IRC log for #wowace on 20080102

00:00.27Pkekyo|christ....we spent six months raiding to build that gbank
00:00.44Shirik|AFKKillmore: no
00:00.51Lukianare you sure he's not joking? :D
00:00.53Shirik|AFKif they were a friendly, you could guess
00:01.07Pkekyo|Lukian: the gbank is empty
00:01.27LukianPkekyo|, so maybe he's renaming the guild and moved it to another bank? :p
00:01.30ShirikSee, GMs are ftl
00:01.36ShirikYou should have a council at the top :)
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00:02.22Pkekyo|Lukian: it's a ghost guild...no reason to rename it...beside, it's the best gbank ever
00:02.29Pkekyo|guildname, not best gbank
00:02.30Pkekyo|rofl
00:04.30Pkekyo|guild name: Cult of the Frisky Goat... logo: http://www.cotfg.co.uk/images/main_txt_w.jpg (upper left)
00:04.55Fisker-i shoot you in the face Pkekyo|
00:04.59Fisker-i'm sowwy
00:05.08Lukianooo that's awesome Pkekyo| ::D
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00:05.22Pkekyo|Lukian: why would you rename a guild like that?! /shrug
00:05.30Pkekyo|Fisker-: why you shooting me?
00:05.41Fisker-because you suck ;(
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00:07.16Pkekyo|rofl, thanks
00:08.27Fisker-i require additional sleep.
00:08.44AmadeoI require more vespene gas
00:09.04Pkekyo|Fisker-: go to bed then
00:09.39Pkekyo|why does a search for 'vespene' on wikipedia redirect you to starcraft?
00:09.48Shirikwhy not?
00:09.51ZiconWhy wouldn't it?
00:10.16Pkekyo|I don't know
00:10.22Pkekyo|I was trying to find out what vespene was :<
00:11.08Pkekyo|(this would be the appropriate time for someone to tell me)
00:11.47Shirik~wiki Vespene
00:12.13Shirikoh they don't have it anywhere in that article
00:12.13Shirikthat sucks
00:12.27Shirikso you're saying the phrase "We require more vespene gas" means nothing to you?
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00:13.31Pkekyo|yes
00:13.41Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
00:14.07Shirikdid you play warcraft?
00:14.10Shirik(not wow)
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00:14.45Pkekyo|only wc3
00:14.53Pkekyo|and the expansion
00:14.56Shirikok, without going into details, it's starcraft's "wood"
00:15.05Pkekyo|oh
00:15.07Pkekyo|makes sense then
00:15.19Shirikbut it's so much more than that :P
00:15.23Pkekyo|I should play starcraft :<
00:15.25Pkekyo|rofl Shirik
00:15.28elsewhereis there an issue with waterfall and the text type is validating with a table but not multi-toggle displaying the actual value if you change option groups and then go back and view that group again?
00:15.46Pkekyo|reckon a lvl 57 quest will give me good xp at lvl 53?
00:15.55Shirikno
00:16.01Pkekyo|11k xp
00:16.04Shirikbut if it's a grinding quest, do it anyway
00:16.14Pkekyo|just completed it...gave me 11k
00:16.25Shirikthen do it anyway
00:16.49Pkekyo|allready did, i say :p
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00:17.00Pkekyo|got my first proper trinket :)
00:17.01Shirikgood
00:17.55ShirikI'm glad you took my advise
00:18.21Pkekyo|lol
00:19.46CIA-8tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rdd0bf9d5a4 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (12 files):
00:19.46CIA-8tekkub-wow: Tweaking ally guides to use |PRE| tag
00:19.46CIA-8tekkub-wow:  * Terokkar is no longer Aldor-specific
00:19.46CIA-8tekkub-wow:  * Netherstorm now handles Aldor questline... need someone to make/test Scryers
00:21.19Xinhuanbigzero ping - read ingame
00:23.25Pkekyo|zomg they're cybering! O.o
00:23.43bigzeroyou know it
00:24.59Xinhuanhehe
00:25.29CIA-8tekkub-wow: 03Paul Newsham <paul.newsham@gmail.com> 07master * re87605f1d7 10./TourGuide_Horde/37_38_Dustwallow_Marsh.lua: User fixes to horde dustwallow
00:25.31Xinhuanelsewhere: i understood nothing of what you typed ;p
00:25.58Xinhuanmaybe you should rephrase
00:27.21Pkekyo|rolled a toon on an RP realm once
00:27.28elsewhereokay, in an options group, i have a text option type, it validates from a table of options, but isn't a multi-toggle, i can select the setting i want from the dropdown, but if i change to anoth page of options in the watefall config, or close the config screen and reopen, it doesn't display the selected settings, though it is still set
00:27.30Pkekyo|first thing I saw was two nelfs cybering
00:27.43Pkekyo|that's also when I stopped playing in RP servers
00:28.36KivinSanrofl...
00:28.37LukianPkekyo|, hot. what server was it?
00:29.23elsewheremy get line seems fine.... get = function(key) return MouseTarget.db.profile.button1[key] end
00:30.04elsewhereand this doesn't seem to affect text options types that do use multi-toggle, as i have one in there and it displays the settings fine
00:30.46Nargiddleyif its not a multitoggle it doesnt have a key to send
00:31.30Xinhuanwhat is your "get" function
00:31.34Pkekyo|Lukian: can't remember...two years ago...also, you nasty!
00:31.39Xinhuanfor that text option type
00:31.49LukianPkekyo|, I <3 cyber
00:31.57Xinhuanit should be returning the "key" for your options table
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00:32.12Xinhuanit should be returning the "key" for your validate table i mean
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00:33.03elsewhereyeah, i need to rethink my validation table, thanks for the help. gotta run. wife is giving me a stern look. i must've done something wrong again, lol
00:33.49Pkekyo|damnit, castbars doesn't work for me anymore
00:33.59Pkekyo|they just dissapear when the cast has lasted for like 0.5 sec
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00:37.30Pkekyo|DING
00:46.51Xinhuanhttp://www.myndflame.com/
00:46.54Xinhuanhmm new movie isn't up yet
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00:49.12CIA-803xinhuan 07Talents * r57778 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Finally fill in all the missing enchantIDs.
00:51.04Xinhuanhmm that extra folder layer kinda sucks
00:51.12Xinhuanmaybe i should delete it and rebranch
00:51.26bigzerocan't you just move it
00:51.31bigzerowithin the svn
00:51.50Xinhuani'm not exactly sure how stupid CIA reports it
00:51.51Fisker-hai
00:51.58Xinhuanhttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/WoWEquip/Talents/WoWEquip/*.* is where all the files are currently at
00:52.44bigzerowhere do you want them?
00:52.47Fisker-btw
00:52.50Xinhuanno idea
00:52.55Xinhuan;d
00:52.59Fisker-when was it blizzard will be having a OMG PODCAST?
00:53.11Xinhuani guess i don't really care
00:53.16bigzero..ok...what do you want cia to display?
00:53.37Xinhuanit shouldn't go WoWEquip/WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua, that's one too many wowequips ;d
00:54.02bigzeroI'm gonna experiment a little...
00:55.55CIA-803bigzero * r57779 10/branches/WoWEquip/test.txt: testing
00:56.25Xinhuanall the files should probably just be one folder level up
00:56.54CIA-803bigzero 07Talents * r57780 10WoWEquip/test.txt: 1m ore test
00:57.19bigzeroyeah...so it seems
00:57.37Xinhuanbut if i move the files remotely, then switching to it might break
00:58.17CIA-803bigzero * r57781 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (Talents/test.txt test.txt): undoing test commits
00:58.31bigzerowhy?
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00:58.45Xinhuani don't know, it just might
00:59.07bigzeromove them remotely, then delete your folders and recheckout
01:00.32bigzeroare you doing it? 'cause I'm about to try it
01:00.47Xinhuantry it if you want
01:01.51Xinhuanbut that probably wouldn't preserve the folder externals
01:02.16CIA-803bigzero 07Talents * r57782 10WoWEquip/ (11 files in 2 dirs): rearranging folder structure
01:02.29bigzerowhy is it called Talents anyway?
01:02.40Xinhuanadding talent support
01:02.43MudkipzOMFG YES
01:02.53Fisker-OMFG NO
01:02.55Mudkipzi forgot my router password
01:02.57Fisker-also
01:02.59Pkekyo|what does WoWEquip do?
01:02.59Fisker-your mother Mudkipz
01:03.05Mudkipzand I didn't want to reset the freakin thing
01:03.13Xinhuanit is a ingame ct-profiles basically
01:03.15Mudkipzi was guessing right now and bam
01:03.17Mudkipzlogged in
01:03.22MudkipzGG all
01:03.38Mudkipznow I can turn wireless back on so I can mess with my psp
01:03.50Fisker-you must construct additional sleep
01:04.01XinhuanPkekyo|, couple of screenshots on mmo-champion front page if you care ;p
01:04.08Mudkipzso
01:04.17Mudkipzhow was everyone's new years?
01:04.23Xinhuani slept thru all of it
01:04.35Mudkipzoh :(
01:05.09bigzeroXinhuan, i think it's not really what you want the way it is now... CIA is just not smart enough. I'll revert it to the way it was
01:06.38Pkekyo|Xinhuan: cute
01:06.43Fisker-i can't sleep
01:06.49Fisker-you screwed up my biological clock
01:06.52Fisker-i'm going to sue you
01:06.58Fisker-got work in 3 hours
01:07.06Fisker-haven't slept for like 2 days now
01:07.20Fisker-think i'm gonna call in sick :(
01:07.28Fisker-which is your fault Pkekyo|
01:07.45Mudkipzway to blame other people for your problems fishbot2
01:07.47Mudkipzffs
01:07.51MudkipzFisker
01:08.00Mudkipzlook what you did to me
01:08.04Mudkipzc wut i did thar?
01:08.14Fisker-definitely
01:08.18Mudkipzo/
01:08.35Mudkipzso I got this psp as a late xmas present
01:08.49Mudkipzit feels strange having one
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01:10.54Pkekyo|Fisker-: what gave you the impression I care?
01:11.08Fisker-i am not Xinhuan
01:11.11Fisker-~fail Pkekyo|
01:11.12purlPkekyo|: Fail.
01:11.21Pkekyo|~lart Fisker-
01:11.21purlcuts Fisker- into thin stripes
01:11.25Fisker-~fail Pkekyo|
01:11.26purlPkekyo|: Fail.
01:11.35Pkekyo|~lart Fisker-
01:11.35purlnukes Fisker- with a single large nuke
01:11.40Fisker-~fail Pkekyo|
01:11.41purlPkekyo|: Fail.
01:11.50Fisker-you're not able to stop me
01:12.04Fisker-gonna try to get some sleep now though
01:12.20Fisker-before madness ensues
01:12.25Pkekyo|rofl
01:12.30Pkekyo|madness ensued you ages ago
01:12.36Pkekyo|as did blasphemy
01:12.37Xinhuanbigzero, i should probably just rebranch the whole thing
01:12.41Pkekyo|see what I did there?
01:13.24bigzeroXinhuan, maybe...I can't figure out how to revert changes, lol
01:13.33Xinhuanheh
01:13.45JoshBorkeyou suck Xinhuan
01:13.46Shirikrevert, commit
01:13.47Shirikit's not hard
01:14.07Shirik|zZzyou're on windows so I assume you're using tortoise
01:14.09bigzeroit won't let me do revert on a folder
01:14.56Shirik|zZzyes?
01:15.06Xinhuani am indeed on tortoise, and its completely out of sync since the folder changes on the branch can't be resolved on my end ;p
01:15.12Xinhuanat least not without rechecking out
01:15.19bigzeroso how am I supposed to get the deleted files back
01:15.40bigzeroXinhuan, updating doesn't work for you?
01:15.40Shirik|zZzright click, hit revert
01:15.44Shirik|zZzthat's it
01:15.49Xinhuannope, path doesn't exist
01:15.59Shirik|zZzanyway, nigth
01:16.24bigzeroright-click, revert gives me a window with an empty file list
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01:17.02bigzeroXinhuan, oh, that's because it doesn't...I'm stupid and moved all the files one dir up
01:17.16bigzeroand then realized that's not what you wanted
01:18.50Pkekyo|~dict mandible
01:19.01Pkekyo|~dict vertebrates
01:19.29bigzero~dict vertebrate
01:21.18Pkekyo|didn't know spiders were vertebrates
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01:22.51CIA-803xinhuan 07Talents * r57783 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Delete broken branch ;d
01:24.12Pkekyo|why the flying fuck would a mother give her kid 27 names? O.o
01:24.31bigzeroPkekyo| spiders aren't vertebrates
01:24.31CIA-803kemayo * r57784 10BuyCrap/ (BuyCrap.toc addon.lua config.lua):
01:24.31CIA-8BuyCrap:
01:24.31CIA-8-Split slashcommand stuff into its own file
01:24.31CIA-8-Merge the quantity needed function into the merchant loop
01:24.32CIA-8-AddonLoader support
01:24.47Pkekyo|bigzero: that's what I thought...why the hell do they then have mandibles?
01:25.11bigzerowhere did you read that?
01:25.25bigzerooh...wow
01:25.35Pkekyo|in my bags I have about 100 spider mandibles :p
01:25.54Pkekyo|didn't know what a mandible was, so I looked it up
01:26.17KemayoTo be fair, insects do have mandibles.  The ~dict response is inaccurate.
01:26.19bigzerohow do you make purl show the other results for dict querries?
01:26.28bigzeroit's just not all there
01:26.33bigzero<PROTECTED>
01:26.33bigzero<PROTECTED>
01:26.33bigzero<PROTECTED>
01:27.03bigzero~dict mandible
01:27.28bigzero~dict
01:27.37bigzero~dict mandible 2
01:27.50bigzero~dict 2 mandible
01:27.55bigzeroha
01:28.02Pkekyo|>.<
01:28.44bigzerodoesn't help, but at least now I know how to make it display the other result
01:28.59CIA-803xinhuan * r57785 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Finally fill in all the missing enchantIDs.
01:29.05bigzero~dict vertebrate
01:29.29bigzerowth...it was different like 5 minutes ago
01:29.53bigzero~dict vertebrate
01:30.10Pkekyo|~dict arthropod
01:30.17CIA-803xinhuan 07Talents * r57786 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Branch from r57785 to add talents support
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01:30.48Pkekyo|so a spider is an arthropod?
01:30.59bigzeroyeah
01:32.07bigzeroAnimalia Arthropoda Arachnida Araneae
01:32.32Pkekyo|wait, what?
01:32.44bigzeroKingdom Phylum Class Order
01:33.20bigzero~dict vertebrate
01:33.23Pkekyo|in the words of the great Sam L. Jackson: english, motherfucker, do you speak it?
01:33.45bigzeroclassification of Spider
01:33.56bigzeroforget it...lol
01:34.29vithosXinhuan: every time the raid group changes, the context menu for items in WoWEquip disappears
01:35.00Xinhuanlol, i used blizzard's UIDropDownMenu
01:35.01Pkekyo|~dict arachnid
01:35.11Xinhuanthe raid group code probably has code to call its menu to close
01:35.24Xinhuanso bad luck :)
01:35.27Pkekyo|any idea what "simple eyes" means?
01:35.50vithosah lol
01:35.52Xinhuaneven if i were to switch to dewdroplib, any addon's dewdrop:Close() could cause wowequip's menu to close
01:36.06Xinhuanbut i didn't use dewdroplib, just straight up blizzard's default menu UI
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01:37.08vithosPkekyo|: simple eye - an eye having a single lens
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01:39.39Pkekyo|meh, I should've paid attention in science class :p
01:41.13Pkekyo|meh...I should've paid attention in class, period
01:43.10Estilwe actually have to pay attention in class?
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01:44.16Pkekyo|Estil: it helps
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01:50.51CIA-8tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r751 10/trunk/Panda/PricePanel.lua: Panda - Add BC Prospecting items to price panel, and estimate on crushed value of FI/Adam. Price in (parens) assumes green gems are vendored
01:50.56CIA-8tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r751 10/trunk/Panda/PricePanel.lua: Panda - Add BC Prospecting items to price panel, and estimate on crushed value of FI/Adam. Price in (parens) assumes green gems are vendored
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01:57.40CIA-803tawerner * r57787 10Rep2/Rep2.lua:
01:57.40CIA-8Rep2:
01:57.40CIA-8- Fixed typo preventing further display after a change in standing
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02:03.16tekcubquestion for the jewelcrafters...
02:03.38tekcubyou make money off crushing for raw gems (blues I'm sure) or off cutting the gems?
02:04.06Superfly1both i guess
02:04.46tekcubwell I mean, do you ONLY cut them, or do you crush and sell the raws?
02:04.55tekcubor a mix of both?
02:05.22Superfly1well i dont have so much rare recips, so iusually crush them
02:05.39Superfly1but i think if you have a rare stuff you could make more money
02:05.52tekcubmake good profit on that? my estimates are only ~8% profit on adam
02:06.17tekcubjust debating if I should start crushing now (64) or wait till 70 to level it up
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02:06.33Superfly1well you have to invest a lot of money on patterns
02:06.51Superfly1my friend usually earns about 3-4k gold / weekend
02:07.11Pkekyo|what do you mean by "crush them"?
02:07.13tekcubhrm... true the patterns are mostly not BoP aren't they?
02:07.17Superfly1prospect
02:07.24tekcubprospecting + DE == crushing
02:07.35Superfly1well some patterns are bop
02:07.38tekcubI already DE for cash :)
02:07.41Superfly1some arent
02:07.47Superfly1me2 ;)
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02:07.58tekcubwas just wondering if it was worth it to take JC before I had patterns to cut
02:08.17Superfly1well you can still make money with prospect
02:08.20tekcuband was thinking I need 70 and instances for the majority of the good patterns
02:08.39Superfly1http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32410
02:08.49Superfly1i got this pattern from a 71er normal mob
02:08.59Superfly1and it is boe, and around 400g
02:09.33Superfly1http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32411 this one, sorry :)
02:10.54Pkekyo|tekcubprospecting + DE == crushing <---- DEing what? gems?
02:11.15bigzerohmmm, this is weird, I think you can spend charges on the refreshment table even if your inventory is full
02:11.18Superfly1green items
02:11.27Superfly1or blues
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02:11.36Superfly1arcane dust and etc
02:12.27bigzeropropecting = de'able items?
02:12.32bigzeroprospecting*
02:12.42Tekkubstupid internet
02:14.40Tekkub21 BoP blue patterns vs. 48 non-BoP ones
02:14.46Tekkubguess it's worth it then
02:15.38Superfly1yes , as i said before, you have to invest a lot
02:15.47Tekkubonly 4 of the blue BoPs are for gems too
02:15.56TekkubI'm fine with investing
02:16.02TekkubI have steady income from DEing
02:16.24Superfly1how much you earn a day?
02:16.29Superfly1avg day
02:16.36Tekkubfuck if I know
02:16.49TekkubI just buy out the AH once a day and crush it all
02:17.10TekkubI've paid for my main's epic flying, and I have 1.6k back
02:17.42Superfly1i used to that, but wasnt really sure i should invest more than 300g once
02:18.06TekkubI prolly average 300g spent pur scan
02:18.42Tekkubthink I make 100-200g profit on a batch
02:18.43Superfly1xmas/NYE was pretty poor, and noone bought any arcane dust from me, and a day after i've sold 120
02:18.57Tekkubyea dust's been a bitch to move since 2.3
02:19.05Tekkubbut essence goes instantly
02:19.10Tekkubit was the reverse before
02:19.35Superfly1what do you suggest buy items what i can de essence or dusts?
02:19.58Fisker-i use my arcane dust for large prismatic shards
02:20.03Fisker-= i win
02:20.11TekkubI rarely see weapons cheap enough to buy, prolly 95% of what I crush is armor
02:20.29Tekkubwait what fister?
02:20.55Fisker-i got tailoring
02:21.03Fisker-crafting arcanoweave bracers for shards
02:21.10Superfly1aye
02:21.14Tekkubhrm.......
02:21.22Tekkubtempting....
02:21.42Tekkub*grabs calculator
02:21.53Fisker-if i buy it all it's usually around 24g
02:22.02Fisker-but i supply with some arcane dust and netherweave cloth
02:22.25Tekkubwell I always price out the AH value...
02:22.42Tekkubif I can't buy it all on AH and turn a profit, it's better to just sell the raw on AH
02:22.54Fisker-yeah
02:23.00Fisker-but that's the point
02:23.10Fisker-arcane dust and netherweave is hard to sell imo
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02:23.31Fisker-ownt
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02:23.45Tekkub*grrr*
02:23.53Tekkubbut yea, I hate teaching basic econ to the children in my guild
02:23.54Fisker-anyways i was running around with like 10-15 stacks of arcane dust
02:24.00Chosiwhodrop > mendeleev
02:24.05Tekkub"oh but I farmed the mats I make more money that way"
02:24.13CIA-803kemayo * r57788 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Loop should start at 1.
02:24.24Chosihow come mendeleev lacks some info?
02:24.26Chosisucks.
02:24.47Fisker-well raw materials will usually cost you money to put up
02:24.59Fisker-so i prefer to get all my ah stuff in enchanting mats
02:25.01Fisker-free to put up
02:25.03Superfly1btw how you guys scan the ah? auctineer?
02:25.08TekkubAucAdv
02:25.11Fisker-same
02:25.18Superfly1maybe you know the answer
02:25.27Superfly1some ****hole put some shards on a very high price
02:25.30Superfly1avg is about 50g
02:25.40Superfly1and small glimm shard is about 50g
02:25.41Tekkubtweak your outlier filter
02:25.45Tekkubor just blist him
02:25.47Superfly1is theere a way to clean that?
02:25.51Tekkubclean, no
02:25.57Tekkubavoid in future, yes
02:26.13Fisker-how do you blacklist stuff?
02:26.23Superfly1ok, so just drop the database and tune my rules
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02:29.05tekcubfuck you comcast
02:29.13Fisker-agree
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02:29.30tekcubour neighborhood's spike is broken
02:29.40tekcubit gets cold out, cable drops a lot
02:29.57tekcubwe've been on the phone with em 4 times, two guys out (one today)
02:30.06tekcuband they finally said it was the whole area, not just us
02:30.19Fisker-:O
02:30.38Fisker-I had some lag issues for a while as well
02:30.50Fisker-And they were like "But it's because the server on the other side is slow"
02:31.01tekcubit hiccups just long enough that WoW DC's most times
02:31.05tekcuband IRC craps out
02:31.10Fisker-Look, i'm giving you a traceroute report that shows massive slowdowns within your network
02:31.15Fisker-"bla bla run this program"
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02:31.32Fisker-so after like the 5th time someone finally gets the issue escalated :P
02:31.35Fisker-and it's fixed some days after
02:32.00Fisker-The 2 first hops after my connection out was hanging at 200-300msec
02:32.07Fisker-if i pinged something i'd have a 15-20% packetloss
02:32.09tekcubheh
02:32.23tekcubyea it sucks when you can prove the tier 1 reps wrong
02:32.42tekcub"hi, I know shit about computers, I can actually run a traceroute..."
02:33.13Fisker-I want to switch to fiber
02:33.37tekcubI've never had issues with cable till this
02:33.50tekcubwell and a dying modem before, but that was a fast $40 fix
02:34.02Fisker-but the company responsible for that says they want atleast 30% of the households to sign a "notification of interest"
02:34.22Fisker-like that's going to happen ever :(
02:35.06tekcubWayOutWest?
02:35.11tekcubthey still exist even?
02:35.35Fisker-who? :P
02:35.40Fisker-I'm from denmark
02:35.47tekcuboh
02:35.55Fisker-the company responsible for the fiber cables are called Seas
02:35.59tekcubwas a fiber provider in CO, don't know if they're still around
02:36.15tekcubtheir first test neighorborhood was ~ a mile from me
02:36.38Pkekyo|Fisker-: I'd sign the notification of interest :p
02:36.39tekcubwired a whole subdivision for fiber-based TV/net/phone
02:36.41Fisker-of course the funny thing about the story is that seas (also responsible for the electricity) is starting to improve the powergrid nationwide
02:36.53Fisker-We're one of the first regions to recieve this overhaul
02:36.56tekcubwas like 5mbps/sec both ways
02:37.02Fisker-And while they're doing this overhaul they also dig down fibercable
02:37.22Fisker-But they won't use it until they have a pretty firm grasp of how many they can expect to use their service
02:37.55Fisker-so i could go just outside, make a hole in the concrete and look there's sum fiber
02:38.00Fisker-except it's not being used :(
02:39.06Pkekyo|FUCKSAKE! this bloody alliance rogue won't let me leave
02:39.06Pkekyo|keeps popping distract and sap on me! >.<
02:39.55Thelynatekcub - if I go to the git repo for TourGuide and get the latest version of the guide I'm modifying (1-12 Azuremyst) to diff it for submission, where do I find the rev. number (or whatever git uses) for you?
