| 00:00.25 | Megalon | the 5% is added after all equip and enchants |
| 00:00.56 | Xinhuan | what about buffs? |
| 00:01.00 | Xinhuan | like fort |
| 00:01.03 | Xinhuan | and kings |
| 00:01.39 | Antiarc | Well, it'd be multiplicative, right? |
| 00:01.42 | Xinhuan | kings increases stamina by 10%, so i guess the 5% is applied on that |
| 00:01.44 | Antiarc | So it wouldn't matter |
| 00:01.53 | Xinhuan | but i am not sure about buffs like fort |
| 00:01.59 | Antiarc | Fort increases your stamina stat |
| 00:02.02 | Antiarc | So I'd expect it applies |
| 00:02.05 | Xinhuan | and uh, say trinket that +1750 hp temporarily? |
| 00:02.11 | Monztah | iirc it's calculated after all buffs, gear, enchants, whathaveyou |
| 00:02.19 | Xinhuan | would that give more as tauren? |
| 00:02.42 | Antiarc | "Total Health increased by 5%" |
| 00:02.45 | Antiarc | So I'd assume so. |
| 00:03.06 | Pkekyo| | is there a single GY in wpl? |
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| 00:04.13 | Xinhuan | yes just 1 |
| 00:08.48 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57698 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Wasn't saving the last seen time. Care less about distances, with the new point-merging code. |
| 00:12.22 | Xinhuan | lol kemayo |
| 00:12.46 | Xinhuan | next thing i know, people will ask about using _Routes to draw connecting lines between sightings of the same mob |
| 00:12.48 | Xinhuan | on your map |
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| 00:13.20 | Xinhuan | (its been asked before) |
| 00:13.23 | Kemayo | I was considering writing something to display it as general "areas", instead of points. |
| 00:13.50 | Xinhuan | some rare mobs have a rather long pathing |
| 00:13.59 | Xinhuan | like that dragon just south of area52 |
| 00:14.06 | Kemayo | Yeah, mostly the new outland ones. |
| 00:14.29 | Xinhuan | and someone asked if i could draw pathing routes for these, obviously these would be non-looped routes |
| 00:14.35 | Xinhuan | which _routes actually can handle |
| 00:14.39 | Xinhuan | in the base code |
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| 00:16.48 | Kemayo | It's the sort of thing that I objectively agree is a good idea, but am too lazy to actually do. :) |
| 00:17.53 | Xinhuan | technically, you could just throw in all the coordinates into _routes's TSP algo, and it'll spit out the "shortest circular path" |
| 00:18.06 | Xinhuan | then its pretty easy to take out the longest connecting line |
| 00:18.18 | Xinhuan | and that would be the route |
| 00:19.18 | Xinhuan | give and take a bit of logic there heh |
| 00:20.08 | Kemayo | I hear logic is tricky. |
| 00:21.05 | Xinhuan | tsp is tricky too, but anything with less than 50 nodes, the algo used should almost always spit out the shortest possible route |
| 00:21.17 | Xinhuan | like 99% of the time |
| 00:21.55 | Xinhuan | beyond 100 nodes or so, i have to apply heaps of pruning and stuff |
| 00:25.19 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.33 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 00:25.50 | Xinhuan | you can only select azeroth maps from the drop down list if you are viewing that map, or if you are in that zone |
| 00:26.00 | Orionshock | to where it's not taking me though a mountain each time |
| 00:26.30 | Xinhuan | oh, that would require you to provide me with a map of every square yard of every zone in azeroth's height and passability |
| 00:26.52 | Orionshock | lol |
| 00:26.56 | Xinhuan | if i have such a map, i'll compute the paths between every node with A* algorithm |
| 00:27.33 | Orionshock | blizz might get a bit irked if we did that |
| 00:27.48 | Xinhuan | for example, going from a height of 50 to 0 yards is doable, but not from 0 to 50 |
| 00:28.00 | Xinhuan | routes will get slightly more complicated to calculate |
| 00:28.27 | Xinhuan | but i'll need that height map, and passability map (such as a blocking object, or a river with 60% movement speed) |
| 00:29.00 | Shirik | Xinhuan: I was thinking along similar lines |
| 00:29.11 | Shirik | I've been meaning to implement this algorithm I designed to see how well it works |
| 00:29.18 | Xinhuan | but who will do that mapping? :D |
| 00:29.39 | Shirik | uses parts of a technique I learned from my telecommunications class |
| 00:29.46 | Shirik | for IP routing |
| 00:30.02 | Xinhuan | are you going to reverse engineer the wmo terrain files to do that mapping? hehehe |
| 00:30.13 | Shirik | in theory that's possible :P But unlikely |
| 00:30.28 | Xinhuan | or write a recording addon to record the height (you can't get the Z values anymore since patch 1.1) of every yard |
| 00:30.41 | Shirik | you can get Z values |
| 00:30.41 | Shirik | easy |
| 00:31.00 | Shirik | I went over this in a discussion over a flight HUD |
| 00:31.04 | Xinhuan | explain |
| 00:31.07 | Shirik | it just requires some calculus |
| 00:31.08 | Kemayo | Using pitch and speed? |
| 00:31.17 | Xinhuan | well in azeroth? its not quite so easy |
| 00:31.18 | Shirik | the only restriction is that you are moving at 100% sped |
| 00:31.24 | Shirik | (or a known speed) |
| 00:31.39 | Xinhuan | well explain a bit |
| 00:31.44 | Xinhuan | sounds interesting |
| 00:31.52 | Droolio | i think you can get camera pitch? |
| 00:31.54 | Shirik | it's just an integral |
| 00:32.01 | Droolio | then enable camera follow with slope |
| 00:32.32 | Shirik | calculate the speed at which you are moving along the XY plane. Compare this to the known speed and you can calculuate the speed along the Z axis |
| 00:32.47 | Shirik | take the integral of this over a period of time and you know the difference in Z position |
| 00:32.58 | Shirik | you now just need some Z reference position |
| 00:33.11 | Shirik | which really is arbitrary |
| 00:33.41 | Shirik | It's really just taking my Flight HUD through one more step |
| 00:33.53 | Shirik | I can already calculuate Z speed and I do it, I just need to take the integral of that and we know how far we've moved |
| 00:34.40 | Shirik | I think I have the formula here somewhere |
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| 00:35.35 | Shirik | ah, here we are |
| 00:35.36 | Shirik | [(m+1)s] * sqrt(1-[(1/(2sqrt(x^2+y^2)))(2x(dx/dt)+2y(dy/dt))]/[(m+1)s]) = dz/dt |
| 00:35.51 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 00:36.17 | Xinhuan | but this only works on a small enough "/dt" where you assume the "flatness of the slope" |
| 00:36.32 | Xinhuan | i suppose it'll work on 1 yard |
| 00:36.41 | Xinhuan | but even measuring 1 yard is tricky in wow |
| 00:37.09 | Shirik | this is true |
| 00:37.15 | Shirik | that's the one thing that's been causing me issues |
| 00:37.27 | Xinhuan | and if i walk in a 100 yard circle going back to my starting point, my starting height is unlikely to be equal to my ending point |
| 00:37.36 | Xinhuan | unless you cumulate all the height together |
| 00:37.49 | Shirik | that merely depends on the frequency of sampling |
| 00:38.10 | Shirik | take it fast enough and it should be extremely accurate |
| 00:38.20 | Shirik | however, I do think there's probably a better way of doing this |
| 00:38.32 | Nargiddley | how would you tell up from down ? |
| 00:38.48 | Shirik | that's another issue I've had, but my solution has seemed to prove quite accurate |
| 00:38.49 | Xinhuan | the problem with wow is that when you are walking up/down a slope, you maintain the same x-y speed |
| 00:39.03 | Xinhuan | wow doesn't take into account z-plane at all |
| 00:39.18 | Shirik | which is that you assume positive initially, and then every time you cross zero you invert |
| 00:39.30 | Xinhuan | yes this means you travel physically a farther distance if you walk down a hill |
| 00:39.34 | Xinhuan | than along a flat plane |
| 00:39.37 | Shirik | I have found it to be quite true that it is rare to hit exactly zero and then go back in the same direction |
| 00:39.50 | Shirik | Xinhuan: is that true? Again all these calculations were for a flight purpose |
| 00:39.51 | Xinhuan | because the x-y speed recorded (ignoring z) is the same in both case |
| 00:39.58 | Xinhuan | yes this istrue for wow on land |
| 00:40.19 | Shirik | ok so that would put a bit of a kink in this yes. But I go back to what I said earlier in that I don't agree with this solution :) |
| 00:40.20 | Xinhuan | you may install SpeedFu to verify this |
| 00:40.38 | Shirik | just pointing out that it was (should have been, and would be for air) possible |
| 00:40.40 | Xinhuan | all it does it take the map's X-Y coordinate regularly to give you your speed |
| 00:40.53 | Shirik | I have a problem with SpeedFu |
| 00:40.59 | Shirik | but I'll leave it at that |
| 00:40.59 | Xinhuan | and on your ground mount, you'll always see 200% on any slope of any steepness |
| 00:41.11 | Xinhuan | what's the problem? heh |
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| 00:41.20 | Shirik | I disagree with the way it's making its calculations is all |
| 00:41.35 | Xinhuan | why is that disagreeable? |
| 00:41.45 | Shirik | but I'm not going into details, I'm not here to bash it |
| 00:41.50 | Xinhuan | it is just merely taking the x-y delta |
| 00:41.54 | Shirik | Oh the coordinate usage is agreeable. That's the right way of doing it |
| 00:41.58 | Shirik | there are details you are missing |
| 00:42.16 | Xinhuan | what am i missing? |
| 00:42.29 | Shirik | I said I'm not here to bash it :) It works, that's good enough for most. |
| 00:42.33 | Xinhuan | is the % given by it not accurate? |
| 00:42.40 | Shirik | no it's fairly accurate |
| 00:43.44 | buu | So, with bartender3, when I stealth, it shifts my actionbar1. Mildly annoying, but ok, except that the bar it shifts to is already being used by a different addon! |
| 00:43.51 | buu | How do I control what it does there? |
| 00:44.10 | Kemayo | buu: I think there's options somewhere -- look for "stances" or "paging". |
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| 00:46.43 | Xinhuan | don't use that other addon buu :D |
| 00:47.11 | Orionshock | Bar1 > Paging > Stances > Stealth > |
| 00:47.31 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf8bf3c5d28 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Elwynn_Forest.lua: Elwynn guide tweaks |
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| 00:47.40 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r83317f1159 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Elwynn_Forest.lua: Hoomon pally class quest |
| 00:53.23 | buu | Orionshock: Er, really? Huh. |
| 00:53.42 | Orionshock | buu in the fubar menu |
| 00:55.24 | potemkin | whats the function to print something into party chat |
| 00:55.48 | Orionshock | SendChatMessage() |
| 00:56.04 | potemkin | thanks |
| 01:00.46 | buu | Orionshock: I'll check it out, thanks. |
| 01:02.04 | Pkekyo| | damn you people...remind me what I was going to ask you goddamnit! :p |
| 01:04.40 | Xinhuan | you asked about graveyards in WPL |
| 01:04.49 | Xinhuan | and keybindings |
| 01:05.14 | Kemayo | Pkekyo|: To answer your question, we prefer small, unmarked bills. Non-sequential if possible. |
| 01:06.18 | Pkekyo| | Kemayo: what question? |
| 01:06.29 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: yeah, but I was going to ask you something else...but I forgot :< |
| 01:12.19 | Xinhuan | about _routes |
| 01:12.27 | Xinhuan | or maybe tsp or maps |
| 01:23.22 | Pkekyo| | not really |
| 01:23.26 | Pkekyo| | but when on the subject... |
| 01:23.39 | Pkekyo| | what items can you use to make routes? only ores/herbs? |
| 01:28.29 | Pkekyo| | damnit, I need a new forum to troll when bored :< |
| 01:28.39 | Orionshock | i got tomtom.... only thing i don't like bout it is that there is no arrow and no ETA |
| 01:29.51 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: what you on about? :p |
| 01:30.20 | kergoth | someone should write a little carto_waypoints/tomtom based addon to yell at me, beeping repeatedly, if i fly past my destination and continue to do so... damn autorun, half the time i end up in the wrong continent when i'm not paying attention :P |
| 01:30.37 | Orionshock | lol |
| 01:31.45 | Pkekyo| | I'd sign that petition, kergoth |
| 01:31.45 | KivinSan | Is there one or several DKP addons that are favoured by the bulk of the wow community? |
| 01:31.46 | ramoz | Xinhuan: pong? |
| 01:32.11 | ramoz | Xinhuan: nvm |
| 01:32.28 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 01:32.53 | Xinhuan | [12/31 09:25:36] <Pkekyo|> what items can you use to make routes? only ores/herbs? |
| 01:33.02 | Xinhuan | ore, herbs, treasure, gas, fishing nodes |
| 01:33.09 | Pkekyo| | not quest objectives? :< |
| 01:33.13 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 01:33.17 | Pkekyo| | shame |
| 01:33.18 | Orionshock | lol |
| 01:33.25 | Xinhuan | i select the entire category of types at a go |
| 01:33.26 | Pkekyo| | was gonna make me a fancy mana berries route :p |
| 01:33.36 | Xinhuan | for example, all Solid Chests |
| 01:33.41 | Xinhuan | or all Felweeds |
| 01:33.51 | Xinhuan | that method wouldn't work on quest objectives |
| 01:34.13 | Xinhuan | plus, _routes on quest objectives is a bit silly when you don't have a flying mount at 70 (you'll be less than lvl 70) |
| 01:35.31 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuanthat method wouldn't work on quest objectives <--- why not? |
| 01:35.34 | Xinhuan | route will just go thru hills |
| 01:35.46 | Xinhuan | because the databases aren't stored in the same manner |
| 01:35.49 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: was mainly thinking about mana berries tbh :p |
| 01:35.53 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 01:36.08 | Xinhuan | in each of those gathering modules, the data was simply in the |
| 01:36.17 | Xinhuan | [12345678] = "Felweed", |
| 01:36.18 | Xinhuan | format |
| 01:36.28 | Xinhuan | where 12345678 is the XY coordinate |
| 01:36.41 | Xinhuan | and the parent table is the zone name |
| 01:36.42 | Xinhuan | like |
| 01:37.01 | Xinhuan | ["Shadowmoon Valley"] = { [12345678] = "Felweed", [87654321] = "Felweed",} |
| 01:37.03 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 01:37.10 | Xinhuan | that's easy to manipulate |
| 01:37.26 | Xinhuan | so when the user picks "Felweed" |
| 01:37.34 | Xinhuan | i just pluck all the matching coords out |
| 01:37.39 | Xinhuan | and put them all in a route |
| 01:38.42 | ramoz | Xinhuan: i just thought postal ate 600g of me (if you enter money, then alt-click a item it sends the mail without changing the topic) |
| 01:39.21 | Xinhuan | so what did it end up doing? |
| 01:40.08 | ramoz | not sending the money, just the item with 600g 0s 0c in the topic |
| 01:40.44 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 01:41.01 | Xinhuan | you can turn off the auto-send anyway |
| 01:41.14 | Xinhuan | under Express Options |
| 01:42.10 | ramoz | aha |
| 01:42.24 | ramoz | i was more worried that postal just took the item and then deleted the mail with money :P |
| 01:42.50 | Xinhuan | you can't delete mail with money in it |
| 01:42.55 | ramoz | oh |
| 01:42.56 | Xinhuan | Blizzard API laws |
| 01:43.01 | Xinhuan | if you try, nothing happens |
| 01:43.08 | Xinhuan | you can delete mail with items in it, but never gold |
| 01:43.11 | Xinhuan | (lol @ blizzard) |
| 01:43.12 | cladhaire | [ |
| 01:43.48 | cladhaire | Orionshock: the arrow will be released within the month |
| 01:43.54 | cladhaire | kergoth: i'll consider that a feature request |
| 01:43.56 | cladhaire | :P |
| 01:44.47 | Xinhuan | ~seen wobin |
| 01:44.49 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd (3d 18h 35m 22s), last said: 'appears not =('. |
| 01:45.03 | Xinhuan | wrong wobin |
| 01:48.04 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis |
| 01:48.05 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace (6h 3m 36s), last said: 'then make him play an alliance paladin'. |
| 01:48.10 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: pingalingdingdong? |
| 01:49.32 | Pkekyo| | http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ignorecl7.jpg ftw! |
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| 01:53.10 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57699 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): |
| 01:53.10 | CIA-8 | WoWEquip: |
| 01:53.10 | CIA-8 | - Add Adamantite Weapon Chain. |
| 01:53.10 | CIA-8 | - Add initial Racial support into the derived calculations. Race is not saved into profiles yet. That's a bit tricky... |
| 01:54.14 | Xinhuan | oh yes, tricky indeed |
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| 01:58.24 | Pkekyo| | http://www.wowitemcreator.com/view/146823/Ignore_Armor_Crab.html |
| 01:58.25 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 01:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | david tennent is so awesome |
| 01:59.06 | Pkekyo| | who the flying fuck is david tennent? |
| 01:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | only one of the best doctors ever. |
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| 02:09.38 | Codayus | Ah, another day, another "special" applicant. |
| 02:09.59 | Codayus | This holy priest is looking for a guild who will help him with dailies, because they're too hard. |
| 02:10.07 | Xinhuan | i'm interested, please go on |
| 02:10.39 | Pkekyo| | rofl Codayus |
| 02:10.45 | Pkekyo| | tell him to specc shadow and quit his bitching |
| 02:10.53 | Codayus | Heh |
| 02:12.01 | Codayus | Since he was apping for a healing slot, probably not the perfect solution. |
| 02:12.34 | Pkekyo| | either way , telling him to quit his bitching is very viable |
| 02:12.49 | Codayus | Yar. |
| 02:13.21 | Codayus | Not like holy farming is even that bad since the addition of spell damage to healing gear. |
| 02:14.31 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 02:16.49 | Xinhuan | there's at least 5 dailies you barely need to kill anything |
| 02:16.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 02:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | 5 that don't require you to even have epic riding |
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| 02:17.36 | Xinhuan | 1. memory game 2. bombing run 3. bombing run 4. capture 5 stupid thingies 5. booterang 6. collect 15 cargo |
| 02:17.45 | Codayus | This priest does have epic riding, incidentally. |
| 02:17.58 | JoshBorke | memory game blows |
| 02:18.01 | Xinhuan | that must mean he isn't a tailor |
| 02:18.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but its trivially easy, JoshBorke |
| 02:18.13 | Codayus | I know this because I asked if he had whitemends, and he said know, he had blues, because whitemend was too expensive, and he had spent all his gold on an epic mount. |
| 02:18.15 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i have epic riding and am tailor |
| 02:18.31 | JoshBorke | NightHawkTheSane: true |
| 02:18.33 | Codayus | And yes, he is a tailor. Why? (I have epic riding, and I'm a tailor...) |
| 02:18.41 | JoshBorke | except when the mobs aggro and make you restart |
| 02:18.51 | NightHawkTheSane | true, that does suck. doesn't happen to me often though |
| 02:19.19 | JoshBorke | dual boxing if i'm going for max gold i'll do banish, bomb, bomb, wrangle |
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| 02:19.35 | JoshBorke | it's like doing 8 dailies :D |
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| 02:20.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I usually do bomb, escort (if i can get it easilly), bomb, wrangle, memory. hen call it a day |
| 02:20.24 | Xinhuan | you can ninja the banish quest too |
| 02:20.34 | Xinhuan | the person with the closest demon gate gets the quest credit |
| 02:20.52 | Xinhuan | so if you open a gate near someone closer than his gate hehe |
| 02:20.57 | Xinhuan | or pull aggro on his mob |
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| 02:28.28 | NightHawkTheSane | "I never lose!" "You can't even sink the Titanic!" |
| 02:29.09 | Fisker- | OLD |
| 02:29.57 | Orionshock | how long has tbc been out? |
| 02:30.02 | Orionshock | 9months? |
| 02:30.05 | Orionshock | 10months? |
| 02:30.18 | Nargiddley | 12+ |
| 02:30.31 | Orionshock | kk |
| 02:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | a year in january? |
| 02:30.36 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 02:30.42 | Pkekyo| | 15th jan (methinks) it's 12 months |
| 02:30.46 | Nargiddley | ok not quite 12 then |
| 02:31.04 | Orionshock | another question: how long would an average guild take from starting Gruul's Lair to actualy killing gruul for the first time? |
| 02:31.10 | Orionshock | month? or 2? |
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| 02:33.18 | Pkekyo| | highly dependant on guild leadership tbh |
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| 02:34.34 | Seerah | wow, it's been a while since I've been on here :P evening ladies and gents |
| 02:35.27 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin |
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| 02:35.59 | Xinhuan | Orionshock: 2 days |
| 02:37.03 | Xinhuan | mainly because the gear from heroic badges you can get now is so ridiculously overpowered |
| 02:37.40 | Xinhuan | gruul is a pushover when you're using ilvl 128 gear to kill a ilvl 115 or so boss |
| 02:37.41 | Orionshock | we cleared gruuls in 3 days @ 4 hrs each, and at that point our dps was severly undergeared |
| 02:37.58 | Xinhuan | at this stage, i'll say it'll take about 2 days |
| 02:38.16 | Xinhuan | i assume a starting guild on gruul will be doing 2 kara groups |
| 02:38.21 | Orionshock | and we're still struggling with it because we pug in 1/3rd of our raid with non guildies that ... sometimes have what it takes |
| 02:38.27 | Xinhuan | each of which will be easily getting 20 badges a week |
| 02:38.28 | Orionshock | ... we have 3 |
| 02:38.36 | Xinhuan | plus some dailies and heroics |
| 02:38.53 | Xinhuan | the gear from badges easily outgears the stuff from gruul.. don't even bother with mag lol |
