| 00:00.08 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: lol |
| 00:00.08 | vhaarr | well |
| 00:00.08 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: <vhaarr> not right now, 30min or so |
| 00:00.13 | chiper | I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about, but nobody in my other channels is talking |
| 00:00.14 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I didn't fucking read it when you said it :P |
| 00:00.17 | Xinhuan | PFFFFT |
| 00:00.28 | Xinhuan | ~whalecrit vhaarr |
| 00:00.29 | purl | ACTION crits vhaarr with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. vhaarr dies |
| 00:00.30 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: so I figured it out independently! |
| 00:00.31 | bigzero | if you can't share the credit, i'll just take it all for myself |
| 00:00.36 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: and hence, I deserve a fucking salute! |
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| 00:01.34 | vhaarr | okay I lied, I don't dance |
| 00:01.58 | bigzero | hmmm, wtb wow emotes for mIRC |
| 00:02.09 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.17 | Ellipsis | I have some of them as aliases >_> |
| 00:02.22 | shieldb | [Ammo], you around? |
| 00:02.26 | bigzero | yeah, but I don't remember the messages for all of them |
| 00:02.40 | Ellipsis | the wow website has a table of them all |
| 00:02.51 | Ellipsis | or wowwiki does maybe, the wow website one only has some of them? |
| 00:02.57 | Ellipsis | I don't really remember |
| 00:03.06 | shieldb | I am still disappointed by the lack of a /swoon in game |
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| 00:12.11 | bigzero | when using AceDB, db.profile changes when changing profiles, right? none of the other ones do? |
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| 00:17.25 | Ellipsis | there's an unflagged horde in IF o.O |
| 00:17.51 | ulic | nifty, would like to see that trick |
| 00:17.56 | [AR]Camci | kill hi |
| 00:17.57 | [AR]Camci | m |
| 00:18.02 | Ellipsis | he's just standing on the pillar where people duel |
| 00:18.04 | NivFreak | he's unflagged.. |
| 00:18.07 | Ellipsis | since it's not zoned as IF he's unflagged |
| 00:18.07 | [AR]Camci | lies |
| 00:18.14 | [AR]Camci | ooh |
| 00:18.18 | [AR]Camci | that trick |
| 00:18.20 | [AR]Camci | lol |
| 00:18.23 | NivFreak | hrm? |
| 00:18.28 | NivFreak | how is that possible |
| 00:18.33 | Ellipsis | he probably got summoned in |
| 00:18.36 | [AR]Camci | there is a zone just outside bank in the corner |
| 00:18.43 | chiper | niv: you dont know about the pillar trick? |
| 00:18.46 | [AR]Camci | you enter some other zoe, dont remember the name |
| 00:18.46 | NivFreak | it's non-contested? |
| 00:18.51 | [AR]Camci | if hes there for 5 min he gets unflaged |
| 00:18.51 | NivFreak | chiper: no, horde for life ;P |
| 00:19.02 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 00:19.22 | Ellipsis | well he can't stand there for 5 mins while flagged without getting killed |
| 00:19.24 | chiper | there's a few other spots like that in IF |
| 00:19.30 | Ellipsis | he had to be summoned in by someone |
| 00:19.39 | Ellipsis | yeah, there are a few |
| 00:19.41 | [AR]Camci | he can |
| 00:19.41 | NivFreak | he could if he was a rogue ;) |
| 00:19.42 | Antiarc | Stand there as a ghost and unflag. |
| 00:19.42 | Ellipsis | this is the most visible one |
| 00:19.45 | [AR]Camci | if he die close to that area |
| 00:19.48 | Antiarc | Tada |
| 00:19.48 | [AR]Camci | and stand there in ghose |
| 00:19.50 | [AR]Camci | thost |
| 00:19.51 | chiper | I used one the other day to get into old IF |
| 00:19.52 | [AR]Camci | ghost* |
| 00:19.54 | Ellipsis | oh, does that work? |
| 00:19.55 | [AR]Camci | and wait for pvp |
| 00:19.57 | Antiarc | Now I'm tempted to run a belf over to Ironforge |
| 00:20.00 | [AR]Camci | ofc |
| 00:20.06 | NivFreak | screenshot it fo rme |
| 00:20.07 | Xinhuan | i think the lynx boss totem trigger changed in patch 2.3.2 |
| 00:20.08 | NivFreak | I wanna see |
| 00:20.17 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: to what? |
| 00:20.18 | Xinhuan | i didn't see any bigwigs warning for the corrupted lightning totem |
| 00:20.20 | Xinhuan | today |
| 00:20.23 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:20.24 | Xinhuan | i wasn't sure |
| 00:20.29 | [AR]Camci | cant be arsed to run all the way to IF from orgrimmar and die and wait for 5 min :P |
| 00:20.31 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: See, I told you to PvP more! |
| 00:20.36 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:20.40 | Xinhuan | just pointing it out i think its changed |
| 00:20.51 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: I wish I could! :D |
| 00:21.00 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, I wouldn't be suprised it was typoed in the first place |
| 00:21.07 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: I pvped yesterday, you should be proud of me |
| 00:21.08 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: get me a screenshot please ;) |
| 00:21.12 | Xinhuan | it worked 3 days ago before 2.3.2 |
| 00:21.14 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: he already left, sorry |
| 00:21.14 | Xinhuan | so i dunno |
| 00:21.16 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: I'm very proud, BG? World? |
| 00:21.16 | NivFreak | damn |
| 00:21.23 | NivFreak | how about of the spot |
| 00:21.28 | Xinhuan | i don't exactly have a log now |
| 00:21.29 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 00:21.32 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:21.33 | Ellipsis | it's just the pillar beside the bank |
| 00:21.40 | [AR]Camci | i can give you a SS of the spot... |
| 00:21.47 | NivFreak | I think I've in in two alliance cities |
| 00:21.47 | [AR]Camci | if you give me a sec |
| 00:21.50 | Amadeo | I know the spot |
| 00:21.50 | chiper | Ellipsis: he doesnt play Alliance |
| 00:22.02 | chiper | tho if you go there on a fresh toon, you're bound to see people use it |
| 00:22.13 | chiper | it's the only way you can duel inside IF |
| 00:22.18 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:22.21 | NivFreak | I wish we had that in org |
| 00:22.22 | Ellipsis | yeah, spots like those are fun |
| 00:22.37 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, if you can transcript it, would be great |
| 00:22.42 | [AR]Camci | if you can wait 10 min i can run there with my horde and get unflagged at the spot :P |
| 00:22.44 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: a warrior in my guild dueled me like 8 times in order to teach me how a warlock can kill a warrior |
| 00:22.52 | NivFreak | haha, I'm not going anywhere |
| 00:22.57 | [AR]Camci | ok then |
| 00:23.00 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Did you beat him all 8 times and then /laugh? |
| 00:23.05 | Ellipsis | no... |
| 00:23.08 | Ellipsis | I lost the first couple |
| 00:23.13 | Amadeo | That's not bad! |
| 00:23.14 | Ellipsis | then I beat him like 2/3 of the time |
| 00:23.17 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:23.20 | Ellipsis | but he stopped trinketing out of seduce, so |
| 00:23.31 | Amadeo | and that's as Destruction? |
| 00:23.34 | Ellipsis | I think he was just going easy on me |
| 00:23.36 | Ellipsis | nah, afflic |
| 00:23.39 | Ellipsis | pve build, no coex |
| 00:23.50 | Amadeo | Yeah, so that's pretty good :) |
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| 00:24.06 | Ellipsis | yeah I guess |
| 00:24.14 | Ellipsis | but if he got a stun off on me I was dead |
| 00:24.17 | Ellipsis | so it was really just luck |
| 00:24.33 | Amadeo | Well most Warlocks are SL/SL for PvP these days, afaik |
| 00:24.37 | Amadeo | that makes a huge difference |
| 00:24.39 | Ellipsis | for arena yeah |
| 00:24.59 | Ellipsis | I would have creamed him if I was destro though |
| 00:25.09 | Amadeo | on my Warrior I would usually charge in and intimidating shout if they had a succubus out |
| 00:25.28 | Amadeo | or if they start to seduce I can tab-pummel |
| 00:25.36 | Antiarc | Someone tell me how to get my blood elf out of Silvermoon |
| 00:25.38 | Antiarc | I can't remember :( |
| 00:25.44 | Antiarc | I want to get to the Undercity |
| 00:25.48 | Ellipsis | go to where the leader is |
| 00:25.57 | Ellipsis | and in the room behind him there's a teleport orb |
| 00:26.01 | Antiarc | That's righ |
| 00:26.02 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 00:26.06 | Ellipsis | mmyup |
| 00:26.16 | chiper | I should go check out silvermoon, still never been ther |
| 00:26.27 | Amadeo | It's an annoying city like Undercity is |
| 00:26.46 | Amadeo | Looks nice though |
| 00:26.51 | chiper | undercity is only annoying to enter |
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| 00:26.59 | Amadeo | and navigate places |
| 00:27.00 | chiper | once inside it's as well organized as IF |
| 00:27.03 | Amadeo | you have to run in circles |
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| 00:27.21 | Antiarc | Ironforge is the best of the cities, layout-wise, IMO |
| 00:27.31 | chiper | Antiarc: agreed |
| 00:27.33 | Amadeo | I like Ironforge a lot |
| 00:27.41 | chiper | I always go to IF |
| 00:27.42 | Ellipsis | silvermoon isn't anywhere near as bad as UC |
| 00:27.50 | Ellipsis | imo it's the simplest horde city to navigate |
| 00:27.56 | Camci | stupid zeppelin |
| 00:28.01 | Amadeo | The good thing about Silvermoon is they have lots of little houses that you can cut through |
| 00:28.01 | chiper | darnassus, now that's a cluster fuck of confusion |
| 00:28.12 | Ellipsis | yeah Amadeo, knowing the right tricks gets you there a lot faster |
| 00:28.14 | chiper | not that orgimmar is any easier |
| 00:28.16 | Ellipsis | chiper: ??? |
| 00:28.31 | NivFreak | I love orgimmar |
| 00:28.33 | Amadeo | Darnassus has nice organization, but it's still annoying due to water |
| 00:28.34 | Ellipsis | darnassus is nice and flat at least...even if some of the npcs are in unexpected locations |
| 00:28.37 | NivFreak | I _HATE_ SMC |
| 00:28.49 | Ellipsis | darn on a druid actually doesn't suck |
| 00:28.53 | NivFreak | TB is probably the best laid out |
| 00:28.54 | Ellipsis | via aquatic form |
| 00:28.55 | Amadeo | haha, that's true |
| 00:28.57 | Amadeo | I did that yesterday |
| 00:29.01 | NivFreak | the best reason to go to org is for the free port though |
| 00:29.02 | chiper | I ALWAYS have to use a guard to find anything in darn, and the city's WAY too spread out |
| 00:29.03 | Ellipsis | IF > SW > all |
| 00:29.06 | NivFreak | when your hearth is down |
| 00:29.26 | Amadeo | The worst city is the most necessary...Shattrath :P |
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| 00:29.39 | chiper | naw, shat's ok |
| 00:29.44 | NivFreak | I don't mind shatt |
| 00:29.44 | Camci | i can only find stuff in orgrimmar... |
| 00:29.49 | Camci | rest cities i cant find a shit |
| 00:29.53 | Camci | even tho i been playing for 2 years |
| 00:29.53 | NivFreak | Camci: yea |
| 00:29.55 | Camci | >_> |
| 00:29.56 | NivFreak | although |
| 00:29.57 | Amadeo | Shattrath might be nice if I had more than 3 fps most places :P |
| 00:29.58 | NivFreak | TB is really good |
| 00:30.01 | NivFreak | everything is close |
| 00:30.03 | bigzero | Ellipsis, org >> all |
| 00:30.05 | Camci | im like never in TB |
| 00:30.06 | Antiarc | Shattrath is basically Ironforge 2.0 |
| 00:30.08 | Ellipsis | I freaking hate org |
| 00:30.10 | NivFreak | Camci: same |
| 00:30.12 | Ellipsis | now it may be because I'm alliance |
| 00:30.16 | chiper | it takes a while to learned where all the stuff in lowercity is, but once you get that down it's easy |
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| 00:30.19 | Amadeo | I hate Thunder Bluff, have to cross bridges everywhere |
| 00:30.22 | Ellipsis | but I've tried, and never quite gotten the hang of, navigating org |
| 00:30.23 | chiper | especially since you can fly everywhere |
| 00:30.27 | Antiarc | Stormwind is so confusing to newbies |
| 00:30.31 | Antiarc | I remember getting so lost in there |
| 00:30.32 | NivFreak | Amadeo: there's nothing you really need across the bridges |
| 00:30.35 | NivFreak | aside from quest crap |
| 00:30.41 | Amadeo | Antiarc: I was lost in Stormwind when I was 60 :P |
| 00:30.41 | chiper | what's confusing about stormwind? |
| 00:30.47 | Antiarc | It's tilted |
| 00:30.54 | Ellipsis | stormwind is the easiest city evar |
| 00:30.57 | Antiarc | When you look at the map is all slanted |
| 00:31.04 | chiper | oh, hah |
| 00:31.04 | Ellipsis | the npcs are in the places you expect them to be |
| 00:31.22 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Some things are weird, like the Warlock trainers |
| 00:31.27 | chiper | Ellipsis: yeah, exactly. only reason I dislike it is because of the moat |
| 00:31.32 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: what's wrong with the warlock trainers? |
| 00:31.37 | Ellipsis | at least it's in the mage quarter... |
| 00:31.41 | Amadeo | Down in the basement of some tavern |
| 00:31.45 | Amadeo | or something |
| 00:31.56 | chiper | amadeo: it's a tavern called the slaughtered lamb, how more perfect can you get? |
| 00:32.05 | bigzero | the only bad thing about org is that the forge and anvil are way out there |
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| 00:32.17 | Amadeo | chiper: You could be Horde and actually look like a slaughtered lamb :) |
| 00:32.20 | chiper | big: that's my complaint about SW too |
| 00:32.28 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:32.47 | chiper | the forge in SW is as far away from the AH as they could put it |
| 00:33.05 | chiper | and there's no mailbox in the dwarf district |
| 00:33.32 | chiper | hense why I like IF |
| 00:33.36 | Amadeo | There is no Dana, only Zool! |
| 00:33.57 | chiper | I just wish they'd do something with Old IF |
| 00:34.08 | Amadeo | They did |
| 00:34.12 | Amadeo | They closed it off :P |
| 00:34.18 | chiper | besides shutting it off :P |
| 00:34.39 | ulic | old IF? |
| 00:34.43 | Camci | still waiting for zepp |
| 00:34.47 | Camci | are they bugged.....? |
| 00:34.54 | NivFreak | so what's the mod that customizes the shift-v health bars (not sure thier proper name) |
| 00:35.03 | Amadeo | Aloft |
| 00:35.07 | chiper | ulic: the original IF from the beta days is still there, it's under the current IF |
| 00:35.07 | Amadeo | I think |
| 00:35.08 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:35.38 | chiper | ulic: if you go into the kings chamber you'll see two huge doors with big locks on them. those doors block the entrance to old IF |
| 00:35.48 | KivinSan | ckknight: ping |
| 00:36.03 | chiper | one goes down, under the forge, the other goes up to the airport |
| 00:36.21 | Amadeo | Anyone ever look back at the early beta or alpha WoW UI and think it's nicer than it is today? (defaults) |
| 00:36.37 | chiper | dont know if I've seen the old UI |
| 00:36.46 | Amadeo | I wonder if I can find a screenie |
| 00:39.10 | Amadeo | http://www.infoceptor.com/wow/gallery/albums/album03/34_G.jpg |
| 00:39.12 | Amadeo | there's one |
| 00:39.28 | Amadeo | I think if they polished that up, it would be nicer |
| 00:39.53 | CIA-4 | 03simlan * r58155 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): |
| 00:39.53 | CIA-4 | ActionCombat: |
| 00:39.53 | CIA-4 | - Added animation for Killing Blows |
| 00:39.53 | CIA-4 | - Added menu entried to activate/deactivate Killing Blow animation |
| 00:39.53 | CIA-4 | - This feature introduces rare, minor bugs in the animation, but this is OK for now, the animation core will be rewritten soon |
| 00:40.33 | Amadeo | The graphics there look a lot more similar to Warcraft III |
| 00:40.35 | Amadeo | I like it |
| 00:40.39 | Amadeo | I dunno, something about it :) |
| 00:40.58 | Amadeo | http://www.infoceptor.com/wow/gallery/albums/album03/36_G.jpg |
| 00:41.19 | KivinSan | cripes, i wouldn't even know it's the same game |
| 00:41.27 | KivinSan | they've brightened it up a lot and retextured the works, by the looks of it |
| 00:41.35 | Amadeo | yeah! |
| 00:41.38 | KivinSan | made everything look a lot "softer" since beta |
| 00:41.46 | Amadeo | I like sharper textures |
| 00:42.18 | Amadeo | Though the textures in Dark Age of Camelot are almost too sharp for the poor building models |
| 00:42.41 | KivinSan | FFXI was like that |
| 00:43.11 | buu | Wow. |
| 00:43.14 | Amadeo | I wonder if it had anything to do with the Blizzard employees that left |
| 00:43.17 | Amadeo | the change |
| 00:43.26 | chiper | I dont recognise that part of elwynn |
| 00:43.41 | buu | Amadeo: Dunno. The thing about those games is that it seems like they're trying to look more realistic, and thus look dated shortly afterwards. |
| 00:43.49 | NeoTron | fun with DKP stats - on average our raid consist almost half of priest/pally/locks - all who share the same t6 token |
| 00:43.58 | Amadeo | http://www.infoceptor.com/wow/gallery/albums/album03/8_G.sized.jpg |
| 00:43.59 | Amadeo | Spellbok |
| 00:44.01 | Amadeo | +o |
| 00:44.04 | buu | Amadeo: WoW seems to have achieved a stylistic look independent of technolofy. |
| 00:44.21 | Amadeo | buu: I agree, they did a good job with that...which is what is needed for accessability |
| 00:44.26 | Amadeo | Look at EQ2, nobody can play it |
| 00:44.39 | buu | Ooh, death touch. |
| 00:44.40 | NivFreak | so are omen/threalib all health and happy now? |
| 00:44.44 | NivFreak | threatlib |
| 00:44.47 | buu | Amadeo: Dunno, it's not just accessability. |
| 00:44.47 | KivinSan | What's wrong with EQ2, Amadeo? |
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| 00:44.52 | buu | Amadeo: Or spelling apparently. |
| 00:44.57 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:45.07 | Amadeo | KivinSan: Hefty system requirements, especially at release |
| 00:45.19 | charon | goodnight |
| 00:45.20 | Amadeo | That alienates too many possible players |
| 00:45.26 | Amadeo | night charon |
| 00:45.34 | KivinSan | Amadeo: I see |
| 00:45.43 | Amadeo | I played EQ2 a little bit, but my PC could never run it well enough to have fun |
| 00:45.46 | chiper | yeah, the fact that wow will run on just about anything makes it very appealing |
| 00:45.48 | Amadeo | but my PC gets by with WoW |
| 00:45.59 | buu | Amadeo: Like, some games you look back at 2 years later and they look super old and bad. |
| 00:46.05 | buu | Amadeo: Wow looks stunning for how old it is. |
| 00:46.05 | Amadeo | buu: Yep, definitely |
| 00:46.08 | KivinSan | Heh that's true. My computer is a dinosaur by modern standards and wow runs perfect with a crapload of addons |
| 00:46.21 | Amadeo | buu: Yeah, I enjoy the stylized graphics...my favorite are those in Baldur's Gate II |
| 00:46.22 | buu | Amadeo: Starcraft actually doesn't look half bad, aside from the resolution. |
| 00:46.41 | chiper | blizzard's always been good at low system specs |
| 00:46.54 | buu | So anyway, starcraft 2. |
| 00:47.05 | chiper | anybody remember how kind Diablo was? |
| 00:47.27 | chiper | I played that on a 486 |
| 00:47.39 | KivinSan | Is there any way to call the equivilant of /dump in Lua? |
| 00:48.01 | Amadeo | buu: I still don't understand why they don't just increase the resolution in StarCraft already :P |
| 00:48.21 | Xinhuan | KivinSan: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(blah) |
| 00:48.32 | chiper | I loved how C&C:RA could play at any resolution |
| 00:48.37 | buu | Amadeo: I'm not sure, probably a lack of time/care |
| 00:48.38 | Amadeo | http://www.infoceptor.com/wow/gallery/albums/album03/17_G.sized.jpg |
| 00:48.40 | Amadeo | Darkshire, haha |
| 00:48.46 | buu | Amadeo: I mean, it would just make things look small I guess. |
| 00:48.58 | Amadeo | Yeah, it probably would |
| 00:49.00 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: thanks. I assume the rock version is in RockConsole |
| 00:49.37 | chiper | Amadeo: I think they reason they didnt do that was so that players on a higher res wouldn't have an advantage over those on lower |
| 00:49.40 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 00:49.46 | buu | Amadeo: Blizz is all about not making any change that might conceivable be worse. |
| 00:49.55 | khangg | i like my computer :) runs everything i throw at it at max settings, recently new i guess |
| 00:49.58 | Xinhuan | in all likelihood you will be running at least one ace2 addon anyway |
| 00:50.01 | buu | chiper: I'm pretty sure just highres wouldn't show you more. |
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| 00:50.02 | Amadeo | It looks like they made a ton of changes from that early beta until now |
| 00:50.06 | Xinhuan | so just use it |
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| 00:50.25 | chiper | buu: that's how it worked in the C&C games |
| 00:50.30 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: was just easier to call 'self:' then all the acelibrary stuff |
| 00:50.31 | Antiarc | http://www.planetwarcraft.com/image.asp?/wow/oldmedia/screenshots/2001/goldshire02.jpg |
| 00:50.41 | chiper | otherwise, what would be the point? |
| 00:51.00 | Amadeo | Antiarc: I wish the game was that nice now days |
| 00:51.05 | Amadeo | WoW has zero immersion |
| 00:51.06 | buu | chiper: Well, see, that's bad. |
| 00:51.08 | Antiarc | http://www.planetwarcraft.com/image.asp?/wow/oldmedia/screenshots/2001/wowoct3.jpg |
| 00:51.18 | Antiarc | http://www.planetwarcraft.com/image.asp?/wow/oldmedia/screenshots/2001/wowoct6.jpg |
| 00:51.21 | buu | chiper: The point is not having pixels that are two inches wide =/ |
| 00:51.26 | chiper | run it at 800x600 and be blocky, or run it at 1400x900 and have it be scaled up blocky :/ |
| 00:52.07 | chiper | buu: so you're not talking about a simple resolution increase, you're talking about a whole new sprite upgrade |
| 00:52.15 | Amadeo | Obey your thirst! |
| 00:52.25 | chiper | that's a lot of work to put into a game that's been out for over a decade |
| 00:52.34 | Camci | standing on the spot |
| 00:52.35 | buu | chiper: Something like that. |
| 00:52.36 | Camci | waiting for pvp :P |
| 00:52.36 | Amadeo | Yeah but they still make tons off that game |
| 00:52.55 | KivinSan | ckknight: ping |
| 00:53.00 | buu | chiper: Certainly nobody is advocating that a player should see more. |
| 00:53.07 | chiper | Amadeo: which is why they've updated it for new hardware |
| 00:53.09 | buu | Amadeo: Thje interesting thing is if we'll see Sc1 implemented in Sc2 |
| 00:53.17 | ckknight | KivinSan: hrm? |
| 00:53.32 | KivinSan | ckknight: Lack of documentation on RockHook is making me a sad panda |
| 00:53.35 | chiper | blizzard's the only game company that updated all their old mac versions for mac os |
| 00:53.39 | chiper | macosx |
| 00:53.44 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:53.45 | ckknight | KivinSan: there should be dox |
| 00:53.50 | ckknight | KivinSan: what's confusing you? |
| 00:53.55 | KivinSan | ckknight: self:AddHook(ItemRefTooltip, "SetHyperlink", "ItemRefTooltip_SetHyperlink") |
| 00:53.55 | NivFreak | I wouldn't play wow if it didn't run on OSX |
| 00:54.17 | chiper | they;ve also released updates for their old dos games to run on winxp |
| 00:54.18 | KivinSan | ckknight: In my hook method, how do i fetch the original function pointer? |
| 00:54.27 | NeoTron | Antiarc: it's pretty funny how much wow has evolved |
| 00:54.42 | ckknight | KivinSan: self.hooks.WhateverFunc |
| 00:54.48 | NeoTron | heh used to have 4 trinket slots |
| 00:54.51 | ckknight | or self.hooks[object].WhateverMethod |
| 00:54.52 | KivinSan | ckknight: And no, it completely lacks docs for that one method |
| 00:55.05 | KivinSan | self.hooks[ItemRefTooltip].SetHyperlink? |
| 00:55.09 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:55.24 | ckknight | so you'd do self.hooks[ItemRefTooltip].SetHyperlink(ItemRefTooltip, ...) |
| 00:55.35 | KivinSan | okay, thanks, i'll try that |
| 00:56.16 | KivinSan | ckknight: RockHook is passing a table into my hook func as the first arg, just what is that supposed to be? |
| 00:56.55 | Camci | them they keep sheeping me :p |
| 00:57.16 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-91-57.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:58.10 | ckknight | yes, KivinSan, that is ItemRefTooltip |
| 00:58.21 | ckknight | KivinSan: see, object:method() => object.method(object) |
| 00:58.34 | KivinSan | okay |
| 00:58.35 | ckknight | so when you hook it, addon:method(object, ...) is what's passed |
| 00:58.52 | KivinSan | this appears to work: self.hooks[arg1].SetHyperlink(arg1, ...) |
| 00:59.13 | KivinSan | thanks for your time |
| 00:59.22 | Camci | finally, here you go: |
| 00:59.29 | Camci | http://i6.tinypic.com/6s6vbzs.jpg |
| 00:59.41 | Camci | http://i11.tinypic.com/6uqr95s.jpg |
| 01:00.21 | chiper | having a little trouble with your snowballs? |
| 01:00.34 | ckknight | KivinSan: don't call it arg1, it's more similar to arg0 |
| 01:00.40 | ckknight | or just 'object' |
| 01:00.46 | KivinSan | ckknight: yeah, yeah |
| 01:01.34 | Flexom | ckknight: still no chance in you fixing the bug that makes party frames hide in normal raids, but stay visible in bg's..... |
| 01:01.40 | Camci | snowball bug |
| 01:01.41 | Camci | ^^ |
| 01:02.50 | chiper | so did you just run straight in there, or did you have to res at the spot? |
| 01:02.58 | Camci | yes ofc |
| 01:03.02 | sdouble | the party frames hide for me everytime in BGs |
| 01:03.03 | Camci | have to wait to pvp goes off |
| 01:03.06 | *** join/#wowace Stanzilla (n=Stanzill@p54994C0A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:03.18 | Camci | i had 4-5 on me for a while.. |
| 01:03.20 | Camci | but they gave up |
| 01:03.25 | Camci | i just healed myself up ^^ |
| 01:04.50 | ckknight | Tinyboom: that's a feature, not a bug. |
| 01:05.02 | ckknight | Tinyboom: well, feature request |
| 01:05.04 | Tinyboom | ckknight: annoying :p |
| 01:05.20 | Tinyboom | ckknight: makes screen cluttered, me sad panda |
| 01:06.22 | chiper | is there a way to switch fubar layout profiles without changing everything else? |
| 01:07.28 | chiper | whenever I switch from default to a different profile mode in the config, all my other ace addons reset their settings. it's rather annoying |
| 01:10.07 | Tinyboom | and has someone messed up parrot? fonts don't work atm for some reason... |
| 01:10.24 | Camci | hahaha we gonna get a lock and one more to that spot |
| 01:10.28 | Camci | and start summoning ppl to that spot |
| 01:10.29 | Camci | lmao |
| 01:10.39 | Antiarc | I'm trying to run my belf down there |
| 01:10.41 | Antiarc | But she's level 10 |
| 01:10.44 | Antiarc | So it's a little tough |
| 01:11.16 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r58156 10sRaidFrames/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 01:11.16 | CIA-4 | sRaidFrames: |
| 01:11.16 | CIA-4 | - koKR Update |
| 01:11.25 | buu | Camci: Where? |
| 01:12.07 | chiper | buu: IF dueling spot next to the bank |
| 01:12.13 | Camci | [01:59] <Camci> http://i6.tinypic.com/6s6vbzs.jpg |
| 01:12.13 | Camci | [01:59] <Camci> http://i11.tinypic.com/6uqr95s.jpg |
| 01:12.22 | buu | Oh, er. |
| 01:12.31 | buu | I saw the picture, it just didn't make any sense. |
| 01:12.55 | Camci | someone wanted to see how you can go unflagged in IF |
| 01:13.00 | Camci | i wnet there and took the SS ^^ |
| 01:13.59 | *** join/#wowace vithos (n=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos) |
| 01:18.09 | exor674 | totally off topic, but... what bar mod is that? |
| 01:22.01 | KivinSan | bartender or something, with cyCircled |
| 01:22.41 | chiper | which part is cyCircled? |
| 01:22.54 | KivinSan | does the gloss |
| 01:23.04 | chiper | ah |
| 01:23.10 | Camci | let me see |
| 01:23.56 | Camci | its Bartender3 with cyCircled_Vol iirc |
| 01:24.13 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 01:24.18 | khangg | VolM > Vol |
| 01:24.21 | khangg | gloss is D: |
| 01:24.43 | KivinSan | <- likes volM |
| 01:24.44 | Camci | VolM ? |
| 01:25.01 | Camci | can you show a screenshot? |
| 01:25.05 | Neebler | matte |
| 01:25.05 | KivinSan | Sec |
| 01:25.20 | Camci | thnks |
| 01:25.58 | khangg | Camci, http://i12.tinypic.com/6ure1it.jpg |
| 01:26.04 | KivinSan | http://aams.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=48311&ForumID=398392&TabID=424119&TopicID=5894126 |
| 01:26.26 | KivinSan | mine is 3rd post from the bottom |
| 01:26.34 | khangg | my UI is a bit different from the linked |
| 01:26.37 | KivinSan | or 4th or something |
| 01:26.56 | Camci | that looks nice |
| 01:27.00 | Camci | gotta try it :D |
| 01:27.20 | Camci | Khhangg |
| 01:27.23 | Camci | what unit frame is that? :D |
| 01:27.34 | KivinSan | my bet is on pitbull |
| 01:28.08 | Camci | u ment khangg and i dont like pitbull :P |
| 01:28.10 | Camci | i* |
| 01:28.22 | KivinSan | My bet is still on pitbull... |
| 01:28.36 | Camci | aah lol i thoughtr you set "My pet" |
| 01:28.42 | Camci | sorry im too tired :P |
| 01:28.49 | Camci | you said* |
| 01:28.51 | Camci | >.< |
| 01:29.06 | CIA-4 | 03sayclub * r58157 10ActionCombat/Locale_koKR.lua: |
| 01:29.06 | CIA-4 | ActionCombat : |
| 01:29.06 | CIA-4 | - koKR Update |
| 01:29.10 | khangg | i don't really like pitbull either |
| 01:29.17 | khangg | but i like portraits |
| 01:29.19 | Camci | what you useeeeee? |
| 01:29.35 | khangg | pitbull |
| 01:29.52 | Camci | damn :P |
| 01:29.55 | chiper | does pitbull display party targets? |
| 01:30.03 | KivinSan | pitbull has every unit imaginable |
| 01:30.03 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 01:30.29 | khangg | yeah it does |
| 01:30.41 | Camci | can you only use like... you, your target and party? |
| 01:30.47 | khangg | yeah |
| 01:30.48 | Camci | and screw the rest? |
| 01:30.48 | KivinSan | absolutely |
| 01:30.50 | khangg | you can disable modules |
| 01:30.51 | chiper | when I tried pitbull last time I found it hard to configure |
| 01:30.55 | Camci | aha |
| 01:31.03 | KivinSan | I'd recommend shutting off everything but player until you get the config down, then add more frames |
| 01:31.07 | Camci | i did try pitbull too but was hard to configure and so much stuff |
| 01:31.12 | khangg | not really that hard to configure |
| 01:31.15 | khangg | just seems like soooooooo much |
| 01:31.17 | KivinSan | Pitbull certainly has a learning curve |
| 01:31.20 | khangg | but there's a lot you can ignore |
| 01:31.30 | Camci | ill try what kivinSan said |
| 01:31.30 | khangg | i disabled a lot of things in it |
| 01:31.50 | KivinSan | I can get my frames setup like what's shown in my guildportal link in about 10 minutes from a complete ui scrap... you just gotta get used to the config |
| 01:31.52 | Camci | how is it on fps and such? compare to aq-uf |
| 01:32.11 | KivinSan | I've never used AG, but pitbull doesn't cause any performance issues for me |
| 01:32.15 | khangg | a lot more memory usage |
| 01:32.17 | khangg | but |
| 01:32.19 | NivFreak | I finally spent the 4 hours I need to for pitbull configuration |
| 01:32.20 | Camci | i liked what i saw on khangg's ss :P |
| 01:32.21 | NivFreak | and switched over |
| 01:32.28 | KivinSan | takes about 4 megs of memory for me. not a ton, by any means |
| 01:32.34 | NivFreak | I then spent a few days disabling things like the prat module |
| 01:32.38 | NivFreak | that didn't seem to work well |
| 01:32.54 | NivFreak | I think I like it about the same as x-perl in the end |
| 01:33.03 | khangg | i don't like xperl :( |
| 01:33.08 | chiper | I didnt like xperl |
| 01:33.11 | Camci | i dont like xpearl either |
| 01:33.12 | NivFreak | I liked x-perl a lot |
| 01:33.18 | NivFreak | hated ag |
| 01:33.35 | chiper | but that was mainly because I couldn't disable the player and target frames without also disabling the pet frame |
| 01:33.45 | khangg | it looks too ugly for me |
| 01:33.55 | NivFreak | it was pretty easy to make x-perl look good |
| 01:33.55 | NivFreak | :P |
| 01:34.00 | Camci | you cant do such design on AG_uf? |
| 01:34.09 | chiper | currently I use Perl Classic for party and pet, and AG for raid and focus |
| 01:34.11 | NivFreak | I think the 5 minutes I spent to make it look good was far better than the 4 hours of pitbull tweaking |
| 01:34.12 | khangg | camci, i don't think so |
| 01:34.17 | Camci | i see |
| 01:34.24 | khangg | NivFreak, it took me 10 mins for my unitframes |
| 01:34.32 | Camci | is AG still dead or did someone take hold of it or something? >.< |
| 01:34.41 | NivFreak | the pitbull defaults are kind of useless imho |
| 01:34.47 | NivFreak | it should really have sane defaults |
| 01:34.51 | chiper | AG is being updates.. |
| 01:34.56 | chiper | *updated |
| 01:34.57 | khangg | updated* |
| 01:35.06 | NivFreak | dumping all of the frames on top of each other in the middle of the screen... |
| 01:35.09 | khangg | there's always stellaruf |
| 01:35.11 | khangg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small11023.jpg |
| 01:35.19 | chiper | niv: yeah, I think that's why I got scared off it |
| 01:35.21 | Camci | what kind of updated tho? i havent noticed anything... and i run the wowaceupdated like once a dead |
| 01:35.25 | Camci | once a day* |
| 01:35.26 | NivFreak | chiper: same, it took me 3 tries |
| 01:35.29 | KivinSan | wtf, an image the size of a postage stamp |
| 01:35.31 | NivFreak | and I'm pretty mod happy |
| 01:35.41 | chiper | especially since some things can only be configured when you actually need them, like party frames |
| 01:35.42 | NivFreak | khangg: that image is unreadable |
| 01:35.45 | chiper | and raid groups |
| 01:35.47 | NivFreak | chiper: nah |
| 01:35.49 | khangg | woops |
| 01:35.49 | NivFreak | that's not true |
| 01:35.52 | NivFreak | it has config modes |
| 01:35.54 | KivinSan | Pitbull feels a lot more sane once you shut off all the unit frames except one, and go from there |
| 01:36.00 | khangg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full11023.jpg |
| 01:36.01 | khangg | there we go |
| 01:36.15 | khangg | or just not target anyone |
| 01:36.18 | khangg | move away the player |
| 01:36.24 | chiper | kivin: how do you turn them back on again? when I disabled a frame it disappeared from the list |
| 01:36.26 | khangg | and then target someone |
| 01:36.31 | KivinSan | chiper: Go to "extra frames" |
| 01:36.34 | Camci | that do look like AG abit |
| 01:36.51 | khangg | stellaruf is like no configuration at all |
| 01:36.53 | NivFreak | khangg: what's special about them |
| 01:36.57 | chiper | ok, I need to get going home |
| 01:36.59 | Camci | what font is that khangg? :D |
| 01:37.08 | NivFreak | see, I really like the ability to tweak shit like pitbull has |
| 01:37.12 | khangg | Myriad |
| 01:37.17 | NivFreak | but it really needs some layouts to select |
| 01:37.19 | NivFreak | and sane defaults |
| 01:37.30 | KivinSan | What is the really sans font you have showing "KILL COMMAND" at the top of your screen? |
| 01:37.35 | khangg | ah |
| 01:37.35 | Camci | is it on your file which i downloaded? :P |
| 01:37.38 | khangg | that's avant guard |
| 01:37.46 | khangg | Camci, yeah |
| 01:37.46 | buu | NivFreak: Yeah, surely it would be easy to package it with some? |
| 01:37.51 | Camci | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.56 | NivFreak | buu: I haven't seen anyone do it? |
| 01:38.01 | KivinSan | found it on fonts101, thanks |
| 01:38.01 | NivFreak | I'll have seen is the forum layouts thread |
| 01:38.02 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:38.07 | NivFreak | all I've seen |
| 01:38.11 | NivFreak | I can't type today |
| 01:38.12 | NivFreak | at all |
| 01:38.14 | khangg | NivFreak, yeah there should be some layouts to choose from, but I don't know what's so insane about the default |
| 01:38.32 | NivFreak | a big pile of frames on top of each other |
| 01:38.37 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:38.45 | Camci | yea¨ |
| 01:38.47 | Camci | that scared me |
| 01:38.52 | Camci | and made me delete it right away |
| 01:38.55 | Camci | >_> |
| 01:39.01 | NivFreak | ignore the rest of my UI because I was screwing with things |
| 01:39.02 | buu | khangg: I seem to recall that the default is fairly clutterd. |
| 01:39.02 | KivinSan | party + player is a good start |
| 01:39.04 | khangg | they didnt's tart out with all the frames on top of each other |
| 01:39.09 | NivFreak | but here's what my pitbull frames look like now |
| 01:39.11 | NivFreak | http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot010908000140qh0.jpg |
| 01:39.14 | NivFreak | (in party) |
| 01:39.17 | KivinSan | and whichever you configure first, set a custom layout, and import that layout into the other frames as you enable them |
| 01:39.45 | KivinSan | the custom layout wont carry over colours or texts, IIRC, but it moves the bars and portrait |
| 01:40.13 | KivinSan | about to give parrot another try after i abandoned it due to lag issues on my hunter |
| 01:40.15 | NivFreak | iirc, you can do a lot of the configuration globally |
| 01:40.23 | Camci | so many fubar addons........ |
| 01:40.26 | Camci | :SSS |
| 01:40.34 | NivFreak | mine? |
| 01:40.36 | Camci | ye |
| 01:40.39 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:40.43 | NivFreak | I really don't like that |
| 01:40.49 | NivFreak | or the minimap icons |
| 01:40.56 | khangg | KivinSan, you try out msbt? |
| 01:40.58 | NivFreak | haven't figured out a better way to deal with them |
| 01:41.01 | khangg | i don't use fubar :) |
| 01:41.06 | Camci | msbt rocks ! |
| 01:41.06 | KivinSan | khangg: is that a scrolling text mod? |
| 01:41.08 | khangg | NivFreak, use tidyminimap |
| 01:41.13 | khangg | KivinSan, yeah, wowinterface.com |
| 01:41.21 | Camci | mikescrollingbattletext or something |
| 01:41.23 | NivFreak | khangg: will that interfere with simpleminimap? :) |
| 01:41.31 | KivinSan | The thing I like about parrot the most is how it consolidates information |
| 01:41.40 | khangg | NivFreak, all it does is make your minimap icons |
| 01:41.42 | khangg | appear like mine |
| 01:41.42 | KivinSan | "3 HITS (1 CRIT) 7530 damage" sort of thin |
| 01:41.45 | KivinSan | g |
| 01:41.56 | khangg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html |
| 01:41.57 | Camci | i had parrot before and SCT... after i tried MSBT... yea... :P |
| 01:42.00 | khangg | theres a video too kivin |
| 01:42.30 | khangg | NivFreak, naw it shouldn't, doesn't interfere with ricominimap |
| 01:42.34 | Camci | Niv whats that frame uyou have left of grid |
| 01:42.38 | Camci | looks some healing thingie? |
| 01:42.39 | khangg | NivFreak, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7281-TidyMinimap.html |
| 01:42.47 | NivFreak | I'll try it tonight |
| 01:42.50 | KivinSan | If parrot trumps my hunter like it used to, i'll give Mik's a try |
| 01:43.07 | NivFreak | I was just using fubar for that in general |
| 01:43.27 | Camci | NivFreak What is that addon you have about your name :P |
| 01:43.30 | Camci | above* |
| 01:43.34 | Camci | jeez cant type... |
| 01:43.43 | NivFreak | healbot and grid |
| 01:43.47 | NivFreak | I was screwing with them both |
| 01:43.52 | NivFreak | trying to get grid setup to try out |
| 01:43.55 | Camci | aha |
| 01:44.15 | Camci | i use Grid too, but with Clique |
| 01:44.18 | NivFreak | same |
| 01:44.25 | khangg | i use pitbull's raid frames :) |
| 01:44.27 | NivFreak | gonna try it tonight for the first time in raid |
| 01:44.38 | khangg | although, i don't even need raid frames |
| 01:44.42 | KivinSan | Using old fashioned raid pitbull frames + keypress heals, myself |
| 01:44.52 | NivFreak | ouch |
| 01:44.59 | KivinSan | hated grid |
| 01:45.11 | NivFreak | I've been using healbot for a while |
| 01:45.17 | NivFreak | but I dislike it's decursing |
| 01:45.21 | NivFreak | so I was using decursive with it |
| 01:45.30 | NivFreak | so I figured I'd try out grid/clique |
| 01:45.56 | khangg | good thing i don't heal :) |
| 01:46.19 | KivinSan | trying to get my paladin tank geared so i can look for a new job. i don't like healing |
| 01:46.27 | NivFreak | the one thing I haven't solved yet, is how to get my other healers estimated incoming heals to show up |
| 01:46.31 | NivFreak | thier healbots show my grid heals |
| 01:46.35 | NivFreak | but I don't see thiers in grid |
| 01:46.48 | Camci | heres how i have in raids... tho that screen is around 1-2 months ago... some new things might been added or removed dont remember:P http://i12.tinypic.com/6pznyip.jpg |
| 01:46.51 | NivFreak | I tried two of the grid addons that I found, neither showed them |
| 01:47.06 | KivinSan | that's way too busy for me |
| 01:47.12 | KivinSan | too many colours, too |
| 01:47.16 | NivFreak | why use smart debuff on top of grid? |
| 01:47.23 | khangg | so cluttered D: |
| 01:47.31 | Camci | its pain inthe ass to be raid leader :P |
| 01:47.37 | Camci | you cant dispell with grid..? |
| 01:47.39 | NivFreak | yea, I'm the raid leader too :P |
| 01:47.41 | KivinSan | http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/43/wowscrnshot110707024930zs5.jpg <- only difference here in a raid is i have 10/25 healthbar-only unit frames down the right side of the screen |
| 01:47.41 | Camci | like click and dispell i mean |
| 01:47.48 | NivFreak | I dispell with clique/grid |
| 01:47.50 | NivFreak | :P |
| 01:48.03 | Camci | oh shit i did not think about that... |
| 01:48.09 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 01:48.12 | Camci | but then my grid would be all messy :P |
| 01:48.22 | NivFreak | I just have it put debuff icons up |
| 01:48.51 | Camci | i removed that feature from it |
| 01:48.57 | Camci | it used to show on mine too didnt like it |
| 01:49.02 | Camci | i like smartdebuff |
| 01:49.02 | NivFreak | I don't understand how people can deal with non-flat bar textures;) |
| 01:49.21 | KivinSan | my current bars are flat |
| 01:49.22 | NivFreak | it's just a lot of movement |
| 01:49.24 | NivFreak | makes you slow |
| 01:49.45 | KivinSan | GRR... ParseLib makes me want to stab someone in the face |
| 01:49.51 | khangg | NivFreak, i used to be the biggest fan of gloss things, and now i can't stand it D: |
| 01:49.51 | RaydenUni | what NivFreak ? |
| 01:49.53 | KivinSan | or LibParser, whatever it is |
| 01:50.00 | RaydenUni | oh flat vs shiny |
| 01:50.06 | Camci | shiny imo |
| 01:50.06 | Camci | :P |
| 01:50.15 | NivFreak | I can barely read your bars |
| 01:50.21 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 01:50.27 | Camci | mine? |
| 01:50.31 | NivFreak | yea |
| 01:50.43 | NivFreak | which cooldown timer do you use? |
| 01:50.45 | Camci | whats there not to read? :P |
| 01:50.48 | NivFreak | CDT2? |
| 01:51.07 | bigzero | for druid 400 is uncritable agaist lvl 70, right? |
| 01:51.13 | bigzero | 400 def |
| 01:51.18 | Camci | CooldownCount for the bar and coolDown for the thinge on top right |
| 01:51.24 | Camci | of you cant see the thingie on top |
| 01:51.31 | Camci | let me feind a screenie with it if i can find it |
| 01:51.35 | NivFreak | what frames are at the top of your UI? |
| 01:51.45 | Camci | the party frames? |
| 01:51.48 | KivinSan | okay looks like i'm trying miks |
| 01:51.54 | khangg | KivinSan, i hope you like it :) |
| 01:51.57 | KivinSan | parrot absolutely staggers my performance |
| 01:52.07 | NivFreak | I'm still using sct/sctd |
| 01:52.12 | NivFreak | I'm not wow'd by them |
| 01:52.12 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:52.23 | KivinSan | consumes more cpu time than my entire ui layout combined, without it. even out of combat |
| 01:52.30 | khangg | lawl |
| 01:52.45 | KivinSan | and the LibParser bug with pets drives me insane |
| 01:52.50 | Ellipsis | me too |
| 01:52.54 | Ellipsis | WTB diagnosis/fix for that |
| 01:52.58 | KivinSan | Some time i need to profile that |
| 01:53.09 | NivFreak | so did whatever issues with omen/threatlib get worked out? :) |
| 01:53.14 | Antiarc | yes |
| 01:53.23 | NivFreak | awesome |
| 01:53.24 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:53.25 | khangg | KivinSan, it defaults it so the dmg appears in the scrolling, if that bothers you |
| 01:53.30 | khangg | i prefer over the head dmg |
| 01:53.42 | KivinSan | khangg: I prefer it semi circle around my char |
| 01:53.47 | KivinSan | else it gets in the way |
| 01:53.48 | Camci | here you can see, top right corner left of mini map |
| 01:53.49 | Camci | http://i6.tinypic.com/8a5qmu9.jpg |
| 01:54.00 | khangg | KivinSan, ah |
| 01:54.56 | KivinSan | SCT drove me to frusterating when there was a shadowpriest present |
| 01:55.00 | NivFreak | I was thinking of giving infinibar a shot, but I had a hell of a time figuring out how to get bars setup |
| 01:55.09 | KivinSan | my entire screen would fill up with periodics |
| 01:55.14 | NivFreak | KivinSan: I just turned the threshold up |
| 01:55.25 | NivFreak | so they didn't display |
| 01:55.31 | Camci | KivinSan: hahahaha same |
| 01:55.40 | KivinSan | pity parrot is such a hog on resources |
| 01:55.41 | Camci | i remember pre tbc when we did bosses like ragnaros |
| 01:55.51 | Camci | and having 2 shadow priest in party was.... laggy as shit |
| 01:56.44 | khangg | NivFreak, idactionbar is nice :) |
| 01:57.07 | khangg | KivinSan, did you check out the stage6 video for msbt? |
| 01:57.10 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: infinibar is kinda broken anyhow |
| 01:57.35 | KivinSan | khangg: nah, i'm not one to toil with such things. i'll try it live and see if i like it |
| 01:57.43 | khangg | KivinSan, ah :P |
| 01:57.50 | KivinSan | khangg: how much work is it going to be to get a custom font in msbt since it doesn't use sharedmedia |
| 01:57.59 | Camci | i have to say its the best scrolling text out there |
| 01:58.28 | khangg | KivinSan, not sure |
| 01:58.35 | khangg | i used msbt_sharedmedia or something |
| 01:58.44 | NivFreak | all I really want, is the ability to create random action bars |
| 01:58.45 | KivinSan | hmm |
| 01:58.53 | KivinSan | i'll check the trunk |
| 01:58.55 | NivFreak | I feel really limited by the default 10 or whatever |
| 01:58.56 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:59.07 | KivinSan | NivFreak: get trinitybars2 |
| 01:59.13 | NivFreak | (mostly my warrior) |
| 01:59.20 | khangg | bongos? |
| 01:59.38 | NivFreak | I had too many bad experiences with bongos being hosed |
| 01:59.42 | NivFreak | I won't touch it now |
| 01:59.45 | KivinSan | NivFreak: tb2 |
| 01:59.52 | NivFreak | I'll try it |
| 01:59.58 | KivinSan | THe config for it is beyond horrible |
| 02:00.01 | NivFreak | I've been using bartender3, and it's fine and everything |
| 02:00.05 | KivinSan | But once you get used to it, it works good |
| 02:00.06 | NivFreak | just stuck with a limited amount of bars |
| 02:00.24 | KivinSan | it doesn't adhere to the standard limitations for bars & buttons. Everything is virtual |
| 02:00.31 | NivFreak | that's what I want |
| 02:00.42 | NivFreak | I assume it has profiles too? |
| 02:00.43 | KivinSan | It uses the default 120 actionIDs until you tell it not to, then it uses virtual buttons |
| 02:00.47 | KivinSan | yeah |
| 02:01.14 | KivinSan | infinite number of infinitely large macros and buttons whose spells are stored in savedvars instead of blizz-side are kinda nice |
| 02:01.17 | NivFreak | so I end up doing raiding and arena on two different toons, in 2 different specs |
| 02:01.21 | NivFreak | I use tons of macros on both |
| 02:01.24 | KivinSan | if i wanted to have separate bar layouts for raid and pve, i'd just change profiles |
| 02:01.36 | NivFreak | and it's such a pita to make the changes I want each time I switch |
| 02:01.51 | NivFreak | wait |
| 02:01.55 | NivFreak | it avoids the macro limitations? |
| 02:02.01 | NivFreak | I thought that was impossible now |
| 02:02.07 | KivinSan | Not impossible at all |
| 02:02.10 | NivFreak | omg |
| 02:02.12 | NivFreak | seriously? |
| 02:02.14 | KivinSan | Standard macros use ActionIDs |
| 02:02.26 | NivFreak | I thought supermacro was broken intentionally |
| 02:02.31 | KivinSan | Trinity's macros inject the macros in with :SetAttribute |
| 02:03.21 | NivFreak | I have a charge/intercept/intervene macro that I could never use because it was too long ;) |
| 02:03.27 | NivFreak | over 255 chars |
| 02:03.29 | KivinSan | heh |
| 02:03.47 | KivinSan | I rarely have things that are too long, but it's nice to be able to paste a big chunk of code from an addon in, and use the macro to tweak SetPoints |
| 02:04.05 | NivFreak | ok |
| 02:04.08 | NivFreak | this sounds very interesting |
| 02:04.14 | NivFreak | I'll try it out later this week |
| 02:04.17 | NivFreak | bad thing to change before a raid |
| 02:04.18 | KivinSan | Groovy6 |
| 02:04.33 | KivinSan | Just try not to hate it too fast because of the horribad UI |
| 02:04.43 | NivFreak | I'm using pitbull aren't I? |
| 02:04.45 | NivFreak | :P |
| 02:04.57 | KivinSan | lol, it's 10x worse than setting up pitbull, until you figure it out |
| 02:05.10 | NivFreak | if that's true, I'm really scared ;) |
| 02:05.28 | KivinSan | It's just, all the bar and button settings are compressed inside two drop down comboboxes |
| 02:05.45 | NivFreak | oh |
| 02:05.49 | NivFreak | that could be interesting |
| 02:06.06 | KivinSan | So you'd sort of go "Button Count", then click + + + + + + + + |
| 02:06.08 | KivinSan | to add more buttons |
