| 00:00.07 | Silowyi | 2. a macro that turns off auto-run, drinks, and uses shadowmeld |
| 00:00.09 | Xinhuan | then toggling the icon twice will of course make the icon remain showing |
| 00:00.21 | Xinhuan | (dumb yes?) |
| 00:01.04 | Silowyi | a question |
| 00:01.28 | Xinhuan | so aestil, for now you can just edit RoutesFu to remove those 4 toggling lines |
| 00:01.30 | Silowyi | why would you want a fubar addon to not show anything? That is sort of the purpose of fubar. You could just disable it. |
| 00:01.31 | Xinhuan | and it'll fix the issue |
| 00:01.55 | Xinhuan | i am merely explaining the symtomps of the issue |
| 00:01.58 | Silowyi | ah |
| 00:02.00 | Silowyi | k |
| 00:02.12 | Xinhuan | on first-install, a default librock fubar plugin, will display NO ICON and NO TEXT |
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| 00:02.18 | Xinhuan | leading to the illusion that nothing is loaded |
| 00:02.26 | Xinhuan | in fact the button is there, 1 pixel wide |
| 00:02.26 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 00:02.33 | Silowyi | I've never had that issue |
| 00:02.40 | kagaro | evening |
| 00:02.43 | Silowyi | I have however had icons randomly disappear from fubar for no reason |
| 00:02.46 | Xinhuan | that's because it has to be a libfubar-3.0 addon |
| 00:02.47 | Silowyi | and relogging usually fixes it |
| 00:02.52 | Xinhuan | not fubarplugin-2.0 |
| 00:02.56 | Xinhuan | that has the issue |
| 00:02.56 | Silowyi | ah |
| 00:03.09 | Xinhuan | and the only way to get anything to show in the first place is to toggle the setting |
| 00:03.15 | Xinhuan | because the setting is NIL initially |
| 00:03.17 | Silowyi | that's kind of silly |
| 00:03.18 | Xinhuan | rather than true or false |
| 00:03.46 | Xinhuan | it is silly, but i'll rather kill myself than ask ck to fix anything |
| 00:04.34 | Silowyi | fix it yourself and commit it to the repo? *evil* |
| 00:04.56 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 00:05.11 | cncfanatics | what u got against ckk, Xinhuan ? |
| 00:05.17 | Grum | why not? :P |
| 00:05.33 | Xinhuan | nothing at all, but he hasn't attempted or even bothered to fix anything i requested in the last 3 months, so why do i bother? |
| 00:05.41 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 00:06.01 | Xinhuan | ask a friend to go out and drink with you every saturday night, he declines you 3 months in a row, you just stop asking him |
| 00:06.13 | Xinhuan | nothing personal |
| 00:06.59 | Grum | ckk is een sla-ckk-er! |
| 00:07.05 | Grum | erm .. is a >< |
| 00:07.56 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, true :p |
| 00:07.59 | Sais | Xinhuan: ...or you start taking showers more regularly (re the drinking analogy) |
| 00:08.22 | sb_ | hm |
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| 00:08.31 | sb_ | can saberlash (mother) crit? |
| 00:08.40 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 00:08.48 | Grum | depends on your tank :P |
| 00:08.50 | sb_ | (would kill offtanks w/ SR equip) |
| 00:08.58 | Grum | prolly can but they should be crit-immune |
| 00:09.04 | sb_ | offtanks too? mh |
| 00:09.15 | sb_ | i think they need shadow resistance |
| 00:09.18 | Grum | we dont use SR on the offtanks |
| 00:09.40 | Grum | 3 people in the raid without SR |
| 00:09.46 | Pkekyo| | what's the physical difference between a CD and a DVD? |
| 00:10.04 | Grum | 2 letters |
| 00:10.05 | Azurewrath | anyone able to code applications for Symbian S60 3rd? There seems to be no single goddamn subnet/ip calculator out there... only tons of bible readers and other crap.. :/ |
| 00:10.24 | Grum | Azurewrath: make it yourself? :( |
| 00:10.41 | Pkekyo| | Grum: two letters? |
| 00:10.51 | Azurewrath | i can't ;( |
| 00:11.01 | Grum | Pkekyo|: wikipedia it |
| 00:11.04 | Grum | orso: D |
| 00:11.37 | kagaro | die denisty and film used in the procdut for the "bits" are smaller in dvd |
| 00:11.43 | Pkekyo| | well ain't that fucking enligthening |
| 00:11.52 | Pkekyo| | kagaro: that wasn't a reply to you |
| 00:12.28 | Grum | what are you looking for? what did someone ask you? :P |
| 00:14.09 | AKX | Hum. Any lore people 'round? Anyone have a clue on how long draenei live? |
| 00:14.36 | AKX | "Not very long if they are killed" is not a valid answer. |
| 00:14.40 | Sais | Pkekyo|: A DVD can also have two layers; a CD (afaik) can only have one. |
| 00:15.44 | sica | AKX: at least 25.000 years |
| 00:16.07 | Pkekyo| | sica: now how'd you calculate that? |
| 00:16.40 | AKX | Velen. |
| 00:16.53 | sica | yep |
| 00:17.20 | sica | he lead the draenei 25.000 ago from argus to draenor |
| 00:17.50 | kenlyric | oh, but, time travel |
| 00:17.57 | kenlyric | time dilation! |
| 00:20.02 | AKX | Huh. http://www.wowwiki.com/Jessera_of_Mac%27Aree too D: |
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| 00:21.31 | sica | that's quite a long time :) |
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| 00:23.04 | silentium | CDs have their data layer right below the (top/printed) surface, DVDs have their data layer in the middle so they can be symetric and double-sided |
| 00:23.20 | mjc | silentium: dvds have two data layers |
| 00:23.33 | silentium | altho I've only ever seen one double-sided DVD |
| 00:23.49 | silentium | well, they can have 2 sides AND 2 layers on each side |
| 00:24.07 | mjc | well yes but the top layer of a DVD is under the printed surface |
| 00:24.13 | kenlyric | silentium: I have one of those. |
| 00:24.20 | kenlyric | The Stand Miniseries on one DVD |
| 00:24.22 | silentium | wich offers you the possiblity of around 18 GiB on one disc |
| 00:24.30 | mjc | you have to flip it over though |
| 00:24.33 | mjc | lame :P |
| 00:24.43 | silentium | yep, and it cant be printed with shiney colours |
| 00:24.45 | kenlyric | and a bunch that have 4:3 on one side, 16:9 on the other. |
| 00:24.54 | silentium | so double-sided DVDs never had much success |
| 00:24.57 | mjc | I have a few that are 4:3/16:9 also |
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| 00:25.58 | kenlyric | no. users can never figure out which side is which. |
| 00:26.13 | kenlyric | it prints "widescreen" on the rim and I put that side down and get 4:3. |
| 00:26.22 | silentium | I also once had a hybrid CD/DVD disc, one side audio CD and the other one video DVD, it was a bit more thick than usual discs but it worked |
| 00:26.30 | kenlyric | because it expects me to think less, or something. |
| 00:27.22 | mjc2 | can't remember my nickserv password meh. |
| 00:27.44 | kenlyric | 12345 |
| 00:27.52 | mjc2 | I wish |
| 00:28.06 | [Liquidor] | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8813/c97123854516152so9.jpg |
| 00:28.19 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58378 10FuBar_RoutesFu/RoutesFu.lua: FuBar_RoutesFu: Fix Fubar icon always toggling back to ON when relogging/reloadui |
| 00:29.44 | mjc2 | bah I hate running wow on both platforms |
| 00:29.52 | mjc2 | they don't give me the win binaries when I update on the mac and vice versa |
| 00:29.57 | mjc2 | and I can't just go get them |
| 00:31.16 | Xinhuan | aestil: hopefully fixed? |
| 00:31.22 | silentium | mjc2: maybe some freenode staff member can help you if you have added an e-mail address to your nickserv account |
| 00:32.18 | mjc2 | I don't think I did, otherwise I would have a long time ago |
| 00:32.37 | sica | mjc2: how long didn't you use your nickserv account? |
| 00:33.00 | silentium | well, if it has been unused for over 60 days then you can request them to drop it so you can re-register |
| 00:33.33 | mjc2 | yeah, I haven't identified successfully on it in at least a year |
| 00:34.04 | silentium | /stats p <- one staffer online atm |
| 00:34.05 | Pkekyo| | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1165/1404393021_7b4cdc4538_b.jpg ^^ |
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| 00:36.14 | silentium | mjc2: and then have a look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup |
| 00:39.04 | genetik- | Antiarc: any known bugs with Threat right now? |
| 00:39.15 | Antiarc | Several - describe your problem? |
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| 00:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB Improved Taxi Interface |
| 00:39.55 | genetik- | we were having some issues last night with me (MT) jumping up to like 30000 tps at times |
| 00:40.21 | genetik- | happened to fraps our vashj kill last night and i'm watching it trying to figure out what might be triggering it |
| 00:40.23 | mjc2 | silentium: thanks |
| 00:41.05 | genetik- | it sustains at 30000 tps for a good bit of time, also |
| 00:41.10 | genetik- | not like a spike |
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| 00:44.08 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, what improvement are you thinking of? |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-4 | 03gagorian * r58379 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc: |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-4 | - TOC bump |
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| 00:54.35 | CIA-4 | 03ulic * r58380 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Added wave sync on boss death in BM, relies on death_trigger which is missing in some languages. |
| 01:01.43 | Antiarc | Man, if you do a lot of reverse proxying with your web server, nginx is pretty hot. |
| 01:03.11 | kenlyric | I vote for that as the nerdiest thing ever said in this channel. |
| 01:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:44] <bigzero> sag_ich_nicht, what improvement are you thinking of? <--re-written so it doesn't randomly not render :( |
| 01:03.49 | Antiarc | Talking about web server software is nerdy? o.0 |
| 01:04.11 | kenlyric | Antiarc: very very nerdy. |
| 01:04.24 | Antiarc | Not really! :P |
| 01:05.05 | xyu | Anyone know the best pre-25man hunter mainhand (melee) wep? ^^ |
| 01:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 01:05.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ZA gate opening is bugging |
| 01:05.28 | sag_ich_nicht | we wanted to try how much of the trash we can kill with 5 people out of bordedom |
| 01:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *boredom |
| 01:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | butt |
| 01:05.32 | sag_ich_nicht | *but |
| 01:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't open -.- |
| 01:06.10 | Arrowmaster | theres a min number you need to open it |
| 01:06.14 | Arrowmaster | although i thought it was 5 |
| 01:06.43 | kagaro | 10 |
| 01:07.05 | kagaro | it never opens for us unless all 10 click the stupid gong |
| 01:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | 01/13/08 02:06:22> Harrison Jones yells: Suit yourself. At least five of you must assist me if we're to get inside. Follow me.... |
| 01:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | says 5. |
| 01:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | better be fucking 5. |
| 01:07.30 | kagaro | yeah and summons should work ther etoo P |
| 01:08.02 | kagaro | we had eagle boss bug on us last week, he got to 15% and stopped taking any damage and wiped us |
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| 01:17.00 | Xinhuan | is Fade a shadow spell? |
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| 01:17.29 | Deviad | Hello |
| 01:17.41 | EvilJohn | yeah Fade is shadow |
| 01:17.52 | EvilJohn | and imrpoved fade is a shadow talent |
| 01:17.54 | Deviad | Can anyone pls tell me when Cryolysis 2 will be updated to match the new patch changes? |
| 01:18.06 | bigzero | wtb a mallet to smash my piece of $hit router into tiny bits |
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| 01:18.21 | Deviad | Now mana emerald has 3 charges and the cooldown function doesn't work properly |
| 01:18.51 | Xinhuan | when the author finds time to fix it |
| 01:18.57 | Deviad | I reported the issue but I didn't get any answer :\ |
| 01:19.09 | Xinhuan | i don't think he plays a mage |
| 01:19.19 | Xinhuan | his original addon is for locks |
| 01:19.19 | Vulcanus | Deviad, I'll be looking into it tomorrow. |
| 01:19.41 | EvilJohn | surprised that addon is still around |
| 01:19.41 | CIA-4 | 03simlan * r58381 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.lua: ActionCombat: User defined buffs can enabled/disabled |
| 01:19.56 | Deviad | Vulcanus, thank you very much XD |
| 01:19.59 | Vulcanus | EvilJohn, me and Paene maintain it now |
| 01:20.17 | Deviad | it works pretty well... just the patch screwed things up |
| 01:20.26 | Vulcanus | Works fine for me |
| 01:20.40 | Vulcanus | As I was fixing the portal/poly messages earlier today so I would know :p |
| 01:21.02 | Deviad | Vulcanus, if you click on the gem button |
| 01:21.02 | EvilJohn | cool |
| 01:21.07 | Deviad | you won't see any cooldown |
| 01:21.09 | Vulcanus | Cryo2 is still in beta tho, so shit will be broken |
| 01:21.24 | Vulcanus | Yeah I know about that, I thought you meant more than that |
| 01:21.32 | Deviad | that is the second time you use it |
| 01:21.40 | Vulcanus | it was giving me grief at prince yesterday |
| 01:21.46 | Deviad | the first time works, the third disappears and the icon turns grey as it should |
| 01:22.15 | Vulcanus | Yes thank you I do play a mage so I do know exactly and in great detail what is wrong :p |
| 01:23.03 | Deviad | OK, np. :) |
| 01:23.57 | Vulcanus | Tomorrow I'm going to fix the random messages to actually take the settings into consideration and not spam up /ra or /p if settings indicate it shouldn't, then maybe look at the mana gems. Depending on whether or not I will be starting work on a guild site. |
| 01:24.11 | Vulcanus | At least it's easier to work with now that it's not in one giant file |
| 01:24.13 | bigzero | In general which company's routers are more reliable, Linksys, Buffalo, or Asus? anyone have any experience with them? |
| 01:24.28 | Arrowmaster | asus makes routers? |
| 01:24.38 | Vulcanus | I have a linksys atm and I had to flash it to DD-WRT to stop it from disconnecting as soon as I put on utorrent |
| 01:24.51 | EvilJohn | yeah, if you want to run DD-WRT, I'd buy a linksys |
| 01:24.54 | EvilJohn | I'd pass on Buffalo |
| 01:24.59 | bigzero | f dd-wrt |
| 01:24.59 | Ellipsis | linksys + dd-wrt = win |
| 01:24.59 | EvilJohn | spotty support |
| 01:25.04 | CIA-4 | 03pb_ee1 * r58382 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: This should fix the buf of the revision number not being updated. |
| 01:25.05 | bigzero | they can go die in hell |
| 01:25.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah dd-wrt sucks |
| 01:25.15 | EvilJohn | okay |
| 01:25.15 | EvilJohn | well |
| 01:25.16 | bigzero | tomato is what i'm going for |
| 01:25.22 | Arrowmaster | tomato ftw |
| 01:25.24 | Ellipsis | I'd still go with linksys |
| 01:25.26 | pb_ee1 | buf --> bug |
| 01:25.26 | EvilJohn | some people like ddwrt, some don't |
| 01:25.43 | genetik- | i've never really had much of a problem with dd-wrt.. then again, i don't fuck with it after i get it working |
| 01:25.59 | Vulcanus | I don't give a shyte what firmware I run tbh, all I know is that everything works exactly the way it should, I haven't entered the config interface in 2 years |
| 01:26.00 | Arrowmaster | and the torrent problems are common on many routers default firmware |
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| 01:26.06 | bigzero | dd-wrt makes me want to cry right now...though it's probably linksys fault int the first place for only giving me 2mb of flash |
| 01:26.10 | art3mis | didnt aguf used to hide the blizz buff frame? |
| 01:26.29 | bigzero | Ellipsis, why do you prefer linksys? any real reason? |
| 01:27.01 | NightHawkTheSane | linksys pays Ellipsis in sex to say that. |
| 01:27.10 | bigzero | hehe |
| 01:27.36 | Vulcanus | hell I'd preach D-Link if I got paid in sex :( |
| 01:27.41 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, http://tinyurl.com/38jcbe |
| 01:27.45 | Ellipsis | NHTS speaks the truth |
| 01:27.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I always do. |
| 01:28.02 | Ellipsis | I have always had good experiences with linksys |
| 01:28.23 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: i wouldnt trust it as far as i could throw it |
| 01:28.27 | Ellipsis | they have the least fail firmware, and seem to have better compatibility with third party firmware as well |
| 01:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | good "experiences" *wink wink, nudge nudge, know-what-i-mean, know-what-i-meam* |
| 01:28.34 | genetik- | linksys is just low-end cisco hardware |
| 01:28.40 | Arrowmaster | lol linksys firmware is mega fail |
| 01:28.48 | bigzero | well, i'll just assume that it's dd-wrt micro that's causing all my problems.. i'll give linksys another shot |
| 01:29.04 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: what sorta problems? |
| 01:29.39 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: I'm not saying it's awesome, just not as craptastic as, say, netgear or something |
| 01:29.52 | Pkekyo| | I like D-link tbh....never had any of their products get screwed up |
| 01:30.04 | bigzero | the router starts to fail every 24 hours (approx.)... that takes like 20 minutes until it becomes completely unresponsive. then it takes me like 30 minutes of resetting it to actually get it to reset |
| 01:30.15 | Vulcanus | my d-link router randomly died conveniently 2 months after the warranty was up |
| 01:30.15 | Ellipsis | d-link hates me |
| 01:30.35 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: wow thats weird |
| 01:30.48 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, i used to have d-link and it worked fine with an occasional reboot of the router... then it fried after like 3 years |
| 01:31.06 | Vulcanus | I needed a wireless router anyways so in all fairness it was convenient for me too, I had an excuse to buy a new, wireless router XD |
| 01:31.06 | Pkekyo| | I've been running D-Links since '98 or something |
| 01:31.28 | bigzero | right now i'm looking for a Linksys WRT54GS v3 |
| 01:31.34 | bigzero | if i can find one |
| 01:31.35 | Antiarc | I'm using a Linksys wrt54g with dd-wrt and it does fine. |
| 01:31.52 | Pkekyo| | only bad thing I've got to say about it is that the wifi ones tend to get slightly confused after power failures :p |
| 01:32.22 | Vulcanus | then again power failures dont (or shouldn't) happen all that often |
| 01:32.28 | genetik- | my wrt54gl works nicely with dd-wrt |
| 01:32.54 | Pkekyo| | Vulcanus: true...experienced it three times or so between two routers |
| 01:34.17 | Vulcanus | benefits of living in norway, we haven't had power failures for years. no tornadoes or hurricanes or extensive thunderstorms or earthquakes or any of that shit XD |
| 01:34.24 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 01:34.27 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo| lives in norway too :P |
| 01:34.36 | Vulcanus | hm XD |
| 01:34.57 | Pkekyo| | well, I've been plagued with retarded neighbours digging ditches cutting my fucking power/internet cables |
| 01:35.19 | Ellipsis | yeah yeah, blame the neighbors |
| 01:35.28 | Ellipsis | what Pkekyo| really means is "I pulled the wrong cable, oops" |
| 01:35.32 | Vulcanus | "hm whats that big cabel thar... *fetches scissors*" |
| 01:36.57 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: nah, some new twat that moved in in the neighbour house decided to do some digging 'round his house |
| 01:36.58 | Pkekyo| | ended up with cutting the internet supply for all households down the street... the bastards himself had his intact though, so I hooked into his wifi instead :) |
| 01:37.06 | Pkekyo| | leeched torrents for a couple of days |
| 01:37.40 | Vulcanus | you should have uploaded horse porn through the lan XD |
| 01:37.53 | Pkekyo| | wish the IFPI had busted the bastard :p |
| 01:38.04 | Vulcanus | wut? |
| 01:38.28 | Pkekyo| | IFPI, if memory serves, is the european henchmen of the RIAA/MPAA |
| 01:38.42 | Vulcanus | oic |
| 01:39.04 | Pkekyo| | connected with that piece of shit lawyer Espen Tøndel |
| 01:39.20 | Vulcanus | never gotten any C'n'D letters and I download tons of po... eh I mean stuff all the time ;o |
| 01:40.09 | Vulcanus | I think I read about that guy on FST, but I doubt he's worse than Staff |
| 01:40.15 | Pkekyo| | the IFPI doesn't get pissed off about you pirating porn, the porn industry prolly got their own version of IFPI to have you serialraped about that |
| 01:40.30 | Vulcanus | Dunno if you read Staff's statements about Lommemannen :p |
| 01:40.49 | Pkekyo| | nah, don't care about that case really |
| 01:40.55 | Pkekyo| | I find Maskemannen more interesting xD |
| 01:41.21 | Vulcanus | XD well Staff said that "its not that bad, rly. Kids don't suffer any traumas or anything, rly" |
| 01:41.35 | Xinhuan | [1/13 09:27:03] <CIA-4> pb_ee1 * r58382 LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: This should fix the buf of the revision number not being updated. |
| 01:41.37 | Xinhuan | for some reason |
| 01:41.43 | Xinhuan | i always read the addon name as |
| 01:41.46 | Xinhuan | L2Profile |
| 01:41.51 | Xinhuan | anyone got the same issue as me? |
| 01:41.55 | pb_ee1 | lol :p |
| 01:41.56 | Stan_ | < |
| 01:41.57 | Pkekyo| | well he's a complete fucking retard and fully validates why we should reinstate the death sentance |
| 01:41.58 | Vulcanus | lern2profile nub |
| 01:41.59 | Pkekyo| | sentence* |
| 01:42.30 | Vulcanus | So if you were 7 years old and being tricked into sucking on some 55yo's pen0r you wouldn't suffer trauma about it |
| 01:42.31 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 01:42.48 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 01:43.02 | Ellipsis | man, I switch to another window for 5 minutes and this is what you guys are on about? |
| 01:43.10 | pb_ee1 | Xinhuan: this comes with the LZRoster available at http://www.lzroster.com/ (new release coming soon) |
| 01:43.24 | Xinhuan | hahaha (what does lzroster do?) |
| 01:43.27 | Vulcanus | yeah we are discussing our retirement plans |
| 01:43.53 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: go read norwegian newspapers |
| 01:44.02 | Ellipsis | too lazy |
| 01:44.07 | Pkekyo| | there's like 50 cases about it on the front pages of every newspaper 'round here |
| 01:44.15 | Ellipsis | it's more work to read norwegian than english =[ |
| 01:44.21 | Vulcanus | Ellipsis: it's a Norwegian news story, a 55 year old serial pedo was caught today. He had cut the stuffing out of his pockets and was telling kids that if you reach into the pocket you get candy (thereby them grabbing the penor instead). And he had told them to like "pretend its a lollypop" |
| 01:44.36 | Ellipsis | hot |
| 01:44.40 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 01:44.56 | Vulcanus | I gave you some good ideas for future endeavours did I not |
| 01:45.08 | Ellipsis | unfortunately I'm not a man |
| 01:45.11 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: don't answer that |
| 01:45.11 | Ellipsis | so that doesn't work as well for me |
| 01:45.19 | Pkekyo| | gah, too late |
| 01:45.21 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:45.24 | Xinhuan | i just learnt a "firefox trick". You can drag a tab onto the main area itself to cause it to reload the page -- without it having to redownload all the graphics pressing F5 does |
| 01:45.28 | Vulcanus | amagad, gurls on the intarweb |
| 01:45.32 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 01:45.33 | Vulcanus | Anyways, |
| 01:45.34 | Ellipsis | they don't exist |
| 01:45.51 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I love you |
| 01:45.54 | Vulcanus | Maybe you wanna be the one taping it happening then |
| 01:46.06 | Ellipsis | sure ^-^ |
| 01:46.15 | Pkekyo| | "GIRL" on the internet = "Guy In Real Life" |
| 01:46.20 | Ellipsis | ~irc |
| 01:46.21 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 01:46.41 | Vulcanus | Xinhuan: F5 doesn't reload the graphics unless you set your cache size to 500 kb. Crtl+F5 however does. |
| 01:47.05 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 01:47.09 | Xinhuan | you sure? |
| 01:47.14 | Ellipsis | some of us like our cache sizes small |
| 01:47.24 | Ellipsis | and it also depends on the image and webserver config |
| 01:47.30 | Pkekyo| | I like huge caches all over my house |
| 01:47.50 | kagaro | Xinhaun: setup squid at home and forget about reload times |
| 01:48.01 | Estil | lol. |
| 01:48.01 | Vulcanus | Pretty sure, my cache size is set to 70mb and if the website had no-cache headers then Im pretty sure the tabdrag would obey that too |
| 01:48.26 | Estil | girls on the internet? |
| 01:48.27 | Estil | such lise. |
| 01:48.28 | Estil | lise* |
| 01:48.30 | Estil | lies* |
| 01:48.32 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 01:48.39 | Pkekyo| | ~fail Estil and grammar |
| 01:48.40 | purl | Estil and grammar: Fail. |
| 01:48.46 | Ellipsis | also: late :P |
| 01:48.47 | kagaro | squid + rules == no crap ads spoiling your browsing |
| 01:49.02 | Pkekyo| | s/grammar/spelling/ |
| 01:49.36 | Vulcanus | oh yeah now i remember, there was once talk about soembody having nekkid pictars Ellipsis. Unfortunately he couldn't be bribed so easily |
| 01:49.46 | Vulcanus | nekkid pictars of* |
| 01:50.13 | Pkekyo| | name of said individual? |
| 01:50.15 | Vulcanus | with a side note that Im ashamed of myself for forgetting that |
| 01:50.21 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what a pictar is, but it sounds hot. |
| 01:50.22 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:50.25 | Pkekyo| | I'm sure I could bribe him with a pair of shoes |
| 01:50.32 | Vulcanus | forgot, I can send you the #wowace log though and you could have a looksee yourself :p |
| 01:50.36 | Ellipsis | fortunately nobody on this network has them |
| 01:50.38 | Vulcanus | its probs only a meg or two |
| 01:50.38 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 01:50.49 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: redirect me to said network please? |
| 01:50.50 | Ellipsis | actually...I should say...nobody who's currently active on this network |
| 01:50.51 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 01:51.04 | Vulcanus | this is suddenly very relevant to my internets |
| 01:51.04 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 01:51.10 | Pkekyo| | hmm...haven't seen thul for a while |
| 01:51.14 | Pkekyo| | ~seen thul |
| 01:51.17 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1027 messages. Is idling for 4d 22h 44m 50s, last said: 'wish me luck :-D'. |
| 01:51.17 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 01:51.34 | nevcairiel | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 01:51.35 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (12d 12h 56m 53s) #wowace (12d 12h 56m 53s). Has said a total of 581 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen nevcairiel'. |
| 01:51.37 | Pkekyo| | wish him luck on the ransom for the pictar? |
| 01:51.44 | nevcairiel | i dont talk enough :( |
| 01:51.59 | Ellipsis | ~seen Ellipsis |
| 01:52.00 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace (7d 8h 44m 1s). Has said a total of 992 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Ellipsis'. |
| 01:52.05 | Vulcanus | ~seen Vulcanus |
| 01:52.06 | purl | vulcanus is currently on #wowace (14h 18m 22s). Has said a total of 85 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Vulcanus'. |
| 01:52.13 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Santa Clause |
| 01:52.14 | purl | i haven't seen 'santa clause', Pkekyo| |
| 01:52.14 | Vulcanus | SPAM MOAR |
| 01:52.27 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 01:52.29 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I need to l2spell the name of imaginate characters |
| 01:52.43 | Vulcanus | ~seen Ellipsis' naked pics |
| 01:52.44 | purl | Vulcanus: i haven't seen 'ellipsis' naked pics' |
| 01:52.45 | nevcairiel | but purl is wrong, i've been online with this connection for 4wks and 2 days now .. well i guess purl disconnected in that time :P |
| 01:52.45 | Vulcanus | ;p |
| 01:52.47 | nevcairiel | ~uptime |
| 01:53.08 | Vulcanus | so I guess bribing purl wont help :( |
| 01:53.53 | Vulcanus | ah well Ill look on JJ.am tomorrow, I'm sure they are there somewhere, one of the 'chans I reckon |
| 01:53.54 | Vulcanus | ;D |
| 01:53.58 | Ellipsis | hahaha |
| 01:54.21 | Vulcanus | WoWAceChan |
| 01:54.47 | Estil | and |
| 01:54.52 | Estil | English is not my first language :( |
| 01:54.55 | Estil | don't blame me for bad grammar |
| 01:55.02 | Vulcanus | Well that was random |
| 01:55.04 | nevcairiel | who else is there to blame? |
| 01:55.09 | Ellipsis | it isn't for most of the people active right now :P |
| 01:55.24 | Pkekyo| | Estil: nor is it for anyone else in here...except the bloody yanks :p |
| 01:55.29 | Wogroipl_ | nevcairiel, blame me, I don't care |
| 01:55.30 | Estil | You should blame Canada, nev |
| 01:55.35 | Vulcanus | i stil are gud english |
| 01:55.52 | Diao | what's a first language? |
| 01:56.11 | Vulcanus | same as a first lady |
| 01:56.14 | Vulcanus | only without bosoms |
| 01:56.26 | Estil | interestingly enough |
| 01:56.34 | Estil | I can differentiate between 'There' and 'Their' |
| 01:56.41 | Estil | bunch of native USA people cannot |
| 01:56.42 | Estil | D: |
| 01:56.42 | Ellipsis | well you're ahead of most americans then |
| 01:56.48 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 01:56.52 | Wogroipl_ | or, then and than |
| 01:56.58 | Pkekyo| | Diao: 'first language' = 'mother tongue' (no, not frenching your mum, you nastyass bastard) |
| 01:57.01 | Ellipsis | affect and effect :P |
| 01:57.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, but what about they're? ;) |
| 01:57.03 | Estil | or, "effect" or "affect |
| 01:57.11 | Ellipsis | two, to, and too! |
| 01:57.21 | NightHawkTheSane | here, hear. |
| 01:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | (god i hate english) |
| 01:57.31 | Gnarfoz | it actually is easier for people who really /learned/ a language to make less mistakes, I guess |
| 01:57.50 | Keias | It makes them pay more attention to their grammar |
| 01:57.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: yeah, thats typically why people who learn english as a second language or so often have better grammar. |
| 01:58.07 | Vulcanus | Grammar Nazi at 3 am = fail. Shoot her, I'm off. ;p |
| 01:58.14 | Ellipsis | that doesn't work as well for languages with lots of special cases though |
| 01:58.18 | Gnarfoz | \o |
| 01:58.29 | Gnarfoz | Heil Grammar :p |
| 01:58.31 | Estil | lol |
| 01:58.47 | Xinhuan | what's that superinspect replacement addon called hmm |
| 01:58.49 | Xinhuan | anyone remember? |
| 01:58.51 | Estil | but seriously who cares about grammar as long as you understand! |
| 01:58.57 | Keias | Xinhuan, Examiner |
| 01:58.58 | Keias | ? |
| 01:59.00 | Xinhuan | ah yes |
| 01:59.10 | kenlyric | "read" and "read" |
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| 01:59.42 | Gnarfoz | Estil: correct grammar makes it a hell of a lot easier to understand |
| 01:59.47 | kenlyric | worst past tense ever. |
| 01:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Estil: procedure is important. |
| 02:00.05 | Pkekyo| | Estilbut seriously who cares about grammar as long as you understand! <---- hi...that would be me! |
| 02:00.26 | Estil | :D |
| 02:00.35 | Estil | sometimes I get lazy and omit words here and there |
| 02:00.42 | Pkekyo| | when talking to people, I prefer it's not like an episode of zeropunctuation |
| 02:00.44 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: I like even more ambiguous ones like "wind" and "wind" |
| 02:00.48 | kenlyric | omit needless |
| 02:01.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: ooh, nice. |
| 02:01.07 | kenlyric | Brevity is... wit. |
| 02:01.36 | NightHawkTheSane | "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." ? :P |
| 02:02.04 | Lukian | VisualThemes and Cartographer_Notes are still causing taint |
| 02:02.22 | Arrowmaster | taint in what? |
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| 02:02.34 | Ellipsis | "lead" "lead" and "led" are fun too |
| 02:02.53 | Stan_ | Lukian: go go fix it |
| 02:02.56 | kenlyric | english was designed from the ground up to keep out the weak. |
| 02:03.01 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: what about it is fun? |
| 02:03.08 | Ellipsis | well |
| 02:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | laughing at people who screw up |
| 02:03.16 | kebinusan | It feels weird to run utorrent on linux... but also sad that I couldnt find a gui torent client that wasnt either a memory or cpu hog |
| 02:03.21 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 02:03.24 | Pkekyo| | that, I can understand |
| 02:03.24 | Ellipsis | a lot of people will spell the past tence of "lead" as "lead" instead of "led" |
| 02:03.36 | Ellipsis | because the word "lead" is pronounced the same as "led" but has a different meaning |
| 02:03.37 | Estil | lmao @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773251625&sid=1 |
| 02:03.37 | Gnarfoz | s/tence/tense/ |
| 02:03.42 | Ellipsis | ty Gnarfoz |
| 02:03.49 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 02:03.50 | Gnarfoz | "English doesn't borrow from other languages; English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and sifts through their pockets for loose grammar." |
| 02:03.59 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: fun can also mean "interesting" |
| 02:04.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: hah, so true. |
| 02:04.22 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 02:05.20 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: according to what dictionary? |
| 02:05.57 | Estil | There is no funner or funnest. |
| 02:06.00 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: "how words are used on IRC" dictionary. |
| 02:06.12 | Pkekyo| | ~fail kenlyric |
| 02:06.13 | purl | kenlyric: Fail. |
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| 02:06.59 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: it can also mean the opposite of fun, through the miracle of sarcasm. |
| 02:07.23 | Pkekyo| | and the opposite of 'fun' is 'interesting'? |
| 02:07.50 | kenlyric | no. |
| 02:08.04 | Pkekyo| | then my ~fail still stands |
| 02:08.12 | kenlyric | nope. |
| 02:08.27 | kenlyric | I don't make the definitions, I just relay them. |
| 02:08.35 | NightHawkTheSane | he lies |
| 02:08.41 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric is the mind behind the OED |
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| 02:09.10 | Estil | what |
| 02:09.14 | Estil | it's messed up still |
| 02:09.18 | Estil | o well |
| 02:09.30 | bigzero | there used to be (maybe still exists) a mod that would automatically drop items from your inventory and loot if your bags are full. Anyone know what it was called? |
| 02:10.36 | Pkekyo| | ~fail kenlyric |
| 02:10.37 | purl | kenlyric: Fail. |
| 02:10.40 | Pkekyo| | just so you don't forget |
| 02:10.57 | kenlyric | ~fail viking |
| 02:10.58 | purl | viking: Fail. |
| 02:11.42 | kenlyric | I don't know why people complain about Americans not learning a second language. English is at least three of them. |
