IRC log for #wowace on 20080114

00:00.02Shadowed({x1, x2, x3...}, {y1, y2, y3...}, {r, g, b, a})?
00:00.20Xinhuani don't know, i've never used libgraph before
00:00.25Xinhuanall i've done is port it to libstub
00:00.30Shadowed({{x1, x2, x3...}, {y1, y2, y3...}}, {r, g, b, a})?
00:00.54Shadoweduseless!
00:01.01Xinhuancheck the code pfft
00:01.02ShadowedCryectttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
00:01.12Pkekyo|Xinhuan: well, my eyes honestly hurts when I look at your UI :p
00:01.25Xinhuanif i replace xperl, maybe it'll look better
00:01.33Xinhuanimagine xperl isn't there
00:02.23Pkekyo|well, xperl in general is fugly as hell
00:02.31Xinhuani suppose having 22 ppl clumped up in one single spot isn't helping
00:02.33Antiarcxperl just doesn't appeal to me at all, visually
00:02.39Xinhuanthat's why it looks bad
00:02.44AntiarcI also turn off guild names/titles
00:03.06Xinhuansince the Parrot text just gets in the way of the playernames
00:07.18buuSo.
00:07.28buuUsing the baggin's sauce, how do I filter on 'soulbound'?
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00:15.02NightHawkTheSaneany druids here i can pester?
00:15.46Daemonadepends
00:15.51Daemonaon the mtopic ,)
00:15.52Ellipsisferal or resto? :P
00:16.05Daemonabalance !
00:16.06Daemona... not
00:16.07NightHawkTheSaneferal :P
00:16.23NightHawkTheSaneactually, simple question, for cat dps in 5 mans
00:16.31NightHawkTheSaneif i have shredding attacks, use shred or mangle?
00:17.04Daemonau do mangle, shred to 5, wait for 70+ energy, rip, mangle, shred to 5
00:17.34Daemonaits just a furry dagger rogue
00:18.39NightHawkTheSanethis is the first time i've actually gotten to dps with my druid, so i really wasn't sure :)
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00:25.50AntiarcDoes anyone know of a mod that announces what you interrupted when you interrupt something?
00:26.00AntiarcA guildmate of mine has one that does that, but doesn't know what it is
00:26.47NightHawkTheSanemsbt does i think
00:26.53ulicthere is one on curse I found, can't remember the name
00:27.17ulicit was designed for a mage but extended for other classes
00:27.41dre^there's one called satrina buff frames that will draw nice debuff bars for stuns / silences
00:27.59dre^(and other debuffs)
00:28.10AntiarcI just want a "I interrupted X" to party
00:28.13AntiarcI'll write one I guess
00:28.15ulicDispellReporter
00:28.34NightHawkTheSaneprobably easier to write one yourself :P
00:28.47dre^just macro your stun abilities...
00:28.53dre^<PROTECTED>
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00:29.07AntiarcThat doesn't indicate if it landed.
00:29.28dre^indeed
00:30.52Finthere are far too few macro slots available
00:31.05dre^heh ya no doubt. mine are all full
00:31.10FinI shall have to write a letter
00:33.48bigzeroAntiarc, combatannounce can do it i believe
00:33.55dre^I've heard of chaining macros using /click, but that only addresses the macro size limit not the number of macro slots, heh
00:35.08AntiarcThanks, bigzero
00:35.36bigzerohmm, i might have to write a ui for Achtung and release it before 2.4
00:36.03bigzeroit's pretty much combatannounce with ui
00:36.09bigzeroerr
00:36.14bigzero<PROTECTED>
00:38.42GagorianDestro lock <3
00:39.29GagorianJuust got a 11278 sbolt crit on council
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00:46.58Arrowmasteris there something special about that fight?
00:47.10Gagoriannay, that's the point
00:47.21Arrowmasterdamn
00:48.15CIA-403morgalm * r58440 10MorgDKP/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
00:48.15CIA-4MorgDKP:
00:48.15CIA-4- Fixed bug in Morgimport where event drops were not recorded if the event name was Changed
00:48.15CIA-4- Removed badges from loottablet popup
00:48.15CIA-4- Tweaked pointloading for rare case when DKP1 is missing and renamed global to MorgDKP_DKPx
00:49.15GagorianDestro scales quite well so.. In the end it's possible to get insane numbers like that
00:49.55GagorianUsually it's between 9-10k though, need a bit of luck and trinket(s) to push it past 11k
00:51.47bigzerois that not proof enough that locks are way too OP?
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00:52.19Estilyay A on healing vision angelic mix doubles
00:52.59RaydenUniso...
00:53.02RaydenUnii can talk to you guys
00:53.05RaydenUnii can ping google
00:53.09RaydenUnibut i can't get any websites to come up
00:53.29Finsounds like a DNS problem
00:53.30exor674RaydenUni: you aren't talking to iussss!
00:53.39exor674we are a figment of your imagination
00:53.44Finwho?
00:53.46exor674you need to sleep more
00:53.47ShirikI agree with the DNS prognosis
00:53.58RaydenUnibut ping www.google.com works
00:54.01RaydenUniand that goes through dns
00:54.02Shirikhm, prognosis is probably not the right word
00:54.05ShirikRaydenUni: That's probably cached
00:54.16Shirikgo to command prompt, type "nslookup" hit enter and try to pull up google.com
00:54.18RaydenUnithen why isn't www.google.com cached when i try to visit it?
00:54.26Finif you're using Windows, try ipconfig /dnsflush
00:54.33Finto clear your DNS cache
00:54.39Fin(from a command prompt)
00:54.47RaydenUniwhat am i looking for when i use nslookup?
00:54.53Fina hostname
00:54.54Shirikjust paste the response
00:55.12CIA-403zuno * r58441 10UnitActionBars2/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
00:55.12CIA-4UnitActionBars2:
00:55.12CIA-4- Fixed issue with ranked spells with same name, but different rank type (e.g., "Rank 1: Pig" vs. "Rank 1" for Polymorph).
00:55.17RaydenUnii get a server and an address, and then a non-authroitative answer with a name "google.com" and 3 addresses
00:55.30Shirikwho's the response from?
00:55.51RaydenUninow it works...
00:55.54Shiriklol
00:56.03Finmy next guess is incorrect proxy settings
00:56.12bigzeroummm, my DNS responses time out... but I can use the net just fine
00:56.13RaydenUnii wonder if it was azureus
00:56.22RaydenUniit stopped shortly after i started it up and then worked after i killed it
00:56.29RaydenUnialthough i checked and it wasn't flooding my upload or download
00:56.31Finbut, can't be arsed to explain how to check them
00:56.46RaydenUniit was working just fine 5 minutes ago and then WHAMO not working
00:56.54Finthen what?
00:56.58Finsay it again
00:57.01Finplease
00:57.09RaydenUniWHAMO
00:57.14RaydenUninow i forget where i wanted to go...
00:57.23FinWHAMMO
00:57.27dre^check your browser history ;)
00:57.32RaydenUnisomething on wikipedia
00:57.33FinWHAM BAM SLAMMO
00:57.45RaydenUnino since i couldn't go there it didn't go into history
00:57.59RaydenUnioh yeah look up some anime
00:58.13FinWHAMMO
00:58.51FinKERBLAMMO
00:59.45Traenecrosis used to have a feature where it would use one of your bags as a shard bag and only put shards in there
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00:59.48Traeany locks here?
00:59.56FinKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBAAAAAAAAAAMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:00.04FinTrae: yeah, in training
01:00.05Traewhat's the best lock addon
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01:00.25FinAceLockAddOn Gold edition v. ****9****
01:00.29dre^it's called meatfist. named after what you need in order to kill things as a lock. just pound away, and there you have it!
01:00.32TraeFin, ahhh
01:00.42Estilbest lock addon?
01:00.45Estilnecrosis
01:00.47Fina key!
01:00.48dre^though I'm actually not pissed anymore. I can beat locks now with 400+ resil as resto shaman
01:00.48Finahaha!
01:00.50Estilwell... it's very outdated but it still works fine
01:00.51Finget it?!
01:00.52Finlock!
01:00.53Finkey!
01:00.56Finhaha!
01:01.03TraeEstil, yeah necrosis isn't in the wowace addons
01:01.09Estilpretty sure there is an equilvalent in wowace
01:01.21Estilbut not sure which, I ain't gonna fix what isn't broken so...
01:01.25RaydenUniyeah this is weird
01:01.32RaydenUnijust starting azureus makes me unable to browse the web
01:01.47Arrowmasterhave a router?
01:01.48Estilalso those timers that keep track of DoTs are useful
01:01.50dre^RaydenUni: it could be opening so many network sockets that you're runningout of file handles
01:01.54RaydenUniand after i shut it down there is a lag time until it comes back up
01:01.57TraeEstil, yeah I love those
01:02.00dre^RaydenUni: try limiting the number of active transfers / peers
01:02.03RaydenUnii'm behind a router but i don't have access to it
01:02.06TraeEstil, so you won't get any errors with necrosis?
01:02.08Arrowmasterturn off the distruted tracking
01:02.10TraeEstil, what version?
01:02.16RaydenUniazureus compains that it doesn't have any nice ports
01:02.30EstilTrae: I currently use uh
01:02.31Estilsec
01:02.40TraeEstil, UH?
01:02.42Traeheh
01:03.20Estilthe toc states it's 2.0 designed for interface ver 20003
01:03.27Arrowmasteri use quartz
01:03.27Estilit has 0 errors atm
01:03.29Traelol
01:03.31Estileverything on it works as intended
01:03.31Arrowmasteryou dont need anything else
01:03.44Estildunno how such old code managed to work
01:03.49Estil(currently available one supposedely has bugs)
01:04.24exor674Estil: if it was pre-2.0 it'd probably not work
01:04.29Arrowmasteryou probably have errors or something disabled
01:04.38Estilnah, it was made for BC
01:04.44Estiland errors pop up if it happens
01:04.47exor674there've not been THAT many (breaking) API *changes* since 2.0
01:05.09Arrowmasterno but just about everything converted from 1.x to 2.0 wasnt done properly
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01:05.43Estilthen I guess these guys did it well
01:05.45Daemonahey Antiarc just found an old link for a good laugh ... http://bayimg.com/album/LAaHBAAaC ...
01:05.45kagaroping Xinhaun
01:05.56EstilI can't recall a time where game reported error from necrosis
01:06.02exor674I use Necrosis and it works fine too
01:06.05exor674and I DO have errors on
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01:06.22Arrowmasteruse bugsack?
01:06.41Arrowmasterif you do, do you have 'filter addon mistakes' enabled?
01:06.44exor674Swatter :P -- *other* 2.3 addons error more then Necrosis does
01:07.07Arrowmasterlike what?
01:07.27Arrowmasterprobably some crappy addons if they were writen for 2.3 and error
01:07.31exor674SimpleCombatLog
01:07.44exor674FuBar_TopScoreFu
01:07.49Arrowmasterneither of those error
01:07.57Arrowmasterfor me
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01:08.15Arrowmasterand neither was really updated for 2.3
01:08.23Arrowmastertheyre perty old too
01:08.41EstilI never used any other warlock addons
01:08.42Estilother than necrosis
01:09.02exor674suuure
01:09.11exor674TopScoreFu, 36 hours ago! http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_TopScoreFu
01:09.40Arrowmasterbrb
01:09.45Arrowmastervoid reaver
01:09.46exor674simplecombatlog is oldish, but it still WORKS well enough, it just throws errors occasionally
01:10.25Estilwell let's just say people program things and we make errors sometimes
01:10.25Estil:D
01:12.36[AR]Camcihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJlA98xhDg
01:13.24bigzero[AR]Camci, you're evil
01:13.29bigzerothat thing is 10mins long
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01:15.42Arrowmasterive never had an error from simplecombatlog
01:16.31khanggneither have i
01:17.02Arrowmasterand when i said not really updated for 2.3 i didnt mean not updated at all but no 'real' updates
01:17.21Arrowmasteradding a boss to the filter list isnt a real update
01:17.25Arrowmasterfor 2.3
01:19.23exor674tell me, what for TopScoreFu changed in the API, that would need an update
01:19.33Arrowmasternothing
01:19.41Arrowmasteraddons been around since 1.x
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01:19.56Arrowmasterstill cant really call it a 2.3 addon though
01:20.10exor674so you only call an addon a 2.3 addon if it was WRITTEN since 2.3 came out
01:20.13exor674?
01:20.26Fincheck the rules!
01:20.28Finthe RULES!
01:20.39Finnoncompliance WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
01:20.45Arrowmasterno but you were calling topscorefu a 2.3 addon and saying it errors more than some 2.0 addon
01:21.06exor674I was referring to the number in the .toc file, dumbass
01:21.24Arrowmasteryeah i know
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01:21.30Arrowmasterguess what that number doesnt mean shit
01:22.06Arrowmasterbecause every damn retard with svn access around here will bump the toc number for no damn good reason
01:22.14Arrowmasterincluding on addons that are broken
01:22.20CIA-403pernicius 07pernicius * r58442 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap/ (modCore.lua modMap.lua modPOI.lua modUI.lua):
01:22.20CIA-4AtlasOfAzeroth_WorldMap:
01:22.20CIA-4- standard POI's nearly finished
01:22.29Finnein! ACHTUNG DER NUMBER!
01:24.43Ellipsiso.o
01:24.50Finconversation genocide
01:25.32Chompersfin is awesome
01:27.07EllipsisI agree
01:27.10EllipsisFin is awesome
01:27.16Ellipsisthere should be an official #wowace Fin day
01:27.20Gagorian>_>
01:27.28Fin!
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01:27.50GagorianHe has just brainwashed you
01:27.55GagorianThe attraction isn't real!
01:28.03GagorianFIGHT IT
01:28.25Ellipsiso rly?
01:28.44GagorianThe real you is somewhere in there... I'm sure you can hear me!
01:28.46Ellipsisso...I shouldn't run off and stalk him until he agrees to marry me?
01:28.46GagorianFight it!
01:28.58GagorianTHATS RIGHT
01:29.04GagorianIt's starting to work!
01:29.07Ellipsishm...
01:29.16Ellipsisbut then whom will I devote my life to?
01:29.55GagorianHmm, would be unfair of me to give advice in your current state!
01:29.58FinNEIN! other boys they IST VERBOTEN!
01:30.10FinSILENCE!
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01:31.21Ellipsiso.o
01:31.24KivinI officially hate prince
01:31.41Finhe's got such an ego
01:31.47Finbut, a great artist
01:31.57KivinAnyone here mainheal the Prince event?
01:32.03Findid you see that sketch by Dave Chapelle?
01:32.06Finoh
01:32.08Finyeah, I do Kivin
01:32.16KivinFin, how many healers do you have dedicated to the MT during Phase 2
01:32.20Finnot the Prince as in the artist formerly known as then
01:32.29CIA-403antiarc * r58443 10Deadened/ (Deadened.lua Deadened.toc Libs/): Deadened: Added ability to announce interrupts to group/yell/say.
01:32.38Kivin...what?
01:32.42FinKivin: dedicated to the MT, two normally
01:32.46Kivinokay
01:32.48Finnever mind
01:33.01KivinThis is brand new content to us, so I'm kinda winging it.  We've got two resto shamans dedicated to MT heals
01:33.10Estilare you guys doing the prince the "normal" way
01:33.12Estilor the "cheap" way
01:33.23Finqui est le "cheap" way?
01:33.27KivinI told the other guy to chain cast big heals and i'm spamming lesser heals
01:33.28Chompersthey took that out
01:33.31Chomperscant do the door hack
01:33.32Estiloh
01:33.35Estilgot nerfed eh
01:33.36Estiloh well
01:33.43Finaw, that's terrible
01:33.46Estilhaven't done kara in ages since I don't need anything there
01:33.53KivinSo, back to healing Prince?
01:33.53FinI can't imagine a whole 10-man raid agreeing to do that, what cheapskates
01:33.58Chompersbadges, everyone needs badges
01:34.06KivinFin: How do you keep the MT up during P2?
01:34.15Chomperswe give him heulz
01:34.17Finmake sure the Shadow Word: Pain is always dispelled
01:34.21Kivinit is
01:34.21Finuhm
01:34.22exor674safezone still works
01:34.22Estilit could be the tank problem OR the bad luck
01:34.23NightHawkTheSaneFin: to be fair, prince is an idiotic fight to begin with :P
01:34.24Estilin P2
01:34.35Estilyes, I said it, bad luck
01:34.36KivinIt's not bad luck, he isnt' getting enough heals, plain and simple
01:34.46Chompersif its first time the tank needs a flask
01:34.52NightHawkTheSaneKivin: well, if he's not getting enough heals, either he needs better gear, or he needs better healers
01:34.56KivinAm I on the right track by having the other shaman blast rank 12 HWs and I spam LHWs?
01:34.57FinNightHawkTheSane: yeah, well, it's very random with the ... shit completely forgot the name of the .. ah infernals
01:34.58Estilhe has to ensure shield block is on pretty much 24/7
01:34.58Chompersand a good few kara pieces
01:34.59Estilduring p2
01:35.02Chompersnot some shitty greens
01:35.14NightHawkTheSanebut the fact is, it's entirely possible to have tehe tank just get massively fucked by bad chains of attacks/crushes
01:35.30Estilusually p2 death comes from what NightHawk said
01:35.30FinKivin: I have to say I'm not too intimate with shaman healing
01:35.33Estilif healer is on the ball
01:35.40NightHawkTheSaneFin: yeah, its probably the only fight in the game you can outgear and do everything right, and still lose :P
01:35.50KivinFin: Assuming no HOTs available, does that make sense?
01:36.05Chompersthrow in the odd chain heal for the mele
01:36.08Chompers*melee
01:36.15FinNightHawkTheSane: apart from Vaelstrasz :)
01:36.21Estilat least with vael
01:36.25Estilyou don't have to deal with stupid random infernals
01:36.32NightHawkTheSaneFin: eh, if you're doing everything right, vael won't fuck you
01:36.34FinKivin: yyyesss... would you go OOM if you used bigger heals?
01:36.46KivinFin: Big heals are more efficient than small heals
01:37.10Estilis everybody spamming heals
01:37.13KivinFin: I'm concerned that two of us using 2.5s heals is too long
01:37.18Chompersgotta burn him down in p2
01:37.22Kivinyeah, i'm not even canceling during cast, just spam spam spam
01:37.23NightHawkTheSaneKivin: imo, compromise and both use r8 or 10? :P  spamming LHW is really kind of dumb
01:37.24FinNightHawkTheSane: they feel the same to me :)
01:37.24Chompersreally burn the shit out of him
01:37.29FinKivin: and... no hots? how comes?
01:37.35Finno drood? that's got to hurt
01:37.35KivinFin: Who is gonna hot?
01:37.42FinHOTs, sorry
01:37.53Arrowmasterget a bear tank for phase2 that only gets hit 8 times
01:38.10Kivinwe have a bear tank
01:38.14Arrowmasterbosses getting dualweild miss penalty ftw
01:38.14Estilin my case we have pallys doing big heals
01:38.14Kivinhe's well geared, i think, too
01:38.23Estiland I try to top people off
01:38.29Estilwith small heals or renews
01:38.36Finmost of the time I've seen Prince tanked with a warrior, personally
01:38.44Estilhave pally tank it
01:38.45NightHawkTheSanei've done prince with a pally
01:38.47Estilyou'll enjoy how easy it is
01:38.57NightHawkTheSanewhich is kind of hax, really
01:39.02FinI'm not a fan of pally tanks, myself
01:39.12Ellipsispally tanks make me happy
01:39.17Chompersgodlike on some fights
01:39.17Estilin the pants?
01:39.20Ellipsisbut on bosses? I'll take a warr
01:39.24Finmy experience healing them is that it's generally a lot harder than with a drood or warrior - but then maybe I just haven't healed any with good enough gear
01:39.29EllipsisEstil: sometimes *blush*
01:39.35Estilpallys need better gear than warriors
01:39.35NightHawkTheSaneFin: probably the latter :P
01:39.39Estilto be on "equal setting"
01:39.40Finin which case paladins should stop trying to tank until they get better gear!
01:39.40Chompersleo is easymode with pallytank
01:39.46NightHawkTheSaneon the whole, all tanks are relatively equal in the grand scheme of things
01:40.16Finwell, grand scheme is alright, but this is just my personal experience
01:40.21Estilanyway, I'd suggest someone to spam big heals, and another to top people off, and ensure the tank has shield block / holy shield at all times
01:40.32CIA-403antiarc * r58444 10Deadened/ (Deadened.toc embeds.xml): Deadened: Added embeds.xml
01:40.41NightHawkTheSaneKivin: how many healers do you have, at what gear level?
01:40.49FinI try not to be prejudiced but NEIN DER PALLIES NICHT TANKEN
01:40.56Estilthat's why I say shield block ;)
01:40.59Estilin case you have warr tank
01:41.04EstilI wouldn't take druid tank for this case but that's just me
01:41.15Chomperstake a shadowpriest too
01:41.15FinKivin: I'd definitely say try using bigger heals, also might be worth switching tanks
01:41.20Chompershoray for regen
01:41.38FinI was just in a group with my healy priest and two shadow priests
01:41.40Finseriously
01:41.41Estilit's actually possible for warrior (who just started kara) to be instagibbed during P2
01:41.44Estilno matter how much heal you throw on him
01:41.47Finit was crazy mad
01:41.50Chompersperhaps wait till the reset and clear what you can of kara with prio going the tank
01:41.53CIA-403antiarc * r58445 10Deadened/Deadened.lua: Deadened: Fix a borked if block. Oops.
01:41.55Chompersmakes it all easier
01:42.02FinEstil: yeah, it is, but that's just bad luck
01:42.18Estilit happens a lot until the warrior is geared out bit more
01:42.20Findrood HOTs are a massive help
01:42.38Estilwish our guild had more droods that were on active
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01:42.46Estilwe had to deal with kara with 0 druids most of the time
01:43.11Findrood HOTs + priest instant heals + renew + chunky greater heals just seems to be enough for, well, everything really
01:43.21Finthat's unfortunate
01:43.47Estilhow many healers you guys have again?
01:43.58Kivinattempt two just wiped us *sigh*
01:44.06Chomperstake a warlock, imp buff helps
01:44.17Kivininfernal dropped to our left, then to our right, then on top of us.  had nowhere to go
01:44.27Chompershave a ranged dps call out infernals
01:44.27Estil^ why prince encounter is shitty
01:44.30Finimp buff is a bit difficult to keep up with the tank running around
01:44.40Chompersand spread people out, dont be scared to move prince about
01:45.11FinI always ask a pally to do the dispels, btw, because I'm squishy and always die when I go in range to dispel and fuck up on the shadow aoe
01:45.28Finfocus too much on health bars and not what's going on around me
01:45.34NightHawkTheSanethe other nice thing abot having a pally tank, they can dispel themselves :)
01:45.34Estilhaha that happens to me too
01:45.35Chompersdoesnt matter
01:45.39Ellipsissilly Fin
01:45.39EstilI focus on others so much I forget my own and die
01:45.40Chompersthey get 1hp too
01:45.42Estiland I go "lol wtf I died?"
01:46.08Finhonestly, for a huge chunk of the game I don't have a clue what's really going on
01:46.18Chompersmost people dont
01:46.54Chompersjust play whack a mole with raid frames, get your purpz and go home
01:47.06Ellipsishm
01:47.09FinI never pay attention to fight strategies and stuff when it's being explained, I just want to know: do I have to move around; do I have to heal anyone but one or two targets; will I be taking damage; are there any aggro dumps to allow for
01:47.10NightHawkTheSanethats what i do
01:47.16EllipsisI was going to say that dps doesn't generalyl know what's going on with people's health bars, either
01:47.27EstilI decided not to raid
01:47.29Ellipsisbut I tend to keep an eye on that when I'm looking to life tap
01:47.32Estiland went to pvp after doing kara few times
01:47.49FinI really like Karazhan
01:47.52Estilit was hard trying to raid when I was burned out doing 40 mans in original
01:47.59Finit's one of my favourite instances in the game
01:48.16FinNaxxramas second, I didn't do it much at the time though, then ZG I reckon :)
01:48.43Estilmaybe I should've raided as a dpser
01:48.47Estilinstead of a fricking paladin
01:48.48Estilin original
01:48.54NightHawkTheSanei loved zg
01:49.21Finpallies didn't have a good deal really pre-TBC, in my opinion - dispellers and buffers mostly
01:49.45Chompersawesome now though
01:49.49Kivinwe had six pallies in MC, and all they did was dispel
01:49.49Chomperslove my paladin
01:49.54Finbut, I have to say the first time I raided as pure DPS, I didn't know what to do
01:50.01Estilpaladin raiding in original was mind numbingly boring
01:50.04Finbefore then I'd either been tanking or healing
01:50.28Estiland yet
01:50.31EstilI rolled even more healers
01:50.31Estil...
01:50.34FinDPSing is just... hit stuff... I kept waiting for people to tell me what to do, what to attack, where to stand and stuff
01:50.53FinI miss tanking
01:51.02Finbut
01:51.08FinI just can't bring myself to level up my warrior
01:51.13Estilyou need the will
01:51.14Estil:(
01:51.16Finnono
01:51.31NightHawkTheSaneI miss tanking too, but i dont miss my warrior
01:51.31Finit's just... I can't imagine getting rid of my beautiful Quel'Serrar
01:51.40EstilI leveled up a warrior but different reason than the most fotm warrior rerollers
01:51.45Chompersdpsing for me is asking for the mobs to be moved so i can whirlwind
01:51.52Chompersbastard sheeps
01:51.53Finheh
01:51.59Finyes well
01:52.05Finthey end up bastards if their father abandons them
01:52.15Finthat'll teach you to go round shagging random sheep like that!
01:52.17Chompersdo demons even have fathers?
01:52.29Finno, just mothers in law
01:52.35Chompersunless you count pain as their fathers
01:52.35EstilI have a warrior that is almost ready for kara
01:52.36NightHawkTheSanehah, zing
01:52.47Chompersi see what you did thar
01:53.17FinI open my mouth and - WHAMMO - out it comes
01:53.25Finor, fingers, type, etc.
01:54.08Ellipsisand that is why we love you
01:55.04FinNEIN! emotion is fur der WEAK and some girls!
01:55.25NightHawkTheSanewell, i guess it's good there's no girls on the internet
01:55.31Chompersadhd baby
01:56.01Estilgirls on teh intarweb is a farce
01:56.23Ellipsisit's true
01:56.54Ellipsisit's a conspiracy meant to trap innocent nerds in the endless cycle of internet addiction
01:57.08Finno nerd is truly innocent
01:57.08Chomperscreated by blizzard themselves
01:57.39Chompersi've never met a clean minded wow player
01:57.51Fina clean mind is a dead mind
01:58.28EllipsisI was innocent once, I swear
01:58.31Ellipsisor maybe that was a dream...
01:59.27Finjuuuuust keep telling yourself
01:59.39Pkekyo|160/225 enchanting in 20 mins :)
01:59.48Finthat's what I want to do!
02:00.09FinPkekyo|: I demand that you tell me detailed information on how you achieved this!
02:00.26Gnarfozw00t Vashj & Al'ar first kills today (yes, in that order ;D)
02:00.27FinI demand it!
02:00.35Pkekyo|Fin: gimme a second, I've made a spreadsheet :p
02:01.00Pkekyo|rofl
02:01.01Finyay! snuggledust!
02:01.05Pkekyo|anyone here been in the army?
