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| 00:03.10 | Provus | I was turned off by grid's lack of color customization, I didn't like the fact you couldn't turn off the ugly gradients. |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r57928 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-8 | - More flexible API (can now retrieve heals after the time frame). |
| 00:04.48 | CIA-8 | - Internal optimization of data access (avoid lookups). |
| 00:05.55 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r57929 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 00:05.55 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 00:05.55 | CIA-8 | - Bump the rev!!! |
| 00:06.22 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r57930 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 00:06.22 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 00:06.22 | CIA-8 | - Bump the rev ffs!!!! |
| 00:06.36 | Gnarfoz | ? ;D |
| 00:08.21 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57931 10VisualHeal/ (PitBull_VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.lua): |
| 00:08.21 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 00:08.21 | CIA-8 | - Adapt to API changes in LibHealComm-3.0. |
| 00:08.21 | CIA-8 | - Slight internal optimizations. |
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| 00:11.50 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 00:12.27 | Provus | Wow Shadowed made an answer to MagicTrack? |
| 00:12.48 | Xinhuan | i even named his addon: Afflicted ;p |
| 00:12.55 | Provus | I'ma give it a try. |
| 00:13.00 | Shadowed | i always make someone else name my addons |
| 00:13.07 | Shadowed | honest was from mikma |
| 00:13.10 | Provus | Oh hi Shadowed. |
| 00:13.29 | Xinhuan | credit my naming :D |
| 00:13.37 | Provus | Do you want to hear a feature request? |
| 00:13.46 | haste | HasteBlock, DamnTekkub, any others? |
| 00:14.01 | Shadowed | sure why not |
| 00:14.04 | Lukian | are North101, KTrigger or Synthe ever in ehre? |
| 00:14.06 | Lukian | here* |
| 00:14.28 | Provus | Diminishing Return timers. NECB is the only addon that does it, and it's a very bloated all-or-nothing addon. |
| 00:14.49 | Lukian | I'd like to thank the for Numen, despite not being updated in the last month, it takes Yata into a dark alley and beats it senseless. |
| 00:15.08 | Shadowed | thats beyond the scope |
| 00:15.13 | Shadowed | it's OTHERs timers not yours |
| 00:15.25 | Provus | How is it other's timers? |
| 00:15.26 | Shadowed | and i'm not even going to touch DR given how much of a bitch combat log tracking is |
| 00:15.31 | Shadowed | Because I said so? |
| 00:15.47 | Provus | Isn't improved counterspell someone else's timer too? |
| 00:16.05 | Lukian | so quick question, Afflicited will tell me how long it is till a paladin can divine shield / blessing of prot again? |
| 00:16.25 | Xinhuan | Provus: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10582.0 |
| 00:16.28 | Provus | Okay, well, was just putting that out there. |
| 00:16.35 | Shadowed | Hence "others" |
| 00:17.06 | Xinhuan | Shadowed, progress on optionhouse? |
| 00:17.16 | Shadowed | Cryect is afk |
| 00:17.17 | Shadowed | so no |
| 00:17.19 | Provus | Xin: it would mostly be for arena, and two mage teams don't really function well |
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| 00:17.31 | Xinhuan | i only gave sheeps as an example |
| 00:17.40 | Xinhuan | and my example only used 1 mage |
| 00:18.09 | Provus | It could recalculate diminishin returns by looking at how long the debuff is lasting on the target. But that might be too much to ask for |
| 00:18.28 | Shadowed | [15:22] <Shadowed> and i'm not even going to touch DR given how much of a bitch combat log tracking is |
| 00:18.29 | Xinhuan | you cannot see how long the debuff is lasting on the target unless YOU casted that debuff |
| 00:18.33 | Xinhuan | did yu even read my post? |
| 00:18.38 | wereHamster | does ace have an addon that manages frames, lets the user move them, snap to each others' edges or bind to each other? |
| 00:18.51 | Xinhuan | wereHamster: no |
| 00:18.57 | Provus | Hmm really? I didn't know that. |
| 00:18.59 | Xinhuan | there is no such standard |
| 00:19.07 | Xinhuan | well now you know Provus |
| 00:19.25 | Provus | So how does NECB do it? |
| 00:19.26 | Xinhuan | feel free to verify that on AV |
| 00:19.26 | Orionshock | wereHamster: there is however LibStickyFrames, that facilitates this... |
| 00:19.32 | Xinhuan | it guesses. A lot |
| 00:19.46 | Xinhuan | and uses syncing if available - with possible race conditions |
| 00:19.58 | Xinhuan | far from accurate |
| 00:20.10 | Provus | Okay, what if you scrapped duration tracking and instead just did something very basic. Whenever the effect on the target ends, it starts the timer. No duration tracking. |
| 00:20.30 | Xinhuan | ...you can't track the effect unless someone in your raid/party is targetting him |
| 00:20.41 | Provus | Generally people in arena use focus targets |
| 00:20.52 | Xinhuan | except you can't see your party member's focus targets |
| 00:20.55 | Xinhuan | your point? |
| 00:21.01 | Provus | ..I don't see how that's relevant. |
| 00:21.09 | Xinhuan | end result - syncing is still required |
| 00:21.22 | Xinhuan | and race condition issues applies |
| 00:21.25 | Xinhuan | too complex |
| 00:21.29 | Provus | Why not just have it.. not add a timer if you didn't have the guy targeted, or no one else in the party did? |
| 00:21.36 | Provus | Still hell of a lot better than NECB in allr egards |
| 00:21.40 | Xinhuan | then it would be inaccurate |
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| 00:21.45 | Xinhuan | nobody wants to write inaccurate addons |
| 00:22.02 | Xinhuan | its like writing a rogue energy ticker bar that goes off-timing |
| 00:22.05 | Xinhuan | it becomes useless |
| 00:22.09 | Provus | Like I said, it wouldn't be that inaccurate since people tend to pick one guy to continue CCing |
| 00:22.17 | Provus | and focus him |
| 00:22.20 | Provus | as in focus target |
| 00:22.28 | kagaro_ | i just macro it for shackle |
| 00:22.37 | Xinhuan | renewing CC is the hardest to track FYI, because the combat log does not generate any event for renewing a CC |
| 00:23.07 | Xinhuan | its like rebuffing yourself, your combat log doesn't tell you or event hint you got rebuffed |
| 00:23.11 | Xinhuan | even* |
| 00:23.28 | Provus | But that's part of duration tracking. |
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| 00:23.31 | Provus | All you'd have to track is the fade |
| 00:23.44 | Xinhuan | alright, you write the addon then! |
| 00:23.53 | kenlyric | which is dumb, since the *game* obviously knows it's renewed. |
| 00:23.57 | kenlyric | gogo 2.4, hopefully. |
| 00:24.06 | Xinhuan | i'm saying its exceedingly difficult to write such an addon, and given the 2.4 changes coming soon |
| 00:24.09 | Xinhuan | its totally unfeasible |
| 00:24.52 | Provus | Hey I was just trying to make a point. |
| 00:25.00 | Xinhuan | so was i |
| 00:25.23 | kagaro_ | wihtout 2.4 would be difficult, duplicate mob names and such |
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| 00:25.51 | Provus | Kag: I'm speaking mostly about pvp |
| 00:26.30 | Provus | The point I was trying to make is that the diminishing return timers themselves wouldn't be a difficult thing, it's the duration tracking that complicates things. |
| 00:26.36 | kagaro_ | that is stil an issue with hunters, on Ysera a lot of hunters name their pet to be the same as themselves |
| 00:26.45 | kagaro_ | for pvp |
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| 00:27.09 | Gnarfoz | if it's not difficult, do it. obviously opinions differ on the difficulty ^^ |
| 00:27.41 | wereHamster | well, I came around updating one of my old frame-mangement addons and it came out quite well, screenshot: http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/wow-ifm.png, short video: http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/WoW-IFrameManager.avi, coments are welcome :) |
| 00:27.50 | Provus | Gnar: Again, just making a point. |
| 00:27.59 | Xinhuan | if it was easy, people would have done it |
| 00:28.26 | Provus | ..MagicTrack was out for god knows how long and that's a pretty tiny addon that no one duplicated until now |
| 00:28.41 | Provus | Most mod authors don't pvp is the thing. |
| 00:28.53 | _rane | magictrack hasn't been "out" |
| 00:28.58 | _rane | until recently |
| 00:29.01 | Xinhuan | magictrack was never released |
| 00:29.06 | Xinhuan | the author kept it for private use |
| 00:29.07 | Provus | When I say 'out' I meant 'was in the status of being used' |
| 00:29.08 | Fisker- | it's linux wereHamster |
| 00:29.10 | Fisker- | i dislike you |
| 00:29.15 | Xinhuan | so that his team is in advantage |
| 00:29.19 | yasuo | n8 |
| 00:29.23 | yasuo | linux>all |
| 00:29.30 | Provus | That's my point, though. It was a simple addon that no one else made. |
| 00:30.08 | Fisker- | is that guy in the lower right the robot from hitchhiker's guide? :P |
| 00:30.30 | Xinhuan | simple as it is, its still not accurate, for example, if a mage doesn't have improved counterspell, and casts CS, and misses, CSes nothing |
| 00:30.39 | Xinhuan | no combat log event is generated for anybody in the entire arena |
| 00:30.54 | Xinhuan | this means the CS is used, nobody but the mage that casted it knows its on cd |
| 00:30.56 | Provus | I'm aware of that. But some information is still better than no information, and 17/0/44 is a very commons pec. |
| 00:31.29 | Xinhuan | might change with 2.3.2 |
| 00:31.42 | Provus | lol |
| 00:31.47 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: nice |
| 00:32.03 | Provus | Fire and arcane still have a long way to go unfortunately. |
| 00:32.33 | Provus | But any fire and arcane spec you see is probably still going to take imp CS |
| 00:32.44 | Xinhuan | fire works in a 5v5 with 4dps lol |
| 00:33.05 | Provus | With only one ice block they'd be made into a focus target. |
| 00:33.26 | Provus | If they had kept cold snap in the 11 point position, it'd be viable |
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| 00:34.38 | Provus | Fire's main problem lies within it's 41 point talent. It's expensive to cast, it gives a shared cooldown to Cone of Cold (which is stupid), and it is hard to aim |
| 00:34.56 | Xinhuan | 26/11/21 possible to get pom/pyro/coldsnap with 58 points :D |
| 00:35.09 | Provus | ..you can do that in live, too, but you don't see people doing it. |
| 00:35.12 | Xinhuan | no ice barrier though |
| 00:38.18 | thul | i still need the ravencrest-allyer:( |
| 00:38.42 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57932 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Scroll.lua: Prat: Lets you choose if you want text to be displayed top to bottom, or bottom to top. Currently the setting is applied to all chatframes (cant set them individually) |
| 00:41.21 | chiper | xin: my GF and I both agree, _routes is the best addon we've seen for improving farming |
| 00:41.46 | chiper | soon as I showed her it she said "you gotta give me that" |
| 00:41.53 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:42.11 | Xinhuan | will write a ace3 version sometime in the far future |
| 00:42.20 | kenlyric | yeah, I bet she was talking about an addon |
| 00:42.52 | chiper | she's got a cold right now, wont let me touch her |
| 00:43.51 | winkiller | lol |
| 00:44.15 | kenlyric | neat, gta3 runs on this crapular laptop |
| 00:44.35 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57933 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: Removed the copy as HTML option since it isnt implemented. Only plain text, and BBCode are supported atm. |
| 00:44.42 | Vexir | Routes is really cool, I wonder what the optimization algorithim is? |
| 00:45.17 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57934 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: finished adding fish node icon lists |
| 00:45.29 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: you gona make it work with GatherMate ? |
| 00:45.38 | Orionshock | just call it Trade_Routes :D |
| 00:45.50 | Xinhuan | ya, it will be a joint effort |
| 00:46.33 | kagaro_ | adding all these icons sucks |
| 00:46.45 | Xinhuan | dir /b > temp.txt |
| 00:47.22 | kenlyric | a mapmod independent gathering mod? |
| 00:47.28 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:48.06 | Xinhuan | removing dependencies where its not needed |
| 00:48.14 | kenlyric | but different from gatherer? |
| 00:48.47 | kagaro_ | trying for lighter kenlyric |
| 00:49.01 | kagaro_ | also tracking gas clouds, and not bothring with treasure |
| 00:49.48 | kenlyric | until someone writes _treasure |
| 00:50.21 | Xinhuan | going to rework the map part a bit so it doesn't calculate 10000 things to draw it |
| 00:50.51 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57935 10IFrameManager/ (6 files in 3 dirs): IFrameManager: check in changes so I don't loose those. |
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| 00:53.49 | chiper | ok, think I have a bug. tried to make a route for wetlands showing just steelbloom, which is just 38 nodes. but when I click add, it says 143 nodes and makes this huge route hitting everything else |
| 00:54.38 | chiper | I think it's including the two other routes |
| 00:54.56 | Xinhuan | delete and remake heh |
| 00:55.04 | chiper | I did, three times |
| 00:55.16 | Xinhuan | i didn't "reset" the selected node types |
| 00:55.23 | Xinhuan | if you get what i mean |
| 00:55.30 | Xinhuan | refresh the dropdown |
| 00:55.36 | chiper | ah |
| 00:55.39 | Xinhuan | by clicking stuff on and off |
| 00:55.51 | chiper | nope, still gets 143 |
| 00:56.04 | Xinhuan | so what is it including? |
| 00:56.25 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 00:56.37 | Orionshock | ok so wow disconnectes you when you try to use \n in trade.... |
| 00:56.54 | winkiller | lol |
| 00:57.24 | Orionshock | SendChatMessage(" \n eh?", "CHANNEL", GetDefaultLanguage("player"), 2) |
| 00:57.40 | ckknight | Orionshock: among other characters |
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| 00:58.04 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57936 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: added mine icons to map |
| 00:58.07 | ckknight | \124, \000, any non-proper UTF-8 string |
| 00:58.19 | chiper | looks like its including liferoot, kingsblood, and steelbloom |
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| 00:58.32 | chiper | I deleted my other routes, thinking that might be it, but no help |
| 00:58.51 | chiper | let me try reloading ui |
| 00:58.52 | Xinhuan | reloadui and try again |
| 00:59.52 | chiper | there, that fixed it |
| 00:59.59 | chiper | something bugged in the route creation |
| 01:00.10 | Xinhuan | i created a route for stranglekelp :D |
| 01:00.14 | Xinhuan | try it |
| 01:00.16 | Xinhuan | its pretty cool |
| 01:00.29 | chiper | yeah, I made one earlier |
| 01:00.43 | chiper | was farming it for agility pots |
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| 01:02.42 | winkiller | are there already some in the package? |
| 01:02.48 | winkiller | I never ever used routes |
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| 01:02.53 | winkiller | but enabled since release :P |
| 01:02.59 | winkiller | guess because I never farm stugfgf |
| 01:03.03 | winkiller | -gg |
| 01:03.07 | Xinhuan | no, you create them to your liking :D |
| 01:03.40 | Xinhuan | sometimes the route is so obvious its already the "minimum" optimal route |
| 01:03.57 | Xinhuan | and soemtimes, you just have this compulsion to click the "optimize" button every 30 seconds |
| 01:04.06 | Xinhuan | and see if it generates one that is 100 yards shorter |
| 01:04.56 | Xinhuan | gets addictive |
| 01:05.03 | chiper | will the optimize make a different route ever time |
| 01:05.25 | Xinhuan | possible, because the route generated is semi-random |
| 01:05.44 | Xinhuan | for small numbers of nodes, say under 75, the route generated is most likely the best possible one |
| 01:05.54 | Xinhuan | for larger datasets, like > 200 nodes |
| 01:06.08 | Xinhuan | due to the exponential increase, i had to prune a lot of things |
| 01:06.29 | Xinhuan | so generating 10 routes will likely to give you 10 different results, but all with similar length |
| 01:06.50 | Xinhuan | at least you know everyone won't be following the same damn route |
| 01:06.57 | Xinhuan | with wowhead data |
| 01:07.04 | chiper | yeah |
| 01:07.32 | chiper | and wowhead |
| 01:07.38 | chiper | is never complete |
| 01:08.03 | chiper | Im all the time finding nodes it doesnt have |
| 01:08.05 | Xinhuan | if you find a new node, _routes will insert it appropriately to routes with that nodetype |
| 01:08.16 | chiper | yeah, i noticed |
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| 01:08.29 | Xinhuan | it just finds the best insertion point, so overtime, it may need reoptimization |
| 01:08.41 | ckknight | do people speak Spanish in San Francisco? |
| 01:08.53 | chiper | the mexicans do :P |
| 01:08.54 | ckknight | or is that just the parts further south |
| 01:08.55 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:09.30 | chiper | there's spanish speakers all over CA |
| 01:09.40 | chiper | especially in the cities |
| 01:12.41 | ckknight | but will it be necessary that I need to interact with them and know some Spanish? |
| 01:13.06 | chiper | not unless you want to buy spanish food |
| 01:13.15 | chiper | erm, mexican |
| 01:13.29 | ckknight | Pollo con carne? |
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| 01:13.35 | chiper | lol |
| 01:13.36 | ckknight | err |
| 01:13.42 | ckknight | ¿Pollo con carne? |
| 01:14.06 | ckknight | Eres cabron. |
| 01:14.50 | Xinhuan | kagaro, i fixed a bug in talismonger-3.0 that was causing nodes to be added twice (or rather, fire the talismonger_node event twice), did you fix that in gathermate? |
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| 01:15.09 | kagaro_ | what was the bug, |
| 01:15.16 | chiper | even then, most of the good mexican places have english speaking staff |
| 01:15.18 | Xinhuan | hmm let me look at changelog |
| 01:16.04 | Xinhuan | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Talismonger-3.0?cs=57447 |
| 01:16.06 | Xinhuan | this commit |
| 01:16.35 | Xinhuan | i moved a single line down |
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| 01:17.18 | Xinhuan | [1/6 09:11:59] <Stanzilla> Xinhuan: why are some of the mine node icons added twice in GatherMate? |
| 01:17.19 | Xinhuan | [1/6 09:12:15] <Stanzilla> and "rich_throium.tga" is a typo |
| 01:17.47 | chiper | heh, rich throwium |
| 01:17.57 | chiper | sounds like a gnome tossing joke |
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| 01:19.52 | kagaro_ | you cut/paste and retype 114 entries |
| 01:19.57 | kagaro_ | and dont make a mistake |
| 01:20.27 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 01:20.52 | kagaro_ | and some icons are re-used |
| 01:21.18 | kagaro_ | oose covered thoruim, and small thorium get the same icon |
| 01:21.52 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57937 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: added gas and herb icon maps |
| 01:23.31 | Stanzilla | "blck_lotus.tga" *hides* |
| 01:23.48 | kagaro_ | Xinhaun i redid the detetion stuff somewhat .. i tested mining herbalism and fishing |
| 01:23.54 | kagaro_ | rofl stanzilla |
| 01:23.59 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 01:24.00 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 01:24.10 | Xinhuan | i don't know, ask Stanzilla, he's been doing some testing with it :D |
| 01:24.23 | Stanzilla | o rly? |
| 01:24.38 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57938 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: typo fix , thanks Stanzilla |
| 01:24.40 | Xinhuan | i assume so, you're pretty quick at detecting bugs! |
| 01:24.54 | Stanzilla | I just read fisheye diffs^^ |
| 01:25.16 | Kuja^ | doesn't make a difference i suppose :P |
| 01:25.26 | Stanzilla | ouw :( |
| 01:25.32 | Xinhuan | hey he cared enough to read diffs |
| 01:25.34 | kagaro_ | hmm guess its time to start the map icons |
| 01:26.18 | Xinhuan | i will stab you if your code is bad :D |
| 01:26.55 | kagaro_ | < runs away! |
| 01:27.06 | Xinhuan | hmm why did i fly to stormwind |
| 01:27.26 | kagaro_ | i should be farming for raid mats, but soo not in the mood |
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| 01:27.39 | Xinhuan | buy from AH |
| 01:27.48 | kagaro_ | i think il be ok ive got 20 flasks of pure death banked |
| 01:27.59 | matss | Does pitbull take a lot of resources? |
| 01:28.10 | Stanzilla | I need Major Fire Protection Potions for tomorrow :/ |
| 01:29.10 | ckknight | how tall is Mike Huckabee? |
| 01:29.10 | Xinhuan | only if you use every frill option |
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| 01:29.22 | kagaro_ | Stanzilla for what ? |
| 01:29.31 | Stanzilla | kagaro_: Illidan |
| 01:29.36 | kagaro_ | ck: he doesnt look very tall |
| 01:29.47 | kagaro_ | *envies stanzilla* |
| 01:30.03 | kagaro_ | my guild is stuck on kael |
| 01:30.08 | Xinhuan | hmm i have a raid in 6 hours, maybe i shoudl sleep |
| 01:30.18 | thul | is resilience breaking enhancement shamans in pvp? |
| 01:30.20 | Stanzilla | kael sucks |
| 01:30.23 | kagaro_ | orange fever |
| 01:30.40 | kagaro_ | e eryone stops in phase 2 to loot and the weapons get out of control |
| 01:31.15 | Xinhuan | only dps and healers should loot, the tank tanking the weapons can loot too after its dead |
| 01:31.21 | kagaro_ | Stanzilla: the trash to kael sucks hard |
| 01:31.31 | Xinhuan | but the tank for the axe and the tank for p3 |
| 01:31.41 | Xinhuan | should have someone trade them the shield |
| 01:31.57 | Stanzilla | kagaro_: will be nerfed in 2.3.2 but yeah it sucks |
| 01:32.15 | kagaro_ | we got a bear tank on the axe, so he ends up running trying to go loot staff |
| 01:32.27 | kagaro_ | and not wait for someone to trade it to him |
| 01:32.32 | Aens|Superiority | tell that druid to not bother with the staff... |
| 01:32.38 | Aens|Superiority | there is no reason to get it at all. |
| 01:33.03 | Stanzilla | depends on the group he is in |
| 01:33.05 | Xinhuan | it is imperative that someone trades him the dagger, rather than the staff, so he can dispel ppl in phase 4 (in tank gear) |
| 01:33.15 | Aens|Superiority | Stanzilla: you have to shift out to activate the staff. |
| 01:33.35 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 01:33.37 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 01:33.58 | kagaro_ | we just dont have great balance for it, last night we had 8 .. count them 8 paladins |
| 01:33.58 | Aens|Superiority | better to just have a shadow priest stay up there. |
| 01:34.02 | Aos | hello, is this a good place to ask questions about ace modding? |
| 01:34.08 | Xinhuan | lol 8? |
| 01:34.12 | kagaro_ | < is shadow priest #2 |
| 01:34.14 | Xinhuan | we only bring 6 healers to kael |
| 01:34.15 | Stanzilla | 8 is a bit much |
| 01:34.22 | Stanzilla | < shadow priest |
| 01:34.27 | Stanzilla | #2.. |
| 01:34.28 | kagaro_ | 8 pallys, 3 druids |
| 01:34.30 | Xinhuan | 6 healers, 3 tanks, the rest are dps |
| 01:34.39 | kagaro_ | we got a dps lacking right now |
| 01:34.49 | Stanzilla | bring more locks :p |
| 01:34.58 | kagaro_ | we only have 3 in the entire guild |
| 01:35.04 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 01:35.15 | kagaro_ | lucky to get 2 on during a raid |
| 01:35.17 | Xinhuan | believe me, 6 is enough :D |
| 01:35.39 | kagaro_ | well 1 is a tank-a-din and one is a dps-a-din |
| 01:35.53 | Stanzilla | aka loladin |
| 01:35.56 | kagaro_ | but we bring a tank druid and usually a tree druid as well |
| 01:35.58 | chiper | aos: yes, it is |
| 01:36.04 | kagaro_ | too much healing not enough dps |
| 01:36.08 | Xinhuan | ret pallies are alright now Stanzilla |
| 01:36.10 | thul | I can transfer my imba rogue :-P |
| 01:36.10 | sylvanaar | ~asktoask |
| 01:36.11 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:36.11 | Stanzilla | we hat 2 warriors and 1 druid |
| 01:36.16 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: I know^^ |
| 01:36.23 | Xinhuan | their dps is actually competitive |
| 01:36.36 | Stanzilla | yeah we have one in the raid, too |
| 01:36.38 | kagaro_ | im soo close to breaking 1100 +dam .. drops have been crap lately |
| 01:36.53 | Xinhuan | we have 4.. yes FOUR cataclysm's edge drop in a row |
| 01:36.55 | Xinhuan | its stupid |
| 01:37.05 | Stanzilla | kagaro_: link to your armory? :P |
| 01:37.08 | chiper | purl: and if you're in the wrong place, you'll be mercililously torn apart for the error of your ways |
| 01:37.12 | Xinhuan | and 3 healing staffs |
| 01:38.04 | ckknight | http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article56107.html |
| 01:38.20 | Aos | thanks purl, trying to get a handle on Ace frames. If I am using the framework should I inherit from AceEventFrame or AceStateFrame rather than UIParent? |
| 01:38.23 | kagaro_ | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysera&n=Moonfann |
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| 01:39.01 | kagaro_ | need 60 more badges to get the offhand and trinket |
| 01:39.39 | Stanzilla | I want the crusader cardset |
| 01:39.41 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 01:39.50 | kagaro_ | it is awsome |
| 01:40.00 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 01:40.00 | kagaro_ | I want the shruken head trinket from the hex lord |
| 01:40.13 | Stanzilla | hm yeah |
| 01:40.22 | Stanzilla | it's bugged atm |