| 02:11.57 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 02:12.12 | Pkekyo| | who's complaining anyways? |
| 02:12.28 | CIA-4 | 03parnic 07Parnic * r58383 10IceHUD/IceHud/modules/ThreatToTarget.lua: |
| 02:12.28 | CIA-4 | IceHUD: |
| 02:12.29 | CIA-4 | - removed ThreatToTarget because it was basically crap |
| 02:12.51 | Keias | I wanna learn Russian |
| 02:13.06 | Pkekyo| | buy a book then :) |
| 02:13.11 | Estil | I wanna learn German :D |
| 02:13.12 | Estil | and Japanese |
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| 02:14.10 | Pkekyo| | Estil: buy a book...well, buy two in your case |
| 02:14.23 | Stan_ | Estil: german isn't easy |
| 02:14.40 | Keias | It'll take more than a book for me :( |
| 02:14.56 | Keias | A book doesn't help much with pronunciation. |
| 02:14.58 | Pkekyo| | german sucks |
| 02:15.01 | bigzero | learning the vocab is a pain...learning the grammar is easy |
| 02:15.10 | bigzero | for most languages |
| 02:15.15 | Pkekyo| | I had three years of french class |
| 02:15.15 | Pkekyo| | and learned more german than french during those years |
| 02:15.30 | Stan_ | Pkekyo|: reason why german sucks? |
| 02:15.37 | Pkekyo| | it's german |
| 02:15.41 | Keias | lol |
| 02:15.45 | Stan_ | wow |
| 02:15.48 | Stan_ | awesome reason |
| 02:15.54 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 02:16.07 | Keias | Better use your serious face, Pkekyo| |
| 02:16.28 | Pkekyo| | err...how does that look again? |
| 02:16.35 | kenlyric | Nothing can end well that begins with "we should do what the germans did" |
| 02:16.53 | Pkekyo| | bwahahha |
| 02:17.04 | bigzero | germans make good cars |
| 02:17.18 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: elaborate, please? |
| 02:17.46 | bigzero | umm...take a list of german cars and put "pretty good" by each |
| 02:18.01 | Pkekyo| | I prefer american cars |
| 02:18.09 | Pkekyo| | I like to know that I could drive straight through a german car |
| 02:18.11 | bigzero | i'm sorry |
| 02:18.29 | buu | Anyone recall the macro conditional that checks if you're outside or if it's possible to mount? |
| 02:18.33 | Estil | :( |
| 02:18.40 | Stan_ | lol Pkekyo| |
| 02:18.41 | Estil | well, I will begin with Japanese :( |
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| 02:18.47 | Pkekyo| | Stan_: what? :< |
| 02:18.51 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: american cars haven't been madethat way since the 1970s |
| 02:19.11 | Stan_ | I would like to see you driving through a big fat BMW |
| 02:19.18 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: they're still heavy enough by my calculations |
| 02:19.26 | buu | So are the americans |
| 02:19.30 | buu | That doesn't increase your chances. |
| 02:19.37 | Pkekyo| | lmao buu |
| 02:19.43 | Gngsk | buu, there's no conditional for that only if you can fly or not |
| 02:19.56 | Ellipsis | buu: [outside] and [flyable] |
| 02:20.06 | Gngsk | wait, there is outside? |
| 02:21.45 | pb_ee1 | Xinhuan, sorry for answering late. LZRoster is basically... a guild roster ;) |
| 02:21.56 | kenlyric | Gngsk: only in WoW |
| 02:22.07 | pb_ee1 | It gives information that the armory does not ;p |
| 02:22.16 | Gngsk | kenlyric, craaazy |
| 02:22.17 | pb_ee1 | Tradeskills and dungeons access |
| 02:22.29 | Xinhuan | so everyone must install it for it to share info? |
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| 02:22.59 | kenlyric | like every other website guild roster tool since the invention of WoW? |
| 02:23.11 | pb_ee1 | buh? no, the webmaster of your guild installs the roster, then every guildmate that wish to use it installs LZProfiler and they send their file to update the roster |
| 02:23.33 | Diao | which is exactly what Xinhuan is saying :P |
| 02:23.47 | skippyfx|wabbit | whats that mod that replaces the blizzard playerframes (the above the head ones) with usefull ones? i just got back into wow and i cant for the life of me remember the name of it |
| 02:23.55 | Diao | aloft |
| 02:23.56 | pb_ee1 | kind of yeah ;p |
| 02:24.14 | skippyfx|wabbit | YES |
| 02:24.16 | skippyfx|wabbit | aloft |
| 02:24.18 | skippyfx|wabbit | thank you :D |
| 02:24.40 | pb_ee1 | It's open source but there is no offers on hosting your roster, you must install it for your guild on your server ;p |
| 02:24.51 | pb_ee1 | s/is /are / |
| 02:25.23 | skippyfx|wabbit | also, i rerolled a healer and i never used xperl before but everyone swears by it, is it possible to just use the raid part of xperl along with aguf? |
| 02:25.26 | Stan_ | http://www.stage6.com/user/anise/video/1803349/How-to-solo-Illidan-on-live-server |
| 02:25.51 | kenlyric | grid. grid and eggs. eggs, grid, and eggs. grid, grid, grid, and eggs |
| 02:27.33 | skippyfx|wabbit | hm |
| 02:27.36 | skippyfx|wabbit | i had grid on my mage |
| 02:28.10 | pb_ee1 | Pitbull ftw! (this is a troll) |
| 02:28.19 | skippyfx|wabbit | i had pitbull |
| 02:28.20 | skippyfx|wabbit | idk |
| 02:28.26 | skippyfx|wabbit | i just though aguf was better |
| 02:28.38 | skippyfx|wabbit | it did give me an fps boost for a little bit |
| 02:28.41 | skippyfx|wabbit | then aguf was fixed |
| 02:28.43 | skippyfx|wabbit | and it was fine |
| 02:28.43 | kenlyric | just get 4 gigs of ram and 4 cpu cores and pitbull raid frames are fine |
| 02:28.49 | skippyfx|wabbit | LOL |
| 02:29.05 | bigzero | I had another idea yesterday for a mod (more like a lib) that would inspect a target and try to guess its professions based on like ring enchants, trinkets, w/e else different professions make that is bop. Kinda useless imo lol, but I was wondering what you guys think |
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| 02:29.15 | mjc2 | kenlyric: sounds like my box actually |
| 02:29.32 | kenlyric | are we sure the game doesn't share that information? :) |
| 02:29.39 | Xinhuan | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 02:29.40 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 4h 58m 27s) #wowace (1d 4h 58m 27s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 18h 42m 39s, last said: 'Xinhuan, that'll stop them showing for get=false untill you type into them'. |
| 02:29.51 | Nargiddley | Xinhuan ? |
| 02:29.56 | Xinhuan | PMs :) |
| 02:30.00 | pb_ee1 | ho, i'm using grid for raids, pitbull only for me, target, target of target, pet and focus |
| 02:30.25 | pb_ee1 | Xinhuan: you've got a demo of the roster at http://www.lzroster.com/demo/ btw |
| 02:32.47 | Zhinjio | pb_ee1: how is it different/better than wowroster/rpgo_CharacterProfiler? |
| 02:33.07 | skippyfx|wabbit | god i love wowace updater |
| 02:33.23 | skippyfx|wabbit | every single mod is wowace |
| 02:33.25 | skippyfx|wabbit | i love it |
| 02:33.51 | skippyfx|wabbit | its like, if theres a mod on curse, most likely theres something 20x better on wowace |
| 02:33.53 | pb_ee1 | first of all www.lzroster.com is available whereas www.wowroster.net is not :p |
| 02:33.56 | kenlyric | <begin war about wau now> |
| 02:34.34 | Zhinjio | I'm using wowroster now, and have been for .... over a year? I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 02:35.07 | pb_ee1 | Zhinjio: more seriously, it's focused only on the things that are _not_ on the armory and it's multinlingual |
| 02:35.08 | bigzero | the site is down until sunday |
| 02:35.18 | pb_ee1 | yup, site is down |
| 02:35.39 | Zhinjio | oh, I misunderstood. ah, well... fortunately, I don't need their site to run mine. *grin* |
| 02:35.45 | pb_ee1 | hehe |
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| 02:36.03 | Zhinjio | can you give me an example of data that it provides that roster doesn't? |
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| 02:36.17 | pb_ee1 | Actually I think that wowroster is muuuch too big for a roster |
| 02:36.23 | pb_ee1 | I wanted something much more lighter than that |
| 02:36.57 | pb_ee1 | I don't need honor, quests, pvp or whatever, we only use the roster to find a particular craft/tradeskill |
| 02:37.36 | pb_ee1 | I don't find it very beautiful, too ;p but that's only an opinion |
| 02:38.13 | pb_ee1 | and you cannot see who is participating the most to the roster |
| 02:38.38 | pb_ee1 | I don't say it's better, it's only different |
| 02:38.42 | Zhinjio | in the 2.0 version you can, with witchhunt. |
| 02:38.59 | pb_ee1 | Witchhunt? |
| 02:39.22 | CIA-4 | 03merl * r58384 10mHud/ (embeds.xml mHud.lua mHudMenu.lua): |
| 02:39.23 | CIA-4 | mHud: |
| 02:39.23 | CIA-4 | - Added focus events |
| 02:39.23 | CIA-4 | - Fixed falloffs when disabled and enabling - not done testing. |
| 02:39.23 | CIA-4 | - Corrected Waterfall path |
| 02:39.31 | Zhinjio | its a plugin for wowroster, available from the same site. it gives you a listing of the people who have never updated, and those who do so infrequently |
| 02:39.35 | Zhinjio | etc |
| 02:40.01 | pb_ee1 | ho didn't know that :p |
| 02:40.18 | pb_ee1 | lzroster has been coded conforming to the W3C standards (yay ^^) |
| 02:40.30 | kenlyric | man |
| 02:40.30 | buu | Ellipsis: [outside] doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:40.42 | kenlyric | I'd really be interested to know what's up with the ho |
| 02:40.48 | pb_ee1 | Anyway, the best way to have an advice on it is to look at the demo :) |
| 02:41.01 | kenlyric | buu: how are you using it? |
| 02:41.44 | Ellipsis | buu: maybe outdoors? not sure |
| 02:42.28 | Kivin | Have you checked cogwheel's guide? |
| 02:42.34 | kenlyric | it is outdoors |
| 02:43.04 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.06 | pb_ee1 | Zhinjio: LZRoster is the only roster that lets you upload data from several languages at the same time. Not usefull for all guilds, but usefull for French, Spanish, German, ... guilds |
| 02:43.10 | kenlyric | that's what i use. |
| 02:43.32 | kenlyric | lets you use Ctrl to force hte land mount. |
| 02:43.32 | mjc2 | meh what level do I learn consecration |
| 02:43.39 | kenlyric | good for when you have crappy flying mount. |
| 02:44.08 | Zhinjio | yeah, not useful for me. And 2.0 is currently going through the translation phase to provide that function as well. Anyway... it sounds like there is no real compelling reason for me to look into it. |
| 02:44.37 | mjc2 | 20. bah. |
| 02:44.47 | pb_ee1 | hehe, again: look at the demo, make your advice and choose. simple ;) |
| 02:45.48 | Zhinjio | I have chosen: simple. you're asking me to take my valuable time and investigate something without a compelling reason to do so. |
| 02:47.41 | pb_ee1 | lol, going to bed, i think i'll learn more things in it than speaking with you :p^ |
| 02:49.21 | skippyfx|wabbit | is there any way to make the distance at wich nameplates show larger? |
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| 02:50.52 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58385 10Deadened/ (Deadened.lua localization.lua): Deadened: Added a "tankmode" switch, which changes Deadened to suppress Spirit Shock and instead show Deaden casts, for Spell Reflect purposes. |
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| 02:52.35 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc is that a quartz plugin? or standalone? |
| 02:52.56 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Standalone. It can suppress cast bars in multiple addons, including Quartz, Antagonist, and PitBull |
| 02:53.23 | Antiarc | It's more of a "helper" addon for people that use those addons so they don't have to hack Quartz et al anymore |
| 02:53.38 | Antiarc | Just install it and it'll do the Quartz hacking for you so you don't have to mod Quartz each time you update |
| 02:53.54 | FtH|Daemona | great :) i am always kinda annoyed to search the spot to modify quartz again after updating :) |
| 02:54.50 | skippyfx|wabbit | quartz hacking? |
| 02:55.29 | FtH|Daemona | to supress deaden cast bars at EoS e.g. |
| 02:55.38 | Zhinjio | pp_ee1 will never be a salesperson, clearly. |
| 02:55.57 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: It only has enUS localization right now. If you use another language, please add the proper translations in localizations.lua |
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| 02:56.09 | Antiarc | (Since you called it EoS, and it's RoS in the enUS version!) |
| 02:56.15 | FtH|Daemona | i dont care, i use enGB ;) |
| 02:56.18 | Antiarc | Hehe, okay |
| 02:56.56 | FtH|Daemona | and i never get the difference ... essence of souls, reliquiary of souls... |
| 02:57.22 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 02:57.26 | Antiarc | Essence makes more sense to me |
| 02:57.54 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 02:57.56 | m4rku5 | RoS is the whole encounter, EoS is one of the forms |
| 02:58.08 | Xinhuan | i killed RoS for the first time yesterday too Antiarc :) |
| 02:58.16 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Grats :D |
| 02:58.24 | Antiarc | We did our first RoS pulls yesterday |
| 02:58.30 | Antiarc | 3 pulls, got halfway through P2 |
| 02:58.34 | Antiarc | So we should be able to get him soon |
| 02:58.42 | Xinhuan | what method do you use for p2 |
| 02:58.44 | Antiarc | Esp. since we run a high DPS raid, so P3 should be easy. |
| 02:58.45 | Xinhuan | for interrupts |
| 02:58.49 | Antiarc | 2 rogues, trading off |
| 02:58.52 | FtH|Daemona | i dont count the kills anymore.. we are in month 7 of BT farming :X |
| 02:58.56 | Xinhuan | we used 3 mages for CS |
| 02:59.08 | Pkekyo| | I hate you FtH|Daemona |
| 02:59.10 | Antiarc | We only got boned because a shaman got twitchy and ES'ed a deaden |
| 02:59.35 | Antiarc | But we were doing awesome up till then. It's really easy with 2 rogues as long as you're not worrying about the deaden castbar. |
| 02:59.46 | Xinhuan | CS has a 8 sec lockout, so 24 secs cooldown, 3 mages is sufficient |
| 02:59.49 | Xinhuan | my raid leader is awesome |
| 02:59.57 | Xinhuan | he will call out "next cast is very likely to be deaden" |
| 03:00.02 | FtH|Daemona | we rotate with 5 melee, more overall dps ;) |
| 03:00.04 | Xinhuan | and so we won't miss |
| 03:01.14 | FtH|Daemona | guess the only reason i still raid is because we are farming both instances in 1 1/2 raid days... |
| 03:01.34 | FtH|Daemona | and because i am conducting the 100% avoidance project from the EJ forums |
| 03:01.41 | FtH|Daemona | and want a shot at the shadowmoon insignia ;) |
| 03:02.18 | Xinhuan | i also discovered doing 10k fireballs on RoS is bad, 5k reflected, then 1000 damage ticks reflected on ignite |
| 03:02.32 | Xinhuan | or something like that |
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| 03:02.44 | Stan_ | some mages say arcane is best for RoS |
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| 03:03.43 | FtH|Daemona | some ppl say melees suck ^^ |
| 03:03.45 | Killmore | some mages say pie is better than cake |
| 03:03.49 | FtH|Daemona | it all depends on your gear |
| 03:05.36 | FtH|Daemona | goddamn darkmoon faire... camping for 5 hours now and only 2 gems |
| 03:05.43 | FtH|Daemona | i kinda feel like if they nerfed it |
| 03:06.33 | FtH|Daemona | and yes, i was alone there for the last 3 hours... its 4 am over here ^^ |
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| 03:06.50 | Estil | I want to get the fortune that says "divine shield and hearthstone do not make hero heroic" |
| 03:07.42 | FtH|Daemona | and i just want 22 red bt gems :X |
| 03:07.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i had that one once |
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| 03:07.51 | FtH|Daemona | is it already christmas again? ;) |
| 03:08.07 | Pkekyo| | tape sticks really good onto tape O.o |
| 03:08.34 | FtH|Daemona | and super glue is realy sticky between thumb and pointy finger |
| 03:08.49 | NightHawkTheSane | so's your mom. |
| 03:08.53 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58386 10Deadened/localization.lua: Deadened: Added deDE localization |
| 03:10.35 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58387 10Deadened/Deadened.lua: Deadened: Add error message if you try to use Deadened for a non-supported locale |
| 03:10.58 | FtH|Daemona | isnt deaden on babble Antiarc ? |
| 03:11.05 | Antiarc | No |
| 03:11.07 | Antiarc | Not when I checked |
| 03:11.17 | Stan_ | no need to use huge babble when you only need 2 spells |
| 03:11.20 | FtH|Daemona | strange, as its announcement and bars work well in bigwigs |
| 03:11.31 | FtH|Daemona | Stan_ 99% have babble anyway |
| 03:11.37 | FtH|Daemona | when using BigWigs |
| 03:11.43 | Antiarc | They're probably localized in BW itself |
| 03:11.50 | Antiarc | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua <-- no Deaden |
| 03:11.54 | Pkekyo| | meh, the intarwebs has been a bad influence for me ;< |
| 03:12.38 | FtH|Daemona | no more hentain pr0n for you Pkekyo| and no dinner ... go to your room, NOW |
| 03:12.39 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
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| 03:13.07 | Pkekyo| | FtH|Daemona: I don't do hentai....tentaclerape is just too far out |
| 03:13.10 | JoshBork1 | hrm, |
| 03:13.12 | JoshBork1 | Antiarc: what's Deadened? |
| 03:13.23 | Stan_ | a cast from RoS |
| 03:13.24 | FtH|Daemona | youve got 3 gueses JoshBork1 |
| 03:13.36 | Stan_ | oh noes I solved the riddle |
| 03:13.38 | Antiarc | JoshBork1: Suppresses cast bars for Deaden/Spirit Shock in multiple addons, to make Reliquary of Souls easier |
| 03:13.54 | JoshBork1 | nifty i suppose |
| 03:14.01 | FtH|Daemona | very |
| 03:14.35 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: you know you'll be back to raiding as soon as either 2.4 or wotlk come out, anyway, so why quit now ;D |
| 03:14.44 | Antiarc | JoshBork1: Most people hack their Quartz installs for that fight |
| 03:14.51 | Antiarc | So I figured I'd just write an addon for it |
| 03:15.04 | FtH|Daemona | today i had someone ask why i wouldnt put my char on ebay for 500 bucks... |
| 03:15.30 | FtH|Daemona | 500 bucks for a rogue that only lacks 1 trinket for perfect pve gear -.- |
| 03:15.45 | FtH|Daemona | i gues i havent flamed someone that hard for quite some time ^^ |
| 03:15.49 | Antiarc | I've got 143 days /played. At my current wage, that makes my character worth a bit over $100,000. |
| 03:15.49 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:16.00 | Seerah | lol |
| 03:16.20 | FtH|Daemona | *cough* guess you could call me a serious gamer |
| 03:16.36 | FtH|Daemona | double that play time for my main *runs and hides* |
| 03:16.42 | Pkekyo| | sod-all, I'm off |
| 03:16.47 | Pkekyo| | g'nite lads and lasses |
| 03:16.48 | Xinhuan | the amount of gold on my account, at the spamming gold rate of $40 per 1000g, is about $3200 USD |
| 03:17.05 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:17.05 | Kalroth | Antiarc: You wrote an addon to kill Deaden in Quartz? :p |
| 03:17.09 | Antiarc | Kalroth: Yes. |
| 03:17.23 | Antiarc | And Antagonist, and PitBull, and anything else someone wants to write a module for. |
| 03:17.23 | Kalroth | Being the regular pummeler, I thank you. :) |
| 03:17.45 | kebinusan | nice idea |
| 03:17.59 | JoshBork1 | don't thank antiarc, it only makes his ego bigger |
| 03:18.01 | FtH|Daemona | 80k, not bad not bad xin |
| 03:18.10 | Kalroth | JoshBork1: He's well hung too! |
| 03:18.12 | Ellipsis | but his ego is big enough already |
| 03:18.56 | FtH|Daemona | can it go even bigger after Omen? |
| 03:19.07 | Antiarc | I work hard at not having an ego :( |
| 03:19.35 | Xinhuan | i also have an orange bug mount, 310% mount, all but executioner enchant, all but 2 jc recipes and 486 days /played :) |
| 03:19.40 | Xinhuan | estimate account price pls |
| 03:19.51 | Gnarfoz | you left out grand marshal |
| 03:19.51 | Xinhuan | oh rank 14 too |
| 03:19.52 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 03:19.57 | Gnarfoz | eheh |
| 03:20.09 | FtH|Daemona | :) |
| 03:20.30 | Stan_ | Xinhuan: forgot your reputations |
| 03:20.35 | Gnarfoz | 31 exalted? |
| 03:20.35 | Seerah | hax |
| 03:20.37 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 03:20.38 | Xinhuan | ok 31 exalted factions |
| 03:20.39 | FtH|Daemona | hmm gold on eu-servers is currently 35eu/1100gold |
| 03:20.43 | kebinusan | Xinhuan: 1 dollar |
| 03:20.48 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: if you can't get anyone to pay for a rank 14 account, grats to you. |
| 03:20.52 | Gnarfoz | srsly, must be one of the more 'expensive' accounts, if you follow that view |
| 03:20.58 | kenlyric | also, sorry about that life you may have had once. |
| 03:21.04 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 03:21.04 | kenlyric | grats on getting it back? |
| 03:21.18 | Xinhuan | making addons forces you to AFK in ironforge a lot OK! |
| 03:21.19 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: like he'd get the life back even if he sold his char |
| 03:21.21 | NightHawkTheSane | he'd just do it again |
| 03:21.31 | kenlyric | well, he couldn't do rank 14 again |
| 03:21.41 | kebinusan | sounds like I wish there was a /played part for time spent idling in a major city |
| 03:21.42 | Health | kk |
| 03:21.42 | Xinhuan | my 5v5 is called Defenders of Ironforge |
| 03:21.44 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 03:21.48 | kenlyric | that's a singular achievement of botting or basement dwelling. |
| 03:21.49 | Xinhuan | well i don't arena now |
| 03:22.06 | kenlyric | kebinusan: I want one for any time spent idle. |
| 03:22.17 | JoshBork1 | Xinhuan: coding should be done on a different toon :P |
| 03:22.20 | Xinhuan | someone made that addon kebinusan |
| 03:22.21 | kebinusan | eh, If only you could connect to wow in game chat via irc |
| 03:22.27 | Xinhuan | forgot the name though |
| 03:22.47 | Xinhuan | no JoshBork1, i earn heaps of $$ on my jc/ench coding main :) |
| 03:22.51 | kenlyric | all my toons hit max level with way too much /played because of afk and needless trips to places. |
| 03:23.02 | JoshBork1 | that's true too i suppose |
| 03:23.06 | Xinhuan | since i do the service sector |
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| 03:23.11 | FtH|Daemona | agreed |
| 03:23.26 | FtH|Daemona | i am too cheap to idle on my enchant twink.... |
| 03:23.42 | FtH|Daemona | i am even to cheap to get em the best rod... for executioner and sunfire |
| 03:24.11 | Xinhuan | you'll get back that investment pretty quickly |
| 03:24.43 | Xinhuan | not too many people have that enchant |
| 03:25.05 | FtH|Daemona | naah, i am 1 of 5 horde resilience on chest enchanters... and that stupid f*cktards dont charge pppl for enchanting it... if i say gimme 10g for enchanting if you bring mats they jut laugh at me :( |
| 03:25.28 | FtH|Daemona | in my guild 7 enchanters know executioner |
| 03:25.42 | FtH|Daemona | 2 mains and 5 alts... |
| 03:25.49 | Xinhuan | WTF |
| 03:26.00 | Xinhuan | i've done like za every 3 days since 2.3.0 |
| 03:26.03 | Xinhuan | never seen it drop |
| 03:26.15 | FtH|Daemona | 4 chests timed on mainchars with 3-4 minutes left.... |
| 03:26.18 | Xinhuan | it also took me 11 months of kara to get all 4 enchants |
| 03:26.20 | FtH|Daemona | 3 chests timed with alts |
| 03:26.35 | FtH|Daemona | yeah i lack surefooted and mongoose |
| 03:27.15 | FtH|Daemona | but then again... i dont know many that call a shadowpriest with 1200 shadow dmg an alt char ;) |
| 03:27.39 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 03:27.43 | Xinhuan | whats your main |
| 03:27.51 | FtH|Daemona | For the Horde - Daemona |
| 03:27.52 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 03:27.57 | Xinhuan | i mean, class |
| 03:28.00 | FtH|Daemona | Rogue |
| 03:28.19 | FtH|Daemona | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Daemona |
| 03:28.45 | Xinhuan | wtb 2.4 |
| 03:28.55 | FtH|Daemona | wtb 2.4 already last year -.- |
| 03:29.06 | FtH|Daemona | as i said before... farming BT for 7 month sucks |
| 03:30.27 | CIA-4 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r58388 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (AceGUI-3.0.lua widgets/AceGUIWidget-InlineGroup.lua): Ace3 - AceGUI: InlineGroup no longer causes its parent to layout, Flow Layout will trigger a layout in children after placing them. This should fix all layout related lockups for good. |
| 03:30.27 | FtH|Daemona | to keep my self focused to a target i started gathering rogue tank gear... |
| 03:30.27 | FtH|Daemona | now i only lack some hard to get stuff, like a second t6 chest and shoulds... the bloodboil tank trinket... |
| 03:30.27 | FtH|Daemona | working on getting 100% avoidance ;) |
| 03:30.27 | FtH|Daemona | guess you could call that bored of current content. |
| 03:30.34 | JoshBork1 | wtb someone to run me through content =/ |
| 03:30.54 | FtH|Daemona | be a hunter, have skill and transfer to eu-destromath |
| 03:31.12 | FtH|Daemona | and sign that you won't ebay within the next 6 month |
| 03:31.22 | FtH|Daemona | because you will be geared within 2 weeks ... |
| 03:31.33 | JoshBork1 | wtb new version eqdkp that lets you upload per participant DKP values |
| 03:31.37 | kenlyric | six months? |
| 03:31.40 | kenlyric | I can commit to that. |
| 03:31.54 | kenlyric | EU will be the hard part. |
| 03:31.59 | FtH|Daemona | ^^ |
| 03:32.24 | kebinusan | JB: ? |
| 03:32.37 | FtH|Daemona | and dkp are so 2007 ... |
| 03:32.38 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 03:32.49 | FtH|Daemona | loot council is the magic word |
| 03:33.07 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.39 | FtH|Daemona | thats why loot council is run by 5 knowledgable players that are not officers ;) |
| 03:34.06 | JoshBork1 | my guild isn't a raiding guild, they just raid |
| 03:34.07 | Stan_ | what's a loot council? |
| 03:34.10 | JoshBork1 | it's stupid |
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| 03:34.28 | FtH|Daemona | Stan_ o.O |
| 03:34.33 | kenlyric | JoshBork1: we have an idiot on our server who claims they're not a raiding guild, they're a guild that raids. |
| 03:34.47 | kenlyric | what they mean is "we're a raiding guild that sucks" |
| 03:34.48 | Stan_ | FtH|Daemona: don't know what it is^^ |
| 03:34.51 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric is that another term for casual? |
| 03:34.53 | JoshBork1 | kenlyric: no shit =D |
| 03:35.08 | JoshBork1 | FtH|Daemona: my guild is a guild that raids and we consider ourselves casual |
| 03:35.18 | Esteth | its where a group of players decide who gets what, instead of having some sort of system |
| 03:35.26 | JoshBork1 | guess how often we raid and for how long |
| 03:35.38 | FtH|Daemona | kk, i consider my guild hardcore raiding, i am doing drugs and drums... i admit it :*( |
| 03:35.49 | JoshBork1 | go on, guess! |
| 03:35.56 | FtH|Daemona | erhm haste pots and drums... damn i killed the joke |
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| 03:36.37 | FtH|Daemona | JoshBork1 you do karazhan every 2 weeks up to curator? :X |
| 03:37.07 | JoshBork1 | my guild raids Tu, Th, Su, Mo and sometimes We from 7:30 ST - 11 ST |
| 03:37.25 | JoshBork1 | s/We from/We raid from/ |
| 03:37.35 | JoshBork1 | and we're stuck on Al'ar :( |
| 03:37.49 | FtH|Daemona | ok... i am raiding Wednesday 6pm to 11pm and thursdays from 6pm to illidan dead... which usually is somewhen areound 9-10pm |
| 03:37.53 | FtH|Daemona | :( |
| 03:38.00 | JoshBork1 | i'll trade you |
| 03:38.24 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: is that Xasz of yours originally from Aegwynn? |
| 03:38.34 | Thelyna | not really a fair comparison Daemona ... how many raids were you doing when you were, say 6/9? |
| 03:38.56 | FtH|Daemona | on off days doing karazhan with 3rd toons, timed ZA with 2nd toons and mains each |
| 03:39.05 | FtH|Daemona | Thelyna uuuh hardcore progress? |
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| 03:39.17 | JoshBork1 | what was hardcore progress? |
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| 03:39.33 | FtH|Daemona | mo-thu 6-11pm |
| 03:39.44 | FtH|Daemona | saturday and sunday as often as we got a working zerg |
| 03:39.49 | Thelyna | for us we're 4/5 4/9 (working on archi) and 5 raids a week, 4h raids |
| 03:40.16 | JoshBork1 | 4 days a week doesn't seem casual to me :-/ |
| 03:40.34 | Thelyna | it's not |
| 03:40.44 | Thelyna | si why do you consider yourself casual? |
| 03:41.02 | FtH|Daemona | Gnarfoz dunno you xasz is one of those "he is a pvp friend of mine i know in reallife and just transfered here, can he join the guild" that never raids with us |
| 03:41.09 | JoshBork1 | because if I didn't I'd have to say we were all incompetent |
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| 03:41.29 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: sounds just like the Xasz I knew there, then ;D |
| 03:41.30 | kenlyric | you'd have to tell the truth? |
| 03:41.33 | FtH|Daemona | s/you/our |
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| 03:41.45 | JoshBork1 | kenlyric: exactly |
| 03:42.24 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric truth about what? |
| 03:42.46 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: about his guild being filled with fail :) |
| 03:42.47 | FtH|Daemona | aah you meant josh |
| 03:43.06 | FtH|Daemona | honestly, i see the fail every saturday when we do welfare raids on ssc / tk |
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| 03:43.28 | kenlyric | you have a diifferent level of fail than he. |
| 03:43.39 | JoshBork1 | i want to get in on a welfare raid of SSC/TK |
| 03:43.41 | kenlyric | it's an entirely different exponent. |
| 03:43.54 | FtH|Daemona | 4 hours ssc :( |
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| 03:44.05 | CIA-4 | - Added some German translations, a lot still missing |
| 03:44.07 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: which is better than 0 hour SCC :) |
| 03:44.16 | kenlyric | *SSC |
| 03:44.23 | FtH|Daemona | my personal fail is our feral druid... he does less dps than my lvl 69 alt druid *cough* |
| 03:44.24 | kenlyric | or 4 night SSC |
| 03:44.26 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: that's almost as slow as us, and we've just reached vashj ;D |
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| 03:45.09 | FtH|Daemona | we downed vashj flawless today, first try with ~15 randoms, that kinda made my day... and got my shadowpriest hyjal and bt attuned (if he gets a winterchill kill) ^^ |
| 03:46.04 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: you aren't even allowed to use the word fail. |
| 03:46.26 | FtH|Daemona | it's really satisfying if you explain an encouter to people that never experienced it before and perform on a niveau that you never would have expected... |
| 03:46.35 | bigzero | anyone ever noticed that closetgnome equips the last equipped set instead of the last combination of gear before mounting when you dismount |
| 03:46.39 | FtH|Daemona | i dont like the word fail :( |
| 03:46.55 | FtH|Daemona | bigzero of course? |
| 03:47.09 | FtH|Daemona | how should closetgnome remember the combination? it only remebers sets |
| 03:47.30 | bigzero | before mounting, save your "set" and put it back on when dismounting |
| 03:47.35 | kenlyric | you may not like it, but it applies to some that play this game :) |
| 03:47.49 | bigzero | or, since I tell it to only change my trinket when i mount, it should be smart enough to only change that slot back |
| 03:47.54 | FtH|Daemona | if you do that more often ... save that combination as it seems to happen often for yuo bigzero ;) |
| 03:48.48 | bigzero | well, i don't do it that often, i just find this way to be more intuitive. ItemRack used to do it that way. |
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| 03:49.47 | FtH|Daemona | but you'd wonder what gets me enraged on regular FtH raids... |
| 03:50.05 | FtH|Daemona | e.g. killing people that are mindcontrolled instead of crowd-controlling em |
| 03:50.20 | JoshBork1 | killing is more fun |
| 03:50.38 | FtH|Daemona | i just dont understand why ppl dont get that it takes far longer to rezz up, buff up ... than it takes to throw a sheep |
| 03:50.40 | kenlyric | it ups the excitement level. |
| 03:50.51 | kneeki | Hmm, how do I go about resetting/lost my password for SVN? |
| 03:50.53 | kenlyric | they get it |
| 03:50.54 | FtH|Daemona | and those that do it are the first about it to moan if it takes longer... |
| 03:50.59 | kenlyric | they don't care. It's an important distinction |
| 03:51.13 | FtH|Daemona | kneeki you pm an admin on the forum i guess. |
| 03:51.18 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: right, which is why it's mostly terrible to play games with other people, even at your level. |
| 03:51.36 | kenlyric | they like being jerkwards, until it happens to them. |
| 03:51.56 | kneeki | Dang! |
| 03:51.57 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric i don't consider myself playing on a higher level, its just a aggregation of a certain amount of hardcore players |
| 03:52.20 | FtH|Daemona | you'd wonder how many idiots we got... that tag along, push their buttons but have no deep insight in what they are doing, |
| 03:52.35 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 03:52.52 | Gnarfoz | so ist das :< |
| 03:53.04 | bigzero | kneeki, send an email to the same address as account requests |
| 03:53.05 | Gnarfoz | that's how it is -.- |
| 03:53.41 | FtH|Daemona | my personal favourite is that paladin, that is in the guild since vanilla closed beta... got kinda the "i am special" flag and doesnt get punished when afk'ing while trash... this ticks me off |
| 03:54.24 | Gnarfoz | heh, vitamin-b raid is what we called that ;D |
| 03:54.27 | FtH|Daemona | last time i checked he was playing team fortress when we were doing mother sharaz trash and then was complaining why he was dead when he had sticked to a ranged dps... |
| 03:54.30 | kneeki | bigzero, I just did. Thanks :) |
| 03:54.56 | FtH|Daemona | if i had ANY administrative power, he wouldnt be in the guild anymore. |
| 03:55.23 | FtH|Daemona | just for his bigass wrong attitude... but then again, he isnt one of those idiots that tag along in new content. |
| 03:55.27 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: that happened to me... a rogue playing pokeman silver. |
| 03:55.30 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to open the mining and JC window in the same time? |
| 03:55.44 | kenlyric | an ADULT MALE playing pokeman silver. |
| 03:55.51 | FtH|Daemona | no, you cant have 2 tradeskill screens open at the same time i think dodge |
| 03:56.02 | [SW]Dodge | ok :/ |
| 03:56.14 | [SW]Dodge | then i have to wait ~.~ |
| 03:56.19 | Gnarfoz | anyone playing pokemon whatever scares me |
| 03:56.41 | FtH|Daemona | i had a tamagochi ... 10 years ago? ;) |
| 03:56.51 | kenlyric | or he'd have parties at his house, and during boss fights he'd describe some guitar hero player in detail. |
| 03:57.19 | FtH|Daemona | oh my nothing worse than some notoriously talking raider in ventrilo.... |
| 03:57.27 | kenlyric | he's a rogue, so all he does is stab. |
| 03:57.33 | kenlyric | I actually have to hear things. |
| 03:57.34 | Kivin | my raid talks *non-stop* in kara, but it's... kara |
| 03:57.41 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric then he is a bad rogue... |
| 03:57.47 | kenlyric | that's when I learned ot just mute everyone. |
