| 00:00.36 | Estil | sad |
| 00:00.44 | Estil | there is no visible way to change the cd key registered with my ut3 |
| 00:00.57 | Mudkipz | reinstall it |
| 00:01.01 | Estil | that is what I am doing |
| 00:01.10 | Estil | I tried out the pirated version to see if I like it |
| 00:01.11 | Estil | found that I like it |
| 00:01.15 | Estil | so went and bought the retail version |
| 00:01.18 | Estil | now I have to reinstall it |
| 00:01.19 | Estil | :( |
| 00:01.28 | Estil | oh well |
| 00:01.28 | Mudkipz | or dive in the registry and change it there |
| 00:01.33 | Estil | can't find it |
| 00:01.37 | Estil | tried that |
| 00:02.29 | Mudkipz | http://www.getfreesofts.com/soft/547/16220/Unreal_Tournament_2003_CD_Key_Changer_11.html |
| 00:02.30 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58024 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Add delete node menuitem |
| 00:02.42 | DasFool | "Browse to the Unreal Engine configuration file found at: C:\Users\YOUR_USER\My Documents\My Games\Unreal Tournament 3\UTGame\Config\UTEngine.ini" |
| 00:02.48 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r58025 10MorgDKP/ (DKPInfo.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 00:02.48 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:02.48 | CIA-8 | - Fix lootbuffer nil error during loot recording |
| 00:02.48 | CIA-8 | - add Inraid flag for looting |
| 00:02.51 | DasFool | "Open the file, and near the end you will see this header: |
| 00:02.51 | DasFool | [OnlineSubsystemGameSpy.OnlineSubsystemGameSpy] |
| 00:02.51 | DasFool | Beneath the header lies your key, in encrypted format. |
| 00:02.57 | Estil | encrypted lol :( |
| 00:03.05 | DasFool | Remove the line that contains the key (in my case: EncryptedProductKey=001000000000208140157etc). |
| 00:03.05 | DasFool | Restart Unreal Tournament III, and it will ask you for your key. |
| 00:03.05 | DasFool | Enter your key again, and presto! You have changed your UT3 cdkey. |
| 00:03.09 | Estil | too late now though |
| 00:03.17 | Estil | I already uninstalled the old one and is reinstalling it |
| 00:03.19 | Estil | but thanks for the tips |
| 00:03.38 | DasFool | just sharing your pain? heh |
| 00:03.40 | Mudkipz | that's fine too haha |
| 00:03.43 | Estil | lol |
| 00:04.01 | Mudkipz | I need to buy new speakers when I replace this come |
| 00:04.03 | Mudkipz | comp* |
| 00:04.11 | Mudkipz | these crappy x530's are not cutting it |
| 00:04.29 | Mudkipz | I lose bass strength when I switch from 2.0 to 5.1 surround |
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| 00:04.48 | Estil | lucky you have the space to have that |
| 00:04.55 | Estil | my room is too cramped to buy anything better than 2.1 |
| 00:05.03 | Mudkipz | I'm rewatching Band of Brothers... again |
| 00:05.22 | Mudkipz | and during the artillery barrage scenes I was switching outputs |
| 00:05.31 | Mudkipz | I couldn't feel the explosions in 5.1 at all |
| 00:05.43 | Mudkipz | but in 2.0 you can't hear the whizzing sounds of bullets |
| 00:05.53 | Estil | dang |
| 00:06.02 | Mudkipz | so it's lose lose |
| 00:06.30 | Mudkipz | I give up something for another I guess. man I'm hungry |
| 00:06.53 | Estil | go eat |
| 00:07.19 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58026 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: added to recycling code |
| 00:07.38 | JoshBorke | kagaro: how close is GatherMate to being usable? |
| 00:07.48 | kagaro | getting closer |
| 00:07.52 | kagaro | working on the map pins now |
| 00:08.23 | Xinhuan | its not usable yet :) |
| 00:08.37 | Xinhuan | i'll probably be doing most of the UI frontend |
| 00:09.45 | DasFool | Do you need to run ChatFrame_AddChannel(chatFrame, "channelName") after JoinChannelByName("channelName") if you are only using the channel to sync information? |
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| 00:11.43 | JoshBorke | do you think that Astrolabe would be useful to you? |
| 00:11.54 | Xinhuan | unlikely |
| 00:12.10 | Xinhuan | how hard can X,Y coordinates be to require a library? |
| 00:12.20 | JoshBorke | oh, i was mistaken in what it does |
| 00:12.41 | kagaro | Astrolabe is a little more than I need I think |
| 00:12.51 | JoshBorke | it handles the minimap icons |
| 00:13.30 | kagaro | dinner time and raid prep back later |
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| 00:15.57 | aestil | i have like the worst caffine headache. it makes me miserable. |
| 00:16.07 | Xinhuan | drink water |
| 00:16.18 | Ellipsis | drink caffeine |
| 00:16.19 | Ellipsis | imo |
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| 00:25.30 | Tuller | hrm, I always drink caffeine if I have a headache :P |
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| 00:25.40 | mort | water is evil |
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| 00:26.54 | Amadeo | That's probably because you're getting a headache due to the withdrawal symptoms of caffeine :P |
| 00:29.25 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58027 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Implement more talents |
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| 00:33.50 | Amadeo | My new monitor finally showed up! http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gallery/4/2008/01/medium_2174486590_51dce629bf_o.jpg |
| 00:34.53 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58028 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Remove ranged stat from display if its the same as the melee stat |
| 00:37.04 | DasFool | lol, does anything even support that resolution? |
| 00:37.05 | Sole | Amadeo: ok Ive gotta say thats pretty cool but isnt the bendy thing a bit...weird? |
| 00:37.34 | Xinhuan | lua> how = 10; would = 20; how --would this work |
| 00:37.34 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "how = 10; would = 20; how --would this work"]:1: '=' expected near '<eof>' |
| 00:37.55 | Amadeo | Sole: Yeah, I read they're going to fix the seams |
| 00:38.10 | Sole | funky still |
| 00:38.21 | Amadeo | They look kinda thick though |
| 00:38.36 | Tuller | its a dlp, right? |
| 00:38.55 | Sole | hmm intertesting, using python on websites |
| 00:39.06 | Sole | guess its kinda like ruby on rails cept with python |
| 00:39.08 | Amadeo | I think it is, with LED lighting |
| 00:39.25 | Tuller | ie, a tv I want :P |
| 00:40.33 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar3 * r58029 10Prat/modules/Font.lua: Prat: Some code cleanup in the fonts module. |
| 00:40.56 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:41.03 | Amadeo | I wonder how much that'll go for |
| 00:43.21 | Tuller | $2048 |
| 00:44.36 | Sole | wow |
| 00:44.50 | Tuller | eh, I just generated a not so random number |
| 00:45.37 | Sole | lol |
| 00:45.49 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:47.32 | Amadeo | Sole: Did you hear Combuctor was coming out tonight? |
| 00:47.38 | Tuller | haha |
| 00:48.01 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 00:48.13 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r58030 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Font.lua: Prat: Some code cleanup in the fonts module in trunk copy also |
| 00:48.39 | Tuller | I'm still at the, "what should I be doing" part |
| 00:48.39 | Sole | cool |
| 00:48.49 | Tuller | its pertab filtering + other stuff, I think |
| 00:51.37 | Aeyan | You've got a new job to deal with though, right? |
| 00:52.06 | Amadeo | Tullamod Enterprise |
| 00:52.15 | Tuller | true |
| 00:54.33 | Tuller | what I want to do: resizable frame, per tab filters, and...that's about it I think :P |
| 00:55.10 | Tuller | but I've been saying that for a month or two :P |
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| 00:57.47 | Amadeo | Anyone have a character on Shadowmoon? |
| 00:58.25 | haste | (you might want to specify that you play on the US servers) |
| 00:59.09 | Sole | I could have a character on shadowmoon |
| 01:01.05 | *** join/#wowace Provus (n=UPP@ip68-97-142-183.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:01.28 | aestil | i had diarehea this morning, can't drink coffee. miserable. |
| 01:01.33 | Provus | Hay. Does anyone know an addon that will use buttons past the 120 limit that is compatible with macros? |
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| 01:04.27 | JoshBorke | Provus: flexbar |
| 01:04.56 | Provus | Flexbar2 is compatible with macros now? I never saw it mentioned in the changelog |
| 01:05.15 | JoshBorke | use the first 120 for macros ;-) |
| 01:05.29 | aestil | how could you possibly need more than 120 buttons? |
| 01:05.34 | aestil | i can't even... grasp it. |
| 01:05.35 | Provus | Friend's character |
| 01:05.50 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 01:06.02 | Provus | I either need to be able to move each button individually (pain in the ass).. or use something that has extra buttons that can use macros |
| 01:06.03 | bigzero | do we even get 120 spells/pots/stuff that we can possibly use in one fight? |
| 01:06.22 | Ellipsis | Provus, flexbar2 has been compatible with macros forever |
| 01:06.46 | Provus | No it hasn't. I used to use it. |
| 01:06.54 | Provus | I talked to cncfanatics about it, even. |
| 01:07.08 | Ellipsis | well, I use it for macros |
| 01:07.12 | Ellipsis | and have no issues with it |
| 01:07.17 | Provus | Then it wasn't mentioned in the changelog. |
| 01:07.39 | Ellipsis | there was a glitch at one point when you created new macros and they all got bumped down a slot, but he fixed that |
| 01:07.50 | Amadeo | Sole: Mine is only 24 there :P |
| 01:08.12 | Amadeo | I use /macro for macros! |
| 01:08.58 | Sole | blasphemy! |
| 01:11.04 | Sole | I need a project |
| 01:12.19 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r58031 10coolDown/ (7 files in 2 dirs): coolDown: how many complaints will I get now? |
| 01:12.19 | Sole | (Im open to wacky ideas) |
| 01:13.11 | Amadeo | Sole: I could use a new computer, if you want to start an Amadeo Fund Project :P |
| 01:14.30 | Sole | sounds great |
| 01:14.54 | Sole | I've got an idea that will get you some serious contributiosn to that project |
| 01:15.25 | Amadeo | lol |
| 01:16.16 | wereHamster | it there a chance that two spells will have the same icon? |
| 01:16.21 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 01:16.29 | Sole | yes there is |
| 01:16.31 | Sole | a high chance |
| 01:16.33 | Ellipsis | especially if buffs and debuffs count |
| 01:16.44 | wereHamster | I mean not the same rank |
| 01:16.57 | Amadeo | Sole: I'm afraid, very afraid |
| 01:17.00 | wereHamster | only spells that the user can cast, spellbook |
| 01:17.03 | Sole | Amadeo: it'l involve your body |
| 01:17.05 | Sole | Amadeo: and a website |
| 01:17.31 | Amadeo | Can I involve someone elses body, and my website? |
| 01:17.39 | Sole | Amadeo: and maybe selling yourself to perform some homoerotic activities |
| 01:18.00 | Sole | thats getting complicated now |
| 01:18.36 | Sole | wereHamster: whats the problem with two spells having the same icon? |
| 01:19.03 | wereHamster | I want to know whether that can happen.. |
| 01:19.35 | Sole | Gouge and Rend |
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| 01:19.45 | wereHamster | on one class.. |
| 01:19.50 | Amadeo | I need someone to get naked for me so I can have a new computer, PST! :P |
| 01:19.53 | wereHamster | one particular class |
| 01:20.00 | Ellipsis | wereHamster: if you count the pet spellbook, I know there is one for warlocks |
| 01:20.20 | Ellipsis | I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head though |
| 01:20.21 | Sole | well if it can then what is the big deal? |
| 01:20.28 | Sole | or do you identify a cooldown by the icon |
| 01:20.59 | wereHamster | do you really want to know? do I have to explain the whole design of my addon to you? |
| 01:21.12 | Sole | yeah ok |
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| 01:23.12 | bigzero | wereHamster, before it got changed recently, mark of the wild and gift of the wild did |
| 01:23.40 | wereHamster | butt those don't have a cooldown, right? |
| 01:23.45 | bigzero | nope |
| 01:24.01 | bigzero | but the point is, you're not guaranteed that you'll have different icons |
| 01:24.05 | Provus | Waht the heck?! He changed FlexBar2_DreamLayout? |
| 01:24.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis so how do you like what i provided you with? |
| 01:24.11 | Provus | All the buttons are small now |
| 01:25.03 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
| 01:25.22 | Ellipsis | did you send me porn? I haven't checked my email today |
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| 01:26.13 | Provus | There we go, downgreades ftw |
| 01:26.15 | Provus | downgrades* |
| 01:26.26 | Recluse | any 'minimap' bars which would force all minimap icons to be placed in a bar you could move around or something? I have a square m-map, and almost all of the icons drag in circles - drives me nuts trying to place them where they don't cover the map and they are all visible... |
| 01:26.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:25] <Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht: ? <--i was reffering to the addon you dummy |
| 01:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | or addons for that matter |
| 01:27.10 | bigzero | Recluse, fubar? |
| 01:27.59 | Recluse | non-fubar/ace'd addons won't drop their icons up there - and there's also mail, pvp, etc 'system' buttons as well |
| 01:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: try mobileminimap buttons |
| 01:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (hold for link) |
| 01:28.19 | Sole | holding |
| 01:28.21 | Sole | still holding |
| 01:28.25 | Sole | holding on forever |
| 01:28.34 | Xinhuan | don't hold your breath, its harmful to your health |
| 01:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.cosmosui.org/addons.php?info=MobileMinimapButtons |
| 01:28.53 | Sole | 1 thing I see wrong with that..its got cosmos in the url |
| 01:28.55 | sag_ich_nicht | it won't do what you want, but it will make the icons move along the minimap texture instead of in a circular motion |
| 01:28.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Sole |
| 01:28.57 | bigzero | do variables under SavedVariables in toc have to be global? |
| 01:29.01 | sag_ich_nicht | shut your fucking whoremouth |
| 01:29.04 | Xinhuan | bigzero: yes |
| 01:29.05 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't have a damn clue |
| 01:29.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and yes i am openly insulting you here. |
| 01:29.16 | bigzero | Xinhuan, but perchar ones do not, right? |
| 01:29.21 | Sole | lol I hit a nerve |
| 01:29.22 | Xinhuan | they all must be global |
| 01:29.25 | Recluse | lol yeah cosmos >.< i'll try it out and see what it's like - maybe it's what i'm looking for |
| 01:29.39 | Xinhuan | or 200 addons could declare the same local and it wouldn't know which one to save |
| 01:29.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Sole no, you just don't have a damn clue and don't know what has changed since the days of Ace1 |
| 01:29.50 | Xinhuan | or you could declare the same local 20 times in different locations |
| 01:29.54 | Xinhuan | in the same file |
| 01:29.57 | Xinhuan | with different scope |
| 01:30.13 | Sole | actually I know cosmos is much better now |
| 01:30.18 | Sole | Ive used it |
| 01:30.22 | sag_ich_nicht | +that addon is stand alone anyway |
| 01:30.33 | Sole | but Im not allowed to make jokes about how it used to be? |
| 01:30.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well, it has Sea embedded, but meh |
| 01:30.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you're not. |
| 01:30.45 | Xinhuan | end of story, a SavedVariable must be globally accessible by _G[] |
| 01:30.52 | Sole | =[ |
| 01:31.18 | Amadeo | too many libraries |
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| 01:32.05 | Recluse | sag: hrm, but just says 'drag around the minimap...adjustable radius' - really hoping for full user-defined mobility, so they aren't anchored to the m-map at all (a bt3-esque bar'd be very nice, but i dare not hold my breath) |
| 01:32.10 | kergoth | anyone knwo what event is fired when you train a new ability to your pet? |
| 01:32.21 | bigzero | ok, so then I don't see why I couldn't directly access every addon's config variables. They get saved, so they must be global |
| 01:32.21 | kergoth | i'd think LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB, but it seems to not specify what book |
| 01:32.54 | Xinhuan | i don't think it specifies, because internally wow resorts the entire pet spellbook |
| 01:33.00 | Xinhuan | and the default UI does a full 100% update |
| 01:33.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: they are anchored to it |
| 01:33.40 | Xinhuan | bigzero: correct, you can |
| 01:33.41 | kergoth | so what event is fired when the pet learns a new ability then? :P |
| 01:33.44 | kergoth | hrm |
| 01:33.50 | sag_ich_nicht | if you want to move them around completely and freely try this: http://www.cosmosui.org/addons.php?info=FluidFrames |
| 01:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | just make a keybind for it or it won't work |
| 01:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | you can move pretty much everytthing with it |
| 01:34.20 | Xinhuan | bigzero, the difference is that when it comes to acedb or rockdb savedvariables, accessing them directly by the SV name doesn't have the metatables attached |
| 01:34.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (in before people mention moveanything which doesn't work properly and taints everything) |
| 01:34.39 | Sole | kergoth: not sure about event, but if there isnt one you could theoretically read system messages and respond when you hit one which follows the "Your pet has learned the Foo(Rank x) ability" format |
| 01:35.00 | kergoth | thats true, good idea |
| 01:35.01 | Recluse | lol |
| 01:35.03 | kergoth | thanks |
| 01:35.13 | Xinhuan | when you access them "normally" through "self.db.profile" for example, that .profile[] table has metatables attached, and so has every subtable in it to refer to the actual SV table to retrieve the value in it |
| 01:35.26 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't exist, then the metatable retrieves the registered "default values" |
| 01:35.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: or try minimap button bag, check wowinterface.com for a link to it |
| 01:35.33 | sag_ich_nicht | cba to look that one up |
| 01:35.49 | Sole | kergoth: :) |
| 01:36.04 | Xinhuan | so going by the direct SV variable "could" potentially screw things up if an addon expects to find default values undefined |
| 01:36.27 | Xinhuan | as acedb doesn't save a value that is equal to the default to the SV table |
| 01:36.30 | Recluse | cba? sag: ty for the suggestions - going to test 'em here to see if they're what i'm lookin' for |
| 01:36.50 | bigzero | Xinhuan, hmmmm, tricky indeed |
| 01:36.51 | Xinhuan | the difference is that if you use pairs() to iterate over a acedb table, default values won't get iterated over |
| 01:36.57 | Xinhuan | because the table entries dont' exist |
| 01:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ~cba |
| 01:37.05 | purl | methinks cba is Can't Be Arsed. |
| 01:37.07 | Xinhuan | and only exist thru a metatable |
| 01:37.18 | Xinhuan | that's why its so tricky |
| 01:37.58 | bigzero | but, I can go through the default table first and then write over it with the current settings |
| 01:38.03 | Xinhuan | the metatable functions will create extra tables ondemand as necessary for default values specified by the ["*"] and ["**"] wildcards too |
| 01:38.03 | Sole | Tuller: out of curiosity, whats the estimated release period on Combuctor? |
| 01:38.18 | Recluse | lol |
| 01:38.19 | Tuller | when its done :) |
| 01:38.20 | Xinhuan | you can, but like i said, it is "possible" to screw something up |
| 01:38.29 | Tuller | ideally by 2.4 |
| 01:38.39 | Tuller | its just a matter of me actually coding it |
| 01:38.39 | Xinhuan | its just very very tricky |
| 01:38.41 | Xinhuan | to do it right |
| 01:38.44 | Tuller | and not getting distracted by other things :P |
| 01:38.52 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r58032 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast_CommHandlers.lua RaidCast_Config.lua): RaidCast: added SharedMedia-2.0 support. fixed RaidCast comms (oops) |
| 01:38.58 | Sole | well it looks pretty cool actually |
| 01:39.38 | Recluse | that button bag does look nice, and is pretty close to what i was envisioning - dunno it it gobbles pvp/mail m-map icons tho (will try it first :p) |
| 01:40.14 | bigzero | actually, Xinhuan, the way the addon would work is by recording the current settings, which means if something is not in the config, but is in the default it didn't get changed from the default, so there is no reason for me to record it |
| 01:40.18 | NivFreak | my minimap is way too cluttered too |
| 01:40.27 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 01:40.32 | Xinhuan | correct, but that default could change |
| 01:40.35 | Ellipsis | I just summoned a doomguard by killing a boss with CoD |
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| 01:40.41 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:40.42 | Ellipsis | and my group was like wtf? |
| 01:40.50 | NivFreak | I've seen that happen exactly once |
| 01:41.01 | NivFreak | I still wish you could cast CoD on mind controlled players |
| 01:41.03 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:41.09 | bigzero | Xinhuan, but if the default changes, then your settings would change regardless... |
| 01:41.13 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 01:41.22 | Xinhuan | hence i said it is doable, but its very tricky to implement |
| 01:41.30 | bigzero | and then you would just redo the changes and take a new snapshot |
| 01:41.34 | Xinhuan | taking the stuff out is easy |
| 01:41.37 | Xinhuan | its inserting it back that's not |
| 01:42.12 | Xinhuan | when i did _routes, i had to do deep table copying to go thru the metatable mechanism of using default values |
| 01:42.12 | bigzero | well, ok, so when inserting it back, would i need to also copy the metatables? |
| 01:42.15 | DasFool | is there an addon that makes an interactive listing of all your bag items and/or bank items in alphabetical text order? |
| 01:42.28 | Xinhuan | i dont' know the specifics |
| 01:42.39 | Xinhuan | you should ask orion |
| 01:42.49 | bigzero | k, will talk to him |
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| 01:43.32 | DasFool | i get tired of remembering items by icon and it would be nice to just be able to use everything by name instead |
| 01:43.51 | kagaro | anyone tell me why local Display = GatherMate:NewModule("Display", "AceEvent-3.0","AceTimer-3.0") fails to mixin the timer methods? |
| 01:44.11 | Recluse | DasFool: i know Posessions will 'list' em but you can't drag/use the items from it |
| 01:45.41 | Kaelten | http://pleoworld.com/ |
| 01:47.32 | DasFool | Look something like this but be able to interact with the text like normal bag contents |
| 01:47.38 | DasFool | ---------------------- |
| 01:47.38 | DasFool | |-=Bag1=- | |
| 01:47.38 | DasFool | |1xHearthstone | |
| 01:47.38 | DasFool | |5xSuper Health Potion| |
| 01:47.38 | DasFool | ---------------------- |
| 01:47.39 | DasFool | ------------------ |
| 01:47.41 | DasFool | |-=Bag2=- |
| 01:47.43 | DasFool | |20xDeadly Poison | |
| 01:47.45 | DasFool | |20xInstant Poison| |
| 01:47.46 | Amadeo | Kaelten: $350! |
| 01:47.47 | DasFool | ------------------- |
| 01:47.54 | haste | DasFool: http://pastey.net |
| 01:47.54 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58033 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Display.lua embeds.xml): GatherMate: removed tourist entry from embed.xml |
| 01:48.13 | haste | (stop living up to your nick!) |
| 01:48.22 | Kaelten | DasFool: use ace.pastey.net for things like that please |
| 01:48.22 | Recluse | haste: lol |
| 01:48.28 | Kaelten | Amadeo: hrm? |
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| 01:48.53 | Amadeo | Kaelten: That Pleo thing |
| 01:48.56 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r58034 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast_SpellConfig.lua): RaidCast: fix typo. previous commit saw correction of bug with spellcasts not hiding |
| 01:48.57 | Xinhuan | DasFool, its possible to write such an addon |
| 01:49.06 | Xinhuan | i.e the button displays text instead of a graphic icon |
| 01:49.06 | Kaelten | Amadeo: its weird sounding |
| 01:49.29 | Amadeo | Kaelten: I'll sound weird if someone will pay me $350 for it! |
| 01:49.29 | Xinhuan | but unfortunately, 99.999% of the people will agree that icons > text in terms of screenspace usage |
| 01:50.19 | Recluse | it really sounds like Posessions, but with drag/use features |
| 01:50.26 | frid | anybody know the macro you need to simulate mouse clicks |
| 01:50.28 | bigzero | UIGnome...i think the name's kinda cheap, but I can't come up with something better. Plus the addon will be much like closetgnome in a sense |
| 01:51.13 | frid | aka i use click casting almost exclusively for raid healing, and my click fingers get tired sometime, and a friend said you can make macros so you can just move your mouse over it, and then click the macro and its the same as if you clicked |
| 01:52.01 | Recluse | ? /cast [target=mouseover] Flash Heal |
| 01:52.09 | frid | hmm |
| 01:52.22 | frid | there isn't like a /click or something? |
| 01:53.38 | DasFool | hmm, maybe i can add something into Posessions |
| 01:54.20 | Lukian | hmm that tankpoints addon works nicely |
| 01:54.55 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r58035 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: implemented grow up option for spellcasts |
| 01:55.31 | Recluse | frid: i've no knowledge of /click use in macros, but wouldn't it be similar, with the mouseover conditional? |
| 01:55.57 | frid | i could've misunderstood him, and he perhaps was using a target=mouseover modifier |
| 01:56.04 | frid | but it would be very handy : / |
| 01:56.08 | frid | not sure |
| 01:56.38 | frid | ideally i want something like /clickprimary and it would be the same as it i clicked my left mouse button |
| 01:56.52 | bigzero | maybe you can map a mouse click to a keyboard key in your os? |
| 01:57.20 | frid | hmm instresting idea |
| 01:57.24 | frid | i'll play with it |
| 01:57.35 | frid | i just thought it was possible via lua |
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| 01:58.26 | Recluse | frid: or something? XD /click [button:1][target=mouseover] Flash Heal i've just never used /click and have no idea how it operates |
| 01:59.01 | frid | well i have frames that use click casting so ideally it would not use a static spell/operation |
| 01:59.14 | frid | just like a /click [button:1] would be tits |
| 01:59.17 | DasFool | ugh, this is making me crazy. |
| 01:59.22 | frid | anybody know whre i can find the syntax for /click? |
| 01:59.36 | Recluse | wowwiki perhaps |
| 02:00.14 | DasFool | JoinChannelByName("channelName") works fine. it joins the channel and i can interact with it, but the channel isn't saved when i log out |
| 02:00.43 | DasFool | that isn't how it's supposed to be working right? |
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| 02:01.47 | kagaro | nevcairiel: ping |
| 02:02.08 | Xinhuan | that is how it is working DasFool |
| 02:02.18 | Xinhuan | it only saves if you joined it by the normal way |
| 02:02.26 | Xinhuan | i.e did /join |
| 02:02.36 | DasFool | is that intended or is it something that is it a bug? |
| 02:02.38 | Xinhuan | and the default UI runs through a bunch of code to save it |
| 02:02.53 | DasFool | ick, i mean or is it a bug? |
| 02:02.55 | Xinhuan | you joined it by a direct function that didn't pass through the default UI code that saves it |
| 02:03.15 | DasFool | is there a better function to use to join a channel? |
| 02:03.20 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 02:03.26 | DasFool | hmm |
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| 02:03.39 | Xinhuan | there's probably functions on a slightly higher level |
| 02:04.05 | Xinhuan | you'll have to look in chatframe.lua and fcf.lua |
| 02:04.26 | DasFool | i've used the joinchannelbyname in the past and it worked fine |
| 02:04.48 | DasFool | i guess they changed something semi-recently with it |
| 02:07.03 | DasFool | is there somewhere i can find chatframe.lua to play with? or do i need to extract it myself? |
| 02:07.10 | Xinhuan | extract yourself |
| 02:07.19 | Xinhuan | or |
| 02:07.20 | Xinhuan | ~wdn |
| 02:07.21 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 02:08.03 | Xinhuan | i assume you know programming |
| 02:08.05 | DasFool | ah, thanks, i appreciate your help |
| 02:08.11 | Xinhuan | or you won't really learn anything from it |
| 02:08.35 | DasFool | yeah i do, i'm maintaining a mod that was working but has that strange issue now |
| 02:09.58 | DasFool | i can create a function that will join the channel on login, but that seems hacky |
| 02:10.17 | Sole | hey this is kinda cool - http://barracudaserver.com/doc/Lua/ |
| 02:10.24 | Sole | lua driven websites |
| 02:11.59 | bigzero | anyone know if you can have more than one addon with the same name? |
| 02:12.25 | bigzero | somehow...although the folder structure should not alow it |
| 02:12.26 | Sole | you mean different folder names but the same name given in the toc? |
| 02:12.56 | bigzero | i mean addon with the same name in the Addon list in the game |
| 02:13.13 | DasFool | hmm, i found JoinPermanentChannel(). time to give that a try |
| 02:13.55 | bigzero | nvm, i don't think it's possible...not the name i'm thinking of anyway |
| 02:14.41 | Xinhuan | just give it the same ## Title: |
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| 02:15.12 | Xinhuan | but that's only the title text |
| 02:15.19 | Xinhuan | the addon is still identified by its folder name |
| 02:15.43 | bigzero | right, i was thinking of the name returned by GetAddonInfo |
| 02:15.47 | bigzero | which is the folder name |
| 02:17.51 | NeoTron | so a tank saying it's not a good idea to have "shield block" on a hotkey (vs mouse click) because it's "difficult" to press it while moving away from fire |
| 02:17.54 | NeoTron | .. |
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| 02:19.19 | bigzero | well, depends on where he places the spell |
| 02:19.22 | Sole | ... |
| 02:19.25 | bigzero | if it's like = |
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| 02:19.31 | bigzero | then lol...he fails anyway |
| 02:19.50 | NeoTron | it's like tear of the goddess on archi |
| 02:19.57 | NeoTron | I put it on "1" so I make sure not to fail |
| 02:19.59 | bigzero | imo everything should be hotkeyed |
| 02:20.08 | Sole | warrior keybinds are especially easy too |
| 02:20.18 | NeoTron | how can it possibly be easier to move the mouse and click (on a 1.5 second cast) than press a hot key? |
| 02:20.22 | Sole | because you just reuse them for different stances |
| 02:20.29 | bigzero | 2 is kinda hard hard to press while moving backwards though, so that would not work too well |
| 02:20.35 | bigzero | same with 3 |
| 02:20.57 | DasFool | sweet! JoinPermanentChannel() works like JoinChannelByName() used to :) |
| 02:20.59 | Sole | but E, R, F, T, G, Q, Z, X, C, V, B aren't |
| 02:21.09 | Sole | add shift/alt alternatives |
| 02:21.20 | NeoTron | I use a mouse/keyboard combo to move |
| 02:21.21 | DasFool | thanks for your help Xinhuan |
| 02:21.37 | NeoTron | typicall turning with the mouse, moving with keybard.. and I can't see how it'd be hard to find a key you can press while moving |
| 02:21.43 | Sole | I assume most people do |
| 02:21.49 | wereHamster | what's JoinPermanentChannel for? |
| 02:22.04 | bigzero | but then if you bind it to like alt+r...that could cause problems...you forget to press alt or just don't press it on accident and you end up typing the rest of your stuff...gg right there |
| 02:22.13 | Sole | joining a chat channel and staying in it after logout I would assume |
| 02:22.23 | DasFool | Sole: correct |
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| 02:23.02 | NeoTron | anyone here ever MT'd illidan? |
| 02:23.02 | Sole | I dont have R bound to reply |
| 02:23.11 | Sole | its bound to rupture |
| 02:23.34 | NeoTron | to me it really doesn't seem THAT complex but I've only tanked Kara/ZA |
| 02:23.39 | bigzero | Does anyone ever get the camera view messed up so that it always go back to like looking at you from the side..then you have to right-click move to get it to reset to normal position? |
| 02:23.55 | bigzero | annoys me sooo much |
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| 02:24.16 | Sole | nope |
| 02:24.27 | Sole | but I turned off automatic camera positioning long ago |
| 02:24.31 | Sole | because that annoyed me |