| 01:40.26 | kagaro_ | our drop luck has been horrible |
| 01:40.27 | Stanzilla | but will be fixed with 2.3.2 |
| 01:40.28 | kagaro_ | it is ? |
| 01:40.30 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 01:40.35 | Stanzilla | no shared cooldown with other trinkets |
| 01:40.56 | Stanzilla | so you can activate 2 trinkets at a time |
| 01:41.01 | kagaro_ | i dont mind the shared cooldown when it gets fixed, still more +dam than crescent moon |
| 01:41.09 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 01:41.16 | Stanzilla | I want teh skull of gul'dan :D |
| 01:41.56 | kagaro_ | we have only killed vashj like 6 times soo still waiting for T5 helm |
| 01:42.00 | Ellipsis | no me! |
| 01:42.24 | Stanzilla | T5 set bonus is awesome |
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| 01:42.31 | Stanzilla | no more mana problems |
| 01:42.38 | Stanzilla | no more chain drinking of mana pots |
| 01:43.08 | kagaro_ | i want the helm bad to get a MSD in it |
| 01:43.32 | Stanzilla | I'm still wearing T4 head...so bad :( |
| 01:45.34 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r57939 10TankPoints/TankPointsCalculator.lua: |
| 01:45.34 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 01:45.34 | CIA-8 | - Add emacs modeline to Calculator |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r57940 10TankPoints/ (TankPointsCalculator.lua TankPointsCalculator.xml): |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-8 | - Calculator does Guaranteed Reduction and Effective Health |
| 01:45.48 | CIA-8 | 03aliset * r57941 10TankPoints/ (TankPointsCalculator.lua TankPointsCalculator.xml): |
| 01:45.48 | CIA-8 | TankPoints: |
| 01:45.49 | CIA-8 | - Effective Health with Block now appears in the calculator for warriors. |
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| 01:49.09 | kagaro_ | crap myabe i should have put my laptop on power just noticed 20 mins of battery left |
| 01:50.00 | kagaro_ | I put the power on |
| 01:50.14 | Fisker- | may your power supply burn in the fiery depths of mordor then |
| 01:50.29 | kagaro_ | its a mac so it will outlast my toshiba for sure :P |
| 01:50.55 | Fisker- | not really |
| 01:51.05 | Fisker- | your battery will fail and toshiba's wont |
| 01:51.33 | kagaro_ | i havent had any issue yet |
| 01:51.58 | ckknight | hey Seerah |
| 01:52.03 | ckknight | haven't seen you in a while |
| 01:52.13 | Seerah | I hadn't been getting on irc much lately |
| 01:52.19 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:52.29 | Seerah | hadn't seen you much lately :P |
| 01:52.43 | ckknight | I suppose not |
| 01:52.47 | Seerah | :) |
| 01:52.47 | ckknight | I'm running away soon |
| 01:52.52 | Seerah | no wai |
| 01:52.56 | ckknight | ya wai |
| 01:53.00 | ckknight | complex process |
| 01:53.02 | kenlyric | circus? |
| 01:53.08 | Seerah | tree house? |
| 01:53.10 | kenlyric | gonna be a clown? |
| 01:53.13 | Fisker- | blasphemy and madness btw |
| 01:53.14 | Seerah | fake kidnapping? |
| 01:53.28 | Fisker- | I GOT CANDY GET IN THE VAN |
| 01:53.34 | Seerah | I said FAKE ;) |
| 01:54.01 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57942 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Update the bonus frame when selecting talents. Update the bonus frame when saving to a profile that is being compared against. Change the way +X% calculations are done so that they stack cumulatively. |
| 01:54.01 | Ellipsis | I've got ckknight's candy right here |
| 01:54.09 | Seerah | oh noes |
| 01:54.13 | Fisker- | want |
| 01:54.19 | Fisker- | can't sleep :( |
| 01:54.23 | Fisker- | because you suck |
| 01:54.25 | Seerah | so you want sugar? |
| 01:54.48 | Fisker- | i got sugar |
| 01:54.49 | Fisker- | get in the van |
| 01:55.09 | Seerah | no thank you, I just had dinner. I'm a bit full atm ;) |
| 01:55.47 | ckknight | yep, I'm gonna run away, then wisk Ellipsis off to someplace unknown |
| 01:55.54 | Seerah | :( |
| 01:56.04 | Fisker- | i got sugar laxatives |
| 01:56.05 | Fisker- | GET IN THE VAN |
| 01:56.07 | Ellipsis | we'll send postcards, don't worry |
| 01:56.17 | Xinhuan | hmm this function is going to be fucking huge if it takes 6 lines of code per talent * 50+ talents |
| 01:56.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan: link code |
| 01:56.46 | Xinhuan | i haven't written it yet |
| 01:56.47 | ckknight | Seerah: you wish it was you? |
| 01:56.54 | Seerah | nah |
| 01:57.07 | Xinhuan | thinking perhaps there's a better way of doing it |
| 01:57.21 | Aos | what's it for xinhuan? |
| 01:57.32 | Gngsk | wowequip |
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| 02:01.08 | Aos | that program looks like a hella of a lot of work |
| 02:02.05 | Xinhuan | think i'll just sleep on it, when i wake up, i'll probably have a solution |
| 02:02.36 | Stanzilla | yeah print it und put it under your pillow :P |
| 02:03.11 | Xinhuan | i am environmentally friendly and never print code ;p |
| 02:03.33 | Stanzilla | humm |
| 02:03.37 | Stanzilla | got a laptop? |
| 02:03.39 | Stanzilla | :p |
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| 02:04.19 | Xinhuan | if classB == 1 then |
| 02:04.19 | Xinhuan | statmods.b.STA = statmods.b.STA + 0.01 * (currentProfileTalents["WARRIOR|Protection|Vitality|5"] or 0) |
| 02:04.19 | Xinhuan | statmods.b.STR = statmods.b.STR + 0.02 * (currentProfileTalents["WARRIOR|Protection|Vitality|5"] or 0) |
| 02:04.19 | Xinhuan | end |
| 02:04.34 | Xinhuan | that's what it looks like for one talent (this one modifies 2 stats, strength and stamina) |
| 02:04.51 | Xinhuan | granted, the key is a bit long |
| 02:05.29 | Xinhuan | i have classID == 1 for warrior |
| 02:06.57 | Xinhuan | hmm maybe it doesn't take 3 lines after all |
| 02:07.03 | Xinhuan | only takes 1 line per talent |
| 02:07.14 | Xinhuan | only need to do the class check once |
| 02:07.28 | Xinhuan | time to sleep |
| 02:08.05 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10701.msg169499;topicseen#new |
| 02:08.06 | Xinhuan | tofl |
| 02:08.08 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 02:08.25 | Xinhuan | since when did ace2 have a button :D |
| 02:08.58 | haste | since rock became ace2! |
| 02:09.02 | Wogroipl_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.06 | Wogroipl_ | you don't have one? |
| 02:09.17 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:09.30 | Xinhuan | fairly sure only Rock has a button, not Ace2 |
| 02:10.00 | Aos | Xinhuan: you could use matrix multiplication, if there is a library for it, rather than a bunch of if thens |
| 02:10.11 | Wogroipl_ | guess your Ace2 is broken, delete your Interface, WTF and cache folders please |
| 02:10.20 | Aos | where the talents were one matrix and the class talents were another to generate the right hand side of the equation |
| 02:10.24 | Xinhuan | how would matrix help |
| 02:11.08 | Fisker- | massive facepalm |
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| 02:11.18 | kagaro_ | anyone a photoshop master around here? |
| 02:11.40 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:11.43 | Fisker- | someone on 4chan wrote that usb sticks weren't flash anymore but tiny harddrives |
| 02:11.49 | haste | :D |
| 02:12.57 | Xinhuan | i think, i'll stick to IF statements that are easier to modify, since if blizzard adds new stats, i would have to increase my matrix size across the board |
| 02:13.07 | kagaro_ | Xinhuan: i need a 16x16 globe icon |
| 02:13.18 | Xinhuan | globe icon? |
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| 02:13.45 | kagaro_ | for a config system minimap item |
| 02:15.38 | Xinhuan | you mean an icon for a minimap button |
| 02:15.50 | kagaro_ | yeah |
| 02:16.02 | kagaro_ | better stated |
| 02:16.11 | Fisker- | http://www.buslink.com/B1/ProductDetails.asp?id=148 |
| 02:16.26 | Fisker- | Carry huge data with you--right in your pocket |
| 02:16.36 | Fisker- | gonna carry huge something with me right next to my pocket |
| 02:16.36 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 02:17.17 | Ellipsis | no pix no proof |
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| 02:21.23 | Xinhuan | i don't think i know of any globe icon |
| 02:21.39 | Xinhuan | however, maybe Ability_Hunter_Pathfinding.blp might be ok |
| 02:22.59 | kagaro_ | it was pain enough making the tracking circles in gimp today |
| 02:23.01 | Xinhuan | or Ability_TownWatch might look like a globe even if it isn't one |
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| 02:42.26 | Orionshock | does world defense report all world pvp interactions? |
| 02:43.18 | kagaro_ | dunno, i never see anything get broadcast on it |
| 02:44.06 | kagaro_ | does anyone know if in 2.4 gas clouds will start to show up ? |
| 02:44.14 | kagaro_ | in the event log that is |
| 02:44.49 | kagaro_ | or as a unit of any type woul dbe nice |
| 02:47.07 | nevcairiel | noone knows much about 2.4 combatlog |
| 02:47.35 | smoke__ | i notice in witchhunt it shows when the debuff fades |
| 02:47.42 | smoke__ | do i have to uncomment that one line that is commented out ? |
| 02:50.45 | Orionshock | anyone know how to speak in World Defense? |
| 02:50.47 | thul | hmmm |
| 02:50.49 | thul | quick question |
| 02:51.34 | thul | shamans doesent need as much hit as wars/rogues etc beacause +9% hit from talent AND WF being 50%, shocks being 10-20% of dps etc |
| 02:51.57 | thul | amirite? |
| 02:52.24 | smoke__ | anyone here familiar with witchhunt? |
| 02:52.27 | thul | fact 2: shamans want 2x1h as close to 3 sec as possible (wf timer) |
| 02:52.38 | thul | (no twasting wf-timers) |
| 02:53.29 | thul | fact 3: haste fucks with that wf-timers and but improves white damage.. but then again, white damage has less hit... sooo, amirite if I conclude: if you gem for haste, you have to gem more +hit too? to make use of the +haste, and therefore +crit/ap would suffice? |
| 02:55.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r64c10b2fbc 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (8 files): User-submitted Horde 60-70 guides |
| 02:55.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rd1b600f5b6 10./TourGuide_Horde/61_63_Zangarmarsh.lua: Cleanup of user-submitted Horde Zangar guide |
| 02:55.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * raa5f0adde5 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): Syncing Ally and Horde Terokkar guides |
| 02:55.35 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r4b9cb386ad 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): Syncing Ally and Horde Nagrand guides |
| 02:55.38 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r25b07f93d5 10./TourGuide_Horde/60_61_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua: Cleanup of user-submitted Horde Hellfire guide |
| 02:55.43 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r4b2ef6e90b 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): Syncing Ally and Horde Blade's Edge guides |
| 02:55.46 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r820015bda9 10./TourGuide_Horde/69_70_Shadowmoon_Valley.lua: Syncing Ally and Horde Shadownmoon guides |
| 02:55.49 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r2cf0e35bbf 10./: |
| 02:55.51 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Merge branch 'Horde_60-70' |
| 02:55.53 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Conflicts: |
| 02:55.55 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide_Alliance/65_66_Nagrand.lua |
| 02:55.57 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r5fc49c0dca 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): Syncing Ally and Horde Netherstorm guides |
| 02:56.30 | potemkin | does setscript |
| 02:56.33 | potemkin | affect all the children of a frame |
| 02:59.05 | Orionshock | ... hehe |
| 02:59.19 | kagaro_ | gout |
| 02:59.26 | Orionshock | daily spam from git |
| 03:02.44 | thul | no shamanTCers? :-P |
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| 03:13.15 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r682000aa36 10./TourGuide_Alliance/18_20_Redridge_Mountains.lua: Locks need the Ratchet FP early, OVERPOWERED! |
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| 03:35.54 | Tambu | Anyone using ag_UnitFrames? I have what is probably the dumest question of all time. How can i make all the unit frames show up at once so I can configure them ie (party, pets targets) .. there has to be some show all config option right? |
| 03:36.22 | EvilJohn | I think there is a config mode |
| 03:36.30 | EvilJohn | but I switched to pitbull awhile back |
| 03:36.36 | EvilJohn | more to config, but easier |
| 03:36.46 | Tambu | been trying pitbul I can't get it to save my settings or proply transfer them |
| 03:37.14 | EvilJohn | try /aguf config |
| 03:37.31 | EvilJohn | guessing on that |
| 03:37.31 | Tambu | I setup my player the way I wanted and then saved the layout went to Target and imported the layout and it didn't change it properly, barely changed at all. Worse when I quit out all my changes and layouts vanished. |
| 03:37.47 | Tambu | nice guess but I tried that :) no luck. |
| 03:37.59 | Tambu | Any idea why pitbull won't save? |
| 03:38.10 | EvilJohn | nope |
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| 03:39.20 | Orionshock | Tambu: it happens, use the same profile for every toon |
| 03:39.21 | Orionshock | what i did |
| 03:39.23 | Tambu | thx for the try.. |
| 03:39.51 | Tambu | orionshock I only have on character on this server.. i've tried to configure my player twice nice both times save the layout quit and pooof all gone reset back to basic. |
| 03:40.51 | Orionshock | reload your UI don;t log out |
| 03:41.00 | EvilJohn | yeah |
| 03:41.04 | EvilJohn | that's probably the issue |
| 03:41.13 | Tambu | I don't follow. i have to reload my UI to save my chagnes? |
| 03:41.16 | Orionshock | shouldn't matter but sometimes does |
| 03:41.31 | Orionshock | reloading your UI does the same as loging in and back out |
| 03:41.33 | EvilJohn | also, if you've been copying the game from a shared network directory sometimes your WTF can get set to read only |
| 03:41.41 | Orionshock | some techinical differences with events but fundamentaly the same |
| 03:41.55 | Tambu | orion I'm not trying to reload my UI i'm trying to quit :) I do other things other than play wow.. as shocking as that may be |
| 03:42.09 | Orionshock | right, not talking bout that noob |
| 03:42.17 | Orionshock | -login set it up, then reload |
| 03:42.20 | Orionshock | then play... |
| 03:42.25 | Orionshock | duah! |
| 03:42.39 | Tambu | and when I quit? I have to reset it up? when does it actually save it? |
| 03:42.50 | Orionshock | no ... |
| 03:43.02 | Orionshock | when you quit it should save again, and when you log back in it should be the same |
| 03:43.04 | Tambu | evil my wtf directory is on my local disk and has been the same for years. |
| 03:43.17 | Orionshock | unless your permissions on you /wtf folder is botched |
| 03:43.21 | EvilJohn | aye |
| 03:43.24 | EvilJohn | that'w hat I was thinking |
| 03:43.27 | Tambu | orionshock everything else saves just fine. |
| 03:43.44 | Orionshock | then your doing something here your not telling us about |
| 03:43.45 | EvilJohn | manually delete your pitbull.lua saved vars? |
| 03:43.54 | Orionshock | and until you do it won't work |
| 03:44.32 | Tambu | hrm. I'll try deleting pitbull.lua perhaps it's not able to save itself. |
| 03:44.48 | EvilJohn | delete it, see if it dletes |
| 03:44.52 | EvilJohn | create a new one in notepad |
| 03:44.56 | EvilJohn | type some text in |
| 03:45.01 | EvilJohn | save,close notepad |
| 03:45.08 | EvilJohn | see if it saved it |
| 03:45.20 | EvilJohn | if it dlete, the file again, if it didn't perms are hosed |
| 03:46.15 | Tambu | yup it writes just fine |
| 03:46.27 | Tambu | lemm try erassing it and see if it will save this time.. |
| 03:50.55 | Tambu | ok loaded wow after eraseing pitbull.lua i removed the healthbar from the player unit frame. saved the layout. I then reloaded the ui and quit out.. I can see my layout in the pitbull.lua file now.. gonna reload wow and see if it saves. |
| 03:57.42 | Tambu | ok it now appears to be saving. I guess the .lua file was corrupted or something. Thanks guys. |
| 03:59.07 | EvilJohn | have fun |
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| 04:53.20 | Lukian | Xinhuan, 421688/779700 ( 54%) 358012 to go ( 1% rested) |
| 04:53.22 | Lukian | explain that one |
| 04:53.25 | Lukian | (69) |
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| 05:00.23 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof * r57943 10Proximo/readme.txt: Proximo: 1.4 commit |
| 05:00.33 | yssaril | anyone know of a decent addon that has a bulk mail feature (i want to send something to all my guildies) |
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| 05:10.02 | Orionshock | Tambu: i think that if a db variable get |
| 05:10.20 | Orionshock | Tambu: i think that if a db variable get's touched in such a way that the DB lib cannot identify it then it goes phooked |
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| 05:39.51 | bigzero | is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27744 good for tanking? |
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| 05:46.30 | Estil | read the comments |
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| 06:04.10 | CIA-8 | Numen: |
| 06:04.10 | CIA-8 | - Added customizable party alert for mana tide totem |
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| 06:15.08 | bigzero | Estil, those were kinda old...was hoping someone may have something else to say. oh well, guess it's stil not fixed |
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| 06:23.59 | Tambu | i think i'm gonna cry.. pitbull just ate my 2 hours of configuring all my unit frames.told it to reload ui and pooof |
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| 06:27.20 | Estil | ah |
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| 06:47.16 | vithos | ~framexml |
| 06:47.17 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 07:00.29 | bigz | lol...i was right. just decided to restart all on its own |
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| 07:06.04 | Lukian | someone was talking about outofbound api commands |
| 07:06.10 | Lukian | anyway I can kill myself using them? |
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| 07:28.18 | marco0009 | anyone know of a mod that shows enemy player nameplates only? I hate having my entire screen covered whenever someone steps on a snake trap. |
| 07:29.49 | CIA-8 | 03arkayenro * r57945 10ArkInventory/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:29.49 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 07:29.49 | CIA-8 | - 2.25a |
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| 08:00.34 | Orionshock | who ever programed scrub - you need to go DIAF |
| 08:00.41 | Orionshock | completely inaccurate |
| 08:00.47 | Orionshock | and twitchie |
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| 08:16.14 | Laric | There are a few addons that can sort your bank. But is there anything that can sort your guild bank? |
| 08:17.29 | Srosh | I don't think so. Apparently the API is different. |
| 08:19.12 | Codayus | Orionshock: What's the issue? |
| 08:19.32 | Orionshock | it's talent scanning functions are poor |
| 08:20.20 | Codayus | No, I mean, what did it flag you disagreed with? |
| 08:24.57 | Orionshock | it inaccurately grab'ed my tallent spec |
| 08:25.00 | Orionshock | and that of many others |
| 08:25.13 | Codayus | Hm, now that's weird. |
| 08:25.55 | Codayus | Haven't heard it ever mis-scanning. Odd. |
| 08:26.01 | Codayus | The scan code is pretty simple too... |
| 08:27.03 | vithos | scrub flags my raid spec as pvp too, are you one of the people responsible? |
| 08:27.31 | Codayus | Responsible? Not directly, no. |
| 08:27.46 | Codayus | I would be interested to know what talent(s) it flagged. |
| 08:27.57 | vithos | well anyway, i take 3/5 frenzy in beast mastery |
| 08:28.13 | vithos | because animal handler is more dps than full frenzy |
| 08:28.26 | vithos | which is on the same tier |
| 08:28.45 | vithos | i believe it labels "no frenzy" as a red flag |
| 08:29.10 | Codayus | Ah? Interesting. |
| 08:29.32 | vithos | technically, doing that reduces my group buffing |
| 08:29.43 | vithos | as less frenzy uptime = less ferocious inspiration uptime |
| 08:29.54 | vithos | but it's marginal, i can give you the exact difference in a second |
| 08:30.19 | Codayus | It actually will yellow flag you if you have FI, but NO points in Animal Handler... |
| 08:30.25 | vithos | actually i might be lying. it might be even better for the group, let me check |
| 08:30.53 | Codayus | And yeah, red flag for 3 or fewer points in frenzy |
| 08:31.08 | vithos | with 2/2 AH, 3/5 frenzy, FI uptime is 98.91% which is 2.97% damage bonus effective benefit |
| 08:31.40 | vithos | with all 5 in frenzy instead, 98.99% uptime, 2.97% effective (rounded) |
| 08:31.57 | Kalman| | Were you using it in a BG? |
| 08:32.02 | vithos | no, in hyjal |
| 08:32.32 | vithos | 1 point 4 point split is 98.96% / 2.97% |
| 08:32.39 | vithos | so yeah, the difference is extremely marginal |
| 08:32.50 | vithos | i think it should probably be 2 or less frenzy = red flag |
| 08:33.06 | Codayus | Instead of 3 or less? Hm. |
| 08:33.10 | vithos | or maybe yellow flag |
| 08:33.20 | Codayus | Well, NO frenzy would be a red flag, not so? |
| 08:33.20 | vithos | i don't know what your guiding policies are |
| 08:33.47 | Codayus | The idea, basically, is red flag for people doing retarded things, missing key talents, or taking pvp stuff. |
| 08:34.36 | vithos | well, i'd say red flag for 1 or 0 in frenzy, yellow for 2 |
| 08:34.54 | vithos | the first points have the most effectiveness |
| 08:34.55 | Codayus | I dunno, how would you end spec to only get 3 in frenzy? |
| 08:35.02 | Codayus | Er, to only get 2. |
| 08:35.04 | vithos | hmm.. good question |
| 08:35.28 | vithos | well you'd have to take other stupid talents, which should probably be where the red flag is |
| 08:35.33 | vithos | i guess |
| 08:35.35 | Codayus | Yeah, I suppose. |
| 08:35.46 | vithos | let me look at a real talent tree for a bit and maybe i can answer that better |
| 08:37.27 | vithos | actually, with my spec i could move the 3rd point out of frenzy and put it anywhere else in the entire tree |
| 08:38.32 | Kivin | ckknight: ping |
| 08:38.47 | vithos | for pve raiding though, not putting 3 in it would be fishy |
| 08:38.50 | ckknight | pong |
| 08:39.21 | Kivin | ckknight: in the RockConfig Addon Prefs, there's a number of prefs enclosed in a sectioned off area |
| 08:39.34 | ckknight | k? |
| 08:39.41 | Kivin | what argument do you pass to create that |
| 08:39.43 | Codayus | Hmm, got a link to your spec? I'm curious. |
| 08:39.52 | Kivin | I don't see it in the autodocs |
| 08:39.57 | ckknight | check the spec |
| 08:40.05 | ckknight | groupType = 'inline' |
| 08:40.06 | ckknight | I believe |
| 08:40.11 | vithos | Codayus: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfuVoVVbRV |
| 08:41.09 | vithos | it might be worthy of a yellow flag for taking the outdoor pet speed talent over a 4th frenzy point, i dunno |
| 08:41.10 | Kivin | ckknight: Thanks, I'll give that a shot |
| 08:41.26 | vithos | but that's what i've raided all the way from kara to illidan with |
| 08:42.03 | Codayus | Yeah...hm, missing the 4th point isa loss of pet DPS, and...a minor loss of FI uptime. |
| 08:42.12 | Codayus | Neither would be particularly important. |
| 08:42.35 | vithos | i'll copy/paste the effective hunter+pet dps numbers for the different frenzy numbers |
| 08:43.31 | vithos | 0 - 1716.15, 1 - 1733.98, 2 - 1747.27, 3 - 1756.57, 4 - 1762.74, 5 - 1766.67 |
| 08:43.49 | vithos | 4 and 5 are impossible specs, but i didn't want to change anything else except the frenzy talent |
| 08:44.58 | Codayus | Which spreadsheet is that? |
| 08:45.26 | vithos | i don't respec for pvp, and of course the outdoor speed for pet is also for farming, but yeah, i just don't really feel like anybody in the raids would give me shit for not putting that 4th point in |
| 08:45.30 | vithos | that's cheeky's sheet |
| 08:45.35 | Codayus | kk |
| 08:46.21 | vithos | and in hyjal and other outdoor raids, it gets the pet in to start dpsing and getting FI up a little sooner |
| 08:47.04 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 08:47.33 | vithos | but i realize nitpicking these builds is tricky business. scrub may be not be perfectly accurate now, but it's still cool for knowing whose builds to inspect manually if nothing else |
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| 08:48.19 | Paen1 | Ping Shadowed |
| 08:48.22 | Codayus | Well, whenever people raise an issue, it can be fixed, and then it's better. :-) |
| 08:48.56 | Shadowed | Paen1: mmm? |
| 08:49.02 | Codayus | And, hmm, you said 2/2 Animal Handler and 3/5 Frenzy gives 98.91% FI uptime? |
| 08:49.14 | Paen1 | Shadowed: You developing Afflicted? |
| 08:49.46 | Shadowed | Unless someone else has taken the name Shadowd on WoWI, I'd imagine so |
| 08:50.04 | vithos | 98.91% yeah |
| 08:50.11 | vithos | are you seeing different? |
| 08:50.13 | Paen1 | :) I'm having some issues getting Psychic Scream to work, is there anything other than add an entry to spells.lua that I need to do? |
| 08:50.28 | Paen1 | I've tried adding the localization too |
| 08:50.43 | Shadowed | As I said, it's an unsupported change |
| 08:50.50 | Codayus | No, I'm just not a hunter. Writing up a post to suggest changing the Frenzy check. :-) |
| 08:50.52 | Paen1 | ah ic |
| 08:51.01 | Shadowed | And, you're not going to get PS to work accurately |