| 03:57.53 | Kivin | it's mostly okay, except for the guild leader, who gabs constantly with 3 people that live near her about anything and everything |
| 03:57.55 | kenlyric | unmute raid leaders |
| 03:58.12 | FtH|Daemona | 10 mans, sure we talk a lot too, but 25 mans its 3 ppl talking, mt, raid lead, taction/special jobs |
| 03:58.24 | Kivin | yeah, that's how it was in MC |
| 03:58.30 | Kivin | sit down, strap in, and stfu |
| 03:58.45 | Gnarfoz | I wish it was like that for us |
| 03:58.52 | Gnarfoz | we could ACTUALL get stuff killed |
| 03:58.52 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 03:58.56 | kenlyric | oh, how my life would be different if I found a guild like that. |
| 03:58.57 | Gnarfoz | +Y |
| 03:59.25 | FtH|Daemona | be a hunter, have some skill, transfer to eu-destromath |
| 03:59.26 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 03:59.32 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 03:59.34 | kenlyric | right, I have those things except EU |
| 03:59.45 | Gnarfoz | me too, 2 out of 3 |
| 03:59.49 | kenlyric | well, "skill" has never been tested except for the headless horseman. |
| 03:59.51 | Kivin | hehe |
| 04:00.03 | Kivin | my huntard is a level away from 70 |
| 04:00.03 | Gnarfoz | (missing: huntard) |
| 04:00.15 | FtH|Daemona | btw.. i got my ass handed to a BM hunter on wednesday |
| 04:00.25 | FtH|Daemona | obviously blizzard fubar'd shot rotations |
| 04:00.33 | FtH|Daemona | they introduced melee mechanics for ranged. |
| 04:00.33 | Kivin | fubared how? |
| 04:00.46 | FtH|Daemona | aka, white-shots timer wasnt interupted by pecial shots |
| 04:00.49 | kenlyric | though, for a raiding hunter, the "skill" is pretty easy to get. |
| 04:00.53 | Gnarfoz | that's been fixed now |
| 04:01.03 | Kivin | FtH|Daemona: steady shot doesn't interrupt, aimed does |
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| 04:01.20 | Gnarfoz | also it was only with the new !toggle macro option |
| 04:01.21 | FtH|Daemona | kivin nothing did interupt it |
| 04:01.33 | FtH|Daemona | he was pushing some 300dps more than usual ;) |
| 04:01.47 | Gnarfoz | normal ppl abused that to pwn in pvp |
| 04:01.57 | kenlyric | hunter skill in raids is making a better macro. |
| 04:02.04 | Gnarfoz | hardcore raiders do that ;P |
| 04:02.08 | FtH|Daemona | steady + kill command -.- |
| 04:03.07 | FtH|Daemona | if i would do interviews for recruiting... i would ask "whats your favourite wow related forums" and if the answer wasnt elitist-jerks i would deny their application |
| 04:03.12 | kenlyric | maybe aspect juggling is a skill. |
| 04:03.30 | Kivin | lol @ the ej |
| 04:04.16 | FtH|Daemona | kivin its not funny... we got a feral druid doing less dps in dps gear and cat form than one of our def tanks in dps gear... |
| 04:04.34 | Gnarfoz | let me guess |
| 04:04.37 | Gnarfoz | he was feral before BC? |
| 04:04.45 | Kivin | Time to slap him exactly three times and tell him to stop being a scrub |
| 04:04.54 | kenlyric | he just ferocious bites |
| 04:04.57 | FtH|Daemona | dunno he was recruited late t5 |
| 04:05.01 | kenlyric | time to kick him out |
| 04:05.41 | FtH|Daemona | but then again... we have to more that arnt active and very good, because they cant stand farming t6 anymore ;) |
| 04:06.02 | Kivin | When I was doing a recruiting pump for my personal Kara (which never ended up happening), I had a rogue apply who said he is a "Hemo Mace PVE Spec" |
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| 04:06.06 | Kivin | Part of me died inside |
| 04:06.12 | kenlyric | I don't see how you could, it's been seven months. |
| 04:06.20 | FtH|Daemona | i'd get bored either i guess if i had 3 full t6 sets |
| 04:06.47 | FtH|Daemona | Kivin then you need to learn more about rogues ;) |
| 04:06.55 | Kivin | FtH|Daemona: I've been a rogue since shortly after beta |
| 04:06.58 | FtH|Daemona | there was a time in late 2007 when hemo mace was realy strong |
| 04:07.09 | FtH|Daemona | but i assume he didnt know how to spec properly |
| 04:07.17 | kenlyric | what would a stun do in PVE? |
| 04:07.20 | Kivin | FtH|Daemona: His spec screamed Arena |
| 04:07.25 | kenlyric | or am i thinking warrior mace? |
| 04:07.30 | Kivin | kenlyric: same thing |
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| 04:07.48 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric mace spec was changed to stun and +5% crit dmg in 2.2 (?) |
| 04:07.48 | Kivin | and he had strength + stamina gems in all his slots |
| 04:08.02 | FtH|Daemona | str+sta |
| 04:08.06 | Kivin | Indeed |
| 04:08.12 | Gnarfoz | but he was STRONG |
| 04:08.14 | Kivin | Lots of little things could have been adjusted |
| 04:08.21 | Kivin | But the big picture was just really, really bad |
| 04:08.30 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: overpowered. |
| 04:08.39 | FtH|Daemona | stfu, i miss HARP :( |
| 04:08.40 | Kivin | And the fact that he had the audacity to put "hemo", "mace", and "pve" in the same sentence made me want to stab out his eyes |
| 04:09.14 | FtH|Daemona | kvin as i said before ... 11/2x/2x was a valid spec for some time |
| 04:09.23 | FtH|Daemona | and dished out helluva dps |
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| 04:09.32 | FtH|Daemona | + raid wide bonus dmg for melee |
| 04:09.38 | Kivin | FtH|Daemona: Like I said, it was the "big picture" |
| 04:09.44 | FtH|Daemona | yeye |
| 04:09.58 | Kivin | his hit rating was complete ass |
| 04:09.58 | FtH|Daemona | guess i gonna try some 30/31/0 in arena next week |
| 04:10.51 | FtH|Daemona | well hit rating is good... but only if you run "proc heavy" aka windfury, dual proc enchants, proc trinkets |
| 04:10.59 | FtH|Daemona | makes hit rating value sky rocket |
| 04:11.08 | Kivin | Hit rating is statistically the cheapest DPS stat available to rogues |
| 04:11.10 | Gnarfoz | I want BT gems finally, +2 more hit out of every slot where +8 gems are now would be sweet |
| 04:11.16 | Kivin | no matter what spec |
| 04:12.06 | FtH|Daemona | sure it is kivin, but there has been a time were rogues worshipped the hit cap |
| 04:12.15 | kenlyric | Kivin: isn't it that way for a lot of classes? |
| 04:12.15 | FtH|Daemona | and that was plain stupid if you had the wrong gear |
| 04:12.23 | FtH|Daemona | no kenlyric |
| 04:12.28 | FtH|Daemona | warrior generally not |
| 04:12.35 | Kivin | Fury, yeah, sorta |
| 04:12.36 | Tem | melee don't try to be hit capped? |
| 04:12.39 | FtH|Daemona | enh. shaman to limited extend |
| 04:12.41 | Kivin | Not I-Slam |
| 04:12.54 | kenlyric | I was think of spriest. |
| 04:12.59 | kenlyric | *ing |
| 04:13.09 | FtH|Daemona | Tem since the change hit cap for a rogue is 5% spec + 363 rating ;) |
| 04:13.26 | Gnarfoz | it's a bit too far out there now |
| 04:13.33 | FtH|Daemona | naah Gnarfoz |
| 04:13.39 | Tem | that's a buttload of hit rating |
| 04:13.42 | kenlyric | in any case, hit rating food is a pretty good use of the food slot. |
| 04:13.45 | FtH|Daemona | i could reach it.. if i would get a madness sometime... |
| 04:13.48 | Gnarfoz | alright, for t4/t5 equip |
| 04:13.50 | Tem | mages only need like 180ish to be hit capped |
| 04:14.03 | Stan_ | spriests need 76 :p |
| 04:14.07 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, thats because you need 14% ? |
| 04:14.13 | Stan_ | 16 |
| 04:14.15 | FtH|Daemona | i need ~28 |
| 04:14.27 | Tem | thankfully, I only pvp |
| 04:14.31 | Tem | so hit cap for me is 3% |
| 04:14.32 | Gnarfoz | I reached the cap in blue equip before I even started raiding back then :| |
| 04:14.45 | FtH|Daemona | Gnarfoz you know roguespot.com? |
| 04:15.03 | Kivin | My poor ret paladin is way over the hit cap. got almost 11% |
| 04:15.12 | Kivin | all i seem to get is attack power / hit rating gear |
| 04:15.16 | kenlyric | 20 hit vs 40ap... |
| 04:15.20 | Gnarfoz | sure, dunno what I read there, though |
| 04:15.35 | FtH|Daemona | i proved there somewhen in may last year that you could hit cap at pre-heroic gear ;) |
| 04:15.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, obviously |
| 04:15.47 | FtH|Daemona | with ~1.6k ap and 20some crit |
| 04:16.48 | Gnarfoz | still it's the same old, again, for me... weighing giving up some +hit to gain some +something else |
| 04:16.59 | *** part/#wowace kneeki (n=kneeki@c-67-185-223-220.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:17.02 | Kivin | Is ranged hit cap the same as a 2 handed hit cap? |
| 04:17.26 | FtH|Daemona | 8% or so yes |
| 04:17.31 | Kivin | kk |
| 04:17.35 | kenlyric | 5/5.5/6/9 |
| 04:18.08 | drc|away | 8.6% is the 2h/1h+something that's not a weapon cap |
| 04:18.18 | FtH|Daemona | style/styleboss/white/whiteboss or whats that kenlyric? ;) |
| 04:18.18 | kenlyric | there's some sort of fight if +3 is 8.6 or 9. I haven't troubled enough to test myself. |
| 04:18.19 | drc|away | not sure about the ranged cap, though |
| 04:18.21 | kenlyric | I think ej say 9 |
| 04:18.33 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: 0/+1/+2/+3 |
| 04:18.55 | FtH|Daemona | aah k |
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| 04:19.27 | kenlyric | the hit food gives me hit cap for pvp in my awesome green gear.:) |
| 04:19.38 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 04:19.44 | FtH|Daemona | hit food is pure sex |
| 04:19.46 | FtH|Daemona | i love it |
| 04:19.56 | drc|away | it is... for people that like hit, that is :P |
| 04:19.58 | kenlyric | stat point wise it seems fairly OP. |
| 04:20.03 | kenlyric | 20 hit rating vs 40 ap... |
| 04:20.06 | FtH|Daemona | i i'd be exactly capped if i regemmed pve properly with a new trinket |
| 04:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | hit food is awesome |
| 04:20.23 | sag_ich_nicht | do want |
| 04:20.24 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric if you compare... compare 20 hit with 20 agi ;) |
| 04:20.35 | drc|away | 20 str =) |
| 04:20.38 | kenlyric | how do those compare? |
| 04:20.49 | sag_ich_nicht | then i can just regem to less and just eat +hit bufffood for bosses |
| 04:20.49 | drc|away | depends on your class |
| 04:20.51 | FtH|Daemona | 20 ap and 0.5 crit before kings |
| 04:20.59 | Kivin | wow the aimed shot healing reduction is pure sex in pvp |
| 04:21.01 | Gnarfoz | how do 40ap and 20hit compare, it's hard. ;> |
| 04:21.20 | mjc2 | depends on your existing gear |
| 04:21.22 | kenlyric | i know what's it worth... just, how does it compare for itemization points? |
| 04:21.52 | FtH|Daemona | i never bothered with that... |
| 04:21.53 | kenlyric | my brain says hit food > * but I didn't do the math. |
| 04:22.09 | FtH|Daemona | you don't need to do the math there ken |
| 04:22.23 | FtH|Daemona | nothing beaths 1.3% more hit ;) |
| 04:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
| 04:22.47 | drc|away | 40 ap before kings do |
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| 04:23.19 | FtH|Daemona | don't force me to grab a spreadsheet please ;) |
| 04:23.40 | FtH|Daemona | and before kings ... kinda meee in a raid environment |
| 04:23.44 | FtH|Daemona | even with only 2 paladins |
| 04:24.00 | Gnarfoz | also "40ap before kings"... kings doesn't modify ap directly :< |
| 04:24.06 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 04:24.08 | FtH|Daemona | hit neither |
| 04:24.09 | drc|away | but strength. |
| 04:24.11 | NightHawkTheSane | it does if it comes as 20s |
| 04:24.12 | NightHawkTheSane | str |
| 04:24.18 | FtH|Daemona | ROGUES DONT USE STRENGTH |
| 04:24.20 | Gnarfoz | indeed! :D |
| 04:24.26 | drc|away | who cares about rogues, though? |
| 04:24.27 | FtH|Daemona | uuhs sry 4 caps |
| 04:24.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i never said that :P |
| 04:25.07 | FtH|Daemona | hrm ... 5:30 am |
| 04:25.16 | Kivin | Hurray for the alliance turtle in AV. The retards. |
| 04:25.21 | FtH|Daemona | !vote sleep [1] yes [2] no |
| 04:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | 2 |
| 04:25.28 | Kivin | 2 |
| 04:25.32 | drc|away | 2 |
| 04:25.44 | FtH|Daemona | -.- |
| 04:25.44 | Gnarfoz | 2 |
| 04:25.56 | drc|away | (yay, daemona's in gmt+1, too) |
| 04:25.59 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: welcome to insomniacville |
| 04:26.05 | Gnarfoz | me too :p |
| 04:26.07 | NightHawkTheSane | gmt+1 is the loser time zone |
| 04:26.15 | drc|away | na |
| 04:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | all the cool kids are in gmt-8 |
| 04:26.28 | FtH|Daemona | i gonna go mad if i have to click the faire vendors for more than 10 minutes more.... |
| 04:26.34 | Gnarfoz | you got a MINUS in your time zone, how lame is that |
| 04:26.36 | FtH|Daemona | freerefills rocks... clicking doesnt |
| 04:26.43 | [dRaCo] | yay. |
| 04:26.52 | [dRaCo] | ghosting ftw |
| 04:27.03 | FtH|Daemona | took some time ^^ |
| 04:27.11 | [dRaCo] | yeah... |
| 04:27.20 | FtH|Daemona | gmt-8 isnt that blizzard mean time? |
| 04:27.28 | kenlyric | UTC is the only time |
| 04:27.32 | [dRaCo] | been waiting for it to timeout |
| 04:27.34 | FtH|Daemona | aah no thats gmt +8 ^^ |
| 04:27.37 | [dRaCo] | didnt, tough |
| 04:27.44 | Kivin | blizz is GMT-8 |
| 04:27.58 | Kivin | +8 lands you somewhere in Russia |
| 04:28.10 | NightHawkTheSane | and nothing cool is in russia |
| 04:28.17 | Gnarfoz | add some more + and it's all the same |
| 04:28.27 | FtH|Daemona | i don't care... where i am is the center and everything turns around it! |
| 04:28.32 | NightHawkTheSane | no, more + and it'd be tomorrow :P |
| 04:28.55 | Gnarfoz | shhh |
| 04:28.56 | [dRaCo] | In soviet russia, everything's cool. in fact, it's freezing. |
| 04:29.04 | [dRaCo] | well, or something like that |
| 04:29.05 | Kivin | pets shouldn't lose happiness when killed in pvp |
| 04:29.25 | Gnarfoz | yes they should |
| 04:29.35 | Gnarfoz | how else would you grief huntards :< |
| 04:29.42 | [dRaCo] | makes killing hunter's pet a lot more fun |
| 04:29.42 | Kivin | ... |
| 04:29.48 | kenlyric | well, it's the only way they have a damage penalty. |
| 04:29.51 | FtH|Daemona | if a hunter sends a pet at me, i rather kill the pet and die then going for the hunter ! |
| 04:29.58 | FtH|Daemona | just because he dared attacking me |
| 04:30.21 | kenlyric | if my pet dies it means i've killed something because somebody was very dumb. |
| 04:30.25 | kenlyric | it's a good tradeoff. |
| 04:30.39 | FtH|Daemona | your pet looses happiness, i only have to corpse |
| 04:30.45 | FtH|Daemona | not even durability loss |
| 04:30.52 | FtH|Daemona | hunter looses |
| 04:30.56 | FtH|Daemona | :D |
| 04:30.59 | Kivin | kenlyric: it's not that simple |
| 04:31.06 | [dRaCo] | why does your dead pet indicate somebody died? |
| 04:31.09 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: right, but you're not idiot. |
| 04:31.12 | Kivin | defending frostwolf keep, here, and my pet died about a dozen and a half times |
| 04:31.17 | kenlyric | so you won't keep doing it. |
| 04:31.31 | kenlyric | [dRaCo]: because they were attacking my pet, not me |
| 04:31.39 | Tem | in a BG, pets don't lose happyness |
| 04:31.46 | Tem | I found that out recently and it made me very sad |
| 04:31.59 | Tem | because it was common for me to kill a hunter pet out of spite |
| 04:32.13 | Kivin | Tem: they do |
| 04:32.17 | Tem | I do kill lock pets for that reason, though |
| 04:32.28 | Tem | because those cost shards |
| 04:32.31 | Kivin | I just had my pet go from happy to omfgcranky in about 10 seconds |
| 04:32.40 | Tem | oh awesome |
| 04:33.03 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58391 10Cryolysis2/messages/ (6 files): |
| 04:33.04 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 04:33.04 | CIA-4 | - Removed unneeded table index numbering |
| 04:33.15 | Xinhuan | if you aren't anywhere near spellhit cap, is 32 spellhit rating (2.54%) or +80 spelldmg better? |
| 04:33.42 | [dRaCo] | class? |
| 04:33.43 | Tem | Xinhuan, for what class? |
| 04:33.45 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 04:33.51 | Kivin | *sigh* morons... I just linked one of the tempest keep legendaries in trade (by someone's request) and i'm getting utterly swamped with "I BUY HOW MUCH!!" tells |
| 04:33.53 | Tem | for mages, hit > damage > haste > crit |
| 04:34.04 | [dRaCo] | yeah, hit > * |
| 04:34.07 | Tem | (point for point) |
| 04:34.10 | Xinhuan | yes but the amount of spelldamage here is quite a lot and could outweigh spellhit |
| 04:34.16 | Xinhuan | 80 vs 2.54% |
| 04:34.24 | Tem | 80 compared to 30, might overrule that, though |
| 04:34.32 | [dRaCo] | as a mage, I'd go for hitcap before anything else |
| 04:34.37 | [dRaCo] | that's just me, though |
| 04:34.47 | Xinhuan | this is only really a special case, because wearing all this 290 SR puts your hit to crap |
| 04:35.03 | [dRaCo] | oh, ok. |
| 04:35.14 | FtH|Daemona | Kivin i know stuff that is worse... |
| 04:35.19 | Xinhuan | so i guess i'll wear scryer bloodgem ;p |
| 04:35.28 | Xinhuan | and nelth's tear |
| 04:35.36 | FtH|Daemona | someone will link staff of jordan in trade and everbody and his son will relink it for half an hour |
| 04:35.46 | kenlyric | nothhing worse than trade chat, really. |
| 04:35.53 | Xinhuan | staff of jordan? heh, ppl link oranges on my server every 30 min nonstop |
| 04:36.19 | Tem | people like to link (and re-re-re-re-link) Martin Thunder on my server |
| 04:36.27 | kenlyric | staff of jordan is more rare then legendaries. |
| 04:36.33 | kenlyric | than |
| 04:36.48 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan i run around with 2 orange items 24h .. you know what happens if i move from portal orgrimmar to orgrimmar ah? ... |
| 04:37.10 | Xinhuan | HAHahaha |
| 04:37.12 | Xinhuan | i can imagine |
| 04:37.19 | kenlyric | yeah |
| 04:37.19 | Xinhuan | i run aronud with one myself |
| 04:37.22 | Gnarfoz | nevermind until we get *drumroll* THE ASHBRINGER |
| 04:37.24 | kenlyric | we all feel your goddamn pain. |
| 04:37.24 | Antiarc | wtb legendary |
| 04:37.25 | FtH|Daemona | (on my bear mount i have to add) |
| 04:37.31 | Xinhuan | literally :D |
| 04:37.46 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc .... 10k euro and its yours |
| 04:37.56 | Antiarc | Every time I say something in General, someone'a always says "omg it's the omen guy" |
| 04:38.02 | Xinhuan | O_O |
| 04:38.03 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 04:38.04 | Kivin | Hahaha. |
| 04:38.05 | Antiarc | And then I get 30 whispers telling me to stop updating Omen so much |
| 04:38.05 | Antiarc | :( |
| 04:38.06 | Gnarfoz | ahahaha |
| 04:38.15 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 04:38.19 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 04:38.31 | Gnarfoz | troubled e-fame ppl |
| 04:38.31 | FtH|Daemona | i feel with you Antiarc :) |
| 04:38.33 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r58392 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua: |
| 04:38.33 | CIA-4 | ClosetGnome: |
| 04:38.33 | CIA-4 | - koKR Update |
| 04:38.42 | Antiarc | I've taken to pugging with my alts, and then telling people in my groups that Omen's for noobs and the author's a jackass |
| 04:38.46 | Antiarc | It's always good fun :D |
| 04:38.46 | kenlyric | the last time I talked in trade chat was to announce that we had turned in the last linen bandage. |
| 04:39.10 | FtH|Daemona | oh man ... dont remind me of AQ |
| 04:39.29 | FtH|Daemona | i knew every purple lotus spawn in tanaris by the pixel |
| 04:39.42 | FtH|Daemona | that was before cartographer and routes |
| 04:40.00 | Gnarfoz | gatherer did exist, tho |
| 04:40.02 | kenlyric | I loved AQ |
| 04:40.06 | kenlyric | I made so... much.. money |
| 04:40.15 | Xinhuan | how? |
| 04:40.16 | Xinhuan | enchants? |
| 04:40.25 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: linen cloth. |
| 04:40.32 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 04:40.33 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
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| 04:40.39 | FtH|Daemona | you are horde and put it on the neutral ah? |
| 04:40.59 | kenlyric | I spent all my time in blood... whatever that instance under org |
| 04:41.08 | Xinhuan | when aq opened, i don't think wowhead existed yet hehe |
| 04:41.08 | kenlyric | no, alliance |
| 04:41.10 | FtH|Daemona | rage fire chasm noob |
| 04:41.13 | Xinhuan | or did it? |
| 04:41.33 | FtH|Daemona | wowhead didnt even exist through naxx did it? |
| 04:41.35 | kenlyric | I knew that! just drawing a blank. |
| 04:41.50 | kenlyric | wowhead existed for a while before it had a database. |
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| 04:43.00 | Xinhuan | not sure when wowhead's database became good |
| 04:43.03 | kenlyric | so I'd keep my hearthstone, my mount, a stack of water or three of water, and not leave until every slot was linen cloth. |
| 04:43.08 | kenlyric | the instant it came out. |
| 04:43.13 | Antiarc | I started using Wowhead for the talent calculator |
| 04:43.17 | Antiarc | Because blizzard's sucked |
| 04:43.25 | Antiarc | s/sucked/sucks/ |
| 04:43.27 | kenlyric | that's all thye had. |
| 04:43.39 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r58393 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua: |
| 04:43.39 | CIA-4 | ClosetGnome: |
| 04:43.39 | CIA-4 | - koKR Typo fix |
| 04:43.40 | FtH|Daemona | Wowhead Closed Betaby Mystadio - 06/01/2006 |
| 04:44.23 | kenlyric | The database is the result of 6 months of hard work, and was released in June 2006 |
| 04:44.47 | kenlyric | then they sold to boylovers. |
| 04:44.52 | kenlyric | or something. I read it on the internet. |
| 04:45.20 | FtH|Daemona | i started using wowhead once its database was semi-usable because it was better sort-searchable and far more responsive than thottbot and not so add overun as allakhazam |
| 04:45.50 | FtH|Daemona | guess a lot of t5 and t6 loot came from my client ;) |
| 04:45.59 | kenlyric | i remember when wowhead's ad server didn't suck ass. |
| 04:46.08 | Gnarfoz | you even were mentioned by name, FtH|Daemona :p |
| 04:46.21 | FtH|Daemona | i remember using noscript works like a charm kenlyric |
| 04:46.35 | FtH|Daemona | do you know the lurker screenshot? with HP and armor and stuff? |
| 04:46.38 | Antiarc | Adblock for the win. |
| 04:46.50 | FtH|Daemona | thats referred all over ej for boss armor values? |
| 04:46.52 | kenlyric | grats on stealing the internet, communists. |
| 04:46.54 | FtH|Daemona | thats me *cough* |
| 04:46.56 | FtH|Daemona | ! |
| 04:47.11 | kenlyric | but yes, adblock ftw :) |
| 04:47.44 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 04:48.15 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.21217#19461 |
| 04:48.17 | FtH|Daemona | ^^ |
| 04:49.07 | Gnarfoz | twink huntard or what |
| 04:49.09 | FtH|Daemona | haha didnt know they tracked this in profile ... |
| 04:49.11 | FtH|Daemona | Data uploads: 695 (17.6 MB) |
| 04:49.12 | FtH|Daemona | yup |
| 04:50.14 | FtH|Daemona | damn we were excited ... fishing for a boss, nihilum was going after hydross and we tried lurker... |
| 04:50.27 | FtH|Daemona | ... no word on the internet lurker existed |
| 04:51.41 | [AR]Camci | [05:48] <FtH|Daemona> http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.21217#19461 |
| 04:51.46 | [AR]Camci | what does it say? |
| 04:52.11 | FtH|Daemona | its basically the beast lore output of The Lurker Below, hp, dmg, armor, tameable |
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| 04:52.42 | FtH|Daemona | in assorted order ^^ |
| 04:52.53 | [AR]Camci | ^^ |
| 04:53.08 | [AR]Camci | is that a mod or what? |
| 04:53.26 | NightHawkTheSane | beast lore? |
| 04:53.35 | NightHawkTheSane | its... a hunter spell |
| 04:53.45 | [AR]Camci | oh beast lore |
| 04:53.50 | [AR]Camci | sorry didnt see |
| 04:54.06 | [AR]Camci | he |
| 04:54.08 | [AR]Camci | heh |
| 04:54.22 | FtH|Daemona | ^^ |
| 04:55.23 | FtH|Daemona | bloodboil with a freaking hope ender because i never saw a spiteblade or talon of azshara |
| 04:56.00 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.koaschten.de/wow/ptr/screenshots/GM_Fazymun.jpg |
| 04:57.55 | FtH|Daemona | noone listening to me anymore? QQ |
| 04:58.02 | FtH|Daemona | good time to get some sleep then ;) |
| 04:58.05 | FtH|Daemona | cu later |
| 04:58.10 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft |
| 04:58.11 | NightHawkTheSane | we voted no. |
| 04:59.00 | FtH|Daemona | as if i ever cared ;) cu in ~6 hours +- a day ;) |
| 04:59.07 | [AR]Camci | ^^ |
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| 05:05.12 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: klassiche ptr-namen xD |
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| 05:05.53 | Fin | OK, someone enlighten me |
| 05:06.04 | Fin | what's the deal with Luminescent Globes |
| 05:06.17 | Fin | is it just that There Is No Cabal? |
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| 05:10.40 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58394 10Cryolysis2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:10.40 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 05:10.40 | CIA-4 | - Added the option to turn off the ritual of refreshment message. |
| 05:10.40 | CIA-4 | - Added the option to choose which chat channel messages are displayed in. |
| 05:10.40 | CIA-4 | - Updated all localizations with the new config options. (untranslated) |
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| 05:40.17 | NivFreak | what was the addon that cleans up minimap addons (someone recommended it to me) |
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| 05:40.56 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7929-MinimapButtonFrame.html |
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| 05:49.56 | Fin | you're welcome |
| 05:50.00 | bigzero | FuBar question, when you select Hide Icon for an addon that uses FuBar, FuBar keeps track of the icons that get hidden and the ones that are shown, correct? |
| 05:50.15 | Fin | as opposed to..? |
| 05:50.23 | Fin | I think that's how it works, bigzero, why do you ask? |
| 05:50.27 | bigzero | the addon having to like hide itself? |
| 05:50.40 | Fin | oh |
| 05:50.41 | Arrowmaster | no fubarplugin does it i think |
| 05:50.53 | bigzero | ah, k. sweet. less work for me |
| 05:51.40 | Arrowmaster | check your saved vars, if its in the addons saved var then fubarplugin is doing it, if its in fubars savedvars then fubar is doing it |
| 05:53.13 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, hmmm fubarplugin savedvars... will check |
| 05:53.41 | bigzero | it's a lib...shouldn't have savedvars |
| 05:53.48 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 05:54.01 | Arrowmaster | thats not what i said |
| 05:54.11 | bigzero | oh, right |
| 05:54.16 | bigzero | doh...lrn2read |
| 05:54.51 | Arrowmaster | ah damn 2007 darwinawards is slashdotted |
| 05:55.09 | bigzero | yeah, i think it's all in FuBar |
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| 05:58.51 | bigzero | anyone know if there's much difference in performace when calling string.match over string.find? |
| 06:02.00 | bigzero | ...lua> local a = os.clock(); for i =1,10000 do string.find("asadasfsfaaaaa","asfs") end; print(os.clock() - a) |
| 06:02.13 | bigzero | that wouldn't print out for every call to find would it? |
| 06:02.18 | bigzero | before i run it.. |
| 06:02.33 | Xinhuan | os.clock() returns to an accuracy of 1 second |
| 06:03.27 | bigzero | rly? someone used it yesterday and they got some decimals in there |
| 06:03.46 | bigzero | lua> os.clock() - os.clock() |
| 06:03.46 | lua_bot | bigzero: 0 |
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| 06:04.53 | bigzero | :-( |
| 06:04.54 | bigzero | oh well |
| 06:06.12 | Gagorian | lua> os.clock() |
| 06:06.12 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 12.44, |
| 06:07.42 | bigzero | umm...that can't be 12 seconds, can it? |
| 06:07.59 | Xinhuan | lua> os.clock() |
| 06:07.59 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 12.48, |
| 06:08.05 | Xinhuan | lua> os.clock() |
| 06:08.05 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 12.48, |
| 06:08.13 | Xinhuan | lua> os.clock() |
| 06:08.13 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 12.49, |
| 06:08.14 | bigzero | doesn't look like it :-/ |
| 06:08.19 | Xinhuan | giggle |
| 06:08.48 | Gagorian | umm, that seems to be rounded or somesuch |
| 06:09.04 | Gagorian | use luac with the same stuff |
| 06:09.05 | bigzero | I bet Xinhuan knows.. |
| 06:09.08 | Gagorian | you'll get ms accuracy |
| 06:09.13 | Xinhuan | just do it in game, silly |
| 06:09.17 | Xinhuan | and use GetTime() |
| 06:09.30 | bigzero | <--- braindead |
| 06:09.47 | bigzero | <-- just finished running 3 full runs of durnholde keep back to back |
| 06:11.03 | bigzero | heh, you really start to respect what tanks ask you to do in dungeons when you start tanking yourself |
| 06:12.41 | Fin | so |
| 06:12.45 | Fin | Luminescent Globes? |
| 06:13.38 | Fin | no? nobody? |
| 06:13.47 | bigzero | Fin, what about them? |
| 06:13.55 | Fin | that's my question |
| 06:14.19 | Fin | have you ever noticed that people put Luminescent Globes up on the AH for silly amounts of money |
| 06:14.42 | Fin | I noticed after I started checking the AH and listing by most recently added |
| 06:14.50 | Fin | all sorts of people seem to do it |
| 06:15.02 | Fin | so I searched for them, maybe they had some other purpose |
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| 06:15.26 | Fin | but, all I found was people - from other servers - asking why they were being listed on the AH for 7g a stack, etc. |
| 06:15.57 | Fin | I figure, it's a big Cabal, and everyone knows There Is No Cabal, basically |
| 06:16.06 | Fin | but, I don't know! which I guess is the point |
| 06:16.12 | Fin | anyway, thought I'd ask |
| 06:17.34 | bigzero | Xinhuan, string.find() seems to be more efficient by about 25%... I got ~5 secs for 10mil string.finds and 6.65 secs for 10mil string.matchx10k |
| 06:17.52 | Xinhuan | what are your test strings/args? |
| 06:17.53 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.02 | bigzero | strings |
| 06:18.08 | bigzero | "aasasaafsdf" |
| 06:18.18 | bigzero | and like "saaf" |
| 06:18.38 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt sound right |
| 06:18.46 | bigzero | i'm too lazy to do more testing |
| 06:18.47 | Arrowmaster | they do exactly the same thing |
| 06:19.07 | Xinhuan | lua> string.find("abcabcabc", "abc") |
| 06:19.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 3, |
| 06:19.07 | Kivin | did you test it in game or on the command line? |
| 06:19.18 | bigzero | Kivin, game |
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| 06:19.22 | bigzero | a couple times |
| 06:19.25 | Kivin | bigzero: You'll get different readings every time |
| 06:19.28 | Paene | yeah |
| 06:19.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah always use cmdline |
| 06:19.38 | Arrowmaster | for doing tests like that |
| 06:19.40 | bigzero | Kivin, i ran a couple times, they were about the same value |
| 06:19.50 | bigzero | like within 0.02 |
| 06:19.52 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("abcabcabc", "abc") |
| 06:19.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: abc, |
| 06:19.53 | Kivin | all it takes is something to change in game and your readings go all bonkers |
| 06:19.56 | Paene | the game environment is affected by all sorts of outside factors |
| 06:20.20 | Kivin | I had 9 or 10 second tests going 2 seconds off each time i tested them, in the scryer inn, the other day |
| 06:20.31 | bigzero | but these were all close |
| 06:20.39 | Kivin | obviously not |
| 06:20.39 | bigzero | within 1% |
| 06:20.49 | Kivin | 5 sec vs 6.6 sec ;p |
| 06:20.50 | bigzero | for the same string.find they were |
| 06:21.04 | bigzero | and for the same string.match they were all within 1% too |
| 06:21.06 | Kivin | lesse what my game has to stay about the two |
| 06:21.38 | Fin | try it with random strings |
| 06:23.35 | Kivin | 100k strfinds of "Hello Jello", "J" 0.792, 0.800, 0.7800. strmatches: 0.816, 0.793, 0.785 |
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| 06:24.03 | Fin | that's not very random |
| 06:24.52 | Kivin | what do you want, then |
| 06:27.01 | Fin | search for a pattern in a string composed of random characters, then randomise the characters, and search again |
| 06:27.13 | Kivin | too much work |
| 06:27.21 | Fin | average the results over a number of searches, and compare string.find and string.match |
| 06:30.07 | Fin | the string isn't going to be the same every time in a real-life situation |
| 06:30.24 | Fin | how do you know there's not some sort of optimisation going on? |
| 06:30.48 | Fin | perl optimises searches like that pretty quickly |
| 06:31.53 | Fin | not sure what Lua's regex engine does under the hood, though, but, that's why I'd use random strings |
| 06:32.03 | Fin | (cos I don't know) |
| 06:32.23 | Arrowmaster | you cant use random strings for a controlled test |
| 06:32.42 | Fin | generate the strings beforehand then |
| 06:32.45 | Arrowmaster | unless you have a list or something of strings so you use the same strings for each test |
| 06:32.56 | Fin | or use a big chunk of existing text, just sequential parts of it |
| 06:33.26 | Fin | which is the same thing, really |
| 06:33.51 | Arrowmaster | and its string.find vs string.match, simple solution just fucking use match unless you need the location of the match then use find |
| 06:34.18 | Fin | no offence, but that's not a solution to finding out if there's a performance difference between the two :) |
| 06:34.29 | Fin | however, you seem agitated |
| 06:34.43 | Xinhuan | uh string.find has a 4th argument to specify it to not use regexes |
| 06:34.43 | Fin | perhaps it's best if I just agreed with you |
| 06:34.55 | Xinhuan | string.find(arg, find, 1, true) |
| 06:35.05 | Xinhuan | if the 4th arg is true, then searching speed is much faster |
| 06:35.17 | Xinhuan | it treats the findtext as plaintext |
| 06:35.19 | Fin | that would make sense |
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| 06:40.38 | buu | Oh god. |
| 06:41.24 | Nerox | Anyone here know if you can stack the buff / debuff and trench bars for the ElkBuffBar mod so they all grow up together? |
| 06:43.10 | ulic | Nerox: if you move them so close that they 'snap' to each other, then yes I believe they should |
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| 06:43.35 | ulic | I have some I use for target & focus that grow and and they grow up auto-magically |
| 06:45.26 | Nerox | Hmm |
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| 06:45.34 | Nerox | I'll try that. Is their anything I need to do with the group spacing? |
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| 06:51.21 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.44 | bigzero | but not for Kivin...so idk |
| 06:52.06 | bigzero | anyway, i'm off to bed |
| 07:00.10 | Kivin | Sigh, some knob killed all the trainers in orgrimmar |
| 07:03.55 | Fin | they respawn really quickly |
| 07:04.05 | Fin | but hey, that was still retarded |
| 07:04.11 | Kivin | They just did it a second time |
| 07:04.18 | Kivin | and ganked me, because i was fresh out of a BG |
| 07:04.39 | Fin | some people were doing that to the Auctioneers the other day, it was so dumb |
| 07:04.47 | Kivin | Very juvenile |
| 07:04.55 | Fin | at like 2am as well |
