| 00:00.05 | Xinhuan | do you consider big config menus a HUD? |
| 00:00.11 | Kivin | nono |
| 00:00.19 | Kivin | In gatherer, I can have it paint the nodes on my 3D world |
| 00:00.33 | Kivin | Rather than the map |
| 00:00.42 | Xinhuan | alright cart doesn't do that |
| 00:00.44 | Kivin | And it has a red streak that shows where i've been over the last 10 minutes |
| 00:00.51 | Xinhuan | but _Routes > HUD |
| 00:01.00 | Kivin | *Shrug* each to their own |
| 00:01.12 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp.jpg screenshot of _Routes in action |
| 00:01.44 | dylanm | Xinhuan I think you like taking screenshots just to show off the ballin' gold count |
| 00:02.04 | Xinhuan | actually i have more gold 2 days ago than i do now |
| 00:02.05 | CIA-8 | 03kivin * r57614 10KivinConsoleXP/consoleXP.lua: KivinConsoleXP: Text colours now properly displayed on XP/Hr line. |
| 00:02.12 | Xinhuan | i purchased a Darkmoon Blessings deck |
| 00:02.15 | Osstia|home | hahaha |
| 00:02.20 | Kivin | CIA-8: Only took you 2 hours |
| 00:02.33 | Osstia|home | that arrow is goofy |
| 00:02.45 | Xinhuan | that arrow is off by default ;p |
| 00:02.51 | Xinhuan | it takes effort to turn it on |
| 00:02.57 | Osstia|home | haha |
| 00:03.03 | Osstia|home | I heard you talking about it this morning |
| 00:03.39 | dylanm | Everyone loves crazy taxi right |
| 00:03.52 | Xinhuan | i would be fairly interested in porting _Routes to mapster if ammo ever starts writing _herb and other modules for that one |
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| 00:21.41 | aestil | i was all set to go see jon brion at largo this coming year, and it looks like he doesn't do that show anymore? |
| 00:21.43 | aestil | WTF |
| 00:22.14 | aestil | lies, he's on the schedule! |
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| 00:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit aestil, stop pinging me |
| 00:24.51 | aestil | but when can we has teh sex? you promised. |
| 00:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | um. later. |
| 00:26.20 | buu | Xinhuan: How much did you pay for the deck? |
| 00:26.30 | Xinhuan | 1370g |
| 00:26.46 | buu | Hrmph. |
| 00:28.10 | Xinhuan | hmm i need an lua bot |
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| 00:30.21 | buu | I has one. |
| 00:30.25 | buu | In my pocket. |
| 00:30.31 | buu | If you know what I mean. |
| 00:31.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i have your mom in my pocket |
| 00:31.58 | Pernicius | i have a problem with AceDB-2.0 ... if the SavedVariables file does not exist and i do an /rl some data is save ... but after the next /rl no change is save ... any hint what my mistake is? |
| 00:34.11 | Xinhuan | so i got a bit bored and decided to study ace3's serializer code |
| 00:34.26 | Xinhuan | and noted that it will break on trying to serialize the number 1/0 |
| 00:34.49 | Xinhuan | and other NaNs |
| 00:38.00 | Shadowed | alright i'm bored |
| 00:38.24 | Shadowed | someone come up with a name for a buff/debuff/cast tracking mod! |
| 00:38.59 | Xinhuan | Afflicted |
| 00:39.16 | Shadowed | perfect |
| 00:41.11 | Shadowed | bah |
| 00:41.18 | Shadowed | now i have to make a graphical timer library |
| 00:41.19 | Shadowed | whee |
| 00:41.51 | chiper | I still have yet to find a totem timer mod that I like |
| 00:42.03 | Shadowed | Eh? whats wrong with them |
| 00:42.16 | chiper | dont like the UI of any the ones I've seen |
| 00:42.52 | chiper | wish Ketharis would expand KHT to other classes. I love KHT |
| 00:42.56 | Kivin | I agree chiper; I have yet to find a totem timer mod i like |
| 00:47.34 | Xinhuan | Shadowed, like candybar? |
| 00:47.54 | Shadowed | Like CandyBar, but a bit simpler and not requiring 3 additional libraries |
| 00:48.49 | Xinhuan | what libraries does candybar use? |
| 00:49.01 | Shadowed | AceOO-2.0, AceLibrary-2.0 and PaintChips |
| 00:49.46 | Xinhuan | sounds decent |
| 00:50.11 | Shadowed | If they were Ace3 and not Ace2, sure |
| 00:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | chiper: you don't like GotWood? it's fairly simplistic.. *shrug* |
| 00:50.44 | Shadowed | but, given I'm already using Ace3 it's a bit silly to be including AceOO and AceLibrary from 2.0 |
| 00:51.20 | Xinhuan | all these old libraries that use ace should eventually get libstubbed |
| 00:51.31 | Shadowed | Technically, CandyBar uses LibStub |
| 00:51.37 | Xinhuan | aceoo no longer exists in ace3 |
| 00:51.48 | Shadowed | the latest versions of AceLibrary-2.0 are basically a giant wrapper around LibStub |
| 00:52.07 | Xinhuan | well it has a dependency on ace libraries which are libstubbed |
| 00:52.10 | Xinhuan | that's a bit different |
| 00:52.17 | Shadowed | yea |
| 00:52.54 | Shadowed | You can still interact with CandyBar through LibStub directly instead of going through AL thought, thats what I did with SSAF to communicate with AceComm instead of going through AL |
| 00:55.39 | Arrowmaster | if CandyBar does use AceOO then it sounds like maybe we need an Ace3 or framework independant version |
| 00:56.04 | Shadowed | hence why, I'm going to make one! |
| 00:57.09 | Shadowed | Just have to work out the basic API's |
| 01:00.06 | Pernicius | why does my addon not save any change in the acedb ... only the first time if the savedvariables file doesnt exist *grrr* |
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| 01:05.13 | Pernicius | AoACore:RegisterDB("AoADB", "AoADBPC") |
| 01:05.15 | Pernicius | AoACore:RegisterDefaults("profile", { pos = 200 }) |
| 01:05.16 | Pernicius | .... |
| 01:05.18 | Pernicius | self.db.profile.pos = value |
| 01:05.19 | Pernicius | what is missing? |
| 01:05.57 | Xinhuan | self.db.profile.pos is only valid after :OnInitialize() |
| 01:06.16 | Xinhuan | or is it OnEnable() |
| 01:06.20 | Xinhuan | one of them |
| 01:06.22 | Xinhuan | can't remember which |
| 01:06.23 | Kivin | OnEnable if it's anything like Rock |
| 01:06.28 | Kivin | Oh wait... |
| 01:06.41 | Kivin | RegisterDB has to be before OnInitialize and self.db.profile is valid @ OnInitialize |
| 01:07.16 | Pernicius | hmm checking... |
| 01:08.22 | Pernicius | after or within InInitialize? |
| 01:08.27 | Xinhuan | both |
| 01:08.33 | Xinhuan | but not before |
| 01:08.43 | Pernicius | i have it so |
| 01:09.53 | kenlyric | should I expect an unexpected symbol? |
| 01:15.01 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3686810939&sid=1 |
| 01:15.06 | Xinhuan | was i too harsh on that guy? |
| 01:15.21 | kenlyric | oddd. |
| 01:15.41 | kenlyric | half of my SVs are blank, but still the same bytesize. |
| 01:16.00 | kenlyric | must have disconnected my usb drive too fast. |
| 01:18.03 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: no. |
| 01:21.41 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: 'safely remove hardware'? |
| 01:21.53 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: yeah yeah. |
| 01:22.21 | Gnarfoz | if you don't use it, you ignore write-caching etc yadda yadda => result: broken files :p |
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| 01:23.33 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: It was a nice roast. |
| 01:24.32 | kenlyric | Gnarfoz: yeah yeay. I was in a rush. Windows had to pick today be all slow with the writing. |
| 01:25.22 | kenlyric | saved by remote desktop. |
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| 01:25.45 | Gnarfoz | err writing speed is likely dependant on your usb drive, rather than windows (in case of clicking that tray icon). in case of not clicking, well, we've been there now ^^ |
| 01:26.29 | Pernicius | i dont understand it ... acedb uses the vale in the saved file correctly ... but it dont update the file on /rl ... i have modified the file in the editor (after logout) ... i dont know what is wrong :( |
| 01:27.16 | Gnarfoz | you registered the correct variable (-> the name of the acedb you chose) for saving by putting it in the .toc on the SavedVariables line? |
| 01:27.30 | Pernicius | yes |
| 01:28.27 | Pernicius | at the first /rl (when the saved files do not exist) the files are corectly created ... but not updated after the next /rl |
| 01:28.59 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that wasn't even flame-ish, I'd say. pretty civil. ;) |
| 01:29.45 | Xinhuan | if you modified the .toc |
| 01:29.52 | Xinhuan | you need to restart wow completely from desktop |
| 01:29.58 | Pernicius | i know |
| 01:29.59 | Xinhuan | the toc is only read ONCE per wow startup |
| 01:30.20 | Shadowed | Xinhuan, not exactly |
| 01:30.33 | Shadowed | you can actually load new files in through the TOC if they existed on start up |
| 01:30.54 | Xinhuan | that's about the only case |
| 01:30.59 | Shadowed | thats not "read only once" =p |
| 01:31.11 | Xinhuan | if he added say a ##savedvariables field or changed the variables on it |
| 01:31.15 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't be recognized |
| 01:31.17 | Shadowed | yea |
| 01:31.32 | Xinhuan | and i still assert that the toc is only read once |
| 01:31.45 | Gnarfoz | both statements can't be true |
| 01:31.47 | Shadowed | Well, it has to be read multiple times if you're able to load new files in. |
| 01:32.09 | Arrowmaster | Pernicius: are you trying to add the default value to your saved var? |
| 01:32.11 | Gnarfoz | perhaps certain parts are ignored, but... why the hell would they do it that way oO |
| 01:32.14 | Xinhuan | i think you are referring to the case where you added files to somewhere else like embeds.xml? |
| 01:32.18 | Shadowed | No |
| 01:32.19 | Shadowed | As in |
| 01:32.47 | Xinhuan | maybe only the non- ## prefixed lines are read on reload Ui then |
| 01:33.06 | Xinhuan | and the ## prefixed ones are only read on wow startup |
| 01:33.09 | Shadowed | If I log into WoW with the addon Bar/ and the file Bar/Foo.lua and Bar.toc but Bar.toc makes no references to Foo.lua, I can add Foo.lua to the end of Bar.toc and do a reloadui and it'll load the Foo.lua |
| 01:33.13 | Pernicius | the savedvariables files are created on the fist /rl fine (if they doesnt exist befor) with correct values ... but when i change a value (like self.db.profile.xyz = 1) the files are not updated |
| 01:33.35 | Shadowed | If, Bar/Foo.lua didn't exist when I opened WoW then it wouldn't work |
| 01:33.38 | Xinhuan | pernicius, perhaps you should pastey that code |
| 01:33.58 | Xinhuan | you probably modified the variable before VARIABLES_LOADED |
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| 01:34.13 | Xinhuan | so the loaded values from SV overwrites your modification later |
| 01:34.15 | Pernicius | no ... after |
| 01:34.26 | Xinhuan | pastey both your TOC and code then |
| 01:34.31 | Pernicius | .toc: |
| 01:34.34 | Pernicius | ups |
| 01:34.39 | Arrowmaster | is self.db.profile.xyz in your defaults? |
| 01:35.02 | Pernicius | yes |
| 01:36.31 | CIA-8 | 03dfscott * r57618 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (ALGChap_23.lua ALGChap_24.lua): |
| 01:36.31 | CIA-8 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 01:36.31 | CIA-8 | - Check-in of temp (inactive) post-Act 22 guides |
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| 01:36.53 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r57619 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_Main.lua PB_Scan.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 01:36.53 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 01:36.53 | CIA-8 | -Fixes to minimize freezes of WoW after the cache of WoW has been cleared (e.g. after a new WoW-Patch, etc.) |
| 01:36.59 | kneeki | Hey all |
| 01:37.25 | Pernicius | .toc |
| 01:37.27 | Pernicius | ## SavedVariables: AoADB |
| 01:37.28 | Pernicius | ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: AoADBPC |
| 01:37.30 | Pernicius | .lua |
| 01:37.31 | Pernicius | AoACore = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceDB-2.0") |
| 01:37.33 | Pernicius | AoACore:RegisterDB("AoADB", "AoADBPC") |
| 01:37.34 | Pernicius | AoACore:RegisterDefaults("profile", { pos = 20 }) |
| 01:37.36 | Pernicius | ...at some frame event... |
| 01:37.37 | Pernicius | self.db.profile.pos = v; |
| 01:37.39 | Pernicius | thts the full code |
| 01:38.01 | Xinhuan | what is that frame event |
| 01:38.32 | Pernicius | OnUpdate |
| 01:38.39 | Xinhuan | how do you know it ran |
| 01:39.01 | Pernicius | its for dragging a button around the minimap |
| 01:39.22 | Xinhuan | as far as i know, onupdate isn't necessary for onupdates |
| 01:39.28 | Xinhuan | i mean for dragging items |
| 01:40.21 | Xinhuan | can't really help you if you don't pastey the FULL code |
| 01:40.32 | Arrowmaster | use ace.pastey.net |
| 01:41.44 | Xinhuan | also, note that when you use OnUpdate or various other frame scripts that is attached to FRAMES rather than your addon object |
| 01:41.44 | Xinhuan | "self" refers to that frame |
| 01:41.44 | Xinhuan | and not to your addon object |
| 01:41.44 | Xinhuan | its a common mistake |
| 01:41.44 | Pernicius | i have testet it with self and AoACore |
| 01:41.44 | Xinhuan | but one you won't make after 1 or 2 times |
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| 01:44.41 | Pernicius | if i had an svn account i can upload the code to show ... but i haven't :( |
| 01:44.44 | Xinhuan | as we have mentioned several times, unless you pastey that full code, the info provided is insufficient |
| 01:44.56 | Xinhuan | http://ace.pastey.net |
| 01:45.03 | Xinhuan | you just cut and paste your text in there |
| 01:45.04 | Xinhuan | hit SUBMIT |
| 01:45.07 | Xinhuan | and link the url |
| 01:45.14 | Pernicius | ah k |
| 01:45.38 | Gnarfoz | I think ~pastey about 20mins back would have saved us lots of questions ^^ |
| 01:45.43 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 01:45.48 | Gnarfoz | ~pastey |
| 01:45.53 | purl | [pastey] the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and ... |
| 01:45.55 | Gnarfoz | just for completeness's sake |
| 01:46.24 | Arrowmaster | wowwiki needs a better frame script handler reference |
| 01:46.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont think it even has one |
| 01:46.58 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 01:47.28 | Gnarfoz | hm your 'nvm' came too fast for me to reply 'make one, then' ;p |
| 01:47.35 | Arrowmaster | i found it |
| 01:47.54 | Arrowmaster | but one of the pages had a very useless link that im about to update |
| 01:47.57 | Gnarfoz | hmm almost 3am, better get some sleep, moving sucks. :P |
| 01:48.20 | CIA-8 | 03siz * r57620 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 01:48.20 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 01:48.20 | CIA-8 | - Correct the table entry for Vindicator's Leather Boots |
| 01:49.30 | Pernicius | files: |
| 01:49.32 | Pernicius | http://ace.pastey.net/79715 |
| 01:49.33 | Pernicius | http://ace.pastey.net/79716 |
| 01:49.35 | Pernicius | i have highlighted the relevant lines |
| 01:50.28 | Pernicius | there is many commented out because of testing where my mistake is |
| 01:51.39 | kneeki | [SW]Dodge, any bugs yet? |
| 01:52.16 | Xinhuan | so this is 2 separate files? |
| 01:52.22 | Pernicius | yes |
| 01:52.25 | Xinhuan | and the first file is loaded before the 2nd? |
| 01:52.39 | Pernicius | yes |
| 01:54.31 | Xinhuan | line 64 is your error |
| 01:54.59 | Pernicius | self:MMButtonBeingDragged() ? |
| 01:55.04 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 01:55.08 | Xinhuan | self is undefined. |
| 01:55.21 | Pernicius | hmm |
| 01:55.23 | Arrowmaster | are you sure? |
| 01:55.34 | Xinhuan | fairly sure |
| 01:55.52 | Pernicius | checking... |
| 01:56.29 | Xinhuan | in fact, looking at line 24 |
| 01:56.30 | Arrowmaster | add a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("self = "..tostring(self)") there |
| 01:56.37 | Xinhuan | i don't even know what "self" is referring to |
| 01:56.41 | Xinhuan | probably some errant global |
| 01:57.02 | Arrowmaster | self is AoACore |
| 01:57.05 | Xinhuan | oh wait, its defined |
| 01:57.06 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 01:57.09 | Arrowmaster | the tabing is fucked up in the pastey |
| 01:57.19 | Xinhuan | he didn't set Lua as the language type |
| 01:57.22 | Xinhuan | so its hard to see |
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| 01:58.00 | Arrowmaster | bah pastey is broke |
| 01:58.04 | Hjalte | Hmm. What are the hotfixes that are being applied tonight? |
| 01:58.07 | Arrowmaster | it wont let me change the language |
| 02:00.03 | Kalroth | hotfixes? |
| 02:00.31 | Pernicius | with lua as lang |
| 02:00.33 | Pernicius | http://ace.pastey.net/79718 |
| 02:00.34 | Pernicius | http://ace.pastey.net/79717 |
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| 02:01.48 | Pernicius | i change the db val in the 2nd file @line 219 |
| 02:02.20 | vhaarr | Tuller: How about you say something in your own "Opening up Tullamods" thread before it turns into another to-ace-or-not-to-ace discussion, please? |
| 02:03.03 | Hjalte | Kalroth: Yeah, on EU servers. |
| 02:03.22 | Xinhuan | Pernicius, i am fairly sure the savedvariables aren't loaded until :OnEnable() |
| 02:03.49 | Xinhuan | move your self:MMButtonInit() from OnInitialize() to OnEnable() |
| 02:04.34 | Tuller | vhaarr: I'm thinking of still sticking with the google code approach for now at least |
