? it says Non-defined profile name cheeky of havoc, but i changed Cheeky of havoc to a different name. |
| 15:57.37 | [Ammo] | vithos: I don't but try .... |
| 15:57.41 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak Pauleh |
| 15:57.45 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Pauleh, Level 70 Dwarf Hunter (41/20/0). 11047 HP; 5863 Mana; 78 mana regen; 6257 Armour; 1405 AP; 239.200 Melee DPS; 25.50% melee crit; 44 melee hit; 1530 RAP; 319.50 Ranged DPS; 30.50% ranged crit; 44 ranged hit; 12.43% dodge; 321 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1915 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yquvcf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33cgju ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:05:09 2008 EST ]] |
| 15:57.45 | Codayus | If you want a "mostly blues" hunter, try Lynxx on US Lightbringer. |
| 15:57.50 | kenlyric | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=Prettiest |
| 15:57.52 | [Ammo] | mostly kara gear afaik |
| 15:58.08 | kenlyric | STILL THE PRETTIEST |
| 15:58.09 | [Ammo] | oh hmm he's in pvp gear |
| 15:58.09 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:58.30 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn Shalfurne |
| 15:58.33 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Shalfurne, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 7642 HP; 5923 Mana; 98 mana regen; 19 mp5; 4908 Armour; 1295 AP; 185.800 Melee DPS; 12.96% melee crit; 114 melee hit; 1399 RAP; 299.90 Ranged DPS; 18.00% ranged crit; 114 ranged hit; 15.54% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1077 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23avw5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cph6k ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:05:57 2008 EST ]] |
| 15:58.45 | Wobin | He's got pretty crappy gear if you want to use him |
| 15:59.01 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 15:59.08 | kenlyric | gdocs won't even open it. |
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| 15:59.24 | vithos | ok, checking with Pauleh's gear |
| 15:59.37 | [Ammo] | pauleh is in mostly pvp gear |
| 15:59.39 | [Ammo] | s1 etc |
| 15:59.42 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 16:00.23 | xyu | My friends hunter is mostly kara and crafted stuff |
| 16:00.29 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Navras |
| 16:00.30 | xyu | !c us sargeras lowgan |
| 16:00.32 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Navras, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 9916 HP; 7408 Mana; 118 mana regen; 6885 Armour; 1864 AP; 272.700 Melee DPS; 23.04% melee crit; 142 melee hit; 1785 RAP; 340.80 Ranged DPS; 29.34% ranged crit; 142 ranged hit; 20.79% dodge; 101 resilience; 55 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1664 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvldvk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/382w62 ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:07:5 |
| 16:00.34 | ThraeBot | xyu: Lowgan, Level 70 Orc Hunter (41/20/0). 8734 HP; 7288 Mana; 106 mana regen; 26 mp5; 5842 Armour; 1610 AP; 223.100 Melee DPS; 12.66% melee crit; 138 melee hit; 1708 RAP; 361.30 Ranged DPS; 18.93% ranged crit; 138 ranged hit; 13.63% dodge;[[ TBR: 997 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cesm5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/346sax ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:07:58 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:00.48 | Codayus | That'd be a well geared T4 hunter with I think 1 T5 level drop. |
| 16:01.32 | Wobin | I should probably do more heroics for gear |
| 16:01.38 | Wobin | meh |
| 16:01.39 | xyu | hm i can't get this spreadsheet to save profile though >< |
| 16:01.51 | vithos | Wind Serpent = 272.69 dps; Ravager = 249.96 dps; Scorpid = 208.83 dps (rank 5 is actually better than rank 4 now); Cat = 244.69 dps |
| 16:01.58 | Osstia | !c us Kel'thuzad osstia |
| 16:02.01 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Osstia, Level 70 Troll Priest (43/18/0). 9951 HP; 10181 Mana; 196 mana regen; 98 mp5; 68 spell crit; 477 +spell dmg; 1217 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 405 resilience;[[ TBR: 1076 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2agjaq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35q9fp ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:09:25 2008 EST ]] |
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| 16:03.08 | vithos | though that's ~30% crit, i'll try us argent dawn Shalfurne |
| 16:03.23 | kenlyric | try 14% crit! ;) |
| 16:03.45 | ShenDK | !c alonsus bohic |
| 16:03.51 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Lynxx |
| 16:03.52 | kenlyric | We were unable to upload this document because of this error: conversion request did not return an error |
| 16:03.53 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Lynxx, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 7515 HP; 6823 Mana; 97 mana regen; 11 mp5; 5474 Armour; 1358 AP; 184.600 Melee DPS; 19.47% melee crit; 142 melee hit; 1331 RAP; 279.80 Ranged DPS; 24.47% ranged crit; 142 ranged hit; 16.43% dodge; 21 resilience;[[ TBR: 986 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/279qta ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sh3xy ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:11:18 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:04.00 | kenlyric | so it must have worked!? |
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| 16:04.07 | vithos | heh, the spreadsheet doesn't support all the gear used by Shalfurne |
| 16:04.16 | ShenDK | !c eu alonsus bohic |
| 16:04.20 | Codayus | Yeah, I think that's mostly blues and a couple epics... |
| 16:04.40 | CIA-8 | 03julith * r58732 10GoodTarget/ (GoodTarget.lua GoodTarget.toc): |
| 16:04.40 | CIA-8 | GoodTarget: |
| 16:04.41 | CIA-8 | - added option to define the visibility of the party targets background |
| 16:05.21 | ThraeBot | ShenDK: Bohic, Level 25 Undead Priest (5/0/11). 819 HP; 1762 Mana; 109 mana regen; 2 spell crit; 29 +spell dmg/heal; 4.74% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 152 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt2kbk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ocagj ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:12:45 2008 EST ]] |
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| 16:05.26 | kagaro | !c us ysera Moonfann |
| 16:05.29 | ThraeBot | kagaro: Moonfann, Level 70 Draenei Priest (14/0/47). 7081 HP; 8850 Mana; 130 mana regen; 39 mp5; 186 spell crit; 56 spell hit; 839 +spell dmg/heal; 313 frost dmg (1152); 364 shadow dmg (1203); 80 fire dmg (919); 5.10% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1568 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ctx26 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ng4kz ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:12:53 2008 EST ]] |
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| 16:06.08 | kagaro | forgot I still had a flask of oure death on |
| 16:06.14 | Stanzilla | !c eu zirkel des cenarius Arcádia |
| 16:06.39 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak ammo |
| 16:06.43 | [Ammo] | that should be without fel armor |
| 16:07.13 | vithos | ok you're right, when the hunter+pet totals around 880 dps, ravager is better than windserpent |
| 16:07.19 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arcádia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:07.19 | Stanzilla | we killed the bot |
| 16:07.21 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Ammo, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/3/17). 10460 HP; 10240 Mana; 107 mana regen; 152 spell crit; 173 spell hit; 1038 +spell dmg/heal; 53 shadow dmg (1091); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1037 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrdeep ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mn4jo ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:14:45 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:07.30 | Stanzilla | !c eu zirkel des cenarius Arc%C3%A1dia |
| 16:07.31 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arc%C3%A1dia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:07.33 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 16:07.36 | Stanzilla | diaf |
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| 16:08.04 | Stanzilla | !c eu Zirkel+des+Cenarius Arc%C3%A1dia |
| 16:08.05 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arc%C3%A1dia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:08.10 | kagaro | you need more crit ammo |
| 16:08.12 | Stanzilla | !c eu Zirkel+des+Cenarius Arcádia |
| 16:08.24 | [Ammo] | kagaro: I don't as affliction actually |
| 16:08.43 | kagaro | ahh |
| 16:08.50 | vithos | !c US Moonrunner Vith |
| 16:09.00 | kagaro | I need more crit blasting sw:d and mind blast |
| 16:09.13 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arcádia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:09.17 | ThraeBot | vithos: Vith, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 9623 HP; 6553 Mana; 113 mana regen; 31 mp5; 7139 Armour; 1948 AP; 289.500 Melee DPS; 23.31% melee crit; 82 melee hit; 1891 RAP; 407.90 Ranged DPS; 29.58% ranged crit; 82 ranged hit; 20.95% dodge; 42 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1400 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f2y5q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pm5o5 ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:16:42 2008 EST ]] |
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| 16:18.18 | Stanzilla | !c EU Zirkel des Cenarius Arc%C3%A1dia |
| 16:18.19 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla: Arcádia, Level 70 Human Priest (13/0/48). 7791 HP; 9360 Mana; 224 mana regen; 78 mp5; 128 spell crit; 138 spell hit; 999 +spell dmg; 929 +heal; 111 frost dmg (1110); 266 shadow dmg (1265); 5.22% dodge;[[ TBR: 1345 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynsvu2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xah4h ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 11:25:24 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:18.21 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 16:19.35 | xyu | Pet data is unattainable from armory isn't it qq |
| 16:19.40 | vithos | yep |
| 16:19.44 | xyu | hmm i'll have to see what his pet has trained. |
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| 16:22.49 | vithos | QQ why doesn't UNIT_HEALTH fire at every percentage |
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| 16:24.23 | vithos | maybe MobHealth3 is better than i thought and blizzard's events just suck :( |
| 16:24.31 | [SW]Dodge | doesnt carto_mining have gold veins? |
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| 16:25.20 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: i'm sure it supports every kind of mining node |
| 16:25.36 | xyu | vithos: any tips on how i should spec his scorpid? right now he has natural armor, scorpid poison, growl, claw, great stam. |
| 16:25.41 | xyu | just doesn't seem that's all that great :D |
| 16:25.53 | Srosh | Gold is rare Iron. |
| 16:26.01 | Srosh | Iirc. |
| 16:26.16 | [SW]Dodge | i cant find gold in any zone. |
| 16:26.28 | xyu | YOu go where there is "iron" |
| 16:26.30 | xyu | and it's a rare spawn |