| 02:24.39 | Ellipsis | bigzero: yeah a couple patches ago the "smart" camera follow stopped working |
| 02:24.50 | bigzero | ah, I like that feature, just not when it decides that I need to be looking at myself |
| 02:25.14 | Sole | I like it also, but there were moments in pvp where I'd have to keep my camera looking behind me |
| 02:25.20 | Sole | while autorunning |
| 02:25.36 | bigzero | Ellipsis, any word on them trying to fix it? |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r58036 10coolDown/ (coolDownConfig.lua coolDownState.lua): coolDown: ... |
| 02:26.04 | Sole | wereHamster: awesome changelog :P |
| 02:26.21 | wereHamster | thanks, you're welcome |
| 02:26.34 | bigzero | so what did you change? |
| 02:26.50 | wereHamster | uhm.. you know.. stuff and such |
| 02:27.35 | wereHamster | most certainly broke a few things |
| 02:27.48 | wereHamster | not that I would care, really.. |
| 02:29.14 | bigzero | was gonna say, such isn't working right now....but stuff looks fine |
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| 02:35.45 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58037 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: trying multi embeds again |
| 02:37.34 | kagaro | ping nevcairiel |
| 02:38.47 | aestil | guys, what kind of wireless security do i use to connect my DS to my router? |
| 02:39.25 | Stanzilla | WPA |
| 02:39.33 | exor674 | aestil: nintendo DS? pretty sure is WPA only |
| 02:41.27 | aestil | i'm using WPA pre shared key right now, and the DS says I'm using something i can't connect to. |
| 02:42.08 | aestil | i have some options. WPA RADIUS |
| 02:42.31 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58038 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: cut and paste error |
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| 02:48.31 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: wasn't my fault after all,... :p but the problem is still there, should not have to enable the raid frames to get rid of the party frames in bg's.... especially when they hide fine in a normal raid... |
| 02:49.27 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: true. you have 2 options |
| 02:49.34 | Stanzilla | 1: add a jira ticket an prey |
| 02:49.37 | Stanzilla | 2: poke ckknight |
| 02:49.45 | Tinyboom | already poked, didn't work:p |
| 02:49.45 | Stanzilla | (and prey) |
| 02:49.51 | Tinyboom | still praying :p |
| 02:50.11 | Stanzilla | make a jira ticket then :) |
| 02:50.17 | Tinyboom | already done:p |
| 02:50.22 | Stanzilla | hm |
| 02:50.32 | Tinyboom | so now i sleep :p |
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| 02:50.47 | Stanzilla | kk^^ |
| 02:50.54 | Tinyboom | gonna post a Screenie tomorrow and attach it to the ticket:) |
| 02:51.12 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 02:51.23 | Tinyboom | seems pitbull isn't detecting a bg raid as a raid like it should be:) |
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| 02:52.06 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r58039 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: added center text (which contains spell name for now) |
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| 02:57.36 | Ellipsis | what are teh trinket slot numbers for /use? |
| 02:57.44 | Xinhuan | 13, 14 |
| 02:57.46 | Ellipsis | ty |
| 02:57.56 | NeoTron | exor674: I connected to my wireless network using WEP |
| 02:58.02 | NeoTron | so doubt it's WPA only |
| 02:58.47 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58041 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: update constants |
| 03:06.25 | thul | well, I'm going to egypt :-P |
| 03:06.27 | thul | wish me luck :-D |
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| 03:07.21 | Amadeo | thul: Find Atlantis |
| 03:07.44 | Amadeo | The secret is under the Sphinx's right paw |
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| 03:11.27 | exor674 | Imeant WEP haha |
| 03:11.36 | exor674 | my mind gets acronyms confused D |
| 03:11.50 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r58043 10/branches/UIGnome/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:11.50 | CIA-8 | UIGnome: |
| 03:11.50 | CIA-8 | - UI layout/config manager |
| 03:11.50 | CIA-8 | - just starting. nothing usable yet |
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| 03:14.56 | CIA-8 | UIGnome: |
| 03:14.56 | CIA-8 | - externals set |
| 03:16.26 | bigzero | anyone know why I would have AceEvent methods in my addon object if I just do AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0") |
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| 03:19.12 | Keias | So I just saw a Dreanei with the mount off Baron Rivendare in Stratholme |
| 03:19.25 | Keias | and I dunno if I should be impressed, jealous, or feel sad for the guy |
| 03:19.37 | bigzero | impressed |
| 03:19.39 | bigzero | imo |
| 03:19.45 | bigzero | and jealous |
| 03:19.53 | bigzero | i would be |
| 03:20.40 | kergoth | definately impressed and jealous |
| 03:21.41 | Xinhuan | bigzero, you have :Setmodulemixins() ? |
| 03:21.48 | Xinhuan | dunno just guessing! |
| 03:21.57 | Amadeo | I'm more jealous of those who have the old school epic mounts |
| 03:22.04 | Amadeo | I like those more than I like any mount in the game |
| 03:22.20 | Amadeo | I would have one if I ever had enough money to buy one back then :P |
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| 03:22.57 | bigzero | rivendares mount is almost as good as the AQ gate opening mount |
| 03:23.17 | bigzero | in terms of how hard it is to get it |
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| 03:25.58 | Keias | Same for me on the Ivory Raptor, Amadeo :( |
| 03:26.06 | Amadeo | hehe |
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| 03:26.37 | bigzero | http://wowace.pastey.net/80294 is all i have, and I kinda realize that AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0") by itself is not supposed to return the addon object..you need the :new(), right? but regardless, i was surprised to see that AceEvent methods were in the table returned by AceLibrary call |
| 03:28.11 | exor674 | probably because AceAddon uses AceEvent itself? |
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| 03:30.25 | bigzero | I wasn't expectin it to, hence the surprise. So basically if you're writting an Ace2 addon you need to embed AceLibrary, AceOO, AceAddon, AceEvent? just for the barebone addon? |
| 03:31.06 | Xinhuan | Yes |
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| 03:31.37 | Xinhuan | because AceAddon uses OnEnable, OnInitialize which are based on the PLAYER_LOGIN and ADDON_LOADED events |
| 03:31.44 | Xinhuan | respectively |
| 03:32.23 | Xinhuan | which is pretty much why using ace2 is overkill half the time |
| 03:33.56 | ckknight | basically, Ace2 modularizes itself to the extreme |
| 03:34.04 | ckknight | but does so in a manner that is arguably poor |
| 03:34.17 | ckknight | as can be seen in the example just given |
| 03:34.27 | bigzero | idk...using AceEvent in AceAddon is an overkill imo...why not use AceLocale too, i mean you do have localizations in there as well |
| 03:35.26 | bigzero | ckknight, rock looking any better? |
| 03:35.39 | ckknight | yes, that was one thing I fixed |
| 03:36.11 | ckknight | basically, to write a simple Rock mod, the only library you need in LibRock-1.0 |
| 03:36.20 | ckknight | for extra features, you can get the event lib, timer lib, etc. |
| 03:36.30 | ckknight | s/in/is |
| 03:36.36 | bigzero | there we, i like that much better |
| 03:37.03 | bigzero | took me forever to figure out that AceDB (or was it something else) uses AceEvents as well |
| 03:37.21 | ckknight | hehe, yea, for PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 03:37.26 | ckknight | and PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 03:37.35 | ckknight | actually, no, ADDON_LOADED |
| 03:38.30 | ckknight | that was the design I was told should be implemented |
| 03:38.34 | ckknight | so I went with it |
| 03:41.25 | bigzero | ugh, I hate making GUIs :-( |
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| 03:48.01 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 03:48.21 | Ellipsis | you know what's worse than doing the netherwing races? |
| 03:48.32 | Ellipsis | doing the netherwing races on a second character |
| 03:49.09 | bigzero | Ellipsis, I gave up on the last race.. |
| 03:49.57 | Ellipsis | I finished it on my main |
| 03:50.04 | Lukian | Ellipsis, ahaha XD |
| 03:50.40 | Lukian | Ellipsis, That would be more funny if your main was a druid ^_^ |
| 03:50.47 | Ellipsis | nah |
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| 03:51.06 | Ellipsis | durids are ezmode for this :( |
| 03:51.27 | bigzero | anyone know a way to get the OptionalDeps for an addon? GetAddonMetadata doesn't seem to work...neither does GetAddOnDependencies |
| 03:52.15 | Amadeo | I love my Druid, I should have been playing one all along |
| 03:52.26 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58045 10/branches/GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: Stub for config |
| 03:53.12 | Aens|Superiority | Amadeo: druids are fun at low gear levels. They lend themselves great for casual play. |
| 03:53.52 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: you cant |
| 03:53.53 | Aens|Superiority | Amadeo: but if you want to min/max, druids have some of the worst gear scaling issues outside of resto. |
| 03:54.02 | Amadeo | Yeah, I'm only 24 right now and my gear is horrible, but I destroy everyone |
| 03:54.42 | Amadeo | I'm probably just always going to be Feral, I don't plan on Arenas or anything, unless I just get some gear from it |
| 03:54.50 | Amadeo | just to screw around, BG, whatever |
| 03:55.46 | Amadeo | I can't believe they get a talent that takes 18 energy off of Shred |
| 03:58.13 | kergoth | are there any decent guides to this secure state header crap? |
| 03:59.13 | haste | nope |
| 03:59.16 | haste | enjoy reading the lua |
| 03:59.57 | Ellipsis | wowwiki has a basic one |
| 04:00.04 | Ellipsis | but the comments in the templates are pretty much it |
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| 04:01.56 | CIA-8 | oRA2_PvPDetection: |
| 04:01.56 | CIA-8 | - Directory create |
| 04:01.57 | haste | kergoth: iriel had a actionbutton test during beta (it's probably still on WoWI) |
| 04:02.38 | kergoth | ah wow, i think i'm actually understanding this crap finally |
| 04:02.47 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, bah...i think i can live without it, though that sucks |
| 04:02.53 | kergoth | damn those docs & comments are weak :P |
| 04:03.10 | haste | half the fun! |
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| 04:06.04 | Ellipsis | o rly? world of starcraft? |
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| 04:07.06 | Provus | Hey is Shadowed here? I want to know how the heck you're supposed to hide the big S and B tabs that the buffs and interrupts are on. |
| 04:07.23 | Provus | The 'Show Timers Anchor' option doesn't seem to do anything |
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| 04:13.49 | dezzi | Notice: Treadmills put out a shitload of electrical interference and do not play nicely with networking equipment. |
| 04:14.07 | ckknight | hrm, didn't know that |
| 04:14.13 | Dezzimal | yea |
| 04:14.19 | Dezzimal | variable speed electrical motors |
| 04:15.00 | Dezzimal | I should really insulate the phone line coming out of the modem |
| 04:15.19 | Fisker- | i'm gonna insulate your mother |
| 04:15.20 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 04:15.32 | Dezzimal | actually its inseminate |
| 04:15.35 | haste | Fisker-: wat |
| 04:15.36 | Dezzimal | but w/e |
| 04:15.55 | Fisker- | hai haste |
| 04:17.19 | Recluse | insulate o.O |
| 04:18.04 | haste | Fisker-: hai, soon 59 now |
| 04:18.25 | Fisker- | :O |
| 04:18.29 | Fisker- | soon work |
| 04:18.32 | Fisker- | but i'm tired |
| 04:18.32 | Fisker- | :( |
| 04:18.34 | Fisker- | your fault |
| 04:18.45 | haste | usux |
| 04:19.35 | Fisker- | raw |
| 04:19.40 | Fisker- | rawr* |
| 04:19.46 | Fisker- | extended maintanence on US servers |
| 04:19.49 | Fisker- | do want patch |
| 04:19.59 | Fisker- | and your mother lolol |
| 04:20.02 | Fisker- | bai |
| 04:20.15 | haste | what encoding does chinese windows abuse on files :p ? |
| 04:20.33 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58047 10oRA2_PvPDetection/ (Pvp.lua oRA2_PvPDetection.toc): |
| 04:20.33 | CIA-8 | oRA2_PvPDetection: |
| 04:20.33 | CIA-8 | - Initial import. |
| 04:20.33 | CIA-8 | - This mod will give you a zonecheck-like interface to check for PvP flags. |
| 04:20.33 | CIA-8 | - If raiders have this module, it will tell you if they're permaflagged, as well. |
| 04:20.40 | haste | guess I'll just have to write a script to recode this into sanity... |
| 04:22.34 | bigzero | permaflagged? |
| 04:22.36 | Amadeo | Whatever new MMO Blizzard is making, you can bet they announce it right around when Warhammer gets released |
| 04:24.46 | Megalon | bigzero: you can flag yourself for pvp, which is then permanent until you turn it off yourself |
| 04:25.22 | Megalon | e.g. you want loose the pvp-flag if you idle in ogrimmar like you do normaly |
| 04:26.12 | Megalon | s/loose/lose/ |
| 04:26.13 | Megalon | .x |
| 04:26.25 | Fisker- | why Amadeo? |
| 04:27.19 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: it was leaked today |
| 04:27.23 | Ellipsis | it's starcraft |
| 04:27.50 | Fisker- | your mother Ellipsis |
| 04:28.00 | Ellipsis | ew |
| 04:28.22 | ckknight | oh man, I wanna play Universe of Starcraft |
| 04:28.48 | Sole | Im hoping its starcraft |
| 04:28.59 | Amadeo | It's not StarCraft |
| 04:29.04 | ckknight | is there a link to any news of this? |
| 04:29.09 | Sole | it doesnt matter much anyway, warhammer is rubbish |
| 04:29.14 | ckknight | World of The Lost Vikings |
| 04:29.16 | Sole | speaking from first hand experience |
| 04:29.17 | Fisker- | definitely Sole |
| 04:29.21 | ckknight | World of Rock and Roll Racing |
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| 04:29.24 | Fisker- | speaking from BEING FUCKING AWESOME |
| 04:29.27 | Amadeo | Fisker-: To get people excited about a new Blizzard MMO so that they keep giving Blizzard money :P |
| 04:29.32 | Fisker- | World of NEW IP |
| 04:29.34 | Megalon | i would so play |
| 04:29.40 | ckknight | Fisker-: ooh |
| 04:29.40 | Megalon | world of rock'n'roll racing |
| 04:29.40 | Sole | Fisker-: thank you, I get that compliment a lot |
| 04:29.45 | Fisker- | Amadeo warhammer is shit, and so is your mother |
| 04:29.50 | Amadeo | I read recently that Blizzard registered some Diablo III domain, I'm not sure if that means an MMO or not |
| 04:30.04 | Sole | theyve had starcraft 2 domain registered since 97 |
| 04:30.12 | Sole | I think |
| 04:30.13 | Megalon | and so did they for diablo3 i think |
| 04:30.18 | ckknight | Amadeo: issue I see with that is that there is no great enemy in Diablo that hasn't been defeated |
| 04:30.19 | Fisker- | they don't got diablo3 :P |
| 04:30.46 | Amadeo | ckknight: Yeah, I think if they did a Diablo they should keep it the same type of game, especially since Hellgate bombed |
| 04:30.53 | Fisker- | bai |
| 04:30.57 | Amadeo | In all honesty, I hope they just invent a new MMO from the ground up |
| 04:30.58 | Sole | hellgate...terribad |
| 04:31.02 | Amadeo | I don't want another sequel |
| 04:31.07 | ckknight | Amadeo: that would be good, imho |
| 04:31.08 | Sole | me too actually |
| 04:31.13 | Sole | although starcraft IS cool |
| 04:31.24 | ckknight | I'd rather play SC2 as an RTS |
| 04:31.26 | ckknight | and keep it RTS |
| 04:31.29 | Amadeo | StarCraft seems like it would be hard to do, unless it's going to be an MMOFPS |
| 04:31.32 | Sole | true that |
| 04:31.39 | TecnoBrat | it'll be diablo if anything ... |
| 04:31.48 | ckknight | TecnoBrat: or new IP |
| 04:31.55 | TecnoBrat | or new, yea |
| 04:32.07 | Amadeo | Diablo just seems like a WoW competitor to me, that's the only thing...yeah I know the money goes to the same place, but that just means more resources for the same customer base |
| 04:32.30 | Sole | WoW 2! |
| 04:32.41 | ckknight | we already have WoW 2 |
| 04:32.45 | Sole | unlikely but I had to be unique |
| 04:32.49 | Sole | because Im a snowflake |
| 04:32.58 | Amadeo | I could see Blizzard announcing something like WoW 2, for release in 2020 :P |
| 04:33.03 | Sole | yeah |
| 04:33.11 | Sole | with MMOs they can just keep pumping out expansions |
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| 04:33.22 | Sole | with graphic updates |
| 04:33.26 | ckknight | you're not a snowflake, you can be categorized and broken down as anyone |
| 04:33.46 | Sole | speaking of which, Ive got a suspicion that warhammer is built on the DAOC engine |
| 04:33.56 | Amadeo | It probably is, heavily modified |
| 04:33.57 | TecnoBrat | Amadeo, its a nextgen MMO |
| 04:34.00 | Amadeo | but it looks pretty good |
| 04:34.01 | ircleuser | hello all I am noob to addons and ace. I have a question about the tutorial |
| 04:34.05 | TecnoBrat | So it WILL be wow's competitor |
| 04:34.14 | TecnoBrat | thats the definition of nextgen mmo :P |
| 04:34.35 | Sole | it sure as hell doesnt look, feel or play like nextgen at the moment though |
| 04:34.48 | TecnoBrat | Sole, I mean the mmo that blizzard will release |
| 04:34.48 | Amadeo | Sole: I think he means Blizzard's |
| 04:34.55 | Somefellow | oh yeah |
| 04:35.11 | Somefellow | wait, Im not sole |
| 04:35.17 | Somefellow | forget sole ever discussed warhammer |
| 04:35.19 | TecnoBrat | Amadeo was saying that it won't be diablo, cause that will be a competitor to wow |
| 04:35.26 | ircleuser | well, second parts demonstrates how to setup slash commands etc. When I demo it in game I can set the value of the option but it never displays properly. Only says whats the option is set too and does not display when I type the option |
| 04:35.34 | Amadeo | Well if they plan on bringing it out that much later, it probably will be a Diablo-based game |
| 04:35.57 | Amadeo | Which makes me sad, because all of the original Diablo developers are gone...ok, maybe not all, but all the good ones :P |
| 04:36.08 | Somefellow | it might be a different MMO genre, so as not directly compete with WoW |
| 04:36.36 | ckknight | maybe so |
| 04:36.51 | ckknight | they could make an open-ended game like Second Life |
| 04:36.51 | Ellipsis | um |
| 04:36.55 | Ellipsis | that's why it's starcraft |
| 04:36.59 | Somefellow | Amadeo: if theyre so good then why is hellgate so ass? :P |
| 04:37.00 | Ellipsis | google "world of starcraft" people |
| 04:37.08 | TecnoBrat | Amadeo, play Mythos .. its diablo .. like ... completely |
| 04:37.18 | Amadeo | I can't imagine they're going to make StarCraft II and an MMO at the same time |
| 04:37.26 | TecnoBrat | Amadeo, they are |
| 04:37.29 | Ellipsis | the MMO is much later |
| 04:37.31 | Somefellow | wtf |
| 04:37.34 | Somefellow | blizzard domain |
| 04:37.35 | Mudkipz | why you think blizzard did merger |
| 04:37.38 | Mudkipz | with who again? |
| 04:37.38 | Amadeo | I mean a StarCraft MMO along with StarCraft II, TecnoBrat |
| 04:37.49 | TecnoBrat | Oh, yea, neither can I |
| 04:37.53 | ircleuser | can anyone help me understand this tutorial a bit? |
| 04:38.02 | Amadeo | If they bring back a sequel, it'll be Diablo |
| 04:38.11 | Somefellow | ircleuser, whats wrong? |
| 04:38.18 | TecnoBrat | I'm actually hoping for a new game |
| 04:38.18 | kebinusan | I cant see the starcraft universe being rich enough for a mmo |
| 04:38.20 | TecnoBrat | brand new |
| 04:38.32 | ircleuser | I am going through the tutorial off the site , and I am not sure its working like it says it should |
| 04:38.41 | TecnoBrat | kebinusan, and warcraft was? |
| 04:38.47 | Amadeo | kebinusan: It would make a fun MMOFPS :) |
| 04:39.02 | kebinusan | amadeo ala planetside yah |
| 04:39.06 | Somefellow | I can see it now |
| 04:39.13 | Somefellow | people fighting |
| 04:39.22 | Amadeo | Hellgate probably sucked because they had no money |
| 04:39.28 | Somefellow | then some player just runs out screaming "ILL ZERG YO FASE" |
| 04:39.38 | TecnoBrat | the gameplay was weird for me |
| 04:39.42 | TecnoBrat | Hellgate that is |
| 04:39.47 | Somefellow | Im with TecnoBrat on that one |
| 04:39.47 | TecnoBrat | thats what lost me |
| 04:39.58 | ircleuser | SomeFellow: I am doing the section on setting up slash commands with a options table. |
| 04:40.00 | Somefellow | it was like diablo, yet it felt awkward |
| 04:40.09 | TecnoBrat | Mythos is awesome tho |
| 04:40.11 | Somefellow | ircleuser: copy paste yo :D |
| 04:40.13 | TecnoBrat | I've been playing the beta |
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| 04:40.18 | TecnoBrat | if you liked Diablo, you will love it |
| 04:40.40 | ircleuser | SomeFello:When I type in the slash command there are two methods that were created to set and to get the msg text |
| 04:40.41 | Somefellow | ircleuser: seriously though, give us a pastey http://ace.pastey.net so we can see what youre doing and tell us whats wrong with it |
| 04:41.07 | Somefellow | the only MMO Im looking forward to right now is age of conan |
| 04:41.07 | ircleuser | Paste the entire file? sorry I am new to irc also... |
| 04:41.12 | Somefellow | provided its not just all hype |
| 04:41.26 | Somefellow | paste the section of code you're working with |
| 04:41.40 | TecnoBrat | Unfortunately like all of the mmos that have been released are mainly hype |
| 04:41.52 | Somefellow | anybody here play Horizons? |
| 04:42.12 | Somefellow | that promised to be a great game |
| 04:42.25 | TecnoBrat | my friend was all hyped about guild wars |
| 04:42.36 | TecnoBrat | I played the openbeta, stopped playing right there |
| 04:42.37 | Bruners | hellgate would be good if all the bugs where removed |
| 04:42.46 | TecnoBrat | when I played wow beta, I got hooked immediately |
| 04:42.48 | Somefellow | they just forgot to tell us that they kinda shipped it in beta instead of holding off a few months to actually include the features which were the selling points of the game |
| 04:43.13 | Somefellow | had a good crafting system though |
| 04:43.29 | TecnoBrat | I'm not a crafter |
| 04:43.36 | Somefellow | neither actually |
| 04:43.52 | TecnoBrat | I enjoyed raiding when I played wow, except they honestly killed it when they moved to 25 mans and all of the fricken attunements |
| 04:44.10 | TecnoBrat | it turned into more of a job than when I raided naxx, aq40, etc |
| 04:44.20 | Somefellow | Ive just stopped caring about it |
| 04:44.35 | ircleuser | http://ace.pastey.net/80302 |
| 04:44.40 | Somefellow | the time required to raid properly these days is beyond me |
| 04:44.47 | TecnoBrat | I stopped playing because of the time required |
| 04:45.00 | TecnoBrat | I couldn't dedicate that much time each night anymore |
| 04:45.06 | Somefellow | yep |
| 04:45.13 | TecnoBrat | we were raiding 5 nights a week, for 4-5 hours each night |
| 04:45.20 | Somefellow | ouch |
| 04:45.24 | Bruners | is it possible to do http://www.variuse.de/feroxtgs2/ |
| 04:45.26 | Bruners | ? |
| 04:45.43 | TecnoBrat | We were 1/2 way through BT when I stopped playing |
| 04:46.20 | TecnoBrat | my fun / feels like work factor was going the wrong way, heh |
| 04:46.20 | ircleuser | SomeFellow: Ok did you see the code? |
| 04:46.28 | Somefellow | ircleuser: looking through it now |
| 04:46.38 | Somefellow | ircleuser: whats the problem you're getting in game? |
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| 04:49.12 | ircleuser | well, from the directions I am suppose to be able to type /wh msg and get back the value of the msg variable. I should also be able to set the variable by typing /wn msg <mynewvalue>. When I do that it does tell me it set to a new value but when I type /wh msg again I get the old value, and another line that says the value is set to the new one.. man this is cryptic.. I hope I explained ok... |
| 04:52.18 | Somefellow | hang on gotta make a call |
| 04:52.20 | Somefellow | I'll take a look |
| 04:52.41 | kergoth | man i sell a lot of glowin gnightseyes |
| 05:14.27 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58048 10oRA2_PvPDetection/ (Pvp.lua oRA2_PvPDetection.toc): |
| 05:14.27 | CIA-8 | oRA2_PvPDetection: |
| 05:14.27 | CIA-8 | - svn properties update |
| 05:19.12 | Somefellow | ircleuser: sorry just got back, have you tried replacing the get and set values with a function instead of a method name? |
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| 05:28.06 | ircleuser | Sole did you look at the code |
| 05:28.14 | Sole | ircleuser: yes |
| 05:28.33 | ircleuser | No, I am a newbie and I was just following the tutorial... |
| 05:29.03 | Sole | ircleuser: try this: http://ace.pastey.net/80307 |
| 05:29.03 | ircleuser | I think they are trying to overload the existing methods am I correct? |
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| 05:29.50 | Sole | that eliminates any possibility of the value not being set properly |
| 05:31.51 | ircleuser | connect to site is slow, haven't seen the code yet.. |
| 05:32.02 | fridgid | how much spell crit rating = 1% at 70? |
| 05:32.05 | fridgid | 21? |
| 05:32.47 | Megalon | ~22 |
| 05:32.52 | Ellipsis | 22.1 |
| 05:32.53 | Megalon | 22.1 i think |
| 05:32.55 | Megalon | yay |
| 05:32.55 | fridgid | ty |
| 05:33.22 | ircleuser | Sole: so with this code is this considered a lambda function? |
| 05:33.48 | Sole | ircleuser: didnt you say you were a newbie? :P |
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| 05:34.55 | ircleuser | Well newbie to ace2 and lua programming but I am a scripter and somewhat develop code using different languages.. so I know some stuff but master at nothing... |
| 05:38.54 | ircleuser | so are these considered lambda? they way you have them...? |
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| 05:45.56 | ircleuser | Sole? |
| 05:46.43 | Sole | ha wha |
| 05:46.47 | Sole | oh that |
| 05:47.22 | Sole | no idea, Im not familiar with lambda, outside of physics that is |
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| 05:52.50 | potemkin | whats a program that lets you look through blizzard files |
| 05:52.54 | potemkin | i want to find some icon paths |
| 05:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean mpqs? |
| 05:53.00 | NightHawkTheSane | google |
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| 05:56.31 | Arrowmaster | MyWarCraftStudio |
| 05:57.37 | Ellipsis | just get the blizz addon kit thing |
| 05:57.40 | Ellipsis | it extracts graphics for you |
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| 06:00.41 | Antiarc | Lordy, Archimonde down, finally. |
| 06:00.52 | Ellipsis | grats again |
| 06:01.09 | Bruners | congrats |
| 06:01.41 | ircleuser | Sole: just read that lol..... |
| 06:01.53 | ircleuser | Just a function with no name.... |
| 06:02.05 | Sole | in that case, yes |
| 06:02.49 | Sole | I tried to google it but the explanations started talking about calculus and I lost interest :) |
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| 06:10.57 | Orionshock | is aliset here? |
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| 06:24.15 | Dezzimal | is mudsprocket in tourguide? |
| 06:25.00 | Orionshock | ... how to have something throw an error but not interupt the loading of a file.. |
| 06:25.01 | Recluse | i don't see it in my horde-side one |
| 06:26.12 | Dezzimal | bah :( |
| 06:27.05 | Recluse | and i don't see any "dustwallow" guide files to even check inside of for alliance |
| 06:28.15 | Recluse | could always write your own :D |
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| 06:36.18 | bigzero | Orionshock, ping |
| 06:36.25 | Orionshock | yes bigzero |
| 06:36.43 | bigzero | i hear you were writing an addon that extracts settings from addons |
| 06:37.09 | bigzero | got it up somewhere? |
| 06:38.37 | Orionshock | few scripts here and there... |
| 06:38.47 | Orionshock | no "real addon" anywhere |
| 06:38.54 | Orionshock | needs a wrapper and such |
| 06:39.34 | Orionshock | GDI, now i have to write an addon to extract the fking guild log... |
| 06:39.52 | bigzero | ah, is it supposed to be somewhat generalized or addon specific. the way Xinhuan put it, it seemed like it's supposed to be |
| 06:40.01 | bigzero | generalized |
| 06:40.52 | bigzero | lua> print({1,2,3}) |
| 06:40.52 | lua_bot | bigzero: { 1, 2, 3 } (#1) |
| 06:41.09 | Orionshock | bigzero: for ace2DB based addons it's generic, all you really need is the sv name |
| 06:41.40 | Orionshock | give me some time i'll throw it up on pasty what i have. |
| 06:41.45 | bigzero | lua> print({function() return 1,2,3 end}) |
| 06:41.45 | lua_bot | bigzero: { function: 0x80c6d58 } (#1) |
| 06:41.53 | bigzero | k, thanks |
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| 06:45.07 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/07/level-1-cow-raid-downs-70-mage/ |
| 06:45.11 | RaydenUni | you guys see that? |
| 06:48.04 | bigzero | lol i like how the link to the two videos in the article works |
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| 06:49.42 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 06:50.03 | RaydenUni | it would be nice if the links were more visible |
| 06:54.14 | bigzero | i mean the phrase "two videos" links to the to videos. two links to one and videos links to the other |
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| 06:55.10 | Orionshock | great.. now i need a fked up time function.... |
| 06:55.12 | Orionshock | god this blows |
| 06:55.46 | Orionshock | i've got time sence event happenned but i need the real Date Time Index of the Event |
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| 06:57.55 | bigzero | i take there's no easy way to go from ... to a table, because I see like Waterfall writing their own new(...) functions |
| 06:58.30 | Kivin | I'm cooldowns no longer work on ArkInv since the most recent version =/ |
| 06:58.32 | Kivin | Item |
| 06:58.46 | Kivin | I keep clicking on my hearth and can't figure out why it wont work |
| 07:00.00 | Gngsk | /use hearthstone |
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| 07:02.58 | Orionshock | ... gdi , time to rip appart clock fu |
| 07:02.59 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 07:03.38 | Ellipsis | why? |
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| 07:04.44 | Orionshock | ..because i don't want to figure out the math behind how it figures out what day / time it is between server and local |
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| 07:06.19 | aliset | [Ammo], I moved the interface bit for PvP flagging into its own module. Thanks. There's still the matter of responding to the permaflag check - it's about 15 new lines of code for Participant.lua. You mind? |
| 07:08.30 | Orionshock | might as well ask... |
| 07:09.18 | aliset | [Ammo], the patch is here: http://fake.domain.name/public/2008/ora2_pvp_participant.patch - I'll post it to the forums in case I miss you here. |
| 07:10.07 | Orionshock | anyone have any ideas on how to convert year, month, day, hour sense event happened into the real month / day / year ; Hour : Min the event happened ? |
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| 07:12.14 | aliset | ...I'm an idiot. |
| 07:12.19 | aliset | I could just put that in the mod. |
| 07:12.20 | aliset | argh. |
| 07:12.40 | aliset | thanks, Ammo! |
| 07:12.53 | bigzero | Orionshock, you're just looking at a way to push the date up by a couple hours? |
| 07:12.56 | bigzero | or down |
| 07:13.39 | Orionshock | <3 idiots / assholes at blizzard that do this... |
| 07:14.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.56 | Orionshock | so if the event happened at midnight, and i query that event 4 hrs later, it'll say "(4 hrs ago)" , and if done the next day it'll say ("1 day 4 hrs ago") |
| 07:15.14 | Orionshock | i need to know that it happened on 1/8/08 00:00 |
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| 07:17.57 | Orionshock | i have the values seperately , i could just subtract them direclty and that'd work for the most part |
| 07:18.13 | Orionshock | i'd have to account for the month / year offset |
| 07:18.22 | bigzero | is there even a way to get the date? |
| 07:18.27 | bigzero | i don't see it in the api |
| 07:20.41 | Orionshock | ,,, |
| 07:20.44 | Orionshock | date() |
| 07:21.15 | bigzero | ah, lua api...doh |
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| 07:24.16 | bigzero | subtracting shouldn't be too hard |
| 07:24.25 | bigzero | convert to seconds then back |
| 07:25.51 | bigzero | eh, maybe a little messy |
| 07:26.20 | Orionshock | ya, if it was 5 hours ago and 5 hrs ago was over the day mark, then -1 from rDay |
| 07:26.22 | Orionshock | ... |
| 07:27.04 | bigzero | except if it's march 1st and you go back a day, you need to know if it's a leap year or not |
| 07:27.14 | bigzero | so gets messy |
| 07:28.10 | bigzero | hey, this year is a leap year..yay! |