| 02:39.00 | Xinhuan | ZA drops loot better than Mag |
| 02:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | "No, its just France and Germany, only Britan is Great." |
| 02:44.40 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: with yourself again? |
| 02:44.51 | Pkekyo| | it's not that much of an achievement |
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| 02:47.01 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 02:47.15 | Xinhuan | i think a wiki article for upgrading libs from ace2 to libstub would be great </rambling over> |
| 02:47.29 | Pkekyo| | someone come and boost me through WPL please |
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| 02:49.32 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 02:49.32 | purl | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.12.31 2:49:32 GMT) |
| 02:49.41 | Pkekyo| | bloody hell...4am allready |
| 02:49.59 | Fisker- | what server you on? |
| 02:51.55 | Pkekyo| | BF-eu |
| 02:53.26 | NightHawkTheSane | "You only knew what to do because you remember me watching you do it?!" |
| 02:54.13 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: err....wha? |
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| 02:55.48 | Fisker- | oh u Pkekyo| |
| 02:57.28 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: hms? |
| 02:57.50 | Pkekyo| | geif moar forums to troll! |
| 02:58.50 | Xinhuan | try xckd forums |
| 02:59.11 | Pkekyo| | xckd? |
| 03:02.23 | Xinhuan | maybe its xkcd :D |
| 03:02.39 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe what's xkcd? |
| 03:02.47 | Xinhuan | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 03:02.48 | Fisker- | comic |
| 03:02.55 | Xinhuan | a comic site about maths and science |
| 03:02.59 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i know what xkcd is |
| 03:03.02 | Xinhuan | every mon/wed/fri |
| 03:03.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i meant your comment "maybe its xkcd" |
| 03:03.18 | Xinhuan | their forums are quite technical in some of them and can be quite interesting |
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| 03:04.42 | Pkekyo| | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/christmas_back_home.png ilol'd |
| 03:04.59 | Xinhuan | need to read the alt-text too |
| 03:05.05 | Xinhuan | that's usually the punchline |
| 03:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | well, not always the punchline |
| 03:05.54 | Xinhuan | i liked the one where they had someone holding up a sign for a physicist at the crossroads |
| 03:05.57 | Xinhuan | with a puzzle on it |
| 03:06.02 | Xinhuan | about a infinite grid of resistors |
| 03:06.03 | NightHawkTheSane | its more like the comment in the lower-right hand corner of tom toles comics |
| 03:06.20 | Xinhuan | and the ohm across a knights move on that infinite grid :D |
| 03:06.26 | Pkekyo| | this is ridiculous... my lvl 51 mage has higher crits than my 70 warrior |
| 03:06.56 | Xinhuan | http://xkcd.com/356/ |
| 03:06.59 | Xinhuan | this one! |
| 03:07.41 | Xinhuan | it sparked a thread for the solution hehe |
| 03:07.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, i read part of that thread :P |
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| 03:09.00 | Pkekyo| | what about it? |
| 03:09.16 | Xinhuan | its funny and tickles my sense of humour |
| 03:10.31 | Xinhuan | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/ |
| 03:10.34 | Xinhuan | i'm bored |
| 03:10.46 | khangg | go 3man zg on the ptr :o |
| 03:11.03 | khangg | Pkekyo|, resil? |
| 03:11.05 | Xinhuan | why ptr |
| 03:11.09 | Xinhuan | can do it onlive realms lol |
| 03:12.17 | Pkekyo| | khangg: what you on about? |
| 03:12.26 | khangg | <Pkekyo|> this is ridiculous... my lvl 51 mage has higher crits than my 70 warrior |
| 03:12.37 | Pkekyo| | pve targets |
| 03:14.19 | khangg | ah |
| 03:15.23 | Pkekyo| | popping 2k+ pyros on my mage whilst on my warrior I'm lucky to get to 2k, on an ability except execute |
| 03:18.17 | Pkekyo| | anyone here good with cowtip? |
| 03:18.57 | Orionshock | me |
| 03:19.20 | Pkekyo| | got a problem with printing talents/speccs |
| 03:19.28 | Orionshock | nope |
| 03:19.41 | Pkekyo| | [TalentTree:Hide(None):Race] [PlayerClass][IsPet?Creature] |
| 03:19.48 | Pkekyo| | I've got the problem |
| 03:19.54 | Pkekyo| | see any errors in that line? |
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| 03:20.09 | Orionshock | [Classification] [Level] [TalentTree] [Class] |
| 03:20.20 | Orionshock | is what i use |
| 03:21.01 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 03:21.03 | Pkekyo| | I'll give it a try |
| 03:21.07 | Seerah | I believe your problem is the :Race bit. Race is not a modifier |
| 03:21.53 | Xinhuan | isn't :Hide(None) default? |
| 03:21.58 | Seerah | no |
| 03:22.15 | Seerah | if they are below lvl 10, you get None for tree and 0/0/0 for spec |
| 03:22.19 | Seerah | *points |
| 03:22.31 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 03:23.08 | Seerah | Anyway, try this: [TalentTree:Hide(None)] [Race] [PlayerClass] [IsPet?Creature] |
| 03:23.11 | Pkekyo| | using [Classification] [Level][SmartRace] [TalentTree] [SmartClass:ClassColor] now...seems it's working fine |
| 03:24.28 | Pkekyo| | isn't :Race a modifier? |
| 03:25.00 | Xinhuan | how would race affect anything |
| 03:25.02 | Pkekyo| | if so the entire thing is odd...as it was completely random wether the string worked or not |
| 03:25.19 | Xinhuan | of the talent |
| 03:25.50 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: when I couldn't see talents, it displayed the player race instead |
| 03:25.56 | Seerah | No, race is not a modifier |
| 03:26.10 | Seerah | Modifiers are ways that you can modify the string it's attached to |
| 03:26.25 | Seerah | like colors |
| 03:26.36 | Seerah | or () or [] |
| 03:27.01 | Pkekyo| | what I wanna know is why the :Race part worked, and the talenttree part didn't |
| 03:27.51 | Seerah | were those people below lvl 10? |
| 03:27.54 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:28.13 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 03:28.19 | Seerah | okay, then I don't know |
| 03:28.22 | Pkekyo| | didn't work even on my 70 chars |
| 03:28.47 | Seerah | all I know is that [Race] isn't a modifier and you had it in the wrong place in your tag |
| 03:29.22 | Seerah | or perhaps the : were working as an "else" there in that instance |
| 03:29.38 | Pkekyo| | yeah, it was there as an else |
| 03:29.55 | Pkekyo| | that was the general idea atleast |
| 03:30.18 | Pkekyo| | either way, [Classification] [Level][SmartRace] [TalentTree] [SmartClass:ClassColor] displays 51 Blood Elf Frost Mage |
| 03:30.22 | Pkekyo| | so I'm happy :9 |
| 03:30.34 | Pkekyo| | any way to get "lvl" in before the level number there btw? |
| 03:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ... put it in? |
| 03:31.08 | Pkekyo| | you can do that? |
| 03:31.15 | Orionshock | Line Literal |
| 03:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Why not? |
| 03:31.32 | NightHawkTheSane | how do you think your spaces get translated properly? |
| 03:31.52 | Pkekyo| | I don't know how these bloody things work, I just use them and ask you lot for help |
| 03:32.01 | Seerah | Use the Text() tag |
| 03:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its pretty obvious that you have no clue :P |
| 03:32.26 | Pkekyo| | no, need, just wrote it between [Classification] and [level] |
| 03:32.38 | Seerah | either [Text(lvl)][Level] or [Level:Prepend(lvl)] would work too |
| 03:32.47 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: been meaning to learn about this stuff, but for some reason it just doesn't happen |
| 03:33.05 | Pkekyo| | I just did [classification] lvl [level]....works fine |
| 03:34.37 | Pkekyo| | was planning to learn php, ruby and lua....haven't happen for some reason :p |
| 03:36.04 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | this chocolate is a bit old |
| 03:36.14 | Pkekyo| | guess I spend too much time sodding about with poor html code |
| 03:36.18 | Pkekyo| | GEIF CHOCOLATE |
| 03:36.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I wonder if this is even still good to eat |
| 03:36.45 | Pkekyo| | try it |
| 03:36.47 | Pkekyo| | or give it to me |
| 03:36.59 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, i'm still eating it |
| 03:37.13 | NightHawkTheSane | it was really more an academic question |
| 03:38.22 | Pkekyo| | don't question food unless it looks nasty or taste really bad tbh |
| 03:38.35 | Pkekyo| | well, question it if it smells like old butthole |
| 03:38.49 | Pkekyo| | is there any addon that can sync friends across chars? |
| 03:38.56 | Xinhuan | quite a few |
| 03:39.01 | Xinhuan | don't remember them by name though |
| 03:39.14 | KivinSan | I actually found one a few hours ago by typing "ignore" into curse |
| 03:39.30 | KivinSan | Don't remember what it was called, though |
| 03:40.17 | Orionshock | Pkekyo|: auld lang syne can |
| 03:40.42 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: how? |
| 03:40.56 | Orionshock | i forget but i know it can :D |
| 03:41.20 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.28 | Pkekyo| | that was hard :p |
| 03:41.30 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57700 10KivinLootzor/ (Lootzor.lua modules/outlandDungeons.lua): |
| 03:41.30 | CIA-8 | KivinLootzor: |
| 03:41.30 | CIA-8 | - Added Karazhan, Gruul's Lair, Black Temple loot tables. |
| 03:41.46 | Pkekyo| | any addon that can extend my friendslist? I'm running out of slots |
| 03:41.58 | Xinhuan | no, friendslist is hardlimited by the server |
| 03:42.16 | Pkekyo| | well that's bollocks |
| 03:42.17 | Pkekyo| | why? |
| 03:42.26 | Xinhuan | ignorelist extension addons are not really ignoring those people, they are just filtering them out from your chatlog so you don't see them |
| 03:42.31 | KivinSan | the same addon i was looking at claimed to make your friend and ignore lists infinite, but you know what that's worth |
| 03:42.37 | Xinhuan | and auto declining them |
| 03:42.49 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: that, I know |
| 03:42.51 | Xinhuan | both have the same 50 people limit |
| 03:42.58 | Fisker- | you could do the same with a friends list addon |
| 03:43.06 | Fisker- | it would just be inaccurate |
| 03:43.07 | Pkekyo| | just was hoping there'd be an equivalent for friends |
| 03:43.12 | Pkekyo| | inaccurate how? |
| 03:43.14 | Xinhuan | not really, you can't really track when they come online without constant /whos |
| 03:43.17 | Fisker- | you'd have a list of people |
| 03:43.27 | Xinhuan | or a constant rotation of changing who is on your friends list |
| 03:43.34 | Fisker- | and you wouldn't be able to see when they got online and offline unless you're constantly /who'ing for it |
| 03:43.39 | Xinhuan | by doing friendadd/frienddelete in the background |
| 03:43.43 | Xinhuan | which would be kinda gay |
| 03:43.45 | Pkekyo| | I think prat is doing constant /whos anyways, so I wouldn't mind :p |
| 03:43.53 | KivinSan | Prat does |
| 03:43.59 | KivinSan | Every time it's off cooldown |
| 03:44.03 | Xinhuan | if 2 addons are constantly doing /whos, they tend to conflict in a bad way |
| 03:44.13 | Pkekyo| | why does blizz insist that you may only have 50 friends at a time? >.< |
| 03:44.15 | Xinhuan | since each isn't expecting the other |
| 03:44.22 | Xinhuan | to be using up /who |
| 03:44.55 | Xinhuan | clean up your list |
| 03:45.02 | Xinhuan | some of them probably haven't logged on for 6 months |
| 03:45.42 | Pkekyo| | longest offline time is 3 days for alts |
| 03:46.13 | Xinhuan | you don't really need to track every alt do you, of a player ~_~ |
| 03:47.35 | Pkekyo| | no, but I'm trying to keep track of the players of three separate guilds |
| 03:47.47 | Orionshock | if they're in guild then take em off the friends list |
| 03:47.49 | Pkekyo| | so 50 chars on friendslist is rather insuficcient either way |
| 03:48.18 | Pkekyo| | Orionshock: guildies are on guildlist |
| 03:48.32 | Pkekyo| | that means two other guild + randoms on friendslist |
| 03:48.38 | Seerah | Pkekyo: get WhoFavorites |
| 03:48.39 | Pkekyo| | s/guild/guilds/ |
| 03:48.48 | Pkekyo| | Seerah: hms? |
| 03:48.53 | Orionshock | your problem i think is the 3 guilds idea |
| 03:49.01 | Seerah | "Saves who searches in a favorites list." |
| 03:49.02 | Pkekyo| | true |
| 03:49.12 | Seerah | Save a search for each guild |
| 03:49.30 | Pkekyo| | saves the information offline? |
| 03:49.40 | Pkekyo| | or just does a /who guildname on demand? |
| 03:49.49 | Xinhuan | so seerah, wanna categorize icons? :P |
| 03:49.59 | Seerah | then no need to type. Select from the list. Also helpful if you have a few friend guilds for pugs |
| 03:50.08 | Seerah | Xinhuan: lol |
| 03:50.59 | Seerah | Pkekyo: you can save searches for guilds, names, etc. Then you can select them from a dropdown list on the Who pane |
| 03:51.06 | Seerah | download and try, if you don't like, delete |
| 03:51.25 | Pkekyo| | ok, thanks for the tip |
| 03:52.35 | Pkekyo| | gah, I get bombarded by CSS errors every bloody time I go to files.wowace.com |
| 03:53.06 | Seerah | ??? |
| 03:53.41 | Pkekyo| | I run opera....when it detects larger amounts of more or less critical CSS errors, it pops a huge error console frame |
| 03:53.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ... disable that? |
| 03:53.53 | Seerah | http://files.wowace.com/WhoFavorites/WhoFavorites-r39677.1047.zip |
| 03:54.09 | Pkekyo| | NightHawkTheSane: it's useful when coding my own stuff |
| 03:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | thats why you turn it on when doing development, and off when you're not |
| 03:54.28 | NightHawkTheSane | a novel fucking concept |
| 03:55.02 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed :p |
| 03:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | so shut the fuck upo |
| 03:55.35 | Pkekyo| | it's only my own sites and files.wowace that makes that console pop anyways :p |
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| 04:18.52 | Pkekyo| | how does manaregen work? |
| 04:22.44 | Osstia|mac | anyone here play on a mac? |
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| 04:23.56 | Pkekyo| | Osstia|mac: yes, some does |
| 04:24.03 | Pkekyo| | what's with having three separate users here btw? |
| 04:24.45 | Osstia|mac | my work machine is still logged in |
| 04:25.01 | Osstia|mac | I have a linux box at work, and didn't logout |
| 04:25.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Osstia|mac: i do, why? |
| 04:25.39 | Osstia|mac | can you launch 2 copies of the game? |
| 04:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:25.53 | Osstia|mac | I have never been able to |
| 04:26.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: for 5 seconds after you finish casting or begin channeling a spell, you do not regen mana (barring any meditation-like talent that allows regen while casting) |
| 04:26.11 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57701 10BankStack/config.lua: BankStack: Allow guild bank tabs in custom bag groups. (Bit of an oversight that it wasn't already allowed.) |
| 04:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|: also, go to wowwiki.com for stuff like this. |
| 04:27.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Osstia|mac: i havn't done it myself, but i know it's possible. Not sure if you need to make a copy of just the app, or the entire folder |
| 04:27.24 | Osstia|mac | ok |
| 04:35.37 | Codayus | I just run the executable a second time. |
| 04:35.45 | Codayus | Works fine, if by fine you mean "wtf lag" |
| 04:36.10 | Codayus | But more than sufficient to mule an item across accounts in SW or whatever. |
| 04:37.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: unless you mean running the actual executable inside the .app package, that typically doesn't work on macs. |
| 04:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | and hell, i'm not even sure running the hidden executable file would work |
| 04:38.37 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 04:38.51 | Codayus | Sorry, my experience does not extent to Macs. :-) |
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| 04:42.52 | marco0009 | Hey. I'm extremely new to Lua and WoW Addon coding. I've been messing around with the Parser-3.0 lib and was wondering if its possible to use multiple event filters to exclude multiple events? |
| 04:44.17 | ckknight | yea, you check the uid |
| 04:44.23 | ckknight | to see if it's already come up before |
| 04:44.28 | ckknight | that's how I do it, at least |
| 04:44.37 | ckknight | note: I may be the author of Parser-3.0 |
| 04:45.00 | Pkekyo| | may? |
| 04:45.02 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: running the hidden executable does work, actually |
| 04:45.12 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: I like to keep em guessing |
| 04:45.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: does it? Good to know, I've never actually tried. |
| 04:45.32 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I've run 3 WoW instances that way |
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| 04:45.41 | ckknight | cheaper than making a copy of the folder |
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| 04:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 04:46.06 | Pkekyo| | rofl ckknight |
| 04:46.22 | ckknight | I've had to do comm testing |
| 04:46.48 | Pkekyo| | why does everyone sleep at night? bastards >.< |
| 04:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | because of the circadian cycle, and the fact that humans are ultimately sun worshipers. |
| 04:48.49 | Pkekyo| | the cica what? |
| 04:48.54 | NightHawkTheSane | look it up |
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| 04:53.46 | Pkekyo| | silly concept |
| 05:01.12 | exor674 | bleh, I wish I could lock the omen pullout threat thingy in place |
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| 05:04.44 | Roartindon | Evening peeps |
| 05:04.53 | Seerah | hola roartindon |
| 05:05.25 | Roartindon | What have I missed out in the last 3 months? :) |
| 05:06.04 | Seerah | ck's disappearance and then magical reappearance count? |
| 05:06.31 | Roartindon | Nope :) |
| 05:06.41 | Roartindon | lol |
| 05:06.52 | Seerah | ummmmm |
| 05:07.05 | Seerah | you didn't miss Ace3's release ;) |
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| 05:09.09 | Roartindon | hehe.. how is that coming along |
| 05:09.09 | Roartindon | ? |
| 05:09.13 | mathuin | Baggins question: "Bag Priority" -- is 1 a higher priority than 20? |
| 05:09.34 | Nargiddley | 20 is higher than 1 |
| 05:10.32 | Seerah | opposite from AI |
| 05:10.57 | Nargiddley | add bag priority to the sections priority, highest gets items first |
| 05:11.41 | mathuin | I created a category "GarbageFu Garbage" for everything GarbageFu says to drop, and I've added it to the trash section in the Other bag with trash and trashequip, but it's not quie working. |
| 05:11.55 | mathuin | stuff that's marked drop by garbagefu but is white doesn't show up. |
| 05:12.25 | mathuin | Thoughts? |
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| 05:20.27 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin Roartindon |
| 05:20.38 | Roartindon | Hey Pkekyo |
| 05:31.01 | Pkekyo| | meh...less people should sleep at night tbh |
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| 05:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmmm, i dont suppose there's a mod that will easily show you the average mana percentage of your group is there? |
| 05:34.41 | Fisker- | XRS did that |
| 05:34.56 | NightHawkTheSane | would it specifically show "my group" though? whichever group that is? :P |
| 05:35.04 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 05:35.06 | Fisker- | can't remembar |
| 05:35.38 | dylanm | You know I bet Assessment could somehow do that |
| 05:35.48 | dylanm | But uh "easily", right. |
| 05:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | im not sure I want all of assessment just for that |
| 05:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I could probably write something to do that. hmm |
| 05:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Mostly I just want to be able to easily monitor my group's mana so know when to ddrop mana tide |
| 05:38.39 | QuantumDelta | NightHawkTheSane, CTRa used to have a function that would do that |
| 05:39.08 | QuantumDelta | dunno if it's still there, but it had a mana (among other things) monitor that you could configure by group or by class what you wanted to monitor |
| 05:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | again, i dont want all of CTRA for that ;) |
| 05:39.32 | QuantumDelta | ask if you can borrow the code? :P |
| 05:39.49 | dylanm | Once you have assessment figured out I'm pretty sure you can make it do almost anything the usual set of raid tools does |
| 05:39.56 | dylanm | At least in terms of display |
| 05:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, im sure it's not terribly complex |
| 05:40.01 | Xuerian | It really shouldn't be hard.... |
| 05:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'll probably try and do it tomorrow |
| 05:40.16 | Xuerian | Iterate through raidx-raidx every x, add/divide... |
| 05:40.31 | Codayus | XRS does that, yes. |
| 05:41.00 | Xuerian | I knew XRS could monitor mana, just didn't remember if it could do it by group |
| 05:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i just checked, i still have it on my system |
| 05:41.19 | NightHawkTheSane | it will do it by group, but it's not smart about doing it to "my" group :P |
| 05:41.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd have to manually set it to whatever group i'm in, unless i missed something |
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| 05:42.11 | Xuerian | Could probably modify it to do that |
| 05:42.35 | Xuerian | like you said, pretty easily |
