| 00:00.04 | NightHawkTheSane | because i hate having to open my spellbook and find the reincarnation spell to figure out how long until its up |
| 00:00.13 | Xinhuan | can't you drag it out? |
| 00:00.18 | Xinhuan | to an action button |
| 00:00.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Nope |
| 00:00.30 | NightHawkTheSane | It's a passive ability, so it wont let you |
| 00:01.52 | Diao | lol |
| 00:01.55 | Diao | ankhfu does it |
| 00:01.58 | Diao | if you happen to use fubar |
| 00:02.30 | Xinhuan | that was what i was wondering |
| 00:02.42 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: a macro with "#show spellname" or whatever it is for shamans won't work? |
| 00:02.45 | Pkekyo| | gotta love it when people don't want to fix bugs because there's a short-term fix for it >.< (which has to be applied EVERY TIME using a feature) |
| 00:03.04 | NightHawkTheSane | AnkhTimerFu you mean, and It hasn't been working lately. |
| 00:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: ooh, good idea, I havn't tried that |
| 00:03.46 | NightHawkTheSane | although, largely I just want a project to work on and more experience writing addons ;) |
| 00:06.13 | Diao | oh |
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| 00:09.42 | Xinhuan | so does #showtooltip work? |
| 00:10.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I have no idea, i haven't tried it yet. I'm still "technically" at work right now. ;) |
| 00:11.56 | Xinhuan | i put |
| 00:11.57 | Xinhuan | #showtooltip Expansive Mind |
| 00:12.01 | Xinhuan | as a gnome |
| 00:12.04 | Xinhuan | and it worked |
| 00:12.36 | Xinhuan | now i tried #showtooltip Dodge |
| 00:12.43 | Xinhuan | and mouseovering it tells me 5.14% |
| 00:12.52 | NightHawkTheSane | probably will work then |
| 00:15.20 | NightHawkTheSane | It does, indeed, appear to work. And wow is even smart enough to add the reagent count. |
| 00:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | neat, now I can get rid of one addon, and not have to write one. On the other hand, lame, I kinda wanted something to work on. |
| 00:17.18 | Diao | what does #showtooltip Expansive Mind do o_O |
| 00:17.21 | Diao | tell you how much int you have? |
| 00:17.34 | Xinhuan | it shows the tooltip, xeactly like you see it in your spellbook |
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| 00:19.09 | Diao | oh ok |
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| 00:22.19 | Pkekyo| | can someone below lvl 70 own an arena team? |
| 00:22.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont think so |
| 00:22.55 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:23.40 | Pkekyo| | damnit |
| 00:23.51 | Pkekyo| | will have to level a char to 70 to safeguard my arenateam then >.< |
| 00:24.31 | Xinhuan | you'll still need to pass it to another person |
| 00:24.41 | Xinhuan | for that peson to pass it to your alt |
| 00:26.34 | Pkekyo| | whyes? |
| 00:26.40 | Pkekyo| | can't I just invite the alt to the team? |
| 00:27.03 | Diao | you can only pass leader |
| 00:27.05 | Xinhuan | first you can't invite your alt unless its on a 2nd account |
| 00:27.06 | Diao | to an online character |
| 00:27.14 | Xinhuan | second you can only pass to an online person |
| 00:27.14 | Diao | and you can only invite online characters :p |
| 00:27.53 | Xinhuan | third, only the leader can invite |
| 00:28.09 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 00:28.11 | Pkekyo| | doh |
| 00:29.15 | Kuja^ | Kemayo: ping again |
| 00:32.20 | Pkekyo| | at what time does dailies reset? |
| 00:32.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, if i make a macro "/use item1; /use item2; /use item3; etc..." if an item is not in my bags, or on cooldown, it'll fall through and keep going until it ends or finds something right? |
| 00:32.37 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: I'm pretty sure it will try to use all of them. |
| 00:32.48 | buu | Some may fail, some may succeed but I doubt it cares. |
| 00:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, really? |
| 00:33.00 | buu | The only thing that would stop an item from being used if you have it would be a cooldown. |
| 00:33.15 | Kuja^ | Kemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/78481 |
| 00:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | well, to be specific, I was thinking of a macro like "/use Bottled Nethergon Energy; /use Crystal Mana Potion; /use Super Mana Potion" |
| 00:34.27 | NightHawkTheSane | all of those share a cooldown, i just want it to use the first one that actually exists in my bags |
| 00:34.39 | Xinhuan | it'll work |
| 00:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Alright, thanks. |
| 00:34.54 | Xinhuan | or you can just put all 3 |
| 00:34.58 | Xinhuan | on the same /use |
| 00:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | you can? |
| 00:35.12 | Xinhuan | /use Bottled Nethergon Energy; Crystal Mana Potion; Super Mana Potion |
| 00:35.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't even know that works. |
| 00:35.23 | Xinhuan | /use is identical to /cast |
| 00:35.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i knew that, I didn't know you could do that with spells either. :P |
| 00:35.49 | NightHawkTheSane | er, well, i guess i did |
| 00:35.54 | Xinhuan | if you check UIParent.lua, you'll see that SLASHCMD[USE] == SLASHCMD[CAST] |
| 00:36.03 | Xinhuan | its just an alias |
| 00:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, as i said i knew that. :) |
| 00:36.36 | NightHawkTheSane | the whole "existence as an implicit condition" kinda through me off, i guess. |
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| 00:37.42 | Paene | ag you here? |
| 00:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | threw* bah. bad day today >< |
| 00:39.56 | Xinhuan | i don't think it'll work if you put all 3 items in hte same /use though |
| 00:40.07 | Xinhuan | since it always tries to cast Bottled Nethergon Energy |
| 00:40.15 | Xinhuan | whether it exists ir not ;p |
| 00:40.41 | Xinhuan | so you're prob right |
| 00:40.47 | Xinhuan | on the existence clause |
| 00:42.27 | Paene | Is it against the rules to commit to someone else's addon? |
| 00:43.24 | JoshBorke | it's considered bad form |
| 00:43.55 | Paene | the latest working version of the agUF branch has a capitalization typo that's throwing an error when attempting to open the menu |
| 00:44.09 | Xinhuan | its ok to fix typos |
| 00:44.18 | Paene | kk |
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| 00:44.58 | CIA-8 | 03paene 07Ace3 * r56589 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Fixed a typo so we can open the config menu again. |
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| 00:45.57 | JoshBorke | but i put that typo in there intentionally... |
| 00:46.32 | Paene | lol |
| 00:47.00 | Paene | Color and color are two different things :-p |
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| 00:56.30 | JoshBorke | really? i never knew that =D |
| 01:00.02 | MrUseful | Arena Points updated. You are eligible for points if: Team fought min. 10 matches and you participated in 30% of the matches. |
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| 01:09.22 | Kemayo | Now... to log in and find out whether or not all those drycoded commits to aguf worked. :D |
| 01:09.31 | Kemayo | (Also, thank you Paene for fixing that typo.) |
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| 01:12.16 | Kemayo | Hm. Looks like the brackets in the text formatting get stripped away. |
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| 01:25.17 | lolinternet | ... |
| 01:25.21 | lolinternet | tst |
| 01:25.21 | lolinternet | *test |
| 01:26.10 | kergoth | test failed |
| 01:31.11 | WobWork | lolinternet: are you named after that music video? |
| 01:31.38 | CIA-8 | 03totalpackage * r56590 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc core.lua): |
| 01:31.38 | CIA-8 | StellarUF: |
| 01:31.38 | CIA-8 | - toc to 20300, added a nil check |
| 01:31.53 | JoshBorke | sag fails |
| 01:32.11 | WobWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHw5T4_JmmM |
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| 01:33.00 | Lukian | they haven't enabled the ability to "scan" the entire AH yet, right? |
| 01:33.14 | WobWork | no |
| 01:33.24 | WobWork | cause it disconnects people on large servers |
| 01:33.28 | Lukian | hehe |
| 01:33.59 | haste | don't copy that floppy comes to mind |
| 01:34.23 | kaiden | Is there a list of addons that are currently utilizing the Ace3 library set? |
| 01:34.39 | haste | why would there be? |
| 01:34.51 | kaiden | why wouldn't there be.. |
| 01:34.56 | kaiden | some people are curious.. like me |
| 01:35.05 | WobWork | um |
| 01:35.10 | WobWork | ag_unitframes |
| 01:35.13 | WobWork | MrPlow |
| 01:35.16 | dylanm | Combuctor |
| 01:35.26 | WobWork | all of these are in branches still though |
| 01:35.31 | dylanm | BT4 which can't really do anything yet |
| 01:35.42 | kaiden | hehe just curious is all :) |
| 01:35.45 | dylanm | What about that new map mod people were tinkering with? |
| 01:36.24 | dylanm | Mapster. That's the one. |
| 01:36.35 | Diao | mapster? |
| 01:36.38 | WobWork | has it made it out of conceptualisation? |
| 01:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | >< Don't suppose any horde guilds on a pve server need a shaman? |
| 01:37.27 | Kemayo | There's a folder for it in branches, anyway. |
| 01:38.00 | dylanm | Looks like nev and funky have the world map resized, draggable and they've also put coords on it. |
| 01:38.27 | kaiden | combuctor is a bag addon right? |
| 01:39.34 | NeoTron | WobWork: ah scan disconnecting ppl? lol |
| 01:39.35 | NeoTron | one would figure that when Blizzard adds an API to do something it would be safe to use it |
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| 01:40.36 | kaiden | hrm... wowaceupdater no longer available via sourceforge or something? |
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| 01:43.24 | ulic | kaiden: yes, from my limited understanding, because it is no longer open source |
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| 01:46.00 | Xinhuan | i'll be worried about mimic WAUs |
| 01:46.06 | Xinhuan | that has trojans |
| 01:46.19 | dylanm | NeoTron: I'm all for it. Mal'Ganis has a queue now. |
| 01:46.52 | dylanm | kaiden: Yes. It's Tuller's new thing... |
| 01:47.51 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56591 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (rep.lua rep.tw.lua): |
| 01:47.51 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 01:47.51 | CIA-8 | -Small reorder. |
| 01:48.13 | Kuja^ | Kemayo: noticed my ping? |
| 01:49.54 | Kemayo | Kuja^: I noticed -- I haven't looked into the problem yet. |
| 01:50.28 | RaydenUni | i learned something very interesting today |
| 01:50.37 | RaydenUni | i'm taking a class on Online Identity and my professor plays wow |
| 01:50.41 | RaydenUni | she has 2 70's |
| 01:50.52 | RaydenUni | apparently she and a bunch of her colleagues from around the world have their own wow guild |
| 01:51.11 | RaydenUni | some of the people who gave talks at a game conference i was at 3 weeks ago |
| 01:51.11 | Kuja^ | ok |
| 01:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I bet that's a guild chat I could actually tolerate. |
| 01:51.41 | RaydenUni | i would be really interested to see what all these professors and researchers talk about |
| 01:51.57 | RaydenUni | probably just wow stuff |
| 01:51.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/12/legendarygquit.jpg |
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| 01:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | probably |
| 01:52.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but i bet they spell correctly and use at least reasonably decent grammar. |
| 01:52.34 | RaydenUni | perhaps |
| 01:52.46 | RaydenUni | one of them gave a talk at this conference about literacy in gamers and scientific thought |
| 01:53.13 | RaydenUni | she showed us a sentence that was filled with abbreviations and showed that it was grammatically fairly complex |
| 01:53.19 | starlon | literacy in gamers... lol |
| 01:53.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "Literacy in gamers" talk = "Welcome ladies and gentleman, Sturgeon's Law, thank you and good night." |
| 01:53.47 | RaydenUni | NightHawkTheSane adults are worried that american children will grow up illiterate |
| 01:53.51 | RaydenUni | they won't be able to read or write |
| 01:54.07 | RaydenUni | she did a 2 year study and used the wow priest forum as the example |
| 01:54.16 | RaydenUni | looking at what people discussed and how they argued |
| 01:54.19 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: i know that. But that's not the problem at all. |
| 01:54.33 | RaydenUni | what she found is that most people were arguing logically and using scientific methods to discuss stuff |
| 01:55.01 | RaydenUni | she also talked about fan fiction and community sites (wowhead, blogs, etc) stuff that requires reading and writing! |
| 01:55.24 | buu | RaydenUni: I'm really not sure that's a viable example. |
| 01:55.28 | RaydenUni | what is? |
| 01:55.33 | buu | FAN FICTION. |
| 01:55.43 | RaydenUni | the point isn't that fan fiction is awesome |
| 01:55.50 | RaydenUni | but that young kids are engaging in it! |
| 01:56.02 | RaydenUni | kids who hate writing at school but are willing to put work into fan fiction |
| 01:56.13 | RaydenUni | she had some specific examples but i don't remember enough details to relate here |
| 01:56.19 | [AR]Camci | anyone here uses VLC? |
| 01:56.25 | [AR]Camci | the video player... |
