00:00.27 | Pkekyo| | christ....we spent six months raiding to build that gbank |
00:00.44 | Shirik|AFK | Killmore: no |
00:00.51 | Lukian | are you sure he's not joking? :D |
00:00.53 | Shirik|AFK | if they were a friendly, you could guess |
00:01.07 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: the gbank is empty |
00:01.27 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, so maybe he's renaming the guild and moved it to another bank? :p |
00:01.30 | Shirik | See, GMs are ftl |
00:01.36 | Shirik | You should have a council at the top :) |
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00:02.22 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: it's a ghost guild...no reason to rename it...beside, it's the best gbank ever |
00:02.29 | Pkekyo| | guildname, not best gbank |
00:02.30 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
00:04.30 | Pkekyo| | guild name: Cult of the Frisky Goat... logo: http://www.cotfg.co.uk/images/main_txt_w.jpg (upper left) |
00:04.55 | Fisker- | i shoot you in the face Pkekyo| |
00:04.59 | Fisker- | i'm sowwy |
00:05.08 | Lukian | ooo that's awesome Pkekyo| ::D |
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00:05.22 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: why would you rename a guild like that?! /shrug |
00:05.30 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: why you shooting me? |
00:05.41 | Fisker- | because you suck ;( |
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00:07.16 | Pkekyo| | rofl, thanks |
00:08.27 | Fisker- | i require additional sleep. |
00:08.44 | Amadeo | I require more vespene gas |
00:09.04 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: go to bed then |
00:09.39 | Pkekyo| | why does a search for 'vespene' on wikipedia redirect you to starcraft? |
00:09.48 | Shirik | why not? |
00:09.51 | Zicon | Why wouldn't it? |
00:10.16 | Pkekyo| | I don't know |
00:10.22 | Pkekyo| | I was trying to find out what vespene was :< |
00:11.08 | Pkekyo| | (this would be the appropriate time for someone to tell me) |
00:11.47 | Shirik | ~wiki Vespene |
00:12.13 | Shirik | oh they don't have it anywhere in that article |
00:12.13 | Shirik | that sucks |
00:12.27 | Shirik | so you're saying the phrase "We require more vespene gas" means nothing to you? |
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00:13.31 | Pkekyo| | yes |
00:13.41 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
00:14.07 | Shirik | did you play warcraft? |
00:14.10 | Shirik | (not wow) |
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00:14.45 | Pkekyo| | only wc3 |
00:14.53 | Pkekyo| | and the expansion |
00:14.56 | Shirik | ok, without going into details, it's starcraft's "wood" |
00:15.05 | Pkekyo| | oh |
00:15.07 | Pkekyo| | makes sense then |
00:15.19 | Shirik | but it's so much more than that :P |
00:15.23 | Pkekyo| | I should play starcraft :< |
00:15.25 | Pkekyo| | rofl Shirik |
00:15.28 | elsewhere | is there an issue with waterfall and the text type is validating with a table but not multi-toggle displaying the actual value if you change option groups and then go back and view that group again? |
00:15.46 | Pkekyo| | reckon a lvl 57 quest will give me good xp at lvl 53? |
00:15.55 | Shirik | no |
00:16.01 | Pkekyo| | 11k xp |
00:16.04 | Shirik | but if it's a grinding quest, do it anyway |
00:16.14 | Pkekyo| | just completed it...gave me 11k |
00:16.25 | Shirik | then do it anyway |
00:16.49 | Pkekyo| | allready did, i say :p |
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00:17.00 | Pkekyo| | got my first proper trinket :) |
00:17.01 | Shirik | good |
00:17.55 | Shirik | I'm glad you took my advise |
00:18.21 | Pkekyo| | lol |
00:19.46 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rdd0bf9d5a4 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (12 files): |
00:19.46 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Tweaking ally guides to use |PRE| tag |
00:19.46 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Terokkar is no longer Aldor-specific |
00:19.46 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: * Netherstorm now handles Aldor questline... need someone to make/test Scryers |
00:21.19 | Xinhuan | bigzero ping - read ingame |
00:23.25 | Pkekyo| | zomg they're cybering! O.o |
00:23.43 | bigzero | you know it |
00:24.59 | Xinhuan | hehe |
00:25.29 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Paul Newsham <paul.newsham@gmail.com> 07master * re87605f1d7 10./TourGuide_Horde/37_38_Dustwallow_Marsh.lua: User fixes to horde dustwallow |
00:25.31 | Xinhuan | elsewhere: i understood nothing of what you typed ;p |
00:25.58 | Xinhuan | maybe you should rephrase |
00:27.21 | Pkekyo| | rolled a toon on an RP realm once |
00:27.28 | elsewhere | okay, in an options group, i have a text option type, it validates from a table of options, but isn't a multi-toggle, i can select the setting i want from the dropdown, but if i change to anoth page of options in the watefall config, or close the config screen and reopen, it doesn't display the selected settings, though it is still set |
00:27.30 | Pkekyo| | first thing I saw was two nelfs cybering |
00:27.43 | Pkekyo| | that's also when I stopped playing in RP servers |
00:28.36 | KivinSan | rofl... |
00:28.37 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, hot. what server was it? |
00:29.23 | elsewhere | my get line seems fine.... get = function(key) return MouseTarget.db.profile.button1[key] end |
00:30.04 | elsewhere | and this doesn't seem to affect text options types that do use multi-toggle, as i have one in there and it displays the settings fine |
00:30.46 | Nargiddley | if its not a multitoggle it doesnt have a key to send |
00:31.30 | Xinhuan | what is your "get" function |
00:31.34 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: can't remember...two years ago...also, you nasty! |
00:31.39 | Xinhuan | for that text option type |
00:31.49 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, I <3 cyber |
00:31.57 | Xinhuan | it should be returning the "key" for your options table |
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00:32.12 | Xinhuan | it should be returning the "key" for your validate table i mean |
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00:33.03 | elsewhere | yeah, i need to rethink my validation table, thanks for the help. gotta run. wife is giving me a stern look. i must've done something wrong again, lol |
00:33.49 | Pkekyo| | damnit, castbars doesn't work for me anymore |
00:33.59 | Pkekyo| | they just dissapear when the cast has lasted for like 0.5 sec |
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00:37.30 | Pkekyo| | DING |
00:46.51 | Xinhuan | http://www.myndflame.com/ |
00:46.54 | Xinhuan | hmm new movie isn't up yet |
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00:49.12 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57778 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Finally fill in all the missing enchantIDs. |
00:51.04 | Xinhuan | hmm that extra folder layer kinda sucks |
00:51.12 | Xinhuan | maybe i should delete it and rebranch |
00:51.26 | bigzero | can't you just move it |
00:51.31 | bigzero | within the svn |
00:51.50 | Xinhuan | i'm not exactly sure how stupid CIA reports it |
00:51.51 | Fisker- | hai |
00:51.58 | Xinhuan | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/WoWEquip/Talents/WoWEquip/*.* is where all the files are currently at |
00:52.44 | bigzero | where do you want them? |
00:52.47 | Fisker- | btw |
00:52.50 | Xinhuan | no idea |
00:52.55 | Xinhuan | ;d |
00:52.59 | Fisker- | when was it blizzard will be having a OMG PODCAST? |
00:53.11 | Xinhuan | i guess i don't really care |
00:53.16 | bigzero | ..ok...what do you want cia to display? |
00:53.37 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't go WoWEquip/WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua, that's one too many wowequips ;d |
00:54.02 | bigzero | I'm gonna experiment a little... |
00:55.55 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57779 10/branches/WoWEquip/test.txt: testing |
00:56.25 | Xinhuan | all the files should probably just be one folder level up |
00:56.54 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero 07Talents * r57780 10WoWEquip/test.txt: 1m ore test |
00:57.19 | bigzero | yeah...so it seems |
00:57.37 | Xinhuan | but if i move the files remotely, then switching to it might break |
00:58.17 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57781 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (Talents/test.txt test.txt): undoing test commits |
00:58.31 | bigzero | why? |
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00:58.45 | Xinhuan | i don't know, it just might |
00:59.07 | bigzero | move them remotely, then delete your folders and recheckout |
01:00.32 | bigzero | are you doing it? 'cause I'm about to try it |
01:00.47 | Xinhuan | try it if you want |
01:01.51 | Xinhuan | but that probably wouldn't preserve the folder externals |
01:02.16 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero 07Talents * r57782 10WoWEquip/ (11 files in 2 dirs): rearranging folder structure |
01:02.29 | bigzero | why is it called Talents anyway? |
01:02.40 | Xinhuan | adding talent support |
01:02.43 | Mudkipz | OMFG YES |
01:02.53 | Fisker- | OMFG NO |
01:02.55 | Mudkipz | i forgot my router password |
01:02.57 | Fisker- | also |
01:02.59 | Pkekyo| | what does WoWEquip do? |
01:02.59 | Fisker- | your mother Mudkipz |
01:03.05 | Mudkipz | and I didn't want to reset the freakin thing |
01:03.13 | Xinhuan | it is a ingame ct-profiles basically |
01:03.15 | Mudkipz | i was guessing right now and bam |
01:03.17 | Mudkipz | logged in |
01:03.22 | Mudkipz | GG all |
01:03.38 | Mudkipz | now I can turn wireless back on so I can mess with my psp |
01:03.50 | Fisker- | you must construct additional sleep |
01:04.01 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo|, couple of screenshots on mmo-champion front page if you care ;p |
01:04.08 | Mudkipz | so |
01:04.17 | Mudkipz | how was everyone's new years? |
01:04.23 | Xinhuan | i slept thru all of it |
01:04.35 | Mudkipz | oh :( |
01:05.09 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i think it's not really what you want the way it is now... CIA is just not smart enough. I'll revert it to the way it was |
01:06.38 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: cute |
01:06.43 | Fisker- | i can't sleep |
01:06.49 | Fisker- | you screwed up my biological clock |
01:06.52 | Fisker- | i'm going to sue you |
01:06.58 | Fisker- | got work in 3 hours |
01:07.06 | Fisker- | haven't slept for like 2 days now |
01:07.20 | Fisker- | think i'm gonna call in sick :( |
01:07.28 | Fisker- | which is your fault Pkekyo| |
01:07.45 | Mudkipz | way to blame other people for your problems fishbot2 |
01:07.47 | Mudkipz | ffs |
01:07.51 | Mudkipz | Fisker |
01:08.00 | Mudkipz | look what you did to me |
01:08.04 | Mudkipz | c wut i did thar? |
01:08.14 | Fisker- | definitely |
01:08.18 | Mudkipz | o/ |
01:08.35 | Mudkipz | so I got this psp as a late xmas present |
01:08.49 | Mudkipz | it feels strange having one |
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01:10.54 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: what gave you the impression I care? |
01:11.08 | Fisker- | i am not Xinhuan |
01:11.11 | Fisker- | ~fail Pkekyo| |
01:11.12 | purl | Pkekyo|: Fail. |
01:11.21 | Pkekyo| | ~lart Fisker- |
01:11.21 | purl | cuts Fisker- into thin stripes |
01:11.25 | Fisker- | ~fail Pkekyo| |
01:11.26 | purl | Pkekyo|: Fail. |
01:11.35 | Pkekyo| | ~lart Fisker- |
01:11.35 | purl | nukes Fisker- with a single large nuke |
01:11.40 | Fisker- | ~fail Pkekyo| |
01:11.41 | purl | Pkekyo|: Fail. |
01:11.50 | Fisker- | you're not able to stop me |
01:12.04 | Fisker- | gonna try to get some sleep now though |
01:12.20 | Fisker- | before madness ensues |
01:12.25 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
01:12.30 | Pkekyo| | madness ensued you ages ago |
01:12.36 | Pkekyo| | as did blasphemy |
01:12.37 | Xinhuan | bigzero, i should probably just rebranch the whole thing |
01:12.41 | Pkekyo| | see what I did there? |
01:13.24 | bigzero | Xinhuan, maybe...I can't figure out how to revert changes, lol |
01:13.33 | Xinhuan | heh |
01:13.45 | JoshBorke | you suck Xinhuan |
01:13.46 | Shirik | revert, commit |
01:13.47 | Shirik | it's not hard |
01:14.07 | Shirik|zZz | you're on windows so I assume you're using tortoise |
01:14.09 | bigzero | it won't let me do revert on a folder |
01:14.56 | Shirik|zZz | yes? |
01:15.06 | Xinhuan | i am indeed on tortoise, and its completely out of sync since the folder changes on the branch can't be resolved on my end ;p |
01:15.12 | Xinhuan | at least not without rechecking out |
01:15.19 | bigzero | so how am I supposed to get the deleted files back |
01:15.40 | bigzero | Xinhuan, updating doesn't work for you? |
01:15.40 | Shirik|zZz | right click, hit revert |
01:15.44 | Shirik|zZz | that's it |
01:15.49 | Xinhuan | nope, path doesn't exist |
01:15.59 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, nigth |
01:16.24 | bigzero | right-click, revert gives me a window with an empty file list |
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01:17.02 | bigzero | Xinhuan, oh, that's because it doesn't...I'm stupid and moved all the files one dir up |
01:17.16 | bigzero | and then realized that's not what you wanted |
01:18.50 | Pkekyo| | ~dict mandible |
01:19.01 | Pkekyo| | ~dict vertebrates |
01:19.29 | bigzero | ~dict vertebrate |
01:21.18 | Pkekyo| | didn't know spiders were vertebrates |
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01:22.51 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57783 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Delete broken branch ;d |
01:24.12 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck would a mother give her kid 27 names? O.o |
01:24.31 | bigzero | Pkekyo| spiders aren't vertebrates |
01:24.31 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57784 10BuyCrap/ (BuyCrap.toc addon.lua config.lua): |
01:24.31 | CIA-8 | BuyCrap: |
01:24.31 | CIA-8 | -Split slashcommand stuff into its own file |
01:24.31 | CIA-8 | -Merge the quantity needed function into the merchant loop |
01:24.32 | CIA-8 | -AddonLoader support |
01:24.47 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: that's what I thought...why the hell do they then have mandibles? |
01:25.11 | bigzero | where did you read that? |
01:25.25 | bigzero | oh...wow |
01:25.35 | Pkekyo| | in my bags I have about 100 spider mandibles :p |
01:25.54 | Pkekyo| | didn't know what a mandible was, so I looked it up |
01:26.17 | Kemayo | To be fair, insects do have mandibles. The ~dict response is inaccurate. |
01:26.19 | bigzero | how do you make purl show the other results for dict querries? |
01:26.28 | bigzero | it's just not all there |
01:26.33 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
01:26.33 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
01:26.33 | bigzero | <PROTECTED> |
01:27.03 | bigzero | ~dict mandible |
01:27.28 | bigzero | ~dict |
01:27.37 | bigzero | ~dict mandible 2 |
01:27.50 | bigzero | ~dict 2 mandible |
01:27.55 | bigzero | ha |
01:28.02 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
01:28.44 | bigzero | doesn't help, but at least now I know how to make it display the other result |
01:28.59 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57785 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Finally fill in all the missing enchantIDs. |
01:29.05 | bigzero | ~dict vertebrate |
01:29.29 | bigzero | wth...it was different like 5 minutes ago |
01:29.53 | bigzero | ~dict vertebrate |
01:30.10 | Pkekyo| | ~dict arthropod |
01:30.17 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57786 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Branch from r57785 to add talents support |
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01:30.48 | Pkekyo| | so a spider is an arthropod? |
01:30.59 | bigzero | yeah |
01:32.07 | bigzero | Animalia Arthropoda Arachnida Araneae |
01:32.32 | Pkekyo| | wait, what? |
01:32.44 | bigzero | Kingdom Phylum Class Order |
01:33.20 | bigzero | ~dict vertebrate |
01:33.23 | Pkekyo| | in the words of the great Sam L. Jackson: english, motherfucker, do you speak it? |
01:33.45 | bigzero | classification of Spider |
01:33.56 | bigzero | forget it...lol |
01:34.29 | vithos | Xinhuan: every time the raid group changes, the context menu for items in WoWEquip disappears |
01:35.00 | Xinhuan | lol, i used blizzard's UIDropDownMenu |
01:35.01 | Pkekyo| | ~dict arachnid |
01:35.11 | Xinhuan | the raid group code probably has code to call its menu to close |
01:35.24 | Xinhuan | so bad luck :) |
01:35.27 | Pkekyo| | any idea what "simple eyes" means? |
01:35.50 | vithos | ah lol |
01:35.52 | Xinhuan | even if i were to switch to dewdroplib, any addon's dewdrop:Close() could cause wowequip's menu to close |
01:36.06 | Xinhuan | but i didn't use dewdroplib, just straight up blizzard's default menu UI |
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01:37.08 | vithos | Pkekyo|: simple eye - an eye having a single lens |
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01:39.39 | Pkekyo| | meh, I should've paid attention in science class :p |
01:41.13 | Pkekyo| | meh...I should've paid attention in class, period |
01:43.10 | Estil | we actually have to pay attention in class? |
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01:44.16 | Pkekyo| | Estil: it helps |
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01:50.51 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r751 10/trunk/Panda/PricePanel.lua: Panda - Add BC Prospecting items to price panel, and estimate on crushed value of FI/Adam. Price in (parens) assumes green gems are vendored |
01:50.56 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r751 10/trunk/Panda/PricePanel.lua: Panda - Add BC Prospecting items to price panel, and estimate on crushed value of FI/Adam. Price in (parens) assumes green gems are vendored |
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01:57.40 | CIA-8 | 03tawerner * r57787 10Rep2/Rep2.lua: |
01:57.40 | CIA-8 | Rep2: |
01:57.40 | CIA-8 | - Fixed typo preventing further display after a change in standing |
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02:03.16 | tekcub | question for the jewelcrafters... |
02:03.38 | tekcub | you make money off crushing for raw gems (blues I'm sure) or off cutting the gems? |
02:04.06 | Superfly1 | both i guess |
02:04.46 | tekcub | well I mean, do you ONLY cut them, or do you crush and sell the raws? |
02:04.55 | tekcub | or a mix of both? |
02:05.22 | Superfly1 | well i dont have so much rare recips, so iusually crush them |
02:05.39 | Superfly1 | but i think if you have a rare stuff you could make more money |
02:05.52 | tekcub | make good profit on that? my estimates are only ~8% profit on adam |
02:06.17 | tekcub | just debating if I should start crushing now (64) or wait till 70 to level it up |
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02:06.33 | Superfly1 | well you have to invest a lot of money on patterns |
02:06.51 | Superfly1 | my friend usually earns about 3-4k gold / weekend |
02:07.11 | Pkekyo| | what do you mean by "crush them"? |
02:07.13 | tekcub | hrm... true the patterns are mostly not BoP aren't they? |
02:07.17 | Superfly1 | prospect |
02:07.24 | tekcub | prospecting + DE == crushing |
02:07.35 | Superfly1 | well some patterns are bop |
02:07.38 | tekcub | I already DE for cash :) |
02:07.41 | Superfly1 | some arent |
02:07.47 | Superfly1 | me2 ;) |
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02:07.58 | tekcub | was just wondering if it was worth it to take JC before I had patterns to cut |
02:08.17 | Superfly1 | well you can still make money with prospect |
02:08.20 | tekcub | and was thinking I need 70 and instances for the majority of the good patterns |
02:08.39 | Superfly1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32410 |
02:08.49 | Superfly1 | i got this pattern from a 71er normal mob |
02:08.59 | Superfly1 | and it is boe, and around 400g |
02:09.33 | Superfly1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32411 this one, sorry :) |
02:10.54 | Pkekyo| | tekcubprospecting + DE == crushing <---- DEing what? gems? |
02:11.15 | bigzero | hmmm, this is weird, I think you can spend charges on the refreshment table even if your inventory is full |
02:11.18 | Superfly1 | green items |
02:11.27 | Superfly1 | or blues |
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02:11.36 | Superfly1 | arcane dust and etc |
02:12.27 | bigzero | propecting = de'able items? |
02:12.32 | bigzero | prospecting* |
02:12.42 | Tekkub | stupid internet |
02:14.40 | Tekkub | 21 BoP blue patterns vs. 48 non-BoP ones |
02:14.46 | Tekkub | guess it's worth it then |
02:15.38 | Superfly1 | yes , as i said before, you have to invest a lot |
02:15.47 | Tekkub | only 4 of the blue BoPs are for gems too |
02:15.56 | Tekkub | I'm fine with investing |
02:16.02 | Tekkub | I have steady income from DEing |
02:16.24 | Superfly1 | how much you earn a day? |
02:16.29 | Superfly1 | avg day |
02:16.36 | Tekkub | fuck if I know |
02:16.49 | Tekkub | I just buy out the AH once a day and crush it all |
02:17.10 | Tekkub | I've paid for my main's epic flying, and I have 1.6k back |
02:17.42 | Superfly1 | i used to that, but wasnt really sure i should invest more than 300g once |
02:18.06 | Tekkub | I prolly average 300g spent pur scan |
02:18.42 | Tekkub | think I make 100-200g profit on a batch |
02:18.43 | Superfly1 | xmas/NYE was pretty poor, and noone bought any arcane dust from me, and a day after i've sold 120 |
02:18.57 | Tekkub | yea dust's been a bitch to move since 2.3 |
02:19.05 | Tekkub | but essence goes instantly |
02:19.10 | Tekkub | it was the reverse before |
02:19.35 | Superfly1 | what do you suggest buy items what i can de essence or dusts? |
02:19.58 | Fisker- | i use my arcane dust for large prismatic shards |
02:20.03 | Fisker- | = i win |
02:20.11 | Tekkub | I rarely see weapons cheap enough to buy, prolly 95% of what I crush is armor |
02:20.29 | Tekkub | wait what fister? |
02:20.55 | Fisker- | i got tailoring |
02:21.03 | Fisker- | crafting arcanoweave bracers for shards |
02:21.10 | Superfly1 | aye |
02:21.14 | Tekkub | hrm....... |
02:21.22 | Tekkub | tempting.... |
02:21.42 | Tekkub | *grabs calculator |
02:21.53 | Fisker- | if i buy it all it's usually around 24g |
02:22.02 | Fisker- | but i supply with some arcane dust and netherweave cloth |
02:22.25 | Tekkub | well I always price out the AH value... |
02:22.42 | Tekkub | if I can't buy it all on AH and turn a profit, it's better to just sell the raw on AH |
02:22.54 | Fisker- | yeah |
02:23.00 | Fisker- | but that's the point |
02:23.10 | Fisker- | arcane dust and netherweave is hard to sell imo |
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02:23.31 | Fisker- | ownt |
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02:23.45 | Tekkub | *grrr* |
02:23.53 | Tekkub | but yea, I hate teaching basic econ to the children in my guild |
02:23.54 | Fisker- | anyways i was running around with like 10-15 stacks of arcane dust |
02:24.00 | Chosi | whodrop > mendeleev |
02:24.05 | Tekkub | "oh but I farmed the mats I make more money that way" |
02:24.13 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57788 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Loop should start at 1. |
02:24.24 | Chosi | how come mendeleev lacks some info? |
02:24.26 | Chosi | sucks. |
02:24.47 | Fisker- | well raw materials will usually cost you money to put up |
02:24.59 | Fisker- | so i prefer to get all my ah stuff in enchanting mats |
02:25.01 | Fisker- | free to put up |
02:25.03 | Superfly1 | btw how you guys scan the ah? auctineer? |
02:25.08 | Tekkub | AucAdv |
02:25.11 | Fisker- | same |
02:25.18 | Superfly1 | maybe you know the answer |
02:25.27 | Superfly1 | some ****hole put some shards on a very high price |
02:25.30 | Superfly1 | avg is about 50g |
02:25.40 | Superfly1 | and small glimm shard is about 50g |
02:25.41 | Tekkub | tweak your outlier filter |
02:25.45 | Tekkub | or just blist him |
02:25.47 | Superfly1 | is theere a way to clean that? |
02:25.51 | Tekkub | clean, no |
02:25.57 | Tekkub | avoid in future, yes |
02:26.13 | Fisker- | how do you blacklist stuff? |
02:26.23 | Superfly1 | ok, so just drop the database and tune my rules |
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02:29.05 | tekcub | fuck you comcast |
02:29.13 | Fisker- | agree |
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02:29.30 | tekcub | our neighborhood's spike is broken |
02:29.40 | tekcub | it gets cold out, cable drops a lot |
02:29.57 | tekcub | we've been on the phone with em 4 times, two guys out (one today) |
02:30.06 | tekcub | and they finally said it was the whole area, not just us |
02:30.19 | Fisker- | :O |
02:30.38 | Fisker- | I had some lag issues for a while as well |
02:30.50 | Fisker- | And they were like "But it's because the server on the other side is slow" |
02:31.01 | tekcub | it hiccups just long enough that WoW DC's most times |
02:31.05 | tekcub | and IRC craps out |
02:31.10 | Fisker- | Look, i'm giving you a traceroute report that shows massive slowdowns within your network |
02:31.15 | Fisker- | "bla bla run this program" |
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02:31.32 | Fisker- | so after like the 5th time someone finally gets the issue escalated :P |
02:31.35 | Fisker- | and it's fixed some days after |
02:32.00 | Fisker- | The 2 first hops after my connection out was hanging at 200-300msec |
02:32.07 | Fisker- | if i pinged something i'd have a 15-20% packetloss |
02:32.09 | tekcub | heh |
02:32.23 | tekcub | yea it sucks when you can prove the tier 1 reps wrong |
02:32.42 | tekcub | "hi, I know shit about computers, I can actually run a traceroute..." |
02:33.13 | Fisker- | I want to switch to fiber |
02:33.37 | tekcub | I've never had issues with cable till this |
02:33.50 | tekcub | well and a dying modem before, but that was a fast $40 fix |
02:34.02 | Fisker- | but the company responsible for that says they want atleast 30% of the households to sign a "notification of interest" |
02:34.22 | Fisker- | like that's going to happen ever :( |
02:35.06 | tekcub | WayOutWest? |
02:35.11 | tekcub | they still exist even? |
02:35.35 | Fisker- | who? :P |
02:35.40 | Fisker- | I'm from denmark |
02:35.47 | tekcub | oh |
02:35.55 | Fisker- | the company responsible for the fiber cables are called Seas |
02:35.59 | tekcub | was a fiber provider in CO, don't know if they're still around |
02:36.15 | tekcub | their first test neighorborhood was ~ a mile from me |
02:36.38 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: I'd sign the notification of interest :p |
02:36.39 | tekcub | wired a whole subdivision for fiber-based TV/net/phone |
02:36.41 | Fisker- | of course the funny thing about the story is that seas (also responsible for the electricity) is starting to improve the powergrid nationwide |