02:41.30Thelynais it the first 8 characters of the "tree/?h=dfb0fff..." part of the URL in the web interface to git?
02:41.48Pkekyo|4 spelldamage vs. 4 stam, 3spir and 7 int?
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02:53.18Pkekyo|is it possible to dismiss your water elemental?
02:55.51Ellipsisright click pet frame, click dismiss?
02:56.18Pkekyo|don't have a pet frame :/
02:57.15Pkekyo|actually, I don't have a single unitframe :p
02:57.44Pkekyo|well, that's not entirely true... I've got raid frames....but they're mostly decorative :p
02:58.09GnarfozI'd expect the corresponding function call to be protected by now
02:58.40Arrowmasterit used to be protected
02:58.58Arrowmasterand it caused a ton of menu taint and got unprotected
02:59.26silentiumwhat about "/script PetDismiss()"? wowwiki doesnt have much details about it
03:00.30Pkekyo|my bloody water elemental keep spulling aggro when I try to avoid mobs :p
03:00.36Pkekyo|thanks silentium, gonna try that one next time I pop it
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03:01.47Pkekyo|is there a limit to how many macros you can have?
03:05.00Gngsk36
03:05.15Gagorian"over 9000?"
03:06.14Gngskit's easy to get around though
03:07.32Pkekyo|how?
03:08.36Gngskmacro sequence
03:09.53CIA-803gagorian * r57789 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: -Corrected deDE translation for Soul Siphon
03:10.37Fisker-BEEP BEEP
03:10.41Fisker-I'M AN ALARM CLOCK
03:10.42Fisker-RAWR
03:11.30ThelynaTekkub - if I go to the git repo for TourGuide and get the latest version of the guide I'm modifying (1-12 Azuremyst) to diff it for submission, where do I find the rev. number (or whatever git uses) for you? is it the first 8 characters of the "tree/?h=dfb0fff..." part of the URL in the web interface to git?
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03:13.16Pkekyo|BEEP BEEP I'M A JEEP
03:13.23Pkekyo|~fail Fisker-
03:13.24purlFisker-: Fail.
03:14.28EstilI can't wait to get my druid to 70
03:15.54Pkekyo|why not?
03:16.00Estilas soon as I hit 70
03:16.04EstilI can enjoy easymode Arena
03:16.41Pkekyo|lols
03:16.45Thelynaerm .... druid isn't easymode in arena
03:16.46Gngskif only that were true
03:16.51Pkekyo|"easymode arena"
03:16.53Estilcorrection
03:16.55Estil2v2 arena
03:17.02Gngskdruid is only 1
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03:17.28Estildruid sucks in 5v5
03:17.31Estilbut I have priest for 5v5
03:17.35Estilso I will now have a druid for 2v2
03:17.46Gngskpriests are fine in 2s
03:18.01Gngskdon't see why you'd roll a druid just for one arena bracket
03:18.18Estilwell
03:18.23Estilmy 2v2 arena partner is a warrior
03:18.27Estiland warrior+priest don't work very well
03:18.29Estilin 2s
03:18.42GngskI guess
03:18.44dylanmMake _him_ roll a rogue :p
03:18.44Estilhe wants to hit 2000s so he can get s3 weapon and he knows we ain't hitting that in bg9
03:18.49Estilwith warr+priest
03:20.09Pkekyo|7int, 4stam, 3spir, 5spelldmg vs. 9spelldmg?
03:20.10Estilnah rogues are dime a dozen
03:20.21Estilformer
03:20.29Pkekyo|the intstamspirspelldmg?
03:20.40Estilyes
03:20.51Pkekyo|aighty, new shoulders for me then
03:21.04Pkekyo|finally a replacement for the ones I picked up in SM, 24 levels ago :p
03:22.02Estilouch
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03:22.43Pkekyo|ouch?
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03:27.03rubikdoes mail sent from one toon to another (same account) not get returned to sender if it's been opened but not picked up after 29 days?
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03:30.28Pkekyo|it should?
03:30.49ulicmine gets returned more then I'd like, always forgetting to log on my mules :)
03:32.18Pkekyo|~spammenot
03:32.39Pkekyo|anyone know who the flying fuck wrote SpamMeNot?
03:33.00Fisker-it's 30 days :P
03:33.59silentiumI've noticed that sometimes expired mail doesnt arrive back at the sender instantly, sometimes it took them up to 2 days (I think) to come back
03:34.35silentiumgave me quite a headache of "where the fuck has that item gone? I'm sure it was in that alt's mailbox"
03:35.59Pkekyo|that piece of shit addon SpamMeNot won't stop spamming me >.<
03:36.01Fisker-yeah silentium
03:36.24Fisker-there's apparently also some load issues with causes mail to be extra delayed
03:36.53ArrowmasterPkekyo|: solution, dont use that pos SpamMeNot
03:37.42bigzeroPkekyo|, don't use it?
03:37.42Arrowmastermoron who wrote it practically hooked every function ever hooked using acehook originally
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03:37.48Arrowmasterits trash
03:38.41Pkekyo|I don't use it...other people does, and THEIR SpamMeNot spams me!
03:38.51Arrowmasterwhat?
03:38.56Arrowmasterhow is that possible
03:39.25Pkekyo|no idea
03:39.53Pkekyo|for no reason, all of a suddon my GMs SpamMeNot starts spamming me about me having to be lvl 2 to contact him
03:40.18Pkekyo|- without me having whispered him
03:40.24Arrowmasterlol
03:40.33Pkekyo|not to mention the "message timed out" spam when I actually DO whisper him
03:40.39Pkekyo|it's ridiculous
03:40.42Arrowmastersilly question to ask but do you use DBM?
03:40.47Pkekyo|no
03:41.16Arrowmastercan you think of any other shitty addons that still use normal whispers for comms
03:41.36Pkekyo|not really
03:41.48CIA-803kemayo * r57790 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Nil check.
03:41.55Pkekyo|oh well, atleast it gives me the opportunity to rip my GM a new one every time it happens :p
03:42.32bigzerowhat does setglobal() do?
03:42.43Pkekyo|it sets global?
03:42.55Pkekyo|"Thank you, captain obvious!" :p
03:43.10bigzerowhat's the point of that? bypass local variables?
03:43.14Arrowmasterno
03:43.19Arrowmasterits pointless
03:43.21bigzerosetglobal("SMN_TEXT_SPAMMER_TITLE", L["Spammer:"])
03:43.27Arrowmasterauthor is a douch
03:43.33Arrowmasterthat cant code
03:43.53KemayoIf you wanted to set a variable variable.
03:44.08Kemayosetglobal("variable"..i, "foo")
03:44.35Arrowmaster_G["variable"..i] = "foo"
03:44.42Arrowmasterstill pointless
03:44.44KemayoWell, yeah.
03:45.02bigzerogetglobal("variable"..i) = "foo" is the same also, right?
03:45.11KemayoNope.
03:45.21bigzeroyeah, i see it
03:45.23bigzeronvm
03:45.35bigzerogetglobal actually get the value....doh
03:46.31Pkekyo|rofl, I
03:46.50Pkekyo|I've been in #wowhead for hours today, didn't even notice the difference between that and here :p
03:47.07GalkaAnyone have a recommendation for a decent, movable target castbar that might also have some options like scaling?  Id rather not use Quartz for only Quartz Target
03:47.10Superfly1:DD
03:48.28bigzerois there even a point to SpamMeNot anymore? I haven't had anyone spam in any channel but /say for months now
03:48.56Arrowmasterno theres not
03:49.17Arrowmasterunless you want to use an addon that hooks so many damn functions in the ugliest fucking ways possible
03:49.34Pkekyo|bigzero: I'm getting it in /s, /trade, /emote and mail still
03:49.41Pkekyo|but spammenot is fucking useless
03:49.57Pkekyo|SpamSentry on the other hand seems to work just as it should...prevents goldspam
03:50.23bigzeroPkekyo|, hat server?
03:50.26bigzerowhat*
03:50.42Pkekyo|Bloodfeather EU
03:52.10Pkekyo|they are most frequent in /emote though
03:52.21Pkekyo|and those doesn't get blocked by addons
03:54.23CIA-803swearl * r57791 10nQuestLog/ (locales/zhCN.lua modules/Tooltips/locales/zhCN.lua):
03:54.23CIA-8nQuestLog:
03:54.23CIA-8- Update locale zhCN
03:54.35Pkekyo|zhCN?
03:56.17StanzillaChina?
03:56.38Pkekyo|I got the chinese part, but zh?
03:57.05Thelynaprobably the language set they us
03:57.07Thelyna*use
03:57.24Stanzillait's simplified chinese
03:57.40Thelynalike the other locales are enGB, enUS, frFR, deDE etc - it's probably just a bit of redundancy
03:58.18Stanzillatraditional chinese is zhTW
03:59.22Pkekyo|thought zhTW was taiwanese or something >.<
03:59.34Stanzillasame lol, I just googled it :p
04:00.16Pkekyo|then wtf is the extension for taiwanese localization? :p
04:00.44Stanzillaurm
04:00.52StanzillaI think there is no taiwanese wow version
04:01.04Stanzillathey all have a variant of the chinese one
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04:01.18NightHawkTheSaneto be sure, those locales are not specific to wow :P
04:01.38Stanzillayeah and that
04:01.39Stanzilla:(
04:02.00NightHawkTheSanethe better question is IS there a specific taiwanese locale
04:02.50Pkekyo|I think any 'better question' should include 'what the flying fuck' tbh...
04:03.08NightHawkTheSaneand the multiple parts of those locales are, i believe, for clarity. for example, enUS vs enGB
04:03.24NightHawkTheSanePkekyo|: no, not every question needs profanity
04:03.47Pkekyo|NightHawkTheSane: I beg to differ
04:03.52NightHawkTheSaneyou'd be wrong
04:04.00Pkekyo|no u
04:04.26NightHawkTheSaneyes, that's an excellent retort. go sniff glue.
04:04.35Stanzillathere is no taiwanese language
04:04.40Stanzillathey speak chinese
04:05.03Pkekyo|I never sniffed glue, and never will
04:05.19NightHawkTheSaneStanzilla: yeah, i thought as much, but language and locale are not a one-to-one relationship
04:05.29Pkekyo|if the chinese speak chinese, and the taiwanese speak chinese....who speak mandarin?
04:06.01Stanzillayeah but there are only 2 locals for the whole chinese speaking people
04:06.08NightHawkTheSanemandarin IS chinese
04:06.09Stanzillaone is zhCN and the other zhTW
04:06.18Pkekyo|indeed, NightHawkTheSane.... in norway we speak Norwegian, but we've got both noNN and noBM
04:06.49Pkekyo|and noNN sucks frozen donkeyballs, I might add
04:07.13Stanzillain austria and switzerland they speak german with heavy dialects but there is no locale for both countries
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04:08.03Pkekyo|wtf, server restart today?
04:08.23Stanzillait's wednesday
04:08.31tjsanyone know of a tanking addon that tracks threat across multiple targets and would let you select a target based on threat or something
04:08.32NightHawkTheSanegoddammit, i just sent primal life's to one of my alts, i think, but i dont know hwo
04:08.35Pkekyo|Stanzilla: dialects doesn't count...if you were to localize every bloody dialect there was, you'd be translating until armageddon arrived
04:08.36Stanzillawe-bork-your-servers-day in europe
04:08.57tjskinda like healbot but tankbot, where you see all agro targets or something, coloured based on threat
04:08.58Pkekyo|it's wednesday allread?
04:09.00StanzillaPkekyo|: yes but I think that "taiwanese" if it exists is just a dialect
04:09.40Pkekyo|fucksake...don't know what day it is...haven't seen daylight for a week
04:09.50Stanzilladay..what?
04:10.26NightHawkTheSanetjs: Aloft, I believe, can add a threat bar to a mob's nameplate
04:10.36ulicI think if blizzard goes to the trouble to translate a game for a dialect/language then addons can (if they want) too, other then that, they just have to deal since the rest of the game isn't in their language.
04:10.42Pkekyo|Stanzilla: what day today is...until you told me, that is
04:10.45tjsNightHawkTheSane: ooh that would be ideal
04:10.54tjscheers
04:10.57KivinSanFiltering incoming whispers, says, and emotes based on sender's character level: This would be completely dependent on the bottleneck of /who cooldown, right?
04:11.05Pkekyo|daylight ~ light of day...whatev
04:11.30NightHawkTheSaneKivinSan: barring caching of data, probably
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04:11.55KivinSanhum...
04:12.29KivinSanMaybe I'll try it anyway and see if it's completely worthless in real time
04:14.02tjsAloft uses threat 1.0 and so does Omen, would that mean they share threat table info or would I be doubling up on that data?
04:14.21KivinSanThreat only gets loaded into memory once
04:14.25NightHawkTheSane^^
04:14.28tjsneato
04:14.36KivinSanLikewise to all libraries
04:14.39NightHawkTheSanelike any library, it only exist sin memory once, so any mods that use it are accessing the exact same data
04:14.47NightHawkTheSanes/t sin/ts in/
04:15.21tjsit would be awesome to see reverse dependancies for libs on the website
04:15.33tjscould see what else uses a given lib
04:15.35tjsetc
04:15.53Orionshocki think ace2 has that ability
04:16.07KivinSanIf you mean, a list of addons require said library, that list could get *Quite* long
04:16.18tjsah true
04:16.28KivinSanSomething like the core ace libraries...
04:16.42tjsjust wanted to see what else used threat
04:16.54KivinSanthat i know of, PitBull does as well
04:16.57NightHawkTheSaneto be honest, threat's probably the only useful reason for doing that
04:17.53Orionshockwith the lib stub method it's rather easy iirc
04:20.01GngskSo, jewelcrafter only gems. Do you have to be a JC to socket them into gear?
04:20.16ScoTTienope
04:20.27ScoTTieoh, sorry yes :P
04:20.43Gngskoh, so you can't like level JC up just to make a bunch of them and bank 'em for later
04:20.49ulicno I wouldn't think, they are just BoP, so you could drop the prof and socket later I'd imagine.
04:20.58Gngskthat's what I'm wondering
04:21.08GngskI'd love to make a bunch and bank 'em, drop JC for enchanting or something
04:21.17Orionshocktotal hax
04:21.24ulicthey don't have any requirements like Master Swordsmith
04:21.44GngskI'd like to get some sorta confirmation, but I'm hesitant to post on forums
04:22.06ulicjust put on your flame retardent clothes first.
04:22.42GngskI'd be more worried about getting it nerfed
04:22.42Pkekyo|how long does a server restart take?
04:22.43Fisker-jewelcrafter gems can only be equipped in items the jewelcrafter has
04:22.47Fisker-and boe items will become soulbound
04:22.57Gngskright, but I'm saying
04:23.10GngskI make a bunch of them for myself, drop JC to put in my gear later on
04:23.26tjszomg you know you play tomuch wow when you try to /camp in irc..
04:23.28Gngskbasically what I'm getting at is, do you have to have 375 jc to socket them
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04:24.06Fisker-i doubt it
04:24.51Fisker-but the aspect of leveling a profession just to make those seems kind of silly
04:25.03Gngskthey're the best gems in the game
04:25.18Fisker-yeah
04:25.30Fisker-you can only use one of them though
04:25.36GngskI guess it's the same idea as leveling enchanting just to enchant your rings then dropping it
04:25.38Fisker-at a time of course
04:25.42Fisker-yeah
04:25.43Gngskyeah
04:26.06GngskI'm contemplating doing one or the other
04:26.06Pkekyo|approx how long would a rolling server restart take?
04:26.13GngskI've been mining/skinning for forever and I've made a ton of gold
04:26.14Fisker-a couple of minutes
04:26.19NightHawkTheSaneideally, no more than 15m
04:26.22Gngsktime to blow a lot of it leveling a profession worth having
04:27.18bigzeroor....you could pick up both and keep them
04:27.32Fisker-i require sleep
04:27.39Fisker-but i can't get :(
04:27.46NightHawkTheSaneGngsk: what class?
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04:32.47Pkekyo|oh gee, thanks blizz... was in a heavily mob-populated area when the server was rebooted....instagibbed when I came online
04:32.57Pkekyo|bastards
04:33.16NightHawkTheSanethey totally did that specifically to screw with you too
04:34.26Pkekyo|yeah
04:34.27Pkekyo|I know
04:34.36bigzerowould GetItemInfo() return "Weapon" for item type for other locales? anyone know?
04:34.43Pkekyo|bloody arsehats
04:36.12Pkekyo|why can't I put a macro on the pet bar? :<
04:36.35Arrowmasterbigzero: i think the GetItemInfo() returns are localized
04:36.37Nargiddleybigzero, those returns are localized. it would be different for other locales
04:36.46bigzero:-(
04:39.26bigzerohmm...how then my mod would not work for other locales the way it is written....and people have submitted translations, but never mentioned anything about it not working for them. odd
04:40.39Pkekyo|L M F A O
04:40.55Pkekyo|server restart killed my autobar....it won't collapse it's extensions :p
04:41.10bigzeroNargiddley, do you know this for sure, or are you just speculating...
04:41.28NargiddleyI use them in baggins for filtering
04:41.32Pkekyo|it's covering half my screen now
04:41.56Nargiddleythe functions that get the ah categories match the returns
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04:42.57bigzeroNargiddley, thanks, that should help quite a bit
04:44.57CIA-8tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rcaf940008e 10./Mapping.lua: Might fix Carto waypoints not going away on objective completion, might just fuck up Carto support completely... not that I care either way :P
04:45.21bigzerohmmm...I wonder if I could just use ENCHSLOT_WEAPON... the comment in blizzard code says that it's just for enchanting filtering, but perhaps...
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04:49.32bigzerowhat about GetInventorySlotInfo("slotName"). that takes slot name as an argument. I wouldn't need to localize that one, would i?
04:50.39dylanmDon't believe so.
04:51.31NightHawkTheSanehuh
04:51.32NightHawkTheSaneinteresting
04:51.48NightHawkTheSaneme having nature's guidance is the only thing that scrub flags
04:52.09NightHawkTheSanenot that i have elemental focus, or don't have any threat reduction
04:53.07bigzeroscrub needs adjusting imo
04:54.13NightHawkTheSaneeh, i imagine its still a work in progress
04:54.51Pkekyo|~scrub
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04:56.33Pkekyo|yay, I has 0 armor
04:56.46bigzero~seen slake
04:56.49purlslake <n=lethargi@216.254.115.46> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 725d 5h 49m 20s ago, saying: 'apt does download the deps'.
04:56.58NightHawkTheSaneprobably not the same slake
04:57.02bigzeroyeah, lol
04:57.16Pkekyo|what's scrub?
04:57.38bigzero~seen slake333
04:57.39purli haven't seen 'slake333', bigzero
04:58.33bigzeroPkekyo|, looks at people's specs and tells you if they're specced properly for raiding
04:58.43bigzerowell, tries to anyway
04:59.16NightHawkTheSaneyeah
04:59.31NightHawkTheSaneultimately it's just a set of rules that flags particular talents, or combinations of talents
04:59.51silentiumscrub is funny, it complains about 0/49/12 prot paladins having "partial retribution spec" and flags them red
04:59.54bigzerohmm, slake didn't even leave an email :-(
05:00.05NightHawkTheSanesilentium: yeah, like i said, work in progress i'm sure ;)
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05:01.15bigzero~seen Lain
05:01.17purllain <i=Saberjin@gateway/tor/x-7a70ea95594f79b4> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 110d 13h 6m 12s ago, saying: 'Do you mean you posted a link to a rickroll and they all fell for it?'.
05:01.26bigzeronope
05:02.00silentiumNightHawkTheSane: sure it is :) I was just surprised and amused when I tried it yesterday out of curiosity
05:02.23NightHawkTheSaneyeah :)
05:02.43silentiumI wonder how many protadins already got a whisper from their raid leaders because of it :D
05:03.11silentium"man, you're supposed to tank, stop speccing dps!"
05:05.17silentiumanyway, 6 am is late enough to go to bed, cya around
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05:07.28Pkekyo|g'nite silentium
05:07.40Pkekyo|zomg...found someone that's in the same timezone as me on irc...it's a miracle!
05:08.18Herioyou guys should make out
05:08.22Stan_it's 6:07am to be exact :p
05:09.01Heriowhat was the protadin talent you guys were talking about?
05:09.33dylanmUh I think just that they have points in ret at all, no? Which is standard.
05:10.12Heriohaha
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05:10.24Heriomy pally is 0/46/15
05:10.58Heriothinking 0/43/18 or something similar soon, though
05:10.58tjsanyone here familiar with decursive? I'm interested in borrowing MUFs for an addon idea I'd like to play with, is there a MUF lib?
05:11.36dylanmI wouldn't just dive into MUFs right away.
05:11.49tjslol
05:12.01dylanmHad to. Apologies.
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05:12.12dylanmWhat does that stand for, praytell?
05:12.13Pkekyo|DINGALINGDINGDINGDINGDOOOOOOONG :D
05:12.20Heriomicro unitframe?
05:12.21tjsmini unit frame
05:12.27Heriomini...? yeah
05:12.54Herio<insert word that means small and starts with m here> unit frame
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05:13.47XuerianWell, see, I thought it had something to do with something small and inserting some into it...
05:13.53XuerianThe unit frame thing sortof changes it a bit
05:13.55Xuerian=\
05:14.08tjsso I'm a programmer, but have never written an addon before, could I run my idea past you guys and get any advice that springs to mind?
05:14.20dylanmGo for it.
05:14.20Xuerian~asktoask
05:14.21purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
05:14.34tjspurl: I asked for that ;)
05:14.35purlYou asked for that ;)?
05:14.40tjslol
05:15.15Xuerian~comfort tjs
05:15.15purlThere, there, tjs.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
05:15.23XuerianShi loves you anyway.
05:15.58tjsso I'm a bear tank, I have trouble with stuff like H-SH when I pull 5+ mobs, have to pick up threat on all of them in a couple of seconds without breaking CC from slow arse mages who sheep on my doorstep
05:16.12tjsetc
05:16.16XuerianFire your mage :D
05:16.47Heriowhat is your proposed solution?
05:16.56tjsso my idea is little boxes, like the decursive MUFs, that use threat 1.0 lib. they represent the engaged mobs, and the colour represents your % threat
05:17.26Heriothere's no "engaged mob" unit
05:17.36tjsred is bad, green is good, transparent is out of range, flashing is attacking someone else, symbols for CC etc
05:17.44Herioyou've got targets and focuses, that's it in terms of units
05:17.50tjshrm :/
05:17.57tjsthreat lib has a method..
05:17.57Herioi mean enemies
05:17.58tjssec
05:18.01dylanmI'd wait until 2.4 to even think about something like this :p
05:18.11Heriowhat are they changing in 2.4?
05:18.16Stan_combat log
05:18.16dylanmAlthough
05:18.17Heriolink me up, scotty!
05:18.19tjsEncounterMobs()
05:18.27dylanmWell, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference.
05:18.35tjsReturns the number of mobs in the current encounter as specified by the NPC core. Not generally needed by GUIs; may be needed by Class core
05:19.04dylanmThreat-1.0 attempts to identify different mobs.
05:19.04Herioyou could display the data, but you cannot make a proper unitframe out of it
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05:19.14tjsah :/
05:19.14Herioyou could however attach it to the name plate, perhaps?
05:19.19dylanmRight. I mean you couldn't target them upon a click.
05:19.25dylanmNot even in 2.4.
05:19.30tjsthat sucks
05:19.39HerioNAME PLATE ZOMGARSH
05:19.43dylanmNameplates have the range issue :p
05:19.49Herionot if you're a bear
05:20.08tjswhat do bears have to do with nameplate range?