| 02:06.29 | NivFreak | does it solve the issue with unlearning spells, and having macros/buttons that used them disappear? |
| 02:06.31 | sdouble | did bloodrage for warriors put you in combat before? |
| 02:06.32 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 02:06.38 | NivFreak | sdouble: before 2.3 |
| 02:06.54 | KivinSan | NivFreak: Probably if you set a 'spell' or 'macro' button-type, it'll remember after you unlearn |
| 02:07.03 | KivinSan | definitely with macro |
| 02:07.23 | NivFreak | in an ideal world, I could configure a set of bars for my priest raiding/holy |
| 02:07.28 | NivFreak | save it to a profile |
| 02:07.37 | NivFreak | then one for arena/disc |
| 02:07.37 | khangg | KivinSan, how is it? :o |
| 02:07.40 | NivFreak | and one for shadow etc |
| 02:07.45 | NivFreak | and just switch on demand |
| 02:07.55 | NivFreak | without losing my macro/spell bindings |
| 02:07.59 | sdouble | I just started a warrior and I thought it seemed weird to bloodrage then charge. |
| 02:08.18 | Lukian | NivFreak, i heard bongos supported that |
| 02:08.22 | NivFreak | yea, you used to charge then bloodrage |
| 02:08.29 | NivFreak | Lukian: bongos broke every patch |
| 02:08.29 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 02:08.32 | KivinSan | khangg: been digging through the source trying to get the font changed |
| 02:08.34 | Lukian | hahah |
| 02:08.38 | Lukian | NivFreak, fair enough |
| 02:08.38 | khangg | KivinSan, ah |
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| 02:08.42 | NivFreak | seriously, it broke so often on patch days |
| 02:08.45 | NivFreak | that i dumped it |
| 02:08.48 | khangg | KivinSan, perhaps you can change it in the sharedmediamsbt |
| 02:08.49 | Lukian | NivFreak, maybe you can pester the bartender author ;) |
| 02:08.53 | NivFreak | you can't do much without action bars ;) |
| 02:08.56 | KivinSan | khangg: I couldn't find it on the trunk |
| 02:09.03 | KivinSan | khangg: I found a font file and have made adjustments to it |
| 02:09.07 | khangg | ah |
| 02:09.41 | Tuller | bongos breaks on a patch, then is stable for a few months, then breaks again :P |
| 02:09.44 | Tuller | that's my cycle :) |
| 02:10.13 | KivinSan | Trinity hasn't broken since i got it, shortly after 2.3, but i'd not be surprised if it did break |
| 02:10.22 | KivinSan | A lot of the things it does are experimental |
| 02:11.49 | durcyn | Tuller: speaking of, did you know that having multiple bars set up for warrior stance changes breaks when you level? =( |
| 02:11.52 | *** join/#wowace towbar (n=thriemus@thriemus.plus.com) |
| 02:11.56 | towbar | hello folks |
| 02:12.04 | Tuller | durcyn: define breaks |
| 02:12.20 | durcyn | Tuller: they're both set to a single bar, was only able to clear it by logging out |
| 02:12.23 | Tuller | are you gaining/losing a set? |
| 02:12.27 | Tuller | did you page? |
| 02:12.37 | durcyn | i.e. bar1 is set to 4/5/6 and bar2 is set to 7/8/9, both would be bar4 |
| 02:12.39 | durcyn | nope, no paging |
| 02:12.57 | Tuller | then i'm not sure how you've done that :P |
| 02:13.09 | durcyn | nor am i :o |
| 02:13.36 | towbar | may I ask a UI related problem that involves request boxes showing gold, silver, copper input boxes? |
| 02:13.40 | KivinSan | msbt looks like it'll do the trick |
| 02:14.56 | towbar | does anyone know any common bugs like the one I described? |
| 02:15.01 | *** part/#wowace TecnoBrat (i=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com) |
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| 02:16.05 | dre^ | towbar: sounds like your mod expects a tip... |
| 02:16.14 | towbar | lol :) |
| 02:16.27 | towbar | I have so many ace addons installed |
| 02:16.38 | towbar | it would take ages to try them one at a time |
| 02:16.46 | Ellipsis | er, perhaps a screenshot is in order? |
| 02:16.59 | towbar | sure give me a minute |
| 02:19.16 | rubik | anyone have issues with oRA2 MT frames not obeying scaling/sizing settings as of yesterday? |
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| 02:24.25 | towbar | http://files.filefront.com/errorjpg/;9408870;/fileinfo.html |
| 02:24.35 | towbar | that is a link to a screen with my problem |
| 02:24.48 | towbar | photobucket etc are low res |
| 02:24.55 | towbar | so i stuck it on filefront |
| 02:25.00 | ulic | is there a still a attunment process for The Eye? |
| 02:25.05 | towbar | no |
| 02:25.27 | Ellipsis | the quests still exist, just aren't required |
| 02:25.28 | towbar | blizzard opened it up, however you can still complete the quest line for champion of the naruu |
| 02:26.26 | kebinusan | Quixote spams like mad when its out of date |
| 02:26.40 | Ellipsis | WTB your server, towbar |
| 02:26.48 | Ellipsis | ace of blessings is twice that price on mine :( |
| 02:26.51 | towbar | i make so much of blessings decks |
| 02:26.59 | towbar | got 3 full decks left |
| 02:27.10 | towbar | keep all my gold on a bank alt ofc :) |
| 02:27.14 | towbar | best way to save :) |
| 02:27.25 | towbar | our server is small |
| 02:27.31 | towbar | my guild was first in hyjal |
| 02:27.36 | towbar | only 3 in BT now |
| 02:27.41 | towbar | :( |
| 02:27.54 | towbar | makes recruitment a pain, jsut starting council now |
| 02:27.58 | kebinusan | every time you enter/leave combat quixote spams 3x to update it |
| 02:28.35 | towbar | btw like my ui? I made it from scratch :) |
| 02:28.52 | towbar | absolutely love ace addons |
| 02:28.55 | towbar | so nice.. |
| 02:29.27 | Ellipsis | 120MB scares me tbh |
| 02:29.33 | towbar | jsut left BT |
| 02:29.37 | towbar | and didnt reset |
| 02:29.43 | Camci | where is your ui? |
| 02:29.45 | towbar | on load its about 50 ish |
| 02:29.47 | Camci | so i can see |
| 02:29.48 | towbar | http://files.filefront.com/errorjpg/;9408870;/fileinfo.html |
| 02:29.56 | Camci | -.- |
| 02:29.57 | Ellipsis | I'm in trouble if I get up to 40MiB after a raid |
| 02:30.04 | Camci | http://tinypic.com/ |
| 02:30.11 | towbar | dual core with 2 gig ram and nice video |
| 02:30.17 | towbar | doesnt hit me much |
| 02:30.34 | towbar | will tinypic let you show 1680x1050 full res? |
| 02:30.39 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 02:30.40 | towbar | most other sites shrink it |
| 02:30.43 | towbar | nice :) |
| 02:30.49 | Camci | ;) |
| 02:30.51 | KivinSan | 120mib alarms me not because of the memory consumption, but the number of addons that must be active to generate that much memory usage |
| 02:30.57 | Camci | using widescreen? |
| 02:31.00 | Ellipsis | exactly, KivinSan |
| 02:31.03 | towbar | most of that is recount |
| 02:31.08 | towbar | recount and sws |
| 02:31.18 | Camci | what was sws? |
| 02:31.20 | Camci | totally forgot |
| 02:31.22 | KivinSan | I can spare 120mib, i can't spare the cpu to walk over 120mib |
| 02:31.25 | towbar | sw stats |
| 02:31.30 | Camci | aah |
| 02:31.35 | Camci | why 2 combat meters? :P |
| 02:31.46 | towbar | dual monitor, i use the crap out of this box and its always fine |
| 02:31.59 | towbar | sws is for sync accuracy in raids |
| 02:32.08 | towbar | recount is for proper raid analsys |
| 02:32.13 | Ellipsis | I can spare the CPU to walk over everything that can fit in RAM six times... |
| 02:32.26 | towbar | recount is awesome for looking at dps, comparing specs and builds |
| 02:32.27 | Ellipsis | it's just that I can't handle too much memory usage |
| 02:32.28 | Antiarc | So I can hang out in IF unflagged |
| 02:32.36 | Antiarc | But doing it as a level 10 means the thief catchers don't like you |
| 02:32.38 | KivinSan | Ellipsis: Run LootLink recently? |
| 02:32.42 | Ellipsis | owned, Antiarc :P |
| 02:32.50 | towbar | anti i believe you wher etalking to a guild mate earlier regarding omen |
| 02:32.50 | Camci | wtf recount also shows specs? |
| 02:32.54 | Ellipsis | KivinSan: good lord no, what would I want with that kind of crap |
| 02:32.55 | towbar | where talking* |
| 02:33.01 | KivinSan | Ellipsis: case and point |
| 02:33.06 | Camci | Antiarc LOL |
| 02:33.06 | Antiarc | towbar: Possibly. I talked to a lot of people today about omen :) |
| 02:33.10 | Camci | that took some time :P |
| 02:33.12 | towbar | no it doesnt show specs, it lets me compare |
| 02:33.19 | Ellipsis | I can't afford a database of every item I've ever seen to be kept in lua |
| 02:33.22 | Ellipsis | on top of my item cache |
| 02:33.24 | Ellipsis | that doesn't make sense |
| 02:33.29 | Antiarc | Camci: Running Undercity -> IF as a level 10 isn't a quick trip >_> |
| 02:33.35 | Camci | hahaha |
| 02:33.47 | KivinSan | Ellipsis: I didn't say it made sense, I was putting my statement into perspective |
| 02:33.48 | Camci | now you can sit there and jump :D |
| 02:33.55 | Antiarc | I was dancing |
| 02:33.56 | towbar | antiarc have you heard of a problem like I have at teh minute, also I can add it started when 2.3 came |
| 02:34.03 | KivinSan | big memory addons typically mean big cpu clocks to go with it |
| 02:34.06 | Antiarc | But Farmountain has a TINY sliver where he has LOS on me :( |
| 02:34.12 | Antiarc | Then he hits me with a hooked net |
| 02:34.16 | Antiarc | towbar: Sure, what's up? |
| 02:34.21 | towbar | wow is not cpu hungry so much as gpu hungry |
| 02:34.24 | towbar | http://files.filefront.com/errorjpg/;9408870;/fileinfo.html |
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| 02:34.55 | Camci | i wanna use recount but uses so much memory ^^ |
| 02:35.05 | towbar | antiarc: that is what i get when i go to repair, buy, sell, accet summon, anything with a choice or not, teleported in instance out of grp, everything |
| 02:35.06 | KivinSan | i'm presently using recap |
| 02:35.18 | towbar | recount is the best dps meter "per say" by far |
| 02:35.20 | KivinSan | and it doesn't even show up in the top 3 addons tooltip for memory usage |
| 02:35.21 | Malek420 | hi there all |
| 02:35.23 | towbar | recap is niec too |
| 02:35.27 | towbar | nice* |
| 02:35.30 | Antiarc | towbar: Err, I'm confused. What's that have to do with Omen? |
| 02:35.35 | Malek420 | is there anyone that can help me with a few noob lua questions for a mod im working on |
| 02:35.36 | towbar | but i love per fight analsys in recount |
| 02:35.38 | Camci | recap was fucked for me, was totally wrong meters.... |
| 02:35.44 | Camci | me, as a healer was like 4th on dps and shit |
| 02:35.47 | Camci | so dunno what was wrong |
| 02:35.55 | towbar | eg trying different gear sets on a boss like shazraz to see what is best dps |
| 02:36.01 | KivinSan | You probably did a lot of damage over a short period, then never did any dmg again |
| 02:36.07 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 02:36.19 | towbar | antiarc: nothing, was wondering from a developers opnion |
| 02:36.49 | towbar | see what is happening with the prompt window, has anyone seen that? |
| 02:37.00 | Antiarc | Oh. I'm not sure. Looks like a Skinner issue. |
| 02:37.07 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's my guess too |
| 02:37.13 | Ellipsis | I know some stuff with the auction UI was changed |
| 02:37.21 | Ellipsis | so maybe skinner just needs to be updated for that |
| 02:37.28 | towbar | trying now with skinner diabled |
| 02:37.34 | Camci | errrr |
| 02:37.37 | towbar | i update regularly |
| 02:37.38 | towbar | :) |
| 02:37.49 | Camci | every time i log on skinners gives me like 15 of those "not found" thingie |
| 02:37.54 | Camci | i just ignore them... |
| 02:37.57 | Camci | ^^ |
| 02:38.05 | Ellipsis | well that's because you don't bother loading skins for your addons :P |
| 02:38.20 | Camci | i would do it if i knew how :DD |
| 02:38.33 | towbar | i think spammmenot removes all that startup addon reporting |
| 02:38.33 | Malek420 | can anyone tell me how i can format this line to trigger the 2nd part when anyone in my combat log casts divine shield: |
| 02:38.41 | Malek420 | if (strfind(arg1,"gains Divine Shield")~=nil) then 2ndactionhere |
| 02:39.44 | Camci | no idea :P |
| 02:39.53 | KivinSan | not at all sure what you're trying to do |
| 02:40.19 | Malek420 | well, im trying to have the mod play a sound file anytime an opponent in range of my combat log casts divine shield |
| 02:40.33 | towbar | tried skinner disabled and it is still happening, skinner was also my iniatial assumptions |
| 02:40.39 | towbar | assumption* |
| 02:40.51 | KivinSan | if strfind(arg1, ".+ gains Divine Shield") then PlaySound("SoundFile") end |
| 02:41.15 | Dwarik | anyone here has wowaceupdater working under wine(linux)? |
| 02:41.17 | Malek420 | i tried that and it doesn't work |
| 02:41.32 | Malek420 | i've got the .xml file with as many of the events registered onload as i can think of |
| 02:41.46 | towbar | I dont think wine has implemented .net 2 yet |
| 02:41.53 | Antiarc | So, funny story |
| 02:41.55 | Lukian | Dwarik, good luck with getting any .net apps working :p |
| 02:41.59 | Antiarc | We were in Naxx before 2.0 hit |
| 02:42.06 | Antiarc | And we had someone die, but they couldn't release, and they couldn't rez |
| 02:42.14 | Antiarc | So I say "Try /script RepopMe()" |
| 02:42.17 | Antiarc | And they did it |
| 02:42.20 | Antiarc | And rezzed in Alterac Valley. |
| 02:42.25 | KivinSan | (o.O) |
| 02:42.27 | towbar | lol |
| 02:42.33 | Dwarik | Lukian: i know :-), maybe someone had a non .net version or something like that |
| 02:42.55 | towbar | anyone else on vista 64? |
| 02:42.56 | Camci | lol |
| 02:43.02 | chiper | camci & towbar. use imagebin.org, their only limit is 1MB file size |
| 02:43.02 | towbar | or tried the updater in vista 64 |
| 02:43.12 | chiper | no resolution limits |
| 02:43.13 | towbar | chiper: thanks |
| 02:43.18 | Camci | im happy with tinypic :D |
| 02:43.25 | towbar | will try both :) |
| 02:43.55 | Camci | "Additionally we will only retain the image for up to 7 days" |
| 02:44.00 | Camci | ... |
| 02:44.01 | Camci | ^^ |
| 02:44.07 | Malek420 | kivinsan: would this also work if (strfind(arg1, ".+ gains Divine Shield")~=nil) |
| 02:44.18 | Malek420 | then playsound whatever |
| 02:44.32 | KivinSan | then ~= nil is the same as not having anything at all |
| 02:44.58 | Malek420 | so i should leave it out then |
| 02:45.04 | KivinSan | just makes it easier to read, imo |
| 02:45.04 | Malek420 | i've seen other sound triggering mods that use it for some reason |
| 02:45.17 | chiper | ok, time to try this pitbull thing again |
| 02:45.25 | towbar | its awesome |
| 02:45.30 | towbar | I love pitbull |
| 02:45.46 | ulic | I love pitbull, it's a bit of a pain to trick out, but once you've hit the sweet spot it's great. |
| 02:45.53 | KivinSan | chiper: Yell at me if it gives you trouble |
| 02:46.10 | towbar | agUF i used for a long time too through photek |
| 02:46.14 | vhaarr | wtf 500 - Internal Server Error on wowwiki |
| 02:46.24 | towbar | knew him on my old server and he got me onto ace addons |
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| 02:46.50 | chiper | niv said there's a way to make it do a config mode and show all frames, regardless of if you're in party/raid? |
| 02:47.02 | KivinSan | yeah |
| 02:47.17 | KivinSan | it's right on the root "PitBull" tree |
| 02:47.18 | towbar | also: any quartz related prorammers here? |
| 02:47.22 | KivinSan | set config mode to solo, or party |
| 02:47.53 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 02:47.58 | chiper | why is my pet frame blinking? |
| 02:48.03 | KivinSan | you probably have combat fader on |
| 02:48.06 | KivinSan | go to "All units" |
| 02:48.09 | [AR]Camci | hes hungry ! |
| 02:48.15 | KivinSan | click on other |
| 02:48.30 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 02:48.33 | chiper | that got rid of it |
| 02:48.35 | KivinSan | click on "combat fader" then click it off |
| 02:48.42 | KivinSan | it doesn't do anything useful |
| 02:48.58 | chiper | it also seems to think he's PvP flagged |
| 02:49.04 | chiper | or is that just showing I'm alliance? |
| 02:49.11 | Ellipsis | the icons show up while in config mode |
| 02:49.17 | chiper | oh, ok |
| 02:49.18 | Ellipsis | so you can place them and such |
| 02:49.50 | KivinSan | that's one thing that annoys me. makes it difficult to line up frames with the icons every which way |
| 02:51.40 | Ellipsis | I usually cheat and use another frame of some sort to get things lined up |
| 02:51.59 | KivinSan | WTB an addon that grabs a frame and allows me to nudge it one pixel at a time |
| 02:52.02 | Ellipsis | bring up violation and make it really tall and then put it against the edge of one frame, then line the others up against that |
| 02:52.07 | durcyn | KivinSan: Visor |
| 02:52.14 | durcyn | Ellipsis: Align |
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| 02:53.41 | chiper | FluidFrames lets you do that, but only through it's Khaos only config screen :( |
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| 02:53.46 | chiper | somebody should fix that |
| 02:54.13 | FtH|Daemona | hmmmm is there a way to request an update from a vendor trade window? |
| 02:56.44 | Xinhuan | only by reopening it (which means you need to close the window and rightclick on the vendor again) |
| 02:57.46 | FtH|Daemona | a pity... camping frost oil pattern for an alt suxx |
| 02:58.26 | towbar | cheaper to buy it on teh ah and trade while you are there |
| 02:58.32 | towbar | the* |
| 02:58.38 | towbar | I really cannot type :( |
| 02:58.55 | FtH|Daemona | well the pattern wasnt on the ah for 3 days straight ;) |
| 02:59.04 | towbar | ouch |
| 02:59.58 | towbar | pve, pvp or both |
| 03:00.02 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58158 10KivinSpamGuard/ (filter_rules.lua main.lua ui.lua): |
| 03:00.02 | CIA-4 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 03:00.02 | CIA-4 | - Implemented protection to General & Trade channels, and applied code for upcoming custom channel support. |
| 03:00.02 | CIA-4 | - Skeleton UI available at /sg. |
| 03:00.04 | towbar | both for me |
| 03:00.27 | towbar | what do you guys play for? |
| 03:03.42 | chiper | I dont see a pitbull frame for pet target |
| 03:03.52 | KivinSan | hmm |
| 03:04.08 | KivinSan | Player's Pet's Target |
| 03:04.12 | KivinSan | it's there |
| 03:04.24 | chiper | I have Players Pet, but no Players Pet Target |
| 03:04.39 | chiper | oh, I see, have to enable it |
| 03:04.42 | ulic | check the modules probably off by default |
| 03:04.42 | KivinSan | yeah |
| 03:04.49 | ulic | yea lots of extras off by default |
| 03:04.53 | KivinSan | extra units |
| 03:05.03 | RaydenUni | like target's target's target |
| 03:05.09 | RaydenUni | main tank's target's target |
| 03:05.13 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 03:05.17 | towbar | does anyone here use grid? |
| 03:05.40 | KivinSan | main tank's cousin's half-brother's target's target |
| 03:05.47 | KivinSan | oh, wait... |
| 03:05.53 | RaydenUni | ooh, that one sound's useful |
| 03:06.10 | RaydenUni | how does main tank work? |
| 03:06.16 | RaydenUni | the raid leader sets someone as main tank? |
| 03:06.21 | Recluse | yar |
| 03:06.23 | KivinSan | in a raid, someone types /mt <name> |
| 03:06.28 | KivinSan | and it sets them as a unit |
| 03:06.34 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 03:06.41 | KivinSan | likewise with /ma |
| 03:06.47 | RaydenUni | i should get my guild to start using that |
| 03:07.01 | RaydenUni | although just using icons seems to work pretty well for us |
| 03:07.03 | KivinSan | i personally think it had more application in 40 man raids prior to burning crusade. was nice to set the 5 stars of the show as MTs in CTRA |
| 03:07.30 | KivinSan | I don't even use it in my 10 mans, but i might in a 25 man |
| 03:07.33 | Recluse | not a need for MT in 5-man stuff, but depends on the group in 10/25, i'd say |
| 03:07.56 | [AR]Camci | we had 4 Wildfury Greatstaff dropped in yesterdays SSC run..... |
| 03:07.57 | RaydenUni | i'm going to start using party targets |
| 03:07.59 | RaydenUni | see how that works |
| 03:08.02 | [AR]Camci | i find that pretty lol |
| 03:08.35 | RaydenUni | do you have 3 feral druids? |
| 03:08.35 | Recluse | i'd like to buy raid target icons for solo play >.> |
| 03:08.36 | Keias | all sharded? |
| 03:08.44 | [AR]Camci | 2 got to resto healers :P |
| 03:08.46 | [AR]Camci | 2 sharded :P |
| 03:09.05 | towbar | that is such a nice staff |
| 03:09.21 | RaydenUni | why recluse? |
| 03:09.23 | towbar | really nice for bears to make up some def after changing the heavy clefthoof set |
| 03:09.40 | towbar | damn thats earthwarden |
| 03:10.58 | towbar | well its late, goodnight folks, thank you for trying to help with my problem |
| 03:11.04 | [AR]Camci | nn |
| 03:11.27 | [AR]Camci | anyone know where i can read and how to get that item stats shit to add on EQdkp website? |
| 03:11.28 | [AR]Camci | ^^ |
| 03:11.37 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58159 10GemHelper/GemHelper.lua: GemHelper: Auto query server for itemlinks if necessary since gems are always valid items on the server. |
| 03:11.38 | [AR]Camci | i had the link but lost it :( |
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| 03:13.00 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58160 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - Fix bug where selected mails for opening get skipped. |
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| 03:13.32 | bigzero | Xinhuan, gems are always valid? all items are "valid" now anyway |
| 03:13.51 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 03:14.00 | bigzero | what do you mean valid? |
| 03:14.11 | Xinhuan | valid here means "seen by server before" |
| 03:14.30 | bigzero | so why do gems have to always be valid? |
| 03:14.50 | Ellipsis | because the server enforces that |
| 03:14.52 | Xinhuan | server loads all gems so that their socketted data is valid |
| 03:15.00 | bigzero | ooo, kapish |
| 03:15.08 | Xinhuan | this includes the test gems that aren't on the server |
| 03:15.09 | Xinhuan | like |
| 03:15.37 | Xinhuan | item:28388 |
| 03:15.39 | Xinhuan | item:28389 |
| 03:15.41 | Xinhuan | go query those 2 |
| 03:15.47 | Xinhuan | gauranteed valid |
| 03:16.43 | Xinhuan | item:23366 and item:23364 too |
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| 03:19.20 | Xinhuan | you could query all the BT gems way before their patterns were out too (a few months back), same for the green quality wicked/great/etc gems |
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| 03:21.25 | Kemayo | kebinusan: I told Quixote to be a bit quieter earlier today, if you update. |
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| 03:22.45 | Gnarfoz_ | urgh |
| 03:23.43 | Gnarfoz_ | adding a default route that has a vpn server as its gateway was probably not such a good idea |
| 03:23.45 | kebinusan | Kemayo: yeah I just updated it, thats good to know for hte future |
| 03:23.49 | kebinusan | it kinda sucked in the middle of a raid |
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| 03:24.31 | kebinusan | well not sucked, but was annoying hehe |
| 03:24.33 | Gnarfoz_ | how the hell do I get back on my box now ;D |
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| 03:28.29 | Malek420 | hello what is the correct syntax for this line: |
| 03:28.32 | Malek420 | if (strfind(arg1,"(.+)'s Hammer of Wrath hits you for (.+) Holy damage")~=nil or strfind(arg1,"(.+)'s Hammer of Wrath crits you for (.+) Holy |
| 03:28.58 | Malek420 | damage.") then blahblahnext part |
| 03:29.15 | Xinhuan | looks alright, whats the problem? |
| 03:29.29 | Malek420 | it's not playing the soundfile in the "then" part |
| 03:29.49 | Malek420 | i've added as many register events to the .xml that seemed to relate to combat and other player spells/buffs/etc |
| 03:29.50 | Xinhuan | then maybe print out the value of arg1 just before the IF |
| 03:29.58 | Primer | ugh, just updated and it's a non stop flood of error popups |
| 03:30.00 | Xinhuan | just to be sure arg1 is what you wanted |
| 03:30.09 | KivinSan | try printing text out inside the if block so you can see if the strfinds are actually succeedig |
| 03:30.18 | Primer | so errors get logged to a file? |
| 03:30.26 | Malek420 | i have no idea how to do that :V |
| 03:30.27 | Primer | s/so/do/ |
| 03:30.32 | Xinhuan | also |
| 03:30.35 | Xinhuan | you can shorten that |
| 03:30.37 | Xinhuan | to |
| 03:31.24 | Xinhuan | if strfind(arg1, "(.+)'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for (.+) Holy damage") then |
| 03:31.25 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 03:31.28 | Primer | a ton of addons were updated, but I'm guessing it was an external that was really updated |
| 03:31.39 | Primer | it seems that every ace mod I have threw an error |
| 03:31.41 | KivinSan | (.+)'s Hammer of Wrath (crits|hits) you for (.+) Holy damage |
| 03:31.50 | KivinSan | does that work like perl regexs? |
| 03:31.50 | Malek420 | hmm |
| 03:31.53 | vhaarr | if arg1:find("^%S+'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for %d+ Holy damage.$") then |
| 03:31.53 | Xinhuan | kivin, no |
| 03:31.57 | KivinSan | d'oh |
| 03:32.20 | vhaarr | ah, note that there might actually be a space before the 's in the combat log |
| 03:32.23 | vhaarr | afaik |
| 03:32.29 | vhaarr | in some cases |
| 03:32.36 | KivinSan | .+ accounts for that |
| 03:32.43 | vhaarr | yeah but it's slow as hell |
| 03:32.56 | Xinhuan | lua> if strfind("Abc's Hammer of Wrath crits you for 789 Holy damage", "(.+)'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for (.+) Holy damage") then print("a") else print("b") end |
| 03:32.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 03:33.08 | Xinhuan | lua> if strfind("Abc's Hammer of Wrath hits you for 1234 Holy damage", "(.+)'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for (.+) Holy damage") then print("a") else print("b") end |
| 03:33.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 03:33.13 | Xinhuan | works fine |
| 03:33.42 | Malek420 | now that i see it again the combat log actually does have a space between the player name and the 's |
| 03:33.49 | vhaarr | right |
| 03:33.52 | vhaarr | so you suck, lern2read |
| 03:34.02 | Malek420 | yep |
| 03:34.06 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:34.25 | Xinhuan | the combat log is well known for its inconsistencies |
| 03:34.58 | buu | Xinhuan: the combat log is AWESOME! |
| 03:35.08 | Xinhuan | ym is awesome |
| 03:35.08 | Primer | /long/path/foo requires AceEvent-2.0 |
| 03:35.13 | vhaarr | Malek420: but use mine: "^%S+ 's Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for %d+ Holy damage.$" |
| 03:35.23 | vhaarr | should be a lot faster than .+ |
| 03:35.36 | buu | Xinhuan: And by awesome, I mostly mean terrible. |
| 03:35.50 | Wobwork | awesomely terrible? |
| 03:35.57 | Wobwork | or terribly awesome |
| 03:36.25 | Xinhuan | so do any of your servers do pug magtheridons? |
| 03:36.36 | Xinhuan | and are they usually success or failores? |
| 03:36.48 | KivinSan | Not even the really successful guilds do mag on my server |
| 03:36.56 | Xinhuan | hence pugs |
| 03:36.57 | KivinSan | He gets completely skipped due to the learning curve and difficulty level |
| 03:37.18 | vhaarr | he's really easy now |
| 03:37.22 | Xinhuan | a lot of people are somewhat keen to complete the "champion of the naaru" questline to get the title |
| 03:37.53 | KivinSan | not even kara pugs go very well on my server |
| 03:38.01 | KivinSan | farthest i've ever heard of one getting was madien |
| 03:38.02 | KivinSan | maiden |
| 03:38.45 | Primer | SendCommMessage (a nil value) |
| 03:39.21 | Xinhuan | my friend just managed to get this recipe that makes Holy Protection Potions |
| 03:39.21 | Xinhuan | i'm like ... wtf? |
| 03:39.21 | Xinhuan | does any boss even do holy damage? |
| 03:39.21 | KivinSan | heh |
| 03:39.21 | Xinhuan | (apart from maiden) |
| 03:39.35 | KivinSan | mad discipline pvp dpsz |
| 03:39.59 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I believe Julianne does Holy damage as well? |
| 03:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | holy protection pots are ancient, and pre-bc as it is.. |
| 03:40.13 | Arrowmaster | you guys all forgot to put %.$ at the end of your pattern matching strings |
| 03:40.14 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: and the Shatterer in BT? |
| 03:40.24 | Primer | it's pitbull |
| 03:40.29 | Xinhuan | i meant [Major Holy Protection Potion] |
| 03:40.30 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:40.32 | Primer | wanting to use that method |
| 03:40.34 | Arrowmaster | excapt the damn ending period you bunch of noobs |
| 03:40.34 | Xinhuan | the tbc version |
| 03:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, well |
| 03:40.45 | Xinhuan | not too sure about juliane hmm |
| 03:40.59 | vhaarr | haven't done kara in a while but she shoots some light at people |
| 03:41.05 | vhaarr | blinding light or what it's called |
| 03:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, looks like holy fire |
| 03:41.18 | NightHawkTheSane | or someshit |
| 03:41.36 | Xinhuan | its the only potion that doesn't have a cauldron version i think? |
| 03:41.39 | Wobwork | er |
| 03:41.41 | Wobwork | interrupt? |
| 03:41.50 | Wobwork | on Julienne |
| 03:42.04 | Wobwork | oh the dot |
| 03:42.13 | Wobwork | nm |
| 03:42.24 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: yeah it doesn't have a cauldron |
| 03:42.42 | Xinhuan | so dumb |
| 03:42.43 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: guess how many I made of it before I decided to stop trying |
| 03:42.45 | vhaarr | :P |
| 03:42.48 | Wobwork | I love being a hunter on R&J: "Romulos gains Daring!" "Oh no you don't... *arcane*" |
| 03:42.53 | Xinhuan | LoL |
| 03:42.58 | Xinhuan | i dunno, 5 maybe max? |
| 03:43.02 | vhaarr | 40 |
| 03:43.13 | Xinhuan | what did you end up doing with the holy pots |
| 03:43.17 | Xinhuan | vendor? |
| 03:43.21 | vhaarr | they're still in my bank :P |
| 03:43.26 | JoshBorke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 03:43.26 | purl | strangles Xinhuan with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 03:43.28 | Wobwork | Maiden? =) |
| 03:43.35 | Wobwork | she deals holy damage, no? |
| 03:43.40 | vhaarr | we were way past maiden at that point |
| 03:43.54 | vhaarr | but if not yeah it would've been good for that I guess |
| 03:43.58 | Wobwork | well, you'd still -do- her =) |
| 03:44.08 | Xinhuan | hmmmm HEXLORD MALARCRASS! when he steals a pally, i think his consecration is holy damage? |
| 03:44.08 | Wobwork | since you aren't using the pots for anything else |
| 03:44.11 | vhaarr | I'll save them for a rainy day :P |
| 03:44.17 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: YES! |
| 03:44.21 | Xinhuan | wooo! |
| 03:44.23 | Malek420 | if strfind(arg1,"^%S+'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for %d+ Holy damage.$") then doesn't seem to be working =( |
| 03:44.29 | vhaarr | hah, I'll save them for that! |
| 03:44.40 | Malek420 | i also tried with the space between + and 's |
| 03:44.48 | vhaarr | well we actually killed him as well but |
| 03:44.56 | vhaarr | Malek420: it works |
| 03:45.05 | Wobwork | RL: "Oh no, UberPally is possessed!" Vhaarr: "Don't worry! I've prepared for this moment for YEARS!" |
| 03:45.10 | Xinhuan | lua> if strfind("Abc's Hammer of Wrath crits you for 123 Holy damage.","^%S+'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for %d+ Holy damage.$") then print("a") else print("b") |
| 03:45.10 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "if strfind("Abc's Hammer of Wrath crits you for 123 Holy damage..."]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 03:45.15 | Xinhuan | lua> if strfind("Abc's Hammer of Wrath crits you for 123 Holy damage.","^%S+'s Hammer of Wrath [ch]r?its you for %d+ Holy damage.$") then print("a") else print("b") end |
| 03:45.16 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 03:45.18 | Xinhuan | it works |
| 03:45.19 | Ellipsis | rofl Wobwork |
| 03:45.25 | Malek420 | perhaps im missing a register |
| 03:45.26 | vhaarr | Wobwork: haha |
| 03:45.29 | Xinhuan | your arg1 is wrong Malek420 |
| 03:45.54 | Malek420 | do player skills/spells against me use arg2 for the originator of the attack? |
| 03:46.14 | Ellipsis | Malek420: check wowwiki's event docs |
| 03:46.16 | vhaarr | kind of depends what event you're using |
| 03:46.30 | Xinhuan | its dependant on event and that's why it sucks |
| 03:46.55 | Xinhuan | i don't think the args even tell you the originator for most of the events |
| 03:47.02 | vhaarr | indeed they do not |
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| 03:47.36 | Xinhuan | i looked at parserlib yesterday |
| 03:47.42 | Xinhuan | and told myself, WTF |
| 03:47.45 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: do your raid officers discuss things on your guild forums? |
| 03:48.02 | Xinhuan | "things" as in what? |
| 03:48.02 | vhaarr | Malek420: if you're using a CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_X event, the whole string as it appears in your combat log WILL be arg1 in your event handler. |
| 03:48.26 | vhaarr | Malek420: if you're NOT using a CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_X event, you're using the wrong event |
| 03:48.32 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: anything related to raiding and administrative decisions |
| 03:48.56 | Xinhuan | yes, we discuss boss fights on our guild forums |
| 03:48.58 | vhaarr | Malek420: if you are using a CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_X event and that rx pattern doesn't match, you're using the wrong CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_X event |
| 03:49.09 | Xinhuan | and maybe draw pretty diagrams to illustrate movement and positioning |
| 03:49.18 | Xinhuan | also discuss dkp system and stuff |
| 03:49.46 | Xinhuan | turns out that half the guild is shit at MS Paint |
| 03:49.47 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 03:50.06 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone is shit at ms paint |
| 03:50.22 | Xinhuan | yeah but there's a level of shittiness that you can't transcend! |
| 03:50.39 | vhaarr | The internet force is weak in this one. |
| 03:50.44 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: ok, because my guild (including leadership) fails at using forums |
| 03:51.05 | Xinhuan | maybe there's hidden forums you can't view? |
| 03:51.11 | JoshBorke | not anymore |
| 03:51.15 | Xinhuan | or they use /o for admin stuff |
| 03:51.16 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: i've noticed thats fairly common |
| 03:51.33 | Xinhuan | it helps to use forums though, so members know what's going on |
| 03:51.34 | Malek420 | ok i am retarded and forgot to register ("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE"); |
| 03:51.39 | Malek420 | thank you all for your help =) |
| 03:51.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, of course it does |
| 03:51.58 | Malek420 | catch you guys later, thanks again |
| 03:52.18 | KivinSan | =\ |
| 03:52.21 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: you fail at assertions http://youtube.com/watch?v=vUWqRhReaZk |
| 03:52.25 | vhaarr | that guy is not shit at ms paint |
| 03:52.47 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, 99% of people are shit at ms point ;) |
| 03:52.54 | vhaarr | granted |
| 03:56.19 | JoshBorke | yea, and i bet he uses a tablet to draw intsead of a mouse ;-) |
| 03:59.46 | NightHawkTheSane | almost certainly |
| 04:01.15 | KivinSan | he says no tablet in the description |
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| 04:03.58 | RaydenUni | that SUCKED |
| 04:04.06 | RaydenUni | i waited over an hour to join a 30 second AV match |
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| 04:05.31 | Wobwork | did you win? |
| 04:06.18 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 04:06.29 | RaydenUni | people were arguing over whether to kill Vann or cap some towers |
| 04:06.37 | RaydenUni | i guess the killers of vann won |
| 04:06.38 | bigzero | wow, dd-wrt can go die in hell...took me 50 minutes to get my router working again |
| 04:07.05 | Arrowmaster | dd-wrt sucks, use tomato |
| 04:07.21 | RaydenUni | i am very impressed with the queue time though |
| 04:07.25 | bigzero | i would but wrt54g v8 only has 2mb flash and 8mb ram |
| 04:07.27 | RaydenUni | it's always within a minute these days |
| 04:07.38 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 04:07.51 | bigzero | wish i knew that before i bought it |
| 04:07.53 | CIA-4 | 03tekkub * r58161 10Kyubi/Kyubi.toc: Kyubi no Kitsune - Never committed this, X-LoadOn-Slash goodies |
| 04:07.55 | Arrowmaster | i specificly ordered a wrt54gl |
| 04:08.23 | bigzero | I'll do that next time...now i'm kinda stuck |
| 04:08.33 | Arrowmaster | how much was that one? |
| 04:08.37 | bigzero | $50 |
| 04:08.46 | Arrowmaster | ok i paid the same |
| 04:08.59 | bigzero | but got a much better product, so you win, i lose |
| 04:09.43 | bigzero | maybe i can find one cheap on ebay |
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| 04:12.26 | RLD_osx | we have energy bars, health bars, mana bars. has anyone thought of an armor bar. showing how much dmg your armor is getting (per hit maybe). something a bit more than durability in titan. |
| 04:12.27 | bigzero | v3 looks kinda nice |
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| 04:13.46 | bigzero | RLD_osx, interesting idea, but idk if it's really neessary. you get the % display which doesn't take up as much space as a bar would |
| 04:13.56 | Primer | WOOT Caught Mr Pinchy! |
| 04:14.04 | bigzero | Primer, grats! |
| 04:14.07 | bigzero | i still haven't |
| 04:16.35 | chiper | ok, finally got pitbull configured |
| 04:16.35 | Primer | total fluke too, decided I'd fish to get some crawdad to level my alt's cooking |
| 04:17.09 | Primer | speaking of pitbull, would "/cast [target=mouseover] spellname" work when mousing over a unit frame? |
| 04:17.13 | chiper | how do I get rid of the transparency behind unit portraits? |
| 04:17.21 | RLD_osx | I got mr pinchy twice within 3 days just below skettis |
| 04:17.23 | khangg | KivinSan, |
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| 04:17.45 | khangg | <Primer> speaking of pitbull, would "/cast [target=mouseover] spellname" work when mousing over a unit frame? |
| 04:17.47 | khangg | yeah |
| 04:18.05 | vithos | i love getting blamed for pulling aggro when the tank's Threat library isn't broadcasting :( |
| 04:18.30 | RLD_osx | only one bad wish out of 6 |
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| 04:21.27 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, do you know if tomato has print server support? I'm looking at their website and a bunch of the routers have (no USB support) by them. |
| 04:22.05 | Arrowmaster | only like 1 router model has usb afaik |
| 04:22.25 | bigzero | :-( |
| 04:22.44 | Arrowmaster | and since i dont have it use firmware for a different model i havent seen anything about usb |
| 04:23.41 | Arrowmaster | tomato does tell me that ive downloaded 50.06 GB so far for the month of january |
| 04:24.04 | Arrowmaster | and uploaded 24.73 GB for a total of 74.78 GB |
| 04:24.06 | Primer | khangg: cool, thanks. I'll start creating the macros now |
| 04:24.08 | Arrowmaster | my isp is going to hate me |
| 04:25.35 | khangg | Arrowmaster, lawl that's a lot of upload :o |
| 04:25.38 | khangg | i download a lot per month |
| 04:25.51 | Lukian | Kemayo, AuldLangSyne request |
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| 04:26.17 | Arrowmaster | 82.49 GB down, 42.59 GBup, 125.08 GB total for december |
| 04:29.50 | Wobwork | Arrowmaster: =( |
| 04:30.11 | NightHawkTheSane | shatt needs a fucking a h |
| 04:30.35 | RaydenUni | so we can have more lag? |
| 04:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | so i dont have to go somewhere else to buy one item, and then come right back to shtt |
| 04:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and dammit, there's no fel lotus on the AH. >< |
| 04:32.20 | RaydenUni | that's what guild mates are for |
| 04:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | no, thats what having two characters with herbalism is for, but i've had real shitty luck of late :( |
| 04:33.05 | NightHawkTheSane | and nightly vashj attempts ate through my supply |
| 04:33.45 | khangg | that's why you be like me, and don't take up any professions besides FA and cooking |
| 04:35.14 | bigzero | khangg, gotta have fishing |
| 04:35.22 | khangg | not a fan of it |
| 04:35.33 | khangg | but i'll probably have to take itup |
| 04:35.45 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, why do you go back to shatt? stay in org. You can't be using the alchemy lab that much... |
| 04:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: i'm not an alchy, actually. and everything -else- i do is in outlands, raid, quest, meet guildies to make pots. :P |
| 04:37.01 | bigzero | man, i love being a mage |
| 04:38.14 | RaydenUni | as a pally tank? just spam aoe? :D |
| 04:40.18 | bigzero | is it just me or the Ravenguards (the double pulls by like each doorway) in Heroic Sethekk hit hard? |
| 04:41.38 | bigzero | that or maybe my healer sucked, 'cause he couldn't keep me up when tanking both of them |
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| 04:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | If i recall, they do hit a little hard, i guess it depends on your gear level though |
| 04:46.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I had no trouble keeping a kara-geared pally tank up |
| 04:47.38 | bigzero | Antiarc, ping |
| 04:47.46 | Antiarc | pong |
| 04:48.57 | bigzero | i'm looking at Omen, was wondering why you had Skins saved under db.account.Skins and under db.profile.CurrentSkinSettings What's the difference between the two? |
| 04:49.36 | bigzero | is db.account.Skins like a whole list of skins with their settings? |
| 04:50.01 | RaydenUni | so druids don't have an equivalent to Taunt? |
| 04:50.03 | khangg | nn all |
| 04:50.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Growl |
| 04:50.27 | RaydenUni | growl is 1 target |
| 04:50.29 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, well, i'm not raid geared...was getting hit for like 1.5-2.5k |
| 04:50.32 | NightHawkTheSane | so is taunt |
| 04:50.37 | RaydenUni | oh wait |
| 04:50.44 | bigzero | we also have an aoe taunt |
| 04:50.51 | RaydenUni | challenging shout? |
| 04:51.05 | RaydenUni | so warriors have 2 single target and 1 aoe? |
| 04:51.11 | RaydenUni | druid have 1 single target and 1 aoe? |
| 04:51.12 | NightHawkTheSane | challenging shout is a 10 minute aoe "taunt", and the druid equivalent is challenging roar |
| 04:51.27 | bigzero | RaydenUni, what's the 2nd single target taunt for warr? |
| 04:51.29 | NightHawkTheSane | if you call mocking blow a taunt, which it really isn't, then y es |
| 04:51.33 | RaydenUni | mocking blow |
| 04:51.36 | RaydenUni | how is it not? |
| 04:51.38 | RaydenUni | it forces aggro |
| 04:51.39 | bigzero | oh, hmmm, i guess |
| 04:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not a taunt |
| 04:51.53 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a "this mob hit sme for the next 6 seconds" ability |
| 04:51.56 | RaydenUni | yeah it does dmg and adds threat, but it forces aggro |
| 04:52.04 | RaydenUni | how would you describe a taunt? |
| 04:52.05 | NightHawkTheSane | taunt actually GIVES the warrior/druid agro |
| 04:52.18 | RaydenUni | aggro or threat? |
| 04:52.22 | NightHawkTheSane | agro. |
| 04:52.30 | bigzero | yeah, with a taunt you get the highest agro for that mob, so after it's gone, odds are the mob stays on you |
| 04:52.32 | RaydenUni | how is that different than mockin blow? |
| 04:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | taunt sets the warrior/druid's threat equal to the highest on the agro table |
| 04:52.42 | NightHawkTheSane | mocking blow gives you N threat, and forces the mob to attack you for the next 6 seconds |
| 04:52.48 | RaydenUni | Taunt gives you threat equal to whoever had aggro, Growl doesn't do that i don't think |
| 04:52.54 | NightHawkTheSane | also, jesus, look this stuff up, its horribly well documented. |
| 04:52.55 | Antiarc | Yes it does |
| 04:52.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, the druid growl does |
| 04:52.58 | Antiarc | Growl = Taunt |
| 04:52.58 | RaydenUni | i'm looking on wowwiki |
| 04:53.12 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid:Growl |
| 04:53.18 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warrior_Taunt |
| 04:53.21 | RaydenUni | guess the growl page just sucks |
| 04:53.22 | bigzero | so Antiarc, did i understand the Skin thing right? |
| 04:53.29 | Antiarc | sec, supremus |
| 04:53.32 | RaydenUni | i only came here cause wowwiki is confusing |
| 04:53.43 | RaydenUni | is there a place i can find the threat of all abilities? |
| 04:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | threatlib's code would probably be a good place |
| 04:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | last i checked, there was a good thread on the EJ forums |
| 04:54.39 | bigzero | they have threat tables on wowwiki too |
| 04:54.54 | bigzero | http://www.wowwiki.com/Threat |
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| 04:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | interestingly, that page looks like its missing mocking blow |
| 04:57.25 | Antiarc | bigzero: Yes you have the skins thing right |
| 04:57.33 | Antiarc | The .Skins is a list of saved skins |
| 04:57.35 | bigzero | Lacerate: +285 innate, -80% on Bleed and Instant damage, so the innate threat only gets applied when you land the first one? or whenever you land one? |
| 04:57.47 | bigzero | Antiarc, thanks |
| 04:57.48 | Antiarc | whenever |
| 04:58.22 | RaydenUni | cower is nifty |
| 04:58.41 | bigzero | demo roar only +42 threat :-( |
| 04:58.42 | Aens|Superiority | ... |
| 04:59.10 | bigzero | oh, and it's diided among targets? |
| 04:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:59.22 | bigzero | that sucks |
| 04:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:59.36 | RaydenUni | so they really don't ahve much that's aoe |
| 04:59.43 | Antiarc | Demo is 42 / #targets |
| 04:59.48 | Antiarc | It's basically worthless for threat |
| 04:59.57 | bigzero | RaydenUni, it's pretty much the same value for warriors though |
| 05:00.00 | Antiarc | It is |
| 05:00.09 | Antiarc | Thunderclap = warrior AOE tanking |
| 05:00.14 | NightHawkTheSane | and druids have swipe |
| 05:00.16 | bigzero | oh, right |
| 05:00.17 | NightHawkTheSane | which is close |
| 05:00.21 | bigzero | swipe is cleave |
| 05:00.27 | NightHawkTheSane | swipe is better than cleave |
| 05:00.29 | bigzero | also divided by targets |
| 05:00.31 | RaydenUni | battle shout, yeah i guess so |
| 05:00.41 | Antiarc | Battle Shout is nearly no threat |
| 05:00.42 | RaydenUni | swipe is more targets right? |
| 05:00.44 | RaydenUni | cleave is only 1? |
| 05:00.48 | Antiarc | They nerfed it due to people using it to tank the Twin Emps |
| 05:00.49 | RaydenUni | +1 |
| 05:00.49 | NightHawkTheSane | more targets, and instant |
| 05:00.54 | Dezzimal | shield slam doesn't have base threat? |
| 05:00.58 | Antiarc | Cleave is 2 targets max and eats your swing, so no rage |
| 05:01.03 | RaydenUni | Shield Slam +307 (rank 6) |
| 05:01.10 | bigzero | cleave is only 2 targets? |
| 05:01.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:01.16 | bigzero | hmm |
| 05:01.22 | Dezzimal | oh I was looking at auras |
| 05:01.24 | Antiarc | Shield slam is 307 threat + damage |
| 05:01.32 | bigzero | well, still swipe has no extra threat besides the dmg, right? |
| 05:01.38 | RaydenUni | so why are druids not as good at tanking multiple targets? |
| 05:01.46 | Antiarc | Correct, bigzero |
| 05:01.49 | RaydenUni | just the 1.3X from bear form i would think |
| 05:01.54 | NightHawkTheSane | druids are great at tanking multiple targets... |
| 05:01.56 | RaydenUni | or is that already calculated |
| 05:02.03 | Antiarc | Druids tank multiple targets just fine |
| 05:02.12 | bigzero | we get our thorns :-) |
| 05:02.12 | Antiarc | Though if you want an AOE tank you get a paladin |
| 05:02.13 | RaydenUni | ok, let's assume i know nothing about druids since i seem to be getting everything wrong |
| 05:02.23 | RaydenUni | what are the differences between warrior and druid tanking? |
| 05:02.24 | NightHawkTheSane | that's a given, RaydenUni |
| 05:02.32 | Antiarc | Druid tanking has 3 buttons |
| 05:02.35 | bigzero | warrior can be uncrushable |
| 05:02.36 | Antiarc | Warrior tanking has 94 buttons |
| 05:02.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: 94, if you're feeling lazy. |
| 05:02.48 | Antiarc | Druids can tank by rolling their faces on the keyboards. |
| 05:03.02 | bigzero | lol, Antiarc, so true |
| 05:03.11 | bigzero | i smash 3 buttons |
| 05:03.20 | bigzero | mangle, maul, and lacerate |
| 05:03.29 | RaydenUni | hm |
| 05:03.34 | Dezzimal | paladins are pretty easy too |
| 05:03.36 | NightHawkTheSane | druids also have more rage than their entire raid could use up.. warriors tend.. not to. |
| 05:03.37 | Antiarc | One of our druids uses Taunt every time it's up |
| 05:03.39 | RaydenUni | some of my guildmates dont seem to care for druid tanks |
| 05:03.39 | bigzero | i actually enjoy letting people pull...then i get to charge and taunt |
