| 00:01.52 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03srigharts <srigharts@gmail.com> 07master * r449911aa9c 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Azuremyst_Isle.lua: User-submitted Azuremist tweaks |
| 00:01.52 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r4b7cfe56aa 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (01_12_Azuremyst_Isle.lua 12_20_Bloodmyst_Isle.lua Guides.xml): Cleanup of Azuremyst/Bloodmyst |
| 00:01.53 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03srigharts <srigharts@gmail.com> 07master * r5c619e4555 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (01_12_Azuremyst_Isle.lua 12_20_Bloodmyst_Isle.lua): More user-submitted Azuremist tweaks, Bloodmyst guide |
| 00:01.55 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r58b9878b41 10./: |
| 00:01.57 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Merge branch 'Azuremyst' |
| 00:01.59 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Conflicts: |
| 00:02.01 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Azuremyst_Isle.lua |
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| 00:07.51 | chiper | ... did they purge the armory this week? |
| 00:08.07 | chiper | my main isnt showing up |
| 00:09.02 | chiper | uh, hmm, it wont let me load my alt that I was on last night. armory must be borked |
| 00:09.13 | potemkin | if i want like 5 frames to share the same scale |
| 00:09.16 | potemkin | could i just do like |
| 00:09.26 | potemkin | frame = createframe |
| 00:09.28 | potemkin | then have |
| 00:09.38 | potemkin | frame.framea |
| 00:09.39 | potemkin | frame.frameb |
| 00:09.41 | potemkin | ..etc. |
| 00:09.50 | potemkin | and if i change the scale of frame wil it change framea and b? |
| 00:10.08 | Nargiddley | no |
| 00:11.27 | Nargiddley | framea etc being children of frame is what you're after |
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| 00:18.49 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:20.19 | Matrix110 | it can Oo |
| 00:20.24 | Matrix110 | atleast here |
| 00:20.29 | Trela | Rawr, hello. |
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| 00:30.57 | genetik- | does DoTimer still mess with Threat at all? |
| 00:31.08 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 00:31.11 | Antiarc | That was fixed, I believe |
| 00:31.15 | Trela | Wow, it did? |
| 00:31.26 | genetik- | k.. trying to figure out why our strider kiter keeps dropping to 0 threat |
| 00:31.38 | Antiarc | He shouldnt' be dropping to 0 |
| 00:31.50 | genetik- | happened with him on an alt karazhan run while he was on his warrior, too |
| 00:31.55 | Antiarc | But if you stop getting threat updates from him, he may be congested |
| 00:32.09 | genetik- | anyway that i can debug it during our raid tonight? |
| 00:32.22 | Antiarc | Get FuBar_AddonSpamFu |
| 00:32.29 | Antiarc | It shows you what net messages he's sending |
| 00:32.34 | genetik- | k |
| 00:32.40 | Antiarc | If he's got an addon that's doing a lot of traffic, that's your culprit |
| 00:33.49 | genetik- | i'm going to have him get ready to switch to dotdotdot or something halfway through the raid if it starts to happen just in case |
| 00:34.36 | Kemayo | It could also be other people using addons like Recount that send out a lot of traffic by default, no? |
| 00:35.15 | genetik- | is synching enabled on recount now? i remember it not working a while back |
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| 00:37.29 | wereHamster | svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/0e22dce4-19f7-48f2-a5fb-901d331eb261': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com)? what's wrong? |
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| 00:39.10 | CIA-8 | 03diablohu * r57896 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 00:39.10 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:39.10 | CIA-8 | - zhCN update |
| 00:40.04 | Kivin | If I want a 100% opaque, plain, single-color frame backdrop, can I set bgFile="" then SetBackdropColor? |
| 00:42.39 | wereHamster | is there a svn account admin page? or do I have to contact the admins? |
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| 00:50.23 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: you cant upload to svn.wowace.com |
| 00:50.46 | wereHamster | dev.wowace ? |
| 00:51.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:51.27 | Trae | what's a good bag mod that's in wowace? |
| 00:51.48 | SunTsu | Trae: baggins |
| 00:51.51 | CIA-8 | 03werehamster * r57897 10IFrameManager/ (5 files in 2 dirs): IFrameManager: Make a bunch of functions static. |
| 00:51.54 | wereHamster | huh, that works :) |
| 00:51.56 | SunTsu | And nearly any other ;) |
| 00:52.27 | wereHamster | oops, static is soo C, it should be 'local' :) |
| 00:52.43 | Trae | SunTsu, tx ;) |
| 00:53.09 | Fisker- | is there a spam filter thingy for the addon channel? |
| 00:53.19 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster, thanks, my first commit in a year or so :) |
| 00:53.35 | Kivin | Fisker-: what kind of spam? |
| 00:53.50 | Fisker- | i.e throttling |
| 00:53.56 | Kivin | yeah... ummmmmmmm |
| 00:54.01 | Kivin | ChatThrottleLib or something? |
| 00:54.03 | Kivin | it's on wowwiki |
| 00:54.17 | Kivin | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib |
| 00:54.33 | Kivin | ace3 uses it, so it must be relatively reliable |
| 00:54.39 | thul | after playing warrior, paladin and rogue the last months, I miss evisc/HoW/Execute on my shaman :-P |
| 00:54.39 | Arrowmaster | ace2 uses it |
| 00:54.46 | Fisker- | someone is having issues with omen |
| 00:54.49 | Kivin | That doesn't say much :p |
| 00:54.51 | Fisker- | his threat stops updating |
| 00:55.07 | Kivin | Ace2 has a lot of "quirks" that are considered too expensive to bother fixing |
| 00:55.54 | thul | too expensive? |
| 00:56.01 | Fisker- | you has any idea Antiarc ? |
| 00:56.33 | Kivin | thul: Expensive in time or effort |
| 00:56.44 | thul | ah, k |
| 00:56.48 | Kivin | time == money |
| 00:56.59 | thul | time is far more important than money :-P |
| 00:57.07 | Kivin | lol |
| 00:57.14 | Industrial | where does the alliance cat quest start |
| 00:57.20 | Industrial | cant find it on wowhead |
| 00:57.22 | Industrial | :( |
| 00:57.26 | Industrial | just dinged 20 on a druid |
| 00:57.55 | thul | http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_quests#Cat_Form ? :-P |
| 00:58.27 | Nargiddley | its trainable |
| 00:58.30 | Nargiddley | no quest |
| 00:58.42 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?quests=4.-263 |
| 00:58.47 | Industrial | wuuut |
| 00:58.52 | wereHamster | how do I enable the error log? |
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| 01:06.35 | bigzero | Xinhuan, ping |
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| 01:09.58 | Silowyi | you know |
| 01:10.13 | Silowyi | I'm tempted to make an addon to automatically turn off your title until Blizzard fixes the damn bug |
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| 01:10.24 | Silowyi | but I don't know how to do it |
| 01:10.52 | krag0th|Mac | Aww, what happened to the website :( |
| 01:11.12 | Silowyi | hmm SetCurrentTitle |
| 01:12.19 | Silowyi | anyone have the link to the framexml? |
| 01:12.28 | Silowyi | that online website where you can browse it |
| 01:13.13 | [dRaCo] | ~framexml |
| 01:13.14 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 01:13.31 | [dRaCo] | purl: botsnack |
| 01:13.31 | purl | aw, gee, [dRaCo] |
| 01:15.06 | Silowyi | thanks |
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| 01:23.53 | thul | 220/680k xp left to 65 :-P yehaw |
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| 01:37.57 | wereHamster | is there a solid texture in WoW? I need it for a backdrop.. |
| 01:38.01 | Pkekyo| | DINGALINGDINGDINGDINGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG |
| 01:38.19 | Pkekyo| | my mage just hit lvl 58, I'm going to outland! :D |
| 01:39.33 | Ripdog | wereHamster, by default eePanels creates panels that are untextured, just make the opacity 100% and they are solid black |
| 01:40.29 | wereHamster | I want something that is in the standart wow files.. like Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Border |
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| 01:55.55 | wereHamster | is there a function to find out whether the cursor is over a particular frame? |
| 02:00.14 | [dRaCo] | guess you could hack up something with getFrameName() or something |
| 02:00.58 | Pernicius | there was one .. but dont know the name yet |
| 02:03.40 | CIA-8 | 03kaybe * r57898 10Klappa/ (Klappa.lua Klappa.toc KlappaMainButton.lua Localization.lua): |
| 02:03.40 | CIA-8 | Klappa: |
| 02:03.40 | CIA-8 | -updated .toc |
| 02:03.40 | CIA-8 | -ordering mainbuttons in config menu |
| 02:03.40 | CIA-8 | -added option to show extra window with all buttons an their id |
| 02:03.40 | Nargiddley | GetMouseFocus() |
| 02:04.19 | wereHamster | thanks |
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| 02:15.10 | Keias | Pkekyo|, how much HP did your mage have at 58? |
| 02:15.27 | Keias | Cause I recently rolled one and I only had like 2300 when I hit outlands :( |
| 02:16.30 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Any progress on the pet issues? Some raid pets last night was given thousands of threat. |
| 02:20.22 | Pkekyo| | Keias: my mage has 2118hp at lvl 58....glass cannon ftw :p |
| 02:20.35 | Keias | lol |
| 02:20.39 | Keias | Makes me feel better then :P |
| 02:22.14 | Pkekyo| | but then again, I'm wearing the gear I got in SM :p |
| 02:22.18 | Keias | Yeah same |
| 02:22.24 | Keias | well not now |
| 02:22.36 | Ellipsis` | silly mages, stam is for warlocks |
| 02:22.37 | Keias | I gained like an extra 1000 HP at 60 |
| 02:22.40 | Ellipsis` | ^-^ |
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| 02:31.51 | Pkekyo| | meh, I hate ordering from webshops that doesn't give you a package ID :< |
| 02:31.54 | Fin | Tekkub: are there Tour Guides for horde past level 70 yet? |
| 02:32.07 | Tekkub | yes in staged |
| 02:35.39 | Fin | by staged do you mean, being tested? |
| 02:36.29 | Fin | Tekkub: just pinging you in case you didn't see my question (apologies if you have :) |
| 02:37.16 | Fin | just wondering if you needed help with testing the guides |
| 02:37.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh man, the office is such a great show |
| 02:37.49 | Fin | isn't it? the US version is brilliant, they did a great job on making it |
| 02:37.55 | Fin | have to say I wasn't expecting that |
| 02:38.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: indeed. |
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| 02:38.18 | Fin | other series that went from the UK -> US haven't been so er, well less shit really |
| 02:38.21 | Fin | hello Seerah! |
| 02:38.31 | Seerah | Fin! |
| 02:39.26 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: what I just said didn't make much sense, but I think you know what I mean :) |
| 02:39.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: yeah, i got it :) |
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| 02:40.02 | Fin | are you watching the US or UK version of The Office? |
| 02:40.05 | NightHawkTheSane | US |
| 02:40.13 | Fin | has season 4 ended yet? |
| 02:40.16 | lasseb | there is two versions? |
| 02:40.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Don't think so, think the writer's strike has kinda put that on hold :P |
| 02:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm only finishing up s3 now, though |
| 02:40.41 | Fin | lasseb: yes, the UK version is the original and only very slightly better :) |
| 02:40.43 | Seerah | You know what UK show I miss? Are you being served |
| 02:40.44 | Fin | aha |
| 02:41.00 | Fin | yeah, man, that writer's guild has properly fucked up TV |
| 02:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it has. |
| 02:41.20 | Fin | Internet pirates everywhere are seriously annoyed! |
| 02:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | but, i really can't complain. i'm all in favor of the writers, so :) |
| 02:41.30 | Fin | Seerah: The Office |
| 02:41.40 | Fin | they get a crappy deal |
| 02:41.44 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57899 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: Implement most of the requested code cleanups. No more special cases for Auctioneer and Babble, remove an extra field in the addon table. Still using modulecount, but only for things with modules. |
| 02:41.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:42.13 | Seerah | Fin: I watch the US version. But I always enjoyed watching that old "Are You Being Served" show :) |
| 02:42.47 | Fin | ooh hey, sylvanaar, if you're in the Fubar_PerformanceFu code, maybe get it linked with ACP so you can order the list of addons by memory / resource usage there? :) heh |
| 02:42.58 | Fin | Seerah: that show is ancient! :) |
| 02:43.21 | Seerah | Fin: ancient, but funny ;) |
| 02:43.38 | Antiarc | http://pics.livejournal.com/allthingsaaron/pic/000af8x7 - dot. dot. freaking dot. |
| 02:44.53 | sylvanaar | Fin: yeah, thats not a bad idea, though i dont want to overcomplicate acp |
| 02:45.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: '...' indeed. |
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| 02:49.41 | aestil | why does WAU take soooo long to d/l the index of addons? i have an 8mbit connection to the intarweb, and regularly d/l at 1MB a second. |
| 02:51.01 | [SW]Dodg1 | aestil: same problem but with 1,8mb/s @ 16mbit ;D |
| 02:51.06 | chiper | any arkinventory users? |
| 02:51.12 | Killmore | RP alert |
| 02:51.29 | chiper | cant figure out how to hide empty slots from the guildbank |
| 02:51.34 | aestil | 1.8MB a second with a 16mbit connect is good. |
| 02:51.41 | aestil | 1MB d/l at 8mbit is good. |
| 02:51.49 | aestil | 180kb with 8mbit is bad. |
| 02:51.58 | Seerah | chiper: whatcha need? |
| 02:53.00 | Seerah | assign empty slots to their own bar and hide that bar |
| 02:53.19 | chiper | ok, how do you hide a bar? |
| 02:53.26 | chiper | (that thought had occured to me) |
| 02:53.39 | Seerah | I don't recall off the top of my head - I'm not in game atm |
| 02:54.31 | bigzero | !c en spirestone tucker |
| 02:54.39 | bigzero | !c us spirestone tucker |
| 02:54.41 | ThraeBot | bigzero: Tucker, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/47/14). 9612 HP; 4580 Mana; 124 mana regen; 4383 Armour; 101.100 Melee DPS; 10.30% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 128 defense; 22.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 552 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23u2n9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jcn3a ][ Updated: Fri Jan 4 22:00:02 2008 EST ]] |
| 02:55.40 | bigzero | it should display other stats as well...even though i'm feral |
| 02:58.20 | [SW]Dodge | !c eu sen'jin netrox |
| 02:58.37 | [SW]Dodge | mhm |
| 02:59.20 | ThraeBot | [SW]Dodge: Netrox, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 10914 HP; 7730 Mana; 137 mana regen; 5678 Armour; 3047 AP; 299.700 Melee DPS; 36.33% melee crit; 110 melee hit; 10 +spell dmg; 29 +heal; 42.37% dodge; 85 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1479 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22jqcw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cybke ][ Updated: Thu Jan 3 00:10:39 2008 EST ]] |
| 02:59.27 | [SW]Dodge | ahhh :) |
| 03:02.20 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57900 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (PerformanceFu.lua locales/PerformanceFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu: Additional code cleanup to isolate the grouping/totaling code. Verbage change on menu. Set default off for showing totals. |
| 03:02.32 | [SW]Dodge | why it shows 3047ap O.o |
| 03:02.56 | [SW]Dodge | ah lol ic jan 3 updated |
| 03:03.22 | Pkekyo| | 3k AP?! |
| 03:03.26 | Pkekyo| | I hate you :< |
| 03:03.48 | Seerah | I'll take 3k spell dmg thank you |
| 03:05.03 | [SW]Dodge | 4600ap 42,80%crit wednesdey in cara :) |
| 03:05.05 | [SW]Dodge | kara* |
| 03:05.11 | [SW]Dodge | in catform |
| 03:05.14 | Fin | Seerah: are you still too tired to put a full list of addons up on your Suitcase homepage? :) |
| 03:05.15 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hat eyou |
| 03:06.08 | bigzero | do armory stats change if you're shapeshifted? |
| 03:06.14 | [SW]Dodge | why do you hate me Pkekyo| ??? :( *cry* |
| 03:06.25 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge4600ap 42,80%crit wednesdey in cara |
| 03:06.26 | Pkekyo| | that's why |
| 03:06.49 | [SW]Dodge | ._. |
| 03:07.01 | Fin | jealousy is such an ugly emotion |
| 03:07.34 | Pkekyo| | you're just jealous of my jealousy! GO AWAI |
| 03:07.49 | [SW]Dodge | i think you would hate me more if i tell you that i was not fullbuffed (no flask/elix) no shaman with totems |
| 03:08.01 | Seerah | Fin: there is a complete list in the *extensive* read me I've spent countless hours on :) |
| 03:08.15 | Fin | Seerah: but you have to download the suitcase to see it! |
| 03:08.20 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit [SW]Dodge |
| 03:08.21 | purl | ACTION crits [SW]Dodge with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. [SW]Dodge dies |
| 03:08.21 | Seerah | :P |
| 03:08.29 | Seerah | what? it's not good enough for you? ;) |
| 03:08.33 | Fin | maybe just put a link from the WoWI page to the readme, if it's online? |
| 03:08.37 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 03:08.41 | Seerah | no, it's included |
| 03:08.50 | Fin | well, it's a bit of a bastard to have to download an unzip the list just to find out if you want to download it or not |
| 03:08.55 | Seerah | lol |
| 03:09.01 | Fin | :) |
| 03:09.03 | bigzero | wtb "lf mage for ZA".... that would be a sight to see |
| 03:09.04 | Seerah | I suppose I could do a nifty cut/paste ;) |
| 03:09.09 | Fin | yeah |
| 03:09.10 | Fin | or, hey |
| 03:09.11 | Seerah | hold that thought for a min, fin |
| 03:09.14 | Seerah | ? |
| 03:09.21 | Fin | if it's on the SVN repository, just link to that |
| 03:09.35 | Fin | it's probably not though, right, cos it's a collection |
| 03:09.37 | Seerah | no, it's on wowi comps don't go on wowace :P |
| 03:09.38 | [SW]Dodge | bigzero: today we was spamming "lf mage za" in trade chan but no mage wants ;x |
| 03:09.39 | Fin | anyway, holding |
| 03:09.40 | Pkekyo| | bigzerowtb "lf mage for ZA".... that would be a sight to see <------ I got a "LF Tank ZA" earlier today :p |
| 03:10.10 | [SW]Dodge | za sux :D |
| 03:10.26 | Pkekyo| | shut up you overgeared dongjob |
| 03:10.32 | [SW]Dodge | loool |
| 03:10.47 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: show me your char plx :D |
| 03:10.57 | Hjalte | I hate pvp servers. I got ganked twice by the same hunter when doing the skettis escort quest, then i finally find the escort guy alone and the server restarts at the moment that he walks down the last step of the stair - usually the quest completes seconds later >.< |
| 03:11.02 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 03:11.35 | Pkekyo| | doesn't work, [SW]Dodge |
| 03:11.52 | [SW]Dodge | it takes a moment :) |
| 03:12.35 | Seerah | Fin: http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?&id=275&pageid=148 |
| 03:13.13 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: that's one bloody long moment |
| 03:13.41 | [SW]Dodge | ok... :X |
| 03:13.57 | Pkekyo| | did ThraeBot die or something? |
| 03:14.03 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 03:14.05 | Seerah | Fin: and I linked to it on the download page |
| 03:14.05 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo|: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (33/25/3). 12415 HP; 9729 Armour; 1588 AP; 243.600 Melee DPS; 29.29% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 10 +spell dmg/heal; 5.89% dodge; 5.00% block; 240 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1068 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Fri Jan 4 22:19:26 2008 EST ]] |
| 03:14.27 | Pkekyo| | hm, looks like pvp gear |
| 03:14.59 | Fin | Seerah: awesome, thanks :) |
| 03:15.01 | [SW]Dodge | 3/5 arena |
| 03:15.13 | [SW]Dodge | lol :D |
| 03:15.23 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: hms? |
| 03:15.35 | Seerah | Fin: np :) |
| 03:15.38 | [SW]Dodge | arg... balance/feral hybrid O.o |
| 03:15.47 | Pkekyo| | no, I'm arms fury :p |
| 03:16.10 | [SW]Dodge | a lol XD |
| 03:16.19 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: not that funny really...I was the maintank of my guild for ages, been pvping for only a few weeks |
| 03:16.40 | [SW]Dodge | i thougt your a druid too :X |
| 03:16.45 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 03:16.57 | [SW]Dodge | didnt watcht your class ;D |
| 03:17.02 | Pkekyo| | who the flying fuck would play a balance/feral hybrid?! |
| 03:17.10 | bigzero | i was gonna ask Pkekyo| what drugs he's on |
| 03:17.21 | [SW]Dodge | 33/25/3 is a VERY BAD druid skill D; |
| 03:17.39 | Fin | Seerah: I'm blind, sorry - where is it linked from the download page? |
| 03:17.42 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: what drugs I'm on? |
| 03:17.45 | bigzero | hmmm, maybe it's actually realy realy good..just seems very bad |
| 03:17.51 | Seerah | Fin: I linked it up top :) |
| 03:17.55 | bigzero | Pkekyo| for speccing feral/balance |
| 03:17.57 | Seerah | I mean scroll up in irc |
| 03:18.08 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: I'm a bloody warrior! :p |
| 03:18.19 | bigzero | Pkekyo| hence the "gonna" |
| 03:18.25 | Seerah | Fin: and it's linked right after the "highlights" list of mods |
| 03:18.31 | Seerah | on the download page |
| 03:18.41 | Fin | aha! it's the "my portal" text |
| 03:18.54 | Seerah | yay! |
| 03:19.17 | Fin | the other "my portal" links went to the index. ta. hey, you can remove the note about "see the included changelog for a full list of addons" now :) |
| 03:19.21 | [SW]Dodge | bigzero: how much armor do you have as bear? :D |
| 03:19.24 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: how'd you manage to check my gear without noticing I'm not a druid? :p |
| 03:19.29 | Fin | spiffy |
| 03:19.52 | [SW]Dodge | didnt really checkt you gear ^^ |
| 03:20.04 | [SW]Dodge | just stats :D |
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| 03:20.14 | Seerah | Fin: thanks - I forget what all it says on there >< |
| 03:20.45 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: how'd you conclude tha tI had 3/5 gladiator then? :p |
| 03:21.04 | Seerah | Fin: the portal link goes to the portal index page? :( I'll have to link it differently then |
| 03:21.04 | [SW]Dodge | mouseover glove and see "gladiator" and 3/5 :D |
| 03:21.11 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 03:21.25 | Pkekyo| | quite the observer, aren't you? |
| 03:21.29 | [SW]Dodge | an that you have 1s3 and 2s3 if i'm not wrong :D |
| 03:21.33 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 03:21.38 | [SW]Dodge | <3 armory |
| 03:21.59 | Fin | Seerah: no, the other links - don't they? |
| 03:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, the power of being even remotely observant |
| 03:22.20 | Seerah | Fin: or do you mean my main portal page? |
| 03:22.23 | Hjalte | ARGHHHHH. I log on again, I find the escort guy and who greets me? The hunter, I get the worst lag and I die without fighting... |
| 03:22.27 | [SW]Dodge | if i search for a group i "spy" the peoples in the armory before i invite them XD |
| 03:22.32 | Fin | Seerah: yes, I meant, your portal's index, sorry |
| 03:22.41 | Seerah | fin: okies, thanks :D |
| 03:23.20 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: I have 1x s3, 1x s2 and 1x s1:p |
| 03:23.26 | Pkekyo| | you're severely wrong |
| 03:23.35 | [SW]Dodge | xd |
| 03:23.38 | [SW]Dodge | who cares? |
| 03:23.40 | [SW]Dodge | :P |
| 03:24.06 | Pkekyo| | <--- |
| 03:24.17 | [SW]Dodge | since i dont want to invite a balance/feral hybrid warri :D |
| 03:24.49 | Pkekyo| | lmao |
| 03:24.54 | Pkekyo| | I'M RESTO GODDAMNIT |
| 03:25.01 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 03:25.17 | Pkekyo| | standard reply to anyone looking for a tank... "sorry, I'm resto" |
| 03:25.22 | Seerah | Fin: worded that differently to say "if you want to see the addons before downloading" ;) |
| 03:25.53 | [SW]Dodge | lool :D |
| 03:25.58 | [SW]Dodge | but not as warri :P |
| 03:26.07 | Pkekyo| | didn't know 45 was 50% of 87 O.o |
| 03:26.17 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: that's the standard reply I use on my warrior |
| 03:26.20 | Fin | Seerah: ah, yeah, good idea |
| 03:26.22 | Pkekyo| | (my druid's only lvl 11) |
| 03:26.36 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 03:26.56 | Pkekyo| | shuts people up in quite a hurry |
| 03:27.29 | Pkekyo| | either they don't understand wtf is going on, and shut up to ponder about it for 30min or so....or the more intelligent of them realize I'm not interested |
| 03:27.46 | [SW]Dodge | wtf |
| 03:27.53 | [SW]Dodge | your ead |
| 03:27.55 | [SW]Dodge | head* |
| 03:28.02 | Pkekyo| | ...? |
| 03:28.15 | [SW]Dodge | where you got it? |
| 03:28.24 | Pkekyo| | the headless horseman helmet? |
| 03:28.41 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 03:29.14 | Pkekyo| | SM GY |
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| 03:29.22 | [SW]Dodge | the armory says it is from scarlet monstnary (or what ever) |
| 03:29.24 | [SW]Dodge | wusa? |
| 03:29.31 | [SW]Dodge | a lvl 70 epic? |
| 03:29.43 | Seerah | it's from the Headless Horseman |
| 03:29.48 | Pkekyo| | what rock were you residing under 'round halloween times? |
| 03:30.03 | [SW]Dodge | not playing :D |
| 03:30.13 | Pkekyo| | you're a bad person |
| 03:30.23 | [SW]Dodge | yea i know :( |
| 03:30.35 | [SW]Dodge | but it doesnt care me :D |
| 03:30.43 | [SW]Dodge | i like it :)) |
| 03:30.50 | Seerah | [SW]Dodge: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/hallowsend/ |
| 03:32.27 | [SW]Dodge | ah... |
| 03:32.30 | [SW]Dodge | damn :D |
| 03:33.10 | Pkekyo| | nublet |
| 03:33.18 | [SW]Dodge | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.28 | Pkekyo| | that's it, I'm taking a huge honkin' dump |
| 03:33.37 | Pkekyo| | brb2hrskthxbaii |
| 03:33.46 | [SW]Dodge | lol bb :D |
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| 03:36.13 | Pkekyo| | back |
| 03:36.21 | Pkekyo| | decided to just get some food instead |
| 03:36.23 | Pkekyo| | it's simpler |
| 03:36.25 | [SW]Dodge | mhm 2hrs? |
| 03:36.34 | [SW]Dodge | lol :> |
| 03:37.11 | Pkekyo| | I've had to start buying alot more DVDs |
| 03:37.18 | NightHawkTheSane | huh. I have 4 ethereum prison keys. o_0 |
| 03:37.27 | Pkekyo| | so I can delete some AVIs and get some proper harddrive space :p |
| 03:37.33 | Pkekyo| | - for my photos |
| 03:37.42 | [SW]Dodge | 11 :) |
| 03:37.53 | [SW]Dodge | xP |
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| 03:38.43 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57901 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (PerformanceFu.lua locales/PerformanceFuLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 03:38.43 | CIA-8 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: Modification to group multipart addons. Will show eg. |
| 03:38.43 | CIA-8 | Cartographer(20) - then the memory & cpu used by the core and all its parts. |
| 03:38.43 | CIA-8 | Will still show the individual modules in the list, but the main/core addon will |
| 03:38.43 | CIA-8 | show total usage of the core + the other modules/parts instead of just the core |
| 03:38.45 | CIA-8 | memory use. If no main/core addon exists, a dummy entry will be placed in the |
| 03:38.47 | CIA-8 | list eg. Babble. |
| 03:39.56 | sylvanaar | finally finished testing. I had totally forgotten about the cpu usage numbers |
| 03:41.54 | [SW]Dodge | wääääh cant find where i can set the chatfont -.- |
| 03:42.15 | [SW]Dodge | (in prat xd) |
| 03:42.27 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: neat change to perffu |
| 03:42.41 | Aeyan | Don't suppose anyone knows any better place to farm primal mana than Kirin'var, huh? |
| 03:43.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Aeyan: farm gold elsewhere, then buy them off the ah :P |
| 03:43.26 | Aeyan | Bleh |
| 03:43.35 | Aeyan | I'm poor |
| 03:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | do dailies |
| 03:44.02 | Aeyan | Yeah, yeah... |
| 03:44.04 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane thanks |
| 03:44.18 | sylvanaar | [SW]Dodge the Font module |
| 03:44.30 | Seerah | Aeyan: if I could remember where Kirin'var was, I'd tell ya ;) |
| 03:44.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: netherstorm, southeast |
| 03:44.46 | Seerah | is that the island town? |
| 03:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | with all the anti-caster mobs |
| 03:44.49 | Aeyan | Yeah, the mage village in Netherstorm |
| 03:44.51 | Seerah | I hate that place |
| 03:44.53 | NightHawkTheSane | with the violet tower |
| 03:44.56 | Aeyan | as do I |
| 03:45.05 | Seerah | I usually just farm around Area 52 |
| 03:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i like it >.> |
| 03:45.20 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar: i cant find a font module ~.~ just for fontsize |
| 03:45.30 | [SW]Dodge | ah lol |
| 03:45.31 | [SW]Dodge | .X |
| 03:45.42 | [SW]Dodge | didnt saw teh "set font face" -.- |
| 03:46.02 | Seerah | [SW]Dodge: that module *used* to be called the Font Size module, but it's now called the Font module - do you have the most recent version? (unless I'm going crazy, that is) |
| 03:46.15 | sylvanaar | yeah, its just called Font now |
| 03:46.43 | [SW]Dodge | i update all ace addons daily using wau |
| 03:46.52 | Estil | ret pallys make me cry for them |
| 03:46.58 | [SW]Dodge | maybe its not translated in the deDE localization^^ |
| 03:47.35 | [SW]Dodge | here is called "Schriftgröße" (font size) not "schriftart" (font) |
| 03:47.42 | Pkekyo| | anyone know a good, lightweight program for viewing raw photos? |
| 03:47.43 | sylvanaar | perhaps |
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| 03:49.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet google knows |
| 03:50.16 | Pkekyo| | I bet that screw you nighthawk |
| 03:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 03:50.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure you'd like that |