| 07:28.29 | Provus | Is Shadowed around? |
| 07:28.43 | Orionshock | ? |
| 07:29.04 | Orionshock | lua> math.floor( 29 / 2) |
| 07:29.04 | lua_bot | Orionshock: 14, |
| 07:29.08 | Provus | Having a problem with Afflicted is all |
| 07:29.11 | Orionshock | lua> math.floor( 30 / 2) |
| 07:29.11 | lua_bot | Orionshock: 15, |
| 07:29.22 | Provus | lua_bot rounds down. |
| 07:29.31 | bigzero | hence the floor |
| 07:29.57 | bigzero | lua> math.round( 29/2 ) |
| 07:29.57 | lua_bot | bigzero: [string "math.round( 29/2 )"]:1: attempt to call field 'round' (a nil value) |
| 07:30.01 | Orionshock | ... might as well ask... is there a math func that tells me if a number is odd or even? |
| 07:30.03 | bigzero | doh |
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| 07:30.16 | bigzero | 29 % 2 == 1 |
| 07:30.20 | bigzero | mod |
| 07:31.44 | Orionshock | easy |
| 07:32.09 | bigzero | lua> local a = function() return 1,2,3 end; print({a()}) |
| 07:32.09 | lua_bot | bigzero: { 1, 2, 3 } (#1) |
| 07:33.58 | bigzero | lua> 29%2 |
| 07:33.59 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1 |
| 07:34.08 | Orionshock | fuck it, that was bad, ... subtract everything then account for roll backs.. |
| 07:34.23 | Orionshock | much easer than a chitload of if then next |
| 07:34.34 | bigzero | metatables |
| 07:34.39 | bigzero | maybe |
| 07:34.52 | bigzero | or not |
| 07:34.54 | Orionshock | memorization is what your thinking |
| 07:34.58 | Orionshock | and im not that smart |
| 07:35.18 | Orionshock | besides, this is done once every few weeks, so im not conser'ed with trash creation |
| 07:35.19 | bigzero | but still, are you gonna get into leap year calculations and such? |
| 07:35.34 | Orionshock | bigzero: gona hurt you |
| 07:35.41 | bigzero | or determining if month has 30 or 31 days? |
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| 07:36.24 | Antiarc | http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6989/consolechartyr2.jpg |
| 07:36.31 | Orionshock | odd months have 31, even has 30, |
| 07:36.37 | Orionshock | and i can special case out febuary |
| 07:36.55 | bigzero | Orionshockjuly august have 31 |
| 07:37.04 | bigzero | that 7 and 8 |
| 07:37.18 | bigzero | so you're right for half of the year |
| 07:38.30 | kebinusan | Antiarc: so very true |
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| 07:45.19 | Orionshock | fk it then i'll just ask they change the API instead |
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| 07:53.37 | Sarana | Looks like someone made a character encoding error when commiting to Babble-Spell-2.2. Looks like it was broken in revision 58001, and then was partially fixed it in 58011. The German spells still are corrupted. |
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| 07:56.35 | kergoth | if any bored hunters are on, test http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8081-PetInstance.html for me and let me know if it goes kablooey (i never seem to run into half the bugs users do) |
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| 08:29.47 | theoddone33 | anyone related to proximo in here? |
| 08:30.32 | theoddone33 | I think it was making noises at me while I was killing venture company goblins near the oil rig in stv |
| 08:30.38 | theoddone33 | but it didn't display anything |
| 08:30.50 | theoddone33 | just noises similar to proximo, so if it doesn't have its own sound effects then NM |
| 08:30.56 | theoddone33 | where nm = nvm |
| 08:32.32 | Sole | afaik it doesnt have sound effects |
| 08:32.40 | Sole | unless he added it in a recent release |
| 08:32.59 | theoddone33 | well it plays sound effects, but they may not be custom |
| 08:33.06 | theoddone33 | I've just never heard anything else make that sound until now |
| 08:33.50 | theoddone33 | every time a venture co. geologist casts lightning bolt, heh |
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| 08:52.15 | Codayus | The fun of late night arena games on a very casual team: Watching a rogue fail to actually damage your guilds prot warrior MT in full tanking gear... |
| 08:56.16 | theoddone33 | I'd love to late night 2v2 but the queues are 10-15m |
| 08:56.40 | theoddone33 | 2v2 is my highest team but I didn't get 30% in this week |
| 08:59.08 | Sole | Codayus: hasnt the rogue heard of deadly poison shiv spam + envenom stacked with rupture? |
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| 08:59.44 | theoddone33 | most of the kiddies are ar/prep nowadays |
| 08:59.59 | theoddone33 | I guess they could stealth and repoison |
| 09:00.06 | Sole | that doesnt affect the strategy at all :P |
| 09:00.18 | theoddone33 | well iirc envenom is a bit weak without assassination talents |
| 09:00.34 | theoddone33 | lots of people wouldn't have it on their bar |
| 09:00.39 | Sole | better than 500dmg eviscerates against full prot warrior |
| 09:00.56 | theoddone33 | yeah deep sub rogues would probably rupture anyway |
| 09:01.11 | theoddone33 | but rogue vs prot warrior is fun |
| 09:01.18 | Sole | dont go there =\ |
| 09:01.24 | theoddone33 | ? |
| 09:01.42 | Sole | if by fun you mean AIDS then yes it is :) |
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| 09:01.57 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 09:02.07 | theoddone33 | I don't play my rogue anymore :-/ |
| 09:02.44 | Sole | dont blame ya |
| 09:04.44 | theoddone33 | I don't have any fun as mutilate and I don't have gear for any other spec |
| 09:04.53 | theoddone33 | plus my gear is a little past "new 70" quality |
| 09:05.00 | theoddone33 | so playing to get my gear up isn't fun |
| 09:05.05 | theoddone33 | vicious cycle |
| 09:07.31 | Recluse | i don't play my rogue anymore either - rerolled druid |
| 09:07.55 | theoddone33 | single target damage dealer to healer is a nice transition |
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| 09:08.12 | Sole | whoa just read that blueberries can reduce the chance of dementia and Alzheimer's + they improve your memory |
| 09:08.16 | cladhaire | druid is for the win |
| 09:08.37 | Recluse | <3 druid - leveling my second one now |
| 09:08.44 | Sole | and they generally enchance your brain's capacity |
| 09:08.49 | Sole | I might start eating more berries |
| 09:09.17 | Sole | is druid really that fun? |
| 09:09.41 | Godzmack | they also say that meat may give you cancer so will you stop eating that? |
| 09:09.42 | cladhaire | I'm a healer |
| 09:09.44 | cladhaire | and I love healing as a druid |
| 09:09.46 | cladhaire | and leveling as a druid, is as easy as affliction lock |
| 09:10.12 | Recluse | to me they are - your results my vary? *shrug* (feral for me tho, pref. tank) |
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| 09:18.22 | Paene | Any WoWace admins arround? |
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| 09:18.38 | cladhaire | depends on what you mean/need |
| 09:18.56 | Paene | need someone to reset my svn password, just built a new computer and I don't remember it |
| 09:19.03 | cladhaire | then no, I can't help you. |
| 09:19.10 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 09:19.28 | Paene | Anyone other than Kael able to help with that? |
| 09:19.42 | cladhaire | there are others who have access, yes |
| 09:19.46 | cladhaire | My rights are only on the forums tho, thank GOD. |
| 09:19.50 | Paene | lol |
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| 09:20.29 | Orionshock | who the hell is "Nitelily" on wow forums in UI? |
| 09:20.33 | Orionshock | is that Nargiddley ? |
| 09:20.36 | Sole | clad: I thought it was your svn server, since you were the one creating accounts. Or has that changed now? |
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| 09:20.47 | cladhaire | it hasn't been that way for two years :P |
| 09:21.00 | cladhaire | since I took a work week off to set up the independent wowace.com :P |
| 09:21.20 | Sole | two years? :O |
| 09:21.56 | Sole | but Ive been with wowace for like 18 months and you did it for me - thats not 2 years :P |
| 09:22.08 | Orionshock | btw Nargiddley u see my request on jira? any insights or first reactions of 'the hell no" that i get out of some ppl for some of my ideas :D |
| 09:22.30 | Sole | what is your request? |
| 09:22.48 | Orionshock | i have a need for an "OnClick" for the GUI Lib's "TreeGroup" widget |
| 09:22.50 | cladhaire | Sole: I was still creating accounts at that point |
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| 09:24.11 | Killmore | with bigwigs, how did you remove a custom timer ? |
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| 09:30.38 | evl | 2.3.2 confirmed today |
| 09:32.10 | Bibi | lies. |
| 09:32.30 | Bibi | if you've got an accurate source, you should link it, and link it in all the channels you're currently in. |
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| 09:36.25 | Codayus | It's been so long, I can't remember what 2.3.2 is even doing. |
| 09:36.32 | Codayus | Am I looking forward to it? I can't rememebr! |
| 09:36.39 | vithos | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773462798&postId=37728843853&sid=1#0 |
| 09:37.00 | Godzmack | that doesnt mean its coming this maintainance |
| 09:37.43 | Killmore | look at mmo-champion |
| 09:38.00 | Bibi | good idea. |
| 09:38.03 | Killmore | :P |
| 09:38.25 | Killmore | I dont think blizz will patch eu server before us server |
| 09:39.22 | Bibi | nop, they're not stupid enough |
| 09:39.28 | Bibi | imagine all the drama :D |
| 09:41.08 | vithos | are the ghostlands a nightmare to level in or is it just me? |
| 09:41.28 | Orionshock | I'd recommend error'ing on the side of sanity, witch would state: "This is a button mashers' game, and your asking to not 'Mash-the-button' ? " |
| 09:41.32 | vithos | everything was going so smooth in eversong woods, then i cross the border and die constantly |
| 09:41.46 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:46.51 | Sole_ | vithos: what class? |
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| 09:58.23 | vithos | Sole_: rogue |
| 09:59.16 | vithos | i guess it's just that my aggro radius is huge |
| 09:59.23 | Sole_ | I had a rough spot leveling rogue between 10-16ish, but that was probably because the game had been out for 2 days and I didnt know what to do |
| 09:59.31 | Sole_ | AH yourself some good weps and you should be ok |
| 09:59.38 | Sole_ | thats how it is with physical classes |
| 09:59.53 | Sole_ | cept hunters, they just rock leveling |
| 10:00.21 | vithos | i'm just always pulling adds, or proxy aggroing right after killing something before i recover |
| 10:00.48 | vithos | i think maybe i did the quests too efficiently and should grind some |
| 10:03.06 | Recluse | vithos: what level are you? |
| 10:03.55 | vithos | 12 |
| 10:04.50 | Recluse | hmm, 12 is when i like to go to ghostlands |
| 10:05.57 | Recluse | i'm the type that grinds from quest giver to quest objective and back again, though - usually level 23 by the time i get outta there lol |
| 10:06.46 | vithos | i've been doing the opposite, not killing anything i don't have a quest for |
| 10:07.07 | vithos | and questhelper has made my pathing pretty optimal |
| 10:07.53 | Recluse | ah, never played with that addon |
| 10:08.24 | Ozguli | you don't get any gold that way. |
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| 10:09.11 | Merl | Ozguli: do you ever get any gold pre 60? :) |
| 10:09.21 | Recluse | heh, one of the friends i play with refuses to do quests and grinds 1-70. i don't have that much patience for mindless killing |
| 10:09.34 | Ozguli | rugged leather goes for 8-15g/stack |
| 10:09.46 | Ozguli | not to forget the cloth |
| 10:10.06 | Ozguli | but that's just my realm |
| 10:10.07 | vithos | heh, i'm going to try just grinding for a while and see how i like it |
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| 10:10.42 | vithos | i've only leveled one character to 70, and had numerous false starts leveling alts |
| 10:11.18 | Recluse | i definitely suffer from alt-ism |
| 10:11.48 | Merl | if you only do quest you'll be broke at 60, and have 1k-1.2k gold at 70 :) |
| 10:11.55 | Sole | Recluse: what is your friend's reason for refusing to do quests? |
| 10:12.05 | Sole | "too lazy to bother with them" ? |
| 10:13.20 | Recluse | lol - more of that there's too much downtime "take this letter to the other continent" quests during chains and such. argues that grinding gives more xp (if done efficiently) than questing |
| 10:14.04 | Sole | he's wrong |
| 10:14.12 | Sole | =] |
| 10:14.12 | Recluse | they do become suprisingly wealthy during their leveling tho lol |
| 10:14.28 | Sole | hmm yeah, but I'll get to 70 faster and get wealthier at 70 |
| 10:14.32 | _neuron_ | Recluse, he's insanely wrong :P |
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| 10:14.43 | Sole | hasn't he heard of grinding quests? |
| 10:14.44 | _neuron_ | it was faster to do questing before they buffed it, and they buffed it a lot |
| 10:14.51 | Sole | yeah |
| 10:14.52 | _neuron_ | exactly |
| 10:14.56 | Sole | like a LOT |
| 10:14.58 | Recluse | XD yeah, i'm faster at questing, but you can't tell a brick wall to move |
| 10:15.09 | _neuron_ | you can hit it until it does though |
| 10:15.11 | _neuron_ | :p |
| 10:15.14 | Sole | 20% less xp required and 30% xp boost on quests |
| 10:15.17 | Recluse | =P |
| 10:15.26 | Sole | I cant tell a brick wall to move, but I can break it with a sledgehammer :D |
| 10:15.29 | _neuron_ | that QuestHelper looks very cool... /me 's grabbing that for my alt. |
| 10:15.41 | Sole | me is checking it out now |
| 10:16.33 | Recluse | link? i use bEQL w/LightHeaded and TourGuide |
| 10:16.41 | _neuron_ | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ |
| 10:16.46 | Recluse | ty |
| 10:16.53 | _neuron_ | I really liked what it did with my cartographer worldmap :P |
| 10:17.00 | _neuron_ | it's "OHH shiny" kinda thing |
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| 10:18.49 | Sole | thats cool that it places mob locations on the map |
| 10:20.03 | vithos | i think the biggest thing questhelper has going for it is that the dataset is built automatically (at least, i believe so) |
| 10:20.10 | cladhaire | it doesn't seem so |
| 10:20.18 | cladhaire | its got a 1.7 meg data file, containing NPC locations |
| 10:20.22 | cladhaire | and some other things |
| 10:20.22 | Recluse | hrm, that last s-shot reminds me - did they ever fix/make an addon that lets you view the 'world map' as the minimap texture style maps? |
| 10:20.32 | vithos | yeah, but that data was collected automatically |
| 10:20.35 | cladhaire | Recluse: long time ago, called Yatlas |
| 10:20.39 | SunTsu | I really dig mobmap |
| 10:20.46 | cladhaire | Recluse: google maps for wow, in game |
| 10:20.55 | vithos | at least, it has alerted me that i have new data and should submit it |
| 10:21.15 | Recluse | cladhaire: you know if it replaces or resides alongside the world map? |
| 10:21.20 | vithos | it acts a lot like a leveling guide, but without someone actually writing a guide |
| 10:21.26 | cladhaire | Recluse: not sure, actually |
| 10:22.08 | Paene | Anyone using the AddonStudio? |
| 10:22.09 | Sole | so does Lightheaded <3 clad |
| 10:22.21 | cladhaire | Sole: what does? |
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| 10:22.23 | Sole | that the visual studio extension? |
| 10:22.27 | Paene | Sole: yes |
| 10:22.49 | Sole | cladhaire: Lightheaded helps a lot with leveling is what I should've said |
| 10:22.50 | Recluse | i tried it, and it had some promising features, but overall...i'll stick with notepad++ lol |
| 10:23.05 | Sole | dunno about AddonStudio, I like my np++ a lot |
| 10:23.16 | Paene | yeah |
| 10:23.23 | Paene | been debating whether to try it out or not |
| 10:23.30 | Sole | what are the key features of AddonStudio? |
| 10:23.40 | Sole | what will it do that we can't ourselves |
| 10:24.05 | Paene | I can't remember everything offhand, but I think it's supposed to be able to render frames and such without having to go into WoW |
| 10:24.19 | Recluse | yar, visual UI designer |
| 10:24.20 | cladhaire | graphical design of frames |
| 10:24.23 | Paene | has the intelli-sense |
| 10:24.29 | Sole | thats pretty cool |
| 10:24.31 | cladhaire | and every visual studio feature |
| 10:24.38 | Sole | so quite a bit |
| 10:25.09 | Sole | might try it actually |
| 10:25.24 | Recluse | there were some things i didn't like - auto-toc generation for one |
| 10:25.41 | Sole | I thought it would have that |
| 10:25.49 | Paene | it's supposed to have wowace plugin support or something too |
| 10:26.32 | cladhaire | _neuron_: does it tell me what to do next, or just where to go for the next objective? |
| 10:27.09 | Sole | cladhaire: I think QuestHelper just shows the destination of your current quests in your zone |
| 10:27.14 | Paene | well, I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow for SVN access :-/ gnite all |
| 10:27.17 | cladhaire | it actually shows all zones |
| 10:27.17 | cladhaire | heh |
| 10:27.25 | cladhaire | the moving dots are pretty swish tho |
| 10:27.35 | vithos | ahh, i figured out why i was having such trouble with my rogue. didn't realize how much slice and dice sucked for this setup |
| 10:27.35 | Sole | ooh nifty |
| 10:27.53 | Sole | vithos: leveling with daggers? :P |
| 10:28.55 | vithos | yeah i'm using two daggers right now. but it's a bit early for the weapon type to matter i think |
| 10:29.13 | cladhaire | Sole: However, it shows destinations for un-completed quests |
| 10:29.15 | cladhaire | this frustrates me. |
| 10:29.56 | Sole | cladhaire: I thought that was the point of it. To show you where to go to do the quest (where the mobs are located, etc) |
| 10:30.06 | Recluse | same |
| 10:30.13 | Sole | vithos: it should matter always |
| 10:30.14 | evl | leveling with daggers+ |
| 10:30.16 | evl | snd sucks? |
| 10:30.17 | cladhaire | Sole: it shows me where to turn in quests |
| 10:30.19 | evl | oh lord. |
| 10:30.19 | cladhaire | that havebn't been done |
| 10:30.26 | cladhaire | i don't need to know that right now, since the quest isn't done! |
| 10:30.36 | Sole | evl: deep breaths :P |
| 10:30.45 | Sole | oooh |
| 10:30.49 | Sole | now that is annoying |
| 10:30.52 | evl | vithos: unless you like sodomizing yourself with a spoon you will go sword spec, riposte |
| 10:31.01 | Sole | level 12 you say? |
| 10:31.10 | cladhaire | i'm gonna play a bit more |
| 10:31.12 | Sole | go 2/2 imp SS |
| 10:31.12 | vithos | i'm level 12 yeah |
| 10:31.30 | Sole | then 3 into lightning reflexes |
| 10:31.54 | Sole | then 3 snd, hit, parry + riposte + dual wield spec and so on |
| 10:32.05 | Sole | riposte is >really< good |
| 10:32.10 | evl | REALLY |
| 10:32.15 | evl | 10 energy and 125% weapon damage |
| 10:32.19 | Sole | oh yah |
| 10:32.24 | evl | if you meet someone in pvp, and then hit you and you parry |
| 10:32.26 | Sole | its actually our highest DPE ability |
| 10:32.32 | evl | you smack them for more than a backstab could ever do |
| 10:32.39 | evl | http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/Working-as-Intended/Rogue-Leveling-101/ |
| 10:32.41 | Sole | I use riposte on casters :D |
| 10:32.41 | evl | that post is very nice |
| 10:33.02 | Sole | when a melee (includes pets) is on you |
| 10:33.05 | Sole | and you parry their attack |
| 10:33.11 | Sole | you can riposte anyone |
| 10:33.20 | evl | if you have a main, buy mats for Fiery weapon |
| 10:33.24 | evl | it's just LAWL at lower levels |
| 10:33.27 | Sole | or have they changed that evl? |
| 10:33.35 | evl | you can riposte anyone afaik |
| 10:33.36 | Sole | I havent speced riposte in a while |
| 10:33.46 | Sole | yeah fiery wep |
| 10:33.50 | Sole | make stuff go boomboom |
| 10:34.26 | Sole | dont go near daggers until 70 |
| 10:34.42 | Sole | and even then...mutilate is only hot if your name is Tosan |
| 10:34.49 | evl | or if you have really good weapons |
| 10:34.53 | evl | mutilate is very gear dependent |
| 10:35.00 | Sole | that it is |
| 10:35.05 | Sole | evl: you watched Tosan's vids? |
| 10:35.10 | evl | i reached 1805 in my 5v5 with mutilate yesterday |
| 10:35.17 | Sole | he makes it look like an easy spec |
| 10:35.19 | evl | heavy poison build ftw |
| 10:35.27 | Sole | 50+ in ass? |
| 10:35.49 | evl | you realize how nasty that sounds? |
| 10:36.01 | Sole | yeah I realized that soon as I hit enter |
| 10:36.05 | Codayus | I id a double take...I admit. |
| 10:36.15 | Sole | lol |
| 10:36.37 | Sole | 50+ points in assassination? |
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| 10:37.38 | evl | Sole: 50/0/11 |
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| 10:37.47 | Sole | fun build |
| 10:37.54 | evl | you pretty much have 100% MS uptime on your target |
| 10:38.03 | evl | we met 3 healer setup and they went oom trying to cleanse it off |
| 10:38.04 | evl | :) |
| 10:38.09 | Sole | lol |
| 10:38.26 | Sole | I like mutilate |
| 10:38.33 | evl | it blows for 2v2 though :( |
| 10:38.39 | Sole | I did miss prep a lot |
| 10:38.45 | Sole | evl: watch Tosan's vid :P |
| 10:38.53 | Sole | 2 mutilate rogues |
| 10:38.57 | Sole | reach very high rating |
| 10:39.06 | evl | what is high rating |
| 10:39.09 | evl | and what battlegroup |
| 10:39.25 | Sole | hang on |
| 10:39.28 | Sole | its not bg9 |
| 10:41.50 | Sole | they got to 2304. he doesnt state battlegroup but he is on korgath (us) |
| 10:42.02 | Sole | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=54418 |
| 10:42.09 | smoke_ | anyone around familiar with witchhunt? |
| 10:42.28 | Sole | smoke_: Ive looked over the code before. What do you need to know? |
| 10:42.36 | Sole | evl: linky is there |
| 10:42.41 | smoke_ | the buff fading code |
| 10:42.43 | smoke_ | does it work? |
| 10:42.53 | Sole | I would assume so |
| 10:43.10 | smoke_ | like, i want to see when iceblock and divine shield to announce when they fade? |
| 10:43.34 | smoke_ | i see the code where its at, i see there is a part where the event functions get registered commented, i uncommented but still dont get any results? |
| 10:43.50 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:43.52 | Recluse | bah, i got spoiled over xmas. full maintenance blows |
| 10:44.09 | Sole | smoke_: talk to Ammo about that |
| 10:44.58 | Sole | from when I used WitchHunt I remember seeing buffs fade |
| 10:45.00 | evl | Sole: oooh, it's pre 2.3 :P |
| 10:45.17 | Sole | evl: so? :P |
| 10:45.59 | Sole | evl: I know other classes got buffed in 2.3, but the video still holds merit considering mutilate is unchanged |
| 10:46.21 | evl | I'll check it ooout |
| 10:46.35 | Sole | his editing skills are entertaining |
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| 10:52.57 | smoke_ | like |
| 10:53.33 | smoke_ | i dont get it, in the code it looks like buff fades are implemeneted, people ask about it on the witchhunt2.0 thread in wowace forums, but there are no answers.. is it due to the current state of the blizzard combat log parser? |
| 10:57.03 | smoke_ | ah i see, he disables it,, but was that jsut the commented out code? |
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| 10:57.34 | SunTsu | smoke_: Just ask [Ammo] when he's here |
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| 11:01.53 | smoke_ | k |
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| 11:16.01 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r58049 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/ (4 files): |
| 11:16.01 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:16.01 | CIA-4 | - bossname files finished. |
| 11:16.27 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r58050 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 11:16.28 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 11:16.28 | CIA-4 | - Patch 2.3.2 change |
| 11:16.29 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r58051 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 11:16.29 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 11:16.29 | CIA-4 | - Patch 2.3.2 change |
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| 11:32.03 | Xinhuan | quiet. |
| 11:32.13 | vhaarr | quite. |
| 11:32.23 | Gngsk | quite quiet, indeed |
| 11:32.31 | Xinhuan | ¯`·.¸_¸.·´¯`·.¸_¸.·´¯`·.¸_¸.·´¯`·.¸_¸.·´¯`·.¸_¸.·´ nice wavy patterns |
| 11:32.34 | Xinhuan | ok i'm bored |
| 11:32.37 | Gngsk | lol |
| 11:33.00 | Xinhuan | time to explore why omen makes acecomm cry |
| 11:33.02 | Xinhuan | afk |
| 11:33.14 | ckknight | Xinhuan: because you touch yourself at night |
| 11:33.20 | ckknight | nice wave, btw |
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| 11:58.09 | evl | US up yet? |
| 11:59.21 | Recluse | wow? isn't it full maint? |
| 12:06.32 | Antiarc | ben_linux: ,ptmomh |
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| 12:06.34 | Antiarc | ben_linux: lets try that again: morning! |
| 12:07.04 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:07.42 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Now in the correct channel too! |
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| 12:15.06 | Recluse | ...can you drop a modifier key in the middle of a cast sequence? |
| 12:15.58 | [dRaCo] | drop it? |
| 12:16.52 | Recluse | ie: /castsequence reset=target Rake, Claw, Claw, [modifier:shift] Rip |
| 12:18.15 | Megalon | put it in a line before the sequence: /cast [modifier:shift] Rip |
| 12:18.27 | [dRaCo] | yeah, megalon's way should do it |
| 12:18.30 | Recluse | ah! doh |
| 12:19.13 | Recluse | didn't think about it that way XD, ty |
| 12:19.39 | SunTsu | Megalon: Hm, but that would be cast everytime the macro would be called, not only after doing rake and two claws |
| 12:19.53 | [dRaCo] | only if you press shift |
| 12:21.05 | Recluse | well, that was the idea in my case - i hated that it would cast Rip statically, and wanted to make it user's choice whether to do it or not - should work with the second line |
| 12:22.22 | Recluse | wish we had a third macro window 'tab' for "class specific" |
| 12:22.25 | SunTsu | [dRaCo]: Yeah, so you can't trigger the macro the whole time while holding down shift, as you could do if it was inside the castsequence |
| 12:23.33 | Codayus | Why do I never feel an urge to level my alts...except during server maintance? |
| 12:24.23 | SunTsu | Codayus: I don't know, I only feel the urge to level my alts, never feeling the urge to play my main, currently |
| 12:24.36 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:24.52 | Codayus | I prefer playing my main to alts, mostly. But I'd like to get one of my alts to 70.... |
| 12:25.16 | Codayus | The leveling process sucks, but periodically I do it anyhow. |
| 12:26.49 | Recluse | i'm sitting on 3 70's and 2 60's, with many more coming up each day |
| 12:26.51 | SunTsu | Codayus: It sucks really less than before patch 2.3. My newest alt got started 1.5 weeks before that patch and hit lvl 52 on sunday - additionally three other alts made 20 levels since that patch |
| 12:27.06 | Codayus | I know...if it wasn't for 2.3, I probably wouldn't do it at all... |
| 12:27.36 | Codayus | I have 1 70, two 64s, and...a 27, I think. |
| 12:28.27 | Recluse | oh, on that cast sequence - would using the modifier reset the sequence, or no |
| 12:28.29 | SunTsu | Now I have 1 lvl 70 - and hope to have 5 lvl 70 end of february |
| 12:28.42 | SunTsu | Recluse: No, it wouldn't |
| 12:28.51 | Recluse | perfect, ty |
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| 12:30.31 | Bruners | is arkinv broken? |
| 12:30.41 | Recluse | 3x70, 64, 62, 53 and about 10 or so between 35 and 50 |
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| 12:30.57 | SunTsu | I would like to something similar for my warlock, just I'd like to have the castsequence altered to either cast CoA or CoS depending whether a specific modifier is pressed or not. But it has to be in the sequence. Didn't come by a clever idea for that |
| 12:31.20 | SunTsu | Recluse: You seem to have even more spare time than me ;) |
| 12:31.21 | Recluse | i'm using some "iwin" dot macro on my 39 lock twink |
| 12:31.47 | Recluse | SunTsu: one day i hope to have a 70 (or 80 D=) or each class |
| 12:32.31 | SunTsu | Recluse: Hm, that was something I thought of myself, too, it just turned out, I don't like playing some classes ;) |
| 12:33.03 | Recluse | hehe - i'm not a fan of casters (for leveling) |
| 12:33.35 | SunTsu | I can't stand playing shaman or priests. I don't know why. I know great priests and shamans, I just don't like to play them myself |
| 12:34.01 | Codayus | My main is a priest. Leveling a shaman... :-) |
| 12:34.04 | SunTsu | Or Paladin or warriors |
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| 12:34.13 | SunTsu | Just not my kind of playstyle |
| 12:34.39 | SunTsu | My main is druid and my favorite alt a warlock. |
| 12:35.29 | SunTsu | It just turned out that everybody I know who likes playing warlock just likes playing druid and the other ways around, and most people I know that have a warlock main have a druid twink - or the other way around |
| 12:36.24 | Recluse | i was a rogue main, rerolled druid for tbc and made it my new main - rogue's nothing but a herb/ore farmer now lol |
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| 12:36.44 | mort | i love my druid and hate my warlock twink ;) |
| 12:37.01 | SunTsu | Recluse: I'm leveling rogue, too. It's fun, but somehow I have a deja-vu from my druid main ;) |
| 12:37.12 | SunTsu | mort: I don't know you ;) |
| 12:37.21 | Recluse | cat form has many similarities to rogue.. XD |
| 12:38.23 | Bruners | DogTag-1.0 can be removed right? |
| 12:38.48 | Recluse | did the armory take a vacation with blizzard or something? past few days some characters have been 'unavailable' and others just won't update |
| 12:39.16 | SunTsu | My rogue finally seems to get stronger, in the late 30s and early 40s it seemed week to me, now I get the feeling that it finally gets to be as tough in taking and dealing out damage as I want it to be |
| 12:40.58 | Recluse | i breezed through my rogue 1-60, had problems in outlands though until i respecced it to subtlety |
| 12:45.40 | ckknight | Bruners: you can use LibDogTag-2.0 instead, which is better anyway |
| 12:47.08 | Bruners | ckknight: i had both |
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| 12:48.23 | SunTsu | Recluse: I have specced assasination and had some problems with it in STV, had to eat after every single mob |
| 12:49.28 | SunTsu | Sometimes even had to drink pots to survive. |
| 12:51.31 | Recluse | SunTsu: Definitely - I burned through hpots like water on my rogue (i did asscombat 1-60), but i didn't ever feel 'in danger' for the most part |
| 12:51.32 | [Liquidor] | !c Lassepraest zenedar |
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| 12:54.33 | Recluse | but the feeling of knowing i could do things like solo groups of 4 same-level elites with proper tactics always brought a smile to my face |
| 12:55.43 | SunTsu | Recluse: Well, in STV, as soon as there was a third mob I knew I was doomed - at least when vanish was on cd ;) |
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| 12:57.37 | Recluse | SunTsu: it's all about initial setup, imo (and mob type). adds can be nasty if you're not careful - don't get in sticky situations while your cd's aren't up XD |
| 12:58.59 | SunTsu | Recluse: Well, now it works, having more stuns and stronger poisons |
| 13:01.27 | Recluse | ^.^ |
| 13:02.53 | SunTsu | .o0( and that talend that reduces damage ;) Just forgot it's name ) |
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| 13:07.31 | Recluse | i'm not a hardcore tv watcher, but i must say this screenwriter strike sucks - absolutely nothing on, ever |
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| 13:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | meh meh |
| 13:13.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate secret twinks. |
| 13:13.12 | |Pixel| | hm ? |
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| 13:13.27 | sag_ich_nicht | oh he always creates "secret" twinks |
| 13:13.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but somehow i find them all |
| 13:13.34 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Found any usable HUD? |
| 13:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | just found another one |
| 13:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nope SunTsu |
| 13:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i also found a problem with having a hud |
| 13:13.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't target myself. |
| 13:14.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean i CAN, but i can't properly |
| 13:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
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| 13:15.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i need some small frame about the size of a BT3 button to click to target myself |
| 13:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 13:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | (as in, spelltarget, not /target Player) |
