| 00:00.06 | vhaarr | I included a small set of default notes |
| 00:00.10 | vhaarr | contributions are welcome |
| 00:00.22 | Pkekyo| | kergoth: just make it ninja immune messages from combatlog and parse them to tooltip |
| 00:00.23 | kergoth | damn you, i have too many addons in my addons dir already |
| 00:00.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:00.29 | vhaarr | it's small :P |
| 00:00.29 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr: how does mobnotes work? |
| 00:00.36 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: look at the source |
| 00:00.39 | vhaarr | it's simple |
| 00:00.55 | Pkekyo| | just tell me in layman's temrs what it does :p |
| 00:01.10 | vhaarr | it adds a note to some mobs like "Can be sheeped and stunned." |
| 00:01.25 | vhaarr | comes with default notes for ZA trash, malacrass adds and moroes adds. |
| 00:01.32 | vhaarr | so far |
| 00:01.33 | Pkekyo| | in the tooltip? |
| 00:01.36 | vhaarr | yes |
| 00:01.47 | ag` | what do they say? |
| 00:01.54 | Pkekyo| | and besides that, you'd manually have to add messages? |
| 00:01.56 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Sounds good :) |
| 00:01.56 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> it adds a note to some mobs like "Can be sheeped and stunned." |
| 00:02.00 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: right |
| 00:02.08 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|: or give them to me so I can include them |
| 00:02.22 | Pkekyo| | much easier to ninja out of combatlog what CAN'T be done imo - for the end user, atleast |
| 00:02.37 | vhaarr | I'm not interested in your opinion |
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| 00:03.48 | ag` | :p |
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| 00:04.38 | kergoth | write a little addon to ninja those messages and inject them into mobnotes's SV, perhaps. then it's still flexible for adding any notes, but would gain those bits automatically? |
| 00:05.26 | khangg | Does anyone ever get a message in your chat box saying 'No player named Unknown is currently playing'? |
| 00:05.49 | Antiarc | Yes, it's from RockLib trying to query talents over someone whose name isn't known to the client yet |
| 00:05.51 | Pkekyo| | khangg: when shift+clicking goldspammer names |
| 00:06.07 | vhaarr | kergoth: that could be interesting, at least if those "Your Polymorph fails. X is immune." and "Your Wound Poison fails. X is immune." etc messages are generated from the same event. |
| 00:06.13 | khangg | Antiarc, any way to stop it? |
| 00:06.27 | Antiarc | Don't use Rock-based addons, mostly. |
| 00:06.29 | Antiarc | Though |
| 00:06.35 | Antiarc | You can turn off talent queries too |
| 00:06.37 | Antiarc | I think |
| 00:06.49 | Antiarc | Type /rock and see if you can find an option to turn off talent queries/responses |
| 00:10.20 | vhaarr | kergoth: actually it's CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 00:10.31 | vhaarr | which is fired pretty often |
| 00:13.02 | Pkekyo| | should be possible to just look for 'is immune' in combatlog though, shouldn't it? |
| 00:13.16 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56773 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Typo fix + add a todo comment. |
| 00:13.55 | Pkekyo| | love it when people talk about 'audio and sound' |
| 00:13.56 | vhaarr | obviously, but the event is fired so often that it would upgrade the addon from a "barely noticable on your resources" to a "scans almost all your combat log messages with regexps". |
| 00:14.45 | kergoth | maybe just wait for 2.4 |
| 00:14.49 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 00:15.13 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Make that feature have an on/off switch? then when passing through a new part of an instance, people could turn it on. |
| 00:15.15 | kergoth | would be cool to add other notes for people new to instances even.. "this mob summons" |
| 00:15.17 | kergoth | "kill this one first" |
| 00:15.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:15.23 | kergoth | yeah, thatd be useful |
| 00:15.38 | Pkekyo| | what happens in 2.4? |
| 00:15.48 | kergoth | they're reworking the combat log |
| 00:15.52 | kergoth | unique ids for mobs and crap |
| 00:16.03 | Pkekyo| | sweet |
| 00:16.50 | vhaarr | kergoth: yeah it has that as well, maybe read the default notes it comes with to see what I mean |
| 00:16.57 | kergoth | kk, cool |
| 00:16.58 | vhaarr | guess I should add a guideline comment |
| 00:17.01 | vhaarr | for new notes |
| 00:17.46 | Pkekyo| | unique mob IDs will work wonders for omen, I guess..? |
| 00:19.40 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56774 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Added guidelines for new default notes. |
| 00:20.14 | Hjalte | Pkekyo|: Yeah, it will. |
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| 00:20.45 | Flexom | argh..... is there any other addons than omen that gives audible threat warnings? I keep getting that annoying aggro sound even though it's disabled.... |
| 00:20.57 | Antiarc | Banzai? |
| 00:21.07 | Antiarc | Omen warns on high threat levels, not on aggro |
| 00:21.11 | Pkekyo| | vhaarr = rabbit? |
| 00:21.16 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 00:21.24 | kebinusan | vhaarr: neat mod |
| 00:21.27 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 00:21.28 | Silowyi | anyone know how to turn on swlog? |
| 00:21.43 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: what mod? |
| 00:22.19 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: all my mods |
| 00:22.27 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: itemrack > CG |
| 00:22.29 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:22.30 | Flexom | Antiarc: don't have banzai afaik, and sound in omen is disabled |
| 00:22.38 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: MobNotes |
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| 00:22.42 | JoshBorke | oh, lame |
| 00:22.43 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 00:22.47 | Hjalte | Seems files.wowace.com is down |
| 00:22.54 | Hjalte | Oh, not anymore. |
| 00:23.04 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: takes one to know one! |
| 00:23.52 | Hjalte | Anyone else not able to use WAU2 at the moment? Won't connect. |
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| 00:27.40 | buu | =[ |
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| 00:31.45 | Diao | what do you mean turn it on Silowyi |
| 00:33.52 | Flexom | Antiarc: gridalert..... finally got rid of the sound :p |
| 00:40.45 | Mudkipz | how do we register nicks on freenode again? |
| 00:40.55 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.58 | Mudkipz | k thx |
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| 00:41.38 | sedatedChipmunk | /msg hyperChipmunk <yourpassword> |
| 00:42.06 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 00:42.17 | Wobwork | good thing HyperChipmunk isn't online =P |
| 00:42.27 | xyu | Does anyone know how to use pally power for 10min blessings? my friend figured it out but i can't :P |
| 00:42.48 | Diao | ask your friend? |
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| 00:42.59 | xyu | he's on the road. |
| 00:43.02 | kappakappuccino | o/ |
| 00:43.02 | Diao | lol |
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| 00:53.27 | kappakappuccino | hey what irc script do you guys use? |
| 00:54.31 | kergoth | why bother with scripts? i use xchat and that's enough |
| 00:55.58 | kappakappuccino | well I guess it's because I hang out in rizon most |
| 00:56.14 | kappakappuccino | lots of assbaggery there |
| 01:01.56 | hyperChipmunk | i use .ircrc |
| 01:02.07 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
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| 01:03.43 | Keias | Yeah, I just use Xchat also :( |
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| 01:08.23 | kergoth | hmm, enduring talasites sell pretty quickly |
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| 01:28.18 | kenlyric | no |
| 01:28.21 | kenlyric | you undercharged. |
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| 01:35.05 | CIA-12 | 03fieroivan * r56775 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: fix Zul'Farrak map notes |
| 01:35.23 | Xyphor | today was my lucky day :p |
| 01:35.34 | Silowyi | so 8 defense rating is how much percent wise? (not points of defense...) |
| 01:39.56 | kergoth | kenlyric: hmm.. been selling em for around 45-50g |
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| 01:57.50 | RaydenUni | star shards does almost nothing |
| 01:58.31 | RaydenUni | and the music in the UC throne room is pretty trippy |
| 01:58.35 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:58.45 | kenlyric | starshards is fucking free. |
| 01:58.55 | RaydenUni | and battlegrounds is much more fun for a 29 druid than is it for a 19 druid |
| 01:59.01 | RaydenUni | i'm just saying |
| 01:59.04 | RaydenUni | it's more of an annoyance |
| 02:00.10 | kenlyric | that's all starshards ever was. |
| 02:00.14 | kenlyric | to kill runaway rogues |
| 02:00.30 | RaydenUni | but druid at 29 is fun |
| 02:00.37 | RaydenUni | i'm a less effective rogue who can heal :) |
| 02:01.08 | aestil | lets say i have a file i need to check, cause i'm not sure of how clean it is. |
| 02:01.13 | aestil | 4 iso's |
| 02:01.30 | aestil | is there an effective way to do that? |
| 02:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | that doesn't even make sense |
| 02:02.17 | hyperChipmunk | you're checking whether it is indeed a string of bits? could it be anything else? |
| 02:05.10 | kenlyric | 11111111111111111111111 |
| 02:05.35 | aestil | like, lets say, i burn them on to cd's. is there a way to make sure i did't d/l virus's? |
| 02:06.57 | hyperChipmunk | run all executables on them with full permissions and see what happens after a day or so |
| 02:07.14 | aestil | that sounds scary. |
| 02:07.20 | aestil | :) |
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| 02:25.34 | Funkeh` | gn |
| 02:29.51 | RaydenUni | how rare is the subtlety cloak enchant pattern? |
| 02:29.52 | RaydenUni | -2% threat |
| 02:31.06 | Xyphor | Buyble from factions now? |
| 02:31.57 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 02:32.03 | RaydenUni | you can buy it from thallmar exalted |
| 02:32.31 | Xyphor | yup |
| 02:33.22 | Xyphor | it used to be rare though |
| 02:34.14 | RaydenUni | blast |
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| 02:34.22 | RaydenUni | i can buy 1 or 10 small prismatic shard on the AH |
| 02:35.33 | Xyphor | What was the page to view PaperDoll source? |
| 02:37.51 | Ellipsis | ~framexml |
| 02:37.51 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 02:38.04 | Xyphor | yup, that last one. Ty :) |
| 02:39.25 | Jaxon | I wish you could cast sequence /petattack |
| 02:40.11 | Ellipsis | why would you need to? o.O |
| 02:41.33 | Jaxon | So I can take brb Kael |
| 02:46.30 | Jaxon | So I can turn my pet attack keybind into a macro that I can double tap it to attack and then dash. |
| 02:46.49 | RaydenUni | is there anything for a shadowpriest to buy with Spirit Shards? |
| 02:47.55 | Xyphor | meta gem |
| 02:48.02 | Jaxon | A really shitty meta gem. |
| 02:48.04 | RaydenUni | spellfire hoodie |
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| 02:56.33 | Shadowed | Anyone in a BG right now? Need to test a really quick function return |
| 02:57.40 | mort | [03:47:24] <RaydenUni> is there anything for a shadowpriest to buy with Spirit Shards? <- mana pots |
| 02:58.25 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 02:58.26 | RaydenUni | sucks |
| 03:01.14 | Wobwork | I used spirit shards to buy a spare metagem slot |
| 03:01.21 | Wobwork | for the half spellspeed meta |
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| 03:01.58 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 03:03.57 | hyperChipmunk | situational gear |
| 03:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | someone who wouldn't use it normally wouldn't waste a metagem slot on a real piece of equipment for it |
| 03:05.18 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 03:05.28 | Wobwork | well for me it's a single situation item |
| 03:05.34 | Wobwork | ie "Tame Ghostwolf" |
| 03:05.43 | Wobwork | aka "Tame omgGhostwolfomgomg" |
| 03:05.55 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, I figured as much |
| 03:05.58 | Wobwork | ^^ |
| 03:06.03 | hyperChipmunk | but i just abstracted it for ya |
| 03:06.03 | Wobwork | Still haven't managed it =P |
| 03:06.24 | Wobwork | it's so hard to get a willing shammy and a priest on at the same time =P |
| 03:06.25 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 03:06.26 | RaydenUni | heh nice |
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| 03:08.41 | Lightfaz | So I took your advice and started switching to Ace2 addons |
| 03:08.56 | Lightfaz | Quick question, though; how do you disable the blizz xp bar in order to use xpbarnone in its place? |
| 03:13.43 | dylanm | I'm guessing you |
| 03:13.49 | dylanm | are using the default action bars? |
| 03:13.52 | Lightfaz | yeah |
| 03:14.00 | Lightfaz | Id like to keep them for now if possible |
| 03:14.24 | dylanm | I'm not sure that there are any mods that disable specifically the XP bar. Most people are using bar mods that replace and hide the default ABs so... |
| 03:14.41 | Lightfaz | OHH |
| 03:14.42 | Lightfaz | whoops |
| 03:14.43 | Lightfaz | silly me |
| 03:14.49 | Lightfaz | had AvgXP loaded |
| 03:14.51 | Lightfaz | haha |
| 03:14.55 | Lightfaz | that would explain that |
| 03:15.42 | dylanm | It wouldn't be hard to code but... |
| 03:15.50 | dylanm | http://wowuibeta.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=541 is really old |
| 03:16.21 | Antiarc | Man |
| 03:16.25 | Antiarc | Kael is so easy now :/ |
| 03:16.35 | Antiarc | The 10% HP nerf made the fight immensely easier |
| 03:16.53 | dylanm | Hell it's a one-line addon really... MainMenuExpBar:Hide() |
| 03:19.44 | dylanm | Antiarc do you get mad dkp for writing the threat meter that pretty much everyone uses now |
| 03:19.58 | Antiarc | Heh, no |
| 03:20.04 | Antiarc | I just get mocked like crazy for not watching them |
| 03:20.25 | Antiarc | My guildmates are all |
| 03:20.37 | Antiarc | "Man, someone should write a threat mod so Adrine doesn't die all the time" |
| 03:20.40 | Antiarc | And then I'm all "QQ" |
| 03:20.41 | dylanm | It tickles me relentlessly that you're a rogue. |
| 03:20.47 | Antiarc | Heh, why? |
| 03:21.05 | Antiarc | I have warrior and shadow priest alts if that helps! |
| 03:21.15 | Antiarc | But I am a programmer and giant geek first and foremost |
| 03:21.24 | Antiarc | I actually wrote Omen because KTM offended my programmer-ness |
| 03:21.34 | Antiarc | Not because I wanted a better threat meter for my rogue :P |
| 03:21.44 | dylanm | Just because it seems like the general opinion is that rogues are dumb as toast about everything, especially threat. |
| 03:21.52 | Antiarc | Nah |
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| 03:22.03 | Xinhuan | buu: yes? |
| 03:22.06 | Antiarc | Rogues - good ones - tend to be some of the more analytical players, I've found |
| 03:22.16 | Antiarc | Dumb rogues are dumber than a sack of bricks, though |
| 03:22.54 | RaydenUni | it's a bit of a countering class |
| 03:23.03 | RaydenUni | you can't just use all your attack spells to get the job done |
| 03:23.11 | Antiarc | Every class has its retard brigade, to be fair |
| 03:23.13 | RaydenUni | you have to string stuff together more precisely |
| 03:23.25 | RaydenUni | i haven't seen any really dumb shadow priests :P |
| 03:23.31 | RaydenUni | but then again i rarely group with one |
| 03:23.33 | dylanm | Go us. |
| 03:23.34 | dylanm | Oh. |
| 03:23.42 | RaydenUni | i mean who needs 2 shadow priests in a 5 man? |
| 03:23.44 | dylanm | Gooo statistics. |
| 03:23.44 | Antiarc | Shadow priesting is something that's hard to do wel |
| 03:23.53 | Antiarc | But it's not hard to find really mediocre shadow priests |
| 03:24.07 | RaydenUni | the thing is you can be medicore without much work |
| 03:24.13 | RaydenUni | just throw up VT and SWP |
| 03:24.17 | dylanm | I'm not so sure that it's hard... I mean really. Get your DoT priority straight and don't pull aggro. |
| 03:24.52 | Antiarc | Well, timing your casts to maximize your DOT uptime without wastimg DOT tick time can be tricky |
| 03:24.55 | RaydenUni | if !VT, then VT, if !SWP, then SWP, if SWD.cooldown, then SWD, if MB.cooldown, then MB |
| 03:25.12 | RaydenUni | else MF |
| 03:25.39 | RaydenUni | yeah i can't imagine not having a dot timer bar like classtimer |
| 03:25.41 | dylanm | Antiarc: I used to think that but the prevailing opinion is that thinking about rotations is bad. You just go down the list and make sure things are there every couple of seconds. |
| 03:26.00 | dylanm | Somtimes you get timing issues, sure. You have a couple cooldowns that need to be managed. |
| 03:26.08 | RaydenUni | i haven't played another class that has rotations, but you can't with a spriest |
| 03:26.15 | RaydenUni | all your cooldowns are staggered |
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| 03:28.26 | RaydenUni | what do you guys think about a front loaded decaying dot? |
| 03:28.48 | RaydenUni | so if you want to do more dps you could recast it sooner |
| 03:29.08 | Antiarc | Inverse curse of agony? |
| 03:29.30 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 03:29.36 | Antiarc | Seems like it'd have to be stacked really heavily on the front end to be worth it, which would make it exceptionally powerful in PVP versus dispells |
| 03:29.43 | Antiarc | Since the first couple of ticks would be the most devastating |
| 03:29.49 | Antiarc | So I'm going to go with "overpowered" |
| 03:29.53 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 03:29.57 | RaydenUni | yeah i hadn't thought about pvp |
| 03:30.16 | dylanm | Gotta think about PvP. It's what brings the qqs. |
| 03:30.25 | Antiarc | On my shaman I have purge bound to Q |
| 03:30.37 | Antiarc | It amuses me that I run around purging off buffs by spamming QQQQQQQQ |
| 03:30.37 | RaydenUni | if you make it more expensive than a spike |
| 03:30.41 | mort | gah, i hate purge |
| 03:30.52 | RaydenUni | or use exponential decay |
| 03:31.02 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 03:31.05 | CIA-12 | 03xyphor * r56776 10PowerDisplay/ (pdMain.lua pdOptions.lua pdUpdate.lua): |
| 03:31.05 | CIA-12 | PowerDisplay |
| 03:31.05 | CIA-12 | - Added Weapon Skill |
| 03:31.05 | CIA-12 | - First tryout on dogtags (please post mistakes on forum) |
| 03:31.06 | RaydenUni | i use Q and E for strafing |
| 03:32.25 | RaydenUni | it's fun dispeling people in pvp |
| 03:32.32 | RaydenUni | even more fun is dispeling bubbles with greater dispel |
| 03:33.06 | RaydenUni | mass dispel |
| 03:33.59 | markm__ | is there a good ace mod that handles trash timers? |
| 03:34.07 | durcyn | markm__: Incubator |
| 03:34.08 | markm__ | the NECB author seems to have quit playing wow |
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| 03:34.35 | NivFreak | does it have ZA timers? |
| 03:41.27 | Lightfaz | How do you make the pitbull player/target/etc frames wider? |
| 03:42.08 | Lightfaz | Found it, nvm |
| 03:43.50 | NivFreak | I want elite and class icons for pitbull |
| 03:43.59 | NivFreak | :) |
| 03:43.59 | Diao | there are class icons |
| 03:44.03 | Diao | o_O |
| 03:44.08 | NivFreak | not in the portrait frame :P |
| 03:44.12 | NivFreak | I want both |
| 03:44.32 | Hjalte | You can have it colour the border when the target is elite? |
| 03:44.35 | Diao | lol |
| 03:44.41 | NivFreak | Hjalte: yes I know... |
| 03:44.45 | NivFreak | but it's not as clear |
| 03:44.48 | NivFreak | as a crest |
| 03:45.53 | Xinhuan | what does |
| 03:45.56 | Xinhuan | local num = (...) |
| 03:45.57 | Xinhuan | do? |
| 03:46.11 | Xinhuan | get the first arg in the vararg? |
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| 03:50.09 | Antiarc | I think it should |
| 03:50.49 | Xinhuan | does select(2, ...) return all args from 2 onwards? or just the 2nd arg? |
| 03:51.46 | ulic | all on I do believe |
| 03:53.31 | ulic | cladbot: lua> select(2, {"test1", "test2", "test3"}) |
| 03:53.39 | ulic | yea bot's not here |
| 03:55.18 | Xinhuan | lua> select(2, {"test1", "test2", "test3"}) |
| 03:55.19 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: |
| 03:55.35 | Xinhuan | lua> select(2, "test1", "test2", "test3") |
| 03:55.35 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: test2, test3, |
| 03:56.39 | ulic | oh no table :) |
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| 04:24.12 | Xuerian | vararg is a tuple |
| 04:27.27 | Korben | hi im looking for a mod like move anything |
| 04:27.32 | Korben | anyone got suggestion ? |
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| 04:48.05 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r56777 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 04:48.23 | buu | Xinhuan: I had a question about Cartographer_routes and such. |
| 04:48.27 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 04:48.58 | khangg | Korben, Visor2? :S |
| 04:49.40 | khangg | lua> select(2, "test1", "test2", "test3") |
| 04:49.41 | lua_bot | khangg: test2, test3, |
| 04:49.45 | khangg | cool |
| 04:49.58 | Xinhuan | what is it |
| 04:50.35 | Korben | ok khangg will check it out |
| 04:53.57 | Orionshock | lua> select(1, "test1", "test2", "test3") |
| 04:53.57 | lua_bot | Orionshock: test1, test2, test3, |
| 04:54.01 | Orionshock | lol |
| 04:54.13 | buu | Xinhuan: Adding a Treasure route. |
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| 04:54.23 | Xinhuan | can't heh |
| 04:54.25 | buu | Why? |
| 04:54.30 | Xinhuan | only suppots herb/mine/fish |
| 04:54.49 | dylanm_ | He wants to change that. |
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| 04:58.56 | buu | Xinhuan: Er, why? |
| 04:59.03 | buu | The data looks exactly the same.. |
| 05:00.42 | Xinhuan | hmm, can ba added if its a simple change |
| 05:00.45 | Xinhuan | be* |
| 05:00.59 | Xinhuan | it was just initially coded to look for those 3 databases |
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| 05:27.50 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271183050&sid=1 |
| 05:32.04 | Xinhuan | !c us blackrock xinhuan |
| 05:32.23 | Xinhuan | zz |
| 05:32.29 | Korben | >_< bla visor2 wasent as eze as move anything :( |
| 05:34.24 | kenlyric | Diao: nicE! |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r56778 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARL-Engineer.lua ARL-LeatherWork.lua): |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-12 | - Engineering and leatherworking fixes |
| 05:36.34 | Diao | epic thread lol |
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| 05:37.29 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 05:37.31 | RaydenUni | that is awesome |
| 05:37.36 | RaydenUni | the thread |
| 05:38.37 | RaydenUni | how come there is no Troll Thread for use in tailoring? |
| 05:42.59 | Korben | anyone have any other suggestions for a replacment for moveanything |
| 05:43.57 | Ozguli- | bongos? |
| 05:44.19 | Korben | bongos dosent move all frames dose it ? |
| 05:44.27 | Ozguli- | well |
| 05:44.37 | Ozguli- | all but unitframes |
| 05:44.44 | Korben | hmm |
| 05:45.01 | Ozguli- | I'd use separate addon to configure them |
| 05:45.16 | Korben | hmm never saw that when i used bongos |
| 05:45.17 | RaydenUni | what's so nice about bongos? |
| 05:45.41 | Korben | i started to dislike it when it just got worst and worst |
| 05:45.50 | RaydenUni | someone said bongos> bartender |
| 05:45.59 | RaydenUni | i can't really think of anything about bartender that's wrong though |
| 05:46.12 | Korben | i use bartender now |
| 05:46.25 | Korben | as bongos had so much problems with switching stances |
| 05:46.26 | Korben | etc |
| 05:47.07 | Korben | now im just trying to find something that can move my tooltips and all thos frame for error text etc |
| 05:47.50 | Korben | with visor i need to know each name of the frame |
| 05:48.06 | Korben | in moveanything all frames where in gui and u just selected the right one |
| 05:48.32 | Diao | you can use grab |
| 05:48.36 | Diao | to autoselect the frame names |
| 05:48.52 | Diao | or ask what the frame names are if they're invisible |
| 05:49.09 | Korben | hmm well when i selected like my buffbuttons |
| 05:49.21 | Korben | it said buffbutton one or something then it dissapred |
| 05:50.01 | Korben | also Diao how do i make the mod to show how big area that fame have ? |
| 05:50.15 | Diao | virtual |
| 05:50.48 | Korben | let me try again |
| 05:52.28 | Korben | how do i ask for a hidden frame ? |
| 05:52.41 | Diao | uh |
| 05:52.49 | Diao | which frame are you looking for |
| 05:52.54 | Korben | tooltip |
| 05:53.00 | Korben | thats in the corner now |
| 05:54.16 | Korben | now the grab button is gone again lol |
| 05:54.32 | Diao | lol |
| 05:55.19 | Korben | ok fuck that |
| 05:55.24 | Korben | it just crashed my wow |
| 05:55.29 | Korben | with 132 error >_< |
| 05:55.43 | RaydenUni | so |
| 05:55.50 | Diao | o_O |
| 05:55.51 | RaydenUni | my guild starts doing KZ in 5 minutes |
| 05:55.56 | Diao | i've had no problems yet |
| 05:56.01 | RaydenUni | there are four lvl 70's on |
| 05:56.07 | Diao | sounds like a problem with my guild sometimes |
| 05:56.18 | Korben | diao |
| 05:56.22 | RaydenUni | the thing is it is now 1am my tim |
| 05:56.26 | Korben | :P i like simple things :P |
| 05:56.30 | RaydenUni | i have class at 8am tomorrow |
| 05:56.34 | Korben | 7am my :P |
| 05:56.34 | RaydenUni | so i just woke up from a nap |
| 05:59.32 | Xinhuan | any idea why the armory dosen't update my char? |
| 05:59.43 | Xinhuan | Last Updated: October 13, 2007 |
| 06:02.05 | Olison | with mine its the same |
| 06:07.38 | Diao | bugged? |
| 06:07.51 | Olison | must be |
| 06:20.01 | Xuerian | Korben: You might just want to ask for the names of the common ui elements |
| 06:20.30 | Xuerian | Korben: Then move them with visor |
| 06:22.28 | Xuerian | On a side note, is anyone noticing baggins/other itemtype sorting mods severely messing up it's classifications recently? Or should I just clear the profile and start over.... |
| 06:22.54 | Xinhuan | blizz reclassified a few thousand items in patch 2.3 |
| 06:23.15 | Xinhuan | and a few items are misclassified along with that |
| 06:23.45 | Ellipsis | "a few" |
| 06:35.49 | Xinhuan | Kemayo, ping |
| 06:36.34 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 06:36.38 | RaydenUni | we only started 35 minutes late |
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| 07:10.19 | omega_ | Xuerian: yeah, I had a bunch of Recipes showing up in my Catch all Tradeskill.Mats category |
| 07:10.21 | RaydenUni | one of our warriors got mc'd in kz so i dotted hi |
| 07:10.23 | RaydenUni | him |
| 07:10.36 | RaydenUni | healer was displeased |
| 07:11.10 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Aha |
| 07:11.23 | Xinhuan | Aha? |
| 07:11.35 | Xuerian | I didn't see your answer earlier |
| 07:12.26 | Diao | MC in kara? |
| 07:12.33 | Diao | what mobs do that o_O |
| 07:13.22 | Codayus | Maiden trash, possibly? |
| 07:13.35 | RaydenUni | some of the trash outside moroes |
| 07:13.41 | Codayus | Oh those! |
| 07:13.47 | Codayus | You don't need to kill them. |
| 07:14.02 | RaydenUni | to get to maiden you do |
| 07:14.03 | Codayus | We skip every one of the elite packs in front of Moroes and Maiden. Faster. |
| 07:14.09 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 07:14.51 | Codayus | If you mean the large groups of elites in the ballrooms...you can just ignore them. They don't block you getting to Moroes, Maiden, or Opera. |
| 07:15.35 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 07:15.39 | RaydenUni | pretty sure they aggro |
| 07:15.49 | Codayus | Up stairs, hug left into Moroes. Back out, hug right around to the stairs up, keep hugging right to Maidens hallways. Keep going to the Usher groups. |
| 07:15.52 | Xuerian | Up stairs to moroes, pull stragglers/non-elite groups, hug wall into moroes |
| 07:16.12 | Codayus | We haven't killed them in *months*. Elite ballroom trash is slow and annoying. |
| 07:16.14 | Xuerian | Go back out, hug other wall, keep pulling stragglers, through door |
| 07:16.52 | RaydenUni | we don't clear the room |
| 07:17.05 | RaydenUni | we just take out the groups that aggro or we think we will aggro |
| 07:17.14 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 07:17.22 | Codayus | No group of elites will aggro. |
| 07:17.42 | Codayus | Not even close; we've run a LOT of recruits through Kara...never body pulled. |
| 07:18.18 | RaydenUni | from moroes to maiden, the lower room |
| 07:18.23 | RaydenUni | you go left or right around it? |
| 07:18.28 | RaydenUni | if you go left there is a big gropu i think |
| 07:19.19 | Codayus | From zone in, up stairs, turn left, kill Moroes. Back out and along the same wall to get back to the top of the stairs. |
| 07:19.38 | Codayus | Now turn right, and circle around the room to the next stairs. |
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| 07:19.48 | NeoTron | so we went to Shahraz, lowest SR 321... and we one-shotted her |