| 08:51.16 | vithos | Codayus: oh, my shoulders would affect that number |
| 08:51.17 | Shadowed | Unless you want to see timers for every single person afflicted by it |
| 08:51.36 | Paen1 | more interested in a cooldown timer for it, since it's often used as an interrupt |
| 08:51.58 | vithos | Codayus: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30892 2% more pet crit, and frenzy procs from crits |
| 08:52.15 | buu | So, baggins problem. I have it set to compress my soulshards, which works, but I got more than my soulshard bag size. Now I have soulshards in regular bag slots and empty soulshard bag slots. |
| 08:52.19 | buu | How on earth do I fix that. |
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| 08:52.39 | Orionshock | Codayus: basicly the addon scans the specs too fast, and has no means of waiting for it to full and accurately scan a player |
| 08:52.52 | vithos | Codayus: i'll swap to t6 shoulders and give you all new numbers if you'd like |
| 08:53.02 | Codayus | vithos: Ooh, that'd be cool. |
| 08:53.08 | Codayus | Orionshock: That...still seems odd. |
| 08:54.21 | vithos | Codayus: woops. those numbers were all with t6 shoulders actually, on my wishlist gear set. with my real gearset including the pet shoulders, FI uptime is 99.52% |
| 08:54.42 | vithos | so the first numbers are the more typical result |
| 08:55.35 | Codayus | k |
| 08:58.21 | Kalman| | Orionshock: Er, unless Slake changed the code, it explicitly waits for a players data to be returned before it goes to the next player. |
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| 08:59.10 | Orionshock | still is fn it up... |
| 09:00.12 | Codayus | Orionshock: I haven't seen it do that. Others don't seem to have the issue. Based on the code, I dunno why it'd do that. Not doubting you, just...not sure how/why it's doing that. :-/ |
| 09:01.22 | Kalman| | Only time I ever saw that is when number of raid members changed during scan. |
| 09:11.47 | Paen1 | Ping Kaelten |
| 09:12.48 | Paen1 | Anyone other than Kaelten able to reset my svn password? |
| 09:13.04 | Paen1 | new computer and I don't have the old e-mail with the password in it |
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| 09:37.53 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57946 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-enUS.lua): |
| 09:37.53 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 09:37.53 | CIA-8 | 3.2.2 |
| 09:37.53 | CIA-8 | Feature: Holding down alt while you see the enter/hide popup for a battlefield, allow you to leave instead of hide when clickin on the hide button (which change to leave queue when alt is hold |
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| 09:38.40 | Shadowed| | ALL HAIL ALAR |
| 09:38.46 | haste | odd lol |
| 09:38.47 | Shadowed | master of the mods |
| 09:38.48 | Dotted | ye |
| 09:42.45 | Vexir | Any druid tanks on? |
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| 09:45.04 | Elkano | why? |
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| 09:51.52 | Lukian | ~asktoask |
| 09:51.53 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 09:51.55 | Lukian | @ Vexir |
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| 09:59.08 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r57947 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: |
| 09:59.08 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 09:59.08 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW translation. |
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| 10:06.41 | Lukian | Shadowed, the scary thing is, that actually sounds marginally useful |
| 10:06.54 | Lukian | especially if you queue for multiple bg's at once |
| 10:07.54 | Kivin | Anyone know if there's a way to make RockLocale default to the key string if the translation doesn't exist? |
| 10:08.17 | Kivin | ie: L["Some Random Garbage"] becomes "Some Random Garbage" if it doesn't exist in the current or default locale |
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| 10:12.20 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:12.20 | CIA-8 | - Babble integration into bossname files completed. (only de and en are working correctly atm!) |
| 10:12.32 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57949 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 10:12.32 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 10:12.32 | CIA-8 | - - Babble integration into bossname files completed. (only de and en are working correctly atm!) |
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| 10:25.17 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 10:25.18 | CIA-8 | - cosmetic changes |
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| 10:37.06 | Orionshock | Kivin: doing the locale methods up yourself isn't that hard tbh |
| 10:37.23 | Kivin | Orionshock: what do you mean? |
| 10:37.39 | Orionshock | you don't really need a lib to do it for you |
| 10:37.57 | Orionshock | it's just a table look up, you can assing it a meta table func that will do that |
| 10:38.06 | Kivin | okay, and....? |
| 10:38.20 | Kivin | I've got LibRockLocale implemented, so unless there's an extremely compelling reason not to...? |
| 10:38.22 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:39.29 | Orionshock | Kivin: it's not doing what you need it to, so i'd say thats a compelling reason not to |
| 10:39.41 | Kivin | *shrug* took a few mins to type up the locales |
| 10:40.50 | Kivin | next crisis: :SetDatabaseDefaults("profile", {profile defaults}) isn't working... i've tried calling :ResetDatabase, pushing the button in RockCOnfig, and creating a new profile, and they all use the old database defaults |
| 10:41.12 | Kivin | rather than the ones i changed to a few hrs ago |
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| 10:44.24 | Orionshock | personally i try to make addons i don't have to localize at all |
| 10:44.28 | Orionshock | much easier |
| 10:45.22 | cladhaire | I could help you with ace3db, but can't with rock |
| 10:45.35 | Kivin | I'd love to just ignore localization completely, but I at least want the framework for it in SpamGuard, then if other's want to add locale tables, that's their business |
| 10:46.00 | cladhaire | a framework for locale is so absurdly overkill, it makes me want to cry |
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| 10:46.18 | Health | Any change hot MagicTrack version? |
| 10:46.27 | Health | .. -change! |
| 10:47.09 | Provus | Afflicted is the new MagicTrack, yo. |
| 10:47.19 | cladhaire | word |
| 10:47.21 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8063-Afflicted.html |
| 10:47.38 | Xinhuan | Magictrack/afflicted reference: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773500867&sid=1 |
| 10:48.21 | Provus | Now if only Afflicted would let me add font onlines. |
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| 10:49.47 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/80144 <-- see anything wrong with the syntax in that? |
| 10:49.57 | Kivin | because it's now causing internal errors in LibRock |
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| 10:52.20 | cladhaire | no its syntactically correct |
| 10:52.36 | Kivin | okay, then i'm not crazy |
| 10:53.15 | cladhaire | DatabaseDefaults("profile", {profile defaults} |
| 10:53.18 | cladhaire | that however isn't. |
| 10:53.20 | cladhaire | if you're using just that |
| 10:53.33 | cladhaire | not sure what the table is, but that's not valid |
| 10:53.36 | Kivin | "profile defaults" wasn't literal |
| 10:53.44 | cladhaire | oh |
| 10:53.46 | cladhaire | okay then :P |
| 10:53.48 | Kivin | Addon:SetDatabaseDefaults("profile", PROFILE_DEFAULTS) |
| 10:55.12 | Kivin | oookay I really need to stop splitting my framework calls into two parts of the code page. I had :SetDatabaseDefaults prior to :SetDatabase |
| 10:56.07 | Orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21885 |
| 10:56.16 | Orionshock | tek your name is everywhere eh? |
| 10:56.42 | Sole | lol so doing the TurboGears tutorial and it gives me a bug from the example code -_- |
| 10:56.55 | Health | Good shit |
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| 11:04.01 | Kivin | RockDB makes me emo (//.x) |
| 11:06.26 | Xinhuan | cos it doesn't work for profile copying ;p |
| 11:07.44 | Kivin | I wish I could just shut off profiles completely |
| 11:08.21 | Kivin | sooner ace3 goes beta, the better |
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| 11:11.15 | smoke_ | anyone alive that knows a little about witchhunt? |
| 11:13.10 | cladhaire | ace3 is in beta right now, Kivin |
| 11:13.17 | Kivin | Since how long ago? |
| 11:13.26 | cladhaire | njot sure, lemme check fish |
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| 11:13.57 | cladhaire | since Halloween it seems |
| 11:14.28 | cladhaire | err, rather |
| 11:14.34 | cladhaire | November 12th |
| 11:14.40 | cladhaire | so says fisheye |
| 11:14.43 | Kivin | Interesting. Since Kaelten said it wouldn't be ready for an initial Beta until three tickets were resolved, less than a week ago. |
| 11:16.14 | Elkano | well, lets say alpha was released 11/12 and we are aproaching beta release |
| 11:16.32 | Kivin | Fair enough. None the less, I think I'll wait a while longer. |
| 11:17.02 | Kivin | Ck has shown me he isn't interested in fixing things in Rock or his addons, so I do intend to cut loose |
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| 11:19.12 | cladhaire | Elkano: my mistake, was mixing up branch names with releases :P |
| 11:19.20 | Kivin | xP |
| 11:19.23 | cladhaire | but its at a point where you can develop stable addons against it |
| 11:19.24 | cladhaire | :P |
| 11:19.51 | Kivin | Maybe, maybe not :p |
| 11:20.37 | Kivin | Does it have a graphical config frame like RockConfig, or do you have to hand-write one with AceGUI? |
| 11:20.53 | Wiebbe | Yo |
| 11:21.01 | Wiebbe | anyone seen rabbit? :P |
| 11:21.53 | cladhaire | Kivin: you'd have to ask someone else about AceGUI and the current state of it and AceConfig.. I'm just the database guy :P |
| 11:22.02 | Kivin | alright ;p |
| 11:22.17 | Wiebbe | haste: vhaarr = rabbit? |
| 11:23.00 | Wiebbe | my mind is exploding with my very really really ugle coding practices :( |
| 11:23.02 | cladhaire | don't assign rabbit to vhaarr |
| 11:23.02 | cladhaire | but yes |
| 11:23.05 | Wiebbe | i need to know what i did wrong :P |
| 11:23.36 | Kivin | vhaarr: ping |
| 11:23.53 | Wiebbe | i know im not into LUA and wow coding |
| 11:23.54 | krka | Wiebbe: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 11:24.03 | Wiebbe | hehe ;p |
| 11:24.20 | Wiebbe | so i prob did some stuff wrong with tables and memory usage :> |
| 11:24.27 | Wiebbe | but the code it self doesnt look that wrong to me |
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| 11:25.35 | Kivin | lua> local t = {}; print(t[1] == true) |
| 11:25.35 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
| 11:25.37 | ckknight | krka: it's also a Hawaiian word that means toilet |
| 11:28.34 | Health | krka: LUA |
| 11:28.53 | Kivin | he has a cooldown |
| 11:29.44 | Health | you are a cooldown |
| 11:30.48 | Kivin | lua> tonumber(nilValue) |
| 11:30.48 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 11:30.53 | Kivin | lua> tonumber(nilValue or 0) |
| 11:30.53 | lua_bot | Kivin: 0, |
| 11:31.13 | Health | Perhaps I should sleep a bit in my shower |
| 11:31.22 | Kivin | (o.O) |
| 11:31.40 | Kivin | lua> tonumber(nilValue or "") |
| 11:31.40 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
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| 11:36.33 | Health | krka: did you ever sleep in your shower? |
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| 11:56.07 | Pasepower | Greetings, I got this little question, what was it I gotta name my custom fonts? :> Anyone knows? |
| 11:56.53 | Health | k |
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| 12:01.18 | whizter | can someone tell me if this quest announcer text can be moved? which addon does it belong to? -> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6uhta3n&s=1 (the bombing quest 4/15 text) |
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| 12:06.00 | AKX | On the left, whizter? |
| 12:06.12 | AKX | Or on the bars? |
| 12:06.23 | whizter | nope. the text in the lower middle over my autobar |
| 12:06.27 | AKX | On the bars is probably Parrot. |
| 12:07.04 | whizter | i don't have parrot |
| 12:07.15 | AKX | Uhm... FuBar_QuestsFu? |
| 12:08.03 | whizter | i think so, but i don't see an option to move that text |
| 12:08.23 | Recluse | any (customizable) selective autoloot addons out there? (ie: on loot: autoloot cash, cloth, skip rest) |
| 12:08.33 | AKX | Recluse, impossible, afaicr |
| 12:08.47 | AKX | You can either loot everything or nothing with the WoW API, if I'm right |
| 12:08.51 | vithos | the worst part about people asking questions and leaving immediately afterwards is i never notice they're gone until i've gone and dug up the answer for them |
| 12:08.59 | Recluse | hmm |
| 12:09.09 | AKX | Though it's been a while since I've developed anything, I could be wrong. |
| 12:09.52 | Kivin | vithos: Along the same lines, we had someone asking questions yesterday then changing his /nick immediately after |
| 12:10.06 | Kivin | vithos: I kept thinking he was gone and not bothering to ask :p |
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| 12:10.13 | Kivin | or reply, rather |
| 12:10.49 | Kivin | holy crap, i just got 7 CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL events for one /2 |
| 12:10.53 | sylvanaar | AKX when is the next Dreamchat update =P |
| 12:11.09 | AKX | sylvanaar, have you been to Hell lately? Has it frozen over? >_> |
| 12:11.26 | AKX | I'm not playing WoW actively as it is, so DreamChat is free to be taken over, if you're so inclined. :P |
| 12:12.08 | Recluse | AKX: well, there are some functions in the API that seem like they would work ie: LootSlotIsCoin(slot) LootSlotIsItem(slot) GetLootSlotLink(slot) LootSlot(slot) |
| 12:12.15 | sylvanaar | AKX i fixed it up a bit a while back, but I dont play so much anymore either |
| 12:13.24 | AKX | Hmm, fair enough, Recluse. I was wrong the, I think :P |
| 12:13.47 | Recluse | just didn't know if anyone knew of one that did it before i went on the long google hunt XD |
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| 12:17.02 | Kivin | lua> tostring(arg50 or "nil") |
| 12:17.04 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
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| 12:21.12 | Polarina | lua> tostring(arg50) |
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| 12:21.36 | Kivin | Anyone care to take a guess whe I get exactly 7 CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL events each time someone sends a message in trade? |
| 12:22.28 | Recluse | it sends to each one of the 7 chat frames? only a guess |
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| 12:23.06 | Kivin | an interesting thought |
| 12:23.12 | Kivin | lua> tostring({}) |
| 12:23.13 | lua_bot | Kivin: table: 0x80a3b40, |
| 12:24.33 | Recluse | Kivin: i had a similar problem trying to do something 'on incoming whisper' and it always happened twice. turned out i had previously set a chat tab to handle whispers but removed it. the channel selections still 'existed' even though the frame didn't |
| 12:25.05 | Kivin | Recluse: Interesting. I'm adding 'this' to the debug code along with the args to see if it's unique for each message |
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| 12:26.50 | Kivin | Recluse: Good guess. 'this' is a different table in all seven messages. |
| 12:27.37 | Recluse | Kivin: never really understood why it does it, but it sounded like it resembled my previous problem |
| 12:28.13 | Recluse | notifies every frame and the frame decides to use or ignore it or something silly |
| 12:28.20 | Kivin | Now I'm just trying to consider the implications of dropping all messages that don't come on DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 12:28.45 | Xinhuan | you only hook ChatFrame_OnEvent if you want to hide a message from being shown |
| 12:28.56 | Xinhuan | you register for the actual event you are interested in |
| 12:28.59 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I'm hooking higher than ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 12:29.01 | Xinhuan | CHAT_MSG_whatever |
| 12:29.18 | Kivin | Oh i'm sorry, i'm hooking _OnEvent |
| 12:29.46 | Kivin | Listening for CHAT_MSG_CHANNELs, but i'm getting 7 of them for every message |
| 12:30.35 | Kivin | So now I either need a costly message filter in my hook that attempts to zap duplicate messages, or base all filters on what messages hit DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
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| 12:32.08 | TNSe | heh |
| 12:32.42 | Xinhuan | 2nd method won't work |
| 12:34.55 | Kivin | Xinhuan: What do you recommend |
| 12:35.08 | Xinhuan | listen for the actual event message |
| 12:35.16 | Kivin | Xinhuan: That doesn't help me stop the message |
| 12:35.28 | Xinhuan | what do you want to do |
| 12:35.40 | Xinhuan | just stop message from display? do some work on it as well? |
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| 12:35.59 | Xinhuan | stop message from display --> hook ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 12:36.10 | Xinhuan | do some work --> listen to the actual event |
| 12:36.16 | Xinhuan | if you need to do both, then do both of these |
| 12:36.18 | Kivin | Currently, all messages get bucketed for up to 1 second while the addon assesses whether the user is gold spamming, then passes them down to the default handler if they're safe |
| 12:36.32 | Xinhuan | that's not foolproof |
| 12:36.39 | Kivin | but it works |
| 12:36.44 | Xinhuan | you only want to process the message once |
| 12:36.52 | Xinhuan | and hook every chatframe to surpress it |
| 12:37.20 | Kivin | hook AddMessage? |
| 12:37.34 | Xinhuan | hooking addmessage is possible but far trickier |
| 12:37.46 | Kivin | What do you think I should hook? |
| 12:37.49 | nevcairiel | its the only way to really suppress a message |
| 12:38.02 | nevcairiel | some stupid addons sneak around the event handler .P |
| 12:38.12 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/80145 <- that's my hook |
| 12:38.28 | Kivin | err, minus the enabled check |
| 12:39.18 | Xinhuan | because there's 2 ways to hook :AddMessage |
| 12:39.25 | Xinhuan | one is to only hook a speciic frame's addmessage |
| 12:39.32 | Xinhuan | and one is to hook every frame's addmessage |
| 12:40.11 | Kivin | TBH, I *really* don't like the idea of hooking AddMessage at all. Too much drivel comes across it, for one, and it breaks the interoperability with other chat addons, which is the whole reason I hooked OnEvent in the first place. |
| 12:41.12 | Kivin | I wonder what 'arg11' is in CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL; it's a 3-digit number which is unique to the message, not the frame, and increases each time a new message comes through |
| 12:41.28 | nevcairiel | no one really knows |
| 12:41.52 | Kivin | I could use that to intercept the first arg11 and trash the next same arg11s |
| 12:42.30 | Kivin | by trash, i mean pass down to the event handler, and not bucket |
| 12:42.47 | Xinhuan | probably don't need a bucket at all, with that approach |
| 12:43.02 | Kivin | the bucket is for multiline macros |
| 12:43.18 | Kivin | i can't failessly incriminate a goldspammer always by the first line of their macro |
| 12:43.37 | Xinhuan | you don't need to incriminate by the first line |
| 12:43.55 | Kivin | ? |
| 12:43.59 | Xinhuan | just incriminate it by the 2nd line then, and filter out all future messages from that spammer |
| 12:44.08 | Xinhuan | so to the user, only the first line shows up, and only once |
| 12:44.09 | Kivin | the bucket is to quarantine messages until the user is deemed 'safe' |
| 12:44.21 | Xinhuan | you're thinking too deeply into this lol |
| 12:44.29 | Xinhuan | and delayed messages are not necessarily good, |
| 12:44.30 | Shirik | And this is the problem I have with most "spam-prevention" addons |
| 12:44.32 | Xinhuan | esp in a raid setting |
| 12:44.39 | Shirik | I want to see my messages immediately |
| 12:44.45 | Kivin | I don't think so? It took hardly any time to implement and has been 100% effective since I put it in play |
| 12:44.47 | Shirik | but this is a personal opinion |
| 12:44.55 | Shirik | define "effective" |
| 12:44.58 | Shirik | that's a subjective term |
| 12:45.00 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't use an addon that delays my messages by any amount of time |
| 12:45.03 | Kivin | i've not seen a single gold spam message |
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| 12:45.22 | Shirik | That's not my definition of effective for an addon like this, that's my point. |
| 12:45.28 | Kivin | Xinhuan: There's a configurable setting to throttle it |
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| 12:46.31 | Shirik | can the .... "bucketing?" be turned off? |
| 12:46.50 | Kivin | it wouldn't be noticable if you throttled it to a low enough delay |
| 12:46.55 | Kivin | set it to 1 millisecond |
| 12:47.15 | Shirik | heh, why do you even let it get set that low |
| 12:47.21 | Kivin | I don't |
| 12:47.37 | Kivin | i haven't written the gui for it, yet. but it will probably have a "faster" "normal" "slower" setting |
| 12:47.44 | cladhaire | i've never had a problem with gold spam.. i report someone.. and i no longer see their messages |
| 12:47.44 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:47.58 | Kivin | On my server, I see messages for in excess of 10 minutes, typically. And I used to report *everything* |
| 12:48.02 | Shirik | cladhaire now that's a lie |
| 12:48.06 | Shirik | A while ago you had spam for sure |
| 12:48.24 | Shirik | But that was a long time ago now :) |
| 12:48.51 | Shirik | But ever since Blizzard implemented their new spam prevention techniques I do have to admit I'm rather impressed |
| 12:49.06 | Kivin | People must be more prompt on your servers |
| 12:49.12 | Matrix110 | about that they dont work atall? |
| 12:49.15 | nevcairiel | only spam i see is say spam in ironforge |
| 12:49.17 | nevcairiel | thats all |
| 12:49.32 | Matrix110 | say/trade |
| 12:49.37 | Cheads | I see spam all the time in IF and SW.. |
| 12:49.39 | Kivin | The thing that inspired me to write SpamGuard was 3 spammers in org at the same time: one spamming h4x and 2 goldspammers |
| 12:49.41 | nevcairiel | i dont join trade, its full of morons anyway |
| 12:49.43 | Cheads | on all channels |
| 12:49.48 | Shirik | I'm constantly in trade |
| 12:49.49 | Cheads | general and yell |
| 12:49.52 | Shirik | I don't remember the last time I saw spam there |
| 12:49.55 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57951 10AtlasLoot/ (Bossnames/bossnames.en.lua Constants/constants.de.lua): |
| 12:49.55 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:49.55 | CIA-8 | - Adjustments |
| 12:49.59 | Matrix110 | Not in general so i dont know |
| 12:50.02 | Kivin | the hax vendor was spamming alternating /say and /emote and the goldspammers had max-length /say macros. it was impossible to see anything |
| 12:50.05 | Matrix110 | but my guess is they spam there aswell |
| 12:50.12 | Kivin | Cheads: you see goldspam in general? |
| 12:50.18 | Cheads | yes a lot |
| 12:50.24 | Kivin | Cheads: Interesting |
| 12:50.25 | Cheads | might be different for each server.. but my server.. spam is still hell |
| 12:50.28 | Shirik | The only thing that annoys me is |
| 12:50.32 | cladhaire | Kivin: I'M more prompt |
| 12:50.36 | cladhaire | I report the spammers |
| 12:50.40 | cladhaire | and then I can't see them anymore :P |
| 12:50.48 | Shirik | "Hey noob, you suck. Go to blahblah.com to modify your character to get instant level 70 and free epics" |
| 12:50.50 | Matrix110 | We got it every ~2-3mins in Tradechat and constantly at every populated place in say besides Shattrath because they cant go there |
| 12:50.53 | Cheads | mostly in /say and in /yell (im not in trade) |
| 12:50.54 | Kivin | Cheads: Get KivinSpamGuard off the WAU and it'll at least trap the /say and /emote drivel. Channel support coming in < 48 hours. |
| 12:51.03 | Matrix110 | oh and /emote and /yell ofc |
| 12:51.14 | Cheads | and /emote ofcourse. .forgot that =) |
| 12:51.24 | Recluse | only place i see it these days is /s and only if you are in IF or Org near the bank/ah |
| 12:51.24 | nevcairiel | i think they cant /yell |
| 12:51.28 | nevcairiel | i only see /say and /em |
| 12:51.29 | Matrix110 | they can |
| 12:51.36 | Matrix110 | the ones in /trade do yell aswell |
| 12:51.37 | [Liquidor] | Not many gold spammers on my realm and those who are there are all located in the entrance of SW AH. |
| 12:51.44 | Shirik | how can you do yell in trade? |
| 12:51.52 | [Liquidor] | yell = caps? |
| 12:52.04 | Kivin | yell = /yell |
| 12:52.12 | Matrix110 | the ones using /trade are paid/haxxed accs or smth like that so they can yell aswell |
| 12:52.25 | Shirik | I hate the term "hacked" account |
| 12:52.35 | Cheads | im using Unsolicited.. but still much spam in say and emote |
| 12:52.48 | Shirik | to this day I don't think I've come across one valid report of a truly "hacked" account |
| 12:52.56 | Matrix110 | true |
| 12:53.00 | Kivin | I haven't seen a spam message in, well, a day, since i implemented spamguard :p |
| 12:53.03 | Matrix110 | the ppl mostly fail:P |
| 12:53.11 | Shirik | that I'll agree to |
