| 00:00.56 | Wogroipl | first try on Leo, wipe at 10%... not bad witha pug |
| 00:01.00 | exor674 | Vorda: lemme find a place to get my voidie beat up |
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| 00:09.45 | Orionshock | ... how does one create a player "Hyperlink"? |
| 00:09.54 | Osstia|mac | 2 |
| 00:10.20 | Orionshock | or parse it |
| 00:10.40 | Industrial | uh, I forgot the exact format |
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| 00:11.13 | Industrial | but hook ChatFrame1:AddMessage(text, r, g, b, id) and output text raw (eg not through a chatframe) |
| 00:11.39 | Industrial | every chat line where someone says something has a link |
| 00:12.18 | Osstia|mac | I have a button attached to a frame, it isn't visible when I show the frame, but is when I mouse over it |
| 00:12.31 | Osstia|mac | do I need to be showing the button when I do the frame? |
| 00:12.46 | Osstia|mac | I'm not seeing what I am doing wrong |
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| 00:15.11 | Orionshock | Osstia yes |
| 00:16.03 | Orionshock | "|Hplayer:Vykaden|h[Vykaden]|h has come online." |
| 00:16.46 | Osstia|mac | so my function that shows my frame should so a frame:Shwo(); button:Show() |
| 00:17.07 | Nargiddley | what is the parent of the button ? |
| 00:17.18 | Osstia|mac | the frame |
| 00:17.38 | Nargiddley | then just show it as its created, hiding the frame will hide it |
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| 00:24.44 | Wogroipl | well we killed him :D |
| 00:25.32 | Osstia|mac | Nargiddley: that did't seem to do it |
| 00:25.35 | potemkin | does ace have a built in onupdate function |
| 00:27.45 | Osstia|mac | http://wowi.pastey.net/79762 |
| 00:29.02 | Nargiddley | the button has no texture set |
| 00:29.25 | Nargiddley | inherit from "UIPanelButtonTemplate" it has the normal button textures all setup |
| 00:32.42 | Zhinjio | ok, Orionshock, trying again now |
| 00:34.07 | Osstia|mac | Nargiddley: that changed the look of the button tremendously, but did not make the button show when I show the frame |
| 00:34.38 | Osstia|mac | it still stays hidden until I mouse over the frame |
| 00:35.17 | Zhinjio | Osstia: is "frame" in line 4 the parent frame? |
| 00:35.27 | Osstia|mac | yes |
| 00:35.41 | Osstia|mac | and I have a function that does a frame:Show() |
| 00:36.01 | Osstia|mac | that does show the frame, but not the button |
| 00:36.05 | Nargiddley | unless theres more code doing something weird that should show the button as well |
| 00:36.18 | Osstia|mac | when I mouse over the frame te button shows |
| 00:36.34 | Nargiddley | what code runs on that mouseover ? |
| 00:36.42 | Zhinjio | I only see a hilight texture (which displays when you mouseover) ... no normal texture |
| 00:36.59 | Orionshock | lol |
| 00:36.59 | Nargiddley | thats why I got him to inherit from the bliz template |
| 00:37.08 | Zhinjio | oh, right |
| 00:37.21 | Zhinjio | I'm still looking at the pastey, sorry |
| 00:37.22 | Osstia|mac | which i will fix, but it ddin't behave any better |
| 00:37.36 | Osstia|mac | the only mouseover for the frame is a tooltip |
| 00:38.43 | Zhinjio | Orion, I did cleardb on both toons, rescanned professions, checked boxes on both toons, and then did publish on both |
| 00:38.54 | Nargiddley | I cant see anything in that code that would cause it |
| 00:39.09 | Nargiddley | i'm heading out now, sorry I couldn't be more help :/ |
| 00:39.53 | Osstia|mac | thanks for looking though |
| 00:39.59 | Osstia|mac | I will keep playing |
| 00:40.07 | Osstia|mac | I need to find a new texture anyway |
| 00:40.45 | Osstia|mac | Is there a tool available that would allow be to view the built in textures? |
| 00:40.56 | Osstia|mac | Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Bag_10_Blue |
| 00:40.59 | Osstia|mac | stuff like that |
| 00:40.59 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: and nothing? |
| 00:41.26 | Zhinjio | yeah, same error message about "No Trades from Guild available" |
| 00:41.29 | Orionshock | was afraid of this... gona need to get a 2nd client myself |
| 00:41.33 | Zhinjio | maybe I'm doing something fundamental wrong |
| 00:41.41 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: try reloading UI after publishing |
| 00:41.48 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 00:42.18 | Zhinjio | just reloaded on both clients |
| 00:42.21 | Zhinjio | standby |
| 00:43.01 | Orionshock | ... |
| 00:43.06 | Zhinjio | nope |
| 00:43.13 | Orionshock | was afraid of that |
| 00:43.18 | Orionshock | what local are you in? |
| 00:43.22 | Zhinjio | enUS |
| 00:43.31 | Zhinjio | Hellscream/US |
| 00:45.27 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: you updated right? |
| 00:45.32 | Zhinjio | checking to see what actually got saved in the SV |
| 00:45.44 | Zhinjio | yes, I did, from the zip. should I have taken it from the svn instead? |
| 00:45.52 | Orionshock | ya pull from the svn |
| 00:45.54 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 00:46.05 | Orionshock | ..zips for minor changes is too annoying :P |
| 00:47.35 | Zhinjio | ok, lemme setup a user on the svn so I can just pull it directly |
| 00:48.51 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 00:48.58 | Zhinjio | just deleted and pulling down again |
| 00:49.06 | Osstia|mac | Okay, next question if anyoe can help. I want to put a few buttons on a frame that would look similar to the action bar, or a bag slot where I can drop items |
| 00:50.06 | Osstia|mac | any recommendation on an addon that might have an example f this? or a template I could look at? |
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| 00:50.29 | Zhinjio | reloading... standby |
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| 00:51.47 | Zhinjio | ook, now I'm getting some GC-comm messages about updates, lkemme get stuff published again |
| 00:52.20 | Orionshock | ya debug |
| 00:53.18 | Zhinjio | ok, now it comes up. |
| 00:53.51 | Zhinjio | should the GCB show who can make it? |
| 00:53.53 | Zhinjio | *grin* |
| 00:53.59 | Orionshock | eventualy |
| 00:54.14 | Orionshock | the tt will be pushed further down and it'll have a text box there with who can make it |
| 00:55.23 | Zhinjio | makes sense. |
| 00:55.47 | Orionshock | other wise the db would be a crap ton smaller |
| 00:56.16 | Zhinjio | this is just... well, I've been looking for something to replace GuildAds for along time. |
| 00:56.24 | Zhinjio | GuildAds is code from ass. |
| 00:57.54 | Zhinjio | so, my general thinking, despite what you said, is that all recipes should be published by default... but to give people the ability (perhaps on the browser side) to filter the list in various ways |
| 00:58.07 | Orionshock | add in about maybe 30lines of code to handle regular chat channels and it can pull from anywhere |
| 00:58.13 | Zhinjio | by difficulty, for example, would be good, since it would let you exclude/include outland recipes very easily |
| 00:58.34 | Zhinjio | have you ever seen GuildAds? |
| 00:58.45 | Orionshock | no easy way to do that with out expanding the db table out like a bitch |
| 00:58.53 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 00:59.39 | Orionshock | if it's something easily identifiable on the tooltip or with GetItemInfo() you have a better chance |
| 00:59.47 | Zhinjio | you could do a simple text filter, like putting in "Gloves" for filtering Enchant Gloves out of the list |
| 01:00.00 | Zhinjio | that isn't DB based. |
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| 01:01.48 | Orionshock | the onlything that is passed between clients is a simple table of {["TradeSkill"] = { ID = true, ...}, ...} |
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| 01:01.57 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 01:02.12 | Zhinjio | for filtering, I mean on the browser side. |
| 01:02.15 | Orionshock | anything like preferance, and vendor recipies, and prebc/tbc ect has to come from the client |
| 01:02.20 | Zhinjio | not prior to passing, after |
| 01:02.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.44 | Zhinjio | yes. agreed |
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| 01:04.47 | break19 | someone break the interwebz server? |
| 01:04.59 | Orionshock | do a [[ string.find(name, searchstring)]] on it |
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| 01:06.15 | break19 | weirdness.. www.wowace.com fails to load, however, wowace.com loads fine.. someone's DNS server is fubar |
| 01:07.02 | Silowyi | yup |
| 01:07.10 | Silowyi | dig www.wowace.com returns rootserver list |
| 01:07.33 | break19 | Silowyi: I use OpenDNS, not my ISP's... i already have that info :p |
| 01:07.45 | Silowyi | hehe |
| 01:08.47 | break19 | 3 of the 4 servers were failing.. servers seem to be up now, however the server still is acting weird. |
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| 01:09.13 | break19 | ns[1,2,3,4].mydomain.com are the nameservers for wowace.com |
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| 01:09.45 | potemkin | would it be better to make a timer using onupdate or schedulerepeatingevent? |
| 01:09.54 | Daemona | wow europe got dns problems too |
| 01:10.01 | Arrowmaster | failure at using domain registars dns |
| 01:10.16 | Daemona | adding http://pastey.net/79764 to your hosts file enables you to login again ... |
| 01:10.20 | Daemona | ... they fubar'd |
| 01:10.28 | break19 | wow, looks like someone might have broke the whole internet. heh |
| 01:10.37 | Daemona | conspiracy ! |
| 01:12.13 | break19 | its the CIA.. disrupting the internet to foil terrorist plots by disrupting their communications.. I mean.. everyone knows the terrorists (who supposedly HATE western ideas) are using the internet to talk (which... was a western idea.. developed by the US military in the 60s) weird. |
| 01:16.17 | Fisker- | BEEP BEEP |
| 01:16.20 | Fisker- | I'M AN ALARM CLOCK |
| 01:17.05 | Osstia|mac | ummmmm |
| 01:18.13 | break19 | heh. thanks Daemona, you gave me an idea.. *resolves wowace.com to find the IP, and adds it to his /etc/hosts file as www.wowace.com* yay, I have webbage! |
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| 01:21.15 | Arrowmaster | break19: you said you use opendns and mydomain.com nameservers were listed for wowace? |
| 01:21.49 | break19 | Arrowmaster: ya |
| 01:21.54 | Arrowmaster | check your shit |
| 01:22.07 | break19 | -my- shit? heh, it aint mine |
| 01:22.08 | Arrowmaster | im using opendns too and see wowace using google dns |
| 01:22.15 | break19 | weird |
| 01:22.42 | Arrowmaster | and for me wowace.com and www.wowace.com have the same ip |
| 01:22.56 | Arrowmaster | flush dns and try again |
| 01:23.22 | xyu | do DNSes flush counterclockwise in australia? |
| 01:24.01 | Pkekyo| | don't you just love it when blood starts gushing out of you for no reason? :9 |
| 01:24.03 | break19 | well, its working now anyway, even after removing (commenting) my hosts file |
| 01:24.03 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 01:24.12 | Arrowmaster | er woops |
| 01:24.14 | Arrowmaster | typo |
| 01:24.31 | Arrowmaster | i queryed mail servers instead of dns servers |
| 01:25.45 | break19 | heh |
| 01:25.49 | Osstia|mac | hehe |
| 01:27.08 | Arrowmaster | ok this time i send individual queries directly to each name server for www.wowace.com and each gave me an A record with the same ip |
| 01:28.02 | Arrowmaster | responses came directly from ns1-4.mydomain.com so it has to be a local problem |
| 01:28.13 | break19 | Arrowmaster: as I said, its working now, must've just been a glitch with odns |
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| 01:46.08 | neoaeon | I'm having a problem with Cartographer Waypoints (detailed here http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9667.msg155291#msg155291). In the 10-5 yard range my arrow disapears, could anyone help me out w/ a command line to print the variable so I can see what it currently is? |
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| 01:48.08 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r57658 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: add pending gold amount to summary |
| 01:50.10 | Orionshock | string.match(strlower(info.name), strlower(search)) |
| 01:50.28 | Orionshock | anyone see why that would return nil when both values are known to be matchable |
| 01:51.03 | Fin | Arrowmaster: wowace.com's DNS provider is flaky as fuck |
| 01:51.29 | Fin | if info.name == search |
| 01:51.48 | Arrowmaster | like i said earlyer, domain registar provided dns servers = fail |
| 01:52.17 | Fin | actually no, not on string.match |
| 01:53.51 | Graawr | whois doing wowdb.com? |
| 02:00.28 | Kalroth | looks curse'ish |
| 02:00.48 | Graawr | yeah, i found like at www.wowace.com/files - in the lower right bottom :P |
| 02:04.54 | thul | dingx2:P |
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| 02:07.12 | Osstia|mac | anyone have a few minutes to tell me why I am stupid? |
| 02:07.58 | exor674 | Osstia|mac: because 2+2 = 3? |
| 02:08.14 | aestil | Osstia|mac: you need us to tell you that? |
| 02:08.17 | aestil | ok. |
| 02:08.21 | thul | Osstia|mac: genes |
| 02:08.23 | thul | enviroment |
| 02:08.26 | Osstia|mac | hahaha |
| 02:08.34 | Osstia|mac | I'm going with genes on this one |
| 02:08.36 | Osstia|mac | http://osstia-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/farmTracker/FarmTracker.lua |
| 02:08.50 | Osstia|mac | I am trying to add a second frame |
| 02:08.54 | aestil | Osstia|mac: your mother drank and smoked excessively while you were a fe |
| 02:08.57 | aestil | tus |
| 02:08.59 | aestil | ? |
| 02:09.02 | Silowyi | hey on Kael |
| 02:09.03 | Osstia|mac | I have a button that shows/hides this new frame |
| 02:09.09 | Silowyi | do you ahve to set the loot on free for all or not? |
| 02:09.14 | Silowyi | for the weapons |
| 02:09.29 | aestil | Silowyi: i don't think so. |
| 02:09.33 | Osstia|mac | no, my parents don't drink. gotta be genes |
| 02:10.16 | Kalroth | Did your brother/sisters ever watch over you? And how often did they drop you? |
| 02:10.32 | Osstia|mac | yes they did, but not sure how many times i was dropped |
| 02:10.45 | Osstia|mac | one too many would be my guess |
| 02:10.58 | Kalroth | Well you're on a Mac, so .. :P |
| 02:10.59 | thul | hahaha, my little brother, when he was like 1-2-3 somewhere, was standing in a chair, holding the back of it and jumping in it (springy chair) |
| 02:11.14 | thul | he got a directional push from the chair and did a half summersault to the floor and landed on the top of his head:p |
| 02:11.15 | Osstia|mac | damn |
| 02:11.21 | Kalroth | ow |
| 02:11.58 | thul | it was while he still had a soft scull, so the imploding skull took most of the energy of the fall, that said: that shows still today :-P |
| 02:12.02 | Osstia|mac | Now that the fact that I am stupid, and the cause is one of many possibilities, would anyone be willing to look at my shitty code and tell me what I did wrong |
| 02:12.12 | Osstia|mac | thats sad thul |
| 02:13.02 | thul | well, he is a bright kid still, so I don't think he got mentally hurt:P |
| 02:13.06 | thul | but the bump in his head remains :-D |
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| 02:32.39 | thul | hmm, I have a weird software situation here :-P |
| 02:33.12 | osstia | is this where i make fn of you and laugh at you? |
| 02:34.47 | thul | mhm |
| 02:34.56 | osstia | Whats your issue? |
| 02:34.57 | thul | my new mouse hangs my macbook when i have steer mouse installed |
| 02:35.02 | thul | it is so weird |
| 02:35.44 | osstia | never used steer mouse on my macbook |
| 02:37.24 | osstia | are you seeing anything in the system logs? |
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| 02:40.50 | thul | hmm, no, that is the weird part, it just hard locks. |
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| 02:42.51 | osstia | version osstia |
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| 02:50.48 | Antiarc | Ugh. I think I'm getting sick. |
| 02:51.02 | Antiarc | My wife'ss been sick for almost the past two weeks with a hell of an upper respiratory infection |
| 02:51.07 | Antiarc | And I think I caught it. >_< |
| 02:52.18 | osstia | thats no good |
| 02:53.23 | Fisker- | you mean a cold? :O |
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| 02:58.38 | Graawr | How can you catch an infection from someone? |
| 02:58.58 | Fisker- | by raping you |
| 02:59.08 | Graawr | How intelligent |
| 02:59.28 | Fisker- | Why thank you |
| 02:59.53 | Graawr | You obviously have been saving that comment for someone special, something that took more than two years to make up shouldn't be misused :) |
| 03:00.05 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 03:00.23 | osstia | rape != funny |
| 03:00.42 | osstia | even for me, and I am wildly inappropriate most of the time |
| 03:02.49 | thul | i stand by my principle: everything can be funny. |
| 03:02.51 | thul | it is all about timing :-P |
| 03:02.53 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 03:03.18 | Fisker- | I don't consider timing a big issue |
| 03:03.36 | Graawr | :p |
| 03:03.39 | thul | haha |
| 03:03.42 | Graawr | Knock knock |
| 03:03.55 | thul | who's there? |
| 03:03.59 | Graawr | ur mom |
| 03:04.02 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 03:04.04 | Fisker- | i was about to write that |
| 03:04.23 | Antiarc | I'd assume it's a virus-caused infection |
| 03:04.27 | Stan_ | Graawr: me, I kill you |
| 03:04.42 | Stan_ | would have been the correct answer |
| 03:06.46 | thul | SILENCE |
| 03:07.05 | Fisker- | beep beep |
| 03:07.08 | Fisker- | i'm an alarm clock |
| 03:07.15 | Graawr | Ah alright, so I just though of an infection was something like getting your leg sliced, open wound etc :p |
| 03:07.34 | Graawr | And then failing to clean it up properly |
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| 03:07.40 | Graawr | Resident Evil style |
| 03:07.45 | Graawr | But I hope for you its not that kind ;D |
| 03:09.38 | Stan_ | thul: I KILL YOU! |
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| 03:14.51 | thul | INFIDEL |
| 03:16.34 | Stan_ | thul: have you seen the new christmas video? |
| 03:18.27 | thul | nopes? |
| 03:18.28 | thul | good? |
| 03:18.59 | Stan_ | it's ok |
| 03:19.04 | Stan_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=QzzhM5e5bU8 |
| 03:26.25 | [AR]Camci | yo |
| 03:26.33 | [AR]Camci | is it engineers who can make this big fireworks? |
| 03:26.43 | [AR]Camci | like shown in here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQAtt01XX8 |
| 03:28.03 | thul | haha, it was fun Stan_ :-P |
| 03:30.27 | Fisker- | [AR]Camci that's the chinese new year event |
| 03:30.38 | Fisker- | or maybe not |
| 03:31.05 | Stan_ | ^^ |
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| 03:31.31 | [AR]Camci | ^^ |
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| 03:33.39 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw |
| 03:51.13 | MattWK | hey |
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| 03:52.28 | MattWK | anyone know of a addon that lets you chat to people in different realms ? |
| 03:55.38 | dylanm | Can't be done. |
| 03:56.15 | dylanm | Unless you take "AOL Instant Messenger" as a valid answer. |
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| 04:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | or irc. |
| 04:06.10 | exor674 | MattWK: always be in battlegronds and only have friends in your battlegroup :P |