| 07:19.52 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 07:19.55 | RaydenUni | will keep that in mind |
| 07:19.56 | Codayus | Up them...go steaight down the right side past Maiden's hallway. |
| 07:19.59 | RaydenUni | we're past it now |
| 07:20.03 | NeoTron | we didn't even one-shot supremus, but two shot |
| 07:20.13 | Codayus | Not a *huge* time savings, but it adds up. |
| 07:20.58 | RaydenUni | what's with the aggro for Skeletal Ushers? |
| 07:21.01 | RaydenUni | the ones before opera? |
| 07:21.11 | RaydenUni | i was third on the aggro list and it charged me |
| 07:33.17 | Diao | they're random |
| 07:33.20 | Diao | after ice tomb |
| 07:33.32 | Diao | they go for next on agro list |
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| 07:33.48 | Diao | sometimes they don't |
| 07:33.49 | Diao | not sure why |
| 07:37.41 | NightHawkTheSane | It's because the ice tomb isn't an agro suspension/reset, it's just a reduction. If the tank is far enough ahead, it may not shift agro at all |
| 07:37.54 | Diao | no i mean |
| 07:37.59 | Diao | sometimes it'll ice tomb me (tank) |
| 07:38.05 | Diao | and go for someone who is nowhere near the top of agro |
| 07:38.11 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, *shrug* |
| 07:38.27 | Diao | this one time |
| 07:38.31 | NightHawkTheSane | It wouldn't surprise me if it's random or semi-random targetting if the tank loses agro |
| 07:38.32 | Diao | i missed a shield slam |
| 07:38.37 | Diao | and it went after our pally healer |
| 07:38.49 | Diao | he healtanks it |
| 07:38.53 | Diao | it ice tombed him when he was at like 3% |
| 07:38.57 | Diao | turned away to whack someone else |
| 07:39.03 | Diao | then before attacking, it turns back and kills him |
| 07:39.07 | Diao | we were like "wtf just happened" |
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| 07:41.56 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28590 |
| 07:42.00 | RaydenUni | what is this for? |
| 07:42.11 | RaydenUni | comments indicate situational |
| 07:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a healing trinket, that's what it's "for" :P |
| 07:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | as to how useful it is, *shrug* like the comments say, the use effect is probably situational at best |
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| 07:52.42 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56779 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix an issue with frame anchors/positioning/size relating to layout-cache.txt that results in the X, Options and other buttons being shown near the minimap. |
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| 08:09.40 | NightHawkTheSane | "Landing thrusters, landing thrusters... If i were a landing thruster, which one of these would I be?" |
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| 08:13.54 | Crysli | Oi |
| 08:14.29 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56780 10GemHelper/ (GemHelper.lua GemHelper.xml): GemHelper: Fix an issue with frame anchors/positioning/size relating to layout-cache.txt that results in the X, Options and other buttons being shown near the minimap. |
| 08:14.56 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56781 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Fix an issue with frame anchors/positioning/size relating to layout-cache.txt that results in the X, Options and other buttons being shown near the minimap. |
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| 08:18.18 | Crysli | :( It's so quiet in here. |
| 08:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's 03:20 |
| 08:20.22 | hyperChipmunk | gtb! |
| 08:21.01 | NightHawkTheSane | its only 12:30 pst. :P |
| 08:21.05 | NightHawkTheSane | although still.. |
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| 08:24.06 | RaydenUni | curator grouping, heals stand near dps? |
| 08:25.10 | Diao | everyone stacks up |
| 08:25.12 | Diao | right behind curator |
| 08:25.13 | Xinhuan | just all stack on top |
| 08:25.20 | Diao | curator tanked facing away from raid |
| 08:25.21 | Xinhuan | chain heal from shaman will heal everyone to full |
| 08:25.34 | Xinhuan | since the sparks only chain to 3 ppl |
| 08:25.46 | Xinhuan | and so does chain heal |
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| 08:32.34 | RaydenUni | woot, downed curator |
| 08:34.03 | RaydenUni | how far from curator is chess? |
| 08:36.05 | Diao | uh |
| 08:36.13 | Diao | i'd say kill aran first so you don't have to deal with trash again |
| 08:36.35 | Diao | it depends how fast you kill trash |
| 08:37.19 | Xinhuan | about 1 hour of trash between curator/chess |
| 08:37.32 | Xinhuan | 40 min between curator/aran, and 20 min between aran/chess |
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| 08:37.52 | Xinhuan | trash between curator/aran is on 2 hour respawn, tied to aran |
| 08:37.56 | RaydenUni | well we don't have too much time |
| 08:38.03 | RaydenUni | less than 2 hours certainly |
| 08:38.06 | RaydenUni | so won't be doing shade |
| 08:38.06 | Xinhuan | trash between aran/chess is tied to netherspite, 1 hour respawn |
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| 08:40.15 | miro | i'm looking for a working converter for blp-files that doesn't produce a wrongly couloured mess |
| 08:40.30 | Xinhuan | good luck on that one |
| 08:40.37 | Xinhuan | try google |
| 08:40.47 | Xinhuan | there aren't many |
| 08:40.52 | Xinhuan | that works |
| 08:41.06 | Xinhuan | and most handlethe transparency part wrong afaik |
| 08:41.07 | miro | yea but i only get the not-working ones ;) |
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| 09:28.07 | Orionshock | help, i don't use recount but i'd like to know if there is a way to make it stop synching or to stop it while in combat |
| 09:29.06 | nevcairiel | stop recount in combat? isnt a addon like recount only working in combat? |
| 09:31.15 | Orionshock | it's a damage meters addon that synchs in combat, and it's totally unnecessary to do so in combat/ |
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| 09:35.41 | Lemming2K | use assessment, it doesn't sync |
| 09:35.55 | Lemming2K | but you lose those fancy graphs :P |
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| 09:36.55 | NeoTron | council are a bit harder than shahraz |
| 09:37.06 | NeoTron | which I still am amazed at that we one shotted her |
| 09:37.12 | NeoTron | I expected her to die but not on the first try |
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| 09:52.27 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 09:52.34 | RaydenUni | first time doing big bad wolf and curator and no wipes |
| 09:53.17 | Diao | grats! |
| 09:53.21 | Diao | how was chess |
| 09:53.25 | RaydenUni | also we didn't wipe on chess |
| 09:53.30 | RaydenUni | my whole guild was confused |
| 09:53.32 | Diao | lol |
| 09:53.38 | Diao | you can't wipe on chess o_O |
| 09:53.47 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 09:53.57 | nevcairiel | but you can fail on chess |
| 09:53.59 | nevcairiel | its been done |
| 09:54.04 | RaydenUni | what happens if you fail? |
| 09:54.10 | buu | The test is terminated. |
| 09:54.18 | RaydenUni | no free epics? |
| 09:54.25 | nevcairiel | obviously not |
| 09:54.34 | RaydenUni | too bad |
| 09:54.35 | nevcairiel | what would be the point of giving them out even if you fail ? :P |
| 09:54.58 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 09:55.01 | RaydenUni | start over? |
| 09:55.06 | RaydenUni | makes sense, just making sure |
| 09:55.22 | nevcairiel | we've never failed chess, ever. the guy playing your king just should know to step back when he falls below 20% or so :P |
| 09:56.10 | Xinhuan | or have a guy fulltime heal him |
| 09:56.11 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 09:56.50 | Diao | lol |
| 09:56.54 | Diao | oh my god |
| 09:57.00 | Diao | just fought the most awesome arena team ever |
| 09:57.10 | Diao | brocck (orc warr) and saamson (be pally) |
| 09:57.12 | RaydenUni | paly druid? |
| 09:57.13 | Diao | arena team name Venture Co Bros |
| 09:57.18 | Diao | that was epic |
| 09:57.26 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 09:57.34 | Diao | :( |
| 09:57.43 | RaydenUni | is this referencing something i don't get? |
| 09:57.46 | Diao | it's a show on cartoon network |
| 09:57.48 | Diao | venture brothers |
| 09:57.51 | Diao | adult swim |
| 09:57.59 | Silowyi | church pastors are bad |
| 09:58.31 | Silowyi | Description of Issue: An mp3 I uploaded to the website is no longer showing up. |
| 09:58.37 | RaydenUni | i really need to clear my combatlog before the raid |
| 09:58.42 | Silowyi | My response: Don't pirate music, you're a pastor. |
| 09:58.52 | RaydenUni | could be a podcast of a sermon |
| 09:58.56 | Silowyi | nah it wasn't |
| 09:59.04 | Silowyi | it was some christmas songs :P |
| 09:59.19 | Diao | lol |
| 09:59.20 | RaydenUni | i'm always amazed at how Christians somehow don't think it's wrong to pirate music |
| 09:59.40 | nevcairiel | is it? |
| 09:59.47 | RaydenUni | it's illegal isn't it? |
| 09:59.48 | Silowyi | tbh |
| 09:59.58 | Silowyi | ask the record lables... yes |
| 09:59.59 | Silowyi | ask the artists |
| 10:00.14 | Silowyi | and by and large Christian artists will say one thing, the more people that hear their message, the better. |
| 10:00.37 | RaydenUni | it just seems a little hypocritcal to copyright thieft christian music |
| 10:00.43 | RaydenUni | something doesn't match |
| 10:01.08 | Silowyi | There's also the fact that the largest Christian radio station is commercial free, and not-for-profit. |
| 10:01.19 | Silowyi | supported by listener donations. |
| 10:01.32 | RaydenUni | that doesn't really change anything |
| 10:01.51 | Diao | anyone under like |
| 10:02.01 | Silowyi | it does, it means their music liscenses are community owned. |
| 10:02.06 | Diao | 30 probably doesn't even think of downloading music as pirating it |
| 10:02.37 | Silowyi | as far as I'm concerned there's no difference in recording it off my HD FM radio and downloading it online. |
| 10:03.02 | Silowyi | but |
| 10:03.16 | Silowyi | I usually feel guilty later and end up buying the CDs :P |
| 10:03.17 | Diao | wasn't there a court ruling that basically said it's legal to download music as long as it's for private use recently |
| 10:03.34 | Silowyi | Diao: Probably in some country, somewhere. |
| 10:03.59 | Silowyi | Diao: In the U.S. downloading it is perfectly legal though... actually. It's sharing it with other people that isn't. |
| 10:04.12 | nevcairiel | most authoritys will only persue people that try to sell pirated copies |
| 10:04.18 | Diao | yea |
| 10:04.21 | Diao | they go after distributors |
| 10:04.22 | nevcairiel | well except in US, they persue the normal kazaa users |
| 10:04.33 | Silowyi | The RIAA will eventually get around to suing all of us you know. |
| 10:05.03 | nevcairiel | all of you that live in US :P |
| 10:05.09 | Silowyi | it will only take them a few more eons to file against all of us. |
| 10:05.30 | Silowyi | My real name is in the A's so they might get to me in my 70s |
| 10:05.38 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:05.54 | Silowyi | tbh though I haven't pirated any music in a long time, I stopped doing that when I got a job that could pay for me to buy the CDs. |
| 10:06.10 | Silowyi | moral reasons, and also, mp3 quality is not that great, you lose a lot of the subsonics. |
| 10:06.30 | nevcairiel | only thing i download is tv shows that dont air here |
| 10:06.47 | Silowyi | nevcairiel: and subtitled japanese anime that hasn't been liscensed? ^_^ |
| 10:06.54 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 10:07.08 | nevcairiel | only US tv shows, normal tv :P |
| 10:07.09 | Arrowmaster | i download tv shows that air here because i cant be asked to actually watch them when they air |
| 10:07.17 | nevcairiel | well or that |
| 10:07.28 | nevcairiel | but i prefer them on english anyway |
| 10:07.31 | nevcairiel | and the german tv sucks |
| 10:08.16 | Silowyi | I don't watch TV |
| 10:08.47 | Diao | i watch unsubbed anime lol |
| 10:08.49 | Arrowmaster | i watch 5 tv shows per week |
| 10:08.53 | Diao | good way to practice |
| 10:09.01 | Silowyi | between World of Warcraft, work, and actively trying to have a social life, my TV experience is pretty much limited to sports games in restaurants. |
| 10:09.36 | Arrowmaster | but like i said i download those 5 shows so i can watch them whenever i want |
| 10:09.38 | Silowyi | it would be cool to know Japanese, granted, but its not worth it. |
| 10:09.53 | Diao | lol |
| 10:09.55 | RaydenUni | subtitles are fine |
| 10:10.09 | Silowyi | nerf dubs? |
| 10:10.12 | Diao | i enjoy learning languages |
| 10:10.20 | Diao | so i watch everything unsubbed/dubbed if i can |
| 10:10.22 | Diao | to try and pick things up |
| 10:10.24 | RaydenUni | dub generally fails |
| 10:10.29 | Silowyi | I once knew English, Spanish and some Arabic |
| 10:10.41 | Silowyi | though I never really got the written spanish down |
| 10:10.44 | Arrowmaster | i lost count of how many animes im watching this season, it didnt start out that large because i was thinking it was going to be a shitty season but i ended up finding a bunch i liked |
| 10:10.49 | Silowyi | that was... 11 years ago? |
| 10:11.05 | Diao | lol |
| 10:11.18 | Silowyi | Arabic is fun |
| 10:11.32 | Silowyi | it's somewhat impossible to write it in IRC though. |
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| 10:11.43 | Diao | utf-8 encoding! |
| 10:12.08 | Silowyi | yay it's monday |
| 10:12.13 | Silowyi | webcomic updates should be out |
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| 10:31.59 | Wobin | sigh =( |
| 10:32.04 | Wobin | clearly ghostwolves are not for australians |
| 10:32.22 | Diao | o_o |
| 10:33.03 | Ellipsis | get someone with a real connection to do it for you :P |
| 10:33.06 | Wobin | We had it perfect =( |
| 10:33.14 | Wobin | MC/Heroism/Gem/Drums |
| 10:34.32 | Kalroth | lol |
| 10:34.57 | Lukian | Wobin, haha I was thinking that myself :( |
| 10:35.09 | Lukian | How many attempts did you have? |
| 10:35.12 | Wobin | 4 |
| 10:35.17 | Lukian | ouch |
| 10:35.20 | Wobin | we gave up after a perfect combination |
| 10:35.46 | Lukian | ~400 latency? |
| 10:35.51 | Kalroth | What are you trying to beat? |
| 10:35.53 | Wobin | 350ish |
| 10:35.59 | Wobin | a 7.5 second lifespan =P |
| 10:36.35 | Kalroth | nono, I mean ghostwolves? :) |
| 10:36.49 | Wobin | what do you mean? |
| 10:36.53 | Wobin | oh |
| 10:36.58 | Wobin | hm, lemme find you a link |
| 10:37.04 | Lukian | Kalroth is probably unaware :p |
| 10:37.17 | Kalroth | I am, but I'm curious now :) |
| 10:37.26 | Wobin | coolest pet ever =( |
| 10:37.29 | Wobin | http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/20/patch-23-ghost-wolf/ |
| 10:37.34 | Lukian | Kalroth, summary: Tame Beast is a 20 sec cast, ghost wolves are 7.5sec lifespan. add spell haste = tameable |
| 10:37.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:38.11 | Orionshock | HealBot is hosted here on WoWAce right? |
| 10:38.59 | Kalroth | Oooh, sexy |
| 10:40.26 | Kalroth | I guess it's not doable unless you're a troll |
| 10:44.36 | Wobin | no, it's possible |
| 10:44.41 | Wobin | you just need good latency |
| 10:45.15 | Wobin | I was, perhaps, half a second off |
| 10:45.31 | Wobin | due to latency and gcd and such |
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| 10:55.07 | Codayus | Heroism helps. |
| 10:55.30 | Codayus | Drums of battle help. |
| 10:55.43 | Codayus | And the metagem with a spell haste proc is almost required. |
| 10:55.43 | Kalroth | I don't believe it stacks |
| 10:55.50 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 10:55.51 | Kalroth | with the metagem |
| 10:56.08 | nevcairiel | otherwise you wont get your 20s cast down to 7.5 |
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| 10:56.21 | Codayus | It does... |
| 10:58.06 | Codayus | In fact, it doesn't just stack, the meta gem takes priority... It drops tame beast to 10s. |
| 10:58.16 | Codayus | Then all other haste effects apply to that. |
| 10:58.52 | Kalroth | The metagem puts it down to 10 seconds. Heroism down to 7 seconds. Drums of battle down to 6.5 seconds. If they stack, why do people have problems with 7.5 seconds? |
| 10:59.30 | FinalX | and berserking if you're a troll :o |
| 10:59.31 | Codayus | Actually, what I said doesn't make sense, I don't think, since it'd be multiplicative either way... |
| 10:59.44 | Codayus | It does work. |
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| 10:59.55 | Orionshock | does [Adamantite Weightstone] translate for druids in form? |
| 11:00.13 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 11:00.26 | Orionshock | static affects |
| 11:00.42 | FinalX | weightstones/sharpening stones do jack shit for druids |
| 11:00.56 | FinalX | weapon damage doesnt mean anything to a druid |
| 11:00.57 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:01.05 | FinalX | or wha :o |
| 11:01.14 | Codayus | 20s / (2 * 1.3 * 1.05) = 7.3s with heroism, meta, and drums. |
| 11:01.36 | Codayus | AFAIK |
| 11:02.05 | FinalX | Orionshock: altho the crit rating might tho |
| 11:02.05 | nevcairiel | the weightstone effect only works when being used by that specific weapon, and since in feral forms you dont actually use that weapon |
| 11:02.11 | nevcairiel | save yourself the stones |
| 11:02.27 | nevcairiel | it doesnt add "global crit" |
| 11:02.34 | nevcairiel | only crit for that weapon |
| 11:02.34 | Codayus | They live for 7.5s, so you have to start tame beast within 0.2s of them spawning, AND have all buffs active. That's...hard, if you lag much. :-) |
| 11:03.17 | Codayus | Counterweights do work, by the way. Very very OP at low levels. |
| 11:03.44 | Arrowmaster | counterweights work for druids? wtf |
| 11:04.06 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 11:04.14 | FinalX | if counterweights work, so should the crit rating :o |
| 11:04.24 | Arrowmaster | counterweight is perment |
| 11:04.27 | Codayus | So do the haste librams, and it's SCARY how much haste the rating translates into at low levels. |
| 11:04.37 | nevcairiel | counterweights are different |
| 11:04.44 | nevcairiel | its a weapon enchant thats add global 20 haste rating |
| 11:04.46 | nevcairiel | very op :) |
| 11:04.52 | FinalX | ah, like that |
| 11:04.54 | Arrowmaster | wait |
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| 11:05.04 | Arrowmaster | its just plain global haste now? |
| 11:05.15 | Arrowmaster | so does it effect ranged weapons too? |
| 11:05.18 | Codayus | Melee haste |
| 11:05.23 | nevcairiel | yeah melee haste |
| 11:05.24 | Codayus | Not ranged. So says Wowhead, at least. |
| 11:05.25 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 11:05.39 | nevcairiel | 20 haste rating at .. lvl 20? |
| 11:05.40 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 11:05.44 | nevcairiel | pretty op prolly :P |
| 11:05.56 | Arrowmaster | whats the lowest you can put it on? |
| 11:06.01 | Arrowmaster | and the librams |
| 11:06.04 | Codayus | It's 14.18% melee haste at lvl 19 |
| 11:06.16 | nevcairiel | iron counterweight has no level restriction |
| 11:06.22 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 11:06.36 | Codayus | 6.67*(level-8)/52) = %haste |
| 11:07.15 | Arrowmaster | we had a level 1 or 2 dueling 60s or 70s on our server once, cant remember if it was after 2.0 but before tbc release or not |
| 11:07.31 | Arrowmaster | had so much dodge from the librams and other stuff that he was unhitable |
| 11:08.07 | Diao | there was a level 10 rogue |
| 11:08.13 | Diao | who made a video of himself soloing deadmines |
| 11:08.15 | Codayus | 2 librams + counterweight = 40 rating = ~28.5% haste. And, isn't there a glove enchant? |
| 11:08.21 | Diao | because he had like 108% dodge |
| 11:08.27 | Diao | and nothing could hit him |
| 11:08.51 | Codayus | Ah, 10 more haste rating to gloves. |
| 11:10.15 | Orionshock | there any tricks to Gruul himself? |
| 11:10.25 | Codayus | Orionshock: Tricks? |
| 11:10.31 | kebinusan | does ctbarmod just use the bliz default bars? |
| 11:10.34 | Orionshock | dieas |
| 11:10.44 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.49 | nevcairiel | teach the people to spread |
| 11:10.51 | nevcairiel | thats about all |
| 11:12.04 | Orionshock | u think marking the healers would help any? |
| 11:12.23 | Codayus | Not really. What's the issue? |
| 11:12.29 | nevcairiel | we did that in our first trys, but that was before any nerfs |
| 11:12.30 | Orionshock | spreading |
| 11:12.52 | Orionshock | we get to about 12 grows and he 1 shots the tank after a shatter |
| 11:13.05 | Orionshock | or we get to many healers close to others |
| 11:13.05 | Codayus | Well, a couple things to try... |
| 11:13.09 | Codayus | 1) Get more DPS |
| 11:13.18 | Codayus | 2) Make sure the tank is chain drinking Ironshield pots |
| 11:13.27 | kebinusan | keep hots on him |
| 11:13.29 | Codayus | 3) Make sure all healers are alive... |
| 11:13.33 | Xinhuan | 1) 6 healers is enough for gruul |
| 11:13.43 | Xinhuan | 2) don't need ironshield pots until gruul is < 30% |
| 11:13.52 | Xinhuan | 3) make sure everyone is alive ;p |
| 11:14.01 | Codayus | 4) Shield the tank. Keep HoTs up. Organize a lay on hands rotation if your nuts. Make sure healers are paying attention. |
| 11:14.12 | Diao | how is he 1 shotting tanks |
| 11:14.22 | Ellipsis | does your tank have like 8k health |
| 11:14.24 | Codayus | I wouldn't say 30%, so much as find out what growth lets him 1 shot a tank, and use them once he hits that. |
| 11:14.36 | Orionshock | Diao: bad luck usualy |
| 11:14.43 | Diao | that's a pretty bad situation |
| 11:14.57 | Codayus | He will 1 shot *ANY* tank if you let him grow enough...12 growths is getting dangerous. Are you SURE it's a 1 shot? A fast 2 shot is more common. |
| 11:15.07 | Codayus | Make sure nobody is getting parried other than the tank. :-) |
| 11:15.10 | tig | consider putting healers into the "safe spots" so they dont need to run after ground-slam |
| 11:15.15 | Orionshock | well we did HKM in ~8 hrs time when it normal takes 2x as long |
| 11:15.21 | Orionshock | so we're kinda crazy :D |
| 11:15.23 | Diao | i can survive a 15th growth |
| 11:15.25 | Diao | on my warr o_o |
| 11:15.31 | Diao | granted it takes a last stand but still :P |
| 11:15.56 | Arrowmaster | huh what? 16 hours for hkm is normal???? |
| 11:16.08 | Diao | o_O |
| 11:16.20 | Diao | we spent 3 hours learning HKM pull before killing him |
| 11:16.35 | Codayus | *nod* 1 shot at 12 growths sounds odd. Parries/crushing/bad luck with rocks falling...can be tough. |
| 11:16.37 | kebinusan | Actually better to have a druid tank him since a parry resets his swing timer.. same thing make sure people not the tank are attacking him from behind |
| 11:16.46 | Diao | how would having a druid make it better |
| 11:16.52 | Orionshock | ... was told that it takes bout a month , at about 2nights a week for 2hrs or so... |
| 11:17.02 | kebinusan | higher armor |
| 11:17.04 | Codayus | Orionshock: Too guild dependent. |
| 11:17.10 | kebinusan | better mitigation |
| 11:17.15 | Diao | uhh |
| 11:17.20 | Diao | higher armor maybe |
| 11:17.20 | kebinusan | I guess you dont get shieldwall, but eh we always had a druid do it |
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| 11:17.45 | Orionshock | Codayus: ? |
| 11:17.46 | Arrowmaster | i think our first kill was with a druid tank but not intentional |
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| 11:18.06 | Codayus | Orionshock: Some guilds spend ~2 hours wiping to HKM before the pull. Some spend weeks. |
| 11:18.08 | kebinusan | if the problem is the tank getting 1 shot, druids with more hp and higher AC so less per hit makes sense |
| 11:18.16 | kebinusan | least in my experience |
| 11:18.17 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 11:18.17 | Codayus | er, before the first kill |
| 11:18.30 | Diao | warriors should know how to use their abilities for gruul |
| 11:18.33 | Arrowmaster | since a warrior has better chances of not getting hit at all |
| 11:18.37 | Codayus | Druid = more crush = maybe not so good. |
| 11:18.44 | Diao | last stand at like growth 11-12 |
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| 11:18.47 | Diao | shield wall past that |
| 11:18.59 | kebinusan | druid can use bearwall every 2 mins, badge of tenacity+moroes pocketwatch, vs shieldwall on a 30 min cd |
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| 11:19.10 | Codayus | Make sure 100% of the raid has, at LEAST, gruul flasks |
| 11:19.20 | Arrowmaster | lol bearwall |
| 11:19.23 | Diao | pocketwatch can be used with warrior as well ;) |
| 11:19.44 | Codayus | I think we've had a warrior tank 90% of our gruul kills. Druids make better OTs, IMHO. |
| 11:20.02 | Codayus | For that fight. Better threat while rage starved, and the HP pool is very useful. |
| 11:20.07 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:20.11 | Diao | i've OTed as warrior |
| 11:20.13 | Diao | it's honestly pretty easy |
| 11:20.17 | Diao | you just berserker rage every 30s |
| 11:20.26 | Diao | and stand in cave-ins |
| 11:20.30 | Diao | free rage :) |
| 11:20.47 | Codayus | Really though, if your having tank issues, and your tanks aren't retarded... |
| 11:20.53 | Codayus | ...the big thing I'd look at is higher DPS. |
| 11:21.00 | Arrowmaster | or their gear sucks |
| 11:21.04 | Codayus | Every growth you avoid makes everything easier. |
| 11:21.08 | Codayus | That too! :-) |
| 11:21.16 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:21.49 | Orionshock | well tbh we're kinda just winging it atm in Gruul's lair |
| 11:21.59 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 11:22.28 | Orionshock | we have our main team on farm status in kara, teams 2 & 3 O.O are just passing curator & illhoof/shade |
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| 11:23.15 | Codayus | For your first kill... gruul flasks on EVERYONE, tanks should probably have flask of fort. Ironshield on tanks if needed. Everyone should be using oils, food, etc. Class mix needs to be solid. *shrug* Standard stuff, but it helps. |
| 11:24.17 | Xinhuan | also, use shield wall at 15%, it will run out at about 5% or so, but even if your tank dies then, you can still zerg him down |
| 11:24.19 | kebinusan | bleh I hate that bar mods dont swap the pet bar for things like gorefiend but the default ui does |
| 11:24.23 | Codayus | Armory every player, double check gem choices, enchants, gear. |
| 11:24.32 | Codayus | Log in, run it through WWS, check skill usage. |
| 11:24.56 | Orionshock | 2 prot warriros, 1 feral (OT Druid- ME), 1 boomkin druid, 1 resto druid, 3 holy pallys, 2 priests, 3 locks, 4 rogues, 2 shammys, 4 huntards |
| 11:24.57 | kebinusan | replace people who shatter others |
| 11:25.01 | Codayus | Are your rogues using optimum energy cycles? Are people showing up in pvp specs? Are your mages and locks running vaguely plausible amounts of spell hit? |
| 11:25.21 | Codayus | Note everyone who dies. If anyone dies more than 50% of your tries, talk to them, of that fails, don't bring them. |
| 11:25.39 | Orionshock | can't we don't have enough to not bring them |
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| 11:26.05 | Codayus | Gruul is hard because you need to have enough tanks for HKM... 2 prot warriors and a feral isn't needed... |
| 11:26.21 | Diao | ? |
| 11:26.25 | Diao | HKM can be done with 1 prot warr |
| 11:26.44 | Diao | 2 locks on lock, 2 hunters or 1 boomkin on shaman, dps warr on priest |
| 11:27.01 | Codayus | Diao: Okay, true. Except we've had complete and TOTAL failure at any attempt to tank the lock with warlocks |
| 11:27.06 | Diao | oh |
| 11:27.08 | Diao | bad locks lol |
| 11:27.11 | Codayus | I forgot. |
| 11:27.17 | Diao | :P |
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| 11:27.28 | Diao | our locks are very quick on enslave/banish |
| 11:27.32 | Diao | so we've always done it with them |
| 11:27.46 | Codayus | I dunno, bad locks? Bad strat... We stopped even trying months ago, we just routinely bring 3 tanks to HKM. Now that we're geared, not an issue, any feral or DPS warrior is okay for the lock. |
| 11:27.54 | Diao | ah |
| 11:28.09 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56785 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: Some code reordering, no functionality changes. |
| 11:28.12 | Diao | we've never had an issue with just using 2 locks and occasionally dps warr |
| 11:28.13 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: you had some ideas for durabilityfu, or am I confused? |
| 11:28.39 | Xinhuan | yeah i suggested doing updates delay by 1 frame |
| 11:28.51 | Codayus | Orionshock: Make sure group setup is good, with optimum usage of shamans for windfury, etc. |
| 11:28.58 | Xinhuan | since inventory_alerts can fire multiple times |
| 11:28.59 | Xinhuan | in one fram |
| 11:29.01 | Xinhuan | frame |
| 11:29.03 | Codayus | Also, no shadow priests? |
| 11:29.07 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: right |
| 11:29.19 | [Ammo] | bucketevents ftw |