05:20.09Herioyou're not going to worry about multimob agro when you're out of nameplate range of the mob
05:20.22tjstrue
05:20.28Xueriantjs: You could modify the nameplate in some superficial way, or show alerts with names, or list the mobs you don't have aggro on... but no unit frames
05:20.33Gnarfozduplicate names mess up the entire concept, anyway, unless we get unique IDs
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05:20.50XuerianGnarfoz: Coming, sortof, in 2.4
05:21.07dylanm_I guess I don't really know how good Threat is at separating mobs. We don't use a threatmeter.
05:21.10Gnarfozmaybe-ish, etc. pending full change log
05:21.20tjsXuerian: I cant iterate mobs in the area and match names or some such to get unit frames?
05:21.24Xueriandylanm: It's no better than how different the names are
05:21.29Gnarfozdylanm_: easy: if it has the same name, it can't
05:21.55Herioin order to have a proper (secure) unit frame, you need an associated unit
05:22.00Herioyou can't just make those up
05:22.06tjsXuerian: I saw a hunter-bot farming badlands once and it was able to target mobs somehow
05:22.12Xueriantjs: Secure unit frames and units themselves limit this. You can't modify unitframes in combat in any way other than superficially, and you can't (correct me if I'm wrong) have a unitframe for any non-unit (eg, target, mouseover, party1target, playertarget, or *focus*)
05:22.21Heriotjs: it was bot
05:22.23Xueriantjs: Bots are hacks, they don't have to obey secure frame rules
05:22.28tjsah
05:22.38Xuerianscript bots were fixed ehhhh around 1.2
05:22.45dylanm_You're just spoofing keypresses. That's a whole other ballgame.
05:22.57Xueriandylanm_: Far from it
05:23.14tjsso my whole mod idea is shot down in flames ;)
05:23.16Gnarfozdirect memory access etc, no need to spoof anything
05:23.21dylanm_Ah.
05:23.30tjsah well, better now than when its half written
05:23.32dylanm_I don't fiddle with such things.
05:23.35Xueriantjs: no, but you can't *interact* directly with any of your indicators
05:23.50dylanm_But having indicators is fun. Everyone agrees that bars = love.
05:23.52XuerianIt's like the old PerfectTargets mod
05:23.57XuerianIt still works...
05:24.02XuerianYou just can't target with it
05:25.17XuerianModifying nameplates as to color them specially if you don't have aggro, or something like that, would be your best bet. Even then, it would be limited to similarly named mobs until 2.4 at least
05:25.21dylanm_Good to know that Threat only goes as far as names. I know there are other things you could try and sync on but that would be a crap-ton of work.
05:25.32Pkekyo|is it possible to quest your way to Timbermaw neutral?
05:25.53Stan_no
05:25.54XuerianPkekyo|: Unfriendly through the basic felwood quests, but not neutral through just them
05:26.03dylanm_Gonna be interesting when the ids come.
05:26.09Stan_unfriendly is enough
05:26.13Stan_they wont attack you
05:26.24Pkekyo|yeah, but I wanna hand in those bloody ritual totem quests
05:26.28Pkekyo|gotta be neutral to do that
05:26.32dylanm_You want a LOT of things.
05:26.37Stan_lol Pkekyo|
05:26.46Stan_i STILL have them
05:26.47XuerianSince blizz is introducing a built-in threat meter, it's guaranteed we'll be able to reliably track threat for all engaged targets separately
05:26.50tjsis it possible to detatch nameplates from above peoples heads and put them in a nice list ?
05:26.51Stan_and never started the quests
05:26.58Pkekyo|2140/3000 unfriendly
05:27.02Xueriantjs: Sure. You can't interact with them then.
05:27.06Pkekyo|so I need 860 rep from quests
05:27.06XuerianSecure frames.
05:27.09bigzeroXinhuan, Blizzard threat meter?
05:27.09tjsargh
05:27.10Stan_Xuerian: there won't be a threat meter...
05:27.17AntiarcIn WotLK there will
05:27.23Stan_o rly?
05:27.24dylanm_Uh I thought it was more of a "you have aggro kinda" thing.
05:27.24kenlyricXuerian: you have what I would optimistically call a "hopeful" expectation of blizzard' abilities...
05:27.27Xuerianyes rly.
05:27.33Stan_link?
05:27.40Xuerianmeh sec
05:27.44bigzerowanna see wanna see
05:27.49kenlyricwelcome to blizzcon?
05:27.53kenlyricjesus
05:27.53XuerianPATIENCE YOUNG FUZZMUFFINS
05:28.11Pkekyo|water elementals as a frostmage is a fucking pain :<
05:28.15Xuerianhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111543053&sid=1
05:28.19Xuerianread and be enlightened
05:28.25bigzerowhat?? Pkekyo|...quit mage now
05:28.38Pkekyo|bigzero: whyes?
05:28.53Xueriankenlyric: Like hell I'm going to rely on their built-in solution. However, what they have to do to implement something in the default ui does give me hope
05:29.14Xuerianbtw: 1.5.2Q
05:29.20Xuerianctrl-f that
05:29.27dylanm_Holy damn that's a good thread.
05:29.42dylanm_Curse you EU forums
05:29.55tjsI like how blizz cant come up with orig UI ideas, they just cherry pick the most popular addons and rewrite them.. poorly
05:29.59bigzeroPkekyo|, water ele is awesome
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05:30.25dylanm_I don't know. A lot of the recent ui changes have been just great.
05:30.39Pkekyo|bigzero: I meant fighting water elementals as a frostmage >.<
05:30.52bigzerooh, lol
05:30.54Xueriantjs: Why do you care? It helps the retards who refuse to use addons be a useful part of groups, and *you* can still use the real addons.
05:30.57dylanm_Some of them were lifted from the community, surely.
05:30.58bigzerowell, then keep going
05:31.20tjsXuerian: good point
05:31.47bigzerois it just me of Blizzard's in-game chat kinda failed?
05:31.54bigzerovoice chat*
05:31.59Xuerianbigzero: Not really
05:32.04dylanm_Hell if I've even used that outside of testing.
05:32.05kenlyricthey don't necessarily rewrite them poorly, they just write them limited.
05:32.24kenlyricand for the vast majority of folks they're "good enough"
05:32.35Xueriankenlyric has a point, it's not always poorly (Though we have fun coding examples in the default ui...), but simple and useful, not fully featured
05:32.41dylanm_I like the new tracking menu just fine.
05:32.47kenlyrickrusty brand motto: It's not just good. it's good enough.
05:32.49tjsits really quiet, noone uses it, vent still wins imo, and 9 out of 10 'girls' claim their mic is busted anyway oO
05:32.57Shirik|zZzrofl
05:32.58XuerianThe new tracking menu, combined with a mod such as EBB, is just brilliant, for example.
05:33.08bigzerotjs, lol
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05:33.10Mudkipztjs o rly
05:33.22XuerianMost of the girls I know just skip the broken part and say, loosely translated, fuck you nerds
05:33.23dylanm_Believe me, if you gave the average default-ui user one of your common waterfall configs they would lose it.
05:33.37tjsgirls was in quotes
05:33.37ShirikI haven't even activated Blizzard's chat
05:33.38Xueriandylanm: And that's better than the old (and current) waterfall menus
05:33.47ShirikI don't want to hear all the little kiddies
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05:33.54Xueriantjs: Bahahahaha good point
05:33.57kenlyricand the threat/mob id stuff has additional benefits, so even if their threat meter sucks, the data the provide will be useful.
05:34.02XuerianShirik: I find that's the group that uses it most, the "Halo" group
05:34.10Xueriankenlyric: That was my point earlier :)
05:34.19Mudkipzhas anyone edited a prs file before?
05:34.21dylanm_Xuerian: I'm saying that there's a reason that their additions are viewed by people in here as limited.
05:34.33kenlyricXuerian: provided, of course, they know what data they're providing.
05:34.35Xueriandylanm_: Agreed
05:34.42Pkekyo|so basicly, I've got to grind 860 Timbermaw by killing 86 of those deadwood fuckers?
05:34.43kenlyricthey might not know how threat works.
05:34.50Pkekyo|gah, I hate mindless grinding :<
05:34.51Xueriankenlyric: =O
05:34.55Xueriankenlyric: lolz.
05:35.00XuerianPkekyo|: Quit wow.
05:35.05kenlyricwhy
05:35.07kenlyricthe
05:35.08kenlyricabsolute
05:35.10kenlyricfuck
05:35.13Xuerian0_o
05:35.16kenlyricare you grinding fucking fubolgs?
05:35.17dylanm_Xuerian: And that it's intentional. Perhaps no one was contesting that but hell... I'm just _talking_ :p
05:35.39kenlyricfubolgs?
05:35.43Xueriandylanm_: I can't argue that, I tend to be the volatile soapbox person when everyone agrees too :p
05:35.45kenlyricthat needs to be a mod name
05:36.01Xueriankenlyric: How the hell did you type that 0_o
05:36.11kenlyricforgot the r?
05:36.19Xuerianfu[r]b[lo]gs
05:36.26Pkekyo|Xuerian: nah...the quests give the illusion that the grind is to some extent intelligent
05:36.33Shirik[r] ?
05:36.40kenlyricfurbolg. I forgot the r
05:36.44kenlyricit's not rocket surgery.
05:36.44ShirikMost worthless regex ever :P
05:36.47XuerianThe r was missing in and the ol reversed
05:36.50Xueriannot regex =O
05:36.55Shirikoh
05:36.58Xuerianas in writing
05:37.06Xuerian"intended meaning"
05:37.08Xuerianer.
05:37.09Xuerianwhatever.
05:37.10kenlyricI wrote fubolg. the ol isn't reversed.
05:37.17kenlyricit's not a furblog
05:37.28Xuerianzomg, they're actually furbolgs?
05:37.30bigzerohttp://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1730wow?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=bundlestab
05:37.33kenlyricyes?
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05:37.49dylanm_kenlyric: I think I'll steal "rocket surgery" as a phrase.
05:37.53ShirikXuerian: Furbolg
05:37.54kenlyricum...
05:37.57kenlyricI didn't make it up.
05:38.02XuerianShirik: SHHH STILL CHECKING
05:38.04dylanm_Doesn't matter.
05:38.17Shirik~dict furbolg
05:38.21Shirikboo
05:38.21Shirikfail
05:38.24Pkekyo|kenlyricare you grinding fucking fubolgs? <---- trying to get to neutral so I can hand in the bloody ritual totems
05:38.36kenlyricjust throw them away?
05:38.47Xuerianbigzero: Ripoff.
05:38.49kenlyricunless there's some recipe you want.
05:38.56dylanm_People steal stereos from people who did not invent stereos like all the time and the government is cool with it.
05:38.56Pkekyo|done that too many times allready, wanna try the bloody quests for once :p
05:38.57kenlyricor you're one of those weirdos.
05:39.05kenlyricexalted w/ all
05:39.08Xuerian[censored]
05:39.20XuerianSince when was furblog changed to furbolg >.>
05:39.33Xuerian~denial
05:39.34purlDenial is not a river in Egypt.
05:39.35bigzeroi think it was always furbolg
05:39.45Pkekyo|nah, not exalted
05:39.59Pkekyo|though the enchanting formulas are tempting
05:40.22bigzeroonly need revered..or was it honored?
05:40.25kenlyricI got my first priest to revered when they broke group rep for one patch.
05:40.44kenlyricso you could get rep in a 40 man raid from pretty much anywhere in felwood.
05:40.44bigzerobut they are useless now except for twinks
05:40.50kenlyricafk in the lake for 3000 rep
05:41.09kenlyricmy last two toons just went to unfriendly.
05:41.26Pkekyo|bigzero: revered to get both of them
05:42.43bigzeroyeah, I'm one of those exaulted w/ all people btw...had to get my hands on the Defender of the Timbermaw
05:42.50Pkekyo|how much do you think you could sell your account for, if you had 10 chars of different classes on all enEU servers? O.o
05:43.08Pkekyo|the trinket is tempting, but I can't be arsed :p
05:43.16Gnarfozerr
05:43.21bigzero10 chars on all servers?
05:43.38Gnarfozfor someone who is all about 'exalted w/ all' how can you misspell exalted
05:43.40Gnarfoz>_>
05:44.00bigzero'cause I'm not quite there yet :-P
05:44.51Pkekyo|bigzero: yeah, 10 chars on all servers :p
05:45.05Gnarfozthat's like... a total of 10 chars?
05:45.08bigzerowhat does that mean?
05:45.21bigzerowhy "on all servers" then?
05:45.34Gnarfozif you're trying to say '10 chars on each EU server'
05:45.39Pkekyo|yeah
05:45.46Gnarfozthen you have been fooled, because the maximum is 50 chars per account, IIRC
05:45.55Pkekyo|doh
05:45.56Pkekyo|shame
05:45.58bigzerolol
05:46.29bigzeroand even if there was no limit, then that's a ton of characters
05:46.36Pkekyo|I have great economical ambitions, ok? stop laughing at me! :p
05:47.09bigzerothough you didn't specify their lvl, so I'd say possible
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05:49.42bigzeroanyone know if ItemEquipLoc returned by GetItemInfo is different for other locales?
05:50.19bigzeroINVTYPE_2HWEAPON, etc.
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05:51.54Arrowmasterthose are not localized afaik
05:52.59Pkekyo|bigzero: that'd be lvl 70s
05:54.18bigzeroArrowmaster, yeah, seems like those are actually global variable names, which in turn evaluate to localized strings
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06:07.36Arrowmasteryeah they are
06:07.47Arrowmasterused to be not all were global variables though
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06:18.57Pkekyo|is there an addon that autoequips riding crop/carrot on a stick and whatever when you mount up?
06:19.16CodayusYes.
06:19.25CodayusMountMe
06:19.36KivinSanOutfitter does; Probably the other duplicate addons as well
06:22.37Pkekyo|getting sick of riding around in my dps gear and fighting in my riding gear :p
06:24.31KivinSanJust keep in mind that changing trinkets causes cooldown
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06:24.54KivinSanAnd doesn't work if you're in combat, iirc
06:25.01CodayusYes.
06:28.19Pkekyo|I only wear passive trinkets anyways :)
06:28.29bigzerocloset gnome does it oo
06:28.31bigzerotoo*
06:28.46ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
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06:31.56Pkekyo|fucksake, the closet gnome descriptions are too bloody cryptic
06:31.59Pkekyo|g'mornin Zhinjio
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06:33.30Pkekyo|g'mornin newguy
06:34.52MrCrispyturned on to wowhead the by a guildie
06:35.30MrCrispytired sorry
06:38.25Pkekyo|huh?
06:38.46Pkekyo|you're not making any sense
06:39.09KivinSano.o
06:39.41Pkekyo|- look who's talking :p
06:40.11MrCrispyim tired is why im not makin any sense is what i meant
06:42.21Pkekyo|same goes for me lol
06:45.48Pkekyo|can you do /who queries for subzones, or only zones?
06:46.26Heriozones
06:46.37Megalonadd z="zonename" to the query
06:46.47Megalonor was it z-"..." ?
06:46.52Herioi think you can obtain subzone info if you have a unit
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06:47.05Heriopretty sure it was z-"name"
06:47.38Herioi guess it depends on your definition of "subzone" =P
06:49.35Pkekyo|Herio: zone = Blade's Edge Mountains.... Subzone = Ogri'la
06:51.04bigzerocan I change my locale for AceLocale?
06:51.28KivinSanIt chooses the locale based on GetLocale()
06:52.25bigzeroanyone with a chinese version of WoW? zhCN or chTW?
06:52.40bigzerozhTW*
06:53.48KivinSanI don't know much about hooks, but it seems to me you might be able to hook GetLocale and return a spoofed value... though I have no idea what the implications of that would be
06:54.17KivinSanI"m pretty sure the US/EU clients aren't equipped to handle asian characters
06:54.35bigzeroi might have to find out
06:55.13KivinSanIf I type Japanese into WoW, it starts doing some really weird shit
06:56.13hasteKivinSan: they are
06:56.36hasteKivinSan: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_121407_140234.png
06:57.13KivinSanCare to explain why mine wont accept japanese input?
06:57.31Pkekyo|did blizz do a russian localization yet?
06:57.33hasteapplocale maybe? I run WoW under Linux also tho' :p
06:57.42KivinSanMy edit boxes lock up if i try typing anything with IME active
06:57.56OrionshockIME?
06:58.17hasteinput method editor
06:58.37KivinSanThe software used for typing foreign characters on a standard keyboard
06:58.37Pkekyo|err?
06:59.39Pkekyo|oh
07:00.16Pkekyo|you sure it isn't conflicting with the IME software, and not the japanese characters themselves?
07:00.32KivinSanThe only difference between an asian keyboard an an american one is usually about 4 keys.  IME is what transliterates what you type in real-time
07:00.45KivinSan*shrug* japanese works perfectly fine in everything else
07:00.45hastethe IME is also the same
07:00.52KivinSan‚±‚ñ‚É‚¿‚Í`
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07:01.02hasteshift_jis as utf-8 == bad idea
07:01.40KivinSanI'm led to believe this chat is utf8 and if IME is giving me valid text here, it should work in wow
07:02.50Pkekyo|I'm just getting alot of huge squares :<
07:03.02KivinSanbecause you don't have the stuff installed
07:03.07KivinSanfonts and stuff
07:03.46hasteKivinSan: http://beverpung.net/images/2008-01-02-080304_338x94_scrot.png
07:03.57KivinSanyep
07:05.19Orionshockcan you lvl weapon skill off immune mobs?
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07:05.27Orionshocki guess you can
07:06.03KivinSanhttp://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2595/jpircyr0.jpg <- works fine over here
07:06.36CIA-803helium * r57792 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
07:06.37CIA-8Babble-2.2:
07:06.37CIA-8- Gas, Tradeskill: updated zhTW localization
07:06.58hasteI'm going to blame your setup :p
07:06.59Pkekyo|Orionshock: what mobs are you talking about?
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07:07.08hasteyou are the only one I'm seeing mojibake from at least
07:07.54KivinSanmojibake?
07:08.18hastegarbage
07:08.39KivinSanof course you're going to see garbage characters if you don't have east asian support installed
07:09.10hasteI do have that, how the hell would I be able to type in WoW if not?
07:09.25KivinSanYou can type Japanese in WoW?
07:09.33hasteyes
07:09.59OrionshockPkekyo|: well there are the ones by the portal in badlands
07:10.59KivinSanOut of curiosty, care to type something in IRC in Japanese and i'll see if i get, uhh, mojibake...
07:11.41OrionshockPkekyo|:  then there are the ones that are fully immune and don't attack you in SMV
07:11.59Orionshockgot 13 points in 6
07:12.02Orionshock6 mins
07:12.06Pkekyo|the ones in badlands are used to train weapon skill by 90% of the warrior community
07:12.12Pkekyo|wear int gear :p
07:12.59hasteKivinSan: ãŠã¯ã‚ˆã†
07:13.01Orionshockim a druid
07:13.28KivinSan‚¨‚͂悤‚²‚´‚¢‚Ü‚·AƒnƒXƒe‚³‚ñBBB
07:13.37KivinSanD: wonder why i can see yours, but you can't see mine
07:14.29bigzeroI can see haste's too...you're is a bunch of giberish
07:14.44bigzeroyour's*....wth...i need sleep
07:14.46KivinSanvery bizarre
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07:14.57Pkekyo|Orionshock: wtf do you want with weapon skill as a druid?
07:15.37bigzeromeleeing is ftw while healing
07:16.30Orionshock`was told a long time ago it helped, even if it dosn't - im bored
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07:19.27Pkekyo|that's sad, Orionshock...go farm gold
07:19.35Orionshockblah
07:22.22OrionshockPkekyo|: you know i've never seen anything that says that wep skill has no impact in form, excpt from ppl saying so
07:24.36Pkekyo|do you use your weapon in form?
07:25.03Pkekyo|weapon skill only increases your chance to hit with [specified weapon].... you don't physically use your weapon in forms
07:27.05bigzeroI think it says so on wowwiki too...not that it's a very reliable source, but still
07:27.59Pkekyo|it's not "increases your chance to hit when [specified weapon] is equipped", it's "increases your chance to hit with [specified weapon]"....
07:29.52CIA-803bigzero * r57793 10GlowFoSho/ (8 files):
07:29.52CIA-8GlowFoSho:
07:29.52CIA-8- Everything should be localizeable now
07:29.52CIA-8- Added enchant-over-chat functionality (still somewhat primitive, hope to improve)
07:31.03bigzerolf someone in china to test GlowFoSho...50g
07:32.19Pkekyo|anyone living in china could get 50g faster than that'd take anyways :p
07:33.01Orionshockmeh Pkekyo| ... i'm lvling it anyway
07:33.21Orionshock@ 332 now
07:33.28Pkekyo|rofl
07:33.29Pkekyo|gl hf
07:33.47Orionshockbeen going for about 30mins, started at 309
07:34.26Orionshock3.0+ weapon speed
07:35.15bigzeromight want to get a faster weapon
07:35.25Orionshock... don't have one on hand :D
07:36.04Orionshockbtw bigzero i know your pain with trying to get testers... i'v got a beta mod that i can't find anyone to test out :(
07:36.59Pkekyo|lmao Orionshock, masochist!
07:38.03KillmoreOrionshock: what do you want me to test ?
07:38.17bigzeroOrionshock, I figured I'll release it and then let people complain
07:38.36Orionshockhttp://shock-wow.googlecode.com/files/GuildCraft.zip
07:38.56KillmoreOrionshock: omg keylogger!
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07:38.59Orionshockit's a synch addon so you'll need some guildies to do it too
07:39.13Orionshock.. well it's on the svn too @ googlecode, :P
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07:39.40KillmoreOrionshock: im joking :P
07:41.55Pkekyo|well, he didn't deny it is a keylogger :p
07:42.07Killmorehaha
07:43.53Zhinjiois there a function that returns the largest integer key from a table, or do I have to go iterate over it?
07:43.58Zhinjiothey aren't sequential
07:44.20ZhinjioOrionshock, did I see GroupCalendar on your site as well?
07:44.25ZhinjioI thought someone else maintained that
07:44.34Orionshocki was messing with it
07:44.38Zhinjiok
07:44.40Pkekyo|~svn
07:44.41purlSubversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/.
07:44.48xt~git
07:45.30Zhinjioanyone know the answer to my question about table keys?
07:45.47Pkekyo|no
07:45.52Pkekyo|noone in the entire world does
07:46.21Pkekyo|bah, I fucking hate roaming named mobs
07:46.40Orionshockhumm.... tbl[#tbl-1] ?
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07:46.56Nargiddleyif they arent sequential you have to do it yourself
07:47.10cladhaireno
07:47.11Zhinjioyeah, non-sequential. ok.
07:47.12exor|zzzor like, keep track of it in the table? :P
07:47.13cladhairetable.maxn
07:47.26Orionshockindex tables must be in sequential order other wise it's a dict table?
07:47.28mathuinAnyone know how to make a Baggins rule that uses PTSet wildcards?
07:47.31Pkekyo|been hunting for this bloody polar bear in winterspring for an hour now
07:47.32cladhairelua> t = {1,2,3,4,5, [129] = true}; print(table.maxn(t)
07:47.34Pkekyo|>.<
07:47.35Orionshocki thought the auto adjusted?
07:47.51Nargiddleymathuin, wildcard how ?
07:48.03cladhaireeither way
07:48.13cladhairetable.maxn returns the highest integer key in the table
07:48.17mathuinI want to modify the current TrashEquip rule to exempt all crafted items and all reputation rewards.
07:48.17cladhairebut it iterates to find it.
07:48.29mathuinI don't want to have to list each possible craft or reputation individually.
07:48.46Zhinjioalright... um... what if my table looks like this... table = { ["32791"] = {...}, ["84932"] = {...}, ... }
07:48.48mathuinThe ItemType rule type supports wildcards.
07:48.54Zhinjiowill it still work?
07:49.01Nargiddleythe pt set doesnt support them
07:49.07mathuin"NOT ItemType - Quest:*" for example.
07:49.20Nargiddleythats not a wildcard, thats just itemtype quest
07:49.28Nargiddleywith no check on subtype
07:49.41mathuinIs there a similar feature with ptset?
07:49.46Nargiddleydont you just want the Rep reward set ?
07:50.20cladhaireZhinjio: those aren't integer keys
07:50.22cladhairethose are string keys
07:50.24cladhaireso no
07:50.25Orionshockya Killmore your gonna need to get some guildies to help you test, it's a synch'ing type mod only useful in large groups
07:50.28mathuinNargiddley: that has the same effect.
