| 00:00.22 | bigzero | that's the one thing i don't like about the new wowace setup |
| 00:00.32 | buu | SEXIST THING EVER. |
| 00:00.42 | Ellipsis | teehee, sexist |
| 00:00.47 | buu | Yes. |
| 00:00.50 | buu | Sexisty. |
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| 00:02.24 | Fin | /me votes for bigzero |
| 00:02.43 | Fin | -that crap at the beginningf |
| 00:02.45 | Fin | -f |
| 00:02.59 | Fin | k, done? all finished? |
| 00:03.02 | Fin | good |
| 00:03.11 | Amadeo | You're the one that's named Fin |
| 00:03.44 | Lukian | hahah routes made a figure 8, kinda, in terrokar :D |
| 00:05.30 | Lukian | Cartographer_Routes_stats would be sexy |
| 00:05.43 | Fin | what would it be statistics of? |
| 00:05.44 | Lukian | Mined x ore in x minutes using this route |
| 00:06.10 | Gnarfoz | and how would it detect if you actually used that route |
| 00:06.26 | Lukian | his waypoints he's working on |
| 00:06.28 | Gnarfoz | (also there's other people around, so results may vary extremely) |
| 00:06.47 | Fisker- | oh hai Fin |
| 00:06.49 | Lukian | that's my point |
| 00:06.56 | Lukian | you want to mine the least popular route |
| 00:07.02 | Lukian | because it gives you the most gains |
| 00:07.21 | Fin | why is it the least popular, then? |
| 00:07.23 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r57987 10ActionCombat/Locale_koKR.lua: |
| 00:07.23 | CIA-8 | ActionCombat : |
| 00:07.23 | CIA-8 | - koKR Update |
| 00:07.26 | Lukian | route &/or ozne |
| 00:08.44 | Lukian | grr two people farming terrokar atm |
| 00:09.04 | Fin | are you in the EU? |
| 00:09.20 | Lukian | nah US |
| 00:09.26 | Fin | so what time is it there? |
| 00:09.30 | Lukian | 11am |
| 00:09.35 | Fin | jesus |
| 00:09.46 | Fin | are you on a low populated server? |
| 00:09.47 | Lukian | well, by US I mean realms :p |
| 00:09.57 | Lukian | nope |
| 00:09.58 | Lukian | it's full |
| 00:10.00 | Fin | huh |
| 00:10.15 | Fin | there's normally at least 3 or 4 people farming Terokkar in the day on my server |
| 00:10.41 | Lukian | done :D |
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| 00:11.10 | Lukian | I got all of 3 fel iron and 3 admantite from terrokar.. |
| 00:12.08 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r57988 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua: |
| 00:12.08 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 00:12.08 | CIA-8 | - Fixed Improved Seal of the Crusader |
| 00:12.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r199abd29b0 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (6 files): Horde guide tweaks |
| 00:12.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r2c761ee211 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Teldrassil.lua: Cleanup of user teldy changes |
| 00:12.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r0e975a1ec0 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Teldrassil.lua: User Teldy tweaky |
| 00:13.07 | Lukian | whoa! found a node not in my data file |
| 00:13.29 | Fin | Seerah: grats on the modification |
| 00:13.31 | Fin | er, hmm |
| 00:13.42 | Seerah | lol - thanks Fin |
| 00:13.42 | Fin | that was a made up word that turned into a real word right before my very eyes |
| 00:14.09 | Fin | grats on the modalisification, no, that's not right |
| 00:14.14 | Fin | anyway, grats :) |
| 00:14.31 | Fin | how much did it cost btw, I was thinking about it myself? |
| 00:15.11 | Seerah | haha - depends upon how much you've paid already, I suppose ;) |
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| 00:18.06 | Zhinjio | ok, allakhazam has failed me. |
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| 00:18.55 | Seerah | hate alla |
| 00:19.42 | Zhinjio | in their item db, they show a crafted item, lets say "Boots of the Protector" as having "is_crafted=1" |
| 00:19.55 | Zhinjio | however, it does NOT have a requiredskill or requiredskilllevel |
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| 00:20.03 | Zhinjio | the plans have them skill and level |
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| 00:20.51 | PinkElephant | hi |
| 00:21.01 | Seerah | hello |
| 00:21.26 | PinkElephant | does someone know the best way to search for people that do not have a guild, ive been looking for a addon but cant find one and the prefix /who g-"" 70 doesnt work either |
| 00:22.15 | PinkElephant | and best something that shows if i have whispered someone already so i dont double ask |
| 00:22.25 | PinkElephant | is ther any addon outthere for that? |
| 00:22.25 | bigzero | omg...guild invite spamming is ftl |
| 00:22.44 | PinkElephant | no i just dont invite i ask if they are looking for a guild |
| 00:22.59 | bigzero | same thing, but nope, don't know of any |
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| 00:24.19 | PinkElephant | ok then is there a addon to mark someone i have whispered in the /who list? |
| 00:24.19 | Lukian | PinkElephant, i thought g-"" used to work |
| 00:24.36 | PinkElephant | nope doesnt seem so |
| 00:25.06 | Seerah | no offense, PinkElephant, but I don't join guilds who just randomly ask. If I'm looking for a guild, I'll look for a guild. :) |
| 00:25.22 | PinkElephant | :> |
| 00:25.25 | Lukian | I agree with Seerah |
| 00:25.32 | Lukian | you should sit in a populated city |
| 00:25.37 | ulic | isn't there a channel full of people looking for guilds |
| 00:25.40 | Lukian | and just whisper people that come nearby |
| 00:25.44 | Seerah | another reason is that they don't know anything about me, but want me to join anyway - that means that who the hell knows what types of characters are in the guild already |
| 00:26.01 | thul | I have a hard time finding a guild with adults :-( |
| 00:26.26 | PinkElephant | well yea but still people sometimes are looking for one but dont realy look seriosly |
| 00:26.33 | Seerah | I just transferred servers last week. Before I moved over, I looked at the realm forums, guild websites, etc, and contacted a guild to find out more info before I transferred |
| 00:26.37 | PinkElephant | anyway is there a addon that marks people i wispered |
| 00:26.45 | Seerah | not that I know of |
| 00:27.43 | PinkElephant | mm |
| 00:27.53 | thul | i just want a pretty casual but social and mature guild |
| 00:27.53 | PinkElephant | anyway to make the /who list more than 49 people |
| 00:28.27 | Seerah | that might be hardcoded in, like friends list, but not sure |
| 00:28.53 | PinkElephant | mm census |
| 00:29.00 | PinkElephant | that searches for everybody i think |
| 00:29.19 | PinkElephant | does it use zones for searching or just normal /who 1-5 /who 6-10 |
| 00:29.21 | bigzero | PinkElephant, you can't get more than 50 people, no |
| 00:29.40 | Seerah | census does something like /who ironforge 1 |
| 00:29.46 | Seerah | then /who ironforge 2 |
| 00:29.47 | Seerah | etc |
| 00:29.55 | thul | someone must explain to me: "axes: ok, maces: ok, dagger: ok, fists: ok.. BUT NO; NO SWOEEEERDS!!!" |
| 00:29.57 | Fin | it does /who a-b |
| 00:30.07 | Fin | if that reaches 49, it does /who aa-ab |
| 00:30.09 | Seerah | ah |
| 00:30.15 | Seerah | I just know that it doesn't do everything at once |
| 00:30.30 | Seerah | if you open up your /who window while it's scanning you can see that |
| 00:30.32 | Fin | the 49 people thing is a server-side limit as far as I know |
| 00:30.35 | PinkElephant | does it show names/guilds/level and so on |
| 00:31.09 | Seerah | I don't recall if it shows everything in its frame - I haven't run it in a very long time |
| 00:31.35 | Fin | Census? |
| 00:31.39 | Fin | arg, -crap |
| 00:32.51 | Fin | yeah, it does, but it's not a replacement for /who |
| 00:33.16 | bigzero | YES!!!! http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25295 of intellect is finally mine!!! |
| 00:34.14 | Fin | is that the highest int green wand in the game, or something? |
| 00:34.42 | bigzero | yeah |
| 00:35.21 | Fin | is there a blue or purple wand with more? |
| 00:35.28 | bigzero | hmmm, i don't remember |
| 00:35.34 | bigzero | it think there is an epic healing one |
| 00:35.40 | bigzero | but gl getting that as a mage |
| 00:35.48 | bigzero | it's like from Hijal or something |
| 00:36.18 | Lukian | bigzero, why that wand? :o |
| 00:36.24 | bigzero | actually, there isn't just checked |
| 00:36.55 | bigzero | that wand combined with Voodoo Hex-Staff of Intellect gives me like 800 more mana from evocation |
| 00:37.04 | Lukian | ah1 |
| 00:37.06 | Lukian | good use! |
| 00:37.28 | Seerah | the armory shows 3 wands (blue/purple) with 11 int, and 7 more with higher |
| 00:37.42 | bigzero | that one has 18 int |
| 00:38.02 | Seerah | one with 15. you get with badges http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=33192 |
| 00:38.47 | Seerah | I would rather have a wand with stats, gems, dmg, crit, whatever, then the highest int :) |
| 00:38.56 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25183 56 int on 2h...you can get an off-hand + main-hand combo with the same int |
| 00:39.01 | Seerah | then again, I already have TONS of man :) |
| 00:39.10 | bigzero | Seerah, this is only for use during evocation |
| 00:39.13 | Seerah | *mana |
| 00:39.18 | bigzero | to boost total mana |
| 00:39.37 | bigzero | since evo got changed to restore percent of your total mana |
| 00:39.39 | Seerah | I see. I have a spirit set for the old mechanic |
| 00:43.12 | Fin | Seerah: chuck us a link to your armory profile then :) |
| 00:43.35 | Seerah | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alexstrasza&n=Seerah |
| 00:43.53 | Seerah | logged out with carrot on :( |
| 00:44.42 | Lukian | Trivia: hellfire is to fel iron veins as ____ is to adamantite |
| 00:45.10 | Fin | Seerah: you a fan of spell penetration then? |
| 00:45.46 | thul | bugged quests ftw. |
| 00:45.54 | Seerah | I think I only have the enchant on my cloak. That's really not a lot of Penetration. :) |
| 00:46.00 | thul | Lukian: shadowmoon? :-P |
| 00:46.19 | Lukian | thul, yeah? I'll go check soon ^_^ |
| 00:46.36 | Seerah | there may be one other thing with penetration on it, don't remember |
| 00:47.20 | Seerah | Fin: then again, it may just be counting talents... /shrug |
| 00:47.38 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.04 | thul | arrrgh, I hate bugged quests. |
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| 00:51.52 | thul | hmm |
| 00:52.01 | thul | how long does one have to wait for that frikkin gm:p |
| 00:53.37 | ulic | 2 days |
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| 01:24.25 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-8 | - Corrected german Bossnames file |
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| 01:31.36 | Hjalte | Some people say that the best place for aldor rep is Deaths door, and some say it's the demons at Legion Hold. Anyone has any experience grinding aldor rep? |
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| 01:37.46 | mort | i did it al legions hold |
| 01:38.14 | mort | nice respawnrate and not so over farmed |
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| 01:51.27 | bigzero | getting 415 defense as a druid is kinda hard... :-( |
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| 01:57.19 | Hey-WTF | bigzero: resilience is your friend |
| 01:58.00 | Thelyna | but yeah if you want to do it with pure def that kinda limits your gear choices |
| 01:58.39 | mort | not that hard imho |
| 01:58.53 | bigzero | resilience for tanking? |
| 01:59.00 | bigzero | does that help that much? |
| 01:59.07 | Thelyna | resilience for crit immunity yes |
| 01:59.14 | mort | resilience reduces critchance |
| 01:59.19 | Thelyna | getting crit immune is a major step in tanking |
| 01:59.36 | mort | but 415 defense isn't so hard with heroic gear |
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| 01:59.50 | Thelyna | getting crit at the wrong time by the wrong mob can completely ruin your whole day |
| 02:01.43 | mort | if you don't know rawr, check it out at http://druid.wikispaces.com/Rawr it's nice to get zour gear together |
| 02:03.40 | Shirik | meh, I don't agree with tanks using resilience to go crit immune |
| 02:03.54 | Shirik | far easier to take the normal approach, 100%+ mitigation |
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| 02:09.08 | Codayus | Using Resilience for the last couple points needed to become crit immune really isn't a bad idea for druids, since they get less benefit from defense anyhow, and because their itemization tends to favor it. |
| 02:09.48 | Antiarc | Defense seems pretty lackluster for druids, since they don't get parry/block from it. |
| 02:09.55 | mort | and hitting 102,4% mitigation is for crushing immunity and has nothing to do with crits |
| 02:10.40 | Codayus | Warriors get more benefit from defense, and have no shortage of good plate with def on it. (And the same goes for prot paladins.) |
| 02:10.55 | Antiarc | Defense is basically just resil + dodge for druids, really. |
| 02:11.09 | Antiarc | And resil + agi is probably a lot cheaper in the item budget |
| 02:11.33 | Antiarc | However, IANAD. |
| 02:11.39 | Silowyi | is Arcane Explosion higher DPS than Blizzard? |
| 02:12.06 | mort | the s3 gear is lovely for tanking, if you like to play pvp |
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| 02:14.15 | RaydenUni | how much +healing for resto druid in KZ? |
| 02:14.22 | thul | 800 |
| 02:14.48 | mort | 1000-1200 |
| 02:15.34 | thul | I have to find a guild that wants an enhancement shaman |
| 02:15.37 | Codayus | Early resto itemization is poor. Even so, if you aren't breaking 1k healing, that seems...odd. A good player should be fine with much lower gear of course; a bad player will be a disaster with far more. |
| 02:15.39 | thul | "we want you to heal, repsec" :-( |
| 02:15.39 | Silowyi | is Arcane Explosion higher DPS than Blizzard? |
| 02:15.48 | Antiarc | There are guilds that don't want enhancement shaman? |
| 02:15.55 | thul | believe me, yes |
| 02:16.03 | Antiarc | 25-man raiding guilds? |
| 02:16.07 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 02:16.09 | thul | "we need healers more than we need that extra dps in the melee group" etc |
| 02:16.11 | Codayus | thul: Every guild should want at least one; anything else is retarded. |
| 02:16.14 | RaydenUni | this guy has 767 + healing |
| 02:16.16 | Antiarc | That's retarded |
| 02:16.16 | thul | I agree |
| 02:16.17 | mort | you can easily hit 1k healing, just wear some cloth |
| 02:16.20 | RaydenUni | but we need the replacement |
| 02:16.31 | Codayus | Less DPS means you need more healing, if you lack healers, recruit healers. |
| 02:16.35 | Antiarc | Windfury+Unleahsed Rage is the single largest melee group DPS buff you can five them |
| 02:16.39 | Antiarc | Plus heroism. |
| 02:16.41 | thul | yeah.. I say so |
| 02:16.54 | mort | my druid is at 1881 healing with kara/heroic gear |
| 02:17.14 | Codayus | My guild has recruited 3 enh shamans recently. One is on hiatus, one respecced healing, the other is actually a reroll of a long time member, and needs gear badly. Bleh. |
| 02:17.32 | Codayus | Actually getting an enh shaman into a raid appears beyond us. |
| 02:17.45 | RaydenUni | this druid just hit 70 and is attuned but obviously hasn't had time to gear up much |
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| 02:17.52 | RaydenUni | but we'll be missing a couple people |
| 02:18.12 | thul | Codayus: invite me :-P |
| 02:18.23 | thul | problem solved :-D |
| 02:18.48 | Codayus | thul: Continent, faction, server type, timezone/ |
| 02:18.50 | Codayus | ? |
| 02:19.15 | thul | skandinavia, horde, pvp, cet |
| 02:19.16 | thul | :-P |
| 02:19.21 | Codayus | US Allaince PVE PST. |
| 02:19.23 | Codayus | Fail. |
| 02:19.27 | thul | US?! |
| 02:19.31 | thul | CHILD MURDERERS |
| 02:19.31 | thul | :-P |
| 02:19.58 | Codayus | Duh. |
| 02:20.03 | Codayus | That's what we use enh shamans for. |
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| 02:20.22 | thul | haha |
| 02:20.31 | mort_ | if he is specced 0/0/61 tell him to reroll ;) |
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| 02:23.57 | Fin | Seerah: ah, yeah, sorry - I just saw two or three things in a row with +spell penetration and jumped the gun |
| 02:24.13 | Seerah | Fin: no biggie :) lol |
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| 02:28.56 | aestil | woot, HDDVD is failed now. |
| 02:29.08 | aestil | we have 1 HDM format going forward [hopefully] |
| 02:31.10 | ulic | w00t, laser disc's won! |
| 02:31.58 | Hjalte | aestil: Failed? |
| 02:33.22 | aestil | with warner going BD exclusive, universal and paramount are very lonely. HDDVD promo group canceled their 2 hour CES conference following warners announcement, and no new HDDVD players have been announced yet. |
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| 02:34.32 | Hjalte | aestil: BD = Bluray? |
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| 02:36.03 | Megalon | or all warner employee's are going to wear cool sunglases and have fun :p |
| 02:39.32 | bigzero | shredding attacks is tagged red by Scrub? hmmm not very useful when tanking |
| 02:39.49 | bigzero | oo, nvm |
| 02:39.56 | bigzero | missed the lacerate part |
| 02:40.03 | bigzero | forgot that got added recently |
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| 02:46.50 | Pkekyo| | christ...crysis needs 1GB of ram to show it's credits |
| 02:50.20 | Fin | oh god I love beer |
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| 02:52.38 | vithos | GridStatusAFK isn't very reliable :/ |
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| 02:59.24 | aestil | Hjalte: yes BD = bluray |
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| 03:42.15 | mjc | kergoth: ping0r |
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| 03:47.47 | xon | hi |
| 03:47.47 | xon | anybody here familiar with waterfall? |
| 03:48.26 | xon | I'm trying to set up an addon to work with it, and was wondering if it is possible to use an ace options table and get a drop-down |
| 03:50.28 | Fin | well |
| 03:50.30 | Fin | the answer is yes |
| 03:50.42 | Fin | but I can't tell you much more than that, I can't remember dick about the specifics |
| 03:51.04 | xon | well at least now I know I'm not trying to do the impossible :) |
| 03:51.24 | Ellipsis | for a dropdown menu you want dewdrop, not waterfall |
| 03:51.39 | Fin | the whole thing works on AceOptions tables |
| 03:51.58 | Fin | oh, hey, I thought you meant, get a drop-down inside a Waterfall configuration window somewhere |
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| 03:52.14 | xon | yes Fin, that's what I meant |
| 03:52.17 | Fin | oh, good |
| 03:52.19 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 03:52.39 | xon | I've got a bunch of settings with a limited set of possibilities |
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| 03:52.48 | xon | so I was going to just have them in drop-downs |
| 03:53.05 | Fin | Waterfall sounds like it could be a good choice |
| 03:53.22 | Fin | it's not always, for everything, of course, but it is for a bunch of things |
| 03:53.28 | xon | and I really want to use something like Waterfall because I'm lazy and don't want to figure out how to make my own gui |
| 03:53.41 | Fin | hey that's what libraries are for |
| 03:53.48 | xon | exactly :) |
| 03:54.10 | xon | another question about possibilities then: can Waterfall display a table of values? |
| 03:54.32 | xon | say I want to have 15 things set through drop-downs, but reuse the drop-downs to just add the settings to a list, and then have the table display that list |
| 03:55.39 | xon | or am I venturing into the land of write-it-yourself? |
| 03:55.42 | Fin | I don't quite get it, I'm afriad |
| 03:55.45 | Fin | -ia+ai |
| 03:55.59 | Fin | reuse the drop-downs to just add the settings to a list..? |
| 03:56.05 | Fin | how are the dropdowns being reused |
| 03:56.06 | Ellipsis | sounds a bit complicated |
| 03:56.13 | xon | a bit :) |
| 03:56.15 | xon | alright |
| 03:56.30 | xon | my addon's goal is to make raid assignments |
| 03:56.33 | xon | one example is marks |
| 03:56.48 | Fin | there are a *lot* of raid targetting addons |
| 03:56.53 | Fin | (incidentally) |
| 03:56.56 | xon | for instance: char1 banish square, char2 sheep circle, etc |
| 03:57.06 | xon | yeah, well, that's just a start of what I'm going to do :) |
| 03:57.21 | Fin | sure, go on |
| 03:57.23 | xon | and I've kinda been commissioned by my guild leader to make this thing sort of specific to us |
| 03:57.55 | xon | so what I'd like to do is have a drop-down with a list of characters in it, a second drop down with the abilities they can perform, and a third drop-down with marks |
| 03:58.04 | Fin | I just thought I'd mention it, because I was looking for a something else the other day and I ended up finding about 5 million (seriously, I counted) raid targetting addons |
| 03:58.26 | Fin | OK... |
| 03:58.27 | xon | oh I understand, and I'm glad for people to point that out because I tend to overlook things :) |
| 03:58.56 | xon | so, the ideal thing would be for you to add those sets of assignments to a list, and be able to see that list |
| 03:59.16 | Fin | that doesn't sound too difficult |
| 03:59.24 | xon | but can it be done in waterfall? |
| 03:59.39 | Fin | yeah, sure, but, that's not really reusing anything that I can tell? |
| 03:59.43 | Fin | s/tell/see/ |
| 04:00.17 | xon | well, you'd set char1 banish square, then add it to the list, then change it to char2 sheep circle, add it to the list, etc |
| 04:00.29 | xon | that's what I meant by reuse |
| 04:01.14 | Fin | OK I don't quite agree that's reusing anything, but, it doesn't matter - that should be quite possible, yes |
| 04:01.14 | xon | kind of hard to explain without pics, actually |
| 04:01.28 | xon | just so it's possible :) |
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| 04:01.44 | Fin | I'm not sure if the list would be part of Waterfall, though? |
| 04:02.14 | xon | if not I'll end up having to set out on my own... we want to see the list as we are building it |
| 04:02.21 | Antiarc | So I'm watching this video of a flash mob Ron Paul rally, and one guy has a "Don't Tax Me Bro" sign |
| 04:02.26 | Antiarc | Which is pretty loltastic |
| 04:02.30 | xon | brb 2 sec |
| 04:02.35 | xon | lol @ antiarc |
| 04:03.01 | Fin | oh, sure, but couldn't you just have a frame that shows the list somewhere? it could easily be updated whenever a change occurs to the config (although it might be possible in waterfall anyway, I'm not sure) |
| 04:03.24 | Fin | who's Ron Paul? |
| 04:03.40 | Fin | some sort of financial criminal? |
| 04:03.49 | Ellipsis | presidential candidate |
| 04:03.58 | Fin | ahead lolfactor 5! |
| 04:04.55 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: is it on youtube or something? |
| 04:04.58 | xon | back, sorry about that |
| 04:05.02 | Antiarc | http://blip.tv/file/582985 |
| 04:05.24 | Ellipsis | neat ^-^ |
| 04:06.43 | xon | so assuming waterfall doesn't end up working out, do you know what control it is that they use for the nifty tree on the left side of the config window? can't seem to figure that one out |
| 04:07.00 | xon | (told ya I didn't know much about frames :P) |
| 04:08.50 | mjc | waterfall should work for you |
| 04:09.21 | xon | who, me? I'm not a windows programmer! *hides VB and C# books* |
| 04:09.36 | Fin | "control" indeed |
| 04:09.54 | Fin | I can't answer that question, sorry |
| 04:09.55 | xon | hehe |
| 04:10.17 | Fin | never looked at the Waterfall code |
| 04:10.23 | mjc | just read waterfall's lua, it's pretty simple |
| 04:10.40 | Antiarc | I think it's just a custom widget |
| 04:10.45 | Antiarc | Though I may be wrong |
| 04:11.00 | xon | anything to do with lua is not simple... |
| 04:11.06 | Antiarc | what? |
| 04:11.17 | Antiarc | Lua's very simple compared to most languages :P |
| 04:11.42 | NeoTron | ~seen Gagorian |
| 04:11.44 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5d 1h 6m 29s, last said: '"over 9000?"'. |
| 04:11.46 | xon | well maybe I'm making it harder than it has to be, but the syntax and ideas of the language are extremely difficult for me to pick up on... |
| 04:11.51 | Ellipsis | haha, epic seen |
| 04:12.12 | Fin | eh? |
| 04:12.44 | xon | always been more of a DB kinda guy anyway... |
| 04:13.24 | Ellipsis | last said: '"over 9000?"'. |
| 04:13.48 | Fin | I don't get the epicosity of that question |
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| 04:13.53 | Fin | sorry |
| 04:13.58 | Fin | I really am sorry |
| 04:14.17 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 04:14.34 | Fin | say I fail or something |
| 04:14.57 | Fin | I think that helps |
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| 04:15.18 | Ellipsis | ~fail Fin |
| 04:15.18 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 04:15.22 | Ellipsis | you're right, thta does feel a bit better |
| 04:18.27 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57991 10AutoProfitX/ (6 files): |
| 04:18.27 | CIA-8 | AutoProfitX: |
| 04:18.27 | CIA-8 | - selling unusable items should now work with different locales |
| 04:18.28 | CIA-8 | - rewrote detection of unusable items. Should be much safer now and less prone to false-detections due to blizzard api changes. |
| 04:18.41 | Fin | excellent |
| 04:19.22 | Fin | warlocks are just so ridiculously overpowered it's not funny anymore |
| 04:19.28 | Mudkipz | QQ |
| 04:19.41 | Fin | seriously |
| 04:19.42 | Fin | they are |
| 04:19.56 | mjc | qq in your face |
| 04:19.59 | Fin | why the fuck do all their abilities keep getting buffed |
| 04:19.59 | bigzero | though, i can't remember when they were not |
| 04:20.26 | xon | they killed my seed of corruption though! |
| 04:20.27 | bigzero | maybe before they got felguard and the black book.. i think that's when it all started |
| 04:20.35 | Fin | like, Consume Shadows on the Voidwalker, it heals him - keep ranking up, and suddenly it's giving him +220 attack power as well |
| 04:20.45 | xon | I used to be able to pull things from rooms away to wipe the group with... now I've got to follow line of sight |
| 04:21.01 | Fin | same with Suffering, group taunt - keep ranking up, suddenly it's reducing enemies' chance to hit by 11% |
| 04:21.04 | Fin | wtf? |
| 04:21.21 | Fin | send a pet in, xon |
| 04:21.26 | Fin | that's what they're for |
| 04:21.30 | xon | :D |
| 04:21.33 | Fin | then sacrifice it before it's dead, and get a buff! |
| 04:21.41 | bigzero | but you can't click-target through walls anymore.. |
| 04:21.46 | bigzero | so i noticed anyway |
| 04:21.46 | xon | did manage to use my succy once to pull most all of scholo at once |
| 04:21.54 | Fin | and, why, why do they need three fears? |
| 04:22.01 | Fin | including one that heals them? |
| 04:22.12 | xon | because we're squishy? |
| 04:22.23 | Fin | fuck no they're not |
| 04:22.25 | bigzero | hmmm, noone thinks about mages... |
| 04:22.35 | bigzero | i feel squishy too |
| 04:22.37 | Fin | so, here's my theory: |
| 04:22.42 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 04:22.45 | Ellipsis | warlocks aren't overpowered |
| 04:22.57 | bigzero | ./who Ellipsis |
| 04:22.57 | xon | oh we're very squishy if you can ever get to us |
| 04:23.04 | Fin | someone on the dev team has a thing about warlocks, it's his pet class, in dungeons and dragons and whatever, and locks were one of the first classes to get made |
| 04:23.42 | Fin | I reckon it's all just because some senior dev fancies a bit of succubus arse in his dream world |
| 04:23.50 | bigzero | lol |
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| 04:24.36 | Fin | Ellipsis: armory link me up |
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| 04:25.20 | Ellipsis | !c us cenarius Ellipsis |
| 04:25.23 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuuupd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q7kuc ][ Updated: Sun Jan 6 23:31:02 2008 EST ]] |
| 04:25.27 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 04:25.36 | Ellipsis | Blizz hates me :( |
| 04:25.47 | Hjalte | Is there some sort of crit cap for destru warlocks, where it doesnt pay to get more crit? |
| 04:26.00 | Fin | while I do love and respect ThraeBot, it's just slightly too complicated and unintuitive to remember the commands |
| 04:26.24 | Hjalte | Fin: Maybe you're too stupid :P |
| 04:26.34 | Ellipsis | well, the link there will work whenever armory stops being dumb at least |
| 04:26.40 | Ellipsis | anything in particular you wanted to know, Fin? |
| 04:26.41 | Fin | Hjalte: your MUM |
| 04:26.44 | Fin | also, fuck you |
| 04:27.47 | Fin | hmm, wonder why Google hasn't cached it |
| 04:27.52 | Fin | there's no robots.txt |
| 04:28.19 | bigzero | !c us Spirestone Tucker |
| 04:28.22 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Tucker, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/47/14). 8184 HP; 4865 Mana; 149 mana regen; 910 AP; 137.700 Melee DPS; 12.99% melee crit; 75 melee hit; 23.57% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1199 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hxew2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ca54y ][ Updated: Sun Jan 6 23:34:01 2008 EST ]] |
| 04:29.46 | bigzero | tinyurl.com hmmm, interesting. I wonder how i've never heard of it before |
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| 04:30.08 | Gngsk | you live in an internetless cardboard box |
| 04:30.23 | bigzero | probably |
| 04:31.26 | Fin | but the servers we were using couldn't handle it after some japanese forums found out about it and started using it to redirect images in the URLs for their avatars (so they could see the stats) |
| 04:31.31 | Fin | so it died |
| 04:31.49 | Fin | </exciting factfile update!> |
| 04:31.57 | smoke_ | !c us mannoroth zakkhur |
| 04:31.59 | ThraeBot | smoke_: Zakkhur, Level 70 Undead Mage: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypw5me ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sb9sl ][ Updated: Sun Jan 6 23:37:39 2008 EST ]] |
| 04:32.11 | bigzero | though, how can they allow the links to never expire? |
| 04:33.52 | Fin | next episode: find out - wow! - how many beer bottles are on my desk! and the second installment of sunset warlock! |
| 04:33.58 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 04:34.05 | Fin | ya |
| 04:34.23 | Fin | (test on monday, remember SHOW YOUR WORKING) |
| 04:34.48 | bigzero | again |
| 04:35.30 | bigzero | I wonder if there is a copy of that available online somewhere...and if installed would I be able to figure out how to even enter world.. |
| 04:36.58 | Fin | try wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 04:37.15 | Fin | what do you need, some strings or something? |
| 04:38.42 | bigzero | just to see if APX really does work after the changes I made |
| 04:39.14 | Fin | wait, are you Chinese? |
| 04:39.52 | bigzero | no, that's why i need the client |
| 04:40.00 | bigzero | otherwise i would have it |
| 04:40.28 | Fin | well, just because you have something working locally, it doesn't mean you don't need to get it tested elsewhere |
| 04:40.32 | Fin | anyway |
| 04:40.37 | bigzero | but that site looks pretty nice, Fin. I like how they have the xml and lua files for each version. no chinese ersion of the client though |
| 04:40.58 | bigzero | Fin, that's my point..i need to test it with a different locale |
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| 04:41.02 | Fin | nobody else seems to care about testing on Chinese clients, how comes you do? if I can ask |
| 04:41.19 | Fin | yeah, sorry, I only suggested it because I assumed you wanted some strings from there or summat |
| 04:41.34 | bigzero | those are the only two locale files I have for this addon |
| 04:41.43 | Fin | ah |
| 04:42.11 | Fin | were the contributed by wowcn.com, or, wowmods.cn or something like that? |
| 04:42.16 | bigzero | but actually....until Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 gets updated for the other locales, my mod won't work anyway. so nvm |
| 04:42.31 | Fin | those bastards always put their website URL somewhere in the source |
| 04:42.37 | Fin | horrible advertising |
| 04:44.18 | bigzero | hmmm, i don't think so |
| 04:46.43 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57992 10AutoProfitX/ (4 files): |
| 04:46.43 | CIA-8 | AutoProfitX: |
| 04:46.44 | CIA-8 | - moved locales to their own directory |
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| 04:47.29 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57993 10AutoProfitX/locales/ (5 files): |
| 04:47.29 | CIA-8 | AutoProfitX: |
| 04:47.29 | CIA-8 | - and I fail...here are the locales |
| 04:53.11 | mjc | kergoth: ping^2? |
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| 05:02.02 | xon | ok, gotta run. thanks for the help! |
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| 05:05.00 | kergoth | mjc: pong |
| 05:05.17 | mjc | tried to clone your addon repo and submodules; urls are borked |
| 05:05.30 | mjc | looks like a bad RewriteRule for git.kergoth.com |
| 05:05.36 | kergoth | ah, yeah, said screw git-submodule, its just not up to par |
| 05:05.49 | kergoth | i still have git repositories on git.kergoth.com, just not messing with the addons there |
| 05:05.55 | mjc | yeah I see them |
| 05:06.09 | mjc | how are you managing yours atm |
| 05:06.11 | ckknight | kergoth: you check out gitosis? |
| 05:06.13 | ckknight | it's pretty snazzy |
| 05:06.19 | mjc | I'm using gitosis |
| 05:06.26 | kergoth | ckknight: yeah looked pretty slick, havent had time to set it up though |
| 05:06.31 | mjc | takes two minutes |
| 05:06.39 | ckknight | it's nice |
| 05:07.08 | kergoth | mjc: i said screw it and went with just running an updater app, not source controlled at all, though some of the addons are svn or git checkouts. its not what i'd prefer, but it gets the job done and is a lot less annoying than git-submodule was, even modified |
| 05:07.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:07.22 | kergoth | someone needs to just put some good quality time into coding up a better implementation of hte submodule support imo |
| 05:07.23 | mjc | which updater at least |
| 05:07.25 | kergoth | tempting, really |
| 05:07.35 | kergoth | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ works pretty well |
| 05:07.40 | kergoth | not specific to any certain site |
| 05:07.53 | kergoth | handles wowi, curse, wowace, auctioneer, gatherer, the basics |
| 05:07.57 | ckknight | kergoth: I've been using giston for svn submodules |
| 05:08.03 | kergoth | crappy interface, but what the heck |
| 05:08.22 | kergoth | someday i'll learn windows coding, c# and .NET look pretty nifty |
| 05:08.47 | ckknight | you can do C# stuff with Mono |
| 05:08.53 | ckknight | I've done it |
| 05:10.28 | Hjalte | ckknight: In Pitbull, I've reversed the target unit frame, so that the health information is left and the name is right. Usually the health gets priority, being on the left, but now that they are reversed, the name gets priority. Can I change that somehow? I would like to give the health information higher priority. |
| 05:10.35 | MentalPower | FYI http://pastey.net is down, we're working on it |
| 05:10.46 | ckknight | priority? |
| 05:11.05 | Hjalte | ckknight: When the health information and the name is too long for the unit frame, one has to overlap the other. |
| 05:11.24 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:11.31 | ckknight | that's a blizzardism |
| 05:11.48 | ckknight | I think |
| 05:12.16 | Hjalte | So I will have to have the most important, the information that should not be hidden, on the right? |
| 05:12.53 | Ellipsis | or make your frame bigger/text smaller so they don't overlap? |
| 05:13.33 | Antiarc | Ugh |
| 05:13.35 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Yeah, well, that's not really possible with the UI I am looking to have :) |
| 05:13.36 | Antiarc | Someone make Archi die |
| 05:13.39 | Antiarc | 2.5 hours on him tonight |
| 05:13.47 | Antiarc | We killed him in December then went on break for the holidays |
| 05:16.17 | mjc | wuu needs an icon |
| 05:25.35 | bigzero | does MobHealth3 support default unit frames? |
| 05:25.55 | bigzero | i can't seem to get it to show the hp for mobs... |