| 01:56.33 | buu | RaydenUni: I dunno, I'd be interesting in knowing if these people who hate writing at school are actually writing fan fiction. |
| 01:56.51 | RaydenUni | there was one example she gave of a kid |
| 01:57.15 | RaydenUni | he did a bunch of fan fiction that the community enjoyed, was getting bad grades in school so couldn't play the game, eventually was able to get back on |
| 01:57.32 | RaydenUni | she interviewed him and he said he had a big story he was planning but it would probably take a few months |
| 01:57.40 | RaydenUni | how many kids in jr high do that? |
| 01:57.59 | RaydenUni | she asked him if he enjoyed writing in his free time and he said "no i don't, i like doing this" |
| 01:58.10 | RaydenUni | he hated writing in school but was willing to devote 3 months to writing fan fiction |
| 01:58.40 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 01:58.40 | NeoTron | a :se ai |
| 01:59.06 | RaydenUni | her point was that many of these video games (particularly ones with online communities) required a lot of literacy |
| 01:59.27 | RaydenUni | and much of the forum discussion included scientific thought |
| 01:59.33 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: vi is in the other window? ;) |
| 01:59.40 | RaydenUni | just think about our discussions of how valuable +spell hit is |
| 01:59.52 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: screen does that when I press a bad key combination |
| 01:59.56 | RaydenUni | people have made huge spreadsheets to show how much you get from +dmg vs +crit vs +hit |
| 02:00.45 | RaydenUni | it was a very interesting talk :) |
| 02:01.04 | NeoTron | I'd been interested to hear it I think |
| 02:01.15 | RaydenUni | my professor said she might come and guest speak |
| 02:01.19 | NeoTron | I love the "man you're spending all night playing a stupid video game" |
| 02:01.38 | NeoTron | when the person saying it spends all night watching opera, dr phil, judge judy... :P |
| 02:01.51 | RaydenUni | http://website.education.wisc.edu/steinkuehler/ |
| 02:01.56 | NeoTron | and with opera I meant Oprah |
| 02:02.08 | RaydenUni | you know Oprah is a misspelling of Orpah? |
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| 02:05.50 | RaydenUni | http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16264 |
| 02:05.52 | RaydenUni | summary of her talk |
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| 02:08.06 | RaydenUni | She highlighted a fan fiction writer she came across in her studies named "OrientKnight," whose works were so popular in the community that sites that could get early access to publish it were part of the "cool club." "But he was failing basic literary tests and English because he hated school," she added. |
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| 02:14.15 | NeoTron | nice |
| 02:14.33 | RaydenUni | that article makes it seem dumb |
| 02:14.38 | RaydenUni | the presentation was awesome :) |
| 02:17.10 | dylanm | 35 minute queue. Awesome. I'm just never logging out ever again... |
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| 02:21.47 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 02:22.04 | RaydenUni | how hard is curator compared to say moroes? |
| 02:22.22 | RaydenUni | i fought curator the other night but i was with a different (better geared guild) |
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| 02:23.01 | kenlyric | curator is a dps race pretty much. moroes requires more control but is more more forgiving too. |
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| 02:23.45 | ulic | I didn't think curator was too bad, we did the U shape method, it's much easier on the healers that way, but we only had two melee dps. |
| 02:23.46 | kenlyric | I didn't find one terribly more or less difficult than the other. |
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| 02:24.07 | kenlyric | U works well. |
| 02:24.38 | WobWork | U? |
| 02:25.04 | kenlyric | if you can work it, don't even put melee dps on the sparkles |
| 02:25.16 | kenlyric | obviiously you need enough ranged dps to take them down. |
| 02:25.18 | WobWork | Cause it involves a lot of chasing |
| 02:25.28 | WobWork | it's harder with more melee dps |
| 02:25.34 | WobWork | like maiden |
| 02:25.58 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 02:26.07 | WobWork | oh U for curator |
| 02:26.07 | xyu` | yeah but these games are definately not educational, i didn't RTFA though. |
| 02:26.10 | RaydenUni | we have pally tank, rogue, warrior, warrior |
| 02:26.12 | RaydenUni | :/ |
| 02:26.15 | kenlyric | it takes a bit of practice to get the hang of the hateful strike sbolt thing. |
| 02:26.24 | RaydenUni | what xyu` ? |
| 02:26.32 | ulic | well the clump up method was more painful to heal through since so much more damage was being taken |
| 02:26.34 | WobWork | kenlyric: just need a good eye on the healers |
| 02:26.55 | WobWork | kenlyric: at least it's not as hard as keeping the hateful strike on gruul =) |
| 02:27.03 | WobWork | As a rogue, I can eat a hateful bolt |
| 02:27.05 | xyu` | I think i'm lagged |
| 02:27.11 | kenlyric | it can be done without someone eating the bolts on purpose, but control is usually better when you're learning. |
| 02:27.13 | WobWork | and if I'm lucky, dodge a hateful strike =P |
| 02:27.19 | kenlyric | as we went on, we pretty much stopped. |
| 02:27.33 | kenlyric | our dps was abysmal though. |
| 02:27.37 | ulic | the first time we killed him we had 3 healers, second time only two, it was tough on the mana, but we made it with a few pots, and a mana totem |
| 02:27.51 | kenlyric | that fight after 3 evocates is unfun. |
| 02:28.01 | WobWork | make sure the locks time curse of doom well |
| 02:28.12 | kenlyric | ulic: my guild spent far too long in karazhan not understanding that more dps = things die faster. |
| 02:28.21 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.33 | kenlyric | at least one lock would miss every goddamn time |
| 02:28.56 | WobWork | it's not that hard to time =P |
| 02:29.01 | ulic | yea, if your healers are good, more dps is definetly better, I think for learning initally, 3 is nice and you can usually have enough dps still |
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| 02:29.51 | kenlyric | we ran with 4? And a couple of them were just bad. If I or the good pally were gone, they didn't do shit in there. |
| 02:30.05 | kenlyric | then I convinced them to bring two healers to curator and they saw the light. |
| 02:30.17 | kenlyric | well, 2 healers + spriest :) |
| 02:30.32 | ulic | yea 4 is definetly too many unless one of them can dps well too, we have a smite priest that doest decent dps and can heal when needed |
| 02:31.23 | Diao | smite priest o_O |
| 02:31.27 | kenlyric | typo |
| 02:31.31 | kenlyric | he meant something else. |
| 02:31.46 | ulic | no that's what he calls himself, I don't know the class at all |
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| 02:31.54 | Diao | that's like the worst possible spec to be for priest |
| 02:32.05 | kenlyric | it's possibly the worst possible raid spec |
| 02:32.07 | Diao | bad mana efficiency, no utility whatsoever |
| 02:32.12 | ulic | well he can dps well and still heal well, so it works for me to have him along |
| 02:32.13 | kenlyric | yeah, i'm pretty sure it is. |
| 02:32.15 | Diao | contributes absolutely nothing to the raid in general |
| 02:32.19 | kenlyric | maybe equal with pre 2.3 ret? |
| 02:32.28 | Diao | i'd say ret was still better |
| 02:32.29 | Diao | lol |
| 02:32.44 | Diao | at least they could judge wisdom |
| 02:32.47 | Diao | and keep it up |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r56592 10Nauticus/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-8 | - add zoning icon |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-8 | - slightly tweak rtts again |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-8 | - fix small rounding issue when comparing times |
| 02:32.51 | CIA-8 | - extra lower case check on chan name |
| 02:32.52 | RaydenUni | For most problems on The Curator, the solution is to kill the Flares faster |
| 02:32.53 | CIA-8 | - reduce some table ref lookups |
| 02:32.54 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 02:32.54 | kenlyric | 27 talent trees in the game, you can only take 25. drop smite priest and.... |
| 02:32.56 | ulic | he doesn't hardly every bring that toon anyways, only when we need an extra shackle on moroes, or for cleansing on maiden |
| 02:33.05 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: "target flares faster" |
| 02:33.29 | kenlyric | I liked maiden. |
| 02:33.38 | kenlyric | silly pallies with their BoSanc |
| 02:33.45 | kenlyric | step into the fire, pansies! |
| 02:33.53 | Diao | bosac you mean |
| 02:33.54 | Diao | :p |
| 02:34.01 | kenlyric | do I? |
| 02:34.11 | Diao | sanc is a different ability |
| 02:34.16 | ulic | yea I do with my shammy, works well, unless you have to stand there for too long because she doesn't cast it. |
| 02:34.32 | ulic | but a good tank to move her and free one healer gets the job done too |
| 02:34.41 | kenlyric | the one no. |
| 02:35.02 | kenlyric | I don't know what I was trying to type there, but I was agreeing. |
| 02:35.14 | Diao | lol |
| 02:35.50 | kenlyric | i hated when she'd go after a pally and not catch me in a pulse. And then the tank would bring her back off center. |
| 02:36.09 | Diao | go after a pally? |
| 02:36.10 | Diao | o_O |
| 02:36.22 | Diao | i've never seen her switch targets except to cast holy fire |
| 02:36.26 | kenlyric | because I rode the edge of concecrate like a razor. |
| 02:36.35 | kenlyric | she does if you BoSac the tank... |
| 02:36.46 | Diao | wtf |
| 02:36.50 | Diao | our pallies bosac me all the time |
| 02:36.52 | kenlyric | or she did. |
| 02:36.55 | Diao | and she never switches targets |
| 02:36.55 | Diao | lol |
| 02:37.34 | kenlyric | I always assumed she temporarily wiped threat during repentance |
| 02:38.07 | ulic | no, she always stays on the MT for us |
| 02:38.40 | kenlyric | well, something made her go after pallies, so we had them BoSac the melee dps |
| 02:38.46 | RaydenUni | who? |
| 02:38.50 | RaydenUni | oh maiden? |
| 02:39.17 | RaydenUni | for some reason her dispellable debuff doesn't show up on pitbull for me |
| 02:39.24 | RaydenUni | i don't know if i set it up wrong or what |
| 02:39.31 | RaydenUni | but it's kind of hard to play with it during the event |
| 02:39.44 | ulic | you should do the melee anyways since they don't take any addition damage from here other then the consecrates |
| 02:40.09 | Diao | do you have buff filters enabled |
| 02:40.30 | ulic | RaydenUni: or 'curable by you' section maybe |
| 02:40.53 | ulic | i run pitbull with show all and I see the frames highlighted in blue |
| 02:40.54 | kenlyric | I liked before... 2.1? when she'd holy fire and then repent. |
| 02:41.22 | RaydenUni | i just set up a macro to dispel whatever i hover over and then just cast it on all the raid |
| 02:42.48 | kenlyric | if you've ever wondered what target of target of target is for. |
| 02:42.55 | kenlyric | and you don't have grid. |
| 02:42.59 | kenlyric | maiden is the place to find out. |
| 02:43.06 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 02:43.09 | RaydenUni | what for? |
| 02:43.11 | kenlyric | ToToT is the one you dispel |
| 02:43.47 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 02:43.55 | RaydenUni | who is target there? |
| 02:44.08 | kenlyric | ToToT is the boss's target. |
| 02:44.17 | kenlyric | (usually) |
| 02:44.30 | kenlyric | so when she switches, you dispel that person. |
| 02:44.31 | RaydenUni | but if i'm targetting the boss then it would be ToT |
| 02:44.38 | Diao | if you're a healer |
| 02:44.41 | dylanm | Okay but in this example you aren't |
| 02:44.42 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 02:44.42 | Aenslaed | does anyone know if sraidframes is getting a pet catagory soon? |
| 02:44.43 | Diao | you should be targetting the mt |
| 02:44.45 | RaydenUni | i'm shadow priest |
| 02:44.51 | Diao | ;p |
| 02:44.51 | RaydenUni | i see |
| 02:44.53 | RaydenUni | that makes sense |
| 02:45.06 | RaydenUni | i'll use that next time |
| 02:45.15 | kenlyric | i got grid in the middle of learning maiden, but I found that useful. |
| 02:45.19 | kenlyric | grid is just better. |
| 02:45.20 | RaydenUni | what is grid? |
| 02:46.01 | Diao | grid is a very very compact unitframe replacement |
| 02:46.13 | RaydenUni | link? |
| 02:46.16 | Zhinjio | "Re |
| 02:46.18 | Diao | although you can use it specifically for raid frames |
| 02:46.25 | Diao | uh |
| 02:46.30 | kenlyric | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid |
| 02:47.08 | NightHawkTheSane | itdoesn't HAVE to be compact, it just is by default, relative to most others |
| 02:47.12 | RaydenUni | pitbull is kind of annoying to set up for raid frames |
| 02:47.20 | Diao | pitbull raid frames lag terribly |
| 02:47.22 | NightHawkTheSane | its kind of annoying to set up period |
| 02:47.22 | Diao | :( |
| 02:47.33 | kenlyric | don't try to switch to it all at once, as the compact data will confuse you and you will require time to set it up. |
| 02:47.45 | RaydenUni | true NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:47.52 | RaydenUni | how does grid make it so you don't need ToToT? |
| 02:48.00 | Diao | it shows debuffs |
| 02:48.05 | Diao | by highlighting the frame |
| 02:48.06 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 02:48.06 | Diao | with markers |
| 02:48.09 | RaydenUni | pitbull does that |
| 02:48.18 | RaydenUni | perhaps a cleaner interface though |