07:51.05Nargiddleyyou dont have to pick the most specific set, a set includes all its child sets
07:51.17Zhinjioyeah, indeed.
07:51.42mathuinExcellent.  Out of curiosity, is there an easy way to identify what set or sets a particular item may be in?
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07:52.17Nargiddleythat broke with the move to PT3.1, so not atm
07:52.31mathuinIs there a not-easy way, i.e., is there a lua file I can troll?
07:53.29NargiddleyI dont think the pt sets are compressed anymore, searching for the itemid in those would do it
07:53.45mathuinOkay, I need to find out the itemid for the particular item.
07:53.55Nargiddleyalt-right click it in baggins
07:55.19mathuinRight on.  You've been very helpful.  Thanks!
07:55.50CIA-803jerry * r57794 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_zhCN.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate
08:01.04OrionshockKillmore: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/files/GuildCraft.zip
08:01.11Killmorek
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08:02.32testifyAre there any ace addons similar to outfitter or itemrack?
08:02.48durcynClosetGnome.
08:02.49Zhinjiothe beginnings of the sync code are started. I can't turn back now. *grin*
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08:04.14Orionshockeh?
08:04.29testifyThanks durcyn, I just found out how long it's been since an itemrack release and I figured I'd better find something else quick
08:06.21KillmoreOrionshock: same error
08:06.26Orionshockbull
08:08.37Orionshockkk
08:08.37Orionshocktry now :P
08:08.37durcynbigzero: er, you might want to actually commit the locale files for GlowFoSho.
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08:10.19ZhinjioOMG NOES: [2008/01/02 01:08:50-2367-x1]: SKG-502\SKG_UtilityFunctions.lua:666: unfinished string near '" )'
08:10.24Zhinjioline 666.... I'm doomed.
08:13.53Zhinjiowhat do y'all like to listen to while coding.
08:13.58ZhinjioI'm getting tired of my current playlist
08:15.17CIA-803bigzero * r57795 10GlowFoSho/locales/ (5 files):
08:15.18CIA-8GlowFoSho:
08:15.18CIA-8- and here are the missing locales
08:15.52bigzerodurcyn, good idea...thanks
08:16.29exor674but, you mean SVN can't just magicly read files off the developers computer
08:16.37exor674we actally have to COMMIT them?
08:17.55bigzeroyeah, that's what i call crappy software
08:20.34ShadowedAnyone recall the link to Magictrick that was postedon fileplanet a few days ago
08:20.40bigzeroany trick to downing the first boss in heroic mana tombs?
08:20.52Shadowedkill him
08:20.53Shadowedbefore you die
08:21.04bigzerodidn't MagicTrick get uploaded to ace svn?
08:21.24Shadoweduh
08:21.25Shadowedmaybe
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08:21.58bigzeroperhaps not yet...the author was on today saying that he's stopping development of that and something else
08:22.13bigzeroand said he would commit to ace svn for someone to pick it up
08:22.18Shadowedit's not in trunk
08:22.26bigzeromaybe he didn't do it yet
08:23.12Shadowedhrm i seem to be missing that log with the fileplanet url
08:23.26Zhinjiohmm
08:23.32Shadowed~log
08:23.33purllog is probably as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation
08:23.35bigzerohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10641.0
08:23.36Shadowedstupid bot
08:23.38ShadowedREAD MY MIND
08:23.39Shadowed~weblog
08:23.39purlLogfile toolkit for Python. URL: http://mnot.cbd.net.au//scripting/python/WebLog/
08:23.39testifyok here's a question: With closetgnome_mount can you revert to the previous set if you dismount from a spellcast?
08:23.49Shadowed~weblogs
08:23.58bigzeroShadowed, look at that forum post
08:24.22Arrowmaster~logs
08:24.23purli guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
08:24.40Arrowmasteris that what you were looking for?
08:24.43evlHow do I set the bounds of a FontString?
08:25.27Shadowedah there we go
08:28.49Perniciushow long does in normaly take to get an SVN account?
08:29.29Antiarc......
08:29.30Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168519728&sid=1
08:29.33Antiarc*facepalm*
08:30.17Shadowed1-3 days
08:30.44Shadowedhum
08:30.49ShadowedI wonder if you can track enemies putting down totems
08:30.55Perniciushmm ... i hope it takes so long couse och christmas/new year
08:31.18Pernicius*cause of
08:32.19ShadowedXinhuan: what'd you say, afflicted or affliction!
08:32.40XinhuanAfflicted heh
08:33.47XinhuanShadowed, he posted on wowace general addons forums after i told him to
08:33.50Shadowedyea
08:33.53ShadowedI saw that
08:34.09ShadowedI'm just going to steal MagicTrick and build off of that, saves me having to do a lot of research
08:35.01Shadowedhis code is easy enough to understand, not that hard to rip things out
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08:36.57evlAntiarc: needs less binary distribution? :P
08:39.41Xinhuanlol Antiarc
08:39.45Xinhuango download a copy now
08:39.48AntiarcI just downloaded it
08:39.50Xinhuanand see if the trojan exists
08:39.52AntiarcAnd took it apart
08:39.54AntiarcI didn't see one
08:40.00AntiarcBut it's possible the patcher downloads it or something
08:40.08AntiarcI'll fire up my VM
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08:49.04AntiarcSo
08:49.06AntiarcI'm writing a new mod
08:49.14AntiarcCalled Buff UpTime Tracker System
08:49.49bigzeronice change in 2.4 for locks: It will be possible to summon people who are outside an instance from inside an instance. This change will come in content patch 2.4.
08:50.11Perniciusnice
08:50.42Cammavery nice, I thoug the disabled this in ZA because of exploting
08:51.25Perniciusi think thy will only enable this in non-raid instaces
08:52.37evlIt will probably involve something like: you can only summon someone that is either saved to the instance or only if nobody else is saved in the instance.
08:52.40Cammathat does'nt realy make sence. I hardly remember any 5men ist. where people did drop out
08:53.13evlBut yeah, that would be silly because you couldn't get replacements :P
08:53.31KalrothAntiarc: Tired of paladins not rebuffing their bloody blessings, eh?!
08:53.45AntiarcKalroth: Wanting to check SnD/Blade Flurry uptime vs combat uptime for my rogues
08:53.58KalrothOh
08:54.13KalrothThat's boring though, you can't use that to flame healers with.
08:54.22AntiarcI wrote Healcap to flame healers
08:54.28AntiarcBut that was al ong time ago
08:55.00Cammahmm I only got flamed for not beaing dead as a hunter, wile wiping
08:55.14KalrothAll huntards can fsck off!
08:55.21HealthShut up Kalroth
08:55.24Killmorehaha
08:55.32KalrothAnd shitty priests like Health!
08:55.41HealthI'm a fucking druid too
08:55.46ZhinjioYAY! My hasning function works perfectly.
08:55.51KalrothThat doesn't make you less cheesy!
08:55.56Health:D
08:56.49CammaI need the hunter to keep my money in the +, for some crap reason my (deff) Warrior normaly bites the dust first
08:57.51evlAntiarc: won't snd/bf tracking be a bit hard? what if you switch targets or have to position yourself so you don't get the bf effect etc?
08:58.04AntiarcI'm just planning on watching for aura changes
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08:58.32evlwhat's its purpose exactly? :P
08:58.36evlCan't this be done with WWS
08:59.29Xinhuannot everyone uses wws
08:59.32Xinhuanor wants to use wws
08:59.40Xinhuanits overkill for small simple things
08:59.47Xinhuanlike checking how many times your trinket procced
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09:00.03AntiarcWe use WWS, and I'm not sure it can track uptime
09:00.14evlYeah, you're right it doesn't :/
09:00.22AntiarcIt tracks the number of times you gain the buff
09:00.26AntiarcBut that doesn't count refreshes
09:00.44Xinhuanbecause it can't ;d
09:00.52AntiarcI know
09:00.58evlBut I mean effective SnD usage is really low compared to how often it's actually effective, say when you kill a trash mob and use the remainder cp for a new snd you might run for 5+ seconds before you reach the next add
09:01.15AntiarcI'm not looking for the ultimate theorycrafting addon here
09:01.20AntiarcI just want an uptime percentage
09:01.41evlcan't you just check if snd is active everytime you damage an opponent?
09:01.46AntiarcAll things being held equal, a rogue with a lower SnD uptime in the raid needs work
09:01.55Antiarcevl: I'm meaning all rogues in the raid, not just myself
09:01.58evlaha
09:02.08evla raiding rogue with less than 100% uptime should find a new guild :P
09:02.21AntiarcWell, you can't have 100%
09:02.24AntiarcBut you should be close
09:02.37AntiarcUnless you know how to enter combat with SnD on :P
09:02.43evlheh, forgt that :P
09:02.45evlsay 95%¨
09:02.56AntiarcIt'll depend on the total combat time and number of times combat is dropped
09:03.00evlmost bad rogue dps is caused by people thinking a big number finisher is better than snd
09:03.45AntiarcEh, I find it's more subtle than that
09:03.54AntiarcMost bad rogue DPS is caused by people not realizing the value of contact time
09:03.58hastepremeditation go! best raid spec ever!
09:04.07AntiarcMore abysmal rogue DPS is caused by not realizing the value of SnD :P
09:04.12Antiarchaste: Hahahahah
09:04.16haste(at least you can have 100% SnD uptime!)
09:04.34FinalXsnd = <3
09:05.17FinalXcombat sword spec, SS -> SnD -> AR -> SnD = goodbye packs of mobs :p
09:05.24FinalXeh
09:05.30evlit seems silly but the biggest dps upgrade in BT/HYjal is the 2-set T6 bonus
09:05.31FinalXs/SnD/BF/2
09:05.36evljust insane how much 5% adds
09:05.54Kalrothevl: I'd guess around 5%?
09:06.06evlmore, potency procs, poison
09:06.19Kalrothhow can 5% be more than 5%? ;P
09:06.31evl5% speed doesn't equal 5% more dps linear?
09:06.31AntiarcHaste rating!
09:06.33Antiarc:P
09:06.40Kalrothoh, it's speed
09:06.44KalrothI thought it was 5% damage :)
09:06.53evlthat would make... no sense :P
09:06.53AntiarcYes, SnD goes from 30% to 35% haste
09:07.10AntiarcThat's like a free uh
09:07.15KalrothPie.
09:07.16evland with a swword like  savagery it's like lawl energy fest"!
09:07.21Antiarc78 haste rating or so
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09:17.53Shadowedyou know
09:18.00Shadowedyou'd think something thats suppose to have been uber popular
09:18.04ShadowedONE person would post a screenshot of magictrack
09:18.38cladhairewhat is magictrack?
09:18.51Shadowedtracks silences and shields
09:18.56Shadowedlike NECB, but without 50000000 things
09:18.58Shadowedyou don't care about
09:19.02cladhaireheh
09:19.15[Ammo]hmm
09:19.28[Ammo]well I did an addon yesterday that hadn't been done yet :)
09:19.36Shadowedmm?
09:19.36[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/clock.jpg
09:19.41HealthIt's a bit like Antagonist but just a few abilities related to arena
09:19.44FinalXamg utwente :P
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09:19.58Healthand Antagonist seem to miss a bunch of stuff sometimes
09:20.01[Ammo]haha, don't live there anymore for 5 years :p
09:20.02Shadowedyea
09:20.03cladhaire[Ammo]: its been done, but this is nicer than those were, imo :P
09:20.15[Ammo]I coudlnt' find any
09:20.18[Ammo]on the addon sites
09:20.21cladhairewhere can I get MagicTrack?
09:20.23Zhinjiothere's a clock in groupcalendar.
09:20.31cladhaire[Ammo]: most were done 1-2 years ago.. and are way out of date
09:20.36Zhinjionot that thats what you use it for
09:20.41cladhaireor weren't released beyond the forums
09:20.57FinalXI never went to Uni though, thought working was much more fun, interesting and rewarding (both monetary and knowledge..).. :) No regrets :P
09:21.04Healthcladhaire: It was never released.. only for selected arena players
09:21.09cladhaireah okay
09:21.11Healthbut now it "leaked"
09:21.35Healthhttp://www.radikalnoise.com/2007/12/magictrack.html
09:21.53Shadowedit's really not that complicated an addon
09:22.07HealthI'd say Antagonist is better.. but it keeps missing stuff
09:22.13HealthSo it sucks
09:22.15ShadowedAntagonist tracks more then I care about
09:24.14cladhaireShadowed: let me know what you end up doing with it, seems like it'd be useful for me.
09:25.00Shadowedcladhaire: Not that much else, it's missing a few silences. Going to see if I can track totem pulsing. But mostly all it needs is a GUI to make it a bit easier to configure
09:25.12cladhairecool
09:25.15cladhairewell lemme know where i can get it
09:25.18cladhaire:P
09:25.29Healthcladhaire: The link I posted is where you can get it
09:25.32Shadowedwatch SVN!
09:25.34Shadowedwell
09:25.36cladhaireI don't want _that_ version.
09:25.37Shadowedwatch CIA spamming SVN
09:25.41Health;p
09:25.47cladhaireShadowed: No, ping me personally in #dongle bitch
09:25.53Shadowedwhatever lazy fucker
09:26.04cladhaire:P
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09:27.19Orionshock:( debuff that makes your armor go to 0 as the MT is bad
09:27.43cladhairetrue
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09:32.24bigzerois there something ace'd that's like Possessions?
09:33.03KalrothOrionshock: More rage is good!
09:33.20Orionshockya .. no
09:33.28KivinSanAnyone know if ChatFrame1:AddMessage() is used to display game text from channels, say, guild, emote, etc?
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09:33.57bigzerotry and see?
09:34.14exor674KivinSan: it all depends on your configuration I think
09:34.26KivinSanerm?
09:34.39Zhinjioeveryone can configure each chat frame to do display whatever they want
09:34.42KivinSanif I type a message in /1, what determines what API is used to show that on my screen, then
09:34.56KivinSanokay, granted... perhaps i'm not asking the right question
09:35.53bigzeroBlizzard API uses AddMessage() method to display chat frame content...look at the chatframe.lua file
09:36.03KivinSanAlright, that's all I needed. Cheers.
09:38.51KivinSanI'm trying to figure out the best way to get "pure" incoming messages before addons like Prat mangle it
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09:45.16Godzmacki saw an addon once that could track what was happening while you were zoning/loading and what could possibly be slowing it down but can't remember the name
09:45.35Godzmackdoes that ring a bell for anyone?
09:46.24HealthThen blizzard supressed all events during zoning
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09:48.18Godzmacki thought so but after installing capping my zoning time increased by like ~10 sec
09:48.25Godzmackand removing it doesn't do anything
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09:55.18ArrowmasterKivinSan: best way to get the "pure" incoming messages is to listen to the CHAT_MSG_* events
09:56.31KivinSanArrowmaster: I was hoping to be able to stop them from reaching the chat frame
09:57.47Arrowmasterthen you either hook the functions inside the chatframe handlers or the chatframe addmessages
09:58.04Arrowmasterbut everything else hooks those too
09:58.06KivinSanIt looks like intercepting ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler does the trick..
09:58.28KivinSanI have done  a hackjob unsafe hook of it and i'm getting CHAT_MSG_TEXT_EMOTEs and stuff around shattrath
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09:58.58KivinSanHmm... okay... It picked up an emote but not a trade message.
09:59.22Arrowmasterchatframe has multiple handlers
09:59.27Arrowmasterfind the right one first
10:00.06Arrowmasteralthough you might have the right one
10:01.57KivinSanit looks like said handler recieves CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL notifications, however my hook isn't picking them up.  Could it be Prat doing it?
10:02.33Arrowmastermaybe
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10:03.27KivinSanI'm thinking prat's hook formats channel messages and passes the rest down to the blizzard handler.  i'm just getting the fallout from prat
10:06.22KivinSanAside from adding ! to the addon, or using dependencies to make prat load afterwards, so i can ninja the hook, i can't think of how to get in before prat scoops up the channel messages
10:07.48CIA-803jerry * r57796 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add two missing patterns in deDE (reported by Ryanthusar)
10:08.21AntiarcI've never had problems with Prat mangling my events
10:08.50KivinSanIf I ever said it's mangling text, I was using the wrong word
10:09.00KivinSanIt formats channel messages from [2 - Trade] to just [2]
10:12.31Antiarcdyslexics are teople poo.
10:13.07CIA-803jerry * r57797 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add expertise related entries in frFR.
10:13.16ckknightAntiarc: dyslexia is an STD
10:13.20KivinSan...
10:13.37KivinSanckknight: Make PitBull stop opening RockConfig on right clicks >_<
10:13.45ckknightNO U
10:13.51KivinSanOKAY
10:13.53KivinSanhow do i fix it
10:14.22Zhinjio<PROTECTED>
10:14.35KivinSan>_>
10:15.53ckknightKivinSan: not sure
10:16.01KivinSanckknight: Do you know why it happens?
10:16.08ckknighthas to do with making button2 exist for non-standard frames
10:16.33Zhinjiowhere does it open rockcoinfig? when you right click what?
10:16.44KivinSanWhen you right click a ... non-standard frame
10:16.48KivinSanie: target's target's target
10:16.52KivinSanmain tank 1
10:16.55Zhinjioah.
10:17.00HealthYOU are a no-standard frame
10:17.01ZhinjioI was going to say.
10:17.08thulCHOCOLATE RAIN
10:17.12Zhinjioright clicking my unit frame gives me the right stuff
10:17.18thulhmm, my aguf doesen't show target of target anymore :-(
10:17.28KivinSanRockConfig takes 5+ seconds to come up on my screen and freezes the UI in the process... right clicking a unit frame in pvp kills me every time
10:17.28Zhinjiothul, you need to let go of that dude.
10:17.38ZhinjioI know he's cute and all and you think his voice is the sexah.
10:17.43Zhinjiobut like.... get over it
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10:17.48KivinSanckknight: Care to give me a clue where the right-click handler is?
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10:18.09ckknightKivinSan: search for SetAttribute
10:18.21ckknightand possibly "*button2"
10:18.28thulZhinjio: D
10:18.28thulnevah
10:18.32thulmy gf hates the song by now.
10:18.33Zhinjioheh
10:19.18KivinSanframe:SetScript("OnMouseDown", configFrame_OnMouseDown)
10:22.05KivinSanPitBull.lua : 4035.  frame_custom_menu(this,unit) PitBull:OpenConfigMenu(this.group) end
10:22.36thulhmm
10:23.28KivinSanI commented out that line and I no longer have anything happen when i r-click a targettarget frame
10:24.02KivinSanckknight: That's your culprit.  I'm not exactly sure what it's <supposed> to do.
10:24.15ckknightthat part is fine
10:24.30ckknightit's just that it isn't supposed to open for flat button2
10:24.38ckknightbut is for ctrl-button2, etc.
10:24.44KivinSanI see
10:25.10KivinSanframe:SetAttribute("*type2", "custom_menu").... that's where it's coming from
10:25.19KivinSanI wish I knew more about secure templates
10:26.50KivinSanOh well, I'm keeping that line commented out
10:27.08KivinSani never knew ctr-click was supposed to work in the first place, so I shouldn't miss it too much xP
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10:28.44thulok, now i hate pitbull again
10:28.47thulfucking asshattery :pø
10:28.50KivinSanO_O
10:28.55KivinSan*blink*
10:29.06ckknightasshattery?
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10:30.52KivinSanckknight: Might I suggest disabling that line in the trunk version until someone figures out how to get the ctrl+click config to work?
10:30.58ckknightno.
10:31.22KivinSansuit yourself
10:31.25ckknightit's about getting the normal right-click to stop working
10:31.30ckknightoverriding it
10:31.53thulyes, asshattery :-P
10:32.01thuli just want pitbull to actually do what i tell it to do :-(
10:32.14ckknightwhat's the issue?
10:32.14KivinSanPitBulls aren't known for their obedience.  Woof.
10:32.27ckknightbeing overly vague isn't helpful at all, so you know
10:32.53thul:-P
10:33.07thulI just want it to hide the party frames AND use the scaling i input, but it doesen't.
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10:35.28thulfuck
10:35.30thuland i want tab-targeting (nothign to do with pitbull ofc) TO ACTUALLY WORK IN PVP
10:36.26SunTsuckknight: BTW. is there any option to only show the group you are in with pitbull and raids?
10:36.47ckknighthrm, I'm not sure there is
10:36.53ckknightwait, yes
10:36.57ckknightyou just hide raid
10:37.00ckknightand show part in raid
10:37.02ckknightparty*
10:37.05ckknightthere's an option for it
10:37.27SunTsuckknight: Ah, I see, I just expected it to be under grouping. Thanks
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10:40.36Zhinjiosemi-regular request for code review/critique: http://geo.trippy.org/SKG?SKG_5.02.zip .... plugin feedback/info at http://skg.trippy.org/
10:41.02KivinSan*sigh* this bug is driving me crazy and I can't figure out how to fix it
10:41.21KivinSanonly happens with Pawn and Cowtip running at the same time
10:41.52ckknightPawn?
10:42.08KivinSanAn item rating addon
10:42.08vithosthul: heh, i fucking hate targetting in wow too.
10:42.19KivinSanIt parses tooltips and gives a numeric value for the sum of their stats
10:42.46KivinSanWhenever I hover my mouse over an item button, both on the character page, or a bag, which doesn't have an item in it, Pawn gets a message to parse a nil tooltip
10:42.57KivinSanI shut off CowTip and pawn stops getting phony notifications
10:43.10vithostrying to click on someone that's moving through a group of players while you're moving at the same time = good luck.  and tab targetting of course is just as bad
10:43.22KivinSanName plates are <3
10:43.25KivinSanI'd be screwed without them
10:43.28Lukianare there any guildbank management addons?
10:43.36Lukiansay.. I want to move half of tab 1 to tab 2.
10:43.37vithosname plates reorder spacially too much
10:43.53KivinSanStill helps
10:44.00KivinSanGives you a much larger hit box
10:44.07KivinSanEven if it is still a moving target
10:44.30SunTsuAloft gives me nice big nameplates
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10:45.31KivinSanckknight: Can you think of any reason why GameTooltip would get a :Set*() API call with nil parameters when hovering over a blank item button, while CowTip is running?
10:45.43vithosi just think with how often name plates will swap places instantly, it might do me more harm than good.  but i do play with them on sometimes
10:45.50thulvithos: yup
10:46.01ckknightKivinSan: which :Set*?
10:46.06KivinSanckknight: I have no idea
10:46.08thuli just want "hey, the lock I'm pounding gets help from a warrior, i have to tab to blind".. tab, tab, tab, tab... no?
10:46.11thul*cries*
10:46.16vithosthough, i do play on a 25ms LCD, which doesn't help, since the ghosting makes it nearly impossible to read the unit names as they move around the screen
10:46.31KivinSanckknight: I'll add some debug code and see if i can find out
10:46.45vithosbut i just wish there was a better way.
10:47.07CammaVit kill quicker ;)
10:47.17KivinSanhttp://ace.pastey.net/79901 <- that's why i can't tell you
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10:49.13thulwork in 2 hours
10:49.14thulbuhu
10:50.41vithosCamma: i have no problem putting out damage.  it's just that the recipient isn't always who i want :P
10:50.52KivinSanlol...
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10:51.15KivinSanI sometimes depend on auto-target when I jump off my horse and try to gank someone and end up doing 6000 critical damage to some poor hunter's pet
10:51.36vithoslol
10:51.42KivinSanckknight: Apologies.  It isn't GameTooltip at all. It's some goofy hidden tooltip that is unique to Pawn.
10:51.43SunTsuI find it quite annoying that the first tab normally doesn't change the target and you _always_ have to tab twice
10:51.43vithosi kill hunter pets so often.
10:51.50vithosand i'm a hunter
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10:52.22SunTsuvithos: Well, if your opponent is a BM it might be a wise thing to do ;)
10:52.28thulhmm, I hate locks, did I mention that? :-P
10:52.32vithosi am BM too :)
10:52.33SunTsuIf he is not, well ;)
10:52.42vithosbut man does it suck when hunters use snake traps
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10:53.29SunTsuvithos: My hunter is, too. Just dinged lvl50 and my pet most of the time does more damage than me, so killing it would be a wise move in PvP
10:53.42KivinSanSunTsu: That generally isn't the case after lv.62
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10:54.31SunTsuKivinSan: Is that when you get aimed shot? ;)
10:54.55vithossteady shot, i think?