| 03:50.41 | sylvanaar | it seems like zips are created faster than 10 min now - at least the last few times I have updated something the zip was built within a few seconds |
| 03:51.28 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was every 20 minutes |
| 03:51.34 | sylvanaar | whatever it is |
| 03:52.06 | Arrowmaster | your last commit was at like 39 after leaving 1 minute till the zip if its still every 20 minutes |
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| 03:55.19 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to change the font fubar is using? |
| 03:55.30 | Pkekyo| | I'd say yes |
| 03:56.34 | [SW]Dodge | i'd say no or i'm again blind ._. |
| 03:56.36 | Seerah | [SW]Dodge: use ClearFont or the old font folder trick |
| 03:56.52 | Seerah | or change it right in the fubar (or fubarplugin) code |
| 03:56.59 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yeah, i guess its possible that i just had good timing |
| 03:58.26 | Seerah | sylv: lately in WAU, sometimes the banner ads don't load (it's just blank) - at first I just attributed that to the ads page perhaps being down. But now sometimes when they do display, IE does not open when I click them |
| 03:58.31 | [SW]Dodge | thx seerah :) |
| 03:58.31 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: I didn't say there's a default setting for it |
| 03:58.49 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: :) |
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| 04:00.33 | chiper | so.. which Cartographer should I be getting out of WoWAce? |
| 04:00.42 | chiper | 'cause there's two |
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| 04:01.32 | Chompers | just download the cool one |
| 04:01.37 | Seerah | the regular one |
| 04:01.42 | Seerah | that's just named Cartographer |
| 04:01.49 | chiper | k |
| 04:02.10 | chiper | and if I'm using _Routes, do I still need _Mining? |
| 04:02.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:02.48 | chiper | k |
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| 04:03.26 | kaiden | Anyone happen to remember Caithlyns guild site? |
| 04:04.38 | Xinhuan | bigzero: pong |
| 04:05.49 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57902 10CallToArms/CallToArms.lua: CallToArms: Change displayed version to SYL-10 for release. |
| 04:06.45 | bigzero | Xinhuan, did you get your darkmoon faire rep up? |
| 04:06.50 | Xinhuan | no |
| 04:06.50 | sylvanaar | Seerah wierd |
| 04:07.07 | bigzero | Xinhuan, guess nvm then |
| 04:07.11 | Xinhuan | the only way to get it up is by completing darkmoon cards i think? |
| 04:07.12 | Seerah | sylv: agree |
| 04:07.26 | [SW]Dodge | well, i'll go to bed now (5am^^) |
| 04:07.50 | bigzero | you can get to mid friendly by turnins...then there are like 3 quests 75 rep each you can get multiple times during the faire. they have some sort of cooldown though |
| 04:07.55 | Seerah | you sound like moonwitch. she's still up too /sigh :) |
| 04:07.59 | bigzero | card decks help though |
| 04:08.10 | Xinhuan | i'm more than mid-friendly i think |
| 04:08.59 | bigzero | i started collecting stuff for shendralar or w/e they're called |
| 04:09.30 | bigzero | and idk if i want to get to exaulted with thorium brotherhood...so many turnins qq |
| 04:10.14 | NightHawkTheSane | exalted* :) |
| 04:10.21 | bigzero | god damn me |
| 04:10.31 | bigzero | thanks NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:11.01 | bigzero | anyoe know if the MC mines are soloable with a druid? |
| 04:11.25 | bigzero | at 70 |
| 04:12.45 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57903 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Fix a spelling error. |
| 04:17.21 | Fin | does anyone know of an addon that lets you see other an alt's macros? |
| 04:18.19 | bigzero | that would not be possible |
| 04:18.24 | NightHawkTheSane | thats an odd request, and I don't think it'd be possible without saving each char's macros in SVs |
| 04:18.38 | bigzero | make a lobal macro |
| 04:18.41 | bigzero | global* |
| 04:19.47 | Fin | -other |
| 04:22.32 | kenlyric | I hate that I can't make my mount macro smarter. |
| 04:22.45 | kenlyric | since I have to actually name the mount, I have a different one for each toon. |
| 04:23.54 | Xinhuan | write an addon that generates that macro then |
| 04:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, part of me wants to actually stick gems in my enh gear and respec enh for a weekend |
| 04:24.13 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 04:24.19 | Silowyi | our priest was mind controlled |
| 04:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: too much effort for too little return :P |
| 04:24.24 | Silowyi | and dropped lightwell while mind controlled |
| 04:24.26 | Arrowmaster | why do you have to name the mounts |
| 04:24.30 | Silowyi | the funny thing was that we could still use it |
| 04:24.37 | Arrowmaster | use item:##### |
| 04:24.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: he means you can't just say "use whatever mount i have in my bags" |
| 04:24.48 | Xinhuan | using item:#### is still naming it ;p |
| 04:24.59 | Arrowmaster | well its much shorter |
| 04:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | length isn't the problem :P |
| 04:25.15 | NightHawkTheSane | he wants to use the exact same macro for every character, which is impossible |
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| 04:25.23 | Xinhuan | he's just irritated you have to recreate the macro specific to each character |
| 04:28.01 | kenlyric | blizz should let us bind a key to "mount" and "flying mount" |
| 04:28.21 | kenlyric | and randomly choose from what's in our bags. |
| 04:28.43 | Xinhuan | suggestion forum --> that way gogo |
| 04:28.53 | Pkekyo| | bloody hell...I've got to get up in three hours then drive for five hours >.< |
| 04:29.14 | chiper | how do you get routes to ignore nodes? I'd like to exclude skettis from the route |
| 04:29.50 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: still waiting on that one from February. |
| 04:30.25 | Xinhuan | chiper: you can't - its all or nothing |
| 04:30.30 | chiper | darn |
| 04:30.52 | Xinhuan | but as a human, you can make things click in your brain and just fly around it :D |
| 04:30.57 | chiper | yeah yeah |
| 04:31.11 | kenlyric | i requested a whole bunch of flying mount keybinds, including a "level" keybinding and descend keybinding. |
| 04:31.31 | Xinhuan | they added a descend one |
| 04:31.33 | kenlyric | I believe they implemented the descend one, but I've never mapped it, because by then I'd gotten use to not having it. |
| 04:31.53 | Xinhuan | the descend one actually works while swimming underwater too |
| 04:32.41 | kenlyric | I still want a level keybind. Sometimes I get it perfect, but some days it likes to vex me |
| 04:32.46 | Arrowmaster | wow always had a swim up and swim down keybinding |
| 04:33.06 | Xinhuan | it didn't have a swim down until recently |
| 04:33.11 | Xinhuan | swim up was just the jump button |
| 04:33.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:33.32 | Arrowmaster | real swim up and swim down |
| 04:33.42 | Arrowmaster | that you can hold instead of spamming jump |
| 04:34.23 | Fin | PvP noob question here |
| 04:34.36 | Fin | how comes I was just in an Alterac Valley battleground with level 70s in it? |
| 04:34.53 | kenlyric | are you level 61? |
| 04:34.55 | vithos | it's 61-70 |
| 04:35.00 | Fin | I'm level 68 |
| 04:35.01 | Fin | aha! |
| 04:35.10 | Fin | I thought it was only up to level 69 |
| 04:35.18 | Bruners | AV 51-60 -> 61-70 |
| 04:35.20 | kenlyric | at least you prefaced that with "pvp noob" question :) |
| 04:35.25 | kenlyric | so we were prepared |
| 04:35.29 | Fin | shit, so, all those horribly overpowered level 70s against me |
| 04:35.38 | Fin | I'm glad I'm a warlock |
| 04:35.54 | Fin | heh, well, I seriously am a total noob when it comes to PvP kenlyric |
| 04:36.01 | Fin | I've only ever done enough to get one of the rewards |
| 04:36.14 | Fin | in three years' time, that is |
| 04:36.22 | sylvaan | nn folks |
| 04:36.28 | Fin | night syl |
| 04:36.29 | Fin | d'oh |
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| 04:37.27 | kenlyric | you got a reward? |
| 04:37.32 | kenlyric | I never got a reward |
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| 04:41.04 | Fin | the PvP rewards? I thought that's what they're called |
| 04:41.10 | Fin | whatever, the stuff you can buy with honour |
| 04:42.26 | chiper | welcome to the world of crashed servers |
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| 04:43.55 | Fin | hmm |
| 04:44.09 | Fin | I wonder how long it would take me to go from Exalted with Scryers to Friendly with Aldor |
| 04:44.40 | Estil | lol blackrock |
| 04:45.01 | Bruners | Fin: along time |
| 04:45.05 | Bruners | really long |
| 04:45.22 | Bruners | i would almost say its better to just level up a new char :P |
| 04:45.50 | Fin | seriously? no way |
| 04:48.10 | Xinhuan | "Reduces the chance for your attacks to be dodged by 1%" isn't the same as "Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 1%" right? |
| 04:48.21 | bigzero | [22:19] * Fin is of the opinion that there are by far, too few slots available for macros <--- SuperMacro addon...have you tried it? |
| 04:48.48 | Fin | bigzero: I used to use it a long time ago, then it broke horribly and wasn't updated for ages - I shall have another look |
| 04:48.51 | Fin | thanks |
| 04:48.55 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: shouldn't be |
| 04:48.59 | kenlyric | dodge is only one kind of miss. |
| 04:49.03 | bigzero | yeah, it was tainting a lot...i think they fixed it |
| 04:49.12 | bigzero | Fin, i stopped using it myself |
| 04:49.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: unless blizzard is fucking with us, its entirely different underlying effects |
| 04:49.37 | kenlyric | like, i'd love a hit calculation that didn't reduce dodge but reduced everyting else. |
| 04:49.40 | kenlyric | gogo overpower! |
| 04:49.55 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:50.05 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, i never thought about that effect of expertise |
| 04:50.06 | kenlyric | I want an overpower at the start of every fight. |
| 04:50.07 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 04:50.20 | Fin | bigzero: seems to be only hosted on wowui |
| 04:50.39 | Fin | my least favourite addon site |
| 04:50.50 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: that's why I wanted my weapon skill to be crit rather than expertise (for orc) |
| 04:50.55 | bigzero | Fin, lol.. that's where I host my addons :-P |
| 04:51.47 | Xinhuan | who has a warrior and is logged in at the moment? |
| 04:52.25 | vithos | i have aimed shot! close enough? |
| 04:52.31 | Xinhuan | no :D |
| 04:52.41 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, i have a warrior, and i am logged in. but not on the warrior |
| 04:52.42 | Arrowmaster | +hit only reduces misses not dodges or parries |
| 04:52.45 | bigzero | what lvl warrior do you need? |
| 04:53.04 | Fin | bigzero: I think the admins are complete idiots, they showed absolutely 0% interest in problems I had with my account, ending up in me making a nuisance of myself in the shoutbox (my username didn't show up) and them deleting my account - no contact, nothing |
| 04:53.07 | Xinhuan | its alright, i'll just armory it up |
| 04:53.52 | Fin | turd burgers, honestly |
| 04:54.13 | bigzero | Fin, idk, never really had a problem with them. I like how the site is laid out though. In my opinion it's more intuitive than curse and wowi |
| 04:54.18 | Fin | (although I did get a couple of nice replies from one person - who I think was more to do with the design side of things - promising to forward my requests) |
| 04:54.49 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: what you need? |
| 04:54.50 | Arrowmaster | wowui is only slightly ahead of the chinese sites filled with keyloggers as far as trustable ui sites go |
| 04:55.09 | Xinhuan | i just wanted to know if the Expertise increase from "defiance" talent is active all the time |
| 04:55.13 | Fin | unfortunately I do quite like the site, but they treated me like I didn't matter, which for a "community" site promoting its' user features, is just hypocritical and makes them turd burgers in my book :/ |
| 04:55.15 | Xinhuan | or only if you're in defensive stance |
| 04:55.49 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: if memory serves, it's only in def-stance, but that's a stated bug, and has been or will be fixed |
| 04:56.22 | Xinhuan | so if you have the talent, its supposed to be on all the time? |
| 04:56.24 | Pkekyo| | it's _supposed_to_ work in all stances |
| 04:56.29 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 04:57.53 | Xinhuan | is there a place you can see your expertise on the char sheet? (i'm not logged in, there's this login queue of 500) |
| 04:58.18 | Fin | yes |
| 04:58.27 | Fin | under the Melee select option in the character sheet |
| 04:58.28 | Pkekyo| | there is, can't remember under what header though |
| 04:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | its the last line on the melee ttab |
| 04:58.36 | Fin | you can see it on an armory profile |
| 04:59.40 | Xinhuan | expertise affects what... dodge and parry only? |
| 04:59.47 | kenlyric | course armory is still horked |
| 04:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: yes |
| 05:01.15 | kenlyric | Avoision is probably a better rogue name than warrior name, but oh well. |
| 05:01.32 | Xinhuan | my rogue is called Xinister :D |
| 05:01.45 | Fin | mine's called Finja |
| 05:01.48 | Xinhuan | then i wanted to make another alt called Xinderella but someone stole the name |
| 05:02.24 | Fin | I wanted Fine for my female priest, but it was gone :( |
| 05:02.46 | Fin | makes it easier on Teamspeak |
| 05:03.17 | Fin | I always got confused about what to call someone when they were logged the game on as one name, and TS as another |
| 05:03.36 | Fin | especially when people started switching mains and stuff |
| 05:04.19 | kenlyric | typically the first name they had :) |
| 05:04.32 | Codayus | Heh, when TBC launched one of our rogues changed her main to her warrior, and for a while was our main MT. |
| 05:04.42 | Codayus | But everyone still called her by her rogues name. |
| 05:04.57 | kenlyric | half of my guild had different names from their MOHAA days |
| 05:04.57 | Codayus | In vent, in guild, in raid...always. This led to more than a little confusion with new recruits. |
| 05:05.01 | *** part/#wowace Trela (n=alexia@pool-72-70-188-47.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:05.14 | kenlyric | there was a rogue named blackendsky who everyone called "clear" |
| 05:05.26 | kenlyric | which made no fucking sense until I found out his name in MOHAA was "clearshot" |
| 05:05.58 | Codayus | And in one case, a wipe. Apparently, it helps if healers have a vague idea who they're assigned to heal... |
| 05:06.03 | kenlyric | but, when I got banned, I became one of those people :) |
| 05:06.18 | Fin | well, people don't have that problem (at least on Teamspeak :) with me :) (although sometimes it takes a bit longer to reply when asked what character I'm on...) |
| 05:06.22 | kenlyric | Codayus: he was a rogue, I was afe. |
| 05:06.23 | kenlyric | *safe |
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| 05:06.40 | Fin | kenlyric: you got banned? ooh, what for? |
| 05:06.52 | kenlyric | glider |
| 05:06.58 | NightHawkTheSane | fin was a dirty dirty botter |
| 05:07.12 | Fin | naughty naughty |
| 05:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | er, and by fin i mean kenlyric |
| 05:07.15 | Fin | but hey, cool |
| 05:07.21 | Fin | how long was the ban for? |
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| 05:07.29 | kenlyric | forever |
| 05:07.44 | kenlyric | they stillll exist... ghosts in the machine. |
| 05:07.51 | kenlyric | which is why I had to become a new name. |
| 05:08.01 | Fin | ah |
| 05:10.52 | kenlyric | hey, it let me reroll my priest to proper human race. |
| 05:11.09 | Pkekyo| | does a fixed bayonet affect the trajectory of a bullet? |
| 05:11.36 | Fin | whu |
| 05:11.58 | Xinhuan | i would imagine the answer to be no |
| 05:12.22 | kenlyric | I would also guess no |
| 05:13.53 | deadlock | How can i unlock the normal UI need/greed window? |
| 05:14.14 | Industrial | by coding it |
| 05:14.15 | Industrial | zing |
| 05:14.58 | deadlock | Industrial: Great answer. Is there a addon that does it. |
| 05:15.10 | Industrial | next youll ask; "Is there an ACE addon that can do this?" and Ill say "why omg i was fucking typing it out you know... |
| 05:15.16 | Industrial | .. |
| 05:15.31 | deadlock | All i can find is Xloot. which isnt exatly what i need. :-) |
| 05:15.33 | Industrial | "Why did you try looking" ? |
| 05:15.37 | Industrial | then, no :> |
| 05:15.41 | deadlock | Do you have to be a cocksucker?? :-) |
| 05:15.46 | Industrial | yeah, I enjoy it |
| 05:16.10 | deadlock | Sounds good. Alright. Suppose i'll keep looking through screenshot/pages. See if i casn find something. |
| 05:16.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial brings cocksucking to an art form. |
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| 05:17.08 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 05:17.35 | kenlyric | I saw an art film like that once. |
| 05:17.40 | kenlyric | oh, that was just porn. |
| 05:17.40 | Industrial | deadlock: have fun confirming http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=204;sa=showPosts |
| 05:18.12 | Industrial | Most of those are very cynical though. |
| 05:21.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, note to self, make sure mobs arn't elite before you recklessly attack them |
| 05:22.28 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: unless you're a hunter. |
| 05:22.51 | Xinhuan | To help improve the quality of play in Battlegrounds we have applied a Hotfix that significantly reduces the number of AFK reports needed to mark a player as inactive and prevent them from gaining Battleground Marks and Honor Points. |
| 05:22.53 | kenlyric | then it's just annoying because the fight takes twice as long. |
| 05:22.57 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: hah, touché. actually, i probably could have taken him, if i had known he was elite before blindly spamming maul |
| 05:22.57 | deadlock | hmmph all i can seem to find is compact lootframe, and its outdated -_- |
| 05:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | er, not maul, mangle |
| 05:23.35 | kenlyric | playing my warrior, I miss my hunter. |
| 05:23.37 | Xinhuan | Please join me in welcoming three new additions to the MVP program, specifically for the UI & Macro community.... |
| 05:23.38 | Xinhuan | Alestane, Cogwheel, and Lopeppeppy! |
| 05:23.42 | kenlyric | he never had trouble with dumbass frost breathing yetis. |
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| 05:29.54 | deadlock | Alright, seriously, Can anyone help me find out, a addon to add the loot frame, not the one that shows the loot, but the one tha pops up need/greed. I can only seem to find outdated mods. |
| 05:29.57 | bigzero | can babble do backwards translations? |
| 05:30.21 | bigzero | deadlock, what do you mean add? it's already there |
| 05:30.54 | deadlock | I want it to be movable. |
| 05:31.04 | deadlock | I cant move it anywhere, currently. Its just STUCK there. |
| 05:31.13 | bigzero | there are plenty of mods that allow you to move any frame |
| 05:31.37 | Fin | I didn't even know locks had an aggro dump until learning it at the trainers |
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| 05:32.09 | deadlock | Fin: Is there one that moves just the frames. |
| 05:32.33 | Fin | deadlock: que? |
| 05:32.36 | deadlock | need/greed frame |
| 05:32.46 | Fin | I use MoveAnything |
| 05:32.55 | Fin | I think you meat to address that to someone else, however |
| 05:33.32 | Fin | er, not MoveAnything, sorry, MoveIt |
| 05:33.47 | Hjalte | How does WAU2 know what version a specific addon is? |
| 05:33.54 | aestil | .toc |
| 05:34.08 | Fin | doesn't it just read the information from the XML? |
| 05:34.10 | aestil | cogwheel is a MVP? |
| 05:34.23 | Fin | the XML file from files.wowace.com, that is |
| 05:34.33 | Fin | ohhh, you mean locally |
| 05:34.38 | Fin | righto, gorrit |
| 05:34.58 | Hjalte | Fin: I mean locally, right. aestil, I don't see any of that info in the toc? |
| 05:35.16 | Fin | there's normally a line with ## Version: |
| 05:35.48 | bigzero | Hjalte, i don't think it knows if you change the .toc yourself. when you install using wau, it records the latest version in it's own db |
| 05:36.16 | Hjalte | Bah. I'm trying to make it not update Recount, because I am using the updated version from Curse. |
| 05:36.28 | bigzero | so if you installed v1.5 with wau and then added v2.0 of that addon manually, wau will think it's still v1.5 |
| 05:36.38 | Fin | Hjalte: just right click the addon and choose "ignore" |
| 05:36.53 | Fin | right click it in the list of addons shown in WAU, that is |
| 05:37.12 | Hjalte | Fin: Can't do that with WAU2 :P |
| 05:37.26 | aestil | why use WAU2? |
| 05:37.27 | Fin | get sylvanaar's WAU then |
| 05:37.36 | aestil | just cause its not .Net? |
| 05:37.49 | Hjalte | WAU2 does what I need, untill now it seems ;) |
| 05:40.03 | vithos | create a directory called .svn in the addon directory |
| 05:41.14 | Fin | or, write protect the directory |
| 05:41.53 | Hjalte | I'll just try and go back to WAU for some time :) |
| 05:43.07 | Fin | good luck |
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| 05:47.10 | bigzero | you can't look at the changelog for individual addons in wau2? |
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| 05:48.40 | Hjalte | bigzero: I don't think so |
| 05:50.57 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: What's the talents thing for WoWEquip? |
| 05:51.11 | Xinhuan | to include in some talent stuff |
| 05:51.24 | Xinhuan | for example - "Increases your spell damage by 25% of your intellect" |
| 05:51.29 | bigzero | when you update with externals in wau and lets say aceevents gets updated, all addons that have aceevents get updated by wau? |
| 05:51.30 | Xinhuan | i would take all the +int from your gear |
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| 05:51.35 | Xinhuan | and add 25% of that to your spell dmg |
| 05:51.39 | Xinhuan | in derived stats |
| 05:51.51 | Xinhuan | (still won't take into account base char stats) |
| 05:53.31 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: Oh. So to as get more accurate comparisons going. |
| 05:55.54 | Fin | bigzero: with externals means download them as embedded libraries |
| 05:56.21 | Fin | bigzero: without externals means download external libraries as dependencies, unless that option is turned off |
| 05:58.30 | bigzero | right, but when the library gets updated, does the server repackage the new version of the lib with the addon? |
| 05:59.32 | Fin | that's not WAU |
| 05:59.50 | Fin | are you talking about WAU, or the zip files created on files.wowace.com? actually in either case, the answer is yes |
| 06:00.12 | Fin | (well, "yes" sort of, in one case, interpreting your question slightly) |
| 06:00.26 | bigzero | ok, so if AceLibrary gets updated, basically every addon that i have will get updated by wau |
| 06:00.41 | Fin | are you talking about WAU, or the zip files created on files.wowace.com? actually in either case, the answer is yes |
| 06:01.06 | Fin | it would be nice, when answering your questions, if you answered questions put to you also |
| 06:01.42 | bigzero | you said the answer was yes in either case so i figured you didn't care |
| 06:01.56 | bigzero | i'm talking about both kinda |
| 06:02.00 | Fin | I do in a way, because not knowing makes it harder to answer your questions properly |
| 06:02.04 | Fin | that's all |
| 06:02.32 | bigzero | let me start from the begining, just so i'm not missing something |
| 06:02.36 | Fin | also it would be slightly annoying if you were using the term "WAU" to mean files.wowace.com, but that's just me |
| 06:02.41 | Fin | please do |
| 06:02.50 | bigzero | how does wau determine if there is a new version of a mod available? |
| 06:03.02 | Fin | and we *are* talking about WAU, right? |
| 06:03.04 | Fin | :) |
| 06:03.06 | bigzero | wau meaning the client that i use to update |
| 06:03.53 | Fin | k, well, it gets checks the local version of the mod - I have to admit I'm not 100% sure of the mechanics of how it does that, but I would say from the Version information in the .toc file (it might possibly check elsewhere) |
| 06:04.42 | Fin | then it downloads the XML feed from files.wowace.com and compares the two numbers |
| 06:04.52 | Fin | is that enough detail? |
| 06:05.10 | bigzero | for this discussion, i suppose it is |
| 06:05.36 | Fin | I mean, do you want me to keep describing the process or are you satisfied. I'll take that as you being satisfied, good. |
| 06:06.39 | Fin | please do say if I should stop |
| 06:06.41 | bigzero | ok, now, if AceAddon gets updated and I am updating with externals. wau will download the xml feed and will compare the version numbers. Now because none of the addons really got updated, will it know that AceAddon got updated? |
| 06:06.54 | bigzero | sorry...kinda slow..had to think about it |
| 06:07.05 | Fin | because it checks the version numbers of externals as well |
| 06:07.19 | bigzero | ok, going on... |
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| 06:07.44 | Fin | it knows about externals in the same way the game does, through the .toc files |
| 06:08.01 | Fin | I'm slow too |
| 06:08.11 | Fin | lets be friends |
| 06:08.20 | bigzero | now the way I understand wau updates addons is just by downloading the zips from files.wowace.com Now that means that updating AceAddon cause almost all the zips to change, so all the addons would have to be updated? |
| 06:09.00 | Fin | I believe they are, yes |
| 06:09.04 | kenlyric | bigzero: actually, if you're running with externals, the addons DO get updated every time a lib gets updated. |
| 06:09.07 | Fin | although the filenames are only changed to have a .1 on the end |
| 06:09.14 | kenlyric | it gets an incremental number after the version number. |
| 06:09.20 | Fin | or .2, etc. if they externals have been updated multiple times |
| 06:09.25 | Fin | what he said |
| 06:09.26 | kenlyric | or .137 .... |
| 06:09.27 | bigzero | kenlyric, Fin, ok...I got the info i wanted |
| 06:09.37 | bigzero | that sucks though |
| 06:09.38 | Fin | are you rewriting WAU or something? |
| 06:09.41 | Fin | why does it suck? |
| 06:09.55 | bigzero | updating with externals puts so much unnecessary load on the server |
| 06:10.01 | kenlyric | which is why it's better to run with external libs, not embedded ones. Updates will be much faster :) |
| 06:10.03 | Fin | oh, well, fuck the server |
| 06:10.06 | Fin | :P |
| 06:10.09 | bigzero | lol |
| 06:10.15 | kenlyric | you mean embedded, not externals. |
| 06:10.23 | Fin | no, seriously, yeah but hey it's all about service eh? that's what the ads are for, anyway |
| 06:10.26 | kenlyric | the libs are either embedded or external |
| 06:10.30 | Fin | so if you *are* rewriting WAU, make sure the ads show up |
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| 06:10.43 | bigzero | lol, nope, not rewriting WAU |
| 06:11.05 | Fin | maybe one day |
| 06:11.10 | bigzero | but i was thinking of redoing my setup and starting to update with externals |
| 06:11.22 | Fin | you mean, start to use embedded libs? |
| 06:11.27 | bigzero | but now i decided against it |
| 06:11.28 | Fin | why, if I can ask? |
| 06:11.34 | marco0009 | I'm using Parser-3.0, but ever after I call UnregisterParserEvent my handler is still being called. UnregisterAllParserEvents didn't do anything for me either. Any ideas? |
| 06:12.18 | Fin | and why not, as a followup question |
| 06:12.26 | kenlyric | updating with external libs is faster for you, too. |
| 06:12.29 | bigzero | well, with embeded libs it's much easier to test random addons without leaving garbage libs behind (i realize they shouldn't get loaded anyway, but I like it clean) |
| 06:12.52 | bigzero | i think i had some other organizational reason too |
| 06:13.11 | Fin | there's certainly a whole cockload more directories in your Interface\AddOns folder |
| 06:13.21 | kenlyric | that's true. |
| 06:13.29 | Fin | also one thing that annoys me slightly |
| 06:13.38 | kenlyric | I backup to a USB flash drive, so going from 4000 files to 2000 files makes the process much faster :) |
| 06:13.45 | Fin | I use addons not hosted in the wowace SVN repository, and sometimes they use Ace embedded libs |
| 06:13.56 | kenlyric | plus the fact that much fewer files of the 2000 get updated. |
| 06:14.08 | Fin | so I have a bunch of forced-embedded addons in use |
| 06:14.11 | bigzero | as for the not reason, i like to look at the list of outdated addons and then peak at the changelogs. if every time let's say babble gets updated the addons using it get marked as outdated then that ruins it |
| 06:14.36 | vithos | yeah, it would be cool if wau would remember which addons you specifically requested to be installed, and which are only there as auto-deps, and could ask if you want to remove them when they are no longer used |
| 06:14.48 | Fin | but Babble is being used by the addon - you wouldn't stay up to date if it's not updated also |
| 06:15.06 | Fin | you could just mark the libs as ignored |
| 06:15.15 | Fin | hmm, not sure if that would work actually, not tried it |
| 06:15.22 | Fin | dunno if ignored dependencies are ignored |
| 06:15.24 | Fin | should work, though |
| 06:15.36 | bigzero | how would you mark the individual lib if you never installed it...it comes embedded |
| 06:15.52 | bigzero | like there's nothing to right-click |
| 06:15.56 | Fin | oh, I see, sorry |
| 06:16.07 | Fin | I'm getting mixed up between what you want and what you have |
| 06:16.23 | bigzero | well, you asked for the pros and cons |
| 06:16.27 | bigzero | so i gave you both |
| 06:16.33 | Fin | I was just getting mixed up |
| 06:16.38 | Fin | but thanks |
| 06:16.40 | bigzero | yeah, gotcha |
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| 06:16.50 | bigzero | so yeah, sticking to externals |
| 06:16.52 | Fin | I'm slow *and* confused |
| 06:17.26 | Fin | lets be friends |