| 02:04.37 | Xinhuan | ADDON_LOADED event fires when the addon has completed loading, but before savedvars are loaded, later when all addons are loaded, VARIABLES_LOADED event is then thrown after all addons are loaded |
| 02:04.39 | Arrowmaster | if you do that wrap it in an, if first then self:MMButtonInit() end |
| 02:04.47 | Tuller | vhaarr: if only because I don't want users downloading off of the wowace trunk |
| 02:04.49 | Hjalte | kneeki: When I try and seduce something with EasyPet, my succubus tries to go invisible. |
| 02:05.05 | vhaarr | Tuller: then say so in the forum thread and stop it before it gets out of hand |
| 02:05.08 | Xinhuan | then the PLAYER_LOGIN even fires, and ace2 runs OnEnable() |
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| 02:05.21 | Kalroth | Hjalte: I only see the rolling restarts: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2111543981&sid=1 |
| 02:05.41 | Xinhuan | if the addon is Load On Demand, then there will be no VARIABLES_LOADED or PLAYER_LOGIN event, and ADDON_LOADED will be valid for savedvars loaded |
| 02:05.54 | Hjalte | Kalroth: Do they usually do rolling restarts on a friday? |
| 02:06.02 | Hjalte | (no) |
| 02:06.07 | Kalroth | nope, it was because they didn't do it wednesday |
| 02:06.33 | Hjalte | Hmmm... Let me log out and check again, bah. |
| 02:06.59 | vhaarr | Tuller: if you decide to move bagnon and/or omnicc, I'd most likely be interested in maintaining those as long as I could, but I won't do it on gcode |
| 02:07.02 | Kalroth | oh, it does say hotfixes |
| 02:07.05 | Kalroth | on the login screen |
| 02:07.11 | vhaarr | Tuller: I've maintained bigwigs as a release addon on wowace for ages, and it works fine |
| 02:07.16 | Hjalte | Kalroth: Exactly :) |
| 02:07.21 | Kalroth | Odd |
| 02:07.38 | Xinhuan | tuller, if any of your addons overlap or interferes with mine, i'll be happy to help ;d |
| 02:08.18 | Xinhuan | Pernicius: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 02:08.31 | Pernicius | still doestn work ... when i logout wow ... change the val manualy in the savedvariables file ... login the new value is taken ... so its initialize correct ... but my files are not updated (after i change the value of self.db... ingame) on an relog |
| 02:08.57 | Xinhuan | guess i was wrong |
| 02:09.00 | Pernicius | i know the order of fired events ... but this is my first ace addon i try |
| 02:09.24 | Xinhuan | ok so the problem here is that when you drag the button |
| 02:09.30 | Xinhuan | self.db.profile.pos isn't saving right? |
| 02:09.36 | Pernicius | right |
| 02:10.30 | Pernicius | sry if i shows up like a noob ... but i have tried for ours :( |
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| 02:10.43 | Pernicius | and my english is bad |
| 02:11.19 | Tuller | so my friend is trying to convince me that apple just purchased sega |
| 02:11.52 | Shadowed | And, for anyone interested. http://shadowed.pastey.net/79719 <-- likely the arguments that'll be used for my GraphicTimerBar lib |
| 02:12.34 | Xinhuan | i didn't really see anything wrong with that code |
| 02:12.57 | Xinhuan | can you add a ChatFrame1:AddMessage(v) in your AoACore:MMButtonSetPosition(v) function? |
| 02:13.03 | Xinhuan | so that we know what value v is |
| 02:13.30 | Pernicius | the value is correct set there ... i have done this already |
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| 02:14.48 | Pernicius | function AoACore:MMButtonSetPosition(v) |
| 02:14.49 | Pernicius | --self.db.char.MMButton.Position = v; |
| 02:14.51 | Pernicius | self.db.profile.pos = v; |
| 02:14.52 | Pernicius | --AoADBPC.Position = v; |
| 02:14.54 | Pernicius | self:Print(self.db.profile.pos) |
| 02:14.55 | Pernicius | AoACore:MMButtonUpdatePosition() |
| 02:14.57 | Pernicius | end |
| 02:15.21 | chiper | NightHawkTheSane: the screenshots I've seen of gotwood didnt impress me. I'd just like a nice simple stacked bunch of progress bars |
| 02:16.21 | Xinhuan | my head hurts |
| 02:16.38 | chiper | I was really dissapointed that NaturECB didnt support totems |
| 02:16.49 | Pernicius | my too ... thats why im asking here |
| 02:17.34 | NeoTron | what are you looking for exactly? |
| 02:17.57 | chiper | NeoTron: you talking to me or Pernicius ? |
| 02:18.02 | NeoTron | yes |
| 02:18.06 | Tuller | vhaarr: the main issue i have with sticking things on the ace svn is users download directly from it |
| 02:18.47 | vhaarr | Tuller: yeah that has never been a problem for me |
| 02:18.57 | vhaarr | obviously, since I'm still here |
| 02:19.20 | Gngsk | most users don't dl from branches though, you could do that |
| 02:19.44 | Shadowed | Totems require a lot more specific support then NaturECB so thats not that surprising |
| 02:19.51 | Shadowed | er, then casts |
| 02:19.53 | NeoTron | Tuller: yeah just develop in a "develop" branch and merge to the trunk when you release |
| 02:19.56 | Pernicius | xinhuan: thx for help ... i think i'll do it the old way not using acedb :( |
| 02:20.10 | Xinhuan | what if you don't name it "pos" ;p |
| 02:20.12 | NeoTron | I used http://files.wowace.com/Yata/Yata.zip for my shammy if it's totem timers you're looking for |
| 02:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | chiper: how is that not what gotwood does? o_0 |
| 02:20.37 | chiper | night: the screenshots I've seen look more like buff icons |
| 02:20.44 | chiper | with timers underneith |
| 02:20.47 | Shadowed | NightHawkTheSane, you mean, how is it thats not what the other 5 totem addons do as well |
| 02:20.55 | Pernicius | i have tried so many variants ... but in no way it updates the files |
| 02:21.18 | Xinhuan | i admit i'm stumped |
| 02:21.37 | Xinhuan | maybe it will work tomorrow |
| 02:22.04 | Pernicius | hehe ... some sleep will do wonders ;) |
| 02:22.09 | chiper | ok, take a look at this http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/WoWScrnShot_082607_195111.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 02:22.15 | chiper | see the progress bars in the lower right? |
| 02:22.19 | chiper | I want that, but for totems |
| 02:23.19 | NeoTron | chiper: did you try yata? |
| 02:23.19 | chiper | I've seen some addons that were close, but they all has some element that kept me from using them |
| 02:23.32 | Xinhuan | your file/folder isn't write-protected by any chance? ;d |
| 02:23.35 | chiper | I dont know, got a screenshot of it? |
| 02:23.38 | NeoTron | nope |
| 02:23.56 | chiper | I think I remember looking at it, let me google |
| 02:23.57 | Pernicius | hehe .. no |
| 02:24.52 | chiper | yata does have the timer look I'd like, but I dont need a totembar |
| 02:25.26 | Xinhuan | i can only suggest to try using a different name other than pos |
| 02:25.38 | Xinhuan | otherwise there may be a bug in ace2 |
| 02:25.49 | chiper | I'll check yata out tonight and see if the bar can be disabled |
| 02:26.23 | chiper | I should probably break open KHT and see how hard it would be to add extra stuff to it |
| 02:26.38 | Pernicius | xinhuan: if you want to see the full code ... http://pernicius.net/aoa.zip |
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| 02:27.51 | Xinhuan | heh, i'll try installing it |
| 02:27.57 | Pernicius | :) |
| 02:28.17 | Pernicius | big thx for your spent time |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-8 | 03slake333 * r57621 10Scrub/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-8 | Scrub: 1.1.3 |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-8 | - MAGE: Pyroblast check removed |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-8 | - MAGE: Blastwave check removed |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-8 | - ROGUE: Aggression check restricted to non-Hemorrhage specs |
| 02:30.01 | CIA-8 | - WARRIOR: Cruelty check restricted to non-Protection specs |
| 02:30.03 | CIA-8 | - WARRIOR: Added yellow check for lacking Improved Heroic Strike as Protection |
| 02:30.49 | Lukian | which hud is that on chiper's linked screenshot? |
| 02:31.03 | Killmore | anyone know if slake333 is on the channel ? |
| 02:31.07 | Killmore | maybe on another nick ? |
| 02:31.12 | Xinhuan | Pernicius, i have to report that the variable saves perfectly across reloadUIs and that there is nothing wrong with your addon |
| 02:31.17 | Xinhuan | at least, on my wow |
| 02:31.25 | Pernicius | hmm |
| 02:31.29 | Xinhuan | the minimap button's position loads and saves correctly |
| 02:31.46 | Xinhuan | and /dump AoACore.db.profile |
| 02:31.51 | Xinhuan | shows that it is indeed correct |
| 02:31.55 | Pernicius | lukian: DHUD or drahals hud |
| 02:32.03 | Xinhuan | and does checking the SV file |
| 02:32.26 | Xinhuan | (i'm not sure what your addon is supposed to do, but it looks neat enough |
| 02:32.43 | Xinhuan | so far |
| 02:32.56 | Pernicius | http://wowace.com/wiki/AtlasOfAzeroth |
| 02:33.13 | Xinhuan | i suggest you close all file handles to your AoACore.lua in your wtf folder |
| 02:33.22 | Xinhuan | AtlasOfAzeroth.lua |
| 02:33.23 | Xinhuan | that is |
| 02:33.24 | Lukian | thank god, someone using the wiki for their addon details ^_^ |
| 02:34.09 | Pernicius | therefore the wiki exist for |
| 02:34.14 | Xinhuan | so this addon is going to be a cartographer replacement? :) |
| 02:34.34 | Lukian | one can dream :D |
| 02:34.47 | Xinhuan | i would suggest not using ace2, and use ace3 instead |
| 02:34.59 | Xinhuan | i think its nearing a release status |
| 02:35.11 | Xuerian | Who is working on AoA? |
| 02:35.13 | Pernicius | yes/no ... its an alternate map ... the old version is very outdated and not running now ... so i want to rewrite it fully with ace |
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| 02:35.25 | Pernicius | only me |
| 02:35.28 | Xinhuan | also i repeat, your SV saves perfectly on my wow, so you probably have a locked file handle on that file or something |
| 02:35.39 | Xuerian | Make it have a minimap viewer and I'll give you children to bear =O |
| 02:35.44 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm k, did there just go 20 servers down? |
| 02:36.08 | Arrowmaster | Pernicius: do other saved vars save for you? |
| 02:36.15 | Pernicius | yes |
| 02:36.37 | Arrowmaster | ok just checking since theres some keyloggers going around that are preventing writing to WTF/ |
| 02:38.16 | Xinhuan | check the date stamp on your AtlasOfAzeroth.lua |
| 02:38.20 | Xinhuan | when you do a reloadui |
| 02:38.31 | Xinhuan | every .lua SV file should have an updated timestamp |
| 02:38.58 | Xinhuan | its probably something very stupid you're doing |
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| 02:39.52 | Pernicius | hmm ... file is updating (new timestamp) ... but not the values ... dont know why |
| 02:40.12 | Pernicius | its the first time that this happen |
| 02:41.34 | Xinhuan | feel free to close down your wow, delete AtlasOfAzeroth.lua in your SV file in both the SV folder and specific character folders |
| 02:41.35 | Xinhuan | update ace2 |
| 02:41.39 | Xinhuan | then try again |
| 02:42.26 | Arrowmaster | you dont have anything else using that same savedvar do you? |
| 02:42.50 | Xinhuan | he doesn't |
| 02:42.57 | Xinhuan | his addon works on my computer |
| 02:43.14 | Xinhuan | unless he has another copy of the same addon using the same SV in another addon folder |
| 02:43.23 | Pernicius | nothing ... clean client ... clean windows and firefox |
| 02:45.02 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster can easily also download that zip he linked earlier to try |
| 02:45.05 | Xinhuan | it works :D |
| 02:45.45 | Xinhuan | be careful not to overwrite the .svn folder if you do |
| 02:47.03 | Pernicius | lol ... its running ... but why^^^^ |
| 02:47.29 | Xinhuan | i assume you have a working copy of the whole addon that isn't ace right? |
| 02:47.45 | Xinhuan | nvm heh |
| 02:47.57 | Pernicius | i only have deleted the saved files (again) and updated (per svn) the libs |
| 02:48.17 | Pernicius | no ... not in this client |
| 02:48.25 | Xinhuan | anyway, nothing wrong with the code, its something with your computer |
| 02:49.09 | Pernicius | i have 3 clients ... one for playing ... one old backup .. and one clean for develop (de, es, en, fr lang packs) |
| 02:49.45 | Pernicius | ok .. its running now .. why? dont know ... and very big thx also :) |
| 02:50.03 | Recluse | magic! |
| 02:50.10 | Pernicius | hehe |
| 02:50.27 | Pernicius | the magic of wow ;) |
| 02:51.14 | Xinhuan | your acedb was possibly broken |
| 02:51.37 | Xinhuan | i dunno hehe |
| 02:51.40 | Pernicius | think so ... its the only way |
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| 02:51.52 | Recluse | i hadn't logged in here in forever, but someone made me download an addon named Panda and it's description talking about purl made me miss the channel |
| 02:53.08 | Pernicius | oh .. the german servers are going down ... was it me ... hehe |
| 02:54.50 | mort | which one is going down? |
| 02:54.53 | Pernicius | i hope that it takes not moths to get svn acces ... it'll many things do easier |
| 02:55.09 | Pernicius | atm only a hand full serfers online |
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| 03:18.04 | Hjalte | Meh :( I can't seem to heal myself in phase 2 of the Ogrila demon thing. |
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| 03:20.18 | Busko | hey guys and girls |
| 03:22.35 | Antiarc | Scrub is the best pre-raid game ever |
| 03:22.50 | chiper | Lukian: Pernicius is half correct. it's actually MetaHUD, which was based on DHUD when drathal stopped supporting it |
| 03:23.07 | Busko | dose anyone remeber the webpage that had like user stats for servers |
| 03:23.21 | Pernicius | but dhud still works ... i use it |
| 03:23.24 | Busko | like X amount lev 70 been hunters etc etc |
| 03:23.49 | chiper | pern: it works, but metahud has a lot more features |
| 03:24.18 | Pernicius | yes ... but i dont need them ... and i'm writing my own hud atm |
| 03:24.26 | chiper | heh |
| 03:24.53 | chiper | I've looked at a lot of huds, DHUD/Meta's the only one I've liked. |
| 03:25.10 | chiper | most seem overly flamboiant |
| 03:25.25 | chiper | DHUDs nice and functional |
| 03:25.31 | Pernicius | but as we can see .. we can write long living addons which need no changes .. dhud is a good example |
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| 03:31.36 | Shirik | Antiarc: scrub? |
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| 03:31.42 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 03:31.43 | Antiarc | The mod |
| 03:31.49 | Shirik | never heard of it |
| 03:31.52 | Antiarc | It tells you why peoples' specs suck |
| 03:31.55 | Antiarc | It's on WAU |
| 03:32.09 | Antiarc | I just stand around outside the instance and inspect random people that walk by |
| 03:32.14 | Antiarc | Then bitch about how stupid their specs are in raid |
| 03:32.16 | Antiarc | It's awesome |
| 03:32.21 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:32.33 | Shirik | see, no, we watch our raid team constantly, not just while in raid :P |
| 03:32.47 | Shirik | talk about the problems, etc. after the raid, recheck specs |
| 03:32.58 | Shirik | if you aren't showing up ready to raid (i.e., with a useable spec) you're gone |
| 03:33.04 | Shirik | and trust me, we'll find out :P |
| 03:33.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i think Antiarc is talking about inspecting random people who arn't in the raid/guild |
| 03:33.10 | Shirik | oh not in the raid |
| 03:33.13 | Antiarc | Right |
| 03:33.15 | Shirik | I should try this |
| 03:33.25 | Antiarc | Just target someone and /scrub target |
| 03:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | but hey, that was a really awesome tangential rant |
| 03:33.29 | Antiarc | And it tells you why they suck |
| 03:34.04 | CIA-8 | 03rophy * r57622 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib: added pattern POWERGAINSELF. |
| 03:34.05 | Shirik | lol, the mod figures out why they suck? |
| 03:34.12 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 03:34.33 | Antiarc | Some druid, for example |
| 03:34.36 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 03:34.48 | Antiarc | Partial feral spec, lacking feral instinct, restoration without imp motw, lacking living spirit, lacking tree of life |
| 03:34.53 | Antiarc | 8/11/42 |
| 03:35.07 | Antiarc | Rogue here, 44 combat. No combat potency, no surprise attacks. |
| 03:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i need to get this addon |
| 03:38.21 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Can you bind it to a key? :P |
| 03:38.30 | [SW]Dodge | i used it in bwl today (fun raid) 26/30 people had lacks :D |
| 03:38.32 | Antiarc | Sure, just make a macro for it then bind that |
| 03:38.39 | [SW]Dodge | me too lol^^ |
| 03:39.05 | [SW]Dodge | scrub dont like my 30 21 10 build (wl) |
| 03:39.32 | [SW]Dodge | unholy power without felguard <.< |
| 03:40.44 | Shirik | let me guess |
| 03:40.50 | Shirik | scrub would go "lol lightwell wtf" |
| 03:40.51 | Shirik | to me |
| 03:41.32 | Shirik | yes? |
| 03:41.35 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd totally go "lol, no threat reduction" to me. |
| 03:42.03 | Shirik | oof, you really can survive with that? |
| 03:42.07 | NightHawkTheSane | as a healer, yes |
| 03:42.13 | Shirik | I have trouble keeping aggro off me with 4/5 in silent resolve... |
| 03:42.34 | Antiarc | Your tanks should lern2threat! :P |
| 03:42.39 | Shirik | it's true |
| 03:42.41 | [SW]Dodge | lol ~.~ |