| 07:05.11 | Fin | I mean... OK... you're being juvenile, but there's not even anyone watching |
| 07:05.29 | Kivin | Every single day, they come to XR and wipe out all the non combat NPCs |
| 07:05.32 | vithos | he didn't want your Auctioneer scan to finish. it was market warfare. |
| 07:05.46 | Kivin | Shadowmeld out for 10 minutes, then kill the NPCs again |
| 07:05.50 | Fin | market warfare... of the most retarded kind |
| 07:05.58 | Fin | maybe that's what the Luminescent Globes are for |
| 07:06.02 | Fin | that's my other suspicion |
| 07:06.07 | Fin | it's just there to fuck with stats |
| 07:06.31 | Fin | I'm not convincing myself however, but, I don't have much else |
| 07:07.09 | Kivin | Sigh |
| 07:07.24 | Kivin | Every time i see this hunter wearing a crystaline kopesh and a blinkstrike, part of me dies inside |
| 07:07.40 | Fin | is it a soft and happy part |
| 07:07.43 | Fin | I bet it is |
| 07:17.47 | Antiarc | Blinkstrike is leet Wing Clip DPS |
| 07:18.27 | Kivin | lol |
| 07:18.53 | Kivin | The worst part is he outrolled his guild leader, a rogue, on it, and equipped it right in front of him |
| 07:18.59 | aestil | someone make it so that autobar doesn't break my eepanels scripts! |
| 07:19.05 | Kivin | And has since been flashing it around the server |
| 07:19.09 | Kivin | flaunting it |
| 07:21.59 | Antiarc | Kivin: Smells like /gkick to me. |
| 07:22.08 | Kivin | Antiarc: Not in my guild |
| 07:22.18 | Antiarc | Not that Blinkstrike is a really good rogue mainhand either |
| 07:22.26 | Antiarc | I mean, it's okay, but there is far better. |
| 07:22.30 | Antiarc | It's no Krol Blade. |
| 07:22.35 | Kivin | No excuse for a hunter to roll and equip |
| 07:23.08 | Antiarc | No, of course not |
| 07:23.09 | aestil | Antiarc: did i ask you if you killed illidian yet? |
| 07:23.18 | Antiarc | aestil: You did, and I didn't respond because I was going AFK >_> |
| 07:23.22 | Antiarc | No, we're working on RoS right now |
| 07:23.29 | aestil | ok. we are working on gurtogg |
| 07:23.36 | Antiarc | Less mages, more healers! |
| 07:23.43 | Antiarc | Seriously. Fewer mages = easier kills. |
| 07:23.45 | Antiarc | Not being sarcastic. |
| 07:24.02 | aestil | yeah, it'll be fine, we had a better than 50% attempt on our 4th pull on our first night ever, with 1 fewer healer than we needed. |
| 07:24.09 | Xinhuan | killed ros with 4 mages yesterday. |
| 07:24.13 | Xinhuan | wasn't an issue |
| 07:24.21 | Xinhuan | same for gurtogg |
| 07:24.21 | aestil | i don't understand RoS right now. |
| 07:24.22 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Gurtogg, not RoS :P |
| 07:24.30 | Xinhuan | 4 mages is GOOD in fact |
| 07:24.40 | Antiarc | Mages are good for RoS |
| 07:24.44 | Antiarc | Not so much for Gurtogg |
| 07:24.50 | Xinhuan | if one or two ppl die, they can standin and just eat an extra stack of bloodboil, and iceblock it off |
| 07:24.55 | Xinhuan | its free lvl 30 spell now |
| 07:25.20 | Xinhuan | any mage that dies if they are tanking just means they didn't cast ice armor |
| 07:25.23 | Antiarc | And then one gets fel raged and Gurtogg's all "lulz, one-shotted" |
| 07:25.58 | Antiarc | Our easiest Gurtogg kills are by far the ones that mages don't get fel rage in |
| 07:25.58 | Antiarc | They always feel so smooth, except when mages are raged |
| 07:26.06 | Xinhuan | basically, if you have a priest that has pain surpression - he should save it for a mage or another priest |
| 07:26.17 | Antiarc | Hm. We don't have any disc priests. |
| 07:26.31 | Antiarc | We run one Imp DS priest + 1 CoH priest for Gurtogg |
| 07:26.44 | Antiarc | CoH for Bloodboil is freaking amazing |
| 07:26.52 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 07:26.55 | Xinhuan | so is chain heal |
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| 07:32.15 | Antiarc | Chris -- Regardless of how the rest of your day goes, here's something to be happy about -- today a honey pot you installed successfully identified a previously unknown email harvester (IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). The harvester was caught by your honey pot installed at: wow.tachyonsix.com |
| 07:32.16 | Antiarc | \o/ |
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| 07:38.30 | aestil | can someone tell me why auotbar does this? |
| 07:38.32 | aestil | Before - http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/before.png |
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| 07:38.44 | aestil | After - http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/after2.png |
| 07:38.52 | exor674 | aestil: because it hates you |
| 07:38.54 | aestil | only chane is that autobar is installed. |
| 07:39.02 | aestil | enabled rather |
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| 07:39.23 | Antiarc | Screenshots from WotLK - druids are getting mail! |
| 07:39.29 | Antiarc | http://jeffdeboer.com/Galleries/CatsandMice/tabid/77/moduleid/433/viewkey/photo/photoid/120/Default.aspx |
| 07:39.46 | Kivin | *chuckle* |
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| 07:48.04 | Fin | aestil: what exactly is autobar doing? |
| 07:48.25 | aestil | if you look in the two pictures, its supposed to look like the first one. |
| 07:48.27 | Osstia|mac | looked like a lot of textures went black when he enabled it |
| 07:48.27 | Orionshock | eh? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10839.0;topicseen |
| 07:48.55 | Fin | what is autobar anchored to? |
| 07:49.00 | aestil | in the second one, the scripts sizing various eepanels just stop working, and others are on the wrong strata. |
| 07:49.09 | aestil | autobar is not anchored to anything? |
| 07:49.16 | aestil | i dunno, its just however it is. |
| 07:49.43 | Fin | what is it set to in the "docked to" option? |
| 07:50.50 | aestil | 'none' |
| 07:51.05 | Fin | have you got DevTools installed? |
| 07:51.13 | aestil | dev tools? |
| 07:51.16 | aestil | i just used WAU |
| 07:51.21 | aestil | and d/l'd it. |
| 07:51.24 | Fin | ~devtools |
| 07:51.25 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 07:51.39 | Fin | it might help you figure out what's happening |
| 07:52.05 | Fin | one of the features is a framestack viewer, it'll show you what frames are under the cursor |
| 07:52.28 | aestil | how will that help me? |
| 07:52.32 | Fin | well |
| 07:52.52 | Fin | my guess is that autobar is affecting something because a frame is inheriting some of its settings |
| 07:52.54 | aestil | what does what autobar being docked to 'none' have to do with it breaking my eepanels scripts, or makign the panels move to the wrong strata. |
| 07:53.19 | Fin | nothing, but if it was set to something other than "none" then that might've been related |
| 07:53.24 | aestil | it messes up a panel anchored to a pitbull frame |
| 07:53.42 | Fin | I can stop trying to help if you like |
| 07:54.08 | Fin | I don't know what the problem is, just trying to find out more about what's going on |
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| 07:55.59 | aestil | oh, no i'm getting the thing you asked me to. |
| 07:56.12 | aestil | i'm trying to understand what you're asking for. |
| 07:56.29 | aestil | i can pastey the script thats breaking if you think that might help. |
| 07:56.41 | Fin | OK |
| 07:57.19 | Fin | which minimap mod are you using, btw? |
| 07:58.17 | Ellipsis | oh aestil, what did you break this time? |
| 07:59.06 | aestil | simpleminimap |
| 07:59.13 | aestil | autobar breaks stuff that works otherwise. |
| 07:59.42 | aestil | http://ace.pastey.net/80618 |
| 08:00.03 | aestil | i also have the dev tools running. |
| 08:00.15 | aestil | maybe i can figure out why the grid eepanels randomly disobey their script. |
| 08:01.03 | Fin | aestil, go into the key bindings and set it up so you can show the frame stack |
| 08:02.06 | Fin | hm |
| 08:02.15 | Fin | maybe... try disabling the pet buttons in autobar? |
| 08:02.31 | Fin | don't really see why that would do anything, but... |
| 08:03.10 | Fin | and, that script you pasted, if you remove that the problem doesn't occur? |
| 08:04.34 | aestil | the only things i have enabled in autobar are tracking and aspects. |
| 08:04.59 | aestil | fin, if i take the script out... then it won't work. |
| 08:05.03 | aestil | the thing thats not working is that script. |
| 08:05.26 | Fin | oh |
| 08:05.28 | aestil | thats the script thats not resizing. if you look at the 2 pictures i linked above, you can see that the panel resizes in the first picture, and with autobar enabled it doesn't. |
| 08:06.04 | Fin | I see |
| 08:06.16 | aestil | ok, what should i mouse over? the pet unit frame, or the player unit frame? |
| 08:06.43 | Fin | the autobar frame |
| 08:06.58 | aestil | medium |
| 08:07.08 | aestil | <1> autobarclassbarbasicdriver |
| 08:07.12 | aestil | <0> uiparent |
| 08:07.14 | aestil | low |
| 08:07.18 | aestil | <2> |
| 08:07.27 | aestil | autobarbutonaura frame |
| 08:07.29 | aestil | unknown |
| 08:07.33 | aestil | <0> world frame |
| 08:07.33 | Fin | probably best to use pastey :) |
| 08:07.44 | aestil | how can i pastey? |
| 08:07.58 | aestil | oh, type into pastey. |
| 08:08.00 | Fin | can you see anything that looks like it's connected to the pet frames? |
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| 08:10.00 | aestil | no. |
| 08:10.14 | aestil | and, the panels aren't loading in the order they are supposed to. |
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| 08:11.35 | aestil | the minimap pannels go <2> table, eepanel25, SMM, minimapbackdrop, <1>eepanel26, minimap, <0> eepanel 27 |
| 08:13.16 | Fin | this is with the black minimap, right? |
| 08:13.49 | Fin | did you try disabling autobar's pet buttons, btw? (and reloading your UI, I think would be necessary) |
| 08:14.52 | aestil | the only buttons autobar is using is tracking/aspects |
| 08:15.31 | Fin | uhmmm, OK, there's a setting where you can get autobar to feed your pet if you right click a button |
| 08:15.35 | Fin | is that enabled? |
| 08:15.51 | aestil | i don't think so. i can check. |
| 08:15.54 | aestil | quick question. |
| 08:16.01 | aestil | i was gonna try to make eepanels load last. |
| 08:16.12 | Fin | sorry this isn't really getting anywhere btw |
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| 08:16.18 | aestil | by naming the folder and .toc xxeepanels |
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| 08:16.27 | Fin | worth a try |
| 08:16.27 | aestil | do i need to rename the wtf file as well? |
| 08:16.33 | Fin | it probably loads after autobar anyway, though |
| 08:16.38 | Ellipsis | if you want your panels, yeah |
| 08:16.50 | aestil | you know i want my panels :) |
| 08:16.52 | Ellipsis | you could just put an OptDep in eepanels' toc for autobar to load first... |
| 08:16.59 | Ellipsis | that would be the easier way and more sure to work :P |
| 08:17.05 | Fin | what Elli sid |
| 08:17.07 | Fin | +a |
| 08:17.16 | Fin | +and is about to explain in further detail |
| 08:17.26 | Ellipsis | way to volunteer me |
| 08:17.27 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 08:17.38 | Fin | :) |
| 08:18.07 | aestil | i know how to do that. |
| 08:18.10 | aestil | restarting game |
| 08:18.16 | Ellipsis | as I expected :) |
| 08:18.42 | Ellipsis | aestil, are you sure you don't have any other scripts lying around doing things to that panel? |
| 08:18.56 | aestil | that panel? yes. |
| 08:19.06 | aestil | i have lots of other scripts running on lots of other panels. |
| 08:19.08 | Fin | there's one bit in AutoBarButton.lua that does: |
| 08:19.09 | Fin | frame:SetAttribute("unit2", "pet") |
| 08:19.14 | Fin | frame:SetAttribute("*unit2", "pet") |
| 08:19.46 | Fin | probably not the cause - if only because I'm guessing - but but |
| 08:19.58 | Fin | wild stabs in the dark are my favourite |
| 08:19.59 | Ellipsis | aestil: and you're suuuuuure none of them got the wrong panel number in them by mistake? |
| 08:20.50 | aestil | and it always works on every other character, and even this one, all the time, except when i enable autobar? |
| 08:20.57 | Fin | do the panel numbers change when autobar is enabled? |
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| 08:21.46 | Ellipsis | hrm |
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| 08:21.50 | aestil | they don't appear to. |
| 08:21.55 | aestil | 16/17/18 |
| 08:22.21 | Ellipsis | can I see the screenshot of the problem? |
| 08:22.28 | Ellipsis | I missed it when I joined |
| 08:22.38 | Fin | is there some way you can test this? actually DevTool's frame stack viewer will show you I guess |
| 08:23.42 | Fin | [08:38:37] <aestil> Before - http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/before.png |
| 08:23.42 | Fin | [08:38:49] <aestil> After - http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/after2.png |
| 08:23.47 | Ellipsis | ty |
| 08:24.44 | Orionshock | ? |
| 08:24.46 | Orionshock | Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1452: attempt to call global 'SetUIPanel' (a nil value): |
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| 08:25.17 | Ellipsis` | hmmm |
| 08:25.25 | Ellipsis` | maybe I should not try to load images that big on other people's wireless networks |
| 08:25.45 | Fin | nonsense! |
| 08:25.58 | aestil | well, ima go to bed. maybe something will strike you guys later. sadly, i can't use autobar right now on my hunter, and i'm in love with the mod. |
| 08:26.02 | Fin | the image wants to be loaded |
| 08:26.10 | Fin | sorry aestil |
| 08:26.23 | Ellipsis` | aestil: I'll debug with you tomorrow if you like, once I have a connection again |
| 08:26.49 | aestil | no, thank you so much for even trying. |
| 08:27.35 | aestil | aside from autobar, only on this hunter, the eepnales for the minimap always load out of order. |
| 08:27.49 | Ellipsis` | I have a hunch |
| 08:27.51 | aestil | i need to opt dep SMM into eepanels, or eepanels into SMM? |
| 08:28.15 | Kivin | eepanels delays things until dependency frames are available, IIRC |
| 08:28.40 | aestil | i may sound like i know what i'm talking about, but i can't get an answer from that response :) |
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| 08:28.54 | Kivin | you shouldn't need to set optdeps at all |
| 08:29.14 | Kivin | if eepanels can't find a frame that it needs for anchoring/parenting, it waits for the frame to get created, if i'm not mistaken |
| 08:29.43 | Kivin | if (frame doesn't exist) try again later() |
| 08:30.02 | Kivin | i don't know if that'd cause panels to load out of order or not |
| 08:30.07 | aestil | hmm. but the panels are all number, so it would need to create the panel and not show it, otherwise the panel number will all be borked. |
| 08:30.33 | Kivin | Im not sure if it creates the panel then defers the parenting/anchoring, or if it defers the entire panel creation |
| 08:30.44 | Kivin | if it's the latter, that would zap your panel order, to be certain |
| 08:31.39 | Kivin | unfortunately, I don't know much about it because I always give my panels literal positions against UIParent |
| 08:31.54 | aestil | well, opt dep SMM into eepanels fixed that one issue. |
| 08:32.07 | aestil | thats a miricale. |
| 08:32.09 | Kivin | ahh, so it must screw up the panel order |
| 08:32.17 | Kivin | that's curious and good to know |
| 08:32.29 | aestil | perhaps, i should opt dep eepanels into autobar? would that make autobar load last? |
| 08:32.38 | aestil | or at least, AFTER eepanels are set up? |
| 08:32.47 | Kivin | correct |
| 08:33.04 | Kivin | Do any of your panels need autobar for anchoring/parenting? |
| 08:33.55 | Recluse | is omen svn'd at some non-ace place? i'm stuck with this 'new version available' message, but i have the newest version lol |
| 08:34.06 | Kivin | it's on the trunk |
| 08:34.23 | Kivin | make sure you update threat-1.0 if it's not embeded |
| 08:34.32 | Kivin | that can cause new version dialogs as well |
| 08:34.41 | Fin | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9101/ |
| 08:34.43 | Recluse | ah! i did update threat just now, that could be it |
| 08:35.00 | Fin | oh, wait, sorry |
| 08:35.01 | aestil | haha. well, that didn't work. and no, no panel uses autobar to parent/anchor. i'll work on this more later. |
| 08:35.03 | Fin | I misread your question |
| 08:35.58 | Fin | you know, you keep using the term bonks and I cannot be responsible for my actions |
| 08:36.01 | aestil | g'nite, and hopefull we can work on tommorow afternoon? |
| 08:36.04 | Kivin | Anyone know if using Kill Command causes the global cooldown to be thrown? |
| 08:36.21 | Ellipsis` | Fin: well I can't help it, you look like a gnome from here! |
| 08:36.45 | Fin | http://urbandictionary.com/bonk |
| 08:37.08 | Ellipsis` | hey, I never said looking like a gnome was a bad thing |
| 08:38.17 | Kivin | fucking mobs in Kirin'var that my pet can't path to |
| 08:38.39 | Kivin | causes him to go into entropy |
| 08:38.58 | Ellipsis` | kirin'var is evil for pets |
| 08:39.06 | Kivin | making me such a very sad panda |
| 08:39.06 | Ellipsis` | they get stuck on every little bit of ruined building out there |
| 08:40.05 | Kivin | nice, no GCD on kill command |
| 08:45.11 | Fin | Ellipsis`: you're a lock, right? |
| 08:46.45 | Ellipsis` | did the evil laugh give it away? |
| 08:46.58 | Fin | no |
| 08:47.04 | Ellipsis` | or was it my tendency to roll my face across the keyboard? |
| 08:47.26 | Fin | I think it was you telling me you were a lock |
| 08:47.37 | Ellipsis` | oh, that would likely do it as well |
| 08:47.38 | Fin | but don't stop rolling your face across the keyboard, that's fun |
| 08:47.45 | Fin | I have questions! |
| 08:47.52 | Ellipsis` | I have answers |
| 08:48.02 | Ellipsis` | (they just may or may not be correct, depending on how much I know about the subject) |
| 08:48.02 | Arrowmaster | another reason javascript is evil http://procool.ru/interesting/funny_kitten.htm |
| 08:48.18 | Fin | I've just come into 5 shiny new purple bits of gear, with sockets of all shapes and sizes |
| 08:48.23 | Fin | and colours |
| 08:48.42 | Ellipsis` | mmm...candy |
| 08:48.44 | Fin | what's the stock lock gems? |
| 08:48.52 | Ellipsis` | veiled noble topaz until hit capped |
| 08:49.03 | Fin | is that a PvP type gem? |
| 08:49.05 | [Ammo] | Runed Spinel :p |
| 08:49.12 | Ellipsis` | er...no |
| 08:49.16 | Fin | what's Runed Spinel? |
| 08:49.23 | Ellipsis` | I don't PvP, so I don't know what they use :P |
| 08:49.24 | [Ammo] | the epix gem from MH/BT :) |
| 08:49.28 | [Ammo] | 12 spelldamag |
| 08:49.29 | Ellipsis` | runed spinel will be epic +dmg |
| 08:49.41 | Fin | oh, good, and, mebbe later Ammo :P |
| 08:49.50 | Arrowmaster | one of the things that never drops for my raid |
| 08:49.50 | Ellipsis` | veiled is +hit/+dmg |
| 08:50.01 | Fin | I don't want +sta? |
| 08:50.02 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: it never drops period |
| 08:50.07 | [Ammo] | drops less than anything |
| 08:50.09 | Arrowmaster | got a ton of those seaspray craps though |
| 08:50.11 | [Ammo] | for pvp get stamina fin |
| 08:50.12 | Orionshock | there a wow API that forces the UnitFrames to refresh? or is that a per-addon idea? |
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| 08:50.23 | Ellipsis` | Fin: if you have blue sockets, put glowing nightseye in (+dmg/sta) if the socket bonus is worth getting |
| 08:50.23 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: so we put a hold on giving them on a whi |
| 08:50.24 | [Ammo] | whim |
| 08:51.38 | Ellipsis` | also, if you're destruction or otherwise interested in crit, there's orange gems with dmg/crit (don't know the name off the top of my head though) |
| 08:52.04 | [Ammo] | potent noble topaz |
| 08:52.15 | [Ammo] | or potent pyrestone (epic) |
| 08:52.30 | Fin | woo |
| 08:52.38 | Fin | just discovered the earth -> life transmute |
| 08:52.49 | Ellipsis` | grats |
| 08:52.52 | Fin | thanks |
| 08:52.56 | Arrowmaster | why the hell am i so tired at 4am...... meh im going to bed |
| 08:53.10 | Fin | I'm not transmute specced, I did always wonder if you could discover stuff while not specced in that discipline |
| 08:53.19 | mort | earth -> water = nice profit :) |
| 08:53.35 | Fin | glowing nightseye, veiled noble topaz |
| 08:53.42 | Fin | that's what I discovered it from, mort |
| 08:53.47 | Fin | thanks! |
| 08:53.58 | mort | ah :) |
| 08:54.24 | mort | i only discovered this useless fire -> mana transmute |
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| 08:57.05 | bigzero | lol, so if you have a Unique item in your inventory, you can't buy another one on ah |
| 08:57.34 | Ellipsis` | put it in the mail |
| 08:57.34 | Ellipsis` | :P |
| 08:57.36 | Recluse | sell unique item to vendor. buy from AH, mail off, buy back from vendor /nod |
| 08:59.01 | bigzero | Ellipsis, that's what i did, but it's annoying |
| 08:59.17 | Xinhuan | what did you try to buy? |
| 08:59.27 | bigzero | buying librams |
| 08:59.31 | Ellipsis` | ahahaha |
| 08:59.36 | Ellipsis` | Xinhuan knows all about that |
| 08:59.40 | Xinhuan | i just throw them into the gbank |
| 08:59.42 | bigzero | yup, lol |
| 08:59.50 | Xinhuan | to a tab that only i can withdraw :D |
| 09:00.01 | Fin | you can put multiple unique items in the guild bank? |
| 09:00.02 | bigzero | <--- not a gm |
| 09:00.06 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 09:00.11 | Fin | oh, wow |
| 09:00.14 | Fin | now that I did not know |
| 09:00.22 | bigzero | makes sense though |
| 09:00.35 | Fin | I think you should be able to put conjured items in the guild bank |
| 09:01.12 | bigzero | then mages would never get to raid lol |
| 09:01.36 | Fin | hah |
| 09:01.59 | Ellipsis` | who needs mages anyway |
| 09:02.05 | Ellipsis` | locks do better damage /flex |
| 09:02.09 | Kivin | [Table of Refreshment] "Use: Summon 50 stacks of Manna Biscuits and deal critical damage to your raid career." |
| 09:02.20 | Fin | woo, last bit of frozen shadoweave done! that's nice, I've been fiddling around with preparing to do all that shit for ages now while levelling |
| 09:02.47 | Kivin | 3.7k/5k epic flight *sigh* |
| 09:02.48 | Ellipsis` | grats Fin, feels good doesn't it? :) |
| 09:02.52 | Fin | now I've got a nice shiny new frozen shadoweave set, the battlecast set, and the required 375 tailoring |
| 09:02.52 | Kivin | the closer i get, the harder it gets |
| 09:03.05 | Fin | goodbye skinning :) |
| 09:04.00 | Fin | and I tell you what, having a guild bank to use made doing the 0 - 375 tailoring thing *so* much easier this time |
| 09:04.56 | Fin | and booya! |
| 09:05.02 | bigzero | Kivin, I feel your pain..my druid needs epic flight form, but I'm too lazy to farm gold |
| 09:05.03 | Fin | 937g in sold auctions, woof! |
| 09:05.21 | mort | epic flight form is worth it |
| 09:05.31 | mort | so much butter than an epic mount :) |
| 09:05.53 | Fin | +certainly does, Elli! |
| 09:06.26 | bigzero | mort, i was actually close, but then i bought badge of tenacity and like 15 gems for my druid |
| 09:06.36 | mort | :/ |
| 09:06.39 | bigzero | now he needs the furies deck too |
| 09:06.42 | Kivin | >_> |
| 09:06.46 | Kivin | I've not spent a penny |
| 09:06.49 | Fin | oh, yeh and also I got the Lunacy deck yesterday :) |
| 09:06.57 | Fin | which is absolutely brilliant |
| 09:06.57 | Kivin | Even my kara raid char is in yellow damaged armor |
| 09:07.10 | mort | i need that badge too, for my offequip ;) |
| 09:07.23 | Fin | Ellipsis: is that the stacking one? |
| 09:07.26 | Kivin | Started my hunter with six stacks of 55 food and six stacks of 65 food, a big cache of ammo, and set off to get epic flight |
| 09:07.28 | Ellipsis | yup Fin |
| 09:07.29 | bigzero | Kivin, lol, you're cheap |
| 09:07.31 | Ellipsis | and it stacks soooooo nice |
| 09:07.33 | Fin | nice |
| 09:07.39 | Fin | shame it doesn't have the stamina on it |
| 09:07.42 | Kivin | bigzero: no, I'm smart. If I spend money, i'll never get my mount |
| 09:07.55 | Ellipsis | protip: spamming rank 1 curse of weakness on a critter before a pull = free spell damage |
| 09:07.55 | Fin | still, I want one |
| 09:08.21 | Kivin | actually, that's a lie, i spent money on my alliance alt for a wayward footman shield that popped up on the AH |
| 09:08.28 | Fin | Kivin: that's sooort of what I've done |
| 09:08.28 | bigzero | Kivin, if you waste money you won't, but i mean come on...repairing doesn't even cost that much |
| 09:08.34 | Kivin | yes it does |
| 09:09.06 | bigzero | 10 - 20g is not a lot (considering it's your armor) |
| 09:09.09 | Fin | I actually managed to stop myself visiting the AH every level and buying stuff that only upgrades my gear by a tiny amount |
| 09:10.00 | Fin | 2 gathering professions while levelling, now I'm going to get enchanting so I can disenchant all the quest rewards |
| 09:10.11 | bigzero | lol |
| 09:10.13 | bigzero | nice |
| 09:10.19 | Fin | plus I tried really hard to keep as many quests free as possible |
| 09:10.38 | Fin | so I have most of BEM, and all of Netherstorm and Shadowmoon to go |
| 09:10.47 | bigzero | i need to start doing dailies again, i've been slacking |
| 09:11.02 | Fin | apparently without enchanting, they're worth about 3k? |
| 09:11.38 | bigzero | wow...how many items is that? |
| 09:12.14 | Ellipsis | Fin: I ran the numbers on that at one point, seemed it was just barely worth the price of leveling enchanting to be able to DE the rewards |
| 09:12.17 | Fin | well, that's with quest reward money as well |
| 09:12.25 | Ellipsis | but it takes so much longer that I decided against it |
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| 09:12.39 | CIA-4 | AlarLib |
| 09:12.39 | CIA-4 | Added low profile item cache |
| 09:12.43 | bigzero | Ellipsis, but enchanting is nice to keep |
| 09:12.46 | Fin | Ellipsis: I want an enchanting character as well anyway, I'm fed up of logging on friends' accounts so I can disenchant 100s of greens at once |
| 09:12.58 | Ellipsis | well, I guess |
| 09:13.12 | Kivin | I wish enchanting would get some blizzard love in the future |
| 09:13.19 | mort | enchanting is always nice to have, ring enchants, de everything in instances/while farming etc. |
| 09:13.23 | Ellipsis | my main already enchants, so I suppose that's part of why an alt enchanter wasn't so appealing to me |
| 09:13.37 | mort | all my chars are enchanters |
| 09:13.56 | Recluse | my druid's ench/alch while my rogue is herb/mine - works out great |
| 09:14.01 | bigzero | and I don't make like any real money off of my professions :-( |
| 09:14.08 | Fin | my main's tailoring + alchemy |
| 09:14.12 | Kivin | I'd like to see some mechanic that gives it more commerical profit. Perhaps a mastery branch that procs partial materials back, or something |
| 09:14.25 | Kivin | On my server, enchanters don't make squat |
| 09:14.32 | Fin | balls |
| 09:14.35 | bigzero | Recluse, lol...i have the same exact combo with my mage and druid |
| 09:14.37 | Fin | they can make cockloads from disenchanting stuff |
| 09:14.42 | mort | selling enchants on the ah would rock |
| 09:14.58 | Fin | if I had a large prismatic shard instead of every blue I had to vendor, I'd be much richer |
| 09:15.08 | Recluse | bigzero: lol - i am never in need of money <3 |
| 09:15.12 | Ellipsis | on some servers the shards aren't much more valuable |
| 09:15.29 | Fin | there's more enchanters on those servers then I would guess :P |
| 09:15.34 | mort | i can make a small amount of money with buying cheap greens off the ah for disenchanting and i'm lucky to have the sunfire enchant |
| 09:16.09 | bigzero | Recluse, but i'm being lazy...i stopped gathering when my druid got to 70. maybe once i get epic flight i'll start again |
| 09:16.20 | Kivin | I was such an idiot pre-tbc. I bought Crusader for like 600G. I've enchanted it twice. Both post-tbc. |
| 09:16.37 | Kivin | I got a 10G tip once and a 2G tip the second |
| 09:16.42 | bigzero | Kivin, it's so easy to farm |
| 09:16.51 | Fin | easy but BORING AS FUCK |
| 09:16.53 | Kivin | farm what? |
| 09:16.54 | Ellipsis | Fin: more enchanters and just a worse economy in general |
| 09:16.59 | bigzero | crusader |
| 09:17.03 | Recluse | bigzero: well, with a herb/mine, you can just spend 30-60 mins a day and make 200-400g to add to your stocks XD |
| 09:17.05 | Fin | Ellipsis: that's what I meant |
| 09:17.10 | Kivin | why would i want to farm it |
| 09:17.21 | Ellipsis | on my server you can buy netherweave for less than vendor...so... |
| 09:17.26 | bigzero | well, it's either that or 600g |
| 09:17.29 | Ellipsis | I find selling mats is not terribly profitable |
| 09:17.33 | Kivin | oh, the pattern, you mean |
| 09:17.43 | bigzero | yeah |
| 09:17.44 | Kivin | i farmed it for over 40 hours and never got the drop |
| 09:18.05 | Kivin | Lady friend and I practically lived in that dratted tower |
| 09:18.10 | bigzero | i guess i must be lucky with farming |
| 09:19.17 | Ellipsis | that one is a pain |
| 09:19.30 | bigzero | then i ran a heroic durnholde and it dropped right away |
| 09:19.36 | bigzero | i was pissed |
| 09:19.39 | Ellipsis | you know what I want? |
| 09:19.43 | Ellipsis | freaking savagery |
| 09:19.57 | Kivin | I've seen savagery drop once and i was out rolled |
| 09:19.57 | bigzero | now you're talking about pain |
| 09:20.13 | Kivin | After the crusader thing, it didn't really bother me, though |
| 09:20.20 | Kivin | oh well, i lost out on some 2g tips |
| 09:20.21 | bigzero | Ellipsis, it's farmable though if you get a group that's willing to do it |
| 09:20.31 | bigzero | like in one run |
| 09:21.04 | Ellipsis | yeah, it is |
| 09:21.08 | Ellipsis | but that's a big if |
| 09:21.19 | Ellipsis | it's easy enough to farm durn since you can do it easily with 2-3 people |
| 09:21.19 | bigzero | the group part? |
| 09:21.23 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 09:21.31 | bigzero | i guess |
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| 09:21.43 | bigzero | i did get it on a normal run |
| 09:21.44 | cncfanatics | g'morning people |
| 09:22.01 | Ellipsis | mornin cnc |
| 09:22.04 | bigzero | but I actually had a group trying to farm it once |
| 09:22.21 | cncfanatics | farm what ? bigzero |
| 09:23.08 | bigzero | now all i'm missing is sunfire, soulfrost, surefooted and executioner and i'll have them all |
| 09:23.14 | bigzero | cncfanatics, savagery |
| 09:23.28 | bigzero | too bad i stopped raiding |
| 09:23.37 | cncfanatics | savagery is farmable |
| 09:23.42 | cncfanatics | farmed it twice before for people |
| 09:23.42 | bigzero | yup |
| 09:23.54 | cncfanatics | could do 25 minute SH with my palatank |
| 09:24.09 | cncfanatics | took them a day of partying with me, and a good bunch of cash to get it :p |
| 09:24.12 | Ellipsis | I still need dexterity pattern too, ugh |
| 09:24.41 | Ellipsis | and of course all the kara+ ones x.x |
| 09:24.46 | bigzero | well, you only need to clear it up to the gladiators once and then you just keep resetting the groups |
| 09:24.55 | cncfanatics | why not get free shards ? |
| 09:24.57 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 09:25.10 | cncfanatics | might as well spend 5 more mins to get to last boss & get a shard from him |
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| 09:25.18 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 09:25.18 | cncfanatics | and well, the shards were a part of their payment :) |
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| 09:25.33 | Ellipsis | it's faster to just do that pack over and over than reset the entire instance |
| 09:25.36 | bigzero | Ellipsis, just keep doing heroics...i think they drop much more often there |
| 09:25.42 | Ellipsis | maybe, bigzero |
| 09:25.52 | Ellipsis | I got my +12sta to boots in a heroic MT |
| 09:26.04 | Ellipsis | which was a nice surprise since I was only doing it for the daily :P |
| 09:26.09 | bigzero | oh, my god...that one took me sooo long |
| 09:26.22 | cncfanatics | enchanters :p |
| 09:26.26 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 09:26.27 | cncfanatics | I wish JC patterns were like encha ones |
| 09:26.30 | cncfanatics | they're all fucking BoE |
| 09:26.35 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with that? |
| 09:26.40 | Ellipsis | it means if you can't farm them, you can buy them! |
| 09:26.42 | cncfanatics | that they're impossible to farm ? |
| 09:26.45 | Ellipsis | more options = more happy |
| 09:26.52 | cncfanatics | there's not more options |
| 09:26.55 | cncfanatics | they're all world drops |
| 09:26.57 | cncfanatics | its just buy them or die |
| 09:26.58 | Ellipsis | they are? |
| 09:27.00 | Ellipsis | ahahaha that sucks |
| 09:27.06 | bigzero | Ellipsis, i like having hard to get enchants though |
| 09:27.18 | Ellipsis | you know which one is proving to be the HARDEST for me to get? |
| 09:27.24 | bigzero | which? |
| 09:27.24 | Ellipsis | freaking +6 stats to chest. |
| 09:27.32 | Ellipsis | WTB HH rep, PST |
| 09:27.45 | bigzero | what?? |
| 09:27.50 | cncfanatics | ain't +9 to stats a rep enchant ? |
| 09:27.53 | cncfanatics | +6* |
| 09:27.53 | Ellipsis | all the others I'm at least making progress towards |
| 09:27.55 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 09:27.59 | Kivin | i'm gonna need to get my thrallmar rep up for faction ammo. blargh. |
| 09:28.00 | cncfanatics | why is it hard then ? |
| 09:28.04 | Ellipsis | because nobody does HH instances |
| 09:28.05 | bigzero | SH??? |
| 09:28.06 | Ellipsis | like, ever |
| 09:28.09 | cncfanatics | I have to get exalted consortium for one I want -.- now THATS a pain |
| 09:28.18 | bigzero | you need it for savagery |
| 09:28.20 | Ellipsis | on my server, lfg for SH and any of the heroic HH instances is always empty |
| 09:28.25 | Ellipsis | I'm still not even revered |
| 09:28.35 | cncfanatics | you can get rep with dialies though |
| 09:28.36 | Ellipsis | because everyone does the stupid pvp daily for that rep |
| 09:28.41 | Ellipsis | I don't pvp, so I can't. |
| 09:28.45 | cncfanatics | you "don't pvp" |
| 09:28.45 | bigzero | Ellipsis, consortium doesn't have exalted enchant |
| 09:28.48 | cncfanatics | thats a personal choice |
| 09:29.01 | Ellipsis | bigzero: and I have exalted consortium :P |
| 09:29.02 | cncfanatics | I pvp when needed :p |
| 09:29.07 | cncfanatics | I'm revered since yesterday |
| 09:29.11 | cncfanatics | going for exalted today :p |
| 09:29.15 | cncfanatics | the rep is anoying, but quite easy |
| 09:29.24 | Xinhuan | hehe about to 1st pull mother shahraz for the first time in my life :D |
| 09:29.31 | Ellipsis | it's really fast imo |
| 09:29.37 | Ellipsis | actually |
| 09:29.39 | cncfanatics | zaxxis insignias all the way |
| 09:29.41 | cncfanatics | and quests ofc |
| 09:29.46 | Ellipsis | after I got my exalted I helped a hunter friend with his |
| 09:29.56 | Ellipsis | frost traps + seed of corruption = sexy in the pants |
| 09:30.14 | bigzero | H MT sounds nice, but I've never been in a group that got past first boss |
| 09:30.17 | Ellipsis | those zaxxis never saw it comin' |
| 09:30.29 | Ellipsis | bigzero *blink* is he supposed to be hard? |
| 09:30.38 | cncfanatics | wondering the same, he's easy |
| 09:30.39 | Ellipsis | people seem to think they need SR for him... |
| 09:30.52 | bigzero | idk...maybe people just suck |