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| 04:35.53 | MattWK | someone should right one :/ |
| 04:39.19 | exor674 | not possible |
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| 04:41.19 | MattWK | can u be in battle4 grps with people in idfferent relams ? |
| 04:41.25 | MattWK | exor674 ? |
| 04:43.32 | Hjalte | MattWK: Your server is part of a battlegroup, when joining battlegrounds from your server, people from every server in your battlegroup can be in the battleground. |
| 04:44.02 | exor674 | and you CAN talk to people in the same battleground as long as yo are IN one |
| 04:47.18 | MattWK | i mean can you organize one ? |
| 04:49.35 | Lukian | MattWK, using WoW forums, yes. |
| 04:49.48 | Lukian | or even irc! |
| 04:53.24 | chiper | he's just such a big target. part me says "It's too easy, just let it pass." |
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| 04:53.35 | rronkiv | hey everyone :P |
| 05:05.45 | chiper | blizz should've made the goblin airport one of the ways to get to northrend |
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| 05:22.25 | MattWK | oh |
| 05:22.42 | MattWK | so u have to say join "artec valley 13" on both servers? |
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| 05:27.59 | Xinhuan | anyone has engineering here |
| 05:28.02 | Xinhuan | and extracts gas |
| 05:28.22 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio |
| 05:28.44 | MattWK | i do |
| 05:28.57 | Xinhuan | how many types of gas can be extracted? |
| 05:32.19 | MattWK | air |
| 05:32.34 | Stanzilla | shadow |
| 05:32.36 | Stanzilla | mana |
| 05:33.16 | Xinhuan | is motes of life extractable from any cloud? |
| 05:35.30 | exor674 | but dude, don't JUST use a battleground to talk to your friends |
| 05:35.38 | exor674 | or I *will* set you on fire |
| 05:38.34 | Kivin | don't suppose there's an ace alternative to Auctioneer |
| 05:39.03 | Antiarc | There aren't really any alternatives to Auctioneer |
| 05:39.11 | Kivin | didn't think so |
| 05:40.22 | Antiarc | Haha, wow |
| 05:40.23 | Antiarc | http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2007/12/28/4744047-ap.html |
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| 05:41.01 | Xuerian | There is no way to set the border edge size in eep2, is there... |
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| 05:46.55 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57659 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua: Cartographer_ExtractGas: Reverted most of the changes that cwdg did that broke the addon. |
| 05:46.55 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57660 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/: Cartographer_ExtractGas: Add a tsvn:logtemplate which forces translators that do breaking updates to update to the latest revision first. |
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| 06:05.59 | Thrae | Ack! January 1st is not Monday! I might have to work. |
| 06:09.48 | khangg | =( |
| 06:12.09 | NightHawkTheSane | tell me about it >< |
| 06:14.26 | Arrowmaster | i had a class on january 2nd last year, it sucked too since it ment i had to get on a plane on the 1st to fly back |
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| 06:20.45 | tekcub | so question... |
| 06:20.53 | tekcub | TourGuide, Shadowmoon... |
| 06:20.57 | tekcub | any point in streamlining it? |
| 06:21.04 | tekcub | by the time the player gets there, they should be 70 |
| 06:21.18 | tekcub | which means flying mount... easy travel |
| 06:21.21 | Xinhuan | include it for completeness sake |
| 06:21.27 | tekcub | I'm working on it |
| 06:21.33 | tekcub | but noone's written a guide |
| 06:21.46 | Xinhuan | some people skip BEM and Netherstorm |
| 06:21.53 | Xinhuan | and just do SMV to 70 |
| 06:22.01 | tekcub | so I have the chains, but no streamlining (mixing the chains together to cover "normal" travel routes |
| 06:22.34 | Xinhuan | its pretty hard since there is quite a few quest hubs |
| 06:22.54 | Xinhuan | and one is scryer-only and one is aldor-only |
| 06:22.57 | tekcub | yea it's all kinda runaround in circles |
| 06:23.08 | tekcub | scryers and aldor seem to share the same quests |
| 06:23.15 | tekcub | much like how horde and ally do |
| 06:23.25 | tekcub | diff questgivers, same objectives |
| 06:23.27 | Thelyna | yeah, the quests are mostly the same |
| 06:23.36 | Xinhuan | still its slightly different, at least the route is |
| 06:24.07 | tekcub | don't know of a guide anywhere do ya? |
| 06:24.08 | Kivin | Anyone know if it's possible to look back farther using the API in the guild vault logs than the standard UI allows you? |
| 06:24.17 | Xinhuan | Kivin, no |
| 06:24.18 | tekcub | kopp's is ~ 1/4 of the zone |
| 06:24.20 | Xinhuan | 25 is the max |
| 06:24.21 | Kivin | D: |
| 06:24.23 | Kivin | that's retarded |
| 06:24.29 | Thelyna | not off the top of my head tekkub |
| 06:24.30 | tekcub | Jame's doesn't touch it at all |
| 06:24.33 | Xinhuan | if you want a full log, go wowarmory.com and login |
| 06:24.38 | Kivin | Ohhh |
| 06:24.38 | tekcub | Joana's.... ick |
| 06:24.40 | Xinhuan | on your guild page |
| 06:24.40 | Kivin | Okay |
| 06:24.41 | Thelyna | I could try writing one when I take my hunter there in a couple weeks |
| 06:24.47 | Kivin | thanks |
| 06:24.52 | Xinhuan | that full log - i warn you - can have 100k entries |
| 06:25.04 | Xinhuan | even all the 1 copper donations |
| 06:26.07 | Thelyna | "Character Data Awaiting Refresh" ... hm. I logged into that character about two hours ago :o |
| 06:26.27 | Kivin | Indeed, i've got that as well |
| 06:26.34 | Kivin | Blizz sure is good at breaking the armory |
| 06:28.10 | Kivin | Think I might need to write a script that queries the vault logs without me physically going to the site |
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| 06:29.34 | tekcub | yea, Joana's Shadowmoon is... braf |
| 06:29.37 | tekcub | *barf |
| 06:30.30 | Xinhuan | its doable, but not simple |
| 06:30.42 | Xinhuan | since it requires you to login, hence you need to maintain the cookies |
| 06:30.59 | Synteur | hmm, any idea why my game hangs whenever i hit a mining node? has only started since installing cartographer 15 minutes ago >.> |
| 06:31.10 | Xinhuan | you can only see your own guild's vaults |
| 06:31.19 | Kivin | Of course |
| 06:31.21 | Xinhuan | and only if you have the ingame permissions |
| 06:31.35 | Xinhuan | Synteur, no idea |
| 06:32.34 | Synteur | disabled data sharing, i'm clueless as to what's up :( |
| 06:32.43 | Xinhuan | cartographer doesn't mess with mining nodes |
| 06:32.53 | Xinhuan | only Cartographer_Mining does |
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| 06:36.18 | chexsum | its so funny falling sasleep in the middle of an instance |
| 06:36.26 | chexsum | i cant even remember going to bed |
| 06:38.14 | Arrowmaster | last time i can remember doing that was while waiting for nef to respawn |
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| 06:41.31 | thecookie | ~seen sole |
| 06:41.33 | purl | sole <n=chatzill@118-92-14-211.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 5h 29m 35s ago, saying: 'anybody else not like the fact that all the libraries are seperate addons now =\'. |
| 06:41.39 | thecookie | How failf of me |
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| 06:59.34 | vithos | why does Threat-1.0 not wipe threat when Twin Emps teleport :( qq |
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| 07:03.27 | exor674 | vithos: probably because there's no code in Threat-1.0 for handling AQ40? :P |
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| 07:19.36 | vithos | damn it. the teleport timers in bigwigs only last like one teleport too |
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| 07:25.15 | Xinhuan | been like that since bigwigs creation |
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| 08:10.40 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57661 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Remove random vestigial global pollution, redundant table creation. |
| 08:14.26 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r57662 10OpenAll/OpenAll.toc: OpenAll: AddonLoader. |
| 08:21.16 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: try that, almost feature complete w/o the search box :P |
| 08:26.40 | Zhinjio | whoa, just happened to glance up.... |
| 08:26.51 | Orionshock | :P |
| 08:26.55 | Zhinjio | ok, lemme go get the newest. |
| 08:26.58 | Zhinjio | zip or svn? |
| 08:27.02 | Orionshock | svn bau |
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| 08:30.47 | Zhinjio | bah, need to restart |
| 08:30.50 | Orionshock | wrt the search box, ya ... not going to happen :P |
| 08:31.47 | Orionshock | i don't think the tree widget was designed to do what im using it for -.- but nothing else fits the role atm :\ |
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| 08:32.08 | Thrae | OK, let's see here...need to redo UI from scratch... |
| 08:32.19 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 08:32.36 | Orionshock | Thrae: try defaults, it's the best and most afficent |
| 08:32.49 | Thrae | Orionshock: I didn't become an addon author to use the default UI |
| 08:32.56 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:33.15 | Orionshock | try the ace3 branches of a bunch of stuff |
| 08:33.23 | Orionshock | ag_uf, mapster, betterinbox |
| 08:33.32 | Orionshock | don't think bt4 is functional yet |
| 08:33.36 | Thrae | I need a Bar Mod, for one |
| 08:33.38 | Thrae | Damn |
| 08:34.05 | Orionshock | wtb GuildWarning channel |
| 08:34.19 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.43 | Zhinjio | ok, loading up now |
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| 08:37.32 | Zhinjio | yeah, something ain't right |
| 08:37.59 | Zhinjio | one toon, everything comes up ok, the other one, /gcb made Ace-3 throw an error |
| 08:38.04 | sdouble | sucks when someone is asking to group with you and you say, "br?" then they start speaking portuguese |
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| 08:38.26 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: what error? |
| 08:38.49 | Zhinjio | AceGUI-3.0\QceGUI-3.0.lua: 214: attempt to index local 'child' (a nil value) |
| 08:38.58 | Zhinjio | minus the typo |
| 08:39.38 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 08:40.26 | Zhinjio | was there anything added or subtracted since I last updated, because everything looks pretty much the same. |
| 08:40.40 | Orionshock | ya i added a gui widget |
| 08:41.20 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what that implies, exactly |
| 08:41.43 | Orionshock | reload your client, i touched the toc |
| 08:42.04 | Zhinjio | redownload? |
| 08:42.18 | Zhinjio | oh, I did full reloads, yeah |
| 08:42.29 | Zhinjio | lemme go all the way out to make sure. |
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| 08:45.31 | Zhinjio | ok, everything is fully reset. |
| 08:45.36 | Zhinjio | loaded up now. |
| 08:48.22 | Civrock | Any addons on wowace that make minimap buttons freely movable? |
| 08:48.35 | Zhinjio | Refresh looks good |
| 08:49.35 | Zhinjio | I'm thinking the space allotted for the list of recipes should be a bit wider ... nearly every recipoe is chopped off |
| 08:49.39 | Zhinjio | especially enchants |
| 08:49.46 | Zhinjio | and, you've got plenty of room |
| 08:50.02 | Zhinjio | the tooltips are taking up .... shy of 2/3 the space on the right |
| 08:50.21 | Orionshock | well Zhinjio that's not going to happen :( |
| 08:50.57 | Kivin | I've done a complete rewrite of most of my addon's code... I'm thinking I should just delete the addon folder from the trunk and do a fresh import; is there any bad implication of doing this? |
| 08:51.36 | Zhinjio | Orion: ?? |
| 08:51.46 | Orionshock | width is locked to what it is... |
| 08:51.58 | Orionshock | and if i touch it then Nargiddley will be angry with me :\ |
| 08:53.19 | Zhinjio | oooook then |
| 08:53.34 | Orionshock | i think... i'll look into it later |
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| 08:54.50 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57663 10KivinLootzor/: Removed file/folder |
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| 08:56.50 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57664 10KivinLootzor/ (15 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:56.50 | CIA-8 | KivinLootzor: |
| 08:56.50 | CIA-8 | - Complete rewrite of the database. |
| 08:56.50 | CIA-8 | - Corrected handling of unsafe item links to prevent disconnects. |
| 08:56.50 | CIA-8 | - Added season 2/3, non-set s3, and several outland loot tables. |
| 08:56.57 | RaydenUni | i need to read some stuff on warrior dual wield vs 2hand weapon |
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| 08:57.19 | Kivin | RaydenUni: What exactly did you need to know |
| 08:57.26 | Zhinjio | semi-daily call for folks to review my code and tell me how bad a coder I am. http://geo.trippy.org/SKG/SKG_5.02.zip ... feedback at blog site: http://skg.trippy.org/ |
| 08:57.58 | RaydenUni | if i have an 18dps and 16dps weapons for duel weild, how much dps should a 2H be to compare? |
| 08:58.34 | Kivin | Oh my... maybe two thirds of the combination? |
| 08:58.52 | RaydenUni | i know off hand misses 10% of the time or something like that |
| 08:58.58 | RaydenUni | or does 90% of the dps |
| 08:59.05 | Kivin | your dual wielding will collectively miss ~24% of the time, on average |
| 08:59.12 | Kivin | and your offhand will do 50% less damage |
| 08:59.25 | Kivin | unless you talent it, which i think removes half the penalty for a total of 75% normal dmg |
| 09:00.27 | RaydenUni | 2H misses what %? and does 100%dmg i would assume |
| 09:00.59 | Kivin | 7% vs a like enemy |
| 09:01.08 | Kivin | 9% vs a raid boss |
| 09:03.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Kivin: depends on the class's talent for DW spec |
| 09:04.04 | RaydenUni | so 18dps and 16dps duel weild means i should be looking at 24dps + for 2H? |
| 09:04.06 | NightHawkTheSane | warriors can talent up to 62.5% normal damage, rogues can talent up to 75% normal damage |
| 09:04.16 | Kivin | sounds right RaydenUni |
| 09:04.18 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57665 10KivinLootzor/: KivinLootzor: Added Rock Externals. |
| 09:04.19 | NightHawkTheSane | and shaman cannot talent up OH damage at all |
| 09:04.45 | Kivin | NightHawkTheSane: Do you know for certain that it's multiplicative and not additive? |
| 09:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, reasonably certain |
| 09:05.19 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 09:05.23 | RaydenUni | well nothing even close on the AH |
| 09:05.25 | Kivin | hmm that's odd; most of what blizzard does is additive |
| 09:05.27 | RaydenUni | so i'll keep my mace and dagger |
| 09:05.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I could be wrong, but last I knew thats how it was |
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| 09:06.00 | Kivin | rayden just ride out whatever you've got until you are able to talent the skill improved slam, then get a slow two-hander |
| 09:06.44 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: imo, pick either 2h, or dw, then just stick with it. it doesn't really matter that much until you get to 70 :P |
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| 09:26.08 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, do you use bankitems? |
| 09:26.23 | Orionshock | yes |
| 09:26.29 | Xinhuan | do you use tekkompare? |
| 09:26.39 | Orionshock | yes |
| 09:26.46 | Orionshock | and yes they work |
| 09:26.55 | Xinhuan | ok hold on |
| 09:27.22 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10594.0 |
| 09:27.25 | Xinhuan | can you read this post |
| 09:27.32 | Xinhuan | and tell me if the issue exists for you |
| 09:27.38 | Xinhuan | because i am unable to reproduce his issue |
| 09:28.06 | Xinhuan | and i am perfectly aware of how often my code gets called (my code gets called exactly once per hover tooltip) |
| 09:28.58 | Xinhuan | i have yet to see OptionHouse ever report BankItems cpu/sec usage to be above 1 |
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| 09:36.18 | Orionshock | ...well like most things Xinhuan he's not telling you the whole truth |
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| 09:38.47 | Xinhuan | well Orionshock |
| 09:38.52 | Xinhuan | do you have the same problem? |
| 09:39.01 | Xinhuan | as it stands i cannot reproduce any of it |
| 09:39.09 | Orionshock | same |
| 09:39.39 | Xinhuan | post a reply for me too :) |
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| 09:41.15 | syeren | Hmm, could I get a little help X_x |
| 09:41.20 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 09:41.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 09:41.25 | syeren | Pfft. |
| 09:41.26 | syeren | SendChatMessage("CS LANDED ON "..target.." 's "..spell,"PARTY"); |
| 09:41.36 | syeren | How do I send that to a Raid Warning. |
| 09:41.49 | Kivin | change "PARTY" to whatever the raidwarn channel is called |
| 09:42.04 | syeren | >_< |
| 09:42.08 | syeren | Need to find out then! |
| 09:42.11 | Kivin | It'll be on wowwiki.com |
| 09:42.23 | Kivin | look up the sendchatmessage api in the search box |
| 09:43.25 | Kivin | Sends a chat message of the specified in 'msg' (ex. "Hey!"), to the system specified in 'system' ("SAY", "WHISPER", "EMOTE", "CHANNEL", "PARTY", "BATTLEGROUND", "GUILD", "OFFICER", "YELL", "RAID", "RAID_WARNING", "AFK", "DND"), |
| 09:44.00 | syeren | Much love Kivin :) |
| 09:44.09 | Kivin | ^^ |
| 09:44.19 | syeren | Playing around with a super broken addon \o/ |
| 09:44.24 | Kivin | D: |
| 09:44.33 | syeren | Keeps track of CS / Spell lock even if you don't have the enemy targetted and stuff ;D |
| 09:44.39 | syeren | Kind of broke for arena purposes ;p |
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| 09:48.46 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, do me a favour, reply and say you have no such issues! |
| 09:48.54 | Orionshock | what what? |
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| 09:49.00 | Orionshock | that would help your case... |
| 09:49.03 | Orionshock | no i can't do that :P |
| 09:49.05 | Xinhuan | exactly! |
| 09:49.12 | Orionshock | besides im mid raid as leader so tsol for a while |
| 09:52.05 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 09:52.08 | Xinhuan | help me! |
| 09:53.07 | Kalroth | I'm going to reply and say I got the exact same issues and that I hate you for it. |
| 09:53.27 | Kalroth | You've ruined my WoW experience and I'm going to cancel my account, take that Blizzard! |
| 09:55.26 | Kalroth | Maybe that dude should list which addons he's using, it would be easier to spot an offending addon. |
| 09:56.07 | Kalroth | He says "only BankItems, tekKompare & OptionHouse running", but is it enough to disable addons at the character selection? |
| 09:56.16 | Kivin | Sure be, yes |
| 09:57.04 | Kalroth | Even if you log in first with 30+ addons running, log out to character screen, disable everything but the 3 and then log in again? |
| 09:57.25 | Xinhuan | yes it is enough to do just that |
| 09:57.32 | Xinhuan | what he described on his final test on his lvl 10 |
| 09:57.34 | Xinhuan | is perfectly normal |
| 09:57.47 | Xinhuan | he has an intefering addon, usually a bag mod |
| 09:57.58 | Xinhuan | that does :SetHyperlink on every frame |