| 05:27.24 | bigzero | and looking at the code i don't see where it would be displaying the health value on the unit frame, but perhaps i'm just missing it |
| 05:28.43 | Arrowmaster | you need the MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames or whatever addon to do that |
| 05:29.28 | bigzero | ah, k |
| 05:29.48 | bigzero | thanks |
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| 05:37.01 | MentalPower | http://pastey.net is back |
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| 05:41.47 | sylvanaar | i swear |
| 05:41.59 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar3 * r57994 10Prat/: Prat: Reshuffle the deck by creating 2 more Prat_* addons. |
| 05:41.59 | sylvanaar | if this ends up in the trunk im going to go nuts |
| 05:42.39 | Arrowmaster | whys that? |
| 05:44.08 | Aens|Superiority | does anyone know how long you remain logged in on the US wow forums? |
| 05:44.19 | Aens|Superiority | and if that timer is refreshed every post |
| 05:44.21 | Arrowmaster | not long enough |
| 05:44.55 | Arrowmaster | whenever i rarely post, it always gets (almost) lost from geting logged out |
| 05:45.12 | Arrowmaster | ive learned to keep a 2nd tab open with the forums for when that happens |
| 05:45.28 | Arrowmaster | i just log back in on the 2nd tab then hit refresh in the first |
| 05:46.12 | Fin | it's utilitastic! |
| 05:46.20 | Ellipsis | what on earth for? |
| 05:46.32 | Fin | when posting in forums that log you out after a while |
| 05:46.39 | Ellipsis | hm, tricky |
| 05:46.43 | Arrowmaster | i have that feature in seamonkey |
| 05:46.47 | Fin | btw, Arrowmaster, you can just post, and it'll prompt for a login |
| 05:46.50 | Fin | I use it all the time |
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| 05:47.02 | Arrowmaster | i do, i tend to use preview a lot |
| 05:47.09 | Fin | especially when I go to a page, decide I want to keep reading it, but want to go back to the previous page to click on a previous link |
| 05:47.14 | Codayus | In my experience, the process is like this: |
| 05:47.16 | Fin | just duplicate the page and click back in one of them |
| 05:47.36 | Codayus | 1) Try to post. 2) Be asked for login information. 3) Login. 4) Go to step 1. |
| 05:47.50 | Fin | yeah, that's what I do too |
| 05:47.59 | aestil | why is it that the quartz swing timer is automatically the same size as the player cast bar, even when you make the swing timer 'free' and then you get no option to change the size. |
| 05:48.04 | Fin | I was just evangelising Opera, really |
| 05:48.30 | Codayus | You will note that nowhere in there do you see: 5) Sucesfully post. |
| 05:48.36 | Codayus | This is because the Bliz forums fail. |
| 05:48.42 | Fin | wait, I'm not meant to say that so that you're taken in by my casual mentions of its awesome features! |
| 05:49.20 | Ellipsis | probably IE7 too, or maybe IE8 |
| 05:49.30 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Mmm, I don't think Firefox does. |
| 05:49.41 | Ellipsis | it's there in mine o.O |
| 05:49.50 | Arrowmaster | probably does with one of the tab plugins |
| 05:49.51 | Ellipsis | it's the first option when you right click a tab |
| 05:49.56 | Ellipsis | I use no tab plugins |
| 05:50.20 | Arrowmaster | i use seamonkey with multizilla extension, ive got more tab features than you can think of |
| 05:50.22 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Yeah...no. |
| 05:50.30 | Codayus | Firefox version? |
| 05:50.35 | Ellipsis | hm, maybe one of my other plugins does it then |
| 05:50.35 | Fin | I can think of a lot of tab features |
| 05:51.11 | Fin | herbalists should be able to see treants walking on the minimap |
| 05:51.16 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:51.38 | Arrowmaster | post it on the suggestion forums |
| 05:52.11 | Codayus | In fact, I note there's a firefox extension to add the feature... |
| 05:53.47 | bigzero | Ellipsis, you use TabMixPlus? |
| 05:53.55 | bigzero | that's what i use. it adds it in |
| 05:53.57 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 05:54.14 | Codayus | bigzero: It does? Because *I* use TabMixPlus, and I don't have that. |
| 05:54.19 | Codayus | Now I'm getting *more* confused. |
| 05:54.25 | bigzero | well, you can add it in yourself |
| 05:54.34 | bigzero | might not be there by default |
| 05:55.10 | Codayus | Hm, load on new tabs... Defaults to blank page. One option is...duplicate page. Hm |
| 05:55.20 | bigzero | under Menu/Tab Context Menu in options |
| 05:55.47 | bigzero | pretty useful, i use it quite a bit |
| 05:55.57 | Codayus | Cool, that's nifty. |
| 05:56.21 | bigzero | but TabMixPlus seems a little bit of a memory hog...looking for an alternative. any suggestions? |
| 05:56.29 | Ellipsis | I use Tab Control, maybe that's it... |
| 05:56.32 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 05:56.53 | Codayus | bigzero: 'fraid not. I'm just getting used to my browser taking up half a gig of ram. |
| 05:56.58 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar3 * r57995 10Prat/ (19 files in 11 dirs): Prat: Move almost all source back into the main prat directories. Restructure LoD addons. |
| 05:57.10 | Codayus | To be fair, I tend to have more tabs open than I really need. >.> |
| 05:57.19 | Ellipsis | half a gig? lucky you |
| 05:57.31 | Arrowmaster | this is one of the reasons i still use seamonkey and multizilla, theres too many shitty tab extensions for firefox |
| 05:58.20 | Codayus | *shrug* I like TabMixPlus. :-) |
| 05:59.05 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r57996 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/GridStatusIncomingHeals.lua: |
| 05:59.05 | CIA-8 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: |
| 05:59.05 | CIA-8 | - koKR Update |
| 05:59.49 | bigzero | lol, yeah, tabs are evil in the sense that they make me never bother to close websites...I usually have several rows of tabs open on firefox |
| 06:00.12 | Kivin | bigzero: I always CTRL-T a new window instead of reusing tabs :P |
| 06:00.29 | bigzero | plus with TabMixPlus they stay even when i restart firefox |
| 06:00.35 | Codayus | Does all I need which is...um. Make tabs work the way I want (vague, I know), lets me reopen closed tabs, remembers the tabs I had open if I close the browser. And um...yeah, that's about it. |
| 06:01.22 | bigzero | Kivin, kinda ruins the point of having tabbed browsing...and that would clutter my task bar, which is full of explorer windows, wow, mirc, other stuff |
| 06:02.21 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar3 * r57997 10Prat/ (Prat_Event_Modules/includes.xml modules.xml): Prat: Fixed some xml references |
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| 06:03.31 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31186 for 45g. I win |
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| 06:12.40 | bigzero | !c us spirestone butterpants |
| 06:12.44 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Butterpants, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bzpbw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dutz6 ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 01:18:23 2008 EST ]] |
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| 06:27.26 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar3 * r57998 10Prat/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Prat: Make things continue to work when prat is not unpacked. |
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| 06:40.38 | mjc | any new addons you all recommend |
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| 06:46.10 | RaydenUni | yay |
| 06:46.20 | RaydenUni | woke up at 1am so i could be the 11th person for KZ and give up my spot |
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| 06:49.56 | Fin | wahey |
| 06:50.07 | Fin | first alt to 70 |
| 06:50.59 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 06:51.11 | potemkin | does the toc |
| 06:51.14 | potemkin | load all the luaf iles |
| 06:51.16 | potemkin | then run the files |
| 06:51.20 | potemkin | or does it run them in order |
| 06:51.24 | Fin | danke |
| 06:51.48 | Mudkipz | O_o |
| 06:52.51 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57999 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.de.lua: |
| 06:52.51 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:52.51 | CIA-8 | - undo commit from gamefaq. This was NOT a typo. Its intended. |
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| 06:57.57 | bigzero | potemkin, runs them as it loads them |
| 06:57.58 | Ellipsis | I want a fridge with a secret portal that can take me places |
| 06:58.08 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't use it to go to bed though |
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| 07:07.52 | ckknight | Ellipsis: yea, Narnia's cool |
| 07:10.19 | ckknight | today's xkcd is great. |
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| 07:12.19 | Ellipsis | oh god |
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| 07:15.14 | mjc | WUU is crashy on installing new ace addons |
| 07:15.14 | Mudkipz | Ron Paul! |
| 07:16.24 | Ellipsis | needs less fanboi |
| 07:16.27 | Ellipsis | and moar Mudkipz |
| 07:16.27 | ckknight | yes, I'm also fond of Ron Paul |
| 07:16.39 | ckknight | among others, though |
| 07:16.48 | ckknight | but I don't want to start a political debate here |
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| 07:16.54 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 07:16.59 | Mudkipz | its rainy |
| 07:17.01 | Mudkipz | and cold |
| 07:17.01 | durcyn | did you vote for badnarik in 2004, ckk |
| 07:17.04 | Mudkipz | what about you guys? |
| 07:19.39 | ckknight | durcyn: I would've, had I not been 16 |
| 07:19.40 | Guillotine | ck: haha, you're right, it is a pretty good xkcd |
| 07:19.42 | ckknight | or Canadian |
| 07:19.50 | Guillotine | though I think my favorite was still little bobby tables |
| 07:20.07 | ckknight | now I'm 20 and my blood is as rich a red as any American's |
| 07:20.10 | durcyn | ckknight: in time you can overcome both of those handicaps. |
| 07:20.18 | ckknight | I did. |
| 07:20.36 | ckknight | Guillotine: bobby tables? |
| 07:20.53 | Guillotine | ck: http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 07:21.04 | durcyn | the parents who named their kid after an sql injection? |
| 07:21.15 | Guillotine | indeed :) |
| 07:21.21 | durcyn | good stuff |
| 07:21.22 | ckknight | ah, right |
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| 07:52.00 | wereHamster | how about modifying the post-commit hook that generates the tarballs to generate special files when the commit message contains 'AddOnName: Release X.Y.Z' or 'Release: X.Y.Z' ? |
| 07:52.28 | Ellipsis | tags make more sense o.O |
| 07:53.59 | ckknight | svn's tag system is shitty |
| 07:54.00 | ckknight | imho |
| 07:54.02 | ckknight | <3 git |
| 07:54.10 | wereHamster | me too :) |
| 07:54.11 | Ellipsis | we know |
| 07:54.12 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 07:54.25 | wereHamster | git-svn ftw :P |
| 07:55.16 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:56.26 | ckknight | I like pure git, though |
| 07:57.27 | wereHamster | another question, does WAU/WUU fetch the 'trunk' versions? I got a complaint from someone not very familiar with svn that my addon doesn't work, and I'm wondering why/how he got that version. |
| 07:57.41 | Ellipsis | they use the zips from files.* |
| 07:57.42 | Ellipsis | so yeah |
| 07:58.03 | wereHamster | is there a way to disable the generation of zips for my addons? |
| 07:58.08 | ckknight | no |
| 07:58.15 | Ellipsis | don't put them in trunk? |
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| 07:58.34 | wereHamster | trunk is for development, tags is for releases.. |
| 07:59.06 | Ellipsis | not here! :D |
| 07:59.28 | Ellipsis | unless you want angry users |
| 07:59.29 | wereHamster | I find it stupid to have to put addons into 'branches' if it's not a real branch |
| 07:59.41 | Ellipsis | because they think that wowace is an addon distribution website |
| 08:00.41 | wereHamster | why not set up 'stable' and 'devel' subdirs instead? |
| 08:01.14 | Arrowmaster | too much work for an svn thats getting close to 60000 commits |
| 08:01.16 | Ellipsis | there's some big restructuring of the svn in the works |
| 08:02.51 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster, kde has _way_ more commits, ssh can handle that |
| 08:03.19 | wereHamster | s/ssh/svn/ |
| 08:04.03 | wereHamster | Ellipsis, interesting, where can I fing more info about it? |
| 08:04.09 | ckknight | kde should really split up their repo and switch to git |
| 08:04.28 | ckknight | or something like it |
| 08:05.24 | Ellipsis | wereHamster: dunno, ask Kaelten or poke around on the forums some |
| 08:05.44 | Ellipsis | haven't heard any real details other than that something is planned |
| 08:05.48 | Arrowmaster | i dont think you can find any specific details |
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| 08:21.10 | Xinhuan | half of me thinks that there isn't any plan at all |
| 08:21.19 | Ellipsis | jesus Xinhuan do you ever sleep? |
| 08:21.32 | Xinhuan | i did, i just woke up |
| 08:21.35 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 08:21.36 | Xinhuan | i take multiple 3 hour naps |
| 08:21.40 | Ellipsis | also, I freaking hate you |
| 08:21.48 | Ellipsis | wintersaber farm is so painful |
| 08:21.57 | Xinhuan | its 250 rep per turnin. |
| 08:22.02 | Ellipsis | 275 |
| 08:22.04 | Xinhuan | when i did it, it was 50 rep per turnin. |
| 08:22.07 | Xinhuan | (or 55) |
| 08:22.18 | Ellipsis | doesn't change teh fact that every 10 mobs I kill I have to run all the way across the freaking zone |
| 08:22.21 | Ellipsis | so lame |
| 08:22.22 | Xinhuan | so stfu up about the speed |
| 08:22.42 | Xinhuan | also when i did it, other ppl told me to stfu, because it was 25 rep per turnin |
| 08:22.43 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r58000 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 08:22.43 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:22.43 | CIA-8 | - Invertory: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:22.59 | cladhaire | so much stfu |
| 08:23.02 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 08:23.11 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, you know better than that, when have I *ever* stfu'd? |
| 08:23.27 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 08:23.45 | Xinhuan | you did, when everyone else went quiet :) |
| 08:23.53 | Ellipsis | no that's when I slept |
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| 08:24.05 | Ellipsis | I talk in my sleep, I just don't type (usually) |
| 08:24.14 | Xinhuan | i woke up because it just passed 12 mn server time |
| 08:24.17 | Xinhuan | now i need to go mulgore |
| 08:24.23 | vithos | .ap 1417 |
| 08:25.11 | cladhaire | the new addon loader makes me so happy |
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| 08:25.23 | Ellipsis | what's it do? |
| 08:25.30 | cladhaire | the same thing as the old one |
| 08:25.36 | Ellipsis | how is it new then? |
| 08:25.38 | cladhaire | without ace2 |
| 08:25.41 | Ellipsis | ah |
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| 08:25.48 | Xinhuan | is it released yet? |
| 08:25.53 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: its on googlecode |
| 08:26.00 | cladhaire | binary compatible with everything except non-enUS zone |
| 08:26.00 | smoke_ | anyone have experience using witchhunt? |
| 08:26.19 | cladhaire | it never should have had Ace to begin with.. such a stupidly simple addon |
| 08:26.21 | Xinhuan | got a link? |
| 08:26.34 | cladhaire | http://wow-addonloader.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AddonLoader/ |
| 08:26.42 | cladhaire | doesn't allow overrides yet |
| 08:26.44 | cladhaire | but most don't use that |
| 08:26.49 | cladhaire | and i hope to get a chance to work on that this week |
| 08:26.58 | smoke_ | i was looking at the code cuz i added a small little white list, and i want it to show the buff fades, i see where the line thats commented out taht registers the event function, i uncomment it, but still nothing happens, is this not implemented yet? |
| 08:27.05 | Ellipsis | I use them |
| 08:27.08 | smoke_ | i looked thru the forum thread too, didnt see it |
| 08:27.13 | Ellipsis | so WTB that implemented before I switch :( |
| 08:27.20 | Xinhuan | would you mind updating the version on wowace svn, or do i have to checkout from gcode, or create that override .svn folder for wau not to update it |
| 08:27.28 | cladhaire | Ellipsis: understood |
| 08:27.41 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: i suspect it'll be moved to the ace svn at some point |
| 08:27.53 | Xinhuan | suspect? |
| 08:27.59 | cladhaire | but not sure of the plans for it |
| 08:28.06 | cladhaire | yeah, I think. |
| 08:28.07 | cladhaire | not sure tho |
| 08:28.26 | Xinhuan | if you're the copyright holder, can't you control where its uploaded to? |
| 08:28.40 | wereHamster | cladhaire, I agree, the addon is so small, there never was any reason to use ace. I hate people who cry out loud if some addon isn't ace and they refuse to use it bacause of that.. |
| 08:28.41 | cladhaire | its not mine |
| 08:28.47 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 08:28.51 | cladhaire | [ammo] wrote most of it |
| 08:28.53 | cladhaire | along with joshborke |
| 08:28.57 | cladhaire | i just tricked them into doing it for me :P |
| 08:29.07 | Ellipsis | sneaky sneaky |
| 08:29.12 | Xinhuan | naughty naughty |
| 08:29.23 | cladhaire | we talked a bit about the design |
| 08:29.26 | cladhaire | at that point, it was mechanical |
| 08:29.40 | cladhaire | Ellipsis: what overrides do you have set, if you dont' mind my asking |
| 08:29.47 | cladhaire | since that parts mine, and I want to make sure its done well |
| 08:29.52 | Ellipsis | I override most things to load initially |
| 08:30.00 | Ellipsis | because my computer is slow and I can't afford lag spikes randomly |
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| 08:30.27 | cladhaire | but i assume you leave some other things not overriden |
| 08:30.33 | cladhaire | otherwise you could just uninstall AL :P |
| 08:30.41 | Ellipsis | only stuff I very rarely use |
| 08:30.45 | Ellipsis | like AH |
| 08:30.52 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 08:30.57 | cladhaire | makes sense |
| 08:31.08 | cladhaire | is it possible for you to screenshot the gui or interface it uses currently? |
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| 08:31.13 | cladhaire | so i have an idea what you expect? |
| 08:31.22 | Ellipsis | not in-game atm |
| 08:31.42 | cladhaire | ok |
| 08:31.43 | Xinhuan | is http://wow-addonloader.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AddonLoader/ the proper address to checkout from? |
| 08:32.16 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:32.18 | cladhaire | why do you ask? |
| 08:32.24 | Xinhuan | just confirming |
| 08:32.29 | cladhaire | okay! |
| 08:32.36 | cladhaire | let us know if you run into any issues with it, of course |
| 08:32.46 | Xinhuan | definitely |
| 08:33.01 | cladhaire | but its silly simple |
| 08:33.04 | cladhaire | which makes it easy to maintain |
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| 08:40.25 | Arrowmaster | ace2'd addonloader doesnt have a gui |
| 08:40.29 | Arrowmaster | its cli |
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| 08:41.56 | Ellipsis | yeah, I use niagara/rockconfig to set it up |
| 08:43.09 | cladhaire | ah ok |
| 08:43.27 | PinkElephant | hey could someone help me |
| 08:43.33 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 08:43.34 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 08:44.26 | wereHamster | we now have ace, ace2, ace3, rock and some custom frameworks, that kindof defeats the purpose of small footprint, if each addon uses a different framework, doesn't it? |
| 08:44.28 | PinkElephant | my wow keeps crashing at this one place in nagrand and my wow error says its because the decompression failed of the file worl/wmo/dungeon/md_diamondmt/diamondmountain_003.wmo |
| 08:44.48 | PinkElephant | how do i fix it |
| 08:44.50 | Arrowmaster | run repair.exe |
| 08:45.15 | PinkElephant | that takes for ever -.- |
| 08:45.23 | Arrowmaster | thats your only option |
| 08:45.29 | Arrowmaster | since your game files are fucked |
| 08:45.42 | Arrowmaster | or you could just reinstall |
| 08:45.44 | wereHamster | not the only option.. another would be to reinstall wow |
| 08:45.47 | Arrowmaster | and repatch |
| 08:46.07 | PinkElephant | i dont have any cd's to install... |
| 08:46.16 | Ellipsis | enjoy your repair.exe then |
| 08:46.18 | Arrowmaster | so use repair.exe |
| 08:46.25 | wereHamster | isn't it possible to d/l the whole client? |
| 08:46.28 | Arrowmaster | it can reinstall and repatch for you |
| 08:46.37 | Arrowmaster | yes but its faster to use repair.exe |
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| 08:49.44 | Lukian | why doesn't nQuestLog use the 'standard' postfixes to the quest number |
| 08:49.54 | Lukian | ie. 70G3 |
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| 08:51.42 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: if it's phooked too badly it'll tell you to just reinstall |
| 08:53.03 | Ellipsis | Lukian: what do you mean? how is it different from the "standard"? |
| 08:53.35 | Lukian | it doesn't use 2-5 yet |
| 08:53.56 | Lukian | and it's in lowercase (although I'm not quite sure what the others use) |
| 08:54.25 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 08:56.34 | PinkElephant | ok... i used repair.exe now i get a version mismatch when trying to start WoW |
| 08:56.39 | evl | 2.3.2 tomorrow? |
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| 08:57.02 | Elkano | maybe, maybe not |
| 08:57.37 | winkiller | Quel'Serrar, Serrar... |
| 08:57.45 | PinkElephant | DBFilesClient\ChrClasses.dbc has wrong number of columns (found 17, expected 18) |
| 08:58.08 | PinkElephant | my wow.exe is 2.0.0 so ther shouldnt be a version mismatc |
| 08:58.23 | Lukian | heh |
| 08:58.36 | Lukian | if it's 2.0 just reinstall it :p |
| 09:00.15 | PinkElephant | no cds... |
| 09:00.34 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: josh did nothing! |
| 09:00.38 | [Ammo] | no commit of his in there! |
| 09:00.41 | AKX | PinkElephant, you can just download it too. |
| 09:00.44 | [Ammo] | you both tricksed me |
| 09:01.12 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: he did the commit of the -2.0 directory we're not using |
| 09:01.13 | cladhaire | *grin* |
| 09:01.15 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:01.38 | [Ammo] | nonUS zone works if you have Babble-Zone-3.0 installed in some other addon |
| 09:01.41 | [Ammo] | or standalone |
| 09:01.49 | [Ammo] | I just cuoldn't be arsed copying it to the gcode repo :) |
| 09:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.12 | Kalroth | yay |
| 09:06.30 | NightHawkTheSane | (and wiped seconds later, but still!) |
| 09:08.24 | Kivin | Anyone else having issues with WAU 1.9 not connecting and timing out |
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| 10:14.45 | thul | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1135/ |
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| 10:19.39 | Civrock | Hmm, is OmniCC supposed to be compatible with X-Perl? |
| 10:21.14 | FinalX | wee, max lockpicking on my rogue...finally... had to start in redridge yesterday lol, now 330 (lvl 66) >.> |
| 10:21.23 | FinalX | no idea Civrock :P |
| 10:21.34 | thul | FinalX: 24 hours lp-ing? :-P |
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| 10:21.58 | FinalX | hehe |
| 10:21.59 | FinalX | nah |
| 10:22.04 | FinalX | it's quite easy actually |
| 10:22.24 | FinalX | tyr's hand was fun |
| 10:23.25 | thul | I gave up at 220 or something |
| 10:23.27 | thul | just too boring:P |
| 10:24.16 | SunTsu | Civrock: You're poking around in a wound.. ;) |
| 10:24.25 | SunTsu | er, sorry |
| 10:24.37 | SunTsu | s/Civrock/FinalX/ |
| 10:27.52 | SunTsu | FinalX: Reminds me of my 2 weeks of fishing. Originally stopped fishing around 200 skill points, maxed it out after seeing +30 stamina food |
| 10:28.12 | SunTsu | "Wanna go any heroic?" "Nah, I'm fishing" |
| 10:30.54 | FinalX | well, at 66 i was like "fuck it, i wanna be able to open my own boxes and chests and not having to rely on other rogues", kinda ashaming and all |
| 10:31.10 | FinalX | levelled it from what, 140 to 330 in uh, 3 hours? |
| 10:32.46 | Kivin | I make fun of a rogue friend every chance I get about his lock picking. He's been 70 a month or so and only just hit 350 LP in the last week |
| 10:32.48 | SunTsu | FinalX: I should do it, too, I have like 30 lock boxes from pocket picking lying around |
| 10:32.52 | thul | my entire bank is filled with boxes:P |
| 10:33.39 | FinalX | Getting lockpicking up isn't that hard tbh |
| 10:33.51 | FinalX | especially not at like 65+ |
| 10:34.43 | SunTsu | FinalX: Well, I should take the time, right now I am more focused on leveling, just having reached 50 with my rogue |
| 10:34.50 | FinalX | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lockpicking helped a lot |
| 10:35.52 | FinalX | went from redridge (murloc lake) at 144 to angor fortress in badlands to about 230, then to tanaris till 260, then to tyr's hand in epl till 300 |
| 10:35.57 | Birdemani | whats a good company in EU that hosts vent |
| 10:35.58 | FinalX | ..then feralfen village in zangarmash |
| 10:38.19 | Grum | mmm |
| 10:38.37 | Grum | *waves* |
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| 10:44.31 | FinalX | Grum! :P |
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| 10:45.11 | CIA-8 | 03samuelcup * r58001 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-8 | - fixed Rampage translation for zhCN |
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| 10:49.22 | Grum | no i'm not here! =D |
| 10:49.48 | Grum | nooes! |
| 10:49.52 | Industrial | ^____^ |
| 10:50.02 | Grum | that is a fig flat nose O.o |
| 10:50.24 | Industrial | its a mouth |
| 10:50.36 | Industrial | o_O |
| 10:50.48 | Grum | so it has no nose? |
| 10:51.05 | Industrial | It's imaginary |
| 10:51.09 | Industrial | (the nose) |
| 10:51.46 | Grum | i have to idle on that |
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| 11:11.01 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r58002 10KivinSpamGuard/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:11.01 | CIA-8 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 11:11.02 | CIA-8 | - Temporary removal of localization. |
| 11:11.02 | CIA-8 | - Optimized message bucketing; msgs no longer remain bucketed greater than 500ms. |
| 11:11.02 | CIA-8 | - Protection supported on all chat frames. |
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| 11:12.18 | Kivin | what $string$ do I place in files to get the svn revision on a commit |
| 11:12.56 | Hjalte | Kivin: KivinSpamGuard, does it do gold spam too? |
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| 11:13.07 | Kivin | Hjalte: that's specifically what it does |
| 11:13.38 | Kivin | Hjalte: It'll have group invite filters in a week or less. At the moment, it protects various chat mediums from wowhack and gold vendor spam |
| 11:13.49 | Hjalte | Kivin: How does it learn about new gold spam messages? |
| 11:13.53 | SunTsu | Kivin: More specifically, does it do or stop gold spam? |
| 11:14.10 | Pernicius | its painfull to blizz that we must use addons to prevent gold spam :( |
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| 11:14.48 | Kivin | SunTsu: it stops |
| 11:15.11 | Kivin | Hjalte: It buckets all incoming messages for a period no greater than 500ms and tests each for a number of hard coded patterns |
| 11:15.36 | Kivin | Hjalte: Each pattern has a 'score' associated with it. once the user's accumulated score reaches 30, he gets soft-blacklisted and messages get ignored |
| 11:16.09 | Hjalte | Kivin: Any way to add new words? |
| 11:16.40 | Kivin | Hjalte: Only by editing the Lua file at the moment. A gui is in the works to change which channels get protected and how the filters work. |
| 11:17.59 | thul | much like spamassassin |
| 11:17.59 | thul | :-P |
| 11:18.21 | Kivin | Never heard of that one |
| 11:18.33 | thul | hehe, it is a similar filter, just for mail :-) |
| 11:18.48 | thul | http://spamassassin.apache.org/ |
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| 11:19.11 | Kivin | oh, hehe |
| 11:19.30 | SunTsu | thul: That was exactly my thought while reading the description |
| 11:19.34 | thul | :-) |
| 11:20.03 | Kivin | rule(15, "%d+g(old)?.+free"), rule(10, "paypal(.+)rating") |
| 11:20.06 | Kivin | that's what the rules look like |
| 11:20.09 | si-m1 | heh, it's so bad when you have to fix those things on the userside |
| 11:20.30 | si-m1 | blizzard should have made some sort of spamfilter like that ages ago |
| 11:20.40 | SunTsu | Kivin: Are those rules in seperate files ore in the main file? |
| 11:20.47 | wereHamster | it would be censorship if blizz did it on the serverside ;) |
| 11:20.48 | Kivin | filter_rules.lua |
| 11:20.53 | si-m1 | haha |
| 11:21.35 | SunTsu | Kivin: so it could be easily extended to support different files, right? so Users could share rule swith each other |
| 11:21.41 | si-m1 | MSN is the king of server side filtering |
| 11:22.28 | Kivin | SunTsu: Sure. I might even consider adding an exceedingly simple API for extending it with separate addons |
| 11:22.43 | SunTsu | Kivin: That would be real great |
| 11:23.07 | Kivin | I'm prepared to do daily commits with new filters until it's effective enough to trap virtually all spam |
| 11:23.28 | Kivin | Though I've not seen a single gold spam message since I put it in force on friday or something |
| 11:23.53 | SunTsu | Kivin: Any way to see what was trapped so you can find out if you have false positives? |
| 11:25.03 | Kivin | SunTsu: Working on it. |
| 11:25.15 | Kivin | It's in the UI, which doesn't work yet. The Ui is mostly a skeleton |
| 11:25.43 | SunTsu | Kivin: Looks like this will be the first spam stopper I'll try |
| 11:25.44 | mitch0 | is it possible to securehook UsaAction so that my hook runs before the action? or the securehooks always run after the action? |
| 11:26.16 | Kivin | SunTsu: It'll take a few more days probably to work out the kinks. r50008 is a complete rewrite of a lot of code |
| 11:26.35 | Kivin | mitch0: securehooks are secure specifically because they don't interrupt the secure codepath |
| 11:26.53 | mitch0 | I don't want to interrupt the codepath ;) |
| 11:27.02 | Kivin | hooking before something is an interruption |
| 11:27.02 | mitch0 | just want to check cooldowns and display a message |
| 11:27.32 | mitch0 | alrighty, will do it after the action then, but then I'll need some weird heuristics to check for GCD after successful action-fire |
| 11:27.49 | Kivin | =/ |
| 11:28.23 | Kivin | The way a pre-hook works is the hook function passes the argument list down to the stock function. In that situation, it'd pass tained variables. |
| 11:28.38 | Kivin | s/tained/tainted |
| 11:28.44 | thul | Kivin: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Perceptron |
| 11:28.46 | thul | use that |
| 11:28.47 | thul | :-P |
| 11:29.14 | Kivin | thul: I'll read it on a clear head after some sleepies |
| 11:29.50 | mitch0 | btw, is such an addon already exist: whenever I try to activate an action that's on cooldown, it displays in large letters the action with the cooldown remaning somewhere in the middle of the screen (or thru some other addon like parrot or sct) |
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| 11:30.36 | thul | Kivin: hehe, you should read about spamassassin in general, I think you can trade a lot off their spam-experience! |
| 11:30.40 | thul | good job btw:) |
| 11:30.42 | thul | spam-addons is thewin. |
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| 11:31.07 | Kivin | :) I'll certainly look in to it. |
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| 11:31.38 | Kivin | Like all of my addons, SpamGuard was intended to be extremely minimal. However I keep getting surprised to find that a lot of people want it to do a lot of different things... so we'll see where it goes. |
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| 11:38.03 | Kivin | Can I safely assume that the gold spammers use localized macros on EU realms? |
| 11:38.36 | SunTsu | Kivin: No, you can't |
| 11:38.48 | SunTsu | Kivin: Most of the spams in utterly bad english |
| 11:39.08 | SunTsu | .o0( Just lime mine above *shudder* ) |
| 11:39.13 | Kivin | SunTsu: Okay. Figured there *might* be french and german spams :P |
| 11:39.14 | SunTsu | like, dammit |
| 11:40.03 | SunTsu | Kivin: There sometimes is german spam, which looks like english spam sent through babelfish |
| 11:40.14 | Kivin | SunTsu: rofl |
| 11:40.28 | Kivin | SunTsu: that's what I needed to know... means I need to think of a localized filter architecture |
| 11:40.54 | Kivin | would be silly to walk through german filters on an NA realm |
| 11:41.44 | SunTsu | Kivin: You just would need to implement different rule files and then have the user ingame select which of them they really want to load |
| 11:42.01 | many | i'd rather have a ignore which works when a user is NOT online |
| 11:42.01 | Kivin | SunTsu: perhaps |
| 11:42.17 | Kivin | many: The ignore list is there if you want to use it |
| 11:42.19 | thul | hmm |
| 11:42.26 | thul | i kind of want a debate about human worth |
| 11:42.29 | SunTsu | many: I'd like ignore based on account or guild |
| 11:42.45 | Kivin | many: I personally _HATE_ having to pick gold spammers off my ignore list to make room for new ones |
| 11:42.59 | thul | haha |
| 11:43.15 | Kivin | and every time my chat log scrolls because of 8 line macros, i cringe. it's incredibly satisfying seeing "[Alsdkfjsd] has been blocked for spam violations." |
| 11:43.16 | Shirik | I tend to disagree with using the in-game ignore list to block spammers |
| 11:43.50 | Shirik | Especially because I don't want to log in to "lkjafdlkjaf has been removed from your ignore list because the player no longer exists" |
| 11:43.57 | Kivin | I'm an asshole. I don't get along with people in general. So my ignore lists are usually comfortable padded with actual players. Putting even _one_ gold spammer on usually isn't an option. |
| 11:44.14 | Kivin | s/table/tably* |
| 11:44.32 | SunTsu | Ignore ist great. I yesterday asked some guys for an invite to theri group for the escort daily in skettis. Truns out I have the group leader on ignore.. |
| 11:44.42 | Kivin | Heh |
| 11:44.54 | Kivin | I've had situations like that |
| 11:45.12 | SunTsu | .o0( an it turns out that I need new fingers, my old ones won't hit the right keys anymore ) |
| 11:45.20 | AKX | Addon idea: "Warning! You have joined a party with [Name], [Name], [Name] who are on your ignore list." |
| 11:45.20 | Kivin | A friend of mine asked a really nice girl I know if she wanted to heal our heroic and found out a few days later that she was on his ignore - he never found out why |
| 11:45.27 | many | Kivin: you cant ignore people who aint online |
| 11:45.38 | Shirik | AKX: whom :) |
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| 11:45.56 | AKX | You sure, Shirik? |
| 11:46.15 | Kivin | I ignored someone's alt when I found out who it was |
| 11:46.19 | Kivin | and i think it worked |
| 11:46.57 | many | or rather |
| 11:47.02 | Shirik | "name" is the object, "ignore list" is the subject |
| 11:47.12 | many | i wish i had an /ignore -everyonewhohastheiraccountshorterthan30days :D |
| 11:47.24 | SunTsu | Kivin: A guild buddy of mine and I took part of a 70's fun run to AQ40, and the raid leader was on my buddy's ignore list - so I always had to tell my buddy what the heck the raid leader just wrot... |
| 11:47.24 | Kivin | heh |
| 11:47.31 | Shirik | When the pronoun acts as the object of the clause, use whom. |
| 11:47.31 | Shirik | The man at the door was not whom she had expected. |
| 11:47.35 | AKX | Shirik, several names there |
| 11:47.43 | Pernicius | many: /signed |
| 11:47.46 | Shirik | yeah well, same difference :) there's 3 objects |
| 11:47.58 | Kivin | Give me an age check in WoW and I'd <3 |