10:54.57KivinSanSunTsu: You can get aimed shot at around lv.20-25... Steady Shot is 62
10:55.06KivinSanIt's a cheaper aimed shot with no cooldown
10:55.14KivinSanthat doesn't reset your autoshot swing timer
10:55.33SunTsuKivinSan: Ah, sounds great
10:55.56vithosyeah, you stop using aimed shot and serpent sting at that point
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10:56.00KivinSanbasically, every other shot (due to global cooldown) you can weave in an extra shot
10:56.52thulalmost like slam :-P
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10:57.35KivinSanexactly like slam, actually ;p
10:57.38LukianI just tried to name a guild bank tab "Leatherworking" and it errors with: "That name contains mature language. Enter a new name"
10:57.53thulwell, slam you can spam each hit
10:57.56thulnot each other? :-P
10:57.59KivinSanExcept most warriors are too stupid to realize how amazing slam is.  hunters have been so depraved that they leap all over steady shot.
10:58.20KivinSanbut it's most efficient to weave slam into your standard autoattack
10:58.40Thelynaactually, warriors generally have better options than slam, hunters have nothing better than steady shot >.>
10:58.59KivinSanIs there any way I can fetch what link was passed into SomeTooltip:SetHyperlink() without hooking the function?
10:59.07Thelynaexcept arcane because it's instant and multi because of the 0.5s cast for MM/Surv hunters doing 1:1.5 rots
10:59.19KivinSanThelyna: Slam is the best DPS ability you get with it improved
10:59.54KivinSanCompress a 3.6 to 3.8 weapon into a 1.5(?) second slam and that's a metric asstonne of dps
10:59.56thulwell, 2h fury = slam
11:00.14thulautoattack, then 0.5sec (imp slam) slam
11:00.25SunTsuHm, aimed shot is lvl 20-25? Then I have to find out why I don't have it, I normally use arcane shot
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11:00.47vithosit's a talent
11:00.51ThelynaSunTsu: it's the 11-pt talent in marksmanship
11:00.58SunTsuAh, OK, that explains. Thands
11:01.03Thelynawhat level/spec are you?
11:01.07KivinSanSunTsu: it's very expensive.  you wouldn't really want to use it even if you had it
11:01.10SunTsuI just have 3 points in there to extend my reach
11:01.19KivinSanreach is survival, not marks
11:01.20Thelynahawk eye is survival :o
11:01.26SunTsuThelyna: lvl50, beast master
11:01.40SunTsuKivinSan: OH, right.
11:01.45SunTsuI never understood that
11:01.48Thelynaand yeah, the only time I use aimed shot is for misdirection pulls where I need that extra oomph, and for pvp ambushes
11:02.06KivinSanYeah, it's a PVP ability, what with the healing debuff
11:02.17KivinSanUsing it in PVE is like a warrior mortal striking... pretty silly
11:02.19Thelynaotherwise you get more damage done with less mana used just by steady/auto
11:02.36KivinSansteady is a ton more damage per mana
11:02.56Thelynaerm what ... warriors shouldn't mortal strike in pve?
11:03.07KivinSanslam is a better choice 100% of the time
11:03.13thulThelyna: in pvp? yes
11:03.15KivinSanhalf as much rage and similar dps
11:03.18thulslam can be interrupted
11:03.28thulthat is the problem with slam in pvp
11:03.30thulit is not instant
11:03.31Thelynathul: pve.
11:03.36KivinSanpve...
11:03.39thulah, pve.
11:03.44thulpve = imp slam
11:03.48thulwith BT as filler
11:03.48thul:-P
11:03.56Thelynaslam resets the swing timer right?
11:04.13KivinSanaimed shot 7 = 370 Mana, (Damage + 870);  Steady shot 1 = 110 mana (Damge + (20% of RAP) + 150)
11:04.14KivinSanYes, it does
11:04.30_ranemy war partner uses slam in arena
11:04.37thulyeah
11:04.44thulthat is why I use a slam timer:P
11:04.47KivinSanslam is king if you can get something to stay still long enough to whack him with it
11:05.03KivinSan1000 white damage every .5 seconds? yes please
11:05.12KivinSanwell, every 1.5 seconds with global cooldown
11:05.36_ranewe got to 1900 with him having Thunder and last night he got the s3 mace
11:05.53Thelynaso slam once after every white swing, but after that you're better off waiting for the next white swing to slam again
11:06.00Thelynano?
11:06.02KivinSanCorrect
11:06.19Thelynabut with a decent level of gear wouldn't that be a net rage gain?
11:06.20KivinSan|-*----|-*----|-*----|
11:06.29KivinSanBars mark the beginning of a swing, stars mark the beginning of a slam
11:07.11KivinSanI don't understand the question
11:07.42Thelynaassuming you're just slamming after every white swing, wouldn't you gain rage?
11:07.51thulyes
11:07.57thuland that rage, you use for bloodthirts, whirlwind or ms :-P
11:08.20Thelynawhich makes "<KivinSan> slam is a better choice 100% of the time" a lie?
11:08.37KivinSan... while you have adequate rage.  Obviously.
11:08.38SunTsu.o0( Normally MS gives me rage, unlimited, but that's mostly in IT, not in WoW )
11:09.30thulThelyna: well, 100% of the time a slam SHOULD be used
11:09.36thul(right after swing timer resets)
11:09.47thulbloodthirst/ww etc are just fillers:p
11:10.00KivinSanMS 6 = 30 Rage, Damage + 210.  Slam 6 = 15 Rage, Damage + 140
11:10.32KivinSanAssuming 1k white damage, MS = 40.3 Dmg/Rage, Slam = 76
11:11.20KivinSanI'm not disqualifying stuff like whirlwind.  But in a PVE situation where you can either whack em with slam or mortal strike, slam is the better choice.  100% of the time.
11:12.06thul2h fury for lvling ftw
11:12.31KivinSanindeed
11:12.39KivinSan2h fury for party dps ftw, too
11:13.06KivinSanI've had a Improved slam warrior with gorehowl clock out very close to 1k dps in a normal SH, which is very difficult to do
11:14.14thulwhat i got impressed by, was logging into my shaman  (lvl 63) and speccing enhancement with the new focus talent
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11:14.29KivinSanYes, that's very yummy
11:14.45thulI really, really liked the dps i got on my shammy now, so much that i actually want to lvl him to 70 and try to find a raiding guild
11:15.11KivinSanMy kara's top performer is an enhance shaman with a blend of warlords and season 1 pvp gear
11:15.45KivinSanI expect my new retribution pala to beat him, though
11:16.06thulI out-dps all palas, shamans, warriors, locks etc on my rogue, but then again, my rogue doesen't bring _anything_ else to the table than dps.
11:16.07vithos...that's just so wrong.
11:16.07Thelynaah, I misunderstood then .. from your initial tone it sounded like you were saying the only ability a warrior needed bound was slam
11:16.09thulso that is ok :-P
11:16.45KivinSanThelyna: No, not at all.  I was merely saying Slam is correct in any situation where you might be pushing MS
11:16.56thulonly people i have trouble outdpsing is mages :-(
11:17.01vithosmaybe at that gear level, but end game enh shaman and ret paladin dps doesn't compete
11:17.01Thelynaassuming you haven't slammed already on that swing timer
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11:17.44vithoswe have a ret paladin in our raids.  we've killed illidan
11:17.49KivinSanOkay.
11:17.51vithoswe also have an enh shaman
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11:18.01KivinSangod, stop spamming
11:18.14KivinSanBecaues I read WWS reports and watch BT videos on a semi regular basis involving ret palas
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11:18.32KivinSanand i've seen them hit top 3 dps on gorefiend and illidan
11:18.39Thelynahttp://wowwebstats.com/mr3nqcb2bcyce?s=0-180 .... that looks like pretty competitive enh shaman damage tbh
11:18.45AntiarcThe biggest argument against a ret paladin, for me, is that they require Windfury to be viable, and that spot just works so much better for another rogue.
11:18.57AntiarcAnd our enh shammy is very competitive.
11:19.12ThelynaAntiarc: you don't WF your tanks?
11:19.31AntiarcI know we have a shaman in the MT group, but she's resto and I don't know if she drops WF or not
11:19.38AntiarcWe save our enh shammy for our melee DPS group
11:19.54Thelynaif you drop anything other than WF in a MT group you're, tbh, a bit loopy in the head
11:20.07AntiarcI just stab things, what do I know? :P
11:20.14Thelynaexcept, very possibly, a fight where healer mana is taxed by MT damage
11:20.17KivinSanWe have a bear tank, so grace of air goes down
11:20.18nevcairielagility for tanks for dodge ? :P
11:20.19Thelynawhich is pretty rare these days
11:20.35ThelynaWF = more threat for tanks = your dps can go harder
11:21.07AntiarcI never have threat problems with our MT, so I dunno. I just give her a 5k threat head start (or none at all!) and start merrily DPSing
11:21.11KivinSanThe theorycraft has been done at EJ and it's widely accepted, there, that 1 Warrior tank is enough to justify a WF totem
11:21.11vithosan enh shaman is definitely worth the raid spot, and yeah, his dps is actually not that far behind
11:21.14AntiarcBarring fights like Gurtogg
11:21.31AntiarcThe amount of DPS that an enh shaman brings to a melee DPS group is staggering
11:22.00vithosbut our ret pally, in the enh shaman group, is definitely not pulling his weight
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11:22.15KivinSanWhat kind of numbers is he putting out?
11:22.15vithosmaybe it's just this guy and not the class, i don't know
11:22.16AntiarcWe run rogue+rogue+33/28 warrior+enh shaman+feral druid, usually
11:22.22Thelynado you have an armory and WWS reports?
11:22.35ThelynaAntiarc: too easy, swap the fdruid and ret paladin :)
11:22.44AntiarcI like mah haelz :(
11:23.04vithoslet me see if there's any wws that hasn't expired
11:23.05Thelynajust get a resto shaman and it's sorted, no?
11:23.08thuli want to raid as enhancement shamans
11:23.13AntiarcOur feral druid also puts out some frightening DPS when she's allowed to just full-out DPS. She's usually #2 on Najentus, behind me
11:23.18KivinSanvithos: I want to say it's at least partially him.  I'm loathe to make sweeping statements when you're the BT raider and I'm not
11:23.37KivinSanvithos: ... but I've seen pretty compelling videos where either the entire raid is under performing, or the paladin is seriously pulling his weight
11:23.46ThelynaAntiarc: WTB your feral druid
11:24.05Thelynaour feral normally comes in just ahead of the MT on naj :/
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11:24.12AntiarcHeh, ouch
11:24.34Thelynahe's a pretty solid tank
11:24.39Thelynabut his dps just isn't there
11:25.07AntiarcWe have two feral tanks. One is the aforementioned, who basically kicks ass at everything. Respecs and heals for Gurtogg even, heh.
11:25.20AntiarcThe other does well when he knows his job ahead of time, but has the reaction speed of a glacier.
11:25.34KivinSanthat's not good...
11:25.46Thelynawe have a few special cases
11:26.03Thelynaattention span of a goldfish, situational awareness of a stunned mullet
11:26.24KivinSanI frequently party with a rogue that has absolutely no attention span at all
11:26.30AntiarcNight elf?
11:26.36KivinSanundead
11:26.40KivinSanHe'll either let his mind wander off before a pull and forget that he's supposed to sap
11:26.48KivinSanand we'll all be going ...... uhhhh... ? sap?
11:26.50vithosthis is all i've got unfortunately.  valac is the ret pally http://wowwebstats.com/to2ajer45wmxc
11:26.53AntiarcBring a hunter
11:26.55AntiarcMD him on pulls
11:27.00AntiarcHe'll learn to pay attention real quick
11:27.03Thelynathen again I can't talk about attention span, I tend to spend half of any given instance alt-tabbed out
11:27.10SunTsu.o0( My reaction time in raids just got better. Maybe that's due that my fps went from 3 to 70-120... )
11:27.10AntiarcDual monitors for the win.
11:27.11Thelynawhich is kinda bad when I either tank or heal >.>
11:27.11KivinSanor he gets distracted by TV in the middle of a pull and auto runs into something
11:27.25vithosand it seems that armory is broken for my entire guild
11:27.30KivinSanvithos: He is awfully low, that paladin
11:27.36KivinSanarmory is broken, period.
11:27.41KivinSan"Waiting for refresh" nonsense
11:27.48thulI'm raiding at 5 fps :-P
11:28.27KivinSanvithos: Is it Aetherial?
11:28.38vithosAeth is prot.  Valac is ret
11:28.42KivinSanOook
11:28.51thulcorvette needs to buff his dps :-P
11:28.52KivinSanthat's even worse.  he got out-dpsed by a tank.
11:28.53Antiarc1k DPS is pretty low for melee on Anetheron, unless he was chain slept or something
11:29.12vithoswell, you can't really look at the full report.  that's including hyjal trash
11:29.21AntiarcI'm looking at specific splits
11:29.23KivinSani see
11:29.28Thelynayah, hyjal trash makes prot paladins look OP
11:29.36vithosyeah, that was directed at KivinSan
11:29.40AntiarcHyjal trash makes rockstars out of prot paladins
11:29.43KivinSani don't really know how to put it to a certain boss fight
11:29.47AntiarcAnd combat rogues. Dual Frenzy plz. >_>
11:29.54KivinSani don't use wws
11:29.55vithosKivinSan: the menu next to Split at the top
11:29.56SunTsuthul: Did that for a long time, was great "I'm a tank, too, you don't have to taunt mobs off me!" "Well, uh, didn't see that someone had it already..."
11:29.56AntiarcKivinSan: Hover over the "Split" text
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11:30.19AntiarcI'll tell you, one good thing about 2.3.2 will be that I'll be back to 41 combat with Combat Potency
11:30.27KivinSanok
11:30.32AntiarcAnd I get my delicious Hyjal frenzy blendermode where I get more energy than I can spend :D
11:30.39Antiarc0.16 offhand speed for the freakin' win.
11:30.53KivinSan1031 DPS isn't terrible
11:30.58AntiarcOn Anetheron?
11:31.03KivinSanI dunno, i don't raid Tier 6
11:31.04AntiarcAnetheron is a melee punching bag
11:31.07KivinSanI see
11:31.17KivinSanI was just going to ask if he spends much time running around fleeing from shit
11:31.17vithoslol i found another WWS with the ret pally in it.  it's a karazhan run  http://wowwebstats.com/swhu3q4mtjjdm
11:31.19AntiarcFor perspective, as a rogue, the last Anetheron kill I was on, I put out 1700 DPS
11:31.30KivinSani see
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11:31.45AntiarcKarazhan is tilted towards paladins since it's 95% undead.
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11:31.52KivinSanthat doesn't change anything
11:31.56Thelynaactually, more like 50%
11:31.58Thelynaand yes it does
11:32.01KivinSanA ret paladin wont be popping exorcism much
11:32.13Thelynaon short fights yes they will
11:32.17KivinSanhe did 3800 damage from exorcism and 0 damage from holy whatever it is
11:32.23Thelynaholy wrath
11:32.25evlretri fails.
11:32.30evlsomeone should make a t-shirt
11:32.30KivinSanit doesn't
11:32.32evlit fails
11:32.34AntiarcRet -can- be good.
11:32.34evlit's a rogue that sucks
11:32.48KivinSanmoroons that cling to antiquated ideas about ret fail
11:32.51KivinSanmorons*
11:32.52AntiarcIt's just not worth the opportunity cost of a good solid melee DPS in your windfury group, if you have one available.
11:33.00evl^ what he says
11:33.10AntiarcStanding alone, Ret can be great DPS.
11:33.28vithosyeah, you can definitely see his performance being subpar on that kara wws.  the worst part is he thinks his dps is awesome, and thought he beat me on that kara run too :(  he must have merge pets turned off or something.
11:33.37AntiarcBut you kick a rogue out of the windfury group and he's a wasted slot. A paladin out of the windfury group can still heal or tank. :P
11:33.40Thelynayou're neglecting the group buffs that a ret paladin brings though
11:33.53Thelynaahahah funny .. ever seen a ret paladin try to tank?
11:34.02AntiarcWe made our ret paladin respec prot. :P
11:34.02Thelynaa 0/0/0 spec warrior would do better, tbh (at tanking)
11:34.05evlyes, they are so nice in hyjal it's not even funny
11:34.12evlwarriors suck dick in MH
11:34.24Thelynawell, you want to bring one at least
11:34.43AntiarcWarriors are pretty fantastic offtanks for MH trash
11:34.52Thelynafor spell reflect on the pull, and to tank kazrogal and presumably anetheron and archimonde
11:34.55evlbut nothing soaks up aoe agro like a pala
11:35.02Thelynathat's true
11:35.03evlone of those ranged thingys and you have the whole pack
11:35.08AntiarcLet a paladin soak up the AOE, then have a warrior pull a few mobs off of him. Give him Unholy Frenzy and he's an unstoppable threat machine
11:35.09Thelynabut abominations on your paladin tank = gg
11:35.12evland you will have pala on #2 or #3 dps
11:35.17evljust spam heal pala
11:35.21evlit works a:P
11:35.33KalrothI often end up offtanking in dps gear, nothing soaks up aoe aggro like a dps warrior with sweeping strikes + whirlwind + cleave :P
11:35.43Thelynayour healers must be putting some mad heals out then
11:35.44AntiarcWars are also really nice for the billion-banshess wave before, uh, Anetheron?
11:35.44harldephinhm. i'm kind of soloing group-quests now. those that are meant to be for 2 or 3 players. that still ok for someone?
11:35.52Kalrothand once they start hitting me, it's only getting better
11:35.57AntiarcWe use them for shield wall if the NPCs disengage :P
11:36.02Thelynaon some of those bigger waves, there's like 10 mobs hitting your paladin
11:36.11Thelynaand if he gets stunned, he has no block, dodge or parry
11:36.20evlwith blizzard etc they don't hit that much
11:36.21Thelynaincoming dps spikes from ~1.5k to 5k
11:36.22harldephinpoooor pally
11:36.31KalrothThelyna: Eh, not really. I often end up tanking 1-2 ghouls or abdoms. And I very often tank the casters, since I pre-sunder them for rogues.
11:36.38evlThe times I've done MH with a pala tank it's been amazingly fun
11:36.47KalrothNothing like 3-4 rogues working on a pre-sundered caster.
11:36.57ThelynaKalroth: yeah, I was referring to basically having a paladin tank all the melee mobs in a wave
11:37.01AntiarcHaving a paladin tank makes all the difference in the world. It's just unbelievable how much better it makes the trash.
11:37.11AntiarcWe actually use a holy paladin in tank gear for it, but it works.
11:37.15evlA paladin in good gear has no problem tanking an entire melee wave
11:37.23KalrothThelyna: Oh, that's boring. Not enough fun for the dps warriors!
11:37.29evland the dps he puts out with thaat reflect crap is insane
11:37.50ThelynaKalroth: my rule in hyjal is if you pull it off me you can tank it
11:37.51evllike wtf 1700 dps on trash without spending any mana what the fook
11:37.58KalrothThelyna: Exactly!
11:38.09KivinSanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3706994255&sid=1
11:38.27Thelynaevl: er, actually, they're spending like 200 mana a second, they're just getting it back through spiritual attunement
11:38.28Kalrothlol
11:38.56evloh, I don't know much about it, I'm a rogue
11:39.20evlI just know that when we have pala tank I can watch TV and the whole wave just dies in AOE and we have 1-2 minutes to spare per wave
11:39.30harldephin<- druid
11:39.40Thelynavithos: tbh, the ret paladin wasn't the weak link in that kara group :o
11:39.50AntiarcSee, I love MH trash as a rogue, but that's because my priests love me and stack frenzy on me
11:39.59vithosThelyna: he and i were the only non-alt dpsers
11:40.01AntiarcThen I'm all "blade flurry 3500 dps lawl"
11:40.05evl:D
11:40.12KalrothAntiarc: Followed by a "res pls"
11:40.16AntiarcNah
11:40.18vithosThelyna: well except Sof, for part of it
11:40.21AntiarcYOu just do it 20 sec into the wave
11:40.32vithoserr.. k Sof for all of it.
11:40.54Healthyou're so hip and cool Kalroth
11:40.56vithosthe rest are wearing greens
11:41.05KalrothHealth: and you're still stuck in KZ!
11:41.22SunTsuI really like our prot paladin in the Eye. Takes all of Al'ars adds and the flying tratsh before it without even breaking asweat.
11:42.39Thelynacan do al'ar adds as well
11:42.46ThelynaI typically hold VR to sub 50%
11:42.54Thelynaexcept when I start the fight with salv >.>
11:43.05KalrothWe've had a warrior hold VR to sub 30%
11:43.13Thelynayou?
11:43.17KalrothA warrior
11:43.21KalrothI rarely tank
11:43.27HealthI can hold VR to 0%!
11:43.30AntiarcOur feral regularly holds VR for the full 100%. Sup dodge.
11:43.40evlidd, sup 70% dodge druids
11:43.40AntiarcDruid dodge rates depress me :(
11:43.52Thelyna'idd' means what?
11:43.56evlindeed
11:43.57KalrothIndeed
11:44.01KalrothFor some odd reason
11:44.03HealthIndeed it does
11:44.03AntiarcShe just tanks it in cat gear, and has a billion agility and something like 900% dodge or something.
11:44.24HealthYes, 900%
11:44.25Thelynalast time our MT tried doing VR in his dps gear he went splat >.>
11:44.26KalrothAntiarc: Our warrior stacks block value and put out 1300-1400 TPS, works fine too :)
11:44.53AntiarcHehe, that works, though that's sorta the brute-force way to do it :P
11:45.00ThelynaKalroth: what sort of numbers does he do on Teron?
11:45.03HealthOrc smash!
11:45.18Thelynathat's another fight I'd kinda like to tank
11:45.29Thelynaexorcism hoooo!
11:45.35KalrothThelyna: I don't know, but I've never had aggro issues on Teron, being fury and whatnot
11:45.36AntiarcWhat would be interesting about tanking Teron, really?
11:45.46KalrothThelyna: I'm guessing around 1000-1200
11:45.50evlAntiarc: watching some noob fail on the ghosts for thee 15th time
11:45.53nevcairielfor the tank teron is only a default fight
11:45.55Thelynathe main challenge to tanking teron is staying ahead of the dps
11:46.10evlvanish hooooo
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11:46.15AntiarcOur tank seems to do fine, but we use a warrior, who benefits a lot from Teron's low AC
11:46.27evlhe takes sick melee damage
11:46.29Zhinjioman, I picked the perfect time to post my gem auctions.
11:46.30AntiarcYeah
11:46.30Thelynateron is also a demon
11:46.32Zhinjiothere weren't ANY in AH
11:46.33Zhinjionone.
11:46.36Thelynaor undead, I can't remember
11:46.39AntiarcUndead.
11:47.07Thelynaso I figure in my regular tanking gear I should be able to put out 1k easily
11:47.19KalrothYou don't have mana issues?
11:47.19Thelynadid 900 on prince last week, but had mana issues, plus had to move him
11:47.35ThelynaI wouldn't on teron I'm pretty sure
11:47.48Thelynapretty sure he hits harder than prince :p
11:47.55AntiarcHe hits like a truck
11:47.57KalrothOh  yes
11:48.05AntiarcPlus incinerate and random shadow damage
11:48.11KalrothTeron and Bloodboil are the two worst tank killers in BT
11:48.23AntiarcBloodboil can go DIAF, really.
11:48.29KalrothYup, I hate that fight too
11:48.32Thelynayeah, last time we did teron (first kill) I was incinerate dispell bitch (+ random raid healing)
11:48.35KalrothIt's stupidly random
11:48.41AntiarcI don't enjoy that fight. Getting fel raged makes it amusing, briefly, but overall it just sucks.
11:48.43ThelynaI was prot spec for the fight, so my healing was pretty gimp
11:48.48KalrothFEL RAGE FIRE MAGE, LOL
11:48.49thulaawww
11:48.51Antiarc:(
11:48.55thulwho was the alliance ravencrester here? :-P
11:49.06AntiarcFire mage + fel rage = pay the repair dood 90% of the time.
11:49.20ThelynaAntiarc: bop lawlz!