| 13:16.22 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, ArcHUD2 *ducks and cowers* |
| 13:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu no. |
| 13:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | get out |
| 13:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2593777857.html this is pornography for my brain |
| 13:17.48 | |Pixel| | I usually press "f1" to target myself |
| 13:17.59 | SunTsu | |Pixel|: So do I |
| 13:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i have the function keys bound to spells |
| 13:18.49 | SunTsu | That was too much for many ;) |
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| 13:20.21 | sag_ich_nicht | now all they need to do is increase the resolution to a UHDV level and give me a UHDV cam that's just as small and i'll buy it |
| 13:21.59 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: I took a look at DHUD2 and I immediately fell in love with the look. Ther eshould be a way to get a energy ticker in there |
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| 13:22.52 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu: i like the look too, but giev energyticker :/ |
| 13:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | AND i need some micro unit frame for targeting myself |
| 13:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 13:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB UHDV display + HVD recorder, screw bluray |
| 13:24.03 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, building a ticker shouldn't be too hard |
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| 13:27.35 | Stan_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=K14ZHRZ7cVA |
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| 13:28.21 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: I liked the target frame on ArcHUD2, too, but most of the time I had troubles with it |
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| 13:44.22 | kagaro | morning |
| 13:44.34 | Wogroipl_ | morning kagaro |
| 13:44.40 | kagaro | ping Ammo |
| 13:45.05 | nevcairiel | pure Ammo, no peace |
| 13:45.23 | kagaro | nevcairiel: you got a few mins? |
| 13:45.43 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 13:47.01 | kagaro | did that pm go through nev? |
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| 14:19.28 | evl | I love sony's new approach to DRM free music |
| 14:19.35 | evl | It's in MP3 format |
| 14:19.40 | evl | And you have to go to the fucking STORE and buy a PHYSICAL pass fotr 12,99$ which allows you to pick up one album online out of an amazing current pool of 37. |
| 14:20.07 | SunTsu | evl: Sounds like a great concept |
| 14:20.19 | evl | Sounds like something great for sony to invest a shitload of money on |
| 14:20.39 | evl | I mean, do you want to purchase your downloadable music online? You must be some kind of freak |
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| 14:25.37 | CIA-4 | DrDamage: |
| 14:25.37 | CIA-4 | - 2.3.2 changes |
| 14:25.37 | CIA-4 | - Fixed Hemorrhage debuff calculation |
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| 14:27.56 | SNiLD | hey anyone know an addon that would allow me to resize the default frames? |
| 14:28.26 | SNiLD | after i changed my resolution the text in some default frames won't fit the frames anymore :/ |
| 14:28.37 | SunTsu | SNiLD: You can scale the whole UI |
| 14:28.47 | SunTsu | SNiLD: It's in the interface options |
| 14:29.59 | SNiLD | yeah, i have that set to the minimum |
| 14:30.15 | SNiLD | 0.74 or something |
| 14:31.22 | ramoz | this might be old |
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| 14:31.36 | ramoz | but a guild called Razorfen Downs Syndrom got disbanned by Blizzard |
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| 14:36.05 | [Ammo] | kagaro: you rang? |
| 14:36.14 | kagaro | yo |
| 14:40.30 | kadrahil | ramoz: an alliance guild on my server called Show Me Your Crits was reported and forced to disband |
| 14:40.37 | kadrahil | ramoz: so someone horde side recreated it, haha |
| 14:40.42 | ramoz | haha |
| 14:40.45 | ramoz | awesome name |
| 14:40.57 | kadrahil | they renamed as Show Me Your Censored |
| 14:42.29 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 14:53.47 | Pkekyo| | is there anything like TankPoints for casters/mages? :p |
| 14:54.14 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Maybe RatingBuster |
| 14:54.43 | evl | Pkekyo|: or... spelldamage in all slots, GOGOG |
| 14:54.43 | Pkekyo| | ratingbuster is nothing like TankPoints (I happen to use both) |
| 14:54.55 | Pkekyo| | evl: working on it lol |
| 14:55.20 | Pkekyo| | trying to figure out wether to use midstamina/midint/midspir or highint/midspir/nostam |
| 14:55.52 | xyu | http://www.maxdps.com/ try there, though i don't know how accurate it is. |
| 14:56.58 | Pkekyo| | was kinda hoping for an ingame addon, but thanks, gonna look into it |
| 14:57.01 | evl | I like how it doesn't have rogues in there :( |
| 14:57.11 | evl | Pkekyo|: best bet is EJ tbh |
| 14:57.30 | Pkekyo| | evl: ask on teh EJ forums? |
| 14:57.32 | xyu | i think the question is situational |
| 14:57.38 | evl | no, there's probably tons of mage threads |
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| 14:57.43 | xyu | depends on the fight. |
| 14:58.00 | evl | xyu: that's why you make up something that does the most amount of damage with the most amount of flexibility |
| 14:58.03 | Pkekyo| | I'm only level 58 >.< |
| 14:58.19 | xyu | well for me, i'm ok with 7400hp unbuffed |
| 14:58.28 | xyu | but i know a lot of people consider that low. |
| 14:58.41 | Pkekyo| | I've got about 2k |
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| 14:58.50 | xyu | oh you're leveling up? |
| 14:58.55 | xyu | go with int |
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| 14:59.11 | evl | int yeah |
| 14:59.12 | Pkekyo| | aye, only lvl 58 |
| 14:59.37 | xyu | i don't worry at all about gear while leveling. |
| 14:59.48 | xyu | i think while i leveled i had some level 30 items on while i was like 60 :P |
| 15:00.36 | SunTsu | xyu: Me neither, I just look into ratingbuster and decide whether it's something I want to trade in or not |
| 15:00.51 | Pkekyo| | xyu: I have only replaced ONE item since SM :p |
| 15:01.13 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: as do I, but I haven't looked into mage stat mechanics etc yet, so I really don't know what's better :< |
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| 15:01.36 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: As a mage? Normally int, followed by spirit |
| 15:01.58 | Pkekyo| | thought spelldamage reigned supreme? |
| 15:02.31 | xyu` | if you're 70, hit then dmg |
| 15:02.33 | xyu` | until hit capped |
| 15:02.33 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: that's true later when your mana pool already is big enaough and you have all the cost reducement skilled that you can |
| 15:02.34 | xyu` | then dmg |
| 15:02.40 | Grum | SunTsu: why spirit ? |
| 15:02.42 | xyu` | crit is never good to go for on a mage really |
| 15:02.51 | xyu` | and spirit is even more useless now that they changed evocation |
| 15:02.51 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: 4.2k manapool |
| 15:02.52 | capullo | lowlvl int + sta |
| 15:03.03 | Grum | hit, crit|spelldmg, sta|sta |
| 15:03.16 | Grum | erm sta|int :) |
| 15:03.17 | Pkekyo| | no hit gear for me yet, got 125 spelldamage, low stamina |
| 15:03.23 | SunTsu | Grum: To have a better regen |
| 15:03.24 | xyu` | dont worry about hit gear |
| 15:03.27 | xyu` | until 70 |
| 15:03.35 | capullo | lvl 70: hit (until cap) > spelldmg /haste > crit > other stats |
| 15:03.42 | Grum | SunTsu: water/gems/evocation have best regen ^^ |
| 15:03.54 | capullo | wrong |
| 15:03.54 | SunTsu | Grum: Infight? ;) |
| 15:04.00 | capullo | evocation is fixed |
| 15:04.00 | Grum | gems/evoc ^^ |
| 15:04.09 | Grum | spi is useless for mages now |
| 15:04.11 | Pkekyo| | xyu: so I should just level to 70 in my SM gear? |
| 15:04.11 | xyu` | yeah spirit is bad for mage |
| 15:04.12 | capullo | 15% mana per tick |
| 15:04.17 | Grum | it was needed for evoc |
| 15:04.20 | xyu` | pkekyo, yep! |
| 15:04.27 | xyu` | you'll get upgrades in hellfire :P |
| 15:04.52 | Grum | or get lvl58-60 'of the invoker' gear orso :P |
| 15:04.54 | xyu` | Unless you instance for fun. |
| 15:05.02 | capullo | nope, they changed many lowlvl gears |
| 15:05.09 | capullo | they added spelldmg |
| 15:05.27 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: You'll get replacements soom enough, like I got a nice cowl in temple of atal'hakkar yesterday |
| 15:05.32 | Pkekyo| | xyu`you'll get upgrades in hellfire <---- exactly why I need to know what gear to take! |
| 15:05.36 | xyu` | I always found it more time consuming going for a piece of low level gear you'll eventually outlevel anyway, than it is just to grind quests. |
| 15:05.39 | Grum | ~lvl50 is ~230 spelldmg orso |
| 15:05.40 | purl | Grum: okay |
| 15:06.46 | xyu` | the ultimate goal is getting 70 asap imo. and 10 extra spell dmg isn't going to matter as much as knowing where to quest ^^ |
| 15:07.01 | capullo | yes |
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| 15:08.18 | xyu` | once you hit 70, get into shadowlabs. quite a few nice pieces in there if i recall. robes, shoulders, sword. |
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| 15:10.27 | Pkekyo| | I hate SL :< |
| 15:10.32 | xyu` | i know ; ; |
| 15:12.14 | xyu` | There's a really nice helm if you're horde from a nagrand quest |
| 15:12.25 | xyu` | mag'hari rep |
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| 15:12.35 | xyu` | Ritualistic horns or something |
| 15:15.07 | Pkekyo| | 10 spellcrit and 15int vs. 12 spelldmg, 4mp5 and 3int? |
| 15:15.47 | xyu` | 12 spell dmg |
| 15:17.28 | Pkekyo| | also, scryer > aldor for a mage, no? :p |
| 15:17.37 | xyu` | right |
| 15:17.46 | capullo | depends |
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| 15:17.49 | xyu` | especially since you should be going tailoring |
| 15:17.58 | capullo | thats wrong |
| 15:18.16 | capullo | the receipes are not bop afaik |
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| 15:18.44 | Pkekyo| | I've got tailoring at 300+ allready |
| 15:18.46 | xyu | nah but the epic ring is decent. |
| 15:18.56 | xyu | and you can make you're own spellthreads then :) |
| 15:19.06 | capullo | endgame for the shoulder entchant is aldor better |
| 15:19.12 | xyu | but if you have access to people w/ nethers and are scryer tailors, it's not a big deal which you choose. |
| 15:19.40 | Pkekyo| | I don't |
| 15:19.44 | capullo | i dont have tailoring as mage :P |
| 15:19.46 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 15:19.50 | xyu | what's aldor's shoulder enchant, do you remember off the top of your head? |
| 15:19.55 | capullo | only entchanting and leatherworking |
| 15:20.04 | capullo | i mean head, not shoulder |
| 15:20.08 | capullo | hit |
| 15:20.09 | xyu | You're probably in endgame content though |
| 15:20.17 | xyu | where LW is better |
| 15:20.28 | capullo | since last weekend :P |
| 15:20.35 | capullo | leatherworking in 2 days |
| 15:21.00 | xyu | your gear choices are very limited w/o tailoring, and i think the tailored patters can be used for a very long time |
| 15:21.02 | xyu | before they're replaced. |
| 15:21.20 | xyu | and it's not like it's hard to level tailoring and/or dropping it for something else. |
| 15:21.21 | capullo | yes, some up to black temple |
| 15:21.42 | xyu | i might consider dropping it for LW, but i'm not sure if we'll get anything nifty in sunwell :) |
| 15:21.50 | capullo | i had alchemy before, nerver tailoring |
| 15:21.51 | xyu | probably not |
| 15:23.00 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: reminds me that on sunday some guy whispered me while I was on my mage and asked me whether I was a tailor. After admitting he sent me the receipt for http://thottbot.com/i14128 - because he had it lying on this bank. I didn't even know this guy... |
| 15:24.28 | Pkekyo| | receipt? or recipie? |
| 15:25.09 | SunTsu | Er, wrong one, this recipe: http://thottbot.com/i14152 |
| 15:25.39 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Sorry, excuse my bad english |
| 15:26.03 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: np, sorry I'm a grammarwhore :p |
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| 15:27.46 | Pkekyo| | gz on the recipie SunTsu, geif! |
| 15:28.01 | Pkekyo| | what level items will start giving me arcane dusts and nether essences? |
| 15:28.15 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: No way, won't give it away ;) |
| 15:28.37 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.42 | Wogroipl_ | Pkekyo| green stuff above level 60 requirement |
| 15:29.26 | Pkekyo| | so the requires lvl 61 tailoring stuff is safe to make in other words? |
| 15:29.29 | SNiLD | the main site has disenchant information nowadays |
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| 15:29.45 | Wogroipl_ | yup Pkekyo| |
| 15:30.34 | Pkekyo| | yay, got me some prismatic shards :D |
| 15:31.10 | Pkekyo| | so much cheaper to level a crafting profession as an enchanter :p |
| 15:31.43 | Wogroipl_ | large prismatics are like 40g easy on my server :( |
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| 15:32.10 | mortimer | ouch |
| 15:32.31 | Pkekyo| | so nice to have all the outland FPs once you step through that portal for the first time :p |
| 15:32.39 | mortimer | i buy them for 25g and can sell them for 30g |
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| 15:42.46 | Pkekyo| | anyone know where I can learn to use daggers/swords? |
| 15:44.12 | osstia_ | ask a weapons trainer |
| 15:44.24 | osstia_ | they have a chat bubble for what other trainers teach |
| 15:44.32 | osstia_ | should tell you the location of everything |
| 15:46.15 | Pkekyo| | any weapons trainer in shatt? |
| 15:47.04 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:47.09 | Pkekyo| | bah |
| 15:47.53 | erb | sounds like stormwind |
| 15:48.37 | SunTsu | On allince side this would be woo ping in sw, yes, across the AH |
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| 15:52.33 | Pkekyo| | undercity |
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| 15:58.02 | Funkeh` | yo |
| 15:58.20 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin Funkeh` |
| 15:58.40 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen the movie Teeth? |
| 16:00.19 | Pkekyo| | any lvl 70 enchanters around? |
| 16:01.43 | FinalX | <- |
| 16:02.45 | bigzero | yeah, Pkekyo|...got mats? :-) |
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| 16:05.29 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:05.29 | CIA-4 | - Spell: fix deDE |
| 16:05.32 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: is it profitable to DE all the stuff you don't need on your way to 70, or should I vendor stuff? |
| 16:07.44 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r09f6cac879 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (5 files): Cleanup of user Azuremyst/Bloodmyst guides |
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| 16:08.14 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:08.14 | CIA-4 | - Inventory: fix deDE |
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| 16:09.30 | Pkekyo| | holy shit, american tax payers are paying 25k USD/hour to keep that twat bush safe |
| 16:10.48 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: It is profitable, but not for each and every item. On some items you will lose money, on others you will gain lots of money. to me it always seemed right to DE everything I can't use |
| 16:10.51 | vhaarr | I wouldn't pay a penny to keep him safe even if he was drifting in space without a suit. |
| 16:11.18 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr: I'm glad to hear that :) |
| 16:11.39 | vhaarr | why, is he actually drifting in space without a suit right now? |
| 16:11.42 | vhaarr | or will he soon be? |
| 16:12.00 | vhaarr | I'd actually donate up to 100 EUR to see that happen, I think |
| 16:12.07 | SunTsu | I hope somebody can make him |
| 16:12.13 | vhaarr | (yes, that's RIGHT you fucking FBI bastards monitoring us in here) |
| 16:12.34 | Stan_ | ^^ |
| 16:13.01 | Pkekyo| | nah, I just appreciate your view on the matter, vhaarr :) |
| 16:13.10 | Hjalte | I wonder if Bush is scared of rabbits. |
| 16:13.17 | vhaarr | with this Obama guy I keep wondering whether or not he'll do a good job, but then I remember who's currently in office and it dawns on me that he can't POSSIBLY be worse. |
| 16:13.38 | vhaarr | not that it matters, Norway will soon be the super power of the world anyway |
| 16:13.53 | vhaarr | you think it's a coincidence we're not in the EU? think again! |
| 16:15.03 | Pkekyo| | rofl vhaarr |
| 16:15.47 | SunTsu | Obama might do the greatest job, it's only that I don't think he might have any chance |
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| 16:16.13 | evl | Who careds |
| 16:16.15 | evl | US is DOOOMED |
| 16:16.38 | evl | probably come some new republican war-monger for next president and here we go again |
| 16:17.49 | Pkekyo| | indeed evl |
| 16:20.02 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr: you know the norwegian army is going to be more or less non-existant soon? :p |
| 16:21.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:16] <evl> US is DOOOMED <--if Ron Paul gets voted in, yes |
| 16:21.47 | Pkekyo| | norwegian politicians: "oh we're in NATO now, we don't need armed forces anymore" lollilops |
| 16:22.24 | CIA-4 | 03jayhawk * r58061 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/: |
| 16:22.24 | CIA-4 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 16:22.24 | CIA-4 | - Issue with Externals |
| 16:22.24 | bigzero | lua> next({1,2}) |
| 16:22.25 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1, 1, |
| 16:22.25 | Pkekyo| | they'll soon be bleading from the arseholes |
| 16:22.46 | bigzero | lua> next({}) |
| 16:22.46 | lua_bot | bigzero: nil, |
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| 16:25.06 | Pkekyo| | does hellfire peninsula quests give any UC rep? |
| 16:25.43 | durcyn | don't know of any outlands quests or mobs that give azeroth rep |
| 16:25.51 | FinalX | there are |
| 16:25.57 | FinalX | well, azeroth rep |
| 16:26.09 | FinalX | not sure about undercity. there's at least some giving exodar and silvermoon rep |
| 16:27.05 | Hjalte | Hmm, is eu.wowarmory.com down? |
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| 16:29.15 | bigzero | odds of that being true...95% |
| 16:29.21 | bigzero | without even checking |
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| 16:30.09 | Hjalte | It usually crashes my firefox, but it just downed IE now as well. |
| 16:30.35 | CIA-4 | 03werehamster * r58062 10IFrameManager/ (Frames/Anchor.lua Frames/Overlay.lua IFrameManager.lua): IFrameManager: would you like fries with that? |
| 16:30.51 | RaydenUni | wowarmory.com was down yesterday for maintenance |
| 16:31.08 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 16:31.22 | sag_ich_nicht | there's a white 1.8 weaponspeed 2h axe |
| 16:31.23 | RaydenUni | bigzero does that apply based on schroedinger's cat principle? |
| 16:31.30 | RaydenUni | simply by asking if the site is down, it probably is? |
| 16:34.33 | bigzero | lol...good point RaydenUni. I was just basing it on the observation that it's usually not functioning 95% of the time |
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| 16:35.32 | RaydenUni | yeah well at any given moment i might give it a 50% uptime, but if someone asks, that % would go down drastically simply based on one data point |
| 16:35.51 | RaydenUni | whereas if someone asked if google was down i'd just say no |
| 16:36.11 | durcyn | doesn't matter if it's up, for every profile that loads there are twenty that return 'character data unavailable' |
| 16:36.23 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Based on the observation that skynet isn't down, yet? ;) |
| 16:36.49 | RaydenUni | yeah my profile's been down a long while |
| 16:37.05 | bigzero | RaydenUni, I swear I've seen google down |
| 16:37.06 | RaydenUni | the one profile i pulled up, a resto druid in our guild, was in his feral gear so that was worthless |
| 16:37.10 | RaydenUni | bigzero ONCE |
| 16:37.13 | RaydenUni | in my entire life |
| 16:37.33 | bigzero | well, now i can't trust it to test my internet connection |
| 16:37.42 | bigzero | it's inconclusive if the page doesn't load |
| 16:38.36 | bigzero | RaydenUni, was that recently btw? |
| 16:39.01 | SunTsu | .o0( I think google was down about about 23 years of my life ;) ) |
| 16:39.11 | bigzero | i saw it down like 4 months ago... |
| 16:40.19 | RaydenUni | google? nah years ago |
| 16:40.34 | bigzero | thank god for private servers on tuesday mornings |
| 16:42.16 | RaydenUni | school time |
| 16:42.49 | CIA-4 | 03werehamster * r58063 10coolDown/coolDown.toc: coolDown: Am I getting lucky tonight? |
| 16:43.13 | bigzero | http://royal.pingdom.com/?p=192 |
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| 16:43.45 | bigzero | what is coolDown for anyway? |
| 16:44.04 | xyu | ugh when are they going to fix the armory QQ |
| 16:44.38 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58064 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: fixed a typo |
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| 16:45.18 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking stupid 7[Devastation] why can't they make it a hammer? :( |
| 16:45.32 | bigzero | lol...i tried to click the link :-( |
| 16:45.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 16:45.40 | sag_ich_nicht | that's why i colored it |
| 16:45.55 | sag_ich_nicht | so that addicts will try to click it and realize just how addicted they are |
| 16:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 16:46.15 | xyu | i clicked it, just to be sure. |
| 16:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 16:46.20 | bigzero | only 80% addicted...the click didn't go off |
| 16:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm skilling up 2h axes atm because of the stupid axe |
| 16:46.40 | Amadeo | wow, I clicked it and a tooltip popped up |
| 16:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | they could have at least added some set=weapon skill 350 to the damn axe |
| 16:47.38 | xyu | they figured people that aren't max in all their skills by now should die |
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| 16:48.06 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58065 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: sill changes |
| 16:48.15 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 16:48.21 | cncfanatics | time to study, sigh |
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| 16:48.48 | mitchnull | is the readyspells author here by any chance? :) |
| 16:49.18 | CIA-4 | 03bigzero * r58066 10AutoProfitX/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:49.18 | CIA-4 | AutoProfitX: |
| 16:49.18 | CIA-4 | - Added frFR localization |
| 16:49.18 | CIA-4 | - /autoprofitx is no longer localizable. /apx still is. |
| 16:49.43 | bigzero | who's the author? |
| 16:50.01 | mitchnull | dunno |
| 16:50.05 | bigzero | check toc |
| 16:50.23 | mitchnull | if he's here, he should know, shouldn't he? :) |
| 16:50.29 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58067 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMatE: fixed function ordering |
| 16:51.07 | bigzero | may be afk |
| 16:51.40 | mitchnull | Aldmehr is the author |
| 16:52.29 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, if you asked about one of my mods I probably wouldn't notice except if you pinged me tbh |
| 16:53.07 | mitchnull | cnc: but that's plainly specualtion as nobody would ask about your addons :P |
| 16:53.19 | cncfanatics | says the author of ? |
| 16:53.48 | mitchnull | RangeCheck/RangeDisplay :) you did flexbar2 if I recall correctly, and of course I was just poking you :P |
| 16:54.04 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 16:54.09 | cncfanatics | thats what they all say |
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| 16:54.46 | Sky2042 | bah |
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| 16:55.09 | mitchnull | well, I usually try to avoid hurting ppl's feelings unless I happen to see some fugly code they write. I haven't checked fb2 yet. :P |
| 16:56.15 | cncfanatics | the code ain't too fugly , imo that is |
| 16:56.56 | cncfanatics | go read some ? :p |
| 16:57.07 | mitchnull | anyone bored enough to volunteer for some addon coding? :) |
| 16:57.28 | cncfanatics | maybe, doubt it, as I'm studying :p |
| 16:57.56 | mortimer | bored? yes - bored enough? no |
| 16:59.05 | mitchnull | the spec is: hook UseAction and display "<Action> Cooldown 32 sec" or something similar as an sct-ish critline if the given action is on cooldown |
| 16:59.27 | mitchnull | sounds simple enough |
| 16:59.52 | mitchnull | I'd hack it into readyspells, probly using SinkLib or whatsitsname |
| 17:00.10 | bigzero | it's like 5 lines...why don't you do it? |
| 17:00.15 | mitchnull | imma lazy |
| 17:00.36 | bigzero | you typed more here than would take to type it up lol |
| 17:00.40 | cncfanatics | UseAction won't work tbh |
| 17:00.52 | cncfanatics | UseAction would only work for action addons using actionbuttons :) |
| 17:00.58 | cncfanatics | hint: FB doesn't ;Ã |
| 17:01.15 | mitchnull | well, hook UseAction, CastSpelll, all the rest that's needed |
| 17:01.27 | cncfanatics | yea, that'd work |
| 17:01.29 | bigzero | just castspell i would think |
| 17:01.30 | cncfanatics | few hooks to make |
| 17:01.32 | mitchnull | but UseAction and castspell should be enough |
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| 17:01.47 | cncfanatics | CastSpellByName, UseAction, UseItemByName, UseItemByInventorySlot |
| 17:01.56 | mitchnull | cnc: can you put water ele Freeze on an FB2 button? |
| 17:02.00 | nevcairiel | just use Cooldown_SetTimer imho, dont hook the other stuff |
| 17:02.02 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, not atm |
| 17:02.06 | cncfanatics | I haven't coded on FB since a while |
| 17:02.27 | mitchnull | nevcairiel: how would that help me? |
| 17:02.42 | mitchnull | I'd need to maintain all running cooldowns internally. that sounds like a headache |
| 17:02.42 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, he wants to display a message that something is on cd if its used while on cd |
| 17:02.48 | cncfanatics | I think |
| 17:02.51 | mitchnull | yes |
| 17:02.56 | nevcairiel | oh, thats stupid |
| 17:03.00 | mitchnull | no :) |
| 17:03.21 | mitchnull | I keep pressing frost nova then I need to look down on the bloody icon to see if it's worth pressing a bit more |
| 17:03.21 | kebinusan | Is there a command in oRA you can use to request tank targets instead of having to ask on vent or raid chat for them to be rebroadcast |
| 17:03.32 | nevcairiel | use events |
| 17:03.36 | nevcairiel | UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED |
| 17:03.40 | bigzero | lol..sounds interesting actually, but that would totally spam my screen with cd messaged |
| 17:03.58 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, if you make that |
| 17:04.03 | cncfanatics | ignore cd's less then 1.5 sec |
| 17:04.09 | cncfanatics | cuz rogues for example just spam their skills :p |
| 17:04.12 | mitchnull | bigzero: well, it should re-use the same text are for the most recent message, and let it hoover for 1-2 sec |
| 17:04.30 | bigzero | kebinusan, addons still use manual broadcasting?? |
| 17:04.36 | nevcairiel | UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED has the spellname, thats all you need imho |
| 17:04.53 | mitchnull | nev: not or water elemental freeze |
| 17:05.04 | mitchnull | at least it used to be handled kinda whackily |
| 17:05.07 | nevcairiel | what do i care about sucky mages |
| 17:05.11 | Estil | Warlocks in S2 or S3 level gears have about 2000 armor withfull set right? |
| 17:05.20 | nevcairiel | and i am pretty sure it'll fire too |
| 17:05.24 | nevcairiel | with arg1=pet |
| 17:05.35 | bigzero | UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED may fire if you're currently casting something and spamming too |
| 17:05.35 | mitchnull | nev: maybe, but you can't query its CD |
| 17:05.42 | cncfanatics | arena geared warlocks are worth sundering/expose armor'ing, as are all S3 geared clothies |
| 17:05.59 | mitchnull | nev: at least not without mucking around |
| 17:06.00 | cncfanatics | GetCooldownByName ? |
| 17:06.02 | Estil | so about 2000 armor? :o |
| 17:06.12 | cncfanatics | I think so yes, Estil |
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| 17:06.21 | cncfanatics | just armory an S3 geared clothie tbh |
| 17:06.48 | Estil | can't |
| 17:06.48 | mitchnull | cnc: for some reason none of the cooldown monitoring addons handle WE Freeze. last I checked it could only be done by monitoring the petbar button |
| 17:06.52 | Estil | armory freezes firefox |
| 17:06.54 | Estil | :( |
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| 17:07.02 | mitchnull | estil: upgrade to opera |
| 17:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 17:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 17:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | you there? |
| 17:07.40 | mitchnull | cnc: but I'll take a look at GetCooldownByName |
| 17:07.42 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, I personaly prefer firefox 2 |
| 17:07.47 | wereHamster | Estil, I've heard that FF3 is much faster that FF2 |
| 17:07.50 | mitchnull | cnc: good for you ;) |
| 17:07.57 | cncfanatics | firefox 3 ? where ? |
| 17:08.03 | cncfanatics | oh , btw, welcome back wereHamster |
| 17:08.04 | kergoth | yeah ff3 is quite a bit speedier |
| 17:08.15 | nevcairiel | ff3b2 works pretty nice |
| 17:08.23 | cncfanatics | where to get ff3 ? :o |
| 17:08.23 | wereHamster | beta, but I've been using it since alpha days and never had problems |
| 17:08.25 | mitchnull | cnc: they stole most of the nice features from opera by now, so FF is not as bad as it used to be (feature wise) |
| 17:08.37 | mitchnull | although you still need at least 10 addons for it to make it usable |
| 17:08.38 | wereHamster | absolutely like 'Places' :) |
| 17:08.45 | nevcairiel | i've never missed features in FF |
| 17:08.50 | nevcairiel | always thought opera was pure bloat |
| 17:08.51 | cncfanatics | I do like the speed dial in opera |
| 17:08.53 | cncfanatics | it owns |
| 17:09.01 | wereHamster | google.com?q=firefox+3+beta ? |
| 17:09.04 | mitchnull | nev: you never know those features existed then (and never used them obviously) |
| 17:09.08 | cncfanatics | I'll do thay later then, wereHamster |
| 17:09.10 | mitchnull | s/know/knew/ |
| 17:09.13 | kergoth | i love ff3's enhanced completion, so it completes bookmark names and page titles and crap, without need for the completion extension |
| 17:09.25 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: For me FF uses more resources than opera ever did |
| 17:09.47 | Funkeh` | so |
| 17:09.50 | Funkeh` | with the new patch |
| 17:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:08] <wereHamster> beta, but I've been using it since alpha days and never had problems <--go to wowfix.com and you'll have one right there |
| 17:09.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:09.56 | Funkeh` | what are rogues speccing |
| 17:10.05 | nevcairiel | i've only used opera back when its table rendering sucked ass, and why should i ever go back .. keep opera away :P |
| 17:10.07 | kergoth | there are a few gecko based alternatives to ff, most of which are faster, but then you lose extensions, which blows |
| 17:10.08 | wereHamster | I'm using my own ff build because mozilla refuses to fix FF on dual-monitor setups, that kinda sucks :( |
| 17:10.20 | cncfanatics | Funkeh , some points in assa (always), and some points in another tree |
| 17:10.23 | cncfanatics | in my case, that would be comba |
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| 17:10.45 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics, was thinking more of talent tree links, but ok ;p |
| 17:10.46 | mitchnull | the only thing I don't really like in FF now is the way it handles tabs. that stupid scrolling is lame |
| 17:10.59 | mitchnull | oh, and the fact that it's javascript engine is single-threaded |
| 17:11.00 | nevcairiel | what scrolling? |
| 17:11.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i found an... interesting bug in Threat-1.0 |
| 17:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | but it might be intended behaviour |
| 17:11.22 | mitchnull | nev: if you have many tabs open, you need to scroll left-right to find them |
| 17:11.24 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: you always claim that you find unique bugs, check yourself first :P |