| 05:03.41 | Antiarc | I'm convinced he's not being stupid |
| 05:03.42 | bigzero | it's fun |
| 05:03.44 | RaydenUni | i've never had a problem with them if they are geared |
| 05:03.44 | Dezzimal | I tanked ZA on one and I hadn't really played a paladin before lol |
| 05:03.51 | Antiarc | He's just adding another button to keep him from shooting himself from boredom |
| 05:03.55 | Dezzimal | Consecrate, Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield |
| 05:03.58 | Dezzimal | spam as needed |
| 05:04.09 | RaydenUni | i thought i heard at some point that druids make better off tanks for raiding |
| 05:04.17 | Dezzimal | not really |
| 05:04.20 | RaydenUni | any explanation for that or did i just hear someone saying something stupid |
| 05:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they do in general, due to superior rage generation from base damage |
| 05:04.30 | RaydenUni | i guess druids don't have Sunder Armor, that's probbably the big one? |
| 05:04.34 | Antiarc | We use War MT, War/Druid/Druid OTs |
| 05:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | along with clearcasting procs to make rage use a bit more efficiant |
| 05:04.42 | Antiarc | Holy paladin AOE tank for Hyjal trash |
| 05:04.48 | Ellipsis | druid equivalent of sunder threat-wise is lacerate... |
| 05:04.49 | bigzero | RaydenUni, lacerate for threat...fairy fire for armor |
| 05:05.10 | RaydenUni | oh hmm |
| 05:05.12 | bigzero | though the armor part is kinda silly |
| 05:05.20 | bigzero | but every little bit helps |
| 05:05.21 | RaydenUni | does FF stack? |
| 05:05.25 | bigzero | nope |
| 05:05.39 | bigzero | plus it has decent threat associated with it |
| 05:05.50 | RaydenUni | +108 vs + 301 x5 |
| 05:05.55 | RaydenUni | FF vs SA |
| 05:05.56 | bigzero | Antiarc, do you know if you get extra threat if you keep renewing FF? |
| 05:06.00 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 05:06.09 | bigzero | ah, good, need to spam it more then |
| 05:06.19 | Antiarc | Well |
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| 05:06.29 | Antiarc | Druids don't usually have problems out-threatting DPS |
| 05:06.45 | bigzero | hmmm....i still do :-( |
| 05:06.46 | RaydenUni | FF in feral costs mana? |
| 05:06.50 | bigzero | no |
| 05:06.50 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 05:06.52 | bigzero | lol |
| 05:06.56 | Wobwork | "Oh no! Bear is driving! How could this be?!" |
| 05:07.05 | Antiarc | It costs a GCD |
| 05:07.06 | Antiarc | That's it |
| 05:07.20 | RaydenUni | man |
| 05:07.27 | RaydenUni | i really really need to get my druid to level up |
| 05:07.34 | bigzero | Also warr>druid because of the fear |
| 05:07.56 | RaydenUni | how often does the tank use fear in a dungeon? |
| 05:08.02 | bigzero | it's useful |
| 05:08.13 | NightHawkTheSane | never in raids |
| 05:08.21 | RaydenUni | how do they compare in armor and health? |
| 05:08.23 | NightHawkTheSane | in 5 mans i only ever used intimidating shout if things looked bad. |
| 05:08.29 | NightHawkTheSane | druids have more armor and health. |
| 05:08.36 | NightHawkTheSane | warriors have more avoidance, and the ability to become uncrushable |
| 05:08.48 | bigzero | they can block + parry |
| 05:08.54 | bigzero | defense is more useful to them |
| 05:09.29 | bigzero | i'm glad they made it possible for druids to shift in and out to use a pot in an instant...otherwise that would be a big advantage for a warrior |
| 05:09.48 | NightHawkTheSane | can they do that now? |
| 05:09.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I assume you use some kind of macro for that? mind pasting it? :) |
| 05:10.01 | bigzero | yeah, i just discovered it like a month ago lol |
| 05:10.21 | bigzero | . /cancelform /use Pot /cast Dire Bear Form |
| 05:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
| 05:10.44 | bigzero | i did the same for fel blossom |
| 05:10.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll have to do that on my druid |
| 05:11.01 | RaydenUni | woah, very nice |
| 05:12.01 | bigzero | hmmm, druids wouldn't get more armor from ironshield pot in bear form would they? |
| 05:12.30 | RaydenUni | man this really bugs me |
| 05:12.40 | Antiarc | No, bigzero |
| 05:12.40 | RaydenUni | that my druid is low level |
| 05:12.49 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 05:15.54 | bigzero | i made so many ironshield pots to try and discover flasks and now noone wants them....so gay |
| 05:16.06 | bigzero | i have like 40 stacks sitting in my banks |
| 05:16.46 | bigzero | i still think it's somewhat better than a healing pot |
| 05:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | if the fight is mostly physical damage, it is |
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| 05:18.04 | RaydenUni | i really wish i could queue one character for AV and then play on another |
| 05:18.10 | Industrial | haha |
| 05:18.11 | bigzero | two accounts? |
| 05:18.18 | Industrial | av is like one minute |
| 05:18.20 | Industrial | to begin |
| 05:18.24 | RaydenUni | i want to get honor on my shadow priest but level my druid |
| 05:18.26 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 05:18.31 | RaydenUni | wait on my server is 1 hr 20 min |
| 05:18.35 | Industrial | what lol |
| 05:18.44 | RaydenUni | alliance boycott |
| 05:18.46 | RaydenUni | are you alliance? |
| 05:18.46 | Industrial | we have like 15 av's running from 6-12PM |
| 05:18.47 | bigzero | Industrial, which pvp bracket are you in? |
| 05:18.52 | Industrial | misery EU |
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| 05:19.09 | RaydenUni | AV wait has been over 45 minutes for about 2 weeks i'd say |
| 05:19.11 | Industrial | boulderfist kazzak grim batol and uh something else |
| 05:19.19 | RaydenUni | horde or alliance? |
| 05:19.23 | Industrial | horde |
| 05:19.26 | RaydenUni | i expect alliance waits on Rampage would be pretty short |
| 05:19.27 | bigzero | US, Reckoning have short wait times too |
| 05:19.29 | Industrial | !c eu boulderfist seryan |
| 05:19.31 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 70 Troll Hunter (41/20/0). 6917 HP; 5068 Mana; 88 mana regen; 9 mp5; 3960 Armour; 1277 AP; 181.600 Melee DPS; 9.72% melee crit; 53 melee hit; 1222 RAP; 244.80 Ranged DPS; 15.20% ranged crit; 53 ranged hit; 9.12% dodge; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 1224 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25sr96 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y5he5 ][ Updated: Thu Jan 10 00:25:38 2008 EST ]] |
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| 05:20.22 | Industrial | I hate how I have to run av like 58 times before I can get another s1 piece |
| 05:20.34 | Industrial | 250 honor per match.. |
| 05:20.35 | RaydenUni | i just want one piece |
| 05:20.39 | RaydenUni | really? |
| 05:20.41 | bigzero | Crystalforged war axe...is that pretty good for hunters? |
| 05:20.44 | RaydenUni | i get around 600 honor per match |
| 05:20.48 | Industrial | if you win |
| 05:20.48 | Industrial | :P |
| 05:20.52 | RaydenUni | we always win |
| 05:20.57 | Industrial | we never win |
| 05:21.01 | RaydenUni | horde? |
| 05:21.07 | Industrial | bigzero: yes lollypop = win |
| 05:21.10 | Industrial | i have one :P |
| 05:21.14 | bigzero | lol |
| 05:21.19 | bigzero | i saw, that's why i asked |
| 05:21.22 | Industrial | ah ok |
| 05:21.27 | Industrial | whats not to like about it? |
| 05:21.31 | bigzero | dropped today, i won it...don't know if i should de or sell |
| 05:21.36 | Industrial | I cant get that stats with dual wield easily.. |
| 05:21.37 | RaydenUni | where is it from? |
| 05:21.45 | bigzero | world drop |
| 05:21.46 | bigzero | boe |
| 05:22.03 | RaydenUni | this mean atlasloot won't be able to find it |
| 05:22.13 | bigzero | but wowhead will |
| 05:22.33 | Industrial | 27 ctir 80 ap 50 stam |
| 05:22.35 | Industrial | crit |
| 05:22.48 | RaydenUni | oh that one |
| 05:23.30 | bigzero | ooo, armory updated for my druid... |
| 05:23.40 | bigzero | !c us Spirestone tucker |
| 05:23.42 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Tucker, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/47/14). 9717 HP; 5330 Mana; 110 mana regen; 5183 Armour; 94.600 Melee DPS; 8.68% melee crit; 27 melee hit; 165 defense; 22.87% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 292 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z2x58 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xhkz9 ][ Updated: Thu Jan 10 00:29:49 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:24.20 | bigzero | need to get shoulders, gloves, rings, and trinket |
| 05:24.29 | bigzero | then i'll be ok |
| 05:24.33 | Industrial | I need everything cept gloves |
| 05:24.46 | Industrial | I have 5600 honor atm |
| 05:26.12 | Industrial | RaydenUni: so 6:25 am and theres 4 av's :P |
| 05:27.46 | RaydenUni | we had like 6 |
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| 05:27.50 | RaydenUni | but wait was still over an hour |
| 05:30.39 | dre^ | so I guess its' not just my realm where alliance are boycotting AV? heh |
| 05:32.39 | Paene | ~seen Kaelten |
| 05:32.40 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11h 12m 34s ago, saying: 'he was right, but I've fixed it already'. |
| 05:33.42 | Industrial | boycotting av? |
| 05:33.44 | Industrial | alliance? |
| 05:33.46 | Industrial | they have no right |
| 05:33.48 | Industrial | :| |
| 05:33.59 | Industrial | they win every time the bastards and they say its unfair? gfto. |
| 05:34.00 | dre^ | haha, sure they do |
| 05:34.16 | dre^ | alliance wins AV every time on your battlegroup? |
| 05:34.19 | dre^ | are you serious? |
| 05:34.21 | Industrial | yes |
| 05:34.22 | Paene | Any svn admins on? |
| 05:34.26 | dre^ | holy crap, lol |
| 05:34.27 | Paene | er |
| 05:34.28 | Paene | around? |
| 05:34.42 | Industrial | well its about 50/50 : |
| 05:34.43 | Industrial | :p |
| 05:34.45 | dre^ | I've lost AV once since 2.3 came out... |
| 05:34.54 | dre^ | but that's cause they're boycotting so they always have a lot of AFK |
| 05:34.56 | RaydenUni | about the same for me, horde |
| 05:35.04 | Industrial | lol how |
| 05:35.08 | dre^ | er yeah I'm horde |
| 05:35.12 | bigzero | i don't get the point of http://www.wowplotter.com/ |
| 05:35.15 | RaydenUni | we're about to dominate them again |
| 05:35.17 | dre^ | how? they just don't queue for it |
| 05:35.36 | Industrial | no how do you win it every time |
| 05:35.50 | dre^ | they have 10 - 15 AFK every time |
| 05:35.52 | dre^ | at leaset |
| 05:35.57 | dre^ | so it's not hard |
| 05:36.10 | dre^ | stupid stormstrike alliance and their demoralized selves... so sad |
| 05:37.13 | dre^ | haha contrary to the name of that site, it's not actually plotting anything on the maps... |
| 05:37.33 | RaydenUni | defense wins it |
| 05:37.36 | RaydenUni | and hrode figured that out |
| 05:37.41 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 05:38.01 | dre^ | it only wins if you die less than your opponent |
| 05:38.08 | dre^ | which is why ally turtle no longer works |
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| 05:38.16 | dre^ | holding ground is no longer enough |
| 05:38.31 | dre^ | defense + better kill ratio wins, just like offense + better kill ratio wins |
| 05:39.52 | dre^ | the odd part to me is that I would have expected the 2.3 mechanics to heavily favor alliance, as they generally seem more able to use the "run in a pile" tactic. horde is laregely composed of indiana jones types, want to go it alone |
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| 05:40.09 | dre^ | at least on stormstrike :) |
| 05:40.40 | RaydenUni | i never played AV before 2.3 |
| 05:40.44 | dre^ | oh wow, heh |
| 05:40.45 | RaydenUni | so i just know we always win |
| 05:41.06 | RaydenUni | 11 reinf left, can we kill vann? |
| 05:41.23 | dre^ | possible, he dies a lot faster these days |
| 05:41.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I havn't seriously done AV since the "well, I'm going to do some AV, so i'll clear my calendar for the next two days" period |
| 05:41.33 | bigzero | dre^, so true about horde...we like to solo stuff |
| 05:41.55 | RaydenUni | nope |
| 05:42.01 | RaydenUni | so close though |
| 05:42.07 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, lol, i haven't done bgs in a long long time |
| 05:42.20 | RaydenUni | 606 bonus honor for horde, 20 bonus honor for alliance |
| 05:42.23 | RaydenUni | that's why they are boycotting |
| 05:42.26 | bigzero | I don't think i even have Eye of the Storm on my rep page |
| 05:42.28 | dre^ | bigzero: heh yeah... I think what actually happened on stormstrike is that due to the specifics of how stormstrike alliance were playing AV, they ended up losing a lot right after 2.3... then they got demoralized and decided not to try, so now they never win / don't queue for it |
| 05:43.06 | dre^ | as usual, morale is once again the most influential factor... more than 'map imbalance' or 'pvp racials' or anything |
| 05:43.27 | RaydenUni | probably |
| 05:43.34 | dre^ | if they all play they stand a good chance of winning |
| 05:43.36 | RaydenUni | morale is important in team competitions |
| 05:43.48 | dre^ | if 1/2 of them play, they will get rolled every time |
| 05:43.55 | RaydenUni | looks like 1 more day of bg for my mace |
| 05:44.20 | RaydenUni | and then need 14 more badges for Orb of the Soul Eater |
| 05:44.29 | dre^ | bigzero: there is no EoTS rep, thankfully, heh |
| 05:44.40 | RaydenUni | what is the rep good for anyways? |
| 05:44.48 | RaydenUni | i don't think any pvp rep rewards are any good for me |
| 05:45.15 | dre^ | in the case of frostwolf or warsong, not a whole lot... with fw you get a trinket, and with both you get a tabbard at exalted |
| 05:45.25 | dre^ | the faction pvp rewards are best while leveling |
| 05:45.54 | dre^ | my first epic is always those level 40 bracers, heh |
| 05:46.25 | RaydenUni | faction reward? for where? |
| 05:46.35 | dre^ | like wsg or arathi rewards |
| 05:46.43 | dre^ | each have a camp out in teh world with vendors |
| 05:46.44 | RaydenUni | faction reward is different than the tokens ones right? |
| 05:46.50 | dre^ | yes |
| 05:47.03 | RaydenUni | cause i know about the normal rewards |
| 05:47.13 | dre^ | there is no 'normal' ;) |
| 05:47.30 | RaydenUni | the ones you trade in marks for |
| 05:47.55 | dre^ | honor rewards, arena rewards... not sure exactly what they call the wsg / arathi ones... |
| 05:48.25 | dre^ | marks are used for both the lvl 70 honor rewards, season 1 arena gear, and also the wsg / arathi stuff |
| 05:48.28 | Industrial | rofl |
| 05:48.31 | dre^ | and that's three things not two, heh |
| 05:48.35 | Industrial | 62 honor last 3 av's |
| 05:48.40 | Industrial | sad, sad world |
| 05:48.50 | RaydenUni | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/warsong/index.html |
| 05:48.54 | RaydenUni | WSG rewards |
| 05:49.01 | dre^ | yeah that's lame. try to encourage your team-mates to try ;) |
| 05:49.03 | RaydenUni | you turn in honor and WSG marks |
| 05:49.15 | Industrial | there were 15 playing |
| 05:49.21 | RaydenUni | but what about rep rewards? |
| 05:49.30 | RaydenUni | cause for AV getting rep with the faction gets you those trinkets right? |
| 05:49.37 | RaydenUni | are there similar things for AB and WSG? |
| 05:49.37 | dre^ | jsut one trinket |
| 05:49.40 | dre^ | but there are many levels of it |
| 05:49.54 | dre^ | only real item you get with the pvp factions is the tabbard, I think |
| 05:50.00 | Industrial | they should upgrade all the pvp faction rewards to 70 imho |
| 05:50.19 | Industrial | thats why you used to play av :P unstoppable force!!!rofl |
| 05:50.24 | dre^ | there's plenty of lvl 70 stuff that's great already though |
| 05:50.44 | dre^ | though more pvp *rep* rewards would be nice |
| 05:51.08 | dre^ | I'm getting close to exalted with all three... frostwolf is done, wsg is close... |
| 05:51.29 | dre^ | just want the title, the tabbers are fairly unimpressive |
| 05:51.32 | dre^ | tabbards |
| 05:52.21 | dre^ | problem with the pvp rewards you get while leveling is that ... leveling is so fast, it's kinda worthless to try to save up for one, heh |
| 05:52.28 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 05:52.35 | RaydenUni | low level pvp rewards need fewer marks |
| 05:52.45 | RaydenUni | getting 20 or 30 WSG marks at lvl 19 is a lot |
| 05:52.51 | RaydenUni | you have way more honor than you need |
| 05:54.34 | RaydenUni | do speedy boots makes druids move faster when shapeshifted? |
| 05:54.38 | dre^ | sure do |
| 05:54.48 | dre^ | even travel form iirc |
| 05:54.51 | RaydenUni | so you can get 41% speed? |
| 05:54.58 | dre^ | wowwiki has a nice page on it |
| 05:55.13 | dre^ | "minor speed" or "boar's speed" are both 8% I think |
| 05:55.41 | RaydenUni | and AB boots? |
| 05:55.46 | dre^ | same I'm sure |
| 05:55.51 | dre^ | same with the meta gem |
| 05:56.44 | dre^ | http://www.forgoodnotevil.com/druid/speed.html |
| 05:57.29 | dre^ | I guess there's also a gear set that increases movement speed |
| 05:59.01 | Lukian | <dre^> even travel form iirc <- no |
| 05:59.12 | Lukian | they don't stack at all |
| 05:59.39 | dre^ | yeah apparently it doesn't... |
| 06:00.08 | dre^ | interesting that the boots will help while running in cat form, but not while stealthed or dashing |
| 06:00.22 | dre^ | oh wait, it DOES help in prowl, but not dash |
| 06:00.30 | dre^ | but NOT in dash + prowl |
| 06:00.37 | xyu` | Hmm i need a history class for my MACRO, which sounds more interesting, world history to 1500, or world history since 1500? :D |
| 06:01.00 | Lukian | yes that's true, it does benefit prowl (indoors) |
| 06:01.31 | Lukian | and indoor movement |
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| 06:05.00 | yssaril | am trying to use the AceEvent function myaddon:ScheduleRepeatingEvent("Query_tracke", 1) but it never triggers the myaddon:Query_tracke function |
| 06:05.05 | yssaril | what am i doing wrong |
| 06:08.51 | dre^ | are there any sites that have high resolution wow videos that don't require a subscription? |
| 06:09.23 | dre^ | warcraftmovies.com unfortuantely fails to provide file downloads all the time... and the 'streaming' is pathetic quality |
| 06:10.34 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r756 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (Config.lua ControlFreak.lua ControlFreak.toc Locale.lua): ControlFreak - Localized creature types |
| 06:10.35 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r757 10/trunk/ (60 files in 60 dirs): Meaningless TOC update (yes I know 20302 isn't a real TOC, but hey there were significant UI changes in that patch) |
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| 06:16.23 | CIA-4 | 03kemayo * r58162 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Fix DB initialization. |
| 06:17.32 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r758 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Tagging PenisAttachment-2.3.2.1, tweaks to package script |
| 06:17.52 | Arrowmaster | fix your damn cia script |
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| 06:20.02 | Unspokenfor | can someone help me make a pretty easy and simple script, if so PM me |
| 06:36.33 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r759 10/ (61 files in 61 dirs): Revert, fuck you haste |
| 06:36.40 | haste | haha |
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| 06:43.12 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r58163 10GuildEventLogExporter/: Created folder remotely |
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| 06:44.05 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r58164 10GuildEventLogExporter/ (GuildEventLog.lua GuildEventLogExporter.toc): |
| 06:44.05 | CIA-4 | GuildEventLogExporter: |
| 06:44.05 | CIA-4 | -A Simple Log Exporter that grabs what's there and saves it to SV |
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| 07:00.41 | Hey-WTF | Tekkub: I have a 12-20 Bloodmyst guide that I created from scratch - do you want to see it, or are you happy with the current one? |
| 07:01.31 | Tekkub | toss it on gcode, always nice to compare and pick out good notes and such |
| 07:02.17 | Thelyna | k, will do, just gotta add one last quest sequence to it |
| 07:02.56 | Thelyna | I landed up making level 21 on my warrior just playing the guide, I might roll a priest through there now so I can test the full guide and add those class quests |
| 07:03.23 | Thelyna | unfortunately I'm raiding then sleeping then working, so earliest I can possibly look at it will be about this time tommorow |
| 07:03.58 | Tekkub | heh |
| 07:04.41 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r58165 10GuildEventLogExporter/ (. GuildEventLog.lua): GuildEventLogExporter: Add Slash command and fix variable bug |
| 07:05.06 | Orionshock | odd question, do variables that start with a capital letter imply that it's in the global scope?? |
| 07:05.19 | Tekkub | no |
| 07:05.28 | Thelyna | I landed up making one huuuuge quest loop from cryo-core -> vindicator's rest -> that gnome dude -> the other little island |
| 07:05.30 | Orionshock | .. it was acting like it |
| 07:05.39 | yssaril | just means you aren't lazy enough to not hit shift :P |
| 07:06.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.24 | Tekkub | a nice loop thru cryo-core ONCE is good |
| 07:06.35 | Tekkub | kopp's is very back and forth |
| 07:06.41 | Tekkub | go to the core twice... |
| 07:06.52 | Tekkub | run to ruins, town, ruins again |
| 07:07.05 | Tekkub | I tried to smoothe it out, but I didn't test it |
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| 07:19.32 | Thelyna | yeah, what I did was, basically, run to town, check current quests, cross off orange ones, try and make a loop out of my current quests, do that loop, tun in, collect new quests, repeat |
| 07:19.50 | Thelyna | so while it may not be perfectly optimal, it's pretty close |
| 07:19.58 | Thelyna | s/tun/turn |
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| 07:42.04 | ckknight | Orionshock: my guess: capitalization typo |
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| 07:46.35 | Orionshock | mmm... it was all copy and paste ... |
| 07:47.17 | Killmore | is it normal, im running without externals and my assesment take 2.84mib. All the data was removed before and I did a reloadui |
| 07:47.51 | Orionshock | Killmore: Assessment starts with "A" so all of it's libs get blamed for mem useage |
| 07:48.00 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.57 | Antiarc | http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSL0925836220080109?rpc=64 |
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| 08:25.11 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r58166 10AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc): |
| 08:25.11 | CIA-4 | AlarLib |
| 08:25.11 | CIA-4 | New function: FrameAddScript(frame,hook,function) |
| 08:27.02 | bigzero | :-/ |
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| 08:28.43 | Viras | hoi |
| 08:28.46 | Viras | anyone alive? |
| 08:29.14 | vithos | gu |
| 08:29.15 | Paene | hi |
| 08:29.16 | vithos | hi |
| 08:30.36 | Paene | ~svn |
| 08:30.37 | purl | Subversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/. |
| 08:30.41 | Paene | ~admin |
| 08:31.46 | Antiarc | ~uat |
| 08:31.47 | purl | hmm... uat is Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight, especially so-called "Universal" Fisker Time, which is just a sorry excuse for supposed "time" and will instead just be laughed at. |
| 08:32.14 | Paene | lol |
| 08:32.34 | Paene | Antiarc, you don't happen to be a svn admin do you? |
| 08:32.47 | Antiarc | If you mean one of the people that hands out SVN accounts, no |
| 08:32.53 | Antiarc | If you mean someone with commit access to SVN, yes |
| 08:32.56 | Paene | lol |
| 08:33.13 | winkiller | I'm in ur svnz, committing ur changez |
| 08:33.47 | Paene | need me password reset, sent an e-mail to the svn-requests thing, and Kaelten said he was gonna process the e-mails, but then he never did and has thus disappeared :-/ |
| 08:34.18 | Antiarc | He was out of town for a while and is swamped with work right now |
| 08:34.21 | Paene | ah ic |
| 08:34.23 | Antiarc | But I suspect he'll surface before long |
| 08:34.43 | Paene | just sucks I can't commit changes :-/ makes me wonder how I ever lived without SVN or any other type of CVS |
| 08:35.14 | Paene | new comp, so I can't check out the latest version from dev.wowace.com |
| 08:35.24 | Paene | without the password :-/ |
| 08:36.08 | Antiarc | webmail for the win in these cases |
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| 08:36.34 | Paene | actually, I could prob just check out the latest from svn.wowace, then once I get my pass I could commit my changes |
| 08:37.03 | Paene | Any idea who else other than Kaelten can admin the svn server? |
| 08:37.48 | Antiarc | pastamancer can, I believe |
| 08:40.01 | bigzero | Antiarc, how does wow remember Omen frame position? I don't see you save it anywhere... |
| 08:40.18 | Antiarc | bigzero: It's saved in there somewhere |
| 08:40.19 | Antiarc | Lemme see |
| 08:40.40 | Paene | doesn't WoW save all UI mod anchors on reloadui and logout? |
| 08:40.46 | bigzero | you call :setanchors on mouse up |
| 08:40.52 | Viras | I currently working on a new addOn, and started to develop it using Ace2 - now I'm a bit irritated because Ace3 and Rock seem to be a better alternative - shall I switch now or is it just fine to develop a new AddOn with Ace2? |
| 08:40.58 | bigzero | i can't find the function though |
| 08:41.04 | Viras | *I'm |
| 08:41.05 | Antiarc | self.db.profile.PositionX, self.db.profile.PositionY |
| 08:41.12 | Paene | I think Ace3 is still beta isn't it? |
| 08:41.17 | Antiarc | Omen:SetAnchors(useDB) is in OmenDisplay.lua |
| 08:41.59 | Viras | well yes - but at least Rock seems to be ready for a ride or? |
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| 08:42.25 | Paene | I don't know enough significant differences between Rock and Ace2 to give you a good answer :-/ |
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| 08:42.53 | Paene | I know Rock is a branch of Ace2 by ckknight due to some disagreements with the Ace2 developers on how libraries should be structures |
| 08:42.56 | Paene | *structured |
| 08:43.00 | Paene | but that's about it |
| 08:43.02 | Paene | ~Rock |
| 08:43.03 | purl | from memory, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 08:43.03 | Viras | yeah I read that |
| 08:43.12 | bigzero | Antiarc, thanks...I was saving all of the db.account and db.profile with UIGnome anyway, so it should work |
| 08:43.39 | Viras | ;) |
| 08:43.48 | Paene | There are some mods currently being rewritten in Ace3 |
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| 08:43.57 | Viras | I think I will just continue with Ace2 for now then - and wait what the future will bring |
| 08:43.59 | Paene | I know there's an Ace3 version of ag_UnitFrames |
| 08:44.16 | Viras | Ace2 at least is solid and stable - and so I can be pretty sure that any bugs that occur are my own :-) |
| 08:44.17 | bigzero | Ace2 for the time being is the best choice imo |
| 08:44.28 | bigzero | since Ace3 isn't in trunk yet |
| 08:44.28 | Paene | Viras: that's what I'm doing with my mod...gonna wait for more Ace3 mods to come out |
| 08:44.57 | Elkano | Paene, I don't think Rock is a branch |
| 08:45.00 | Viras | I guess I will wait then too. |
| 08:45.04 | bigzero | Viras, heh, you wouldn't be saying that if you were here this morning |
| 08:45.17 | Viras | lol - why what happened? ;) |
| 08:45.26 | bigzero | AceComm broke |
| 08:45.33 | Paene | Elkano: well, it wasn't a branch, but it wasn't a complete recode either. A lot of the Rock libraries were Ace2 libs originally |
| 08:45.34 | Viras | oh really? |
| 08:45.38 | Viras | I'm using AceComm ;) |
| 08:45.40 | bigzero | but it all got fixed |
| 08:45.59 | Viras | I c - so the latest version should be save again? |
| 08:46.26 | bigzero | actually it seems that it's been broken for a couple months, the bug was just very rare |
| 08:46.32 | Paene | so I just recently discovered Babbel-Spell |
| 08:46.34 | Viras | what was it? |
| 08:46.36 | Paene | and I think I'm in love |
| 08:46.39 | bigzero | now it works fine and dandy |
| 08:46.41 | Viras | (what was the bug :)) |
| 08:46.57 | bigzero | you couldn't send single strings |
| 08:47.06 | bigzero | everything you sent had to be a table |
| 08:47.13 | Viras | because with my version I currently have some probs with the send accross the guild channel |
| 08:47.15 | Viras | oh |
| 08:47.16 | bigzero | otherwise it would break |
| 08:47.19 | Viras | well then I need an update |
| 08:47.28 | Viras | because that's exactly what I'm doing ;) |
| 08:48.01 | bigzero | and it was working for you? |
| 08:48.06 | Viras | I just had the prob that it sometimes worked and sometimes didn't |
| 08:48.11 | Viras | nope not really |
| 08:48.18 | Viras | only parts of the string did come out at the other end |
| 08:48.22 | Viras | e.g. I did a version sync |
| 08:48.23 | bigzero | well, perhaps it will work now |
| 08:48.37 | Viras | and in addition I'm sending a commID accross the guild channel |
| 08:48.46 | Viras | and sometimes just the commID came out as the version flag |
| 08:48.50 | Viras | so it was kinda strange |
| 08:49.00 | Viras | I will give it a try when I come home |
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| 08:53.39 | Paene | is there a newer version of Babble-Spell-2.2? I don't see 2.2 anywhere... |
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| 08:54.13 | bigzero | i think there is |
| 08:54.25 | Paene | LibBabble-Spell-3.0? |
| 08:54.25 | Arrowmaster | its in Babble-2.2 |
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| 08:54.47 | Viras | btw another question: There is no GUI lib for Ace or? I'm currently using the WOW UI Designer (yes I'm a lazy ass) to create my widgets - anything wrong with that? |
| 08:55.16 | Paene | Most people will tell you to use the Widget API |
| 08:55.19 | Paene | instead of XML |
| 08:55.30 | bigzero | well, depends on what you are designing |
| 08:55.47 | ckknight | XML can suck my adequately-sized dick |
| 08:56.01 | ckknight | (I don't want to make anyone else uncomfortable) |
| 08:56.02 | bigzero | I prefer XML for frames with lots of stuff in them |
| 08:56.30 | bigzero | easier to organize imo than in lua |
| 08:56.52 | Kalroth | ckknight: How do you know it's adequately-sized? You spend a lot of time looking at others cocks?! |
| 08:56.53 | wereHamster | < Paene> doesn't WoW save all UI mod anchors on reloadui and logout? - it does, but always relative to the bottom left corner of the screen |
| 08:57.23 | bigzero | ORLY? |
| 08:57.23 | ckknight | Kalroth: well, I don't want to make anyone else feel inadequate by revealing the true size |
| 08:57.28 | Elkano | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.38 | ckknight | I'm just thinking of others |
| 08:57.46 | Paene | lol |
| 08:57.53 | ckknight | Elkano: I'm not even sure how you'd penetrate with one that small |
| 08:58.01 | Arrowmaster | i thought that was changed and it saved relative to the closest corner |
| 08:58.10 | Viras | ckknight: It was always enough to satisfy myself ;) |
| 08:58.28 | ckknight | Elkano: my guess is that it's more of a Q-M situation |
| 08:58.34 | ckknight | give or take |
| 08:58.34 | Paene | Arrowmaster: yeah, I think they changed it from bottomleft to closest corner awhile back |
| 08:58.37 | wereHamster | a->z is half the width on a german keyboard :) |
| 08:58.51 | ckknight | wereHamster: nah, I'm bigger than that |
| 08:58.54 | Viras | but still on a german keyboard that would be quite small ;) |
| 08:59.00 | ckknight | granted, the keyboard itself could be miniature or gigantic |
| 08:59.07 | ckknight | we have to set some standard width |
| 08:59.16 | Paene | don't forget those foldup keyboards |
| 08:59.19 | ckknight | that isn't so relative |
| 08:59.22 | ckknight | Paene: right. |
| 08:59.23 | Paene | that could be quite painful |
| 08:59.56 | ckknight | I'm not so much for receiving pain |
| 08:59.58 | Paene | ckknight: you wouldn't happen to be a svn admin would you? :-p |
| 09:00.02 | ckknight | providing it is a separate matter |
| 09:00.12 | ckknight | Paene: if you're asking if I can give you an account, I don't have that access |
| 09:00.17 | Paene | damn |
| 09:00.40 | Viras | so desbite the fact that ckknight loves to get blowjobs from an XML scheme (I'm wondering how that would work :)), it is better to use the Widget API? Why is that? |
| 09:01.03 | Paene | I saw a thread on the forums explaining this...lemme see if I can find it |
| 09:01.38 | Paene | LibBabble-Spell-3.0? |
| 09:01.40 | Paene | doh |
| 09:01.47 | Paene | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10692.0 |
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| 09:02.12 | ckknigh1 | bah |
| 09:02.36 | Viras | ckknigh1: I'm sorry - didn't want to offend you - no need to leave the channel ;) |
| 09:02.44 | Paene | lol |
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| 09:03.56 | Viras | I c - thx a lot Paene |
| 09:03.59 | Paene | np |
| 09:04.05 | Viras | guess I will take a look at creating the frames by code |
| 09:04.18 | Viras | but right now the clicky stuff from WoW UI Designer seems to be more comftable :p |
| 09:04.23 | Paene | I personally use XML, but am meaning to switch over later once my mod is mostly done |
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| 09:05.09 | Paene | I'm still on my first mod, so I didn't know about the Widget API until after I already had my XML in place |
| 09:05.25 | Viras | well same here |
| 09:05.51 | Viras | this is also my first mod (although I have quite a lot of coding experience) so I'm still learning ;) |
| 09:06.15 | Paene | same |
| 09:06.30 | potemkin | is it possible |
| 09:06.32 | potemkin | to make a frame |
| 09:06.36 | potemkin | click throughable |
| 09:06.52 | potemkin | so i can c lick units even if im mousing over the frame |
| 09:07.53 | Elkano | well, for static frames the XML isn't that bad but if you want them dynamic XML is no use... |
| 09:09.20 | Viras | Elkano: yeah I need a dynamic widget anyway - I have a list which changes dynamically - so I guess a close look at the dynamic frame creation won't be bad |
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| 09:28.08 | Xinhuan | [1/10 16:24:56] <+CIA-10> alar * r58166 AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua AlarLib.toc): |
| 09:28.15 | Xinhuan | [1/10 16:24:56] <+CIA-10> New function: FrameAddScript(frame,hook,function) |
| 09:28.17 | Xinhuan | lol?? |
| 09:28.36 | Ellipsis | lolwut |
| 09:28.45 | Arrowmaster | i wish we could vote people off the svn |
| 09:29.25 | Ellipsis | you are the weakest dev. goodbye! |
| 09:29.41 | Xinhuan | why the fuck does he make 200 function wrappers |
| 09:30.45 | Arrowmaster | lol he cant even do embeds right |
| 09:31.05 | Paene | ~Belazar |
| 09:31.14 | Paene | ~seen Belazar |
| 09:31.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'belazar', Paene |
| 09:31.18 | Paene | hm... |
| 09:31.31 | Paene | ~seen Belazor |
| 09:31.32 | purl | belazor <n=belazor@149-66-6.231210.adsl.tele2.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 51d 10h 11m 39s ago, saying: 'and what part of wowui tries to override that'. |
| 09:31.41 | Paene | wow |
| 09:31.42 | Paene | lol |
| 09:34.03 | Viras | who is alar? ;) |
| 09:34.38 | Ellipsis | ahahah |
| 09:34.50 | Arrowmaster | some ass that cant code with a damn and abuses the wowace svn to distrubute his shitty ass addons that nobody uses |
| 09:35.11 | Ellipsis | I almost want to try running one of them just to see if it works at all |
| 09:35.18 | Ellipsis | and maybe find out what happens when you attempt to report issues to him |
| 09:35.30 | Viras | lol |
| 09:35.30 | Ellipsis | but I don't think I can bear to run such code on my computer |
| 09:35.36 | Viras | I see - one of those 'devs' ;) |
| 09:36.17 | Viras | Ellipsis: Ah your comp is used to running shitty code - I mean I bet you have windows ;) |
| 09:36.44 | Ellipsis | hey now, I take good care of my system - I can't help if I want to game on it too |
| 09:36.53 | Kalroth | Also Ellipsis has probably made an addon or two himself! |
| 09:37.01 | Ellipsis | herself, ty |
| 09:37.12 | Ellipsis | and indeed, I do write addons for my own use |
| 09:37.13 | Kalroth | There are no boobies on the internet, sorry. |
| 09:37.19 | Ellipsis | well I never said I had boobies |
| 09:37.27 | Kalroth | Fair enough |
| 09:37.33 | Viras | lol |
| 09:37.39 | Grum | himself! (unless pics prove otherwise) |
| 09:37.44 | Grum | mmm i've said that before O.o |
| 09:37.47 | Viras | well I got boobies |
| 09:37.51 | Grum | moobs? |
| 09:37.57 | Grum | m(anb)oobs? |
| 09:37.59 | Ellipsis | but Grum...you have seen pics |
| 09:38.08 | Grum | yeah guess i do |
| 09:38.12 | Recluse | ...o.O |
| 09:38.24 | Grum | still blind on the left side! x.O |
| 09:38.26 | Viras | but they are not my own - they belong to my girlfriend (although I touch them so often, I bet they already start to become part of my body :)) |
| 09:38.46 | Ellipsis | hahah |
| 09:38.51 | Ellipsis | we don't appreciate it, btw! |
| 09:39.12 | Grum | what? having boobs? |
| 09:39.32 | Ellipsis | no, guys who think/act like they own our bodies or any part thereof :P |
| 09:39.53 | Grum | just parts of it ..that should be fine right? |
| 09:39.54 | Viras | ah my gf likes it |
| 09:40.07 | Viras | or why else should she beat me each time I touch them? |
| 09:40.18 | Viras | I think that's her way to show me she loves it ;) |
| 09:40.22 | Ellipsis | depends what kind of beating is going on... |
| 09:40.24 | Grum | true affection |
| 09:41.21 | Viras | the kind you like.... |
| 09:41.22 | Viras | ;) |
| 09:41.52 | Ellipsis | you sure like to make assumptions about me :P |
| 09:42.07 | Grum | you like spanking (on irc)! |
| 09:42.15 | Ellipsis | hush you |
| 09:42.19 | Ellipsis | that's our special time :( |
| 09:42.21 | Viras | at that's just a statistic guess |
| 09:42.23 | Viras | ^^ |
| 09:42.24 | Kalroth | It's the interweb, all males looks like Brad Pitt and all females are really 45 year old truckers. |
| 09:42.37 | Recluse | wth? did i join darknest channel by mistake lol |
| 09:42.41 | Ellipsis | ~irc |
| 09:42.42 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 09:42.55 | Kalroth | Recluse: By mistake? Riiiight. |
| 09:42.57 | Grum | Ellipsis: i didn't tell them about the ballgag now did i! |
| 09:42.58 | Viras | lol |
| 09:43.17 | Viras | ah the good old ballgag |
| 09:43.27 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 09:43.32 | Viras | how many FBI agents did I scare with that ^^ |
| 09:43.39 | Viras | countless.... |
| 09:43.41 | Recluse | Kalroth: =P |
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| 09:44.51 | Viras | so now back on topic: how could I possible start to code an addon that gives my wow boobs? |
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| 09:46.50 | CIA-4 | 03werehamster * r58167 10coolDown/ (coolDownConfig.lua coolDownState.lua): coolDown: Random thoughts of the day. |
| 09:46.57 | Xinhuan | first you get some pics of boobs |
| 09:47.30 | Viras | where can I get those? |
| 09:47.35 | Grum | google images! |
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| 09:48.50 | Viras | ah there we go - one of those "experienced" users ;) |
| 09:49.18 | Grum | that is how i found Ellipsis |
| 09:49.19 | Ellipsis | Grum is *very* experienced |
| 09:49.25 | Grum | <3 |
| 09:49.27 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 09:49.47 | Grum | *purr* |
| 09:49.49 | Viras | I do see a deep connection here - although I'm not sure if I want to know anything more ^^ |
| 09:50.01 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 09:50.02 | Grum | nah that was just 'great minds think alike' :D |
| 09:50.25 | Ellipsis | aww honey why do you have to tease the poor guy |
| 09:50.51 | Grum | tease? i wouldnt do such a thing! |
| 09:51.06 | Viras | now I'm going to cry, just because of you, bad Grum |
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| 09:51.09 | Viras | ^^ |
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| 09:51.28 | Grum | victory! |
| 09:52.28 | Viras | definition: airplane: the package of the last pizza the geek ate |
| 09:52.30 | Viras | ^^ |
| 09:53.44 | Grum | mmm i actually ate pizza yesterday :D |
| 09:54.08 | Viras | hmmm - what a coincidence - me too ^^ |
| 09:54.18 | Grum | then i didnt! :( |
| 09:54.29 | Viras | me neither :P |
| 09:55.18 | Viras | but one last question: Ellipsis - why would girls do not want us to touch their boobs? I mean honestly - that's great - am I right Grum? |
| 09:55.56 | Grum | because we think they like it but in fact they dont really :P |
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| 09:56.28 | Viras | ;) |
| 09:56.28 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:56.43 | Ellipsis | we allow access to the boobs in exchange for other favors |
| 09:57.00 | Recluse | they's bargaining chips |
| 09:57.13 | Viras | I'm always offering my gf the possibility to give me a blowjob and I touch her boobs in return - she doesn't seem to be very happy :P |
| 09:57.30 | Viras | I think I'm doing something wrong...... |
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| 09:59.23 | Ellipsis | ...maybe. |
| 09:59.46 | Grum | boob .. chips ... chips! |
| 09:59.56 | Paene | ... |
| 10:00.04 | Paene | I came into this conversation at the wrong time... |
| 10:00.15 | Paene | ...or maybe it was the right time? |
| 10:00.39 | Arrowmaster | i think ill just head to bed before i end up joining this conversation and start talking about my ex again |
| 10:00.42 | Viras | I would vote for the second option ^^ |
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| 10:03.25 | Paene | hm... |
| 10:03.32 | Paene | is babble-mounts out of date? |
| 10:06.31 | Viras | is there an alternative to GEM based on Ace? |
| 10:09.04 | Lukian | omen/theatlib doesn't calc MD pulls? |
| 10:09.35 | Grum | it does |
| 10:10.03 | Snago | but both the hunter and the tank who gets the MD must have Threat-1.0 |
| 10:10.31 | Grum | would be stupid if either hadn't |
| 10:11.10 | Snago | Some people use KTM *shrug* |
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| 10:11.30 | Lukian | oh right |
| 10:11.40 | Lukian | everyone in this group is using KTM, but me :p |
| 10:11.50 | Grum | Lukian: leave the group |
| 10:12.02 | Viras | hehe |
| 10:12.03 | Grum | find better people to play with |
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| 10:12.10 | Paene | ~api GetItemCount |
| 10:12.11 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemCount |
| 10:12.22 | Viras | ~api GetTime |
| 10:12.23 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTime |
| 10:12.34 | Viras | damn - purl is the all knowing god ^^ |
| 10:12.44 | Snago | ~api Getboobs |
| 10:12.44 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Getboobs |
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| 10:13.00 | Viras | ^^ |
| 10:13.06 | Paene | lol |
| 10:13.12 | Lukian | it's a good group, but they really are failing with threat |
| 10:13.21 | Lukian | not that it matter |
| 10:13.28 | Lukian | quite a few geared players |
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| 10:13.30 | Viras | what else can purl do? Cook coffee? ;) |
| 10:13.35 | Viras | ~help |
| 10:13.46 | [dRaCo] | ~whaleslap Viras |
| 10:13.46 | purl | ACTION beats Viras upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 10:13.46 | Paene | anyone have a good function for searching bags for a item by partial name? |
| 10:14.07 | Grum | Lukian: a good group can not be with KTM |
| 10:14.11 | Viras | *ouch* |
| 10:14.12 | Grum | sorry, just doesn't work like that |
| 10:14.31 | Grum | Paene: its not there, look @ Baggins plugin itemsearch orso |
| 10:14.45 | Viras | Grum's first Law: There is no good group using KTM |
| 10:14.51 | Lukian | i said 'good' not fantastic :p |
| 10:14.52 | Lukian | haha |
| 10:15.04 | Grum | oh, i just class in bad and good |
| 10:15.10 | Grum | and only play with the latter |
| 10:15.18 | Lukian | haha |
| 10:16.41 | Grum | i always love it how much a playstyle tells about a person :) |
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| 10:16.53 | Grum | some are just not capable of smacking a single button as fast as possible |
| 10:17.07 | sag_ich_nicht | what? |
| 10:17.17 | Grum | pausing for 0.5-1s between casts for no reason etc :D |
| 10:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i can whack a button like 10 times in a second |
| 10:17.27 | Grum | and then asking 'why am i lower on dps?' |
| 10:17.53 | sag_ich_nicht | probably faster if i try |
| 10:18.10 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:18.45 | Grum | in which updated will they adres the stopcasting stuff? |
| 10:18.49 | Grum | was that 2.3.2 already? |
| 10:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | done already in 2.3.2 |
| 10:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | the "fake" GCD is gone |
| 10:19.48 | sag_ich_nicht | so you can theoretically just spam the button now |
| 10:19.53 | Grum | mm i still didn't notice much of a difference |
| 10:19.55 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah for paladin healers having even less to do! |
| 10:20.18 | NightHawkTheSane | woooooooo |
| 10:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | vashj at 10% |
| 10:20.27 | Grum | and wipe? :( |
| 10:20.28 | [dRaCo] | that's 10% too much |
| 10:20.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, wipe |
| 10:20.35 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats our best attempt so far |
| 10:20.40 | Grum | how many standing @ phase2->3 ? |
| 10:20.40 | HIghoS | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.49 | Grum | you need at least 23 |
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| 10:20.57 | Grum | unless you have insane dps :) |
| 10:21.05 | NightHawkTheSane | there were something like ~2 dead at p3, but we brezed them |
| 10:21.18 | Grum | first time in phase3? |
| 10:21.26 | NightHawkTheSane | we first got her to p3 last week |
| 10:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | this is our second week of attempts on her |
| 10:22.26 | Grum | nice |
| 10:22.47 | Grum | well you'll get her down soon and then its sushi time! |
| 10:22.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yep yep. |
| 10:23.00 | Grum | (and nearly a free run into the first 6 bosses of BT/MH) |
| 10:23.12 | Grum | kael is much simpler than vashj in execution :) |
| 10:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | god i hope so, this has been a pain :) |
| 10:23.41 | NightHawkTheSane | we still need to work on vashj |
| 10:23.43 | NightHawkTheSane | er |
| 10:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | kael |
| 10:23.45 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 10:23.58 | Keias | Not so sane now are ya?! |
| 10:24.10 | Grum | also, kaelthas will make your guild better :) |
| 10:24.31 | Grum | or your raiding group at least ^^ |
| 10:24.34 | Kalroth | You'd think so, but nooo |
| 10:24.46 | NightHawkTheSane | no one is sane at 2:30 am. |
| 10:24.53 | Kalroth | [11:22] <NightHawkTheSane> no one is sane at 2:30 am. |
| 10:24.55 | Kalroth | :) |
| 10:25.00 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:25.02 | Keias | 5:24am here |
| 10:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | it's 2:30 for me, screw off ;) |
| 10:25.16 | Lukian | macro question! |
| 10:25.20 | Lukian | reset=combat |
| 10:25.22 | Keias | I just like to tease |
| 10:25.29 | Lukian | anyway to make it EXITING combat only? |
| 10:26.01 | Viras | 11:25 am here ^^ |
| 10:26.06 | Viras | asking why you are tired ;) |
| 10:26.50 | Grum | indeed, nearly lunch time :) |
| 10:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | aaaanyway.. im going to sleep now. |
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| 10:29.37 | Orionshock | 03:28:35 Phantom Valet hits you for 3858. Phantom Valet hits you for 7970. You Die QQ |
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| 10:32.23 | Kalroth | l2p! |
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| 10:33.29 | Viras | well guys (and girls) |
| 10:33.32 | Viras | it was a hell of a ride |
| 10:33.38 | Viras | but I have to go now - cu ltr ^^ |
| 10:34.45 | Gngsk | cocaine is a ehll of a drug |
| 10:34.49 | Paene | lol |
| 10:34.52 | Gngsk | s/ehll/hell/ |
| 10:35.08 | Paene | hm...Babbel-Mount has a weird format...some of the mounts have their prefixes, and some don't |
| 10:36.29 | smoke_ | anyone familiar with witchhunt code? |
| 10:43.12 | Gngsk | smoke_, what're you looking to do with it? |
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| 10:51.39 | Lukian | Grum, I love this mage |
| 10:51.46 | Lukian | they resheep even in consecration |
| 10:52.30 | Grum | lol |
| 10:52.36 | Grum | that makes em do such good dps |
| 10:52.48 | Grum | unless you are in a heroic, you're likely to be top dps right? |
| 10:53.25 | Lukian | Tjay 783773 (29.8%) |
| 10:53.25 | Lukian | Bjarne 732954 (27.9%) |
| 10:53.25 | Lukian | Slidarius 569689 (21.7%) |
| 10:53.25 | Lukian | Chirso 541355 (20.6%) |
| 10:53.33 | Lukian | I'm slidarius - and I'm undergeared :p |