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11:49.38Thelyna(I've read up on the fight, so I know that's a bad idea, I'm being stupid)
11:49.39AntiarcWe finally killed him with a single mage in the raid
11:49.41KalrothHave fun healing the tanks with a 10+ stack running already
11:49.55Antiarcbop = instawipe :P
11:49.56ThelynaI'd rather heal the tanks than a mage tbh
11:50.15Thelynaassuming the healers can react quickly enough, which is a pretty large assumption
11:50.21Thelynaespecially given our healers
11:50.31KalrothWhen I form raid for BB, I usually kick as many mages as possible. First I remove those that insist on casting when fel rage tanking.
11:50.38AntiarcHeheh.
11:50.43Kalroth"I CAN DODGE WHILE CASTING FIREBALL, RLY"
11:50.46ThelynaI tell them every week that I'll pay their repair bills if they die from healing aggro in hyjal
11:51.05Thelynaand every week I either die, or get saved by ardent defender, within 10s of the start of every pull
11:51.35Thelynacourse, ardent defender is pretty hax, and it's the main reason I go prot for hyjal
11:52.11AntiarcI got owned by Cheat Death in WSG the other day :(
11:52.30AntiarcI had this rogue dead to rights. He ran away, I hit deadly throw. ABSORB. And then his buddies beat me up.
11:52.36Antiarc:(
11:52.57Thelynaobviously the solution is to bring your own buddies
11:53.07AntiarcPUGgin WSG is srsly for the lose
11:53.31thulAntiarc: quite correct
11:53.34AntiarcBut, it's fun doing BGs in PVE gear, because it outgears most any PUG you run into. Cloth wearers in blues just sorta evaporate.
11:53.46thulI have started doing the funnies with shadowstep
11:53.46AntiarcSo the undergeared clothies on the other side make it tolerable.
11:53.54thuljump off ledges shadowstepping back
11:53.55thuletc
11:53.56thulyehaw
11:55.50Health"OMG lulz he jumped.."
11:56.05AntiarcI should give that a shot at Tempest Keep
11:56.12Lukianhahahah I get anywhere near the SW AH atm and I get DC'ed, due to lag.
11:56.19AntiarcThough that would require speccing Shadowstep, and then I'd feel dirty.
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11:58.51thulAntiarc: it is fun :-P
11:59.11thulesp running off a cliff, vanishing, shadowstepping back and ambushing the stupid mages :-D
12:00.11ThelynaAntiarc: have you seen the movie of the jump from TK to HFP?
12:00.35Thelynauses rocket boots and a slowfall effect and something else
12:01.57ThelynaI should try doing some bgs in my healing pve gear ... then swap to spelldamage weapon/shield
12:02.24Thelynacould probably shock a few people
12:02.33Xinhuanerr?
12:02.39Xinhuanjump from TK to HFP?
12:02.53Thelynait's on youtube, lemme see if I can dig it up
12:03.00Xinhuanoh you mean that shadowstep bug?
12:03.10Thelynahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZFNj4b8CWQ
12:03.14thulshadowstepbuff wtb tonight
12:03.17Thelynanope, straight-up jump I'm pretty sure
12:04.21Xinhuan:o
12:05.14Thelynacould probably jump from HFP to SMV as well, or something like that
12:05.20Thelynaassuming you have a festive mug
12:05.44ThelynaI'm guessing overwater fatigue would prevent you jumping from teldrassil to azuremyst or darkshore
12:05.57Thelynaer, deepwater fatigue
12:06.03LukianXinhuan, woot! Jubei finally crashed again :D
12:07.28Xinhuanheh
12:08.24LukianI was getting sick of being desync'ed after every 'trade'
12:08.29Lukianie. auction posting / mail sent.
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12:10.24Lukianhaha
12:10.31Lukianapparently instance servers are down
12:11.20Lukianhahah
12:11.25KalrothI bet Xinhuan broke it.
12:11.29LukianI just cooked an item and got dc'ed
12:11.45Lukianmaybe I should go make dinner
12:12.12Lukianhaha it crashed again
12:12.18Lukian(or they emergency downed it)
12:12.35Lukianthere's usually a bogus shutdown timer when the do the latter though
12:12.56Lukian"This realm will be shutdown in 15mins -- which suddenly changes to 5, then 2, then goes offline" :D
12:17.55thulhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hxZxVcdVgsAuqox < hybrid jack-of-all-trades build?
12:18.08HealthRealms has been really unstable the last month
12:18.14HealthAt least our battlegroup
12:19.47thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-38Y9GPLPw
12:22.08Lukianhahah peoples characters are stuck in instances! :D
12:22.15Lukianowned!
12:22.48Cammawhat realms are down US / EU?
12:23.36Fisker-O_o
12:23.44Fisker-illegal danish 2 sucked
12:23.51Fisker-sucked so much beyond comprehension
12:23.59HealthAll danes fucking suck
12:24.03Healthno shit it sucked!
12:24.09HealthRight kal?
12:24.19Fisker-fuck you
12:24.21Fisker-:D
12:24.28Healthcute
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12:25.18KalrothHealth is a wannabe dane. He's too dumb though, so he's stuck in Sweden.
12:25.33Fisker-yeah
12:25.39HealthI have to fucking work with danes
12:25.47Healthtelephone conference tomorrow.. I feel dirty
12:26.52Fisker-it's the other way around though
12:27.15HealthAll danes think male swedes are gay?
12:27.30Fisker-nah
12:27.35Fisker-all male swedes are gay
12:27.53HealthI think they impersonated a gay swedish male when they tried to
12:28.42KalrothWe know that all male swedes are gay.
12:28.50HealthTrue
12:29.11CIA-803jerry 07jerry * r57804 10Grid/Grid/GridStatusVoiceComm.lua: Grid: (branch) remove unneeded check in GridStatusVoiceComm
12:29.31HealthShadowed: MagicTrack on svn yet?
12:31.03Xinhuanit isn't on it
12:31.12Xinhuanbecause nobody has his permission to upload it there
12:31.22Xinhuanauthor's permission that is
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12:33.32Finhey er Xinhuan, what are you doing in our server channel
12:33.35Finand why aren't I an op
12:33.48Finwait, this is #wowace
12:33.51Xinhuanwhat?
12:34.11Xinhuannice fin
12:34.13HealthYou suck fin
12:34.36JoshBorke...
12:34.55FinHealth: you suck
12:35.03HealthThanks
12:35.05HealthDo I suck good?
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12:35.09Fisker-~fail Fin
12:35.10purlFin: Fail.
12:35.10DeviadHello
12:35.11Finworth the money
12:35.18DeviadCan anyone pls tell me how to lock the buttons on the petbar?
12:35.28DeviadBecause, unfortunately, bartender does not lock it.
12:35.30Xinhuaninterface options
12:35.35DeviadIs there any addon for this purpose?
12:35.35Xinhuanin default ui
12:35.43Xinhuanit says right there "lock action bars"
12:36.07DeviadOK
12:36.13DeviadI thought it didn't include the petbar
12:36.16Deviadlet's see
12:36.17Xinhuan(p.s. might nto work)
12:36.29Deviadworks, thx
12:36.29Finyeah, I'd like to be able to do that too
12:37.35Finhuh, didn't think to look there - I use the /bar lock toggle slash command in a macro all the time and it doesn't affect the pet bar, I just assumed the option hadn't been added for some reason
12:38.22nevcairielthe interface option "lock" locks the petbar
12:38.25nevcairielbartender doesnt
12:39.20FinOK, not that that makes any sense :) but I can accept that
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12:39.57nevcairielits because bartender doesnt re-create the petbar, just uses the blizzard bar
12:42.11FinI'm guessing you don't play a class with a pet much? :)
12:42.18Finit's fine, btw, I'm not complaining :)
12:42.31FinI've only just started my first character that uses the pet bar much
12:42.51Health... you have all your actions bound to the keyboard.. NOOB
12:42.53HealthCLICKER
12:43.08FinFUCKER
12:43.23HealthThanks
12:43.31HealthMe too
12:43.40Finwith Modality it's basically everything I've always ever wanted
12:43.42HealthBeen using BT since.. 2
12:43.50Healthwtf is modality?
12:43.57Fin(although, heh, the pet bar doesn't work with it :)
12:44.27Finit's an addon for BT3 that lets you specify conditions in which each bar will show up
12:44.37HealthHow fantastic
12:45.30Finactually not *everything* - of course I have wishes, but it's totally awesome and nevcairiel is great and so is Modality's author who I can't remember and I wonder if you said this sentence all at once without pausing you'd die before the end because you hadn't taken a breath
12:45.37Fin-,
12:45.50Finyep Health, it is fantastic
12:45.59HealthI had to take a breath
12:46.29nevcairielFin: actually, i play a lock, but i use my keyboard to use the pet actions, so i dont even manage to drag them off :D
12:47.18FinI've got my bars set up all nice so that some only show up if I'm in combat, some show up normally but hide if I mount up cos I don't need them, all sorts of different things
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12:47.39FinI've got one with all my pet summons on it that only shows up if I don't have a pet already
12:48.24Finnevcairiel: there's a few other minor differences I've noticed, not enough to bother saying anything before the subject came up, but they're basically the improvements over the default bars that you made :)
12:48.55nevcairielbt4 will probably have its own pet bar and not use the blizzard stuff *shrug
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12:49.16HealthYou are a pet bar!
12:49.40nevcairielyou are a pet
12:50.38SunTsunevcairiel: Great. I really would like to put macros on my pet bar, which seems to be not possible at the moment
12:50.51Finhey one thing I never quite understood, maybe you could explain - it's possible to make a bar have less buttons, right? when I first played around with BT3 I assumed that if you did that it would mean you could increase the number of buttons on another bar, but that's not the case - was it meant to be like that?
12:51.08Finor was that just a bad assumption
12:51.17nevcairielthat wont be possible with bt4 either SunTsu; petbar is only for pet spells, if you need macros, use a default bar
12:51.42SunTsunevcairiel: Well, I want to use pet macros....
12:51.50Funkeh`yo
12:52.13SunTsuJust like focus stuff with seduction
12:52.18Finoh hey! actually that's another question I had :) just a general one though, nothing really to do with BT3, and I can probably just go read the cogwheel's macro guide to find out, but: can you get pets to cast specific spells in a macro?
12:52.18nevcairielFin: it was meant to be like that. decreasing the number of buttons was only there to allow people to free some space, because empty buttons are not "click-through"
12:53.10SunTsuFin: Sure, just cast it
12:53.13Finnevcairiel: aha, OK. actually that's how I use the option, just thought the freed up buttons would be available elsewhere. I guess that would be a bit tricky to code though, hmm.
12:53.28Finwhat, I can /cast <pet's spell>?
12:53.30Finhuh
12:53.35Finsee, told you I was a pet noob
12:53.45Kalrothur noobcaek!
12:53.53Zhinjio"me" isn't a reserved word in Lua, is it?
12:54.00Zhinjiounlike "this" or what have you
12:54.27SunTsuFin: Either that or my seduction macro plainly works with magic ;)
12:54.27HealthI have that!
12:54.50Health/cast [target=player] Devour Magic
12:54.55SunTsuFin: There are lots of warlock macros on wowwiki
12:54.58FinZhinjio: no
12:55.02FinZhinjio: The following keywords are reserved and cannot be used as names:  and       break     do        else      elseif end       false     for       function  if
12:55.05Fin<PROTECTED>
12:55.08Finwhoooops
12:55.10Finsorry
12:55.11Finbut, that's the entire list
12:55.15HealthThanks Fin
12:55.37Camma/target mage
12:55.37Camma/cast Big Red Cat eat Mage
12:56.10FinSunTsu: guess I should go look... I like to try and work out macros myself rather than use cookbook recipes though, otherwise when I want to change them I don't know how - but thanks, I should go check anyway
12:56.42SunTsuFin: I normally use them as an inspiration for my own macros
12:57.01Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
12:57.17Finwoo
12:57.20nevcairielsee Funkeh`, i told ya it would be released
12:57.22Fincheers Funkeh`
12:57.54nevcairielwtb torrent
12:59.25HealthYou are an old torrent
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12:59.37Finyour MUM
12:59.40HealthThanks
12:59.44Health~seen sole
12:59.46purlsole <n=chatzill@118-92-14-211.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 11h 47m 48s ago, saying: 'anybody else not like the fact that all the libraries are seperate addons now =\'.
12:59.49FinKalroth: your MUM also
12:59.51HealthSLACKER
13:00.05ZhinjioThanks Fin
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13:17.54Funkeh`torrent up
13:19.00Fisker-lulz
13:19.06Fisker-who'd want to watch illegal danish 2
13:19.07Fisker-it sucked
13:19.08Fisker-horribly
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13:19.45nevcairielyou suck horribly
13:19.59Fisker-yeah but the movie still sucks more
13:20.18Tinyboomi found it funny:D
13:20.27Tinyboom~lart Fisker-
13:20.27purlfrags Fisker- with his BFG9000
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13:21.02Fisker-It had some funnies
13:21.29Fisker-But it felt like watching an episode of america's funniest home videos
13:21.30Fisker-except
13:21.32Fisker-not that funny
13:21.52Fisker-well thoe home videos are NEVER funny anyways
13:21.59Fisker-so i guess it felt exactly like that
13:22.01Fisker-:D
13:22.48Chomperswhat did you watch?
13:22.59Fisker-illegal danish 2
13:23.36Chompersoooh
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13:25.04Finhooray, I have enough netherweave to respec to tailoring
13:25.04Finwoo
13:25.48Healthk
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13:49.16Findo Sporeling Snacks work on warlock minions?
13:49.31nevcairielnop
13:49.37Finbottom holes
13:49.40nevcairielonly huntards
13:50.53SunTsuSporling snacks are a great fun. "I just fed the whole stack to my pet, that damn stuff has no effect" "Tried eating it yourself instead" "D'Oh!"
13:51.22Finhaha
13:55.07Fin(+e)
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14:34.37chexsumpreparation outside of a bg is fun
14:34.51chexsumi think a gm has fixed us though
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14:52.36UhuruHi, is rabbit here ?
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14:57.09Fisker-not at the moment Uhuru
14:57.50what-Khi all i look for an alternative for DamageMeter has someone a tipp ?
14:58.15SunTsuwhat-K: recount
14:58.17capullorecount, assessement, recap, swstats
14:58.46what-Kthx and what will u use
14:58.52capullorecount
14:58.55what-Kwhats the best ?
14:59.20exor674recount! it has pie charts!
14:59.23OsstiaRecount is the most comprehensive I think
14:59.25exor674everyone loves a good pie chart
14:59.33capulloput the best features from all addon into on and this will be the best :P
14:59.33OsstiaI used to use swstats
14:59.40Finso, is it possible to get WoW to use British English?
15:00.50capulloi miss sessions from the previous fights in recount
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15:02.39LukianFin, lol being anal? :D
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15:06.17what-Khas recount a button on the minimap ?
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15:07.47kneekihey all
15:12.53Uhuruwhat-K Violation is good too
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15:14.55SunTsuwhat-K: Basically it comes down to: "Check them out an use what suits you best"
15:15.03what-Kthx
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15:32.07kenlyricanyone have a clue which mod is adding >kenlyric: 1 (Bag 1) and vendor sale prices to my tooltip. it's not itempricetooltip (that's doing it too)
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15:35.42kenlyricarkinventory... must have added the feature recently.
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16:48.08CIA-803kneeki * r57808 10EasyPet/ (EasyPet.lua EasyPet.toc Frames.lua Globals.lua):
16:48.08CIA-8EasyPet:
16:48.08CIA-8- Added a 'read me' to the /easypet menu, & fixed the mouse hover during death error.
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16:57.17CIA-803xinhuan * r57809 10BankItems/ (6 files):
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16:57.17CIA-8- Fixed missing localization string BANKITEMS_GBANK_TEXT in zhCN and zhTW.
16:57.18CIA-8- Added a button to open BIGB in BankItems.
16:57.18CIA-8- Increment version to 23002 for release to UI sites.
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17:01.32MrCrispyanyone a prot warrior ?
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17:02.50SunTsuMrCrispy: Maybe you'll get more answers if you'd just ask what you want to ask. Or do you expect 200 guys to say yes or no to that question?
17:03.37MrCrispylol sorry i dont really have a questions persay I just wanted to compare talents
17:04.43MrCrispyI took a year off got burned out and am just now getting back into it
17:08.21Codayushttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0cZVxZ0EpoIMz0est
17:08.58kergothrofl, today's penny-arcade is great (and the previous one)
17:09.03CodayusGeneral purpose build.  Points in imp TC and imp demo shout could be removed if you can rely on an OT being around to do it.
17:09.45MrCrispygroovy man ty soo much thats exactly what i needed
17:09.47Fisker-no
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17:10.04Fisker-today's penny arcade is plagarism
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17:11.47ChompersFisker- link
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17:12.03Fisker-http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
17:12.53MrCrispyshouldnt i have points in sheild mastery as well though?
17:13.49Amadeoit's a true comic
17:13.54AmadeoThat's why I'd never get a FigurePrint
17:14.20CodayusProbably, but it's not an amazing talent.  It adds a minor bit of mitigation but no threat gen.  Depending on your taste, your guild, your role, and where your raiding...sure?
17:14.41AmadeoGood idea for a company though...they probably know nobody will print out lame looking characters, and since most of the high end gear shares the same textures, they hardly have to modify anything to make them :P
17:14.53Fisker-http://wow.mmolecule.com/news/news.mmo?id=bd30ff82-f1ce-4986-ac11-1447df561c9b
17:15.23MrCrispythat makes sense weve just started doing kara
17:15.48MrCrispyalso whats an amazing talent? never heard of that
17:16.21AmadeoFisker-: I'm sure everyone's thought of it one time or another, I can't imagine they're stealing stuff
17:16.36CodayusAmazing talents would be Devestate, Vitality, Focused Rage, Imp Shield Block, Defiance?
17:16.59MrCrispyah
17:17.37MrCrispyi have a probelm with my intercept also not sure what im doin wrong there
17:18.09CodayusHere, more info than you'd ever want on prot warriors:  http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18771-protection_warrior/
17:18.24MrCrispygracias
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17:19.36LukianMrCrispy, I got an intercept the other day, but someone else aggroed the mob before it hit me :D
17:20.42MrCrispyits just difficult for me to do
17:21.08MrCrispyi play with my left and I used to be right handed
17:21.25MrCrispythe right hand has nerved damage and i cant use it that well
17:22.50MrCrispyso anytime i find a way to make the game easier i jump on it
17:23.45Lukiankeybind it
17:23.49Xinhuan~seen kagaro
17:23.51purlkagaro <n=sals@12.38.10.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20d 1h 47m 11s ago, saying: 'morning'.
17:23.54Lukianto each party target
17:24.12Lukianor something ^_^
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17:36.47Elsiahmm that'd be an addon idea: have an aggro monitor propagate targets to the MT somehow
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17:49.28kagaroafternoon
17:49.54kagaroXinhuan you were looking for me?
17:50.44Xinhuanoh hey
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17:51.07Xinhuanyou accepting PMs?
17:51.13kagaroshould be
17:51.36kagarojust re-installed colloquy on my laptop
17:57.36Chompers[RDKP04][24:1/1:CHARS Kirous!Kirous!10/27/07 18:09:48!SHOW][GUILD][Bananass]
17:57.51Chompersdoes anyone know what addon pastes that into the guild addon channel?
17:58.10Lukian[RDKP04]
17:59.12Chompersit's endless spam all the time
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18:00.34MrCrispyregister to pm?
18:01.17JamieHangoveroh, I gotta do that.
18:01.37MrCrispyhow do we register?
18:01.54JamieHangoverno clue at all.
18:01.58kergoth<PROTECTED>
18:02.04MrCrispyits diff everywhere
18:02.08MrCrispythanks boss
18:03.10JamieHangoverI think I regged.
18:03.46MrCrispyi think im medicated
18:04.07JamieHangoverI know you are.  I am going to crack open a beer and start medicating too.
18:04.22MrCrispyk got it lol
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18:11.20bigzeroanyone know where those demons are that are always banished by the dark portal?
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18:16.24Xinhuanhuh
18:17.38MoonWolf??
18:17.42bigzerothe guys that get banished at 1%
18:17.49bigzeroto lvl weapon skil
18:18.04bigzeroi can't find them and I have no clue what they're called
18:18.12MoonWolfstopped existing.
18:18.29bigzerothey were there yesterday...
18:19.31bigzerofound them
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18:20.25Xinhuanlol
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18:23.11Josh_Borkebigzero: they walk around in the blasted lands, no?
18:23.20Industrialservant of blah
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18:29.57OsstiaI like the dude in shadow moon now
18:30.12Osstiaas long as you can kill the air elementals, he works well
18:31.23deltronair elementals suck
18:31.24deltronfor me
18:31.31deltronsame with those elite trees in skettis
18:32.17EllipsisI love those trees
18:32.20Ellipsisthey're so fun
18:34.53AmadeoDid Night Elves turn into the ideal PvPriest now due to the racial spell buffs?
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18:37.07CodayusNot sure about ideal.  But they're certainly decent.
18:37.23CodayusThe FW replacement spell Dwarves and Draenei got is good too though.
18:37.50Osstiaand berserking + curse of shit still sucks ass for my troll
18:38.09Osstiaone day blizzard is going to fix my spine so i stand up straight and give me a decent racial
18:40.13Josh_Borkeyou mean humanoid
18:40.20Josh_Borkeerm, human
18:40.28Codayus?
18:40.39Josh_Borkewasn't it humans and dwarves?
18:40.45Josh_Borkeno, it makes more sense to be drainei
18:40.48Osstiano dranai and dwarves
18:40.49Josh_Borkedon't mind me, i'm just stupid
18:40.50CodayusJosh_Borke: No.
18:40.53CodayusHeh
18:41.41kagaroAmmo you around?
18:42.01kagaronevcairiel you around?
18:42.11nevcairiel?
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18:42.27kagaroyou open for a pm nev?
18:43.38HjalteThis is odd. My game is starting to freeze for a few seconds when doing anything that has to do with ITEMS :\
18:44.17Josh_Borke~hug DarkImakuni
18:44.18purlACTION jumps into DarkImakuni's lap and huggles and *hugs* DarkImakuni
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18:44.41DarkImakunicheers Josh *shoves purl off his lap*
18:45.21EllipsisHjalte: you mean when your inventory changes?
18:46.09HjalteEllipsis: No, it's rather weird. For example when i mouseover an item link in the chat it sometimes freezes. And just now, when I went to repair, when i talked to the repair-man the game froze too.
18:46.32Ellipsiswhat addons do you have that modify your item tooltips?
18:47.13HjalteRatingbuster, KC_Items and TekKompare for showing me links in the chat on mouseover
18:47.21Hjalteand Mendeleev
18:47.36Ellipsisall up-to-date?
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18:48.04HjalteI'm using WAU, but havent checked for new update to tekkompare. I just found out however, that my durabilityfu is broken somehow.
18:48.36Silowyithis hunter friend of mine
18:48.40Silowyihas good res gear
18:48.50Silowyibut is completely unable to solo anyone 1v1
18:49.03Silowyiwhich means in 2v2, as a resto druid, it is very annoying to play with him :P
18:50.42AmadeoDoes he use keybinds and mouselook?
18:51.00alextHjalte: KC_Items still does that to me which is why i still have it disabled
18:51.02Silowyiwell like
18:51.05Silowyifor example, just now
18:51.12alexthappens mostly in my bank and my own bags when i mouseover certain items
18:51.22Silowyia warrior took him from 100 to 0, while he was out of line of sight of me
18:51.26Hjaltealext: I've been using it for a while, but only just now been having this problem :(
18:51.43alextI only had the issue about 1-2 months ago and it was KC_Items after patch 2.2
18:51.44Silowyicause he was going around the pillar in miraculously exactly the opposite way I was, every time
18:51.46alextsomethin like that
18:51.58Silowyiso I couldn't heal him
18:52.00alexttry disabling KC_Items for the hell of it and see if that fixes the issue for you
18:52.14Hjaltealext: I'm trying, I don't want hiccups in the raid :)
18:52.17Silowyibut the big thing is he only took the warrior from 100 to about 80%, and there was no other healer
18:52.45AmadeoSilowyi: Maybe just work on communication/teamwork so he won't do that
18:52.57Silowyihe doesn't have a mic
18:53.05Silowyiwhich is a huge problem
18:53.07Amadeodo you have one? at least you can bark orders!
18:53.12Silowyiyeah
18:53.13AmadeoMORE SHOTS!