| 03:42.50 | Shirik | actually our biggest problem is our mage for maulgar |
| 03:42.57 | Shirik | several times I have gotten whacked by fireballs |
| 03:43.03 | Killmore | I think it depend, for a fight like gurtogg, ros with circle of healing, aggro is an issue |
| 03:43.10 | [SW]Dodge | scrub dont like my Brutal impact -.- |
| 03:43.10 | NightHawkTheSane | as a shaman, i sacrificed points in threat reduction talents for some better solo/grinding talents |
| 03:43.24 | Killmore | but I want to buy an addon like scrub but for enchant |
| 03:43.24 | Shirik | but it's not just me, the druid I'm next to often gets hit next :D (we both heal the same target) |
| 03:43.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll probably respec to pick them up when I get my druid to 70 |
| 03:44.06 | Killmore | its fun to see how peoples get gears and never put the best enchant on |
| 03:44.29 | Killmore | or crappy green quality gems |
| 03:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | actually |
| 03:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it makes me cry when i see 70s running around with ungemmed gear |
| 03:45.26 | CIA-8 | 03shamino * r57623 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell_frames.lua: |
| 03:45.26 | CIA-8 | EnchantingSell: |
| 03:45.26 | CIA-8 | - fixed the mouse over for the enchant icon, now will display a gametooltip with enchant details |
| 03:45.26 | CIA-8 | - updated reagent in enchant detail, can now perform a shift left-click to place link and count into chat window |
| 03:45.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, i can understand potentially being too poor to buy blue gems. but green gems are cheap as fuck |
| 03:46.28 | Killmore | when I saw a noob with s1 gear without gems & enchants I always send him a tell "nice enchants/gems" |
| 03:47.19 | Antiarc | Well |
| 03:47.24 | Antiarc | If you do dailies, blue gems are no issue |
| 03:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeah, and for reasonably decent gear, it easy enough to get blue gems, but there's at least some decent excuses for having green gems |
| 03:48.39 | Antiarc | I have green gems on my alts |
| 03:48.46 | Antiarc | But that's because I'm a lazy bastard |
| 03:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | see, that qualifies :) |
| 03:49.00 | Antiarc | And I don't really care if people mock me for it, since the most raiding I do with them is Kara |
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| 03:50.18 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, child's play raised $1.1m this year. |
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| 03:57.13 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.58 | khangg | i'm using idchat and i can't copy urls :( any addons out there that just does this specifically? |
| 04:03.46 | Antiarc | There's a prat module for it that I use |
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| 04:04.43 | khangg | don't i need prat? :S |
| 04:07.41 | Industrial | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10595.0 |
| 04:07.56 | Kaelten | do I want to see that? |
| 04:08.07 | Civrock | Keylogger. |
| 04:08.12 | Civrock | (jk) |
| 04:08.33 | Kaelten | heh |
| 04:09.25 | Industrial | maybe |
| 04:09.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:14.11 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: wtb Fish restart :) |
| 04:15.08 | Kaelten | broke again? |
| 04:15.10 | Kaelten | gah |
| 04:15.16 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 04:16.00 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: you could upgrade to 1.4.x, too |
| 04:16.14 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 04:16.19 | Stanzilla | 1.4.1 was released on the 19th |
| 04:16.28 | Kaelten | I probably should but right now time is just... hectic |
| 04:16.41 | Stanzilla | k :) |
| 04:16.50 | Kaelten | was at a funeral today |
| 04:17.00 | Stanzilla | oh :( |
| 04:21.13 | Silowyi | Mind control is crazy today |
| 04:22.47 | Silowyi | we've had people getting mind controlled end up ... |
| 04:22.52 | Silowyi | casting hibernate |
| 04:22.54 | Silowyi | casting blind |
| 04:22.58 | Silowyi | using wand |
| 04:23.01 | Silowyi | casting sheep |
| 04:23.29 | Shirik | not nearly as bad as what happens to us in kara every week |
| 04:23.36 | Shirik | priest gets MCed |
| 04:23.39 | Shirik | priest casts mass dispel |
| 04:23.43 | Shirik | all shackles break loose |
| 04:23.47 | Shirik | bye bye raid |
| 04:24.24 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 04:24.49 | Silowyi | this is the first time we've ever had such frequent CC used with MC |
| 04:25.21 | Silowyi | what mob in Kara MCs anyway, I don't remember any |
| 04:26.06 | Shirik | it's up near moroes |
| 04:26.08 | Shirik | most skip that pack |
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| 04:28.05 | Silowyi | how do you pull up swlog? |
| 04:30.02 | NeoTron | you can skip all MC-packs |
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| 04:30.07 | NeoTron | and you're much better off for it |
| 04:34.46 | Stanzilla | lol someone "patched" the toc of EQCompare again >.< |
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| 04:46.15 | buu | So.. |
| 04:46.16 | buu | Yeah. |
| 04:46.22 | buu | How do I move the damn debuffs =[ |
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| 04:51.17 | buu | In pitbull. |
| 04:51.23 | buu | There has to be a way to move the debuffs. |
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| 04:51.56 | Recluse | it's in the options for the frame under other>aura or somesuch thing. been a while since i messed with it, i use ebb |
| 04:52.22 | buu | I'm totally looking there. |
| 04:52.54 | buu | Oh, obviously I wasn't. |
| 04:52.56 | buu | What the hell. |
| 04:53.02 | Recluse | lol - found it? |
| 04:53.05 | buu | I wonder if that's only visible in configure mode.. |
| 04:53.35 | Kivin | it's visible all the time |
| 04:53.53 | Kivin | but if you don't have something on the respective UnitID, a lot of the settings get hidden |
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| 05:21.00 | xhale | helloo? |
| 05:21.30 | yssaril | is there a way to do a reverse string format? say i have a string like 'Socket Bonus: bonus here' and a pattern like 'Socket Bonus: %s' and i want to return 'bonus here' |
| 05:21.56 | Lukian | is there a way to dismiss a buff on your pet? |
| 05:22.11 | xhale | I want to install FuBar2, I'm running mac os x. In the installation file it says to put an ".svn" folder in the original FuBar folder. Max OS X doesn't allow folders starting with . |
| 05:22.21 | exor674 | xhale: terminal |
| 05:22.25 | xhale | kk |
| 05:22.38 | exor674 | if you drop into the terminal you can mkdir .svn |
| 05:24.06 | xhale | worked thanks, doesn't seem very user friendly though ;) |
| 05:25.23 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57624 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 05:25.23 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 05:25.23 | CIA-8 | - Missing Uldaman item added |
| 05:26.58 | nekoh | yssaril, try: bonus = string.match("Socket Bonus: bonus here", "Socket Bonus: (.+)") |
| 05:27.23 | yssaril | ty |
| 05:28.01 | Hjalte | xhale: Why would you want to install Fubar2? |
| 05:28.17 | xhale | should I not? |
| 05:28.39 | Hjalte | xhale: Fuvar2 is -not- the second version of Fubar. |
| 05:28.43 | Hjalte | Fubar2* |
| 05:28.49 | xhale | oh I see |
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| 05:44.10 | Recluse | any in-game 'mats list' addons out there? a simple database of mats for crafting/enchanting so you don't have to look them up or ask other players for a link? |
| 05:47.14 | dylanm | Doesn't Manufac + Manufac Snoop somewhat accomplish that? |
| 05:48.18 | Recluse | iirc they only let you look at professions you have? not positive |
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| 05:48.42 | exor674 | randomly.. why does oRA2 (still) show the wrong cooldown for Druid's bres? |
| 05:50.30 | dylanm | Recluse: I believe Snoop just contains info on every recipe for every profession. I doubt it would make them unavailable to you. |
| 05:52.41 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r184ece413c 10./TourGuide_Horde/ (12_20_Barrens.lua 20_Barrens.lua 26_27_Ashenvale.lua): Tweaks to "The Ashenvale Hunt" for Horde |
| 05:52.42 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * rb88e220ae3 10./TourGuide_Alliance/17_18_Loch_Modan.lua: User tweakings to Ally Loch |
| 05:52.42 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r5a58064658 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (01_12_Elwynn_Forest.lua 12_17_Darkshore.lua): Elwynn and Darkshore tweakings |
| 05:52.51 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03Tekkub Stoutwrithe <tekkub@gmail.com> 07master * r0d490e1835 10./TourGuide_Alliance/ (3 files): Finished ally Netherstorm, added Shadowmoon (Aldor) |
| 05:53.06 | Shirik | those are some awesome revision numbers |
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| 05:53.15 | cladhaire | git sha hashes |
| 05:53.15 | Shirik | Tekkub: what did you do >< |
| 05:53.26 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:53.28 | cladhaire | those are git commits, not svn commits |
| 05:53.31 | Shirik | ahh |
| 05:53.34 | cladhaire | git uses sha hashes instead of revision numbers |
| 05:53.38 | Tekkub | I pushed, that's what |
| 05:53.39 | dylanm | That's how everyone rolls now |
| 05:54.03 | Shirik | that's.... interesting |
| 05:54.04 | cladhaire | still no 12-20 bloodmyst isle |
| 05:54.08 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 05:54.19 | cladhaire | guess my draenai sits at level 12 |
| 05:54.48 | Tekkub | you could write one, I'll send you Kopp's |
| 05:55.19 | Tekkub | I'm pushing up the friday build right now :P |
| 05:55.21 | cladhaire | i have kopps |
| 05:55.24 | cladhaire | i barely have time to play |
| 05:55.27 | cladhaire | let alone write guides for you :P |
| 05:55.29 | cladhaire | that's why i use TG |
| 05:55.36 | cladhaire | mindless playing when I have a moment |
| 05:55.52 | Tekkub | it's all copy paste, you can make a guide in like 30min :P |
| 05:56.00 | cladhaire | 30 min i dont have :P |
| 05:56.07 | cladhaire | mikma should do it |
| 05:56.13 | cladhaire | tho i may be nice and go back and fix the issues in 1-12 |
| 05:56.13 | Tekkub | works for me |
| 05:56.35 | cladhaire | night all |
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| 06:01.15 | Ironhand | sorry for being somewhat off-topic, but can anyone tell me how to use the action bar paging feature through a macro? (for example, to create a macro to set the active page to 1) |
| 06:01.35 | Shirik | it's something like /setactionbarpage 1 |
| 06:01.39 | Shirik | I think it's in the stickies |
| 06:02.40 | Ironhand | the exact command you mentioned doesn't seem to exist; where would I find said stickies? |
| 06:03.13 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366703212&sid=1 |
| 06:03.30 | Shirik | ah, it's /changeactionbar |
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| 06:03.43 | Shirik | swapactionbar is also of note |
| 06:04.07 | Ironhand | thanks, that seems to do the trick! (didn't realise you meant the Blizz forums rather than the Ace ones) |
| 06:04.28 | Shirik | sorry :) |
| 06:04.48 | Ironhand | np, solved my problem anyway :-) |
| 06:05.04 | xyu` | That's why he as a + omgwtfbbqimo |
| 06:06.29 | xyu` | Know what i would love as a feature of WAU? a "New release" section to go along with the Packages, Installed, Not installed, Out of Date sections. |
| 06:06.43 | xyu` | Just a place to stick addons that were not on your last index load |
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| 06:07.18 | xyu` | that Marked 0/1154 gets bigger and bigger every week, and i think it'd be cool to see what new addons show up instead of sifting through the whole thing ^^ |
| 06:08.07 | yssaril | still cant figure it out i have 'Socket Bonus: %s' from the globalstrings.lua and i have 'Socket Bonus: +4 Stamina' from an item tooltip how can i just get the +4 Stamina from that? want to use the globalstrings lua to make localization easier |
| 06:09.23 | NightHawkTheSane | replace '%s' in the global string with '(%s+)' then use that string as the pattern in a regex match |
| 06:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, not sure if you want to use '%s+' as the regex to match against, but meh, you get the gist. |
| 06:14.14 | xyu` | Why doesn't XLootGroup show who needed/greeded/passed while in raid? IS this a limitation of the UI or just not a feature? |
| 06:14.24 | xyu` | (it shows this in party just fine) |
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| 06:23.55 | yssaril | NightHawkTheSane when i do that replaced the s with a w all i get back is 'function: 1d345ds' (i am using the :Print command and have also tried the /dump method) |
| 06:25.47 | Shirik | yssaril: what code are you using? |
| 06:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrugs* |
| 06:25.55 | Shirik | (I must have missed it) |
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| 06:26.24 | Shirik | ok this is getting a bit annoying |
| 06:26.29 | Shirik | yssaril: what script are you running? |
| 06:26.34 | yssaril | string.gmatch("Socket Bonus: +4 Stamina", "Socket Bonus: (%w+)") |
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| 06:26.48 | Shirik | yes, because gmatch returns an iterator |
| 06:27.13 | Shirik | you would do something like |
| 06:27.19 | yssaril | so what should i be using to just get +4 Stamina out of that? |
| 06:27.27 | Shirik | is that what you want? |
| 06:27.31 | yssaril | yep |
| 06:27.33 | NightHawkTheSane | (iterator, i hardly know her!) |
| 06:27.34 | Shirik | because that doesn't even match "+4 Stamina" |
| 06:27.53 | Shirik | lua> "Test" |
| 06:27.59 | Shirik | --> "Test" |
| 06:28.02 | Shirik | boo |
| 06:28.04 | Kivin | local _, _, num, stat = string.find("Socket Bonus: +(%d+) (%s+)", string) |
| 06:28.17 | Shirik | well anyway, it should be string.match("Socket Bonus: (.+)"); |
| 06:28.21 | yssaril | i got ITEM_SOCKET_BONUS = "Socket Bonus: %s" from the globalstrings file and want to use that so i dont have to localize it myself :P |
| 06:28.57 | Shirik | don't use string.find for something like that, it's a waste of processing time |
| 06:29.05 | Shirik | granted, not much, but it's still a waste |
| 06:29.16 | lokaze | anyone know if is possible from blocking default blizzard ui frame from being load? |
| 06:29.25 | Kivin | lua> string.find("Socket Bonus: +4 Stamina", "Socket Bonus: +(%d+) (%s+)") |
| 06:29.30 | Shirik | load? Not possible. It's possible to mask it from happening. |
| 06:29.31 | yssaril | dont think so lokaze |
| 06:29.54 | Shirik | yssaril: string.match("Socket Bonus: (.+)") should give you what you want as the first return value |
| 06:30.02 | Shirik | or nil if it doesn't match |
| 06:30.11 | lokaze | Shirik: mask it from happening, you mean like hiding it after is load? |
| 06:30.19 | Shirik | lokaze: for example, yes |
| 06:30.49 | Shirik | so for example |
| 06:31.02 | lokaze | Shirik: I was looking for a way to prevent it from being load thus eliminating the memory from ever being use |
| 06:31.32 | aestil | jesus christ. the triangle offense is complicated. |
| 06:31.45 | Shirik | Lua 5.1.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 06:31.45 | Shirik | > = string.match("Socket Bonus: +4 Stamina", "Socket Bonus: (.+)") |
| 06:31.45 | Shirik | +4 Stamina |
| 06:31.56 | aestil | way to make a simple concept [put ball in hole] rediculously obtuse. |
| 06:32.01 | lokaze | Shirik: once is loaded, hiding it doesn't really remove from memory does it? |
| 06:32.08 | Shirik | lokaze: Not going to be able to prevent that |
| 06:32.14 | Shirik | your stuff isn't loaded early enough |
| 06:32.20 | lokaze | haha, alright |
| 06:32.26 | Kivin | > = string.match("Socket Bonus: +4 Stamina", "Socket Bonus: (%d+) (%s+)") |
| 06:32.31 | Shirik | and there's no way to get a frame to be GCed |
| 06:32.33 | Kivin | should return 4, stamina |
| 06:32.47 | aestil | 'no, i met resistance trying the entry pass to center, so i rotated the ball to the weak side gaurd, so that the triangle switched sides, and when i called 'circle' I expected the corner to swing around' |
| 06:32.47 | lokaze | garbage collected? |
| 06:32.51 | Shirik | Actually no it shouldn't, Kivin |
| 06:32.54 | Shirik | it shouldn't match |
| 06:32.59 | Xinhuan | [12/29 14:30:06] <yssaril> i got ITEM_SOCKET_BONUS = "Socket Bonus: %s" from the globalstrings file and want to use that so i dont have to localize it myself :P |
| 06:33.00 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 06:33.01 | Kivin | err, i missed a plus sign |
| 06:33.04 | Xinhuan | you need to localize it |
| 06:33.05 | Shirik | yeah |
| 06:33.11 | Xinhuan | to do the reverse lookup match |
| 06:33.18 | Xinhuan | this is exactly how WoWEquip does it |
| 06:33.22 | thul | mohahaha |
| 06:33.24 | lokaze | righto, thanks for the tips |
| 06:33.26 | thul | home from x-mas vacation :-D |
| 06:33.28 | Shirik | Aye, I think the best thing you can do |
| 06:33.32 | thul | no more 13" gaming |
| 06:33.37 | Xinhuan | feel free to look inside WoWEquip code |
| 06:33.37 | thul | 21" widescreen ahoy |
| 06:33.38 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r57625 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/ (bossnames.de.lua bossnames.en.lua): |