| 11:48.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 11:48.14 | Shirik | that would remove like 50% of my trade chat spam I think |
| 11:48.33 | Shirik | unfortunately I know 22 year-olds whom act like they're 8 |
| 11:48.34 | Kivin | for n = 1, 5 do if UnitAge("party"..n) <= 18 then LeaveParty() end end |
| 11:48.43 | Kivin | Shirik: so true |
| 11:49.00 | SunTsu | I wish blizzard would block every communication from a char < lvl15 or 20, except guild chat and whisper _responses_ |
| 11:49.09 | Kivin | rofl |
| 11:49.16 | Kivin | I'm sure that'd be great for their new business |
| 11:49.28 | Kivin | You join the game and are completely smothered by filters |
| 11:49.36 | Pernicius | hehe |
| 11:49.43 | Shirik | well let them talk to other people <= 20 |
| 11:49.46 | SunTsu | Kivin: Well, it would successfully block gold spammers ;) |
| 11:49.47 | Shirik | just not 70s |
| 11:49.58 | SunTsu | Shirik: Hm, another great idea |
| 11:50.00 | Kivin | SunTsu: so does SpamGuard o.O |
| 11:50.06 | Shirik | they need instance runs :) |
| 11:50.13 | Shirik | but hey guess what |
| 11:50.21 | Shirik | NOW THEY'LL ACTUALLY DO THE INSTANCE INSTEAD OF GETTING A RUN THROUGH |
| 11:50.22 | Shirik | jeesh |
| 11:50.32 | SunTsu | Shirik: instance runs under level 15? |
| 11:50.39 | Shirik | DM? WC? |
| 11:50.44 | Kivin | Every single time I log on my 70s, I get completely hammered with beggers |
| 11:50.47 | Shirik | I guess WC is closer to 20 |
| 11:50.53 | Shirik | I dunno I never really did WC |
| 11:50.53 | thul | seriously, I hate people asking for boosts. |
| 11:51.02 | Shirik | yeah I never got a boost |
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| 11:51.11 | Kivin | I even tell my guildies to go screw themselves when they ask for run-throughs |
| 11:51.11 | SunTsu | Shirik: DM in a group is best 15+ |
| 11:51.11 | thul | why would I, busy leveling at 65, spend 20-30-40 minutes of my precious /played for them? |
| 11:51.12 | Shirik | fortunately I leveled along with about 8 friends we all went to the server together |
| 11:51.17 | thul | a complete stranger? |
| 11:51.33 | winkiller | thul: girlfriend asking for boost is more annoying. can't even tell STFU, FFS, GTFO :( |
| 11:51.45 | Shirik | oh I'm sure she loves you for that |
| 11:51.52 | Shirik | oh, "can't" |
| 11:51.59 | thul | winkiller:( |
| 11:52.02 | Kivin | I love it when they say "PLZZ I RELY NEED IT ILL GIVE U 2 GOLDS PLZZZZZ" |
| 11:52.02 | thul | my gf thinks that wow is nerdy :-P |
| 11:52.02 | SunTsu | Strangest thing is I mostly get asked if I want to be run through an instance |
| 11:52.05 | winkiller | no, she boosts my alts. but :P but not as often |
| 11:52.20 | winkiller | my girlfriend had her 3rd 70 sooner than me |
| 11:52.26 | Shirik | Kivin: Yeah |
| 11:52.31 | SunTsu | winkiller: "If you say "no" now, I'll say "no" tonight" |
| 11:52.34 | thul | I have soon 3x70 |
| 11:52.35 | thul | yay:P |
| 11:52.36 | winkiller | lol |
| 11:52.48 | thul | rogue, paladin, shaman :-D and maybe I'll finnish the warrior when that is done :-P |
| 11:52.51 | Kivin | Hunter 95% complete lv.65 to 66, that'll be number 3 to 70 |
| 11:52.58 | Kivin | lol thul, i'm a 70 pal, 70 shaman as well |
| 11:52.58 | winkiller | SunTsu: the answer is: "gonna raid you anyway!" |
| 11:53.03 | thul | Kivin:) |
| 11:53.22 | Kivin | I can't wait to hit 70 hunter. I'm going to misdirect the Cenarion Emissary onto beggers |
| 11:53.24 | SunTsu | winkiller: Hm, raid? I'm not sure to know anything more |
| 11:53.58 | thul | I started with pally when the game came out, got him to 60, raided some, pvp-ed a lot, got tired of getting my ass handed to me by shamans, so i leveled my shaman to 60, (pre-dranei ofc, so horde), got tired of rogues owning me... so rolled rogue.. got tired of warriors. etc:P |
| 11:54.07 | thul | so, after I have paly, sham, rogue and war, I'll do a lock :-P |
| 11:54.16 | Kivin | lol :P |
| 11:54.20 | winkiller | rogue, druid, lock, warr atm |
| 11:54.20 | Shirik | Random question: I need a very-easy-to-drink high-protein "food." So far I'm going to buy some boost milkshakes, any other suggestions? |
| 11:54.21 | Kivin | because that's the one class blizz wont nerf |
| 11:54.23 | Pernicius | i have one in my guild with 70-lock, 70-hunter, 70-mage(fire), 70-mage(frost), 70-priest, and now he is leveling an paladin^^ |
| 11:54.32 | thul | Kivin: i know :-D |
| 11:54.35 | winkiller | very easy to drin? |
| 11:54.39 | Shirik | er |
| 11:54.46 | thul | I tried my mates lock in pvp in bgs |
| 11:54.49 | Shirik | well I said drink because I was thinking milkshake, but eat works too |
| 11:54.50 | winkiller | I drink everything easy apart from pure gin or margaritas |
| 11:54.53 | thul | like.. pew pew pew, low hp, life drain, pew pew pew |
| 11:54.59 | thul | DOTZORS |
| 11:55.02 | Kivin | After hunter, I'm not sure what I'll do |
| 11:55.15 | Kivin | I've never liked being a warlock; I deleted both a 34 mage and 34 lock |
| 11:55.20 | thul | hehe |
| 11:55.25 | Kivin | I already have a 64 rogue alliance side that I wont touch |
| 11:55.27 | thul | I don't like it either, I love melee damage |
| 11:55.32 | Kivin | and a 33 rogue horde that I might consider |
| 11:55.36 | thul | i love my enhancement shaman |
| 11:55.45 | thul | wf-procs, flurry, focus->shock.. |
| 11:55.48 | thul | the burst is just insane :-D |
| 11:55.48 | Kivin | my shaman got surrendered to a life of healslavery in Kara |
| 11:55.49 | thul | so fun |
| 11:55.52 | thul | :-( |
| 11:56.04 | thul | my mains (rogue atm) guild wants me to lvl my paladin to be healbot :/ |
| 11:56.08 | Kivin | So i leveled my paladin from 16 > 70 purely to do something for myself alone. |
| 11:56.20 | Kivin | So she's retribution and she kicks ass and takes lots of names in PVP |
| 11:56.23 | thul | here i top their dmg-meters in gruul, za and kara each raid, and still they want me to retire my rogue :-( |
| 11:56.32 | thul | Kivin: I'm 2v2 with a ret-pala on my rogue |
| 11:56.40 | thul | shadowstep-rogue + ret-pala |
| 11:56.42 | thul | weirdest setup ever:P |
| 11:56.47 | Kivin | thul: My 2v2 partner is a combat sword rogue |
| 11:56.54 | Kivin | thul: How is it working out for you |
| 11:56.56 | SunTsu | I just could not decide if I like my mage, rogue, hunter or warlock more. So I played them all. Now they all are in level 50-52, so, no need to decide it anymore, just push them all to 70 ;) |
| 11:57.09 | thul | Kivin: well, quite good, my mobility is far, far better with shadowstep, but we are a burst team fosho. |
| 11:57.21 | thul | if we don't get one of the 2 down in a burst, we have a problem :-P |
| 11:57.29 | Kivin | thul: Burst indeed. |
| 11:57.37 | Kivin | Do you try to sap anyone or just bumrush em |
| 11:57.49 | thul | I sap, if they trinket -> blind -> repentance |
| 11:57.56 | Kivin | Ahh, we don't sap |
| 11:58.05 | Kivin | We mount up and use crusader aura to hit them hard and fast. |
| 11:58.06 | Shirik | I never trinket out of sap unless it's necessary |
| 11:58.21 | Shirik | and it usually isn't |
| 11:58.30 | Kivin | at least 3 rounds a week, they simply aren't ready for us to hit them that fast. generally we collide just inside their room's door |
| 11:58.33 | thul | sap-> shadowstep->premed->ambush->HoJ->backstab->(lots of pala-damage)->ks |
| 11:58.34 | thul | etc |
| 11:58.56 | Kivin | if there's a clothie, i can usually 3 or 4 shot them |
| 11:59.03 | Kivin | unless it's a lock |
| 11:59.12 | Shirik | I have as much HP as a lock, does that count? |
| 11:59.17 | thul | with 4-5k ambush on cloth and 2-3k bakstabs, my damage and the palas burst usually fucks them up in like notime |
| 11:59.22 | Shirik | actually I severely doubt you can 3 or 4 hsot me |
| 11:59.36 | Kivin | HP doesn't really matter to me. I have crit 3k,3k,3k in one swing |
| 11:59.41 | thul | I do 6-8k damage the first 2-3 seconds, the pala does a bit less, but still ots |
| 11:59.48 | Shirik | pain suppresion works wonders on that kind of thing |
| 11:59.51 | Kivin | Against a non-resil target, i well imagine |
| 11:59.59 | thul | Shirik: dis-priest suck |
| 12:00.00 | thul | Kivin: mhm. |
| 12:00.09 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 12:00.12 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 07:05:54 2008 EST ]] |
| 12:00.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 12:00.18 | Shirik | armory's broke again |
| 12:00.24 | Kivin | wtf? |
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| 12:00.28 | Kivin | Armory hasn't been up for like two weeks |
| 12:00.33 | Shirik | It came back for a while |
| 12:00.37 | Shirik | or I got lucky |
| 12:00.38 | thul | Kivin: non-resilience mage in wsg the other day.. :-P 4700 ambush, 3200 backstab (berserker buff), ks, vanish, 4200 ambush :-P |
| 12:00.42 | thul | I know it |
| 12:00.44 | thul | I'm a child. |
| 12:00.45 | Kivin | lol thul |
| 12:00.55 | Kivin | I keep track of them, too |
| 12:01.29 | Kivin | I killed a mage in a single round of combat in AB middle last week. 3.2k white + 2.8k seal + 2.8k judge crit. He asploded. |
| 12:02.09 | Shirik | wtb duel |
| 12:02.19 | Kivin | Against a priests? No thanks |
| 12:02.24 | Shirik | see problem is actually I don't do any damage |
| 12:02.25 | RaydenUni | wtb alliance foe for AV |
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| 12:02.33 | Shirik | my duels against rogues tend to last 5 minutes or so |
| 12:02.40 | RaydenUni | shirik what are you? |
| 12:02.42 | Shirik | but periodically the rogue will still win just because I don't do any damage |
| 12:02.51 | Kivin | Priests are the one thing that can invariably own me. Even warlocks are easier to deal with because I can bubble out of their fear and smash them |
| 12:02.53 | thul | Shirik: come to balnazzar, and I'll duel you |
| 12:02.58 | Shirik | 42/19/0 priest |
| 12:03.04 | thul | I kind of love mages after I specced shadowstep |
| 12:03.08 | thul | i go and wait for their blink |
| 12:03.13 | Shirik | I don't have much resilience tbh |
| 12:03.13 | RaydenUni | even with the latest +dmg to healing gear? |
| 12:03.14 | Shirik | only 190 |
| 12:03.16 | Kivin | Mages are <3. They're like a free HK. |
| 12:03.16 | thul | then i shadowstep behind them and assfuckgrind them :-P |
| 12:03.30 | Shirik | RaydenUni: Rogues tend to be good about kicks, etc. |
| 12:03.39 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 12:03.39 | Shirik | the majority of damage I can get on them is sw:p |
| 12:03.41 | thul | I realize that assfuckgrind isn't a word :-( |
| 12:03.43 | RaydenUni | i used to be able to own rogues |
| 12:03.48 | RaydenUni | even if they got the first attack |
| 12:03.52 | RaydenUni | no longer now that i'm 70 |
| 12:03.53 | Kivin | I had a new guy sit in my 2v2 this week because the rogue is gone. I asploded a mage this morning and he was like "WTF?? What happened to that poor little shit?" |
| 12:03.54 | Shirik | and since resilience mitigates that damage.... |
| 12:04.07 | RaydenUni | fear, dot them up, bubble, heal, etc |
| 12:04.19 | Shirik | lol, fear |
| 12:04.28 | RaydenUni | yeah this was more world pvp |
| 12:04.29 | Shirik | let's see, wof, trinket, cos |
| 12:04.37 | RaydenUni | i know fear is pretty worthless in arena |
| 12:04.43 | Kivin | like hell it is |
| 12:04.45 | Shirik | that's 1:30 of fears right there, now I get one for free |
| 12:04.49 | RaydenUni | my friend (warlock) and i tried a couple rounds of arena and we got owned 3 times in a row |
| 12:04.51 | Shirik | 2:00, next fear is trinketed |
| 12:04.52 | Shirik | etc. |
| 12:05.12 | Shirik | and this assumes that he doesn't resist any |
| 12:05.20 | Kivin | Getting feared usually results in my rogue partner getting instapopped |
| 12:05.31 | thul | I kick fears (locks) |
| 12:06.02 | RaydenUni | yeah screw shadow resistant rogues |
| 12:06.07 | Kivin | I may need to reassess how we do lock/heals groups. we always kill healers first, but i might need to raise warlocks on the priority chain |
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| 12:06.14 | RaydenUni | occasionally i'll find one (always rogues) in the battleground who just won't take any of my dots |
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| 12:06.53 | Shirik | Wtf is with wowwiki |
| 12:06.57 | Shirik | "Referred to as "Cloak of Skill" by some players, implying that it takes great skill to use when this may not be the case." |
| 12:06.59 | Shirik | Who wrote that, seriously |
| 12:07.12 | Kivin | (o.O) |
| 12:07.23 | Shirik | it implies that it is a skill++ button basically |
| 12:07.35 | Shirik | not that it takes "great skill to use" |
| 12:08.05 | RaydenUni | so rewrite it |
| 12:08.16 | RaydenUni | that's the wonder of wikis |
| 12:08.19 | Shirik | oh, that was edited yesterday, ha |
| 12:08.44 | Shirik | I will rewrite things for sure, but like seriously |
| 12:08.47 | Shirik | some things are just plain stupid |
| 12:08.49 | Shirik | this is one of them |
| 12:08.53 | RaydenUni | morons may or may not do anything intelligent, but they can be sneaky |
| 12:09.42 | thul | almost like skillcoil:P |
| 12:09.46 | [Ammo] | it is referred to as Cloak of Skill that much is true |
| 12:09.59 | [Ammo] | skillcoil lolcoil etc |
| 12:10.05 | Lukian | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 12:10.09 | thul | Lukian...? |
| 12:10.09 | exor674 | ... |
| 12:10.11 | *** kick/#wowace [Lukian!n=wouter@WoWUIDev/WowAce/ammo] by [Ammo] ([Ammo]) |
| 12:10.22 | Shirik | oooooooooooooooooooooookay |
| 12:10.27 | Shirik | that was fun |
| 12:10.29 | wereHamster | cat on keyboard? |
| 12:10.34 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 12:10.38 | [Ammo] | ask him when he returns |
| 12:10.42 | Shirik | cls |
| 12:10.43 | thul | http://jarleholsen.com/JHOP/media/audio_video/Jarle%20H.%20Olsen%20-%20Solo%20competision%20impro.mp3 |
| 12:11.05 | Shirik | maybe he fell asleep on keyboard lol |
| 12:11.10 | Shirik | wouldn't be the first time I've seen it |
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| 12:11.24 | thul | check out that song, those of you that like guitar masturbation :-D |
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| 12:12.36 | Lukian | hahahahha |
| 12:12.42 | thul | Lukian: we hate you now |
| 12:12.44 | thul | :-( |
| 12:12.44 | Lukian | [Ammo], what'd you kick my cat for? :D |
| 12:12.47 | thul | haha |
| 12:12.52 | thul | [13:10:00] < wereHamster> cat on keyboard? |
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| 12:13.20 | wereHamster | was it really a cat? |
| 12:13.36 | Lukian | why the hell would I hold down u? :p |
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| 12:13.45 | Lukian | and yes.. keyboard repeat noise woke me :( |
| 12:13.48 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
| 12:13.55 | wereHamster | rofl |
| 12:13.56 | exor674 | Lukian: because you wanted to piss off the channel? |
| 12:14.02 | exor674 | and/or you mistook IRC for WoW |
| 12:14.11 | thul | i often do that |
| 12:14.11 | exor674 | and have very odd keybindings |
| 12:14.14 | Lukian | lol |
| 12:14.14 | Shirik | wait Lukian |
| 12:14.15 | thul | but that is more like: |
| 12:14.19 | Shirik | so was it your cat or you on the keyboard? |
| 12:14.21 | doktoreas | i am configuring pitbull to show raid target..but i haven't understand if it shows every member target or just one per kinf |
| 12:14.26 | thul | wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwddddd |
| 12:14.31 | exor674 | haha :D |
| 12:14.32 | Lukian | cat |
| 12:14.35 | Shirik | boo |
| 12:14.42 | doktoreas | *kind. i.e. if all are targeting the same mob, it shows 25 bars? |
| 12:14.52 | Shirik | I like it when people fall asleep on the keyboard |
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| 12:17.07 | RaydenUni | <Shirik> maybe he fell asleep on keyboard lol <-- my friend fell asleep at a LAN party while we were doing some 8v8 Guild Wars "hey, where did daniel go?" |
| 12:17.19 | Shirik | haha |
| 12:17.26 | SunTsu | doktoreas: Normally it will, if you choose to show all of your raid's groups |
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| 12:19.07 | Grum | Omen is misbehaving, in groups/raids it still shows eventhough you toggled it disabled :'( |
| 12:19.08 | doktoreas | SunTsu, is there a way to show the target just 1 one time? |
| 12:19.19 | doktoreas | i remembered of perfect target |
| 12:19.25 | doktoreas | but i couldn't click on them |
| 12:20.12 | SunTsu | doktoreas: Sorry, I don't know |
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| 12:20.33 | Kivin | gah, comp froze up for no reason at all |
| 12:20.38 | Shirik | So do GMs actually revert scams? I'm curious. |
| 12:20.43 | doktoreas | Kivin, np :D |
| 12:20.43 | Kivin | yes |
| 12:21.03 | Kivin | Shirik: If it can be proven that a scam occured, yes |
| 12:21.05 | Shirik | I was just sifting through the TOS and found a note on it. It's interesting, WoW's the only game I know of that does that., |
| 12:21.33 | Kivin | Shirik: it amuses me, too... i'm still used to Eve-Online where the devs not only allow, but applaud the theft of valuables. |
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| 12:23.57 | Kivin | lol, my hunter dinged by exploring halaani basin |
| 12:24.35 | doktoreas | is there any other addon to show raid's target? |
| 12:25.04 | Kivin | that's what unit frames are for |
| 12:25.23 | doktoreas | Kivin, the matter is that pitbull show every member target |
| 12:25.32 | doktoreas | so 25 target also if mob is 1 |
| 12:25.42 | Kivin | doktoreas: of course |
| 12:25.59 | RaydenUni | what kind of scam? |
| 12:26.04 | doktoreas | i'd like to show each one just 1 time |
| 12:26.06 | Kivin | RaydenUni: @who? |
| 12:26.14 | RaydenUni | gets reversed? |
| 12:26.23 | Kivin | Anything that can be proven |
| 12:27.00 | Kivin | doktoreas: you're asking for something sort of strange |
| 12:27.39 | RaydenUni | like what? |
| 12:27.45 | RaydenUni | im just curious what kind of scams go on |
| 12:28.11 | Kivin | "If you show me yours, I'll show you mine." |
| 12:28.19 | Kivin | Erm. Well... use your imagination |
| 12:28.21 | doktoreas | not yours or mine |
| 12:28.24 | doktoreas | but raid |
| 12:28.29 | exor674 | possibly stuff like 3-way trades |
| 12:28.32 | doktoreas | as like raid was one player |
| 12:28.33 | doktoreas | :D |
| 12:28.41 | doktoreas | i'll go for perfect target |
| 12:28.44 | exor674 | "You trade me [leet BoE Epix], Bob will trade you 5000g" |
| 12:28.51 | Lukian | http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=keyboardsleepinif5.jpg @ thul, wereHamster, exor674, Shirik, RaydenUni and anyone else :p |
| 12:29.24 | Kivin | XD |
| 12:29.26 | RaydenUni | so blizzard defends idiocy? |
| 12:29.43 | Kivin | RaydenUni: Not everyone has perfect knowledge of the game or the UI |
| 12:29.49 | Kivin | Mistakes happen |
| 12:29.51 | [Ammo] | hehe lukian ;) |
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| 12:30.13 | Shirik | a common one is |
| 12:30.25 | Shirik | I put my items in a trade, put in some gold, wait for you |
| 12:30.40 | thul | Lukian:P |
| 12:30.44 | Shirik | you put your items in, I try to time right when you're about to hit OK and then remove the gold |
| 12:30.51 | Shirik | then hit ok quickly |
| 12:31.08 | Shirik | I think WoW's trade system is an absolute POS |
| 12:31.17 | Kivin | back in eveonline, there used to be a chap that blogged on the forums |
| 12:31.22 | Grum | <exor674> "You trade me [leet BoE Epix], Bob will trade you 5000g" <-- seriously, falling for that... you have to be so gullible you are not worthy of holding the money |
| 12:31.23 | Kivin | about his experiences scamming people |
| 12:31.35 | Shirik | it should be a two-lock system like just about every other game |
| 12:31.43 | RaydenUni | 2 lock? |
| 12:31.47 | RaydenUni | like you have to press 2 buttons? |
| 12:31.49 | Shirik | Oh another common one is "You have received a gift from Argent Dawn, click below" |
| 12:31.53 | wereHamster | Lukian, nice keyboard, your cats? |
| 12:31.55 | Shirik | (200g COD attached) |
| 12:31.59 | Kivin | he'd spend weeks infiltrating a popular organization that's known to be wealthy |
| 12:32.11 | Shirik | RaydenUni: Basically what happens is you put your items in and hit the first lock |
| 12:32.12 | Lukian | housemate's, but i'm the only one here atm, so they like me extra specially |
| 12:32.17 | Kivin | and blog about the whole thing in real time |
| 12:32.18 | Grum | Shirik: and then you still need to click on: 'Are you sure you want to send XXXX 200g [Yes][No]' |
| 12:32.22 | Shirik | The first lock cannot be removed |
| 12:32.28 | Lukian | *silent* washable foldable keyboard ftw! |
| 12:32.38 | Shirik | Once the first lock is down you can't adjust any items/gold in the trade |
| 12:32.43 | RaydenUni | http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/Fdaveokc/bongophone.jpg |
| 12:32.57 | Shirik | Once both people have the first lock in, you can hit the second (confirm) lock. Once both hit confirm, the trade happens. |
| 12:33.06 | Lukian | except when a bloody cat lies right on top of it and pc speaker beeps wakes you up >< |
| 12:33.06 | Shirik | That way there's none of this last-minute-change crap |
| 12:33.57 | Grum | Lukian: there is a good reason no-one uses pc-beeps anymore ;) |
| 12:34.18 | Kivin | Yeah, because it's cool to let your cat chat quietly in IRC while you snooze |
| 12:34.47 | Lukian | Grum, haha yeah :( |
| 12:34.52 | Grum | ah true, you cant lock your OS ... man they should add that feature |
| 12:34.55 | Shirik | Grum: Most people think it's a "this is 200g for you yey" |
| 12:35.01 | Shirik | because they're too excited and happy |
| 12:35.06 | SunTsu | Some time ago on our realm people sent perls to guys that wanted a righteous orb, which had the same icon, changed the subject to righteous orb, and made it COD with the price for an orb |
| 12:35.14 | Grum | Shirik: again, they are to stupid to hold the 200g in the first place |
| 12:35.43 | Grum | you can still mouse over the item and see its not an orb :) |
| 12:35.49 | Lukian | SunTsu, iirc the trade system never used to have item name displayed |
| 12:35.52 | exor674 | Shirik: did you hear about the person that got like 800 gold off a scammer? |
| 12:36.00 | Lukian | you could item swap anything with the same icon |
| 12:36.16 | Grum | Lukian: i think it did, from the start |
| 12:36.28 | exor674 | they got an argent dawn scam, went and bought like a flint and tinder and wrapping paper, return'd it, sent the thing to the scammer CoD 800g and yeah |
| 12:36.39 | exor674 | now they could be lying but hehe |
| 12:37.13 | Shirik | rofl |
| 12:37.14 | Grum | you cant send stackable items in wrapping paper ^^ |
| 12:37.15 | SunTsu | Grum: Sure, you can, smart people did |
| 12:37.31 | Lukian | Grum, I recall someone trying to trade scam me with the same icon once |
| 12:37.49 | Grum | Lukian: no you just remember 'seeing' it because the name is next to it :) |
| 12:37.53 | SunTsu | Lukian: In the subject normally is the item's name. A lot of people trusted it |
| 12:38.03 | Grum | meh, anyone got 2.5y old trade-screen screenshots? ;D |
| 12:38.31 | Grum | i still dont get why you can only trade 6 items |
| 12:38.42 | exor674 | its frustratin that you can't wrap anything anymore |
| 12:38.43 | Grum | whats the problem in having as much open tradeslots on the *other* side as you have free bagslots? |
| 12:39.01 | Grum | you can wrap non-unique, non bop, nonstackable items |
| 12:39.08 | exor674 | not bags either |
| 12:39.25 | Grum | and some exceptions clearly :D |
| 12:39.27 | exor674 | I wanted to send my guildie a Imbued Netherweave Bag for their birthday |
| 12:39.31 | exor674 | and it was all "no wai" |
| 12:39.36 | exor674 | (to wrapping it :() |
| 12:39.47 | FinalX | >.< |
| 12:40.20 | Grum | [Captured Firefly] you can wrap ^^ |
| 12:40.30 | Grum | much better present as well ;D |
| 12:40.46 | Kivin | wrap and send me a spectral tiger mount |
| 12:41.02 | Grum | i'll cod it .. kk ? |
| 12:41.11 | Kivin | for 90 bajillion coppers? |
| 12:42.36 | exor674 | too bad http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5052 is unique :( |
| 12:42.37 | Grum | 12? |
| 12:42.58 | Shirik | oh I almost got scammed on the AH once |
| 12:43.13 | Shirik | 12s bid, 12g buyout |
| 12:43.23 | Shirik | and I hit buyout for everything |
| 12:43.34 | Shirik | luckily I saw the confirmation box just in time |
| 12:43.45 | Shirik | and I was like "wait, what?" |
| 12:43.50 | Grum | that is when you use 'PricePer' ^^ |
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| 12:50.27 | SunTsu | Shirik: At our realm some guys fell for the old trick to put cheap stuff in the AH and have the first ones be cheap and the next ones 99g. Most peoply buy lots of stacks and stop thinking and just hit OK after the first ones were OK |
| 12:50.40 | Shirik | yup |
| 12:50.46 | Shirik | I think that's what happened to me actually |
| 12:51.01 | Shirik | I forget exactly what I was buying |
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| 12:55.28 | Amadeo | That's about how the prices are these days anyways |
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| 13:32.46 | FinalX | SunTsu: that's why i rarely have more than 50g on me :P |
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| 13:33.11 | FinalX | SunTsu: My wife and I have a guild with just the two of us now and some friends that don't play much, so we use the guildbank for ourselves :P |
| 13:33.27 | FinalX | easy with trading anything, including cash, also to do repairs from ^^ |
| 13:34.09 | SunTsu | FinalX: Hehe, right, I have that for my alts, too, but they don't have that high repairing bills as my main has |
| 13:34.42 | FinalX | hehe :) |
| 13:34.50 | FinalX | We have like 4 slots in our guildbank now.. |
| 13:35.12 | FinalX | We just throw all our money in it, and all cloth/ore/herbs etc we get for easy access by all our chars, works really nicely. |
| 13:35.19 | RaydenU | Nihilum says they will be making a "comeback" to world first sunwell |
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| 13:35.28 | FinalX | Also have a lvl 1 bank/AH alt that has access to it so :) |
| 13:36.00 | Xinhuan | [1/7 20:29:47] <+CIA-10> rabbit * r58003 SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Don't interfere with GM whispers. |
| 13:36.02 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:36.05 | Xinhuan | i just saw that one and chuckled |
| 13:36.25 | FinalX | lol |
| 13:36.54 | FinalX | actually had a GM whisper me back once with "Sure, I'll hold." |
| 13:37.04 | FinalX | during a boss fight =P |
| 13:37.33 | vhaarr | haha, cool |
| 13:37.43 | RaydenU | i love how whenever anyone accomplishes anything in wow everyone has to ridicule them with "you waste your life playing a videogame" |
| 13:38.18 | FinalX | Jealousy is a funny thing, RaydenU :) |
| 13:38.25 | RaydenU | "True, these guys are really overrated. It's not like they're some really good rockband that is going to release a long-awaited album or something. C'mon, off all of use WoW-players these guys have the least of a social-life and that makes them icons or something?" |
| 13:38.37 | SunTsu | .o0( "You are wasting your life reading!" ;) ) |
| 13:38.47 | FinalX | Had my fair share of "server firsts" in the past, not doing much on WoW atm anymore though. |
| 13:38.54 | RaydenU | the most overused argument "you succeed at the internet, you MUST file at life in general" |
| 13:41.36 | Amadeo | Fail at life in /1 |
| 13:43.21 | Kalroth | People are dumb, EOD. :) |
| 13:43.35 | RaydenU | fade got buffed this year? good grief it must have sucked before |
| 13:45.29 | FinalX | Fade was buffed? When? |
| 13:46.07 | sdouble | fade just made you slightly transparent. It was purely cosmetic |
| 13:46.24 | FinalX | Eh no =P |
| 13:46.25 | sdouble | actually, it did work well at low levels |
| 13:46.32 | FinalX | Worked fine in MC too :P |
| 13:46.53 | sdouble | by the time I got up to SM on my priest, it didn't seem to work very well |
| 13:46.54 | RaydenU | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/06/spiritual-guidance-mind-vision-of-2007/ |
| 13:47.05 | sdouble | I was probably just grouped with a bunch of morons |
| 13:47.08 | sdouble | everytime |
| 13:47.21 | RaydenU | "In the end, Blizz reversed their plans, requiring less mana for CoH and making PoM cooldowns reasonable, but keeping all that nonsense involving SP's. Fade got a buff as a consolation prize." |
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| 13:47.38 | RaydenU | i can get aggro, pop fade and nothing happens |
| 13:47.40 | FinalX | Fade is not to lower your threat... just to temporary make others look more interesting to the mob, by the time Fade ends, you're screwed. So you'll have to make sure you don't need to use Fade at all :P |
| 13:47.59 | RaydenU | in fact |
| 13:48.06 | sdouble | yeah, I had a macro that would call out for help and cast fade |
| 13:48.12 | RaydenU | i can get aggro, pop fade, and it will take the tank 3-4 seconds to get aggro back if taunt fails |
| 13:48.15 | sdouble | but I'd fade and they would still want my heart |
| 13:48.30 | RaydenU | the whole time i'm just sitting there picking my toenails |
| 13:48.39 | FinalX | Being a priest at Majordomo was lol |
| 13:48.52 | FinalX | *Fade* "Guys, I'll be dead in about X seconds, cover for me" |
| 13:49.02 | RaydenU | MC'ing people off mountains is just as funny now as it was in 2006. |
| 13:49.03 | RaydenU | :D |
| 13:49.12 | FinalX | yep, especially at mill in ab :P |
| 13:49.21 | RaydenU | it's funny trying to MC people off the edge in EOTS, cause you often don't run them far enough |
| 13:49.35 | RaydenU | so then they sit down on a ledge trying to decide if they want to suicide or not |
| 13:49.42 | RaydenU | since they can't get back up |
| 13:50.52 | FinalX | heheh |
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| 13:54.09 | RaydenU | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/06/addon-spotlight-recount/ |
| 13:54.17 | RaydenU | CC's broken is a great feature of recount |
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| 13:54.34 | RaydenU | man the last time we ran KZ i swear my shackle got broken more times than there were fights |
| 13:54.47 | RaydenU | one time i cast it 4 times before it finally became the dps target |
| 13:55.09 | RaydenU | i learned later the new hunter was accidentally clicking his multi-shot attack |
| 13:55.44 | winkiller | lol |
| 13:55.59 | winkiller | I once had a priest who was guilty of 8ß% of out moroes wipes |
| 13:56.04 | winkiller | just because of broken shackles |
| 13:56.46 | RaydenU | recount is no longer being developed? |
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| 14:42.46 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 14:55.22 | Pkekyo| | DC much? |
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| 15:01.14 | doktoreas | hello |
| 15:01.48 | doktoreas | anyone knows an addon like perfect target that allow selecting the mob clicking on it? |
| 15:06.33 | Grum | strange request, you want to select a mob, then target it? O.o |
| 15:07.20 | Pkekyo| | lol? |
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| 15:08.33 | Pkekyo| | doktoreas: are you looking for a raid/MT-target addon? in which you can click the MT/player's target frame and thus target it yourself? |
| 15:08.51 | doktoreas | Pkekyo|, hi, MT and other player |
| 15:09.00 | capullo | ora2? |
| 15:09.18 | doktoreas | i set up ptibull raid's target but it shows all player target |
| 15:09.21 | Pkekyo| | doktoreas: you want it to work like that in all aspects of the game, and not just raids? |
| 15:09.32 | doktoreas | the matter is to have jut 1 kind of target |
| 15:09.44 | capullo | in ora2 you can also define assist targets i think |
| 15:09.52 | Pkekyo| | I use ora2 for MT/assist targets |
| 15:09.54 | doktoreas | for example in pitbull i have got 25 bar if all raid is targetting the same mob |
| 15:09.58 | Grum | nah, he is looking for an unique selected targets for the whole group/raid |
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| 15:10.10 | SunTsu | doktoreas: oRa2 *hint* |
| 15:10.18 | Grum | but i cant see how that can work tbh :) |
| 15:10.32 | doktoreas | capullo, i define assist and then i can see their target? |
| 15:10.44 | Pkekyo| | doktoreas: correct |
| 15:10.44 | SunTsu | .o0( grid and /assist ;) ) |
| 15:10.46 | Grum | you can have 'player targets' |
| 15:10.51 | Merl | doktoreas, pitbull should allow that, I use the same setup, but remove raidtargets |
| 15:10.53 | capullo | you can show the targettarget of your assist target |
| 15:10.55 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: take grid with you and shoo |
| 15:11.15 | Grum | lol grid ftw :) |
| 15:11.19 | doktoreas | i have grid |
| 15:11.20 | Pkekyo| | sod grid |
| 15:11.28 | doktoreas | but what it can do for target :D |
| 15:11.28 | Grum | nothing beats grid in compactness ;) |
| 15:11.34 | capullo | do you have more than one target? |
| 15:11.44 | capullo | if not you can simple use focus |
| 15:11.48 | Grum | i dont get it doktoreas, from which pov are you looking, you doing dps? |
| 15:11.55 | doktoreas | yep |
| 15:11.56 | Grum | and want to see the targets that the tanks have? |
| 15:12.02 | doktoreas | i am running first kael tonight :D |
| 15:12.08 | Merl | On extra units, there should be "Main tank targets" |
| 15:12.09 | doktoreas | and i ahve more target to take a look |
| 15:12.13 | Pkekyo| | Grum: perfectraid does |
| 15:12.23 | Grum | no perfectraid is not more compact |
| 15:12.33 | doktoreas | i wanna see all mobs bar |
| 15:12.37 | Pkekyo| | if you set it up properly, yes it is |
| 15:12.38 | capullo | only raidmember or also the mobs? |
| 15:12.54 | doktoreas | just mobs |
| 15:12.58 | doktoreas | for raid i use grid |
| 15:13.10 | doktoreas | a sort of grid for mobs :D |
| 15:13.13 | doktoreas | the idea is that |
| 15:13.18 | capullo | only target and focus you can use |
| 15:13.21 | Grum | doktoreas: think about it, how can you select which mobs you should see? |
| 15:13.27 | Grum | all mobs incombat? |
| 15:13.31 | Pkekyo| | best thing you could do as far as I recall, is popping arseloads of MT/assist targets |
| 15:13.32 | doktoreas | yep |
| 15:13.36 | Grum | (that might be something if you can see if they are incombat) |
| 15:13.42 | capullo | if you want to see castbars, buffs... |
| 15:13.42 | Grum | else you can only go by 'targets of people' |
| 15:13.51 | doktoreas | mobs in combat are ok |
| 15:13.53 | Merl | aha, then you could try raid-targets, but it sounds a bit messy, you get 40 targets if everyone is targeting the same mob |
| 15:14.07 | Merl | 40 frames pointing at the same target |
| 15:14.18 | Grum | you cant know who is who if they have the same name |
| 15:14.24 | Grum | so you have a problem then |
| 15:14.39 | Kivin | Does UnitIsUnit just check the name? |
| 15:14.55 | doktoreas | perfect target works fine for that, but doesn't allow clicking.. |
| 15:15.02 | Merl | no, its uniqe mobs Kivin |
| 15:15.05 | Grum | then fix it to allow clicking |
| 15:15.07 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: I imagine you could differentiate by their level (if not the same level) |
| 15:15.26 | Grum | that is hardly ever the case |
| 15:15.29 | capullo | yes, because the frame are created infight |
| 15:15.32 | capullo | i think |
| 15:15.39 | doktoreas | Grum, i remebered that one guy told me that WOW api doesn't allow that |
| 15:15.40 | Grum | mm true |
| 15:16.00 | doktoreas | in this channel |
| 15:16.01 | capullo | if you want to create a clickable frame, you have to use secure templates |
| 15:16.17 | capullo | and thats only allowed when you are ooc |
| 15:16.25 | Grum | i wonder, can you target a button to do: '/target $labelname' or would that break the 'secure template' ? |
| 15:17.08 | Grum | mm ok but you can create 10 secure templates and change their apperance right? |
| 15:17.21 | doktoreas | i think i'll go with ora2 and set player for the players who should take care of the mobs |
| 15:17.30 | Grum | just use the tanks :) |
| 15:17.33 | Merl | yes, the apperance can be changed to what you'd like, but the function is bound pre-fight |
| 15:17.38 | doktoreas | :) |
| 15:17.45 | Grum | and for kael we always have a shadowpriest or rogue doing the main-assist-work (and we put him on the tanklist) |