02:36.53 | Fisker- | We're one of the first regions to recieve this overhaul |
02:36.56 | tekcub | was like 5mbps/sec both ways |
02:37.02 | Fisker- | And while they're doing this overhaul they also dig down fibercable |
02:37.22 | Fisker- | But they won't use it until they have a pretty firm grasp of how many they can expect to use their service |
02:37.55 | Fisker- | so i could go just outside, make a hole in the concrete and look there's sum fiber |
02:38.00 | Fisker- | except it's not being used :( |
02:39.06 | Pkekyo| | FUCKSAKE! this bloody alliance rogue won't let me leave |
02:39.06 | Pkekyo| | keeps popping distract and sap on me! >.< |
02:39.55 | Thelyna | tekcub - if I go to the git repo for TourGuide and get the latest version of the guide I'm modifying (1-12 Azuremyst) to diff it for submission, where do I find the rev. number (or whatever git uses) for you? |
02:41.30 | Thelyna | is it the first 8 characters of the "tree/?h=dfb0fff..." part of the URL in the web interface to git? |
02:41.48 | Pkekyo| | 4 spelldamage vs. 4 stam, 3spir and 7 int? |
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02:53.18 | Pkekyo| | is it possible to dismiss your water elemental? |
02:55.51 | Ellipsis | right click pet frame, click dismiss? |
02:56.18 | Pkekyo| | don't have a pet frame :/ |
02:57.15 | Pkekyo| | actually, I don't have a single unitframe :p |
02:57.44 | Pkekyo| | well, that's not entirely true... I've got raid frames....but they're mostly decorative :p |
02:58.09 | Gnarfoz | I'd expect the corresponding function call to be protected by now |
02:58.40 | Arrowmaster | it used to be protected |
02:58.58 | Arrowmaster | and it caused a ton of menu taint and got unprotected |
02:59.26 | silentium | what about "/script PetDismiss()"? wowwiki doesnt have much details about it |
03:00.30 | Pkekyo| | my bloody water elemental keep spulling aggro when I try to avoid mobs :p |
03:00.36 | Pkekyo| | thanks silentium, gonna try that one next time I pop it |
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03:01.47 | Pkekyo| | is there a limit to how many macros you can have? |
03:05.00 | Gngsk | 36 |
03:05.15 | Gagorian | "over 9000?" |
03:06.14 | Gngsk | it's easy to get around though |
03:07.32 | Pkekyo| | how? |
03:08.36 | Gngsk | macro sequence |
03:09.53 | CIA-8 | 03gagorian * r57789 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: -Corrected deDE translation for Soul Siphon |
03:10.37 | Fisker- | BEEP BEEP |
03:10.41 | Fisker- | I'M AN ALARM CLOCK |
03:10.42 | Fisker- | RAWR |
03:11.30 | Thelyna | Tekkub - if I go to the git repo for TourGuide and get the latest version of the guide I'm modifying (1-12 Azuremyst) to diff it for submission, where do I find the rev. number (or whatever git uses) for you? is it the first 8 characters of the "tree/?h=dfb0fff..." part of the URL in the web interface to git? |
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03:13.16 | Pkekyo| | BEEP BEEP I'M A JEEP |
03:13.23 | Pkekyo| | ~fail Fisker- |
03:13.24 | purl | Fisker-: Fail. |
03:14.28 | Estil | I can't wait to get my druid to 70 |
03:15.54 | Pkekyo| | why not? |
03:16.00 | Estil | as soon as I hit 70 |
03:16.04 | Estil | I can enjoy easymode Arena |
03:16.41 | Pkekyo| | lols |
03:16.45 | Thelyna | erm .... druid isn't easymode in arena |
03:16.46 | Gngsk | if only that were true |
03:16.51 | Pkekyo| | "easymode arena" |
03:16.53 | Estil | correction |
03:16.55 | Estil | 2v2 arena |
03:17.02 | Gngsk | druid is only 1 |
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03:17.28 | Estil | druid sucks in 5v5 |
03:17.31 | Estil | but I have priest for 5v5 |
03:17.35 | Estil | so I will now have a druid for 2v2 |
03:17.46 | Gngsk | priests are fine in 2s |
03:18.01 | Gngsk | don't see why you'd roll a druid just for one arena bracket |
03:18.18 | Estil | well |
03:18.23 | Estil | my 2v2 arena partner is a warrior |
03:18.27 | Estil | and warrior+priest don't work very well |
03:18.29 | Estil | in 2s |
03:18.42 | Gngsk | I guess |
03:18.44 | dylanm | Make _him_ roll a rogue :p |
03:18.44 | Estil | he wants to hit 2000s so he can get s3 weapon and he knows we ain't hitting that in bg9 |
03:18.49 | Estil | with warr+priest |
03:20.09 | Pkekyo| | 7int, 4stam, 3spir, 5spelldmg vs. 9spelldmg? |
03:20.10 | Estil | nah rogues are dime a dozen |
03:20.21 | Estil | former |
03:20.29 | Pkekyo| | the intstamspirspelldmg? |
03:20.40 | Estil | yes |
03:20.51 | Pkekyo| | aighty, new shoulders for me then |
03:21.04 | Pkekyo| | finally a replacement for the ones I picked up in SM, 24 levels ago :p |
03:22.02 | Estil | ouch |
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03:22.43 | Pkekyo| | ouch? |
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03:27.03 | rubik | does mail sent from one toon to another (same account) not get returned to sender if it's been opened but not picked up after 29 days? |
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03:30.28 | Pkekyo| | it should? |
03:30.49 | ulic | mine gets returned more then I'd like, always forgetting to log on my mules :) |
03:32.18 | Pkekyo| | ~spammenot |
03:32.39 | Pkekyo| | anyone know who the flying fuck wrote SpamMeNot? |
03:33.00 | Fisker- | it's 30 days :P |
03:33.59 | silentium | I've noticed that sometimes expired mail doesnt arrive back at the sender instantly, sometimes it took them up to 2 days (I think) to come back |
03:34.35 | silentium | gave me quite a headache of "where the fuck has that item gone? I'm sure it was in that alt's mailbox" |
03:35.59 | Pkekyo| | that piece of shit addon SpamMeNot won't stop spamming me >.< |
03:36.01 | Fisker- | yeah silentium |
03:36.24 | Fisker- | there's apparently also some load issues with causes mail to be extra delayed |
03:36.53 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: solution, dont use that pos SpamMeNot |
03:37.42 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, don't use it? |
03:37.42 | Arrowmaster | moron who wrote it practically hooked every function ever hooked using acehook originally |
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03:37.48 | Arrowmaster | its trash |
03:38.41 | Pkekyo| | I don't use it...other people does, and THEIR SpamMeNot spams me! |
03:38.51 | Arrowmaster | what? |
03:38.56 | Arrowmaster | how is that possible |
03:39.25 | Pkekyo| | no idea |
03:39.53 | Pkekyo| | for no reason, all of a suddon my GMs SpamMeNot starts spamming me about me having to be lvl 2 to contact him |
03:40.18 | Pkekyo| | - without me having whispered him |
03:40.24 | Arrowmaster | lol |
03:40.33 | Pkekyo| | not to mention the "message timed out" spam when I actually DO whisper him |
03:40.39 | Pkekyo| | it's ridiculous |
03:40.42 | Arrowmaster | silly question to ask but do you use DBM? |
03:40.47 | Pkekyo| | no |
03:41.16 | Arrowmaster | can you think of any other shitty addons that still use normal whispers for comms |
03:41.36 | Pkekyo| | not really |
03:41.48 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57790 10BuyCrap/addon.lua: BuyCrap: Nil check. |
03:41.55 | Pkekyo| | oh well, atleast it gives me the opportunity to rip my GM a new one every time it happens :p |
03:42.32 | bigzero | what does setglobal() do? |
03:42.43 | Pkekyo| | it sets global? |
03:42.55 | Pkekyo| | "Thank you, captain obvious!" :p |
03:43.10 | bigzero | what's the point of that? bypass local variables? |
03:43.14 | Arrowmaster | no |
03:43.19 | Arrowmaster | its pointless |
03:43.21 | bigzero | setglobal("SMN_TEXT_SPAMMER_TITLE", L["Spammer:"]) |
03:43.27 | Arrowmaster | author is a douch |
03:43.33 | Arrowmaster | that cant code |
03:43.53 | Kemayo | If you wanted to set a variable variable. |
03:44.08 | Kemayo | setglobal("variable"..i, "foo") |
03:44.35 | Arrowmaster | _G["variable"..i] = "foo" |
03:44.42 | Arrowmaster | still pointless |
03:44.44 | Kemayo | Well, yeah. |
03:45.02 | bigzero | getglobal("variable"..i) = "foo" is the same also, right? |
03:45.11 | Kemayo | Nope. |
03:45.21 | bigzero | yeah, i see it |
03:45.23 | bigzero | nvm |
03:45.35 | bigzero | getglobal actually get the value....doh |
03:46.31 | Pkekyo| | rofl, I |
03:46.50 | Pkekyo| | I've been in #wowhead for hours today, didn't even notice the difference between that and here :p |
03:47.07 | Galka | Anyone have a recommendation for a decent, movable target castbar that might also have some options like scaling? Id rather not use Quartz for only Quartz Target |
03:47.10 | Superfly1 | :DD |
03:48.28 | bigzero | is there even a point to SpamMeNot anymore? I haven't had anyone spam in any channel but /say for months now |
03:48.56 | Arrowmaster | no theres not |
03:49.17 | Arrowmaster | unless you want to use an addon that hooks so many damn functions in the ugliest fucking ways possible |
03:49.34 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: I'm getting it in /s, /trade, /emote and mail still |
03:49.41 | Pkekyo| | but spammenot is fucking useless |
03:49.57 | Pkekyo| | SpamSentry on the other hand seems to work just as it should...prevents goldspam |
03:50.23 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, hat server? |
03:50.26 | bigzero | what* |
03:50.42 | Pkekyo| | Bloodfeather EU |
03:52.10 | Pkekyo| | they are most frequent in /emote though |
03:52.21 | Pkekyo| | and those doesn't get blocked by addons |
03:54.23 | CIA-8 | 03swearl * r57791 10nQuestLog/ (locales/zhCN.lua modules/Tooltips/locales/zhCN.lua): |
03:54.23 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
03:54.23 | CIA-8 | - Update locale zhCN |
03:54.35 | Pkekyo| | zhCN? |
03:56.17 | Stanzilla | China? |
03:56.38 | Pkekyo| | I got the chinese part, but zh? |
03:57.05 | Thelyna | probably the language set they us |
03:57.07 | Thelyna | *use |
03:57.24 | Stanzilla | it's simplified chinese |
03:57.40 | Thelyna | like the other locales are enGB, enUS, frFR, deDE etc - it's probably just a bit of redundancy |
03:58.18 | Stanzilla | traditional chinese is zhTW |
03:59.22 | Pkekyo| | thought zhTW was taiwanese or something >.< |
03:59.34 | Stanzilla | same lol, I just googled it :p |
04:00.16 | Pkekyo| | then wtf is the extension for taiwanese localization? :p |
04:00.44 | Stanzilla | urm |
04:00.52 | Stanzilla | I think there is no taiwanese wow version |
04:01.04 | Stanzilla | they all have a variant of the chinese one |
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04:01.18 | NightHawkTheSane | to be sure, those locales are not specific to wow :P |
04:01.38 | Stanzilla | yeah and that |
04:01.39 | Stanzilla | :( |
04:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | the better question is IS there a specific taiwanese locale |
04:02.50 | Pkekyo| | I think any 'better question' should include 'what the flying fuck' tbh... |
04:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | and the multiple parts of those locales are, i believe, for clarity. for example, enUS vs enGB |
04:03.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: no, not every question needs profanity |
04:03.47 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: I beg to differ |
04:03.52 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd be wrong |
04:04.00 | Pkekyo| | no u |
04:04.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, that's an excellent retort. go sniff glue. |
04:04.35 | Stanzilla | there is no taiwanese language |
04:04.40 | Stanzilla | they speak chinese |
04:05.03 | Pkekyo| | I never sniffed glue, and never will |
04:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Stanzilla: yeah, i thought as much, but language and locale are not a one-to-one relationship |
04:05.29 | Pkekyo| | if the chinese speak chinese, and the taiwanese speak chinese....who speak mandarin? |
04:06.01 | Stanzilla | yeah but there are only 2 locals for the whole chinese speaking people |
04:06.08 | NightHawkTheSane | mandarin IS chinese |
04:06.09 | Stanzilla | one is zhCN and the other zhTW |
04:06.18 | Pkekyo| | indeed, NightHawkTheSane.... in norway we speak Norwegian, but we've got both noNN and noBM |
04:06.49 | Pkekyo| | and noNN sucks frozen donkeyballs, I might add |
04:07.13 | Stanzilla | in austria and switzerland they speak german with heavy dialects but there is no locale for both countries |
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04:08.03 | Pkekyo| | wtf, server restart today? |
04:08.23 | Stanzilla | it's wednesday |
04:08.31 | tjs | anyone know of a tanking addon that tracks threat across multiple targets and would let you select a target based on threat or something |
04:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | goddammit, i just sent primal life's to one of my alts, i think, but i dont know hwo |
04:08.35 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: dialects doesn't count...if you were to localize every bloody dialect there was, you'd be translating until armageddon arrived |
04:08.36 | Stanzilla | we-bork-your-servers-day in europe |
04:08.57 | tjs | kinda like healbot but tankbot, where you see all agro targets or something, coloured based on threat |
04:08.58 | Pkekyo| | it's wednesday allread? |
04:09.00 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: yes but I think that "taiwanese" if it exists is just a dialect |
04:09.40 | Pkekyo| | fucksake...don't know what day it is...haven't seen daylight for a week |
04:09.50 | Stanzilla | day..what? |
04:10.26 | NightHawkTheSane | tjs: Aloft, I believe, can add a threat bar to a mob's nameplate |
04:10.36 | ulic | I think if blizzard goes to the trouble to translate a game for a dialect/language then addons can (if they want) too, other then that, they just have to deal since the rest of the game isn't in their language. |
04:10.42 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: what day today is...until you told me, that is |
04:10.45 | tjs | NightHawkTheSane: ooh that would be ideal |
04:10.54 | tjs | cheers |
04:10.57 | KivinSan | Filtering incoming whispers, says, and emotes based on sender's character level: This would be completely dependent on the bottleneck of /who cooldown, right? |
04:11.05 | Pkekyo| | daylight ~ light of day...whatev |
04:11.30 | NightHawkTheSane | KivinSan: barring caching of data, probably |
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04:11.55 | KivinSan | hum... |
04:12.29 | KivinSan | Maybe I'll try it anyway and see if it's completely worthless in real time |
04:14.02 | tjs | Aloft uses threat 1.0 and so does Omen, would that mean they share threat table info or would I be doubling up on that data? |
04:14.21 | KivinSan | Threat only gets loaded into memory once |
04:14.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
04:14.28 | tjs | neato |
04:14.36 | KivinSan | Likewise to all libraries |
04:14.39 | NightHawkTheSane | like any library, it only exist sin memory once, so any mods that use it are accessing the exact same data |
04:14.47 | NightHawkTheSane | s/t sin/ts in/ |
04:15.21 | tjs | it would be awesome to see reverse dependancies for libs on the website |
04:15.33 | tjs | could see what else uses a given lib |
04:15.35 | tjs | etc |
04:15.53 | Orionshock | i think ace2 has that ability |
04:16.07 | KivinSan | If you mean, a list of addons require said library, that list could get *Quite* long |
04:16.18 | tjs | ah true |
04:16.28 | KivinSan | Something like the core ace libraries... |
04:16.42 | tjs | just wanted to see what else used threat |
04:16.54 | KivinSan | that i know of, PitBull does as well |
04:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, threat's probably the only useful reason for doing that |
04:17.53 | Orionshock | with the lib stub method it's rather easy iirc |
04:20.01 | Gngsk | So, jewelcrafter only gems. Do you have to be a JC to socket them into gear? |
04:20.16 | ScoTTie | nope |
04:20.27 | ScoTTie | oh, sorry yes :P |
04:20.43 | Gngsk | oh, so you can't like level JC up just to make a bunch of them and bank 'em for later |
04:20.49 | ulic | no I wouldn't think, they are just BoP, so you could drop the prof and socket later I'd imagine. |
04:20.58 | Gngsk | that's what I'm wondering |
04:21.08 | Gngsk | I'd love to make a bunch and bank 'em, drop JC for enchanting or something |
04:21.17 | Orionshock | total hax |
04:21.24 | ulic | they don't have any requirements like Master Swordsmith |
04:21.44 | Gngsk | I'd like to get some sorta confirmation, but I'm hesitant to post on forums |
04:22.06 | ulic | just put on your flame retardent clothes first. |
04:22.42 | Gngsk | I'd be more worried about getting it nerfed |
04:22.42 | Pkekyo| | how long does a server restart take? |
04:22.43 | Fisker- | jewelcrafter gems can only be equipped in items the jewelcrafter has |
04:22.47 | Fisker- | and boe items will become soulbound |
04:22.57 | Gngsk | right, but I'm saying |
04:23.10 | Gngsk | I make a bunch of them for myself, drop JC to put in my gear later on |
04:23.26 | tjs | zomg you know you play tomuch wow when you try to /camp in irc.. |
04:23.28 | Gngsk | basically what I'm getting at is, do you have to have 375 jc to socket them |
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04:24.06 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
04:24.51 | Fisker- | but the aspect of leveling a profession just to make those seems kind of silly |
04:25.03 | Gngsk | they're the best gems in the game |
04:25.18 | Fisker- | yeah |
04:25.30 | Fisker- | you can only use one of them though |
04:25.36 | Gngsk | I guess it's the same idea as leveling enchanting just to enchant your rings then dropping it |
04:25.38 | Fisker- | at a time of course |
04:25.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
04:25.43 | Gngsk | yeah |
04:26.06 | Gngsk | I'm contemplating doing one or the other |
04:26.06 | Pkekyo| | approx how long would a rolling server restart take? |
04:26.13 | Gngsk | I've been mining/skinning for forever and I've made a ton of gold |
04:26.14 | Fisker- | a couple of minutes |
04:26.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ideally, no more than 15m |
04:26.22 | Gngsk | time to blow a lot of it leveling a profession worth having |
04:27.18 | bigzero | or....you could pick up both and keep them |
04:27.32 | Fisker- | i require sleep |
04:27.39 | Fisker- | but i can't get :( |
04:27.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: what class? |
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04:32.47 | Pkekyo| | oh gee, thanks blizz... was in a heavily mob-populated area when the server was rebooted....instagibbed when I came online |
04:32.57 | Pkekyo| | bastards |
04:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | they totally did that specifically to screw with you too |
04:34.26 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
04:34.27 | Pkekyo| | I know |
04:34.36 | bigzero | would GetItemInfo() return "Weapon" for item type for other locales? anyone know? |
04:34.43 | Pkekyo| | bloody arsehats |
04:36.12 | Pkekyo| | why can't I put a macro on the pet bar? :< |
04:36.35 | Arrowmaster | bigzero: i think the GetItemInfo() returns are localized |
04:36.37 | Nargiddley | bigzero, those returns are localized. it would be different for other locales |
04:36.46 | bigzero | :-( |
04:39.26 | bigzero | hmm...how then my mod would not work for other locales the way it is written....and people have submitted translations, but never mentioned anything about it not working for them. odd |
04:40.39 | Pkekyo| | L M F A O |
04:40.55 | Pkekyo| | server restart killed my autobar....it won't collapse it's extensions :p |
04:41.10 | bigzero | Nargiddley, do you know this for sure, or are you just speculating... |
04:41.28 | Nargiddley | I use them in baggins for filtering |
04:41.32 | Pkekyo| | it's covering half my screen now |
04:41.56 | Nargiddley | the functions that get the ah categories match the returns |
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04:42.57 | bigzero | Nargiddley, thanks, that should help quite a bit |
04:44.57 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rcaf940008e 10./Mapping.lua: Might fix Carto waypoints not going away on objective completion, might just fuck up Carto support completely... not that I care either way :P |
04:45.21 | bigzero | hmmm...I wonder if I could just use ENCHSLOT_WEAPON... the comment in blizzard code says that it's just for enchanting filtering, but perhaps... |
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04:49.32 | bigzero | what about GetInventorySlotInfo("slotName"). that takes slot name as an argument. I wouldn't need to localize that one, would i? |
04:50.39 | dylanm | Don't believe so. |
04:51.31 | NightHawkTheSane | huh |
04:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
04:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | me having nature's guidance is the only thing that scrub flags |
04:52.09 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i have elemental focus, or don't have any threat reduction |
04:53.07 | bigzero | scrub needs adjusting imo |
04:54.13 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i imagine its still a work in progress |
04:54.51 | Pkekyo| | ~scrub |
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04:56.33 | Pkekyo| | yay, I has 0 armor |
04:56.46 | bigzero | ~seen slake |
04:56.49 | purl | slake <n=lethargi@216.254.115.46> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 725d 5h 49m 20s ago, saying: 'apt does download the deps'. |
04:56.58 | NightHawkTheSane | probably not the same slake |
04:57.02 | bigzero | yeah, lol |
04:57.16 | Pkekyo| | what's scrub? |
04:57.38 | bigzero | ~seen slake333 |
04:57.39 | purl | i haven't seen 'slake333', bigzero |
04:58.33 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, looks at people's specs and tells you if they're specced properly for raiding |
04:58.43 | bigzero | well, tries to anyway |
04:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
04:59.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ultimately it's just a set of rules that flags particular talents, or combinations of talents |
04:59.51 | silentium | scrub is funny, it complains about 0/49/12 prot paladins having "partial retribution spec" and flags them red |
04:59.54 | bigzero | hmm, slake didn't even leave an email :-( |
05:00.05 | NightHawkTheSane | silentium: yeah, like i said, work in progress i'm sure ;) |
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05:01.15 | bigzero | ~seen Lain |
05:01.17 | purl | lain <i=Saberjin@gateway/tor/x-7a70ea95594f79b4> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 110d 13h 6m 12s ago, saying: 'Do you mean you posted a link to a rickroll and they all fell for it?'. |
05:01.26 | bigzero | nope |
05:02.00 | silentium | NightHawkTheSane: sure it is :) I was just surprised and amused when I tried it yesterday out of curiosity |
05:02.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah :) |
05:02.43 | silentium | I wonder how many protadins already got a whisper from their raid leaders because of it :D |
05:03.11 | silentium | "man, you're supposed to tank, stop speccing dps!" |
05:05.17 | silentium | anyway, 6 am is late enough to go to bed, cya around |
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05:07.28 | Pkekyo| | g'nite silentium |
05:07.40 | Pkekyo| | zomg...found someone that's in the same timezone as me on irc...it's a miracle! |
05:08.18 | Herio | you guys should make out |
05:08.22 | Stan_ | it's 6:07am to be exact :p |
05:09.01 | Herio | what was the protadin talent you guys were talking about? |
05:09.33 | dylanm | Uh I think just that they have points in ret at all, no? Which is standard. |
05:10.12 | Herio | haha |
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05:10.24 | Herio | my pally is 0/46/15 |
05:10.58 | Herio | thinking 0/43/18 or something similar soon, though |
05:10.58 | tjs | anyone here familiar with decursive? I'm interested in borrowing MUFs for an addon idea I'd like to play with, is there a MUF lib? |
05:11.36 | dylanm | I wouldn't just dive into MUFs right away. |
05:11.49 | tjs | lol |
05:12.01 | dylanm | Had to. Apologies. |
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05:12.12 | dylanm | What does that stand for, praytell? |
05:12.13 | Pkekyo| | DINGALINGDINGDINGDINGDOOOOOOONG :D |
05:12.20 | Herio | micro unitframe? |
05:12.21 | tjs | mini unit frame |
05:12.27 | Herio | mini...? yeah |
05:12.54 | Herio | <insert word that means small and starts with m here> unit frame |
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05:13.47 | Xuerian | Well, see, I thought it had something to do with something small and inserting some into it... |
05:13.53 | Xuerian | The unit frame thing sortof changes it a bit |
05:13.55 | Xuerian | =\ |
05:14.08 | tjs | so I'm a programmer, but have never written an addon before, could I run my idea past you guys and get any advice that springs to mind? |
05:14.20 | dylanm | Go for it. |
05:14.20 | Xuerian | ~asktoask |
05:14.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
05:14.34 | tjs | purl: I asked for that ;) |
05:14.35 | purl | You asked for that ;)? |
05:14.40 | tjs | lol |
05:15.15 | Xuerian | ~comfort tjs |
05:15.15 | purl | There, there, tjs. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
05:15.23 | Xuerian | Shi loves you anyway. |
05:15.58 | tjs | so I'm a bear tank, I have trouble with stuff like H-SH when I pull 5+ mobs, have to pick up threat on all of them in a couple of seconds without breaking CC from slow arse mages who sheep on my doorstep |
05:16.12 | tjs | etc |
05:16.16 | Xuerian | Fire your mage :D |
05:16.47 | Herio | what is your proposed solution? |
05:16.56 | tjs | so my idea is little boxes, like the decursive MUFs, that use threat 1.0 lib. they represent the engaged mobs, and the colour represents your % threat |
05:17.26 | Herio | there's no "engaged mob" unit |
05:17.36 | tjs | red is bad, green is good, transparent is out of range, flashing is attacking someone else, symbols for CC etc |
05:17.44 | Herio | you've got targets and focuses, that's it in terms of units |
05:17.50 | tjs | hrm :/ |
05:17.57 | tjs | threat lib has a method.. |
05:17.57 | Herio | i mean enemies |
05:17.58 | tjs | sec |
05:18.01 | dylanm | I'd wait until 2.4 to even think about something like this :p |
05:18.11 | Herio | what are they changing in 2.4? |
05:18.16 | Stan_ | combat log |
05:18.16 | dylanm | Although |
05:18.17 | Herio | link me up, scotty! |
05:18.19 | tjs | EncounterMobs() |
05:18.27 | dylanm | Well, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference. |
05:18.35 | tjs | Returns the number of mobs in the current encounter as specified by the NPC core. Not generally needed by GUIs; may be needed by Class core |
05:19.04 | dylanm | Threat-1.0 attempts to identify different mobs. |
05:19.04 | Herio | you could display the data, but you cannot make a proper unitframe out of it |
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05:19.14 | tjs | ah :/ |
05:19.14 | Herio | you could however attach it to the name plate, perhaps? |
05:19.19 | dylanm | Right. I mean you couldn't target them upon a click. |
05:19.25 | dylanm | Not even in 2.4. |
05:19.30 | tjs | that sucks |
05:19.39 | Herio | NAME PLATE ZOMGARSH |
05:19.43 | dylanm | Nameplates have the range issue :p |
05:19.49 | Herio | not if you're a bear |