| 16:26.40 | xyu | Instead of an iron vein it'll be gold, randomly |
| 16:26.48 | vithos | xyu: the big question is whether rank 4 or rank 5 poison is better for your purposes |
| 16:26.57 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r58733 10LootWhore/ (LootWhore.lua LootWhore.toc libs/): LootWhore: For raid members, only whine if they're in the same zone as you. |
| 16:27.04 | Xinhuan | rofl vhaarr |
| 16:27.05 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok thanx |
| 16:27.05 | xyu | vithos: just starting SSC / TK |
| 16:27.10 | vithos | xyu: rank 4 used to be better sustained dps because it has two reapplication chances instead of just one |
| 16:27.13 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: what? :P |
| 16:27.20 | xyu | He's on Vashj and Kael. but have not downed either. |
| 16:27.32 | vhaarr | it's a nice commit! |
| 16:27.32 | vithos | but now that the coeffs have been changed i don't know if rank5 is universally better or not |
| 16:27.40 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 16:27.43 | vithos | just try it in the spreadsheet and see |
| 16:27.49 | xyu | good idea |
| 16:28.11 | vithos | also, the spreadsheet is modeling sustained dps over an infinite period |
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| 16:28.22 | vithos | so it depends what you're using the pet for too |
| 16:29.52 | xyu | hmm it's not changing anything when i change scorpid poison |
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| 16:31.19 | vithos | make sure you have it set to Scorpid, then you pick the rank, then you put the skill in the priority list |
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| 16:31.42 | xyu | ah |
| 16:31.46 | xyu | didn't see the priority list |
| 16:33.10 | vithos | the order matters on that list; it tries to cast them in the order listed. i guess the limiting factors are focus, gcd, and ability cooldown |
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| 16:36.27 | Xinhuan | so in line 29 |
| 16:36.32 | Xinhuan | mt |
| 16:36.44 | vithos | one thing to keep in mind is that the spreadsheet is /mostly/ not a simulation; it's a collection of mathematical models |
| 16:37.11 | Gnarfoz | reporting people afk in BGs is a protected function, right? |
| 16:37.17 | Gnarfoz | or does it just require a hardware event |
| 16:37.41 | vithos | i think there's addons that do it automatically. which is a bad idea now that blizzard is actually taking action based on it |
| 16:40.05 | SNiLD | what's bad about going afk in the bg? |
| 16:41.54 | vithos | it disadvantages the people actually playing? |
| 16:42.32 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58734 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: udpated rare map for missing ooze covered mithril |
| 16:43.29 | SNiLD | in an 30 hour fight? :D |
| 16:45.20 | vithos | do you not think it's wrong, or not care that it's wrong? |
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| 16:46.00 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r58735 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Added TK trash, hopefully it's all correct. Someone please help me populate the database with more BT/Hyjal trash and heroic mobs. |
| 16:47.22 | SNiLD | i think it's fair game to go and eat during a, lets say 8 hour, fight |
| 16:47.48 | CIA-8 | 03zerofire * r58736 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/zBar2.lua): |
| 16:47.48 | CIA-8 | cyCircled: |
| 16:47.48 | CIA-8 | - Add zBar2 plugin |
| 16:48.03 | vithos | the only way a battleground can last 8 hours is if everyone's afk, so that's kind of circular logic |
| 16:49.26 | Srosh | It could be possible in WSG. |
| 16:51.22 | Srosh | That's the only BG left, that's not time limited per se. |
| 16:51.48 | vithos | if it were that even a match (i have been in a 1.5hr premade vs premade WSG lately), going afk could easily result in your side losing |
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| 16:52.43 | vithos | and anyway, this argument is pointless, because blizzard is suspending accounts for non-participation in battlegrounds |
| 16:52.47 | Ozguli | I saw a 6 hour AV |
| 16:52.57 | Ozguli | before 2.3 |
| 16:53.13 | SunTsu | vithos: That's quite harsh |
| 16:53.15 | Ozguli | lvl 60 one |
| 16:53.37 | Ozguli | SunTsu it's against the EULA |
| 16:53.57 | Ozguli | so blizzard can do whatever it wants |
| 16:54.10 | SunTsu | I hope they will not suspend accounts for leaving a battle ground early - well, reconsidering, maybe I do hope they do |
| 16:54.44 | SunTsu | Ozguli: Sure they can - and I can say my opinion on what they do ;) |
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| 16:54.58 | cncfanatics | hi peeps |
| 16:55.08 | Osstia | !c us Kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 16:55.11 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Shaytan, Level 70 Undead Rogue (0/31/30). 10944 HP; 1552 AP; 353.400 Melee DPS; 20.00% melee crit; 141 melee hit; 24.43% dodge; 271 resilience;[[ TBR: 1494 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw8vet ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oxv2o ][ Updated: Fri Jan 18 12:02:35 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:55.11 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.13 | cncfanatics | ~seen kergoth |
| 16:55.16 | purl | kergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge #oe #norganna #wowace #elinux. Has said a total of 414 messages. Is idling for 32m 35s, last said: 'Wally: afaik there is no market price stat module, market price is an average of the stat modules.'. |
| 16:55.23 | cncfanatics | kergoth, ping |
| 16:56.31 | kergoth | cncfanatics: pong |
| 16:57.01 | vithos | i don't think there's honestly people AFKing battlegrounds because they don't realize it degrades everyone else's experience. i think people AFK battlegrounds because they don't care and they want something for nothing |
| 16:57.06 | SunTsu | vithos: I just remembered that somebody here said that he was reporting everybody as afk in the beginning of a bg... |
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| 16:57.31 | cncfanatics | kergoth, you were the author of AceOO right ? |
| 16:57.47 | vithos | it's not automatic suspension, it's just if you get reported a large number of times they'll take a look at the logs |
| 16:58.03 | vithos | i don't know what the logs store; i'm not a blizzard employee |
| 16:58.34 | vithos | but they've said it's not automatic action, but rather that they investigate it |
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| 16:59.07 | |Pixel| | automatic suspention isn't possible in europe at least |
| 16:59.36 | Adys | dont see why it would be possible in the US either |
| 16:59.36 | |Pixel| | but is allowed in the US; now I don't think it would be enabled for that |
| 16:59.38 | cncfanatics | kergoth ? |
| 16:59.48 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 16:59.59 | kergoth | cncfanatics: yep |
| 17:00.13 | vithos | anybody know how the limiting of event firing works, specifically UNIT_HEALTH not firing at every percentage even with extremely granular damage being done? |
| 17:00.30 | cncfanatics | kergoth: I'm working on an OO library, would you mind commenting it then ? |
| 17:00.36 | |Pixel| | Adys: laws are not the same :P |
| 17:00.37 | kergoth | sure |
| 17:00.43 | |Pixel| | europe are more protective with customers |
| 17:00.44 | kergoth | i may be a bit rusty, but i'll see if theres anything obvious |
| 17:00.49 | Adys | oh |
| 17:01.01 | chiper | SunTsu: leaving a BG early isnt a problem, the system just brings in a replacement. it's the people who sit there and do nothing, taking up spaces that could be used to actual players, that they're suspending and penalizing |
| 17:01.06 | cncfanatics | kergoth: also wondering what else there is left to add |
| 17:01.15 | cncfanatics | here's the link: http://www.pastebin.ca/859105 |
| 17:01.51 | |Pixel| | Adys: ce qui arrange bien les gold farmers européens, je dois le dire |
| 17:02.00 | Adys | lol |
| 17:02.13 | Adys | y'a pas d'erreurs aux us? :/ |
| 17:02.17 | Adys | drama ftl~ |
| 17:02.17 | [Ammo] | I was about to type something that is typed on our guild chat often |
| 17:02.19 | SunTsu | chiper: I quite understood that, I was just being sarcastic because they like always punished leaving a BG early - So I just exaggerated that a little bit |
| 17:02.31 | [Ammo] | "english motherfucker, do you speak it!" |
| 17:02.33 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 17:02.51 | [Ammo] | gets spammed on guildchat everytime someone falls back on another language :) |
| 17:02.56 | [Ammo] | or on vent |
| 17:02.58 | kergoth | cncfanatics: whats left to addp robably depends on what you want to use it for and what the scope is. like, is it just the basics, or does it have mixins, interfaces, contracts, etc.. does it support multiple inheritence or single only.. |
| 17:03.00 | [Ammo] | which is even more hilarius |
| 17:03.19 | vithos | !seen elsia |
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| 17:03.45 | cncfanatics | kergoth: currently, interfaces & classes, thats it |
| 17:03.52 | cncfanatics | multiple inheritance for both interfaces & classes |
| 17:04.02 | cncfanatics | I'm aiming to build a pretty general library everyone can use |
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| 17:04.38 | kergoth | multiple inheritence can get ugly fast |
| 17:05.03 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 17:05.07 | cncfanatics | seems pretty solid from my tests |
| 17:05.16 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 17:05.17 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 17:06.17 | cncfanatics | I did read pil yes |
| 17:06.25 | cncfanatics | won't tell me why multiple inheritance gets ugly as far as I know |
| 17:06.27 | Xinhuan | link wasn't meant for you |
| 17:06.36 | Xinhuan | was for me to refer to someone else (to copy) |
| 17:06.55 | kergoth | cncfanatics: the most common example of multiple inheritence issues is.. shit.. give me a second, drawing a blank |
| 17:06.55 | cncfanatics | ah k k |
| 17:07.07 | ramoz | wereHamster: i found a bug in the latest |
| 17:07.27 | ramoz | wereHamster: coolDown - if you die while silenced it wont go away |
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| 17:08.33 | kergoth | one example of the sorts of things you can run into.. if you have an artist class with a :draw() method, and a sharpshooter class that has a draw() method, both which do completely different things, and then they each have a method which calls self:draw(), obviously things might not behave as expected :) you can get around it just by having full control of all the classes you're using, and error if methods in the parent classes overlap, names |
| 17:08.34 | kergoth | pace wise |
| 17:08.43 | kergoth | also to be considered is what the method resolution order is |
| 17:09.18 | cncfanatics | kergoth: currently the first inherited one will be used |
| 17:09.21 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58737 10/branches/GatherMateData/dbgen.rb.txt: GatherMateData: updated parser to handle rare nodes the same was as Collector |
| 17:09.25 | cncfanatics | also mentioned in the comments of the code |
| 17:09.30 | kergoth | i found http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.3/mro/ interesting when i was doing a lua object model with multiple inheritence, back when i was doing like 8 million variants |