| 06:17.46 | bigzero | I just go through the list occasionally and mark all the things that I did not tell WAU to install and delete them (all the libs basically) then do an update without externals |
| 06:17.55 | bigzero | Fin, deal |
| 06:18.16 | Fin | hmm |
| 06:18.20 | Fin | I might do that, actually |
| 06:18.28 | Fin | although I do have my nice little bash script |
| 06:18.48 | bigzero | oh yeah, i remember seeing that posted somewhere |
| 06:19.08 | Fin | it works pretty well |
| 06:19.18 | bigzero | runnin windows xp though, so no good |
| 06:19.37 | bigzero | darn broadcom WiFi drivers not working right on linux... |
| 06:20.22 | vithos | seriously? i thought the wrt54g routers were broadcom |
| 06:20.23 | Fin | I'm running Windows XP as well |
| 06:20.41 | Fin | wrt45g is linksys |
| 06:20.51 | Fin | bigzero: I use Cygwin |
| 06:21.02 | bigzero | vithos, they are...I actually bought one and it ended up being WRT54G v8.0 |
| 06:21.18 | vithos | wow, didn't know they were up to 8.0 now |
| 06:21.49 | bigzero | yeah, 2mb flash and i think 8mb ram...dd-wrt micro is the only firmware that fits on them |
| 06:21.57 | bigzero | and it's pretty buggy |
| 06:21.58 | Fin | mine says Linksys on the front of it |
| 06:22.10 | bigzero | Fin, the chip inside is broadcom though |
| 06:22.13 | vithos | Fin: the wifi chip |
| 06:22.20 | Fin | oh, OK, thanks for clarifying that |
| 06:22.40 | vithos | hmm, that sucks. i run Tomato on my gs v2.1 |
| 06:23.14 | vithos | 8mb flash 32mb ram :D |
| 06:23.31 | vithos | not that i'm using it. though i was using it when i ran openwrt |
| 06:23.38 | bigzero | yeah...and removable antennas |
| 06:23.44 | bigzero | now they are permanently attached |
| 06:23.50 | Fin | who cares about that, 640KB should be enough for anyone |
| 06:24.00 | bigzero | lol |
| 06:24.16 | bigzero | I was really disapointed with linksys base firmware though |
| 06:24.25 | Fin | it's cack on a plate |
| 06:24.49 | bigzero | they did even have static ip assignments |
| 06:24.52 | Fin | and it's only that good because someone who wasn't getting paid spent time on it, I bet |
| 06:25.00 | bigzero | so port forwarding doesn't really work either |
| 06:25.18 | Fin | they don't care, they're not selling it as a consumer product really |
| 06:25.29 | Fin | it's for ISPs and businesses |
| 06:25.39 | bigzero | unless i set the ip on my laptop as static, but then it breaks on other networks.. |
| 06:26.07 | bigzero | Fin, you'd think for bussinesses better management would be more important |
| 06:26.21 | vithos | yeah, static dhcp is pretty handy |
| 06:26.30 | bigzero | usually all the consumer does is plug and play |
| 06:26.43 | Fin | OK, just ISPs then |
| 06:26.45 | bigzero | vithos, that's the least i would call it |
| 06:27.36 | Fin | does the default firmware allow remote logins via telnet? and can that interface do any of the stuff the web interface can't? |
| 06:27.46 | bigzero | one more question about WAU, what's the "Delete before updating" option under Old Addon Handling supposed to mean. Like what difference does it make to me if it deletes or overwrites? |
| 06:28.06 | bigzero | Fin, telnet...i don't think so |
| 06:28.11 | bigzero | maybe |
| 06:28.19 | Codayus | bigzero: Probably nothing. But imagine a mod undergoes a rewrite, and some files move, or are renamed, or split... |
| 06:28.33 | Fin | there's a reason for it, I can't quite remember what exactly |
| 06:28.38 | bigzero | so checked makes sense |
| 06:28.40 | Codayus | You may end up with a lot of old and unused files. *shrug*. |
| 06:28.41 | Fin | it's what you should use when your addons get fucked up |
| 06:28.50 | bigzero | lol, fin |
| 06:28.57 | Fin | it's like a format + reinstall vs. update |
| 06:28.59 | Codayus | However, if you have added your own textures or something...you might not want it to do that. |
| 06:29.20 | bigzero | oh and Save old version info? |
| 06:29.40 | Fin | dunno |
| 06:29.43 | Fin | try it |
| 06:29.49 | Fin | have you read the wiki and forum thread? |
| 06:30.22 | Fin | tut tut |
| 06:30.28 | Fin | lazy bastard |
| 06:30.40 | bigzero | actually the wiki page is outdated |
| 06:30.45 | bigzero | but i'll look on the forum |
| 06:30.48 | Fin | so update it :) |
| 06:33.16 | bigzero | ha...there is no direct answer to my question, but i found a clue..."The snapshots at most take 200k on disk. |
| 06:33.17 | bigzero | You can disable them in the preferences. |
| 06:33.20 | bigzero | " |
| 06:33.31 | Fin | oh, right, OK |
| 06:33.47 | Fin | sec |
| 06:34.27 | bigzero | I think I'll add the explanations for those options in the wiki when I have time |
| 06:34.45 | Fin | I think it's just a file with a zipped copy of the XML feed, but not 100% sure - try it |
| 06:34.48 | Fin | ooh, nice one |
| 06:34.49 | Fin | good for you |
| 06:36.41 | bigzero | wow, yeah the options list on wiki has not been updated since 1.7 i think |
| 06:38.42 | bigzero | hmmm, seems like I don't have permission to edit the page |
| 06:39.33 | bigzero | well, there goes my motivation to edit it.. |
| 06:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: thats more or less the same reason i dont get an svn account :) |
| 06:40.37 | Fin | eh? |
| 06:40.57 | bigzero | Kaelten is lazy? |
| 06:41.00 | Fin | how comes you don't have permission? |
| 06:41.13 | bigzero | Fin, there's no "edit" link on that page |
| 06:41.36 | Fin | are you logged in? |
| 06:41.39 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: no.. because if i had one, i'd have no excuse to not fix bugs i find |
| 06:41.43 | bigzero | Fin, yeah |
| 06:41.55 | Fin | huh, doesn't show one for me either |
| 06:42.01 | Fin | maybe it's a protected page or summat |
| 06:42.14 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane lol |
| 06:42.17 | Fin | dear oh dear, waiting for sylvanaar to update the docs... not sure that's a good idea :P |
| 06:42.20 | bigzero | fin, probably |
| 06:42.48 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, what mods did you write? |
| 06:43.15 | NightHawkTheSane | none. :P well, none that i've really released |
| 06:43.46 | Fin | This page has been locked to prevent editing |
| 06:43.47 | bigzero | ah, i figured like most people that regularly hang out are mod authors |
| 06:43.51 | Fin | (from http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=WowAceUpdater&action=edit) |
| 06:44.00 | bigzero | Fin, haxor |
| 06:44.22 | Fin | bigzero, what I would do, is copy the text from that URL (the source is in the textbox), and create a new test page somewhere with your updates |
| 06:44.52 | Fin | eg, just go to http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=bigzero:WowAceUpdater&action=edit and copy from the WowAceUpdater article |
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| 06:45.45 | bigzero | limit of motivation as effort approaches slightly bigger number than 0 is 0 |
| 06:46.09 | Fin | that's really not much more effort |
| 06:46.13 | Fin | tell you what |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r021602373c 10./StatusFrame.lua: Possible fix for optional TURNIN objectives not showing up (fedex quests mainly) |
| 06:46.41 | bigzero | lol, fin, i was kidding..I don't mind doing it, but how much use would it be if no one would find it? |
| 06:47.14 | bigzero | I mean people that try to figure this stuff out look on the WAU page on wiki |
| 06:47.16 | Fin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bigzero:WowAceUpdater |
| 06:47.17 | Fin | there you go |
| 06:47.24 | Fin | now there's no extra effort involved for you at all |
| 06:47.44 | bigzero | thanks |
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| 06:48.12 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r7ab954c557 10./TourGuide_Alliance/23_24_Darkshore.lua: User darkshore tweaks |
| 06:48.13 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf5e3962ede 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (29_30_Ashenvale.lua 30_31_Wetlands.lua): User Ally Ashenvale and Wetlands tweaks |
| 06:48.14 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r48ee62123c 10./TourGuide_Alliance/31_32_Hillsbrad_Foothills.lua: User ally Hillsbrad tweaks |
| 06:48.17 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r113eb6cae0 10./TourGuide_Alliance/31_32_Hillsbrad_Foothills.lua: More user ally Hillsbrad tweaks |
| 06:48.22 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf074b31e92 10./: Merge branch 'AllyTweaks' |
| 06:48.25 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r61afa19075 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (13 files): Tweaks to user ally guides |
| 06:49.07 | Cryect | damn Tek spamming us enough! |
| 06:49.52 | Fin | Cryect: I thought you had disappeared into the ether? |
| 06:49.59 | kenlyric | delicious! |
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| 06:50.24 | kenlyric | damn, too bad there's no fix for the horde hillsbrad yeti quests being done at level 30. |
| 06:50.30 | kenlyric | level 34 yeties are vERY ANGRY |
| 06:50.46 | Osstia|mac | kenlyric: fix? |
| 06:50.56 | Tekkub | pfft, cry more (both of you) |
| 06:50.57 | Osstia|mac | does his guide tell you to go at 30? |
| 06:51.10 | kenlyric | well, not his guide, but the mod :) |
| 06:51.16 | Osstia|mac | ahh |
| 06:51.22 | Tekkub | submit patches |
| 06:51.37 | Tekkub | my hordie's only 20, havn't tested that far yet |
| 06:53.11 | Osstia|mac | motion sensor lights ++ windy night ++ glass front door == annoying |
| 06:55.58 | marco0009 | Anyone available who can give me a hand with some parser-3.0 stuff? I think its some minor issue I just dont get due to my noobishness |
| 06:56.00 | marco0009 | but IDK |
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| 06:58.23 | ckknight | howdy |
| 06:59.24 | kenlyric | clearly an imposter |
| 06:59.32 | chiper | anyone else noticed the clockwork rocket bots not attacking each other? |
| 07:00.03 | KivinSan | chiper: our robots wern't attacking each other in kara tonight. we had about six of them. they'd target, then lose target, repeatedly |
| 07:00.06 | Fin | hello ck |
| 07:00.12 | KivinSan | hello ckknight |
| 07:00.14 | kenlyric | mine always die. |
| 07:00.21 | kenlyric | before they can fire. |
| 07:00.24 | Fin | mine always win! |
| 07:00.32 | Fin | they fire first |
| 07:00.50 | chiper | ken: target range is 10 meters. get out of range before you summon him |
| 07:02.11 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57904 10Postal/Modules/ (Express.lua OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - Add additional checks to ensure it would not attempt to delete mail if it has any attachments. |
| 07:02.36 | chiper | KivinSan: we're in kara right now, so maybe it's zone centered |
| 07:02.49 | KivinSan | chiper: that's what we seemed to think |
| 07:03.23 | KivinSan | Pop quiz: When I cut & paste text with non-ascii characters into notepad++, it replaces them with their ascii variants. accented Es become plain Es, for example. |
| 07:03.31 | KivinSan | How do i fix this |
| 07:03.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I've heard that after the winter veil holiday ended, they made the rockets no longer attack. *shrug* |
| 07:03.58 | KivinSan | nvm |
| 07:04.01 | KivinSan | gg for answering your own questions |
| 07:04.49 | Fin | was that the jeopardy version of a pop quiz? |
| 07:05.09 | KivinSan | XD |
| 07:05.17 | Osstia|mac | no idea KivinSan |
| 07:05.19 | KivinSan | second question: Is there any point in having a enGB locale? |
| 07:05.22 | Osstia|mac | nm, how'd you fix it? |
| 07:05.33 | KivinSan | Format -> Encode in UTF8 |
| 07:05.36 | Fin | I wish there was :( |
| 07:05.55 | Osstia|mac | what would you change for enGB? |
| 07:06.00 | Fin | words |
| 07:06.03 | Fin | duh |
| 07:06.09 | Osstia|mac | s/color/colour/? |
| 07:06.11 | Fin | honor, armor, color |
| 07:06.22 | Fin | "neat" -> "capital" |
| 07:06.48 | Osstia|mac | wasn't meant to be sarcastiv. i was serious |
| 07:06.49 | KivinSan | anyone speak German? |
| 07:07.10 | Fin | I believe a number of people do in Germany |
| 07:07.11 | Osstia|mac | just kinda curious what the changes would be |
| 07:07.18 | KivinSan | *smack* |
| 07:07.36 | Fin | not huge ones, Osstia, but, the minor ones are irritating |
| 07:08.50 | Fin | you might find it irritating if it were the other way round |
| 07:08.59 | Fin | +and you're American |
| 07:09.16 | Osstia|mac | i would imagine it would be irritating |
| 07:09.59 | Fin | although, I heard a while ago, that the American way of saying and spelling things might actually be more historically accurate than the English way, at least in some situations |
| 07:10.27 | Fin | it was apparently sometimes the British version that was corrupted |
| 07:10.53 | Vexir | corrupted? |
| 07:10.57 | Vexir | by what |
| 07:10.59 | Vexir | teenage slang? |
| 07:10.59 | bigzero | Two questions: what's "Unpack Addons" option and what kind of logging is "Diagnostic Logging" exactly? |
| 07:11.05 | Fin | slutty whores |
| 07:11.06 | KivinSan | Languages are constantly changing |
| 07:11.34 | Fin | bigzero: unpack addons has something to do with addon packages, I believe |
| 07:11.36 | KivinSan | Historically by neighbouring influence and by conquering influence |
| 07:11.45 | Osstia|mac | I went to my families at christmas time, and my 17 year old nephew who i see once a year said "wtf pwn" |
| 07:11.48 | Fin | bigzero: and diagnostic logging produces verbose logfiles, at a guess? |
| 07:11.57 | Osstia|mac | he actually verbalized it. it was a sad day |
| 07:12.00 | Fin | he said that? |
| 07:12.14 | Fin | did he say lol and rofl as well? |
| 07:12.18 | Osstia|mac | no |
| 07:12.18 | Fin | or actually just laugh |
| 07:12.25 | KivinSan | My kara raid lead says leetspeek on ventrilo -.- |
| 07:12.25 | Osstia|mac | just w t f pown |
| 07:12.25 | ulic | bigzero: maybe "unpack addons" makes modular addons modular. |
| 07:12.33 | Fin | I saw someone say lol in an episode of Californication the other day |
| 07:12.39 | KivinSan | "oh em gee!" |
| 07:12.48 | Osstia|mac | i have heard that KivinSan |
| 07:13.23 | Vexir | Osstia: you should really come to my school, i pass by groups of cheerleaders screaming "PWNT" |
| 07:13.32 | Osstia|mac | fin, is that the david duchovnee (sp??) one on showtie? |
| 07:13.36 | Vexir | then again i live in the Bay Area |
| 07:13.55 | Osstia|mac | I visited the bay area this summer. I am very tempted to move there |
| 07:14.31 | Fin | Osstia|mac: yes |
| 07:14.53 | Osstia|mac | I saw commercials for it this summer, it looked mediocre at best |
| 07:15.34 | Fin | it's... very typical of David Duchovny |
| 07:15.37 | Fin | so yeah |
| 07:16.04 | Vexir | Osstia: you're tempted now... are you aware of the living cost there? |
| 07:16.12 | Osstia|mac | yes |
| 07:16.21 | ckknight | how strict are the gun laws in California? |
| 07:16.21 | Osstia|mac | thats the only thing preventing it |
| 07:16.23 | KivinSan | is CN or TW simplified chinese >_< I never remember |
| 07:16.50 | Vexir | ckknight: eh, most gun vendors in cali dont check |
| 07:16.56 | Vexir | ckknight: even though they're supposed to |
| 07:16.56 | ckknight | KivinSan: CN |
| 07:17.02 | KivinSan | ckknight: ty |
| 07:17.13 | ckknight | Vexir: well, I'm wondering about the right to have a concealed weapon |
| 07:17.20 | ckknight | and what do you mean "don't check"? |
| 07:17.34 | Vexir | background checks |
| 07:17.37 | ckknight | I don't have any mental issues or criminal record |
| 07:17.42 | Osstia|mac | do you carry ckknight? |
| 07:17.45 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8761.msg142970#msg142970 well, that's supposed to explain it, but it's still kinda shady to me |
| 07:17.54 | marco0009 | ckknight: It was you who said you made Parser-3.0, right? |
| 07:17.57 | ckknight | Osstia|mac: no, but I'd like to know that I could |
| 07:17.58 | Vexir | i'm not sure ckk, i dont carry a concealed weapon... i have no dreams of being a ninja=P |
| 07:18.01 | ckknight | marco0009: and LibParser-4.0 |
| 07:18.22 | Osstia|mac | I got my permit, but have never carried |
| 07:18.28 | Osstia|mac | but not it CA |
| 07:18.32 | ckknight | Vexir: it's not about being a ninja, it's about having the ability to protect yourself on the street if some little shit tries to steal from you |
| 07:18.33 | Osstia|mac | in |
| 07:18.49 | Vexir | ckknight: doesnt happen in the bay area... ever |
| 07:18.53 | Vexir | ckknight: socal is a different story |
| 07:18.58 | ckknight | okay then |
| 07:19.00 | ckknight | yay |
| 07:19.19 | Vexir | the town i live in, sunnyvale, right next to Cupertino, used to be in the top 10 safest cities of america |
| 07:19.20 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57905 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Add Warrior and Paladin talents to menu. |
| 07:19.23 | KivinSan | You know, I don't think I've ever seen a gun. |
| 07:19.30 | KivinSan | Except maybe a hunting rifle once |
| 07:19.42 | Osstia|mac | I used to shoot a lot |
| 07:19.47 | Osstia|mac | it was entertaining |
| 07:19.50 | marco0009 | ckknight: Quick question then. I'm having a little trouble with UnregisterAllParserEvents. I want to parse every event, but only under specific conditions. So I have it register with { } as the filter, and then call UnreigsterAll when i don't want to parse, but my handler is still getting called. Do I have to explicitly call events for UnregisterAll to work? |
| 07:19.52 | ckknight | even if I had the option, I probably wouldn't get a gun, but I like knowing that I have the option to do so at any time |
| 07:20.19 | ckknight | marco0009: :UnregisterAll should work, lemme see your code |
| 07:20.25 | marco0009 | Sure thing. One sec. |
| 07:20.56 | KivinSan | I've been mugged - twice, in fact. I still don't make any efforts to lock any of my doors. I've been known to leave my car for extended periods of time with the keys in the ignition... |
| 07:21.18 | Fin | adoesn't that make you a bit fick? |
| 07:21.29 | KivinSan | a bit what? |
| 07:21.30 | marco0009 | http://ace.pastey.net/80078 |
| 07:21.49 | Fin | fick |
| 07:21.54 | KivinSan | I don't know this word |
| 07:21.55 | Hjalte | KivinSan: I do that all the time too. But I lock the doors. Preventing me from getting in :( |
| 07:22.05 | Osstia|mac | someone came into my house about 2 months back. at like 3 AM |
| 07:22.09 | Osstia|mac | scared the shit out of me |
| 07:22.13 | KivinSan | o.O |
| 07:22.16 | Osstia|mac | I have been slightly paranoid since |
| 07:22.56 | KivinSan | I had someone enter my house late at night about 5 or 6 years ago about maybe 1 AM. I had two friends over, was in my teens then. They bumped a dish upstairs which caused a cacophany of loud noises from falling porcelain |
| 07:22.59 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bigzero:WowAceUpdater there. sorry fin for cutting out all your hard work :-) |
| 07:23.17 | KivinSan | Needless to say, they went out the way they came, very quickly. |
| 07:23.28 | Vexir | how lol |
| 07:23.31 | Vexir | ... |
| 07:23.34 | Fin | hard work? |
| 07:23.35 | Vexir | didnt mean to type that |
| 07:23.40 | Osstia|mac | KivinSan: same, theres a hallway from my bederrom to the ront door |
| 07:23.44 | Vexir | how do i access Prat's config screen |
| 07:23.53 | Osstia|mac | i spoke up, and they ran right back out |
| 07:23.54 | KivinSan | ./prat waterfall |
| 07:24.04 | KivinSan | Osstia|mac that's good |
| 07:24.13 | Vexir | ty |
| 07:24.42 | Keias | ~seen Diao |
| 07:24.43 | purl | diao <i=vschiu@ip72-219-157-167.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23d 21h 29m 19s ago, saying: 'so... slut?'. |
| 07:25.04 | Osstia|mac | i never have good quotes on ~seen |
| 07:25.13 | Osstia|mac | i need to say more memorable things |
| 07:25.28 | KivinSan | I can't imagine anyone would ever ~seen me, so whatever |
| 07:25.33 | Osstia|mac | haha |
| 07:25.41 | Osstia|mac | I have ~seen you in the past week |
| 07:25.45 | KivinSan | *blink* |
| 07:25.56 | KivinSan | But I'm a nobody |
| 07:26.13 | Osstia|mac | I had a dumb question, and you have been friendly and answered lots of those for me |
| 07:26.16 | Vexir | ~seen Vexir |
| 07:26.17 | purl | vexir is currently on #wowace (1h 15m 45s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Vexir'. |
| 07:26.23 | Vexir | lol |
| 07:26.24 | KivinSan | w |
| 07:26.48 | Keias | ~seen Keias |
| 07:26.49 | purl | keias is currently on #wowace (9h 36m 43s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Keias'. |
| 07:26.49 | KivinSan | Well my spam addon is almost ready |
| 07:26.52 | Keias | 9 |
| 07:26.54 | Keias | what a lie |
| 07:27.00 | Vexir | KivinSan: let me know when =P |
| 07:27.18 | KivinSan | Vexir: Just doing the rockconfig jazz and it's good to go. It hasn't let a peep through all day |
| 07:27.24 | Osstia|mac | does it block group invtes from lvl 1 chars/ |
| 07:27.37 | KivinSan | Not yet. I'm more concerned about chat. That's on the top of the to-do list |
| 07:27.46 | Osstia|mac | nice |
| 07:28.02 | KivinSan | Also, I haven't attempted to localize spam filters, so assuming those asshats use different macros on eu servers, it might be worthless |
| 07:28.19 | Vexir | oh |
| 07:28.19 | KivinSan | I tried to make filters as generic as possible without trapping every person that says "gold" |
| 07:28.33 | Vexir | i thought it was an addon that automaitcally spammed "375 Elixir Master LFW" |
| 07:28.35 | Vexir | :( |
| 07:28.36 | Vexir | darn |
| 07:28.38 | KivinSan | oh, no |
| 07:28.41 | Vexir | =P |
| 07:28.44 | Osstia|mac | hahaha |
| 07:28.46 | KivinSan | Gold spam... |
| 07:28.48 | Vexir | that takes so much work |
| 07:29.04 | Osstia|mac | I bet |
| 07:29.12 | KivinSan | would be easy enough to do. hash everything that comes across trade and compare it against a short history |
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| 07:29.32 | KivinSan | let the same has pass X number of times then block it for a period of time |
| 07:29.37 | KivinSan | s/has/hash |
| 07:30.10 | Osstia|mac | spamming sn't too bad on my realm |
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| 07:30.23 | KivinSan | it got okay for a while, then got really bad again recently |
| 07:30.25 | Osstia|mac | trade chat is a joke, but the lvl 1 invite thing is annoying as hell |
| 07:30.37 | KivinSan | the other night, i had 3 spammers: 1 gold and 2 wow hacks, all spamming on top of each other |
| 07:30.49 | KivinSan | i made my chat log as tall as it goes and text was scrolling faster than i could read it |
| 07:30.57 | bigzero | all i ever get is a lvl1 standing by bank and spamming in /say |
| 07:31.08 | KivinSan | they alternate /say and emote on my server |
| 07:31.11 | KivinSan | one on, one off |
| 07:31.25 | KivinSan | my ignore lists are all maxed out on all my characters, and not from spammers |
| 07:31.34 | Vexir | when i enable font outlining in prat how come only the top half of my chat box gets changed |
| 07:31.35 | KivinSan | so that option is out the window. i needed a solution that didn't involve the ignore list at all |
| 07:31.38 | Fin | I've recently had people whispering me and actually replying when I asked a question |
| 07:32.24 | KivinSan | whispering you for what |
| 07:32.27 | Vexir | Fin: I havent. |
| 07:32.45 | KivinSan | the only time someone whispers me is "CAN I HAS GOLDS PLZZZZZZ |
| 07:32.58 | KivinSan | I REALLY NEEDS MORE GOLDSSSSSSS |
| 07:33.54 | KivinSan | I logged on my 70 shaman, who sits by the mailbox 24/7, today, for the first time in a week. Within 90 seconds of POW, I had 2 gold beggers. I swear, they're worse than the gold sellers. |
| 07:34.03 | Osstia|mac | preTBC i used to get people ALL the time inviting me to groups on my rogue |
| 07:34.16 | Osstia|mac | and trying to have full-on conversations with me in chinese |
| 07:34.31 | Osstia|mac | I guess i appeared to be a farmer |
| 07:34.32 | KivinSan | Then some stupid douche 70 hunter gives each of them 10G after I tell them to go fuck themselves. Excuse my french. |
| 07:34.58 | KivinSan | "I felt sorry for them, bless their hearts" she says to me |
| 07:35.24 | marco0009 | I saw some fool 'loan' 500g to some random person. They actually expected to have it paid back too. |
| 07:35.25 | Osstia|mac | what a dumbass |
| 07:35.51 | KivinSan | Sometimes I miss Eve-Online, where people actually value their money enough to not give it away, and beggers are non-existant |
| 07:36.16 | KivinSan | you harass me for gold, I shoot you. And everyone is okay with that. |
| 07:36.23 | bigzero | application to some guild: "-Amory link and a screenshot of your current UI in a raiding environment." Why is UI layout so important anyway? Different people work better with differnt ui's |
| 07:36.37 | Orionshock | bigzero: sanity check |
| 07:36.54 | KivinSan | bigzero: I'd be seriously concerned if, say, a healer applied for my kara and couldn't see raid unit frames |
| 07:37.05 | KivinSan | And had one bar of action buttons |
| 07:37.18 | marco0009 | Bah. I play with my bars hidden. |
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| 07:37.26 | Osstia|mac | I could |
| 07:37.29 | bigzero | right, but they require SSC and TK experience and gear...i doubt you can get that if your ui sucks that bad |
| 07:37.34 | Osstia|mac | everything i do is key bindings |
| 07:37.53 | bigzero | seriously, for a healer you have like 6 spells |
| 07:37.54 | Osstia|mac | but I don't. My UI is actually quite sloppy |
| 07:38.03 | KivinSan | I'd do a UI check for my kara, but it's just not worth it. The only mandatory thing is that everyone has Threat-1.0 |
| 07:38.40 | KivinSan | SpamGuard: sdlkfdklzxj has been blocked for a spam violation. |
| 07:38.44 | KivinSan | Ahhh, that makes me feel good inside. |
| 07:38.45 | bigzero | for a mage it's even better...i could raid with 2 buttons and gem, pot, bandage button |
| 07:38.48 | Osstia|mac | You run a guild kara? or a PUG group? |
| 07:38.48 | chexsum | and bigwigs |
| 07:39.04 | KivinSan | osstia: Newish guild, brand new Kara that hasn't run yet. |
| 07:39.17 | Osstia|mac | cool |
| 07:39.29 | KivinSan | A lot of them are either fresh 70s or old timers that haven't ever had the experience |
| 07:39.42 | Vexir | What elixirs can a 375 Elixir Master make to make some money? I'm not sure what sells well, I haven't been an alchemist long enough. |
| 07:39.44 | KivinSan | So it's going to be a big leap backwards for me, since my current raid is up to prince |
| 07:39.49 | chexsum | make sure you have shackles :P |
| 07:39.55 | bigzero | Vexir, flasks, agi eixirs |
| 07:40.04 | KivinSan | We just went as far as opera tonight without a single priest o.O |
| 07:40.05 | bigzero | pretty much it...maybe mageblood |
| 07:40.10 | KivinSan | but yeah, i want at the very least a shadow priest |
| 07:40.24 | Vexir | dont have mageblood, is it a tradeable recipe? |
| 07:40.30 | Osstia|mac | what class do you raid with? |
| 07:40.39 | bigzero | Vexir, healing power is too cheap to make money off of |
| 07:40.46 | Fin | it's a very rare drop, BoP I believe |
| 07:40.51 | KivinSan | 70 Resto Shaman. I'm going to be doing 70 Prot/Ret Pala for my new group |
| 07:41.06 | Osstia|mac | wasn't ageblood a ZG rep based recipe? |
| 07:41.07 | KivinSan | Ret as much as possible, but probably tanking to get the group spooled up |
| 07:41.10 | bigzero | I think it's boe..i've seen someone sell it |
| 07:41.21 | Fin | major mageblood isn't |
| 07:41.23 | Vexir | i can only make two flasks , wisdom and restoration , neither sell well i think |
| 07:41.36 | theoddone33 | my grid screws up minorly with hunters in my group whose pets have the same name |
| 07:41.37 | bigzero | resto might |
| 07:41.37 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:41.49 | Fin | I take it back, it's not BoP |
| 07:41.54 | Osstia|mac | I make money transmuting diamonds, but thats about it |
| 07:42.00 | Osstia|mac | on my alch |
| 07:42.03 | KivinSan | the guild I was going to join for SSC on my server requires every healer to have a resto flask ready 4 times a week |
| 07:42.09 | Fin | it's a world drop, though |
| 07:42.10 | bigzero | alchemy is screwed up...on my server imo |
| 07:42.27 | bigzero | noone even asks me for prices when i do /2 wts ... |
| 07:42.50 | Fin | I would kill for that recipe |
| 07:42.55 | Vexir | KivinSan: most of the healers on our server use mageblood/healingpower combo |
| 07:43.05 | KivinSan | enchanting is a no-profit operation on my server |
| 07:43.23 | bigzero | selling mats is what makes the money |
| 07:43.28 | KivinSan | for a while, i used to try to sell stuff for cost of mats plus 3-5% and that never flew with people. i was always too greedy |
| 07:43.29 | Osstia|mac | yep |
| 07:43.43 | Fin | I use Draenic Wisdom + Blackened Sporefish |
| 07:43.44 | bigzero | i'm pretty much always enchanting when i get on, but the tips are not that huge |
| 07:43.44 | KivinSan | then i put the mats on the AH and sold stuff for mats + 10% of mat cost, and THAT flew :P |
| 07:44.00 | KivinSan | I don't have any kara+ enchants, though |
| 07:44.02 | Fin | but I have quite a lot of mp5 anyway |
| 07:44.42 | marco0009 | ckknight: Were you able to find out why its not working? |
| 07:44.56 | KivinSan | I love these knobs that think spamming the gold spammers is some sort of retribution to them. |
| 07:44.59 | Fin | KivinSan: there's always something you can make money on, though |
| 07:45.02 | bigzero | most requested enhants: resilience to chest, stam to boots, bracers, dexterity, then the weapon chants |
| 07:45.08 | KivinSan | Fin: not a significant amount of money |
| 07:45.12 | Osstia|mac | of topic question for ya, if I wanted to write mod with a timer is there a library i could use for it? I want to have a timer with a bar similar to ct_buffmmod, or deadly boss mod's timers |
| 07:45.17 | Vexir | is there an addon that lets me change nameplate text |
| 07:45.18 | Fin | I betcha there is something |
| 07:45.23 | KivinSan | osstia_: LibRockTimer :p |
| 07:45.24 | Fin | Aloft, Vexir |
| 07:45.30 | KivinSan | oh wait |
| 07:45.32 | Vexir | ty |
| 07:45.40 | KivinSan | dbm... hmm |
| 07:45.41 | Vexir | er, nameplate text font i mean |
| 07:45.48 | Fin | Aloft |
| 07:45.50 | Osstia|mac | I have 12k gold, and have never sold an item for more than 150g |
| 07:45.52 | KivinSan | aloft |
| 07:45.56 | Vexir | whats the difference between NatureEnemyCastBar and DBM/BigWigs? |
| 07:46.07 | Fin | one is a castbar, one is not |
| 07:46.14 | Fin | I suggest reading the descriptions |
| 07:46.18 | KivinSan | My money comes from dailies (5 on each of my 70s, which takes forever to move two 70s around) and farming nightmare vine, which is worthless on my server |