| 06:33.38 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:33.38 | CIA-8 | - More Babble integration into bossname files |
| 06:33.59 | Shirik | take ITEM_SOCKET_BONUS, replace %s with (.+) |
| 06:34.07 | Shirik | that's the most-localized easy version |
| 06:34.28 | Xinhuan | not all lines are htat easy |
| 06:34.31 | Shirik | aye |
| 06:34.33 | Xinhuan | the set bonuses one is trickier lol |
| 06:34.34 | Shirik | but for that one it should be |
| 06:34.41 | Shirik | and that's the only one he asked for as of yet :P |
| 06:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | where do i point out that that's exactly waht i said in the first place? |
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| 06:35.39 | Shirik | Sorry I got dced and the chat window was cleared |
| 06:35.41 | Shirik | no points for you! |
| 06:36.04 | Shirik | <3 |
| 06:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
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| 06:37.37 | yssaril | all i am looking for is the socket bonus atm (one hurdle at a time) :) |
| 06:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | does someone want to tell me why, in the name of all that is good and sane, am i watching the star wars prequels? |
| 06:38.22 | yssaril | next question what is the pattern to replace %s? |
| 06:38.25 | thul | you are insane NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:39.07 | yssaril | would it be like '%%s'? |
| 06:39.42 | yssaril | nm i tried it and it works :) |
| 06:39.43 | Lukian | NightHawkTheSane, they aren't too bad |
| 06:39.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 06:39.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i watched ep1 last night. it really was that bad |
| 06:40.40 | Xinhuan | yssaril to do what |
| 06:40.45 | Xinhuan | reverse matching/ |
| 06:40.46 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 06:41.00 | Xinhuan | should be (.*) |
| 06:41.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: he needs to match the %s thats in the global string so he can replace it with (.*) :P |
| 06:42.16 | Xinhuan | i'm not exactly sure what yssaril is developing hehe |
| 06:42.33 | yssaril | ok first somone says (.+) now its (.*) ?? |
| 06:42.50 | NightHawkTheSane | they're more or less the same |
| 06:42.50 | Shirik | use .+ |
| 06:42.54 | Xinhuan | .+ matches one or more |
| 06:42.57 | Shirik | + forces there to be one |
| 06:42.58 | Xinhuan | .* matches 0 or more |
| 06:43.13 | Xinhuan | .* is more for completeness than anything |
| 06:43.13 | yssaril | + it is then :) |
| 06:43.22 | Xinhuan | so that it will also match nothing |
| 06:46.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, these movies are a lot more heavy handed than i remember |
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| 06:50.16 | Xinhuan | about the same Orionshock |
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| 06:50.38 | Xinhuan | the first one is longer to type but only checks x[y] once |
| 06:50.49 | Xinhuan | the second one is shorter to type, but always checks x[y] twice |
| 06:51.13 | Orionshock | kk, i think im gona use the 2nd one if only because i think it would be better for refreshing a table for new entries |
| 07:10.43 | NeoTron | tired of having adamantite, rich adamantite and khorium overlayed on the same spot |
| 07:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | "Lost a planet master Obi Wan has, how embarassing." |
| 07:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: can you put that up somewhere? i wouldn't mind that |
| 07:14.01 | yssaril | whats cheaper to use table.insert or to use a simple counter to keep track of which keynumber to add next? |
| 07:14.20 | NeoTron | still seems to have some issues. found one place at least where it did not clean up |
| 07:14.26 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57626 10WhoDrop/ (4 files): |
| 07:14.26 | CIA-8 | WhoDrop - 0.655 update |
| 07:14.26 | CIA-8 | - fix err |
| 07:14.26 | CIA-8 | - support Links OpenMenu. |
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| 07:17.20 | yssaril | Xinhuan: mind if i take your socket scanning code from wowequip and turn it into http://ace.pastey.net/79730 |
| 07:18.29 | yssaril | still need to modify it a little bit to return a more usefull socket bonus but that is all i will do for tonight rest is for tomorrow |
| 07:18.43 | Orionshock | question, whats the max useful def for a warrior or druid? |
| 07:19.07 | yssaril | sky is the limit |
| 07:19.32 | yssaril | 490 is the min i think think so that you are uncritable |
| 07:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, 490 to be uncrittable, everything above that still has some use, but at relatively diminished returns |
| 07:21.16 | yssaril | http://www.wowwiki.com/Defence |
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| 07:23.38 | Kivin | Anyone got better documentation on frame event `UNIT_HAPPINESS` than wowwiki? I'm wondering what the arguments it passes are... |
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| 07:24.52 | Kivin | strike that, there's an api function that serves my purpose |
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| 07:27.17 | Lukian | Orionshock, druids have -3% crit in talents, however |
| 07:28.51 | yssaril | gnight all |
| 07:29.39 | Osstia|mac | Kivin: do you code for a living? |
| 07:30.32 | haste | Kivin: I believe it only gives you the unit as arg1 |
| 07:31.32 | Kivin | haste: Thank you |
| 07:31.39 | Kivin | Osstia: negative |
| 07:31.48 | Kivin | Osstia: I dabbled in it back in college, but never followed through |
| 07:32.00 | Osstia|mac | i see |
| 07:32.09 | Osstia|mac | just curious, don't mean to pry |
| 07:32.13 | Kivin | All is good |
| 07:32.26 | Kivin | My shady past is truely an epic tale... not. |
| 07:32.41 | Osstia|mac | hehe |
| 07:34.51 | thul | Osstia|mac: why did you ask btw? |
| 07:35.06 | thul | (about the place the photo was taken) |
| 07:35.17 | Osstia|mac | it was gorgeous |
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| 07:35.37 | Osstia|mac | was curious if you lived in that valley, or if it was just a photo you found |
| 07:37.05 | thul | hehe, I come from the neighbouring valley |
| 07:37.13 | thul | I have grown up running in those hills:p |
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| 07:42.09 | Osstia|mac | if you were going to have an addon build a list of items to watch, how would you get the list of items from the user? |
| 07:42.25 | Osstia|mac | I like slash commands, but I know most don't |
| 07:42.52 | Kivin | Since I write everything in rock, i'd use RockCOnfig, probably |
| 07:43.09 | Kivin | have one "string" element which adds the item to a list on [enter] keypress |
| 07:43.34 | Kivin | have a list of "execute" elements which trash the item on press |
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| 07:47.18 | Osstia|mac | is the black frame config that fubar uses rock? |
| 07:47.26 | Kivin | I'm not sure, I don't use fubar |
| 07:47.52 | Osstia|mac | okay |
| 07:48.25 | Kivin | http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1897/rockconfigcv0.jpg |
| 07:48.28 | Kivin | that's rock config |
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| 07:50.38 | Osstia|mac | ty |
| 07:50.47 | Kivin | nod |
| 07:53.10 | haste | oO |
| 07:53.27 | Osstia|mac | o0? |
| 07:54.05 | haste | I just saw how horrible rockconfig looked :p |
| 07:54.17 | Kivin | -.- |
| 07:54.37 | Kivin | I'd go batty without it |
| 07:54.42 | thul | hit > haste |
| 07:54.42 | thul | so stfu |
| 07:54.43 | thul | :-P |
| 07:54.51 | haste | :-( |
| 07:54.59 | thul | admit it, I'm funny:P |
| 07:55.24 | Osstia|mac | Fin is funnier |
| 07:55.42 | thul | :-( |
| 07:56.09 | Osstia|mac | kivin, you have a form of oral sex named after you |
| 07:56.12 | Osstia|mac | how nice |
| 07:56.22 | Ellipsis` | o.O |
| 07:56.30 | Kivin | *blink* |
| 07:58.46 | Osstia|mac | random things i find when googling |
| 07:59.39 | Osstia|mac | haste: sicne you didn't seem to like the rockConfig approach, any suggestions for what i was lookin for? |
| 08:00.05 | Kivin | You could emulate the behavior i described on a custom gui that you hand write |
| 08:00.18 | haste | I have no idea how any of the other solutions look, so how about.. writing your own GUI :p ? |
| 08:00.32 | Osstia|mac | I am not opposed to that |
| 08:00.45 | Kivin | I personally hate working with blizzard frames when just doing configuration stuff... <3 RockConfig |
| 08:01.02 | Osstia|mac | I was thinking of maybe making a grid of buttons |
| 08:01.18 | Osstia|mac | and dragging/dropping the items you want to track into the buttons |
| 08:01.23 | Kivin | that'd work |
| 08:01.31 | Osstia|mac | then when you close it have it save the items |
| 08:01.36 | Kivin | or just one blank button then a text list if you prefer |
| 08:02.04 | haste | you could also do like me.. hi2u settings in Lua |
| 08:06.08 | NeoTron | ah seems it works |
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| 08:09.04 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: http://ace.pastey.net/79731 |
| 08:09.11 | NeoTron | recommend making a backup of your mining database before trying |
| 08:09.38 | NightHawkTheSane | cool |
| 08:09.39 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 08:10.51 | NeoTron | removed some 900 extranous nodes |
| 08:10.59 | NeoTron | note that I made it a flag you explicedly have to enable |
| 08:14.22 | Osstia|mac | i think i might fall asleep typing, g'night all |
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| 08:22.05 | Lukian | vhaarr / [Ammo] : ping |
| 08:27.27 | kingb | anybody able to answer a few basic questions about chat and action bar frames? please msg me |
| 08:27.36 | Kivin | ~asktoask |
| 08:27.37 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 08:28.53 | kingb | i'm looking through a few of these addons and i can't tell if they are hiding the original action bar and initializing their own or somehow hooking into the original one |
| 08:29.00 | kingb | for instance bartender |
| 08:29.06 | haste | it's own buttons |
| 08:29.36 | Kivin | most bar mods take the blizzard 120 buttons and move them around |
| 08:29.58 | Kivin | some mods, like trinitybars, create their own widgets which very accurately mimick the default behavior |
| 08:31.18 | kingb | ok, now chat mods, do they initialize their own frame and redirect text output to there? or is there a way to re-skin the original chat frame |
| 08:31.34 | kingb | get rid of the buttons etc |
| 08:31.54 | Kivin | I can't speak about all mods, but Prat, for example, re-uses the blizzard frames |
| 08:32.37 | Kivin | I suspect most, if not all chat mods would do the same. The chat code is a mess and would be very difficult to reproduce. It's easier just to listen for chat events |
| 08:32.51 | haste | there's a couple chat mods that create their own frame |
| 08:32.58 | haste | but it's only one or two of those |
| 08:33.03 | Kivin | Aye |
| 08:33.42 | kingb | well enough, thank you for the info :) |
| 08:33.59 | Kivin | p |
| 08:34.00 | Kivin | np |
| 08:34.01 | Orionshock | can anyone attest to the validity of http://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_blow with regards to the statement about druids? |
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| 08:35.10 | Kivin | Could you be more specific, Orionshock? |
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| 08:36.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.40 | Kivin | that's true |
| 08:36.45 | Nargiddley | well, since its blocking that pushes crushing off for the other 2 classes, yeah |
| 08:36.48 | Recluse | oh my, i like this TourGuide creation |
| 08:36.55 | Kivin | in order to be uncrushable, you'd pretty much be immune to all damage |
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| 08:39.17 | Orionshock | .. what im wondering is why wowwiki says i only need 415 def as a druid to midigate crits |
| 08:39.31 | Kivin | that's right |
| 08:39.34 | Kivin | i'm not sure why, but it's right |
| 08:39.50 | Codayus | Talent |
| 08:39.56 | Codayus | Survival of the fittest or something? |
| 08:39.58 | Orionshock | well it's wrong btw |
| 08:40.13 | Orionshock | i get regularly crited by gruul and im at 430 def |
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| 08:41.37 | Kivin | I think you'd better post on the druid forums and see what they say |
| 08:42.14 | Codayus | Orionshock: You are incorrect. Either you don't have 430 defense, you don't have Survival of the Fittest, or you aren't being critted. |
| 08:42.47 | Kivin | X_X he said it, not me :P |
| 08:43.01 | Orionshock | i have that tallent on top of *428 def |
| 08:43.04 | Orionshock | TYVM |
| 08:43.11 | sica | hm, what do you mean with "regularly"? it's still possible to be critted with survival of the fittest and 415 defense but it shouldn't happen more than once a evening :) |
| 08:44.20 | Orionshock | crush + crit |
| 08:44.34 | Kivin | as a drood, you're always going to take crushes |
| 08:44.36 | Codayus | Orionshock: I don't believe you. Screenshot or it didn't happen. |
| 08:44.51 | Orionshock | ok.. i'll turn wws on tonight |
| 08:44.54 | Codayus | (Sorry, add smiley faces as appropriate. That was ruder than intended.) |
| 08:45.29 | sica | Orionshock: armory link of your druid? :) |
| 08:45.43 | Orionshock | !c US Nagrand Atradies |
| 08:45.45 | ThraeBot | Orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/49/7). 8919 HP; 5645 Mana; 113 mana regen; 3600 Armour; 1018 AP; 139.900 Melee DPS; 17.33% melee crit; 78 melee hit; 24 +spell dmg; 68 +heal; 20.98% dodge; 87 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 695 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp8o4j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yn9cy ][ Updated: Sat Dec 29 03:50:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 08:46.02 | Orionshock | ? |
| 08:46.05 | Orionshock | the fk... |
| 08:46.10 | Orionshock | no that's wrong for some reason |
| 08:46.42 | Ellipsis` | ping vhaarr |
| 08:46.46 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.54 | Orionshock | even that returns a negitive number |
| 08:46.56 | Orionshock | .... |
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| 08:56.08 | chiper | hrm, thats what I feared. YATA doesnt let me hide the totembar |
| 08:56.25 | Kivin | unfortunately |
| 08:56.27 | Kivin | I'd <3 it if it did |
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| 08:57.19 | chiper | sweet, but FluidFrames let me hide it |
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| 09:02.52 | NeoTron | Orionshock: becauseyou have a talent |
| 09:03.00 | NeoTron | 415 is all you need |
| 09:03.08 | Codayus | Orionshock: The math isn't too hard. You need 2.6% -crit if talented. 25 def or 39.4 resilience = -1% crit. 350 is the base def. So...65 defense, or 103 resilience, or any combo. |
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| 09:03.36 | NeoTron | as noted you need 3/3 survivial of the fittest |
| 09:04.02 | Orionshock | ive got , un buffed, 26391 armor, 421 def, 0res and a flat 30% to dodge |
| 09:04.03 | Codayus | You probably saw it, since its linked from the wiki page, but Satrina has a discussion of ways you can still be crit while theoretically immune |
| 09:04.06 | Codayus | http://www.evilempireguild.org/guides/critcrush.php |
| 09:05.21 | Codayus | (None apply to Gruul.) |
| 09:05.27 | NeoTron | Orionshock: you are uncrittable then |
| 09:05.36 | Orionshock | Bullshit |
| 09:05.52 | NeoTron | you will very rarely get crit anyway but it's unavoidable |
| 09:05.56 | NeoTron | and no it's not bullshit |
| 09:06.08 | NeoTron | a druid needs 415 defense + SotF period |
| 09:07.16 | Orionshock | i have 3/3 SotF |
| 09:08.07 | Orionshock | .. what i hate is this bullshit with the KZ-> Gruul's lair transition |
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| 09:09.44 | NeoTron | gruul is harder, especially on healers, but the mechanics are the same |
| 09:09.59 | Codayus | Mmm |
| 09:10.13 | Orionshock | then again expecting me to solo tank it is a bit irrational |
| 09:10.20 | Codayus | In a lot of ways, I'd say Gruul is easier than the last couple fights in Kara...it's the coordination is odd. |
| 09:10.29 | Codayus | s/odd/hard/ |
| 09:10.42 | Orionshock | i get 3 shotted on prince |
| 09:11.25 | NeoTron | if you get 3 shotted consistently your healers fail. if it happens when he does is crazy 4 attacks in a second and get multiple crushing blow that can kill even a t6 geared tank |
| 09:12.09 | NeoTron | in general though you shouldn't expect to necessarily survive 3 hits from a raid boss without heals |
| 09:12.25 | Aens|Superiority | how much hp do you have? |
| 09:12.32 | Orionshock | .... we had 3 epixed out healers, 2 pallys and a druid |
| 09:12.44 | Aens|Superiority | prince had triple crushed in phase 2 on me before. |
| 09:12.58 | Orionshock | 15k with pally buffs, and ~17k fully raid buffed |
| 09:13.05 | Orionshock | bout 12 self buffed |
| 09:13.09 | NeoTron | shouldn't get 3 shotted |
| 09:13.09 | Aens|Superiority | you shouldn't be dying then... |
| 09:13.11 | NeoTron | on prince |
| 09:13.17 | NeoTron | so yeah your healers probably failed |
| 09:13.25 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:13.34 | Orionshock | i don't think they'd agree with you |
| 09:13.41 | NeoTron | I've tanked prince as a pally with ~15.5k health and rather average kara gear with 2 healers |