| 17:10.56 | cncfanatics | C3 algorithm |
| 17:11.00 | cncfanatics | mind describing it in short ? |
| 17:11.02 | kergoth | http://www.webcom.com/haahr/dylan/linearization-oopsla96.html is the paper discussing it |
| 17:12.03 | cncfanatics | kergoth: currently methods are not overriden at all |
| 17:12.08 | cncfanatics | the method that is declared first will be used |
| 17:12.17 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:12.24 | cncfanatics | which means in practice, if a method A was declared in the class itself, its used |
| 17:12.25 | kergoth | cncfanatics: see the Results: at teh bottom of the c3 paper |
| 17:12.29 | kergoth | summarizes a little |
| 17:12.40 | cncfanatics | if nothing was found in the class itself, it checks each parent in the order they were inherited |
| 17:12.44 | cncfanatics | and takes the first one |
| 17:12.49 | cncfanatics | seemed the most logical to me |
| 17:13.17 | Xinhuan | what happens if your class inherits from X, Y and Z, and Y has a :Draw(), the other 2 doesn't |
| 17:13.26 | Xinhuan | and X is inheritted from A, which has A:Draw() ? |
| 17:13.37 | Xinhuan | assuming you listed them in order X, Y Z |
| 17:13.58 | cncfanatics | the one in X will be used |
| 17:14.01 | Xinhuan | will it inherit A:Draw or Y:Draw? |
| 17:14.07 | kergoth | eventually i gave up on multiple inheritence just because most of what people want it for can be done with either interfaces or mixins |
| 17:14.11 | cncfanatics | X inherited from a draw, so it was first |
| 17:14.32 | cncfanatics | kergoth: I don't do mixins at all imo |
| 17:14.35 | kergoth | so it was simpler not to bother, and donig multiple inheritence slowed down method resolution slightly, since the __Index wasnt a table anymore, it was a lookup function |
| 17:14.39 | cncfanatics | s/imo/atm/ |
| 17:14.42 | kagaro | interfaces better than multi inheritence |
| 17:15.02 | cncfanatics | hmmm, interfaces just say how a class should look likle |
| 17:15.05 | kergoth | java does interfaces but not multiple inheritence right? and c++ does the latter and not the former? |
| 17:15.08 | cncfanatics | what does it have to do with multiple inheritance , |
| 17:15.14 | kagaro | kergoth: yeah |
| 17:15.52 | EvilJohn | correct on the java/c++ question |
| 17:15.56 | kergoth | usually multiple inheritence is either to 1) control/identify what the class looks like, so functions operating against them can check it, or 2) to pull in various bits of functionality from various places (mixins) |
| 17:16.04 | EvilJohn | I never missed not having multiple inheritance |
| 17:16.07 | kergoth | as far as i was able to determine, anyway |
| 17:16.07 | cncfanatics | btw kergoth, how's the code ? and what does it still miss ? |
| 17:16.11 | kagaro | better approach for the contract and casting |
| 17:16.13 | cncfanatics | have only started working on it yesterday |
| 17:16.22 | kergoth | i'm trying to wake up, give me a few |
| 17:16.24 | kergoth | just got to work :P |
| 17:16.25 | cncfanatics | and my OO knowledge is a bit limited tbh |
| 17:16.52 | kergoth | i had fun working on it, i knew little about oo too, implementing an object model is a good learning experience |
| 17:17.16 | cncfanatics | thats one of the reasons I want to do it kergoth :) I need some help though :p |
| 17:17.21 | cncfanatics | first I want to be sure my code is good heh |
| 17:17.36 | EvilJohn | two a person new to object design I would give this advice |
| 17:17.45 | EvilJohn | has-a is more important than is-a |
| 17:17.57 | kagaro | kergoth: best thing about interfacing, replacement of the impl is much easier to refactor and promote loose coupling |
| 17:18.09 | EvilJohn | by that I mean objection design by composition is far more useful than object design by inheritance |
| 17:19.00 | vithos | does lua have something like expr ? ifso : otherwise and what's that called anyway? |
| 17:19.06 | EvilJohn | it would seem a self evident point, but doing this stuff for as long as I've had, i still runinto friction about it |
| 17:19.09 | cncfanatics | vithos: thats php ... |
| 17:19.33 | EvilJohn | "expr ? ifso : otherwise and what's that called anyway?" that's called poor readability |
| 17:19.52 | kergoth | vithos: no, it doesnt. sometimes you can get the job done with 'a and b or c', but its not the same, because in that case c is conditonal on both a and b, not just a. |
| 17:19.54 | cncfanatics | EvilJohn, see what I just said, php :) |
| 17:19.56 | EvilJohn | or in design terms, a missed chance for polymorphism |
| 17:20.19 | vithos | i've never used php, but okay :P |
| 17:20.32 | EvilJohn | not a fan of the ? operator |
| 17:20.35 | cncfanatics | same |
| 17:20.41 | cncfanatics | just a block of ifs does it better :p |
| 17:20.42 | kergoth | i'm an embedded guy, use c mostly, kernel and userspace... so my opportunities for use of OO in real world projects are slim |
| 17:20.46 | kergoth | did some qt coding a while back |
| 17:21.20 | Kemayo | To be fair, the ternary operator is very useful, and I find it to be more readable than very verbose if-else statements. |
| 17:21.44 | cncfanatics | kergoth: I usualy like having basic OO |
| 17:21.50 | cncfanatics | things like flexbar would just be a hell without it |
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| 17:22.16 | vithos | ah yes, that's what it's called. i like using the ? operator in building strings and some things |
| 17:22.39 | kergoth | yeah, it can certainly be helpful, i just wish i had more chances to use it in real worl dprojects, so less of my understanding would be purely theoretical. maybe i should start a project :) |
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| 17:22.50 | cncfanatics | kergoth: any comments on my code yet ? :) |
| 17:22.50 | EvilJohn | hm |
| 17:23.05 | kergoth | i'm waiting for the caffeine to kick in |
| 17:23.06 | EvilJohn | the last time I worked embedded, i think it was the borland c++ dos complier... |
| 17:23.08 | cncfanatics | I have the functionality I need tbh, but I do want a little more generic OO support |
| 17:23.23 | kergoth | i was up till 4:30am and got up at 9:30am, and i'm not as young as i used to be :P |
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| 17:23.40 | cncfanatics | haha |
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| 17:24.19 | kergoth | stupid too, the rare pet i wanted had spawned, but i was 1.5 levels too low to get him.. so i stayed up till i hit level 49 and went to tame him |
| 17:24.22 | kergoth | at 4am.. |
| 17:24.27 | kergoth | and the fucker wasnt there anymore |
| 17:24.32 | kergoth | wake up this morning, log on, he's right there. |
| 17:24.35 | kergoth | thatll teach me not to go to bed |
| 17:24.51 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 17:25.36 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58738 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Possibly stop a nil error from occurring, although it should never happen in the first place. |
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| 17:27.32 | Xinhuan | ~wau |
| 17:27.33 | purl | from memory, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 17:27.35 | Xinhuan | ~wau2 |
| 17:27.36 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:28.59 | cncfanatics | that discription for wau sucks |
| 17:29.00 | cncfanatics | hard |
| 17:29.07 | wereHamster | ramoz, interesting.. |
| 17:30.34 | wereHamster | ramoz, you sure the bug is new? or was it also in earlier versions? |
| 17:31.05 | cncfanatics | so kergoth: think there is anything that I absolutely have to add ? or am I good to go ? |
| 17:34.42 | ramoz | wereHamster: im not sure cause it hasnt been working for me for a while, so i deleted my SV files and just got it back earlier today |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r58739 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-8 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-8 | - Use a spell cache instead of reading the entire spellbook each time we want to check if a spell exists. |
| 17:34.54 | CIA-8 | - Warlock: Hellfire Effect -> Hellfire. |
| 17:35.02 | ramoz | wereHamster: but i think i had a cooldown on a shadow spell, got shadow school locked and then died |
| 17:35.15 | ramoz | wereHamster: then it didnt go away |
| 17:35.54 | ramoz | the whole bar who filled my screen |
| 17:36.12 | wereHamster | I didn't change anything on the cooldown detection code, so it must be an old bug.. |
| 17:36.51 | ramoz | ok, well its the first time i've got several icons on the same bar (?) |
| 17:37.57 | ramoz | tbh im not sure, cause i recently started using it again, after you removed the minimap icon :P |
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| 17:45.10 | Funkeh` | lol some dumbass twat advertising on wowace |
| 17:45.14 | Funkeh` | hi /ban |
| 17:50.09 | CIA-8 | 03phyber * r58740 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: |
| 17:50.09 | CIA-8 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 17:50.09 | CIA-8 | - Remove some not required functions and commented out code. |
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| 17:57.00 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, two mobs are holding me hostage! |
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| 17:57.50 | phyber | sorry, you'll have to wipe. guild policy. we don't negociate with mobs. |
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| 18:01.37 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Mind control and you resetted with them? ;) |
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| 18:03.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm, some addon is making my UI flicker |
| 18:03.25 | cncfanatics | weird |
| 18:03.35 | kenlyric | flickr |
| 18:04.07 | kenlyric | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgtnM4IdTI |
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| 18:05.09 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: nah, I'm stuck inside a tower, can't get past the horde of mobs |
| 18:07.17 | cncfanatics | grrr, some addon is fucking my Ui |
| 18:07.21 | cncfanatics | and didn't install any addons since week |
| 18:07.23 | cncfanatics | weeks* |
| 18:08.07 | SunTsu | http://florianjensen.com/2008/01/17/aol-adopting-xmpp-aka-jabber/ |
| 18:08.20 | SunTsu | Great news, IMO, even if OT ;) |
| 18:08.52 | cncfanatics | I can already add msn & aim contacts in pidgin ? |
| 18:10.28 | cncfanatics | does wau2 work on linux these days ? |
| 18:10.50 | cncfanatics | ~wau2 |
| 18:10.50 | purl | well, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 18:10.53 | dre^ | what do you think of an aim / jabber client that drops incomming messages into a data file somewhere within the wow folder... scraped / picked up by a mod, then back in the other direction. WoW <--> AIM. |
| 18:11.03 | kagaro | Kaelten: ping |
| 18:11.12 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 18:11.21 | kagaro | Did you et my forum mail? |
| 18:11.37 | cncfanatics | dre^ wouldn't work without reloading the ui each time |
| 18:11.44 | cncfanatics | mods can't read files |
| 18:11.53 | dre^ | I see |
| 18:12.02 | Kaelten | about the jira project? |
| 18:12.05 | kagaro | yeah |
| 18:12.06 | cncfanatics | if it wasn't I would have adapted my pidgin to dump its log files in the wow folder long ago |