| 05:42.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, possibly |
| 05:42.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ill do it when i'm not about to raid ssc |
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| 05:42.58 | Xuerian | Bleh is there a way to hide omen out of combat? |
| 05:43.53 | QuantumDelta | it's default display setting is hide whilst ooc |
| 05:45.03 | Xuerian | I musta changed it then, cause it's not doing that on what I thought was a new/default profile 0_o |
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| 06:08.39 | exor674 | randomly |
| 06:08.56 | exor674 | I wish there was like a LIBRARY that all "show alts items" mod used |
| 06:10.32 | marco0009 | Ok, I'm not quite sure what I'm doing incorrectly but here's what I've got. In my parser-3.0 call I've got event_not="CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_OTHER", however I've got my mod spitting out some debug text when the parser registers an event, and I'm getting CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_OTHER being registered anyway |
| 06:10.43 | marco0009 | Any ideas as to why this would happen? |
| 06:12.32 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * rdf914e8509 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (5 files): User-submitted horde 40-45 updates |
| 06:12.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * rff993039fc 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (10 files): User-submitted horde 30-40 updates |
| 06:12.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r206bfefd6d 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (4 files): More user-submitted horde 23-30 updates |
| 06:12.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r84930e0abe 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (7 files): More user-submitted horde 30-40 updates |
| 06:12.41 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r726075c45e 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (6 files): User-submitted horde 23-30 updates |
| 06:12.42 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * re0f75505e4 10./TourGuide_Alliance/70_Shadowmoon_Valley_Aldor.lua: More Shadowmooning |
| 06:12.45 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r41a08e9a40 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (8 files): Cleanup of user-submitted Horde 30-40 |
| 06:12.48 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * re49a4f0f31 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (8 files): More user-submitted horde 40-45 updates |
| 06:12.51 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r06f55f2857 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (7 files): Cleanup of user-submitted Horde 23-30 |
| 06:12.54 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r5b92943279 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (14 files): More user-submitted horde 40-45 updates |
| 06:12.57 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r2c93f66a65 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (11 files): Cleanup of user-submitted Horde 40-50 |
| 06:13.00 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r7fbbfef4d2 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (15 files): User submitted horde 50-60 guides |
| 06:13.07 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03marekg <marekg@gmail.com> 07master * r8c87ce58ee 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (12 files): More user submitted horde 50-60 guides |
| 06:13.10 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r4201c62af3 10./ (2 files in 2 dirs): Sync Ally and Horde Un'goro (as much as possible) |
| 06:13.11 | Orionshock | SPAM |
| 06:13.13 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * re218f9734f 10./: |
| 06:13.14 | Orionshock | BOOT |
| 06:13.17 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Merge branch 'Horde_23-30' |
| 06:13.19 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Conflicts: |
| 06:13.21 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide_Horde/26_27_Ashenvale.lua |
| 06:13.23 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * re7d7baa3d3 10./ (5 files in 2 dirs): Sync Ally and Horde Felwood (as much as possible), merge second trip thru Felwood into Winterspring guide |
| 06:13.26 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r26755dfea8 10./: |
| 06:13.30 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Merge branches 'Horde_30-40', 'Horde_40-50' and 'Horde_50-60' |
| 06:13.32 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Conflicts: |
| 06:13.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide_Horde/Guides.xml |
| 06:13.36 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r581885da56 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (6 files): Fix file names for Horde 50-60 |
| 06:13.39 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r7b33fcdc73 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (11 files): Cleanup of user-submitted Horde 50-60 |
| 06:13.47 | Tekkub | <3 git-push |
| 06:13.51 | Fisker- | NO U Tekkub |
| 06:13.52 | Aeyan | =P |
| 06:13.56 | exor674 | gah... |
| 06:14.01 | Tekkub | I think it's done |
| 06:14.07 | Fisker- | how do i shot git? |
| 06:14.32 | Tekkub | those had been staged for a few weeks, finally got time to burn thru em and merge em to master |
| 06:15.10 | Fisker- | you only chose git because of the name |
| 06:15.12 | Fisker- | ~dict git |
| 06:15.14 | Fisker- | i know it |
| 06:15.23 | Tekkub | no I use git cause of the branches |
| 06:15.36 | Tekkub | SVN I would have forgotten about those branches a month ago |
| 06:15.43 | Tekkub | cause I never would have made em |
| 06:16.16 | Tekkub | it was *only* 18 commits, stop yous bitchin |
| 06:16.23 | exor674 | SVN has branches :P |
| 06:16.31 | Fisker- | so how do i download without getting a GIT client? |
| 06:16.48 | Fisker- | doh |
| 06:16.57 | Fisker- | i can't read |
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| 06:18.45 | Tekkub | SVN's branch mechanism blows beyond belief |
| 06:18.54 | Tekkub | and you don't realize it till you use git's :P |
| 06:21.08 | Fisker- | needs another 20-23 guide btw |
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| 06:34.18 | Orionshock | anyone figured out how to get assessment to show crushing blows? |
| 06:36.04 | Lukian | I use swstats unilog for that ^_^ |
| 06:36.20 | Lukian | simple matter of typing "**" in the search field |
| 06:36.37 | Orionshock | swstats synchs in combat |
| 06:36.42 | Orionshock | so it's a piece of trash |
| 06:39.17 | Lukian | heh. That causes issues for you? :p |
| 06:39.31 | Lukian | I wonder if the unilog is standalone |
| 06:39.44 | Orionshock | no |
| 06:39.53 | Orionshock | there just is no reason to by syncing in combat |
| 06:40.24 | Osstia|mac | NightHawkTheSane: You can just copy the .app |
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| 06:51.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Osstia|mac: yeah |
| 06:51.48 | CIA-8 | 03lilsparky * r57702 10LilSparkysLabPartner/: LilSparkysLabPartner: create |
| 06:53.06 | Osstia|mac | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.11 | Osstia|mac | just thought I would share |
| 06:55.07 | Osstia|mac | Is there a list of available font types for SetFont |
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| 07:11.40 | Osstia|mac | http://wowi.pastey.net/79831 |
| 07:11.41 | Osstia|mac | i am trying to create text at the top of a frame, but Settext() is failing because a font is not set, am I doing something wrong? |
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| 07:17.13 | CIA-8 | 03lilsparky * r57703 10LilSparkysLabPartner/readme.txt: |
| 07:17.13 | CIA-8 | LilSparkysLabPartner: |
| 07:17.13 | CIA-8 | initial commit |
| 07:19.07 | CIA-8 | 03lilsparky * r57704 10LilSparkysLabPartner/ (3 files): |
| 07:19.07 | CIA-8 | LilSparkysLabPartner: |
| 07:19.07 | CIA-8 | continued initial commit |
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| 07:21.38 | Fisker- | oh u? |
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| 07:21.58 | Zhinjio | Osstia: I'm not sure... |
| 07:22.03 | Zhinjio | it looks ok. |
| 07:22.10 | Zhinjio | are you getting an error on the SetFont call? |
| 07:22.22 | Osstia|mac | yeah |
| 07:22.41 | Osstia|mac | Message: ..\AddOns\farmTracker\FarmTracker.lua line 111: <unnamed>:SetText(): Font not set |
| 07:22.51 | Zhinjio | what I usually do, instead of what you've got there, is to do a GetFont call first, and then modify the font size only |
| 07:23.01 | Osstia|mac | I don't know why <unnamed> is showing |
| 07:23.01 | Zhinjio | that way, I know the font face and options are correct |
| 07:23.09 | Osstia|mac | okay |
| 07:23.14 | Zhinjio | maybe try that. |
| 07:23.20 | Arcaia | i swear life is hard... its so tempting to spec a pvp spec for pvp, but then I miss combat potency too damn much. |
| 07:23.35 | Zhinjio | I think, though, eventually, I just started using some of the standard ones like GameFontSmallNormal |
| 07:23.38 | Zhinjio | etc |
| 07:23.49 | Osstia|mac | that would work for me |
| 07:23.51 | Zhinjio | keeps things simple, and makes sure to have font compatibility |
| 07:23.59 | Osstia|mac | can I use that as the font type? |
| 07:24.03 | Osstia|mac | instead of a ttf? |
| 07:24.30 | Osstia|mac | I think I tried that first and it failed |
| 07:24.51 | Zhinjio | take a look at SetTextFontObject |
| 07:25.02 | CIA-8 | 03lilsparky * r57705 10LilSparkysLabPartner/ (2 files): |
| 07:25.02 | CIA-8 | LilSparkysLabPartner: |
| 07:25.03 | CIA-8 | trying desperately to commit initial |
| 07:25.15 | Zhinjio | for example: button:SetTextFontObject(GameFontNormalSmall) |
| 07:26.43 | Zhinjio | reference: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Button_SetTextFontObject |
| 07:26.59 | Osstia|mac | I thought I tried that |
| 07:27.10 | Osstia|mac | I think I had that along with a SetFont, and that screwed me up |
| 07:27.15 | Osstia|mac | That seems to work just fine |
| 07:27.23 | Zhinjio | excellent. |
| 07:27.36 | Zhinjio | yeah, I remember having a bit of trouble screwing directly with fonts as well, and settled on using that method |
| 07:27.50 | Osstia|mac | I like that way better |
| 07:27.58 | Osstia|mac | unless I was going for a custom non-game font |
| 07:28.23 | Zhinjio | and honestly, thats a bad idea anyway. Unless you distribute the font with your plugin. |
| 07:28.30 | Zhinjio | but geez... why would you want to do that. |
| 07:28.40 | Zhinjio | unless you're doing like a ClearFont type plugin |
| 07:29.57 | Osstia|mac | Thanks Zhinjio that works just how I wanted. I appreciate the help |
| 07:30.03 | Zhinjio | np |
| 07:30.20 | Zhinjio | I'm relatively new to this, but I've learned a thing or two in the past couple months |
| 07:30.25 | Osstia|mac | now, since I have to be to work in 6 hours I should be headed to bed |
| 07:30.40 | Osstia|mac | g'night al |
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| 07:35.09 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 07:35.10 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVku86WfVg |
| 07:39.45 | Zhinjio | thats pretty whacked |
| 07:42.42 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof * r57706 10Proximo/ (embeds.xml libs/): Proximo: Fixed back to using LibSharedMedia-2.0 correctly. |
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| 07:45.22 | exor674 | what is the normal turnaround on SVN access requests? |
| 07:45.46 | Zhinjio | a day or so |
| 07:45.57 | Zhinjio | keep in mind that its the holiday weekend, so include a delay for that |
| 07:46.59 | exor674 | hrm, I sent my request at like 11am mountain time on the 27th |
| 07:49.04 | Zhinjio | yeah, not sure what to tell you. Probably just a lack of people looking at stuff during the holidays |
| 07:49.20 | exor674 | I'll wait till net monday before getting really pissy |
| 07:49.41 | Zhinjio | that isn't likely to speed things up. |
| 07:50.01 | exor674 | by "pissy" I mean sending something being all "did my request get lost" and being all polite :P |
| 07:50.27 | exor674 | because mebbe google groups found my email tasty and ate it for a late christmas dinner :D |
| 07:52.07 | Zhinjio | mine was spam eaten when I initially applied. |
| 07:52.16 | Zhinjio | I bugged Kaelten in here and he found it and took care of it. |
| 07:52.20 | Zhinjio | so yeah, thats entirely possible. |
| 07:52.26 | Zhinjio | check with mods in here when they're on |
| 07:58.39 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r53dfc5b79b 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (3 files): Horde Plaguelands tweaks, including a lot of notes from the Ally guides |
| 07:58.39 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rff011e605a 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (5 files): Ally Plaguelands tweaks |
| 08:06.16 | Lukian | does agUF still have the option to show own frame in party layout? |
| 08:09.01 | Gngsk | what's the point of that, you have a player frame |
| 08:09.12 | Lukian | oh really? |
| 08:09.18 | Lukian | I don't use the agUF player frame |
| 08:09.21 | Lukian | I use icehud |
| 08:09.25 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 08:09.27 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof * r57707 10Proximo/ (Proximo.toc embeds.xml libs/): Proximo: Really...Fixed back to using LibSharedMedia-2.0 correctly. Why we have to embed LibStub for a library already embedding it makes no sense... |
| 08:09.53 | Lukian | I need my own frame in party for click healing |
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| 08:14.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:14.18 | Fisker- | why can't i /script Stuck(); anymoar? :( |
| 08:20.36 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night |
| 08:22.30 | Fisker- | nope |
| 08:22.41 | Fisker- | i touch myself at day |
| 08:23.21 | Fisker- | fucking annoying |
| 08:23.25 | Fisker- | i have an escalated ticket |
| 08:23.27 | Fisker- | i'm stuck |
| 08:23.36 | Fisker- | abandon ticket to unstuck |
| 08:23.36 | Fisker- | gg |
| 08:23.52 | Fisker- | (i'm not stuck i just want to exploit btw) |
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| 08:30.21 | Lukian | Fisker-, lodge the other ticket on an alt |
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| 08:43.38 | Xinhuan | wow tekkub tore apart RR |
| 08:43.55 | Laric | rr? |
| 08:44.06 | Xinhuan | ReagentRestocker |
| 08:44.10 | Laric | ah |
| 08:46.55 | haste | Xinhuan: that was a pretty common Tekkub action :p |
| 08:47.13 | Xinhuan | yes, but for him to actually tear apart an addon, it means he must actually like the addon |
| 08:47.27 | Xinhuan | at least, like what it does |
| 08:47.54 | haste | no, it means he likes what it does |
| 08:48.15 | haste | ssh lag + 9 in load == horrible typing speed |
| 08:54.35 | Zhinjio | Heya Xinhuan, ckknight |
| 08:54.39 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 08:54.49 | ckknight | howdy |
| 08:55.34 | Zhinjio | How're y'all doing tonight? |
| 08:55.50 | Xinhuan | i just woke up so i'm browsing forums for noobs to kill |
| 08:55.54 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:56.13 | Zhinjio | just scanning AH to do some more prospecting |
| 08:56.57 | Zhinjio | than back to the code. |
| 08:57.10 | Zhinjio | then, rather. |
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| 09:17.16 | Zhinjio | very nice. 32 blue gems in 101 prospects. not too damn bad. |
| 09:18.29 | Tem | that's a profit :) |
| 09:18.39 | Tem | (and how I got my epic mount) |
| 09:18.44 | Zhinjio | hell yeah. |
| 09:19.01 | Fisker- | reported for prospecting |
| 09:19.08 | Tem | (course, back then it was more profitable... almost triple your money before they nerfed the prospecting rate) |
| 09:19.21 | Zhinjio | its still quite a good bit of cash |
| 09:25.37 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r749 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Importing StealYourCarbon - A reagent restocking addon |
| 09:25.47 | Fisker- | One does not simply steal your carbon |
| 09:26.36 | Tekkub | Someday you will die and somehow something's gonna steal your carbon |
| 09:26.57 | Ellipsis | not mah carbonz |
| 09:27.02 | Fisker- | aww |
| 09:27.13 | Fisker- | atleast you could've said i would die today |
| 09:27.39 | ckknight | pretty neat: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=7TPA0r94PTk |
| 09:30.35 | MoonWolf | Tekkub, i like the name already |
| 09:30.47 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 09:30.52 | Tekkub | you should get the song |
| 09:31.01 | MoonWolf | its a song |
| 09:31.04 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 09:31.29 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.33 | Zhinjio | Manara is my favorite graphic artist by far. |
| 09:34.11 | MoonWolf | someone make my internets faster |
| 09:35.33 | ckknight | here we go: http://mijnkopthee.nl/images/human_timeline.jpg |
| 09:35.39 | ckknight | (NSFW) |
| 09:36.47 | MoonWolf | lulz |
| 09:36.55 | MoonWolf | mycupoftea |
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| 09:38.37 | Zhinjio | I think I have most of what he's published. |
| 09:38.44 | Zhinjio | or, well.... I did about 10 years ago *grin* |
| 09:38.53 | Zhinjio | I haven't kept up with it very well in recent years |
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| 09:42.43 | Xinhuan | [12/31 17:21:05] <@Tem> (course, back then it was more profitable... almost triple your money before they nerfed the prospecting rate) |
| 09:42.46 | Xinhuan | they never nerfed it |
| 09:42.49 | Xinhuan | they actually buffed it |
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| 09:53.26 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: They nerfed the vendor value of the green gems |
| 09:53.45 | Zhinjio | Yeah, well... |
| 09:53.50 | Xinhuan | not directly, they did it only to reduce the AH price of putting it up |
| 09:53.57 | Zhinjio | green gems were selling for ridiculously low prices anyway |
| 09:54.02 | Xinhuan | it was 60 silver back then to put a green gem up for 24 hours |
| 09:54.10 | Xinhuan | now its 15s |
| 09:54.38 | Fisker- | green gems are shit anyways |
| 09:54.40 | Fisker- | only fags would use it |
| 09:54.49 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: No, they did it because people were making too much money on prospecting |
| 09:55.01 | Xinhuan | no it wasn't |
| 09:55.02 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: It had nothing to do with AH, who would put green gems on AH anyways? :) |
| 09:55.10 | Xinhuan | it was due to complaints on AH price, a blue stated this |
| 09:55.12 | Kalroth | I got 3 stacks of all available green gems |
| 09:55.22 | Xinhuan | only 3? i have a few hundred |
| 09:55.28 | Xinhuan | i have prospected 140k ore since patch 2.1 |
| 09:55.34 | Kalroth | I vendor them for room |
| 09:55.37 | Xinhuan | and that only counts adamantite ore |
| 09:55.38 | Kalroth | They used to be 1g per |
| 09:55.51 | Xinhuan | yes but the vendor price had nothing to do with prospecting value |
| 09:55.59 | Tekkub | I just DE, I don't see any profit to Prospecting on my server |
| 09:56.00 | Xinhuan | they reduced the vendor price for 2 main reasons |
| 09:56.26 | Xinhuan | 1. The AH price of putting it up is too high 2. They made 100% chance of getting at least a green gem so they had to drop the value to compensate |
| 09:56.38 | Xinhuan | you used to be sometimes get 0 gems out of a prospect |
| 09:56.42 | Xinhuan | and it was shit |
| 09:57.11 | Xinhuan | then they made the oversight of only 1/4 the price of half the gems |
| 09:57.12 | Kalroth | uh |
| 09:57.15 | Xinhuan | and forgot to do it for the other half |
| 09:57.23 | Xinhuan | so cutting the gems and vendoring it made a profit |
| 09:57.26 | Kalroth | It was like 1 out of 10 that didn't give any gems at all |
| 09:57.33 | Kalroth | yet they cut the gem price by 75% |
| 09:57.40 | Kalroth | value* |
| 09:57.45 | Xinhuan | would you really like me to hunt for the blue post that is a direct response to the AH cost? |
| 09:58.13 | Kalroth | I'm hunting myself, no need |
| 10:00.16 | Kalroth | All the patch notes said was |
| 10:00.17 | Kalroth | "The vendor value for the raw green gems have been reduced. This will also make these gems cheaper to put up on the auction house (Blood Garnet, Golden Draenite, etc...) " |
| 10:00.52 | MoonWolf | also it made them tottally unselable on the ah |
| 10:01.06 | MoonWolf | so now our guildbank Has metric shitons of them |
| 10:01.12 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: What's the name of the mod that lets you dress up items and see the stats with those items on? |
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| 10:01.19 | Xinhuan | wowequip |
| 10:01.22 | KivinSan | sankyu |
| 10:01.26 | Fisker- | Barbie play house |
| 10:01.31 | Kalroth | Yup, like I said, I just vendor them now. I only keep a small stash incase I need them for anything. |
| 10:01.31 | KivinSan | woot |
| 10:03.14 | Xinhuan | Kalroth, you will find that you earn more money if you make rings out of those gems instead of vendoring |
| 10:03.28 | Xinhuan | and even more if you choose to DE those rings instead of vendoring the rings |
| 10:03.43 | Xinhuan | practically doubled my income |
| 10:03.49 | Xinhuan | by spending a bit more time |
| 10:03.56 | Xinhuan | to make/DE those rings |
| 10:03.56 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: That means more effort though :) |
| 10:04.05 | Zhinjio | meh, doesn't take much time. |
| 10:04.09 | Xinhuan | yeah well, 25s per gem |
| 10:04.25 | Xinhuan | 2 of them + 1 fel iron bar = 1 ring = 2-3 dust or 2-3 LPE |
| 10:04.32 | Xinhuan | which is like 4-5g |
| 10:04.42 | Xinhuan | fel iron bars are like 1g each |
| 10:04.48 | Xinhuan | just buy from AH |
| 10:04.50 | Xinhuan | or smelt |
| 10:04.53 | Zhinjio | out of that batch (101 prospects, i got ... uh... 59 arcane dust, 6 GEE, 2 LEE and 2 SPS |
| 10:05.03 | Zhinjio | er, GPE, LPE |
| 10:05.05 | Xinhuan | its definitely worth it |