| 10:53.46 | Lukian | chirso is mage, bjarne hunter, tjay warlock |
| 10:54.13 | syeren | Xinhuan, are you around / available :)? |
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| 10:54.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:54.30 | Lukian | I have 144 spelldmg and had an extra 115 from shatt buff |
| 10:54.31 | Xinhuan | clearing akama trash is boring |
| 10:55.17 | Lukian | only 813 AP XD |
| 10:55.29 | Grum | we actually had an unbugged akama yesterday :D |
| 10:55.30 | syeren | I have a suggestion / idea for your awesome Cart Plugin :p |
| 10:55.36 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 10:55.50 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, it's fun if you aoe |
| 10:55.59 | syeren | Would it be possible to make a Fubar (extension?) which would allow you to pick which route to show on a drop down from it? |
| 10:56.03 | Grum | DAMMIT!@ |
| 10:56.16 | syeren | I have them all hidden by default :P |
| 10:56.17 | Grum | that exists, Fubar_RoutesFu |
| 10:56.18 | Xinhuan | http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_Routes |
| 10:56.22 | Grum | oh |
| 10:56.24 | Xinhuan | http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_RoutesFu |
| 10:56.24 | Grum | diff name ;D |
| 10:56.30 | syeren | Much love Xinhuan :D |
| 10:56.53 | Lukian | mage has 437 spelldmg (fire and arcane)... rofl. |
| 10:57.02 | syeren | Pfft, I don't look at seperate Fubar plug ins, they all tend to come included these days :p |
| 10:57.19 | Grum | Lukian: what gearlvl? instance blue/heroic/t4/t5/t6? |
| 10:57.37 | Lukian | blue |
| 10:57.39 | syeren | That's terrible unless it's not 70 :p |
| 10:57.40 | Lukian | this is regular bot |
| 11:00.03 | Lukian | woot! Got my shoulders :D |
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| 11:00.57 | Lukian | 22:02:16 [Party] <70:Shardazar>: If there is a god 22:02:16 [Party] <70:Shardazar>: If there is a god |
| 11:00.59 | Lukian | ^ druid |
| 11:00.59 | Grum | grats, stupid tree-monster :D |
| 11:01.08 | Grum | Laj was the name right? :) |
| 11:02.09 | Lukian | aye |
| 11:02.16 | Ellipsis | those are some sweet shoulders |
| 11:02.21 | Lukian | we just pulled both frayer sides at once :D |
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| 11:08.47 | Lukian | I think I ninjaed all the boss lott |
| 11:08.54 | Lukian | except for one which the mage wanted |
| 11:08.55 | Lukian | haha |
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| 11:10.30 | Paene | gnite all |
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| 11:13.59 | Lukian | lol oops |
| 11:14.07 | Lukian | Enchanted Thorium Torque has a ring icon |
| 11:14.21 | Lukian | It's actually a neck item XD |
| 11:19.33 | smoke_ | anyone know what when a shaman drops a totem which event it triggers for combat log parsering? |
| 11:20.01 | [dRaCo] | dunno if there' s an event for the totem itself |
| 11:20.30 | smoke_ | is it under like normal |
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| 11:25.08 | CIA-4 | 03gagorian * r58168 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 11:25.08 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 11:25.08 | CIA-4 | - Corrected issue with manual spell haste. |
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| 11:36.53 | CIA-4 | 03arkayenro * r58169 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ArkInventory.toc VersionHistory.txt): |
| 11:36.53 | CIA-4 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:36.53 | CIA-4 | - 2.26b |
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| 11:55.42 | Xinhuan | Cheads around? |
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| 11:58.43 | wereHamster | ~seen Cheads |
| 11:58.45 | purl | cheads is currently on #wowace (49m 41s), last said: 'if KivinSpamGuard delays the chat.. it's not something I'd like.. '. |
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| 12:01.35 | Kalroth | Cheads: There's boobies if you wake up! |
| 12:02.13 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:04.21 | sag_ich_nicht | god fucking damn it |
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| 12:04.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ex-gf lost her job to WoW -.- |
| 12:04.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:05.05 | Kalroth | Well that's one way to find out that you've got an addiction |
| 12:05.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Kalroth for being an insensitive clod |
| 12:05.05 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Kalroth for being an insensitive clod |
| 12:05.17 | [T]Althalus | Hello there. Could anyone link me to the Java (I think?) version of the Ace updater? The normal one doesnt work for me :/ |
| 12:05.29 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: Uh, why should I be sensitive about someone that skips work to play? |
| 12:05.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth: funny thing is, she's not addicted to WoW |
| 12:05.52 | sag_ich_nicht | she's addicted to doing whatever the fuck provides her with fun >< |
| 12:05.53 | Kalroth | So how did WoW make her lose her job then? |
| 12:05.55 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 12:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | like |
| 12:06.11 | TNSe | sag_ich_nicht, I'm same way >_< |
| 12:06.11 | sag_ich_nicht | she skipped work time for a different job to watch DVDs |
| 12:06.36 | Kalroth | So it's not really WoWs fault, she's just got priority issues |
| 12:06.40 | TNSe | if I'm not entertained I fail at being :P |
| 12:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 12:06.41 | cladhaire | indeed. |
| 12:06.44 | sag_ich_nicht | SERIOUS priority issues. |
| 12:07.02 | TNSe | although I have aspergers, so I know I have priority issues |
| 12:07.07 | sag_ich_nicht | her apartment complex is getting deconstructed next week. |
| 12:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 12:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | *next month |
| 12:07.23 | Kalroth | And she still haven't found a new place? :) |
| 12:07.29 | sag_ich_nicht | of course not. |
| 12:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | gg |
| 12:07.52 | Kalroth | Why procrastinate now when you can do it later! |
| 12:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | EXACTLY. |
| 12:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire i blame you! |
| 12:08.09 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:08.13 | TNSe | so why did she dump you again? :P |
| 12:08.23 | sag_ich_nicht | TNSe if only i knew |
| 12:09.01 | sag_ich_nicht | she just stopped coming to my place, told me she has no time, etc. |
| 12:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | and then she was just gone |
| 12:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 12:09.09 | Kalroth | Well if she's a slacker, then it was probably because she didn't want to work the relationship |
| 12:09.13 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT kept contact with me over WoW/ICQ |
| 12:09.13 | Snago | [T]Althalus: JWowUpdater here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917.0 |
| 12:09.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth: probably. |
| 12:09.36 | Kalroth | So she just slided slowly from bedmate to icqmate? :) |
| 12:09.43 | sag_ich_nicht | >-< |
| 12:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | pretty much yeah |
| 12:10.42 | winkiller | lol |
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| 12:10.54 | Kalroth | That's almost ideal, now you just need to ask her if it's ok to visit her 1-2 times a week to get rid of the pressure. |
| 12:11.03 | Kalroth | Then you'd have a perfect relationship! |
| 12:11.40 | [T]Althalus | Thanks Snago, I used it a while back but I couln't remeber the exact name/where I found it :) |
| 12:11.55 | Kalroth | No women yapping at you, telling you not to leave your underwear on the kitchen table, telling you to put the milk back in the fridge after it's been outside all day, etc. etc. |
| 12:12.00 | winkiller | sex doesn't seem to be a priority, Kalroth |
| 12:12.16 | Kalroth | winkiller: It should be in any healthy relationship! |
| 12:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth: except she's living in a different country now. |
| 12:12.23 | Kalroth | Boobies makes the world go round. |
| 12:12.41 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: Ouch. Well that puts quite the dent into that idea. |
| 12:13.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:12] <winkiller> sex doesn't seem to be a priority, Kalroth <--not like she ever put out *sigh* but it wasn't really a priority at that time anyway :P |
| 12:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:11] <Kalroth> No women yapping at you, telling you not to leave your underwear on the kitchen table, telling you to put the milk back in the fridge after it's been outside all day, etc. etc. <--she did do all that stuff herself, so no yelling there ;P |
| 12:13.51 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 12:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 12:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | why would you leave your underwear on the kitchen table? |
| 12:14.30 | sag_ich_nicht | what are you, retarded? |
| 12:14.34 | Keias | for breakfast |
| 12:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 12:14.43 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 12:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | look you're doing it wrong. |
| 12:15.03 | Kalroth | Well I like fresh and warm underwear in the morning |
| 12:15.16 | sag_ich_nicht | you do NOT tear off the pieces of clothing one by one when changing clothes for sleeping |
| 12:15.18 | Kalroth | So a couple of minutes in the oven and I'm like a new man. |
| 12:15.26 | SunTsu | .o0( I hope sag_ich_nicht never has to reply to anything longer than two or three sentences ) |
| 12:15.37 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu :P |
| 12:16.27 | sag_ich_nicht | you just pull off all of the shirts in one piece, same goes for underpants + pants. that way, you just pull one 2/3 piece in-one combo over yourself in the morning and are dressed instantly, in ~15 seconds. |
| 12:16.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *all-in-one |
| 12:16.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 12:17.02 | Kalroth | Hrm |
| 12:17.13 | sag_ich_nicht | this assumes of course that you shower daily |
| 12:17.17 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise it would be smelled |
| 12:17.20 | Kalroth | Yeah, I was about to ask |
| 12:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | you shower daily, right? |
| 12:17.33 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 12:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | *otherwise it would be smelly |
| 12:17.49 | Kalroth | wtf, what kind of geek do you think I am? |
| 12:17.51 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you, typo fairy |
| 12:18.03 | Kalroth | Of course I don't shower on a daily basis! |
| 12:18.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Kalroth n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk * kalroth |
| 12:18.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Channels: #wowace #wowi-lounge +#wowwiki #wowhead |
| 12:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you retard D: |
| 12:18.20 | Kalroth | What now?! |
| 12:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | go shower yourself, idiot,. |
| 12:18.31 | sag_ich_nicht | -, |
| 12:18.51 | Kalroth | But I prefer the tub :( |
| 12:20.28 | sag_ich_nicht | same shit |
| 12:20.39 | Kalroth | You said shower! |
| 12:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Kalroth |
| 12:23.14 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Kalroth feel it |
| 12:23.39 | Kalroth | All this larting is turning me on |
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| 12:34.44 | CIA-4 | 03aviana * r58170 10Numen/ (Bindings.xml Numen.lua NumenData.lua locales/enUS.lua): |
| 12:34.44 | CIA-4 | Numen: |
| 12:34.44 | CIA-4 | - Added a button for shields (off by default) |
| 12:34.44 | CIA-4 | [Please delete your old Numen.lua from your SavedVariables folder if you have any problems] |
| 12:35.13 | CIA-4 | 03aviana * r58171 10cyCircled/plugins/Numen.lua: |
| 12:35.13 | CIA-4 | cyCircled: |
| 12:35.13 | CIA-4 | - Updated Numen plugin |
| 12:36.24 | Lukian | whoa |
| 12:36.28 | Lukian | a Numen update |
| 12:36.30 | Lukian | amazing |
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| 12:49.33 | Cheads | Xinhuan there? |
| 12:49.36 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 12:49.58 | Cheads | about the postal thing |
| 12:50.05 | Cheads | you asked me to contact you =) |
| 12:50.11 | Xinhuan | yes check Pms |
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| 13:06.48 | Orionshock | HELL YES |
| 13:07.05 | Orionshock | 15min till server reboot and we down shade wtih 4 mins |
| 13:07.10 | Orionshock | and 8 ppl dead |
| 13:08.31 | tz8 | hmmm |
| 13:08.55 | tz8 | i get two itemprice tooltips... a german and an english one... |
| 13:09.19 | tz8 | does Cowtip use ItemPrice-1.1 by itself now? |
| 13:13.35 | Keias | Close call Orionshock :P |
| 13:14.26 | Lukian | Orionshock, lol nice one |
| 13:15.29 | exor674 | I wonder what they forgot to do Tuesday? |
| 13:16.19 | Lukian | probably nothing |
| 13:16.40 | Lukian | It's most likely just to stop the servers crashing after the memory leaks from honour roll :p |
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| 13:36.26 | Orionshock | Keias / Lukian - our MT and our Main Healer where the ones standing.... he dps'ed him down from 6% |
| 13:36.28 | Orionshock | .... |
| 13:37.19 | Lukian | what class MT? :D |
| 13:37.43 | Orionshock | prot warrior |
| 13:37.52 | Lukian | 0000000000lol |
| 13:37.54 | Lukian | slow dps |
| 13:38.25 | Lukian | sorry 0's were the cat |
| 13:38.33 | Lukian | they like typing in this channel |
| 13:38.34 | Lukian | lol |
| 13:38.38 | Orionshock | but he died, we rez'ed, looted and zone'ed in 3mins |
| 13:39.00 | Orionshock | *3mins to spare |
| 13:39.13 | SunTsu | Lukian: Maybe you'd want to put some sort of fence around your keyboard ;) |
| 13:39.20 | Lukian | SunTsu, haha |
| 13:39.25 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 13:39.34 | Lukian | that would make it worse |
| 13:39.41 | Lukian | they'd consider it a 'box' and sit in it |
| 13:39.47 | Lukian | they <3 boxes |
| 13:39.56 | Grum | Orionshock: aran? |
| 13:40.03 | Grum | or akama? :) |
| 13:40.20 | vithos | you can't dps akama slowly |
| 13:40.29 | Grum | indeed :) |
| 13:40.38 | Grum | akama is fun though, 2m fight O.o |
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| 13:40.47 | Grum | or sub 1m if he buffs |
| 13:40.50 | Grum | *buggs |
| 13:40.57 | Orionshock | Grum: shade in KZ |
| 13:40.58 | vithos | hasn't been bugged for a few weeks for us |
| 13:41.00 | elusif | man after two months with no internet and no wow waiting on the patch to install is a killer :( |
| 13:41.10 | Grum | vithos: really? |
| 13:41.16 | Orionshock | nn all |
| 13:41.21 | vithos | yup, 2 weeks at least, maybe 3 |
| 13:41.37 | Grum | been ther 4 times now and 2x insta bug, 1x not but second try it was (then i siwtched guilds) and yesterday he wasnt bugged and 2m3s kill O.o |
| 13:42.11 | Grum | after a wipe you can just tell if he's bugged, no beams == bugged |
| 13:42.25 | vithos | how do you wipe! :P |
| 13:42.38 | vithos | yeah, we always know because there's beams or no beams to begin with |
| 13:43.11 | Grum | i know, hence the reason i switched guilds ^^ |
| 13:43.14 | vithos | he wasn't bugged for a while when we first got to him, then he was bugged for many weeks, and now he hasn't been bugged since |
| 13:43.30 | Grum | actually were other issues, but it contributed a bit ^^ |
| 13:44.29 | vithos | i'm just glad the holiday slump is over for our guild |
| 13:45.02 | xyu | akama is BT's "Free loot" ala chess in kara! |
| 13:45.05 | vithos | we're finally one-shotting content like archimonde/illidan/council/mother/ros |
| 13:45.41 | xyu | yesterday i noticed something different with akama, the casters / defenders / etc that come out of the side doors were coming out very slowly. |
| 13:45.42 | vithos | which is a nice change from "not enough healers showed up" |
| 13:46.20 | xyu | we still can't get people to lrn2play mage classes in teron gorefiend |
| 13:46.38 | vithos | oh yes, we still wipe to gorefiend too. |
| 13:46.39 | Grum | vithos: i've killed Teron and RoS for the first time yesterday and i have to say, OMG what a complete freakshow is RoS |
| 13:46.40 | xyu | we have this chic healer who always seems to get it every single round and she just can't seem to kill her constructs :( |
| 13:46.59 | xyu | They don't move 10 feet when i get it, and i can never seem to get chosen :( |
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| 13:47.00 | Grum | xyu: have her play the flashgame till she gets it? |
| 13:47.01 | vithos | i <3 RoS. my favorite fight in the game |
| 13:47.01 | xyu | *cry* |
| 13:47.07 | xyu | Grum: we have lol |
| 13:47.21 | Grum | RoS the first time as holy priest .. its beyond wonky to see :D |
| 13:47.30 | xyu | Ugh, there's no excuse to be stuck on an easy boss like gorefiend :( |
| 13:47.38 | Grum | phase1 is just ... unique, phase2 .. the end is horrible, phase3 .. OMG STOP THE DAMAGE! |
| 13:47.52 | xyu | When do we get to do RoS? |
| 13:48.01 | Grum | you can do it after supremus if you want |
| 13:48.05 | xyu | ah |
| 13:48.07 | vithos | lol, i wish i could get picked for gorefiend.. i've been wanting to try out a macro i made for weeks |
| 13:48.14 | Grum | macros? lol |
| 13:48.18 | xyu | what'd you make? a mouseoveR? |
| 13:48.35 | xyu | a lot of people using mouseover macros so you dont have to actually target the things, but i haven't tried it |
| 13:48.39 | Grum | just press 3 buttons, 5,4,3,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3,5,4,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3,tab,3 .... |
| 13:48.42 | xyu | i do fine |
| 13:48.43 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.57 | xyu | hehe nice |
| 13:49.04 | vithos | i've done it before with ctrl+5,4,3 |
| 13:49.08 | vithos | but holding ctrl is annoying |
| 13:49.08 | xyu | just as long as you've kept them grouped nicely. |
| 13:49.19 | Grum | just click the buttons with your mouse ^^ |
| 13:49.21 | xyu | i just rebind my frost nova and ice lance before the fight. |
| 13:49.40 | xyu | i have the benefit of being a mage :P |
| 13:49.46 | Grum | yup hehe |
| 13:49.58 | vithos | and we have some people who can't handle it at all, so i figure if the macro works, i'll just make them all use it, and then we won't have problems anymore |
| 13:50.02 | xyu | last time we did him. he chose only dps to sacrifice |
| 13:50.04 | Ozguli` | I hold ctrl when healing |
| 13:50.04 | xyu | no healers |
| 13:50.06 | xyu | just dps. |
| 13:50.13 | xyu | so by the time the boss was down to 10& |
| 13:50.15 | xyu | 10 percent |
| 13:50.18 | Grum | guild i'm in now actually killed illidan tuesday, so i'm just in time for the second kill ^^ |
| 13:50.19 | xyu | it was just healers healing the tank |
| 13:51.06 | xyu | how often do they raid? |
| 13:51.09 | Grum | how many healers do you take past akama? |
| 13:51.10 | Ozguli` | xyu something wrong with that? |
| 13:51.14 | xyu | we raid 3 times a week , but i think we could do 4 :( |
| 13:51.19 | Grum | xyu: 5 nights a week orso |
| 13:51.33 | Ozguli` | in seth halls we only had tank and me as rogue left |
| 13:51.33 | xyu | Ozguli`: Yeah, we didn't have the dps to down him ; ; |
| 13:51.44 | Grum | but 3.75 per person orso, you need 75% attendance |
| 13:51.46 | Ozguli` | but that's a whole different story anyway |
| 13:51.53 | xyu | a rogue can dps though, and 10% is a lot of HP for a boss in BT ^^ |
| 13:52.02 | Grum | ~460k |
| 13:52.20 | Ozguli` | omg |
| 13:52.39 | Ozguli` | 460k is like the 7 second dmg output of a 40-man pom pyro group |
| 13:52.40 | Grum | standstill bosses have ~4.6m hp |
| 13:52.42 | xyu | our best attempt was a dry run so that people could get used to getting marked. when we go wet we do worse. |
| 13:52.53 | CIA-4 | 03cwdg * r58172 10WoWEquip/localization.zhCN.lua: WoWEquip: - update zhCN local |
| 13:53.18 | Grum | Naj'entus: Health: 3,800,000 |
| 13:53.48 | sag_ich_nicht | in before cwdg broke something again |
| 13:54.07 | vithos | in after in before |
| 13:54.09 | Grum | Akama: Health: 1,000,000 + 6x100,000 |
| 13:54.19 | Grum | Akama should have more health :) |
| 13:54.40 | Grum | Supremus: Health: 4,500,000 .. and you have to run around half of the time O.o |
| 13:54.56 | vithos | akama is like the chess event in kara |
| 13:55.04 | Grum | Teron: Health: 5,000,000 (complete standstill fight but picks of people to die) |
| 13:55.22 | Grum | RoS is 3x2.3m, all of em a fight against time :) |
| 13:57.02 | Grum | lol Illidan is a shitload of health |
| 13:57.50 | Grum | 5,900,000 + 2x1.1m on adds |
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| 13:58.59 | sag_ich_nicht | our maintank tanked down murmur on heroic from 50% to kill when the rest of the party died because the healer had a d/c :> |
| 13:59.08 | sag_ich_nicht | (nerf druids) |
| 14:00.30 | Grum | you know murmur never even has 50% hp right? |
| 14:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i am reffering |
| 14:00.44 | sag_ich_nicht | to 50% of the hp he starts with |
| 14:00.53 | FinalX | uhm, 30.. |
| 14:00.55 | sag_ich_nicht | /bonk Grum |
| 14:00.59 | exor674 | 20, isn't it/ |
| 14:01.06 | exor674 | doens't murmur start at 40? |
| 14:01.11 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: As I am a bear tank myself, it is quite common to be the last one standing on wipes |
| 14:01.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 14:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 14:01.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm that person normally |
| 14:01.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol paladins |
| 14:02.02 | sag_ich_nicht | paladins either die first or last in a boss encounter normally |
| 14:02.02 | FinalX | think exor is right, 40 sounds more plausible :P |
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| 14:02.23 | SunTsu | Like mags on our first try. On TS: "Heal me, heal me" "You are aware that nobody is left alive, right?" "D'Oh" |
| 14:02.34 | FinalX | rofl |
| 14:02.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 14:02.36 | sag_ich_nicht | TS |
| 14:02.38 | FinalX | hey Adys :P |
| 14:02.39 | exor674 | haha |
| 14:02.39 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2ventrilo |
| 14:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm very slowly but steadily converting my whole realm to ventrilo |
| 14:02.58 | FinalX | Ventrilo has it's own nasty bugs and shitty interface tbh :P |
| 14:03.07 | Bruners | what bugs? |
| 14:03.13 | Adys | hey fx |
| 14:03.17 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, out server admin is into TS2, and because it is all for free, I won't debate over that |
| 14:03.43 | FinalX | Think I'm gonna set up both on my server for my friends to chat on. |
| 14:04.18 | tz8 | if only you could buy a ventrilo license for like 50 slots... but the minimum is 1000 |
| 14:04.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care about the damn interface, the voice quality is a zillion times better, ASSUMING the person who provides the vent servers knows WTF they are doing and switches the codec to GSM 44.1 khz instead of speex which is limited to 32 khz(at least in ventrilo, i won't debat that speex WOULD be the better codec, if ventrilo would fully support it, but since it doesn't, GSM is far superior) |
| 14:04.27 | FinalX | But TS takes my preference as Ventrilo's crashes on different kinds of systems doesn't really make me trust it, plus it takes up more system resources and all. |
| 14:04.47 | FinalX | Voice quality better? lol. learn2setupcodecs |
| 14:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | FinalX |
| 14:05.14 | sag_ich_nicht | get out. TS2 sound worse than ventrilo. always. no matter what the codec setup in TS2, provided that ventrilo is setup properly. |
| 14:05.15 | tz8 | T3 will make everyone happy![tm] |
| 14:05.24 | FinalX | Whatever, sag_ich_nicht. |
| 14:05.32 | FinalX | Keep telling yourself that =P |
| 14:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | get on my ventrilo server right fucking now |
| 14:05.49 | tz8 | sigh - /me hates religious debates |
| 14:05.50 | Bruners | on my codect testing i have found speex to be the better codec |
| 14:05.51 | FinalX | Eh, no. I don't like Ventrilo in any way. |
| 14:06.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Bruners: i have already etablished that, in case you didn't pay attention, the problem is that ventrilo limits speex to 32 khz instead of 44.1 khz. Mumble uses speex to its full extend, including the preprocessor, and Mumble sounds better than either ventrilo OR TS2, but Mumble is an experimental unstable son of a bitch. |
| 14:06.57 | FinalX | And I don't care what you believe or don't believe, I'm just stating facts. It does crash a lot more often on a diversity of systems than TS2 does, there's no debating that as it's a fact that I've encountered too many times. It's my personal grudge because of that and I don't give a damn about anything else :p |
| 14:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | FinalX which version are you refering to? |
| 14:07.17 | FinalX | All of them. |
| 14:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | do you have study to prorve that? |
| 14:07.26 | FinalX | Even the most recent one is still unstable. |
| 14:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *prove |
| 14:07.32 | FinalX | Learn to read. |
| 14:07.32 | Bruners | sag_ich_nicht: mumble being the one found on sourceforge? |
| 14:07.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Bruners: correct |
| 14:07.56 | exor674 | I've never had my Vent client crash |
| 14:07.58 | xyu | I have had no crashes with Ventrilo |
| 14:08.00 | Bruners | is that project going any way? havent testet it in a long time |
| 14:08.01 | xyu | ever |
| 14:08.06 | FinalX | If you're not even reading, sag_ich_nicht, there's no point to even talk to you, congratulations, you're one of the few that actually makes it to my irssi ignore list :p |
| 14:08.07 | sag_ich_nicht | neither have i, xyu |
| 14:08.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and neither has anyone i ever talked to. |
| 14:08.29 | xyu | grats sir! |
| 14:08.41 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, our server admin is our GM as well. After our latest GM quit there were enough changes: New officers, new forum, new raid management frontend. So, there's been enough changes, and because TS2 already runs, I wouldn't want to have another change. I would end up with some people on vent and some on TS2 |
| 14:08.49 | sag_ich_nicht | FinalX: i'm glad i'm on it, because you're an unscientific fool and i suggest that you get the fucking hell out of this channel before you get yourself banned. |
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| 14:09.24 | sag_ich_nicht | thank you xyu |
| 14:09.34 | xyu | SunTsu: I don't even know any single guild on my server that uses TS. Tho i keep my eye open! |
| 14:09.34 | Bruners | why are you all going hostile because of discussion? |
| 14:09.35 | KivinSan | sag_ich_nicht: You'd do well to treat people better. I don't know how you can possibly be so arrogant and angry all the time. |
| 14:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:07] <Bruners> is that project going any way? havent testet it in a long time <--it is |
| 14:09.42 | xyu | and I do a TON of pugs. |
| 14:09.48 | KivinSan | Every single time I come in here and see you talking, you're acting like a total asshat |
| 14:09.49 | xyu | I do have TS installed though, just in case ^^ |
| 14:09.54 | elusif | is wow own voice chat not working yet? |
| 14:10.01 | exor674 | elusif: it sucks :D |
| 14:10.09 | exor674 | I think thats something we all c an agree on |
| 14:10.12 | elusif | :D |
| 14:10.15 | xyu | They just rushed it out and didn't care about it at all. |
| 14:10.18 | elusif | i've never used ts or voip |
| 14:10.36 | SunTsu | elusif: Well, working - that depends on your definition of that word ;) |
| 14:11.01 | SunTsu | elusif: Nobody ever hears me on blizz' voice chat |
| 14:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | KivinSan: i am honest, that's all. if i don't like what you do, i tell it to you straight in your face. i care little for pretending to be a virginal saint for the sake of being "nice", which serves no purpose and only needs to drama once people discover that they have been lied to. so i don't lie. |
| 14:11.10 | elusif | SunTsu: sux |
| 14:11.26 | elusif | they just released it before i was without broadband for a few months |
| 14:11.26 | sag_ich_nicht | s/only needs/only leads/ |
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| 14:11.52 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard's voice chat sucks, period. |
| 14:12.20 | xyu | It doesn't bother me. I really don't want to hear retards in 5 mans anyway |
| 14:12.24 | elusif | lol |
| 14:12.35 | elusif | do they wear football helmets and pyjamas? :) |
| 14:13.17 | SunTsu | I'd really go for a SIP-chat, liek some big conference call. Just I don't know anything that does it, which maybe caused by SIP not supporting it in first place |
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| 14:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | KivinSan: if you have a problem with someone being honest, I would have to question your intelligence, but since your are in the this channel and haven't been spouting shit from your mouth like FinalX here, I kind of doubt that i should do that. |
| 14:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 14:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hello kd3 |
| 14:14.29 | KivinSan | sag_ich_nicht: I no problem with anything per se. I only said you should consider treating people better. Because you consistently treat strangers and friends alike like crap. |
| 14:14.49 | xyu | Welcome to the Internets |
| 14:15.18 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, he has a point in that you won't have to be insulting to be honest ;) |
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| 14:16.11 | KivinSan | I'm sure sounding like the learned chap I'm sure you are, without trying to make everyone feel like crap, is easier than you think, I believe, If you just give it a shot. |
| 14:16.13 | xyu | Not if we can prove the insult! Formulate a hypothesis |
| 14:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~cookie xyu |
| 14:16.46 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 14:16.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ~treat xyu |
| 14:17.00 | xyu | he found three dots |
| 14:18.21 | xyu | So, how 'bout them addons. Grid's nice... |
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| 14:19.07 | xyu | I'm thinking about taking an introductory class in programming. Because i'm just deadweight in this channel and i don't have any other classes to take this semester |
| 14:19.29 | KivinSan | grab a book, tbh |
| 14:19.41 | xyu | I wouldn't know where to start |
| 14:20.10 | Recluse | mebbe i just don't get it, but Grid needs to come with a 1,200pg instruction manual, imo |
| 14:20.12 | xyu | i need the credits to be fulltime anyway. qq |
| 14:20.27 | xyu | Recluse: just mess with options until you break something |
| 14:20.29 | xyu | that's how i do it |
| 14:20.32 | Recluse | lol |
| 14:20.37 | xyu | then come here and complain that their addon sucks |
| 14:20.52 | xyu | not really though |
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| 14:21.03 | xyu | Grid doesn't have the ready check checker though |
| 14:21.04 | Recluse | well, i'm sure it's a nice addon.... i just don't know how to use it or something XD |
| 14:21.07 | xyu | minus points! |
| 14:21.24 | xyu | I live by Grid |
| 14:21.28 | xyu | i spend my days staring at it |
| 14:21.34 | Wogroipl_ | same xyu :D |
| 14:21.35 | xyu | bars go up, bars go down |
| 14:21.45 | xyu | little flashy icons pop up on it once in a while |
| 14:21.48 | xyu | obscurring my view |
| 14:21.50 | xyu | so i click them away |
| 14:21.51 | Wogroipl_ | mobs make bars go down, I make them go up |
| 14:21.55 | KivinSan | xyu: If you want a place to start, grab the free .net studio from msdn and grab a book on writing visual basic |
| 14:22.06 | sag_ich_nicht | KivinSan: I'm not trying to make anyone feel like crap. i am positivly successful with it. Trying would be "y0 f00kin 455h0l3s y iz m4h 4dd0n n0t wrkin", it would just make people chuckle mostly. it's a psychological trick, people get angry at you when you insult them, especially if you only use insults to their intelligence or swear words like "fucking". Anger does 2 things to people: 1. it makes them more like to fucking get over themself and do so |
| 14:22.09 | KivinSan | xyu: VB is a hunk of poo, but it's a good, comfy place to start |
| 14:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i probably got cut off, care to tell me how? |
| 14:22.20 | Recluse | wo, that be a wall of text |
| 14:22.32 | sag_ich_nicht | s/how/where/ |
| 14:22.36 | xyu | KivinSan: Thanks. I have .net but i don't think that's what you're talking about. Ill check it out. |
| 14:22.52 | KivinSan | standby |
| 14:22.53 | xyu | Is programming similar to learning a foreign language? does it need that kind of time/effort? |
| 14:23.10 | Wogroipl_ | but Grid should have status options for readycheck imo |
| 14:23.12 | KivinSan | http://www.microsoft.com/express/ |
| 14:23.16 | KivinSan | @ xyu |
| 14:23.23 | Recluse | xyu: i don't think so, personally. just some analytical thinking perhaps |
| 14:23.27 | |Pixel| | programming is more a state of mind |
| 14:23.33 | sag_ich_nicht | xyu programming is more like learning a foreign language while learning math, in the same proccess(not neccesairly at the same time tho). |
| 14:23.38 | xyu | I just want enough knowledge to be able to understand things i see. Maybe edit and make changes to other peoples hard work. |
| 14:23.39 | Stan_ | KivinSan: starting with C# is imo the better idea |
| 14:23.49 | KivinSan | Stan_: maybe |
| 14:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | now someone tell me where my wall of text got cut off :P |
| 14:24.00 | Stan_ | sag_ich_nicht: "and do so" |
| 14:24.26 | xyu | people told me C++ is hard |
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| 14:24.39 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.39 | Recluse | in-depth |
| 14:24.41 | KivinSan | It's not difficult, but there is a lot of background knowledge which is semi-required to be useful with it |
| 14:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | also. |
| 14:24.52 | Adys | its not c / c++ thats hard, its other languages that are made easy :P |
| 14:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up everyone. |
| 14:25.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you want to start learning to program? |
| 14:25.04 | xyu | Adys: i think you have it ^_^ |
| 14:25.13 | Recluse | start with qb XD |
| 14:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | start with R&K The C Programming Language |
| 14:25.24 | xyu | Yes i do. I dont' want to be the master, i just want some basic knowledge and be able to do some simple things |
| 14:25.40 | Adys | lua is a good start imo :) |
| 14:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | it's easy to understand and leads you directly to the core principles of coding without any additional bullshit. |
| 14:25.48 | KivinSan | C is kind of a bad language to start with, IMO. Stacks, Pointers, linked-lists can be a bit overwhelming |
| 14:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | KivinSan: no, they aren't. |
| 14:25.58 | Recluse | lua's not hard at all, really |
| 14:26.00 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: I disagree. K&R is a great reference, but nothing to be used to lern how to program |
| 14:26.04 | KivinSan | sag_ich_nicht: NO U |
| 14:26.28 | exor674 | but I LIKE linked lists :D |
| 14:26.41 | KivinSan | Stan_ Might have been correct that C# is a better entry point than VB.NET, but either of these are good places to start. |
| 14:26.55 | xyu | What is the difference between Visual Studio and Visual BASIC? are they different languages? |
| 14:27.04 | Stan_ | VS isnt a language |
| 14:27.11 | Stan_ | it's a set of IDEs |
| 14:27.11 | KivinSan | Visual Studio is the brand name for Microshaft's interactive development tools |
| 14:27.13 | xyu | It's just a tool? |
| 14:27.13 | sag_ich_nicht | they are only overwhelming to people that are used to other languages already where no stacks, pointers, linked-lists and similiar are found, the addition of them confuses them because they aren't sure what to do with them, if you get them thrown at you right in the beginning, you just take them as tool and learn to use them directly. |
| 14:27.21 | Stan_ | xyu: yeah |
| 14:27.34 | xyu | Stan_: oki thanks. |
| 14:27.41 | Adys | if the guy just wants to know the princips of programmation and quick stuff c is definitely not the way :p |
| 14:27.55 | KivinSan | Adys: I agree |
| 14:28.05 | Adys | that said, dont ever start with any BASIC language |
| 14:28.12 | Stan_ | C is a overkill for a starter |
| 14:28.22 | KivinSan | Adys: C# and VB.NET are very nearly the same creature |
| 14:28.39 | Adys | i dont know C# i cant say |
| 14:28.41 | Bruners | java is kindof easy to learn |
| 14:28.55 | KivinSan | Adys: C# is basically VB with pseudo-C syntax |
| 14:28.55 | Stan_ | the cool thing about the .NET languages is CLR |
| 14:29.27 | Stan_ | so you can code in C# together with a partner that codes J# |
| 14:29.39 | Stan_ | and so on.. |
| 14:29.42 | KivinSan | xyu: The bottom line is, no matter what .NET language you choose to program in, they all behave very close to the same, because they're all wrappeda round the .NET framework |
| 14:29.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:28] <Stan_> C is a overkill for a starter <--exactly. you should hunger for steak, not for soup. :) |
| 14:29.46 | Adys | about java |
| 14:29.48 | Adys | http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/08/0348239&from=rss |
| 14:29.50 | SunTsu | Stan_: I don't think so, the problem is, normally starter books tell people to use strcpy and such, which makes things more complicating and harder in debugging. Not to talk about the security holes that surely are a result of it |
| 14:29.52 | Adys | i lold |
| 14:30.02 | xyu | Is Python a language? |
| 14:30.04 | xyu | or a tool |
| 14:30.08 | xyu | or neither |
| 14:30.09 | xyu | :P |
| 14:30.09 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.09 | Stan_ | language |
| 14:30.10 | KivinSan | it's a scripting language, IIRC |
| 14:30.10 | Adys | language |
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| 14:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | script languagage |
| 14:30.15 | SunTsu | xyu: Al scripting language |
| 14:30.19 | Stan_ | lol^^ |
| 14:30.20 | kagaro | ping Ammo |
| 14:30.30 | Adys | python is okay to start with too |
| 14:30.46 | Adys | not too easy to babysit you and not too hard to disgust you :p |
| 14:30.50 | SunTsu | I nowadays propose "D" |
| 14:30.59 | KivinSan | o.o |
| 14:31.02 | sag_ich_nicht | python is also the only scripting language i know of that has a proper memory manager. |
| 14:31.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (in the reference implementation, that is) |
| 14:32.45 | sag_ich_nicht | every other scripting language(or to say, the default implementation of it) i tried to feed a simple exponential function with very large numbers just crashed/softlocked while python just happily started to work on it and spit the solution at me an hour later. |
| 14:32.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 14:32.47 | xyu | what is a scripting language? heh. it's not the same as .NET?" |
| 14:33.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it's intepreted "on the fly" |
| 14:33.02 | Hjalte | Does Sanity2 support guild bank? |
| 14:33.04 | KivinSan | scripts are interpreted during runtime |
| 14:33.05 | xyu | scripting is for controlling how applications work right? |
| 14:33.10 | wereHamster | SunTsu, you know that D already exists, right? |
| 14:33.15 | sag_ich_nicht | as opposed to being compiled to a binary(i.e. machine language) |
| 14:33.33 | SunTsu | wereHamster: Right, and it is great |
| 14:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | D is nice, but not anywhere near an industry standard |
| 14:34.31 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Right, but it is great to learn coding in, because it has a great concept, is not overly compley and not that far away from c/c++ |
| 14:34.42 | SunTsu | compex even |
| 14:34.46 | SunTsu | complex, dammit |
| 14:34.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i just slap the Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector into the C code and have everything i'd really need from D, since i'm lazy :> |
| 14:34.57 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@drms-590d57d5.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 14:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but i haven't seriously coded for years |
| 14:35.25 | elusif | is it normal that tbc wouldn't install |
| 14:35.33 | elusif | before i'd actually logged on with regular wow? |
| 14:35.45 | elusif | got an error on the second disc |
| 14:35.46 | sag_ich_nicht | make an image of the CD i dunno. |
| 14:35.48 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 14:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | make an image of the CD |
| 14:35.59 | elusif | ? |
| 14:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | the original BC discs have a bit of an defective |
| 14:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | as in |
| 14:36.01 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@89.166.195.76) |
| 14:36.01 | elusif | why? |
| 14:36.04 | elusif | hmm |
| 14:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not "defect" but "very hard to read for some CD drives" |
| 14:36.36 | elusif | k |
| 14:36.40 | xyu | Yep, I've seen a few bad 2nd CD's |
| 14:36.41 | elusif | just it used to work |
| 14:36.49 | xyu | It works off and on. |
| 14:36.55 | elusif | cool |
| 14:36.56 | xyu | and when it does get through , i had errors |
| 14:37.01 | xyu | still worked though |
| 14:37.03 | sag_ich_nicht | *a bit of a defect |
| 14:37.07 | elusif | but making an image of it will bypass that |
| 14:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ffs! |
| 14:37.09 | elusif | ty |
| 14:37.25 | xyu | In Taiwan they sold the DVD for 2 dollars US |
| 14:37.25 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.160.161) |
| 14:37.30 | xyu | wish they did that stateside |
| 14:37.46 | xyu | and they could be found in any corner store :P |
| 14:37.51 | xyu | 7-11 |
| 14:37.57 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:38.07 | xyu | ~morning |
| 14:38.07 | purl | Good morning! |
| 14:38.21 | elusif | i get the cds for wow and tbc €15 each |
| 14:38.23 | elusif | morn |
| 14:38.56 | xyu | how do you say "C#" ? |
| 14:39.01 | Recluse | see sharp |
| 14:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | C Sharp |
| 14:39.04 | xyu | ah |
| 14:40.18 | Pkekyo| | elusif: for 15 what? |
| 14:40.46 | xyu | Anyone have an opinion about Rebol? This webpage says it's a good place to start as well. |
| 14:40.54 | Recluse | you can get the wow+tbc battlechest here for 30USD |
| 14:41.15 | Pkekyo| | Recluse: where?! |
| 14:41.24 | xyu | Yeah but those are stil CD's and it's still 30 USD! Why dn't they just give us DVD's? |
| 14:41.29 | xyu | wtf is up w/ CDs |
| 14:41.35 | xyu | no one uses that shit anymore |
| 14:41.48 | Recluse | at the local wal-mart (i'm in texas) - $20 for wow, $20 for tbc, $30 for battlechest w/both |
| 14:41.56 | xyu | They pack like 6 of them in the box too. ugh. |
| 14:42.00 | elusif | Pkekyo|: 15 eurodollurz! |
| 14:42.06 | Pkekyo| | the install DVD was the only reason I bought TBC collector's ed :p |
| 14:42.18 | xyu | ohhh |
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| 14:42.23 | xyu | well then their tricky marketing scheme worked :( |
| 14:42.25 | elusif | Pkekyo|: want install dvd |
| 14:42.29 | Pkekyo| | weird, the euro sign wouldn't show here... *test* ¤ |
| 14:42.31 | elusif | loading cds sux |
| 14:42.32 | xyu | i hate you smart marketers!!!! |
| 14:42.45 | osstia_ | I as tempted to, but I waited for 2 hours in 3 degree weather just to get my CDs, I wasn't going to be picky when they said they soldout of DVDs |
| 14:42.49 | xyu | They got you to pay 20 dollars more just for a .0001 cent piece of plastic :P |
| 14:42.53 | elusif | hurry up downloading wow patch! |
| 14:42.59 | Pkekyo| | I've stopped buying anything on CDs, except empty ones |
| 14:43.16 | xyu | They get away with it because we pay it :( |
| 14:43.20 | Pkekyo| | xyu: well, the fancypants stuff that came with it was kinda cool too...the box was coolest though :p |
| 14:43.38 | elusif | is there a mod that will move the symbols for north, south, east and west as you turn? |
| 14:43.38 | xyu | Yeah but i bet that box is in your closet with dust on it |
| 14:43.40 | Pkekyo| | osstia_: l2preorderonzehintarwebs? |
| 14:43.41 | xyu | and you never summon your panda |
| 14:43.45 | xyu | because i know you got the panda |
| 14:44.06 | Pkekyo| | xyu: it's not in a closet, and there's no dust on it....also: panda? geif! |
| 14:44.09 | kagaro | ping nevcairiel |
| 14:44.13 | osstia_ | Pkekyo|: I did, then got there and they "ran out" of DVDs |
| 14:44.18 | osstia_ | but my will was gone |
| 14:44.34 | Pkekyo| | osstia_: I preordered the collector's ed and got it in the mail on releasedate |
| 14:44.35 | osstia_ | I took the CDs and a refund and went home so i could feel my limbs again |
| 14:45.02 | osstia_ | nice, I took a week off of work and didn't want it to be a waste because my DVD didn't ship right |
| 14:45.02 | xyu | Why coudln't they give the normal one a DVD though? was it a punishment for not forking over the phat lewts |
| 14:45.06 | elusif | basically i need a mod that will rotate the minimap as i turn |
| 14:45.25 | Pkekyo| | elusif: squeenix does that...well, it can do that |
| 14:45.35 | Pkekyo| | I'd just get dizzy from it and puke though :p |
| 14:45.43 | Recluse | had a friend buy original wow only to find out disk 7 was a clear plastic disc XD |
| 14:45.45 | xyu | elusif: i thought that was a blizzard enabled option now |
| 14:45.55 | osstia_ | isn't that an in-game option now? |
| 14:45.59 | xyu | There are 7 cd's in the box now? |
| 14:46.08 | xyu | when will it end! |
| 14:46.11 | Pkekyo| | christ |
| 14:46.14 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn- (n=eviljohn@67.110.71.24.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 14:46.22 | xyu | WoW 3.0 now comes with 12 awesome CDs for you to enjoy installing |
| 14:46.23 | Pkekyo| | I'll buy the Wrap of the Lizard King collector's ed too then :p |
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| 14:46.51 | Recluse | wotlk is what? another 11 months? |
| 14:47.08 | Pkekyo| | hopefully |
| 14:47.20 | xyu | I'm hoping something better will come along by then :P |
| 14:47.35 | Recluse | did anyone happen to see a post on 'why' they restarted realms this morning? |
| 14:47.41 | elusif | xyu: ty i will check it out |
| 14:47.46 | Pkekyo| | I simply can't be arsed to play another mmo |
| 14:47.56 | Pkekyo| | are the us forums down? |
| 14:47.57 | xyu | Why not? |
| 14:48.13 | osstia_ | I didn't recluse |
| 14:48.19 | Pkekyo| | because I barely can be arsed to play this one :p |
| 14:48.26 | Recluse | not down thta i'm aware of... XD |
| 14:48.27 | xyu | US forums are up |
| 14:48.52 | Recluse | 90% keylogger links tho >.> |
| 14:49.06 | KivinSan | I see lv.70s post keyloggers on the forums all the time. wtf is up with that? |
| 14:49.11 | KivinSan | doesn't blizzard ban for that rubbish? |
| 14:49.18 | Recluse | keyloggers post from keylogged accts |
| 14:49.18 | osstia_ | probably trying to patch AV again so it now takes 1 person to flag you inactive |
| 14:49.33 | xyu | I hope so! |
| 14:49.48 | xyu | Then i'll go into av just to report people |
| 14:49.51 | Recluse | i was hoping that they hotfixed the macro problem :p |
| 14:49.55 | osstia_ | I am so tired of that |
| 14:50.06 | Pkekyo| | did they fix the bloody gcd yet? |
| 14:50.19 | xyu | osstia_: of what, getting caught AFK!?!?!!? |
| 14:50.25 | osstia_ | no |
| 14:50.41 | KivinSan | I had to throw two people out of my guild last week for constant AV AFking =/ |
| 14:50.49 | kenlyric | uh.... |
| 14:50.49 | osstia_ | I was in an AV before work this morning, and I didn't even ,make it to the field of strife and 22/40 people were reported afk already |
| 14:50.55 | kenlyric | had to? |
| 14:51.02 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.03 | xyu | That's fine, they'll get into combat |
| 14:51.07 | osstia_ | no its not |
| 14:51.07 | xyu | and the AFK flag will be removed |