| 18:12.06 | SunTsu | dre^: You just had to reload ui after every message ,) |
| 18:12.17 | dre^ | not even *one* file that's there that just gets appended to? |
| 18:12.26 | cncfanatics | dre^ ofc not |
| 18:12.28 | cncfanatics | would be too easy |
| 18:12.36 | dre^ | heh, *nod* |
| 18:12.37 | SunTsu | dre^: You can read saved variables, that's all |
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| 18:12.45 | SunTsu | and write, of course |
| 18:12.51 | dre^ | but only on reload... |
| 18:12.56 | SunTsu | right |
| 18:13.05 | dre^ | ah well. probably a bad idea anyay :) |
| 18:13.22 | SunTsu | I just prefer another window with a messenger, tbh |
| 18:13.26 | cncfanatics | damn wau2 still doesn't work on linux |
| 18:13.29 | cncfanatics | coders do your god damn work |
| 18:15.14 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Does that mean there is no working updater under linux? |
| 18:15.32 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, kind of yea |
| 18:15.40 | cncfanatics | and I lost my updater script |
| 18:16.33 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Too sad, because I just am setting up FreeBSD in order to finally get rid of Windows for playing |
| 18:16.50 | cncfanatics | SunTsu: I did the same |
| 18:16.54 | cncfanatics | gonna make a new shell script I guess |
| 18:17.50 | NeoTron | hardehar... a particularly annoying and drama causing priest that left our guild in a huffy hissyfit for being mistreated was "asked to leave' her new guild after a few months... for creating too much drama |
| 18:18.01 | kagaro | haha |
| 18:18.27 | NeoTron | she's a annoying drama whoring bitch imho |
| 18:18.43 | SunTsu | NeoTron: Sounds like it's satifying ;) |
| 18:18.48 | NeoTron | so it is poetic justice if you wish. At least she has chicken (literally) |
| 18:19.05 | NeoTron | she usually went afk for 5-10m mid-raids to lock her chicken up every night |
| 18:19.24 | kagaro | Kaelten: thoughts ? |
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| 18:19.52 | Kaelten | ya I can set it up for you no problem. |
| 18:20.24 | kagaro | Thanks |
| 18:21.13 | Fisker- | MAEK MONEYS TIEM |
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| 18:23.46 | cncfanatics | in shell, how do I loop through all files in the current folder again ? |
| 18:23.48 | cncfanatics | been SO long |
| 18:24.04 | phyber | for i in $(something); do whatever; done |
| 18:24.18 | kagaro | *runs from the shell script* |
| 18:24.45 | kagaro | cncfanatics: perl it up :P |
| 18:24.49 | cncfanatics | for i in * do |
| 18:24.53 | cncfanatics | I don't know perl |
| 18:24.54 | cncfanatics | and cba |
| 18:24.56 | NeoTron | I discovered that in zsh you can do: for a in ...; echo "$a" |
| 18:25.03 | NeoTron | no need for do/done in the simplest case :P |
| 18:25.03 | phyber | yeah, for i in *; do wibble; done, will work too., |
| 18:25.15 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: python, or lua works as well |
| 18:25.21 | cncfanatics | I could use lua, hmmm |
| 18:25.31 | cncfanatics | how to run commands from lua ? and loop through folders ? |
| 18:25.35 | Fisker- | Ã…RH YEAH DU SKYLDER MIG TUSIIIIIIIIIIIIND KRONER |
| 18:25.36 | kagaro | python, lua, perl, ruby .. anything but shell |
| 18:25.45 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: parts of the os library that wow stripped I believe. |
| 18:25.50 | SunTsu | Could pose a problem when there are too many files in the local directory so that the command line limits get hit |
| 18:25.51 | phyber | write it in COBOL, imo. |
| 18:25.57 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: for file in `ls .`; do echo $file done |
| 18:26.07 | Pkekyo| | rofl Fisker- |
| 18:26.20 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna go lua |
| 18:26.22 | cncfanatics | os library eh |
| 18:26.31 | cncfanatics | ~pil |
| 18:26.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:26.37 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| people owes me money :( |
| 18:27.10 | kagaro | though for those on a mac, I did find the ruby > applescript with the script bridge on leopard |
| 18:27.24 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: I would prefer find . -maxdepth -exec ... to wildcards |
| 18:27.39 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna go lua anyway |
| 18:27.51 | cncfanatics | but I'm ready to bet I'll have to use os.execute("ls" |
| 18:28.09 | NeoTron | SunTsu: -exec is, typically, highly inefficient |
| 18:28.23 | NeoTron | use -print0 and xargs -0 instead.. |
| 18:28.27 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r58741 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua Data/Rogue.lua Data/Warrior.lua Melee.lua): |
| 18:28.27 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 18:28.27 | CIA-8 | - Added elemental precision ghost hit to frost bolt |
| 18:28.27 | CIA-8 | - Fixed thunder clap to crit for 1.5 and use spell crit |
| 18:28.28 | CIA-8 | - Mayhaps fixed Envenom |
| 18:28.29 | NeoTron | (assuming gnu tools) |
| 18:28.42 | cncfanatics | ok, just give me a god damn command to loop through all files in a folder :p |
| 18:28.45 | cncfanatics | one file per line |
| 18:29.01 | SunTsu | NeoTron: I am aware of that, but writing in shell normally has it's performance issues anyway ;) |
| 18:29.23 | m4rku5 | cncfanatics, for file in `ls /path/to/dir/`; do cmd file done |
| 18:29.24 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| http://youtube.com/watch?v=RfnYJ5TzyOs |
| 18:29.29 | phyber | as if this is some mission critical thing where you even care about performance. |
| 18:29.54 | SunTsu | m4rku5: No. Will cry if there are too many files |
| 18:30.18 | m4rku5 | SunTsu, thats the way everyone does it - its gotta work ;P |
| 18:31.02 | phyber | there has to be thousands for that to happen. :| |
| 18:31.56 | SunTsu | phyber: Not neccessarily. I hit that limit more often than I'd like to admit |
| 18:33.45 | phyber | what size directories are you listing? I honestly don't think that that issue would come into play with an addon updater. |
| 18:35.31 | NivFreak | I'm in the find camp ;) |
| 18:35.36 | phyber | where the updater is probably just going to be a one liner like 'for i in *; do svn up ${i}; done' |
| 18:35.51 | phyber | I'm in the "wrote one in perl ages ago" camp, personally ;) |
| 18:35.57 | NivFreak | just make sure you quote your result :) |
| 18:36.49 | SunTsu | phyber: /tmp for instance. But looking at the several hundred directories in my addon directory I know it is easy to hit the limit |
| 18:37.33 | phyber | not that easy. I have an SVN directory containing over 57,000 revisions. it lists without a problem. I /really/ doubt someone is going to have so many addons :p |
| 18:37.37 | kenlyric | so, the Dragon's of Autumn Twilight movie went direct to DVD? |
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| 18:38.03 | SunTsu | phyber: It lists. Right. Ever did ls *? ;) |
| 18:38.34 | phyber | yup, it worked fine ;) |
| 18:38.37 | SunTsu | phyber: The point is the shell is limit in the number of arguments |
| 18:41.53 | cncfanatics | SunTsu: if you need an updater for linux, I just wrote one |
| 18:42.33 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Great ;) I know tonight when I tried WoW/Wine ;) |
| 18:43.10 | Josh_Borke | phyber: ever mv *? |
| 18:43.21 | cncfanatics | SunTsu: want me to copy paste ? its just a basic shell script |
| 18:43.33 | NeoTron | SunTsu: no reason to make it worse than it has to be :P |
| 18:43.50 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: find <path> -exec <cmd> {} \; ;-) |
| 18:44.15 | phyber | Josh_Borke: nope. I've only ever seen the "too many files" error when i was fixing a very, very broken mail server. |
| 18:44.25 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Would be great |
| 18:44.29 | cncfanatics | crap, my shell script is destructive atm |
| 18:44.36 | cncfanatics | need to add a check to not try to update files not on wowace |
| 18:44.51 | SunTsu | NeoTron: Right, I'm quite of the "better safe than sorry" faction when it comes to scripting |
| 18:44.58 | phyber | and I know the error exists. my point is that nobody is EVER going to get that error writing an addon updater, unless they fuck up big time. |
| 18:45.06 | Josh_Borke | ah, that's completely true |
| 18:45.33 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:45.39 | cncfanatics | now, how do you check if something exists again ? |
| 18:45.41 | cncfanatics | been sooo long |
| 18:45.47 | cncfanatics | also need to check if its a file |
| 18:45.49 | cncfanatics | and if its a folder |
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| 18:46.12 | kergoth | cncfanatics: see 'man test' |
| 18:46.24 | kergoth | 'test' is the same as '[' |
| 18:46.30 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: [ -d "$file" ] |
| 18:46.42 | cncfanatics | if [-d $File ] |
| 18:46.46 | cncfanatics | checks for directories ? |
| 18:47.32 | phyber | you need the space. [ -d $wibble ] |
| 18:47.34 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Which basically tests whether something is a directory. You could do [ -e "$file" && -d "$file" ] if you want to make it really clear, but if something is a directory that normally implies that it exists |
| 18:47.52 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: And don't forget to quote the variable |
| 18:48.11 | SunTsu | er s/&&/-a/ |
| 18:48.34 | cncfanatics | has to be quoted ? |
| 18:49.04 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: "$file" - just in case there are special chars in the filename, just like spaces |
| 18:49.36 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/860717 is correct ? |
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| 18:51.27 | cncfanatics | anyone ? :) |
| 18:51.49 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: As I said, please, quote your variables when using them, having Whitespaces or a semicolon in it could fuck up big time |
| 18:52.06 | cncfanatics | its quoted as far as I can see |
| 18:52.08 | cncfanatics | except in echo |
| 18:52.11 | cncfanatics | which doesn't rly matter |
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| 18:52.36 | NivFreak | btw |
| 18:52.41 | NivFreak | I just use jwowupdater in linux |
| 18:52.42 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:52.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm, not quoted in the pastey |
| 18:52.44 | cncfanatics | pasted old one |
| 18:52.45 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: No ;) if [ -d $File]; |
| 18:52.51 | cncfanatics | its quoted localy |
| 18:52.54 | cncfanatics | all the rest is correct ? |
| 18:53.06 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: nearly done with my script now, way handyer then any updaters |
| 18:53.11 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: You need spaces before ] |
| 18:53.17 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: alright :P |
| 18:53.42 | NivFreak | I still think jwowupdater is the best updater ;) |
| 18:53.46 | NivFreak | and I use it on 3 platforms |
| 18:53.58 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: though, I wouldn't ever use it. I would get hundreds of files everytime I'd run it |
| 18:54.07 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/860750 : that one would be pristine |
| 18:54.17 | cncfanatics | SunTsu: I don't mind personaly |