| 09:13.43 | Aens|Superiority | prince can crush for 4.5k. Its the upper ranges but its possible to die |
| 09:13.57 | Codayus | You should die to Prince with two healers. 3, healing a tank with 17k? Sounds like complete healer failure. |
| 09:14.01 | Codayus | Er, shouldn't die |
| 09:14.04 | NeoTron | I died once from a 3xcrush streak |
| 09:14.09 | Orionshock | btw, NeoTron / Aens|Superiority / Codayus -- your raid experiance |
| 09:14.20 | Aens|Superiority | Orionshock: illidan on two characters |
| 09:14.27 | NeoTron | Illidan down a week or so ago |
| 09:14.41 | Codayus | Lurker and VR. :-) |
| 09:14.51 | NeoTron | tanked Kara/ZA on my alt pally |
| 09:15.25 | NeoTron | all but zul'jin in kara which I healed for. I've also duo-healed Karazhan with a resto druid throughout the entire instnace on my pally |
| 09:15.39 | NeoTron | s/in kara/in ZA/ |
| 09:16.32 | Aens|Superiority | its possible to die with 15k hp on prince even if everything was done right. Not likely but the possibility exists to die in less than 3 seconds from full. |
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| 09:17.06 | NeoTron | Aens|Superiority: indeed. happened to me once. nothing could be done.. but a druid with 17k health (less impact from crushing blows) really shouldn't |
| 09:17.09 | Aens|Superiority | Gruul shouldn't be hard at all, MT or OT. I've tanked it at 17 grows |
| 09:17.18 | Codayus | True, but it should be pretty rare. On a related note, Expiration is a great mod for that. |
| 09:17.43 | Aens|Superiority | grim reaper thats built into xperl is better for the most part. |
| 09:17.56 | Kivin | I use grim reaper without xperl |
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| 09:18.16 | Codayus | Ah? |
| 09:18.22 | Aens|Superiority | heh. I just ask others to spam it for me. |
| 09:18.32 | Codayus | Expiration works pretty nicely, I might have to look into it. What's the advantage? |
| 09:18.34 | NeoTron | and death replay from recount is even better |
| 09:18.41 | NeoTron | although recount is slowly detoriating |
| 09:19.04 | Codayus | Expiration gives damage, healing, and current life totals, with time stamps...seems like all you'd need? |
| 09:20.00 | NeoTron | recount tracks other stuff like buffs and such |
| 09:21.06 | Dezzimal | I've found recount to be a great tool |
| 09:21.32 | Dezzimal | interrupt tracking for Reliquary is great lol |
| 09:21.40 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 09:21.46 | Aens|Superiority | Orionshock: but either way. Crushings are a way of life as a druid. Nothing you can do about it. |
| 09:21.52 | NeoTron | I've tried to limit the data it collects to make it not bloat my ui into sluggishness |
| 09:22.00 | Codayus | I use recount for lots of stuff. Not for deaths though, I guess I forgot it did that. |
| 09:22.10 | Aens|Superiority | Dezzimal: you typically know who fucked up on reliquary... |
| 09:22.18 | NeoTron | Aens|Superiority: on the other hand when a crushing is 4.5-6k it's not really all too bad after all :) |
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| 09:22.41 | Orionshock | .... 329 HP from Gems, think it makes a difference to Gruul ? given what you know allready bout my druid |
| 09:22.58 | Aens|Superiority | hardest i've been crushed under normal situations was 11k on supremus. Nothing really hits harder than him. |
| 09:23.16 | NeoTron | more hp is good. 329 hp more MIGHT save you but typically not |
| 09:23.30 | NeoTron | unless you have WWS or something though, we can't really help you with why you died |
| 09:23.41 | NeoTron | most typical tank deaths on gruul is one of two things |
| 09:24.03 | Aens|Superiority | Orionshock: I missed it, but did you post your armory in tank gear? |
| 09:24.04 | NeoTron | 1) Not enough hots and/or not full health when silence hits, 2) healers distracted healing the raid after shatter |
| 09:24.13 | NeoTron | armory was dps gear |
| 09:24.43 | Aens|Superiority | o |
| 09:24.50 | NeoTron | 3) the OT died and you get hurtful strike as well as normal melee |
| 09:24.52 | NeoTron | are you MT or Ot? |
| 09:25.20 | Orionshock | no for some reason im in my dps gear amt.. |
| 09:26.04 | Codayus | Sometimes a tank dies on gruul, and every healer claims "I was out of range". |
| 09:26.11 | Codayus | Usually right after a shatter. |
| 09:26.15 | NeoTron | also |
| 09:26.22 | NeoTron | tanks can die if they stand in falling rocks |
| 09:26.29 | Codayus | I typically translate this as "healer fail". :-) |
| 09:26.32 | Aens|Superiority | Codayus: well, if that happens. Its the tank's fault for bad positioning |
| 09:26.39 | Orionshock | << OT |
| 09:26.40 | NeoTron | or they move out of falling rocks but the OT doesn't follow which means you're alone in melee range |
| 09:26.52 | NeoTron | as an OT you only die due to bad healing |
| 09:26.58 | NeoTron | or bad positioning |
| 09:27.02 | Aens|Superiority | gruul should always be kept closer to a wall so healers can stay along a wall. |
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| 09:29.47 | Orionshock | so my GM /w me " if you are taking more crushes than a Warrior or a pally then i will need to replace you with one for this fight" |
| 09:29.48 | Orionshock | .... |
| 09:30.03 | Aens|Superiority | hah |
| 09:30.17 | Orionshock | i don't know wether to call him an idiot or /gquit |
| 09:30.27 | Aens|Superiority | does your GM understand how tanking works between the three classes? |
| 09:30.32 | Aens|Superiority | or does he only know warrior? |
| 09:30.33 | Orionshock | no |
| 09:30.36 | NeoTron | so druid is the best OT for gruul |
| 09:30.44 | Aens|Superiority | pally is by far the worst choice |
| 09:30.48 | Orionshock | he berly understands how warriors work |
| 09:31.33 | Orionshock | guess it dosn't help that we're currently pug'ing our 5 spots in our raid 1 being a healer... |
| 09:31.42 | Aens|Superiority | meh. Just stick with it, get your tier 4, then jump ship |
| 09:31.49 | NeoTron | Hurtful strike doesn't even crit |
| 09:32.13 | NeoTron | well rather I don't think it crushes |
| 09:32.28 | Aens|Superiority | though at this point, arena feral gear with some +Defense gems does the trick |
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| 09:32.47 | Aens|Superiority | doesn't crush or crit iirc. Haven't done gruul in half a year |
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| 09:33.42 | Orionshock | it crits |
| 09:34.06 | Aens|Superiority | meh. Not hard enough to kill. |
| 09:34.15 | Orionshock | well.... |
| 09:34.38 | Orionshock | i usualy get hit for 10k+ from hate ful then another 9k from specials... after the MT dies.... |
| 09:36.02 | Fin | does anyone know a decent Config.wtf reference? |
| 09:36.05 | RaydenU | wow |
| 09:36.09 | Fin | WoWWiki's is pretty limited unfortunately |
| 09:36.11 | RaydenU | so there is this protection quest you get in stonetalon |
| 09:36.15 | RaydenU | 3 guys attack you, then 4 |
| 09:36.21 | RaydenU | well i died on the wave of 4 |
| 09:36.29 | RaydenU | came back, there are like 12 mobs all in this tiny little room |
| 09:36.31 | Aens|Superiority | why are you in stonetalon -_- |
| 09:36.33 | NeoTron | looking at a log confirms it does not crush nor crit |
| 09:36.39 | Aens|Superiority | skip it and do ashenvale instead. |
| 09:36.40 | RaydenU | looks like all the waves spawns for the quest and didn't despawn |
| 09:36.50 | RaydenU | my warrior armor quest |
| 09:36.51 | NeoTron | Orionshock: dude if the MT dies you will not |
| 09:36.53 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.55 | RaydenU | gotta get the iron ingots |
| 09:37.06 | Aens|Superiority | RaydenU: not worth doing! |
| 09:37.08 | NeoTron | as an Ot you take hurful strike period |
| 09:37.09 | Fin | wow, Blizzard's forum is bad. it won't even find posts when I search from a search results page with those words actually on it. |
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| 09:37.19 | Aens|Superiority | green iron or whatever it is called is better |
| 09:37.29 | RaydenU | not worth it? |
| 09:37.35 | Aens|Superiority | not worth it at all |
| 09:37.38 | RaydenU | from what i read on wowhead they said it was good well until 30 |
| 09:37.38 | NeoTron | and gruul has no special attacks |
| 09:37.46 | NeoTron | except hurtful strike |
| 09:37.52 | Aens|Superiority | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3844 crafted and better |
| 09:40.02 | RaydenU | yeah but if i can get this at lvl 22 |
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| 09:41.21 | cthom06 | dude, u can level 20-30 in like, 2 or 3 days, why bother |
| 09:42.14 | NeoTron | maybe he likes the challenge of a class quest? gesh |
| 09:43.55 | NeoTron | comic relief http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=carefully-slip-and-fall.jpg&category=CHINGLISH&date=2006-08-21 |
| 09:44.42 | Dezzimal | I got the one from WC on my warrior :o |
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| 09:45.18 | Orionshock | btw that addon scrubs, who / what is deciding all that BS anyways? |
| 09:45.34 | Dezzimal | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6627 |
| 09:45.35 | Dezzimal | dis |
| 09:45.52 | Dezzimal | hold on I know the guy |
| 09:46.26 | Lukian | Is there a mining trainer in outland? |
| 09:46.33 | Lukian | smelting* |
| 09:46.54 | cthom06 | yah, in honor hold i think |
| 09:46.58 | cthom06 | for alliance |
| 09:46.59 | Lukian | kk |
| 09:47.11 | cthom06 | its one of those smithy buildings |
| 09:48.53 | Dezzimal | Orionshock: its a guy named Kalman |
| 09:49.00 | Dezzimal | dunno if he camps in here |
| 09:49.12 | Dezzimal | ya there he is |
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| 09:55.41 | Ellipsis | anyone here use googletalk for voice calls while playing WoW? |
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| 09:59.49 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 10:01.18 | Orionshock | Kalman|: does scrubs do gear as well as talent spec? |
| 10:01.38 | Kalman| | Orionshock: No, just talentspec. |
| 10:01.49 | Kalman| | And I'm not maintaining it anymore, Slake took it over. |
| 10:01.54 | Orionshock | ever thought bout doing gear? |
| 10:01.59 | Kalman| | I just did an initial version, his is much cleaner. |
| 10:02.16 | Orionshock | who's? |
| 10:02.19 | Kalman| | Slake. |
| 10:04.15 | RaydenU | green iron patterns are vendor?> |
| 10:05.10 | Kalman| | Trainer. |
| 10:09.00 | RaydenU | am i the only person who enjoys a really good challenge? |
| 10:09.16 | RaydenU | i invited a warrior to join this rogue and i in trying to kill these 11 ~21 mobs |
| 10:09.26 | RaydenU | he saw them, wiped and thought it was hopeless |
| 10:09.34 | RaydenU | wasn't interested in trying it anymore |
| 10:09.42 | cthom06 | i hate that |
| 10:09.43 | RaydenU | i find situations like that really fun because of the challenge :) |
| 10:10.19 | RaydenU | situations you know you *can* do, it will just take a little extra work and care |
| 10:15.16 | Dezzimal | what level is the new stuff in dustwallow meant for? |
| 10:15.47 | cthom06 | 39-41 |
| 10:15.53 | cthom06 | and its really easy |
| 10:16.03 | Dezzimal | ah good |
| 10:16.11 | cthom06 | went 39-40 in <1.1 hours |
| 10:16.13 | Dezzimal | I see a nice empty spot in tourguide for them |
| 10:16.52 | Kalman| | I did it a bit earlier, think I did 37-39 there. |
| 10:17.32 | Dezzimal | I put savagery on my whirlwind axe :X |
| 10:18.01 | Dezzimal | and I had crusader on my Sindorei Warblade before that lol |
| 10:18.08 | Dezzimal | need to stop doing that I'll be broke when I hit 70 |
| 10:18.30 | Kalman| | I didn't enchant my whirlwind mace. |
| 10:18.34 | Kalman| | Too cheap. |
| 10:18.46 | Kalman| | Hoping I'll have enough cash when I hit 70 to pick him up his epic flier directly. |
| 10:18.59 | cthom06 | the onyl enchant ive had are ones i did myself as i DE'd soulbound stuffs |
| 10:19.19 | cthom06 | but my mains only 62, so... |
| 10:24.50 | Kalman| | Sitting over 1k AP at 51 is pretty funny, though. |
| 10:25.01 | Kalman| | With shout/rampage up, obviously. |
| 10:25.58 | cthom06 | wouldnt know, ive been prot spec since 40 :P |
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| 10:29.08 | Orionshock | whats the assessment tag for [raw healing this fight] |
| 10:30.55 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
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| 10:32.59 | Pkekyo| | glue + hair sucks :< |
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| 10:34.08 | nevcairiel | owned |
| 10:36.30 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 10:36.55 | Pkekyo| | you know one of those sticky-type bandages? self-adhesive or whateverthefuck they're called....those+hair doesn't mix too well |
| 10:37.37 | exor674 | you know what else... glitter |
| 10:37.54 | exor674 | I hate glitter so much -- accidentally get some on me and it won't come off for months |
| 10:37.57 | cthom06 | glitter is evil |
| 10:38.05 | Fin | perhaps you should try glue instead, Pkeyko |
| 10:38.45 | Pkekyo| | Fin: I think not treating that injury at all would be better tbh...too many unknown :p |
| 10:39.12 | Fin | Pkekyo|: well you won't know if you don't try |
| 10:39.23 | Fin | go on |
| 10:39.24 | Fin | try glue |
| 10:41.02 | Pkekyo| | bwahah |
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| 10:41.44 | Pkekyo| | nah, it's fine...I'd rather die from infection tbh... spent the last 40 min trying to get that piece of shit self-adhesive (right words?) bandage off in immense pain...enough for one day |
| 10:44.50 | RaydenU | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfZdfeJ1nc |
| 10:44.52 | RaydenU | so awesome |
| 10:47.27 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, too cool |
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| 10:48.54 | Pkekyo| | what's that round black thing infront of the car? |
| 10:50.46 | RaydenU | ? |
| 10:51.06 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 10:51.23 | RaydenU | was it on the car before the water? |
| 10:51.24 | RaydenU | dunno |
| 10:51.43 | nevcairiel | thats the canal cover that was blown out by the water |
| 10:52.52 | RaydenU | it was inside the hole? |
| 10:53.16 | nevcairiel | on top |
| 10:53.27 | RaydenU | if you look at the first few seconds the hole isn't covered |
| 10:53.55 | nevcairiel | it is, look close |
| 10:54.35 | RaydenU | i thought i saw water just bubbling out |
| 10:54.37 | Wogroipl | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.04 | RaydenU | yeah i guess |
| 10:55.16 | RaydenU | well goodnight |
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| 11:05.11 | Orionshock | NeoTron & others, i'll have a wws report with in an hour |
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| 11:12.36 | Orionshock | note to self... find a new guild.... |
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| 11:15.40 | exor674 | aw Orionshock? |
| 11:16.03 | Orionshock | dumbass ppl in my guild |
| 11:16.06 | Orionshock | too much CRI |
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| 11:27.29 | NeoTron | Orionshock: cool. heading to bed now but feel free to /msg it to me so I can find it easier/remember |
| 11:27.42 | Orionshock | botmail ftw :D |
| 11:28.06 | Orionshock | btw anyone know the CD or |
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| 11:28.23 | Orionshock | btw anyone know the CD or "average there of" on gruul's hateful strikes? |
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| 11:29.07 | Keias | Every 8s |
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| 11:40.54 | Orionshock | 3 hours of raid, and only 28mins of combat... |
| 11:41.07 | Orionshock | ...something wrong with these numbers... |
| 11:41.21 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 11:41.31 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 11:41.34 | nevcairiel | woops |
| 11:41.54 | nevcairiel | stupid client |
| 11:42.38 | Orionshock | half way tempted to log off vent again and listen to evanessance instead.... |
| 11:44.34 | Ozguli` | ewww |
| 11:44.48 | Ozguli` | but maybe if your vent chat sucks that badly |
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| 11:45.22 | Orionshock | got our main healer bitching about how much he sucks, and how much i suck as a druid tank... and bitch this and bitch that..... |
| 11:46.10 | Orionshock | what they don't understand is that we don't belong in gruul's yet, HKM -yes but we waste time and money on gruul every week and im getting sick of it |
| 11:47.00 | nevcairiel | gruul isnt really hard .. ya know |
| 11:47.13 | Ozguli` | but if they don't have the gear? |
| 11:47.38 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: in retrospect it isn't but for a new guild it is |
| 11:47.39 | nevcairiel | full kara will do |
| 11:47.42 | Vulcanus | My guild also struggles on Gruul, but that's mainly because of scrub rogues who fail to grasp that they are not supposed to run to the damn wall |
| 11:48.17 | RLD_osx | damn.... took EOS from horde 2000 to 0 |
| 11:48.17 | nevcairiel | you can even do ZA now and get some really good gear |
| 11:48.27 | Orionshock | 6 pug'ers |
| 11:49.20 | Vulcanus | ZA is like t5 gear req d00d, you can't kill more than the first boss unless you have imba epics |
| 11:49.32 | Dezzimal | eagle's easy |
| 11:49.34 | Orionshock | ya |
| 11:50.01 | nevcairiel | Vulcanus: of course you can, we do alt runs to ZA with kara equip, l2p :P |