| 17:11.42 | nevcairiel | mitchnull: i've always wondered why people open that many tabs anyway o.O :D |
| 17:11.44 | cncfanatics | Funkeh |
| 17:11.50 | cncfanatics | armory evolve from kazzak EU |
| 17:11.52 | wereHamster | mitchnull, you can use the mouse wheel to scroll throgh the tabs :) |
| 17:11.57 | mitchnull | nev: google search results usually |
| 17:11.58 | cncfanatics | !c eu kazzak evolve |
| 17:12.00 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Orc Rogue (19/42/0). 8454 HP; 1512 AP; 334.000 Melee DPS; 23.15% melee crit; 187 melee hit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 24.92% dodge; 10 resilience; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 1841 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yus4em ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mk42h ][ Updated: Tue Jan 8 12:17:54 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:12.04 | cncfanatics | there you go |
| 17:12.34 | mitchnull | what I'd like to see in opera (from ff) though is the flash-on-demand thing of flashblocker plugin |
| 17:13.10 | SunTsu | mitchnull: What I's like to see in FF is working plugins after upgrades ;) |
| 17:13.15 | cncfanatics | Funkeh, why you need rogue specs ? thats a PvE spec btw |
| 17:13.29 | Funkeh` | just looking |
| 17:13.40 | mitchnull | btw, how's Ace3 going along? |
| 17:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe someone can verify, go to about 50,23 in shadowmoon valley, engage Lakaan while he's under his shield, kill one of the nearby water elementals (make sure to not get out of combat in between) then alternate targets between the dead water elemental and Lakaan and watch the TPS value in Omen/Threat-1.0 |
| 17:14.35 | nevcairiel | so what does it show, and what did you expect? |
| 17:14.41 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't properly reset tps on mob death it seems, but maybe this is intended behaviour because of multi same name situations? |
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| 17:15.36 | cncfanatics | if(UnitStatus("target") == "Dead") return "0"; end |
| 17:15.40 | cncfanatics | but keep the value internaly |
| 17:15.50 | cncfanatics | that would be an easy enough fix for dead mobs |
| 17:16.35 | mitchnull | the enhanced combat log thing is coming in 2.4 only, right? |
| 17:16.45 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: that thing spawns 4 mobs with the same name, right? how should it know which mob you did your tps on? |
| 17:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: no, it doesn't. Lakaan is just immun to everything and doesn't attack you |
| 17:18.05 | bigzero | he's talking about a different elemental |
| 17:18.11 | bigzero | not the ones that spawn from totems |
| 17:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm skilling my weapon on him but one of the elementals running around there aggroed so i killed it |
| 17:18.27 | nevcairiel | global TPS maybe? |
| 17:18.55 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, it said water elemental. for the dead mob. |
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| 17:21.27 | sag_ich_nicht | also i just had an idea that you could track different mobs with the same name if you compare their hp and the damaging abilities outgoing from players(this would of course need estimations like mobinfo2 provide any kind of useful information), but it would probably be complex and a bit unreliable for quite some time, and since 2.4 is coming up it's not worth any time... but i had to type the idea out :P |
| 17:21.58 | nevcairiel | that idea isnt new |
| 17:22.01 | nevcairiel | its just not viable |
| 17:22.02 | wereHamster | what will 2.4 have? unique mob IDs? |
| 17:22.06 | kebinusan | bigzero: I dunno, I get asked about 6 times a night to rebroadcast mt targets tho |
| 17:22.27 | Zhinjio | am I reading this right? Hunters can now freeze trap as many critters as their cooldown will allow? |
| 17:22.55 | osstia_ | Is it the ice block trap, or the slowing trap? |
| 17:23.26 | Zhinjio | Freezing Trap |
| 17:23.29 | Zhinjio | which one is that? |
| 17:23.38 | sag_ich_nicht | iceblock. |
| 17:23.43 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: hunters have always been able to do that until 2.3.0 |
| 17:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
| 17:24.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i remember a very skilled survival hunter i know traping 3 mobs at the same time |
| 17:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (he also kited the princess from maraudon to death at her intended level, alone, but that's a different story) |
| 17:25.54 | Arrowmaster | the hunters that can pull it off are the ones you dont want to piss off and make them quit because theyre very good unlike the rest of the hunter population |
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| 17:26.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. :> |
| 17:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you also wouldn't want to piss them off in pvp |
| 17:27.06 | sag_ich_nicht | because the would rape your ass, hard. |
| 17:27.25 | cncfanatics | depends on your class |
| 17:27.39 | cncfanatics | I tend to think of myself as a quite ok rogue, and I can take hunters easy if I get the first hit |
| 17:28.00 | SunTsu | Woah, nice show, Ellipsis |
| 17:28.04 | cncfanatics | how would a girl go at raping a guy, Ellipsis ? |
| 17:28.18 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics it involves a strap on, i guess |
| 17:28.27 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: it's quite simple once you've got them tied up securely... |
| 17:28.44 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, how would a 50kg girl manage to tie up a guy ? -.- |
| 17:28.55 | Ellipsis | well that's why it's not simple to do that part :( |
| 17:28.57 | Estil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773314168&sid=1 |
| 17:29.02 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: sedation, i assume |
| 17:29.08 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, true |
| 17:29.23 | Ellipsis | also, I'm not quite 50kg :( |
| 17:29.47 | SunTsu | 49,5? |
| 17:35.17 | Zhinjio | If y'all have a few minutes of time, and acknowledging that it doesn't do much yet, would anyone mind hitting http://www.wow-crafting.com/ and doing some usability testing, please? |
| 17:35.25 | Zhinjio | Any comments are, of course, welcome. |
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| 17:35.34 | Fisker- | it sucks |
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| 17:36.00 | Zhinjio | Your respective comments, will be weighted by how much respect I have for you, of course. |
| 17:36.22 | cncfanatics | does anyone respect Fisker- ? |
| 17:36.29 | Fisker- | what is it about Zhinjio ? |
| 17:36.49 | Zhinjio | it will with any luck replace the current "Rare Craftables" threads on all the wow-forums. |
| 17:36.59 | Zhinjio | and allow you to rate the crafters with your experiences with them |
| 17:37.07 | cncfanatics | why reload the page when you select a realm ? |
| 17:37.14 | cncfanatics | should use javascript to alter the main page |
| 17:37.29 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:37.30 | cncfanatics | and not search at all till it is actualy meaningful |
| 17:37.33 | Fisker- | you can register an empty account |
| 17:37.41 | Fisker- | i win |
| 17:37.42 | Fisker- | you lose |
| 17:37.52 | Ellipsis | also, according to google, I'm around 44kg |
| 17:37.55 | Zhinjio | it could theoretically change a search query that is already happening. |
| 17:38.06 | Zhinjio | or that is already in play |
| 17:38.07 | Fisker- | where's enchanting? |
| 17:38.14 | Zhinjio | ooo, weird. |
| 17:38.15 | cncfanatics | Zhinijo, what am I suposed to do when I selected an item ? |
| 17:38.28 | Zhinjio | eventually, it will llist the crafters on your server who can make that item |
| 17:38.35 | cncfanatics | not listing shit ^^ |
| 17:38.38 | Zhinjio | given that there isn't any crafter data in there yet, though ... nothing. |
| 17:38.41 | cncfanatics | and you should put in a faction selection too |
| 17:38.51 | cncfanatics | as on PvP servers there's no way to reliably trade with the other faction |
| 17:38.51 | bigzero | lua> a = { ["1"] = "a" }; print(a[1]) |
| 17:38.51 | lua_bot | bigzero: nil |
| 17:39.30 | exor674 | and I would remove the "Pattern: " prefix |
| 17:39.37 | Fisker- | the site is a mess though |
| 17:39.38 | Fisker- | :I |
| 17:39.48 | Zhinjio | yeah, I have to do some pretty serious pruning out of the items still. |
| 17:39.48 | cncfanatics | the layout could use some work indeed |
| 17:39.51 | cncfanatics | more javascript please |
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| 17:40.54 | bigzero | Zhinjio, Recipe: Alchemist's Stone and Alchemist's Stone are both listed for alchemy |
| 17:41.03 | Zhinjio | yes. thats what I mean by pruning. |
| 17:41.20 | Zhinjio | you can thank alakhazam for that. |
| 17:41.23 | Fisker- | wowwiki > your idea :( |
| 17:41.45 | cncfanatics | pretty good idea tbh |
| 17:41.49 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: What's different in trading between factions on pve and pvp servers? |
| 17:42.02 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, you can't make other faction chars on PvP servers |
| 17:42.16 | cncfanatics | you can on PvE servers, making the trade eh, slightly easyer as you can actualy talk with them |
| 17:42.45 | Ellipsis | you can just use 2 accounts on a pvp server |
| 17:42.48 | Hjalte | I see. I didn't know you could do that on pve servers. |
| 17:42.51 | Ellipsis | or get an IRC friend to help you :P |
| 17:42.54 | bigzero | Zhinjio, the tooltip that gets displayed for "About this site" link is way up there...hard to get it to not get cut off |
| 17:43.23 | Zhinjio | bigzero, what resolution? |
| 17:43.38 | bigzero | 1280x800 |
| 17:44.31 | Zhinjio | hmm. ok. |
| 17:44.38 | Zhinjio | would smaller text in that tooltip help? |
| 17:44.50 | bigzero | Zhinjio, what realm would have data for it...kinda hard to tell you how good your site is if I can't see any data |
| 17:45.04 | bigzero | Zhinjio, imo that should just be a link to a different page |
| 17:45.29 | Zhinjio | I'll let you know once I've added the ability to add/modify toons in the db. |
| 17:45.36 | Zhinjio | and then we can look at that |
| 17:46.00 | bigzero | lol...so what did you want us to look at again? |
| 17:46.19 | Zhinjio | exactly the kinds of things you're already noting. |
| 17:47.23 | bigzero | heh, i like how instead of putting a link to reset the search criteria you have a link that redirects you to a link to reset it |
| 17:47.52 | bigzero | and then a long description of how to reset it |
| 17:48.05 | Zhinjio | well, the link just returns you to the homepage with no options set. |
| 17:48.06 | bigzero | well, long is relative, but still |
| 17:48.21 | Zhinjio | which is the same as resetting th form, effectively |
| 17:48.25 | xyu | hmm i want an addon that automatically reports all players in a bg as AFK ;P woo |
| 17:48.28 | bigzero | still, just make a link "Reset search criteria" |
| 17:48.37 | bigzero | xyu, /agree |
| 17:48.49 | xyu | a "just in case" report :P |
| 17:49.16 | cncfanatics | xyu, what does reporting someone in BG exactly do again ? |
| 17:49.28 | xyu | It will make them "inactive" and they are unable to receive honor |
| 17:49.30 | xyu | for the duration of the BG |
| 17:49.33 | bigzero | kicks them out effectively..if they don't respond fast enough |
| 17:49.54 | bigzero | oh, hmmmm...i need to do a couple bgs |
| 17:50.03 | xyu | Most people only reprt the ones near the starting areas |
| 17:50.06 | xyu | but afk'ers are getting sneaky |
| 17:50.06 | bigzero | i think it's been a good 8 months since i've entered a b |
| 17:50.08 | bigzero | bg |
| 17:50.09 | xyu | and afk'ing at nodes |
| 17:50.16 | xyu | or under bridges |
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| 17:50.55 | xyu | if a bunch of people just had an addon that automatically reported everyone in the raid then those who never enter combat will not get honor |
| 17:50.59 | bigzero | Zhinjio, the dropdown list should probably remember what I selected...it's confusing |
| 17:51.01 | xyu | and those who do will be unflagged |
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| 17:51.27 | bigzero | Zhinjio, oh and allakhazam is evil |
| 17:51.32 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.33 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 17:51.38 | bigzero | why not use wowhead? |
| 17:51.44 | cncfanatics | why doesn't blizz make everyone that didn't fight since 5 minutes not gain any honor ? |
| 17:51.45 | bigzero | they give you xml data as well |
| 17:51.47 | cncfanatics | would be way more useful |
| 17:52.09 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: So, what would a deffer do when nobody attacks him? |
| 17:52.11 | Arrowmaster | well you can be defending and not go into combat |
| 17:52.11 | xyu | cncfanatics: i know, they're report thing is pretty lame. It's quite easy to circumvent in my opinion. |
| 17:52.38 | bigzero | Zhinjio, add &xml to the items url...it's undocumented i think |
| 17:52.40 | kenlyric | it's not easy if you're afk.... |
| 17:52.54 | bigzero | Zhinjio, and only works for items last time i checked |
| 17:52.57 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, a deffer ? |
| 17:52.58 | kenlyric | all the circumvention methods I hear require you to be there :) |
| 17:53.04 | cncfanatics | ah, defender :p |
| 17:53.11 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: yeah ;) |
| 17:53.12 | Arrowmaster | most afkers arent afk |
| 17:53.14 | Zhinjio | got it. looking at what they include. |
| 17:53.14 | Arrowmaster | they just wont fight |
| 17:53.17 | cncfanatics | if you just stand at the camp & don't do shit, you don't deserve honor |
| 17:53.24 | cncfanatics | thats afk'ing imo :p |
| 17:53.36 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: I'm defending the npcs. |
| 17:53.36 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: But defending bases is crucial |
| 17:53.39 | xyu | Arrowmaster: yep, but if they're constantly reported by an addon that automatically does it, then they won't get honor :P |
| 17:53.43 | xyu | and i'm perfectly fine with that. |
| 17:53.46 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
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| 17:54.02 | bigzero | Zhinjio, i guess since spell data isn't xml'ed yet, it's no good to you |
| 17:54.28 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Arathi basin for instance does not work when nobody stays at the flags to defend them in case the other side wants to get them |
| 17:54.29 | FireAllianceNX | where do I report bugs for WoWAceUpdater 2? |
| 17:54.30 | xyu | some "Defenders" who legitly defend may be reported falsly but you have to crack some omelets to make an egg |
| 17:54.44 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, you'll get in a combat more then once every 5 mins tbh |
| 17:54.53 | bigzero | Zhinjio, though, a little perl parsing and you should get eerything you need from the list in wowhead. i do that for my addons |
| 17:54.58 | Zhinjio | as it stands, I have basically one small element of cleanup to do, and then I'm good. |
| 17:54.59 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: No, not neccessarily |
| 17:55.40 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: There were bgs I was prowling around some base, but not having a single fight |
| 17:55.46 | Zhinjio | I need the correlation between the item and the recipe in my separateed db. so it shouldn't be too hard to do. |
| 17:55.56 | SunTsu | Just nobody wanted to take that base |
| 17:56.21 | xyu | its rare but happens |
| 17:56.58 | Zhinjio | thanks for the feedback, guys. |
| 17:57.04 | Zhinjio | just what I needed. |
| 17:57.33 | bigzero | Zhinjio, i think someone said this already, but I can log in as blank blank |
| 17:57.39 | SunTsu | The whole battleground is about strategy, which does not neccessarily mean fighting |
| 17:57.40 | xyu | afk'ers are even appearing in WSG, AB, Eye etc. QQ |
| 17:57.50 | Zhinjio | yup. |
| 17:58.01 | Zhinjio | I'll add some better checking in for username correctness |
| 17:58.05 | kenlyric | it's harder to hide from people in WSG |
| 17:58.18 | kenlyric | you just get sheer numbers in AV. |
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| 17:58.30 | xyu | it's easy to hide from people, because people dont report |
| 17:58.32 | xyu | in WSG |
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| 17:58.53 | xyu | you just stand on the roof of your base |
| 17:58.56 | xyu | and you're "Defending" |
| 17:59.05 | kenlyric | "I'm not AFK. I'm just waiting for you fuckers to lose" |
| 17:59.23 | xyu | i think if you get afk flagged by reporting you should be removed from the bg |
| 17:59.29 | xyu | and get the deserter debuff |
| 17:59.35 | Arrowmaster | the only bg where if your not in combat every so often means you really are afk is the zerg fest that is eots |
| 17:59.50 | kenlyric | xyu: I'd just sit there all day reporting people |
| 18:00.00 | xyu | so would i! :D |
| 18:00.09 | kenlyric | it would be far more fun than a BG |
| 18:00.17 | SunTsu | xyu: I do report if I am sure somebody is afking. Just like the guy that stood around while a base was attacked in arathi. After turning down the attack he suddenly began to move again. I asked him whether he was fallen asleep, he responded "No, just away to take lunch" |
| 18:00.21 | xyu | when we could use hardpacked snowballs in AV i used to go to the AFK tunnel and throw snowballs at the afk'ers and knock them out of the instance portal. |
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| 18:00.25 | xyu | it was the most fun ever |
| 18:01.01 | Arrowmaster | i went to take a piss and some fucker was trying to do that to me |
| 18:01.06 | xyu | i report the whole bg as it starts. just in case. it's not hard to get in combat. at least make the afk'ers work a little. |
| 18:01.27 | kenlyric | look |
| 18:01.33 | kenlyric | take a piss on your own time, fucker |
| 18:01.46 | kenlyric | we got graveyards to cap |
| 18:02.02 | bigzero | lol |
| 18:02.10 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck am i downloading something from usenet that was posted on the 23rd.... my isps usenet server isnt this good |
| 18:02.34 | bigzero | on our server people in AV report those defending lol |
| 18:04.57 | Xinhuan | xyu, you can't report the whole BG |
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| 18:05.21 | xyu | why not? |
| 18:05.31 | Xinhuan | there is a limit (which blizzard says it exists, but refuses to tell us the exact number), where if you report people above this number, the excess reports just gets thrown away silently |
| 18:05.40 | xyu | click over the minimap, click "Report all of the abovce" |
| 18:05.43 | xyu | above* |
| 18:05.53 | xyu | hmm |
| 18:05.55 | Xinhuan | yeah so you attempt to report 40 people, but only 10 or so people gets reported |
| 18:06.04 | Xinhuan | the other 30 is ignored silently and doesn't get reported |
| 18:06.10 | xyu | is there a cooldown? |
| 18:06.10 | Xinhuan | this is to prevent addon abuse |
| 18:06.15 | Xinhuan | blizz didn't say |
| 18:06.20 | Xinhuan | this was a blue post about 2 months back |
| 18:06.25 | xyu | ah~ |
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| 18:06.34 | Xinhuan | and "10 or so" is just a guess on my part |
| 18:07.21 | xyu | if the addon breaks the 40 man down into sections and peole w/ the addon will report different "sections" of the raid |
| 18:07.27 | xyu | all 40 will eventually be reported |
| 18:07.45 | xyu | three people with the addon will report groups 1-2, 3 people get 3,4 etc. |
| 18:08.03 | Ellipsis | yes but why would you want to report the entire raid? |
| 18:08.20 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: it's more efficient. |
| 18:08.27 | xyu | If it's done automatic |
| 18:08.28 | kenlyric | report the entire raid, non afk will drop the debuff. |
| 18:08.33 | xyu | then you don't need to worry about cathcing afk'ers |
| 18:08.38 | xyu | those who are afk will get flag, those who are not will not. |
| 18:08.46 | kenlyric | in fact, blizzard should just do that. |
| 18:08.54 | xyu | except a few defenders , but i'm willing to sacrifice them :P |
| 18:08.57 | Cartas | I don't know many people who AFK at the start, actually. |
| 18:09.08 | xyu | don't do it at the start, t he addon can be delayed |
| 18:09.08 | bigzero | so then you go kill a random mob and afk |
| 18:09.12 | xyu | 5 minute delay |
| 18:09.15 | Cartas | Hm |
| 18:09.16 | xyu | let them get nice and comfy |
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| 18:09.31 | Cartas | So I'm just about to kill a person, and BAM, I get the 0 honour thing just as he dies? :o |
| 18:09.38 | Cartas | Zomgz. |
| 18:09.45 | bigzero | lol |
| 18:09.59 | Cartas | Hm, maybe if they added some sort of timer, it could work. |
| 18:10.06 | Cartas | If you don't say you're not AFK within 5-10s. |
| 18:10.17 | SunTsu | I know that afkers are some kind of annoying, but this just goes over the top... |
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| 18:10.37 | xyu | why? :D |
| 18:10.50 | bigzero | people used to not have as much of a problem with this when there was no way to report afk |
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| 18:11.05 | xyu | They did, there was just nothing to be done |
| 18:11.27 | SunTsu | xyu: Because you would have people do the big zerg instead of strategical thinking and fighting. Even more than it happens today |
| 18:11.36 | kenlyric | lol |
| 18:11.42 | kenlyric | how do you get any more than 100% |
| 18:11.49 | Wogroipl_ | why does Numen not show the Totemic Recall button for me? |
| 18:11.51 | Cartas | So, you think it's more strategic if loads of people are AFKing? :o |
| 18:12.05 | xyu | You can still defend, you just don't defend the towers when NO ONE IS there. |
| 18:12.29 | xyu | you defend iceblood, if a tower gets ninja capped you send 2-3 to get it back. |
| 18:12.31 | Wogroipl_ | in the Dewdrop menu there's 2 options for Weapon buff, but no recall :( |
| 18:12.33 | xyu | (horde speaking) |
| 18:12.50 | Fisker- | Xinhuan it was more like 5 or so |
| 18:12.54 | Fisker- | atleast on EU |
| 18:13.00 | Cartas | Julius Caesar: Let's only take 1/2 of our army to this battle, it'll make it more strategic! |
| 18:13.01 | SunTsu | xyu: What is the point in defending something? Right, to prevent somebody taking it. So hwo do you defend when you have to be somewhere else to figt? |
| 18:13.02 | Cartas | That works :P |
| 18:13.03 | Fisker- | i don't get it though |
| 18:13.17 | Fisker- | why would they want to restrict people like that :o |
| 18:13.53 | RaydenU | it's all down? |
| 18:13.58 | xyu | because 80% of the people back in the base are not there for defense, they're there to soak up honor |
| 18:14.12 | xyu | and it doesn't take 10 people to defend 2 towers from 1 rogue |
| 18:14.27 | SunTsu | xyu: But from an attack of more people+ |
| 18:14.58 | Cartas | That's how it is in any BG, xyu. Say in AB, you're fighting at a flag, and there's only one enemy left, and ~6 of you on him. |
| 18:15.08 | Cartas | They just stay there to kill him rather than some running off and mounting up... |
| 18:15.09 | alext | the new afk way (or at least new to me) is to keep using the trinket to recall |
| 18:15.10 | xyu | If there is an attack of more people, then more friendlies will come, |
| 18:15.14 | alext | therefore putting you in combat |
| 18:15.27 | alext | since most likely horde are in the area |
| 18:15.32 | xyu | Cartas: yeah that is classic. |
| 18:15.43 | xyu | I love it when 1 person can make 6 people demount and attack him |
| 18:15.48 | Cartas | I love that because I'm always there in prot gear and such :) |
| 18:15.54 | xyu | especially when it's like halfway between mine and stables or something |
| 18:15.57 | Cartas | Keeping loads of alliance in the middle of nowhere, lol |
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| 18:16.58 | bigzero | lua> a = "a"; assert(loadstring("print(a)"))() |
| 18:16.59 | lua_bot | bigzero: |
| 18:17.09 | bigzero | lua> a = "a"; assert(loadstring("print('a')"))() |
| 18:17.09 | lua_bot | bigzero: |
| 18:18.17 | bigzero | lua> loadstring("print('a')")() |
| 18:18.17 | lua_bot | bigzero: |
| 18:18.28 | bigzero | wth...how does this work? |
| 18:18.34 | xyu | bigzero: |
| 18:18.43 | bigzero | umm...i see that |
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| 18:19.20 | bigzero | seriously though. is it lua_bot or am i doing something wrong |
| 18:20.18 | cncfanatics | lua> a = "a"; print(a); |
| 18:20.18 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: a |
| 18:20.39 | cncfanatics | lua> a = "a"; assert(loadstring("print(a)")); |
| 18:20.39 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: |
| 18:21.25 | bigzero | lua manual says: To load and run a given string, use the idiom |
| 18:21.25 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.21 | cncfanatics | lua>assert(loadstring("print(\"test\""))() |
| 18:22.22 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: [string "assert(loadstring("print(\"test\""))()"]:1: [string "print("test""]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 18:22.33 | cncfanatics | lua>assert(loadstring("print(\"test\")"))() |
| 18:22.33 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: |
| 18:22.45 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58068 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: basic iterator added |
| 18:24.09 | bigzero | lua> assert(loadstring("print(1)"))() |
| 18:24.09 | lua_bot | bigzero: |
| 18:26.33 | bigzero | works fine in wow..must be lua_bot |
| 18:26.43 | Lukian | hmm how do I remove an iptables entry? |
| 18:26.56 | cncfanatics | Lukian: what distro ? |
| 18:26.58 | SunTsu | Lukian: iptables -D |
| 18:26.58 | Xinhuan | you didn't run anything |
| 18:27.04 | Xinhuan | as your brackets are in the wrong place |
| 18:27.05 | Lukian | cncfanatics, debian |
| 18:27.07 | kenlyric | do the clock speeds in RAM and in front-side bus need to match? |
| 18:27.12 | cncfanatics | Lukian: apt-get remove dpkg :) |
| 18:27.20 | kenlyric | random off-topic question I know. |
| 18:27.29 | cncfanatics | (hint: don't run that) |
| 18:27.39 | Lukian | cncfanatics, haha, yeah I know what that does :p |
| 18:27.53 | bigzero | Xinhuan, refering to the loadstring? |
| 18:27.57 | cncfanatics | it eh, screws your system bad |
| 18:28.07 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 18:29.06 | Lukian | SunTsu, hmm, how do I list entries to determine the entry number to delete? |
| 18:29.36 | Xinhuan | lua> print( loadstring("return 2")() ) |
| 18:29.36 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2 |
| 18:29.51 | Xinhuan | i dont' think lua_bot likes print()s inside a loadstring function |
| 18:29.58 | Lukian | ah sorry, just woke up, found it :) |
| 18:30.08 | Xinhuan | when luabot is already doing a loadstring on our irc input |
| 18:30.08 | SunTsu | Lukian: iptables -L |
| 18:30.27 | SunTsu | Lukian: netfilter.org is the place you want to visit |
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| 18:30.48 | SunTsu | Lukian: You can even give the rule itself after -D |
| 18:31.10 | Lukian | SunTsu, interesting enough it appears the rule I was after doesn't exist :) |
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| 18:31.48 | kneeki | 'ello everyone! |
| 18:33.45 | kagaro | fyi for those interested new mac pros are out .. zomg sexy |
| 18:35.12 | Xinhuan | whats the difference |
| 18:35.13 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 18:35.14 | RaydenU | where can i find patch info for 2.3.2? |
| 18:35.20 | RaydenU | i think priests are the only class to not get any changes |
| 18:35.31 | xyu | RaydenU: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php |
| 18:35.34 | Xinhuan | mmochampion |
| 18:35.34 | NivFreak | I'm pretty happy with my priest atm |
| 18:35.40 | kneeki | Warlocks didn't get any changes either. |
| 18:35.43 | Xinhuan | or go to the PTR forum and click on the patch notes |
| 18:35.47 | xyu | RaydenU: more specifically, http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php#notes |
| 18:35.48 | RaydenU | yeah i have no real complaints |
| 18:35.57 | RaydenU | but it's the one class i care about so i wanted to see what changed |
| 18:35.59 | RaydenU | but no changes! |
| 18:36.08 | RaydenU | well, i still want some real threat management for spriests |
| 18:36.11 | RaydenU | but that's a huge change |
| 18:36.13 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 18:36.19 | NivFreak | they already yanked the AV change? |
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| 18:36.46 | RaydenU | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.14 | xyu | Increased the range of leatherworking drums to 40 yards. Drums of Panic remains unchanged at 8 yards. |
| 18:37.16 | xyu | cool! |
| 18:37.22 | xyu | i just may drop tailoring for LW |
| 18:37.46 | kneeki | Can you use engineer bombs in Arena? I forget -_- |
| 18:37.51 | xyu | cannot |
| 18:37.58 | kneeki | Shucks |
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| 18:39.10 | Wogroipl_ | O.o my PC switched to 640x480 resolution, with 16 colors :( |
| 18:39.57 | Cartas | Oh yeh? |
| 18:40.10 | RaydenU | "Clockwork Rocket Bots will no longer attack each other in Shattrath City." <-- this is a bug? |
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| 18:40.21 | NivFreak | * Freezing Trap is no longer limited to one target at a time. |
| 18:40.25 | NivFreak | does that mean what I think it does? |
| 18:40.38 | Cartas | ... |
| 18:40.43 | Cartas | It means the world is coming to an end. |
| 18:40.50 | bigzero | Xinhuan, ah, gotcha |
| 18:40.54 | NivFreak | does that mean hunters can AoE freeze trap? |
| 18:41.03 | Cartas | Hm |
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| 18:41.10 | Cartas | Maybe freezing trap is the one that slow downs? |
| 18:41.13 | Cartas | slows down*! |
| 18:41.19 | NivFreak | I don't think so |
| 18:41.22 | Cartas | Bleh. |
| 18:41.34 | Xinhuan | bigzero, loadstring() simply takes the input string, and put a "function() end" around it and returns this function |
| 18:41.34 | NivFreak | Freezing TrapRank 3 |
| 18:41.34 | NivFreak | 100 Mana |
| 18:41.34 | NivFreak | Instant cast30 sec cooldown |
| 18:41.35 | NivFreak | Place a frost trap that freezes the first enemy that approaches, preventing all action for up to 20 sec. Any damage caused will break the ice. Trap will exist for 1 min. Only one trap can be active at a time. |
| 18:42.17 | RaydenU | i really like the new ZA weapon art |
| 18:42.19 | RaydenU | the bow especially |
| 18:42.31 | Fisker- | bah i hate flame patch |
| 18:42.32 | Fisker- | fuck you :( |
| 18:44.43 | cncfanatics | lua>assert(loadstring("print(\"a\")")()); |
| 18:44.44 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: [string "assert(loadstring("print(\"a\")")());"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'assert' (value expected) |
| 18:47.08 | RaydenU | i love this school |
| 18:47.17 | RaydenU | 2 of my 3 professors have asked me to play wow in class |
| 18:47.27 | RaydenU | demonstrate it specifically |
| 18:47.35 | RaydenU | unfortunately today all the servers are down |
| 18:47.54 | CIA-4 | 03oridan * r58069 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc options.lua): |
| 18:47.54 | CIA-4 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:47.54 | CIA-4 | - added support for mouseover tracking |
| 18:47.54 | CIA-4 | - audio reminders |
| 18:48.03 | Ellipsis | my profs played WoW... |
| 18:48.06 | Ellipsis | you go to the wrong school imo |
| 18:48.13 | Fisker- | no Cartas |
| 18:48.19 | Fisker- | it means that it works like it's always done |
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| 18:48.53 | Cartas | What? |
| 18:49.11 | Arrowmaster | it means it works exactly like it did before 2.3.0 |
| 18:49.16 | Fisker- | freezing trap |
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| 18:49.33 | Arrowmaster | they nerfed it in 2.3.0, the unnerfed it in 2.3.2 |
| 18:49.35 | Amadeo | lol, I like the time the servers are expected to come back up |
| 18:49.37 | Cartas | It can freeze more than one person? |
| 18:49.39 | Amadeo | Not 12, but 12:01! |
| 18:49.57 | Amadeo | I'm glad Blizzard is so precise now ;) |
| 18:50.06 | Fisker- | Cartas not a freezing trap |
| 18:50.11 | NivFreak | Cartas: no, you can lay another trap when your CD is up, but before the other expires |
| 18:50.17 | NivFreak | if it's the old way |
| 18:50.18 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 18:50.27 | Cartas | Nerf huntr. |
| 18:50.29 | Cartas | hunter*. |
| 18:50.29 | Fisker- | You could trap 2 if you were strategic enough with your traps |
| 18:50.45 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:50.52 | NivFreak | that's fine |