| 12:53.24 | Kivin | And it's incredibly satisfying seeing: [sdflksdDLdklsd] has been blocked for spam violations. |
| 12:53.30 | Matrix110 | Keyloggers ftw or phishing pages etc. :P |
| 12:53.46 | Matrix110 | best are ppl that get keylogged more than once |
| 12:54.15 | Shirik | you know what would be an interesting heuristic? |
| 12:54.19 | Cheads | if KivinSpamGuard delays the chat.. it's not something I'd like.. |
| 12:54.31 | Kivin | suit yourself |
| 12:54.38 | Shirik | Determining if the character's name is made up of keys entirely on the home row |
| 12:55.08 | Kivin | I seriously considered adding spam violations based on naming rules, but ruled it out. |
| 12:55.25 | Recluse | i must admit, i hate when i see something i want to buy in trade and /w <soandso> and i get the message "Please type the following to prove you're not a gold spammer: h7Tf4q" |
| 12:55.28 | Shirik | If you violate my naming rules I don't want to talk to you anyway :P |
| 12:55.34 | sylvanaar | truly hacked? you know dumpster diving for passwords was still considered hacking in the 80's |
| 12:56.46 | Shirik | yeah but come on :P |
| 12:56.47 | Shirik | that was the 80s |
| 12:56.48 | sylvanaar | same for login trojans and whatever |
| 12:56.50 | Matrix110 | Recluse there is no whisper spam anymore so i dunno why they still use it |
| 12:56.53 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 12:57.11 | Shirik | sylvanaar: No I really chalk that up to user stupidity |
| 12:57.14 | Shirik | or carelessness |
| 12:57.24 | Shirik | Especially to all the damn people on Vista that turn off UAC |
| 12:57.38 | Recluse | Matrix110: seems like a ton of people still use those addons |
| 12:57.48 | sylvanaar | ok - i want to know why generating aceoptions tables with just a few K of data uses 200k of memory |
| 12:57.49 | Matrix110 | i know |
| 12:58.11 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Maybe that's the issue TC was having yesterday |
| 12:58.18 | Shirik | He was having huge memory usage |
| 12:58.40 | Shirik | If you find a good solution let him know :D |
| 12:59.12 | sylvanaar | im considering pulling all my code that has to do with options into another addon |
| 12:59.57 | Polarina | Recluse: Just tell them that they suck. :) |
| 13:00.06 | Recluse | lol |
| 13:00.23 | sylvanaar | given that building the tables uses lots of memory - even if there is no FuBar or Waterfall using them |
| 13:00.25 | Shirik | That's actually a pretty stupid addon really |
| 13:00.26 | Kivin | The current cheapie solution for Beta: only offer protection on DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 13:00.32 | Recluse | i stopped 'proving' myself to addons a long time ago - i just don't let them sell to me |
| 13:00.36 | Shirik | what's stopping gold spammers from reading that line, parsing it, and then responding |
| 13:01.15 | Polarina | Shirik: Nothing.æ |
| 13:01.22 | Polarina | s/æ// |
| 13:01.40 | Shirik | hehe, ae thingy that I can't copy/paste |
| 13:01.41 | Polarina | purl: Thanks. |
| 13:01.41 | purl | Polarina: my pleasure |
| 13:01.42 | sylvanaar | i did forget to remove the console command registration - so it could be that |
| 13:02.04 | Recluse | Shirik: some of them have trivia - 'Reply to the following: What color is the sky?' |
| 13:02.15 | Shirik | That was my strategy in an old game of mine |
| 13:02.22 | Shirik | favorite question was "Who is your favorite baseball team?" |
| 13:02.40 | Shirik | Though I did it by hand :) |
| 13:03.02 | Shirik | problem with this game was that every 5 seconds people were asking you to buff them |
| 13:03.09 | Shirik | so screw the farmers they don't get buffs from me |
| 13:04.02 | sylvanaar | atlasloot has an error - some translation messed it up |
| 13:05.17 | sylvanaar | oh nm, i guess someone fixed it |
| 13:05.25 | Kivin | The less-cheapie solution, I think: identify each bucketed message by it's arg11, and store an array of 'this' pointers for common arg11s |
| 13:05.46 | sylvanaar | no, still there. |
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| 13:07.21 | Kivin | Shirik: ? |
| 13:07.31 | Shirik | "this" is an evil variable that should only be used in the most dire of cases |
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| 13:08.01 | Shirik | You have an OnEvent hook right? |
| 13:08.02 | Kivin | Shirik: If I don't bucket 'this' and restore it, passing the message down to the blizzard handler will cause errors |
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| 13:09.02 | Shirik | you're using an OnEvent hook? |
| 13:09.04 | Shirik | or something else |
| 13:09.06 | Kivin | OnEvent |
| 13:09.22 | Shirik | Then the first parameter passed to your handler should be the frame in question |
| 13:09.30 | Shirik | that's what you should be using |
| 13:09.44 | Kivin | Shirik: it's not |
| 13:09.53 | Kivin | Shirik: oh wait, maybe it is... |
| 13:09.56 | Shirik | o_O |
| 13:10.19 | Shirik | it should always go "self, event, arg1, arg2, ..." |
| 13:10.39 | Kivin | first, the arg1-argn are global, and so is this |
| 13:10.56 | Shirik | not necessarily |
| 13:10.59 | Kivin | they are in this case |
| 13:11.07 | Shirik | well yeah, and that's why I'm giving you crap :P |
| 13:11.08 | Kivin | see the default handler, it only has one argument |
| 13:11.17 | Kivin | (event) |
| 13:11.21 | Shirik | That doesn't mean it's being passed them and just ignoring them |
| 13:11.26 | Shirik | Lua is nice like that, it lets you do this |
| 13:11.39 | Kivin | the function isn't a member of a table with ':' |
| 13:11.44 | Kivin | and it's still just (event) |
| 13:11.49 | cladhaire | you should not be using the globals |
| 13:12.00 | cladhaire | as shirik is saying :P |
| 13:12.03 | Kivin | [sigh] |
| 13:12.13 | Shirik | yeah but he's not listening to me :P So I think I'm going to go heat up this pizza |
| 13:12.24 | cladhaire | you get passed the frame, the event, and a vararg list of the arguments to the event |
| 13:12.27 | cladhaire | the signature of every single OnEvent function is (self, event, ...) |
| 13:12.54 | Kivin | cladhaire: Mind linking me the most up to date FrameXML? I stupidly lost the URL to the site that has them |
| 13:13.05 | Shirik | ~framexml |
| 13:13.05 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 13:13.10 | Kivin | ty |
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| 13:13.57 | Shirik | As you can see, I do the exact same thing cladhaire mentioned: http://wowi.pastey.net/80146 |
| 13:14.14 | cladhaire | evt is a cop-out |
| 13:14.15 | Shirik | Though I spell it "evt" instead of "event" because I'm lazy |
| 13:14.17 | cladhaire | two letters |
| 13:14.20 | Shirik | yeah yeah |
| 13:14.21 | cladhaire | readability |
| 13:14.21 | cladhaire | bastard |
| 13:14.25 | Shirik | >< |
| 13:14.33 | Kivin | http://ace.pastey.net/80147 |
| 13:14.39 | Kivin | that's the exact function straight out of FrameXML |
| 13:14.46 | cladhaire | Kivin: yes, and its wrong. |
| 13:14.46 | cladhaire | period. |
| 13:14.47 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:15.03 | cladhaire | that's not an OnEvent handler |
| 13:15.05 | Kivin | cladhaire: You're denying that function handles your chat frame messages? |
| 13:15.12 | Kivin | erm... |
| 13:15.19 | cladhaire | that is not an event handler |
| 13:15.20 | cladhaire | period |
| 13:15.20 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.27 | Shirik | Is that being called from XML? |
| 13:15.28 | cladhaire | that's a function called by an event handler. |
| 13:15.31 | Shirik | yeah |
| 13:15.41 | Kivin | cladhaire: So you want me to hook higher |
| 13:15.44 | cladhaire | subtle but important difference |
| 13:15.50 | cladhaire | no, but don't tell us its an OnEvent handler, when its not :P |
| 13:15.53 | cladhaire | then we give bad advice |
| 13:15.57 | Shirik | yup :P |
| 13:15.59 | Kivin | ... |
| 13:16.10 | Shirik | 14(0811:0811:1814) 14(11+Shirik14) "this" is an evil variable that should only be used in the most dire of cases |
| 13:16.14 | Shirik | I did point out "the most dire of cases" |
| 13:16.24 | Shirik | there are cases where it's necessary, but an OnEvent handler is not one of them |
| 13:16.24 | cladhaire | in this case, if you want to hook at that level, its your only option |
| 13:16.36 | cladhaire | that's why I asked for clarification intially :P |
| 13:17.01 | Kivin | You were pretty quick to say my solution was, what was the wording? "wrong. period." |
| 13:17.20 | Shirik | If it were an OnEvent handler like you said, it /would/ have been "wrong. period." |
| 13:17.31 | cladhaire | this is not tangential |
| 13:17.32 | cladhaire | Shirik: you're using an OnEvent hook? |
| 13:17.32 | cladhaire | [13:09] Shirik: or something else |
| 13:17.32 | cladhaire | [13:09] Kivin: OnEvent |
| 13:17.35 | cladhaire | I responded to this |
| 13:17.42 | cladhaire | and were that the case, it would be wrong, period. |
| 13:18.29 | Kivin | Now that we've wasted ten minutes of all of our time arguing something irrelevant, back to what i was doing: collecting a list of 'this' pointers |
| 13:18.39 | cladhaire | fine, whatever dude. |
| 13:18.41 | cladhaire | we're trying to help |
| 13:18.43 | Shirik | not really irrelevant |
| 13:18.47 | cladhaire | and I don't see why you need this pointers either way |
| 13:19.03 | cladhaire | hook ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 13:19.04 | Shirik | global usage is detrimental to your program |
| 13:19.15 | cladhaire | if the message is being filtered by you, then don't call the original function |
| 13:19.19 | Kivin | cladhaire: Because I don't want to test the same incoming message multiple times, but I want it to hit (possibly) multiple chat frames if it's safe |
| 13:19.22 | cladhaire | otherwise, pass through to the original |
| 13:19.34 | Shirik | cladhaire: Basically he wants to queue up a few messages and then test them all at once |
| 13:19.36 | cladhaire | okay |
| 13:19.39 | Xinhuan | use a table to store past results |
| 13:19.42 | cladhaire | so you want to do it at the ChatFrame_OnEvent level |
| 13:19.44 | Xinhuan | and check that table |
| 13:19.47 | Kivin | I didn't hook MessageEventHandler() because it causes inoperability with other addons |
| 13:19.57 | cladhaire | actually higher than that |
| 13:20.05 | Kivin | Xinhuan: what past results? |
| 13:20.10 | cladhaire | what interoperability issues, out of curiousity? |
| 13:20.21 | Kivin | cladhaire: Prat hooks at the MessageEventHandler level |
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| 13:20.27 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 13:20.27 | CIA-8 | 3.2.2 |
| 13:20.27 | CIA-8 | Feature: Holding down alt while you see the enter/hide popup for a battlefield, allow you to leave instead of hide when clickin on the hide button (which change to leave queue when alt is hold |
| 13:20.31 | Xinhuan | like if you tested MessageA to be something you want to filter out, then store this result in a table |
| 13:20.34 | Polarina | Kivin: What are you filtering? |
| 13:20.38 | Kivin | cladhaire: And prevents relevant things from reaching that |
| 13:20.38 | Xinhuan | next time you see MessageA, you don't have to test it again |
| 13:20.39 | cladhaire | Kivin: but if you call the hook chain on valid messages, that shouldn't cause an issue.. should it? |
| 13:20.47 | Xinhuan | because you alraedy tested it before |
| 13:20.51 | cladhaire | so Prat doesn't preserve the hook chain? |
| 13:20.59 | Kivin | Polarina: potentially any channel |
| 13:21.02 | Kivin | cladhaire: it doesn't |
| 13:21.04 | cladhaire | thats fucked up |
| 13:21.08 | cladhaire | hardcore fuckd up |
| 13:21.16 | Kivin | cladhaire: it reformats things and passes them down to AddMessage |
| 13:21.24 | cladhaire | Kivin: sorry you have to deal with that |
| 13:21.30 | cladhaire | One more reason why I'll never touch Prat |
| 13:21.49 | Kivin | I like what prat does. But ten minutes looking at it's code and I was scarred for life. |
| 13:21.58 | cladhaire | mumble > prat |
| 13:22.02 | cladhaire | without an ounce of hesitation |
| 13:22.07 | Kivin | It almost made me want to rewrite the few things i actually use from prat |
| 13:22.09 | Xinhuan | if you want to play nice with prat, you should make a prat module ;d |
| 13:22.22 | Kivin | Xinhuan: I don't want prat as a dependency |
| 13:22.26 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: that's a horrible idea :P |
| 13:22.29 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 13:22.32 | Kivin | I'm afraid I agree X_X |
| 13:22.34 | cladhaire | Kivin: it could be opt-dept, only loaded when prat is active |
| 13:22.34 | Xinhuan | i don't use prat either |
| 13:22.42 | Xinhuan | its ok, we have the same idea ^^ |
| 13:22.43 | Shirik | well it's no worse than that GDPOS swstats |
| 13:22.52 | Kivin | cladhaire: I'd still need my solution for when Prat isn't loaded... which makes the whole thing irrelevant, sorta. |
| 13:22.53 | cladhaire | sounds like a nasty problem, Kivin |
| 13:22.58 | Shirik | That I had to write an OptDep for to hook into it |
| 13:23.10 | Kivin | It was two days of hooking chat events to figure out why they didn't come through. Then i shut off prat, and voila |
| 13:23.14 | cladhaire | Kivin: No, the goal would be to have your function in the normal addon.. and then have a prat module that loads and calls your code when Prat is loaded |
| 13:23.15 | Shirik | that'll be fixed in 2.4 though anyway |
| 13:23.38 | Xinhuan | one of the main things is that some chat addons don't expect any other chat addon to be running at the same time |
| 13:23.46 | cladhaire | Kivin: wouldn't be too horrible, but it almost seems better than jumping through hoops to avoid issues with prat |
| 13:23.52 | Xinhuan | for example, if you run 2 minimap addons at the same time, your minimap will die horribly |
| 13:23.56 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: but they can still operate correctly in a way that lets the user see the issue. |
| 13:24.05 | Kivin | cladhaire: I don't think I really had to jump through hoops, Just hook one tier higher. |
| 13:24.12 | Xinhuan | yeah, but chatframe hooking is like that |
| 13:24.18 | Kivin | cladhaire: As soon as I started hooking at the current level, everything was groovy |
| 13:24.40 | cladhaire | good then, hope it works out for ya! |
| 13:24.52 | Kivin | The global thing is pretty sloppy though |
| 13:24.54 | cladhaire | I personally feel an AddMessage hook is more than sufficient for these purposes, but I'm down. |
| 13:25.19 | cladhaire | its sticky, filtering messages like this |
| 13:25.26 | Kivin | I don't even really want to think of the hack job this is: http://ace.pastey.net/80148 |
| 13:25.26 | cladhaire | Polarina: how do you handle it, out of curiousity? |
| 13:25.31 | cladhaire | since you're both writing the same addon :P |
| 13:25.36 | Kivin | Are we? o.O |
| 13:25.38 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:25.55 | Polarina | cladhaire: The Complaint Registered or the other thing? |
| 13:26.18 | cladhaire | the actual spam messages |
| 13:26.45 | cladhaire | Kivin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8030-Relegation.html, reports the message, filters it from the chat frame, and the chat bubble. |
| 13:26.52 | Shirik | ok in all honesty, why do people use setglobal? |
| 13:26.58 | Polarina | http://rafb.net/p/31wihf51.html |
| 13:27.16 | Shirik | _G["arg"..i] = msg[n]; |
| 13:27.18 | Kivin | Shirik: setglobal is a holdover from when I couldn't get the said variables to set correctly, i just never took it out |
| 13:27.18 | Polarina | cladhaire: 1.0.9 doesn't yet filter the chat messages. |
| 13:27.30 | cladhaire | Polarina: Ah okay, btu you're both working on the same thing :P |
| 13:27.36 | cladhaire | in parallel |
| 13:27.38 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 13:27.54 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, polarina doesn't attempt to filter it from chatframes, |
| 13:28.03 | Xinhuan | since reporting the player for spamming effectively does that already |
| 13:28.06 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I'm working on it. |
| 13:28.10 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 13:28.26 | Xinhuan | you'reonly listening to the CHAT_MSG_event directly right? |
| 13:28.42 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yes. But I'm also going to filter the chat messages. |
| 13:29.02 | sylvanaar | what are you guys talking about - prat doesnt preserve what hook chain? |
| 13:29.11 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, not that |
| 13:29.13 | Kivin | Shirik: http://ace.pastey.net/80149 |
| 13:29.20 | Xinhuan | its that prat's hookchain doesn't preserve the args |
| 13:29.33 | Shirik | you are an evil man |
| 13:29.39 | Xinhuan | so hooks that check the args to see if the person is a gold spammer sort fails |
| 13:29.43 | Xinhuan | sorta fails |
| 13:29.53 | sylvanaar | lol, oh i see |
| 13:29.58 | Xinhuan | prat adds a lot of formatting stuff |
| 13:30.07 | Xinhuan | so unless their hok goes in first, and not last |
| 13:30.08 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It checks the gold spammer directly. |
| 13:30.11 | Kivin | Prat prevents messages from reaching the blizzard function that formats it and sends it to AddMessage |
| 13:30.16 | Xinhuan | kivin's method doesn't do that though Polarina |
| 13:30.33 | haste | Polarina: 4c1c683cc8f422964d150e172073917fc5898fb1de82b50508fedf7a794466a8 << hash for you btw |
| 13:30.33 | Kivin | ugh, a new message just got through my filters. |
| 13:30.49 | Polarina | haste: Send me the RelegationW SavedVariables file in email. |
| 13:30.51 | Xinhuan | cat-mouse game lol |
| 13:31.50 | haste | Polarina: and if I don't have one :3 ? |
| 13:31.54 | Kivin | i may need to raise the threat-level of $99.99 patterns |
| 13:31.57 | sylvanaar | Actually - Unless prat almost always lets addmessage get called, it just filters the result itself |
| 13:31.59 | Polarina | haste: Then we are out of luck. |
| 13:32.09 | haste | np |
| 13:32.24 | Kivin | sylvanaar: it lets AddMessage get called, but not the function that calls AddMessage |
| 13:32.29 | Polarina | haste: http://files.wowace.com/RelegationW/ |
| 13:32.34 | Xinhuan | haha my /2 chat is currently spammed with [thunderfury, blesssed blah blah] |
| 13:32.42 | Kivin | x_x |
| 13:32.45 | Xinhuan | and some genious decides to link [Thunder][Fury] |
| 13:32.50 | Xinhuan | and everyone laughed |
| 13:32.54 | sylvanaar | what function that calls addmessage |
| 13:33.09 | Kivin | Urhm... |
| 13:33.18 | haste | Polarina: meh, I'll just keep using my modified then |
| 13:33.24 | Kivin | ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 13:33.30 | sylvanaar | <M |
| 13:33.31 | Polarina | haste: What did you modify? |
| 13:33.43 | haste | I just made it easier for me to dump the hashes in-case you wanted them |
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| 13:34.12 | sylvanaar | so prat doesnt let CF_MEH get called is what you are saying? |
| 13:34.21 | Polarina | haste: I request the original message at minimum so people are not sending me for example a hash of a empty string. |
| 13:34.23 | Kivin | That's what I'm saying |
| 13:34.32 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, it may be easier if you have a hookable function in Prat for others to hook, so that their functions can be called before any of prat's hooks |
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| 13:35.00 | Xinhuan | so such an addon would only need to check if prat is loaded, and is so, hook that pre-hook prat function |
| 13:35.26 | Xinhuan | that's what EnhTooltip does |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57953 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.toc Libs/): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | AlarAutomation |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | Fixed: Moved Skip gossip to proper Interface enhancements section |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | Feature: Most of AlarAutomation commands are now bindable |
| 13:35.36 | CIA-8 | Feature: QUICKFISH when you are fishing, displays a cast button for fishing |
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| 13:35.37 | CIA-8 | after you catch your fish, at the point your cursor is, ready to be |
| 13:35.38 | Xinhuan | allow prehooks |
| 13:35.42 | Polarina | haste: And my script for generating that file needs the RelegationW file. |
| 13:35.53 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: how does that work if two addons want to be the first hook? :P |
| 13:36.02 | Xinhuan | then its a conflict :D |
| 13:36.06 | Xinhuan | like 2 minimap addons |
| 13:36.08 | Xinhuan | trying to move it |
| 13:36.14 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 13:36.20 | Xinhuan | you simply run one, or the other, not both |
| 13:36.31 | Xinhuan | why would you run 2 anti-spam addons anyway |
| 13:37.27 | cladhaire | you wouldn't.. |
| 13:37.37 | Xinhuan | someone i think it was arrowmaster or yssaril or somebody, once suggested that a library should be made for message filtering |
| 13:37.41 | sylvanaar | Idk, you know that if your addmessage hook is later than prat you can just filter the addmessage |
| 13:37.50 | Xinhuan | so every addon that wants a certain type of message to be filtered |
| 13:37.55 | Xinhuan | can register to this library to do it |
| 13:38.15 | Polarina | haste: The Email address is gabrielp@simnet.is |
| 13:38.16 | sylvanaar | it was mikk |
| 13:38.19 | Kivin | sylvanaar: I didn't consider that a realistic option because prat mangles chat text in unpredictable ways |
| 13:38.21 | sylvanaar | and he never did it |
| 13:38.35 | sylvanaar | Kivin not during the addmessage call |
| 13:38.47 | sylvanaar | it calls it without changing the text at all |
| 13:39.03 | Kivin | sylvanaar: One of prat's modules changes [2. Trade - City] to just [2] |
| 13:39.05 | Xinhuan | a module could be changing it |
| 13:39.12 | Kivin | That'd be a fatal change for SpamGuard |
| 13:39.13 | Xinhuan | like coloring player names |
| 13:39.30 | Xinhuan | or shortening their names, or inserting clickable hyperlinks |
| 13:39.33 | Kivin | sylvanaar: perhaps i'm just wording things wrong. i consider all of prat's collective modules "prat" |
| 13:39.44 | sylvanaar | seriously - its not that hard. Prat allows the message to go all the way to the addmessage call. Then it intercepts it and prevents it from printing. Then it calls addmessage itself with the formatted text |
| 13:40.08 | Kivin | sylvanaar: At least one of Prat's messages appears to be trapping the function I mentioned earlier |
| 13:40.17 | sylvanaar | If thre is no output from the addmessage call. Prat doesnt try to print anything |
| 13:40.21 | Kivin | sylvanaar: While prat is running, I don't get most of my events |
| 13:40.41 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57954 10AlarArtRemover/ (. AlarArtRemover.toc): |
| 13:40.41 | CIA-8 | AlarArtRemover |
| 13:40.41 | CIA-8 | 1.0.0 |
| 13:40.41 | CIA-8 | Feature: Updated to WoW 2.3 |
| 13:41.09 | Stan_ | ohoo |
| 13:41.18 | sylvanaar | Kivin all i can say to you - is thats the life of a chatmod writer |
| 13:41.30 | Kivin | sylvanaar: Fair enough. I wasn't complaining. |
| 13:42.21 | haste | I am, just busy |
| 13:42.29 | Kivin | And for what it's worth, anyone that wants to hook the same thing I'm hooking will have to contend with the same problems |
| 13:42.40 | Kivin | Because _I_ don't preserve the hook chain |
| 13:42.43 | haste | I don't have the original message, and I can't be arsed to go to IF/SW just to check it |
| 13:43.01 | sylvanaar | You can also just register for the prat event if prat exists, and you just set a flag to filter the message. That's the point of prat - to make it easy to develop chat mods that dont conflict with each other |
| 13:43.15 | Polarina | haste: No problem. Chances are that I already got that message. |
| 13:43.23 | Kivin | sylvanaar: I specifically didn't want Prat to be a dependency |
| 13:43.32 | Xinhuan | kivin, you don't have to make prat a dependency |
| 13:43.36 | sylvanaar | right |
| 13:43.37 | Xinhuan | yu do what your addon does |
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| 13:43.53 | Xinhuan | and if your addon detects prat is present, then do it the way prat likes |
| 13:43.58 | Xinhuan | i.e use that flag |
| 13:44.02 | Kivin | There's no point *shrug* |
| 13:44.24 | Kivin | I'm satisfied with the way things work, with or without prat |
| 13:44.37 | calaveraDeluxe | if i have entered too many instances recently, where can i see when i can enter one again? |
| 13:44.49 | nevcairiel | You can't |
| 13:44.51 | Xinhuan | calaveraDeluxe: impossible |
| 13:44.53 | Kivin | I think it's 5 per hour? |
| 13:44.54 | calaveraDeluxe | damn |
| 13:45.02 | Xinhuan | there is no foolproof method of detecting this with an addon either |
| 13:45.35 | calaveraDeluxe | thanks anyway |
| 13:45.37 | Xinhuan | your next available zone in is exactly 1 hour after the zoning out from your 1st instance (out of your 5), assuming that instance is reset |
| 13:45.56 | Xinhuan | also zoning into instances is account-wide |
| 13:45.58 | Kivin | I suppose you could hook the reset and long the times |
| 13:46.06 | Kivin | s/long/log |
| 13:46.06 | Xinhuan | so you can't do 5 instances on each alt |
| 13:46.10 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It's realm-wide!!! |
| 13:46.25 | Xinhuan | its 5 instances per hour realm-wide. right! :D |
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| 13:47.11 | Armant | Hello |
| 13:47.15 | Xinhuan | hi |
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| 13:48.53 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r57955 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Bugfix winner checking in raids. |