| 07:46.23 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(65, 66, 67) |
| 07:46.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: ABC, |
| 07:46.37 | Osstia|mac | KivinSan: doesn't need to be exacrly like DBM, just that type bar. witht a texture that slides down as the timer counts down |
| 07:46.48 | marco0009 | Osstia|mac: Candybar-2.0 |
| 07:46.53 | marco0009 | You can retexture |
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| 07:47.39 | KivinSan | I've actually been leveling a third character through Outland just to raise money for my main's epic flight |
| 07:48.00 | Osstia|mac | haha |
| 07:48.05 | bigzero | lol |
| 07:48.20 | KivinSan | 65 and still doesn't have an epic ground mount |
| 07:48.28 | KivinSan | I've diverted 700G to epic flight fund through it :P |
| 07:48.29 | Fin | I plan to have enough money ready for my lock by the time he hits 70 (he's 68 now, and I have about 1.5k saved) |
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| 07:48.42 | Fin | plus I have enough mats stored to respec to Tailoring and get to 350 in one go |
| 07:48.56 | Fin | that was quite expensive |
| 07:49.12 | KivinSan | i should have waited on doing the engi350 grind on my paladin |
| 07:49.26 | Osstia|mac | i have epic flyers on my first 2 70s |
| 07:49.29 | Fin | not keeping engineering? |
| 07:49.30 | KivinSan | though the mote extractor is damn spiffy |
| 07:49.35 | KivinSan | yeah, i am |
| 07:49.42 | bigzero | anyone use Possessions? I'm looking for that just on ace svn...baggins one is no good, since it requires baggins and i don't like it |
| 07:49.44 | Osstia|mac | the netherwing grind makes good money |
| 07:49.57 | KivinSan | osstia: useless money, considering you have to have epic flight to even do the grind |
| 07:50.29 | Osstia|mac | it was good money for my second 70s mount |
| 07:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 07:50.42 | Osstia|mac | but yes, doesn't help for your situation |
| 07:50.44 | NightHawkTheSane | its good money for all the things you want to buy after you get that epic |
| 07:50.48 | KivinSan | The first is still shitty |
| 07:50.50 | Osstia|mac | yep |
| 07:50.51 | Orionshock | Osstia you want something even more lazzy , try SickOfClickingDailies on the SVN |
| 07:51.02 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, its really not that bad getting an epic anymore |
| 07:51.03 | KivinSan | I leveled herbalism to 375 because herbs were going for a shit ton, then they all depreciated |
| 07:51.26 | KivinSan | Felweed 5G for 20. Fel Lotus 20 G from 37. Nightmare Vine 16-18G from 35G |
| 07:51.33 | KivinSan | Netherbloom 20G |
| 07:51.36 | bigzero | Orionshock, what daily requires that much clicking anyway? |
| 07:51.48 | Orionshock | 3 months of doing them :P |
| 07:52.02 | Orionshock | day in and day out, |
| 07:52.03 | bigzero | but you could say that about any quest |
| 07:52.20 | Orionshock | login, do ogrila dailies, fly to skettis, do the 2 there , logout |
| 07:52.44 | Orionshock | Login the next day do the 2 at skettis , fly to ogrila, do those ones , log out |
| 07:52.52 | Orionshock | repeat till dead... |
| 07:53.13 | KivinSan | at least you aren't endlessly farming cryptic pages in Sillithus |
| 07:53.25 | Orionshock | ... i hate silithus |
| 07:53.27 | KivinSan | I did that for about a year straight |
| 07:53.38 | KivinSan | 40 pages a day, never failed |
| 07:53.43 | marco0009 | Or putting up with the masses of people farming Tyr's Hand |
| 07:53.50 | marco0009 | That crap sucked |
| 07:53.58 | Vexir | how do i get the InFlight bar to not show up? quartz is already doing it |
| 07:54.05 | Orionshock | one day , pvp server, we where doing summons . minding our own biz.. and a r14 pvp pally / warrior begin to camp us for 2 hrs |
| 07:54.06 | KivinSan | now you fight with the masses of people bombing skettis and ninjaing the prisoner |
| 07:54.14 | bigzero | lol, funny story, the day I hit exalted with the skyguard I find the flight path from the plateu back to skettis.. |
| 07:54.14 | Osstia|mac | wow |
| 07:54.15 | KivinSan | fucking prisoner... he should spawn in multiple places |
| 07:54.26 | Osstia|mac | is atually turning in the dailies enough of a chore to need that? |
| 07:54.38 | Fin | need ~= want |
| 07:55.04 | marco0009 | Ya, but you don't typically get camped for hours because someone decides to gank you in Skettis. In Tyr's Hand they'd just wait till you had a few mobs on you and then boom dead :/ |
| 07:55.05 | Fin | and, that's a bit of a silly question, because it was obviously enough of a chore for him to write the addon in the first place |
| 07:55.08 | Fin | no offence like |
| 07:55.47 | KivinSan | If you saw some of the 10 line addons i have running, or have had running in the past :P |
| 07:55.51 | bigzero | so the addon autocompletes any quest? or just the dailies? |
| 07:56.13 | Orionshock | KivinSan: my addon lets me ninja the escort with ease and simplicity among 5 alliance all clicking at once.. |
| 07:56.16 | Osstia|mac | from reading, only dailies |
| 07:56.17 | NightHawkTheSane | There's addons that will autoturnin any quest. *shrug* |
| 07:56.39 | Osstia|mac | he builds a table of them |
| 07:56.41 | Fin | there's more than one version of most addons |
| 07:56.54 | Fin | ... except OpenAllBankBAgs! |
| 07:56.56 | KivinSan | thank god for that |
| 07:56.57 | Fin | -shift |
| 07:57.00 | Orionshock | bigzero: only dailies, i got just sick of it for the 3 months i was farming .... |
| 07:57.17 | Fin | OpenAllBankBags is the shit! the shiznizzle! the woowhacker! the here! the now! yay! |
| 07:57.19 | bigzero | oh, auto accept feature too...I see |
| 07:57.24 | KivinSan | the day AlarLib is the only solution to... well... uhh, wrapping the whole WoW API to madness |
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| 07:57.57 | Fin | how dare you speak bad of El Alar |
| 07:58.03 | Fin | punish him! |
| 07:58.03 | Vexir | what is "focus" |
| 07:58.10 | Fin | clarity of mind |
| 07:58.15 | Vexir | ... |
| 07:58.17 | Osstia|mac | smart ass |
| 07:58.17 | Vexir | no |
| 07:58.20 | Vexir | i mean like a focus bar |
| 07:58.24 | Fin | why thank you |
| 07:58.25 | Orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/Focus |
| 07:58.52 | Orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/Focus_target |
| 07:59.11 | Vexir | hm |
| 07:59.12 | bigzero | what's that addon that helps you with the Ogri'la simon says daily? |
| 07:59.16 | Vexir | can anyone give me some in-game uses |
| 07:59.17 | Vexir | for Focus |
| 07:59.24 | bigzero | sheeping |
| 07:59.29 | bigzero | smart way anyway |
| 07:59.40 | Vexir | and as a tank? |
| 07:59.41 | Orionshock | Vexir: try clicking the link and reading |
| 07:59.43 | Osstia|mac | Shackle on moroes |
| 07:59.48 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: Ogri'Lazy? |
| 08:00.15 | Vexir | Orionshock: i did. |
| 08:00.15 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, yeah..thansk |
| 08:00.15 | Vexir | just havent considered all implications yet |
| 08:00.38 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane i was thinking of trying it but opening chat box and typing awsdwas wasn't hard enough |
| 08:00.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeha |
| 08:01.09 | bigzero | and it's not on WAU...oh well |
| 08:01.10 | Fin | http://www.google.com/search?q=focus+uses+in+world+of+warcraft |
| 08:01.12 | NightHawkTheSane | its a neat addon, and not bad. but its not exactly amazingly helpful |
| 08:01.17 | bigzero | Fin, lol |
| 08:01.17 | Fin | I'm not joking |
| 08:01.22 | Fin | really |
| 08:01.55 | Vexir | lolol |
| 08:01.56 | Osstia|mac | I always did a /s ygrbyrg |
| 08:02.08 | bigzero | that's hard |
| 08:02.09 | Osstia|mac | when I was doing the simon says quest |
| 08:02.23 | KivinSan | i often do that in guild, much to the lowbies bemusement and confuddlement |
| 08:02.32 | Osstia|mac | hehe |
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| 08:02.49 | Osstia|mac | or to swich it up udlr instead of yrgb |
| 08:03.01 | Osstia|mac | for up down left right |
| 08:03.01 | KivinSan | udlr? |
| 08:03.04 | KivinSan | oh ;p |
| 08:03.05 | bigzero | i hate when i lose focus during that quest...like i'm chatting with someone and i realize i just missed like 2 colors |
| 08:03.16 | Osstia|mac | yep |
| 08:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | up/down/left/right is ambiguous though ;) |
| 08:03.28 | KivinSan | on my server, the alliance are dinks and will pull mobs on top of you while you're doing simon |
| 08:03.32 | Osstia|mac | it is NightHawkTheSane |
| 08:03.38 | Osstia|mac | but not if you stand still |
| 08:03.43 | Fin | bigzero: haha! yeah I do that all the time |
| 08:03.47 | Fin | that's why I stopped doing it :) |
| 08:03.50 | NightHawkTheSane | bigzero: heh, today i missed the very first one twice in a row becaues i glanced away from the screen :P |
| 08:04.04 | KivinSan | attention span of a goldfish... |
| 08:04.07 | bigzero | lol, yeah, happens to me like every day |
| 08:04.41 | bigzero | the worst part is the stupid dragon that flys over the plateu...ugh |
| 08:05.02 | bigzero | i used to get killed all the time, then i stopped flying that high |
| 08:05.47 | bigzero | and the pathetic part is that i'm a mage with a stack of light feathers on me all the time |
| 08:05.57 | Osstia|mac | have another beer? or go to bed? I hate decision making |
| 08:06.10 | Osstia|mac | haha |
| 08:06.13 | bigzero | have another beer in bed? |
| 08:06.21 | Osstia|mac | hrmmm |
| 08:06.25 | Osstia|mac | that might work |
| 08:06.32 | bigzero | compromise ftw |
| 08:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | have a beer. bed or no bed. :p |
| 08:06.56 | bigzero | on that note, i'm out..night |
| 08:07.03 | Osstia|mac | night |
| 08:07.05 | KivinSan | \o |
| 08:07.41 | Fin | beer |
| 08:07.43 | Fin | I want beer |
| 08:07.57 | Megalon | gosus use 'uuddlrlrabs'! :p |
| 08:08.08 | Megalon | for spamtesting |
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| 08:09.58 | Osstia|mac | okay, beer and a book i think it is |
| 08:10.06 | Osstia|mac | night all |
| 08:10.10 | KivinSan | o/ |
| 08:10.23 | Vexir | how do i center my damn zone-label text in simple mini map |
| 08:10.37 | KivinSan | o.O shouldn't it already be.... |
| 08:10.47 | _neuron_ | quartz doesn't show enemy buffs right? Like clos for example? |
| 08:10.47 | KivinSan | i'm pretty sure it doesn't change that frame, except to show/hide it |
| 08:11.00 | _neuron_ | cuz mine never did, but a friend of mine says his does |
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| 08:11.02 | Vexir | its offset a bit |
| 08:11.04 | Vexir | its annoying |
| 08:11.14 | KivinSan | You'd probably have to change it with a SetPoint :P |
| 08:11.58 | KivinSan | sigh, to finish commenting or not finish commenting SpamGuard |
| 08:15.33 | Vexir | is there a way to increase the max width of frames in pitbull |
| 08:15.45 | Orionshock | Vexir: yes |
| 08:15.48 | KivinSan | other > |
| 08:15.49 | Vexir | how |
| 08:15.50 | KivinSan | uhh |
| 08:16.01 | Vexir | it seems to be capped at 400 |
| 08:16.02 | KivinSan | Other > size |
| 08:16.10 | Vexir | ? |
| 08:16.18 | KivinSan | eww, yes, it does |
| 08:16.29 | Orionshock | ... scale? |
| 08:17.20 | Vexir | that makes it huge |
| 08:17.33 | KivinSan | 400+ _IS_ huge |
| 08:17.39 | Orionshock | ok.... then use H/W to size it to what you want |
| 08:17.44 | Vexir | H/W? |
| 08:18.12 | Zhinjio | Good evening./ |
| 08:18.13 | Hjalte | Is there a crit cap for casters? |
| 08:18.46 | Orionshock | Vexir: height / width |
| 08:18.47 | Vexir | yes, some number if you're a normal caster, 500% if you're a 2 minute mage |
| 08:18.59 | Vexir | Orionshock: you mean the numbers? |
| 08:19.03 | Vexir | Orionshock: the cap seems to be 400 |
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| 08:19.27 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 08:19.31 | marco0009 | There's still an inherent chance to resist that cannot be overcome though. |
| 08:19.33 | Orionshock | noob |
| 08:19.50 | Orionshock | blow up the scale , then use the height width to re size it to what you want |
| 08:19.57 | Vexir | OH |
| 08:20.02 | Vexir | durr =] |
| 08:20.06 | KivinSan | haha |
| 08:20.25 | Vexir | blah |
| 08:20.29 | Vexir | then all the text is still scaled to full |
| 08:20.31 | Vexir | and the icons |
| 08:20.34 | Vexir | =[ |
| 08:21.27 | KivinSan | still don't know why you want 400+ width frames o.O |
| 08:21.33 | KivinSan | I use 215 and i'd consider going a lot lower |
| 08:21.42 | Vexir | want me to sow you? |
| 08:21.44 | Vexir | *show |
| 08:21.47 | KivinSan | *shrug* sure |
| 08:21.52 | Vexir | been working on this UI for like 3 days |
| 08:21.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll sow YOU |
| 08:21.59 | Vexir | cant seem to get pitbull to get it right |
| 08:22.08 | Vexir | NightHawkTheSane: /cry i ph3ar needlz |
| 08:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i said sow, not sew |
| 08:22.29 | Vexir | oh |
| 08:22.31 | Vexir | uh |
| 08:22.32 | Vexir | plows? |
| 08:22.34 | Vexir | lol |
| 08:24.20 | Vexir | is there a way to adjust the opacity of pitbull frames? |
| 08:24.49 | KivinSan | maybe by changing the colours all manually? health, power, etc |
| 08:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a combatfader module, you could try fiddling with that |
| 08:25.07 | KivinSan | oh, he has useAlpha set to false |
| 08:25.13 | KivinSan | nope, you're screwed |
| 08:25.16 | Fin | seriously: http://www.google.com/search?q=pitbull+frames+opacity |
| 08:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | fin, i think i love you. |
| 08:25.44 | Vexir | but but but thats what IRC IS FOR |
| 08:25.53 | Vexir | no its true, i got lazy, sorry, ill google first |
| 08:27.14 | Vexir | apparantly there isnt a solution, disregarding the combatfader thing since i have that turned off |
| 08:27.17 | Vexir | oh well |
| 08:27.20 | Orionshock | oh the ignorant fools of the masses that cry "Addons can hack your account"... i weep for them |
| 08:27.24 | KivinSan | <- hates combatFader |
| 08:27.33 | Fin | you could probably dim them with MoveIt |
| 08:27.41 | Fin | Pitbull would probably fight it though somehow |
| 08:28.09 | Fin | yeah, I never got CombatFader working properly either |
| 08:28.10 | KivinSan | I've read every line of pitBull and couldn't even begin to guess the implications of changing anything about it externally |
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| 08:28.40 | Fin | all I managed to do was make various unit frames constantly switch between fully opaque and semi-transparent |
| 08:29.01 | Fin | but then it's not my fault I was born with less chromosomes than you |
| 08:29.39 | Fin | c'est l'Adys! |
| 08:29.55 | KivinSan | Do I have to escape a $ in Lua patterns? |
| 08:29.55 | Adys | C'est l'Adys qui n'arrete pas de deconnecter |
| 08:30.04 | Fin | mais oui! |
| 08:30.12 | Fin | fantastique |
| 08:30.14 | Fin | magnifique! |
| 08:30.15 | Killmore | omg francais |
| 08:30.25 | Fin | oui, c'est le francais |
| 08:30.27 | Megalon | it's wrong to be french |
| 08:30.56 | Fin | the french march forward on Megalon! victory is assured. |
| 08:31.14 | Xinhuan | lua> tostring(-0) |
| 08:31.14 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: -0, |
| 08:31.17 | Xinhuan | lua> tostring(0) |
| 08:31.17 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0, |
| 08:31.17 | Killmore | vous êtes de france ? |
| 08:31.25 | Xinhuan | lua> tostring(-0) == tostring(0) |
| 08:31.25 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
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| 08:31.28 | Xinhuan | wtf? |
| 08:31.42 | KivinSan | o.o |
| 08:31.46 | Fin | everything in Lua is strings at the beginning, isn't it? |
| 08:31.47 | Cheads | uhhuh |
| 08:31.50 | Zhinjio | mathematically correct |
| 08:31.51 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:31.52 | KivinSan | lua> "-0" == "0" |
| 08:31.52 | lua_bot | KivinSan: false |
| 08:32.05 | Xinhuan | lua> type(tostring(-0)) |
| 08:32.05 | KivinSan | weird |
| 08:32.05 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: string, |
| 08:32.08 | Xinhuan | lua> type(tostring(0)) |
| 08:32.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: string, |
| 08:32.14 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 08:32.20 | Megalon | automatic typcasting back to number? |
| 08:32.27 | Zhinjio | seems like it, don't it. |
| 08:32.28 | Xinhuan | i don't think == does that |
| 08:32.38 | Zhinjio | does "==" force typecasting? |
| 08:32.39 | KivinSan | it should compare string pointers |
| 08:32.42 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.00 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = tonumber(0); local b = tonumber(-0); print(type(a)); print(type(b)); print(a); print(b); print(a == b); |
| 08:34.01 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: number, number, 0, 0, true |
| 08:34.16 | NightHawkTheSane | YOu know, i think my cider is on the verge of turning into vinegar |
| 08:34.21 | Fin | lua> 0.00 == tostring(0) |
| 08:34.21 | lua_bot | Fin: false |
| 08:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | or, at the last, slightly hard cider |
| 08:34.23 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = tostring(0); local b = tostring(-0); print(type(a)); print(type(b)); print(a); print(b); print(a == b); |
| 08:34.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: string, string, 0, 0, true |
| 08:34.34 | Fin | "Number represents real (double-precision floating-point) numbers." |
| 08:34.47 | Xinhuan | ok i don't get it |
| 08:34.50 | Vexir | This is the UI ive been working on, and why I needed insanely long frames in pitbull: http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508002854pl2.jpg |
| 08:34.56 | Vexir | tell me how i can improve upon it! |
| 08:34.57 | Vexir | :) |
| 08:35.22 | KivinSan | omg make the insanely long frames go away |
| 08:35.28 | Vexir | =P |
| 08:35.50 | KivinSan | i don't like how the horizontal artwork overlaps the square artwork in the center |
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| 08:36.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: erm, what i bet is happening there is that the -0 is being evaluated as a number first (evaluating to just 0) then being converted into a string? |
| 08:36.08 | Xinhuan | i don't know? |
| 08:36.14 | Xinhuan | i'm debugging something in acecomm |
| 08:36.20 | Vexir | KivinSan: they're just eeFrames |
| 08:36.20 | Xinhuan | and came across something i wanted to check |
| 08:36.33 | Vexir | i'll change that but first i need to a/ find out how to make pitbull work |
| 08:36.35 | KivinSan | Vexir: I know. But I still think the horizontal one shouldn't overlap the square one |
| 08:36.37 | Vexir | aesthetically |
| 08:36.43 | Vexir | yeah ill change that |
| 08:36.51 | Vexir | but im not sure what to do with the pitbull frames =\ |
| 08:37.37 | KivinSan | Branch PitBull and change the config menu :P |
| 08:38.17 | KivinSan | I'm guessing the frames internally can support width > 400, it's just hard coded into the config as <=400 |
| 08:38.39 | Vexir | also |
| 08:38.46 | Vexir | where could i possibly put the party frames? =\ |
| 08:39.03 | KivinSan | do you heal? tank? |
| 08:39.04 | KivinSan | raid? |
| 08:39.42 | Vexir | i raid |
| 08:39.46 | Vexir | and i am a tank |
| 08:39.53 | Vexir | but i also do a lot of 5 mans |
| 08:39.57 | Vexir | else i would just use grid |
| 08:40.02 | KivinSan | Do you need to be able to see 5, 10, or 25 units? |
| 08:40.04 | NightHawkTheSane | grid can do 5 mans |
| 08:40.08 | Vexir | 25\ |
| 08:40.14 | Codayus | Grid is all you need for 5 man, I think. |
| 08:40.33 | Codayus | For a tank in 25...not sure you even need grid. Player, target, ToT. The end. :-) |
| 08:40.36 | Vexir | oh, cool |
| 08:40.38 | Vexir | haha |
| 08:40.44 | Vexir | yeah i dont need grid in 25 mans |
| 08:40.45 | KivinSan | Raise the buff bar thing up and put 25 very thin frames along the right side |
| 08:41.12 | Vexir | my debuffs are on that side |
| 08:41.18 | Vexir | eh ill move them to the left |
| 08:42.15 | KivinSan | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2967/raidframestc2.jpg that's my raid setup, though you could well make the frames a lot smaller |
| 08:42.33 | KivinSan | I only do ten mans, so it looks a lot cleaner than that |
| 08:43.29 | Vexir | lol wow all your screen seems taken up |
| 08:43.43 | KivinSan | like i said, ten mans |
| 08:43.54 | KivinSan | count ten of those frames and ignore all the rest, they aren't visible |
| 08:44.15 | Vexir | i do 25's =\ |
| 08:44.25 | KivinSan | then make the frames considerably smaller |
| 08:44.28 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = tostring(0); local b = tostring(-0); print(type(a)); print(type(b)); print(#a); print(#b); print(a); print(b); print(a == b); |
| 08:44.28 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: string, string, 1, 1, 0, 0, true |
| 08:44.46 | theoddone33 | gareth emery woot |
| 08:44.51 | Xinhuan | lua> #tostring(-0) |
| 08:44.51 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2 |
| 08:45.01 | KivinSan | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1848/normalframeshb2.jpg that's my out of raid setup |
| 08:45.56 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = tostring(-0) print(#a) |
| 08:45.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2 |
| 08:46.03 | Xinhuan | smashes head |
| 08:46.30 | Megalon | at least it's consist... ;/ |
| 08:46.35 | Xinhuan | no its not |
| 08:46.39 | Vexir | man |
| 08:46.43 | Vexir | i dont know where to put my buff bars |
| 08:46.45 | Vexir | =\ |
| 08:46.55 | KivinSan | lua> local a = tostring(-1); print(a); a = tostring(-0); print(a) |
| 08:46.55 | lua_bot | KivinSan: -1, -0 |
| 08:47.22 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = tostring(-0) print(#a) local b = tostring(0) print(#b) print(a) print(b) |
| 08:47.22 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2, 2, -0, -0 |
| 08:47.22 | Xinhuan | [1/5 16:47:14] <lua_bot> Xinhuan: 2, 2, -0, -0 |
| 08:47.25 | Xinhuan | see? |
| 08:47.29 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 08:47.40 | KivinSan | lua> local a = tostring(-1); print(a); a = tostring(-0); print(a == "-0"); print(a == "-1") |
| 08:47.40 | lua_bot | KivinSan: -1, true, false |
| 08:47.42 | Xinhuan | it compiles the chunk and simplified the result to the first call |
| 08:48.00 | Megalon | ah |
| 08:48.03 | Megalon | xinhuan |
| 08:48.10 | Megalon | lua> local a = tostring(0); local b = tostring(-0); print(type(a)); print(type(b)); print(#a); print(#b); print(a); print(b); print(a == b); |
| 08:48.10 | lua_bot | Megalon: string, string, 1, 1, 0, 0, true |
| 08:48.15 | Megalon | lua> local b = tostring(-0); local a = tostring(0); print(type(a)); print(type(b)); print(#a); print(#b); print(a); print(b); print(a == b); |
| 08:48.15 | lua_bot | Megalon: string, string, 2, 2, -0, -0, true |
| 08:48.23 | Megalon | ... |
| 08:48.24 | Megalon | ;/ |
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| 08:49.18 | Vexir | you know what |
| 08:49.21 | Megalon | i think lua checks if the number values are equal, and decides on that if the strings point to the same |
| 08:49.22 | Vexir | with the way I have my UI set up |
| 08:49.27 | Vexir | the blizzard cast bar works QUITE nicely |
| 08:49.51 | Vexir | gonna disable quartz, i dont understand how to configure it anyway |
| 08:49.56 | Vexir | doesnt seem to have many options |
| 08:50.05 | Orionshock | aahhh |
| 08:50.10 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r57906 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua: |
| 08:50.10 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 08:50.10 | CIA-8 | - color sidelist entries the same as the notes' titles |
| 08:50.10 | CIA-8 | - increase note title indent because it looks better |
| 08:50.25 | Orionshock | anyone have a simple hyper link handler they can link me to? |
| 08:50.27 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:50.32 | KivinSan | hover link? |
| 08:50.35 | KivinSan | hyper* |
| 08:50.37 | KivinSan | hmm |
| 08:50.56 | Orionshock | no code side, i want to add that shift click to link to my addon |
| 08:51.02 | Vexir | http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508002854pl2.jpg <---- can anyone tell me wtf to do with those pitbull frames i dont know how to make them work |
| 08:52.07 | KivinSan | i'm not sure what you're trying to do, Orionshock |
| 08:52.39 | Orionshock | im wanting to add that "Shift Click to Link" idea to my addon... |
| 08:53.25 | KivinSan | you want to synthesize an item link by shift clicking a frame? |
| 08:54.13 | KivinSan | Okay... what are you shift clicking. Precisely. |
| 08:54.39 | Orionshock | you know, you open the edit box, and you shift click an item into it |
| 08:54.52 | KivinSan | that's exactly what i just said |
| 08:54.56 | KivinSan | here's how lootzor does it: |
| 08:55.06 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.15 | KivinSan | http://ace.pastey.net/80080 |
| 08:55.19 | KivinSan | lines 3 through |
| 08:55.26 | KivinSan | 9, i guess |
| 08:55.55 | KivinSan | obj.element.link = ("item:%d:0:0:0:0:0:0:0"):format(element.id) |
| 08:56.12 | KivinSan | local r, g, b, color = GetItemQualityColor(element.quality) |
| 08:56.35 | Orionshock | working with craft links |
| 08:56.49 | Orionshock | and all i have is the number after "enchant:" |
| 08:57.12 | KivinSan | exact same link format, with all the zero colons, IIRC |
| 08:57.20 | Vexir | KivinSan: think i found what to do with my pitbull frames |
| 08:57.23 | KivinSan | enchant:3000:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 |
| 08:57.26 | KivinSan | Vexir: what's that |
| 08:57.47 | Vexir | KivinSan: ill show you in a second - im trying to find where to put my buffs, debuffs, target debuffs, and omen |
| 08:57.48 | KivinSan | vexir, btw, i was being serious about branching pitbull and changing the config :P |
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| 08:57.53 | Vexir | haha |
| 08:58.00 | Vexir | if only i knew LUA |
| 08:58.00 | krka | Vexir: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 08:58.07 | KivinSan | lol krka |
| 08:58.15 | Vexir | ... |
| 08:58.18 | KivinSan | Vexir: do a search of pitbull.lua for '400', it can't be in there that many times |
| 08:58.23 | Vexir | haha |
| 08:58.26 | Vexir | no no, dont worry |
| 08:58.29 | KivinSan | Ck doesn't duplicate code much |
| 08:58.29 | Vexir | i made them smaller |
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| 08:59.00 | KivinSan | Orionshock: does that help? |
| 08:59.24 | Orionshock | yes |
| 08:59.25 | Orionshock | thanks |
| 08:59.32 | KivinSan | okay |
| 09:00.25 | Orionshock | now the next question is does anyone know off hand how to get the itemlink off a tool tip easily? |
| 09:00.32 | KivinSan | Hmmm |
| 09:00.54 | KivinSan | don't suppose it's so easy as :GetHyperlink? |
| 09:01.05 | KivinSan | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_GetItem |
| 09:01.12 | KivinSan | returns Item name, ItemLink |
| 09:01.24 | KivinSan | probably cross compatible with tradelinks |
| 09:01.57 | KivinSan | testing that theory now |
| 09:02.33 | KivinSan | i stand corrected, that doesn't work for trade links |
| 09:03.09 | KivinSan | :GetSpell() returns the trade name "Enchant Shield - Intellect", but not an itemlink to it |
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| 09:04.48 | KivinSan | none of the immediate members of ItemRefTooltip have the link in them |
| 09:05.10 | chexsum | keep a cache of itemlinks maybe |
| 09:05.28 | KivinSan | best fit solution i can think of? hook SetHyperlink and store the most recent |
| 09:05.36 | Sole | this is weird, my fps is like 20-25 when its usually 60+ |
| 09:05.51 | Vexir | can EBB be set to wrap the bars so that at a certain number it'll begin a new colum? |
| 09:05.53 | Vexir | *column |
| 09:05.54 | Sole | turned off all addons, all but the necessary processes as well |
| 09:05.58 | Sole | still the same -_- |
| 09:06.17 | KivinSan | turn your camera so you're looking right at wall |
| 09:06.44 | KivinSan | if it doesn't significantly go up, something is stealing your cpu time |
| 09:06.49 | Sole | unchanged |
| 09:06.57 | KivinSan | =X |
| 09:07.03 | chexsum | its the weekend more people are playing ? |
| 09:07.09 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 09:07.12 | KivinSan | shouldn't change framerate |
| 09:07.12 | Sole | Im in the level 1 starter zone |
| 09:07.14 | NeoTron | drdamage doesnt' handle haste :( |
| 09:07.16 | Sole | I already thought of that :P |
| 09:07.29 | NeoTron | doesn't at all take into account the changed cast times |
| 09:07.30 | chexsum | is fraps running ? :P |
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| 09:07.39 | Sole | nope |
| 09:07.47 | Sole | I have 28 processes running |
| 09:08.36 | Vexir | sole: what kind of computer? |
| 09:08.59 | Sole | Vexir: good enough to have run WoW at 60+ fps constantly :P |
| 09:09.26 | Vexir | no i mean what kind of processor, what OS, etc |
| 09:09.38 | Vexir | wait nevermind |
| 09:09.43 | Vexir | its not an old issue is it |
| 09:09.46 | Vexir | its just recently started? |
| 09:09.57 | Sole | I only noticed it tonight |
| 09:10.07 | chexsum | would upgrading a single gt8800 to sli 8800 or upgrading 533? mhz ram to 800? mhz ram improve a computer more ? |
| 09:10.08 | Sole | but then again I havent played in like a week |
| 09:10.21 | Sole | Im gonna go with the sli |
| 09:10.26 | chexsum | when running wow :P |
| 09:10.39 | Sole | nothing if youre running a 8800 |
| 09:10.49 | Sole | should be max settings already anyway |
| 09:10.57 | Vexir | chexsum: chances are you wont notice the difference between 3523423 FPS and 3435436245246 FPS, so no |
| 09:11.07 | chexsum | fraps slows me down a bit |
| 09:11.21 | Vexir | fraps limits your framerate |
| 09:11.26 | chexsum | fraps slows me to 30fps |
| 09:11.27 | Vexir | it WILL slow you down on purpose |
| 09:11.29 | chexsum | oh |
| 09:11.30 | Vexir | yeah |
| 09:11.36 | Vexir | so it can shoot the video at 30 FPS |
| 09:11.38 | Sole | fast ram is always good though :) |
| 09:11.49 | Vexir | fast ram = important for WoW more than GPU |
| 09:11.57 | Sole | yep |
| 09:12.16 | Sole | 2gb 800mhz ram made a huge difference to me |
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| 09:13.01 | Sole | hmm I did recently change my keyboard and mouse |