| 18:50.55 | Cartas | So it's basically no difference to hunters, I suppose? :D |
| 18:50.59 | NivFreak | I was worried that they made it have an AoE freeze |
| 18:51.03 | Cartas | They still could use a nerf, however. |
| 18:52.10 | Amadeo | It's pretty good that you can name almost any class and say they need a nerf, that has to mean something ;) |
| 18:52.25 | NivFreak | * Clockwork Rocket Bots will no longer attack each other in Shattrath City. |
| 18:52.26 | NivFreak | boooo |
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| 18:53.24 | Cartas | I can't do that, Amadeo. |
| 18:53.28 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan, kagaro: use Astrolabe ;-P |
| 18:53.38 | Amadeo | Cartas: Why not? :( |
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| 18:53.47 | Cartas | Because some classes need a buff, some are about right :) |
| 18:53.58 | Amadeo | Who needs a buff? |
| 18:54.08 | Cartas | Prot warriors. |
| 18:54.10 | NivFreak | yep |
| 18:54.12 | NivFreak | prot wars |
| 18:54.14 | Cartas | I.e. me! |
| 18:54.17 | Ellipsis | imo warlocks need moar buffs |
| 18:54.21 | Amadeo | So you're talking about PvE, or PvP? |
| 18:54.24 | NivFreak | both ;) |
| 18:54.29 | NivFreak | MS trainable, kthx |
| 18:54.31 | Cartas | Yes, actually. |
| 18:54.31 | Ellipsis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773314168&sid=1 |
| 18:54.33 | Cartas | Both need buffing. |
| 18:54.37 | Cartas | Farming as prot is so slow. |
| 18:54.38 | Stan_ | spriests need pve buffs |
| 18:54.44 | bigzero | Xinhuan, or anyone else for that matter, could you take a look at http://wowace.pastey.net/80327 tell me if I'm totally insane an should never try this |
| 18:54.48 | _chiper_ | did 2.3.2 go live today? |
| 18:54.52 | NivFreak | _chiper_: yea |
| 18:54.54 | xyu | yes |
| 18:54.56 | _chiper_ | about fucking time |
| 18:54.59 | Amadeo | I don't really like the idea of every spec working for everything |
| 18:55.00 | NivFreak | no shit |
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| 18:55.19 | bigzero | Xinhuan, if you're gonna look at it, might want to start from the comment chunk |
| 18:55.20 | _chiper_ | tho, QQ, that means my broom expired today |
| 18:55.24 | NivFreak | I did some arena on my prot warrior last night, because I was too lazy to respec |
| 18:55.30 | NivFreak | I think it sort of threw people off |
| 18:55.39 | NivFreak | _chiper_: mine died on the 2nd |
| 18:55.42 | NivFreak | which scares me |
| 18:55.48 | NivFreak | that means 14 days played... |
| 18:55.52 | _chiper_ | hah |
| 18:56.02 | NivFreak | I need to stop using wow as a chat client |
| 18:56.13 | NivFreak | it makes my /played time scary |
| 18:56.21 | _chiper_ | I gotta remember to get my gryphon back out of the bank |
| 18:56.34 | Amadeo | Cartas: But you can go through just about any class and pick one spec that people would say is overpowered for something |
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| 18:56.36 | NivFreak | yea, I was expecting to do that when the patch hit |
| 18:56.43 | NivFreak | but my shit expired in the middle of nowhere |
| 18:56.43 | Xinhuan | might work, didn't look at the loops in detail |
| 18:56.53 | _chiper_ | I dont get why they put an expiration on the broom, it's a great mount |
| 18:56.54 | NivFreak | thank god for hearthstones |
| 18:57.08 | Cartas | You can go through most classes and say every spec is overpowered, Amadeo. |
| 18:57.08 | _chiper_ | I'd much rather have it then some stupid bird |
| 18:57.11 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you think the way i have the settings table layout is a good idea? missing something? |
| 18:57.16 | Cartas | But not with a prot warrior, at least. |
| 18:57.20 | Keias | rofl, Ellipsis |
| 18:57.24 | Keias | That guy's in my guild |
| 18:57.32 | _chiper_ | niv: were you flying it when it expired? |
| 18:57.38 | Keias | And in the channel. What a lurker |
| 18:57.52 | YourMomsHero | hey guys when installing cartographer_data does that just go in with other addons in the interface/addons or is it suppose to be in WTF or something? I don't see a readme or anything... |
| 18:57.59 | Xinhuan | i don't really know |
| 18:58.01 | _chiper_ | I've been curious what happens if a mount expires while you're using it |
| 18:58.15 | _chiper_ | YourMomsHero: it goes in with other addons |
| 18:58.22 | YourMomsHero | cool thx |
| 18:58.22 | bigzero | Xinhuan, lol...i figured it would be hard to tell without givin it a lot of thought |
| 18:58.29 | NivFreak | _chiper_: dunno, I just went to remount and my mount button was a ? |
| 18:58.30 | bigzero | Xinhuan, thanks for taking a look |
| 18:58.39 | Xinhuan | you've got some syntax errors in there |
| 18:58.43 | Xinhuan | like elseifs without ifs |
| 18:58.45 | Amadeo | haha, they're still talking about green fire for Warlocks |
| 18:58.49 | bigzero | yeah, the end mismatch...i fixed it |
| 18:58.50 | Xinhuan | but that's about as much as i care to comment :D |
| 18:58.57 | _chiper_ | I cant wait to get home and pick up my cockblock |
| 18:59.04 | Cartas | Pascal > LUA, am I right? |
| 18:59.04 | krka | Cartas: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 18:59.10 | NivFreak | Amadeo: I think they should just do it ;) |
| 18:59.16 | bigzero | Cartas, depends on what you do |
| 18:59.20 | Amadeo | Yeah, why not? Would take a couple minutes |
| 18:59.22 | Cartas | lol |
| 18:59.41 | NivFreak | I find it to be the most amusing demand in WoW |
| 18:59.46 | NivFreak | so I think they should fill it |
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| 19:00.17 | Cartas | LUA is an acronym... |
| 19:00.22 | _chiper_ | no, I think that would confuse newbies |
| 19:00.22 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 19:00.23 | Cartas | Silly krka. |
| 19:00.43 | Amadeo | krka: That's why Night Elves created WoW's interface |
| 19:00.44 | Cartas | There are about 10 defintions for the acronym LUA, right? :o |
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| 19:01.47 | _chiper_ | "pronounced /ˈluË.a/ LOO-ah) programming language is a lightweight, reflective, imperative and procedural language, designed as a scripting language with extensible semantics as a primary goal. The name is derived from the Portuguese word for moon." |
| 19:01.56 | _chiper_ | -- wikipedia |
| 19:02.06 | CIA-4 | 03bigzero 07bigzero * r58070 10UIGnome/UIGnome/UIGnome.lua: |
| 19:02.06 | CIA-4 | UIGnome: |
| 19:02.06 | CIA-4 | - Added some functions for injecting settings. Not tested yet |
| 19:02.35 | Amadeo | Injecting? I hate shots :( |
| 19:02.50 | bigzero | they're good for you |
| 19:03.03 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58071 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: updated iterator |
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| 19:05.00 | Cartas | Hm... is lua a widely used language then? Compared to the 'big ones'? |
| 19:05.10 | Josh_Borke | Cartas: 'big ones'? |
| 19:05.26 | Cartas | Hm, let's see... C++ is one of the biggest, maybe? |
| 19:05.39 | kergoth | lua is a scripting language, usually embedded or used as a configuration language. it fits certain niches. its by no means a competitor to c++ |
| 19:05.42 | rubik | are the unitframe addons (pitbull, aguf) compatible with the 2.3.2 /readycheck checkmark that got added? |
| 19:05.46 | Cartas | Java seems to be pretty 'big', though I've no idea why. |
| 19:05.49 | Cartas | Thanks Kergoth, old chap! |
| 19:05.53 | Ellipsis | probably not yet rubik |
| 19:06.02 | rubik | figured.. thx |
| 19:06.58 | Ellipsis | don't exactly see why they'd need to be "compatible" with it...just because Blizz adds something doesn't mean everyone else has to :P |
| 19:07.06 | rubik | haha |
| 19:07.30 | NivFreak | someone has a 6958 personal arena raiting? |
| 19:07.30 | Cartas | But that's the way it always goes, Ellipsis! |
| 19:07.31 | NivFreak | haha |
| 19:07.37 | rubik | more or less just wondering if the addons will blow up when blizz tries to add the checkmark to the raid frames and the addon will go "huh?" |
| 19:08.10 | _chiper_ | see, I get so mixed up on what stuff is in what patch. I thought that checkmark got added in 2.3 |
| 19:08.16 | Cartas | I've never understood people who whine about addons going crazy on patch day. |
| 19:08.19 | Ellipsis | those addons don't mess with Blizz's raid frames |
| 19:08.22 | Ellipsis | they create their own |
| 19:08.25 | Ellipsis | so it shouldn't be a problem |
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| 19:08.28 | Cartas | I've hardly ever had any problems, and ones I have had aren't at all game-breaking. |
| 19:08.39 | rubik | Cartas: i hope that wasn't meant for me. |
| 19:08.43 | rubik | cause this ain't whining |
| 19:08.46 | Cartas | Not at all, old chap. |
| 19:08.49 | Ellipsis | I think the worst issue I've had on patch day was...flickery tooltips. for like, an hour. |
| 19:08.58 | rubik | k.. ;) |
| 19:09.01 | _chiper_ | *cough*2.0*cough* |
| 19:09.43 | _chiper_ | or am I the only one who had to dump their entire UI and build from scratch? |
| 19:10.00 | Keias | I cheated and redid my UI in the BC beta :D |
| 19:10.03 | Xinhuan | most addons worked on 2.0 |
| 19:10.14 | rubik | i don't remember, tbh.. but it's never a big deal for me |
| 19:10.14 | Silowyi | Keias: sam ehere ^_^ |
| 19:10.15 | cncfanatics | I redid flexbar, and my UI, during beta |
| 19:10.19 | Xinhuan | only certain type of addons didn't - unitframes, bar-addons |
| 19:10.35 | Silowyi | hey since NECB is apparently going to be abandoned, does anyone know of a good replacement? |
| 19:10.46 | Ellipsis | I pretty much just swapped out a couple old/unmaintained addons around 2.0 and I was fine |
| 19:10.47 | rubik | Quartz? |
| 19:10.50 | NivFreak | Silowyi: it is? |
| 19:10.51 | NivFreak | =( |
| 19:10.54 | NivFreak | I love NECB |
| 19:10.59 | Stan_ | Silowyi: people will pick it up |
| 19:10.59 | Gnarfoz | ~laziness |
| 19:10.59 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 19:11.00 | _chiper_ | I think 40% of mine only needed a TOC update, bust most had some bug that had to be fixed |
| 19:11.02 | Stan_ | Funkeh` said he will |
| 19:11.03 | kergoth | i use dotimer for my ability timers, quartz for casting bars, and afflicted for the pvp end |
| 19:11.05 | kergoth | personally |
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| 19:11.11 | Silowyi | someone told me NECB was going to be abandoned |
| 19:11.16 | Cartas | azCB are the best casting bars I've used for some time, methinks! |
| 19:11.18 | Silowyi | from my guild. |
| 19:11.21 | Cartas | Check them out ;) |
| 19:11.26 | Silowyi | I can't personally verify |
| 19:11.29 | Stan_ | read what I wrote! |
| 19:11.32 | Arrowmaster | it is, check the page on curse |
| 19:11.32 | Funkeh` | I said I might if the author agrees |
| 19:11.35 | Silowyi | Kergoth how does that work? |
| 19:11.49 | _chiper_ | but I was using Discord Action Bars pre-2.0, so I had to find a whole new button bar system |
| 19:12.00 | Ellipsis | has dotimer cleaned up its act as far as inefficient code? |
| 19:12.11 | Arrowmaster | your own fault for using shitty discord crap |
| 19:12.20 | Stan_ | Funkeh`: in his post he said it's ok if you make an ace version and the other person from wowi maintaines non-ace version |
| 19:12.22 | rubik | is Afflicted same (sort of) as Antagonist? |
| 19:12.29 | kergoth | rubik: seems so, yeah. its new |
| 19:12.36 | rubik | (sorry, too many timer bar addons and i get them mixed up) |
| 19:12.40 | kergoth | rubik: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8063-Afflicted.html |
| 19:12.42 | rubik | ahh k, thanks |
| 19:12.59 | Stan_ | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2786/?cpage=2#comment_320900 |
| 19:13.47 | Amadeo | NECB is being abandoned by Naturfiend or whatever his name is, but I think someone else is picking it up..Beladona maybe |
| 19:14.18 | Stan_ | Amadeo: read my link :D |
| 19:14.22 | [Liquidor] | Checkout my new warrior gear http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7053/wowscrnshot010808200948dv9.jpg :-) |
| 19:14.57 | Keias | Awesome, a mail thong |
| 19:15.04 | Ellipsis | proof that warriors are total sluts |
| 19:15.22 | Amadeo | Stan_: ah, good info :) |
| 19:15.27 | Stan_ | ^^ |
| 19:15.35 | Amadeo | bleh, I'm a Warrior |
| 19:15.57 | _chiper_ | Ellipsis: pally gear is the same |
| 19:16.51 | _chiper_ | I love how all females in WoW have apparently impervious legs |
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| 19:17.18 | Ellipsis | well of course we do |
| 19:18.03 | Arrowmaster | need more raid gear thats like the lower level stuff, skimpy as hell on females |
| 19:18.11 | Ellipsis | clothies get it |
| 19:18.25 | Arrowmaster | do not |
| 19:18.30 | Arrowmaster | all clothies are stuck with robes |
| 19:18.32 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: nice legs |
| 19:18.54 | Ellipsis | not all clothies |
| 19:18.55 | [Liquidor] | http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/649/wowscrnshot010808200918pk9.jpg |
| 19:18.57 | Ellipsis | and some robes are pretty hot |
| 19:18.58 | Arrowmaster | my female be pally has a pair of pants that look exactly like those |
| 19:20.49 | rubik | mine too |
| 19:21.00 | rubik | i think there's about 20+ pants that share that look |
| 19:21.11 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you should get a pair of pants like that |
| 19:21.54 | Ellipsis | maybe I will |
| 19:22.03 | ckknight | hawt |
| 19:22.24 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/17215.jpg |
| 19:22.26 | Ellipsis | imo |
| 19:22.34 | Ellipsis | they look better on a human than a nelf though |
| 19:23.05 | [Liquidor] | that's the black mageweave set |
| 19:23.06 | [Liquidor] | aight? |
| 19:23.10 | [Liquidor] | can make all of it |
| 19:23.23 | Ellipsis | it's metro's slimming legs |
| 19:23.33 | Amadeo | I don't like the Mageweave set on WoW females |
| 19:23.51 | winkiller | is there any addon that I can somehow sort my buffs? I use buffalo2, that's ok - but I'd love to have SnD or AR extra, not with all the raid buffs |
| 19:24.07 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: you like it better on irl females? :P |
| 19:24.43 | Ellipsis | winkiller: I use EBBs for that |
| 19:24.54 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Possibly :P I don't like the top, looks like a full body swimsuit or something |
| 19:25.02 | rubik | something CT_* still works? |
| 19:25.18 | kebinusan | Hmm, wonder if 2.3.2 fixes akama |
| 19:25.31 | _chiper_ | yup. buffmod and viewport are the only CT_Mods I still use |
| 19:25.32 | Arrowmaster | i hope not |
| 19:25.39 | winkiller | EBBs? |
| 19:26.04 | Ellipsis | ElkBuffBars |
| 19:26.19 | _chiper_ | screenshot? |
| 19:27.23 | Pkekyo| | no screenshots exist! |
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| 19:27.45 | winkiller | ah thanks |
| 19:28.33 | winkiller | yeah well, I don't like that format :/ |
| 19:28.41 | winkiller | more of a separation/filter |
| 19:29.32 | Amadeo | like a divorce! |
| 19:29.50 | Ellipsis | winkiller: what do you mean? |
| 19:29.58 | Ellipsis | EBBs lets you dock groups to each other |
| 19:30.03 | Ellipsis | so they could just have a little gap between them |
| 19:30.25 | Ellipsis | for me, I have buffs > 90sec, then buffs/debuffs < 90sec in a separate group |
| 19:30.42 | Ellipsis | since those are things I need to see quickly in combat |
| 19:30.45 | Pkekyo| | winkiller: the default look of it is just that, default...you can make it look any bloody way you want |
| 19:31.21 | winkiller | my buffs look like this: |
| 19:31.39 | _chiper_ | hmm, if ct_buff ever breaks, I think I'll go over to EBB |
| 19:31.45 | winkiller | [AB] [Snd] [MOTW] and I'd love to seperate.. [AB] [MOTW]...space [SND] [AR] |
| 19:32.08 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_: do it now, stop living in the past |
| 19:32.12 | _chiper_ | heh |
| 19:32.23 | Pkekyo| | it's bloody beautiful |
| 19:32.32 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: When did you start using the word bloody? |
| 19:32.50 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo| always does |
| 19:32.53 | Ellipsis | when he's frustrated enough |
| 19:33.03 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: I've used it for several years, why? |
| 19:33.05 | Ellipsis | winkiller: you can't do that horizontally with EBB...but vertically |
| 19:33.07 | Amadeo | I thought it was an English thing, Vikings don't say that! |
| 19:33.14 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 19:33.16 | Amadeo | Vikings don't even talk unless they want meat! |
| 19:33.17 | Ellipsis | they learn british english |
| 19:33.19 | Ellipsis | so yes, they do |
| 19:33.21 | Pkekyo| | YARR!!!!!!!! |
| 19:33.21 | winkiller | should be horizontally :/ |
| 19:33.23 | Amadeo | No! |
| 19:33.28 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: we don't learn british english anymore :) |
| 19:33.29 | _chiper_ | I like the way I have CT_Buff setup, I have no reason to switch out yet. |
| 19:33.31 | _chiper_ | http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/WoWScrnShot_121507_220145.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 19:33.40 | Pkekyo| | ~fail _chiper_ |
| 19:33.41 | purl | _chiper_: Fail. |
| 19:33.41 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 19:33.42 | Ellipsis | winkiller: bars get stacked vertically, icons get into a horizontal/vertical grid |
| 19:34.01 | winkiller | gonna try |
| 19:34.03 | winkiller | thx |
| 19:34.13 | Pkekyo| | bloody fucking hell! some twat ripped the godfather, WITH THE COMMENTARY AUDIO TRACK...... BAH! |
| 19:34.54 | _chiper_ | wait, EBB lets you do vertical bars? |
| 19:34.59 | Ellipsis | ...no |
| 19:35.02 | Ellipsis | what are you talking about? |
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| 19:35.24 | Pkekyo| | what are who talking about? |
| 19:35.28 | _chiper_ | <Ellipsis> winkiller: you can't do that horizontally with EBB...but vertically |
| 19:35.43 | Ellipsis | chiper: horizontal bars get stacked vertically |
| 19:35.48 | _chiper_ | oh |
| 19:35.52 | _chiper_ | darn |
| 19:35.58 | Amadeo | What about diagonally!? |
| 19:35.59 | _chiper_ | I'd love to flip the whole thing on its side |
| 19:36.20 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_ good thing is: you don't have to use them as bars! you can have just the icon and the timeleft of the buff! |
| 19:36.29 | _chiper_ | I want the bars |
| 19:36.34 | _chiper_ | that's why I like CT_Buff |
| 19:36.55 | Pkekyo| | why on earth would you want vertical bars? |
| 19:37.05 | Pkekyo| | does CT_Buffshit have vertical bars? |
| 19:37.08 | _chiper_ | I can look at the corner of my screen and instantly tell which buffs are about to expire without having to read the numbers |
| 19:37.10 | _chiper_ | no, it doesnt |
| 19:37.21 | _chiper_ | because then they could stack horizontally |
| 19:37.39 | _chiper_ | with the progress bar shrinking into the top of the screen |
| 19:37.58 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_: just bloody modify it yourself |
| 19:38.16 | Amadeo | can't you guys just look at the normal buffs!? |
| 19:38.18 | _chiper_ | meh, that's more effort than it's worth |
| 19:38.47 | _chiper_ | my desire does not outweigh my laziness |
| 19:39.04 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_: then stop crying, EBBs is full of win and awesome,and if you do not agree, I'll have to LART you |
| 19:39.13 | Amadeo | I can't imagine it would be that hard |
| 19:39.15 | _chiper_ | I didnt disagree |
| 19:39.25 | Pkekyo| | didn't say that, just said -if-... |
| 19:39.39 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: prolly wouldn't, just exchange a few values I'd imagine |
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| 19:40.00 | _chiper_ | you act like, just because I dont want to switch to your choice, I have insulted you |
| 19:40.09 | Pkekyo| | well you have :p |
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| 19:40.18 | whizter | hi |
| 19:40.29 | whizter | is there an addon like lootlink for ace? |
| 19:40.29 | Pkekyo| | helloes whizter |
| 19:41.26 | Pkekyo| | also, Amadeo, all parts of the default UI sucks frozen donkeyballsnuts :p |
| 19:41.46 | Amadeo | I don't mind the buffs/debuffs |
| 19:41.59 | [Liquidor] | I forgot take off the shirt hehe : http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6074/wowscrnshot010808203550ht4.jpg |
| 19:42.14 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 19:42.16 | Amadeo | [Liquidor]: woo, take it off baby! |
| 19:42.19 | cncfanatics | learning dutch & religion sucks |
| 19:42.30 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: lolswut? |
| 19:42.43 | Pkekyo| | l2separatestatefromchurch? |
| 19:42.46 | cncfanatics | I'm studying dutch & religion, pure fail |
| 19:42.55 | cncfanatics | 2 tests tomorrow :p |
| 19:43.16 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: why the flying fuck would you study dutch and religion? :p |
| 19:43.23 | Pkekyo| | specificly the religion part of it |
| 19:43.43 | Amadeo | It's too bad that the Stargate Worlds trailer is so stupid, I wanted to imagine it would be good |
| 19:43.49 | cncfanatics | ~dict mandatory |
| 19:43.55 | _chiper_ | Amadeo: yeah, same here |
| 19:43.56 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: linkage |
| 19:44.03 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, they're mandatory :( |
| 19:44.14 | _chiper_ | I wanted gameplay footage, not some fucking cutscene |
| 19:44.14 | cncfanatics | even though I'm studying science-maths as main subjects |
| 19:44.17 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: how old are you? |
| 19:44.20 | cncfanatics | 18 |
| 19:44.24 | Amadeo | Pkekyo|: I got it here - http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/11603/Stargate+Worlds+Teaser+Trailer |
| 19:44.25 | cncfanatics | in last year of secondary school :) |
| 19:44.30 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 19:45.08 | _chiper_ | it's on Youtube too |
| 19:45.08 | Pkekyo| | it'll get better next year then |
| 19:45.08 | cncfanatics | if I pass |
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| 19:45.09 | Pkekyo| | I haven't heard jack shit about religion from a teacher for...three years + :) |
| 19:45.09 | cncfanatics | wish that was my case |
| 19:45.12 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: they made a game? |
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| 19:45.19 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.21 | cncfanatics | and the teachers didn't care |
| 19:45.24 | cncfanatics | but this one does :( |
| 19:45.31 | Kivin | patchday = D: |
| 19:45.38 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo|, going to |
| 19:45.38 | _chiper_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOpoDwrVwQc |
| 19:45.39 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: guess you just decided to get born in the wrong country then :p |
| 19:45.44 | _chiper_ | ^^ Stargate Worlds Trailer |
| 19:45.49 | cncfanatics | EU > US still |
| 19:45.52 | Pkekyo| | that's just gonna ruin the entire concept >.< |
| 19:45.54 | cncfanatics | and its like this in most EU countries :p |
| 19:45.56 | [Liquidor] | any of you saw 4x11 ? |
| 19:45.56 | Pkekyo| | <--- EU as well |
| 19:46.11 | cncfanatics | rather that then no alcohol till 21 |
| 19:46.13 | cncfanatics | tbh |
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| 19:46.40 | Pkekyo| | [Liquidor]: maybe? |
| 19:46.41 | bigzero | cncfanatics, which country are you in? |
| 19:46.49 | Pkekyo| | cncfanaticsrather that then no alcohol till 21 <--- lolsWUT |
| 19:46.51 | cncfanatics | belgium |
| 19:46.58 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, US = no alcohol till 21 :p |
| 19:47.03 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo|, how can that be a maybe? either you saw the episode or else you didn't :) |
| 19:47.27 | bigzero | cncfanatics, belgium's big on religion? |
| 19:47.36 | Pkekyo| | ~fail US |
| 19:47.37 | purl | US: Fail. |
| 19:47.49 | cncfanatics | bigzero, nah, my silly school is |
| 19:47.52 | Pkekyo| | [Liquidor]: you were referring to a stargate episode? |
| 19:47.54 | cncfanatics | stupid shitty school |
| 19:48.08 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: join another one? |
| 19:48.13 | _chiper_ | [Liquidor]: was 4x11 the newest one from friday? |
| 19:48.16 | [Liquidor] | Pkekyo|, ye ofc |
| 19:48.20 | [Liquidor] | ye _chiper_ |
| 19:48.22 | bigzero | cncfanatics, i'm from Lithuania originally, we used to be able to chose between taking religion and ethics |
| 19:48.26 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|, bit silly for last year eh ? |
| 19:48.27 | _chiper_ | nope, havent seen it yet |
| 19:48.30 | Pkekyo| | [Liquidor]: atlantis? |
| 19:48.32 | _chiper_ | downloaded, but havent seen |
| 19:48.33 | [Liquidor] | with the spacebattles |
| 19:48.37 | cncfanatics | and i do like my school, except for the courses :) |
| 19:48.45 | [Liquidor] | _chiper_, it's the fucking best episode of all seasons !!!! |
| 19:48.50 | *** join/#wowace dre^ (i=dre@loco.dreness.com) |
| 19:48.58 | Pkekyo| | [Liquidor]: SG-1 or atlantis?! |
| 19:49.02 | _chiper_ | hrm, remind me what the cliffhanger was? |
| 19:49.08 | [Liquidor] | you see wraith, atlantis and those other humans having ancient tech fighting together vs replicators |
| 19:49.11 | [Liquidor] | SGA |
| 19:49.21 | _chiper_ | Pkekyo|: do you really think he'd be talking about SG1? |
| 19:49.23 | [Liquidor] | it's a huuuuuge spacebattle |
| 19:49.46 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_: no idea, I haven't been able to keep up with episodes/seasons with atlantis |
| 19:49.49 | Silowyi | I wonder if Ravage will actually be useful now |
| 19:49.54 | _chiper_ | ohhh, I remember now, they got the ship tracking thing |
| 19:50.01 | [Liquidor] | ye but |
| 19:50.03 | Amadeo | Silowyi: Resilience says no! |
| 19:50.11 | [Liquidor] | it's all 4 races in the same spacebattle |
| 19:50.13 | Pkekyo| | gimme a sec, gonna see what seasons I have |
| 19:50.14 | [Liquidor] | it's huuge |
| 19:50.30 | [Liquidor] | like 40 of those big ships |
| 19:50.33 | Pkekyo| | I've only got the three first seasons |
| 19:50.37 | Silowyi | Amadeo: There is more to WoW than pvp ;) |
| 19:50.44 | Pkekyo| | not getting the fourth season until it've aired in it's entirety |
| 19:51.24 | _chiper_ | I was watching this the other day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mDnftAsIGc |
| 19:51.31 | _chiper_ | fan video of all the planets SG1 ever visited |
| 19:51.34 | Amadeo | Silowyi: You gonna Prowl during boss battles? |
| 19:51.43 | [Liquidor] | here's the clip: http://www.dailymotion.com/commented-week/tag/sga/video/x3yh14_sga-4x11be-all-my-sins-rememberd_creation |
| 19:51.45 | [Liquidor] | It's huuuge |
| 19:52.03 | _chiper_ | I sometimes take for granted just how awesome the visual effects can be on the stargate shows |
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| 19:52.10 | Silowyi | Amadeo: Previously the conventional wisdom was to open with mangle and go straight into the mangle/shred/rip rotation |
| 19:52.21 | [Liquidor] | _chiper_ you have seen nothing yet before you've seen 4x11 |
| 19:52.32 | Pkekyo| | _chiper_: whomever made that failed when he sped up the walking scenes |
| 19:52.46 | Amadeo | Silowyi: I don't have a high Druid or anything, but I can't imagine one Ravage at the beginning of a fight is going to make a significant difference in your total DPS |
| 19:52.47 | _chiper_ | eh, space battles are a dime a dozen |
| 19:52.51 | Silowyi | Amadeo: I'm wondering if the change might mean you open with ravage. It depends on the energy to damage ratio and how it affects your rotation. |
| 19:53.04 | dre^ | a ravage crit can be substantial, at least on trash |
| 19:53.07 | Pkekyo| | shame the two last sg-1 seasons were utter shite :< |
| 19:53.08 | _chiper_ | planetside effects are the truely awesome stuff |
| 19:53.31 | Silowyi | dre^: Yeah, though I guess theorycrafting on trash is kinda... blah... we don't even run damage meters on trash |
| 19:53.56 | Silowyi | looks like swstats has a slight error |
| 19:54.08 | bigzero | Silowyi, that's because dmg meters on trash are way off |
| 19:54.10 | dre^ | heh yeah.. until bliz gives us a way to distinguish two same-name / same-level mobs, it's kinda worthles to do so |
| 19:54.13 | bigzero | they don't mean anything |
| 19:54.20 | _chiper_ | and honestly, stargate's space battles will never be able to top some of the stuff from Star Trek Deep Space Nine, or StarTrek First Contact |
| 19:54.24 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 19:54.46 | Pkekyo| | what day is it today? |
| 19:54.47 | Amadeo | I didn't think that clip was very good |
| 19:54.55 | cncfanatics | Tuesday |
| 19:55.16 | Fisker- | fucking lol |
| 19:55.20 | Pkekyo| | hmm...new zeropunctuation in the morning then :) |
| 19:55.25 | Pkekyo| | as well as a new patch |
| 19:55.30 | Pkekyo| | bloody beautiful |
| 19:55.31 | dre^ | did they patch today? |
| 19:55.43 | Fisker- | someone needed some nether vortexes |
| 19:55.55 | bigzero | rogues >>> any class on trash, since they can do a ton of dmg right away...mages on the other hand..*starts to cast fireball**mob dies 2.8 secs later**mage = standing there doing nothing for 3 secs* |
| 19:55.56 | Fisker- | and the crafter had to go because someone needed loot on void reaver |
| 19:56.03 | Fisker- | on that same trash pull the 2 nethers he needed dropped :D |
| 19:56.03 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 19:56.14 | Fisker- | everyone lol'd |
| 19:56.40 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: that's just evil |
| 19:56.42 | _chiper_ | [Liquidor]: was that an amorphous replicator blob on the planet? |
| 19:56.58 | Fisker- | it's fucking awesome :P |
| 19:57.06 | Pkekyo| | evil little bastard |
| 19:57.15 | Fisker- | The replicator blob = pretty nice |
| 19:57.37 | [Liquidor] | yes |
| 19:57.45 | _chiper_ | that was... interesting |
| 19:57.45 | [Liquidor] | bai bai replicator |
| 19:57.53 | _chiper_ | often wondered why they didnt do that before |
| 19:57.54 | fridg | 2.32 woooooooo |
| 19:57.58 | fridg | ice block bitches |
| 19:58.02 | Arrowmaster | they killed fran |
| 19:58.03 | _chiper_ | fridg: hells yeah |
| 19:58.05 | Chompers | are we talking about that stargate ep? |
| 19:58.10 | Chompers | the one with the ships flying about |
| 19:58.14 | Pkekyo| | stop spoiling season four for me! |
| 19:58.18 | _chiper_ | no more having to pop invisible when I overthreat |
| 19:58.19 | bigzero | fridg, more like mana gem muahaha...infinite mana inc |
| 19:58.23 | Chompers | bsg battles > stargate battles |
| 19:58.27 | fridg | yeah that too |
| 19:58.29 | Silowyi | blargh |
| 19:58.40 | Chompers | shame there's like, 2 of them in the whole programme |
| 19:58.51 | fridg | any word on when 2.4 will be? |
| 19:58.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:58.59 | Arrowmaster | and dont ask |
| 19:58.59 | kebinusan | when its ready |
| 19:59.05 | Pkekyo| | fridg: it's bloody well not tomorrow |
| 19:59.12 | fridg | aka how much time i have to put off fiixing all the fucking shit that gets broken |
| 19:59.14 | kebinusan | actually probably 4 weeks before its ready |
| 19:59.17 | fridg | i mean, i like the changes |
| 19:59.20 | fridg | but bleh :( |
| 19:59.38 | Kivin | woot, realms back up |
| 19:59.46 | _chiper_ | [Liquidor]: pff, they aren't gonna be gone perminantly. replicators are like blubonic plague, they always show up in some corner of the universe |
| 20:00.05 | Arrowmaster | watch the damn show |
| 20:00.06 | fridg | 2.4 isn't near ptr yet is it? |
| 20:00.08 | Arrowmaster | they arent gone |
| 20:00.12 | dre^ | so they did patch today then? |
| 20:00.16 | fridg | yes |
| 20:00.18 | dre^ | hoot |
| 20:00.20 | kebinusan | 2.3.2 today tea |
| 20:00.21 | fridg | on US anyways |
| 20:00.23 | kebinusan | *yea |
| 20:00.29 | dre^ | that goddamn strtolower error is fixed now!! |
| 20:00.34 | dre^ | so annoying |
| 20:01.02 | dre^ | nothing like a lua error dialog popping up at the most inopportune time to remind you that software sucks |
| 20:01.06 | NeoTron | does using a healthstone or healthpot trigger the GCD? |
| 20:01.14 | dre^ | for sure |
| 20:01.22 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: no |
| 20:01.31 | Arrowmaster | dre^: use bugsack |
| 20:01.31 | dre^ | pretty sure it does ;) |
| 20:01.37 | Lukian | "Your addons are experiencing a large number of errors and may be slowing down the game" |
| 20:01.40 | dre^ | but I'll check! |
| 20:01.41 | Lukian | lol |
| 20:01.53 | Pkekyo| | was 2.3.2 on PTRs? |
| 20:01.59 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: so really no way to make a macro that uses a healtstone and if unavailable uses a health pot |
| 20:02.01 | dre^ | yeah, for a good while |
| 20:02.06 | Lukian | oh god, it's swstats :( |
| 20:02.08 | Kivin | woot, a water shield that doesn't need to be refreshed in the middle of prince p2 |
| 20:02.25 | dre^ | Kivin: yeah woot! |