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| 10:14.52 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57666 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: - Fixed bug that could cause looting money to get stuck "in progress" on a high ping. |
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| 10:39.10 | Xinhuan | i hate this honor update lag |
| 10:39.12 | Xinhuan | zzz |
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| 10:46.15 | Orionshock | there Xinhuan i posted :P |
| 10:46.19 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 10:46.32 | Xinhuan | wiping on trash b4 kael right now lol |
| 10:46.35 | Xinhuan | cos honor decided to update |
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| 12:19.05 | Orionshock | is there a easy way to tell if some one has loged in? |
| 12:19.43 | Ripdog | in what? irc or wow? |
| 12:19.49 | Orionshock | wow |
| 12:19.55 | Xinhuan | /who |
| 12:20.04 | Orionshock | like guild login |
| 12:20.34 | Ripdog | i get guild login info automatically =\ i thought it was standard |
| 12:20.34 | Elkano | the chat message for a joining friend/guildmate? |
| 12:20.52 | Elkano | though you must have it enabled in options |
| 12:21.00 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 12:21.23 | Fisker- | Xinhuan |
| 12:21.30 | Fisker- | didn't you make Cartographer_Fishing? |
| 12:21.32 | Xinhuan | no |
| 12:21.37 | Xinhuan | i made _Routes |
| 12:21.38 | thul | NO! |
| 12:21.43 | Fisker- | i know that >O |
| 12:21.44 | Fisker- | :O |
| 12:21.52 | Ripdog | wow, i just saw you on the wow forums |
| 12:21.55 | Ripdog | i must be special |
| 12:22.17 | Fisker- | then i'll just hate you Xinhuan :( |
| 12:22.29 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 12:22.38 | Fisker- | i need data for mah fishing |
| 12:22.58 | Xinhuan | so start fishing ;d |
| 12:23.29 | Xinhuan | you must hover your mouse on the node, not someliferoot or it can't record it |
| 12:23.42 | Fisker- | i hate you :( |
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| 12:56.52 | Orionshock | humm.... |
| 12:57.07 | Orionshock | get tomtom and stay with mapster or just go back to cartographer .... |
| 12:57.33 | Ripdog | convo resurrection +1 |
| 12:57.47 | Orionshock | ? |
| 12:58.14 | Ripdog | that conversation ended like ages ago |
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| 12:58.50 | dan-g | Anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot an issue with Buffalo2? :D |
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| 13:01.05 | dan-g | Specifically... it doesn't hide the blizzard buffs for weapons (windfury, wizard oil, etc). I have Pitbull installed as well, and it works when I have one or the other but not both. there a setting that I can tweak to fix it that anyone know of? |
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| 13:05.56 | Polarina | Fisker-: gains the debuff Mistiltoe! |
| 13:07.35 | Fisker- | ATLEAST I HAS MONEYS |
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| 13:08.13 | Polarina | :'( |
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| 13:09.17 | what-K | hi all i have a question i look for an timer addon for bgs can someone help me ? |
| 13:09.31 | Ripdog | Capping? |
| 13:09.46 | Polarina | what-K: What battleground? |
| 13:09.47 | Ripdog | does timers for flag respawns, towers and shizzle |
| 13:10.06 | what-K | for all avs |
| 13:10.22 | Ripdog | Capping should do what you want |
| 13:10.49 | what-K | thx |
| 13:10.50 | Ripdog | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Capping |
| 13:12.52 | Fisker- | Capping = massive win |
| 13:12.59 | Ripdog | verily |
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| 13:29.37 | Dezzimal | Shaman> Hey does JUICE need any shamans? |
| 13:30.06 | Dezzimal | Me> Probably a better idea to just apply than to go around asking if a guild needs any certain class. |
| 13:30.12 | Dezzimal | Shaman> I hate putting in apps though. |
| 13:30.23 | Dezzimal | Me> I'm sure you'll have an easy time finding a guild if you hate applying to them then. |
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| 13:31.14 | Lukian | Dezzimal, I agree partially with him :p |
| 13:31.18 | Keias | I'm sure plenty of guilds want a lazy Shaman! |
| 13:31.28 | Lukian | if your app form isn't fun, what fun am I going to have in your guild? :D |
| 13:31.51 | Lukian | and on another note, I shouldn't have to fill in a 'job application' to join a guild |
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| 13:35.24 | Keias | With all the idiots that run rampant on WoW, an application or interview is pretty much a required process if you want to not be annoyed. |
| 13:35.33 | Azurewrath | well, how would you filter out non-fitting players otherwise? |
| 13:35.38 | Lukian | interview is fine :D |
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| 13:36.40 | dan-g | if the guild is a progression guild, you'll be expected to actually put forth effort... and if you can't put forth the effort to apply, why would they think you're gonna put forth the effort in raids? |
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| 13:37.39 | nevcairiel | yeah, we expect any applicant to write a application, doesnt have to be perfect, but outlining the players knowledge of the game is good, or we spend so much time asking all the shit every time again :( |
| 13:38.06 | renchap | ls |
| 13:38.09 | renchap | oops |
| 13:39.33 | Dezzimal | basically the application is how our guild ensures that we have fun |
| 13:39.40 | Dezzimal | raiding with idiots isn't fun |
| 13:40.14 | Dezzimal | if you wanna have fun raiding with us take the 10-20 minutes it takes to throw us some info about why you'd fit |
| 13:40.15 | dan-g | no kidding |
| 13:40.39 | Lukian | hehe :) |
| 13:40.44 | Lukian | good plan Dezzimal |
| 13:40.58 | Dezzimal | we're #1 on the server so we can be dicks/picky about them too |
| 13:42.39 | Lukian | haha indeed |
| 13:43.21 | Ravagernl | omg tusken helm is a blue item now? |
| 13:43.25 | Ravagernl | I thought it was green |
| 13:43.30 | Dezzimal | yep lol |
| 13:47.04 | Keias | First thing my guild's always checked for is spelling and grammar. |
| 13:47.11 | dan-g | haha |
| 13:47.20 | Keias | If they lots of Z's, or u's instead of "you" |
| 13:47.22 | Keias | It's a bad fit! |
| 13:47.26 | dan-g | "He sounds like a 12 year old. He's not allowed." |
| 13:48.13 | Keias | Yep |
| 13:48.14 | Lukian | "Why do you want to join our guild?" "cuz ur guild rox!" |
| 13:48.19 | Keias | lol |
| 13:48.25 | Keias | Yeah, that shit drives me nuts :( |
| 13:48.34 | Keias | I don't expect perfect grammar, but damn. |
| 13:48.43 | Keias | No "ur dum" |
| 13:48.50 | Ozguli` | my reason for joining a guild would be "'cause I'm the best you can find" |
| 13:48.52 | Dezzimal | Theres no dedication to anything anymore in this game. |
| 13:48.52 | Dezzimal | PvEers cant afk there way to T4, but PvPers can afk there way to S1 gear. |
| 13:48.52 | Dezzimal | PvEers cant wipe there way to T6, but PvPers can break even for S3 gear. |
| 13:48.55 | Dezzimal | how true :/ |
| 13:49.08 | Dezzimal | except for the horrible use of their/there/they're |
| 13:49.16 | Keias | I can live with that |
| 13:49.36 | Keias | People that use "leet speak" drive me nuts too |
| 13:49.44 | Keias | I can't believe that shit still exists. |
| 13:50.04 | Dezzimal | leet is good for one thing |
| 13:50.06 | Lukian | h41 k3145! |
| 13:50.13 | Dezzimal | making easily memorizeable passwords |
| 13:50.34 | Dezzimal | that fufill the required ammount of numbers/symbols |
| 13:50.38 | Lukian | recent bruteforcers are starting to do that too Dezzimal :p |
| 13:50.53 | Dezzimal | if you reeeeeeeeealy want access to my school email |
| 13:51.00 | dan-g | I got an app last week from a hunter whose name was some horrible leet speek thing, and he used 1-2 words to answer each question. Under "why should we choose you" he replied "i lisen 2 direcshuns thx 4 ur time" |
| 13:51.02 | Dezzimal | go right ahead |
| 13:51.18 | Lukian | *sends porn using your email* |
| 13:51.30 | Keias | lol |
| 13:51.49 | Lukian | "oh shi.. did you just get suspended? :D" |
| 13:51.54 | Keias | My favorite is always seeing people answer to |
| 13:51.58 | Keias | "tell us a joke" |
| 13:52.04 | Lukian | haha |
| 13:52.05 | Dezzimal | I guarantee my "throwaway" password isn't in any bruteforcer dictionary |
| 13:52.26 | Ripdog | lies |
| 13:52.41 | dan-g | hahaha |
| 13:52.42 | Dezzimal | its 10 characters long and I've been using it for uh |
| 13:52.49 | Lukian | I use passphrases mostly, and just stick random numbers in, or leet subsitution, yeah |
| 13:52.49 | Dezzimal | 8 or 9 years now |
| 13:53.09 | Lukian | mine's 8! :D |
| 13:53.16 | Lukian | and I've been using it too long |
| 13:53.26 | Dezzimal | sucks because my school email actually has an upper bound on how many characters a password can be |
| 13:53.29 | Dezzimal | so I had to shorten it |
| 13:53.34 | Lukian | haha |
| 13:53.39 | Lukian | yeah upper limits are fun |
| 13:53.49 | dan-g | I always wonder what people are thinking when they set upper limits |
| 13:53.56 | dan-g | "What, you WANT my password to suck?" |
| 13:54.09 | Dezzimal | you can make ballin 8 character passwords |
| 13:54.49 | Dezzimal | パスヲヅ |
| 13:55.02 | dan-g | "must contain letters and numbers only" |
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| 13:55.38 | Dezzimal | thats actually password in japanese >_> |
| 13:55.40 | Dezzimal | I think |
| 13:55.47 | Dezzimal | pasuwodu |
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| 14:01.45 | haste | Dezzimal: nope, it would be パスワード |
| 14:04.44 | Dezzimal | is there actually some specification for romanization |
| 14:04.57 | Dezzimal | wor = wa? |
| 14:05.20 | Nargiddley | well wo sounds completely wrong |
| 14:05.25 | Dezzimal | word ending in a d syllable = da? |
| 14:05.49 | haste | there's some (and romanization is katakana/hiragana/kanji -> latin) |
| 14:06.00 | Dezzimal | the reverse of it |
| 14:06.04 | haste | it mostly goes on phonetics |
| 14:07.14 | Dezzimal | because what you wrote to me is passward |
| 14:07.50 | Nargiddley | long a is alot closer sounding than a short o |
| 14:08.00 | haste | I wrote pasuwaado |
| 14:08.55 | Dezzimal | clearly you're either british or canadian |
| 14:09.00 | Dezzimal | cuz thats not what password sounds like at all |
| 14:09.29 | haste | I wrote the correct japanese word for password however |
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| 14:15.57 | nekoh | herr rickmann |
| 14:15.59 | nekoh | fc |
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| 14:33.58 | Fisker- | oh u haste |
| 14:35.08 | haste | Fisker-: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/ |
| 14:39.02 | Ripdog | who needs sex when you have a keyboard like that |
| 14:39.24 | nevcairiel | i would probably hate typing on that |
| 14:39.41 | nevcairiel | gives you startrek feeling, just glas plates to punch onto :P |
| 14:40.51 | Daemona | yeah, but i dont even want to try to imagine what that would cost if the all-oled version already runs above 1500 bucks ;) |
| 14:43.05 | silentium | is there a simple way to move the blizzard raid warnings frame? having it on the edge between 2 monitors is... suboptimal |
| 14:43.31 | Ripdog | will some normal frame moving mod do? |
| 14:44.22 | silentium | no idea, I've never tried moving such frames before |
| 14:44.42 | dan-g | it should work |
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| 14:45.17 | Ripdog | something like fluidframes, i THINK it should work, but ive never moved it myself |
| 14:45.19 | nevcairiel | RaidWarningFrame:SetPoint() ? :P |
| 14:45.25 | Rasul | hello |
| 14:45.54 | Rasul | i am here with a question! |
| 14:46.03 | Ripdog | spit it out :) |
| 14:46.11 | Rasul | i was looking for a low memory using casting bar |
| 14:46.34 | Ripdog | the blizzard one? :P its either that or quartz, as far as i know |
| 14:46.35 | Rasul | i dont trust thouse unoffical wow addon site and curse, theyre all outdated |
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| 14:46.48 | Ripdog | quartz is on the wowace SVN |
| 14:46.59 | Rasul | the blizzard one? na im sick of it, need one wich i can move around |
| 14:47.26 | Rasul | not to much fancy stuff thou, wanna keep as much momory as i can get (pc broke and half of my memory is broke :() |
| 14:47.50 | silentium | if you dont want all of Quartz' features, you can disable the unneeded modules |
| 14:47.52 | Ripdog | quartz is very modular, if you dont load many modules its rather small |
| 14:48.03 | Ripdog | lol, just beat me :P |
| 14:48.22 | Rasul | ah oke thank you |
| 14:48.26 | Rasul | another think |
| 14:48.47 | dan-g | yeah I use a whopping two parts - player and enemy cast bar |
| 14:48.49 | Rasul | i had a extended questlog addon, but it was useless, need one with bigger screen and space for questlog and quest scrolling |
| 14:48.57 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin all |
| 14:48.57 | dan-g | i enable swing timer for my warrior too, but yeah |
| 14:48.58 | Rasul | anyone recommend any good questlog addon? |
| 14:49.11 | Ripdog | i <3 nquestlog, but its a matter of trying them all |
| 14:49.11 | mort | beql |
| 14:49.24 | Rasul | beql ? |
| 14:49.30 | mort | yes, beql |
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| 14:50.05 | Rasul | it says its based on extended questlog, i dont need other addon? |
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| 14:52.54 | Xinhuan | i'm recruiting aussies healers for a BT/Hyjal raiding guild! |
| 14:53.02 | Xinhuan | i'll even attune you |
| 14:53.21 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 14:53.23 | Ripdog | do we have to be geared for it, ie no progression? i need a progressiong guild :( |
| 14:53.35 | Xinhuan | i need you to have some T5 |
| 14:53.41 | Xinhuan | or you won't do jack in BT |
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| 14:55.50 | Ripdog | ah well, nite kiddies |
| 14:55.54 | Ripdog | 4am here >< |
| 14:56.57 | Rasul | thanks for the tip guys |
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| 14:57.00 | Rasul | it working nicelly |
| 14:57.07 | Rasul | my alts will be happy about this :D |
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| 14:57.29 | denali | Hello? |
| 14:57.37 | glowsticky | Can anyone here point me to a guide on how to use my own fonts? |
| 14:58.10 | denali | Anyone here know why Xloot isn't replacing the Blizzard loot frame? |
| 15:00.17 | haste | turn on Lua errors |
| 15:00.50 | denali | haste: Me? |
| 15:00.55 | haste | yes |
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| 15:01.05 | denali | haste: kk, just a sec |
| 15:02.07 | glowsticky | nvm on the font thing |
| 15:03.24 | denali | haste: Attempt to hook a non-existent function "LootButton_OnModifiedClick" |
| 15:03.50 | haste | sounds like you have the reason there |
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| 15:04.18 | denali | haste: Ok... How would one go about fixing it? |
| 15:04.40 | haste | either updating or degrading the addon |
| 15:05.40 | Lukian | hmm do I or don't I eat an afk officer in front of ZA |
| 15:07.14 | Lukian | free 20 honour |
| 15:08.09 | Lukian | my unitframes say he only had 6k health.. |
| 15:08.13 | Lukian | silly mage |
| 15:09.29 | denali | Just imagine if he had actually went into ZA with 6k health... |
| 15:09.55 | denali | Honestly, you saved him. |
| 15:10.10 | Lukian | I'd check his armory, but everyone is in 'pending update' status |
| 15:15.30 | denali | Ah ha! |
| 15:15.43 | what-K | another question gaves an afk leecher addon P |
| 15:15.47 | what-K | ? |
| 15:16.00 | what-K | to submit a gm automaticaly |
| 15:19.35 | Lukian | what-K, go write one |
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| 15:22.21 | glowsticky | Are there any MyMedia jockeys in the house? |
| 15:22.28 | glowsticky | I seem unable to get a custom font to work. |
| 15:22.40 | glowsticky | Must be something with my code... |
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| 15:30.59 | what-K | re all i search an addon that sign afk bg leecher |
| 15:31.04 | what-K | can someone help me ? |
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| 15:34.50 | [SW]Dodge | dont think that there is one |
| 15:36.42 | Xuerian | denali: You have a outdated version |
| 15:36.47 | Xuerian | denali: updaaaaaaate |
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| 15:38.23 | clad|sleep | why are people so stuck on "auto reporting" afk people in the battlegrounds |
| 15:38.27 | clad|sleep | it _doesn't_ make a difference |
| 15:39.06 | cladhaire | and there's already a few that have been written.. all stupid imo |
| 15:39.21 | Xuerian | cladhaire: People get stuck on stupid shit, case and point, ace'ing your addons :P |
| 15:39.28 | cladhaire | fair enough! |
| 15:40.19 | Fisker- | it does make a difference |
| 15:40.22 | Fisker- | faggots don't get honor |
| 15:40.43 | cladhaire | so report the people in the cave |
| 15:40.45 | cladhaire | its one click |
| 15:41.04 | Fisker- | not everyone afk's in the cave |
| 15:41.27 | Fisker- | many of them recall just to look like they're defending |
| 15:41.43 | dan-g | hey, its TWO clicks. right-click, and then "report AFK." why would i waste all that effort when I could be clicking other things? |
| 15:41.45 | dan-g | .... |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker- | also cartographer fails and doesn't allow it :( |
| 15:42.16 | cladhaire | then fuck faggot cartographer :P |
| 15:42.19 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:42.23 | dan-g | yeh, I had to stop using carto on my main - only my gathering alt still has it |
| 15:42.29 | cladhaire | dan-g: because anything "automatic" is bound to be flawed |
| 15:42.31 | cladhaire | and let me tell you |
| 15:42.36 | cladhaire | when I'm on defense, and get reported |
| 15:42.39 | cladhaire | i get fucking pissed. |
| 15:42.49 | dan-g | clad: sarcasm, man, calm down :P |
| 15:42.58 | cladhaire | i just dislike the concept |
| 15:42.58 | ag` | Fisker-, time to go mapster |
| 15:43.00 | cladhaire | and whiny people |
| 15:43.04 | dan-g | me too |
| 15:43.08 | Fisker- | no u ag` |
| 15:43.32 | Fisker- | well until Blizzard makes a proper solution for it we'll have to take what we get |
| 15:44.03 | dan-g | all it takes really is about 4-6 people who actually communicate to win AV these days |
| 15:44.17 | Fisker- | and ttlm does take into consideration people who defend |
| 15:44.40 | Fisker- | Of course it might not be perfect but you can manually adjust the values for that |
| 15:44.46 | cladhaire | AFkers can be a problem |
| 15:44.56 | cladhaire | most people who bitch abotu AFKers couldn't find their way out of a brown paper bag in AV |
| 15:45.07 | dan-g | true story! |
| 15:45.24 | Fisker- | there's a lot of those "OMG WE LOST AV BECAUSE OF AFK'ERS" |
| 15:45.44 | Fisker- | but it's not like the other faction doesn't have the issue either |
| 15:45.48 | dan-g | Generally alliance and horde have about the same number of afk'ers if you look at it |
| 15:45.48 | nevcairiel | omg we loose AV all the time because the average player is 14yrs and dumb like a peanut |
| 15:45.51 | Xuerian | What does alliance complain about it? |
| 15:45.55 | Xuerian | Horde wins anyway |
| 15:46.10 | dan-g | We lose because people fight on the bridge... and get raped by the archers |
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| 15:46.45 | Fisker- | the best way to win it is to take stormpike aid station |
| 15:46.46 | dan-g | Xuer, I'm horde and my AV record so far today is 3-14 =/ |
| 15:46.50 | Fisker- | just get a 2-3 people to take it |