| 02:48.19 | kenlyric | by default as a big fucking icon. |
| 02:48.24 | kenlyric | yes, but in a very tiny space |
| 02:48.31 | Diao | my grid is very complicated tbh |
| 02:48.37 | kenlyric | mine too |
| 02:48.41 | Diao | i have a ton of status modules that are all cohesive |
| 02:48.50 | kenlyric | especially now that top/bottom/right/left can do icons. Could they always do icons? |
| 02:48.57 | Diao | nope, it's a plugin |
| 02:49.07 | xyu` | I just wish Grid would form to whatever group size you're in, instead of "layouts" (i've said this before, i know) and i'll say it again :P |
| 02:49.08 | kenlyric | sexified. |
| 02:49.17 | kenlyric | moved them off the center icon, since it obscures health |
| 02:49.30 | RaydenUni | pitbull raid sucks when you switch between 10 and 40 man |
| 02:49.47 | Diao | yssgridlayout |
| 02:49.51 | Diao | does that doesn't it xyu` |
| 02:50.06 | xyu` | yssgridlayout? hmm i haven't tried it but if it idoes, i'll surely look into it |
| 02:50.11 | xyu` | it's something i've wanted for quite some time |
| 02:50.17 | xyu` | especially for 3 man groups etc |
| 02:50.23 | kenlyric | all I'd realy like out of grid is that missing buffs and possibly debuffs modules to store class-specific settings. |
| 02:50.36 | xyu` | i use profiles for that ken |
| 02:50.36 | Diao | buffs and debuffs modules? o_O |
| 02:50.36 | kenlyric | pretty sure grid grows dynamically until you are in a raid. |
| 02:50.43 | xyu` | it doesn't |
| 02:50.49 | xyu` | well for riad |
| 02:50.53 | xyu` | raid is what i'm talking about |
| 02:50.56 | Diao | i just use grid layout 40 |
| 02:50.58 | Diao | by groups |
| 02:51.01 | kenlyric | xyu`: yeah, I don't want to do profiles, which is why I want char-specific storage for those settings. |
| 02:51.02 | Diao | and it autofills |
| 02:51.04 | kenlyric | 3 man raids? |
| 02:51.05 | Diao | with the background disabled |
| 02:51.10 | Diao | that way it looks like it just grows |
| 02:51.13 | Diao | with no wasted space |
| 02:51.15 | Diao | :) |
| 02:51.17 | kenlyric | oh, that's probably what I do :) |
| 02:51.20 | xyu` | ken |
| 02:51.23 | xyu` | for pvp purposes |
| 02:51.30 | xyu` | like halaa and such |
| 02:51.47 | Diao | yea just disable the background |
| 02:51.50 | Diao | then it looks nice and clean |
| 02:51.51 | Diao | lol |
| 02:51.53 | xyu` | people come and go often. I've comprimised by always having a 40man layout. |
| 02:52.17 | xyu` | (i actually heal in AV) heh |
| 02:52.34 | Diao | me too |
| 02:52.37 | kenlyric | lots of other mods use default profile and store char-specific things along with profile-wide things. decursive, for one, |
| 02:52.43 | Diao | i need to change my ui again though |
| 02:52.57 | RaydenUni | so i have an issue with pitbull |
| 02:52.57 | kenlyric | but it's a small thing really. |
| 02:52.57 | RaydenUni | you know how it uses a range finder? |
| 02:52.57 | kenlyric | I just live with the "missing fort" icons on my hunter :) |
| 02:52.58 | Diao | i don't think it's as efficient as it could be |
| 02:53.01 | Diao | what about it |
| 02:53.08 | RaydenUni | and it attempts to shade group members who are too far away? |
| 02:53.11 | RaydenUni | fades them |
| 02:53.18 | kenlyric | that works? |
| 02:53.19 | Diao | uh huh |
| 02:53.20 | RaydenUni | well mine seems to fade often when they are close |
| 02:53.25 | Diao | combatfader |
| 02:53.25 | RaydenUni | like sometimes MY frame is faded |
| 02:53.26 | Diao | most likely |
| 02:53.28 | RaydenUni | oph |
| 02:53.30 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 02:53.30 | xyu` | mine fades my OWN player bar |
| 02:53.30 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 02:53.32 | xyu` | quite annoying |
| 02:53.36 | RaydenUni | i should turn that off then |
| 02:53.36 | kenlyric | too far away from yourself. |
| 02:53.41 | kenlyric | stop speedhacking |
| 02:53.46 | Lukian | sit closer to the screen |
| 02:53.49 | RaydenUni | combat fader doesn't help at all for healing in AV |
| 02:53.50 | xyu` | all those out of body experiences |
| 02:53.57 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: it's wonderful in grid. |
| 02:54.04 | xyu` | Yes it is, omg |
| 02:54.05 | kenlyric | especially if you turn the strata down far enough. |
| 02:54.11 | xyu` | i use it to see if everyone is "ready" before a pull even |
| 02:54.12 | kenlyric | People out of range *disappear* |
| 02:54.36 | xyu` | that's risky though |
| 02:54.44 | Diao | lol |
| 02:54.45 | xyu` | There's that few yards where it says they're out of range |
| 02:54.47 | xyu` | but they're reeally not. |
| 02:54.57 | Diao | well |
| 02:54.58 | xyu` | it's usually when they FIRST come into range |
| 02:54.58 | Diao | out of range |
| 02:55.00 | kenlyric | I turned it back up from completely off because it sometimes takes a second for them to update as in range. |
| 02:55.02 | Diao | is based on your abilities |
| 02:55.14 | kenlyric | so now I can still see them, but they're fairly faded that I can tell who is in range. |
| 02:55.34 | RaydenUni | i'm not healing much lately so it isn't too important to me |
| 02:55.55 | RaydenUni | but #1 feature i want improved in pitbull is improved editing interface :/ |
| 02:56.03 | kenlyric | then you can see who should be healing you :) |
| 02:56.06 | xyu` | i only have eyes for grid now a days, even on my tank i stare at the grid bar to judge how much damage i'm taking. |
| 02:56.21 | xyu` | if i look at the pitbul frame i have no idea how to judge it |
| 02:56.28 | kenlyric | once you get used to grid you'll get clickcasting. |
| 02:56.30 | xyu` | just doesn't feel right |
| 02:56.41 | Diao | lol |
| 02:56.43 | kenlyric | then you'll see stars and delight and wonder |
| 02:56.52 | kenlyric | and wish you had more mouse buttons |
| 02:56.52 | RaydenUni | clickcasting? |
| 02:56.54 | xyu` | i'm not a big macroer so i use Clique. does a lot of macroesque things for me. |
| 02:56.55 | kadrahil | click casting for ranged dps? :X |
| 02:57.00 | xyu` | like "harmful targets" "helpful" |
| 02:57.01 | Diao | what's wrong with the editing in pitbull |
| 02:57.15 | RaydenUni | it's confusing and enormous |
| 02:57.32 | RaydenUni | there is no easy way to adjust "most" things |
| 02:57.42 | xyu` | Global options! |
| 02:57.42 | RaydenUni | say i want every frame except my own to put debuff icons on the right |
| 02:58.01 | kenlyric | is there a "change this for all unitframes" setting (aka, General) |
| 02:58.10 | RaydenUni | yeah but then that changes my own |
| 02:58.13 | Xinhuan | you can call me a clicker atm, cos i rebound everything to my mouse, my other arm is in a cast ;p |
| 02:58.17 | RaydenUni | there is no override that i saw |
| 02:58.23 | kenlyric | you can't then just change your own back? |
| 02:58.23 | xyu` | isn't there a category just for that? I'm not in game so i can't check but i'm pretty sure there was a "global frame" menu |
| 02:58.23 | Xinhuan | yes, i clickcast rostbolts lolol |
| 02:58.28 | Xinhuan | frostbolts |
| 02:58.32 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: clicking is good for a healer :) |
| 02:58.49 | kenlyric | oh, frost mage? same thing. |
| 02:58.51 | xyu` | i use clique for decurse, i haven't tried fireballs lol |
| 02:58.54 | kenlyric | you don't need to click anything else. |
| 02:59.10 | xyu` | my mouse already gets enough abuse |
| 02:59.41 | kenlyric | I use four mouse buttons (the fifth is bound to autorun) and all three modifiers plus CTRL-ALT modifier combo |
| 02:59.55 | Xinhuan | i can't use modifers |
| 02:59.55 | kenlyric | (CTRL-ALT-button) casts buffs for PvP. |
| 02:59.57 | xyu` | clickcasting frostbolts is as bad as clicking an action bar anyway :P |
| 03:00.04 | Xinhuan | because i only have 1 hand |
| 03:00.20 | kenlyric | which is why I want a mod to make the process somehow go quicker. |
| 03:00.22 | RaydenUni | modifiers are odd |
| 03:00.23 | xyu` | what class ken? |
| 03:00.24 | Xinhuan | i broke my other one a few days ago :( |
| 03:00.27 | RaydenUni | because they are used for different things |
| 03:00.38 | RaydenUni | i can use modifiers to swap my bars in bartender, but also for self cast |
| 03:00.57 | xyu` | my pally only needed a downranked holy light, flash of light, max holy light, and cleanse. (for defensive stuff) |
| 03:01.08 | Diao | that reminds me |
| 03:01.11 | Diao | i picked up modality yesterday |
| 03:01.14 | RaydenUni | there is a global option for making friendly spells cast on you when targetting an enemy right? |
| 03:01.15 | Diao | i should set it up for my priest |
| 03:01.17 | kenlyric | modifier plus keybinding is different than modifier + mouseclick. |
| 03:01.19 | RaydenUni | modality? |
| 03:01.21 | Diao | yeah auto-selfcast |
| 03:01.24 | Diao | yea RaydenUni |
| 03:01.27 | RaydenUni | i should do that |
| 03:01.32 | Diao | modality is a mod for bt3 |
| 03:01.36 | Diao | advanced state paging |
| 03:01.40 | Jaxon | RaydenUni: that is built into the UI now. |
| 03:01.45 | RaydenUni | alt+1 while self targetting with "f" is a pain when i'm trying to run away in pvp :P |
| 03:01.49 | RaydenUni | alt+1 is shield |
| 03:02.05 | xyu` | that is bulit in the interface options |
| 03:02.07 | xyu` | built8 |
| 03:02.26 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: the default UI will fail if you have a friendly targeted without Alt pressed |
| 03:02.33 | kenlyric | even if they're out of range |
| 03:02.52 | kenlyric | or whatever your self-casting modifier is. |
| 03:03.01 | RaydenUni | i don't think i have one... |
| 03:03.03 | kenlyric | it's the one thing that bugs me. Particularly with npcs |
| 03:03.08 | RaydenUni | i know what the problem was |
| 03:03.10 | kenlyric | by default it's alt. |
| 03:03.20 | RaydenUni | alt is set to modify bartender to use my "healing bar" |
| 03:03.30 | RaydenUni | then i tried to use shift to be my self cast modifier and that doesn't work |
| 03:03.34 | RaydenUni | alt-shift-heal |
| 03:03.51 | kenlyric | oh... keybound paging makes me weezy. |
| 03:04.00 | RaydenUni | how do you do it? |
| 03:04.01 | kenlyric | doesn't work for me |
| 03:04.19 | RaydenUni | with my priest i easily have 3 bars for spells and i need 2 of them at any time |
| 03:04.27 | kenlyric | I display them all :) |
| 03:04.32 | RaydenUni | works well for my rogue too, put all my finishers on alt |
| 03:04.45 | xyu` | i only display spells with cooldowns and spells i need to know the range on like fireball |
| 03:04.52 | kenlyric | I do bind them to a modifier, but I don't page. |
| 03:04.56 | xyu` | so i only have like 12 bars up total |
| 03:04.57 | kenlyric | xyu`: yeah yeah |
| 03:05.58 | xyu` | paging always screwed me up, especially in pvp. i'd end up hitting shift mousewheel for some reason and it'd cycle through all the pages and end up where i can't see anything >_< |
| 03:06.05 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2007-11-23_kenlyric.jpg |
| 03:06.36 | kenlyric | basically, if it's something I can do, I want a button for it. Mostly because I constantly change my mind about the best binding for stuff. |
| 03:06.40 | RaydenUni | why do you hit mousewheel? |
| 03:06.49 | RaydenUni | so you click on the buttons? |
| 03:06.51 | xyu` | zoom in and out |
| 03:06.54 | kenlyric | no |
| 03:06.58 | RaydenUni | why would you be zooming a lot in pvp? |
| 03:07.02 | xyu` | no idea |
| 03:07.04 | kenlyric | well, I do when i'm making a fire. |
| 03:07.07 | xyu` | habbit |
| 03:07.10 | kenlyric | and disenchanting :) |
| 03:07.23 | RaydenUni | i usually stay zoomed out and habitually zoom out more to trigger my auto buff |
| 03:07.24 | kenlyric | mousewheel is bound to SSR. I mousewheel a LOT |
| 03:07.39 | RaydenUni | yep SSR |
| 03:07.48 | RaydenUni | but usually outside of combat i guess |
| 03:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ssr? |
| 03:08.10 | RaydenUni | simple self rebuff |
| 03:08.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 03:08.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i should look into that |
| 03:08.19 | kenlyric | yeah, doing it in combat is habit from before 2.0.1 (or 1.12?) when you could do that in combat. |
| 03:08.21 | RaydenUni | tell it what buffs you want and then you can click on button to cast them |
| 03:08.22 | kenlyric | great for inner fire. |
| 03:08.27 | Diao | what's with the double buffs? o_O |
| 03:08.32 | RaydenUni | yeah i wish you could auto cast inner fire in combat |
| 03:08.41 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: has everything but the pally... errr, the the 30 second things. |
| 03:08.47 | NightHawkTheSane | seals |
| 03:08.49 | kenlyric | double buffs? |
| 03:08.56 | kenlyric | on my shot? |
| 03:08.58 | Diao | yea |
| 03:09.00 | RaydenUni | is blizzard every going to fix the bug where prayer of fortitude doesn't override power word fortitude? |
| 03:09.06 | kenlyric | because I'm targeting myself. |
| 03:09.17 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: how is that a bug? |
| 03:09.17 | Diao | oh that's target buffs |
| 03:09.30 | kenlyric | it's longer, it should overwrite. |
| 03:09.34 | RaydenUni | i know |
| 03:09.36 | RaydenUni | but it doesn't |
| 03:09.41 | kenlyric | oh. |
| 03:09.48 | kenlyric | i missed the crucial n't somehow. |
| 03:10.05 | kenlyric | it won't if your PW:F is weaker. I've never seen it happen otherwise. |
| 03:10.22 | RaydenUni | no, both mine |
| 03:10.25 | kenlyric | maybe i just never noticed. |
| 03:11.16 | kenlyric | Diao: it's target debuffs too. ON boss fights it stretches up pretty high. |
| 03:11.24 | kenlyric | which basically for me means drek :) |
| 03:11.52 | Diao | ah |
| 03:12.19 | xyu` | I always htought that the PW:F thing didn't overwrite because the person who cast the 30min was specced into it and therefore it was considered more "powerful" |