| 15:17.59 | capullo | but kael'thas is so easy now |
| 15:18.09 | Grum | Merl: mm k |
| 15:18.14 | Grum | kael was never hard |
| 15:18.24 | Grum | the 10% health they took of is hardly noticable |
| 15:18.29 | capullo | without the right dps he was hard |
| 15:18.39 | Grum | yes same with vashj, if you dont have the dps you cant do it |
| 15:19.01 | capullo | we killed kael yesterday |
| 15:19.06 | Grum | grats :) |
| 15:19.14 | capullo | and it was easy like the hell |
| 15:19.20 | Grum | kael is easier than vashj |
| 15:19.27 | capullo | ok, most of us with 4/5 T6 :P |
| 15:19.38 | Grum | i hate that fight, its piss easy on healing and a hell as dps |
| 15:19.48 | Pkekyo| | sweet, a new shipment of DVDs arrived for me this morning :) |
| 15:20.20 | Grum | empty ones i assume? |
| 15:21.18 | EvilJohn- | we got vashj for the first time lastnight |
| 15:21.25 | Pkekyo| | Grum: retail movies |
| 15:21.33 | Grum | EvilJohn: even more grats :) |
| 15:21.42 | Grum | Pkekyo|: heretic! =D |
| 15:21.53 | EvilJohn- | thanks, the best part of that fight is getting everyone attuned and not doing it again |
| 15:22.34 | capullo | eviljohn: if you have the quip later its easy, even if you make many mistakes |
| 15:22.41 | Pkekyo| | Grum: I just like to keep a retail collection of my favourite movies :) |
| 15:22.54 | Grum | but dvd is such a large format ^^ |
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| 15:23.09 | thul | did you miss me? :-D |
| 15:23.10 | SunTsu | Without the right DPS Gruul is hard |
| 15:23.18 | Grum | EvilJohn: if you just need 25 people attuned in total that is scary |
| 15:23.25 | Grum | SunTsu: hehe yeah Gruul is quite hard :P |
| 15:23.29 | thul | SunTsu: with low dps gruul is way hard :-( |
| 15:23.47 | capullo | and the first kill of kael is much harder |
| 15:23.53 | Grum | no way :) |
| 15:24.19 | Pkekyo| | Grumbut dvd is such a large format ^^ <---- what you mean? |
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| 15:24.29 | Pkekyo| | thul: miss you? you been gone? :p |
| 15:24.33 | SunTsu | Even DK is hard without the right dps ;) I remember first setting foot in it. "Anybody know some lvl80 guys that can run us through?" |
| 15:24.35 | Grum | Pkekyo|: like physical space and 4.5gb! |
| 15:24.54 | capullo | ok, our first kill was before the first kael nerf |
| 15:24.55 | Grum | SunTsu: DK? |
| 15:25.07 | Grum | what was the first kael nerf? |
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| 15:25.23 | capullo | 10% less HP |
| 15:25.27 | capullo | for each mob |
| 15:25.27 | Grum | and the second? |
| 15:25.28 | SunTsu | Grum: Er, steam vault |
| 15:25.40 | capullo | another 10% in the first round |
| 15:25.42 | Grum | SunTsu: the last boss orso? |
| 15:25.49 | capullo | and less damage |
| 15:26.20 | Pkekyo| | Grum: physical space is fine with me...I like to see my collection growing :) also, 4.5gb doesn't matter when it's retailed movies that I'm not going to rip :) |
| 15:26.29 | capullo | before thaladred made around 4-5 rounds until he died |
| 15:26.31 | SunTsu | Grum: the whole instance ;) I was just saying that with too little dps anything is hard ;) |
| 15:26.50 | capullo | now only a half round |
| 15:27.03 | Grum | half a round? |
| 15:27.14 | Grum | that is 5s, 10s per gaze i think |
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| 15:27.34 | Grum | in phase 1 we kill him in 30-40s depending on how much we need to run because of target-picking |
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| 15:27.56 | Grum | phase2 he stays alive as long as the engineer |
| 15:27.59 | Grum | erm 3 |
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| 15:28.48 | capullo | depends which mob you kill first |
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| 15:29.13 | Grum | ranged on thaladred and melee on engineer |
| 15:29.24 | Pkekyo| | meh...why does people call me a know-it-all only because I know what ToU and GCD is? :< |
| 15:29.39 | Grum | terms of use, global cooldown? |
| 15:29.48 | thul | people doesen't know what that is? |
| 15:29.50 | capullo | we kill first the add with the fear |
| 15:29.56 | capullo | forgot the name |
| 15:29.58 | Grum | capullo: really? |
| 15:30.02 | Grum | we kill that one second-last |
| 15:30.06 | capullo | the melees of course |
| 15:30.16 | capullo | the ranged on thaladred |
| 15:30.19 | Grum | we dont like the gear+gazed combo |
| 15:30.23 | Grum | *fear+gazed |
| 15:30.24 | Pkekyo| | thul: nah...found some guy trying to automate combat in a macro...told him automation is against the ToU and he didn't know what the flying fuck it was |
| 15:30.39 | capullo | you have the weapons to avoid this? |
| 15:30.41 | capullo | :P |
| 15:30.43 | Grum | no |
| 15:30.48 | Grum | shield eats a fear |
| 15:30.54 | Grum | but you still get feared |
| 15:30.58 | Pkekyo| | your mother eats a fear :O |
| 15:31.04 | Grum | she's dead. |
| 15:31.10 | Grum | she might cause one |
| 15:31.20 | Pkekyo| | that's what you get for eating fears :< |
| 15:31.33 | Pkekyo| | cause one? how? |
| 15:31.45 | thul | she is a ghost |
| 15:31.51 | Pkekyo| | ghosts are awesome, not scary! |
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| 15:32.19 | capullo | phekyo: dont use drugs!! |
| 15:32.26 | Pkekyo| | capullo: I don't? |
| 15:32.30 | Grum | capullo: Use: Shields the caster, absorbing 100000 damage and making the caster immune to Fear and Snare effects for 4 sec. (30 Sec Cooldown) |
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| 15:32.48 | what-K | hi all i look for an addon that says me in verserk stance that i can use overpower |
| 15:32.48 | Grum | that is the shield. none of the other weapons have anything against fears |
| 15:32.55 | Pkekyo| | Grum: absorbing 10k damage? disc priests getting buffed again? >.< |
| 15:32.57 | capullo | you dont need the shield for tanking |
| 15:33.03 | what-K | sct doesnt do it |
| 15:33.07 | capullo | only in phase4 |
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| 15:33.24 | what-K | has someone an idea |
| 15:33.43 | Pkekyo| | capullo: what gave you the impression I do drugs? O.o |
| 15:33.52 | capullo | what-k: use parrot or msbt |
| 15:33.52 | Grum | capullo: nothing helps against the fears except fearward+shield afaik |
| 15:34.09 | what-K | parrot is to overload :( |
| 15:34.22 | what-K | and where i can download this msbt ? |
| 15:34.24 | Grum | parrot is what? |
| 15:34.26 | capullo | then your tank dont know how to play warrior |
| 15:34.32 | capullo | msbt is non ace |
| 15:34.42 | Grum | capullo: its about the dps, you dont want a gazed target being feared |
| 15:34.55 | Grum | if one of the melee get feared and gazed you have a dead melee |
| 15:35.02 | capullo | gazed from the engineer? |
| 15:35.09 | Grum | no, from thaladred |
| 15:35.14 | Grum | you said you kill them at the same time |
| 15:35.21 | Grum | thaladred (gazer) and the feardude |
| 15:35.51 | what-K | Grum sorry ma english iss bad to much infos on the screen |
| 15:36.14 | what-K | capullo u know such addon from ace ? |
| 15:36.19 | Grum | well, parrot is completely localized, so just use a deDE client and you'll get it |
| 15:36.22 | Grum | parrot is suck an addon |
| 15:36.25 | Grum | *such an addon |
| 15:36.44 | capullo | sorry for german, but more easy |
| 15:36.54 | capullo | öhm, parrot nur |
| 15:37.12 | capullo | ich verwende msbt, weils viel einfacher einzustellen ist |
| 15:37.25 | what-K | danke |
| 15:37.35 | capullo | kann ich dir einen link geben |
| 15:37.40 | Grum | parrot > * |
| 15:37.51 | what-K | weil parrot iss ja leider viel zu viel |
| 15:38.00 | Grum | google.com/search?q=wow+addon+mbst ! |
| 15:38.02 | capullo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5153 |
| 15:38.04 | what-K | da sieht man ja fast gar nix mehr während des kampfes |
| 15:38.15 | capullo | kann man alles wegkonfigurieren |
| 15:38.19 | capullo | aber ist sau viel arbeit |
| 15:38.38 | Grum | kk now stop the german, my eyes hurt |
| 15:38.51 | capullo | the default settings of parrot is too heavy |
| 15:40.14 | Josh_Borke | it just takes configuration |
| 15:40.20 | SunTsu | .o0( parrot is much easier on my screen than sct ever was. ) |
| 15:40.21 | Grum | like anything |
| 15:40.26 | Grum | yup |
| 15:40.30 | Grum | <3 parrot <3 |
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| 15:41.03 | what-K | but parrot dont tell when i can use overpower |
| 15:41.05 | SunTsu | I like the triggers ;) Makes tanking Al'ar great. "Armor melt" |
| 15:41.23 | Grum | SunTsu: on yourself ? or when 'another tank' has it? |
| 15:41.26 | SunTsu | what-K: Sure, just it has a trigger for that |
| 15:41.35 | SunTsu | Grum: On myself |
| 15:41.44 | what-K | i have try it but it dont do it :( |
| 15:41.49 | SunTsu | Maybe on another tank, but never looked into it |
| 15:42.12 | SunTsu | what-K: For me it does, I just had to change the trigger to german |
| 15:42.34 | what-K | where must i change that ? |
| 15:42.46 | SunTsu | what-K: Configuration triggers |
| 15:42.54 | what-K | ok thx |
| 15:42.57 | what-K | i try it ;D |
| 15:42.59 | Grum | SunTsu: i always use grid for that :D |
| 15:43.05 | SunTsu | what-K: You can even make it play a sound |
| 15:43.15 | Grum | now *That* is useful |
| 15:43.30 | ramoz | wereHamster: ping? |
| 15:43.39 | ramoz | ~seen wereHamster |
| 15:43.41 | purl | werehamster is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 15h 6m 26s) #wowace (2d 15h 6m 26s). Has said a total of 124 messages. Is idling for 16m 14s, last said: ''trunk' is part of issue, is that so obvious?'. |
| 15:44.01 | what-K | and another thing |
| 15:44.11 | wereHamster | ramoz, I'm here |
| 15:44.36 | Pkekyo| | is the shartuul event still bugged? |
| 15:44.36 | SunTsu | Grum: I need something that draws my attention, I'll look at it before our next TK run |
| 15:44.38 | what-K | i use mmb "minimapbuttonbag" since a few updates the symbol is always on top how can i change this ? |
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| 15:44.52 | ramoz | wereHamster: i get a nil error! :O |
| 15:44.57 | Grum | i meant playing the sound SunTsu |
| 15:45.02 | Grum | that is really useful :) |
| 15:45.22 | wereHamster | ramoz, there's a bug somewhere.. |
| 15:46.00 | Grum | still i dont get how you can possibly not be affraid to get your melee gaze-ganked @ kael phase3 if you kill thaladred and fear-dude at the same time :D |
| 15:46.09 | SunTsu | Grum: Yes, it's great, I'd normally miss it without |
| 15:46.12 | ramoz | Interface\AddOns\IFrameManager\Frames\Anchor.lua:3:attempt to call global 'IFrameFactory' (a nil value) |
| 15:46.16 | ramoz | wereHamster: - |
| 15:46.20 | ramoz | also |
| 15:46.26 | ramoz | i aint getting no cooldown things |
| 15:46.45 | wereHamster | ramoz, which addon updater are you using? |
| 15:46.48 | SunTsu | Just like my lock's nightfall or my warrior's overpower |
| 15:46.58 | capullo | this is without externals |
| 15:47.11 | Josh_Borke | ramoz: is IFrameFactory loaded? |
| 15:47.16 | ramoz | wereHamster: WAU 1.9.44 |
| 15:47.23 | capullo | you have to install the IFrameManager and IFrameFactory manualy |
| 15:47.47 | ramoz | oh |
| 15:47.59 | ramoz | i got IFrameManager automagically |
| 15:48.03 | ramoz | grabbing factory now |
| 15:48.11 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: recommend you make those Dependencies ;-P |
| 15:48.11 | wereHamster | Interface\AddOns\IFrameManager\Frames\Anchor.lua I'm pretty sure he has IFrameManager installed.. |
| 15:48.26 | wereHamster | IFrameFactory is embedded |
| 15:48.31 | Josh_Borke | lies! |
| 15:48.56 | capullo | if you use external libs you also have to install the manager |
| 15:50.02 | wereHamster | ramoz, do you have Interface\AddOns\IFrameManager\Libs\IFrameFactory ? |
| 15:50.09 | ramoz | no |
| 15:50.23 | ramoz | i run withouh externals |
| 15:50.38 | wereHamster | ah well, then you need IFrameFactory |
| 15:50.46 | wereHamster | why didn't wau do that for you? |
| 15:51.02 | ramoz | cause its not in embeds.xml? fuck do i know :P |
| 15:51.17 | capullo | missing dependency in the toc-file i think |
| 15:51.19 | wereHamster | it's in the toc though: ## OptionalDeps: IFrameFactory |
| 15:51.36 | ramoz | well its commencted out? |
| 15:51.42 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r58004 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Implement 17 of 71 talents in stage 2 calculations. |
| 15:51.44 | capullo | nope |
| 15:51.45 | ramoz | err |
| 15:51.49 | capullo | its optional :P |
| 15:52.04 | ramoz | dunno, WAU grabbed IFM but not IFF |
| 15:52.05 | wereHamster | embeds.xml, another of those pseoudo-stadarts? |
| 15:52.19 | Xinhuan | it is a updater standard |
| 15:52.48 | capullo | cooldown is the best cooldownmonitor but nobody maintain it :P |
| 15:52.49 | ramoz | oh well, got it now |
| 15:52.53 | Xinhuan | WAU and various other updaters will read the ## X-Embeds: field in the TOC and every addon listed in this field is downloaded as a disembedded dependency |
| 15:53.14 | Xinhuan | when this happens, WAU and other updaters will also download the no-ext.zip version of the addon |
| 15:53.22 | Xinhuan | which comes with a empty embeds.xml |
| 15:53.24 | wereHamster | back in the old days svn.wowace.com was just a public svn repo for wow addons, now I have to follow some obscure rules/stadarts to have my addon working? |
| 15:53.31 | Xinhuan | yes wereHamster |
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| 15:53.53 | Grum | Xinhuan: wouldn't it be better to make your complete stat-calculating based on enchants/gems/talent-trees into a library? |
| 15:53.54 | Xinhuan | you can choose not to follow them, but when users complain |
| 15:54.05 | Xinhuan | no grum ;d |
| 15:54.26 | wereHamster | why can't wau parse OptionalDeps? |
| 15:54.33 | Grum | why not Xinhuan ? :P |
| 15:54.42 | Xinhuan | because some optdep are totally optdep |
| 15:54.45 | Grum | then other people can also abuse it :D |
| 15:54.48 | Xinhuan | WAU should not be downloading them |
| 15:54.52 | kagaro | ping Ammo |
| 15:54.53 | RaydenUni | how good is end game leatherworking? as important as end game tailoring? for a rogue |
| 15:55.07 | Xinhuan | for example, your addon could support XYZ addon if it exists, and work with it, but you require XYZ addon to be loaded before yours |
| 15:55.16 | Xinhuan | but if XYZ doesn't exist, your addon will work just fine |
| 15:55.20 | ramoz | anyway wereHamster i just love the looks of your timer |
| 15:55.23 | Xinhuan | its optional |
| 15:55.23 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: first strike set is great |
| 15:55.39 | RaydenUni | equivalent tier? |
| 15:55.40 | capullo | raydenuni: drums ftw :P |
| 15:55.40 | wereHamster | I'm getting more and more pissed of with wowace, waiting for ckknight to finish his website.. |
| 15:55.53 | Xinhuan | X-Embeds is hence "required dependencies" that is optdep in case they are embedded |
| 15:55.53 | RaydenUni | name so i can look it up on wowhead? |
| 15:56.01 | Xinhuan | wereHamster, don't wait on it, the entire project is on hold |
| 15:56.04 | Xinhuan | for a few months |
| 15:56.08 | wereHamster | why? |
| 15:56.10 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 15:56.12 | Xinhuan | it just is |
| 15:56.18 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Well, not equal to t4 but close. There are other neat things, too |
| 15:56.20 | Xinhuan | he's too busy to work on it |
| 15:56.20 | ramoz | his got a gf i heard :P |
| 15:56.20 | capullo | i dropped friday alchemy with my mage and collected tons of different leather _P |
| 15:56.32 | Xinhuan | notice he doesn't even really update his addons anymore? |
| 15:56.33 | capullo | no i have leatherworking 374 |
| 15:56.36 | wereHamster | I guess I can always get back to my own svn/git server.. |
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| 15:56.50 | RaydenUni | SunTsu link to first strike? |
| 15:57.05 | Xinhuan | well like i said, you can CHOOSE not to follow these standards, but people would just complain about missing dependencies |
| 15:57.12 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: wait a sec |
| 15:57.26 | RaydenUni | swiftstrike? |
| 15:58.07 | Xinhuan | in my opinion, having to track 200 addons over 14 different SVNs is pretty painful |
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| 15:58.57 | Xinhuan | from a user point of view that is |
| 15:59.02 | Grum | Xinhuan: but seriously, might be nice if someone made a lib out of it :P |
| 15:59.02 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: No, http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Primalstrike+Bracers |
| 15:59.08 | Xinhuan | maybe grum |
| 15:59.11 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: it's primal strike |
| 15:59.16 | Grum | and as you are already gathering all of that info .. mmmm *hint* mmm ;D |
| 15:59.43 | Grum | and if you make a lib out of it you will get contributions from others as well :D |
| 16:00.05 | wereHamster | yeah, but not even two days since I picked up development and I'm already pissed of quite badly.. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10704.0 |
| 16:00.06 | Xinhuan | i don't think that's necessary, you only make something a lib if you expect more than 1 addon to use the functions in it |
| 16:00.37 | Grum | well stat-stain could use it, ratingbuster |
| 16:00.37 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Primalstrike+Vest http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Primalstrike+Belt |
| 16:00.43 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 16:00.44 | RaydenUni | thanks |
| 16:00.49 | Grum | most addons of these addons actually |
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| 16:01.02 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: There are other great things, like Cobra Scale hood |
| 16:01.03 | RaydenUni | SunTsu where would you have to go to replace those? KZ or after? |
| 16:01.11 | RaydenUni | so as a rogue its definitely worth going leather? |
| 16:01.23 | RaydenUni | my friend is lvl 40 mining/eng and is thinking of dropping that to do leather |
| 16:01.27 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Mostly aboce Karazhan |
| 16:01.37 | SunTsu | above even |
| 16:02.06 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Well, having a rogue with an rezz cable is great, too ;) |
| 16:03.29 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 16:03.38 | thul | rogues ftw |
| 16:03.53 | RaydenUni | yeah then your groupmates love you for surviving after a wipe instead of hating you |
| 16:03.58 | thul | i raid with the shadowmoon valley head still :-( |
| 16:04.00 | RaydenUni | i'm telling him to go eng/LW :D |
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| 16:04.17 | RaydenUni | i replaced that one with my spellstrike set |
| 16:04.49 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: If he has a good supply of leather it is worth doing it |
| 16:05.08 | RaydenUni | we have some other guildmates who are leather |
| 16:05.17 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: Having to use AH for eg. cobra scales to do http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Cobrascale+Hood is a plain PITA |
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| 16:07.35 | Grum | wereHamster: i'm curious, you made a very generic docking/snapping frame-manager, but how do you see its use in wow itself? |
| 16:08.04 | Grum | you hardly move frames around and it seems that would be the main use |
| 16:08.49 | Pkekyo| | Grum: ever used MoveAnything! ? :> |
| 16:08.51 | wereHamster | Grum, but when I do, I want it to be easy and comfortable |
| 16:09.19 | Pkekyo| | it had more uses earlier, but it's still somewhat useful now |
| 16:09.24 | Grum | Pkekyo|: no becasue i dont have blizzard frames anywhere |
| 16:09.38 | Grum | mm that is a lie =D |
| 16:09.41 | Grum | hardly anywhere :D |
| 16:10.10 | Pkekyo| | you've got to consider the fact that there's actually some twats out there that uses more or less the default UI |
| 16:10.25 | Grum | LOL .. no way |
| 16:10.29 | Grum | those people dont exist! |
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| 16:10.43 | Pkekyo| | they do, and they should all suffer a horrible death...but that's another discussion... |
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| 16:10.58 | Wogroipl_ | does anyone else not see the new totemic recall button in Numen? |
| 16:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | okay what the fuck can i do? i hate HUDs, but i want one. i need the exact HP numbers still somewhere, recommendations? |
| 16:11.30 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: ArcHDU does that... (with the help of mobinfo or whatev) |
| 16:11.52 | Pkekyo| | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg my old archud setup |
| 16:11.57 | Matrix110 | isnt there some UFs that just display exakt HP exakt Mana ? |
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| 16:12.02 | Matrix110 | with text |
| 16:12.05 | Matrix110 | nothing else |
| 16:12.12 | Matrix110 | *exact |
| 16:12.17 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: doesn't show the hp of ToT or ToToT though |
| 16:12.19 | wereHamster | Grum, just like you still have 640k, right? because that is enough for everyone? didn't we learn 20years ago that making absolute statements is not very bright? |
| 16:12.55 | RaydenUni | The 2 Ring exists right? |
| 16:12.57 | RaydenUni | i can't find it |
| 16:13.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: i was talking about my own HP, i wouldn't put the target HP on the HUD anyway |
| 16:13.02 | Pkekyo| | wereHamster: shit, if we didn't learn that until 20 years ago, we're better off getting screwed anyways : |
| 16:13.03 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 16:13.22 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: it also does that, though it fades out (after I set it to do so) when hp is full |
| 16:13.59 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: it existed in the 2d flash murloc version :p |
| 16:14.01 | sag_ich_nicht | hm that sounds good |
| 16:14.21 | Pkekyo| | as you can see, my bars also faded out |
| 16:14.33 | Pkekyo| | it's behaviour is highly configurable though |
| 16:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | hm what texture options? :P |
| 16:15.06 | Pkekyo| | only one, sadly....smooth red/yellow/blue and green for hp |
| 16:15.08 | thul | locks have it easy |
| 16:15.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo| well that sucks. |
| 16:15.20 | Pkekyo| | thul: thank you, captain obvious? :p |
| 16:15.32 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: but then again, I never tried to replace it...I wouldn't know |
| 16:15.36 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 16:15.39 | Pkekyo| | might be able to do something with sharedmedia |
| 16:16.03 | Pkekyo| | as my bars are always faded out when I'm not taking damage, I don't care much about the texture |
| 16:16.23 | vhaarr | RaydenUni: no, it doesn't exist |
| 16:16.32 | RaydenUni | i must be thinking of the murlock rpg |
| 16:16.35 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 16:16.40 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: yes you are |
| 16:16.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:16] <Pkekyo|> as my bars are always faded out when I'm not taking damage, I don't care much about the texture <--melee and plate. i get hit a lot :P |
| 16:17.00 | cladhaire | "It is built on Ace2 for increased effiency and perfomance." |
| 16:17.07 | thul | Pkekyo|: :-P |
| 16:17.23 | RaydenUni | [17:16] <Pkekyo|> as my bars are always faded out when I'm not taking damage, I don't care much about the texture <--melee and plate. i get hit a lot :P <-- spriest and cloth. i get hit a lot |
| 16:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire HUD that HUD hater would like. |
| 16:17.33 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I'm a warrior :) |
| 16:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: paladin :P |
| 16:17.47 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.58 | Pkekyo| | now shutup and heal me xD |
| 16:18.01 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:18.05 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 16:18.05 | Kivin | ~framexml |
| 16:18.05 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 16:18.17 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 16:18.23 | Pkekyo| | guessing it's pvp gear or naked |
| 16:18.48 | cladhaire | anyone have a screenshot of Numen? |
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| 16:19.04 | capullo | !c eu Onyxia Capullo |
| 16:19.06 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: ruknor is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:19.10 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo|: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (33/25/3). 11344 HP; 9729 Armour; 1588 AP; 243.600 Melee DPS; 32.29% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 5.89% dodge; 5.00% block; 240 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 980 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 11:24:54 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:19.15 | ThraeBot | capullo: Capullo, Level 70 Human Mage (10/48/3). 7573 HP; 9056 Mana; 215 mana regen; 326 spell crit; 134 spell hit; 1125 +spell dmg/heal; 49 fire dmg (1174); 5.26% dodge;[[ TBR: 1017 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywt5jd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39anqs ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 11:24:58 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 16:19.52 | capullo | cool something to spam the channel :P |
| 16:20.03 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: thraebot doesn't like you much xD |
| 16:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up, this is serious :P |
| 16:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just laggy |
| 16:20.33 | Grum | wereHamster: they dont exist in my world ^^ |
| 16:20.40 | capullo | the professions are missing, or? |
| 16:20.44 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: ruknor is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:20.55 | Grum | so the statement is absolute and truthful ;D (for my pov) |
| 16:21.47 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 16:21.50 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (5/8/48). 9257 HP; 5718 Mana; 91 mana regen; 9579 Armour; 1922 AP; 280.100 Melee DPS; 29.46% melee crit; 96 melee hit; 103 +spell dmg/heal; 8.41% dodge; 5.00% block; 66 resilience;[[ TBR: 1651 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmjmj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uynsq ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 11:27:34 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | there we go |
| 16:21.57 | sag_ich_nicht | don't even think of ever getting a healspell from me, sucker :P |
| 16:22.11 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58005 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: GatherMate: fixed a bug in id conversion |
| 16:23.11 | Pkekyo| | you're a retardin? |
| 16:23.22 | *** join/#wowace fridg (n=Fridgid@24.96.171.56) |
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| 16:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: so? |
| 16:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:24.04 | Grum | mmm what is gathermate .. mmmm |
| 16:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | it's retadin, if anything. only thing retarded about it is that people seem to think inventing insulting names for it is funny |
| 16:24.38 | Xinhuan | grum, its the cartographer_gatheringmodules replacement that kagaro/me is working on, although i haven't actually done anything |
| 16:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | guess what, it's not. now DIAF |
| 16:25.01 | Grum | oh nice |
| 16:25.02 | Kivin | ./comfort sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:25.05 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I know it's not original, but retris have lost all credibility with me |
| 16:25.08 | Kivin | <- Ret Paladin |
| 16:25.13 | Xinhuan | it will be ace3, and not dependant on any map mod |
| 16:25.13 | Grum | any massive planned changes or just a generic interface for storing c rap? |
| 16:25.31 | Xinhuan | it will be far simpler, using pure numbers to store data |
| 16:25.46 | Xinhuan | insteaf of the strings used in Cart |
| 16:26.00 | Xinhuan | each herb/ore, etc has a ID that is |
| 16:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:25] <Pkekyo|> sag_ich_nicht: I know it's not original, but retris have lost all credibility with me <--how so? |
| 16:26.13 | Xinhuan | and so does each zone |
| 16:26.28 | Xinhuan | so its similar, just more efficient |
| 16:26.32 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: every bloody one I've met thus far has been complete retarded arsehats |
| 16:26.52 | Xinhuan | i'm also going to remove GraphLib dependency from _Routes |
| 16:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: well, i can't say i'm not an asshole, but i know wtf i'm doing in the game very well |
| 16:26.58 | thul | : |
| 16:27.01 | thul | <. retri |
| 16:27.02 | Xinhuan | and just copy the ONE function i use from it |
| 16:27.17 | thul | :-P |
| 16:27.23 | Xinhuan | which i already have permission from cryect |
| 16:27.29 | Grum | Xinhuan: most of the constant file can be harvested from wowhead btw :) |
| 16:27.33 | Grum | you might want to look into that :D |
| 16:27.45 | Xinhuan | yep, kagaro has a script |
| 16:28.10 | Grum | ah good |
| 16:28.22 | Xinhuan | also ported graphlib to 2.0 libstub, i haven't fully fixed it up yet |
| 16:28.27 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: might be so...only lolretri I haven't ignored yet keeps bitching about not being able to dualwield >.< |
| 16:28.30 | Xinhuan | the upgrade paths aren't coded |
| 16:29.04 | Xinhuan | so in the current form, if you have multiple graphlib versions, all copies remain in memory |
| 16:29.08 | Kivin | Granted I've seen some really bad Retribution paladins. I still do amazing DPS in heroics |
| 16:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: tell him he's a retard and needs to die in a fire; if he doesn't like swinging huge fucking slow weapons that hit like the fist of an angry god, he should reroll rogue |
| 16:29.12 | Xinhuan | and none gets trashed |
| 16:29.17 | thul | any of you guys good with assessment? |
| 16:29.31 | Xinhuan | so 1.0 needs a rewrite anyway |
| 16:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | I LIKE oneshotting S1 equiped clothies |
| 16:29.46 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I allready told him to diaf...also told him to roll a warr or a shammy....but he refuses and keeps crying for lolretri dualwield |
| 16:29.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: he's a retard |
| 16:29.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ignore him |
| 16:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hmm |
| 16:30.26 | thul | if you want flurry, roll shaman:P |
| 16:30.34 | thul | if you want nasty from-stealth ambushes, roll rogue |
| 16:30.45 | thul | if you want to be the furious, holy hand of god, smiting defiant unbelievers |
| 16:30.52 | thul | roll paladin and read theorycraft for a year |
| 16:30.56 | Kivin | if you want to crit 3,000 Dmg 3 times in a row... in one swing... roll paladin |
| 16:30.58 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I know he is :p |
| 16:31.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: 3k? low. |
| 16:31.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i hit for ~4k. |
| 16:31.14 | Kivin | sag_ich_nicht: dunno about you, but my gear sucks |
| 16:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | (raidbuffed) |
| 16:31.23 | thul | Kivin: I just have to say: big 2h WF-triple-crits :-P |
| 16:31.23 | Grum | Kivin: how many times do you have that per minute? |
| 16:31.32 | thul | (not that 2h enhancement is very ciable anyhow) |
| 16:31.33 | thul | viable |
| 16:31.40 | Kivin | Grum: about every six seconds on clothies |
| 16:31.44 | Kivin | Grum: Sorry, eight |
| 16:31.52 | sag_ich_nicht | what, no, 6. |
| 16:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | the cooldown is 6. |
| 16:31.57 | sag_ich_nicht | not 8. |
| 16:31.59 | Kivin | that triple 3k is with judge |
| 16:31.59 | Grum | wackadins are silly :P |
| 16:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | meeeh |
| 16:32.12 | Kivin | 3k white 3k seal 3k judge |
| 16:32.17 | Kivin | boom boom boom |
| 16:32.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you forgot crusader strike, noob! |
| 16:32.31 | Kivin | that's just a nice bonus |
| 16:32.36 | sag_ich_nicht | pfff |
| 16:32.37 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 16:32.39 | sag_ich_nicht | what you need to do |
| 16:32.42 | sag_ich_nicht | is get SoC up |
| 16:32.48 | Grum | so once every 6 seconds you can do 9k dmg :P |
| 16:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | then run up to a clothie and hit him with crusader strike |
| 16:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | autoattack will hit the second the CS hits |
| 16:33.00 | thul | joc |
| 16:33.03 | Kivin | Grum: I do 700-760 DPS consistently in heroics |
| 16:33.06 | sag_ich_nicht | then just hit JoC |
| 16:33.22 | Grum | kivin: and on .. voidreaver? |
| 16:33.30 | Kivin | Grum: I'm in blues |
| 16:33.48 | Grum | nah, nothing to compare it with then :P |
| 16:34.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i do ~950 dps if our melee shamy decides to be NOT retarded for once |
| 16:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB second melee shamy that isn't a complete and utter retard |
| 16:34.35 | Grum | and you do raid right? |
| 16:34.39 | capullo | sag_ich_nicht: as warrior? |
| 16:34.41 | Kivin | I don't know if I've played with a shaman more than perhaps once since I hit 70 and went retri |
| 16:34.43 | Xinhuan | our prot pally MTed Gorefiend tonight, he did 1400-1500 TPS lol |
| 16:34.45 | sag_ich_nicht | vashj 2/4 generators |
| 16:34.46 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: here I am :-P |
| 16:35.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:34] <capullo> sag_ich_nicht: as warrior? <--retribution paladin |
| 16:35.05 | Xinhuan | boss is undead though |
| 16:35.28 | Grum | Xinhuan: paladins are stupid nonstop aggro given enough dmg :) |
| 16:35.38 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 16:35.45 | capullo | for end of ssc nice dps |
| 16:35.53 | Xinhuan | cleared ALL the trash to gorefiend with just one tank too |
| 16:36.01 | Xinhuan | because our other one d/ced and never came back |
| 16:36.02 | Grum | lol |
| 16:36.08 | Grum | that is quite hard :D |
| 16:36.11 | Grum | but palatank? |
| 16:36.14 | Xinhuan | yep palatank |
| 16:36.21 | Xinhuan | and 3 sheeps |
| 16:36.23 | Grum | somewhat more doable :) |
| 16:36.28 | Grum | but still not easy, massive healing hehe |
| 16:36.41 | Josh_Borke | trash to solarian, is it easy? |
| 16:36.46 | Xinhuan | he snapped at people fearing mobs off him |
| 16:36.52 | Grum | he prolly went through his durability like hell :P |
| 16:36.55 | Xinhuan | "fuck don't fear it, 100 dmg per hit isn't gonna kill me" |
| 16:36.59 | capullo | we make all hyjal waves with protpala |
| 16:37.04 | capullo | its so nice |
| 16:37.21 | capullo | after 2 seconds tanking you can start bombing like the hell |
| 16:37.22 | Grum | you need a prot pally in MH for an easy life :P |
| 16:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:35] <capullo> for end of ssc nice dps <--i could have more |
| 16:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | but i cba to farm more honor |
| 16:37.42 | capullo | i reach 3,5k dps |
| 16:37.46 | sag_ich_nicht | rogue? |
| 16:37.50 | capullo | mage |
| 16:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 16:37.57 | Grum | aoe yes :P |
| 16:37.58 | Xinhuan | trash to solarian is the easiest trash you can ever clear in TK |
| 16:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | for 1 second huh? :P |
| 16:38.04 | Xinhuan | that's to Josh_Borke |
| 16:38.05 | Grum | Xinhuan: yeah indeed |
| 16:38.12 | capullo | last winterchill 1,6k dps |