02:01.29FinPkekyo|: there are no decent guides out there, seriously
02:01.45Finnone as good as the Tailoring guide on WoWWiki, anyway
02:01.52syerenIf you happen to be doing this in order to get ring enchants and you're noting down your data in a spreadsheet for other people to do it fast, please do let me have a copy Pkekyo|, it would be nice.
02:01.56Finunless my searchfu has seriously failed me
02:02.08Pkekyo|Fin: this isn't that much of a guide either tbh, I might set spreadsheets up in a rather excentric fashion :p
02:02.30Pkekyo|sorry to dissapoint you all lads
02:02.35Pkekyo|s/enchanting/engineering/
02:02.39FinPkekyo|: I promise you it will be an improvement on the currently available attempts
02:02.40Pkekyo|>.<
02:02.45Finnooooooooooooooooo
02:02.48Fincurses!
02:02.59Finyou did that on purpose, you, you fiend!
02:03.06Pkekyo|had I thought of it earlier, I would've made one when I leveled enchanting on my mage
02:03.18Pkekyo|(had 300+ at lvl 50)
02:03.29Ellipsisnow what will you do with the snuggledust?
02:03.30Finoh well, fuck it, I'm just going to drop herbalism and see how long it takes me to level
02:03.40Ellipsisif you can't use it to enchant weapon - major cuddles
02:03.52Pkekyo|:D
02:04.18Finthe snuggledust has, I don't know, turned into FLOATING HORROR SPIKES OF ITCH and burn skin on contact
02:04.33Ellipsisthat'd be a pretty epic enchant for rogues
02:04.52Ellipsischance on hit: cause enemies within a 5 yard radius to itch uncontrollably
02:05.03Finnon-dispellable debuff
02:05.10Finyeah, I like that idea
02:05.24Finnot too lethal exactly but it lasts forever and you can't get rid of it
02:05.30Finhm
02:05.33Pkekyo|Fin: I could tell you right now how to do the same with enchanting though...two possibilities
02:05.46FinPkekyo|: speak! speak man!
02:05.49Finquicker!
02:05.57Finenquiring minds seek answers!
02:06.00FinI must know!
02:06.05Finthe knowledge!
02:06.09FinI feel its presence!
02:06.14Ellipsiso.o
02:06.15Finshow me!
02:06.15Pkekyo|possibility 1 - Rob the AH blind of green BoEs
02:06.16Pkekyo|possibility 2 - Grab your main and rob instances blind of green BoEs
02:06.17Fintell me!
02:06.28Fincurses!
02:06.29Finfoiled again
02:06.32Finpesky kids
02:06.47Ellipsisfor the first 50 points just run noobs through deadmines or something, but claim all greens
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02:06.49bigzeroFin, there really is no point to a guide in enchanting
02:06.50FinI've done that actually - or something very similar
02:07.01bigzeroyou end up doing like a total of 10 enchants
02:07.13Finbigzero: then, there should be a guide explaining why not
02:07.16bigzeroi think there's a list of them in order on wowwiki
02:07.36bigzerothat's how i lvled it on my mage...followed the wiki
02:07.51Finalso one which had nice handy tables of what materials you need to craft all the rods, what gems you'll need, and what amounts of dusts + essences are required for each level
02:08.16bigzerogosh fin...do some math yourself :-P
02:08.17Pkekyo|Fin: the reason there's no point to an enchanting guide is that it's so bloody dependant on how you get your reens, you could cry
02:08.34KivinGrrr 14% on try #3
02:08.44KivinHad an infernal land right on top of the two healers
02:09.01Finbigzero: forgive me, it's gratuitous to want a guide in the first place, but I've gotten over that and am moaning about the lack of quality in the available guides
02:09.08Finaw, bad luck Kivin
02:09.10bigzerooh, looky here http://www.almostgaming.com/wowguides/wow-enchanting-guide
02:09.18Finyes, I have seen this, bigzero
02:09.22bigzeroand?
02:09.23KivinThe poor guy calling infernal paths was overwhelmed
02:09.43Finthose tables? egads
02:09.49Pkekyo|so none of you lads and lasses has ever been in the army?
02:09.49Ellipsishow dare you be picky, Fin! these people are putting their valuable time into making something they give you for free etc. etc. and so on
02:09.52CodayusKivin: Good infernal spotting is one of the keys to the encounter.  Sadly, it's a pretty rare skill...and hard to practice.
02:10.07Kivinthe chap we had spotting on that one has never seen prince before
02:10.08FinI appreciate the effort the author put in BUT IT'S CRAP
02:10.09Finsorry
02:10.16EstilI remember wiping to Prince when his HP was 2%
02:10.16Kivinbut he did a lot better than the vet we had doing it hte last two encounters
02:10.27FinCodayus: good point!
02:10.34KeiasI got one shot by prince while tanking him
02:10.35bigzeroFin, i don't get how it is crap
02:10.44FinI'm sorry... did you write it, bigzero?
02:10.45Kivinhe called in six infernals perfectly, but then phase 3 landed and he just got overwhelmed
02:10.48FinI don't mean anything personal
02:10.54CodayusKivin: I've wiped a raid a couple times that way.  "Who's spotting?  ....  Don't all speak at once.  ....me huh?  This is going to suck..."  I was right, it did.
02:11.02bigzeronah, i didn't, but idk what else you expect out of it
02:11.14Finwell
02:11.27CodayusShadow priests make bad spotters.  :-(
02:12.06Finbigzero: can you tell me, at a glance, how many Lesser Mystic Essences you need to get to level 125 enchanting?
02:12.07Ellipsisinfernal locations don't show up on dot timers :(
02:12.23EllipsisFin: 3x as many greaters as you'd need!
02:12.23CodayusEllipsis: You understand perfectly.  :-D
02:12.25Fincan locks see them with sense demons?
02:12.42Ellipsisno clue, never done prince =[
02:12.42FinEllipsis: I need the total - would you like to phone a friend?
02:12.51CodayusFin: Hunters can track them, but it's just about useless, because it appears late on the minimap, and the arc they follow makes their location erratic.
02:12.52Ellipsisthanks sag_ich_nicht
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02:12.58CodayusI assume warlocks can track them too.
02:13.02Finkk
02:13.09sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: what?
02:13.13sag_ich_nichti wasn't even paying attention
02:13.14Finit's not something I would like to have to do, I admit
02:13.21Ellipsiswell then you certianly have good aim
02:13.40Findid I type that out loud
02:13.44sag_ich_nichtlook
02:13.44Ellipsis:)
02:13.46sag_ich_nichtyou're doing it wrong
02:13.51KeiasEverytime I type, it's out loud
02:14.05CodayusWe use hunters for spotters given a choice though, since they have a good range, and can autoshot while spotting.  Hurts their DPS, but better than a caster.
02:14.15Estillawl
02:14.25sag_ich_nichtsee?
02:14.28FinI am listening to the most fantastic electro right now, just wanted to say that. I am very much enjoying this music. that is all.
02:14.28sag_ich_nichtthat's how you do it
02:14.31sag_ich_nichtfucking subtil noob
02:14.35Ellipsisvery nice sag_ich_nicht
02:15.17FinADJUST YOUR SETS. THIS IS A TEST.
02:15.43Fin<niF>
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02:19.12Ellipsis"fireballs are red, frostbolts are blue, break my sheep and watch me QQ"
02:19.35Finthat's wrong on more than one level
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02:19.47Finit shouldn't have been written
02:20.00Finmuch less repeated! you have done well
02:20.15Ellipsis^-^
02:20.22sag_ich_nichtLOL Ellipsis
02:20.28kebinusanmm learning archimonde
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02:24.06Pkekyo|did anyone here ever wear a BDU in cold weather?
02:25.10Finplease explain what a BDU is
02:25.19Pkekyo|a combat uniform
02:25.46Finaren't soldiers meant to have slightly bigger things to worry about
02:25.54Finlike bullets and heroism etc.
02:26.03Pkekyo|lol
02:26.07FinI'm pretty sure that's what I read
02:26.22Pkekyo|well I'm not dodging bullets, and there's no damsel in distress 'round here....hence; I worry about freezing my arse off
02:26.41Pkekyo|meh...only americans here...why do I bother? >.<
02:26.48Finhm, well, I'm not sure I approve of this sort of behaviour so I don't think I can comment
02:27.01EllipsisPkekyo|: sec, I know someone who knows the answer :P
02:27.11Pkekyo|american soldiers can't dress for jack shit in cold weather :p
02:28.50Pkekyo|gah, I was going to make some [Mithril Tube] to level engineering, but thought it said lube O.o
02:29.11bigzero<PROTECTED>
02:29.14Finto be honest (more on that phrase later!) I don't really see why we can't just forget this whole war thing anyway, I'm sure everyone's grown out of silly fights and can discuss things like mature adults
02:29.28bigzeroFin, 11 magic essence though
02:29.30Pkekyo|Fin: lmao, dream on
02:29.36FinI will
02:29.54bigzero<PROTECTED>
02:29.58Pkekyo|haven't you noticed who it is we asassinate?
02:29.59EllipsisPkekyo|: he said it depends what type of uniform they give you, which is based on where you're stationed? :P
02:30.16bigzeroFin, seriously though, those enchanting charts are really nice
02:30.16Pkekyo|it's a 3color desert BDU - US
02:30.22Ellipsiso.O
02:30.25Finbigzero: well, personally, I think that information requires more than a glance at the guide
02:30.32Ellipsisthen you'll likely freeze, yes
02:30.44Pkekyo|yeah, that was what I suspected :p
02:30.54Pkekyo|mostly concerned about wind tbh
02:30.56Finso! "to be honest" - what the fuck is going on there eh
02:31.02CodayusPkekyo|: American BDUs have a winter weight variant, I believe.
02:31.20Pkekyo|Codayus: probably....I'd imagine it's a shitty one though :p
02:31.50Finthat phrase seems to be inserted into every second sentence I see in public chat, it's all over the forums, and most of the time it doesn't even make sense in the given context
02:32.12Pkekyo|I've heard more than enough stories about american soldiers up here for winter training not knowing how to dress for jack shit :p
02:32.23Finbigzero: I don't mean to be argumentative (although I am being argumentative, I guess) but I don't agree, sorry
02:32.48Ellipsisargh
02:32.58bigzeroFin, how does it require more than a glance? to get to 125, you find a table that says 76-125, then you go to the "Lesser Magic Essence" column and go down to the bottom... you see 10. Then you do the same for the previous tables (which for the same mat would at most be one previous table
02:33.10Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
02:33.30bigzeroFin, are you sure we are talking about the same guide?
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02:34.35JoshBorkehi
02:35.12Finit's not difficult, I just think it's badly laid out and lacks some information I would like to see included - and granted I am not making much of an effort to improve the situation, I will fully admit I'm just moaning
02:35.16Pkekyo|g'morning JoshBorke
02:35.16Finbut
02:35.18CodayusPkekyo|: I believe the winter weight ones aren't used commonly.
02:35.27Fintocks
02:35.44Finhello JoshBorke
02:35.45Codayus"I agree that warm weather [BDUs] function fine in cold weather. I've worn mine during cold weather ops in Korea, Norway, Chile and Minnesota. With careful layering they work just fine."
02:35.47Pkekyo|Codayus: commonly? elaborate? :p
02:35.57Pkekyo|ah, layering
02:36.01CodayusYar.
02:36.02Pkekyo|that I can agree with
02:36.13Pkekyo|won't be layering here though, so it'll be interesting :p
02:36.28CodayusIf your relying on your uniform, you don't know what your doing, AFAIK.  (Which would be expected of someone doing cold weather training, of course.)
02:36.32CodayusReally?
02:36.32CodayusSounds odd.
02:36.37bigzeroFin, i can't imagine a better layout to be honest that would answer your question. Sure there might be a table for 1-125 enchanting, but then what if you want to know 1-75? I mean you have to have it split up a little bit
02:37.13CodayusWell, one assumes the military bureacracy in charge of issuing gear knows whats its doing, and will issue the precise correct item.
02:37.16Codayus*snicker*
02:37.20Pkekyo|Codayus: I'm not in the army ;)
02:37.31CodayusThen why are you wearing BDUs?
02:37.32bigzerook, i'll admit, the only thing that guide lacks is the grand totals for the whole 1-375
02:37.42Pkekyo|Codayus: why let it go to waste? :p
02:37.48Pkekyo|only using the pants anyways
02:38.04Pkekyo|think I've got a boonie and jacket lying around, but haven't seen it for quite some time
02:38.14CodayusMeh, in that case, who cares?  :-p
02:38.16kenlyriche wants to be concealed while pillaging the british isles
02:38.21Finbigzero: the tables are unnecessary, the big spaces left in almost every row puts the data spotted around the page rather than presented concisely, which is what I assume most people interested in a guide for levelling want
02:38.31Pkekyo|Codayus: I care! :p
02:38.52xyuwow 400 queue for my server qq
02:38.57Finbigzero: maybe I'm just a layout snob?
02:38.58Finfuck me sideways
02:39.00Ellipsiswhat's up with the queues tonight?
02:39.03CodayusTry it, if it seems cold, add some polyprops...
02:39.10bigzeroFin, did you notice the totals at the bottom of each table? I may be not thinking clearly, but I don't see a good way of avoiding the spaces in the tables
02:40.40Pkekyo|Codayus: yeah, I'll try it, won't have much opportunity to add polyprops though...guess I'll have to stay inside as much as possible if the wind blows straight through it :p
02:40.52CodayusYar.
02:41.16CodayusWell, if it is winter weight, it probably won't be AWFUL.  And if it's not, try not to get frost bite on anything important.
02:41.23Finbigzero: yes, I did notice them - and they would be useful if they weren't seperated from the label telling you what they represent by a table with mostly blank cells (with some numbers somewhere)
02:41.25Pkekyo|Codayus: it's a desert BDU ;)
02:41.47Pkekyo|shouldn't get frostbite, I'm guessing only 5c below
02:42.27Finnot having the labels next to the numbers means you have to track the column up with your eye to find out what the number is for, or vice versa, which makes taking in the information an order of complexity more difficult
02:42.34bigzeroFin, what resolution are you running at?
02:42.59Finbigzero: on this monitor, not high... er, the widescreen one under 1600ish
02:43.09bigzerolol, Fin.... you're so lazy
02:43.38Pkekyo|doubt there has been made winter weight desert BDUs...and if there has, someone needs to be shot :p
02:43.41Finyes, I am, but that doesn't change my opinion :)
02:43.42Ellipsissigh
02:43.46Ellipsisundergeared tanks make me cry
02:44.03Finthey make baby jesus cry also
02:44.14Finbaby jesus is crying because god is killing another kitten
02:44.25Pkekyo|did the US army start using multicam yet?
02:44.31Fingod is killing another kitten to show the world NO BAD TANK BAD
02:44.53Finbaby jesus is also crying because he's a little shit that won't shut up
02:45.45Ellipsis...
02:46.05FinITYM ()
02:46.09FinHTH
02:48.08Pkekyo|damnit, it's only 4am
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02:50.08Pkekyo|wtf @ shoot'em up
02:50.56sdoubledid you watch it?
02:51.02Pkekyo|just started
02:51.09kenlyricstop now.
02:51.15kenlyricyou'll never be able to reclaim that time
02:51.20Pkekyo|rofl
02:51.37Pkekyo|I don't mind wasting some time
02:51.48Pkekyo|need a way to stay awake the next four hours
02:53.03buuPkekyo|: Shoot 'em up is hilariously deadpan.
02:53.09buuPkekyo|: IT's so hard to tell if they're being serious or not.
02:53.17Tullerhrm, if you were to categorize gems, where would you put them?
02:53.51Pkekyo|in your mum, Tuller
02:53.57Tullergoodjob
02:54.07Pkekyo|buu: I bloody well hope they're not
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02:55.20RaydenUniso my guild is doing KZ at ~1
02:55.26RaydenUnishould i set my alarm to wake up for 1:30?
02:55.27Pkekyo|"fuck you, you fucking fuckers"rofl
02:57.20Pkekyo|that's just too intelligent
02:57.24fridgidanybody here ever sold books on half.com?
02:57.52AntiarcRoS down.
02:57.59fridgidor knows a fix to this stupid fucking chain d/c problem since 2.3.2
02:58.22RaydenUniEllipsis is flirting with everyone tonight...
02:58.28Ellipsiswhat else is new?
02:59.09RaydenUniyeah i think 1:30 is a good time to wakeup
02:59.13RaydenUnino one is ever on time
02:59.42Pkekyo|the suit on the bridge...any special reason he wants the baby?
03:00.27Daemonagrats Antiarc :)
03:00.40fridgidRaydenUni, you're the reason my raid has a bench.
03:00.45Daemonabamm its gone, byebye darkmoon faire :(
03:00.48RaydenUniwhat?
03:00.58Pkekyo|kenlyric: why does the suit on the bridge want the baby? :p
03:01.06fridgidso we can sub out people like you who show up 30 mins late
03:01.10fridgidthough, i guess its just kara
03:01.22RaydenUnifridgid i wake up at 1am every sunday night and 2 people are online
03:01.25RaydenUnidon't lecture me about being late
03:01.35Finyou're late! this is unacceptable!
03:01.38fridgidyes those lines were a lecture!
03:01.42buuPkekyo|: They eventually explain everything.
03:01.44buuPkekyo|: More or less.
03:02.42fridgidanybody else getting the cable moden crash bug with 2.3.2 that makes wow unplayable?
03:02.57Pkekyo|really? I heard they didn't...at all :p
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03:04.47Arrowmasteri get to have a fun night tonight of reinstalling drivers and reinstalling wow
03:04.58Arrowmasterfucking crashes are driving me nuts
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03:06.18Pkekyo|gz Arrowmaster:)
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03:06.22Ellipsiswoot
03:06.33EllipsisI need to stack more agility
03:06.42EllipsisI totally dodge-tanked a heroic boss
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03:07.25bigzerohehe, what class?
03:07.28Ellipsiswarlock
03:07.33chiperlol
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03:07.50KeiasDirty Warlock
03:07.52Ellipsisour healer disconnected and the tank died, I dodged the first hit and used HS/pot to survive two more
03:07.52KeiasWhat race?
03:07.58Ellipsis...human o.O
03:08.03Keiasboo :(
03:08.20bigzerohumans have increased spirit, no?
03:08.22KeiasI used to have an orc warlock.  He was pretty awesome.
03:09.03Ellipsisuh...yeah
03:09.12Ellipsiswhat the hell does spirit have to do with warlocks x.x
03:09.13bigzerowell, that explains it :-)
03:11.03Ellipsiso.O;;
03:11.31KeiasO_o
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03:19.03bigzeroso i'm installing laminate flooring in my house and it has a 30 year warranty, but unfortunatelly it doesn't cover "Damages by acts of God" :-(
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03:20.22bigzeroso i think i'm pretty much screwed, since everything can be attributed to that
03:22.08Pkekyo|shoot'em up is bloody fucking ridiculous
03:22.35buuhaha
03:22.38buuYeah, it is.
03:23.13Finlink?
03:24.56Pkekyo|lollilops
03:25.43Ellipsiscan has?
03:27.16CIA-403kagaro * r58446 10/branches/GatherMateData/ (5 files): Bugfix to data generator (it was missing some zone data) all fixed now
03:27.52Pkekyo|what's up with the bloody carrots?!
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03:28.00Pkekyo|literally...rofl
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03:31.52Pkekyo|ok, now I just hate this movie
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03:38.37buuThe carrots were the best part!
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03:45.06Neeblerhttp://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5600/1177031329529oa5.jpg
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03:46.07kebinusanHm, I ahte having to say, if you die to airburst Im taking 5dkp away from you
03:46.13Pkekyo|this guy needs to discover fruit
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03:47.33FinI must know of this shootem up! link me, I insist upon it, link me now!
03:47.56Pkekyo|didn't bigz link it earlier
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03:50.39kagaroping Ammo
03:52.57FinOK
03:52.58Fin[Ammo]: ping
03:52.59Pkekyo|this movie is just too bad
04:01.01sdoublehas anyone messed with QueryAuctionItems to pull the whole auctionhouse?
04:02.17sdoubleaccording to a post on the wow forums, you just call it with QueryAuctionItems(true)?
04:02.24NightHawkTheSane"Now, you're the expert. Is this enough to get twenty people plastered?" "Fifteen bottles of vodka? Yeah, that should do it."
04:02.57Ellipsiso.O
04:05.14Pkekyo|well shoot'em up was an absolute piece of shit
04:05.34Pkekyo|thanks for the heads-up, kenlyric
04:07.09Arrowmastersdouble: thats disabled
04:12.44sdoubleI thought they fixed it in 2.3.2
04:13.13sdoublemight explain why I can't get it to work better than the norm
04:15.03Zhinjio|idleGood evening, all you fine folk.
04:16.42Pkekyo|g'morning Zhinjio
04:17.14Neebleryou know what creeps me out? that someone in this channel is either an active LARPER or has LARPed
04:17.22Neeblerodds are
04:17.52Neeblerjust came across a larper video on google video. gave me a good laugh
04:18.16Pkekyo|larp?
04:18.31Neeblerlive action roleplay
04:18.48KivinO.o
04:19.04Neeblerrun around and pretend to throw fireballs at other nerds doing the same. with cardboard swords wrapped in ducttape
04:19.11Kivinrofl
04:19.29Pkekyo|ohlawd
04:19.51Neeblerlook it up on youtube, for some comedic relief
04:20.31Pkekyo|meh
04:20.35Pkekyo|watching death sentance :p
04:20.59Pkekyo|within 10min, some guy almost got decapitated....this movie has potential
04:21.52buuTHIS MOVIE DOESN'T.
04:21.57Pkekyo|which one?
04:22.07Neeblerhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw&feature=related
04:22.20buuPkekyo|: Smoking aces
04:22.44Pkekyo|smoking aces is full of win and awesome!
04:23.08buuPkekyo|: I'm 20 minutes in, I think, and I can't care.
04:23.27Ellipsisinstant lulz, just add internets: http://duggmirror.com/comedy/100_Greatest_Quotes_from_fundamentalist_christian_chat_rooms/
04:23.30Pkekyo|great director, good plot...great production
04:23.53NightHawkTheSanewoo, 1800 unbuffed +heal
04:24.56buuPkekyo|: I am completely unmoved.
04:25.00Pkekyo|"UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy." <-- the sun?
04:25.06Pkekyo|buu: it gets better
04:25.11Pkekyo|ALOT better
04:25.37buuPkekyo|: random prostitutes are fighting.
04:26.20buuMaybe if they say "fuck" and "bitch" a few dozen more times it will become witty and original.
04:26.33Ellipsisthat always works
04:26.44buuWho the hell is "sporazza" or wahtever.
04:26.45Ellipsisclearly you don't watch enough movies to appreciate it
04:26.47Pkekyo|then you're alot further in than 20mins buu
04:26.53Pkekyo|buu: pay attention you twat
04:27.08Pkekyo|that question is answered within the first two minutes of the movie
04:27.19buuI don't pay attention to shitty movies named 'smoking aces'
04:27.33buuI am 29 minutes in
04:28.05Pkekyo|"Gravity: Doesn't exist. If items of mass had any impact of others, then mountains should have people orbiting them."
04:28.12Pkekyo|the movie isn't shitty, and you're a bloody tool
04:28.27buuhahahahah
04:28.31buuTouchy are we?
04:28.40Pkekyo|if you're going to bitch and moan about a movie being shitty without even paying attention for the first two minutes of it, just leave the movie be
04:29.18Ellipsischildren, children
04:29.21Ellipsissettle down
04:29.30Ellipsiswe need to focus on what's important here
04:29.33Ellipsisgiving me attention
04:29.55Pkekyo|rofl
04:30.00Ellipsis=]
04:30.25Ellipsis"I often debate with evolutionists because I believe that they are narrow mindedly and dogmatically accepting evolution without questioning it. I don't really care how God did what He did. I know He did it."
04:31.00Pkekyo|http://www.gametalk.com/talk/spirituality/83313846.htm L M F A O
04:32.10buuI think the real question is, how do you verify someone is an fbi agent?
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04:33.27Finthey have a mark behind their left ear
04:33.29Ellipsis...I think the real question is why are the vowels pink on the page Pkekyo| linked?
04:33.32Finshaped like an X
04:33.44FinI saw it on The 4400
04:33.54buuFin: Oh, ok.
04:33.55Finwait, actually that might be the agents from the future
04:34.12buuFin: I don't think I made it far enough for agent's of the future in 4400
04:34.26Pkekyo|Ellipsis: they are?
04:34.32Fineither a mark behind their left ear shaped like an X, or they walk with a slight limp on tuesdays
04:34.36Finone of the two
04:34.44FinI am almost 100% sure on that
04:34.50EllipsisPkekyo|: look carefully (or read the source)
04:34.51Pkekyo|"I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie" bwahahahah
04:34.55Ellipsisit's pretty obvious on my screen
04:35.05Pkekyo|my browser must be blocking the feature for some reason
04:35.22KivinI honestly don't care about your rights. If it were up to me, all Atheists would be burnt at the stake and or cast into a river with weights tied to their ankles and or placed before the firing squad, etc
04:35.33Ellipsisshouldn't be, it's just using <font> tags
04:35.53Pkekyo|all the text is plain white to me
04:36.01buuI bet that's a really hard scene to act.
04:38.31CIA-403ackis * r58451 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
04:38.31CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
04:38.31CIA-4- Update goldthorn tea and Festive Red Pant Suit
04:39.03EllipsisPkekyo|: the entire post?
04:39.21Ellipsisread the source, it's full of font tag spam x.x
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04:41.42Ellipsis"Deoxyribonucleic Acid, for example... sounds impressive, right? But have you ever seen what happens if you put something in acid? It dissolves! If we had all this acid in our cells, we'd all dissolve! So much for the Theory of Evolution, Check MATE!"
04:42.05ZiconWhat are you people quoting? This sounds hilarious.
04:42.49Pkekyo|Ellipsis: yes, it's all white, the entire post
04:42.58Ellipsisyou're crazy Pkekyo|
04:43.04Pkekyo|no I'm not
04:43.12Pkekyo|Zicon: christian fanatics
04:43.15Ellipsiswhat browser are you using that strips font tags?
04:43.28Pkekyo|"What does a functioning brain have to do with the Bible?"
04:43.32Pkekyo|I'm using Opera
04:43.38Ellipsislet me check it in opera then
04:43.46KivinHow can anyone beleive we evolved from monkeys heres a few questions for people who beleive that
04:43.51Kivinhow come we cant speak monkey
04:43.59Kivindo you really not believe the bible it says we were created in seven days not millions of years
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04:44.17EllipsisPkekyo|: it still shows pink letters in opera for me, your configuration fails x.x
04:44.40Pkekyo|if it's all pink, then I have to disagree, my config is full of win :p
04:44.46Ellipsisit's not all pink
04:45.04Pkekyo|"You are banned. You are not a Christian for Christians don't accuse brothers and sisters in Christ of being non-Christian." bwahahah
04:45.20Pkekyo|they are all the same color here
04:45.44Ellipsisread the source and you'll see that I'm right :P
04:45.56Ellipsis"To say the Bible was written by men and may contain inaccuracies completely contradicts the word of the Bible."
04:46.06Pkekyo|rofl
04:46.35Pkekyo|"A woman wants to abort a rape child? She should have thought of that before she walked down that dark alley without a male prescence, not to mention she should have thought before putting on revealing attire." /shrug
04:47.03Kivinhttp://flatearth.meetup.com/ "Meet other local supporters of the Flat Earth Society. The sphere theory is a hoax!! So is the Moon propaganda NASA espouses. Don't be fooled anymore."