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| 11:50.11 | Vulcanus | bs XD |
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| 12:09.54 | Xinhuan | [12/29 19:52:02] <nevcairiel> Vulcanus: of course you can, we do alt runs to ZA with kara equip, l2p :P |
| 12:09.56 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
| 12:10.12 | Xinhuan | with some heroic badges gear, its doable |
| 12:12.34 | Dezzimal | gcd for warriors is just 1 sec right? |
| 12:13.09 | Nargiddley | 1.5 |
| 12:13.19 | Dezzimal | just for cats and rogues then? |
| 12:13.21 | Nargiddley | rogues and cat druids have 1 |
| 12:13.28 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 12:13.39 | Dezzimal | imp slam still worth it when I ding 32 right? |
| 12:14.25 | Dezzimal | it doesn't seem to suffer from spell pushback which is odd |
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| 12:16.09 | Ozguli` | hu? |
| 12:16.17 | Ozguli` | I thought that all classes have 1 sec gcd |
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| 12:16.35 | Nargiddley | 1.5 sec is the normal gcd |
| 12:16.45 | Ozguli` | hmm. |
| 12:18.01 | Fin | why the hell does the "remember account name" checkbox untick itself as soon as you change the account name |
| 12:18.04 | Fin | what sort of weird logic is that |
| 12:18.37 | Fin | "you're using a different account name... so obviously you won't want to remember anything you put in the account name field next time." |
| 12:21.18 | Dwarik | that's if you log in at your friends house just once |
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| 12:22.51 | Orionshock | final fucking lee, Gruul down for a guild 3rd time |
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| 12:48.45 | lokaze | anyone up? can someone tell me the difference between "OnEnable" and "Enable" event? |
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| 12:54.12 | thul | I got no clue at all, but "onEnable" sounds like "when this gets enabled..." |
| 12:54.21 | thul | while "enable" is more "enable this shit now foool!" |
| 12:56.36 | Vulcanus | honorfu is rightly fucked atm XD |
| 12:56.46 | exor674 | oh? |
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| 13:00.26 | Vulcanus | yeah, chat is spamming honor gain but honorfu says 0 honor |
| 13:00.49 | Vulcanus | then after enough chat spam it said 1 honor, then when I gained 20 bonus honor it just says 20 |
| 13:01.24 | Ellipsis | woot, 10 dailies in 2 hours...new record \o/ |
| 13:01.30 | thul | haha |
| 13:01.33 | thul | how much gold is that? |
| 13:01.41 | thul | 120? :-P |
| 13:01.42 | exor674 | 115 probably |
| 13:03.30 | Vulcanus | some dailies give less than 11g99s tho |
| 13:03.34 | thul | hmm, I would still make more gold pr hour from grinding motes or skinning them :-( |
| 13:05.31 | Vulcanus | but you can do both, dailies are piss easy |
| 13:05.40 | Vulcanus | and dailies arent usually grinding |
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| 13:08.34 | thul | well, if 10 dailies take 2 hours, I can grind about.. |
| 13:08.35 | thul | *thinks* |
| 13:08.52 | thul | 40-60 nether scales.. |
| 13:09.00 | Cheads | if 10 dailies take 2 hours, I can grind about....20 minutes and get bored from grinding |
| 13:09.05 | Cheads | ;O) |
| 13:09.35 | Ellipsis | yeah, I did all 12g dailies so ~120g |
| 13:09.45 | Ellipsis | I skip the ones that give less because I'm greedy :P |
| 13:10.07 | Ellipsis | also got a few netherwing eggs along the way, so lots of rep there total |
| 13:12.06 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Laughing+Skull&n=Blazerbl <- he outheals my dps :-( |
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| 13:12.54 | ramoz | Ellipsis: 2hrs? i normally dont use more than two |
| 13:12.54 | [dRaCo] | good for him, bad for you :P |
| 13:13.31 | thul | :-( |
| 13:13.41 | thul | 400+ resilience priests are hard :-( |
| 13:13.52 | thul | i got like 70% crit on my ambush and 55% crit on my backstab |
| 13:13.56 | Ellipsis | ramoz: meh, I did the long ones like the netherwing quest in nagrand and such |
| 13:13.58 | thul | but even those have problems :-P |
| 13:14.00 | Ellipsis | lots of flying around |
| 13:14.23 | thul | dI want a EotS epic flying mount :-P |
| 13:14.24 | ramoz | oh |
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| 13:14.51 | ramoz | i do 4 at orgila, two at skettish and four at netherwing |
| 13:15.29 | Ellipsis | I did cooking, 2 skettis, and 7 netherwing |
| 13:15.44 | ramoz | ogrila ones own |
| 13:15.46 | ramoz | :D |
| 13:15.55 | [Liquidor] | Can anyone read this line? |
| 13:16.07 | Ellipsis | yeah but I'd only get to do 2 of those, and skettis was on the way :P |
| 13:16.08 | Cheads | [Liquidor] yeh |
| 13:16.15 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 13:16.23 | thul | hmm, seldom possible to do the sky-thing quests at my server:( |
| 13:17.52 | [Liquidor] | you guys know of any ingame notepad or similar?` |
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| 13:20.48 | thul | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=1718 Livid` |
| 13:20.49 | thul | bah |
| 13:20.50 | thul | [Liquidor]: |
| 13:21.01 | Livid` | :) |
| 13:21.33 | [Liquidor] | 1 year old, wonder if it still works |
| 13:21.53 | Zhinjio | Tinypad |
| 13:21.58 | Zhinjio | on incgamers, works. |
| 13:22.14 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 13:25.05 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude 07Beta * r57643 10Ace3/split.bat: Ace3 - fix splitting |
| 13:25.21 | thul | I'm an angel, I know |
| 13:26.51 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`, who did aceserializer |
| 13:27.04 | Xinhuan | for ace3 |
| 13:27.52 | xyu` | I just got 350 jewelcrafting! wewt. Which should be the first design i spend a big chunk of cash on? ^^ |
| 13:28.51 | Zhinjio | Hey Xinhuan |
| 13:29.01 | [dRaCo] | 8str, 4str/6stam, 4crit/4str and you've got all I need :P |
| 13:29.06 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 13:29.52 | xyu` | what class are you [dRaCo]? |
| 13:30.45 | [dRaCo] | shaman |
| 13:30.54 | Zhinjio | Requesting code lookover and efficiency check: http://geo.trippy.org/SKG/SKG_5.02.zip .... any help at all is appreciated. http://skg.trippy.org/ for plugin forum/blog |
| 13:31.46 | xyu` | I think i'll try buying a Living Ruby design those seem to sell well. either that or maybe a Topaz |
| 13:31.51 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan, routes continues to perform well for me. I'm still adding more nodes to it daily, and with the exception of a bad choice or two for how to repath, its doing awesome. |
| 13:32.44 | xyu` | Is there a way to set up custom routes? or does it have to use every node on the map? |
| 13:32.53 | Xinhuan | no way ;d |
| 13:32.56 | xyu` | I'd like to trim down those skewed nodes |
| 13:33.03 | Xinhuan | you can delete the nodes though |
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| 13:33.10 | xyu` | true |
| 13:33.11 | Xinhuan | and that will delete that node from the route too |
| 13:33.50 | xyu` | i think it'd be fun to draw my own little route though. All this whiteout on my monitor is getting annoying. |
| 13:34.46 | Fin | Zhinjio: how do you pronounce your nick? |
| 13:35.28 | thul | boar d00ds ftw. |
| 13:35.30 | thul | SINJO! |
| 13:35.55 | xyu` | If it's chinese, Zhing would sound like Jin (in as in in) woot |
| 13:36.07 | xyu` | in the car |
| 13:36.13 | xyu` | er no g |
| 13:36.15 | xyu` | gd i need sleep |
| 13:36.29 | Zhinjio | Its not ... zhin - dgeeo |
| 13:37.00 | Zhinjio | not zin or sin, its a soft zh sound |
| 13:37.18 | Zhinjio | but... honestly, its a made up name, so you can probably pronounce it any way you want |
| 13:37.24 | Zhinjio | my life long nick is actually Geo |
| 13:37.30 | Zhinjio | but... well, thats almost always taken |
| 13:38.01 | xyu` | i'm just an ex why you, most people call me zy you, or zoo, or jew, or shoe. |
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| 13:38.12 | xyu` | sometimes they get it right though |
| 13:38.16 | Ellipsis | I like shoe |
| 13:39.02 | Lukian | Are the hounds in ramparts linked to the beastmaster? ie. does nuking him cause them not to spawn? |
| 13:39.20 | thul | jew thewin |
| 13:39.59 | [dRaCo] | Lukian: yeah, at least the ones he calls |
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| 13:41.02 | xyu` | I've always had them spawn |
| 13:41.06 | xyu` | even if we dps'd him down first. |
| 13:41.10 | xyu` | maybe my dips sucks ;; |
| 13:41.37 | Lukian | xyu`, that's what i'm finding atm |
| 13:41.48 | Lukian | [dRaCo], you are certain? (our dps probably just sucks) |
| 13:42.05 | xyu` | i was kidding my dps is supar! i think they come no matter what. |
| 13:42.11 | [dRaCo] | we manage to do so almost every time, so yes. |
| 13:42.39 | [dRaCo] | we're in SSC/TK gear, though :> |
| 13:42.49 | xyu` | although i've never made it a priority. Like Precasting a trinketed pyro or something. |
| 13:44.03 | Zevanna | is there anyone who can help me with 'sig image generator'? |
| 13:44.49 | xyu` | I don't think i can, all i know about it is you type in your information and hit "submit" |
| 13:44.51 | xyu` | and presto! |
| 13:44.52 | Zevanna | i want to implement it to my website |
| 13:54.02 | Orionshock | if you pairs() over an empty table [[ { } ]] , will it return nil,nil for the loop or just skip? |
| 13:54.15 | Ellipsis | oh god, make it stop |
| 13:54.41 | Ellipsis | logged on WoW on my bf's computer and his UI memory usage is 214MiB |
| 13:54.42 | Xinhuan | it will not loop |
| 13:54.44 | Xinhuan | on an empty table |
| 13:54.49 | Xinhuan | o iterations |
| 13:54.51 | Xinhuan | 0 |
| 13:55.46 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan ... do you also sell metas or no? |
| 13:55.55 | Xinhuan | i don't really try, but i used to |
| 13:57.40 | Xinhuan | how do you get a UI that uses 214 mb ram |
| 13:58.01 | Xinhuan | even auctioneer caps itself at 20 mb or so and lootlink with 65k items on mine is only 21 mb |
| 13:58.13 | Wogroipl | never clear recount |
| 13:58.33 | Fin | er, yeah, I'd really quite like to know how it got that high as well |
| 13:58.41 | Xinhuan | aha recount |
| 13:58.42 | Xinhuan | would make sense |
| 13:58.57 | Fin | I have the most mods installed that I know of from anyone I know, and my normal usage is still only about 80 MB |
| 13:59.27 | Lukian | I was about 97 |
| 13:59.36 | Lukian | then I cleaned out and back to 60ish |
| 13:59.37 | Fin | was? |
| 13:59.54 | Zhinjio | I'm at .... about 100m |
| 14:00.20 | Fin | a lot of it is just all the in-game databases of quests and merchants and vendors etc. |
| 14:00.22 | Wogroipl | at startup I'm around 32MB |
| 14:00.33 | thul | I need 40 heroic badges :-( |
| 14:00.43 | Wogroipl | with about 60 addons installed |
| 14:00.57 | Orionshock | ahhhahaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 14:01.01 | Wogroipl | clear Kara and you're halfway thul |
| 14:01.02 | Orionshock | Cache =/ = Cahe |
| 14:01.06 | Fin | hey Ellipsis, set the font quite small and turn the max addons up to 400 in PerformanceFu, and take a screenshot of the tooltip :) |
| 14:02.03 | thul | Wogroipl: well, getting a random group for kara is hard these days :-P |
| 14:02.11 | thul | i want the 50 badge leather headpiece :-( |
| 14:02.27 | Zhinjio | My major offenders are .... Lootlink at 21M, everything else is 5M or lower |
| 14:02.33 | Wogroipl | I need 177 more badges :( |
| 14:02.51 | Pkekyo| | yay, just ordered a new shipment of DVDs :) |
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| 14:03.14 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, send me money, thx |
| 14:04.10 | thul | well, I need lots more if i want the badge-set |
| 14:04.41 | thul | now I have a weird mix of pvp-oriented stat-gear and pve-stat gear, it would be wise of me to get badge-gear for pve and s1/s2 gear for pvp |
| 14:05.00 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: just spent'em all :p |
| 14:05.05 | thul | but the guild seems to be breaking up and I cba to find a new one :-P |
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| 14:06.23 | exor674 | yeah, Isit at 100mb too, my Major offenders Ace2 at 25MB and Recount at 16MB |
| 14:06.59 | Zhinjio | wow, my ace2 is at 4M |
| 14:07.02 | Zhinjio | weird |
| 14:08.16 | Lukian | no-ext, mines at 2M :p |
| 14:08.32 | Zhinjio | oh, right. yeah, no-ext |
| 14:08.48 | thul | hmm |
| 14:08.52 | exor674 | no-ext here too |
| 14:08.58 | thul | does casual BT/Hyal-guilds exist? :-P |
| 14:09.01 | thul | like 1-3 raid pr week? |
| 14:09.10 | Lukian | exor674, it's probably recount's abuse :D |
| 14:09.48 | exor674 | yeah, did a clear data of recount |
| 14:10.07 | exor674 | and forced GC -- Ace2 down to 6.4MiB |
| 14:11.59 | Chompers | no chance thul |
| 14:12.10 | Chompers | imagine a casual guild attempting kael |
| 14:17.32 | Zhinjio | its possible we may be merging another guild into ours shortly. Anyone have any advice? |
| 14:18.43 | Wogroipl | yeah, don't make them officers |
| 14:20.08 | Zhinjio | with the exception of one or two people who will stay on as honor guard (jr officers), to act as liaison during the integration, I don't think any of them even want to be officers anymore. |
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| 14:22.11 | Ellipsis | [6:00:06 am] <Fin> hey Ellipsis, set the font quite small and turn the max addons up to 400 in PerformanceFu, and take a screenshot of the tooltip :) << should I really? it's pretty scary |
| 14:22.22 | Ellipsis | the worst ones are lootlink and auctioneer |
| 14:22.31 | Ellipsis | but it's actually just a lot of little things adding up, it seems |
| 14:23.06 | Ellipsis | I think I'm going to make him clean up his UI when he comes home >_> |
| 14:24.17 | Xinhuan | so what was eating the 214 mb ram? |
| 14:26.21 | Ellipsis | I'm not exactly sure |
| 14:26.34 | Ellipsis | it looks like just hundreds and hundreds of addons that are mostly in the 500KB-1MB range |
| 14:26.37 | Lukian | [Ammo], vhaarr : in yet? |
| 14:26.58 | Xinhuan | so nothing obvious |
| 14:27.00 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 14:27.01 | Xinhuan | using a lot? |
| 14:27.04 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 14:27.13 | Ellipsis | the only big ones were auctioneer and lootlink at 15-20 each |
| 14:27.20 | Xinhuan | start getting rid of duplicate addons |
| 14:27.25 | Xinhuan | like bigwigs + dmb |
| 14:27.25 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 14:27.35 | Xinhuan | or 4x damage meters |
| 14:28.15 | Ellipsis | the UI itself is ridiculously cluttered |
| 14:28.29 | Ellipsis | wall-to-wall fubars full of text and icons for things I can't imagine him ever needing |
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| 14:39.52 | Orionshock | i think i finished it :D |
| 14:40.10 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:40.28 | Orionshock | all i need now is testing on a larger scale :\ |
| 14:42.22 | Orionshock | i finished my GuildCrafts addon, needs some polishing touches on moving some variables local... but it works :D |
| 14:43.03 | Zhinjio | whats it do? |
| 14:43.09 | Zhinjio | tracks crafting across a guild? |
| 14:43.26 | Orionshock | it's a sync mod of course, but ya it tracks what ppl can craft with in a guild |
| 14:43.50 | Zhinjio | I'm very interested in that. |
| 14:44.00 | Orionshock | it's expandable to server wide, just need to add in a module to monitor a chat channel for joins and leaves and leave the rest to addon whispers |
| 14:44.39 | Zhinjio | where's it currently hosted? |
| 14:45.00 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/GuildCraft/ |
| 14:45.13 | Orionshock | you'll need Ace3 and LibGratuity |
| 14:46.08 | Orionshock | ... Zhinjio it's not entirely localized so don't do anything weird with it |
| 14:46.51 | Zhinjio | I'm in enUS, and I always do weird things. |
| 14:46.52 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 14:46.59 | Zhinjio | Ace3 might be a deal-breakable in our guild. |
| 14:47.05 | Zhinjio | but I'll do some testing and see how it goes. |
| 14:47.05 | Orionshock | why? |
| 14:47.17 | Zhinjio | ignorance |
| 14:47.20 | Orionshock | lol |
| 14:47.47 | Orionshock | i can put up a pre packaged zip on the download side if you'd like |
| 14:47.57 | Zhinjio | I was just going to ask. |
| 14:48.00 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.02 | Zhinjio | I can manage without if its too much trouble. |
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| 14:49.57 | Zhinjio | ok, its all downloaded. getting ace3 now. |
| 14:50.21 | Orionshock | give me bout 3 more mins i'll have a zip for ya... might not work... |
| 14:50.28 | cladhaire | why isn't ace3 embedded in it Orionshock ? |
| 14:50.39 | Orionshock | fk it, you make it, i'm going to bed |
| 14:50.48 | Neothor | A small question here. I am looking in to Ace to build my own little addon for WoW but I wonder is there an editor that supports lua? |
| 14:50.50 | Orionshock | cladhaire: lazy atm |
| 14:50.52 | Zhinjio | where is ace3? Hrm. G"night. |
| 14:51.12 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: /branches/Ace3/Beta/ |
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| 14:51.42 | Orionshock | cladhaire: i run all disembedded locally so i don't care much for externals or embeds when messing arround with my google code suff |
| 14:52.11 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:52.15 | cladhaire | i hate the word disembedded |