| 03:12.26 | xyu` | maybe not tho :) |
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| 03:14.29 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 03:14.32 | RaydenUni | they can both be mine |
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| 03:19.01 | Knaledge | does bigwigs have a bomb alarm for solaarian? |
| 03:19.25 | Knaledge | like some type of indicator about who has bomb? so they know when to run out |
| 03:19.35 | Diao | yes |
| 03:20.00 | Diao | text warning, timer, markings(if RL/RA) |
| 03:20.03 | Diao | and whispers optional |
| 03:20.56 | Knaledge | ok cool |
| 03:21.02 | Knaledge | and if I'm the only one using bigwigs |
| 03:21.04 | Knaledge | ? |
| 03:21.14 | NightHawkTheSane | this is going to sound stupid, but is there any way to keep your client from being auto-logged out due to afkness? |
| 03:21.16 | Diao | then it will warn you who has the bomb |
| 03:21.25 | Knaledge | ok cool |
| 03:21.32 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: hahahaha, no :) |
| 03:21.44 | kenlyric | well, no legal way |
| 03:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't think so, just checking |
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| 03:23.01 | Knaledge | wrath is the bomb? |
| 03:23.29 | Antiarc | http://www.stage6.com/user/Surgee/video/1910919/World-of-Warcraft---Unofficial-Patch-Trailer-by-Surgee <-- lol |
| 03:24.09 | kenlyric | it's distressing to me how infrequently I cast Gheal these days. |
| 03:24.17 | kenlyric | I really should rework my spec. |
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| 03:33.11 | Xuerian | What, auto-running into a corner doesn't work anymore? |
| 03:33.18 | Diao | never did work |
| 03:33.20 | Diao | lol |
| 03:33.25 | Xuerian | I've been lied to! |
| 03:33.51 | kenlyric | anyone have any links to healing pvp or raiding imp spirit priests? armory links I mean, since wowhead is down. |
| 03:34.29 | Diao | raiding is 23/38 afaik |
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| 03:34.33 | Diao | pvp nobody gets imp DS afaik |
| 03:34.54 | kenlyric | right, but it's the implementation of 23/38 I want to see variety on. |
| 03:35.36 | kenlyric | (see if there is variety, that is) |
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| 03:35.42 | buu | GET LIGHTWELL. |
| 03:35.56 | kenlyric | trying to build a healing pvp priest is not as easy at looks. |
| 03:36.12 | kenlyric | buu: sorry, I don't hate tiny puppies |
| 03:36.36 | kenlyric | oh, wait, that's imp shield where god kills puppies everytime someone specs into it. |
| 03:37.28 | Diao | for pvp either 28/33 or full disc |
| 03:37.40 | kenlyric | see, I know the numbers. |
| 03:37.52 | kenlyric | I need actual examples to work with. |
| 03:37.58 | kenlyric | And not the craptastic wowwiki ones |
| 03:38.00 | Diao | you want disc/holy or full disc |
| 03:38.01 | Diao | for pvp? |
| 03:38.04 | WobWork | Inquisitor Xinhuan. BRING... THE COMFY CHAIR |
| 03:38.05 | kenlyric | specs from real winners |
| 03:38.20 | kenlyric | both, any, doesn't matter. |
| 03:38.36 | kenlyric | just trying to get a feel for which way the wind blows. |
| 03:38.45 | hyperChipmunk | the comfy chair!?! |
| 03:39.10 | Tinyboom | yay for ptr stying alive on maint^^ |
| 03:39.44 | Diao | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?5052023130525102031011230550100300000000000000000000000000000000 <- most common full disc |
| 03:39.51 | Diao | occasionally people shift some points around |
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| 03:41.24 | Diao | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?5052022130020100000000230551102302150530000000000000000000000000 disc/holy |
| 03:41.33 | Diao | whoops |
| 03:41.38 | Diao | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?5052022130020100000000230551102302150500300000000000000000000000 |
| 03:41.39 | Diao | that one actually |
| 03:42.02 | kenlyric | and people actually cast greater heal in arenas? |
| 03:42.23 | xyu` | bad people |
| 03:42.26 | xyu` | who i like to counterspel |
| 03:42.27 | xyu` | l |
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| 03:42.36 | Diao | yes |
| 03:42.47 | Diao | you can't CS when they're around a corner ; |
| 03:42.48 | Diao | ;)* |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r56593 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | BankItems: |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | BankItems Guild Bank (BIGB) frame is now movable. |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | Transparency, scale and movement settings now also apply on BIGB. |
| 03:46.08 | kenlyric | since healing now gets spell damage too, I suppose we're not lucky enough to have spiritual healing apply to damage... |
| 03:46.52 | nabil | ANyoen here think they canhelp witha hunter pet mod? |
| 03:47.04 | nabil | SOrry for all my typoes |
| 03:49.14 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Bahahahaha |
| 03:49.18 | Xuerian | Antiarc: That was golden |
| 03:49.57 | kenlyric | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?5052023130525102031021230550300000000000000000000000000000000000 might be something I could go for. |
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| 04:05.05 | Xinhuan | Xuerian, i don't see Antiarc talking :o |
| 04:05.25 | Xuerian | http://www.stage6.com/user/Surgee/video/1910919/World-of-Warcraft---Unofficial-Patch-Trailer-by-Surgee |
| 04:05.33 | Xuerian | He linked that |
| 04:05.40 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 04:05.58 | Xinhuan | hey Antiarc, did you test out the guild panel thing yet? |
| 04:06.21 | Lukian | thing? |
| 04:06.40 | Antiarc | Heh, not yet |
| 04:06.50 | Xinhuan | just an annoying bug that annoys guild leaders that i fixed |
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| 04:08.55 | Xinhuan | that video is stuck on buffering 0% for me |
| 04:09.31 | kenlyric | it's like slow. |
| 04:09.34 | kenlyric | really really slow |
| 04:11.58 | Xinhuan | i don't think slow means stuck on 0% for 5 min |
| 04:12.51 | Lukian | Xinhuan, oh so I should update my addons and see if that's working? :) |
| 04:13.33 | Xinhuan | i made a change to libroster so it doesn't reset the guild control panel every 15 sec |
| 04:13.41 | Lukian | excellent |
| 04:14.08 | Xinhuan | try it and see if it works, since its working on my end |
| 04:14.22 | Lukian | 15secs hehe, I always wondered how much time I had to make the changes I needed to XD |
| 04:14.38 | Lukian | I see so many Rank 1: players with the "Guild Master" title now |
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| 04:18.25 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r56594 10Cartographer_Sidelist/ (Cartographer_Sidelist.lua Cartographer_Sidelist.toc): |
| 04:18.25 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_Sidelist: tablet changes |
| 04:18.25 | CIA-8 | - removed unneeded functions and calls |
| 04:18.26 | CIA-8 | - reimplement sidelist tablet using our own so we have more control over it |
| 04:18.26 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.27 | CIA-8 | - handle opening/closing sidelist better |
| 04:18.29 | CIA-8 | - TOC bump |
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| 04:20.21 | Aenslaed | does anyone know if sraidframes is going to have raid pet frames? |
| 04:22.27 | RaydenUni | Sharpened Claws any good for levellign? |
| 04:23.17 | kenlyric | god yes |
| 04:23.29 | kenlyric | at the very least, for primal fury |
| 04:24.14 | RaydenUni | it's that or feral instinct |
| 04:24.18 | RaydenUni | my crit seems very low |
| 04:24.24 | RaydenUni | 4% without it |
| 04:24.39 | Xuerian | good lord |
| 04:24.43 | Xuerian | Why would you not take that |
| 04:24.47 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 04:24.51 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously |
| 04:25.01 | RaydenUni | i guess now that i think of it |
| 04:25.03 | RaydenUni | doubled my crit |
| 04:25.15 | RaydenUni | do druids care about crit as much as rogues? |
| 04:25.18 | NightHawkTheSane | moreso |
| 04:25.27 | RaydenUni | are there other procs? |
| 04:25.28 | Xuerian | Without that I'd have only 28% crit |
| 04:25.37 | Xuerian | Which is dumb :( |
| 04:25.43 | kenlyric | remember, when you are leveling, you are kitty. |
| 04:25.44 | NightHawkTheSane | imp lotp, primal fury |
| 04:25.45 | RaydenUni | Primal Fury procs on crit |
| 04:26.04 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, you'll eventually be dealing 10% extra damage on crits |
| 04:26.22 | RaydenUni | from? |
| 04:26.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Primal Instinct |
| 04:26.37 | RaydenUni | Predatory Instincts? |
| 04:26.39 | Lukian | predatory instincts |
| 04:26.47 | NightHawkTheSane | er predatory instincts, yes |
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| 04:26.53 | RaydenUni | k |
| 04:26.56 | RaydenUni | this is dumb |
| 04:27.02 | RaydenUni | the 23 pally is going to tank and my 24 druid is going to heal |
| 04:27.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Stacked with the 20% extra base from savage fury, and the 10% extra base from Naturalist |
| 04:27.05 | NightHawkTheSane | crits do stupid huge damage |
| 04:27.21 | Xuerian | Mangle crit for me: 1400. FB non-crit: 1000 |
| 04:27.34 | Xuerian | mangle crits every other hit |
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| 04:27.48 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r56595 10BankItems/ (5 files): |
| 04:27.48 | CIA-8 | BankItems: |
| 04:27.48 | CIA-8 | Added show all realms checkbox to BIGB. |
| 04:27.48 | CIA-8 | Added keybinding to open BIGB. |
| 04:27.55 | Xuerian | If omen of clarity pops I can crit four times in a row, 1400/1400/1400/3400 |
| 04:28.43 | RaydenUni | who can heal better at 24? pallies or druids? |
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| 04:29.26 | NightHawkTheSane | at 24 I don't imagine there's a huge difference |
| 04:29.30 | kenlyric | it's 24. it honestly doesn't matter. |
| 04:30.10 | Xuerian | Druids are probably a little easier with hots. The differences are persistent, easier to big-heal on pallies, easier to maintain steady damage on a druid |
| 04:30.29 | RaydenUni | the other will be tanking |
| 04:31.02 | Lukian | have the druid tank |
| 04:33.22 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56596 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Robustificationism of the cartographical tooltipulation. |
| 04:33.30 | Kemayo | Kuja^: I think that should fix that problem. |
| 04:34.28 | Lukian | Kemayo, I just noticed it didn't work on Volchan |
| 04:35.10 | sedatedChipmunk | Kemayo: lol |
| 04:35.37 | Kemayo | Lukian: Didn't warn of him? |
| 04:35.42 | sedatedChipmunk | nice descriptionality |
| 04:36.04 | Lukian | Kemayo, yeah, i moused over and clicked on him and nothing |
| 04:36.14 | Kemayo | Lukian: Okay, I'll hunt down a rare to test it on. |
| 04:41.55 | Kemayo | ...the problem, of course, is that reliably findable rares are sort of tricky to obtain. |
| 04:42.44 | kenlyric | nobody ever kills volchan :) |
| 04:42.52 | Stanzilla | eastern plaguelands |
| 04:42.57 | Stanzilla | that nasty spider |
| 04:43.49 | Lukian | I've found an abundance of rares since BC |
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| 04:44.08 | kenlyric | you mean in outland? or just all over? |
| 04:44.14 | Lukian | in azeroth |
| 04:44.15 | Kemayo | All over. |
| 04:44.20 | Lukian | 'cause no one kills them anymore |
| 04:44.32 | Kemayo | They're more likely to be up, yeah. It's still a pain tracking one down, though. |
| 04:44.39 | kenlyric | I do know that in outlands rares replaced a lot of static chests. |
| 04:44.43 | Lukian | hehe true |
| 04:44.43 | Stanzilla | zanga has one |
| 04:44.51 | Stanzilla | shadowmoon has 2 |
| 04:44.53 | kenlyric | isn't that what silverdragon is for? |
| 04:45.06 | Kemayo | kenlyric: Well, *yes*. But still. :P |
| 04:51.55 | Lukian | Kemayo, odd, It just worked on volchan |
| 04:52.03 | Lukian | hmm, does it perhaps not work in combat? |
| 04:52.29 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo 07Ace3 * r56597 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Misplaced parens in the various XP text functions was flooring too early, fixing all at 0. |
| 04:52.43 | Lukian | actually it said "volchan seen" but didn't log anything |
| 04:53.12 | Kemayo | Ah, that helps, thank you. |
| 04:53.35 | Kemayo | Oh, wait -- were you close to an existing sighting of Volchan? |
| 04:53.45 | Lukian | no sighting of him at all |
| 04:54.09 | Kemayo | Nuts. |
| 04:54.59 | Lukian | groovy, so I assume you fixed the 2+ map notes in the same spot thing? :D |
| 04:55.22 | Kemayo | Yup. It'll only record a new location if you're within 5% of the map. |
| 04:55.35 | Kemayo | Ahem. *Not* within 5%. |
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| 04:59.48 | QuantumDelta | !seen ckknight |
| 05:00.00 | QuantumDelta | shoot |
| 05:00.03 | Stanzilla | it's ~ |
| 05:00.06 | Stanzilla | not ! |
| 05:00.14 | QuantumDelta | ! = whisper |
| 05:00.15 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 05:00.20 | Stanzilla | and he was here ~4 hours ago :p |
| 05:00.26 | QuantumDelta | 7 hours |
| 05:00.26 | QuantumDelta | ! |
| 05:00.31 | Stanzilla | k |
| 05:01.05 | QuantumDelta | just wanted to poke him and see if he knew any cause of mass FPS loss on pitbull with this patch |
| 05:01.20 | QuantumDelta | doesn't seem to be effecting everyone so i wonder if it's a conflict with another addon :< |
| 05:02.17 | Stanzilla | I'm still looking for someone that can add BabbleMount-2.2 to the LoD script of Babble-2.2 |