05:20.08 | tjs | what do bears have to do with nameplate range? |
05:20.09 | Herio | you're not going to worry about multimob agro when you're out of nameplate range of the mob |
05:20.22 | tjs | true |
05:20.28 | Xuerian | tjs: You could modify the nameplate in some superficial way, or show alerts with names, or list the mobs you don't have aggro on... but no unit frames |
05:20.33 | Gnarfoz | duplicate names mess up the entire concept, anyway, unless we get unique IDs |
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05:20.50 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Coming, sortof, in 2.4 |
05:21.07 | dylanm_ | I guess I don't really know how good Threat is at separating mobs. We don't use a threatmeter. |
05:21.10 | Gnarfoz | maybe-ish, etc. pending full change log |
05:21.20 | tjs | Xuerian: I cant iterate mobs in the area and match names or some such to get unit frames? |
05:21.24 | Xuerian | dylanm: It's no better than how different the names are |
05:21.29 | Gnarfoz | dylanm_: easy: if it has the same name, it can't |
05:21.55 | Herio | in order to have a proper (secure) unit frame, you need an associated unit |
05:22.00 | Herio | you can't just make those up |
05:22.06 | tjs | Xuerian: I saw a hunter-bot farming badlands once and it was able to target mobs somehow |
05:22.12 | Xuerian | tjs: Secure unit frames and units themselves limit this. You can't modify unitframes in combat in any way other than superficially, and you can't (correct me if I'm wrong) have a unitframe for any non-unit (eg, target, mouseover, party1target, playertarget, or *focus*) |
05:22.21 | Herio | tjs: it was bot |
05:22.23 | Xuerian | tjs: Bots are hacks, they don't have to obey secure frame rules |
05:22.28 | tjs | ah |
05:22.38 | Xuerian | script bots were fixed ehhhh around 1.2 |
05:22.45 | dylanm_ | You're just spoofing keypresses. That's a whole other ballgame. |
05:22.57 | Xuerian | dylanm_: Far from it |
05:23.14 | tjs | so my whole mod idea is shot down in flames ;) |
05:23.16 | Gnarfoz | direct memory access etc, no need to spoof anything |
05:23.21 | dylanm_ | Ah. |
05:23.30 | tjs | ah well, better now than when its half written |
05:23.32 | dylanm_ | I don't fiddle with such things. |
05:23.35 | Xuerian | tjs: no, but you can't *interact* directly with any of your indicators |
05:23.50 | dylanm_ | But having indicators is fun. Everyone agrees that bars = love. |
05:23.52 | Xuerian | It's like the old PerfectTargets mod |
05:23.57 | Xuerian | It still works... |
05:24.02 | Xuerian | You just can't target with it |
05:25.17 | Xuerian | Modifying nameplates as to color them specially if you don't have aggro, or something like that, would be your best bet. Even then, it would be limited to similarly named mobs until 2.4 at least |
05:25.21 | dylanm_ | Good to know that Threat only goes as far as names. I know there are other things you could try and sync on but that would be a crap-ton of work. |
05:25.32 | Pkekyo| | is it possible to quest your way to Timbermaw neutral? |
05:25.53 | Stan_ | no |
05:25.54 | Xuerian | Pkekyo|: Unfriendly through the basic felwood quests, but not neutral through just them |
05:26.03 | dylanm_ | Gonna be interesting when the ids come. |
05:26.09 | Stan_ | unfriendly is enough |
05:26.13 | Stan_ | they wont attack you |
05:26.24 | Pkekyo| | yeah, but I wanna hand in those bloody ritual totem quests |
05:26.28 | Pkekyo| | gotta be neutral to do that |
05:26.32 | dylanm_ | You want a LOT of things. |
05:26.37 | Stan_ | lol Pkekyo| |
05:26.46 | Stan_ | i STILL have them |
05:26.47 | Xuerian | Since blizz is introducing a built-in threat meter, it's guaranteed we'll be able to reliably track threat for all engaged targets separately |
05:26.50 | tjs | is it possible to detatch nameplates from above peoples heads and put them in a nice list ? |
05:26.51 | Stan_ | and never started the quests |
05:26.58 | Pkekyo| | 2140/3000 unfriendly |
05:27.02 | Xuerian | tjs: Sure. You can't interact with them then. |
05:27.06 | Pkekyo| | so I need 860 rep from quests |
05:27.06 | Xuerian | Secure frames. |
05:27.09 | bigzero | Xinhuan, Blizzard threat meter? |
05:27.09 | tjs | argh |
05:27.10 | Stan_ | Xuerian: there won't be a threat meter... |
05:27.17 | Antiarc | In WotLK there will |
05:27.23 | Stan_ | o rly? |
05:27.24 | dylanm_ | Uh I thought it was more of a "you have aggro kinda" thing. |
05:27.24 | kenlyric | Xuerian: you have what I would optimistically call a "hopeful" expectation of blizzard' abilities... |
05:27.27 | Xuerian | yes rly. |
05:27.33 | Stan_ | link? |
05:27.40 | Xuerian | meh sec |
05:27.44 | bigzero | wanna see wanna see |
05:27.49 | kenlyric | welcome to blizzcon? |
05:27.53 | kenlyric | jesus |
05:27.53 | Xuerian | PATIENCE YOUNG FUZZMUFFINS |
05:28.11 | Pkekyo| | water elementals as a frostmage is a fucking pain :< |
05:28.15 | Xuerian | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111543053&sid=1 |
05:28.19 | Xuerian | read and be enlightened |
05:28.25 | bigzero | what?? Pkekyo|...quit mage now |
05:28.38 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: whyes? |
05:28.53 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Like hell I'm going to rely on their built-in solution. However, what they have to do to implement something in the default ui does give me hope |
05:29.14 | Xuerian | btw: 1.5.2Q |
05:29.20 | Xuerian | ctrl-f that |
05:29.27 | dylanm_ | Holy damn that's a good thread. |
05:29.42 | dylanm_ | Curse you EU forums |
05:29.55 | tjs | I like how blizz cant come up with orig UI ideas, they just cherry pick the most popular addons and rewrite them.. poorly |
05:29.59 | bigzero | Pkekyo|, water ele is awesome |
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05:30.25 | dylanm_ | I don't know. A lot of the recent ui changes have been just great. |
05:30.39 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: I meant fighting water elementals as a frostmage >.< |
05:30.52 | bigzero | oh, lol |
05:30.54 | Xuerian | tjs: Why do you care? It helps the retards who refuse to use addons be a useful part of groups, and *you* can still use the real addons. |
05:30.57 | dylanm_ | Some of them were lifted from the community, surely. |
05:30.58 | bigzero | well, then keep going |
05:31.20 | tjs | Xuerian: good point |
05:31.47 | bigzero | is it just me of Blizzard's in-game chat kinda failed? |
05:31.54 | bigzero | voice chat* |
05:31.59 | Xuerian | bigzero: Not really |
05:32.04 | dylanm_ | Hell if I've even used that outside of testing. |
05:32.05 | kenlyric | they don't necessarily rewrite them poorly, they just write them limited. |
05:32.24 | kenlyric | and for the vast majority of folks they're "good enough" |
05:32.35 | Xuerian | kenlyric has a point, it's not always poorly (Though we have fun coding examples in the default ui...), but simple and useful, not fully featured |
05:32.41 | dylanm_ | I like the new tracking menu just fine. |
05:32.47 | kenlyric | krusty brand motto: It's not just good. it's good enough. |
05:32.49 | tjs | its really quiet, noone uses it, vent still wins imo, and 9 out of 10 'girls' claim their mic is busted anyway oO |
05:32.57 | Shirik|zZz | rofl |
05:32.58 | Xuerian | The new tracking menu, combined with a mod such as EBB, is just brilliant, for example. |
05:33.08 | bigzero | tjs, lol |
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05:33.10 | Mudkipz | tjs o rly |
05:33.22 | Xuerian | Most of the girls I know just skip the broken part and say, loosely translated, fuck you nerds |
05:33.23 | dylanm_ | Believe me, if you gave the average default-ui user one of your common waterfall configs they would lose it. |
05:33.37 | tjs | girls was in quotes |
05:33.37 | Shirik | I haven't even activated Blizzard's chat |
05:33.38 | Xuerian | dylanm: And that's better than the old (and current) waterfall menus |
05:33.47 | Shirik | I don't want to hear all the little kiddies |
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05:33.54 | Xuerian | tjs: Bahahahaha good point |
05:33.57 | kenlyric | and the threat/mob id stuff has additional benefits, so even if their threat meter sucks, the data the provide will be useful. |
05:34.02 | Xuerian | Shirik: I find that's the group that uses it most, the "Halo" group |
05:34.10 | Xuerian | kenlyric: That was my point earlier :) |
05:34.19 | Mudkipz | has anyone edited a prs file before? |
05:34.21 | dylanm_ | Xuerian: I'm saying that there's a reason that their additions are viewed by people in here as limited. |
05:34.33 | kenlyric | Xuerian: provided, of course, they know what data they're providing. |
05:34.35 | Xuerian | dylanm_: Agreed |
05:34.42 | Pkekyo| | so basicly, I've got to grind 860 Timbermaw by killing 86 of those deadwood fuckers? |
05:34.43 | kenlyric | they might not know how threat works. |
05:34.50 | Pkekyo| | gah, I hate mindless grinding :< |
05:34.51 | Xuerian | kenlyric: =O |
05:34.55 | Xuerian | kenlyric: lolz. |
05:35.00 | Xuerian | Pkekyo|: Quit wow. |
05:35.05 | kenlyric | why |
05:35.07 | kenlyric | the |
05:35.08 | kenlyric | absolute |
05:35.10 | kenlyric | fuck |
05:35.13 | Xuerian | 0_o |
05:35.16 | kenlyric | are you grinding fucking fubolgs? |
05:35.17 | dylanm_ | Xuerian: And that it's intentional. Perhaps no one was contesting that but hell... I'm just _talking_ :p |
05:35.39 | kenlyric | fubolgs? |
05:35.43 | Xuerian | dylanm_: I can't argue that, I tend to be the volatile soapbox person when everyone agrees too :p |
05:35.45 | kenlyric | that needs to be a mod name |
05:36.01 | Xuerian | kenlyric: How the hell did you type that 0_o |
05:36.11 | kenlyric | forgot the r? |
05:36.19 | Xuerian | fu[r]b[lo]gs |
05:36.26 | Pkekyo| | Xuerian: nah...the quests give the illusion that the grind is to some extent intelligent |
05:36.33 | Shirik | [r] ? |
05:36.40 | kenlyric | furbolg. I forgot the r |
05:36.44 | kenlyric | it's not rocket surgery. |
05:36.44 | Shirik | Most worthless regex ever :P |
05:36.47 | Xuerian | The r was missing in and the ol reversed |
05:36.50 | Xuerian | not regex =O |
05:36.55 | Shirik | oh |
05:36.58 | Xuerian | as in writing |
05:37.06 | Xuerian | "intended meaning" |
05:37.08 | Xuerian | er. |
05:37.09 | Xuerian | whatever. |
05:37.10 | kenlyric | I wrote fubolg. the ol isn't reversed. |
05:37.17 | kenlyric | it's not a furblog |
05:37.28 | Xuerian | zomg, they're actually furbolgs? |
05:37.30 | bigzero | http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1730wow?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=bundlestab |
05:37.33 | kenlyric | yes? |
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05:37.49 | dylanm_ | kenlyric: I think I'll steal "rocket surgery" as a phrase. |
05:37.53 | Shirik | Xuerian: Furbolg |
05:37.54 | kenlyric | um... |
05:37.57 | kenlyric | I didn't make it up. |
05:38.02 | Xuerian | Shirik: SHHH STILL CHECKING |
05:38.04 | dylanm_ | Doesn't matter. |
05:38.17 | Shirik | ~dict furbolg |
05:38.21 | Shirik | boo |
05:38.21 | Shirik | fail |
05:38.24 | Pkekyo| | kenlyricare you grinding fucking fubolgs? <---- trying to get to neutral so I can hand in the bloody ritual totems |
05:38.36 | kenlyric | just throw them away? |
05:38.47 | Xuerian | bigzero: Ripoff. |
05:38.49 | kenlyric | unless there's some recipe you want. |
05:38.56 | dylanm_ | People steal stereos from people who did not invent stereos like all the time and the government is cool with it. |
05:38.56 | Pkekyo| | done that too many times allready, wanna try the bloody quests for once :p |
05:38.57 | kenlyric | or you're one of those weirdos. |
05:39.05 | kenlyric | exalted w/ all |
05:39.08 | Xuerian | [censored] |
05:39.20 | Xuerian | Since when was furblog changed to furbolg >.> |
05:39.33 | Xuerian | ~denial |
05:39.34 | purl | Denial is not a river in Egypt. |
05:39.35 | bigzero | i think it was always furbolg |
05:39.45 | Pkekyo| | nah, not exalted |
05:39.59 | Pkekyo| | though the enchanting formulas are tempting |
05:40.22 | bigzero | only need revered..or was it honored? |
05:40.25 | kenlyric | I got my first priest to revered when they broke group rep for one patch. |
05:40.44 | kenlyric | so you could get rep in a 40 man raid from pretty much anywhere in felwood. |
05:40.44 | bigzero | but they are useless now except for twinks |
05:40.50 | kenlyric | afk in the lake for 3000 rep |
05:41.09 | kenlyric | my last two toons just went to unfriendly. |
05:41.26 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: revered to get both of them |
05:42.43 | bigzero | yeah, I'm one of those exaulted w/ all people btw...had to get my hands on the Defender of the Timbermaw |
05:42.50 | Pkekyo| | how much do you think you could sell your account for, if you had 10 chars of different classes on all enEU servers? O.o |
05:43.08 | Pkekyo| | the trinket is tempting, but I can't be arsed :p |
05:43.16 | Gnarfoz | err |
05:43.21 | bigzero | 10 chars on all servers? |
05:43.38 | Gnarfoz | for someone who is all about 'exalted w/ all' how can you misspell exalted |
05:43.40 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
05:44.00 | bigzero | 'cause I'm not quite there yet :-P |
05:44.51 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: yeah, 10 chars on all servers :p |
05:45.05 | Gnarfoz | that's like... a total of 10 chars? |
05:45.08 | bigzero | what does that mean? |
05:45.21 | bigzero | why "on all servers" then? |
05:45.34 | Gnarfoz | if you're trying to say '10 chars on each EU server' |
05:45.39 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
05:45.46 | Gnarfoz | then you have been fooled, because the maximum is 50 chars per account, IIRC |
05:45.55 | Pkekyo| | doh |
05:45.56 | Pkekyo| | shame |
05:45.58 | bigzero | lol |
05:46.29 | bigzero | and even if there was no limit, then that's a ton of characters |
05:46.36 | Pkekyo| | I have great economical ambitions, ok? stop laughing at me! :p |
05:47.09 | bigzero | though you didn't specify their lvl, so I'd say possible |
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05:49.42 | bigzero | anyone know if ItemEquipLoc returned by GetItemInfo is different for other locales? |
05:50.19 | bigzero | INVTYPE_2HWEAPON, etc. |
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05:51.54 | Arrowmaster | those are not localized afaik |
05:52.59 | Pkekyo| | bigzero: that'd be lvl 70s |
05:54.18 | bigzero | Arrowmaster, yeah, seems like those are actually global variable names, which in turn evaluate to localized strings |
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06:07.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah they are |
06:07.47 | Arrowmaster | used to be not all were global variables though |
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06:18.57 | Pkekyo| | is there an addon that autoequips riding crop/carrot on a stick and whatever when you mount up? |
06:19.16 | Codayus | Yes. |
06:19.25 | Codayus | MountMe |
06:19.36 | KivinSan | Outfitter does; Probably the other duplicate addons as well |
06:22.37 | Pkekyo| | getting sick of riding around in my dps gear and fighting in my riding gear :p |
06:24.31 | KivinSan | Just keep in mind that changing trinkets causes cooldown |
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06:24.54 | KivinSan | And doesn't work if you're in combat, iirc |
06:25.01 | Codayus | Yes. |
06:28.19 | Pkekyo| | I only wear passive trinkets anyways :) |
06:28.29 | bigzero | closet gnome does it oo |
06:28.31 | bigzero | too* |
06:28.46 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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06:31.56 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, the closet gnome descriptions are too bloody cryptic |
06:31.59 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin Zhinjio |
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06:33.30 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin newguy |
06:34.52 | MrCrispy | turned on to wowhead the by a guildie |
06:35.30 | MrCrispy | tired sorry |
06:38.25 | Pkekyo| | huh? |
06:38.46 | Pkekyo| | you're not making any sense |
06:39.09 | KivinSan | o.o |
06:39.41 | Pkekyo| | - look who's talking :p |
06:40.11 | MrCrispy | im tired is why im not makin any sense is what i meant |
06:42.21 | Pkekyo| | same goes for me lol |
06:45.48 | Pkekyo| | can you do /who queries for subzones, or only zones? |
06:46.26 | Herio | zones |
06:46.37 | Megalon | add z="zonename" to the query |
06:46.47 | Megalon | or was it z-"..." ? |
06:46.52 | Herio | i think you can obtain subzone info if you have a unit |
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06:47.05 | Herio | pretty sure it was z-"name" |
06:47.38 | Herio | i guess it depends on your definition of "subzone" =P |
06:49.35 | Pkekyo| | Herio: zone = Blade's Edge Mountains.... Subzone = Ogri'la |
06:51.04 | bigzero | can I change my locale for AceLocale? |
06:51.28 | KivinSan | It chooses the locale based on GetLocale() |
06:52.25 | bigzero | anyone with a chinese version of WoW? zhCN or chTW? |
06:52.40 | bigzero | zhTW* |
06:53.48 | KivinSan | I don't know much about hooks, but it seems to me you might be able to hook GetLocale and return a spoofed value... though I have no idea what the implications of that would be |
06:54.17 | KivinSan | I"m pretty sure the US/EU clients aren't equipped to handle asian characters |
06:54.35 | bigzero | i might have to find out |
06:55.13 | KivinSan | If I type Japanese into WoW, it starts doing some really weird shit |
06:56.13 | haste | KivinSan: they are |
06:56.36 | haste | KivinSan: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_121407_140234.png |
06:57.13 | KivinSan | Care to explain why mine wont accept japanese input? |
06:57.31 | Pkekyo| | did blizz do a russian localization yet? |
06:57.33 | haste | applocale maybe? I run WoW under Linux also tho' :p |
06:57.42 | KivinSan | My edit boxes lock up if i try typing anything with IME active |
06:57.56 | Orionshock | IME? |
06:58.17 | haste | input method editor |
06:58.37 | KivinSan | The software used for typing foreign characters on a standard keyboard |
06:58.37 | Pkekyo| | err? |
06:59.39 | Pkekyo| | oh |
07:00.16 | Pkekyo| | you sure it isn't conflicting with the IME software, and not the japanese characters themselves? |
07:00.32 | KivinSan | The only difference between an asian keyboard an an american one is usually about 4 keys. IME is what transliterates what you type in real-time |
07:00.45 | KivinSan | *shrug* japanese works perfectly fine in everything else |
07:00.45 | haste | the IME is also the same |
07:00.52 | KivinSan | ‚±‚ñ‚É‚¿‚Í` |
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07:01.02 | haste | shift_jis as utf-8 == bad idea |
07:01.40 | KivinSan | I'm led to believe this chat is utf8 and if IME is giving me valid text here, it should work in wow |
07:02.50 | Pkekyo| | I'm just getting alot of huge squares :< |
07:03.02 | KivinSan | because you don't have the stuff installed |
07:03.07 | KivinSan | fonts and stuff |
07:03.46 | haste | KivinSan: http://beverpung.net/images/2008-01-02-080304_338x94_scrot.png |
07:03.57 | KivinSan | yep |
07:05.19 | Orionshock | can you lvl weapon skill off immune mobs? |
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07:05.27 | Orionshock | i guess you can |
07:06.03 | KivinSan | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2595/jpircyr0.jpg <- works fine over here |
07:06.36 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r57792 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
07:06.37 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
07:06.37 | CIA-8 | - Gas, Tradeskill: updated zhTW localization |
07:06.58 | haste | I'm going to blame your setup :p |
07:06.59 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: what mobs are you talking about? |
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07:07.08 | haste | you are the only one I'm seeing mojibake from at least |
07:07.54 | KivinSan | mojibake? |
07:08.18 | haste | garbage |
07:08.39 | KivinSan | of course you're going to see garbage characters if you don't have east asian support installed |
07:09.10 | haste | I do have that, how the hell would I be able to type in WoW if not? |
07:09.25 | KivinSan | You can type Japanese in WoW? |
07:09.33 | haste | yes |
07:09.59 | Orionshock | Pkekyo|: well there are the ones by the portal in badlands |
07:10.59 | KivinSan | Out of curiosty, care to type something in IRC in Japanese and i'll see if i get, uhh, mojibake... |
07:11.41 | Orionshock | Pkekyo|: then there are the ones that are fully immune and don't attack you in SMV |
07:11.59 | Orionshock | got 13 points in 6 |
07:12.02 | Orionshock | 6 mins |
07:12.06 | Pkekyo| | the ones in badlands are used to train weapon skill by 90% of the warrior community |
07:12.12 | Pkekyo| | wear int gear :p |
07:12.59 | haste | KivinSan: ãŠã¯ã‚ˆã† |
07:13.01 | Orionshock | im a druid |
07:13.28 | KivinSan | ‚¨‚͂悤‚²‚´‚¢‚Ü‚·AƒnƒXƒe‚³‚ñBBB |
07:13.37 | KivinSan | D: wonder why i can see yours, but you can't see mine |
07:14.29 | bigzero | I can see haste's too...you're is a bunch of giberish |
07:14.44 | bigzero | your's*....wth...i need sleep |
07:14.46 | KivinSan | very bizarre |
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07:14.57 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: wtf do you want with weapon skill as a druid? |
07:15.37 | bigzero | meleeing is ftw while healing |
07:16.30 | Orionshock | `was told a long time ago it helped, even if it dosn't - im bored |
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07:19.27 | Pkekyo| | that's sad, Orionshock...go farm gold |
07:19.35 | Orionshock | blah |
07:22.22 | Orionshock | Pkekyo|: you know i've never seen anything that says that wep skill has no impact in form, excpt from ppl saying so |
07:24.36 | Pkekyo| | do you use your weapon in form? |
07:25.03 | Pkekyo| | weapon skill only increases your chance to hit with [specified weapon].... you don't physically use your weapon in forms |
07:27.05 | bigzero | I think it says so on wowwiki too...not that it's a very reliable source, but still |
07:27.59 | Pkekyo| | it's not "increases your chance to hit when [specified weapon] is equipped", it's "increases your chance to hit with [specified weapon]".... |
07:29.52 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57793 10GlowFoSho/ (8 files): |
07:29.52 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
07:29.52 | CIA-8 | - Everything should be localizeable now |
07:29.52 | CIA-8 | - Added enchant-over-chat functionality (still somewhat primitive, hope to improve) |
07:31.03 | bigzero | lf someone in china to test GlowFoSho...50g |
07:32.19 | Pkekyo| | anyone living in china could get 50g faster than that'd take anyways :p |
07:33.01 | Orionshock | meh Pkekyo| ... i'm lvling it anyway |
07:33.21 | Orionshock | @ 332 now |
07:33.28 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
07:33.29 | Pkekyo| | gl hf |
07:33.47 | Orionshock | been going for about 30mins, started at 309 |
07:34.26 | Orionshock | 3.0+ weapon speed |
07:35.15 | bigzero | might want to get a faster weapon |
07:35.25 | Orionshock | ... don't have one on hand :D |
07:36.04 | Orionshock | btw bigzero i know your pain with trying to get testers... i'v got a beta mod that i can't find anyone to test out :( |
07:36.59 | Pkekyo| | lmao Orionshock, masochist! |
07:38.03 | Killmore | Orionshock: what do you want me to test ? |
07:38.17 | bigzero | Orionshock, I figured I'll release it and then let people complain |
07:38.36 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/files/GuildCraft.zip |
07:38.56 | Killmore | Orionshock: omg keylogger! |
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07:38.59 | Orionshock | it's a synch addon so you'll need some guildies to do it too |
07:39.13 | Orionshock | .. well it's on the svn too @ googlecode, :P |
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07:39.40 | Killmore | Orionshock: im joking :P |
07:41.55 | Pkekyo| | well, he didn't deny it is a keylogger :p |
07:42.07 | Killmore | haha |
07:43.53 | Zhinjio | is there a function that returns the largest integer key from a table, or do I have to go iterate over it? |
07:43.58 | Zhinjio | they aren't sequential |
07:44.20 | Zhinjio | Orionshock, did I see GroupCalendar on your site as well? |
07:44.25 | Zhinjio | I thought someone else maintained that |
07:44.34 | Orionshock | i was messing with it |
07:44.38 | Zhinjio | k |
07:44.40 | Pkekyo| | ~svn |
07:44.41 | purl | Subversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/. |
07:44.48 | xt | ~git |
07:45.30 | Zhinjio | anyone know the answer to my question about table keys? |
07:45.47 | Pkekyo| | no |
07:45.52 | Pkekyo| | noone in the entire world does |
07:46.21 | Pkekyo| | bah, I fucking hate roaming named mobs |
07:46.40 | Orionshock | humm.... tbl[#tbl-1] ? |
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07:46.56 | Nargiddley | if they arent sequential you have to do it yourself |
07:47.10 | cladhaire | no |
07:47.11 | Zhinjio | yeah, non-sequential. ok. |
07:47.12 | exor|zzz | or like, keep track of it in the table? :P |
07:47.13 | cladhaire | table.maxn |
07:47.26 | Orionshock | index tables must be in sequential order other wise it's a dict table? |
07:47.28 | mathuin | Anyone know how to make a Baggins rule that uses PTSet wildcards? |
07:47.31 | Pkekyo| | been hunting for this bloody polar bear in winterspring for an hour now |
07:47.32 | cladhaire | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5, [129] = true}; print(table.maxn(t) |
07:47.34 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
07:47.35 | Orionshock | i thought the auto adjusted? |
07:47.51 | Nargiddley | mathuin, wildcard how ? |
07:48.03 | cladhaire | either way |
07:48.13 | cladhaire | table.maxn returns the highest integer key in the table |
07:48.17 | mathuin | I want to modify the current TrashEquip rule to exempt all crafted items and all reputation rewards. |
07:48.17 | cladhaire | but it iterates to find it. |
07:48.29 | mathuin | I don't want to have to list each possible craft or reputation individually. |
07:48.46 | Zhinjio | alright... um... what if my table looks like this... table = { ["32791"] = {...}, ["84932"] = {...}, ... } |
07:48.48 | mathuin | The ItemType rule type supports wildcards. |
07:48.54 | Zhinjio | will it still work? |
07:49.01 | Nargiddley | the pt set doesnt support them |
07:49.07 | mathuin | "NOT ItemType - Quest:*" for example. |
07:49.20 | Nargiddley | thats not a wildcard, thats just itemtype quest |
07:49.28 | Nargiddley | with no check on subtype |
07:49.41 | mathuin | Is there a similar feature with ptset? |
07:49.46 | Nargiddley | dont you just want the Rep reward set ? |
07:50.20 | cladhaire | Zhinjio: those aren't integer keys |
07:50.22 | cladhaire | those are string keys |
07:50.24 | cladhaire | so no |
07:50.25 | Orionshock | ya Killmore your gonna need to get some guildies to help you test, it's a synch'ing type mod only useful in large groups |
07:50.28 | mathuin | Nargiddley: that has the same effect. |
07:51.05 | Nargiddley | you dont have to pick the most specific set, a set includes all its child sets |
07:51.17 | Zhinjio | yeah, indeed. |