04:47.42WobworkEllipsis: brilliant
04:47.58Pkekyo|this shit is just like the christian kid in clerks 2 :p
04:48.34Wobworklinky?
04:48.44KeiasElias was awesome
04:48.48Ellipsishttp://duggmirror.com/comedy/100_Greatest_Quotes_from_fundamentalist_christian_chat_rooms/
04:49.17KivinThe only solution we have to stop gays from recruiting other people is to cut off the source. They need to be taken to specialized containment centers where they will be forced to become straight and accept Jesus as thier savior and to repent from their disgusting, wicket, hatful, devilish ways.
04:49.37KivinThose that refuse to go can either be forced, or banished from society in other specialized communities where they have no connetion to the outside world at all. Most would die of AIDS anyway. Anyone who refused any of the answers to make them better would have to be killed or banished.
04:49.44NightHawkTheSane"You can't fire me! I don't work in this van!"
04:50.43EllipsisI like the people who think that english translations of the bible are the "original" and all others are inaccurate
04:50.59Pkekyo|"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK."
04:51.06Pkekyo|agreed Ellipsis
04:51.39Pkekyo|"
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04:51.39Pkekyo|MehFundie!
04:51.40Pkekyo|Me and like-minded Christian students are trying to organize a mock stoning of openly gay students at our campus. We will be using crumpled up gray/brown construction paper to represent rocks, and will recite bible verses in opposition to their sinful nature. We will throw a volley or two of these "rocks" at every Gay person we happen to encounter that day."
04:52.06KeiasROFL
04:52.22KeiasI hope they get their ass kicked by a gay guy
04:52.45ShirikI do like the comment about entropy proving evolution wrong
04:53.02ShirikI think people that don't know science should be forbidden from quoting the laws of the respective practices
04:53.06Pkekyo|"Apes are just creatures twisted by Satan to mock Jesus by giving EVILolition credibility." this is just too good
04:53.09Ellipsisoh man
04:53.33EllipsisI don't want to paste this one in here, but wait til you get to the guy who argues that any sexual act is immoral if a body part (e.g. leg) is sticking out
04:54.00Pkekyo|err...sticking out? of what? O.o
04:54.16Keiaslink it Ellipsis
04:54.25Keiasor query me it
04:54.42Ellipsisthe link is a mile long, I'll msg it
04:54.46Pkekyo|"My qualification is I'm a God-fearing college dropout redneck hick landlord who goes after darwinism with freaking vengeance....and I just happen to have the truth on my side."
04:54.49Pkekyo|share with me too lol
04:55.18Pkekyo|cheers
04:57.01Pkekyo|this is awesome
04:57.04Pkekyo|you saved my night Ellipsis
04:57.09Ellipsis=]
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04:59.03Keiasoh noes
04:59.09Pkekyo|"If the Bible is wrong when it tells us it is infallible, then it contradicts itself. If it contradicts itself, then it is unreliable. If it is unreliable, then our faith is totally shattered and Christianity is a lie. You need to seriously reconsider your logic." bwahahahahaha
05:00.06Wobwork"I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie"
05:00.59Ellipsis"Jesus is not a Jew. Jesus was Jewish."
05:02.38Shirik"Server is too busy"
05:02.39Shirikqq
05:03.06Pkekyo|"It happens, but most female rape victims often bring it on themselves." I just love those statements
05:03.52Pkekyo|"Sorry but scientists have just shown that mice DNA is more similar to humans than human DNA. So would evolutionists then declare that humans came from mice? Probably. That's because most people can't think for themselves and are confused about reality. That's why they believe anything scientists say."
05:03.52Pkekyo|oh sweet irony<3
05:04.01Ellipsisahaha
05:04.08Ellipsismice DNA > human DNA?
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05:04.28Wobwork"A missionary I knew watched a bullet headed for him do a RIGHT ANGLE before it got to him."
05:04.30Wobworkwin
05:04.35Pkekyo|"There is not a single passage or concept in the Bible that would be offensive to any human on the planet." right :)
05:06.03Arrowmasternow if that would have said cruise missle instead of bullet i would believe it
05:07.01kebinusanIs there a mod I can use to temporarily allow guild bank funds to be used for repairs, that would easily toggle it on and off for a number of ranks
05:07.19Pkekyo|"No one knows what's happening until the flood comes (according to Matthew). And the flood is here - it refers to the apocalypse. There is a huge amount of supporting evidence on the site. For example, there is evidence for the wh0re of Babylon due to a 666 mile long penis in Mexico." bwahahahahahahahahh
05:07.20Shirikomg some of these quotes are from gaiaonline
05:07.21Shirikhaha
05:07.23kebinusanPkekyo|: hm, someone needs to re-read the old testament
05:07.45Pkekyo|kebinusan: someone needs to introduce themselves to mr 12gauge
05:08.02Ellipsis"Now some people might object to killing atheists for there (and obviously it is there and not thier as they are not whos but whats ) organs but think of all the full human persons that would benifit from the organs and the medical research that could be done on these non-persons."
05:08.19Ellipsisnow you guys read that parenthetical carefully and tell me if you can make any more sense of it than I can?
05:08.19Pkekyo|"According to evolutionists, it's a fact that aliens ruled the planet before the dinosaurs because that can't be disproven." >.<
05:08.50Pkekyo|Ellipsis: nah, the rambling christian is just that, a rambling christian :
05:09.40Pkekyo|" No doubt someone will object, saying something obviously ridiculous like, but atheists are persons."
05:10.04Shirik"just wondering if this was god trying to keep me away. also, should i not do my homework to stay good to jesus mk thanks"
05:10.55Pkekyo|"In spite of the fact that God of the Bible is proven in the 4 Step Perfect Proof, they still remain shutting their minds down."
05:11.32Ellipsis"God revealed to me two things about the timing of the rapture. God specifically told me 2007 was the year, because I was only going to have from 3 to 3 1/2 years to spread the message after my book was published."
05:11.44Ellipsiswell darn...I guess we missed it
05:11.59kebinusanwow these are great
05:12.09Pkekyo|http://i2.tinypic.com/2h4hs9d.jpg
05:12.39kebinusanso does anyone know of a mod I can use to temporarily allow guild bank funds to be used for repairs, that would easily toggle it on and off for a number of ranks
05:12.49kebinusanor is it even possible I guess
05:13.13kebinusanId rather use repairs as a reward than an all the time thing
05:13.17Pkekyo|kebinusan: the answer is the name of a song by Queens of the Stone Age...go figure
05:13.32[SW]Dodgeanyone knows the slash commands for Tekkobs TourGuide? or how to useĂŸ
05:13.35[SW]Dodge?
05:14.15Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
05:14.46durcyn[SW]Dodge: don't believe there is a slashcommand..however the addon is disabled by default, so if you don't see it, that's likely why
05:14.53[SW]Dodgenope .(
05:15.09[SW]Dodgehow to enable?
05:15.16durcynexit to character screen
05:16.15[SW]Dodgeah ok ty =)
05:17.48Pkekyo|I'd wish christian fundamentalists would start suicidebombings
05:18.01KeiasI don't
05:18.08KeiasToo many christians
05:18.13KeiasI'd get blown up in a mall or something
05:18.19EllipsisI wish they'd do it to each other and leave the rest of us alone
05:18.26Pkekyo|they need some shitty pr as well, the muslims make them look too good
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05:19.09KeiasYeah, they can blow themselves up
05:19.10KeiasThat'll work.
05:19.48Neeblerdoes anyone recall the command to use the arena point calculator in thraebot?
05:20.02Pkekyo|"Satan loves homosexuals.. And will usually set them up with good careers in something Satan is in control of i.e.. Entertainment.. any form of the Media.. Satan wants them to grow.. The more homosexuals there are the more souls Satan gets to join in a Furnace of Fire.."
05:20.08Pkekyo|!ap 134
05:20.08ThraeBotPkekyo|: Arena points from a rating of 134 is, 2v2: 33, 3v3: 38, 5v5: 43
05:20.15Pkekyo|!ar 134
05:20.16ThraeBotPkekyo|: Arena rating from 134 points is, 2v2: 739, 3v3: 630, 5v5: 548
05:20.17Neebler!ap 2079
05:20.18ThraeBotNeebler: Arena points from a rating of 2079 is, 2v2: 875, 3v3: 1013, 5v5: 1151
05:20.26Neebleryay
05:23.24Diaothe bot is off though Neebler
05:23.28Diaounless thrae fixed it
05:23.36Diaocause iirc Xinhuan's bot returns a different value
05:24.30ShirikWhat makes you think that Xinhuan's isn't off?
05:24.39Pkekyo|!points 2079
05:24.40XinhuanYou cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).
05:24.49Pkekyo|!rating 2079
05:24.50Xinhuan2079 rating gives 1151(5s), 1013(3s) and 875(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
05:24.54Diaobecause i checked it against the blizzard site :P
05:25.04Pkekyo|he fixed it
05:25.06Diaoand if the blizzard calculator is wrong then i don't know where to turn
05:25.16Diaoah k
05:27.35Neebleroh didn't know the wow website had a calculaotr
05:27.53ulicon the armory
05:27.57Diaoyeah
05:28.03Diaoarmory arena calc
05:28.21Diaohttp://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml
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05:59.05Pkekyo|hmm...17 hours awake...and another 17 to go
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06:05.25xai__Hi there! I am using RatingBuster and get an error if i login with my paladin ("UTF-8 string terminated early" from StatLogicLib) and RatingBuster doesn't work. But if i login with my wariior it runs! can anybody help me?
06:05.29ZhinjioSemi-daily call for someone willing to do some code review and look over what I have so far. just /msg me if you're interested.
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06:20.26Pkekyo|~time
06:20.27purlfrom memory, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.01.14  6:20:27 GMT
06:24.29Fin~recursion
06:24.30purlTo understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
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06:30.46Paene~ask2ask
06:30.47purlhmm... ask2ask is people who ask if they may ask a question which is a question itself. So why don't ask your real question in the first place? ;-)
06:31.39Pkekyo|I'm off to school
06:31.40Pkekyo|laters lads
06:31.45Pkekyo|- and lasses
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06:44.57Pkekyo|Paene: what's the relevance of ~ask2ask there? :p
06:46.29Paenelol, none, just messing with purl :)
06:47.34Pkekyo|started wondering if I had ignored someone :p
06:47.38Pkekyo|and further, if tha tis even possible
06:48.08Pkekyo|s/tha tis/that is/
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06:49.53Pkekyo|well, off to school for real this time :p
06:50.02Pkekyo|g'day to ye'all, lads and lasses
06:52.12Fin~ask
06:52.12purlQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
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06:59.47Lukiandoes ratingbuster use it's own calculations?
07:00.12LukianAvoidance doesn't seem to be factoring shield block rating correctly (yes, avoidhasblock is on)
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07:01.38Xinhuanyes, ratingbuster uses its own calculations
07:02.01Xinhuanyes, ratingbuster's author isn't very active, and yes that avoidance calculation is probably not correct
07:02.18CIA-403daviesh * r58455 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
07:02.18CIA-4AtlasLoot:
07:02.18CIA-4- Updated the release notes, made the WishList self sorting, fixed refresh issues when deleting items from the wishlist, added text messages for when items are added to or already in the wishlist.
07:02.29LukianIt seems to be ignoring shield block rating enchant for shield
07:03.18Xinhuanthat is probably because when we write such addons, we painstakingly read each line of the tooltip, and figure out what the item does by reverse engineering the text
07:03.46Lukianhehe
07:03.51Xinhuanif the enchant text isn't a "normal standard" pattern that describes what it does, then the addon has to manually code in something for it
07:03.51Lukianfun ^_^
07:04.02Xinhuanin 7 languages too, btw
07:04.08Lukianindeed
07:12.48CIA-403paene * r58456 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (7 files):
07:12.48CIA-4Cryolysis2:
07:12.48CIA-4- Used Babble-Zone-2.2 for tooltips
07:12.48CIA-4- Removed city locales that were no longer needed
07:12.48CIA-4- Updated untranslated locales with the latest translation set
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07:13.35CIA-403paene * r58457 10Cryolysis2/buttons/tooltip.lua:
07:13.35CIA-4Cryolysis2:
07:13.35CIA-4- Used Babble-Zone-2.2 for tooltips (didn't commit the first time)
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07:30.07Xinhuanhttp://www.variuse.de/feroxtgs2/
07:30.17XinhuanTeron Gorefiend Simulator
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07:30.20Xinhuanlol!
07:30.31XinhuanThe flash game is actually harder than the real fight SO YOU CAN ALL STOP SUCKING NOW
07:30.39Ellipsisso I wonder how they manage this
07:31.07Ellipsisthe "call of the grave" curse on the time-lost mobs in skettis (shadow damage after 60 sec) tooltips for 700 damage when it's on you
07:31.18Ellipsisbut when someone in your party checks the tooltip for it from out of range, it tooltips for 10
07:32.50Diaoo_O
07:33.46Ellipsisyeah...I can't quite figure that one out
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07:41.39CIA-403gagorian * r58458 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua:
07:41.39CIA-4DrDamage:
07:41.39CIA-4- Fixed Vengeance applying twice to holy damage abilities
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07:44.22CIA-403hegarol * r58459 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
07:44.22CIA-4AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:44.22CIA-4- ZA update
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07:57.05CIA-403gagorian * r58460 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.toc):
07:57.05CIA-4DrDamage:
07:57.05CIA-4- TOC version 1.2.3
07:57.05CIA-4- Fixed Ruin in zhTW
07:57.05CIA-4- Removed some koKR crap from Mage.lua, the correct place for that is Babble-Spell-2.2
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08:05.29ArrowmasterEllipsis: i think theres quite a few buff/debuff tooltips that do that
08:07.05Arrowmasteri remember a very long time ago i was raiding bwl for my first time with a guild i wasnt in and they kept sending their tanks into lbrs for the FR buff for vael
08:07.28Arrowmasteri swear i remember it showing some really low number like 23 instead of 230 when they were out of range
08:08.16MegalonArrowmaster: wasn't it +70 fr?
08:08.24Arrowmasterthe lbrs buff?
08:08.30Megalonyea
08:08.55Arrowmasterit was for a number large enough that the tanks wouldnt put on much or any fr if i remember right
08:09.36NightHawkTheSanethe lbrs buff was like 83 or 86 fr or some crazy weird number like that
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08:10.47Arrowmasterhmm 83 it seems
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08:11.37evlProably old but
08:11.38evlhttp://www.variuse.de/feroxtgs2/
08:11.40evlepic fucking game :D
08:11.59Arrowmasteryeah old
08:12.43Arrowmasteri bitched at my guild about it being broken in a few different aspects when some body mentioned everybody should play it until they can beat it everytime
08:13.14Arrowmastertabs kinda broken and i swear the cooldowns are too long
08:13.51evlyeah, they are
08:13.54evland the hp is way too much
08:14.07evlwith volley -> shaclke -> 2x lance
08:14.11Arrowmasteronly way i could do it was with starting with aoe then shackle
08:14.11evlyou should have volley up again
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08:14.46Arrowmastercouldnt kill them fast enough with shackle lance aoe shackle
08:15.00durcyni've never had a problem with ghosts on the actual fight.. can't beat the simulator to save my life
08:15.04NightHawkTheSanek, kael trash blows
08:15.30Arrowmastereven though the one time ive gotten the debuff on gorefiend i killed my constructs before they even got halfway to the raid
08:15.56Arrowmasterwe did kael lastnight, trash has been nerfed again
08:16.13NightHawkTheSanewe're just starting kael now *shrug*
08:16.15Arrowmasterstill blows though
08:16.26buuHA HA WE ALMOST DID VASHJ
08:16.35buuBut healers decided not to show up.
08:16.37buuIt was cool.
08:16.43GagorianWell that game is way easy though
08:16.46Arrowmasterbefore 2.3.2 there was another group of 6 mobs in the middle of the hallways
08:16.49GagorianEven if it's harder than normal
08:17.09GagorianNormal as in in-game
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08:18.02Arrowmasterbuu: yeah well we were doing hyjal and one of our healers decided to goto sleep at 5pm because he was up all day drinking and playing wow or something
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08:18.14Arrowmasterhad to goto TK instead
08:19.47Arrowmasterand then we failed on kael for various reasons
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08:20.21Arrowmasterone of them being me crashing and halfing to restart right as the fight started
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08:20.42sbArrowmaster: uhm how many healers in MH?
08:20.46Arrowmasterme being the FR tank for the astromancer chick it wasnt very good
08:21.24Arrowmasteri think we had 5 when we wiped on anatheron trash and left for TK
08:21.45sbmh tk w/ 5 healers? :)
08:22.44sbi'd say with healer setup that fits kael you could easily clear mh (and thats 6-7 :p)
08:22.46Xinhuanastromancer fight doesn't need FR?
08:23.02sbXinhuan: kaelthas astromancer
08:23.09Xinhuanoh
08:23.17Arrowmasteri dont really remember the exact group comp but i think we got atleast 1 maybe 2 more healers that werent keyed for hyjal when we went to TK
08:23.24sbahh okay ;)
08:23.24Arrowmastercap.....
08:23.28sbgood point
08:23.32Arrowmasterwhatever the fuck that bitches name is
08:23.36durcyncapernian
08:23.38sbmh - you use FR on cap. tank?
08:23.38Arrowmasterthat wont fucking stand still
08:24.02Arrowmasteryeah i wear like 280 FR
08:24.05Arrowmasterand tank her
08:24.28Arrowmasterin phase3 with just 1 healer i cant be killed
08:24.57sbbut you wont do any serious damage :p
08:25.23Arrowmasteryeah i stuck on dmg that fight with only like 800 +dmg
08:25.40durcynjust soulstone yourself and helfire after she's dead, then swap gear.
08:25.42sbwe usually have 2 locks on cap. - and 2 healers (in case thaladred has some bad day...) - no FR
08:26.08Xinhuanyou don't need 280 FR, 150 is enough
08:26.19sband they shoot cap. down to 40-50% until all other adds are dead :o
08:26.23sbso no wasted dps here
08:26.27Arrowmasterim just still used to when we were learning the fight
08:26.43sbmeh - wtb more healers
08:26.59Arrowmastersrsly
08:27.11Arrowmasterwe did BT on thusday with like 23 people
08:27.21Arrowmasterthursday
08:27.32sbexcellent id... MH + supremus 1 day, 2nd day 1 ros wipe (okay, could be better, but still fine)  - 2 days left for ros (would be 2nd kill...) and mother :/
08:27.47sbbut no healers for next 2 days :o
08:28.15Kalroth><
08:28.41evlwe clear on friday so I just sit in shat being emo cause there's nothing left to kill
08:28.59Arrowmasterwe went and did winterchill then BT one day earlyer this month just so we could get the only priest online keyed for BT so we could have fort for naj
08:29.16Kalrothevl: Makes me glad we still can't clear it on one raid day :p
08:29.40Kalroththursday we clear up to Illidan, sunday it's illidan + hyjal
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08:37.32evlwell we used to rasid 7 days a week so
08:37.38evl3 is making people go nuts :P
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08:45.00Kalrothevl: wtf did you raid for 7 days?
08:45.23evleverything :D
08:45.42Kalrothwe've always been on a 4 day schedule and we cleared BT over a month ago, I can't imagine raiding 7 days a week, hell even 6 days :)
08:45.55CIA-4037destiny * r58461 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: koKR Update
08:46.12evlwhat can I say, people like raiding :P
08:46.23KalrothRaiding or farming? :)
08:46.33KalrothYou still clear SSC/TK on a weekly basis?
08:49.13evlno
08:49.17evlthat's the problem
08:49.28evlthere's no wipefests anymore
08:49.48ggilbertKalroth: ugh, we did it for the last two weeks to do recruitment tryouts. It's an evil schedule.
08:50.08Grumevl: how many hrs a day?
08:50.24evlfrom 18:30 to 22-ish
08:51.06Grumand what do you clear in 7 days? O.o
08:51.10Kalrothggilbert: We did TK 4 times after first Kael'thas kill, before going fulltime Hyjal/BT, we've only cleared the place 3-4 since then. Twice for recruits, twice because we had nothing else. :)
08:51.34KalrothKael'thas is still the best encounter in the game, hands down.
08:51.40Grumno Illidan :P
08:51.43Grum<3
08:51.46ramoz11th of January
08:51.48KalrothIllidan is way too simple
08:51.53ramozis this correct english typing?
08:52.14ggilbertI think we've only killed Kael twice. Maybe three times.
08:52.15Grumyes its ok ramoz, but January 11th would also be valid i think
08:52.53ramozhm, ok
08:53.13Kalrothif 1,21,31 then "st", if 2,22 then "nd", if 3,23 then "rd" else "th"
08:53.14Kalroth:)
08:53.29ramozyes, i know that
08:53.46ramozit was more "can i write it like this in a formal letter?"
08:54.56GrumKalroth: i agree on illidan being too simple
08:55.13Grumhad my first go there this week and ... so little can go wrong so it seemed ..
08:55.25Grumalso did Archimonde for the first time yesterday, that is a wonky fight :)
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08:55.43Kalrothramoz: Oh okay. I prefer "11th of January" over "11th January", but as long as it writes the month as a word, it's fine.
08:56.25KalrothGrum: We had 2-3 corpses on our first kill and 7 dead on second kill. It's just as forgiving as Kael'thas :)
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08:56.51KalrothArchimonde is great, only takes 2-3 deaths to wipe the raid
08:56.59Grum2 will mostly do it yeah
08:57.07Grumdepending if it just came after the first or not :)
08:57.28Grumi love getting airbursted all the way into that big tree ^^
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08:57.39KalrothI hope you're not the MT :P
08:57.46Grumnah holy priest :P
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08:57.54Grumso i fluttered down again =)
08:58.15Kalrothramoz: http://www.usingenglish.com/resources/letter-writing.html it doesn't say anything about a specific format, just that the month has to be a word
08:59.48Grumbut it was fun, the RL warned for it and it actually happened to a first-timer :)
09:04.32Xinhuani wonder how annoying it will be if Blind actually blacked out your screen
09:04.43Wobin_hehe
09:04.55Wobin_reminds me of the eyepatch I coded for a MUD once.
09:05.06Wobin_It set the colwidth of your terminal to half =P
09:05.48Wobin_I'm pretty sure Mikma or someone made the sunglasses out of HHGTTG, in which it puts up a black screen when you gain aggro =)
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09:08.54GrumXinhuan: screen except for UI elements ofc :)
09:09.07Grumlike being drunk :)
09:09.20Xinhuanya
09:09.26Xinhuanjust resize the viewport to 1x1
09:09.30ggilberttell me, is anyone else as anal as I am when it comes to measuring out UI layouts?
09:09.53Xinhuanumm i have guild members that took out rulers to measure stuff on their LCD screens in straight lines
09:10.02ggilbertso yes.
09:10.02Xinhuanuntil i told them there's this mod called "Align"
09:10.08ggilbertoooooh?
09:10.13SroshAlign owns.
09:10.38ggilbertThat could be awesome. Since I'm just about to the ruler  segment of my evening
09:10.57xai__hi, anybody there, who can help me by an error get from ratingbuster/StatLogicLib/utf8?
09:11.08Antiarcggilbert: I stick my nose way up against the screen and make sure everything lines up to the pixel
09:11.47syerenAntiarc, make an addon which you can determine the size of the grid and make all the UI elements snap to certain lines of the grid.
09:11.53NightHawkTheSanewhy do t5 shaman healing shoulders have less stats than the t4? ><
09:12.08NightHawkTheSanewell, base stats, that is
09:12.10ggilbertAntiarc: I've been using fubars as a poor mans ruler for the simple stuff :)
09:12.35ggilbertand then kruler for the more distance dependent jobs
09:12.35Antiarcsyeren: If I was writing a layout helper mod, I'd probably just implement Photoshop's ruler lines with snap-to functionality.
09:12.53syerenThat would be far better :p
09:13.01GrumWe'll see it tomorrow i assume Antiarc?
09:13.05syerenDidn't know if you had used Photoshop or not, so didn't know whether or not to refrence them.
09:13.09Ziconantiarc: That would be awesome-sexy.
09:13.19SroshBy the way, Antiarc, what's your plans with Sanity?
09:13.42syerenIt's the best part about addons, having to go into the SavedVariables to make them pixel perfect -_-
09:13.44AntiarcSrosh: I'd like to completely rewrite it, but I don't have time
09:14.00ggilbertAntiarc: I ended up trashing everything and started from scratch to see if it'd clear up my freeze
09:14.03SroshToo bad. I really like it.
09:14.06Antiarcggilbert: Find it?
09:14.11Antiarcggilbert: Also, cpu profiling?
09:14.16ggilbertNo clue. It wasn't at all predictabe
09:14.23SroshAnd still use it; hope it doesn't break.
09:14.33AntiarcPeople seem to keep it breathing :)
09:14.43AntiarcI just need to do a major rewrite. It's old, ugly, crufty code
09:14.45xai__yesterday it works, but today if i enter world with my paladin i get this error: StatLogicLib\UTF8\utf8.lua:84: UTF-8 string terminated early". just on paladin, not my warrior.
09:15.11Grumand you have no stacktrace?
09:15.25Gruminstall proper debug addons'n'stuff :)
09:17.10xai__u mean buggrabber?
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09:20.19Xinhuan..
09:20.34Xinhuanremember when i said i feel like writing a mod to conut the number of legendaries linked on /2 yesterday?
09:20.47Xinhuanthe /2 channel is currently full of thunderfuries again
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09:20.55Xinhuan... in spanish, french and german languages.
09:21.04Xinhuan(on a US server)
09:23.06Keiasat least they can't linked the Nicker anymore
09:23.09Keiaslink* even
09:25.02GrumXinhuan: sigh, people are so easily bored arent they? ><
09:25.24Xinhuanwell i blame wowhead or whoeveer it is that allows you to copy paste links
09:25.27Fincan someone tell me what class / spec goes for gear "of the Falcon", please?
09:26.00eXemplarit's worse when someone gets a link of martin thunder
09:27.40xai__i realy don't know, but i think buggrabber has a bug :O. The output from basicly error generatet by the error() function, not realy by a bug. but buggrabber hide this message now and don't show anything. ratingbuster dosn't work yet. (sorry for my bad english, i hope u understand)
09:28.13SroshOf course it got bugs, it grabs them! (scnr) =P
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09:31.12xai__i think the problem is, that its not a error in lua. utf8 lib generats this use error() function. i have no idea how i can generate a stacktrace of this.
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09:33.26RaydenUniso
09:33.31RaydenUniattumen takes forever when i die early on
09:33.54RaydenUniand you only have 3 dps
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09:40.16ShenDKI've been trying on sandbox to add folders to a project, but whenever i try to add a folder in tortoisesvn it says there's nothing to import, and plenty of files in that folder. Any ideas how I go about doing that? Or should I make a project for each of the subfolders?
09:42.07RaydenUnidangit
09:42.11RaydenUnistill haven't killed shade
09:42.22RaydenUnione of our healers left right before him so we skipped him :(
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09:44.09ShenDKAm I in the right channel, or is there a special channel for devs with minimal in-game chat?
09:46.54Zhinjioman, that was some whacked net trouble for a bit there.
09:47.04Finbigzero: could you add an option to mirror to only show the comparison tooltip when a key is being held down?