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| 05:12.52 | Kemayo | Lukian: Ah, it didn't set the note because you didn't get very close to it. |
| 05:13.13 | Lukian | well I wouldn't want to with Volchan :p |
| 05:13.14 | Kemayo | (Probably.) |
| 05:13.15 | Lukian | haha |
| 05:13.20 | Lukian | I'll go check now |
| 05:14.56 | Lukian | he got added as level ?+ |
| 05:15.02 | Lukian | on my 49 lock |
| 05:15.13 | CIA-8 | 03nargiddley 07Beta * r56598 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-EditBox.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Fire OnEnter and OnLeave events for the EditBox widget |
| 05:15.23 | Lukian | yeah, range thing |
| 05:15.32 | Lukian | can you extend it? |
| 05:16.56 | Kemayo | The difficulty is the lack of range checks -- I'm trying to avoid wildly inaccurate locations recorded from the far distance. |
| 05:17.30 | Lukian | mmm yeah |
| 05:17.51 | Kemayo | Problem is that all I have is "is it closer than 30 yards?" |
| 05:18.49 | Lukian | it'd be so nice if there was an api function to check the position of the mob you are targetting |
| 05:19.11 | Xinhuan | that api |
| 05:19.16 | Xinhuan | got removed 2 years ago |
| 05:19.24 | Xinhuan | it existed once |
| 05:19.34 | NivFreak | has anyone else noticed that tab targeting went to hell in 2.3? |
| 05:19.44 | Xinhuan | NivFreak, no |
| 05:19.50 | Xinhuan | the limit is 50 yards |
| 05:19.58 | Xinhuan | and is enforced now |
| 05:19.59 | NivFreak | but the way it works changed |
| 05:20.06 | Xinhuan | how so? |
| 05:20.07 | NivFreak | I used to tab and get mobs in front of me |
| 05:20.13 | NivFreak | now I tab and get mobs all over |
| 05:20.16 | NivFreak | some way to far away |
| 05:20.21 | NivFreak | some in the wrong directions |
| 05:20.29 | xyu` | hmm weird, not me. |
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| 05:20.35 | Xinhuan | that is correct functionality, it also tabs to mobs in a 5 yard range behind you |
| 05:20.48 | Xinhuan | in addition to mobs 50 yards ahead of you in a cone |
| 05:21.00 | NivFreak | but I'm just saying |
| 05:21.05 | NivFreak | the behavior changed |
| 05:21.15 | xyu` | I used to be able to tab target PC's through walls in things like WSG, now often times that doesn't work (even though they are there) |
| 05:21.17 | Xinhuan | well, i didn't notice any change |
| 05:21.18 | xyu` | sometimes it does though |
| 05:21.22 | NivFreak | I notice it the most in kara, doing the ballroom pulls before moroes |
| 05:21.33 | NivFreak | I tab through the aoe packs while on the stairs |
| 05:21.39 | NivFreak | and get elites up on the next level |
| 05:21.57 | Xinhuan | you aren't intended to be able to tab target thru walls |
| 05:22.04 | xyu` | but you can |
| 05:22.09 | Xinhuan | that was changed in patch 2.1 or 2.2 |
| 05:22.25 | xyu` | i still use it when on the roof of WSG |
| 05:22.28 | xyu` | and someone comes in ramp |
| 05:22.52 | xyu` | if i'm spamming next target, it will target them before they get to the balcony, in which case i can sheep/fireball/am :P |
| 05:22.54 | Xinhuan | it works somestimes, just not all the time |
| 05:24.01 | Xinhuan | honestly if there was any change in behavior, the UI forums would be full of it, like in patch 2.1 |
| 05:25.33 | xyu` | Is tab targeting defaulted at 50 yards, or do we still need to edit the file and set it to 50? |
| 05:25.46 | Xinhuan | max is 50 |
| 05:25.56 | Xinhuan | default is 30 i think |
| 05:25.59 | xyu` | right, but there is no in game option |
| 05:26.15 | Xinhuan | which is the range of most spells/abilities |
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| 05:26.48 | xyu` | i set mine to 45, just in case i do tab target, tho i try not to anyways. |
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| 05:28.18 | Lonny | Can I do something like that http://wowi.pastey.net/78490 ? |
| 05:29.00 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:29.09 | Lonny | Thanks mate :) |
| 05:29.19 | Xinhuan | that is in fact, the common method used to sort tables |
| 05:29.35 | Lonny | ah ok thanks :P |
| 05:29.39 | Xinhuan | however |
| 05:29.48 | Xinhuan | note you are comparing strings |
| 05:29.53 | Xinhuan | in your example |
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| 05:30.25 | Diao | the reason you can't target through walls is the same reason many people experienced a fps loss :P |
| 05:30.36 | Diao | they doublerender walls to prevent us from targetting through them :( |
| 05:31.09 | xyu` | bastards |
| 05:31.24 | Diao | i don't know why they did it though |
| 05:31.30 | Diao | you can still target through the wall by using /target name |
| 05:31.36 | Diao | it's just annoying that you can't click it |
| 05:32.20 | Diao | and yeah my tab target has been behaving funny, when i tab, even if there's 3 mobs like 2 yards in front of me, sometimes it'll target a mob like 40 yards away for no reason whatsoever.. glad I'm a melee class |
| 05:32.21 | xyu` | i remember the mouse cursor used to change if i moved it over a wall slow enough, i assume i was targeting a mob through the wall :D |
| 05:33.52 | Xinhuan | you were |
| 05:34.31 | Lonny | Xinhuan, so I'm guessing it won't ? or do I have to do some extra stuff ? |
| 05:34.54 | Ozguli | I remember some addon let me define manually the tab target distance and angle |
| 05:35.01 | Xinhuan | nah, i'm saying it works Lonny |
| 05:35.11 | Lonny | ah ok :) |
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| 05:35.17 | Xinhuan | but you just have to be careful how computers handle string comparison |
| 05:35.28 | Xinhuan | "B" < "a" for eg |
| 05:35.39 | Lonny | ah yeah, I know that ;) |
| 05:35.42 | Xinhuan | and "2" < "11" |
| 05:35.50 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 05:35.56 | Xinhuan | and "11" < "2" ;p |
| 05:36.06 | Lukian | Kemayo, fail. |
| 05:36.48 | Lonny | yeah true :P |
| 05:36.49 | Lukian | uh what |
| 05:36.59 | Kemayo | Lukian: I fail at what? |
| 05:37.01 | Lukian | I just had two map notes next to each other and one disappeared |
| 05:37.14 | Kemayo | Oh, right, I forgot to commit an ordering change. |
| 05:37.50 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56599 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Cartographer note adding should be done *after* range-checking, not before. |
| 05:37.58 | Lukian | hehe |
| 05:38.28 | Kemayo | I've added "make GetPlayerMapPosition work on NPCs" to the data-API request thread. We'll see. |
| 05:39.25 | Lukian | awesome :) |
| 05:39.35 | Xinhuan | it won't be granted Kemayo |
| 05:39.43 | Xinhuan | slouken removed it in jan 2005 |
| 05:40.03 | Lukian | it was removed? :( |
| 05:40.03 | Xinhuan | the API once existed and was specifically removed |
| 05:40.16 | Xinhuan | so you cannot determine how far you are from your target |
| 05:40.38 | Lukian | wow, that'd actually be a good use for it |
| 05:40.41 | Xinhuan | there used to be addons that calculated and told you you were 26.366 yards away from your target |
| 05:41.11 | Xinhuan | and they removed the API to destroy these addons |
| 05:41.20 | Lukian | that seems stupid |
| 05:41.29 | Xinhuan | it wasn't |
| 05:41.35 | Lukian | unless the addons were doing other things which are disallowed |
| 05:41.45 | Xinhuan | you could CastSpellByName() last time |
| 05:42.29 | Xinhuan | in any case the api allowed botting to be easier |
| 05:42.59 | Xinhuan | since you could "tab target" to any distance and used such a mechanism to walk towards a mob |
| 05:43.22 | Xinhuan | you could walk using an addon previously too, AutoTravel |
| 05:43.53 | Lukian | yeah I used to use it |
| 05:44.05 | Aeyan | I really really miss the old hunter addon I had that switched pages on my primary action bar based on range =P |
| 05:44.22 | Aeyan | Oh well... the good old days, I suppose. |
| 05:44.29 | Lukian | that's another good use for it >< |
| 05:45.17 | Xinhuan | fact is, it got removed, no reason was given, and it is not likely it will be readded back |
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| 05:45.35 | Diao | just ilke targetbyname for addons |
| 05:45.37 | Diao | ;o |
| 05:45.41 | Diao | i liked that function |
| 05:46.24 | Diao | or enabling/disabling attack |
| 05:46.58 | Aeyan | Oh yeah, what was that old mod that turned on autoattack when something was in melee with you |
| 05:47.14 | Diao | i forget :( |
| 05:47.23 | Aeyan | Defend Yourself |
| 05:47.26 | Diao | i used to use it all the time for the auto-disable attack if target is cc'ed |
| 05:47.26 | Lukian | DefendYourself! |
| 05:47.30 | Stanzilla | I had that mod :D |
| 05:47.32 | Stanzilla | that was cool |
| 05:47.33 | Diao | it was amazing for tanks |
| 05:47.36 | Diao | cause you could tab through mobs |
| 05:47.37 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 05:47.40 | Diao | and not worry about accidentally breaking cc |
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| 05:57.32 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56600 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: can now add and remove anchors from the options |
| 05:57.36 | sdouble | can you /target something that won't target dead? |
| 05:57.55 | xyu` | is it possible to make an addon that if you tab target it'll only tab through marked targerts such as skull, diamond , etc. |
| 05:58.03 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:58.08 | Xinhuan | and no |
| 05:58.24 | Xinhuan | tab targetting cannot be affected by addons in any way |
| 05:58.27 | xyu` | bliz really should add this imo. |
| 05:59.45 | sdouble | I'd like to use raid icons solo |
| 06:00.00 | xyu` | why for? |
| 06:00.02 | sdouble | combined with /target, you can find things and see where they are through walls and such |
| 06:00.03 | sdouble | heh |
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| 06:00.36 | xyu` | i want to put raid icons on PCs ^^ |
| 06:00.47 | xyu` | so i can mark that annoying hunter w/ a big blue square |
| 06:00.56 | sdouble | perfect for a kill quest in a cave. you /target enemy then set raid icon |
| 06:01.00 | sdouble | you can find them anywhere |
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| 06:19.32 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56601 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.tw.lua: |
| 06:19.32 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 06:19.32 | CIA-8 | - bug fixed |
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| 06:46.07 | Andune | <3 Baggins_Search |
| 06:54.37 | Cyrez | Combuctor FTW. |
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| 07:17.20 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 07:31.51 | Orionshock | ...hello? |
| 07:34.03 | Xinhuan | hi |
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| 07:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | die! i mean.. hi |
| 07:34.23 | fridg | tpb down now too? |
| 07:34.25 | fridg | ffs |
| 07:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i.. get those two confused a lot |
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| 07:42.45 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r56602 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: koKR typo fix |
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| 07:45.53 | abyx | whats the name of the combat log frame? |
| 07:46.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ChatFrameN, where in is some number 1-7. At least i'm 95% sure that it is |
| 07:47.52 | abyx | can you show me a /script example? i can't seem to print() to work |
| 07:48.16 | abyx | like /script ChatFrame1:Print("test") |
| 07:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | use AddMessage |
| 07:48.53 | abyx | ahh |
| 07:49.10 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.23 | abyx | for combat log not chat log |
| 07:49.43 | Orionshock | combat log =/= chatframe |
| 07:49.46 | Orionshock | btw |
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| 07:49.54 | abyx | o_O |
| 07:49.58 | abyx | so you can't add a message to it? |
| 07:50.01 | Orionshock | no |
| 07:50.07 | abyx | wait a minute... i just did i think |
| 07:50.11 | NightHawkTheSane | erm |
| 07:50.13 | Orionshock | the combat log is shown in chat frame 2 by default |
| 07:50.18 | fridg | combat log is chat frame 2 |
| 07:50.26 | fridg | yeah by default |
| 07:50.43 | Orionshock | the CL is just a collection of events outputed to file, you cannot add messages to it that are not determined by blizzard |
| 07:50.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it depends on what you mean |
| 07:50.57 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't insert into the combat log itself, but you can add messages to the frame it's outputting to |
| 07:51.36 | abyx | well thats all i need =) |
| 07:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | hot |
| 07:55.31 | Fisker- | awsum |
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| 08:08.53 | NightHawkTheSane | "Fools to the left of me, feeders to the right. I need to find a real job." |
| 08:10.03 | Sole | good evening everyone |
| 08:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you're half right |
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| 08:17.32 | Sole | is this irc channel dead now? |
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| 08:17.51 | Sole | apparently so =[ |
| 08:18.03 | ramoz | everyone died last night |
| 08:18.04 | ramoz | sox |
| 08:18.12 | Sole | how |
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| 08:19.54 | thul | DEAD |
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| 08:20.56 | thul | bah, realms are down ofc. |
| 08:21.27 | Sole | srsly? |
| 08:21.31 | Sole | isnt it too early? |