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| 09:14.12 | Sole | I doubt that would slow me down though |
| 09:14.58 | KivinSan | Sigh, some people... |
| 09:15.11 | Orionshock | what's the ASCII code for the pipe " | " ? |
| 09:15.18 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.29 | KivinSan | ./script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this link to put into chat: \124cffffffff\124Hitem:32569:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Apexis Shard]\124h\124r"); |
| 09:15.34 | KivinSan | straight off wowhead |
| 09:15.51 | KivinSan | Someone asks in trade what everyone thinks is the fastest class+spec to level. I reply BM Hunter. |
| 09:16.03 | KivinSan | Some knob starts flaming me in tell that hunters are so BOOOOOOORING and i'm a retard to play one |
| 09:16.06 | KivinSan | btw i'm on a 70 shaman |
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| 09:18.02 | Orionshock | fk... |
| 09:18.09 | Orionshock | can't conjor up a item link... |
| 09:18.16 | KivinSan | item or trade? |
| 09:18.24 | Orionshock | craft link that is |
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| 09:18.35 | KivinSan | let me screw around with it a bit |
| 09:18.39 | Orionshock | i'd have to push it to a tooltip, read the name then try to make a link |
| 09:18.41 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 09:19.05 | Sole | teehee thats mroe like it, just needed a restart and now Im back to 70 fps |
| 09:19.08 | Orionshock | bitch of it is that it must be dynamic |
| 09:19.16 | Vexir | KivinSan: ok , updated UI... the eePanels are a bit hard to see because of the ground, but oh well |
| 09:19.25 | Sole | I guess playing a game like The Witcher for a few hours can bog the computer down a bit |
| 09:19.26 | Vexir | http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508011500rx5.jpg |
| 09:19.53 | Vexir | why would the amount of time you play something change how the computer runs it ? (not counting thermal grease heat cycles n stuff) |
| 09:20.08 | Sole | coz the witcher has memory leaks |
| 09:20.11 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.11 | Sole | and it crashed a couple times |
| 09:20.57 | Sole | vexir: do you like the druid class? thinking of leveling one |
| 09:21.05 | KivinSan | Orionshock: Are you processing the correct color? |
| 09:21.08 | Vexir | Sole: Best class in the game. |
| 09:21.14 | Vexir | role one NOW. |
| 09:21.19 | KivinSan | Orionshock: Links become unsafe and unsuable if the color doesn't match |
| 09:21.20 | Vexir | *roll |
| 09:21.20 | Orionshock | same color all the time |
| 09:21.32 | Orionshock | guarrenteed |
| 09:21.37 | Vexir | WTB input on my UI: http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508011500rx5.jpg |
| 09:21.40 | KivinSan | because it should come before \124H |
| 09:21.46 | KivinSan | and I don't see it in your pattern |
| 09:21.52 | Sole | Vexir: is it really that great? :P |
| 09:22.03 | Vexir | Sole: Druids? yes. |
| 09:22.15 | Vexir | we can do everything, and we can do it all better than you. except dps. |
| 09:22.27 | Sole | it does appeal to my playstyle of being crafty :) |
| 09:22.34 | Vexir | ? |
| 09:22.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: druids are very fun :) |
| 09:22.38 | Vexir | lol what do you mean |
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| 09:23.12 | Sole | In other games I usually opt to play more utility rather than a single role class |
| 09:23.27 | Vexir | i am both |
| 09:23.27 | KivinSan | ./script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this link to put into chat: \124cffffd000\124Henchant:28004\124h[Enchanting: Enchant Weapon - Battlemaster]\124h\124r"); |
| 09:23.33 | Sole | the run-n-heal style of the druid is what I like |
| 09:23.34 | KivinSan | Orionshock: right off wowhead |
| 09:23.38 | Vexir | i tank and innervate and battle rez and support heal, all in one |
| 09:23.43 | Vexir | =D |
| 09:23.52 | Sole | the only problem I can see is its a bit slow to level isnt it? |
| 09:23.55 | Vexir | in heroics i pop my dodge trinket, innervate healer, and keep right on tanking |
| 09:23.57 | Vexir | HAHAHAHAHA NO |
| 09:23.59 | Vexir | druids level SO fast |
| 09:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: not at all |
| 09:24.04 | Vexir | rogues that can heal? are you joking |
| 09:24.08 | Sole | lol |
| 09:24.10 | KivinSan | my 44 druid can almost two shot a lv44 mob. seriously. |
| 09:24.20 | Sole | hmm |
| 09:24.22 | KivinSan | it's like a rogue on crack |
| 09:24.24 | Sole | makes me almost want to play WoW |
| 09:24.26 | Vexir | we're so OP in PvE, wish bear dmg didnt get nurfed |
| 09:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i found it a little annoying pre-30ish |
| 09:24.34 | Vexir | we are teh suck in pvp tho |
| 09:24.39 | Sole | kevin, but whats his gear like? good for his level? |
| 09:24.41 | Vexir | before you get bear its annoying =\ |
| 09:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | but once you get to a decent level, you have basically no down tikme |
| 09:24.43 | KivinSan | Except for Bloomtards |
| 09:24.52 | KivinSan | Sole: lv.30-44 ah greens |
| 09:24.55 | KivinSan | all strength and agi gear |
| 09:25.03 | Vexir | you wanna get instance gear... not ah greens |
| 09:25.11 | Vexir | you can use any rogue gear |
| 09:25.14 | KivinSan | Vexir: I haven't played him since TBC |
| 09:25.18 | Vexir | lawl |
| 09:25.25 | KivinSan | He's quite deprecated |
| 09:25.29 | Vexir | go play him |
| 09:25.32 | Vexir | its worth it |
| 09:25.37 | KivinSan | He's alliance. They smell funny. |
| 09:25.37 | Sole | Vexir: druids are the strongest pvp healers atm |
| 09:25.41 | Sole | Vexir: in 2s and 3s |
| 09:25.42 | KivinSan | ATM |
| 09:25.54 | KivinSan | getting FIXED (not nerfed!!) in 2.3.2 |
| 09:26.08 | Sole | what're they doin to them? |
| 09:26.15 | Sole | Ive stopped keeping up with the times |
| 09:26.26 | KivinSan | Fixing lifebloom so it resets the momentum of it's ticks each time it's recast |
| 09:26.36 | Sole | guessing thats huge? |
| 09:26.39 | KivinSan | that's massive |
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| 09:26.45 | Codayus | Yes, it's a nerf. No, it's not huge. |
| 09:27.08 | Vexir | oh |
| 09:27.10 | Vexir | so |
| 09:27.12 | Vexir | recasting it |
| 09:27.12 | Sole | Vexir: your interface aint bad but the 3d portraits of the zoomed in eyes annoy me |
| 09:27.12 | KivinSan | I've seen bloomtards in BG's tank 3 people flawlessly in normal form |
| 09:27.16 | Vexir | doesnt keep its potency? |
| 09:27.19 | KivinSan | right |
| 09:27.22 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.22 | Vexir | Sole: really? |
| 09:27.27 | Orionshock | there we go.... |
| 09:27.29 | Vexir | Sole: hmm... i kind of think its neat |
| 09:27.35 | KivinSan | :D |
| 09:27.36 | Sole | Vexir: yeah theyre stupid and I see no point to it :P |
| 09:27.43 | KivinSan | Orionshock:if you need more working examples, just wowhead the enchantment |
| 09:27.44 | Vexir | aesthetic appeal |
| 09:27.51 | KivinSan | click the "get in game link" at the top |
| 09:27.52 | Vexir | theres no point in the eeFrames the way i have them set up either |
| 09:28.36 | Sole | eePanels add grouping to an interface |
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| 09:29.44 | Vexir | Sole: the portrait of the target helps me visually identify the target, which MAY (probably not) be better than reading it AT QUICK GLANCE |
| 09:29.55 | Vexir | for instance when im tab target tanking with swipe/lacerate |
| 09:29.58 | Paene | Is afflicted actually anywhere on the svn? |
| 09:30.03 | Vexir | i know which target visually i am lacerating |
| 09:30.15 | KivinSan | Portraits help me, too, a bit |
| 09:30.23 | KivinSan | I get moody when people insist on using wands in my groups |
| 09:31.02 | KivinSan | God... first aran attempt... whole raid was gnomes |
| 09:31.30 | Vexir | <-- horde |
| 09:31.35 | Vexir | no gnomes ftw |
| 09:31.37 | Sole | Vexir: the zoom on the eyes isn't needed thats all |
| 09:31.43 | KivinSan | Vexir: gnome wands |
| 09:31.54 | KivinSan | Vexir: it was right after the halloween event |
| 09:31.56 | Vexir | why would people use wands on Aran |
| 09:31.58 | Vexir | oh |
| 09:32.01 | Vexir | rightright |
| 09:32.16 | Vexir | i thought you meant like... |
| 09:32.16 | KivinSan | Vexir: They got a mouthful of rant from me and went back to normal form :P |
| 09:32.20 | Vexir | dmg wands.. |
| 09:32.23 | KivinSan | nah |
| 09:32.26 | Orionshock | it worked! |
| 09:32.31 | KivinSan | wewt |
| 09:32.42 | KivinSan | Love it when that happens. I don't get things right often. |
| 09:32.51 | Vexir | the one problem with my UI that i see |
| 09:33.00 | Vexir | is that during raids when i have 3890498234783927489327 buffs on me |
| 09:33.05 | KivinSan | I was a happy camper when I finally got the chat hook working in SpamGuard |
| 09:33.17 | KivinSan | Vexir: buff/debuff filters |
| 09:33.23 | Sole | I dont like EBB to be honest |
| 09:33.28 | KivinSan | i didn't either |
| 09:33.33 | Vexir | what do you guys use? |
| 09:33.39 | Sole | status bar buff timers take up too much room |
| 09:33.43 | Sole | I use default |
| 09:33.56 | Vexir | o.O blizzards buffs may work well with my UI |
| 09:33.57 | Arrowmaster | i use ElkBuffBar |
| 09:34.20 | Vexir | is it possible to skin the buff's just like i have my buttons skinned with cyCircled? |
| 09:34.33 | KivinSan | if you go back to my raid ui, you'll notice i only show about 5 buffs/debuffs, the rest get filtered |
| 09:34.35 | KivinSan | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2967/raidframestc2.jpg |
| 09:34.36 | Sole | it should be |
| 09:34.41 | KivinSan | Vexir: you can skin the blizzard buff buttons |
| 09:34.47 | KivinSan | Vexir: with cycircled |
| 09:34.48 | Vexir | KivinSan: using what |
| 09:34.50 | Vexir | oh really? |
| 09:34.52 | Vexir | hmm |
| 09:34.54 | Vexir | let me try |
| 09:34.54 | KivinSan | yarly |
| 09:35.00 | KivinSan | err... with buffallo and cycircled |
| 09:35.06 | Vexir | what is buffalo |
| 09:35.21 | KivinSan | mod that does exactly what the blizzard buff/debuff buttons do |
| 09:35.35 | KivinSan | but breaks them into 3 clusters, weapon tenchs, buffs, debuffs. movable around the screen. skinable. |
| 09:35.56 | Sole | I used buffalo for a long time |
| 09:35.56 | KivinSan | i'll see if i can find a screenshot of my old ui compilation |
| 09:35.57 | Sole | good addon |
| 09:36.07 | Vexir | Sole: you switched to something? |
| 09:36.15 | Sole | yeah I decided I didnt need it anymore |
| 09:36.18 | Sole | so I just went default |
| 09:37.04 | KivinSan | http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/43/wowscrnshot110707024930zs5.jpg |
| 09:37.08 | KivinSan | see the buff buttons at the top |
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| 09:37.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 09:37.25 | KivinSan | sigh. i miss that compilation. wish i hadn't given up on it. |
| 09:37.45 | Sole | so WoWHead has "A character profile system, including the ability to manage multiple alternate profiles, for all you theorycrafters out there!" on the Under Development page for too long |
| 09:37.52 | Sole | Im wondering if they'll ever make it -_- |
| 09:38.19 | KivinSan | I trust Wowhead more to get one working than I do blizzard to make their Armory useful for more than a week on and three weeks off, tbh |
| 09:38.30 | Sole | true that |
| 09:38.53 | Vexir | KivinSan: that looks much better than your current ui |
| 09:39.11 | KivinSan | Vexir: my current UI isn't intended to be pretty. It's a hack job of stuff thrown together |
| 09:39.34 | Sole | how did you move around? |
| 09:39.37 | Sole | your W key is bound |
| 09:39.41 | KivinSan | i'm left handed |
| 09:39.56 | Sole | so left hand mouse? |
| 09:39.59 | KivinSan | yes |
| 09:40.06 | KivinSan | ambidextreous(sp?) mouse |
| 09:40.12 | Sole | so what did you use to move? |
| 09:40.15 | KivinSan | on KivinSimpleDARK i used arrow keys for movement. |
| 09:40.18 | KivinSan | on my current setup, I use IJKL |
| 09:40.19 | Sole | arrow keys? |
| 09:40.24 | KivinSan | yes |
| 09:40.24 | Vexir | im left handed as well, but ive never contemplated a different movement system |
| 09:40.27 | Vexir | intriguing |
| 09:40.36 | KivinSan | IJKL became necessary for PVP |
| 09:40.50 | Sole | your buttons are still somewhat too far off for my liking :P |
| 09:40.51 | KivinSan | In 'SimpleDARK, I had my necessary skills on the left and they went right based on priority |
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| 09:41.04 | Sole | I have all my buttons my mouse or within a finger's reach of wasd |
| 09:41.06 | KivinSan | In my current UI, the necessities are wrapped around IJKL |
| 09:41.20 | Vexir | i think ill use blizzards default for buffs |
| 09:41.32 | Vexir | and pitbull for debuffs |
| 09:41.50 | Vexir | does buffalo need to be installed in order for cycircled to skin blizzards buffs? |
| 09:42.02 | KivinSan | yes |
| 09:42.22 | KivinSan | the good thing is buffalo is exceedingly simple to configure and go |
| 09:42.37 | KivinSan | it basically extends to dragging three frames and locking them |
| 09:43.24 | Vexir | pitbulls buffs dont seem to be moveable |
| 09:43.26 | KivinSan | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4751/omeray1yv8.jpg |
| 09:43.29 | Vexir | creates a problem for me |
| 09:43.29 | KivinSan | that's my current pvp setup |
| 09:43.41 | KivinSan | with all skills within a keypress away and don't require me to take my hand off the movement keys |
| 09:44.00 | Fin | just place them in the same place and they look the same but are more configurable |
| 09:44.08 | Fin | just not anchored to the frame |
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| 09:44.54 | Orionshock | boo keyloger :P http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/39559/svn-1.4.5-setup.exe |
| 09:45.15 | KivinSan | o.O |
| 09:45.23 | Orionshock | LOL |
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| 09:45.45 | Vexir | hmm |
| 09:46.18 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.19 | Vexir | PitBull isn't allowing me to make debuffs start from the left side of the frame... choosing Side->Left only makes them go towards the left starting from the RIGHT side of the frame... |
| 09:46.20 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.22 | Vexir | its very retarded |
| 09:46.23 | KivinSan | Seeing that screenshot of SimpleDARK makes me want to rebuild it now that I've since found most of the culprits of performance loss |
| 09:46.25 | Vexir | anyone have a fix |
| 09:46.42 | KivinSan | Vexir: check *everything* it's in there somewhere |
| 09:46.42 | Orionshock | Vexir: bottom is what you want |
| 09:46.59 | Vexir | bottom? |
| 09:47.05 | Vexir | but that makes it start... from the bottom |
| 09:47.06 | Orionshock | Bottom |
| 09:47.51 | KivinSan | I would love to see some better options for moving the auras around |
| 09:47.52 | Vexir | how is bottom what i want |
| 09:47.58 | Orionshock | ...see what ckknight did with pitbull and how placement works... is that he used standard wow conventions with frameplacements, but the thing about that is that wow has no intuitive-ness about that |
| 09:47.59 | KivinSan | It's such a chore and I can never get them right |
| 09:48.50 | KivinSan | it'd be nice if you could say: Buff Auras: Set TOPRIGHT to TOPLEFT, Grow LEFT then DOWN. |
| 09:49.08 | Vexir | so what do i do =X |
| 09:49.08 | KivinSan | Debuff auras: Set BOTTOMRIGHT to BOTTOMLEFT, Grow LEFT then UP |
| 09:49.14 | KivinSan | 1. |
| 09:49.15 | KivinSan | Panic |
| 09:49.18 | KivinSan | 2. PANIC!! |
| 09:49.21 | Vexir | AHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 09:49.22 | Vexir | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 09:49.25 | Fin | 3. Profit! |
| 09:49.26 | Vexir | kk |
| 09:49.26 | KivinSan | Okay |
| 09:49.30 | Vexir | lawl |
| 09:49.37 | KivinSan | now that you're screaming in terror, delete your WTF folder |
| 09:49.43 | Vexir | *delete* |
| 09:49.51 | Vexir | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 09:49.59 | Fin | ~lawl |
| 09:50.00 | purl | i heard lawl is the sound of someone who has been on IRC too much. see also: roffle. |
| 09:50.08 | KivinSan | ~roffle |
| 09:50.16 | Vexir | whats with the ~ |
| 09:50.24 | Fin | ~~ |
| 09:50.24 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 09:50.33 | KivinSan | ~ is the sound you make when you summon purl from his hiding spot. |
| 09:50.36 | Fin | ~tilde |
| 09:50.37 | purl | from memory, tilde is the thing usually to the left of the one key, or to represent home directory, or next to the enter key on sensible keyboards, or above hash, or probably located in different places on international keyboards but only UK keyboards matter, or the prefix to get ibot/jbot to listen to you |
| 09:50.50 | Fin | ~lol |
| 09:50.51 | purl | rumour has it, lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 09:51.16 | KivinSan | purl, I loled |
| 09:51.16 | purl | You loled? |
| 09:51.16 | Vexir | are there any addons that let me move debuffs and buffs around |
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| 09:51.18 | Vexir | oh wait |
| 09:51.23 | Vexir | thats buffalo isnt it |
| 09:51.29 | KivinSan | yep |
| 09:51.30 | Vexir | ~sex |
| 09:51.31 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 09:51.34 | Vexir | law |
| 09:51.48 | KivinSan | o_O |
| 09:51.48 | Vexir | hahahaha. "uptime" |
| 09:51.50 | KivinSan | O_o |
| 09:51.52 | Vexir | fantastic. |
| 09:52.00 | Vexir | LOL "apt-get install condom" |
| 09:52.19 | KivinSan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.23 | Vexir | lmao |
| 09:52.29 | KivinSan | purl, you're a funny guy. |
| 09:52.30 | purl | I know you are but what am I? |
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| 09:54.01 | Vexir | purl, what is the meaning of life? |
| 09:54.02 | purl | ACTION is the meaning of life to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 09:54.07 | Vexir | OH GOD |
| 09:54.16 | Vexir | the thing new exactly what i sucked at in AP CS class |
| 09:54.18 | Vexir | oh god oh god |
| 09:54.27 | Vexir | time to revert to step 1 |
| 09:56.38 | Vexir | KivinSan: can buffalo do target debuffs too? |
| 09:56.45 | Vexir | you see in my UI screenshot http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508011500rx5.jpg |
| 09:56.50 | KivinSan | Vexir: no |
| 09:57.01 | KivinSan | Vexir: it is only basically a wrapper for the blizzard frames |
| 09:57.03 | Vexir | well i'd like the debuffs to be to the left of my frame and target debuffs to be right of target frame |
| 09:57.06 | Vexir | ah |
| 09:57.14 | Vexir | what addon can? |
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| 09:58.04 | KivinSan | If it were me, I'd probably use pitbull auras and have buffs grow left from the top and debuffs grow left from the bottom |
| 09:58.17 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, around? |
| 09:58.17 | KivinSan | and limit it to 6 or 7 auras, what ever fits well in there |
| 09:58.25 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 09:58.37 | Xinhuan | i've figured out why omen doesn't send threat sometimes |
| 09:58.44 | KivinSan | Vexir: consider changing your DogTag text so you don't get "..." instead of whole strings |
| 09:58.46 | Xinhuan | interested? |
| 09:59.00 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: gief. |
| 09:59.03 | Arrowmaster | tell Antiarc |
| 09:59.11 | Xinhuan | sure antiarc, got time for PMs? |
| 09:59.15 | Antiarc | Sur,e hit me |
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| 10:04.11 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} t[234] = "abc" t[245] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:04.11 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0 |
| 10:04.34 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} t[1] t[234] = "abc" t[245] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:04.34 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "t = {} t[1] t[234] = "abc" t[245] = "abc" print(#t)"]:1: '=' expected near 't' |
| 10:04.42 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} t[1] = "abc" t[234] = "abc" t[245] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:04.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1 |
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| 10:09.02 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} t[1] = "abc" t[3] = "abc" t[2] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:09.02 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 3 |
| 10:09.08 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} t[1] = "abc" t[4] = "abc" t[2] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:09.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4 |
| 10:09.43 | KivinSan | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.48 | KivinSan | lua> t = {} t[1] = "abc" t[4] = "abc" t[2] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:09.48 | lua_bot | KivinSan: 4 |
| 10:10.08 | KivinSan | lua> t = {} t[1] = "abc" t[246] = "abc" t[2] = "abc" print(#t) |
| 10:10.09 | Fin | this is a fascinating conversation people are having with the lua bot |
| 10:10.09 | lua_bot | KivinSan: 2 |
| 10:10.10 | Fin | really |
| 10:10.13 | Fin | fascinating |
| 10:10.23 | KivinSan | perl, you make good conversation |
| 10:10.38 | KivinSan | perl, lua_bot > you |
| 10:10.43 | Fin | [11:10:43] [Freenode] --> There is no such nick perl |
| 10:10.54 | KivinSan | purl* :P |
| 10:11.06 | KivinSan | purl, lua_bot > you |
| 10:11.37 | MoonWolf | hardly |
| 10:11.45 | MoonWolf | lua_bot has not botsnack command |
| 10:11.49 | MoonWolf | ~botsnack |
| 10:11.49 | purl | MoonWolf: thanks |
| 10:12.40 | Vexir | KivinSan: What ...'s were you talking about |
| 10:12.56 | KivinSan | vexir: show me your U I again |
| 10:13.00 | KivinSan | I don't feel like scrolling up |
| 10:13.06 | MoonWolf | lazy ass |
| 10:13.08 | Vexir | http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508011500rx5.jpg |
| 10:13.10 | Vexir | latest screenshots |
| 10:13.11 | KivinSan | uh huh |
| 10:13.13 | Vexir | i removed EBB though |
| 10:13.18 | Fin | purl, tell KivinSan about lua_bot |
| 10:13.19 | Vexir | and added BLizzards default buffs |
| 10:13.41 | KivinSan | Vexir: "player" unitframe, top bar |
| 10:13.44 | KivinSan | V... |
| 10:14.02 | KivinSan | you're trying to do too much with too little realestate. rethink your texts |
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| 10:14.16 | Vexir | what is the orange text? |
| 10:14.19 | Vexir | i havent figured that out. |
| 10:14.29 | KivinSan | your mana? |
| 10:14.41 | Vexir | no its ocnstantly changing |
| 10:14.44 | Vexir | seems to be going down |
| 10:14.48 | Vexir | might be dps |
| 10:15.03 | KivinSan | maybe threat, not dps |
| 10:15.07 | KivinSan | pitbull doesn't have a dps module |
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| 10:15.17 | KivinSan | go into UnitFrame > Texts |
| 10:15.44 | Vexir | yeah it was threat. |
| 10:15.47 | Vexir | ty |
| 10:15.51 | KivinSan | okay, that's one useless thing out of the way |
| 10:15.58 | KivinSan | another suggestion: |
| 10:16.05 | KivinSan | get "tauren" out of the bottom bar |
| 10:16.09 | Nargiddley | the orange text in the unitframes of that screenshot ? |
| 10:16.11 | KivinSan | take druid out too |
| 10:16.18 | Nargiddley | thats missing hp |
| 10:16.22 | KivinSan | Instead, show "70 Vexir" |
| 10:16.28 | KivinSan | with vexir class-colored |
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| 10:16.50 | KivinSan | that'll save more realestate |
| 10:16.50 | Vexir | er |
| 10:17.12 | Vexir | so i would do [Level:DifficultyColor][SmartClass:Name] ? |
| 10:17.22 | KivinSan | I'll get you the dogtag i use for "70 Omeray" |
| 10:17.32 | KivinSan | it's set the "Long" |
| 10:17.32 | Vexir | ty |
| 10:17.37 | Vexir | long? |
| 10:17.42 | KivinSan | yes |
| 10:17.47 | KivinSan | in the "style" dropdown |
| 10:17.49 | Vexir | not sure i understood that statment |
| 10:18.04 | KivinSan | Texts > name > style > Long |
| 10:18.04 | Fin | I really do dislike the fact that people have guild-specific shit in the SVN |
| 10:18.13 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, i also figured out why acecomm throws the string_char() invalid error |
| 10:18.14 | Vexir | i see a short style |
| 10:18.17 | Vexir | not a long style |
| 10:18.24 | Vexir | but ill modify Short |
| 10:18.30 | KivinSan | [Level] [Name:ClassColor] [AFKDND:Angle] |
| 10:18.33 | KivinSan | that's the text for Long |
| 10:18.36 | Vexir | kk |
| 10:19.00 | Tem | woooo |
| 10:19.03 | KivinSan | no need for difficulty color because Your level == Your level. it'll always be white |
| 10:19.06 | Tem | we just beat a really good warrior-shammy from our server |
| 10:19.28 | Vexir | got it |
| 10:19.38 | Vexir | ty |
| 10:19.42 | Vexir | now |
| 10:19.46 | Vexir | the only thinng i need |
| 10:19.50 | Vexir | is how to put my debuffs in the right positions |
| 10:19.54 | Vexir | suggestions? |
| 10:19.55 | KivinSan | another suggestion: |
| 10:20.20 | KivinSan | you show | 71.9% at the top, but no percent at the bottom. either don't show percents at all, or make it consistent |
| 10:20.21 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F57499.versanet.de) |
| 10:21.02 | KivinSan | As for the auras... i'd test them myself, but i'm truely affraid of changing them |
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| 10:22.36 | Vexir | well doesn't have to be pitbull |
| 10:23.00 | KivinSan | I think it could be presented best with pitbull. I can't think of any other way to tie it into the UI |
| 10:23.21 | KivinSan | Just because everything is so boundary driven. You don't want auras floating all over the place |
| 10:23.23 | Vexir | pitbulls debuffs look EXACTLY like blizzards, so theres not really anytihng wrong |
| 10:23.25 | Vexir | right but |
| 10:23.41 | Vexir | if i could just somehow get an addon that allowed me to have all the debuffs on a particular thing in a group |
| 10:23.42 | Vexir | and moveable |
| 10:23.45 | Vexir | that would be enough for me |
| 10:23.49 | KivinSan | I just don't know |
| 10:23.52 | Vexir | i could just position it correctly |
| 10:24.09 | KivinSan | Ask Kamdis and Jelly on the macros forum |
| 10:24.35 | Vexir | i could just put them on top |
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| 10:25.28 | Vexir | WAIT |
| 10:25.30 | Vexir | FOUND IT |
| 10:25.32 | Vexir | yes!!!!!! |
| 10:25.40 | Vexir | set the side to Top-Left |
| 10:25.45 | Fin | THAT'S BRILLIANT |
| 10:25.46 | Vexir | direction left and down |
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| 10:25.58 | Vexir | i tried that before but it didnt look right because of the direction |
| 10:25.59 | KivinSan | screenshots or it didn't happen |
| 10:26.00 | HUI | Hi |
| 10:26.05 | Vexir | really? |
| 10:26.13 | Vexir | haha okay ill get you a screenshot, hold on |
| 10:26.21 | KivinSan | X_x |
| 10:26.26 | KivinSan | um, hi |
| 10:26.39 | HUI | ЕÑÑ‚ÑŒ тут руÑÑкие? |
| 10:26.59 | Fin | no |
| 10:27.07 | Fin | I mean yes |
| 10:27.17 | Fin | wait, what was the question? |
| 10:27.25 | Vexir | probably do you speak russian |
| 10:27.27 | PIDARAS | it's bad |
| 10:27.37 | Fin | that looks like Chinese to me |
| 10:27.47 | PIDARAS | I'm speak russian |
| 10:27.52 | KivinSan | „I„x„r„y„~„y„„„u. „N„u „s„€„r„€„‚„‘„„ „„€-„‚„…„ƒ„ƒ„{„y. |
| 10:27.53 | Fin | I said Russian |
| 10:27.54 | Vexir | no its definetely some slavic language... |
| 10:28.04 | PIDARAS | I'm from russian |
| 10:28.10 | Fin | hello! |
| 10:28.13 | Vexir | LOL |
| 10:28.18 | Fin | privet |
| 10:28.23 | Arrowmaster | KivinSan: srsly use utf8 |
| 10:28.31 | PIDARAS | privet |
| 10:28.35 | Fin | da |
| 10:28.35 | KivinSan | Arrowmaster: mIRC is setup for utf8 |
| 10:28.44 | Arrowmaster | your not sending utf8 |
| 10:28.49 | Fin | ~utf8 |
| 10:28.49 | purl | fin: Pergunte-me sobre UTF-8 |
| 10:29.07 | Vexir | http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010508022637ou2.jpg |
| 10:29.31 | Roshev | Hm |
| 10:29.36 | KivinSan | You realize you're showing your name twice |
| 10:29.57 | Vexir | dno what else to put there. |
| 10:30.05 | KivinSan | nothing when in doubt |
| 10:30.15 | KivinSan | or put name at the top and class/level at the bottom if you absolutely have to fill the space |
| 10:30.24 | Vexir | how about my form |
| 10:30.27 | Vexir | on bottom |
| 10:30.29 | Vexir | level name on top |
| 10:30.31 | Wogroipl_ | I don't even show my name at all, I know what it is anyway |
| 10:30.35 | Roshev | Ey |
| 10:30.37 | Vexir | llolol |
| 10:30.44 | KivinSan | Wogroipl_: it's for consistency with target/focus, etc |
| 10:30.50 | Roshev | Lolololololol |
| 10:30.51 | Fin | awesome: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7929-MinimapButtonFrame.html |
| 10:30.57 | Fin | ~lol |
| 10:30.58 | purl | i heard lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 10:31.11 | Roshev | ooj |
| 10:31.16 | KivinSan | fin: lol |
| 10:33.02 | Roshev | Ya krevedko |
| 10:33.27 | Vexir | OKAY |
| 10:33.30 | Vexir | now all i have to do |
| 10:33.35 | Vexir | is somehow skin pitbull's debuffs |
| 10:33.52 | Roshev | Ya kirpich |
| 10:34.11 | Vexir | *ahem* |
| 10:34.27 | Vexir | anyone knowhow? |
| 10:35.33 | KivinSan | how to skin pitbull's auras? good frickin luck |
| 10:35.55 | KivinSan | I wouldn't trust Pitbull to get along with anything that alters it in any way |
| 10:36.16 | KivinSan | Since I don't know of anyone that really understand's Ck's code :P |
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| 10:39.09 | KivinSan | opinions: is there any worth in hitting "report spam" on gold spammer macros? |
| 10:39.48 | cladhaire | yes |
| 10:39.54 | KivinSan | cladhaire: why |
| 10:40.01 | cladhaire | because the account gets closed |
| 10:40.09 | cladhaire | perhaps not immediately |
| 10:40.11 | cladhaire | but it gets closed |
| 10:40.19 | KivinSan | gold spammers use throw-away trial accounts |
| 10:40.26 | KivinSan | it's junked in 10 minutes anyways |
| 10:40.34 | cladhaire | yes |
| 10:40.40 | cladhaire | its junked when it has to be junked |
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| 10:41.05 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.09 | cladhaire | since its once click |
| 10:41.13 | cladhaire | and can only help |
| 10:41.23 | KivinSan | And you're guessing that those 'report spam' clicks, what, draw blizzard's attention? |
| 10:41.37 | cladhaire | ... |