| 15:47.02 | Fisker- | and when the rest of the raid reaches stormpike you can pretty much begin on vanndar |
| 15:47.22 | dan-g | i usually try to get a group of like 4 people grouped together... 2 to get each bunker capped, then grab the aid |
| 15:47.41 | dan-g | works well usually |
| 15:48.09 | Xuerian | dan-g: Zerg forward take gy then bunker, then deathmatch alliance while a strike team hits stormpike :P |
| 15:48.15 | nevcairiel | we do that to the horde |
| 15:48.16 | nevcairiel | and win |
| 15:48.41 | dan-g | Xuer: I'd love to. Convincing the 30 other monkeys in AV to do anything is kinda hard though |
| 15:49.19 | Xuerian | dan-g: What bracket? |
| 15:49.45 | dan-g | Cyclone, 61-70 |
| 15:50.23 | dan-g | lol, I wish I could send you a screenshot of my battle map right now. |
| 15:50.31 | Xuerian | I guess it might be my battlegroup or the 51-60 bracket, but everyone is pretty smart there, alliance included. They don't loose peacefully |
| 15:51.22 | Lukian | where is the vendor in ZA? |
| 15:51.34 | Fisker- | it's a spawn |
| 15:51.37 | Fisker- | from frogs |
| 15:51.43 | Fisker- | if it's not in the entrance you don't have it |
| 15:51.49 | Fisker- | and if you mean the repair man he's later in the instance |
| 15:51.59 | Fisker- | before lynx aspect |
| 15:52.06 | Lukian | ah right |
| 15:52.12 | dan-g | I'm the only on in Dun Baldar right now, the entire rest of the horde is still swarmed around SH |
| 15:52.21 | dan-g | 8 mins in =/ |
| 15:52.29 | Fisker- | btw dan-g |
| 15:52.31 | Fisker- | cyclone EU? |
| 15:52.35 | dan-g | US |
| 15:52.38 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:52.40 | Fisker- | you suck |
| 15:52.43 | dan-g | heh |
| 15:52.45 | dan-g | sorry :P |
| 15:52.56 | Xuerian | dan-g: What're reinforcements like? |
| 15:53.05 | dan-g | 500ish each right now |
| 15:53.21 | dan-g | but alliance has all 4 towers ticking, we have 2 |
| 15:53.25 | Xuerian | Well, so long as the stubborn nubs on your side don't die too much, you win anyway.... I guess that's nice |
| 15:53.49 | dan-g | they're on theirway to stormpike now, whee |
| 15:53.49 | Xuerian | or not |
| 15:53.49 | dan-g | and alliance just took aid |
| 15:53.56 | Fisker- | relief hut! |
| 15:54.03 | dan-g | errr yeah. |
| 15:54.14 | dan-g | this is how it usually goes, they get the hut about when we start attacking stormpike. it's really wierd, but it happens almost every time |
| 15:54.31 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:54.37 | Fisker- | because they just rush it |
| 15:54.39 | dan-g | I tell you what though Horde cleans up in EOTS and WSG in this battlegroup |
| 15:54.42 | Fisker- | and noone gets it back |
| 15:54.50 | dan-g | AB's about 50-50 |
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| 15:54.59 | Fisker- | we totally obliterate EOTS |
| 15:55.08 | Fisker- | even seen pugs take premades |
| 15:55.15 | dan-g | yeah same here |
| 15:55.16 | Fisker- | been in 2 or 3 vs. premades |
| 15:55.26 | Fisker- | one we even won 2000-less than 100 |
| 15:55.37 | Fisker- | they pretty much everyone went for flag |
| 15:55.44 | Fisker- | and we had like 5-10 people there delaying them |
| 15:55.50 | Fisker- | then we took the 2 other outposts they had |
| 15:55.55 | Fisker- | and even got the flag :D |
| 15:56.04 | dan-g | yeah, yesterday it was the daily BG, and we 4-capped em, won with about 2k-100 or so |
| 15:56.43 | dan-g | EOTS is awesome like that but AV's still better honor... wish it was more even |
| 15:59.42 | dan-g | 14 min loss, 188 honor to their 480 |
| 15:59.47 | dan-g | lol |
| 16:03.52 | Lukian | yay 20 slot bag |
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| 16:09.25 | Pkekyo| | I just love it when a lvl 70 warrior asks what dual wield is |
| 16:09.41 | Lukian | haha |
| 16:10.01 | Lukian | I love it when a 63 healer asks what a debuff is |
| 16:11.57 | Fisker- | I love it when a level 70 paladin asks where his quest for redemption is |
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| 16:13.50 | Lukian | lol :D |
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| 16:16.51 | [SW]Dodge | i love to tell a grp that i never learned the skill to summon a player(dont know how it is namend un english^^) and they belive that (i'm 70^^) |
| 16:16.59 | [SW]Dodge | wl+ |
| 16:17.07 | Pkekyo| | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23162 bwahahahaha |
| 16:19.10 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, /need (well they are adding resist gear storage to the character frame anyway) |
| 16:22.22 | nevcairiel | you wish they are |
| 16:22.38 | khangg | good thing i don't raid anymore :) |
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| 16:22.58 | Lukian | nevcairiel, don't you read planned additions? |
| 16:23.21 | dan-g | "Sorry, I'm not summon-specced!" |
| 16:23.22 | Fisker- | which have been planned for what? 1 billion years now? |
| 16:23.32 | nevcairiel | i do, but they planned alot of stuff, and alot of stuff got scrapped again |
| 16:23.55 | nevcairiel | i dont believe in some planned additions unless its specific info at some point. |
| 16:24.23 | Xuerian | Lukian: Link? |
| 16:24.41 | Lukian | 1.5.2Q Can we expect improved UI features? |
| 16:24.41 | Lukian | 1.5.2A Yes, the UI will get some very nice features. First off it will introduce an itemrack/Outfitter like feature. Basically it will allow you to easily swap gear compilations. However, it’s just not that; it will also introduce storage for those items. |
| 16:25.27 | Lukian | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111543053&sid=1 |
| 16:25.42 | nevcairiel | not really specific and confirmed :P |
| 16:26.02 | Xuerian | So long as I dont' still have to use itemrack to do it right, like SCT |
| 16:26.22 | Xuerian | excuse me |
| 16:26.23 | Xuerian | FCT |
| 16:26.25 | Lukian | hehe |
| 16:26.27 | Lukian | yeah |
| 16:26.29 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 16:26.32 | haste | it's LoD, shut your piehole |
| 16:26.46 | nevcairiel | or stuff more pie |
| 16:27.08 | haste | there are actually loads of people who would rather use something simple as the FCT |
| 16:27.16 | Industrial | <- |
| 16:27.19 | Industrial | but it looks shit |
| 16:27.22 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:27.37 | Aeyan | Sure does |
| 16:27.41 | Xuerian | Yes, there are |
| 16:27.43 | Xuerian | and I'm glad for them |
| 16:27.47 | Xuerian | I however, am not one of them |
| 16:27.53 | haste | and it's LoD |
| 16:27.54 | Xuerian | Therefor I am not glad for me |
| 16:27.57 | nevcairiel | there are alot of people who play with 100% default ui, and they're not any worse then you :p |
| 16:28.10 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Never said they were |
| 16:28.14 | Xuerian | (Hadn't gotten around to it yet) |
| 16:28.34 | nevcairiel | blizz really improved the ui, only that most people dont notice that because theyre using their precious addons :P |
| 16:29.04 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: I know, I've seen the improvements. Props to them. I still like a custom one better :P |
| 16:29.43 | dan-g | My customizations really don't add a lot of functionality, just hide things. I don't like how bulky it is |
| 16:29.54 | Lukian | what's a guild hall? |
| 16:30.07 | Lukian | Like an in game version of wowjutsu.com or something? :p |
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| 16:30.14 | Lukian | with all the bosses heads displayed? :p |
| 16:30.55 | dan-g | that would be kinda cool |
| 16:30.55 | Aeyan | Most of my customization is aesthetic lately, hehe |
| 16:31.30 | dan-g | My UI is extremely minimalistic |
| 16:32.42 | Aeyan | I have a new monitor now and I'm not really sure what to do with mine yet |
| 16:32.44 | khangg | :o |
| 16:32.50 | khangg | i like extremely minimalistic UIs |
| 16:34.12 | Lukian | http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot122707021552kj0.jpg |
| 16:35.05 | dan-g | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/spacebird/WoWScrnShot_122307_091345.jpg |
| 16:35.14 | dan-g | Everything I use is key-bound |
| 16:35.29 | Aeyan | I like symmetry, unfortunately |
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| 16:35.42 | syeren | WTB teams in 5s :( |
| 16:35.43 | Aeyan | Limits me a lot |
| 16:36.02 | khangg | you could use tidyminimap to get rid of fubar |
| 16:36.55 | dan-g | hmm? |
| 16:37.11 | dan-g | not familiar with that one |
| 16:37.45 | khangg | http://i15.tinypic.com/6qa5wcn.jpg |
| 16:37.48 | khangg | under the minimap |
| 16:38.08 | dan-g | hmm |
| 16:38.29 | Aeyan | Or you could just shrink your fubar |
| 16:38.42 | khangg | auto-hide works too |
| 16:38.44 | dan-g | i usually just have fubar on auto-hide |
| 16:38.48 | Xuerian | 1.5.3Q The MAC currently has a recording option. Will Windows users ever get something similar? : Do they have a straight to encoded video recording option or what? |
| 16:38.57 | dan-g | I specifically un-hid it to show it in that one *shrug* |
| 16:38.58 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:39.05 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: yes via quicktime iirc |
| 16:39.25 | nevcairiel | you can even set it to record without your UI while you have your UI shown |
| 16:39.27 | nevcairiel | pretty imba |
| 16:39.34 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: It's amazing how far behind games today are behind old games like Tribes. Why the hell don't they introduce action-based recording? |
| 16:39.42 | dan-g | agreed |
| 16:39.52 | nevcairiel | thats a hell of data to record |
| 16:39.56 | Xuerian | No it's not |
| 16:39.56 | Fisker- | "We'll look into having support for it in windows too" |
| 16:40.01 | Fisker- | *2 years pass* |
| 16:40.01 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
| 16:40.02 | Fisker- | "lolwut?" |
| 16:40.09 | dan-g | FRAPS just doesnt really cut it, its very bloated. |
| 16:40.20 | Xuerian | x, y, z, r, and events |
| 16:40.21 | nevcairiel | there is stuff that the client doesnt even know about and gets told by the server |
| 16:40.30 | nevcairiel | that it would additionally have to know |
| 16:41.16 | Xuerian | What? It records movements/actions of everything you can see. It could be a internal process handled with StartRecording()/StopRecording(), on a delay, like a minute |
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| 16:41.28 | Xuerian | What he hell else would it have to know? |
| 16:42.06 | Xuerian | WC3 had recordings too |
| 16:42.16 | Xuerian | 400kb~ for a entire game |
| 16:42.18 | Xuerian | Eight players |
| 16:42.24 | Xuerian | hundreds of units |
| 16:42.27 | nevcairiel | every good strategy game can do that |
| 16:42.33 | nevcairiel | its still different for a game like wow |
| 16:42.44 | Droolio | Quake 1 had recordings |
| 16:42.49 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: please point out the difference |
| 16:43.25 | dan-g | Xuer: it's the way things are handled |
| 16:43.36 | Xuerian | dan-g: Elaborate |
| 16:43.42 | dan-g | you would not be able to see the UI, nor the way the camera was moved by the player |
| 16:43.43 | Droolio | which essentially just recorded the network data - all the entities etc. |
| 16:44.00 | dan-g | with War3, Starcraft, etc you dont have those complications |
| 16:44.09 | Xuerian | dan-g: No, you don't. It's just a extra data stream to record |
| 16:44.21 | nevcairiel | i am sure they considered it, and dicarded it. |
| 16:44.25 | Xuerian | Camera vector, mouse position, and click status |
| 16:44.42 | dan-g | would work if everyone used the same UI |
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| 16:45.20 | Xuerian | dan-g: I didn't say what frame was being moused over, I said position and click status. If events were recorded and replayed, the custom UI wouldn't know the difference |
| 16:45.21 | nevcairiel | yeah if you want to show the UI in your action recording, you would have to ship the UI with it |
| 16:46.00 | nevcairiel | i bet blizzard didnt want players to be able to do that exact recordings anyway |
| 16:46.05 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Yeah, you would, or ship it without the ui. But the real gem would be the boon to the recorder, who can pick and choose what to record and from what angles, instead of getting what was recorded mid combat |
| 16:46.28 | dan-g | Xuer: I suppose it could work locally but only so long as you dont change your UI. you couldn't share it with others unless it had a program built into it to export to, say, AVI |
| 16:46.29 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: What blizzard wants never quite makes sense to me; see the epic druid form thread |
| 16:46.39 | [SW]Dodge | i need a tip: what is recommend if i want to make an unitframes addon like duf. using ace2 or already use ace3? and what about rock? is it a own framework or just something for configuration wit the gui? |
| 16:46.47 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: i dont read official forums, because 99% there are childish idiots. |
| 16:46.51 | Xuerian | dan-g: No... replay it and record it just like you do a normal game now |
| 16:47.01 | nevcairiel | i am pretty happy with the game and my druid, kthx :P |
| 16:48.04 | dan-g | Xuer: not saying it is impossible, just that I believe it would be significantly more difficult than with a game like War3 |
| 16:48.15 | nevcairiel | So, if you think its so easy to code, we have to come to the conclusion that they just did not want players to be able to do it. period and eod .P |
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| 16:48.22 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Point being that people have made druid forms that fit into the style of artwork and submitted them to blizzard. In addition, there's about 2k posts in the druid foum agreeing with the fact that most other classes get to see their character physically progress, and in forms we don't see anything from 10-70 |
| 16:48.40 | nevcairiel | thats a stupid argument |
| 16:48.48 | nevcairiel | really |
| 16:48.50 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 16:48.56 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: So.... |
| 16:48.58 | Xuerian | you're a warrior |
| 16:49.05 | Xuerian | you start with short shorts and a armless tshirt |
| 16:49.07 | khangg | what we arguin about? |
| 16:49.15 | Xuerian | You have 100 days playtime in the end, 70, bt gear |
| 16:49.20 | Xuerian | you still have shorts and a tshirt |
| 16:49.21 | dan-g | You can see your gear when not in form |
| 16:49.22 | Xuerian | You happy? |
| 16:49.35 | dan-g | Why is this an issue? |
| 16:49.49 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: thats not the point. a druid does look better in his gear, and you dont walk around in forms in citys |
| 16:49.56 | [SW]Dodge | dan-g: a druid i the most time in a form O.o |
| 16:49.57 | nevcairiel | during combat i have no time to watch my char anyway o.O |
| 16:50.00 | Xuerian | Right.... |
| 16:50.02 | dan-g | By that rationale my warlock should get larger and more scary-looking shadowbolts every few levels |
| 16:50.13 | Xuerian | dan-g: Did I say anything about spells? |
| 16:50.14 | Xuerian | No. |
| 16:50.16 | dan-g | And my shaman's lightning should take out a small mountain |
| 16:50.20 | Xuerian | Your warlock gear-progresses |
| 16:50.24 | Xuerian | So does my druid. |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | thats really a stupid and pointless complaint |
| 16:50.28 | dan-g | I'm just saying, if we're talking about visual progression over level |
| 16:50.32 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Then why are they adding hair? |
| 16:50.35 | Xuerian | That's a stupid and pointless addon |
| 16:50.38 | Xuerian | (Hair changes/etc) |
| 16:50.39 | nevcairiel | hair? |
| 16:50.52 | Xuerian | In WotLK, changes to hair styles and such |
| 16:50.53 | dan-g | Simple: every character has hair |
| 16:51.06 | Xuerian | dan-g: Simple: Every character has a appearance |
| 16:51.07 | dan-g | One class has forms, and it's not in them 100% of the time |
| 16:51.19 | nevcairiel | a druid will always look the same in his feral form. accept it or reroll o.O |
| 16:51.19 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/mrstkitty.jpg |
| 16:51.20 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/mrtmoonkin.jpg |
| 16:51.23 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/littlebear.jpg |
| 16:51.28 | [SW]Dodge | dan-g: but in 90% of the time |
| 16:51.28 | Aeyan | Found those on the WoW forums a while back |
| 16:51.29 | nevcairiel | i hate people that claim to outsmart blizzard |
| 16:51.30 | Xuerian | dan-g: Try playing a feral druid. In bc, you're either in flight form, cat form, or bear form |
| 16:51.46 | dan-g | I have, but only to 60 |
| 16:51.52 | dan-g | I honestly didnt care |
| 16:51.53 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, how does one convert a library from ace2 dependant to libstub dependant? |
| 16:52.11 | Xuerian | dan-g: Super. |
| 16:52.30 | dan-g | If I wanted to look at my shiny stormrage gear, I'd just pop outof form between fights or when not raiding... |
| 16:52.33 | nevcairiel | Xuerian: i am a tree most of the time, and i never cared that the tree looks the same all the time, because i know that i look awesome when i remove my tree form. |
| 16:52.56 | dan-g | If we're gonna get into cosmetics I'd say lets have Blizz revamp the whole "Everything is just a new texture on an old model" way of doing things |
| 16:52.57 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: And I am sure that there are people who are perfectly happy having the same hair their whole character life, or none at all. |
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| 16:53.11 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: That's not the point. Of course there are people who are happy with what is there. Duh. Dur. Doy. That's not the point |
| 16:53.29 | [SW]Dodge | *shy* what is recommend if i want to make an unitframes addon like duf. using ace2 or already use ace3? and what about rock? is it a own framework or just something for configuration wit the gui? |
| 16:53.31 | nevcairiel | If you're not happy, change your class, quit the game, diaf, jump of a bridge |
| 16:53.37 | nevcairiel | just dont be annoying |
| 16:54.03 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: you're right. I'll refrain from expressing my opinion since you blatantly want to bash it |
| 16:54.04 | Xuerian | fuck off |
| 16:54.08 | dan-g | You wanna talk about pointless cosmetic changes? How bout the massive threads in the lock forums begging for green fire. Makes me want to reroll just to not be associated with them. |
| 16:54.28 | Adys | Xuerian who the hell are you to talk like that to someone who makes sense |
| 16:54.33 | Droolio | i want purple fire |
| 16:54.43 | nevcairiel | Players always find a new reason to complain. now druids are fine to play, now they complain about forms not switching looks |
| 16:54.45 | nevcairiel | thats silly. |
| 16:54.48 | dan-g | I'm perfectly happy with fire-colored fire |
| 16:54.50 | nevcairiel | please, go back in your cave |
| 16:54.52 | Industrial | i want purple dildo..s I mean never mind |
| 16:54.55 | Droolio | purple and green fire |
| 16:54.59 | Xuerian | Adys: If he had said he doesn't agree with my opinion, or his is different, sure. But he has been bashing mine. There's a difference |
| 16:55.12 | Industrial | Xuerian: you suck. go away. |
| 16:55.12 | Adys | You dont get it |