09:47.15Fin+please
09:48.11RaydenUniwhat ShenDK ?
09:48.22RaydenUnithis is a mod dev channel
09:48.31ShenDKkk thanks
09:48.37RaydenUnibut i find it has high quality gameplay talk often
09:48.43RaydenUniif you need dev help this is the place
09:48.45Finalso cock
09:48.53nevcairielwhining about your raid isnt high quality :P
09:48.57[Ammo]mornig girls
09:49.02[Ammo]but it's good fun ;)
09:49.03Finsee, cock
09:49.12ShenDKok, waiting for someone who knows the answer to my question then
09:49.20[Ammo]what question
09:49.27ShenDKI've been trying on sandbox to add folders to a project, but whenever i try to add a folder in tortoisesvn it says there's nothing to import, and plenty of files in that folder. Any ideas how I go about doing that? Or should I make a project for each of the subfolders?
09:49.41Finwhat have you tried so far?
09:49.50[Ammo]what I usually do is go into the repo browser
09:49.52[Ammo]create the folders
09:49.55[Ammo]check the folder out
09:49.57[Ammo]dump the files in em
09:50.00[Ammo]add em
09:50.01[Ammo]and commit
09:50.40ShenDKok cause i made teh root folder, checked out, added teh folder structure with files in them and tried to commit.. will try again with an empty structure
09:51.38FinOK
09:51.40[Ammo]does your root folder have a green V
09:51.55Xinhuanalternatively, i just import an entiee folder directly, assuming you have auto-props set
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09:51.59[Ammo]just put all your files etc in there
09:52.01Fincan you tell me where I can see a copy of the instructions you're following to import a folder?
09:52.18Xinhuanbrb clearing the fun trash to council
09:52.19[Ammo]select em and rightclick go to tort and add
09:52.38[Ammo]after that your folder should be have a red ! mark
09:52.44[Ammo]or something
09:52.49[Ammo]at least blue +'s
09:52.57[Ammo]then hit the tort commit and done
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09:53.12ShenDKhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners but it doesnt mention folders
09:54.25ShenDKseems like going into the repo broser and creating the folders does the trick :)
09:54.30FinI suggest having a little search perhaps
09:54.33Fina wee searchette
09:54.43[Ammo]or follow my instructions :p
09:55.11ShenDKyeah doing that next
09:55.18ShenDKi like having more ways to do the same thing
09:55.21Finsure, that works if you don't mind giving instructions
09:55.28[Ammo]I gave em alreay
09:55.30[Ammo]so shrug
09:55.39FinI saw! that was very nice of you
09:55.46ShenDKit was :) thanks
09:56.02[Ammo]now I'm going back to my coffee
09:56.05[Ammo]coffee > you guys
09:56.56Cheads=)
09:57.03FinI challenge coffee to a duel!
09:57.19Finno, wait, I don't
09:57.54Finmaybe we can come to a compromise
09:57.58Fintalk it over
09:58.33ShenDK@[Ammo] I actually tried that first, but I got an error back that there was nothing to add. But going to repo browser and adding the folders there worked like i expected right click|tortoise|add to do
09:59.27ShenDKFin, the only other article on here was svn for idiots, which was about the commandline svn
09:59.42ShenDKBut it works now
09:59.47ShenDKthanks :D
10:00.01Fingood good
10:02.53GrumRaydenUni: which shade? :P (people should jsut say akama or aran!)
10:03.36nevcairielboth wouldnt really require extra healing, so i dont know what he wants :P
10:03.44Grumindeed :D
10:04.01nevcairielakama is piss easy
10:04.05nevcairieland aran anyway
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10:08.41CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r58462 10oRA3/ (modules/ReadyCheck.lua oRA3.lua):
10:08.41CIA-4oRA3:
10:08.41CIA-4- remove some core frame stuff
10:08.41CIA-4- do not report offline people as not ready, make them offline, improving upon the blizzard check \o/
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10:19.39nevcairielXinhuan: something is wrong with _routes
10:20.02nevcairieli dont get any minimap lines, and when i herb something, suddenly a line appears that seems to go to nowhere
10:20.48Zhinjiohmm, working fine for me.
10:21.01Zhinjiothe latter is it attempting to "re-route" when you add in a new node to an existing route
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10:21.56nevcairielmaybe i need to recreate the route
10:21.59Xinhuan^
10:22.07nevcairielbut some update broke it :P
10:22.16nevcairielit looks fine on the mainmap
10:22.29Xinhuangrum did some minimap updates to the algo to cache data
10:22.32Xinhuanit could be defective
10:22.56Grummmm
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10:23.47Xinhuanparticularly if the coordID doesn't have a zone
10:23.51Xinhuanor the zone is ""
10:23.56Grumthat doesnt matter
10:24.09Grumor .. mm no shouldn't
10:24.19CIA-403morgalm * r58463 10MorgDKP/ (LootTablet.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc):
10:24.19CIA-4MorgDKP:
10:24.19CIA-4- Fix nil link error
10:24.28Grumif there is no zone than getXY->toyards will also not work
10:24.38Xinhuanit does
10:24.48Xinhuancarto/tourist assumes you mean the current zone
10:24.52Xinhuanwhen you dont pass in a zone
10:25.00Grumstill fine right?
10:25.13Xinhuanthe key wouldn't have a zone
10:25.14Grumi dont tell them the zone in either case
10:25.14Xinhuandunno
10:25.21Grumi just use the zone in the key to make it unique
10:25.40Grumso that 15/15 in different zones actually ends up being different world-coordinates
10:26.05Grumand if _Routes hasnt got a zone at that moment it cant even function
10:26.21Grumas it then would not be able to store/find any data as that is done by zone as well
10:27.27Xinhuannev, you're saying minimap lines dont' draw on minimap?
10:27.30Xinhuannevcairiel*
10:27.52nevcairielthey do draw, but they seem to be nowhere near my real nodes
10:28.04nevcairielwhen i was flying around, i found some line fragments somewhere
10:28.14Grumwhere were you flying around?
10:28.16Xinhuanbut the ones on the worldmap are fine?
10:28.21nevcairielyeah worldmap is fine
10:28.27Xinhuanthen its to do with grum's minimap cache
10:28.31Grumyeah has to
10:28.33Grumbut i dont know why
10:28.47Grumthe only reason i can think of is that there is a zone with a ';' in the name ><
10:28.52Grumbut that isnt the case i hope :P
10:29.15Grumnevcairiel: does a reloadui fix it?
10:29.26Xinhuansee if you can reproduce it nevcairiel
10:29.32nevcairielterokkar, first i was in skettis, no lines at all, i herbed one, and a new line appeared in the direction from skettis to shat aprox. then when i was at that plateu above shat, i found line fragements that could be some half route :P
10:29.55Grumif not, could you change the colors of some routes and identify which one it is
10:30.04nevcairieli only have one route
10:30.08nevcairielin terokkar
10:30.11Grumk
10:30.15Grumand it doesnt show at all atm?
10:30.20Grum(except for that odd line fragment?)
10:31.06nevcairieli re-created the route, and it seems to work now *shrug
10:31.08CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r58464 10oRA3/ (modules/Durability.lua oRA3.lua): oRA3: drycode plumbing for generic sortable overviews in the ORA3 GUI
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10:31.37SnagoI'm getting the same symptoms as nevcairiel
10:32.07GrumXinhuan: for some odd reason i think: 'if t == X_cache then return X else return Y end' is biting us
10:32.37Xinhuanwhy do you think so
10:32.53Grumi cant think of any reason why any of this should give a problem
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10:33.03Grumthe code is solid, except that it breaks if the zone has a ';' in it
10:33.19Grumwhich i'll fix in a sec (just changing the order: id;zone instead of the other way around)
10:33.21Xinhuandirect nev to the last commit's fisheye difference
10:33.41nevcairiellemme check my smv route, i created that one ages ago too
10:34.00ZhinjioGrum/Xinhuan: I asked a question the other day in here about _routes... but then got distracted and didn't see if one of y'all answered.
10:34.20Zhinjiois it possible to make the nodes do the "turn into circle" thing like mining/herb nodes do?
10:34.23GrumXinhuan: i should take the last 3 diffs, lets see
10:34.24Zhinjiowhen they're in range?
10:34.54GrumZhinjio: use it along with cartographer_mining/herbalism
10:34.58Grumand you get that automaticly ?
10:35.10Xinhuanthe code in _Notes does that
10:35.26ZhinjioI do, I think? Checking to see if they're enabled...
10:35.28Xinhuanit only changes into circles if you have the appropriate Detect Minerals etc buff active
10:35.45nevcairielHm, my SMV route works fine too
10:35.46nevcairielweird
10:35.50Zhinjioerr.... but this is gas extraction.
10:35.54ZhinjioI'm sorry, I wasn't clear.
10:36.03Zhinjioand there is no "buff" for that. hmm.
10:36.04Grumhttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua?r1=58354&r2=58366 <-- changes i made
10:36.09Xinhuancan't do anything about gas, it doesn't have a buff
10:36.20Xinhuanthe mob moves around anyway
10:36.39Grumwell you could fix Cartographer_GasXXXX orso to change it to a circle when in range
10:36.43Grumbasicly behaving like you have tracking on
10:36.54Xinhuanyou can't, its a _Notes thing
10:36.59Xinhuannot a Mining or Gas or Fishing thing
10:37.21Xinhuan_Notes specifically checks for your buff and specifically converts to icon to a circle
10:37.26Ellipsisdon't you need a certain item equipped to see it on your minimap though?
10:37.31Ellipsisso it could check for that instead of the buff?
10:37.38Xinhuanyes but wearing that item doesn't give you a buff ;d
10:37.43Zhinjioyes, goggles of various kinds that can detect that.
10:37.54nevcairielwheh
10:37.59nevcairielnow my SMV route is broken
10:38.03Ellipsisis there a reason that notes can't look at yor equipped items? :P
10:38.03nevcairielonly by a wee bit
10:38.05nevcairielbut its off
10:38.10Xinhuanscreenshot?
10:38.22Grumnevcairiel: lines 352 - 489 are the important parts
10:38.28Grumyes please screen it :0
10:40.37nevcairielhttp://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_011408_113905.jpg see route in minimap, doesnt hit the nodes
10:41.01Grumwth O.o
10:41.10Grumdid you happen to change zoomlevel?
10:41.33Grummeeting :)
10:41.40Kalrothnevcairiel: Stop breaking stuff, you meanie!
10:41.59nevcairielyes but only to show it, on max zoom (which i use normally), it was off too
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10:42.48nevcairielhttp://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_011408_114214.jpg on max zoom
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10:43.58ThiefMasterhi - is it intended that L["something"] will be empty (or nil?) if there is no translation for the current locale?
10:44.18ThiefMasterif yes, is there a tool that syncs a locale with another one without manually looking which translations are missing?
10:44.24Xinhuandepends on which acelocale librocklocale or libabble yu are using ThiefMaster
10:44.42Xinhuanand whether you asked for a Strict lookup table or an Unstrict lookup table
10:45.04Xinhuana strict one will throw an error, and unstrict one will return nil
10:45.14ThiefMasteruh no idea - i just noticed some empty strings in an addon i'm using and they are missing in Locale-de_DE.lua
10:45.25ThiefMasterso it's not possible to make it simply use the hardcoded string?
10:46.56ThiefMasterwhere in the code does it set strict/unstrict mode?
10:46.57ThiefMasterlocal L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("CooldownTimers")
10:47.22Xinhuannevcairiel, if you look at grum's link
10:47.26Xinhuanhttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua?r1=58354&r2=58366
10:47.34Xinhuando you think that metatable cache works or has issues?
10:49.01nevcairielhm, using a mt like that is weird
10:49.44Xinhuanit works for the *most* part, until your issue
10:50.33Neeblerhttp://www.theonion.com/content/news/half_of_26_year_olds_memories
10:50.44Neeblerhaha I got halfway through that article thinking it was real, until I realized it was from The Onion
10:50.49nevcairielpersonally, i would go for 2 different meta tables, one for X one for Y
10:50.57nevcairielthat if t == X_cache sounds wrong :P
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10:52.52nevcairielbut then again, in my case now, its only off by a few yards
10:52.53nevcairielso no idea
10:53.32nevcairieloh well time for university
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10:54.48ShenDKWhen making the folder structure when making a new project in trunk, and the files are packed adn put on files.wowace.com, does it make a folder in the zip with the addon name by itself, or do i need to create it in the reposotory?
10:55.39Orionshock<PROTECTED>
10:56.05Orionshockso the zip contains the folder "<AddonName>"
10:57.15ShenDKOk thanks. How about when the addon is abandoned, and you want people to overwrite that addons files to update, as there may be a chance the author coudl return at some point, can I do that?
10:57.38Xinhuanyou should try to contact the original author to request permission to do this first
10:57.46Orionshockthis is an SVN, nothing is every truely lost
10:57.46Xinhuanif you can't get a response, then go for it anyway
10:57.53ShenDKshe hasnt been online since october
10:58.39OrionshockShenDK: prudence would say - try and contact the author if they are MIA for 6+ months. also post in the thread for that addon or create one if none was found.
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10:59.01ShenDKyeah i did on the sites i could find
10:59.10Orionshockif you can't reach them and / or no one objects to changes proposed then it's safe to assume then that it's ok to make the modifications
10:59.40Orionshockgeneraly you'll want to branch first
10:59.46ShenDKheh people seem desperate.. its teh spamsentry addon and it doesnt monitor emote of lfg channel and its driving people nuts
10:59.47ShenDKdid
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11:00.55ShenDKnd the changes are trivial, but still.. for now i have branched it, with only the changed files in it, and posted the fisheye url to there so peopel can update manually
11:01.58Orionshockpoke some people in here about the changes, ones that use the addon and know how to code, see what they say... if you get a positive response then go for it... but always beware when touching addons not yours.
11:02.17ShenDKyep, hence why i ask in here
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11:04.46Xinhuangrum, maybe revert that metatable cache change until the problem is fixed?
11:04.52Xinhuannot sure what could be wrong
11:05.12Xinhuanmaybe converting the number coord ID from number to string, then string to number has issues?
11:06.05Xinhuanlocal key = format("%s;%s", zone, point)
11:06.21Xinhuanmaybe %8d would be better instead of %s
11:07.52Arrowmaster%8d?
11:08.08CIA-403celellach * r58465 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
11:08.08CIA-4AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
11:08.08CIA-4- small cleanup
11:08.36Xinhuan8 digit number
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11:08.50ArtellosHello everyone.
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11:09.00Xinhuanlike %.2f to specify 2 digits after decimal point
11:09.45ArtellosAnyone here familliar with "PrivateChat"?
11:14.12CIA-403celellach * r58466 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:14.12CIA-4AtlasLoot:
11:14.12CIA-4- small cleanup
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11:18.23Xinhuanthe coordinates looks like its truncated/math.floored
11:18.55ArtellosI'm having some problems with the AceComms, its giving me errors when i'm trying to setup an addon called PrivateChat, is there anyone able to help?
11:19.36Xinhuanwhat kind of errors
11:19.55ArtellosHold on, i'll copy them
11:20.05CIA-403shen 07bot * r58467 10SpamSentry/: SpamSentry: Created folder remotely
11:20.39ArtellosSendChatMessage(); Invalid escape code in chat message
11:21.35Artellosin the file: "AceComm-2.0.lua:2692"
11:21.45Xinhuanwhats the error
11:21.48CIA-403shen 07rp * r58468 10SpamSentry/: SpamSentry: Created folder remotely
11:22.06ArtellosSendChatMessage(); Invalid escape code in chat message
11:22.36Xinhuanthat would be the problem, PrivateChat is trying to send an invalid message
11:22.43CIA-403shen 07report * r58469 10SpamSentry/: SpamSentry: Created folder remotely
11:22.47Xinhuanmaybe someone's name has funny symbols in it
11:23.33ArtellosI used the following sentence: "Ok, this seems to work just fine" and it gave me that error. Could it be the ' , ' ?
11:24.28Xinhuanonly the author will know
11:24.28Ellipsisdoesn't PrivateChat try to encrypt text?
11:24.28ArtellosIt does, if you give in a key. But i didn;t
11:24.28Ellipsisit's probably turning into some weird invalid char
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11:24.53ArtellosAlso, i tried expirimenting with a guildy using a custom channel instead of the guild chat. That didn't work. However if we used guild chat it worked perfectly fine
11:25.12OrionshockShenDK: ... /branches/<AddonName>/shen/<AddonName> is the folder method usually employed. Unless your doing something strange and complicated
11:25.43Lukianhey Xinhuan, add gas support to routes, kthx
11:25.53Xinhuanalready has gas support since 2 months ago
11:25.59Lukiansweet :D
11:26.04LukianI haven't used it yet :)
11:26.14Lukianfirst time in SMV
11:27.07Lukianso what happened with the autowaypointing addition?
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11:28.21Xinhuanbeen in there for > 1 month
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11:31.07ArtellosOk, so private chat doesn't work.. Does anyone know an addon that allows you to create Classchannels even for out of guild people?
11:31.23Xinhuanuh.. just /join channelname
11:31.25Xinhuan?
11:31.32Xinhuancustom channels are like IRC
11:31.35Xinhuananyone can join them
11:31.53Artelloswell, that takes up a channel slot doesn't it?
11:31.57Xinhuanyah it does
11:32.01Xinhuanbut whats the problem with that?
11:32.03Arrowmasteryou have no other option really
11:32.04Xinhuanyou have 10 channel numbers
11:32.41Arrowmasterhow else do you expect to chat with people that you arent guilded/partied with
11:33.27Artelloswell, Private chat uses the AceComm thing, you can make unlimmited channels with it.
11:33.44Xinhuanmay i ask why you would want to have that many channels?
11:33.47Arrowmasterhuh?
11:33.49Xinhuanisn't the default 10 enough?
11:33.57Arrowmasterit uses the global acecomm channel?
11:34.08Arrowmasterthat is shared with everybody on the server?
11:34.42OrionshockArtellos:  PrivateChat -it's on the SVN
11:35.10Orionshockthat's what your looking for... it's ultimately unnecessary.
11:35.19ArtellosI'm sorry what is SVN?
11:35.35Orionshock... it's on the files.wowace.com site
11:35.40Orionshock~svn
11:35.40purlSubversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/.
11:36.24OrionshockArtellos: we use a svn here on wowace to make all these addons hosted on the file site... just assoicate "It's on the SVN" with "look at files.wowace.com to get it"
11:36.50ArtellosAh, thank you :)
11:37.20ArtellosI Did download PrivateChat from files.wowace.com, but its not working for me after i tried to get it running for about half an hour
11:38.02Artellosand the AceComm channel it uses is "AceComm<guildname>"
11:38.49Artellosbut the guildy i tested it with couldn't see my chat in the channel we made (the channel made by privatechat)
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11:39.06Arrowmasterprobably didnt set it up right or something
11:41.21ArtellosI guess. Annoying thing is i can't find what i did wrong
11:41.42Arrowmasterprobably not what you did but what you did that the other person didnt
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11:42.58ArtellosHmm, might be true. Could it be a smart idea to boot up my brothers pc, install the addon there and try to see if it works? or could there still be variable things that could go wrong?
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11:43.18Arrowmasterlooking at the code there seems to be a key mismatch option that you might want to enable for testing
11:44.27ArtellosOk, so i need to enable the option "Filter Key Mismatching"?
11:45.05Arrowmasterwell looking at it that would let you see if the other person was saying something but there was a problem with the encryption
11:45.29Arrowmasterseems like it defaults to hiding stuff it cant decode
11:46.35ArtellosThank you very much :) I'll try that out :)
11:46.54Arrowmasterand i agree with trying to test with 2 computers of your own
11:47.03Arrowmasterso you know its not somebody elses fault
11:47.41ArtellosThank you :) i'll try that out then :)
11:48.35ShenDKQuestion about AutoProps and TortoiseSVN: is there a way to update an existing project with autoprops rules?
11:49.14Arrowmasterafaik no
11:51.20ShenDKgah but thanks
11:52.09OrionshockShenDK: check it out , strip it of it' svn stuff, delete what's on the svn, then re check it in
11:52.17Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:54.48Grum<Artellos> and the AceComm channel it uses is "AceComm<guildname>" <-- if it uses AceComm then you will most likely see the messages blocked by AceComm unless you have an addon handling the data
11:55.38Grumso yes, having another box either without any addons manually joining the channel or one with the same addon (properly configured)
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11:59.25ShenDKOrionshock thanks
12:00.32Grum<Xinhuan> maybe %8d would be better instead of %s <-- you think lua might change it into 1,1233e9 orso?
12:00.39Xinhuanyes
12:00.58Grummmmm
12:01.13Grumfood atm, will ook into it in a bit
12:01.27Grumi think its default %10d then
12:02.24ArtellosGrum, thanks. but i'll see how working with 2 of my computers works first :)
12:02.50CIA-403shen * r58470 10/branches/SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua locale-enUS.lua options.lua): SpamSentry: Emptied folder for autoprops to work
12:08.16Xinhuani'm not sure if that works grum
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12:08.48Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%s"):format("abc", 12345678)
12:08.48lua_botXinhuan: abc;12345678,
12:08.56Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%s"):format("abc", 1234567890)
12:08.56lua_botXinhuan: abc;1234567890,
12:09.00Xinhuanhmm
12:09.12Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%s"):format("abc", 01244824)
12:09.12lua_botXinhuan: abc;1244824,
12:09.36Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%8d"):format("abc", 01244824)
12:09.36lua_botXinhuan: abc; 1244824,
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12:12.37Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%s"):format("abc", 123456789012)
12:12.37lua_botXinhuan: abc;123456789012,
12:12.50CIA-403shen 07Shen * r58471 10SpamSentry/: SpamSentry: branched
12:12.51Xinhuanlua> ("%s;%s"):format("abc", 1234567890123456)
12:12.51lua_botXinhuan: abc;1.2345678901235e+15,
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12:19.26ArtellosThank you all!! I've managed to get PrivateChat to work! :)
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12:27.35ShenDKon fish.wowace.com the zip tarball seems to download ok, but it contains a html error message,
12:27.36ShenDK500 Server Error
12:27.36ShenDKFishEye was unable to process your request.
12:27.36ShenDKjava.util.zip.ZipException
12:27.36ShenDKZIP file must have at least one entry
12:30.02Xinhuan... 4% wipe on illidari council
12:30.47Dezzimalgratz fgt
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12:32.17Artellos4% wipe? thats harsh =(
12:32.28Xinhuanyes, MT died at 7%
12:32.58ArtellosAnnoying :S
12:33.05ArtellosI hate it to wipe at those %'s
12:34.16m4rku5Xinhuan, how long have you been doing council trys ?
12:34.22Xinhuan3 hours
12:34.32m4rku5so u started that boss today ?
12:34.34Xinhuanyes
12:34.37m4rku5nice work
12:34.50m4rku5we started on sunday and it looks like were gonna kill him today
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12:35.07m4rku5but its still 5 hours til our raid starts ;P
12:36.46Artellosgoodluck m4rku5
12:36.48Artellos=)
12:36.54m4rku5ty :)
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13:07.57ArtellosHmm, could it be that the AceComm<Guildname> channel clashes with the global AceComm channel?
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13:16.13XinhuanWOO COUNCIL DOWN!
13:16.18m4rku5gz Xinhuan
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13:18.08KalrothXinhuan: Best 15 minutes of your life, eh?!
13:18.16Matrix110i wonder where you are from for EU its too early to raid, for US its quite late already?
13:18.24Xinhuannot really, most boring 15 min of life since i'm tanking the mage
13:21.21ggilbertXinhuan: congrats
13:25.48KalrothMatrix110: He might be asian then?!
13:25.56KalrothAlthough that nickname tries to hide it well.
13:37.37GrumXinhuan: how many healers are you taking to council? :)
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13:38.50Grumlua> string.format("%s;%10d", "abc", 1234567890123456)
13:38.50lua_botGrum: abc;-2147483648,
13:38.59Xinhuan2 pally, 1 priest, 4 druid, 2 shaman = 9 healers
13:39.19Grumand grats on council :)
13:39.27Grumwith 9 healers its basicly a 'bore em to death' fight :)
13:39.51Grumwith as only 'challenge' begin the rogue getting bubbled just after he vasnishes and slaps someone
13:39.55ggilbertXinhuan: How long did it take you guys?
13:40.02Xinhuan4 hours
13:40.03ArtellosXinhuan, Grats dude ;)
13:40.12Grumnow you are up for the most fun fight ingame :)
13:40.12ggilbertXinhuan: tonight was your first night of attempts?
13:40.16Xinhuanyes
13:40.21ggilbertCool deal
13:40.31Xinhuansame with mother actually, yesterday
13:40.40Grumwhat boss did struggle most on btw?
13:40.41Xinhuanand ros was our first kill 3 days ago as well
13:40.46ggilbertIn theory tomorrow will be our first night of council attempts
13:40.47Xinhuanso... 3 new bosses this week
13:40.57Xinhuanthe hardest was archimonde ~_~
13:41.10Grumah, what did you clear in BT before you did archi?
13:41.13Grumfirst 3/4?
13:41.16Xinhuanonly first 3
13:41.19Grumah :)
13:41.24Xinhuanbut gorefiend and bloodbloil each only took 1 night
13:41.25GrumBT is not that hard, just some 'odd fights' :)
13:41.30Xinhuanros took 2 weeks i think
13:41.31GrumRoS is strange
13:41.56sag_ich_nichtyour mom took 2 weeks, too
13:42.05sag_ich_nicht(btw. hi)
13:42.06Grumits mostly about taking the right group
13:42.10Xinhuanif only it really took 2 weeks
13:42.16ramozRoS = one day! :O
13:42.27Ellipsishai2u sag_ich_nicht
13:42.46sag_ich_nichtlike every raid, it's more about having people that can coordinate properly and not about having awesome equip
13:42.50ggilbertwe did a couple attempts at RoS on friday night and then got him and shaz this evening.
13:43.02GrumXinhuan: i still dont understand the problem with the 'shifted' route :(
13:43.17Xinhuanthe shifted route looks like the coordinate got floor()ed
13:43.19Xinhuanor something
13:43.25Grumyeah but where and how? :(
13:43.43Xinhuanit has to be something to do with converting the coord from number to string and back to number?
13:44.47Xinhuanthe thing is, you passed in a string to the getXY() call
13:45.07Xinhuanso inside there it has to tostring() twice?
13:45.22Xinhuantonumer
13:45.24Xinhuannot sure
13:46.01Xinhuanconsider reverting the change maybe, until we figure something out
13:47.19sag_ich_nichtokay
13:47.37sag_ich_nichtwho of you bastards broke scrolling with the mousewheel while the mouse is over the scrollbar in firefox 3.0 beta 2?
13:47.50Xinhuani did, i'm sorry
13:47.51Xinhuan:(
13:47.54sag_ich_nichtXinhuan go and fix it, because you always find bugs and fix them
13:48.04Shirik|AFKwho scrolls with the mousewheel while hovering over the scrollbar?
13:48.09sag_ich_nichtI FUCKING DO
13:48.12sag_ich_nichtand i like it that way.
13:48.16m4rku5rofl
13:48.16Ellipsiswhat is the point?
13:48.24Ellipsisyou're at the bar already, just drag it
13:48.29sag_ich_nichtthe point is that the mouse isn't in the field of view.
13:48.42Ellipsisl2movecursor?