| 10:41.37 | KivinSan | I'm just trying to understand what happens when you click that. |
| 10:41.42 | cladhaire | its opens a Gm ticket |
| 10:41.51 | cladhaire | on a separate pipeline |
| 10:41.58 | Dalhia | Hmm, I was looking at my framexml.log (just checking abit out of interest), is it intended behaviour that I get "Error loading Interface\AddOns\Automaton\Libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua" (etc) when I use standalone libraries? |
| 10:42.00 | cladhaire | this flags the account |
| 10:42.04 | cladhaire | they could then flag the IP |
| 10:42.05 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 10:42.23 | Dalhia | (I'm assuming it is, just doublechecking) |
| 10:42.28 | cladhaire | the point is, regardless of whether you know what it does or doesn't do.. does _not_ reporting it help? |
| 10:43.01 | KivinSan | cladhaire: I'm writing a spam protection addon and I'm trying to decide if not having a report spam is a missing feature or not |
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| 10:43.30 | KivinSan | at the moment, it sort of takes the stance "what you don't know about can't hurt you" and tries to make gold spam as unassuming as possible |
| 10:43.49 | cladhaire | well you didn't ask if automatically doing it helps :P |
| 10:44.01 | cladhaire | but in that case i'd say one report per playe |
| 10:44.04 | KivinSan | which leads me to the question: is reporting afk a secure action? |
| 10:44.19 | cladhaire | try and see? |
| 10:44.37 | Dalhia | Oh, talking about this; doe SpamMeNot still bug your whispers? |
| 10:44.40 | KivinSan | i'd be willing to consider an optional auto-report for persons who break your spam filters |
| 10:44.52 | KivinSan | Dalhia: I heard someone complain about it a day or two ago |
| 10:45.06 | KivinSan | Dalhia: Get Kivin's SpamGuard when it's released :P |
| 10:45.17 | Dalhia | I will, but I need something till then |
| 10:45.19 | Dalhia | :P |
| 10:45.47 | KivinSan | I can commit a beta onto the WAU :P |
| 10:46.12 | Dalhia | If its in working order (aka: Bugsack is enough to not annoy me too much), sure |
| 10:46.15 | KivinSan | It's been stopping spam steady for the last twelve or some hours |
| 10:47.00 | Vexir | Wish there was auto reply notification on blizz's forums |
| 10:47.13 | KivinSan | a level 1 walks up to me and whispers "hello" |
| 10:47.15 | KivinSan | i whisper back: |
| 10:47.25 | KivinSan | "no i don't want to buy your crap" "no i don't want to give you gold" |
| 10:47.28 | KivinSan | "now what would you like?" |
| 10:47.31 | KivinSan | level 1 walks away... |
| 10:47.50 | Dalhia | I trade them, put in 12k gold in the trade window and afk |
| 10:47.56 | Dalhia | then see how long they wait |
| 10:48.28 | KivinSan | ROFL |
| 10:48.34 | KivinSan | i'll that next time |
| 10:51.53 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57907 10KivinSpamGuard/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:51.53 | CIA-8 | KivinSpamGuard: |
| 10:51.53 | CIA-8 | - Initial Commit. Does not contain external references. |
| 10:51.53 | CIA-8 | - A minimal approach to detecting and eliminating gold spam in /say and emote. |
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| 10:54.59 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57908 10KivinSpamGuard/: KivinSpamGuard: Added externals. |
| 10:55.20 | KivinSan | Dalhia: All yours :P hope it doesn't explode or catch fire |
| 10:55.37 | Dalhia | If it does, I'll be sure to come whin..errr, let you know about it :) |
| 10:55.41 | KivinSan | XD |
| 10:56.00 | KivinSan | it wont interrupt whispers or group invites, yet |
| 10:56.37 | Dalhia | Get those rarely anyway, does it monitor /1 and /2 though? |
| 10:56.50 | KivinSan | No. I've never once seen goldspam in those mediums |
| 10:56.56 | Dalhia | oO |
| 10:57.03 | Dalhia | hmm, true |
| 10:57.04 | KivinSan | It'll be fully customizable in the next release with channels |
| 10:57.25 | KivinSan | It's purposely minimal. It only attempts to detect /say and /emotes for WoW haxs and gold vendor spam |
| 10:57.27 | Dalhia | I'm not sure these days if they spam in /1 and /2 actually, I'll keep an eye on it for a while |
| 10:57.44 | MoonWolf | minimalist designs, oh, the old days |
| 10:57.58 | KivinSan | minimal with a gigantic framework behind it :P |
| 10:58.03 | KivinSan | like all my addons |
| 10:58.07 | Fin | just because you haven't seen spam in those mediums, it doesn't mean that people don't use them to spam. that seems like quite a naive view of spammers, no offence intended... |
| 10:58.24 | KivinSan | Fin: Read the part about "next version will..." |
| 10:58.39 | KivinSan | Fin: I wasn't intending to commit it yet, but if someone might actually benfit from it... |
| 10:59.07 | Dalhia | I suppose it takes abit for the SVN to update it's listing? |
| 10:59.08 | Fin | good luck |
| 10:59.15 | KivinSan | Dalhia: 20 minutes at max |
| 10:59.21 | Dalhia | Ah,thanks |
| 10:59.23 | KivinSan | Fin:thx |
| 10:59.55 | KivinSan | I'll be watching the error log to make sure i didn't blotch the externals, i'll let you know when it goes up |
| 11:00.01 | Dalhia | btw, been getting framexml errors in bugsack since a few days, hold on, Ill see if I an find some :p |
| 11:00.16 | KivinSan | FrameXML errors make me cry with teh sad |
| 11:00.17 | Vexir | i'll be back tomorrow, farming time |
| 11:00.20 | Vexir | thanks for all the help, especially KivinSan |
| 11:00.21 | Vexir | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.35 | KivinSan | cheers |
| 11:00.36 | KivinSan | .o7 |
| 11:00.50 | KivinSan | btw, noob IRC question, how do i change my nick without logging off the server |
| 11:00.54 | KivinSan | i'm not registered with nickserv |
| 11:01.00 | Fin | type /nick newnick |
| 11:01.04 | Fin | and, register |
| 11:01.13 | Fin | type /msg nickserv help |
| 11:01.58 | Kivin | \o/ |
| 11:02.17 | Kivin | I used to be an IRC ace... about eleven years ago |
| 11:03.11 | Kivin | @Dalhia: WAU is up to r57908 |
| 11:04.33 | Dalhia | great :) |
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| 11:13.50 | Kivin | People who spam the chat to try to strike back at the gold spammers bemuse me, somewhat. I can't see the gold spam, but I can certainly see *them* >_< |
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| 11:24.55 | Vexir | nevermind im back |
| 11:25.01 | Vexir | have this issue i cant sort out |
| 11:25.04 | Ozguli | was it worth it? |
| 11:25.18 | Vexir | i cant get Buffalo2 to work with CyCircled - i dont see the option to skin the buffs |
| 11:25.52 | Kivin | Vexir: Buffalo |
| 11:25.53 | Kivin | not '2' |
| 11:25.59 | Vexir | oh |
| 11:26.01 | Vexir | why not 2? |
| 11:26.06 | Kivin | Dunno, never got it to work |
| 11:26.22 | Vexir | mmk |
| 11:26.25 | Vexir | is there a difference? |
| 11:26.52 | Kivin | one works :P |
| 11:27.04 | Vexir | lol |
| 11:27.13 | Kivin | seriously, though. i've never got b2 to work |
| 11:27.33 | Vexir | phew i pretty much overhauled my entire UI today |
| 11:27.59 | Kivin | Now don't get fed up and junk it, like I did with SimpleDARK :P |
| 11:28.42 | Kivin | Blargh. I'm having writers block with code |
| 11:30.03 | Vexir | ooomg |
| 11:30.05 | Vexir | that looks so sweet |
| 11:30.07 | Vexir | ty :) |
| 11:30.12 | Vexir | be back tomorrow, gotta sleep |
| 11:30.14 | Vexir | later |
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| 11:32.36 | Nerox | Anyone else having a problem with ArkInventory? I updated all my mods using WAU and now it doesn't work anymore. I've tried deleting and re-downloading it manually as well. |
| 11:32.48 | Kivin | What kind of problem? |
| 11:33.02 | Nerox | It's not showing up at all. I'm getting the default Bag UI |
| 11:33.17 | Nerox | It says that it's active when I use /arkinventory |
| 11:33.23 | Kivin | hmm |
| 11:33.35 | Kivin | try /ai standby |
| 11:33.51 | Nerox | ok |
| 11:35.07 | Nerox | nothing |
| 11:35.32 | Kivin | did it say "State is now set to [suspended]" or "state is now set to [active]"? |
| 11:36.31 | Nerox | state is now set to suspended |
| 11:36.40 | Kivin | ./ai standby again to turn it back on |
| 11:36.44 | Kivin | should restore all the hooks |
| 11:37.44 | Nerox | tried it, still not working |
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| 11:38.10 | Kivin | tried deleting your saved variables files for ark inventory? |
| 11:39.08 | Silowyi | does AI have a setting that allows you to determine whether it opens with the default bindings or not? |
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| 11:39.34 | Kivin | I don't think so... I believe it just wraps the default containers |
| 11:39.50 | Silowyi | hmm ok, Bagnon lets you configure that |
| 11:42.13 | Kivin | I something It could be, but I don't know how to fetch it from the slash commands |
| 11:42.16 | Nerox | Nothing, even tried re-installing it again. |
| 11:42.31 | Kivin | Did you delete your savedvars? |
| 11:42.35 | Nerox | Yep |
| 11:42.40 | Kivin | ... |
| 11:42.47 | Kivin | turn off everything except arkinv |
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| 11:42.57 | Nerox | ok |
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| 11:46.25 | Nerox | Got this message: Interface\Addons\Arkinventory\Arkinventory.lua.3548:bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected.got nil) |
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| 11:46.59 | Kivin | hmm |
| 11:47.41 | Kivin | You're not using the same version as me |
| 11:47.47 | Kivin | And I just refreshed my list on the WAU |
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| 11:48.19 | Kivin | Get -57875 off the WAU |
| 11:48.43 | Nerox | that the one w/o externals? |
| 11:49.10 | Kivin | with externals if you aren't positive you have them already |
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| 11:53.09 | Nerox | nothing |
| 11:53.20 | Kivin | still an error dialog? |
| 11:53.28 | Nerox | Yeah |
| 11:53.35 | Kivin | o.o |
| 11:54.08 | Kivin | line 3548 doesn't even have code on it for me |
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| 11:55.00 | Kivin | are you refreshing your list in WAU? |
| 11:55.07 | Kivin | I don't know if it matters |
| 11:55.22 | Kivin | but it seems you're downloading older code, or something |
| 11:55.49 | Kivin | open VersionHIstory.txt in the ArkInventory folder |
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| 11:56.02 | Kivin | and see if the topmost revision is: *2.24g (04-JAN-2008)* |
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| 11:57.26 | Nerox | ok |
| 11:58.05 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 0/0 print(a ~= a) |
| 11:58.05 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 11:58.18 | Nerox | Yep, only thing that's above that is the todo |
| 11:58.21 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 1/0 print(a ~= a) |
| 11:58.21 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: false |
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| 11:58.46 | Xinhuan | lua never ceases to amaze me zzzz |
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| 11:59.24 | Kivin | Nerox: I've got nothin' |
| 12:00.49 | Nerox | hmm |
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| 12:18.01 | Orionshock | ... Xinhuan you seem to find the weird shit don't you |
| 12:18.08 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 12:18.14 | Orionshock | lua> a = 0/0 print(a ~= a) |
| 12:18.14 | lua_bot | Orionshock: true |
| 12:18.16 | Orionshock | ?? |
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| 12:18.37 | Xinhuan | read my latest post if you want to know about weird shit |
| 12:18.38 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10102.20 |
| 12:19.41 | Xinhuan | i'm your professional bug finder |
| 12:20.29 | yasuo | hi there |
| 12:20.57 | yasuo | how can i debuff positive buffs with a command? |
| 12:21.06 | yasuo | and how can i let the ghost fee |
| 12:21.31 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: ya.. that's some freaky shit |
| 12:21.36 | Orionshock | yasuo: what game? |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-8 | 03cossy * r57909 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-8 | StatLogicLib: |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-8 | - deDE local: mana_reg scan improved |
| 12:22.37 | yasuo | wow ^ |
| 12:23.08 | yasuo | i need a mcro to debuff "ghost healer" and then let ghost free |
| 12:23.10 | Xinhuan | yasuo, maybe you should rephrase your question, because i understood none of it |
| 12:23.18 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.35 | Xinhuan | no ty Orionshock ^^ |
| 12:23.40 | Orionshock | :P |
| 12:23.52 | Xinhuan | acecomm code made my head explode today |
| 12:23.54 | Ozguli | he wants a macro to cancel improved death buff |
| 12:23.58 | [SW]Dodge | what is guildcraft for? |
| 12:23.59 | Xinhuan | but i've finally understood almost all of it |
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| 12:24.12 | yasuo | sorr ydont kn ow the english name of the buff, its for holy preists after death |
| 12:24.38 | Orionshock | [SW]Dodge: when many ppl use it, it allows you to see and share what others can craft. |
| 12:24.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.24 | [SW]Dodge | ah nice :) |
| 12:26.06 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:27.50 | yasuo | whats the command to remove buffs |
| 12:28.01 | yasuo | and wich one is for revealing the ghost in wow |
| 12:28.42 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.48 | Polarina | Industrial: :D |
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| 12:28.54 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.05 | Orionshock | yasuo: i think that's what your looking for |
| 12:29.25 | Kivin | RepopMe? |
| 12:29.26 | Orionshock | Spirit of redemption being the Imp_Death that Holy priests have |
| 12:29.32 | Xinhuan | i have no idea what "revealing ghost" means |
| 12:29.32 | Orionshock | Kivin: don't ask... |
| 12:29.42 | Kivin | Orionshock: erm... |
| 12:30.00 | yasuo | after you die you have to click "let ghost free" |
| 12:30.08 | Kivin | an /echo reveals it's a function on my client. tempting to call it |
| 12:30.14 | yasuo | "Geist freilassen" in german |
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| 12:30.24 | Kivin | I see |
| 12:30.56 | Kivin | Really? I cringe at the thought of the day my addons start producing forum posts |
| 12:30.58 | Orionshock | yasuo: that should work what i gave you, use it in a macro |
| 12:31.07 | Orionshock | Kivin: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_RepopMe |
| 12:31.19 | Kivin | I see |
| 12:32.35 | Kivin | Having total mental block on how to design the UI for SpamGuard |
| 12:32.54 | Polarina | "Valuation is also a valid option if you prefer the Blizzard style of money display. It uses significantly less memory than SellFish & even a little bit less CPU time." -- Tuller. |
| 12:33.34 | Orionshock | Kivin: that's because your thinking about design rather than layout and feel, design implies the technical detail of how it's constructed. |
| 12:33.57 | Kivin | Orionshock: Yeah, I'm thinking about code. |
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| 12:34.39 | Orionshock | well think less about code and more about functionality and ease of use for it, something intuitive. |
| 12:34.45 | yasuo | thank you Orionshock |
| 12:35.38 | yasuo | and are there timers to show me the best time to repop in bg? |
| 12:35.58 | Kivin | If there are, I absolutely need to get one. |
| 12:36.17 | yasuo | joke? |
| 12:36.27 | Kivin | hmm? |
| 12:36.36 | yasuo | i mean the reviver is reviving every 30 seconds |
| 12:36.39 | yasuo | in bg |
| 12:36.40 | Kivin | Yes |
| 12:36.46 | Orionshock | yasuo: if there are it'd need to synch, it's theoreticly every 30 seconds, but it's more like 32 |
| 12:37.17 | Orionshock | i could write one i think in about 4 hrs |
| 12:37.35 | Orionshock | would be kinda interesting... |
| 12:37.50 | Kivin | There's probably no combat log text for comrades spawning around you, eh? |
| 12:37.54 | Orionshock | would require different timmers for each GY, |
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| 12:38.19 | Orionshock | Kivin: could use Unit_Health, it changing from 0 -> max |
| 12:38.24 | Orionshock | the event that is.. |
| 12:38.43 | Kivin | yeah, true, that |
| 12:39.01 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, don't bother |
| 12:39.04 | Xinhuan | i tried before |
| 12:39.06 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 12:39.06 | yasuo | sync is np i die often enough |
| 12:39.21 | Xinhuan | there is a few seconds of delay between every 30 sec every rez |
| 12:39.22 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: did you fail? |
| 12:39.26 | Xinhuan | and its random enough to the point |
| 12:39.32 | Xinhuan | after 1-2 minutes, it gets very offsync |
| 12:39.43 | Xinhuan | think of it like a rogue-energy-tick timer bar that goes offsync |
| 12:39.54 | Orionshock | well it would ahve to re sync every pop, |
| 12:39.59 | Orionshock | that enough is clear |
| 12:40.06 | Xinhuan | well my point is, even in WSG |
| 12:40.09 | Xinhuan | if you died now |
| 12:40.11 | Xinhuan | synced it |
| 12:40.21 | Xinhuan | then died 2 min later, your timer and the GY rez timer would be completely off |
| 12:40.27 | Xinhuan | by as much as 15 sec |
| 12:40.31 | Xinhuan | or more |
| 12:40.49 | Xinhuan | that makes it worthless, since 15 secs of error is the max anyway, out of a rez every 30 secs |
| 12:41.13 | Orionshock | well i'd have to write a recorder addon.. and pour though the logs for days... |
| 12:41.21 | Xinhuan | its not consistent |
| 12:41.25 | Xinhuan | i've done it :D |
| 12:41.43 | Xinhuan | the time between each rez can be between 31-35 or so seconds, soemtimes its 31, sometimes its 35 |
| 12:41.49 | Orionshock | well if we infer that 1 person will die every 30 seconds then it'll remain accurate |
| 12:42.00 | Xinhuan | only if synced across multiple players |
| 12:42.14 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57910 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.toc: BetterInbox: add addonloader as a loadmanager, load on mailbox |
| 12:42.18 | Kivin | would work best with a whole raid using the addon |
| 12:42.19 | Orionshock | witch is more viable in premades, where it would make the most sense |
| 12:42.21 | Xinhuan | and that's something i don't want to do - create more mass messages |
| 12:42.57 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: ..? [BGREZ][<Zone>|Time][BATTLEGROUND] |
| 12:43.08 | Orionshock | ... lots of data there... |
| 12:43.18 | Xinhuan | when you're sending it to 40 people, yes |
| 12:43.23 | Xinhuan | and receiving it back |
| 12:43.31 | Kivin | If I want a 100% opaque backdrop bg of a particular color, do i set the bgFile = "" and call :SetBackdropColor(...)? |
| 12:43.35 | Orionshock | only those that are dead would transmit |
| 12:43.47 | Orionshock | and only once |
| 12:43.56 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.28 | Xinhuan | feel free to write the addon ;d |
| 12:44.46 | Orionshock | naaa. don't give a dam that much... |
| 12:49.22 | Kivin | wtb wow client that recognizes toc changes |
| 12:53.20 | Fisker- | damnit |
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| 12:53.51 | Orionshock | Fisker-: .. never fails bot goes haywire, someone might want to reboot him :P |
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| 12:56.08 | Kivin | Varalos <NEW HORDE ORDER> says: WUD U LIKE TO DU AN INSTANCE WITH US? |
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| 12:56.57 | Xinhuan | clearly you haven't seen the ones that go "will you help me clear VC for 5g?" |
| 12:57.09 | Polarina | I'm supprised why his name isn't VARALOS. |
| 12:57.17 | Kivin | Wtf, they OFFER GOLD on your server? |
| 12:57.24 | Kivin | I'm moving to Europe. |
| 12:57.32 | Xinhuan | i'm on a us realm |
| 12:57.37 | Kivin | oh ;p |
| 12:57.48 | Kivin | Around here, they yell at me in /y and /w for not running them through for free |
| 12:57.55 | Kivin | Multiple times a day |
| 12:58.01 | Polarina | Kivin: There are lots of people offering gold to boost them in Deadmines, Stockade, etc. Also, you can even get a healer for a fair price. |
| 12:58.15 | Kivin | Not on Cenarion Circle `_` |
| 12:58.25 | Polarina | Kivin: I'm in Europe. |
| 12:58.25 | Xinhuan | would you do it Polarina? for 5 gold? |
| 12:58.31 | Kivin | It's all 3 day old characters begging for gold, free enchantments, and instance runs. In the same sentence. |
| 12:58.33 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Sure. |
| 12:58.57 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure i can get 5 gold from killng 5 mobs in outlands, taking at most 2 minutes |
| 12:59.02 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I got a healer to go with is in Ramparts for 10 Gold. |
| 12:59.25 | Xinhuan | compared to the 40 minutes to travel to and pull out of VC and making sure the lvl 20 doesn't die |
| 13:00.16 | Kivin | I don't do runs, period. I even tell my guildies to go screw off |
| 13:00.30 | Kivin | All be it a bit nicer than the jackasses that whisper me |
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| 13:04.38 | yasuo | can i input a sleeptime into macros? |
| 13:05.50 | Kivin | nope, sorry |
| 13:06.32 | Orionshock | i have a friend on CC |
| 13:06.44 | Kivin | horde or alliance? |
| 13:06.47 | Orionshock | both |
| 13:06.59 | Kivin | groovy |
| 13:07.07 | Orionshock | a) magnamera i think the name was |
| 13:07.12 | Orionshock | gnome warrior |
| 13:07.20 | Kivin | dunno about alliance side, i haven't played it in a long time |
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| 13:07.58 | Orionshock | nn all |
| 13:08.05 | Kivin | o/ |
| 13:08.15 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03jjungnickel <jjungnickel@gmail.com> 07master * r667065d320 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): [PATCH] Nagrand Use: Items |
| 13:08.41 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, you awake? |
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| 13:14.42 | yasuo | hmm how do i "speak" with npcs? |
| 13:14.58 | yasuo | so target the npc and rightclick it |
| 13:15.14 | Xinhuan | requires a rightclick |
| 13:15.20 | Xinhuan | no macro can do it |
| 13:15.31 | Polarina | The EU Armoury is horribly broken, I'm unable to synchronise from it. |
| 13:15.48 | Xinhuan | its alright, the US one is equally broken |
| 13:15.58 | Xinhuan | everyone still says "awaiting refresh" |
| 13:16.18 | Kivin | wtb Wowhead-based ct-profile |
| 13:16.42 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I'm at least able to synchronise from it. |
| 13:16.57 | Xinhuan | Kivin, can i recommend you a Xinhuan-based ct-profile? :D |
| 13:17.07 | Kivin | Xinhuan: XP |
| 13:17.12 | Kivin | I have wowequip |
| 13:17.28 | Xinhuan | there is www.wowdigger.com |
| 13:17.35 | Kivin | o.O |
| 13:17.38 | Xinhuan | which is a incgamers-based ct-profile |
| 13:17.47 | Kivin | I hate incgamers =\ |
| 13:17.54 | Xinhuan | there's another 2 similar sites |
| 13:17.55 | Xinhuan | umm |
| 13:18.07 | Xinhuan | forgot addresses |
| 13:18.22 | Xinhuan | where you can do similar things |
| 13:19.08 | Kivin | can i anchor the RIGHT of a button to it's own LEFT? |
| 13:19.10 | Megalon | http://www.warcrafter.net ? |
| 13:19.12 | Kivin | with offsets, of course |
| 13:19.32 | Xinhuan | no, you will get circular reference |
| 13:19.36 | Kivin | heh, okay |
| 13:19.51 | Xinhuan | if you want to anchor the right to its own left, you just do :SetWidth() |
| 13:19.54 | Kivin | yeah |
| 13:19.56 | Xinhuan | and pass in that offset |
| 13:20.01 | Kivin | Was a passing curiosity |
| 13:20.30 | Polarina | Xinhuan: And it's synchronising at 3 requests per second (I've never seen the US Armoury so fast). |
| 13:20.39 | Kivin | lua> not 1 |
| 13:20.39 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
| 13:20.45 | Kivin | lua> not 0 |
| 13:20.45 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
| 13:20.56 | Kivin | lua> not false |
| 13:20.56 | lua_bot | Kivin: true |
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| 13:21.10 | nevcairiel | lua> not not Kivin |
| 13:21.10 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: false |
| 13:21.16 | Kivin | D: |
| 13:21.58 | Polarina | Kivin: Any numbers, including 0, equal to true to some extend. |
| 13:22.16 | Kivin | yeah, that drives me crazy when i get a if ( 0 ) then which passes true |
| 13:22.37 | nevcairiel | this is not C :P |
| 13:22.38 | Polarina | lua> if 0 then return "C code should not get here" end |
| 13:22.38 | lua_bot | Polarina: C code should not get here |
| 13:22.46 | Kivin | D: |
| 13:22.55 | Kivin | purl, lua_bot is making me a sad panda. |
| 13:22.56 | purl | ...but lua_bot is already something else... |
| 13:23.07 | Kivin | oh, okay. |
| 13:23.09 | nevcairiel | only false and nil are "false" |
| 13:23.14 | nevcairiel | ~lua_bot |
| 13:23.14 | purl | i guess lua_bot is totally like, 0.6, whereas *I* am *so* 1.2 |
| 13:23.21 | Kivin | can [false] be a valid table key? |
| 13:23.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 13:23.39 | Polarina | Kivin: Anything can be a valid table key except for nil and no value. |
| 13:23.41 | Xinhuan | the only value that cannot be a table key is "nil" |
| 13:23.44 | Xinhuan | and "no value" |
| 13:23.47 | Lukian | 00:22:45 Incineratus hits you for 111278 Fire damage. (crushing) (24728 resisted) (CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_CREATURE_VS_SELF_HITS) |
| 13:23.48 | Lukian | <3 |
| 13:23.51 | Kivin | that whole shpiel was to find a pair of table keys which could be toggled with a binary not |
| 13:24.03 | Xinhuan | well nil and no value both mean the same thing |
| 13:24.13 | Polarina | Xinhuan: No, it's not. |
| 13:24.24 | nevcairiel | how did you manage to aggro inceneratus? |
| 13:24.25 | Kivin | What isn't? [false]? |
| 13:24.25 | Polarina | Xinhuan: You can't call tostring() with no value, but you can with a nil. |
| 13:24.35 | Xinhuan | alright you win |
| 13:24.43 | Kivin | lua> local t = {}; t[false] = 3; print(t[false]) |
| 13:24.43 | lua_bot | Kivin: 3 |
| 13:24.52 | Xinhuan | anything that isn't false or nil, is true |
| 13:24.53 | nevcairiel | lua> tostring(), tostring(nil) |
| 13:24.54 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: [string "return tostring(), tostring(nil)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected) |
| 13:25.03 | nevcairiel | i guess, that only counts for C funcs |
| 13:25.13 | Polarina | lua> tostring() |
| 13:25.13 | lua_bot | Polarina: [string "tostring()"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected) |
| 13:25.15 | Kivin | lua> tostring(nil) |
| 13:25.15 | lua_bot | Kivin: nil, |
| 13:25.21 | Nargiddley | depends how the lua function works |
| 13:25.22 | Xinhuan | oh there is a 3rd value you can't use as a table key |
| 13:25.24 | Kivin | was pretty sure that works. i /echo tostring(nil) all the time |
| 13:25.26 | Xinhuan | guess what it is |
| 13:25.32 | nevcairiel | NaN? |
| 13:25.35 | Xinhuan | correct! |
| 13:25.45 | Polarina | Let me check. |
| 13:25.47 | nevcairiel | there are three versions of NaN tho |
| 13:25.57 | Xinhuan | you can't use 1/0 as a table key |
| 13:25.58 | nevcairiel | lua> 1/0, -1/0, 0/0 |
| 13:25.58 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf, -inf, nan |
| 13:26.05 | Xinhuan | but you can use inf and -inf |
| 13:26.08 | Nargiddley | lua> function a(...) print(select('#', ...) end a(nil) a() |
| 13:26.09 | lua_bot | Nargiddley: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "function a(...) print(select('#', ...) end a(nil) a()"]:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 13:26.11 | Dalhia | Anyone can see what's wrong here? Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:737: bad argument #1 to 'strlower' (string expected, got nil): |
| 13:26.20 | Nargiddley | lua> function a(...) print(select('#', ...)) end a(nil) a() |
| 13:26.21 | lua_bot | Nargiddley: 1, 0 |
| 13:26.21 | Xinhuan | Dalhia, blizzard code bug, fixed in 2.3.2 |
| 13:26.22 | Polarina | lua> local t = {}; t[2 ^ 123456789123456789] = 3; print(t[2 ^ 123456789123456789]) |
| 13:26.23 | lua_bot | Polarina: 3 |
| 13:26.26 | Dalhia | Thanks |
| 13:26.29 | Polarina | Xinhuan: You are wrong! |
| 13:26.41 | Polarina | lua> local t = {}; t[2 ^ 123456789123456789] = 3; print(t[2 ^ 5555]) |
| 13:26.42 | lua_bot | Polarina: 3 |
| 13:26.49 | Polarina | Xinhuan: And proved wrong! |
| 13:27.00 | nevcairiel | lua> local t = {}; t[1/0] = 3; print(t[1/0]) |
| 13:27.00 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 3 |
| 13:27.07 | nevcairiel | he said that you can use inf and -inf |
| 13:27.09 | nevcairiel | not nan |
| 13:27.16 | nevcairiel | lua> local t = {}; t[0/0] = 3; print(t[0/0]) |
| 13:27.16 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: [string "local t = {}; t[0/0] = 3; print(t[0/0])"]:1: table index is NaN |
| 13:27.23 | Polarina | Oh.. |
| 13:27.41 | Xinhuan | in fact, 1/0 is the only value that will compare to itself as false |
| 13:27.57 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 1/0 print(a ~= a) |
| 13:27.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: false |
| 13:28.03 | nevcairiel | owned |
| 13:28.10 | Xinhuan | wait |
| 13:28.17 | nevcairiel | lua> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 13:28.17 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: false |
| 13:28.21 | nevcairiel | thats NaN |
| 13:28.23 | nevcairiel | 1/0 is inf |
| 13:28.27 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 13:28.29 | Kivin | lua> NaN == NaN |
| 13:28.29 | lua_bot | Kivin: true |
| 13:28.52 | nevcairiel | Kivin: that will compute as "nil == nil" because NaN is undefined |
| 13:28.56 | Kivin | oh :P |
| 13:28.57 | Xinhuan | lua> a = 0/0 print(a ~= a) |
| 13:28.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 13:29.00 | Xinhuan | i meant 0/0 :D |
| 13:29.11 | Kivin | lua> 0/0 |
| 13:29.11 | lua_bot | Kivin: nan |
| 13:29.11 | Polarina | nevcairiel: It will compare as "<no value> == <no value>"! |
| 13:29.21 | Kivin | lua> type(0/0) |
| 13:29.21 | lua_bot | Kivin: number, |
| 13:29.34 | Kivin | lua> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 13:29.34 | lua_bot | Kivin: false |
| 13:29.52 | nevcairiel | lua> print(undefined_variable) |
| 13:29.53 | Xinhuan | its like the only thing in the world that will compute as false ;d |
| 13:29.53 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 13:29.56 | Kivin | Lua is a strange creature |