| 14:52.19 | cladhaire | i want to stab whoever invented it |
| 14:52.27 | [Ammo] | tekkub! |
| 14:52.36 | cladhaire | i dont think it was him |
| 14:52.42 | [Ammo] | am afraid it was |
| 14:53.17 | cladhaire | well i'll stab him |
| 14:53.25 | cladhaire | fuck the name, and fuck the concept |
| 14:53.50 | Zhinjio | zips don't work in the branches, I guess. blah. |
| 14:53.52 | Orionshock | lol |
| 14:53.57 | Zhinjio | guess I'll tortoise it down |
| 14:54.18 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: WAU + CLI-SVN client == bliss for branch addons |
| 14:54.33 | [dRaCo] | Neothor: afaik notepad++ and ultraedit both have syntax files for lua |
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| 14:55.00 | Orionshock | cladhaire: why the hate ? |
| 14:55.22 | cladhaire | the problem was NEVER embedded libraries |
| 14:55.31 | cladhaire | it was the shit that got packed into libraries that were supposed to be small and embedded. |
| 14:55.56 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 14:55.59 | cladhaire | i mostly hate the name |
| 14:56.05 | Orionshock | lol |
| 14:56.07 | cladhaire | and the "Champions" of the "disembedded" camp |
| 14:56.12 | Neothor | thnx [dRaCo], I was just to lazy :P I already found an addon for eclipse :p |
| 14:56.38 | Orionshock | wouldn't the correct tense be "un-embedded" |
| 14:56.43 | Cheads | you have "disembedded" libraries etc. everywhere....? |
| 14:57.01 | Polarina | I want 2.2.3 again because it's stable and 2.3.0 isn't! |
| 14:57.08 | cladhaire | ... ? |
| 14:57.11 | cladhaire | Polarina: ? |
| 14:57.40 | Polarina | cladhaire: If the version number in the middle is odd, the release is unstable. If it is even, it is stable. |
| 14:57.53 | cladhaire | in _YOUR_ versioning scheme .. sure. |
| 14:57.54 | Polarina | unstable or development release. |
| 14:58.00 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: if it recursively deletes everything blame Xinhuan i got the recycling functions from him |
| 14:58.03 | Zhinjio | blah, libgratuity-3.0 ... missed that. |
| 14:58.03 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, would you consider using ace3 in future addons? |
| 14:58.09 | cladhaire | good thing that's not how Blizzard works |
| 14:58.19 | Polarina | cladhaire: Linux uses that versioning scheme! It's NOT mine! |
| 14:58.26 | cladhaire | yes.. but NOT blizzard |
| 14:58.30 | cladhaire | so why are you pushing it on them? |
| 14:58.42 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: if they use a stable tagging mechanism, possibly |
| 14:58.50 | Cheads | no, they are not purposely using it =) |
| 14:59.06 | Xinhuan | ammo, i found an issue in ace3serializer just reading thru the code |
| 14:59.20 | [Ammo] | jira it |
| 14:59.28 | Xinhuan | but that means i have to make a jira account |
| 14:59.33 | Xinhuan | don't want to do that :D |
| 14:59.33 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 14:59.38 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:59.44 | Xinhuan | another password to keep track of |
| 14:59.58 | Cheads | user: xinhuan pass: ammo =) |
| 14:59.58 | Arrowmaster | linux kernal versioning doesnt use the odd/even unstable/stable system anymore |
| 15:00.01 | cladhaire | why doesn't it use the svn auth |
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| 15:00.55 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: that's what I thought.. but regardless its assinine to apply that to Blizzard's versioning system. |
| 15:01.05 | Zhinjio | ok, so ... um, how do I open it up? |
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| 15:01.18 | Zhinjio | I see no icons /gc and /guildcraft don't work |
| 15:01.49 | Zhinjio | I only have one Ace3Serializer error in my bugsack |
| 15:02.03 | Xinhuan | it errors when you try to serialize NaNs |
| 15:02.16 | Xinhuan | because it tries to tostring() it, and then on deserialize it does tonumber() |
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| 15:04.04 | cladhaire | don't try to store NaN :P |
| 15:05.03 | Xinhuan | it serializes fine because tostring() works |
| 15:05.05 | Orionshock | lol Zhinjio you'll have to add ace serilizer to the Ace3.toc file because they are noobs |
| 15:05.13 | Xinhuan | it just doesn't deserialize it as tonumber() fails |
| 15:05.23 | Xinhuan | hence that's an ace3 issue |
| 15:05.37 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.42 | Xinhuan | anything serializable should be able to be reversed |
| 15:05.45 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.54 | Amadeo | dig dug |
| 15:06.05 | Zhinjio | so is there a "Select All" option before you publish? |
| 15:06.11 | Zhinjio | It scanned my skill correctly at least |
| 15:06.45 | Zhinjio | also a "Refresh" button if I scan another skill while its open, maybe? |
| 15:06.47 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: no it defaults to none, it's intended to only have your top items to be shared, everything else you can look up online |
| 15:06.53 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 15:07.29 | Zhinjio | it also ignores first aid, which I suppose is a good thing. |
| 15:07.50 | Orionshock | :D |
| 15:08.00 | Zhinjio | where does the browser come into play? |
| 15:08.04 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: throw your sugestions up on the google code tracker, |
| 15:08.06 | Zhinjio | under what circumstances does it show up, I mean |
| 15:08.08 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 15:08.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.40 | Zhinjio | heh. ok |
| 15:08.44 | Orionshock | ...do a svn update, i reEnabled the slash command |
| 15:09.25 | vhaarr | Lukian: hm? |
| 15:09.35 | Orionshock | currently it talks to it'self, but it'll stop doing that. it will eventualy enforce a 1 min difference between publishes |
| 15:09.58 | Zhinjio | loading it on another toon to get some chatter going |
| 15:10.05 | Zhinjio | another account, I mean |
| 15:10.18 | Orionshock | hehe.... |
| 15:10.21 | Orionshock | night all |
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| 15:13.58 | Pkekyo| | rofl, some guy in a car fell asleep and took out eight people today |
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| 15:17.59 | CIA-8 | Antagonist: |
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| 15:21.20 | Stan_ | [2007/12/29 16:20:40-448-x1]: AceComm-2.0-57236 (Ace2):307: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value) |
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| 15:26.03 | Uhuru | Hi |
| 15:26.43 | Uhuru | am i the only one to get problems with cg_switcher since last update ? |
| 15:29.37 | Uhuru | ok ... |
| 15:29.58 | [dRaCo] | at least noone complained here... checked the forum thread? |
| 15:30.19 | Uhuru | yep i checked |
| 15:31.20 | Uhuru | the "enabled" option in cg_switcher don't work since last update, it is always enabled |
| 15:32.14 | Uhuru | and i got a set with only one trinket equipped, before update when i equip this set all my other items in others sockets stay equipped |
| 15:32.33 | Uhuru | now it unequip all my other items when i equip this set |
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| 15:58.25 | Lukian | is there an addon to turn the grimoire seller into a list of trainable skills / hide ones my pets already hae? |
| 16:09.24 | Industrial | yes there is |
| 16:09.38 | Industrial | check the warlock sub addons dir at wowi |
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| 16:26.14 | Kain___ | somehow i hid the anchor for incubator.. anyone know how to turn it back on? |
| 16:28.29 | Wogroipl | Kain___ /incubator locked? |
| 16:29.12 | Wogroipl | or /incubator baroptions locked? |
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| 16:29.33 | sb | hm |
| 16:29.42 | sb | wtb some numbers shadow priest + mage vs. sp + lock ;) |
| 16:29.53 | sb | and why destro lock rocks w/ shadow |
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| 16:37.22 | Pkekyo| | band of brothers = win |
| 16:37.24 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 16:37.49 | Elkano | right ^^ got me the box |
| 16:38.59 | [dRaCo] | sb: destro + sp: misery + imp. sb |
| 16:40.09 | sb | i know - but i think sp+destro is > sp+fire mage |
| 16:40.18 | sb | but i need some numbers here ;) |
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| 16:50.33 | Zhinjio | where do I know the name THerigwin from |
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| 17:07.04 | Osstia|mac | Good Morning |
| 17:08.03 | Arcanefoam | good morning |
| 17:09.29 | Zhinjio | Yo |
| 17:09.43 | Arcanefoam | i know u can add a line of code in your core.lua file to show the current revision of your addon as SVN chagnes each time you commit. Can any 1 tell me were to find who to do it? |
| 17:10.00 | Arcanefoam | how to* |
| 17:12.10 | Ellipsis | isn't it just $Rev$ ? |
| 17:12.10 | Industrial | Arcanefoam: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 17:12.26 | Ellipsis | oh hai Industrial |
| 17:12.41 | Industrial | y hello thar |
| 17:13.03 | Arcanefoam | something like "$Revision: 00000 $" |
| 17:13.08 | Arcanefoam | ? |
| 17:13.15 | Industrial | Arcanefoam: see link |
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| 17:21.44 | Chompers | as usual |
| 17:21.51 | Chompers | uh, wc |
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| 17:45.12 | CIA-8 | 03arcanefoam * r57653 10DHUD2/ (. core.lua): |
| 17:45.12 | CIA-8 | DHUD2: |
| 17:45.12 | CIA-8 | -Added svn:externals and $Revision and $Date to core.lua |
| 17:47.44 | Fin | haste: I've added an option to my local copy of oTweaks - what's the best way to submit it to you? patch / svn commit / updated file / diff of some sort? |
| 17:48.06 | haste | Fin: which version of oTweaks, I'm planning on fixing up the SVN version asap |
| 17:48.53 | haste | Fin: anyway, just giving me a pastey to the patch is usually enough :) |
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| 17:49.25 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57654 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 17:49.25 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:49.25 | CIA-8 | - update koKR locals |
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| 17:50.00 | Fin | haste: where can I find a version or revision number? oh. version.txt. cunning. 19118 |
| 17:50.36 | haste | that's the old wowace version, but a patch for it is okey :) |
| 17:50.49 | haste | I'm probably very 'out of it' when it comes to cvar changes now :( |
| 17:51.10 | haste | I'm trying to do as much coding as I can atm :p |
| 17:51.13 | Fin | I was looking for some sort of Config.wtf reference somewhere, but I can't find any |
| 17:51.20 | haste | but attempting to keep up with a friend while leveling is a bitch also |
| 17:51.29 | Fin | WoWWiki's version is unfortunately not very useful |
| 17:51.48 | Fin | yeah, levelling with someone else hardly ever works well in my opinion :) |
| 17:52.07 | Fin | you only need a day or two apart and the level difference means you can't group together effectively |
| 17:52.28 | Fin | so, uhm, any rough idea when you'd be able to update your gcode version of oTweaks? |
| 17:52.50 | Fin | ooh I got an infraction at elitistjerks.com |
| 17:52.55 | Fin | naughty |
| 17:54.04 | Pkekyo| | ~seen thul |
| 17:54.06 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 250 messages. Is idling for 3h 45m 5s, last said: 'like 1-3 raid pr week?'. |
| 17:54.55 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r57655 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillInfo.lua: |
| 17:54.55 | CIA-8 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 17:54.55 | CIA-8 | - add Links OpenMenu function |
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| 17:57.29 | Fin | hey, does anybody know anything about the cvar "UIFaster"? |
| 17:58.23 | ]Don | UIFaster changes the way our UI drawing engine gets all the icons, buttons, panels, and other UI elements drawn on screen. It also re-orders and combines drawing tasks to make them occur faster on the GPU. This is a cross platform setting. The useful settings are 0,1,2,3 - 3 is default. |
| 17:58.56 | Fin | ahaa, thanks very much! I was wondering what the default was |
| 17:59.06 | Fin | where did you find that please, JDon? |
| 17:59.14 | ]Don | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=84309375&sid=1 |
| 18:00.30 | Hjalte | My laptop can't play wow with the default UIFaster settings. The icons gets all messed up. |
| 18:01.15 | Fin | thanks - did you get that via the forum search? I tried the search, but even when I posted from a search results page, it didn't even find anything with my search terms that I'd picked from the pages listed previously |
| 18:01.54 | Fin | so really it's just a setting to allow people to decrease the graphics acceleration, not speed it up as implied by the setting name |
| 18:01.56 | ]Don | I just searched for UIFaster on google |
| 18:02.31 | Lukian | Message: ...nterface\AddOns\Ace2\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua line 487: |
| 18:02.31 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.32 | Fin | I guess I was using too complicated a search query on Google then |
| 18:02.52 | Fin | thanks though! much obligd |
| 18:02.53 | Fin | +e |
| 18:02.57 | Lukian | there's a bunch of translation breaks in the latest cart on WAU. |
| 18:03.06 | Fin | fix em! |
| 18:03.40 | Lukian | They'll be magically fixed after I go to sleep and wake up :p |
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| 18:06.49 | Fin | lazy bastard |
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| 18:09.08 | Lukian | vhaarr, [Ammo] : Violation doesn't count minion damage done (Mind controlled mobs) |
| 18:09.35 | Fin | is there a list anywhere that says what items fit in which types of container? |
| 18:10.20 | Lukian | someone suggested trying to put the item in the bag, then checking if it errors and dealing with it that way :o |
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| 18:11.32 | Arrowmaster | Fin: wowhead |
| 18:11.41 | Galka | What are people using these days for a buff duration timer bar? Ex: A bar to time Gouge's duration or Cyclone's, etc. |
| 18:12.33 | Lukian | nECB or Sorrens are good |
| 18:13.08 | Fisker- | ~seen xinhuan |
| 18:13.10 | purl | xinhuan <i=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 7m 28s ago, saying: 'anything serializable should be able to be reversed'. |
| 18:13.11 | Fin | Arrowmaster: ta! |
| 18:13.18 | Galka | Lukian, SorrenTimers on AceSVN? |
| 18:13.58 | Fin | Arrowmaster: uhm, where is it? sorry to be fick |
| 18:14.10 | Arrowmaster | look up an item |
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| 18:15.18 | [AR]Camci | anyone here uses any Adobe progs?` |
| 18:15.48 | Fin | Arrowmaster: hum, I'm not seeing it... |
| 18:15.59 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 18:16.04 | Arrowmaster | did they remove it |
| 18:16.26 | Fin | I *thought* it was on wowhead before at one point, but couldn't find it a while ago when I went to check |
| 18:16.43 | Fin | unless I'm being spectacularly blind I'm pretty sure it's not there now :/ |
| 18:16.46 | Lukian | It was broken with 2.3 |
| 18:16.49 | Lukian | let me check... |
| 18:16.49 | Pkekyo| | BEEP BEEP I'M A JEEP |
| 18:17.03 | Fin | what I'd really like is a list of all items that fit in each type of bag |
| 18:17.24 | Fin | I wonder if there's a way to get that out of the game data somehow... hmm |
| 18:17.47 | Lukian | yeah it got removed |
| 18:17.53 | Lukian | something in 2.3 broke it |
| 18:18.00 | Lukian | and incorrect items were listed in every bag |
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| 18:22.00 | Fisker- | BEEP BEEP I'M AN ALARM CLOCK |
| 18:22.05 | Fisker- | do i win? |
| 18:22.08 | Killmore | no |
| 18:22.14 | Fisker- | L:( |
| 18:22.16 | Fin | yes |
| 18:22.20 | Fisker- | yay |
| 18:22.28 | Fin | wait, what was the question? |
| 18:24.30 | Fisker- | something about your mother |
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| 18:31.24 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 18:33.30 | Hjalte | Anyone using Eavesdrop? |
| 18:33.45 | Hjalte | Oh, forget I said that. |
| 18:33.48 | haste | you are the only user! |
| 18:34.18 | Lukian | Hjalte, is that the combat log thing? |
| 18:34.59 | Hjalte | When using eavesdrop, there is one line at the bottom that never has anything in it. Did I do something wrong or will something appear there? |
| 18:35.44 | Hjalte | Lukian: Yeah. |
| 18:35.54 | Lukian | heh, I haven't used that in ages |
| 18:36.24 | Lukian | simplecombatlog is rather nice, but I still just use SWStat's UniLog to filter out what I want to see (usually after battles) |
| 18:36.52 | Pkekyo| | http://static.nettby.no/users/v/e/n/veneline/files/Haha_.jpg bwahahah |
| 18:37.02 | Fisker- | anyone knows if there's a maintained list of fishing nodes? |
| 18:37.05 | Lukian | omg keylogger ^ |
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| 18:40.19 | JoshBorke | poor kael, didn't get his xmas wish |
| 18:41.25 | mort | never found one |
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| 18:57.18 | Cheads | hmmm some people on msn send messages with a different font.. is it possible to override that? |
| 18:57.48 | Cheads | .. if anyone happen to know that =) |
| 18:58.03 | chiper | I dont use the real MSN client |