| 16:55.14 | Industrial | (just kidding) |
| 16:55.16 | Xuerian | Industrial: You blow. Come here |
| 16:55.18 | Adys | he bashes your opinion within reason |
| 16:55.41 | Aeyan | Meh, I think I'll go make a sandwich. |
| 16:55.42 | Industrial | Xuerian: ;o |
| 16:55.53 | Adys | its big like that, out of nowhere you come up and tell him that, how dont you want people to tell you you're a kid who wants to complain because he doesnt have anything else to do right now? |
| 16:55.56 | Xuerian | Adys: Yet amidst bashing my opinion he hasn't reasonably pointed out the difference between giving a simple texture change and introducing changing hairstyles |
| 16:56.15 | Adys | What if Blizzard doesnt want to? |
| 16:56.16 | dan-g | But I did.... one effects everyone one doesnt |
| 16:56.21 | Adys | Isnt it reason enough? |
| 16:56.25 | Fisker- | Full season 3 geared druid http://www.regressionx.com/wow/Images/Druid_BearForm-NE.jpg |
| 16:56.30 | dan-g | It's a simple matter of who bitches about it more |
| 16:56.33 | Xuerian | Adys: I am questioning why blizzard doesn't want to. That's what I'm doing, that's the entire... fucking.. point |
| 16:56.36 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: uhm, recode the library init code (activate in ace2 libs), and copy paste the functionality? :) i would probably go for a rewrite and copying the functionality |
| 16:56.46 | Industrial | Fisker-: leet |
| 16:56.53 | Xinhuan | i would like to see Tiphooker-1.0 libstubbed |
| 16:57.00 | Xinhuan | it does not use a single ace function or event |
| 16:57.10 | Stanzilla | do it |
| 16:57.12 | Xinhuan | and just uses acelibrary-2.0 for its version numbering |
| 16:57.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:57.21 | Adys | Xuerian: Ok, go ask blizzard why they dont want to if you want, but dont complain about it pointlessly here, you're just ruining the ambiance |
| 16:57.32 | Adys | because honest.. |
| 16:57.39 | Industrial | Fisker-: the the point though. You took a class that has changing into animals as its "thing". fucking live with not being able to see what you are wearing while in form, because you are a fucking bear. |
| 16:57.40 | Xinhuan | but i don't know how to do it, i'm scared i will break RatingBuster |
| 16:57.42 | Adys | no one gives a fuck about this, otherwise you'd get alot more backup |
| 16:57.44 | Industrial | to the point* |
| 16:57.52 | Adys | Not trying to be offensive just straight |
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| 16:58.14 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: branch everything and test it? :) |
| 16:58.28 | Xinhuan | well if someone here knows how to do it |
| 16:58.33 | Xinhuan | it'll be better! |
| 16:58.39 | nevcairiel | I hate that blizzard gives every pvp'er gear that looks like end-game raiding gear. but there is nothing i can do about it. so i just live with it. wonder why other people just cant accept stuff like it is. |
| 16:58.39 | Xinhuan | and i suspect nevcairiel does |
| 16:58.45 | Xuerian | Adys: I know only a few other people here care about it. A few do, thus the links from aforementioned epic thread. <Nods>. I know you're not being offensive, and well, thanks for being pretty much the only one that participated in the argument that wasn't a ass. (Including me) |
| 16:58.58 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: I agree there |
| 16:59.01 | [SW]Dodge | what is recommend if i want to make an unitframes addon like duf. using ace2 or already use ace3? and what about rock? is it a own framework or just something for configuration wit the gui? *crying* |
| 16:59.03 | Industrial | nevcairiel: because you are a pvper and it looks shit/you want it to be unique? |
| 16:59.29 | Ellipsis | everyone knows the most important graphical mistake blizzard has made regarding class abilities...warlocks don't have green fire yet. |
| 16:59.56 | dan-g | Ellipsis: your kind makes me cry. :( |
| 16:59.58 | Industrial | they should eat more tacos. Green fire will follow. |
| 16:59.59 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 17:00.04 | nevcairiel | Industrial: before BC the PVPers had their own unique set, and you could tell if it was a pvp player or a raider. now, arena and high-end raiding looks the same .. why not just create 2 models again :/ |
| 17:00.06 | Ellipsis | I don't like tacos :( |
| 17:00.07 | Adys | Sort it yourselves Im back to my attention-seeking steak |
| 17:00.17 | Industrial | Ellipsis: live with it! :D |
| 17:00.35 | Ellipsis | Industrial, will you eat tacos for me? |
| 17:00.41 | Industrial | if you want me to |
| 17:00.46 | Ellipsis | yay ^-^ |
| 17:00.48 | dan-g | nev: agreed, that and with how easy it is to get the gear nowadays it cheapens it a bit, doesnt it? |
| 17:01.04 | Industrial | nevcairiel: I agree tho |
| 17:01.19 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: well basicly you only need to tell the lib to create its own :Embed(), in Ace2 that was being done by AceOO |
| 17:01.21 | dan-g | I'd love it if arena gear was a bit harder to get, and looked different than PVE gear. especially since the recoloring usually looks awful. |
| 17:01.36 | Xinhuan | there is no :Embed() being used in tiphooker |
| 17:01.39 | Industrial | nevcairiel: iI thought you said it because you didnt want pvpers to look like pve'ers because they are "lower" and didnt quite defeat all the things you had to get what they have. |
| 17:01.44 | nevcairiel | haha yeah, warlocks in s3 gear, that blueish stuff .. awful |
| 17:01.50 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: no embeded lib? |
| 17:01.54 | nevcairiel | does it use AceOO at all? |
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| 17:02.00 | Xinhuan | no |
| 17:02.07 | Xuerian | dan-g: Playing back to your comment about recording being more complicated. Yes, I agree, it's more complicated. It would make more sense to me for them to do it instead of writing two different solutions for two different platforms. Anyway, I concede the discussion, I've just had it pounded into my face today by you all that opinions aren't welcome in #wowace |
| 17:02.18 | Xinhuan | all it does at the very top |
| 17:02.19 | Xinhuan | is |
| 17:02.19 | Xinhuan | if not AceLibrary then error(MAJOR_VERSION.." requires AceLibrary") end |
| 17:02.20 | Xinhuan | if not AceLibrary:IsNewVersion(MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION) then return end |
| 17:02.21 | nevcairiel | Industrial: actually i want. I spend much more tiem getting my gear, and i want it to be something unique. |
| 17:02.28 | Xinhuan | and at the very bottom of the file |
| 17:02.30 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 17:02.30 | Xinhuan | AceLibrary:Register(TipHooker, MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION, activate) |
| 17:02.32 | Xinhuan | that's it! |
| 17:02.36 | Fisker- | nevcairiel the same? |
| 17:02.39 | Xinhuan | the word "ace" isn't found anywhere else |
| 17:02.41 | Industrial | nevcairiel: and pvpers dont? |
| 17:02.43 | Xinhuan | except on those 3 lines |
| 17:02.45 | nevcairiel | Industrial: no |
| 17:02.49 | Industrial | nevcairiel: ha. |
| 17:02.51 | dan-g | Xuer: I think the reason they did it for Mac was because the OS-native recording made it pretty much idiotproof and required very little effort on their part |
| 17:02.54 | nevcairiel | you can get arena gear so fast |
| 17:02.56 | nevcairiel | its stupid. |
| 17:02.56 | Fisker- | i can easily spot the difference between season 2 pvp and tier 5 |
| 17:03.31 | nevcairiel | two weeks after S3 release half my server runs around with full S3 gear |
| 17:03.39 | nevcairiel | and looks like a T6 player |
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| 17:03.52 | nevcairiel | before BC i was special with my T3 naxxramas gear ./ |
| 17:04.00 | nevcairiel | and a pvper was special with his rank 14 gear |
| 17:04.15 | nevcairiel | now its just nothing.. |
| 17:04.36 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: hrm, lemme test that then :P |
| 17:04.52 | Xinhuan | well it has an extra "activate" function |
| 17:04.56 | Xinhuan | that is required |
| 17:05.06 | Xinhuan | and i have no idea what its supposed to do |
| 17:05.13 | nevcairiel | thats needed in Ace2 because of the way libs are handled |
| 17:05.20 | nevcairiel | LibStub made that kinda redundant |
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| 17:06.47 | Fisker- | i'll upgrade my webserver soon :P |
| 17:07.38 | Industrial | nevcairiel: I dont really like the pvp chenages they made back then either |
| 17:07.46 | Industrial | growing in ranks was cool, and a real status |
| 17:08.34 | Fisker- | when someone sends a german itemlink |
| 17:08.53 | Fisker- | is it then the same itemlink and the client just uses german text where there would be english text? |
| 17:09.44 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: that was easy *shrug* /me logs in |
| 17:09.54 | Xinhuan | i thought it would be easy |
| 17:10.04 | Xinhuan | but i don't really have a clue when it comes to libraries |
| 17:10.35 | Xinhuan | since i've never ever studied the code for lib registering, upgrading, discarding, etc |
| 17:14.42 | nevcairiel | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/TipHookerLib/LibStub/ |
| 17:14.45 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 17:16.16 | Xinhuan | what did you change |
| 17:17.56 | nevcairiel | well the first two AceLib lines are now libstub lines, the activate function is now gone, and i removed the activate function and converted it to upgrading code |
| 17:18.13 | Thrae | Alright, what's the hot bar mod these days? |
| 17:18.25 | nevcairiel | dont ask me, i am biased |
| 17:18.49 | Xinhuan | won't the old OnEventFrame get fired? |
| 17:19.05 | Thrae | I just need something simple. |
| 17:19.18 | Xinhuan | because i don't think you handled that |
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| 17:19.22 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i need to include that in the upgrade path |
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| 17:20.20 | Xinhuan | also how would the libstubbed version interact with the ace2 version |
| 17:20.46 | nevcairiel | i am not sure |
| 17:21.06 | nevcairiel | i think a lib was never meant to be upgraded in the same major from ace2 to libstub |
| 17:21.48 | Xuerian | nevcairiel, dan-g, Industrial, Adys: I'm sorry for being irrational and insulting. Wasn't warranted, wasn't reasonable, and was entirely stupid on my behalf. Thanks for trying to discuss my opinions even though I turned it into a argument. |
| 17:22.15 | Xinhuan | well, i can see in ace2library's code |
| 17:22.22 | nevcairiel | My guess is, that AceLibrary will still provide the old AceLibrary-registered-version (if any), and Libstub will of course give us the new one |
| 17:22.28 | Osstia|home | Frame:CreateTitleRegion() |
| 17:22.28 | Xinhuan | it checks to see if LibStub:GetLibrary(major, true) is true or not |
| 17:22.40 | Xinhuan | but if a ace2 version loads first |
| 17:22.42 | Osstia|home | Can someone explain waht that actually does?? |
| 17:22.44 | Xinhuan | then a libstub version loads |
| 17:22.49 | Xinhuan | wouldn't there be 2 copies? |
| 17:23.03 | nevcairiel | when does AceLibrary check that? |
| 17:23.10 | Xinhuan | line 594 |
| 17:23.19 | nevcairiel | does it only check that if there is no copy in the AceLibrary registry? |
| 17:23.23 | Xinhuan | inside AceLibrary:Register() |
| 17:23.28 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 17:23.34 | nevcairiel | i more thought of GetInstance() |
| 17:23.47 | Xinhuan | if it exists, it throws this |
| 17:23.47 | Xinhuan | error(self, "Cannot register library %q. It is already registered with LibStub.", major) |
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| 17:24.25 | Xinhuan | but i don't know how all these works if a libstubbed and ace2 version both runs together |
| 17:24.41 | nevcairiel | oh i see |
| 17:24.48 | nevcairiel | AceLibrary always uses LibStub |
| 17:25.31 | Xinhuan | so a call to AceLibrary:Register() is really a wrapper to LibStub:NewLibrary() ? |
| 17:25.39 | nevcairiel | well yeah |
| 17:25.42 | nevcairiel | a complex wrapper |
| 17:26.12 | nevcairiel | AceLibrary does soem crazy stuff to its addon tables |
| 17:26.23 | Xinhuan | i don't think i dare to make any changes heh |
| 17:26.54 | nevcairiel | we could name it TipHooker-1.1 |
| 17:26.58 | nevcairiel | and avoid that |
| 17:27.46 | nevcairiel | the API didnt change a bit |
| 17:27.57 | nevcairiel | so RatingBuster could be updated to use it too |
| 17:28.38 | nevcairiel | anyway, feeding time, bbl |
| 17:28.43 | Xinhuan | updating ratingbuster to use it is just changing 1.0 to 1.1 |
| 17:28.51 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:29.00 | Xinhuan | i guess i better ask ammo |
| 17:29.07 | [Ammo] | ask me about what? |
| 17:30.25 | Osstia|home | If I wanted to add a title to a frame at the top, I think I can CreateFontString, and then use SetPoint() to place it at the top of the frame, is that correct? |
| 17:30.38 | Xinhuan | oh ammo |
| 17:30.52 | Xinhuan | i wanted to ask how to upgrade TipHooker-1.0 to use libstub |
| 17:31.13 | Xinhuan | it doesn't use ace2 in any way totally, apart from its version numbering it 1.0 |
| 17:31.43 | Xinhuan | but i don't know how it will interact such an upgrade with non-libstubbed versions |
| 17:32.06 | [Ammo] | change the major |
| 17:32.08 | [Ammo] | to 1.1 |
| 17:32.18 | [Ammo] | that's the best way to do it |
| 17:32.28 | [Ammo] | and if you leave the API alone, then people can just replace 1.0 with 1.1 in a flash |
| 17:32.56 | Xinhuan | lets say a 1.0 version loads, then a 1.1 loads, how would it upgrade its stuff? |
| 17:33.02 | [Ammo] | it doesn't |
| 17:33.06 | [Ammo] | 1.0 and 1.1 are independant |
| 17:33.14 | [Ammo] | only minors should upgrade |
| 17:33.29 | Xinhuan | so 2 copies of tiphook would then exist at the same time? |
| 17:33.32 | Antiar1 | yes |
| 17:33.41 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 17:33.43 | Antiar1 | The idea being that major version changes are separate libraries |
| 17:33.47 | Antiar1 | So they're loaded separately |
| 17:34.36 | Xinhuan | so if you look at the current tiphooker-1.0 what needs to be modified? |
| 17:34.49 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 17:34.54 | [Ammo] | I haven't looked and no time atm |
| 17:36.51 | Xinhuan | this means a library should never expose itself to _G ? |
| 17:37.53 | [Ammo] | an ace2 lib no |
| 17:38.04 | [Ammo] | but a libstub one can |
| 17:38.17 | [Ammo] | ace2 lib tables are redone completely with a new table |
| 17:38.22 | [Ammo] | libstb libs reuse the old table |
| 17:38.39 | Xinhuan | how does ace3 handle it? |
| 17:38.45 | [Ammo] | handle what? |
| 17:38.50 | Xinhuan | libraries |
| 17:38.54 | Xinhuan | or it doesn't at all? |
| 17:39.02 | [Ammo] | it does some lib handling |
| 17:39.10 | [Ammo] | and assumes libstub libs that are the same table |
| 17:39.22 | [Ammo] | for embedding |
| 17:39.29 | [Ammo] | it doesn't care for anything else |
| 17:39.48 | Xinhuan | so there is no AceLibrary3-0 or anything like that correct? |
| 17:41.49 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 17:41.52 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 17:41.52 | purl | 2007.12.30 17:41:52 GMT, or the fourth dimension |
| 17:42.02 | [Ammo] | there is libstub which we did before starting Ace3 |
| 17:42.34 | Xinhuan | hmm, its going to be a bitch to write addons then, until libraries get upgraded to Libstub |
| 17:43.15 | Xinhuan | since to write a addon that is "ace3", all its libs have to be "libstubbed" or it would have to include ace2 in the package |
| 17:43.43 | [Ammo] | shrg |
| 17:43.44 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 17:43.44 | nevcairiel | Yeah |
| 17:43.50 | [Ammo] | and that's bad how? |
| 17:44.00 | nevcairiel | More work for us *shrug |
| 17:44.04 | Xinhuan | ^ |
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| 17:44.43 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with my libstubbed tiphooker anyway ? except that it doesnt upgrade very well |
| 17:44.52 | nevcairiel | besides, only ratingbuster uses it anyway *shrug |
| 17:45.01 | [Ammo] | tiphooker is an evil abomination anyway |
| 17:45.04 | [Ammo] | ugly lib |
| 17:45.06 | nevcairiel | (doesnt upgrade from Ace2 -> LibStub) |
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| 17:45.53 | Xinhuan | your eventframe upgrade path seems a bit screwed with the TipHooker reference |
| 17:46.41 | Xinhuan | anyway, the reason i am interested in tiphooker is that it appears that there is quite a high cost of hooking a separate hooksecurefunc() for each addon's tooltip |
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| 17:47.15 | Xinhuan | as opposed to tiphooker only doing it once for every addon since it calls all the addon that registered to it in its single hook |
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| 17:48.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r662cbc9836 10./TourGuide_Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua: Darkshore user tweaks |
| 17:48.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03kemayo <kemayo@gmail.com> 07master * re0847e642c 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (32_33_Arathi_Highlands.lua 33_35_Desolace.lua): |
| 17:48.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Patch fixing: incorrect directions to "Hints of a New Plague?", typo in directions to |
| 17:48.33 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: Nijel's Point. |
| 17:48.38 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
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| 17:50.54 | vithos | sorry if this is a bit off topic, but would the script profiler be attributing cpu using to tiphooker in that case (in the event handling) instead of the addons that use it themselves? |
| 17:51.18 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 17:51.40 | nevcairiel | profiling gets thrown off by libraries all the time |
| 17:51.43 | vithos | i ask because one thing that bothers me about Ace2 is the script profiler shows it as using a lot of cpu time for my UI, which is annoying when trying to diagnose things |
| 17:51.46 | nevcairiel | due to the way the blame is handled |
| 17:51.56 | Xinhuan | i noted that TipHooker uses 5 CPU/sec when hovering over an item with 2 compare links |
| 17:52.08 | Xinhuan | and i notice that my addon BankItems also uses the same 5 CPU/sec |
| 17:52.16 | Xinhuan | (measured in Optionhouse) |
| 17:52.23 | Xinhuan | although my hook does complete nothing |
| 17:52.35 | Xinhuan | it was just a "function() return end" securehook |
| 17:52.48 | vithos | ah, lame :( |
| 17:53.12 | Xinhuan | but if multiple addons use Tiphooker, then the 5 CPU/sec is only attributed/called once |
| 17:53.28 | Xinhuan | hence RatingBuster registers less than 1 CPU/sec |
| 17:53.34 | Xinhuan | on a link with 2 comparelinks |
| 17:53.56 | vithos | it's too bad the blizzard profiler doesn't track when execution switches from one addon folder to another, and be able to show you a breakdown per addon's lib usage |
| 17:54.07 | Xinhuan | vithos, but it does |
| 17:54.22 | Xinhuan | it switches from the addon's folder to the lib's folder |
| 17:54.40 | Xinhuan | so that you can accurately tell that lib's usage |
| 17:55.01 | vithos | hmm.. but not in the case of hooks? |
| 17:55.07 | Xinhuan | it does too |
| 17:55.34 | Xinhuan | the thing is ratingbuster uses tiphooker to do the hook on sethyperlink |