| 10:05.21 | Xinhuan | just sharing how i got my 88k gold :D |
| 10:05.22 | Kalroth | I got 3 bags of dust, 2 bags of the other enchant shit - lately I don't bother to disenchant stuff, I just vendor it :) |
| 10:05.36 | Xinhuan | the enchanting stuff sells easily on AH though |
| 10:05.37 | Kalroth | I never, ever played AH and I got 8k gold + swift mounts |
| 10:05.46 | Kalroth | money in WoW comes free |
| 10:06.01 | Xinhuan | i know, i don't try anymore |
| 10:06.13 | Xinhuan | and upping dailies to 25 next patch in 2.4 |
| 10:06.15 | Xinhuan | is crazy |
| 10:06.25 | Kalroth | Yeah, gold will be even more worthless |
| 10:06.54 | Xinhuan | i expect new lvl 375 mounts in WotLK requiring 15k gold lol |
| 10:07.08 | Kalroth | You get weapons and gear from simply slacking in battlegrounds |
| 10:07.26 | Kalroth | and ~150g a day from dailies |
| 10:07.45 | Kalroth | Blizzard might as well add a gold or loot dispenser in the major towns |
| 10:08.07 | Xinhuan | that's the thing, i don't even do dailies, i just sit in IF all day and i'm getting 1000g a day |
| 10:08.16 | Kalroth | That's super boring though :) |
| 10:08.18 | Xinhuan | that's how ridiculous it is |
| 10:08.27 | Xinhuan | but its perfect, because i write addons and reloadui a lot |
| 10:08.29 | Kalroth | I can't stand towns, I prefer smashing shit |
| 10:08.34 | Kalroth | Sure, then it's grand :) |
| 10:08.34 | Xinhuan | and cutting some gems in between is perfect |
| 10:09.13 | Kalroth | We got two AH whores in the guild, one does JC/enchanting, other does alchemy. Both got 100k+ gold now |
| 10:09.33 | Kalroth | They cover both horde and alliance AH, sit with dual accounts, checks AH 4-5 times a day |
| 10:10.07 | Xinhuan | sounds like me :D |
| 10:10.09 | Kalroth | I believe Blizzard already stated that the 5k mount was a mistake and that there wouldn't be new expensive mounts in Wrath |
| 10:10.28 | Kalroth | So all that money is good for nothing - hence I don't bother :) |
| 10:10.42 | Kalroth | As long as I got money for repairs + consumeables, it's all good |
| 10:10.43 | Xinhuan | hey if they ever implement guild housing or personal housing, i'm ready! |
| 10:10.45 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 10:10.51 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:11.11 | Kalroth | Our gbank is actually pretty poor, only 25k or so |
| 10:11.29 | Xinhuan | that sounds like a guildbank that doesn't spend |
| 10:12.21 | Kalroth | We do |
| 10:12.33 | Xinhuan | my personal belief is that it shouldn't go above 10k, if it has that much, it should pay people for repairs, buy their resistance gear, pay for their enchants/gems, etc |
| 10:12.35 | Kalroth | But patterns from SSC/TK/BT/Hyjal still sells well |
| 10:12.48 | Kalroth | hell no, we wipe a lot, we'd go broke in no time :) |
| 10:12.54 | Fisker- | lol |
| 10:13.00 | Fisker- | our guildbank doesn't even have 5k |
| 10:13.02 | Xinhuan | also, the gold limit is 214k :D |
| 10:13.38 | Kalroth | Yup, Miyari linked me the BL screenshot :) |
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| 10:14.38 | exor674 | gold limit? |
| 10:14.55 | Gngsk | yep |
| 10:14.55 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 10:15.00 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111504266&sid=1 <-best keylogger _EVER_ |
| 10:15.19 | Xinhuan | whip out a calculator if you want, and calculate (2^31 - 1) |
| 10:15.23 | Xinhuan | that's the gold limit |
| 10:15.36 | Fisker- | didn't know that chinese still played the beta |
| 10:15.52 | Ellipsis | old, Fisker- |
| 10:15.56 | exor674 | Iassume you mean copper limit |
| 10:16.01 | Ellipsis | that's been on like, every realm forum I've seen |
| 10:16.13 | Fisker- | BEST |
| 10:16.15 | Fisker- | KEYLOGGER |
| 10:16.16 | Fisker- | EVER |
| 10:16.18 | |Pixel| | you assume properly |
| 10:16.21 | Xinhuan | by gold limit, it refers to "money limit" generically |
| 10:16.22 | Fisker- | i don't care how old it is :P |
| 10:16.32 | Xinhuan | nobody refers to "gold" as "copper" hehe |
| 10:16.36 | exor674 | and my brain spazzed and read "214k" as 214 |
| 10:16.51 | exor674 | and was like o.O. thats VERY low |
| 10:17.44 | Kalroth | [11:17] (2^31-1) = 2147483647.00 |
| 10:17.45 | Kalroth | :) |
| 10:20.58 | Ellipsis | 9 hours til mah last mr. pinchy wish :o |
| 10:22.16 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: Do i need to convert defense rating into defense by hand? |
| 10:22.49 | Zhinjio | Semi-regular call for code review/commentary: http://geo.trippy.org/SKG/SKG_5.02.zip ... comments at http://skg.trippy.org/ |
| 10:23.06 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:23.11 | Xinhuan | you click the % button in the corner |
| 10:23.29 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis! I got incredibly lucky going for that. 2 Mr.Pinchy's on the second day of fishing for it. |
| 10:23.36 | Zhinjio | the 5th try got me the pet |
| 10:23.39 | Xinhuan | and in the other corner, you enter the level you want to convert at, usually its 70 |
| 10:23.39 | KivinSan | Ok, got it, thx |
| 10:24.11 | Xinhuan | what pet |
| 10:24.42 | Zhinjio | Magical Crawdad |
| 10:25.00 | Xinhuan | does it look like a crab? |
| 10:25.04 | Zhinjio | probably the hardest pet to get in the game. |
| 10:25.04 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 10:25.18 | Zhinjio | <-- stupid for pets. |
| 10:25.49 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 10:25.58 | Fisker- | the hardest pet to get is probably the valentines one |
| 10:26.00 | Zhinjio | which one is harder? |
| 10:26.04 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
| 10:26.16 | Zhinjio | perhaps, only because of limited availability time, though. |
| 10:26.27 | Xinhuan | i disagree, the hardest pet to get is the trading card game pets |
| 10:26.33 | Zhinjio | oh, screw those. |
| 10:26.41 | Fisker- | I disagree |
| 10:26.44 | Fisker- | they're not hard to get |
| 10:26.46 | Zhinjio | those aren't pets, they're money sinks for stupid people. |
| 10:26.47 | Xinhuan | oh a Mojo is quite hard to get too |
| 10:26.48 | Fisker- | they're just expensive to get |
| 10:26.54 | Xinhuan | you gotta really farm ZA |
| 10:26.55 | Fisker- | nah |
| 10:26.59 | Fisker- | mojo's are easy |
| 10:27.15 | Xinhuan | only the person with the stick can get the mojo |
| 10:27.41 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: I got this mr. pinchy on my third crawdad pool ever :P |
| 10:27.46 | Zhinjio | sweet. |
| 10:28.00 | Ellipsis | so far both wishes were the health flask though =[ |
| 10:28.15 | Zhinjio | the other good part is that you get lots of sellable cooking stuff for good money |
| 10:28.25 | Gngsk | I got a ton of mr. pinchys |
| 10:28.27 | Zhinjio | crawdad is one of the two (three?) 30 stam food items. |
| 10:28.32 | Gngsk | when I was hoping I'd get flasks :\ |
| 10:28.32 | KivinSan | If it says "Dodge Rating +4.49%", that's 4.5% in addition to my current dodge? |
| 10:28.44 | Xinhuan | yes, the calculations are only from the gear |
| 10:28.47 | Xinhuan | doesn't include base stats |
| 10:28.54 | KivinSan | umm... |
| 10:29.13 | KivinSan | i show 8.37% on the character sheet. that's with my current gear |
| 10:29.39 | KivinSan | can i take 8.4 + 4.5 to get the dodge with the wowequip profile? |
| 10:30.16 | Xinhuan | no the 8.37% is taking into account what you are currently wearing |
| 10:30.30 | Xinhuan | and also counts buffs |
| 10:30.32 | KivinSan | hmm... that's not very useful :( |
| 10:30.40 | Xinhuan | what you do is |
| 10:30.44 | Xinhuan | you click the C button |
| 10:30.52 | Xinhuan | and set it to compare against "currently equipped gear" |
| 10:30.58 | Xinhuan | make some changes |
| 10:31.00 | KivinSan | that's where it was |
| 10:31.09 | Xinhuan | and the "difference" number in the () brackets is more useful |
| 10:31.21 | KivinSan | it's the exact same as the unbracketed numbwer |
| 10:31.27 | KivinSan | s/numbwer/numbe |
| 10:31.28 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111504325&sid=1 <-wtf |
| 10:31.28 | KivinSan | r |
| 10:31.49 | Xinhuan | are you wearing anything heh |
| 10:31.57 | KivinSan | of course i am |
| 10:32.03 | KivinSan | got my pvp gear on atm |
| 10:32.11 | Xinhuan | your pvp gear doesn't have +def |
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| 10:32.26 | Xinhuan | so obviously the difference in +def is all the +def on your "created profile" |
| 10:32.37 | KivinSan | hmm i have some dodge on my gear, let me look at something that i don't have anything of. probably def. |
| 10:32.37 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 10:32.46 | KivinSan | i guess i'd be best off doing this naked, eh |
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| 10:33.01 | Xinhuan | the numbers outside the brackets is the "total" from the gear alone |
| 10:33.14 | Xinhuan | the number in the brackets is the difference when comapred against the "total from equipped gear" |
| 10:33.15 | KivinSan | but i need to calculate out my base by hand, or the gear total is meaningless |
| 10:33.26 | Xinhuan | the addon does not attempt or try to calculate your base% |
| 10:33.31 | Xinhuan | because its too difficult |
| 10:33.54 | KivinSan | So what i need to do is strip down to get my base, then add the +values from the addon |
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| 10:34.13 | KivinSan | sound right? |
| 10:34.30 | Xinhuan | all i can tell you is, if you wear this SetA of gear, you get +120 defense from it, if you wear SetB you get +138 out of it, so the difference is +28 |
| 10:34.35 | Xinhuan | when you compare setB vs setA |
| 10:35.00 | Xinhuan | so if the difference is +28, you can just add that to the number you see in the character info |
| 10:35.05 | KivinSan | alright, so i just take character sheet + setB to get actual theoretical values |
| 10:35.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:35.17 | KivinSan | groovy |
| 10:35.32 | Xinhuan | but note i haven't added code to take into account talents |
| 10:35.39 | Xinhuan | only racials and class atm |
| 10:35.49 | KivinSan | right, i have to add 20 defense and 30 block % by hand |
| 10:36.23 | Xinhuan | its kinda more for character planning, you know that you need 490 defense to reach the cap, and you have 350 base |
| 10:36.30 | Xinhuan | so you only need 140 from gear |
| 10:36.36 | Xinhuan | that's how you plan |
| 10:36.47 | KivinSan | i'm trying to calculate out my avoidance with some theoretical gear |
| 10:37.04 | Xinhuan | ah, yeah that's very tricky since each class's calculation of avoidance is different |
| 10:37.19 | KivinSan | still mostly the same. only thing my paladin has to add is 30% block |
| 10:37.33 | Xinhuan | you want to reach 102.4% avoidance |
| 10:37.36 | KivinSan | i know |
| 10:37.45 | KivinSan | does wowequip consider that defense rating adds dodge and parry? |
| 10:37.53 | Xinhuan | i'll check the code |
| 10:38.07 | Zhinjio | there's always tankpoihnts |
| 10:38.09 | Zhinjio | er, -h |
| 10:38.11 | Xinhuan | tier2data.PARRY= IBL:GetRatingBonus("CR_PARRY", bonuses.CR_PARRY or 0, level) + defenseBonus; |
| 10:38.11 | KivinSan | i'll take off something that gives def but no dodge and see if it changes |
| 10:38.17 | Xinhuan | local defenseBonus= floor(IBL:GetRatingBonus("CR_DEFENSE", bonuses.CR_DEFENSE or 0, level)) * 0.04;-- to block/parry/dodge |
| 10:38.25 | Xinhuan | there you go |
| 10:38.39 | KivinSan | so it does |
| 10:38.42 | KivinSan | thanks |
| 10:39.08 | Xinhuan | the neatest part is you can preview your dream gear set in the dressing room |
| 10:39.19 | Xinhuan | and ctrl-click links into wowequip as well |
| 10:39.25 | KivinSan | hmm i changed a peice of defense gear and my dodge didn't change |
| 10:39.38 | Xinhuan | what is the defense difference? |
| 10:39.59 | KivinSan | 25 rating, 10 skill |
| 10:40.15 | Xinhuan | are you using enUS |
| 10:40.18 | KivinSan | yes |
| 10:40.22 | Xinhuan | what gear is this |
| 10:40.33 | KivinSan | Want the whole profile? |
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| 10:40.38 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 10:40.45 | KivinSan | I changed my chest armor from: |
| 10:40.56 | KivinSan | Jade-Skull Breastplate |
| 10:41.02 | KivinSan | to a valueless grey item |
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| 10:42.17 | Xinhuan | works for me |
| 10:42.37 | KivinSan | hmm |
| 10:43.01 | Xinhuan | my dodge went up by 0.16% as a mage |
| 10:43.24 | Xinhuan | check the "Defenses" on top in equipment stats |
| 10:43.36 | Xinhuan | unequip the slot and reequip it |
| 10:43.50 | Xinhuan | the "Defense Rating" number should change by 25 |
| 10:43.56 | KivinSan | of coures it does |
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| 10:44.23 | Xinhuan | the dodge% below in "Derived Stats" should then change by 0.40% |
| 10:44.40 | KivinSan | Oh, derived stats... i'm looking at the very top |
| 10:45.00 | Xinhuan | the top dodge% you see is *only* dodge rating |
| 10:45.17 | KivinSan | alrighty |
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| 10:45.35 | KivinSan | was wondering why it was so low |
| 10:45.38 | Xinhuan | equipment stats are for individual stats so you can see the tradeoffs easily |
| 10:45.57 | Xinhuan | derived stats adds in all the stuff from each item after you factor in the agi, str, etc |
| 10:46.07 | KivinSan | 18% dodge, that's better |
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| 10:46.52 | Xinhuan | that value is just from the gear set, i think obtaining your base values is fairly easy, just strip naked and click off all buffs |
| 10:46.58 | Xinhuan | so you just add up everything |
| 10:47.13 | KivinSan | yeah, i'm trying to do this with clothes on and it's harder than it needs to be |
| 10:48.16 | Fisker- | why would you cast ice block after being damaged? |
| 10:48.20 | Xinhuan | i mainly use wowequip to view other people's gear (can keybind) these days, to see how much better/worse his gear is |
| 10:48.33 | Xinhuan | dunno, its like an arena reflex action Fisker- |
| 10:48.52 | KivinSan | thank god for winterclothes |
| 10:49.18 | buu | "02:47 < KivinSan> yeah, i'm trying to do this with clothes on and it's harder than it needs to be" |
| 10:49.22 | buu | That needs to get saved someplace. |
| 10:49.28 | KivinSan | XP |
| 10:49.39 | KivinSan | Let's all just get nekid |
| 10:50.36 | Ellipsis | ok! |
| 10:50.52 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r71e61c5249 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Teldrassil.lua: Fix shitty Teldrassil quest |
| 10:50.54 | tekcub | let me put on some pants first |
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| 10:51.08 | Deviad | Hello |
| 10:51.10 | thul | Fisker-: he wants to avoid the backstab crit that comes :-P |
| 10:51.20 | Deviad | Happy New Year |
| 10:51.43 | Deviad | Can anyone pls tell me which mod can replace arena unit frames and natur enemy castbar? |
| 10:51.53 | Deviad | I need some bars for the cool downs |
| 10:51.57 | Deviad | like the sheep for example |
| 10:52.10 | Deviad | or how much of a cloak of shadow is left on someone |
| 10:52.22 | Deviad | I'm a mage |
| 10:53.15 | thul | necb? :-P |
| 10:53.17 | KivinSan | jesus christ... 102% avoidance is impossible even while being very generous with heroic gear |
| 10:53.25 | Deviad | necb? |
| 10:53.36 | Ellipsis | l2raid KivinSan? :P |
| 10:53.45 | KivinSan | Ellipsis: that's what i'm trying to do... gear up for raiding |
| 10:53.55 | KivinSan | nice to know that i can't get past 70% avoidance with heroic gear |
| 10:54.11 | Xinhuan | nah its possible, there's 2 prot pallies in my guild |
| 10:54.20 | KivinSan | names? |
| 10:54.29 | Xinhuan | Meytriks, Avelynn |
| 10:54.32 | KivinSan | thanks |
| 10:54.43 | Xinhuan | US Blackrock |
| 10:54.47 | KivinSan | cheers |
| 10:54.54 | KivinSan | GAAH |
| 10:54.58 | Xinhuan | one does not raid (the first one), just does kara and stuff |
| 10:55.02 | KivinSan | Frackin armory not working... as usual |
| 10:55.09 | Xinhuan | the other has like 20k hp buffed up in hyjal |
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| 10:59.07 | KivinSan | do the metagem requirements work? |
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| 10:59.33 | KivinSan | evidenty not |
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| 11:00.16 | KivinSan | that's 77% avoidance in heroic gear and rare quality gems...hmm |
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| 11:03.11 | Zhinjio | KivinSan, my main is prot pally with almost 105% avoidance with holy shield up. |
| 11:03.27 | Zhinjio | don't forget the extra 30% |
| 11:04.21 | KivinSan | that's with the 30% |
| 11:04.28 | KivinSan | which is what boggles me |
| 11:04.32 | Zhinjio | Zhinjio, US Hellscream |
| 11:04.41 | Zhinjio | mostly Kara gear with a couple badge items |
| 11:04.57 | KivinSan | ehh doesn't really help me, then. i need to get kara geared without ever being in kara |
| 11:05.04 | Zhinjio | oh. nm then |
| 11:05.05 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:05.08 | KivinSan | :) |
| 11:05.35 | Fisker- | http://i8.tinypic.com/6tuxb85.jpg :D |
| 11:05.50 | Varazir[NA] | none going to fix arinventory ? |
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| 11:06.01 | Varazir[NA] | ark |
| 11:07.18 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rf71105bef5 10./TourGuide_Alliance/01_12_Teldrassil.lua: New Teldy quests I never knew existed... |
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| 11:11.05 | Fisker- | is there someway you can dump your mysql database from the CLI in linux? |
| 11:12.29 | haste | mysqldump? |
| 11:13.12 | Fisker- | lolwut |
| 11:13.23 | Fisker- | why don't i come up with that? :( |
| 11:13.39 | haste | you need to hammer <Tab> more |
| 11:15.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:15.42 | haste | it's helpful, as long as you aren't using git |
| 11:15.42 | Fisker- | i like you |
| 11:15.45 | Fisker- | and want to cuddle with you |
| 11:16.15 | [SW]Dodge | anyone knows what is the hit cap for feral druids (kitty)? |
| 11:16.28 | haste | !c eu grim batol kouya |
| 11:16.29 | Ellipsis | wtf Fisker- you said I was your cuddle buddy :( |
| 11:16.30 | ThraeBot | haste: Kouya, Level 67 Undead Warlock (45/13/0). 7748 HP; 6470 Mana; 121 mana regen; 28 spell crit; 26 spell hit; 390 +spell dmg/heal; 43 shadow dmg (433); 4.11% dodge; 17 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 624 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28dob3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tlxer ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:21:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:16.32 | haste | Fisker-: ^ related |
| 11:16.39 | haste | aaw, it doesn't display guild :( |
| 11:16.47 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 11:17.01 | haste | guild is <Cuddle Vendor> :3 |
| 11:17.09 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 11:17.15 | Fisker- | i'm getting myself a new webservar |
| 11:17.24 | haste | lighty ! |
| 11:17.39 | haste | http://hastey.pastey.net/79834 << regarding git |
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| 11:25.12 | Fisker- | :O |
| 11:25.26 | Fisker- | is that just git-specific or what? |
| 11:25.29 | Fisker- | i got no git's :( |
| 11:28.31 | haste | yep |
| 11:29.39 | thul | !c eu ravencrest idavoll |
| 11:29.41 | ThraeBot | thul: Idavoll, Level 43 Undead Warrior (0/34/0). 1991 HP; 2581 Armour; 521 AP; 72.800 Melee DPS; 13.28% melee crit; 5.63% dodge; 4.80% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 368 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hog4m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dy69l ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:34:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:30.09 | Zhinjio | fuck I hate garbage day |
| 11:30.10 | Fisker- | you're trying to be from ravencrest? :I |
| 11:30.21 | thul | hmm? :-P |
| 11:32.14 | Fisker- | :(? |
| 11:32.17 | Fisker- | i'm from ravencrest |
| 11:32.24 | Fisker- | !c eu ravencrest Fiskerdin |
| 11:32.26 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Fiskerdin, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 8177 HP; 10233 Mana; 215 mana regen; 134 mp5; 14412 Armour; 72.500 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 152 spell crit; 705 +spell dmg; 1747 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 62 resilience;[[ TBR: 880 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fxwx5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36pvlx ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:37:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:32.39 | thul | !c eu ravencrest krotter |
| 11:32.42 | ThraeBot | thul: Krotter, Level 63 Tauren Shaman (0/0/0). 5071 HP; 3996 Mana; 98 mana regen; 6 mp5; 724 AP; 108.400 Melee DPS; 10.76% melee crit; 12 melee hit; 82 +spell dmg/heal; 7.70% dodge; 4.68% block;[[ TBR: 721 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26j3bk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ysqgj ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:37:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:33.03 | haste | Fisker-: oh really? |
| 11:33.08 | haste | !c eu ravencrest Otravi |
| 11:33.10 | ThraeBot | haste: Otravi, Level 41 Human Priest (0/0/32). 1692 HP; 3190 Mana; 105 mana regen; 3 mp5; 35 spell crit; 11 spell hit; 36 +spell dmg/heal; 4.84% dodge;[[ TBR: 358 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv5twr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qfk4q ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:37:48 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:33.10 | thul | w00t, 0/0/0 talents? :-P have i forgot to build a new tree? :-P |
| 11:33.45 | [SW]Dodge | !c eu sen'jin netrox |