| 11:29.56 | Xinhuan | either make a new frame, and set a onupdate script on inventory_alerts, and run the update next frame and nil itself, or use bucket events - but don't run it multiple times |
| 11:30.25 | [Ammo] | bucket events don't run multiple times by definition |
| 11:30.27 | [Ammo] | that's what they are for |
| 11:30.36 | [Ammo] | and I'm sure durafu already uses em |
| 11:31.05 | Xinhuan | i thought bucket events pass a table, containing entries one per event fired? |
| 11:31.20 | [Ammo] | yes, so? |
| 11:31.28 | [Ammo] | contain entries and number of fires |
| 11:31.52 | [Ammo] | so if UNIT_HEALTH fires 10x for player and 3x for target you get { ["player"] = 10, ["target"] = 3 } |
| 11:31.54 | Xinhuan | so depending on how the event is coded, the code could still run once per table entry, or just once, i don't know :) |
| 11:31.57 | [Ammo] | but you don't have to do anything with the table |
| 11:32.05 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 11:32.07 | kebinusan | Hm, so the possession bar thing apparently works with ctbarmod but not with bt3.. |
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| 11:32.12 | [Ammo] | read up on how bucket events work xinhuan |
| 11:32.30 | Xinhuan | i know how they work |
| 11:32.31 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: in bt3 you just get the pet ability bar which is fine |
| 11:32.34 | [Ammo] | no you don't |
| 11:32.43 | [Ammo] | you just said so |
| 11:32.51 | Xinhuan | but i've seen ppl run the same code per table entry as though it isn't bucketted |
| 11:32.57 | Xinhuan | which defeats the purpose |
| 11:33.08 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't defeat the purpose |
| 11:33.15 | [Ammo] | read what I typed about the times firing |
| 11:33.24 | Orionshock | 13 growths @ 16% |
| 11:33.24 | [Ammo] | UNIT_HEALTH fired 13 times in my example |
| 11:33.26 | kebinusan | [Ammo]: its not exactly fine because when the possession thing occurs it uses your main bar hotkeys instead of whatever your petbar hotkeys are |
| 11:33.42 | [Ammo] | one event is generated, and potentially 2 updates are ran if the person cares about the unit |
| 11:33.59 | Xinhuan | the arg1s for all 13 events get passed in the table right? |
| 11:34.02 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: it worked fine on teron ghost |
| 11:34.06 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: read up |
| 11:34.10 | [Ammo] | the answer is there |
| 11:34.37 | Orionshock | Codayus: he respeced holy b/c we needed the healers more |
| 11:36.02 | kebinusan | doesnt work for me, with a steam tonk or as a ghost, the pet bar is not remapped to your main action bar |
| 11:36.15 | [Ammo] | ofcourse it's not |
| 11:36.17 | [Ammo] | just use the pet bar |
| 11:37.24 | Codayus | Orionshock: Ah. Hm |
| 11:38.09 | Codayus | Which classes top your damage meters? |
| 11:38.31 | Orionshock | we've got a hunter ahead of a lock for fight damage |
| 11:38.40 | kebinusan | Ammo, I get that there is a pet bar, but there is functionality in the default ui now that swaps the pet bar to your main bar for possessions..from what a guildmate is telling me their ctbarmod bars do it as well, which is why I was curious as to why bt3 does not |
| 11:38.49 | Lukian | Kemayo, Iceroth: ping! |
| 11:38.57 | Codayus | Sounds about right. Hunters should be topping meters at your gear level. |
| 11:39.02 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: it doesn't shrug |
| 11:39.22 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: I dunno why, but I am much too used to the way it was |
| 11:39.31 | Orionshock | Fight Damage Dealt: 2.85m 1. Hunter, 305k, 10% ; 2. Lock, 242k, 8%; 3. Hunter, 193k, 6% <-- ? |
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| 11:40.18 | Codayus | Get more hunters like your #1 hunter, IMHO. :-) |
| 11:40.24 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:40.36 | Diao | wow wtf |
| 11:40.43 | Diao | your hunter outdpsed your lock on a mobility fight? |
| 11:40.48 | Orionshock | meh |
| 11:40.52 | Diao | your locks need to l2p |
| 11:40.53 | Diao | lol |
| 11:41.03 | Codayus | Diao: Normal at T4ish gear levels, in my experience. |
| 11:41.08 | Diao | our top on gruul is always locks and spri |
| 11:41.10 | Orionshock | he's a grate lock, prolly diying |
| 11:41.38 | Diao | and that's just kara gear/FSW for locks |
| 11:41.48 | Orionshock | in overall dmg, our hunter is at 1.25m while the same lock is at 1.22m |
| 11:41.48 | Codayus | Spriests? Never seen it. |
| 11:42.05 | Codayus | Kara geared spriest with full tailoring can't touch a good BM hunter at the same gear level... |
| 11:42.28 | Codayus | Maybe...200 DPS less? |
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| 11:47.14 | Diao | o_o |
| 11:47.19 | Diao | not in a fight like gruul where you're constantly moving |
| 11:49.02 | Codayus | *shrug* Gruul isn't that much of a movement fight. And priests only have 1 instacast dot; everything else has a casting time. And hunters do very well with mobile fights... |
| 11:54.35 | JoshBorke | gruul doesn't require a lot of movement |
| 11:54.47 | JoshBorke | and not enough to really screw up your dps |
| 11:55.19 | Diao | i dunno |
| 11:55.27 | Orionshock | 18 Growths and 1% |
| 11:55.30 | Diao | our locks and shadowpriests are always top by quite a bit |
| 11:55.39 | Tem|awake | MoonWolf, ping? |
| 11:55.43 | JoshBorke | i was #2 on damage done last night with 870 ish dps |
| 11:55.48 | Codayus | Diao: I'm inclined to suggest your hunters must suck? |
| 11:55.52 | Orionshock | OMFG |
| 11:56.05 | JoshBorke | i can't beat a hunter in my guild |
| 11:56.06 | Orionshock | 18 Growths and we still killed Gruul |
| 11:56.14 | JoshBorke | who isn't as geared as a i am |
| 11:56.18 | JoshBorke | he kicks my ass every time |
| 11:56.23 | Codayus | At T4 gear levels, a hunter should be able to do 800 DPS, climbing rapidy to over 1k on good fights as you hit mid range T5 gear. |
| 11:57.03 | chexsum | pft my priest does 750dps with 950 dmg |
| 11:57.29 | chexsum | and returns 5% of that as mana ;) |
| 11:57.35 | Codayus | Spriests...might be more in the 400-800 range, depending heavily on the fight. Breaking 800 dps on anything other than a gimmic fight like Curator would be hard, in my experience. |
| 11:57.44 | Tem|awake | MoonWolf, unping |
| 11:58.07 | chexsum | im meanging on gruuls |
| 11:58.15 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 11:58.20 | JoshBorke | Codayus: depends on the +damage |
| 11:58.26 | Codayus | Gruuls is a pretty good DPS check fight. |
| 11:58.35 | chexsum | ive got insane +hit also |
| 11:59.09 | Codayus | I'm hit capped, and have around 1200 +dmg buffed. I'm also in NZ, and a ~500ms ping makes everything...trickier. |
| 11:59.12 | Codayus | :-/ |
| 11:59.40 | chexsum | i think im .5 over the cap |
| 11:59.50 | chexsum | i went silly on +8 hit gems :( |
| 12:00.07 | chexsum | other priests with my gear stack dmg but dont dps like me |
| 12:00.15 | Codayus | *shrug* |
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| 12:00.57 | chexsum | weve got a rogue that does 1kdps on average |
| 12:01.02 | Codayus | Last Nalorakk kill I did 846 dps. |
| 12:01.18 | Codayus | A mage did 1098, a survival hunter did 886. |
| 12:01.42 | Codayus | All of us have hmm...mid T5 geared. |
| 12:01.57 | Diao | o_O |
| 12:02.01 | Diao | our shadow priests pull like 800+ dps |
| 12:02.02 | chexsum | i havent even seen ssc lol |
| 12:02.09 | Diao | in FSW/kara gear |
| 12:02.18 | Diao | they all have like 1100 shadow damage |
| 12:02.30 | chexsum | yea thats what ive got |
| 12:02.48 | chexsum | i went hit instead of dmg so lost about 100 dmg |
| 12:02.56 | Diao | don't you only need like |
| 12:02.59 | Diao | 72 spellhit |
| 12:03.03 | Diao | or 76 |
| 12:03.04 | chexsum | even went for the fsw bonuses |
| 12:03.05 | Diao | i forget exactly |
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| 12:03.10 | Codayus | Depending on talents, yes. |
| 12:03.30 | Codayus | I just stacked pure +dmg, nothing but runed gems. I'm way WAY over hit cap... *shrug* |
| 12:03.37 | chexsum | yeah but sometimes i spec shadow for pvp and dont max shadow focus or whatever it is |
| 12:03.41 | FinalX | Only for fights with mobs which are level 71-73 (bosses). |
| 12:03.44 | Diao | oh |
| 12:03.47 | Diao | i always respec for pve |
| 12:03.49 | Diao | always always |
| 12:03.49 | Diao | lol |
| 12:03.55 | FinalX | I have the offhand from Netherspite with +21 spell hit rating for boss fights. |
| 12:04.03 | Diao | coming to a raid with pvp spec is no good unless it's like kara |
| 12:04.07 | FinalX | For the rest I use the Orb of the Souleater, with +51 Shadow |
| 12:04.11 | Diao | which we consider not to be a "real" raid ;p |
| 12:04.29 | FinalX | Got ~1490 +Shadow now with all self-buffs proccing, without anyone else's buffs. |
| 12:04.59 | FinalX | Kara/badge gear with a lot of +9 spelldmg gems :P |
| 12:05.05 | FinalX | And tailoring sets |
| 12:05.14 | Diao | o_O |
| 12:05.24 | Codayus | *nod* I'm right at that if you count crusade and trinket procs.... |
| 12:05.36 | Diao | oh procs |
| 12:05.43 | FinalX | +92 spelldmg from spellstrike proc, crusade trinket (+80 spelldmg), icon of silver crescent (+155 spelldmg).. |
| 12:05.55 | chexsum | the weird thing about my gear is ive got just as much holy dmg when i change gear |
| 12:06.09 | Diao | iirc a shadow priest at 1500 +dmg unbuffed or something is able to use every ability on cd and never run out of mana |
| 12:06.11 | chexsum | 950 holy vs 950 shadow (fsw even) |
| 12:06.16 | Diao | i don't remember the exact number |
| 12:06.19 | FinalX | it's funny though, with wrath of air totem, improved divine spirit etc i get really really high :P |
| 12:06.55 | FinalX | plus i'm getting a new dagger today, currently still stuck with the runesong dagger (+121 spelldmg, with +40 spelldmg enchant) |
| 12:07.01 | Codayus | But yeah, breaking 800 dps - REAL dps, properly logged and parsed - is tricky. Breaking 1k...isn't going to happen at midT5 levels. BM hunters can... |
| 12:07.13 | Codayus | FinalX: Get the mace off ZA Eagle boss, it's delicious. |
| 12:07.16 | FinalX | got enough honor for the +199 spelldmg one and got mats for soulfrost.. so that'd up it by another +92 |
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| 12:07.21 | FinalX | yeah but we're not raiding za yet :| |
| 12:07.25 | Codayus | Oooh. :-( |
| 12:07.27 | FinalX | might do soon tho |
| 12:07.35 | Codayus | Eagle is pretty easy, honest. Good fun. |
| 12:07.40 | chexsum | on a single boss fight i can do 750dps average |
| 12:07.41 | FinalX | we're doing prince again tonight, so waiting for that kill to see if my dagger drops |
| 12:07.51 | FinalX | if it drops, its mine, if not, im buying the gladiator's spellblade |
| 12:07.51 | chexsum | ive done it many times |
| 12:08.17 | Codayus | Heh, farmed prince for, literally, months. |
| 12:08.18 | Codayus | No dagger |
| 12:08.20 | Diao | why not save for the s2 dagger |
| 12:08.30 | chexsum | i never miss a imp shadow bolt moment and never drop a dot or put one up too early :P |
| 12:08.32 | FinalX | armory seems to fuck up a lot, but, http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Steamwheedle+Cartel&n=Yemenya |
| 12:08.38 | Codayus | Gave up. Got the mace off Eagle. Did an alt Kara casual run...zomg the dagger. |
| 12:08.42 | FinalX | Codayus: dagger dropped for us once... |
| 12:08.56 | FinalX | Codayus: but guess what :P I was there on my Holy priest at that time :( Got her t4 helm tho :| |
| 12:09.00 | chexsum | 2 of our tanks got that malchazeen |
| 12:09.05 | FinalX | Codayus: ...2 days after I bought Whitemend Hood :| |
| 12:09.06 | Codayus | Oh yeah, it drops in OTHER raids. Half the holy priests in guild have it now... |
| 12:09.09 | chexsum | my rogue alt wasnt happy |
| 12:09.16 | Codayus | Meh, Whitemend >>> T4 |
| 12:09.29 | Codayus | Although, I grant you, it's expensive. |
| 12:09.41 | FinalX | Yeah, but if I had T4 dropping before getting Whitemend, I wouldn't have bought Whitemend. |
| 12:09.46 | chexsum | its got crap stamina |
| 12:09.46 | Codayus | Yep |
| 12:09.49 | FinalX | Or at least sold the mats :P |
| 12:09.55 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 12:09.58 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 6771 HP; 7665 Mana; 155 mana regen; 60 mp5; 111 spell crit; 86 spell hit; 936 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (1115); 230 shadow dmg (1166); 4.82% dodge; 25 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1618 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Mon Dec 10 07:11:24 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:10.00 | Diao | whitemend is great for healing.. as long as you don't expect to take damage |
| 12:10.00 | FinalX | brb, going for lunch |
| 12:10.03 | Codayus | Heh, I was holy before respeccing to shadow for the guild...short shadow priests. |
| 12:10.14 | Codayus | I have full whitemend, spellstrike, PMC, and FSW...on one character. |
| 12:10.20 | FinalX | my holy priest (less used): http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Steamwheedle+Cartel&n=Raquel |
| 12:10.24 | FinalX | brb. |
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| 12:11.44 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Lazare |
| 12:11.47 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Lazare, Level 70 Human Priest (14/0/47). 7101 HP; 7425 Mana; 145 mana regen; 50 mp5; 79 spell crit; 121 spell hit; 845 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1078); 335 shadow dmg (1180); 4.98% dodge; 17 resilience;[[ TBR: 952 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hymte ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mbp5k ][ Updated: Mon Dec 10 07:13:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:11.59 | Codayus | 121 spell hit = lawl, fail |
| 12:12.11 | chexsum | ~30 kara clears and my priest has no rittsyns lost pendant |
| 12:12.22 | chexsum | lost2 rolls for it |
| 12:13.01 | Codayus | I got mine about a week ago. I couldn't count the number of clears, just say I'm the guilds primary raid leader... So...I've hit Kara most of the resets since TBC launch. :-/ |
| 12:13.02 | chexsum | 1 of the locks sharded his char a few months ago also |
| 12:13.11 | Orionshock | Codayus: we kicked his ass |
| 12:13.25 | Orionshock | 18 growths, only 4 people standing @ 2% |
| 12:13.29 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:13.32 | Diao | lol |
| 12:13.34 | Codayus | The first time is always hardest. :-) |
| 12:13.36 | Diao | grats |
| 12:13.37 | Orionshock | & Undergeared |
| 12:13.39 | Codayus | Once you know it CAN be done... |
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| 12:13.45 | Diao | 4 people standing at 2% is epic |
| 12:13.51 | Orionshock | with only ~16 hrs total between HKM and Gruul |
| 12:13.59 | Codayus | Nice. |
| 12:14.06 | Diao | because 2% of his health is a massive amount |
| 12:14.11 | Orionshock | and over all only 1 person puged total |
| 12:14.12 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 12:14.39 | Codayus | Now go kill VR. |
| 12:14.42 | Orionshock | Our MT got the Killing Blow |
| 12:14.59 | Codayus | Actually, Solarian might be even easier at the moment. Hm |
| 12:15.08 | Diao | lol |
| 12:15.14 | Diao | solarian requires more coordination |
| 12:15.18 | Diao | especially on the aoe packs |
| 12:15.27 | Diao | unless you have a prot pally |
| 12:15.45 | Diao | in which case it becomes stupidly easy |
| 12:16.05 | Codayus | Mmm, AoE isn't too hard. If all else fails, take more mages/locks. The real trick is managing to convince people that your serious about /gkicking them if they blow the raid up. |
| 12:16.31 | Diao | our mages and locks kept dying during aoe phases |
| 12:16.32 | Diao | lol |
| 12:16.37 | Diao | mainly the mages, not the locks |
| 12:16.42 | Codayus | Squishy mages. |
| 12:16.45 | Diao | yep |
| 12:16.50 | Diao | full spellfire/spellstrike |
| 12:16.52 | Diao | no hp at all :( |
| 12:16.57 | Iceroth | "i got a really bad lag spike there" |
| 12:17.00 | Diao | drpped like rocks |
| 12:17.02 | Diao | dropped* |
| 12:17.23 | Diao | we even had warriors doing taunt rotations |
| 12:17.29 | Diao | but apparently 6 sec wasn't enough for mages to get them down :( |
| 12:17.31 | Iceroth | the standard excuse when half of the raid is dead after your bomb |
| 12:17.52 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:18.04 | Codayus | I swear, while learning, we saw some of the most retarded things. |
| 12:18.25 | Codayus | Tank gets the bomb, this is announced in vent, /rw, everthing, we're telling the melee to run away. |
| 12:18.32 | Codayus | Tank runs off to the designated area... |
| 12:18.36 | Iceroth | though i've heard some people asking how did he manage to cast 3 shadow bolts while being so badly lagged that he couldn't move... |
| 12:18.37 | Codayus | ....melee all follows him. |
| 12:18.42 | chexsum | lol |
| 12:18.49 | Codayus | Tunnel vision much? oO |
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| 12:19.45 | Codayus | No real excuse with boss mods. :-/ |
| 12:20.07 | kebinusan | bigwigs flash ns hake |
| 12:20.15 | Codayus | I know. <3 |
| 12:20.23 | kebinusan | I get tunnel vision trying to lead the raid and miss that crap |
| 12:20.27 | Codayus | Yes |
| 12:20.27 | kebinusan | well not since I found that feature |
| 12:20.35 | Codayus | I blew up the raid 3 times on our first learning night. |
| 12:20.40 | Diao | lol |
| 12:20.42 | Codayus | Raid leader AND shadow priest... |
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| 12:20.48 | chexsum | i sometimes miss alerts when staring at heal bars |
| 12:20.49 | Codayus | >< |
| 12:20.59 | kebinusan | I yelled at someone on astromancer... then proceeded to blow up the raid the next attempt |
| 12:21.08 | kebinusan | karma is a bitch |
| 12:21.38 | Codayus | I'd just finished telling people that the next person to blow the raid up would have there house burned down IRL. Then I got so distracted by checking what debuffs were on the boss... |
| 12:21.41 | Orionshock | http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/raevan_sky/WoWScrnShot_121007_205942.jpg |
| 12:21.47 | kebinusan | you page to a specific bar in bt3 with a slashcommand or something |
| 12:22.09 | Diao | o_O |
| 12:22.29 | kebinusan | you have a moonkin |
| 12:22.45 | kebinusan | Ive been trying to convince myself we should get one for a couple weeks now |
| 12:23.02 | sb_ | mhh well - you have to sacrifice one real dd :o |
| 12:23.05 | Codayus | Meh, seems radical. |
| 12:23.10 | Diao | moonkin are awesome dps |
| 12:23.11 | sb_ | same for retri pally |
| 12:23.14 | chexsum | our servers got a moonkin in full spellstrike/engineers hood/etc |
| 12:23.16 | Diao | they're just threat capped |
| 12:23.20 | Codayus | Now, a ret pally now...that's just about justifiable now. |
| 12:23.23 | chexsum | shes a mofo to heal |
| 12:23.24 | Diao | ret pally aren't a sacrifice anymore |
| 12:23.32 | Diao | they are insanely good dps and good utility |
| 12:23.34 | Codayus | In fact, we just picked up one, who rocks. :-) |
| 12:23.45 | kebinusan | we have too many melee for a ret pally atm |
| 12:23.47 | kebinusan | and too few healers |
| 12:23.53 | kebinusan | my server absolutely sucks for recruits |
| 12:23.55 | Diao | lol |
| 12:23.58 | Diao | replace one of your melee :( |
| 12:24.01 | chexsum | same |
| 12:24.03 | Codayus | kebinusan: Are you on my server?! |
| 12:24.04 | Diao | ret pally would be better anyway |
| 12:24.12 | kebinusan | US-Shu'halo |
| 12:24.15 | kebinusan | its a cesspool |
| 12:24.18 | Codayus | We realized we had a recruitment problem, has a big recruitment drive... |
| 12:24.19 | chexsum | im in the oldest guild but one that doesnt do real raiding |
| 12:24.27 | chexsum | probably the biggest guild also |
| 12:24.50 | JoshBorke | i hate all priests who have ritssyn's pendant, fyi |
| 12:24.54 | Codayus | Got a bunch of healers who never raid, some bad DPS who need to gear up in Kara, and a couple of kickass DPS who promptly left for guild starting on T6. |
| 12:25.05 | kebinusan | our server just got its 2nd kael killing guild tonight |
| 12:25.06 | Codayus | Meanwhile, half our tanks have RL issues and went on hiatus. |
| 12:25.12 | Diao | that's what happens if you do mass recruitment |
| 12:25.13 | kebinusan | and it was brought live when tbc was released |
| 12:25.15 | Codayus | We're farther behind than when we started recruiting. >< |
| 12:25.36 | chexsum | barthilas has 3 guilds that have clocked the game |
| 12:25.48 | chexsum | best aussie server for raiding |
| 12:25.57 | kebinusan | you should lose all your items when you transfer realms or something, maybe that way people wouldnt be so inclined to hop to a more progressed server |
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| 12:26.21 | Codayus | I dunno, recruitment issues are proving such a headache right now... Bleh. maybe it's the holidays. |
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| 12:27.14 | Kalroth | I've actually argued for that once. Items should be the guilds property, so if you leave the guild, you leave your gear behind too. Of course, it'd make it really hard to recruit people, so it was only valid pre-TBC and pre-server transfers :p |
| 12:28.13 | Diao | eh |
| 12:28.29 | Diao | blackrock is better for raiding ;p |
| 12:28.47 | Diao | got like 6 guilds with illi down |
| 12:29.05 | FinalX | there :o |
| 12:29.20 | chexsum | whats br quqeues like though |
| 12:29.29 | Diao | no queues most of the time |
| 12:29.37 | Diao | weekends sometimes we have up to 400~ |
| 12:29.48 | Diao | but that's only been for the past week or two |
| 12:29.49 | kebinusan | at the very least attunements should be guild flags so you dont need to key up incoming transfers and so someone cant use you to get attuned to BT then drop ship for an illidan killing guild imo |
| 12:29.57 | Kalroth | blackrock got eminence and elementium though |
| 12:29.58 | FinalX | Codayus, chexsum: I got mine first Karazhan run ever (Rittsyn's Lost Pendant that is) |
| 12:30.10 | Diao | and nurfed ;p |
| 12:30.15 | FinalX | Friend of mine (Warlock) has done Karazhan enough to get 4 times Exalted and still doesn't have it :o |
| 12:30.19 | Diao | lol |
| 12:30.24 | chexsum | that sucks |
| 12:30.29 | Diao | that's how our people are |
| 12:30.40 | Diao | some have run kara for like 6 months now and no pendant |
| 12:30.42 | Kalroth | FinalX: I got an alt with it. |
| 12:30.42 | Diao | others get it first run |
| 12:30.45 | chexsum | i just got LJ and the dps glvoes last week and it was in a pug run lol |
| 12:31.09 | Kalroth | FinalX: We had 3 drop in one run, had to disenchant the third because the hunter wasn't sure if he should loot it. |
| 12:31.11 | Kalroth | (....) |
| 12:31.12 | chexsum | i lost the roll on LJ to a shammy but the ML had a priest main and gave me it |
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| 12:31.48 | chexsum | i got KB when the whole raid died so id have cried if i missed out |
| 12:32.03 | Diao | KB? |
| 12:32.13 | chexsum | killing blow on prince |
| 12:32.15 | Diao | oh |
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| 12:32.37 | chexsum | he cleaned us up but i finished him off lol |
| 12:32.42 | chexsum | <-- holy priest |
| 12:33.04 | chexsum | sw:p/sw:d he came to me then i faded him to the shaman and wanded him to death |
| 12:33.05 | chexsum | lol |
| 12:33.16 | chexsum | fade is imba ;) |
| 12:33.30 | Diao | rofl |
| 12:33.55 | chexsum | the whole raid died but my sw:p ticked one last time and he fell |
| 12:34.04 | chexsum | second time weve done that on prince |
| 12:34.38 | chexsum | i actually think my spiritform kept him in combat for a few secs longer |
| 12:35.38 | chexsum | same run i had to solo heal nightbane from 25% to dead |
| 12:35.49 | chexsum | stupid pallys trying to holy light! |
| 12:35.57 | chexsum | they both oomed |
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| 12:38.08 | FinalX | Kalroth: would be something...Shadow Volley for a hunter :p |
| 12:38.53 | FinalX | we had 6 of those damn shammy/boomkin rings drop tho |
| 12:39.06 | chexsum | ve only seen 1 |
| 12:39.23 | FinalX | that onehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30667 |
| 12:39.24 | chexsum | 3 holy dmg cloaks all got sharded |
| 12:39.29 | FinalX | that one http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30667 even |
| 12:39.35 | FinalX | hehe, i got that on my shadowpriest as well |
| 12:39.47 | FinalX | as well as the emerald ripper from moroes, fool's bane from illhoof and a couple more useless items |
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| 12:39.59 | chexsum | i want the drood staff |
| 12:40.20 | FinalX | yeah, that never drops for us either ;( our teddy wants it badly too :P |
| 12:40.37 | chexsum | for my priest i mean lol |
| 12:40.48 | chexsum | id throw 70 ap on it too |
| 12:41.34 | FinalX | lol |
| 12:41.36 | Orionshock | how much def should a druid tank have? |
| 12:41.39 | FinalX | i'd so do that :D |
| 12:41.51 | chexsum | 390 i think |
| 12:41.57 | Orionshock | no |
| 12:42.02 | FinalX | druids cant get much def |
| 12:42.29 | chexsum | they cant get immune to crushing or something so its basically pointless |
| 12:42.46 | FinalX | they cant block or parry either, only dodge and take hits with armor.. |
| 12:43.02 | Jops | 155 def rating is enough to get uncrittable |
| 12:43.07 | chexsum | yea def get a lot of armor |
| 12:43.14 | chexsum | thats the main stat |
| 12:44.10 | chexsum | im hanging on to some lvl 60 levelling gear on my druid because its one of the best armor values |
| 12:44.30 | chexsum | theres a druid gear list online somewhere |
| 12:44.46 | FinalX | dito for shadowpriests btw, shadowpriest.com has a very nice gear list :o |
| 12:44.56 | chexsum | yeah |
| 12:45.02 | Codayus | http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=6594 |
| 12:45.04 | chexsum | shadowpanther for rogues i think |
| 12:45.41 | FinalX | meh |
| 12:45.44 | chexsum | shadowpriest.com goes for dmg more than anything so its not the best guid imho |
| 12:45.51 | Codayus | Um |
| 12:45.58 | Codayus | Damage is by far the best stat. |
| 12:46.00 | FinalX | gladiator's spellblade has more spelldmg than my current dagger with +40 spelldmg.. |
| 12:46.07 | FinalX | aye, damage is a shadowpriest's absolute main stat |
| 12:46.12 | Codayus | So um, it SHOULD. |
| 12:46.27 | chexsum | same i have to pass on dps stuff since i mostly heal now |
| 12:46.58 | Codayus | (With the exception of hit, but that's trivial to cap as you get epiced out...) |
| 12:47.06 | FinalX | damage restores mana and health, and the only spells that can crit are mind blast and sw:death, for which you can get easy +15% crit through talents as well, and they're not used as often as all your other spells that can't crit |
| 12:47.32 | chexsum | i make sure im at 10k health on my spriest |
| 12:47.44 | FinalX | i kinda like my current combination of gear... gonna replace bracers with the new pvp ones though and throw a +9 gem into that instead of +hit, i can still cap out by replacing my offhand then |
| 12:47.44 | chexsum | and max hit |
| 12:47.53 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 12:48.11 | chexsum | i spam sw:d/mb a lot |
| 12:48.23 | chexsum | and healers dont care about dps :( |
| 12:48.38 | Codayus | HP stacking doesn't thrill me. If I'm taking multiple hits, I'm dead no matter what. Nothing is going to 1 shot me with any HP total on 90% of the fights... |
| 12:49.02 | FinalX | sw:death is kind of a waste though tbh, usually cooling off at moments you're already casting, then add global cooldown and mind blast cooldown... |
| 12:49.09 | FinalX | i usually stick with dots+mb/mf |
| 12:49.26 | Codayus | FinalX: If you've got the mana, it's better DPS than MF... |
| 12:50.02 | Codayus | And the health, but with VE ticking, I top myself off pretty fast. |
| 12:50.06 | FinalX | For grinding, aye. In Kara you don't really want to be doing that. |
| 12:50.23 | Codayus | I spam SW:D constantly in Kara. No problems. *shrug* |
| 12:50.32 | Diao | druids need 415 def rating |
| 12:50.36 | Diao | er |
| 12:50.37 | Diao | defense* |
| 12:50.41 | Diao | if they have the talent |
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| 12:50.45 | Codayus | (Exceptions: Curator during weaken, Netherspite during blue beam, Prince during engeeble.) |
| 12:51.02 | FinalX | It's higher DPS, aye, but, it's inconvenient with the global cooldown imho. |
| 12:51.10 | FinalX | And sw:death at Curator during Evocation is totally lol. |
| 12:51.17 | FinalX | One-shotted myself 3 times with that. |
| 12:51.20 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:51.24 | Codayus | Well |
| 12:51.28 | chexsum | i dont use sw:d as much as possible because its a waste of man |
| 12:51.44 | chexsum | mb i do spam almost always when its up |
| 12:51.52 | Codayus | The obvious question is "what is the single BEST use of the next 1.5s"? Often, it's going to be SW:D. Depends on other issues of course. |
| 12:52.04 | chexsum | its an awesome spall to keep mana flowing |
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| 12:52.22 | FinalX | I kinda want sw:Death to be off of cooldown when the mobs are nearly dead so I can get the kb. And don't get me wrong, I do often use it to get an even higher dps, but it's not in my basic rotation. |