| 13:51.28 | Kivin | Hmm i'll have to increase the sensitivity of the filters now that it doesn't tally the offenses 7 times for each message X_X |
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| 13:52.44 | Kivin | Polarina: Did I read that your addon suppresses the chat bubbles? |
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| 13:54.00 | Polarina | Kivin: Yes. The new version I'm going to release soon will.æ |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57956 10AlarBGHelper/ (AdditionalLibs/ AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-8 | 3.2.2 |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-8 | Feature: Holding down alt while you see the enter/hide popup for a battlefield, |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-8 | allow you to leave instead of hide when clickin on the hide button (which |
| 13:54.03 | CIA-8 | changes to "Leave queue" when alt is hold) |
| 13:54.05 | Polarina | s/æ// |
| 13:54.06 | CIA-8 | Fix: There was a missing externals, so wowace was not upgrading files. |
| 13:54.22 | Kivin | Polarina: Does it do this by using the Ignore List? |
| 13:54.28 | Polarina | Kivin: No. |
| 13:54.43 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57957 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.toc Libs/): |
| 13:54.43 | CIA-8 | AlarTTFrame |
| 13:54.43 | CIA-8 | 4.0.3 |
| 13:54.43 | CIA-8 | Feature: Upgraded embedded library. |
| 13:54.46 | Polarina | Kivin: The ignore list is being left as it is. |
| 13:54.51 | Kivin | Interesting. I was led to believe the chat bubbles couldn't be suppressed. |
| 13:55.06 | cladhaire | there's not an easy way to do it |
| 13:55.07 | cladhaire | but it can be done |
| 13:55.28 | Kivin | It's probably out of the scope of my addon, with the bucketting and all |
| 13:57.11 | Kivin | Sigh, to test arg11s, i'll have to change the whole bucketing architecture. what a pain. |
| 14:05.18 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57958 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Changed some debug statements which used the concatenation operator. |
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| 14:11.37 | Fisker- | Is there an addon that can manage raid invites and raid joins |
| 14:11.50 | Fisker- | i.e. i can check when people joined when forming a raid |
| 14:12.24 | haste | just create a empty chat window that only display system messages! |
| 14:12.27 | haste | or write the add-on yourself :3 |
| 14:13.07 | Fisker- | no u haste |
| 14:13.09 | Fisker- | you write |
| 14:13.14 | haste | no, I'm busy |
| 14:13.15 | Fisker- | oUFUCKINGTARDSUREL8 |
| 14:14.39 | haste | Fisker-: put on some nattefrost and chill |
| 14:15.26 | Fisker- | i'll nattefrost you |
| 14:16.09 | Vulcanus | swine frost mage who's channeling snøstorm outside :( |
| 14:16.57 | Fisker- | SNESTORM |
| 14:17.33 | haste | lol |
| 14:17.37 | Vulcanus | yes whatever, we aren't pansy douches up here |
| 14:17.37 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:17.46 | haste | yeh, the snøstorm is the shit :( |
| 14:18.01 | Fisker- | i hate norwegians |
| 14:18.04 | Fisker- | but not as much as i hate swedes |
| 14:18.13 | Chompers | yes fisker, there is an addon that does that |
| 14:18.14 | Vulcanus | fuck you too :( |
| 14:18.19 | haste | Fisker-: I'll let you hear some nattefrost, give me a sec |
| 14:18.34 | haste | Fisker-: http://haste.ixo.no/11_-_Nattefrost_-_Preteen_Deathfuck.mp3 |
| 14:19.01 | Kivin | o.O interesting name |
| 14:19.05 | Kivin | file name, that is |
| 14:19.16 | haste | it's the song title also |
| 14:19.30 | Chompers | thats one fucking creepy sound file |
| 14:19.34 | Chompers | jesus christ |
| 14:19.43 | haste | nothing like norwegian black metal |
| 14:22.54 | Fisker- | i think i'll pass haste |
| 14:23.45 | haste | :p |
| 14:25.22 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57959 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: handle strange case of self.revision being nil |
| 14:27.37 | Chompers | an acquired taste |
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| 14:31.06 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping. |
| 14:31.10 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 14:31.14 | Zhinjio | heya |
| 14:31.34 | Zhinjio | I may have asked you this already ... how much effort do you put into selling meta gems? Any? |
| 14:32.03 | Xinhuan | i tried getting the raw mats, buy a 4g transmute, then i cut and sell it |
| 14:32.06 | Xinhuan | its pretty good profit |
| 14:32.10 | Xinhuan | but takes up too much time |
| 14:32.15 | Xinhuan | so i stopped doing it |
| 14:32.28 | Zhinjio | I have a toon that can do the transmute, and I have the primals anyway... |
| 14:32.40 | Zhinjio | the limiting factor is the 1 day cooldown |
| 14:32.42 | charon | anyone, by chance, know what a HARP rogue might be? |
| 14:33.13 | Xinhuan | i'm not alch |
| 14:33.17 | Xinhuan | so i don't really bother |
| 14:33.19 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 14:33.41 | Xinhuan | when you have as much gold as i do, you just start to stop caring :D |
| 14:34.08 | Xinhuan | s/ start to // |
| 14:34.11 | Xinhuan | :D |
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| 14:34.26 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
| 14:34.27 | Kivin | That still disgusts me =/ I'm struggling with my epic flight |
| 14:34.48 | Zhinjio | I got a purple recipe drop yesterday. sold in 5 minutes. |
| 14:34.55 | Zhinjio | I might have underpriced it a bit |
| 14:34.56 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 14:35.00 | Kivin | then you weren't asking enough for it |
| 14:35.03 | Xinhuan | what drop |
| 14:35.14 | Zhinjio | Windscale hood |
| 14:35.20 | Xinhuan | sounds crap |
| 14:35.47 | nevcairiel | charon: HARP (Hemo, Adrenaline Rush, Preparation) |
| 14:38.46 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57960 10Prat/extras/no-dependency.lua: Prat: Added sample file on how to write a no-dependency prat-compatible addon. |
| 14:38.56 | charon | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 14:39.00 | AKX | This looks like a bad idea. http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/DSCN7823.JPG |
| 14:39.24 | Kivin | rofl |
| 14:39.27 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 14:39.33 | Vulcanus | what the blue fuck XD |
| 14:39.35 | Polarina | rofl |
| 14:39.46 | Kivin | is anyone that stupid |
| 14:39.56 | Shirik | well |
| 14:39.59 | Polarina | Apperantly. |
| 14:40.03 | Shirik | TECHNICALLY water doesn't conduct electricity |
| 14:40.07 | Vulcanus | Thet look swedish |
| 14:40.11 | Vulcanus | they* |
| 14:40.22 | sylvanaar | thats funny though |
| 14:40.25 | Shirik | it has a neutral PH so the movement of free electrons is limited |
| 14:40.34 | Vulcanus | But PRACTICALLY you're still going to get your ass fried if you toss a hairdryer in there |
| 14:40.38 | Shirik | Unfortunately most water has other stuff in it, chlorine, flouride, whatever |
| 14:40.45 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 14:40.47 | Shirik | which usually pulls it up to somewhere around 8-9 |
| 14:40.49 | nevcairiel | Shirik: a pool generally doesnt have neutral PH to stop plants and all :P |
| 14:40.52 | AKX | Vulcanus, I think they're German |
| 14:41.20 | Shirik | however, in actuality |
| 14:41.24 | sylvanaar | well, it is a floaty pool |
| 14:41.33 | sylvanaar | they filled it with the hose |
| 14:41.33 | Shirik | I'm not convinced that thing is plugged in |
| 14:41.37 | Vulcanus | well I don't know, I'm no Father Jack when it comes to spirits. It just looks like swedes would do it XD |
| 14:41.40 | sylvanaar | right |
| 14:41.44 | Kivin | Shirik: exactly what i was thinking |
| 14:42.15 | AKX | Me neither, Shirik, but still, it's a lulzy picture. |
| 14:42.34 | Vulcanus | Would be hella funny if a blonde came along, found the plug next to the outlet and went "hm, this isn't plugged in..." |
| 14:42.41 | AKX | Haha |
| 14:43.38 | Vulcanus | Anybody got any experiences with ArkInventory? I'm looking for a replacement for OneBag/rpgoutfitter + CharViewer |
| 14:44.11 | Kivin | Vulcanus: I use ai |
| 14:44.22 | Kivin | Vulcanus: I don't do anything advanced with it. |
| 14:44.54 | Vulcanus | nor will I, I just want something that shows my bag as one and doesn't randomly crap out, and that shows my alts bank/bags |
| 14:46.05 | charon | Vulcanus: i use it, i have split everything in about 20 virtual bags for better management, it usually works well though my tanking shoulders got "stuck" (unclickable) twice, no idea if that's AI's or closetgnome's fault |
| 14:46.19 | Kivin | http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4212/aisg1.jpg |
| 14:46.29 | Kivin | that's it. pretty cut 'n dry |
| 14:46.50 | AKX | Okay, yeah, German. http://www.linuxno.de/_data/gallery/nwl7/DSCN7830.JPG |
| 14:46.55 | Kivin | seems to work perfect for offline guild vaults, banks, and inventories |
| 14:47.10 | Vulcanus | looks nice enough, I reckon you can set the column and row count in a config somewhere |
| 14:47.28 | Kivin | um |
| 14:47.38 | Kivin | you set the width |
| 14:47.40 | Kivin | it figures out the rest |
| 14:48.01 | Vulcanus | cool cool |
| 14:48.34 | thul | hey ho |
| 14:48.35 | thul | let's go |
| 14:49.10 | Vulcanus | Second thing I wanna replace: RecipeRadar. In case yall don't know, it's a mod that uses rpgo data to track unknown recipes and lists their location on the world/minimap. Ace got anything of this sort? |
| 14:49.15 | Kivin | mmm windy cloud |
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| 14:49.38 | Kivin | that one beats me, Vulcanus |
| 14:50.21 | thul | The only paradise is paradise lost. |
| 14:50.22 | thul | Marcel Proust |
| 14:50.53 | Vulcanus | hm ok, guess Im not disabling rpgoutfitter yet then XD owells, thanks anyways :) |
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| 14:54.23 | deadlock | If you have two characters on same server, can you use Auctioneer database over both? |
| 14:54.37 | Kivin | I think it's shared? |
| 14:57.15 | Zhinjio | same server, yes |
| 14:57.25 | Zhinjio | same account? |
| 14:57.31 | Zhinjio | must be same account |
| 15:00.24 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57961 10IFrameManager/ (Frames/Anchor.lua Frames/Overlay.lua IFrameManager.lua): IFrameManager: Does anyone actually read these messages? |
| 15:01.17 | Vulcanus | Yes we do |
| 15:01.17 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:01.25 | Kivin | Lies |
| 15:01.28 | Kivin | We really don't :P |
| 15:01.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10704.msg169560;topicseen#new |
| 15:02.00 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 15:02.24 | wereHamster | can someone please update http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4009.0 ? trac link is broken |
| 15:02.39 | wereHamster | seems like nobody is reading the forums either.. |
| 15:02.41 | Xinhuan | its been broken for months |
| 15:02.45 | Xinhuan | so nobody cares |
| 15:03.21 | wereHamster | ATTENTION: Read this -before- posting here! (don't bother reading because all the info is hugely outdated!) |
| 15:06.57 | thul | hmm |
| 15:07.02 | thul | this one rogue, sucks. |
| 15:09.51 | Nickenyfiken | Is GatherMate usable? |
| 15:09.57 | deadlock | Zhinjio: Yes same account, same server. Just dif characters, will the databases cross over? |
| 15:11.21 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 15:12.43 | deadlock | Zhinjio: Cool thank |
| 15:13.03 | Fisker- | BEEP BEEP I'M AN ALARM CLOCK TIEM |
| 15:13.52 | Fisker- | it never gets old |
| 15:14.20 | Polarina | I think I'm going to opt out including the chat bubble filtering. ... |
| 15:17.00 | Xinhuan | its usable, but there is no UI frontend, so you won't see anything displayed |
| 15:17.03 | Xinhuan | so its not really usable |
| 15:17.14 | Xinhuan | only the backend node recording stuff is done |
| 15:26.13 | thul | ach, chain-ganking, joyus world |
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| 15:33.59 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57962 10HealSync/ (Frames/ Frames/Button.lua HealSync.toc HealSyncButton.lua): HealSync: Updated sumthing.. no I'm just kidding.. muahaha |
| 15:35.03 | Kivin | ./echo UnitIsUnit("werehamster", "shag") |
| 15:36.03 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: work on raidcast :P |
| 15:37.29 | Fisker- | btwæh Chompers |
| 15:37.33 | Fisker- | wuts teh addon? |
| 15:40.20 | wereHamster | JoshBork1, raidcast? |
| 15:40.39 | wereHamster | Kivin >> true |
| 15:41.14 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: yea, the mod i'm "writing" that's a generalized HealWatch |
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| 15:48.12 | wereHamster | JoshBork1, will it include all spellcasts? |
| 15:49.46 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: yes. |
| 15:49.46 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: well, anything with a cast time i should say |
| 15:50.16 | Zhinjio | Anyone heard recent status on combuctor? |
| 15:50.30 | JoshBork1 | Zhinjio: it works? |
| 15:50.55 | Zhinjio | looks like its still in alpha |
| 15:51.02 | [Ammo] | it works |
| 15:51.16 | Zhinjio | alrighty |
| 15:51.20 | Zhinjio | I'll give it another try |
| 15:52.04 | Vulcanus | wtf, nether for runic spellthread is 30g now |
| 15:52.12 | Vulcanus | on my server |
| 15:52.31 | JoshBork1 | welcome to "I can buy a nether after 2 heroics" |
| 15:52.58 | Vulcanus | still, fuckin up my market it is |
| 15:53.11 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57963 10HealSync/ (Frames/Button.lua HealSync.lua): HealSync: No wonder it didn't work... |
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| 15:55.29 | Zhinjio | frame still isn't movable. whacky |
| 15:55.57 | Vulcanus | hmh, arkinventory does like to slurp memory |
| 15:56.07 | Kivin | I've never noticed |
| 15:56.21 | Vulcanus | my mem usage went up by 3 meg from onebag to AI |
| 15:56.52 | Kivin | Not sure how that's possible, unless it has like 10 different guild vaults in memory. My AI is taking < 1.5megs |
| 15:57.02 | Vulcanus | mine is taking 4.28 |
| 15:57.11 | Vulcanus | and it has atm 4 chars and 1 guild bank in mem |
| 15:57.37 | Vulcanus | make that 7 chars, out of which 2 does not have bank data |
| 15:57.48 | Kivin | Dunno? |
| 15:58.12 | wereHamster | JoshBork1, screenshot? |
| 15:59.40 | Vulcanus | maybe its that I have resorting enabled? it was by default, but I'm quite capable of sorting my bags myself XD |
| 16:02.37 | Vulcanus | bah its still spiking heavily when I open the bags |
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| 16:10.42 | Kivin | lua> this = 50; t = {this}; print(t[1]) |
| 16:10.42 | lua_bot | Kivin: 50 |
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| 16:18.28 | Kivin | i figured out what arg11 is |
| 16:18.32 | Kivin | ;P |
| 16:18.35 | nevcairiel | what is it? |
| 16:18.51 | Kivin | it's metadata for the [PlayerName] clicky link thing that pulls up a whisper to them |
| 16:20.09 | Kivin | "|Hplayer:"..arg2..":"..arg11.."|h".."["..arg2.."]".."|h" |
| 16:20.45 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 16:20.57 | Kivin | I feel a little more secure using it in my addon now that i know what it is ;p |
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| 16:28.51 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: no screenshot atm, you can check it out of the svn: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/RaidCast/Ace3 |
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| 16:30.44 | Stan_ | illidan stinks :( |
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| 16:32.40 | CIA-8 | 03pericles * r57964 10InventoryOnPar/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:32.40 | CIA-8 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 16:32.40 | CIA-8 | - |
| 16:32.41 | CIA-8 | v8.02 - Fixed frame bug where invisible frame prevents clicks on part of chest icon on paperdoll frame |
| 16:32.41 | CIA-8 | v8.10 - Added text to tooltip to show if items enchanted/buffed |
| 16:32.41 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.44 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.27 | CIA-8 | 03pericles * r57965 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua: |
| 16:33.27 | CIA-8 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 16:33.27 | CIA-8 | - |
| 16:33.27 | CIA-8 | Small text fix |
| 16:33.36 | Kivin | lua> if true then local arg1 = "foo" end print(arg1) |
| 16:33.37 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil |
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| 16:37.57 | wereHamster | JoshBork1, why is it in branches/ ? |
| 16:39.50 | cladhaire | probably so its not on WAU |
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| 16:45.07 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: so it's not in WAU, because it's Ace3, and because it's not ready to be used |
| 16:51.05 | wereHamster | JoshBork1, does it require all players to have it? |
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| 17:08.23 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: sort of. the way it's written it requires CastCommLib, HealSyncLib, or RaidCast installed |
| 17:08.32 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: but it's easily extensible to other mods |
| 17:10.00 | JoshBork1 | in fact, i'll go ahead and add some more listeners in |
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| 17:17.00 | wereHamster | I only see CastCommLib, no HealSyncLib |
| 17:19.59 | JoshBork1 | ah, i meant healcomm |
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| 17:23.03 | Tambu | anyone using pitbull with extreme unit buttons? (xub)? |
| 17:23.24 | JoshBork1 | oh well, i'll fix it later, no time now |
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| 17:24.28 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10701.new#new |
| 17:24.29 | Industrial | rofl |
| 17:24.34 | Industrial | I just woke up |
| 17:24.40 | Industrial | can my day get any better? |
| 17:25.24 | wereHamster | why rofl? |
| 17:30.35 | Ellipsis | there, it just did |
| 17:30.52 | Industrial | wewt |
| 17:31.07 | Industrial | im never gunna wash my face.. no wait maybe I will |
| 17:31.16 | Fisker- | get off your high horse |
| 17:31.29 | Amadeo | Why is his horse high? |
| 17:31.36 | Amadeo | Drugs are bad |
| 17:31.38 | Fisker- | because he's having a good day |
| 17:32.24 | Industrial | ^____________^ |
| 17:32.26 | Fisker- | aww |
| 17:32.51 | Industrial | anyway foodtime baibai |
| 17:32.57 | JoshBork1 | it's not very funny... |
| 17:34.09 | Amadeo | I'm hoping that more libraries can fork and we'll end up with maybe 10 or 12 for a handful of addons ;) |
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| 17:34.23 | Ellipsis | why does everyone else get to have the good days? |
| 17:34.30 | Ellipsis | grumpy Ellipsis is grumpy |
| 17:34.35 | Fisker- | NO |
| 17:34.40 | Fisker- | Grumpy Ellipsis is gruuuuuuuumpyy |
| 17:34.51 | Amadeo | It's all in how you approach your day |
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| 17:38.24 | Amadeo | Anyone read Shacknews? |
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| 17:40.39 | what-K | hi all i look for an addon that i can make notices for player |
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| 17:42.28 | Amadeo | Your ISP smells good |
| 17:43.48 | what-K | ahs someone an idea for such an addon ? |
| 17:43.56 | bigzero | http://www.bestsecuritytips.com/news+article.storyid+433.htm oops...though maybe that wasn't a false-positive |
| 17:44.58 | bigzero | what-K, AuldLangSyne |
| 17:47.19 | what-K | thx |
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| 17:49.58 | kebinusan | hm what an annoying process of trying to improve my framerate in wow w/o totally killing the pretty |
| 17:50.33 | bigzero | hardware upgrade? |
| 17:50.37 | Amadeo | lol |
| 17:50.45 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 17:51.24 | kebinusan | well sorta, cause now Im running two displays and at a higher resolution on the one that has wow full screen windowed which seems to complete negate any performance gains I was expecting |
| 17:51.25 | wereHamster | I can't save functions in savedvariables, right? |
| 17:52.03 | Xinhuan | you can save strings, but not functions |
| 17:52.16 | Xinhuan | if the string is an executable function, you can loadstring() it |
| 17:52.34 | Xinhuan | did that help? |
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| 17:53.48 | wereHamster | well, I'll probably define a bunch of functions and then let the user specify them by name |
| 17:54.23 | Xinhuan | btw i don't know what IFrameManager does, but there is a LibSticky-1.0 |
| 17:54.39 | Xinhuan | that does frames sticking/group dragging and some stuff behavior |
| 17:54.41 | Xinhuan | that autobar uses |
| 18:04.46 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10572.0 you know I actually wrote a lib like that...then someone shot down my idea |
| 18:05.09 | wereHamster | Xinhuan, it's similar, but not quite the same.. |
| 18:09.57 | kebinusan | hm wow is being a cpu hog |
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| 18:10.33 | Elsia | evening |
| 18:10.53 | wereHamster | kebinusan, every game is.. |
| 18:12.14 | Amadeo | WoW uses all available CPU when the game is focused |
| 18:12.35 | kebinusan | ah |
| 18:13.01 | kebinusan | first time with a dual core system, seeing one core pegged was kinda weird |
| 18:15.50 | what-K | bigzero and how can i read the infos how i edit for ppl ` |
| 18:16.27 | bigzero | i think there's an icon that appears next to their name in the friends list or the guild list |
| 18:16.51 | bigzero | I haven't used it in a while |
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| 18:18.14 | SMELTN | is there a new mod that will automate quest turnins? |
| 18:18.47 | JoshBork1 | SMELTN: there are lots of mods that do that |
| 18:18.59 | SMELTN | I just need a good ace one |
| 18:19.01 | SMELTN | : ) |
| 18:19.25 | SMELTN | autoturnin isnt working for me anymore |
| 18:19.26 | JoshBork1 | i dunno, i wrote my own |
| 18:19.33 | SMELTN | so I need an alternative |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r57966 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.de.lua: |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-8 | - deDE typo fix |
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| 18:24.09 | Elsia | hmm actually talking about all available cpu power, i have some addon that has an infinite loop when learning a new skill at a trainer, but it doesn't happen every time. Been unable to track it down yet, any way I can hook and write down who all gets trainer events and identify an addon that loops that way? |
| 18:24.54 | Fin | you can't see what gets what events, as far as I know |
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| 18:26.47 | bigzero | Elsia, use cpu profiling in PerformanceFu...you shouldbe able to tell what mod does it |
| 18:26.57 | Elsia | hmm how? |
| 18:27.15 | CIA-8 | 03Tristan * r57967 10Enhancer/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:27.15 | CIA-8 | Enhancer: |
| 18:27.15 | CIA-8 | - Added some settings for the AP gauge |
| 18:27.47 | bigzero | turn cpu profiling on, detach the tooltip (easier to see that way) and go learn something. whatever ends up at the top is in infinite loop |
| 18:27.52 | bigzero | also sort by cpu usage |
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| 18:28.06 | JoshBork1 | infinite loop usually means hard lock-up |
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| 18:28.25 | bigzero | hmmm, right.. |
| 18:28.27 | Elsia | yeah the problem is that this is equivalent to while true do end and it just freezes everything |
| 18:28.49 | bigzero | disable half and check? |
| 18:28.50 | Elsia | usually I can't alt tab anymore so it's a hard reset |
| 18:29.01 | Elsia | tried that... problem is you only get a few skills per level |
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| 18:29.22 | JoshBork1 | Elsia: do it on an alt |
| 18:29.23 | Elsia | so I get to test very rarely, so even binary search is painful |
| 18:29.40 | Elsia | hmm level 1 alts could work.. just level to 2 and get the first skills |
| 18:29.44 | JoshBork1 | Elsia: you can level an alt to lvl 7/8 and then add and drop radeskills very easily |
| 18:29.45 | bigzero | give us the list of your addons |
| 18:29.55 | Elsia | it's loads |
| 18:30.25 | Elsia | 406 including unembedded libraries |
| 18:30.40 | bigzero | talking about which...is there an easy way to pull out a list of addons? i could see bash script being the answer to that, but anything else? |
| 18:31.02 | Elsia | that's 9 iterations log2 |
| 18:31.24 | Matrix110 | bigzero wtf folder |
| 18:31.31 | Matrix110 | or mean ingame? |
| 18:31.53 | bigzero | Matrix110, that's what i meant by a bash script. Was thinking more of an in-game...but i guess there's no reason |
| 18:31.54 | Elsia | dir Addons > list.txt ? |
| 18:31.57 | cladhaire | Elsia: you don't need to search every single addon, that's silly. |
| 18:32.03 | cladhaire | you know which ones are tradeskill and which aren't. |
| 18:32.13 | Elsia | clad: tried all the obvious ones |
| 18:32.15 | bigzero | Elsia, yeah, that's what i was thinking |
| 18:32.21 | Fin | yeah, there is bigzero |
| 18:32.23 | Elsia | can be anything that looks at spellbook stuff, action bars etc |
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| 18:32.47 | Fin | Elsia: another way to do it is start a new character and disable all mods, just re-enable them a few at a time |