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| 08:27.23 | ramoz | srsly |
| 08:27.37 | ramoz | european servers are still down |
| 08:28.51 | Adirelle | blizzard announced they will till 11:00 |
| 08:36.06 | thul | yup |
| 08:36.09 | thul | 1 hour 30 minutes. |
| 08:36.12 | thul | before i can lvl my toon. |
| 08:36.14 | thul | too bad. |
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| 08:38.53 | thul | I get to read more about bankruptcy though |
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| 08:48.55 | Sole_ | as I understand it, the new combat log functionality removes the need for localizing parsing, right? |
| 08:49.33 | Xinhuan | not exactly |
| 08:50.27 | thul | hmm |
| 08:50.33 | thul | do i have to remove simple combat log now? :-P |
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| 08:53.19 | Adirelle | Xinhuan, what you mean ? beside the spell names, there shouldn't be much parsing left, should it ? |
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| 08:53.51 | Xinhuan | you're given the unit name directly |
| 08:54.09 | Xinhuan | but you'll still have to reverse lookup a babble table to see if it matches a boss |
| 08:54.24 | vhaarr | bad example |
| 08:54.33 | vhaarr | UnitClassification takes care of that particular one |
| 08:54.39 | Xinhuan | well is that whhat you meant by "localizing parsing"? |
| 08:54.51 | Xinhuan | or do you mean something else entirely? |
| 08:54.51 | Sole__ | no |
| 08:55.13 | Sole__ | well I just want to know if when parsing the new log I will have to take into account the different locales |
| 08:55.19 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 08:55.22 | Xinhuan | no |
| 08:55.25 | Sole | yeah figured |
| 08:55.32 | Sole | since its not string based anymore |
| 08:56.02 | Sole | I've been out of it so I dont the nitty gritty of whats up anymore |
| 08:56.17 | vhaarr | I don't think anyone quite knows how it will work yet. |
| 08:56.31 | Sole | slouken does :P |
| 08:56.37 | vhaarr | orly |
| 08:56.39 | Xinhuan | you're given a 16 bit number to parse out flags, and a bunch of other args directly, they will probably right code to show the combat log specific to locales |
| 08:56.45 | Xinhuan | write* |
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| 08:57.01 | Xinhuan | thats what i'm guessing at least |
| 08:57.14 | Sole | speakin of orly |
| 08:57.23 | Sole | I saw a number plate today and it was "Orly" |
| 08:57.31 | Sole | the nerd inside me giggled |
| 09:01.07 | Adirelle | actually Orly is also the name of a town near Paris, which is well-known for its international airport |
| 09:01.13 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I think a lot of the abusive potential of being able to get NPC coordinates is gone now that so much of the API is locked down. |
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| 09:02.09 | Xinhuan | possibly, but i think it won't be readded |
| 09:02.11 | Lukian | I agree with Kemayo |
| 09:02.24 | Kemayo | Worth asking, though. |
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| 09:11.54 | CIA-8 | 03camulos * r56603 10AutoFIR/ (18 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:11.54 | CIA-8 | AutoFIR: initial commit |
| 09:11.54 | CIA-8 | - AutoFIR is an addon for auto accepts invites, summons, follow requests and more |
| 09:12.59 | greppy | with all the gold sellers spaming group invites, why would you want that mod? lol |
| 09:14.01 | vhaarr | Hahaha, "It's people and occasions like these that I wish raids and group instances came with a spectator mode.", in reply to some guy thinking the constructs in Mechanar are too overpowered. |
| 09:14.25 | vhaarr | (which they aren't, obviously) |
| 09:15.16 | vhaarr | The guy whining is a paladin tank in green/blues using +str gems and cloth leggings, in a guild called "End Game". |
| 09:15.19 | vhaarr | Jesus christ l2p. |
| 09:16.21 | Aenslaed | spectator mode is fine |
| 09:16.29 | vhaarr | that would rock |
| 09:16.52 | Aenslaed | god, one of the best things they can do right now is add spectator mode to raid instances and arena |
| 09:17.08 | Diao | lol spectator mode |
| 09:17.39 | Aenslaed | it pleases casuals to be able to vicariously experience content they would never see otherwise |
| 09:17.59 | Aenslaed | and it wouldn't bother the raid group doing it and they dont have to show up week after week |
| 09:19.37 | CIA-8 | 03camulos * r56604 10AutoFIR/: |
| 09:19.37 | CIA-8 | AutoFIR: |
| 09:19.37 | CIA-8 | - initial commit |
| 09:19.41 | CIA-8 | 03next96 * r56605 10nQuestLog/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 09:19.41 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 09:19.41 | CIA-8 | - Update locale koKR |
| 09:22.15 | thul | paladin tank with cloth leggings? |
| 09:22.16 | thul | creative |
| 09:23.25 | thul | It's like rogues with cloth leggings with +int gems :-P |
| 09:23.56 | vhaarr | that would make more sense, actually |
| 09:23.56 | vhaarr | if the rogue used it to level weapon skills |
| 09:23.56 | renchap | is it an ace addon that can display party members cooldowns (only this feature, using the comm channel) |
| 09:24.24 | thul | hehe |
| 09:24.39 | thul | my warrior is lvl 23 now, I rock at lvling :-P |
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| 09:26.58 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 09:27.05 | vhaarr | morning babe |
| 09:27.56 | Ellipsis | thar is cake on my mousepad |
| 09:27.59 | thul | what about me? :-( |
| 09:28.08 | Ellipsis | who can I blame for this |
| 09:28.20 | Lukian | The cake is a lie! |
| 09:28.20 | Fisker- | code this, code that |
| 09:28.34 | Ellipsis | no, it's actually macaroon fudge torte |
| 09:28.44 | Ellipsis | therefore not a lie |
| 09:29.29 | thul | hmm, I think I'll eat bacon + tomato beens + scrambled eggs for breakfast today |
| 09:30.08 | Diao | sounds.. healthy.. |
| 09:30.12 | thul | it is |
| 09:30.26 | thul | far more healthy then the standard quick carb laden crap that most people eat :-) |
| 09:30.42 | thul | people have to realize that proteins and fats are what we are built to eat, not sugar and other quick carbs :-P |
| 09:30.50 | vhaarr | it's called the "I just eat a fucking breakfast, go to hell all you skinny retards" breakfast |
| 09:30.53 | thul | meat, fish, nuts, roots, vegetables ftw :-D |
| 09:31.01 | thul | hehe |
| 09:31.03 | thul | yeah. |
| 09:31.15 | [Ammo] | roastbeef for breakfast |
| 09:31.16 | [Ammo] | yummy |
| 09:31.18 | thul | I'm a powerlifter, i get to eat what i want :-P |
| 09:32.42 | thul | hmm, 7/10 people found my review on amazon usefull :-D |
| 09:32.45 | thul | I'll write moar. |
| 09:32.47 | Fisker- | you're not getting roastbeef for breakfast [Ammo] |
| 09:32.50 | thul | it boosts my self esteem :-P |
| 09:33.30 | Orionshock | ... doing pulls to maiden, our druid moves over to the "green" beam, and thinks to himself, wtf am i doing trying to stop the drain life beam on a warlock... |
| 09:34.13 | Fisker- | code this, code that |
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| 09:35.09 | Ellipsis | mm, sushi for breakfast |
| 09:35.15 | Ellipsis | I think I win ^-^ |
| 09:35.22 | Diao | sounds exotic |
| 09:35.26 | vhaarr | I just got a Deep Purple kick, Child of Time is so rocking. |
| 09:35.43 | thul | i can't eat much sushi, just too much flavor for me. therefore, bacon :-P |
| 09:36.05 | Ellipsis | but bacon is all salty and stuff o.o |
| 09:36.12 | vhaarr | Sushi is what you eat when you're trying to be cool. |
| 09:36.18 | thul | vhaarr: heard kino? |
| 09:36.21 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: That's what she said last night |
| 09:36.28 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:36.37 | Ellipsis | take that back vhaarr, I like sushi |
| 09:36.38 | Kalroth | Oh wait, it wasn't bacon |
| 09:36.49 | Kalroth | Sushi is stupid, why eat raw stuff? |
| 09:36.56 | vhaarr | thul: nope |
| 09:37.02 | Kalroth | Not to mention it tastes of .. fish. |
| 09:37.06 | thul | http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/AO88HAZ6HD6GC/ref=cm_aya_bb_rev <- i rock. |
| 09:37.10 | thul | vhaarr: check it out. |
| 09:37.10 | Ellipsis | it tastes good |
| 09:37.12 | Kalroth | Like fishy fish. |
| 09:37.28 | vhaarr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(band) |
| 09:37.31 | Ellipsis | good sushi doesn't taste that fishy |
| 09:37.33 | Tekkub | ah I love when you hearth sitting down and your toon puts his hands back in his lap |
| 09:37.40 | Tekkub | it's like a party in your pants |
| 09:37.40 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 09:37.45 | thul | all the japanophiles in oslo dress in gothic lolita outfits, think they are unique and that noone understands them and eats sushi :-P I eat sushi beacause it actually tastes good :-) |
| 09:37.46 | Kalroth | Pervert! |
| 09:37.56 | thul | vhaarr: yeah |
| 09:37.56 | Kalroth | thul: Liar! |
| 09:38.09 | thul | w00t? :-P |
| 09:38.14 | Kalroth | Noone eats sushi because it tastes good |
| 09:38.24 | thul | well, the salmon and tuna ones do. |
| 09:38.26 | thul | in small amounts. |
| 09:38.26 | Kalroth | Even the japanese only eat sushi because they can't afford to cook it. |
| 09:38.28 | thul | with good sauce :-D |
| 09:38.34 | thul | almost as heavy smoked sheep meat. |
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| 09:38.36 | thul | good in small amounts :-P |
| 09:38.49 | Kalroth | I guess that the fact that I hate fish doesn't help :P |
| 09:40.03 | thul | not really :-D |
| 09:40.05 | Ellipsis | pfft, I don't care what you guys think |
| 09:40.09 | Ellipsis | I like sushi and you can't stop me :D |
| 09:40.33 | thul | do you wear gothic lolita clothes? :-P |
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| 09:40.43 | Ellipsis | ...no |
| 09:40.46 | Ellipsis | do you want me to? |
| 09:40.50 | vhaarr | yes |
| 09:41.05 | Ellipsis | that can be arranged |
| 09:41.08 | Civrock | I like where this is going. |
| 09:41.42 | Ellipsis | I didn't say I'd do it for free |
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| 09:42.03 | thul | haha |
| 09:42.09 | thul | well, I study law, i can afford it.. in a few years. |
| 09:42.17 | Antiarc | Windfury has a hidden CD, right? |
| 09:42.21 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 09:42.22 | Kalroth | Antiarc: No |
| 09:42.24 | thul | doubt that my gf will appreciate it though. |
| 09:42.24 | Kalroth | :p |
| 09:42.31 | thul | Antiarc: yeah, that is why you have wf 4 on your mh and 3 on your oh |
| 09:42.31 | Kalroth | WF totem got no CD |
| 09:42.36 | thul | or 5 on your mh and 4 on your oh |
| 09:42.37 | thul | etc :-P |
| 09:42.37 | Kalroth | WF weapon got a 3 second CD |
| 09:42.40 | Antiarc | I'm using Stalvan's reaper which is 1.6 speed |
| 09:42.45 | Antiarc | Okay, great, thanks |
| 09:42.48 | Antiarc | So I want a big 2h |
| 09:42.54 | thul | you want to slow 1hg |
| 09:42.59 | thul | two slow 1h-ers |
| 09:43.03 | Kalroth | Two slow 1H'ers > * |
| 09:43.08 | Kalroth | Once you got 9% hit |
| 09:43.16 | Antiarc | I'm level 32 right now :P |
| 09:43.20 | Kalroth | Oh :P |
| 09:43.28 | thul | Kalroth: that is why I'm lvling as arms instead of fury right now, no +hit |
| 09:43.34 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 09:43.42 | Antiarc | I found levelling my warrior as fury a lot easier than arms |
| 09:43.42 | Kalroth | thul: Of course, you should always level a warrior as arms |
| 09:43.45 | Antiarc | You just have a ton more rage |
| 09:44.04 | thul | Kalroth: well, most people say "go fury blablah" :-P |
| 09:44.06 | Kalroth | I doubt it, even today with superior fury items |
| 09:44.11 | Cheads | arms before 60, then fury was what I found easiest |
| 09:44.35 | thul | i got a blue from a rare elite anyway, which is 2h |
| 09:44.37 | thul | so i use that :-P |
| 09:44.46 | Kalroth | Maybe once you can put 3 points in the hit talents, combined with some decent +hit gear |
| 09:45.04 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Idavoll <- look at that sword :-P |
| 09:45.24 | Kalroth | Insane! |
| 09:45.40 | thul | :-D |
| 09:45.57 | thul | 300-400 mortal strikes at lvl 22 :-P life is good :-D |
| 09:46.01 | Kalroth | over 800 health too! |
| 09:46.27 | thul | mhm:P |
| 09:46.32 | thul | hehe |
| 09:46.42 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56606 10SimpleBossWhisperer/ (. SimpleBossWhisperer.lua SimpleBossWhisperer.toc): SimpleBossWhisperer: Revision 46882 of BossWhisperer, before Wiebbe made it into a fubar plugin and raped the whole thing. |
| 09:46.46 | thul | rogue in wsg when i was lvl 19.. 1800hp, 500 ap.. |
| 09:46.47 | thul | no fun :-P |
| 09:47.00 | Kalroth | I knew it, you're a dirty twink! |
| 09:47.05 | thul | I'm not |
| 09:47.07 | thul | he was :-( |
| 09:47.09 | thul | and it was no fun |
| 09:47.10 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 09:47.13 | thul | he assraped me. |
| 09:47.25 | thul | i thought "with shield, pretty decent greens with +str and +sta, i can do wsg" |
| 09:47.27 | thul | stupid thought. |
| 09:47.32 | Kalroth | Oh okay, that's fair enough. I still get ganked by rogues at level 70 :P |
| 09:47.48 | thul | my main is a rogue :-D but I'm pve-specced hemo now, so not too much fun in bgs. |
| 09:47.58 | thul | but mutilate is fun in bgs.. insane ambushes gg. |
| 09:48.10 | thul | 3k ambush, cb, mutilate :-P |
| 09:48.11 | Antiarc | I just wish Mutilate didn't fail so hard in the arena |
| 09:48.16 | thul | mhm. |
| 09:48.27 | thul | i use combat hemo/trispec in arena :-P |
| 09:48.30 | Antiarc | Same |
| 09:48.39 | Antiarc | Though I'm human so I dropped a point in wex for prep |
| 09:48.41 | Antiarc | Which helps a ton |
| 09:48.48 | thul | same here |