07:51.42 | mathuin | Excellent. Out of curiosity, is there an easy way to identify what set or sets a particular item may be in? |
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07:52.17 | Nargiddley | that broke with the move to PT3.1, so not atm |
07:52.31 | mathuin | Is there a not-easy way, i.e., is there a lua file I can troll? |
07:53.29 | Nargiddley | I dont think the pt sets are compressed anymore, searching for the itemid in those would do it |
07:53.45 | mathuin | Okay, I need to find out the itemid for the particular item. |
07:53.55 | Nargiddley | alt-right click it in baggins |
07:55.19 | mathuin | Right on. You've been very helpful. Thanks! |
07:55.50 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r57794 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_zhCN.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate |
08:01.04 | Orionshock | Killmore: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/files/GuildCraft.zip |
08:01.11 | Killmore | k |
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08:02.32 | testify | Are there any ace addons similar to outfitter or itemrack? |
08:02.48 | durcyn | ClosetGnome. |
08:02.49 | Zhinjio | the beginnings of the sync code are started. I can't turn back now. *grin* |
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08:04.14 | Orionshock | eh? |
08:04.29 | testify | Thanks durcyn, I just found out how long it's been since an itemrack release and I figured I'd better find something else quick |
08:06.21 | Killmore | Orionshock: same error |
08:06.26 | Orionshock | bull |
08:08.37 | Orionshock | kk |
08:08.37 | Orionshock | try now :P |
08:08.37 | durcyn | bigzero: er, you might want to actually commit the locale files for GlowFoSho. |
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08:10.19 | Zhinjio | OMG NOES: [2008/01/02 01:08:50-2367-x1]: SKG-502\SKG_UtilityFunctions.lua:666: unfinished string near '" )' |
08:10.24 | Zhinjio | line 666.... I'm doomed. |
08:13.53 | Zhinjio | what do y'all like to listen to while coding. |
08:13.58 | Zhinjio | I'm getting tired of my current playlist |
08:15.17 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57795 10GlowFoSho/locales/ (5 files): |
08:15.18 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
08:15.18 | CIA-8 | - and here are the missing locales |
08:15.52 | bigzero | durcyn, good idea...thanks |
08:16.29 | exor674 | but, you mean SVN can't just magicly read files off the developers computer |
08:16.37 | exor674 | we actally have to COMMIT them? |
08:17.55 | bigzero | yeah, that's what i call crappy software |
08:20.34 | Shadowed | Anyone recall the link to Magictrick that was postedon fileplanet a few days ago |
08:20.40 | bigzero | any trick to downing the first boss in heroic mana tombs? |
08:20.52 | Shadowed | kill him |
08:20.53 | Shadowed | before you die |
08:21.04 | bigzero | didn't MagicTrick get uploaded to ace svn? |
08:21.24 | Shadowed | uh |
08:21.25 | Shadowed | maybe |
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08:21.58 | bigzero | perhaps not yet...the author was on today saying that he's stopping development of that and something else |
08:22.13 | bigzero | and said he would commit to ace svn for someone to pick it up |
08:22.18 | Shadowed | it's not in trunk |
08:22.26 | bigzero | maybe he didn't do it yet |
08:23.12 | Shadowed | hrm i seem to be missing that log with the fileplanet url |
08:23.26 | Zhinjio | hmm |
08:23.32 | Shadowed | ~log |
08:23.33 | purl | log is probably as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
08:23.35 | bigzero | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10641.0 |
08:23.36 | Shadowed | stupid bot |
08:23.38 | Shadowed | READ MY MIND |
08:23.39 | Shadowed | ~weblog |
08:23.39 | purl | Logfile toolkit for Python. URL: http://mnot.cbd.net.au//scripting/python/WebLog/ |
08:23.39 | testify | ok here's a question: With closetgnome_mount can you revert to the previous set if you dismount from a spellcast? |
08:23.49 | Shadowed | ~weblogs |
08:23.58 | bigzero | Shadowed, look at that forum post |
08:24.22 | Arrowmaster | ~logs |
08:24.23 | purl | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
08:24.40 | Arrowmaster | is that what you were looking for? |
08:24.43 | evl | How do I set the bounds of a FontString? |
08:25.27 | Shadowed | ah there we go |
08:28.49 | Pernicius | how long does in normaly take to get an SVN account? |
08:29.29 | Antiarc | ...... |
08:29.30 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168519728&sid=1 |
08:29.33 | Antiarc | *facepalm* |
08:30.17 | Shadowed | 1-3 days |
08:30.44 | Shadowed | hum |
08:30.49 | Shadowed | I wonder if you can track enemies putting down totems |
08:30.55 | Pernicius | hmm ... i hope it takes so long couse och christmas/new year |
08:31.18 | Pernicius | *cause of |
08:32.19 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: what'd you say, afflicted or affliction! |
08:32.40 | Xinhuan | Afflicted heh |
08:33.47 | Xinhuan | Shadowed, he posted on wowace general addons forums after i told him to |
08:33.50 | Shadowed | yea |
08:33.53 | Shadowed | I saw that |
08:34.09 | Shadowed | I'm just going to steal MagicTrick and build off of that, saves me having to do a lot of research |
08:35.01 | Shadowed | his code is easy enough to understand, not that hard to rip things out |
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08:36.57 | evl | Antiarc: needs less binary distribution? :P |
08:39.41 | Xinhuan | lol Antiarc |
08:39.45 | Xinhuan | go download a copy now |
08:39.48 | Antiarc | I just downloaded it |
08:39.50 | Xinhuan | and see if the trojan exists |
08:39.52 | Antiarc | And took it apart |
08:39.54 | Antiarc | I didn't see one |
08:40.00 | Antiarc | But it's possible the patcher downloads it or something |
08:40.08 | Antiarc | I'll fire up my VM |
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08:49.04 | Antiarc | So |
08:49.06 | Antiarc | I'm writing a new mod |
08:49.14 | Antiarc | Called Buff UpTime Tracker System |
08:49.49 | bigzero | nice change in 2.4 for locks: It will be possible to summon people who are outside an instance from inside an instance. This change will come in content patch 2.4. |
08:50.11 | Pernicius | nice |
08:50.42 | Camma | very nice, I thoug the disabled this in ZA because of exploting |
08:51.25 | Pernicius | i think thy will only enable this in non-raid instaces |
08:52.37 | evl | It will probably involve something like: you can only summon someone that is either saved to the instance or only if nobody else is saved in the instance. |
08:52.40 | Camma | that does'nt realy make sence. I hardly remember any 5men ist. where people did drop out |
08:53.13 | evl | But yeah, that would be silly because you couldn't get replacements :P |
08:53.31 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Tired of paladins not rebuffing their bloody blessings, eh?! |
08:53.45 | Antiarc | Kalroth: Wanting to check SnD/Blade Flurry uptime vs combat uptime for my rogues |
08:53.58 | Kalroth | Oh |
08:54.13 | Kalroth | That's boring though, you can't use that to flame healers with. |
08:54.22 | Antiarc | I wrote Healcap to flame healers |
08:54.28 | Antiarc | But that was al ong time ago |
08:55.00 | Camma | hmm I only got flamed for not beaing dead as a hunter, wile wiping |
08:55.14 | Kalroth | All huntards can fsck off! |
08:55.21 | Health | Shut up Kalroth |
08:55.24 | Killmore | haha |
08:55.32 | Kalroth | And shitty priests like Health! |
08:55.41 | Health | I'm a fucking druid too |
08:55.46 | Zhinjio | YAY! My hasning function works perfectly. |
08:55.51 | Kalroth | That doesn't make you less cheesy! |
08:55.56 | Health | :D |
08:56.49 | Camma | I need the hunter to keep my money in the +, for some crap reason my (deff) Warrior normaly bites the dust first |
08:57.51 | evl | Antiarc: won't snd/bf tracking be a bit hard? what if you switch targets or have to position yourself so you don't get the bf effect etc? |
08:58.04 | Antiarc | I'm just planning on watching for aura changes |
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08:58.32 | evl | what's its purpose exactly? :P |
08:58.36 | evl | Can't this be done with WWS |
08:59.29 | Xinhuan | not everyone uses wws |
08:59.32 | Xinhuan | or wants to use wws |
08:59.40 | Xinhuan | its overkill for small simple things |
08:59.47 | Xinhuan | like checking how many times your trinket procced |
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09:00.03 | Antiarc | We use WWS, and I'm not sure it can track uptime |
09:00.14 | evl | Yeah, you're right it doesn't :/ |
09:00.22 | Antiarc | It tracks the number of times you gain the buff |
09:00.26 | Antiarc | But that doesn't count refreshes |
09:00.44 | Xinhuan | because it can't ;d |
09:00.52 | Antiarc | I know |
09:00.58 | evl | But I mean effective SnD usage is really low compared to how often it's actually effective, say when you kill a trash mob and use the remainder cp for a new snd you might run for 5+ seconds before you reach the next add |
09:01.15 | Antiarc | I'm not looking for the ultimate theorycrafting addon here |
09:01.20 | Antiarc | I just want an uptime percentage |
09:01.41 | evl | can't you just check if snd is active everytime you damage an opponent? |
09:01.46 | Antiarc | All things being held equal, a rogue with a lower SnD uptime in the raid needs work |
09:01.55 | Antiarc | evl: I'm meaning all rogues in the raid, not just myself |
09:01.58 | evl | aha |
09:02.08 | evl | a raiding rogue with less than 100% uptime should find a new guild :P |
09:02.21 | Antiarc | Well, you can't have 100% |
09:02.24 | Antiarc | But you should be close |
09:02.37 | Antiarc | Unless you know how to enter combat with SnD on :P |
09:02.43 | evl | heh, forgt that :P |
09:02.45 | evl | say 95%¨ |
09:02.56 | Antiarc | It'll depend on the total combat time and number of times combat is dropped |
09:03.00 | evl | most bad rogue dps is caused by people thinking a big number finisher is better than snd |
09:03.45 | Antiarc | Eh, I find it's more subtle than that |
09:03.54 | Antiarc | Most bad rogue DPS is caused by people not realizing the value of contact time |
09:03.58 | haste | premeditation go! best raid spec ever! |
09:04.07 | Antiarc | More abysmal rogue DPS is caused by not realizing the value of SnD :P |
09:04.12 | Antiarc | haste: Hahahahah |
09:04.16 | haste | (at least you can have 100% SnD uptime!) |
09:04.34 | FinalX | snd = <3 |
09:05.17 | FinalX | combat sword spec, SS -> SnD -> AR -> SnD = goodbye packs of mobs :p |
09:05.24 | FinalX | eh |
09:05.30 | evl | it seems silly but the biggest dps upgrade in BT/HYjal is the 2-set T6 bonus |
09:05.31 | FinalX | s/SnD/BF/2 |
09:05.36 | evl | just insane how much 5% adds |
09:05.54 | Kalroth | evl: I'd guess around 5%? |
09:06.06 | evl | more, potency procs, poison |
09:06.19 | Kalroth | how can 5% be more than 5%? ;P |
09:06.31 | evl | 5% speed doesn't equal 5% more dps linear? |
09:06.31 | Antiarc | Haste rating! |
09:06.33 | Antiarc | :P |
09:06.40 | Kalroth | oh, it's speed |
09:06.44 | Kalroth | I thought it was 5% damage :) |
09:06.53 | evl | that would make... no sense :P |
09:06.53 | Antiarc | Yes, SnD goes from 30% to 35% haste |
09:07.10 | Antiarc | That's like a free uh |
09:07.15 | Kalroth | Pie. |
09:07.16 | evl | and with a swword like savagery it's like lawl energy fest"! |
09:07.21 | Antiarc | 78 haste rating or so |
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09:17.53 | Shadowed | you know |
09:18.00 | Shadowed | you'd think something thats suppose to have been uber popular |
09:18.04 | Shadowed | ONE person would post a screenshot of magictrack |
09:18.38 | cladhaire | what is magictrack? |
09:18.51 | Shadowed | tracks silences and shields |
09:18.56 | Shadowed | like NECB, but without 50000000 things |
09:18.58 | Shadowed | you don't care about |
09:19.02 | cladhaire | heh |
09:19.15 | [Ammo] | hmm |
09:19.28 | [Ammo] | well I did an addon yesterday that hadn't been done yet :) |
09:19.36 | Shadowed | mm? |
09:19.36 | [Ammo] | http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/clock.jpg |
09:19.41 | Health | It's a bit like Antagonist but just a few abilities related to arena |
09:19.44 | FinalX | amg utwente :P |
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09:19.58 | Health | and Antagonist seem to miss a bunch of stuff sometimes |
09:20.01 | [Ammo] | haha, don't live there anymore for 5 years :p |
09:20.02 | Shadowed | yea |
09:20.03 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: its been done, but this is nicer than those were, imo :P |
09:20.15 | [Ammo] | I coudlnt' find any |
09:20.18 | [Ammo] | on the addon sites |
09:20.21 | cladhaire | where can I get MagicTrack? |
09:20.23 | Zhinjio | there's a clock in groupcalendar. |
09:20.31 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: most were done 1-2 years ago.. and are way out of date |
09:20.36 | Zhinjio | not that thats what you use it for |
09:20.41 | cladhaire | or weren't released beyond the forums |
09:20.57 | FinalX | I never went to Uni though, thought working was much more fun, interesting and rewarding (both monetary and knowledge..).. :) No regrets :P |
09:21.04 | Health | cladhaire: It was never released.. only for selected arena players |
09:21.09 | cladhaire | ah okay |
09:21.11 | Health | but now it "leaked" |
09:21.35 | Health | http://www.radikalnoise.com/2007/12/magictrack.html |
09:21.53 | Shadowed | it's really not that complicated an addon |
09:22.07 | Health | I'd say Antagonist is better.. but it keeps missing stuff |
09:22.13 | Health | So it sucks |
09:22.15 | Shadowed | Antagonist tracks more then I care about |
09:24.14 | cladhaire | Shadowed: let me know what you end up doing with it, seems like it'd be useful for me. |
09:25.00 | Shadowed | cladhaire: Not that much else, it's missing a few silences. Going to see if I can track totem pulsing. But mostly all it needs is a GUI to make it a bit easier to configure |
09:25.12 | cladhaire | cool |
09:25.15 | cladhaire | well lemme know where i can get it |
09:25.18 | cladhaire | :P |
09:25.29 | Health | cladhaire: The link I posted is where you can get it |
09:25.32 | Shadowed | watch SVN! |
09:25.34 | Shadowed | well |
09:25.36 | cladhaire | I don't want _that_ version. |
09:25.37 | Shadowed | watch CIA spamming SVN |
09:25.41 | Health | ;p |
09:25.47 | cladhaire | Shadowed: No, ping me personally in #dongle bitch |
09:25.53 | Shadowed | whatever lazy fucker |
09:26.04 | cladhaire | :P |
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09:27.19 | Orionshock | :( debuff that makes your armor go to 0 as the MT is bad |
09:27.43 | cladhaire | true |
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09:32.24 | bigzero | is there something ace'd that's like Possessions? |
09:33.03 | Kalroth | Orionshock: More rage is good! |
09:33.20 | Orionshock | ya .. no |
09:33.28 | KivinSan | Anyone know if ChatFrame1:AddMessage() is used to display game text from channels, say, guild, emote, etc? |
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09:33.57 | bigzero | try and see? |
09:34.14 | exor674 | KivinSan: it all depends on your configuration I think |
09:34.26 | KivinSan | erm? |
09:34.39 | Zhinjio | everyone can configure each chat frame to do display whatever they want |
09:34.42 | KivinSan | if I type a message in /1, what determines what API is used to show that on my screen, then |
09:34.56 | KivinSan | okay, granted... perhaps i'm not asking the right question |
09:35.53 | bigzero | Blizzard API uses AddMessage() method to display chat frame content...look at the chatframe.lua file |
09:36.03 | KivinSan | Alright, that's all I needed. Cheers. |
09:38.51 | KivinSan | I'm trying to figure out the best way to get "pure" incoming messages before addons like Prat mangle it |
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09:45.16 | Godzmack | i saw an addon once that could track what was happening while you were zoning/loading and what could possibly be slowing it down but can't remember the name |
09:45.35 | Godzmack | does that ring a bell for anyone? |
09:46.24 | Health | Then blizzard supressed all events during zoning |
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09:48.18 | Godzmack | i thought so but after installing capping my zoning time increased by like ~10 sec |
09:48.25 | Godzmack | and removing it doesn't do anything |
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09:55.18 | Arrowmaster | KivinSan: best way to get the "pure" incoming messages is to listen to the CHAT_MSG_* events |
09:56.31 | KivinSan | Arrowmaster: I was hoping to be able to stop them from reaching the chat frame |
09:57.47 | Arrowmaster | then you either hook the functions inside the chatframe handlers or the chatframe addmessages |
09:58.04 | Arrowmaster | but everything else hooks those too |
09:58.06 | KivinSan | It looks like intercepting ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler does the trick.. |
09:58.28 | KivinSan | I have done a hackjob unsafe hook of it and i'm getting CHAT_MSG_TEXT_EMOTEs and stuff around shattrath |
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09:58.58 | KivinSan | Hmm... okay... It picked up an emote but not a trade message. |
09:59.22 | Arrowmaster | chatframe has multiple handlers |
09:59.27 | Arrowmaster | find the right one first |
10:00.06 | Arrowmaster | although you might have the right one |
10:01.57 | KivinSan | it looks like said handler recieves CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL notifications, however my hook isn't picking them up. Could it be Prat doing it? |
10:02.33 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
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10:03.27 | KivinSan | I'm thinking prat's hook formats channel messages and passes the rest down to the blizzard handler. i'm just getting the fallout from prat |
10:06.22 | KivinSan | Aside from adding ! to the addon, or using dependencies to make prat load afterwards, so i can ninja the hook, i can't think of how to get in before prat scoops up the channel messages |
10:07.48 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r57796 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add two missing patterns in deDE (reported by Ryanthusar) |
10:08.21 | Antiarc | I've never had problems with Prat mangling my events |
10:08.50 | KivinSan | If I ever said it's mangling text, I was using the wrong word |
10:09.00 | KivinSan | It formats channel messages from [2 - Trade] to just [2] |
10:12.31 | Antiarc | dyslexics are teople poo. |
10:13.07 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r57797 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add expertise related entries in frFR. |
10:13.16 | ckknight | Antiarc: dyslexia is an STD |
10:13.20 | KivinSan | ... |
10:13.37 | KivinSan | ckknight: Make PitBull stop opening RockConfig on right clicks >_< |
10:13.45 | ckknight | NO U |
10:13.51 | KivinSan | OKAY |
10:13.53 | KivinSan | how do i fix it |
10:14.22 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
10:14.35 | KivinSan | >_> |
10:15.53 | ckknight | KivinSan: not sure |
10:16.01 | KivinSan | ckknight: Do you know why it happens? |
10:16.08 | ckknight | has to do with making button2 exist for non-standard frames |
10:16.33 | Zhinjio | where does it open rockcoinfig? when you right click what? |
10:16.44 | KivinSan | When you right click a ... non-standard frame |
10:16.48 | KivinSan | ie: target's target's target |
10:16.52 | KivinSan | main tank 1 |
10:16.55 | Zhinjio | ah. |
10:17.00 | Health | YOU are a no-standard frame |
10:17.01 | Zhinjio | I was going to say. |
10:17.08 | thul | CHOCOLATE RAIN |
10:17.12 | Zhinjio | right clicking my unit frame gives me the right stuff |
10:17.18 | thul | hmm, my aguf doesen't show target of target anymore :-( |
10:17.28 | KivinSan | RockConfig takes 5+ seconds to come up on my screen and freezes the UI in the process... right clicking a unit frame in pvp kills me every time |
10:17.28 | Zhinjio | thul, you need to let go of that dude. |
10:17.38 | Zhinjio | I know he's cute and all and you think his voice is the sexah. |
10:17.43 | Zhinjio | but like.... get over it |
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10:17.48 | KivinSan | ckknight: Care to give me a clue where the right-click handler is? |
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10:18.09 | ckknight | KivinSan: search for SetAttribute |
10:18.21 | ckknight | and possibly "*button2" |
10:18.28 | thul | Zhinjio: D |
10:18.28 | thul | nevah |
10:18.32 | thul | my gf hates the song by now. |
10:18.33 | Zhinjio | heh |
10:19.18 | KivinSan | frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", configFrame_OnMouseDown) |
10:22.05 | KivinSan | PitBull.lua : 4035. frame_custom_menu(this,unit) PitBull:OpenConfigMenu(this.group) end |
10:22.36 | thul | hmm |
10:23.28 | KivinSan | I commented out that line and I no longer have anything happen when i r-click a targettarget frame |
10:24.02 | KivinSan | ckknight: That's your culprit. I'm not exactly sure what it's <supposed> to do. |
10:24.15 | ckknight | that part is fine |
10:24.30 | ckknight | it's just that it isn't supposed to open for flat button2 |
10:24.38 | ckknight | but is for ctrl-button2, etc. |
10:24.44 | KivinSan | I see |
10:25.10 | KivinSan | frame:SetAttribute("*type2", "custom_menu").... that's where it's coming from |
10:25.19 | KivinSan | I wish I knew more about secure templates |
10:26.50 | KivinSan | Oh well, I'm keeping that line commented out |
10:27.08 | KivinSan | i never knew ctr-click was supposed to work in the first place, so I shouldn't miss it too much xP |
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10:28.44 | thul | ok, now i hate pitbull again |
10:28.47 | thul | fucking asshattery :pø |
10:28.50 | KivinSan | O_O |
10:28.55 | KivinSan | *blink* |
10:29.06 | ckknight | asshattery? |
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10:30.52 | KivinSan | ckknight: Might I suggest disabling that line in the trunk version until someone figures out how to get the ctrl+click config to work? |
10:30.58 | ckknight | no. |
10:31.22 | KivinSan | suit yourself |
10:31.25 | ckknight | it's about getting the normal right-click to stop working |
10:31.30 | ckknight | overriding it |
10:31.53 | thul | yes, asshattery :-P |
10:32.01 | thul | i just want pitbull to actually do what i tell it to do :-( |
10:32.14 | ckknight | what's the issue? |
10:32.14 | KivinSan | PitBulls aren't known for their obedience. Woof. |
10:32.27 | ckknight | being overly vague isn't helpful at all, so you know |
10:32.53 | thul | :-P |
10:33.07 | thul | I just want it to hide the party frames AND use the scaling i input, but it doesen't. |
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10:35.28 | thul | fuck |
10:35.30 | thul | and i want tab-targeting (nothign to do with pitbull ofc) TO ACTUALLY WORK IN PVP |
10:36.26 | SunTsu | ckknight: BTW. is there any option to only show the group you are in with pitbull and raids? |
10:36.47 | ckknight | hrm, I'm not sure there is |
10:36.53 | ckknight | wait, yes |
10:36.57 | ckknight | you just hide raid |
10:37.00 | ckknight | and show part in raid |
10:37.02 | ckknight | party* |
10:37.05 | ckknight | there's an option for it |
10:37.27 | SunTsu | ckknight: Ah, I see, I just expected it to be under grouping. Thanks |
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10:40.36 | Zhinjio | semi-regular request for code review/critique: http://geo.trippy.org/SKG?SKG_5.02.zip .... plugin feedback/info at http://skg.trippy.org/ |
10:41.02 | KivinSan | *sigh* this bug is driving me crazy and I can't figure out how to fix it |
10:41.21 | KivinSan | only happens with Pawn and Cowtip running at the same time |
10:41.52 | ckknight | Pawn? |
10:42.08 | KivinSan | An item rating addon |
10:42.08 | vithos | thul: heh, i fucking hate targetting in wow too. |
10:42.19 | KivinSan | It parses tooltips and gives a numeric value for the sum of their stats |
10:42.46 | KivinSan | Whenever I hover my mouse over an item button, both on the character page, or a bag, which doesn't have an item in it, Pawn gets a message to parse a nil tooltip |
10:42.57 | KivinSan | I shut off CowTip and pawn stops getting phony notifications |
10:43.10 | vithos | trying to click on someone that's moving through a group of players while you're moving at the same time = good luck. and tab targetting of course is just as bad |
10:43.22 | KivinSan | Name plates are <3 |
10:43.25 | KivinSan | I'd be screwed without them |
10:43.28 | Lukian | are there any guildbank management addons? |
10:43.36 | Lukian | say.. I want to move half of tab 1 to tab 2. |
10:43.37 | vithos | name plates reorder spacially too much |
10:43.53 | KivinSan | Still helps |
10:44.00 | KivinSan | Gives you a much larger hit box |
10:44.07 | KivinSan | Even if it is still a moving target |
10:44.30 | SunTsu | Aloft gives me nice big nameplates |
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10:45.31 | KivinSan | ckknight: Can you think of any reason why GameTooltip would get a :Set*() API call with nil parameters when hovering over a blank item button, while CowTip is running? |
10:45.43 | vithos | i just think with how often name plates will swap places instantly, it might do me more harm than good. but i do play with them on sometimes |
10:45.50 | thul | vithos: yup |
10:46.01 | ckknight | KivinSan: which :Set*? |
10:46.06 | KivinSan | ckknight: I have no idea |
10:46.08 | thul | i just want "hey, the lock I'm pounding gets help from a warrior, i have to tab to blind".. tab, tab, tab, tab... no? |
10:46.11 | thul | *cries* |
10:46.16 | vithos | though, i do play on a 25ms LCD, which doesn't help, since the ghosting makes it nearly impossible to read the unit names as they move around the screen |
10:46.31 | KivinSan | ckknight: I'll add some debug code and see if i can find out |
10:46.45 | vithos | but i just wish there was a better way. |
10:47.07 | Camma | Vit kill quicker ;) |
10:47.17 | KivinSan | http://ace.pastey.net/79901 <- that's why i can't tell you |
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10:49.13 | thul | work in 2 hours |
10:49.14 | thul | buhu |
10:50.41 | vithos | Camma: i have no problem putting out damage. it's just that the recipient isn't always who i want :P |
10:50.52 | KivinSan | lol... |
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10:51.15 | KivinSan | I sometimes depend on auto-target when I jump off my horse and try to gank someone and end up doing 6000 critical damage to some poor hunter's pet |
10:51.36 | vithos | lol |
10:51.42 | KivinSan | ckknight: Apologies. It isn't GameTooltip at all. It's some goofy hidden tooltip that is unique to Pawn. |
10:51.43 | SunTsu | I find it quite annoying that the first tab normally doesn't change the target and you _always_ have to tab twice |
10:51.43 | vithos | i kill hunter pets so often. |
10:51.50 | vithos | and i'm a hunter |
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10:52.22 | SunTsu | vithos: Well, if your opponent is a BM it might be a wise thing to do ;) |
10:52.28 | thul | hmm, I hate locks, did I mention that? :-P |