| 09:30.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "Abraham Lincoln once said that.. if you're a racist, I will attack you with the north." |
| 09:31.05 | Ellipsis | I did H MT just the other day with a severely undergeared tank who died when the boss was around 15% |
| 09:31.09 | Ellipsis | I tanked the rest of the way |
| 09:31.28 | bigzero | Ellipsis, but you had a good healer, right? |
| 09:31.34 | Ellipsis | the healer was good, yeah |
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| 09:31.50 | bigzero | ok, i have to admit I only tried H MT 3 times |
| 09:32.09 | cncfanatics | I did it once on my rogue only, went fine |
| 09:32.10 | bigzero | 1 of which was like 6 months ago |
| 09:32.44 | bigzero | maybe i'm not very lucky with groups |
| 09:32.50 | cncfanatics | don't pug ? :) |
| 09:33.12 | bigzero | hey, Ellipsis, how are the consortium mothly rewards at exalted? |
| 09:33.25 | Fin | they're monthly? |
| 09:33.27 | Fin | huh |
| 09:33.29 | Fin | I didn't realise |
| 09:33.30 | bigzero | yeah |
| 09:33.36 | cncfanatics | Fin, what did you think they were ? |
| 09:33.40 | Ellipsis | bigzero: 2 blues and a handful of greens |
| 09:33.45 | Ellipsis | though I have *horrid* luck |
| 09:33.46 | Fin | I thought they were every rep level |
| 09:33.49 | bigzero | Ellipsis, nice |
| 09:33.58 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I'm revered and never got a blue gem from em |
| 09:34.18 | Ellipsis | I usually get double talasites, while one of my guildies got 2 star of elune and a ruby this month |
| 09:34.33 | bigzero | cncfanatics, i usually don't mind pugs |
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| 09:37.05 | bigzero | oh darn...i lied about having all the enchanting formulas except for kara+...i still need the ones from MC and AQ :-( |
| 09:37.27 | bigzero | now that's a pain to farm |
| 09:37.32 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 09:38.10 | bigzero | i don't get why they only made half of those available through vendors |
| 09:38.53 | Ellipsis | because the others are useless in TBC, theoretically |
| 09:39.03 | Ellipsis | (in practice, they're still in high demand for twinks) |
| 09:39.06 | bigzero | true, but still |
| 09:39.22 | bigzero | is threat to gloves any good? |
| 09:39.37 | Ellipsis | *shrug* |
| 09:39.44 | Ellipsis | I've done it once |
| 09:39.53 | bigzero | someone was looking for it recently |
| 09:39.55 | Ellipsis | I don't sell enchants though, just do them for guildies/friends |
| 09:40.06 | Ellipsis | so once is enough to make me think it must be useful |
| 09:41.37 | mort | it's still nice, 2% isn't that much but everything helps |
| 09:42.19 | ckknight | http://dctanner.tumblr.com/post/23263749 |
| 09:42.58 | mort | gah, capping should filter out incoming messages in other languages |
| 09:43.33 | cncfanatics | lua> 2800/8 |
| 09:43.33 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 350 |
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| 09:45.47 | cncfanatics | ckknight: do you still code for WoW these days ? |
| 09:46.49 | ckknight | not as much as I used to, I've done maintenance mostly recently |
| 09:46.55 | ckknight | and dealing with irl issues |
| 09:48.42 | CIA-4 | 03anxarces * r58396 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_DB.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 09:48.42 | CIA-4 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 09:48.42 | CIA-4 | -Fixed a nil error in line 809 of PB_DB.lua. |
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| 09:50.28 | cncfanatics | someone, with vim, how do you autoindent the selected lines ? |
| 09:50.32 | cncfanatics | I forgot -.- |
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| 09:51.38 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.03 | cncfanatics | thats not autoindent |
| 09:52.15 | cncfanatics | I have a block of code selected and I want it to be autoindented :p |
| 09:53.08 | Zhinjio | looking for good resto shaman spec. Anyone have any thoughts? |
| 09:53.13 | Zhinjio | or someone I can lookup on armory? |
| 09:53.21 | Diao | use == |
| 09:53.31 | Diao | in command mode |
| 09:54.31 | ckknight | I wish mario games had more blood |
| 09:54.34 | cncfanatics | Diao: ty |
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| 09:56.56 | Margus | good morning ye hearties! |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics 07Ace3 * r58397 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/Button/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Extend the ring command to have 3 new optional arguments: angle, startangle, endangle |
| 09:57.01 | Diao | anyone know if there's a way to set all mods that use SML to use the same textures |
| 09:57.28 | Ellipsis | SurfaceControl, Diao |
| 09:57.29 | durcyn | Diao: surfacecontrol should still work |
| 09:57.32 | Diao | ah |
| 09:57.46 | Diao | i guess i should get that |
| 09:57.49 | Diao | thanks |
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| 10:05.42 | Wogroipl_ | Zhinjio, there are 2 resto shaman cookie cutter specs |
| 10:06.39 | Wogroipl_ | 0/5/56 or 8/0/53 |
| 10:07.04 | Zhinjio | looks like what I just looked at is the former. |
| 10:07.21 | Zhinjio | gonna give that a try and see how it goes. |
| 10:07.28 | Diao | do you have to reload ui |
| 10:07.30 | Diao | after using surfacecontrol |
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| 10:08.30 | Zhinjio | I'm assuming I want to focus gear/bonuses on +heal, +int then maybe +spellcrit, eh? |
| 10:08.48 | Wogroipl_ | +heal, and +mp5 to start |
| 10:08.55 | Dezzimal | ckknight: whats happening to rock then? |
| 10:09.07 | Wogroipl_ | how do you link your character here? |
| 10:09.33 | Zhinjio | !c us Hellscream Mazzletov |
| 10:09.36 | ThraeBot | Zhinjio: Mazzletov, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (52/9/0). 6849 HP; 7143 Mana; 140 mana regen; 39 mp5; 6632 Armour; 70.600 Melee DPS; 4.64% melee crit; 127 spell crit; 301 +spell dmg; 381 +heal; 4.64% dodge; 5.96% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 977 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrlczk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mv2nj ][ Updated: Sun Jan 13 05:16:12 2008 EST ]] |
| 10:09.49 | Zhinjio | bah, I haven't switched spec yet |
| 10:09.53 | Diao | looks like it needs to be |
| 10:09.59 | Wogroipl_ | !c eu Runetotem Wogroipl |
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| 10:10.48 | Zhinjio | it doesn't like you. |
| 10:10.51 | Zhinjio | or something. |
| 10:11.00 | ThraeBot | Wogroipl_: Wogroipl is not the character you are looking for! |
| 10:11.08 | Wogroipl_ | nope, but you can find me yourself now too |
| 10:11.12 | Wogroipl_ | it is Purl |
| 10:11.36 | Wogroipl_ | or maybe the EU armory is down |
| 10:12.05 | cncfanatics | !c eu kazzak evolve |
| 10:12.08 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Orc Rogue (19/42/0). 7304 HP; 1508 AP; 333.500 Melee DPS; 24.13% melee crit; 203 melee hit; 24.52% dodge; 10 resilience;[[ TBR: 544 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yus4em ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mk42h ][ Updated: Sun Jan 13 05:18:44 2008 EST ]] |
| 10:12.15 | cncfanatics | eu armory is perfectly up Wogroipl_ |
| 10:12.40 | Wogroipl_ | !c eu runetotem wogroipl |
| 10:13.02 | Zhinjio | yr toon is smelly. |
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| 10:13.13 | Fin | vithos: could you address me please, I'm trying that script :) |
| 10:13.23 | Wogroipl_ | hmmm, I am a tauren, haven't washed in a year |
| 10:13.29 | Laric | !c eu stormrage lager |
| 10:13.42 | ThraeBot | Wogroipl_: wogroipl is not the character you are looking for! |
| 10:13.45 | Zhinjio | Draenei take a bath every month whether we need it or not |
| 10:14.21 | Recluse | month? XD |
| 10:14.24 | Wogroipl_ | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Wogroipl here it is anyway :) |
| 10:14.42 | Dezzimal | are you welsh? |
| 10:14.44 | ThraeBot | Laric: lager is not the character you are looking for! |
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| 10:21.17 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r760 10/ (10 files): Removing everything from this SVN, all moved to git now. Check out git.tekkub.net (once the DNS propagates...) |
| 10:22.15 | cncfanatics | git ! :p |
| 10:22.17 | cncfanatics | git wins |
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| 10:30.30 | Fin | Laric: you're on Stormrage EU? |
| 10:31.01 | Kerafyrm | !c |
| 10:31.11 | Kerafyrm | !c Kilrogg Tiberin |
| 10:31.17 | Kerafyrm | hmmm |
| 10:31.20 | Kerafyrm | i forgot it |
| 10:31.21 | Ozguli` | eu/us? |
| 10:31.29 | Kerafyrm | us |
| 10:31.39 | Ozguli` | !c eu ravenholdt hrthin |
| 10:31.42 | ThraeBot | Ozguli`: Hrthin, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (43/18/0). 7511 HP; 9092 Mana; 201 mana regen; 81 mp5; 117 spell crit; 25 spell hit; 512 +spell dmg/heal; 6.86% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 750 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp9zqq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yo4y8 ][ Updated: Sun Jan 13 05:38:18 2008 EST ]] |
| 10:31.53 | Kerafyrm | !c us kilrogg tiberin |
| 10:31.56 | ThraeBot | Kerafyrm: Tiberin, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (2/11/48). 7654 HP; 7775 Mana; 196 mana regen; 86 mp5; 4.24% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 417 +spell dmg; 1083 +heal; 8.85% dodge; 240 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1454 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywe9pz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rnwuh ][ Updated: Sun Jan 13 05:38:32 2008 EST ]] |
| 10:32.06 | Ozguli` | that's my solo gear then |
| 10:33.57 | Diao | hmm |
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| 10:34.01 | Diao | when bt3 is unlocked |
| 10:34.08 | Diao | what does clicking a bar to turn it red do? |
| 10:34.18 | SunTsu | Diao: You diable it |
| 10:34.19 | durcyn | hides it |
| 10:34.26 | Diao | ah ok |
| 10:34.36 | Diao | thanks |
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| 10:40.53 | vithos | Fin: sorry, i was afk |
| 10:42.45 | Fin | vithos: woo! it works! thanks :) |
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| 10:46.13 | CIA-4 | 03adirelle * r58398 10BankList/BankList.lua: |
| 10:46.13 | CIA-4 | BankList: |
| 10:46.13 | CIA-4 | - fixed search by item link, |
| 10:46.13 | CIA-4 | - one can now search by item id. |
| 10:52.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 10:56.10 | CIA-4 | 03ammo * r58399 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: add toggles for showing the readycheck results |
| 10:56.19 | bigzero | :-( ran around both EPL and WPL and there were exactly 0 bloods of heroes in both... they're so common when you don't need them |
| 10:58.12 | Xinhuan | does it make a difference where shahraz is tanked? |
| 10:58.17 | Xinhuan | middle of room? against wall? |
| 10:59.08 | [Ammo] | we use the middle |
| 10:59.17 | [Ammo] | and group up under the hand of that statue |
| 10:59.18 | Snago | With AceEvent-2.0, are events automaticly unregistered before or after OnDisable? |
| 10:59.22 | [Ammo] | (saves falldamage if you do it right) |
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| 11:03.24 | Grum | Xinhuan: if you tank her near the pool |
| 11:03.34 | Grum | just @ the side of it about halfway along the length (near the middle path) |
| 11:03.45 | Grum | then you can reset her by having the MT walk back 5 yards |
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| 11:06.33 | Diao | boo |
| 11:06.41 | Diao | wish i could attach frames to bottom with minichat |
| 11:09.40 | Grum | Xinhuan: on this image: http://www.bosskillers.com/pix/bbguild/feature/mother-shahraz-positions.jpg <-- where grp3 is .. that is where we put the tanks |
| 11:09.59 | Grum | just test it a bit, on which position she will reset and stand just clear of that :) |
| 11:10.06 | Xinhuan | i only asked if the tanking position made a difference |
| 11:10.17 | Grum | it does, it makes it easy to do another try |
| 11:10.28 | Grum | you cant wipe fighting near the reset point |
| 11:10.41 | Xinhuan | i mean in terms of the possible locations yuo can get ported to |
| 11:10.54 | nevcairiel | we use a one camp approach |
| 11:11.18 | Xinhuan | tanking in middle vs tanking against wall, does one have more possible port locations than the other? |
| 11:11.18 | Grum | than that is a bad spot, but any in that hallway is bad |
| 11:11.35 | Grum | you want to be near as little 'small' worldobjects as possible |
| 11:11.47 | Grum | as you can get teleported inside of them |
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| 11:12.50 | Grum | nevcairiel: never have people teleported out of range (behind shahraz on the side you are not on with the raid?) and die from the dmg? |
| 11:13.14 | Grum | (just curious, that would be my 'doom'-scenario for that method ^^) |
| 11:13.49 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7487-MotherArrows.html |
| 11:13.51 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 11:14.28 | [Ammo] | that doesn't work very well |
| 11:14.40 | Grum | The addon is not designed for brainless people... so also if the addon shows you a down arrow then you should not run down if you have to run through a group of people. <--- that is BS |
| 11:14.48 | Grum | the raid is covered with shadowrest |
| 11:14.49 | Grum | -s |
| 11:14.52 | Grum | just walk through a group :) |
| 11:15.01 | Grum | they can soak it up easily |
| 11:15.13 | Xinhuan | just don't run into the tanks |
| 11:15.23 | Grum | yup |
| 11:15.54 | Grum | when you tank him near the pond, the 'hug the waterfall' (righthandside) is still 'clear' from the tanks |
| 11:16.15 | Srosh | We tank in middle and use 2 camps on the sides. |
| 11:17.13 | Grum | also kinda depends on how many healers you take |
| 11:17.23 | Grum | and how good they are, and if everyone has full SR or not |
| 11:19.13 | nevcairiel | Grum: sure sometimes they get ported out of range, but they dont die. Shadow pots and all ftw |
| 11:19.46 | [Ammo] | shadow ward :) |
| 11:20.02 | nevcairiel | but the risk of getting a port into or near a group is way higher with the 3 spot thing |
| 11:21.17 | Grum | but as they all have full shadowresist and 3 healers .. should be trivial :) |
| 11:22.39 | Grum | but then again that depends on you taking 9 healers and a full SR-raid |
| 11:26.07 | nevcairiel | we take 8 and a full SR Raid |
| 11:26.48 | nevcairiel | two on saberlash tanks, 3 on MT, one left outside the group, one right outside the group (both for port healing), and one group healer |
| 11:27.24 | Diao | hm |
| 11:27.27 | Diao | how do you change the size of the zone map |
| 11:27.38 | nevcairiel | you set its scale |
| 11:28.04 | Diao | how o: |
| 11:28.31 | Xinhuan | frame:SetScale(x) |
| 11:28.53 | Diao | ah |
| 11:29.00 | Diao | hrmm |
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| 11:32.01 | Grum | prolly WorldMap:SetScale :) |
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| 11:33.10 | nevcairiel | WorldMapFrame or something |
| 11:33.18 | Grum | seriously cant wait till thursday >< |
| 11:34.12 | nevcairiel | whats thursday? |
| 11:34.21 | Grum | illidan again :D |
| 11:34.28 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 11:34.30 | Grum | i love that fight :) |
| 11:34.34 | nevcairiel | we do him tonight |
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| 11:34.42 | nevcairiel | i hope he finally drops the healing trinket |
| 11:35.40 | Grum | seems like we might do a full t6 clear in 3 days, just 4 bosses left in MH |
| 11:36.15 | Grum | what trinket does he have? mmm |
| 11:36.35 | nevcairiel | we usually do the 3 day clear |
| 11:36.40 | nevcairiel | once you get used to BT and MH |
| 11:36.43 | nevcairiel | its easy |
| 11:36.48 | Grum | i'm still not |
| 11:36.52 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32496 |
| 11:36.54 | Grum | just been once past Teron >< |
| 11:36.55 | nevcairiel | that trinket :P |
| 11:37.28 | Grum | nice :D |
| 11:38.12 | Grum | they can add more fights like illidan imho |
| 11:40.33 | Cheads | imfo nerf all the raid content so us noobs can experience it too =) |
| 11:41.30 | Grum | just shahraz is hard tbh |
| 11:41.46 | nevcairiel | i find bloodboil hard myself |
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| 11:42.55 | Cheads | from maulgar+ it's all too hard =) |
| 11:43.17 | Cheads | unless there are something easier than that encounter =) |
| 11:44.19 | Gandharva | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/80626 -> This happens on login when the Quartz target module is not enabled |
| 11:44.22 | Cheads | too little time for raiding =( |
| 11:45.39 | Paradox | Recount alternatives ? |
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| 11:47.00 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r58400 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Leader/Ready.lua): oRA2: frFR Update |
| 11:49.37 | Xinhuan | meh 30% wipe |
| 11:55.10 | Lukian | Paradox, swstats :D |
| 11:55.29 | Paradox | nay =( |
| 11:55.34 | [Ammo] | violation |
| 11:55.35 | Lukian | hehe |
| 11:55.37 | Paradox | asessment looks nice |
| 11:55.39 | Lukian | Yes! Violation |
| 11:55.58 | Lukian | [Ammo], how hard is it to add shadow priest MC dps? |
| 11:56.05 | Lukian | or waiting for 2.4? :) |
| 11:56.08 | [Ammo] | too hard probably |
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| 11:59.57 | BjK | bleh, grid won't let me change it's font.. what's up with that? it doesn't even appear in the menu anymore |
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| 12:04.11 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r58401 10Cartographer_Routes/Locale-frFR.lua: Cartographer_Routes: frFR Update |
| 12:04.29 | Xinhuan | SHAZ DOWN! |
| 12:04.33 | Xinhuan | however you spell his name |
| 12:04.35 | Grum | grats!!!!!!! |
| 12:04.39 | Grum | Shahraz :P |
| 12:04.51 | Grum | which tactic did you use? |
| 12:04.59 | Xinhuan | [Leggings of Devastation] |
| 12:05.02 | Xinhuan | i used ammo's strat |
| 12:05.06 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:05.07 | Xinhuan | raid stand under statue |
| 12:05.09 | [Ammo] | grats |
| 12:05.09 | Xinhuan | tank in mid |
| 12:05.10 | ramoz | Her |
| 12:05.14 | ramoz | its a girl :O |
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| 12:05.34 | nevcairiel | its a fucking demon, what difference does it make if girl or guy ? :P |
| 12:05.44 | sb | hmm whats ammo's strat? :o |
| 12:05.47 | Ellipsis | demons are people too |
| 12:05.50 | sb | need to kill mother tomorrow :p |
| 12:05.57 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: nah, you're the exception |
| 12:06.00 | ramoz | yeah, listen to Ellipsis nevcairiel |
| 12:06.05 | Gngsk | last time I checked most mothers were female |
| 12:06.24 | Xinhuan | pfft who cares |
| 12:06.33 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 12:06.46 | nevcairiel | hey now 2 days left to do council ;) |
| 12:06.54 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r58402 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: frFR Update |
| 12:06.55 | Fisker- | btw |
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| 12:07.04 | Fisker- | BIGGEST TARD EVAR |
| 12:07.17 | Fisker- | we had someone in a WSG |
| 12:07.26 | Xinhuan | also you know that MotherArrows? |
| 12:07.29 | Xinhuan | it turns out that it did work |
| 12:07.31 | Fisker- | and a couple of us was in a group so we marked each other so we could follow each other |
| 12:07.41 | Xinhuan | got everyone to install it and everyone just ran whatever direction the mod pointed |
| 12:07.43 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 12:07.45 | Fisker- | then he let the other team cap because he refused to turn in the flag |
| 12:08.00 | Fisker- | and ran out to alliance and got himself killed |
| 12:08.10 | Fisker- | because we had marked ourself with marks |
| 12:08.27 | Pkekyo| | rofl Fisker- |
| 12:08.27 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: someone suggested that in our guild forums, we said "screw it, we dont want to rely on some stupid mod, l2p" :P |
| 12:08.40 | Pkekyo| | a shot to the face with 12gauge would solve that issue real quick |
| 12:08.41 | Xinhuan | you know how bigwigs announces 3 names? |
| 12:08.46 | Xinhuan | Attraction: playerA, B, C |
| 12:08.52 | Xinhuan | initially, we gotthis plan |
| 12:09.01 | Xinhuan | where A always runs West, B always runs east |
| 12:09.03 | nevcairiel | the names are not in the same order for everyone |
| 12:09.04 | Xinhuan | and C always runs north |
| 12:09.09 | Xinhuan | yep so i announced on /rw |
| 12:09.14 | Xinhuan | and everybody turns off bossblock |
| 12:09.25 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 12:09.26 | Xinhuan | it turns out we have the most retarded people in the world who can't figure out west from east |
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| 12:09.29 | Xinhuan | and left from right |
| 12:09.32 | sb | haha |
| 12:09.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:09.40 | Xinhuan | or whether they are supposed to go west or north |
| 12:09.51 | nevcairiel | we just say "cloth right, leather left, plate front, mail back" |
| 12:09.54 | Xinhuan | so our raid leader said fuck this |
| 12:09.54 | nevcairiel | works pretty much |
| 12:09.59 | Xinhuan | go install mod and see if it works |
| 12:10.08 | nevcairiel | if you've two of the same kind, well they have to figure it out :P |
| 12:10.18 | sb | Xinhuan: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7487-MotherArrows.html <-- this one works? |
| 12:10.20 | ramoz | Xinhuan: i thought you had illidan on farm |
| 12:10.26 | sb | errr -one |
| 12:10.29 | Xinhuan | yes it actually does LOL |
| 12:10.40 | Xinhuan | nope, heading to council now |
| 12:11.20 | Pkekyo| | "It's your choise, but if you don't want to, you're gonna" |
| 12:11.50 | Xinhuan | turns out that everyone who got ported faces the same direction (north i think) |
| 12:12.00 | Xinhuan | so all the mod does it take your raidID (raidxx) unitid |
| 12:12.21 | sb | Xinhuan: did you test http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10747/ <-- |
| 12:12.22 | Xinhuan | and assigns the lowest to "right", next to "left" and higher to "down" |
| 12:12.26 | sb | looks much better :p |
| 12:12.44 | Xinhuan | nope didn't try it, but would have if the other one didn't work |
| 12:12.53 | Xinhuan | also we dn't use dbm ;p |
| 12:14.38 | Pkekyo| | I hate dbm |
| 12:14.48 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't let me remove the fugly minimap button :< |
| 12:17.23 | SNiLD | is there a mod to watch what addon might be causing "leaps" every minute or so? |
| 12:18.11 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 12:18.13 | Pkekyo| | leaps? |
| 12:18.16 | Xinhuan | until optionhouse adds a graphing ability |
| 12:18.37 | SNiLD | yes, every minute or so, everything stops |
| 12:18.45 | SNiLD | no events i do at that time will get through |
| 12:18.50 | SNiLD | for example if i try to drink at that time |
| 12:18.58 | SNiLD | the drinking action doesn't register |
| 12:20.10 | Pkekyo| | SNiLD: disable upper half of your addons list, try again...if the problem doesn't occur, you know it's in the lower half of your addons list, if it occur, it's in the upper half... keep cutting your current list in half and you'll isolate the problem sooner or later |
| 12:20.23 | Pkekyo| | not a really good way, but guess it'd be the most efficient in your case |
| 12:20.44 | Matrix110 | its pretty much always the fastest way :P |
| 12:21.08 | Pkekyo| | depends on who's doing it :p |
| 12:21.42 | nevcairiel | binary search is always the fastest way in that situation |
| 12:22.03 | Pkekyo| | some of us can make binary searches last for ever :P |
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| 12:22.22 | Xinhuan | is council easy? |
| 12:22.27 | Xinhuan | everything i heard about it is easy |
| 12:22.42 | Gandharva | imo itŽs easy |
| 12:23.51 | Matrix110 | Depends on the people tbh |
| 12:23.59 | Gandharva | even illidan is very easy. he took us 5h... |
| 12:24.12 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: get the pull right, and teach people to concentrate for 15 minutes, then its easy |
| 12:24.21 | Xinhuan | sounds good |
| 12:24.27 | Pkekyo| | Gandharva: screw you :< |
| 12:24.58 | nevcairiel | we had .. let me guess .. i think 2 evenings on illidan, which is 8 hours or so, not too bad for the final boss |
| 12:25.19 | Matrix110 | If people dont move out of AoE they die, if people dont like using a HS sometimes they can die, if Rogue/Warrior/Mage/Shaman doesnt kick/cs/shoch/pummel/Shieldbash the right spells its annoying |
| 12:25.56 | nevcairiel | ya, interrupting is important, and people need to move out of the AoE, then everything is easy |
| 12:26.23 | Matrix110 | We had a bit more work on Illidan because one of our Flame Tanks screwed up for along time:-( rest was pretty easy then^^ |
| 12:26.25 | nevcairiel | we assigned our raid healers onto groups, like 1 healer grp 1-2, one grp3 (our melees, take more dmg generally), and one gp4-5 |
| 12:26.29 | nevcairiel | works pretty good |
| 12:26.36 | Pkekyo| | wtf...dx9 has gone tits up |
| 12:27.22 | Matrix110 | We had 1 try @Council which was really funny iam tanking the Mage and got like every Deadly Poison and so damn many AoEs think we never had such a fast takedown:P |
| 12:27.27 | Sais | Pkekyo|: You're getting graphics glitches, too? |
| 12:27.51 | sb | Xinhuan: are motherarrows static or do they rotate when moving? |
| 12:27.57 | Xinhuan | they are static |
| 12:28.10 | Xinhuan | so you just follow the initial direction |
| 12:28.14 | Pkekyo| | Sais: I'm getting an error message saying wow couldn't initialize DX9.0 |
| 12:28.23 | Xinhuan | and ignore eveything else and just make sure you aren't running parallel to someone |
| 12:28.43 | sb | i see people running in circles :o |
| 12:29.00 | Sais | Oh. I've had a couple of instances where the screen has gone black except in one quadrant where I get pretty coloured lines. |
| 12:29.01 | Gandharva | Pkekyo|: reinstall dx9 and update your vga-drivers |
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| 12:29.45 | Pkekyo| | vga? |
| 12:29.57 | floH | Hello =) anyone of you have the Addon "Basic Chat Mods"? |
| 12:30.06 | Pkekyo| | Sais: this is an old system, wow worked on it 15hrs ago |
| 12:30.49 | Gandharva | Video Graphics Array (VGA) |
| 12:31.04 | Sais | I am torn between blaming the update and blaming the drivers. Just need to remove one of the variables :D |
| 12:31.22 | Pkekyo| | Gandharva: as in the old outdated standard? |
| 12:31.58 | Sais | I assume G meant vga drivers as in graphics drivers |
| 12:32.11 | Gandharva | Pkekyo|: just update your graphics card drivers :) |
| 12:32.12 | floH | Anyone know the Slash-Command for the Options from "Basic Chat Mods"? =/ |
| 12:32.13 | Sais | It's certainly shorter to type :) |
| 12:32.30 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I got that Sais...just wondering why someone would say 'vga drivers' |
| 12:32.45 | Pkekyo| | Sais: not really...graphics card could be abbreviated to gfx :p |
| 12:33.59 | Sais | ...but then "fx" means something else. and gfx isn't quite as standard....but it's unimportant if you get the meaning. |
| 12:34.16 | floH | oh come on... a simple no or anything else... |
| 12:34.47 | floH | </3 wowace |
| 12:34.58 | Pkekyo| | Sais: "gfx" is simply an abbrevation of "graphics", and nothing else |
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| 12:36.32 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Untrue. That usage is common, but see: |
| 12:36.33 | Codayus | http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/GFX |
| 12:37.54 | Pkekyo| | "GFXGovernment Furnished Equipment" <--- wait...what? |
| 12:38.00 | Codayus | Anyhow, a better term would probably be GPU. |
| 12:39.04 | Pkekyo| | either way, I doubt anyone will mistake "gfx drivers" for "government furnished equipment drivers" :p |
| 12:40.28 | Codayus | Perhaps, but "graphic effect drivers" would be an incorrect term, and absent any context would probably sound like you were referring to DirectX, rather than the hardware drivers. |
| 12:40.40 | Codayus | So there. :-p |
| 12:41.42 | Pkekyo| | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:+gfx&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
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| 12:42.30 | Codayus | Pft, just because it's in wikipedia doesn't mean it's true. |
| 12:42.46 | Pkekyo| | same statement could apply to thefreedictionary |
| 12:42.50 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 12:43.11 | Codayus | But *my* point was that there are conflicting definitions. |
| 12:43.35 | Codayus | I even said that the "gfx" = "graphics" usage was common. |
| 12:44.17 | Sais | ...yet that was my issue with it - that I don't feel it's standard. I avoided using it earlier because I wasn't sure it would mean the same thing to others that I'd seen it used for. |
| 12:44.28 | Codayus | However, the use of "fx" to mean "effects" is very common, as are various TLA that end in "fx" to mean "something effects". |
| 12:44.43 | Sais | ...but again, as long as the message got across, it's unimportant. |
| 12:45.25 | Codayus | "GPU" is just as short, and has the benefit of being unambiguous. (Although I fear it may be less common than "gfx".) |
| 12:45.30 | Pkekyo| | there will always be more or less conflicting definitions as to the meaning of a word/term...bloody semmantics... |
| 12:46.19 | Xinhuan | how many healers does council need? |
| 12:46.22 | Pkekyo| | 73 |
| 12:46.22 | Xinhuan | 7 seems tough ~_~ |
| 12:46.33 | Codayus | Get better healers. |
| 12:46.46 | Xinhuan | 3 are druids, only 1 is a pally atm |
| 12:47.03 | nevcairiel | we usually take 9, 3 on pally tank, 1 on each other tank, and 3 for group heal |
| 12:47.05 | Codayus | (Actually, I have no idea. My guild is currently celebrating one shotting Morogrim on our first ever attempt. Yeah...we're casual.) |
| 12:47.36 | nevcairiel | and we finish with 3 mins to go, so never had the need to get more dps |
| 12:52.02 | Xinhuan | oh well, raid over tonight, 4 hours on council tomorrow |
| 12:58.45 | Daemona | *yawn* g'mornin |
| 12:59.49 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
| 13:05.46 | Paradox | how can I get the Armoury texture used in Recount into Pitbull when i'm no longer using Recount? |
| 13:06.51 | Ellipsis | install SharedMedia |
| 13:07.05 | Dezzimal | gfx to me is graphical effects :/ |
| 13:07.32 | Paradox | is it posible to just drag the texture from the recount addon dir into pitbull somewhere? |
| 13:07.36 | Paradox | rather than install sharedmedia |
| 13:08.48 | Dezzimal | probably |
| 13:09.24 | Dezzimal | I'm not familiar with it but I'll bet I can find it in about 2 minutes here |
| 13:10.48 | Paradox | well i've found the texture in recount but I can't find the ones in pitbull or where to drop it |
| 13:10.51 | Dezzimal | what armoury texture are you talking about anyway |
| 13:11.06 | Paradox | Armory.tga |
| 13:11.12 | Paradox | it's just a texture in recount |
| 13:11.24 | Dezzimal | oh that grey thing? |
| 13:11.25 | Dezzimal | lol |
| 13:11.47 | Dezzimal | try dropping Armory.tga in Pitbull/media/ |
| 13:12.12 | Paradox | ok thanks |
| 13:12.53 | Dezzimal | someone should code pallypower |
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| 13:12.58 | Dezzimal | to never load on non-paladin characters |
| 13:13.19 | Paradox | no dice |
| 13:13.22 | Dezzimal | actually I could see it being somewhat useful if all your paladins are retarded |
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| 13:15.43 | Paradox | this sucks =( don't want to use recount anymore but I love that texture on all my bars |
| 13:15.53 | Dezzimal | install sharedmedia then |
| 13:16.46 | cladhaire | Dezzimal: easy enough, make it load on demand, and use addonloader |
| 13:17.27 | Paradox | there's a LibSharedMedia folder in pitbulls sub dir |
| 13:18.21 | Fisker- | bawww time |
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| 13:20.11 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen No Country For Old Men? it any good? |
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| 13:20.51 | Pkekyo| | sod-all, reboot...brb |
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| 13:21.01 | Xinhuan | ## X-Embeds: Ace2, DewdropLib, CandyBar, GratuityLib, SharedMediaLib, PaintChipsLib, BabbleLib |
| 13:21.04 | Xinhuan | ## Title: MotherArrows|cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r |
| 13:21.14 | Xinhuan | what the hell 7 libraries for like a 50 line mod |
| 13:21.53 | [Ammo] | I think htat was a copypaste job |
| 13:22.01 | [Ammo] | don't see how those arrows could need candybar |
| 13:22.04 | Paradox | ah think I found out how |
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| 13:25.46 | Paradox | added the texture to quartz |
| 13:25.49 | Grum | whooo just won the fishing contest ^^ |
| 13:25.55 | Ellipsis | grats Grum |
| 13:25.55 | Paradox | which pitbull can read, I think |
| 13:26.01 | Pkekyo| | congrats Grum |
| 13:26.04 | Paradox | grats grum.. (damn, I always forget to bloody do it xD) |
| 13:26.13 | Paradox | every sunday I forget |
| 13:26.15 | Grum | mruahahha :D |
| 13:26.22 | Grum | second time i tried ^^ |
| 13:26.59 | Grum | meh that was stupidly exciting *shame* |
| 13:27.14 | Paradox | anyone use Aloft? |
| 13:27.16 | Grum | actually fished up 16 fish that werent the right kind >< |
| 13:27.20 | Pkekyo| | Paradox: aye |
| 13:27.34 | Paradox | well you know how you can set it to show health bars based on the persons class |
| 13:27.37 | Grum | so should have finished after ~14 minutes instead of 21 :) |
| 13:27.38 | nevcairiel | i should try the contest next week |
| 13:27.47 | Grum | trick is to start in a good spot |
| 13:27.52 | Pkekyo| | Paradox: aye? |
| 13:28.02 | Paradox | is it not possible for the addon to automatically get their class and colour them appropriately? I find myself spamming the mouse allover the screen hovering over people to get their healthbar coloured |
| 13:28.05 | Grum | i got 21 fish without *anyone* being near me |
| 13:28.11 | nevcairiel | Grum: so where is a good spot in your opinion ? :p |
| 13:28.22 | Grum | sec, let me mark it somehow |
| 13:28.25 | Pkekyo| | Paradox: I think it's using the /inspect function or something, so no, don't think so |
| 13:28.33 | Paradox | ok :< |
| 13:28.34 | nevcairiel | wowhead lets you mark stuff on maps |
| 13:28.43 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19807 <-- that is the map with fishies |
| 13:29.33 | Pkekyo| | how do I get a program to run on windows startup? |
| 13:29.56 | Codayus | Startup folder in the Start menu is the easiest way, usually. |
| 13:30.11 | Grum | nevcairiel: http://www.wowhead.com/?maps=33:275466272417287382318359344361344322314299288267286227295258304256304269 |
| 13:30.15 | Grum | start @ the bottom one |
| 13:30.17 | Grum | near the arena |
| 13:30.22 | Grum | most people start a bit below |
| 13:30.25 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: just put a shortcut in it? |
| 13:30.29 | Codayus | Yar |
| 13:30.31 | Grum | so you have time to fish until past the horde camp alone |
| 13:30.40 | Grum | @ the bunch of dots, the first person strated fishing my pool |