| 14:51.14 | osstia_ | Thats stupid |
| 14:51.14 | KivinSan | kenlyric:? |
| 14:51.26 | kenlyric | KivinSan: yes? |
| 14:51.36 | KivinSan | you were saying? |
| 14:51.36 | osstia_ | because if you stop at SH bunker to cap, and stay to defend and alliance don't show up. YOu do not get the honor |
| 14:51.43 | kenlyric | KivinSan: "had to"? |
| 14:51.44 | osstia_ | this whole system is stupid |
| 14:51.47 | KivinSan | Yes |
| 14:51.53 | kenlyric | how do you have to kick somebody out for AFK in AV? |
| 14:51.59 | xyu | osstia_ just hit someone when they come by IW bunker |
| 14:52.17 | KivinSan | Because I don't accept that sort of behavior in my guild |
| 14:52.19 | osstia_ | I am past IW bunker while the alliance are at balinda |
| 14:52.27 | kenlyric | ah. so again I say. /lame |
| 14:52.27 | elusif | would it be a bad idea to try and install tbc while i'm using the blizzard downloader? |
| 14:52.43 | osstia_ | so i eityher have to stop and wait which slows progress, or leave SH bunker to go find someone. Both are stupid |
| 14:52.43 | xyu | you said stonehearth defense, isn't that right next to icewing bunker? |
| 14:52.50 | Pkekyo| | KivinSan: a pvp guild? |
| 14:52.52 | kenlyric | on a ranked list of the things I wouldn't want guild members doing, AFK in AV is #763 |
| 14:52.53 | osstia_ | IW bunker is north |
| 14:52.54 | KivinSan | Pkekyo|: no |
| 14:53.00 | Pkekyo| | hms |
| 14:53.03 | xyu | Oh |
| 14:53.06 | osstia_ | buut again, I have to leave the bunker I am defending |
| 14:53.06 | xyu | you meant SH bunker |
| 14:53.07 | xyu | not flag |
| 14:53.23 | osstia_ | yes, I typically try to hold bunkers till they cap, or defend ours |
| 14:53.40 | KivinSan | kenlyric; Going afk in AV and being AFK in AV 100% of the time are two completely different creatures |
| 14:53.41 | xyu | Yeah, afk'ers ruin it. |
| 14:53.52 | xyu | I report defenders because majority of them are afk. :P |
| 14:53.53 | osstia_ | IMO afk'ers do nothing to AV |
| 14:53.57 | kenlyric | KivinSan: yes, but they're both included under #763 |
| 14:54.02 | kenlyric | um |
| 14:54.06 | kenlyric | how is that an opinion? |
| 14:54.10 | kenlyric | afk MEANS they're doing nothing. |
| 14:54.12 | exor674 | ... where are the ship NPCs |
| 14:54.20 | osstia_ | but both teams on average have afk'ers |
| 14:54.33 | kenlyric | I AFK for balance |
| 14:54.33 | osstia_ | so they are not making aa noticble difference in the outcome |
| 14:54.34 | exor674 | didn't 2.3.2 bring them back? |
| 14:54.34 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 14:54.48 | kenlyric | exor674: should have. |
| 14:55.02 | kenlyric | maybe that's why they restarted... to turn them off again? :) |
| 14:55.05 | xyu | what blizzard has to realize is WHY do people afk? |
| 14:55.06 | KivinSan | kenlyric: That's pretty fucked up. Nice to see that the AFKs come up with some twisted way to justify why it's alright. |
| 14:55.16 | xyu | because AV is a piece of crap, and is only good for honor farming |
| 14:55.18 | kenlyric | KivinSan: you're pretty dense, friend. |
| 14:55.37 | kenlyric | I don't actually afk in AV. It was a joke. |
| 14:55.40 | Pkekyo| | why can't blizzard make it so that if someone stays in the bloody cave for 5min they get booted out and gets the deserter debuff? |
| 14:55.42 | Codayus | xyu: Bliz understands, I think. |
| 14:56.02 | xyu | Pkekyo|: AFk'ers on my server are much more sneaky |
| 14:56.04 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: well, if they *actually* go afk, they do. |
| 14:56.15 | kenlyric | probably is AFK in AV isn't actually AFK |
| 14:56.25 | kenlyric | *problem is |
| 14:56.27 | xyu | AFK'ers on my server rush to some random place in thei middle of the map |
| 14:56.28 | xyu | and hide |
| 14:56.32 | xyu | like in those huts next to SH |
| 14:56.36 | xyu | so it "Looks" like they're in combat |
| 14:56.38 | kenlyric | autofollow the back. |
| 14:56.42 | Recluse | Pkekyo: then all the AFKers would just walk 5ft from the cave's entrance and AFK there |
| 14:56.44 | kenlyric | dammit |
| 14:56.46 | Codayus | I believe the said they're hotfixing it so it takes a lot fewer afk reports to flag someone as afk. That'll help... |
| 14:56.46 | kenlyric | *pack |
| 14:56.48 | KivinSan | kenlyric: I might be quicker to look for humour if you wern't just putting me down for outlawing AFKing, *Friend* |
| 14:56.49 | kenlyric | then never rez. |
| 14:57.06 | xyu | just "defend" a bunker |
| 14:57.17 | kenlyric | defend a graveyard with your ghost. |
| 14:57.18 | xyu | Not only are you afk, but you're rewarded! |
| 14:57.21 | kenlyric | haunting |
| 14:58.02 | Recluse | most of the AFKers I see now go up into the mountains in the barren areas to sit around |
| 14:58.05 | xyu | I've seen afk'ers leech honor kills under the alliance bridge, since a lot of killing happens there later in the game. |
| 14:58.29 | *** join/#wowace Korben (n=Korben@c83-250-135-168.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 14:58.39 | Korben | hey guys and girls |
| 14:58.45 | xyu | Hi robot |
| 14:58.53 | Recluse | lol |
| 14:59.29 | Korben | i was wondering if anyone maybe know about a good mod for keeping track of loot that drops in raids |
| 14:59.36 | Korben | with good export ability |
| 14:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | step 1 to being a really PITA and dick to your own faction as alliance: equip crystal of zin-malor |
| 14:59.47 | sag_ich_nicht | step 2: ??? |
| 14:59.49 | Korben | and where u can eazy make notes how much persons pay for it |
| 14:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | step 3: profit! |
| 15:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | *a real |
| 15:00.22 | xyu | i use eternalDKP but i am not sure if that is what you're looking for |
| 15:00.26 | sag_ich_nicht | EPGP. |
| 15:00.34 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself if you use any other DKP system. |
| 15:00.39 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: PITA? |
| 15:00.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ~pita |
| 15:00.43 | purl | pita is probably pain in the ass, or a bread-like food |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58173 10SpamMeNot/ (5 files): |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | - No longer blocks unsolicited invitations if you are looking for a group. |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | - No longer uses the AceComm channel. |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | - Now correctly counts the number of spams blocked (it was hardly counting any before). |
| 15:00.52 | CIA-4 | - Spam rating functions have had an overhaul. They should now be able to cope better in chinese locales. |
| 15:00.54 | CIA-4 | - Pressing escape will now close the spam UI. |
| 15:01.09 | Korben | well im just steping in for a allready fucked up dkp system :P |
| 15:01.21 | Korben | and changeing anything would just fucke everthing up :P |
| 15:01.42 | Korben | i just want something to keep track during raids isted of typing it down on papper |
| 15:01.44 | xyu | Can you use 12[Crystal of Zin-Malor]1 to kill yourself during progression runs? !? ^_^ |
| 15:02.06 | Codayus | If what you want is to track loot, NRT is best I think. |
| 15:02.06 | xyu | muahaha F U durability hits |
| 15:02.31 | Codayus | Has export support, but may or may not do what you want. |
| 15:02.33 | Korben | Codayus dose it have option to add notes and export ? |
| 15:02.38 | Korben | oh ok |
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| 15:03.09 | xyu | what is EPGP? |
| 15:03.16 | Xinhuan | [1/10 23:01:28] <xyu> Can you use [Crystal of Zin-Malor] to kill yourself during progression runs? !? ^_^ |
| 15:03.19 | Xinhuan | yes you can |
| 15:03.21 | xyu | ~EPGP |
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| 15:03.43 | Xinhuan | you can also use it to kill yourself in Alterac Valley and damaging yourself appears to remove the afk debuff. |
| 15:04.03 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 15:04.05 | xyu | niftay! although it's a trinket though. so i think 9[Skull of Impending Doom]1 is a better choice. |
| 15:04.17 | sylvanaar_work | the skull! |
| 15:04.17 | Xinhuan | haha? |
| 15:04.20 | sylvanaar_work | awesome |
| 15:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | xyu please use the color tag 99 after coloring something |
| 15:04.40 | sag_ich_nicht | or just an empty color tag |
| 15:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | do NOT use the black tag |
| 15:04.47 | xyu | lol oh yeah |
| 15:04.55 | Grum | hehe |
| 15:04.58 | Grum | even better, dont use colors! |
| 15:05.14 | Grum | use bold/italic/underline/dunnowhat! |
| 15:05.15 | xyu | ^ agreed |
| 15:05.48 | xyu | i've had a few successful skull deaths during a wipe |
| 15:05.52 | xyu | but sometimes people heal me |
| 15:05.54 | xyu | and i cry |
| 15:06.14 | kenlyric | I love when people use the black color tag. |
| 15:06.21 | kenlyric | then you don't have to read what they write. |
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| 15:06.34 | kenlyric | MOAR |
| 15:06.43 | Grum | 0 kenlyric sucks! |
| 15:06.46 | Grum | oh dang :P |
| 15:06.49 | Grum | that was white >< |
| 15:07.26 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 15:07.29 | sag_ich_nicht | that skull is interesting |
| 15:07.33 | sag_ich_nicht | does it cause rep cost? |
| 15:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | and does it have the standard 30 second equip use cooldown? D: |
| 15:08.03 | Xinhuan | no and yes |
| 15:08.24 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58174 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc: |
| 15:08.24 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 15:08.24 | CIA-4 | - Corrected revision string |
| 15:08.28 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 15:08.34 | xyu | sag_ich_nicht: yes 30 sec cooldown |
| 15:08.45 | sag_ich_nicht | so now i need to hope i didn't do that quest yet on my main. |
| 15:09.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but i fear i did |
| 15:11.50 | Pkekyo| | should I go farm BGs at lvl 59? |
| 15:11.50 | CIA-4 | 03gagorian * r58175 10DrDamage/ (Data/Priest.lua Readme.txt): |
| 15:11.50 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 15:11.50 | CIA-4 | - SW: P does not downrank apparently |
| 15:12.24 | Gagorian | Well, that explanation was shit |
| 15:12.32 | Gagorian | Does not get penalty from downranking! |
| 15:12.44 | Korben | NRT seems simple but no reall gui to check players and add loot manualy |
| 15:12.53 | Korben | i guess it trigers when something drops ? |
| 15:13.27 | kagaro | agorian just burns the global cooldown, though I do spam rank 1, when chasing alar to keep my crusader card stacked. |
| 15:14.00 | Codayus | Korben: Yes. |
| 15:14.40 | Pkekyo| | should I go farm BGs at lvl 59? |
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| 15:19.56 | Pkekyo| | christ, some moron just disbanded my arenateam because he wanted to join another one |
| 15:22.36 | FinalX | :| |
| 15:23.02 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: I suddest morder |
| 15:23.21 | xyu | http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~dmackay/troxed.swf |
| 15:23.21 | *** join/#wowace Viras (n=IceChat7@mk084020164006.a1.net) |
| 15:23.30 | Pkekyo| | exor674: if only I knew where the fucker lived |
| 15:23.39 | SunTsu | I suggest asking a GM to reverse it and have some RSP applied to the player who did it |
| 15:23.41 | Viras | the fucker lives here |
| 15:23.42 | Viras | ^^ |
| 15:24.00 | Viras | hi @ all anyway ;) |
| 15:24.09 | Pkekyo| | fought our way up from 1400-something to 1700-something and the tosser just disbanded it to join some 1800-something team |
| 15:24.17 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: RSP? |
| 15:25.18 | exor674 | Disclamer: do not follow through with any of exor674's murder suggestions. If you do decide to kill someoen after hearing exor674's advice, exor674 cannot be held responsible for any detainmet, jail time, and/or death sentances you will recieve. |
| 15:25.33 | exor674 | <_< |
| 15:25.49 | elusif | please recommend a freeware program to create an image of tbc disc 2? |
| 15:25.52 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: "Remote Strangulation Protocol" |
| 15:26.25 | Pkekyo| | here RSP is military reserve food :p "Rester av Sprengt Personale" |
| 15:27.05 | FinalX | elusif: nero? or just upload the files? :p 'dd' on lunix systems works fine too :P |
| 15:27.05 | osstia_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.10 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: that might be worse then stangulation |
| 15:27.31 | osstia_ | FinalX: theres a dd forn win32 too, I use it all the time |
| 15:27.38 | Pkekyo| | exor674: it's not that bad, really...it's not good either though :p |
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| 15:28.11 | exor674 | I wouldn't want to have it applied to me |
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| 15:28.43 | FinalX | osstia_: not standard though, people are much more likely to have nero installed than having dd |
| 15:29.11 | osstia_ | yes, but nero is not free, dd is. So I like to toss that out there |
| 15:29.13 | Pkekyo| | exor674: why not? |
| 15:29.37 | FinalX | dont know why you'd want to create an image of a WoW CD though, you can just throw all files into 1 big dir if wanted, no need to make a disc image... |
| 15:29.50 | FinalX | osstia_: Nero often comes as OEM package with burners, pretty much all nowadays :P |
| 15:29.59 | FinalX | Or use the package you got with your burner :p |
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| 15:30.49 | FinalX | hm, I should make a new iscsi volume on my netapp ... running low on disk space on my current one >.< |
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| 15:32.22 | osstia_ | I <3 my netapps |
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| 15:33.07 | exor674 | being slathered with food isn't my dream ;P |
| 15:33.15 | exor674 | its a waste of food :D |
| 15:33.27 | FinalX | Got my own at work to fiddle around with, testing out our new virtualisation environments on very nice boxes w/ a dedicated netapp <3 |
| 15:33.52 | osstia_ | What are you using for virtualization? VMWare? |
| 15:34.28 | FinalX | Aye, for now. |
| 15:34.47 | FinalX | We were getting a Xen-based environment built as well, but that took too long. |
| 15:36.11 | [Ammo] | we're using Xen extensively here |
| 15:36.25 | osstia_ | I have an ESX farm here with 25 servers and about 150 virtual machines |
| 15:36.31 | osstia_ | most of it on netapp ISCSI |
| 15:36.51 | [Ammo] | mainly for pluggable extra DB power, or storage etc |
| 15:37.47 | FinalX | osstia_: Can you limit disk i/o per VM and all in ESX? Thought you could. Saw the nice dragging around of vm's though that I liked :p |
| 15:38.49 | osstia_ | yes |
| 15:38.55 | RaydenUni | it's against TOS for a mod to communicate with another program right? |
| 15:38.57 | osstia_ | its kinda hokey how you do it, but it is possible |
| 15:39.05 | RaydenUni | say an IRC server? |
| 15:39.19 | RaydenUni | we've discussed this already but i want to verify my facts for someone else |
| 15:39.21 | CIA-4 | 03gagorian * r58176 10DrDamage/ (Data/Druid.lua Melee.lua): |
| 15:39.21 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 15:39.21 | CIA-4 | - Fixed manually set mitigation incorrectly applying to bleed type attacks |
| 15:39.23 | [Ammo] | RaydenUni: it's impossible even |
| 15:39.26 | osstia_ | RaydenUni: I was told last week you cannot access the internet from inside the game |
| 15:39.37 | FinalX | Well. |
| 15:39.43 | FinalX | You don't need to access the internet from in-game. |
| 15:39.44 | Josh_Borke | nothing is impossible |
| 15:39.48 | FinalX | You can read/write variables, right? |
| 15:39.50 | FinalX | :p |
| 15:39.59 | [Ammo] | write is only done on reloadui/exit etc |
| 15:40.06 | FinalX | ah right |
| 15:40.12 | [Ammo] | so for communication you will be disturbing your gameplay quite a bit |
| 15:40.19 | [Ammo] | the saving of vars fucntion was removed |
| 15:40.21 | Josh_Borke | [Ammo]: exactly |
| 15:40.38 | Josh_Borke | it would be easy to read information out of the game |
| 15:40.39 | [dRaCo] | the screenshot stuff should still work, shouldnt it? |
| 15:40.42 | Josh_Borke | but hard to get information into the game |
| 15:40.50 | Josh_Borke | [dRaCo]: sure |
| 15:40.53 | RaydenUni | thoughts on WoW using jabber? |
| 15:41.06 | [Ammo] | [dRaCo]: an openGL screenreader and color coded pixel communication will work yeah |
| 15:41.21 | [Ammo] | for communication to the outside |
| 15:41.35 | [Ammo] | reading stuff again will require a reload though |
| 15:41.57 | RaydenUni | having wow implement a jabber client |
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| 15:42.24 | [Ammo] | you can not have communication to the outside with wow without reloading your UI all the time |
| 15:42.34 | RaydenUni | Jabber would be really cool |
| 15:42.40 | RaydenUni | hosted on a wow jabber server |
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| 15:42.49 | RaydenUni | but if you had a wow account you could login outside and talk to people |
| 15:43.44 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Only if blizzard would supply the server(s). So you could have <charname>@<faction>.<realm>.warcraft.com |
| 15:44.05 | FinalX | hehe we host a jabber server ^^ |
| 15:44.06 | SunTsu | as an jabber ID, that is |
| 15:44.17 | exor674 | RaydenUni: you want to talk to your friends right? here's how. 1. run windowed, 2. run AIM/Pigin/a raw telnet session to a jabber server beside WoW |
| 15:44.28 | exor674 | 3. chat that way |
| 15:44.51 | FinalX | xD |
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| 15:45.12 | SunTsu | I use irssi + bitlbee on a second screen. Works great |
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| 15:45.36 | Octane666 | Heya guys. I have a noob SVN question. Can I get it to automatically replace my version number in my .toc file with the SVN revision number? I'm trying this but I think it's wrong. |
| 15:45.39 | Octane666 | ## Version: 1.$Revision: 0 $ |
| 15:46.14 | exor674 | that only'll update if your SVN changes |
| 15:46.16 | exor674 | er.. TOC |
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| 15:46.32 | FinalX | If you want to use properties in a file you have to propset em. |
| 15:46.47 | FinalX | Or do you mean, make it look like "Version: 1.1" ? |
| 15:47.19 | Octane666 | Yeah or 1.58174 as the case my be |
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| 15:48.12 | Octane666 | Basically 1.X where X is the SVN revision number |
| 15:49.16 | Gagorian | You'd need to SVN your toc every new revision then |
| 15:49.30 | Gagorian | If you want it to stay up to date |
| 15:49.58 | Josh_Borke | Octane666: that's an awful idea |
| 15:51.04 | Octane666 | What's the difference between that and AddOns like Omen that do the same thing but tag it like this? |
| 15:51.05 | Octane666 | ## X-Build: $Revision: 55025 $ |
| 15:53.28 | Amadeo | heh, wow...Comcast is going to start selling 160Mbps cable sometime this year |
| 15:53.48 | osstia_ | Will is still stop functioning once a week for no apparent reason? |
| 15:53.56 | osstia_ | fscking comcast !! |
| 15:54.11 | kenlyric | what do you need 160Mbps if you can't torrent? |
| 15:54.28 | Amadeo | I had a lot of problems early on with Comcast, but I made them replace the line that runs to my house, and I've had no problems since |
| 15:54.31 | khangg | usenet :o |
| 15:54.34 | Amadeo | Aside from that, I hate Comcast also :P |
| 15:54.48 | osstia_ | I have had them for 4 years and the first 3.5 were awesome |
| 15:54.52 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Hopefully the FCC will do something about that |
| 15:54.55 | kenlyric | usenet is a lot of work to find the free servers. |
| 15:55.04 | khangg | comcast doesnt' have their own? |
| 15:55.09 | osstia_ | the last 6 months it seems they watch me in game and the second I queue for an arena they dick with me |
| 15:55.13 | osstia_ | 1200 pings |
| 15:55.25 | kenlyric | khangg: doubtfuly they carry binary newsgroups :) |
| 15:55.46 | Amadeo | osstia_: You should have em check your lines |
| 15:56.11 | osstia_ | Amadeo: I have. Its always a "Partial Node Outage in your area" should be fixed by tomorrow morning |
| 15:56.35 | Amadeo | heh, it's probably the same one every time |
| 15:56.52 | kenlyric | hey, they added scifi and food network HD this week. |
| 15:56.55 | kenlyric | they can't be all bad :) |
| 15:56.56 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58177 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc: |
| 15:56.56 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 15:56.56 | CIA-4 | - Updated .toc. |
| 15:57.08 | kenlyric | now, if only we had a new show on scifi to watch.... |
| 15:57.13 | osstia_ | haha, I use them for internet only. but food network is my favorite |
| 15:57.21 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I saw some crazy show the other night called Guinea Pig |
| 15:57.25 | kenlyric | food network *HD* |
| 15:57.40 | Amadeo | Some guy was letting all kinds of animals/reptiles/insects bite him and stuff |
| 15:57.44 | kenlyric | if we had wonkavision, we'd be seet. |
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| 16:00.12 | osstia_ | I caught the HD part |
| 16:00.30 | osstia_ | was just commenting on my unnatural attraction to the food network |
| 16:02.15 | kenlyric | right. I was further stressing the HD part. |
| 16:02.28 | kenlyric | it's the awesome of food network, but in better resolution than real food! |
| 16:03.03 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 16:12.44 | Hjalte | Anyone else on EU realms lagging BAD? I'm on Dunemaul and it's unplayable :\ |
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| 16:19.03 | steino | 32ms |
| 16:19.05 | steino | :o |
| 16:20.21 | [Liquidor] | Anyone know of any 'minimaltistic' Interface Compilations? |
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| 16:23.24 | Bruners | [Liquidor]: why dont you just install the addons you need ? |
| 16:23.43 | exor674 | bleh |
| 16:23.48 | exor674 | *stabs ClosetGnome in theface* |
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| 16:27.56 | elusif | i'm trying to reinstall itemrack |
| 16:28.02 | elusif | i delete it from the addons folder |
| 16:28.05 | elusif | and restart wow |
| 16:28.12 | elusif | but when i do it has the same settings as before |
| 16:28.16 | elusif | is there something else i need to delete? |
| 16:28.22 | durcyn | saved variables. |
| 16:28.50 | elusif | won't that delete the settings for all my mods? |
| 16:28.53 | elusif | also where is the file? |
| 16:28.59 | durcyn | no, just the itemrack saved variables. |
| 16:29.13 | [Liquidor] | Hahahahaha, seriously who can get turned on by this? http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2034/ouchmyeyesyv5.jpg |
| 16:29.28 | elusif | ty durcyn |
| 16:29.35 | durcyn | WTF/Account/<account>/SavedVariables/ItemRack.lua and WTF/Account/<account>/<realm>/<character>/SavedVariables/ItemRack.lua |
| 16:29.50 | durcyn | don't clobber any of the parent directories, that would be silly. |
| 16:31.02 | Stan_ | http://www.steampowered.com/nvidia/# |
| 16:34.15 | vhaarr | exor674: what's wrong? |
| 16:34.35 | exor674 | I had to swap the order of my righs |
| 16:34.38 | exor674 | er, rings |
| 16:34.55 | exor674 | otherwise my cloak wouldn't equip and one of my rings wouldn't in my druids healy set |
| 16:35.07 | vhaarr | but it works after you swapped the rings? |
| 16:35.09 | kenlyric | anyone remember that image which showed the decision tree for choosing which console to buy? |
| 16:35.27 | elusif | durcyn: i deleted both those files and the dir from addons but whenever i reinstall it has the same settings |
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| 16:35.39 | vhaarr | do you have any friends? y/n -> real friends/internet friends -> etc |
| 16:35.41 | vhaarr | I remember it! |
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| 16:36.00 | khangg | Stan_, free games? :o |
| 16:36.13 | kenlyric | I didn't bookmark it, and now I can't find it. |
| 16:36.28 | exor674 | vhaarr: lemme test a bit more |
| 16:36.38 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r58178 10SpamMeNot/ (Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 16:36.39 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 16:36.39 | CIA-4 | - Updated svn:keywords |
| 16:36.42 | elusif | durcyn: though there is no itemrack.lua in WTF/Account/<account>/<realm>/<character>/SavedVariables/ItemRack.lua |
| 16:36.49 | chiper | fucking A! Soul Calibur 4's gonna have Yoda and Vader in it |
| 16:36.51 | elusif | only in WTF/Account/<account>/SavedVariables/ |
| 16:38.11 | kenlyric | http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6989/consolechartyr2.jpg |
| 16:38.13 | kenlyric | yay digg! |
| 16:39.39 | durcyn | elusif: that's fine, just means it's not using per-character saved variables. |
| 16:40.00 | elusif | but it's using settings i saved |
| 16:40.05 | elusif | i.e. - sets of items i saved |
| 16:40.14 | elusif | i deleted everything in wtf for good measure |
| 16:40.23 | elusif | i don't have anything else saved because i just reinstalled |
| 16:40.56 | durcyn | are you using 1.9 or 2.1 |
| 16:41.29 | elusif | 1.992 |
| 16:41.36 | elusif | i didn't know there was a 2.1 |
| 16:42.30 | durcyn | i see four savedvar namespaces in the toc, nil them out and reload ui |
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| 16:43.29 | elusif | googling for 2.1 |
| 16:43.34 | elusif | not on curse or wowace |
| 16:43.45 | osstia_ | anyone know of the origin of the term "batshit crazy"? |
| 16:44.08 | Hjalte | Stan_: Great. |
| 16:45.17 | Pkekyo| | meh, just shaved for the first time in ages...I'm cold :< |
| 16:45.27 | durcyn | elusif: it's on wowinterface |
| 16:45.30 | Hjalte | osstia_: Unless it is a person who is crazy about batshit, I don't... |
| 16:46.21 | osstia_ | Pkekyo|: I haven't shaved in over a year. I worry about the same thing |
| 16:46.51 | osstia_ | I keep my beard clean and trimmed, but I worry when I shave it I will freeze |
| 16:49.58 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 16:50.09 | Pkekyo| | I used to have almost a full-beard, now I've only got a small goatee left >.< |
| 16:50.16 | Pkekyo| | I should know better than to shave during winter by now :p |
| 16:50.22 | osstia_ | someone got me a gift certificate for a facial for christmas |
| 16:50.29 | osstia_ | I don't want to use it, cause I would have to shave |
| 16:51.19 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: nooooo, you got rid of your wirey viking beard :( |
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| 16:51.48 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: look more like a viking now tbh, the semi full-beard was too neatly trimmed :p |
| 16:51.56 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:52.14 | mitchnull | yo |
| 16:52.21 | Osstia | yo |
| 16:52.39 | mitchnull | are the pom-pyro-trinket macros broken in general, or it's just mine? |
| 16:52.40 | Amadeo | paul mitchnull |
| 16:53.02 | Osstia | I prefer vidal sasoon |
| 16:53.07 | exor674 | vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/80487 |
| 16:53.21 | exor674 | listed out contents of my sets and what I get when I swap between sets |
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| 16:54.05 | Osstia | I don't use a po-pyro macro, so sorry, can't help you there |
| 16:54.08 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: speaking of viking beards, seen the bass player of queens of the stone age? :p |
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| 16:54.48 | Amadeo | I haven't seen Queens of the Stone Age in a long time |
| 16:54.58 | Amadeo | I thought they came out with that one song and then disappeared |
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| 16:55.53 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mobUJVX3UCQ there's his imba beard :p |
| 16:56.45 | Amadeo | I must be thinking of the wrong band, I didn't think that was them, lol |
| 16:56.47 | mitchnull | osstia: I don't use pom-pyro either, but I thought that's a common name for such macros, that's why I asked like that. I use (or would like to use) trinket + Icy Veins macro, but it seems it only works out-of-combat... |
| 16:56.51 | vhaarr | exor674: yeah, so if you put the rings in the "right" order, then it works? |
| 16:56.56 | exor674 | yeah |
| 16:56.58 | vhaarr | good |
| 16:57.05 | chiper | all this viking talk calls for a play of Immigrant Song |
| 16:57.14 | exor674 | it seems like if the rings are swapping with other things |
| 16:57.37 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: beard size and form satisfying enough? :p |
| 16:57.46 | Amadeo | it's not bad |
| 16:57.52 | exor674 | I had a ring in both sets, it was in the top slot in the first and the bottom in the second |
| 16:58.05 | vhaarr | yeah I know |
| 16:58.13 | chiper | hmm, I should write a macro to trigger AP+trink+POMpyro |
| 16:58.14 | vhaarr | it's a known bug, but not one that requires fixing |
| 16:58.23 | vhaarr | since it's easy to just put the rings in the other order and it works fine |
| 16:58.26 | chiper | uber dps flinger |
| 16:58.27 | Osstia | chiper: already listening :) |
| 16:59.18 | mitchnull | chiper: if you try that macro, get back to me with results please... mine doesn't work since last patch :( |
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| 17:01.28 | exor674 | bugs are fun :D |
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| 17:06.33 | Osstia | ouch, from zeppelin to thompson twins. Party shuffle is not always the best idea... |
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| 17:08.52 | Pkekyo| | anyone else experience ridiculous loadingtimes since the patch? |
| 17:09.49 | Osstia | I don't think I have seen a noticeable difference in load times |
| 17:10.20 | chiper | mitchnull: where does it choke up at? |
| 17:10.59 | khangg | it's faster for me nowadays |
| 17:11.26 | chiper | my load times don't seem any different. |
| 17:11.38 | mitchnull | chiper: it sais "other action is in progress" or somesuch |
| 17:11.44 | mitchnull | chiper: out of combat it works just fine |
| 17:12.04 | chiper | tho I should probably run a defrag. WoW update always fragments like a mofo |
| 17:12.21 | chiper | mitchnull: hmm, ok |
| 17:12.37 | chiper | might have to make it a sequence |
| 17:12.51 | chiper | none of those items are on the GCD, right? |
| 17:12.52 | mitchnull | I'll do more testing though, as I only found it during fast-paced encounters with the horde, so I didn't have much time to accurately record events... |
| 17:13.04 | mitchnull | they shouldn't be |
| 17:13.23 | mitchnull | although Icy Veins could be on the GCD by mistake, but that would seriously suck |
| 17:14.13 | Osstia | but wouldn't the GCD effect you out of comboat as well mitchnull? |
| 17:14.25 | Osstia | combat too |
| 17:16.07 | chiper | shame POM doesnt work with arcane missles any more |
| 17:16.14 | chiper | love it when Focus procs on that |
| 17:16.32 | mitchnull | well, dunno |
| 17:16.49 | mitchnull | I need to do more controlled tests |
| 17:17.03 | mitchnull | first I'm trying to find some reports of similar stuff on the forums |
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| 17:21.26 | charon | morning |
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| 17:26.05 | Pkekyo| | for some reason, WoW loading times have been raised by 4-6 times what it used to be before the patch |
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| 17:29.26 | chiper | Pkekyo|: have you defragged since the patch? |
| 17:29.35 | Pkekyo| | chiper: not for years :p |
| 17:29.42 | chiper | well there's your problem |
| 17:30.01 | Pkekyo| | haven't done it since the glory days of win90 :p |
| 17:30.11 | Pkekyo| | I tend to just format and reinstall win instead |
| 17:30.13 | chiper | last time I did a full defrag I saw a 70% load time reduction |
| 17:30.13 | xyu | Which defrag program do you suggesT? :D |
| 17:30.22 | Pkekyo| | how does defragging work in winxp? |
| 17:30.36 | Pkekyo| | xyu: the win98 default one is really good, if memory serves xD |
| 17:30.37 | chiper | I like O&O Defrag, but the windows defrag tool should work too |
| 17:31.06 | xyu | i've tried o&o i like it |
| 17:31.08 | Estil | great I lag in WoW while doing an escort quest |
| 17:31.28 | CIA-4 | 03werehamster * r58179 10IFrameManager/IFrameManager.lua: IFrameManager: If a parent frame is missing, reset the layout. |
| 17:31.33 | Estil | thanks blizzared |
| 17:31.57 | xyu | Volume fragmentation: TOtal fragmentation = 21% File Fragmentation = 41% |
| 17:31.59 | xyu | nice! :D |
| 17:32.06 | chiper | the patch updaters all change things inside large compressed files, so those files get fragmented like crazy |
| 17:32.10 | xyu | "You should defrag" it says |
| 17:32.36 | kergoth | i use perfectdisk, have it defrag every morning at 4am or so.. usually done by the time i wake up |
| 17:32.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:32.39 | xyu | what's yours Pkekyo| ? :D |
| 17:32.41 | Estil | oh great I failed the quest and haev died! |
| 17:32.45 | Amadeo | Yes, best defrag is PerfectDisk |
| 17:32.46 | Pkekyo| | what's mine what xyu? |
| 17:32.53 | xyu | fragmented percent |
| 17:32.58 | wereHamster | ~fail Estil |
| 17:32.58 | purl | Estil: Fail. |
| 17:32.59 | Pkekyo| | how can I tell? :p |
| 17:33.16 | xyu | Programs - > accessories -> system tools -> defrag tool |
| 17:33.20 | xyu | -> analyze |
| 17:33.26 | xyu | -> View report |
| 17:33.33 | Estil | blame blizzard |
| 17:34.08 | Pkekyo| | I really should've used an english windows client |
| 17:34.15 | xyu | doh |
| 17:34.18 | Pkekyo| | any way to get this localized piece of shit to become english? :p |
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| 17:34.35 | xyu | IME settings maybe, |
| 17:34.37 | xyu | i doubt it though |
| 17:34.40 | chiper | the icons and buttons should be in the same place :P |
| 17:34.54 | Estil | use AppLocale |
| 17:35.15 | Estil | it can force an application to run under certain localization regardless of OS |
| 17:35.18 | Estil | you need to DL that from MS and install it |
| 17:35.37 | xyu | Hmm i wonder if that will help me |
| 17:35.44 | xyu | My windows volume control is in chinese |
| 17:35.44 | Pkekyo| | xyu: 34% total fragmentation :p |
| 17:35.50 | Pkekyo| | file fragmentation 62% |
| 17:35.51 | xyu | even though i use windows US |
| 17:36.02 | xyu | even in vent it's in chinese |
| 17:36.04 | Estil | if your "location" setting is not US then it'll bel ike it |
| 17:36.09 | xyu | It is set to US |
| 17:36.12 | xyu | and it always has been :( |
| 17:36.15 | Estil | then it's weird |
| 17:36.24 | Estil | if only few apps are like that, use applocale I guess |
| 17:36.35 | xyu | Only my volume controls |
| 17:36.37 | chiper | that's what you get for using torrented installs :P |
| 17:37.03 | Pkekyo| | so...someone learn me how I should defrag my drive :p |
| 17:37.04 | xyu | it's not though :( it happened when i installed chinese language bar |
| 17:37.20 | Estil | just use default defragmentation program that comse with XP |
| 17:37.24 | ShenDK | yeah 2.3.2 is hell on my rig as well.. yesterday everything froze up for 30 secs at a time |
| 17:37.27 | Estil | all the good ones cost $ |
| 17:37.30 | Estil | (or pirate it) |
| 17:37.44 | Pkekyo| | should I just press the defrag button and go back about my buisness? |
| 17:37.52 | xyu | do it when you sleep |
| 17:37.54 | chiper | Pkekyo|: yeah |
| 17:38.03 | Estil | if you defrag, you are not supposed to use the computer |
| 17:38.04 | xyu | i dont think the windows one supports working on your computer while defragging does it? |
| 17:38.07 | chiper | I'm running the windows one right now on my work machine |
| 17:38.09 | ShenDK | yea, but depending on how fast your hard drive is, you may lag enev more in WoW while it works |
| 17:38.23 | Pkekyo| | Estil: I won't be able to defrag ever then :p |
| 17:38.28 | xyu | You shouldn't be using the computer |
| 17:38.28 | Estil | because if you do stuff on the computer, any files that you are using will be "locked" and you can't defrag them |
| 17:38.30 | chiper | oh yeah, wouldnt recommend playing wow while you defrag |
| 17:39.05 | Estil | in the past |
| 17:39.07 | xyu | go to wowaceupdater and delete savedvariables in there too. man that helped a lot |
| 17:39.07 | Estil | on Win 9x machine |
| 17:39.14 | Estil | if the hard disk content changed or you're working on it |
| 17:39.15 | xyu | i had saved variables from like AGES ago |
| 17:39.17 | ShenDK | thats a source of lag sometimes. vista defaults to defragging once per week, and if you are in wow when it starts then all hell breaks loose :P |
| 17:39.19 | Estil | the defrag woudl reset and restart lol |
| 17:39.21 | Pkekyo| | hmm, maybe this could be a good excuse to do some homework then :p |
| 17:39.37 | kergoth | don't defrag while you're using the system.. |
| 17:39.43 | xyu | just do it before you sleep |
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| 17:39.46 | kergoth | and if you use the machine a lot, should defrag more than weekly imo |
| 17:39.51 | xyu | it takes a while depending on your used HD space |
| 17:40.02 | xyu | anything over 80gigs of used space will take some time |
| 17:40.04 | Pkekyo| | Estil: I'd prefer that rather than "LOLZ U PHAIL!!!!!111" :p |
| 17:40.12 | Estil | I defrag once like... |
| 17:40.14 | Estil | 2 month |
| 17:40.14 | Estil | or 3 |
| 17:40.23 | Estil | too lazy to wait for 1 tb worth of hard disk space to defrag |
| 17:40.28 | Pkekyo| | I've got about 110GB of used space :p |
| 17:40.42 | chiper | pk: how big is the disk? |
| 17:40.42 | xyu | yeah i'd hit defrag then go to bed ^^ |
| 17:40.51 | Pkekyo| | 110 out of 111 :p |
| 17:40.55 | xyu | wow |
| 17:40.58 | chiper | oh you're fucked |
| 17:40.58 | xyu | that might be your prob too :P |
| 17:41.11 | chiper | I doubt you have enough freespace to do a defrag |
| 17:41.35 | chiper | you need at least 10% free, and it's best to have 30% |
| 17:41.36 | xyu | burn off some of that anime slacker |
| 17:41.55 | Bruners | it doesnt take that much time to defrag |
| 17:41.59 | Estil | oh wow |
| 17:42.01 | chiper | yeah, dump that porn |
| 17:42.10 | Estil | that's crazy Pke |
| 17:42.27 | Amadeo | Your disk slows down if you don't have enough free space, too |
| 17:42.35 | xyu | yep |
| 17:42.37 | Pkekyo| | chiper: on the exact drive I'm defragging? |
| 17:42.41 | xyu | paging is affected isn't it? |
| 17:42.42 | Pkekyo| | also, I don't have any porn :< |
| 17:42.47 | Estil | Pkekyo |
| 17:42.51 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: Want to make some? |
| 17:42.52 | Estil | Windows as whole will go slow |
| 17:42.57 | chiper | pk: yes. to defrag it has to be able to move whole files into empty spaces |
| 17:42.58 | Estil | if you have such small amount of space left |
| 17:43.11 | chiper | if you dont have any empty spaces, it cant move them |
| 17:43.23 | Pkekyo| | Estil: it doesn't :p |
| 17:43.34 | Estil | ;( |
| 17:43.44 | Amadeo | I wonder how long it takes an SDD to defrag :P |
| 17:43.54 | chiper | pk: your windows page file has got to be so constrcted, that's gonna slow down the whole machine |
| 17:44.05 | Pkekyo| | chiper: not noticably |
| 17:44.21 | chiper | how can you tell? it's out of room! |
| 17:44.31 | chiper | I saw a HUGE speed boost when I moved my page file off the boot drive |
| 17:44.53 | Pkekyo| | chiper: because it's not slower than it ever has been :p |
| 17:44.59 | Pkekyo| | how do I move the page file? |
| 17:45.31 | Pkekyo| | think 400GB should be enough for it? |
| 17:45.36 | chiper | right click my computer, choose properties, go to the advanced tap and click performance |
| 17:45.38 | Amadeo | lol |
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| 17:46.05 | chiper | erm, Settings, under performance. |
| 17:46.23 | chiper | then go to the advanced tab on THAT window and click the Change button |
| 17:47.16 | chiper | on the C drive choose no paging file, and then on a different drive either set a size or let windows manage it |
| 17:47.21 | Pkekyo| | so...should I make a new folder for it then? :p |
| 17:47.31 | Pkekyo| | does it just sit around in the root folder? |
| 17:47.40 | chiper | yes, it's an invisible system file |
| 17:47.49 | chiper | pagefile.sys IIRC |
| 17:48.07 | durcyn | you can't move it. |
| 17:48.09 | Pkekyo| | how "invisible" is it? :p |
| 17:48.23 | chiper | on my gaming machine I set it to 1-5GB |
| 17:48.30 | durcyn | it's not invisible, it's just attrib'd +s, but it's locked while the vmm subsystem is running |
| 17:48.30 | Zhinjio | not visible until you turn off "hide system files" |
| 17:48.38 | chiper | pk: well if you have windows set to show system files, it'll show up |
| 17:48.40 | Amadeo | it's better to set it to a min/max size that's the same size for both |
| 17:48.44 | Amadeo | 5GB is too much |
| 17:49.03 | Zhinjio | good guideline is 1x your system's total physical memory |
| 17:49.10 | mitchnull | #api SetBindingMacro |
| 17:49.19 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjionot visible until you turn off "hide system files" did that a long time ago :p |
| 17:49.31 | Zhinjio | if you are a power user: 2x your total system memory |
| 17:50.02 | durcyn | actually, windows default swapping strategy is highly aggressive, so it's more useful to set the swapfile small so it'll be used less |
| 17:50.19 | xyu | power user = |
| 17:50.21 | durcyn | if you've 2-4gb of memory, you really don't want swap to be used much, if at all |
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| 17:50.42 | xyu | how about 1gb? |
| 17:50.48 | xyu | 500mb ok? or should be higher |
| 17:51.05 | mitchnull | how can I modify keybinding to work on OnKeyDown instead of OnKeyUp? |
| 17:51.11 | Pkekyo| | I've got 2GB of memory, methinks :p |
| 17:51.28 | Zhinjio | power user is someone how typically has ... say, more than 4 intensive applications open at once. A dev IDE, a heavy cpu./memory using game, any windows office app, browser, etc etc |
| 17:51.31 | Pkekyo| | I need to get a sidedoor with glass in it so I can tell what the flying fuck I've put in there xD |
| 17:51.43 | durcyn | at 1gb i'd set it higher, since a third of it is going to be eaten by the OS to start with |
| 17:51.46 | durcyn | 1-2gb |
| 17:51.51 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjio: ie using several adobe apps at the same time? |
| 17:52.04 | durcyn | Zhinjio: the problem is, swap goes to disk, and disk is orders of magnitude slower |
| 17:52.05 | Amadeo | My Pagefile is 2560/2560 |
| 17:52.10 | Zhinjio | sure, except say ... adobe type manager. heh |
| 17:52.23 | Arrowmaster | mitchnull: create the keybinding using bindings.xml |
| 17:52.23 | Zhinjio | thus the suggestion of moving it to a dedicated disk, durcyn. |
| 17:52.31 | Zhinjio | that was the first part of the conversation |
| 17:52.37 | durcyn | it's still slow |
| 17:52.49 | durcyn | the goal should be to minimise swapping, not speed it up |
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| 17:53.06 | mitchnull | arrowmaster: hrmp. not nice. wanted to modify SpellBinder :( |
| 17:53.09 | chiper | the only way to mimimize swapping is to get more ram or use less applications |
| 17:53.13 | Zhinjio | yes, I'm aware. but if your physical memory is so low that you're going to be swapping, the goal is to speed it up. |
| 17:53.23 | Amadeo | You're always going to use swap in Windows, that's just how it's gonna be |
| 17:53.33 | chiper | and windows is going to swap no matter how much ram you have |
| 17:53.59 | chiper | any background application is going to be swapped out if it isnt using cpu time |
| 17:54.03 | Pkekyo| | so, I've got this 372GB harddrive with 173GB free space....that'd be where I should put it, eh? |
| 17:54.08 | chiper | that's to maximize available ram |
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| 17:54.29 | chiper | Pkekyo|: that sounds like a good spot, sure. is it on the same bus as the boot drive? it's better if it's on a different bus |
| 17:54.40 | chiper | and only use internal drives |
| 17:55.16 | Pkekyo| | I really should get a satan drive |
| 17:55.20 | Pkekyo| | s-ata* |
| 17:55.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:55.25 | kenlyric | hahaha |
| 17:55.29 | Amadeo | This drive is from Satan! |
| 17:55.35 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: You just made mr. Freud very happy |
| 17:55.37 | xyu | http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php pagefile tutorial, not sure how good it is |
| 17:55.37 | Pkekyo| | ofc it is, so bloody expensive :< |
| 17:55.41 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: whom? |
| 17:55.46 | Pkekyo| | and why? |
| 17:55.49 | kenlyric | sata drives are the same price... |
| 17:55.50 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: Bloody is the key word when referring to the Satan drive |
| 17:56.15 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: weren't when I bought my IDEs :p |
| 17:56.29 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freud |
| 17:56.37 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: was that a decade ago? |
| 17:57.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slips |
| 17:57.07 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: thought he had the title doctor? |
| 17:57.10 | chiper | you dont know who freud is? |
| 17:57.10 | kenlyric | you can probably get IDE drives on clearance these days. |
| 17:57.31 | Zhinjio | all drives are cheap these days. |
| 17:57.45 | Amadeo | Pkekyo| doesn't care about Freud, he cares about battle axe's, beards and bastard swords! |
| 17:57.57 | chiper | you can fit more sata drives on most boards tho. |
| 17:58.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Yes, but dr. med. |
| 17:58.10 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: wasn't a freudian slip, I regulary call them satan disks :p |
| 17:58.12 | Amadeo | er, battle axes :/ |
| 17:58.14 | chiper | I've got 5HDs and a sata burner in my pc. maxed out all my busses |
| 17:58.26 | Pkekyo| | kenlyricyou can probably get IDE drives on clearance these days. <--- not in this country, no |
| 17:58.42 | elusif | i will gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today |
| 17:58.44 | Zhinjio | freudian slips need to involve sex, your mother, or sex with your mother. |
| 17:58.54 | Pkekyo| | chiperyou dont know who freud is? <--- I know who dr. freud is, never seen him refered to as "mr." though |
| 17:59.02 | elusif | a freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother :) |
| 17:59.08 | chiper | ah |
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| 17:59.15 | Pkekyo| | rofl elusif |
| 17:59.17 | kenlyric | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+103530091+1035307796&Configurator=&Subcategory=14&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc= |
| 17:59.24 | kenlyric | $3 price difference |
| 17:59.35 | elusif | :D |
| 17:59.42 | kenlyric | pretty sure SATA isn't a price premium anymore |
| 18:00.02 | NivFreak | SAS is now |
| 18:00.02 | chiper | no, it's definately not |
| 18:00.03 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: up here we are still vikings, satan costs more than IDEs :< |
| 18:00.03 | elusif | did blizz increase the distance you can zoom out from your character? |
| 18:00.15 | Pkekyo| | and I'll have to save up for a year to buy an SSD :p |
| 18:00.20 | NivFreak | elusif: in 2.3 |
| 18:00.21 | NivFreak | iirc |
| 18:00.22 | Amadeo | How's Pkekyo| going to order from Newegg? They won't send a boat out to his Viking ship |
| 18:00.33 | kenlyric | newegg has transporters now |
| 18:00.39 | NivFreak | elusif: or at least, they provided a native interface to change it ;) |
| 18:00.45 | Zhinjio | <--- <3 newegg |
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| 18:00.51 | kenlyric | that's how they can offer free shipping on 30lb cases |
| 18:00.54 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:01.03 | Amadeo | My next case isn't going to be a heavy one |
| 18:01.06 | Amadeo | I'm done with heavy cases! |
| 18:01.15 | kenlyric | I built a mchine with newegg, and then went to i buypower and built the same one for $22 more. |
| 18:01.28 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Build me one now |
| 18:01.33 | kenlyric | and ibuypower gave me speakers, keyboard, mouse, and 3 year warranty. And they put it together for you. |
| 18:02.01 | kenlyric | so, I <3 newegg, but I don't think to build an entire system. |
| 18:02.04 | chiper | ken: where's the fun in that? |
| 18:02.15 | Amadeo | Building it is the best part |
| 18:02.16 | Pkekyo| | 30lb = ?? kg? |
| 18:02.26 | NivFreak | 66? |
| 18:02.28 | kenlyric | a lot |
| 18:02.28 | elusif | NivFreak: nice |
| 18:02.30 | Zhinjio | I only ever bought one machine pre-made, in .... '92. Everything since then I've made myself. |
| 18:02.34 | Pkekyo| | 66? |
| 18:02.47 | NivFreak | I think it's 2.2kg per lb |
| 18:02.48 | NivFreak | right? |
| 18:02.49 | Pkekyo| | please tell me you don't refer to computer chassis' when you say 'cases'? :p |