| 12:52.24 | Codayus | chexsum: Stack more dmg. At T4, MB/DW:D runs you dry. At T5+, it gets much more sustainable. |
| 12:52.26 | Diao | doesn't MB do more damage/scale better than swd |
| 12:52.42 | chexsum | yeah if theres 4s before redebuffing ill mb if its 2s ill sw:d |
| 12:53.12 | chexsum | yes its also better because of the reduced cost |
| 12:53.12 | FinalX | Diao: Both get 1.5s casting bonus. |
| 12:53.14 | Codayus | Erm... MB and SW:D take the same time to cast. |
| 12:53.24 | chexsum | in my rotation i do 1 mindflay max |
| 12:53.31 | Codayus | (And SW:D is instant, so is super fun for movement fights, of course.) |
| 12:53.37 | Diao | oh |
| 12:53.44 | FinalX | I like Mind Flay much more for that :P |
| 12:53.47 | Diao | yeah i haven't played as shadow for a while |
| 12:53.49 | Diao | my priest is disc lol |
| 12:53.52 | FinalX | "Cool, watch the blue beam go! :D" |
| 12:54.19 | FinalX | I do use sw:Death a lot on the flares at curator and demon chains at illhoof |
| 12:54.36 | chexsum | i used to flay as main dps but mb cost reduction and timings made me change |
| 12:54.57 | Diao | what was the ideal +dmg again |
| 12:55.01 | FinalX | But I respecced recently from full Shadow to Shadow w/ Meditation in Disc.. it's kinda nice, although it did lower my DPS by some. But that also meant the tank can keep better aggro now so I have to stop casting less. |
| 12:55.02 | Diao | where you could mb/swd on every rotation |
| 12:55.07 | Diao | and never go oom |
| 12:55.09 | |Stan| | FinalX: using sw:d in the innvervate phase is much more fun :P |
| 12:55.10 | Codayus | On Illhoof and Lynx boss, I tend to save MB and SW:D cooldowns for chains/totems. Lowers my DPS, but...works well. |
| 12:55.11 | Diao | er every cd |
| 12:55.21 | FinalX | |Stan|: |
| 12:55.22 | FinalX | 13:50:37 < FinalX> And sw:death at Curator during Evocation is totally lol. |
| 12:55.22 | FinalX | 13:50:43 < FinalX> One-shotted myself 3 times with that. |
| 12:55.30 | |Stan| | hehe |
| 12:55.35 | Diao | your hp is too low! |
| 12:55.37 | FinalX | It's kind of a habit. |
| 12:55.40 | Diao | :P |
| 12:55.43 | FinalX | My HP too low? lol. |
| 12:55.45 | |Stan| | BOOM 8k crit |
| 12:55.46 | chexsum | i done a 27k sw:d trying to get the kb on netherspite one time |
| 12:55.50 | FinalX | 8k? |
| 12:55.50 | Diao | 8k shouldn't be enough to kill you |
| 12:55.57 | |Stan| | it isnt |
| 12:55.58 | FinalX | Try 12k crits. |
| 12:56.07 | |Stan| | lol never had one that high |
| 12:56.07 | chexsum | had 50 debuffs or something |
| 12:56.15 | Diao | did you have an ISB up |
| 12:56.16 | Diao | or something |
| 12:56.18 | chexsum | and lock debuff |
| 12:56.24 | FinalX | We have a shaman in my group, curse of shadows, etc. |
| 12:56.25 | chexsum | yea |
| 12:56.33 | Diao | i don't see it happening regularly without ISB |
| 12:56.38 | Diao | which requires a dest lock :O |
| 12:56.46 | Codayus | I got a 3.7k critical SW:D on Gruul, I can't imagine what I could do on Netherspite if I wanted... |
| 12:56.47 | FinalX | yep |
| 12:56.48 | FinalX | :p |
| 12:56.49 | chexsum | he was at 2$ and i thought ' ill give it a shot' lol |
| 12:57.04 | Diao | yeah |
| 12:57.05 | chexsum | then ' oh crap someone get in that beam' lol |
| 12:57.07 | FinalX | Codayus: Well, death? ;) |
| 12:57.14 | Diao | 34k crit is my best in blue beam on nether |
| 12:57.15 | Diao | lol |
| 12:57.17 | Diao | right as phase ended |
| 12:57.18 | Codayus | I usually take the blue beam for an entire phase, so...mmm. |
| 12:57.19 | Diao | and he went to banish |
| 12:57.27 | FinalX | Yeah, me too. |
| 12:57.31 | Codayus | Yeah, that'd rock. |
| 12:57.32 | Diao | first tiem i was playing as shadow |
| 12:57.34 | FinalX | As does my wife (Affliction Lock). |
| 12:57.48 | FinalX | (We sometimes have a Destro lock with us too... Shadow heaven) |
| 12:57.51 | chexsum | my sw:p was giving 500 mana ticks once also |
| 12:58.00 | Codayus | Anyhow, sitting in town, MF is 506 DPS for me, MB is 1169, and SW:D is 1061. |
| 12:58.11 | Codayus | So, SW:D is well worth the GCD |
| 12:58.12 | chexsum | healers love me when im shadow on that fight |
| 12:58.24 | Diao | lol |
| 12:58.48 | Codayus | (If I wanted to be retarded with mana, it'd be worth it to SW:D, and then do half a MF; I'd still dome out ahead on DPS. |
| 12:59.11 | FinalX | I was on my holy priest once, with my current group, and they kept crying I should switch to my Shadowpriest as it was much harder this way... while normally you don't hear anything about how happy they are with you... you're "just the class that ninja's the items you want" :P |
| 12:59.25 | chexsum | i think the debuff says the wrong value or its calculated wrong on netherspite |
| 12:59.31 | |Stan| | you can't reall usw SW:D on most of the Hyjal/BT encounters anymore :( |
| 12:59.35 | Codayus | You should hear our hunters fight over getting a spriest in their group. |
| 12:59.42 | chexsum | i calculated what stuff should be and it was nowhere near 27k crits etc |
| 12:59.43 | |Stan| | too much environmental damage |
| 12:59.44 | FinalX | hehehe |
| 12:59.55 | [dRaCo] | 1 hunter in a caster group is ok, if he's BM |
| 13:00.03 | chexsum | hunters never get into my group |
| 13:00.26 | chexsum | if its a dps itll be a shaman first mage second |
| 13:00.55 | FinalX | our groups consist of gr1: warrior/rogue/affl lock/? hunter/feral druid, gr2: shadowpriest, holy priest, holy paladin (who absolutely adores me), ? shammy and a frostmage. |
| 13:01.08 | FinalX | that group setup works quite well |
| 13:01.16 | Diao | afflock? |
| 13:01.17 | Codayus | chexsum: Hunters arguably benefit more than any other class from a spriest... Depending on fight/gear/lots of factors, JoW may be enough to substitute for the spriest though. |
| 13:01.18 | Diao | is that the tank group |
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| 13:01.42 | Deviad | Hello |
| 13:01.47 | Codayus | Oh, I'm talking about 25 man raids, of course. 10 mans...shove them in randomly. Synergy? Lawl. |
| 13:01.51 | FinalX | yes, but that's better than no imp eh :) |
| 13:01.53 | chexsum | our allys have nfi about judgements and bos |
| 13:01.57 | chexsum | pallys |
| 13:02.07 | Diao | how long were you estimating beams last chex? |
| 13:02.08 | Deviad | Some time ago I downloaded a mod for the links in the chat in order to display the information about them. |
| 13:02.18 | Deviad | I don't remember its name anymore, can you please give me a hint? |
| 13:02.29 | chexsum | dunno but i know the first ones short |
| 13:02.38 | Diao | it should be ~1 min? |
| 13:02.40 | Diao | iirc |
| 13:02.40 | chexsum | the most debuffs ive seen was 50 |
| 13:02.43 | Diao | slightly less |
| 13:02.53 | Diao | because i am generally the tank |
| 13:03.02 | Diao | 31 debuffs is my normal health |
| 13:03.11 | chexsum | i think its 30s then 45 from then on |
| 13:03.14 | Diao | i usually let it go down to like 34-35 |
| 13:03.19 | Diao | and have the second person step in |
| 13:03.32 | chexsum | im usually in blue before it fires off so think 50 is as good as it gets |
| 13:03.51 | chexsum | im on the verge of dying at 40 debuffs |
| 13:04.02 | FinalX | we have a rogue and tank B in the green beam |
| 13:04.09 | Deviad | it should be link something |
| 13:04.10 | chexsum | if the healer gets sidetracked the effect 2 shots me |
| 13:04.19 | FinalX | tank A steps in and out of red beam, then next round tank B goes into red and does the same, tank A takes green beam etc |
| 13:04.21 | Diao | lol |
| 13:04.25 | chexsum | our healers go in if theres a spriest |
| 13:04.39 | Diao | huh |
| 13:04.43 | FinalX | our healers dont stand in any beam and just focus on the people in blue beam |
| 13:04.46 | Diao | tank A takes green beam? |
| 13:04.46 | Diao | o_o |
| 13:04.52 | Codayus | We do MT in red, OT in green, for a full phase. Next phase OT in red, MT in green. DPS gets into catfights during banish about who gets to hog the blue beam next. |
| 13:04.56 | FinalX | yes, rogues/tanks don't have mana |
| 13:05.02 | FinalX | works quite well |
| 13:05.04 | Diao | you said rogue and tank B |
| 13:05.08 | Diao | so i was wondering where tank A came in ;p |
| 13:05.11 | Codayus | Rogue/feral/warrior in green = FUN |
| 13:05.15 | chexsum | shammys love dropping totems at 30 debuffs in the heal beam |
| 13:05.32 | Diao | we've always had an overabundance of holy pallies |
| 13:05.35 | chexsum | thats the most fun fight for a dotter/hotter |
| 13:05.35 | Diao | who take the red beam along with tanks |
| 13:05.48 | chexsum | seriously? |
| 13:05.50 | FinalX | Diao: tank B is a feral druid, it's not 'and' but rather 'or', depends on the situation really :P |
| 13:05.57 | Diao | oh |
| 13:06.07 | Diao | i like being a warrior |
| 13:06.09 | Diao | we can take all 3 beams |
| 13:06.11 | Diao | for massive execute damage |
| 13:06.12 | Diao | :D |
| 13:06.15 | FinalX | lol |
| 13:06.16 | chexsum | lol |
| 13:06.20 | Diao | red beam = 100 rage executes |
| 13:06.23 | Diao | blue = high damage executes |
| 13:06.25 | Codayus | Netherspite is a blast, IMHO. |
| 13:06.31 | Diao | green = cheap cost (ie high damage) executes |
| 13:06.34 | Diao | so it's all win |
| 13:06.36 | chexsum | a mt done that once and whipped out some big axe |
| 13:06.48 | chexsum | he failed at max debuffs though |
| 13:06.48 | FinalX | we were scared shitless of netherspite the first time |
| 13:06.53 | FinalX | hearing about how hard he was and all |
| 13:06.58 | Diao | lol |
| 13:07.00 | FinalX | we did him once, wiped, got up and killed him :P |
| 13:07.10 | Diao | we wiped twice |
| 13:07.14 | chexsum | the pug i go with now runs to the walls when he gets banished |
| 13:07.16 | Codayus | The fight is hard from an execution point of view, but...no gear needed, really. |
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| 13:07.20 | chexsum | its weird |
| 13:07.21 | Diao | trying to do it the retarded method that everyone on guides writes about |
| 13:07.25 | Diao | with the running to the wall thing |
| 13:07.29 | FinalX | yeah, we do too chexsum, works fine that way for us |
| 13:07.33 | Diao | then we switched to our own method of dodging netherbreath |
| 13:07.38 | Diao | and downed him first try |
| 13:07.42 | chexsum | i think thats noob since its hard to heal tanks |
| 13:07.44 | Codayus | We couldn't teach some of our healers to dodge behind netherspite...no matter what. >< |
| 13:07.54 | chexsum | i think the circle is best |
| 13:07.55 | Codayus | Eventually, we gave up, and did it the cheesy "can't fail" way - running to the walls. |
| 13:07.56 | FinalX | why noob? just dont let your tank stay there |
| 13:08.02 | FinalX | we let the tanks run as well. |
| 13:08.07 | chexsum | gotta keep him in the middle though |
| 13:08.08 | FinalX | netherspite aint going anywhere :P |
| 13:08.27 | Codayus | Because we had some people who just...couldn't...dodge. "Which way is he facing? I can't tell!" >< |
| 13:08.34 | Kalroth | lol |
| 13:08.36 | FinalX | lol |
| 13:08.45 | Diao | lol |
| 13:08.49 | Diao | we use that as intelligence check |
| 13:08.55 | Diao | if someone fails to dodge netherspite when we take them through kara |
| 13:08.57 | Diao | they failed |
| 13:09.01 | Kalroth | I always go for the breathe, more rage! |
| 13:09.07 | FinalX | xD |
| 13:09.09 | Codayus | Whereas running to the walls can be done by vegetables. Apparently. >< |
| 13:09.17 | FinalX | Eh |
| 13:09.18 | FinalX | No :) |
| 13:09.26 | FinalX | We had enough fucktards that couldnt even understand that part. |
| 13:09.29 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 13:09.36 | Codayus | FinalX: Okay, I thought *we* failed. |
| 13:09.38 | RaydenUni | wish i'd done netherspite so i knew what you were talking about |
| 13:09.39 | FinalX | But those were replacements for people that couldn't come :) |
| 13:09.41 | Codayus | You fail worse I guess? >< |
| 13:10.02 | RaydenUni | i tried to explain the chess event to my guildmates and they all went "huh?" |
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| 13:10.19 | FinalX | Our shammy has a hard time showing up, so we often replace him. |
| 13:10.20 | Codayus | Once you get a stat that works, it's hard to change it...lots of inertia. |
| 13:10.25 | Codayus | strat, even |
| 13:10.29 | FinalX | aye |
| 13:11.33 | Diao | lol |
| 13:11.57 | RaydenUni | "the curator flares do a lot of aoe dps, so we gotta kill them quickly, so we are all going to stand together so the melee don't have to run" "wait, if they do lots of dps shouldn't we spread apart?" |
| 13:12.13 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:12.14 | chexsum | lol |
| 13:12.20 | Diao | lol |
| 13:12.24 | chexsum | the pug i go with now stands together |
| 13:12.28 | Codayus | Yeah, I'm glad we're [ast the phase of needing to explain fights |
| 13:12.30 | Diao | i remember when reading about curator |
| 13:12.39 | RaydenUni | we ran for the first time last night so we stood together. we have an off tank, and two melee dps |
| 13:12.41 | chexsum | its easier on healing imho |
| 13:12.44 | Diao | and going "why do people spread out in their guides.. seems like it'd be easier to just have everyone group together and nuke down stuff" |
| 13:12.50 | Codayus | At this point, everyone just knows our strat...so we can just zerg it, and keep joking in vent. |
| 13:12.51 | chexsum | constan healing is needed but its easier\ |
| 13:13.06 | Diao | yea |
| 13:13.08 | Deviad | I found out this is a part of prat |
| 13:13.14 | Deviad | the problem is the following |
| 13:13.17 | Codayus | No explanations, no wipes, no stress. :-) |
| 13:13.18 | kebinusan | the flares had a max of 3 targets I thought |
| 13:13.18 | Deviad | when I click on a chat link |
| 13:13.18 | Diao | even on our decked healers they have to use mana pots occasionally |
| 13:13.21 | Diao | they do have a max |
| 13:13.26 | Codayus | kebinusan: Exactly. |
| 13:13.32 | Deviad | and next on the x I still have a frame on the screen that does not disappear |
| 13:13.37 | Codayus | If you spread out POORLY, the flares hit 3 people, and are hard to DPS down. |
| 13:13.39 | Deviad | why do I have this? |
| 13:13.40 | Diao | the x? |
| 13:13.41 | Kalroth | Our healers have to use mana potions on chess encounter. |
| 13:13.43 | Deviad | I'm also using informant |
| 13:13.45 | Deviad | yes |
| 13:13.46 | Deviad | [X] |
| 13:13.47 | Codayus | If you clump up, the flares hit 3 people, and are easy to DPS down. |
| 13:13.51 | chexsum | lol |
| 13:14.00 | Diao | uhhh |
| 13:14.06 | Diao | take a screenshot and upload it |
| 13:14.06 | Codayus | If you spread out well, well, I've never seen that happen. |
| 13:14.09 | Diao | i have no clue what you're talking about |
| 13:14.15 | chexsum | theres been about 3 times where a pugger grabbed the king and disconnected in my latest runs of chess |
| 13:14.20 | chexsum | the king vanishes then |
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| 13:14.26 | Diao | lol |
| 13:14.30 | Deviad | Diao, you know, the cross to close the window |
| 13:14.38 | Diao | we've always had our RL (usually me) take the king |
| 13:14.41 | Deviad | in this case the frame |
| 13:14.42 | chexsum | 2 times ive said 'dont take the king' |
| 13:14.57 | Diao | hmm |
| 13:14.58 | RaydenUni | <Diao> even on our decked healers they have to use mana pots occasionally <-- woot for shadow priests and evocation phase! |
| 13:15.05 | Diao | we always have 1 shadow priest too :( |
| 13:15.10 | Diao | but we only use 2 healers |
| 13:15.11 | Diao | so~ |
| 13:15.16 | RaydenUni | we have 2 |
| 13:15.20 | Deviad | I click on it and I still get a frame beneath that does not disappear |
| 13:15.21 | chexsum | i use those new crystal pots now |
| 13:15.22 | Diao | i don't have an "x" Deviad |
| 13:15.26 | RaydenUni | i think for that fight priest and shaman |
| 13:15.28 | chexsum | usedto be combat pots ftw |
| 13:15.30 | Diao | it pops up a window for me with "accept" |
| 13:15.54 | chexsum | deviad, thats a tab |
| 13:16.34 | chexsum | you can just lock chat settings in wow advanced options to get rid of the clickiness of the chat frames |
| 13:16.37 | Codayus | Our RL/MT always takes the king. :-) |
| 13:16.42 | Diao | yea |
| 13:16.46 | Codayus | I think he just can't stand not being the center of attention? |
| 13:16.47 | Diao | we always thought nobody but the RL could take it |
| 13:16.50 | FinalX | Diao: Depends on your Shadowpriest's skills and your healers classes. Priests can use a Shadowfiend during Evocation to get 3 times as much mana back as well. |
| 13:16.55 | Diao | so nobody ever tried |
| 13:16.57 | Deviad | chexsum, I have just disabled prat chatlink |
| 13:16.59 | Diao | we use 2 paladins |
| 13:17.00 | Deviad | since it's useless |
| 13:17.07 | Diao | and shadowpriest does refill mana during evoc |
| 13:17.18 | Diao | but that was when our dps was not so good |
| 13:17.25 | Codayus | If you have the DPS for flares, having your spreist JUST focus on curator is good. |
| 13:17.27 | Diao | now we kill flares so quickly that healers don't heal at all except on tanks ;p |
| 13:17.33 | Codayus | Get some really nice VE/VT returns. |
| 13:18.02 | Codayus | Waste of potential regen to have them DPS flares. |
| 13:18.04 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 13:18.09 | RaydenUni | true |
| 13:18.15 | RaydenUni | i don't think my guild has the dps for that |
| 13:18.19 | FinalX | Codayus: Shadowpriest should switch just before he starts Evocation imho, not earlier, just a waste of mana then... I usually focus on flares then when he's about to Evo, I start adding VT/sw:pain etc. |
| 13:18.19 | kenlyric | I had a hyperdumb sometimes RL in kara who would place pallies and druids and shammies in his group over me (he was a shadow priest) |
| 13:18.23 | RaydenUni | so the trash right before curator, the mana burning ones? |
| 13:18.35 | RaydenUni | none of us thought about it and so sent our pally tank to pull and then tank them :D |
| 13:18.41 | kenlyric | i was like "yo bitch, fix it!" |
| 13:18.46 | Codayus | FinalX: Disagree 100%, but it's gear/raid dependent. |
| 13:18.46 | Diao | lol |
| 13:18.54 | Diao | what class kenlyric? |
| 13:19.07 | Codayus | Last week, Curator enraged during the first weaken... |
| 13:19.07 | kenlyric | the one who needed mana the most. |
| 13:19.11 | kenlyric | holy priest |
| 13:19.13 | Diao | ah |
| 13:19.36 | Codayus | With spriest (me) on him 100%. Me focusing on adds as well would be...less than useful. :-) |
| 13:19.37 | RaydenUni | we ALWAYS have a 5 min discussion on who should be in my group |
| 13:19.38 | FinalX | Codayus: My DPS is one of the highest in the group, especially with mindblast/sw:death being 1.5s casts and doing pretty high burst damage on the flares, makes the flares go down a lot quicker. |
| 13:19.41 | RaydenUni | i was RL this week so i just did it :) |
| 13:19.44 | Diao | lol |
| 13:19.47 | Diao | I'm RL/GM/MT |
| 13:19.50 | Diao | so whatever i say goes |
| 13:19.50 | Diao | ;D |
| 13:20.03 | Codayus | FinalX: I don't think you understand; if the raid is downing flares instantly, then your DPS is wasted. |
| 13:20.08 | RaydenUni | i was top dps for curator and big bad wolf :) |
| 13:20.17 | Codayus | And since curator needs to die sooner or later... |
| 13:20.29 | FinalX | Codayus: I don't think you do, with flares not dying quickly, you have quite a few running around. |
| 13:20.36 | Codayus | Uhhh |
| 13:20.43 | RaydenUni | you could keep dots up on curator and use SWD and MF on flares |
| 13:20.52 | FinalX | Codayus: That's why you have the Evocation, everyone but melee dps full out nukes Curator immediately when he starts Evocating, melee dps finishes off last flare. |
| 13:20.58 | RaydenUni | FinalX he just specified the condition of flares going down fast |
| 13:20.59 | kenlyric | simple truth: if your dps is enough that you can lose any off the flares, then the first should be melee and the second a shadow priest. |
| 13:21.20 | chexsum | deviad, sry thought you were talking about something else i have no idea what chatlink does :( |
| 13:21.23 | Diao | melee should be on curator before casters tbh |
| 13:21.25 | Diao | they do much more damage |
| 13:21.32 | FinalX | I already stated the condition, so pretty pointless to change that to prove your point. |
| 13:21.41 | kenlyric | melee should always be on curator if you can afford it. |
| 13:21.44 | chexsum | i just toggled it and it didnt do abnything different |
| 13:21.45 | Diao | and uh |
| 13:21.51 | Diao | if your dps is high enough |
| 13:21.51 | Deviad | /prat chatlink |
| 13:21.53 | Deviad | that's it |
| 13:21.55 | Diao | flares should literally die as soon as they spawn |
| 13:21.58 | RaydenUni | i think we agree, low dps means everyone on flares |
| 13:21.59 | Codayus | I stated my condition first...so...unless your being wilfully obtuse... |
| 13:22.05 | RaydenUni | if you have too much dps when start moving melee |
| 13:22.06 | Diao | which means spri should be on curator |
| 13:22.36 | Codayus | Spriest on curator maximises your VE and VT returns. This may or may not outweigh the higher DPS another class could do... |
| 13:22.45 | RaydenUni | spri could very easily keep most dots up on curator and use non dots for flares |
| 13:22.51 | kenlyric | if you have the dps for flares to die "literally as soon as they spawn" you're not doing karazhan for anything more than shits and giggles. |
| 13:23.00 | Codayus | kenlyric: Badges! |
| 13:23.09 | Diao | yea |
| 13:23.10 | kenlyric | "giggles" |
| 13:23.11 | Diao | we do them for badges |
| 13:23.15 | chexsum | deviad, i cant see any difference :( |
| 13:23.21 | Diao | we're barely progressed in ssc/tk |
| 13:23.23 | RaydenUni | i think i ran KZ last night with my carrot on a stick equipped |
| 13:23.24 | Diao | only 1 boss down in each |
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| 13:23.26 | Codayus | ~20 badges in 3 hours = <3 |
| 13:23.32 | RaydenUni | i never noticed except during a fight, at which point you can't do it |
| 13:23.37 | Diao | and yet we've got the dps to kill flares practically as soon as they spawn |
| 13:23.47 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: wait until you do it with your fishingg pole equipped |
| 13:23.59 | RaydenUni | i don't fish much |
| 13:24.12 | RaydenUni | but yeah :) |
| 13:24.19 | RaydenUni | bah |
| 13:24.21 | Codayus | Skill > gear. Some of our raids get to Prince in 2 hours. Some...a lot more. :-) |
| 13:24.29 | RaydenUni | Icon of the Silver Crescent requires forty ONE badges |
| 13:24.34 | Diao | 2 hours including all optional bosses? :o |
| 13:24.35 | chexsum | i done up to curator or something with 0% durability before i realized it |
| 13:24.38 | kenlyric | curator is easy for people who can pick up a target quickly. |
| 13:24.42 | chexsum | i noticed my weapon was missing lol |
| 13:24.50 | Codayus | Diao: Excluding all optional. :-) We're only 1 boss into SSC, 2 into TK. |
| 13:24.53 | Diao | ah |
| 13:24.56 | kenlyric | for people who can't... :/ |
| 13:25.01 | Diao | we do all optional except for animal boss |
| 13:25.03 | Diao | in ~3 hrs |
| 13:25.08 | Diao | 22 badges ftw |
| 13:25.18 | chexsum | 5 hours in a pug here |
| 13:25.26 | Diao | we're 5/6 ZA now too though |
| 13:25.28 | Codayus | Takes us about 3:20 I think to fully clear Kara with a good group. |
| 13:25.32 | Diao | still working on ZJ :( |
| 13:25.39 | chexsum | and thats with a few changes to people |
| 13:25.46 | Codayus | The trash is what really slows you down; optional bosses are free badges, basically. |
| 13:26.26 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:26.27 | Codayus | Anyhow, back to the "oops, wrong gear" topic - we wiped in TK once in VRs room; MT just wasn't holding aggro. |
| 13:26.29 | kenlyric | especially the ones with very little trash |
| 13:26.37 | Codayus | Turned out he'd had Decapitator eequipped since we had zoned in. |
| 13:26.40 | kenlyric | like attumen and illhoof. |
| 13:26.44 | RaydenUni | we wiped on the first pull going to morores :D |
| 13:26.54 | RaydenUni | stupid hunter |
| 13:26.55 | Codayus | People had been whining about threat a bit...but everyone assumed they were just whining. |
| 13:26.58 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: that's really not hard to do. |
| 13:27.07 | RaydenUni | kenlyric it was just a really bad mistake of a pull |
| 13:27.15 | RaydenUni | but a fun way to start the evening |
| 13:27.32 | Codayus | Nightbane is best, no clearing at all to down him. |
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| 13:27.44 | chexsum | worst run ive ever done was an 8 hour heroic sh |
| 13:27.50 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:27.56 | Diao | ouch |
| 13:27.57 | kenlyric | that room's difficulty exponentially scales with how many priests you have :) |
| 13:27.59 | Diao | 8 hours o_O |
| 13:28.03 | chexsum | went in there 2 weeks later and done the attunement run |
| 13:28.13 | chexsum | def wasnt me holding us back on the 8 hour run |
| 13:28.16 | kenlyric | I think I once went 5.5 hours once. |
| 13:28.17 | Codayus | Actually, I did a 3:30 hour heroic SLabs recently. A blue geared hunter, and a mage who dinged 70 ~30m before the run. |
| 13:28.28 | kenlyric | once |
| 13:28.29 | Codayus | That was...fun. I think chexsum wins though. |
| 13:28.34 | Diao | lol |
| 13:28.40 | Diao | i'd have quit |
| 13:28.43 | Diao | by the 2nd hour probably |
| 13:28.44 | chexsum | its funny how many levelling eared people are trying to do heroics now |
| 13:28.52 | Diao | i have no tolerance for bad players |
| 13:28.53 | kenlyric | that was some horrible abortion of an MC run. |
| 13:29.05 | chexsum | ive wiped on the second pull many times since the patch then found out the tank or something had 1 epic |
| 13:29.06 | kenlyric | chexsum: funny or sad? |
| 13:29.32 | chexsum | well we dont get saved on trash now so i just gigle and hearth |
| 13:29.37 | Codayus | *shrug* I only do guild runs for heroics. |
| 13:29.45 | Diao | you know what i DO find funny though |
| 13:29.45 | RaydenUni | i quit a SL run the other day when we wiped 3 times between the 1st and 2nd boss |
| 13:29.47 | chexsum | wow doesnt stress me at all |
| 13:29.50 | RaydenUni | non heroic |
| 13:29.51 | Diao | is when I do heroic mech or sp |
| 13:29.54 | Diao | and not tanking it |
| 13:30.02 | Diao | on my warrior in full s2/s3, stormherald with executioner |
| 13:30.10 | Diao | and i get MCed |
| 13:30.12 | chexsum | lol |
| 13:30.13 | Diao | i always enjoy that one |
| 13:30.27 | Diao | cause i'll turn and 2shot the healer/range dps |
| 13:30.28 | kenlyric | you can get by with a lot more fail in karazhan than you can in heroics. |
| 13:30.33 | Diao | then intercept and kill the tank |
| 13:30.37 | kenlyric | all in all, i'd just rather do KZ |
| 13:30.39 | Codayus | I swear, the 2nd slabs boss gets harder with better gear so much... |
| 13:30.46 | Diao | it does |
| 13:30.46 | chexsum | i used to get a s1 geared warr in to bf to help me level and he used to wipe us on the mc boss all the time |
| 13:30.53 | Diao | lol |
| 13:31.07 | RaydenUni | lol, one of our guys got MC'd by the trash after Moroes so I dotted him. the healers were very unhappy |
| 13:31.08 | chexsum | crit us for 4k with mooncleaver and we would have k health lol |
| 13:31.16 | chexsum | 6k |
| 13:31.17 | Diao | one time on inciter |
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| 13:31.21 | Diao | i killed our hunter 5 times |
| 13:31.25 | Diao | like |
| 13:31.30 | Diao | i killed her, she ran back to help dps more |
| 13:31.34 | kenlyric | what trash mind controlls after moroes? |
| 13:31.34 | Diao | i killed her again on next MC |
| 13:31.37 | Diao | repeat |
| 13:31.40 | RaydenUni | i think i've only wiped once on the MC boss in SL |
| 13:31.42 | Diao | the elite packs that you can skip :P |
| 13:31.48 | RaydenUni | yes |
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| 13:31.50 | kenlyric | but where are they? |
| 13:31.50 | Codayus | Kara is def where its at for fun/badges, if you have a good group. |
| 13:31.50 | chexsum | i hate the mc boss |
| 13:31.56 | chexsum | some groups just cant do that |
| 13:31.56 | RaydenUni | kenlyric the room leading to Moroes or Maiden |
| 13:32.19 | kenlyric | I don't remember these guys. |
| 13:32.27 | Deviad | I solved the issue |
| 13:32.28 | Codayus | kenlyric: Everyone skips them... |
| 13:32.28 | chexsum | yea theres trash in the room before moroes that mcs |
| 13:32.37 | Deviad | Orionshock, btw I found te problem I had yesterday with the bar |
| 13:32.44 | Codayus | The large groups of elites standing around in the middle of the ballroom. |
| 13:32.45 | Deviad | I had paging enabled in Bartender3 |
| 13:32.50 | Deviad | I disabled it and now everything works |
| 13:32.50 | Deviad | :P |
| 13:33.19 | chexsum | ive got a weird bug where modifier isnt working on my new computer |
| 13:33.37 | chexsum | makes pvp hard atm but i cant be bothered figuring it out |
| 13:34.12 | chexsum | g15 keyboard now so its probably that doing it |
| 13:34.19 | Diao | ? |
| 13:34.23 | Diao | i use a g15 and modifiers work fine |
| 13:34.32 | Diao | macros you mean right? |
| 13:35.03 | chexsum | i use /cast [modifier,target=player] Renew; [harm] SW:P; Renew sort of stuff and renew on myself isnt working most of the time |