| 13:30.41 | Pkekyo| | cheers |
| 13:30.57 | Grum | i fished north a bith with em |
| 13:31.03 | Grum | and then turned south again |
| 13:31.06 | Grum | most had spawned :P |
| 13:31.12 | Grum | and i had another 3-4 pools without anynoe |
| 13:31.14 | nevcairiel | i'll probably forget to do the contest next week anyway |
| 13:31.25 | Paradox | what'd you pick grum? |
| 13:31.30 | Paradox | the rod or the fish trinket |
| 13:31.31 | Grum | the angler |
| 13:31.41 | Grum | i alreayd had the enchant for it from the previous time i tried it |
| 13:31.42 | Paradox | ah, i'd get the fish trinket first |
| 13:31.54 | nevcairiel | i'm a druid, i dun need fish trinkets :) |
| 13:32.02 | Paradox | yeah I got the pole enchant myself when I tried once but since then i've forgot every single week |
| 13:32.08 | Xinhuan | ammo, you were right, its a copy and paste job, the actual libs included in the zip doesn't have candybar |
| 13:32.13 | Xinhuan | or the extraneous stuff |
| 13:32.41 | Grum | Paradox: the angler itself is more useful because now i can fish highland fish with the cheap lures :P |
| 13:33.30 | CIA-4 | 03djidiouf * r58403 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-frFR.lua: |
| 13:33.30 | CIA-4 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 13:33.30 | CIA-4 | - frFR Update |
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| 13:41.03 | CIA-4 | 03belazor * r58404 10Cryolysis2/: |
| 13:41.03 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 13:41.03 | CIA-4 | - Added Babble-Zone-2.2 as external. |
| 13:42.17 | Grum | how does one compose an ingredient link? or enchant link? |
| 13:42.34 | Dezzimal | believe it or not |
| 13:42.36 | Dezzimal | ask wowhead :D |
| 13:43.12 | Dezzimal | /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this link to put into chat: \124cffff8000\124Hitem:32837:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Warglaive of Azzinoth]\124h\124r"); |
| 13:44.17 | Grum | no that is not what i asked for :P |
| 13:44.19 | Grum | not an itemlink |
| 13:44.21 | CIA-4 | 03belazor * r58405 10Cryolysis2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:44.21 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 13:44.21 | CIA-4 | - Changed the Sphere settings to dropdown menus |
| 13:44.34 | Dezzimal | oh misread lol |
| 13:44.37 | Grum | i need a 'you need this stuff for this recipy'-link :D |
| 13:44.52 | Dezzimal | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.09 | Grum | lol last time i checked they didnt had those |
| 13:45.13 | Grum | thanks :D |
| 13:45.13 | Dezzimal | and yes thats the one you're looking for |
| 13:45.21 | Dezzimal | heh |
| 13:50.54 | Dezzimal | whos that one poet or writer with the marginally lewd name |
| 13:50.57 | Dezzimal | something like balzack |
| 13:53.18 | CIA-4 | 03ananhaid * r58406 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: |
| 13:53.18 | CIA-4 | oRA2: |
| 13:53.18 | CIA-4 | - zhCN update. |
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| 13:54.50 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen no country for old men? |
| 13:55.23 | evl | no but I heard it was really good |
| 13:55.52 | Pkekyo| | so far, it's just confusing |
| 13:56.20 | Pkekyo| | hot shit, tommy lee jones...it just got a whole lot better |
| 13:58.38 | xyu | Pkekyo|: i liked it |
| 13:58.59 | Pkekyo| | does it get less confusing? :P |
| 13:59.05 | xyu | no |
| 13:59.32 | Pkekyo| | doh |
| 13:59.46 | Pkekyo| | this'll be like the first time I watched lock stock and two smoking barrels then |
| 14:00.04 | Dezzimal | fear and loathing in las vegas |
| 14:00.11 | xyu | it's quite a "downer" movie. but i like it that way |
| 14:00.15 | xyu | and it really sticks to the book |
| 14:00.17 | xyu | almost word for word |
| 14:00.23 | Pkekyo| | what book? |
| 14:00.23 | Dezzimal | is another movie that I'll never get |
| 14:00.29 | xyu | "NO country for old men" |
| 14:00.42 | xyu | it's a novel first |
| 14:00.47 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 14:00.58 | Pkekyo| | Dezzimal: that's the entire purpose of fear and loathing |
| 14:01.01 | xyu | which is why it's a little confusing to some. |
| 14:01.15 | xyu | it's a direct adaptation, no jazzing things up for on screen |
| 14:01.22 | Dezzimal | everyone that I know that has liked it |
| 14:01.26 | Pkekyo| | I don't get what's up with the HPA tank |
| 14:01.26 | xyu | which, to me, makes it a little more real |
| 14:01.29 | Dezzimal | has been a pot smoker |
| 14:01.43 | xyu | for his pneumatic drill? |
| 14:01.55 | xyu | wuts a HPA tank :D |
| 14:02.05 | Pkekyo| | high pressure air = HPA |
| 14:02.16 | Dezzimal | I've almost got a juno dvd screener done :/ |
| 14:02.20 | xyu | ah that's just his style i guess. clean, fast. no pain. |
| 14:02.33 | xyu | This guy has his own set of ethics and morals, even if they are sick. he sticks to them. |
| 14:02.42 | Pkekyo| | huh |
| 14:02.48 | Dezzimal | xyu: like dexter? |
| 14:03.04 | xyu | the cartoon character? |
| 14:03.07 | Dezzimal | no |
| 14:03.13 | Dezzimal | showtime original series |
| 14:03.22 | xyu | oh, never saw it ;; |
| 14:03.25 | Pkekyo| | the HPA tank sure is handy when busting through doors |
| 14:03.40 | Dezzimal | so in no country for old men the main character is a murderer or something? |
| 14:03.45 | xyu | yes |
| 14:03.49 | Dezzimal | nice |
| 14:03.51 | Recluse | that movie was pretty good |
| 14:03.54 | Dezzimal | you might like dexter then >_> |
| 14:03.58 | Pkekyo| | now don't spoil anything! :p |
| 14:04.02 | xyu | i'll check it out :) |
| 14:04.04 | xyu | i wn't |
| 14:04.07 | xyu | nothing to spoil really haha |
| 14:04.09 | Recluse | dexter was a good series as well |
| 14:04.41 | Pkekyo| | xyu: basicly, he just kills lots of people and that's it? |
| 14:04.48 | xyu | not really |
| 14:05.06 | Pkekyo| | well, then the ending will leave me surprised |
| 14:05.06 | Pkekyo| | now don't spoil |
| 14:05.07 | xyu | he doens't really kill at random. he kills according to his own code |
| 14:05.10 | Dezzimal | he forcibly euthanizes the elderly? lol |
| 14:05.10 | xyu | i wont |
| 14:05.27 | Dezzimal | [08:04] <xyu> he doens't really kill at random. he kills according to his own code <- this is exactly what the TV series Dexter is |
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| 14:05.43 | xyu | cool, i'll check it out |
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| 14:05.49 | Pkekyo| | so basicly, it's vigilantism, or something along those lines..? |
| 14:05.53 | xyu | no |
| 14:05.54 | xyu | he's a hitman |
| 14:06.05 | Xnertot | sers |
| 14:06.09 | Dezzimal | dexter is more vigilanteism |
| 14:06.29 | Dezzimal | with dry humour |
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| 14:07.08 | xyu | there is nothing righteous or good about this guy in any way. Except that when he says something he'll do it. He doesn't lie, etc. But he is very sick. |
| 14:08.17 | CIA-4 | 03belazor * r58407 10Cryolysis2/ (Developer Notes.txt buttons/managem.lua core/events.lua): |
| 14:08.17 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 14:08.17 | CIA-4 | - Fix Mana Emerald button cooldown to work with the '3 Charges' system. |
| 14:08.24 | Pkekyo| | still got an hour 20 min to go |
| 14:08.34 | xyu | ha, then it'll make more sense later |
| 14:09.15 | Pkekyo| | good to know |
| 14:09.23 | Pkekyo| | wasn't sure I'd keep watching:p |
| 14:09.36 | xyu | my roomate works at blockbuster so i pretty much get to see every movie ever :P |
| 14:09.48 | Pkekyo| | lucky sod |
| 14:09.50 | xyu | they let them rent the new release movies 1 week before they're out |
| 14:10.28 | Pkekyo| | LUCKY SOD |
| 14:11.27 | Pkekyo| | well this hunter guy seems to be enough of a sick sod himself tbh |
| 14:11.45 | xyu | yeah, he has his own principles too :D |
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| 14:12.31 | xyu | did the coin toss scene pass yet? |
| 14:12.38 | Pkekyo| | yes it did |
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| 14:12.49 | Pkekyo| | just saw him buy tent poles and a shotgun /shrug |
| 14:14.12 | xyu | i've never heard of the name Llewellyn before. sounds pretty girly :P |
| 14:14.19 | xyu | no offense to all of you Llewellyns out there. |
| 14:14.43 | Pkekyo| | that's how his name is spelled? O.o |
| 14:15.00 | xyu | i think so |
| 14:15.46 | Pkekyo| | his name is Llewelyn Moss |
| 14:15.47 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 14:16.02 | Pkekyo| | aye, that's a girly name |
| 14:16.28 | Pkekyo| | wtf, a shotgun with a silencer? O.o |
| 14:16.48 | Sais | I always think of Llewel(l)yn as a surname. |
| 14:16.49 | Pkekyo| | that's sick |
| 14:17.47 | Sais | (e.g. The actor who plays Kryton in Red Dwarf, Robert Llewellyn (iirc)) |
| 14:18.21 | haste | red dwarf <3 |
| 14:18.54 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 14:18.57 | Pkekyo| | wtf is red dwarf? |
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| 14:19.07 | Dezzimal | BBC comedy |
| 14:19.10 | Dezzimal | from way back |
| 14:19.22 | Dezzimal | its basically what firefly would be if the british had anything to do with it |
| 14:19.40 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 14:19.50 | Pkekyo| | meh, wish firefly hadn't been discontinued |
| 14:19.51 | Dezzimal | I used to watch it lol |
| 14:20.09 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dwarf << harr harr |
| 14:21.10 | Dezzimal | actually if you mated firefly and the office |
| 14:21.14 | Dezzimal | you'd probably have firefly |
| 14:21.20 | Dezzimal | I mean red dwarf |
| 14:21.54 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 14:22.01 | Pkekyo| | ok, I'll stick to firefly then |
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| 14:22.43 | Pkekyo| | woody harrelson is awesome...no country just made me want to watch natural born killers :p |
| 14:24.22 | Pkekyo| | why would he say that there's one floor missing in the building? O.o |
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| 14:39.50 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 14:40.01 | Pkekyo| | g'morning |
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| 14:47.16 | sb | meh |
| 14:47.19 | sb | wtb heart of darkness :/ |
| 14:47.25 | xyu | me too |
| 14:47.28 | xyu | just 4! |
| 14:47.31 | nevcairiel | wtb memento of tyrande |
| 14:47.50 | sb | sucks if you only have hearts for 27 players (4 pieces w/o boots) |
| 14:48.13 | xyu | we only have 120 atm |
| 14:48.14 | nevcairiel | we did cloak, bracers, boots, belt |
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| 14:48.19 | nevcairiel | legs is too expensive |
| 14:49.08 | nevcairiel | we told everyone to get one green SR item off the AH to reach 340-350 or so |
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| 14:50.29 | ramoz | we have 28 hearts and are at mother now =( |
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| 14:54.23 | nevcairiel | ramoz: did you give them out for the craftable items before? :p |
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| 14:55.01 | nevcairiel | if we're lucky we get like 20 hearts in one hyjal run alone, well, last week we had 18 or so at least |
| 14:55.47 | xyu | holy shit :D |
| 14:55.49 | xyu | our best is 9 |
| 14:55.51 | xyu | 1 run |
| 14:55.53 | xyu | full clear |
| 14:56.57 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58408 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: refactoring |
| 14:57.16 | ramoz | nevcairiel: i think some have crafted the cloak |
| 14:57.18 | ramoz | the healers i think |
| 14:57.50 | ramoz | we also have less then 9 per run |
| 14:59.01 | m4rku5 | wts heart of darkness (we just killed sharaz ;P) |
| 14:59.10 | m4rku5 | but we had to buy some hearts from other guilds |
| 14:59.29 | Snago | I would buy them if I could |
| 14:59.45 | Snago | We're probably starting BT this week |
| 14:59.57 | m4rku5 | if your starting BT this week you dont need to buy any right now |
| 15:00.33 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58409 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): more refactoring |
| 15:03.39 | Pkekyo| | geif BT! |
| 15:04.04 | m4rku5 | giiieeefff illidan down ;P |
| 15:04.27 | Fisker- | we has 0 each run :( |
| 15:04.41 | Pkekyo| | bottomscan is bloody beautiful |
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| 15:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | woah |
| 15:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW is one memory leaking son of a bitch |
| 15:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i went to sleep earlier and left it on, with foreverafk on |
| 15:15.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it was at 350 MB RAM usage back then |
| 15:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | now it's at 639 |
| 15:15.36 | Pkekyo| | lmao O.o |
| 15:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | hello m4rku5 |
| 15:15.41 | Bruners | 340 and 426 here |
| 15:15.49 | m4rku5 | tja liegt an windows ;D |
| 15:15.53 | sag_ich_nicht | why do you CTCP version me m4rku5 |
| 15:16.03 | sag_ich_nicht | m4rku5 1. please speak english here 2. no, it doesn't |
| 15:16.21 | Merl | mine is at 113 MB ram atm |
| 15:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | windows has nothing to do with WoW having a shitty memory managment, and i'm not reffering to the lua garbage collection |
| 15:16.33 | m4rku5 | well at least after 12h i didnt notice such a memory increase here |
| 15:16.34 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: That's not leaking, that's cacheing |
| 15:16.49 | Bruners | but cant say that i care, as i have 4gb |
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| 15:17.15 | Kalroth | While you were afk, I'm guessing a lot of players walked by you - it caches the textures and data of those players |
| 15:17.27 | Kalroth | And it doesn't free it because you most likely got enough memory not to |
| 15:17.27 | Merl | same here Bruners , but I use XP, so the last one is waisted |
| 15:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth: point is, WoW doesn't stop the caching or free it up, ever. i had multiple out of memory crashes from WoW already :/ |
| 15:18.58 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 15:19.04 | Bruners | Merl: i also have xp |
| 15:19.24 | Bruners | but still need the last one to have dual channel |
| 15:19.54 | Pkekyo| | ok, I've got a mining/blacksmithing char, a tailoring/enchanting char, and a herbalism/?? char (shammy).... what should I chose for a secondary profession? |
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| 15:20.46 | Bruners | skinning |
| 15:20.56 | Wogroipl_ | enchanting |
| 15:21.58 | dodga | Hey, I've got skinning+enchanting on my main :D |
| 15:23.27 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl_: allready got enchanting on him, can't be arsed to keep leveling it though, as I've gotten it to 300+ on my mage |
| 15:23.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: alchemist |
| 15:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 15:23.57 | Pkekyo| | got alchemy on my rogue :ø |
| 15:23.58 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 15:24.14 | sag_ich_nicht | engineering? leatherworking? |
| 15:24.27 | Pkekyo| | leatherworking? it any good for high-level shammies? |
| 15:24.32 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 15:24.42 | Pkekyo| | would have to make a char with skinning then |
| 15:25.54 | Pkekyo| | can't afford to have enchanting on two chars |
| 15:33.25 | JoshBorke | how come I have no line counts? :( http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/RaidCast/Ace3 |
| 15:37.35 | Funkeh` | you suck |
| 15:39.24 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58410 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua): refactoring updates |
| 15:41.43 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`always gets to the true core of problems |
| 15:42.08 | Pkekyo| | so...what's this 'foreverafk'? |
| 15:42.32 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 15:42.38 | Funkeh` | anyone read the wonderfull news about afk |
| 15:42.42 | Funkeh` | in bg |
| 15:42.45 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03kergoth 07master * r7da28388a6 10Panda/ (DETooltip.lua Disenchanting.lua Panda.lua PricePanel.lua): Move common util functions into the addon's table |
| 15:42.45 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03kergoth 07master * rbbcb28199b 10Panda/ (GemCutting.lua Panda.lua Panda.toc): Add Gem cutting (green and blue) panel |
| 15:42.53 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: Hmm, depends on what they are? |
| 15:43.13 | Funkeh` | Hjalte, blizz is investigating accounts that get reported for afk in bg frequently |
| 15:43.23 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: Great! |
| 15:43.31 | Pkekyo| | sweet :) |
| 15:43.51 | Daemona | wtf is Panda? :D |
| 15:44.05 | Daemona | enhanced crafting interface? |
| 15:44.07 | Funkeh` | wow anti virus! |
| 15:44.30 | haste | s/anti// |
| 15:44.45 | Pkekyo| | ~foreverafk |
| 15:45.00 | Bruners | avira > panda |
| 15:45.08 | Funkeh` | haste, ;p |
| 15:45.24 | Funkeh` | Bruners, eset > * |
| 15:45.44 | deadlock | Hmmm. I'm getting these errors.. http://pastebin.com/m46e96405 How can thos ebe fixed? I dont understand what they are refering too. |
| 15:46.35 | haste | nod32 > *, so I agree with Funkeh` |
| 15:46.38 | Industrial | ^ |
| 15:47.13 | Stanzilla | ZOMG |
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| 15:47.19 | Stanzilla | Legendary Drop! |
| 15:47.32 | Bruners | i used to have nod |
| 15:47.40 | Bruners | but then they banned my key |
| 15:47.50 | Funkeh` | don't whore it out |
| 15:47.52 | Bruners | "my" key |
| 15:47.54 | haste | why would they ban your key :p ? |
| 15:48.08 | Pkekyo| | what key? |
| 15:48.13 | CIA-4 | 03shen * r58411 10/branches/SpamSentry/core.lua: SpamSentry: Minor changes & updated internal build number |
| 15:48.16 | Funkeh` | Pkekyo|, AV key ofc |
| 15:48.22 | Pkekyo| | AV key? |
| 15:48.34 | Funkeh` | Pkekyo|, do you know the system eset uses? |
| 15:49.00 | haste | user-name password, harr harr |
| 15:49.09 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: can't say I do |
| 15:49.16 | Bruners | Pkekyo|: a pirated one |
| 15:49.22 | Pkekyo| | no idea what you lot are on about |
| 15:49.29 | Funkeh` | Pkekyo|, you don't buy software like e.g. norton 2007/08 etc. you buy a key for e.g. a year and all the updates and software is free downlaodable, even major updates |
| 15:49.49 | Pkekyo| | oh, right, we're talking anti virus...I thought you were rambling about alterac valley :p |
| 15:49.53 | Funkeh` | you use that key to get online and get the updates and download the software |
| 15:50.01 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 15:50.27 | Funkeh` | the ultimate key.. to AV! |
| 15:50.30 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I know how that works |
| 15:50.44 | Pkekyo| | why doesn't foreverafk work in inns? :< |
| 15:51.26 | Ozguli` | you log out instantly in them |
| 15:51.53 | Pkekyo| | well that sucks |
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| 15:52.00 | Pkekyo| | either way, dinnenrtime...laters |
| 15:52.03 | Pkekyo| | dinner* |
| 15:55.41 | Fisker- | YOUR MOTHERS |
| 15:55.46 | Fisker- | anyone killing magtheridon btw? |
| 15:56.38 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03kergoth 07master * rfadcb6099c 10Panda/AutolootFix.lua: |
| 15:56.38 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: Test commit of DOOMY DOOM |
| 15:56.38 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: Stupid broken CIA bot |
| 15:56.50 | Bruners | why bother killing maggy |
| 15:57.00 | Fisker- | I WANT MY SHIELD |
| 15:57.14 | Bruners | i want my title |
| 15:57.28 | Fisker- | already got it slackers |
| 15:57.33 | Bruners | but my guild only wants to focus on bt |
| 15:57.44 | Fisker- | Been killing magtheridon for like 9 months now |
| 15:57.50 | Fisker- | NOT A SINGLE SHIELD DROP ARGH |
| 15:57.57 | Funkeh` | haven't been to mag for like 9 months |
| 15:58.05 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 15:58.13 | Funkeh` | is the same as yours |
| 15:58.16 | Funkeh` | :O |
| 15:59.25 | nevcairiel | that explains alot |
| 15:59.27 | Funkeh` | so I just found this cool program yesterday |
| 15:59.32 | Funkeh` | called keyscrambler |
| 15:59.47 | nevcairiel | mm i need to do mag with my alt warrior |
| 15:59.51 | nevcairiel | wtb t4 chest |
| 16:00.14 | Funkeh` | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3383 |
| 16:00.18 | Funkeh` | has ie plugin also |
| 16:00.27 | Fisker- | but any of you ever seen Aegis of the Vindicator magtheridon lately? |
| 16:00.28 | Bruners | go kill kael instead |
| 16:00.45 | nevcairiel | havent seen magtheridon for 9 month or so :P |
| 16:01.34 | Bruners | burger or kebab? |
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| 16:09.07 | CIA-4 | 03belazor * r58412 10Cryolysis2/messages/core.lua: |
| 16:09.07 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 16:09.07 | CIA-4 | - Fixed random message errors if set to display in Group or Raid and the player is not in a party or raid respectively. |
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| 16:21.16 | mitchnull | anyone knows why UIErrorFrames:SetScrollFromBottom() doesn't work? |
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| 16:28.32 | Pkekyo| | what's the name of the Open Office spreadsheet application? |
| 16:29.50 | ramoz | uhm |
| 16:29.58 | ramoz | how much is terocone worth on average (per stack) |
| 16:32.16 | Pkekyo| | not much? |
| 16:32.38 | Pkekyo| | 12g |
| 16:32.43 | Pkekyo| | no, wait, 24g |
| 16:32.56 | Kalroth | Pkekyo|: According to google it's "Calc" |
| 16:33.28 | Pkekyo| | really? |
| 16:33.39 | Pkekyo| | I should use OO more tbh |
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| 16:33.54 | Pkekyo| | does it have support for the office 2007 formats yet? |
| 16:36.29 | Kalroth | Q: How do I open Microsoft Office 2007 files? |
| 16:36.31 | Kalroth | A: The files produced by Microsoft Office 2007 are also called Office Open XML, OpenXML, OOXML, Office 12, .docx, .xlsx, etc. The current, mainstream version of OpenOffice.org 2.x does not open these files. |
| 16:36.50 | Matrix110| | Openoffice doesnt even support the older office files properly |
| 16:36.58 | Kalroth | You can: "Use an OpenOffice.org variant which already includes a limited implementation of the feature: OxygenOffice Professional, NeoOffice, Novell OpenOffice.org (ODF Converter), Your OpenOffice.org (go-ooo.org)" |
| 16:37.12 | Matrix110| | Not to mention the Powerpoint thing from OpenOffice is the biggest crap in existance |
| 16:37.14 | Pkekyo| | "Office Open"...piece of shit copycats, they are |
| 16:37.32 | Kalroth | Matrix110|: Only suits uses powerpoint anyways :P |
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| 16:38.17 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|: maybe so, but it's an alternative to MS office, and pretty much the only one |
| 16:39.15 | Matrix110| | Got no problem with that but they should just do /care about saving and opening office documents as this fails always |
| 16:39.33 | Matrix110| | If you save a .doc with OO and open it with office it never looks like it should look |
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| 16:40.13 | winkiller | wouldn't bet that it's better with 2 different MSO versions :P |
| 16:40.18 | Matrix110| | it is |
| 16:40.42 | Matrix110| | Office 2003 docs open perfectly in 97 besides newly introduced macros ofc |
| 16:41.10 | Pkekyo| | 17:39Matrix110|Got no problem with that but they should just do /care about saving and opening office documents as this fails always <--- no...just NO |
| 16:46.41 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|: ability to open MS office documents is one of the things that make OO viable |
| 16:47.02 | Matrix110| | Doesnt work good enough for that |
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| 16:47.53 | Matrix110| | If you have to work on 1 larger Document with different people and one of them is using OO instead of Office its such a pain in the ass |
| 16:48.28 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|: well, it's the only bloody thing that works |
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| 16:49.27 | Pkekyo| | not everyone wants to use MS' piece of shit software |
| 16:49.55 | Matrix110| | then dont idc but its still the best office suite there is |
| 16:50.32 | Pkekyo| | and yet it's an absolute piece of shit...that's great... :p |
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| 16:52.32 | cncfanatics | Matrix110|: what makes it superior to OO ? |
| 16:52.39 | cncfanatics | all should be using OO, not all office tbh |
| 16:52.48 | Matrix110| | It works |
| 16:52.52 | cncfanatics | OO works too ? |
| 16:52.54 | cncfanatics | qq more :p |
| 16:52.56 | Matrix110| | No |
| 16:53.05 | cncfanatics | what doesn't work about it ? |
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| 16:53.13 | Matrix110| | Every tried using the Powerpoint thing from it? |
| 16:53.16 | Matrix110| | its total bullshit |
| 16:53.33 | cncfanatics | improved a lot since you last tried I think :p |
| 16:53.47 | Matrix110| | 3weeks ago? |
| 16:53.51 | cncfanatics | hmmm, or not |
| 16:53.55 | cncfanatics | guess you just don't like it |
| 16:54.25 | Matrix110| | Even my IT prof. says: Please dont use OO if you want smth reliably working |
| 16:54.37 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|: do you really expect every piece of freeware to be better or on par with software form the richest software developer in the world? |
| 16:54.49 | Matrix110| | StarOffice is the same shit :P |
| 16:55.07 | cncfanatics | StarOffice == OO with prettyer icons |
| 16:55.21 | cncfanatics | true story :p |
| 16:55.35 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Depends. Compare Apache to IIS... |
| 16:55.44 | Matrix110| | The Dictionaries dont even have 20% of the words Office does since 97... |
| 16:55.51 | cncfanatics | apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IIS |
| 16:55.56 | cncfanatics | but well, apache is a memory hog too |
| 16:56.09 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: "do you expect EVERY"...please note the word 'every' there |
| 16:56.10 | cncfanatics | there are good alternatives to apache too if you don't want it eating memory like a fat kid eats cookies |
| 16:56.27 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: I know. |
| 16:56.29 | MentalPower|Gone | lightty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IIS |
| 16:56.40 | Codayus | cncfanatics: None made by MS though, yes? :-) |
| 16:57.20 | Pkekyo| | pretty much anything MS makes is a piece of shit. it works, but it's a piece of shit |
| 16:58.01 | Codayus | OOo really isn't competitive with Office yet though. :-/ |
| 16:58.24 | Pkekyo| | ofc it isn't, but it's the best alternative there is |
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| 16:58.33 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: their hardware is ok, agree for their software though |
| 16:59.03 | kergoth | powershell is conceptually a great idea, and .NET/c# seem pretty nice to me |
| 16:59.15 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: what hardware? |
| 16:59.29 | Matrix110| | People "hate" MS because its cool to hate it :P I dont love them but i use the Software and build my own opinion about it |
| 16:59.32 | Codayus | Some MS software is quite good, although typically this is true shortly after MS acquired it from somewhere else... |
| 16:59.51 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: I like their mouses |
| 17:00.04 | cncfanatics | I can't find any MS software I'm happy with tbh |
| 17:00.08 | MentalPower|Gone | aye, their mouses are better than logitechs |
| 17:00.22 | cncfanatics | my lil microsoft laser mouse 6000 serves me fine |
| 17:00.33 | Daemona | nothing beats the oldschool logitech dual optical from 1999 ;) |
| 17:00.39 | Pkekyo| | MentalPower|Gone: you're truly mental |
| 17:00.51 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: I agree with MentalPower|Gone onthat one :) |
| 17:00.57 | MentalPower|Gone | my MS mouse has fallen more times than I can count, and its also fallen into a tub of eggdrop soup |
| 17:01.03 | MentalPower|Gone | and it still works just fine |
| 17:01.17 | exor|zzz | MentalPower|Gone: a TUB? |
| 17:01.28 | Codayus | Image Composer was a great image editor back in the day. |
| 17:01.37 | MentalPower|Food | well, half a gallon of the stuff |
| 17:01.38 | Matrix110| | MS hardware support is the best there is :P Call free number: tell them Mouse SN -> 3days later you got a new mouse and keep the old one :P |
| 17:01.44 | Matrix110| | Logitech has the same though |
| 17:01.48 | Codayus | (Speaking of good MS software.) |
| 17:01.51 | Matrix110| | but the delivery takes longer |
| 17:02.00 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|People "hate" MS because its cool to hate it <--- I hate them because they keep screwing me over with ridiculous solutions, using their own retarded standards |
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| 17:02.52 | Matrix110| | Their own Standards existed before anyone started thinking about OpenOffice so they have a right to want their format to be the standard :P |
| 17:03.13 | Pkekyo| | I'm talking general here |
| 17:03.19 | Matrix110| | And almost every big company tries alienating formats as they can get licencing costs there |
| 17:03.21 | Pkekyo| | also, bastards should've used .txt |
| 17:03.24 | Matrix110| | just take a look at Sony |
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| 17:03.43 | Pkekyo| | sony are also dongjobs |
| 17:03.49 | Cryect | hehe |
| 17:04.03 | cncfanatics | gentoo bugs will rule the world http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727 |
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| 17:04.56 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|: particularily IE is pissing me off when it comes to standards |
| 17:05.04 | CIA-4 | 03cossy * r58413 10Bidder/Looting/ (lootframe.lua lootitem.lua): |
| 17:05.04 | CIA-4 | Bidder: |
| 17:05.04 | CIA-4 | - lootframe width increased because deDE local-strings are longer |
| 17:05.16 | Matrix110| | There are good enough alternatives though:P |
| 17:05.22 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Your own fault then. |
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| 17:05.33 | Codayus | Just make sure you don't have a job where you need to worry about IE. :-) |
| 17:05.52 | Codayus | Or hobby, as the case may be. |
| 17:06.21 | Pkekyo| | my fault? sod off |
| 17:06.46 | Matrix110| | There is no reason to keep using IE for Browsing besides some rare pages that require it (DRM stuff or poorly coded) Firefox is like 1000000000steps farther than OpenOffice is:P |
| 17:07.12 | cncfanatics | both opera & firefox > IE imo |
| 17:07.16 | cncfanatics | IE is just a worthless piece of code |
| 17:07.28 | Codayus | Well, I've never been screwed over by MS, have no problems with IE, and have no bitterness... The conclusion here seems obvious. You're making poor lifestyle choices. |
| 17:07.29 | cncfanatics | s/code/bloat/ |
| 17:07.43 | cncfanatics | Codayus, at least admit IE is slooooow |
| 17:07.59 | Codayus | (Note: There may be some small amount of sarcasm in the previous statement. I can neither confirm nor deny.) |
| 17:08.05 | cncfanatics | phew |
| 17:08.06 | Codayus | cncfanatics: I wouldn't know. :-) |
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| 17:08.27 | Codayus | Unlike Pkekyo| *I* don't make it a habit to have anything to do with IE. |
| 17:08.37 | cncfanatics | you never use it ? good |
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| 17:08.55 | Codayus | Which is why, unlike Pkekyo| I am happy and full of goodwill to all, even MS. |
| 17:09.11 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110|There is no reason to keep using IE for Browsing <--- whilst this is true, 'john doe' does not know that, and he does not care, so I have to spend fucking ages working for my website/product to show properly in IE as it does in browsers such as FX and Opera |
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| 17:10.04 | Matrix110| | Well MS is trying to atleast IE8 is even passing Acid2 zomg!!! |
| 17:11.13 | Pkekyo| | I don't buy that for a second |
| 17:11.44 | Pkekyo| | bet they just wrote a plugin specificly for the acid2 test to have their browser pass, and it's as shitty as normal |
| 17:11.54 | Matrix110| | Like Opera did? |
| 17:12.24 | Pkekyo| | documentation? :) |
| 17:12.58 | Matrix110| | Well Opera for some Versions just displayed a pic :P |
| 17:13.05 | Matrix110| | which was quite fast discovered |
| 17:13.37 | Pkekyo| | documentation? |
| 17:13.44 | Fisker- | doomwalker is deceptionally easy :o |
| 17:16.11 | Pkekyo| | no documentation? |
| 17:16.31 | Matrix110| | searching |
| 17:16.41 | Matrix110| | it was 2 or 3 years ago |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58414 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-4 | - Word list updated |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-4 | - Now (optionally) auto-reports spams with ratings > 150. See "Spam" options. |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-4 | - Ability to show how each message you are receiving has been rated. (under "Spam" options) |
| 17:18.12 | CIA-4 | - Saves any extra text received from an identified spammer as evidence for reporting and may autoreport it if it rates higher than 150. |
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| 17:24.30 | vossi | hello .. just a stupid question (really embarrassing) .. |
| 17:24.49 | vossi | I got coolDown of the ace repository .. and i quite like it - but I can't move the frames for the hell of it |
| 17:24.57 | vossi | what am I missing .. no wiki entry either for that addon |
| 17:25.56 | Bruners | do animal boss in kara drop badge? |
| 17:27.32 | vossi | or does anyone have a cooldown addon recomendation? |
| 17:27.47 | Shirik | OmniCC |
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| 17:28.00 | vossi | thanks a bunch |
| 17:28.02 | Shirik | Actually I don't know whaty ou're looking for in a "cooldown addon" |
| 17:28.05 | Shirik | but that's what I use |
| 17:28.33 | Matrix110| | hmm cant find it but iam sure there was some Browser just detecting the Acid2 test and displaying the correct picture |
| 17:28.37 | vossi | well to see my item and spell cooldowns |
| 17:28.41 | vossi | basically what coolDown does |
| 17:29.16 | Pkekyo| | I highly doubt it was opera, and as you're unsourced, all I have to say is that if the milk is sour, I'm not the kind of pussy to drink it |
| 17:29.43 | Matrix110| | could be that it wasnt Opera although i thought it was |
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| 17:33.13 | cncfanatics | <3 |
| 17:33.17 | cncfanatics | I can play swkotor2 with wine |
| 17:35.40 | Pkekyo| | meh, for some reason, I never liked kotor |
| 17:35.56 | Bruners | do animal boss in kara drop badge? |
| 17:36.02 | Codayus | No |
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| 17:36.40 | Ultimaex | Hello |