| 18:54.25 | cncfanatics | grabs the latest version of all addons I got that are on wowace, fine for me |
| 18:55.49 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58742 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: Optimize GatherMate:FindNearbyNode() to return a local iterator closure for speed. Inlined the distance check code for speed. |
| 18:56.19 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: You don't use Altlas/AtlasLoot? |
| 18:56.25 | cncfanatics | no I don't |
| 18:56.26 | SunTsu | Atlas even |
| 18:56.31 | cncfanatics | cartographer is nice enough |
| 18:56.42 | SunTsu | OK, because that'd be quite some megs everytime |
| 18:56.49 | cncfanatics | and even then, this updater will be run only when I got problems with my interface and want to make sure its not cause of some outdated shit |
| 18:56.52 | cncfanatics | (like now) |
| 18:57.19 | SunTsu | So, anyway, it's time for leaving work ;) yay |
| 18:57.44 | Flexom | might be me that's being stupid, but do I need ace3 for Amanuensis? http://ace.pastey.net/80869 |
| 19:01.27 | cncfanatics | looks like it, Tinyboom |
| 19:01.46 | Tinyboom | ye, checked the embedded one |
| 19:01.49 | Tinyboom | hmm |
| 19:02.29 | Tinyboom | so if i add the ace3 libs to an ace3 folder would that do it? don't like embedded:p |
| 19:02.39 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58743 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: Correct GatherMate:Distance() to return the sqrt distance instead. Change GatherMate:NodeDistanceSquared() API to accept a zonename instead of width/height inputs. |
| 19:05.42 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58744 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: adapt Display.lua to the latest changes |
| 19:10.56 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r58745 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: call SetMapToCurrentZone() if the worldmap closes |
| 19:11.59 | cncfanatics | GRRRRRR |
| 19:12.06 | cncfanatics | some addon is fucking my UI up and its irritating lme |
| 19:13.17 | kaiden | cncfanatics, are you sure it's no FB3? :p |
| 19:13.23 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 19:13.27 | cncfanatics | kaiden: the only thing fb3 does is load ace3 atm |
| 19:13.30 | cncfanatics | can't rly be that can it ? :p |
| 19:13.42 | kaiden | god only knows |
| 19:14.01 | Tinyboom | is there any easy way to pull down all the ace3 libs in one go? hate to get them 1 by one.... |
| 19:14.48 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:14.50 | kaiden | cncfanatics, yuo know what i think right? FB3 when all said and done should totally have a pet bar! :) |
| 19:14.51 | Stanzilla | from svn |
| 19:14.56 | kaiden | Stanzilla also agree's with me |
| 19:15.15 | Stanzilla | whatever kaiden says |
| 19:15.30 | Stanzilla | I agree |
| 19:15.54 | cncfanatics | kaiden: it will |
| 19:16.03 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: he says you suck and shld die in a fire |
| 19:16.30 | Stanzilla | yeah that's true |
| 19:16.41 | kaiden | lol |
| 19:18.11 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: svn and me are not the best of friends:p |
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| 19:18.33 | cncfanatics | ok this is just irritating |
| 19:18.50 | cncfanatics | whenever I enter/leave a building my UI disapears complertely |
| 19:18.54 | cncfanatics | then reappears a second later |
| 19:18.58 | cncfanatics | also happens randomly |
| 19:19.03 | cncfanatics | this doesn't happen without addons |
| 19:19.17 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: any tips as to what client I should choose (nab friendly) :p |
| 19:19.27 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta |
| 19:19.31 | Stanzilla | get that whole folder |
| 19:19.41 | Stanzilla | an rename it "Ace3" |
| 19:19.43 | Stanzilla | done |
| 19:19.51 | Tinyboom | thanks m8:) |
| 19:20.05 | durcyn | uh, or you could name it on checkout. i.e. svn co http://svn.wowcae.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta Ace3 |
| 19:20.06 | Stanzilla | np |
| 19:20.23 | NivFreak | is there any way to change which addon profiles you're using in mass? |
| 19:21.02 | durcyn | NivFreak: check out UIGnome |
| 19:21.32 | NivFreak | I see it has lots of documentation |
| 19:21.33 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 19:22.40 | NivFreak | 10 days old eh |
| 19:23.16 | NivFreak | oh |
| 19:23.20 | NivFreak | I remember this discussion |
| 19:23.59 | kergoth | whats UIGnome? |
| 19:25.27 | durcyn | it's supposed to be an aggregate profile manager, i.e. swapping profiles for multiple addons at once |
| 19:25.40 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:25.52 | kergoth | can it inject new defaults, like to supply data for an addon compilation? |
| 19:25.54 | kergoth | cause thatd be nifty |
| 19:25.54 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58746 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: add some checks to OnEnable and some comments to the minimap code |
| 19:26.57 | NivFreak | it's not in the trunk? |
| 19:27.19 | durcyn | branches iirc, you'd have to ask bigzero if it's ready for public consumption |
| 19:27.51 | NivFreak | bigzero: is it ready for public consumption? :) |
| 19:31.19 | Xinhuan | whats the function name to get the name of the mouseover frame grr |
| 19:31.36 | nevcairiel | GetMouseOver()? |
| 19:31.47 | NeoTron | GetMouseoverFrameGrr() |
| 19:31.50 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.51 | Xinhuan | that's a nil functino ~)~ |
| 19:31.53 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 19:31.53 | purl | :/ |
| 19:31.58 | kergoth | GetMouseFocus() or so, iirc |
| 19:32.10 | Xinhuan | ah right |
| 19:32.10 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, focus |
| 19:32.26 | cncfanatics | attempt to call method 'SendPrioritizedCommMessage' (a nil value) |
| 19:32.28 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 19:32.33 | kergoth | silly name, really. 'focus' is used for too many things |
| 19:32.33 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58747 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: more comments and nailed some global variables |
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| 19:34.11 | cncfanatics | visor is bugged |
| 19:34.12 | cncfanatics | wtf ? |
| 19:35.09 | cncfanatics | any alternatives to visor ? |
| 19:35.17 | cncfanatics | its blowing my ui to smithereens for some reasons |
| 19:36.14 | cncfanatics | someone ?? come on |
| 19:36.55 | nevcairiel | use /script and ;SetPoint? |
| 19:38.38 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58748 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Make the right-click pin menu better. Fix errors that Elkano reported. |
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| 19:42.23 | CIA-8 | 03poull * r58749 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 19:42.23 | CIA-8 | PallyPower: |
| 19:42.23 | CIA-8 | - Fixed coloring of class and player buttons showing blue color instead of yellow in some cases. |
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| 19:42.50 | Fusle | hi @ll im a lua nub and i have written an addon but it doesent work. can someone check out the source and explain me what i did wrong? |
| 19:43.21 | cncfanatics | how would an addon manage to make your UI flicker ? this is weird |
| 19:44.19 | cncfanatics | ok, addon conflict, bah |
| 19:44.21 | cncfanatics | this will be painful |
| 19:45.32 | Fusle | http://wowforum.gamona.de/showthread.php?t=100673 plz help me :D |
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| 19:47.49 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan? |
| 19:47.52 | Gagorian | Fusle: What's your problem? |
| 19:48.05 | NeoTron | WTB 3 day reset on BT and Hyjal |
| 19:48.27 | Gagorian | Fusle: I mean except that being terribly coded. |
| 19:49.22 | Fusle | ok gagorian |
| 19:49.27 | Fusle | my problem: |
| 19:49.48 | Fusle | i just want a little addon to combatlog every bossfight |
| 19:50.58 | Hjalte | Fusle, for WWS? It can split it automatically. |
| 19:51.05 | Fusle | yes vor wws |
| 19:51.15 | Fusle | i know that wws split the bossfights |
| 19:51.32 | Fusle | but only if i host the log at the webstats server |
| 19:51.57 | Fusle | when i generate the log on localhost wws dont split |
| 19:52.17 | Hjalte | Fusle, I don't think there is such an addon. It would need to know when you fight a boss which would require some sort of interaction with for example a boss mod addon. |
| 19:53.04 | Fisker- | well closetgnome have boss specific outfits with an addon |
| 19:53.07 | Fisker- | you could poke through that |
| 19:53.55 | Fusle | ok i see ... to write that addon needs a higher skill in lua programming |
| 19:55.13 | cncfanatics | addon conflict found, yaypitbull & visor conflict, or their libraries do |
| 19:56.40 | KarlThePagan | Fusle, write it yourself |
| 19:56.51 | Fusle | that was the plan |
| 19:57.10 | KarlThePagan | actually I'm pretty sure there is such a mod in the ace project which combatlogs at the beginning of boss fights |
| 19:57.48 | Fusle | hmm i didnt found an addon that does |
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| 19:59.45 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58750 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: fix Z_C_N_A event registering |
| 20:00.00 | KarlThePagan | Fusle, looks like TweakHub_CombatLogger is made for that |
| 20:00.11 | KarlThePagan | there are others |
| 20:01.48 | Fusle | thank you |
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| 20:03.14 | KarlThePagan | thanks for "giving back" as the community always has... with attitude! |
| 20:04.24 | nevcairiel | i use LoggerHead for that, tho it starts logging depending on zone, not fight |
| 20:04.38 | KarlThePagan | yea I swear I'm using something connected to bigwigs |
| 20:04.42 | Fusle | clsaver starts logging by zone too |
| 20:04.44 | KarlThePagan | but I probably forgot to turn on that options |
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| 20:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4028095025&sid=1 excuse me blizzard |
| 20:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | but wtf r u doin |
| 20:15.26 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r58751 10Cryolysis2/core/options.lua: |
| 20:15.26 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:15.26 | CIA-8 | - Fixed flying machine icon showing as broom mount icon |
| 20:15.31 | kaway | eating pizza + watching tv? usual stuff i guess |
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| 20:15.56 | sag_ich_nicht | more: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4068006768&sid=1 |
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| 20:19.38 | Hjalte | Is there a threat reset in Al'ar p1 --> p2? |
| 20:19.59 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 20:20.48 | shieldb | Hjalte, no - it'll go straight for whoever was top of threat in phase 1 (usually a warlock) |
| 20:21.08 | shieldb | Al'ar is tauntable though, so it's kind of a minor issue |
| 20:22.10 | genetik- | i just have all the tanks taunt al'ar if he goes after someone to prevent them dying due to taunt resist |
| 20:22.52 | shieldb | if you know who's top of threat from phase 1 |
| 20:23.03 | shieldb | just have them move to somewhere the tanks know about to pick up al'ar |