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| 13:35.35 | chexsum | i use that style for most of my spells so im pretty broken atm |
| 13:35.37 | Diao | uh |
| 13:35.39 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:35.47 | chexsum | prom never fails but renew always gets locked out |
| 13:35.47 | Diao | hmm |
| 13:36.01 | chexsum | nfi whats up |
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| 13:36.22 | kenlyric | teehee at prom |
| 13:36.32 | chexsum | i copy/pasted wow folder after installing wow then bc :\ |
| 13:36.49 | Diao | /cast [mod:shift,target=player] Renew etc |
| 13:36.50 | Diao | ? |
| 13:37.02 | Diao | or alt or ctrl |
| 13:37.06 | chexsum | i just use modifier :\ |
| 13:37.11 | chexsum | its always alt though |
| 13:37.19 | Diao | you have to use mod:___ now |
| 13:37.20 | Diao | i think |
| 13:37.28 | kenlyric | do you have the force self-cast setting set to Alt? |
| 13:37.40 | chexsum | it worked before on my old box |
| 13:37.42 | Diao | because it recognizes shift, alt, ctrl, along with lshift/rshift etc |
| 13:37.47 | chexsum | nope |
| 13:38.10 | chexsum | i was self healing myself in zg a long time ago so have never turned that back on lol |
| 13:38.11 | Diao | i dunno |
| 13:38.19 | Diao | i'd just change it to mod:blah |
| 13:38.23 | Diao | cause that tends to work |
| 13:38.35 | greppy | mod: and not modifier: ? |
| 13:38.44 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56786 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Added some SSC and BT trash. |
| 13:39.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:39.15 | Diao | mod: works |
| 13:39.26 | RaydenUni | i wish my guild could run KZ more than once a wee |
| 13:39.28 | RaydenUni | week |
| 13:39.36 | Diao | 3 day reset imo |
| 13:39.37 | Diao | like zg/za |
| 13:39.40 | RaydenUni | we now have attumen and maiden not dead |
| 13:39.54 | RaydenUni | ZA is 3 day reset? |
| 13:40.03 | Kalroth | yes |
| 13:40.07 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 13:40.09 | RaydenUni | i didn't know that |
| 13:40.14 | chexsum | try and form the same group each week and youll clear it in no time |
| 13:40.16 | RaydenUni | KZ is one week and ZA is 3 days |
| 13:40.16 | RaydenUni | odd |
| 13:40.24 | Kalroth | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/raidcalendar/index.html |
| 13:40.35 | RaydenUni | chexsum we raid sunday nights at 10pm PST |
| 13:40.40 | RaydenUni | so we don't have much time :( |
| 13:40.54 | Kalroth | sunday nights at 10pm? |
| 13:40.57 | chexsum | itll take you forever if its only 1 day |
| 13:41.06 | chexsum | def start skipping optional bosses |
| 13:41.06 | RaydenUni | i know |
| 13:41.17 | RaydenUni | well we skipped attumen and maiden today to do curator and chess |
| 13:41.35 | chexsum | itll take about 12 hours to learn kara |
| 13:41.44 | Diao | why start on sundays o_O |
| 13:41.49 | chexsum | we used to do 3x4hr days |
| 13:41.52 | Kalroth | Sweet, ZA resets on christmas day! |
| 13:41.55 | chexsum | fri/sat/sun |
| 13:42.08 | RaydenUni | Diao "that's when we've always done it" from back in the day when there were only 5 people lvl 70 |
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| 13:42.14 | Diao | ah |
| 13:42.19 | chexsum | now its fri/sat but i just pug now since we got a new healer |
| 13:42.22 | Diao | we had that mentality |
| 13:42.23 | RaydenUni | one of my major complaints lately |
| 13:42.30 | RaydenUni | since i'm on EST so i start at 1am |
| 13:42.33 | Diao | but then i started asking people if they could be available earlier |
| 13:42.40 | Diao | so we had more time to learn instances |
| 13:42.43 | RaydenUni | so i take a nap and then wake up so i'm not dead tired for my 8am class |
| 13:42.43 | Kalroth | We raid four days a week, but we're a little further. And also focusing on 25 man raiding. |
| 13:42.45 | Diao | and set a raid time for it |
| 13:42.52 | RaydenUni | well a couple people have some church thing until 10pm on sundays |
| 13:42.58 | Diao | now we only do kara for badges and mostly work on 25s |
| 13:43.03 | Diao | yeah i mean |
| 13:43.04 | RaydenUni | we started really early today, 10:35pm :) |
| 13:43.07 | chexsum | def try and get the first 3 bosses in za more than kara now |
| 13:43.08 | Diao | we checked for other days |
| 13:43.13 | Kalroth | People would rather sit in a church than play WoW? o.O |
| 13:43.15 | chexsum | the loots much better and its faster |
| 13:43.15 | Diao | like tues-sat |
| 13:43.20 | RaydenUni | chexsum do ZA after doing only curator? |
| 13:43.27 | Diao | ZA is much more difficult than kara |
| 13:43.33 | RaydenUni | i've heard the 1st boss isn't too hard |
| 13:43.44 | chexsum | just pot up for za imho |
| 13:43.46 | Kalroth | RaydenUni: You only have 1 day a week? And it starts 10pm? On a sunday? |
| 13:43.55 | chexsum | its worth the expense to gear up |
| 13:44.03 | Diao | first boss is gear check |
| 13:44.08 | Diao | if your tanks aren't both well geared |
| 13:44.10 | Diao | it's very painful |
| 13:44.15 | chexsum | theres priobably videos out |
| 13:44.27 | Diao | it's not hard in execution, but it's definitely a gear check |
| 13:44.33 | Diao | if you can't tank prince you can't tank ZA basically |
| 13:44.35 | chexsum | so get a t5 tank in lol |
| 13:44.35 | Kalroth | Diao: Bull, I've tanked the bear in a mix of blues and karazhan epics :) |
| 13:44.36 | kenlyric | how odd. |
| 13:44.40 | kenlyric | I died during AFK flight. |
| 13:44.47 | kenlyric | but not to a mob :/ |
| 13:44.50 | chexsum | a lot of people will pug it |
| 13:45.01 | Diao | true |
| 13:45.09 | chexsum | 3 day reset makes getting geared tanks/healers easy |
| 13:45.49 | chexsum | ive seen green geared dpsers in ther but you def need nice tanks/heals |
| 13:45.58 | Diao | 3 geared healers, 2 geared tank |
| 13:46.01 | Diao | dps can be whatever |
| 13:46.07 | chexsum | yea |
| 13:46.30 | chexsum | find a mage that knows how to sheep a rogue that can stunlock etc |
| 13:46.30 | Diao | eagle requires a bit of coordination |
| 13:46.38 | Diao | people have to know how to collapse onto tank |
| 13:46.45 | Diao | for the storm thing |
| 13:46.46 | chexsum | its not that bad |
| 13:46.53 | Diao | yea |
| 13:46.56 | Diao | basic intelligence check |
| 13:47.14 | chexsum | i think ill replace my mooncloth robe with the one off the first boss in za |
| 13:47.20 | chexsum | its amazing for stats |
| 13:47.22 | Diao | that robe pisses me off |
| 13:47.27 | Diao | it's dropped all 5 times we've run it |
| 13:47.42 | Diao | so I've given 2 to shadowpriests, 1 to a holy priest, DEd the rest |
| 13:47.59 | Diao | wtb something else dropping :( |
| 13:48.14 | chexsum | ive mainly seen the fury |
| 13:48.28 | chexsum | 0 dros on the robe atm |
| 13:49.56 | Diao | i want zul'jin to die so i can get the jin'rokh even though i have stormherald : |
| 13:49.58 | Diao | :P |
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| 13:50.07 | RaydenUni | <Kalroth> RaydenUni: You only have 1 day a week? And it starts 10pm? On a sunday? <-- seems kind of stupid doesn't it? |
| 13:50.28 | Diao | i'm surprised you can't get 10 people on like a saturday afternoon or friday afternoon |
| 13:50.40 | Kalroth | RaydenUni: Very |
| 13:50.43 | chexsum | probably all out clubbing |
| 13:50.51 | Diao | lol |
| 13:50.58 | RaydenUni | work |
| 13:50.59 | chexsum | l2prioritize! |
| 13:51.02 | Kalroth | We raid mondays, tuesdays, thursdays and sundays. |
| 13:51.03 | RaydenUni | so friday afternoon is out |
| 13:51.13 | RaydenUni | and sat afternoon just seems like a bad time |
| 13:51.14 | Diao | people work at like 6 on a friday? |
| 13:51.17 | Diao | o_o |
| 13:51.17 | chexsum | ive had to give up raiding for shift work now :( |
| 13:51.24 | RaydenUni | well i have social stuff friday night |
| 13:51.36 | RaydenUni | some of the guys are married with kids |
| 13:51.37 | chexsum | might get a social life now too |
| 13:51.39 | Diao | lol |
| 13:51.41 | chexsum | its been a while lol |
| 13:51.42 | RaydenUni | so they are pretty busy before 10pm |
| 13:51.44 | Diao | we've done thurs,sat,sun |
| 13:51.46 | Diao | 5:30pm |
| 13:51.52 | Diao | to accommodate as many people as possible |
| 13:51.59 | RaydenUni | this is one of the reasons i think our guild should merge with another guild |
| 13:52.03 | Diao | thurs we only raid until 7:30 |
| 13:52.05 | chexsum | 8-12 was good for us |
| 13:52.06 | Diao | sat/sun we raid til 9:30 |
| 13:52.09 | RaydenUni | get more people so we have enough to raid a couple nights a week |
| 13:52.15 | Diao | well we have people froma ll around the world |
| 13:52.27 | chexsum | l2disriminate |
| 13:52.35 | Diao | they're friends of ours :( |
| 13:52.38 | chexsum | cut the fat! |
| 13:53.13 | Diao | it's funny |
| 13:53.16 | Diao | we're a US based guild |
| 13:53.28 | Diao | with people from singapore, australia, germany, britain, japan, etc |
| 13:53.30 | Diao | who raid with us |
| 13:53.51 | chexsum | my guikds mostly aussie/californian |
| 13:55.25 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:55.41 | Diao | i just try to accommodate everyone if possible |
| 13:56.11 | Diao | but we do try to get in 10 hours a week of progression raids |
| 13:56.28 | Diao | and people can optionally go to 10 mans whenever they have free time |
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| 13:57.13 | chexsum | my guild just split into 2 last month to try and progress |
| 13:57.18 | chexsum | i dont think itll work |
| 13:57.41 | chexsum | we just dont care that much lol |
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| 13:58.23 | chexsum | our mt is a mother that comes on a few hors a week :\ |
| 13:58.37 | Diao | split? o_O |
| 13:58.43 | Fin | yo |
| 13:58.48 | Diao | hello fin |
| 13:58.58 | Diao | most guilds merge to try progression, rather than split ;p |
| 13:59.07 | chexsum | yea people who wanted ssc/tk etc formed a sister guild |
| 13:59.47 | chexsum | its not elping the old guild out though |
| 13:59.54 | Diao | oh |
| 14:00.03 | Diao | yea we had a problem |
| 14:00.06 | Diao | trying to get into ssc/tk |
| 14:00.12 | Diao | so we mass recruited from /2 |
| 14:00.20 | Diao | cause we had like 15 solid players |
| 14:00.22 | chexsum | my guild was formed for pvping |
| 14:00.28 | Diao | ended up killing a couple bosses |
| 14:00.30 | Diao | then stalling on progression |
| 14:00.36 | chexsum | were the most known pvpers |
| 14:00.43 | Diao | those people we recruited gquit and apped to a higher progressed guild |
| 14:00.58 | Diao | originally we were just a friends-oriented guild that raided for fun |
| 14:01.09 | chexsum | not arena wise though just duking it out in world pvp |
| 14:01.10 | Diao | and now we're going back to that and trying to recruit slowly to fill in the void from people leaving |
| 14:01.39 | chexsum | my guild wentr alt crazy a few months ago |
| 14:01.47 | chexsum | i dont even know half the guild |
| 14:01.58 | Diao | lol |
| 14:02.10 | chexsum | theyre all alts of mains |
| 14:02.16 | Diao | lol |
| 14:02.19 | Diao | no guild notes? |
| 14:02.35 | chexsum | im too lazy to figure out ow to do that |
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| 14:02.55 | chexsum | some people have 10 alts ffs |
| 14:03.22 | chexsum | ive got 2 but sortof gave p on them |
| 14:03.28 | Diao | lol |
| 14:03.33 | Diao | are you a guild officer |
| 14:03.39 | Diao | they're usually the ones who set the guild notes |
| 14:04.02 | chexsum | i missed the rogue class but rolling another rogue didnt help me get the feeling back |
| 14:04.02 | Diao | i require my officers to set a guild note everytime they ginvite someone saying who it is |
| 14:04.02 | Codayus | Our guild has a rule, all alts must have a public note that says "Foo's Alt" |
| 14:04.02 | Diao | and i do the same |
| 14:04.08 | Diao | we just put the main's name in the note |
| 14:04.14 | Diao | so like on my priest |
| 14:04.19 | Diao | it just says "Diao" in the note |
| 14:04.19 | chexsum | about 10% use notes |
| 14:04.41 | chexsum | most of the guild know each other irl but im clueless |
| 14:04.58 | chexsum | too much pvp :\ |
| 14:05.02 | Diao | haha |
| 14:05.44 | Codayus | We have alts in a seperate rank, mains mostly say "Main" (boring, I know) or a joke, or a note if the person changed mains recently... |
| 14:05.53 | Diao | lol |
| 14:05.57 | Diao | yea we have alts in a separate rank as well |
| 14:06.01 | Diao | but they have notes with who their mains are |
| 14:06.20 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 14:06.36 | Codayus | We'll kick people without notes if we can't work out who they are. |
| 14:06.47 | chexsum | we lack organization |
| 14:07.13 | chexsum | i dont even know who the gm is atm - the last one formed the new guild |
| 14:07.23 | Diao | rofl |
| 14:07.26 | Codayus | Okay, that's just.... |
| 14:07.28 | Codayus | ....wow |
| 14:07.30 | Codayus | :-) |
| 14:07.37 | chexsum | old guild banks full of lvl40 crap too atm |
| 14:07.43 | chexsum | deposit only |
| 14:07.50 | chexsum | we suck at organizing things |
| 14:08.03 | Diao | ah |
| 14:08.26 | Codayus | Half our council (including me) are OCD, and can't resist reorganizing the bank at the first sign of clutter. |
| 14:08.30 | Diao | if people put crap in the bank |
| 14:08.35 | Diao | officers tend to take it out |
| 14:08.37 | Diao | and vendor it |
| 14:08.40 | Diao | and then deposit money |
| 14:08.43 | Codayus | And post angry notes to our forums if people deposit stuff in the wrong tab. |
| 14:08.48 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 14:08.54 | Codayus | Same. Well, AH in some cases. |
| 14:08.56 | Diao | yea |
| 14:09.00 | Diao | if it's a nice blue or something |
| 14:09.05 | kenlyric | I'm in a very large casual guild, and people are just dumb with the bank. |
| 14:09.15 | Codayus | Like, I have no idea why we eneded up with 3 stacks of nature resist patches, but wtf, they sell ont the AH... |
| 14:09.17 | kenlyric | one whole column of shirts... |
| 14:09.20 | Diao | rofl |
| 14:09.28 | Diao | things like that are what we vendor :) |
| 14:09.58 | Codayus | 20 stacks of +20 stam food? |
| 14:10.05 | Codayus | Vendor! |
| 14:10.10 | Diao | well |
| 14:10.13 | thul | nooo |
| 14:10.14 | thul | gief to me |
| 14:10.14 | Diao | we tend to use those up on raids |
| 14:10.15 | thul | :-P |
| 14:10.19 | kenlyric | I don't think anything but profession mats should go in there. |
| 14:10.20 | Codayus | 20 stam? |
| 14:10.37 | chexsum | i seen 20 or so primals on the raid bank that i could have used but noone would pass them to me |
| 14:10.46 | chexsum | ended up farming the crap as holy :\ |
| 14:11.00 | Diao | yea 20 stam |
| 14:11.05 | ramoz | omg, heal them to death |
| 14:11.05 | Diao | because we're too lazy to farm up the 30 stam ones |
| 14:11.10 | Codayus | ....ah |
| 14:11.19 | Codayus | Our primary MT enjoys fishing, so... |
| 14:11.26 | chexsum | lol |
| 14:11.28 | Diao | i can't stand fishing.. got it to 173 |
| 14:11.30 | Diao | and gave up |
| 14:11.40 | Codayus | He complains occasionally about having seafood coming out of his ears, and uses a Mr Pinchy every raid... |
| 14:11.40 | chexsum | im at 360ish fishing |
| 14:11.52 | chexsum | i got the detect fish thing the other week |
| 14:12.33 | Diao | yeah i tried to get one of our 375 fishers to do my fishing for me |
| 14:12.38 | Diao | wasn't successful |
| 14:12.51 | kenlyric | I got it 375 and gave up. |
| 14:12.52 | Codayus | Crawfish prices are dropping. |
| 14:13.04 | chexsum | i onl fish pure waters |
| 14:13.08 | Codayus | They're found occasionally in the fish reward from the cooking daily... |
| 14:13.09 | kenlyric | it's an inefficient way to get golden darter. |
| 14:13.13 | Codayus | And on the ZA vendor. :-) |
| 14:13.20 | chexsum | used to fish a crapload of stoneshield pots back in the old time |
| 14:13.40 | kenlyric | it's so hot that the healing food doesn't come from a land-based animal. |
| 14:13.43 | kenlyric | I <3 blizzard |
| 14:14.19 | Diao | lol |
| 14:14.21 | Codayus | kenlyric: One of the +dmg foods doesn't either. |
| 14:14.24 | chexsum | if im shadow ill farm basilisk |
| 14:14.26 | kenlyric | uh |
| 14:14.28 | chexsum | theyre so easy |
| 14:14.35 | Codayus | Fishing gives you the best +heal, best +dmg, best +stam. |
| 14:14.36 | kenlyric | Codayus: you're missing the point then. |
| 14:14.42 | kenlyric | which +damage? |
| 14:14.46 | Codayus | Bluefish |
| 14:14.52 | kenlyric | isn't that +23? |
| 14:14.55 | Codayus | Same as basilisk, so tied for best. |
| 14:14.58 | Codayus | If you want to be picky. |
| 14:14.59 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 14:15.01 | chexsum | basilisk = easy stack in 30m |
| 14:15.03 | kenlyric | you're missing the fucking point |
| 14:15.10 | kenlyric | there's no healer food. |
| 14:15.12 | kenlyric | period. |
| 14:15.17 | kenlyric | that doesn't come from a fish. |
| 14:15.17 | Codayus | No? |
| 14:15.18 | Diao | there's mp5 food only |
| 14:15.22 | Diao | oh |
| 14:15.30 | Codayus | Ah |
| 14:15.34 | chexsum | i just go stam and spirit if i want heal food |
| 14:15.37 | Codayus | I thought your point was a general "fishing rocks" |
| 14:15.47 | kenlyric | but, golden darter is in highland mixed pools, so it's not entirely terrible. |
| 14:15.48 | Codayus | But in that case, theirs no +stam food that doesn't come from fishing. |
| 14:15.51 | Codayus | (20 stam doesn't count). |
| 14:16.00 | kenlyric | sure it does. |
| 14:16.06 | Codayus | :-) |
| 14:16.12 | kenlyric | I'd take a +30 heal food if I didn't have to fish it :) |
| 14:16.41 | chexsum | isnt there +8 mp5 or something ? |
| 14:16.47 | chexsum | thatd be much better than heal |
| 14:16.48 | kenlyric | i said healer food |
| 14:16.53 | Codayus | Make friends with someone who likes fishing, is my advice. :-) |
| 14:17.05 | kenlyric | chexsum: good for pvp. |
| 14:17.13 | Codayus | And no, mp5 food isn't better for healers. And it's ALSO from fishing...so... |
| 14:17.13 | kenlyric | 20 spirit/44 heal is superior. |
| 14:17.49 | chexsum | did food buff get increased time on the patch ? |
| 14:17.50 | kenlyric | I need to get that fish tracking thing so i can find golden darter pools. |
| 14:17.58 | kenlyric | or not get so unlucky with highland fish pools |
| 14:18.12 | kenlyric | just get stacks and stacks of crawdad :/ |
| 14:18.54 | Codayus | Used to be you could sell the crawdad for ~2.5g each, buy fish sticks for < 2g each on my server. |
| 14:18.59 | Codayus | ...no longer. |
| 14:19.13 | kenlyric | yeah. golden darter hit a premium. |
| 14:19.22 | kenlyric | I was hoping to get it out of the daily cooking quest :/ |
| 14:19.43 | kenlyric | mats for fisherman's feast or that stupid hp/mana food |
| 14:19.46 | chexsum | they need fish/land cooking expertise to give 2 of something |
| 14:19.49 | Diao | 20 spirit is better if you're a druid or priest |
| 14:20.00 | Codayus | Cooking specialties would = win |
| 14:20.01 | Diao | i don't think it's better for pal/sham |
| 14:20.12 | kenlyric | Diao: right, I said healer food, not faceroll food. |
| 14:20.18 | Codayus | heh |
| 14:20.22 | Diao | lol |
| 14:20.27 | chexsum | i hate pallys that ask for innervate |
| 14:20.27 | Codayus | Pallies probably prefer the +heal... |
| 14:20.28 | kenlyric | I actually need the buffs :) |
| 14:20.35 | Codayus | Shamans...probably would want the mp5 I suppose? |
| 14:20.40 | chexsum | i abuse the crap out of them for touching anything but fol |
| 14:20.44 | Codayus | Meh, I play a real class, so... |
| 14:20.46 | Codayus | :-D |
| 14:20.47 | Diao | depends on the type of paladin |
| 14:20.48 | MoonWolf | pallies get no innervatse |
| 14:20.56 | MoonWolf | they don't have the spirit to make it any good |
| 14:21.01 | kenlyric | I would kick them from the raid, then the guild, then from life. |
| 14:21.02 | Diao | some like to stack mp5 |
| 14:21.07 | Diao | others like to stack heal/crit |
| 14:21.12 | MoonWolf | innevervate targets are shadow priests, healing classes, myself, mages. |
| 14:21.33 | kenlyric | in my half-karazhan gear, I can't outheal an innervate. |
| 14:21.42 | Diao | and tbh, pallies that spam HL are amazing, if you get to t6 level gear ;) |
| 14:21.45 | chexsum | my priest with 450 spirit trinkets to 750 when theres an innervate and regens a whole bar |
| 14:21.46 | kenlyric | I have tried with mashing holy nova yet. |
| 14:21.52 | Diao | downranked HL > FoL spam |
| 14:21.52 | Codayus | MoonWolf: Sounds right. |
| 14:22.03 | chexsum | pallys get about 2k mana |
| 14:22.05 | MoonWolf | shadowpriest is by far the best investment. |
| 14:22.12 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 14:22.17 | Codayus | As a spriest, I agree 100%. :-) |
| 14:22.27 | MoonWolf | lulz |
| 14:23.17 | kenlyric | as long as i'm in their group, I agree too. |
| 14:23.44 | kenlyric | i like innervates from bear tanks |
| 14:23.49 | chexsum | i use bangle on my spriest so can get to 400 when i trinket |
| 14:23.53 | kenlyric | because you know it means they care. |
| 14:23.59 | MoonWolf | not when they are currently tanking. |
| 14:24.00 | kenlyric | chexsum: I think I hate you. |
| 14:24.01 | chexsum | thats about 5k mana |
| 14:24.05 | MoonWolf | i prefer them to stay in bearform then |
| 14:24.10 | kenlyric | MoonWolf: that's what I mean :) |
| 14:24.28 | chexsum | people who dont use bangle as a priest/druid are so noob imho |
| 14:24.32 | MoonWolf | mana is nice, but the bear not dying is better. |
| 14:24.39 | kenlyric | chexsum: like the poeple who never saw it drop? |
| 14:24.40 | Diao | uh |
| 14:24.51 | kenlyric | every fucking ever |
| 14:24.54 | Diao | can't bears now innervate and shift back into bear like instantly |
| 14:24.56 | MoonWolf | likem e |
| 14:24.56 | Diao | with a macro |
| 14:25.18 | MoonWolf | Diao, semi instantly, there is no global cooldown in between |
| 14:25.19 | chexsum | if its a slow hitting mob its possible |
| 14:25.27 | Diao | because i know in arena |
| 14:25.30 | Diao | i often see druids in bear |
| 14:25.33 | Diao | then suddenly |
| 14:25.33 | MoonWolf | but for a minor amounto of time the server registers you as in human form |
| 14:25.40 | Diao | without them EVER going human |
| 14:25.42 | Diao | i just see the "poof" |
| 14:25.42 | kenlyric | I wouldn't want it on a raid boss, but it's ok in most five mans. |
| 14:25.43 | MoonWolf | if you get a hit in the short timespan... you probably die. |
| 14:25.44 | Diao | and they're in bear again |
| 14:25.46 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56787 10LootWhore/ (. LootWhore.lua LootWhore.toc libs/): |
| 14:25.46 | CIA-12 | LootWhore: Outputs through Sink-1.0 if anyone loots in combat. Only works on the |
| 14:25.46 | CIA-12 | LOOT_OPENED addon event generated by AceEvent-2.0, so people in your raid must |
| 14:25.47 | CIA-12 | have an Ace2 addon. Also adds a Chat output to Sink-1.0 that allows you to route |
| 14:25.47 | CIA-12 | output to Say, Yell, Party, Raid, Officer, Guild, etc. |
| 14:25.49 | Diao | but they have rejuv on |
| 14:25.51 | chexsum | i ahte how druid go invis for a few secs during shapeshift nowadays |
| 14:25.53 | Diao | so i know they shifted out and rejuved |
| 14:25.58 | Diao | it's quite annoying |
| 14:26.05 | Xinhuan | hahaha vhaarr lolol |
| 14:26.07 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 14:26.10 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:26.19 | Diao | druids didn't need auto-unshift/reshift macroed with rejuv :( |
| 14:26.21 | Xinhuan | expoliting ace2 |
| 14:26.23 | Diao | rofl nice addon |
| 14:26.25 | Xinhuan | exploiting |
| 14:26.46 | MoonWolf | its not exploiting |
| 14:26.48 | MoonWolf | its making use off. |
| 14:26.50 | vhaarr | that freaking thing has been in Ace2 forever |
| 14:26.53 | vhaarr | and noone has used it |
| 14:26.56 | Xinhuan | you know what i mean :) |
| 14:26.59 | Codayus | Heh, had to have the MT on the Lynx boss battle rez someone on our first kill. |
| 14:27.07 | Diao | demonstration addon amirite |
| 14:27.07 | Xinhuan | why can't it be removed from aceevent btw? |
| 14:27.26 | MoonWolf | because lootwhore uses it! |
| 14:28.37 | Codayus | I like MoonWolf's logic. |
| 14:29.25 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 14:29.45 | kenlyric | going to need two more days for exalted skyguard and another useless faction completed. |
| 14:29.49 | Diao | lol |
| 14:30.16 | MoonWolf | hey, who doesn't like a netherray ? |
| 14:30.24 | chexsum | grinding annoys me |
| 14:30.41 | kenlyric | I'm thinking about since the flappy wings of the netherdrake are starting to get on my nerves. |
| 14:30.53 | Diao | I need to get a gladiator netherdrake |
| 14:30.58 | Diao | I wonder how long this season is going to be |
| 14:31.03 | Codayus | Grind Shen'dralar faction. |
| 14:31.21 | kenlyric | exalted should give a badge or something. |
| 14:31.27 | chexsum | im burnt out on wow atm |
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| 14:32.30 | chexsum | cant wait to try bioshock for something new |
| 14:33.32 | chexsum | blizzard announced the next patch way too soon for my liking |
| 14:33.34 | Codayus | It's overated. |
| 14:33.46 | Lukian | what 2.4 ? |
| 14:33.57 | chexsum | im basically waiting for that to try and clock the game lol |
| 14:34.00 | Diao | 2.3.2? |
| 14:34.04 | chexsum | wotlk |
| 14:34.10 | Diao | oh expansion |
| 14:34.15 | chexsum | s/patch/.expansion |
| 14:34.17 | Lukian | what diao said :p |
| 14:34.33 | Codayus | Play Simcity Societies instead. My cities are miracles of order and rational planning. |
| 14:34.33 | Diao | afk a bit |
| 14:34.50 | chexsum | ;p |
| 14:35.09 | chexsum | i cant be bothered with things that need skill |
| 14:35.44 | chexsum | ill probably grab some games that are suited to psp style of play |
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| 14:36.32 | chexsum | gotta test out my new comp - wow isnt doing it for me |
| 14:36.40 | RaydenUni | <chexsum> blizzard announced the next patch way too soon for my liking <-- at least 1 year before it's out |
| 14:36.59 | chexsum | yeah theyre so noob |
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| 14:37.32 | chexsum | theres not much motivation to gearing up |
| 14:37.39 | Lukian | indeed |
| 14:38.05 | chexsum | casuals enjoy it more than hardcore players now - its a total flip from lvl 60 wow |
| 14:38.57 | chexsum | i make more golds playing causally now |
| 14:39.06 | chexsum | and golds = satisfaction |
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| 14:44.02 | RaydenUni | i think it's probably better this way |
| 14:44.33 | RaydenUni | unless they change how pvp gear is gone, they will need to up the max level every so often |
| 14:44.52 | RaydenUni | cause it's getting harder and harder to jump into arenas cause everyone else has s2, s3 stuff |
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| 14:45.07 | RaydenUni | but i guess giving out pvp s1 from BG sort of addresses that |
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| 14:47.40 | Xinhuan | you still need ~75 hours to farm 75k honor to buy the non set stuff |
| 14:47.51 | Fin | casual: at hypersonic speeds! |
| 14:47.52 | Xinhuan | then another 100k honor to buy the set stuff |
| 14:47.57 | Xinhuan | so thats 175 hours |
| 14:48.10 | EvilJohn | that's pretty nuts |
| 14:48.15 | Xinhuan | if a casual farms 3 hours of honor a day thats 60 days |
| 14:48.23 | Xinhuan | at 1k per hour |
| 14:49.00 | RaydenUni | well casuals aren't going to compete with high end arena teams anyways |
| 14:49.07 | RaydenUni | how long to get arena gear from arena points? |
| 14:49.10 | EvilJohn | getting 1k per hour seems somewhat hopeful given how bad the BGs are these days |
| 14:49.34 | Xinhuan | thats not really true, i've seen gladiators that are true casuals |
| 14:49.47 | EvilJohn | they got in early |
| 14:49.48 | Xinhuan | just 10 games a week until 2200 rating, then stop for 2 months |
| 14:49.57 | Xinhuan | then on the last week, play 5 hours to get 2400 |
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| 14:53.20 | kenlyric | the only sensible gear per hour spent in pvp is arena. |
| 14:54.27 | thul | well, honor -> s1, then arena -> s2 :-P |
| 14:54.37 | kenlyric | nop |
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| 14:54.55 | krka | do you play for gear or play for fun? |
| 14:54.57 | kenlyric | per time spent, it's better to just go in and fail at arena. |
| 14:55.07 | krka | which game setting gets most fun/hour? |
| 14:55.10 | thul | I'm not sure I agree. |
| 14:55.12 | kenlyric | it';ll take you more weeks, but you spend less time doing it. |
| 14:55.25 | thul | I can get 6k honor with a little time spent in av |
| 14:55.35 | thul | i can do my homework and casually afk in av |
| 14:56.33 | Xinhuan | only if you're horde |
| 14:56.35 | kenlyric | the time spent getting the tokens to buy 5 pieces of s1 gear you can get 4 pieces of s3 gear and 1 piece of s2 gear |
| 14:57.28 | thul | yeah, beacause getting 1900 rating is so easy :-P |
| 14:57.44 | kenlyric | assume an AV lasts 20 minutes, and you get 500 honor from it. You'd nine hours of AV to get enough to buy one piece of gear. |
| 14:57.52 | kenlyric | you don't need 1900 |
| 14:57.57 | thul | s3 gear? |
| 14:58.06 | kenlyric | autoshot your way to 1500 |
| 14:58.14 | thul | s3? :-P |
| 14:58.17 | nevcairiel | only the weapon and shoulder have rating requirements |