| 17:37.38 | Ultimaex | I found out that the documentation dont really helps me so i try to find answers here if its ok :) |
| 17:38.46 | Pkekyo| | ~asktoask |
| 17:38.47 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 17:39.28 | Ultimaex | ok its just a small question is there someone who can help me? |
| 17:39.55 | vossi | just ask for crying out loud |
| 17:40.03 | Pkekyo| | ~asktoask |
| 17:40.04 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:40.08 | Pkekyo| | how many times do I have to do that? :p |
| 17:41.23 | Pkekyo| | Ultimaex: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they will tell you |
| 17:42.10 | Ultimaex | ok thanks |
| 17:43.16 | Ultimaex | i want to write an addon that writes a text each xxx seconds to make the server save my location ect. |
| 17:43.57 | Ultimaex | its becauase the server crashes often and .save lets make the server save |
| 17:44.37 | Ultimaex | i read some tutorials and documentation but that didnt helped me |
| 17:45.03 | Ultimaex | i need to make a loop function... how is that possible? |
| 17:45.44 | Ultimaex | and i need to write in public chat |
| 17:46.05 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58415 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua GatherMate.lua): bunch of changes, minimap is not really working right now |
| 17:46.08 | cncfanatics | eh, the server save your location ? |
| 17:46.13 | cncfanatics | the server always saves your location |
| 17:46.26 | JoshBork1 | Ultimaex: what server save? |
| 17:47.35 | cncfanatics | Ultimaex, are you working on a private server ? I guess so |
| 17:47.38 | Ultimaex | if you type .save in the chat the server saves your location, items, exp etc |
| 17:47.49 | cncfanatics | private server, as I though |
| 17:47.53 | JoshBork1 | Ultimaex: that feature isn't available in the default wow |
| 17:48.12 | Ultimaex | and if the server crahes and you didnt saved it looses up to 5 miin information |
| 17:48.22 | cncfanatics | Ultimaex: you would want to run some code every OnUpdate(); |
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| 17:48.35 | JoshBork1 | Ultimaex: i could help but i won't support private servers |
| 17:48.43 | cncfanatics | JoshBork1: does it matter ? |
| 17:48.54 | Ultimaex | oh i understand |
| 17:48.58 | JoshBork1 | not really, i just want an excuse to not help :-D |
| 17:49.00 | Ultimaex | its my own project |
| 17:49.21 | Ultimaex | its a sandbox atm |
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| 17:50.01 | Ultimaex | i have avery low server atm and it cant handle lagfree saves atm |
| 17:50.09 | Ultimaex | :( |
| 17:54.54 | Fisker- | Anyone in here taking magtheridon as well? |
| 17:55.08 | Hjalte | Ultimaex: The blizzard servers does everything, go play on them ;) |
| 17:55.25 | Fisker- | my spidey-sense is tingling |
| 17:56.10 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r58416 10Nauticus/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:56.10 | CIA-4 | Nauticus: |
| 17:56.10 | CIA-4 | - use shorter temp bar title on button click |
| 17:56.10 | CIA-4 | - better looking text <-> text arrow |
| 17:56.10 | CIA-4 | - redo bar status icons |
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| 18:01.57 | Ultimaex | how can i write in Text? |
| 18:02.01 | JoshBork1 | bigzero: ping |
| 18:02.07 | JoshBork1 | wait, wrong person |
| 18:02.11 | JoshBork1 | Xinhuan: ping |
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| 18:03.18 | mjc | any pally tanks around? I'm considering switching my 32 pally to prot for levelling.. wondering if that's a good idea |
| 18:03.37 | [dRaCo] | prot is fun for aoe grinding |
| 18:04.14 | mjc | is it worth bothering with this early on? |
| 18:04.26 | JoshBork1 | not really |
| 18:04.51 | mjc | retadin at the moment |
| 18:04.56 | Estil | I would not start grinding as prot until you hit outlands |
| 18:04.59 | Estil | and gather some defense/spelldmg gear |
| 18:05.02 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r58417 10Nauticus/ (Artwork/Docked.blp NautCore.lua): |
| 18:05.02 | CIA-4 | Nauticus: |
| 18:05.03 | CIA-4 | - add new intermediate icon for docking status (30->60 secs) |
| 18:05.03 | CIA-4 | - add options to change map icon sizes |
| 18:05.04 | Estil | stay with ret in azeroth |
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| 18:07.21 | Hjalte | Does attack power affect my wand shots? |
| 18:07.46 | exor|zzz | why does LittleWigs Black Morass keep breaking |
| 18:09.05 | xyu | works for me. |
| 18:09.12 | xyu | just be sure to mouse-over medivh |
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| 18:10.05 | cncfanatics | back, yo all |
| 18:10.21 | Fisker- | yes |
| 18:10.22 | Fisker- | 1-0 |
| 18:10.38 | cncfanatics | 1-0 what ? |
| 18:10.56 | Fisker- | someone wanted a good horde tactic for AV |
| 18:11.09 | Fisker- | Told them to follow the same tactic as the alliance |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker- | http://i7.tinypic.com/7xvqsdc.jpg |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:11.19 | Fisker- | i.e. obvious trolling |
| 18:13.20 | Pkekyo| | blizzed fucked up AV? |
| 18:13.50 | cncfanatics | not rly |
| 18:13.53 | cncfanatics | AV is fine for non idiots |
| 18:14.07 | xyu | lol |
| 18:14.18 | xyu | are alliance losing on every server? |
| 18:14.32 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 18:14.35 | cncfanatics | its 50/50 on mine |
| 18:14.37 | Cryect | Well since they don't really let you queue as a group its hard to be in with non idiots (though the queuing all at the same time in general works of course) |
| 18:14.39 | Fisker- | cncfanatics yeah non-idiots |
| 18:14.42 | Fisker- | i.e. NON-PUGS |
| 18:14.45 | Pkekyo| | alliance sucks frozen donkeyballs in AV in my battlegroup atleast |
| 18:14.52 | Fisker- | and yeah they did fuck up AV |
| 18:14.52 | xyu | yeah same |
| 18:14.55 | Pkekyo| | but horde can't win for shit in WSG or AB |
| 18:14.55 | xyu | we win everyone |
| 18:14.56 | xyu | 100% |
| 18:15.02 | xyu | they get 0 bonus honor |
| 18:15.07 | Fisker- | and non-idiots require the other side to be idiots regardless |
| 18:15.31 | Fisker- | i'll wager my life that Alliance will win any and all fights in an equal premade vs. premade |
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| 18:15.46 | xyu | in which BG? |
| 18:15.52 | xyu | WSG is the only one that matters :P |
| 18:15.53 | vossi | due to geographical advantages i guess |
| 18:16.08 | Fisker- | AV |
| 18:16.32 | xyu | Yeah i don't understand alliance pugs, why don't they defend SP chokepoint? |
| 18:16.38 | xyu | throw down like 10 or 15 guys there. |
| 18:16.40 | xyu | so easy to defend |
| 18:16.47 | xyu | can shoot through that hill and everything |
| 18:16.53 | Cryect | Alliance PUGs do defend SP Chokepoint |
| 18:16.57 | Cryect | or they have on the servers I've been on |
| 18:17.01 | Fisker- | haven't seen one here yet |
| 18:17.06 | Fisker- | and they still win a lot of themn |
| 18:17.07 | Fisker- | them |
| 18:17.17 | xyu | it's not as good as hordes chokepoint though, in my opinion. Hordes has those archers right at it. |
| 18:17.20 | Cryect | Just like I never understood why Horde don't defend Iceblood since from my experience every game where Horde defended Iceblood they won completely |
| 18:17.28 | Fisker- | but i just skip the AV daily now |
| 18:17.32 | Fisker- | so i don't play anymore |
| 18:17.36 | cncfanatics | Fisker-; premade vs premade is pretty fair tbh |
| 18:17.42 | xyu | our horde AV's horde stand at iceblood tower |
| 18:18.39 | Fisker- | how can we defend iceblood when they've like doubled or tripled the HP on balinda? |
| 18:19.06 | rubik | duh.. everyone skips AV daily |
| 18:19.16 | rubik | 2 hour queues are not worth waiting around |
| 18:19.22 | [Ammo] | 10 second AV queues ftw |
| 18:19.22 | Cryect | balinda is a joke what does it matter what the HP is? |
| 18:19.28 | Fisker- | we got instant queues here |
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| 18:19.38 | xyu | we have 1 hour AV queues |
| 18:19.47 | rubik | sigh.. no such luck here.. 1.5-2 hrs |
| 18:19.56 | xyu | but i just do other BG's while it's up |
| 18:19.58 | [Ammo] | AV = where you always queue to get honor |
| 18:20.00 | Fisker- | she might be a joke, but the alliance can EASILY defend her now |
| 18:20.00 | xyu | or run a heroic slavepens :P |
| 18:20.04 | [Ammo] | more honor per hour in AV then anywhere else |
| 18:20.12 | Fisker- | because she's not killed in 20 seconds like galvangar |
| 18:20.13 | rubik | used to be 5-10 minutes before alliance stopped queuing with 2.3 or whatever |
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| 18:20.35 | Cryect | Then skip her and go onto something else if they want to defend her |
| 18:20.36 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58418 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: updates to minimap |
| 18:20.37 | xyu | our alliance don't defend her |
| 18:20.42 | Cryect | its not like you have to kill her |
| 18:20.55 | Fisker- | for honor yeah |
| 18:21.18 | Fisker- | also it's not as much defending as it is a couple of people running in blasting away, locking people out of healing and so forth |
| 18:21.27 | Fisker- | which can easily be done because it's on the way anyways |
| 18:22.17 | Cryect | You need people healing on Balinda? |
| 18:22.38 | Fisker- | if other alliance runs around killing people, then yet |
| 18:22.39 | Fisker- | yes |
| 18:22.50 | cncfanatics | you're usualy 10 on balinda |
| 18:22.56 | cncfanatics | just focus fire the idiot alliance ? |
| 18:23.01 | Cryect | Have people learn how to PvP and kill the alliance first if you so want to kill balinda |
| 18:23.05 | Fisker- | i repeat, pugs |
| 18:23.09 | Cryect | I mean why would you complain about PvP in a PvP BG |
| 18:23.26 | Fisker- | why should our team "learn how to pvp" when it's not a requirement for the other team? |
| 18:23.28 | Cryect | my complaints about AV is the lack of PvP always :-p |
| 18:23.31 | Fisker- | Just rush galv, rush base, win |
| 18:23.59 | Fisker- | rush ballinda, use 2-3 times more than the alliance does, get fucked over by a good geographical advantage |
| 18:24.39 | [Ammo] | it's different per battlegroup |
| 18:24.50 | rubik | i'm still unclear which side you think AV is biased towards, Fisker-.. heh |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker- | alliance |
| 18:25.08 | Fisker- | and it is |
| 18:25.13 | Cryect | I think he was being sarcastic |
| 18:25.25 | [Ammo] | naah he hasn't tried alliance av yet :) |
| 18:25.35 | rubik | yeah.. some battlegroups like US Bloodlust, with AV queues at 2+ hrs, games just don't even happen.. heh |
| 18:25.38 | Fisker- | i have |
| 18:25.41 | [Ammo] | try engaging galv before belinda, horde is always first there |
| 18:25.53 | Fisker- | so what? |
| 18:25.54 | Keias | the 2 hour queues aren't so bad |
| 18:25.55 | [Ammo] | and kills belinda before galv dies (unless there is some defening on any side) |
| 18:26.01 | Keias | I just do an instance and port into AV after the end :D |
| 18:26.08 | rubik | horde doesn't go to belinda on our bg group.. we go to galv to defend |
| 18:26.13 | Fisker- | and now we kill balinda way after you kill galv |
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| 18:26.27 | [Ammo] | belinda dies before galv 90% of the time here |
| 18:26.36 | [Ammo] | since horde can engage 15-20 seconds earlier |
| 18:26.39 | Cryect | They really should hvae just fixed belinda's abilities instead of changing her HP |
| 18:26.41 | rubik | weird.. horde plays no defense there at all then? |
| 18:26.41 | [Ammo] | due to starting halfway across the map |
| 18:26.45 | Fisker- | but killing balinda pre-buff still didn't stop you from winning a lot of games |
| 18:26.45 | Cryect | but that would require actual effort |
| 18:26.55 | Keias | I don't see why it matters which dies first |
| 18:27.01 | [Ammo] | it matters |
| 18:27.04 | Fisker- | [Ammo] perhaps with people who know to play and alliance who doesn't know to play |
| 18:27.04 | [Ammo] | because of the buff |
| 18:27.05 | Keias | It's not like the games are ever close enough for 30-60 seconds to make a difference |
| 18:27.11 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: I know how to play |
| 18:27.25 | [Ammo] | and I can't engage galv before horde does on my pala with crusader etc |
| 18:27.30 | [Ammo] | I just can't make it in time |
| 18:27.55 | Fisker- | and you have your own time-saving advantages after balinda that we don't |
| 18:28.27 | [Ammo] | wins/losses are approx 50/50 in our battlegroup |
| 18:28.27 | Fisker- | But saying that a pug horde group can take balinda before an equal alliance pug group can take galvangar is just nuts |
| 18:28.29 | [Ammo] | which is just fine |
| 18:28.48 | Fisker- | based on what data? |
| 18:28.59 | [Ammo] | based on playing hundreds of games? |
| 18:29.13 | Fisker- | you've played hundreds of games in less than a week? |
| 18:29.14 | Fisker- | wow |
| 18:29.24 | [Ammo] | no |
| 18:29.29 | [Ammo] | but it hasn't changed |
| 18:29.48 | Fisker- | so you're actually saying it was balanced before |
| 18:29.52 | Fisker- | i agree |
| 18:29.57 | cncfanatics | it didn't change ? |
| 18:29.58 | [Ammo] | it's still balanced |
| 18:29.59 | Fisker- | well atleast as much as band-aiding covers it |
| 18:30.01 | Fisker- | no it's not |
| 18:30.03 | Fisker- | it's changed |
| 18:30.12 | [Ammo] | nothing changed |
| 18:30.23 | Fisker- | balinda and vanndar was buffed in HP |
| 18:31.02 | rubik | changed, unchanged, i simply wish alliance queued up in our battlegroup.. but when they win eots/wsg 90% with premades instead, they don't bother |
| 18:31.34 | Fisker- | i'll definitely agree that alliance have their share of issues, but it did seem somewhat balanced pre 2.3.2, before the total AV revamp, AV was hell for the horde |
| 18:31.57 | Fisker- | But as far as bandaid fixes are concerned this buff was unnessecary and it was "fine" they way it was before |
| 18:32.00 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics 07Ace3 * r58419 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (24 files in 11 dirs): FlexBar2: Clear the branch for a partial rewrite |
| 18:32.13 | rubik | been forgetting to ask.. what is arena points cap? 5000? |
| 18:32.26 | Fisker- | yup |
| 18:32.29 | [Ammo] | I haven't even noticed the Hp buff |
| 18:32.37 | [Ammo] | so it must be below 10% |
| 18:32.39 | [Ammo] | which is nothing |
| 18:32.46 | rubik | cool.. gotta spend them then |
| 18:33.06 | Fisker- | either i've hit an unlucky streak of av's or it's definitely a lot more than 10% |
| 18:33.13 | Fisker- | 10% = 20k hp |
| 18:33.25 | [Ammo] | whch is nothing |
| 18:33.29 | [Ammo] | 2 seconds extra time |
| 18:33.30 | Fisker- | yes |
| 18:33.34 | Fisker- | but it's not true either |
| 18:33.44 | [Ammo] | boggle/ |
| 18:33.59 | Fisker- | because if it were to balance the time needed for the alliance to reach galvangar then it would be atleast a 100% increase |
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| 18:35.40 | Fisker- | i don't know why though but mobhealth is unable to reach an estimate |
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| 18:42.53 | CIA-4 | 03xbeeps * r58421 10/branches/LibHealComm-3.0/ (LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua LibHealComm-3.0.toc): |
| 18:42.53 | CIA-4 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 18:42.53 | CIA-4 | - Not LoD when standalone (it has a function even if not used by any local addons). |
| 18:42.53 | CIA-4 | - Added support for Totem of Spontaneous Regrowth. |
| 18:42.53 | CIA-4 | - Fix bug in UNIT_SPELLCAST_DELAYED handler when event was triggered for the player. |
| 18:43.16 | cncfanatics | are there some "starter" docs available for Ace3 ? |
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| 18:46.37 | JoshBork1 | cncfanatics: not really, what's up? |
| 18:47.29 | cncfanatics | gonna start FB2 rewrite to ace3 |
| 18:47.32 | cncfanatics | in branches ofc |
| 18:47.57 | CIA-4 | 03shen * r58422 10/branches/SpamSentry/ (core.lua locale-enUS.lua options.lua): SpamSentry: Added emote channel to monitored channels |
| 18:48.36 | JoshBork1 | the AceConfig3 wikipage describes the generic ace config-3.0 format |
| 18:49.13 | cncfanatics | not doing gui first :p |
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| 18:49.18 | cncfanatics | and I won't be using config tables either way |
| 18:49.30 | JoshBork1 | then it's basically like ace2 |
| 18:49.36 | cncfanatics | what I'd mainly like to know atm is correct paths for externals, and how to just setup a basic Ace3 addon |
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| 18:50.08 | JoshBork1 | oh, i develop against beta which is at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta/ |
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| 18:50.29 | cncfanatics | thats a standalone addon though ? or libs ? |
| 18:50.36 | cncfanatics | looks like a standalone to me |
| 18:50.58 | eo_arch | Hi eyeryone. |
| 18:51.20 | cncfanatics | ok, first thing I need in libs is LibStub I supose ? JoshBork1 |
| 18:51.24 | Ultimaex | can someone tell me how i can tell something in public chat? i found out that i can display something for me, but how is that possible to public chat? |
| 18:51.37 | eo_arch | Does anyone know, if there happens to be an addon to quickly set a healer-setup? |
| 18:51.44 | JoshBork1 | cncfanatics: the Ace3 modules can all be used standalone (or with only 1 or 2 dependencies) |
| 18:51.52 | JoshBork1 | cncfanatics: check out RaidCast or ag_UF |
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| 18:54.17 | eo_arch | Could you explain that a little further, Ultimaex? |
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| 18:57.45 | cncfanatics | eo_arch, I supose he doesn't want to print something in chatbox |
| 18:57.49 | cncfanatics | but wants to say it in /say |
| 18:58.58 | eo_arch | I see. |
| 19:00.04 | eo_arch | Hm so there is no addon that could do me that favour? Like...selecting a tank and then some healers and the next tank and some more healers, push a button and the whole thing pops up in the raidchat? |
| 19:00.17 | cncfanatics | AceAddon-3.0 = module support ? |
| 19:03.11 | [Liquidor] | eo_arch, plenty |
| 19:03.35 | eo_arch | Care to share a name? :) |
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| 19:04.17 | [Liquidor] | http://www.curse.com / http://www.wowinterface.com ... |
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| 19:04.48 | eo_arch | Yupp that's helpful... *sigh* |
| 19:05.02 | vossi | HealOrganizer does something quite similar |
| 19:05.09 | eo_arch | Thanks a lot. :) |
| 19:05.13 | vossi | enter tank name at the top - drag and drop healers in |
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| 19:13.15 | cncfanatics | is there a function in AceConsole-3.0 to format name=value name2=value2 formatted strings and put them into a table ? |
| 19:13.23 | cncfanatics | or only for the value1 value2 value3 format ? |
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| 19:17.57 | cncfanatics | uuuh, I have a question about AceDB-3.0, won't it conflict with AceDB-2.0 as they have the same variable name ? |
| 19:18.35 | cncfanatics | someone ? ... |
| 19:18.55 | vossi | I'd answer if i had a clue |
| 19:21.37 | RaydenUni | armory down? |
| 19:21.44 | Pkekyo| | can I get excel to add up several 'cells' without having to type the number of each one into a bloody formula? |
| 19:21.54 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo| are they continuous cells? |
| 19:22.08 | RaydenUni | if so sum(*click first cell* *click 2nd cell*) |
| 19:22.15 | RaydenUni | er =sum(...) |
| 19:22.24 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: they'll be below eachother |
| 19:22.28 | RaydenUni | that's fine |
| 19:22.34 | Pkekyo| | how to do it? |
| 19:22.50 | RaydenUni | click on the cell and type "=sum(" then click on the first and last cell, then end the ) |
| 19:22.58 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 19:23.13 | Pkekyo| | should I mark them all, or just the upper and lower one? |
| 19:23.45 | RaydenUni | just the first and last |
| 19:23.47 | RaydenUni | i think |
| 19:23.47 | RaydenUni | try it |
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| 19:24.34 | RaydenUni | you have to shift click |
| 19:24.44 | RaydenUni | or crag |
| 19:24.45 | RaydenUni | drag |
| 19:24.47 | RaydenUni | so select them all |
| 19:24.48 | Pkekyo| | mark'em all |
| 19:24.50 | Sais | shift-click last if you want the range, no? ctrl-click if you want individual sum |
| 19:24.51 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 19:24.52 | Pkekyo| | thanks RaydenUni |
| 19:25.05 | RaydenUni | works on "area" too |
| 19:25.15 | RaydenUni | yeah i use it all the time |
| 19:25.24 | RaydenUni | not sure excel would be useful to me without it |
| 19:25.42 | Pkekyo| | trying to make a spreadsheat to know what to farm to level engi :p |
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| 19:25.50 | Xinhuan | ... baron mount dropped. |
| 19:25.52 | Xinhuan | fuck |
| 19:25.57 | SleepyKivin | o.o |
| 19:25.57 | RaydenUni | i made one to keep track of what i put in and took out of my guild bank |
| 19:25.59 | snurre | hmmm.. wonder if i should start playing wow again.. |
| 19:26.00 | cncfanatic1 | baron mount ? :o |
| 19:26.04 | xyu | and you rolled 4 |
| 19:26.09 | xyu | yeah guy in strat |
| 19:26.12 | RaydenUni | so i wouldn't feel guilty taking 8 large prismatic shards all at once :D |
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| 19:26.29 | Xinhuan | "i'm bored. lets do baron. no, no healer. ask sany. i dont' want. sany lend us account to heal. ok" |
| 19:26.30 | bigzero | Xinhuan didn't win it me thinks |
| 19:26.34 | RaydenUni | now where did my shadowpriest dps excel sheet go |
| 19:26.42 | Xinhuan | 10 min later "if the mount drops i'm going to kill myself" |
| 19:26.46 | Xinhuan | 20 min later "wtf" |
| 19:27.01 | snurre | lol |
| 19:27.06 | bigzero | Xinhuan = sany? |
| 19:27.12 | Xinhuan | no, just a friend |
| 19:27.21 | snurre | a coworker of mine ninjad two baron mounts back in the days :p |
| 19:27.25 | xyu | I was 5 minutes from my 1.5 hour AV queue |
| 19:27.29 | xyu | and my server crashed qq |
| 19:27.40 | bigzero | cncfanatic1, what AceDB variable were you talking about? |
| 19:27.41 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 19:27.44 | RaydenUni | that sucks xyu |
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| 19:28.00 | cncfanatic1 | the AceDB variable itself |
| 19:28.04 | Pkekyo| | I wish I didn't fail at making spreadsheets :p |
| 19:28.05 | cncfanatic1 | seems its the same for AceDB-2.0 & 3.0 ? |
| 19:28.07 | bigzero | cncfanatic1, that's a local |
| 19:28.20 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo| it's a skill that will win you respect and women |
| 19:28.28 | cncfanatic1 | ah idd |
| 19:29.16 | CIA-4 | 03pb_ee1 * r58423 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: The profiler will now display a "scan complete" message on the first successful scan of each tradeskill. |
| 19:29.19 | bigzero | RaydenUni speaks the truth |
| 19:29.46 | RaydenUni | lo |
| 19:29.47 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 19:30.06 | RaydenUni | this shadow priest spreadsheet for calculating your theoretical dps has an option for "Trinket Macro Usage: VT, SWP?" |
| 19:30.07 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 19:30.09 | RaydenUni | which is what i do |
| 19:30.12 | Pkekyo| | I'll get to work on it then :p |
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| 19:30.37 | RaydenUni | it says i should be doing 850 dps |
| 19:30.42 | RaydenUni | and i need more hit again |
| 19:31.02 | RaydenUni | guess i'll put a 5th point into shadow focus |
| 19:31.28 | bigzero | ummm, quick question for those raiding Hyjal, BT, etc. What's the mage dps in there on average (on a boss fight) |
| 19:31.38 | RaydenUni | nifty, i should be doing 213MP5 per group member and 1063 HP5 per group member |
| 19:31.53 | RaydenUni | how does 717 threat generation sound for a shadowpriest? |
| 19:32.11 | cncfanatic1 | per second ? |
| 19:32.12 | cncfanatic1 | just fine |
| 19:32.36 | RaydenUni | says max possible threat generation 1249 |
| 19:33.18 | cncfanatic1 | gear lvl ? |
| 19:33.38 | RaydenUni | bigzero http://wowwebstats.com/ureiyepw3ibqy?s=8602-9395 |
| 19:33.42 | RaydenUni | maybe browse around there? |
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| 19:35.03 | xyu | bigzero: mage dps on a stand and cast fight (for me) we just started BT is around 1400 |
| 19:35.28 | cncfanatic1 | whats rogue dps ? |
| 19:36.02 | xyu | It's higher than mage i'd imagine |
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| 19:36.18 | xyu | our raids usually go Warlocks, Rogues, Mages for boss. hunters are sometimes thrown in there too. |
| 19:36.21 | xyu | but that's just us ^^ |
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| 19:36.49 | xyu | We did have mages win spots 1 2 and 3 on Teron Gorefiend 2 nights ago |
| 19:36.58 | xyu | but that's a mage fight if you ask me :D |
| 19:37.20 | xyu | we don't get too much pushback from the aoe (fire talent) and we can just unload. |
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| 19:39.06 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r58424 10Nauticus/ (NautCore.lua Nauticus.toc changes.txt): Nauticus: bump version for package release |
| 19:40.28 | [SW]Dodge | can anyone recommend an addon for exp tracking? :) |
| 19:40.46 | SleepyKivin | exp tracking in what manner? |
| 19:41.25 | [SW]Dodge | exp to lvl up, time to lvl up, xp/hr |
| 19:41.48 | Kivin | TitanPanel has a good XP meter. |
| 19:41.53 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 19:42.00 | Kivin | Yes, yes it does |
| 19:42.02 | [SW]Dodge | im using fubar ^^ |
| 19:42.07 | Kivin | *shrug* dunno |
| 19:42.07 | Arrowmaster | it cant be good if its for titan |
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| 19:42.26 | Kivin | I personally use a text-based xp meter that lives in my chat console |
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| 19:42.35 | Arrowmaster | [SW]Dodge: ExperienceFu |
| 19:43.07 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics 07Ace3 * r58425 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Set externals |
| 19:43.16 | [SW]Dodge | ty, ill try it :) |
| 19:43.45 | bigzero | xyu, thanks. doing ~970 atm, but I only have like 3 items from kara+, so i think i'm not too terrible |
| 19:49.22 | cncfanatic1 | damn, rewriting stuff from scratch takes ages |
| 19:49.25 | cncfanatic1 | Ace3 is confusing imo |
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| 19:49.45 | xyu | what spec? |
| 19:49.54 | xyu | have you tried icy veins yet? i really like it |
| 19:50.51 | cncfanatics | Icy veins is getting put in firespecs cuz it owns :p |
| 19:51.54 | kenlyric | icy veins in every single mage spec. |
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| 19:54.14 | cncfanatics | oh god |
| 19:54.15 | cncfanatics | this sucks |
| 19:54.18 | cncfanatics | files not getting loaded |
| 19:54.21 | cncfanatics | I hate such errors |
| 19:54.55 | exor|zzz | you have to do a fullclient quit after editingg .toc files |
| 19:55.54 | RaydenUni | <cncfanatics> I hate such errors <-- you could not get an error :P |
| 19:55.58 | RaydenUni | just wouldn't work |
| 19:56.08 | RaydenUni | copper ore? |
| 19:56.27 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, you'll get an error of some variables not existing most probably |
| 19:56.29 | cncfanatics | which is what I get |
| 19:56.57 | cncfanatics | think I found the error |
| 19:57.00 | cncfanatics | WoW wants backslashes |
| 19:57.05 | cncfanatics | instead of the g'old frontslashes i'm used to |
| 19:57.51 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: yes, copper ore /shrug |
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| 20:00.16 | RaydenUni | for a low level character? or a 70? |
| 20:00.42 | RaydenUni | my 70 learned mining recently |
| 20:00.49 | RaydenUni | it was annoying going through and mining everything |
| 20:01.04 | RaydenUni | my 35 druid right now is way behind on his herbalism and skinning |
| 20:01.09 | RaydenUni | i really should catch that up sooner rather than later |
| 20:01.38 | cncfanatics | catch up at 40 imo |
| 20:01.39 | cncfanatics | with mount |
| 20:01.49 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: lvl 70 char farming it, to level engineering on a lowlevel char |
| 20:01.53 | cncfanatics | btw, whats the best horde class for mage pvp these days ? |
| 20:02.08 | Kivin | the what? |
| 20:02.16 | Pkekyo| | what's the name of the cartographer plugin that gives you the best routes to farm [defined mineral/herb]? |
| 20:02.25 | ulic | cart_routes :) |
| 20:02.29 | RaydenUni | cncfanatics i picked blood elf |
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| 20:02.36 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni: why did you ? :) |
| 20:02.37 | RaydenUni | but partly because i wanted to do eversong woods |
| 20:02.42 | RaydenUni | more mana? |
| 20:02.44 | RaydenUni | mana tap |
| 20:02.48 | RaydenUni | that's about it |
| 20:02.52 | RaydenUni | more int i meant |
| 20:03.00 | cncfanatics | hmmm, troll looks nice |
| 20:03.00 | Kivin | Undead > PVP race, period |
| 20:03.02 | cncfanatics | more dps |
| 20:03.06 | RaydenUni | troll? |
| 20:03.06 | Pkekyo| | wtf, somehow routes got uninstalled |
| 20:03.07 | RaydenUni | for what? |
| 20:03.09 | cncfanatics | berserker |
| 20:03.15 | cncfanatics | casting speed ? |
| 20:03.15 | RaydenUni | i like trolls a lot, but i find their racials suck |
| 20:03.24 | cncfanatics | berserker with icy veins shld give a nice speed up tbh |
| 20:03.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.40 | Kivin | Undead = free HOT and break out of fears. yum. |
| 20:03.41 | RaydenUni | i should use berserk on my spriest |
| 20:03.45 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics 07Ace3 * r58426 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Fix externals, fix toc, fix embeds.xml |
| 20:04.04 | ulic | ckknigh1: do you know if anyone is working on the new readycheck icons in PitBull? |
| 20:04.14 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 20:04.16 | cncfanatics | the shortcut to use in files for the revision on svn is $Rev right ? |
| 20:04.24 | ckknight | $Rev$ |
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| 20:04.43 | ulic | ckknight: ok, I may take a stab at it if you aren't planning to in the near future. |
| 20:05.05 | cncfanatics | ckknight: ty |
| 20:05.56 | Kivin | in TSVN, it's $Revision$ |
| 20:06.05 | Kivin | and it has to be enabled in the config file |
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| 20:07.30 | Pkekyo| | does Cartographer_Routes provide waypoints for closest/next node? |
| 20:07.32 | RaydenUni | berserk doesn't seem to be a really useful spell for pve though. especially to get the 30% increase when you are damaged. if you have low life,increasing your cast speed means more threat and more damage |
| 20:07.41 | RaydenUni | for healing maybe |
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| 20:09.20 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics 07Ace3 * r58427 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc embeds.xml): FlexBar2: Add 3 files |
| 20:10.23 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceAddon-3.0 is empty ? boo |
| 20:11.21 | Pkekyo| | TSP ftw |
| 20:11.42 | mjc | TiSP > * |
| 20:11.51 | Pkekyo| | mjc huh? |
| 20:12.05 | mjc | http://www.google.com/tisp/ |
| 20:12.07 | cncfanatics | any docs on AceAddon-3.0 ? :) |
| 20:12.56 | Pkekyo| | ~ugt |
| 20:12.56 | purl | well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:14.31 | Pkekyo| | mjc: you don't know TSP? |
| 20:14.41 | mjc | I was being funny |
| 20:15.36 | Pkekyo| | not really :p |
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| 20:17.52 | Pkekyo| | cute attempt though, I'll grant you that |
| 20:18.09 | Pkekyo| | gah, I hate my piece of shit server...not a single guild between kara and hyjaal |
| 20:18.26 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to instant logout instead of waitin 20seconds? -.- |
| 20:18.42 | Pkekyo| | logout or quit? |
| 20:18.49 | cncfanatics | [SW]Dodge: killall -KILL WoW. |
| 20:18.58 | Polarina | [SW]Dodge: /run ForceQuit() |
| 20:19.12 | Pkekyo| | or just /console quit |
| 20:19.19 | [Ammo] | alt-f4 |
| 20:19.21 | cncfanatics | any mages around ? |
| 20:19.22 | [SW]Dodge | just logout not exit :D |
| 20:19.31 | [SW]Dodge | cncfanatics: here mage.... lvl 14 xD |
| 20:19.36 | cncfanatics | meh, 70 plx |
| 20:19.40 | cncfanatics | wondering if fire is viable for pvp now |
| 20:19.55 | CIA-4 | 03merl * r58428 10mHud/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:19.55 | CIA-4 | mHud: |
| 20:19.56 | CIA-4 | - Added: DogTag-2.0, Energy Ticker, Locked Value options |
| 20:22.41 | Zhinjio | Kaelten: ping |
| 20:22.47 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: I'm a mage |
| 20:22.51 | Kaelten | hi |
| 20:23.06 | Polarina | ckknight: Did you fix that Lua error? |
| 20:23.07 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: it's viable until you've popped your pom/pyro |
| 20:23.15 | *** join/#wowace Nives (n=Nives@agsb-4db0f546.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 20:23.15 | cncfanatics | I mean FIRE |
| 20:23.21 | cncfanatics | pom/pyro is an ARCANE spec |
| 20:23.55 | Pkekyo| | fire without pom? gl hf |
| 20:23.57 | Nives | hi, im using ag_unitframes and the raid frames are not filtering buffs correctly. can someony confirm this or is it my fault? :/ |
| 20:24.18 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: in other words, I don't have much faith in it |
| 20:24.38 | cncfanatics | well, firemages got iceblock now |
| 20:24.39 | cncfanatics | so why not ? |
| 20:24.49 | Ultimaex | Hello, can someone tell me how i can write some thing to public chat with an addon? |
| 20:24.52 | cncfanatics | imo an elemental build with deep fire & icy veins could put out good dps |
| 20:25.17 | cncfanatics | Umtimaex: one second |
| 20:25.21 | Pkekyo| | if you believe ice block was the only thing giving frost mages an upper hand in pvp, this conversation just ended |
| 20:25.29 | xyu | 2/48/11 is the new raiding spec |
| 20:26.17 | Pkekyo| | granted, fire mages got their survivability substancially boosted, but imo, it won't have that big of an impact |
| 20:26.38 | Pkekyo| | but if you're a good mage, and not just a 'good frost mage', you should do -fine- in pvp |
| 20:26.46 | FrostByghte | is there a mod that grey's out buttons on your button bar if a target has a debuff/dot applied to it that matches? |
| 20:26.51 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage Ultimaex, I just looked that up, why couldn't you do that yourself ? |
| 20:26.59 | Ultimaex | thanks |
| 20:27.04 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: I haven't played a mage in competitive pvp for over a year |
| 20:27.13 | cncfanatics | so enlight me :p |
| 20:27.15 | Pkekyo| | 32 copper ore /wrist |
| 20:27.21 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: stick to frost if you're gonna pvp then |
| 20:27.37 | Pkekyo| | it's simply easier |