| 20:23.11 | shieldb | after the pickup folks invis/soul shatter/etc |
| 20:23.29 | shieldb | and they shouldn't be able to catch the tanks, since they just assumed the entirety of the top threat from phase 1 |
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| 20:26.19 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58752 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: cache the zone we're in and update it when we run a full map refresh ( on zone change, login, etc ) |
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| 20:26.48 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58753 10NShakedown/AddonBase.lua: NShakedown: kill virtual on the base addon class. an 'addon' in this doesn't always need its own class, it can be an object with a few methods, saving resources (classes use numerous tables, objects only one). |
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| 20:27.38 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58754 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GaherMate: remvoed header entry that did nothing |
| 20:27.52 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58755 10NShakedown/Addons/Afflicted.lua: NShakedown: Add support for the 'Afflicted' addon. |
| 20:29.29 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58756 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Optimize Display:UpdateWorldMap() by a bit so that it only redraws if necessary. Remove unnecessary P_L_W event registration. |
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| 20:33.38 | Hjalte | shieldb: I just died :( Soulshattered when he spawned again and went for me, but maybe too late. |
| 20:34.11 | NeoTron | best way to handle threat on al'ar |
| 20:34.16 | Xinhuan | [1/19 03:47:41] <[SW]Dodge> Xinhuan? <-- pong |
| 20:34.21 | NeoTron | in phase 1, don't put salvaction on locks |
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| 20:34.26 | NeoTron | let them nuke it out at full threat |
| 20:34.37 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58758 10NShakedown/Addons/RangeDisplay.lua: NShakedown: Add support for the 'RangeDisplay' addon. |
| 20:34.50 | NeoTron | tanks should taunt when they can (timing is important - they can't have aggro when they do the taunt). around 4-5% locks soul shatter |
| 20:35.11 | NeoTron | get salv for phase 2 and no one will be anywhere near the threat ceiling for phase 2 |
| 20:35.46 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58759 10/branches/GatherMate/ (9 files in 8 dirs): GatherMate: dont update the map in OnEnable, wait for P_E_W - GetRealZoneText() seems to return nil before P_E_W |
| 20:35.58 | NeoTron | PEW PEW |
| 20:36.40 | Xinhuan | P_L_W doesn't sounds as nice :( |
| 20:36.49 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58760 10NShakedown/ (Addons/NabuFiveSec.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: Add support for the 'NabuFiveSec' addon. |
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| 20:37.29 | nevcairiel | kergy whats NShakedown? |
| 20:38.18 | bleeter | heya folks, trying to svn co gridstatushealer from anonymous svn, when it gets to the externals it's prompting for uname/pw pair. should it be doing this? |
| 20:38.30 | kergoth | its an addon that shows every addon you have that displays stuff. shows the scroll areas in your combat text, unlocks your various bars, shows test bars in bigwigs and test messages there, etc |
| 20:38.38 | nevcairiel | bleeter: no, someone screwed the externals up :) |
| 20:38.38 | kergoth | so you can see, at a glance, if anything is overlapping |
| 20:38.40 | kergoth | it's handy |
| 20:38.46 | bleeter | (looking at it, it would appear the externals are set to dev. rather than svn.) |
| 20:39.00 | bleeter | nevcairiel: yup, that'd do it ... sorry for my slowness, not enough coffee for the morning yet ;) |
| 20:39.24 | NeoTron | kergoth: what I'd like is a way to fake a raid for perfect raid |
| 20:39.38 | kergoth | heh, same for aguf, the ace3 version has no 'config mode' yet |
| 20:39.40 | kergoth | :\ |
| 20:39.45 | NeoTron | I want to set up my ui around PR but it can't do mock groups and I don't want to configure groups during a raid :P |
| 20:40.11 | nevcairiel | didnt PR had that option at some point? |
| 20:40.18 | nevcairiel | i remember an old version of PR doing that |
| 20:40.34 | cladhaire | it used to, before secure templates. |
| 20:40.44 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 20:40.50 | nevcairiel | been some time since i tried it :) |
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| 20:41.42 | NeoTron | cladhaire: any way to at least fake it? :P don't even need bars, just need boxes of the right size |
| 20:41.51 | cladhaire | no, there isn't. |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58761 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Constants.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: added config item to lod gathermate data |
| 20:42.35 | cladhaire | welcome to secure templates :P |
| 20:42.41 | NeoTron | I guess one solution is to make a box using another addon while in a raid and then move it around outside the raid |
| 20:42.46 | NeoTron | so you get the spacing right |
| 20:42.51 | bleeter | nevcairiel: any suggestions for who to bug to get that external fixed? |
| 20:42.58 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58762 10/branches/GatherMateData/GatherMateData.toc: GatherMateData: changed to LOD |
| 20:43.00 | bleeter | nevcairiel: me being a #wowace noob and all |
| 20:43.12 | NeoTron | cladhaire: one thing that I noticed myself missing btw was raid icons |
| 20:43.23 | cladhaire | its not missing |
| 20:43.24 | cladhaire | its just not there. |
| 20:43.38 | NeoTron | that is why _I_ am missing it |
| 20:44.23 | NeoTron | I didn't mean that I missed how to configure it, just a feature I would like that isn't there :) |
| 20:44.28 | cladhaire | heh |
| 20:44.37 | cladhaire | i have lots of those for praid |
| 20:44.51 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire has lots of features for lots of things |
| 20:45.03 | Josh_Borke | but he fails to check off more than one feature from each list in a month |
| 20:45.12 | cladhaire | i haven't done anythign in a while |
| 20:45.15 | cladhaire | because i hav en't been able to |
| 20:45.17 | cladhaire | *shrgu* |
| 20:45.20 | Josh_Borke | yep |
| 20:45.24 | Josh_Borke | you have this thing called life |
| 20:45.29 | Josh_Borke | it's a bugger, isn't it? |
| 20:45.42 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 20:45.46 | NeoTron | understood I know you're busy with the book(s) and such |
| 20:45.58 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58763 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Align.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: Add support for the 'Align' addon, so you can see its grid when arranging your addons. |
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| 20:46.11 | NeoTron | it really isn't a complaint, just something fun |
| 20:46.19 | Josh_Borke | yea, i had to write paging for WoWLua... |
| 20:46.20 | NeoTron | btw it was amazingly useful to put up archimonde's debuffs to show |
| 20:46.31 | NeoTron | then you can see all the nubs that run into doomfire |
| 20:46.45 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: i |
| 20:46.48 | NeoTron | never seemed to work right in grid, nor does grid "a dot that's colored BLAH" agree with me |
| 20:46.51 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: i used that the other day, lol |
| 20:47.58 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
| 20:48.05 | Josh_Borke | wowlua is <3 |
| 20:48.06 | Tinyboom | any addons using ace3 worth getting just to test? :) |
| 20:48.26 | Josh_Borke | Tinyboom: i use RaidCast, GatherMate, Mapster, FishermansFriend, agUF, SmoothDurability |
| 20:48.35 | Josh_Borke | i wouldn't recommend raidcast |
| 20:48.37 | Josh_Borke | the author is dumb |
| 20:48.41 | kergoth | there's also an ace3 branch of combatdnd |
| 20:48.45 | kergoth | my lil petinstance addon |
| 20:48.54 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:49.43 | NeoTron | so this is not a political question but I'm curious |
| 20:50.00 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth * r58764 10NShakedown/ (Addons/kEnergy.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: Add support for the 'kEnergy' addon. |
| 20:50.03 | NeoTron | if you use ace2, ace3 and rock addons at the same time, do you essentially use 3x the "utility libraries"? |
| 20:50.19 | Tinyboom | probably:p |
| 20:50.20 | Josh_Borke | NeoTron: sure |
| 20:50.20 | NeoTron | or do they somehow share common things between themself |
| 20:50.26 | Josh_Borke | they don't share anything, no |
| 20:50.32 | kergoth | they dont share shit. but what they do isnt exactly resource intensive, so i wouldnt worry |
| 20:50.35 | Fisker- | http://i29.tinypic.com/2lcwuuq.jpg |
| 20:50.38 | Fisker- | fucking epic |
| 20:50.46 | Fisker- | Someone dragged drek out |
| 20:50.53 | NeoTron | kergoth: I don't look forward at having 400 libraries, 3 copies of each ;-) |
| 20:50.56 | Fisker- | and we got a tick on the mines just as the last horde reinforcement ran out :DDD |
| 20:51.03 | NeoTron | (yes it's a bit exaggarated but you get the point :-) |
| 20:51.20 | CIA-8 | 03cladhaire * r58765 10GridStatusHealer/: GridStatusHealer: Fixed externals, they should point to svn.wowace.com not dev.wowace.com |
| 20:51.22 | Josh_Borke | NeoTron: don't worry about it :-D |
| 20:52.19 | Pkekyo| | ~seen thu |
| 20:52.24 | purl | thu <~thu@cs70112175-132.austin.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1067d 15h 18m 47s ago, saying: 'anyone know a good video player that I can get off of aptitude?'. |
| 20:52.24 | Pkekyo| | ~seen thul |
| 20:52.25 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1027 messages. Is idling for 10d 17h 45m 58s, last said: 'wish me luck :-D'. |
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| 20:55.47 | Deviad | Hello |
| 20:56.06 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 20:56.25 | Deviad | I have this problem: when I'm in combat I cannot see either necb bars or antagonist ones. When I'm in spectator in arena or out of combat, if the players are not enemies |
| 20:56.33 | Deviad | I can see what they are casting with necb and shit |
| 20:56.36 | Deviad | why is that? |
| 20:57.02 | Deviad | Do I have to setup my combat log? |
| 20:57.17 | Deviad | I didn't find anything about this matter on wowace wiki |
| 20:57.51 | Deviad | I have quartz t oo |
| 20:57.54 | Deviad | too* |
| 20:58.24 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58766 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: fix the P_E_W/GRZT()/P_L/P_A misery once and for all |
| 20:58.25 | bleeter | nevcairiel: nm, ignore my last post to you. I beat up cladhaire and got him to fix it for me ;) |
| 20:59.01 | nevcairiel | i wasnt paying attention to this channel anyway *shrug :D |
| 20:59.08 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire is a pushover anyway |
| 20:59.27 | bleeter | nevcairiel: :D |
| 21:00.45 | NivFreak | man I hope someone takes over NECB |
| 21:01.04 | NivFreak | I'm not sure I can function without it :) |
| 21:01.27 | Josh_Borke | beladona already did |
| 21:01.53 | NivFreak | oh cool |
| 21:01.56 | NivFreak | horay! |
| 21:02.31 | NivFreak | maybe we'll get trash timers for ZA now too ;) |