10:52.32 | vithos | i am BM too :) |
10:52.33 | SunTsu | If he is not, well ;) |
10:52.42 | vithos | but man does it suck when hunters use snake traps |
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10:53.29 | SunTsu | vithos: My hunter is, too. Just dinged lvl50 and my pet most of the time does more damage than me, so killing it would be a wise move in PvP |
10:53.42 | KivinSan | SunTsu: That generally isn't the case after lv.62 |
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10:54.31 | SunTsu | KivinSan: Is that when you get aimed shot? ;) |
10:54.55 | vithos | steady shot, i think? |
10:54.57 | KivinSan | SunTsu: You can get aimed shot at around lv.20-25... Steady Shot is 62 |
10:55.06 | KivinSan | It's a cheaper aimed shot with no cooldown |
10:55.14 | KivinSan | that doesn't reset your autoshot swing timer |
10:55.33 | SunTsu | KivinSan: Ah, sounds great |
10:55.56 | vithos | yeah, you stop using aimed shot and serpent sting at that point |
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10:56.00 | KivinSan | basically, every other shot (due to global cooldown) you can weave in an extra shot |
10:56.52 | thul | almost like slam :-P |
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10:57.35 | KivinSan | exactly like slam, actually ;p |
10:57.38 | Lukian | I just tried to name a guild bank tab "Leatherworking" and it errors with: "That name contains mature language. Enter a new name" |
10:57.53 | thul | well, slam you can spam each hit |
10:57.56 | thul | not each other? :-P |
10:57.59 | KivinSan | Except most warriors are too stupid to realize how amazing slam is. hunters have been so depraved that they leap all over steady shot. |
10:58.20 | KivinSan | but it's most efficient to weave slam into your standard autoattack |
10:58.40 | Thelyna | actually, warriors generally have better options than slam, hunters have nothing better than steady shot >.> |
10:58.59 | KivinSan | Is there any way I can fetch what link was passed into SomeTooltip:SetHyperlink() without hooking the function? |
10:59.07 | Thelyna | except arcane because it's instant and multi because of the 0.5s cast for MM/Surv hunters doing 1:1.5 rots |
10:59.19 | KivinSan | Thelyna: Slam is the best DPS ability you get with it improved |
10:59.54 | KivinSan | Compress a 3.6 to 3.8 weapon into a 1.5(?) second slam and that's a metric asstonne of dps |
10:59.56 | thul | well, 2h fury = slam |
11:00.14 | thul | autoattack, then 0.5sec (imp slam) slam |
11:00.25 | SunTsu | Hm, aimed shot is lvl 20-25? Then I have to find out why I don't have it, I normally use arcane shot |
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11:00.47 | vithos | it's a talent |
11:00.51 | Thelyna | SunTsu: it's the 11-pt talent in marksmanship |
11:00.58 | SunTsu | Ah, OK, that explains. Thands |
11:01.03 | Thelyna | what level/spec are you? |
11:01.07 | KivinSan | SunTsu: it's very expensive. you wouldn't really want to use it even if you had it |
11:01.10 | SunTsu | I just have 3 points in there to extend my reach |
11:01.19 | KivinSan | reach is survival, not marks |
11:01.20 | Thelyna | hawk eye is survival :o |
11:01.26 | SunTsu | Thelyna: lvl50, beast master |
11:01.40 | SunTsu | KivinSan: OH, right. |
11:01.45 | SunTsu | I never understood that |
11:01.48 | Thelyna | and yeah, the only time I use aimed shot is for misdirection pulls where I need that extra oomph, and for pvp ambushes |
11:02.06 | KivinSan | Yeah, it's a PVP ability, what with the healing debuff |
11:02.17 | KivinSan | Using it in PVE is like a warrior mortal striking... pretty silly |
11:02.19 | Thelyna | otherwise you get more damage done with less mana used just by steady/auto |
11:02.36 | KivinSan | steady is a ton more damage per mana |
11:02.56 | Thelyna | erm what ... warriors shouldn't mortal strike in pve? |
11:03.07 | KivinSan | slam is a better choice 100% of the time |
11:03.13 | thul | Thelyna: in pvp? yes |
11:03.15 | KivinSan | half as much rage and similar dps |
11:03.18 | thul | slam can be interrupted |
11:03.28 | thul | that is the problem with slam in pvp |
11:03.30 | thul | it is not instant |
11:03.31 | Thelyna | thul: pve. |
11:03.36 | KivinSan | pve... |
11:03.39 | thul | ah, pve. |
11:03.44 | thul | pve = imp slam |
11:03.48 | thul | with BT as filler |
11:03.48 | thul | :-P |
11:03.56 | Thelyna | slam resets the swing timer right? |
11:04.13 | KivinSan | aimed shot 7 = 370 Mana, (Damage + 870); Steady shot 1 = 110 mana (Damge + (20% of RAP) + 150) |
11:04.14 | KivinSan | Yes, it does |
11:04.30 | _rane | my war partner uses slam in arena |
11:04.37 | thul | yeah |
11:04.44 | thul | that is why I use a slam timer:P |
11:04.47 | KivinSan | slam is king if you can get something to stay still long enough to whack him with it |
11:05.03 | KivinSan | 1000 white damage every .5 seconds? yes please |
11:05.12 | KivinSan | well, every 1.5 seconds with global cooldown |
11:05.36 | _rane | we got to 1900 with him having Thunder and last night he got the s3 mace |
11:05.53 | Thelyna | so slam once after every white swing, but after that you're better off waiting for the next white swing to slam again |
11:06.00 | Thelyna | no? |
11:06.02 | KivinSan | Correct |
11:06.19 | Thelyna | but with a decent level of gear wouldn't that be a net rage gain? |
11:06.20 | KivinSan | |-*----|-*----|-*----| |
11:06.29 | KivinSan | Bars mark the beginning of a swing, stars mark the beginning of a slam |
11:07.11 | KivinSan | I don't understand the question |
11:07.42 | Thelyna | assuming you're just slamming after every white swing, wouldn't you gain rage? |
11:07.51 | thul | yes |
11:07.57 | thul | and that rage, you use for bloodthirts, whirlwind or ms :-P |
11:08.20 | Thelyna | which makes "<KivinSan> slam is a better choice 100% of the time" a lie? |
11:08.37 | KivinSan | ... while you have adequate rage. Obviously. |
11:08.38 | SunTsu | .o0( Normally MS gives me rage, unlimited, but that's mostly in IT, not in WoW ) |
11:09.30 | thul | Thelyna: well, 100% of the time a slam SHOULD be used |
11:09.36 | thul | (right after swing timer resets) |
11:09.47 | thul | bloodthirst/ww etc are just fillers:p |
11:10.00 | KivinSan | MS 6 = 30 Rage, Damage + 210. Slam 6 = 15 Rage, Damage + 140 |
11:10.32 | KivinSan | Assuming 1k white damage, MS = 40.3 Dmg/Rage, Slam = 76 |
11:11.20 | KivinSan | I'm not disqualifying stuff like whirlwind. But in a PVE situation where you can either whack em with slam or mortal strike, slam is the better choice. 100% of the time. |
11:12.06 | thul | 2h fury for lvling ftw |
11:12.31 | KivinSan | indeed |
11:12.39 | KivinSan | 2h fury for party dps ftw, too |
11:13.06 | KivinSan | I've had a Improved slam warrior with gorehowl clock out very close to 1k dps in a normal SH, which is very difficult to do |
11:14.14 | thul | what i got impressed by, was logging into my shaman (lvl 63) and speccing enhancement with the new focus talent |
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11:14.29 | KivinSan | Yes, that's very yummy |
11:14.45 | thul | I really, really liked the dps i got on my shammy now, so much that i actually want to lvl him to 70 and try to find a raiding guild |
11:15.11 | KivinSan | My kara's top performer is an enhance shaman with a blend of warlords and season 1 pvp gear |
11:15.45 | KivinSan | I expect my new retribution pala to beat him, though |
11:16.06 | thul | I out-dps all palas, shamans, warriors, locks etc on my rogue, but then again, my rogue doesen't bring _anything_ else to the table than dps. |
11:16.07 | vithos | ...that's just so wrong. |
11:16.07 | Thelyna | ah, I misunderstood then .. from your initial tone it sounded like you were saying the only ability a warrior needed bound was slam |
11:16.09 | thul | so that is ok :-P |
11:16.45 | KivinSan | Thelyna: No, not at all. I was merely saying Slam is correct in any situation where you might be pushing MS |
11:16.56 | thul | only people i have trouble outdpsing is mages :-( |
11:17.01 | vithos | maybe at that gear level, but end game enh shaman and ret paladin dps doesn't compete |
11:17.01 | Thelyna | assuming you haven't slammed already on that swing timer |
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11:17.28 | KivinSan | vithos: Have you had a significant amount of retribution exposure since 2.3? |
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11:17.44 | vithos | we have a ret paladin in our raids. we've killed illidan |
11:17.49 | KivinSan | Okay. |
11:17.51 | vithos | we also have an enh shaman |
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11:18.01 | KivinSan | god, stop spamming |
11:18.14 | KivinSan | Becaues I read WWS reports and watch BT videos on a semi regular basis involving ret palas |
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11:18.32 | KivinSan | and i've seen them hit top 3 dps on gorefiend and illidan |
11:18.39 | Thelyna | http://wowwebstats.com/mr3nqcb2bcyce?s=0-180 .... that looks like pretty competitive enh shaman damage tbh |
11:18.45 | Antiarc | The biggest argument against a ret paladin, for me, is that they require Windfury to be viable, and that spot just works so much better for another rogue. |
11:18.57 | Antiarc | And our enh shammy is very competitive. |
11:19.12 | Thelyna | Antiarc: you don't WF your tanks? |
11:19.31 | Antiarc | I know we have a shaman in the MT group, but she's resto and I don't know if she drops WF or not |
11:19.38 | Antiarc | We save our enh shammy for our melee DPS group |
11:19.54 | Thelyna | if you drop anything other than WF in a MT group you're, tbh, a bit loopy in the head |
11:20.07 | Antiarc | I just stab things, what do I know? :P |
11:20.14 | Thelyna | except, very possibly, a fight where healer mana is taxed by MT damage |
11:20.17 | KivinSan | We have a bear tank, so grace of air goes down |
11:20.18 | nevcairiel | agility for tanks for dodge ? :P |
11:20.19 | Thelyna | which is pretty rare these days |
11:20.35 | Thelyna | WF = more threat for tanks = your dps can go harder |
11:21.07 | Antiarc | I never have threat problems with our MT, so I dunno. I just give her a 5k threat head start (or none at all!) and start merrily DPSing |
11:21.11 | KivinSan | The theorycraft has been done at EJ and it's widely accepted, there, that 1 Warrior tank is enough to justify a WF totem |
11:21.11 | vithos | an enh shaman is definitely worth the raid spot, and yeah, his dps is actually not that far behind |
11:21.14 | Antiarc | Barring fights like Gurtogg |
11:21.31 | Antiarc | The amount of DPS that an enh shaman brings to a melee DPS group is staggering |
11:22.00 | vithos | but our ret pally, in the enh shaman group, is definitely not pulling his weight |
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11:22.15 | KivinSan | What kind of numbers is he putting out? |
11:22.15 | vithos | maybe it's just this guy and not the class, i don't know |
11:22.16 | Antiarc | We run rogue+rogue+33/28 warrior+enh shaman+feral druid, usually |
11:22.22 | Thelyna | do you have an armory and WWS reports? |
11:22.35 | Thelyna | Antiarc: too easy, swap the fdruid and ret paladin :) |
11:22.44 | Antiarc | I like mah haelz :( |
11:23.04 | vithos | let me see if there's any wws that hasn't expired |
11:23.05 | Thelyna | just get a resto shaman and it's sorted, no? |
11:23.08 | thul | i want to raid as enhancement shamans |
11:23.13 | Antiarc | Our feral druid also puts out some frightening DPS when she's allowed to just full-out DPS. She's usually #2 on Najentus, behind me |
11:23.18 | KivinSan | vithos: I want to say it's at least partially him. I'm loathe to make sweeping statements when you're the BT raider and I'm not |
11:23.37 | KivinSan | vithos: ... but I've seen pretty compelling videos where either the entire raid is under performing, or the paladin is seriously pulling his weight |
11:23.46 | Thelyna | Antiarc: WTB your feral druid |
11:24.05 | Thelyna | our feral normally comes in just ahead of the MT on naj :/ |
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11:24.12 | Antiarc | Heh, ouch |
11:24.34 | Thelyna | he's a pretty solid tank |
11:24.39 | Thelyna | but his dps just isn't there |
11:25.07 | Antiarc | We have two feral tanks. One is the aforementioned, who basically kicks ass at everything. Respecs and heals for Gurtogg even, heh. |
11:25.20 | Antiarc | The other does well when he knows his job ahead of time, but has the reaction speed of a glacier. |
11:25.34 | KivinSan | that's not good... |
11:25.46 | Thelyna | we have a few special cases |
11:26.03 | Thelyna | attention span of a goldfish, situational awareness of a stunned mullet |
11:26.24 | KivinSan | I frequently party with a rogue that has absolutely no attention span at all |
11:26.30 | Antiarc | Night elf? |
11:26.36 | KivinSan | undead |
11:26.40 | KivinSan | He'll either let his mind wander off before a pull and forget that he's supposed to sap |
11:26.48 | KivinSan | and we'll all be going ...... uhhhh... ? sap? |
11:26.50 | vithos | this is all i've got unfortunately. valac is the ret pally http://wowwebstats.com/to2ajer45wmxc |
11:26.53 | Antiarc | Bring a hunter |
11:26.55 | Antiarc | MD him on pulls |
11:27.00 | Antiarc | He'll learn to pay attention real quick |
11:27.03 | Thelyna | then again I can't talk about attention span, I tend to spend half of any given instance alt-tabbed out |
11:27.10 | SunTsu | .o0( My reaction time in raids just got better. Maybe that's due that my fps went from 3 to 70-120... ) |
11:27.10 | Antiarc | Dual monitors for the win. |
11:27.11 | Thelyna | which is kinda bad when I either tank or heal >.> |
11:27.11 | KivinSan | or he gets distracted by TV in the middle of a pull and auto runs into something |
11:27.25 | vithos | and it seems that armory is broken for my entire guild |
11:27.30 | KivinSan | vithos: He is awfully low, that paladin |
11:27.36 | KivinSan | armory is broken, period. |
11:27.41 | KivinSan | "Waiting for refresh" nonsense |
11:27.48 | thul | I'm raiding at 5 fps :-P |
11:28.27 | KivinSan | vithos: Is it Aetherial? |
11:28.38 | vithos | Aeth is prot. Valac is ret |
11:28.42 | KivinSan | Oook |
11:28.51 | thul | corvette needs to buff his dps :-P |
11:28.52 | KivinSan | that's even worse. he got out-dpsed by a tank. |
11:28.53 | Antiarc | 1k DPS is pretty low for melee on Anetheron, unless he was chain slept or something |
11:29.12 | vithos | well, you can't really look at the full report. that's including hyjal trash |
11:29.21 | Antiarc | I'm looking at specific splits |
11:29.23 | KivinSan | i see |
11:29.28 | Thelyna | yah, hyjal trash makes prot paladins look OP |
11:29.36 | vithos | yeah, that was directed at KivinSan |
11:29.40 | Antiarc | Hyjal trash makes rockstars out of prot paladins |
11:29.43 | KivinSan | i don't really know how to put it to a certain boss fight |
11:29.47 | Antiarc | And combat rogues. Dual Frenzy plz. >_> |
11:29.54 | KivinSan | i don't use wws |
11:29.55 | vithos | KivinSan: the menu next to Split at the top |
11:29.56 | SunTsu | thul: Did that for a long time, was great "I'm a tank, too, you don't have to taunt mobs off me!" "Well, uh, didn't see that someone had it already..." |
11:29.56 | Antiarc | KivinSan: Hover over the "Split" text |
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11:30.19 | Antiarc | I'll tell you, one good thing about 2.3.2 will be that I'll be back to 41 combat with Combat Potency |
11:30.27 | KivinSan | ok |
11:30.32 | Antiarc | And I get my delicious Hyjal frenzy blendermode where I get more energy than I can spend :D |
11:30.39 | Antiarc | 0.16 offhand speed for the freakin' win. |
11:30.53 | KivinSan | 1031 DPS isn't terrible |
11:30.58 | Antiarc | On Anetheron? |
11:31.03 | KivinSan | I dunno, i don't raid Tier 6 |
11:31.04 | Antiarc | Anetheron is a melee punching bag |
11:31.07 | KivinSan | I see |
11:31.17 | KivinSan | I was just going to ask if he spends much time running around fleeing from shit |
11:31.17 | vithos | lol i found another WWS with the ret pally in it. it's a karazhan run http://wowwebstats.com/swhu3q4mtjjdm |
11:31.19 | Antiarc | For perspective, as a rogue, the last Anetheron kill I was on, I put out 1700 DPS |
11:31.30 | KivinSan | i see |
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11:31.45 | Antiarc | Karazhan is tilted towards paladins since it's 95% undead. |
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11:31.52 | KivinSan | that doesn't change anything |
11:31.56 | Thelyna | actually, more like 50% |
11:31.58 | Thelyna | and yes it does |
11:32.01 | KivinSan | A ret paladin wont be popping exorcism much |
11:32.13 | Thelyna | on short fights yes they will |
11:32.17 | KivinSan | he did 3800 damage from exorcism and 0 damage from holy whatever it is |
11:32.23 | Thelyna | holy wrath |
11:32.25 | evl | retri fails. |
11:32.30 | evl | someone should make a t-shirt |
11:32.30 | KivinSan | it doesn't |
11:32.32 | evl | it fails |
11:32.34 | Antiarc | Ret -can- be good. |
11:32.34 | evl | it's a rogue that sucks |
11:32.48 | KivinSan | moroons that cling to antiquated ideas about ret fail |
11:32.51 | KivinSan | morons* |
11:32.52 | Antiarc | It's just not worth the opportunity cost of a good solid melee DPS in your windfury group, if you have one available. |
11:33.00 | evl | ^ what he says |
11:33.10 | Antiarc | Standing alone, Ret can be great DPS. |
11:33.28 | vithos | yeah, you can definitely see his performance being subpar on that kara wws. the worst part is he thinks his dps is awesome, and thought he beat me on that kara run too :( he must have merge pets turned off or something. |
11:33.37 | Antiarc | But you kick a rogue out of the windfury group and he's a wasted slot. A paladin out of the windfury group can still heal or tank. :P |
11:33.40 | Thelyna | you're neglecting the group buffs that a ret paladin brings though |
11:33.53 | Thelyna | ahahah funny .. ever seen a ret paladin try to tank? |
11:34.02 | Antiarc | We made our ret paladin respec prot. :P |
11:34.02 | Thelyna | a 0/0/0 spec warrior would do better, tbh (at tanking) |
11:34.05 | evl | yes, they are so nice in hyjal it's not even funny |
11:34.12 | evl | warriors suck dick in MH |
11:34.24 | Thelyna | well, you want to bring one at least |
11:34.43 | Antiarc | Warriors are pretty fantastic offtanks for MH trash |
11:34.52 | Thelyna | for spell reflect on the pull, and to tank kazrogal and presumably anetheron and archimonde |
11:34.55 | evl | but nothing soaks up aoe agro like a pala |
11:35.02 | Thelyna | that's true |
11:35.03 | evl | one of those ranged thingys and you have the whole pack |
11:35.08 | Antiarc | Let a paladin soak up the AOE, then have a warrior pull a few mobs off of him. Give him Unholy Frenzy and he's an unstoppable threat machine |
11:35.09 | Thelyna | but abominations on your paladin tank = gg |
11:35.12 | evl | and you will have pala on #2 or #3 dps |
11:35.17 | evl | just spam heal pala |
11:35.21 | evl | it works a:P |
11:35.33 | Kalroth | I often end up offtanking in dps gear, nothing soaks up aoe aggro like a dps warrior with sweeping strikes + whirlwind + cleave :P |
11:35.43 | Thelyna | your healers must be putting some mad heals out then |
11:35.44 | Antiarc | Wars are also really nice for the billion-banshess wave before, uh, Anetheron? |
11:35.44 | harldephin | hm. i'm kind of soloing group-quests now. those that are meant to be for 2 or 3 players. that still ok for someone? |
11:35.52 | Kalroth | and once they start hitting me, it's only getting better |
11:35.57 | Antiarc | We use them for shield wall if the NPCs disengage :P |
11:36.02 | Thelyna | on some of those bigger waves, there's like 10 mobs hitting your paladin |
11:36.11 | Thelyna | and if he gets stunned, he has no block, dodge or parry |
11:36.20 | evl | with blizzard etc they don't hit that much |
11:36.21 | Thelyna | incoming dps spikes from ~1.5k to 5k |
11:36.22 | harldephin | poooor pally |
11:36.31 | Kalroth | Thelyna: Eh, not really. I often end up tanking 1-2 ghouls or abdoms. And I very often tank the casters, since I pre-sunder them for rogues. |
11:36.38 | evl | The times I've done MH with a pala tank it's been amazingly fun |
11:36.47 | Kalroth | Nothing like 3-4 rogues working on a pre-sundered caster. |
11:36.57 | Thelyna | Kalroth: yeah, I was referring to basically having a paladin tank all the melee mobs in a wave |
11:37.01 | Antiarc | Having a paladin tank makes all the difference in the world. It's just unbelievable how much better it makes the trash. |
11:37.11 | Antiarc | We actually use a holy paladin in tank gear for it, but it works. |
11:37.15 | evl | A paladin in good gear has no problem tanking an entire melee wave |
11:37.23 | Kalroth | Thelyna: Oh, that's boring. Not enough fun for the dps warriors! |
11:37.29 | evl | and the dps he puts out with thaat reflect crap is insane |
11:37.50 | Thelyna | Kalroth: my rule in hyjal is if you pull it off me you can tank it |
11:37.51 | evl | like wtf 1700 dps on trash without spending any mana what the fook |
11:37.58 | Kalroth | Thelyna: Exactly! |
11:38.09 | KivinSan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3706994255&sid=1 |
11:38.27 | Thelyna | evl: er, actually, they're spending like 200 mana a second, they're just getting it back through spiritual attunement |
11:38.28 | Kalroth | lol |
11:38.56 | evl | oh, I don't know much about it, I'm a rogue |
11:39.20 | evl | I just know that when we have pala tank I can watch TV and the whole wave just dies in AOE and we have 1-2 minutes to spare per wave |
11:39.30 | harldephin | <- druid |
11:39.40 | Thelyna | vithos: tbh, the ret paladin wasn't the weak link in that kara group :o |
11:39.50 | Antiarc | See, I love MH trash as a rogue, but that's because my priests love me and stack frenzy on me |
11:39.59 | vithos | Thelyna: he and i were the only non-alt dpsers |
11:40.01 | Antiarc | Then I'm all "blade flurry 3500 dps lawl" |
11:40.05 | evl | :D |
11:40.12 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Followed by a "res pls" |
11:40.16 | Antiarc | Nah |
11:40.18 | vithos | Thelyna: well except Sof, for part of it |
11:40.21 | Antiarc | YOu just do it 20 sec into the wave |
11:40.32 | vithos | err.. k Sof for all of it. |
11:40.54 | Health | you're so hip and cool Kalroth |
11:40.56 | vithos | the rest are wearing greens |
11:41.05 | Kalroth | Health: and you're still stuck in KZ! |
11:41.22 | SunTsu | I really like our prot paladin in the Eye. Takes all of Al'ars adds and the flying tratsh before it without even breaking asweat. |
11:42.39 | Thelyna | can do al'ar adds as well |
11:42.46 | Thelyna | I typically hold VR to sub 50% |
11:42.54 | Thelyna | except when I start the fight with salv >.> |
11:43.05 | Kalroth | We've had a warrior hold VR to sub 30% |
11:43.13 | Thelyna | you? |
11:43.17 | Kalroth | A warrior |
11:43.21 | Kalroth | I rarely tank |
11:43.27 | Health | I can hold VR to 0%! |
11:43.30 | Antiarc | Our feral regularly holds VR for the full 100%. Sup dodge. |
11:43.40 | evl | idd, sup 70% dodge druids |
11:43.40 | Antiarc | Druid dodge rates depress me :( |
11:43.52 | Thelyna | 'idd' means what? |
11:43.56 | evl | indeed |
11:43.57 | Kalroth | Indeed |
11:44.01 | Kalroth | For some odd reason |
11:44.03 | Health | Indeed it does |
11:44.03 | Antiarc | She just tanks it in cat gear, and has a billion agility and something like 900% dodge or something. |
11:44.24 | Health | Yes, 900% |
11:44.25 | Thelyna | last time our MT tried doing VR in his dps gear he went splat >.> |
11:44.26 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Our warrior stacks block value and put out 1300-1400 TPS, works fine too :) |
11:44.53 | Antiarc | Hehe, that works, though that's sorta the brute-force way to do it :P |
11:45.00 | Thelyna | Kalroth: what sort of numbers does he do on Teron? |
11:45.03 | Health | Orc smash! |
11:45.18 | Thelyna | that's another fight I'd kinda like to tank |
11:45.29 | Thelyna | exorcism hoooo! |
11:45.35 | Kalroth | Thelyna: I don't know, but I've never had aggro issues on Teron, being fury and whatnot |
11:45.36 | Antiarc | What would be interesting about tanking Teron, really? |
11:45.46 | Kalroth | Thelyna: I'm guessing around 1000-1200 |
11:45.50 | evl | Antiarc: watching some noob fail on the ghosts for thee 15th time |
11:45.53 | nevcairiel | for the tank teron is only a default fight |
11:45.55 | Thelyna | the main challenge to tanking teron is staying ahead of the dps |
11:46.10 | evl | vanish hooooo |
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11:46.15 | Antiarc | Our tank seems to do fine, but we use a warrior, who benefits a lot from Teron's low AC |
11:46.27 | evl | he takes sick melee damage |
11:46.29 | Zhinjio | man, I picked the perfect time to post my gem auctions. |
11:46.30 | Antiarc | Yeah |
11:46.30 | Thelyna | teron is also a demon |
11:46.32 | Zhinjio | there weren't ANY in AH |
11:46.33 | Zhinjio | none. |
11:46.36 | Thelyna | or undead, I can't remember |
11:46.39 | Antiarc | Undead. |
11:47.07 | Thelyna | so I figure in my regular tanking gear I should be able to put out 1k easily |
11:47.19 | Kalroth | You don't have mana issues? |
11:47.19 | Thelyna | did 900 on prince last week, but had mana issues, plus had to move him |
11:47.35 | Thelyna | I wouldn't on teron I'm pretty sure |
11:47.48 | Thelyna | pretty sure he hits harder than prince :p |
11:47.55 | Antiarc | He hits like a truck |
11:47.57 | Kalroth | Oh yes |
11:48.05 | Antiarc | Plus incinerate and random shadow damage |
11:48.11 | Kalroth | Teron and Bloodboil are the two worst tank killers in BT |
11:48.23 | Antiarc | Bloodboil can go DIAF, really. |
11:48.29 | Kalroth | Yup, I hate that fight too |
11:48.32 | Thelyna | yeah, last time we did teron (first kill) I was incinerate dispell bitch (+ random raid healing) |
11:48.35 | Kalroth | It's stupidly random |
11:48.41 | Antiarc | I don't enjoy that fight. Getting fel raged makes it amusing, briefly, but overall it just sucks. |
11:48.43 | Thelyna | I was prot spec for the fight, so my healing was pretty gimp |
11:48.48 | Kalroth | FEL RAGE FIRE MAGE, LOL |
11:48.49 | thul | aawww |
11:48.51 | Antiarc | :( |
11:48.55 | thul | who was the alliance ravencrester here? :-P |
11:49.06 | Antiarc | Fire mage + fel rage = pay the repair dood 90% of the time. |
11:49.20 | Thelyna | Antiarc: bop lawlz! |
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11:49.38 | Thelyna | (I've read up on the fight, so I know that's a bad idea, I'm being stupid) |
11:49.39 | Antiarc | We finally killed him with a single mage in the raid |
11:49.41 | Kalroth | Have fun healing the tanks with a 10+ stack running already |
11:49.55 | Antiarc | bop = instawipe :P |
11:49.56 | Thelyna | I'd rather heal the tanks than a mage tbh |
11:50.15 | Thelyna | assuming the healers can react quickly enough, which is a pretty large assumption |
11:50.21 | Thelyna | especially given our healers |
11:50.31 | Kalroth | When I form raid for BB, I usually kick as many mages as possible. First I remove those that insist on casting when fel rage tanking. |
11:50.38 | Antiarc | Heheh. |
11:50.43 | Kalroth | "I CAN DODGE WHILE CASTING FIREBALL, RLY" |