| 18:33.20 | Elsia | yep I think I'll do that.. start a level 1 alt, try delete char repeat... is I think faster than leveling to 8. |
| 18:33.39 | bigzero | then keep leveling..by the time you figure out what mod does it, you'll be at least 60. It's a win win |
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| 18:33.54 | Elsia | hehe well I have the bug because I'm leveling an alt ;) |
| 18:34.10 | Elsia | 20 levels to go to 70 and bug not yet found.. |
| 18:34.41 | Elsia | didn't start seriously looking til 45 though before that I was hoping that updating addons would resolve the issue |
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| 18:36.24 | bigzero | pastey your addons anyway...curious to see |
| 18:36.37 | Daemona | sometimes i wish people don't survive shit like this -.- .... http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/DSCN7823.JPG |
| 18:36.53 | Elsia | addon list: http://ace.pastey.net/80174 |
| 18:36.58 | Daemona | how stupid has a bunch of drunks to be to fuck up that badly? |
| 18:37.09 | Fin | awesome |
| 18:37.10 | Fin | totally awesome |
| 18:38.02 | Elsia | pretty sure it's not pugged in ;) |
| 18:38.05 | bigzero | well, technically they are sitting in a rubber pool...so it's not grounded |
| 18:38.11 | Elsia | or the fuse blew immediately |
| 18:38.27 | Elsia | nah water would connect the connector ground with + |
| 18:38.36 | bigzero | that too |
| 18:39.27 | Elsia | i was actually suspecting trainerfu but that wasn't it. also armory wasn't it. |
| 18:40.01 | Elsia | and neither was DrDamage |
| 18:40.43 | bigzero | Elsia, autoLFG2 how's that different from v1? |
| 18:41.19 | Elsia | I didn't like that it put text in the label box, so I hacked my own little changed version |
| 18:41.58 | bigzero | ah, gotcha |
| 18:42.02 | Elsia | basically just ditch the the SetLFGComment |
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| 18:44.46 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57968 10ActionCombat/ (ActionCombat.lua Readme.txt): ActionCombat: Hideable without standby |
| 18:48.57 | Elsia | trouble with the list is that I don't see any obvious candidates... DrDamage, armory and trainerfu I have already ruled out. Can't really think what else beside bartender really cares about spellbook changes, well rangecheck-1.0 could. |
| 18:49.51 | Elsia | er hmm I think it may be rangecheck-1.0.. let me paste this |
| 18:50.55 | Elsia | http://ace.pastey.net/80175, doesn't that look like it could hang if it looks for say Sap (Rank 1) but now spellbook has Sap (Rank 2)? |
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| 18:51.06 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57969 10/branches/GatherMate/ (7 files in 2 dirs): GatherMate: added acetimer-3.0 and updates to rare spawns and a basic search funtion |
| 18:52.14 | what-K | gaves an addon that say me when i can use overpower ? |
| 18:52.44 | Elsia | most scrolling combat texts will do that, parrot, sct etc |
| 18:52.46 | Fin | SCT, MSBT, Red Alert, etc. etc. |
| 18:52.51 | Fin | there's approximately a million |
| 18:53.05 | Fin | it's true, I counted |
| 18:54.11 | Elsia | nah that look is fine... the GetSpellBook will return nil when it exhausts the spellbook check. |
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| 18:54.23 | what-K | i have sct but it says nothing |
| 18:55.49 | Elsia | if you want to explicitly configure such stuff for visual display and like graphicy things you can try powerauras |
| 18:56.14 | bigzero | Elsia, search your addon directory for GetSpellName( |
| 18:56.31 | Elsia | good idea |
| 18:57.34 | bigzero | actually searching for LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB would probably be better |
| 18:57.54 | Elsia | meh stupid windows search, any trick I can do this in cygwin? |
| 18:58.03 | bigzero | get notepad++ |
| 18:58.06 | bigzero | :-) |
| 18:58.16 | Fin | doing what, Elysia? |
| 18:58.23 | Elsia | ah I'll abuse scite |
| 18:58.38 | Fin | you're trying to grep for something? |
| 18:58.38 | Elsia | finding an addon that infinite-loops when learning a new skill from a trainer |
| 18:58.45 | bigzero | Fin, yes |
| 18:58.46 | Elsia | yep grep basically |
| 18:58.56 | Fin | oh, right, do grep -r 'GetSpellName' * from your addons folder |
| 18:59.03 | Fin | or, if you want it a bit quicker: |
| 18:59.11 | Fin | grep GetSpellName */*.lua |
| 18:59.17 | Fin | (that won't search every single file, though) |
| 18:59.32 | bigzero | i still say Notepad++ is a good solution. i love the search in files functionality |
| 18:59.47 | Fin | Notepad++ just uses Windows' findstr, which is basically grep |
| 19:00.03 | bigzero | yeah...but you get an awesome text editor along with it |
| 19:00.05 | Fin | findstr /? for info |
| 19:00.31 | bigzero | and it has a nice way of displaying the results for the search |
| 19:00.42 | Fin | I don't like Notepad++, it's too bulky compared to SciTE itself and I there's no features I've seen that I'd use |
| 19:00.48 | Fin | also they don't credit SciTE enough I think :) |
| 19:00.57 | Fin | but, fair enough |
| 19:01.00 | Fin | each to their own |
| 19:01.28 | Elsia | Result for LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB: Clique, Grid, PitBull_DruidManaBar, RangeCheck-1.0, SimpleRangeIndicator, SmartBuff, SmartDebuff. Nice and short list |
| 19:01.52 | Elsia | let me first check my own addon first :D |
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| 19:06.04 | bigzero | hehe, clique seems to work fine for me...though i haven't learned spells in a while |
| 19:06.34 | Elsia | I'm pretty sure it's not clique and grid, these are used way too much. I don't trust SmartBuff but it's used a lot too |
| 19:07.11 | Elsia | frankly I still think it's RangeCheck, it's a rarely used library |
| 19:07.30 | Elsia | could be druidmanabar but, SRI actually just uses rangecheck |
| 19:07.59 | Elsia | because it hangs not for all spells but just a some... and rangecheck actually just looks for some spells. |
| 19:08.51 | chiper | does anyone know of any DPS gauges that reset themselves periodically? |
| 19:09.10 | chiper | looking for something to mitigate AOE bursts |
| 19:09.21 | Elsia | nah druidmanabar looks solid |
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| 19:10.05 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 19:10.09 | Kivin | chiper: I know that Recap has a "last battle" option, not sure about others. That might suffice for showing short term DPS |
| 19:10.11 | Kivin | morning |
| 19:10.27 | chiper | been using SW_Stats, but it marks DPS averaged over the whole fight, so if there's any AoE pulls the mages and warlocks get grossly oversized for the rest of the run |
| 19:10.40 | chiper | s/fight/instance |
| 19:11.57 | JoshBork1 | chiper: Recount has per combat records |
| 19:12.05 | JoshBork1 | but doesn't let you ignore certain events |
| 19:12.06 | chiper | ok |
| 19:12.07 | JoshBork1 | you'd have to resxet |
| 19:13.11 | chiper | I was hoping FubarDPS would have a function to auto reset the session every so often, but no such luck |
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| 19:15.58 | Kivin | Where's some gold spam when I actually need it |
| 19:16.15 | Elsia | cool, so basically rangecheck or smartbuff, I wanted to replace smartbuff anyway. is there a comparable alternative? |
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| 19:28.28 | bigzero | RangeChecker looks ok...i can't find any infinite loops. at least not for that event |
| 19:29.01 | CIA-8 | 03polarina * r57970 10Relegation/ (12 files in 8 dirs): |
| 19:29.01 | CIA-8 | Relegation: |
| 19:29.01 | CIA-8 | - Updated signatures. |
| 19:29.01 | CIA-8 | - Added filtering of "evil" chat messages. |
| 19:29.02 | Elsia | yep checked all loops actually, also smartbuff looks clean, it's a simple for over a table, can't see how that hangs |
| 19:29.21 | bigzero | tried disabling them? |
| 19:29.55 | Elsia | well I can next time I get to train ;) I could start leveling a lowbie, but don't think I have the time |
| 19:30.39 | Elsia | trouble is that it doesn't hang for all training, both rangecheck and smartbuff compares to a specific subset.. I could hack in the first ability one learns though and see what happens |
| 19:31.13 | Elsia | but who knows, maybe it's neither of those.. an addon could scan the spellbook outside of the event |
| 19:32.27 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57971 10Mirror/Mirror.lua: |
| 19:32.27 | CIA-8 | Mirror: |
| 19:32.27 | CIA-8 | - added slash command (/mirror) to enable/disable link-hover option. still need to reload UI for changes to take effect |
| 19:32.59 | Fin | bigzero: what does mirror do? |
| 19:33.06 | Elsia | eqcompare :) |
| 19:33.16 | bigzero | Fin, tekKompare, just on wowace svn pretty much |
| 19:33.21 | bigzero | a little bit more filtering |
| 19:33.25 | Fin | bigzero: may I ask if there's any primary differences between EquipCompare and EQCompare? |
| 19:33.36 | bigzero | hmmm, hold one sec |
| 19:33.43 | Fin | and by link-hover, do you mean that you don't have to click the link to see the tooltip? |
| 19:34.07 | Elsia | EquipCompare supports CharacterProfiler/CV and some other addons explicitly, EQcompare supports skinner, atlas loot |
| 19:34.32 | Elsia | equipcompare is about twice as big as eqcompare currently but it does more things (if you need them) |
| 19:35.20 | Elsia | there is a nice patched version of equipcompare that works with armory (that's what I'm using currently) |
| 19:35.34 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10261.0 |
| 19:35.40 | Elsia | allows comparison tooltips across alts |
| 19:35.41 | bigzero | that summarizes it |
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| 19:36.14 | Elsia | neither eqcompare nor equipcompare are very minimalist though |
| 19:38.11 | Fin | does EQCompare have an option to only show when a modifier key is held down? |
| 19:38.16 | Fin | I should just go look this up |
| 19:38.26 | bigzero | Fin, that's default blizz behavior |
| 19:38.36 | Fin | I *have* tried both a few months ago, and I settled on EquipCompare |
| 19:38.46 | bigzero | the idea of Mirror is that holding down shift all the time is annoying |
| 19:38.51 | Stan_ | go go tekKompare |
| 19:38.57 | Fin | however I'd like it if I could switch to EQCompare just for updating's sake |
| 19:38.58 | Elsia | eqcompare has that feature actually if I recall correctly, never used it though |
| 19:39.21 | Elsia | eqcompare isn't updated anymore actually |
| 19:39.41 | Elsia | so just stay with what works for you, equipcompare sees more maintenance than eqcompare currently |
| 19:39.55 | Fin | well |
| 19:40.01 | Fin | it's really Mirror I'm asking about, actually |
| 19:40.08 | Lukian | <Fin> does EQCompare have an option to only show when a modifier key is held down? <- what |
| 19:40.08 | Elsia | mirror is a good option if you want WAU updates ;) |
| 19:40.19 | Lukian | That functionality is built into the game name |
| 19:40.20 | bigzero | you know, i don't understand why atlasloot doesn't use GameTooltip |
| 19:40.43 | Fin | Lukian: I was unaware of that, as /eqc has had that option there for years and I've never needed to go into the game options to change it |
| 19:40.57 | Lukian | s/name/now/ |
| 19:41.11 | Fin | bigzero: are you branching the code and making updates to it yourself, then? |
| 19:41.27 | Fin | bigzero: ie, are you receiving feature requests / bug reports etc? |
| 19:41.28 | bigzero | Fin, the main reason to not use EQC is that basically it just replicates what blizzard already does and is thus much more prone to breaking on blizz update |
| 19:41.40 | Fin | I don't use EQCompare, I use EquipCompare |
| 19:41.46 | bigzero | Fin, yes, it's actively maintained by me |
| 19:41.58 | Fin | maintained is not quite what I was asking |
| 19:42.15 | Fin | I was wondering if perhaps you were just copying tekkub's code for convenience's sake or something |
| 19:42.19 | Fin | but, great |
| 19:42.36 | Elsia | nah mirror is different than tekkompare ;) |
| 19:42.45 | Fin | oh, OK |
| 19:43.22 | Elsia | tekkompare is the shortest possible way to make item comparison tooltips show without holding down a key + a oneliner to prevent issues with cowtip |
| 19:44.07 | Elsia | mirror does more than tekkompare basically but bigz can tell you about that |
| 19:46.24 | kebinusan | coming up with guild rank themes is rough |
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| 19:46.44 | Antiarc | Our second lowest rank is "Guild Master" |
| 19:46.49 | Antiarc | So I can invite people to the guild |
| 19:46.52 | Antiarc | Bump them a rank |
| 19:47.03 | Antiarc | And they get "Adrine has promoted Stfunoob to Guild Master" |
| 19:47.07 | Antiarc | And then they get all excited. |
| 19:47.09 | Antiarc | It's rather amusing. |
| 19:47.30 | Fin | ahaha that's brilliant |
| 19:47.36 | kebinusan | yeah I did a reversed rank theme for a while |
| 19:47.49 | kebinusan | where gm = recruit, and recruit = guild master for the rank name |
| 19:48.08 | kebinusan | was certainly more amusing than the naruto theme |
| 19:48.09 | aliset | Our lowest guild rank is "nubling" - we find that everyone who really gets up in arms about it doesn't last long in the guild. Using ranks to auto-filter is faaaantastic! |
| 19:48.34 | kebinusan | our punishment rank changes, this week its 'the kitchen' cause we're sexist |
| 19:48.41 | Fin | I used to have a rank where you couldn't speak in guild chat |
| 19:48.59 | Fin | frustrating as fuck not being able to do that |
| 19:49.08 | AKX | kebinusan, go make me a sandwich. |
| 19:49.39 | kebinusan | sorry Im doing the dishes |
| 19:49.50 | AKX | Well fine, after that then. |
| 19:50.34 | Fin | does Pitbull have slash commands? |
| 19:51.06 | Matrix110 | it had atleast |
| 19:51.13 | Elsia | I'm pretty sure that /pitbull works but it may be that it now just launches rockconfig |
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| 19:52.30 | Fin | yes, it does |
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| 19:52.49 | Fin | it's really annoying, I used to have a key binding for lock / unlock bars (via a macro), but I can't do that anymore :/ |
| 19:53.05 | aliset | so, I need some advice. I screwed up a few things in TankPoints while adding something awesome. (how severely screwed up? well, it made it through a 3-month beta without people noticing it, but once you know about it it's VERY noticeable....). I did it without WhiteTooth's permission. I can fix the problems, but it'll be even more modifications to trunk. Should I a) apply all my changes to a branch and do a rollback, b) apply fixes to |
| 19:53.49 | Elsia | yep, my first remark when ckk removed slash commands was that it removes setting changes via macro |
| 19:53.49 | aliset | 's permission. (still no contact from the wolf) |
| 19:53.49 | Fin | aliset: revert to a previous version and reincorporate your updates |
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| 19:54.00 | Fin | you ended ad "b) apply fixes to" btw |
| 19:54.07 | Fin | so the next sentence didn't make any sense |
| 19:54.10 | Fin | +partial |
| 19:54.23 | bigzero | Fin, sorry, had a little emergency. Nah, i didn't copy tekKompare's code, it just ended up being very similar. Mirror adds some filtering, like not displaying comparisons when looking at your own gear (except for weapons, rings, and trinkets) and also no comparisons for stuff dragged out on your action bars (default blizzard ones anyway) |
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| 19:54.35 | aliset | aaaah, (c) refers to working on the trunk. a & b to working on the branch. |
| 19:55.00 | aliset | c was "merge in fixes without whitetooth's permission" |
| 19:55.09 | Fin | bigzero: OK, righto - I only thought you were copying tekkub's code cos Elsia said that Mirror = tekKompare on wowace |
| 19:55.12 | aliset | a - rollback, b - leave as is |
| 19:55.23 | Fin | aliset: no, I mean, you ended on "b) apply fixes to" <- end here |
| 19:55.31 | Elsia | actually someone else said that hehe |
| 19:55.55 | Elsia | <bigzero> Fin, tekKompare, just on wowace svn pretty much |
| 19:56.04 | Provus | Does anyone know how to configure GridExtraBar? I wanted it to be a mana bar (the alternative is one at the side) but I can't figure out how. |
| 19:56.09 | aliset | trying again (god, I really should get some lunch - my blood sugar is kicking my ass) |
| 19:56.09 | Fin | oh, pardon me then |
| 19:56.12 | bigzero | Elsia, i blame you anyway |
| 19:56.13 | Elsia | no bother |
| 19:56.19 | Elsia | yep it's me :D |
| 19:56.47 | aliset | a) fix it on the branch and rollback the trunk. b) fix it on the branch and leave the trunk. c) fix it on the trunk |
| 19:57.27 | Fin | c) and then reincorporate your updates |
| 19:57.31 | aliset | keeping in mind I've had a lot of people contact me loving the change. |
| 19:57.52 | Fin | sounds like it's worth keeping the change, but the priority should be fixing it |
| 19:57.54 | aliset | alright. I'm a "you break it you fix it" kinda guy too. |
| 19:58.01 | Provus | I go to the Extra Bar tab on the side but all it does is list status checkboxes like the rest of these, I'm wondering if that's a bug because it doesn't seem to be doing anything. |
| 19:58.57 | aliset | anyone here use TankPoints? I'd really appreciate someone taking a glance at the latest calculator and telling me if it worksforthem |
| 20:02.02 | aliset | Ammo, you around? You'd make my day if that oRA2 patch I submitted on the forums went in. :-) |
| 20:02.06 | aliset | well, at the least I'd feel better. |
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| 20:02.12 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 20:02.48 | Lothaer | any there? |
| 20:02.53 | aliset | yep. |
| 20:02.55 | Kivin | nope |
| 20:02.58 | Lothaer | lol |
| 20:03.00 | [Ammo] | h,m? |
| 20:03.21 | Lothaer | question, now that NECB has been abandoned what alternatives can u guys reccomend? |
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| 20:03.54 | Kivin | Not a clue what that is |
| 20:04.04 | Lothaer | Natur Enemby Cast Bar |
| 20:04.21 | Lothaer | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3742 |
| 20:04.34 | bigzero | on that note...ClassTimers doesn't always register some debuffs applied...need to look at the code |
| 20:04.36 | Lothaer | its a timer mod for... well almost every thing you can time |
| 20:04.37 | aliset | [Ammo], http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2099.msg169459#msg169459 |
| 20:05.01 | Thrae | Alright, lemme speak and see how many people yelled at me. |
| 20:05.08 | Lothaer | i use oRA2 and oRA2 is not NECB |
| 20:05.16 | Thrae | Oh, I was already set not away. |
| 20:07.03 | [Ammo] | I don't see a use for that feature aliset |
| 20:07.09 | [Ammo] | just create a separate module |
| 20:07.17 | aliset | sounds good. |
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| 20:07.39 | Lothaer | so is there a Ace alternative to NEXB? |
| 20:07.43 | Lothaer | NECB* |
| 20:08.02 | [Ammo] | Antagnoist |
| 20:08.12 | Pernicius | i use Quarz .. |
| 20:09.06 | aliset | [Ammo], before I embarass myself, where are the oRA2 modules on the svn server? |
| 20:10.34 | bigzero | anyone on a non-english wow client? |
| 20:10.57 | Lothaer | i might give quartz a try. |
| 20:10.59 | Lothaer | thyanks |
| 20:11.18 | [SW]Dodge | bigzero: me |
| 20:11.22 | [SW]Dodge | deDE |
| 20:11.28 | Pernicius | bigzero ... what do you want? |
| 20:11.36 | Pernicius | also deDE |
| 20:11.37 | [Ammo] | just make a separete oRA2_Something folder |
| 20:11.41 | [Ammo] | as a separate thing |
| 20:11.42 | Matrix110 | there is no reason to use a non enGB/enUS client if they are all as retarted as the deDE one :P |
| 20:11.58 | Lothaer | but i sure am gonna miss the "First Kill" etc sounds form NECB though. |
| 20:12.00 | bigzero | could you check if select(6,GetItemInfo("<some weapon link>")) returns the same value as ENCHSLOT_WEAPON |
| 20:12.37 | Provus | Can anyone tell me how to create an offset with this line of code? I know the x and y adjustments go somewhere, just don't know where |
| 20:12.39 | Provus | f.icontop:SetPoint("TOP", f, "TOP") |
| 20:12.46 | Provus | Trying to modify GridIndicatorSideIcons |
| 20:13.19 | bigzero | the comment in the blizz code says that the constant is used to filter enchants, so idk if it would be the same string in different languages. The two match in english |
| 20:13.29 | aliset | [Ammo], do you play on a PvP server? |
| 20:13.36 | Provus | Can someone just put X and Y where they should be on that line of code? |
| 20:13.47 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 20:13.50 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 20:14.05 | aliset | that explains it. ;-p |
| 20:14.14 | [Ammo] | pvp servers ftw |
| 20:14.33 | aliset | the whole PvP flag thing is a horrible PITA for PvE |
| 20:14.39 | [Ammo] | why? |
| 20:14.46 | aliset | I wish I did, but they didn't have RP-PvP when I started. |
| 20:15.01 | [Ammo] | just slaughter any opposition |
| 20:15.06 | [Ammo] | steamroll them to the raid instance |
| 20:15.25 | aliset | well, if you're flagged and your healer is not and the healer is trying to do a group heal |
| 20:15.40 | aliset | and targets a non-flagged person, the group heal doesn't hit the PvP flagged people |
| 20:15.46 | aliset | ...same for buffs and such |
| 20:15.59 | aliset | so if you have a mix of flagged and unflagged... |
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| 20:16.04 | bigzero | here's the code to test for what i asked /print select(6,GetItemInfo("[weapon link]")) == ENCHSLOT_WEAPON |
| 20:16.08 | bigzero | should print true |
| 20:16.09 | [Ammo] | that's what unitframes are for |
| 20:16.25 | aliset | well, the same could be argued for mouseovers and zone checks ;-p |
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| 20:16.38 | aliset | but once you've done it a bunch, having a quick check is very nice |
| 20:16.50 | aliset | to make sure everyone is on the same page |
| 20:16.55 | aliset | (either flagged or not) |
| 20:17.45 | Kivin | I wont go in an instance if a person is flagged =X |
| 20:18.31 | bigzero | darn blizzard...they don't have localized strings for classes. |
| 20:18.45 | aliset | yes, and there's the "joy" of people who think "everyone flag up" doesn't mean them. |
| 20:19.11 | Kivin | bigzero: yes they do |
| 20:19.16 | Kivin | UnitClass() |
| 20:19.20 | JoshBork1 | bigzero: you can get some localized versions from UnitClass |
| 20:19.28 | JoshBork1 | but requires you to have every class available as a unit |
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| 20:20.04 | bigzero | hah, good to know. thanks |
| 20:20.13 | aliset | doesn't Babble have translations for that? |
| 20:20.24 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather nailem |
| 20:20.25 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r57972 10RaidCast/RaidCast_CommHandlers.lua: RaidCast: drycoded addition of support for HealSync |
| 20:20.26 | JoshBork1 | !api UnitClass |
| 20:20.27 | bigzero | but not very useful for me |
| 20:20.53 | Provus | -shrug- Well I figured offsets out. Does anyone know if anyone's configured a Grid addon that sets up functionality for right click? |
| 20:21.04 | Pkekyo| | thraebot dead? |
| 20:21.09 | bigzero | aliset, including babble just for that is ftl |
| 20:21.15 | Thrae | You could use the "random" principle for algorithms -- consider the average player will see all classes at some point, and get the translations that way. |
| 20:21.26 | ThraeBot | JoshBork1: localizedClass, englishClass = UnitClass("unit"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitClass |
| 20:21.54 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: Wowarmory is incredibly slow, making ThraeBot slow since he's single thread |
| 20:22.00 | aliset | bigzero: shouldn't need all of Babble, should you? |
| 20:22.11 | bigzero | aliset, nope, but still |
| 20:22.23 | aliset | but yeah. Still, if you need other translations.... |
| 20:22.26 | JoshBork1 | bigzero: it's 8 classes, do it yourself :P |
| 20:22.30 | aliset | or you could use the magic of copy and paste |
| 20:22.37 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: anything special happened to wowarmory? or is it just that blizz's webdevelopers don't know their arse from a keyboard? |
| 20:23.05 | aliset | Pkekyo|, I bet part of it is people coming back to school |
| 20:23.07 | aliset | ie WoW |
| 20:23.13 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: I have no idea, except it was annoying to have to code an exception for "Waiting to refresh" (the armory doesn't actually return that, it returns something semi-legitimate) |
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| 20:23.29 | bigzero | JoshBork1, that's what i'll have to resort to i suppose. Blizzard should just give us those translations. Especially since they are returned localized by their API |
| 20:24.01 | Pkekyo| | alisetPkekyo|, I bet part of it is people coming back to school <---- wait....what?! |
| 20:24.13 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: it's coded for ie in other words? :p |
| 20:24.28 | Thrae | bigzero: There are tons of translations Blizzard does for each client, they may just not want to pollute the global namespace...then again, NEW translations added could be made into a function or somesuch |
| 20:24.33 | Kivin | It returns valid XML by the looks of it. |
| 20:24.47 | Kivin | Just not all of it |
| 20:24.49 | Pkekyo| | just shitty valid XML? :p |
| 20:25.02 | Kivin | I get my arena teams and stuff |
| 20:25.26 | Pkekyo| | I burst into tears every time I bloody see the armory.....well, not really, but I should |