| 17:55.46 | Xinhuan | the breakdown is that tiphooker is attributed 5 CPU/sec |
| 17:56.02 | Xinhuan | and ratingbuster's actual function that adds the tooltip is attributed 0.6 CPU/sec |
| 17:56.18 | Xinhuan | is tiphooker is embedded into RB, then it would just report 5.6 CPU/sec |
| 17:56.22 | Xinhuan | for RB |
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| 17:56.57 | Xinhuan | now my addon does nothing, its an empty function hook that does "function() return end" and i'm recording 5 CPU/sec for this empty secure hook as well |
| 17:57.37 | Xinhuan | this means the securehooking and secure returning to the caller is a high cost operation |
| 17:58.00 | vithos | ah, now i get it |
| 17:58.51 | Xinhuan | if i use tiphooker in my addon instead, then tiphooker's usage would remain about 5.0 or 5.1 still |
| 17:59.02 | Xinhuan | RB would use 0.6 or so, and mine will also use 0.6 or so |
| 17:59.20 | Xinhuan | if i hooked separately, it appears the additional costs of securehooking add up |
| 18:00.11 | vithos | i just wish the profiler could give results more like how they would be with embedded libs, but at the same time be able to show the lib's individual usage seperately for multiple addons that use it |
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| 18:01.56 | vithos | anyway, bbl |
| 18:03.27 | nevcairiel | the profiler itself adds so much cpu usage, that the overall image is off anyway |
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| 18:07.07 | Pkekyo| | http://www.airsoftguns.info/download/file.php?id=2117&t=1 bwahahah |
| 18:09.35 | Arrowmaster | i think maybe i should goto bed sometime soon, im being told that ive been awake since friday but i cant really remember |
| 18:10.45 | Pkekyo| | :) |
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| 18:51.10 | sdouble | don't believe their lies Arrowmaster |
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| 19:12.55 | Pkekyo| | this is ridiculous....was within the casting range of a lock for 3sec and he got me down to half health |
| 19:19.02 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, hehe what'd he cast? :D |
| 19:19.26 | Lukian | Anyone good at choosing character names? rolling an RP, Male, Blood Elf, Priest. |
| 19:19.29 | nevcairiel | probably shadowbolt and shadowburn |
| 19:19.30 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 19:19.52 | nevcairiel | male bloodelf? think of something gay-ish |
| 19:20.10 | Lukian | yeah, I'm using thesuarus words for 'pleasure' as a basis |
| 19:20.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:20.20 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 19:20.30 | RaydenUni | what sort of person is this BE? |
| 19:20.34 | Lukian | delectation, fruition, gusto, solace, velvet, zest |
| 19:20.47 | Lukian | solace is kinda neat |
| 19:21.13 | RaydenUni | bet it's taken |
| 19:21.23 | RaydenUni | my black tauren warrior i made recently is named Riptar |
| 19:21.23 | Lukian | yup |
| 19:21.26 | RaydenUni | i'm rather proud of that |
| 19:21.45 | Lukian | except anyone can append a 'd' when chatting to you :p |
| 19:21.46 | Antiar1 | "Maadan" is a hebrew boy's name meaning "Delight; pleasure" |
| 19:21.59 | RaydenUni | there yah go |
| 19:22.05 | dylanm | "Xdresser" |
| 19:22.18 | Lukian | dylanm, that'd probably breach RP policy |
| 19:22.39 | dylanm | Oh didn't see that |
| 19:22.51 | nevcairiel | Maadan doesnt sound blood-elf-ish |
| 19:23.42 | Antiar1 | http://www.babynamesworld.com/search.php?p=meaning <-- go wild |
| 19:23.51 | Lukian | What about a play on solace, involving solar (sunwell? :D) |
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| 19:25.17 | Lukian | something like Solarace, but can't be seperated into "solar ace" :p |
| 19:26.26 | Antiar1 | Heh, here's an idea for a mod |
| 19:26.37 | Antiar1 | Something that uses Auctioneer data or something to give an estimate of a gbank's worth |
| 19:27.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:27.17 | Lukian | Antiar1, actually I wanted a mod the other day |
| 19:27.24 | Lukian | which gives me a 'gross worth' |
| 19:27.28 | Lukian | for all my items |
| 19:27.45 | RaydenUni | ooooh |
| 19:27.48 | RaydenUni | BE Warlock? |
| 19:27.49 | CIA-8 | 03sylvanaar * r57687 10Prat/ (Prat.toc Prat_Modules/modules/ChannelNames.lua): Prat: Reduce core memory usage by ~300k by removing the built-in profiler. Eliminate extra table creations when updating the channelnames module's menu |
| 19:27.49 | Antiar1 | (I say that because I've put probably 95% of our guild bank's contents into it, and I'm wondering how much cash is sitting there) |
| 19:27.54 | RaydenUni | Soulace, play on "soul" |
| 19:27.59 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 19:28.01 | Lukian | awww cute |
| 19:28.03 | Antiar1 | Ugh, I hate names like that. |
| 19:28.08 | durcyn | Liberace, play on 'fruitbasket' |
| 19:28.22 | Ellipsis | /agree durcyn |
| 19:28.34 | RaydenUni | find the word for soul in another languag |
| 19:28.52 | Lukian | It'll be a priest though, I've already rolled warlock |
| 19:29.09 | Ellipsis | why let that stop you? |
| 19:29.15 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 19:29.19 | Lukian | haha |
| 19:29.41 | RaydenUni | so a friend of mine for some reason has this thing where he doesn't enjoy "evil" stuff in games |
| 19:29.54 | RaydenUni | he was upset that we were rolling horde as horde are evil |
| 19:29.58 | RaydenUni | so guess what he rolls? |
| 19:29.59 | Ellipsis | then make him play an alliance paladin |
| 19:30.04 | RaydenUni | undead warlock |
| 19:30.10 | Lukian | lol! |
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| 19:31.56 | [SW]Dodge | what is recommend if i want to make an unitframes addon like duf. using ace2 or already use ace3? and what about rock? is it a own framework or just something for configuration wit the gui? |
| 19:32.56 | KivinSan | rock is very close to ace2 in behavior. it's most notable difference (to me) is the RockConfig gui |
| 19:34.01 | Lukian | Name (characters on armory): Desolar (5), Solarace (6), Gusto (69), Zest (75) |
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| 19:34.39 | KivinSan | I ran into someone with the same name as me in a Lv70 Arathi Basin not too long ago >_< |
| 19:34.44 | [SW]Dodge | and what should i use? |
| 19:34.47 | KivinSan | It broke quite a few of my addons |
| 19:35.01 | Lukian | KivinSan, hahah nice |
| 19:35.05 | KivinSan | [SW]Dodge: Whatever you like. |
| 19:35.30 | KivinSan | Rock is the only framework I can attest to |
| 19:35.36 | KivinSan | Though ace2 seems to be doing just fine |
| 19:35.51 | Lukian | ace3 is getting there |
| 19:36.22 | KivinSan | Ye be a braver soul than I if you're willing to deploy an addon on a framework that's just "getting there'' :D |
| 19:39.39 | JoshBorke | [SW]Dodge: use whatever framework you want. I believe both Rock and Ace3 provide a consistent configuration gui for options defined for the framework |
| 19:40.04 | JoshBorke | [SW]Dodge: PitBull uses Rock and there is an Ace3 branch of ag_Unitframes if you'd like to take a look at 2 different unit frames |
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| 19:40.23 | KivinSan | Good luck understanding Ck's code :P |
| 19:40.41 | JoshBorke | i wouldn't necessarily recommend it for the code, but you could get an idea of what is possible with the options tables |
| 19:40.42 | KivinSan | I've dredged through a good portion of Pitbull and it makes me emo every time (//.x) |
| 19:41.02 | JoshBorke | <3 ag_uf |
| 19:41.27 | JoshBorke | the only thing i wanted in ag_uf that I had in pitbull was barfader, so i went ahead and wrote that for ag_uf |
| 19:43.09 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r57688 10Nauticus/ (5 files): |
| 19:43.09 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: |
| 19:43.09 | CIA-8 | - finally integrate fubar plugin into main addon object |
| 19:43.09 | CIA-8 | - unify fubar/titan code into NautUI.lua |
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| 19:48.41 | [SW]Dodge | JoshBorke: sry was afk, where can i get the code of the aguf ace3? svn? |
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| 19:49.36 | KivinSan | Try branch |
| 19:50.04 | dylanm | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ag_UnitFrames/Ace3/ |
| 19:50.27 | durcyn | fair warning, it's not ready for prime time yet |
| 19:50.53 | nevcairiel | yeah ag`_ got too busy to finish it yet :/ |
| 19:50.55 | [SW]Dodge | thanks |
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| 19:55.47 | JoshBorke | wtb bug list for ag_Uf |
| 19:56.08 | nevcairiel | a metric ton of missing options |
| 19:56.18 | KivinSan | Anyone familiar with the mod Pawn |
| 19:57.12 | JoshBorke | waiting on the spec to be updated before he's updating the options i believe |
| 19:59.18 | KivinSan | Hmmm... both AtlasLoot and Lootzor use the same tooltip:SetHyperlink() method to display item tooltips on mouse hover, yet Lootzor doesn't get Pawn data on the tooltips |
| 19:59.21 | KivinSan | Wonder what in the world I'm doing wrong |
| 19:59.57 | nevcairiel | maybe pawn doesnt support lootzor |
| 19:59.59 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:00.34 | KivinSan | I assumed Pawn hooks SetHyperlink |
| 20:01.07 | KivinSan | Perhaps the fairer question isn't what Lootzor is missing, but what Pawn is doing to choose tooltips |
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| 20:02.32 | KivinSan | aha: if AtlasLootTooltip then ... hook atlasloot tooltip ^^ |
| 20:04.04 | Fisker- | Another week, no barbie shield |
| 20:04.15 | KivinSan | barbie... shield o.o |
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| 20:05.26 | Fisker- | Aegies of the Vindicator |
| 20:05.27 | KivinSan | If I wanted to hack Lootzor into Pawn without changing the Pawn code... would I be better off setting Pawn as an optionaldep or testing ADDON_LOADED for Pawn? |
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| 20:05.47 | Fisker- | -e |
| 20:13.58 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 20:14.04 | Fisker- | when you kill winter revelers they change appearance |
| 20:14.12 | KivinSan | *blink* |
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| 20:26.47 | glowsticky | Anyone here any good with the SharedMedia addon? |
| 20:26.53 | glowsticky | I'm having trouble getting a font installed. |
| 20:27.05 | KivinSan | have you looked at the addon SharedMediaAdditionalFonts? |
| 20:27.27 | glowsticky | I have, but it didn't have any of the fonts I was looking for. |
| 20:27.34 | KivinSan | i mean, the code |
| 20:28.13 | glowsticky | Honestly, I was just following the little 'how to' thing inside SharedMedia |
| 20:28.21 | KivinSan | Look at the code for AdditionalFonts |
| 20:28.29 | KivinSan | It doesn't get much simpiler than that |
| 20:29.12 | glowsticky | Ah, ok cool. Didn't realize the core LUA was a tut. |
| 20:29.12 | krka | glowsticky: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 20:29.23 | glowsticky | Really? |
| 20:29.46 | KivinSan | really. |
| 20:30.14 | Xinhuan | C isn't an acronym either ;p |
| 20:30.29 | Xinhuan | it was named that because it followed a language called B |
| 20:30.42 | glowsticky | Well hotdamn. |
| 20:30.49 | glowsticky | Learn something new every day. |
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| 20:35.04 | Provus | Does anyone know of a working version of spell alert? WitchHunt isn't as good and Spell Alert SCT requires me to have scrolling battle text, which I don't want. |
| 20:35.18 | KivinSan | Well... I don't get it. I've examined all of Pawn and most of AtlasLoot... I don't get why i can't make Lootzor show pawn data |
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| 20:35.37 | Lukian | Provus, I use WitchHunt with Parrot (alternative to SCT) |
| 20:35.54 | Lukian | WitchHunt has *numerous* output options |
| 20:36.00 | Provus | Like I said |
| 20:36.02 | Provus | WitchHunt isn't as good. |
| 20:36.12 | Laric | what the difference then? |
| 20:36.17 | Lukian | It does exactly the same thing as SpellAlertSCT |
| 20:36.26 | Lukian | How can it not be as good? |
| 20:36.27 | Provus | It's got no filters, it's hard to customize, |
| 20:36.32 | Provus | and doesn't show a lot of casts. |
| 20:36.47 | Lukian | It shows everything for me, lol |
| 20:36.57 | nevcairiel | Write your own? :) |
| 20:36.59 | Provus | It mostly shows gains really. I had a friend of mine spam cancel frostbolt, it didn't pick any of it up. |
| 20:37.17 | Lukian | a hostile friend? |
| 20:37.18 | Provus | SpellAlert does everything I want, except function in 2.3 :/ |
| 20:37.22 | Provus | Yeah, in a duel. |
| 20:37.47 | Lukian | did it show in the combat log? |
| 20:37.54 | Provus | Wouldn't know. I use SimpleCombatLog. |
| 20:38.09 | nevcairiel | I dont think anyone will go through the trouble writing a new spell alert now, knowing that in 2 month or so it'll have to be rewritten entirely |
| 20:38.12 | Provus | Oh hey |
| 20:38.12 | Lukian | Then how do you know the combat log isn't at fault :D |
| 20:38.16 | Provus | I think this version of SpellAlert is working. |
| 20:38.25 | Lukian | Actually yeah, all of them will be broken with 2.4 |
| 20:38.34 | chiper | how do you do an OR in a macro conditional? |
| 20:38.43 | Provus | Yeah but mod authors won't hate to do combat log addons anymore.. |
| 20:38.44 | Lukian | [this] [that] |
| 20:38.53 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 20:38.57 | Provus | Anyway, I found a version of spell alert on wowinterface that seems to be working. |
| 20:39.11 | Lukian | indeed ^_^ |
| 20:39.12 | Gngsk | /cast [condition] this; that |
| 20:39.38 | nevcairiel | chiper: depends, you can do [stance:2/3] .. if its different types, you need to use two brackets [condition1][condition2] this |
| 20:39.42 | Gngsk | wait or, yeah |
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| 20:40.05 | durcyn | i thought it fired on first condition match |
| 20:40.08 | durcyn | you need to use commas |
| 20:40.12 | chiper | yeah, I wanted [noflyable][modifier:ctrl] |
| 20:40.20 | chiper | seems to be working |
| 20:40.25 | nevcairiel | its a inclusive or |
| 20:40.29 | nevcairiel | not xor .P |
| 20:42.15 | nevcairiel | wonder if you could trick it into xor /me trys |
| 20:42.49 | chiper | now I just need to get it to stop showing a questionmark when /dismount is the option |
| 20:43.03 | nevcairiel | do #showtooltip nameofmounthere |
| 20:43.36 | nevcairiel | do #showtooltip [flyable]flying mount; ground mount |
| 20:43.39 | nevcairiel | thats better :P |
| 20:44.05 | Provus | Well that's problematic. This version of SpellAlert is working but for some reason it's showing debuff fades. |
| 20:44.50 | chiper | ok, thanks |
| 20:45.41 | Lukian | BulkMail2: wtb option to automatically delete blizzard mailings. |
| 20:47.07 | Provus | Okay there we go, just turned off buff losses.. which I probably wouldn't have wanted on anyway. |
| 20:47.21 | Provus | Neat. It's working. |
| 20:47.37 | Provus | I'm surprised this beta 2.0 version of Spell Alert works. I guess there hasn't been any change of the code it's using |
| 20:47.41 | Provus | Not a single error. |
| 20:50.34 | *** join/#wowace potemkin (n=kollekti@c-71-232-111-118.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:52.52 | Lukian | It just hooks a few combat log 'event's and outputs them :p |
| 20:53.09 | Provus | It's really amazing how many people aren't interested in doing simple mods. |
| 20:53.12 | Lukian | not a terribly difficult addon to write |
| 20:53.22 | Provus | Look at NECB. That thing has far more bells and whistles than I care for. |
| 20:53.28 | Provus | Only damn mod that tracks diminishing returns. |
| 20:53.39 | Lukian | haha |
| 20:54.02 | *** join/#wowace nadas_ (n=nadas@n1.taur.dk) |
| 20:54.06 | Provus | Shadowed says he's going to do a super pvp combat log mod in 2.4 |
| 20:54.18 | Shadowed | no i'm doing it now |
| 20:54.30 | Provus | wut rly? |
| 20:54.32 | Xinhuan | what will be different? |
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| 20:54.43 | Xinhuan | and "pvp" means what? |
| 20:55.11 | Shadowed | sec |
| 20:55.33 | Provus | Players Versus Poor-balancing-decisions |
| 20:56.37 | durcyn | nah, player versus paper-rock-scissors |
| 20:56.44 | Provus | That works too. |
| 20:56.47 | Shadowed | it dpeends how much of a bitch combat log parsing is mostly |
| 20:57.00 | Provus | I sent you that link to MagicTrack Shadowed, did you get it? |
| 20:57.06 | Shadowed | you never sent me a link to it |
| 20:57.15 | Provus | It was a msg, let me fetch the link |
| 20:57.28 | Provus | http://files.filefront.com/MagicTrackrar/;9329567;/fileinfo.html |
| 20:57.49 | dylanm | I don't understand the hubub over magictrack... maybe I'm missing the incredible upside of it. |
| 20:58.03 | dylanm | Tons of BG9 people are like "OMG I HAF SECRET VERSION" |
| 20:58.09 | Provus | MagicTrack is a dream for healers and a nightmare for mages. |
| 20:58.20 | Provus | The 'secret version' is one line of code altered to give a party/raid warning |
| 20:58.26 | dylanm | Yeah that's what I gathered |
| 20:58.42 | Pkekyo| | what does magictrack actually do? |
| 20:58.43 | Provus | But anyway, MagicTrack is a big deal because.. well, no one else did a mod like MagicTrack. |
| 20:58.48 | Provus | It does a few things |
| 20:58.49 | dylanm | Does NECB not track the Cspell cd? |
| 20:58.50 | Provus | Let me give you the rundown. |
| 20:58.57 | Pkekyo| | please do |
| 20:59.11 | Shadowed | NECB is just ugly |
| 20:59.16 | Provus | First of all, important differences between NECB and MagicTrack's buff tracking. NECB uses giant ass bars which are hard to configure in a way that doesn't clutter the screen. |
| 20:59.18 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:59.21 | dylanm | I've only tried it in one arena :p |
| 20:59.25 | Shadowed | and Antongist doesn't track enough info |
| 20:59.40 | Provus | MagicTrack simply puts up the spell's icon, and the duration remaining |
| 20:59.41 | Pkekyo| | Provus: so it tracks enemy buffs? |
| 20:59.43 | dylanm | NECB has frickin' bosstimers in it |
| 20:59.46 | Provus | I'm not done yet. |
| 20:59.48 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 20:59.54 | Provus | That's the first feature. |
| 21:00.02 | dylanm | Shadowed: You're building your own too? Hurray. |
| 21:00.08 | Shadowed | one with less suck |
| 21:00.08 | Shadowed | mostly |
| 21:00.14 | Provus | The second feature is it denotes when you land an interrupt. Bigger of a deal than it sounds, since again very few addons do this that doesn't come with a bunch of other crap you don't awnt. |
| 21:00.16 | dylanm | Yours is most likely awesomer than mine so maybe I'll stop now :p |
| 21:00.17 | Shadowed | just need to get the motivation to work on combat log parsing |
| 21:00.25 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@122.57.249.167) |
| 21:00.28 | Shadowed | whats yours |
| 21:00.30 | Provus | But the third and most important feature is the spell lock and improved counterspell tracking. |
| 21:00.32 | dylanm | Yeah with 2.4 upcoming it's even harder |
| 21:00.43 | dylanm | to get one's self to deal with the current biatch |
| 21:00.46 | Provus | Whenever it sees spell lock or counterspelled - silenced on someone in your party or yourself |
| 21:00.49 | Provus | It starts a timer |
| 21:00.51 | Thrae | What's a simple bar mod out there? |
| 21:00.54 | Provus | And alerts you to it being used |
| 21:01.01 | Provus | Those are the three features, and they'er all important. |