| 18:58.12 | chiper | Adium lets you override it tho |
| 18:58.47 | Cheads | yeah also miranda lets me do that, but would like to change it in windows live messenger too |
| 18:59.41 | Hjalte | Cheads: Get Messenger Plus, should allow you to override their fonts. |
| 19:00.34 | Cheads | ok will try, thanks |
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| 19:08.04 | Cheads | found the option.. great =) |
| 19:15.03 | Hjalte | Cheads: Who doesn't just love screamy pink text? |
| 19:15.17 | Cheads | hehe |
| 19:15.57 | Cheads | why is it that messages sent by girls *always* are in some odd font with an evil color? |
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| 19:16.19 | Pkekyo| | because women are all odd and evil? |
| 19:16.25 | Pkekyo| | O.o |
| 19:16.32 | Hjalte | Cheads: Because all your girl friends are 13 years or younger? |
| 19:17.13 | Cheads | more like 30+ sadly hehe |
| 19:17.49 | Pkekyo| | Hjalte: I know girls far up into the twenties and lover thirties with evil colors, odd fonts, and a gazillion fucking emoticons bound to every single key on the bloody keyboard |
| 19:18.17 | Pkekyo| | it's scary :< |
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| 19:36.09 | sb | !ar 300 |
| 19:36.09 | ThraeBot | sb: Arena rating from 300 points is, 2v2: 1545, 3v3: 1487, 5v5: 1302 |
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| 19:41.08 | Birdemani | is there a tourguide addition for Azuermyst Isle? |
| 19:41.20 | Hjalte | Whenever my buffs/debuffs in Pitbull is more than 1 line, it sorts of lifts up 1 line so there is one empty line of nothing between the UF and my buffs :\ Anyone got a solution or so? using the regular buffs module |
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| 19:48.45 | pprovost | Not sure if we have any Waterfall experts online now, but does anyone know how to force a refresh of the treeview? I've updated the AceOptions data table and called Waterfall:Refresh() but it didn't do what I expected. |
| 19:52.27 | vithos | Hjalte: try Pitbull_AltAura |
| 19:52.53 | Hjalte | vithos: Tried that some time ago, it had some other trouble. |
| 19:53.16 | Hjalte | However, someone did post a solution in here at some point |
| 19:53.28 | vithos | try it again? it's what i used last before i switched to x-perl, and i don't believe it did that |
| 19:59.06 | vithos | also, i think i had to disable the original auras module |
| 20:00.05 | Pkekyo| | geif dewdrop, waterfall sucks :< |
| 20:04.49 | pprovost | Waterfall might not be perfect, but menu driven configuration is terrible from a usability standpoint. |
| 20:09.30 | Fin | er |
| 20:09.44 | Fin | Waterfall isn't a menu driven configuration system? |
| 20:10.28 | Cheads | Birdemani the latest tourguide on wowinterface has azuremyst isle guide, just not Bloodmyst Isle |
| 20:11.05 | Fisker- | anyone knows if there's a maintained list of fishing nodes? |
| 20:11.29 | Osstia|home | Fisker-: never seen one |
| 20:12.43 | dylanm_ | Uh there's wowhead, no? |
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| 20:17.38 | Fisker- | don't know how to extract it from wowhead :( |
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| 20:27.12 | mort | maybe ask the person who does it for mining/herbs? |
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| 20:31.56 | Polarina | Riddle: How does one represent the number 1024 using only three letters in Lua? |
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| 20:33.34 | [Ammo] | 400 |
| 20:33.36 | [Ammo] | hex :) |
| 20:34.19 | Polarina | [Ammo]: 400 is 400, You would have to use 0x400 which is 5 characters in total. |
| 20:36.25 | Polarina | This is supposed to be a easy one... |
| 20:36.41 | Donra | 4^9? |
| 20:36.50 | Polarina | Donra: No. |
| 20:37.46 | Osstia|home | 4^5 |
| 20:37.59 | Polarina | Osstia|home: Correct. |
| 20:38.18 | Donra | yeah, silly me :) |
| 20:38.41 | Polarina | Donra: 262144 ~= 1024 |
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| 20:40.04 | Osstia|home | If I wante dto mimic a frame similar to the in-game macro scree, are the slots that the new macros go into buttons? |
| 20:40.34 | Polarina | I'm going to put up more riddles on #lua. |
| 20:40.48 | Osstia|home | I'd like to have a frame with maybe 6-10 buttons on a frame that I can drag items into |
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| 21:12.27 | Osstia|home | I have a button that is attached to the side of a frame of mine, the button isn't appearing though until I mouse over it |
| 21:14.43 | smoke_ | does witchhunt see grounding totem? it doesnt seem to catch it was wondering if it was a part of it |
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| 21:19.52 | Osstia|mac | no idea smoke, never used it |
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| 21:22.34 | Pkekyo| | smoke what? O.o |
| 21:22.36 | Pkekyo| | is it legal? |
| 21:22.46 | Pkekyo| | more important: is it any good? |
| 21:24.15 | Pkekyo| | any EU peeps got problems logging in? |
| 21:24.29 | Daemona | hmmm anyone else getting this error when mouse-overing the TopScoreFu Fubar icon? -> http://wowace.pastey.net/79752 |
| 21:24.40 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Yes |
| 21:24.40 | Daemona | Pkekyo| yes, but it just works again now |
| 21:24.52 | Daemona | couldnt login for ~20 minutes |
| 21:24.57 | Pkekyo| | Daemona: not 5sec ago it didn't |
| 21:25.00 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Looks like a login server problem, which mostly turns out to be a telia routing problem |
| 21:25.13 | thul | [22:24:00] < Mazater> "At the moment we are experiencing login and authentication issues, meaning that if you are disconnected, or newly trying to login to the game, you will not be able to do so. We are working diligently to resolve this issue as soon as possible so that you can all enjoy playing once again. " |
| 21:25.18 | thul | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=1D725E0C6C6E1D3EF190EE1FC7597918.app09_02?topicId=2111544291&sid=1 |
| 21:25.29 | thul | 0. 29/11/2007 - Login/Authentication issues | 29/12/2007 13:15:17 PST |
| 21:25.29 | thul | Hello everyone, |
| 21:25.29 | thul | At the moment we are experiencing login and authentication issues, meaning that if you are disconnected, or newly trying to login to the game, you will not be able to do so. We are working diligently to resolve this issue as soon as possible so that you can all enjoy playing once again. |
| 21:25.34 | thul | We apologise for this inconvenience, and hope you can bear with us for now. |
| 21:25.37 | thul | Thanks, |
| 21:25.39 | thul | The Gamemaster Team |
| 21:26.02 | Fin | Pkekyo|: yeah, I can't log in |
| 21:26.12 | thul | read my words people :-P |
| 21:26.25 | Pkekyo| | screw Mazater |
| 21:26.45 | Pkekyo| | also screw telia routing problems |
| 21:26.49 | Pkekyo| | thul: got my /msg earlier? |
| 21:27.11 | thul | Pkekyo|: mhm, answered too |
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| 21:27.12 | thul | :-P |
| 21:27.36 | Pkekyo| | you did? nothing popped here |
| 21:27.46 | Pkekyo| | so...what did I ask, and what was the answer? :p |
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| 21:28.16 | thul | now Pkekyo| ? :-P |
| 21:28.38 | Fin | are you registered, thul? |
| 21:28.42 | Pkekyo| | aye, thul |
| 21:28.42 | Fin | on Freenode, that is |
| 21:28.48 | Pkekyo| | yes he is |
| 21:28.57 | thul | mhm Fin |
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| 21:44.25 | Hjalte | thul: Is that EU or US? |
| 21:45.43 | thul | Hjalte: eu |
| 21:45.47 | thul | but my server is up again |
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| 22:00.00 | Pkekyo| | I still can't login :< /wrist |
| 22:06.18 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: ping |
| 22:06.29 | Pkekyo| | pong |
| 22:06.54 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 22:08.28 | Pkekyo| | hai2u |
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| 22:21.50 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, blizz claims they've solved the login problem...still can't login |
| 22:24.25 | Pkekyo| | anyone able to log in? |
| 22:26.01 | thul | I am |
| 22:26.10 | thul | been logged in the last 20-30 minutes |
| 22:26.17 | thul | 30-40 actually |
| 22:26.21 | exor674 | I'm in right now, so NTS: Don't relog |
| 22:26.27 | Pkekyo| | bah! |
| 22:26.56 | exor674 | someone on my friends list just came online |
| 22:27.02 | exor674 | but they coulda been on alt |
| 22:27.28 | thul | http://www.last.fm/user/thul/ <- you can admire my music while waiting Pkekyo| :-P |
| 22:27.37 | Orionshock | >.> when my addon uses more memory it never let's go of it... not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing.... |
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| 22:28.27 | Pkekyo| | thul: eew :p |
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| 22:28.53 | potemkin | anyone know how to make a .5 second delay before starting a certain function |
| 22:28.57 | thul | :-D |
| 22:29.03 | exor674 | Orionshock: remember to nil stuff out? |
| 22:29.06 | thul | sleep 5, goto 4 |
| 22:29.07 | thul | :-P |
| 22:29.07 | Orionshock | potemkin: frame on update |
| 22:29.07 | Pkekyo| | don't worry too much 'bout it, Orionshock...that's what I thought about your mother at furst :p |
| 22:29.46 | Orionshock | exor674: im using lots and lots of tables... and i've got table recycling functions... |
| 22:29.57 | Pkekyo| | meh, been trying to login for an hour |
| 22:30.10 | Orionshock | ive honestly tried to write it to use the least ammount of new memory if i could. |
| 22:30.16 | Nargiddley | Orionshock, do you always get new tables from the cache ? |
| 22:30.25 | Orionshock | yes |
| 22:30.43 | Orionshock | only one set of {} in the entire file |
| 22:31.51 | Orionshock | ok.. wrong there, |
| 22:31.59 | Nargiddley | what does your cache table look like ? |
| 22:32.07 | Orionshock | there is no {} in the core functions anywhere |
| 22:32.22 | Orionshock | setmetatable(tablePool, {__mode = "kv"});-- Weak table |
| 22:32.35 | Orionshock | graciously stolen from Xinhuan 's bank items addons :D |
| 22:32.47 | Nargiddley | ok, and you add to it with tablePool[t] = true ? |
| 22:32.57 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.11 | Nargiddley | its just you collecting lots of informtion then |
| 22:33.23 | Orionshock | ya... |
| 22:33.25 | Nargiddley | or holding table refs somewhere else |
| 22:34.12 | Orionshock | nope, reload ui and get the same mem useage |
| 22:34.45 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.18 | Orionshock | what i really need is about 40+ ppl testing it... |
| 22:35.27 | Orionshock | but alas i don' |
| 22:35.31 | Orionshock | t have that sorta pool |
| 22:39.28 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Orionshock. |
| 22:39.34 | Orionshock | meh... |
| 22:39.36 | Zhinjio | couldn't get GuildCraft to talk between two toons |
| 22:39.48 | Orionshock | ya ... i gave it a nil check... |
| 22:39.51 | ag` | looney toons! |
| 22:40.01 | Orionshock | and it was nil so it didn't work... |
| 22:40.26 | Zhinjio | heh. ok. |
| 22:41.15 | Orionshock | anyway , update should have some nice stuff |
| 22:41.26 | Orionshock | i set it up as a proper addon now |
| 22:41.55 | Orionshock | as a " -Ace3- Addon " :P |
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| 22:43.50 | Zhinjio | does that mean its embedded now? |
| 22:44.07 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what all that implies |
| 22:44.15 | Orionshock | ya :D |
| 22:44.19 | Zhinjio | ok |
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| 22:47.19 | Zhinjio | where should I point people who want to help test? I"m asking in my guild now |
| 22:47.32 | Zhinjio | same google code site? |
| 22:48.47 | Orionshock | ya |
| 22:49.00 | Orionshock | guess i should make a zip... |
| 22:49.38 | Silowyi | http://www.realmhistory.net/arena-statistics/class-breakdown.html ooh I like this site |
| 22:50.45 | Zhinjio | please? Some of the people that might help won't be able to "improvise" |
| 22:51.27 | Orionshock | lol |
| 22:51.30 | Orionshock | ya it's up |
| 22:51.51 | Orionshock | r225 |
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| 23:01.24 | Zhinjio | ok, new version installed, loading up now |
| 23:03.34 | Zhinjio | did you say you enabled a /-command for the browser now too? |
| 23:04.11 | Zhinjio | ah, /gcb |
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| 23:04.47 | Zhinjio | hmm, I'm still getting the same "No Trades from Guild available" |
| 23:04.52 | Zhinjio | after doing a publish |
| 23:04.55 | Zhinjio | on both toons |
| 23:05.00 | Xuerian | certainly shows the favored classes |
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| 23:11.48 | Wogroipl | pugging SSC is fun :) |
| 23:12.06 | Wogroipl | only Leotheras and Cashj left |
| 23:13.04 | Wogroipl | Vashj ofcourse |
| 23:13.22 | exor674 | pugging... SSC? |
| 23:13.38 | exor674 | isn't that like asking someone to stab you in the face |
| 23:13.43 | exor674 | ... multiple times |
| 23:14.10 | Zicon | With a rusty spoon. |
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| 23:15.13 | exor674 | SPORT! |
| 23:15.17 | exor674 | er SPORK! |
| 23:15.25 | dylanm | Wogroipl: You're brave. |
| 23:15.34 | Vorda | ./script macros are lua right? |
| 23:17.19 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:17.32 | ulic | yes |
| 23:17.56 | Vorda | Ok, my gut tells me a macro like this shouldnt work since 2.0.1, but someone here is saying it does, any idea why it does/doesnt? |
| 23:18.04 | Vorda | ./script if ( UnitHealthMax("Belmon") - UnitHealth("Belmon") > 50 ) then CastSpellByName("Consume Shadows"); end |
| 23:18.46 | Zicon | Should work fine ... out of combat, and you can only cast that spell out of combat anyway... :P |
| 23:19.08 | Vorda | ah, only in combat lockdown, shouldv known that ) |
| 23:23.56 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: try reseting the db |
| 23:24.02 | Orionshock | ?/resetdb |
| 23:24.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.35 | thul | hmm, bloodthirst's healing should scale with damage |
| 23:28.50 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 23:30.15 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: nmd, found it |
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| 23:36.26 | Orionshock | & updated and new zip |
| 23:38.25 | Zhinjio | copy. I'll be back on that toon shortly |
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| 23:44.27 | Pkekyo| | can anyone explain me how the flying fuck warriors being able to change stances whilst dead was so bloody overpowered it had to be nerfed? |
| 23:44.45 | Orionshock | was a glitch |
| 23:44.56 | Pkekyo| | what was? |
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| 23:45.13 | Pkekyo| | warriors being able to change stances? |
| 23:48.14 | thul | Pkekyo|: how much crit/hit/ap should I aim for at 70 with s1/kara-gear? |
| 23:50.57 | Vorda | hmm, can anyone tell me why this isnt working (ooc): /script if (UnitHealth("Pet") < 60 ) then CastSpellByName("Consume Shadows"); end |
| 23:51.26 | Orionshock | CSBN is a protected fucntion and cannot be called by non-blizzard addons |
| 23:51.55 | Orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CastSpellByName |
| 23:52.06 | Orionshock | non-blizzard addons are not secure |
| 23:52.24 | Vorda | thanks :) then the guy was lying when he told me /script if ( UnitHealthMax("Belmon") - UnitHealth("Belmon") > 50 ) then CastSpellByName("Consume Shadows"); end worked? |
| 23:52.46 | Orionshock | well.. does it work? |
| 23:52.58 | Orionshock | if it dosn't then yes he was lying to you |
| 23:53.00 | Vorda | I dont have any pet class alt :( |
| 23:53.01 | Pkekyo| | thul: for what purpose? |
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| 23:53.23 | thul | Pkekyo|: just in general, random casual gaming :-P like my rogue for instance: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve <- |
| 23:53.29 | thul | that is random casual gear |
| 23:53.35 | exor674 | Vorda: also, UnitHealth("pet") returns the ACTUAL health |
| 23:53.38 | exor674 | not a precentage |
| 23:53.41 | Pkekyo| | pvp? fury dps? tanking? |
| 23:53.44 | thul | how much ap/crit would a similarly geared war get? |
| 23:53.55 | Orionshock | Although this function is protected, you can still use it to open Craft windows and activate Lock Picking. |
| 23:53.57 | Orionshock | lol |
| 23:54.11 | Vorda | Aha, I'll try that, thanks exor :) |
| 23:54.21 | Vorda | (well, I'll tell him to try that) |
| 23:54.57 | exor674 | well, the CastSpellByName is still aproblem |
| 23:55.12 | Pkekyo| | thul: armory's bugging out on me...anyways... for what purpose? pvp? fury dps? |
| 23:55.28 | Vorda | I'll steal someones lock once login servers are back to test it |
| 23:55.47 | Vorda | protected refers to OOC actions aswell I suppose? |
| 23:55.57 | thul | fury dps with casual pvp.. but I guess that you can't casual pvp anything funny with fury dps-build |
| 23:56.09 | thul | maybe I should gear him up to do arenas/bgs only |
| 23:56.17 | thul | s1 gear first and go from there |
| 23:56.25 | Pkekyo| | for fury dps: get as close to 200 hit as you can |
| 23:56.34 | Pkekyo| | then stack crit and strength like a motherfucker |
| 23:56.50 | Pkekyo| | for pvp, stack stamina and crit...AP is of slightly less importance |
| 23:57.44 | Pkekyo| | don't be running 'round with 900 AP and 60% critchance or anything though |