| 16:38.18 | Xinhuan | there's about 7 packs, and 5 of them are aoe-able |
| 16:38.26 | Grum | lies Xinhuan |
| 16:38.26 | capullo | gorefiend 1,8k |
| 16:38.36 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: danke. i've recently been promoted to leading raids so i'm pushing for solarian and want to make sure i'm asking people who are smart |
| 16:38.36 | Xinhuan | hmm 9 packs after you count the pats |
| 16:38.48 | Grum | 1 patrol, 2 giants, 2 pats, 5 aoe groups |
| 16:38.58 | Grum | 9 pulls :) |
| 16:39.26 | Grum | i hate t5, i can dream the whole instance :'( |
| 16:40.03 | capullo | good prot palas are underestimated |
| 16:40.10 | sag_ich_nicht | indeed. |
| 16:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | problem is |
| 16:40.15 | sag_ich_nicht | most of them are retards |
| 16:40.19 | sag_ich_nicht | since this applies to all classes |
| 16:40.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm scaning our raid with Scrub now |
| 16:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and flaming people as i see fit |
| 16:40.34 | thul | scrub? |
| 16:40.40 | Xinhuan | scrub is overly critical |
| 16:40.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i know, thus "as i see fit" |
| 16:41.09 | Grum | good point, i should download that heheh |
| 16:41.14 | sag_ich_nicht | found one of our WLs to be specced complete retarded |
| 16:41.18 | sag_ich_nicht | as in |
| 16:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN DAMAGE specced |
| 16:41.39 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, link spec :D |
| 16:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mine? |
| 16:41.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 16:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | the WL spec |
| 16:41.49 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 16:41.51 | Lukian | aye :D |
| 16:41.59 | Kivin | What's a WL spec? |
| 16:42.02 | sag_ich_nicht | warlock |
| 16:42.03 | Lukian | warlock |
| 16:42.08 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe she respecced already |
| 16:42.16 | sag_ich_nicht | if she didn't you'll have something to laugh at |
| 16:42.25 | sag_ich_nicht | hmm |
| 16:42.28 | sag_ich_nicht | armory lagging like fuck |
| 16:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Neferu |
| 16:42.51 | Lukian | I think EU armory is broken as usual ^_^ |
| 16:42.54 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:43.14 | capullo | it also crashs my firefox :( |
| 16:43.29 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve <- laugh at that spec:P |
| 16:43.35 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Neferu is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:43.40 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 16:43.45 | sag_ich_nicht | armory down i guess |
| 16:43.58 | thul | my imba 16-3-42 spec |
| 16:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | as? |
| 16:45.24 | cladhaire | Anyone have any idea why Numen isn't working? |
| 16:45.26 | capullo | why you use "imba"? |
| 16:45.28 | cladhaire | since you guys were discussing it earlier |
| 16:45.35 | thul | why i use my imba-spec? |
| 16:45.35 | capullo | imba = imbalanced or? |
| 16:45.36 | cladhaire | the addon is loaded (keybindings are there) |
| 16:45.37 | thul | beacause it rocks :-D |
| 16:45.39 | cladhaire | but the slash command isn't registered |
| 16:46.18 | Wogroipl_ | cladhaire, there was an update to add a Totemic Recall button, but that doesn't show for me either |
| 16:46.28 | cladhaire | well _nothing_ shows :P |
| 16:46.43 | bigzero | if some mod already hooked a secure function using :Hook() and now i'm trying to hook it, would I get the warning that it's a secure function? assuming I'm hooking after that mod |
| 16:46.53 | Wogroipl_ | it does for me, only the order is borked |
| 16:46.56 | cladhaire | my boyfriend just rolled a shaman and wants something nice and simple, and we're trying to avoid reinventing the wheel |
| 16:47.04 | cladhaire | Wogroipl_: hrm.. like I said /numen doesn't even work!! |
| 16:47.15 | Wogroipl_ | it does for me :) |
| 16:47.35 | Xinhuan | bigzero, :Hook() isn't secure |
| 16:47.42 | Xinhuan | and will break secure status |
| 16:47.43 | cladhaire | ah |
| 16:48.00 | cladhaire | externals are wrong |
| 16:48.13 | cladhaire | anyone up for fixing them, to include DewDrop? :P |
| 16:48.18 | cladhaire | if not, I'll do it latyer |
| 16:48.20 | bigzero | Xinhuan, ok, because someone just complained that they were getting the "trying to hook secure function..." error and I wasn't getting it |
| 16:48.29 | bigzero | Xinhuan, that would explain why |
| 16:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Neferu |
| 16:49.38 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Neferu, Level 70 Human Warlock (39/1/21). 9330 HP; 8080 Mana; 116 mana regen; 184 spell crit; 138 spell hit; 846 +spell dmg; 183 frost dmg (1029); 285 shadow dmg (1131); 4.59% dodge;[[ TBR: 751 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29f9dj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34owzz ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 11:55:22 2008 EST ]] |
| 16:49.50 | Pkekyo| | lmao, this movie I'mw atching (a piece of shit btw), some guy pissed in his own shoes for a dollar |
| 16:49.51 | Kivin | [Guild][Tatterak]: MAIDEN IS THE HARDEST BOSS EVER!!!! |
| 16:49.53 | Kivin | *sigh* |
| 16:50.05 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, found no issues with addonloader (nonace) |
| 16:50.10 | sag_ich_nicht | there you go, have a laught at the spec |
| 16:50.13 | Xinhuan | apart from being unable to override |
| 16:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking retarded women |
| 16:50.25 | Lukian | Kivin, lol |
| 16:50.49 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: what the flying fuck? :p |
| 16:51.01 | Kivin | I don't know |
| 16:51.03 | Kivin | I just don't know |
| 16:51.06 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: awesome |
| 16:51.37 | Kivin | Needless to say, I don't raid with my guild |
| 16:51.39 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r58006 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.lua: |
| 16:51.39 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 16:51.39 | CIA-8 | - ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler was secure after all. Fixed the "Attempt to hook secure function..." error. |
| 16:51.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:49] <Kivin> [Guild][Tatterak]: MAIDEN IS THE HARDEST BOSS EVER!!!! <--we killed maiden without healers already |
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| 16:52.11 | Kivin | sag_ich_nicht: my raid has never wiped on her. i don't know what the deal is |
| 16:52.16 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: gkick? :p |
| 16:52.24 | Kivin | ... |
| 16:52.45 | Xinhuan | maybe [Tatterak] needs a </sarcasm> tag behind his message, because it seems half this channel didn't get it |
| 16:52.51 | sag_ich_nicht | we just put the SP into the tank group and the ench sham occasionally threw a chainheal and i just dispelled all the holy fires... not like she does any kind of damage |
| 16:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i think Kivin pasted this because it WASN'T sarcasm. |
| 16:53.25 | Kivin | It wasn't =/ |
| 16:53.29 | Xinhuan | i generally think something in all caps is sarcasm ~_~ |
| 16:53.41 | Xinhuan | complete with the !!!! |
| 16:53.47 | thul | which message? :-P |
| 16:54.01 | Kivin | ... |
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| 16:55.07 | Kivin|Away | Needs moar groceries |
| 16:55.53 | thul | i think tatterak was ironic |
| 16:55.58 | thul | :-P |
| 16:55.59 | thul | anyhow, i dislike netherspite |
| 16:56.24 | sag_ich_nicht | piece 'o cake |
| 16:56.32 | thul | maiden is, not ns |
| 16:56.39 | sag_ich_nicht | netherspite too |
| 16:56.52 | sag_ich_nicht | just don't do the stupid ZOMFG RUN TO THE WINDOW tactic. |
| 16:56.57 | sag_ich_nicht | just keep hitting him in the banish |
| 16:57.05 | sag_ich_nicht | if you can't do it, your healers suck. |
| 16:58.05 | thul | well, I'm a rogue, I just pewpew |
| 16:58.06 | thul | :-P |
| 16:58.18 | thul | and we do NS too, when the "core" raiders are present |
| 16:58.21 | thul | but with n0bs? |
| 16:58.23 | thul | no chance:p |
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| 17:01.58 | thul | how is enhancement shaman in pvp? |
| 17:02.15 | thul | and do I have to go leather? :-( |
| 17:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 17:02.30 | sag_ich_nicht | don't. |
| 17:02.31 | Pkekyo| | thul: it's a joke, go elemental :p |
| 17:03.00 | thul | Pkekyo|: pffft:P |
| 17:03.38 | Xinhuan | do you think Hex Lord Malacrass is doable without a priest? |
| 17:03.54 | Pkekyo| | thul: seriously, good elementals are a dream to play with |
| 17:04.35 | thul | well, I did that before, but "cl, lb, cl, lb, cl, em, cl, lb" is boring after a while:P |
| 17:04.41 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: You playing the shaman itself or the opponent? ;) |
| 17:05.14 | Pkekyo| | I'm playing alongside the shaman |
| 17:05.20 | Pkekyo| | and it's bloody beautiful |
| 17:06.20 | Pkekyo| | heals me like a bloody resto shaman and deals arseloads of damage |
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| 17:15.27 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
| 17:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ArcHUD2 is using Metrognome? |
| 17:15.45 | sag_ich_nicht | who ever the fuck wrote that needs to DIAF |
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| 17:17.40 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, that's the main reason why I switched to icehud |
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| 17:21.03 | thul | lf superguild @ balnazzar |
| 17:21.04 | thul | :-P |
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| 17:21.10 | thul | DIAF? |
| 17:21.15 | thul | and who uses huds anyway? :-P |
| 17:21.26 | sag_ich_nicht | die in a fire |
| 17:21.58 | thul | but I never understood huds |
| 17:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | hm lemme try that then Lukian... metrognome is a performance whore |
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| 17:22.31 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, aye. It's shocking |
| 17:22.36 | Pkekyo| | wtf is metrognome? |
| 17:22.43 | Lukian | icehud is ok, the castbar is a bit broken |
| 17:22.49 | thul | hmm |
| 17:22.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't need a castbard |
| 17:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | *castbar |
| 17:23.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i only need the hud for my own HP/MP |
| 17:23.11 | thul | unit frames? |
| 17:23.13 | Lukian | it'll do the job nicely then :) |
| 17:23.26 | Lukian | ag`, !! |
| 17:23.30 | thul | yeah |
| 17:23.31 | thul | aguf |
| 17:23.32 | thul | :-D |
| 17:23.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 17:23.39 | Lukian | ag`, "display own portrait" in party, kthxbai. |
| 17:23.39 | sag_ich_nicht | x-perl ftw. |
| 17:23.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 17:23.52 | Lukian | display self* |
| 17:24.05 | sag_ich_nicht | and i already have my own hp shown and put it pretty central |
| 17:24.09 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not central enough |
| 17:24.22 | Lukian | you can even use the player frame if you want, I just want the player frame hidden while solo and shown when partying |
| 17:24.59 | thul | what about target-of-target etc if you use hud? :-P |
| 17:25.28 | Lukian | thul, those are/can be available still :) |
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| 17:29.03 | Wogroipl_ | Xinhuan, Hex Lord is doable without a priest, we did it with resto shaman an holy paladin healing |
| 17:29.41 | Wogroipl_ | concentration aura and have the shaman do his earthshield on himself |
| 17:29.44 | Xinhuan | how did you handle the undead add |
| 17:29.51 | Xinhuan | kill it first? |
| 17:29.57 | Xinhuan | instead of shackle full fight? |
| 17:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 17:30.29 | Wogroipl_ | \ |
| 17:30.34 | sag_ich_nicht | wth is IceHUD doing, Lukian? |
| 17:30.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it uses waterfall but doesn't seem ot have an ace opt table |
| 17:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | *to |
| 17:30.50 | Wogroipl_ | uhm, could be we had a shadow priest :) |
| 17:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | (haven't checked the files yet but can't see it in rock config) |
| 17:31.03 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, ya I'm not sure on that one either ;D |
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| 17:31.16 | Lukian | I just use the gui to configure it |
| 17:31.28 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.42 | sag_ich_nicht | so am i |
| 17:31.43 | sag_ich_nicht | but still |
| 17:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | wth |
| 17:31.53 | Lukian | go stalk iceroth |
| 17:34.25 | kagaro | Hex lord owes me a trinket |
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| 17:35.44 | Elsia | hi |
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| 17:36.07 | thul | www |
| 17:36.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Lukian noes |
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| 17:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't have the color go from green to yellow to red with icehud |
| 17:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | now i need to look for a new one. |
| 17:37.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` rewrite ArcHud2 to not use metrognome. |
| 17:37.21 | Funkeh` | no |
| 17:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | well fuck you. |
| 17:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 17:37.47 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, is there one called dhud? |
| 17:37.48 | Funkeh` | You suck for using a HUD anyway! |
| 17:38.28 | thul | I'm trying now, I don't really see the point:P |
| 17:38.28 | Fisker- | hai Funkeh` |
| 17:38.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: i know. i hate huds. |
| 17:38.34 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 17:38.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: but i need SOME way to put my HP bars more central |
| 17:38.53 | kagaro | ~seen Tekkub |
| 17:38.54 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowhead (7m 40s) #wowace (7m 40s) #wowwiki (7m 40s), last said: 'my hordie's only 20, havn't tested that far yet'. |
| 17:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | sticking my unit frame into the middle of the screen just isn't cutting it |
| 17:39.00 | sag_ich_nicht | so make a better suggestion |
| 17:39.22 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Keep using ArcHUD2 ;) |
| 17:39.46 | Lukian | SunTsu, I don't think you know how much of a performance whore it is |
| 17:40.00 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu: never. it uses metrognome |
| 17:40.08 | sag_ich_nicht | metrognome is a performance whore |
| 17:40.09 | SunTsu | Lukian: I know, I use it myself |
| 17:40.20 | Kivin | sag_ich_nicht: Get a computer that doesn't suck |
| 17:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1368/2048MB (66.80%) RAM free. |
| 17:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, SB Live! 24-bit, and 544.86 GB of 1294.81 GB available on 2 drive(s). |
| 17:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i think my computer already has that qualification, Kivin. |
| 17:40.57 | Lukian | a hud should not be using more resources than a library :p |
| 17:40.58 | Kivin | okay, now that your ePeen has swollen big enough to fill the room, stop complaining about performance |
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| 17:41.40 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: How much performance does it cost you with that machine? |
| 17:41.46 | Funkeh` | Kivin, I think he was just trying to prove a statement against your shit comment |
| 17:42.01 | Lukian | jj |
| 17:42.12 | thul | kids |
| 17:42.14 | thul | behave |
| 17:42.15 | thul | or else |
| 17:42.38 | Kivin | Funkeh`, he's been slandering the addon for the last half hour. either his computer will run it, or it wont. |
| 17:42.46 | Funkeh` | k |
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| 17:43.46 | Chosi | hey there |
| 17:43.49 | kagaro | nevcairiel ping |
| 17:43.57 | Chosi | i need some addon that colors epic items differently |
| 17:44.12 | Kivin | Chosi: Colourblind issue? |
| 17:44.19 | Chosi | yeah |
| 17:44.22 | Kivin | Standby, please |
| 17:44.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:41] <SunTsu> sag_ich_nicht: How much performance does it cost you with that machine? <--~10 fps, i have a ton of addons |
| 17:44.44 | Chosi | can't see red too good and as the damn puples contain red |
| 17:44.50 | thul | hmm |
| 17:44.52 | Chosi | it's a pain in the ass to separate them from blues |
| 17:44.54 | Chosi | :\ |
| 17:44.57 | thul | dunno if I'll spec combat daggers or combat swords for tonight |
| 17:44.59 | Funkeh` | I find that too |
| 17:45.07 | Chosi | purples |
| 17:45.08 | Chosi | even |
| 17:45.12 | Funkeh` | It never really got to me though, I just ignore it |
| 17:45.23 | Funkeh` | Mostly because I don't care much, but meh ;p |
| 17:45.26 | Chosi | thul: daggers |
| 17:45.26 | Chosi | :) |
| 17:45.37 | thul | Chosi: you have to make an argument :-D |
| 17:45.37 | thul | why? |
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| 17:45.42 | Kivin | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/14/ <-- don't think that does what you need |
| 17:45.45 | Chosi | great white damage |
| 17:45.45 | Funkeh` | The thing I find anoying is herbs! |
| 17:45.46 | Chosi | fun |
| 17:46.01 | Funkeh` | some herbs can be hard to see in certain terain |
| 17:46.03 | Funkeh` | like un goro |
| 17:46.19 | thul | (I got s1 mh sword and s2 oh sword for combat swords, malchazeen and emerald ripper for combat dagger (as you already have realized: I LACK A FAST DAGGER)) |
| 17:46.22 | kagaro | golden samsan in zangar is hard as well |
| 17:46.26 | Kivin | Chosi: I stand corrected, it labels the bottom of a tooltip with "Uncommon", "Rare", so forth. Not exactly what you're looking for... |
| 17:46.33 | Chosi | oh damn i could have used the tradskill stuff |
| 17:46.41 | Chosi | but maxed all professions already |
| 17:46.41 | Chosi | hehe |
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| 17:47.05 | Chosi | well it's a start |
| 17:47.10 | Chosi | thanks :) |
| 17:47.47 | Kivin | Chosi: if you're familiar with Lua, try hooking GetItemQualityColor and returning a different value for epic quality items |
| 17:48.02 | Chosi | sounds like an idea |
| 17:48.03 | Chosi | aight |
| 17:48.09 | Gagorian | Funkeh`: Aren't all herbs sparkly and shit now? |
| 17:48.19 | Funkeh` | yep |
| 17:48.23 | Funkeh` | back in the day though |
| 17:48.27 | Funkeh` | they weren't ;p |
| 17:48.36 | kagaro | did you notice though sometiems 'grey' skill level herbs dont sparkle |
| 17:48.36 | Lukian | http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4871/wowscrnshot091407210616xb3.jpg @ sag_ich_nicht / Funkeh` |
| 17:48.37 | Gagorian | Yeah, blindweed was quite the opposite |
| 17:48.48 | Gagorian | as the name |
| 17:48.51 | Chosi | btw. i was asking this long before there were new minimap options for stuff |
| 17:48.52 | Lukian | (I later swtiched to no-ext and found the cause as metrognome) |
| 17:49.01 | Chosi | is it possible to hook the spawn of a dot on the map now? |
| 17:49.09 | Chosi | so i can make a sound for ores that appear or stuff? |
| 17:49.12 | Chosi | so i don't miss things |
| 17:49.17 | Funkeh` | No |
| 17:49.20 | Chosi | still not. |
| 17:49.22 | Chosi | damn. |
| 17:49.22 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: 10fps only for ArcHUD2? Well, that's much, you just have to decide whether it's too much and hinders you or whether you like the way it works and keep on using it |
| 17:49.52 | Lukian | SunTsu, might wanna see screenshot too :) |
| 17:49.56 | SunTsu | Gagorian: They are supposed to be sparkling, it does not to be the case all the time |
| 17:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:49] <SunTsu> sag_ich_nicht: 10fps only for ArcHUD2? Well, that's much, you just have to decide whether it's too much and hinders you or whether you like the way it works and keep on using it <--it's not archud2, it's Metrognome, which is used by ArcHUD2 |
| 17:50.23 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, ilu, and let me know if you find a usable hud because I'm pretty sure there aren't any |
| 17:50.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: ArcHUD2 is useable actually |
| 17:50.39 | sag_ich_nicht | problem is |
| 17:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it uses metrognome. |
| 17:50.54 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, alright, I think you got the point across. |
| 17:50.58 | SunTsu | Lukian: Why? I use ArcHUD2. I tried IceHUD, but did not like it, so I stayed with ArcHUD2 |
| 17:51.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 17:51.10 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: what's metrognome? |
| 17:51.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll try DHUD2 |
| 17:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: a shitty OnEvent timer manager |
| 17:51.32 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: for the castbar? |
| 17:51.35 | Lukian | SunTsu, to see the actual performance (loss) by using metrognome |
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| 17:52.03 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I feel your pain, I eliminated metrognome from my UI a while back and am refusing to allow it back in |
| 17:52.05 | Industrial | haha metrognome |
| 17:52.07 | Industrial | thats like |
| 17:52.09 | Industrial | 2 years old |
| 17:52.13 | Ellipsis | but yeah, there are no good huds |
| 17:52.13 | sag_ich_nicht | I KNOW |
| 17:52.14 | SunTsu | Lukian: Why do I care. It's a trade off. If it is worth then keep on using, if it is not get rid of it |
| 17:52.17 | thul | bah, when i disabeled aguf, the builtin party frames came back:( |
| 17:52.17 | thul | buhu |
| 17:52.29 | Kivin | Speaking of performance hogs, I need to figure out why Telo's Lootlink freezes my game down to 0 FPS for a very short period every time I fire a ranged shot. |
| 17:52.33 | bigzero | i wish they had more rings like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21190 in BC |
| 17:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: go and fix ArcHUD2 to not use Metrognome and use AceEvents then |
| 17:52.47 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:52.52 | Pkekyo| | what does metrognome actually do? |
| 17:52.58 | Lukian | Ellipsis, me too! |
| 17:53.04 | Funkeh` | Kivin, addons wiht large databases are always dodgy |
| 17:53.10 | Funkeh` | with* |
| 17:53.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: provide timers to addons |
| 17:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | like Chronos or AceEvents, except shitty |
| 17:53.33 | Kivin | Funkeh`: I used LootLink for two years or there abouts without *any* performance issues. Only in the last 3 months has it caused problems, and only since before christmas has it caused significant problems. |
| 17:53.43 | Zhinjio | HUDs aren't useful because they are in the center of the screen. HUDs are useful because they keep your health/mana info next to your target's. So ... uh ... move your unit frame next to your target's |
| 17:53.44 | Xinhuan | kivin, its because telo uses INVENTORY alerts |
| 17:53.47 | Lukian | lol, Tekkub wrote it? |
| 17:53.52 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: so basicly....castbar? |
| 17:54.03 | Kivin | Xinhuan: Of course it does. What I'm interested in is what it *does* from those alerts |
| 17:54.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: energy ticker, too, i'd guess |
| 17:54.05 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: Just HUDs are less intrusive |
| 17:54.07 | Funkeh` | For the 3 day period I used lootlink and itemsync over 1 yaer and a half ago, all I noticed was freezes |
| 17:54.07 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: you mean like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29305 |
| 17:54.15 | Funkeh` | I've never used an itemlink database addon since |
| 17:54.19 | Xinhuan | whenever your inventory changes, thegame fires a UNIT_INVENTORY_UPDATE, which causes telo's lootlink to scan and parse your entire bags + equipped |
| 17:54.23 | Xinhuan | all 120 items |
| 17:54.26 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 17:54.29 | Xinhuan | to add them into the database |
| 17:54.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that's retarded |
| 17:54.32 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 17:54.33 | Xinhuan | so you're doing it every arrow |
| 17:54.51 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, so DHUD2 is shitty too |
| 17:54.51 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58007 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 17:54.51 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 17:54.51 | CIA-8 | - Updated French translation (thanks, Tixu) |
| 17:55.03 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58008 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 17:55.03 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 17:55.03 | CIA-8 | - Added more documentation about exactly what effectiveHealth and effectiveHealthWithBlock are |
| 17:55.03 | CIA-8 | - Also pointed to Ciderhelm's reference, which is what's used for calculating EH/EHB. |
| 17:55.10 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I'm not 100% sure I buy that, but okay. |
| 17:55.16 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58009 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 17:55.16 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 17:55.16 | CIA-8 | - Better documentation for new formulae used |
| 17:55.16 | CIA-8 | - Fixed changing meaning of mobContactChance and mobHitChance |
| 17:55.17 | CIA-8 | - Your EHB may change due to this patch. It will now be closer to correct. |
| 17:55.19 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r58010 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 17:55.21 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 17:55.23 | CIA-8 | - Mob's chance to hit you was not calculated after combat table overflow checks. This has been fixed. You should now see Hit calculated correctly. You EHB may change from this patch. |
| 17:55.24 | Kivin | omg spam |
| 17:55.24 | Xinhuan | umm, i edit his addons to the point it isn't even his addon anymore |
| 17:55.32 | sag_ich_nicht | jesus christ is he doing every single |
| 17:55.37 | Xinhuan | his programming efficiency is near 0 |
| 17:55.39 | CIA-8 | ow |
| 17:55.48 | Xinhuan | and i mean Telo |
| 17:56.02 | Xinhuan | Saeris' Lootlink is far better |
| 17:56.06 | Xinhuan | and uses half as much memory |
| 17:56.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan go and do that with ArcHUD2 :( |
| 17:56.09 | Kivin | I started to rewrite Lootzor from scratch back in October and got sick of the project |
| 17:56.11 | thul | my guild seems broken :-( |
| 17:56.25 | Kivin | err Lootlink |
| 17:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Saeris' Lootlink is shit too, which is why he discarded it and rewrote it from scratch :P |
| 17:56.41 | Xinhuan | correct, but it was a huge improvement |
| 17:56.50 | Xinhuan | in both memory usage and |
| 17:56.51 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nichtXinhuan go and do that with ArcHUD2 <---- I'll sign that petition any day, the castbar is fuck-all retarded |
| 17:57.02 | Xinhuan | efficiency |
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| 17:57.24 | Kivin | memory isn't an issue for me. I don't care if my addons take up 80 megs of ram. but needlessly iterating over costly tasks on a regular basis isn't acceptable |
| 17:57.32 | sag_ich_nicht | argh MetaHUD uses Ace2 but isn't on the SVN |
| 17:57.36 | Xinhuan | go check the code if you don't believe me ;d |
| 17:57.46 | Xinhuan | i read a lot of source |
| 17:57.47 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r58011 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:57.47 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:57.47 | CIA-8 | - Spell: fixed Rampage translation for koKR |
| 17:57.47 | CIA-8 | - Tradeskill: koKR typo fix |
| 17:57.53 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I've read every single line of LootLink many timnes... but it's been 3 months. |
| 17:58.39 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god |
| 17:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it uses Tablet-2.0 |
| 17:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and RangeCheck-1.0 |
| 17:59.05 | what-K | capullo are u here ? |
| 17:59.32 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU DON'T NEED TO LIB EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN CALL IN THE DAMN GAME JESUS CHRIST WHY WOULD YOU LIB THE DAMN RANGE CHECK WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE |
| 17:59.33 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: I still hope you'll take a look at my code sometime and tell how much I suck |
| 17:59.33 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:59.41 | Xinhuan | sometime, someday ;d |
| 17:59.59 | Xinhuan | i plan to rewrite wowequip after 0.9 |
| 18:00.07 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, teh range checking is actually good imo |
| 18:00.11 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I still hope you'll never take a look at my code sometime and ridicule how much I suck :P |
| 18:00.24 | Xinhuan | because a lot of bits of code is old and needs rewriting |
| 18:00.31 | Ellipsis | it provides an abstraction for each class's specific abilities used for range checking |
| 18:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
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| 18:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ...okay who wrote the externals entries for atlasloot on the SVN? |
| 18:03.31 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, precisely...but i want something _I_ can get...so like a vendor item for like 5g with "can only be bought by bigzero" on it |
| 18:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | that person needs to be shot |
| 18:03.59 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, so many deps are messed up in addon toc files on wowace.. |
| 18:04.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 18:04.31 | Lukian | example: I uncheck fubar and half the fubar plugins don't say "dependency disabled" |
| 18:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 18:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 18:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that is intentional, actually |
| 18:04.54 | Xinhuan | that is intentional |
| 18:05.01 | Xinhuan | fubar plugins do NOT require fubar |
| 18:05.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it should only tell dependency disabled if you disable the fubarlib |
| 18:05.14 | Xinhuan | if fubar is not present, fubarplugin-2.0 will create minimap buttons for them |
| 18:05.17 | Lukian | let me find a better example |
| 18:05.17 | SunTsu | Lukian: Some addons work fine without fubar, using a minimap icon |
| 18:05.25 | Ellipsis | the ones that DO say "dependency disabled" are the wrong ones, 99% of the time |
| 18:05.28 | thul | 2700 ambush on plate:P |
| 18:05.53 | Lukian | ok, disable AuldLangSyne, and it's modules stay enabled :p |
| 18:05.59 | Pkekyo| | thul: godie |
| 18:06.01 | sag_ich_nicht | for christs sake waht was he doing |
| 18:06.05 | SunTsu | .o0( I wouldn't want to have 70 minimap icons, though ) |
| 18:06.32 | bigzero | but you can, so it's not a dependancy |
| 18:06.39 | Kivin | I asked my 2v2 partner yesterday if he was queued and he said he couldn't tell because he had too many minimap bubbles |
| 18:06.49 | thul | did I mention that i hate locks? |
| 18:06.51 | thul | hard? |
| 18:07.11 | Lukian | Kivin, ahaha! :D |
| 18:07.34 | bigzero | Arrowmaster...that ring is damn sexy...now i really want it |
| 18:07.36 | Kivin | I sat in the queue for literally 12 minutes with him not queued because of server issues and he never knew it because his flippin minimap was too full |
| 18:07.58 | Chompers | l2fubar |
| 18:08.08 | Kivin | l2remove minimap bubbles |
| 18:08.19 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 18:08.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not perfect |
| 18:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | the .toc is wrong |
| 18:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | but it will work because i'm awesome |
| 18:08.51 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, why don't you just write addons that don't suck |
| 18:08.57 | Ellipsis | you'd make your life (and mine) a whole lot easier |
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| 18:09.14 | bigzero | ooo, anyone know a good taking UI setup? looking for something where I can simultaneously keep track of my health/rage, mob health/buffs/debuffs, my buffs/debuffs and threat |
| 18:09.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: cba |
| 18:09.33 | bigzero | without having to look all over the screen |
| 18:09.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you see, i'm a perfectionist, which means i wouldn't do anything but code and code and code etc. without actually ever playing |
| 18:09.55 | Chompers | pitbull does most of that bigzero |
| 18:10.22 | bigzero | Chompers, will check it out, thanks |
| 18:10.52 | Pkekyo| | thul: less QQ, more pewpew :p |
| 18:10.54 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: dammit, we'd make a good team |
| 18:11.20 | MoonWitch | so I am not the only one, though I took a break to level :P |
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| 18:11.39 | thul | Pkekyo|:P hard with locks and discipline priests tbh |
| 18:11.42 | thul | or.. hard == impossible. |
| 18:12.03 | MoonWitch | I don't think I've ever seen a Discipline priest >.< |
| 18:12.06 | Pkekyo| | thul: like I said, less QQ, more PEWPEW |
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| 18:15.14 | Lukian | MoonWitch, there's a ton since the last patch |
| 18:15.18 | thul | pew pew enough? :-P |
| 18:15.28 | thul | haha |
| 18:15.48 | charon | is there a way to refer to raid MT targets as a unitID? |
| 18:15.49 | Lukian | making it even harder to find good shadow priests for 5mans |
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| 18:16.09 | thul | hwho wants a shadowpriest for 5-.mans anyway? :-P |
| 18:16.15 | sag_ich_nicht | there, now i hope that .toc works for MetaHUD |
| 18:16.15 | MoonWitch | Lukian: on Tanaris most I've seen are shadow priests |
| 18:16.15 | Kivin | o/ |
| 18:16.21 | Lukian | thul, all the time |
| 18:16.28 | Lukian | they rule |
| 18:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | should, if i got all the Lib names right |
| 18:16.31 | thul | pfft:P |
| 18:16.46 | thul | warrior, rogue, priest/pala, mage and lock ftw :-P |
| 18:16.51 | sag_ich_nicht | (CAN WE GET A FUCKING LIB LISTING WITH ADDON & LIB NAME SOMEWHERE PLEASE THANKS) |
| 18:16.58 | MoonWitch | I made a holy priest, and well in bg they happily announce "you heal everyone" and the next line "don't bother taking people of her, let her die" |
| 18:17.06 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: write one? :p |
| 18:17.10 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 18:17.12 | NivFreak | MoonWitch: haha |
| 18:17.20 | thul | less whining, more pew pew sag_ich_nicht :-P |
| 18:17.22 | Lukian | change rogue to shadow priest and/or warrior to druid/protadin ;d |
| 18:17.24 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: caps-lock is cruise control for cool |
| 18:17.33 | MoonWitch | needless to say, I wasn't healing the ass who said that :P |
| 18:17.45 | Pkekyo| | thul: fail @ less QQ more PEWPEW |