| 14:58.22 | kenlyric | it's only 1 piece that has a requirement |
| 14:58.28 | kenlyric | plus weapon |
| 14:58.35 | thul | well, weapons are kind of crucial :-P |
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| 14:58.44 | nevcairiel | get s2 to begin with |
| 14:58.49 | nevcairiel | its not that inferior |
| 14:58.49 | Pkekyo| | mornin' all |
| 14:59.07 | kenlyric | 9 hours of AV for one piece of gear... now how long does a scrub 2v2 take to pound out 10 games a week? |
| 14:59.18 | kenlyric | thul: uh, s2 weapon is better than s1 weapon. |
| 14:59.22 | nevcairiel | when yout got 4 piece s3 and s2 weapon .. you can easily get to the rating for the s3 stuff if you dont suck |
| 15:01.12 | kenlyric | can I eventually buy something useful with these apexis shards? |
| 15:01.14 | thul | :-P |
| 15:01.22 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: mana potions =P |
| 15:01.38 | kenlyric | that work everywhere? |
| 15:01.49 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:01.53 | nevcairiel | for 50 shards |
| 15:02.19 | kenlyric | I guess it's better than letting them rot. |
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| 15:03.35 | Kemayo | Lukian: Pong? |
| 15:03.41 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Pong? |
| 15:03.43 | Lukian | hey babe |
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| 15:05.10 | Kemayo | What can I do for you? |
| 15:05.33 | Lukian | "Flying to <dest>, time remaining (est): <time>" would be sexier than the current copy, and a slight bug (let me up screenshot) |
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| 15:07.28 | Pkekyo| | anyone here using opera? |
| 15:07.41 | Lukian | me |
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| 15:08.19 | Lukian | Kemayo, noticed you screenshot, could be a cart bug, but thought I'd bother you first :) |
| 15:09.25 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: experienced memoryleaks or something lately? |
| 15:09.33 | CIA-12 | 03xionglingfeng * r56788 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 15:09.33 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 15:09.33 | CIA-12 | - Translate the Amani Pass into Chs. |
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| 15:09.38 | Pkekyo| | I find that I need to kill opera every 24hrs or so nowadays |
| 15:09.39 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo|: using opera, but no leaks or w/e |
| 15:09.41 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, with 9.5 builds sure |
| 15:09.53 | Xinhuan | uh Kemayo, its about your Prospector addon |
| 15:09.57 | [dRaCo] | using the stable, though |
| 15:09.58 | Pkekyo| | <--- 9.21 here |
| 15:09.58 | Xinhuan | full of errors ;p |
| 15:10.00 | [dRaCo] | 9.24 |
| 15:10.10 | Xion` | 9.22 works fine too :) |
| 15:10.10 | Lukian | you might wanna update Pkekyo| :p |
| 15:10.17 | Pkekyo| | .24 out yet? |
| 15:10.21 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: At this point I feel compelled to note that I don't have such an addon. :P |
| 15:10.25 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 15:10.26 | Pkekyo| | opera stopped telling me about updates :< |
| 15:10.27 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 15:10.53 | Pkekyo| | I won't experience settings resets on update? I've got like 40 irc chans configed |
| 15:10.57 | Xinhuan | ok my mistake, its Kergoth's addon, not Kemayo :< |
| 15:11.30 | Kemayo | One of the far-too-many people whose names start with a k, I understand. |
| 15:11.44 | Xinhuan | my name starts with X, i like it |
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| 15:12.00 | Kemayo | Lukian: As soon as I see the screenshot, I shall endeavor to tell whether it's a cart bug or one of mine! |
| 15:12.21 | Pkekyo| | [dRaCo]: opera updates still doesn't reset configs? |
| 15:12.40 | [dRaCo] | didnt here |
| 15:12.41 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, that's right |
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| 15:13.09 | Pkekyo| | updated some pieces of software that reset all settings on update, so I've been slightly paranoid ever since :p |
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| 15:13.45 | Pkekyo| | updating...brb, I guess |
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| 15:14.52 | CIA-12 | 03drool * r56789 10gfxToggle2/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:14.52 | CIA-12 | gfxToggle2: |
| 15:14.52 | CIA-12 | - fix Couldn't find CVar named 'gfFixLag' error (old typo) |
| 15:14.52 | CIA-12 | - move localisations into subdir |
| 15:14.52 | CIA-12 | - convert icon to blp |
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| 15:16.58 | CIA-12 | 037destiny * r56790 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: updated koKR localization |
| 15:17.37 | Pkekyo| | updated :) now hopefully I can run opera for another six months uninterrupted :) |
| 15:19.17 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r56791 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: |
| 15:19.17 | CIA-12 | SilverDragon: |
| 15:19.17 | CIA-12 | -Return early in nameplate scanning if WorldFrame doesn't exist (haven't seen problem myself; reported on forums) |
| 15:19.17 | CIA-12 | -Make sure arg of LastSeen is a number before doing math to it. |
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| 15:19.41 | Xinhuan | why would WorldFrame not exist :o |
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| 15:20.07 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I assume if you accidentally try to do something *really* early. |
| 15:20.34 | Lukian | Kemayo, what is your analysis of the screenshot ? :D |
| 15:20.41 | Xinhuan | worldframe is created in FrameXML |
| 15:20.55 | Xinhuan | it must exist before your addons load |
| 15:21.10 | Kemayo | Lukian: I cannot analyse it, for I haven't seen the link to it. >_> |
| 15:21.15 | Xinhuan | WorldFrame.xml |
| 15:22.31 | Lukian | oh yeah SilverDragon has an issue too |
| 15:23.46 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Oooh, the bug report was against an older version and line numbers just happened to match up. |
| 15:23.59 | Xinhuan | heh |
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| 15:26.28 | Kalroth | Bad Xinhuan, bad! |
| 15:26.44 | Xinhuan | i don't even use silverdragon :) |
| 15:27.28 | Kemayo | Lukian: The ToFu one must be Cart -- I can't think of anything I do that would possibly cause that. |
| 15:29.58 | Kemayo | Lukian: The SilverDragon one... it's a bug, but not a bad one. It shouldn't be possible to record two locations for the same rare that close to each other. When did you take the screenshot? |
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| 15:30.43 | Lukian | it's not actually two locations |
| 15:30.50 | Lukian | it's two identical lines in the tooltip |
| 15:32.00 | Kemayo | Hm. I am inclined to blame Cartographer again, just because I don't think I have any control over that stuff. Let me play with it when I'm actually in front of a computer with WoW, though. |
| 15:34.59 | Lukian | hehe |
| 15:36.25 | Kemayo | It's certainly possible that I managed to subtly mess something up with all the changes recently. |
| 15:36.39 | Xinhuan | need help debugging? |
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| 15:37.56 | Xinhuan | i just came to the conclusion that the settings in layout-cache.txt are applied after VARIABLES_LOADED event is over |
| 15:38.23 | RaydenUni | i would like to stir up a discussion |
| 15:38.24 | Xinhuan | because stuff in there overrides my :SetPoint() performed during VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 15:38.36 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56792 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Fix item looted queue. |
| 15:38.48 | RaydenUni | In WoW, each of your characters has a unique identity |
| 15:38.51 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Not right now -- it's not a critical enough bug that I want to go through the hassle of back-and-forth debugging. :D |
| 15:38.53 | RaydenUni | there is nothing in the game to link them |
| 15:38.56 | RaydenUni | discuss |
| 15:38.57 | RaydenUni | :D |
| 15:39.04 | RaydenUni | nah, that's not it |
| 15:39.08 | RaydenUni | should there be any links? |
| 15:39.20 | RaydenUni | in Guild Wars all your characters are the same account |
| 15:39.25 | RaydenUni | you can only join one guild |
| 15:39.40 | RaydenUni | if you add one character as a friend you are effectively adding all of the alts as your friend too |
| 15:39.52 | Xinhuan | blizzard believes in identity protection |
| 15:39.52 | RaydenUni | it even lists the first one you saw next to the currently logged character |
| 15:40.05 | nevcairiel | i would really hate that |
| 15:40.08 | Xinhuan | i.e one character is effectively totally separated from another |
| 15:40.12 | nevcairiel | i like to be able to hide from others on one of my alts |
| 15:40.21 | RaydenUni | now i think one account = one online identity is bad |
| 15:40.32 | RaydenUni | but it would be nice if i could link my alts to my main account |
| 15:40.40 | RaydenUni | so my friends could message me when i'm on my alt |
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| 15:40.52 | RaydenUni | i may be interested in running some heroics, but in the mean time i want to level my druid |
| 15:41.03 | RaydenUni | but you guys make valid point |
| 15:41.10 | RaydenUni | sometimes you don't want to assume a certain identity |
| 15:41.15 | baer_ | is there an addon that counts DOWN the mobs i need to grind tnl? |
| 15:41.31 | EvilJohn | it wouldn't be an isue if the LFG system wasn't totally broken |
| 15:41.36 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUnibut it would be nice if i could link my alts to my main account <---- true, but it should be an option you'd enable yourself, and not forced upon you |
| 15:41.43 | RaydenUni | yep |
| 15:41.59 | Osstia | the LFG system is the real problem |
| 15:42.02 | RaydenUni | baer_ mobinfo will tell you how many mobs you need to kill before you level |
| 15:42.06 | Polarina | How come sell value addons aren't so popular like other addons? |
| 15:42.11 | Osstia | if they had a functional system you wouldn't need to |
| 15:42.12 | RaydenUni | this isn't an issue for finding groups |
| 15:42.15 | RaydenUni | this is an identity issue |
| 15:42.24 | EvilJohn | 4 months later and they still haven't made one as good as Call to Arms |
| 15:42.30 | RaydenUni | what if i just want to chat with my friends but i'm on a new character? |
| 15:42.35 | Kemayo | Alternately, something like CoH's system -- you're signed into chat as your account *and* your character. (So long as you could also sign out if you felt like it.) |
| 15:42.37 | RaydenUni | i have to add all of those people to my friend's list |
| 15:42.57 | Osstia | you can chat without a friends list you know :) |
| 15:43.07 | dylanm | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/FriendsWithBenefits/ |
| 15:43.13 | dylanm | Helps one part of the problem. |
| 15:43.17 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: I just have all my friends list sync'd by AuldLangSyne. :D |
| 15:43.18 | baer_ | RaydenUni: mobinfo hooks into my tooltip? |
| 15:43.31 | RaydenUni | tooltip? i dunno |
| 15:43.39 | RaydenUni | i just know it displays on the mob info hovering tooltip thing |
| 15:43.48 | baer_ | that's the tooltip. :) |
| 15:44.01 | Xinhuan | [12/10 23:42:00] <Polarina> How come sell value addons aren't so popular like other addons? |
| 15:44.02 | RaydenUni | then yes, mobinfo hooks into the tooltip |
| 15:44.15 | Xinhuan | Polarina: because i pick up everything i find and sell, the value is meaningless |
| 15:44.50 | RaydenUni | what is FriendsWithBenefits? |
| 15:44.52 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Sometimes I run out of bag space and have to choose :p |
| 15:45.01 | RaydenUni | this identity thing is tricky |
| 15:45.04 | Pkekyo| | RaydenUni: what you really should've had, is a check-box on the select character screen, with the option "Link to other enabled characters on this server/account" |
| 15:45.10 | Xinhuan | also heaps of addons have sellvalues |
| 15:45.11 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Syncs your friends across characters on the same server. |
| 15:45.13 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It is. Because items you can pick as a reward from a quest usually doesn't sell for the same amount. The prices can, and is often, very different. |
| 15:45.19 | RaydenUni | in some instances i'd like my characters to be "one" |
| 15:45.25 | RaydenUni | but not all |
| 15:45.31 | Xinhuan | Polarina: i DE them, which i pick is meaningless ;p |
| 15:45.41 | Polarina | Xinhuan: DE? |
| 15:45.45 | dylanm | Disenchant. |
| 15:45.46 | Xinhuan | disenchant |
| 15:46.00 | Polarina | Xinhuan: But a lot of people aren't a Enchanter. |
| 15:46.00 | RaydenUni | or what about looking at a guild roster? wouldn't it be nice to know how many people there are? not just characters? |
| 15:46.13 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: /ginfo |
| 15:46.15 | dylanm | Not everyone can do that, but point taken. |
| 15:46.24 | kenlyric | i used to have that need. But now I pretty much know which items are worth more to a vendor, relative to the other quest rewards. |
| 15:46.27 | RaydenUni | what does that do Xinhuan ? |
| 15:46.30 | Xinhuan | try it |
| 15:46.41 | RaydenUni | not logged in |
| 15:46.41 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 15:46.45 | RaydenUni | and it takes a while to start up |
| 15:46.46 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I made tons of gold buying items from AH and then vendor them using a sell value addon. |
| 15:46.52 | kenlyric | armor value counts, plus slot. |
| 15:46.57 | Xinhuan | it'll say "Guild: No MAAM\nGuild created 3-23-2005, 342 players, 161 accounts" |
| 15:47.01 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Don't you choose based on which is more likely to give more valuable mats? |
| 15:47.01 | RaydenUni | it would be nice if you could see a list of mains, and then a drop down of alts |
| 15:47.16 | Xinhuan | dylanm, the general case is weapons > * |
| 15:47.20 | dylanm | Xinhuan: tru |
| 15:47.23 | Xinhuan | the chance is ~20% |
| 15:47.30 | Xinhuan | to get GPEs over arcane dusts |
| 15:47.38 | Xinhuan | its random |
| 15:47.47 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Even on greys the value matters a bit, because it's nice to know which ones to drop first if your bags fill up while you're out questing. |
| 15:48.02 | Xinhuan | yah, but like i said, heaps of addons are able to add sellvalues |
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| 15:48.24 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Yes, but why aren't they as popular as a lot of other addons? |
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| 15:48.37 | Xinhuan | for the reasons i stated |
| 15:48.40 | dylanm | Polarina: What evidence do you have of that? |
| 15:48.42 | Xinhuan | many ppl do not lack bag room |
| 15:48.44 | kenlyric | who says they aren't? |
| 15:48.47 | Xinhuan | many ppl are enchanters |
| 15:48.49 | Polarina | dylanm: Download counts. |
| 15:48.52 | Xinhuan | many ppl don't care |
| 15:49.19 | Xinhuan | many people use addons with multiple functions, like lootlink, which already stores sellvalues |
| 15:49.20 | dylanm | Keep in mind that Auctioneer (well, Informant) gives those. SellFish, Valuation.... |
| 15:49.20 | kenlyric | Polarina: huh? |
| 15:49.26 | kenlyric | informant is pretty huge |
| 15:49.28 | Lukian | Polarina, a) they are already in auctioneer b) the sell value of a quest item doesn't matter much with the amount you earn already |
| 15:49.34 | Xinhuan | yeah, informant, sellfish, etc |
| 15:49.36 | kenlyric | pretty sure lots of folks have informant |
| 15:49.40 | Polarina | Lukian: It does! |
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| 15:49.46 | RaydenUni | i think i use wowecon for it |
| 15:49.53 | RaydenUni | i'm sure i have several mods that display item prices |
| 15:49.54 | dylanm | That too. |
| 15:49.57 | Lukian | Polarina, not to me |
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| 15:50.09 | Polarina | Xinhuan: As far as I remember, the author of SellFish doesn't use it anymore. |
| 15:50.25 | dylanm | Tuller? I think he does. |
| 15:50.27 | Xinhuan | thats not really relevant to the discussion ;p |
| 15:50.33 | dylanm | He just uses ItemPrice-1.0 as his backend now. |
| 15:50.41 | kenlyric | i ditched informant and have itempricetooltip/mendeleev/something else that replaces it. |
| 15:50.42 | dylanm | Because then he doesn't have to parse the armory :) |
| 15:50.50 | Polarina | dylanm: No, he's using Valuation. He told me it himself. |
| 15:51.31 | dylanm | Really? Odd. Thing is, unless something wild changes about the tooltip code SellFish is going to work and be current without any intervention. |
| 15:51.36 | kenlyric | anyway, the point is, auctioneer is popular, so too then are sell price mods. |
| 15:51.49 | Polarina | dylanm: Ask him for yourself. |
| 15:51.50 | Kalroth | wut |
| 15:51.51 | RaydenUni | i hear auctioneer is much faster to scan now |
| 15:51.54 | RaydenUni | like 3 min instead of 12 |
| 15:52.08 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: yeah, but why isn't it instant? |
| 15:52.12 | Polarina | RaydenUni: Because you don't have to wait 5 seconds to go to the next page. :) |
| 15:52.18 | dylanm | Polarina: Just saying, it's not going to stop working anytime soon. I will ask him, though. |
| 15:52.19 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: correct, but not because of auctioneer's algorithm change |
| 15:52.24 | Polarina | kenlyric: Because Blizzard disabled that functionality on their servers. |
| 15:52.26 | RaydenUni | i heard blizzard changed something |
| 15:52.34 | kenlyric | Polarina: i know :\ |
| 15:52.36 | Xinhuan | its because blizzard reduced the time per query from 5 secs to 2 secs |
| 15:52.37 | dylanm | Yeah. Gotta wait until they fix that business... |
| 15:52.47 | RaydenUni | blizzard should make AH information available via a web api |
| 15:52.47 | Xinhuan | so you can go 60% faster now |
| 15:52.48 | dylanm | I just use Baud Auction. |
| 15:52.54 | dylanm | Does everything I want tbh |
| 15:53.04 | Xinhuan | by querying a page once every 2 secs instead of 5 secs |
| 15:53.11 | Osstia | completely off-topic here, but has anyone seen anything official about the mote clouds disappearing/ |
| 15:53.20 | Xinhuan | again, i stress its faster because blizzard allows it |
| 15:53.21 | Polarina | Osstia: Yes. |
| 15:53.28 | Xinhuan | not because of any algo change |
| 15:54.15 | Kemayo | Polarina: For what it's worth, svn logs indicate that Tuller has been working on SellFish recently, so I'd assume he still uses it |
| 15:54.34 | Polarina | Kemayo: What was the last time he commited something? |
| 15:54.41 | Kemayo | November 25th. |
| 15:54.55 | Polarina | Kemayo: Just ask him for yourself. :) |
| 15:55.14 | Xinhuan | does it matter? this sounds like petty addon rivalry to me ;) |
| 15:55.18 | Kemayo | This would require me to care. |
| 15:56.51 | dylanm | Polarina: Valuation doesn't use ItemPriceLib? Interesting. What are your reasons for generating the stuff yourself? |
| 15:57.00 | dylanm | (This is not criticism. I had always assumed otherwise, is all.) |
| 15:58.17 | Polarina | dylanm: Because I'm using a better compression algorithm, and is more updated. |
| 15:58.44 | RaydenUni | it's good there are choices |
| 15:59.29 | Xinhuan | how much better is a better compression algorithm? |
| 15:59.59 | Polarina | Xinhuan: About 20 KiB less memory usage. |
| 16:00.31 | Xinhuan | not to sound rude, but i could care less about 20 kb of ram lol |
| 16:00.53 | Polarina | But it's very fast. |
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| 16:01.30 | Xinhuan | doesn't negate my point |
| 16:01.32 | dylanm | I'm always curious as to how one selects such a thing. |
| 16:01.40 | Polarina | Xinhuan: ? |
| 16:02.01 | Xinhuan | that few people would care about as little difference as "20 KiB" of ram |
| 16:02.28 | Polarina | Probably. |
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| 16:03.24 | RaydenUni | dylanm selects what thing? |
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| 16:03.46 | dylanm | A method of compression. |
| 16:04.03 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 16:04.10 | Xinhuan | who here, would use an addon because it uses 20 kb less memory than another one? raise up your hand please! |
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| 16:04.15 | RaydenUni | you look at the tradeoffs of speed, complexity, memory size, etc |
| 16:04.45 | Guardix | if it loads faster, yes ;) |
| 16:04.48 | RaydenUni | there are many other features way more important than 20kb |
| 16:05.06 | Polarina | Memory usage is not my excuse for not implementing features. |
| 16:05.08 | RaydenUni | Guardix he didn't say faster, he said 20kib les. which has nothing to do with speed |
| 16:05.22 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: If presented with two addons identical in all ways apart from one using less memory, I would choose the one with less memory. Otherwise it comes down to features. |
| 16:05.24 | CIA-12 | 03mok * r56793 10xchar/paperdoll.lua: |
| 16:05.24 | CIA-12 | xchar: |
| 16:05.24 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.35 | Xinhuan | kemayo, for me, i would look at a mods features, how often it updates, author support, user interface, etc |
| 16:05.36 | thul | i would choose cheese. |
| 16:05.41 | Xinhuan | memory is rarely a concern for me |
| 16:05.55 | thul | VIER |
| 16:05.56 | thul | FUNF |
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| 16:05.57 | RaydenUni | unless a mod is using a lot of memory, or seems to be really inefficient, i don't care |
| 16:05.58 | thul | SEX |
| 16:06.00 | RaydenUni | i have 2gb of ram |
| 16:06.07 | Xinhuan | also, ease of update |
| 16:06.22 | Polarina | My addon is updateable with WAU. |
| 16:06.44 | Xinhuan | if for eg, sellfish uses 20kb more memory, but is updatable with WAU but valuation isn't (it didn't used to be), i would use 20 kb more :) |
| 16:06.58 | kenlyric | I'm confused why Xinhuan needs to complicated reason for someone wanting to write an addon. |
| 16:07.09 | dylanm | RaydenUni: Well obviously that's what one looks at. But to weigh all of those things isn't exactly simple. |
| 16:07.12 | Xinhuan | i'm not kenlyric |
| 16:07.18 | kenlyric | that's what's your point? |
| 16:07.28 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 16:07.34 | Xinhuan | i'm pointing out that Polarina's "20 kb less" is overhyped, almost nobody cares |
| 16:07.42 | RaydenUni | i agree with Xinhuan |
| 16:07.45 | RaydenUni | discussion over |
| 16:07.46 | Xinhuan | that is my point |
| 16:07.58 | kenlyric | I don't think he hyped it. |
| 16:08.02 | RaydenUni | <Xinhuan> memory is rarely a concern for me <Xinhuan> i'm not kenlyric |
| 16:08.03 | Polarina | Xinhuan: You asked how much better is that compression algorithm. It's not my reason why someone should use my addon. |
| 16:08.08 | kenlyric | someone asked why he wrote the mod. He explained. |
| 16:08.25 | Xinhuan | ah, sorry about the misintepretation then |
| 16:08.49 | RaydenUni | we're definately just arguing to argue now |
| 16:08.54 | Xinhuan | i apologise |
| 16:09.01 | Polarina | No problem. |
| 16:09.11 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 16:09.11 | purl | well, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
| 16:10.01 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.19 | Xinhuan | -.- |
| 16:10.29 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: or a basic understanding of English... |
| 16:10.42 | kenlyric | EITHER WORKS! |
| 16:10.50 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: All included in my "identical in all ways" disclaimer. :D |
| 16:11.53 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 16:12.09 | RaydenUni | basic english? |
| 16:12.21 | RaydenUni | i now feel dumb for not understanding your meaning |
| 16:12.21 | Xinhuan | here's another one :) |
| 16:12.28 | Polarina | I would also consider the amount of bugs that have been seen in the history of the addon.. |
| 16:13.10 | Xinhuan | if Polarina's algorithm is better, why don't we rewrite itemprice-1.0 to use the better method? |
| 16:13.21 | RaydenUni | too much work |
| 16:13.29 | RaydenUni | for too little benefit |
| 16:13.31 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Good question. |
| 16:13.39 | RaydenUni | the reason people don't write perfect code |
| 16:13.45 | Polarina | RaydenUni: It's not much work, it's actually trivial. |
| 16:13.48 | Xinhuan | you could discuss this |
| 16:13.50 | RaydenUni | well then why not |
| 16:13.56 | Xinhuan | and offer to help rewrite it |
| 16:14.02 | RaydenUni | yeah but i don't know much about this topic or care really :P |
| 16:14.15 | RaydenUni | but i guess this is a channel on mod authoring |
| 16:14.44 | kenlyric | woot, evil omen defeated! |
| 16:15.10 | RaydenUni | so there is a guy in my guild who doesn't run Omen because "he can't figure out how to install mods" |
| 16:15.19 | dylanm | Next you must slay chess dragon. |
| 16:15.21 | Xinhuan | gkick |
| 16:15.27 | kenlyric | lifekick |
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| 16:15.52 | RaydenUni | the guild leader's response? "he seems to dps just fine without it, perhaps you should run without any mods to improve your skills" |
| 16:16.17 | kenlyric | gquit |
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| 16:16.19 | Xinhuan | just wait for some agro sensitive fights |
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| 16:16.32 | Xinhuan | eg. gruul, void reaver, etc |
| 16:16.39 | kenlyric | "dps just fine" is code for fail. |
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| 16:16.56 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:17.16 | woden | hello there i'm having an issue with a fubar plug and am looking for some help |
| 16:17.18 | RaydenUni | the thing is the guild is all friends |
| 16:17.18 | sica | :( I overaggro'ed on void reaver once and wiped the raid |
| 16:17.19 | Codayus | He should be fine in Kara. If he sucks enough at DPSing, he may be "fine" anywhere, for a value of "fine" which means "suck". :-) |
| 16:17.22 | kenlyric | and hey, if you're not limited by threat, then gratz. But those that are would appreciate it. |
| 16:17.24 | Kemayo | "he can't figure out how to install mods" is grounds for /gkick on basis of being unable to follow extremely simple instructions. |
| 16:17.44 | Kemayo | Ah, social friends guild. Alas. |
| 16:17.54 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 16:17.59 | RaydenUni | i'm beginning to get tired of it |
| 16:18.02 | kenlyric | this is why I was never in a guild wiht my friends., |
| 16:18.04 | RaydenUni | i want to run with some more seirous people |
| 16:18.07 | Xinhuan | woden, go on |
| 16:18.27 | woden | Basically I installed battlegroundFu but it was not working. Didn't have the usual options for plugin |
| 16:18.40 | woden | looked in the bug sack and sorry a library mentioned glory2.0 so installed that |
| 16:18.45 | woden | still have however no success |
| 16:18.46 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni, you only have 2 choices: 1. find a more serious guild 2. convince the guild leader to become a more serious guild, have a vision |
| 16:18.52 | woden | i have an error now in bug sack but not sure what it means |
| 16:19.01 | RaydenUni | i'm trying to put ideas out for merging with another guild |
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| 16:19.08 | Xinhuan | what is the error woden? |
| 16:19.10 | RaydenUni | get some critical mass to run more than KZ once a week |
| 16:19.13 | woden | [2007/12/10 16:14:17-2392-x1]: FuBar_BattlegroundFu-2.0.\BattlegroundFu.lua:32: Cannot find a library instance of Glory-2.0. |
| 16:19.13 | woden | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:516: in function `AceLibrary' |
| 16:19.13 | woden | FuBar_BattlegroundFu-2.0.\BattlegroundFu.lua:32: in main chunk |
| 16:19.13 | woden | <in C code>: ? |
| 16:19.25 | Xinhuan | how did you install battlegroundsFu? |
| 16:19.33 | Xinhuan | where did you download it from? |
| 16:19.34 | woden | i can see the glory library in my master control panel |
| 16:19.36 | woden | wau2 |
| 16:19.53 | woden | i got glory from wau2 also then got it directly from wowace |
| 16:20.10 | Xinhuan | glory2.0 should be installed as "GloryLib" |
| 16:20.24 | Xinhuan | did you restart wow.exe fully? |
| 16:20.28 | Xinhuan | when you installed glory |
| 16:20.29 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56794 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Shakes the screen by default when you hover a Flask in your inventory or action bar. |
| 16:20.53 | woden | it is installed as GloryLib yes and I have restarted fully |
| 16:20.56 | woden | i'll try again just in case |
| 16:21.04 | vhaarr_ | mmm .. fluffly |
| 16:21.04 | Xinhuan | woden, type /glory |
| 16:21.06 | Xinhuan | in game |
| 16:21.19 | Xinhuan | does anything show up? |
| 16:21.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.43 | woden | just logging back in |