| 09:48.49 | Tekkub | <Antiarc> I just wish <strike>Mutilate</strike> I didn't fail so hard in the arena |
| 09:49.04 | Antiarc | I just wish Tekkub's mom could keep up with me in bed |
| 09:49.13 | Ellipsis | pics? |
| 09:49.24 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve <- Antiarc looks ok? |
| 09:49.34 | thul | or should i put one of the DD points in wex? |
| 09:49.41 | Antiarc | No, 2/2 DD is huge |
| 09:50.00 | Antiarc | I had a nearly-6k Envenom in Hyjal the other day :D |
| 09:50.02 | Antiarc | It was awesome. |
| 09:50.04 | Antiarc | I went :O |
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| 09:50.39 | Antiarc | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Adrine is what I'm running |
| 09:51.10 | Diao | wait what |
| 09:51.13 | Diao | 300-400 MS at level 22? |
| 09:51.19 | Diao | since when could warriors get MS that early? ;p |
| 09:51.21 | Kalroth | I knew it, you're a hot chick rogue, Antiarc! |
| 09:51.25 | Antiarc | :O |
| 09:51.37 | thul | Diao: i meant hs :-P |
| 09:51.51 | thul | i'm a newb war, mkey? :-P |
| 09:51.56 | Diao | lol |
| 09:52.19 | thul | Antiarc: i got a 6k hemo at curator :-P |
| 09:52.25 | Antiarc | Curator doesn't count! |
| 09:52.30 | thul | hehe |
| 09:52.38 | thul | our mages get like 15k fireballs :-D |
| 09:52.41 | Antiarc | I got a 17k SS on Raz's adds >_> |
| 09:52.49 | thul | haha |
| 09:53.00 | thul | i was thinking about going old combat swords instead of hemo |
| 09:53.08 | thul | but i find that spec there better as a combo/everything-spec |
| 09:53.12 | Antiarc | I'll be going back to it if the hemo nerf goes through |
| 09:53.16 | thul | i hate evisc though, hope that gets revamped. |
| 09:53.21 | jwwpua | Antiarc: Is there a known issue with Sanity2 not showing items you currently have in your bag or in the bank? |
| 09:53.23 | thul | what hemo nerf? :-( |
| 09:53.32 | Antiarc | They're reducing it to 110% weapon damage in 2.3.2 |
| 09:53.39 | Antiarc | jwwpua: Probably. I haven't had time to maintain it :/ |
| 09:54.04 | thul | *buuu* |
| 09:54.07 | thul | that sucks so much |
| 09:54.21 | jwwpua | Antiarc: oh ok. well for what it's worth, it's a great addon and probably one of the most useful ones I've got (just seems to have stopped working as well since I came back to wow) |
| 09:54.24 | Antiarc | It basically just means that all the PVPers will stay AR/hemo and the raiders go back to combat swords |
| 09:54.30 | jwwpua | hope you continue it at some point tho! |
| 09:54.37 | Antiarc | heh, me too. thanks :) |
| 09:54.57 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56607 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: BossWhisperer: Tiny cleanups. Wiebbe, your code sucks. |
| 09:55.17 | Ellipsis | so much love |
| 09:55.27 | [Ammo] | HATRED |
| 09:55.33 | jwwpua | is there an addon that can sort of dim your screen or the borders when you're silenced? maybe with a timer too? |
| 09:55.54 | jwwpua | I'm thinking of how Omen makes the border flash red when you take aggro |
| 09:55.56 | thul | Antiarc:( |
| 09:55.58 | thul | that shucks |
| 09:55.59 | thul | :-( |
| 09:56.04 | thul | SHUCKS! |
| 09:56.09 | thul | i don't want to have to respec all the fucking time |
| 09:56.16 | thul | I'll go combat mutilate again fosho. |
| 09:56.25 | Antiarc | I need a good excuse to go daggers |
| 09:56.44 | Antiarc | I have the ZA dagger, Vashj's dagger, Solarian's dagger, and uh |
| 09:56.46 | Antiarc | Something else that I forget |
| 09:57.05 | Antiarc | Daggers really just needs to fail less. |
| 09:57.22 | Fisker- | i thought i blocked your irc rights [Ammo] :( |
| 09:57.26 | thul | yeah |
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| 09:57.54 | thul | I got the two kara daggers:P good combo for mutilate for a lowbie casual like me |
| 09:58.55 | Diao | which 2? |
| 09:59.04 | Antiarc | Emerald/Malchazeen, I suspect |
| 09:59.07 | Diao | oh |
| 09:59.11 | Diao | cause there's 3 daggers in kara :p |
| 09:59.24 | Antiarc | The Romulo one isn't really a rogue dagger |
| 09:59.26 | Antiarc | 1.6 speed, IIRC |
| 09:59.29 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboersizVohfV0bV <- Antiarc |
| 09:59.29 | Diao | ah |
| 09:59.32 | Diao | never really looked at it |
| 09:59.33 | thul | yeah |
| 09:59.40 | thul | the romulo one is just middle ground |
| 09:59.46 | thul | so, i have emerald in oh and malcha in mh |
| 10:00.04 | thul | dw spec or opportunity though.. hard choice :-P |
| 10:00.14 | FinalX | my priest has emerald >.> |
| 10:00.17 | FinalX | and fool's bane |
| 10:00.17 | Antiarc | DW's more damage |
| 10:00.17 | FinalX | :P |
| 10:00.22 | Antiarc | Opportunity is better burst |
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| 10:00.59 | thul | exactly |
| 10:01.12 | thul | so.. for pvp fun combined with pve = opportunity... |
| 10:01.14 | thul | dw = pve |
| 10:01.15 | thul | bah |
| 10:01.24 | thul | can't i get _one_ spec that is ok for both pve and pvp? :-P |
| 10:04.52 | thul | reading EJ on it now Antiarc :-( |
| 10:04.54 | thul | sadcat thul |
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| 10:08.36 | thul | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/CoconutsX22/ScreenShot_120407_032030.jpg <- ui for you Ellipsis |
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| 10:11.10 | starlon | >.> |
| 10:13.08 | Ellipsis | eh, not girly enough |
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| 10:13.51 | starlon | I don't think it gets much girlier than hello kitty |
| 10:14.17 | vhaarr | needs more pictures of Justin Timberlake textures |
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| 10:20.09 | Leiti | good morning everybody :) |
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| 10:20.32 | Antiarc | Evening |
| 10:20.47 | Leiti | oops in germany it´s 11.20 ^^ |
| 10:20.52 | Antiarc | ~uat |
| 10:20.53 | purl | somebody said uat was Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight, especially so-called "Universal" Fisker Time, which is just a sorry excuse for supposed "time" and will instead just be laughed at. |
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| 10:21.22 | Leiti | someone using cht ? |
| 10:22.10 | Chompers | "Universal" Fisker Time |
| 10:22.14 | Ellipsis | ~uft |
| 10:22.15 | purl | Universal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time. |
| 10:22.22 | Leiti | xD |
| 10:22.25 | Ellipsis | I like Antiarc's better |
| 10:22.30 | Chompers | terrifying |
| 10:22.30 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56608 10GlowFoSho/ (GlowFoSho.lua enchants.lua): |
| 10:22.30 | CIA-8 | GlowFoSho: |
| 10:22.30 | CIA-8 | - Added Clear option to remove any enchant on the weapon |
| 10:22.30 | CIA-8 | - Also Lesser Intellect (2H) now has a proper enchantID |
| 10:22.33 | Ellipsis | at least I have a tiny little chance of not being shot |
| 10:23.07 | Lukian | awesome, a clear option :D |
| 10:26.27 | Leiti | Is the Author "Durash" usually in here ? |
| 10:26.28 | thul | dunno if muti was any fun |
| 10:26.52 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56609 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Remove unused function. |
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| 10:35.25 | bigzero | anyone else notice that DewDrop does not really set the parent for the dropdown? so when the parent window is hidden, the dropdown still stays... |
| 10:36.16 | bigzero | not sure if that was left this way intentionally or not |
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| 10:42.51 | bigzero | well, if it's not intentional, then adding frame:SetParent( (type(parent) == "table" and parent) or UIParent) right under line 2749 (seemed like an appropriate place) should fix it |
| 10:43.12 | bigzero | didn't want to do it myself without getting confirmation, so up to you guys |
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| 11:01.32 | Diao | hmm |
| 11:01.41 | Diao | anyone have tips on how to beat mage/lock with warr/pally? |
| 11:01.50 | Diao | they lock down the pally and i can't burst one of them fast enough |
| 11:02.18 | Xinhuan | lose |
| 11:02.29 | Xinhuan | mage/lock > warr/pally |
| 11:02.35 | Xinhuan | usually about 80% |
| 11:02.39 | Diao | :( |
| 11:02.49 | Diao | best i could do was try to burst the lock down fast |
| 11:02.52 | Diao | since he went UA |
| 11:03.02 | Xinhuan | you can win though, if 1. warr uses nothing but spell reflect 2. the pally uses DS in the first 10 secs |
| 11:03.12 | Diao | well |
| 11:03.17 | Diao | 2nd game |
| 11:03.22 | Diao | i tried staying in battle for spellreflect |
| 11:03.27 | Diao | killing the WE as soon as he spawned it |
| 11:03.35 | Diao | but once pally used up his bubble |
| 11:03.36 | Xinhuan | but its "rare" to win even then |
| 11:03.38 | Diao | he got fearlocked |
| 11:03.41 | Diao | and i couldn't do anything |
| 11:03.55 | Diao | too much incoming damage even with reflect :( |
| 11:03.59 | Xinhuan | as a mage |
| 11:04.07 | Xinhuan | mage / lock >>> war / pally |
| 11:04.15 | Diao | yea |
| 11:04.25 | Diao | only teams we have lost consistently to are mage/lock and spriest/lock |
| 11:04.29 | Xinhuan | its like warr/druid > almost all combos |
| 11:04.48 | Diao | we haven't had much trouble with warr/druid |
| 11:04.52 | Diao | even against gladiator ranked ones |
| 11:05.06 | Xinhuan | hence "almost" |
| 11:05.09 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:05.33 | Diao | it's just lame to lose almost 50 points to the same mage/lock team over a period of an hour :( |
| 11:08.03 | Xinhuan | i would just sto for the night |
| 11:08.06 | Xinhuan | stop |
| 11:09.27 | Diao | yea |
| 11:09.30 | Diao | we stopped |
| 11:09.40 | Diao | raised our rating by 150 |
| 11:09.44 | Diao | then lost 50 to that team :( |
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| 11:21.29 | dan-g | hey... quick and simple question... trying to use Buffalo for my buff bar, but I can't get rid of the Blizzard frame. Downloaded BasicBuffHide but that isnt getting rid of it either. Any ideas? |
| 11:23.17 | Diao | buffalo should hide it automatically |
| 11:23.24 | Diao | it might be bugged |
| 11:24.38 | SunTsu | Or some other addon intervenes with the hiding |
| 11:24.40 | dan-g | Any way to (somewhat simply) fix it? |
| 11:25.14 | dan-g | I've disabled all my non-Ace addons, and I only have a handful of Ace ones loading, none of which (at least obviously) relate to buffs or the buff frame |
| 11:25.49 | Diao | hvae you tried buffalo2 instead? |
| 11:26.06 | dan-g | actually that is what I am using, not buffalo... sorry |
| 11:26.30 | Diao | oh |
| 11:26.40 | Diao | strange |
| 11:26.42 | Diao | delete savedvars? |
| 11:27.12 | dan-g | actually, I just disabled all the mods except buffalo2 and it got hidden. Gotta be something I'm missing... I'll go through one by one |
| 11:27.31 | Diao | list the ace mods that you had loading |
| 11:27.34 | dan-g | Should have done that first, anyway |
| 11:27.38 | Diao | i can probably tell :P |
| 11:27.41 | Diao | i've tried most of them |
| 11:28.21 | dan-g | Prat, Quartz, AtlasLoot, CowTip, FuBar, Parrot, Grid, eePanels and simpleMinimap |
| 11:29.04 | Diao | hmm |
| 11:29.14 | dan-g | also have Bongos, but it wasnt that, tried it first |
| 11:29.34 | Diao | out of those |
| 11:29.40 | Diao | i can guess it was either eepanels or smm |
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| 11:30.22 | dan-g | well I'm going to bed, I'll mess with it later, that was the last quirk I needed to work out, but thanks for y'alls feedback... gnight |
| 11:30.24 | Diao | cause i know for a fact that none of the others would do it :p |
| 11:30.26 | Diao | np |
| 11:30.29 | dan-g | fair enough |
| 11:30.34 | dan-g | later |
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| 11:33.10 | CIA-8 | 03Octane666 * r56611 10DrWhoLib/DrWho-1.0/DrWho-1.0.lua: |
| 11:33.10 | CIA-8 | DrWhoLib: |
| 11:33.10 | CIA-8 | - No longer attempts to who lookup names containing numbers. |
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| 11:41.24 | evl | The menu that pops up when you right-click a playername in chat or on a frame, where can I find it? I'd like to add follow and trade to the list |
| 11:43.48 | SunTsu | evl: prat altnames extends it, so you might want to look into that code, if nobody can answer it right now |
| 11:43.57 | evl | ok |
| 11:45.14 | evl | SunTsu: it's UnitPopup, thanks :) |
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| 11:48.59 | SunTsu | evl: Your welcome. Did nothing, just remembered where I saw something like that |
| 11:55.24 | kandarz | how might I go about getting the mana cost of a spell from the spell book without any libraries? |
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| 11:56.18 | Ellipsis | look at how the libraries do it? :P |
| 11:58.43 | kandarz | well, I'm trying to add a druid mana bar to the new ag_uf and I'm starting with the pitbull module as a guide, but it uses GratuityLib which isn't yet LibStub'd to set the tooltip then mat the line |
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| 12:02.01 | Xinhuan | the mana cost isn't displayed in the tooltip if you have certain buffs active that gives next spellcast free ;p |
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| 12:02.49 | kandarz | the code is "line = tonumber(line:match("(%d+)"))" and returns the line or 0 |
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| 12:04.38 | kandarz | silly me, version 3 of Gratuity is libstub |
| 12:10.26 | Orionshock | lol... pull after shades room, and we pally fear one of the mobs..... it goes into the other room and .. well he brings back friends.. :( |
| 12:10.38 | Orionshock | fear it's totaly FTW, xpt when that happens .... |