| 11:33.47 | ThraeBot | [SW]Dodge: Netrox, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 10454 HP; 6650 Mana; 114 mana regen; 6874 Armour; 750 AP; 131.300 Melee DPS; 16.15% melee crit; 26 melee hit; 10 +spell dmg; 29 +heal; 143 defense; 31.94% dodge; 82 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 709 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22jqcw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cybke ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:38:25 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:34.30 | thul | hahaha, I have no talents:P |
| 11:34.35 | thul | no wonder. |
| 11:34.41 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 11:34.45 | Fisker- | that's because you're donald |
| 11:34.50 | Fisker- | from dark legacy |
| 11:35.23 | Worf | nice bot ... i can feel the armory suffering under the load :) |
| 11:35.46 | exor674 | !c us bronzebeard crindappy |
| 11:35.48 | ThraeBot | exor674: Crindappy, Level 70 Gnome Warlock: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuhxrz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pqnwh ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:40:26 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:35.54 | exor674 | o.O |
| 11:36.00 | thul | seriously, I have been levling from 60-63 with no talents :-( |
| 11:36.05 | thul | that is just.. slack:P |
| 11:36.09 | haste | failure |
| 11:36.39 | haste | Fisker-: get some of your ally friends on RC to send me gold! I'm poor :( |
| 11:36.52 | Fisker- | !c eu earthern ring kegein |
| 11:36.52 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: kegein is not the character you are looking for! |
| 11:37.02 | Fisker- | YES IT IS |
| 11:37.09 | Worf | rotfl |
| 11:37.10 | Fisker- | !c eu earthen ring kegein |
| 11:37.13 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Kegein, Level 70 Dwarf Warrior (17/44/0). 10464 HP; 9129 Armour; 1804 AP; 232.000 Melee DPS; 28.27% melee crit; 161 melee hit; 6.25% dodge; 5.00% block; 165 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1432 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2for7z ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3byhch ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 06:41:51 2007 EST ]] |
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| 11:38.16 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:38.23 | Fisker- | shouldn't have went afk in that arena |
| 11:38.30 | Fisker- | almost lost the match because i thought we would just win |
| 11:38.50 | Fisker- | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/104.html btw |
| 11:38.58 | RaydenUni | man |
| 11:39.00 | Fisker- | what char you has on ravencrest haste? |
| 11:39.10 | RaydenUni | my guild has downed Curator twice, but we wiped on Shade 3 times |
| 11:40.04 | haste | Fisker-: only that priest, started it a couple of days ago :p |
| 11:40.27 | Fisker- | oh |
| 11:41.50 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 11:42.12 | thul | shade is actually an encounter where you have to think :-P |
| 11:42.23 | Zhinjio | so... a question |
| 11:42.25 | RaydenUni | we only really got to the elmentals once |
| 11:42.43 | RaydenUni | i have a hard time seeing where blizzard is |
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| 11:43.00 | Ozguli` | RaydenUni curator is all about dps |
| 11:43.09 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 11:43.14 | RaydenUni | i know curator is a gear check |
| 11:43.26 | RaydenUni | i think we got shade to 35% |
| 11:43.27 | Zhinjio | I see GetLootSlotInfo, which returns name, iconpath, quantity and rarity ... GetLootSlotLink which returns the ItemLink for the loot item. what I do NOT see is something that returns an itemid. or... hmm. |
| 11:43.35 | Zhinjio | I guess thats part of the ItemLink, innit |
| 11:43.36 | RaydenUni | our best run we had elementals and the polymorph at the same time |
| 11:43.43 | RaydenUni | so it ended there |
| 11:44.04 | Fisker- | we just kill them |
| 11:44.05 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:44.36 | haste | Zhinjio: the itemid is a part of the itemlink |
| 11:44.40 | Zhinjio | right. ok. |
| 11:44.55 | Zhinjio | so I guess if I pass the ItemLink data to clients, thats pretty much all they need |
| 11:45.43 | Zhinjio | quantity will always be 1. um.... rarity can be inferred from the coloring |
| 11:45.47 | Zhinjio | yeah, that'll cover it |
| 11:46.51 | Zhinjio | handling a loot event is more complex than I thought it would be. |
| 11:46.53 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: item link / id and quantity |
| 11:47.05 | Orionshock | the rest can be infered from the tooltip |
| 11:47.36 | Zhinjio | I can't think of an example of something where quantity will be needed. |
| 11:47.50 | Zhinjio | is there a circumstance where more than one of an item drop off a boss? |
| 11:47.51 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 11:48.04 | Zhinjio | I guess I've seen tier 4 tokens drop in quantity |
| 11:48.11 | Zhinjio | but... they occupy two loot slots. |
| 11:48.11 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 11:48.12 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r57708 10AtlasLoot/ (DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua TableRegister/loottables.en.lua): |
| 11:48.12 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:48.12 | CIA-8 | - Browser update |
| 11:48.20 | Orionshock | no, items that do not stack will show up as separate objects, |
| 11:48.24 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r57709 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 11:48.24 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 11:48.24 | CIA-8 | - loot update |
| 11:48.27 | Orionshock | as you said, bages / tokens |
| 11:48.31 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 11:48.32 | Arrowmaster | badges and nethers drop with a quantity |
| 11:48.34 | Orionshock | certain mats |
| 11:48.57 | Zhinjio | hmm. when they are master loot distributed... do they get distributed in quantity or one at a time? |
| 11:49.02 | Zhinjio | say, nethers for example |
| 11:49.04 | Arrowmaster | quantity |
| 11:49.07 | Zhinjio | damn |
| 11:49.09 | nevcairiel | you cant split a stack |
| 11:49.11 | Orionshock | what ever drops |
| 11:49.13 | Arrowmaster | nethers from vashj/kael cant be split |
| 11:49.14 | nevcairiel | when looting |
| 11:49.19 | Zhinjio | thats pretty lame, actually |
| 11:49.19 | Arrowmaster | one person gets 2 |
| 11:49.25 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 11:49.34 | Zhinjio | well... so I will pass quantity then. thats fine |
| 11:49.50 | Zhinjio | badges don't get voted on, so I'll ignore those |
| 11:49.50 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: passing for what reason? |
| 11:50.18 | Zhinjio | when the master looter loots an item, it will pass the list of items to the other people in the raid running the client |
| 11:50.31 | Zhinjio | so they'll see the list of stuff that will be voted on |
| 11:50.37 | Zhinjio | er, when he loots a boss, rather |
| 11:50.52 | Orionshock | full item id and quantity of more than 1 |
| 11:51.20 | Zhinjio | that brings up another question |
| 11:51.26 | Orionshock | unless you intend on limiting the type of items that can be looked at |
| 11:51.43 | Orionshock | if you don't pass the full id then the suffix items don't get shown |
| 11:52.37 | Zhinjio | when you click on a loot link in a chat frame, it brings up a tooltip frame for the item that is persistent. what if I want to display the items tooltip from just a hover over a button? I assume I can call some method to display an item's default tooltip, no? |
| 11:53.06 | Zhinjio | some sort of item tooltip method, I'd guess? |
| 11:53.17 | Orionshock | same method |
| 11:53.41 | Orionshock | set an OnEnter script that get's called that set's the tooltip to a known stationary anchor |
| 11:53.56 | Orionshock | i do it with AceGUI |
| 11:55.52 | Zhinjio | aha, there it is GameTooltip:SetHyperlink... I think |
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| 11:56.04 | Orionshock | ... vague question |
| 11:56.09 | Orionshock | yes that's what you'd use |
| 11:59.23 | Zhinjio | so the general lifespan of the tooltip in your onenter code would be a setowner call, a sethyperlink call, and then in your onleave, you can do something like a fadeout call? |
| 11:59.26 | Zhinjio | sound right? |
| 11:59.54 | Orionshock | ya |
| 11:59.58 | Zhinjio | excellent. |
| 12:00.09 | Zhinjio | one of these days I'll get it without having to look it up every time. |
| 12:04.18 | Zhinjio | Aside from Badges of Justice, are there other "badge" type items in later dungeons that I should not include? (since everyone gets to loot them off the corpse) |
| 12:04.37 | Zhinjio | I've only done through Gruul's |
| 12:04.41 | Zhinjio | haven't seen later stuff |
| 12:05.23 | Orionshock | well, you've answered that question already |
| 12:05.58 | Orionshock | either do everything lootable on the mob, or white list / blacklist things |
| 12:06.00 | Fisker- | there's tier 4, 5 and 6 tokens |
| 12:06.32 | Zhinjio | those will be handled as loot items, since only one person gets them |
| 12:06.33 | Arrowmaster | things that everybody gets to loot? um well badges and some quest items |
| 12:06.36 | Zhinjio | I mean, other things that everyone gets. |
| 12:06.38 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 12:06.39 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 12:06.42 | Zhinjio | shit. quest items |
| 12:07.04 | Arrowmaster | i would have figured the masterloot system wouldnt let you try to masterloot items like that thought |
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| 12:07.08 | Orionshock | *either do everything loot able on the mob, or white list / blacklist things |
| 12:07.10 | Zhinjio | those suck especially since the ML may not see them |
| 12:07.41 | Orionshock | i say white list things by line 2 of a tooltip |
| 12:08.06 | Orionshock | then black list things from there like badges |
| 12:08.32 | Arrowmaster | the default masterloot wont show i ml menu for quest items and badges i thought, figure how what it does |
| 12:08.52 | Orionshock | true |
| 12:09.00 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: take a look at xloot_masterlooter |
| 12:09.14 | Zhinjio | it does for recipes though, even though not everyone is a valid candidate for the item. Thats ok though |
| 12:09.27 | Zhinjio | will do |
| 12:09.34 | thul | ding:p |
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| 12:13.29 | Orionshock | GetMasterLootCandidate |
| 12:13.40 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: i think that's what you might need to look at |
| 12:13.52 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hxZxVfzV0sAuqox <- leveling build at 63? |
| 12:14.43 | Orionshock | if anyone is a canidate then it /should/ be a valid item to "vote" on as you put it |
| 12:15.32 | Zhinjio | I was just looking at that. |
| 12:15.44 | Zhinjio | unfortunately, it doesn't take the item into account, just the index of the player in the raid |
| 12:15.54 | Zhinjio | to check if they are a valid target for the looted item |
| 12:16.10 | Zhinjio | so people that ... whatever, left the raid, DCd, or left the instance or something would ail |
| 12:16.13 | Zhinjio | fail |
| 12:16.15 | Orionshock | and you cannot ML quest items |
| 12:16.28 | Orionshock | or badges |
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| 12:16.57 | Zhinjio | yeah, there's gotta be a way to check that somehow. still looking through that code. |
| 12:17.47 | Orionshock | meh, btw Zhinjio i split up guildcraft into a 2nd-ish addon for those that just want to look at stuff, should be functional |
| 12:17.49 | Orionshock | :D |
| 12:19.59 | Zhinjio | I'll try to take a look at it a bit later. |
| 12:20.19 | Zhinjio | Getting my guild to use it will be a bitch, I think. |
| 12:21.03 | Zhinjio | I don't want to lose my train of thought though ... heh. |
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| 12:23.49 | Zhinjio | xloot doesn't appear to do any checking on the individual items, but it hooks the ML LOOT event |
| 12:24.03 | Zhinjio | OPEN_MASTER_LOOT_LIST |
| 12:24.07 | Zhinjio | if I'm reading this right |
| 12:24.14 | Zhinjio | unfortunately, that doesn't help me. |
| 12:24.36 | Zhinjio | so some stuff is probably going to get through that shouldn't ... I'll just need to handle it as they come and update the code to exclude items. |
| 12:24.39 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
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| 12:28.32 | haste | it's possibly the worst day to level in BB today |
| 12:28.57 | nevcairiel | on a pvp server? :P |
| 12:29.25 | syeren | SendChatMessage("PUMMEL / LANDED ON "..target.." 's "..spell,"PARTY"); |
| 12:29.26 | nevcairiel | are the guards asleep yet? |
| 12:29.31 | syeren | Can I send it to more than one channel at a time? |
| 12:29.36 | syeren | And if so, how please :D |
| 12:29.46 | nevcairiel | no you can |
| 12:29.47 | nevcairiel | t |
| 12:29.50 | haste | nevcairiel: yep, yep |
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| 12:32.43 | Fisker- | very sneaky nevcairiel |
| 12:35.07 | Orionshock | syeren: you cannot with the same command, so instead add in a nother call to another channel |
| 12:35.37 | syeren | Okay, thank you Orionshock :) |
| 12:36.29 | Orionshock | if your doing it to alot of channel's you might want to concatonate the string first and just pass the variable instead |
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| 12:40.52 | Zhinjio | do we still have a lua parser in here or is it broken still? |
| 12:41.05 | Zhinjio | lua> print("1") |
| 12:41.08 | Zhinjio | bah |
| 12:44.00 | nevcairiel | you can PM lua_bot |
| 12:44.32 | Zhinjio | excellent |
| 12:44.33 | Zhinjio | thanks |
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| 12:54.42 | Xinhuan | not sure if you read that! |
| 12:54.42 | Zhinjio | I did./ |
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| 12:54.43 | sag_ich_nicht | lol splits. |
| 12:55.17 | nevcairiel | you can do lua> strsplit(...) too and it'll return all args |
| 12:55.17 | evl-blend | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20071231.jpg |
| 12:55.17 | Zhinjio | well, that sucks. |
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| 12:55.17 | Fisker- | hope i reach 8kg here :O |
| 12:55.17 | Zhinjio | what I want is the first 3 or so well defined (delimited strings, and then "whatever's leftover" |
| 12:55.18 | Zhinjio | it doesn't do that. |
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| 12:55.18 | Zhinjio | god, its even worse than that |
| 12:55.18 | Zhinjio | strsplit in game doesn't behave like it does here. |
| 12:56.00 | Zhinjio | "1|2|3" gets split as "1", "2", "3" here... and in game: "1", "", "2", "", "3" |
| 12:56.00 | Zhinjio | thats disgusting. |
| 12:56.49 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 12:57.06 | Zhinjio | although that might be /dump modifying it? Hrm. |
| 12:57.09 | Zhinjio | no. |
| 12:57.12 | Zhinjio | thats just nasty |
| 12:57.46 | Fisker- | imma chargin my servar |
| 12:57.57 | Nargiddley | that'll be | getting translated to || somewhere Zhinjio |
| 12:58.08 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: In game doesn't really make sense |
| 12:58.16 | Nargiddley | chatbox does it afaik |
| 12:58.21 | Zhinjio | oh, yeah. |
| 12:58.24 | nevcairiel | (13:58:10) (nevcairiel) lua> string.match("1|2|3|4|5|6", "(%d)|(%d)|(%d)|(.*)") |
| 12:58.24 | nevcairiel | (13:58:11) (lua_bot) nevcairiel: 1, 2, 3, 4|5|6, |
| 12:58.25 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 12:59.18 | Zhinjio | thanks nevcariel. that'll work perfectly |
| 13:00.13 | Fisker- | you can't stop me |
| 13:00.31 | Zhinjio | perfect. |
| 13:00.34 | thul | Fisker-: why? :-P |
| 13:00.44 | nevcairiel | you might want (%d+) |
| 13:00.51 | nevcairiel | if the digits can be > 9 |
| 13:00.59 | Zhinjio | my dilemma was because I'm using | as my delimiter in comm message I send, and ItemLink contains them. |
| 13:01.17 | Zhinjio | well, it'll be %s ultimately, I think |
| 13:01.23 | Zhinjio | tests... |
| 13:01.34 | nevcairiel | %s is space characters, dont think thats what you want =P |
| 13:02.17 | nevcairiel | ([^|]*) is probably what you need |
| 13:02.18 | Zhinjio | oh. thought it was sprintf formatting. |
| 13:02.23 | Zhinjio | nm |
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| 13:09.25 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
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| 13:13.41 | haste | Fisker-: the economy on RC is wack |
| 13:14.11 | Fisker- | yes |
| 13:14.13 | Fisker- | i like it |
| 13:14.20 | Fisker- | exploiting AH Prices = win |
| 13:14.33 | Fisker- | not so win when you exploited it so much and you have to buy mats for enchants :( |
| 13:14.36 | haste | everything is shit expensive, regardless of how hard it is ot farm :p |
| 13:14.41 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:14.58 | Fisker- | you're horde or alliance? |
| 13:15.08 | haste | alliance now |
| 13:15.11 | Fisker- | ok |
| 13:15.20 | Fisker- | what's large prismatic shards up for? |
| 13:15.33 | haste | no idea, can check tho' :p |
| 13:16.57 | haste | Fisker-: 33 - 44g |
| 13:17.13 | Zhinjio | local foo, bar = string.match( "cmdksc|fn1n3n|4en3j2", "([^|]*)|(.*)" ) <-- does exactly what I need |
| 13:17.16 | Zhinjio | thanks nev |
| 13:18.03 | Fisker- | hmm |
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| 13:19.28 | Xinhuan | maybe you should be using string.gmatch |
| 13:19.33 | Xinhuan | to return an iterator |
| 13:21.15 | Zhinjio | nah, discrete variables is perfect. |
| 13:21.25 | Zhinjio | the number of variables is small and known. |
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| 13:23.55 | Xinhuan | you won't match the last item in the string with that |
| 13:24.13 | Xinhuan | well maybe it will heh |
| 13:24.35 | nevcairiel | he only wanted to split of the first part, if i understood him right |
| 13:24.40 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 13:24.54 | Zhinjio | because the last part will be an ItemLink, which contains "|" characters |
| 13:25.01 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 13:25.15 | Zhinjio | tada... everything is clear. |
| 13:25.26 | Xinhuan | i thought you wanted a loop that extracted out each part of the stuff delimited by | |
| 13:25.33 | Xinhuan | that would simply be |
| 13:25.36 | Xinhuan | for s, v in string.gmatch("cmdksc|fn1n3n|4en3j2", "([^|]+)") do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(s) end |
| 13:26.03 | Xinhuan | can take out the "v" variable, it'll be nil everytime anyway |
| 13:26.19 | nevcairiel | dont you have to do "([^|]+)|" ? |
| 13:26.25 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:26.31 | Xinhuan | because that wouldn't match the last bit |
| 13:26.37 | Xinhuan | the last item that is |
| 13:26.49 | nevcairiel | but will it skip the | char after first match? |
| 13:26.57 | Xinhuan | the [^|] part is enough not to include the | |
| 13:27.04 | Xinhuan | so it will print 3 items |
| 13:27.50 | Zhinjio | I had to do ([^|]*)| in order to have it exclude the | in the final variable |
| 13:28.14 | Xinhuan | that's because you used * instead of + |
| 13:28.17 | nevcairiel | ya its different in your case anyway |
| 13:28.27 | Xinhuan | the * captures 0 or more |
| 13:28.31 | Xinhuan | + captures 1 or more |
| 13:31.07 | Zhinjio | lua> local foo, bar, blort = string.match( "cm|dksc|fn1n3n|4en3j2", "([^|]hmm.+)|(.*)" ); print("f=" .. foo .. ", b=" .. bar .. ", bl=" .. blort ) |
| 13:31.10 | Zhinjio | woops |
| 13:31.11 | Zhinjio | sorry |
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| 13:32.08 | Xinhuan | you won't match anything there |
| 13:32.17 | Xinhuan | since it's trying to match "hmm" in there |
| 13:32.43 | Zhinjio | that was me typing hmmm |
| 13:32.50 | Zhinjio | after hitting up arrow |
| 13:32.55 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 13:32.56 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 13:34.11 | Zhinjio | so if I want just a single instance ... not "one or more" ... oh, nm. |
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| 13:34.32 | Zhinjio | ok, thats perfect. |
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| 13:36.08 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA <- that was kind of nice |
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| 13:43.25 | Zhinjio | thul: weird stuff. I was thinking he was like... 15 or something, but he's 25. |
| 13:43.27 | Zhinjio | freaky |
| 13:45.49 | Zhinjio | so ... can anyone think of an easy way to simulate LOOT_OPENED events so I can test this stuff easily? |
| 13:46.02 | Zhinjio | going out and fighting stuff is going to make me cry inside. |
| 13:46.04 | Zhinjio | to test |
| 13:46.05 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: call the event handler |
| 13:46.05 | Xinhuan | go AV |
| 13:46.16 | Xinhuan | make the epics you are looting "armor scraps" |
| 13:46.19 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: or go kill really low stuff |
| 13:46.22 | Xinhuan | and various commander badges |
| 13:46.35 | Xinhuan | or just go stockades |
| 13:46.37 | Xinhuan | and kill a few stuff |
| 13:46.41 | Xinhuan | for wool and shit |
| 13:46.55 | Zhinjio | well, I need it to exceed loot threshold as well. hmm. |
| 13:47.07 | Zhinjio | Stockades runs should do it |
| 13:47.25 | exor674 | deadmines probably |
| 13:47.29 | Zhinjio | that place drops greens like crazy |
| 13:47.34 | exor674 | IIRC stockades doesn't really have loot |
| 13:47.36 | haste | Zhinjio: murlocs drop damn much loot at once :p |
| 13:48.16 | haste | ah, threshold also :p |
| 13:48.26 | Deviad | Can anyone tell me if there are some bars for tracking polymorph and counter spell cool downs? |
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| 13:50.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Deviad well there is cooldowntimers2 |
| 13:50.16 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 13:50.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i wouldn't really recommend using it. |
| 13:50.33 | Deviad | wait |