| 18:17.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo| no time |
| 18:17.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:17.47 | Lukian | my housemate had 2 shadow priests in shattered halls a week ago |
| 18:17.52 | thul | Pkekyo|:P |
| 18:17.52 | Lukian | most fun run ever |
| 18:17.58 | thul | btw, is there a fp at aldor rise? |
| 18:17.59 | Lukian | only cc was MC |
| 18:18.00 | sag_ich_nicht | writing this new .toc already cost me more time than i liked |
| 18:18.11 | thul | hah |
| 18:18.17 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: there's always time, just bitch a few minutes less every day about shitty tocs :p |
| 18:18.18 | thul | I outdps any shadow priest with my rogue :-P |
| 18:18.30 | Rayden | tier? |
| 18:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well DUH you're a rogue. |
| 18:18.36 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: you know, the other day I put together a pseudo-HUD out of eepanels because I was that desperate |
| 18:18.45 | Lukian | thul, because you outgear them? :p |
| 18:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: haha |
| 18:18.50 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis: lol |
| 18:19.01 | thul | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: well we'll see if MetaHUD can do what I want |
| 18:19.16 | thul | and that is how it should be :-P rogues should be single target dps king |
| 18:19.23 | MoonWitch | for my rogue I use a hud .. for the rest I don't |
| 18:19.45 | Rayden | spriests aren't supposed to compete with rogues, warlocks, mages for dps |
| 18:19.53 | Rayden | we bring other things in addition |
| 18:19.58 | thul | ofc |
| 18:20.04 | thul | and that is partially why rogues _should_ be top dps |
| 18:20.07 | kagaro | <-- usually 5th on the list spriest |
| 18:20.08 | thul | they aren't good for much else. |
| 18:20.18 | Rayden | didn't blizzard at one point say rogues were supposed to be top dps for single target? |
| 18:20.24 | Josh_Borke | <-- usually 1st on the list of spriest |
| 18:20.24 | thul | yes.. |
| 18:20.29 | thul | blues keep telling us that |
| 18:20.32 | Lukian | thul, group healing and mana gains :p |
| 18:20.37 | kagaro | our locks out dps me |
| 18:20.45 | thul | Lukian: I know, when I'm heealing as paladin, I love shadow priests |
| 18:20.46 | MoonWitch | do all you healer personas use click casting in raids and bg? |
| 18:20.47 | thul | I never go oom |
| 18:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 18:21.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't get any error messages at last and i'm seeing a fubar plugin |
| 18:21.04 | Lukian | MoonWitch, yes |
| 18:21.15 | MoonWitch | Lukian: Clique? or something else? |
| 18:21.23 | Lukian | click2cast |
| 18:21.26 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: elaborate on that eepanels hud of yours? :p |
| 18:21.32 | Lukian | clique is nice though |
| 18:21.38 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: it's just a hack |
| 18:21.38 | Rayden | i outdps our rogue in most fights though |
| 18:21.41 | Lukian | but I like keybinding and macro support |
| 18:21.53 | MoonWitch | Clique is nice, but I only use it to heal |
| 18:22.01 | MoonWitch | so helpful only |
| 18:22.13 | Rayden | i'm guessing our rogue is specced poorly though |
| 18:22.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 18:22.19 | Josh_Borke | MoonWitch: agreed |
| 18:22.24 | Rayden | what's the command to link from armory? |
| 18:22.26 | Rayden | !u ? |
| 18:22.27 | Lukian | MoonWitch, i use it for things like hunter aspects and traps (keybinds) |
| 18:22.31 | Ozguli | rogues aren't good in anything else but being noskill |
| 18:22.32 | Rayden | !u help |
| 18:22.34 | Rayden | !help |
| 18:22.43 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: elaborate further? :p |
| 18:22.50 | Pkekyo| | how'd you do it? |
| 18:23.11 | Lukian | MoonWitch, what's your healer's class? :D |
| 18:23.12 | Ellipsis | each bar gets two panels, a base and a bar |
| 18:23.14 | MoonWitch | Lukian I usually resort to left click - this trap right click that trap through /macro |
| 18:23.35 | MoonWitch | I have a Pally 46 almost 21 holy 15 retri and a holy priest |
| 18:23.36 | Ellipsis | each bar is parented to its base and I wrote a quick script to change its height as a % of its base, based on the % of health/mana/whatever |
| 18:23.53 | Pkekyo| | clever |
| 18:24.13 | Lukian | MoonWitch, 21 holy is hybrid win :D |
| 18:24.28 | MoonWitch | but the priest is lvl21 at this point, she was made because 1. I went on a raid with my pally and loved the healing of it (lvl 41 to UC anyone? lol) and 2. my guild needs healers bad |
| 18:24.52 | MoonWitch | I liked my pally more retri, but I can't have it all, we already have a retri pally on 70 |
| 18:25.23 | NivFreak | priests are a blast to heal with |
| 18:25.30 | NivFreak | so much flexibility |
| 18:25.47 | chiper | sup niv |
| 18:25.51 | NivFreak | and shadow is fun if you need a change of pace ;) |
| 18:25.54 | MoonWitch | right now, I mainly team up with a fellow pally. She casts and judges Seal of Wisdom, me Seal of Light. its a nice combo |
| 18:26.09 | NeoTron | NivFreak: flexible? Man all you have is PoM, flash heal, gheal, renew, prayer of healing, pw:shield and perhaps holy nova and CoH |
| 18:26.10 | sag_ich_nicht | okay metahud does the colors the way i want them |
| 18:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 18:26.13 | NeoTron | you call that flexible? ;-) |
| 18:26.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it looks horrible. |
| 18:26.24 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB IceHUD graphics in MetaHUD |
| 18:26.27 | NivFreak | NeoTron: hehe |
| 18:26.39 | NivFreak | don't forget the other healing spells I never use! |
| 18:26.41 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: what does IceHUD look like? :p |
| 18:26.42 | NeoTron | you'd think from some priests though, that all they have is flash heal |
| 18:26.43 | NivFreak | heal! lesser heal! |
| 18:26.57 | Lukian | http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7256/click2castpaladinla6.png @ MoonWitch :D |
| 18:27.02 | NeoTron | we had such a priest - he used nothing but flash heal and thus sucked badly |
| 18:27.03 | Lukian | (alt is for selfcast) |
| 18:27.06 | NivFreak | chiper: just trying to settle back into work after 2 weeks off |
| 18:27.18 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I sort of consider using flash heal a failure on my part ;) |
| 18:27.23 | MoonWitch | less threat and less mana |
| 18:27.39 | NivFreak | FoL is great until you deal with real dmg |
| 18:27.39 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:27.40 | Fisker- | clique > you Lukian |
| 18:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:26] <Pkekyo|> sag_ich_nicht: what does IceHUD look like? :p <--nice |
| 18:27.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:28.01 | Lukian | Fisker-, it can't do alt selfcast or.. (standby) :p |
| 18:28.15 | Ellipsis | meh, never did like the look of icehud myself |
| 18:28.20 | NivFreak | I wish my PoMs were picked up by WWS |
| 18:28.22 | MoonWitch | NivFreak: yeah I know, but when it is at all possible I prefer using FoL when someone else is tanking to not stral threat |
| 18:28.23 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: thanks for the highly informative and explanatory comment |
| 18:28.24 | Ellipsis | prefer the archud graphics |
| 18:28.33 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: I think there's a screenie on the wiki page |
| 18:28.52 | NivFreak | MoonWitch: if your tank loses threat to your heals (and you don't have RF up) they are a failure |
| 18:29.13 | NivFreak | paladins have such huge threat reduction |
| 18:29.14 | *** part/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=chris@moobilenet-58-151.ucdavis.edu) |
| 18:29.21 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: I tried, but suck at finding wiki pages xD |
| 18:29.27 | MoonWitch | NivFreak: true .. but I prefer to cover for their failure instead of getting it all a wiped :P |
| 18:29.28 | Pkekyo| | archud graphics are full of win and awesom |
| 18:29.28 | Pkekyo| | e |
| 18:29.48 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so metahud has the functions i want |
| 18:29.49 | NivFreak | MoonWitch: I mean like total, don't run with the tank failure :) |
| 18:29.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and icehud the look i want |
| 18:29.53 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
| 18:29.55 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 18:30.40 | MoonWitch | only did 1 raid with an awesome tank .. she got most of my heals, since our holy priest didn't )&(^£" do shit but sit (yes sit) |
| 18:30.49 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: here's one look of it: http://image.playforum.net:8080/column/10151008/6869/8.jpg |
| 18:31.03 | chiper | niv: how's arfy, haven't seen her in a while |
| 18:31.06 | Ellipsis | there's also other skins e.g. http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/3/34/Icehud1.jpg |
| 18:31.15 | Pkekyo| | meh, archud looks alot better |
| 18:31.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:29] <NivFreak> paladins have such huge threat reduction <--what? |
| 18:31.29 | sag_ich_nicht | are you retarded? |
| 18:31.29 | Rayden | PoM makes priest healing more fun |
| 18:31.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm still second in SSC after the tank |
| 18:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ALWAYS |
| 18:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | AFTER the threat redux. |
| 18:31.55 | Rayden | sag_ich_nicht you have more threat than shadow priests? |
| 18:32.04 | Rayden | i'm always 2nd after the tank :P |
| 18:32.11 | Rayden | but i guess i do outgear most of my guildmates |
| 18:32.13 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 18:32.13 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot something there |
| 18:32.23 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking stupid |
| 18:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 18:32.31 | sag_ich_nicht | nevermind, yeah you do more threat :P |
| 18:32.36 | Fisker- | reported Ellipsis |
| 18:32.37 | sag_ich_nicht | NOW FIND ME A BETTER HUD |
| 18:32.37 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 18:32.50 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 18:32.55 | Kivin | NO U |
| 18:32.58 | Ellipsis | I can't find a screenshot of the skin I liked |
| 18:32.59 | Lukian | Fisker-, when clique can do this, sure :p http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2070/wowscrnshot010808053203hi0.jpg |
| 18:33.04 | Ellipsis | apparently nobody else uses it |
| 18:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis I want icehud but with changing colors depending on HP |
| 18:33.32 | Josh_Borke | how is pressing Alt+Ctrl+F clicking? |
| 18:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | fading from green to yellow to red :( |
| 18:33.37 | Fisker- | i don't know Josh_Borke |
| 18:33.46 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: then code it :) |
| 18:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no :( |
| 18:34.00 | CIA-8 | 03Tristan * r58012 10Enhancer/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:34.00 | CIA-8 | Enhancer: |
| 18:34.00 | CIA-8 | - Added a reset command to the AP Gauge |
| 18:34.07 | Ellipsis | there was another hud in the works that sounded really promising |
| 18:34.09 | Lukian | Josh_Borke, chuckle |
| 18:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis name? |
| 18:34.15 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: keypresses act the same as mouse clicks in Click2Cast |
| 18:34.16 | Ellipsis | but I haven't heard any recent status updates |
| 18:34.21 | Ellipsis | jahud, I think? |
| 18:34.24 | Ellipsis | mecdemort was writing it |
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| 18:34.57 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 18:35.23 | Ellipsis | Lukian: why not just use a binding mod to do that |
| 18:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | hmm |
| 18:35.48 | Lukian | Ellipsis, isn't that what i'm doing? :) |
| 18:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try if i hack DHUD2 a bit |
| 18:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | to fit what i want to do |
| 18:36.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *if i can |
| 18:36.18 | chiper | Ellipsis, DaHUD? |
| 18:36.32 | Ellipsis | no chiper, two different things :P |
| 18:36.37 | Ellipsis | jahud: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9382.0 |
| 18:37.01 | Ellipsis | Lukian: you're using a click-casting addon for...binding spells |
| 18:37.05 | Ellipsis | that's not click-casting x.x |
| 18:37.27 | Lukian | can you suggest an addon which offers the same functionality and is as easy to use? |
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| 18:37.43 | Ellipsis | personally I use spellbinder for binding spells that way |
| 18:37.44 | chiper | sigh, no screens. |
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| 18:40.22 | Ellipsis | chiper: as I understand it, it's pretty far from usable, so I wouldn't expect any screenshots yet...and I don't think anyone's made textures for it, in fact |
| 18:40.33 | chiper | ah |
| 18:40.35 | Ellipsis | so there's probably nothing to really take pictures of o.O |
| 18:41.03 | chiper | so, it's a hud, minus the actuall display part |
| 18:41.44 | Ellipsis | well from that post it sounds like he has a lot of the code put together or at least planned out |
| 18:41.49 | Ellipsis | so yeah, I guess |
| 18:42.37 | sag_ich_nicht | oh oh oh oh |
| 18:42.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis try DHUD2 |
| 18:43.03 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, you got it working nicely? |
| 18:43.13 | Lukian | i've been meaning to try it |
| 18:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | currently playing around |
| 18:44.07 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: how is it better than the others? |
| 18:44.33 | Ellipsis | I recall ditching it because it wouldn't let me arrange bars the way I wanted to |
| 18:44.40 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 18:44.41 | sag_ich_nicht | errors |
| 18:44.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i noticed that too |
| 18:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 18:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | since i'm awesome |
| 18:44.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm just overcoming that weakness using fluidframes |
| 18:45.16 | Ellipsis | apparently I'm the only person in the world who likes: pet health, pet mana, player health, player mana, (gap), target health, target mana |
| 18:45.26 | Rayden | in one frame? |
| 18:45.40 | thul | i want target hp/mana/rage/energy on the OTHER side |
| 18:45.45 | thul | not my hp and target hp on the same :-( |
| 18:45.49 | Rayden | oh HUD? |
| 18:45.50 | Ellipsis | yeah, exactly thul |
| 18:45.53 | Rayden | i couldn't get into using a HUD |
| 18:45.58 | Ellipsis | I want target on the right, player on the left |
| 18:46.01 | Ellipsis | with pet to the left of the player |
| 18:46.06 | sag_ich_nicht | mwhahahahahaha i can just move the frames around whatever the hell i feel like |
| 18:46.07 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 18:46.10 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 18:46.35 | Sais | pitbull? |
| 18:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.cosmosui.org/addons.php?info=FluidFrames |
| 18:47.21 | sag_ich_nicht | now shut up, there isn't any OTHER addon that does frame moving properly |
| 18:48.03 | Sais | What does "properly" mean in that context? :D *ducks* |
| 18:48.05 | Lukian | moveanything? ;d |
| 18:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | moveanything sucks. |
| 18:48.27 | thul | what is the difference? :-P |
| 18:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Sais: without breaking while loging in in combat, catching all dynamicially created frames etc. |
| 18:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | moveanything can go DIAF because it sucks |
| 18:49.04 | thul | "why? :-P |
| 18:49.14 | Kivin | You're awful critical of other peoples' addons |
| 18:49.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i already stated that |
| 18:49.19 | Lukian | moveanything has some serious taint ;d |
| 18:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin yes i am. |
| 18:49.24 | sag_ich_nicht | also what Lukian said |
| 18:49.25 | Merl | can't move unitframes in combat due to the secure stuff... =) |
| 18:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Merl: the point is that moveanything tries, DOESN'T delay it's tries and then just silently fails |
| 18:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | so: it can go DIAF, also, it doesn't catch dynamic frames properly |
| 18:50.03 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, I know I said this earlier but I just want to state it again |
| 18:50.05 | Ellipsis | I love you. |
| 18:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
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| 18:50.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: just created a keybind and you can move (nearly) everything |
| 18:50.43 | ckknight | I want the lovings |
| 18:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | only thing you can't move is dynamically created frames with no name |
| 18:50.51 | Merl | possible to work arround tho, but way would you want to move them in comat sag_ich_nicht? |
| 18:50.54 | Ellipsis | well then make me a HUD that doesn't suck |
| 18:50.56 | Ellipsis | k ckknight? |
| 18:51.00 | Kivin | Fix pitbull and you can have my lovings |
| 18:51.15 | Lukian | recode archud using rock |
| 18:51.54 | MoonWitch | does anyone in here happen to know what UI-Debuff-Overlays.blp also holds a circle in addition to the normal square buff border? |
| 18:52.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Merl: i don't. but if i log in while in combat(disconnect during raiding e.g.) and login again i don't wanna be greeted by a million error messages and then have miss arranged frames until i /reloadui while out of combat |
| 18:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | now lern2read |
| 18:52.24 | sag_ich_nicht | because you're failing it atm |
| 18:52.32 | Merl | I'm working on a HUD ATM, but don't have a SVN account yet. |
| 18:52.37 | ckknight | Kivin: what's the issue? |
| 18:52.49 | thul | sag_ich_nicht is just bitter people, accept it and move on :-) |
| 18:52.54 | Merl | sag_ich_nicht: hehe, know the feeling =) no frames pop up and stuff... |
| 18:52.57 | thul | he'll grow out of it eventually :-P |
| 18:53.14 | Kivin | ckknight: Allow UFs to inherit colours from other UFs. Fix the right-click rockconfig popup. Get profiling working. |
| 18:53.18 | Kivin | And you can have my love |
| 18:53.26 | ckknight | I fixed profiles |
| 18:53.41 | Kivin | Really? |
| 18:53.43 | ckknight | yesterday |
| 18:53.46 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 18:53.56 | Lukian | I saw the commits in -cia ! |
| 18:53.59 | Lukian | yes he did |
| 18:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i have the two keybinds on . and , |
| 18:54.24 | Kivin | I must have Pitbull on ignore because i fix0red the right-clickiness |
| 18:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | for fucks sake, DHUD2 doesn't have an energy ticker |
| 18:55.11 | Ellipsis | you're not a rogue, get over it :P |
| 18:55.13 | Kivin | Hmm... no I don't. How strange. |
| 18:55.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: my rogue is level 63, stfu :> |
| 18:55.58 | Kivin | ckknight: Was the commit in PitBull or LibRockDB |
| 18:56.05 | Stanzilla | Kivin: it was a RockDB bug, nut pitbull |
| 18:56.08 | ckknight | LibRockDB |
| 18:56.08 | Stanzilla | moo |
| 18:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's 0/0/54. don't argue with the spec, i know it's crap. i still oneshot lvl 70 mages. |
| 18:56.13 | Kivin | oooooo |
| 18:56.32 | Kivin | Okay, I saw _that_ but couldn't get Fisheye up since svn was being all bonkers |
| 18:56.37 | Kivin | <3 ckknight |
| 18:56.53 | Kivin | ckknight: Where in the database are the custom bar colours stored? |
| 18:57.04 | Kivin | I searched for an hour the last time we discussed it and couldn't find them |
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| 18:57.18 | ckknight | Kivin: not sure |
| 18:57.38 | NivFreak | sag_ich_nicht: paladins have a 50% passive threat reduction last I checked |
| 18:57.44 | Kivin | [73G5] It's a mystery to everyone |
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| 18:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: nope, they don't. |
| 18:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: last time I checked, we had a 30% threat reduction buff that EVERYONE gets and ret paladins have a 30% threat reduction. |
| 18:59.00 | NivFreak | sag_ich_nicht: before 1.9 it was a .25 multiplier |
| 18:59.02 | Lukian | anyone know of questlog addons which a similar tracker o nQuestLog? (shows all the quests in current zone) |
| 18:59.03 | Kivin | ckknight: How much would it take to implement a child_passValueN in groups in RockConfig? |
| 18:59.08 | NivFreak | I thought post 1.9 it went to .5 |
| 18:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak |
| 18:59.20 | ckknight | Kivin: I thought I already put that in |
| 18:59.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you are talking about heal aggro |
| 18:59.25 | Ellipsis | Lukian: beql, questsfu |
| 18:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | not general aggro |
| 18:59.29 | NivFreak | right |
| 18:59.30 | NivFreak | heal aggro |
| 18:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | get the fuck out you foolish noob |
| 18:59.36 | NivFreak | I was responding to your comment out |
| 18:59.36 | sag_ich_nicht | before i devour you |
| 18:59.37 | NivFreak | er |
| 18:59.39 | NivFreak | comment earlier |
| 18:59.41 | Lukian | Ellipsis, thankie:) |
| 18:59.42 | Kivin | ckknight: THat something relatively recent? I had an elaborate discusion about it not being in there around the beginning of december |
| 18:59.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. i wasn' |
| 18:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | t talking about heal aggro back then tho. |
| 18:59.51 | NivFreak | I said that if he got HEAL aggro over a tank |
| 18:59.53 | NivFreak | they failed |
| 18:59.56 | NivFreak | I was :P |
| 18:59.58 | sag_ich_nicht | so: GET THE HELL OUT AND LERN2READ |
| 19:00.02 | ckknight | Kivin: not all that recent |
| 19:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 19:00.06 | NivFreak | perhaps you need to learn to read :P |
| 19:00.08 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 19:00.21 | Kivin | ckknight: Is it child_passValueN or just passValueN |
| 19:00.34 | ckknight | depends on if you want the child to get it or not |
| 19:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | gah i'll just use IceHUD for now |
| 19:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | only decent looking HUD that has an energy ticker and doesn't use metrognome |
| 19:01.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 19:02.06 | Kivin | I'll have to give that a shot |
| 19:02.16 | Kivin | That drove me absolutely ballistic when I was writing... uhh... something |
| 19:02.40 | Kivin | I ended up setting the passValue1 of all my childs to the same valeu |
| 19:02.42 | Kivin | value* |
| 19:03.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: oh also fluidframes will make all the standardframes dragable, like the charwindow/spellbook/etc. |
| 19:03.37 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: remembering their positions when you open them in the future? |
| 19:03.50 | Ellipsis | also I thought you couldn't allow the spellbook to be dragged without tainting badly |
| 19:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you CAN do that, if you reposition them using the keybind |
| 19:04.01 | ckknight | Kivin: not passValue1 |
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| 19:04.08 | ckknight | Kivin: there's passValue and passValue2 |
| 19:04.10 | Kivin | err passValue |
| 19:04.14 | Kivin | that's what I meant. It's been a while. |
| 19:04.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you can't. but AnduinLothar uses some clever tricks for it, iirc :P |
| 19:04.17 | thul | http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/517/dsc00230pe7.jpg <- I have to learn not to look at the "real life photos"-threads |
| 19:04.25 | Lukian | what's a good item database, I need inline copletio |
| 19:04.34 | Ellipsis | oh that's hot thul |
| 19:04.41 | thul | erhm? :-P |
| 19:04.41 | thul | hot? |
| 19:04.42 | Lukian | inline chat completion* |
| 19:04.57 | thul | "hey, I've been living in a consentration camp the last few years" :-P |
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| 19:04.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10724.msg169838;topicseen#new |
| 19:05.00 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:05.02 | Xinhuan | at the last reply |
| 19:05.11 | Xinhuan | its a "semi-polite flame" |
| 19:06.18 | Kivin | multi-boxers are retarded |
| 19:06.39 | Ellipsis | hay be nice |
| 19:06.46 | thul | especially the female ones |
| 19:06.47 | NivFreak | Kivin: why? |
| 19:06.49 | thul | they are dirty old hags |
| 19:06.50 | thul | :-( |
| 19:07.07 | thul | haha |
| 19:07.10 | Kivin | Let me clarify that sweeping statement. Multiboxers that do it to pvp with 5 chars at once are retarded. |
| 19:07.16 | NivFreak | why? |
| 19:07.20 | Ellipsis | yes, PvP multiboxing is dumb |
| 19:07.24 | Ellipsis | but PvP in general is dumb |
| 19:07.26 | NivFreak | I think it's great |
| 19:07.28 | NivFreak | hah |
| 19:07.31 | Ellipsis | therefore, you're all dumb! :) |
| 19:07.57 | Kivin | Should be considered an exploit IMHO |
| 19:08.10 | Ellipsis | PvE multiboxing is really really fun though |
| 19:08.15 | Ellipsis | it's challenging, but you're not really hurting anyone by doing it |
| 19:08.18 | _neuron_ | wth is multiboxing |
| 19:08.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Kivin: not an exploit, get out noob |
| 19:08.46 | Kivin | sag_ich_nicht: suck my coq |
| 19:08.54 | Lukian | _neuron_, go read wowwiki |
| 19:09.00 | _neuron_ | aww |
| 19:09.01 | Kivin | _neuron_: Multiboxing is running multiple instances of a game at the same time |
| 19:09.02 | _neuron_ | that requires effort |
| 19:09.10 | _neuron_ | oh |
| 19:09.15 | NivFreak | I have no problem with multiboxing, but it's too much of a hassle to do it in pvp |
| 19:09.23 | _neuron_ | pvp multiboxing seems a bit... odd though .P |
| 19:09.24 | Ellipsis | or using multiple physical computers...which works better imo |
| 19:09.27 | NivFreak | chiper: arfy is fine, she's busy being a mom lately |
| 19:09.55 | Kivin | _neuron_: And in WoW, Multiboxing carries with it the implication that the user is using some 3rd party software to duplicate their keypresses to each instance of the game |
| 19:10.18 | ckknight | not necessarily |
| 19:10.19 | _neuron_ | that's about as complicated as I've made that :P |
| 19:10.25 | Ellipsis | Kivin: that's not required though |
| 19:10.32 | Ellipsis | and it doesn't work well with mismatched classes/specs anyway |
| 19:10.38 | thul | bah |
| 19:10.40 | chiper | niv: kewl, let her know I say hi |
| 19:10.41 | thul | no guilds needs rogues :-( |
| 19:10.42 | thul | *cry |
| 19:10.47 | Xinhuan | you can split keyboard inputs to multiple cpus |
| 19:10.49 | Kivin | I've heard of 5 gnome mages running around 5x pyroblasting things |
| 19:10.50 | Ellipsis | that's because rogues are useless |
| 19:11.21 | Ellipsis | just sayin' |
| 19:11.22 | Ellipsis | you know it's true |
| 19:11.29 | thul | pfft |
| 19:11.30 | thul | ofc not |
| 19:11.32 | thul | rogues rock |
| 19:11.39 | Kivin | Needs moar Retribution Paladins IMO |
| 19:11.53 | thul | haha |
| 19:11.59 | Ellipsis | dps warrs unite |
| 19:12.04 | Ellipsis | rogues in plate > rogues in leather |
| 19:12.13 | thul | haha |
| 19:12.14 | Ellipsis | mmm, moar |
| 19:12.19 | thul | like dps-wars can come even close to my dps:P |
| 19:12.21 | thul | mohahahahahahahahaha |
| 19:12.21 | Lukian | beql multipanes my quest log.. |
| 19:12.29 | Ellipsis | Lukian: you can disable that |
| 19:12.35 | Ellipsis | I don't remember how, but it was in there somewhere |
| 19:12.36 | Lukian | ah good :D |
| 19:12.43 | Lukian | I'll hunt it down.. |
| 19:12.43 | Ellipsis | just poke around in your options a bit |
| 19:13.25 | thul | went to forex today |
| 19:13.30 | thul | to get some egyptian pounds |
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| 19:13.37 | thul | they all smell like sweaty arab :-( |
| 19:14.06 | osstia_ | I don't know that I would recognize the smell of sweaty arab |
| 19:14.16 | Kivin | I sure hope I wouldn't |
| 19:14.30 | Lukian | Ellipsis, does it offer the "work omp |
| 19:14.32 | Lukian | compl |
| 19:14.39 | Lukian | arg keyboard |
| 19:14.46 | Lukian | "work completed" orc peon sound? :D |
| 19:15.38 | Lukian | aww it doesn't |
| 19:15.53 | chiper | no, it was the alliance guys that said work completed, the orcs just said "Jobs Done!" |
| 19:16.06 | osstia_ | ^^ |
| 19:16.09 | osstia_ | zug zug |
| 19:16.10 | _neuron_ | yeah but the work completed sound is better :P |
| 19:16.31 | NeoTron | so yeah, T6 gear is nice |
| 19:16.36 | _neuron_ | I actually had a request to make that change depending on alliance/horde though :P |
| 19:16.50 | NeoTron | we cleared SSC with one wipe on vashj that cost us like 20m in just under 3 hrs |
| 19:17.35 | NeoTron | thul: rogues are nice on Reliquary of Souls :P |
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| 19:18.27 | _neuron_ | ckknight, have you looked at why Cartographer_GroupColors is broken in battlegrounds btw? I've been looking some of it, was sure I had it working, and then I broke it in another BG. |
| 19:18.33 | thul | rogues are always nice :-( |
| 19:18.37 | thul | and i want a guild :-P |
| 19:18.38 | ckknight | I've not |
| 19:19.05 | _neuron_ | it works if you turn the module off and on again, and then it works until the end of the session |
| 19:19.09 | NivFreak | so twice now, we've had a mage pull aggro off the tank on nightbane, when he was the #3-4 spot on omen |
| 19:19.13 | NivFreak | and not at risk |
| 19:19.14 | Kivin | ckknight Is busy making colours get included in layouts. Right, ckknight? |
| 19:19.35 | ckknight | I'm reading slashdot and waiting for my dad to call |
| 19:19.42 | Kivin | D:! |
| 19:19.44 | ckknight | I have to go work with him |
| 19:19.50 | ckknight | and I don't wanna |
| 19:19.55 | Kivin | D:!! |
| 19:20.18 | Kivin | Is it safe to believe that custom colours are stored in PitBull.db.profile? |
| 19:20.31 | MoonWitch | poor ckknight |
| 19:20.50 | MoonWitch | I am sure that if you need therapy afterwards, he'll pay for it |
| 19:22.46 | clad|away | Ellipsis: Can't help but agree with you, Clique is for click-casting, and binding spells to keypresses isn't click-casting |
| 19:22.47 | clad|away | *shrug* |
| 19:22.58 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 19:23.01 | NeoTron | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/07/1527213&from=rss - I read that as "Russie to Search for Life in Europa" |
| 19:23.02 | MoonWitch | hey clad! |
| 19:23.06 | clad|away | MoonWitch: hi |
| 19:23.09 | Ellipsis | one by one, I shall convert all to my way of thinking |
| 19:23.10 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 19:23.20 | Lukian | Ellipsis, does bEQL track more than 5 quests? |
| 19:23.42 | MoonWitch | lol I just want +5 quests in my tracker, other then that I am good to go :P |
| 19:24.04 | MoonWitch | Lukian I believe it does though |
| 19:24.05 | NeoTron | s/Europa/Europe/ |
| 19:24.13 | Ellipsis | Lukian: yeah, it can track all quests like nql does |
| 19:24.21 | Ellipsis | just out of curiosity, why are you replacing nql? |
| 19:25.09 | Lukian | it doesn't follow the 'new standard' for quest level |
| 19:25.16 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.35 | FtH|Daemona | i... want ... one ... http://www.tomshardware.com/de/Alienware-Display-CES-Ruckprojektion,news-240320.html |
| 19:25.38 | clad|away | should be using Quelevel anyway |
| 19:25.48 | Ellipsis | Lukian: why is that such a big deal anyway? o.O |
| 19:26.28 | Lukian | Ellipsis, not particularly, but the quest tracker was annoying me a little too :) |
| 19:26.39 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 19:26.39 | kergoth | is PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD called before or after you're actually in the instance, when zoning into one? |
| 19:26.48 | Ellipsis | you might find questsfu to be more along the lines of what you're looking for |
| 19:26.55 | Ellipsis | it's more similar to nql than beql was, in my experience |
| 19:26.57 | Xinhuan | does that matter kergoth? |
| 19:27.40 | Pkekyo| | moo |
| 19:27.43 | kergoth | well, i want to behave differently when zoning into vs zoning out of the instance. so the question is whether IsInInstance will report the new state or the old one in that event handler |
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| 19:27.52 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 19:27.59 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:28.18 | cladhaire | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Quelevel/ |
| 19:28.35 | MoonWitch | Quelevel is pretty damn good |
| 19:28.51 | kergoth | Xinhuan: i have moneys for the first time since playing wow, thanks to jc :D 5k cash, 5k in uncut blue gems, so far. getting there |
| 19:28.58 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:29.15 | MoonWitch | nice kergoth |
| 19:29.32 | MoonWitch | I have about 700 like that .. about 300 in uncut living ruby |
| 19:29.37 | MoonWitch | gotta love Darkmoon faire :P |
| 19:29.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:30.01 | MoonWitch | I bought for 200g .. |
| 19:30.08 | Drew | how to do begin/end of string pattern matching in lua? (or do i have to do compare value to length of string to do end of string matching?) |
| 19:30.16 | MoonWitch | spent heaps on fiery and mats for other professions .. but still very very nice |
| 19:30.17 | Xinhuan | $ = end |
| 19:30.20 | Xinhuan | ^ = start |
| 19:30.48 | Drew | thanks |
| 19:30.58 | FtH|Daemona | is there an addon automating the Darkmoon faire shopping? ;) |
| 19:31.48 | MoonWitch | I tried to get the timing of the respawns |
| 19:32.04 | MoonWitch | but I couldn't get a grip on it, mainly because I was competing with about 5 others |
| 19:32.05 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 19:32.21 | MoonWitch | which reminds me, I should get my alliance ass to mulgore |
| 19:32.27 | Ellipsis | just wait til competition dies down |
| 19:32.42 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis: I camped there like the dead camp :P |
| 19:33.06 | MoonWitch | bought tuns of herbs/scrolls/pots too |
| 19:33.21 | MoonWitch | and leather if it was cheaper than ah :P |
| 19:34.47 | Ellipsis | sigh, silly people |
| 19:34.54 | Ellipsis | the faire doesn't disappear in 24h |
| 19:34.56 | Ellipsis | but people act like it does |
| 19:35.15 | MoonWitch | I know |
| 19:35.32 | MoonWitch | but I wanted to optimize the money I had, bought some early, which I instantly sold |
| 19:35.38 | MoonWitch | used the profit to buy more |
| 19:36.23 | NeoTron | kergoth: it's fun isn't it? |
| 19:36.36 | kergoth | very |
| 19:37.12 | NeoTron | although I don't quite have 10k assets, I got enough to buy an epic mount for my alt (going down to 100g or so, but with a 1k loan so I really had 1.1kg left) up to 3500g no debts |
| 19:37.23 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:37.36 | NeoTron | all while raiding 16+ hrs per week |
| 19:39.04 | NeoTron | it's nice too since from what Blizzard has said theer are no big ticket items (i.e new mount skill) in wotlk |
| 19:39.06 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58013 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: added basic Pin type object, need to be fleshout more |