13:48.47sag_ich_nichtI DO THAT
13:48.49sag_ich_nichtTO THE SIDE
13:48.51sag_ich_nichtTO THE SCROLLBAR
13:48.55EllipsisFAIL
13:49.07sag_ich_nichtno because that's the only place where you don't see the mouse
13:49.12sag_ich_nichtit's my "parking" position
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13:49.26sag_ich_nichtnow go fix it Xinhuan because i can'tt remember my bugzilla login
13:49.28sag_ich_nicht-t
13:49.40Xinhuanthat will require the services of your mum for 2 weeks
13:49.40Ellipsisjust move the cursor when you need to read the text that's under it
13:49.44sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: okay
13:49.48Ellipsis(preferably up to the page to something you've already read)
13:50.02Ellipsisor try something different, use it to keep your place as you read
13:50.02sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: no, that that is unneccesairy mouse movement
13:50.11sag_ich_nichti don't like that.
13:50.15sag_ich_nichti like it the way it worked before.
13:50.24sag_ich_nichtthere is no reason or need for it to change the way it worked before.
13:50.25Ellipsisthen fix it!
13:50.26Ellipsis:)
13:50.33sag_ich_nichti am fixing it by trolling here.
13:50.38sag_ich_nichtlern2troll
13:50.40Ellipsisno, you're not
13:50.42Ellipsisyou're just trolling
13:50.59EllipsisI doubt any of us particularly wants to fix your problem and happens to be in a position to go do so right now
13:51.08sag_ich_nichtexcept Xinhuan.
13:51.12sag_ich_nichtbecause he has no life.
13:51.15Ellipsiswell of course
13:51.18sag_ich_nicht:>
13:51.23EllipsisXinhuan can do anything, because he's supercoder
13:51.26Xinhuansorry, there is this queue
13:51.31m4rku5yeah that trolling would just cause me to stop someone from fixing that bug
13:51.38Xinhuanof bugs i need to fix!
13:51.41sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: i know
13:51.47sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: don't need to hurry
13:51.51sag_ich_nichtjust get it fixed before release.
13:51.54sag_ich_nicht:>
13:51.57m4rku5Xinhuan, wanna fix my OpenGL game engine ?
13:52.03Xinhuanno :<
13:52.07sag_ich_nichtm4rku5 is it opensource?
13:52.23m4rku5nope ;P but it wouldnt be of any use to anyone i guess ;P
13:52.28sag_ich_nichtwell
13:52.33m4rku5its just 2D i used it for my C&C clone
13:52.37m4rku5that never got finished
13:52.38m4rku5;P
13:52.49sag_ich_nichtif it isn't open source, no touchery
13:53.05m4rku5well font rendering is still buggy :S
13:53.34m4rku5but hey its got lua support so Xinhuan could make a game in game or something xd
13:53.53sag_ich_nichtbecause then i could steal an idea unintentionally and then we get this whole IP mudslinging and then you bring a lawsuite and i bring a lawsuite and then microsoft accuses us both of stealing code but offers us a deal if we work together with novell we won't get into trouble and then we get sued by the RIAA for no apparent reason
13:54.10m4rku5heh
13:54.24sag_ich_nichtPOINT IS: LOL TECHNOLOGY
13:54.35m4rku5i could just use TOR to put it on google code ;P
13:54.57sag_ich_nichtthen google get's sued
13:54.58m4rku5well i guess ill go use TOR and put my .wdb file parser to google code actually
13:54.58sag_ich_nichtnoes!
13:54.59sag_ich_nichtPANIC!
13:55.06m4rku5then blizz sues google hah
13:55.12sag_ich_nichtyou have a .wdb parsers
13:55.15sag_ich_nicht*parser?
13:55.17sag_ich_nichtnice
13:55.18sag_ich_nichtgiev
13:55.27m4rku5its got nice features like auto detecting which colum points to a valid string etc
13:55.32sag_ich_nichtnice
13:55.47m4rku5but creating that statistics for a 5MB itemcache.wdb takes some minutes ;P
13:56.06m4rku5i guess ill clean it up and put it on google code
13:56.15Xinhuan5 mb only? mine's 12 mb :)
13:56.19m4rku5heh nice
13:56.34m4rku5could ya upload that one somewhere ? ;P
13:56.44Xinhuani think it got wiped by this week's patch
13:56.52m4rku5damn those patches
13:57.05kagaroit is possible with the ingame api and restrions to profile memory allocations?
13:57.45sag_ich_nicht[14:56] <Xinhuan> 5 mb only? mine's 12 mb :) <--do want
13:57.50Grum<Xinhuan> consider reverting the change maybe, until we figure something out <-- i need to be able to 'see' these problems myself
13:58.04m4rku5well sag_ich_nicht  basically i just read the columns of the wdb file and then i run some statistics on the fields (if they are either 0 or point to a valid string in the string block)
13:58.07Xinhuanmine's 7 mb right now actually, until i find time to do a full scan
13:58.28m4rku5what my proggie doesnt do yet is those %s things etc in the strings
13:59.09Grumnevcairiel: omg
13:59.14nevcairiel?
13:59.18Grumon your screenshot: http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_011408_114214.jpg
13:59.32Grumfor some reason the code cannot detect your minimap shape
13:59.51Grumsee its round-clipped instead of a square?
13:59.58Grumwhat addon do you use for the shape?
14:00.01nevcairielthats probably tekkubs sucky minimap implementation that doesnt publish the common api
14:00.33nevcairielbut that shouldnt result in that issue :P
14:00.34kagarowhts up with wowwiki
14:00.46sag_ich_nicht[14:58] <Xinhuan> mine's 7 mb right now actually, until i find time to do a full scan <--so does the server disconnect you again when you request an unavailable item or not?
14:00.57Grumnevcairiel: is it something that happens all the time on every route?
14:01.08m4rku5kagaro, wowwiki works for me
14:01.31Lukiansag_ich_nicht, sometimes, it depends how much you spam the server
14:01.34nevcairielGrum: i only have 2 routes right now, one in terokkar (which was like absolutely wrong until i re-created it, seems to be better now after recreating), and my SMV route
14:01.38kagaroI got a 404 for http://www.wowwiki.com/wikia/World_of_Warcraft_API from the main page
14:01.57Grumremove the a: http://www.wowwiki.com/wiki/World_of_Warcraft_API
14:01.58m4rku5kagaro, link is bad
14:02.13nevcairielI'll teach my local squeenix copy the minimap API tho :P
14:02.14kagarowas working the other day wonder who changed it
14:02.32m4rku5Xinhuan, what tool/addon do you use to do a full scan?
14:02.36Xinhuanmy own
14:02.45Xinhuanquery server every 10 seconds for an itemlink
14:02.48m4rku5is that available to the public?
14:02.49Xinhuantakes ~96 hours
14:02.50Grumnevcairiel: does it start off broken? or does it 'shift' all of the sudden?
14:03.17GrumXinhuan: do you know when you query an item that is 'bad' ?
14:03.27ElkanoXinhuan, so you scan ingame?
14:03.41nevcairielGrum: starts like that
14:03.41m4rku5i could really need a good itemcache so i can work on my tool ;P
14:03.43Grumor can you only find out by querying another item within 10 seconds and get a disconnect?
14:03.53Grumnevcairiel: does it happen when you reloadui in that specific zone?
14:04.09nevcairielyes
14:04.18Grumand not with the old version? :(
14:04.20nevcairieli tried rl'ing in another zone, and in SMV
14:04.29nevcairielnever seen it before, no
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14:04.43Grumk something unknown is clearly making a pain out of itself
14:05.12Grumi'll revert it for now and check tonight (we'll likely not raid) if i can reproduce the problem
14:05.15nevcairielaltho i havent been to SMV for quite some time, and the route was created some time ago
14:05.25Grumif not, could you share your Saved variable file with the route?
14:05.26nevcairielso dunno if that might cause it
14:05.45Grumwell if its off by the same amount for *every* node it is rather odd
14:06.05Grumbut it could also be that blizzard decided to move outland by ~8 yards
14:06.23nevcairielheh
14:06.31nevcairielwell the notes are still right
14:06.44Grumcould you try the old version perhaps?
14:07.02Lukianm4rku5, it's inbuilt to wowequip :o
14:08.17Grumhttp://files.wowace.com/Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes-r58354.zip was before the likely relevant changes
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14:23.45Ellipsisinternets is for porn
14:24.00m4rku5yay more p0rn
14:24.02m4rku5*party*
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14:35.02ramozdoes spamsentry make text lag like the other spam addons do?
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14:36.27ShenDKif you are asking if it queues messages until it can lookup level and friends/guild and have-talked-to status then yes.. but it's almost instantaneous
14:37.12nevcairiel"almost"
14:37.31nevcairielthat doubles or tripples the latency of chat
14:37.42ShenDKhavent done any benchmarking, i just branched it to add lookingforgroup and emote channel support
14:38.27Pkekyo|g'morning all
14:38.32Ellipsismornin Pkekyo|
14:38.39Matrix110Blizzard should just fuck all trial Accounts WoW is 10€ in stores if people want to try it they can buy it..
14:38.41ShenDKi havent really noticed any difference other than i dont see goldseller ads anymore
14:38.47Pkekyo|meh, I should go to bed >.<
14:38.54ShenDKhey Pkekyo|
14:39.08Pkekyo|ahoy thar, ShenDK
14:39.08nevcairieli only see gold seller adds in azeroth cities
14:39.18nevcairieland for that 10 minutes per day i am in ironforge
14:39.22nevcairieli dont install another addon :P
14:39.34ShenDKthey have changed their marketing, so once every 10 mins or so during peak they spam in lfg channel
14:39.46Matrix110more
14:39.48[Ammo]they spam with walls of emotes
14:39.50[Ammo]in IF
14:39.53Matrix110we have it every 2mins
14:39.56m4rku5they also spam in /say @ the AH
14:39.56[Ammo]at least on kazzak-EU
14:39.59[Ammo]every 15 seconds
14:40.04[Ammo]10 line emotes
14:40.04Pkekyo|rofl...who the flying fuck are in /lfm anyways? :p
14:40.09Matrix110idd [Ammo]
14:40.24ShenDKyeah it got too annoying.. and anea has been inctive for a bit, and it was trivial to add those two channels to be monitored to
14:40.26[Ammo]but they are nice and the emote starts with ******* -> autoreport
14:40.44ShenDK*too
14:40.49Matrix110problem is the report doesnt help
14:40.58[Ammo]maybe it will eventually
14:40.59nevcairielit ignores them on your end
14:41.00Matrix110they have new trial accs every 30mins orso-.-
14:41.09[Ammo]they're finally doing something about afkers in bgs
14:41.21[Ammo]and if they get reported reported reoprted from the same IP a ban is in place soon enough hopefully
14:41.28m4rku5cant they just ban lvl1 chars from emote and LFG ;P
14:41.35Matrix110banning goldspammers would be so easy but well its Blizzard
14:41.51m4rku5ammo if they are lucky they can get a new IP from the ISP every time
14:42.34genetik-someone who puts that much effort into afking in a bg deserves the honor
14:42.36genetik-heh
14:43.26ShenDKin a way i can understand them.. it is reactive after all, if they began restricting game features they would risk bad publicity for being hostile towards new players, legit or goldspamming.. but maybe activision will change that since their merge with blizzard
14:44.39Matrix110if message>20chars == posted the last 5min more than once -> 10min chatban in /say /emote /trade /general
14:44.41Xinhuangrum
14:44.42Xinhuanping
14:44.47ShenDKi'd rather give 10 goldspammers the benefit of the doubt rather than banning 1 player who didnt do it
14:44.57Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10858.0;topicseen
14:44.58kagarothey should not only ban gold sellers, but the gold buyers as well should get slammed hard as well
14:45.16kagarono buyers == no demand == no sellers
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14:45.31Matrix110kagora they pay for the game :P although atleast Blizzard is in the position that a few k players doesnt matter unlike other MMORPGs...
14:45.42ShenDKthey have paved the way for that now, since they added guild buying to the list in the EULA
14:45.58m4rku5guily buying ?
14:46.01kagaroif you gota buy gold in BC your doing something wrong. it is soo easy to make money it is not funny
14:46.01m4rku5guild*
14:46.08ShenDKlol gold buying
14:46.14m4rku5ah ok ;D
14:47.10ShenDKapparently the elitist raiding guilds with their 6+ hour daily schedules with 95% required attendance are teh gold sellers biggest customers, since they need huge amounts of consumables
14:47.29Xinhuanexcept you are wrong
14:47.33[Ammo]that's silly
14:47.34m4rku5well we raid 5hrs 4 days a week and were not buying a single gold
14:47.36Xinhuanelitist raiding guilds do not need flasks
14:47.39m4rku5neither do any other raid guilds here
14:47.42Xinhuanthey simply do what they do
14:47.57Matrix110before we cleared the content we raided 7days/week and no one from us bought gold ever :P
14:48.07ShenDKthats nice
14:48.20Matrix110although we dont have 95% req. attendance or required consumeables
14:48.38Matrix110And for "harder" fights we had enough Flask marks normally
14:48.56m4rku5well guys have fun im driving home now ;P sitting around in the university computer room sux ;D
14:49.03Matrix110And its not like Elixirs or Weapon Oil is that expensive
14:49.18Matrix110m4rku5 if its as hot in there as @my uni then it sure does :P
14:49.29m4rku5Matrix110, nah its cold
14:49.29kagaroI spend maybe 20g in a raid night, and we raid 4 days a week
14:49.32Matrix110Its like 50°C in winter and they dont allow opening windows
14:49.34m4rku5but i wanna go to my own PC with sound
14:49.37m4rku5and with WoW installed
14:49.37m4rku5;D
14:49.50Pkekyo|"The best thing to come out of Russia since Vodka!" great caption for a movie :p
14:50.04kagarothen again I herb so 1 hour here and there and im good on pots for the wek
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14:50.39Matrix110and with TBC consumeables got Trivial anyway
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14:51.04Matrix110Super Mana/HP pots 3g for 5
14:51.11Matrix110Elixirs are cheap
14:51.16Matrix110Weapon oil is cheap
14:52.06CIA-403ammo * r58474 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: place the report window above the readycheckframe
14:52.07Matrix110and there arent any world buffs etc. anymore
14:52.11[Ammo]nevcairiel: ^----
14:52.31GrumXinhuan: mmm
14:52.50Xinhuani'm gonna look into it
14:53.15Grumthe version he mentions as 'the one he went back to' is the latest :(
14:53.27Xinhuanprobably a typo
14:53.31Xinhuanin any case, the problem exists
14:53.56Grumyeah clearly
14:54.02Pkekyo|oh lols, thought you said Ellipsis is cheap, Matrix110 :p
14:54.13Grumseems to be affecting everyone
14:54.26Grummaybe add some debug code, that just calls the old style and prints out any differences
14:54.26Xinhuangonna do some debugging
14:55.45Matrix110btw Blizzard sucks so hard the new readycheck is fine and so on but why the fuck does it still take 1min to get the result when 1 person is offline and all others are ready-.-
14:56.18GrumXinhuan: we can revert to just before the cache changes
14:56.19Xinhuanits 30 secs actually
14:56.27Matrix110still to long
14:56.32Xinhuanlet me see what's wrong
14:56.33Grumuse /raready :)
14:56.54Matrix110Grum we have ~15ppl in the raid not using ora/ctra so no:P
14:57.01GrumLOLLLLLL
14:57.07Grumok .. nevermind
14:57.11genetik-ora2 uses the bliz readycheck now, essentially
14:57.23Grumyou are also going to say that people dont have omen .. or have ktm ><
14:57.30ArtellosMatrix110, now you can see the Ticked Things etc though
14:57.52Artellosdrag out the raid groups out of the blizzard raid pane and you can see who is actually ready and who isn't
14:57.52Matrix110yes we kill Illidan and our mt and best healing people arent using any addons at all :P
14:58.01Artelloshaha =)
14:58.21Matrix110some of our dps are using omen but well they dont have the tank in there its basically "i have more threat than the other dpser"
14:58.35Matrix110which basically says nothing before somebody overaggros :P
14:58.44Grumdoesnt that make you cry?
14:58.51Grumi hope you are a healer ><
14:58.58Matrix110DPS
14:59.03Matrix110without threatmeter
14:59.21Grumthreatmeters are useless unless the tank actually has one
14:59.26CIA-403nevcairiel * r58475 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: dont show readycheck status if not assistant or leader
14:59.28Matrix110no shit? :P
14:59.35Grumso how do you know if you can go fullout? because its just blind hope in my eyes :)
14:59.42Matrix110Artellos i know but its still annoying
14:59.42Grum(or you never go fullout)
14:59.51Matrix110I always can go Fullout
15:00.10ArtellosI use the Blizz Raid Panes, and its working more then fine for me =)
15:00.13Grumi sure hope your MT never has a chain of missed first hits ><
15:00.19Matrix110The rare occasions i could overaggro i notice by myself
15:00.27Matrix110and i can watch rage bar/hp bar of my tank aswell
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15:00.42Artellosrisky though
15:00.58Xinhuannevcairiel, you are an english client right?
15:01.02Grumeven with threatmeters its risky because its not guaranteed accurate
15:01.06nevcairielXinhuan: yea
15:01.16genetik-can't wait for blizzard threat meters
15:01.39Grumwell best wait because its not likely to get made soon :)
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15:01.52nevcairieli still dont see them giving us accurate threat data
15:01.55Matrix110But well i got it pretty easy as a Frostmage aggrowise
15:01.55RaydenUman, i died on two bosses last night
15:02.02genetik-nevcairiel: why do you say that?
15:02.03RaydenUneed to contain the dps!
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15:02.16Grumand best hope blizzard never make it public themselves
15:02.23Matrix110WoW is easymode why make it more easymode i dont get it
15:02.24nevcairielgenetik-: because they never give out accurate information about any ingame mechanics
15:02.32Grumthat would mean they will make fights designed to just feed of that one part of data
15:02.34Matrix110Respec should be atleast 1000g -.-
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15:02.44CIA-403ammo * r58476 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: don't report readycheck results when closing window, it'll report at the end of the check
15:02.58kenlyricMatrix110: because it's the easymode MMO?
15:03.03genetik-nevcairiel: yeah, but on the other hand, i can't imagine they'd put that into the game with it being inaccurate
15:03.06kenlyricI guess if you want hardmode you should be playing another game.
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15:03.23GrumMatrix110: if you look back at all the fights after you nail illidan you really wonder what made you stall on some of em
15:03.27kenlyricor, do interesting things like play with no monitor.
15:03.43Matrix110problem is the other game fails in every aspect besides trying to be not easymode kenlyric :P
15:03.47Grumhaha i knew someone like that, who could play Halflife2 without models on
15:04.04clad|awaynevcairiel: I told you, the best I suspect we'll ever get, is an event when we're close to the aggro threshold
15:04.12clad|awaysomething anyone can understand, easy to use, etc.
15:04.15RaydenUwhat do you mean Grum, you couldn't see anything
15:04.17nevcairielclad|away: and i still agree with that :P
15:04.26GrumRaydenU: yeah and still kill people as easily asif he would see em
15:04.30Matrix110its green dot yellow dot red dot i guess :P
15:04.36RaydenUthat's impossible
15:04.37Grumi didn't believe it till i stood behind his screen on a lanparty
15:04.40ElzarathDoT timers for raids, will classtimer let u just show your own dots and not the whole party on a target? as will as on the focus target (example shackled undead)
15:04.49Grumsurround sound headset was all he needed
15:05.00Grumand ofc, he could literally dream every pixel of the map and sounds in it
15:05.00RaydenUi am very skeptical
15:05.18kenlyrichl2 has a fairly robust sound system.
15:05.30Grumso was I, someone was loosing (was ~6 yrs ago orso) against him and i made fun about the guy
15:05.41Grumand he was like .. you want to hear something? the other guy plays without models on ...
15:05.51Grumand i just walked over and .. he was ><
15:05.57Matrix1105.1 Headsets are not really great for sourround sound.... Stereo Headset and a proper sound algorythm is better than any 5.1 wannabe marketing headset on the world :P
15:06.25Grumi dunno, i just know that he killed stuff without once seeing it
15:06.29kenlyricproper sound algorithm is the catch in that scenario :)
15:06.41RaydenUhttp://wowwebstats.com/26313kzpxzfiw?s=10248-10679 <-- i'm awesome. pushing 850 dps right up until i died on midnight
15:06.45Matrix110even pure Stereo is better:P
15:07.10RaydenUsince you only have 2 ears, 2 sound sources is all you *need*
15:07.19kenlyriclies
15:07.28genetik-i hate WWS's new styling
15:07.32Grumsame
15:07.34Grumit looks retarded now
15:07.37kenlyrictruth
15:07.57Grumlike someone picked random colors on a pallet and some actually burn my corneas straight off
15:08.00RaydenUyeah i like the old colors better
15:08.05[Ammo]wow 850 dps in 40k damage
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15:08.21[Ammo]dying on attumen?!
15:08.22[Ammo]:p
15:08.28RaydenUwhat can i say, too much dps :)
15:08.36[Ammo]or your tank fails
15:08.39RaydenUi jumped almost 150 shadow damage from the last time i ran
15:08.42Ultimaexhello, has someone time to look over my addon to find out what doesnt work?
15:08.50Ultimaexits only a small one
15:09.19Matrix110btw Ammo BetterInbox owns now we need BetterOutbox :P
15:09.39RaydenUhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Kagere <-- the tank
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15:10.12RaydenUi'm geared way better than he is
15:10.16Grumlol
15:10.24Grumthat is not a tank :)
15:10.28RaydenUi'm geared better than anyone else in my guild
15:10.37Grumleave and join another one!
15:10.53RaydenUhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Xillez
15:10.56RaydenUour normal main tank
15:11.01Matrix110armory doesnt like firefox
15:11.05Matrix110or the way around
15:11.07kenlyricHi, my name is awesome, and I come from awesome.
15:11.12kagaro_I die all the time on attumen
15:11.12RaydenUGrum it's a guild of friends. once i get my druid to 70 i'll be taking my spriest and raiding with someone else
15:11.35RaydenUi died on big bad wolf too :(
15:11.38kagaro_since I end up tanking everytime we fight him
15:11.44RaydenUunfortunately the main healer died immediately so the druid raised him
15:12.01Grumbbwolf is 'yet another random fight' ... i hate those :)
15:12.09[Ammo]wolf is fun
15:12.11Grumi like the ones where it takes a certain amount of skill to control it .. not luck
15:12.24[Ammo]and with skill you can live
15:12.25Grumi agree, 'Run little girl' is quite fun :P
15:12.29kagaro_RaydenU how much + dam you got ?
15:12.33RaydenU1037 unbuffed
15:12.36Grumnot really [Ammo], not your own skill
15:12.38RaydenU~1141 i think buffed
15:12.45[Ammo]Grum: sure your own skill
15:12.53[Ammo]position your tank and yourself correctly
15:13.01[Ammo]and when he comes for you, use the scenery correctly
15:13.02Grumnope, if someone overaggros and make him stand nearly next to you ...
15:13.11[Ammo]the obstacles are there for a reason in the room
15:13.15Grumyeah i know
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15:14.15sb_does it make sense to do searious mother tries w/ only 6 hearts / player? (=255 SR unbuffed)
15:14.26Grumyup
15:14.28Matrix110yes
15:14.34Grumyou can kill her like that
15:14.41Matrix110killing her with that is easy
15:14.45sb_so w/o legs
15:14.49sb_hmm okay :)
15:14.51Matrix110the only thing you need is a good geared mt
15:14.57sb_hm yup
15:14.57Matrix110If your mt lacks gear its not fun
15:14.58Grumgood geared mt? :)
15:15.28Matrix110*good geared tank
15:15.35GrumMatrix110: i agree on that in basics indeed, nearly all fights go through that one person taking the big hits
15:15.39sb_well you also need some good geared tank to get past RoS i think :o
15:15.51GrumRoS is not a tank fight tbh
15:15.52Matrix110not at all
15:16.03Matrix110@ RoS our tanks SIT down to gain rage :P
15:16.04sb_Grum: not damage - but threat
15:16.11Grumthat is actually one where the tank matters crap (except for aggro generation in p2/3)
15:16.31sb_and you need some good tank to kill archimonde ;o
15:16.39Grumyou need better healers @ Archi :P
15:16.45sb_(healers running around :p)
15:16.48Matrix110or many shamans
15:16.56Grumyou need good tanks (not geared) for BB/Alar/Illidan :)
15:16.58sb_ud priest <3
15:17.24Grumif they dont know their shit you just die there :)
15:17.33sb_i can heal ~all the time, FW, WoTF, trinket reotation :p
15:17.35sb_rotation even
15:17.55Matrix110lame shit
15:18.01sb_well yes, but i think archimonde is pretty easy if ppl get the idea behind that fight - to RUN and not try to uber-dps :p
15:18.18GrumFW: 3m, trinket 2m, WoTF .. what cooldown?
15:18.43sb_2min
15:18.49Matrix110I like the guilds using 5 Shamans on Archimonde i wonder what they would do with less :P
15:19.01Grumkill him slower
15:19.05sb_Grum: its not 100% - but its okay :p
15:19.14Matrix110they would wipe ages before
15:19.51Matrix110not to mention those guilds normally dont have the pvp trinkets on ppl
15:20.36sb_well..
15:20.36Grumyeah heheh that is hurtful :)
15:20.37sb_but those guilds also have some problems with their shadow resistance equip :o
15:20.46sb_(huh, farming 18 primales? me???)
15:20.51sb_primals... bah
15:21.03Grumfarming shadow .. iew :P
15:21.27Matrix110i bought them for 50s/piece and had them on my bank char :P
15:21.40ArtellosDamn that PrivateChat addon... It works until i turn on other -Ace2- addons.. Anyone knows a possible cause for this?
15:22.00grzesieqheh, imo not having 2 min pvp trinket on archi calls for a gkick :P
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15:23.15Grumagain, without trinket its doable, you just leave a lot to chance :)
15:23.55Matrix110yeah running away from fires normally already is enough
15:24.17sb_yup
15:25.08Matrix110only the healing can get tricky but Priests with FW and trinket and a Pala with trinket is enough
15:25.10Grumyeah, but even then you have a small chance :P
15:25.13Matrix110and gots ofc
15:25.25Grumgots?
15:25.31Matrix110*gots
15:25.32Matrix110omg
15:25.35Matrix110*hots
15:25.41Grumgods? =D
15:26.28sb_oh and Matrix110 - dont call wotf lame shit w/ 2 years of alliance-only-30s-easymode-fearward ;)
15:26.33Matrix110and burning isnt really much of a problem if people got a pot and a HS if they get airbursted
15:26.56Grumsb_: nearly no bosses that really abused fear right?
15:27.01Matrix110We had 1 dorf priest -.-
15:27.07Matrix110and he wasnt uber active
15:27.11sb_nef was annyoing
15:27.14kenlyricfear won't be blah blah blah.
15:27.33Grumnot as a tanking difficulty at least ><
15:27.37sb_"what? using cooldowns for hs / healing potion? never... i cant use mana emerald / mana potion then - loosing dps!!!"
15:27.39sb_:(
15:27.52Grumhehe
15:27.55Grumthat applies for me ;)
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15:28.05sb_applies to our mages :/
15:28.12Matrix110well Mages got Iceblock now
15:28.21Matrix110so they cant complain
15:29.51ArtellosCan anyone help me here with a question? :P
15:29.57Matrix110~asktoask
15:29.57purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
15:30.35sb_meh and i'm not sure if i should take archimonde or ros offhand :p
15:30.42sb_(coh/holy priest ;p)
15:30.48Matrix110Rage Winterchill offhand!