| 21:01.03 | Provus | they're* |
| 21:01.06 | dylanm | Thrae: cogsbar?? |
| 21:01.20 | Pkekyo| | Provus: does it track stuff on hostiles as well? |
| 21:01.32 | Pkekyo| | you the author btw? |
| 21:01.34 | Thrae | I'll take a look...I just need something to scale and move buttons, etc. |
| 21:01.35 | Provus | Like I said, it tracks hostile buffs. Important ones. And no. |
| 21:01.40 | Provus | i wish. |
| 21:01.57 | Pkekyo| | doesn't track silence/spell lockdown on hostiles etc? |
| 21:01.58 | Xinhuan | it doesn't track "enemy buffs", it more so tracks "enemy cooldowns" |
| 21:02.02 | Provus | It will give you a Blessing of Freedom duration, Divine Shield duration, CloS duration, etc. These are all things NECB does, but the problem is, NECB is a package deal. |
| 21:02.06 | Provus | And Antagonist NEVER works for me :/ |
| 21:02.06 | Xinhuan | so if a mage uses Counterspell |
| 21:02.09 | *** join/#wowace Kastang (n=Kastang@unaffiliated/kastangmac/x-23985298) |
| 21:02.11 | Xinhuan | it'll show you the 24 secs |
| 21:02.14 | Tuller | Thrae: bongos! :) |
| 21:02.14 | Xinhuan | until its up again |
| 21:02.21 | Provus | Yes. |
| 21:02.27 | Shadowed | Antagonist works fine, it just doesn't track a whole lot of info |
| 21:02.27 | Xinhuan | so you will know when you can cast a big heal safely |
| 21:02.28 | Pkekyo| | who's the author then? |
| 21:02.30 | Shadowed | compared to NECB |
| 21:02.35 | Xinhuan | btw, i'm on BG9 |
| 21:02.40 | Provus | Someone named deedubbleyou aka dw |
| 21:02.45 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: so basicly it's more or less useless for a warr? |
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| 21:02.59 | Xinhuan | uh it does track most important cooldowns |
| 21:03.06 | Provus | A warrior would find it useful for alerting when you land a pummel |
| 21:03.14 | Provus | As well as tracking enemy buff durations |
| 21:03.17 | Xinhuan | things like counterspell, kick, anything with an interrupt kind of thing |
| 21:03.29 | Pkekyo| | yeah, but I kinda notice when I press pummel tbh |
| 21:03.31 | potemkin | you just delete everything you dont want in necb and its perfect |
| 21:03.37 | Provus | Healers find it especially useful though. Knowing when it's safe to cast a heal is a HUGE HUGE HUGE asset |
| 21:03.40 | dylanm | Tuller: I figured he knew about you :p |
| 21:03.48 | Provus | potemkin: That's the problem |
| 21:03.49 | Provus | You can't. |
| 21:03.55 | KivinSan | Who takes to take a stab at figuring out where AtlasLoot inherits RatingBuster's tooltip behavior from |
| 21:04.08 | potemkin | yes you can |
| 21:04.11 | Provus | You would have to basically butcher and rewrite a lot of code. |
| 21:04.24 | potemkin | you just go to |
| 21:04.26 | potemkin | the pvp module |
| 21:04.28 | dylanm | Unless the necb guy comes back to the game it's going to be a dead mod soon, no? |
| 21:04.29 | Provus | Plus, NECB uses BARS. Bars are nice for some things |
| 21:04.31 | potemkin | and delete every spell you dont want |
| 21:04.32 | Provus | But they clutter up the screen. |
| 21:04.34 | potemkin | in localization |
| 21:04.38 | potemkin | and itll only display those |
| 21:05.01 | Provus | potemkin: NECB does a lot of things that you can't turn off and it's a pain in the ass to get it all disabled. |
| 21:05.09 | Provus | And it still lacks two major features of MagicTrack |
| 21:05.23 | Thrae | WowAceUpdater failed miserably...woo-hoo. |
| 21:05.26 | potemkin | yeah i know |
| 21:05.33 | potemkin | but magictrack + necb is everything you need |
| 21:05.35 | Xinhuan | some arena groups i know use their own self-written version of magictrack written long long ago they they keep for their own team |
| 21:05.37 | Xinhuan | its not a big deal |
| 21:05.45 | dylanm | I mean with 2.4 it'll just break and I doubt anyone else understands that code. |
| 21:05.46 | Thrae | Oh, files.wowace.com isn't up. |
| 21:05.55 | potemkin | just delete a few lines in necb's localization and you got a divine shield,bof,iceblock..etc. tracker |
| 21:06.07 | Provus | 2.4's combat log changes will attract more combat log addons though |
| 21:06.09 | Provus | So it'll fix itself. |
| 21:06.19 | Xinhuan | not really Provus |
| 21:06.24 | nevcairiel | KivinSan: KivinLootzor on svn? |
| 21:06.24 | Xinhuan | i'll give an example |
| 21:06.27 | Provus | ..yeah really. |
| 21:06.33 | Xinhuan | lets say |
| 21:06.34 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: What about it |
| 21:06.40 | Xinhuan | there are 2 mages on my 5v5 team |
| 21:06.42 | Xinhuan | mage A and B |
| 21:06.44 | nevcairiel | KivinSan: the addon you're talking about, right? |
| 21:06.49 | Xinhuan | A casts sheep on some guy |
| 21:06.56 | Xinhuan | it shows up on combat log for both |
| 21:07.01 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: Yes. I've succeeded in getting Pawn supported, now working on RatingBuster |
| 21:07.06 | Provus | Look all I'm saying is for a long time I looked for MagicTrack. People asked for someone to make an addon similiar to it that was public. You know what mod authors said? |
| 21:07.11 | Xinhuan | before the cooldown (8 secs?) is over |
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| 21:07.13 | Provus | "No, combat log parsing is a pain in the ass." |
| 21:07.16 | Xinhuan | A resheeps the guy |
| 21:07.25 | nevcairiel | KivinSan: you need to add your tooltip to TipHookerLib |
| 21:07.25 | Xinhuan | the combat log will show nothing |
| 21:07.35 | Xinhuan | because it is a reapplied debuff |
| 21:07.57 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: ok, that's a start |
| 21:08.04 | Xinhuan | so mage B cannot tell the DR at all, without having both A and B having an addon |
| 21:08.07 | Xinhuan | and syncing with each other |
| 21:08.16 | Provus | ..MagicTrack doesn't track diminishing returns. |
| 21:08.21 | potemkin | just have them sync then |
| 21:08.24 | Provus | So that's kind of irrelevant |
| 21:08.26 | nevcairiel | KivinSan: just look at the file, there is a list of tooltips, just add yours there |
| 21:08.47 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: Okay, thank you. Would I be out of line to commit TipHookerLib with my addon in there? |
| 21:09.00 | CIA-8 | 03grayhoof * r57689 10Proximo/ (Proximo.lua Proximo.toc): Proximo: Minor cleanup |
| 21:09.17 | dylanm | Whoa |
| 21:09.20 | dylanm | Grayhoof |
| 21:09.32 | Provus | If MagicTrack breaks in 2.4 I'm going to learn LUA coding and fix it myself. |
| 21:09.32 | krka | Provus: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 21:09.59 | nevcairiel | KivinSan: no idea how the author of that lib handles that |
| 21:10.07 | dylanm | Provus: It most certainly will. |
| 21:10.16 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: It's grayhoof, don't suppose he comes around here? |
| 21:10.24 | KivinSan | oh wait, no it isn't |
| 21:10.25 | Xinhuan | yes, but you get the poinr i was making |
| 21:10.30 | nevcairiel | actually its whitetooth |
| 21:10.31 | KivinSan | Whitetooth@Cenarius |
| 21:10.33 | potemkin | how do |
| 21:10.35 | Xinhuan | just because 2.4 introduced some new combat log stuff |
| 21:10.41 | KivinSan | Maybe I'll have to pay him a visit on Cenarius |
| 21:10.41 | nevcairiel | ~seen whitetooth |
| 21:10.44 | purl | whitetooth <n=Whitetoo@59-127-64-40.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 202d 20h 23m 31s ago, saying: 'ok I can do that :p'. |
| 21:10.44 | potemkin | ppl get the paths to spell icons |
| 21:10.48 | Xinhuan | it doesn't mean things you couldn't do become doable |
| 21:10.49 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 21:10.49 | Provus | How, exactly is 2.4 giong to break combat log parsing? |
| 21:10.49 | KivinSan | rofl... |
| 21:11.10 | nevcairiel | its more a question of "how not" |
| 21:11.22 | nevcairiel | The combatlog as you know it will cease to exist. |
| 21:11.24 | KivinSan | Provus: At the moment, you can hook actual combat log messages "You gain Water Shield." |
| 21:11.30 | KivinSan | in 2.3, you'll instead hook combat log notifications |
| 21:11.32 | nevcairiel | so, all addons using said combatlog will cease to work. |
| 21:11.34 | KivinSan | 2.4* |
| 21:11.42 | Provus | That won't be that different though. MagicTrack is not a large addon |
| 21:11.48 | Provus | It shouldn't be too big of a deal. |
| 21:11.53 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 21:11.55 | KivinSan | nevcairiel: TipHookerLib worked perfect. thank you. |
| 21:11.58 | nevcairiel | still someone has to do it :) |
| 21:12.00 | Provus | If they listed the exact changes I could probably figure out how to fix it |
| 21:12.11 | Provus | Without learning anything |
| 21:12.25 | nevcairiel | there will be alot of detailed information about the new combat log |
| 21:12.36 | Provus | Yeah, so it'll probably be an easy fix |
| 21:12.40 | Xinhuan | KivinSan, if you want most addons out there to add tooltip info to your tooltip, you should be using GameTooltip |
| 21:12.42 | Xinhuan | not your own tooltip |
| 21:12.44 | nevcairiel | but if you dont know Lua or coding addons, you will probably fail. |
| 21:13.07 | nevcairiel | the new combatlog will be extensive |
| 21:13.13 | nevcairiel | new events, new API, new anything |
| 21:13.21 | nevcairiel | not like changing the text pattern or sth :P |
| 21:13.28 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: *shrug* Maybe, though it works for everyone else to duplicate the tooltip |
| 21:13.31 | Provus | Again, you're talking like the new combat log parsing is going to undergo a rocket science change. |
| 21:13.39 | durcyn | Provus: it is |
| 21:13.41 | nevcairiel | It will, actually |
| 21:13.44 | Lukian | it is |
| 21:13.45 | Provus | How? |
| 21:13.46 | KivinSan | Well, whitetooth is a level 60 gnome in BWL Gear. It looks like he hasn't been played in a while :P |
| 21:13.48 | Xinhuan | no, because most addons only work because they author specifically chose to support it |
| 21:13.53 | Tuller | only the rockets are going to go from being tires to being magic brooms |
| 21:13.59 | Xinhuan | for eg, most addons now support AtlasLootTooltip |
| 21:14.04 | KivinSan | Xinhuan: Which is what i'm... specifically don't |
| 21:14.05 | KivinSan | doing* |
| 21:14.06 | Provus | I don't see how they could screw up combat log parsing. |
| 21:14.15 | Xinhuan | because the authors manually add the support |
| 21:14.20 | KivinSan | which is what i'm doing |
| 21:14.28 | durcyn | Provus: combat log parsing will cease to exist. |
| 21:14.33 | Xinhuan | it depends on what you want |
| 21:14.38 | nevcairiel | Provus: because the combat log will no longer be a text log like it is now |
| 21:14.49 | Xinhuan | if you are creating a tooltip, and you want others to add info to it, use GameTooltip |
| 21:14.59 | nevcairiel | it'll be a detailed log with detailed information, not only one text line per event. |
| 21:15.04 | Xinhuan | if you don't want others to add to it, use your own GTT object |
| 21:15.14 | Provus | Nev: Wouldn't it be a matter of just figuring out which strings are what? |
| 21:15.21 | nevcairiel | no. |
| 21:15.23 | Provus | Why? |
| 21:15.49 | Lukian | I don't think Provus understands the event driven nature of Lua in wow. |
| 21:16.05 | nevcairiel | Because it'll contain spell ids, player ids, event ids, etc, which require API calls to resolve, and not only strings. |
| 21:16.36 | Provus | Can't it just search the combat log for spell id's then? |
| 21:16.51 | Lukian | that's a major change right there :p |
| 21:16.57 | nevcairiel | Sure you can |
| 21:17.03 | durcyn | it's not just a matter of changing a regexp, is the point |
| 21:17.16 | Shirik | it's never a matter of just changing a regexp |
| 21:17.16 | CIA-8 | 03trasher * r57690 10Proximo/locals/localization-frFR.lua: |
| 21:17.16 | CIA-8 | Proximo: |
| 21:17.17 | CIA-8 | - Update French |
| 21:17.19 | Lukian | if by search you mean 'watch for' |
| 21:17.21 | Shirik | because regexes do not exist in Lua natively |
| 21:17.31 | nevcairiel | My point is, someone without knowledge of Lua or the WoW API will probalby fail |
| 21:17.35 | nevcairiel | ~lart Shirik |
| 21:17.35 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of Shirik's pants |
| 21:17.38 | Shirik | hey |
| 21:17.41 | Shirik | it's the truth |
| 21:17.48 | Shirik | Lua does not have regexes, it has patterns |
| 21:17.56 | nevcairiel | we know |
| 21:18.03 | durcyn | ~whalecrit Shirik |
| 21:18.04 | purl | ACTION crits Shirik with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Shirik dies |
| 21:18.07 | Provus | The first combat log parser addon released in 2.4 would probably tell me all I need to know. |
| 21:18.07 | nevcairiel | but regexp is shorter then lua pattern |
| 21:18.08 | Pkekyo| | what is a grit? |
| 21:18.12 | Shirik | then get it right, and I won't be mad :P |
| 21:18.22 | Shirik | lua> #("pattern") - #("regexp") |
| 21:18.26 | Provus | If one comes out in 2.4.. |
| 21:18.29 | Shirik | ..... |
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| 21:18.35 | nevcairiel | no bot here |
| 21:18.39 | Shirik | someone broke it again?! |
| 21:18.48 | Shirik | oh wait this is totally not #wowi-lounge |
| 21:18.49 | nevcairiel | nah clad removed it from this chan iirc |
| 21:18.51 | Lukian | Shirik, PM it |
| 21:18.59 | Pkekyo| | ~dict grit |
| 21:19.02 | Shirik | I am not trying to initiate a PM in this damn client |
| 21:19.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:19.16 | Shirik | Pkekyo|: It's a breakfast ... food |
| 21:19.29 | Pkekyo| | Shirik: oh...thanks |
| 21:19.29 | Shirik | don't really even know how to describe it |
| 21:19.31 | Lukian | haha cgiirc |
| 21:19.38 | Shirik | on hotel wireless no less |
| 21:19.41 | Shirik | while running wow |
| 21:19.48 | Shirik | on a computer with integrated graphics |
| 21:19.51 | Lukian | flaky much? :D |
| 21:19.56 | Shirik | on a pentium M |
| 21:19.59 | Shirik | 1.4GHz |
| 21:19.59 | Provus | Okay I know what I'll do |
| 21:20.04 | Shirik | should I stop or keep going? |
| 21:20.13 | Provus | If 2.4 comes out and no one has fixed MagicTrack, I'll pay someone in here $20 to do it. It's not a large addon, lawl. |
| 21:20.15 | nevcairiel | with Windows ME? |
| 21:20.19 | Shirik | no it's XP >< |
| 21:20.50 | Lukian | Droolio, nauticus needs some publicity :D |
| 21:21.04 | Lukian | there's like maybe 6 people tops using it on my realm |
| 21:21.18 | nevcairiel | whats nauticus? |
| 21:21.21 | Droolio | i agree |
| 21:21.28 | Droolio | gogo advertise |
| 21:21.29 | nevcairiel | sounds like a cosmos thing |
| 21:21.32 | Provus | Tell me of this nauticus |
| 21:21.51 | Provus | What doth it doeth |
| 21:22.01 | vithos | i liked nauticus, but its chat messages kept not being hidden, which got annoying |
| 21:22.06 | Lukian | Let's you know when boats / zepplins are coming |
| 21:22.11 | Droolio | http://drool.me.uk/naut |
| 21:22.23 | Provus | Oh, that's it? |
| 21:22.24 | Droolio | vithos: that should be fixed tbh |
| 21:22.35 | vithos | i'll try it again then :) |
| 21:22.35 | nevcairiel | oh what do i care, just to figure out that i have to wait before i arrive at the boat :P |
| 21:22.36 | Provus | I'm a mage, /cast teleport: city lawl |
| 21:22.40 | Lukian | vithos, I noted that issue too, but it's fine now |
| 21:22.58 | Shirik | nevcairiel: it's so that you can determine that whole "can I buy this before heading out to the zep?" etc |
| 21:23.03 | Provus | What someone should do is add a debuff filter to quarts :| |
| 21:23.12 | Lukian | or 'can I go for a crap while waiting' |
| 21:23.17 | Shirik | quartz* and there's nothing stopping you from doing it |
| 21:23.29 | Droolio | it'll have more use when the next expansion arrives. so long as blizz don't break anything |
| 21:23.48 | nevcairiel | Shirik: meh, i basicly cross to kalimdor once a week for our hyjal raid, no addon for that 1 occasion of boat travel :P |
| 21:24.00 | Shirik | yeah that's how I feel :P |
| 21:24.06 | Droolio | Lukian: btw is the titan bit working ok for you? |
| 21:24.11 | Lukian | Droolio, support for flight times (hook tofu) and fastest land travel from nearest flight master to the boat would be neat :) |
| 21:24.24 | Lukian | titan? |
| 21:24.27 | Lukian | I use fubar |
| 21:24.43 | Droolio | ahh i confused you with Lothaer soz :) |
| 21:25.08 | Droolio | i merged the code so they use Dewdrop and Tablet |
| 21:25.13 | Provus | Titan is yuck. |
| 21:25.16 | Droolio | both that is |
| 21:25.21 | Droolio | it is indeed |
| 21:25.50 | Thrae | Wow...MrPlow certainly requires a lot of crap nowadays |
| 21:25.51 | Droolio | tho the framework is very minimal now that i use the fubar way of rendering the menu/tooltip |
| 21:25.52 | Lukian | I love the addition of transport names |
| 21:25.53 | Provus | On a happy note, I found a version of SpellAlert (that isn't SCT) that still works: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6547-SpellAlertmodifiedagain.html |
| 21:26.00 | Provus | Haven't got a single LUA error yet |
| 21:26.14 | nevcairiel | errors turned off? |
| 21:26.22 | nevcairiel | and its still "Lua" |
| 21:26.31 | Provus | The only quirk is that it counts debuff losses as buff losses as well so you'll probably have to turn buff losses off |
| 21:26.49 | Provus | No, I turned that feature off to see if it would give me any errors |
| 21:27.08 | Provus | And I say LUA cause it's an extension. |
| 21:27.42 | Shirik | ~lart Provus |
| 21:27.42 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Provus |
| 21:27.44 | Lukian | and you type all your filext's in uppercase? |
| 21:27.47 | nevcairiel | its the name of the programming language, which is Lua, a real name, not an acronym |
| 21:27.53 | Provus | If Blizzard can capitalize it, I can too. |
| 21:28.00 | Shirik | Sure you can |
| 21:28.03 | Shirik | I can also hate you forever |
| 21:28.10 | Lukian | <3 |
| 21:28.35 | nevcairiel | Where does blizz capitalize it? |
| 21:28.47 | Shirik|AFK | in their job openings |
| 21:28.49 | Shirik|AFK | made me laugh |
| 21:28.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 21:30.42 | Provus | They capitalize it moer than that. They've done it a few times on their forums and they do it a lot on their support pages. |
| 21:30.46 | Provus | more |
| 21:31.53 | Vulcanus | moar* |
| 21:32.22 | Lukian | yeah but those are PR people |
| 21:32.31 | Lukian | they don't know any better |
| 21:32.32 | Lukian | you do. |
| 21:33.08 | Provus | It's consistent with everything else in the world |
| 21:33.16 | Provus | That's why I say atleast. |
| 21:35.28 | Xinhuan | Provus: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10582.msg168349#msg168349 |
| 21:35.29 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:36.06 | Provus | What's this got to do with anything |
| 21:36.26 | Xinhuan | nothing hehe |
| 21:36.32 | Xinhuan | just a tidbit to read! |
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| 21:36.58 | CIA-8 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r57691 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (ActionBarPrototype.lua ActionBars.lua Bar.lua Button.lua): |
| 21:36.58 | CIA-8 | Bartender4: |
| 21:36.58 | CIA-8 | - Button: added action drag support |
| 21:36.58 | CIA-8 | - Button: added show grid option |
| 21:36.58 | CIA-8 | - Options: cleanup and sorting |
| 21:37.01 | Xinhuan | it somewhat overlaps tracking enemy cooldowns |
| 21:37.10 | Xinhuan | because some stuff doesn't get reported into the combat log |
| 21:37.16 | Xinhuan | if it is applied on an existing effect |
| 21:37.29 | Erica | How can I get the following to show up in PItbull... proper dogtag syntax? "Group Number X" |