| 18:02.51 | elusif | the further you can zoom out the better imho |
| 18:02.55 | kenlyric | all of my previous machines have been self-built because I didn't have to replace every bloody fucking part when I did it. |
| 18:02.57 | kenlyric | now I do. |
| 18:03.06 | YourMomsHero | NivFreak: yep |
| 18:03.25 | kenlyric | the only thing I don't have to replace on my computer is the keyboard and mouse. |
| 18:03.30 | chiper | google says 13kb |
| 18:03.33 | chiper | erm, kg |
| 18:03.43 | khangg | NivFreak, it'S 2.2lb per KG |
| 18:03.51 | Pkekyo| | 30lbs = 13kg? O.o |
| 18:03.52 | NivFreak | ah |
| 18:03.54 | NivFreak | backwards |
| 18:03.56 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: yes, that's what "computer case" means. |
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| 18:04.13 | kenlyric | chassis works too |
| 18:04.17 | khangg | Pkekyo|, sounds right |
| 18:04.22 | NivFreak | it's much faster to type case |
| 18:04.23 | NivFreak | :) |
| 18:04.27 | khangg | yepyep |
| 18:04.33 | chiper | heh, we only use the word chassis when referring to servers |
| 18:04.35 | NivFreak | I prefer to further simplify it to "box" |
| 18:04.42 | kenlyric | newegg calls it Computer Cases |
| 18:04.43 | Pkekyo| | thought you were refering to crates as cases...and if it's 66 bloody KGs , that's some highly impressive chassis |
| 18:04.51 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:05.04 | Pkekyo| | mine is 22kgs whilst empty |
| 18:05.08 | Pkekyo| | I want a 66kg one |
| 18:05.22 | Pkekyo| | but can't be arsed, won't get it up the stairs :p |
| 18:05.22 | chiper | actually, I read a mod project log that was probably around 66kg |
| 18:05.25 | Amadeo | I still use a CRT monitor that's 76 lbs |
| 18:05.41 | chiper | thing was half the size of a cray, but it had a shit load of storage in it |
| 18:05.54 | Pkekyo| | I never should've bought a case in solid steel or whateverthefuck this thing is |
| 18:06.07 | kenlyric | http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6754451 |
| 18:06.14 | Zhinjio | AMadeo: I still have one... but its going into my MAME cabinet. I figure thats the best recycling I can do for it. |
| 18:06.24 | kenlyric | and you know, I think I get a better case out of the deal, too. |
| 18:06.32 | Amadeo | Zhinjio: Yeah, I really need to get an LCD...just don't feel like spending tons on one |
| 18:06.53 | kenlyric | and better ram. |
| 18:07.17 | Zhinjio | *nod* ... monitors are getting cheaper too ... stupid cheap. THere's no excuse for using less than a 19" LCD anymore. |
| 18:07.18 | Amadeo | Plus I basically need a whole new PC, and getting some 22-24" LCD with a 1680 or higher resolution is going to kill my fps :P |
| 18:07.45 | kenlyric | just run a lower resolution in game :) |
| 18:07.45 | Pkekyo| | <--- on a 1680*1050 now, it's bloody beautiful |
| 18:07.50 | kenlyric | 1400x900 |
| 18:07.55 | kenlyric | or whichever it is. |
| 18:08.05 | bigzero | <--- on a laptop :-( |
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| 18:08.22 | Pkekyo| | 1680*1050 was the only widescreen resolution I saw when setting my new res |
| 18:08.24 | Zhinjio | 1920x1200 on my main screen. which is 1 of 3 |
| 18:08.30 | wereHamster | 1920x1200... beautiful, yes, but fps low :( |
| 18:08.48 | exor674 | wereHamster: get a better graphics card :D |
| 18:08.57 | wereHamster | 7800GTX |
| 18:08.58 | exor674 | I suggest one that needs its own air conditioner to keep it cool |
| 18:09.00 | Pkekyo| | nah,1440*900 and 1360*768 has been added now |
| 18:09.07 | Zhinjio | 8700 here |
| 18:09.20 | wereHamster | I'm playing at 1280x720 though |
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| 18:09.36 | Zhinjio | and only because the 8800 doesn't support multiple screens |
| 18:09.36 | Pkekyo| | bah, I need a list of my computer's components :p |
| 18:09.57 | kenlyric | wait, what? |
| 18:10.05 | kenlyric | the 8800 gtx? |
| 18:10.09 | Zhinjio | correct |
| 18:10.40 | Zhinjio | it uses a different driver than all the other cards, and it isn't cross compatible. You can't use multiple screens |
| 18:10.48 | kenlyric | that's crazy talk. |
| 18:10.55 | Pkekyo| | what kind of satan drive should I get? large one? small one? |
| 18:11.01 | Pkekyo| | - and what should I put on it? |
| 18:11.16 | kenlyric | SATAN WANTS HORSE PORN |
| 18:11.16 | Zhinjio | I was extraordinarily pissed after finding that out after just having spent big dollars on it. |
| 18:11.25 | Zhinjio | so ... my wife gets the good card on her screen *grin* |
| 18:11.25 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: satan can't have it |
| 18:11.39 | kenlyric | dell sold me a computer with two widescreen monitors and put a card in it with one DVI and one VGA port. |
| 18:11.51 | kenlyric | (for work). |
| 18:11.55 | kenlyric | we were like, TRY AGAIN |
| 18:12.18 | exor674 | guesing they didn't provide a DVIadapter |
| 18:12.23 | kenlyric | they did |
| 18:12.46 | kenlyric | but VGA screen looked nasty. |
| 18:12.48 | Pkekyo| | why does every bloody questgiver that's a goblin give a quest that has something to do with a crashed zeppelin? :p |
| 18:13.01 | Zhinjio | they're blimp fixated. |
| 18:13.02 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 18:13.09 | kenlyric | I don't think it could even do 1680x |
| 18:13.35 | chiper | pk: what about the dieing one in BB that wants a gorilla heart? |
| 18:13.58 | kenlyric | he's dying from zep crash. |
| 18:14.07 | chiper | hah |
| 18:14.11 | Zhinjio | my favorites are all the "digging through poop" quests outland gives you now. Thats some internal blizzard guffaw, right there. |
| 18:14.22 | Pkekyo| | chiper: BB? |
| 18:14.31 | winkiller | any clue if you can make grid adjust itself to raidsize? |
| 18:14.33 | chiper | booty bay |
| 18:14.34 | kenlyric | well, if by all you mean "both" |
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| 18:14.55 | kenlyric | and one of the pooping quests is awesome. |
| 18:15.02 | kenlyric | because you later eat the poop |
| 18:15.06 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 18:15.12 | Zhinjio | the nagrand cherries one |
| 18:15.14 | kenlyric | nagrand cherries grow on NO bush. |
| 18:15.23 | Zhinjio | wait, HFP, Nagrand... I thought there were more. |
| 18:15.32 | Zhinjio | zang? Hmm. |
| 18:15.39 | Zhinjio | I thought there were more. |
| 18:16.03 | kenlyric | I never did that HFP on my alliance priest. Never knew about it. |
| 18:16.23 | Zhinjio | the bog lords one in Zang looks suspiciously like you're rooting through their poop |
| 18:17.00 | Zhinjio | I mean, you're gathering some food thing, right? What do mushrooms eat, anyway? : Shit. |
| 18:17.04 | Zhinjio | I rest my case. |
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| 18:17.35 | Pkekyo| | there's a crashed zep in dustwallow marsh too now |
| 18:17.55 | Zhinjio | there always has been one there, Pkekypo |
| 18:17.58 | Zhinjio | -p |
| 18:18.17 | kenlyric | it was the only reason the alliance had to ever venture that far south in dustwallow. |
| 18:18.21 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 18:18.21 | kenlyric | until onyxia :) |
| 18:18.36 | chiper | I like the new quests theyput at that zep |
| 18:18.46 | chiper | the one to kill slimes is pretty neat |
| 18:18.56 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Kaelten |
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| 18:21.34 | Zhinjio | I'm tired of killing Vehk'nir Dreadhawks. |
| 18:21.43 | Zhinjio | 101 and still no recipe. |
| 18:21.48 | Zhinjio | 101 kills, I mean |
| 18:22.12 | Pkekyo| | does HFP have alot of farming hunter bots? |
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| 18:22.34 | kenlyric | they're all still in winterspring |
| 18:22.38 | Pkekyo| | a couple of hunters that've been killing the same birds here for the last four-five days |
| 18:23.01 | chiper | report em :/ |
| 18:23.16 | kenlyric | botting anything to doesn't drop a mote or is skinnable is just dumb. |
| 18:23.39 | kenlyric | *that doesn't |
| 18:23.45 | Pkekyo| | birdies are skinnable |
| 18:23.51 | chiper | I snitched on one in STV once, long time ago. felt pretty good when the GM let me know I was right |
| 18:24.07 | kenlyric | since when? |
| 18:24.43 | kergoth | birds arent skinnable, at least i've never seen one that is |
| 18:26.06 | Pkekyo| | I just saw some hunter skin it |
| 18:26.13 | kenlyric | which mob? |
| 18:26.28 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cr=6:10;crs=3483:1;crv=0:0 |
| 18:26.35 | kenlyric | skinnable mobs in HFP |
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| 18:29.46 | NivFreak | I had a guy ask me if I was a bot in badlands once |
| 18:29.48 | Pkekyo| | guess I failed at seeing then :p |
| 18:29.53 | NivFreak | and then report me when I said I wasn't |
| 18:30.13 | NivFreak | I guess he was mad that I was wiping out all the little dragon dudes |
| 18:30.14 | Zhinjio | I'm very systematic when I'm farming, so yeah, I've been asked a bunch of times. |
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| 18:33.43 | Amadeo | I was thinking of bringing my Druid over to Balance earlier on, for fun...but looks like there's a serious lack of gear in the game for a pre-58 casting Druid |
| 18:34.25 | Osstia | i'd agree Amadeo |
| 18:34.30 | chiper | heh, leather spell power gear, not to much |
| 18:34.39 | KivinSan | I hated balance pre-tbc. |
| 18:34.39 | Osstia | I am planning on switching around the outlands |
| 18:34.52 | Amadeo | The worst part about WoW is that there's zero gear progression when leveling |
| 18:35.09 | Amadeo | You're locked into a spec, and you have to scour the world and instance to gear up |
| 18:35.20 | Pkekyo| | approx how long would a defrag last on a 120GB drive? |
| 18:35.29 | KivinSan | it kinda goes stagnant from ~30-55, makes a huge leap, then goes stagnant again ~65 |
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| 18:35.53 | chiper | pk: if the drive is full? could take hours |
| 18:35.55 | Zariel | is there a link to upcoming combat log changes? |
| 18:35.56 | Pkekyo| | gah, I'm bugged...can't loot anything :< |
| 18:36.08 | Shirik | stuck kneeling down? |
| 18:36.09 | Pkekyo| | Zariel: planning to clean it up a bit first |
| 18:36.26 | Pkekyo| | no, the loot icon appears as though I'm out of range from the corpse |
| 18:36.27 | chiper | wrong person :) |
| 18:36.57 | Osstia | Pkekyo|: log out and back in |
| 18:37.06 | Osstia | the mob should snap to where its corpse really is |
| 18:37.07 | Pkekyo| | but that takes months :< |
| 18:37.26 | chiper | pk: the speed of a defrag depends entirely on the amount of data on the drive, and the percentage of free space it has to work with |
| 18:37.30 | Pkekyo| | just gonna hs to thrallmar, log out and defrag :p |
| 18:37.32 | KivinSan | gotta love the bugs that have been around since beta and have never got any spotlight |
| 18:37.54 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 18:37.57 | exor674 | thats why I always |
| 18:38.10 | exor674 | if I think a mob is bugging out -- go stand where my client thinks it is before I die |
| 18:38.16 | exor674 | that way, it dies there and I can loot it :D |
| 18:38.29 | exor674 | er, before IT dies |
| 18:38.40 | Pkekyo| | but how would I know? |
| 18:38.46 | KivinSan | I try to get the mob to near the same spot on the server and my client, so that everything is synced up after it dies |
| 18:39.24 | chiper | know if it's bugged? if it's hitting you but isnt near you, it's bugged :P |
| 18:39.40 | KivinSan | or if it's hitting you but the sprite is just standing there doing nothing |
| 18:39.44 | Pkekyo| | well, it wasn't...I'm a frostmage...nothing gets near me |
| 18:39.56 | Pkekyo| | also, meant where it really is |
| 18:40.14 | chiper | it is wherever the server thinks it is |
| 18:40.19 | KivinSan | if the sprite is stuck immovable, the actual mob (which you can't see) still retains it's exact behavior |
| 18:40.29 | exor674 | or, for a caster |
| 18:40.34 | KivinSan | just imagine what it'd do if you could see it. it'd run towards you, or cast, or whatever |
| 18:40.35 | Pkekyo| | chiper: and how would I know where that is? >.< |
| 18:40.38 | exor674 | "That target is not in front of you" |
| 18:40.41 | exor674 | when you are facint iy |
| 18:41.46 | exor674 | that's my main cue -- if I can't cast spells on a mob I'm staring at :D |
| 18:42.04 | Pkekyo| | nah, I were facing it |
| 18:42.06 | KivinSan | the most common behavior i see is, the sprite stays at 100% hp and stands still, but i start taking damage |
| 18:42.18 | KivinSan | and i can see combat text for me damaging it, even though it has 100% hp |
| 18:42.19 | Pkekyo| | and frostbolts seemed to hit exactly where the sprite was |
| 18:42.35 | Pkekyo| | speaking of defragging...should I shut down all apps? |
| 18:42.51 | KivinSan | the frostbolt effect is programmed to go where ever your client thinks the sprite is, not where the server knows it is |
| 18:43.00 | exor674 | shut down all apps, and go eat dinner, see a movie, sleep, have breakfast then come back probably :D |
| 18:43.14 | Pkekyo| | how to watch a movie without my comp? :p |
| 18:43.31 | Pkekyo| | I hate the idea of shutting down all apps :< |
| 18:43.34 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: those mythical places with very bright lihts |
| 18:43.38 | exor674 | and film |
| 18:43.41 | exor674 | and seats |
| 18:43.53 | KivinSan | my kara RL defrags in the middle of raids o.O |
| 18:43.57 | Pkekyo| | can't afford that |
| 18:44.08 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: sneak in? |
| 18:44.12 | exor674 | <_< |
| 18:44.14 | Shirik | KivinSan: That's how much confidence he has in you guys |
| 18:44.18 | Pkekyo| | exor674: only shitty movies playing anyways :p |
| 18:44.39 | KivinSan | It doesn't seem to lag out his game or anything, but I wonder how effective it is with a game running |
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| 18:45.04 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: then I dunno, run around town screaming "I must hae WoW I must have WoW" |
| 18:45.13 | KivinSan | I remember golden Win 95 defrag. The moment anything happened on the hard drive, it would start over from 0% |
| 18:45.14 | exor674 | as soon as you convince the cops you *aren't* insane |
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| 18:45.18 | exor674 | your defrag will we done |
| 18:45.27 | chiper | read a book! |
| 18:45.44 | KivinSan | Just get a defrag scheduler and set it up to go off whenever you know you wont be at the puter |
| 18:45.46 | Pkekyo| | exor674: can't be arsed to go all the way into town :p |
| 18:46.19 | exor674 | ooops, why did I just drop my reagents on the ground... |
| 18:46.33 | Pkekyo| | wtf... "Sothink SWF Decompiler" <--- any idea why the flying fuck I have this/what it's for? :p |
| 18:46.33 | exor674 | now I got to find a reagent vendor |
| 18:46.43 | Pkekyo| | ~fail exor674 |
| 18:46.44 | purl | exor674: Fail. |
| 18:46.44 | exor674 | decompiling flash files |
| 18:46.53 | Osstia | you wanted to look at the code behind a flash animation? |
| 18:47.05 | Pkekyo| | nope |
| 18:47.11 | chiper | I wish WOW let you drop stuff on the ground like Lineage did. make nice little piles of junk |
| 18:47.12 | Osstia | then you are dumb, final answer |
| 18:47.16 | Pkekyo| | hms, a game that's 11GB :p |
| 18:47.25 | exor674 | is it WoW? :P |
| 18:47.30 | Pkekyo| | I don't agree, but guess it's a valid answer xD |
| 18:47.34 | Osstia | haha |
| 18:47.36 | Pkekyo| | exor674: splinter cell double agent |
| 18:47.37 | chiper | and then some mob comes up and takes said junk, so when somebody kills the mob they get it |
| 18:47.55 | Osstia | I loved looting corpses in PvP in UO |
| 18:48.01 | Osstia | kill someone, and take their shit |
| 18:48.02 | KivinSan | gotta love the random green shit that drops with +57 spirit |
| 18:48.11 | Pkekyo| | KivinSan: why? |
| 18:48.14 | Osstia | sounds like arcane dust to me |
| 18:48.22 | KivinSan | blizzard's way of supporting the enchanting trade? |
| 18:48.24 | Pkekyo| | I love 2h weapons with loads of defense on them :p |
| 18:48.26 | chiper | there were creation skills that actually involved feeding stuff to slimes and then killing them to get the item back |
| 18:49.04 | Pkekyo| | according to "add/remove programs", WoW takes up just about 98MB |
| 18:49.13 | chiper | heh, that's not right |
| 18:49.17 | KivinSan | lol |
| 18:49.41 | Osstia | on this machine mine is 7.8 GB |
| 18:49.42 | KivinSan | my wow folder is 10,025,021,440 bytes |
| 18:49.43 | Zhinjio | those are just the files the installer knew about originally |
| 18:49.48 | exor674 | mines 10GB |
| 18:49.54 | Pkekyo| | mine is 9,27GB |
| 18:50.09 | exor674 | mine's still got ythe 2.3.2 wowtest folder |
| 18:50.22 | KivinSan | i've got the 2.3.0 test realm client |
| 18:50.28 | KivinSan | guess i could junk that :P |
| 18:50.35 | exor674 | nooo! |
| 18:50.39 | exor674 | posterity! |
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| 18:51.33 | Pkekyo| | removing arseloads of games removed 2% of total fragmentation and increased file fragmentation by 2% O.o |
| 18:52.00 | KivinSan | removing stuff creates empty space, empty space is fragmentation |
| 18:52.05 | Osstia | ^^ |
| 18:52.11 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 18:52.26 | Pkekyo| | I have loads of games I never finish, for some reason :/ |
| 18:52.44 | KivinSan | but seriously, there's no reason to wait for a defrag to complete. just get a scheduler |
| 18:52.52 | KivinSan | mine goes once a week |
| 18:53.12 | Pkekyo| | get a scheduler? |
| 18:53.15 | KivinSan | yeah |
| 18:53.24 | Pkekyo| | thing is, I can't know when I'm not using my comp :< |
| 18:53.37 | KivinSan | There isn't at least one time a week that you can be fairly certainly not at the computer? |
| 18:53.42 | KivinSan | Like 4:30 AM on a thursday or something? |
| 18:53.50 | Pkekyo| | I tend to stay up late :p |
| 18:53.59 | Pkekyo| | I've been waking up at about 4am lately |
| 18:54.00 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: set it to coencide with WoW downtime |
| 18:54.03 | KivinSan | then reschedule it on a week by week basis |
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| 18:54.26 | Pkekyo| | also...schedule...howto? |
| 18:54.34 | KivinSan | download.com, type "Defrag" in the search box |
| 18:54.36 | chiper | Windows Scheduler |
| 18:54.36 | KivinSan | let me see what i use |
| 18:54.40 | KivinSan | oh, that works |
| 18:55.09 | chiper | Accessories > System Tools > Scheduled Tasks |
| 18:55.38 | chiper | also, be sure to run the Disk Cleanup tool |
| 18:55.45 | chiper | that'll flush your caches and temp files |
| 18:56.25 | CIA-4 | 03pb_ee1 * r58180 10LZProfiler/ (LZProfiler.lua LZProfiler.toc Locale.lua): |
| 18:56.25 | CIA-4 | LZProfiler: |
| 18:56.25 | CIA-4 | - Completely new release. |
| 18:56.25 | CIA-4 | - Adding warning message that will be removed soon. |
| 18:56.50 | Pkekyo| | not sure if I like the sound of that, chiper :/ |
| 18:57.08 | Osstia | why? |
| 18:57.09 | chiper | it's just crap that gets left behind |
| 18:57.20 | Osstia | if you want to clean up your disk and defrag its smart |
| 18:57.28 | Osstia | if you are going to do it, do it right |
| 18:57.30 | Pkekyo| | Osstia: it sounds scary! :p |
| 18:57.33 | CIA-4 | 03pb_ee1 * r58181 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.toc: LZProfiler: Updating web links. |
| 18:57.52 | chiper | haha |
| 18:58.07 | Pkekyo| | ~flee |
| 18:58.07 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 18:58.09 | Cheads | =) |
| 18:58.16 | KivinSan | Hmm |
| 18:58.21 | KivinSan | I keep looking up and finding my hunter aspect shut off |
| 18:58.26 | KivinSan | Can't figure out at what point i'm losing it |
| 18:58.41 | Pkekyo| | hmm...24gb free space...should work better now, no? |
| 18:58.46 | chiper | hawk aspect, or cheetah? |
| 18:58.51 | KivinSan | viper |
| 18:58.52 | Osstia | probably yes |
| 18:58.55 | chiper | oh |
| 18:59.17 | chiper | maybe something is removing it when you get to 100% |
| 18:59.21 | KivinSan | dunno |
| 18:59.57 | chiper | I know smartbuff removes cheetah when I get struck by a mob |
| 19:00.05 | KivinSan | i don't have any mods like that |
| 19:00.25 | KivinSan | nothing hunter specific, either, except for stuff of my own making |
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| 19:04.14 | Fisker- | i came all over hydross |
| 19:04.39 | Osstia | ew? |
| 19:04.49 | KivinSan | erm. |
| 19:04.54 | KivinSan | congrats? |
| 19:06.00 | Pkekyo| | don't mind Fisker-, he's just made that way /shrug |
| 19:06.14 | Osstia | KivinSan: are you US or EU? |
| 19:06.31 | Osstia | just out of curiosity, no other real reason for asking |
| 19:06.34 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.23 | Fisker- | it's not a fisker-thing :( |
| 19:07.37 | Pkekyo| | ofc not, not at all |
| 19:07.57 | Fisker- | i finally got my guild to go hydross |
| 19:08.01 | Fisker- | and we got him in 3rd try :P |
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| 19:08.47 | Pkekyo| | gz |
| 19:08.53 | Osstia | ofc = of course? |
| 19:09.00 | Pkekyo| | ofc |
| 19:09.01 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 19:09.01 | nadas | hmm, anyone know if sapphiron was fixed with this patch? :) |
| 19:09.29 | Pkekyo| | hmm...my bioshock folder is 5.57GB, but I can't find the bloody game files anywhere! :p |
| 19:11.14 | bigzero | anyone from ace dev team on? |
| 19:12.38 | Josh_Borke | bigzero: what's up? |
| 19:12.44 | bigzero | AceTab is throwing an error http://ace.pastey.net/80491 |
| 19:12.58 | bigzero | trying to complete random text |
| 19:13.19 | Josh_Borke | oh, that's hC's domain, i don't touch tab with a 30 foot pole |
| 19:13.25 | Josh_Borke | i'd rather fix AceComm... |
| 19:13.26 | bigzero | lol |
| 19:13.39 | Josh_Borke | and that's saying something |
| 19:13.41 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 19:13.51 | Fisker- | a priest bought a Wildfury Greatstaff for 4 void crystals |
| 19:13.52 | KivinSan | will AceComm ever be bug-free? LO |
| 19:13.54 | KivinSan | :P* |
| 19:13.55 | Pkekyo| | hmm....there's this game I've got that've got no uninst.exe (or similar), and does not show up in "add/remove programs"...any idea on how to -properly- uninstall the game? |
| 19:14.06 | exor674 | KivinSan: yes, when Blizzard *lets* us bot |
| 19:14.10 | kenlyric | is it virus.exe? |
| 19:14.24 | KivinSan | bot...? |
| 19:14.24 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, just remove it |
| 19:14.28 | exor674 | and even provides the bot programs |
| 19:14.29 | bigzero | delete |
| 19:14.39 | chiper | yeah, delete the folder |
| 19:14.41 | bigzero | who cares if a couple registry entries get leftover |
| 19:14.48 | Pkekyo| | <--- |
| 19:14.52 | bigzero | or a few files in system folders |
| 19:14.53 | Osstia | why? |
| 19:14.58 | bigzero | run CCleaner |
| 19:15.01 | Pkekyo| | my registry's totally fuckedup as it is, don't need it to get proper fucked |
| 19:15.19 | bigzero | it doesn't get any more fucked by having garbage entries in it |
| 19:15.20 | Pkekyo| | I did...a piece of shit trial version that found like 2k errors and would only fix three of them |
| 19:15.25 | bigzero | just more cluttered |
| 19:15.27 | NeoTron | Fisker-: what is weird bout that, except the extortion-level price of 4 crystals? |
| 19:15.40 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, CCleaner is freeware |
| 19:15.43 | bigzero | there's no trial |
| 19:15.58 | Pkekyo| | wtf did I use then? :p |
| 19:16.38 | Pkekyo| | thought it was CCleaner |
| 19:16.44 | Fisker- | NeoTron he offered :D |
| 19:16.54 | Pkekyo| | and that piece of shit trial thing that I -deleted- still keeps throwing me popups |
| 19:17.39 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: why the flying fuck did a priest buy that? |
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| 19:17.48 | Osstia | afk food |
| 19:18.05 | KivinSan | I've seen a mage wearing a braxxis' staff of slumber :P |
| 19:18.09 | ShenDK | Anyone know of an in-game addon where you can debug your addons by seeing the values of your frame content, test functions etc? |
| 19:18.10 | KivinSan | around 66-67 |
| 19:18.45 | KivinSan | ShenDK: used /dump or /echo? |
| 19:19.36 | Pkekyo| | methinks me deleting lots of stuff made windoze die :p |
| 19:19.56 | KivinSan | Just delete the system32 folder and reboot, it'll do the rest :P |
| 19:19.59 | ShenDK | no, didn't know these commands exist, gonna search for documentation on those |
| 19:20.06 | ShenDK | KivinSan, thanks |
| 19:20.12 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, go download CCleaner and run it...then use it's startup list thing and delete all the junk from it |
| 19:20.13 | KivinSan | ShenDK: They're associated with the ace and rock frameworks |
| 19:20.31 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: it's a fun thing. we have 3 non-druids getting that staff |
| 19:20.36 | KivinSan | ShenDK: They dump out the text representation of whatever Lua code follows them |
| 19:20.52 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: allready did, but the C&C 3 uninstall is laggin me so bad I don't dare to start another app :p |
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| 19:21.22 | wereHamster | Pkekyo|, still fighting with fragmentation? |
| 19:21.33 | Pkekyo| | wth, I've got C&C1 here :p |
| 19:21.49 | Pkekyo| | wereHamster: just started fighting with it...been deleting shit I don't use up until now |
| 19:21.50 | ShenDK | KivinSan: I am modding an seemngly abandoned addon, and I have not yet Ace'd it, but will do as son as I get my functionality included to satisfy my current needs. |
| 19:21.57 | bigzero | Pkekyo|... format c: |
| 19:22.00 | Pkekyo| | having a -really- hard time uninstalling C&C 3 |
| 19:22.07 | Ironhand | quick question - how to turn off MT target display in oRA2? |
| 19:22.12 | KivinSan | ShenDK: As long as you have *any* addon with ace loaded, /dump should work |
| 19:22.16 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: can't, wouldn't be able to install a new OS :p |
| 19:22.29 | bigzero | why not? |
| 19:22.30 | Pkekyo| | brother sat his fat arse on my win xp CD and broke it in half >.< |
| 19:22.38 | Pkekyo| | I need to care more for my CDs :p |
| 19:22.38 | bigzero | get linux |
| 19:22.43 | Pkekyo| | got linux |
| 19:22.49 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed with the bloody hassle |
| 19:22.49 | bigzero | then you're golden |
| 19:22.52 | wereHamster | ShenDK, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Make_it_Ace%27d |
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| 19:22.58 | ShenDK | KivinSan: thanks |
| 19:22.58 | Pkekyo| | I might be shiny, but not golde |
| 19:22.59 | Pkekyo| | n |
| 19:23.07 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, lrn2download windows |
| 19:23.32 | ShenDK | wereHamster: thanks :) |
| 19:23.38 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: not enough diskspace xD |
| 19:23.41 | bigzero | lol |
| 19:23.48 | Pkekyo| | hm...I really shouldn't shut down the rundll32 process, should I? :p |
| 19:23.55 | bigzero | nope |
| 19:24.01 | wereHamster | ShenDK, IOW, check carefully whether ace'ing really is the best choice |
| 19:24.15 | ShenDK | also found several references to an addon called myDebug which does that in a waterfall, gonna try it out |
| 19:24.23 | Pkekyo| | 30% total fragmented, 60% files fragmented now :p |
| 19:24.32 | bigzero | ouch |
| 19:24.41 | Pkekyo| | ouch what? |
| 19:24.48 | Zhinjio | thats huge |
| 19:25.02 | bigzero | that's a lot of fragmentation |
| 19:25.04 | Pkekyo| | it's less than I had one hour ago! :p |
| 19:25.10 | Zhinjio | I get twitchy if my drive has more than 10% fragmentation |
| 19:25.22 | wereHamster | < Pkekyo|> can't be arsed with the bloody hassle - get another distro, a more userfriendly one |
| 19:25.23 | Pkekyo| | 4% less total and 6% less files, if memory serves |
| 19:25.41 | Pkekyo| | wereHamster: haven't tried many that are as userfriendly as (k)ubuntu tbh |
| 19:25.43 | bigzero | how big of a hard drive? |
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| 19:26.04 | Pkekyo| | 120GB (111 real GB) |
| 19:26.20 | chiper | how much free space now? |
| 19:26.23 | ShenDK | wereHamster: I know, and it isn't soemthing i actively am working on, but as the addon got a 100k big .xml file with frames, layers etc, the benefit from Ace'ing may be minimal |
| 19:26.37 | Pkekyo| | 42,6GB now |
| 19:26.52 | bigzero | then...what's your problem? |
| 19:27.06 | Pkekyo| | shutting down apps and defragging :p |
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| 19:27.28 | chiper | suggest you restart first too |
| 19:27.33 | chiper | to clear the page file |
| 19:27.45 | Pkekyo| | speaking of pagefile, how was it I should move it again? >.< |
| 19:27.51 | bigzero | you should be able to defrag, also clear your startup list of all the junk |
| 19:28.02 | Pkekyo| | clean startup list? |
| 19:28.13 | Pkekyo| | I fail at remembering the commands to run this stuff |
| 19:28.16 | bigzero | not completely clear it...just the junk |
| 19:28.19 | chiper | My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance, Settings > Advanced > Change |
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| 19:28.55 | ShenDK | KivinSan & wereHamster: looking forward to Ace3 as I understand that it's better for advanced configuration frames |
| 19:28.57 | chiper | set C: to no page file, set your other drive to 1-2x physical ram |
| 19:29.00 | Pkekyo| | my page file is 2GB, should it be bigger/smaller? |
| 19:29.08 | Pkekyo| | that'd be 1x my physical ram |
| 19:29.22 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, 2Gb is more than enough |
| 19:29.39 | bigzero | especially with 2GB of ram |
| 19:29.43 | chiper | you'll have to restart for that change to take effect |
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| 19:29.51 | Pkekyo| | windoze recommends 3070MB |
| 19:29.54 | [T]Althalus | Is there a negative side to having a bigger page file? :o I think mine is 4gb with 1gb of RAM >_> |
| 19:30.00 | bigzero | Windoze is gay |
| 19:30.17 | bigzero | [T]Althalus, wasted space |
| 19:30.22 | chiper | 3070 is probably a good value |
| 19:30.35 | NeoTron | linux can run fine w/o swap. Windows complains you're low on memory without swap despite 1 GB free physical memory |
| 19:30.38 | NeoTron | I don't quite get it |
| 19:31.07 | bigzero | also for pagefile, it's better if you set it to a static size. reduces paging file fragmentation |
| 19:31.23 | Fisker- | is hydross bugged? |
| 19:31.25 | bigzero | but don't do 3GB.... |
| 19:31.28 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: ie 2048/2048? |
| 19:31.33 | chiper | windows trys to maintain a certain % of free ram. if it gets over that percentage and cant do anything to clear up more, it freaks out |
| 19:31.34 | bigzero | yeah |
| 19:31.45 | NeoTron | chiper: which is retarded |
| 19:31.54 | NeoTron | complain when you're almost out of ram, not when half my ram is available |
| 19:32.03 | NeoTron | and don't swap crap out when there's plenty of ram either pls |
| 19:32.14 | bigzero | NeoTron, you might be able to change that threshold |
| 19:32.15 | wereHamster | having free ram is a waste of.. money |
| 19:32.23 | NeoTron | Solaris used to swap crap out to use the physical memory for disk cache |
| 19:32.36 | wereHamster | after all.. you buy ram so you can use it.. everything of it |
| 19:32.55 | kenlyric | just turn off swap :) |
| 19:33.03 | NeoTron | linux did that too - remember coming back to work in th emorning and having to wait for a minute while linux swapped everything out that it had swapped out dring the night |
| 19:33.04 | kenlyric | if you run out of memory, buy more memory. |
| 19:33.09 | Fisker- | 1/10 20:28:54.398 The Lurker Below hits Kartagg for 11621. (crushing) |
| 19:33.15 | Fisker- | 1/10 20:28:54.883 The Lurker Below hits Kartagg for 10715. (crushing) |
| 19:33.16 | NeoTron | kenlyric: it complains long before it runs out (repeatedly) |
| 19:33.16 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 19:33.29 | bigzero | get more def? |
| 19:33.34 | NeoTron | Fisker-: parry |
| 19:33.43 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: l2shieldblock? |
| 19:33.51 | bigzero | l2p :-) |
| 19:34.32 | Fisker- | doubtful |
| 19:34.32 | wereHamster | l2 |
| 19:34.32 | wereHamster | l |
| 19:34.32 | Fisker- | we lost 3 tanks to that |
| 19:34.32 | Pkekyo| | then they all fail at shield block :p |
| 19:34.32 | Fisker- | and we're on kael'thas at the moment |
| 19:34.32 | Fisker- | did not |
| 19:34.32 | bigzero | Fisker-, never had _that_ much of a problem with it |
| 19:34.44 | NeoTron | being on kael'thas doesn't mean much |
| 19:34.44 | Fisker- | it just happened |
| 19:34.48 | Fisker- | omg lurker deep breathes moar |
| 19:35.02 | Pkekyo| | so....what I should do now is...reboot my system, not open any apps and then defrag? |
| 19:35.03 | shieldb | Fisker-, I think someone (hunter pets, shadowfiends, melee) was causing parries there - lurker doesn't (as far as I know) have a half second swing time |
| 19:35.04 | Fisker- | and leo, hydross and morogrim(with the same tank) to 20% |
| 19:35.11 | chiper | pk: yes |
| 19:35.12 | NeoTron | it's just double crushing with a parry induced short timer |
| 19:35.17 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, or...go buy new comp |
| 19:35.18 | chiper | pk: did you run the cleanup tool? |
| 19:35.25 | Fisker- | ah |
| 19:35.30 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: can't saving up to go to london :< |
| 19:35.32 | Pkekyo| | chiper: no : |
| 19:35.33 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 19:35.36 | shieldb | like a back to back crushing happens |
| 19:35.37 | Fisker- | the moar you know |
| 19:35.41 | bigzero | comp >> london :-) |
| 19:35.43 | Fisker- | didn't even know parry did that for mobs |
| 19:35.54 | chiper | he doesnt need a new comp, he just needs to clean up this one |
| 19:35.59 | shieldb | a back to back crushing from a mob that isn't dual wielding shouldn't happen unless your tank has really bad luck |
| 19:36.11 | bigzero | chiper, new comp is always a good solution imo |
| 19:36.25 | NeoTron | lurker hit our t6 tank for 8299 dmg |
| 19:36.32 | NeoTron | we've cleared BT/hyjal. ;-) |
| 19:36.43 | shieldb | though you will see parries from melee on fights where the boss has a random secondary target ability - any hits that land while the boss is spinning around are subject to it |
| 19:36.46 | kenlyric | new computer is a good solution when you can no longer upgrade any part on it. |
| 19:37.01 | shieldb | and due to server lag that's how you get fun stuff like parried backstabs |
| 19:37.08 | shieldb | not that you should be bringing dagger rogues, anyways |
| 19:37.09 | kenlyric | the computer I bought in 1999 has to finally be replaced. |
| 19:37.22 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: can't sign off on the london trip, sadly...nor do I want to :< |
| 19:37.43 | Pkekyo| | also, getting a new one is out of the question, as I did a full upgrade less than a year ago |
| 19:38.24 | kenlyric | granted, no single part of the 1999 still exists, But it's technically the same computer since I never replaced more than a couple tings in it :) |
| 19:38.52 | bigzero | my comp had RDRAM....i got screwed so bad |
| 19:38.57 | Fisker- | i see both our tanks parried an attack |
| 19:39.00 | Fisker- | so that would do it_ |
| 19:39.01 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:39.10 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:39.14 | kenlyric | bigzero: i'm so sorry |
| 19:39.15 | NeoTron | wait no |
| 19:39.16 | Fisker- | :O |
| 19:39.19 | NeoTron | lurker parries |
| 19:39.21 | NeoTron | not the tank |
| 19:39.26 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:39.29 | Fisker- | that's what i meant |
| 19:39.38 | NeoTron | yeah that does reduce the swing timer |
| 19:40.02 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: tell them to get some expertise rating |
| 19:40.45 | Pkekyo| | CCleaner is a bloody dream to remove/uninstall apps with<3 |
| 19:42.08 | NeoTron | I hate crap uninstallers taht leave shit sitting around |
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| 19:42.22 | shieldb | Fisker-, the only thing that really helps with that is more stam/armor so you can live through the burst damage when it does end up happening |
| 19:42.31 | shieldb | unless you can stack enough expertise to stop parries completely |
| 19:43.59 | Pkekyo| | ouh, CCleaner has settings for overwriting harddrives completely :D |
| 19:44.01 | NeoTron | or L2Druid or pally |
| 19:44.05 | shieldb | (Demo shout was up, right?) |
| 19:44.18 | NeoTron | easier to avoid crushings as a pally (geared right with holy shield) or absorb them as a druid (lolarmor) |
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| 19:46.38 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, you mean like 0 fill when deleating files? |
| 19:47.00 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: I mean like overwriting the drive 35 times so data can't be restored from it :p |
| 19:47.06 | charon | Fisker-: try this: use a feral MT, put devotion and imp auras, melee shaman with GoA and warrior for shout in his group |
| 19:47.12 | bigzero | hmmm, don't remember seeing that |
| 19:47.26 | charon | Fisker-: and don't forget the hunter shot with 5% miss |
| 19:47.46 | Pkekyo| | well, it doesn't say specificly for the drive, but for files.... you could just boot with another OS from another drive and delete every bloody file on the drive though |
| 19:48.09 | charon | Fisker-: if that puts your druid above 30k armor, 20k HP and 55% avoidance, it will be a walk in the park |
| 19:48.10 | bigzero | guess so |
| 19:48.23 | charon | Fisker-: if he has moroes+badge for trinketwall, all the better |
| 19:48.29 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: good to have if the MPAA/RIAA or whateve rshould burst through the door :p |
| 19:49.37 | bigzero | lol...like you'll have enough time to 0 fill a hdd 35 times |
| 19:49.38 | kenlyric | as if they need hard drive evidence. |
| 19:50.07 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: if I pull out my gun I will :p |
| 19:50.14 | kenlyric | no |
| 19:50.29 | kenlyric | actually you have very little time to do that with a bullet in your forehead. |
| 19:50.48 | bigzero | aim your gun at the hdd before you die |
| 19:50.49 | Pkekyo| | are the MPAA/RIAA authorized to use lethal force? :p |
| 19:51.10 | kenlyric | the police they send are. |
| 19:51.11 | bigzero | MPAA doesn't go arresting people |
| 19:51.23 | kenlyric | assuming they're serving a warrant for your computers. |
| 19:51.23 | bigzero | they just report you for commiting a federal crime |
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| 19:51.36 | kenlyric | yeah, it might be FBI agents. |
| 19:51.46 | kenlyric | and if we've learned anything from GTA games, FBI agents will fuck your day up. |
| 19:51.58 | Pkekyo| | the FBI have no jurisdiction (spellingwtf?) here :p |
| 19:52.08 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, move to Russia...problem solved |
| 19:52.12 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: that's never really stopped us before. |
| 19:52.14 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: I was fine until the bloody army showed up |
| 19:52.21 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: do you want to end up in a secret prison in kazakstan? |
| 19:52.24 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: valid point...yank bastards :p |
| 19:52.30 | pb_ee1 | Hey hey |
| 19:52.36 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: isn't that the CIA though? |
| 19:52.37 | Pkekyo| | hai pb_ee1 |
| 19:53.16 | dJe781 | Does anyone remember what Prat module happens to pop a chat bubble next to unit frame when someone talks ? Or is it a Pitbull Module ? :( |
| 19:53.26 | kenlyric | and, the RIAA proved they don't need hard drive evidence anyway in their most recent victory. |
| 19:53.36 | kenlyric | usage logs were enough. |
| 19:53.41 | NeoTron | our druid tank is now looking at ways to lower mitigation for more threat for some situations |
| 19:53.47 | kenlyric | prat_pitbull or pitbull_prat |
| 19:53.57 | kenlyric | it's one of those, like that. |
| 19:54.04 | kergoth | the riaa needs to be shut down :( |
| 19:54.15 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: who/what provided usage logs? |
| 19:54.21 | Pkekyo| | indeed, they've gone fucking mental |
| 19:54.22 | dJe781 | tx :] |
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| 19:54.48 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: I dunno. All I know is they didn't have the hard drive and the jury didn't care. |
| 19:54.50 | wereHamster | kergoth, riaa, unlike bittorren, has a centralized structure, so it should be fairly easy to shut it down :P |
| 19:55.04 | kergoth | indeed |
| 19:55.08 | kenlyric | the RIAA is smart by never pressing criminal charges. |
| 19:55.16 | wereHamster | .. unless, they distribute themselves |
| 19:55.23 | kenlyric | you only have to be 51% guilty in civil court. |
| 19:55.49 | kenlyric | in a criminal case you'd probably need a hard drive. And chris hansen |
| 19:55.56 | Pkekyo| | wereHamster: they do, fake downloads etc...not directly though |
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| 19:56.31 | Pkekyo| | not to mention establishing their own torrent trackers that distributes spyware :p |
| 19:57.47 | exor674 | . o O ( uTorrent, RIAA version ) |
| 19:57.51 | exor674 | now with 1000% more spyware |
| 19:58.00 | Pkekyo| | I love being able to run my comp without any antivirus software or such and not get a single piece of malware on it :) |
| 19:58.00 | Pkekyo| | specially when comparing with my brother's comp -with- antivirus software active that gets infected every other day :p |
| 19:58.10 | Pkekyo| | exor674: trackers, not clients ;) |
| 19:58.17 | [T]Althalus | utorrent has spyware? :o |
| 19:58.25 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, ping |
| 19:58.40 | kenlyric | the only real issue with fighting the RIAA's stupidity in court is that the people who fight against them are the ones who are actually doing it. |
| 19:58.40 | Pkekyo| | µtorrent does not have spyware >.< |
| 19:58.45 | kenlyric | what we need is an innocent person. |
| 19:59.12 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: they're filing lawsuits against dead people and infants, how many movies/songs you think they've downloaded? :p |
| 19:59.19 | wereHamster | I'm innocent!! take me! |
| 19:59.29 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: clerical error? |
| 19:59.30 | Pkekyo| | wereHamster: I call bullshit |
| 19:59.49 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, why do you have (miu) on your keyboard? |
| 20:00.00 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: what they actually do, is grab a list of all US residents and throw darts at them from a mile away :p |
| 20:00.00 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, ping, or Antiarc |
| 20:00.04 | Pkekyo| | isn't it "mu"? |
| 20:00.08 | Pkekyo| | either way, I don't :p |
| 20:00.10 | kenlyric | sounds about right |
| 20:00.19 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: of course the TSA took a 5yo kid in for questioning because his name was similar to a "suspected terrorist" on the no fly list |
| 20:00.22 | kenlyric | actually, they just target colleges. |
| 20:00.25 | kenlyric | college is easy pickings |
| 20:00.26 | NeoTron | and his mom wasn't even allowed to hold him |
| 20:00.29 | Pkekyo| | TSA? |
| 20:00.35 | NeoTron | because he was a national security risk |
| 20:00.44 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: granny at college? :p |
| 20:00.45 | kenlyric | college kids don't want hassle, can get money from parents. |
| 20:00.51 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 20:00.52 | NeoTron | Transportation Security Agency.. airport security |
| 20:00.57 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: ok, the granny thing is 1 out of 10,000 |
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| 20:01.08 | kenlyric | and yeah, grannies steal music all the time. |
| 20:01.17 | Pkekyo| | about "bin laden" (us government?) targeted the RIAA/MPAA for one of their terrorist acts :p |
| 20:01.21 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Yo |
| 20:01.23 | bigzero | lua> a = { ["b"] = 1 }; getglobal("a.b") |
| 20:01.23 | lua_bot | bigzero: |
| 20:01.28 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.28 | Xinhuan | found another acecomm bug |
| 20:01.30 | Xinhuan | pm |
| 20:01.33 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: no, they steal toiletpaper at walmart, there's a difference :p |
| 20:01.36 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 20:01.41 | kenlyric | some of the filesharing programs simply lie to their users. |
| 20:01.46 | Antiarc | I don't have time to go code diving, but hit me up |
| 20:01.48 | KivinSan | bigzero: getglobal("a").b |
| 20:01.57 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you should just rewrite it |
| 20:02.32 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: howso? |
| 20:02.47 | bigzero | KivinSan, problem is I have a string like "a.b.c.g". I have a loop to get the value of g though |
| 20:02.55 | bigzero | KivinSan, so it's all good |
| 20:02.58 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: they strongly imply that purchasing their product is a license to download. |
| 20:03.10 | kenlyric | though, if you dig deep enough you find out that's not true. |
| 20:03.21 | kenlyric | but what kind of granny is going to dig that deep? |
| 20:03.26 | kenlyric | she's like "finally, Sinatra!" |
| 20:03.35 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: who the flying fuck purchases p2p clients? |
| 20:03.43 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: an amazing number of people. |
| 20:04.14 | Pkekyo| | then, an amazing number of people needs to get shot. in the face. with nukes, preferably.... whilst doing this, we should also include the people that play madden |
| 20:06.40 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: the secret: never share. |
| 20:07.02 | Pkekyo| | never share what? |
| 20:07.08 | kenlyric | files |
| 20:07.11 | kenlyric | only download. |
| 20:07.43 | kenlyric | the RIAA and MPAA only go after people who share. |
| 20:07.50 | kenlyric | (well, so far) |
| 20:08.21 | Pkekyo| | well, they can't bloody get to me, so idc...even though I do not share :) |
| 20:08.55 | Pkekyo| | here you pretty much won't even be noticed if you're not the original releaser of the pirateware |
| 20:09.31 | Pkekyo| | it've happened ONCE that some guy got nailed...he leeched a new movie that he'd ripped off some website (good qual etc though) on his DC++ hub... |
| 20:10.00 | Pkekyo| | well, Jon *something* got towed when he made a gui for code that could rip DVDs...wasn't found guilty though |
| 20:10.34 | NeoTron | on that note I recommend buying songs you like, DRM free, from amazon.com |
| 20:11.11 | kenlyric | amazon has songs I like? |
| 20:11.17 | Pkekyo| | I pretty much only buy original CDs :) |
| 20:11.17 | Pkekyo| | - or ripped music given to me by friends (which is currently legal here) |
| 20:11.23 | NeoTron | kenlyric: that I can't answer |
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| 20:11.42 | NeoTron | but it seems most music publishers want to stop the music stronghold itunes have and go drm free because of it |
| 20:11.54 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: often buying cd's gives you crap :P |
| 20:11.54 | Pkekyo| | it's a nice trend :) |
| 20:12.08 | kenlyric | I don't get why amazon can do drm free stuff on the same things itunes can't. |
| 20:12.14 | NeoTron | meaning you buy a 17.95 CD for 2 good songs and 10 bad ones |
| 20:12.27 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: then I wouldn't buy the CD :) |
| 20:12.30 | kenlyric | NeoTron: itunes has DRM because of the music publishers, not the other way around. |
| 20:12.33 | Pkekyo| | I only buy CDs I -really- want |
| 20:12.40 | NeoTron | kenlyric: because the sonys and universals of the world don't like when one company is essentially controlling all online distributed music |
| 20:13.03 | xyu | as long as it's not theirs |
| 20:13.07 | kenlyric | NeoTron: it still seems like underhanded business dealings. |
| 20:13.10 | NeoTron | I am aware of that. however to gain control back or at least move from total control by one company they need to drop DRM |
| 20:13.14 | NeoTron | because amazon doesn't do DRM |
| 20:13.16 | kenlyric | they should let itunes put the same albums in drm free format |
| 20:13.21 | chiper | I've started using Amazon's mp3 service |
| 20:13.22 | NeoTron | and neither do other music publishers |
| 20:13.23 | kenlyric | neither does itunes plus |
| 20:13.31 | chiper | I'm buying a lot more music since that went into place |
| 20:13.38 | NeoTron | yeah but itunes plus is still apple/itunes |
| 20:13.44 | kenlyric | but drm free |
| 20:13.44 | Pkekyo| | itunes is a lboody piece of shit |
| 20:13.54 | NeoTron | that's not the point though |
| 20:13.56 | chiper | ken: it's still in AAC frmat tho |
| 20:13.58 | kenlyric | that's my point |