| 20:02.38 | Pkekyo| | so devs should've fixed the most severe bugs by now then? :p |
| 20:02.40 | dre^ | kivin the hidden beauty is that it's actually a hidden buff as well |
| 20:02.50 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: i think you can but i dont think it will work when stuff is on cooldown, only when you dont have one |
| 20:02.58 | dre^ | kivin: think about it... 50 mp5 PLUS any triggered procs... |
| 20:03.20 | Kivin | dre^: Fights like Curator where you take a great deal of minor splash damage will force you up to 100% mana :P |
| 20:03.36 | dre^ | heh, ayup |
| 20:03.47 | dre^ | I didn't run any kara on the ptr, but I could tell it was sweetness |
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| 20:04.50 | Kivin | And best of all, bloomtard druids got nerfed. woot. |
| 20:04.51 | Pkekyo| | shatter on gruul should be purty too |
| 20:04.59 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: how? |
| 20:05.07 | dre^ | Pkekyo|: in the patch notes ;) |
| 20:05.13 | dre^ | Lifebloom: When this ability is refreshed it will take on the strength of the incoming Lifebloom effect, rather than maintain the existing strength. |
| 20:05.24 | Pkekyo| | ~patchnotes |
| 20:05.24 | purl | The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ and the latest Test Realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 20:05.27 | Orionshock | kagaro: ping |
| 20:05.27 | dre^ | not as much as a nerf as a fix, heh |
| 20:05.36 | kagaro | yo |
| 20:05.39 | Kivin | dre^: A careful distinction, but you're correct |
| 20:05.43 | Silowyi | swstats is borked |
| 20:05.53 | Kivin | No more +2500 heals lifeblooms ticking perpetually |
| 20:05.54 | Pkekyo| | meh, the 2.3.0 patchnotes are still up >.< |
| 20:05.56 | _chiper_ | good thing I just dumped swstats for recount |
| 20:06.03 | Amadeo | Can someone explain what this patch note is? "There is now an option to turn off the screen edge damage flash when you have a fullscreen UI up." -- I've never seen anything like that |
| 20:06.19 | dre^ | anybody know anything about this: Reduced network latency by disabling the Nagle algorithm. |
| 20:06.20 | Orionshock | kagaro: reading over Gather mate briefly and i noticed something that i had been yelled at for doing, thought i'd tell you. |
| 20:06.24 | _chiper_ | Amadeo: a lot of addons override it |
| 20:06.31 | Amadeo | That must be why! |
| 20:06.34 | kebinusan | ~nagle |
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| 20:06.43 | kebinusan | purl doesnt know that one eh |
| 20:06.47 | kagaro | shoot |
| 20:06.52 | dre^ | I could look it up I suppose... |
| 20:06.53 | Arrowmaster | dre^: wiki |
| 20:07.05 | Kivin | dre^: Nagle Algorithm throttles Client>Server transmitions |
| 20:07.27 | Orionshock | kagaro: Collector:GetGatherSkill function you pairs over a table for a specific key, why not just check they key directly [[ func(spell) if L[spell] then return spell end ]] |
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| 20:07.44 | Kivin | dre^: A TCP/IP Packet is 40 bytes of overhead plus the meaningful message. Nagle attempts to reduce the overhead by waiting to send packets |
| 20:07.46 | dre^ | ok good, reducing the need for a separate throttling mechanism suggests good design changes |
| 20:08.16 | Orionshock | iirc - nil is implied if a function doesn't return. |
| 20:08.29 | NeoTron | So I wonder if there's a non-blizz ui making use of the new /readycheck mechanic |
| 20:08.30 | dre^ | so somewhat akin to http request pipelining |
| 20:08.31 | Kivin | Orionshock: truth |
| 20:08.47 | Arrowmaster | nagle algorithm is used by default on most tcp traffic |
| 20:08.49 | NeoTron | i.e if it's possible for oRA2 to remove it's own readycheck and use the builtin one while still maintaining the visual status |
| 20:09.05 | Kivin | :SetMinMaxValues got changed in 2.3.2 o.O |
| 20:09.28 | kebinusan | 3rd party bar mods can do the posession thing in 2.3.2 right? |
| 20:09.32 | Silowyi | Kivin: So I see |
| 20:09.44 | Silowyi | Kivin: It's bugged swstats out |
| 20:09.55 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: SRA was using the bliz readycheck but i think ammo said it was buggy and at times would send the results to a different raid member than the person that requested it |
| 20:09.58 | Kivin | Silowyi: My Lootzor is crapped out because of it as well |
| 20:10.24 | Silowyi | Kivin: The stupid thing is that the usage it lists is exactly how swstats uses it |
| 20:10.29 | [Ammo] | the new readycehck events are fine |
| 20:10.35 | Silowyi | Kivin: so I suspect Blizzard may have borked something |
| 20:10.35 | [Ammo] | I'll patch oRA2 sometime |
| 20:10.37 | Kivin | Silowyi: Lootzor is using it correctly, too |
| 20:10.42 | Kivin | self.ui.scroll:SetMinMaxValues(0, #(self.here.elements) - 13) |
| 20:11.04 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: could we get the results patched to the raid officers too? |
| 20:11.26 | kebinusan | ammo is there a way for users to request mt targets |
| 20:11.40 | Arrowmaster | kebinusan: status update should do it |
| 20:11.51 | kebinusan | I get tired of being asked on vent to rebroadcast mt targets, kk I'll tell em to do that |
| 20:12.09 | [Ammo] | if the leader has oRA2 it'll work |
| 20:12.30 | kebinusan | yeah I normally lead so that'll work |
| 20:12.49 | Silowyi | meh |
| 20:12.57 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Any known problems with threat on Striders in the Vashj fight? |
| 20:12.58 | Silowyi | it's just so much easier to keep your own mt list |
| 20:13.23 | Arrowmaster | Hjalte: yes, theres more than 1 mob with the same name, dont fucking expect it to be accurate |
| 20:13.40 | Hjalte | Arrowmaster: There should only be 1 at a time, if you are fast enough :) |
| 20:14.02 | Arrowmaster | threat-1.0 doesnt know if there is or isnt |
| 20:14.27 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt wipe the threat on strider death |
| 20:14.48 | Matrix110 | Grid ready for the readycheck change btw? |
| 20:15.46 | Fisker- | any druids that know what the "druid" nerf means? |
| 20:15.59 | Fisker- | just that it won't refresh from modded spellhealing i.e. trinkets? |
| 20:16.11 | dre^ | yes |
| 20:16.18 | NeoTron | before you could trink/pot up when you start lifebloom |
| 20:16.19 | dre^ | it's not a nerf it's a fix ;) |
| 20:16.21 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r58072 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: fix frFR/esES |
| 20:16.23 | Kivin | s/nerf/fix |
| 20:16.27 | NeoTron | and as long as it is kept up it would use that buffed value |
| 20:16.33 | NeoTron | now it will not |
| 20:16.36 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if they fixed the other stuff effected by that bug |
| 20:16.38 | NeoTron | so yeah it's a fix |
| 20:16.44 | dre^ | what other stuff? |
| 20:16.48 | NeoTron | like the old hunter scorpid bug |
| 20:16.50 | Arrowmaster | hunter pet |
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| 20:17.30 | Hjalte | Hmm. I see your point, but my Omen was already messed up on the first Strider. The warlock tanking it wasn't on my list, but still it warned me when my threat was above 100%, like i've told it to. |
| 20:17.59 | Arrowmaster | was probably full of global threat from healers |
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| 20:20.29 | CIA-4 | 03julith * r58073 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/ (4 files): |
| 20:20.29 | CIA-4 | GridStatusIncomingHealth: |
| 20:20.29 | CIA-4 | - merged GridExtraBar into this addon (please see readme.txt) |
| 20:20.29 | CIA-4 | - changed status indicator name to a more descriptive one |
| 20:20.44 | Kivin | :SetMinMaxValue isn't giving the correct usage, or something |
| 20:21.55 | Fisker- | do you have to clear both entraces to kael before pulling_ |
| 20:21.58 | Fisker- | ? |
| 20:22.38 | Matrix110 | no |
| 20:22.38 | Stan_ | yes |
| 20:22.40 | Matrix110 | just the patrol |
| 20:22.42 | Stan_ | er no |
| 20:22.56 | Stan_ | there's a patrol in both entrances |
| 20:23.02 | CIA-4 | 03julith * r58074 10GridExtraBar/readme.txt: |
| 20:23.02 | CIA-4 | GridExtraBar: |
| 20:23.02 | CIA-4 | - mentioned the merge of this addon with GridStatusIncomingHealth in the readme.txt together with a "you can delete me" note |
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| 20:23.54 | Arrowmaster | omg this is so fucked up http://www.shakethatbear.com/ (NSFW video with sounds) |
| 20:24.29 | Amadeo | ugh, I seriously need to buy a new headset, this thing is falling apart |
| 20:25.34 | Matrix110 | good Headsets dont exist |
| 20:25.48 | [KzM]Fatalis | did the patch break Prat or did i do something wrong |
| 20:25.55 | Josh_Borke | [KzM]Fatalis: you did sometihng wrong |
| 20:26.01 | Lukian | prat works here |
| 20:26.06 | Stan_ | Arrowmaster: WTF |
| 20:26.16 | Josh_Borke | see? i was right |
| 20:26.16 | Arrowmaster | Stan_: I KNOW |
| 20:26.17 | Amadeo | Matrix110: I really wish I could disagree |
| 20:26.20 | Amadeo | I don't even know what to get |
| 20:26.29 | Stan_ | hey lets kill a bear and fuck on it |
| 20:26.30 | Stan_ | W T F |
| 20:26.37 | Fisker- | nice |
| 20:27.23 | Matrix110 | A good Desktop Microphone(although good mics with the normal plug doesnt exist as its unsymetric) and good Headphones is >>>> every Headset |
| 20:27.45 | Amadeo | I don't want to put a mic on my desk :( |
| 20:27.47 | Fisker- | every headset > your mother and a desktop mic |
| 20:28.06 | Kivin | Silowyi: I figured out the goofy change to the slider control |
| 20:28.13 | Matrix110 | All Headsets i try people said are SOOOOO SUPER GOOD are all fucked up and not worthing paying money for |
| 20:28.41 | _chiper_ | you must have an odd shaped head |
| 20:28.59 | Matrix110 | Its not about that its more about the sound... |
| 20:29.07 | _chiper_ | but I agree, I'd rather have a good set of headphones and a desk mic |
| 20:29.31 | Ellipsis | headsets are so much easier though, only one thing to mess with instead of two |
| 20:29.34 | Amadeo | Matrix110: Yeah, I have one of those headsets that people rave about |
| 20:29.40 | Amadeo | it's the worst POS I've ever used |
| 20:29.40 | _chiper_ | especially since I have my headphones plugged into my desktop mixer so I can hear all my computers and not just one |
| 20:29.50 | Ellipsis | I can never find headsets/headphones that work for me though |
| 20:29.51 | Amadeo | good output quality, but the headphones are so cheaply made |
| 20:29.56 | Matrix110 | Clip mic works aswell but the cable will rip out after max 1week :P |
| 20:30.13 | _chiper_ | Ellipsis: my desk mic just sits there, I've not touched it in months |
| 20:30.16 | Ellipsis | the ones I'm using now fall off my head e.g. if I tilt my head back when drinking soda |
| 20:30.18 | CIA-4 | 03kivin * r58075 10KivinLootzor/ (Gui.lua KivinLootzor.toc modules/outlandDungeons.lua): |
| 20:30.18 | CIA-4 | KivinLootzor: |
| 20:30.18 | CIA-4 | - Minor changes for compatibility with Patch 2.3.2 |
| 20:31.19 | Amadeo | the earpads came unglued on mine |
| 20:31.26 | Amadeo | and they're so cheap that you can't really glue them back on |
| 20:31.40 | Ozguli | how on earth am I supposed to load top scorefu? |
| 20:32.14 | Matrix110 | I had a really nice manufactured Headset made out of Magnesium/Aluminium sitting on your head really tight(in the start a bit to tight) but the sound was so poor....glad i got it 80% off because of misslabling |
| 20:32.35 | Amadeo | heh |
| 20:32.40 | Amadeo | This is a Plantronics DSP-500 |
| 20:32.55 | Matrix110 | Plantronics.... ok sound but so poor quality |
| 20:33.07 | Amadeo | yep |
| 20:33.11 | Ozguli | /ace2 load ... what? the damn thing has a space in it's name |
| 20:33.15 | Amadeo | the mic output is beautiful, everything else is junk |
| 20:33.26 | Kivin | I have a very fine pair of sony DJ headphones, but they require a little hackjob to get them into the computer |
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| 20:33.35 | Kivin | since they use too big of a jack |
| 20:33.44 | Matrix110 | Sony is normally to bass heavy:-( |
| 20:33.50 | _chiper_ | see what I mean. I've got a really nice set of senhouser headphones that sound awesome and block out any external noise. my mic sits on my desk and never gets touched |
| 20:33.53 | Amadeo | Kivin: You can get adapters for that |
| 20:33.56 | Zhinjio | I ended up getting a nice pair of sennheisers.... I won't ever buy anything else now |
| 20:34.09 | Amadeo | Zhinjio: a headset, or just headphones? |
| 20:34.12 | Kivin | Amadeo: yes. Matrix110: That's sort of the point. I originally got them for club DJing |
| 20:34.13 | Zhinjio | headset |
| 20:34.23 | Amadeo | which ones? |
| 20:34.39 | Matrix110 | Senheiser <100€ are fucking crap though just selling out the brand name at that pricerange |
| 20:34.51 | Zhinjio | hang on. doesn't show the model on it. |
| 20:35.31 | Matrix110 | orwell make that 70€:P |
| 20:36.00 | Zhinjio | PC 166 USB |
| 20:36.12 | Zhinjio | http://www.senncom.com/comm/icm_eng.nsf/root/500169 |
| 20:36.14 | Pkekyo| | I really like the Behringer HPX2000 headphones tbh |
| 20:36.34 | Matrix110 | Dont get how people can buy USB headphones... but well idc |
| 20:36.39 | Xinhuan | ~wdn |
| 20:36.39 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 20:36.39 | Zhinjio | it has both |
| 20:36.46 | Ellipsis | I use USB headphones/headset |
| 20:36.46 | Zhinjio | I don't use the USB thing |
| 20:36.49 | whizter | is there a way to add flamecaps to autobar? i don't see any category where it fits in |
| 20:36.54 | Ellipsis | because my sound card is borken |
| 20:36.57 | Matrix110 | whizter custom items |
| 20:37.14 | whizter | ok I'll try that |
| 20:39.22 | Fisker- | lol even the master engineer isn't using engineer items!1 |
| 20:39.36 | _chiper_ | eww, usb headphones are such a source of headaches |
| 20:39.59 | Ellipsis | buy me a decent USB sound card then |
| 20:40.00 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 20:40.40 | whizter | i got it, new category, put flamecap in, then add the category as a custum button :) |
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| 20:50.44 | CIA-4 | 03krytharn * r58076 10Reputation/Reputation.toc: Reputation: -changed the version number to 20300. Just in time for patch 2.3.2. |
| 20:53.16 | Lukian | <Kivin> :SetMinMaxValues got changed in 2.3.2 o.O <- What's the next syntax (ie. what can I find and replace in a broken addon XD) |
| 20:53.24 | Lukian | s/next/new/ |
| 20:53.26 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58077 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: GatherMate: adjusted get gather skill |
| 20:53.41 | Kivin | Lukian: I discovered the change was passing a max value that was smaller than min |
| 20:53.48 | Kivin | It was just giving me a "usage: min, max" error |
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| 20:54.50 | CIA-4 | 03kagaro * r58078 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: updated lookups |
| 20:55.26 | Josh_Borke | kagaro: you gonna look at Astrolabe for minimap icons? |
| 20:55.34 | kagaro | not there yet |
| 20:55.59 | Kivin | oh oh "Interface action failed because of an AddOn" *sigh* |
| 20:57.06 | Cartas | I get that all the time, Kivin. |
| 20:57.19 | Josh_Borke | i never get that :-( |
| 20:57.20 | Cartas | No problem seems to actually exist, except for my stealth cooldown timer not working. |
| 20:57.31 | Cartas | So I guess a problem does seem to actually exist... |
| 20:57.54 | Kivin | Hmm lately i haven't been seeing cooldown spirals around my bag items |
| 20:58.08 | Cartas | OmniCC? |
| 20:58.19 | Kivin | don't have it |
| 20:58.27 | Kivin | the problem occured when i checked out the newest arkinventory |
| 20:58.29 | Lukian | BankItems.lua: 3894: attempt to call global 'GetUIPanelWindowInfo' (a nil value) @ Xinhuan . |
| 20:58.43 | Xinhuan | i'm aware, blizzard changed that function to a local one |
| 20:59.05 | Xinhuan | and the entire file went thru like 300 lines of changes |
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| 21:02.28 | Lukian | well swstats was easy enough to fix |
| 21:02.37 | Lukian | just change a one to a zero :D |
| 21:03.07 | Kivin | I wrapped all my :SetMinMax calls into a function which checks for goofy things like min=0,max-17 |
| 21:04.03 | Fisker- | wut |
| 21:04.07 | Fisker- | first phase is fucking easy :D |
| 21:05.26 | Chompers | vashj is pain :< |
| 21:05.44 | Xinhuan | which file and what lukian |
| 21:05.48 | Xinhuan | for swstats |
| 21:05.57 | Xinhuan | it'll save me the trouble |
| 21:06.03 | Lukian | SW_data_views.lua |
| 21:06.05 | Lukian | line 91 |
| 21:08.40 | Xinhuan | line 67-92 are already commented out |
| 21:08.52 | Xinhuan | so changing anything on line 91 won't do anything |
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| 21:10.08 | Xinhuan | or did you specify the wrong file? |
| 21:10.51 | Lukian | no, what swstats version & where did you get it from? |
| 21:11.22 | Xinhuan | 2.1.2, the same version as the one 5 months ago |
| 21:11.23 | Amadeo | Anyone use Afflicted? |
| 21:11.26 | Xinhuan | since there wasn't any updates |
| 21:11.36 | kebinusan | So whats the meter of choice these days, swstats, recount, assessment |
| 21:11.46 | Lukian | oh right, I'm using 2.1.3 |
| 21:11.54 | Lukian | It's the scrollbar code afaic |
| 21:12.06 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: Violation ;p |
| 21:12.15 | Xinhuan | i can't find any scrollbar code in that file you specified lol |
| 21:12.17 | [Ammo] | just the devs are assholes |
| 21:12.35 | Lukian | Xinhuan, yeah 2.1.2 doesn't have it |
| 21:12.46 | Xinhuan | that means i won't need to fix it |
| 21:12.53 | Xinhuan | what does 2.1.3 offer over 2.1.2? |
| 21:12.56 | kebinusan | hehe |
| 21:13.12 | Lukian | Added : A Unit mouseover skill usage info and comparison. |
| 21:13.12 | Lukian | Added: You can now scroll the main window if there are too many bars to display |
| 21:13.28 | Lukian | that's it :p |
| 21:13.29 | Lukian | haha |
| 21:13.43 | Xinhuan | anyway fixing BI is easy enough, i replicated the function call that blizzard made local |
| 21:13.52 | Xinhuan | by using my own 5 lines of code |
| 21:14.44 | Lukian | dammit, I can't move the swstats unilog |
| 21:16.29 | Lukian | ah there we go |
| 21:16.59 | Lukian | someone should make relog work |
| 21:17.10 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58079 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix for BankItems.lua: 3894: attempt to call global 'GetUIPanelWindowInfo' (a nil value) |
| 21:19.05 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 21:19.06 | Xinhuan | local FramePositionDelegate = CreateFrame("FRAME"); |
| 21:19.06 | Xinhuan | FramePositionDelegate:SetScript("OnAttributeChanged", FramePositionDelegate_OnAttributeChanged); |
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| 21:19.28 | Xinhuan | blizzard's new UIParentManageFramePositions() code looks pretty solid |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-4 | 03shamino * r58080 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell-enUS.lua: |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-4 | EnchantingSell: |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-4 | - default enchant database updated |
| 21:20.21 | Xinhuan | and its 100% untaintable because it only uses frame attributes, and the onattribute change functions are all local to UIParent.lua |
| 21:20.47 | Ellipsis | yay |
| 21:20.57 | Xinhuan | at least, you can't even hook them |
| 21:21.07 | Xinhuan | because blizzard even made this frame anonymous |
| 21:22.02 | Xinhuan | the entire UIlayout code is now member functions of the FramePositionDelegate: frame |
| 21:22.35 | Xinhuan | at least, the only way to taint it is to iterate all frames and find this frame specifically |
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| 21:22.47 | Xinhuan | by checking for those functions |
| 21:25.31 | CIA-4 | 03morgalm * r58081 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc plugins/morgdkp/Morgexport.php): |
| 21:25.31 | CIA-4 | MorgDKP: |
| 21:25.31 | CIA-4 | - Fix for multipool eqdkp+ since I broke it when added eqdkp+ w/o multipool support - if this no longer works let me know |
| 21:26.34 | sag_ich_nicht | why is it that i can kill so many 70s with my level 63 rogue? |
| 21:26.37 | Xinhuan | hmm i got that coldridge voucher again in my mailbox for some reason |
| 21:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | is it that i'm so awesome or that everyone else is so shitty? |
| 21:27.03 | bigzero | sag_ich_nicht, you hack |
| 21:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | no i don't |
| 21:27.22 | bigzero | lies |
| 21:27.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i kill S1 equiped mages |
| 21:27.41 | bigzero | hmm...that explains it...are they fire? |
| 21:28.53 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, was he at 0 mana / afk / at 1hp ? |
| 21:28.57 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, frost. |
| 21:28.58 | sag_ich_nicht | nope. |
| 21:29.13 | bigzero | i don't get it...how can they change mage tallents and not give us a free respec? |
| 21:29.18 | Xinhuan | rofl they disabled casting Blink if you have the Preparation buff |
| 21:29.24 | Xinhuan | you will just get "You can't do that yet" error |
| 21:29.32 | sag_ich_nicht | what? |
| 21:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 21:29.40 | sag_ich_nicht | in the BG? |
| 21:29.40 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 21:29.42 | sag_ich_nicht | n1 |
| 21:29.43 | Xinhuan | what will i do, i can't blink to the AV gate anymore to reach it 3 seconds faster!!! |
| 21:30.05 | bigzero | obviously you noticed, so it must matter |
| 21:30.15 | Estil | lol |
| 21:30.24 | bigzero | i thought they couldn't patch without nerfing mages |
| 21:30.39 | Xinhuan | so i noted that saeris lootlink "broke" due to the moneytooltip changes to Gametooltip |
| 21:30.57 | Xinhuan | a tooltip now can have an unlimited number of moneytooltipframes |
| 21:31.00 | Estil | but it's not really a nerf |
| 21:31.05 | Xinhuan | by creating them on demand |
| 21:31.18 | Xinhuan | so i sorta just worked around it |
| 21:31.40 | Xinhuan | time to play thru one AV game and see if anything taints |
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| 21:31.59 | kergoth | ah thats cool (the moneyframe gtt change) |
| 21:32.03 | bigzero | hmmm, you can't reconjure a gem to make it have 3 charges again...have to delete old one and make a new one |
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| 21:34.22 | Xinhuan | they should have made all gems have 3 changes |
| 21:34.23 | Xinhuan | charges |
| 21:34.28 | Xinhuan | not just that one emerald |
| 21:35.11 | bigzero | now there's not much point in having the other ones...maybe the ruby |
| 21:35.46 | NightHawkAtWork | hmm, 2.3.2 live today? |
| 21:35.55 | bigzero | yes |
| 21:36.00 | NightHawkAtWork | awesome. |
| 21:36.10 | bigzero | Xinhuan, are you respeccing? |
| 21:36.40 | Xinhuan | possibly |
| 21:36.40 | bigzero | NightHawkAtWork, i think that is like the cheapest thing ever |
| 21:36.51 | NightHawkAtWork | bigzero: what do you mean? |
| 21:37.06 | bigzero | NightHawkAtWork, no mana cost for something that gives back mana |
| 21:37.28 | NightHawkAtWork | bigzero: *shrug* i suppose. I wouldn't have minded a minor mana cost to it, really. |
| 21:37.30 | bigzero | and it's not channeled |
| 21:38.01 | NightHawkAtWork | but really, the 2.3.2 change does't change how much mana is returned, only how many GCDs shaman have to spend on it. |
| 21:38.06 | bigzero | so, it's too nice...i'm not really sure if the periodic part vs all mana after the buff is over is better or orse |
| 21:38.08 | bigzero | worse* |
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| 21:38.25 | NeoTron | periodic is bette |
| 21:38.30 | NeoTron | imho |
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| 21:38.48 | NightHawkAtWork | ignoring the fact that you had to recast the fucking buff every 60s, the math comes out to about the same |
| 21:39.33 | diospadre | Does anyone know how to resize quartz cast bars through /script commands? I've been trying things along the lines of "/script Quartz_Player:set(w, 500)" but no luck |
| 21:39.37 | bigzero | blizzard fails...the talent calculator isn't updated yet |
| 21:39.53 | bigzero | neither is wowhead's |
| 21:39.59 | bigzero | anyone know one that is |
| 21:40.00 | bigzero | ? |
| 21:40.40 | cncfanatics | neither is yet |
| 21:43.48 | sag_ich_nicht | not like it needs much updating *sigh* |
| 21:44.10 | bigzero | exactly..so they should've done it |
| 21:44.21 | sag_ich_nicht | hm.. true enough. |
| 21:44.22 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 21:44.26 | smoke_ | are all the combat log addons messed up from the 2.3.2 patch? |
| 21:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | except EU still has 2.3 till tomorrow :P |
| 21:44.36 | smoke_ | err i mean anything that parses the combat log? |
| 21:44.46 | rubik | smoke_: i hope not cause combat log not supposed to be overhauled until 2.4 |
| 21:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | smoke_ no, just addons that are too dumb to SetMinMaxValues properly |
| 21:45.23 | smoke_ | k thanks |
| 21:45.37 | rubik | oh.. what changed? max log distance syntax or whatever? |
| 21:46.08 | sag_ich_nicht | what? |
| 21:46.33 | rubik | re: your comment, what in 2.3.2 changed in regards to SetMinMaxValues? |
| 21:46.46 | Kivin | rubik: the min and max fields are more strictly enforced |
| 21:46.52 | NivFreak | bigzero: they didn't give warriors a talent point refund when they DRASTICALLY changed our talent locations ;) |
| 21:46.53 | Kivin | max < min will throw "usage =" errors |
| 21:46.54 | Birdemani | so, everyone looking forward to the big 2.4 combat log changes? |
| 21:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | SetMinMaxValues is for Sliders in the GUI rubik |
| 21:47.09 | rubik | ahh gotcha, thanks |
| 21:47.10 | Birdemani | warriors got a talent point reset in 1.3 and thats it |
| 21:47.19 | Birdemani | and 2.0 |
| 21:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, not just that, but still, GUI mostly) |
| 21:47.27 | rubik | Birdemani: i am..looking fwd to WWS dying and something (free) replacing it |
| 21:47.38 | bigzero | NivFreak, and they should have. It's ridiculous |
| 21:47.38 | Birdemani | rubik: thats if someone makes one |
| 21:47.59 | rubik | indeed |
| 21:48.10 | Kivin | I'll make one if it kills WWS |
| 21:48.13 | NivFreak | bigzero: I agree, but it's thier standard way |
| 21:48.15 | Birdemani | and I didnt care too much about paying 3USD/month to host my info |
| 21:48.27 | rubik | i do.. i care about the principle alone |
| 21:48.46 | Birdemani | well, since the /combatlog output is moving to CSV, wws and all combatlog mods die without changes |
| 21:48.49 | rubik | charging for those reports to host them is fine.. but don't neuter the free version reports as badly as you do |
| 21:49.27 | rubik | if i want to host my own WWS reports display all the info you do in your paid hosting reports please.. that's all i ask for |
| 21:49.35 | NivFreak | eh |
| 21:49.38 | NivFreak | I don't mind what it's pay |
| 21:49.39 | bigzero | Birdemani, i'm sure they'll update then really quickly. they are getting money from them |
| 21:49.46 | Birdemani | the local versions were neutered, but you could host free ones with all the same bells and whistles from what I saw |
| 21:49.46 | rubik | but then he won't make any money cause everyone would host their own |
| 21:49.48 | NivFreak | If I didn't want to pay for it, I wouldn't use it |
| 21:49.51 | Ellipsis | does anyone maintain Fizzle? |
| 21:49.57 | NivFreak | but I stopped paying because lossendi has been a flake lately |
| 21:49.59 | Birdemani | lossendil has been afk for three months, so not sure |
| 21:50.00 | Amadeo | Snoop Dogg! |
| 21:50.30 | rubik | yeah.. regardless, WWS will be dead once 2.4 comes out and they've been afk for months so i'm sure they'll be slow to adapt to 2.4 changes |
| 21:50.46 | bigzero | god...frost is too good. I want to spend 61 points in it. |
| 21:51.03 | Birdemani | wws has some issues in it as well, the dps is a bit off in its calculations |
| 21:51.13 | NivFreak | did someone say not all mage gems have 3 charges? |
| 21:51.24 | Birdemani | I believe they do now |
| 21:51.41 | NivFreak | the DPS is odd in WWS |
| 21:51.47 | NivFreak | but the damage overall seems accurate |
| 21:52.09 | rubik | someone here was working on a new combatlog parser but forgot who |
| 21:52.12 | rubik | buu, maybe? |
| 21:52.23 | Birdemani | the dps is odd because if any pet is not added to its owner, its given to the group and raises their dps....also, on fights like Kael where someone is not doing dps all the time, it penalizes them |
| 21:52.25 | NivFreak | it's tempting to write one, it's not terribly complex |
| 21:52.49 | buu | WHAT |
| 21:52.50 | bigzero | rubik, i thought not all the details are out yet..and from what I gathered the new setup should not need much parsing |
| 21:52.54 | buu | I HEARD MY NAME. |
| 21:53.01 | NivFreak | rewrite WWS |
| 21:53.02 | rubik | yeah.. people are just waiting for 2.4 PTR to see how combatlog actually looks like |
| 21:53.02 | NivFreak | kthx |
| 21:53.06 | buu | NivFreak: I am =[ |
| 21:53.10 | NivFreak | sweet |
| 21:53.16 | rubik | buu is the man |
| 21:53.26 | NivFreak | I just want PoM/Lifebloom/Earthshield to get attributed to the right people :) |
| 21:53.33 | buu | rubik: There's two interesting points here. The first is, according to slouken, the information presented in the log WILL NOT CHANGE. |
| 21:53.35 | NivFreak | buu: got anything to play with? |
| 21:53.37 | durcyn | NivFreak: that's highly unlikely |
| 21:53.41 | Birdemani | niv, were you the one talking to bibi about hosting? |
| 21:53.49 | buu | rubik: The second is that 99% of the interesting stuff is realyl after you parse it. |
| 21:53.50 | Birdemani | er buu i mean |
| 21:53.54 | NivFreak | Birdemani: nope |
| 21:53.57 | buu | NivFreak: http://rexz.com/tmp/tmp_wws.html |
| 21:54.04 | NivFreak | 404 |
| 21:54.06 | rubik | buu: whoa.. info in log not change? |
| 21:54.06 | buu | Birdemani: Er, no. Hosting isn't an issue. |
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| 21:54.09 | buu | NivFreak: WHAT LIES. |
| 21:54.18 | buu | NivFreak: http://erxz.com/tmp/tmp_wws.html |
| 21:54.24 | buu | rubik: Yes. |
| 21:54.36 | buu | rubik: According to blue post, people with life bloom really are healing themselves. |
| 21:54.40 | NivFreak | omg where's my javascriptz |
| 21:54.43 | bigzero | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html imagine coldsnap is icy veins and iceblock is coldsnap. Any comments? Tier 1 of arcane is kinda shady...idk what to do really |
| 21:54.48 | buu | NivFreak: Non-existant. |
| 21:54.51 | Birdemani | 404 for me as well |
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| 21:54.55 | xyu | is there any way to quickly pause data collecting w/ recount? |
| 21:54.56 | buu | Birdemani: Are you sure? |
| 21:55.06 | Birdemani | yes buu |
| 21:55.11 | rubik | 2nd url doesn't 404 |
| 21:55.13 | buu | Birdemani: Second url |
| 21:55.17 | buu | First one had a typo =[ |
| 21:55.21 | Birdemani | kk |
| 21:55.29 | Birdemani | hold on, it locked up my IE7 |
| 21:55.34 | bigzero | ugh, i fail again http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?0500050000000000000000000000000000000000000000535323311230010251551 |
| 21:55.50 | buu | Birdemani: Yay, I win. |
| 21:55.53 | NivFreak | zomg |
| 21:55.55 | NivFreak | use wowhead |
| 21:55.59 | buu | NivFreak: Anyway, it's a super-super basic proof of concept. |
| 21:56.15 | xyu | buu is that a raid spec? |
| 21:56.16 | rubik | never understood why blizz talent calculator url is so fugly |
| 21:56.17 | buu | NivFreak: Most of my work has been devoted to actually parsing the insanity that is the wow combat log. |
| 21:56.25 | rubik | 2-minute code change to make it shorter? |
| 21:56.27 | buu | xyu: What? |
| 21:56.31 | Birdemani | buu: how are you going to handle dps calculations? |
| 21:56.31 | durcyn | rubik: because hashing is -hard- |
| 21:56.35 | NivFreak | buu: should be fun to update for 2.4 |
| 21:56.37 | xyu | If you're doing things like Hyjal, i'd rather have 2 into arcane subtley |
| 21:56.39 | NivFreak | a lot cleaner I expedt |
| 21:56.44 | NivFreak | expect even |
| 21:56.45 | Kivin | speaking of combat log, it doesn't parse the water shield changes any more |
| 21:56.49 | xyu | rather than have 5 into arcane focus |
| 21:56.51 | buu | NivFreak: Yeah, ideally I'll be able to just delete it and use the rest of the code. |
| 21:57.09 | xyu | sorry buu, meant bigzero |
| 21:57.09 | buu | Birdemani: DPS calculations are actually a source of some conversation recently.. |
| 21:57.25 | buu | Birdemani: Manly is suggesting some sort of dynamic combat time based on spell casts. |
| 21:57.28 | rubik | so if not in combatlog, where exactly will csv combatlog be present? via some function call? DumpCombatLogToCSV()? |