| 21:38.13 | Erica | where is is the actual number and I'd like to color it according to the unit's health status |
| 21:38.25 | Erica | where x rather |
| 21:42.20 | Thrae | OK, so what does everyone use to autocomplete names? |
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| 21:42.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: my lightning fast typist skills |
| 21:42.42 | Tuller | nothing! :) |
| 21:42.52 | nevcairiel | i concur |
| 21:42.57 | Erica | lol |
| 21:42.57 | Lukian | <3 bartender4, any other bar authors working on ace3 support yet? :p |
| 21:43.06 | Tuller | eventually :P |
| 21:43.16 | Thrae | Well, sometimes people have like 32-character names, and it's easier to autocomplete ;) |
| 21:43.19 | nevcairiel | nah Tuller is not, he hides behind is new desk job |
| 21:43.25 | Erica | Hope you guys had a good Christmas btw :) |
| 21:43.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: do you mean in wow, or irc? :P |
| 21:43.32 | Thrae | There used to be teknicolor_tab, but seems that's gone. |
| 21:43.34 | Lukian | Thrae, prat does it |
| 21:43.36 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: WoW, duh |
| 21:43.43 | Lukian | found that nifty feature just today |
| 21:43.49 | Thrae | Lukian: I don't want to use Prat for 1 module |
| 21:43.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well, then i just use an abbreviation instead of typing out huge names. :P |
| 21:44.08 | Tuller | nevcairiel: you know at work I came up with a crazy but somewhat clean way of doing buttons that dynamically change their type :P |
| 21:44.09 | Erica | it's LoD so it's not a biggie to use only one really |
| 21:44.11 | Tuller | nevcairiel: switch metatables :P |
| 21:44.11 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: For whispers |
| 21:44.41 | Thrae | Eh, I guess I'll have to use Prat |
| 21:44.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: hmm, tell target, right click -> send message, or the send message button in guild/lfg? :P |
| 21:45.03 | Lukian | prat is useful if you disable the useless modules ^_^ |
| 21:45.06 | Erica | I only use a few modules but I can't find the functionality any where else |
| 21:45.26 | nevcairiel | Tuller: uh^^ |
| 21:45.31 | Thrae | I mean, sylvanaar and me disagree on how to make a modular structure, but I have 4GB of DDR2 1026Mhz RAM anyway |
| 21:45.41 | Thrae | As AL always said, "I have the memory why not use it" |
| 21:45.53 | Lukian | Thrae, do you often message them first? |
| 21:46.16 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: In PvP things can get testy |
| 21:46.22 | Tuller | nevcairiel: err essentially, when you place a button, and go from one type to another, switch all of its methods to be macro or spell or item, etc |
| 21:46.37 | Tuller | nevcairiel: to get around having to write a billion if statements |
| 21:47.21 | nevcairiel | yeah the idea doesnt sound too bad |
| 21:47.37 | Tuller | it just requires doing things :P |
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| 21:50.58 | RaydenUni | where do i get first aid training past 150 for horde? |
| 21:51.40 | sylvanaar | Thrae if you want to rewrite prat's module system you can. I just made it so you dont have to use memory on modules you dont use, i dunno what else it needs |
| 21:52.18 | Thrae | sylvanaar: We'll see how my own module system turns out, if I ever code again |
| 21:52.39 | RaydenUni | oh book |
| 21:52.48 | Thrae | sylvanaar: I wasn't dissing your code or anything. |
| 21:52.57 | sylvanaar | its ok, im not offended |
| 21:54.07 | Stanzilla | I suggested this, like half an hour ago http://ace.pastey.net/79810 |
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| 21:55.45 | Thrae | sylvanaar: I always envisioned a LoD module system with a multiple stage approach -- stage1 has commonly used, light modules that require no libs, stage2 has heftier modules that require libs. Of course with Prat I think you can turn any module LoD, but I was thinking of the common dumb user ;) |
| 21:56.08 | Xinhuan | why does that sound complex to me |
| 21:56.25 | Thrae | A few tiny changes by slouken would make my approach obsolete, of course |
| 21:56.42 | Stanzilla | look at my pastey :D |
| 21:57.26 | Thrae | Stanzilla: That'd work if WowAceUpdater was working |
| 21:57.35 | Stanzilla | it is |
| 21:57.44 | Stanzilla | it's the same system pitbull and bigwigs uses |
| 21:57.50 | Thrae | The one I downloaded tries to contact files.wowace.com and fails |
| 21:58.07 | Xinhuan | wowace also died at about the same time yesterday didn't it? |
| 21:58.25 | Stanzilla | Thrae: http://www.wowace.com/wau/Install_WAU.zip |
| 21:58.34 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r746 10/trunk/Panda/DETooltip.lua: Panda - Add most common DE result to tooltip |
| 21:58.41 | Thrae | Stanzilla: That's what I'm using |
| 21:59.39 | Stanzilla | hm maybe you tried it when wowace was down like Xinhuan said |
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| 22:00.39 | sylvanaar | what is it that you find so confusing about "autolod"? It just remembers which modules you use, and only loads those at startup. You can load the rest if you need them at any time. |
| 22:03.11 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Does Prat default to some crazy Prat theme when you first login? |
| 22:03.32 | Erica | Prat's a lot better than it used to be if you haven't tried it recently |
| 22:03.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, the "classic prat" theme - i dont use that |
| 22:03.49 | sylvanaar | there is a Presets menu with some other setups |
| 22:03.59 | Erica | Just start with the theme of all modules off |
| 22:04.02 | Thrae | Prat has so many modules, I always thought it'd be best to have the default as "Nothing enabled" |
| 22:05.37 | khangg | i just use idchat |
| 22:06.06 | Thrae | khangg: Did he ever put in AutoComplete? |
| 22:06.24 | khangg | nope |
| 22:06.26 | sylvanaar | that would require using memory |
| 22:06.36 | khangg | doesn't bother me much |
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| 22:15.48 | JensRex | Hay guise! |
| 22:15.51 | khangg | yoyo |
| 22:16.00 | JensRex | What creature most resembles a pig? |
| 22:16.10 | Xinhuan | boar |
| 22:16.14 | JensRex | I've just got my hunter to level 10, and I want a pig pet to call Spiderpig :) |
| 22:16.33 | JensRex | "...does whatever Spider Pig does." |
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| 22:16.47 | JensRex | "Can he swing, from a web, no he can't, he's a pig..." |
| 22:17.26 | dylanm | There are a lot of boars |
| 22:17.26 | JensRex | I'm playing hunter for the first time, on horde side for the first time. So basically, I have no idea what I'm doing :) |
| 22:17.41 | dylanm | Just look at http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/families/family_boar.shtml |
| 22:17.49 | Xinhuan | lol sylvanaar, i just noticed you found out what is taking up 300k ram in prat |
| 22:17.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: fail, the correct answer there was "Your mom." |
| 22:18.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, its noticably smaller |
| 22:19.01 | Xinhuan | what if you took out all the debugging code too? |
| 22:19.09 | Xinhuan | commented them out |
| 22:19.16 | sylvanaar | well |
| 22:19.21 | Xinhuan | instead of using a debug flag |
| 22:19.27 | testify | Is there any way to disable recount when you're in a BG or arena? |
| 22:19.54 | Xinhuan | worth a shot? heh |
| 22:21.42 | Xinhuan | http://news.mmosite.com/content/2007-12-15/20071215012745614,1.shtml |
| 22:21.44 | Xinhuan | wow look at that |
| 22:22.03 | Xinhuan | they even have an onyxia raid doll screenshot |
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| 22:23.24 | sylvanaar | well, consider that 33 modules can become 900k very quickly, and that each module also uses memory from the core too. I can pretty much account for where the rest of the memory is being used now |
| 22:24.25 | sylvanaar | I should retest the memory use with all modules disabled via "autolod" |
| 22:26.03 | NightHawkTheSane | huh |
| 22:26.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I just found out i have tomorrow and tuesday off from work. |
| 22:26.12 | NightHawkTheSane | woo. |
| 22:29.25 | sylvanaar | Prat 293k Prat_Modules 83k (with 0 modules loaded). thats not bad really |
| 22:30.38 | sylvanaar | See the overhead of having 30+ individual LoD modules in thier own folder is > 83k (at least that was my observation) |
| 22:31.23 | Xinhuan | but what about that debug code ;p |
| 22:32.14 | Xinhuan | commenting them out code cut another 50k for all i know (didn't look at code) |
| 22:32.23 | Xinhuan | could* cut |
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| 22:41.08 | sylvanaar | yeah, you have a point - how much do you think the debug code is really using? I think its minimal. Prat's biggest memory issue is with the options menus |
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| 22:56.37 | evl-blend | Tekkub: has SE-mail been updated in a while? |
| 22:56.59 | Tekkub | fuck if I know, I use the default mailframe now |
| 22:57.00 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r57692 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquipData.lua localization.deDE.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Add 20 agility 1-hand enchant. |
| 22:57.13 | evl-blend | Tekkub: I mean the library, for detecting new mail etc. |
| 22:57.24 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, i think the best way to find out is only to actually try it |
| 22:59.03 | sylvanaar | yeah - just do the math though Prat_Modules has 33 modules. If each one takes 20-30k, that accounts for what I see. |
| 22:59.25 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGEJDKJdPGg |
| 22:59.27 | Xinhuan | not all modules take the same amount of memory |
| 22:59.34 | sylvanaar | at 0 modules Prat_Modules takes 90k, and 27 it takes about 900k |
| 23:00.20 | sylvanaar | most of the modules spend 10-20k on their options menus |
| 23:00.59 | khangg | i use fu_mailfu |
| 23:01.04 | khangg | oh |
| 23:01.05 | khangg | and postal |
| 23:05.51 | Pkekyo| | where to level up at lvl 50? |
| 23:06.54 | Xinhuan | finish up tanaris |
| 23:06.59 | Xinhuan | and move on to ungoro |
| 23:07.02 | Xinhuan | and do WPL |
| 23:07.22 | Xinhuan | feralas is ok too still some high 40 quests |
| 23:07.29 | Xinhuan | and a few low 50 ones |
| 23:09.37 | khangg | i didn't do WPL |
| 23:09.42 | khangg | felwood instead here |
| 23:09.44 | Antiarc | http://www.papertoilet.com/ |
| 23:10.11 | Pkekyo| | allready cleaned out tanaris and feralas |
| 23:10.22 | Pkekyo| | not going un'goro unless I run out of lvl 50-60mobs |
| 23:11.21 | Pkekyo| | that huge dinosaur bastard scared the shit outta me for the last time a long time ago |
| 23:12.14 | khangg | felwood? |
| 23:12.28 | Pkekyo| | think I'll go WPL tbh |
| 23:12.44 | khangg | blasted lands |
| 23:12.45 | khangg | imo |
| 23:12.49 | khangg | i went there too |
| 23:12.54 | khangg | good xp there :) |
| 23:13.26 | Pkekyo| | I wanna respecc....but it's so fucking expensive :< |
| 23:13.45 | khangg | how much is your respec fee? |
| 23:14.02 | Pkekyo| | it's the retraining of spells that's expensive...respecc fee is 5g or so |
| 23:14.39 | khangg | ah |
| 23:14.59 | khangg | spells were onyl like 20s when i respecced from BM to MM at 69 |
| 23:15.20 | Pkekyo| | mages spend a bit more I'd imagine |
| 23:15.45 | khangg | yeah |
| 23:15.58 | khangg | i only had to get scatter shot, aimed shot and silencing shot again |
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| 23:19.57 | Pkekyo| | actually, I only had to train one new spell...wtf |
| 23:22.35 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, I saw you added +20 agi to one hand, you should add the new adamantite weapon chain too |
| 23:22.46 | Xinhuan | who makes it |
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| 23:22.50 | Xinhuan | i mean where is it from |
| 23:22.50 | Pkekyo| | blacksmiths |
| 23:22.53 | Gngsk | ^ |
| 23:23.05 | Pkekyo| | please tell, where does it drop? |
| 23:23.06 | Xinhuan | plans is from..? |
| 23:23.11 | Gngsk | random world drop |
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| 23:23.44 | Xinhuan | are you sure the item is called "adamantite weapon chain" ? |
| 23:23.59 | Gngsk | yes |
| 23:24.13 | Gngsk | http://tinyURL.com/2w6jhh |
| 23:24.20 | Xinhuan | because its not in my lootlink of 64456 items |
| 23:24.46 | Gngsk | it was only added in 2.3 |
| 23:25.02 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57693 10KivinLootzor/ (Gui.lua KivinLootzor.toc): |
| 23:25.02 | CIA-8 | KivinLootzor: |
| 23:25.02 | CIA-8 | - Changed visible tooltip to GameTooltip for compatibility with other addons. |
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| 23:25.15 | Gngsk | plans haven't even dropped on some servers, which is pretty gay becuase it's a nice buff up from the old weapon chain |
| 23:25.25 | Elkano | it was so fun when we could 'mine' all items from server *cry* |
| 23:25.31 | Gngsk | gives people on servers where it has dropped a slight advantage in arenas |
| 23:25.35 | Xinhuan | so this is a random instance drop? |
| 23:25.40 | Gngsk | random world |
| 23:25.58 | Gngsk | can drop of appropriate level mobs outside in the world but more often off instance elites |
| 23:26.22 | Xinhuan | in order for me to add it to wowequip, i need the enchantID of that enchant |
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| 23:26.27 | Xinhuan | can you obtain that? |
| 23:26.27 | Gngsk | if you have sniff you can do a /item 33815 |
| 23:26.59 | Gngsk | 42687? http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42687 |
| 23:27.02 | Xinhuan | i have better than sniff, wowequip has a built-in itemID scanner ;p |
| 23:27.13 | Xinhuan | no, i need the enchantID |
| 23:27.18 | Xinhuan | the number in the itemlink |
| 23:27.21 | Xinhuan | in the 2nd part |
| 23:28.01 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07LibHealComm-3.0 * r57694 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 23:28.01 | CIA-8 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 23:28.01 | CIA-8 | - Simple protection against bad arguments on public interface. |
| 23:28.01 | CIA-8 | - Caching of heal modifier (keeps track of buffs/debuffs). |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-8 | - Added heal end time to most callbacks. |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-8 | - Added heal modifier (from buffs/debuffs) to most callbacks. |
| 23:28.04 | CIA-8 | - New callback to notify when heal modifier changes. |
| 23:29.10 | Xinhuan | sniffing IDs 33815 and 33816 reveals nothing on my server lol! |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-8 | 03mikk 07Beta * r57695 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceTimer: |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-8 | - ACE-94: We now incrementally reclaim memory used by AceTimer.selfs[] on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED events (if deemed necessary). Every 250 timer regs (max ~10KB slosh indices) the table is recreated. |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-8 | - We now output a warning if an addon/module is seen to have "lots of timers" |
| 23:29.46 | CIA-8 | registered (currently defined as ==BUCKETS, 131). This problem has been seen in |
| 23:29.48 | Xinhuan | means nobody can make it |
| 23:29.50 | CIA-8 | enough addons to justify the warning, imnsho. It's also damn cheap to do inside |
| 23:29.52 | CIA-8 | the cleaner. |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-8 | 03xbeeps 07Ace3 * r57696 10VisualHeal/ (PitBull_VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.toc): |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-8 | VisualHeal: |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-8 | - Added PitBull plugin, to allow integration into Unit Frames |
| 23:32.44 | CIA-8 | - Adapted to changes in LibHealComm-3.0 (integration of buff/debuff tracking) |
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| 23:39.15 | Megalon | Xinhuan: 3223: Adamantite Weapon Chain |
| 23:39.19 | Megalon | EnchantID |
| 23:39.30 | Xinhuan | i'll test it now Megalon |
| 23:39.45 | Megalon | i tested enchantid's 1-5000 ;) |
| 23:40.05 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 23:40.10 | Xinhuan | i didn't go to that extent |
| 23:40.15 | Xinhuan | that is accurate enough |
| 23:40.25 | Xinhuan | but for many common enchants, that method fails |
| 23:40.35 | Xinhuan | because of similar text |
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| 23:40.58 | Xinhuan | a glove +15 agi enchantID is different from a weapon +15 enchantID ;p |
| 23:41.30 | Megalon | 883 vs 2564 vs 2618? ;) |
| 23:41.50 | Xinhuan | yeah, so i kinda just inspected 200 mil people for some of my data |
| 23:42.07 | Xinhuan | it turned out that the 6mp5 chest enchant is different if you cast it on a plate item vs a non-plate item |
| 23:42.15 | Xinhuan | gives different enchantID |
| 23:42.17 | Megalon | lol? |
| 23:42.20 | Xinhuan | yes its lol |
| 23:42.20 | Antiarc | How bizarre. |
| 23:42.45 | Xinhuan | so my code kinda had to account for that |
| 23:43.17 | Xinhuan | feel free to verify this hehe |
| 23:44.30 | Xinhuan | care to help me get the icon texture file for that ada weap chain too? item:33185 doesn't exist on my server |
| 23:44.58 | Antiarc | It's the same as the weapon chain |
| 23:44.59 | Megalon | well |
| 23:45.02 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=weapon%20chain |
| 23:45.04 | Megalon | if you tell me how |
| 23:45.08 | Megalon | ok, then ;) |
| 23:45.15 | Pkekyo| | anyone know how you can get keybindings to show on the BT3 pet bar? |
| 23:45.21 | Xinhuan | /print GetItemInfo(33185) |
| 23:45.43 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: u sure bout that |
| 23:45.44 | Xinhuan | assuming its in your local cache |
| 23:45.48 | Megalon | spell_frost_chainsofice |
| 23:45.59 | Xinhuan | ok thx |
| 23:46.10 | Orionshock | how do you quiry it if it's not in local cache |
| 23:46.14 | Antiarc | I'm cooking beef stew and it smells amazing and is making the whole apartment smell wonderful and it won't be ready for eating for another four hours :( |
| 23:46.20 | Megalon | well, someone can make it on my realm |
| 23:46.40 | Xinhuan | you do /run GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:33185") if its not in your local cache |
| 23:46.52 | Megalon | i already checked for the tooltip ;) |
| 23:47.00 | Megalon | with itemmagic |
| 23:47.01 | Xinhuan | yeah but Orionshock asked ;p |
| 23:47.09 | Megalon | oh :s |
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| 23:54.30 | Xinhuan | another question |
| 23:54.36 | Xinhuan | Endurance - tauren passive, Max Health increased by 5% |
| 23:54.46 | Xinhuan | is that 5% added after calculating everything? |
| 23:54.53 | Orionshock | base iirc |
| 23:55.00 | Xinhuan | meaning a +100 hp chest enchant becomes 105? |
| 23:55.19 | Orionshock | no i think it's a flat 5% to base HP |
| 23:55.29 | Xinhuan | can a tauren confirm? |
| 23:55.37 | CIA-8 | 03sayclub * r57697 10Proximo/locals/localization-koKR.lua: Proximo: - koKR Update |
| 23:55.40 | Orionshock | i could but im on my alt |
| 23:55.42 | Xinhuan | base hp isn't quite the same |
| 23:55.50 | Xinhuan | when your gear's +stamina gets that bonus |
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| 23:59.59 | Megalon | it's +5% to everything |