| 19:39.08 | Kivin | Is there any way to specify a member of a table from within the same table? like: t = { x = 3, y = ["x"] } or something? |
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| 19:39.42 | NeoTron | I suspect I'll level to 80 and then drop mining off my main (once JC is maxed) and go back to jc/tailoring.. unless they don't add new hot tailored items |
| 19:40.37 | Kivin | lua> local t = { x = 3, y = function() return this.x end }; print(t.y()) |
| 19:40.37 | lua_bot | Kivin: [string "local t = { x = 3, y = function() return th..."]:1: attempt to index global 'this' (a nil value) |
| 19:40.42 | Kivin | boo |
| 19:41.17 | ckknight | bad, Kivin |
| 19:41.31 | Kivin | ckknight: Is there no way? |
| 19:41.36 | ckknight | lua> local t = { x = 3, y = function(self) return self.x end }; print(t:y()) |
| 19:41.36 | lua_bot | ckknight: 3 |
| 19:41.46 | ckknight | note the : instead of . |
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| 19:42.07 | Kivin | Hmm... I guess I can use that. Thanks. |
| 19:44.12 | charon | ckknight: minor feature request, could you make it so pitbull's 'mouseover' has the same health bar color options as 'target', i.e. "by class for PvP enemies", "by hostility" etc |
| 19:44.34 | ckknight | same as what? |
| 19:44.42 | ckknight | mouseover? |
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| 19:46.36 | Lukian | ckknight, maybe he means cowtip? |
| 19:46.46 | ckknight | ah, okay then |
| 19:47.10 | ckknight | I'm a little busy right now |
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| 19:47.39 | Kivin | Speaking of, I never could figure out why Cowtip breaks Pawn. I just ended up supressing the pawn error message :P |
| 19:48.01 | Kivin | Or perhaps, why pawn breaks when CowTip is around. Not necessarilly suggesting CowTip is doing anything wrong. |
| 19:48.06 | charon | no, pitbull has a mouseover frame, and it would be great if it had the extra color options of the target frame too |
| 19:49.52 | Xinhuan | what happens when you mouseover the mouseover frame? |
| 19:50.06 | ckknight | doom |
| 19:50.33 | Xinhuan | i'll imagine ckknight is smart, and made it mouse-disabled :) |
| 19:51.04 | ckknight | not sure what I did |
| 19:51.10 | MoonWitch | if you mouseover the mouseover - your dvd drive spews demon seed |
| 19:51.23 | MoonWitch | and headless horsemen lvl 150 elites |
| 19:51.43 | Amadeo | Well that sucks, then my drink would spill |
| 19:51.59 | MoonWitch | yeah Amadeo I would imagine so |
| 19:52.28 | MoonWitch | my mom would be mighty pissed off at all those horses and headless folk in my room |
| 19:52.54 | Amadeo | What kind of gear does she have? I'm wondering if she could solo them |
| 19:53.14 | MoonWitch | I don't know, I've not checked it. She's a mage though :P |
| 19:53.29 | Amadeo | Does she summon you food and drink? |
| 19:53.50 | MoonWitch | well of course |
| 19:54.13 | Amadeo | "Mom, put down a table!" |
| 19:54.48 | MoonWitch | She's got her epic pvp gear though, she's good in kicking ass |
| 19:55.29 | charon | Xinhuan: it disappears |
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| 20:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | could someone please file a bugreport for me on the Bugs forum? |
| 20:01.55 | sag_ich_nicht | fear moves you with normal run speed instead of swimspeed under water. that breaks underwater pvp mechanics. |
| 20:02.26 | Ellipsis | there are underwater pvp mechanics? |
| 20:02.35 | Amadeo | Kedge Keep! |
| 20:02.36 | si-m1 | heh, nice bug |
| 20:02.48 | Lukian | very nice |
| 20:02.59 | si-m1 | yeah, you have root f.ex. that's a nice underwater pvpmechanic |
| 20:03.01 | Lukian | I sleep now |
| 20:03.05 | Chosi | quelevel? |
| 20:03.07 | Chosi | does what? |
| 20:03.09 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't know...I'm a warlock |
| 20:03.28 | si-m1 | and mind control |
| 20:03.30 | Lukian | Chosi, adds quality questlevels to the quest log |
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| 20:04.13 | Chosi | uhm doesn't questfu do that anyways? |
| 20:04.21 | Xinhuan | any hunter here? |
| 20:04.23 | Lukian | crappily |
| 20:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:02] <Ellipsis> there are underwater pvp mechanics? <--yeah, me ganking level 70 S1 equiped WLs in a lake, with my level 63 rogue. |
| 20:04.30 | Chosi | aight |
| 20:04.31 | Lukian | 70yd+ <- ugh. |
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| 20:04.38 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I"m a hunter? |
| 20:04.40 | Chosi | :D |
| 20:04.41 | Xinhuan | Surefooted hunter talent - Does this increase ranged hit, or melee hit, or both? |
| 20:04.44 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking noobs |
| 20:04.47 | Chosi | any rogue here? |
| 20:04.53 | Chosi | sag_ich_nicht: deine mam |
| 20:04.55 | Amadeo | In real life, or in game? |
| 20:04.58 | Chosi | both. |
| 20:05.06 | Lukian | Xinhuan, I'd assume both |
| 20:05.06 | Chosi | i like talking to gays. |
| 20:05.08 | Chosi | :x |
| 20:05.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Chosi: well i'm here, but i |
| 20:05.17 | Xinhuan | do you know for sure, or just guessing |
| 20:05.20 | Chosi | but you? |
| 20:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | 'm not 70 and not really that experienced. |
| 20:05.21 | Kivin | Xinhuan: It doesn't specific, which would indicate to me both |
| 20:05.28 | Amadeo | My Rogue is just 66 |
| 20:05.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (at least, not with my rogue) |
| 20:05.37 | Chosi | alright. just wanted to talk about crucial rogue addons and stuff |
| 20:05.41 | Lukian | Xinhuan, wowequip coming along nicely? :D |
| 20:05.52 | Xinhuan | just adding in some basic talent stuff |
| 20:05.52 | thul | llenergywatch " |
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| 20:05.57 | thul | 2 |
| 20:05.59 | Xinhuan | then it would be ready for v0.9 |
| 20:06.00 | thul | crucial |
| 20:06.12 | Chosi | i like the spark of pitbull |
| 20:06.15 | Chosi | that should suffice |
| 20:06.29 | thul | it doesen't work when you haev full bar |
| 20:06.30 | Xinhuan | after which there is a probability i might rewrite/restructure the whole addon into multiple files instead of the 3500 line giant it currently is |
| 20:06.32 | thul | so it fails |
| 20:06.46 | Kivin | Xinhuan: omg eww |
| 20:06.50 | Chosi | well classtimers |
| 20:06.52 | Chosi | hemlock |
| 20:06.53 | Xinhuan | well it started out small |
| 20:06.54 | Chosi | cutup |
| 20:06.58 | Xinhuan | less than 500 lines |
| 20:06.58 | Chosi | anything else? |
| 20:06.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:05] <Chosi> alright. just wanted to talk about crucial rogue addons and stuff <--only thing you really "need" is an energy ticker. |
| 20:07.08 | sag_ich_nicht | other than that, look into power auras if you PvP |
| 20:07.14 | Xinhuan | and 3500 lines is just the core lua code |
| 20:07.22 | Xinhuan | the data files are each 2000 lines or something |
| 20:07.34 | Xinhuan | and localization files are 1000 lines each |
| 20:07.59 | Kivin | A CheckButton doesn't include any label next to the [X], does it? you have to create a fontstring by hand? |
| 20:08.14 | Xinhuan | depends on whether you inheritted from a template |
| 20:08.33 | Xinhuan | if you didn't, then it is just a checkbutton - no labels/fontstrings attached |
| 20:08.35 | Kivin | Is there a template that gives that behavior? |
| 20:08.36 | kergoth | Chosi: hemlock or atropine for making poisons and auto purchasing flash powder |
| 20:08.43 | Kivin | I"m looking for checkbuttons like RockConfig has |
| 20:08.53 | Chosi | (21:03:42) (Chosi) well classtimers |
| 20:08.53 | Chosi | (21:03:44) (Chosi) hemlock |
| 20:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ôh and you should probably also look into a good casting bar for enemies so you know when to kick :> |
| 20:08.57 | Chosi | (21:03:46) (Chosi) cutup |
| 20:08.59 | Chosi | ;) |
| 20:09.01 | sag_ich_nicht | *oh |
| 20:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 20:09.08 | kergoth | oh, i'm blind :P |
| 20:09.15 | Chosi | i'm colorblind, nevermind |
| 20:09.20 | Chosi | we're both diseased |
| 20:09.21 | Chosi | :P |
| 20:10.22 | Chosi | for some reason i think i will drop cutup again |
| 20:10.27 | Chosi | slicewatch was lots nicer |
| 20:10.50 | Chosi | and i think sw is more lightweight anyways |
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| 20:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 20:11.10 | Amadeo | what do those do? |
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| 20:11.21 | KarlThePagan | xin - I've revised my ideas regarding routes & qutes objectives, my scope is getting out of hand ;) |
| 20:11.30 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 20:11.40 | Chosi | Amadeo: which? |
| 20:11.57 | KarlThePagan | I think I'll settle for just getting the data to work and worry about additional node weighting later |
| 20:12.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i need an addon that plays an alternating ticking sound for the duration of a buff or debuff. |
| 20:12.06 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:12.07 | Chosi | slicewatch shows a nice bar how long your s'n'd will last |
| 20:12.16 | Chosi | and how many seconds you'll add with the current combopoints |
| 20:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | like when your starman in super mario is about to run out |
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| 20:12.43 | Chosi | same for cutup |
| 20:12.46 | Amadeo | I see |
| 20:12.49 | Chosi | but cutup has some other features |
| 20:12.53 | Chosi | like auto pickpocket |
| 20:12.54 | Chosi | and stuff |
| 20:12.54 | KarlThePagan | I think ideally I want something that would produce an automatic leveling guide.... that's a little crazy ambitious |
| 20:12.59 | kergoth | i wonder if itd be useful to have a little addon to just show an icon when the mob you're targeting has mangle, so you know whether to time your rupture/garrote withi t |
| 20:12.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:13.05 | Chosi | KarlThePagan: thought about that before |
| 20:13.09 | Chosi | "got there now: " |
| 20:13.14 | kergoth | KarlThePagan: thats kinda what questhelper does, its inefficient as hell, but it works very nicely |
| 20:13.15 | Chosi | if you ask where to go :> |
| 20:13.17 | KarlThePagan | requires quest chain / reward data and more detailed prereq information than we have available |
| 20:13.17 | kergoth | heh |
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| 20:14.14 | Chosi | uhm |
| 20:14.16 | Chosi | slicewatch is gone! |
| 20:14.18 | Chosi | oh noez |
| 20:14.33 | kergoth | meh |
| 20:14.40 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, considering that quest optimization is a nested NP-hard problem I don't see how it could be anything other than inefficient as hell |
| 20:14.52 | kergoth | heh, true |
| 20:15.48 | KarlThePagan | but damn it would be really really awesome to show up in a zone and see a list of all the quest rewards and sortof dial-up or dial-down the amount of exp you wanted from that zone |
| 20:16.14 | kergoth | thatd almost make it too easy :) |
| 20:16.17 | Chosi | i'd still love to have a hack. |
| 20:16.29 | Xinhuan | it may be nested NP-hard, but since the number of quests is small, like 20 or so |
| 20:16.32 | Chosi | that draws a circle around enemy mobs to indicate aggro ranges |
| 20:16.33 | Xinhuan | its bruteforcable |
| 20:16.39 | Xinhuan | but its complex to write |
| 20:16.45 | Xinhuan | and i'm not doing it :D |
| 20:17.10 | Chosi | this would need some d3d overlay h4xx0ring |
| 20:17.16 | KarlThePagan | yea... I spent some time reading up on the TSP solver problems and I definitely think that ACO is one of the easier to extend for what I want :) glad you picked that one |
| 20:17.17 | Chosi | and i'd love it :P |
| 20:17.55 | Xinhuan | my insertnode() implementation isn't efficient btw ;d |
| 20:18.11 | Xinhuan | it generated a full N^2 data, when it only needs 3N data |
| 20:18.17 | KarlThePagan | yea I've noticed it doesn't always pick great paths |
| 20:18.23 | Xinhuan | maybe i'll go back and optimize it some |
| 20:18.35 | KarlThePagan | oh, wait.. .you mean in the optimize stage |
| 20:18.42 | Xinhuan | no, i mean Insertnode |
| 20:18.51 | KarlThePagan | lemme go back and look ;) |
| 20:18.54 | Xinhuan | when you pick a new node and it tries to insert it into an existing route |
| 20:19.07 | Xinhuan | its O(N) since there is only N insertion points |
| 20:19.09 | KarlThePagan | ok yea, that's what my initial thought was |
| 20:19.30 | Xinhuan | but the data i generated was 0.5N^2 |
| 20:19.37 | Xinhuan | when i only needed to generate 3N |
| 20:20.00 | KarlThePagan | this is going to keep me going back to my textbooks :P |
| 20:20.31 | KarlThePagan | stay in academics and/or research as long as you can... "real world" programming just dulls your mind |
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| 20:21.01 | KarlThePagan | I think one thing to make it work better with quests would be flightpath knowledge |
| 20:21.11 | KarlThePagan | which means ToFu integration |
| 20:22.15 | KarlThePagan | for example, felwood quest routes for alliance - gather up all the quests you can get in the south, make 1 or 2 round trips back, and then go all the way north clearing everything out and return tripping for a turnin |
| 20:22.33 | Xinhuan | i'm sure a human brain can figure that one out |
| 20:23.26 | KarlThePagan | yea, it's going to turn out to be a kind of partial graph / bottleneck TSP |
| 20:23.52 | KarlThePagan | and I'd need drop-rate information to estimate how many nodes I need to hit before the quest will be complete |
| 20:24.43 | KarlThePagan | flightpaths would just be extra zero-value nodes which increase travel time (and therefore are hit fairly often by ACO) |
| 20:24.51 | KarlThePagan | *decrease travel time |
| 20:25.40 | KarlThePagan | bbiab |
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| 20:30.30 | kagaro | KarlThePagan: never got a really interesting job? <-- works on cutting edge network stuff |
| 20:30.36 | [Liquidor] | Hahaha watch this sane Experiment: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjJ8u1dpUo |
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| 20:51.42 | thul | network stuff? :-P sounds nerdy :-D |
| 20:52.15 | Pkekyo| | what you on about now then thul? :p |
| 20:52.23 | thul | [21:30:00] < kagaro> KarlThePagan: never got a really interesting job? <-- works on cutting edge network stuff |
| 20:52.26 | thul | nothing much :-P |
| 20:52.34 | thul | I'm bored, my plane isn't due before 6 hours |
| 20:52.34 | thul | :-P |
| 20:53.28 | Chompers | i bet he uses that new ISDN stuff |
| 20:53.33 | Chompers | maybe even 2 channels |
| 20:53.45 | thul | woha |
| 20:54.13 | Pkekyo| | where you going thul? |
| 20:54.32 | thul | egypt |
| 20:54.37 | thul | http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00670/_egget-front_jpg_670453a.jpg <- who pays 85.000 NOK for that shit? |
| 20:55.04 | Merl_ | hehe, nice one thul :-p |
| 20:55.08 | Pkekyo| | lucky sod thul |
| 20:55.10 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Is this an Omen error? http://ace.pastey.net/80250 |
| 20:55.22 | thul | Pkekyo|: i know :-) 2 weeks in hurghada, cairo and partially in israel |
| 20:55.28 | Pkekyo| | thul: anyone with too much bloody money and too little bloody sense pays 85k NOK for that |
| 20:55.43 | osstia_ | thul that sounds fun |
| 20:55.45 | thul | Pkekyo|: I know, that is the sad part :/ |
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| 20:55.49 | thul | osstia_: I hope it will be :-) |
| 20:56.01 | Pkekyo| | dunno where the flying fuck hurghada is....cairo's sweet, though istrael, I do not like...sounds like a great trip though :) |
| 20:56.41 | thul | hehe, I hope so! |
| 20:56.53 | thul | i got my passport, egyptian money, visa-card, master-card and sunglasses ready :-P |
| 20:57.00 | thul | AND my camera :-D |
| 20:57.01 | Pkekyo| | damnit |
| 20:57.04 | Pkekyo| | knew I forgot something |
| 20:57.10 | thul | still not decided on bringing the 70-200 2.8 zoom or not |
| 20:57.11 | Pkekyo| | need a bloody pair of sunglasses, aye |
| 20:57.15 | thul | haha |
| 20:57.27 | thul | I'm bringing 3xpilots :-P |
| 20:57.54 | Pkekyo| | geif pilots |
| 20:57.57 | thul | hehe |
| 20:57.58 | Pkekyo| | I always ruin mine |
| 20:58.08 | thul | why do you think i bring three? :-P |
| 20:58.35 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 20:58.49 | Pkekyo| | I've kept on buying cheap knockoffs whilst on vacation, but I never manage to bring a pair back home with me |
| 21:00.08 | KarlThePagan | thul, no idea... I work on some "cutting edge" network stuff that is 95% boring |
| 21:00.14 | thul | KarlThePagan:P |
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| 21:00.34 | thul | most of my friends work with IT-stuff |
| 21:00.57 | KarlThePagan | I guess most of it is it stuff, not really pushing physical boundaries but organizational ones |
| 21:00.59 | Pkekyo| | geif a bloody job |
| 21:01.04 | KarlThePagan | *IT stuff |
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| 21:01.15 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo|, who? |
| 21:01.41 | KarlThePagan | err... yea k |
| 21:02.28 | thul | my educational area has an umemployment rate of about 0.6% |
| 21:02.49 | thul | and an average pay after 8 year at about 150.000 USD pr year |
| 21:02.51 | thul | so I'm happy |
| 21:02.55 | Pkekyo| | KarlThePagan: who what? |
| 21:03.06 | KarlThePagan | he's on first |
| 21:04.04 | Sais | What's on second? |
| 21:04.16 | KarlThePagan | you got it |
| 21:04.50 | Sais | ;) |
| 21:05.32 | Sais | You've obviously not seen the sketch |
| 21:05.53 | Sais | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who%27s_on_first |
| 21:05.54 | KarlThePagan | or I take casual liberty with my quotes |
| 21:05.59 | KarlThePagan | :P |
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| 21:06.16 | KarlThePagan | obviously I haven't seen it since I was 8 and didn't care to google it before I made the reference :P |
| 21:07.00 | Sais | I only wp'd it when Pkekyo| said he didn't know it....and, also, haven't seen it in a good while. |
| 21:07.13 | buu | Tsk. |
| 21:07.16 | buu | You children today. |
| 21:08.03 | thul | have you seen the norwegian version Pkekyo| ? :-P |
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| 21:08.15 | thul | "kor e a?" "korea" JA, de e jo de æ spør om: KOR E A?!" "korea" |
| 21:08.16 | thul | etc :-P |
| 21:08.41 | Pkekyo| | ~dict lethargic |
| 21:08.45 | Ellipsis | x.x |
| 21:08.46 | thul | for the non-trøndersk speaking |
| 21:08.56 | Pkekyo| | thul: nah, haven't |
| 21:09.08 | thul | "kor e a" means "where is she?", and is pronounced just as "korea" is in norwegian |
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| 21:09.24 | thul | so.. "kor e a?" (where is she?) "korea" (korea) etc... :-P |
| 21:09.49 | thul | hmm |
| 21:09.57 | thul | i need an egyptian irc-room :-P |
| 21:10.23 | Sais | #egypt? ;) |
| 21:11.14 | thul | hehe |
| 21:11.39 | Pkekyo| | rofl thul |
| 21:11.44 | osstia_ | watch murder on the nile on the plane thul |
| 21:11.50 | Pkekyo| | also: tried #afghanistan? alot of fun early in the morning :p |
| 21:11.53 | thul | osstia_: haha, ok.. :-P |
| 21:11.58 | thul | Pkekyo|: mad, mad man :-P |
| 21:12.06 | thul | i used to hang out in #jerusalem@efnet, but got perm-banned :-( |
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| 21:12.52 | Pkekyo| | me'n my mate got perm-banned from #afghanistan, #iraq and #iran all in a couple of hours work an early morning :p |
| 21:13.09 | thul | hahaha |
| 21:13.21 | Civrock | Is there a mod that makes movement of the BG/Arena score in the top-middle possible? |
| 21:13.22 | thul | I kind of hope to get a view if nile crocodiles in egypt |
| 21:13.45 | Pkekyo| | Civrock: MoveAnything!, if it hasn't been discontinued :p |
| 21:13.58 | Kivin | SimpleMinimap |
| 21:13.58 | thul | Pkekyo|: sag_ich_nicht is going to kill you now |
| 21:14.36 | Civrock | SimpleMinimap? Which option? |
| 21:14.40 | Kivin | enable movers |
| 21:14.43 | Civrock | Ohh. |
| 21:14.56 | Civrock | Gonna go try that out now, thanks! |
| 21:15.00 | Pkekyo| | thul: why? :p |
| 21:15.21 | thul | Pkekyo|: wait and see:P |
| 21:16.00 | thul | 19:49 < sag_ich_nicht> moveanything can go DIAF because it sucks |
| 21:16.08 | _neuron_ | ckknight, you still around? |
| 21:16.11 | thul | 19:48 < sag_ich_nicht> moveanything sucks. |
| 21:16.13 | thul | etc :-P |
| 21:16.16 | Pkekyo| | thul: ofc it sucks :p |
| 21:16.27 | Kivin | but it moves anything :P |
| 21:16.31 | Pkekyo| | it does what Civrock is looking for though |
| 21:16.32 | Pkekyo| | exactly |
| 21:16.50 | thul | http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/362/c/0/It_is_no_fun_by_gilad.jpg <- that picture was really, really nice |
| 21:16.54 | Civrock | Well, I don't want to 'moveanything', just the BG/Arena score. :P |
| 21:17.11 | thul | hmm, anyone seen the movie: salton sea? :-) |
| 21:17.17 | NeoTron | moveanything is nice except for a few things |
| 21:17.31 | NeoTron | it tends to automatically move items to the edge / outside of the screen |
| 21:17.46 | Civrock | Kivin: Which frame is it? |
| 21:17.52 | NeoTron | and using it with bEQL enabled, the quest tracker tends to randomly move around the screen |
| 21:17.53 | Kivin | Civrock, whichever one is in the right place :P |
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| 21:18.20 | Civrock | There isn't one for the BG/Arena score, might only show up while in a PvP zone, I guess. |
| 21:18.32 | Kivin | Don't think so... |
| 21:18.45 | Kivin | Can't be to much help to you since I'm not running the addon |
| 21:19.26 | Civrock | I got CaptureMover, QuestTimerFrame, DurabilityFrame and QuestWatchFrame. |
| 21:19.28 | Kivin | omg I need food... haven't ate anything in nearly 24 hours |
| 21:19.30 | Kivin | bbs |
| 21:19.36 | Civrock | Hmmk. :P |
| 21:19.57 | Ellipsis | smm doesn't move that one, no |
| 21:19.59 | thul | bad boy |
| 21:20.14 | Ellipsis | it only has movers for things that are attached to the minimap frame normally |
| 21:20.28 | Ellipsis | and that frame is just anchored to the center of the screen, not the minimap |
| 21:20.34 | Civrock | Right. |
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| 21:21.17 | ramoz | so, sup with wowhead these days? |
| 21:21.43 | Kemayo | Lukian: What *is* Quelevel's daily symbol, anyway? ("\226\128\162" is not a thing my brain translates well.) |
| 21:21.49 | _neuron_ | ckknight, http://pastebin.com/m31bed9cc patch for Cartographer_GroupColors not working in battlegrounds. |
| 21:21.50 | buubot | _neuron_: The paste m31bed9cc has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/6171 |
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| 21:23.00 | Ellipsis | wtf buubot? o.O |
| 21:23.27 | Kivin | This channel has it's share of bots |
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| 21:25.10 | Pkekyo| | bots ftw |
| 21:25.17 | Pkekyo| | one needs someone to talk to on a slow day, aye |
| 21:25.46 | thul | ~lart Pkekyo| |
| 21:25.46 | purl | shoots Pkekyo| in his sleep |
| 21:25.50 | thul | mohaah |
| 21:26.14 | bigzero | I've got an idea for an addon that i might write, but not sure if there is one already. Anyone know of something where you would be able to create a profile of addons to be loaded, and be able to save different setting for those addons in different profiles (kinda like closetgnome for UI layout). I realize that using different profiles in AceDB can sortof accomplish this, but it's not quite it |
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| 21:26.45 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit thul |
| 21:26.46 | purl | ACTION crits thul with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. thul dies |
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| 21:27.03 | thul | ;/ |
| 21:27.04 | Kivin | I don't know of anything quite like that, Bigzero |
| 21:27.08 | thul | ~crit Pkekyo| |
| 21:27.12 | thul | :-( |
| 21:27.33 | Kivin | Though I'm not certain how it'd work, since all addons tend to have somewhat different data-storage schemas |
| 21:27.49 | bigzero | figured it would be nice to have for like raid layout and then pvp, pve layouts. |
| 21:27.49 | Pkekyo| | ~fail thul |
| 21:27.49 | purl | thul: Fail. |
| 21:28.11 | Kivin | I figure every addon would have to implement some sort of common ground for data storage |
| 21:28.23 | Kivin | I'd use it if it worked |
| 21:28.54 | bigzero | Kivin, pretty much each addon would have to have it's support added to the profile addon. You would just have to take the a snapshot of the addon's config table, then recreate it when loading that profile |
| 21:28.55 | Ellipsis | well, profiles should be enough common ground to make that happen |
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| 21:29.14 | Ellipsis | but there's some things that would be tricky |
| 21:29.20 | Ellipsis | not all saved vars are configuration |
| 21:29.33 | Kivin | Ellipsis: Would be no good to me if my rock addons wern't implemented in it, too |
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| 21:29.47 | bigzero | Ellipsis, yeah, profiles would be a huge part of it, but also just loading completely different addons and then again, some addons don't have AceDB |
| 21:29.47 | Ellipsis | you might have some settings and some data, and you'd want the settings to be saved and reset with the profile switch, but not the saved data |
| 21:29.55 | Ellipsis | rock has profiles too, Kivin |
| 21:30.08 | Kivin | On a whole different framework |
| 21:30.22 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 21:30.26 | Ellipsis | meh, it's a very similar concept |
| 21:30.27 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin cncfanatics |
| 21:30.30 | Ellipsis | wouldn't take much to add support |
| 21:30.37 | bigzero | Ellipsis, that's why you would have to implement support for most addons individually, but I think it's manageable |
| 21:30.37 | cncfanatics | its 10:30pm; but g'morning Pkekyo| |
| 21:31.21 | bigzero | Ellipsis, I was thinking to just have a table of variables to take snapshots of for each addon |
| 21:31.27 | Pkekyo| | so it is, but g'mornin anyways |
| 21:31.58 | Kivin | bigzero: Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of Ace/RockDB if your addon is duplicating all the data |
| 21:32.13 | NeoTron | ~ugt |
| 21:32.14 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 21:32.24 | Ellipsis | what you really want is something that can iterate through your addons an call whatever functions their framework uses to switch profiles back and forth |
| 21:32.26 | bigzero | Kivin, again, for AceDB, rockDB addons you could just switch profiles |
| 21:32.52 | Kivin | great, that's fine. but doesn't seem like what you just said a min ago |
| 21:33.28 | Ellipsis | for addons that don't use db libs, they'd have to add support manually |
| 21:33.38 | Ellipsis | at least I think that's what bigzero's saying |
| 21:34.09 | Pkekyo| | lmfao, thanks for the laugh NeoTron |
| 21:34.18 | bigzero | the support for those addons would come from my addon..too many addons would have to want to addopt this scheme |
| 21:34.22 | bigzero | would be kinda like Skinner |
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| 21:34.58 | Kivin | I like the potential implications of the whole thing. What I see when I think of it is the ability to profie a number of skins for a UI Compilation and change those skins by clicking over profiles |
| 21:35.13 | bigzero | Kivin, that was the idea |
| 21:35.39 | Kivin | I had that idea on a less generic scale for the UI compilation I made a few months back, but I gave up on the compilation before I ever wrote any code |
| 21:35.47 | Ellipsis | er, if you literally mean just skins, can't skinner basically do that? |
| 21:36.29 | bigzero | idk about Kivin, i was thinking litterally different layouts and sets of addons |
| 21:36.35 | Kivin | I mean, for things like PitBull and my bars, it'd just change profiles, for non-frameworked things, it'd inject settings in |
| 21:38.18 | Kivin | I'd want it to be simple enough to interface between an arbitrary addon and the profiler that I would be encouranged to hand write the handlers for any addons that my skin would include |
| 21:38.23 | bigzero | The thing about profiles, Ellipsis, is that a lot of addons store more than just layout data in each profile, so changing profiles would mess with other stuff too. I need to look more into this. Got the idea while driving to the dentist...kinda raw still |
| 21:39.36 | Kivin | The one thing that was aparant to me when I visited this a month or two ago was that every addon, even the frameworked ones, were going to need at least a little special treatment |
| 21:39.55 | bigzero | Skinner does it...why can't i? |
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| 21:41.10 | Ellipsis | have you looked at skinner's code? :P |
| 21:41.10 | bigzero | besides, this would require much less support. The layout/addon settings would only change for addons like fubar, pitbul, huds, etc. |
| 21:41.32 | bigzero | Ellipsis, a while back...I could see this working out much cleaner though |
| 21:42.12 | bigzero | well, i'll come back either throwing this idea out or with some good news :-) |
| 21:42.32 | Kivin | okay :) |
| 21:43.28 | bigzero | I need a name to start with...don't feel like doing search-replace afterwards lol |
| 21:43.35 | Kivin | lol |
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| 21:44.23 | Kivin | Are you intending to attack this from the approach of UI layouts rather than something more general? |
| 21:45.04 | bigzero | it can be generalized, but i'm focusing on layout atm...i'll see how general i can make it |
| 21:46.04 | bigzero | i mean technically it could take snapshots of as many variables as you want. Just add those variables into tables |
| 21:46.49 | Xinhuan | bigzero, you culd talk to orionshock |
| 21:46.54 | Kivin | From a general point of view, i see three things happening to each addon it affects: Call some arbitrary work (callback func), Inject the settings, Call another func |
| 21:47.08 | Xinhuan | he has a semi-done addon that tries to "extract" profile data from addons |
| 21:47.28 | Xinhuan | so that this addon could reinject the same data back into the same addon in another account |
| 21:47.53 | Xinhuan | however i believe complexities in how the data is stored in acedb stopped him |
| 21:47.53 | bigzero | has he branched it maybe? |
| 21:47.59 | Xinhuan | you'll have to ask him |
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| 21:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | quick, how much RAP is 1 agi for a hunter? |
| 21:48.39 | bigzero | ~seen Orionshock |
| 21:48.43 | purl | orionshock <n=chatzill@ip68-96-52-105.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 57m 1s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: if it's phooked too badly it'll tell you to just reinstall'. |
| 21:48.43 | Xinhuan | basically, its simply an idea addon he had to quickly be able to transfer settings from one account to another enmass |
| 21:48.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and how much crit |
| 21:49.13 | bigzero | shouldn't copying stuff from WTF do it? |
| 21:49.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:49.44 | bigzero | how come? |
| 21:49.52 | Vulcanus | different char names and other shite probs |
| 21:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm found it |
| 21:50.01 | bigzero | hmmm... |
| 21:50.07 | Vulcanus | some addons use char names as their table indexes |
| 21:50.09 | Arrowmaster | because lots of addons use char names and realms when storing data |
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| 21:50.58 | Kivin | Every addon is going to be different, make no mistake about that. |
| 21:51.11 | Xinhuan | he only intended it to be for addons that use acedb |
| 21:51.25 | Kivin | The addon itself would probably have to provide the profiler with a callback function that does the legwork |
| 21:51.27 | Xinhuan | there is a 3-page thread on it somewhere |
| 21:51.36 | Xinhuan | on wowace forums |
| 21:51.39 | bigzero | well, first things first...getting different sets of addons loaded for different profile. even if the rest doesn't work out, I would still find that useful |
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| 21:52.53 | bigzero | Kivin, eh, idk. all the settings that get saved are global anyway. and so are the addon tables that use AceDB/RockDB (unless authors are evil) |
| 21:53.15 | Arrowmaster | no theyre not |
| 21:54.10 | Xinhuan | some settings are perchar |
| 21:54.36 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, hmm, yeah, nvm..idk why i said that |
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| 21:57.08 | _neuron_ | Arrowmaster, how is the cartographer development coordinated? Is anyone gonna get cranky with me if I go ninja commiting fixes/adding features? (http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-85 specifically for now) |
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| 21:57.42 | Arrowmaster | dont ask me all i do is ninja commit shit without ckknights permission |
| 21:58.02 | _neuron_ | I'll try to sneak one in and see if I can get away with it then |
| 21:58.20 | Ellipsis | _neuron_: if you've tested the patch and it doesn't break anything, it won't be a problem |
| 21:58.22 | clad|sleep | *shrug* if he's not gonna support his addons, someone should |
| 21:58.25 | Kivin | It took me a week to get a 3 line commit in for RockConfig a while back =/ I'd just go ahead with it if you know what you're doing |
| 21:58.32 | clad|sleep | that way broken stuff isn't being shipped out. |
| 21:58.35 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla added yoru patch to the list of things to nag ckknight about though |
| 21:58.46 | _neuron_ | Ellipsis, I've done open source development for like 10 years, I generally test shit when commiting to other people's projects :p |
| 21:58.48 | Ellipsis | and he gets stuff done |
| 21:58.57 | _neuron_ | and I'm always sure it doesn't break anything |
| 21:59.01 | Ellipsis | well then I don't see any reason why you shouldn't just go ahead and commit it |
| 21:59.01 | _neuron_ | that doesn't mean it won't though |
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| 22:00.25 | CIA-8 | 03neuron * r58014 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GroupColors/GroupColors.lua: Cartographer_GroupColors: Fixing battlefield map icons |
| 22:01.00 | Kivin | what was broken, anyways? |
| 22:01.09 | _neuron_ | it was showing white icons in battlegrounds |
| 22:01.20 | _neuron_ | on the minimap, not on the worldmap |
| 22:01.29 | _neuron_ | because of the afk report system in 2.3 I believ |
| 22:01.29 | Ellipsis | was that just from the old UnitName ninja-change? |
| 22:01.35 | _neuron_ | believe |
| 22:01.47 | Ellipsis | oh, I didn't realize there were still issues from that |
| 22:02.23 | _neuron_ | doing _G["BattlefieldMinimapRaid" .. i]:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) in a slightly different place seems to have done the trick atleast. |
| 22:03.03 | _neuron_ | semi considering adding friendlist support to those icons too, I wanna see who's my friend in bg's |
| 22:03.17 | _neuron_ | just not entirely sure how to do it without it becoming an annoyance in premades |
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| 22:04.40 | _neuron_ | I really should work more on that mod though, I need the honor :P, testing it was great honor. |
| 22:04.50 | Kivin | heh |
| 22:05.03 | Kivin | working on my addons results in rested XP, but thats'a bout it :p |
| 22:05.19 | Kivin | endless hours sitting at the orgrimmar bank listening to gold spam and seeing how my script reacts |
| 22:05.23 | _neuron_ | hehe, yeah :P |
| 22:05.52 | Kivin | I accidently pasted about two dozen lines of Lua into /say today :P |
| 22:06.09 | _neuron_ | I do that all the time :P |
| 22:06.13 | Kemayo | That's always good for a laugh. |