| 13:50.36 | Deviad | I don't mean cool downs |
| 13:50.45 | Deviad | I mean when you cast a polymorph |
| 13:50.48 | Deviad | how much time is left |
| 13:50.57 | Deviad | before it fades out |
| 13:51.24 | Deviad | the same for counter spell |
| 13:51.28 | Xinhuan | NECB is the only mod that does this with any accuracy |
| 13:51.36 | sanari | chronometer or dotimer |
| 13:51.36 | Xinhuan | because it is nearly impossible to track diminishing returns |
| 13:51.53 | Xinhuan | as the combat log information is incomplete |
| 13:52.10 | Xinhuan | hence if someone else overwrites your debuff with the same debuff, the remaining time will drop |
| 13:52.13 | Xinhuan | but you won't know about it |
| 13:52.18 | Xinhuan | as the API doesn't allow it |
| 13:52.31 | sanari | I never liked necb, dotimer has been most accurate for all classes for me over the past couple years |
| 13:52.49 | Xinhuan | dotimer is only accurate if and only if you're soloing |
| 13:52.58 | Xinhuan | because diminisihing returns is very tricky |
| 13:53.08 | Xinhuan | many spells from different classes contribute to the same DR |
| 13:53.14 | sanari | no, its good for raiding as well |
| 13:53.21 | Xinhuan | so even if your spell is supposed to last X seconds, it may not really last that long |
| 13:53.41 | Xinhuan | yeah its only accurate with syncing, its gets complicated |
| 13:54.06 | Deviad | ok |
| 13:54.09 | Deviad | I'll install necb |
| 13:54.19 | Deviad | is master arena as good as arena unit frames? |
| 13:54.24 | Xinhuan | NECB is considered very bloated and too much features by most people though |
| 13:54.27 | Xinhuan | it tries to do too much |
| 13:54.42 | sanari | yeah, that's my complaint |
| 13:55.11 | Xinhuan | you may want to read this |
| 13:55.12 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10582.0 |
| 13:55.22 | Xinhuan | where i explained why this type of mod is so difficult to write |
| 13:56.07 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r57710 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: LittleWigs: add a new target for Freywinn. |
| 13:56.29 | sanari | I've played long enough to get a feel for diminishing returns etc, and recast in a timely manner... dotimer etc are just there to reaffirm my timing |
| 13:56.33 | Deviad | is master arena as good as arena unit frames? |
| 13:56.49 | Xinhuan | dunno, never heard of "master arena" |
| 13:57.00 | sanari | arena master maybe |
| 13:57.05 | Deviad | yes |
| 13:57.06 | Deviad | that one |
| 13:57.14 | Xinhuan | arenamaster is no longer being maintained by the author |
| 13:57.20 | Xinhuan | i would suggest Proximo |
| 13:57.27 | Xinhuan | as the replacement |
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| 13:57.52 | Xinhuan | author has just added talent stuff to it to auto inspect you enemies's talents |
| 13:57.54 | Zhinjio | does a disabled button still respond to OnEnter/OnLeave events? |
| 13:57.56 | Xinhuan | much like cowtip |
| 13:58.01 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: no |
| 13:58.12 | Zhinjio | crap.ok. |
| 13:58.12 | Xinhuan | a disabled button has :EnableMouse(false) |
| 13:58.45 | Xinhuan | and will not respond to a single mouse event, it will be as though the button isn't there, and the mouse click/event will fallthrough to the frame below it |
| 14:00.41 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57711 10WoWEquip/ (5 files): |
| 14:00.41 | CIA-8 | WoWEquip: |
| 14:00.41 | CIA-8 | - Update weapon chain changes in patch 2.3. |
| 14:00.41 | CIA-8 | - Add German localization for races. |
| 14:00.42 | CIA-8 | - Fix profile saving bug where an empty slot (usually the offhand) would not overwrite (and nil out) the equipped item in the same slot in the profile to be overwritten. |
| 14:00.43 | CIA-8 | - Version bump to 0.81. |
| 14:01.48 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: when did you start on wowequip? |
| 14:02.01 | *** join/#wowace sanari (n=root@32.162.176.125) |
| 14:02.06 | Xinhuan | -- 8 July 2007, by Xinhuan @ Blackrock US Alliance: Version 0.1 |
| 14:02.07 | Xinhuan | -- Creation of addon, basic frames, itembuttons and usage of ItemBonusLib. |
| 14:02.14 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 14:02.16 | Xinhuan | -- 14 July 2007, by Xinhuan @ Blackrock US Alliance: Version 0.2 |
| 14:02.16 | Kalroth | When is it done?! |
| 14:02.20 | Xinhuan | -- 16 July 2007, by Xinhuan @ Blackrock US Alliance: Version 0.3 |
| 14:02.33 | Xinhuan | the patch notes are all in wowequip.lua at the top |
| 14:02.35 | JoshBorke | just curious, i had wanted to do that addon for a while but couldn't be bothered |
| 14:02.57 | Xinhuan | you'll notice that between version 0.8 and 0.81 there is a huge timegap |
| 14:03.10 | Kalroth | Much slacking! |
| 14:03.13 | Xinhuan | that's where i manily focused on doing up _Routes and updating BankItems |
| 14:03.17 | Xinhuan | mainly* |
| 14:03.23 | Xinhuan | and also Postal |
| 14:03.49 | sanari | <3 postal :) |
| 14:03.54 | Xinhuan | well hey i have 2 addons on the front page of http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 14:04.14 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 14:04.42 | Kalroth | You've been sucking up to Bibi! |
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| 14:04.54 | Xinhuan | no heh no |
| 14:04.57 | Ellipsis | you know what your addons lack, Xinhuan? |
| 14:05.01 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: what's this you stuff? grum wrote routes first :-P |
| 14:05.18 | Xinhuan | it still counts ;d |
| 14:05.51 | Xinhuan | talents is going to be a pain in the ass to add |
| 14:05.59 | Xinhuan | i dont even know how to start the GUI for it |
| 14:06.21 | Xinhuan | in a sane way |
| 14:07.04 | Xinhuan | dropdowns doesn't quite work |
| 14:07.54 | Xinhuan | and talent changes in patches will break old profiles |
| 14:08.23 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: did i understand that right that the addon shows changes in stats that would happen if you qould wear the item ? and does it work for druid forms also? |
| 14:08.49 | Xinhuan | no, i have not considered forms |
| 14:09.46 | [SW]Dodge | mhm,that would be coool if it could be added sometimes :D |
| 14:10.36 | Varazir[NA] | someone told me there is a addon that if you klick on a player the plugin will send name class loc to chat anyone heard about that ? |
| 14:11.11 | Xinhuan | unlikely for now, i'm trying to think up way to store talent choices that don't break campatability |
| 14:12.54 | [SW]Dodge | Varazir[NA]: i know there is one, i was using it a long time ago. dont know the name sry |
| 14:13.23 | Varazir[NA] | ok |
| 14:13.40 | Xinhuan | does babblespell have translations for talent names? |
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| 14:14.20 | [SW]Dodge | Varazir[NA]: found it :) |
| 14:14.49 | [SW]Dodge | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7234/ |
| 14:15.00 | [SW]Dodge | dont know if it is still working^^ |
| 14:15.12 | [SW]Dodge | ok last update 12/13/2007 |
| 14:15.16 | [SW]Dodge | it should work^^ |
| 14:15.27 | Xinhuan | oh wow, it does |
| 14:15.32 | Xinhuan | every talent name is in it |
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| 14:16.03 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57712 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 14:16.03 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 14:16.04 | CIA-8 | - properly store and restore the players profile |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57713 10VisualHeal/Libs/: |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 14:17.17 | CIA-8 | - Add CallbackHandler-1.0 as an external since AceDB-3.0 does not (and it needs it). |
| 14:17.33 | Varazir[NA] | [SW]Dodge thanks :) |
| 14:17.37 | [SW]Dodge | np :D |
| 14:18.21 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, poke |
| 14:18.27 | nevcairiel | m? |
| 14:18.50 | Xinhuan | ace3 serializer will break on serializing 0/0 and 1/0 (NaNs basically) |
| 14:19.11 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: told you yesterday to jira it |
| 14:19.12 | *** part/#wowace sanari (n=root@32.162.176.125) |
| 14:19.15 | [Ammo] | Mikk will pick it up then |
| 14:19.17 | [Ammo] | it's his baby |
| 14:19.21 | Xinhuan | serializing it will work, since tostring() will work on it, but the reverse deserialize will error |
| 14:19.37 | Xinhuan | meh, if i make a jira account later |
| 14:19.41 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57714 10VisualHeal/embeds.xml: |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 14:19.41 | CIA-8 | - CallbackHandler-1.0 added to embeds.xml and LibHealComm-3.0 reinserted |
| 14:19.46 | nevcairiel | i can probably have a look too |
| 14:19.50 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel can put a ticket in for me! |
| 14:19.58 | Xinhuan | the code isn't complicated |
| 14:20.51 | nevcairiel | if you have a working fix, feel free to contribute .P |
| 14:21.11 | Lukian | anyway to have multiple cartographer waypoint arrows? |
| 14:21.41 | Xinhuan | i don't, because the fix is obvious enough to check for the strings "-1.#IND" or whatever strings and properly just assign back the appropriate values |
| 14:21.54 | Xinhuan | instead of trying tonumber() it |
| 14:22.08 | Xinhuan | Lukian, no |
| 14:22.15 | Xinhuan | _Waypoints itself doesn't allow multiple arrows |
| 14:22.45 | Lukian | darn |
| 14:22.55 | Lukian | because there's about 9 locations in this area i need to know |
| 14:22.55 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 14:23.38 | Lukian | (Kirin'Var) |
| 14:23.54 | exor674 | set them in order :P |
| 14:24.07 | Lukian | You want me to work out the order? :/ |
| 14:24.12 | Lukian | that's no fun |
| 14:25.07 | Xinhuan | why doesn't google return the website from wowhead when i search "wowhead talent planner" zzz |
| 14:25.11 | exor674 | add them all, move to end of queue till you find the closest |
| 14:25.18 | exor674 | go to that, remove it |
| 14:25.26 | exor674 | repeat last three steps? |
| 14:25.52 | Lukian | whoa |
| 14:26.01 | Lukian | would it be possible to use routes for questing? :D |
| 14:26.11 | Xinhuan | you can, but not practical |
| 14:26.14 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: try "wowhead talent calculator" ;D |
| 14:26.39 | Xinhuan | because if you are questing, it means you aren't level 70, you don't have a flying mount |
| 14:26.41 | exor674 | Xinhuan: didn't think you couldadd notes to rotes |
| 14:26.47 | Xinhuan | and the routes will just go through towns and mountains |
| 14:26.56 | Xinhuan | nah, you can't |
| 14:27.06 | Xinhuan | but you can manually add waypoints to _waypoints |
| 14:27.11 | Xinhuan | ctrl-click map or something |
| 14:27.50 | Lukian | could you create manual routes with _routes? |
| 14:27.50 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57715 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua: |
| 14:27.50 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceSerializer: |
| 14:27.50 | CIA-8 | - add support for NaN's |
| 14:28.01 | Xinhuan | at this point no |
| 14:28.01 | Lukian | (like, connect the dots) |
| 14:28.05 | kenlyric | ~irctime |
| 14:28.11 | kenlyric | bah |
| 14:28.14 | Xinhuan | there was a plan to add such a facility |
| 14:28.26 | Xinhuan | but it turned out to be too complex |
| 14:29.15 | kenlyric | bah, what's the irc time dealy? |
| 14:29.18 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57716 10VisualHeal/embeds.xml: |
| 14:29.18 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 14:29.19 | CIA-8 | - fix include method |
| 14:29.34 | kenlyric | the hello/goodbye rules. I'm drawing blank on it. |
| 14:30.16 | kenlyric | ~ugt |
| 14:30.17 | purl | it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 14:31.22 | Xinhuan | ~fail nevcairiel |
| 14:31.23 | purl | nevcairiel: Fail. |
| 14:31.27 | nevcairiel | wut= |
| 14:31.32 | Xinhuan | DeserialzeNumberHelper <-- spelling error detected |
| 14:31.49 | nevcairiel | at least i copy/pasted the error |
| 14:32.03 | nevcairiel | or did i |
| 14:32.15 | nevcairiel | hm i didnt :P |
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| 14:32.39 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57717 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua: |
| 14:32.39 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceSerializer: |
| 14:32.39 | CIA-8 | - fix typo |
| 14:32.53 | haste | lack of tab-completion? |
| 14:33.01 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57718 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 14:33.01 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 14:33.01 | CIA-8 | - set default profile to "Default" instead of character |
| 14:33.55 | kenlyric | hurrah! |
| 14:36.50 | Xinhuan | AceSerializer:Serialize(...) creates a new table every call, now i imagine this is going to be very bad for certain types of addons that will be serializing stuff every second in combat. :) |
| 14:37.50 | nevcairiel | yeah that tabel could be reused |
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| 14:38.01 | Xinhuan | indeed |
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| 14:43.50 | exor|zzz | how much overhead does creating a table take? |
| 14:44.14 | Xinhuan | 40 bytes of ram |
| 14:44.20 | Xinhuan | plus all of its contents |
| 14:44.22 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57719 10Ace3/AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua: |
| 14:44.22 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceSerializer: |
| 14:44.22 | CIA-8 | - reuse the serialize table |
| 14:44.50 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57720 10Ace3/tests/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 14:44.50 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 14:44.50 | CIA-8 | - fix AceDB test for new default profile |
| 14:48.16 | Zhinjio | how many people are actively working the Ace3 project? |
| 14:49.47 | [Ammo] | 8 or so |
| 14:50.21 | xyu | 8.3 |
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| 14:54.53 | Xinhuan | hmm babblespell doesn't have every talent after all |
| 14:55.02 | Xinhuan | this is annoying |
| 14:55.04 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Beta * r57721 10Ace3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:55.04 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - |
| 14:55.04 | CIA-8 | - revert AceDB profile change because its easier for the developer to set a shared profile as default rathern then the character profile |
| 14:55.04 | CIA-8 | - rename a var in AceSerializer for clarity |
| 14:59.46 | Fisker- | oh gosh |
| 14:59.48 | Fisker- | i has money |
| 15:01.05 | haste | send me some :( |
| 15:02.43 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.33 | Lyfe | so, with Ace3, is this deemed under heavy development still, or are people really starting to use it in mods? (news to me that ace3 exists, and I'm still reading up on it). |
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| 15:05.05 | cladhaire | Lyfe: its used in a bunch of mods |
| 15:05.18 | cladhaire | the major development push is over |
| 15:05.32 | kenlyric | it no longer says alpha |
| 15:05.37 | MoonWolf | ace3 will slowly creep into mods is the plan |
| 15:05.43 | cladhaire | its Beta now, correct |
| 15:06.03 | MoonWolf | aye |
| 15:06.32 | Lyfe | interesting. |
| 15:06.35 | MoonWolf | at some point, say like 6 months in the future you will realize that you don't have an ace2 mod. |
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| 15:07.56 | Lyfe | well, from what i'm reading, it seems that there's a bit of a different design philosphy here, and it certainly doesn't sound like the ace2 (rock?) developers agreed with it, so i'm guessing ace2 isn't exactly headed out the door. |
| 15:08.01 | kneeki | Hey ya'll |
| 15:08.44 | kenlyric | Lyfe: wtf are you reading? |
| 15:08.52 | Lyfe | guess it's old stuff on the wiki. |
| 15:09.02 | Lyfe | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Differences_in_Philosophy_between_Ace3_and_Rock |
| 15:09.02 | [Ammo] | it's not old stuff on the wiki |
| 15:09.10 | kenlyric | ace2 -> ace3. rock isn't ace2 |
| 15:09.43 | nevcairiel | rock is basicly a new Ace2 |
| 15:09.50 | nevcairiel | Ace3 is a new design and new philosophy |
| 15:09.52 | Lyfe | mm, k.. then it's just stuff that people like me who haven't been paying attention for a few months haven't picked up on yet. :P |
| 15:10.08 | MoonWolf | ace3 is different |
| 15:10.12 | MoonWolf | you won't notice it much |
| 15:11.22 | kenlyric | will it fill my screen with the OPTIONS SCREEN OF DEAATH!?!?!?!?!!!111 |
| 15:11.57 | Fisker- | i liked options screen of death |
| 15:12.02 | Fisker- | just a shame you couldn't toggle |
| 15:12.07 | Fisker- | between that an dewdrop |
| 15:17.39 | Pkekyo| | tacos for breakfeast = win ^^ |
| 15:21.52 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57722 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-enUS.lua): |
| 15:21.53 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 15:21.53 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 15:21.53 | CIA-8 | Feature: Localization done. Now I need translators |
| 15:21.53 | CIA-8 | Feature: Eye of the Storm result prediction improved |
| 15:21.53 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can now hide Honor marks recap in Fubar text |
| 15:21.55 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can customize text buttons and messages in WSG (/abh gui) |
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| 15:40.45 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 15:40.53 | Fisker- | just collected 700 gold from AH |
| 15:41.52 | Pkekyo| | GEIF |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 15:44.07 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 15:44.08 | purl | hmm... time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.12.31 15:44:08 GMT |
| 15:44.20 | Pkekyo| | fucksake |
| 15:44.25 | Pkekyo| | the days keep eluding me |
| 15:44.29 | Pkekyo| | haven't seen the sun for a week |
| 15:48.02 | Fisker- | i love n00bs :( |
| 15:48.21 | Fisker- | Someone is asking me what program you can use to make pictures with hotspots |
| 15:48.36 | Fisker- | And i say that is the page using coordinates to provide tooltips for hotspots |
| 15:48.40 | Fisker- | and he's like "huh"? |
| 15:48.58 | Fisker- | Then he asks how he can get a program to do it for wikipedia |
| 15:49.01 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:49.15 | Pkekyo| | hotspots? |
| 15:49.32 | Fisker- | yeah usually circles or boxes in a picture |
| 15:49.40 | Fisker- | when you put your mouse over them they'll have an explanation |
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| 15:49.43 | Fisker- | á la instructables.com |
| 15:50.37 | Ellipsis | yay, second guild hacking in 2 weeks :/ |
| 15:50.49 | Fisker- | owned |
| 15:51.18 | xyu | a lot of those going aorund lately. i dont' understand it. |
| 15:51.40 | Fisker- | there were 2 guildies who got hacked right after season 3 arrived |
| 15:51.48 | Fisker- | took them like 2 weeks to get their account back |
| 15:51.58 | Fisker- | "Omg how slow is blizzard lolol" |
| 15:52.06 | Fisker- | http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-find-your-lost-cell-or-cordless-phone/ <-liek that |
| 15:52.09 | Fisker- | the big box in teh middle |
| 15:52.11 | xyu | they're lucky they even get them back. |
| 15:52.27 | xyu | many other games did nothing |
| 15:52.29 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: our gbank and the first char still haven't been restored |
| 15:52.33 | xyu | "sorry bout your luck, lrn2 download bro" |
| 15:52.41 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 15:52.51 | Fisker- | yeah xyu |
| 15:52.55 | Fisker- | but people don't get that |
| 15:54.01 | xyu | i bet a lot of them are from people who have to share their computer. |
| 15:54.16 | xyu | little brothers download stupid stuff sometimes. |
| 15:54.26 | xyu | or even worse, mothers and fathers |
| 15:54.27 | Ellipsis | meh, still no excuse |
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| 15:54.45 | Ellipsis | if you know irresponsible people are using your system, l2antivirus |
| 15:54.50 | xyu | yeah, aren't keyloggers caught pretty easily? |
| 15:55.21 | thul | :-( |
| 15:55.34 | thul | :-( |
| 15:55.44 | Fisker- | the ones that was infected in incgamer's ui crap were undectable by most software |
| 15:55.54 | Fisker- | same with the one on wowinterface |
| 15:56.07 | thul | get a mac |
| 15:56.21 | Fisker- | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant |
| 15:56.34 | thul | pfft |
| 15:56.35 | thul | thul > maddox |
| 15:56.55 | Fisker- | never |
| 15:57.24 | thul | and that article is fail:) |
| 15:57.26 | thul | next topic. |
| 15:57.41 | Fisker- | is not |
| 15:58.23 | thul | ofcourse it is |
| 15:58.26 | thul | it is faulty and stupid. |
| 15:58.29 | thul | now, next topic :-P |
| 15:58.54 | Lyfe | it's author fails too. |
| 15:59.10 | Fisker- | now i'll just gonna have to kill you all |
| 15:59.29 | thul | well, the author is funny now and then |
| 15:59.41 | thul | but he is a bit too similar to michael moore and ann coulter for my liking :-P |
| 15:59.46 | thul | even though his t-shirts are cool |
| 15:59.51 | thul | (I'm actually wearing one of them now) |
| 16:00.01 | Lyfe | heh |
| 16:00.13 | Fisker- | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=fashion <-i liked that one |
| 16:00.17 | haste | Fisker-: I'm being corpsecamped by a L70 hunter \:D/ awesome horde on RC |
| 16:00.18 | Fisker- | and the iphone one |
| 16:00.21 | Fisker- | :O |
| 16:00.22 | Fisker- | who? |
| 16:00.38 | haste | simpto |
| 16:00.41 | haste | looks like he left now |
| 16:01.18 | Fisker- | where you at? |
| 16:01.21 | haste | STV |
| 16:01.36 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:01.38 | Fisker- | he's offline |
| 16:02.39 | thul | haste: should I talk to him? :-P |
| 16:02.42 | thul | ah, ok |
| 16:02.44 | thul | nvm then |