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15:30.54sb_heal!!!!
15:30.58Matrix110pft
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15:32.44SroshWhatever drops first, I'd suggest.
15:33.06ArtellosRight, I have this addon called: "PrivateChat", i've had some trouble but after i downloaded "Libs:Ace2" with it and it worked perfectly (if i turned off all my other addons). then i started turning back on my -Ace2- addons and it started to have some failures again, Anyone knows a possible cause for it?
15:33.54Grumnot unless anyone knows the failures :)
15:34.25Matrix110Artellos do you get errormessages?
15:34.29Matrix110if yes which one
15:34.37Matrix110use ace.pastey.net for long ones
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15:36.23ArtellosI do get errormessages. But they are really short and i can't read them fully. It's about "AceComm-2.0.lua" and "SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape 'something'"
15:37.47Matrix110then the easiest way would be to just redownload Ace2 and try
15:37.57Matrix110it might be that PrivateChat is outdated i got no clue
15:38.06Chompersrun wowace updater again
15:38.32ArtellosI can find the wowace updater at the files.wowace.com, right?
15:39.03Chompershttp://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm
15:39.26Artelloscheers chompers
15:41.01Artelloshttp://ace.pastey.net/    =   error 500, Internal Server Error
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15:47.21forfeit1Morning all
15:47.29Artellosgood afternoon ;)
15:47.56forfeit1damn i aint been on irc in like 3 years... well since I discovered WoW
15:48.21forfeit1dropped in to ask a Q about Autobar.. if anyone has any help
15:48.58forfeit1basically, it says it supports Class Spells now.. I assume that means in my case, Pally Blessings, but I cant find how to add it.
15:49.40Finfantastic
15:49.41Chompershttp://code.google.com/p/autobar/downloads/list - that autobar?
15:49.50Chompers2030032alpha
15:50.02FinI've thought of a useful way to get rid of the 1400 netherweave I had left over from levelling tailoring
15:50.04Chompersthat has classlists and all
15:50.35forfeit1ahhh.. I had the beta.. will try the alpha
15:50.48Artelloswhere exactly does the wowace updater install itself?
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15:50.56FrostByghtecould anyone sum up some of the differences between Spellreminder and NECB?
15:51.12ShenDKi dotn knot spellreminder so i cant help with that
15:51.13FrostByghtebesides the obvious Ace usage :)
15:51.48Matrix110Dont know spellreminder but based on the name NECB doesnt even do that :P
15:51.55FrostByghteI need to dump chronometer...NECB sounds nice, but the author just quit that project as well
15:52.14FrostByghtehowever I guess several authors have offered to pick the project up
15:52.19Matrix110There are several authors going to write a alternative after 2.4
15:55.19LukianXinhuan, Is Spell Crit rating in wowequip actual spellcrit % or the increase in spell crit rating (by %) ?
15:55.34Xinhuanthe actual %
15:56.44Lukiancheers
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16:08.03PolarinaWho is the project manager for the addon Cartographer?
16:08.19vhaarrthis channel
16:08.39Polarina?
16:09.02FinMr. ProjectManagerMan, of COURSE
16:09.09Finor ckknight
16:09.14Finone of the two
16:09.19vhaarrpolq
16:09.26PolarinaFin: Thanks.
16:09.33vhaarrPolarina: noone is responsible for it, this channel can handle any questions you have
16:09.49vhaarrckk is the author but don't count on him caring
16:09.50PolarinaIt's not a question..
16:10.09Xinhuan[1/15 00:09:58] <Polarina> Who is the project manager for the addon Cartographer?
16:10.13Xinhuanpretty sure that's a question!
16:10.25Polarina:P
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16:10.44Xinhuanrabbit
16:10.48Xinhuando you think ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA has a throttle?
16:10.55vhaarrno
16:10.56Xinhuanso that you don't change zone channels 10x in one second
16:11.05Xinhuanbetween /1 of say SMV and terokkar
16:11.08vhaarrI don't think so, but I don't know
16:11.21Fin"ckk is the author but don't count on him caring" - an excellent overview!
16:11.27Xinhuanbecause GetRealZoneText() seems to change way before ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA
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16:15.48PolarinaWell, I'm requesting the permission to fix and commit my own bug fixes for Cartographer to the AceSVN. (I really hade all these in-combat taint and lua errors)
16:16.50Finjust do it! you'll get grief if you fuck up, possibly even if you don't because it's not in line with the authors' liking, possibly just because, but! possibly nothing will happen and you'll just be doing everyone a favour
16:17.18Finckknight's not around, I won't tell anyone if you don't, mum's the word eh
16:17.25sb_oh, terminator s01e02 tomorrow?
16:17.36Matrix110Cartho isnt locked?
16:17.38Fin+to himself
16:17.52Finis it? that's a shame, but not surprising I guess
16:18.11Finare you just guessing, Matrix110?
16:18.11Matrix110i dont know iam asking but i assumed it was
16:18.36FinPolarina: I'm not sure if things have moved to git or something else, I haven't been paying attention, but I know the bug tracking stuff used to be at fish.wowace.com
16:18.56XinhuanPolarina: ps just do it
16:19.13Matrix110more than somebody rollbacking cant happen anyway
16:19.28Finexcept grief
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16:19.45PolarinaThanks.
16:19.46Finbut hey, sticks and stones, and all that, right
16:19.54elusifin itemrack mod the code to equip a set of armour and weapons when stealthed is local _,_,isActive = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1)if isActive and not IR_FORM then  EquipSet() IR_FORM=1elseif not isActive and IR_FORM then  LoadSet() IR_FORM=nilend--[[Equips set to be worn while stealthed.]]
16:20.05elusifwhat would be the code to equip a different set when not stealthed?
16:20.30elusifplease
16:20.31elusif:)
16:20.38Matrix110I actually wondered that no one edited BigWigs orso and delete items/money (dunno if thats still possible without hardware input) :P
16:21.49Finparanoia cha cha cha
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16:25.24CIA-403mikk 07Beta * r58477 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua:
16:25.24CIA-4Ace3 - AceSerializer:
16:25.24CIA-4- Fix an error message for something that can never happen, so a bit pointless but ohwell :)
16:25.35Virashoi @ all
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16:27.57elusifcan any of you answer my question please?
16:29.31kneekiAny WoWAce SVN admins online? I need my SVN password reset. :(
16:29.42HjalteCan anyone brighter than me calculate how much haste rating is needed to make Shadow Bolt (2.5 sec) in to a 1.5 sec cast time spell?
16:30.12m4rku5a damn lot of haste rating ;)
16:30.21Megalon60%
16:30.31durcynHjalte: well, i can tell you that heroism + illidan trinket is 1.75 sec
16:30.47zacHjalte: 40% haste (not attainable statically)
16:31.11Megalonargh, 40% :S
16:31.47m4rku540% or 632 haste rating
16:32.08genetik-how many decursers does everyone here bring to archimonde?
16:32.23Matrix110We normally have 4
16:32.40nevcairielwe take 5
16:32.41m4rku5genetik-, no clue we use our default setup all mages decurse and maybe some druids if they can
16:32.43nevcairielone for each group
16:32.55Matrix110I consider every mage/ resto/(Balance) druid a decurser
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16:33.27Matrix110We use the 4 group tactic which works quite good especially the group at the tree where Doomfire bugs out:P
16:33.42Matrix110Although you are instant dead when you walk inside bugged 100time stacked Doomfire
16:34.05genetik-cool.. we're getting ready to start tier 6 content and i want to make sure that all of our ducks are in line with regards to our raid roster
16:34.26Matrix110starting Hyjal?
16:34.31genetik-so we won't have to recruit more later and come back to vashj/kael for attunements
16:34.36Matrix110Have fun @trash waves :P
16:34.40Grumhehe
16:34.43genetik-yeah, we'll probably be starting hyjal in a few weeks
16:34.49elusifin itemrack mod the code to equip a set of armour and weapons when stealthed is local _,_,isActive = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1)if isActive and not IR_FORM then  EquipSet() IR_FORM=1elseif not isActive and IR_FORM then  LoadSet() IR_FORM=nilend--[[Equips set to be worn while stealthed.]]  what would be the code to equip a different set when not stealthed?
16:34.50genetik-started learning kael last night
16:34.52Grumyou killed Vashj/Kael? :)
16:34.54Matrix110Hyjal is a really short instance even with the waves but they are so annoying
16:34.55Grumah nice
16:35.00genetik-made really good progress on him for the first night
16:35.22Matrix110Be GLAD you fight this Kael and not the first killable version :P
16:35.22elusifthe form when not stealthed is called nil
16:35.43Grumgenetik-: you know you can reset Kael fight by having an add walk through one of the forcefielded-doors? (mage blink)
16:35.55genetik-still?
16:35.59genetik-i thought they fixed that
16:36.07Matrix110woot that works?
16:36.08Grumit has to have legs, weapons dont do well :P - oh .. dunno didn't try after 2.3.2
16:36.22Matrix110but well we didnt do TK for ages
16:36.26genetik-might try that this week just to see if it's possible still
16:36.27Matrix110no reason for it
16:36.36Grumyou will have reason if someone dies
16:36.51Grumthaladred giving you a hit and you fly up .. and get teleported in front of his feet *SPLAT*
16:36.59Grumhappened like 10 times during the times we tried and killed him after
16:37.02Matrix110I hope that none of our guildmembers will die so we gotta attune new people :P
16:37.29Grumor when that feardude fears someone though the door ><
16:37.39Grum*through
16:37.54Matrix110Learning Kael without Phase 1 skip and the HP nerf was rather annoying yeah :P
16:38.11Grumphase1skip?
16:38.21Grumthey have less HP now, but you still need to kill em
16:38.23Matrix110Phase 1 takes like 30sec now
16:38.27Matrix110before it took AGES
16:38.39Grumjust curious why, did he have long chats between the mobs?
16:38.47Grumphaseone is about 3-4 mins orso
16:38.58Matrix110~20sec chattering between mobs
16:39.02Matrix110but its still there i think
16:39.07Grumno, just one line
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16:39.25Matrix110well the line takes 20sec or 15
16:39.42Grumnever even noticed it, they drop, you walk .. it starts
16:39.47Grumits about 10s orso
16:40.14Grumexcept between add 2-3 it took a bit long indeed
16:40.20Matrix110Best Kael learning bug we had was Phase 5 he goes into immunity mode for the "cinematic" and starts casting his Pyroblasts :P
16:40.22genetik-[11:33] < Matrix110> We use the 4 group tactic which works quite good  especially the group at the tree where Doomfire bugs out:P
16:40.23PolarinaHmm... How many reports does it take to have a person in a arena game get the Idle debuff?
16:40.31genetik-mt
16:40.45Matrix110our Maintank and no one really noticed it and splat mt gone
16:40.54Matrix110glad we had a CR
16:40.57OsstiaPolarina: I think 4-5
16:41.04Grumbut genetik-, have you decided which instance to focus on already? :)
16:41.13Matrix110Polarina in a Arena game you cant get Idle debuff? :P
16:41.16genetik-BT
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16:41.29PolarinaMatrix110: You can report them for AFK in a arena game.
16:41.29genetik-that's my immediate plan at least
16:41.31Grumremember boss 1-3 in MH is pinata
16:41.32OsstiaI assumed s/arena/BG/
16:41.37genetik-true
16:41.42PolarinaNo, not battleground, arena.
16:41.50Osstiathen i have no idea
16:41.52Grumand trash == hearts of darkness == progress
16:41.55Matrix110genetik- do 3 Bossey Hyjal clear till Teron Gorefiend/bloodboil and then do Archi
16:42.16Grumor just Teron and then Azgalor+Archi
16:42.29Grum1-4 BT is doable in one day if you are still newish
16:42.36Grumtakes 3-3.5hrs
16:42.43Grum(with not too many wipes)
16:42.49genetik-hmm.. so focus on clearing 1-3 hyjal first before working on bt?
16:42.58Grumyou will clear 1-3 Hyjal in 2-3 days
16:42.59Matrix110First 3 are cake
16:43.02CIA-403xinhuan * r58478 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua:
16:43.02CIA-4Cartographer_Routes: Fixed minimap line drawing offset bug in our cache
16:43.02CIA-4implementation that resulted from a race condition between the return value of
16:43.02CIA-4GetRealZoneText() and the ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA event not matching up in the
16:43.02CIA-4core Cartographer:PointToYards(x, y, zone)
16:43.06Grumthe nyou can clear BT 1-3 in the same time
16:43.10Matrix110can clear them easily in 1 day even
16:43.20genetik-yeah, the guild on our server who's right above us on progression did 1-3 hyjal and 1 in bt just this weekend
16:43.20sb_hyjal starts with azgalor
16:43.22sb_;)
16:43.27m4rku5nice fix Xinhuan ;D
16:43.29Grumyup :)
16:43.40Grumthat was a lot of chatting about a stupid bug in Carto :(
16:43.48Grumanyhow ... Xin did magic again :P
16:43.53Grumalong with nevcairiel
16:44.03Xinhuani blame blizzard
16:44.12Xinhuanon the race condition
16:44.19nevcairielrace condition bugs ftl
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16:44.26Xinhuanthat can occur due to its throttle on the ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA event
16:44.27m4rku5sure they fuxored up the threading ;P
16:44.29Xinhuanthat they implemented
16:44.47Xinhuanso that your chat channels don't change every 0.01 seconds if you dance between 2 zone borders
16:44.53m4rku5blizz guys should have attended to a lecture about multithreading ;P
16:44.55Grumwell blizzard is the cause but we relied on Carto having it implemented right
16:45.24GrumAzgalor is fun though, quite an easy fight tbh
16:45.32Grumif your MT is geared enough ><
16:46.16Matrix110I remember people saying Kaz'rogal is the hardest one of the first 4 and Azgalor is ez-mode i still wonder if they fought different bosses then we do :P
16:46.16Grumgenetik-: make sure you dont waste your hearts on non-healers if you want to kill Azgalor easier in the start
16:46.41GrumKaz'rogal is a piss, wear your neck and you resist ~30-50%
16:46.57Grumfor the other ones, just pot up :P
16:47.03sb_Grum: druid tank is fine for azgalor :o
16:47.05Matrix110Kaz'rogal is total ez-mode and Azgalor is a bit more annoying
16:47.16Matrix110especially if you are caster heavy
16:47.20Matrix110fucking silence crap-.-
16:47.24Grumyeah hehe
16:47.30Grumah well -> home
16:47.52genetik-we typically run melee heavy in our raids when we can
16:47.55CIA-403kneeki * r58479 10CurseBar/ (CurseBar.lua CurseBar.toc Frames.lua):
16:47.55CIA-4CurseBar:
16:47.55CIA-4- Fixed tooltip and positioning errors. Also cleaned up the way frames are created.
16:48.31sb_we usually have 3 locks, 3 mages and some support ;p works fine for AE trash
16:48.45sb_and no real problems so far
16:50.00Matrix110well to many melee is not fun either on Azgalor increases the possibility of fire on melee
16:50.13Pkekyo|ohlawd
16:50.13Pkekyo|fell asleep :<
16:50.22sb_on your keyboard?
16:50.54sb_that would explain all that interesting stuff you typed in here :p
16:51.16Pkekyo|sb_: nah, by it
16:51.17OsstiaHave you ever fallen asleep raiding?
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16:51.34Pkekyo|yes I have
16:51.36Pkekyo|serial times
16:51.40CIA-403kneeki * r58480 10SummoningBar/ (4 files):
16:51.40CIA-4SummoningBar:
16:51.40CIA-4- Fixed tooltip issues (now displaying proper ranks), added shard/component count on button for easy refrence.
16:51.41Pkekyo|my guild hated me for that :p
16:51.43EllipsisI'm about to fall asleep 5manning =[
16:51.45Pkekyo|(I'm the main tank)
16:52.23Osstiai have fallen asleep fishing before
16:52.38NivFreaksame
16:52.43Osstiabut not raiding, but i have had guildies go awol during a raid from falling asleep
16:52.56Pkekyo|~fail sb_
16:52.56purlsb_: Fail.
16:53.01sb_:(
16:53.14OsstiaI have 2 chars at 375 fishing, thats mind numbingly boring
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16:54.11Pkekyo|rofl Osstia
16:54.11Pkekyo|you be crazy
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16:54.21genetik-Osstia: ah, but do you have all of the fishing tournament gear on both of them?
16:54.22genetik-heh
16:54.26Osstiano
16:54.30kergothhmm, mhud seems bloated up with a billion config options, not ulike cowtip & that sort.. but its nifty nonetheless
16:54.33Osstiathats serious business on my server
16:54.45genetik-i love the fishing tournament
16:55.05genetik-granted it's easier being on a pve server
16:55.43kagaro_i havent checked the tourny since I won all the stuff I wanted form it
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16:56.11genetik-me either
16:56.19genetik-though, i still want to get the boots fish eventually
16:56.22genetik-never did get that
16:56.42kagaro_hmm only thing I dont have form fishing on my rogue is the track nodes skill
16:56.55genetik-that thing's easy to get
16:57.03durcynit's ok, green fishing pole from northrend is gonna be better than arcanite pole anyway =P
16:57.04genetik-just spend like 10 minutes in zangarmarsh
16:57.08genetik-durcyn: :P
16:57.10kagaro_the trinket sucks for anything other than playing around
16:57.40genetik-i use it when running back from rare ssc wipes to swim faster
16:57.41genetik-heh
16:57.48kagaro_rofl
16:57.57kagaro_I never take my rogue in raids unfortunetly
17:00.33Finkergoth: billions of config options is what you want! have addon, will tweak
17:00.40VirasAnyone can help me with lua based frame creation? I'm just getting started with it and somehow I can't get a simple frame with a texture to show. I have the following code: http://pastebin.com/m354e78ae if I call it and make a Show() on the frame I don't see anything - am I missing something?
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17:01.12kergothFin: true.  i like config options usually, but i start to get worried when it gets dogtag and stuff, that level of flexibility makes me worry about overhead :)
17:01.47Chompersafter 2 weeks on vashj, is it worth trying kael
17:01.52Chompersor is he even worse
17:01.59hasteViras: \ -> \\ in :SetTexture, or use [[ ]] instead of "
17:02.13CIA-403polarina * r58481 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc):
17:02.13CIA-4Relegation:
17:02.13CIA-4- Updated signatures.
17:02.16hasteViras: you also need to :SetPoint your frame
17:02.41hasteViras: and you might be interesetd in :SetAllPoints(frame)
17:03.00Virashaste: I'm doing the SetPoint in the part of the code that calls the function
17:03.07Virasbut thx the [[ ]] solved it
17:03.18Virasreally thx a lot - was fiddling around for around an hour now ^^
17:03.39Virass/around/about
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17:08.28Finkergoth: yeah, having configurability and efficiency as the top two qualities for an addon is basically the problem, I think :) but I've gradually decided I don't care so much about efficient use of resources as much as I used to
17:09.05FinI mean, I spent a lot of money on hardware that's supposed to let me stop worrying about it :)
17:09.08kergothhehe
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17:09.28kergothi care about really, really bad cpu usage, but small amounts i really dont give a shit about, and even the big ones depend on the usefulness
17:09.37kergothi mean, questhelper sucks up 10 of my fps, but i dont care, i use it anyway
17:09.48Finalthough, in my own code, I care a lot more
17:09.53kergothhehe
17:09.57kergothi'd hope so
17:10.11Finhey, yeah! me too! it's a horrible resource hog, it even makes the world map jerk if you keep it open with lots of quests going on :)
17:10.15Osstiayeah, our fishing tournament is a joke
17:10.18Finit's so great though
17:10.33Osstiaits a 10 man gank crew protecting 1 fisherman
17:10.39Osstiaand its still that way every week
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17:12.50HjalteIs there any use at all for Curse of Exhaustion on the Kael'thas fight?
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17:17.21sb_hm - dont think so
17:17.30sb_use CoS on weapons :)
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17:20.08[dRaCo]is there any addon out there to make chat channels "sticky"?
17:20.15kergothlots
17:20.28[dRaCo]as simple as possible, please ;)
17:20.57kergothsimplechatmods/basicchatmods/etc do it, but they also include other functionality
17:21.01kergothsame with cirk's chatmanager, prat..
17:21.07kergothdont know of one to /just/ do that offhand
17:21.33[dRaCo]k, thx anyway. guess I'm gonna check one of those
17:21.41Ellipsismost of them you can disable everything but that one feature
17:21.52Ellipsismumble is another
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17:24.07Fisker-oops Ellipsis
17:24.25Ellipsisoops?
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17:24.50Fisker-i pooped on you :(
17:24.53Ellipsis=[
17:24.59Ellipsisnaughty Fisker-
17:25.27PaeneO_O
17:25.38[SW]Dodgeis it possible to use TomTom AND carto?
17:25.43IndustrialI has buffs/debuffs \o/ http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5750/wowscrnshot011408182404yh2.jpg
17:25.59Industrial[SW]Dodge: try and see.
17:26.19Ellipsisoh shi-
17:26.55kergothwegame.com is pretty nifty
17:27.21kergothIndustrial: what ya workign on? oUF layout or a custom uf/
17:27.39sb_Industrial: uhm...
17:27.47Industrialcustom uf
17:27.53Industrialsb_: ?
17:28.01sb_looks... empty :o
17:28.02Industrialkergoth: I just ripped it from oUF tho
17:28.03IndustrialxD
17:28.06kergothah
17:28.07kergothhehe
17:31.06CIA-403paene * r58482 10Cryolysis2/messages/ (7 files):
17:31.06CIA-4Cryolysis2:
17:31.06CIA-4- Fixed a bug that allowed the same spell message to be played over and over again.
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17:41.07cncfanaticsHi all !
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17:51.54kebinusanCan you change guild rank permissions through an api call?  For example, Id like to cycle through all guild ranks enabling/disabling repairs from the guild bank
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17:53.37cncfanaticskebinusan, they're not protected, so probably yes
17:53.41cncfanaticsdo'nt ask me what the api is though
17:53.57kebinusanheh
17:54.30kebinusanthe guild management interface really sucks ass
17:56.13ParadoxI updated atlasloot and my wow is crashing periodicall ;-;
17:56.14Paradoxy
17:56.17kebinusanIf Id like to enable repairs from the guild bank for a night I have to go and change two things for each rank I have raiders
17:56.30OsstiaParadox: you have a specific error?
17:56.41nevcairielgood that we only have 2 ranks with raiders :P
17:56.56CIA-403paene * r58483 10Cryolysis2/ (buttons/sphere.lua core/events.lua core/options.lua):
17:56.56CIA-4Cryolysis2:
17:56.56CIA-4- Set a step size of .1 for all scale sliders
17:56.56CIA-4- Fixed main sphere's evocation cooldown display saying 0 instead of Ready
17:57.26Paradoxhttp://pastebin.com/m16b2c46f
17:58.18kebinusanOfficers, Raiders, and Recruits, 3 for me, still Id like to be able to run a /script command or a toggle for efficiency sake
17:59.53m4rku5kebinusan, have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Guild_Bank_Functions
18:01.14m4rku5kebinusan, i guess  u need http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GuildControlSetRankFlag but the documentation is outdated
18:01.30kebinusanm4rku5: yeah I was looking at that
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18:09.25CIA-403pettigrow * r58484 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: frFR Update
18:11.24Paradoxcan an addon cause crashes?
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18:11.40cncfanaticsParadox: occasionaly, yes
18:11.48Paradoxall i've done since last night is update some atlasloot with WAU and i'm crashing in wow from 5-20mins after starting it
18:11.54cncfanaticsthats weird
18:12.01cncfanaticswhat is crashing ?
18:12.04cncfanaticsthe game locking up ?
18:12.08cncfanaticsor really crashing to a crash window
18:12.14Paradoxcrash window
18:12.20Paradoxwhere you can send the error report
18:13.28cncfanaticsthats unusual for an addon
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18:14.46m4rku5kebinusan, mind if i PM you about that guildpermissions stuff ? ;P
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18:15.59CIA-403kneeki * r58485 10BlessingBar/ (5 files):
18:15.59CIA-4BlessingBar:
18:15.59CIA-4- Initial commit.
18:16.31kebinusansure
18:16.35Paradoxdamnit, dead this time I login after crashing
18:16.47PolarinaIs there a addon that replaces the Blizzard's error frame and shows the stack trace when a Lua error occurs?
18:17.43Silviu-Bugsack + Buggrabber
18:18.24PolarinaI don't like these. Makes me require to write a slash command to see the error...
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18:18.40Silviu-If u have fubar works there :P
18:18.48PolarinaI don't use fubar.
18:18.56CIA-403kneeki * r58486 10SealBar/ (. SealBar.lua SealBar.toc Template.xml localization.lua):
18:18.56CIA-4SealBar:
18:18.56CIA-4- Initial commit.
18:19.00Silviu-It should work on minimap too or ?
18:19.11KeiasYeah, Bugsack will attach to the minimap
18:19.21kagaro_Bugsack _+ buggraber adds a minimap button if no fubar
18:19.38kergothPolarina: i use !swatter personally, the one that comes with auctioneer/enchantrix/etc
18:20.07kagaro_I stopped using auctioner a while ago, Ysera AH is awful
18:20.07Brunersi have found swatter to be the biggest piece of shit availble
18:20.20kagaro_alliance side anyways
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18:20.47kergothBruners: how so?
18:21.11kergothworks fine here, the only annoyance for me is that it always saves errors in SV, so i never know which in the list of errors were from a previous load and which are the current session
18:21.25kergothi'd rather it just didnt save anything, personally
18:21.56Ellipsismake its SV file read-only :P
18:22.05kergothhehe, true
18:22.08KeiasI'll make you read-only >:|
18:22.11EllipsisO.O
18:22.19EllipsisI rather enjoy being written to, tyvm
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18:22.23Brunerskergoth: alot of addon that i used before crashed when i was using swatter
18:22.39KeiasI envy you, I'm scared of needles
18:22.40kergothshrug, works fine for me, and i have 268 addons in my addons dir
18:22.46kergothheh
18:22.54CIA-403alar * r58487 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc):
18:22.54CIA-4AlarLib
18:22.54CIA-4Added daily quest riepilog to fuBar Panel
18:23.06kagaro_someone wana try out GatherMate for a little bit and let me know how cpu/mem consumption is for you ?
18:23.08Brunerskergoth: i havent used it for a long time tho, so might have been fixed
18:23.11Ellipsiswhat's a riepilog?
18:23.36KeiasEllipsis, you're in here enough to know all the weird shit that goes on with those Alar-addons
18:23.37Keias:P
18:23.39kergothevery time i find stuff to remove from my addons dir, i find other stuff to add. it's annoying as hell
18:23.51Ellipsisthat was kinda my point Keias :P
18:23.52KeiasI run into the same issue kergoth :(
18:23.58Paradox:((((( my wow keeps crashing!"
18:23.58CIA-403alar * r58488 10AlarBGHelper/ (7 files):
18:23.58CIA-4AlarBGHelper
18:23.58CIA-4More localized strings added
18:24.01cncfanaticsthat alar is really the worst coder ever
18:24.07cncfanaticsAT LEAST he should god damn join this chan
18:24.08Keiaslol
18:24.13cncfanaticsso we can explain him why he sucks and should change his habbits
18:24.30Silviu-;))
18:25.22Ellipsis187 addons and 11.8MB interface dir /flex
18:25.33m4rku5can you use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage to print an array for debugging ?