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| 21:04.19 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58767 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Config screen now has a cleanup function |
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| 21:09.13 | Sole | damn this sucks |
| 21:09.27 | Sole | my comp crashed while firefox was open, I get on to find out all my firefox settings wiped ;( |
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| 21:12.56 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58768 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Added rare spawn login to cleanup |
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| 21:13.18 | CIA-8 | 03nebelmond * r58769 10Innervator/Innervator.lua: |
| 21:13.18 | CIA-8 | Innervator: |
| 21:13.18 | CIA-8 | - small fixes |
| 21:15.13 | bigzero | ShoppingTooltip1:SetHyperlinkCompareItem(link, 1) and ShoppingTooltip1:GetItem() <--- anyone know why the getitem() would ever return nil? |
| 21:17.12 | Paene | Using AceLocale, what should missing translations be set to? Apparently, setting them to true results in errors. |
| 21:17.19 | bigzero | i don't have to wait for an event to fire to make sure that the tooltip is set, do i? it's all client side, correct? |
| 21:17.27 | Paene | ~wiki AceLocale |
| 21:17.47 | Paene | er |
| 21:17.52 | bigzero | Paene, i've always set it to true and it worked out for me |
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| 21:18.11 | Paene | ~ace AceLocale |
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| 21:18.21 | bigzero | well, actually, i never got errors, but I couldn't test it on the other locale |
| 21:18.26 | Paene | yeah |
| 21:18.44 | Paene | "Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not." is the error someone got |
| 21:18.45 | Paene | well |
| 21:18.47 | Paene | part of it |
| 21:18.59 | bigzero | you can just copy paste the base locale string |
| 21:20.39 | Nargiddley | don't put it in the other locales at all, it will default to the base |
| 21:21.59 | Paene | Nargiddley: would not setting a value, but leaving the original part in the locale file work? |
| 21:22.14 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58770 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Constants.lua Display.lua): GatherMate: Fix kagaro's typo in Constants.lua. Optimize Display:UpdateWorldMap() even further by only changing what is different if forced to redraw in the same zone instead of redrawing the whole zone of nodes |
| 21:22.23 | Paene | so instead of having ["Mount"] = true, just have it as ["Mount"] |
| 21:22.40 | Nargiddley | no |
| 21:22.56 | Paene | so how are other people supposed to know what to translate :-p |
| 21:23.09 | Nargiddley | comment it out or something |
| 21:23.10 | nevcairiel | comment the lines that are not translated yet |
| 21:23.28 | Nargiddley | just having ["Mount"] would set 1 = "Mount" |
| 21:23.29 | Paene | Now why didn't I think of that? |
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| 21:30.12 | Ellipsis | MINE |
| 21:30.15 | Fisker- | NO |
| 21:30.15 | Fisker- | U |
| 21:30.29 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 21:30.46 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r58771 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (5 files): |
| 21:30.46 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:30.46 | CIA-8 | - Commented out lines that were set to true in multiple locale files so that users don't continue to get errors. |
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| 21:32.58 | CIA-8 | 03paene * r58772 10Cryolysis2/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 21:32.58 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:32.58 | CIA-8 | - oops, missed one |
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| 21:45.58 | CIA-8 | 03mallen * r58773 10TradeBar/ (GUITradeBar.xml TradeBar.lua TradeBar.toc): |
| 21:45.58 | CIA-8 | TradeBar: |
| 21:45.58 | CIA-8 | - raised buttonlimit from 10 to 15 |
| 21:46.28 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58774 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Display.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: simplify icon position updating func, fix some drycode errors |
| 21:47.07 | kergoth | there certainly are a lot of profession bars |
| 21:47.19 | kergoth | at least two addons by the name 'tradesbar', then tradebar, and others |
| 21:47.24 | kergoth | kind of amusing |
| 21:47.33 | Josh_Borke | there certainly are a lot of dumb people |
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| 21:47.35 | Josh_Borke | kind of amusing |
| 21:47.51 | Ellipsis | what are they for exactly? |
| 21:47.52 | durcyn | Josh_Borke: the disturbing part is how many of those have svn commit access |
| 21:48.00 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis: procreation |
| 21:48.32 | Ellipsis | mmm |
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| 21:48.36 | Ellipsis | addon secks? |
| 21:52.06 | Fisker- | you saw my EPIC AV Ellipsis? :O |
| 21:53.12 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 21:53.29 | Ellipsis | note: I don't know anything at all about battlegrounds and likely won't get whatever it is you're talking abotu |
| 21:53.33 | Ellipsis | about* |
| 21:54.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:56.54 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58775 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: more tweaks to minimap code, saves alot of distance calculations that had been done twice |
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| 21:58.54 | SleepyKivin | Horde fails at AV. Period. I'm on loss #5 in a row, and we haven't even captured any of stonehearth. |
| 21:59.23 | KarlThePagan | what are alliance doing? defending bunkers or? |
| 21:59.32 | NivFreak | SleepyKivin: what battlegroup? |
| 21:59.38 | Kivin | NivFreak: Whirlwind |
| 21:59.42 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:59.48 | NivFreak | the race finally stopped? |
| 21:59.51 | Kivin | KarlThePagan: Just doing intelligent things; stopping horde zerg and taking frostwolf |
| 22:00.06 | Kivin | NivFreak: still a race. horde just usually gets to stormpike and stops dead |
| 22:00.07 | KarlThePagan | where are they stopping you? |
| 22:00.33 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58776 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: move some vars around |
| 22:00.38 | Kivin | everywhere this round. was epic failure... they recapped SHB, IWB, both the DB bunks, and caused the entire offense to respawn at frostwolf |
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| 22:05.08 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro 07Artwork * r58777 10GatherMate/Fish/fish_circle.tga: GatherMate: updated circle for fishing |
| 22:05.42 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro 07Artwork * r58778 10GatherMate/ (Gas/gas_circle.tga Herb/herb_circle.tga Mine/mine_circle.tga): new circles for gas, herbs, and mines |
| 22:05.52 | kergoth | Artwork, yay |
| 22:06.09 | kagaro | kergoth, the other icons need work for sure |
| 22:09.13 | Silowyi | is their an addon that stores talent specs and can reapply them? |
| 22:09.55 | Ellipsis | Talented |
| 22:10.05 | Silowyi | cool |
| 22:10.22 | kergoth | talented rocks |
| 22:14.58 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58779 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: fix cleanup to not delete all nodes, but keep one .. :) |
| 22:22.07 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58780 10/branches/GatherMateData/GatherMateData.lua: GatherMateData: made this a proper addon so GatherMate can control its import functions and routines |
| 22:22.11 | Silowyi | how do you DELETE a template in Taleneted? |
| 22:22.35 | Silowyi | nvm |
| 22:23.45 | Kivin | Just lost my fifth AV In a row today and eight since last night :( I hate my battlegroup |
| 22:24.36 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58781 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: start the config section for controlled import needs finished |
| 22:27.28 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58782 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Cleanup some code so it makes more sense |
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| 22:32.46 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel * r58783 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: update rich adamantite rare status |
| 22:36.29 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58784 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: Remove unused GatherMate:GetNode() after the previous minimap update code optimization |
| 22:37.16 | NivFreak | is there any way to determine how far you've traveled inside an instance? (since you don't have coords) |
| 22:38.40 | Josh_Borke | NivFreak: yes |
| 22:38.46 | Josh_Borke | NivFreak: use cryect's lib |
| 22:38.58 | NivFreak | how does it work? |
| 22:39.25 | Josh_Borke | you provide it information on sizing and it dooes some voodoo magic involving pinggs |
| 22:39.35 | NivFreak | it seems like you could use that to tell if you've outranged a targeted AoE attack like void reaver's orbs |
| 22:40.14 | NivFreak | random thoughts in my head after watching a bunch of morons die to VR's orbs |
| 22:40.15 | NeoTron | or you could just move to a reasonble location? :P |
| 22:40.27 | NivFreak | I'm not saying it's nessicary |
| 22:40.30 | NivFreak | just had a thought |
| 22:40.45 | Josh_Borke | yes it would be possible |
| 22:41.08 | NivFreak | what's the lib's name? |
| 22:41.29 | Josh_Borke | uh, dunno off the top of my head and i'm hammering my machine too hard to look for it |
| 22:41.32 | Josh_Borke | it's in teh ace svn |
| 22:41.42 | Josh_Borke | he has a demo of it on youtube too |
| 22:41.58 | NeoTron | probably something intuative like... Rosebunny, Fleshfetish, Puppydog or "Pinkkitten" like all other ace libs |
| 22:42.06 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:42.14 | Josh_Borke | actually, cryect is usually descriptive |
| 22:42.17 | Josh_Borke | maybe gpslib? |
| 22:42.45 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:42.49 | NivFreak | I think you got it |
| 22:43.00 | Josh_Borke | i think i did too |
| 22:43.10 | Guardix | what's the interface options frame called? |
| 22:44.04 | Josh_Borke | ~wdn |
| 22:44.05 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 22:44.08 | Josh_Borke | look in the framexml :-D |
| 22:44.09 | NivFreak | Josh_Borke: any idea on a location for the video? :) |
| 22:44.25 | Guardix | im just lazy ;p |
| 22:44.27 | Josh_Borke | youtube =D |
| 22:45.08 | NivFreak | Josh_Borke: I came up short, but now I'm onto something call dungeon crawler |
| 22:45.26 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's it |
| 22:45.26 | NivFreak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw |
| 22:45.35 | Josh_Borke | DANGIT |
| 22:48.47 | NivFreak | huh |
| 22:48.50 | NivFreak | interesting concept |
| 22:48.56 | NivFreak | looks like he didn't run with it? |
| 22:51.30 | CIA-8 | 03jncl * r58785 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (EasyUnlock.lua MinimapButtonFrame.lua TourGuide.lua): Skinner: Updated MinimapButtonFrame, EasyUnlock & TourGuide skins |
| 22:53.15 | Recluse | hmm, i should write a script to convert lua->sql->lua tables >.> |