| 16:02.50 | thul | but seriously, my shaman's dps is like imba now |
| 16:02.53 | thul | it is sick :-P |
| 16:05.15 | CIA-8 | 03mikk 07Beta * r57723 10Ace3/tests/AceConfigRegisty-3.0-errors.lua: |
| 16:05.15 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 16:05.15 | CIA-8 | - Update AceConfigRegistry tests for ACE-96 |
| 16:07.26 | CIA-8 | 03mikk 07Beta * r57724 10Ace3/tests/AceTimer-3.0-test2.lua: |
| 16:07.26 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 16:07.26 | CIA-8 | - Fix typod test for ACE-94 |
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| 16:18.01 | kaiden | Anyone know of any addons that make it easy to sell multiple items in the trade channel? Looking for something that i can somewhat macro my WTS's so i dont have to rewrite them out everytime and i dont feel like using the AH due to the cost of putting items up that sometimes dont sell |
| 16:18.34 | Fisker- | you boring haste :) |
| 16:18.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:18.52 | [SW]Dodge | you can link items in macros o.o |
| 16:19.07 | haste | Fisker-: what :( ? |
| 16:21.45 | Fisker- | you are most elusive |
| 16:21.48 | thul | haha |
| 16:21.49 | Fisker- | so i gave up |
| 16:22.10 | Fisker- | not with plate you don't |
| 16:23.08 | thul | pfft, premed, cs with 2cps, backstab, imp-ea, backstab |
| 16:23.08 | thul | :-P |
| 16:24.35 | thul | I like the way that it is possible to do good shock-damage as enhancement now |
| 16:29.15 | Pkekyo| | 250 ores prospected, three blue gems, two of them talasite... net profit: 20g, time spent: two days farming |
| 16:29.23 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.49 | Fisker- | YES |
| 16:30.34 | Fisker- | your anguish is my happiness |
| 16:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hello. |
| 16:31.44 | Ellipsis | hai sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:31.54 | Fisker- | NO U sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:32.09 | Chompers | enough with the foreplay |
| 16:32.15 | sag_ich_nicht | right |
| 16:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | on with it |
| 16:32.16 | Chompers | lets get down to the sexing |
| 16:33.34 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo ... what ore? Fel Iron or Adamantite? |
| 16:33.37 | sag_ich_nicht | why the whimpering, Ellipsis? don't like the new year coming? :X |
| 16:33.45 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, I hope you're happy, you just made my WoW crash. |
| 16:34.02 | Zhinjio | because thats an extraordinarily low rate for Adamantite. |
| 16:35.58 | Zhinjio | 250 ore == 50 prospects ~= 10-15 blue gems. |
| 16:36.14 | Zhinjio | 3 is atrociously low. |
| 16:37.00 | Lukian | what about consent forms? |
| 16:37.18 | thul | neeh |
| 16:37.24 | thul | I'll fake those |
| 16:37.30 | Ellipsis | you have my consent, that's all you need |
| 16:37.38 | Lukian | :o |
| 16:37.49 | Lukian | :D |
| 16:38.00 | thul | haha |
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| 16:40.24 | Pkekyo| | 17:33ZhinjioPkekyo ... what ore? Fel Iron or Adamantite? <---- adamantite |
| 16:41.15 | thul | hmm |
| 16:41.18 | thul | any lvl 70 shamans here? :-P |
| 16:41.30 | Pkekyo| | I know a lvl 70 shaman, does that count? :p |
| 16:41.41 | Pkekyo| | had to stop leveling my shaman, blizzard kept rolling him back to lvl 28 |
| 16:42.19 | thul | hmm? :-P |
| 16:42.26 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10618 |
| 16:42.30 | Industrial | sorry I just had to :( |
| 16:42.33 | thul | well, I wonder how high one can get ones crit as enhancement at 70 without gimping AP and such |
| 16:43.36 | Pkekyo| | no idea |
| 16:43.40 | Industrial | stack agi? |
| 16:43.40 | Pkekyo| | either way, elemental is the way to go |
| 16:43.52 | Industrial | I dont know how agi:ap works for shammy |
| 16:44.09 | thul | elemental is no fun :-( |
| 16:44.15 | Industrial | why not |
| 16:44.20 | Industrial | LITENIN FOR UR ASS!! |
| 16:44.26 | Industrial | I think thats pretty fun |
| 16:44.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:44.29 | Pkekyo| | thul: critting 20 people for 8k is not fun? |
| 16:44.34 | thul | well, I was pvp-elemental in av for like 2 years |
| 16:44.37 | thul | before tbc:P |
| 16:45.20 | Pkekyo| | how's leveling as elemental? |
| 16:45.34 | thul | well, slow |
| 16:45.35 | thul | I'm lvling as imbaench |
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| 16:47.13 | stavmar | Kemayo: ping? |
| 16:47.17 | Pkekyo| | I find leveling as enhancement with a bloody staff boring tbh :< |
| 16:48.04 | Kemayo | stavmar: Pong. |
| 16:48.59 | thul | 2h? :-P |
| 16:49.00 | thul | fail |
| 16:49.11 | thul | 2 slow 1h + 20% crit ++ = win |
| 16:49.22 | thul | i do an average of 350 dps when grinding mobs for quests |
| 16:49.25 | thul | selfbuffed. |
| 16:49.27 | winkiller | I'll go elem I guess |
| 16:49.43 | stavmar | Kemayo: did you mean to add guild bank script commands to your wiki? |
| 16:49.49 | Osstia_ | I did elemental until i could dual weild |
| 16:49.54 | Osstia_ | then switched |
| 16:49.56 | stavmar | Kemayo: I just want to make sure I am not missing any functionality |
| 16:49.56 | winkiller | y |
| 16:50.33 | thul | gwith the new talents and the right build, you can spam shocks too, without costing too much mana |
| 16:50.56 | Kemayo | stavmar: guild bank functionality is all there... I should add it to the wiki page |
| 16:51.10 | Pkekyo| | thul: can't get dual wield yet |
| 16:51.14 | stavmar | well I just want to know the best method to sort all pages of the guild bank at once |
| 16:51.19 | winkiller | whch addon? |
| 16:51.20 | thul | Pkekyo|: ah, ok |
| 16:51.39 | stavmar | or do i have to do each page seperately |
| 16:52.17 | Kemayo | stavmar: You'd have to do each page separately. |
| 16:52.52 | stavmar | ok just wanted to make sure I saw your revision change and noticed something about "groups" and I guess I am not sure what that is |
| 16:54.55 | Kemayo | stavmar: The change is that I'd forgotten to update a config method, which meant that guild bank tabs couldn't be added to custom bag groups for no good reason. |
| 16:55.15 | stavmar | so what can custom bag groups do for sorting |
| 16:55.21 | stavmar | anything? |
| 16:55.52 | Kemayo | stavmar: The custom group feature lets you say "I want to call bags 1 and 2 'junk', and then be able to say '/sort junk'". |
| 16:56.16 | stavmar | aaah, but not for guild pages just yet? Or Ever? |
| 16:56.31 | Kemayo | It now works for guild bank stuff. |
| 16:56.42 | stavmar | so I can do multiple pages then? |
| 16:57.02 | CIA-8 | 03pettigrow * r57726 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: frFR Update |
| 16:57.06 | thul | with talents and stuff, my shocks costs 76% less mana after a crit |
| 16:57.17 | thul | that means melee-spam, stormstrike-spam, *CRIT* = shockspam |
| 16:57.22 | thul | lots of damage:P |
| 16:57.35 | Kemayo | Depends on how you want it to behave. If you wanted each page to be individually sorted, this wouldn't work. If you wanted the sort to happen across all pages, you could. |
| 16:58.46 | thul | I want to raid as enhancement :-( |
| 16:59.04 | [SW]Dodge | thul: why you cant? |
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| 16:59.17 | [SW]Dodge | !c eu sen'jin morto |
| 16:59.19 | ThraeBot | [SW]Dodge: Morto, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (3/44/14). 8419 HP; 7143 Mana; 128 mana regen; 16 mp5; 5432 Armour; 1622 AP; 234.800 Melee DPS; 24.14% melee crit; 175 melee hit; 486 +spell dmg/heal; 15.43% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 991 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ghzqe ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lrl2k ][ Updated: Mon Dec 31 12:04:00 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:59.43 | [SW]Dodge | our raid enhachment sham:E:E ^^ |
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| 17:02.38 | thul | wwell, first i have to hit 70, then I have to hit a guild.. that actually wants me to be enhancement |
| 17:02.42 | thul | hehe, ok. |
| 17:03.55 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 17:04.20 | haste | thul: you rolled a new char on RC also :p ? (as in, no other chars there from before) |
| 17:04.48 | thul | nopes. |
| 17:05.04 | thul | got 63 shaman, 44 warrior, 27 lock there:p |
| 17:05.26 | Osstia_ | `........................................................................................................................................................................................................ |
| 17:05.31 | haste | hi |
| 17:05.32 | Osstia_ | . |
| 17:05.35 | Osstia_ | . |
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| 17:06.44 | thul | good morning Osstia_ .. :-P |
| 17:07.05 | thul | have to learn to put all my chars on the same server soon |
| 17:07.07 | Srosh | ~seen antiarc |
| 17:07.09 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 13m 31s) #wowace (4h 13m 31s), last said: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVku86WfVg'. |
| 17:07.10 | stavmar | Kemayo: well that is thing I want to type /sort guidbank and let all the apges sort, that i cannot do. |
| 17:07.13 | thul | wtb horde->alliance transfer :-P |
| 17:07.33 | haste | wtb horde -> allinace server transfer * |
| 17:07.42 | thul | yeah. |
| 17:07.48 | thul | I want my ravencrest horde > balnazzar alliance |
| 17:07.49 | haste | I have 4k gold on my rogue which doesn't help me at all on RC :p |
| 17:07.53 | thul | hehe |
| 17:08.02 | thul | he is ally? :-P |
| 17:08.05 | thul | if so: too bad :-D |
| 17:08.07 | haste | he's horde |
| 17:08.16 | haste | my priest however is ally |
| 17:08.18 | thul | which servers do you have other chars on? :-P |
| 17:08.26 | thul | and how can i get a hold on that 4k gold :-D |
| 17:08.38 | haste | hah, it will stay there :p |
| 17:08.44 | thul | :-( |
| 17:09.12 | thul | too bad:( |
| 17:09.24 | Zhinjio | you can move it over if you're willing to take 15% hit on neutral AH |
| 17:09.55 | haste | Zhinjio: I already have a char on the server, so it's not possible |
| 17:10.18 | thul | fireworks in shatt:P |
| 17:10.30 | Zhinjio | haste: why's that? |
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| 17:10.48 | haste | Zhinjio: I can't have 1xHorde and 1xAlliance on the same server |
| 17:11.14 | [SW]Dodge | you can, if you meet a stupid gm^^ |
| 17:11.17 | haste | I could buy another account, create an ally on my old server, then transfer the money and the char over tho' |
| 17:11.34 | [SW]Dodge | delete you ally, transfer your horde and let recreate your ally :) |
| 17:11.41 | Zhinjio | huh, I guess I never realized that was a limitation. |
| 17:12.09 | [SW]Dodge | Zhinjio: on pvp server you only can choose 1 fraction not like on pve server both ^^ |
| 17:13.02 | Zhinjio | gotcha |
| 17:13.18 | haste | so.. what's the level req. on PCT? |
| 17:14.05 | [SW]Dodge | 10 is minimum |
| 17:14.08 | Pkekyo| | what weapons can enhancements shamans DW? |
| 17:14.11 | [SW]Dodge | 10-30 -> max 300g |
| 17:14.17 | [SW]Dodge | 31-50 max 1000g |
| 17:14.24 | [SW]Dodge | 51+ max 5000g |
| 17:14.26 | haste | =\ |
| 17:14.53 | [SW]Dodge | (in EU... dunno how it is in US) |
| 17:14.53 | haste | not that leveling a char takes long, but it's a slightly wasted effort |
| 17:15.08 | Aeyan | 1h hammers, axes, daggers, and fist weapons |
| 17:16.19 | [SW]Dodge | haste: use the ah |
| 17:16.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis look at this: http://pastey.net/79849 |
| 17:16.49 | [SW]Dodge | i bough blue gems etc for 360g on one server and sold them for ~1000g on another :D |
| 17:17.11 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht is it worth 5mins of lag? |
| 17:17.11 | haste | [SW]Dodge: I have gold, but on another faction, on another server :p |
| 17:17.44 | thul | Pkekyo|: maces, axes, daggers and fists |
| 17:17.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: it shows a massive game (not code) design error in WoW, basicially i reduced a whole spec to 1 button. |
| 17:18.02 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 17:18.24 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I never knew you played a hunter |
| 17:18.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: not hunter. |
| 17:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | they had that since forever. |
| 17:18.53 | kneeki | lets say if I have 'for i = 1, 8 do print("number "..i) end' |
| 17:19.05 | thul | should I try that on my lvl 64 ret-pala for lvling sag_ich_nicht ? :-P |
| 17:19.20 | Fisker- | i fap for you sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:19.20 | sag_ich_nicht | thul: if you have macrosequence, sure. |
| 17:19.26 | kneeki | and if, while doing that loop, 'i == 5' how do I make it just add one to i, and continue the loop? |
| 17:19.45 | kneeki | 'i = i + 1; return' ? |
| 17:19.47 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: what is macrosequence? :-P |
| 17:20.06 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 17:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | that is macro sequence. |
| 17:20.09 | thul | hmm |
| 17:20.11 | thul | any gurls here? |
| 17:20.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no you can't have here. |
| 17:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | she's not for sale. |
| 17:20.39 | sag_ich_nicht | (yet) |
| 17:20.44 | thul | well, I have a gf |
| 17:20.47 | thul | but she is already at the party |
| 17:20.51 | thul | and i need clothing tips :-( |
| 17:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | wear black. |
| 17:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | done. |
| 17:21.10 | thul | I'm going in dark blue jeans, grey v-neck and black pinstriped jacket |
| 17:21.11 | sag_ich_nicht | black t-shirt + blue jeans = done. |
| 17:21.11 | thul | BUT |
| 17:21.12 | Fisker- | [SW]Dodge |
| 17:21.18 | Fisker- | Level 70's can transfer 10k |
| 17:21.29 | thul | red, white or pinkish/purpleish shirt |
| 17:21.34 | thul | THAT is the question |
| 17:21.34 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, any bugs with EasyPet yet? |
| 17:21.45 | [SW]Dodge | well in the pct faq on wow-euroüe.com is just 51+ ^^ |
| 17:21.47 | sag_ich_nicht | you're doing it wrong, thul. |
| 17:21.50 | [SW]Dodge | kneeki: yea |
| 17:21.54 | [SW]Dodge | a bad one |
| 17:21.57 | thul | sag_ich_nicht: hmm? :-P |
| 17:21.59 | thul | k? :-P |
| 17:21.59 | kneeki | oh noes |
| 17:22.12 | [SW]Dodge | you are using the pet action bar |
| 17:22.36 | Fisker- | [SW]Dodge that's because the EU webmasters are lazy |
| 17:22.46 | [SW]Dodge | if i hit spelllock it uses... the ap debuff (something with blood^) |
| 17:22.54 | [SW]Dodge | Fisker-: hehe |
| 17:23.11 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, Ah, I see |
| 17:23.25 | [SW]Dodge | and |
| 17:23.35 | kneeki | in deDE, is Spell lock not #6 when counting from the left? |
| 17:23.37 | [SW]Dodge | the buttons wont dissaper if i mount |
| 17:23.47 | Ellipsis | oh honestly sag_ich_nicht, stop trying to give fashion advice, you're just not gay enough :P |
| 17:23.59 | [SW]Dodge | i have moved my skills on the pet action bar |
| 17:24.02 | thul | I solved the problem |
| 17:24.04 | thul | I called my gf |
| 17:24.06 | Zhinjio | is it possible to have both left and right aligned text on the same button? |
| 17:24.06 | thul | she fixed. |
| 17:24.07 | kneeki | They are not supposed to disapear, because I cannot make them reappear in combat |
| 17:24.07 | thul | I rock |
| 17:24.09 | Ellipsis | good plan thul |
| 17:24.18 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok |
| 17:24.22 | Zhinjio | hrm. maybe a text overlay or something |
| 17:24.27 | Thrae | Man, I hope I don't have work today. |
| 17:24.29 | Zhinjio | transparent |
| 17:24.32 | kneeki | I was thinking of making them turn blue if mounted or something |
| 17:25.16 | [SW]Dodge | cant modify the alppha in combat?^^ |
| 17:25.33 | Thrae | [SW]Dodge: They're too smart for that |
| 17:25.51 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, nope, Cannot do that, or disable the mouse |
| 17:26.01 | kneeki | It's a very frustrating issue for me \ |
| 17:26.01 | [SW]Dodge | mh, crappy |
| 17:26.03 | kneeki | =( |
| 17:26.13 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 17:26.13 | thul | I have the most beautifull gf in the universe :-D (no offence Ellipsis and sag_ich_nicht :-P ) |
| 17:26.30 | kneeki | I wonder if I set the parent frame to the pet bar .... no, bad idea |
| 17:26.32 | Ellipsis | none taken, I don't aim for "beautiful" |
| 17:27.11 | kneeki | Dodge, fixed the 'casting the wrong spell' issue |
| 17:27.14 | thul | haha |
| 17:27.18 | thul | well, we all have different aims :-P |
| 17:27.26 | [SW]Dodge | kneeki: how?^^ |
| 17:27.29 | thul | I aim for "viking" |
| 17:27.49 | Thrae | Oh crap...not only do I have work, but I'm late |
| 17:29.07 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, changed it from clicking the button number, to using the spell name |
| 17:29.27 | kneeki | I thought that across the localizations, the spells would be the same number |
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| 17:41.38 | Zhinjio | whats the easiest way to right-align text on a button? |
| 17:44.28 | Industrial | :SetJustifyH('RIGHT') ? |
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| 17:45.06 | Zhinjio | I don't think that method works on a button. |
| 17:45.24 | Industrial | no, because the text isnt on the button |
| 17:46.47 | haste | button:GetFontString():SetJustifyH"RIGHT" |
| 17:47.15 | Zhinjio | actually, nevermind. I already took care of this in my custom button create thinger. I had just forgotten about it |
| 17:48.49 | Ellipsis | I just got a green quest reward that's an upgrade :( |
| 17:50.04 | Industrial | hows that bad? |
| 17:50.40 | Ellipsis | um...it's bad because it's the first gear upgrade I've had in like a month |
| 17:50.54 | Ellipsis | and it's replacing a blue |
| 17:54.23 | Osstia_ | lol |
| 17:54.33 | Osstia_ | What class are you playing Ellipsis? |
| 17:55.26 | Ellipsis | warlock |
| 17:55.49 | Osstia | I love my lock, I can't wait to get her to 70 |
| 17:55.59 | Osstia | I have too many chars leveling though |
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| 18:01.10 | Administrator | helloo??? |
| 18:01.54 | igounfazed | hello? anyone here? |
| 18:02.07 | haste | yes |
| 18:02.26 | igounfazed | sorry. this is my first time ever using irc. |
| 18:02.45 | igounfazed | is there a channel for learning help? |
| 18:03.11 | Pkekyo| | tried #help ? |
| 18:03.16 | CIA-8 | 03zhinjio * r57727 10/branches/SKG/ (7 files): |
| 18:03.16 | CIA-8 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 18:03.16 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.16 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.17 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.27 | igounfazed | Meaning learning on making an addon. |
| 18:03.43 | Pkekyo| | check the lua parts of wowwiki :) |
| 18:04.39 | igounfazed | would the lua ones still make it aced? |
| 18:04.57 | Pkekyo| | if memory serves, ace is a way to write lua |
| 18:05.13 | Pkekyo| | - a standarized framework, if you will |
| 18:05.15 | Pkekyo| | ~lua |
| 18:05.15 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 18:05.17 | Pkekyo| | ~ace |
| 18:05.18 | purl | ace is probably a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 18:05.41 | Pkekyo| | thanks purl |
| 18:05.55 | igounfazed | thanks purl |
| 18:06.05 | Zhinjio | time for some sleep. Tonight: syncing code. I need good sleep before I take that on. |
| 18:06.09 | Zhinjio | peace, y'all |
| 18:06.52 | Gngsk | peace out! |
| 18:07.07 | Pkekyo| | g'nite Zhinjio |
| 18:07.18 | Pkekyo| | didn't 'peace out' die during the mid nineties? |
| 18:07.29 | Pkekyo| | yay, I got the rookie to talk to the bot :p |
| 18:07.30 | Gngsk | maybe |
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| 18:08.19 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57728 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 18:08.20 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:08.20 | CIA-8 | - deDE update |
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| 18:08.23 | igounfazed | which lua editor do you guys girls prefer or recommend? |
| 18:08.52 | Gngsk | wowi scite with wow api support! |
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| 18:09.20 | Pkekyo| | I prefer just using a more or less regular text editor...but then again, I only edit lua, I don't write much myself |
| 18:09.21 | Industrial | any text editor |
| 18:09.47 | Osstia | Are textures built into button templates? |
| 18:09.52 | Industrial | igounfazed: I would also advise to start without ace |
| 18:10.03 | Osstia | igounfazed I am using Notepad++, I like it for LUA |
| 18:10.04 | krka | Osstia: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 18:10.28 | Pkekyo| | igounfazed: even though it's more resource hogging etc, it's easier with non-ace lua when learning |
| 18:10.32 | Osstia | s/LUA/Lua/ |
| 18:11.10 | igounfazed | so lets say all i want to do is make an addon that records my attack and then the next ten hits on that target. would I need to use an editor? |
| 18:11.36 | Osstia | Lua is plain text. You can use any text editor to create it |
| 18:11.48 | Industrial | to edit text you need a text editor, to ride a bike you need a bike |
| 18:11.49 | Industrial | >_> |
| 18:11.51 | Pkekyo| | you should be able to do it just with notepad if you're patient and take care to detail |
| 18:12.00 | Pkekyo| | rofl Industrial :) |
| 18:12.21 | Industrial | doesnt matter what bike, as long as it rides |
| 18:12.40 | Osstia | Industrial although technicly you could do it all with echo >> or copy con |
| 18:12.42 | Gngsk | you also need legs or arms, these things aren't required to write an addon though |
| 18:12.55 | igounfazed | i have patience to do it. i'm just not sure of where to obtain the proper "hook" and "tags" i think. |
| 18:13.08 | Pkekyo| | as long as you can ride it*, Industrial....if the bike starts to ride you, you're in trouble :p |