18:53.49kagarohey nev, i need to talk with you for a few minutes
18:54.23kagaror/nev/nevcairiel/
18:54.51kagaronevcairiel got a min to pm with me
18:55.24AmadeoHm, that's wild..they're bringing Skype to the PSP
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18:55.45nevcairielkagaro: sure, but i'm raiding, so excue me if i dont respond instantly :P
18:56.02kagarogotcha
18:59.40CheadsSpeedball 2 Retail is now activated whoho =)
18:59.55Silowyithere's a fucking fire mage and he goes after the fucking paladin
18:59.57Silowyiwtf
19:00.40Silowyisure enough gets pom pyroed for 5k+
19:00.45Silowyihots ain't gonna cure that
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19:16.46Silowyigarrrrrrrgh
19:16.53Silowyiso I'm kiting this rogue around
19:16.57Silowyitelling my hunter to get on him
19:17.05Silowyithe rogue manages to get out of combat
19:17.07Silowyimount
19:17.12Silowyichase me down and stunlock me
19:17.21Silowyiwtf is that
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19:18.54Osstiahahahaha
19:19.08Osstiacoming from a struggling arena player, thats funny
19:19.24SilowyiI'm struggling right now
19:19.27OsstiaI am not very good.  I am a greeat PVE'er, but in arenas i struggle
19:19.27Silowyimy hunter is hideous :/
19:19.35Osstiabut I have fun
19:19.55Osstiaand I am finally getting some gear so it might get better
19:20.02OsstiaI will hit 300 resil tonight
19:20.23OsstiaWhat class are you Silowyi?
19:20.27Silowyiresto druid
19:20.30Osstiaahh, nice
19:20.36OsstiaI am a disc/holy priest
19:20.45Osstiaand I pla with a rogue partner
19:21.14OsstiaWhat battle group?
19:24.16SilowyiRampage
19:24.23Silowyitough battlegroup this season
19:24.29Silowyilast season it was a pretty easy one
19:24.56Silowyithis season we got a lot of people mixin' it up in full T6, or close to full T3 because they had T6 last season :P
19:25.23SilowyiIn the 1600 bracket we've encountered teams with T3 weapons already
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19:25.32whizterhi
19:25.33Silowyicourse some of them probably smurfed
19:26.17whiztercan someone tell me how to disable the fading of pitbull unitframes when out of combat? i can't find the option. I want them always at 100%
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19:27.20kagaroayone here an engineer with mote extractor?
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19:30.23Xueriankagaro: Yea
19:30.38kagarocould you do me a favor?
19:30.43Xuerianwhizter: Disable combat fader module, range check module. both fade the frame
19:30.54Xueriankagaro: Unless it involves logging on.
19:30.59kagaronext time your out using the mote extractor could you see what events get fired
19:32.08whizterXuerian, ok thx
19:32.29Xueriankagaro: Sorry, no-can-do. Currently in a "Mysteriously vanished" state on that server.
19:32.45kagarokk
19:33.18Xinhuanlol vanished state
19:33.26Xinhuanraid dodging?
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19:38.33XuerianXinhuan: Nah, just got bored of the char (again)
19:39.58Silowyiresto druid, mm hunter just doesn't work, at least not when the mm hunter can't kill crap
19:40.15Silowyiwe lost to a prot warrior boomkin team after a 15 minute fight
19:41.14mortLOL
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19:41.43SilowyiI know right?
19:41.45Silowyiwtf is he doing
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19:42.38mortdrain the moonkin, nuke it. done
19:43.06Pkekyo|yay, just got my 3color desert BDU :)
19:45.05what-Kcan someone plz help me wizh a ms template ?
19:45.07Stan_http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw <. olol
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19:46.19dylanmwhat-K: ms template?
19:46.25Silowyiwow we beat a team
19:46.26Silowyithey
19:46.51Silowyiwere RPing
19:46.54what-Kdylanm mom
19:46.58Silowyiall their abilities had macros
19:46.59what-Kmy eng is not so good
19:47.01Silowyilike
19:47.14dylanmwhat-K: I just don't know what that is.
19:47.17SilowyiHolyguardian shouts to his teammates to attack
19:47.24dylanmNice.
19:47.30SilowyiHolyguardian heals his teammate.
19:48.10what-Kdylanm look plz
19:48.11what-Khttp://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?050050203520105200212000550003500501000000000200000000000000000000
19:48.15mortdamn rp servers *g*
19:48.16dylanmThat last one seems unnecessary.
19:48.37dylanmOhhh a mortal strike build
19:50.09morti need better pvpgear for my druid :(
19:50.10what-Kcan u help me too make it better
19:50.10Pkekyo|Stan_: lmfao, who comes up with this shit?
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19:51.21Chompersis that for pvp or what?
19:52.26Pkekyo|bloody better be :p
19:53.01what-KChompers ye
19:53.20Stan_Pkekyo|: dunno^^
19:54.40bigzerois there an addon that prevents you from logging out after being afk for a long time?
19:54.57Chomperslike in av!
19:55.16bigzerowell...potentially, i was going to use it for something else
19:55.45dylanmAnger Management seems like a no-brainer
19:56.46what-KChompers yes
19:56.58dylanmImp. slam, Flurry... that's all good stuff
19:57.12bigzerokinda odd if there isn't one...I might write one up, have a 1-liner so far, but it's a little chatty
19:59.16bigzerodurcyn, ping
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20:00.01durcynbigzero: hrm?
20:00.54bigzerowere you testing glowfosho last night by any chance?
20:00.55durcynloaded fine after the locale director was committed
20:00.55durcyndirectory*
20:00.55bigzerogreat
20:00.55bigzerothanks
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20:13.52kagaronevcairiel you still in a raid?
20:14.00nevcairielyeah
20:14.15nevcairielbut thrash right now, so if it doesnt take too long :P
20:14.27kagarosee my pm ?
20:14.29nevcairiel*trash o.O
20:14.30nevcairielno
20:14.35nevcairielare you registered?
20:14.50kagaroi am but forgot my password :(
20:15.17nevcairielcant send pms when not being registered ^^
20:22.18Xinhuannevcairiel, you can fix that by sending Kagaro a pm first ;p
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20:26.52Fisker-so nevcairiel
20:26.54Fisker-i was right
20:26.55Fisker-RIGHT
20:27.06nevcairielyou're always..
20:27.08nevcairielwrong!
20:27.25Fisker-NO
20:27.46Fisker-you can't stop me
20:28.55Lukian<nevcairiel> cant send pms <- being able to send PMS would be great :D
20:29.14Xinhuanorly
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20:34.01KagaroAmmo you around?
20:34.28[Ammo]yes
20:34.37Kagaroyou got a min for a pm?
20:34.59[Ammo]sure
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20:39.25else_whereis there any "trick" to get the waterfall to accept mouse buttons as keybinds using the "text" type? or should i make a custom config screen if i really needed that functionality?(i dont realy, just bugging me that i cant)
20:40.34[Ammo]use the 'keybinding' aceoptions type
20:41.05else_wherei did, but waterfall overrides the capturing of the mouse click as a binding and uses it to dismiss the grabing of one
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20:44.17else_whereyou could always *ick* auto-generate them Lukian
20:44.41else_wherelol, worked wonderfully for AceEvents =)
20:44.53Lukianelse_where, how would I go about that?
20:45.08LukianI'm guessing it'd give latest revision and a basic description
20:45.14Lukianand I'd just need to tack in a screenshot?
20:45.52else_wherethere's instructions on the wiki somewhere, in the adding pages section i believe
20:46.06bigzerodescription could get pulled out of toc..same for author and latest version. There's no use generating api
20:46.47else_wherehttp://wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format
20:48.00else_whererequires you addons to be in the svn... my dev request email will get answered someday, lol. till then i just code for friends and guildies
20:50.10bigzeroidk if autogenerated addon pages will really be that useful. You can see the short descriptiotn already on files.wowace.com and in WAU
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20:54.55Lukianhmm the infobox works alright
20:55.19Lukianpity there's not a standard screenshot filename authors could upload with their addon
20:59.13OsstiaXinhuan are you around?
20:59.28else_wherethat'd just be space taken up on the svn, since you can add images with wikicode to pull off a remotehost
20:59.31Xinhuanyes
20:59.51Lukianelse_where, true
21:00.26LukianOk I'm going to do through and add infoboxes for all missing addons
21:00.28Lukianhttp://wowace.com/wiki/Hourglass
21:00.35Lukian^ just did that one, anything else I should include?
21:01.07OsstiaI am reading you BankItems, I am trying to use the ItemButtonTemplate for an addon I am working on, I notice you sue it as well.  I can't drag/drop items into my buttons.  I am not seeing where you handle that.  Do you have any pointers on where I can read up on this?
21:01.21else_whereedits havent commited yet, still showing unclaimed
21:01.27bigzeroLukian, author email? would that be included if it exists in the toc?
21:01.35Lukianelse_where, well it is unclaimed
21:01.46Xinhuanbankitems doesn't have ny drag-drop functionality for any of its buttons
21:01.50Xinhuanhence you don't see anything
21:01.51Lukian"These addon or library pages are not maintained by the real author."
21:02.04LukianI'm not the real author
21:02.12Xinhuanall the buttons you see are static buttons that display recorded info
21:02.17Xinhuanthere's nothing you can drop on them ;p
21:02.21Osstiathat makes sense
21:02.32Osstiayou build them, then pull the data from the bank and just display
21:02.43OsstiaOkay, then I am sorry to have pestered ya ;)
21:03.15Xinhuanhehe
21:03.38Xinhuanmost drag/drop code don't really drag/drop anything
21:03.45Xinhuanthey are just "picking up" the item
21:03.51Xinhuanin a OnDragStart code
21:04.09bigzeroLukian, did you see my comment?
21:04.19OsstiaI just want to take an item from my bag, drop it onto a button, and then get information from the items that end up in the buttons
21:04.33Lukianis there anyway to avoid the captcha ?
21:04.36else_whereLukian, ah got ya, thought you meant you did up a full page =) how is hourglass? i'm still sticking with chronometer(outdated addon my ass :P)
21:04.37OsstiaI'm not seeing any addons that do it, but still looking
21:04.43Lukian(ie. get an exlusion for my IP)
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21:05.03Lukianelse_where, hmm no idea, it was mentioned elsewhere, so I thought I'd create the page, try it and submit a screenshot
21:06.03XinhuanOsstia
21:06.04Xinhuan<OnReceiveDrag>
21:06.10CIA-803ammo 07Ace3 * r57810 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: GetInboxText() causes a mail item to become read, work around that while still getting the sale pending totals.
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21:06.37Xinhuanyour button needs a <OnReceiveDrag> receive handler, which checks the cursor's item GetCursorItem()
21:06.44LukianI wonder if I can write a bot for this :p
21:07.02Xinhuanthen you of course need to "drop" the item on the cursor to do nothing to that item
21:07.34Osstiathanks for the tip.  plenty of fodder for google now
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21:12.13Xinhuan~dict bloat
21:12.28Xinhuan~dict 1 bloat
21:13.16else_whereitemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount,
21:13.17else_whereitemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID
21:13.18else_whereitemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount,
21:13.19else_whereitemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID
21:13.40else_whereoops, sorry, bad paste
21:13.42else_wherelol
21:14.07else_wherebut those r the basics Osstia =)
21:15.55Osstiahaha
21:16.12else_where<OnRecieveDrag>if CursorHasItem() then local infoType, info1, info2 = GetCursorInfo() DoSomething(info1) end</OnRecieveDrag>
21:16.44OsstiaI assume I'd want a ClearCursor() in there too so it gets dropped right?
21:17.40else_wherecorrect
21:18.23else_wherethe GetItemInfo( gets you all you need as far textures and link and such
21:19.11CIA-803kemayo * r57811 10InBank/InBank.toc: InBank: Add context for Cide, the killjoy.
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21:20.28Pkekyo|how long does VISA give you to pay up? :p
21:20.46FtH|Daemonaanybody knows a jewelcrafting addon that offers the following features: 1. Right-Click on a Gem will show all cuts i can do from that gem 2. Clicking on a Cut in the that way created drop down will cut the gem when the jewelcrafting window is open.
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21:21.58Xinhuani don't know of any such addon that does what you say
21:22.02else_whereNot that i know of Daemona, but i started using Skillet and havent looked back since
21:22.06Xinhuanbut you can try out my addon called GemHelper
21:22.14Xinhuanwhich is a specialized UI for JCs
21:22.31Xinhuanand overrides Skillet (and works with Skillet/ATSW)
21:22.55Xinhuanyou can find it on wowace, or see a screenshot in wowinterface
21:22.59FtH|Daemonanaah i am asking for THAT special feature
21:23.02else_wheredoes it? so many addons to install, so little time to actually play
21:23.07FtH|Daemonacause our guild jewelcrafters are whining again
21:23.21FtH|Daemonahaving to cut tons of gems after a bt loot run
21:23.24FtH|Daemonafor new gear
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21:23.32Xinhuanthen they should just use GemHelper
21:23.36Xinhuanits a specialized UI for JCs
21:23.40FtH|Daemonak
21:23.51Xinhuanthat only shows what they can cut
21:23.59Xinhuanwithout having to scroll thru 300 gem cuts
21:24.09else_wherei'd like to see an addon that adds tooltip info for raw gems, that lists cuts you can make weith that gem
21:24.15Lukianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AutomaticLFG
21:24.25bigzeroXinhuan, you mean what they have mats for?
21:24.29Xinhuanyep
21:24.40bigzerohow is that different from default ui?
21:24.41Xinhuanit has a bit more than that, including search, filter options
21:25.10Xinhuanits just different hehe
21:25.13bigzerolol
21:25.44else_whereLukian, lolz @ do not add to WoWUI
21:26.29Lukianevery addon starting with 'A' now has an infobox :D
21:26.37Osstiaelse_where that would be a nice feature
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21:27.11FtH|Daemonawell Xinhuan i guess i am just think in rogue terms where there was an addon where you just right-click on a lock-box and unlock it, they are kinda asking for a drop-down opening from rightclicking gems and showing possible cuts which will be cut when clicked on.
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21:27.29bigzeroLukian, lies...http://wowace.com/wiki/AutoProfitX
21:27.44Lukianoops missed one
21:28.16Xinhuanits annoying to write such an addon, because you need to create a securebutton for each spell
21:28.26Xinhuanever since patch 2.0 that is
21:28.32Xinhuanas all spellcasts must be secure
21:28.52FtH|Daemonanontheless would be a kickass addon ;)
21:29.04Xinhuanmaybe so
21:29.06FtH|Daemonacan't you run some recursion over it?
21:29.12Josh_BorkeXinhuan: just put a disclaimer that it won't run in combat
21:29.19Josh_BorkeXinhuan: hiude the gui in combat
21:29.26Josh_Borkeproblem solved
21:29.35Xinhuanits doable, but 1. it won't run in combat 2. its not a 1 hour addon ;d
21:29.41bigzeroLukian, so I take there's no way to add author email to that?
21:29.46FtH|Daemonawho cuts gems in combat? ,)
21:29.48Xinhuanthe idea has been around for months
21:29.56Xinhuanyou're not the first to suggest it
21:30.00Xinhuanbut nobody has actually bothered
21:30.08Lukianbigzero, the template would have to be edited
21:30.45Lukianbigzero, all authors should have their own page with contact details.
21:30.52Lukian(if they wish to be contacted)
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21:31.01Xinhuanbecause you need to first scan your recipes to see what you have, check the itemtype, find the matching enchants, generate the menu, make securebuttons for each one, etc
21:31.06Xinhuanand then make it work on 7 languages ;d
21:31.32bigzeroplus Xinhuan is lazy...so there
21:31.37Xinhuanindeed
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21:32.01elsexwherethat was fun, guess someone else owns the name else_where, lol
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21:32.17Xinhuaninfo.text= ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, WoWEquip_TalentData2[v.id].maxrank)..v.t
21:32.28XinhuanWoWEquip\WoWEquip.lua:1384: unexpected symbol near ':'
21:32.34FtH|Daemonawell make it work in 7 languages... thats what babble is for? ;)
21:32.35Xinhuanwhat am i missing in that line
21:32.45Xinhuanbabble doesn't include enchants
21:32.49Xinhuannot even talents
21:33.02elsexwhereso where was i? oh yeah, tooltips for mats that tell you your know reciepes associated with that mat
21:33.11bigzeroXinhuan, closing parent
21:33.21elsexwhereguess i'll get on that
21:33.34Xinhuani count an equal number of open/close paren?
21:33.39bigzeroXinhuan, nah, nvm
21:33.53FtH|Daemonanot quite tooltip but there is an addon that lets you whisper !craft <reagent> and tells you what item includes that reagent, works for gems, leatherworking, enchanting etc
21:33.57FtH|Daemonagimme a sec.
21:34.07Xinhuanthat addon is called CraftList1
21:34.09Xinhuanthat addon is called CraftList2
21:34.14bigzero("(%d/%d) "):format(   what is that supposed to mean anyway?
21:34.23FtH|DaemonaCraftlist2 exactly
21:34.34Xinhuanit takes a string and applies format() on it
21:34.49bigzeroyou can do it that way?
21:34.49Lukianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/BananaBar2
21:34.53Lukianawesome version number
21:34.54Xinhuan"(%d/%d) " is that string
21:34.58bigzerostring.format(string, format)
21:35.02elsexwherewould be nice to get that info in the tooltip, for tradechannel links and such
21:35.09Xinhuanyes, but string:format() works too
21:35.24Xinhuanand is faster since string metatable lookup is faster
21:35.27CIA-803ammo 07Ace3 * r57812 10AnalogClock/ (AnalogClock.lua AnalogClock.toc): AnalogClock: saner default size and movable with alt-drag
21:35.41Lukianwowace makes me do maths ><
21:35.46bigzerolua> ("i%d"):format(0)
21:35.53Lukianno maths before 9am, please.
21:36.14bigzeroumm, what's the syntax for lua thing again?
21:36.22Xinhuanthe bot isn't in this channel
21:36.26Xinhuanbeg cladhaire to bring it back
21:36.29Lukianmsg it directly
21:36.40cladhairei meant to bring it back yesterday
21:36.43cladhaireapparently i got distracted :P
21:36.47Xinhuan:(
21:37.08bigzerowhat's the name of the bot?
21:37.24Shirikbigzero: Do I have to hurt you?
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21:37.30bigzeroyes
21:37.35Xinhuanthere it is
21:37.37bigzeroyay
21:37.40cladhairelua> print("Hello Everybody!")
21:37.41ShirikOh so that was cladhaire ok
21:37.42lua_botcladhaire: Hello Everybody!
21:37.50bigzerolua> print(("i%d"):format(0))
21:37.50lua_botbigzero: i0
21:37.52Pkekyo|christ...some old drunk tosser on the bus started tossing off, trying to spray down the driver O.o
21:37.54ShirikI assumed you decided to go ahead and run some random string that would kill the server
21:37.59Shiriks/server/bot/
21:38.06cladhairephyber: yikes
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21:38.42Xinhuanlua> ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, 5)
21:38.42lua_botXinhuan: (0/5) ,
21:39.13bigzero= ("(%d/%d) "):format(0,9).."hi"
21:39.20bigzerolua> print(("(%d/%d) "):format(0,9).."hi")
21:39.20lua_botbigzero: (0/9) hi
21:39.27Shirikthat's bad
21:39.30Shirikbetter is
21:39.44Shiriklua> print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi")
21:39.44lua_botShirik: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi")"]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>'
21:39.46Shiriklua> print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi"))
21:39.47lua_botShirik: (0/9) hi
21:40.11bigzeroblame Xinhuan
21:40.17elsexwhereis there an ace mod that shows co-op healing bars with %/raw overheal amounts? It still sickens me how much time i put into Genesis and Heart to have 2.0 kill them =( i'd like to salvage something from them
21:40.18bigzerohe came up with it
21:40.26Xinhuani was just wondering why lua spit an error for
21:40.26Xinhuaninfo.text= ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, WoWEquip_TalentData2[v.id].maxrank)..v.t
21:40.31Shirikno he didn't
21:40.35Shirikhe gave you the format
21:40.40Shirikyou're the one who concatenated the "hi"
21:40.54Dezzimalhow would you create a macro that spell locks your focus target only if you have a focus target
21:40.59Dezzimalelse spell lock current target
21:41.12ShirikDezzimal: [focus,exists]
21:41.20Dezzimal/cast [target=focus, exists] Spell Lock(Rank 2); /cast Spell Lock(Rank 2)
21:41.22Dezzimal?
21:41.32Shirikyes
21:41.45Hey-WTF/cast [target=focus,exists,harm] [target=target,exists,harm] [] Spell Lock
21:41.48elsexwheremay want a harm in there to avoid invalid target
21:41.59elsexwherewhat Hey sed =)
21:42.05Dezzimalwhats that last [] for
21:42.06Thelynaer yeah, my locution was a bit obfuscated
21:42.07Dezzimalseems useless
21:42.32bigzeroShirik, I did no such thing...just followed his layout :-P
21:42.33ShirikThelyna: That is so beyond redundant
21:42.34Thelynameans if nothing else ... actually I dunno if it works for pet spells, but if nothing else you could mouseover spell lock
21:42.35Shirikthat is not even funny
21:43.13Xinhuanlua> v = {} v.t = "abc" print( ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, 5)..v.t )
21:43.13lua_botXinhuan: (0/5) abc
21:43.15Shirik[target=focus,exists,harm] : harm implies exists. [target=target,exists,harm]: harm implies exist and target=target is worthless. []: Makes the conditional before that worthless.
21:43.16Xinhuano_O
21:43.27Shirikwhy have [target=target,exists,harm] if you're just going to follow it with [] ?
21:43.49Thelynayeah I realised it was horrid after I posted it
21:43.54bigzeroXinhuan, reload wow ui?
21:44.06Shirikso in short, the simpler version would be /cast [target=focus,harm] [harm] Spell Lock
21:44.28Dezzimalk afk getting 2200 rating with my druid partner
21:44.30Dezzimalin full s1
21:44.35Shirikthough I tend to prefer /cast [target=focus,harm] [] Spell Lock so that if you don't have a valid target on either side, it gives you an error rather than nothing
21:47.08Xinhuani would add a "nodead" condition
21:47.18Xinhuanbecause i don't want to try to cast on a dead focus target
21:47.59Thelynawouldn't you shift to a focus that's alive soon though?
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21:48.14Xinhuanyou assume that you have such a macro
21:48.33Xinhuanyou still have to manually change your focus
21:48.39Xinhuanvia another macro or otherwise
21:48.48Lukianall addons starting with 'B' should be done @ bigzero
21:48.48Xinhuanso adding the "nodead" is good
21:49.42Xinhuanmy macro looks like this
21:49.53Xinhuan#showtooltip /stopcasting /cast [mod:alt] [target=focus,harm,nodead] [harm,nodead] [target=targettarget,harm,nodead] [] Counterspell
21:49.57Xinhuanand i don't think you can shorten it :D
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21:55.49Soleis there some trick people are using to hide their armory info?
21:55.57Xinhuanno
21:56.02Solegetting a lot of "Character data awaiting refresh"
21:56.03Xinhuanthere is no way to hide info
21:56.10Xinhuanthat's an armory issue
21:56.12Soleso teh armory is just bugged?
21:56.15Sole=\
21:56.15Xinhuanindeed
21:56.34Lukianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SEasyRotation :D
21:57.13Solenow that is a cool idea
21:57.28Solesorren that sneaky devil
21:58.30elsexwherenerf arcane shot. hunters are OP
21:58.34elsexwhere=P
21:58.59vithosSEasyRotation is really cool
22:00.20elsexwherei take it that each section of the bar indicates the next shot and it's castingtime/cooldown/gcd?
22:00.42Lukianbottom is autoshot, next up is steady, arcane, multi.
22:01.03Lukianoops
22:01.09Lukianswap auto and steady :D
22:01.14elsexwhereit looks like a sequencer track =)
22:01.32Elsiamakes sense, playing a hunter is like guitar hero ;)
22:01.46Josh_Borkeso's shadow priest
22:01.52Josh_Borkeand so is mage
22:01.55Josh_Borkei'm starting to see a trend
22:02.14elsexwherestill, they cant faceroll liek a warlock
22:02.15Elsiawell mages don't lose damage by clipping wanding I think
22:02.40Dezzimalwhat?