18:25.57Brunersi have 244 41mb
18:26.20kergothheh, mine's probably a lot bigger than that, but due to 40 or so svn checkouts, and 10-20 git clones.  metadata ftl
18:26.27kagaro_*cry* my mac is backorder :(
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18:27.02kagaro_kegoth: go loadup gathermate and give me an opinion on cpu/mem for you
18:27.12Ellipsisof course a good chunk of those addons are duplicates and thus disabled when I actually log in
18:27.32Ellipsis(because I use different alternatives for the same thing depending on which character I'm on...I'm complicated like that)
18:27.39sag_ich_nichterm
18:27.40sag_ich_nichtwait what.
18:27.41Ellipsis...ow
18:27.42Keiasuh oh
18:27.42Stanzillaihhhh colors!
18:27.43sag_ich_nichtbad script.
18:27.55Keiasmp3 script, omg
18:27.58sag_ich_nichtno
18:28.01sag_ich_nichti was going to make a joke
18:28.01sag_ich_nichtbut
18:28.04sag_ich_nichtthe script ruined it.
18:28.04Keiaslol
18:28.05sag_ich_nichtanyway
18:28.07haste192kbps >:(
18:28.08sag_ich_nichtlet's try that again
18:28.16sag_ich_nichtthis is Ellipsis' themesong.
18:28.17m4rku5lol
18:28.22Paradoxnnn the error is saying something about memory not being read... i've loosened my ram timings to default and see how it goes
18:28.40sag_ich_nichtDIE FOOLISH WARLOCK!
18:28.40*** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (MY EYES)
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18:28.43Ellipsisoh snap
18:28.44Keiaslol
18:28.47sag_ich_nichtoh snap, a kick!
18:28.48m4rku5lol
18:28.52kergoth:P
18:28.58sag_ich_nichtpff
18:28.59Stanzillaboo
18:29.01hastethe googles do nothing!
18:29.07sag_ich_nichtnoob.
18:29.16EllipsisHAX
18:29.24sag_ich_nichtno hax
18:29.27sag_ich_nichtjust burst damage lol
18:29.51sag_ich_nichtAutoswing Seal of Command Crusader Strike Judgement.
18:30.16sag_ich_nichthello 14k damage in ~1.5 seconds.
18:30.21Ellipsishttp://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1197918768-23360-less.jpg
18:30.33KeiasAgreed ^
18:30.39sag_ich_nichtyou can not nerf me, foolish warlock!
18:30.49KeiasThey just gotta drain mana you
18:30.53KeiasAnd watch you auto attack until dead
18:30.54Keias<PROTECTED>
18:31.08sag_ich_nichti just bubble and kill them in 12 seconds, Keias
18:31.08sag_ich_nicht:>
18:31.10Ellipsissrsly, couple fears/seduces and some drain mana spam
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18:31.35kneekiMana Drain should get + damage effects imo
18:31.41sag_ich_nichtget the fuck out
18:32.05Ellipsiskneeki: I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
18:32.09Fisker-why don't you die sag_ich_nicht ?:I
18:32.09sag_ich_nichtif that's not enough, repentance, heal up, if they waste their insignia on repentenace stun them and nuke them again. :>
18:32.18kneeki;)
18:32.18sag_ich_nichtpaladin, Fisker-
18:32.24sag_ich_nichtalso Ellipsis ur doin it rong
18:32.24NeoTronkergoth: so I've started buying uncut metagems and cutting relentless earthstorm and chaotic skyfire diamons
18:32.34NeoTronkergoth: seems to net about 15-25g per each
18:32.37Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: no u
18:32.55PrimerNeoTron: how is that? I just picked up earthstorm transmute
18:33.06Primerbut it seems the mats would sell for more
18:33.15sag_ich_nichtit's: Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
18:33.38kergothNeoTron: nice
18:33.44sag_ich_nicht(or "and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter")
18:33.54EllipsisI wish to unsubscribe from sag_ich_nicht's newsletter
18:33.56Ellipsiswho's with me?
18:33.58PrimerI also picked up primal earth -> primal water
18:34.02m4rku5Ellipsis, signed !
18:34.22kergothPrimer: personally, i fish up pure water once a day to get the 2 primal waters for my alchy's transmute, and just buy the primal earths, and i have green gems coming out my ears, so thats like 10g for the primal earths -> an earthstorm, once a day
18:34.27sag_ich_nichtEllipsis but you're ruining the simpsons quote!
18:34.45Primerkergoth: my main's a miner, I also have tons of the crappy gems
18:34.54Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: I don't care :P
18:35.07EllipsisI don't watch simpsons or get any of the references people make
18:35.26Ellipsismy favorite thing to do is misquote frequently abused references and ruin them
18:35.30Ellipsisit seems to help people get over them faster =]
18:35.47Paenelol
18:35.54Primerkergoth: how much does each diamond sell for on your realm? It's about 80-90 on mine (Gorgonnash)
18:35.59Primerlast I checked, that is
18:36.01Paenehow can you not watch the simpsons? :-p
18:36.02KeiasI thought I was the only person alive who didn't like the Simpsons
18:36.05Paenewhat about family guy?
18:36.05kergotharound the same on mine
18:36.13kergoth~emulate peter
18:36.13purlYou know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you.
18:36.24Paenelol
18:36.35m4rku5kergoth, i wont come after people not joining your party ;D
18:36.41m4rku5im too lazy ;D
18:36.46EllipsisI don't watch any TV
18:37.03KeiasHow dare you
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18:37.06EllipsisI liked the episodes of family guy I've seen
18:37.12Ellipsisbut I just don't watch stuff regularly
18:37.14Paenefamily guy is funny
18:37.16Paenemeh
18:37.16KeiasI have to at least watch Venture Bros
18:37.19Paenejust watch it online
18:37.21m4rku5TV owns ;P
18:37.26m4rku5ive got 80gig of stargate here ;o
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18:37.56kergoth~emulate peter
18:37.57purlNOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying?
18:39.10m4rku5anyone know i DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() can print out an array ?
18:39.31Ellipsisit can if you write a function to loop through the array and print each value
18:39.33Ellipsis:P
18:39.42m4rku5damnit ;D
18:39.59m4rku5guess i gotta save it as saved variable and then open that file
18:40.01m4rku5since im tooo lazy ;D
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18:41.39Xinhuanheh
18:41.55kergothhttp://indexed.blogspot.com/2008/01/clearly-unbalanced.html booored
18:42.01kergoth~emulate peter
18:42.02purlNow, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man.
18:42.03CIA-403paene * r58489 10Cryolysis2/Locales/Locale-esES.lua:
18:42.03CIA-4Cryolysis2:
18:42.03CIA-4- Added Spanish localization
18:42.36Paeneamazing
18:43.32m4rku5Xinhuan, since ure uber ;P u sure know how to change the guildbank permissions via API dont u ? ;P
18:43.52Xinhuanits possible, but i don't recommend it
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18:43.58Xinhuanyou have to change each rank one by one
18:44.05Xinhuanyou can't change many ranks at a go
18:44.11m4rku5yeah well kebinusan wanted to know that
18:44.18Xinhuani saw his thread
18:44.18CIA-403kneeki * r58490 10BlessingBar/:
18:44.18CIA-4BlessingBar:
18:44.18CIA-4- Added externals
18:44.26m4rku5and i wanted to make a small addon that enabled gbank repairs
18:44.33m4rku5like u can check the ranks in the dropdown
18:44.44m4rku5and it changes the permissions
18:44.47CIA-403kneeki * r58491 10SealBar/:
18:44.47CIA-4SealBar:
18:44.47CIA-4- Added externals.
18:44.56m4rku5but wowwiki doenst have any info on that yet
18:45.01Xinhuanwell, i never actually tried it, but i think you cannot apply the changes to multiple ranks, you must wait for a server acknowlegdement before you can apply changes to the next rank, etc
18:45.24m4rku5so id have to queuee up my changes ;P
18:45.48Xinhuanyes so by the time you figure out how to write such an addon, you would just have done the changes manually ingame in about 30 secs anyway
18:46.20m4rku5yeah i guess so ;)
18:46.26kebinusanXinhuan: yeah but I enable repairs a couple times a week for all our raiding ranks for progression raids, and disable ot for non raid days/farm content
18:46.43Xinhuanand how many raiding ranks do you have? :)
18:46.47kebinusan3
18:46.54Xinhuan10 secs per rank!
18:46.56Xinhuan30 secs
18:47.10m4rku5i guess a FuBar Addon where u just click on a rank and then it updates the permissions would be nice to have ;)
18:47.13kebinusanIt'd just be nice to run a /script blah or click a button to toggle it tho
18:47.16Xinhuanto be honest, i would rather just hand out gold directly
18:47.22Xinhuanto the various class leaders to distribute
18:47.31Paenepsh, class leaders
18:47.33Paenewho uses those
18:47.34m4rku5i like the idea ;P
18:47.46kenlyricand travel back in time to 2006 to find class leaders
18:47.54m4rku5we actually still have some ;o
18:48.03Xinhuanclass leaders are good for recruitment
18:48.10m4rku5yep recruitment
18:48.17Paeneclass leaders are pointless as of TBC imo, with a lot of classes having only 1 or 2 raid spots, it's more work than it's worth
18:48.19m4rku5solving class internal problem
18:48.20Xinhuanbecause only people that actually play the class and play it well will know what to look out for
18:48.31kenlyricPaene: and those spots being specced quite differently.
18:48.33m4rku5well i as a guild leader
18:48.35Xinhuanas well as for subbing people in and out of raids within the same class, loot, etc
18:48.38m4rku5it saves me lots of time
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18:48.41kenlyricimagine a priest class leader.
18:48.43PaeneI'm a GM as well
18:48.52Paenehave been for over 2 years now
18:49.27Xinhuanyour "class leader" doesn't have to be truly by class
18:49.39Xinhuanit can be "tank leader" "healer leader" "ranged dps leader"
18:49.42Paenewe had group leaders for awhile, Casters, Healers, Physical DPS
18:49.43kenlyricI prefer role leaders.
18:49.57m4rku5we have a mixture of that ;P
18:49.59Xinhuanbut its important they know what they are doing
18:50.01Paenewe just have 3 officers
18:50.02kenlyricyeah, that's what lots of people do.
18:50.09kenlyricit's not the same as class leader :)
18:50.24Xinhuanhealer - is a class of raiders
18:50.28Xinhuantank - is a class of raiders :)
18:50.29Paenemyself, the raid leader, and an officer to make sure me and the RL don't kill each other and balance loot decisions
18:50.56m4rku5so has anyone figured out how to change the guild bank permissions yet ? what ids they have in the API etc ?
18:51.10Xinhuanif i bother to look at it, maybe i'll figure something out
18:51.41m4rku5Xinhuan, may I pm you ? ;P
18:51.46Xinhuansure
18:52.17Paeneugh, not looking forward to Kael attempts
18:52.30kebinusankael is alot easier to learn than vashj
18:52.40kebinusanwell imo anyway
18:52.41Paenereally? Vashj wasn't all that bad...
18:52.46kebinusanalot less random shit
18:52.51Paenecool
18:53.11m4rku5kebinusan, well kael requires skilled people ;D
18:53.18Paenewe got Vashj down in 2.5 weeks...prob would have been sooner if it hadn't been for the holidays
18:53.21m4rku5vashj requires people to learn the encounter ;P
18:53.30kebinusanwell, I dont know about skilled people but it requires retaining knowledge about how the fight progresses and such
18:53.46m4rku5vashj took us not too long 2 weeks i guess
18:53.57Ozguli`http://www.wowbash.com/image-1608.html
18:53.59m4rku5but kael was like 7 weeks (ok our raid leader quit and we had to find a new one)
18:54.01Ozguli`such awesome battlegroup I have
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18:54.12NeoTronm4rku5: wow
18:54.20kebinusanWe're learning archimonde right now, which is really unforgiving with one person screwing up
18:54.22m4rku5yeah;P
18:54.22NeoTronwell
18:54.27m4rku5well we are back on track now
18:54.29NeoTronkael'thas IS the hardest mofo
18:54.34NeoTronwe had over 100 attempts before a kill
18:54.37m4rku5were @ council now
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18:54.51NeoTronarchimonde is the only one coming close really
18:54.55NeoTronbecause it's so easy to wipe the raid
18:55.33kebinusanYeah, after I started docking DKP for deaths by airburst we stopped having people crater
18:55.53kebinusansad really
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18:57.02Xinhuani just read all the details of illidan fight T_T
18:57.07Xinhuanwhat a complicated bitch
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18:58.01pb_ee1heya
18:59.21nevcairielAntiar1: Illidan p1->p2 didnt reset global threat correctly, some players vanished from the list like expected, but two shadow priests staied
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19:00.32Xinhuanpossible those 2 priests didn't have an updated omen?
19:01.33Xinhuanin the past
19:01.45Xinhuanyou could just type /split 1000000
19:01.54Xinhuanand that would split 100g to everyone in your raid :D
19:02.02Xinhuanor 4g each hehe
19:02.17nevcairielpossible, but i thought when one issues a reset
19:02.23nevcairieleveryone resets
19:02.25nevcairielno matter what
19:02.45m4rku5haha /split is funny ;P
19:04.09genetik-hmm.. apparently ctprofiles is back
19:05.18Fisker-owld Xinhuan :O
19:05.25Fisker-i asked slouken to remove it
19:05.35Fisker-because chinese scammers were sploitzing it
19:06.14kebinusansplit was fun
19:06.18m4rku5back in the days they invited you and asked you to type /split 100000 because they needed to test something
19:06.27m4rku5and all those dumb guys just typed in /split
19:06.28m4rku5lol
19:06.37kenlyricthat's  just an  odd function.
19:06.40kenlyricwhat's it for?
19:06.51m4rku5to share loot
19:06.58kenlyricgold is already split.
19:07.02alextsaw the kael talk, on week 4 of kael right now
19:07.03m4rku5back in the days when it was needed to /split ;)
19:07.08alextthat shit does take forever
19:07.08alextlol
19:07.10ag`did blizzard change the raid filter?
19:07.19Fisker-there was no day when it was needed to /split
19:07.31kenlyricmaybe in old MMOs?
19:07.31ag`what it returns if you pass 1 to the last argument in UnitAura
19:07.32m4rku5Fisker-, u could with masterlook take all the gold someway iirc
19:07.33Fisker-atleast not after release
19:07.39kenlyricthe same reason we have /camp
19:07.42m4rku5masterloot *
19:08.15Fisker-i believe the thing there were was that dead people didn't recieve loot
19:08.19Fisker-i mean gold
19:08.25Fisker-i believe that was the case at a point
19:08.45CIA-403xinhuan 07Talents * r58492 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Commit whatever I edited yesterday.
19:08.56Fisker-but yeah it's mostly legacy i guess
19:09.06m4rku5absolutely legacy ;P
19:09.57PaeneWas sraidframes fixed yet? Anyone know?
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19:15.14PaenePing Vulcanus
19:15.35VulcanusPong Paene :p
19:15.40Paene:)
19:15.45Paeneyou get that message back?
19:15.56PaeneI'm not using an actual IRC client...so not sure if it's working
19:16.08Vulcanusnah I just replied it to my highlight
19:16.42Paenehuh?
19:16.44Paenelol
19:16.53exor674Paene: if you aren't using an IRCclient, what ARE you using?
19:17.21dodgaTelnet.
19:17.22dodga:>
19:17.24Paenewell...it's technically an IRC client, but it's not anywhere near what a normal one is
19:17.28PaeneI'm using Pidgin
19:17.29Paenefor IRC
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19:17.47m4rku5haha telnet would be funny
19:18.06PaeneI remember using telnet for battle.net bots for StarCraft
19:18.16kergothi remember irc'ing with telnet for a bit back in the day, my ircii got hosed somehow
19:18.36exor674well, I IRC with telnet for fun sometimes
19:18.36dodgaWhat's so funny using telnet for IRC? It's a plaintext protocol :>
19:18.37Fisker-man
19:18.51Fisker-if only the stupid community team would remove incgamers from the fansite program
19:18.53Fisker-:I
19:18.59EllipsisPING dodga
19:19.00Ellipsis:P
19:19.11Finthe term "plaintext protocol" implies that telnet and all the related arseachreis not hideously complicated and
19:19.13dodgaUuuh.. lemme check the RFC :>
19:19.17Finer, hm
19:19.31Fin-reis+e is
19:19.34dodgaPONG 1247676 :Ellipsis
19:19.35dodga? :>
19:19.39Fin+painful
19:20.03CIA-403shamino * r58493 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.lua:
19:20.03CIA-4Auction-1.0:
19:20.03CIA-4- added support for Auc-Advanced (Auctioneer 5.0)
19:20.22Fisker-wuts dis?
19:20.51exor674PRIVMSG dodga :\001VERSION\001
19:21.17dodgaI refuse to reply to CTCP :P
19:22.08exor674:P
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19:30.15CIA-403shamino * r58494 10EnchantingSell/ (5 files):
19:30.15CIA-4EnchantingSell:
19:30.15CIA-4- added waterfall and tablet embeds
19:30.15CIA-4- added Options GUI frame, via Waterfall
19:30.15CIA-4- Shift-Click minimap icon to open Options
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19:33.02PaeneVulcanus: You working on the messages at all?
19:33.10VulcanusNo, I'm in Kara atm :p
19:33.14Paeneah ok
19:33.15Paenelol
19:33.20PaeneI'll mess with them then
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19:40.45VulcanusWhats wrong then? That sheep on portal bug report made no sense
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19:55.37NeoTronI'm halfway done with swapping gathering profs for my chars
19:55.54NeoTronI levelled herbs on my alchemist and now, sometime in the future, will level mining on my JC
19:56.21CIA-403peragor * r58495 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:
19:56.21CIA-4GridStatusHealer:
19:56.21CIA-4- Changed incoming healamount modifier formula to be more accurate
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19:56.44futurekillknow there's a mod out there that monitors the time left on buffs for a group but I can't remember the name.  It looked sort of like ElkBuffBars but I don't think that was it.  Anyone know what I'm talking about or am I delusional?
19:57.20ckknightwell, you are delusional, no doubt about that
19:57.37Xinhuanhahaha
19:57.39futurekillok, now that we've gotten that out of the way...any other ideas?
19:57.44ckknightnot sure
19:57.50ckknightI've used SmartBuff in the past
19:58.11Xinhuancould it be NECB?
19:58.20futurekillnot sure...lemme take a look at those
19:59.19ckknightcan I hock my blog at you people?
19:59.28futurekillnope, wasn't either of those
19:59.48Reclusefuturekill: for buffs that you cast yourself? DoTimer looks like that (has a buff module) http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3260/
20:00.29ckknightwell, I'ma do it anyway since nobody said that I couldn't: http://withoutreproach.blogspot.com/
20:00.35ckknighthas nothing to do with WoW ...yet
20:00.40ckknightmostly just my meanderings
20:01.16futurekillckknight: that's most blogs though isn't it?
20:01.32ckknightyea, but I write well and am funny
20:01.35ckknightalso, I'm not emo
20:01.49ckknightthus, I excel above the majority of said blogs
20:01.55Recluselol
20:02.40futurekillRecluse: looks close but that looks like it just tracks hots and dots, not buffs on the raid/party
20:02.57Reclusefuturekill: that does those as well
20:03.30CIA-403shamino * r58496 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSellFu.lua:
20:03.30CIA-4EnchantingSell:
20:03.30CIA-4- fixed mixin name
20:03.33Reclusein modules, so you can turn on/off what you want... well, it's prolly close anyhow, but it's not just buffs lol
20:03.55m4rku5Xinhuan, we just downed the council too ;)
20:03.57Chompersharhar EYEBROWS
20:04.01m4rku5took us some hours more then you guys ;P
20:04.20Xinhuanhehe he isn't hard
20:04.35Recluse(female ones, but) i think eyebrows are the most attractive part of a person
20:04.36Xinhuanwe downed 3 new bosses this week though - ros to council
20:06.04m4rku5we killed ros 6 days ago
20:06.32ckknightChompers: it was a serious issue I had
20:06.33ckknight:-P
20:11.12Reclusei find the sound yetis make as you grind them very soothing, often lulling me to sleep in my computer chair
20:11.35Xinhuan:o
20:11.36Ellipsisyou too?
20:11.39Ellipsisfor me it's furbolgs
20:11.39PaeneVulcanus: There were some conflicts resulting from when you turn off a type of message, the RandMess variable wasn't cleared.  So the next spell that could potentially have messages was outputting the previously used message.  To put it simply using an example, I changed the code so that if polymorph messages were turned off, then RandMess would be ""...then changed the print function to only print when RandMess wasn't empty.  There wer
20:11.50Reclusehehe
20:11.54Vulcanusoic
20:12.19RaydenUi haven't killed a yet in a while
20:12.19Reclusebut i love to grind them and ogres more than any other mobs in game
20:12.23RaydenUi forget what they sound like
20:12.24Vulcanusthe easiest solution would be to just null out RandMess before even checking if any random message was going to be displayed
20:12.29RaydenUeven more than murlocs?
20:12.40Vulcanusand of course that function change
20:12.46Reclusemurlocs would have to be somewhere near the bottom of my list of things i like to grind
20:13.45RaydenUi hate grinding the scorpions
20:13.46RaydenUnot sure why
20:13.51RaydenUi just dont like killing them
20:14.26Recluse:)
20:14.50VulcanusPaene did you read that? =p
20:14.55PaeneVulcanus: if we did that, then it would print a bunch of empty strings :)
20:15.11VulcanusI said "and of course that function change"
20:15.31VulcanusTo me it sounds like you null out the var only if poly messages are turned off
20:15.31RaydenUit might be the high pitched noise they make
20:15.45exor674I love killing low-level murlocs
20:16.00exor674haha! run up to a camp, throw SoC on everything I can see
20:16.03RaydenUi NEVER fought any murlocs on my first character
20:16.09RaydenUwhere would a horde character find them?
20:16.11exor674enjoy mass genocide
20:16.26PaeneRight, if we null it out beforehand when the messages are off, then you lose the functionality to avoid randomly repeating the same message back to back
20:16.34Paene*messages are omn
20:16.37Paene**on
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20:17.38VulcanusNo you don't, check the random generator code, Im pretty sure it checks for that
20:17.43RecluseRaydenU: low level horde murlocs in blood elf and undead start zones
20:17.56Vulcanusbesides, IMO it should just be a random number, and if that happens to be the same as last time, who cares :p
20:17.59RaydenUyeah but before that, that was the first placed i met murlocs
20:18.19Paenelol, I'm not the one who wrote the initial random message code :-p
20:19.18VulcanusI know
20:19.40Paenebut referring to clearing out RandMess before generating a new message...the random message code compares RandMess to the new string to see if they are the same.  So if you clear out RandMess, you'd lose the non-repeating functionality
20:19.55Paeneeither way, this way works, even if it isn't the cleanest way to code it
20:19.55Vulcanusare you shuar aboutt hat
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20:20.12Paenepretty sure, unless I misread it...where were you thinking of nulling out RandMess exactly?
20:20.14Xinhuan"Survival Instincts" does this hunter talent increase both AP and RAP?
20:20.39VulcanusNah never mind, I see what you mean.
20:20.43futurekillok, I think I found the mod I was talking about...it's called PerfectRaid (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html)...anyone ever use it?
20:21.10Paenekk, I'll just commit, if you see something you don't like...you can change it :-p
20:21.27durcynfuturekill: i've used perfectraid since it existed, why do you ask?
20:21.33Vulcanuswait :p
20:21.42Paene?
20:21.45VulcanusThen the easiest way would be to just set a boolean DoPrintMess or something that's false by default and set to true if a CreateRandom_ function is called
20:22.23futurekilldurcyn: is it easy to set up? one of the healers in my guild was looking for something that was easy to set up, would show all raid members and buffs they had (with time left)
20:22.31VulcanusOR create a random message variable for each different message type
20:22.47cladhairefuturekill: praid doesn't show time left, intentionally
20:22.51durcynfuturekill: no, it doesn't show buff timers.
20:22.59futurekilldamn
20:23.21Vulcanuswhich may even be a better solution since it keeps true duplicate checking intact - if #2 on portals fired then #3 on sheep may have been the last sheep message
20:23.35Paenehm...
20:23.44Paenetrue
20:24.05futurekillI've been trying to get people to use XRS but am encountering some resistance for some reason.  I think people are just too lazy to set it up.  It'd be cool if I could send them a config in game.
20:24.19VulcanusBut on the other hand, that would make it less OOPy unless we convert RandMess to an array of messages
20:24.38Vulcanuslike, RandMess["pig"], RandMess["sheep"] etc
20:24.40Paenethe SendMessage function would have to be moved....or adjusted to use the correct RandMess variable based on spellcast
20:24.43Paeneyeah
20:25.02VulcanusIdea:
20:25.07durcynfuturekill: praid will show people who are lacking buffs you can cast though, why would you need a timer?
20:25.26durcynfuturekill: just target them and look for the duration on your target buff tracking or something
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20:25.52VulcanusRandMess["pig"]["message"] = "lolmessage"; RandMess["pig"]["DoPrint"] = true;
20:26.41VulcanusThen have each CreateRandom_ check if the DoPrint is true, if it is, then set that into a .RandMessage variable (a new private)
20:26.46VulcanusWhich can then be nulled
20:26.54Vulcanusand preserve all functionality
20:27.38Paenewouldn't the DoPrint be the equivalent of the TeleMessage, PortalMessage, PolyMessage, and RitualMessage variables?
20:27.57Paene(those are the ones affected by the checkboxes)
20:28.34Vulcanuseuhm... yeah... I was just checking if you was paying attention! *cough* yes
20:28.38Paenelol
20:29.21VulcanusSo ok just make the RandMess["pig"] = "lolmessage"  etc and the new .Private.RandMessage variable
20:30.43futurekilldurcyn: That's what I've been telling them to do really, or, like I said, use XRS...my main is a warlock so I really don't have any useful raid buffs and as such isn't a problem for me.  I'm not really sure why they wanted to know the time left...seemed a little silly to me.
20:31.27durcynfuturekill: not sure what part of telling people to click off their buffs if the time left is low is difficult to understand...
20:31.53futurekilldurcyn: I agree.
20:32.12durcynthe solution then, is to raise your voice.
20:33.07PaeneVulcanus: lemme get this straight, RandMess["pig] holds the last pig message string, and .Private.RandMessage is the string to be output?
20:33.16futurekilldurcyn: yeah, got the GM to do that a couple times and it has worked but the real solution is to get people to pay attention and do their job.
20:33.20Paene*RandMess["pig"]
20:34.16Vulcanusyeah, and the RandMessage is nulled and checked for nonempty before each output
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20:39.01NeoTronanyone happen to know what size PSU would be good for a GeForce 8800 GT? I think I have a power issue but I don't know how to really figure that out w/o buying a new psu ant testing
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20:39.28Arrowmasterhow many watts is your psu?
20:39.47Ellipsistest it by disconnecting a couple of pieces of power-hungry hardware that you don't need to boot?