| 20:25.41 | Kivin | The 'waiting for refresh' is getting *Very* old |
| 20:25.51 | Kivin | wtb a wowhead based ct profile |
| 20:25.54 | aliset | Pkekyo|, nice. |
| 20:25.59 | aliset | :-) |
| 20:26.01 | Pkekyo| | lol, agreed Kivin |
| 20:26.21 | Kivin | wowhead had their talent calculator fixed after 2.3 sooner than blizzard did :P |
| 20:26.31 | Pkekyo| | I'm not surprised tbh |
| 20:26.59 | Kivin | Neither am I. But pretty silly when a multi-million dollar enterprise has less uptime than a fan group. |
| 20:27.00 | Pkekyo| | wowarmory qualifies for one of the shittiest designed commercial websites I've ever seen.... and I bloody blame bloated-with-eyecandy Vista |
| 20:27.21 | Kivin | What's Vista got to do with 'anything' here? |
| 20:27.39 | Pkekyo| | armory is full of bloated eyecandy, as is vista.... |
| 20:28.04 | Kivin | My Underbog group lead just tried to sell my hunter a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31145 |
| 20:28.11 | Pkekyo| | "ooh, let's put in one of those fancypants blue glowing borders here that will take hours to load if not on fiber!" |
| 20:28.36 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: give them 2g, 50s for it |
| 20:28.41 | Kivin | lol :P |
| 20:28.43 | aliset | There's a street near me called "Failing Street". |
| 20:28.57 | aliset | if that's not photo-worthy, I don't know what is. |
| 20:28.59 | Pkekyo| | aliset: does it lead to blizz hq? :p |
| 20:29.20 | aliset | now how to get my raid group photoshopped in for when we're having a bad night..... |
| 20:29.20 | CIA-8 | 03aviana * r57973 10Numen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:29.20 | CIA-8 | Numen: |
| 20:29.20 | CIA-8 | - Added the ability to show a button for Totemic Call (This is off by default). |
| 20:29.21 | Kivin | where the blizzard web team lives |
| 20:29.23 | Pkekyo| | found a street with my father's name down in holland once lol :p |
| 20:29.34 | Pkekyo| | indeed Kivin |
| 20:30.02 | Kivin | And let's not even go there with the CMs |
| 20:30.15 | Pkekyo| | CMs? what CMs? haven't seen any for a year or so |
| 20:30.21 | Kivin | They're around |
| 20:30.30 | Kivin | I see them reply to threads once in a blue moon on my class forums |
| 20:30.42 | Pkekyo| | methinks blizz fired'em all...and hooked some of those fancypants msn-bots onto their forums |
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| 20:31.13 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: on my class forums, the only blue post for the last six months has been in a "rate warrior name" thread |
| 20:31.30 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: I loled |
| 20:31.46 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: sad but true /wrist |
| 20:31.49 | aliset | anyone else using git-svn? |
| 20:32.11 | Pkekyo| | hmm...let's try again |
| 20:32.14 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather nailem |
| 20:33.06 | Pkekyo| | oh sod it, I'll never find out what specc that tosser has >.< |
| 20:33.19 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: you us? |
| 20:33.23 | Kivin | yes |
| 20:33.35 | Pkekyo| | figures you have CMs them |
| 20:33.37 | Pkekyo| | <--- EU |
| 20:33.45 | Kivin | :P |
| 20:33.48 | Kivin | Our CMs are superficial |
| 20:33.56 | Kivin | They just say random crap to keep the blue post count up |
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| 20:34.20 | Pkekyo| | only blue post we get is a copy/paste of some US blue's statement once every expansion or so |
| 20:34.34 | Kivin | At least it's wow related |
| 20:34.41 | Cryect | What about Kalgan's postings? |
| 20:35.04 | Kivin | Our CMs are the target of much ridicule |
| 20:35.04 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: hardly |
| 20:35.25 | Pkekyo| | L M F A O |
| 20:35.29 | Kivin | Eonix get's picked on constantly |
| 20:35.40 | Pkekyo| | some how my deep wounds dod managed to take 25% off a lvl 70 mob's health |
| 20:36.00 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: atleast you've got blues, we don't...except in "rate this and that" posts ofc |
| 20:36.24 | Kivin | *Shrug* maybe I'd appreciate them more if they seemed like they get results |
| 20:36.33 | Kivin | Hey, I shouldn't even complain. Retribution keeps getting better. |
| 20:36.44 | Pkekyo| | I would love to have CMs to make fun of...I don't even know the name of a single eu CM |
| 20:37.07 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: you retri? |
| 20:37.12 | Kivin | On my pali, yes |
| 20:37.37 | Pkekyo| | does people think you're credible/take you seriously? |
| 20:37.44 | Kivin | No |
| 20:38.00 | Kivin | It's the only class/spec that I've been publicly ridiculed on almsot every day |
| 20:38.18 | Kivin | I had a lv.23 shaman walk up to me on top of the Orgrimmar bank today and say "learn to holy, you noob. ret = useless |
| 20:38.49 | Pkekyo| | also, are US retris also crying to get DW? |
| 20:38.49 | Kivin | The people that do heroics with me know what I'm capable of, though. |
| 20:38.50 | bigzero | ummm, Babble-Inventory-2.2 has a translation for "Idol". GetItemInfo() returns "Idols"...FTL |
| 20:38.54 | Kivin | rofl, no |
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| 20:39.09 | CIA-8 | cyCircled: |
| 20:39.09 | CIA-8 | - Updated Numen skin for the new button |
| 20:39.28 | bigzero | now the question is whether or not that should be fixed in Babble |
| 20:39.29 | Pkekyo| | there's this lolretri in my guild that keeps crying about not being able to dual wield.... |
| 20:39.34 | Pkekyo| | refuses to roll a warrior though |
| 20:39.37 | Pkekyo| | or a shammy |
| 20:39.40 | Kivin | that's retarded on so many levels |
| 20:40.04 | Kivin | I would be fully satisfied with Ret on a raid, pvp, and heroic level if they carry out the Crusader Strike 2.3.2 change, and re-itemize all of our class-specific gear. |
| 20:40.10 | Pkekyo| | see why I find it hard to take a retri seriously? :p |
| 20:40.26 | Kivin | I religiously keep datasets from my dmg meter for every heroic I do |
| 20:40.50 | Pkekyo| | is it true the lolretri arenagear doesn't have resilience? |
| 20:40.52 | Kivin | I've only been out DPSed a few times, by people that vastly outgear (like, 2 tiers better than me) |
| 20:40.54 | Kivin | it's true |
| 20:41.03 | Kivin | it has spell damage, too, which is equally retarded |
| 20:41.18 | Kivin | we itemize exactly the same as a MS warrior, now, and all our gear is covered in int and spell damage |
| 20:41.41 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 20:41.52 | Kivin | Seal of Blood has a 0% coefficient, and Crusader Strike is getting it's 40% co-e reduced to 0% in 2.3.2 |
| 20:42.23 | Pkekyo| | I'm just waiting for you lot to get MS tbh |
| 20:42.41 | Pkekyo| | it seems blizz is handing it out to any unsatisfied class nowadays :p |
| 20:42.51 | Kivin | The day blizzard gives us a useful PvP skill is the day wow implodes and kills Chuck Norris |
| 20:43.45 | Pkekyo| | fuck chuck norris |
| 20:44.03 | Pkekyo| | fuck him up the arse with a spiked maul and let him bleed to death in th egutter |
| 20:44.32 | Kivin | I asked a GM this morning what happens when [The Unstoppable Force] strikes [The Immovable Object] and he told me that Chuck Norris dies :p |
| 20:44.52 | AKX | Fair enough. |
| 20:44.54 | Provus | How do I turn off showing myself on Grid? |
| 20:45.02 | Provus | I've been looking, cannot find it |
| 20:45.10 | Pkekyo| | ok, I've allready got TUF, go buy tIM and we're set to go! |
| 20:45.48 | Pkekyo| | tIO, even |
| 20:45.53 | Kivin | holy paly in my AB named Healshappen. Cute. |
| 20:46.07 | Pkekyo| | hot shit! after 30min, the armory page has loaded 50%! |
| 20:46.17 | Kivin | :D |
| 20:46.32 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: how 'bout a mage named Barrymanalow and a lock named Benafflock? :p |
| 20:46.35 | ulic | Provus: I haven't looked for that option, but I don't recall seeing one. |
| 20:46.58 | ulic | Provus: You can't hide yourself in the default raid frames so it's probably not an option there either. |
| 20:47.25 | Provus | Well, that sucks. |
| 20:48.09 | Pkekyo| | I love it when people regem their tanking gear for DPS |
| 20:48.40 | Pkekyo| | 500 defense and 23% crit |
| 20:49.03 | ulic | we have a warrior that did that, his dps is so weak it makes me want to /slap him |
| 20:49.37 | ulic | oh he did respec too, but still |
| 20:49.54 | Pkekyo| | doesn't matter |
| 20:49.59 | Pkekyo| | that's a bloody gkick in my book |
| 20:50.27 | Codayus | Heh |
| 20:50.28 | Pkekyo| | some tosser that got wrynn dynasty greaves over me (I was MT with felsteel) has bloody gemmed it with SHITTY dps gems |
| 20:50.33 | ulic | we're all rl friends in my guild, and we all have dumb friends that we just have to put up with sometimes, and encourage corrections. |
| 20:50.41 | Codayus | Prot DPS - in fury gear - is actually fine these days. |
| 20:50.53 | Codayus | Fury DPS in prot gear makes baby jeebus cry. |
| 20:51.08 | Pkekyo| | oh hai Ellipsis |
| 20:51.19 | Pkekyo| | agreed Codayus |
| 20:52.12 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: halp cowtip dotn works |
| 20:52.41 | Codayus | Heh, our MT still hasn't seen Wrynn. He ran it weekly since launch for many many months. Since the 2.3 badge gear, he's been running it weekly for badges. |
| 20:52.47 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo| :( |
| 20:52.52 | Ellipsis | I really don't know what's up with that |
| 20:53.05 | Pkekyo| | it's really a stupid bug :< |
| 20:53.10 | Pkekyo| | extremely stupid |
| 20:53.17 | Codayus | He's finally picked up the badge tanking pants, but it's still the worst streak of drops I've ever seen. |
| 20:53.49 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: aye, I saw it once, went to a DPS specced offtank which respecced arms/fury and gemmed them with 4agi/8ap |
| 20:54.02 | Kivin | i dont' know why people make fun of ret. fury warrior is so much easier to pick on |
| 20:54.03 | Codayus | He's probably killed Curator...I dunno, 90% of the potential resets since launch; Wrynn dynasty haven't dropped. He doesn't even want them now, but still... oO |
| 20:54.11 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: try removing the hide(none) and see how things go for a while? |
| 20:54.24 | Ellipsis | at least then you'll know exactly what's happening |
| 20:54.27 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Wow, that'd make me want to cut myself. |
| 20:54.43 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: sadly, I didn't have a knife available at the time :p |
| 20:54.56 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: howso? fury warriors've proved their worth in raids time and time again |
| 20:55.08 | Kivin | Pkekyo|: pvp |
| 20:55.18 | Codayus | Meh, who cares about pvp? |
| 20:55.21 | Codayus | :-) |
| 20:55.34 | Pkekyo| | Kivin: in BGs it's actually still viable |
| 20:55.38 | Pkekyo| | - if you're good at it |
| 20:56.01 | Pkekyo| | pretty much worthless in arenas though |
| 20:56.02 | Amadeo | Damn, people are chatty today |
| 20:56.04 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: ALOT of people |
| 20:56.18 | Pkekyo| | Amadeo: no u |
| 20:58.28 | Provus | ..hmm. GridDynamicZoneSwitch does not appear to be showing up anywhere in the Grid options :( |
| 20:59.01 | Thrae | Provus: To answer your earlier question, handling clickcast frames is a good job for Clique |
| 20:59.11 | Provus | Clique? |
| 20:59.25 | Provus | Never heard of it |
| 20:59.58 | Thrae | Provus: www.wowinterface.com, it's made by cladhaire, a very prominent developer who's extremely dedicated to making optimized, good addons and is one of the core members of Ace3. |
| 21:00.09 | Provus | I've got Grid set up right now to show crowd control effects in the top left of the frame by icon |
| 21:00.59 | Provus | Hmm, so this works with Grid, interesting. |
| 21:01.04 | Provus | I can make right click Remove Curse. |
| 21:01.36 | Thrae | Provus: He also made PerfectRaid, which I use instead of Grid...I like his take on minimalism better. The little boxes and such for such-and-such a debuff never worked out for me. |
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| 21:01.55 | Provus | Does PerfectRaid have those options? |
| 21:02.03 | Provus | Because I'm not using these for raiding, lol |
| 21:02.13 | Provus | I needed good pvp arena party frames |
| 21:02.29 | Pkekyo| | perfectraid are just that, raid frames... |
| 21:02.34 | Thrae | Provus: Clickcast frames is built into the UI, all Clique does is iterate over the ClickCast table. So it's up to the UnitFrames to be compatible with the UI, not the other way around. |
| 21:02.48 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: I use them in-party too |
| 21:03.08 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: I'm working on an extension of PR for Target, Pets, and ToT |
| 21:03.25 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: I use pitbull with a perfectraid setup :p |
| 21:03.29 | Pkekyo| | slightly customized though |
| 21:03.39 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: That's a waste of resources right there ;) |
| 21:03.48 | Thrae | Just use the real thing! Heh. |
| 21:04.05 | Provus | Does anyone know what's up with Grid's Configuration? It seems kind of wonky to me, as in bugs. Plus DynamicZoneLayout is not coming up at all |
| 21:04.06 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: I would've used pitbull anyways....perfectraid doesn't provide the customizability I want |
| 21:04.14 | Pkekyo| | Provus: it's simply wonky |
| 21:04.16 | Pkekyo| | whatever that means |
| 21:04.38 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: What do you need out of your raid frames that PR doesn't provide? |
| 21:04.42 | Pkekyo| | PIECE OF FUCING SHIT DRAGON |
| 21:04.42 | Pkekyo| | I hate rivendark...bastard |
| 21:04.47 | Provus | Well like I said, DynamicZoneLayout isn't coming up |
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| 21:05.03 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: visual customizability...purtyness! |
| 21:05.04 | Provus | Not sure why. |
| 21:05.22 | Thrae | Pkekyo|: Oh, well I don't care about that, I care about the optimal display of information. So you're on your own there ;) |
| 21:05.35 | Provus | DynamicZoneSwitch rather. |
| 21:06.15 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: if I don't find it aesthetically pleasing, I simply won't use it |
| 21:06.38 | Pkekyo| | doing apexis emanations...brb :p |
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| 21:09.26 | Pkekyo| | back |
| 21:09.44 | Pkekyo| | Thrae: I just can't play with an UI that I hate looking at :p |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-8 | 03ckknight * r57975 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua: |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-8 | LibRockDB-1.0 - Fix a bug that caused switching profiles to not reset namespace profiles. |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-8 | - Fix a bug that caused an error to pop when copying profiles. |
| 21:12.46 | bigzero | ckknight, ping |
| 21:12.56 | ckknight | pong! |
| 21:13.28 | Pkekyo| | what_the_flying_fuck is the deal with rivendark?! bastard've killed me more times than any other mob |
| 21:13.45 | bigzero | hey, in Babble-Inventory there are translations for "Idol" and "Shield", but the string returned by GetItemInfo() is "Idols" and "Shields"...any comments? |
| 21:14.42 | ckknight | gnomes. |
| 21:14.50 | bigzero | that's what i thought |
| 21:14.54 | ckknight | and I never messed with Babble-Inventory |
| 21:15.14 | bigzero | doh...looked at Babble-class header |
| 21:15.27 | bigzero | but anyway, think that should be fixed? |
| 21:15.52 | bigzero | who's Daviesh? |
| 21:16.09 | bigzero | ~seen Daviesh |
| 21:16.11 | purl | bigzero: i haven't seen 'daviesh' |
| 21:17.44 | bigzero | ckknight, that's the idea though of Babble. to localize blizzard's api, right? |
| 21:18.21 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:18.29 | ckknight | I'm not sure if it should be fixed |
| 21:18.36 | bigzero | maybe I'll just add the new entries. not replace them. some addons probably use them |
| 21:18.37 | ckknight | my guess is that both should exist |
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| 21:21.57 | wereHamster | can someone please /dump BOOKTYPE_SPELL, BOOKTYPE_PET ? |
| 21:22.21 | durcyn | wereHamster: "spell", "pet" |
| 21:22.25 | Ellipsis | they're always spell and pet |
| 21:22.42 | bigzero | unless you're in a different locale? |
| 21:22.48 | Ellipsis | nope, not localized |
| 21:23.12 | bigzero | blizzard is weird |
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| 21:31.41 | Ozguli` | stupid macros |
| 21:31.52 | Ozguli` | can't make a proper deadly throw / throw one |
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| 21:34.22 | bigzero | what's wrong with the following commit note? "Babble-Inventory-2.2: - Added Idols, Librams, Totems, and Fishing Poles. Those are returned by GetItemInfo()" |
| 21:34.38 | ckknight | dot in front |
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| 21:36.35 | bigzero | ckknight, huh? what dot? |
| 21:36.42 | ckknight | . |
| 21:36.47 | ckknight | add it |
| 21:36.56 | bigzero | before Babble? |
| 21:38.00 | Stan_ | ILLIDAN DOWN!!! |
| 21:38.05 | Stan_ | *does the happy dance* |
| 21:38.06 | bigzero | grats |
| 21:38.10 | Stan_ | thx! |
| 21:38.21 | Elsia | grats |
| 21:38.24 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57976 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: .Babble-Inventory-2.2: - Added Idols, Librams, Totems, and Fishing Poles. Those are returned by GetItemInfo() |
| 21:38.44 | bigzero | ckknight, what kind of a hack is that? and why was that necessary |
| 21:38.45 | bigzero | ? |
| 21:39.01 | ckknight | cause the addon is Babble-2.2 and not Babble-Inventory-2.2 |
| 21:39.01 | [Ammo] | should have said: Babble-2.2: Babble-inv.... |
| 21:39.24 | bigzero | oh |
| 21:39.51 | Fisker- | so what it's checking to ensure that the author is commiting to the right folder? :P |
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| 21:43.43 | Kivin | wowhead is being awful flakey for me |
| 21:43.59 | bigzero | same |
| 21:44.12 | bigzero | though idk what you mean by flakey exactly |
| 21:45.29 | Kivin | timing out and taking really long time to load stuff |
| 21:45.31 | cladhaire | Provus: You can pretty much use Clique with any unit frame addon these days, including the default UI. I've yet to find one that doesn't support the "standard" for click-casting that we came up with during Alpha. |
| 21:45.46 | bigzero | Kivin, yeah, then same for me too |
| 21:45.55 | Provus | k |
| 21:47.09 | Pkekyo| | congrats Stan_, you lucky sod |
| 21:47.13 | Stan_ | :) |
| 21:47.19 | Stan_ | but he's buggy |
| 21:47.21 | Stan_ | no loot yet |
| 21:47.26 | Stan_ | ticket is open |
| 21:47.29 | Elsia | we are still on our second month of wiping at kael :( |
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| 21:48.27 | CrazyBenny | Elsia: you're not the only ones out there :p |
| 21:49.11 | Elsia | yeah... |
| 21:49.49 | Elsia | I'm still curious if my RG will survive this though, because we haven't even really started to handle who whole attunement nightmare that goes hand in hand with all this |
| 21:50.58 | Aos | looking for a couple ace addons that i can tear apart to learn about the gui widgets and attaching scripts, especially the scrollframe, any suggestions? |
| 21:51.13 | Aos | (the coins one on the website is 404) |
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| 21:52.16 | Elsia | I like GUI_Config.lua in Recount ok for that, has buttons, bars, toggles and scrollbars but I'm biased |
| 21:52.25 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 21:52.32 | Zhinjio | color code for legendary? Anyone have it handy? |
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| 21:53.18 | Kivin | Zhinjio: GetItemQualityColor(7) or something |
| 21:54.44 | Aos | thanks elsia, going to look now |
| 21:54.57 | bigzero | lua> string.format("Classes: %s","(.*)") |
| 21:54.57 | lua_bot | bigzero: Classes: (.*), |
| 21:55.25 | bigzero | lua> 1+1 |
| 21:55.25 | lua_bot | bigzero: 2 |
| 21:55.42 | bigzero | why is there a , at the end of the first one? |
| 21:56.17 | bigzero | lua> string.format("%s",1) |
| 21:56.18 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1, |
| 21:56.23 | bigzero | oh well |
| 21:56.44 | Elsia | lua> pairs(string.format("%s",1)) |
| 21:56.45 | lua_bot | Elsia: [string "pairs(string.format("%s",1))"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string) |
| 21:56.59 | Elsia | hmm theory refuted |
| 21:57.20 | Aos | elsia, know of something simpler? that has a ton of code in it |
| 21:57.49 | Elsia | what you want? scrollbars? there is a page on those on wowwiki that's pretty useful |
| 21:57.51 | Elsia | let me check |
| 21:58.24 | bigzero | lua> string.format("Classes: %s","([%w, ]*)") |
| 21:58.24 | lua_bot | bigzero: Classes: ([%w, ]*), |
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| 21:58.55 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r57977 10Cartographer_Sidelist/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:58.55 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 21:58.55 | CIA-8 | - workaround dewdrop's inability to use a portion of a texture for a |
| 21:58.55 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.55 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.56 | CIA-8 | - only show sidelist notes for notes actually visible on the map (if |
| 21:59.00 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.12 | bigzero | lua> string.len(string.format("%s",1)) |
| 21:59.12 | lua_bot | bigzero: 1, |
| 21:59.33 | Fin | "Error retrieving character list." |
| 21:59.34 | Fin | huh |
| 21:59.51 | Fin | that's a new one |
| 21:59.56 | Fin | another new one |
| 22:00.01 | Elsia | aos: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Scrollable_List_Using_FauxScrollFrameTemplate |
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| 22:00.12 | Fin | they should've called it World of Error Messages |
| 22:01.12 | Wogroipl_ | everyone seems to get that error in Europe |
| 22:01.18 | Wogroipl_ | on every realm |
| 22:01.18 | mort | [22:59:36] <Fin> "Error retrieving character list." <- same here :( |
| 22:01.29 | bigzero | hmm, what are the odds that chinese don't use , to separate words in a list.. |
| 22:01.35 | mort | i can log on other europe realms just fine |
| 22:01.43 | dodga | Illdari Council at 25%.. then the server goes *poof* No kill today :\ |
| 22:01.49 | Wogroipl_ | maybe one battlegroup then? |
| 22:01.58 | mort | probably |
| 22:02.02 | Wogroipl_ | I'm on Cyclone |
| 22:02.26 | Aos | elsia: much thanks that was perfect, how do you extract the default UI xml files? the quest and friends frames look like good examples too |
| 22:02.46 | Fin | fixed |
| 22:02.55 | Kivin | ~framexml |
| 22:02.56 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 22:03.49 | Aos | ty |
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| 22:08.13 | Fin | aaaaaaand fucked again |
| 22:08.39 | Orionshock | YAY! RockDB got fix'ed |
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| 22:11.04 | Stan_ | yesh |
| 22:12.02 | Pkekyo| | bloody fucking hell...windows won't let me set a folder as 'writable' >.< anyone know how to fix? |
| 22:13.19 | Aos | write click folder, general tab, attribute, uncheck read only? |
| 22:13.48 | Pkekyo| | I did...it looks as though it's writable, I press ok...right click the folder again, and it's been reset to read only |
| 22:13.56 | Aos | system folder? |
| 22:14.10 | blay | or some app hooked to it? |
| 22:14.14 | Pkekyo| | no, it just contains some savedgames |
| 22:14.30 | Pkekyo| | and I can't load them because that folder for some reason has been set as bloody read onl |
| 22:14.31 | Pkekyo| | y |
| 22:15.07 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar2 * r57978 10Prat/: Prat: Prat core which compiles under Ace2 or Rock. Modules are still only Ace2 |
| 22:15.15 | blay | Winblows - 1 Pkekyo - 0 |
| 22:15.22 | Aos | :) |
| 22:15.35 | Aos | reboot maybe, to unhook what is holding the folder |
| 22:16.07 | Pkekyo| | yeah, but wtf would be holding my crysis savedgames?! |
| 22:16.14 | Arrowmaster | folders cant be set to readonly |
| 22:16.17 | Orionshock | is there a common coloring scheme for modular addons as far as naming them goes? |
| 22:16.28 | sylvanaar | well, no |
| 22:16.31 | Arrowmaster | they always show readonly as a grayed box |
| 22:16.40 | sylvanaar | a few use that brown color |
| 22:16.48 | Pkekyo| | I dunno wtf it's in english, I used a localized version |
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| 22:17.08 | sylvanaar | i'd say use the brown color |
| 22:17.16 | sylvanaar | i wonder what I use |
| 22:17.48 | sylvanaar | i use the brown color also |
| 22:18.16 | buu | Hrm. Can anyone recommend a mod to automatically unshift me when I talk to a flightmaster? |
| 22:18.20 | sylvanaar | ## Title: Prat |r[|cffeda55fModules|r] |
| 22:18.35 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: any idea what it could be? |
| 22:18.36 | bigzero | buu, general auto-unshift no good? |
| 22:19.07 | bigzero | at least i thought that worked on flight-masters |
| 22:19.13 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/80189 |
| 22:19.16 | sylvanaar | automaton |
| 22:19.28 | sylvanaar | bigzero ^^ |
| 22:19.30 | Orionshock | ... i get these errors about every month... reloading the UI fixes it |
| 22:19.31 | buu | bigzero: Er, unless there's an option I'm missing someplace, doesn't seem to. |