| 13:29.59 | nevcairiel | Polarina: it says nil :P |
| 13:30.17 | nevcairiel | that NaN always compares to false is in all languages |
| 13:30.17 | Polarina | lua> local tmp = 0 / 0; print(t == t) |
| 13:30.18 | lua_bot | Polarina: true |
| 13:30.22 | Polarina | lua> local tmp = 0 / 0; print(tmp == tmp) |
| 13:30.23 | lua_bot | Polarina: false |
| 13:30.26 | Polarina | lua_bot: LIES! |
| 13:30.36 | Xinhuan | try it in game |
| 13:30.37 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 13:30.40 | nevcairiel | its a definition in the math logic |
| 13:30.51 | nevcairiel | ANY comparison with NaN is always false |
| 13:31.02 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Does it return true in-game? |
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| 13:31.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:31.14 | Xinhuan | it returns false, like lua_bot |
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| 13:32.32 | Zariel | any ideas why this causes internal bag errors? http://wow-zariel.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AmmoGnome/AmmoGnome.lua |
| 13:32.55 | Xinhuan | Zariel, internal bag errors are caused by server/client desync |
| 13:33.13 | Zariel | How to fix that? |
| 13:33.18 | Xinhuan | relogging. |
| 13:33.34 | Xinhuan | and i mean a real relog, not reloadu |
| 13:33.37 | Xinhuan | +i |
| 13:33.44 | Zariel | yeah ive done that a fair few times |
| 13:33.57 | Xinhuan | it usually means you have code that tried to do somthing too fast |
| 13:34.12 | Zariel | yeah was thinking that |
| 13:34.16 | Xinhuan | almost any inventory stuff you do has to wait for server to respond |
| 13:34.43 | Zariel | I was using dongle before and then remove dongle dependacy with the same core code and it didnt work whereas with dongle it did |
| 13:35.36 | Xinhuan | use MERCHANT_UPDATE |
| 13:35.39 | Xinhuan | not MERCHANT_SHOW |
| 13:35.52 | Zariel | thanks |
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| 13:36.16 | nevcairiel | and probably cache the result of GetContainerNumSlots() |
| 13:36.47 | Xinhuan | not needed |
| 13:36.52 | Xinhuan | he only counts once |
| 13:36.56 | Xinhuan | on every merchant_show |
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| 13:37.41 | nevcairiel | but he calls that func once for every inventory entry, thats ~100 calls that could be 5 or so =P |
| 13:37.52 | Xinhuan | i suppose! |
| 13:38.17 | nevcairiel | well actually, he filters the bagtype before |
| 13:38.19 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 13:38.33 | yasuo | whats the difference between /me and /em ? |
| 13:38.51 | Zariel | its spelt backwards |
| 13:39.03 | yasuo | wow |
| 13:39.14 | charon | yasuo: one is a shorthand for /emote, the other duplicates IRC /me? |
| 13:39.53 | nevcairiel | in WoW its the same |
| 13:40.15 | yasuo | its the same? |
| 13:40.20 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:40.48 | Xinhuan | half the world doesn't know /use and /cast are just aliases for each other too |
| 13:40.52 | Xinhuan | used interchangably |
| 13:41.16 | [Ammo] | anyone else disconnecting a lot in IF? |
| 13:41.28 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 13:41.30 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 13:41.33 | [Ammo] | happens on login |
| 13:41.36 | [Ammo] | can't move and poof disconnect |
| 13:41.36 | Xinhuan | just you |
| 13:41.44 | Xinhuan | wait 2 minutes, then reconnect |
| 13:41.44 | [Ammo] | happens a lot to others on Kazzak-EU as well |
| 13:42.14 | Xinhuan | its probably some silly error on trying to reconnect when your char is still in the gameworld |
| 13:42.59 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: pong |
| 13:43.34 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, can you generate more debugstack traces from omen causing errors in acecomm? |
| 13:43.47 | Xinhuan | without the "modifications" you made |
| 13:43.52 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: no, I'm not at home until the 13th, so I don't have WoW |
| 13:43.56 | Xinhuan | reference: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10102.msg169363#msg169363 |
| 13:44.12 | Xinhuan | some serious issues in acecomm as you can see |
| 13:46.13 | Xinhuan | any comments vhaarr? ^^ |
| 13:46.35 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I can fix at least the table serialization when I'm back home next sunday |
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| 13:46.56 | Xinhuan | someone else would probably fix it by then |
| 13:47.00 | vhaarr | the whole deal can be simplified quite a bit |
| 13:47.16 | Xinhuan | can easily just get rid of the whole islist test |
| 13:47.22 | Xinhuan | so islist is always false |
| 13:47.25 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 13:47.44 | Xinhuan | sending 10000 nil serialized values |
| 13:47.46 | Xinhuan | is a bit lol to me |
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| 13:48.29 | Zariel | hmmm sweet nns |
| 13:48.53 | Xinhuan | i can't reproduce the string_char() error |
| 13:48.57 | Xinhuan | but at least, i think that is the cause |
| 13:48.58 | CIA-8 | 03darkimakuni * r57911 10FuBar_uClock/: |
| 13:48.58 | CIA-8 | FuBar uClock |
| 13:48.58 | CIA-8 | - Created folder remotely |
| 13:49.11 | Xinhuan | your stack traces aren't too clear |
| 13:49.19 | Xinhuan | since your version is modified |
| 13:49.33 | Xinhuan | i just pressed "enter" and added newlines until the function starting numbers match |
| 13:50.13 | vhaarr | right |
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| 13:50.23 | vhaarr | I've modified it even more since then |
| 13:50.31 | vhaarr | all of Ace2, actually, cleaned it up a bit |
| 13:50.42 | vhaarr | but I can't commit it until I'm home again so I can test it all |
| 13:50.51 | Xinhuan | where are you? |
| 13:51.06 | vhaarr | at my parents place for christmas+new years |
| 13:51.19 | vhaarr | and just staying until the 13th for a dentist appointment, then I'm going back to my place |
| 13:51.25 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 13:51.26 | purl | :/ |
| 13:51.45 | Xinhuan | originally i thought the islist test is the reason why some mobs don't get threat-1.0 updates |
| 13:52.04 | Xinhuan | but i looked in threat and that wasn't the case, it uses 3 byte string keys, not muerical keys |
| 13:52.12 | vhaarr | okay |
| 13:52.13 | Xinhuan | so i'm totally stumped |
| 13:52.31 | vhaarr | well I couldn't reproduce the error either |
| 13:52.40 | Xinhuan | but your traces say otherwise, since the function call went into the islist == true portion |
| 13:52.48 | vhaarr | I'll have just as much trouble as you reproducing it reliably |
| 13:53.00 | Xinhuan | also the part that went into serializing the key, then the value pair |
| 13:53.11 | Xinhuan | the value is the one that caused the string_char() error |
| 13:53.27 | Xinhuan | from where i noted that b = m % 256 could return a value between 255.5 to 256 |
| 13:53.46 | Xinhuan | but threat calls floor() on everything before it sends the table |
| 13:53.49 | Xinhuan | again, i'm stumped |
| 13:54.17 | vhaarr | hm |
| 13:54.24 | Tornhoof | hmm? b= m % 256 should return between 0 and 255 |
| 13:54.30 | CIA-8 | 03darkimakuni * r57912 10FuBar_uClock/ (. Core.lua FuBar_uClock.toc Lib/ embeds.xml): |
| 13:54.30 | CIA-8 | FuBar_uClock |
| 13:54.30 | CIA-8 | - Initial commit. |
| 13:54.30 | CIA-8 | - Minimalistic time/date display. |
| 13:54.30 | Tornhoof | incl. 255 |
| 13:54.33 | Xinhuan | m is a floating point number |
| 13:54.43 | Tornhoof | modulo is not defined on floating point values |
| 13:54.43 | vhaarr | but I think the problem was that it tried to pass nil to _char? |
| 13:55.12 | Xinhuan | if it passed nil, the error wouldn't be "invalid arg #1"? let me check |
| 13:55.29 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(nil, 65) |
| 13:55.29 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "string.char(nil, 65)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil) |
| 13:55.43 | Xinhuan | [2007/12/29 16:20:40-448-x1]: AceComm-2.0-57236 (Ace2):307: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value) |
| 13:55.49 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(255.7) |
| 13:55.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "string.char(255.7)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
| 13:55.50 | vhaarr | ah |
| 13:55.56 | Xinhuan | see? different messages |
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| 13:56.07 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(255.4) |
| 13:56.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: ÿ, |
| 13:56.17 | Xinhuan | the number gets rounded off to the nearest integer |
| 13:56.28 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(255) |
| 13:56.28 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: ÿ, |
| 13:56.32 | vhaarr | right |
| 13:56.45 | Xinhuan | so the only possible case is when the input is larger than 255.5 |
| 13:56.52 | Xinhuan | or smaller than 0 |
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| 13:57.00 | Xinhuan | lua> string.char(-1) |
| 13:57.01 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "string.char(-1)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
| 13:57.21 | Xinhuan | almost every call i see has a % 256 to it |
| 13:57.37 | Xinhuan | where it doesn't, the value is a hash generated, within the bounds |
| 13:57.43 | Xinhuan | so not too sure |
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| 13:58.23 | Xinhuan | i asked Stanzilla if he could provide complete stack traces |
| 13:58.26 | Xinhuan | but he said |
| 13:58.32 | Xinhuan | bugsack only reported that single line |
| 13:58.39 | Xinhuan | no full stack reports |
| 13:58.43 | vhaarr | yeah that's why I had to modify acecomm there in the first place |
| 13:58.45 | vhaarr | to get a full stack |
| 13:58.55 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 13:59.14 | Xinhuan | maybe the full stack report should have been in in the first place |
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| 13:59.20 | Xinhuan | rather than a pcall() oneline? |
| 14:00.20 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 14:00.41 | Xinhuan | don't really understand why pcall was used, its expensive |
| 14:02.00 | vhaarr | if you give me a patch, I can commit things from here, I just can't test them since I don't have wow |
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| 14:02.32 | Xinhuan | i'll rather you fix them, i don't understand all of that code fully yet |
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| 14:02.46 | Xinhuan | some of the serialization seems totally unnecesary to me |
| 14:03.06 | Xinhuan | like converting integers into byte-form strings |
| 14:03.09 | vhaarr | I mean a patch to change the pcalls for example |
| 14:03.51 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: yeah but we can't change the serialization spec at this point |
| 14:03.54 | vhaarr | without bumping the major rev |
| 14:04.02 | Xinhuan | i know that |
| 14:04.10 | vhaarr | we can change how a list is serialized though |
| 14:04.14 | vhaarr | anyway time for dinner |
| 14:04.20 | Xinhuan | just deprecating that part won't break anything |
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| 14:07.47 | evl | Meh, why isn't it possible to organize addons in subfolders |
| 14:08.10 | Xinhuan | suggest that to slouken |
| 14:08.29 | Xinhuan | and we won't need 20 quartz folders to make each module LoD |
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| 14:15.49 | mdj | Hey guys, does anyone know how to make CDT2 only show an icon and a timer instead of the long visual bar? |
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| 14:23.15 | Zariel | =/ still giving internal bag error |
| 14:23.31 | wereHamster | GetScreenHeight/Width don't return the resolution, why? |
| 14:23.44 | Xinhuan | what if you comment out the line that says |
| 14:23.45 | Xinhuan | BuyMerchantItem(MerchID, needed) |
| 14:23.57 | Xinhuan | i.e don't try to buy items |
| 14:24.32 | Xinhuan | also i thought you can't buy more than 200 at a go? |
| 14:24.34 | Zariel | no error |
| 14:24.36 | wereHamster | screen width/height rays 1365/768 but I have a resolution of 1280/720 |
| 14:24.38 | Xinhuan | if needed > 200 |
| 14:24.45 | Zariel | needed is stacks |
| 14:25.06 | Xinhuan | i don't think you can buy more than 1 stack at a time? |
| 14:25.10 | Xinhuan | not for stacked items |
| 14:25.12 | Xinhuan | like arrows |
| 14:25.24 | Xinhuan | you can buy 8 rune of portals, but you can't buy 8 arrows |
| 14:25.33 | Xinhuan | you can only buy "1 stack" of arrows |
| 14:25.38 | Xinhuan | at a time |
| 14:25.42 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 14:25.44 | Zariel | doh, thanks :) |
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| 14:26.05 | Xinhuan | you can't shift-click a stackable item to buy X stacks |
| 14:26.32 | Xinhuan | but you could for items that aren't selling in bunches of 5 or bunches of 200s |
| 14:26.44 | Xinhuan | i think you get what i mean |
| 14:27.29 | Zariel | wank now i haave 7000 arrows :D |
| 14:29.10 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: there's a mod that lets you |
| 14:29.43 | Xinhuan | yeah but that mod simply loops and buys that 1 stack N times |
| 14:29.54 | Xinhuan | You can't order the code to buy "N stacks of 200 arrows" (where N > 1), so change your code to buy "1 stack of 200 arrows" N times. |
| 14:30.14 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 14:32.16 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you can fix that logic easily Zariel ;d |
| 14:32.23 | Zariel | for i = 1,needed do buyneeded end :) |
| 14:32.28 | Zariel | yeah i did |
| 14:33.11 | Zariel | thanks for the help |
| 14:36.25 | mdj | So, are the bars that are used by classtimers and cooldowntimers a default ace action that creates the bar? Or should I be able to find where their setup and modify them? |
| 14:38.07 | Xinhuan | they are from the CandyBar library |
| 14:38.25 | Xinhuan | that is shared/used by several addons, such as those you listed, and Bigwigs |
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| 14:39.17 | mdj | Xinhuan, cool I should just be able to tinker with that library then? |
| 14:39.23 | Xinhuan | most likely yes |
| 14:39.29 | mdj | Nifty, thanks for the help |
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| 14:43.22 | mdj | Hey, real quick, if I used rock to reload the addon after editing the libraries, should my change take effect or should I technically have to restart wow? |
| 14:43.44 | mdj | apologize for the silly questions....new to ace and wow addons, really want to mod this thing though. |
| 14:44.00 | Xinhuan | reloadui works as long as you didn't modify TOC files |
| 14:44.07 | mdj | awesome |
| 14:44.25 | Xinhuan | not entirely true, but generally so |
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| 14:50.08 | Lukian | Wobin isn't here >< |
| 14:50.14 | Lukian | bug in fuxpfu :D |
| 14:50.41 | Xinhuan | wobin hasn't been around for ages |
| 14:50.52 | Xinhuan | whats wrong anyway |
| 14:50.58 | Lukian | nothing major |
| 14:51.20 | Lukian | 32646/36300 ( 90%) 3654 to go (139% rested) |
| 14:51.25 | Lukian | ^ should be 150% |
| 14:51.32 | Xinhuan | that is not an error |
| 14:51.39 | Lukian | oh? |
| 14:51.51 | Xinhuan | i'll explain |
| 14:51.57 | Xinhuan | by wow's definition, rested exp can go to a max of "30 bubbles" |
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| 14:52.16 | Xinhuan | a "bubble" is the 1/20th section of the xp bar that you see |
| 14:52.27 | Fin | are they happy floaty bubbles? |
| 14:52.36 | Xinhuan | this means if your rested exp carries over to the next level, the next level's "bubble" is worth more than your current level's bubble |
| 14:52.36 | Fin | oh I do hope they are |
| 14:52.49 | Xinhuan | in terms of "raw xp value per bubble" |
| 14:52.59 | Lukian | 139% is valid - I see |
| 14:53.12 | Fin | what is the value in snuggles? |
| 14:53.34 | Fin | whee |
| 14:53.46 | Xinhuan | so depending on which level's bubble value it divided by |
| 14:53.51 | Xinhuan | it could be above or below 150% |
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| 14:54.37 | Lukian | I'm pondering if the % is more useful for remaining XP than current XP |
| 14:54.51 | Lukian | ie: 32646/36300, 3654 (10%) to go (139% rested) |
| 14:55.23 | Lukian | maybe it should latch onto your display choice! |
| 14:55.29 | Lukian | I have |
| 14:55.33 | Lukian | 'XP to go' checked |
| 14:55.49 | Xinhuan | i couldn't care less ;d |
| 14:56.19 | Lukian | hehe true, Mr big routes addon man :p |
| 14:57.46 | _neuron_ | ckknight, http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-85 last comment if/when you have the time to look into that module. |
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| 15:19.42 | NelsonM | does anyone know why recap has been broken for 3 days on the repository? there's a simple fix that no one has checked in |
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| 15:23.01 | [dRaCo] | NelsonM: recap isnt maintained here... it's just a version someone checked in to have it appear on the files listing |
| 15:23.09 | [dRaCo] | which, tbh, is pretty stupid |
| 15:23.16 | [dRaCo] | but that's just my 2 cent |
| 15:23.19 | KarlThePagan | should be larted |
| 15:23.47 | NelsonM | yeah, I agree with you it's stupid. but it's been convenient :-) maybe it should just be removed? bad to have a broken version there with wowaceupdater |
| 15:24.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's what I'd do |
| 15:24.51 | [dRaCo] | but I am not in charge of the svn (or anything else, but that's another story ;)) |
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| 15:25.14 | NelsonM | I have an SVN login but have never used it. would it be wrong for me to check in the one line, tested fix? |
| 15:26.08 | NelsonM | nevermind. I complained on the forums. I'm part of the solution! |
| 15:26.18 | KarlThePagan | fix it imo ;) |
| 15:26.31 | Xinhuan | what kind of error is it? |
| 15:26.32 | [dRaCo] | #2 |
| 15:26.37 | Xinhuan | syntax error? |
| 15:26.51 | [dRaCo] | but it's somebody else's addon, so maybe you should contact the author |
| 15:26.53 | NelsonM | missing a line from the TOC |
| 15:27.00 | Xinhuan | what is this missing line? |
| 15:27.12 | NelsonM | details here: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/5467/#comment_320111 |
| 15:27.22 | NelsonM | missing line is "RecapRecent.xml" listed in the TOC. dumb thing |
| 15:27.28 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 15:27.36 | Xinhuan | should be fine to commit |
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| 15:28.37 | Amadeo | Happy Saturday! :D |
| 15:31.17 | [dRaCo] | Caturday :P |
| 15:31.33 | Amadeo | meow |
| 15:31.36 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 15:32.08 | Dalhia | Kivin, if you'r here, would be pro if you could add /2 to your addon :) quite some /2 spamming on my server it seems (now I'm paying attention to the channel) |
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| 15:40.20 | NelsonM | ah, nice, I don't have permission to check in my fix. "svn: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/57844/trunk/Recap/Recap.toc': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 15:40.20 | NelsonM | " |
| 15:40.22 | NelsonM | oh well, I tried. |
| 15:42.50 | kenlyric | got damn! |
| 15:43.03 | kenlyric | heh, that's a fun typo. |
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| 15:45.24 | Amadeo | What are people using for energy tick addons? |
| 15:47.04 | kenlyric | rockstar put a bunch of their games on steam |
| 15:47.20 | Amadeo | Free? |
| 15:47.20 | kenlyric | pitbull, I think, shows my energy ticks. |
| 15:47.28 | kenlyric | no, not free |
| 15:47.33 | NelsonM | pitbull tanks gruul for me |
| 15:47.38 | Amadeo | Pitbull = Emacs? |
| 15:48.32 | kenlyric | but considering that I've lost my san andreas CD and my gta3 and max payne CDs are damaged and I also hate having to cart the CDs around for them, it's a great thing for me. |
| 15:52.28 | kenlyric | and heck, I don't even have manhunt or midnight club 2 |
| 15:55.28 | Industrial | < NelsonM> yeah, I agree with you it's stupid. but it's been convenient :-) maybe it should just be removed? bad to have a broken version there with wowaceupdater |
| 15:55.28 | Industrial | there is no guarantee that anything works |
| 15:55.37 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57913 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Update talent menus. Also change how other menus look to be consistent. |
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| 16:02.07 | Gregor__ | http://video.hornoxe.com/WoW_Silvester_Party.flv :P |
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| 16:04.44 | Stanzilla | -.- |
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| 16:08.32 | Lukian | erm, what is that? |
| 16:08.51 | haste | possibly something you don't want to click |
| 16:09.01 | Lukian | I use linux |
| 16:09.05 | Lukian | I click what I please |
| 16:09.08 | haste | so do I, hence the possibly |
| 16:09.30 | Lukian | I don't think i have a direct flv player.. :p |
| 16:09.46 | haste | mplayer works |
| 16:09.48 | Tornhoof | it's some 8mb file |
| 16:09.50 | haste | and all the smart kids use mplayer |
| 16:10.01 | si-m1 | flash video |
| 16:10.23 | Fin | [16:40:27] <NelsonM> ah, nice, I don't have permission to check in my fix. "svn: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/57844/trunk/Recap/Recap.toc': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 16:10.27 | Fin | oh, he's gone |
| 16:10.30 | Fin | never mind then |
| 16:10.32 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57914 10/branches/GatherMate/Collector.lua: GatherMate: Added in code to detect gas clouds, someday blizz could make the clouds visiable as unit and the code can be optimized |
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| 16:11.04 | kagaro | Ammo, you around |
| 16:11.26 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r57915 10RaidCast/RaidCast_Config.lua: RaidCast: temp commit of 'broken' config |
| 16:12.37 | kagaro | nevcairiel you there? |
| 16:13.54 | Xinhuan | yes? |
| 16:14.22 | kagaro | you gona be around a bit Xin? |
| 16:14.28 | Xinhuan | a bit yes |
| 16:16.14 | Lukian | rofl what language is that flv in |
| 16:16.31 | Stanzilla | german |
| 16:19.55 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r57916 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Druid.lua Data/Shaman.lua Melee.lua): |
| 16:19.55 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 16:19.55 | CIA-8 | - Heroic Strike and Cleave Avg Total display changed again |
| 16:19.55 | CIA-8 | - Fixed Mangle (Cat) and some problems with Druid AB updates |
| 16:19.55 | CIA-8 | - Added some more filtering to what debuffs are added to the class specific debuff tables on startup |
| 16:19.56 | CIA-8 | - Updated Mana Spring Totem mana regeneration to 2.3 values |
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| 16:23.38 | ramoz | nevcairiel = Xinhuan? |
| 16:24.28 | Xinhuan | nah he PMed me |
| 16:24.40 | Xinhuan | and i show my Pms in the channel window unless redirected to a pm window |
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| 16:37.33 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r57917 10DrDamage/Data/Priest.lua: |
| 16:37.33 | CIA-8 | DrDamage: |
| 16:37.33 | CIA-8 | - Added Chastise |
| 16:44.29 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57918 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: redid node it ordering |
| 16:46.45 | Gnarfoz | weird branch oO |
| 16:46.46 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 16:50.42 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: are you going to add routes to GatherMate? |
| 16:50.54 | Xinhuan | that's the plan |
| 16:51.00 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 16:51.11 | JoshBorke | is gathermate usable now? anyone know? |
| 16:51.29 | Xinhuan | not stable for use |
| 16:51.41 | Xinhuan | also has no UI |
| 16:51.49 | Xinhuan | its just the pure recording backend |
| 16:52.07 | Xinhuan | i'm arguing with kagaro to change the nodeID format |
| 16:52.20 | Xinhuan | because he did lots of string-number coercion |
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| 16:56.03 | JoshBorke | could you guys use Astrolabe for GatherMate? |
| 16:58.30 | Xinhuan | no idea what that is |
| 16:58.59 | JoshBorke | it's used in TomTom for coordinates and what not |
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| 16:59.28 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 16:59.28 | JoshBorke | nvm |
| 16:59.34 | JoshBorke | This is a library for the World of Warcraft UI system to place icons accurately on both the Minimap and the Worldmaps accurately and maintain the accuracy of those positions. |
| 17:00.01 | JoshBorke | anyway, bye |
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| 17:10.37 | bigzero | Xinhuan, I had postal skip like 3 items in the inbox when opening all. Don't know why it does it yet, just wanted to let you know that it does |
| 17:10.47 | Xinhuan | which 3 |
| 17:11.24 | bigzero | it was something random. like it opened mail with the same attachments that it skipped |
| 17:11.47 | bigzero | i'll do more testing |
| 17:11.51 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 17:12.03 | Fisker- | didn't know a simply mysql restart would corrupt my database |
| 17:12.13 | Ellipsis | im in ur databasez, eatin ur data |
| 17:12.32 | Tornhoof | it shouldn't fisker, not withh a clean mysql shutddown |
| 17:12.34 | Fisker- | no me |
| 17:12.47 | Fisker- | didn't say anything about any errors |
| 17:13.13 | Fisker- | but i loaded one of the sites and it had a database error :P |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker- | anyone know a very fast host btw? :D |
| 17:15.24 | Gnarfoz | your own server |
| 17:15.25 | Ellipsis | ur mom |
| 17:15.34 | Fisker- | i.e. a transfer speed host |
| 17:15.41 | Fisker- | also Ellipsis |
| 17:15.44 | Fisker- | i'm going to rape you |
| 17:15.46 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 17:15.56 | Ellipsis | let me know when, I'll make sure and leave my door unlocked |
| 17:16.28 | CIA-8 | 03laotseu * r57919 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed.lua embeds.xml libs/): AllPlayed: Removed the Babble-Class lib |
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| 17:41.53 | bigzero | any way of getting reverse transations with babble without having it error when the translation does not exisT? |
| 17:42.24 | bigzero | I guess it's not just with babble, acelocale in general |
| 17:42.35 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 17:42.44 | Xinhuan | you use :HasTranslation() |
| 17:42.52 | Xinhuan | or something like that |
| 17:43.14 | Xinhuan | you use :HasReservseTranslation() to get a true/false before you call :GetReverseTranslation() |
| 17:43.17 | Xinhuan | annoying isn't it? |
| 17:44.38 | bigzero | http://wowace.pastey.net/80099 wouldn't it still error? |
| 17:46.51 | bigzero | i remember looking for a solution to this earlier, but couldn't find one. |
| 17:47.47 | bigzero | nvm...it doesn't error |
| 17:47.56 | bigzero | i wonder why i didn't use it...hmm |
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| 17:56.40 | Industrial | Anyone play Stepmania? (stepmania.com) I can't find any good songs to play :( All recommendations welcome! |
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| 18:11.38 | Estil | stepmania? there are bunch of packs downloadable from ddruk |
| 18:11.44 | Estil | and custom ones frmo bemanistyle |
| 18:14.40 | Estil | zenius-i-vanisher has some too |
| 18:15.04 | Elkano | Industrial, I used to do the Gundam Seed intro... but on keyboard and not on my dance adapter... |
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| 18:23.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r755 10/trunk/tekJunkSeller/tekJunkSeller.lua: tekJunkSeller - <cladhaire> Tekkub: needs to fix tekjunkseller to work on load |
| 18:23.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r755 10/trunk/tekJunkSeller/tekJunkSeller.lua: tekJunkSeller - <cladhaire> Tekkub: needs to fix tekjunkseller to work on load |
| 18:23.47 | cladhaire | ABOUT TIME |
| 18:27.31 | Amadeo | I'm waiting for Combuctor to come out so I can say the same thing ;) |
| 18:28.34 | Tuller | its the only thing on my list right now :P |
| 18:28.59 | Amadeo | yay |
| 18:29.25 | Tuller | except for the kara I'm on right now :P |
| 18:29.41 | Tuller | the big thing is just figuring out what I want to do |
| 18:30.18 | Industrial | Elkano: yeah I play heyboard |
| 18:30.22 | Industrial | kayboard* |
| 18:30.23 | Industrial | asdfgsdfg |
| 18:30.26 | Amadeo | hahah |
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| 18:30.39 | Industrial | Elkano: http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/Untitled.wmv |
| 18:30.45 | Amadeo | Industrial's fingers are tired from dancing |
| 18:30.53 | Industrial | ;p |
| 18:30.59 | Industrial | check the vid |
| 18:33.46 | Elkano | holy *whatever* |
| 18:34.03 | Chompers | how long did that take to perfect :O |
| 18:34.11 | Industrial | first try with fraps |
| 18:34.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:34.36 | Estil | I want to play pump it up nx here |
| 18:34.37 | Estil | :( |
| 18:34.41 | Estil | and supernova 2 |
| 18:34.53 | Industrial | unfortunately fraps doesnt record my sound |
| 18:34.58 | Industrial | so I had to sync it in |
| 18:35.08 | Industrial | really sucky with the windows movie thingy rofl |
| 18:36.39 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 18:36.48 | Ellipsis | you're pretty quick with your fingers there |
| 18:37.44 | Industrial | playing it for about a year now, for fun :P |
| 18:37.50 | Industrial | I have no pad tho, just ekyboard |
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| 18:38.26 | Estil | no arcade nearby? |
| 18:39.04 | Industrial | no |
| 18:39.07 | Ellipsis | I wish I didnt' fail at stepmania |
| 18:39.14 | Ellipsis | so I could record leet videos :( |
| 18:39.15 | Industrial | there is one in my whole country |
| 18:39.19 | Industrial | (the netherlands) |
| 18:39.20 | Industrial | i think |
| 18:39.21 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:39.21 | Estil | oh |
| 18:39.26 | Estil | that's bad :( |
| 18:39.29 | Industrial | yah |
| 18:39.34 | Osstia|mac | is this like a DDR type game? |