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20:40.11Twist-I'm squeaking by with a 250 watt PSU and an 8800 GT
20:40.21Arrowmasterwow
20:40.24Recluse250? o.O
20:40.27Arrowmasterhow is that even possible
20:40.38AmadeoPeople think you need a lot more power than you actually do
20:40.41NeoTron520W
20:40.49NeoTron2x18A @ 12v
20:41.09NeoTronproblem is if I down underclock the card, I crash
20:41.13AmadeoAll these 800W power supplied out there, I can't even imagine how you'd use it all
20:41.18Amadeosupplies, too
20:41.18Arrowmasteri cant even remember what my psu is, its either 500, 550, or 600
20:41.26Arrowmasterand this system was built in 03
20:41.27exor674I've got a.... bleh, I forget what it is 450 mebbe
20:41.33Twist-I have a relatively low power CPU, and very few other devices..  I was kind of surprised that it worked, TBH.
20:41.41NeoTronand it's not a heat isue - I recorded one crash when it was under 50C and not even hot to the touch
20:41.52exor674with 2 hard drives, 2 CD drives, a Radeon 9800 and like 4/5 fans
20:42.10NeoTron2HD, 1DVD, 1 sound card, 1 nix, Athlon X2 4400
20:42.17NeoTrons/nix/nic/
20:42.34NeoTronwent from a GF 7800 GLX
20:42.34CIA-403trasher * r58497 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
20:42.34CIA-4AtlasLoot:
20:42.34CIA-4- french update
20:42.52Arrowmaster5 HDDs, 1 DVD, Athlon XP 3000+, ATI X800XTPE
20:43.06Twist-otoh, my hard drive failed last week.
20:43.08exor674Amadeo: you'd probably need an 800 if you had a server-size case with every HDD slot full
20:43.17Twist-probably not related, but.. >.>
20:43.18exor674including hard drives in the CD slots
20:43.19Amadeoexor674: yeah, hehe
20:43.20NeoTronNVidia recommends 1000W if you go SLI
20:43.26exor674er, server size case I mean like a serer tower
20:43.26PaeneVulcanus: Is "if spellName == Cryolysis2.Private.HasPortMenuPort[i] then" a mistake or intentional?  It's comparing a boolean to a string...
20:43.27NeoTron450 if you don't
20:43.28Matrix110|Yeah do you know why?
20:43.41Matrix110|Because every moron buys SUPERSILENT FLOWER POWER PSU for 20€
20:43.51Matrix110|and expects them to work perfectly
20:43.54NightHawkAtWorkwow, this is epic win. http://missedmanners.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/battle-of-pelennor-fields/
20:44.16exor674I've got a case with about.... 15 harddrive bays I think haha
20:44.22Twist-the problem is that people are paying attention to wattage, and none to amperage on the 12v rails..
20:44.30Twist-which is actually what matters.
20:44.39VulcanusPaene, it's not a boolean
20:44.47VulcanusI told you already, I changed the code for it
20:44.51Arrowmasteralso need to pay attention to the actual voltages
20:45.00NeoTronhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103512 535W even
20:45.09Arrowmastera lot of cheap psu's arent within 5%
20:45.24PaeneVulcanus: I could have sworn I checked the options and it was still a boolean...maybe I'm imagining things...
20:45.54VulcanusIn the options maybe, but not in the button code
20:45.59NeoTronin BIOS the 12v rail was just about 12v
20:46.07Vulcanuswhere it was set to true earlier, it's now set to the proper name
20:46.08NeoTronbut when I try to measure in windows the program I had sais 0
20:46.11Vulcanusthe BS[] name
20:46.21NeoTronanyone know of a good program to monitor voltages?
20:46.29Matrix110|Bios and progs normally fail getting voltages
20:46.32Matrix110|they arent reliable
20:46.40ArrowmasterNeoTron: programes have to be configured to the exact motherboard and sensor chips for voltages
20:46.56Arrowmastertrust the bios
20:47.10NeoTronah but I don't run the gfx card at full go while looking in the bios
20:47.13Arrowmastermake sure everything is within 5% of what it should be
20:47.15Matrix110|Bios is the most accurate one but well cant test under load
20:47.24NeoTronso if I have a load issue it wouldn't necessarily be correct
20:47.38NeoTronsince it does work when underclocked it can very well be that under full load it MIGHT fail
20:47.55Matrix110|What PSU are you using?
20:48.04kebinusannvidia rates their gpus for peak load as well dont they?
20:48.14Matrix110|yes kebinusan
20:48.25Matrix110|and you normally never get that in games even
20:48.38NeoTronI linked it above
20:48.53kebinusanyou see a big difference between amd and intel because of that too, amd rates avg load and intel rates peak load for their processors IIRC
20:48.55NeoTron535W, 2x18A @ 12v
20:49.00Matrix110|535W is fine for your system....
20:49.14Matrix110|and the 12v rails are fine aswell
20:49.19NeoTronit should be yes
20:49.34NeoTronit might be a faulty card but it definitely seemed rock solid wen underclocked
20:49.36Matrix110|and Enermax PSUs are decent not good but decent
20:49.53NeoTronand unless something other than the core temp gets hot, heat is not an issue
20:49.55PaeneVulcanus: Yes, the buttons are using the BS translation, but in the message core.lua is where you're making that comparison...you're comparing the value of HasPortMenuTeleport[i] (a boolean) to the name of the spell being cast (a string) to determine the location name...unless I'm blind and can't see the change you made :-/
20:49.57NivFreakso is there an addon that lets you put raid marks on enemy players?
20:50.05NeoTronI measured up to about 61C at most at full speed
20:50.20Matrix110|61°C is fine for the GPU
20:50.29NeoTronand I see a lot of reports of the core temp being 80-90C under normal load
20:50.34VulcanusPaene: Im pretty sure I set the BS translation for HasPortMenu in the button code location
20:50.38Matrix110|my 8800 GTS gets ~80°C under heavy load for hours :P
20:50.45Gagorianmy GPU is 75 degrees under heavy load
20:50.50NeoTronit has a third-party cooler (from the manufacturer)
20:50.56NeoTronone of those fan-like designs
20:51.18Matrix110|if your PSU isnt broken then i would start searching somewhere else
20:51.24NeoTrongiven that heat isn't the issue only thing I can think of is power
20:51.25kebinusanyeah mines running 75c right now
20:51.34Matrix110|Drivers ;)
20:52.15NeoTronI don't get any visible BSOD so not sure what the problem might be. most of the time the screen just goes black and the system typically, but not always, reboots afer a little bit
20:52.40PaeneVulcanus: I think we're referring to two different things here
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20:52.49VulcanusNah I know what you mean
20:53.02VulcanusBut the button code sets the thing Im comparing spellname with
20:53.11VulcanusJust test it if you don't believe me, it works :p
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20:53.27Paenelol, kk, I'll trust ya
20:55.06Vulcanusin all fairness I didnt test with low level mage for obvious reasons
20:55.07Vulcanusbut meh
20:55.08Vulcanusdetails
20:55.09VulcanusXD
20:55.11Paenelol
20:55.29Paenelow level mages are last on the compatibility test, behind other languages imo
20:56.54Vulcanusyeah. And that lv22 one would have bitched if there was a problem
20:57.39Paenealright
20:57.42Paenecommitting
20:57.44Paeneseems to be working
20:58.29NeoTroninstability with GF8800 GT cards doesn't seem to be entirely rare unfortunately
20:58.56Vulcanuslike we discussed earlier rite?
20:59.10Paeneyeah, RandMess is a table now
20:59.14NeoTronsome comments says that this particular card might ahve an issue with the temp on the memory
20:59.22PaeneRandMessage holds the actual message being printed
20:59.30Vulcanusgoodie, get it on curse so that lowbie can stop bitching XD
20:59.32PaeneRandMessage is cleared each time
20:59.34Paenelol
20:59.45VulcanusSpeaking of curse, did you like what I did to the project page? ;D
21:00.22Paeneindeed
21:00.48PaeneI was actually thinking about using wowace's wiki page, then just linking to that on Curse, but it's prob best to have something on Curse
21:01.50VulcanusI was fixing the faq then noticing certain HTML codes worked, then it just added to itself until it became what it is now ;o
21:02.31Paeneit looks nice
21:02.39Paeneeasier to read too
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21:02.45CIA-403paene * r58498 10Cryolysis2/ (15 files in 3 dirs):
21:02.45CIA-4Cryolysis2:
21:02.45CIA-4- Fixed spell messages
21:02.45CIA-4- Fixed a small localization typo
21:02.53Paenethe FAQ thing was Jharvey's idea, it's helped quite a bit
21:04.05Vulcanusaye its a good un, now that it's not in code blocks its even better ;p
21:04.32CIA-403xinhuan 07Talents * r58499 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Implement talents that increase damage and healing by a percentage.
21:05.13FtH|Daemonahmm wohead down QQ
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21:06.12Niveshi anyone knows why ag_unitframes is showing all buffs even when filtering (i want only priest buffs to be shown)
21:06.32Xinhuanits a known bug
21:06.40ZhinjioHey Xinhuan
21:06.43Nivesis there a workaround?
21:06.45Xinhuanwith all unitframes that use the UnitBuff() function call to do filtering
21:06.50Xinhuanthere is no workaround
21:07.11Xinhuanthe only unitframes that currently work with buff filtering are those that do it *manually*
21:07.23Xinhuaninstead of relying on Blizzard's UnitBuff() function
21:07.36PaeneVulcanus: You have no idea how many people asked me about the damn spell timers
21:07.45Vulcanuslmao
21:07.55Vulcanusthey worked (sort of, randomly) in cryo1 tho
21:08.06Paene2.4 should make it a bit easier
21:08.37VulcanusAye
21:08.40PaeneHave you made/worked on any other addons?  You seem to know what you're doing ;)
21:09.31VulcanusI don
21:09.33Vulcanus't
21:09.34Vulcanusactually
21:09.34VulcanusXD
21:09.46VulcanusNo but seriously, I've not done anything major
21:09.50Paenelol
21:10.00Paenethis is my first
21:10.05VulcanusJust a couple fubar plugins to wrap over some other addons like CharactersViewer
21:10.22PaeneI maintained Cryo1 for awhile, but got fed up with it's horrible coding
21:10.29Paenenot that mine ended up being much better
21:10.35VulcanusIt is now
21:11.05Vulcanusto be perfectly honest, if I had seen that CRYO_SPELL_TABLE I would have just cried myself to sleep and never touched cryo2 XD
21:11.17Paenelol
21:11.21Paenethat thing gave me headaches
21:11.37Paeneand the fact that everything was done in OnUpdate
21:11.40VulcanusAnd those portal/teleport for loops, that was annoying
21:12.53PaeneOne of these days I'm gonna switch Cryo2 from XML to the CreateFrame API
21:13.36Paenetoo much functionality to add still though
21:14.21sb_mhhhm
21:14.25sb_fatalattraction sucks :/
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21:20.10CIA-403boydon * r58500 10SmartQueue/Locale-deDE.lua:
21:20.10CIA-4SmartQueue:
21:20.11CIA-4- Fixes to deDE locale (I hope!)
21:20.45PaeneVulcanus: just ran into an interesting bug...when I sheep something, then kill it with fireblast, it says "You are not in a raid group"
21:21.03Vulcanusthats kinda weird XD
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21:21.54Paeneoh wait...I think I know what it might be...
21:22.32toybreakergood afternoon. I am using Baggins and have created custom categories cased on closetGnome sets. My question is how do i get items in the closetgnome set section to not show in the "armor" or "Weapons" section?
21:22.44PaeneVulcanus: it's a different mod doing it, nvm
21:23.27Vulcanusah ok XD
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21:25.46Chompersso im using scrub, can i export the scan anywhere?
21:25.53Chompersor save them for future browsing?
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21:27.33Paeneand posted on Curse
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21:33.37ZhinjioXinhuan: did you and Grum figure out what was up with _Routes? I updated ... I think early this morning, and now I'm not getting lines on my minimap anymore either
21:33.48Xinhuanwe fixed it
21:33.51Xinhuanupdate and try again
21:33.53Grumits fixed :)
21:33.54Zhinjioupdate again? ok.
21:34.10Grumbug with race condition on mapchange ><
21:34.43Zhinjionice find.
21:34.49Zhinjioreloading now.
21:35.12Zhinjiorace conditions are always a bitch to figurew out
21:35.20Xinhuanyep
21:35.40Xinhuanthe bugfix is actually a small speed improvement too
21:35.45ZhinjioI have lines. wonderful
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21:39.59VulcanusPaene: We should do something about the mana gem button conjuring mana ruby outside combat when there's less than 3 charges on the emerald
21:40.01Vulcanusif possible
21:40.38Paeneyou mean destroy the emerald and make a new one if there's less than 3 charges?
21:41.07Paenehm...not sure if that's possible
21:41.43PaeneGetting the number of charges it easy
21:41.48Paenemaking it is too
21:41.57ShenDKor outline the hotbar button for the conjuring spell if the item has less than 3 charges, as a visual reminder
21:42.03Vulcanusaye thats what I mean
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21:42.20Vulcanusdestroying should be poss tho
21:42.31Vulcanusnecrosis does it for new soul shards when bag is full
21:42.37KivinWas just about to say that about soul shards ;p
21:42.59PaeneSteal Necrosis's code? :-p j/k
21:43.04ShenDKheh
21:43.16VulcanusWell ye XD
21:43.21Vulcanusits gpl :p
21:43.26VulcanusAnd then make it better
21:43.33ShenDKit's called 'algorithm imitation' :P
21:43.37toybreakerlol
21:43.37Vulcanusaye XD
21:43.52Paenewell, the conjuring is actually a macro that gets updated based on what gems are already conjured...hence why conjuring can only be done outside combat unless you use the menu
21:44.10Paenebecause you can't change the button's spell attribute in combat :-/
21:45.06VulcanusAye. But we can update the macro's right click functionality on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED
21:45.08Vulcanusamirite
21:45.30Paeneyeah, I think I have it set to do it there
21:45.31Vulcanusbutton*
21:45.32Vulcanusnot macro
21:45.46Ozguli`um. What's the poison which causes a person to become tired called?
21:46.03KivinUhhh?
21:46.06KivinCrippling?
21:46.07ShenDKtired?
21:46.11Paene~api DeleteCursorItem
21:46.11purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_DeleteCursorItem
21:46.15Ozguli`irl
21:46.38ShenDKscorpid i think
21:46.49Ozguli`natural one
21:46.52ShenDKyep
21:46.53Paene~api PickupContainerItem
21:46.53purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_PickupContainerItem
21:46.53Ozguli`like, normally in brain
21:46.56Paenethose two
21:47.01Paenetogether let us destroy the item
21:47.01Vulcanusaye
21:47.08ShenDKscorpion poison makes you go weak
21:47.17Ozguli`yeah but brain doesn't generate it
21:47.21ShenDKlol no
21:47.25Paeneso we just find the item's bag and slot, then destroy it if it has less than 3 charges
21:47.26Kivin...
21:47.27Ozguli`there's some poison which it does
21:47.27Vulcanuson fights like prince I love the new mana gem, but coding wise it sucks
21:47.28ShenDKthe brain doesnt generate poisons
21:47.28VulcanusXD
21:47.30NeoTronmaybe if you have some scorpions living in your brain?
21:47.31Ozguli`yes
21:47.36Ozguli`when you think etc
21:47.40Ozguli`and that makes you feel tired
21:47.58Ozguli`sleeping causes this poison to be removed in the natural way
21:48.18Ozguli`liver filters it from blood etc
21:48.36KivinYou're telling us this, why?
21:48.54Ozguli`I need to know the damn thing's name
21:49.04Ozguli`to make up a cool-sounding excuse
21:49.30KivinYou're the one with all the creepifying information.  Google it?
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21:49.57Ozguli`tried
21:49.59ShenDKAdenosine?
21:50.13Ozguli`no luck, guess I'll just tell I slept and wasn't able to wake up
21:50.25PaeneI've gotta go to work, I have an idea how to do it...you'll have to link the right click to a function, destroy the item inside that function if necessary, then change the right-click back to a macro to create the gems...or something along those lines.  The middle-click to trade functionality uses a function, if you wanna give it a shot that'll show you how to do it in a sense
21:50.49ShenDKit is the reverse of caffeine
21:50.55Ozguli`aa yes
21:51.01Ozguli`just what I was looking for
21:51.24Ozguli`at least it's close enough
21:51.24sb_meh
21:51.31sb_mother bigwigs announce is to slow
21:51.38sb_for fatal attraction
21:51.43ShenDKhttp://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/03.05/AwakeningtoHowW.html
21:51.47VulcanusIm going to bed after this kara, have school tomorrow
21:52.03Paenewhere are you from Vulcanus?
21:52.12VulcanusNorway, GMT+1
21:52.18Vulcanusyou?
21:52.33sb_Funkeh`!! :p
21:52.39Paeneah, Michigan GMT -5
21:52.41Funkeh`its half a second
21:52.43Funkeh`stop bitching
21:52.44ShenDK""When cats are kept from napping by playing with them, levels of the chemical, called adenosine, build up in their brains," notes Robert McCarley"
21:52.57sb_Funkeh`: mhh well no - its port, 2 ticks of damage and then name
21:53.06ShenDKOzguli`: that works for ya?
21:53.08Funkeh`no
21:53.11sb_no?
21:53.12Funkeh`its half a second
21:53.14Ozguli`yea
21:53.33Ozguli`it was on some science magazine
21:53.37Ozguli`but I lost it
21:53.43ShenDKkk
21:53.49ShenDKgoogle ftw heh
21:54.10ShenDKwas the first result to      what makes us sleepy
21:54.19sb_10% wipe *sigh*
21:55.54ShenDKPaene: lol you're the first american i know that knows what his own timezone is in relation to GMT :)
21:56.16Kivin(O.o)
21:56.29Funkeh`sb_, if its longer than that you have a very old version
21:58.01ShenDKPaene: back in everquest it was amazing how many americans couldnt figure out how to translate from, say, pacific to central.. but all the europeans in the guild could
21:58.22kenlyricShenDK: really? people who work with computers tend to know that kind of information.
21:58.35ShenDKkenlyric: guess that was why :)
21:58.38kenlyricwell, right, gamers don't count.
21:58.47kenlyricI meant on IRC
21:58.52ShenDKyeah
21:59.00kenlyricand, I probably mean IRC a decade ago.
21:59.03kenlyricany idiot can get on it now.
21:59.10kenlyricTHANK YOU JAVA CLIENTS!
21:59.21ShenDKit's often the first thing you see after registering somewhere, to adjust site time to your own
21:59.29ShenDKlol
21:59.43kenlyricand screw GMT-5
21:59.47Zhinjioheh, I tunnel irc through my ssh connection
21:59.49kenlyricI'm UTC-5
21:59.52ShenDKhaha
21:59.54kenlyricUTC4LYFE
22:00.08kenlyricin fact, screw time zones
22:00.10kenlyricUTC4LYFE
22:00.49ShenDKSwatch Internet Time > UTC
22:00.50ShenDKj/k
22:01.22durcyneternal september, sigh.
22:01.50ShenDKit is now @959 heh
22:03.09PaeneShenDK: Meh, I've known it forever lol
22:03.32ShenDKPaene: too bad it died out, but seemed like the world wasnt ready for it then
22:03.51PaeneShenDK: indeed
22:03.53ShenDKeven with a guru like nicholas negroponte present when they started it up
22:03.53Paenewell
22:03.55PaeneI'm out to work
22:03.58ShenDKcya
22:04.13Paenelater
22:05.29ShenDKhmm coudl be fun to add @time to clockfu
22:06.22sb_mhhmm
22:06.33sb_Funkeh`: raid warrning seems to be delayed
22:06.44sb_blizz error is ~instant
22:06.51sb_perhaps something with sink?
22:07.34CIA-403xinhuan 07Talents * r58501 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Implement different schools of spell damage in derived stats.
22:07.56Funkeh`sb_, use your local copy?
22:08.35Funkeh`there will be a delay between someone else broadcasting and you seeing it
22:08.47Funkeh`latency ofc
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22:09.38sb_hmno - its my local raidwarning
22:13.23Funkeh`odd
22:13.32Funkeh`could be your latency too
22:13.39Funkeh`reading the combat log/recieving syncs
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22:19.33kergothFin: ping
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22:28.48sb_bah...
22:29.01sb_mother is all about port-luck
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22:31.57nevcairielactually, mother is all about shadow res gear, and to a minor degree port luck :P
22:32.08nevcairielunless you use the multiple camp tactic, then its more luck
22:35.14sb_mhh
22:35.37sb_port to tank -> wipe, port inside some decoration -> wipe ;p
22:35.55Kody-star trek online development ceased :(
22:36.04buuOH NOES.
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22:40.28NeoTronKody-: not surprising
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22:41.45sb_nevcairiel: we cant get to res cap in next weeks :/
22:42.01sb_308 buffed is max
22:42.31NeoTronah so basically P2 lost the star trek license
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22:43.31xyuDoes that mean it could be picked back up?
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22:43.34xyuor is it likey done for
22:43.44xyui remember shadowbane had similar prob
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22:48.51nevcairielsb_: get greens of the AH
22:49.56sb_is it really those missing 60 res that matters? dont know the difference
22:50.31nevcairielwe had everyone get one green item which would boost them to 340 or so
22:50.35nevcairielyou do notice a difference
22:51.16nevcairielwell now i'm at 385, thats cool :)
22:51.30sb_hehe
22:51.33Shadowedcryectttttttt
22:51.41sb_need 100 more hearts for that :/
22:52.15XinhuanPaene
22:52.25Xinhuanyou appear to have a bug report: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10865.msg171655;topicseen#new
22:52.26Xinhuan:D
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23:04.27CIA-403xinhuan * r58502 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua:
23:04.27CIA-4LibRollCall-2.0: Revert last commit to make it intentional to prevent
23:04.27CIA-4GuildControlPopupFrame from receiving the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event, which
23:04.27CIA-4causes the frame to reset all its settings, as this library fires that event
23:04.27CIA-4every 15 seconds
23:13.01Funkeh`You wear greens to mother? :o
23:13.09XinhuanNihilum did
23:13.20Xinhuanin May
23:13.33Funkeh`I wear like 310 ish res res no greens, but used to go full cap before
23:14.01Funkeh`379 wth buff I think
23:14.34Matrix110|320ish orso without gimp items and legs (just neck cloack 3/4 SR set)
23:14.48Matrix110|But Mother is sometimes random³
23:14.54Matrix110|there is one position its so fucked
23:14.59Funkeh`uhu
23:15.03Funkeh`inside the couch
23:15.19Funkeh`woohoo bear form
23:15.34Matrix110|ported into corner cant go north because there is some item cant go south because of wall only can go like 10y west till atleast 2 are dead
23:15.57sb_yes - that couch!!
23:16.00sb_sucks :p
23:16.17sb_ported 6 people inside that thing - in 1 try!
23:16.23Kody-http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6989/consolechartyr2.jpg lol
23:16.31Matrix110|but watching people chasing each other is funny sometimes and then always in vent: I was FIRST on MY SCREEN!
23:16.46Funkeh`where is the pvp dudes in TB
23:17.26Funkeh`hunter rise
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23:18.32sb_Matrix110|: meh - dont have some good strategy for that  yet
23:18.52Matrix110|well you cant make a 100% strategy anyway
23:19.10sb_yup
23:19.14Matrix110|easiest is: SOME PEOPLE GO LEFT SOME RIGHT SOME SOUTH SOME NORTH and normally it works :P
23:19.24Matrix110|without even assigning
23:19.27sb_hm... well you see that beams
23:19.36Xinhuanuhm, go download this mod called MotherArrows
23:19.37sb_problem is if those people think to much
23:19.45sb_+o
23:19.45Xinhuanit automatically assigns ppl that get ported a direction
23:19.50XinhuanWEST, EAST or SOUTH
23:19.52Matrix110|Thats just lame :P
23:19.57Matrix110|its like using Thaddius Arrows
23:20.03Xinhuanso if 2 ppl got ported, WEST and EAST gets assigned
23:20.04sb_Xinhuan: i know - doesnt work with german version :/
23:20.10Xinhuanthen localize it
23:20.11Xinhuan:)
23:20.20Matrix110|there is a reason for it not working with deDE because deDE SUCKS
23:20.21sb_so it failed for 90% of our raid
23:20.24Xinhuanlocalization is in the first 20 lines
23:20.31sb_i know
23:20.32AntiarcXinhuan: How reliable is the mod?
23:20.40AntiarcWe got Mother last night, but had some problems with FA
23:20.43Matrix110|playing on a german realm is a pain in the ass :P
23:20.43Xinhuanits reliable enough - what it does is that
23:20.45sb_but since i have enGB client... *shrug*
23:20.51Xinhuanit checks YOUR raidXX id
23:21.04Xinhuanof all the ported ppl (by checking debuffs)
23:21.13sb_and we have some jackass in our raid who completely refuses to use ANY addon...
23:21.14Xinhuanit assigns the lowest raidXX id LEFT
23:21.20Xinhuanthe second lowest raidXX id, RIGHT
23:21.23Xinhuanand the last guy SOUTH
23:21.36Xinhuanso all you need to do is freaking run in the direction the arrow points
23:21.39Xinhuanleft, right or down
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23:21.52Xinhuanas when you get ported, all 3 of you face the same direction
23:22.09Xinhuan(concept is based on ThaddiusArrows)
23:22.22Xinhuanin fact the author even clearly stated the arrow is ripped from thaddius arrows
23:22.22Xinhuan:D
23:22.27CIA-403peragor * r58503 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
23:22.27CIA-4GridStatusHealer:
23:22.27CIA-4- Added Netherstorm Flag aura check (need localization for koKR / zhTW (please help Sayclub & Chuanhsing)
23:23.27sb_mh wtf is that
23:23.40XinhuanDMB has a similar module btw, as a standalone download
23:23.41sb_L:RegisterTranslations("enUS", function() return { ... german stuff ... }
23:23.44sb_L:RegisterTranslations("deDE", function() return { ... german stuff ... }
23:24.14sb_ah lol
23:24.21sb_he put in 6 possible translations
23:24.31Xinhuanhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7487-MotherArrows.html
23:24.48sb_and checked for 1 or 2 or 3...
23:24.55sb_wtf is that addon :)
23:25.45XinhuanMother arrows is not dependant on any boss mod though, its standalone
23:25.46Killmoreits not very working very well
23:25.51CIA-403phyber * r58504 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
23:25.51CIA-4Fizzle:
23:25.51CIA-4- Fix a bug in :OnDisable()
23:25.54Xinhuanhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10747/
23:26.00Xinhuanthis one is the DMB module for mother shahraz
23:26.14XinhuanDBM*
23:26.43sb_lol... i know why motherarrows doesnt work
23:26.58Xinhuanwhy?
23:27.02sb_wrong translations
23:27.05Xinhuanlol!
23:27.10Xinhuanjust copy the bigwigs ones
23:27.13sb_he tried 6 different translations - all wrong
23:27.14sb_yup
23:27.35NivFreakIs there a mod that will make an arrow that points the direction of my target?
23:27.36NivFreak;)
23:27.44Xinhuanunfortunately no :D
23:27.49NivFreakdamn =/
23:27.51Xinhuannot since patch 1.1 or so
23:28.39NivFreakhow about a mod that lets me put raid targets on enemy players? :)
23:28.39Xinhuanalso not possible
23:28.39NivFreakso sad
23:28.40NivFreakI need to retrain myself to stop using grid in arena =/
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23:53.54kenlyric_why?
23:54.01kenlyric_for tournaments?
23:55.30syerenBecause it's bad for Arena :p
23:55.46syerenParty Frames > Raid Frames in regards to arena :P
23:55.54[dRaCo]100% agreed
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