11:50.46 | Thelyna | I tell them every week that I'll pay their repair bills if they die from healing aggro in hyjal |
11:51.05 | Thelyna | and every week I either die, or get saved by ardent defender, within 10s of the start of every pull |
11:51.35 | Thelyna | course, ardent defender is pretty hax, and it's the main reason I go prot for hyjal |
11:52.11 | Antiarc | I got owned by Cheat Death in WSG the other day :( |
11:52.30 | Antiarc | I had this rogue dead to rights. He ran away, I hit deadly throw. ABSORB. And then his buddies beat me up. |
11:52.36 | Antiarc | :( |
11:52.57 | Thelyna | obviously the solution is to bring your own buddies |
11:53.07 | Antiarc | PUGgin WSG is srsly for the lose |
11:53.31 | thul | Antiarc: quite correct |
11:53.34 | Antiarc | But, it's fun doing BGs in PVE gear, because it outgears most any PUG you run into. Cloth wearers in blues just sorta evaporate. |
11:53.46 | thul | I have started doing the funnies with shadowstep |
11:53.46 | Antiarc | So the undergeared clothies on the other side make it tolerable. |
11:53.54 | thul | jump off ledges shadowstepping back |
11:53.55 | thul | etc |
11:53.56 | thul | yehaw |
11:55.50 | Health | "OMG lulz he jumped.." |
11:56.05 | Antiarc | I should give that a shot at Tempest Keep |
11:56.12 | Lukian | hahahah I get anywhere near the SW AH atm and I get DC'ed, due to lag. |
11:56.19 | Antiarc | Though that would require speccing Shadowstep, and then I'd feel dirty. |
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11:58.45 | CIA-8 | Spyglass: |
11:58.45 | CIA-8 | - added deDE locals |
11:58.51 | thul | Antiarc: it is fun :-P |
11:59.11 | thul | esp running off a cliff, vanishing, shadowstepping back and ambushing the stupid mages :-D |
12:00.11 | Thelyna | Antiarc: have you seen the movie of the jump from TK to HFP? |
12:00.35 | Thelyna | uses rocket boots and a slowfall effect and something else |
12:01.57 | Thelyna | I should try doing some bgs in my healing pve gear ... then swap to spelldamage weapon/shield |
12:02.24 | Thelyna | could probably shock a few people |
12:02.33 | Xinhuan | err? |
12:02.39 | Xinhuan | jump from TK to HFP? |
12:02.53 | Thelyna | it's on youtube, lemme see if I can dig it up |
12:03.00 | Xinhuan | oh you mean that shadowstep bug? |
12:03.10 | Thelyna | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZFNj4b8CWQ |
12:03.14 | thul | shadowstepbuff wtb tonight |
12:03.17 | Thelyna | nope, straight-up jump I'm pretty sure |
12:04.21 | Xinhuan | :o |
12:05.14 | Thelyna | could probably jump from HFP to SMV as well, or something like that |
12:05.20 | Thelyna | assuming you have a festive mug |
12:05.44 | Thelyna | I'm guessing overwater fatigue would prevent you jumping from teldrassil to azuremyst or darkshore |
12:05.57 | Thelyna | er, deepwater fatigue |
12:06.03 | Lukian | Xinhuan, woot! Jubei finally crashed again :D |
12:07.28 | Xinhuan | heh |
12:08.24 | Lukian | I was getting sick of being desync'ed after every 'trade' |
12:08.29 | Lukian | ie. auction posting / mail sent. |
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12:10.24 | Lukian | haha |
12:10.31 | Lukian | apparently instance servers are down |
12:11.20 | Lukian | hahah |
12:11.25 | Kalroth | I bet Xinhuan broke it. |
12:11.29 | Lukian | I just cooked an item and got dc'ed |
12:11.45 | Lukian | maybe I should go make dinner |
12:12.12 | Lukian | haha it crashed again |
12:12.18 | Lukian | (or they emergency downed it) |
12:12.35 | Lukian | there's usually a bogus shutdown timer when the do the latter though |
12:12.56 | Lukian | "This realm will be shutdown in 15mins -- which suddenly changes to 5, then 2, then goes offline" :D |
12:17.55 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hxZxVcdVgsAuqox < hybrid jack-of-all-trades build? |
12:18.08 | Health | Realms has been really unstable the last month |
12:18.14 | Health | At least our battlegroup |
12:19.47 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-38Y9GPLPw |
12:22.08 | Lukian | hahah peoples characters are stuck in instances! :D |
12:22.15 | Lukian | owned! |
12:22.48 | Camma | what realms are down US / EU? |
12:23.36 | Fisker- | O_o |
12:23.44 | Fisker- | illegal danish 2 sucked |
12:23.51 | Fisker- | sucked so much beyond comprehension |
12:23.59 | Health | All danes fucking suck |
12:24.03 | Health | no shit it sucked! |
12:24.09 | Health | Right kal? |
12:24.19 | Fisker- | fuck you |
12:24.21 | Fisker- | :D |
12:24.28 | Health | cute |
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12:25.18 | Kalroth | Health is a wannabe dane. He's too dumb though, so he's stuck in Sweden. |
12:25.33 | Fisker- | yeah |
12:25.39 | Health | I have to fucking work with danes |
12:25.47 | Health | telephone conference tomorrow.. I feel dirty |
12:26.52 | Fisker- | it's the other way around though |
12:27.15 | Health | All danes think male swedes are gay? |
12:27.30 | Fisker- | nah |
12:27.35 | Fisker- | all male swedes are gay |
12:27.53 | Health | I think they impersonated a gay swedish male when they tried to |
12:28.42 | Kalroth | We know that all male swedes are gay. |
12:28.50 | Health | True |
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12:29.31 | Health | Shadowed: MagicTrack on svn yet? |
12:31.03 | Xinhuan | it isn't on it |
12:31.12 | Xinhuan | because nobody has his permission to upload it there |
12:31.22 | Xinhuan | author's permission that is |
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12:33.32 | Fin | hey er Xinhuan, what are you doing in our server channel |
12:33.35 | Fin | and why aren't I an op |
12:33.48 | Fin | wait, this is #wowace |
12:33.51 | Xinhuan | what? |
12:34.11 | Xinhuan | nice fin |
12:34.13 | Health | You suck fin |
12:34.36 | JoshBorke | ... |
12:34.55 | Fin | Health: you suck |
12:35.03 | Health | Thanks |
12:35.05 | Health | Do I suck good? |
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12:35.09 | Fisker- | ~fail Fin |
12:35.10 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
12:35.10 | Deviad | Hello |
12:35.11 | Fin | worth the money |
12:35.18 | Deviad | Can anyone pls tell me how to lock the buttons on the petbar? |
12:35.28 | Deviad | Because, unfortunately, bartender does not lock it. |
12:35.30 | Xinhuan | interface options |
12:35.35 | Deviad | Is there any addon for this purpose? |
12:35.35 | Xinhuan | in default ui |
12:35.43 | Xinhuan | it says right there "lock action bars" |
12:36.07 | Deviad | OK |
12:36.13 | Deviad | I thought it didn't include the petbar |
12:36.16 | Deviad | let's see |
12:36.17 | Xinhuan | (p.s. might nto work) |
12:36.29 | Deviad | works, thx |
12:36.29 | Fin | yeah, I'd like to be able to do that too |
12:37.35 | Fin | huh, didn't think to look there - I use the /bar lock toggle slash command in a macro all the time and it doesn't affect the pet bar, I just assumed the option hadn't been added for some reason |
12:38.22 | nevcairiel | the interface option "lock" locks the petbar |
12:38.25 | nevcairiel | bartender doesnt |
12:39.20 | Fin | OK, not that that makes any sense :) but I can accept that |
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12:39.57 | nevcairiel | its because bartender doesnt re-create the petbar, just uses the blizzard bar |
12:42.11 | Fin | I'm guessing you don't play a class with a pet much? :) |
12:42.18 | Fin | it's fine, btw, I'm not complaining :) |
12:42.31 | Fin | I've only just started my first character that uses the pet bar much |
12:42.51 | Health | ... you have all your actions bound to the keyboard.. NOOB |
12:42.53 | Health | CLICKER |
12:43.08 | Fin | FUCKER |
12:43.23 | Health | Thanks |
12:43.31 | Health | Me too |
12:43.40 | Fin | with Modality it's basically everything I've always ever wanted |
12:43.42 | Health | Been using BT since.. 2 |
12:43.50 | Health | wtf is modality? |
12:43.57 | Fin | (although, heh, the pet bar doesn't work with it :) |
12:44.27 | Fin | it's an addon for BT3 that lets you specify conditions in which each bar will show up |
12:44.37 | Health | How fantastic |
12:45.30 | Fin | actually not *everything* - of course I have wishes, but it's totally awesome and nevcairiel is great and so is Modality's author who I can't remember and I wonder if you said this sentence all at once without pausing you'd die before the end because you hadn't taken a breath |
12:45.37 | Fin | -, |
12:45.50 | Fin | yep Health, it is fantastic |
12:45.59 | Health | I had to take a breath |
12:46.29 | nevcairiel | Fin: actually, i play a lock, but i use my keyboard to use the pet actions, so i dont even manage to drag them off :D |
12:47.18 | Fin | I've got my bars set up all nice so that some only show up if I'm in combat, some show up normally but hide if I mount up cos I don't need them, all sorts of different things |
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12:47.39 | Fin | I've got one with all my pet summons on it that only shows up if I don't have a pet already |
12:48.24 | Fin | nevcairiel: there's a few other minor differences I've noticed, not enough to bother saying anything before the subject came up, but they're basically the improvements over the default bars that you made :) |
12:48.55 | nevcairiel | bt4 will probably have its own pet bar and not use the blizzard stuff *shrug |
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12:49.16 | Health | You are a pet bar! |
12:49.40 | nevcairiel | you are a pet |
12:50.38 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Great. I really would like to put macros on my pet bar, which seems to be not possible at the moment |
12:50.51 | Fin | hey one thing I never quite understood, maybe you could explain - it's possible to make a bar have less buttons, right? when I first played around with BT3 I assumed that if you did that it would mean you could increase the number of buttons on another bar, but that's not the case - was it meant to be like that? |
12:51.08 | Fin | or was that just a bad assumption |
12:51.17 | nevcairiel | that wont be possible with bt4 either SunTsu; petbar is only for pet spells, if you need macros, use a default bar |
12:51.42 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Well, I want to use pet macros.... |
12:51.50 | Funkeh` | yo |
12:52.13 | SunTsu | Just like focus stuff with seduction |
12:52.18 | Fin | oh hey! actually that's another question I had :) just a general one though, nothing really to do with BT3, and I can probably just go read the cogwheel's macro guide to find out, but: can you get pets to cast specific spells in a macro? |
12:52.18 | nevcairiel | Fin: it was meant to be like that. decreasing the number of buttons was only there to allow people to free some space, because empty buttons are not "click-through" |
12:53.10 | SunTsu | Fin: Sure, just cast it |
12:53.13 | Fin | nevcairiel: aha, OK. actually that's how I use the option, just thought the freed up buttons would be available elsewhere. I guess that would be a bit tricky to code though, hmm. |
12:53.28 | Fin | what, I can /cast <pet's spell>? |
12:53.30 | Fin | huh |
12:53.35 | Fin | see, told you I was a pet noob |
12:53.45 | Kalroth | ur noobcaek! |
12:53.53 | Zhinjio | "me" isn't a reserved word in Lua, is it? |
12:54.00 | Zhinjio | unlike "this" or what have you |
12:54.27 | SunTsu | Fin: Either that or my seduction macro plainly works with magic ;) |
12:54.27 | Health | I have that! |
12:54.50 | Health | /cast [target=player] Devour Magic |
12:54.55 | SunTsu | Fin: There are lots of warlock macros on wowwiki |
12:54.58 | Fin | Zhinjio: no |
12:55.02 | Fin | Zhinjio: The following keywords are reserved and cannot be used as names: and break do else elseif end false for function if |
12:55.05 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
12:55.08 | Fin | whoooops |
12:55.10 | Fin | sorry |
12:55.11 | Fin | but, that's the entire list |
12:55.15 | Health | Thanks Fin |
12:55.37 | Camma | /target mage |
12:55.37 | Camma | /cast Big Red Cat eat Mage |
12:56.10 | Fin | SunTsu: guess I should go look... I like to try and work out macros myself rather than use cookbook recipes though, otherwise when I want to change them I don't know how - but thanks, I should go check anyway |
12:56.42 | SunTsu | Fin: I normally use them as an inspiration for my own macros |
12:57.01 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
12:57.17 | Fin | woo |
12:57.20 | nevcairiel | see Funkeh`, i told ya it would be released |
12:57.22 | Fin | cheers Funkeh` |
12:57.54 | nevcairiel | wtb torrent |
12:59.25 | Health | You are an old torrent |
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12:59.37 | Fin | your MUM |
12:59.40 | Health | Thanks |
12:59.44 | Health | ~seen sole |
12:59.46 | purl | sole <n=chatzill@118-92-14-211.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 11h 47m 48s ago, saying: 'anybody else not like the fact that all the libraries are seperate addons now =\'. |
12:59.49 | Fin | Kalroth: your MUM also |
12:59.51 | Health | SLACKER |
13:00.05 | Zhinjio | Thanks Fin |
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13:17.54 | Funkeh` | torrent up |
13:19.00 | Fisker- | lulz |
13:19.06 | Fisker- | who'd want to watch illegal danish 2 |
13:19.07 | Fisker- | it sucked |
13:19.08 | Fisker- | horribly |
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13:19.45 | nevcairiel | you suck horribly |
13:19.59 | Fisker- | yeah but the movie still sucks more |
13:20.18 | Tinyboom | i found it funny:D |
13:20.27 | Tinyboom | ~lart Fisker- |
13:20.27 | purl | frags Fisker- with his BFG9000 |
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13:21.02 | Fisker- | It had some funnies |
13:21.29 | Fisker- | But it felt like watching an episode of america's funniest home videos |
13:21.30 | Fisker- | except |
13:21.32 | Fisker- | not that funny |
13:21.52 | Fisker- | well thoe home videos are NEVER funny anyways |
13:21.59 | Fisker- | so i guess it felt exactly like that |
13:22.01 | Fisker- | :D |
13:22.48 | Chompers | what did you watch? |
13:22.59 | Fisker- | illegal danish 2 |
13:23.36 | Chompers | oooh |
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13:25.04 | Fin | hooray, I have enough netherweave to respec to tailoring |
13:25.04 | Fin | woo |
13:25.48 | Health | k |
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13:49.16 | Fin | do Sporeling Snacks work on warlock minions? |
13:49.31 | nevcairiel | nop |
13:49.37 | Fin | bottom holes |
13:49.40 | nevcairiel | only huntards |
13:50.53 | SunTsu | Sporling snacks are a great fun. "I just fed the whole stack to my pet, that damn stuff has no effect" "Tried eating it yourself instead" "D'Oh!" |
13:51.22 | Fin | haha |
13:55.07 | Fin | (+e) |
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14:34.37 | chexsum | preparation outside of a bg is fun |
14:34.51 | chexsum | i think a gm has fixed us though |
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14:42.04 | Fisker- | so how do you shot hax chexsum? |
14:42.06 | Fisker- | just random bug? |
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14:52.36 | Uhuru | Hi, is rabbit here ? |
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14:57.09 | Fisker- | not at the moment Uhuru |
14:57.50 | what-K | hi all i look for an alternative for DamageMeter has someone a tipp ? |
14:58.15 | SunTsu | what-K: recount |
14:58.17 | capullo | recount, assessement, recap, swstats |
14:58.46 | what-K | thx and what will u use |
14:58.52 | capullo | recount |
14:58.55 | what-K | whats the best ? |
14:59.20 | exor674 | recount! it has pie charts! |
14:59.23 | Osstia | Recount is the most comprehensive I think |
14:59.25 | exor674 | everyone loves a good pie chart |
14:59.33 | capullo | put the best features from all addon into on and this will be the best :P |
14:59.33 | Osstia | I used to use swstats |
14:59.40 | Fin | so, is it possible to get WoW to use British English? |
15:00.50 | capullo | i miss sessions from the previous fights in recount |
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15:02.39 | Lukian | Fin, lol being anal? :D |
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15:06.17 | what-K | has recount a button on the minimap ? |
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15:07.47 | kneeki | hey all |
15:12.53 | Uhuru | what-K Violation is good too |
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15:14.55 | SunTsu | what-K: Basically it comes down to: "Check them out an use what suits you best" |
15:15.03 | what-K | thx |
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17:01.32 | MrCrispy | anyone a prot warrior ? |
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17:02.50 | SunTsu | MrCrispy: Maybe you'll get more answers if you'd just ask what you want to ask. Or do you expect 200 guys to say yes or no to that question? |
17:03.37 | MrCrispy | lol sorry i dont really have a questions persay I just wanted to compare talents |
17:04.43 | MrCrispy | I took a year off got burned out and am just now getting back into it |
17:08.21 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0cZVxZ0EpoIMz0est |
17:08.58 | kergoth | rofl, today's penny-arcade is great (and the previous one) |
17:09.03 | Codayus | General purpose build. Points in imp TC and imp demo shout could be removed if you can rely on an OT being around to do it. |
17:09.45 | MrCrispy | groovy man ty soo much thats exactly what i needed |
17:09.47 | Fisker- | no |
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17:10.04 | Fisker- | today's penny arcade is plagarism |
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17:11.47 | Chompers | Fisker- link |
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17:12.03 | Fisker- | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
17:12.53 | MrCrispy | shouldnt i have points in sheild mastery as well though? |
17:13.49 | Amadeo | it's a true comic |
17:13.54 | Amadeo | That's why I'd never get a FigurePrint |
17:14.20 | Codayus | Probably, but it's not an amazing talent. It adds a minor bit of mitigation but no threat gen. Depending on your taste, your guild, your role, and where your raiding...sure? |
17:14.41 | Amadeo | Good idea for a company though...they probably know nobody will print out lame looking characters, and since most of the high end gear shares the same textures, they hardly have to modify anything to make them :P |
17:14.53 | Fisker- | http://wow.mmolecule.com/news/news.mmo?id=bd30ff82-f1ce-4986-ac11-1447df561c9b |
17:15.23 | MrCrispy | that makes sense weve just started doing kara |
17:15.48 | MrCrispy | also whats an amazing talent? never heard of that |
17:16.21 | Amadeo | Fisker-: I'm sure everyone's thought of it one time or another, I can't imagine they're stealing stuff |
17:16.36 | Codayus | Amazing talents would be Devestate, Vitality, Focused Rage, Imp Shield Block, Defiance? |
17:16.59 | MrCrispy | ah |
17:17.37 | MrCrispy | i have a probelm with my intercept also not sure what im doin wrong there |
17:18.09 | Codayus | Here, more info than you'd ever want on prot warriors: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18771-protection_warrior/ |
17:18.24 | MrCrispy | gracias |
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17:19.36 | Lukian | MrCrispy, I got an intercept the other day, but someone else aggroed the mob before it hit me :D |
17:20.42 | MrCrispy | its just difficult for me to do |
17:21.08 | MrCrispy | i play with my left and I used to be right handed |
17:21.25 | MrCrispy | the right hand has nerved damage and i cant use it that well |
17:22.50 | MrCrispy | so anytime i find a way to make the game easier i jump on it |
17:23.45 | Lukian | keybind it |
17:23.49 | Xinhuan | ~seen kagaro |
17:23.51 | purl | kagaro <n=sals@12.38.10.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20d 1h 47m 11s ago, saying: 'morning'. |
17:23.54 | Lukian | to each party target |
17:24.12 | Lukian | or something ^_^ |
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17:36.47 | Elsia | hmm that'd be an addon idea: have an aggro monitor propagate targets to the MT somehow |
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17:49.28 | kagaro | afternoon |
17:49.54 | kagaro | Xinhuan you were looking for me? |
17:50.44 | Xinhuan | oh hey |
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17:51.07 | Xinhuan | you accepting PMs? |
17:51.13 | kagaro | should be |
17:51.36 | kagaro | just re-installed colloquy on my laptop |
17:57.36 | Chompers | [RDKP04][24:1/1:CHARS Kirous!Kirous!10/27/07 18:09:48!SHOW][GUILD][Bananass] |
17:57.51 | Chompers | does anyone know what addon pastes that into the guild addon channel? |
17:58.10 | Lukian | [RDKP04] |
17:59.12 | Chompers | it's endless spam all the time |
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18:00.34 | MrCrispy | register to pm? |
18:01.17 | JamieHangover | oh, I gotta do that. |
18:01.37 | MrCrispy | how do we register? |
18:01.54 | JamieHangover | no clue at all. |
18:01.58 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
18:02.04 | MrCrispy | its diff everywhere |
18:02.08 | MrCrispy | thanks boss |
18:03.10 | JamieHangover | I think I regged. |
18:03.46 | MrCrispy | i think im medicated |
18:04.07 | JamieHangover | I know you are. I am going to crack open a beer and start medicating too. |
18:04.22 | MrCrispy | k got it lol |
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18:08.44 | Stan_ | ~seen Kaelten |
18:08.47 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 43m 17s ago, saying: 'TinyWigs?'. |
18:11.20 | bigzero | anyone know where those demons are that are always banished by the dark portal? |
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18:16.24 | Xinhuan | huh |
18:17.38 | MoonWolf | ?? |
18:17.42 | bigzero | the guys that get banished at 1% |
18:17.49 | bigzero | to lvl weapon skil |
18:18.04 | bigzero | i can't find them and I have no clue what they're called |
18:18.12 | MoonWolf | stopped existing. |
18:18.29 | bigzero | they were there yesterday... |
18:19.31 | bigzero | found them |
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18:20.25 | Xinhuan | lol |
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18:23.11 | Josh_Borke | bigzero: they walk around in the blasted lands, no? |
18:23.20 | Industrial | servant of blah |
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18:29.57 | Osstia | I like the dude in shadow moon now |
18:30.12 | Osstia | as long as you can kill the air elementals, he works well |
18:31.23 | deltron | air elementals suck |
18:31.24 | deltron | for me |
18:31.31 | deltron | same with those elite trees in skettis |
18:32.17 | Ellipsis | I love those trees |
18:32.20 | Ellipsis | they're so fun |
18:34.53 | Amadeo | Did Night Elves turn into the ideal PvPriest now due to the racial spell buffs? |
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18:37.07 | Codayus | Not sure about ideal. But they're certainly decent. |
18:37.23 | Codayus | The FW replacement spell Dwarves and Draenei got is good too though. |
18:37.50 | Osstia | and berserking + curse of shit still sucks ass for my troll |
18:38.09 | Osstia | one day blizzard is going to fix my spine so i stand up straight and give me a decent racial |
18:40.13 | Josh_Borke | you mean humanoid |
18:40.20 | Josh_Borke | erm, human |
18:40.28 | Codayus | ? |
18:40.39 | Josh_Borke | wasn't it humans and dwarves? |
18:40.45 | Josh_Borke | no, it makes more sense to be drainei |
18:40.48 | Osstia | no dranai and dwarves |
18:40.49 | Josh_Borke | don't mind me, i'm just stupid |
18:40.50 | Codayus | Josh_Borke: No. |
18:40.53 | Codayus | Heh |
18:41.41 | kagaro | Ammo you around? |
18:42.01 | kagaro | nevcairiel you around? |
18:42.11 | nevcairiel | ? |
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18:42.27 | kagaro | you open for a pm nev? |
18:43.38 | Hjalte | This is odd. My game is starting to freeze for a few seconds when doing anything that has to do with ITEMS :\ |
18:44.17 | Josh_Borke | ~hug DarkImakuni |
18:44.18 | purl | ACTION jumps into DarkImakuni's lap and huggles and *hugs* DarkImakuni |
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18:44.41 | DarkImakuni | cheers Josh *shoves purl off his lap* |
18:45.21 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: you mean when your inventory changes? |
18:46.09 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: No, it's rather weird. For example when i mouseover an item link in the chat it sometimes freezes. And just now, when I went to repair, when i talked to the repair-man the game froze too. |
18:46.32 | Ellipsis | what addons do you have that modify your item tooltips? |
18:47.13 | Hjalte | Ratingbuster, KC_Items and TekKompare for showing me links in the chat on mouseover |
18:47.21 | Hjalte | and Mendeleev |
18:47.36 | Ellipsis | all up-to-date? |
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18:48.04 | Hjalte | I'm using WAU, but havent checked for new update to tekkompare. I just found out however, that my durabilityfu is broken somehow. |
18:48.36 | Silowyi | this hunter friend of mine |
18:48.40 | Silowyi | has good res gear |
18:48.50 | Silowyi | but is completely unable to solo anyone 1v1 |
18:49.03 | Silowyi | which means in 2v2, as a resto druid, it is very annoying to play with him :P |
18:50.42 | Amadeo | Does he use keybinds and mouselook? |
18:51.00 | alext | Hjalte: KC_Items still does that to me which is why i still have it disabled |
18:51.02 | Silowyi | well like |
18:51.05 | Silowyi | for example, just now |
18:51.12 | alext | happens mostly in my bank and my own bags when i mouseover certain items |
18:51.22 | Silowyi | a warrior took him from 100 to 0, while he was out of line of sight of me |
18:51.26 | Hjalte | alext: I've been using it for a while, but only just now been having this problem :( |
18:51.43 | alext | I only had the issue about 1-2 months ago and it was KC_Items after patch 2.2 |
18:51.44 | Silowyi | cause he was going around the pillar in miraculously exactly the opposite way I was, every time |
18:51.46 | alext | somethin like that |
18:51.58 | Silowyi | so I couldn't heal him |
18:52.00 | alext | try disabling KC_Items for the hell of it and see if that fixes the issue for you |
18:52.14 | Hjalte | alext: I'm trying, I don't want hiccups in the raid :) |
18:52.17 | Silowyi | but the big thing is he only took the warrior from 100 to about 80%, and there was no other healer |
18:52.45 | Amadeo | Silowyi: Maybe just work on communication/teamwork so he won't do that |
18:52.57 | Silowyi | he doesn't have a mic |
18:53.05 | Silowyi | which is a huge problem |
18:53.07 | Amadeo | do you have one? at least you can bark orders! |
18:53.12 | Silowyi | yeah |
18:53.13 | Amadeo | MORE SHOTS! |
18:53.49 | kagaro | hey nev, i need to talk with you for a few minutes |
18:54.23 | kagaro | r/nev/nevcairiel/ |
18:54.51 | kagaro | nevcairiel got a min to pm with me |
18:55.24 | Amadeo | Hm, that's wild..they're bringing Skype to the PSP |
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18:55.45 | nevcairiel | kagaro: sure, but i'm raiding, so excue me if i dont respond instantly :P |
18:56.02 | kagaro | gotcha |
18:59.40 | Cheads | Speedball 2 Retail is now activated whoho =) |
18:59.55 | Silowyi | there's a fucking fire mage and he goes after the fucking paladin |