22:02.43Dezzimalthey definitely do
22:02.47Elsiahehe
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22:03.40Josh_Borkedkp sucks
22:03.56elsexwhere50 DKP MINUS!!!
22:04.18kenlyricElsia: playing a hunter is like playing guitar hero with one button.
22:04.43kenlyricexcellently timed steady/KC macro.
22:04.57elsexwherelol, castsequence ftwtfpwn
22:05.16bigzeroplaying a mage is like playing whack-a-mole...with one mole
22:05.47bigzerowell, an occasional 2nd
22:06.02Elsiakinda true, only way to not lose your mind in a 10 minute boss fight :D
22:06.24XuerianGood lord. 71280 views on Escape from Org in one day
22:06.38bigzeroEscape from Org?
22:06.46Elsiacame out yesterday
22:07.06Elsiahttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=57079&mirror=1
22:07.09Xuerianlast night 0_o
22:07.36Fisker-it sucks
22:07.56elsexwherehmmm, mod idea. estimated dps(possibly taking into account target debuffs/buff/mitigation) of a castsequence with a action button text(like DrDamage)
22:08.45Elsiahaste screws it up
22:08.48Fisker-I SAID IT SUCKS
22:08.53Lukianhow do I right align with wiki code?
22:08.53Fisker-WORSHIP ME AS THE GOD I AM
22:09.02XuerianFisker needs a pair of fiskers for his whiskers
22:09.29Fisker-i am going to end you Xuerian
22:09.39Xuerian:D
22:12.20kergoth"Abdel Benamrouche announced that he has updated the original 0.01 Linux kernel to compile with GCC-4.x, allowing it to run on emulators such as QEMU and Bochs. After applying his series of small patches, Abdel explains that the 0.01 kernel can be built on a system running the 2.6 Linux kernel. He added that he's successfully ported bach-3.2, portions of coreutils-6.9, dietlibc-0.31 (instead of glibc), bin86-0.16.17, make-3.81, ncurses-2.0.7,
22:12.21kergothand vim-7.1 all to run on his modified 0.01 kernel."
22:12.25kergothsome people have way too much time on their hands
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22:13.14Fisker-like your mother
22:13.16whizteris there an addon which is able to play sounds when i hit a certain % of hp, or flash the window like omen?
22:13.48kergothTNE_LowHealthWarning did that
22:14.19durcynparrot can, among many other things
22:14.26durcynas well as sct/msbt
22:15.06whizterok thx
22:15.13Lukianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/BankItems <- sexified!
22:15.18elsexwhereEtsia, lol @ "the goggles do nothing" =)
22:16.48whizterlol, it's enabled inside my sct, seems like i didn't notice it before.
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22:19.00ShadowedAny Mages on a US server available without Imp CS? Trying to see what events are fired when non imp CS is used
22:19.03Shadowedbut don't have any mages I can test with
22:21.43durcynShadowed: yes
22:21.49Shadowedyay
22:21.55Shadowedwhat server?
22:22.03durcynturalyon, alliance
22:22.33ShadowedWhere are you? Like, what starting area should I go fo
22:22.35Shadowedfor*
22:22.48durcynshattrath, just let me know which one you end up at
22:22.53bigzerohe's a mage...he's anywhere
22:23.05Shadowedkk
22:23.08durcynelf is probably closest
22:23.22ShadowedElfs is a longass run usually
22:23.30Shadowedhuman would probably be easiest
22:23.34durcynthey're all a bit of a hike.  ok, human
22:23.49ShadowedKk i'm online as "Mayen"
22:25.12Shadoweddamn wolf
22:25.15ShadowedYOUR NEUTRAL STOP ATTACKING ME
22:28.43ShadowedWell thats a pain in the ass
22:28.53ShadowedIt's impossible to track use of CS unless it actually interrupts something
22:29.19durcynshould be slightly less lame in 2.4
22:29.40Shadowedslouken said 2.4 changes the way we get combat logs, not the actual data we get I believe
22:29.48Shadowedhum
22:29.57ShadowedHave to use some trickery for this it appears
22:30.28durcynhm, thought it was going to be sent as events with actual tokens for actors
22:30.52ShadowedYeah, but the only event I have to go off of when you silenced me is
22:30.58Shadowed"Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light."
22:31.14durcynno spellcast events for counterspell at all?
22:32.04potemkinum
22:32.11potemkinif you get afflicted by imp cs is shows up
22:32.19durcyntalking about unimproved here
22:32.37Shadowedright
22:32.42Shadowedimp cs is easy, non-imp isn't
22:32.48potemkinyeah
22:32.49ShadowedCOMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE first arg "INTERRUPT", and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE first arg "Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light." are the only two events that fired
22:32.49Gnarfozit shows up when you do the interrupting, doesn't it?
22:32.55Gnarfozhm
22:32.59potemkinyoud have to make sure
22:33.01ShadowedIt only says you interrupted it, not specifically that CS did it
22:33.01potemkinfrobozz is a mage
22:33.06Shadowed....yes
22:33.13Shadowedhence trickery
22:33.16potemkinwhat if
22:33.20potemkinthe mage polys u while youre casting
22:33.24potemkinare you still interrupted
22:33.48PrimerAnyone know if SCT can display when an opponent is casting against me? If not, of another addon that puts text up like SCT, and does?
22:33.48Shadowedno, thats a cast interrupt not a spell interrupt
22:34.17durcynPrimer: there's a version of spellalert that writes to SCT
22:34.26Matrix110|witchhunt
22:34.37durcynPrimer: you could also use something like WitchHunt and output to SCT/MSBT/etc via Sink
22:34.42Shadowedhum actually
22:34.54Primerdurcyn: so you recommend WitchHunt?
22:34.58Shadoweddurcyn, would you be able to do one more quick test? COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE has 3 possible args, maybe a chance I can get the info out of that
22:34.59durcynPrimer: it's what i use.
22:35.13Birdemanidoes witchhunt output to parrot as well?
22:35.14durcynShadowed: sure, give me a sec to log that character back on
22:35.18Shadowedthanks, and np
22:35.22Shadowedsame place haven't moved
22:35.24Primerdurcyn: excellent, thanks
22:35.26durcynBirdemani: anything that supports Sink, which includesParrot
22:35.30durcynplus a space in there somewhere
22:36.25Primerdurcyn: so if I install WitchHunt via WAU, I shouldn't need to worry about deps (This "Sink" you mentioned)?
22:36.48durcynPrimer: sink is a library, it'll be included.
22:38.13Primermake oldconfig
22:38.17Primererr, mt
22:38.59Dezzimalanyone here use BaM?
22:39.03Dezzimalcurious
22:40.05Josh_BorkeBAM!
22:43.05Shadowedonly told the spell that was locked down, not the player
22:43.47ShadowedOh well, still got the CS info at least. Thanks durcyn
22:45.01Shadowednow I have to find a mage WITH Imp CS to figure out how long it takes before the imp CS portion fires!
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22:47.01CIA-803bigzero * r57813 10ForeverAFK/ (. ForeverAFK.lua ForeverAFK.toc embeds.xml):
22:47.01CIA-8ForeverAFK: initial commit
22:47.01CIA-8- When turned on prevents you from logging out
22:47.18DezzimalJosh_Borke: do you know where the sound comes from
22:49.00Gngskprevents you from logging out?
22:49.01Gngsksweet!
22:49.08Gngsk500 days played here I come
22:49.14Xinhuanuh how does that work bigzero?
22:49.36Josh_BorkeDezzimal: it's that cooking guy who yells BAM
22:49.37ShadowedProbably uses SendAddonmessage or whispers yourself
22:49.46Matrix110|it keeps unafking you but that doesnt work
22:49.49Matrix110|you get dced anyway
22:49.50durcynShadowed: you want a felhunter instead?
22:49.52Xinhuandoesn't work
22:49.57durcynShadowed: same effect iirc
22:50.03deadlockIs there a way to move the PVP inficator its up in top MID and covered over by my UI
22:50.11Xinhuanwow logs you out based on inactivity of hardware event keypresses
22:50.12Matrix110|You get dced even if you are not afk without hardware input
22:50.13bigzeroXinhuan, whenever the logout dialog comes up it cancels it
22:50.27XinhuanLOL that works?
22:50.37bigzeroMatrix110|, idk about dc, but it does prevent you from logging out
22:50.42Shadoweddurcyn: Yeah sure
22:50.48ShadowedXinhuan, as long as you're not in a city I don't see why not
22:50.53Shadowedsame server?
22:51.00durcynShadowed: sure
22:51.07Matrix110|No i mean you get automatically dced after 30mins
22:51.17Matrix110|without hardware inpuit
22:51.19Shadowedyou automatically get dced after being at character selection
22:51.22Shadowedafaik
22:51.27Shadowedbut it first logs you out
22:51.38Shadoweddurcyn, kk i'm online
22:51.47Matrix110|ah well idc there is no reason for this mod though :P
22:51.52Xinhuani believe the server disconnects you regardless of whether you click that dialog, but i don't afk long enough to find out
22:52.03bigzerohmmm, I'll test it...I still need to figure out how to make it less chatty...the "You've been inactive for a long time..." message starts spamming
22:52.20Xinhuanthat's a server message
22:52.22Xinhuanyou can't block those
22:52.27bigzerobut i only noticed it when you minimize
22:52.30Xinhuanits yellow in color
22:52.46bigzerowell, Xinhuan, you can block anything that goes into chat..
22:52.51Xinhuanwell yes
22:52.58Shadoweddurcyn: In the same area and such whenever you're ready
22:53.00Xinhuanbut its the server that controls whether you dc or not
22:53.07bigzeroanyway, gonna test if I get dc'ed
22:53.11Xinhuanso i would think unless you have real hardware input
22:53.20Xinhuanto click cancel
22:53.27Xinhuanits prob a protected function
22:53.28durcynShadowed: aye, brt
22:53.32bigzeroprobably right, still gives you 30 minutes instead of 15 of afk time
22:53.43Xinhuani'll suggest you turn on taintlog 1 for this
22:53.52Xinhuanto see if its a protected function
22:53.58Shadowedsince you log out instantly
22:54.16Xinhuani think you shouldn't put an addon on trunk if you haven't tested if it works or not :)
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22:54.24ShadowedXinhuan: oh well
22:54.29bigzeroit does work for logouts, but not for dc
22:54.32ShadowedI'll be sorry to see svn disappear =p
22:54.33bigzeromaybe
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22:55.44bigzeroXinhuan, actually the way it works is not really by clicking the cancel button. it just hides the popup...but the popup's onhide script has the canceling part built in
22:56.04Xinhuanyes, but i believe that function is secure ;p
22:56.24Xinhuananyway, dont' commit something you haven't tested!
22:56.50ShadowedInterrupt is at 416945.64, Debuff is at 416946.14
22:57.02RaydenUnihello
22:57.09ShadowedWheeee
22:57.09RaydenUnianyone been getting errors with arkinventory lately?
22:57.15Xinhuanwhat are you testing Shirik|AFK
22:57.18XinhuanShadowed*
22:57.19ShadowedI think, this may have to wait for 2.4 when we get actor ids
22:57.29RaydenUniafter i play for a while i get some layer # error every time i open my bags
22:57.34ShadowedXinhuan: Seeing about adding support for silences without debuffs, like Counterspell without imp
22:57.43Xinhuanwhy is that difficult?
22:57.58ShadowedBecause all you're told is you got interrupted, not the actual ability
22:58.26Xinhuanis there no "xyz casts Counterspell" event?
22:58.29ShadowedNope
22:58.46ShadowedBeen doing RegisterAllEvents and checking everything that fired, the only event that fires is
22:58.53Shadowed[32:34] <Shadowed> COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE first arg "INTERRUPT", and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE first arg "Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light." are the only two events that fired
22:59.15Xinhuanwell the only way a mage can interrupt a spell is by using a counterspell
22:59.24Xinhuanits safe to assume its a counterspell
22:59.40Xinhuanif the caster is a mage
23:00.00Xinhuanok there is a second method, its called Impact (2 sec stun, fire talent)
23:00.35Xinhuanshort of using gay unfarmable trinkets from arathi highlands hehe
23:00.52Shadowed"if" is the hard part
23:01.03Shadowedand you have accuracy issues with more then one mage, not like anyone uses more then one mage but still
23:01.15Xinhuanif there is more than one mage it doesn't matter
23:01.30Shadowedand again
23:01.35Xinhuanbecause if the caster is a mage, and you detected a spell is interrupted by a mage, you start a 24 sec countdown
23:01.42Shadowedi'm going to stab you
23:01.43Shadowedin a second
23:01.45Shadowedfyi
23:01.59Xinhuanif you detected another spell interrupted by a mage, then you start a 2nd 24 sec countdown
23:02.01Shadowedyou have to record a list of people to make sure the person is a mage
23:02.09Shadowedthen you have two interrupts
23:02.15Shadowedone the silence, and another is the imp cs portion
23:02.17Shadowedjust trust me
23:02.19Shadowedit's a pain in the ass
23:02.25Shadowedand i'm hungry, so i'm going to get food
23:02.26Xinhuanand if there really was 2 interrupts then it must have come from 2 mages
23:02.31Xinhuanso whats your point?
23:02.40Xinhuanyou would be correct to show 2 countdowns
23:02.47Shadowedse
23:02.48Shadowedbecause
23:02.52Shadowedtheres only ONE cooldown being burned
23:02.55Shadowednot two
23:03.11Xinhuani don't get it
23:03.30Xinhuancounterspell is 24 sec cd, regardless of whether there is a silence effect
23:03.34Xinhuandon't check the silence part
23:03.40Xinhuanits not relevant
23:04.09Shadowedgod
23:04.14Shadowedyes it is
23:04.24Shadowedtheirs *THREE* ways to check if someone was silenced
23:04.34ShadowedA) the debuff, B) the interrupt + knowing their class, C) it was resisted
23:04.56ShadowedIf A doesn't apply (No Imp CS), you can only use B and C. If they use CS and don't interrupt anything, you need to fall back on A
23:05.35Xinhuanso a counterspell is undetectable if it didn't interrupt anything and isn't improved.
23:05.37ShadowedIf you use all three, you have to restrict to only one silence like that being monitored at a time, or else you start A's timer and B's timer
23:05.40Shadowedyes
23:05.45Shadowedi went over that 10 minutes ago
23:05.49Xinhuansince its undetectable, why do you care? :)
23:06.01Xinhuanjust point it out to the addon user : its undetectable
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23:08.50chexsumi hate silence
23:10.16deadlockIs there a way to move the PVP inficator its up in top MID and covered over by my UI
23:11.00chexsumuse a unitframes mod
23:11.23chexsumor do you mean the flags/bases thing
23:12.00deadlockflags/bases thing
23:12.30chexsummoveanything can move it
23:12.30CIA-803ammo 07Ace3 * r57814 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: determine valid mail by subject existing not sender, sender is nil if someone deleted their char
23:12.44deadlockchexsum: kkk ill look into it
23:14.08CIA-803xinhuan 07Talents * r57815 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Add some initial functions to show the talents menu. Add some mage talent data.
23:16.39bigzeroWell, I'm not getting any taint from ForeverAFK and it will not work when you're resting (can't find a way to do it. doubt it's possible) Testing dc part now, but either way, it let's you stay logged on for at least 15 mins more :-)
23:17.30CIA-803morgalm * r57816 10MorgDKP/ (5 files):
23:17.30CIA-8MorgDKP:
23:17.30CIA-8- Fix for timestamp error due to leading "0" being lost
23:17.53kergothwhats foreverafk?
23:18.12bigzerocancels the logout when you afk for too long
23:18.31Xinhuanits supposed to be an addon that clicks the cancel button for you (staticpopup) when you afk too long and it auto-pops up that dialog to log you out in 20 seconds
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23:18.46Xinhuanhowever, i don't know if it actually works
23:18.52bigzeroXinhuan is still not convinced... :(
23:19.10Xinhuanbecause my reasoning is that the cancel function would probably require a hardware event (like any action button)
23:19.24Xinhuanso its untested ;d
23:19.35deadlockHave we tried it?
23:19.40bigzerobut it is...i've tried it several times
23:19.41Xinhuanno lol!
23:20.00Xinhuanwhat zone did you test it in
23:20.03bigzeroSMV
23:20.06deadlockbigzero: Did you use the addon to click cancle or did u clickc ancle yourself
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23:20.22bigzeroaddon hides the popup, which will cancel the logout
23:20.26Xinhuanhe merely makes a onshow call the onhide
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23:21.53Xinhuanmeh i'll checkout that addon now from the svn and see if it works in a city
23:21.53simlanI'm looking for an Addon that plays a sound if I kill players in the BG, can anybody tell me?
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23:22.03Shadowedone day
23:22.04bigzeroXinhuan, doesn't ork in city
23:22.05Shadowedsomeone is going to listen to what I say
23:22.12Shadowedi've said twice already, it won't work in a city
23:22.22bigzeroXinhuan, no way to do it...that part is hardcoded
23:22.24Shadowedyou logout instantly since you're resting and thus no 20 second logout
23:22.27Xinhuanright, i'll park myself 1 yard outside ironforge then
23:22.37Xinhuanand see if i'm online 6 hours later when i wake up
23:23.14bigzeroXinhuan, also if you minimize, note how many messeges you get, but once you maximize it back up those messeges stop..
23:23.20bigzeroeven though you remain afk
23:23.29Xinhuani run fullscreen maximised
23:23.35Xinhuanso minimizing isn't possible
23:25.24chexsumlogged in and still have preparation buff :)))
23:25.28Xinhuani don't understand why you had to use Ace2 for this addon
23:25.40Xinhuanand embed 3 entire libraries
23:26.24kergothi wish you could kill the 20 second logout entirely on max level characters
23:26.26Xinhuanwhen creating a SLASHwhatever = function() end and using hooksecurefunc() is enough
23:26.27kergothjust silly
23:26.40ShadowedIt's a PvP thing
23:26.41ShadowedI'd imagine
23:26.51Shadowedso you can't run and logout as soon as combat drops
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23:31.06exor674oo, a @ is around! -- kergoth, I know its been the holidays and all, but I sent in a SVN access request on the 27th and havenot gotten a response -- I'm wondering if google found my request tasty
23:31.44LukianI have an addon adding sellvalue, but I don't know which one it is
23:31.47Lukianany suggestions?
23:31.58exor674Informant?
23:32.00RaydenUnihas the armory been having trouble lately? it says my char hasn't been logged into lately and so it can't find any data
23:32.05RaydenUnii was on a couple days ago
23:32.17shieldbRaydenUni, Armory is "Working as always"
23:32.20durcynarmory's been garbage since it was implimented
23:32.22LukianRaydenUni, it's just stuck like that for a few characters :p
23:32.24shieldbthat is to say, it basically doesn't work at random
23:32.29durcynslightly more fouled up lately though, yes
23:32.34LukianRaydenUni, play for like 12hrs and it might sync
23:32.35RaydenUniand my guild was on wowjutsu the other day but it's not now...
23:32.44RaydenUnii was wondering if it might be because of the armory
23:32.49Aens|Superiorityeven if armory screws up alot, armory is a great feature
23:32.59Lukianexor674, can't be, I disabled EnhTooltip
23:33.05shieldbor more accurately, you're lucky if armory works properly for you
23:33.14RaydenUniit has always worked for me pretty much
23:33.29shieldbLukian, SellFish ? FuBar_GarbageFu ?
23:33.41LukianI'm trying to screenshot this, without the sell value: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:BankItemsTooltip.png
23:33.50Lukianno and no
23:34.03durcyni suppose it's a decent idea, but did they seriously have to impliment it using only AJAX and flash?  (the answer is no, btw)
23:35.45Xinhuanbigzero: i rewrote your entire addon using 17 lines without ace2 - http://pastey.net/79946
23:36.34shieldbRaydenUni, I know for the last week or two we've had almost every single one of our raiders show up as "needs to log in to refresh data"
23:36.40RaydenUniyeah
23:36.45RaydenUniits been happening a lot, that's why i ask
23:36.48shieldband then a few folks who basically just log on for a half an hour at a time to pvp and then are gone? They show up
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23:38.16shieldboh - does anyone happen to know if there is some good documentation on assessment's aura tracking?
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23:38.58CIA-803sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57817 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/: FuBar_PerformanceFu: branch to change memory display to show multipart addon memory usage as one total number
23:39.42shieldbwowace.com/wiki/Assessment lists "Auras -> Aura Details -> Aura Times" which gives me hope that I may be able to track time on particular buffs going down during combat
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23:41.33bigzeroXinhuan, i thought you didn't believe it worked.. :)
23:41.46Xinhuanwell i'm testing it ;d
23:41.51Xinhuanhttp://pastey.net/79946
23:41.53Xinhuango look
23:42.04bigzeroyeah yeah, I was actually messing with some other stuff that made Ace2 preferential, butit didn't work out in the end
23:42.09Xinhuanthere really is no need to use ace2 for small addons like these
23:42.20Xinhuanits what i call bloat
23:42.25bigzeroi agree
23:43.37JoshBorkethat doesn't really work, does it?
23:43.51Xinhuani don't know, i'll tell you in a few hours :D
23:44.05bigzerowait, does Unhook actually unhook a function or just makes aace2 call it directly?
23:44.31Xinhuanwhen you hook a function, all ace2 does it make a single hooksecurefunc() to it
23:44.35Xinhuanto its own internal function
23:44.41Xinhuanit then loops thru its tables
23:44.53Xinhuanand calls every function registered using ace2 that hooked it
23:45.02Xinhuanso you could "unhook it"
23:45.14Xinhuanby telling ace2 to remove that hook from its tables
23:45.27bigzerook, well, then no argument for ace2...you win
23:45.33Xinhuanthere is no method to unhook something hooked by hooksecurefunc()
23:45.34Xinhuan:)
23:45.41Xinhuanapart from using a true/false flag
23:45.49bigzeroimportant, imo
23:45.50Xinhuanat the top of your function
23:46.02bigzeroerr...not what i meant
23:46.37Xinhuanwell its still hooked, the flag just tells the function not to do anything as a means of unhooking
23:46.49bigzeroafk for 24 minutes so far
23:47.00bigzerostill logged in
23:47.09Xinhuanafk logout is 30 min afaik
23:47.19nevcairielyeah
23:47.23bigzerothen it should start spamming me in 6
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23:47.38CIA-803sylvanaar * r57818 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua:
23:47.38CIA-8FuBar_PerformanceFu: basic modification to group multipart addons. Will show eg.
23:47.38CIA-8Cartographer(20) - then the memory used by all its parts. Will still show the
23:47.38CIA-8individual modules in the list, but the main addon will show total instead of
23:47.38CIA-8just the core memory use
23:48.51Xinhuandoes it do the multipart detection by checking for the addon_ prefix?
23:49.22Xinhuanor actually do something more sophisticated like iterating thru the module list
23:50.57bigzeroXinhuan, I'm just gonna copy-paste your code and commit it
23:51.19Xinhuanbigzero i didn't actually check my code for syntax errors
23:51.32bigzeroright, I'll check that
23:51.36Xinhuancos i didn't want to reloadui and waste 30 minutes ;d
23:51.39Xinhuanof afk time
23:51.41Xinhuanlol!
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23:54.42Cavisty^gerberIs there any PVP mod that broadcasts stuff like Cavisty gains blessing of freedom! or like Cavisty begins to cast Holy Light! Kind of like an enemy castbar that broadcasts in raid warning
23:55.48bigzerohmm...afk for 33 minutes...maybe it doesn't do it if you keep scroling in chat..
23:56.07bigzerostill haven't gotten the force logout to come up
23:57.56LukianCavisty^gerber, so witchhunt, but with broadcasting?
23:57.59CIA-803sylvanaar * r57819 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: revert change to trunk copy
23:58.00Xinhuanhmm soon to be 30 min for me
23:58.02Lukian(and filtering)
23:58.22CIA-803sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57820 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua:
23:58.22CIA-8FuBar_PerformanceFu: basic modification to group multipart addons. Will show eg.
23:58.22CIA-8Cartographer(20) - then the memory used by all its parts. Will still show the
23:58.22CIA-8individual modules in the list, but the main addon will show total instead of
23:58.22CIA-8just the core memory use
23:59.13Lukianhaha
23:59.26Lukianhttp://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_TopScoreFu
23:59.50Lukiansummary, darkimakuni broke it, arrow attempted to fix it, darkimakuni actually fixed it.
23:59.52Cavisty^gerberLukian, Yes =)

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