| 22:58.01 | Tinyboom | irk, just got a trojan message when visiting Warcraftmovies... |
| 22:59.01 | Matrix110 | banner i guess |
| 22:59.14 | Tinyboom | aye |
| 22:59.33 | Matrix110 | hard to control that |
| 22:59.50 | Matrix110 | always possible to sneak such banners inside... sadly |
| 22:59.54 | Tinyboom | http://bildr.no/view/143947 |
| 23:00.02 | Matrix110 | but well AdBlock+ Noscript ftw |
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| 23:00.19 | Tinyboom | haven't gotten it yet, fresh vista64bit :p |
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| 23:01.09 | bigzero | any tooltip masters mind helping me out with this problem i'm having? ShoppingTooltip1:GetItem() returns nil when called right after ShoppingTooltip1:SetHyperlinkCompareItem(link, 1) returning 1. It makes no sense to me |
| 23:01.32 | bigzero | unless the sehyoerlinkcompareitem does it through the server |
| 23:01.46 | Matrix110 | If you installed vista more than 15mins you fail :P |
| 23:01.46 | bigzero | and i have to wait for an event to fire |
| 23:02.11 | Matrix110 | First VIsta start was Install FF/Adblock/Noscript |
| 23:02.43 | Tinyboom | Matrix110: running flawless and I really don't notice any decrease in performance.... SP1 rc helps also though:p |
| 23:02.53 | Matrix110 | i dont mean that |
| 23:02.59 | Matrix110 | iam running Vista64 aswell :P |
| 23:03.08 | Matrix110 | I mean not having installed another Browser with Adblocker :P |
| 23:03.34 | Tinyboom | ahh, using FF and opera, iexplore can go /shoo |
| 23:03.42 | CIA-8 | 03dfscott * r58786 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (AzuarcLevelGuide.toc readme.txt): |
| 23:03.42 | CIA-8 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 23:03.42 | CIA-8 | - Fix bug with minimap position in non-Fubar install |
| 23:04.00 | Tinyboom | do you have the pagefile enabled? |
| 23:04.17 | Matrix110 | yes although i dont really know when something goes inside there :P |
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| 23:04.49 | Tinyboom | hehe, I just disabled mine and tested with a run of crysis and wow at the same time, worked fine:D |
| 23:05.10 | Matrix110 | Wow takes max 700mb with my upto 100MB Addons :P |
| 23:05.17 | Matrix110 | and Crysis is <2GB aswell |
| 23:05.23 | Tinyboom | aye |
| 23:05.42 | Matrix110 | But the start value Vista uses is quite heavy tbh compared to XP :P |
| 23:05.49 | Tinyboom | wow@695mb ram atm:) |
| 23:06.06 | Tinyboom | still don't go over 4gb though:p |
| 23:06.14 | Tinyboom | but the startup is a bit heavy ye |
| 23:06.28 | Matrix110 | 1,2GB with startup progs here |
| 23:06.39 | Matrix110 | In my old XP pc i didnt even had that much memory :P |
| 23:07.12 | NivFreak | I have 8G in my vista box |
| 23:07.13 | NivFreak | it does alright |
| 23:07.14 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:07.26 | NivFreak | I need a newer video card though |
| 23:07.27 | Recluse | my wow never uses over 250k... |
| 23:07.37 | Recluse | er, mb |
| 23:07.38 | NivFreak | you mean megs :P |
| 23:07.50 | Recluse | XD yeah, lack of sleep ftl |
| 23:07.52 | Matrix110 | Recluse you got 1GB memory? |
| 23:07.58 | Tinyboom | @4gig myself, adequate for my use atm:) |
| 23:08.12 | NivFreak | I need a better video card to drive WoW at my TV's res in full detail |
| 23:08.24 | NivFreak | 1920x1080 |
| 23:08.30 | Tinyboom | gief:p |
| 23:08.36 | NivFreak | it's pretty fun to play WoW on the 56" |
| 23:08.36 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:08.39 | Matrix110 | then your OS just lets the Pagefile just we run it under "you can use as much ram as you want" |
| 23:08.45 | buu | NivFreak: Isn't it hard to read things? |
| 23:08.46 | Recluse | Matrix110: 2... but would that influence wow's allotment? |
| 23:08.51 | NivFreak | buu: nah, it's easy |
| 23:08.55 | buu | Hrm. |
| 23:08.57 | NivFreak | 1080p is clear |
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| 23:09.13 | NivFreak | the only issues i've had to deal with were related to overscan |
| 23:09.27 | Matrix110 | I "only" got 4GB in my machine got abit angry taht the prices dropped even more i couldve bought 8GB for only 10€ more now^^ |
| 23:10.10 | Matrix110 | Bedtime for me gotta get up in 5hrs :P g8 |
| 23:10.19 | buu | NivFreak: Hrm. I think I might need a new tv, my current one stopped accepting component in somehow. |
| 23:10.42 | NivFreak | I do dvi -> hdmi |
| 23:11.19 | Tinyboom | <3 dvi -> hdmi :) |
| 23:11.32 | Tinyboom | though my tv is only a small 42".... |
| 23:13.25 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 23:13.33 | Silowyi | resto druid holy paladin mm hunter 3v3 |
| 23:14.03 | Silowyi | I can't imagine it would work in higher brackets |
| 23:14.16 | Silowyi | but right now, we're winning every game and annoying the hell out of the other team |
| 23:14.16 | NivFreak | restro druid + hunter is pretty brutal |
| 23:14.21 | NivFreak | but I think I'd take a BM hunter |
| 23:14.41 | Kivin | in 2v2, bm hunter is very mean, but i wouldn't want to be bm in 5v5.. i'm not sure about 3v |
| 23:15.32 | NivFreak | I actually got killed on my priest when we went up a against a duel BM hunter team |
| 23:15.41 | NivFreak | (2v2) |
| 23:15.54 | Silowyi | two BM teams are hard for me to heal through as a resto druid |
| 23:15.56 | NivFreak | I may have been holy at the time I guess |
| 23:15.57 | Silowyi | so much burst |
| 23:16.01 | Silowyi | and half healing |
| 23:16.02 | Kivin | BM hunter is basically like a 3m mage. Unleashes hell for a few seconds, then it's pooched |
| 23:16.07 | Silowyi | plus pets for cast pushback |
| 23:16.13 | Silowyi | yeah |
| 23:16.17 | NivFreak | Kivin: yea, I just pain suppress for it now |
| 23:16.18 | Silowyi | but the bm hunter is 16 seconds |
| 23:16.35 | Silowyi | the the 3m mage is "did pyroblast kill them? Nope... damn." |
| 23:16.39 | Kivin | Great for 2v, but no way i'd consider it viable in 1500+ 5v |
| 23:16.53 | Kivin | Silowyi: it's a bit more complicated than that |
| 23:17.08 | Silowyi | well ok |
| 23:17.28 | Kivin | I don't know enough about mage spells to tell what they use, but there seems to be about 4-5 casts involved in a 3 minute mage |
| 23:17.30 | Silowyi | it's more like "Did pyroblast blastwave dragons breath fire blast, cone of cold kill them?" |
| 23:17.38 | Silowyi | but still |
| 23:17.59 | NivFreak | wow, 8800GT cards are like $250 now |
| 23:18.03 | NivFreak | I should just upgrade |
| 23:18.14 | bigzero | since when do you need drivers for RAM? http://ace.pastey.net/80878 |
| 23:18.25 | Kivin | i'm holding off on a video card until direct x 10 cards are affordable |
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| 23:18.31 | Kivin | my resto sham sword rogue combo just downed a warlock mage combo... surprised |
| 23:19.04 | Kivin | warlock had me at 113 hp and i squeezed off a insta heal just in time |
| 23:19.17 | buu | Kivin: Shamans are fucking annoying to kill. |
| 23:19.24 | Kivin | I'm beginning to see that |
| 23:19.28 | Kivin | I have no PVP gear, though |
| 23:19.28 | NivFreak | bigzero: is UIgnome ready for general use? :) |
| 23:19.35 | buu | Just run around a pillar healing yourself. |
| 23:19.49 | *** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.5.getinternet.no) |
| 23:19.56 | Kivin | buu: I haven't really figured out how to incorporate my surroundings into combat, yet. I'm still a total pvp healnoob |
| 23:20.03 | Kivin | I mostly just stand there and heal through the damage |
| 23:20.03 | bigzero | NivFreak, hmmm, there's no ui.. so i wouldn't say so |
| 23:20.08 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:20.20 | NivFreak | decent command line interface? |
| 23:20.23 | Kivin | It was when the felhunter ate my earthshield that i went "oh shit" |
| 23:20.26 | buu | Kivin: That's just asking for a fear. |
| 23:20.27 | bigzero | NivFreak been really busy lately, so couldn't code. but I will have much more time starting next week |
| 23:20.37 | NivFreak | bigzero: I'm still very intereted :) |
| 23:20.39 | Kivin | buu: yeah. warlock never feared me |
| 23:20.40 | NivFreak | interested |
| 23:20.47 | buu | Kivin: See, uh, there's yer problem. |
| 23:20.49 | Kivin | mage went down like tissue paper to my very geared rogue partner |
| 23:21.09 | bigzero | NivFreak, alright, i'll get right back to it starting monday i think. |
| 23:21.21 | Kivin | then the warlock obviously couldnt' compete. but she very nearly got me when i wasn't ready for my earthshield to get gobbled up |
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| 23:22.00 | NivFreak | bigzero: are you dealing with profiles when supported? |
| 23:22.35 | NivFreak | or just doing savedvariable magic |
| 23:22.40 | buu | Kivin: That's not so good =[ |
| 23:22.48 | Kivin | buu: what's not so good |
| 23:23.58 | buu | Kivin: Terrible warlocks. Also, earth shield. |
| 23:24.07 | buu | You should have mana shield up on yourself. |
| 23:24.15 | Kivin | mana shield? you mean, water shield? |
| 23:24.26 | buu | Yes! |
| 23:24.28 | Kivin | uhhh |
| 23:24.29 | Kivin | dude |
| 23:24.31 | buu | LAWLFREEMANAWATERSHIELD |
| 23:24.36 | Kivin | i have 10k mana |
| 23:24.40 | Kivin | i don't need an extra 700 |
| 23:24.44 | buu | ... |
| 23:24.54 | buu | Lets see |
| 23:25.11 | buu | That's a mere 50 seconds of drain mana assuming you never cast a spell. |
| 23:25.21 | Daemona | Antiarc -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3913740831&sid=1 |
| 23:25.22 | kergoth | hmm, downside to hiding my unitframes and using mhud.. cant abandon a pet.. wonder if theres an addon to get to that |
| 23:25.25 | Kivin | in eleven 2v2s, i've yet to come even close to burning my mana, and i've got mana tide to spare |
| 23:25.33 | Ellipsis | kergoth: /script PetAbandon()? |
| 23:25.51 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58787 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: Tweak config tables slightly so that the list of nodes to filter are alphabetically sorted (works in any locale too!) |
| 23:26.16 | kergoth | ah, its not protected? cool |
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| 23:26.19 | Antiarc | Daemona: Iiiiinteresting. |
| 23:26.19 | kergoth | thatll do :) |
| 23:33.29 | chiper | kerg: mhud doesn't let you click the target name? |
| 23:33.51 | chiper | in metahud I just select the pet and right click the name |
| 23:44.17 | kergoth | nah mhud is pretty new, doesnt have a lot of features yet cant click on anything |
| 23:44.31 | kergoth | hopefully it gets that feature eventually |
| 23:48.21 | Estil | quick question: I am looking to increase my Defense skill real fast because it's low |
| 23:48.29 | Kivin | yep |
| 23:48.39 | Estil | would taking like 15 level 5 mobs work good? |
| 23:48.42 | Estil | to quickly reach the cap |
| 23:48.55 | Kivin | eventually they'll stop giving you meaningful skillups IIRC |
| 23:49.17 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58788 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Config.lua Locales/GatherMate-enUS.lua): GatherMate: Rearrange the config tree |
| 23:49.33 | Estil | oh D: |
| 23:49.34 | Estil | damn it |
| 23:49.45 | Kivin | Just a suspicion |
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| 23:56.24 | kergoth | <3 minichat, set to expand on mouseover, collapse after 30 seconds, and expand on guild/officer/party chat |
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