18:59.57 | Silowyi | wtf |
19:00.40 | Silowyi | sure enough gets pom pyroed for 5k+ |
19:00.45 | Silowyi | hots ain't gonna cure that |
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19:16.46 | Silowyi | garrrrrrrgh |
19:16.53 | Silowyi | so I'm kiting this rogue around |
19:16.57 | Silowyi | telling my hunter to get on him |
19:17.05 | Silowyi | the rogue manages to get out of combat |
19:17.07 | Silowyi | mount |
19:17.12 | Silowyi | chase me down and stunlock me |
19:17.21 | Silowyi | wtf is that |
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19:18.54 | Osstia | hahahaha |
19:19.08 | Osstia | coming from a struggling arena player, thats funny |
19:19.24 | Silowyi | I'm struggling right now |
19:19.27 | Osstia | I am not very good. I am a greeat PVE'er, but in arenas i struggle |
19:19.27 | Silowyi | my hunter is hideous :/ |
19:19.35 | Osstia | but I have fun |
19:19.55 | Osstia | and I am finally getting some gear so it might get better |
19:20.02 | Osstia | I will hit 300 resil tonight |
19:20.23 | Osstia | What class are you Silowyi? |
19:20.27 | Silowyi | resto druid |
19:20.30 | Osstia | ahh, nice |
19:20.36 | Osstia | I am a disc/holy priest |
19:20.45 | Osstia | and I pla with a rogue partner |
19:21.14 | Osstia | What battle group? |
19:24.16 | Silowyi | Rampage |
19:24.23 | Silowyi | tough battlegroup this season |
19:24.29 | Silowyi | last season it was a pretty easy one |
19:24.56 | Silowyi | this season we got a lot of people mixin' it up in full T6, or close to full T3 because they had T6 last season :P |
19:25.23 | Silowyi | In the 1600 bracket we've encountered teams with T3 weapons already |
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19:25.32 | whizter | hi |
19:25.33 | Silowyi | course some of them probably smurfed |
19:26.17 | whizter | can someone tell me how to disable the fading of pitbull unitframes when out of combat? i can't find the option. I want them always at 100% |
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19:27.20 | kagaro | ayone here an engineer with mote extractor? |
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19:30.23 | Xuerian | kagaro: Yea |
19:30.38 | kagaro | could you do me a favor? |
19:30.43 | Xuerian | whizter: Disable combat fader module, range check module. both fade the frame |
19:30.54 | Xuerian | kagaro: Unless it involves logging on. |
19:30.59 | kagaro | next time your out using the mote extractor could you see what events get fired |
19:32.08 | whizter | Xuerian, ok thx |
19:32.29 | Xuerian | kagaro: Sorry, no-can-do. Currently in a "Mysteriously vanished" state on that server. |
19:32.45 | kagaro | kk |
19:33.18 | Xinhuan | lol vanished state |
19:33.26 | Xinhuan | raid dodging? |
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19:38.33 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Nah, just got bored of the char (again) |
19:39.58 | Silowyi | resto druid, mm hunter just doesn't work, at least not when the mm hunter can't kill crap |
19:40.15 | Silowyi | we lost to a prot warrior boomkin team after a 15 minute fight |
19:41.14 | mort | LOL |
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19:41.43 | Silowyi | I know right? |
19:41.45 | Silowyi | wtf is he doing |
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19:42.38 | mort | drain the moonkin, nuke it. done |
19:43.06 | Pkekyo| | yay, just got my 3color desert BDU :) |
19:45.05 | what-K | can someone plz help me wizh a ms template ? |
19:45.07 | Stan_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw <. olol |
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19:46.19 | dylanm | what-K: ms template? |
19:46.25 | Silowyi | wow we beat a team |
19:46.26 | Silowyi | they |
19:46.51 | Silowyi | were RPing |
19:46.54 | what-K | dylanm mom |
19:46.58 | Silowyi | all their abilities had macros |
19:46.59 | what-K | my eng is not so good |
19:47.01 | Silowyi | like |
19:47.14 | dylanm | what-K: I just don't know what that is. |
19:47.17 | Silowyi | Holyguardian shouts to his teammates to attack |
19:47.24 | dylanm | Nice. |
19:47.30 | Silowyi | Holyguardian heals his teammate. |
19:48.10 | what-K | dylanm look plz |
19:48.11 | what-K | http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?050050203520105200212000550003500501000000000200000000000000000000 |
19:48.15 | mort | damn rp servers *g* |
19:48.16 | dylanm | That last one seems unnecessary. |
19:48.37 | dylanm | Ohhh a mortal strike build |
19:50.09 | mort | i need better pvpgear for my druid :( |
19:50.10 | what-K | can u help me too make it better |
19:50.10 | Pkekyo| | Stan_: lmfao, who comes up with this shit? |
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19:51.21 | Chompers | is that for pvp or what? |
19:52.26 | Pkekyo| | bloody better be :p |
19:53.01 | what-K | Chompers ye |
19:53.20 | Stan_ | Pkekyo|: dunno^^ |
19:54.40 | bigzero | is there an addon that prevents you from logging out after being afk for a long time? |
19:54.57 | Chompers | like in av! |
19:55.16 | bigzero | well...potentially, i was going to use it for something else |
19:55.45 | dylanm | Anger Management seems like a no-brainer |
19:56.46 | what-K | Chompers yes |
19:56.58 | dylanm | Imp. slam, Flurry... that's all good stuff |
19:57.12 | bigzero | kinda odd if there isn't one...I might write one up, have a 1-liner so far, but it's a little chatty |
19:59.16 | bigzero | durcyn, ping |
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20:00.01 | durcyn | bigzero: hrm? |
20:00.54 | bigzero | were you testing glowfosho last night by any chance? |
20:00.55 | durcyn | loaded fine after the locale director was committed |
20:00.55 | durcyn | directory* |
20:00.55 | bigzero | great |
20:00.55 | bigzero | thanks |
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20:13.52 | kagaro | nevcairiel you still in a raid? |
20:14.00 | nevcairiel | yeah |
20:14.15 | nevcairiel | but thrash right now, so if it doesnt take too long :P |
20:14.27 | kagaro | see my pm ? |
20:14.29 | nevcairiel | *trash o.O |
20:14.30 | nevcairiel | no |
20:14.35 | nevcairiel | are you registered? |
20:14.50 | kagaro | i am but forgot my password :( |
20:15.17 | nevcairiel | cant send pms when not being registered ^^ |
20:22.18 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, you can fix that by sending Kagaro a pm first ;p |
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20:26.52 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel |
20:26.54 | Fisker- | i was right |
20:26.55 | Fisker- | RIGHT |
20:27.06 | nevcairiel | you're always.. |
20:27.08 | nevcairiel | wrong! |
20:27.25 | Fisker- | NO |
20:27.46 | Fisker- | you can't stop me |
20:28.55 | Lukian | <nevcairiel> cant send pms <- being able to send PMS would be great :D |
20:29.14 | Xinhuan | orly |
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20:34.01 | Kagaro | Ammo you around? |
20:34.28 | [Ammo] | yes |
20:34.37 | Kagaro | you got a min for a pm? |
20:34.59 | [Ammo] | sure |
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20:39.25 | else_where | is there any "trick" to get the waterfall to accept mouse buttons as keybinds using the "text" type? or should i make a custom config screen if i really needed that functionality?(i dont realy, just bugging me that i cant) |
20:40.34 | [Ammo] | use the 'keybinding' aceoptions type |
20:41.05 | else_where | i did, but waterfall overrides the capturing of the mouse click as a binding and uses it to dismiss the grabing of one |
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20:44.17 | else_where | you could always *ick* auto-generate them Lukian |
20:44.41 | else_where | lol, worked wonderfully for AceEvents =) |
20:44.53 | Lukian | else_where, how would I go about that? |
20:45.08 | Lukian | I'm guessing it'd give latest revision and a basic description |
20:45.14 | Lukian | and I'd just need to tack in a screenshot? |
20:45.52 | else_where | there's instructions on the wiki somewhere, in the adding pages section i believe |
20:46.06 | bigzero | description could get pulled out of toc..same for author and latest version. There's no use generating api |
20:46.47 | else_where | http://wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format |
20:48.00 | else_where | requires you addons to be in the svn... my dev request email will get answered someday, lol. till then i just code for friends and guildies |
20:50.10 | bigzero | idk if autogenerated addon pages will really be that useful. You can see the short descriptiotn already on files.wowace.com and in WAU |
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20:54.55 | Lukian | hmm the infobox works alright |
20:55.19 | Lukian | pity there's not a standard screenshot filename authors could upload with their addon |
20:59.13 | Osstia | Xinhuan are you around? |
20:59.28 | else_where | that'd just be space taken up on the svn, since you can add images with wikicode to pull off a remotehost |
20:59.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
20:59.51 | Lukian | else_where, true |
21:00.26 | Lukian | Ok I'm going to do through and add infoboxes for all missing addons |
21:00.28 | Lukian | http://wowace.com/wiki/Hourglass |
21:00.35 | Lukian | ^ just did that one, anything else I should include? |
21:01.07 | Osstia | I am reading you BankItems, I am trying to use the ItemButtonTemplate for an addon I am working on, I notice you sue it as well. I can't drag/drop items into my buttons. I am not seeing where you handle that. Do you have any pointers on where I can read up on this? |
21:01.21 | else_where | edits havent commited yet, still showing unclaimed |
21:01.27 | bigzero | Lukian, author email? would that be included if it exists in the toc? |
21:01.35 | Lukian | else_where, well it is unclaimed |
21:01.46 | Xinhuan | bankitems doesn't have ny drag-drop functionality for any of its buttons |
21:01.50 | Xinhuan | hence you don't see anything |
21:01.51 | Lukian | "These addon or library pages are not maintained by the real author." |
21:02.04 | Lukian | I'm not the real author |
21:02.12 | Xinhuan | all the buttons you see are static buttons that display recorded info |
21:02.17 | Xinhuan | there's nothing you can drop on them ;p |
21:02.21 | Osstia | that makes sense |
21:02.32 | Osstia | you build them, then pull the data from the bank and just display |
21:02.43 | Osstia | Okay, then I am sorry to have pestered ya ;) |
21:03.15 | Xinhuan | hehe |
21:03.38 | Xinhuan | most drag/drop code don't really drag/drop anything |
21:03.45 | Xinhuan | they are just "picking up" the item |
21:03.51 | Xinhuan | in a OnDragStart code |
21:04.09 | bigzero | Lukian, did you see my comment? |
21:04.19 | Osstia | I just want to take an item from my bag, drop it onto a button, and then get information from the items that end up in the buttons |
21:04.33 | Lukian | is there anyway to avoid the captcha ? |
21:04.36 | else_where | Lukian, ah got ya, thought you meant you did up a full page =) how is hourglass? i'm still sticking with chronometer(outdated addon my ass :P) |
21:04.37 | Osstia | I'm not seeing any addons that do it, but still looking |
21:04.43 | Lukian | (ie. get an exlusion for my IP) |
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21:05.03 | Lukian | else_where, hmm no idea, it was mentioned elsewhere, so I thought I'd create the page, try it and submit a screenshot |
21:06.03 | Xinhuan | Osstia |
21:06.04 | Xinhuan | <OnReceiveDrag> |
21:06.10 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57810 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: GetInboxText() causes a mail item to become read, work around that while still getting the sale pending totals. |
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21:06.37 | Xinhuan | your button needs a <OnReceiveDrag> receive handler, which checks the cursor's item GetCursorItem() |
21:06.44 | Lukian | I wonder if I can write a bot for this :p |
21:07.02 | Xinhuan | then you of course need to "drop" the item on the cursor to do nothing to that item |
21:07.34 | Osstia | thanks for the tip. plenty of fodder for google now |
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21:12.13 | Xinhuan | ~dict bloat |
21:12.28 | Xinhuan | ~dict 1 bloat |
21:13.16 | else_where | itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, |
21:13.17 | else_where | itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID |
21:13.18 | else_where | itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, |
21:13.19 | else_where | itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID |
21:13.40 | else_where | oops, sorry, bad paste |
21:13.42 | else_where | lol |
21:14.07 | else_where | but those r the basics Osstia =) |
21:15.55 | Osstia | haha |
21:16.12 | else_where | <OnRecieveDrag>if CursorHasItem() then local infoType, info1, info2 = GetCursorInfo() DoSomething(info1) end</OnRecieveDrag> |
21:16.44 | Osstia | I assume I'd want a ClearCursor() in there too so it gets dropped right? |
21:17.40 | else_where | correct |
21:18.23 | else_where | the GetItemInfo( gets you all you need as far textures and link and such |
21:19.11 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57811 10InBank/InBank.toc: InBank: Add context for Cide, the killjoy. |
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21:20.28 | Pkekyo| | how long does VISA give you to pay up? :p |
21:20.46 | FtH|Daemona | anybody knows a jewelcrafting addon that offers the following features: 1. Right-Click on a Gem will show all cuts i can do from that gem 2. Clicking on a Cut in the that way created drop down will cut the gem when the jewelcrafting window is open. |
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21:21.58 | Xinhuan | i don't know of any such addon that does what you say |
21:22.02 | else_where | Not that i know of Daemona, but i started using Skillet and havent looked back since |
21:22.06 | Xinhuan | but you can try out my addon called GemHelper |
21:22.14 | Xinhuan | which is a specialized UI for JCs |
21:22.31 | Xinhuan | and overrides Skillet (and works with Skillet/ATSW) |
21:22.55 | Xinhuan | you can find it on wowace, or see a screenshot in wowinterface |
21:22.59 | FtH|Daemona | naah i am asking for THAT special feature |
21:23.02 | else_where | does it? so many addons to install, so little time to actually play |
21:23.07 | FtH|Daemona | cause our guild jewelcrafters are whining again |
21:23.21 | FtH|Daemona | having to cut tons of gems after a bt loot run |
21:23.24 | FtH|Daemona | for new gear |
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21:23.32 | Xinhuan | then they should just use GemHelper |
21:23.36 | Xinhuan | its a specialized UI for JCs |
21:23.40 | FtH|Daemona | k |
21:23.51 | Xinhuan | that only shows what they can cut |
21:23.59 | Xinhuan | without having to scroll thru 300 gem cuts |
21:24.09 | else_where | i'd like to see an addon that adds tooltip info for raw gems, that lists cuts you can make weith that gem |
21:24.15 | Lukian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AutomaticLFG |
21:24.25 | bigzero | Xinhuan, you mean what they have mats for? |
21:24.29 | Xinhuan | yep |
21:24.40 | bigzero | how is that different from default ui? |
21:24.41 | Xinhuan | it has a bit more than that, including search, filter options |
21:25.10 | Xinhuan | its just different hehe |
21:25.13 | bigzero | lol |
21:25.44 | else_where | Lukian, lolz @ do not add to WoWUI |
21:26.29 | Lukian | every addon starting with 'A' now has an infobox :D |
21:26.37 | Osstia | else_where that would be a nice feature |
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21:27.11 | FtH|Daemona | well Xinhuan i guess i am just think in rogue terms where there was an addon where you just right-click on a lock-box and unlock it, they are kinda asking for a drop-down opening from rightclicking gems and showing possible cuts which will be cut when clicked on. |
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21:27.29 | bigzero | Lukian, lies...http://wowace.com/wiki/AutoProfitX |
21:27.44 | Lukian | oops missed one |
21:28.16 | Xinhuan | its annoying to write such an addon, because you need to create a securebutton for each spell |
21:28.26 | Xinhuan | ever since patch 2.0 that is |
21:28.32 | Xinhuan | as all spellcasts must be secure |
21:28.52 | FtH|Daemona | nontheless would be a kickass addon ;) |
21:29.04 | Xinhuan | maybe so |
21:29.06 | FtH|Daemona | can't you run some recursion over it? |
21:29.12 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: just put a disclaimer that it won't run in combat |
21:29.19 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: hiude the gui in combat |
21:29.26 | Josh_Borke | problem solved |
21:29.35 | Xinhuan | its doable, but 1. it won't run in combat 2. its not a 1 hour addon ;d |
21:29.41 | bigzero | Lukian, so I take there's no way to add author email to that? |
21:29.46 | FtH|Daemona | who cuts gems in combat? ,) |
21:29.48 | Xinhuan | the idea has been around for months |
21:29.56 | Xinhuan | you're not the first to suggest it |
21:30.00 | Xinhuan | but nobody has actually bothered |
21:30.08 | Lukian | bigzero, the template would have to be edited |
21:30.45 | Lukian | bigzero, all authors should have their own page with contact details. |
21:30.52 | Lukian | (if they wish to be contacted) |
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21:31.01 | Xinhuan | because you need to first scan your recipes to see what you have, check the itemtype, find the matching enchants, generate the menu, make securebuttons for each one, etc |
21:31.06 | Xinhuan | and then make it work on 7 languages ;d |
21:31.32 | bigzero | plus Xinhuan is lazy...so there |
21:31.37 | Xinhuan | indeed |
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21:32.01 | elsexwhere | that was fun, guess someone else owns the name else_where, lol |
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21:32.17 | Xinhuan | info.text= ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, WoWEquip_TalentData2[v.id].maxrank)..v.t |
21:32.28 | Xinhuan | WoWEquip\WoWEquip.lua:1384: unexpected symbol near ':' |
21:32.34 | FtH|Daemona | well make it work in 7 languages... thats what babble is for? ;) |
21:32.35 | Xinhuan | what am i missing in that line |
21:32.45 | Xinhuan | babble doesn't include enchants |
21:32.49 | Xinhuan | not even talents |
21:33.02 | elsexwhere | so where was i? oh yeah, tooltips for mats that tell you your know reciepes associated with that mat |
21:33.11 | bigzero | Xinhuan, closing parent |
21:33.21 | elsexwhere | guess i'll get on that |
21:33.34 | Xinhuan | i count an equal number of open/close paren? |
21:33.39 | bigzero | Xinhuan, nah, nvm |
21:33.53 | FtH|Daemona | not quite tooltip but there is an addon that lets you whisper !craft <reagent> and tells you what item includes that reagent, works for gems, leatherworking, enchanting etc |
21:33.57 | FtH|Daemona | gimme a sec. |
21:34.07 | Xinhuan | that addon is called CraftList1 |
21:34.09 | Xinhuan | that addon is called CraftList2 |
21:34.14 | bigzero | ("(%d/%d) "):format( what is that supposed to mean anyway? |
21:34.23 | FtH|Daemona | Craftlist2 exactly |
21:34.34 | Xinhuan | it takes a string and applies format() on it |
21:34.49 | bigzero | you can do it that way? |
21:34.49 | Lukian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BananaBar2 |
21:34.53 | Lukian | awesome version number |
21:34.54 | Xinhuan | "(%d/%d) " is that string |
21:34.58 | bigzero | string.format(string, format) |
21:35.02 | elsexwhere | would be nice to get that info in the tooltip, for tradechannel links and such |
21:35.09 | Xinhuan | yes, but string:format() works too |
21:35.24 | Xinhuan | and is faster since string metatable lookup is faster |
21:35.27 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57812 10AnalogClock/ (AnalogClock.lua AnalogClock.toc): AnalogClock: saner default size and movable with alt-drag |
21:35.41 | Lukian | wowace makes me do maths >< |
21:35.46 | bigzero | lua> ("i%d"):format(0) |
21:35.53 | Lukian | no maths before 9am, please. |
21:36.14 | bigzero | umm, what's the syntax for lua thing again? |
21:36.22 | Xinhuan | the bot isn't in this channel |
21:36.26 | Xinhuan | beg cladhaire to bring it back |
21:36.29 | Lukian | msg it directly |
21:36.40 | cladhaire | i meant to bring it back yesterday |
21:36.43 | cladhaire | apparently i got distracted :P |
21:36.47 | Xinhuan | :( |
21:37.08 | bigzero | what's the name of the bot? |
21:37.24 | Shirik | bigzero: Do I have to hurt you? |
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21:37.30 | bigzero | yes |
21:37.35 | Xinhuan | there it is |
21:37.37 | bigzero | yay |
21:37.40 | cladhaire | lua> print("Hello Everybody!") |
21:37.41 | Shirik | Oh so that was cladhaire ok |
21:37.42 | lua_bot | cladhaire: Hello Everybody! |
21:37.50 | bigzero | lua> print(("i%d"):format(0)) |
21:37.50 | lua_bot | bigzero: i0 |
21:37.52 | Pkekyo| | christ...some old drunk tosser on the bus started tossing off, trying to spray down the driver O.o |
21:37.54 | Shirik | I assumed you decided to go ahead and run some random string that would kill the server |
21:37.59 | Shirik | s/server/bot/ |
21:38.06 | cladhaire | phyber: yikes |
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21:38.42 | Xinhuan | lua> ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, 5) |
21:38.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: (0/5) , |
21:39.13 | bigzero | = ("(%d/%d) "):format(0,9).."hi" |
21:39.20 | bigzero | lua> print(("(%d/%d) "):format(0,9).."hi") |
21:39.20 | lua_bot | bigzero: (0/9) hi |
21:39.27 | Shirik | that's bad |
21:39.30 | Shirik | better is |
21:39.44 | Shirik | lua> print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi") |
21:39.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi")"]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
21:39.46 | Shirik | lua> print(("(%d/%d) %s"):format(0, 9, "hi")) |
21:39.47 | lua_bot | Shirik: (0/9) hi |
21:40.11 | bigzero | blame Xinhuan |
21:40.17 | elsexwhere | is there an ace mod that shows co-op healing bars with %/raw overheal amounts? It still sickens me how much time i put into Genesis and Heart to have 2.0 kill them =( i'd like to salvage something from them |
21:40.18 | bigzero | he came up with it |
21:40.26 | Xinhuan | i was just wondering why lua spit an error for |
21:40.26 | Xinhuan | info.text= ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, WoWEquip_TalentData2[v.id].maxrank)..v.t |
21:40.31 | Shirik | no he didn't |
21:40.35 | Shirik | he gave you the format |
21:40.40 | Shirik | you're the one who concatenated the "hi" |
21:40.54 | Dezzimal | how would you create a macro that spell locks your focus target only if you have a focus target |
21:40.59 | Dezzimal | else spell lock current target |
21:41.12 | Shirik | Dezzimal: [focus,exists] |
21:41.20 | Dezzimal | /cast [target=focus, exists] Spell Lock(Rank 2); /cast Spell Lock(Rank 2) |
21:41.22 | Dezzimal | ? |
21:41.32 | Shirik | yes |
21:41.45 | Hey-WTF | /cast [target=focus,exists,harm] [target=target,exists,harm] [] Spell Lock |
21:41.48 | elsexwhere | may want a harm in there to avoid invalid target |
21:41.59 | elsexwhere | what Hey sed =) |
21:42.05 | Dezzimal | whats that last [] for |
21:42.06 | Thelyna | er yeah, my locution was a bit obfuscated |
21:42.07 | Dezzimal | seems useless |
21:42.32 | bigzero | Shirik, I did no such thing...just followed his layout :-P |
21:42.33 | Shirik | Thelyna: That is so beyond redundant |
21:42.34 | Thelyna | means if nothing else ... actually I dunno if it works for pet spells, but if nothing else you could mouseover spell lock |
21:42.35 | Shirik | that is not even funny |
21:43.13 | Xinhuan | lua> v = {} v.t = "abc" print( ("(%d/%d) "):format(0, 5)..v.t ) |
21:43.13 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: (0/5) abc |
21:43.15 | Shirik | [target=focus,exists,harm] : harm implies exists. [target=target,exists,harm]: harm implies exist and target=target is worthless. []: Makes the conditional before that worthless. |
21:43.16 | Xinhuan | o_O |
21:43.27 | Shirik | why have [target=target,exists,harm] if you're just going to follow it with [] ? |
21:43.49 | Thelyna | yeah I realised it was horrid after I posted it |
21:43.54 | bigzero | Xinhuan, reload wow ui? |
21:44.06 | Shirik | so in short, the simpler version would be /cast [target=focus,harm] [harm] Spell Lock |
21:44.28 | Dezzimal | k afk getting 2200 rating with my druid partner |
21:44.30 | Dezzimal | in full s1 |
21:44.35 | Shirik | though I tend to prefer /cast [target=focus,harm] [] Spell Lock so that if you don't have a valid target on either side, it gives you an error rather than nothing |
21:47.08 | Xinhuan | i would add a "nodead" condition |
21:47.18 | Xinhuan | because i don't want to try to cast on a dead focus target |
21:47.59 | Thelyna | wouldn't you shift to a focus that's alive soon though? |
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21:48.14 | Xinhuan | you assume that you have such a macro |
21:48.33 | Xinhuan | you still have to manually change your focus |
21:48.39 | Xinhuan | via another macro or otherwise |
21:48.48 | Lukian | all addons starting with 'B' should be done @ bigzero |
21:48.48 | Xinhuan | so adding the "nodead" is good |
21:49.42 | Xinhuan | my macro looks like this |
21:49.53 | Xinhuan | #showtooltip /stopcasting /cast [mod:alt] [target=focus,harm,nodead] [harm,nodead] [target=targettarget,harm,nodead] [] Counterspell |
21:49.57 | Xinhuan | and i don't think you can shorten it :D |
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21:55.49 | Sole | is there some trick people are using to hide their armory info? |
21:55.57 | Xinhuan | no |
21:56.02 | Sole | getting a lot of "Character data awaiting refresh" |
21:56.03 | Xinhuan | there is no way to hide info |
21:56.10 | Xinhuan | that's an armory issue |
21:56.12 | Sole | so teh armory is just bugged? |
21:56.15 | Sole | =\ |
21:56.15 | Xinhuan | indeed |
21:56.34 | Lukian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SEasyRotation :D |
21:57.13 | Sole | now that is a cool idea |
21:57.28 | Sole | sorren that sneaky devil |
21:58.30 | elsexwhere | nerf arcane shot. hunters are OP |
21:58.34 | elsexwhere | =P |
21:58.59 | vithos | SEasyRotation is really cool |
22:00.20 | elsexwhere | i take it that each section of the bar indicates the next shot and it's castingtime/cooldown/gcd? |
22:00.42 | Lukian | bottom is autoshot, next up is steady, arcane, multi. |
22:01.03 | Lukian | oops |
22:01.09 | Lukian | swap auto and steady :D |
22:01.14 | elsexwhere | it looks like a sequencer track =) |
22:01.32 | Elsia | makes sense, playing a hunter is like guitar hero ;) |
22:01.46 | Josh_Borke | so's shadow priest |
22:01.52 | Josh_Borke | and so is mage |
22:01.55 | Josh_Borke | i'm starting to see a trend |
22:02.14 | elsexwhere | still, they cant faceroll liek a warlock |
22:02.15 | Elsia | well mages don't lose damage by clipping wanding I think |
22:02.40 | Dezzimal | what? |
22:02.43 | Dezzimal | they definitely do |
22:02.47 | Elsia | hehe |
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22:03.40 | Josh_Borke | dkp sucks |
22:03.56 | elsexwhere | 50 DKP MINUS!!! |