| 16:22.04 | Xinhuan | whats the purpose of a shaking screen on a flask? o_O |
| 16:22.35 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: so that if you really mean to use that mana potion on the side of it instead, you'll have some warning before right clicking |
| 16:22.36 | woden | nothing showing up on /glory |
| 16:22.37 | woden | hmm |
| 16:22.44 | Xinhuan | oh so, like a warning! do not right click this on accident! message? |
| 16:22.51 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:22.52 | vhaarr | right |
| 16:22.55 | Xinhuan | woden, means you did not install it properly |
| 16:22.56 | Codayus | That's awesome. |
| 16:23.02 | woden | ah missing something then |
| 16:23.22 | Xinhuan | just go files.wowace.com |
| 16:23.35 | Xinhuan | and download battlegroundsfu and unzip it manually |
| 16:24.07 | Xinhuan | alternatively, you need to tell WAU2 to "automatically download and install dependencies" |
| 16:24.15 | Xinhuan | when you install bgFu |
| 16:25.30 | woden | hmm have it set to auto install dependancies atm not sure what's up with that |
| 16:25.51 | Xinhuan | do you install with or without externals set? |
| 16:26.33 | woden | [2007/12/10 16:14:17-2392-x1]: FuBar_BattlegroundFu-2.0.\BattlegroundFu.lua:32: Cannot find a library instance of Glory-2.0. |
| 16:26.34 | woden | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:516: in function `AceLibrary' |
| 16:26.34 | woden | FuBar_BattlegroundFu-2.0.\BattlegroundFu.lua:32: in main chunk |
| 16:26.34 | woden | <in C code>: ? |
| 16:26.36 | woden | woops |
| 16:26.50 | woden | I am not sure sorry |
| 16:27.07 | Xinhuan | alright just install bgfu manually then |
| 16:27.12 | kergoth | Xinhuan: prospector issue? |
| 16:27.16 | Xinhuan | download the zip manually |
| 16:27.19 | Xinhuan | yeah kergoth |
| 16:27.25 | Xinhuan | first... |
| 16:27.26 | woden | In the general tab it says i get it from http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml |
| 16:27.38 | Xinhuan | if you alt-drag the button, it errors |
| 16:27.44 | kergoth | err |
| 16:27.48 | kergoth | what's the error? |
| 16:27.52 | Xinhuan | on line 315 |
| 16:27.53 | Xinhuan | db.profile.scale = f:GetScale() |
| 16:27.58 | Xinhuan | f is nil |
| 16:28.08 | kergoth | damnit, i'd swear i fixed that |
| 16:28.10 | kergoth | grr |
| 16:28.20 | kergoth | ahh, i bet i forgot toc ommit it |
| 16:28.22 | kergoth | i hate it when i do that |
| 16:28.44 | Xinhuan | secondly |
| 16:28.49 | Xinhuan | on line 209: self:HideButton() |
| 16:29.04 | Xinhuan | you can't hide the button if you tested true |
| 16:29.06 | Xinhuan | for |
| 16:29.07 | Xinhuan | if InCombatLockdown() then |
| 16:29.09 | Xinhuan | on line 208 |
| 16:29.11 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:29.33 | kergoth | ah right, can't :Hide(), have to mess with alpha right? |
| 16:29.48 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 16:29.50 | Xinhuan | just hide the button on PLAYER_REGEN_DISBLED |
| 16:29.53 | Xinhuan | not a big deal |
| 16:30.09 | Xinhuan | 3rd |
| 16:30.14 | Xinhuan | because you use |
| 16:30.15 | Xinhuan | button:SetAttribute("macrotext1", "/cast "..L["Prospecting"].."\n/use "..bag.." "..slot) |
| 16:30.29 | Xinhuan | if i have the bank open, and i press the button twice |
| 16:30.43 | Xinhuan | the 2nd press will move the stack into the bank |
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| 16:30.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:30.50 | Xinhuan | for obvious reasons |
| 16:30.51 | kergoth | i fixed that in git |
| 16:30.59 | woden | xinhuan : have installed the direct battlegroundFu |
| 16:31.01 | kergoth | to use target-bag and target-slot with type1=spell |
| 16:31.03 | kergoth | instead of using a macro |
| 16:31.06 | woden | seems to have all the libraries built in already |
| 16:31.12 | woden | but still not working same error |
| 16:31.16 | kergoth | i'll fix the isues you pointed out and release it |
| 16:31.18 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 16:31.23 | Xinhuan | i'll check the zip, brb |
| 16:31.25 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56795 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Flash: Minor cleanups. |
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| 16:31.39 | woden | i'll get a screen shot of the error directly incase i'm missing something |
| 16:32.04 | Droolio | woden: does the embeds.xml include the libs tho? |
| 16:32.37 | Xinhuan | bgfu doesn't use embeds.xml |
| 16:32.45 | Xinhuan | it lists all of them in the toc directly |
| 16:33.01 | Xinhuan | lib\Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua |
| 16:33.04 | Xinhuan | its listed |
| 16:33.08 | Xinhuan | looks alright to me |
| 16:33.14 | kergoth | Xinhuan: actually, looks like setbutton will never be called in combat, cause the bag scan will never be done in combat, and it will rescan after the fight ends, so i can just remove that bit of code |
| 16:33.21 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56796 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: Removed a strategy comment. |
| 16:33.43 | Xinhuan | kergoth, why don't you just inline that function then |
| 16:34.02 | Xinhuan | you only called it in exactly one place |
| 16:34.32 | kergoth | aye, i suppose i will. this was based on ammo's locksmith addon, so inherited his layout |
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| 16:34.46 | kergoth | (locksmith pops up a button when theres a box to be picked) |
| 16:35.25 | Xinhuan | ya i used that before |
| 16:35.36 | Xinhuan | i always wanted to make oen for enchanting |
| 16:35.54 | Xinhuan | when ppl put in an enchtable item, popup a button wiht a list of enchants for that slot |
| 16:36.07 | Xinhuan | but i never got around to doing it |
| 16:36.15 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 16:36.17 | kergoth | thatd be pretty cool, a real timesaver |
| 16:36.25 | Xinhuan | ammo make it pls! :)) |
| 16:36.34 | [Ammo] | I have little time :p |
| 16:36.48 | woden | xinhuan : here is the full error http://wow.dataiswoden.eu/images/bgfu.jpg |
| 16:36.48 | [Ammo] | but I did give kergoth my new CrowBar stuff :) |
| 16:36.59 | [Ammo] | I want to make crowbar and locksmith into one addon |
| 16:37.04 | [Ammo] | with a popupbar |
| 16:37.07 | woden | and here is the glory file path http://wow.dataiswoden.eu/images/glorypath.jpg |
| 16:37.10 | [Ammo] | so you can select which item to open/unlock |
| 16:37.19 | [Ammo] | clicking the button will still just do the first one and loop through it all |
| 16:37.26 | [Ammo] | doing one for enchants is a good idea |
| 16:37.28 | kergoth | though i'm not using it, i'm using openall, some addon some guy did to automatically loot boxes.. can get annoying, since it keeps popping up after each time it scans my bags though :P |
| 16:37.32 | [Ammo] | maybe even with a reagent check |
| 16:37.48 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:38.10 | [Ammo] | good idea on that enchant trade popup |
| 16:38.13 | Xinhuan | well woden, all the error says is that glory isn't loaded |
| 16:38.19 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 16:38.24 | Xinhuan | you can verify this with /glory |
| 16:38.29 | CIA-12 | 03bigzero * r56797 10AutoProfitX/ (AutoProfitX.lua AutoProfitX.xml): |
| 16:38.29 | CIA-12 | AutoProfitX: |
| 16:38.29 | CIA-12 | - fixed button spin |
| 16:38.29 | CIA-12 | - changed MercantFrame.IsShown() to MerchantFrame.IsVisible()...should work better. |
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| 16:39.07 | Xinhuan | try downloading GloryLib separately from files.wowace.com and install that |
| 16:39.12 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't work, them im stumped |
| 16:39.20 | woden | ok wil do ty for your help xinhuan |
| 16:39.30 | woden | if all else fails i'll use dbm for bg's |
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| 16:40.37 | Xinhuan | the popup should only list enchants that the person can cast though, so it'll have to do some sort of tradeskill scanning |
| 16:40.42 | Xinhuan | not that trivial |
| 16:40.46 | Xinhuan | to write |
| 16:41.10 | Xinhuan | which is why i never really got to it |
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| 16:42.36 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: pretty easily done |
| 16:42.59 | [Ammo] | since the filters and all are there |
| 16:43.00 | Xinhuan | yeah, but you know what i mean, it isn't a 30 minute copy paste job ;p |
| 16:46.40 | cncfanatics | if it takes more then 30 minutes, it ain't for Xinhuan ! |
| 16:49.21 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r56798 10FlexBar2/Button/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: new command, /fb ring |
| 16:49.44 | Xinhuan | what does that do? |
| 16:53.57 | cncfanatics | kill Xynhuan |
| 16:54.34 | Gagorian | No, it's Xynhuan, your evil twin brother. |
| 16:54.55 | Gagorian | Or wait, maybe you're the evil one. |
| 16:55.02 | [Ammo] | hmm xinhuan indeed not 30 mins |
| 16:55.09 | [Ammo] | I think it's going to take 50 |
| 16:55.10 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 16:55.11 | Gagorian | Who has the goatee? I forget! |
| 16:55.16 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 16:55.36 | [Ammo] | and mainly becuase I suck at override stuff ;) |
| 16:57.58 | Kuja^ | uhmn, who broke Glory-2.0? :O |
| 16:58.09 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 16:58.23 | Kuja^ | http://ace.pastey.net/78781 |
| 16:58.28 | Xinhuan | [12/10 23:16:51] <+CIA-35> 7destiny * r56790 GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: updated koKR localization |
| 16:58.34 | Kuja^ | ahaha... |
| 16:58.38 | Kuja^ | ok then :D |
| 16:58.45 | |Stan| | Korean invasion again |
| 16:58.59 | Xinhuan | i'll check it out sigh |
| 16:59.10 | Kuja^ | thanks |
| 16:59.33 | woden | oh maybe thats related to my issue |
| 16:59.36 | Kuja^ | woden: btw, that should be the error you are getting actually... |
| 16:59.40 | Kuja^ | yeah :) |
| 16:59.44 | woden | it is probably the one before hand |
| 16:59.49 | Kuja^ | it is |
| 16:59.53 | woden | i was recall something like that but i was only looking at the bgfu one |
| 17:00.26 | woden | i have gone back to wau1 on recommendation and friend has explained the with without externals thing also! |
| 17:00.34 | woden | i like its clean up the wtf feature |
| 17:00.51 | Xinhuan | i think i see the error in it |
| 17:00.52 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:01.14 | Xinhuan | line 342: ["알카트ë¼ì¦ˆ"] = "PvP",, |
| 17:01.16 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 17:01.34 | |Stan| | lol |
| 17:01.43 | Xinhuan | brb, verifying that that is the cause first |
| 17:01.51 | vhaarr | of course it is, just fix it |
| 17:02.03 | Xinhuan | fish is slow, i want to see if there's more than 1 error |
| 17:02.27 | kergoth | Xinhuan: whenever you have a moment, could you test the snapshot zip for http://git.kergoth.com/wow/Prospector/commit/?id=1aace9a2587bf045114020e0acd0012de5b53411 ? at work, want to make sure nothing well all explodey. |
| 17:04.14 | Xinhuan | FishEye was unable to process your request. |
| 17:04.14 | Xinhuan | com.cenqua.fisheye.rep.x |
| 17:04.16 | Xinhuan | nice |
| 17:04.26 | Xinhuan | PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua': Could not resolve hostname `svn.wowace.com': Host not found (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 17:06.18 | cncfanatics | cool |
| 17:07.03 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56799 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: Remove extra comma that broke GloryLib. |
| 17:07.10 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:07.23 | RaydenUni | dangit |
| 17:07.24 | Xinhuan | fish couldn't find it, but the svn can |
| 17:07.32 | RaydenUni | i can't find this blog post on "family guilds" |
| 17:07.57 | RaydenUni | and why you should quit them |
| 17:07.58 | RaydenUni | grr |
| 17:07.59 | Xinhuan | woden, the glorylib update won't go live until 20 minutes later |
| 17:08.11 | Xinhuan | at least, for WAU anyway |
| 17:08.25 | woden | ok cheers mate |
| 17:08.48 | Xinhuan | someone kill translators pls |
| 17:09.27 | baer_ | Xinhuan: i'll do it. |
| 17:09.36 | kergoth | wtb luac checks on commit |
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| 17:13.27 | Xinhuan | hmm kergoth, i'll have to buy some ore to test |
| 17:13.54 | kergoth | hehe, no rush, i can mess with it when i get home |
| 17:17.09 | Xinhuan | tested, issues seems fixed |
| 17:17.37 | kergoth | "THIS time it really is fixed. I mean, how many times can we |
| 17:17.38 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.39 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.40 | kergoth | - Linus Torvalds" |
| 17:17.42 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
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| 17:18.18 | Osstia | but linus also has a penguin fetish, so do we really wanna trust him? |
| 17:18.40 | Xinhuan | is the addon active only if i have JC? |
| 17:19.57 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r56800 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: tweaks |
| 17:20.59 | Xinhuan | lines 87/88 are useless |
| 17:21.09 | Xinhuan | or are they? |
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| 17:21.21 | Xinhuan | hmm let me read |
| 17:22.06 | Xinhuan | you have |
| 17:22.07 | Xinhuan | self:UnregisterEvent("BANKFRAME_OPENED") |
| 17:22.07 | Xinhuan | self:UnregisterEvent("BANKFRAME_CLOSED") |
| 17:22.18 | Xinhuan | but you never registered them in the first place anywhere |
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| 17:24.18 | Xinhuan | also, the positioning code of 50 lines can be reduced to like 4 lines |
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| 17:25.39 | Xinhuan | the entire GetPoints(frame) function is the default bevahior of :GetPoint() now after a :StopMovingOrSizing() call |
| 17:25.48 | Xinhuan | so its unnecessary |
| 17:27.54 | Xinhuan | so addon:SavePosition() can simply be rewritten as a single line: |
| 17:27.59 | Xinhuan | db.profile.anchor, _, _, db.profile.x, db.profile.y = self.button:GetPoint() |
| 17:28.52 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r56801 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: another tweak |
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| 17:32.01 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56802 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: BasicMinimap: bugfix |
| 17:33.20 | kergoth | Xinhuan: heh, thanks. the bank stuff was a remnant of when I was trying to kill the BAG_UPDATE bag scanning. I started using the loot messages, but then there's no way to pick up moving something from bank to inventory or vise versa, still need to use the event, was just more trouble than its worth |
| 17:33.35 | kergoth | didnt realize :GetPoint() acted that way, that's nice, when did they add that? |
| 17:33.43 | Xinhuan | since 2.1 |
| 17:34.00 | Xinhuan | they changed the default behavior for StartMoving() |
| 17:34.22 | Xinhuan | so that the default ui now picks the clostest logical anchor point out of the 9 points |
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| 17:34.28 | Xinhuan | closest |
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| 17:38.49 | cncfanatics | and thats a damn anoying behaviour |
| 17:38.52 | cncfanatics | when you don't want it |
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| 17:39.21 | Xinhuan | the purpose behind it is so that when you change screen resolution |
| 17:39.36 | Xinhuan | it doesn' go offscreen |
| 17:39.44 | Xinhuan | with a "smart anchor" |
| 17:41.16 | Varazir[NA] | I have some questions about autobar |
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| 17:41.27 | Xinhuan | i'll agree it can be annoying since one my frames has a variable size |
| 17:41.35 | Xinhuan | and it starts to grow in different directions |
| 17:41.36 | Varazir[NA] | How can I make my pet button stay on mend |
| 17:41.46 | Xinhuan | depending on that "anchor" |
| 17:45.42 | kergoth | Xinhuan: shouldnt be hard to adapt to handle it though, and the smart behavior is the common case.. |
| 17:46.43 | Xinhuan | oh its annoying, you have to convert the anchor, say its anchored to "CENTER" |
| 17:47.01 | Xinhuan | to change it to TOPLEFT, would have to GetTop() and GetLeft() |
| 17:47.03 | Xinhuan | and do some math |
| 17:47.15 | Xinhuan | and reanchor |
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| 17:52.03 | kergoth | Xinhuan: would be cool if there was an argument to startmoving to change that behavior, couldnt be hard for them to implement |
| 17:52.04 | kergoth | heh |
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| 17:52.34 | Xinhuan | cbf posting on cogwheel's suggestions thread |
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| 18:04.11 | _rane | hmm, i wonder if something wrong with Grid.. sometimes it shows my own party twice |
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| 18:04.40 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56804 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: BasicMinimap: ordering tweak |
| 18:04.40 | Polarina | It would be good if a addon uses the SendAddonMessage() API when ChatTrottleLib is installed, it would actually throttle the data with the lowest priority (Bulk) instead of having it go straight through. |
| 18:04.44 | charon | _rane: it has a "Show Party in Raid" setting |
| 18:05.24 | _rane | i have it on |
| 18:05.43 | _rane | if i disable it, sometimes i won't see my own party in the grid |
| 18:07.56 | charon | hm... have you double-checked the raid size? you need to set it manually |
| 18:08.00 | Polarina | Anyone agrees with me? |
| 18:08.06 | _rane | charon: raid size? |
| 18:08.08 | chexsum | blow = good movie |
| 18:08.20 | _rane | raid layout? |
| 18:09.30 | _rane | i have 15 man raid |
| 18:09.54 | _rane | so i'm using group by 15 |
| 18:10.01 | _rane | i don't know if that's correct |
| 18:10.20 | baer_ | correct. |
| 18:10.43 | baer_ | you see grp#1 - grp#3 |
| 18:10.53 | charon | _rane: yes that setting and it does seem to be correct. no further ideas :( |
| 18:10.56 | _rane | i want to see my own party in the raid grid, but only once |
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| 18:11.43 | baer_ | skip it, "party in raid" means you have you'll see your party two times. |
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| 18:19.13 | RaydenUni | when does wowjutsu update? |
| 18:20.18 | kenlyric | it'd be something to have grid offer a highlight option for your party (assuming first that you're doing a class sort and not a party sort in the first place) |
| 18:20.25 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: when thier server isn't crashing |
| 18:20.40 | RaydenUni | cause my guild downed 3 new "bosses" last night in KZ so we should show up on their list now :D |
| 18:20.48 | RaydenUni | but i know they are on a weekly schedule |
| 18:21.13 | NivFreak | they were moving servers |
| 18:21.18 | NivFreak | and updates were lagging bad |
| 18:23.31 | dylanm | Also, they depend on the armory for updates. Imagine how fun that is. |
| 18:24.03 | Korben | hey guys you remeber a mp3 runing around the internet about a guy talking on vent about his GF been a doc and haveing a kid going mental that played wow to ? |
| 18:24.15 | _rane | yeah |
| 18:24.16 | NivFreak | dylanm: yea, no kidding |
| 18:24.34 | Korben | _rane remeber what it was called or where i can find it ? |
| 18:24.45 | _rane | not really |
| 18:24.53 | _rane | that was long time ago |
| 18:25.16 | Korben | yea i know i lost my some where :P |
| 18:25.41 | dylanm | It's okay. |
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| 18:40.21 | baer_ | hmm... wasn't there a possibility to let flight timers go thru quartz? |
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| 18:40.39 | kergoth | baer_: yes |
| 18:41.08 | baer_ | kergoth: i guess i need some other additonal addon then? |
| 18:42.06 | kergoth | yeah, inflight, fubar_tofu, whatever. they do the actual flight timing and stuff, quartz can just display a timer |
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| 18:51.04 | kergoth | cncfanatics: what's /fb ring do, new button layout? |
| 18:53.08 | woden | Question: If you have a FuBar which varies in width sometimes. How do you ensure it grows out to the right |
| 18:53.13 | woden | instead of pushing stuff off to the left |
| 18:53.16 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r56805 10Enhancer/ (10 files in 5 dirs): |
| 18:53.16 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 18:53.16 | CIA-12 | - German localization thanks to Keadrish - Nathrezim.eu |
| 18:53.16 | CIA-12 | - Ugly hack to get bonuses on food (ripped from wowhead) in order to calculate AEP on flasks/pots/food. Just delete Enhancer_EquivalencePoints/EPConsumables.lua if you don't like it all data is stored in there. |
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| 18:54.30 | Flash-Get | Wazzzaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 18:56.11 | Flash-Get | hi all |
| 18:56.37 | Flash-Get | hi |
| 18:56.38 | Flash-Get | 4 ...::15 15,1[-14-4-5-15 Hi 5-4-14-15-0]4 ::... |
| 18:56.57 | Ellipsis | uh, no |
| 18:57.02 | |Stan| | omg no |
| 18:57.48 | kergoth | Flash-Get: disable your scripts in here, please. |
| 18:58.28 | Flash-Get | :) |
| 18:58.32 | Flash-Get | whi? |
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| 18:58.46 | nevcairiel | because colors are anyoing |
| 18:58.48 | |Stan| | b-cause it's annoying |
| 18:58.50 | Sais | Because the nice op asked you to. |
| 18:58.54 | haste | anyone happen to have a nice little screen of Butsu? |
| 18:59.15 | Flash-Get | can i get here wow server files? |
| 18:59.20 | Flash-Get | MANGOS? |
| 18:59.25 | |Stan| | lmao |
| 18:59.39 | dylanm | Awesome. |
| 19:00.00 | Flash-Get | ? |
| 19:00.03 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 19:00.17 | Flash-Get | World Of Warcraft |
| 19:00.20 | dylanm | Ellipsis: Don't ruin this. |
| 19:00.27 | Ellipsis | haste: does it need epic lewts in it? I can go take one real quick :P |
| 19:00.48 | dylanm | Gotta be looting at least one warglaive. |
| 19:00.53 | Flash-Get | bzz |
| 19:01.05 | Ellipsis | well darn |
| 19:01.05 | haste | Ellipsis: would be nice with epix! :3 |
| 19:01.12 | haste | I could always fake one tho' |
| 19:01.15 | dylanm | haste: You releasing? |
| 19:01.17 | Ellipsis | I just soloed illidan yesterday, I guess I'll have to wait til reset |
| 19:01.38 | haste | dylanm: yes, since no-one has poked me about any issues :p |
| 19:02.04 | dylanm | It would be awesome if by default it popped up with the first item right underneath the cursor but editing solves that pretty handily. |
| 19:02.15 | dylanm | It's nice. I like the highlights. |
| 19:02.28 | haste | I will probably fix the anchoring for cursor later |
| 19:02.34 | Flash-Get | plzzzz can give me link to download server files? |
| 19:02.38 | kergoth | Flash-Get: this channel is for wow addon development, not cheating blizzard out of money. Don't bring up wow server code or anything similar again. |
| 19:02.53 | haste | I personally hate it when it moves to my cursor |
| 19:03.11 | dylanm | haste: I feel ya. It's not an essential by any means. |
| 19:03.11 | Flash-Get | im not need cheats |
| 19:03.22 | Flash-Get | i need files |
| 19:03.26 | Flash-Get | Repack |
| 19:03.29 | Flash-Get | EMU |
| 19:03.31 | Flash-Get | :D |
| 19:03.32 | Flash-Get | 8¶14:4D |
| 19:03.34 | *** kick/#wowace [Flash-Get!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
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| 19:03.35 | Flash-Get | ïðèâåò, äðóçüÿ |
| 19:03.35 | haste | in b4 v& |
| 19:03.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@87.110.64.57] by ckknight |
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| 19:03.45 | Fisker- | Anyone remember the best ram configuration for a core2? |
| 19:03.50 | dylanm | So many lines to say so little. |
| 19:03.52 | kergoth | ck's faster on the trigger than me, i was halfway through a /kb |
| 19:03.54 | Fisker- | DDR??? |
| 19:04.06 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r56806 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: |
| 19:04.06 | CIA-12 | SilverDragon: |
| 19:04.06 | CIA-12 | -Remove that WorldFrame check -- it was added because I was reading a bug report out of its proper time context. |
| 19:04.06 | CIA-12 | -Instead make sure that we actually know the zone we're in. |
| 19:04.07 | kergoth | i was being nice for once, but if they won't follow the rules after being warned.. |
| 19:04.08 | Ellipsis | ckknight, you are my hero <3 |
| 19:04.18 | ckknight | you just want in my pants, Ellipsis |
| 19:04.23 | dylanm | I was about to say... |
| 19:04.48 | Ellipsis | how did you guess |
| 19:05.00 | dylanm | haste: Does Maneki rock out similarly? I've never tried it. |
| 19:05.01 | Ellipsis | I was totally being so subtle about it |
| 19:05.03 | ckknight | just a hunch |
| 19:05.10 | kenlyric | don't let her in your pants. |
| 19:05.21 | haste | dylanm: nah, it's shit :p |
| 19:05.47 | haste | dylanm: I have a semi-finished-rewrite of it in the works tho' |
| 19:06.17 | dylanm | Casting curse of tongues eh? Ehhhh? |
| 19:07.02 | haste | oh shi- |
| 19:08.00 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 19:08.17 | dylanm | I'm so sorry. |
| 19:09.11 | cncfanatics | kergoth |
| 19:09.14 | cncfanatics | check the doc wiki :) |
| 19:09.24 | cncfanatics | similar to /fb line, but makes a ring instead of lines :) |
| 19:10.06 | kergoth | kk, figured |
| 19:10.49 | kergoth | i should make a /fb grid to show/hide the button grid when nothing is in it.. stupidly simple, but itd be a start to hacking on fb |
| 19:10.51 | kergoth | heh |
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| 19:38.24 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:38.24 | CIA-12 | - updated Engineering, Leatherworking |
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| 19:52.00 | Ozguli | gah, is there any addon that shows boss trash respawns? |
| 19:52.08 | Ozguli | NECB should do it |
| 19:52.11 | kergoth | Incubator has timer bars for them |
| 19:52.13 | kergoth | NECB probably does |
| 19:52.22 | Ozguli | yeah but the seconds are too slow |
| 19:52.29 | Ozguli | maybe 1.5 times slower than they should |
| 19:52.52 | Ozguli | and half of the time the bar won't show up |
| 19:53.07 | Ozguli | highlight me so that I find this later |
| 19:53.28 | dylanm | The NECB guy quit, apparently. |
| 19:53.34 | kergoth | Ozguli: foo |
| 19:53.40 | dylanm | I think he still updates it despite not having an account. |
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| 19:55.59 | Xinhuan | wondering if any new innovative addon will result from the v2.4 combat log changes |
| 19:58.16 | kergoth | hehe. i'm sure there'll be lots of addons.. whether they'll be innovative or not is something else entirely though |
| 19:58.41 | Xinhuan | damage meters will prob enter a new era |
| 19:58.53 | Xinhuan | but not sure if anything else will come out of it |
| 20:00.20 | charon | aggro meters will finally Just Work |
| 20:08.25 | Xinhuan | not quite |
| 20:08.49 | kergoth | have they said how the ids will be calculated? unique just to you, or to everyone in the raid, or..? |
| 20:08.51 | Xinhuan | the combat log guid doesn't indicate the corresponding unit in game |
| 20:09.17 | Xinhuan | the addon would only be able to tell from inferences such as debuffs active on the mob |
| 20:09.55 | Xinhuan | also not known if the guids observed is the same guids across the raid, or only applicable to you |
| 20:10.32 | Xinhuan | if it isn't then a lot more inferences has to be made, complicating things |
| 20:12.03 | Xinhuan | i still can't help but wonder if anything interesting/innovative can be made out of it hmmm |
| 20:12.50 | kergoth | i have a question.. will you be able to target by guid, like with a frame attribute? |
| 20:12.52 | kergoth | cause thatd be cool |
| 20:12.54 | kergoth | maybe |
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| 20:13.13 | Xinhuan | i'm guessing no |
| 20:13.24 | Xinhuan | can automate a lot of things if you could |
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| 20:13.56 | TS-JB | Is fisheye not working properly or is my browser messed up? |
| 20:13.59 | Xinhuan | like "raid leader sets master guid" "everyone in raid presses one button to auto target something" |
| 20:14.08 | Xinhuan | fisheye is prob broken |
| 20:14.19 | dylanm | Fisheye has not worked well for me in some time. |
| 20:14.25 | Xinhuan | it didn't work just now |
| 20:14.38 | TS-JB | I really liked it : / |
| 20:14.41 | dylanm | Some things will work. A lot of your major pages like "overview" just won't. |
| 20:14.54 | kergoth | Xinhuan: well, not necessarily. you wont know a given mob's guid until something happens in the log with it, and you cant set frame attributes in combat anyway, so itd be of limited usefulness |
| 20:15.11 | dylanm | You cannot target with the combat log ids. |
| 20:15.24 | dylanm | At least, that's been the consistent line. |
| 20:15.45 | dylanm | Neither in nor out of combat, was my impression. |
| 20:16.07 | Xinhuan | i am inclined to believe that the combat log overhaul is purely clientside |