| 18:39.39 | Industrial | yes |
| 18:39.41 | Estil | stepmania is a "ddr simulator" |
| 18:39.45 | Estil | on the pc |
| 18:39.48 | Osstia|mac | nice |
| 18:39.51 | Industrial | open source, and you can buy pads for it |
| 18:40.07 | Osstia|mac | Whats more fun, stepmania? or something like Guitar hero? |
| 18:40.17 | Estil | there is a pump it up exceed and bunch of extremes and 1 supernova here in this city |
| 18:40.22 | Osstia|mac | i would imagine being keys they are similar |
| 18:40.32 | Estil | keys are customizable in stepmania |
| 18:40.43 | Industrial | I use JKL; |
| 18:41.25 | Industrial | Osstia|mac: I think stepmania is more fun |
| 18:41.33 | Estil | in terms of difficulty I'd say ddr arcade < pump it up ~= keyboard-only crazy songs on stepmania |
| 18:42.18 | Estil | although some people managed to beat those "keyboard-oriented" songs on ITG2 machines |
| 18:43.22 | Osstia|mac | I can't DDR |
| 18:43.30 | Osstia|mac | I tried once, rather embarassing |
| 18:43.37 | Estil | Air by Reach is well known keyboard-oriented simfile for stepmania |
| 18:43.37 | Industrial | its fun with a group :P |
| 18:43.40 | Osstia|mac | I struggle with Hard on Guitar Hero |
| 18:43.43 | Estil | this guy plays it on ITG2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df012p-FGds |
| 18:43.47 | Industrial | when you both suckit doesnt matter :D |
| 18:45.10 | Zhinjio | I think I'm gonna go hit another couple songs on GHIII, now that you meantion it |
| 18:45.31 | Industrial | Estil: lol nice |
| 18:45.44 | Stanzilla | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw <- teh funneh |
| 18:46.55 | Estil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mRihWN2Zys <-- pump it up NX, Chimera nightmare mode |
| 18:49.09 | Amadeo | Chimera!? |
| 18:49.15 | Estil | yas? |
| 18:49.45 | Amadeo | Sounds too hard, I could probably do Nightmare mode, but not Chimera |
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| 18:50.29 | Estil | chimera is one of those uber difficult ones |
| 18:50.49 | Amadeo | any Furbolg modes? |
| 18:51.17 | Estil | not that I know of D: |
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| 18:52.28 | Amadeo | Lay it On the Floor TX - Murloc Purgatory Mode |
| 18:57.11 | Estil | the hardest thing in pump it up nx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkGAghwn-pU |
| 19:00.56 | Industrial | sdfjgk;gl |
| 19:00.58 | Industrial | damnit |
| 19:01.00 | Industrial | fraps is fucking up |
| 19:01.08 | Industrial | 1. it doesnt do sound |
| 19:01.16 | [Ammo] | it does sound |
| 19:01.18 | [Ammo] | you just fail |
| 19:01.23 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:01.29 | Industrial | 2. now it suddenly stops at 260mb |
| 19:01.39 | Gnarfoz | disk full :D |
| 19:01.39 | haste | get a larger disc |
| 19:01.52 | Industrial | hi2u 155gb free |
| 19:02.04 | haste | not enough! |
| 19:02.17 | Estil | update fraps? |
| 19:02.27 | Industrial | I have 1.9.3 (latest) |
| 19:02.34 | Gnarfoz | err? |
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| 19:02.40 | Industrial | 2.9.3 |
| 19:02.41 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:02.44 | Gnarfoz | right. |
| 19:03.50 | Industrial | http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/480/49220479wc2.png |
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| 19:05.46 | Osstia|mac | seals are man |
| 19:05.50 | Osstia|mac | they are picking on penguins |
| 19:05.59 | Amadeo | No, seals are woman! |
| 19:06.04 | Industrial | lets club them? |
| 19:06.13 | Osstia|mac | s/man/mean |
| 19:06.19 | Amadeo | Club them into a remix? |
| 19:06.31 | Industrial | that will void the warranty :( |
| 19:06.38 | Industrial | (seal broken) |
| 19:06.47 | Osstia|mac | ouch |
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| 19:07.59 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:08.15 | Amadeo | arf arf arf! |
| 19:09.08 | Industrial | seabert! :D |
| 19:09.40 | Industrial | [Ammo]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxnRFplxGc |
| 19:09.41 | Industrial | lulz |
| 19:09.55 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: you *did* try altering those settings, right |
| 19:10.25 | Industrial | yep |
| 19:10.49 | Gnarfoz | also changed the recording device that is actually selected in the windows controls for that? |
| 19:11.08 | Gnarfoz | hmmm food |
| 19:12.06 | Industrial | there is only one choice |
| 19:12.18 | dabujo | maybe try http://sourceforge.net/projects/taksi/ |
| 19:12.54 | Industrial | installing that now |
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| 19:14.14 | Industrial | Taksi Config: TODO: Audio doesnt actually work yet. |
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| 19:16.08 | Fin | 2014 <-- [Foreverl]: Dear fellow players,you can always have our courtious service,fast delivery and safe gold at [http://www.wow-europe.xxcnxx] |
| 19:16.26 | Fin | (minus the xs) |
| 19:16.29 | dabujo | Industrial: oops ^^ |
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| 19:22.53 | Industrial | hm, is there a taksi irc channel? cant find it |
| 19:28.00 | dabujo | Industrial: i also don't know :( |
| 19:28.29 | MoonWitch | Industrial: what happened to your gcode? |
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| 19:33.30 | Sheltem | hello, anyone around? |
| 19:33.57 | [dRaCo] | sure |
| 19:34.11 | Fin | hello |
| 19:34.23 | Sheltem | hey, can you guys answer a silly question about omen? |
| 19:35.13 | Sheltem | I seem to have closed off the window and the bubble completely, it's still active in wow, but I cant interface with it anymore, how can I bring it back up? |
| 19:35.47 | Civrock | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.54 | MoonWitch | ^^ what he said |
| 19:36.55 | Sheltem | awesome, thanks. |
| 19:38.09 | Sheltem | ::pokes Kemayo:: |
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| 19:43.31 | Firelemming | hi all |
| 19:43.48 | Firelemming | where can i find info about creating modular addons and LoD addons? |
| 19:45.46 | [dRaCo] | tried the wiki? |
| 19:45.56 | Firelemming | yes, but cant find it there |
| 19:46.02 | Firelemming | tried Ace forums |
| 19:46.33 | Fin | what did you search for, exactly? |
| 19:46.43 | Fin | "info about creating modular addons" is a bit vague |
| 19:47.03 | Fin | Load on Demand stuff, I'm sure there's information about that on the wiki |
| 19:47.48 | Firelemming | well how to start with it, i have never made a modular addon before, neither a LoD one wich i think (dunno) is almost the same |
| 19:48.17 | Matrix110 | checking out LoD addons would be a good idea |
| 19:48.19 | Fin | what do you mean by "modular addon"? |
| 19:48.40 | Firelemming | like cartographer, you have different modules that you can enable for it |
| 19:48.54 | Firelemming | or bigwings, deadly boss mods |
| 19:49.04 | Fin | have you had a look at the cartographer code? |
| 19:49.09 | Fin | have you written any other addons before? |
| 19:49.22 | bigzero | anyone know the function to use item in trinket slot 1 off the top of their head? |
| 19:49.24 | Firelemming | i have written some before but not on that level yet |
| 19:49.48 | Fin | it's a good idea to start with looking at some existing code, like Matrix110 said |
| 19:50.39 | Matrix110 | and hope that somebody wrote it where you can read the code :P |
| 19:50.41 | Firelemming | not easy because they have so much code arround it :) |
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| 19:51.24 | Fin | your question is something like "where can I find information about cooking hot food?" |
| 19:51.41 | Firelemming | hmm more, like how to cook |
| 19:51.53 | Firelemming | but im sure there is info about that :) |
| 19:52.00 | Fin | really? |
| 19:52.10 | Fin | if you searched for "how to cook" online, would you get many useful pages? |
| 19:52.26 | Fin | normally people start off with slightly more specific questions |
| 19:52.29 | Fin | although, I dunno |
| 19:52.47 | Firelemming | well there is atleast something to find. but i cant find any code examples nor tutorials about LoD's |
| 19:53.34 | Fin | if you don't know what you're looking for exactly (you said you didn't know if modular addons were the same as LoD addons), it might be best to find that out first perhaps |
| 19:53.34 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57920 10/branches/GatherMate/GatherMate.lua: changed id generation to always be numbers |
| 19:53.35 | Firelemming | i mean, how to share information like wiki if nobody writes it, doesnt mean it can be found easly |
| 19:54.06 | Fin | that's why I chose the phrase "hot food" - if you searched for that there won't be much about "hot food" specifically |
| 19:54.38 | Firelemming | but there are people that do know how to point you in a certain directions |
| 19:54.58 | Fin | the directions are: wiki, forums, existing code |
| 19:55.07 | Firelemming | :S |
| 19:55.48 | Fin | well, never mind then, just trying to help. perhaps someone else has a better answer for you. |
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| 19:56.54 | Firelemming | i hope |
| 20:00.39 | Fin | you're welcome |
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| 20:00.45 | Firelemming | ty |
| 20:01.44 | Shadowed | Cryect: Ping |
| 20:03.43 | kagaro | Ammo: ping |
| 20:06.04 | ramoz | wiwgead skiw fir abtibe ekse? |
| 20:06.06 | ramoz | err |
| 20:06.13 | ramoz | wowhead slow for anyone else? |
| 20:06.51 | Fin | I take that back, it is actually slow |
| 20:06.55 | Fin | atm |
| 20:07.10 | bigzero | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29336 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32508 with 2 4agi/6stam gems for a druid tank? |
| 20:08.25 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r47f5c10536 10./TourGuide_Alliance/32_33_Arathi_Highlands.lua: Arathi cleanup |
| 20:08.26 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rc651abe466 10./ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add |T| tag. Makes objectives show up with a green background, used to indicate the player should be doing things in a "town" |
| 20:08.26 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rb8ce534676 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (64_65_Terokkar.lua 67_70_Netherstorm.lua): Ally guide fixes |
| 20:08.27 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r80b4c6e951 10./: Merge branch 'AllyTweaks' |
| 20:08.32 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r8a5db9c48a 10./TourGuide_Alliance/32_33_Arathi_Highlands.lua: User ally arathi tweaks |
| 20:08.40 | [SW]Dodge | depends onn what you need... if you need defensrating mark of the ravenguard |
| 20:08.58 | [SW]Dodge | mhm |
| 20:08.58 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57921 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua GatherMate.lua): do an unregister of events during combat to avoid parsing |
| 20:09.42 | [SW]Dodge | then you have to decide... more stamina or more agi(dodge etc) |
| 20:10.14 | [SW]Dodge | if you think you have enough stam and defense rating get the necklace of teh deep |
| 20:12.23 | [SW]Dodge | if you can get both try out wich is the best :P |
| 20:12.28 | [SW]Dodge | bigzero: ping =) |
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| 20:16.54 | Osstia|mac | I have noticed there are addons that display info from wowead. Are there in game methods for retreiving HTTP? |
| 20:17.20 | Funkeh` | you cannot access the internet ingame |
| 20:17.44 | Osstia|mac | How do the quest mods that show data from wowhead work? Do they cahe that info? |
| 20:18.04 | Osstia|mac | s/cahe/cache/ |
| 20:18.12 | NightHawkTheSane | people run scripts outside wow that download the info, parse it, and write it to lua data files |
| 20:18.17 | Funkeh` | Well obviously :p |
| 20:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | or have you never actually looked at lightheaded's code? :P |
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| 20:19.18 | Osstia|mac | I never have. I should go look at it |
| 20:19.31 | Osstia|mac | I didn't know the name of any of the addons. I have just seen one in use |
| 20:20.10 | Fin | mobmapupdater, lightheaded, cartographer, qcomment |
| 20:20.13 | Fin | there you go |
| 20:20.51 | Ripdog | ugh -.- is the latest revision of bartender broken for you guys? paging, to be specific |
| 20:20.58 | Fin | no |
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| 20:21.26 | Ripdog | its started paging bar 1 when i specifically set it to not page when shifting to moonkin |
| 20:23.36 | ckknight | Tekkub: using git or something else? |
| 20:23.56 | Fisker- | yeah he's using git |
| 20:23.59 | Fisker- | that git |
| 20:23.59 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:24.10 | ckknight | I'm very fond of git |
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| 20:26.12 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: MountMe needs a check if it has a link on line 132 |
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| 20:26.27 | [Ammo] | if link and items[i] and ... |
| 20:26.47 | [Ammo] | otherwise it bugs out without a trinket equipped normally :) |
| 20:28.12 | marco0009 | ckknight: Did you ever find out why my call to UnregisterAllParserEvents wasn't working? |
| 20:28.20 | ckknight | I believe I fell asleep |
| 20:28.30 | ckknight | send me your code? |
| 20:28.37 | marco0009 | Lemme find the link agian |
| 20:28.40 | [Ammo] | or rather string.match(link or "", matchstr) |
| 20:28.55 | marco0009 | http://ace.pastey.net/80080 |
| 20:29.14 | ckknight | wrong link? |
| 20:29.16 | marco0009 | yea |
| 20:29.17 | marco0009 | sry |
| 20:29.20 | marco0009 | http://ace.pastey.net/80078 |
| 20:29.21 | marco0009 | that one |
| 20:29.58 | ckknight | and "Unreg" definitely does print? |
| 20:30.02 | marco0009 | Yep |
| 20:30.57 | ckknight | hrm, I can't see why it wouldn't unregister |
| 20:31.04 | ckknight | you could add some debug lines to the library code |
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| 20:32.59 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57922 10/branches/GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: added rare node id maps |
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| 20:39.23 | Zariel | Any have a link to the Hal texture? |
| 20:40.12 | Stanzilla | go look at the elitistjerks forum |
| 20:40.15 | Stanzilla | ui thread |
| 20:40.18 | Stanzilla | ~page 72 |
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| 20:40.42 | Ozguli` | awesome... my guildies call me Face |
| 20:41.03 | Stanzilla | hm lol |
| 20:41.06 | Stanzilla | Zariel: http://www.ryanmast.tv/Hal_Textures.zip |
| 20:41.11 | Stanzilla | had the tab still open^^ |
| 20:41.15 | Zariel | danke |
| 20:41.26 | Stanzilla | bitte |
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| 20:43.06 | Zariel | Do you have to exit game to load tga files or can you just reloadui? |
| 20:43.33 | Stanzilla | exit |
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| 20:48.23 | bigzero | 12 agility or 12 dodge rating for a druid tank? |
| 20:48.55 | Lukian | agi = crit = lotp procs. |
| 20:49.02 | Lukian | take your pick :) |
| 20:49.31 | Lukian | one = more threat and more healing; the other results in less healing needed. |
| 20:49.41 | bigzero | agi also = armor and dodge, so seems like agi >> dodge |
| 20:49.49 | Lukian | that is true :) |
| 20:50.29 | Lukian | you should be well capable (as a druid) to not mind about 0.4% dodge or such |
| 20:51.49 | TNSe | in general |
| 20:51.52 | TNSe | warrior: combat rating |
| 20:51.54 | TNSe | druid: stats |
| 20:55.09 | Ozguli` | rogue tanks stack agi and combat stats |
| 20:55.24 | Ozguli` | wlocks stam and .. well I don't know |
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| 21:08.46 | mitch1 | yo |
| 21:09.07 | mitch1 | is dev.wowace.com permanently out of order, or just a temporary DNS hickup? |
| 21:10.12 | Fin | I'd put money on a temporary DNS fuckup |
| 21:10.24 | Fin | seems to happen quite regularly |
| 21:10.25 | mitch1 | okey, thanks |
| 21:10.30 | Ellipsis | it was the gnomes |
| 21:10.38 | Fin | isn't it always |
| 21:10.45 | mitch1 | svn.wowace.com still resolves though... |
| 21:10.47 | mitch1 | strange |
| 21:14.36 | Fin | yeah |
| 21:14.52 | Fin | as far as I can make out, it's basically just a shitty DNS provider |
| 21:15.02 | Fin | first time I experienced it was months ago, seen it off and on since then |
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| 21:24.39 | marco0009 | ckknight: I can't seem to get the for loop in the library unregister function to run at all. Even when I define events/eventTypes it doesn't enter. |
| 21:25.51 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 21:28.23 | Xinhuan | ckknight, did i ever mention your :AddEventListener() contract checking disallows passing in functions? :) |
| 21:28.48 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:28.51 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 21:28.54 | Xinhuan | but the documentation and code allows passing in functions, so turning on contract checking will cause _Routes to fail |
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| 21:32.19 | Xinhuan | should be easy to fix |
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| 21:38.41 | Zariel | can you anchor eepanels to another eepanel? |
| 21:40.33 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro 07Artwork * r57923 10GatherMate/ (84 files in 5 dirs): GatherMate: inital icons |
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| 21:42.15 | Orionshock | kagaro: ping |
| 21:42.21 | kagaro | yo |
| 21:42.38 | kagaro | Orionshock: sup |
| 21:43.19 | Orionshock | just wondering why you included all the ace3 libs with in your addon as additional files instead of making them an external? |
| 21:43.35 | kagaro | waiting till release, to make them externals |
| 21:43.48 | Orionshock | is not beta, just that... beta? |
| 21:43.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ... why does it matter? |
| 21:44.12 | kagaro | hence whhy I put it in a branch, no where near public ready |
| 21:44.13 | Orionshock | NightHawkTheSane: simple question, i don't think is has that much significance |
| 21:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: er, rather, i meant why does it matter whether itss released before setting externals :P |
| 21:44.49 | Orionshock | simplification of setup |
| 21:45.16 | Orionshock | i |
| 21:45.32 | NightHawkTheSane | but.. it.. has to be done eventually anyway |
| 21:46.01 | Orionshock | i've got my own addons that i make, that use ace3 i saw no need or use to include the files. just wondering what the motivation was. |
| 21:46.04 | Amadeo | lol, just saw the Toyota WoW commercial during the NFL Playoffs |
| 21:47.05 | kagaro | was just following tekkub's post suggestion |
| 21:47.23 | ulic | Amadeo: yea, it gets me everytime |
| 21:47.41 | Orionshock | practical vs politically correct is not always the same thing.... |
| 21:47.46 | ulic | Amadeo: the new Vern whatever his name is mage one I've even seen in HD, blizzard spending the big bucks. |
| 21:48.06 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 21:58.09 | thul | hy |
| 21:58.37 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57924 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Add talent choices to saving and loading profiles. Add text to show talent details in "compared against" profile. Change data format slightly. |
| 21:59.33 | Xinhuan | now the hard part... code in the actual calculations! |
| 21:59.36 | Daemona | Xinhuan wowequip can consider specs? |
| 21:59.44 | Xinhuan | soon... |
| 21:59.52 | Daemona | <3 |
| 21:59.58 | Xinhuan | it wont' consider base stats stil |
| 22:00.00 | Xinhuan | still |
| 22:00.04 | Xinhuan | only whatever is added from gear |
| 22:00.22 | Daemona | can't you extract base stats from the currently player stats? |
| 22:00.27 | Xinhuan | but +15% int to spelldamage, would at least be correct from gear |
| 22:00.32 | Daemona | just check current gear and remove stuff? |
| 22:00.37 | Xinhuan | its harder than you think |
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| 22:00.49 | Daemona | thats what itembonuslib is for Xinhuan :) |
| 22:01.06 | Xinhuan | itembonuslib isn't right all the time even |
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| 22:01.38 | Xinhuan | also its not feasible, given the 200 different buffs and talents that can affect stats |
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| 22:01.51 | Xinhuan | and how racials affect them |
| 22:01.58 | Xinhuan | and the order of adding/multiplying |
| 22:02.06 | Xinhuan | for eg, spirit of redemption, +5% spirit |
| 22:02.14 | Xinhuan | how does that stack with Human racial +10% spirit? |
| 22:02.36 | Xinhuan | do you know? |
| 22:02.39 | Xinhuan | i sure as hell don't |
| 22:04.02 | Xinhuan | now add in all the possible funky buffs like Kings, divine spirit (improved or not?), GotW (improved or not?) |
| 22:04.09 | Xinhuan | its darn near impossible |
| 22:04.35 | thul | my mac is disbehaving :-( |
| 22:05.19 | kagaro | Xinhuan spirit of redemtion is cumulative |
| 22:05.36 | Orionshock | hey Xinhuan , i've got a druid i'll blank my spec on if u need some testing |
| 22:05.40 | kagaro | with the racial |
| 22:05.51 | Xinhuan | the math hurts my brain ;p |
| 22:06.44 | Orionshock | lol |
| 22:08.15 | Xinhuan | i gotta multiply in the talents that modify +% stats first, then calc the stuff that is depended on those stats, then add in the stuff that is modified after that by straight +X, then multiply in the stuff that add +% (like max health, max mana) |
| 22:08.26 | Xinhuan | i think? ~_~ |
| 22:08.39 | Xinhuan | and i need to total up all the similar +X first before i multiply them |
| 22:09.04 | Orionshock | PEMDAS |
| 22:10.02 | Xinhuan | its not exactly helping me that general +crit and +hit affects both melee and ranged attacks |
| 22:10.11 | Xinhuan | but half the talents only add to one or the other |
| 22:10.54 | CIA-8 | 03dotted * r57925 10Recap/Recap.toc: Recap: Fix TOC |
| 22:12.04 | bigzero | is it just me or wowhead is sluggish today? |
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| 22:19.05 | CIA-8 | 03kagaro * r57926 10/branches/GatherMate/ (Collector.lua Constants.lua GatherMate.lua): GatherMate: updates for more const and icon stuff |
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| 22:24.39 | bigzero | why doesn't windows support wap2 by default? you have to install it yourself...not on the update site |
| 22:24.57 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 22:25.02 | nymbia | because that would make too much sense |
| 22:25.26 | Arrowmaster | i had to install that update a few times on my friends sisters laptop from her school |
| 22:25.44 | bigzero | i guess it was a bad question...no one know why the hell microsoft does half the stuff it does |
| 22:26.01 | nymbia | ow |
| 22:26.07 | Fisker- | :) |
| 22:26.18 | Arrowmaster | was that update out before sp2? |
| 22:26.26 | bigzero | no |
| 22:26.35 | bigzero | it's failry recent |
| 22:26.40 | bigzero | well, within last year |
| 22:27.06 | nymbia | still, wouldnt hurt to make it an automatic security update. |
| 22:27.12 | bigzero | indeed |
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| 22:27.39 | nymbia | people might see the WPA2 option on their router, then see that their computer doesnt list it and so not use it |
| 22:27.58 | Fisker- | you're telling me that people learn from reasing? |
| 22:28.00 | Fisker- | reading* |
| 22:28.08 | nymbia | no |
| 22:28.29 | [dRaCo] | people might see the option on their router, dont know what it means, turn it on anyway and then wonder why their w-lan doesnt work anymore |
| 22:28.37 | nymbia | lol |
| 22:28.40 | Fisker- | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=662BB74D-E7C1-48D6-95EE-1459234F4483&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;displaylang=en&displaylang=en |
| 22:28.44 | Fisker- | Date Published: 4/29/2005 |
| 22:28.45 | Fisker- | OWNT |
| 22:28.48 | bigzero | usually it falls back to WAP |
| 22:29.14 | Arrowmaster | some routers support WPA2+WPA |
| 22:29.16 | bigzero | fine...so i live in 2006 |
| 22:29.31 | Arrowmaster | others will only use WPA2 if you enable WPA2 |
| 22:29.54 | bigzero | but sp2 is still older than that Fisker- |
| 22:30.09 | Arrowmaster | wheres our sp3 |
| 22:30.24 | nymbia | best to stick with just WPA2.. WPA isnt all that secure |
| 22:30.29 | Fisker- | i know bigzero |
| 22:30.35 | nymbia | and everything supports it that matters |
| 22:30.48 | Fisker- | i hate it that they call it WPA2-Personal |
| 22:30.51 | Fisker- | suck my cock |
| 22:30.58 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 22:31.01 | nymbia | well unless you've got a radius server sitting around |
| 22:31.10 | bigzero | what's the difference between personal and what's the other one Bussiness? |
| 22:31.15 | bigzero | corporate? |
| 22:31.16 | Arrowmaster | you prefer calling it WPA2-PSK? |
| 22:31.24 | Fisker- | yes Arrowmaster |
| 22:31.28 | nymbia | WPA2-PSK (personal) uses a preshared key |
| 22:31.45 | nymbia | WPA2 enterprise uses a radius auth/cert server |
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| 23:01.02 | Fisker- | damn nymbia |
| 23:01.11 | Fisker- | i just peed |
| 23:01.13 | Fisker- | (in your pants) |
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| 23:03.18 | nymbia | hot |
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| 23:05.12 | Fisker- | nah my pee is cold |
| 23:05.43 | Cryect | Your body refridgerates your pee? |
| 23:06.12 | Fisker- | yup |
| 23:06.17 | Cryect | interesting! |
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| 23:09.18 | haste | Fisker-: /who carrlmoot go! |
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| 23:10.39 | haste | Fisker-: nvm, he ressed :---D |
| 23:11.32 | Fisker- | what level are you? |
| 23:11.58 | steino | " |
| 23:12.02 | Sole | how does WoWhead pay the bills? I see no advertising on their website |
| 23:12.17 | Lukian | Sole, omg adblocker |
| 23:12.25 | Matrix110 | by being owned by IGE Sole :P |
| 23:12.30 | Lukian | Sole, maybe they disabled them due to load issues atm |
| 23:12.42 | haste | Fisker-: 51 |
| 23:13.00 | haste | Fisker-: ganking carrlmoot atm |
| 23:13.11 | haste | since he tried to gank me D: |
| 23:13.17 | Sole | lol adblocker <3 firefox |
| 23:13.18 | steino | gankertravi |
| 23:13.27 | Sole | there they are in IE |
| 23:13.36 | haste | Fisker-: hopefully he thinks it was worth killing me once |
| 23:14.22 | haste | Fisker-: damn, he got away while I wrote that :p |
| 23:14.42 | haste | haha |
| 23:14.45 | haste | he logged :---D |
| 23:14.46 | haste | victory |
| 23:15.42 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 23:20.22 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57927 10AnalogClock/AnalogClock.lua: AnalogClock: add proper line with permission from iriel |
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| 23:26.13 | Vexir | Why does simple mini map keep resetting the zoom every 30 seconds or so? |
| 23:26.24 | *** join/#wowace Provus (n=UPP@ip68-97-142-183.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:26.35 | Gnarfoz | because you didn't disable that option and it's on by default |
| 23:26.37 | Lukian | Vexir, I think it's an option |
| 23:26.46 | Vexir | where? |
| 23:27.27 | Gnarfoz | SMM's options? |
| 23:27.33 | Provus | Does anyone know of a very customizeable timers addon? I read up on a way to customize MSBT to give an alert that tells you polymorph has been broken by looking at the combat log. I was hoping to get a 17 second DR timer to also start when this happens as well. |
| 23:27.41 | Xinhuan | you might find the checkbox if you look hard enough |
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| 23:27.49 | Vexir | ah autozoom |
| 23:27.52 | Vexir | i didnt see that before =\ |
| 23:28.25 | thul | sounds like a simple enough python-log-parsing thing Provus ? :-P |
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| 23:30.32 | Orionshock | Provus: NECB |
| 23:30.36 | Orionshock | if it still works... |
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| 23:32.09 | thul | it does |
| 23:44.19 | thul | I almost feel like going some elemental pvp at 70 :-P |
| 23:49.04 | Provus | Orion: the problem with NECB is that it comes with a bunch of other stuff I don't want, and the DR timer isn't accurate due to a game bug |
| 23:49.29 | Ozguli` | I've found the DR timer to be quite accurate on my rogue |
| 23:49.35 | Ozguli` | at least when stunlocking alone |
| 23:50.04 | thul | same here |
| 23:50.11 | Provus | Well it's bugged for polymorph |
| 23:50.14 | Provus | 17 seconds instead of 15 |
| 23:50.34 | Provus | Affix submitted the bug which is how I found out about it, and it seems to be accurate. |
| 23:50.48 | Provus | Plus, NECB removes the timer whenever you switch targets.. |
| 23:50.50 | Provus | And that's not good. |
| 23:52.16 | thul | that is a conf-matter? |
| 23:52.17 | thul | or? |
| 23:52.43 | Provus | ..er? |
| 23:52.53 | Provus | a what? |
| 23:53.02 | Gnarfoz | a matter of configuration |
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| 23:53.10 | thul | yup |
| 23:53.10 | Provus | No, it's not something I've been able to midfy |
| 23:53.12 | Provus | modify* |
| 23:53.14 | thul | hmm? |
| 23:53.20 | thul | you can choose to have bars on non-targeded mobs |
| 23:53.41 | Provus | Yes but doing that opens the floodgate |
| 23:53.44 | Provus | To everything. |
| 23:53.52 | Provus | Over just wanting a diminishing returns timer. |
| 23:54.37 | Provus | NECB is a very all or nothing addon. |
| 23:55.19 | Gnarfoz | necb is a very bloaty addon :D |
| 23:55.32 | thul | you say that like it is a negative thing:P |
| 23:55.55 | Provus | It's just kind of stupid that I'm using NECB for only one thing at this point. |
| 23:56.18 | Provus | And the one thing I use it for isn't accurate. |
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| 23:56.24 | Provus | Not to mention, doesn't work all that well. |
| 23:57.24 | Vexir | Does Grid have an option to display a mana bar? |
| 23:57.42 | Gnarfoz | Vexir: Grid_Manabars or whatever. |
| 23:57.51 | Vexir | Ah, I have to download it? |
| 23:58.24 | Gnarfoz | you can also probably have it printet out and sent to you, but downloading would be faster :> |
| 23:58.31 | Vexir | lol |
| 23:58.34 | Gnarfoz | s/ntet/nted/ |
| 23:59.05 | Gnarfoz | http://files.wowace.com/sw-g.html |
| 23:59.09 | Gnarfoz | GridManaBars |
| 23:59.21 | Lukian | LOL |