| 20:27.46 | cncfanatics | who says I like the easy way ? |
| 20:28.07 | cncfanatics | well, I first need to reroll anyway |
| 20:28.11 | cncfanatics | that'll take a while already |
| 20:28.30 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: so basicly, you wanna faceroll on your keyboard and see how it works out? |
| 20:28.47 | cncfanatics | I have a 70 mage on a dead pve server |
| 20:28.50 | cncfanatics | no point playing him |
| 20:29.08 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 20:29.17 | Kivin | why not transfer to a not so dead server |
| 20:29.20 | Pkekyo| | well, I'd stick with frost |
| 20:29.24 | cncfanatics | because transfers cost money ? |
| 20:29.26 | cncfanatics | and rerolling just costs time |
| 20:29.35 | Kivin | time is a lot more valuable than money |
| 20:30.08 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 20:31.29 | Pkekyo| | I'd gladly spend some money to get a couple of extra hours a day :p |
| 20:33.25 | Kerafyrm | GO BOLTS! |
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| 20:34.00 | FrostByghte | is there a mod that grey's out buttons on your button bar if a target has a debuff/dot applied to it that matches? |
| 20:34.12 | durcyn | bongos can. |
| 20:34.21 | durcyn | it's blue though iirc |
| 20:34.34 | FrostByghte | ah...no luck for bartender though? |
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| 20:35.31 | cncfanatic1 | there we go |
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| 20:38.10 | cncfanatics | is it a bad sign when the PID of your apps go up to 100k+ ? :p |
| 20:38.49 | Kivin | Bad indeed. Armageddon is coming. Skynet is almost ready... |
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| 20:40.28 | mjc | can anyone recommend good pally addons? |
| 20:40.44 | mjc | pallypower doesn't seem to think I have any blessings heh |
| 20:40.49 | Kivin | pallypower works fine |
| 20:40.59 | Kivin | do you have greater blessings, yet? |
| 20:41.00 | [Ammo] | pallypower is shite on a stick |
| 20:41.07 | mjc | no, and I unchecked greater |
| 20:41.15 | Kivin | did you click "Refresh"? |
| 20:41.17 | mjc | yep |
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| 20:42.40 | mjc | [Ammo]: what would you suggest |
| 20:43.46 | [Ammo] | nothing good out atm |
| 20:43.58 | [Ammo] | guildies have been begging me to code something decent |
| 20:43.59 | Kivin | I've thought about writing my own, but just never got around to it |
| 20:44.02 | [Ammo] | but I shove the finger in their face :p |
| 20:44.05 | Kivin | Secure templates annoy the hell out of me |
| 20:44.18 | Pkekyo| | 70 copper ore /wrist |
| 20:44.20 | Xinhuan | haha, it turns out that i totall forgot i have a "soulcloth" set in my bank |
| 20:44.24 | Xinhuan | totally* |
| 20:44.26 | Pkekyo| | make the suffering end! /cry |
| 20:44.34 | Xinhuan | i can wear all 3 pieces to tank mage in coucil lolol |
| 20:44.52 | Xinhuan | and get more hp and ar without losing anything but some spell damage |
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| 20:47.39 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58429 10Deadened/Modules/Quartz.lua: Deadened: Don't run Quartz code if Target module is not enabled. |
| 20:47.46 | Antiarc | Gandharva: Ping |
| 20:48.24 | Polarina | ckknight: Did you fix that bug? |
| 20:50.04 | Stanzilla | no he did not |
| 20:51.39 | Xinhuan | ok, if a rogue with a warglaith applies to my guild, what should i do? :o |
| 20:51.49 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Decline. |
| 20:52.14 | Pkekyo| | meh, wish it was possible to unlearn secondary professions |
| 20:52.21 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Or base it on his skills as a rogue (PvE, PvP) and ignore his gear. |
| 20:52.52 | Xinhuan | i was like ok.. another app |
| 20:52.55 | Xinhuan | click armory link |
| 20:52.58 | Xinhuan | WHOA |
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| 20:53.20 | Xinhuan | from Avant Garde |
| 20:53.28 | Hjalte | Does the -threat totem and salvation stack? |
| 20:53.41 | Xinhuan | yes, multiplicatively |
| 20:53.41 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 20:54.32 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: why would he want to applmy ? |
| 20:54.37 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 20:54.48 | Xinhuan | his rogue is on 240 days /played |
| 20:54.56 | Xinhuan | he is applying as a warlock that is bt/hyjal attuned |
| 20:54.56 | cncfanatics | and what kind of guild are you ? |
| 20:55.03 | Xinhuan | from his disbanded guild on another server |
| 20:55.15 | Xinhuan | so its really 2 separate apps |
| 20:55.23 | Chompers | grr |
| 20:55.36 | Xinhuan | either as a 4/5 t6 rogue or as a T5 lock that are attuned |
| 20:55.38 | Chompers | another player with an updated omen, but he doesnt register as using it |
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| 20:56.59 | Xinhuan | my guild is one boss away from illidan |
| 20:57.23 | Pkekyo| | my guild is just about 40 bosses away from illidan :< |
| 20:58.03 | Kivin | my kara has pretty much given up on killing prince, which i find extremely lame |
| 20:58.10 | cncfanatics | my guild is in kara, sigh |
| 20:58.10 | Xinhuan | bt = 9, hyjal = 5, tk = 4, ssc = 6, za = 6, kara = 11, mag = 1, gruul = 2 |
| 20:58.14 | Xinhuan | total 43 bosses! |
| 20:58.19 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, can I transfer to your server & get a spot in your guild ? :p |
| 20:58.34 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't work because i'm on a US server |
| 20:59.00 | cncfanatics | shhh, supose I'm US for a sec |
| 20:59.18 | Xinhuan | i would only recruit you if you're a holy paladin :D |
| 20:59.18 | vossi | we're at the same spot but EU |
| 20:59.35 | vossi | well .. we are at Illidan |
| 20:59.47 | vossi | so exciting =) |
| 20:59.51 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 20:59.54 | cncfanatics | WTB :( |
| 21:00.09 | vossi | hunter/resto shaman/holy pala - come over and have fun :p |
| 21:00.17 | nevcairiel | we're gimping at illidan again, stupid priests failed at healing phase2 ... |
| 21:00.36 | Kerafyrm | damnit |
| 21:00.41 | Stanzilla | illidan is easy once you manage phase2 |
| 21:00.47 | nevcairiel | yeah we generally do |
| 21:00.49 | vossi | ye we are having some issues |
| 21:00.54 | nevcairiel | but today our raid healing sucks :P |
| 21:00.56 | vossi | stupid eye beam path is so huge .. and doesnt look like |
| 21:01.02 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 21:01.06 | cncfanatics | vossi: me is a rogue :p |
| 21:01.12 | Gnarfoz | rogue t5 gloves or al'ar gloves |
| 21:01.32 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, I do have a paladin though, a lvl 70 one :p |
| 21:01.36 | cncfanatics | vossi, pve or pvp server ? |
| 21:01.41 | vossi | pve |
| 21:01.52 | cncfanatics | my paladin is prot atm |
| 21:01.54 | vossi | can one post links in here without getting a ban? |
| 21:01.59 | cncfanatics | yea ofc |
| 21:02.11 | cncfanatics | vossi, would you even consider a blue geared holy pala ? :p |
| 21:02.12 | vossi | www.shadowsofdoom.com - char name is chuck tho |
| 21:02.20 | vossi | a bt attuned one :p |
| 21:02.30 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 21:03.20 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58430 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): Minimap now works, lots of optimizations are needed for performance |
| 21:04.48 | Aens|Superiority | priests are having trouble phase 2? There isn't much they have to do besides heal the barrage target. The resto shamans should be doing the brunt of the healing. |
| 21:05.26 | vossi | standing infront illidari council finding out no gear brought sta gear :D |
| 21:05.28 | vossi | priceless |
| 21:06.35 | vossi | and with gear i mean mage |
| 21:06.36 | vossi | geez .. |
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| 21:07.26 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58431 10Deadened/ (Deadened.lua Deadened.toc Libs/): Deadened: Added Sink support. Can now route messages for suppressed spells through any Sink-supported interface (Chat frame, Parrot, SCT, Raid Warning, etc etc etc) |
| 21:07.59 | Pkekyo| | hms...1-300 engineering really doesn't require that much mats |
| 21:08.51 | Gnarfoz | Hmm |
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| 21:13.35 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 21:13.35 | purl | It is now 2008.01.13 21:13:35 GMT |
| 21:14.15 | Gnarfoz | Rogue Gloves: Al'ar or T5? Antiarc? Daemona? unleash your wisdom ;) |
| 21:14.26 | Antiarc | T5 are really damn hot |
| 21:15.24 | Pkekyo| | is there an addon made to keep track of farming? |
| 21:15.26 | Gnarfoz | they are, indeed, but +18 ER is also something |
| 21:15.32 | Antiarc | Lemme look up the Searing Grip real quick |
| 21:15.43 | [Ammo] | do use effect from trinkets that give +spelldamage work on ticks from a dot taht is runnign prior to usage of said trinket? |
| 21:15.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:15.53 | Antiarc | Someone remind me what the expertise conversion rate is |
| 21:16.09 | Antiarc | 3.9 per, that's right |
| 21:16.13 | Pkekyo| | ~expertise |
| 21:16.23 | Arrowmaster | the +spelldamage that effects all dot ticks is the +dmg when the spell is cast |
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| 21:16.55 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I figured as much |
| 21:16.58 | [Ammo] | just doublechckecing |
| 21:17.28 | Antiarc | 99 AP/0.83% crit/1.17% dodge mitigation vs 106 AP/0.9% crit/1.52% hit |
| 21:17.49 | Antiarc | I'd be tempted to say the T5 are slightly better |
| 21:17.50 | Kivin | the latter looks better |
| 21:18.37 | Antiarc | Since about 65% of your damage is whiy, 1.52% hit is approximately equal to 0.98% dodge mitigation |
| 21:18.57 | Antiarc | So you pick up 0.19% dodge mitigation, lose 7 AP and 0.7% crit |
| 21:19.12 | Antiarc | They're really close, but I think I'd go with the T5 |
| 21:19.13 | Kivin | in a sec, i can run the numbers against elitistjerk's scales |
| 21:19.19 | Antiarc | If you factor in set bonuses, the T5 is a clear win |
| 21:19.25 | Kerafyrm | oh that was an awesome game |
| 21:19.39 | kenlyric | Kerafyrm: /tears |
| 21:19.53 | Kivin | what ar ethe exact item names? |
| 21:20.07 | Antiarc | Deathmantle Gloves vs Gloves of the Searing Grip |
| 21:20.11 | Antiarc | Err |
| 21:20.14 | Antiarc | Deathmantle Handguards |
| 21:20.22 | Kivin | sigh, wowhead being flakey |
| 21:20.42 | Daemona | just get aldriana's rogue gear spreadsheet from EJ |
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| 21:21.23 | Kivin | Tier5 = 196.7 points of dps contribution |
| 21:21.54 | Kivin | searing grip = 177. |
| 21:21.58 | Gandharva | Antiarc: I' currently at illidan. Give me a few minutes ^^ |
| 21:21.59 | Kivin | that's not modeling set bonuses |
| 21:22.09 | Antiarc | Gandharva: No rush |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58432 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-4 | - Word list updated. |
| 21:22.17 | CIA-4 | - Changes / corections to evidence gathering. |
| 21:22.21 | Kivin | Tier 5 are the clear winner |
| 21:25.08 | Antiarc | Mmm. I need to figure out T5 pants + T5 shoulders + T5 4pc vs Shoulderpads of the Stranger + Shady Dealer's Pantaloons |
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| 21:25.39 | Antiarc | I suspect Shady Dealer's a probably a good bet with Serrated Blades. |
| 21:25.46 | Pkekyo| | any good addons to keep track of farming? |
| 21:27.37 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: seems if I use trinket after applying the dot the ticks get higher and then lower again when trinket runs out |
| 21:27.41 | Aens|Superiority | ugh |
| 21:27.42 | [Ammo] | seems it calculates each tick |
| 21:27.45 | Aens|Superiority | shady dealer has yet to drop for us |
| 21:27.47 | [Ammo] | same for dewm |
| 21:27.52 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt |
| 21:27.57 | Aens|Superiority | after like 5 months of killing him |
| 21:28.02 | Arrowmaster | since they specificly changed it so it didnt anymore |
| 21:28.08 | [Ammo] | yeah I thought so too |
| 21:28.11 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 21:28.25 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if its a result of the lifebloom bugfix |
| 21:28.44 | [Ammo] | could be |
| 21:28.49 | Arrowmaster | would make sense |
| 21:29.54 | [Ammo] | use trinket right before doom goes off -> more damage oto |
| 21:30.37 | Pkekyo| | FUCKING FINALLY! 154 copper ore! |
| 21:30.37 | Arrowmaster | hmm although it might have been changes prior to 2.3.2 |
| 21:30.56 | Arrowmaster | because i seem to remember my amped bloodfuried dooms not doing as much as they used to |
| 21:31.11 | [Ammo] | try it before your doom lands |
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| 21:33.38 | Zhinjio | Any resto shammies out there that wouldn't mind some questions? |
| 21:34.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Zhinjio: shoot |
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| 21:37.55 | Daemona | MADNESS !!!! |
| 21:38.01 | Daemona | \o/ |
| 21:40.21 | Pkekyo| | any good addons to keep track of farming? |
| 21:41.14 | ulic | Zhinjio: I could try |
| 21:41.47 | ulic | looks like nighthawk offered to, maybe you answered them yourself :) |
| 21:42.45 | bigzero | yay, i finally got my verdant gloves on my druid |
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| 21:43.29 | Fisker- | i'm better than you Pkekyo| |
| 21:43.44 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: so what? |
| 21:44.20 | Pkekyo| | find me a good farming addon and I'll believe you :p |
| 21:44.22 | Wogroipl | Pkekyo| I R resto shaman |
| 21:44.40 | Pkekyo| | Wogroipl: congrats? |
| 21:44.53 | Wogroipl | oh wrong person |
| 21:44.59 | Wogroipl | Zhinjio was asking :) |
| 21:45.42 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, you mean smething that will display how many of certain items you have in your bag? |
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| 21:47.12 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: pretty much, aye |
| 21:47.25 | bigzero | FuBar_FarmerFu? |
| 21:47.49 | Pkekyo| | preferably, being able to set a ultumate goal/number for how many of [specified item] I want, then have the addon display xx/xx [item name] in a list |
| 21:48.25 | Pkekyo| | how does it work bigzero? ie, how's the display etc? |
| 21:48.41 | Pkekyo| | couldn't find a wiki page for it |
| 21:48.47 | bigzero | idk... te description says "Keeps track of what you are farming" |
| 21:48.55 | bigzero | i don't use it |
| 21:49.17 | Zicon | <item> <number in bags> <number in bank> <total> |
| 21:49.21 | Zicon | That's pretty much it. |
| 21:50.19 | Pkekyo| | doh |
| 21:51.03 | Pkekyo| | saw a screenie once...addon that displayed a blue (?) frame with this setup: [itemicon] [itemlink] number in bag / set goal number |
| 21:51.15 | Pkekyo| | pretty much exactly what I'm after |
| 21:51.34 | Zicon | Let me know if you find it. |
| 21:52.10 | Pkekyo| | chances are slim, I'm farming arseloads of ores atm >.< |
| 21:53.43 | Pkekyo| | lol, a human paladin botting fishing in barrens :/ |
| 21:54.12 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:54.18 | Arrowmaster | your suppost to go inside WC for that |
| 21:54.31 | Pkekyo| | atleast I can farm honor as well when I farm ores :p |
| 21:55.24 | Pkekyo| | killing bots gets boring though :< |
| 21:56.13 | Gandharva | Antiarc: re |
| 21:56.19 | Gandharva | How can I help you? |
| 21:56.34 | Antiarc | Just wondering which spells need to be suppressed in Illidan's phase 2 for tanks |
| 21:56.41 | Antiarc | And I fixed the Quartz module |
| 21:56.47 | vossi | brb |
| 21:56.49 | Gandharva | A tank only wants to see shear |
| 21:56.50 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 21:56.52 | nevcairiel | parasites |
| 21:57.00 | nevcairiel | dunno what else he casts |
| 21:57.07 | nevcairiel | agoinzing flames |
| 21:57.26 | Gandharva | to time the shield block |
| 21:57.51 | Pkekyo| | I fucking HATE farming tin ore |
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| 22:00.58 | Gandharva | Shear, Flame Crash, Parasites, Draw Soul |
| 22:01.02 | CIA-4 | 03nebelmond * r58433 10Innervator/ (7 files): |
| 22:01.02 | CIA-4 | Innervator: initial commit |
| 22:01.02 | CIA-4 | - Innervator is a reminder to use Innervate as early as possible in long bossfights so that there is a chance to use it twice. |
| 22:01.32 | Gandharva | and Agonizing Flames |
| 22:01.52 | Gandharva | that's all he can cast |
| 22:02.50 | chiper | pk: pff, tin's easy. it's mithril that's a fucking headache |
| 22:03.00 | chiper | ten points till I can do thorium |
| 22:03.01 | Pkekyo| | chiper: it takes bloody ages |
| 22:03.13 | chiper | are you using _routes? |
| 22:03.15 | Pkekyo| | also, I allready leveled mining ages ago |
| 22:03.16 | Pkekyo| | yes I am |
| 22:04.04 | chiper | I worked mostely arathi and thousand needles for tin |
| 22:04.09 | chiper | there's tons of it there |
| 22:04.27 | Pkekyo| | I'm doing barrens |
| 22:04.39 | Pkekyo| | need copper as well |
| 22:04.44 | Pkekyo| | and linen cloth |
| 22:04.47 | Pkekyo| | bah |
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| 22:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Al'ar down, but GOD DAMN IT what a dick |
| 22:05.07 | CIA-4 | 03nebelmond * r58434 10Innervator/: |
| 22:05.07 | CIA-4 | Innervator: |
| 22:05.07 | CIA-4 | - svn:externals updated |
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| 22:06.57 | Pkekyo| | congrats sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:07.28 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: You go girl! |
| 22:08.35 | Pkekyo| | chiperI worked mostely arathi and thousand needles for tin <---- ashenvale has the most, actually |
| 22:09.02 | phyber | so, why did Vashj just randomly one-shot me for 12,900 when I was in range of her, wasn't trying to get out of LOS or anything. just normal nuking. |
| 22:09.13 | chiper | I strongly dislike ashenvale |
| 22:09.24 | Pkekyo| | hehe, me too |
| 22:09.33 | Kalroth | phyber: MT got stunned and you got aggro |
| 22:10.06 | phyber | Kalroth: I wasn't in melee range to take whatever massive thing she does to the melee :| |
| 22:10.18 | Kalroth | She shoots a nasty bow :) |
| 22:10.26 | Arrowmaster | vashj does multishot and aimed shot |
| 22:10.43 | phyber | well, it was lame. but nevermind, these are all wipe attempts anyway ;) |
| 22:10.50 | Xinhuan | omen works great now |
| 22:10.56 | Xinhuan | you can actually set PET aggro now lolol |
| 22:10.59 | Xinhuan | see* |
| 22:11.19 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: No no, don't talk in a positive way about Omen when Antiarc is around |
| 22:11.39 | Xinhuan | i fixed the bugs in it, so i'm actually talking about myself Kalroth :D |
| 22:11.48 | Kalroth | Oh okay, so I should sync soon?! |
| 22:12.33 | chiper | I did notice that my pet's threat seemed more realistic |
| 22:12.38 | Pkekyo| | geif vasj wipe attempts! |
| 22:12.53 | chiper | which was pretty sad, because he was often out-threating our tank in my arc run last night |
| 22:13.18 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.31 | chiper | fucking pugs |
| 22:14.19 | Pkekyo| | yay! 65/70 |
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| 22:15.53 | Pkekyo| | FUCKSAKE! 69/70 |
| 22:16.00 | Pkekyo| | hate it when that happens |
| 22:16.53 | Pkekyo| | fucking finally! 70 tin! |
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| 22:19.06 | bigzero | i think i have like the weirdest frost spec now... 3/0/58 |
| 22:19.15 | bigzero | it just doesn't look right |
| 22:20.19 | Pkekyo| | now...out to farm 160 heavy stone, 40 iron ore and 7 gold ore... /shrug |
| 22:21.16 | Pkekyo| | wtb carrot on a stick >.< |
| 22:26.30 | chiper | It would be nice if blizz would open up hyjal in WotLK |
| 22:26.44 | chiper | that's kinda inline with the story of northrend, right? |
| 22:27.20 | ckknight | not so much |
| 22:27.27 | ckknight | that'll likely come with an emerald dream expansion, imho |
| 22:27.31 | phyber | they should open it now, but they won't admit that attunements were a shit idea. |
| 22:27.47 | phyber | 6% of the population seeing your endgame = lol |
| 22:27.53 | chiper | phyber: I'm talking about the zone, not the CoT instance |
| 22:27.59 | phyber | ah |
| 22:28.03 | phyber | yes, they should :) |
| 22:28.05 | phyber | both :p |
| 22:28.32 | chiper | just thinking about it because I'm looking at my flightmap and realizing that's a pretty big hole in Kalimdor |
| 22:29.16 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: what does hyjal have to do with the emerald dream? |
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| 22:30.32 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 22:30.32 | CIA-4 | - Bug fix: Now uses enUS word list if one is not available for the current locale. |
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| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r58436 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | - Internal restructuring |
| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | - Support for multi-target spells (new events: MultiHealStart, MultiHealDelayed, MultiHealStop) |
| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | - Support for Binding Heal (Prayer of Healing supported yet) |
| 22:35.40 | CIA-4 | - Corrected calculation of Empowered Healing (priest) |
| 22:37.33 | CIA-4 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r58437 10VisualHeal/ (PitBull_VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.lua): |
| 22:37.33 | CIA-4 | VisualHeal: |
| 22:37.33 | CIA-4 | - Adapted to API changes in LibHealComm-3.0 - the API freeze is moving closer ;) |
| 22:40.32 | Neebler | why is it that everyone who makes a pvp video, has a shitty UI? |
| 22:41.00 | xyu | Good looking UI's are for carebears! |
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| 22:44.13 | vossi | i hate council fight :( |
| 22:44.59 | Fisker- | haste where aaaaaareeee you? |
| 22:45.14 | haste | Fisker-: uwt? |
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| 22:45.56 | Fisker- | i need to gank you |
| 22:46.04 | Fisker- | need selfasteem :< |
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| 22:47.48 | Fisker- | one does not simply holy shock level 30's |
| 22:48.38 | RaydenUni | <Pkekyo|> now...out to farm 160 heavy stone, 40 iron ore and 7 gold ore... /shrug <-- that faster than farming primals, selling those, and buying what you want? |
| 22:49.42 | xyu | i think so ,yes |
| 22:49.45 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: aye, my server's primal spots are so fucking crowded I want to cry |
| 22:49.46 | xyu | stone come by the tons |
| 22:50.05 | Pkekyo| | only decent way to get primals here is to roll engineering |
| 22:50.06 | xyu | the gold will probably take longer |
| 22:50.10 | xyu | than all the rest |
| 22:50.13 | Pkekyo| | - which is what I'm farming for |
| 22:50.29 | RaydenUni | how does engineering get you primals? |
| 22:50.35 | RaydenUni | what are fire primals going for on your server? |
| 22:51.44 | Pkekyo| | gas extraction |
| 22:51.54 | Pkekyo| | expensive as hell, but overrun by farmers |
| 22:52.43 | Pkekyo| | only half-decent way to get any is to mine fel iron |
| 22:56.20 | chiper | finally! 245, I can mine thorium |
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| 22:56.39 | Pkekyo| | congrats |
| 23:02.07 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: ping |
| 23:02.12 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 23:02.26 | Shadowed | Did you ever fix some of the lag issues with LibGraph-2.0? Haven't updated it yet doing that now |
| 23:02.32 | Xinhuan | lag issues? |
| 23:02.37 | Shadowed | moment |
| 23:02.44 | Xinhuan | i didn't change any code in it, apart from adding lib upgrade paths |
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| 23:03.11 | Xinhuan | so that the library upgrades properly and GCs the old code |
| 23:03.29 | Shadowed | seccc |
| 23:04.31 | Shadowed | local path = string.match(debugstack(1,1,0), "AddOns\\(.+)LibGraph%-2%.0%.lua") is still too long |
| 23:04.35 | Shadowed | local path = string.match(debugstack(1,1,0), "dOns\\(.+)LibGraph%-2%.0%.lua") worked fine |
| 23:05.21 | Shadowed | Hrm, the lag issue was fixed it appears, nevermind I guess. |
| 23:05.28 | Shadowed | I was getting a 4s-5s lag trying to graph 2 lines |
| 23:05.54 | Xinhuan | do you think i should shorten those 2 letters? heh |
| 23:05.59 | Shadowed | Well |
| 23:06.15 | Xinhuan | or maybe the filename to G-2.0.lua |
| 23:06.36 | Shadowed | My copy is ggoing to be using "dOns" because I can't use the full "AddOns" |
| 23:06.56 | [Ammo] | Shadowed: put your copy one folder higher :) |
| 23:07.12 | Shadowed | It's not really using anything that unstandard |
| 23:07.23 | Shadowed | OptionHouse/libs/LibGraph-2.0/files |
| 23:07.37 | [Ammo] | the problem is the debugstack shortens the path |
| 23:07.44 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 23:07.52 | [Ammo] | so you get ...dOns |
| 23:07.56 | [Ammo] | instead of ...AddOns |
| 23:08.10 | Xinhuan | for cartographer_routes, we simply put the folder 1 lvl higher as ammo said |
| 23:08.36 | Xinhuan | we didn't even call the folder Graph-1.0 i think, something even shorter |
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| 23:08.57 | Shadowed | Still need to come up with a way to automatically create colors, rather not have a static list |
| 23:09.04 | Shadowed | s/colors/good looking colors/ |
| 23:09.20 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure how the code works, do you need to manually pass in colors of each line? |
| 23:09.50 | Shadowed | You pass r, g, b, a |
| 23:10.05 | Xinhuan | whats your current method? have alist of 8 colors? |
| 23:10.39 | Shadowed | I have no method right now, I'm figuring out if I can come up with a dynamic way to get good looking colors |
| 23:10.58 | Xinhuan | i suggest you use the 9 class colors in the default UI perhaps, and maybe restrict lines to 9 |
| 23:11.20 | Xinhuan | or don't restrict lines, just reuse the 9 colors |
| 23:11.29 | Xinhuan | so 2 or more addons could share the same color |
| 23:11.51 | Shadowed | Yea, but if you share the same colors you can't tell which is what |
| 23:12.29 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount |
| 23:12.34 | Xinhuan | maybe you can check recount's code |
| 23:12.41 | Xinhuan | on how it generates its colors |
| 23:13.42 | Shadowed | I couldn't find out when I looked if I recall |
| 23:13.45 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate producing advertisements |
| 23:13.54 | Xinhuan | wake up Cryect |
| 23:14.19 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit Xinhuan |
| 23:14.20 | purl | ACTION crits Xinhuan with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Xinhuan dies |
| 23:14.34 | Pkekyo| | I love that one ^^ |
| 23:15.01 | Fisker- | ~fap Pkekyo| |
| 23:15.10 | Fisker- | madness |
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| 23:15.18 | Xinhuan | recount's "stack" option is pretty cool for stacked line graphs |
| 23:15.32 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 23:15.54 | Pkekyo| | ~fail Fisker- |
| 23:15.54 | purl | Fisker-: Fail. |
| 23:15.58 | Shadowed | He does something like |
| 23:16.10 | Shadowed | Start at 1.0, 1.0 * mod, 1.0 * mod, 1.0 * mod and repeats that |
| 23:16.15 | Shadowed | not 100% sure on that thought |
| 23:16.16 | Xinhuan | do you really need to show more than 9 lines? wont' it look like a big mess with too many lines? |
| 23:16.21 | Shadowed | Hell if I know |
| 23:16.33 | Xinhuan | i thought you have something working already |
| 23:16.46 | Shadowed | I gave you a screenshot like a week ago! |
| 23:16.46 | Xinhuan | cryect was on and chatting most of yesterday on irc |
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| 23:17.43 | Xinhuan | ya but i dunno how much you've done since |
| 23:17.56 | bigzero | i need more buttons on my mouse... can't find anything to bind to water ele |
| 23:18.21 | Shadowed | Nothing since that screenshot |
| 23:18.24 | CIA-4 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r58438 10oRA3/modules/ReadyCheck.lua: oRA3: start of a result window |
| 23:18.27 | Shadowed | Still not 100% happy with it |
| 23:18.48 | Xinhuan | ~seen Cryect |
| 23:18.51 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace (6h 57m 12s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 4h 52m 6s, last said: 'but that would require actual effort'. |
| 23:21.27 | Xinhuan | you could get the line drawing part done first, then tweak the axis later |
| 23:21.53 | Shadowed | Not the axis stuff, just the general look |
| 23:22.15 | Xinhuan | what do you want to change? |
| 23:22.21 | Shadowed | I'll show you in a few hours |
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| 23:23.52 | Kelnaj | nabend |
| 23:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Kelnaj this is an english language irc channel, please stick to that language. |
| 23:27.14 | Arrowmaster | wtb healing priest for T6 raids |
| 23:28.17 | Kelnaj | ok ;) can anyone tell me if omen works correctly for prot palas ( e.g. can omen detect if Righteous Fury is skilled?) |
| 23:28.28 | Xinhuan | yes Kelnaj |
| 23:28.51 | Kelnaj | thx :D that's what i wanted to hear ;) |
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| 23:29.06 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 23:29.08 | Shadowed | i hate font string wrapping |
| 23:29.10 | Shadowed | pain in the ass |
| 23:29.36 | Xinhuan | just give the fontstring a fixed width and height and |
| 23:29.45 | Xinhuan | it will auto shorten itself to "abc def..." |
| 23:29.54 | Xinhuan | when it runs out of space |
| 23:30.43 | Shadowed | theres a reason that doesn't work I can't remember it |
| 23:31.10 | CIA-4 | 03sungam * r58439 10ManaWarner/ (ManaWarner.toc embeds.xml): |
| 23:31.10 | CIA-4 | ManaWarner: |
| 23:31.10 | CIA-4 | - Embedded library issues, added embeds.xml |
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| 23:33.32 | Shadowed | Ah there we go, have to set it to a super small height instead of :GetFontHeight() |
| 23:34.39 | Pkekyo| | took me an hour to get 4/7 gold ore |
| 23:35.06 | Xinhuan | i should make an addon that counts the number of legendary weapons linked in /2 |
| 23:35.26 | vossi | and compare it to the number of fake gay jokes |
| 23:36.32 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: ....why? |
| 23:36.47 | Xinhuan | people link it 10 times every minute |
| 23:37.00 | Xinhuan | then more ppl start linking various orange stuff |
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| 23:37.11 | Xinhuan | eventually everyone starts spamming Thunderfury links |
| 23:37.20 | Xinhuan | then someone would link [Thunder][Fury] <-- 2 purples |
| 23:37.25 | Xinhuan | and everyone will go chuck norris |
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| 23:38.43 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 23:38.50 | Pkekyo| | I'd hate to be on your server :p |
| 23:40.29 | m4rku5 | heh nice server Xinhuan |
| 23:40.50 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 23:41.00 | Xinhuan | 17 bt guilds now on my server |
| 23:41.11 | m4rku5 | lol ;D |
| 23:42.24 | Pkekyo| | ok, now I just hate you |
| 23:43.15 | Xinhuan | my mistake, its 23 BT guilds now |
| 23:43.19 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2329262966&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 23:43.23 | Xinhuan | post 1 and 2 |
| 23:43.50 | Xinhuan | 9 of those 23 killed illidan |
| 23:44.16 | Pkekyo| | sod off :p |
| 23:44.29 | Xinhuan | get on a more populated realm :D |
| 23:45.49 | Pkekyo| | my realm died with TBC, when all the chinese guilds left |
| 23:46.06 | Xinhuan | should have left too |
| 23:46.25 | Pkekyo| | ATLEAST the top 10 horde pve guilds transfered off |
| 23:46.37 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 23:47.10 | Pkekyo| | no idea tbh |
| 23:47.14 | Pkekyo| | but it sure killed our server |
| 23:47.21 | Xinhuan | server unstable? |
| 23:47.25 | Pkekyo| | like hell |
| 23:47.28 | Xinhuan | frequent crashes/ |
| 23:47.30 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 23:47.33 | Pkekyo| | they fixed it a couple of weeks after all the guilds transfered |
| 23:47.38 | Pkekyo| | in the end, yes |
| 23:47.40 | Pkekyo| | got impossible to raid |
| 23:47.52 | Pkekyo| | half the raid was in the instance, and the world server crashed the other half |
| 23:48.00 | Xinhuan | soun like my server except nobody xferred |
| 23:48.31 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-solo.jpg |
| 23:48.33 | Pkekyo| | you were lucky then |
| 23:48.34 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/ui-1-13-2008-raid.jpg |
| 23:49.27 | Xinhuan | do you use like a 27" LCD or something |
| 23:49.36 | Antiarc | 24", but yeah |
| 23:50.00 | Pkekyo| | atleast it's interesting, Antiarc |
| 23:50.02 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 23:50.57 | Xinhuan | mine looks like that - http://kinkou.net/xinftp/killshots/shahrazdown.jpg - a bit crammed |
| 23:51.48 | Pkekyo| | spreadsheets helps ALOT when farming :) |
| 23:52.07 | Pkekyo| | how the flying fuck do you manage to do anything at all with that UI? |
| 23:52.34 | Xinhuan | hey it work |
| 23:52.36 | Xinhuan | +s |
| 23:53.02 | Xinhuan | i don't try to make my UI look nice, i only try to write good mods :D |
| 23:53.30 | Xinhuan | see the hunter pet in that Omen? name is "Skittie" or something |
| 23:55.35 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 23:55.42 | Shadowed | Priests make a bad class color given the fonts white, and priests are white! |
| 23:55.59 | Pkekyo| | that UI makes my eyes bleed |
| 23:56.02 | Xinhuan | whats your graph background color? |
| 23:56.16 | ulic | just use some shadow on fonts |
| 23:56.36 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, if i bothered i could have gotten eepanels and added black borders around everything and it would look better |
| 23:56.49 | Shadowed | Not the graphs, the actual selection |
| 23:56.49 | Shadowed | whee |
| 23:57.04 | Xinhuan | for some reason, adding black borders/backgrounds around everything gives the illusion that its "organized" because everything lookslike its nice and rectangular |
| 23:57.53 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: with every bloody bar texture/skin there is in the same UI? I doubt it |
| 23:58.18 | Xinhuan | many ppl manage it |
| 23:58.24 | Xinhuan | look at Antiarc's SS |
| 23:58.43 | Shadowed | Xinhuan what are the AddDataSeries arguments for the first one |
| 23:58.45 | Shadowed | it can either be |
| 23:58.49 | Antiarc | Eh. The human eye likes to parse blocks of color |
| 23:58.57 | Shadowed | {{x, y}, {x, y}} or {{x, x}, {y, y}}? |
| 23:59.02 | Antiarc | Adding a block of color behind a collection of elements lets the brain grok it more easily |
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| 23:59.26 | Xinhuan | i remember Cryect saying it can be any number of {x, y} tuples passed in |
| 23:59.40 | Xinhuan | or 2 tables of {x1, x2, x3, x4....}, {y1, y2, y3, y4....} passed in |
| 23:59.41 | Shadowed | well |
| 23:59.45 | Shadowed | wait |
| 23:59.57 | Xinhuan | it'll be ambiguous if there's only 2 elements |