| 22:21.00 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: is 'read only' and 'write protected' (is that even used in english) the same thing? |
| 22:21.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:21.23 | Pkekyo| | http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/69/drittbh1.jpg |
| 22:21.33 | Pkekyo| | 'skrivebeskyttet' = write protected |
| 22:22.19 | Pkekyo| | I uncheck that option, press 'use' and 'ok'....when I open the preferences(?) again, it's reset to write protected (screenie taken after unchecking write protected a gazillion times) |
| 22:22.31 | Arrowmaster | is it a folder? |
| 22:22.53 | Arrowmaster | raid just started and cant check image |
| 22:22.55 | Orionshock | urg... narg ain't here... |
| 22:23.06 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: it's a folder, aye |
| 22:23.25 | Arrowmaster | all folders have readonly as the grayish half checked box |
| 22:23.31 | Arrowmaster | because they cant be readonly |
| 22:23.39 | Arrowmaster | check premissions or something |
| 22:23.51 | Orionshock | -.- wtb an "OnClick" even for the GUI's Tree widget :( |
| 22:23.53 | Arrowmaster | program might not have write access |
| 22:24.10 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: what permissions? |
| 22:24.44 | Arrowmaster | you probably have simple file premissions enabled |
| 22:25.33 | Arrowmaster | since its enabled by default |
| 22:26.20 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57979 10Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Code changes for running under Rock. Left in Ace2 mode since there are no Rock versions of the modules atm. |
| 22:26.48 | sylvanaar | dammit |
| 22:27.04 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: disabled simple file permissions.... |
| 22:27.18 | Stan_ | sylvanaar: supposed to be in branches? :P |
| 22:27.26 | Fisker- | lolwut Pkekyo| |
| 22:27.27 | sylvanaar | oh well whatever |
| 22:27.32 | sylvanaar | it should still work |
| 22:27.39 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: ...? |
| 22:27.42 | Fisker- | you\re some kind of norwegian Pkekyo| |
| 22:27.44 | Fisker- | you're* |
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| 22:27.50 | Fisker- | madness |
| 22:27.52 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 22:28.24 | Pkekyo| | this is just too bloody fucking annoying |
| 22:28.55 | Pkekyo| | I wanted to play my game, not spend half my evening getting screwed over violently by windows |
| 22:29.10 | Gmork | hf |
| 22:29.39 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 22:30.09 | kergoth | wonder why performancefu completely lags my wow with addon usage monitoring enabled (trunk). every 1 second or so the whole game pauses, lag spike of some sort, can't move or anything when it happens. annoying as hell. glad i use optionhouse for the addon usage info |
| 22:30.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:30.41 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's always done that :/ |
| 22:30.57 | kergoth | weird |
| 22:31.02 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: disabled simple permissions, now what? |
| 22:31.13 | Ellipsis | I just disabled the addon usage tracking and used something else :/ |
| 22:31.19 | Arrowmaster | check folder permissions |
| 22:31.34 | Arrowmaster | does the user your running the program as have premission |
| 22:31.38 | Pkekyo| | all users've got all permissions |
| 22:32.11 | Pkekyo| | default user with root access ftw :p |
| 22:32.44 | Arrowmaster | no clue then |
| 22:32.54 | Cryect | kergoth: its due to checking CPU usage |
| 22:33.10 | Ellipsis | even when cpu profiling is off, it still lags |
| 22:33.10 | Cryect | Disable CPU profiling and it will work fine |
| 22:33.14 | Ellipsis | no |
| 22:33.17 | Pkekyo| | I feel like booting linux and just delete entire C:\ |
| 22:33.19 | Cryect | I've only had an issue with it on |
| 22:33.27 | Ellipsis | every 1sec you get a tiny lag spike |
| 22:33.30 | kergoth | well, other similar addons don't hang the entire game checking cpu usage :P |
| 22:33.31 | Ellipsis | more noticable on slow computers |
| 22:33.45 | Cryect | WEll its extremely noticable when profiling is on |
| 22:33.54 | Cryect | then its like 50ms spike |
| 22:34.26 | Ellipsis | I get a significant fps hiccup with CPU profiling disabled, but my comp is pretty slow |
| 22:34.36 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: got any windoze experience? |
| 22:35.13 | sylvanaar | where does optionhouse show performance stuff |
| 22:35.23 | Ellipsis | sure Pkekyo|, what's up? |
| 22:35.40 | Pkekyo| | got this folder that insists on staying write-protected |
| 22:35.50 | Ellipsis | where is the folder? |
| 22:36.11 | sylvanaar | kergoth the best one I have seen is expo, gives function level detail on memory and cpu |
| 22:36.28 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: My Documents |
| 22:36.50 | kergoth | sylvanaar: need the standalone OH to get the performance tab, the embedded one is just for the addon configuration bits |
| 22:37.27 | kergoth | its just basic numbers on each addon, not function level / namespacey bits, expo is definately the way to go for that |
| 22:37.58 | sylvanaar | kergoth oh cool. yeah - expo's only flaw is that it doesnt seem to be accurate for LoD addons |
| 22:38.28 | sylvanaar | so you gotta rework all your toc's while testing with it |
| 22:38.35 | kergoth | ah, that sucks |
| 22:38.39 | kergoth | sylvanaar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9014.jpg shows oh's perf tab |
| 22:39.04 | kergoth | simple, can search adn can sort by any column |
| 22:39.15 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: are you an admin on your user account? |
| 22:39.53 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: aye...got all permissions |
| 22:40.48 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 22:41.00 | Ellipsis | is the checkbox for read only grayed out, or the setting just isn't sticking? |
| 22:41.14 | Pkekyo| | http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/69/drittbh1.jpg |
| 22:41.19 | Pkekyo| | skrivebeskyttet = read only |
| 22:41.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.23 | Ellipsis | I can read norwegian :P |
| 22:41.30 | Pkekyo| | zomg you're my hero |
| 22:41.49 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 22:41.51 | Pkekyo| | it's checked...if I uncheck it and press 'apply' etc, then open preferences back up, it's reset to read only |
| 22:41.52 | sylvanaar | kergoth did you see the group totals in performancefu - optionhouse needs that feature |
| 22:42.03 | Arrowmaster | like i said, folders cant be readonly |
| 22:42.10 | kergoth | not yet, just checked out your branch to check it out :) |
| 22:42.47 | sylvanaar | its in the trunk version now |
| 22:43.07 | sylvanaar | just gotta enable it |
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| 22:44.17 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: well, somehow this one is! |
| 22:44.34 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57980 10coolDown/ (4 files in 2 dirs): coolDown: Because I'm feeling lucky, don't you, too? |
| 22:44.36 | Arrowmaster | check any other folder it will be a gray box too |
| 22:44.59 | Pkekyo| | there is no gray box... 'write protected' is checked, and click-able |
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| 22:45.41 | Pkekyo| | wtf, just checked, this crap applies to ALL folders in 'my documents' |
| 22:45.53 | bigzero | wereHamster, very informative notes.. |
| 22:46.23 | Arrowmaster | like i said, folders cant be readonly, that box is the same for every folder on your computer |
| 22:46.45 | Pkekyo| | WELL IT BLOODY IS READ ONLY |
| 22:46.50 | wereHamster | I guess we agreed that nobody reads those.. see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10704.msg169589#msg169589 |
| 22:47.26 | vhaarr | wereHamster: lots of people read them, please keep them informative |
| 22:47.46 | wereHamster | I made it my mission to never make useful commit messages ... oh well |
| 22:48.35 | bigzero | anyone know any bop items i could buy in org..need something not usable by mages |
| 22:49.07 | bigzero | i might have to resort to pvp stuff and waste my honor |
| 22:52.08 | vithos | you could go kill a boss in a low level instance |
| 22:52.44 | Daemona | yeah, just run into ragefire and kill a boss bigzero |
| 22:53.04 | Daemona | or equip the first green drop you find |
| 22:53.18 | Daemona | though thats soulbound, not bop |
| 22:53.56 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: what you need it for? |
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| 22:54.50 | bigzero | testing if AutoProfitX correctly determines unusable soulbound items |
| 22:54.59 | bigzero | need a bop item that I can't use |
| 22:55.19 | bigzero | only one such drop in rfc |
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| 22:55.34 | bigzero | i think i'll buy something boe and enchant it |
| 22:55.47 | bigzero | no damn...a ring enchant is too expensive |
| 22:56.30 | bigzero | farming rfc it is |
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| 23:00.18 | ramoz | wereHamster: just promise me you'll make the minimap icon hideable:p |
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| 23:01.35 | wereHamster | ramoz, it's on my todo list.. |
| 23:03.32 | Provus | Shadowed, are you around? Afflicted isn't showing Spell Lock |
| 23:03.40 | Shadowed | what rev |
| 23:03.57 | wereHamster | ramoz, here you go |
| 23:03.59 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57981 10IFrameManager/ (4 files in 2 dirs): IFrameManager: Get rid of the minimap icon. Use '/ifm start|stop' or '/ifm'. |
| 23:04.28 | Provus | let me check |
| 23:04.47 | Provus | 481 |
| 23:06.11 | Shadowed | update |
| 23:06.33 | Lukian | Are there any mass messaging addons? |
| 23:06.36 | Lukian | (for finding groups) |
| 23:06.42 | Lukian | ehehe ^_^ |
| 23:06.48 | Provus | ..odd. I downloaded the one from yesterday |
| 23:06.51 | Provus | How is mine so old |
| 23:07.11 | Provus | Is wowinterface not uploading the new addon? |
| 23:07.19 | Lukian | lol wowinterface |
| 23:07.30 | Lukian | even downloading from files.wowace.com you are still out of date :p |
| 23:08.00 | Provus | Uhm, Shadowed, I checked the revision by looking at the toc, the file I'm downloading from wowinterface that says 489 next to it is still 481 in the toc |
| 23:08.14 | Shadowed | update it anyway |
| 23:09.08 | Elsia | syl: love the new performancefu, but have a question: cartographer shows with 16.3 MB combined and the increase number is static at 16.0MiB even after garbage collecting, is that a bug? |
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| 23:09.24 | Shadowed | toc isn't 100% accurate |
| 23:10.35 | Provus | Okay, updated. It's still not showing spell lock |
| 23:10.37 | sylvanaar | Elisa not a bug - the increase includes all the modules - that part is a bit confusing |
| 23:10.48 | Provus | It is showing Blessing of Freedom. |
| 23:11.20 | sylvanaar | Elsia rather |
| 23:11.59 | sylvanaar | Elsia increase = increase of Carto core + total memory used by all modules |
| 23:12.48 | bigz | Elsia, did you ever find what was causing the lockups? |
| 23:13.00 | Elsia | not yet, had no time, was doing RL job things |
| 23:13.15 | Elsia | syl: ah, I see |
| 23:14.42 | Provus | Shadowed, it might be the S tab in entirety. There's no mage out in durotar however |
| 23:14.47 | Provus | So I can't test counterspell |
| 23:15.02 | Shadowed | counterspell doesn't work only imp |
| 23:15.10 | Provus | I'm aware. |
| 23:15.12 | Shadowed | what server are you on |
| 23:15.24 | Provus | Uh, what's that got to do with anything? |
| 23:15.29 | Shadowed | well |
| 23:15.32 | Shadowed | I can come and test it to find out why |
| 23:15.44 | bigzero | cs is like lvl 14 or so...then you have to get imp |
| 23:15.48 | bigzero | so that will take a while |
| 23:15.50 | Provus | What are you a GM or something? |
| 23:16.03 | Shadowed | ...you create a character on the server |
| 23:16.10 | Shadowed | and then i get you to run to one of the starting towns! |
| 23:16.15 | Shadowed | or you can wait and i'll look into it eventually |
| 23:16.25 | bigzero | imp cs = lvl25 |
| 23:16.31 | Provus | ..okay, Moonrunner. |
| 23:17.02 | Shadowed | all or horde? |
| 23:17.07 | Provus | horde. |
| 23:17.11 | Shadowed | actually |
| 23:17.12 | Shadowed | moment |
| 23:17.45 | Shadowed | go to |
| 23:17.54 | Shadowed | Afflicted/spells.lua |
| 23:18.01 | Provus | alright |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57982 10coolDown/coolDown.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | coolDown: So you want meaningful commit messagen? Here you go: |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.03 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.04 | Shadowed | look for [L["Spell Lock"]] = { and below it add |
| 23:18.05 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.08 | Shadowed | afflicted = true, |
| 23:18.12 | Shadowed | do a /rl and see if that fixes it |
| 23:18.39 | Shadowed | CS should work fine since it has the afflicted flag already\ |
| 23:19.09 | Provus | Fixed |
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| 23:20.26 | Shadowed | does feral charge work? |
| 23:20.28 | Shadowed | I'd imagine not |
| 23:20.35 | Provus | Is there any way to put an outline around the font? It can be hard to see sometimes. No idea, not a druid out h ere |
| 23:21.01 | Amadeo | Natur EnemyCastBar is no longer being developed :( |
| 23:21.11 | Shadowed | NECB hasn't been developed for a while |
| 23:21.35 | Amadeo | I mean officially though, he said he's done |
| 23:22.18 | Shadowed | I need to tweak some of the logic to make it a bit more exact |
| 23:22.26 | Shadowed | most of it should be fixed somepoint |
| 23:22.36 | Amadeo | I've been using it a while.. a bit hefty, but the DR is nice and I've had less glitches with it than a couple others I've used |
| 23:22.50 | bigzero | Provus, what deserted server do you play on? no mages, no druids.. |
| 23:22.58 | Provus | None out in Durotar. |
| 23:23.16 | Provus | Pretty much just me, a paladin, and a warlock right now. |
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| 23:26.42 | Sole | hmm |
| 23:27.09 | Sole | what would be the most efficient way to go about pulling a character's data from the armory within the browser? |
| 23:27.25 | bigzero | first: getting armory to work |
| 23:27.28 | Shadowed | yea |
| 23:27.30 | Shadowed | you're fucked on that |
| 23:27.38 | Sole | lol |
| 23:27.57 | Sole | funnily enough old character profiles work |
| 23:28.02 | potemkin | how long does it take for GetSpellCooldown(ability here) |
| 23:28.04 | potemkin | to update after |
| 23:28.07 | Sole | my friend quit like 2-3 months ago and his hunter is still viewable =\ |
| 23:28.09 | potemkin | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is fired |
| 23:28.30 | Sole | should be instant |
| 23:28.36 | potemkin | its not |
| 23:28.37 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r57983 10ActionCombat/ (4 files): |
| 23:28.37 | CIA-8 | ActionCombat: |
| 23:28.37 | CIA-8 | - Added "Pain Suppression" to the standard set of buffs |
| 23:28.37 | CIA-8 | - Added feature to specify user defined buff names |
| 23:28.39 | potemkin | on the wiki it says |
| 23:28.44 | potemkin | Values returned by this function are not updated immediately when UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED event is raised. |
| 23:28.44 | potemkin | Retrieved from "http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellCooldown" |
| 23:28.46 | Shadowed | SUCCEEDED is "We're sending it to the server, client says it was successful" |
| 23:28.49 | Shadowed | afaik |
| 23:29.09 | Sole | I thought SUCCEEDED was a successful response from the server |
| 23:29.22 | wereHamster | it there a list of properties that a frame inherits from its parent? |
| 23:29.23 | Shadowed | oh wait thats SENT |
| 23:30.01 | Sole | potemkin: just add like a 0.1 second wait before executing GetSpellCooldown(spell) |
| 23:30.20 | potemkin | k thx |
| 23:30.32 | Sole | what framework are you developing in? |
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| 23:31.22 | bigzero | anyone wanna volunteer to test AutoProfitX? could sell some of your epics :-)...though hopefully not |
| 23:31.36 | Sole | lol |
| 23:31.50 | Sole | I love the "hopefully" in there |
| 23:31.55 | ulic | at least you could buy them back if you noticed. |
| 23:32.25 | bigzero | lol, i've done that on my druid..accidentally switched up a true and false thing and it sold all my blues..they went off of the buyback page too, so I had to get GMs to restore |
| 23:33.31 | bigzero | actually, if you're smart, you'll notice that the value of the junk you're about to sell is like 100g+ |
| 23:33.38 | bigzero | i wasn't smart |
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| 23:36.06 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r57984 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Don't error when trying to get the colored name for a pet. |
| 23:36.11 | Birdemani | Is there any way to purge the database for Aloft or Prat via the UI? I noticed while hoping around realms last night that Totems from my home realm were labeled "pets" of people on another realm |
| 23:37.23 | Shadowed | stupid CIa |
| 23:37.24 | Shadowed | needs to work |
| 23:37.32 | Shadowed | Provus: latest svn should be working fine |
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| 23:38.26 | Shadowed | http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Afflicted/ |
| 23:39.52 | Amadeo | Some people have really sexy UIs, mine looks like junk! |
| 23:40.14 | Ellipsis | junk can be sexy |
| 23:40.24 | Sole | Shadowed: Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess thats a warlock dot timer, amirite? |
| 23:40.26 | Amadeo | if it's in the trunk? |
| 23:40.36 | Shadowed | nope |
| 23:40.39 | Shadowed | you're completely wrong |
| 23:40.47 | Shadowed | it's magictrack |
| 23:40.50 | Shadowed | but, actually usable |
| 23:40.54 | Sole | hmm |
| 23:40.57 | Amadeo | http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2608/wowscrnshot111807215111ji1.jpg |
| 23:40.59 | Amadeo | Is pretty sexy |
| 23:41.07 | Amadeo | I'd change the unit frame look though |
| 23:41.19 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57985 10coolDown/coolDown.lua: coolDown: fix a starnge frame-parenting problem. |
| 23:41.59 | Sole | um, where is it? |
| 23:42.30 | Ellipsis | sum Amadeo is a sucker for eye candy |
| 23:42.52 | Shadowed | same place all of my other mods are =p |
| 23:42.53 | Shadowed | wowinterface |
| 23:42.55 | Shadowed | .com |
| 23:42.57 | Sole | no no |
| 23:43.06 | Sole | oh nevermind |
| 23:43.11 | Sole | amadeo is just a stupidface |
| 23:43.16 | Aeyan | Oh noes! |
| 23:43.26 | Sole | I thought he gave me a link to a screenshot with Affliction running in it o_O |
| 23:44.04 | Amadeo | Those UIs are a fantasy for me, since if I ran them my computer would explode, then melt, then explode again |
| 23:44.18 | Aeyan | I used to like the look of mine |
| 23:44.27 | Aeyan | Got a widescreen monitor over the holidays though |
| 23:44.32 | Aeyan | Now it's too spread out |
| 23:45.00 | Sole | I dont like those UIs much anyway |
| 23:45.02 | Sole | too much junk |
| 23:45.08 | Sole | needs to be clear and simple |
| 23:45.09 | Amadeo | I heard junk can be sexy |
| 23:45.20 | Aeyan | Well, all my shiny comes from 8-9 eepanels |
| 23:45.23 | Aeyan | So, no biggie |
| 23:47.48 | CIA-8 | 03pericles * r57986 10InventoryOnPar/ (InventoryOnPar.lua InventoryOnParUI.lua): |
| 23:47.48 | CIA-8 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 23:47.48 | CIA-8 | - |
| 23:47.48 | CIA-8 | v8.11 - Fixed nil error in UI line 362 |
| 23:47.48 | Sole | aha! found it |
| 23:47.53 | Amadeo | In practice I'd probably end up hating it, but eye candy is always nice to look at and imagine that it's the best thing since sliced bread |
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| 23:48.32 | Aeyan | Mine always have to be pleasant to look at (for me) |
| 23:48.50 | Aeyan | Though I have to admit, I look back at some of my old ones and think "...wtf was I doing." |
| 23:48.52 | Ellipsis | usability > all imo |
| 23:49.07 | Ellipsis | if it looks nice, that's great, but I won't sacrifice a functional setup for a pretty one |
| 23:49.17 | Aeyan | See, I think looking nice is part of usability |
| 23:49.29 | Ellipsis | ideally the UI should be invisible |
| 23:49.30 | Amadeo | I think it all plays a part, but you can have too much either way |
| 23:49.35 | Ellipsis | if it's catching my eye, that's a bad thing |
| 23:49.46 | Aeyan | I'm not talking about graphics and such, just nice window designs and layouts |
| 23:49.53 | Amadeo | Too much functionality and it's confusing and/or cluttered, too much eye candy and it's...confusing and/or cluttered :P |
| 23:50.11 | Ellipsis | there's no such thing as too much functionality |
| 23:50.22 | Ellipsis | you mean too much useless crap :P |
| 23:50.29 | Aeyan | There is such at thing as too much information, hehe |
| 23:50.34 | Ellipsis | yes there is |
| 23:50.35 | Aeyan | The bar just differs from person to person |
| 23:50.40 | Ellipsis | that's not functional |
| 23:50.51 | Amadeo | It could be if you used it though! |
| 23:51.01 | Amadeo | So you end up keeping it...trying to train yourself to use it |
| 23:51.04 | Amadeo | But you never do! |
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| 23:51.11 | Ellipsis | l2dash in that case |
| 23:51.45 | Ellipsis | put the stuff you think you could use on your dash |
| 23:51.45 | Ellipsis | and then realize you never use it |
| 23:51.45 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 23:51.45 | Amadeo | That's like when I tried to use a HUD :P |
| 23:51.45 | Aeyan | I agree to that |
| 23:51.45 | Aeyan | Though I don't use dash |
| 23:51.45 | Amadeo | What's a dash? |
| 23:51.45 | Ellipsis | neither, but the same idea applies |
| 23:51.47 | Sole | "Leadership position within a MMO guild" is listed a PLUS for a game designer job at blizz |
| 23:51.50 | Ellipsis | put the info you find yourself not actually using in a less-accessible place |
| 23:51.55 | Aeyan | My biggest hangup is symmetry |
| 23:51.59 | Sole | I dont see how being a guild leader somehow makes you a better game designer |
| 23:52.05 | Ellipsis | if, as a rogue, the center of your screen is showing you what the warlocks' soulstone timers are at? you have a problem. |
| 23:52.16 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Oh, I do that as it is...didn't know it was coined dash :) |
| 23:52.35 | Ellipsis | dash is an addon designed to help with that |
| 23:52.35 | Aeyan | Like... I don't -need- eavesdrop on my UI but eavesdrop+minimap == my chat frames in size and appearance |
| 23:52.42 | Aeyan | So I use it |
| 23:52.55 | Amadeo | I get it now! |
| 23:53.00 | Ellipsis | yeah, symmetry is the thing that kills me when it comes to making my ideal UI |
| 23:53.13 | Antiarc | Is there a addon on WAU for roll tracking/sorting? |
| 23:53.15 | Amadeo | My lack of any artistic ability is what kills me :P |
| 23:53.21 | Ellipsis | I'm like, but...buffs can only be on one side of the screen |
| 23:53.29 | Aeyan | Hehe, yeah |
| 23:53.42 | Ellipsis | and my minimap can't be front and center, but...nothing else balances it |
| 23:54.01 | thul | symmetry is for simple souls. |
| 23:54.07 | thul | asymetric designs for geniuses.. :-) |
| 23:54.16 | Aeyan | Pfft, hardly |
| 23:54.22 | thul | not hardly.. :-) |
| 23:54.27 | thul | it is a hard fact.. ;-) |
| 23:54.48 | thul | seing "order" in symmetry is far easier and is easier to comprehend than asymetric "order" |
| 23:54.51 | Ellipsis | asymmetric designs are just easier to make |
| 23:54.55 | thul | which makes symmetric order more popular. |
| 23:54.57 | Ellipsis | so people like to think they're better ;) |
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| 23:55.03 | bigzero | Antiarc, groupfu does |
| 23:55.06 | thul | (not only in UIs, but generally) |
| 23:55.33 | bigzero | <Sole> "Leadership position within a MMO guild" is listed a PLUS for a game designer job at blizz <--- lf someone to sign guild charter...1g |
| 23:55.37 | Ellipsis | it's easier to do a properly designed symmetric layout than a properly designed asymmetric one |
| 23:55.50 | Sole | bigzero: kek |
| 23:55.58 | Antiarc | Sole: It shows that you have the ability to manage and organize groups of people |
| 23:56.07 | Antiarc | Which can be very important in the context of a development team |
| 23:56.24 | Sole | ok, but nowhere in that does it say your guild has to be good :P |
| 23:56.28 | bigzero | meh, idk..some guild leaders lack that ability |
| 23:56.47 | Sole | could be like a certain guild that was on my server back in the level 60 days .... "Raging Primates" |
| 23:56.50 | buu | So, about that whole autounshift thing. |
| 23:56.52 | Sole | guess what the raids were like |
| 23:57.00 | buu | Surely someone has one that works on flightmasters. |
| 23:57.08 | Antiarc | "ook ook, banana shock"? |
| 23:57.17 | Aeyan | Fear not, I will inspire you by charging blindly on |
| 23:57.35 | Ellipsis | buu: ToFu has an option for that |
| 23:57.38 | thul | cs-clan: RWG |
| 23:57.41 | thul | (retards with guns) |
| 23:57.47 | bigzero | buu, [16:19] <sylvanaar> automaton |
| 23:58.10 | bigzero | that may have been automation though |
| 23:58.28 | Ellipsis | no, it's automaton, and it does way more than that simple task |
| 23:58.41 | bigzero | ah, well, either way |
| 23:59.45 | buu | Ya know, I think the only reason I like wowace addons is because I get to use the rock config tool. |