22:04.18 | kenlyric | Elsia: playing a hunter is like playing guitar hero with one button. |
22:04.43 | kenlyric | excellently timed steady/KC macro. |
22:04.57 | elsexwhere | lol, castsequence ftwtfpwn |
22:05.16 | bigzero | playing a mage is like playing whack-a-mole...with one mole |
22:05.47 | bigzero | well, an occasional 2nd |
22:06.02 | Elsia | kinda true, only way to not lose your mind in a 10 minute boss fight :D |
22:06.24 | Xuerian | Good lord. 71280 views on Escape from Org in one day |
22:06.38 | bigzero | Escape from Org? |
22:06.46 | Elsia | came out yesterday |
22:07.06 | Elsia | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=57079&mirror=1 |
22:07.09 | Xuerian | last night 0_o |
22:07.36 | Fisker- | it sucks |
22:07.56 | elsexwhere | hmmm, mod idea. estimated dps(possibly taking into account target debuffs/buff/mitigation) of a castsequence with a action button text(like DrDamage) |
22:08.45 | Elsia | haste screws it up |
22:08.48 | Fisker- | I SAID IT SUCKS |
22:08.53 | Lukian | how do I right align with wiki code? |
22:08.53 | Fisker- | WORSHIP ME AS THE GOD I AM |
22:09.02 | Xuerian | Fisker needs a pair of fiskers for his whiskers |
22:09.29 | Fisker- | i am going to end you Xuerian |
22:09.39 | Xuerian | :D |
22:12.20 | kergoth | "Abdel Benamrouche announced that he has updated the original 0.01 Linux kernel to compile with GCC-4.x, allowing it to run on emulators such as QEMU and Bochs. After applying his series of small patches, Abdel explains that the 0.01 kernel can be built on a system running the 2.6 Linux kernel. He added that he's successfully ported bach-3.2, portions of coreutils-6.9, dietlibc-0.31 (instead of glibc), bin86-0.16.17, make-3.81, ncurses-2.0.7, |
22:12.21 | kergoth | and vim-7.1 all to run on his modified 0.01 kernel." |
22:12.25 | kergoth | some people have way too much time on their hands |
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22:13.14 | Fisker- | like your mother |
22:13.16 | whizter | is there an addon which is able to play sounds when i hit a certain % of hp, or flash the window like omen? |
22:13.48 | kergoth | TNE_LowHealthWarning did that |
22:14.19 | durcyn | parrot can, among many other things |
22:14.26 | durcyn | as well as sct/msbt |
22:15.06 | whizter | ok thx |
22:15.13 | Lukian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BankItems <- sexified! |
22:15.18 | elsexwhere | Etsia, lol @ "the goggles do nothing" =) |
22:16.48 | whizter | lol, it's enabled inside my sct, seems like i didn't notice it before. |
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22:19.00 | Shadowed | Any Mages on a US server available without Imp CS? Trying to see what events are fired when non imp CS is used |
22:19.03 | Shadowed | but don't have any mages I can test with |
22:21.43 | durcyn | Shadowed: yes |
22:21.49 | Shadowed | yay |
22:21.55 | Shadowed | what server? |
22:22.03 | durcyn | turalyon, alliance |
22:22.33 | Shadowed | Where are you? Like, what starting area should I go fo |
22:22.35 | Shadowed | for* |
22:22.48 | durcyn | shattrath, just let me know which one you end up at |
22:22.53 | bigzero | he's a mage...he's anywhere |
22:23.05 | Shadowed | kk |
22:23.08 | durcyn | elf is probably closest |
22:23.22 | Shadowed | Elfs is a longass run usually |
22:23.30 | Shadowed | human would probably be easiest |
22:23.34 | durcyn | they're all a bit of a hike. ok, human |
22:23.49 | Shadowed | Kk i'm online as "Mayen" |
22:25.12 | Shadowed | damn wolf |
22:25.15 | Shadowed | YOUR NEUTRAL STOP ATTACKING ME |
22:28.43 | Shadowed | Well thats a pain in the ass |
22:28.53 | Shadowed | It's impossible to track use of CS unless it actually interrupts something |
22:29.19 | durcyn | should be slightly less lame in 2.4 |
22:29.40 | Shadowed | slouken said 2.4 changes the way we get combat logs, not the actual data we get I believe |
22:29.48 | Shadowed | hum |
22:29.57 | Shadowed | Have to use some trickery for this it appears |
22:30.28 | durcyn | hm, thought it was going to be sent as events with actual tokens for actors |
22:30.52 | Shadowed | Yeah, but the only event I have to go off of when you silenced me is |
22:30.58 | Shadowed | "Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light." |
22:31.14 | durcyn | no spellcast events for counterspell at all? |
22:32.04 | potemkin | um |
22:32.11 | potemkin | if you get afflicted by imp cs is shows up |
22:32.19 | durcyn | talking about unimproved here |
22:32.37 | Shadowed | right |
22:32.42 | Shadowed | imp cs is easy, non-imp isn't |
22:32.48 | potemkin | yeah |
22:32.49 | Shadowed | COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE first arg "INTERRUPT", and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE first arg "Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light." are the only two events that fired |
22:32.49 | Gnarfoz | it shows up when you do the interrupting, doesn't it? |
22:32.55 | Gnarfoz | hm |
22:32.59 | potemkin | youd have to make sure |
22:33.01 | Shadowed | It only says you interrupted it, not specifically that CS did it |
22:33.01 | potemkin | frobozz is a mage |
22:33.06 | Shadowed | ....yes |
22:33.13 | Shadowed | hence trickery |
22:33.16 | potemkin | what if |
22:33.20 | potemkin | the mage polys u while youre casting |
22:33.24 | potemkin | are you still interrupted |
22:33.48 | Primer | Anyone know if SCT can display when an opponent is casting against me? If not, of another addon that puts text up like SCT, and does? |
22:33.48 | Shadowed | no, thats a cast interrupt not a spell interrupt |
22:34.17 | durcyn | Primer: there's a version of spellalert that writes to SCT |
22:34.26 | Matrix110| | witchhunt |
22:34.37 | durcyn | Primer: you could also use something like WitchHunt and output to SCT/MSBT/etc via Sink |
22:34.42 | Shadowed | hum actually |
22:34.54 | Primer | durcyn: so you recommend WitchHunt? |
22:34.58 | Shadowed | durcyn, would you be able to do one more quick test? COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE has 3 possible args, maybe a chance I can get the info out of that |
22:34.59 | durcyn | Primer: it's what i use. |
22:35.13 | Birdemani | does witchhunt output to parrot as well? |
22:35.14 | durcyn | Shadowed: sure, give me a sec to log that character back on |
22:35.18 | Shadowed | thanks, and np |
22:35.22 | Shadowed | same place haven't moved |
22:35.24 | Primer | durcyn: excellent, thanks |
22:35.26 | durcyn | Birdemani: anything that supports Sink, which includesParrot |
22:35.30 | durcyn | plus a space in there somewhere |
22:36.25 | Primer | durcyn: so if I install WitchHunt via WAU, I shouldn't need to worry about deps (This "Sink" you mentioned)? |
22:36.48 | durcyn | Primer: sink is a library, it'll be included. |
22:38.13 | Primer | make oldconfig |
22:38.17 | Primer | err, mt |
22:38.59 | Dezzimal | anyone here use BaM? |
22:39.03 | Dezzimal | curious |
22:40.05 | Josh_Borke | BAM! |
22:43.05 | Shadowed | only told the spell that was locked down, not the player |
22:43.47 | Shadowed | Oh well, still got the CS info at least. Thanks durcyn |
22:45.01 | Shadowed | now I have to find a mage WITH Imp CS to figure out how long it takes before the imp CS portion fires! |
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22:47.01 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r57813 10ForeverAFK/ (. ForeverAFK.lua ForeverAFK.toc embeds.xml): |
22:47.01 | CIA-8 | ForeverAFK: initial commit |
22:47.01 | CIA-8 | - When turned on prevents you from logging out |
22:47.18 | Dezzimal | Josh_Borke: do you know where the sound comes from |
22:49.00 | Gngsk | prevents you from logging out? |
22:49.01 | Gngsk | sweet! |
22:49.08 | Gngsk | 500 days played here I come |
22:49.14 | Xinhuan | uh how does that work bigzero? |
22:49.36 | Josh_Borke | Dezzimal: it's that cooking guy who yells BAM |
22:49.37 | Shadowed | Probably uses SendAddonmessage or whispers yourself |
22:49.46 | Matrix110| | it keeps unafking you but that doesnt work |
22:49.49 | Matrix110| | you get dced anyway |
22:49.50 | durcyn | Shadowed: you want a felhunter instead? |
22:49.52 | Xinhuan | doesn't work |
22:49.57 | durcyn | Shadowed: same effect iirc |
22:50.03 | deadlock | Is there a way to move the PVP inficator its up in top MID and covered over by my UI |
22:50.11 | Xinhuan | wow logs you out based on inactivity of hardware event keypresses |
22:50.12 | Matrix110| | You get dced even if you are not afk without hardware input |
22:50.13 | bigzero | Xinhuan, whenever the logout dialog comes up it cancels it |
22:50.27 | Xinhuan | LOL that works? |
22:50.37 | bigzero | Matrix110|, idk about dc, but it does prevent you from logging out |
22:50.42 | Shadowed | durcyn: Yeah sure |
22:50.48 | Shadowed | Xinhuan, as long as you're not in a city I don't see why not |
22:50.53 | Shadowed | same server? |
22:51.00 | durcyn | Shadowed: sure |
22:51.07 | Matrix110| | No i mean you get automatically dced after 30mins |
22:51.17 | Matrix110| | without hardware inpuit |
22:51.19 | Shadowed | you automatically get dced after being at character selection |
22:51.22 | Shadowed | afaik |
22:51.27 | Shadowed | but it first logs you out |
22:51.38 | Shadowed | durcyn, kk i'm online |
22:51.47 | Matrix110| | ah well idc there is no reason for this mod though :P |
22:51.52 | Xinhuan | i believe the server disconnects you regardless of whether you click that dialog, but i don't afk long enough to find out |
22:52.03 | bigzero | hmmm, I'll test it...I still need to figure out how to make it less chatty...the "You've been inactive for a long time..." message starts spamming |
22:52.20 | Xinhuan | that's a server message |
22:52.22 | Xinhuan | you can't block those |
22:52.27 | bigzero | but i only noticed it when you minimize |
22:52.30 | Xinhuan | its yellow in color |
22:52.46 | bigzero | well, Xinhuan, you can block anything that goes into chat.. |
22:52.51 | Xinhuan | well yes |
22:52.58 | Shadowed | durcyn: In the same area and such whenever you're ready |
22:53.00 | Xinhuan | but its the server that controls whether you dc or not |
22:53.07 | bigzero | anyway, gonna test if I get dc'ed |
22:53.11 | Xinhuan | so i would think unless you have real hardware input |
22:53.20 | Xinhuan | to click cancel |
22:53.27 | Xinhuan | its prob a protected function |
22:53.28 | durcyn | Shadowed: aye, brt |
22:53.32 | bigzero | probably right, still gives you 30 minutes instead of 15 of afk time |
22:53.43 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest you turn on taintlog 1 for this |
22:53.52 | Xinhuan | to see if its a protected function |
22:53.58 | Shadowed | since you log out instantly |
22:54.16 | Xinhuan | i think you shouldn't put an addon on trunk if you haven't tested if it works or not :) |
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22:54.24 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: oh well |
22:54.29 | bigzero | it does work for logouts, but not for dc |
22:54.32 | Shadowed | I'll be sorry to see svn disappear =p |
22:54.33 | bigzero | maybe |
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22:55.44 | bigzero | Xinhuan, actually the way it works is not really by clicking the cancel button. it just hides the popup...but the popup's onhide script has the canceling part built in |
22:56.04 | Xinhuan | yes, but i believe that function is secure ;p |
22:56.24 | Xinhuan | anyway, dont' commit something you haven't tested! |
22:56.50 | Shadowed | Interrupt is at 416945.64, Debuff is at 416946.14 |
22:57.02 | RaydenUni | hello |
22:57.09 | Shadowed | Wheeee |
22:57.09 | RaydenUni | anyone been getting errors with arkinventory lately? |
22:57.15 | Xinhuan | what are you testing Shirik|AFK |
22:57.18 | Xinhuan | Shadowed* |
22:57.19 | Shadowed | I think, this may have to wait for 2.4 when we get actor ids |
22:57.29 | RaydenUni | after i play for a while i get some layer # error every time i open my bags |
22:57.34 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: Seeing about adding support for silences without debuffs, like Counterspell without imp |
22:57.43 | Xinhuan | why is that difficult? |
22:57.58 | Shadowed | Because all you're told is you got interrupted, not the actual ability |
22:58.26 | Xinhuan | is there no "xyz casts Counterspell" event? |
22:58.29 | Shadowed | Nope |
22:58.46 | Shadowed | Been doing RegisterAllEvents and checking everything that fired, the only event that fires is |
22:58.53 | Shadowed | [32:34] <Shadowed> COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE first arg "INTERRUPT", and CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE first arg "Frobozz interrupts your Holy Light." are the only two events that fired |
22:59.15 | Xinhuan | well the only way a mage can interrupt a spell is by using a counterspell |
22:59.24 | Xinhuan | its safe to assume its a counterspell |
22:59.40 | Xinhuan | if the caster is a mage |
23:00.00 | Xinhuan | ok there is a second method, its called Impact (2 sec stun, fire talent) |
23:00.35 | Xinhuan | short of using gay unfarmable trinkets from arathi highlands hehe |
23:00.52 | Shadowed | "if" is the hard part |
23:01.03 | Shadowed | and you have accuracy issues with more then one mage, not like anyone uses more then one mage but still |
23:01.15 | Xinhuan | if there is more than one mage it doesn't matter |
23:01.30 | Shadowed | and again |
23:01.35 | Xinhuan | because if the caster is a mage, and you detected a spell is interrupted by a mage, you start a 24 sec countdown |
23:01.42 | Shadowed | i'm going to stab you |
23:01.43 | Shadowed | in a second |
23:01.45 | Shadowed | fyi |
23:01.59 | Xinhuan | if you detected another spell interrupted by a mage, then you start a 2nd 24 sec countdown |
23:02.01 | Shadowed | you have to record a list of people to make sure the person is a mage |
23:02.09 | Shadowed | then you have two interrupts |
23:02.15 | Shadowed | one the silence, and another is the imp cs portion |
23:02.17 | Shadowed | just trust me |
23:02.19 | Shadowed | it's a pain in the ass |
23:02.25 | Shadowed | and i'm hungry, so i'm going to get food |
23:02.26 | Xinhuan | and if there really was 2 interrupts then it must have come from 2 mages |
23:02.31 | Xinhuan | so whats your point? |
23:02.40 | Xinhuan | you would be correct to show 2 countdowns |
23:02.47 | Shadowed | se |
23:02.48 | Shadowed | because |
23:02.52 | Shadowed | theres only ONE cooldown being burned |
23:02.55 | Shadowed | not two |
23:03.11 | Xinhuan | i don't get it |
23:03.30 | Xinhuan | counterspell is 24 sec cd, regardless of whether there is a silence effect |
23:03.34 | Xinhuan | don't check the silence part |
23:03.40 | Xinhuan | its not relevant |
23:04.09 | Shadowed | god |
23:04.14 | Shadowed | yes it is |
23:04.24 | Shadowed | theirs *THREE* ways to check if someone was silenced |
23:04.34 | Shadowed | A) the debuff, B) the interrupt + knowing their class, C) it was resisted |
23:04.56 | Shadowed | If A doesn't apply (No Imp CS), you can only use B and C. If they use CS and don't interrupt anything, you need to fall back on A |
23:05.35 | Xinhuan | so a counterspell is undetectable if it didn't interrupt anything and isn't improved. |
23:05.37 | Shadowed | If you use all three, you have to restrict to only one silence like that being monitored at a time, or else you start A's timer and B's timer |
23:05.40 | Shadowed | yes |
23:05.45 | Shadowed | i went over that 10 minutes ago |
23:05.49 | Xinhuan | since its undetectable, why do you care? :) |
23:06.01 | Xinhuan | just point it out to the addon user : its undetectable |
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23:08.50 | chexsum | i hate silence |
23:10.16 | deadlock | Is there a way to move the PVP inficator its up in top MID and covered over by my UI |
23:11.00 | chexsum | use a unitframes mod |
23:11.23 | chexsum | or do you mean the flags/bases thing |
23:12.00 | deadlock | flags/bases thing |
23:12.30 | chexsum | moveanything can move it |
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23:12.44 | deadlock | chexsum: kkk ill look into it |
23:14.08 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan 07Talents * r57815 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Add some initial functions to show the talents menu. Add some mage talent data. |
23:16.39 | bigzero | Well, I'm not getting any taint from ForeverAFK and it will not work when you're resting (can't find a way to do it. doubt it's possible) Testing dc part now, but either way, it let's you stay logged on for at least 15 mins more :-) |
23:17.30 | CIA-8 | 03morgalm * r57816 10MorgDKP/ (5 files): |
23:17.30 | CIA-8 | MorgDKP: |
23:17.30 | CIA-8 | - Fix for timestamp error due to leading "0" being lost |
23:17.53 | kergoth | whats foreverafk? |
23:18.12 | bigzero | cancels the logout when you afk for too long |
23:18.31 | Xinhuan | its supposed to be an addon that clicks the cancel button for you (staticpopup) when you afk too long and it auto-pops up that dialog to log you out in 20 seconds |
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23:18.46 | Xinhuan | however, i don't know if it actually works |
23:18.52 | bigzero | Xinhuan is still not convinced... :( |
23:19.10 | Xinhuan | because my reasoning is that the cancel function would probably require a hardware event (like any action button) |
23:19.24 | Xinhuan | so its untested ;d |
23:19.35 | deadlock | Have we tried it? |
23:19.40 | bigzero | but it is...i've tried it several times |
23:19.41 | Xinhuan | no lol! |
23:20.00 | Xinhuan | what zone did you test it in |
23:20.03 | bigzero | SMV |
23:20.06 | deadlock | bigzero: Did you use the addon to click cancle or did u clickc ancle yourself |
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23:20.22 | bigzero | addon hides the popup, which will cancel the logout |
23:20.26 | Xinhuan | he merely makes a onshow call the onhide |
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23:21.53 | Xinhuan | meh i'll checkout that addon now from the svn and see if it works in a city |
23:21.53 | simlan | I'm looking for an Addon that plays a sound if I kill players in the BG, can anybody tell me? |
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23:22.03 | Shadowed | one day |
23:22.04 | bigzero | Xinhuan, doesn't ork in city |
23:22.05 | Shadowed | someone is going to listen to what I say |
23:22.12 | Shadowed | i've said twice already, it won't work in a city |
23:22.22 | bigzero | Xinhuan, no way to do it...that part is hardcoded |
23:22.24 | Shadowed | you logout instantly since you're resting and thus no 20 second logout |
23:22.27 | Xinhuan | right, i'll park myself 1 yard outside ironforge then |
23:22.37 | Xinhuan | and see if i'm online 6 hours later when i wake up |
23:23.14 | bigzero | Xinhuan, also if you minimize, note how many messeges you get, but once you maximize it back up those messeges stop.. |
23:23.20 | bigzero | even though you remain afk |
23:23.29 | Xinhuan | i run fullscreen maximised |
23:23.35 | Xinhuan | so minimizing isn't possible |
23:25.24 | chexsum | logged in and still have preparation buff :))) |
23:25.28 | Xinhuan | i don't understand why you had to use Ace2 for this addon |
23:25.40 | Xinhuan | and embed 3 entire libraries |
23:26.24 | kergoth | i wish you could kill the 20 second logout entirely on max level characters |
23:26.26 | Xinhuan | when creating a SLASHwhatever = function() end and using hooksecurefunc() is enough |
23:26.27 | kergoth | just silly |
23:26.40 | Shadowed | It's a PvP thing |
23:26.41 | Shadowed | I'd imagine |
23:26.51 | Shadowed | so you can't run and logout as soon as combat drops |
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23:31.06 | exor674 | oo, a @ is around! -- kergoth, I know its been the holidays and all, but I sent in a SVN access request on the 27th and havenot gotten a response -- I'm wondering if google found my request tasty |
23:31.44 | Lukian | I have an addon adding sellvalue, but I don't know which one it is |
23:31.47 | Lukian | any suggestions? |
23:31.58 | exor674 | Informant? |
23:32.00 | RaydenUni | has the armory been having trouble lately? it says my char hasn't been logged into lately and so it can't find any data |
23:32.05 | RaydenUni | i was on a couple days ago |
23:32.17 | shieldb | RaydenUni, Armory is "Working as always" |
23:32.20 | durcyn | armory's been garbage since it was implimented |
23:32.22 | Lukian | RaydenUni, it's just stuck like that for a few characters :p |
23:32.24 | shieldb | that is to say, it basically doesn't work at random |
23:32.29 | durcyn | slightly more fouled up lately though, yes |
23:32.34 | Lukian | RaydenUni, play for like 12hrs and it might sync |
23:32.35 | RaydenUni | and my guild was on wowjutsu the other day but it's not now... |
23:32.44 | RaydenUni | i was wondering if it might be because of the armory |
23:32.49 | Aens|Superiority | even if armory screws up alot, armory is a great feature |
23:32.59 | Lukian | exor674, can't be, I disabled EnhTooltip |
23:33.05 | shieldb | or more accurately, you're lucky if armory works properly for you |
23:33.14 | RaydenUni | it has always worked for me pretty much |
23:33.29 | shieldb | Lukian, SellFish ? FuBar_GarbageFu ? |
23:33.41 | Lukian | I'm trying to screenshot this, without the sell value: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:BankItemsTooltip.png |
23:33.50 | Lukian | no and no |
23:34.03 | durcyn | i suppose it's a decent idea, but did they seriously have to impliment it using only AJAX and flash? (the answer is no, btw) |
23:35.45 | Xinhuan | bigzero: i rewrote your entire addon using 17 lines without ace2 - http://pastey.net/79946 |
23:36.34 | shieldb | RaydenUni, I know for the last week or two we've had almost every single one of our raiders show up as "needs to log in to refresh data" |
23:36.40 | RaydenUni | yeah |
23:36.45 | RaydenUni | its been happening a lot, that's why i ask |
23:36.48 | shieldb | and then a few folks who basically just log on for a half an hour at a time to pvp and then are gone? They show up |
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23:38.16 | shieldb | oh - does anyone happen to know if there is some good documentation on assessment's aura tracking? |
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23:39.42 | shieldb | wowace.com/wiki/Assessment lists "Auras -> Aura Details -> Aura Times" which gives me hope that I may be able to track time on particular buffs going down during combat |
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23:41.33 | bigzero | Xinhuan, i thought you didn't believe it worked.. :) |
23:41.46 | Xinhuan | well i'm testing it ;d |
23:41.51 | Xinhuan | http://pastey.net/79946 |
23:41.53 | Xinhuan | go look |
23:42.04 | bigzero | yeah yeah, I was actually messing with some other stuff that made Ace2 preferential, butit didn't work out in the end |
23:42.09 | Xinhuan | there really is no need to use ace2 for small addons like these |
23:42.20 | Xinhuan | its what i call bloat |
23:42.25 | bigzero | i agree |
23:43.37 | JoshBorke | that doesn't really work, does it? |
23:43.51 | Xinhuan | i don't know, i'll tell you in a few hours :D |
23:44.05 | bigzero | wait, does Unhook actually unhook a function or just makes aace2 call it directly? |
23:44.31 | Xinhuan | when you hook a function, all ace2 does it make a single hooksecurefunc() to it |
23:44.35 | Xinhuan | to its own internal function |
23:44.41 | Xinhuan | it then loops thru its tables |
23:44.53 | Xinhuan | and calls every function registered using ace2 that hooked it |
23:45.02 | Xinhuan | so you could "unhook it" |
23:45.14 | Xinhuan | by telling ace2 to remove that hook from its tables |
23:45.27 | bigzero | ok, well, then no argument for ace2...you win |
23:45.33 | Xinhuan | there is no method to unhook something hooked by hooksecurefunc() |
23:45.34 | Xinhuan | :) |
23:45.41 | Xinhuan | apart from using a true/false flag |
23:45.49 | bigzero | important, imo |
23:45.50 | Xinhuan | at the top of your function |
23:46.02 | bigzero | err...not what i meant |
23:46.37 | Xinhuan | well its still hooked, the flag just tells the function not to do anything as a means of unhooking |
23:46.49 | bigzero | afk for 24 minutes so far |
23:47.00 | bigzero | still logged in |
23:47.09 | Xinhuan | afk logout is 30 min afaik |
23:47.19 | nevcairiel | yeah |
23:47.23 | bigzero | then it should start spamming me in 6 |
23:47.25 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-87-63-57.west.biz.rr.com) |
23:47.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
23:47.38 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57818 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: |
23:47.38 | CIA-8 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: basic modification to group multipart addons. Will show eg. |
23:47.38 | CIA-8 | Cartographer(20) - then the memory used by all its parts. Will still show the |
23:47.38 | CIA-8 | individual modules in the list, but the main addon will show total instead of |
23:47.38 | CIA-8 | just the core memory use |
23:48.51 | Xinhuan | does it do the multipart detection by checking for the addon_ prefix? |
23:49.22 | Xinhuan | or actually do something more sophisticated like iterating thru the module list |
23:50.57 | bigzero | Xinhuan, I'm just gonna copy-paste your code and commit it |
23:51.19 | Xinhuan | bigzero i didn't actually check my code for syntax errors |
23:51.32 | bigzero | right, I'll check that |
23:51.36 | Xinhuan | cos i didn't want to reloadui and waste 30 minutes ;d |
23:51.39 | Xinhuan | of afk time |
23:51.41 | Xinhuan | lol! |
23:53.38 | *** join/#wowace Cavisty^gerber (n=Cavisty@c-98-192-211-166.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
23:54.42 | Cavisty^gerber | Is there any PVP mod that broadcasts stuff like Cavisty gains blessing of freedom! or like Cavisty begins to cast Holy Light! Kind of like an enemy castbar that broadcasts in raid warning |
23:55.48 | bigzero | hmm...afk for 33 minutes...maybe it doesn't do it if you keep scroling in chat.. |
23:56.07 | bigzero | still haven't gotten the force logout to come up |
23:57.56 | Lukian | Cavisty^gerber, so witchhunt, but with broadcasting? |
23:57.59 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57819 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: revert change to trunk copy |
23:58.00 | Xinhuan | hmm soon to be 30 min for me |
23:58.02 | Lukian | (and filtering) |
23:58.22 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r57820 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: |
23:58.22 | CIA-8 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: basic modification to group multipart addons. Will show eg. |
23:58.22 | CIA-8 | Cartographer(20) - then the memory used by all its parts. Will still show the |
23:58.22 | CIA-8 | individual modules in the list, but the main addon will show total instead of |
23:58.22 | CIA-8 | just the core memory use |
23:59.13 | Lukian | haha |
23:59.26 | Lukian | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_TopScoreFu |
23:59.50 | Lukian | summary, darkimakuni broke it, arrow attempted to fix it, darkimakuni actually fixed it. |
23:59.52 | Cavisty^gerber | Lukian, Yes =) |