| 20:14.08 | kenlyric | it's deceptive to make one store require DRM and another not. |
| 20:14.14 | NeoTron | nah |
| 20:14.16 | NeoTron | it's a game |
| 20:14.27 | NeoTron | they have not "seen the light" per se |
| 20:14.38 | kenlyric | inc lawsuit from apple. |
| 20:14.43 | NeoTron | just trying to find a road around the itunes wall |
| 20:14.53 | NeoTron | I am sure the record companies are covered... |
| 20:14.57 | NeoTron | with contracts |
| 20:15.04 | kenlyric | NeoTron: I think putting them up in mp3 format is enough of a road around the wall. |
| 20:15.14 | chiper | Amazon's downloader has a feature to auto-add content to your itunes too. love that |
| 20:15.50 | NeoTron | I bought a few songs for my daughter, who got an mp3 player ("ipod" even though it's not an ipod but alas) from amazon |
| 20:16.01 | NeoTron | ended up paying $0 for it for some reason. can't figure out what the promotion was |
| 20:16.22 | NeoTron | (disclaimer: I work at Amazon, although not with digital) |
| 20:16.29 | Pkekyo| | ipod is also a bloody piece of shit, whilst we're on the subject :p |
| 20:16.43 | chiper | I'd much rather have MP3s then AAC files, largely just because my car stereo doesnt play AAC |
| 20:16.48 | NeoTron | it's clean |
| 20:16.58 | chiper | I love my ipod |
| 20:17.03 | chiper | and I really want an ipod touch |
| 20:17.06 | NeoTron | I don't mind ipods |
| 20:17.12 | exor674 | I like iPods haha |
| 20:17.15 | NeoTron | but you do pay for the design |
| 20:17.17 | kenlyric | chiper: i'd only need mp3s for playing in gta3 :) |
| 20:17.20 | exor674 | I really love my shuffle aha |
| 20:17.32 | NeoTron | and they do lack features (have in the past) that might be useful such as audio recording and fm tuner |
| 20:17.32 | kenlyric | what size does amazon do? |
| 20:17.33 | exor674 | I left it playing and it was still playing like 26 hours later |
| 20:17.34 | kenlyric | 256k? |
| 20:17.36 | chiper | the touch is going to become an awesome tool next month when they release the SDK |
| 20:17.51 | NeoTron | kenlyric: from what I've heard there's a weird mix of various encodings |
| 20:18.02 | NeoTron | some vbr, some cbr.. but around that level of quality |
| 20:18.08 | chiper | ken: most of what I've downloaded was vbr |
| 20:18.12 | kenlyric | NeoTron: features which make the items heavier and chew up battery life. it's a conscious decision to not have those. |
| 20:18.38 | kenlyric | I used to have an mp3 player with a radio and never used the radio :) |
| 20:18.42 | chiper | neo: the ipod can record... |
| 20:18.51 | kenlyric | when the shuffle came out I was hooked. |
| 20:18.57 | chiper | you just have to buy the input accesory |
| 20:18.58 | kenlyric | I prefer the old shuffle though. |
| 20:19.01 | kenlyric | fucking dock. |
| 20:19.05 | chiper | ken: I do too |
| 20:19.07 | NeoTron | chiper: I've seen third party things |
| 20:19.16 | chiper | I miss being able to charge my shuffle and listen at the same time |
| 20:19.19 | Pkekyo| | anyone know if it's not good for you to drink alot of water?: p |
| 20:19.21 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 20:19.28 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|: too much water can kill you |
| 20:19.36 | chiper | pk: uhh, yeah, there is such a thing as water poisoning |
| 20:19.36 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: how much? |
| 20:19.38 | NeoTron | and it did kill a woman trying to win a Wii |
| 20:19.53 | Pkekyo| | I just figured out I drink about 5-6l of water every day :/ |
| 20:19.54 | chiper | but you gotta drink a lot of water, like more than 2 gallons in a sitting |
| 20:20.01 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication |
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| 20:20.06 | exor674 | Pkekyo|: drink water till yo die |
| 20:20.09 | chiper | dude, you're supposed to drink 5-6 CUPS a day |
| 20:20.10 | exor674 | then come back and tell us? |
| 20:20.15 | chiper | not litres |
| 20:20.24 | Pkekyo| | cups? |
| 20:20.40 | chiper | damnit, fucking conversions |
| 20:20.48 | NeoTron | just make sure to keep electrolytes in balance and you should be fine |
| 20:20.59 | Pkekyo| | how do I do that? |
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| 20:21.01 | NeoTron | such as eating on a piece of salt :P |
| 20:21.08 | exor674 | 5 liters is like 21 cups |
| 20:21.10 | Pkekyo| | I should've bloody paid attention in science class :p |
| 20:21.28 | Pkekyo| | I eat bread with loads of salt in it O.o |
| 20:21.31 | Pkekyo| | does that count? |
| 20:21.38 | Pkekyo| | exor674: what size cup? :p |
| 20:21.58 | chiper | 1 liter = 4.2 cups |
| 20:22.18 | chiper | a cup is a standard unit of measurement, 8 ounces |
| 20:22.29 | kenlyric | ummmmm |
| 20:22.29 | Pkekyo| | 25 cups then O.o |
| 20:22.30 | NeoTron | I don't think 5-6l of water in a day is particularily bad |
| 20:22.37 | NeoTron | it's a lot for sure |
| 20:22.51 | kenlyric | food also contains water. |
| 20:23.03 | kenlyric | so you don't need to drink it all... |
| 20:23.12 | chiper | pk: the convention I grew up with was 8-10 cups a day |
| 20:23.18 | chiper | so 2-3 liters |
| 20:23.30 | Pkekyo| | of fluids in general, or just water? |
| 20:23.38 | chiper | just water |
| 20:23.54 | Pkekyo| | hms |
| 20:24.04 | chiper | so it'd be more of soda or juice, tho you really shouldnt drink that much soda either |
| 20:24.06 | Pkekyo| | and if you drink nothing but water? |
| 20:24.10 | Xinhuan | [1/11 04:02:31] <bigzero> KivinSan, problem is I have a string like "a.b.c.g". I have a loop to get the value of g though |
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| 20:24.15 | Xinhuan | should probably just loadstring it |
| 20:24.22 | Pkekyo| | I rarely drink anything but water nowadays :/ |
| 20:24.25 | Pkekyo| | dunno why |
| 20:24.35 | Xinhuan | generate the string [[getglobal("a").b.c.g]] |
| 20:24.44 | Xinhuan | or something |
| 20:24.57 | chiper | I like to have something other than water at mealtimes, but other than that I drink just water |
| 20:25.43 | Pkekyo| | so...I'm awake about 18hrs/day.... 5/18 = 0.27... I drink 0.27l every hours, approximately |
| 20:25.53 | Pkekyo| | that doesn't sound much |
| 20:26.00 | Pkekyo| | prolly drink more saliva than that lol :p |
| 20:26.09 | chiper | thats about a cup an hour |
| 20:26.38 | chiper | that's not really excessive |
| 20:27.18 | Pkekyo| | been tormented by headaches lately...drink water to prevent it... it works, but can't drink anything else >.< |
| 20:27.34 | chiper | you can get headaches from too much water |
| 20:27.42 | Osstia | yup |
| 20:27.47 | chiper | and from too little |
| 20:28.11 | chiper | do you drink coffee, or have you recently? |
| 20:28.38 | chiper | I used to get nasty caffeine headaches |
| 20:28.41 | Pkekyo| | not really...when I realized I was drinking alot of water (money started dissapearing fast) I stopped drinking anything but water :) |
| 20:29.42 | Osstia | i am weird, caffiene has little to no effect on me |
| 20:30.02 | Pkekyo| | same here |
| 20:30.07 | chiper | oss: lots of people say that, until they cut themselves off |
| 20:30.11 | NeoTron | it doesn't really make me untired, nor do i get tired if I don't use it |
| 20:30.19 | Pkekyo| | I have to drink a bloody pool worth of the stuff to slightly wake up |
| 20:30.25 | NeoTron | however it doesn't take long for the caffeine headaches to start |
| 20:30.38 | Osstia | chiper: I don't drink a lot of it. and can go weeks to months without it with no change |
| 20:30.42 | Pkekyo| | hmm...got a weird error from my IRC client...anyone know what "USER Not enough parameters" means? |
| 20:30.59 | chiper | neo: that's why it doesnt affect you, you've become dependant on it |
| 20:31.16 | chiper | pk: it means your irc client didnt send enough stuff with the username |
| 20:31.26 | chiper | pk: make sure you have the realname field filled in |
| 20:31.26 | kenlyric | it's failry easy to kick a caffeine habit. |
| 20:31.42 | kenlyric | the capillaries return to normal size fairly quickly. |
| 20:32.04 | chiper | I used to drink 2-4 liters of coke a day. went through a hell of a withdrawl when I stopped |
| 20:32.08 | NeoTron | chiper: it never had any noticeable effect |
| 20:32.13 | genetik- | i quit caffeine cold turkey almost 7 years ago now and haven't had any since |
| 20:32.18 | NeoTron | not now, not long before dependance |
| 20:32.36 | NeoTron | kenlyric: takes a week or two but can be quite painful |
| 20:32.38 | Pkekyo| | chiper: what does the realname have to do with anything? |
| 20:32.45 | kenlyric | but it's not like meth. |
| 20:32.51 | NeoTron | for sure |
| 20:32.51 | Pkekyo| | I just stopped drinking coke one day, and never felt anything bad 'bout it |
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| 20:33.15 | NeoTron | it's a headache but one that won't go away for an extended period of time |
| 20:33.16 | chiper | pk: it's one of the values the irc client sends in the USER command. some clients arent smart enough to fill it in if the user leaves it blank |
| 20:33.42 | chiper | pk: if the field is empty, the server thinks it got a malformed username command |
| 20:34.02 | Pkekyo| | well, I just fixed it :p |
| 20:34.41 | chiper | the standard convention is to just put a period in the space. that tells the server it's meant to be blank |
| 20:34.44 | Pkekyo| | ok, time to defrag, shutting down my tower...for the first time in ages :/ |
| 20:34.56 | Pkekyo| | just put a bunch of jibberish in it |
| 20:35.03 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 20:35.22 | Pkekyo|defrag | don't worry children, I'm still with you :p |
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| 20:36.47 | Pkekyo|defrag | first time I've gotten operaIRC to work on this comp :) great change |
| 20:37.48 | Pkekyo|defrag | share lunch! |
| 20:37.58 | chiper | no! not yours! |
| 20:38.48 | Pkekyo|defrag | SHARE |
| 20:38.49 | Pkekyo|defrag | :< |
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| 20:39.54 | Pkekyo|defrag | not having a mouse sucks though :< |
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| 20:40.19 | Pkekyo|defrag | my tower is down to 28% total fragmentation adn 57% files now :) |
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| 20:40.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:42.03 | Pkekyo|defrag | that's not bad, is it? |
| 20:44.15 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58182 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 20:44.15 | CIA-4 | Threat-1.0: |
| 20:44.15 | CIA-4 | - Slight tweak to PublishThreat() to work around an AceComm bug. Pet threat should now send whenever pet threat changes, not just when player threat changes. \o/ |
| 20:45.30 | Killmore | Antiarc: thats mean, crazy threat with hunter pet should be fixed ?! |
| 20:45.48 | Antiarc | Killmore: Hopefully. We'll see. |
| 20:46.25 | Killmore | I will ask my guildies to update omen for tonight raid, I will report you if I see something |
| 20:46.27 | NeoTron | heh I used to have a script that logged me into WoW at a certain time so by th time I got home I was past the 1hr login queues |
| 20:46.33 | Antiarc | Killmore: Thanks! |
| 20:47.21 | kenlyric | botting is bad. |
| 20:49.45 | Chompers | Antiarc: have you had any time to look at seperating hunter pets from warriors? |
| 20:49.51 | Chompers | or is it just not possible |
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| 20:50.40 | Antiarc | UnitClass("pet") is some player class, generally |
| 20:50.44 | Antiarc | warrior, mage, etc |
| 20:51.55 | NeoTron | kenlyric: if you're commenting to me, it's not botting. it's just "logging into the character select screen" :P |
| 20:52.17 | kenlyric | NeoTron: wicked botter |
| 20:53.38 | NeoTron | ironically though |
| 20:53.44 | Pkekyo|defrag | 20mins, and defragging is still only at 3% >.< |
| 20:53.45 | NeoTron | it only worked if you were actually logged in |
| 20:55.09 | bigzero | [14:24] <Xinhuan> should probably just loadstring it <--- but then i would get errors if one of the tables on the way is nil... I just do this http://ace.pastey.net/80508 |
| 20:55.11 | Pkekyo|defrag | is playing through a remote desktop considered botting? :p |
| 20:55.22 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|defrag: no |
| 20:55.27 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|defrag: defrag when you sleep |
| 20:55.33 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r58183 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 20:55.33 | CIA-4 | Threat-1.0: |
| 20:55.33 | CIA-4 | - Fix LEFT_COMBAT for pets. I'm uh, not sure how it ever worked. But it works now! |
| 20:55.38 | Pkekyo|defrag | Josh_Borke: why? |
| 20:55.46 | Xinhuan | bigzero, you can pcall() a loadstring :) |
| 20:55.53 | wereHamster | bigzero, pcall(loadstring(...)) |
| 20:56.00 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: it never worked really, after a big raid you had shadowfiends on the top of global aggro :P |
| 20:56.10 | bigzero | Xinhuan, touche |
| 20:56.13 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Well, it worked for me when I was trying to debug it! :P |
| 20:56.24 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, i found that silly bug.. well sorta found it anyway, as a byproduct of another acecomm issue |
| 20:56.25 | wereHamster | this is how I parse incomming serialized lua objects :) |
| 20:56.33 | kenlyric | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/works-on-my-machine-starburst.png |
| 20:56.50 | nevcairiel | i think i reported that some time ago to you, but since it wasnt a big issue i never cared to check it again :P |
| 20:56.55 | Antiarc | You can all thank Xinhuan for your pets no going crazy now :D |
| 20:56.57 | Ellipsis | it never worked, Antiarc, just admit it :P |
| 20:57.05 | Ellipsis | also: <3 for fixing |
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| 20:57.16 | Pkekyo|defrag | Josh_Borke: whyeswhyeswhyes? :p |
| 20:57.25 | Ellipsis | now I can spec felguard safely! |
| 20:57.28 | Xinhuan | antiarc had a codepath where 2 events are mutually exclusive and each codepath had if-then part |
| 20:57.36 | bigzero | Xinhuan, though another problem is that the path to the variable does not have to start from a global...it starts from whatever obj points to |
| 20:57.42 | Xinhuan | the 2nd if-then used a variable from the first if-then, which never ran! |
| 20:57.44 | Pkekyo|defrag | hmm...I should buy Starship Troopers...good movie :) |
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| 20:57.50 | Ellipsis | hah, fail |
| 20:57.59 | Pkekyo|defrag | though the main character is the slickest motherfucker ever to show his slick face on TV |
| 20:58.09 | Xinhuan | so pet threat wouldn't reset properly on sync data |
| 20:58.09 | Chompers | holy shit Antiarc, did you just fix the whole pets staying on threat lists thing :O |
| 20:58.19 | Antiarc | I think so, Chompers. |
| 20:58.27 | Chompers | oh my |
| 20:58.28 | Xinhuan | there's another problem with acecomm |
| 20:58.33 | Antiarc | Half my problem, half AceComm |
| 20:58.33 | bigzero | lol |
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| 20:58.46 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i know what it is, its "AceComm" |
| 20:58.48 | Xinhuan | if you sent in a list of things to be serialized, and some of those values passed in to :SendCommMessage() |
| 20:58.50 | Xinhuan | are nils |
| 20:58.58 | Xinhuan | then the whole damn thing fails to get serialized properly |
| 20:59.04 | Pkekyo|defrag | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.15 | Xinhuan | which causes pet classes not to send sync data for threat-1.0 |
| 20:59.19 | Osstia | Pkekyo|defrag: calm yourself son |
| 20:59.20 | piotrb | uhm .. I'm not sure when this started .. but prety recently .. I started getting disconnected when I open my character screen ... any ideas what mod may be trying to do something weird then? hehe .. its either that or I play process of elimination with 150 mods .. |
| 20:59.20 | Antiarc | :SendCommMessage("GROUP", "COMMAND", nil, "foo", "bar") -> FAIL |
| 20:59.26 | Pkekyo|defrag | ~usb2 |
| 20:59.27 | nevcairiel | the {1, 2, 3,4,nil,5} bug? |
| 20:59.30 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:59.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | Osstia: what movie that from? |
| 20:59.31 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|defrag: so that you don't care how long it takes to defrag since you'll be asleep? |
| 20:59.37 | Pkekyo|defrag | ~wiki usb2 |
| 20:59.42 | Osstia | none |
| 20:59.46 | Xinhuan | because acecomm will fail on the message[] table for the islist test |
| 20:59.47 | Osstia | just calm yourself |
| 20:59.52 | bigzero | Pkekyo|defrag, try WoW Players Anonymous |
| 20:59.54 | Pkekyo|defrag | 480mb/s...hms |
| 20:59.55 | Xinhuan | and serialize it as a t or T table |
| 21:00.08 | Xinhuan | instead of the u table that the deserializer expects |
| 21:00.09 | Pkekyo|defrag | Josh_Borke: shame I don't sleep much...I'd be awake again before 50% |
| 21:00.17 | Pkekyo|defrag | ~wiki usb1 |
| 21:00.22 | Pkekyo|defrag | ~wiki usb |
| 21:00.29 | bigzero | Pkekyo|defrag, use google god damn it |
| 21:00.37 | Antiarc | ~jfgi |
| 21:00.38 | purl | http://www.google.com/search?q=jfgi |
| 21:01.01 | Pkekyo|defrag | should provide a direct link to jfgi tbh |
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| 21:01.17 | *** join/#wowace Thorgard (n=grunt@c-98-200-178-99.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 21:01.39 | Antiarc | It's extra special irony as a google link |
| 21:01.39 | Pkekyo|defrag | wanted to see if jfgi.com was the same thing... "WELCOME TO THE JEWISH FEDERATION OF GREATER INDIANAPOLIS!" O.o |
| 21:01.48 | Pkekyo|defrag | Antiarc: it is? |
| 21:01.58 | Pkekyo|defrag | oh, yes it is |
| 21:02.11 | Chompers | i never knew about jfgi, thank you |
| 21:02.35 | Pkekyo|defrag | jewish federation or just fucking google it? :p |
| 21:02.38 | xyu | the URL kind of defeats the purpose though |
| 21:02.54 | Pkekyo|defrag | true xyu |
| 21:03.20 | Pkekyo|defrag | dictionaries shouldn't perform sensorship on cursewords >.< |
| 21:04.24 | Pkekyo|defrag | anyone think usb 3.0 will be a noticable upgrade? |
| 21:04.48 | Kerafyrm | well 420 to 4.2 i think will be pretty noticeable |
| 21:04.50 | xyu | It better be if it's a whole new number higher! |
| 21:05.22 | Pkekyo|defrag | isn't it 480 --> 600? |
| 21:05.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | lol xyu |
| 21:05.33 | Kerafyrm | no |
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| 21:06.13 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: ping |
| 21:06.20 | Pkekyo|defrag | theoretical maxspeed of 600MB/s |
| 21:06.24 | Pkekyo|defrag | incorrect? |
| 21:06.28 | Kerafyrm | Incorrect |
| 21:06.36 | Kerafyrm | Dubbed SuperSpeed USB, the third major incarnation of the serial bus standard is set to deliver data transfer speeds of around 4.7Gb/s - ten times today's 480Mb/s limit. |
| 21:06.42 | Kerafyrm | From: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/09/ces_usb_3_revealed/ |
| 21:06.58 | NeoTron | SUPAR SPEEDZ! |
| 21:07.00 | NeoTron | whee |
| 21:07.03 | NeoTron | zoom zoom |
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| 21:07.14 | NeoTron | wait for the USB4 standard ... MEGA speed |
| 21:07.14 | xyu | INTERNET SUPER HIGHWAY! |
| 21:07.17 | chiper | piotrb: no mods should be loaded at the character screen |
| 21:07.25 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, found another bug |
| 21:07.26 | Xinhuan | in acecomm |
| 21:07.38 | Pkekyo|defrag | some twat on my regular website sucks at translating then...sec, gonna check his source :p |
| 21:07.49 | piotrb | chiper: I don't mean the character screen .. I mean the character sheet =) |
| 21:08.00 | chiper | oh |
| 21:08.04 | Kerafyrm | its on /. yesterdays news. |
| 21:08.59 | Pkekyo|defrag | Kerafyrm: sure you're not confusing bits and bytes now? |
| 21:09.13 | Kerafyrm | thats copy and pasted from the article. |
| 21:09.23 | Kerafyrm | you can look at it yourself, i gave you the source url |
| 21:09.29 | Pkekyo|defrag | 4.8Gbit/s = 600 MB/s according to the source article |
| 21:09.45 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure 4.7 G is approximately 10 times 470 M regardless of bits/bytes |
| 21:10.35 | exor674 | probably closer to 11 |
| 21:10.40 | Pkekyo|defrag | anyone here know how to calculate what 4.8Gbit is in bytes? :p |
| 21:10.41 | exor674 | 10.24 times I think exactly |
| 21:10.49 | Pkekyo|defrag | zomg 9% |
| 21:10.52 | chiper | so, this plug looks like it's meant to be backwards compatible with USB2? |
| 21:10.55 | exor674 | 4.8*1024*1024*1024 |
| 21:10.58 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (i=Kirkburn@c-67-173-162-146.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 21:11.01 | KivinSan | 1 byte = 8 bits |
| 21:11.22 | Pkekyo|defrag | so 4.8*1024^3? |
| 21:11.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | any way to make purl do the maths? :p |
| 21:11.39 | Josh_Borke | lua> 4.8*1024*1024*1024 |
| 21:11.39 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 5153960755.2 |
| 21:11.40 | Kerafyrm | nono |
| 21:11.50 | Josh_Borke | but why is that useful? |
| 21:11.50 | Kerafyrm | 4,800,000 / 8 |
| 21:11.58 | Kerafyrm | = 600,000 |
| 21:12.03 | Kerafyrm | My brain isn't working today, it is 600MB |
| 21:12.07 | Josh_Borke | lua> 4.8*1024*1024*1024 / 8 |
| 21:12.08 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 644245094.4 |
| 21:12.14 | chiper | a MB is 1024KB |
| 21:12.14 | *** join/#wowace ccwork (n=ccwork@204.153.88.3) |
| 21:12.17 | chiper | not 1000 |
| 21:12.27 | Kerafyrm | Just divide by 8 |
| 21:12.30 | exor674 | well, if you want to be technical.. |
| 21:12.33 | ccwork | any other mod like cowtip/tinytip ? |
| 21:12.33 | Kerafyrm | 4,800,000 / 8 |
| 21:12.35 | Kerafyrm | = 600,000 |
| 21:12.36 | exor674 | a MiB is 1024, a MB is 1000 :P |
| 21:12.56 | chiper | what's the i? |
| 21:13.06 | Pkekyo|defrag | Kerafyrm: all the numbers confuses me :< were me or you right? or were we both wrong? :p |
| 21:13.12 | exor674 | mibibyte I think |
| 21:13.14 | Kerafyrm | you were right |
| 21:13.15 | Antiarc | :OnDisable() unregisters all registered events, right? |
| 21:13.16 | Pkekyo|defrag | micro? |
| 21:13.26 | Pkekyo|defrag | µB? |
| 21:13.29 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 21:13.30 | kenlyric | my roommate failed at this math. |
| 21:13.32 | exor674 | mebi |
| 21:13.41 | kenlyric | he paid extra fora 108Mbps wireless router. |
| 21:13.43 | Pkekyo|defrag | woop! woop! 11% :p |
| 21:13.48 | kenlyric | I'm like "the internet doesn't go any higher than 6 |
| 21:13.52 | exor674 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte |
| 21:14.13 | chiper | ken: is the router also his switch? |
| 21:14.38 | kenlyric | it's cable |
| 21:14.45 | chiper | or does he have any wired devices on the network |
| 21:14.52 | kenlyric | yes |
| 21:14.53 | Pkekyo|defrag | FUCKSAKE |
| 21:14.53 | Pkekyo|defrag | some cunt loaded a high-frequency audiofile into my playlist (and I'm over-sensitive to high-pitch sounds) |
| 21:15.01 | kenlyric | the wired is 100, i think. |
| 21:15.03 | chiper | then the 108 is worth it |
| 21:15.10 | kenlyric | chiper: why? |
| 21:15.13 | kenlyric | the internet is only 6 |
| 21:15.32 | exor674 | Pkekyo|defrag: don't allow other people to fuck with your playlist! |
| 21:15.35 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 21:15.36 | kenlyric | we don't move files between computers over the network. |
| 21:15.37 | chiper | ken: because other devices on the network are faster |
| 21:15.52 | Pkekyo|defrag | exor674: I don't... |
| 21:16.01 | Pkekyo|defrag | security failed somehow |
| 21:16.03 | Pkekyo|defrag | fucksake |
| 21:16.08 | Pkekyo|defrag | my head's shredded |
| 21:16.09 | Kerafyrm | mind you full duplex means 100 wirespeed is 200, because theres two pipes one in one out |
| 21:16.14 | kenlyric | each computer just connects to the internet, so at most I'm taking up 6 and he's taking up 6 and my laptop is taking up 6. |
| 21:16.28 | chiper | you dont use your network for anything besides internet access? |
| 21:16.30 | piotrb | aaargh .. its Fizzle .. but why is Fizzle making me disconnect .. |
| 21:16.30 | exor674 | the internet is 6 *total* |
| 21:16.34 | chiper | not printing, nothing? |
| 21:16.39 | kenlyric | nope |
| 21:16.50 | chiper | *shrug* perhaps he wanted it for the future |
| 21:16.56 | kenlyric | no. |
| 21:17.01 | kenlyric | he wanted it because 108 was bigger than 54 |
| 21:17.14 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 21:17.18 | exor674 | he got one of the 802.11n ones? |
| 21:17.18 | kenlyric | he's like that :) |
| 21:17.18 | chiper | right, and if you were actually using your network, that would matter |
| 21:17.52 | kenlyric | I don't get why speeds are so slow between my laptop and my computer upstairs though. |
| 21:18.20 | kenlyric | even at 11Mbps it should be twice as fast as an internet download. |
| 21:18.38 | Pkekyo|defrag | so the 802.11n fancypants stuff is worthless?: p |
| 21:18.40 | Pkekyo|defrag | :p |
| 21:18.57 | exor674 | would be if you do alot of file transfers or the like |
| 21:19.01 | exor674 | within your network |
| 21:19.04 | exor674 | but in that case, I vote |
| 21:19.08 | exor674 | "Go wired" |
| 21:19.20 | chiper | pk: it is if you're only using your network for internet access |
| 21:19.33 | chiper | me personally, I stream video files off my fileserver to my laptop |
| 21:19.40 | chiper | so faster is always better |
| 21:19.42 | Pkekyo|defrag | for some reason, I'm unable to set up a proper network here...computers running on several randomass domains, usergroups and such...bloody impossible |
| 21:19.57 | Pkekyo|defrag | I would use it for network access (no zeh intarwebs) if I only could connect my laptop to it |
| 21:20.05 | exor674 | I would imagine full-duplex 100MBit ethernet would be faster then oer the air crap |
| 21:20.07 | kenlyric | it takes me 30 minutes to download a 360 MB file from one computer to the other. |
| 21:20.18 | chiper | exo: yeah |
| 21:20.19 | Kerafyrm | ... |
| 21:20.20 | Pkekyo|defrag | exor674: got both wired and wifi here |
| 21:20.20 | NivFreak | kenlyric: over what media? |
| 21:20.23 | kenlyric | where each should be getting 11Mbps |
| 21:20.30 | NivFreak | oh, 802.11b? |
| 21:20.35 | chiper | even the 108 n wireless will never run at the same speed as 100bt |
| 21:20.39 | kenlyric | whichever the old one is |
| 21:20.45 | NivFreak | you'll never see more than 6mbit |
| 21:20.45 | Pkekyo|defrag | wifi because I can't be arsed to run cables through every bloody wall here |
| 21:20.46 | Kerafyrm | I <3 my gigabit local network.. |
| 21:20.49 | NivFreak | ala 600K/s |
| 21:20.51 | kenlyric | NivFreak: right |
| 21:20.53 | NivFreak | on an 802.11b network |
| 21:21.04 | kenlyric | bet inside my network I should see 11mbit |
| 21:21.07 | NivFreak | and usually, you'll see more like 200-250K/s |
| 21:21.11 | kenlyric | from one computer to the other. |
| 21:21.13 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:21.29 | NivFreak | let me put it this way |
| 21:21.39 | kenlyric | so I might actually see improvement if I get g cards for both? |
| 21:21.42 | NivFreak | a cable internet connection is faster than 802.11b's actual speed |
| 21:21.51 | NivFreak | yes |
| 21:21.54 | chiper | ken: that's 11mbit theoretical. wireless never fully uses it's available bandwidth, not unless your source and base are right next to each other |
| 21:21.54 | NivFreak | if your AP is G |
| 21:22.09 | kenlyric | it's 108... n or something. |
| 21:22.15 | NivFreak | it's ano 11mbit full duplex |
| 21:22.20 | NivFreak | which is why you'll never see 11mbit |
| 21:22.20 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:22.35 | NivFreak | kenlyric: 802.11n is a draft standard |
| 21:22.38 | NivFreak | but pretty common |
| 21:22.48 | NivFreak | get a couple of n cards |
| 21:22.49 | chiper | ken: the base may be n, but are your computers? |
| 21:22.51 | NivFreak | you'll be happy enough |
| 21:22.55 | kenlyric | I might just get n cards for both. |
| 21:22.58 | NivFreak | I still plug into gige for file transfers a bit |
| 21:23.03 | kenlyric | chiper: no, the computers are b. |
| 21:23.08 | NivFreak | yea, get n cards |
| 21:23.10 | chiper | well there's your problem |
| 21:23.13 | NivFreak | and disable compat mode on your AP |
| 21:23.22 | NivFreak | or it will negotiate speeds down |
| 21:23.40 | Pkekyo|defrag | hmm...some tosser is saying I should buy more ram to speed up defragging...is he right? |
| 21:23.50 | chiper | pk: not really |
| 21:24.12 | chiper | pk: for some defrag tools, maybe, but in the long run your 2GB is more than enough |
| 21:24.16 | Pkekyo|defrag | so it's all just bollocks then? |
| 21:24.19 | NeoTron | the one benefit of being the one that takes DKP bids is that I can order the DKP bid taking to best suit myself (i.e get people to burn DKP I want less, if more than one desired item dropped from the boss) |
| 21:24.28 | chiper | you've got two gigs, man! |
| 21:24.29 | NeoTron | the small benefit I get from doing all that shit I guess |
| 21:24.46 | Pkekyo|defrag | 4gb, counting the pagefile :p |
| 21:24.54 | NivFreak | NeoTron: haha |
| 21:25.11 | NeoTron | Pkekyo|defrag: I'm just defragfging my half a TB harddrive on my 2 GB computer.. |
| 21:25.28 | NeoTron | then again my class tier items is priest/lock/pally |
| 21:25.38 | *** join/#wowace elusif (i=elusif@89.124.144.58) |
| 21:25.42 | Pkekyo|defrag | NeoTron: sloooooow? :p |
| 21:25.44 | NeoTron | and historically, and currently, priests/locks/pallies make up about 40-50% of the raid.. |
| 21:25.44 | elusif | anyone using auctioneer? |
| 21:25.51 | CIA-4 | 03simlan * r58184 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): |
| 21:25.51 | CIA-4 | ActionCombat: |
| 21:25.51 | CIA-4 | - Changed buff/reactive management a bit |
| 21:25.51 | CIA-4 | - Buffs/reactives are now organized by class in the menu |
| 21:25.51 | CIA-4 | - Only buffs/reactives for appropriate classes are checked (CPU optimization) |
| 21:25.55 | chiper | elus: yes |
| 21:26.00 | elusif | k |
| 21:26.11 | chiper | tho, not the classic |
| 21:26.13 | elusif | i had no internet for 3 months and last time i did it was easy to understand.. |
| 21:26.16 | chiper | I've switch to AucAdvanced |
| 21:26.21 | elusif | it gave me a start price and a buy out price |
| 21:26.32 | elusif | and whenever i browsed the auctions there was a big SCAN button |
| 21:26.40 | Pkekyo|defrag | now he's saying I need to buy 32GB ram and a 15k RPM harddrive to defrag properly >.< |
| 21:26.42 | elusif | at first i thought that the scan button must now be the play button |
| 21:26.43 | chiper | that version is still available |
| 21:26.46 | elusif | and i thought all was well |
| 21:26.58 | elusif | shit |
| 21:27.00 | elusif | i've gtg |
| 21:27.03 | chiper | elus: now it live scans |
| 21:27.07 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r58185 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0: Fix sending nil values directly through :Send[Prioritized]CommMessage, thanks to Xinhuan for finding the problem. |
| 21:27.07 | elusif | back in 15 minutes if you're still around |
| 21:27.12 | elusif | main worry is posting auctions |
| 21:27.24 | chiper | elus: just use the appraiser and click refresh for each item |
| 21:27.33 | elusif | there's no posting auctions tab - and what seems like and equivalent only gives a buyout price and not a start |
| 21:27.37 | elusif | hold that thought please |
| 21:27.40 | elusif | sorry bbs :D |
| 21:27.42 | KivinSan | click the 'uireload' button on the 'create auction' page and it'll update the price for the item you're setting the auction for |
| 21:28.14 | chiper | if you hit the SwitchUI button it'll give you something closer to what you're used to |
| 21:29.48 | kenlyric | appraiser is orgasm-inducing. |
| 21:30.25 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 21:30.37 | Ellipsis | I didn't know there were addons for *that* nowadays |
| 21:32.26 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 21:32.59 | chiper | I dunno about orgasm inducing, but it's certainly better than the old hit-scan-and-come-back-in-30-mnutes method |
| 21:33.59 | nadas | did anyone notice a massive drop in rogue dps since the patch? |
| 21:34.15 | Antiarc | nadas: I did 2k DPS on Teron as Hemo, which is sub-par for raiding now |
| 21:34.16 | kenlyric | rogues find it hard to dps through their tears. |
| 21:34.17 | Antiarc | So uh |
| 21:34.18 | Antiarc | Yeah. |
| 21:34.25 | Antiarc | (Last night) |
| 21:34.55 | nadas | i'm always 2k on teron.. this week our rogues are generally 200-600 below normal depending on the encounter |
| 21:35.16 | nadas | if it was just me i could dismiss it as me being a noob |
| 21:35.20 | nadas | but it's all our rogues |
| 21:35.20 | Antiarc | nadas: I'm also in basically all T5 :P |
| 21:35.26 | Pkekyo|defrag | ouh, just rememberd my mother baked me loads of wicked stuff for christmas that I haven't eaten yet :D |
| 21:35.28 | Chompers | i remember that dps video where the guy was really happy with 2k dps on that fight |
| 21:35.30 | Antiarc | Nothing but Hemo would have been nerfed |
| 21:35.41 | Antiarc | Combat swords should do what combat swords was doing in 2.3 |
| 21:35.42 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|defrag: shareplz. |
| 21:35.44 | nadas | Antiarc: i'm full t6 |
| 21:35.52 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 21:35.57 | Pkekyo|defrag | Ellipsis: sure, come get some |
| 21:36.00 | Ellipsis | kk |
| 21:36.03 | dylanm | Ant you got dibs on glaives? |
| 21:36.12 | Pkekyo|defrag | better hurry though, it's tasty as hell, they go fast :p |
| 21:36.24 | Antiarc | dylanm: I'm leading on DKP right now, yeah |
| 21:36.31 | dylanm | Score |
| 21:36.35 | Antiarc | I can't spend on anything so I can buy them, which is why I'm still in mostly T5 :P |
| 21:36.51 | Ellipsis | can has epix? |
| 21:37.15 | dylanm | You gotta get two though otherwise you just look like you're about to tip over. |
| 21:37.31 | Antiarc | We're awarding the warglaives as a pair |
| 21:37.34 | Chompers | any luck on illidan Antiarc? |
| 21:37.40 | Antiarc | Whoever buys the first gets the set match for free |
| 21:37.45 | Antiarc | Chompers: We're on RoS |
| 21:37.57 | Chompers | oh, im sure i heard you say you were starting illidan soon |
| 21:37.59 | Chompers | my bad |
| 21:38.04 | Antiarc | Hehe, no, not me |
| 21:38.18 | Chompers | ros is still tough though, so i hear |
| 21:38.45 | Antiarc | I'll find out tomorrow :) |
| 21:38.50 | shieldb | RoS can be sort of tough until people get what the heck is going on in each phase, then it's super easy to repeat every week |
| 21:38.56 | Antiarc | We stopped BT in early dec to focus on Hyjal |
| 21:38.56 | Pkekyo|defrag | MEH! |
| 21:38.56 | Pkekyo|defrag | hard to type with cookies standing on the keyboard :p |
| 21:39.02 | Antiarc | But we have Hyjal on farm now |
| 21:39.08 | Antiarc | And BT through Gurtogg on farm |
| 21:39.16 | Antiarc | So we'll pushing towards BT clear now |
| 21:39.28 | Pkekyo|defrag | ckknight: pingalingdingdong? |
| 21:39.50 | Chompers | gear from hyjal will make that easy |
| 21:39.58 | Pkekyo|defrag | ~seen thul |
| 21:40.00 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1027 messages. Is idling for 2d 18h 33m 33s, last said: 'wish me luck :-D'. |
| 21:40.01 | Chompers | and its a fast clear |
| 21:40.19 | shieldb | probably the thing that made the biggest difference on RoS was just getting all the people interrupting spirit shock to snag a modified version of quartz that didn't display a deaden castbar ;) |
| 21:40.35 | Antiarc | shieldb: I already have our folks set up with it :) |
| 21:40.51 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 21:41.02 | Pkekyo|defrag | anyone tried the Portal demo yet? |
| 21:41.34 | *** part/#wowace ccwork (n=ccwork@204.153.88.3) |
| 21:42.03 | Antiarc | I just played Portal itself :P |
| 21:42.21 | Pkekyo|defrag | I'm curios about what the demo's like |
| 21:42.30 | CIA-4 | 03bigzero 07bigzero * r58186 10UIGnome/UIGnome/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:42.30 | CIA-4 | UIGnome: |
| 21:42.30 | CIA-4 | - all features should be working |
| 21:42.30 | CIA-4 | - Omen metadata added |
| 21:42.30 | CIA-4 | - included a little demo |
| 21:42.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | is it just the first couple of levels or something? |
| 21:42.43 | Josh_Borke | ~acewiki UIGnome |
| 21:42.50 | bigzero | DNE i think |
| 21:42.52 | Josh_Borke | anybody know how to make that return a link to the wiki? |
| 21:42.58 | Josh_Borke | bigzero: what's UIGnome do? |
| 21:43.16 | bigzero | supposed to extract settings from addons and then allow you to reload them |
| 21:43.32 | bigzero | so you can make several UI layouts and easily switch between them |
| 21:44.02 | chiper | pk: what I read said it's the first third of the game |
| 21:44.16 | Josh_Borke | bigzero: so what art3mis wanted? |
| 21:44.18 | Josh_Borke | or whoever it was? |
| 21:44.28 | bigzero | not completely functional yet...no GUI yet, so hard to use. And only Omen is supported so far |
| 21:44.36 | Pkekyo|defrag | first third? should be just enough to make people want to buy it :) |
| 21:45.08 | bigzero | Josh_Borke, but it's easy to write support for other addons. I also need to build support for blizz settings |
| 21:45.14 | bigzero | and frame positioning |
| 21:45.17 | chiper | yeah, I think that'll get you up to just before the really challenging rooms |
| 21:45.24 | Josh_Borke | bigzero: ok, was just curious |
| 21:46.16 | bigzero | Antiarc was not convinced that this could be done for Omen for instance, so I decided to add support for that real quick and make a little demo |
| 21:46.27 | Antiarc | It can be done for Omen easily |
| 21:46.30 | elusif | chiper: will look for switchUI button now |
| 21:46.32 | Antiarc | It just can't be done for all mods generically |
| 21:46.38 | Antiarc | And I used Omen as an example why :P |
| 21:47.06 | elusif | there is no switch UI button in auctioneer under the browse tab |
| 21:47.07 | bigzero | well, idk how generic you want it, but it's not that hard to add support for any mod you want |
| 21:47.56 | *** join/#wowace ins\_ (n=sam@83.101.15.57) |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-4 | 03phyber * r58187 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Inspect.lua): |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-4 | Fizzle: |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-4 | - Change now slot names are stored. Removed lots of pointless tables. |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-4 | - Made string.format local. |
| 21:48.00 | CIA-4 | - Removed a few commented out things. |
| 21:48.14 | KivinSan | bigzero: Where does the support go, if someone needed it to support some arbitary addon: do you code it into your own addon, into uignome, or a partner addon/module that connects the two? |
| 21:48.39 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 21:49.04 | bigzero | KivinSan, there are two ways, the addon can register a table with variables to save with UIGnome, or you can code that data into UIGnome |
| 21:49.25 | bigzero | the 2nd part is like Skinner |
| 21:49.25 | *** join/#wowace Bayi (n=Terok_No@bayi.sx5.cable.tolna.net) |
| 21:49.44 | Bayi | hi |
| 21:49.58 | chiper | elus: not under browse, on the Appraisal tab |
| 21:50.12 | chiper | the new method for selling is to use the appraiser |
| 21:50.45 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 21:51.33 | chiper | elusif: you select what you want to sell and click the refresh button to poll the server for the current auctions. you then define a price per item and stack size, and click the button to sell it |
| 21:51.53 | chiper | but if you prefer the old method, just hit the switchUI and it'll give you the old sale per stack mode |
| 21:51.56 | Ellipsis | "Windows Task Manager has encountered a problem and needs to close." |
| 21:52.04 | Ellipsis | neat, I've never managed to get it to do *that* before |
| 21:52.16 | kenlyric | you can also do a full scan if you want. |
| 21:52.17 | chiper | Ellipsis: your tasks are in mutiny |
| 21:52.38 | kenlyric | but generally rescanning for each item is much, much faste4r. |
| 21:53.02 | Ellipsis | ping phyber? |
| 21:53.11 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 21:53.11 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 21:53.14 | Pkekyo|defrag | Ellipsis: how the flying fuck did you manage to do that? :p |
| 21:53.17 | phyber | Ellipsis: hi |
| 21:53.19 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|defrag: I have no idea |
| 21:53.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | ^^ |
| 21:53.38 | Ellipsis | phyber: I see you're messing with fizzle, did you fix the inspected tabard quality colors not showing up? |
| 21:53.49 | Pkekyo|defrag | think I got "can not find C:\" once (which was the windows partition) |
| 21:53.52 | phyber | Ellipsis: hmm, I didn't know they were broken. |
| 21:53.55 | phyber | I'll check! |
| 21:54.03 | Ellipsis | yeah, inspecting people wearing a green quality tabard shows no quality border |
| 21:54.36 | Ellipsis | poked around in the code a bit and couldn't quite see what was wrong, maybe you can figure it out :) |
| 21:55.14 | *** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-222-104.citykom.de) |
| 21:56.14 | phyber | hmm, weird. |
| 21:58.02 | ShenDK | "Cannot find keyboard, press F1 to continue" I think that was my favorite |
| 21:58.41 | kenlyric | my computer doesn't recognize my USB wireless keyboard during boot. It's pretty annoying. |
| 21:58.49 | ShenDK | and "Insert Windows 95 CD-ROM into drive A:" |
| 21:59.22 | NivFreak | kenlyric: turn on usb compat mode |
| 21:59.38 | kenlyric | checked for that setting and never found it. |
| 21:59.58 | chiper | tabards are just for appearance, right? there arent any that do anything are there? |
| 21:59.58 | kenlyric | I just plug in my IBM ps/2 monstrosity. |
| 22:00.13 | kenlyric | chiper: one of them does a holy nova animation |
| 22:00.17 | Ellipsis | imo the solution is to not reboot |
| 22:00.19 | kenlyric | has a Use: effect |
| 22:00.40 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28788 |
| 22:00.46 | buu | Ellipsis: YES. |
| 22:00.52 | Ellipsis | <3 buu |
| 22:01.41 | kenlyric | does the scarlet crusade tabard only drop during the naxx invasion, or all the time? |
| 22:01.45 | CIA-4 | 03pernicius * r58188 10/branches/AtlasOfAzeroth/: .Created folder remotely |
| 22:01.56 | Ellipsis | all the time now |
| 22:02.14 | kenlyric | maybe when I come back I'll farm that shit. |
| 22:02.21 | Pkekyo|defrag | NivFreakkenlyric: turn on usb compat mode <--- how?! |
| 22:02.48 | chiper | ken: I dont remember this quests... |
| 22:02.49 | Pkekyo|defrag | well, doesn't matter for me....my computer doesn't support DVI graphics until window's booted all up anyways, so I can't see jack shit :p |
| 22:03.12 | exor674 | Pkekyo|defrag: pull your bios out of your computer, put it in a BIOS writer and play "throw the dart at the bit" |
| 22:03.23 | Ellipsis | sounds like fun |
| 22:03.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | exor674: sounds to scary for my taste |
| 22:03.39 | Ellipsis | wimp! |
| 22:03.49 | Pkekyo|defrag | and either way, I can't see anything before windows has booted xD |
| 22:03.51 | exor674 | (I apologize, someone flipped my "smartass" switch on this morning) |
| 22:03.52 | chiper | ah, I see, the quest that rewards the tabard was removed in 2.0.4 |
| 22:04.01 | kenlyric | wait. |
| 22:04.09 | kenlyric | it's possible to turn smartass off? |
| 22:04.17 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 22:04.24 | exor674 | if you give me 5000g it owuld be :P |
| 22:04.39 | kenlyric | if that werre really true, IRC would cease to exist. |
| 22:04.44 | CIA-4 | 03pernicius 07pernicius * r58189 10AtlasOfAzeroth/: .Created folder remotely |
| 22:04.50 | kenlyric | I only had 3700g. |
| 22:05.14 | chiper | pk: wait, your dvi doesnt work until windows boots? what kind of shit video card are you using? |
| 22:05.25 | Pkekyo|defrag | radeon x1650 |
| 22:05.43 | chiper | ok, then it's gotta be your mobo |
| 22:05.48 | kenlyric | how could your video card not send a basic VGA signal? |
| 22:05.58 | Pkekyo|defrag | DVI, not VGA |
| 22:06.00 | chiper | that card should support dvi the instant it gets power |
| 22:06.01 | kenlyric | yes |
| 22:06.15 | kenlyric | but how could your video card not send a basic vga signal over DVI? |
| 22:06.37 | Pkekyo|defrag | no idea, I thought it'd work just like vga |
| 22:06.43 | exor674 | I wonde though |
| 22:06.45 | kenlyric | it should. |
| 22:06.51 | chiper | yeah, it should |
| 22:06.55 | exor674 | mebbe its a oddly silent bios haha |
| 22:06.56 | kenlyric | unless your motherboard can't recognize your video card. |
| 22:07.00 | exor674 | doesn't have anything to say :P |
| 22:07.16 | kenlyric | but I'm not sure how windows would then. |
| 22:07.23 | CIA-4 | 03lilsparky * r58190 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (4 files): |
| 22:07.23 | CIA-4 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 22:07.23 | CIA-4 | - added support for periodic table's vendor availabilty |
| 22:07.23 | CIA-4 | - added "bop" identification |
| 22:07.28 | kenlyric | your computer is made of demon viking parts |
| 22:08.01 | exor674 | does the motherbaord have integrated graphics |
| 22:08.12 | Pkekyo|defrag | err |
| 22:08.14 | Pkekyo|defrag | maybe? :p |
| 22:08.21 | exor674 | that might be why :P |
| 22:08.23 | chiper | oh, that explains it |
| 22:08.24 | kenlyric | ohhhhhh. |
| 22:08.31 | chiper | dufus didnt disable his onboard video |
| 22:08.41 | Pkekyo|defrag | no, but there's a serial port! :p |
| 22:08.43 | kenlyric | what kind of mobo hardcodes to onboard? |
| 22:08.56 | kenlyric | chiper: no board I've ever used has required that. |
| 22:08.59 | kenlyric | must be a crap board. |
| 22:09.11 | Pkekyo|defrag | I say again, no integrated graphics |
| 22:09.32 | kenlyric | I say: viking. |
| 22:09.53 | Pkekyo|defrag | what viking? >.< |
| 22:09.54 | KivinSan | demon viking |
| 22:10.02 | *** join/#wowace RaydenU (n=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu) |
| 22:10.04 | Pkekyo|defrag | _not_helping_ |
| 22:10.04 | Pkekyo|defrag | :p |
| 22:10.41 | Pkekyo|defrag | hm |
| 22:10.41 | Pkekyo|defrag | why does windoze have the impression I have a floppy drive? |
| 22:10.43 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r58191 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:10.43 | CIA-4 | .trunk: BigWigs, Babble-Boss-2.2, Babble-Spell-2.2, LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua |
| 22:10.43 | CIA-4 | -deDE updates for 2.3.2 |
| 22:10.59 | chiper | because you have a shit motherboard that says you have a floppy drive |
| 22:11.02 | Pkekyo|defrag | also, hlep, I want to see my purty bootscreen! |
| 22:11.09 | bigzero | funkydude....update inventory too!!! |
| 22:11.51 | Pkekyo|defrag | don't think my mobo's that shitty tbh |
| 22:12.19 | Pkekyo|defrag | ASUS M2V with a K8T900 chipset |
| 22:12.41 | Pkekyo|defrag | American Megatrends v.1501 BIOS |
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| 22:13.29 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092836.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 22:13.34 | chiper | you're right, that should be a good board |
| 22:13.44 | chiper | so clearly it's user error |
| 22:13.58 | Pkekyo|defrag | and how do I use the error? :p |
| 22:14.30 | Pkekyo|defrag | I don't think THAT much could go wrong between the monitor being unconnected and the monitor being connected :p |
| 22:17.26 | Pkekyo|defrag | chiper: put on the smart hat, tell me howto fix |
| 22:18.15 | chiper | i never took my hat off :P |
| 22:18.31 | Pkekyo|defrag | then just tell howto :p |
| 22:19.12 | CIA-4 | 03pernicius 07pernicius * r58192 10AtlasOfAzeroth/AtlasOfAzeroth/ (62 files in 10 dirs): .initial upload (Ace3 version) |
| 22:19.33 | chiper | I dont know what's wrong. I cant fix when I dont know the problem |
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| 22:20.00 | phyber | Ellipsis: wow, this bug is totally screwy. |
| 22:20.06 | Pkekyo|defrag | at what level during boot are the graphics drivers loaded? not until win, and until then it's default stuffs? |
| 22:20.13 | phyber | Ellipsis: it's like WoW just ignores the last element of the table of item slots. |
| 22:20.22 | phyber | it never processes the Tabard slot. |
| 22:20.45 | phyber | actually, I think i might know why... |
| 22:20.57 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf_ (n=MoonWolf@i209133.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 22:21.17 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:21.31 | phyber | ok, it's because of the relic slot. |
| 22:21.36 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 22:21.43 | phyber | and because I return out of the loop when a slot id isn't found. |
| 22:21.56 | phyber | WTB 'next' for the loop! |
| 22:22.12 | phyber | next/continue/something to stop processing the current element and skip to the next. |
| 22:22.23 | KivinSan | phyber: I miss that from C# :( |