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| 22:06.31 | Kivin | I felt like a total knob. It was a pretty big portion of my code |
| 22:06.47 | _neuron_ | I actually pasted code in /bg in an AV earlier today as well, trying to fix cartographer, explained myself, and 2 people said it had been pissing them off too :P |
| 22:06.47 | Kivin | "Whoops... Nothing to see here. Move along." |
| 22:07.15 | Xinhuan | maybe you shouldn't be using a chat addon that allows you to paste multiline stuff into chat |
| 22:07.24 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r58015 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Blizz/Blizz.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Steal Quelevel's very good idea of hiding the redundant tags in the quest log. |
| 22:07.28 | Xinhuan | the default UI concantenates them all into a single line, and doesn't auto send it |
| 22:07.36 | Kivin | Xinhuan: It was in an infinite-length Trinity macro |
| 22:07.37 | Tinyboom | I wish someone would fix this: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-156 :( driving me nuts and messing with my screen making it cluttered... |
| 22:07.58 | Kivin | Xinhuan: was supposed to be one /run statement, but i had copied all my \r\ns in, too. |
| 22:08.04 | _neuron_ | Tinyboom, you sure you have selected raid frames to be visible in BG's? |
| 22:08.05 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 22:08.18 | Kivin | so it ended up being a whole screen of Lua spam |
| 22:08.19 | _neuron_ | Tinyboom, raid -> other -> "show in battleground" and select which ones you want :P |
| 22:08.52 | Tinyboom | not the problem _neuron_, i am trying to hide the party frames, and they won't.... not using pitbull raid frames |
| 22:08.52 | Kivin | Only having 4 bags as a Hunter sucks ass |
| 22:08.59 | Kemayo | I'm always that strange person standing in the bank in Stormwind saying "dump GetGuildBankItemInfo(1, 17)" |
| 22:09.00 | _neuron_ | ohh |
| 22:09.14 | _neuron_ | Tinyboom, check your interface options? :P |
| 22:09.14 | chiper | Kemayo, hah |
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| 22:09.33 | Kivin | Kemayo: I'm just waiting for a day that someone reports me for h4x because of it. There's some pitifully ignorant people out there. |
| 22:09.35 | _neuron_ | I dunno though |
| 22:09.36 | Polarina | Kemayo: Do people think you're a madman? |
| 22:09.37 | Tinyboom | _neuron_: 2 sec, will do:) |
| 22:09.48 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: that's no bug |
| 22:09.56 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: ok? |
| 22:09.58 | Kemayo | Polarina: No comments, yet! |
| 22:10.01 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: you just have to choose the battlegrounds you want something shown or not |
| 22:10.15 | Pkekyo| | meh, I always forget to do the pvp daily :< |
| 22:10.19 | Kemayo | I actually managed to spam my guild with that once, and surprisingly didn't get any comments. Very tolerant people, apparently. |
| 22:10.29 | Spiffy | does anyone know of a good mod that lists the real-time resource usage of individual addons? I need to try and figure out which one causes me to lag during certain fights |
| 22:10.30 | Tinyboom | all i want is the party frames to go away in bg's, as they do in a normal raid--- |
| 22:10.33 | Tinyboom | ... |
| 22:10.39 | _neuron_ | Kemayo, I force my guildies to help me test mods too :P |
| 22:10.50 | Xinhuan | i'm the guy that sits in IF |
| 22:10.55 | Xinhuan | and inspects about 100 people every hour |
| 22:10.58 | Xinhuan | to make sure WoWEquip works |
| 22:11.00 | Kivin | Hehe Kemayo: My old guild is used to be blowing off some steam when I can't get something to work, so they wouldn't be very surprised if I dumped a metric shittonne of Lua into /g |
| 22:11.28 | Xinhuan | i don't sit in Shattrath because half the people are from the other faction :D |
| 22:11.30 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: geif gold! |
| 22:11.52 | Pkekyo| | g'nite _neuron_ |
| 22:11.53 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: Raid - other - Show in Battleground options |
| 22:11.54 | Kivin | cheers |
| 22:13.02 | Kivin | Everyone: What's the 5-man instance scene like on your servers? Particularly everything between Hellfire Citadel and TK. non heroics. |
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| 22:13.14 | Kivin | I mean, are there usually people in the queues? is it impossible to get a group? |
| 22:14.03 | chiper | usually LFG is pretty sad |
| 22:15.24 | mort | non heroic? no chance |
| 22:15.40 | Kivin | that's sad, indeed |
| 22:16.03 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: raid is disabled, as i don't use the pitbull raid frames, problem is i want the party frames to hide like they do in a normal raid, and they don't hide in bg's.... |
| 22:16.17 | Stanzilla | hehe |
| 22:16.17 | mort | but tons of blue/green equipped people looking for heroic groups :( |
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| 22:16.22 | Stanzilla | the raid modules does that Tinyboom |
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| 22:16.32 | Kivin | I've always wondered if it was just that my server is really badly off, or if running instances on a leveling char is just a thing of the past. |
| 22:16.33 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: ok, enabling and checking |
| 22:16.45 | Kemayo | On mine you can only get into an instance using LFG without hours of waiting if you seed your group with tank+healer. |
| 22:16.51 | KarlThePagan | Kivin, all about trade chat spam on my server ;? |
| 22:16.55 | KarlThePagan | :/ people hate pugs |
| 22:17.02 | chiper | Kemayo, yeah same here |
| 22:17.28 | mort | i'm the healer and i have a friendlist full of tanks i trust ;) |
| 22:17.28 | Kivin | I remember when 5 mans were a big craze, pre-tbc. |
| 22:18.03 | Kivin | always seemed to be groups looking for dire mauls and straths and everything. |
| 22:18.05 | KarlThePagan | I remember the last 4 months before BC when everyone ran ubrs and almost nothing else |
| 22:18.13 | chiper | I remember when PUG wasnt synonimous with shitty players |
| 22:18.15 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: that means i have to use the pitbull raid frames ey? or can i disable them somehow? |
| 22:18.15 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r58016 10Relegation/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:18.15 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 22:18.15 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 22:18.15 | CIA-8 | - Fixed an extremely rare bug that could cause innocent players to be reported. |
| 22:18.46 | Kivin | Love those false negatives, eh |
| 22:19.08 | KarlThePagan | false positive ;) |
| 22:19.11 | Kivin | er yeh |
| 22:19.16 | Spiffy | Is there a WoWAce version of Warmup or something similar relating to resource usage? |
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| 22:19.26 | Kivin | I had to patch a fairly gigantic error in the logic of SpamGuard yesterday |
| 22:19.50 | Polarina | Kivin: ? |
| 22:20.15 | Kivin | It was scoring people for a message for every chat frame the message hit |
| 22:21.22 | chiper | so is anyone else having a serious problem with the 50 friend limit? |
| 22:21.40 | Kivin | I have more problems with the ignore limit, because I'm an asshole and ignore a lot of people |
| 22:22.25 | mort | i would love to group alts together in the friendlist :/ |
| 22:22.29 | chiper | uhg, yesterday I log in, and not even 10 seconds later some guy walks up and starts begging for food and water from me. |
| 22:23.13 | Kivin | charge vendor price for it :P |
| 22:23.41 | Polarina | Kivin: It's no sell price. |
| 22:23.47 | chiper | sorry, but I'm not going to take the time to open my spellbook, find the right kind of water you can use, and make it for you when I dont even know you |
| 22:23.56 | chiper | just so you can save a few silver |
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| 22:24.25 | Kivin | Polarina: I meant the vendor price for like food |
| 22:24.42 | mewzy | hi |
| 22:25.00 | mewzy | Is there an add on that could check on mobs armor perhaps? I know for health, mana etc.. tho |
| 22:25.12 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: thanks for the help, gonna test it later when i do my daily pvp :) |
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| 22:25.40 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: though it would be better if it was working without the raid module:) |
| 22:26.32 | Xinhuan | [1/8 06:19:06] <Spiffy> Is there a WoWAce version of Warmup or something similar relating to resource usage? |
| 22:26.33 | Xinhuan | no. |
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| 22:26.53 | kergoth | is warmup even of use anymore? i guess to measure initial load times |
| 22:26.55 | Xinhuan | you will want such an addon to be independant of any libraries/addons for it to be of any usable accuracy |
| 22:27.11 | Spiffy | yea.. i was just reading about that. do u know of any? |
| 22:27.14 | Xinhuan | because if it uses a library, then that usage will itself distort readings |
| 22:27.16 | mewzy | None has any ideas about mob armor? |
| 22:27.17 | chiper | has anybody tried to catch the results of a /who query? can that be done? |
| 22:27.19 | Xinhuan | nope, warmup is the only one |
| 22:27.25 | Xinhuan | chiper, yes, it can |
| 22:27.31 | Xinhuan | you listen to the /who response event |
| 22:27.41 | Ozguli | how can a paladin 1 shot himself? |
| 22:27.43 | Ozguli | to death? |
| 22:27.45 | chiper | does the server cap you on /who requests? |
| 22:27.50 | Kivin | Ozguli: yes |
| 22:27.55 | Ozguli | how? |
| 22:27.59 | Xinhuan | yes, your client only sends a /who request every 5 secs max |
| 22:28.00 | Ozguli | no di no spell reflect |
| 22:28.01 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla & _neuron_ : think i found the error, seems to be a pebcak..... :p |
| 22:28.01 | Kivin | divine intervention |
| 22:28.03 | Ozguli | no jumping down |
| 22:28.09 | chiper | ok |
| 22:28.13 | Kivin | kills the paladin and takes a party member out of combat |
| 22:28.14 | Xinhuan | and ignores everything else you try in that 5 secs |
| 22:28.23 | Ozguli | a damn tricky question |
| 22:28.23 | chiper | so, in theory, you could write your own friends list mod |
| 22:28.35 | Xinhuan | in theory yes |
| 22:28.40 | chiper | granted, the larger the list, the longer it would take to update |
| 22:28.44 | Xinhuan | but it wouldn't be practical |
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| 22:29.03 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I bloody KNEW that blizzard making the EotS flag shiny would attract retards |
| 22:29.06 | CIA-8 | 03neuron * r58017 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GroupColors/GroupColors.lua: Cartographer_GroupColors: Only update battlefield icons when battlefield is visible |
| 22:29.07 | Xinhuan | also many addons already do background /whos |
| 22:29.08 | Ozguli | tell me and I win a million dollars |
| 22:29.14 | Xinhuan | such as Prat |
| 22:29.16 | Xinhuan | and WIM |
| 22:29.25 | chiper | pity |
| 22:29.26 | Xinhuan | so that they can color the player name accordingly |
| 22:29.42 | Xinhuan | some addons like SpamSentry also does /who to see if the player that PMed is a lvl 1 |
| 22:29.47 | Kivin | Indeed. My /who cooldown is pretty well pepetually spent |
| 22:30.01 | Kivin | I specifically didn't have lv.1 filtering in SpamGuard for that reason |
| 22:30.05 | Xinhuan | so already the /who scene is pretty much loaded depending on what addon you use |
| 22:30.38 | chiper | wow needs an ison command |
| 22:30.41 | Xinhuan | WarcraftRealms also has a mod you can install to do a /who of every person online on your faction |
| 22:30.49 | Xinhuan | so that you can upload said data |
| 22:31.12 | FtH|Daemona | doesnt wholib even queue who requests? |
| 22:31.16 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 22:31.20 | NivFreak | poll time! In awarding loot, would you give priority to an Off-spec for a main, or a On-spec for an alt? |
| 22:31.32 | Xinhuan | NivFreak - whichever causes least drama |
| 22:31.33 | FtH|Daemona | Main > Alt |
| 22:31.36 | FtH|Daemona | always |
| 22:31.47 | NivFreak | why? |
| 22:31.51 | FtH|Daemona | because the off-gear for a Main could be needed in new content |
| 22:31.53 | Xinhuan | or if you already have a rule on this, stick to the rule |
| 22:31.54 | FtH|Daemona | aka Loatheb |
| 22:32.10 | sylvanaar | Prat only does who's via wholib, and only if you tell it to. Otherwise it gathers data passively |
| 22:32.11 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: it's just farming kara for alts and badges |
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| 22:32.25 | FtH|Daemona | then they should have the same right |
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| 22:32.32 | FtH|Daemona | if its per definition an alt run |
| 22:32.32 | osstia_ | NivFreak: in that case roll |
| 22:32.39 | Xinhuan | i know that sylvanaar, but i was just pointing out many addons have the capability |
| 22:32.39 | NivFreak | I gave it to the on-spec alt |
| 22:32.44 | NivFreak | since he had a shitty blue weapon |
| 22:32.47 | FtH|Daemona | unless the main said "i need just that one item but i help the whole run" |
| 22:32.52 | NivFreak | and the off-spec main had a slightly worse epic |
| 22:32.53 | FtH|Daemona | common sense people, common sense. |
| 22:33.00 | chiper | NivFreak, if it's just kara, roll it |
| 22:33.09 | NivFreak | it wasn't a big deal, no drama |
| 22:33.14 | osstia_ | good |
| 22:33.14 | NivFreak | just curious on general thoughts |
| 22:33.17 | Pkekyo| | how bloody mature, a pala calls two locks and a warrior as reinforcements and then commencees /spit-spam |
| 22:33.20 | osstia_ | drama in kara would be dumb |
| 22:33.25 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:33.31 | Kivin | *sigh* Pkekyo|. |
| 22:33.39 | Xinhuan | NivFreak - my answer applies: whichever causes least drama |
| 22:33.39 | chiper | but IMO, it should always go to whoever will use it the most |
| 22:33.40 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan i just walked in so i didnt really read back too far |
| 22:33.48 | Kivin | The only emotes I see from the horde are friendly ones. is that a belf or an alliance? |
| 22:33.51 | NivFreak | chiper: that's how I felt about it |
| 22:34.08 | NivFreak | I just don't like being too pushy about my personal opinion, even though I can be |
| 22:34.09 | fridg | is there a way to bind keys to mouse functions via blizz ui without using macros? |
| 22:34.29 | Xinhuan | chiper: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773311727&sid=1 |
| 22:34.32 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: sorry I was afk. If you got a better solution, post it on jira or test and commit it :) |
| 22:34.35 | chiper | niv: that's how my guild handles kara rolls. upgrades > off-set > shard |
| 22:34.43 | chiper | occasionally a fun roll before sharding |
| 22:34.44 | mewzy | is there a mod that can calculate TARGET ARMOR PLS? |
| 22:34.46 | Xinhuan | that post i just linked is just a few minutes old too |
| 22:35.00 | Kivin | mewzy: don't think so |
| 22:35.03 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: was a pebcak..... nevermind my brainless whining:p |
| 22:35.11 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: dunno wether to bitch about the alliance retards or the flagfags on horde side :p |
| 22:35.11 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: at least i think so |
| 22:35.12 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: lol k :) |
| 22:35.19 | mewzy | hmm, maybe after killing mobs few times? |
| 22:35.20 | chiper | we had a fun roll saturday when the squid-on-a-stick dropped |
| 22:35.28 | NivFreak | chiper: yea, we pass out strangle staffs to everyone |
| 22:35.32 | NivFreak | for fun |
| 22:35.39 | NivFreak | voids are so worthless |
| 22:36.03 | chiper | heh, yeah, cant even sell the things on the AH |
| 22:36.08 | Tinyboom | Stanzilla: gonna check if i fixed it later, right now i'm on a old school zg run:p |
| 22:36.14 | Kivin | They sell well on CC... ~30g each |
| 22:36.19 | Stanzilla | Tinyboom: ok :) |
| 22:36.37 | NivFreak | I sold 60 of the for around 620G |
| 22:36.38 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:36.40 | NivFreak | them |
| 22:36.50 | chiper | on khaz modan the AH is full of the things. they still sell for 30g+, but not quickly |
| 22:37.36 | chiper | they need to add an enchanting formula to turn voids into prismatics |
| 22:38.09 | FtH|Daemona | yes pls, 1 void - 3 lps |
| 22:38.09 | Ozguli | and vice versa? |
| 22:38.14 | NivFreak | chiper: yea |
| 22:38.30 | NivFreak | you can only do so many mongoose enchants |
| 22:38.45 | NivFreak | just our one kara group had ~150 voids |
| 22:38.50 | NivFreak | it's sick |
| 22:39.05 | chiper | our guildbank has close to 200, but we're always running low on prismatics |
| 22:39.11 | Arrowmaster | i think our bank has over 500 |
| 22:39.38 | FtH|Daemona | your bank got prismatics ??? |
| 22:39.40 | FtH|Daemona | wtf |
| 22:39.46 | fridg | srsly wtb |
| 22:39.51 | Arrowmaster | 500 voids |
| 22:40.06 | NivFreak | we run 3 kara groups a week |
| 22:40.07 | FtH|Daemona | was refering to chiper |
| 22:40.07 | Arrowmaster | wtb quest to turnin void crystals for primal nethers |
| 22:40.11 | NivFreak | so I'm sure we have around 500 total |
| 22:40.21 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yea no shit! |
| 22:40.25 | chiper | FtH|Daemona: yeah, they're worth more than voids on KM |
| 22:40.38 | FtH|Daemona | yeah but how does your guildbank get LPS ? |
| 22:40.49 | FtH|Daemona | don't you greed roll boe's ? |
| 22:40.54 | FtH|Daemona | ;=) |
| 22:40.58 | chiper | heh |
| 22:41.21 | Ozguli | they run heroics? |
| 22:41.34 | Ozguli | while waiting for the raids |
| 22:41.35 | chiper | yeah, we do do a lot of heroics |
| 22:41.44 | NivFreak | we send all BoEs to the bank and auction them off |
| 22:42.00 | FtH|Daemona | wow i wouldnt think anyone did that. |
| 22:42.07 | Ozguli | if a boe was worth 30g I'd de it |
| 22:42.14 | FtH|Daemona | but nonetheless i think our gbank is somewhere at 100k+ |
| 22:42.15 | Ozguli | just because the shard's worth 35g or so |
| 22:42.20 | Arrowmaster | our guildbank gets everything |
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| 22:42.36 | NivFreak | Ozguli: just depends on values vs economy |
| 22:42.41 | NivFreak | we DE it if it's worthless |
| 22:42.54 | NivFreak | I just wish I could do something with the ~1000 soul essences |
| 22:43.07 | chiper | yeha, that's another one we have WAY too much of |
| 22:43.10 | Ozguli | cloth and such? |
| 22:43.16 | NivFreak | that's just my mule |
| 22:43.17 | chiper | and those things really DONT sell |
| 22:43.19 | NivFreak | I'm sure there's 4x that |
| 22:43.27 | Ozguli | then have everyone grind primal mana |
| 22:43.29 | chiper | I've tried, even undercuttong by 10% I couldnt move them |
| 22:43.37 | Ozguli | you know, in arcane resistance gear |
| 22:43.38 | Xinhuan | you haven't seen the 700 Frozen Runes in my guild bank ;p |
| 22:43.43 | Ozguli | less dmg taken and such |
| 22:44.08 | Ozguli | should get some AP gear on my priest |
| 22:44.32 | osstia_ | we still have a stack of Ingots in our Guld Bank |
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| 22:44.42 | osstia_ | I saw them the other day and chuckled |
| 22:44.59 | Kivin | wtb a raid guild =/ |
| 22:45.03 | Kivin | you're all depressing me |
| 22:45.12 | osstia_ | Kivin: I don't raid anymore |
| 22:45.14 | chiper | mine is barely a raid guild |
| 22:45.21 | osstia_ | I stopped after Gruul last spring |
| 22:45.26 | chiper | we do kara, ZA, and gruuls, that's it |
| 22:45.37 | osstia_ | I haven't even seen ZA |
| 22:45.41 | Kivin | better than the crap i've put up with for the last few months |
| 22:45.43 | osstia_ | just Kara and PVP |
| 22:45.45 | Kivin | i've never set foot in anything but kara |
| 22:45.52 | chiper | I havent either, there's only 15 or so people in my guild equipped enough for it |
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| 22:46.08 | osstia_ | I miss it, but I don't miss the drama and the work involved in running it all |
| 22:46.23 | Kivin | Once I finally have enough money for epic flight, i'm going to go back to the respec dance and tank out for raiding. hopefully that'll open some doors |
| 22:46.27 | chiper | you have kara drama? |
| 22:46.28 | osstia_ | I work 50 hours a week, and it was like a second job on top of it. So not worth it... |
| 22:46.46 | osstia_ | chiper: I did last spring, yes |
| 22:46.50 | osstia_ | now, no way |
| 22:46.56 | chiper | eesh |
| 22:46.58 | osstia_ | I play with a bunch of real life friends |
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| 22:47.21 | chiper | we've got kara down. even if half the group has never been there we can one shot everything |
| 22:47.40 | chiper | guild leader's really good at teaching the fights |
| 22:47.51 | mort | 5 new people on netherspite? brrrr |
| 22:47.58 | Kivin | i agree with mort |
| 22:48.01 | chiper | mort: yeah, but we handle it great |
| 22:48.10 | Kivin | I don't think it's fair to say you've got it down when half your group hasn't been and done it a dozen times. |
| 22:48.16 | chiper | he has this little training thing that he does in the room outside Aran |
| 22:48.52 | chiper | kivin: we're about to start our third kara group |
| 22:49.05 | mort | that's the only fight in kara were you need some sort of coordination and i would hate do do it with 5 new people |
| 22:49.28 | Kivin | because you need no coordination on aran or illhoof or prince... |
| 22:49.41 | Kivin | (I'm not saying they're difficult, but like hell they don't need coordinatino) |
| 22:49.46 | chiper | we did it. first time I was in kara I was one of the five. he took 15 minutes detailing the fight, acting it out with others who had done it, and it went flawless |
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| 22:50.33 | Xinhuan | that only happens if people pay attention and listen |
| 22:50.58 | mort | and that almost never happens ;) |
| 22:51.14 | NeoTron | depending on the ppl/tanks you might onlyneed 4 people to coordiate on netherspite |
| 22:51.25 | NeoTron | tanks taking turns in red/green and two dpsers in the blue beam |
| 22:51.41 | NeoTron | ofc you might need 3-4 ppl for blue depending on the healers and classes too |
| 22:52.11 | NeoTron | but man netherspite was the fight in kara we had the most issues with |
| 22:52.22 | NeoTron | since then we have weeded out some of the least useful raiders |
| 22:52.34 | Xinhuan | you can do netherspite with just 1 tank per phase :) |
| 22:52.52 | Ellipsis | and 2 blue beam dps is enough |
| 22:52.54 | Kivin | holy crap. Alar is the 4th top contributor on curse.com |
| 22:53.03 | Ellipsis | no reason they shouldn't be able to survive the whole thing if your healers aren't total idiots |
| 22:53.10 | Xinhuan | how is "contributor" defined? |
| 22:53.18 | Kivin | Beats me, there's a top 10 list |
| 22:53.33 | chiper | yeah, we usually do 4 people on blue, two teams of two, alternating between banish phases |
| 22:53.56 | Ellipsis | every time I've done the fight on my lock I've done a full beam myself |
| 22:54.19 | RaydenU | http://www.wowarmory.com/maintenance.xml |
| 22:54.20 | RaydenU | yay |
| 22:54.42 | RaydenU | "But, as a WoW Insider writer told me, at least there always is one way to see what's up with any character in the game: make an alt, run out to where they are, and /inspect away." <-- do what now? |
| 22:54.52 | RaydenU | dangit |
| 22:54.53 | RaydenU | gotta go |
| 22:58.07 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58018 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua Display.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMAte: first pass of world map pins |
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| 22:58.55 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: ofc just 1 tank per phase |
| 22:59.10 | NeoTron | but all dpsers with all healers can't take a full blue beam |
| 22:59.11 | kagaro | ping Ammo |
| 22:59.34 | kagaro | NeoTron: gear check ? |
| 22:59.54 | NeoTron | kagaro: I've done blyue phase solo pretty much from the very start (warlock) |
| 23:00.07 | NeoTron | nowadays I don't use drain life however, but typically just shadow bolt away |
| 23:00.08 | kagaro | gotcha, I do the same on my priest |
| 23:00.16 | kagaro | VE through it |
| 23:00.24 | NivFreak | We one shotted netherspite |
| 23:00.41 | kagaro | ~seen Ammo |
| 23:00.45 | purl | ammo <n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 656d 9h 2m 13s ago, saying: 'at least that's what the threads suggest'. |
| 23:00.48 | NivFreak | 4 red beam folks, two tanks, two healers, melee in the green beam, locks in the blue |
| 23:01.22 | Xinhuan | kagaro |
| 23:01.25 | NivFreak | if we have no locks, throw a shadow priest in |
| 23:01.26 | kagaro | yo |
| 23:01.26 | kebinusan | you can have one tank in the red beam per phase if you have him dance in and out of it |
| 23:01.28 | NivFreak | followed by whoever |
| 23:01.37 | NivFreak | kebinusan: but then netherspite takes ticks |
| 23:01.40 | NivFreak | not really worth it |
| 23:01.44 | Xinhuan | i just checked the code, uh.. PM ;d |
| 23:01.45 | NivFreak | we've had rogues tank the second half |
| 23:01.51 | kebinusan | meh, not alot of ticks |
| 23:01.56 | kebinusan | its not a hard fight to heal anyway |
| 23:02.00 | NivFreak | nah |
| 23:02.00 | NivFreak | easy |
| 23:02.13 | NivFreak | on my priest I just keep renews up |
| 23:02.21 | NivFreak | and a few flash heals to the blue beam |
| 23:02.34 | NivFreak | only gets interesting when people stand in void zones |
| 23:02.38 | NivFreak | or don't run from nether breaths |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r58019 10BasicChatMods/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-8 | BasicChatMods: v2 Final |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-8 | - Refactoring finished, clean, neat and riddled with lots of docs to help you customize. |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-8 | - No longer uses Ace2, using own hooks |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-8 | - This will probably be the last update unless something breaks or I made a typo |
| 23:08.12 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Yeah, it's related to a frame closing and then Dewdrop trying to position based on it |
| 23:08.17 | Antiarc | I need to fix it |
| 23:09.12 | Ellipsis | I still haev invisible omen making me pull out bars when I move my camera. fix. |
| 23:09.43 | Antiarc | You can lock the Omen frame as a fix |
| 23:09.48 | Antiarc | That prevents pullouts |
| 23:09.58 | Ellipsis | but I don't want it locked :( |
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| 23:19.24 | ckknight | _neuron_: oh, please fix |
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| 23:20.31 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58020 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate bug fix, and redo of pin recycling |
| 23:21.46 | Shirik | Anyone want to look at my new spec before I commit to it? |
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| 23:21.57 | Shirik | I forgot to write down my old one so I forgot what to go back to >< |
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| 23:22.31 | charon | Shirik: class/tree? |
| 23:22.40 | Shirik | priest/pve (holy) |
| 23:22.52 | Shirik | I had an awesome spec before but I forgot what it was =( |
| 23:23.12 | charon | ah, can't help you there i'm afraid, i'm a druid |
| 23:23.15 | vhaarr | well I've raided as a holy priest since release except a few months as shadow during Naxxramas |
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| 23:23.19 | vhaarr | if you want my inpu |
| 23:23.21 | vhaarr | input* |
| 23:23.37 | Shirik | I used to have lightwell, I dropped that this time: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0zhhZfLxccMqVhVo |
| 23:24.34 | Shirik | Lightwell is actually decent |
| 23:24.39 | Shirik | I just don't have enough uses for it |
| 23:24.44 | NivFreak | I love lightwell in ZA |
| 23:24.49 | NivFreak | it's fantastic |
| 23:25.06 | Lukian | Kemayo, it's a dot, which in my mind means repeatable |
| 23:25.19 | DasFool | I have a question about the JoinChannelByName wow function. anyone around that may be able to lend a hand? |
| 23:25.36 | NivFreak | Shirik: 5/5 spiritual guidance over holy spec? |
| 23:25.40 | Shirik | Lukian: ? |
| 23:25.52 | NivFreak | or mental agility |
| 23:26.01 | Shirik | it's only 1% :/ |
| 23:26.07 | Lukian | Shirik, scrollback two hours, or search 'lukian' :p |
| 23:26.10 | Shirik | Yeah I think I had 5/5 mental agility last time |
| 23:26.16 | NivFreak | I'd go 5/5 mental agility for a CoH build |
| 23:26.40 | Merl_ | Holy Reach is also pritty nice for CoH |
| 23:26.47 | NivFreak | 3 yards? |
| 23:26.48 | NivFreak | meh |
| 23:27.00 | vhaarr | Shirik: while I personally hate the idea of not having 5/5 Mental Agility and DS, if you want CoH your spec is nice |
| 23:27.00 | NivFreak | I'm not a fan |
| 23:27.09 | Shirik | I can't drop spiritual healing below 4/5 anyway |
| 23:27.27 | vhaarr | Shirik: I'd drop Inner Focus for another point in Mental Agility, and remove one point from Healing Prayers as well to get it 5/5 |
| 23:27.44 | Shirik | ah I love healing prayers too much |
| 23:27.46 | Shirik | I overuse pom |
| 23:27.48 | vhaarr | Shirik: what mana regen time I get from Inner Focus is easily made up for in pots anyway |
| 23:27.50 | NivFreak | I prefer this |
| 23:27.53 | NivFreak | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxZfLxccMaVhVo |
| 23:27.59 | NivFreak | and I'm a PoM spammer too ;) |
| 23:28.18 | NeoTron | NivFreak: 15 yrd vs 18 yrd radius is quite significant difference in area covered |
| 23:28.27 | vhaarr | Shirik: realise that PoM is actually a instant cast spell as well |
| 23:28.29 | NivFreak | NeoTron: but for 2 talent points? I dunno, not a fan. |
| 23:28.37 | vhaarr | Shirik: 5/5 Mental Agility pwns |
| 23:28.40 | Monztah | I'd say go 4/5 Silent Resolve, and 1/2 Healing Prayers and put those points in Mental Agility instead. Depending on how much you use CoH/ProH, ofc |
| 23:28.48 | Shirik | That's what I had! |
| 23:28.51 | Shirik | 4/5 silent resolve |
| 23:28.53 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:28.53 | Monztah | Oh :P |
| 23:28.56 | NivFreak | you had 5/5 |
| 23:28.59 | NivFreak | I like 4/5 |
| 23:28.59 | vhaarr | Shirik: not in the spec you linked |
| 23:29.07 | Shirik | I know |
| 23:29.08 | NivFreak | and 4/5 holy spec/spritiual guidance |
| 23:29.11 | Shirik | I'm trying to remember what I used to have |
| 23:29.33 | NivFreak | I don't have enough mp5 to properly support a CoH build though :) |
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| 23:30.02 | Shirik | I'll admit I like DS |
| 23:30.12 | Shirik | But not every priest needs it |
| 23:30.15 | Shirik | Otherwise it's a waste |
| 23:30.16 | NivFreak | only one does |
| 23:30.16 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:30.33 | NivFreak | it's certainly more fun to be the CoH priest |
| 23:30.56 | DasFool | in the past, when using JoinChannelByName after logging out, and back in the player would still be in the channel, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Anyone else run into this? |
| 23:31.41 | NeoTron | NivFreak: you gain 44% surface area |
| 23:32.00 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I'm sure it depends on the fight ;) |
| 23:32.03 | NeoTron | wait that's not right |
| 23:32.07 | NivFreak | on weather it's worth it |
| 23:32.12 | NivFreak | whether |
| 23:32.22 | NeoTron | ah no I was correct |
| 23:32.47 | NeoTron | for sure but it's not useless |
| 23:33.06 | NivFreak | yea, but there's so many good talents in disc/holy |
| 23:33.10 | NivFreak | I can never take it |
| 23:33.11 | NeoTron | 3 yrd doesn't sound like a lot but a 36 vs 30 diameter circle is significant |
| 23:33.12 | Shirik | dear god |
| 23:33.21 | Shirik | I have 10k mana and 1537 healing with no talents |
| 23:33.29 | NeoTron | CoH is an amazing spell for some fights |
| 23:33.30 | NivFreak | CoH shines on melee group healing usually |
| 23:33.37 | Shirik | at mag it's fun |
| 23:33.37 | NeoTron | like RoS, Hex-Lord etc |
| 23:33.39 | NivFreak | and they are usually within 30 yards |
| 23:33.41 | Shirik | esp mag trash |
| 23:34.07 | NeoTron | it's often better than chain heal |
| 23:34.22 | NeoTron | depending on the situation of course |
| 23:34.25 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:34.34 | NivFreak | getting 5 targets with no overheal is hot |
| 23:34.48 | NeoTron | but both hexlord and RoS has predictable, raid-wide, ever-increasing damage dealt |
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| 23:35.04 | NivFreak | spirt bolts are pretty easy to heal |
| 23:35.04 | NivFreak | but yea |
| 23:35.10 | NeoTron | well |
| 23:35.15 | NeoTron | tried hexlord without a priest or shaman? |
| 23:35.22 | NivFreak | no |
| 23:35.27 | NivFreak | if we have no shaman, I cancel ZA :) |
| 23:35.33 | NeoTron | it's pretty damn impossible :P |
| 23:35.39 | xyu | we never have shaman or priest :( |
| 23:35.39 | NeoTron | we once had 2 pallies and a druid |
| 23:35.46 | NivFreak | chain heal is king in ZA |
| 23:35.56 | NivFreak | CoH can't even keep up from what i've seen |
| 23:36.00 | NivFreak | but it's still very good |
| 23:36.34 | NivFreak | btw, lightwell should pwn for phase 3 zul'jin |
| 23:36.35 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:36.49 | NeoTron | chain heal works in different situations |
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| 23:37.07 | NeoTron | see lightwell would own... if it didn't fricking break on damage |
| 23:37.26 | NivFreak | but casting in phase 3 means you take dmg |
| 23:37.28 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:37.38 | NivFreak | and you can avoid the tornados |
| 23:38.00 | NivFreak | we use it on the dragonhawk to have a priest solo heal the MT until enrage |
| 23:38.18 | NivFreak | I still don't spec it myself though |
| 23:38.19 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:38.42 | NivFreak | but I do spec holy nova ;P |
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| 23:39.34 | NivFreak | my favorite useless spell |
| 23:40.24 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58021 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Add dropdown menu code to pin right-click (drycode) |
| 23:42.50 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r58022 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: Add missing info[] table declaration |
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| 23:44.30 | DasFool | is there a good and bad way to request help? I don't want to spam the channel or anything. |
| 23:44.52 | Funkeh` | ~asktoask |
| 23:44.52 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:44.57 | Kivin | beat me to it Funkeh`:P |
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| 23:45.48 | DasFool | i'm new hear, some irc channels are more anal than others. I don't want to get banned for something I don't know about. |
| 23:46.02 | Antiarc | GOOD: Hi, I have a question about X. Why Y?; BAD: IT DOESN'T WORK, FIX IT BEFORE I TORCH YOUR HOUSES. |
| 23:46.59 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, k, £100 |
| 23:46.59 | DasFool | in the past, when using JoinChannelByName after logging out, and back in the player would still be in the channel, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Anyone else run into this? |
| 23:46.59 | Antiarc | DasFool: Not I. Works fine for me. |
| 23:46.59 | DasFool | I left my torch in the bank :( |
| 23:46.59 | Antiarc | DasFool: Check your chat-cache.txt after logging out? |
| 23:47.01 | Funkeh` | later |
| 23:47.28 | DasFool | strange |
| 23:49.26 | DasFool | JoinChannelByName(nameOfChannel) is all that is needed right? password and frameid are optional? |
| 23:52.17 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r58023 10/branches/GatherMate/Display.lua: GatherMate: added timer stub |
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