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| 20:16.20 | Xinhuan | and no change to the server is necessary |
| 20:16.45 | Xinhuan | meaning i believe the guids given would be local and valid only for yourself |
| 20:17.32 | Fisker- | well wouldn't it require a server update to display the guid? |
| 20:17.35 | Xinhuan | so it would help combat log parsing -- and that only |
| 20:18.21 | Xinhuan | for all you know, the guid could just be an integer starting from 1, to N which is the number of mobs you've seen within your area of interest |
| 20:18.27 | kergoth | Fisker-: not if the client already knows what mobs are what, and just doesnt show it to you |
| 20:19.00 | Xinhuan | so if you walk near mobA and its given an ID of "15" locally, walk of of range, then back in, the client could assign a new GUID to it - say 23 |
| 20:19.01 | Fisker- | well Xinhuan then you couldn't synchronize between clients |
| 20:19.13 | Xinhuan | yah, you couldn't if that is the case |
| 20:19.21 | Xinhuan | they never said you could |
| 20:19.26 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:19.34 | Fisker- | but i wouldn't say it'd make much sense if it didn't imo |
| 20:19.36 | dylanm | slouken has some clarifications here... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1 |
| 20:19.38 | dylanm | reading now |
| 20:19.54 | Fisker- | and with threatmeter on the way they might get the underlying support ready |
| 20:20.39 | Xinhuan | in all likelyhood, the threatmeter they would give is probably just a single API that returns 1 value - "green" "orange" or "red" lolol |
| 20:21.34 | Kemayo | It feels like it'd be more work on their part to *not* have unique global ids. |
| 20:21.35 | Ozguli | they add all this useless stuff that doesn't work properly |
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| 20:22.41 | Pkekyo| | did lolcoil get the same mechanic changes (mobs) as fear did recently? |
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| 20:24.33 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: tanking the lock on HKM, when i took deathcoil he stayed on me |
| 20:24.40 | dylanm | "You'll find that the GUID decodes into the type of creature, which can then be matched against data in the WDB cache ... not that anyone would ever try to decode that data. :)" |
| 20:24.55 | JoshBorke | famous last words |
| 20:25.24 | dylanm | The all-knowing smiley. |
| 20:25.29 | dylanm | bbl |
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| 20:26.08 | Xinhuan | except that allakhazam, wowdigger and many other things all decode the WDB cache easily |
| 20:26.20 | Pkekyo| | I simply LOVEnot getting a single bloody heal when tanking |
| 20:26.40 | Xinhuan | they decode and convert the wdb files into CSV files with some work |
| 20:26.49 | Fisker- | heh |
| 20:26.55 | Fisker- | finally announced the russian version of wow |
| 20:26.58 | Xinhuan | which is then uploaded to thottbot, etc for data |
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| 20:29.17 | Fisker- | FUCKING WIIIIIIIIN |
| 20:29.21 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1748545124&postId=19053109395&sid=1#130 |
| 20:30.39 | Xinhuan | gg blizz |
| 20:31.44 | Fisker- | it's awesome |
| 20:31.58 | Fisker- | perhaps the whiner druids will stop hallucinating now |
| 20:32.35 | charon | "The druid in the second video appears to be affected by latency and in a chase scenario even the smallest increase in latency can greatly affect the situation." |
| 20:32.45 | charon | i guess the fact that only druids complain means only druids have lag |
| 20:34.34 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:34.37 | Fisker- | druids just whine more |
| 20:35.26 | Fisker- | this "bug" has always existed for warriors and rogue |
| 20:35.27 | Fisker- | rogues |
| 20:35.42 | Fisker- | however it's usually less noticable as we can actually easier snare our target |
| 20:35.42 | Pkekyo| | they have five different forms to cry in...produces more tears! :p |
| 20:35.54 | Fisker- | but i've definitely had my fair share of "out of range" spam |
| 20:36.04 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: as have all meelee classes |
| 20:36.19 | Fisker- | that's what i said :) |
| 20:36.39 | Pkekyo| | I love the bug where I can autoattack people through walls....sadly no specials though :< a lucky streak of Swordspecc crits is fun though |
| 20:37.14 | Fisker- | i loved the bug where you could cap bunkers and towers through the walls |
| 20:37.22 | Fisker- | and then blizzard fixed the bunkers but not the towers :D |
| 20:37.29 | Pkekyo| | never experienced that one :< |
| 20:37.45 | Fisker- | made of win and awesome |
| 20:37.57 | Fisker- | it was pretty cool as alliance didn't know about it |
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| 20:38.20 | Fisker- | so we just retook everything through the wall |
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| 20:42.50 | Pkekyo| | fucksake..ONE bloody HKM try in ONE bloody fucking hour |
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| 20:44.47 | Cadwallion | that sounds bloody |
| 20:44.55 | KarlThePagan | if anyone has any has any feedback on Grouper use cases or ideas - http://wowace.com/wiki/Grouper |
| 20:45.03 | KarlThePagan | maybe I'll forum whore it |
| 20:45.31 | kergoth | ooh working on grouper? |
| 20:45.32 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:45.48 | Pkekyo| | Cadwallion: it would be if I could get my hands on some of these people... |
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| 20:51.45 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, yea well grouper is going to be a lot different |
| 20:51.59 | KarlThePagan | the use-cases i had before are garbage... need new ones |
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| 20:52.45 | KarlThePagan | it needs to be more guild and alt focused |
| 20:52.49 | Ozguli | is there an addon that automatically makes me ignore everyone in the raid? |
| 20:52.51 | KarlThePagan | those are the holes the current LFG system has |
| 20:53.13 | Cadwallion | Ozguli: it's called '/ignore' |
| 20:53.22 | Cadwallion | or 'alt-z' |
| 20:53.27 | KarlThePagan | right click on chat tab and remove the raid chat ;) |
| 20:53.58 | Cadwallion | I like the Alt-Z method. Extreme Solutions for Extreme Reactions. :-P |
| 20:54.06 | Xinhuan | Ozguli: laeve the raid ;p |
| 20:54.35 | KarlThePagan | has anyone heard of an addon that is kind of a raid "morale" indicator? |
| 20:54.37 | Ozguli | Cadwallion I want to see my slice n' dice duration |
| 20:54.41 | Ozguli | and combo points |
| 20:55.02 | Cadwallion | Seeing is over-rated |
| 20:55.05 | Xinhuan | just hide the raid chat behind another tab |
| 20:55.15 | Ozguli | oo. |
| 20:55.20 | kergoth | what does slice and dice and combo points have to do with the raid? i'm confused |
| 20:55.37 | Ozguli | kergoth I want to dps while ignoring the raid, eh? :P |
| 20:55.53 | Xinhuan | i assume this is for BGs |
| 20:55.57 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 20:56.04 | Ozguli | no, kara... I hate my guild |
| 20:56.10 | Ozguli | well |
| 20:56.14 | Xinhuan | you just setup separate chat tabs for raid, bg, etc |
| 20:56.17 | kergoth | they're independent. if you want ot ignore the raid, ignore the raid. i doubt anyone really cares about you seein gslice n dice, sicne thats not what you're asking about :P |
| 20:56.19 | Xinhuan | and dock them |
| 20:56.21 | Ozguli | is there an addon to temp ignore everyone in a group? |
| 20:56.33 | Ozguli | :P |
| 20:56.34 | Xinhuan | no such addon |
| 20:56.38 | Ozguli | meh |
| 20:56.38 | Cadwallion | kergoth, he was referring to my suggestion to hide his interface with 'alt-z' |
| 20:56.45 | Ozguli | I should go and transfer |
| 20:56.48 | Xinhuan | because you're the person in 9.3m ppl |
| 20:56.50 | kergoth | ahhh right, dont mind me, i'm blind |
| 20:56.55 | Xinhuan | to ask for something like that |
| 20:56.57 | KarlThePagan | if you use aloft you can see combo points in alt-z |
| 20:57.07 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 20:57.10 | KarlThePagan | as long as you display those bars with alt-z on |
| 20:58.28 | mjc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYPvQysqaQ |
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| 21:17.46 | Ozguli | meh ok real business now |
| 21:17.51 | Ozguli | macro command to switch weapon? |
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| 21:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | wowwiki.com/Macros |
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| 21:19.04 | kergoth | hmm, i should suck less at macros |
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| 21:24.11 | mort | !points 800 |
| 21:24.12 | Xinhuan | 800 arena points require 1826(5s), 1897(3s) and 1999(2s) team rating. |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-12 | 03simlan * r56808 10ActionCombat/ (Locale_koKR.lua Readme.txt): ActionCombat: Readme added, changed comments in the koKR translation |
| 21:26.56 | DickShow_CAM | hii channel |
| 21:28.29 | Ellipsis | that's quite a unique nickname you have there |
| 21:29.47 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56809 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: The BIGB display will now update along with the real guild bank if both are open and changes are detected. |
| 21:32.58 | Xinhuan | JoshBorke, if you care, there's 2 table recycling functions in bankitems... newTable() and delTable() |
| 21:33.08 | Xinhuan | going to sleep soon, so tired |
| 21:33.36 | buu | Xinhuan: did you ever answer why the treasure thingy was so hard? |
| 21:33.48 | buu | Or rather, impossible. |
| 21:34.01 | Xinhuan | buu, it wasn't a matter of hard/easy |
| 21:34.09 | Pkekyo| | hot fucking shit...after 1hr 40min HKM goes down! |
| 21:34.17 | Xinhuan | more of a "i can't be fucked adding it" ;p |
| 21:34.20 | buu | Xinhuan: Oh, well, I added a "Treasure" option to the list |
| 21:34.28 | buu | But it complained that the data was a table instead of a string.. |
| 21:34.34 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: thanks |
| 21:34.42 | Xinhuan | what did you change buu? |
| 21:34.46 | buu | create_data[ db_type ..";"..orig_node..";"..count ] = ("%s - %s - %d"):format(L[db_type],LN[node],count) |
| 21:35.11 | buu | Xinhuan: Line 125, node_database = ...; I added "Treasure" |
| 21:35.31 | buu | (Because I was looking at Cartographer_Data.Treasure = { } else wheres.. ) |
| 21:35.44 | Xinhuan | it'll only work if the treasue databse is stored in the same manner as fish/herb/mine |
| 21:36.05 | Xinhuan | i.e in the [nodeID] = "nodetype" manner |
| 21:36.12 | buu | Xinhuan: Well, it looked like it. |
| 21:36.17 | Xinhuan | such as [98675478] = "Adamantite Ore" |
| 21:36.27 | Xinhuan | where the number is the coordinate |
| 21:36.52 | Xinhuan | which carto addon stores treasure? |
| 21:37.08 | buu | Cartographer_Treasure |
| 21:37.12 | buu | Treasure mapnotes for Cartographer (based on Cartographer_Mining by kergoth) |
| 21:37.31 | buu | If I look at Treasure.lua in Cart_Data, I see.. [37010370] = "Solid Chest", |
| 21:37.55 | buu | But core.lua has some weird special case for "name == Treasure" |
| 21:38.11 | Xinhuan | you may have invalid data, can you post your SV? |
| 21:38.29 | buu | Sorry, SV? |
| 21:39.19 | Xinhuan | savedvars |
| 21:39.23 | buu | Oh, saved variables? |
| 21:39.27 | buu | Heh. |
| 21:39.32 | buu | No =[ |
| 21:39.43 | buu | At least, I don't think I can. |
| 21:40.52 | Xinhuan | if the format of database is the same, and you get an error, then either the data isn't in the format expected, or you have corrupt data |
| 21:42.00 | buu | Xinhuan: I was thinking it was the special case |
| 21:42.09 | buu | But I suppose it's possible I have corrupt data. |
| 21:42.19 | Xinhuan | routes only looks in the SV |
| 21:42.22 | CIA-12 | 03simlan * r56810 10GetDKP_AutoPost/: GetDKP_AutoPost: First import of this little helper |
| 21:42.30 | Xinhuan | it doesn't touch _Treasure itself |
| 21:43.01 | Xinhuan | you'll have to post your SV |
| 21:43.19 | kergoth | <-- DickShow_CAM has quit (K-lined) |
| 21:45.21 | buu | Xinhuan: But doesn't Treasure modify the SV stuff by adding the locations? |
| 21:45.41 | buu | Er, I mean, _Data |
| 21:45.49 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 21:46.12 | Xinhuan | as far as i'm concerned, _routes looks in the SV directly |
| 21:46.17 | buu | Hrmph. |
| 21:46.17 | CIA-12 | 03simlan * r56811 10GetDKP_AutoPost/ (7 files): GetDKP_AutoPost: Files for the Addon |
| 21:46.21 | buu | Ok, well, I'll take a look |
| 21:46.28 | Xinhuan | and doesn't call any function or api in _herb/mine/fish |
| 21:46.33 | buu | Right |
| 21:46.56 | buu | But _Data just inserts in to Cartographer_MiningDB directly. |
| 21:47.18 | Xinhuan | thats why i asked you to post your treasure savedvar file |
| 21:47.29 | NeoTron | started using cart_routes. pretty rad |
| 21:47.33 | buu | Xinhuan: Wish I could. |
| 21:47.42 | Xinhuan | why cant u? |
| 21:47.50 | buu | I don't have access to that machine. |
| 21:48.17 | Xinhuan | ?_? |
| 21:48.55 | buu | I agree. |
| 21:49.21 | Xinhuan | youre saying you don't have access to a machine you can play on? |
| 21:49.26 | buu | Yes.. |
| 21:49.39 | buu | Little thing we call "Work" and an "Office" |
| 21:50.16 | Xinhuan | well, go "Home", post it, and maybe we can talk about it tomorrow ;) |
| 21:51.48 | buu | Indeed. |
| 21:52.00 | buu | Stupid windows box, stop being so secure |
| 21:52.14 | Xinhuan | remote desktop |
| 21:52.37 | buu | I don't think it's enabled. |
| 21:52.58 | Ozguli | egh.. the wowwiki stuff doesn't work properly |
| 21:53.06 | Ozguli | for weapon switch backstab macro |
| 21:56.20 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 21:56.32 | [dRaCo] | weapon switching now triggers the gcd |
| 21:56.45 | [dRaCo] | the macro doesnt work anymore |
| 21:56.50 | [dRaCo] | and it prolly never will |
| 21:57.22 | buu | NeoTron: Hey, do you have wo wrunning? |
| 21:57.24 | Ozguli | oh |
| 21:57.36 | Ozguli | pretty lame |
| 21:58.38 | |Stan| | EoS DOWN! |
| 21:58.41 | |Stan| | *dances* |
| 21:59.32 | buu | EoS? |
| 22:00.18 | NightHawkTheSane | [dRaCo]: if by "now" you mean, "for like a year now" ;) |
| 22:00.38 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's the now I was talking about ;) |
| 22:01.06 | thul | eos? |
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| 22:02.25 | Polarina | Anyone knows what's wrong with Gatherer? When someone is trying to send me tons of data, only the first 25 is recieved and then it says "Aborted". |
| 22:02.47 | Orionshock | not throddled prolly |
| 22:03.12 | Polarina | It halts for about 10 seconds, then it says aborted. |
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| 22:10.05 | |Stan| | buu: thul essence of souls |
| 22:11.13 | buu | I thought he was .. reliquary |
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| 22:27.28 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r56812 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Added initial support for exporting BIGB. |
| 22:29.56 | winkiller | hm, any means to bind a "show/toggle recount" |
| 22:30.21 | aestil | did you check the keybinding's menu? |
| 22:32.00 | winkiller | ofc |
| 22:32.12 | aestil | ofc? |
| 22:32.37 | Orionshock | of course |
| 22:32.45 | Paradox_ | any way to make Tekkompare not show popups in chat when you hover? |
| 22:33.15 | Orionshock | delete the "hoverlink.lua" file in the addon |
| 22:34.02 | nevcairiel | tek doesnt believe in options eh? |
| 22:34.22 | Tekkub | not really, just nix the file |
| 22:34.25 | Kemayo | Options are for the weak. |
| 22:34.35 | CIA-12 | 03snago * r56813 10FuBar_NinjutFu/NinjutFu.lua: |
| 22:34.35 | CIA-12 | FuBar_NinjutFu: |
| 22:34.35 | CIA-12 | - Bugfix |
| 22:34.43 | Paradox_ | Tekkub: just deleting hoverlink will work? |
| 22:34.51 | Tekkub | options requires a DB and a UI |
| 22:34.54 | Tekkub | yes |
| 22:35.11 | Paradox_ | ah it's HoverTips.lua |
| 22:35.22 | Paradox_ | well, thanks :D been bugging me for a while now |
| 22:39.15 | Orionshock | Tekkub: naa, just slash commands |
| 22:39.38 | Tekkub | that's still a UI |
| 22:39.49 | Orionshock | mift |
| 22:39.56 | Tekkub | my point is, it's a lot of extra code, or you could just delete the file |
| 22:40.09 | Tekkub | simplest solution... |
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| 22:41.21 | Orionshock | Funkeh`: ... any way to get BasicMinimap to tell other mods they have a square minimap? |
| 22:42.05 | haste | Orionshock: function GetMinimapShape() return "SQUARE" end |
| 22:43.18 | Paradox_ | anyone using FluidFrames/ever heard of a way to disable unsaved movement of frames? |
| 22:43.40 | mathuin | I asked this question in #norganna and nobody had an answer, figured I might ask here: given AH data for two realms, how can I tell what items are far more expensive on one realm than the other? |
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| 22:43.47 | winkiller | you know you play too much wow when.. server goes offline and you and your girlfriend just randomly log to another server for a quick check in the first minute independently :P |
| 22:44.33 | aestil | the more i listen to 'in rainbows' the more in love with it i am. freaking playing guitars again, and it makes me happy. |
| 22:45.30 | aestil | mathuin: i believe that auctioneer keeps that data seperate, so i wouldn't know how you could access the both of them. |
| 22:45.59 | mathuin | aestil: it's all in Auc-SyncData.lua just in different data structures. I would probably have to write some lua to do it, but I haven't written any lua. |
| 22:46.20 | mathuin | winkiller: my girlfriend just sends me a gchat message "AD foom?" or similar. |
| 22:46.43 | winkiller | AD foom? |
| 22:46.43 | Funkeh` | Orionshock, huh, why? |
| 22:47.36 | Orionshock | some fubar minimap icons arn't following the "Square"-ness of the minimap when it's square... last time i read something about that idea, it had something to do with the addon that touches the minimap... |
| 22:47.43 | Orionshock | figured i'd ask |
| 22:47.52 | mathuin | winkiller: "AD foom?" == "Did Argent Dawn crash again?" |
| 22:48.00 | winkiller | oh, ok :) |
| 22:48.23 | Xinhuan | a minimap addon that changes the shape of it is supposed to supply a function that returns the shape i think |
| 22:48.33 | winkiller | well, we're sitting in the same room, but comps in diff. directions |
| 22:48.34 | Xinhuan | not sure on this |
| 22:48.39 | winkiller | and diff. factions atm |
| 22:48.57 | Funkeh` | Isn't it each to check in the minimap icon if the texture of the minimap is original or not |
| 22:49.03 | Xinhuan | no |
| 22:49.05 | Orionshock | for example Xinhuan your minimap icon, while not build by fubar iirc, dosn't follow the square shape |
| 22:49.20 | Xinhuan | the addon just calls GetMinimapShape() |
| 22:49.25 | Xinhuan | to get the shape |
| 22:49.50 | Orionshock | .. nil? |
| 22:49.57 | Xinhuan | some minimapaddons can configure to a variety of shapes, such as 1 rounded 3 square corners |
| 22:50.51 | Funkeh` | >.< |
| 22:50.56 | Xinhuan | a typical addon would then do |
| 22:50.58 | Xinhuan | local map_shape = GetMinimapShape and GetMinimapShape() or "ROUND" |
| 22:51.40 | Orionshock | your infering that GetMinimapShape() is a user provided func? |
| 22:51.56 | Xinhuan | the standard return values are "ROUND", "SQUARE", "CORNER-TOPLEFT", "CORNER-TOPRIGHT", "CORNER-BOTTOMLEFT"... and about 10 others |
| 22:52.01 | Xinhuan | yes orion |
| 22:52.10 | Xinhuan | that function is provided by the minimap modifying addon |
| 22:52.16 | Xinhuan | to return the shape |
| 22:52.42 | Xinhuan | wowwiki should have info on this |
| 22:53.02 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 22:53.12 | Orionshock | http://wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape |
| 22:53.20 | Funkeh` | Like I really think about telling other addons what my shape is when I make an addon >.< |
| 22:53.39 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 22:53.42 | Funkeh` | thats a lot |
| 22:53.49 | Xinhuan | if your shape is always square, then just do what haste said earlier |
| 22:53.50 | Xinhuan | [12/11 06:41:58] <haste> Orionshock: function GetMinimapShape() return "SQUARE" end |
| 22:54.08 | Funkeh` | Its circular also |
| 22:54.19 | Orionshock | i d/c in after i asked so i didn't see that :D |
| 22:54.25 | Xinhuan | cartographer_notes needs this function to determine how to draw its notes/nodes/herbs/mines, etc |
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| 22:54.29 | Xinhuan | on the edge of the minimap |
| 22:54.37 | Xinhuan | along with some other addons |
| 22:55.03 | Xinhuan | _routes also checks this to determine where to cut off the line drawing |
| 22:55.06 | Xinhuan | on the minimap |
| 22:55.12 | Funkeh` | right |
| 22:58.25 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r56814 10Baggins_BtmScan/ (Baggins_BtmScan.lua Baggins_BtmScan.toc): |
| 22:58.25 | CIA-12 | Baggins_BtmScan |
| 22:58.25 | CIA-12 | - Added support for all loaded BtmScan evaluators (credits to bunnyfufu) |
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| 23:03.27 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56815 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: BasicMinimap: return minimap shape for other addons |
| 23:03.29 | Funkeh` | Orionshock, there |
| 23:03.41 | Orionshock | :D thanks Funkeh` |
| 23:03.47 | Funkeh` | np |
| 23:03.54 | Funkeh` | wtb blizz function for it, though. |
| 23:03.57 | Tuller | bongos actually uses that function, too |
| 23:04.13 | Funkeh` | WOn't it get blamed if the function is called a lot? |
| 23:04.32 | Tuller | it does not implement it :P |
| 23:04.41 | Tuller | it just uses it for the minimap button I have |
| 23:04.45 | Funkeh` | I mean my addon |
| 23:04.55 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r56816 10Baggins_BtmScan/ (Baggins_BtmScan.lua Baggins_BtmScan.toc): |
| 23:04.56 | CIA-12 | Baggins_BtmScan |
| 23:04.56 | CIA-12 | - Incorporated changes suggested by Kinesia for fixing the incompatibility with recent versions of AucAdvanced. This breaks the 4.x compatibility, which will not be introduced again. |
| 23:05.04 | mathuin | Annoyance: Grim Guzzler Key is not a key on a keyring, but Ethereum Prison Keys are. |
| 23:05.17 | Tuller | probably, then :P |
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| 23:05.43 | Funkeh` | great :/ |
| 23:05.52 | aestil | is there a good program to check to see if something has a keylogger? |
| 23:05.57 | aestil | or any other sort of malware? |
| 23:05.58 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 23:06.04 | Funkeh` | virustotal |
| 23:06.14 | [dRaCo] | spybot s&d |
| 23:06.18 | Funkeh` | http://www.virustotal.com/ |
| 23:06.26 | [dRaCo] | www.google.com |
| 23:06.39 | Funkeh` | choose your file, tick use ssl, and it will use every virus scanner to check it |
| 23:06.55 | Funkeh` | but as it says in big bold writing, that doesn't guarantee its harmless |
| 23:07.03 | aestil | *nods* |
| 23:07.34 | aestil | well, tbh, i'm trying to see if a copy of D2 i just got was distro'd with some sort of malware with it. my disc's are lost/scratched to hell. |
| 23:07.53 | Funkeh` | yeah then use something like spybot/adaware |
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| 23:09.08 | mathuin | What exactly does Baggins_BtmScan actually do? |
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| 23:11.07 | aestil | i tested the cracked game.exe provided. it checked ok i guess. it got 1 suspecious, but i don't really understand that. |
| 23:11.23 | aestil | 1/31. |
| 23:11.36 | [dRaCo] | prolly false positive |
| 23:12.00 | aestil | at least, its not likely that 30 other checkers missed something that this one caught, right? |
| 23:12.04 | aestil | not 'likely' |
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| 23:12.35 | mathuin | You'll find out! :-) |
| 23:12.35 | Funkeh` | yeah it could be a fals epositive |
| 23:12.44 | Funkeh` | I've had it before for a crack |
| 23:12.51 | Funkeh` | detected as suspicious but was fine |
| 23:12.55 | Preystalker | run it with sandboxie |
| 23:13.35 | aestil | sandboxie? |
| 23:14.02 | Preystalker | it sets up a sandbox to run stuff in so you don't destroy your computer |
| 23:14.37 | Preystalker | if you don't have any problems after install/run then have at it |
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| 23:15.03 | Preystalker | this just the d2.exe file that you have problems with? |
| 23:15.24 | aestil | no, the game.exe file. its the one with all the copy protection in it, no doubt. |
| 23:15.26 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r56817 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.lua: BasicMinimap: remove useless local |
| 23:15.38 | aestil | i'm just making sure its not got nastyness in it. |
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| 23:18.13 | aestil | hmm. won't run sandboxied |
| 23:18.16 | aestil | get a wierd error. |
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| 23:20.00 | aestil | well, it doesn't help that i'm dumb and didn't finish installing it. |
| 23:20.48 | Orionshock | im surprised at how mostly accurate natucus is. |
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| 23:22.17 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r56818 10LootWhore/LootWhore.lua: LootWhore: Strip colors from messages sent to chat channels, since it will disconnect you. |
| 23:22.31 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r56819 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/ (BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc CommonAuras.lua): BigWigs_CommonAuras: frFR Update |
| 23:23.37 | Killmore | LootWhore ? :P |
| 23:26.15 | Orionshock | it gives meaning to the "LOOT_OPENED" addon message that AceEvent-2 sends out |
| 23:26.17 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 23:28.24 | Arrowmaster | holy shit you mean something actually uses those messages? |
| 23:28.45 | [dRaCo] | yeah, lootwhore does! |
| 23:28.49 | vhaarr | ^^ |
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| 23:31.15 | aestil | like, you get a notification on what people looted? Like xloot monitor? |
| 23:31.38 | [dRaCo] | na, it notifies you when someone loots in combat |
| 23:31.39 | Orionshock | range |
| 23:31.48 | [dRaCo] | at least that's what the commit msg said |
| 23:32.00 | Orionshock | what it does is tells you who clicked the mob |
| 23:32.06 | Xuerian | aestil: A long time ago in a land far far away, Tekkub added a little niblet to ace2 that broadcasts a addon message when loot is opened |
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| 23:32.13 | Orionshock | witch you can't know unless it's your client |
| 23:32.14 | Xuerian | aestil: This is using that |
| 23:32.40 | aestil | lol. hysterical. thats seems like a relativly useless thing to be in a framework imo. |
| 23:33.15 | Wobwork | probably =) |
| 23:33.29 | aestil | not that i really care. |
| 23:33.34 | Wobwork | when has that ever stopped people? =P |
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| 23:33.44 | aestil | i was all for the talent sniffing in rock. |
| 23:34.04 | Funkeh` | so were blizz |
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| 23:34.16 | Orionshock | that's it ... im gona figure it out, i'll make the LibBigBrother |
| 23:34.40 | NeoTron | Illidari council - how many healers is typical? (we went with 7) |
| 23:39.01 | Antiarc | http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/gold_pill_makes.php |
| 23:46.23 | aestil | http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/dvice_tv_direct.php |
| 23:46.27 | aestil | thats really funny right there. |
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| 23:50.18 | PHL-chuck | hey folks, got a quick question.. I for some reason always crash after making a bunch of UI changes (murphy law) does "reloadui" force a save of settings? |
| 23:50.22 | Orionshock | well it took me about 4mins of searching and syntax to disable that little feature of AceEvent2 |
| 23:50.28 | Antiarc | Yes, PHL-chuck |
| 23:50.34 | PHL-chuck | thanks :-) |
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| 23:53.02 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r56820 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 23:53.02 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:53.02 | CIA-12 | -Redeemed Soul Moccasins fix |
| 23:53.05 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r56821 10AckisRecipeList/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 23:53.05 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:53.05 | CIA-12 | -Redeemed Soul Moccasins fix |
| 23:55.48 | Orionshock | god i love peopel that can't type |
| 23:56.32 | [dRaCo] | yeah... says the one who mistyped people *g* |
| 23:58.29 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r56822 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: frFR Update |
| 23:58.41 | Orionshock | female boomkin' in our guild whispers me "het atra can i just like u something so i can compare" |
| 23:58.50 | Orionshock | .... took me a second or 2 to figure that one out. |
| 23:59.20 | [dRaCo] | wtf |
| 23:59.27 | [dRaCo] | that's bad typing for sure |
| 23:59.49 | Orionshock | i had a wtf moment there.. |
| 23:59.50 | [dRaCo] | I dont get it |