| 22:22.33 | Pkekyo|defrag | defrag completed: total fragmentation 4%, 8% file fragmentation...should I have another go at it? |
| 22:22.42 | KivinSan | if (! something) continue; |
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| 22:23.20 | chiper | pk: graphics drivers are loaded when windows loads, but the motherboard should output a low-res signal of the POST process |
| 22:23.46 | Pkekyo|defrag | yeah, had that impression to |
| 22:24.14 | Pkekyo|defrag | there's also a VGA connector on the monitor, and if I connect that I get the low-res signal, but it won't start using the DVI signal when windows boots |
| 22:24.32 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:24.56 | chiper | are you using the driver that came on the disk, or the driver off ATI's website? |
| 22:24.59 | Pkekyo| | defrag completed! :p |
| 22:25.16 | Pkekyo| | still using the one that came with my graphicscard |
| 22:25.21 | phyber | Ellipsis: ok, it's fixed now. commit will come in a moment :) |
| 22:25.24 | phyber | thanks for pointing that out. |
| 22:25.29 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo|defrag (n=dsad@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:26.04 | Pkekyo| | chiper: should that matter at all? |
| 22:26.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:26.18 | chiper | pk: well there's your problem. never, ever, ever use the driver that comes on the cd |
| 22:26.18 | Pkekyo| | since there's a DVI connector, it should support DVI by default, shouldn't it? |
| 22:26.21 | Arrowmaster | always use latest graphics card drivers |
| 22:26.23 | Pkekyo| | whyes nuts? |
| 22:26.37 | Pkekyo| | no, I've upgraded my drivers actually |
| 22:26.51 | Pkekyo| | to some customized piece of shit that I needed to run a Halo 2 PC port :p |
| 22:27.12 | chiper | the version on the cd is altered by the OEM, and usually very out dated. I've never had an OEM driver work properly |
| 22:27.19 | chiper | go get catalyst off ATI's website |
| 22:27.21 | CIA-4 | 03phyber * r58193 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Inspect.lua): |
| 22:27.21 | CIA-4 | Fizzle: |
| 22:27.21 | CIA-4 | - Make ipairs local. |
| 22:27.22 | CIA-4 | - Quality borders for Tabards will now show when using the Inspect module. |
| 22:27.29 | Ellipsis | awesome, thanks phyber <3 |
| 22:27.48 | Pkekyo| | chiper: it's not the OEM after all |
| 22:27.57 | Pkekyo| | why does the OEM alter it? |
| 22:28.05 | chiper | branding and shit |
| 22:28.05 | Arrowmaster | because theyre twats |
| 22:28.18 | Pkekyo| | branding? |
| 22:28.26 | Arrowmaster | putting their logo all over it |
| 22:28.26 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: thought it was given that all retailers are twats? :p |
| 22:28.43 | chiper | just get catalyst, you'll never go wrong with ATI's official driver |
| 22:29.02 | Arrowmaster | i dont think ive ever had ati's official drivers installed |
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| 22:29.08 | Arrowmaster | always used omega |
| 22:29.16 | Lukian | Who wants to write me an addon? :D |
| 22:29.19 | Pkekyo| | for some reasons, I've always had problems with the ATI drivers lacking some bloody dll |
| 22:29.31 | Arrowmaster | what dll? |
| 22:29.47 | Pkekyo| | no idea, methinks I just gave up on it |
| 22:30.59 | Pkekyo| | maybe splinter cell will start working if I get rid of this borked driver |
| 22:31.17 | Xinhuan | [2008/01/11 06:29:39-4528-x1]: XinTimer\XinTimer.lua:263: nesting of [[...]] is deprecated near '[' |
| 22:31.20 | Xinhuan | wow that's gay |
| 22:31.44 | nevcairiel | what were you doing o.O |
| 22:31.56 | Xinhuan | nothing, i just wanted to comment out an entire code sectin |
| 22:32.02 | Xinhuan | which already had a commented out code block |
| 22:32.15 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: use --[=[ |
| 22:32.26 | Xinhuan | (this code block is the pastey i showed you for xinacetest ;p) |
| 22:32.32 | Pkekyo| | hm...something've ruined steam |
| 22:32.58 | nevcairiel | and i thought it meant using [[ for strings |
| 22:32.59 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 22:33.01 | nevcairiel | not comments |
| 22:33.02 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 22:33.04 | Xinhuan | --[[ |
| 22:33.08 | Xinhuan | begins a comment block |
| 22:33.10 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 22:33.13 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 22:33.16 | nevcairiel | [[ begins a string block |
| 22:33.17 | KivinSan | you can't nest --[[, but you can if you use --[=[ |
| 22:33.20 | KivinSan | ohhh |
| 22:33.21 | KivinSan | nvm |
| 22:33.24 | Xinhuan | inside of which has another --[[ block |
| 22:33.30 | Xinhuan | and so lua complains |
| 22:33.33 | KivinSan | you're right, that's pretty lame |
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| 22:33.52 | Xinhuan | in other words, i have 2 --[[ |
| 22:33.55 | Xinhuan | but only 1 closing ]] |
| 22:34.09 | nevcairiel | add a second closing ]] ? |
| 22:34.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:34.19 | Xinhuan | didn't work, so i removed the 2nd --[[ |
| 22:34.20 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 22:34.23 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:34.24 | KivinSan | Is the comment inside the string literal, or the string literal inside the comment? |
| 22:34.36 | nevcairiel | its both comments |
| 22:34.43 | Xinhuan | lua> --[[ abcd --[[ ]] ]] |
| 22:34.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "--[[ abcd --[[ ]] ]]"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']' |
| 22:34.50 | Xinhuan | hmm that didn't quite work |
| 22:34.55 | Xinhuan | since its all on one line |
| 22:35.02 | nevcairiel | lua> -- testme() |
| 22:35.02 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: |
| 22:35.07 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 10; --[[ abcd --[[ ]] ]] |
| 22:35.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "a = 10; --[[ abcd --[[ ]] ]]"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']' |
| 22:35.09 | CIA-4 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r58194 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast_Config.lua): RaidCast: dry-code config changes |
| 22:35.14 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 10; --[[ abcd --[[ ]] |
| 22:35.14 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 22:35.37 | nevcairiel | i guess the parser is stupid, and closes on the first ]] |
| 22:36.20 | exor674 | well, aren't comments supposed to be TOTALLY ignored? |
| 22:36.36 | Xinhuan | apparantly the parser doesn't like a [[ inside a [[ |
| 22:36.43 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 22:36.44 | Funkeh` | you can't have bracketed comments in bracketed commentes |
| 22:36.47 | Funkeh` | it screws up |
| 22:36.48 | Xinhuan | even though the first [[ has a -- in front of it |
| 22:36.49 | Ellipsis | that allows your comment to contain the string --[[ without breaking thigns |
| 22:36.50 | sylvanaar | whats worse |
| 22:36.51 | Ellipsis | which is nice |
| 22:37.13 | nevcairiel | meh, like every language with block comments has that |
| 22:37.15 | Xinhuan | well --[[ [[ ]] is failing (with all these each on a seperate line) |
| 22:37.24 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:37.26 | nevcairiel | cant nest C /* .. */ comments either |
| 22:37.33 | sylvanaar | it gets even better if you use [[ ]] strings |
| 22:38.12 | Xinhuan | i also dont' like how when my code has stuff like t[t2[a +1]] = 123 |
| 22:38.18 | sylvanaar | or there was another one i just saw - with table indexes |
| 22:38.19 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:38.23 | sylvanaar | thats it |
| 22:38.24 | Xinhuan | the ]] there would screw up code block commenting out |
| 22:38.31 | Xinhuan | have to add a space there |
| 22:38.54 | sylvanaar | its goes [L["Whatever"]] |
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| 22:39.39 | Ellipsis | why would you use a localized string as a key |
| 22:39.45 | Ellipsis | instead of just the string itself |
| 22:39.56 | Xinhuan | many cases Ellipsis |
| 22:39.59 | nevcairiel | babble has that use sometimes |
| 22:40.07 | Xinhuan | such as when you want the key to be the localized string |
| 22:40.08 | sylvanaar | look at bigwigs too, its full of that |
| 22:40.15 | Xinhuan | so that you can do a lookup quickly |
| 22:40.20 | Xinhuan | on the localized string |
| 22:40.33 | Xinhuan | its fairly common |
| 22:40.51 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:40.54 | sylvanaar | yeah - thats why i was mentioning it - its common to see |
| 22:41.02 | sylvanaar | and gets you the ]] |
| 22:41.36 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: it's so you can work with the non-localized string |
| 22:41.57 | Xinhuan | especially when functions return localized strings in the wow api |
| 22:42.01 | Xinhuan | and you want to look up these entries |
| 22:42.11 | Xinhuan | such as from GetItemInfo() |
| 22:42.14 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan's example seems more common to me |
| 22:42.20 | Xinhuan | 2 of the arg replies are localized |
| 22:42.31 | JoshBorke | isn't that what i said? |
| 22:42.34 | Ellipsis | but maybe that's because I'd rather deal with computationally weird code than localization crap :P |
| 22:42.38 | JoshBorke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 22:42.38 | purl | strangles Xinhuan with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 22:42.48 | Xinhuan | don't hate! |
| 22:42.58 | JoshBorke | you got the credit for my statement! |
| 22:43.15 | Xinhuan | she likes me more |
| 22:43.25 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 22:43.58 | sylvanaar | at first i thought it was just a bug in my syntax hilighter |
| 22:44.18 | Ellipsis | oh man, everyone's fighting over my attention today :P |
| 22:45.27 | chiper | hey, in bigwigs, is there a quick way to load all the modules for a whole instance? |
| 22:45.47 | Xinhuan | why would you want to do that |
| 22:46.00 | chiper | because it's faster than doing it one at a time |
| 22:46.14 | Xinhuan | why would you want more than one loaded at any time? |
| 22:46.30 | exor674 | the entire instance is loaded :P |
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| 22:46.36 | exor674 | the modules aren't active |
| 22:46.37 | Xinhuan | ok rephrase |
| 22:46.37 | chiper | because I cant count on them to load themselves in time |
| 22:46.42 | Xinhuan | why would you want more than one enabled and active at any time? |
| 22:47.10 | exor674 | (you don't want more modules active then neccessary :P) |
| 22:47.23 | chiper | because I dont remeber to do unload them myself |
| 22:47.25 | Xinhuan | which bosses have the issue of not being able of loading before-hand? |
| 22:47.48 | Xinhuan | RoS is one such boss, i know |
| 22:47.48 | Ozguli` | just mouse-over the faggots |
| 22:47.51 | chiper | xin: nightbane, for one. if I dont tell it to load, it doesnt until the fight is already active |
| 22:48.00 | Xinhuan | maybe Opera is another, but you can trigger on the NPC to talk to |
| 22:48.10 | Xinhuan | you can mouseover nightbane as she flies in |
| 22:48.13 | chiper | yeah, opera's another |
| 22:48.28 | Xinhuan | that isn't an issue, or trigger on the flying in text, just bug ammo or funkeh to change the triggers |
| 22:48.31 | chiper | xin: I'd like it to be active to give me a landing timer |
| 22:48.45 | exor674 | then turn it on manually:P |
| 22:48.47 | Xinhuan | its supposed to trigger on the flying in text |
| 22:48.56 | chiper | it hasent been |
| 22:48.56 | Xinhuan | that's why the landing timer is accurate |
| 22:49.10 | Xinhuan | but i guess the same trigger isn't added for activation |
| 22:49.16 | chiper | if I manually load it before the fight, it works |
| 22:49.23 | chiper | the timer shows up when the text comes out |
| 22:49.34 | Xinhuan | well bug ammo about it |
| 22:49.37 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: Does the 'Query server for itemlinks' in WowEquip push a :SetHyperlink through for each itemID in the range? And does that run the risk of getting disconnected for too much traffic? |
| 22:49.52 | Xinhuan | it does a :SetHyperlink() every 10 seconds |
| 22:50.02 | Xinhuan | i've determined this speed is safe enough not to get a d/c |
| 22:50.02 | KivinSan | o.o |
| 22:50.20 | Xinhuan | i.e you need 97 hours to run through 35000 itemIDs at 1 per 10 sec |
| 22:50.24 | KivinSan | *blink* |
| 22:50.28 | KivinSan | holy crap |
| 22:50.35 | Xinhuan | it will skip items you already have in your cache |
| 22:50.40 | Xinhuan | so its not that long |
| 22:50.58 | Xinhuan | most of the time, you really only want to scan say 33000-35000 for all the BT/Hyjal items |
| 22:51.10 | KivinSan | Pff, that crap means nothing to me |
| 22:51.12 | Xinhuan | or download atlastloot and get it to do it for you |
| 22:51.31 | KivinSan | Was more of a curiosity than anything |
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| 22:51.54 | Xinhuan | curiosity is good! |
| 22:52.24 | KivinSan | are there a lot of nil itemIDs between 1-35k? i choose to start at a random place in between (20k) and it's only finding one per 10 sec |
| 22:52.26 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo|defrag (n=dsad@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:52.31 | Pkekyo|defrag | EPIC |
| 22:52.32 | Pkekyo|defrag | FUCKING |
| 22:52.33 | Pkekyo|defrag | FAIL |
| 22:52.40 | Xinhuan | there are about 1400 valid itemIDs between 1-35000 |
| 22:52.44 | Xinhuan | 14000 i mean |
| 22:52.52 | Kivin | Interesting |
| 22:53.03 | Pkekyo|defrag | with that piece of shit official ATI driver, I can't set the fucking resolution higher than 640x480 (4-bit) |
| 22:53.14 | Kivin | lol |
| 22:53.16 | chiper | ?? |
| 22:53.20 | Kivin | Error between keyboard and chair? |
| 22:53.25 | Pkekyo|defrag | nor does the fucking DVI connection work either |
| 22:53.38 | Osstia | Where does a night elf train mining? |
| 22:53.38 | chiper | kivin: yeah, I'm blaming all this on plbkac |
| 22:53.47 | Osstia | I don't see a trainer in Darnassus |
| 22:53.54 | Osstia | I ahte these fruity alliance |
| 22:53.55 | Pkekyo|defrag | Osstia: deeprun tram whilst cybering? |
| 22:54.11 | Osstia | that comes later Pkekyo|defrag |
| 22:54.13 | Xinhuan | to be specific, when wow designers create new items and zones, they seem to be assigned itemID ranges |
| 22:54.25 | Xinhuan | for example, all the bt/hyjal loot is in the 34000-34500 range or so |
| 22:54.28 | *** join/#wowace Cryect (i=Cryect@c-24-98-97-240.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.29 | chiper | oss: ask a guard? |
| 22:54.41 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.44 | Kivin | could roughly have something to do with the iLevel, or something |
| 22:54.48 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 22:54.50 | Osstia | there is no trainer in darnassus according to the guars Chiper |
| 22:54.50 | Pkekyo|sodATI | ok...so what the flying fuck do I do? |
| 22:54.53 | Xinhuan | nothing to do with ilvl |
| 22:55.04 | chiper | oh, it's at auberdine |
| 22:55.09 | Xinhuan | justbecause a itemID block of 500 items is assigned, they dont' have to use all 500 of it |
| 22:55.12 | Xinhuan | so there's lots of holes |
| 22:55.13 | Osstia | I am trying to help a coworker, I was curious as to where to send him, but nevber having spent much time on one i wasn't sure |
| 22:55.16 | chiper | there's no mineral nodes on the island |
| 22:55.18 | Osstia | chiper: ty very much |
| 22:55.20 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=Ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:55.34 | exor674 | cause its a tree :D |
| 22:55.57 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:56.01 | CIA-4 | 03anall * r58195 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_EpicCountFu: Initial import |
| 22:56.04 | chiper | ... the island's a tree? |
| 22:56.17 | Kivin | yes |
| 22:56.18 | chiper | wow, that suddenly explains a lot |
| 22:56.25 | Arrowmaster | not another failure that cant use svn |
| 22:56.28 | Kivin | Teldrassil is the world tree |
| 22:56.32 | chiper | I've been playing this game for 3 years and never figured that out |
| 22:56.50 | Pkekyo|sodATI | ...seriously...what the flying fuck do I do? |
| 22:56.57 | chiper | 'course, I usually get off the island as soon as possible |
| 22:56.58 | exor674 | bah... |
| 22:57.07 | Osstia | I play horde, so I never knew |
| 22:57.09 | chiper | pk: roll back the driver |
| 22:57.12 | Pkekyo|sodATI | how? |
| 22:57.23 | exor674 | somehow I think I just threw all my files up in the trunk |
| 22:57.29 | chiper | in the hardware manager |
| 22:57.30 | Arrowmaster | you did |
| 22:58.01 | smoke_ | anyone around use witchhunt? |
| 22:58.05 | Xinhuan | haha epicountfu |
| 22:58.07 | Xinhuan | i like that |
| 22:58.13 | Pkekyo|sodATI | chiper: what do I do in the hardware manager? |
| 22:58.30 | chiper | sigh |
| 22:58.45 | *** join/#wowace fridgid (n=Fridgid@24.96.171.56) |
| 22:59.14 | Pkekyo|sodATI | I have a localized version, there's no such option as "rollback" here |
| 22:59.28 | chiper | device manager, find your video card under the Display Adapters limb. right click and select properties |
| 22:59.53 | chiper | click the driver tab and click Roll Back Driver |
| 23:00.17 | CIA-4 | 03simlan * r58196 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): |
| 23:00.17 | CIA-4 | ActionCombat: |
| 23:00.17 | CIA-4 | - Added option to hide the blizzard error frame |
| 23:00.17 | chiper | it's the third button down |
| 23:00.23 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 23:00.35 | Pkekyo|sodATI | gah |
| 23:00.36 | Pkekyo|sodATI | is there any way to get windows to become english? |
| 23:00.54 | chiper | I have no idea, I've never used a non-US release |
| 23:01.15 | Pkekyo|sodATI | bloody impossible to get a non-localized version 'round here |
| 23:01.19 | nevcairiel | you cant switch windows language |
| 23:01.32 | Pkekyo|sodATI | well that sucks >.< |
| 23:01.37 | Pkekyo|sodATI | why not? |
| 23:01.42 | Pkekyo|sodATI | ~fail windows |
| 23:01.43 | purl | windows: Fail. |
| 23:01.54 | Pkekyo|sodATI | stating the obvious ftw |
| 23:02.36 | nevcairiel | at least i would know which the "rollback" button in my localized windows is :P |
| 23:02.53 | Xinhuan | someone should fix this commit |
| 23:02.54 | Xinhuan | [1/11 06:55:45] <CIA-4> anall * r58195 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_EpicCountFu: Initial import |
| 23:03.00 | Xinhuan | it uploaded all 6 files into /trunk |
| 23:03.09 | nevcairiel | it may be called "installed drivers" or something like that, at least its that in my translation |
| 23:03.13 | exor674 | I'd fix it but I'm afraid I'd like accidentally wipe the trunk |
| 23:03.23 | exor674 | I'm not too successful with SVN today |
| 23:03.33 | Kivin | pull up /trunk in your repo browser and delete those six files, then commit to /trunk/YourAddonName/ |
| 23:03.39 | Pkekyo|sodATI | localizations in my language is completely retarded... "roll back" could be translated to something meaning "twirl around upside down" |
| 23:03.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:03.49 | Pkekyo|sodATI | is/are* |
| 23:03.49 | *** join/#wowace masanbol (n=masanbol@c-98-198-102-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:03.56 | exor674 | I'm generally a command-line user |
| 23:04.12 | nevcairiel | its the 3rd button from the top in the drivers tab of the device |
| 23:04.18 | chiper | CLI ftl |
| 23:04.21 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@89.166.195.76) |
| 23:04.23 | exor674 | I've just never ever had to add files into an already existing trunk |
| 23:04.25 | *** join/#wowace moravec (n=hamish@AC8FA061.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:04.32 | Kivin | dunno, then. tsvn ftw |
| 23:04.33 | Arrowmaster | you really failed then if you commited directly to trunk then with cli |
| 23:04.37 | exor674 | in SVN before when I've used it |
| 23:04.41 | Arrowmaster | cli > tsvn |
| 23:05.14 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58197 10Cryolysis2/ (33 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:05.14 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:05.14 | CIA-4 | - Split code up into multiple files |
| 23:05.14 | CIA-4 | - Added embeds.xml |
| 23:05.14 | CIA-4 | - Implemented Babble-Spell-2.2 for spell translations |
| 23:05.15 | CIA-4 | - Cleaned up code to make it more OOPish |
| 23:05.17 | CIA-4 | - Updated locale files with the reduced translations |
| 23:05.43 | Xinhuan | more OOPish! |
| 23:05.50 | Pkekyo|sodATI | nevcairiel: I found it and rollbacked...gone hunting for an omegadriver now |
| 23:06.08 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 23:06.12 | Arrowmaster | use the offical drivers |
| 23:06.14 | chiper | what is this omega? |
| 23:06.20 | *** join/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@71.238.241.206) |
| 23:06.28 | chiper | arrow: he just tried to |
| 23:06.51 | Arrowmaster | omega drivers wont help at all |
| 23:06.53 | Paene | blah, forgot to join the channel first...did that last commit of mine go through? |
| 23:07.06 | chiper | Paene: yes |
| 23:07.06 | Arrowmaster | since theyre built on the official ones |
| 23:07.12 | Paene | chiper: excellent, thanks |
| 23:07.14 | Xinhuan | if its on cryolsis2, yes it did |
| 23:07.14 | Osstia | Paene: yes |
| 23:07.24 | Paene | that would be it :) |
| 23:07.32 | CIA-4 | 03schelli * r58198 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.lua: GridAutoFrameSize : another sizing fix... |
| 23:07.34 | Xinhuan | i was giggling at "more OOPish" |
| 23:07.41 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: I just did....official ATI drivers screwed me the flying fuck over |
| 23:07.43 | Ellipsis | sounds dirty |
| 23:07.44 | Xinhuan | because its nice sounding on the tongue |
| 23:08.00 | Arrowmaster | sounds like pebkac to me |
| 23:08.12 | Osstia | wow Xinhuan, you know what else sounds nice on the tongue |
| 23:08.18 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: HOW? |
| 23:08.32 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: what card do you have? |
| 23:08.36 | Pkekyo| | x1650 |
| 23:08.43 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 23:09.01 | Arrowmaster | what os? |
| 23:09.09 | Pkekyo| | win xp |
| 23:09.12 | Pkekyo| | 32 bit |
| 23:09.14 | Ellipsis | "Notepad has encountered a problem and needs to close." |
| 23:09.17 | Pkekyo| | and yes, I downloaded the correct driver |
| 23:09.20 | Ellipsis | jesus, first task manager, now freaking NOTEPAD?! |
| 23:09.21 | Osstia | Ellipsis: wow, thats nice |
| 23:09.28 | Kivin | Ellipsis: Welcome to the end of the world |
| 23:09.33 | Pkekyo| | impressive Ellipsis, you're getting better by the minute :) |
| 23:09.36 | Ellipsis | my computer is trying to kill itself... |
| 23:09.38 | CIA-4 | 03merl * r58199 10mHud/ (20 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:09.38 | CIA-4 | mHud: uploaded |
| 23:09.38 | CIA-4 | - A custom HUD add on that allows you to use your own textures and configure it to your needs. Comes with a few textures. |
| 23:09.39 | Osstia | I had a machine a few weeks ago that was doing something similar |
| 23:09.45 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: get a sledgehammer and help it |
| 23:09.53 | Kivin | First TaskMgr, now Notepad. Skynet is almost ready. |
| 23:10.01 | Pkekyo| | bwahahah |
| 23:10.04 | Osstia | I couldn't get anything to run. Explorer.exe, mmc.exe, task manager, nothing |
| 23:10.27 | Ellipsis | things run just fine until I try to close them |
| 23:10.36 | Xinhuan | sounds corrupted |
| 23:10.38 | Xinhuan | virus? |
| 23:10.40 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 23:10.55 | Ellipsis | probably the shell stuff I was doing |
| 23:11.18 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: language is your windows |
| 23:11.25 | Ellipsis | still, kind of amusing that anything made by MS will crash when I try to cloes it |
| 23:11.26 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: what? |
| 23:11.35 | Arrowmaster | you said you had a localized version |
| 23:11.47 | Ellipsis | norwegian |
| 23:11.47 | Pkekyo| | norwegian no_BM |
| 23:13.21 | Pkekyo| | stalks? |
| 23:13.27 | Pkekyo| | what are you stalking? |
| 23:14.02 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58200 10KivinSpamGuard/main.lua: KivinSpamGuard: All your SVN are belong to me. (Fixing svn:keywords) |
| 23:14.05 | Ellipsis | you, of course |
| 23:14.08 | Arrowmaster | https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/7-12_xp32_dd_55811.exe https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/7-12_xp32-64_ccc_lang3_55813.exe https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/7-12_xp32-64_wdm_55811.exe |
| 23:14.18 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: why? |
| 23:14.39 | Ellipsis | because I like the way you get undressed when you go to bed |
| 23:14.40 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r58201 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.toc: |
| 23:14.40 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:14.40 | CIA-4 | - Small toc update |
| 23:14.41 | Ellipsis | ;D |
| 23:14.43 | Pkekyo| | " |
| 23:14.43 | Pkekyo| | Sorry, you have insufficient access. |
| 23:14.43 | Pkekyo| | 403 Access Denied." |
| 23:14.55 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:14.56 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: how the hell? |
| 23:15.07 | Pkekyo| | anyways, what are you linking? |
| 23:15.08 | Arrowmaster | http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonxip-xp |
| 23:15.59 | *** part/#wowace moravec (n=hamish@AC8FA061.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:16.19 | *** part/#wowace Bayi (n=Terok_No@bayi.sx5.cable.tolna.net) |
| 23:16.26 | NeoTron | keylogger! |
| 23:16.32 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: oh...you hadn't noticed the hidden cameras? |
| 23:16.40 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: can't say I have |
| 23:17.01 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: what were you trying to link? |
| 23:17.24 | Arrowmaster | all 3 of those with CCC in norwegian |
| 23:17.33 | Pkekyo| | CCC? |
| 23:17.35 | fridgid | blp > tga, help? |
| 23:17.42 | Arrowmaster | Catalyst Control Center |
| 23:17.46 | Pkekyo| | but why? |
| 23:17.53 | fridgid | can only find tga > blp : / |
| 23:18.37 | CIA-4 | 03anall * r58202 10FuBar_EpicCountFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_EpicCountFu: Lets try this again. Initial Import. |
| 23:18.48 | Kivin | that looks better |
| 23:19.05 | Kivin | did we get the incorrect files trashed? |
| 23:19.17 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 23:19.22 | Kivin | want me to delete em? |
| 23:19.29 | Xinhuan | i don't personally care |
| 23:19.37 | Kivin | Arrowmaster |
| 23:19.37 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: should be enough to just get the display driver, no? |
| 23:19.38 | Kivin | ? |
| 23:19.46 | exor674 | I checked in tsvn on my other compy and they appear to be gone |
| 23:19.55 | Pkekyo| | (trying to use as little localized software as possible) |
| 23:20.10 | exor674 | er, no they're not |
| 23:20.13 | Xinhuan | i didn't see any commit that removed them |
| 23:20.23 | exor674 | oh right.. because that was probably doing directory then file sorting haha |
| 23:20.28 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58203 10KivinSpamGuard/main.lua: |
| 23:20.29 | CIA-4 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 23:20.29 | CIA-4 | - Corrected an issue which caused user data to be disposed before spam detection could occur. |
| 23:20.35 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: ok then try just the display drivers |
| 23:20.41 | Pkekyo| | that's what I did |
| 23:20.43 | Osstia | ohhh, is that ready for use Kivin? |
| 23:20.47 | Pkekyo| | and got raped by drivers |
| 23:20.54 | Kivin | Osstia: it should be. i've been using it since day 1 successfully |
| 23:21.01 | Osstia | nice |
| 23:21.14 | Pkekyo| | 640x480 4-bit was best graphics I could get, and there wasn't even any DVI output |
| 23:21.14 | Kivin | Osstia: The GUI is far from ready. It only has a few options, enable, enable verbose warnings, and whether to protect system channels |
| 23:21.16 | Osstia | I finished my first addon, I need to start something else |
| 23:21.28 | Osstia | is it all rockConfig? |
| 23:21.31 | Kivin | no |
| 23:21.43 | *** join/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:21.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ |
| 23:21.44 | Osstia | cool, I might have to take a peek tonight |
| 23:21.44 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: maybe your hardware sucks |
| 23:21.48 | Kivin | I trashed the rockconfig menus since I eventually want to either de-framework it, or go ace3 |
| 23:21.51 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: howso? |
| 23:22.14 | Arrowmaster | sometimes manufactures realy fuck with shit and make it not work with official drivers |
| 23:22.20 | Kivin | Osstia: If you ever get a mind to, feel free to figure out how to improve spam detection. The filters are pretty primitive. |
| 23:22.29 | Pkekyo| | but...it's an ATI Radeon card? |
| 23:22.57 | Arrowmaster | ati doesnt make the cards |
| 23:23.04 | Arrowmaster | some other manufacture does |
| 23:23.22 | Pkekyo| | and it's an ATI driver that's installed now, only it's modified to work with a xbox --> PC port of Halo 2 |
| 23:23.34 | CIA-4 | 03anall * r58204 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): .Cleaning up my mess from improper FuBar_EpicCountFu import. |
| 23:24.03 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 23:24.43 | bigzero | ~hyperChipmunk |
| 23:24.43 | purl | hmm... hyperchipmunk is *chitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitterchitter* |
| 23:24.46 | bigzero | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 23:24.50 | purl | hyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 25d 16h 6m 20s ago, saying: '~improbability'. |
| 23:25.02 | bigzero | man, he's been sedated for a while |
| 23:25.22 | bigzero | that can't be healthy |
| 23:25.30 | Wobwork | They upped his lithium |
| 23:25.45 | Wobwork | ~seen sedatedChipmunk: |
| 23:25.47 | purl | Wobwork: i haven't seen 'sedatedchipmunk:' |
| 23:25.51 | bigzero | fail |
| 23:25.56 | Wobwork | bah, he's right there |
| 23:25.59 | bigzero | yup |
| 23:26.02 | bigzero | :-P |
| 23:26.05 | Ellipsis | sans : |
| 23:26.11 | Wobwork | ~seen sedatedChipmunk |
| 23:26.12 | purl | sedatedchipmunk is currently on #hosernet (14h 9m 39s) #wowace (14h 9m 39s), last said: '/msg hyperChipmunk <yourpassword>'. |
| 23:26.15 | Wobwork | good point, ta |
| 23:26.18 | CIA-4 | 03aliset * r58205 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 23:26.18 | CIA-4 | TankPoints: |
| 23:26.18 | CIA-4 | - Rare (but not rare enough) bug regarding TankPoints calculation. More information added to try to track down the bug. |
| 23:26.18 | CIA-4 | - If you are getting the "should not be nil" bug, please send your bug information to aliset@fake.domain.name. If you've seen it before, |
| 23:26.18 | Ellipsis | bahaha |
| 23:26.20 | CIA-4 | - and are still getting it, please send a new bug report with the new data. Thank you very much! |
| 23:26.22 | CIA-4 | - (users don't care) clean up CheckSourceData to easily add more info about why something happened. |
| 23:26.27 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: if a slightly modified ATI driver works (not modified to fit the card), shouldn't regular drivers work as well? |
| 23:26.29 | Wobwork | I blame tab complete |
| 23:27.09 | Arrowmaster | yes which means there must have been something wrong and those drivers never got installed properly |
| 23:28.05 | CIA-4 | 03anall * r58206 10FuBar_EpicCountFu/libs/: FuBar_EpicCountFu: Setting externals. |
| 23:28.18 | Pkekyo| | if nothing bad happens up until the point where it says "have to reboot for the changes to take effect", shouldn't everything have gone as planned? |
| 23:28.18 | Pkekyo| | I'm confused :< |
| 23:28.23 | bigzero | does that mean that sedatedChipmunk last said /msg... 14 hours ago or that he's been in the channel for 14 hours? |
| 23:28.42 | Xinhuan | the latter |
| 23:28.51 | bigzero | :-/ |
| 23:29.05 | bigzero | oh well...not like anyone cares about AceTab anyway |
| 23:29.13 | Xinhuan | why something is broken? |
| 23:29.27 | bigzero | ./print adasfa<tab> throws an error |
| 23:29.42 | fridgid | blp > tga, need a converter, anybody? |
| 23:29.43 | bigzero | trying to index 'options' a nil value |
| 23:29.57 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 23:30.25 | Xinhuan | /dump sldjkf<tab> causes the same error |
| 23:30.30 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you just love debugging, don't you |
| 23:30.46 | Xinhuan | only if its a challenge |
| 23:30.48 | Pernicius | fridgid: search at curse.com for BLPConverter-7.1 |
| 23:31.02 | Xinhuan | i don't do trivial shit |
| 23:31.04 | bigzero | i don't even know what exactly AceTab is supposed to complete |
| 23:31.06 | fridgid | is that blp > tga? i could only find tga > blp |
| 23:31.15 | Osstia | fridgid: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=1BC57070770DE8B64EBFB8DA5D453304?topicId=965751301&sid=1 |
| 23:31.20 | Pernicius | it converts anything |
| 23:31.25 | fridgid | ty |
| 23:31.33 | Xinhuan | bigzero just post about it on the "Libraries" fofum on wowace |
| 23:31.36 | Xinhuan | forum* |
| 23:31.54 | bigzero | i might just do that...so far been...lazy |
| 23:32.31 | Xinhuan | i don't have commit access to Ace2 anyway ;d |
| 23:33.14 | bigzero | that would be too dangerous, Xinhuan, you would debug everything |
| 23:33.55 | Pkekyo| | hmm...for some reason, one out of eight buttons on my mouse doesn't do anything :/ |
| 23:34.04 | Xinhuan | a guildy mailed me 5 greater holy protection pot |
| 23:34.05 | bigzero | what mouse do you use? |
| 23:34.08 | Xinhuan | not sure what to do with it |
| 23:34.28 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i accidentally made like 10 stacks of them trying to discover holy protection cauldron |
| 23:34.30 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: Logiteh MX1000 (laser) |
| 23:34.33 | bigzero | then realised it DNA |
| 23:34.37 | bigzero | DNE |
| 23:34.45 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, get uberOptions |
| 23:34.52 | Xinhuan | maybe i should just give it to my tank and say, "hey use this on maiden" |
| 23:34.55 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: what is it and what does it do? |
| 23:35.09 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, unlocks a ton more options on SetPoint |
| 23:35.23 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, that mouse owns, i have the MX revolutions too |
| 23:35.41 | fridgid | wow doesn't natively support png files does it? |
| 23:35.48 | Pkekyo| | http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040831/040831_MX1000Laser_bty.hmedium.jpg <--- I'm talking about the middle thumb-button |
| 23:35.53 | CIA-4 | 03anall * r58207 10FuBar_EpicCountFu/libs/: FuBar_EpicCountFu: Fix incorrect external line. |
| 23:36.19 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, get uberoptions |
| 23:36.20 | Xinhuan | fridgid, only TGA and BLP i think |
| 23:36.42 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: an application or wow addon? |
| 23:36.47 | bigzero | app |
| 23:36.47 | fridgid | meh, only windows tool i can find only does blp > png which is fine i guess, but itermediate formats are gay |
| 23:36.49 | bigzero | google it |
| 23:36.55 | fridgid | though i guess png isn't lossy |
| 23:37.32 | CIA-4 | 03merl * r58208 10mHud/: mHud: Updated externals |
| 23:38.29 | Pkekyo| | weird that logitech would make a button on their mouse but not include support for it in their drivers :p |
| 23:38.58 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: did you configure each button's bindings? |
| 23:39.18 | Ellipsis | I found a couple of mine didn't work until I went in and saw they were set to do nothing (or useless things) |
| 23:39.18 | Arrowmaster | what button? |
| 23:39.52 | Ellipsis | bigzero: <3 for the mx revolution btw |
| 23:40.12 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I didn't do anything, and only that button doesn't work :p |
| 23:40.27 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040831/040831_MX1000Laser_bty.hmedium.jpg the one in the middle of the back/forward buttons (thumb buttons) |
| 23:40.55 | Arrowmaster | isnt that the appswitch button? |
| 23:40.59 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: then open up setpoint, select the button, and configure it to something useful |
| 23:41.14 | Pkekyo| | "open up setpoint"? |
| 23:41.24 | Ellipsis | setpoint = logitech drivers for their mice? |
| 23:41.29 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: it looks like some sort of alt+tab replacement |
| 23:41.34 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 23:41.34 | Ellipsis | it's supposed to be |
| 23:41.40 | Ellipsis | it won't do anything if you didn't install the drivers though... |
| 23:41.52 | Pkekyo| | they're supposed to be installed |
| 23:42.02 | Ellipsis | do you have setpoint in your system tray? |
| 23:42.08 | Ellipsis | or in your start->programs? |
| 23:42.09 | Arrowmaster | did you plug it in and it worked or did you actually install software first |
| 23:42.18 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58209 10KivinSpamGuard/main.lua: |
| 23:42.18 | CIA-4 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 23:42.18 | CIA-4 | - Cleaned up notes, removed defunct debug code, removed some non release-ready code. |
| 23:42.26 | Pkekyo| | meh, can't be arsed anyways :p my left fingers need a little workout too |
| 23:42.31 | Ellipsis | ...lol |
| 23:42.33 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: I'm guessing the latter |
| 23:42.42 | Ellipsis | did you insert a CD? |
| 23:42.43 | Arrowmaster | guessing? |
| 23:42.43 | Pkekyo| | dunno really... |
| 23:42.59 | Pkekyo| | long time since I reinstalled windows |
| 23:43.03 | bigzero | Ellipsis, having half my spells bound to mouse buttons is ftw :-) |
| 23:43.08 | Ellipsis | bigzero: amen |
| 23:43.08 | Arrowmaster | start programes logitech |
| 23:43.11 | Arrowmaster | does it exist |
| 23:43.30 | dylanm | bigzero: What class? :p |
| 23:43.35 | bigzero | dylanm, mage |
| 23:43.37 | Ellipsis | 13 available buttons to bind = sexy in the pants |
| 23:43.53 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: nah |
| 23:43.53 | Ellipsis | (counting all three actions on both scroll wheels, that is) |
| 23:44.02 | Arrowmaster | then you didnt install the software |
| 23:44.04 | bigzero | Ellipsis, though the thumb scroll-click one is not very usable |
| 23:44.10 | Ellipsis | pfft, I use it all the time |
| 23:44.17 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: both scroll wheels? |
| 23:44.24 | bigzero | it gets clicked when flicking forward and back though |
| 23:44.31 | Ellipsis | forward = mount, backward = bombing quests/fishing, middle is armor spells |
| 23:44.33 | Ellipsis | not for me o.O |
| 23:44.37 | Pkekyo| | what are you lot on about? :< |
| 23:44.42 | bigzero | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,enhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,en |
| 23:44.44 | Pkekyo| | did I lose a scrollwheel? |
| 23:44.45 | bigzero | oops |
| 23:44.46 | bigzero | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,en |
| 23:44.49 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: http://www.bestconfig.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/18-mouse-mx-revolution.jpg |
| 23:45.09 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 23:45.12 | Ellipsis | wait, 15 actions |
| 23:45.15 | Ellipsis | I forgot about tilt wheel |
| 23:45.20 | Ellipsis | since I've never gotten the hang of it >_< |
| 23:45.34 | bigzero | I only see 11.. |
| 23:45.44 | bigzero | excluding the scrolling |
| 23:46.03 | Ellipsis | nvm I'm dumb, tilt wheel is already counted in the software |
| 23:46.22 | bigzero | so how many do you count now? |
| 23:46.25 | Ellipsis | 13 |
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| 23:46.56 | Ellipsis | left/right/middle, scroll up/down/left/right, taskswitcher, forward/back buttons, forward/back/click on thumb wheel |
| 23:46.58 | bigzero | hmmm...thumb scroll = 3, thumb forward, back = 2, normal clicks = 2, scrol wheel = 3 |
| 23:47.15 | bigzero | oh, well, scroll up/down doesn't count |
| 23:47.20 | Ellipsis | it does in WoW |
| 23:47.21 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 23:47.22 | bigzero | did you rebind those? |
| 23:47.40 | bigzero | well, i guess |
| 23:47.50 | Pkekyo| | I never liked the mx revolution tbh :< |
| 23:48.00 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, 'cause you only dreamt about it |
| 23:48.02 | Ellipsis | it feels horrible in my hand, but I lubs mah buttons |
| 23:48.37 | bigzero | I like the feel, the buttons, the fact that i can use it on like any surface... and because it's rechargable |
| 23:48.42 | Ellipsis | I wish it used the old MX shape tbh |
| 23:48.52 | Ellipsis | the one that the G5 has |
| 23:49.03 | bigzero | the only downside to revolutions is that it's not bluetooth |
| 23:49.07 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 23:49.16 | Ellipsis | it's my only wireless device so I could care less |
| 23:49.19 | Arrowmaster | you dont want a bluetooth mouse |
| 23:49.21 | SunTsu | I don't like the scroll wheel button, aka middle button. Sometimes it works quite well, then sometimes it is a pita to hit it right and not spin the wheel |
| 23:49.24 | Arrowmaster | they dont update fast enough |
| 23:49.24 | exor674 | lol, I don't trust anything with batteries and no cords during a raid |
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| 23:49.27 | Pkekyo| | I hate the feel of it |
| 23:49.35 | aestil | is there an aspect bar/tracking bar mod that isn't outdated somewhere? |
| 23:49.37 | Pkekyo| | MX1000 = win tbh |
| 23:49.43 | Ellipsis | I've found logitech wireless mice to be extremely reliable |
| 23:49.50 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 23:50.00 | Pkekyo| | except when it runs out of power in the middle of a bossfight :p |
| 23:50.01 | NeoTron | aestil: autobar can do that |
| 23:50.03 | exor674 | until the battery dies mid pull :P |
| 23:50.05 | aestil | i have a logitic wired mosue that i bought for my wife and my friends wife. |
| 23:50.05 | Kivin | so what's the accepted way of calculating the correct sale price in auctioneer in 2.3.2? I'm using AucClassic and it errors out |
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| 23:50.08 | Arrowmaster | all new mice seem to be such epic failure designs |
| 23:50.11 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, that sucks then.. |
| 23:50.11 | Kivin | when i hti the "UiRefresh" button |
| 23:50.12 | Ellipsis | I've never had batteries die suddenly on me |
| 23:50.14 | aestil | autobar? is it easy to set up? |
| 23:50.16 | NeoTron | I don't use wireless mouse/keyboard... |
| 23:50.21 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: That's the battery lights for ;) |
| 23:50.23 | NeoTron | aestil: install it >:-) |
| 23:50.28 | Ellipsis | I still have an MX700 that I used for like 6 years |
| 23:50.29 | aestil | i will go try that. |
| 23:50.31 | Ellipsis | on the ORIGINAL BATTERIES |
| 23:50.33 | NeoTron | although you might want to separate the hunter items to their own bar perhaps |
| 23:50.37 | bigzero | Mx rev batteries last like 2 days of constant use |
| 23:50.47 | NeoTron | it shows a lot of stuff by default (potions, bandages, mounts etc) |
| 23:50.58 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: the mouse is always planted in my palm, can't see the lights then :p |
| 23:50.59 | Ellipsis | I've forgotten to charge the revolution 2 nights in a row without problems |
| 23:51.16 | aestil | is revolution what you call your vibrating dildo? |
| 23:51.22 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 23:51.23 | bigzero | Ellipsis, and i mean constant use...like you don't let it stand by |
| 23:51.24 | aestil | BURN! |
| 23:51.35 | Ellipsis | bigzero: you gamed for 48 hours straight? |
| 23:51.36 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: You keep it there for 2 to 3 days? That's quite impressive ;) |
| 23:51.43 | aestil | WOOT! |
| 23:51.48 | aestil | I AM THE WINNER OF THIS CONVERSATION |
| 23:51.51 | Ellipsis | no |
| 23:51.52 | Ellipsis | you are fail |
| 23:51.58 | bigzero | Ellipsis, i was close...but I didn't charge it before either |
| 23:51.59 | aestil | but you've missed me all the same. |
| 23:52.00 | Ellipsis | because you are clueless as to what the conversation is actually about |
| 23:52.05 | aestil | wireless mice |
| 23:52.05 | Ellipsis | I have |
| 23:52.06 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 23:52.07 | aestil | i know. |
| 23:52.19 | aestil | but it was funny that you keep it on for 3 days and so on and so forth. |
| 23:52.20 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: what reason do I have to look at zeh mouse? how'd you figure I remember it runs on batteries BEFORE it runs out? :p |
| 23:52.30 | aestil | *sigh* i guess i amuse only myself. |
| 23:53.25 | aestil | ping nymbia |
| 23:53.28 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: My point was that you will see those lights because you don't keep it hidden in your hand from loading until the batteries are down |
| 23:53.32 | aestil | he's not here is he? |
| 23:53.44 | Ellipsis | SunTsu: the lights don't stay on, btw :P |
| 23:53.52 | Ellipsis | you have to move the mouse or hit a button to make them light up |
| 23:53.59 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: the lights timeout after two seconds inactive |
| 23:54.15 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: I know, but the don't shut off immediately you stop moving. It's 10 or 15 seconds |
| 23:54.23 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 23:54.28 | Ellipsis | they shut off *before* you stop moving |
| 23:54.31 | Pkekyo| | it's between 2 and 4 on mine |
| 23:54.42 | exor674 | why can't they make a wireless mouse that runs on the heat of your hand haha |
| 23:54.46 | exor674 | that'd be awesome |
| 23:54.48 | Ellipsis | if you move the mouse and then keep moving it, the lights fade out in a few seconds |
| 23:54.49 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: I just tested it, at my mx they stay lit 10 seconds |
| 23:54.53 | Pkekyo| | agreed, exor674 |
| 23:54.53 | Ellipsis | exor674: epic idea :P |
| 23:55.13 | Ellipsis | strange...mine last about 5 sec |
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| 23:55.39 | bigzero | 10 secs here |
| 23:55.44 | Ellipsis | I don't see anywhere to configure that |
| 23:55.50 | Ellipsis | why is mine not like yours? |
| 23:55.53 | NeoTron | just add a ball under the mouse whose sole purpose is to turn a generator to charge it |
| 23:55.55 | Pkekyo| | nor do I, but they sure doesn't last for 10sec |
| 23:56.07 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: I don't know, it's just a few days old |
| 23:56.19 | Ellipsis | I got mine for christmas |
| 23:56.40 | bigzero | got mine a year ago I think |
| 23:56.43 | SunTsu | So did I, indirectly. Got money, boght a video card and the mouse |
| 23:57.05 | Ellipsis | strange that yours behaves differently then |
| 23:57.26 | Ellipsis | I'd assume that feature is software controlled, but my drivers are up to date |
| 23:57.47 | bigzero | Ellipsis, are you using uberoptions? |
| 23:57.50 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Indeed. My mouse keeps those lights on while moving and turns them off 10 seconds after I stop the movements |
| 23:57.50 | Ellipsis | oh, speaking of software controlled: who else gets creeped out when your scroll wheel changes modes suddenly |
| 23:58.00 | Ellipsis | bigzero: nope, what does it do? |
| 23:58.02 | bigzero | i assume so, since you can't bind buttons if you don't |
| 23:58.10 | Ellipsis | ??? |
| 23:58.15 | Ellipsis | I'm using the default setpoint software for that |
| 23:58.16 | bigzero | hmm, or i thought you can't |
| 23:58.18 | Ellipsis | and it works just fine |
| 23:58.31 | bigzero | uberoptions allows you to rebind every button on the mouse |
| 23:58.31 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: It extends setpoint and you get more preconfigured settings |
| 23:58.39 | Ellipsis | so does the default, bigzero :P |
| 23:58.49 | Ellipsis | well, not left/right click |
| 23:58.50 | bigzero | maybe they changed setpoint then |
| 23:58.53 | Ellipsis | but the rest of them |
| 23:59.07 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: what do you mean "changes modes"? |
| 23:59.09 | bigzero | you used to not be able to rebing the thumb scroll |
| 23:59.22 | bigzero | rebind* |
| 23:59.25 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: the revolution has a scroll wheel that can switch between standard clicky scrolling and free-spinning scroll |
| 23:59.40 | aestil | is kotj out of date in a way that would cause problems? |
| 23:59.43 | aestil | king of the jungle |
| 23:59.44 | Ellipsis | bigzero: works fine here, set it to "multiple keystrokes" and enter the three keystroke combos in the boxes |