| 21:57.30 | bigzero | xyu, i doubt i'll be raiding much...probably just heroics mostly |
| 21:57.31 | NivFreak | so the combat log doesn't show casts for PoM/ES/LB? |
| 21:57.35 | NivFreak | only heals? |
| 21:57.37 | NivFreak | and gains |
| 21:57.38 | bigzero | xyu, i'd spec fire for raiding |
| 21:57.39 | buu | rubik: No no, it will be IN the combat log. |
| 21:57.41 | xyu | ah ok |
| 21:57.47 | buu | rubik: But the information presented therein will not change. |
| 21:57.54 | buu | rubik: with the possible exception of unique unit ids. |
| 21:58.04 | Birdemani | which are all hex based |
| 21:58.04 | NivFreak | I thought that part was confirmed |
| 21:58.07 | rubik | ahh ok.. so they'll change the UI frame/chatbox to show interpreted data then? |
| 21:58.15 | buu | rubik: What I mean is, we won't get any more actual information, life bloom will still count as a player healing himself and so on. |
| 21:58.17 | buu | rubik: Yes. |
| 21:58.18 | rubik | but when saved it's saved as "raw csv"? |
| 21:58.20 | xyu | if you're just doing 5 mans, why not get shatter? |
| 21:58.21 | rubik | kk |
| 21:58.33 | xyu | it's better than clear casting, i odnt think you'll run into mana problems in heroics |
| 21:58.35 | xyu | or kara |
| 21:58.56 | bigzero | xyu, hmmm... |
| 21:59.07 | bigzero | xyu, you may have a good point there |
| 21:59.52 | CIA-4 | 03julith * r58082 10GoodTarget/ (. GoodTarget.lua GoodTarget.toc): |
| 21:59.53 | CIA-4 | GoodTarget: |
| 21:59.53 | CIA-4 | - rewrote the whole thing |
| 21:59.53 | CIA-4 | - removed Thread-2.0 from externals (what the ****?) |
| 22:00.08 | rubik | GoodTarget? what that be? |
| 22:00.18 | [Ammo] | it's good, but not perfect |
| 22:00.29 | [Ammo] | pun intended |
| 22:00.36 | rubik | omg.. PerfectTargets replacement/alternative?! |
| 22:00.54 | rubik | guess not.. just read .toc file |
| 22:01.23 | durcyn | seems more like someone who failed to realize banzai existed |
| 22:01.32 | rubik | i still miss PerfectTargets so much and cry every raid i go to for not having it |
| 22:01.32 | Xinhuan | so what is it |
| 22:02.07 | rubik | ## Notes: Gives quick info if you have lost or gained aggro of your current target and the targets of you party. |
| 22:02.20 | [Ammo] | fai; |
| 22:02.22 | [Ammo] | fail |
| 22:02.23 | rubik | so sounds like Banzai + PerfectTargets |
| 22:03.10 | durcyn | is there another svn directory we can start moving that crap into |
| 22:03.16 | durcyn | like from /svn/trunk to /svn/dumb |
| 22:03.19 | durcyn | along with Alar* |
| 22:03.21 | rubik | lol |
| 22:03.31 | Fisker- | kael'thas = fun though |
| 22:03.40 | rubik | be nice.. a PerfectTarget alternative IS needed |
| 22:04.10 | NivFreak | what is perfecttarget? |
| 22:04.19 | xyu | is there any way to quickly pause recount data collection? |
| 22:04.32 | NivFreak | xyu: I'd love to know as well |
| 22:04.40 | xyu | i want to test my dr boom DPS but i can't, it keeps collecting it until i can get out of combat :( |
| 22:04.49 | [Liquidor] | disable it |
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| 22:05.04 | NivFreak | with recap I'd just pause it when I didn't care |
| 22:05.14 | xyu | will that save my data upon re-enable? |
| 22:05.33 | bigzero | wasn't someone saying that blizzard was supposed to fix tainting issues with dropdown menus this patch? |
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| 22:07.04 | Julith | yeah..."be nice" would be nice, thanks for the hints to banzai and perfect target anyway |
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| 22:08.51 | rubik | don't mind him.. your addon sounds useful still |
| 22:09.13 | Fisker- | bricks were shat |
| 22:09.29 | rubik | but you might want to look into uzing banzai for the aggro management thing since all that is already written in a library |
| 22:11.41 | buu | xyu: Use assessment instead? |
| 22:11.54 | buu | xyu: Just combatlog it and go from there? |
| 22:12.01 | aestil | buu! |
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| 22:12.09 | aestil | we killed archimonde. |
| 22:12.13 | aestil | i wasn't there though. |
| 22:12.20 | aestil | i stopped raiding for the time being. |
| 22:12.37 | buu | aestil: =/ |
| 22:12.40 | buu | aestil: p3 vashj |
| 22:12.52 | rubik | Julith: PerfectTargets i something that tekkub and recently thrae were working on.. which showed a frame with each target of someone in your raid and a count of how many folks had them targetted.. like this: http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/downloads/detail?name=PT1.jpg |
| 22:13.21 | rubik | it's currently broken (since 2.3.0) though |
| 22:15.00 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | it's been updated |
| 22:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | for 2.3 |
| 22:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but it still doesn't work |
| 22:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:15.13 | aestil | P3 vashj with 25 people alive? or p3 vashj with 5 people dead? |
| 22:15.31 | rubik | it was updated by thrae a week or two ago on the wowace svn but yes, it doesn't work, you're right |
| 22:15.32 | Hjalte | My guild just killed Vashj tonight :D |
| 22:16.05 | sag_ich_nicht | we have her on 2/4 generators but our paladin tank quit so now we kind of have a problem on tidewalker and solarian -.- |
| 22:16.46 | Julith | I think PerfectTarget is a different thing than GoodTarget but BanzaiAlert will definitly save me some (or the whole) code :) |
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| 22:17.49 | rubik | yup.. just wanted to give more details on what PerfectTargets was. ;) |
| 22:18.06 | buu | aestil: p3 vashj with 7 naga and 2 striders. |
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| 22:18.18 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: Man up and use frost novas imo. |
| 22:18.20 | RaydenUni | how long can you AFK before wow kicks you off the server? |
| 22:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | buu: don't tell that to me |
| 22:18.43 | bigzero | RaydenUni, forever :-) |
| 22:18.45 | rubik | i don't know exact answer but at least 15 mins? |
| 22:18.50 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: HA HA TOO LATE. |
| 22:19.07 | RaydenUni | i want to get in the AV queue and then take a nap |
| 22:19.10 | RaydenUni | but i think i'll get kicked off |
| 22:19.13 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 22:19.18 | sag_ich_nicht | tell that my raidleader and our retarded damage dealers |
| 22:19.28 | rubik | or rather, i know i've been away and afk timer showed 15.. which means that i was afk for a bit longer than that |
| 22:19.43 | Hjalte | Hmm. Do Blizzard ban people for buying gold? |
| 22:19.44 | rubik | (but not in a BG) |
| 22:19.53 | bigzero | RaydenUni, get in queue, get foreverAFK, go out of the capital city and turn it on |
| 22:20.09 | RaydenUni | yeah i need a bot to keep me from being AFK, not while in BG but just so i can get in |
| 22:20.23 | RaydenUni | what does the capital city do? |
| 22:20.42 | bigzero | makes foreverAFK not work |
| 22:20.54 | Josh_Borke | RaydenUni: get out of resting basically |
| 22:21.21 | Josh_Borke | Hjalte: think so |
| 22:21.21 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 22:21.32 | Hjalte | Josh_Borke: Good thing |
| 22:21.42 | Kivin | Xinhuan: ping |
| 22:22.43 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 22:22.52 | aestil | buu: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 22:22.56 | Stan_ | lol |
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| 22:23.07 | Stan_ | gm ordered us to BT |
| 22:23.17 | Kivin | Xinhuan: Aware that 2.3.2 owned wowequip? |
| 22:23.20 | Stan_ | to get our illidan loot |
| 22:23.24 | Xinhuan | yes i'm aware |
| 22:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | yes he is, Killmore |
| 22:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *Kivin |
| 22:23.30 | Kivin | Xinhuan: okay |
| 22:23.32 | Xinhuan | its only a small change, 3 lines of code fixes it |
| 22:23.35 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you tabcomplete |
| 22:23.49 | Kivin | Xinhuan: Can I do the change myself to get it back in the fight? |
| 22:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan i guess the commit for it is coming tomorrow? :P |
| 22:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (or in 4 hours when the EU servers go down) |
| 22:24.11 | Xinhuan | well i'll like to test the changes first |
| 22:24.30 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I'm not proposing to commit it. Just hackjob patch it on my end so i can use it |
| 22:24.31 | buu | aestil: We were totally winning. |
| 22:24.45 | Kivin | Xinhuan: is there something i can do a 'find' for and swap out? |
| 22:24.54 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:24.57 | Xinhuan | comment out the broken line |
| 22:25.02 | Kivin | okay |
| 22:25.05 | Xinhuan | and replace it with these 4 |
| 22:25.06 | Xinhuan | DressUpFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-defined", true) |
| 22:25.06 | Xinhuan | for name, value in pairs(UIPanelWindows["DressUpFrame"]) do |
| 22:25.06 | Xinhuan | DressUpFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-"..name, value); |
| 22:25.06 | Xinhuan | end |
| 22:25.09 | aestil | buu: seriously? we hit P3 with 0 striders and 2/3 naga. |
| 22:25.14 | Kivin | thanks |
| 22:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero lol that's awesome |
| 22:25.21 | buu | aestil: Yeah, seriously. |
| 22:25.28 | buu | aestil: It was pretty pro. |
| 22:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | why didn't anybody tell me before about the existance of forever afk? |
| 22:25.32 | aestil | i mean seriously about the 'you were winning' |
| 22:25.38 | buu | aestil: It was our first p3 and last attempt, so. |
| 22:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i can just sit in IF and afk! |
| 22:25.52 | Xinhuan | except it doesn't work in a city/inn |
| 22:25.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes, i can sit IN IF while doing so. if you don't know how, all the better) |
| 22:25.55 | rubik | i thought you had to sit outside a city |
| 22:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you have to. |
| 22:26.02 | aestil | you have a warlock or shaman tanking the striders? |
| 22:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i can still sit in IF. |
| 22:26.04 | sag_ich_nicht | now hush. |
| 22:26.15 | buu | aestil: If by 'tanking' you mean 'kiting' |
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| 22:26.22 | Xinhuan | i'll give you a cookie when you beat my /played |
| 22:26.24 | buu | aestil: We had a warlock do it, but it was all around terrible. |
| 22:26.26 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 22:26.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i can't. ever. |
| 22:26.32 | RaydenUni | time to go queue for 2 hours |
| 22:26.36 | Kivin | Xinhuan: wowequip.lua 619: 'GetUIPanelWindowInfo' nil? |
| 22:26.37 | aestil | well, yes, i mean kiting. |
| 22:26.44 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:26.51 | buu | aestil: For some reason we switched about half way through the attempts to using melee on elementals and ranged in the middle, complete terrible sauce. |
| 22:26.51 | Xinhuan | just get rid of that line and replace it with my 4 lines |
| 22:26.52 | aestil | buu, i can't imagine 7 naga. how were your tanks alive? |
| 22:26.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: you are genuinly addicted |
| 22:26.58 | buu | aestil: Eh? It wasn't bad at all |
| 22:27.06 | buu | aestil: They only died after vashj started killing healers. |
| 22:27.15 | Xinhuan | also this code change will also work on 2.3.0 non-patched EU servers |
| 22:27.55 | Kivin | Xinhuan: rebuilding with changes made |
| 22:27.58 | Kivin | thanks |
| 22:28.08 | Xinhuan | actually, i better test if it works in combat, but it shouldn't be an iiddue |
| 22:28.10 | Xinhuan | issue |
| 22:28.19 | aestil | man. |
| 22:28.26 | RaydenUni | oh, are the servers even up again? |
| 22:28.29 | RaydenUni | haven't checked in a while |
| 22:28.34 | aestil | we actually wait to start P3 to time it with the death of the last strider. |
| 22:28.51 | sag_ich_nicht | well Xinhuan |
| 22:28.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it will work |
| 22:29.20 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell, setting frame attributes on a non-secure frame can't possibly break it |
| 22:29.29 | Xinhuan | or even taint any damn thing |
| 22:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 22:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i know it will work because i know how you code |
| 22:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and i know it will work |
| 22:30.01 | buu | aestil: Yeah, it was very much a last ditch effort to get the 4th core. |
| 22:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | because i can move my spellbook in combat, drag spells from it etc. without breaking anything, which should be impossible afaik. |
| 22:30.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:30.13 | buu | aestil: I think we proved that rogues are terrible on stairs though. |
| 22:30.19 | sag_ich_nicht | what, why? |
| 22:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm a damn retribution paladin and can keep a whole stair clean, a rogue should have it way fucking easier |
| 22:31.00 | CrazyBenny | our rogues didnt have problems with it |
| 22:31.30 | aestil | rogues are terrible on stairs. |
| 22:31.46 | RaydenUni | stairs? |
| 22:31.53 | aestil | rogues much better off on naga. |
| 22:31.58 | buu | yeah no shit. |
| 22:31.58 | RaydenUni | oh a place |
| 22:31.59 | aestil | and killing 'leakage' on the elementals |
| 22:32.04 | buu | Why the hell put rogues on stairs. |
| 22:32.05 | [SW]Dodge | vashj :D |
| 22:32.15 | [SW]Dodge | this ugly bit*h -.- |
| 22:32.16 | mort | we always used casters for the stairs and melee dps on the naga |
| 22:32.17 | aestil | and then you don't put as much preasure on the stairs to kill EVERY SINGLE ONE. |
| 22:32.25 | buu | mort: That's how I want to do it =/ |
| 22:32.32 | aestil | as a shadow priest, i always cover the north side naga/strider/leakage |
| 22:32.33 | buu | aestil: But it's way easier to adjust also. |
| 22:32.33 | Estil | I love Chimera by Yahpp. |
| 22:32.44 | buu | aestil: Like, when a rogue grabs a core, it's hilarious. |
| 22:32.46 | aestil | I have spirit tap going almost 100% of the time, because i get KB's on elementals. |
| 22:32.58 | buu | aestil: We put our spriest on the strider.. |
| 22:33.43 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58083 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Add some more talents |
| 22:33.55 | mort | same here, we had a group with 2 shadows for the strider, never lost any substantial amout of mana :P |
| 22:35.11 | aestil | buu, thats good, more than 1 sp is good. 3 sp's is good. |
| 22:35.12 | Chompers | so im stuck on vashj |
| 22:35.24 | aestil | increase mage and hunter and shaman dps tremendously, them not having to worry about mana as much. |
| 22:35.27 | Chompers | would moving the elemental groups in phase two to the inner ring help at all? |
| 22:35.38 | aestil | thats a terribad idea. |
| 22:35.39 | aestil | don't do that. |
| 22:35.54 | aestil | its just group makeup and people being comfortable with their roles. |
| 22:36.07 | Chompers | the groups are getting overrun by elementals |
| 22:36.13 | aestil | we have people on the stairs make a 'leakeage' macro that whispers someone in charge of keeping elementals from getting to vashj. |
| 22:36.17 | aestil | then they are failing. |
| 22:36.36 | shieldb | also the less people up above the top edge means less forked lightning in that direction |
| 22:36.37 | aestil | chompers, tell them to do better, get better classes on those jobs. |
| 22:36.46 | buu | Chompers: Tell them to stop sucking. |
| 22:36.51 | Chompers | i did |
| 22:36.51 | buu | Chompers: Who do you have on stairs? |
| 22:36.58 | Chompers | melee |
| 22:37.03 | buu | Fail. |
| 22:37.04 | aestil | we have 2 - 3 melee on naga + last second 'oh crap' on elementals. |
| 22:37.14 | aestil | we have 5-6 magic dpsing the strider. |
| 22:37.20 | buu | Chompers: Are they all victory rushing warriors? |
| 22:37.25 | aestil | we have a north and south person to catch leakage. |
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| 22:37.43 | aestil | melee on stairs is fine. |
| 22:37.49 | aestil | just like warriors, and shaman. |
| 22:37.59 | aestil | locks are great. |
| 22:38.09 | aestil | couple SB's and those things go down. |
| 22:38.12 | aestil | hunters OWN |
| 22:38.19 | Chompers | im doing fine on my elementals |
| 22:38.26 | aestil | a hunter with increased range can cover a huge area. |
| 22:38.29 | Chompers | but others are failing when a tainted one turns up |
| 22:38.36 | aestil | chompers, yes, thats fine. |
| 22:38.45 | aestil | its why you have people up to assigned to cover if something gets through. |
| 22:38.46 | mort | we had 4 caster on the strider and they helped out on the naga too |
| 22:38.54 | Chompers | fair enough |
| 22:38.55 | aestil | when a tainted comes, you have people who make sure nothign gets thorugh. |
| 22:38.59 | RaydenUni | this sounds like a fun fight |
| 22:39.03 | aestil | 1 ranged, and 3 melee. |
| 22:39.23 | aestil | mort, yes, dot classes on the strider are awesome, because they can keep dots on naga as well. |
| 22:39.29 | aestil | which increases raid dps alot. |
| 22:39.47 | aestil | but we have at least 4 people on backup, so that if stuff gets through, they make sure to kill be fore it gets to vashj. |
| 22:39.56 | aestil | then they go back to their other priorities. |
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| 22:40.11 | Chompers | thats a good idea |
| 22:40.17 | Chompers | just who to steal from other areas |
| 22:40.20 | mort | we had one rogue to cover for elementals if a tainted spawned |
| 22:40.31 | aestil | the melee should be rogues, they should be killing tanked naga. |
| 22:40.41 | aestil | the ranged should be SP's IMO |
| 22:40.57 | aestil | SP's can dot all the naga, dot the strider, and kill the elmentals easily. |
| 22:41.05 | mort | locks and shadows are awesome for that fight |
| 22:41.10 | buu | aestil: |
| 22:41.14 | buu | aestil: How many healers is that? |
| 22:41.15 | Ellipsis | s/for that fight// |
| 22:41.23 | Chompers | one lock :< |
| 22:41.29 | mort | a lock can jsut dot the elementals and they die before reaching her |
| 22:41.30 | buu | Chompers: Get a better raid. |
| 22:41.35 | Chompers | okay |
| 22:41.40 | buu | That was easy! |
| 22:41.41 | Chompers | ill go download that asap |
| 22:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Chompers |
| 22:41.52 | sag_ich_nicht | install Scrub. |
| 22:41.57 | Chompers | it is |
| 22:42.08 | aestil | looks like we take 7 healers. |
| 22:42.15 | mort | scrub does not scan for incompetence ;) |
| 22:42.24 | Chompers | 10 red players |
| 22:42.30 | Chompers | 8 yellow |
| 22:42.31 | aestil | 13 dps. |
| 22:42.36 | aestil | wait. |
| 22:42.41 | sag_ich_nicht | mort no, but it scans for retards that need to lern2spec |
| 22:42.44 | aestil | 15 dps. |
| 22:42.48 | aestil | 3 tanks. |
| 22:42.49 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58084 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Fix for WoWEquip.lua: 619: attempt to call global 'GetUIPanelWindowInfo' (a nil value) |
| 22:43.06 | aestil | our most recent kill to attune people was 3 tanks, 7 healers, 15 dps. |
| 22:43.23 | aestil | 5 melee dps, and the rest ranged. |
| 22:43.27 | mort | and still my druid is red flagged for not having improved motw ;) |
| 22:43.38 | aestil | 2 fury warriors, 2 rogues, and 1 enahnce shaman. |
| 22:44.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:42] <Chompers> 10 red players <--looks like your raid sucks |
| 22:44.20 | aestil | i'm guessing it would flag my spec as red. |
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| 22:44.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a few red flagged people in my raid as well, but the raid leader is too much of a baby to do anything about it -.- |
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| 22:44.29 | aestil | bbl. |
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| 22:44.36 | sag_ich_nicht | and i mean actual SUCK specs |
| 22:44.51 | Kivin | what addon does the flagging |
| 22:44.51 | mort | there are some questionable red flags in scrub imho |
| 22:45.05 | Kivin | scrub, is it? |
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| 22:45.25 | bigzero | Kivin, yes |
| 22:45.34 | bigzero | mort, someone really needs to fix them imo |
| 22:46.03 | Xinhuan | it flagged me because i have "Improved Arcane Missiles without Empowered Arcane Missiles" |
| 22:46.04 | Xinhuan | like wtf |
| 22:46.10 | Xinhuan | who cares about filler points |
| 22:46.31 | sag_ich_nicht | since when |
| 22:46.33 | sag_ich_nicht | are those filler points |
| 22:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | for a deep arcane spec? |
| 22:46.43 | Xinhuan | except i'm not arcane spec? |
| 22:46.50 | Xinhuan | 10/48/3 standard fire |
| 22:46.58 | Oojoo|afk | not for arcane spec, but for deep fire |
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| 22:47.16 | mort | because the other talents are better fillers ;) |
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| 22:47.41 | Xinhuan | oh yes that 10 arcane resist less on my sheep is going to help me more in Black temple |
| 22:47.46 | Xinhuan | don't be stupid :) |
| 22:48.00 | mort | subtlety is nice in aoe encounters |
| 22:48.12 | Teufel | hey is anyone on tichondrius |
| 22:48.16 | Xinhuan | how many aoe encounters can you name ? |
| 22:48.19 | Xinhuan | just use flamestrike |
| 22:48.20 | xyu | hyjal |
| 22:48.37 | Xinhuan | also with a prot pally, its damn impossible to pull aggro off him on aoe packs |
| 22:48.41 | Xinhuan | so arcane sub is a waste |
| 22:48.41 | Arrowmaster | who wrote scrub? i want to tell him hes a scrub for his usage of ;s |
| 22:48.43 | Xinhuan | of points |
| 22:48.54 | xyu | flamestrike radius |
| 22:48.55 | xyu | is shit |
| 22:49.02 | Xinhuan | that doesn't negate my argument |
| 22:49.03 | mort | iam is a waste of points too |
| 22:49.08 | xyu | it does if you're missing mobs |
| 22:49.11 | CIA-4 | 03aliset * r58085 10oRA2_PvPDetection/Pvp.lua: |
| 22:49.11 | CIA-4 | oRA2_PvPDetection: |
| 22:49.11 | CIA-4 | - Put in permaflag detection code in this module rather than waiting for commit to oRA2. |
| 22:49.11 | CIA-4 | - Permaflag detection should work fine now. |
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| 22:49.15 | Chompers | meh, last attempt for the night |
| 22:49.22 | Xinhuan | arcane sub is a waste of points if nothing is resistant to arcane |
| 22:49.29 | Kivin | !c us Cenarion'Circle Turke |
| 22:49.30 | Chompers | not enough people around to do elementals and nagas/stryders |
| 22:49.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 22:49.40 | sag_ich_nicht | how about |
| 22:49.44 | sag_ich_nicht | instead of flaming about it |
| 22:49.46 | Xinhuan | and neither do you need the -threat with prot pallies |
| 22:49.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you go and post your complaints on the EJ forums? |
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| 22:49.57 | xyu | sure you do |
| 22:50.00 | xyu | you can just start aoe'ing sooner |
| 22:50.45 | ThraeBot | Kivin: Turke is not the character you are looking for! |
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| 22:53.26 | buu | Arrowmaster: For his usage of semi-colons? |
| 22:53.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:54.10 | buu | Fascinating. Do go on. |
| 22:54.37 | TecnoBrat | he uses them |
| 22:54.40 | TecnoBrat | amirite? |
| 22:54.53 | Kivin | And what's the matter with semi-colons? |
| 22:54.54 | Xinhuan | lua> ;;;;; |
| 22:54.54 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string ";;;;;"]:1: unexpected symbol near ';' |
| 22:55.35 | Tuller | liua> print"pants" |
| 22:55.36 | Xinhuan | lua> ; |
| 22:55.36 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 22:55.42 | Tuller | lua> print"pants" |
| 22:55.43 | lua_bot | Tuller: pants |
| 22:55.44 | Xinhuan | i guess lua doesn't like 2 ;s in a row |
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| 22:58.38 | hypetech | Wasn't the mod SLTimex on Wowace for a while? |
| 22:58.44 | hypetech | is CML the same thing? |
| 22:59.12 | Arrowmaster | Timex used to be a mod on wowace |
| 22:59.19 | Tuller | xinhuan: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#8 :P |
| 22:59.19 | Arrowmaster | but it died with 1.x |
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| 23:12.06 | Julith | what means "unit lost aggro" at BanzaiLib? That the unit has lost the aggro of one mob or of every mob? |
| 23:12.26 | hypetech | probably means they aren't being targetted anymore |
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| 23:14.15 | Julith | shit... |
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| 23:20.03 | mort | foo |
| 23:20.07 | mort | fc |
| 23:20.37 | CIA-4 | 03xinhuan * r58086 10BankItems/ (6 files): BankItems: Bump version to 23003 for patch 2.3.2 |
| 23:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan what |
| 23:30.52 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 23:30.53 | sag_ich_nicht | toc changed with 2.3? |
| 23:31.05 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 23:31.16 | Xinhuan | patch 2.3.2 changed the default UI layout functions |
| 23:31.22 | Xinhuan | so i had to update it and release a new version to UI sites |
| 23:31.29 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 23:31.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you version your addons by game version? |
| 23:31.51 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 23:31.53 | Tekkub | hrm... what'd be the fastest way (linux, command line) to recures an SVN checkout and find if there are any externals? |
| 23:31.53 | sag_ich_nicht | because the svn entry read like you just changed the ToC |
| 23:32.22 | kergoth | Tekkub: propget has an argumento to recurse :P |
| 23:32.24 | Xinhuan | for this particular addon, the version numbering is matched by the toc |
| 23:32.27 | kergoth | svn propget -R svn:externals . or so |
| 23:32.35 | Xinhuan | at least, the major.minor is the first 2 digits |
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| 23:33.04 | durcyn | er, i thought current toc version was 20300 |
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| 23:33.28 | sag_ich_nicht | durcyn that's the point. |
| 23:33.35 | Xinhuan | .. i numbered the version 23003, that has nothing to do with the toc number which is 20300 |
| 23:33.45 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i figured that |
| 23:33.47 | Xinhuan | 23000 -> 23001 -> 23002 -> 23003 |
| 23:33.48 | sag_ich_nicht | guess durcyn didn't |
| 23:33.58 | Xinhuan | the toc number remains 20300 for all 4 versions |
| 23:34.01 | durcyn | can't be arsed to care quite that much |
| 23:34.58 | Gnarfoz | cba is a very good motto |
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| 23:42.06 | NivFreak | is there an addon that announces when you have a CC that needs cleansing via raid warning? |
| 23:42.06 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:44.15 | bigzero | i think BigWigs_CommonAuras might |
| 23:44.15 | bigzero | not sure |
| 23:44.15 | bigzero | sounds like it would |
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| 23:45.17 | Primer | I saw a friend playing once with a UI that allowed him to mouseover unit frames of raid/party members and upon mouseover, display a popup with different healing/de-curse/de-disease icons inside it |
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| 23:45.27 | Primer | Anyone know of one that does this? |
| 23:46.46 | NivFreak | bigzero: I don't think it does |
| 23:46.58 | bigzero | maybe not..idk |
| 23:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. bigzero did i tell you what CDT2s actual problem was? |
| 23:47.21 | bigzero | everything? |
| 23:47.37 | bigzero | i think you may have...i forgot |
| 23:47.50 | bigzero | did you guys change quite a bit of it |
| 23:47.51 | bigzero | ? |
| 23:47.55 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 23:48.02 | sag_ich_nicht | there were a few things |
| 23:48.17 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially options.lua is written specificially for waterfall |
| 23:48.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and uses fields like wfHidden instead of hidden |
| 23:48.58 | sag_ich_nicht | then there were(are) a ton of globals instead of locals |
| 23:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 23:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | that all doesn't matter since options.lua is incomplete. |
| 23:49.32 | sag_ich_nicht | menu.lua is written specificially for dewdrop and has quite a few options more than options.lua |
| 23:50.36 | sag_ich_nicht | so what would be needed is for someone to write a new single uh... let's call it settings.lua(or refurbish options.lua) to include those, use hidden instead of wfHidden and use proper locals |
| 23:50.52 | bigzero | what were thay (very quick version would be enough :-) ) |
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| 23:50.53 | bigzero | and is it working fine now? no feature loss? |
| 23:50.53 | bigzero | ~framexml |
| 23:50.53 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 23:50.53 | bigzero | err...purl give me the damn framexml extraction link...please |
| 23:51.19 | bigzero | i think i just lagged...bad |
| 23:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | no, purl did. |
| 23:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | oh acutally no |
| 23:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | the IRC server lagged |
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| 23:52.03 | bigzero | ah, good....i was like, holly shit, sag just wrote a ton |
| 23:52.16 | sag_ich_nicht | bigzero: not really, Xinhuan gave me a fix for some of the globals and wrote a bit of code that copied all wfHidden to hidden, but that didn't fix all of it, it just made it work _kind of_ |
| 23:52.46 | Xinhuan | the fix was simple |
| 23:53.02 | Xinhuan | i wrote a recursive function that copied the wfHidden fields to hidden fields |
| 23:53.03 | CIA-4 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r58087 10VisualHeal/PitBull_VisualHeal.lua: |
| 23:53.03 | CIA-4 | VisualHeal: |
| 23:53.03 | CIA-4 | - Implement sparks between bars |
| 23:53.08 | NivFreak | is detox any good? |
| 23:53.09 | Xinhuan | then added 2 locals at the top of the file |
| 23:53.29 | bigzero | Xinhuan, couldn't you have done a search and replace? |
| 23:53.32 | Kivin | I may have to make the switch to carto_routes or whatever it is. I'm losing 18 FPS by having my gatherer HUD up |
| 23:53.33 | Xinhuan | since the silly addon was actually using globals |
| 23:53.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it's still buggy as hell, but i can't be arsed to debug options.lua further and i don't want to bother Xinhuan any more with it, and using the dewdrop menu works fine |
| 23:53.40 | Xinhuan | i didn't want to break waterfall |
| 23:54.20 | sag_ich_nicht | hidding/unhidding properly isn't working in waterfall either, it just works better than in rock Xinhuan, but it's still a buggy PITA |
| 23:54.50 | Xinhuan | Kivin, sometime in the future, there will be a new gathering mod :) |
| 23:54.54 | Xinhuan | and a new routes mod |
| 23:55.08 | Xinhuan | nothing fancy though |
| 23:55.10 | Kivin | I am sort of partial to my HUD |
| 23:56.12 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: well hurry up ! |
| 23:56.15 | bigzero | herbing with druid is so cheap |
| 23:56.43 | Xinhuan | i want to finish up wowequip first, i might even rewrite the entire 3500-line mess that grew over half a year |
| 23:56.53 | Xinhuan | the code is efficient, BUT the code is messy and not namespaced |
| 23:57.15 | bigzero | some time in the hopefully near future you'll be able to easily unload addons you don't use while not raiding and load the ones you do |
| 23:57.53 | Kivin | WTB a DeleteFrame() API |
| 23:58.05 | sag_ich_nicht | not gonna happen, Killmore |
| 23:58.06 | bigzero | ReloadUI() |
| 23:58.09 | sag_ich_nicht | *Kivin |
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| 23:58.21 | Kivin | I'm aware sag_ich_nicht. None the less |
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| 23:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:57] <bigzero> some time in the hopefully near future you'll be able to easily unload addons you don't use while not raiding and load the ones you do <--wait what? |
| 23:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | did you smoke something? and if so, what the hell is it and where can i get it |
| 23:59.55 | bigzero | huh? |