| 18:13.17 | Pkekyo| | igounfazed: that's what wowwiki is for :) |
| 18:13.18 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: ;p |
| 18:13.28 | Industrial | Osstia: that'd also be editing text, no? :P |
| 18:13.44 | Osstia | but not a text editor no? |
| 18:14.06 | Ellipsis | in soviet russia, text edits you. |
| 18:14.09 | Osstia | I think it would be madness |
| 18:14.28 | kenlyric | i'm pretty sure the yakov rule is just like godwin's law |
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| 18:15.08 | Pkekyo| | igounfazed: gl hf :) |
| 18:16.01 | igounfazed | i'm not to sure what hf means. but thanx for the good luck. |
| 18:16.10 | Pkekyo| | have fun |
| 18:16.28 | igounfazed | thank you. |
| 18:16.37 | Pkekyo| | figures noone knows what hf means in wow....cs gamers treat the game like it was aids :p |
| 18:17.40 | Industrial | typical |
| 18:17.41 | sanari | what is cs? >.< |
| 18:17.47 | Industrial | everyone else usually does that with cs |
| 18:18.47 | igounfazed | counter strike? |
| 18:19.12 | sanari | hmm oki |
| 18:19.18 | Snago | people still play counter strike? |
| 18:19.38 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 18:19.40 | sanari | is it an old mmo? |
| 18:19.43 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 18:19.51 | Osstia | yes |
| 18:20.02 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57729 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 18:20.02 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:20.02 | CIA-8 | - Added Gnomish Engineer and Goblin Engineer (that's how they show up in the spellbook now) |
| 18:20.09 | Osstia | I still play it, although I am rather terrible at it these days |
| 18:20.22 | Pkekyo| | sanari: it's a multiplayer fps half-life modification |
| 18:20.38 | Pkekyo| | released in '99, actively played by millions to this day |
| 18:20.41 | Industrial | #counterstrike |
| 18:20.43 | sanari | oh one of those |
| 18:20.45 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r57730 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:20.45 | CIA-8 | AlarBGHelper |
| 18:20.45 | CIA-8 | 3.2.0 |
| 18:20.45 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can automatically thanks people who heals you in battlegrounds. Antispam included (no more than 1 thanks every 2 minutes to the same one) |
| 18:20.46 | CIA-8 | Feature: Localization done. Now I need translators |
| 18:20.48 | CIA-8 | Feature: Eye of the Storm result prediction improved |
| 18:20.50 | CIA-8 | Feature: You can now hide Honor marks recap in Fubar text |
| 18:21.05 | sanari | I don't play games mostly, just wow |
| 18:21.24 | Osstia | I want to put a button on a frame that would be a place to drag and drop items, then take information about those items. I was thinking about using SecureActionButtonTemplate but when I do, I can't see any button |
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| 18:21.52 | Osstia | Is there another template I should use? |
| 18:22.15 | Osstia | or a list of templates. I have tried searching for a list, and am coming up empty handed |
| 18:22.33 | Industrial | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 18:22.38 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57731 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:22.38 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:22.38 | CIA-8 | - Fix for engineering filtering (Blizz has them in as Engineer not Engineering) |
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| 18:23.49 | Pkekyo| | Industrial#counterstrike <---- not on freenode you don't....go quakenet |
| 18:24.33 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: no, I dont want to. I hate cs. This is a woa channel. |
| 18:24.37 | Industrial | wow* |
| 18:24.45 | Pkekyo| | hehe |
| 18:25.02 | Pkekyo| | cs is fun, but people tend to be way too serious about it |
| 18:25.11 | Pkekyo| | ...quite similar to wow :p |
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| 18:25.25 | Osstia | Industrial ty |
| 18:25.46 | Industrial | me licks Ellipsis |
| 18:25.48 | Industrial | fail |
| 18:25.54 | Ellipsis | ~fail Industrial |
| 18:25.55 | purl | Industrial: Fail. |
| 18:26.01 | Pkekyo| | damnit, beat me to it |
| 18:26.21 | Industrial | ~lick Ellipsis |
| 18:26.21 | purl | ACTION licks Ellipsis *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 18:26.41 | Ellipsis | hot |
| 18:26.49 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, did you have any extra suggestions to add to EasyPet before my next commit? I fixed what you told me earlier, and added in a seduction timer |
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| 18:30.09 | Ellipsis | arr, no mr. pinchy pet for me :< |
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| 18:39.56 | dylanm | Dammit Indy why weren't you fishing while she was at work or school or something this is awful |
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| 18:46.30 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57732 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 18:46.30 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:46.30 | CIA-8 | - Added a fix for using skillet and ATSW with beast training... should work :) |
| 18:47.23 | Pkekyo| | I'm off, happy new year everyone :) |
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| 18:51.02 | CIA-8 | 03kneeki * r57733 10EasyPet/ (EasyPet.lua EasyPet.toc Frames.lua localization.lua): |
| 18:51.02 | CIA-8 | EasyPet: |
| 18:51.02 | CIA-8 | - Fixed spell casting for non english clients, added real tooltips, added seduction timer, cleaned up code for showing/hiding of buttons. |
| 18:51.32 | kneeki | tasty ;) |
| 18:53.28 | Ellipsis | dylanm: he wasn't fishing for me because I don't go to work or school :P |
| 18:53.35 | dylanm | Well. |
| 18:55.34 | [SW]Dodge | kneeki: you want a german translatuin of the tooltips? |
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| 18:55.57 | xyu` | f |
| 18:56.51 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 18:56.57 | Fisker- | someone needs to revert babble |
| 18:57.00 | Fisker- | ackis fucked it up |
| 18:57.21 | Fisker- | or wait |
| 18:58.12 | Fisker- | weird |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r57734 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-8 | - Bump version number |
| 19:00.32 | Fisker- | anyone know why that happens anyways_ |
| 19:00.34 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:00.35 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, nah. I'll leave all that up to the player to do :) |
| 19:00.48 | Fisker- | sometimes after having updated a library it will not load |
| 19:00.49 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, is 0.2 working out well for you so far? |
| 19:00.54 | Fisker- | and i have to restart and it works fine |
| 19:05.25 | [SW]Dodge | kneeki: testing now :) |
| 19:07.46 | [SW]Dodge | and i think you should try to get the translations and add them.. i know some really noobs, i think they would like you addon but would NEVER be able to "translate" it to get it to work :P |
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| 19:14.30 | CIA-8 | 03mikk 07Beta * r57735 10Ace3/tests/AceTimer-3.0-test1.lua: |
| 19:14.30 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 19:14.30 | CIA-8 | - Adapt AceTimer tests for ACE-94 (CancelTimer no longer fails silently by default) |
| 19:24.09 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, mate of mine's at work and he won't get off until next year :O |
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| 19:38.58 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, Well, the addon works great w/o using the options at all. Esp. since the options are nothing but positioning and scale - the tooltips should be your client language, whatever that is - since that's where it's being pulled from |
| 19:42.44 | [SW]Dodge | kneeki: ok :) |
| 19:43.22 | [SW]Dodge | i whish every one a happy new year, im afk for this year (3hrs 15min lol) |
| 19:43.35 | [SW]Dodge | cya in 2008 :D |
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| 20:00.33 | Pkekyo| | happy new year [SW]Dodge |
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| 20:18.02 | Osstia | I am trying to use a for loop to create some buttons. I am not doing very well, can someone look at a pastey and see if they can steer me in the right direction? |
| 20:18.06 | Osstia | http://wowi.pastey.net/79850 |
| 20:19.13 | haste | http://wowi.pastey.net/79851-2v0c:79850-4fjd |
| 20:19.29 | haste | you still have to :SetPoint() it for it to show |
| 20:20.12 | Osstia | yeah |
| 20:20.38 | Osstia | I was working on the SetPoint, I wanted to have them from left to right attached to each other |
| 20:21.06 | Osstia | and 2 rows, but I think I can handle that |
| 20:25.24 | Osstia | Thank you haste |
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| 21:01.10 | Silowyi | weird |
| 21:01.17 | Silowyi | I guess I haven't depended on that functionality haste |
| 21:01.25 | Silowyi | wait |
| 21:01.27 | Silowyi | wrong channel |
| 21:01.28 | Silowyi | and wrong person |
| 21:01.34 | Silowyi | and hell, wrong hour |
| 21:01.37 | haste | >:3 |
| 21:02.38 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 21:03.02 | Pkekyo| | Silowyi and haste cybering? |
| 21:05.36 | Tinyboom | Happy New Year;) |
| 21:06.51 | Pkekyo| | happy new year Tinyboom |
| 21:06.55 | Pkekyo| | go out and get shitfaced |
| 21:09.20 | Fisker- | do want |
| 21:09.48 | Pkekyo| | then do so |
| 21:13.29 | Lemming2K | anyone knows if the download for illegal danish 2 is already up? |
| 21:13.40 | Lemming2K | the site is crashed btw ^^ |
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| 21:16.57 | CIA-8 | 03arkayenro * r57736 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ArkInventoryTooltip.lua VersionHistory.txt): |
| 21:16.57 | CIA-8 | ArkInventory: |
| 21:16.57 | CIA-8 | - 2.24f |
| 21:27.19 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo| working on it^^ yellow widow champagne inc :p |
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| 21:28.57 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
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| 21:57.02 | Xuerian | myndflame.com is down, too... >_> |
| 21:57.15 | Xuerian | blah, hadn't scrolled down... hour ago...ftw |
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| 22:07.55 | RaydenUni | wowjutsu.com is down? |
| 22:09.01 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03jjungnickel <jjungnickel@gmail.com> 07master * r0768cc00e9 10./TourGuide_Alliance/65_66_Nagrand.lua: [Patch] Typo in Nagrand (65-66) Guide (Alliance) |
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| 22:10.25 | haste | works fine here |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | 03slake333 * r57737 10Scrub/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | Scrub: 1.1.4 |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | - SHAMAN: Tweaked Elemental Filler check |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | - SHAMAN: Call of Flame check changed to red severity |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | - SHAMAN: Elemental Mastery check will only flag when Unrelenting Storm has less than four ranks |
| 22:16.24 | CIA-8 | - SHAMAN: Guardian Totems check removed |
| 22:16.26 | CIA-8 | - WARRIOR: Improved Heroic Strike check removed |
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| 22:16.57 | Pkekyo| | ~scrub |
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| 22:36.31 | Vulcanus | theres a mod that detects if your spec sucks eh XD |
| 22:37.00 | NightHawkTheSane | not just your spec |
| 22:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone's |
| 22:37.30 | Vulcanus | ah XD |
| 22:37.51 | Vulcanus | does it autowhisper the people with scrub specs? |
| 22:37.51 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 22:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i'm aware :P |
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| 22:52.17 | Osstia | I mis fin |
| 22:52.20 | Osstia | miss even |
| 22:54.13 | Chompers | so what exactly does Scrub do? |
| 22:54.45 | shieldb | scans the talents of everyone in party / raid within 30yd (via inspecting) and then flags people with odd choices from a raiding perspective |
| 22:55.20 | shieldb | folks get flagged as either green (AOK), yellow (check with people, but not always an issue), or red (WTF are you doing in a raid with that) |
| 22:55.27 | Chompers | not bad at all |
| 22:55.33 | shieldb | and then specifically listing whatever it is that it flagged |
| 22:55.55 | Chompers | self buffed or raid buffed? |
| 22:56.13 | shieldb | nothing to do with buffs, just specs |
| 22:56.29 | Chompers | my bad, didn't notice that |
| 22:56.51 | NightHawkTheSane | you can also scrub your target as well |
| 22:56.55 | NightHawkTheSane | for people who arn't in your party/raid |
| 22:57.13 | bigzero | lol, that's nice |
| 22:58.44 | bigzero | I'm curious to see what the acceptable specs are for raiding |
| 22:59.31 | shieldb | there's a fairly active thread about it on the EJ boards |
| 23:02.38 | nevcairiel | happy new year europe! |
| 23:03.33 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 23:03.40 | Fisker- | Noone fired any fireworks yet |
| 23:03.49 | nevcairiel | (00:02:29) (nevcairiel) happy new year europe! |
| 23:03.52 | Fisker- | 4 minutes past midnight now :O |
| 23:04.11 | Fisker- | most boring new year's ever evar |
| 23:04.13 | Fisker- | !!!! |
| 23:04.17 | Fisker- | There was one rocket :P |
| 23:04.39 | nevcairiel | i've been hearing all the noise for 10 minutes already |
| 23:04.53 | Fisker- | that's the second |
| 23:05.03 | Fisker- | and a third, seems to be ramping up now |
| 23:05.04 | nevcairiel | on another news, my second alt finished kara pre-quest shortly before newyear :P |
| 23:05.14 | nevcairiel | tanking with my warr is fun |
| 23:05.22 | Osstia | Happy New Year |
| 23:05.31 | Fin | happy new year |
| 23:05.43 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 23:06.17 | Osstia | If I am using ItemButtonTemplate, do I still need to set the buttons up to handle drag/drop events, or is that handled by the template? |
| 23:06.49 | nevcairiel | i dont know of such a template |
| 23:07.12 | Elkano | Happy new year from my timezone :) |
| 23:07.26 | Daemona | looks like europe then ;) |
| 23:07.31 | NightHawkTheSane | its still like 9 hours till new year here |
| 23:07.32 | nevcairiel | hey Elkano is home too |
| 23:07.50 | nevcairiel | Daemona: same country even :P |
| 23:07.56 | Osstia | I am trying to create a button that I can drag items from my bag onto, then extract the name/ID of the items that are dropped there |
| 23:08.01 | Osstia | does that make sense at all? |
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| 23:08.51 | Daemona | wow i feel nerdy... |
| 23:08.57 | Osstia | ? |
| 23:09.08 | nevcairiel | because you're in IRC right now? |
| 23:09.11 | Daemona | oo:08 over here and i am chatting on irc ;) |
| 23:09.13 | Osstia | haha |
| 23:09.21 | many | nonsense |
| 23:09.22 | nevcairiel | you're not alone with that :P |
| 23:09.33 | many | you would be nerdy when you'd celebrate newyear in wow |
| 23:09.40 | Daemona | sipping a hot chocolate, laughing at all those idiots burning money |
| 23:09.41 | Osstia | it's only 4:09 here, but I plan on being nerdy tonight too |
| 23:09.41 | nevcairiel | i've been doing instances till 15 minutes ago |
| 23:09.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 23:10.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Daemona: if it makes you feel better, i dont have any better plans for new years.. *shrug* :P |
| 23:10.04 | Daemona | many ... i am twinking a druid atm ;) but i didnt port to ogrimmar to see the firework ;) |
| 23:10.11 | many | :D |
| 23:10.32 | NightHawkTheSane | also, you guys rock for making me feel a bit less pathetic :D |
| 23:10.49 | Daemona | ./who orgrimmar 70 -> 35 |
| 23:11.03 | nevcairiel | they're all in booty bay |
| 23:11.18 | Daemona | ./who booty -> 0 |
| 23:11.27 | nevcairiel | ./who strangle ? :P |
| 23:11.39 | Daemona | 14 |
| 23:12.23 | Daemona | so, anyone uploaded a movie of the BB fireworks yet? cant be assed to go over there ;) |
| 23:12.33 | nevcairiel | its all the same |
| 23:12.40 | nevcairiel | same fireworks in shatt |
| 23:12.56 | Daemona | cant be something big, cant see it from garadar ;) |
| 23:13.03 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:13.15 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 23:13.21 | nevcairiel | its getting more noisy here |
| 23:13.23 | Daemona | goddamn, they are still firing rockets her... |
| 23:13.41 | nevcairiel | i bet that will go on till :30 here |
| 23:13.45 | nevcairiel | its always been like that |
| 23:14.06 | Daemona | i've got allwindows shut and its as loud as if i was standing in the streets |
| 23:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 23:14.57 | Daemona | at least i dinged 66 last year ;) |
| 23:15.28 | nevcairiel | i dinged 70 last year .. like 2 hours ago \o/ |
| 23:15.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:15.58 | nevcairiel | i watched fellowship yesterday, two towers today |
| 23:16.12 | Vulcanus | and three towers tomorrow |
| 23:16.23 | nevcairiel | its return of the king, but yeah :P |
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| 23:16.38 | Vulcanus | I has them all in extended editions |
| 23:16.39 | Vulcanus | ;D |
| 23:16.41 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 23:16.46 | NightHawkTheSane | who doesnt :P |
| 23:17.19 | Vulcanus | at first I didnt, then I realised the EE came with added movie (at first I thought it was just moar special features and a prettier box XD) and so I bought the EEs |
| 23:18.09 | Vulcanus | gah now you buggers made me want to watch lotr |
| 23:19.31 | nevcairiel | hehehe |
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| 23:23.21 | Aeyan | Marathon the EEs |
| 23:23.24 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 23:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i still need to rip the return of the king though |
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| 23:29.17 | Smj | I did an EE marathon a while back. Was fun. But awfully long. |
| 23:29.26 | Smj | like 10 hours or something. |
| 23:29.57 | bigzero | why is Dragon's Breath a raid spec for mages? is there that much aoe in TK/SSC/BT? |
| 23:30.30 | buu | YES DRAGON'S BREATH IS RAID SPEC. |
| 23:30.41 | Vulcanus | I like it for when I can run towards thrash and pop it when the mob is too low health for a fyreball |
| 23:31.23 | bigzero | that's what fireblast is for |
| 23:31.33 | Vulcanus | Which has no cooldown, amirite? |
| 23:31.41 | Chompers | Scrub is pretty sweet |
| 23:31.45 | bigzero | buu, are you being serious? |
| 23:32.26 | Chompers | kinda wish it had more of a gui though |
| 23:32.42 | buu | I am always serious. |
| 23:33.07 | Daemona | what do you need a gui for? |
| 23:33.11 | Daemona | ./scrub raid |
| 23:33.13 | Daemona | it scans |
| 23:33.19 | Daemona | it shows the result in a box |
| 23:33.30 | Vulcanus | bigzero: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Vyrre |
| 23:33.35 | Daemona | even has a close button. |
| 23:34.41 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU have a close button |
| 23:38.08 | bigzero | Vulcanus, that's not really a proof that it's useful...the disorient part is useless in raids (not that sure about end end-game raiding) and unless you really need to aoe a group of mobs you usually don't want to be close to a mob |
| 23:39.28 | Vulcanus | And you don't think that a guild who specialises in server firsts would be decent theorycrafters and know just what's useful and what's not? |
| 23:39.41 | bigzero | but on the other hand there isn't other talents worth spending points in with that spec |
| 23:40.26 | bigzero | Vulcanus, I'm not saying that it makes you bad at pve specing that way...i'm just saying that it's not really a raid spell |
| 23:40.55 | bigzero | definitelly not important enough to be flagged red by scrub |
| 23:42.10 | Vulcanus | never implied you said that 10/48/3 is a bad pve spec either (I do all right in BGs with the very same spec too in my hit capped 6800 HP gear :p), all I'm saying is that the talent definetely has its uses, even in just low-end level raiding |
| 23:42.16 | Industrial | Happy new year AMIRITE! |
| 23:43.00 | bigzero | nope...not yet :-P |
| 23:44.18 | CIA-8 | 03ulic * r57738 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: LittleWigs: If you add a new trigger for one language you must add it for all. |
| 23:45.00 | bigzero | Vulcanus, imo speccing 4 points in arcane focus > dragon's breath...specifically for CSing bosses (i know there aren't many of those) |
| 23:46.49 | Vulcanus | I don't know of a single boss that needs CSing (only thrash) and with hit cap + some spell penetration + 3pts you should be ok, never seen a CS resist in all my raiding days |
| 23:49.08 | bigzero | aran for instance...you need +16% hit to have 99% hit on lvl73 |
| 23:49.47 | Vulcanus | and when a kara/gruul raiding mage can achieve hit cap, everybody else can :p |
| 23:49.53 | bigzero | :-) |
| 23:50.22 | Vulcanus | and yeah I did forget about aran :p but imo kick > CS there |
| 23:50.30 | Vulcanus | or shield slam for that matter |
| 23:51.10 | NightHawkTheSane | shield bash.. |
| 23:51.13 | bigzero | conclusion: no need to flag dragon's breath as red in scrub :-P |
| 23:51.47 | Vulcanus | bs XD |
| 23:52.17 | Vulcanus | Besides, its not like you'll live inside an instance |
| 23:52.26 | Vulcanus | You could argue that Blast Wave is useless too |
| 23:54.04 | bigzero | i would...and yes, you're right, those are very useful outside of instances |
| 23:54.16 | bigzero | but scrub is meant for raiding |
| 23:55.27 | Vulcanus | ooooor maybe it recognises that you sometimes want to move your ass outside the instances every once in a while |
| 23:55.27 | Vulcanus | XD |