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| 12:15.13 | kandarz | can anyone explain to me the new acetimer-3.0, I'm trying to cancel timers and I can't figure out what I need to supply as a self |
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| 12:19.07 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56612 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:19.07 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:19.07 | CIA-8 | - Missing item added |
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| 12:24.20 | Orionshock | kandarz: put in your addon main object, ie the one you embeded the timmer into |
| 12:25.41 | SunTsu | Orionshock: Just have a frost mage slow down the mobs while fearing and hitting them at the same time ;) |
| 12:25.43 | kandarz | It's a module of ag_unitframes, so I'm using local timer = LibStub("AceTimer-3.0"), do I put in the ag_unitframes main object, or the module object? |
| 12:27.09 | [Ammo] | kandarz: if it's a module of agUF you could do: aUF:NewModule("GnomePorn", "AceTimer-3.0") |
| 12:27.31 | [Ammo] | and then use your gnomeporn module as self |
| 12:27.49 | [Ammo] | when cancelling a timer you have to provide the handler returned frmo starting the timer |
| 12:28.19 | kandarz | I'm trying to CancelAllTimers() |
| 12:28.57 | [Ammo] | well how were they registered |
| 12:29.20 | kandarz | aUF_druidmana:ScheduleTimer() |
| 12:29.45 | vhaarr | how can that work if your AceTimer-3.0 object is not embedded in aUF_druidmana? |
| 12:29.45 | [Ammo] | then do aUF_druidmana:CancelAllTimers() |
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| 12:30.06 | [Ammo] | if you have the AceTimer-3.0 embeded in your module the cancelall is automatically done when you disable the module as well |
| 12:32.02 | Diao | wow |
| 12:32.05 | Diao | that was gay |
| 12:32.15 | Diao | score was tied 1990-1990 in ab, we're 2 sec from capping farm |
| 12:32.21 | Diao | then alliance gets their resources first and wins the game : |
| 12:32.23 | Diao | :(* |
| 12:33.43 | kandarz | thanks [Ammo], that worked, but I have another problem, it seams that the pitbull module query's rocktimer for a timer, but acetimer-3 doesn't have HasTimer(), is there another way to get that seeing as I'm canceling a lot of timers mid module |
| 12:37.30 | Wobin | Pitbull, isn't this an aguf module? |
| 12:38.25 | kandarz | aguf doesn't have a druid mana bar, and currently aguf is 'feature complete' so I'm adding it to aguf but I started with pitbull's module |
| 12:39.05 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:40.22 | Wobin | Well first, find out why Pitbull needs the check |
| 12:40.31 | Wobin | and see if it applies to the aguf instance |
| 12:40.41 | kandarz | needs to check so it can deduct from the mana pool |
| 12:40.59 | thul | sucks to be you Diao :-P |
| 12:41.10 | [Ammo] | kandarz: just keep your own local 'I have a timer running' |
| 12:41.28 | [Ammo] | kandarz: CancelTimer() in AceTimer-3.0 fails silently if you pass it a handle that is not running |
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| 13:21.43 | RaydenUni | i want to work on my druid... |
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| 13:23.24 | RaydenUni | stupid class |
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| 13:25.01 | Orionshock | :D |
| 13:25.01 | Orionshock | i know most of you that are here are in BT :P |
| 13:25.26 | Orionshock | but my guild just cleared KZ in 1 night, w/o any wipes on bosses :D |
| 13:25.40 | Orionshock | & i am happy |
| 13:26.18 | Xinhuan | how many hours :D |
| 13:26.20 | Diao | grats |
| 13:26.26 | Xinhuan | did it take |
| 13:26.43 | Orionshock | we started 1:30 local, and ended just before 6, so 5hr clear |
| 13:27.12 | Diao | ~4.5, nice ;p |
| 13:27.37 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 13:27.53 | Xinhuan | we have an alt-team in kara right now |
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| 13:27.58 | Orionshock | our only rogue in the group got his t4 gloves & hat, Malacazzeen, Ring of 1k marks, and the belt from chess |
| 13:27.59 | Xinhuan | they started 5 hours ago |
| 13:28.04 | kandarz | I afk'd on Mother Shahraz, ot ftw |
| 13:28.05 | Xinhuan | they just wiped on prince ;p |
| 13:29.05 | Orionshock | prince is easy once you know where to tank him |
| 13:29.06 | Xinhuan | meanwhile we killed first 5 bosses in bt/hyjal, and DEed 6 of those epics zzzzzz |
| 13:29.56 | Orionshock | have everyone stand in the doorway and tank him up on the wall in front of the door |
| 13:30.36 | Xinhuan | does that still work? |
| 13:31.51 | Orionshock | works for us, every time |
| 13:31.59 | Orionshock | 1shot FTW |
| 13:32.21 | Diao | until you bring a group with 4 melee dps and he drops an infernal RIGHT on the tank... twice |
| 13:32.26 | Diao | then you wipe and restart it :( |
| 13:32.55 | Orionshock | nope, just have the melee move to the doorway and range him for the 2mins the inerfernal is up |
| 13:33.06 | Diao | lol |
| 13:33.15 | Orionshock | infact that happened to us 3 times tonight, |
| 13:33.29 | Orionshock | only 1 person died, but that was from enfeeble iirc |
| 13:33.33 | Diao | o_O |
| 13:33.41 | Diao | it's 3 min iirc |
| 13:33.48 | Orionshock | only felt like 2 |
| 13:33.50 | Diao | and in 3 min our casters can get him halfway through phase 2 |
| 13:33.57 | Diao | and not having the melee in there is painful |
| 13:33.59 | Orionshock | yep, same here... |
| 13:34.03 | Diao | esp when you only use 2 healers.. |
| 13:34.05 | Diao | :( |
| 13:34.16 | Diao | healers only have so much mana ;p |
| 13:34.17 | Orionshock | goes alot slower w/o melee, but it works like a charm |
| 13:34.23 | Orionshock | 2 pallys & a druid |
| 13:34.35 | Diao | yea we only use 2 healers cause we max out our dps |
| 13:34.39 | Stanzilla | 3 healers in kara? O.o |
| 13:34.48 | Orionshock | ya we run 3 healers |
| 13:35.17 | Stanzilla | hm..2 and 1 spriests is enough :) |
| 13:35.39 | Orionshock | prot warrior, feral druid, rogue, enh shammy, 2 locks, hunter, 2 heal pallys and a resto druid |
| 13:35.54 | Orionshock | and have no problems with any of the bosses |
| 13:36.20 | Diao | we rotate our groups all the time but it's generally 1 mt, 1 ot(dps spec warr or druid), 2 healers, 1 spri, 1 lock, 4 random dps |
| 13:36.25 | Xinhuan | i came 3rd on dps with my uber mouse bindings |
| 13:36.47 | Orionshock | and... we have 3 KZ teams atm... -.-0 |
| 13:37.24 | Xinhuan | just started ZA run :) |
| 13:37.28 | Xinhuan | hope formula drops |
| 13:37.36 | Orionshock | hehe... we did illhoof one night with only one lock |
| 13:37.38 | kandarz | I'm lucky if I can get 9 other ppl to do kara with my alt |
| 13:37.49 | Orionshock | we had our 2 hunters and 2 pallys help with the AoE DPS |
| 13:37.56 | kandarz | illhoof = mage tank |
| 13:38.15 | Orionshock | >.- how do u mage tank illhoof? |
| 13:38.20 | kandarz | do it without a lock next time, it's fun |
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| 13:38.49 | kandarz | well not illhoof, but all his imps, most of the time I don't go with a lock |
| 13:38.57 | Orionshock | well... meh.. only down side to the enitre run was i left my badges on moroes, |
| 13:39.04 | Xinhuan | pally tanks all! |
| 13:39.09 | Xinhuan | boss, imps and all |
| 13:39.16 | Orionshock | but i put in a ticket and i feel that i'll get it in the mail when i log in tommarow |
| 13:39.19 | Diao | o_O |
| 13:39.25 | Diao | how do you do it with more than 1 lock |
| 13:39.35 | Mergitur | Is Legoblocks available for download, somewhere? |
| 13:39.42 | kandarz | good luck with that ticket |
| 13:40.05 | Orionshock | kandarz: i do customer service for a job, so i know the magic words to say to get what i want :P |
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| 13:40.46 | kandarz | what would I have to say to get a GM to deathtouch illidan after we've tapped him? |
| 13:40.51 | Diao | lol |
| 13:41.13 | Mergitur | "mom, can you please death touch illidan?"... think that's the only one that would work ;) |
| 13:41.35 | Orionshock | kandarz: ... well you'd first have to give em a blow job, and then hand over ~30k$ |
| 13:41.38 | kenlyric | your mom would tell you not to cheat. |
| 13:41.56 | kandarz | that's quiet the payment |
| 13:41.57 | kenlyric | you'll never learn anything if i do all your boss killing for you. |
| 13:42.04 | Mergitur | hehe |
| 13:42.21 | Orionshock | well.. 30k$ is about 1yr income at minimum wage... |
| 13:43.38 | Orionshock | but the real bitch about getting a GM to deathtouch illidan after being tap'ed is getting to a Developer over the client, and well... that's never going to happen |
| 13:44.11 | Orionshock | because the "Specialists" and desk end GM's can't even appear in game as a <GM> blue usualy |
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| 13:45.20 | RaydenUni | is there a mod out there that will let me add comments to my friends? |
| 13:45.33 | nevcairiel | AuldLangSyne does that |
| 13:45.34 | nevcairiel | and more |
| 13:45.42 | Orionshock | ALS would |
| 13:45.47 | nevcairiel | i bet it typod in the name somewhere |
| 13:46.00 | Orionshock | i'd use NoteIt IMO |
| 13:46.08 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 13:46.23 | RaydenUni | i downloaded some note mod once and couldn't figure out how to find it in game :P |
| 13:46.24 | Orionshock | it lets you put a tag in the tooltip on anything and everything that has a tooltip |
| 13:47.26 | Orionshock | like players and NPC's, you just target it and "/ni" put somehting in and save |
| 13:47.43 | nevcairiel | eww keyboard usage |
| 13:47.50 | Orionshock | there is a key binding |
| 13:48.07 | RaydenUni | ew keyboard usage? |
| 13:48.12 | Orionshock | like for me- i use it to remember what kind of adds moroes has |
| 13:48.13 | RaydenUni | command prompts are awesome |
| 13:48.19 | RaydenUni | i haven't used the GUI to quit wow in ages |
| 13:48.29 | Orionshock | nevcairiel is an anti-CLI kinda person :P |
| 13:48.54 | RaydenUni | is there a text command to add a friend? |
| 13:49.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.06 | RaydenUni | it's not the same as battle.net |
| 13:49.09 | Orionshock | while targeting |
| 13:49.21 | Diao | from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168515836&sid=1&pageNo=3, "I am saying that Stances, as they are right now, limit Warriors for absolutely no advantage in return. It's buck for no bang. I would gladly accept the restriction if it was counterbalanced by some gain, as the much more versatile Druids come by." |
| 13:49.23 | Orionshock | ... um ... never been on battlenet |
| 13:49.28 | Diao | you just do /friend name |
| 13:49.29 | Diao | to add them |
| 13:49.38 | markt__ | eww anti-CLI-kinda-person |
| 13:49.49 | RaydenUni | k |
| 13:49.54 | RaydenUni | battle.net if /f add |
| 13:49.57 | RaydenUni | i think |
| 13:50.02 | Orionshock | Diao: ... wth? wtf? |
| 13:50.19 | Diao | i just liked the part where he said it's buck for no bang |
| 13:50.20 | Orionshock | obviously that idiot has never play'ed a druid before |
| 13:50.22 | Diao | it amused me |
| 13:50.54 | RaydenUni | yeah cause a kitty druid can swap to bear druid and tank 100% effectively... |
| 13:51.10 | Diao | what he was saying is that druids by shifting into forms gain an entirely new set of abilities and advantages (bar gear) |
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| 13:51.28 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: lol |
| 13:51.38 | RaydenUni | what do you get from stances? |
| 13:51.39 | nevcairiel | a off warrior can equip a shield and try tanking too :P |
| 13:51.47 | RaydenUni | just different damage mitigation and threat generation? |
| 13:51.53 | nevcairiel | nah diff spells too |
| 13:51.59 | Diao | "access" to different spells |
| 13:52.03 | RaydenUni | so... how is that different than a druid? |
| 13:52.12 | Orionshock | um.... |
| 13:52.14 | Diao | well |
| 13:52.20 | Diao | all warrior stances come with an inherent penalty |
| 13:52.23 | Diao | no druid stances do :P |
| 13:52.27 | Diao | or forms rather |
| 13:52.30 | Orionshock | druid melee white damage is only ~200 |
| 13:52.31 | nevcairiel | battle stances has no penality |
| 13:52.39 | RaydenUni | kitty druids have much less armor than dps warriors don't they? |
| 13:52.41 | Orionshock | 300~ if the AP is high enough |
| 13:52.43 | Diao | warriors can't pvp in battle :( |
| 13:52.49 | Diao | nor can they tank in battle |
| 13:52.58 | RaydenUni | but his argument is invalid |
| 13:53.01 | RaydenUni | druid != warrior |
| 13:53.07 | Diao | though when tanking we stay in def 99% of the time anyway |
| 13:53.08 | Orionshock | warriors can swap stances, swap out wepons and deal a shit load more dmg... |
| 13:53.10 | nevcairiel | its a typical whiner |
| 13:53.10 | RaydenUni | therefore any comparison is faulty |
| 13:53.26 | RaydenUni | he probably wants warriors to be able to heal and rez as well |
| 13:53.27 | Diao | uh RaydenUni if you're talking about armor |
| 13:53.33 | Diao | dps warriors tend to wear some leather to maximize dps |
| 13:53.38 | nevcairiel | one advantage druids have, they can do dps and tank with the exact same spec |
| 13:53.41 | Diao | because if you're gonna get hit by a boss, you're dead anyway |
| 13:53.43 | Adirelle | anyone have the hostname of an eu wow server (or maybe auth server) ? |
| 13:54.06 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: and even that is a matter of debate, it's the difference of a bout 7 talent points |
| 13:54.27 | Orionshock | Adirelle: check the realmlist.wtf in your wow folder, it's just a text file |
| 13:54.34 | RaydenUni | <nevcairiel> one advantage druids have, they can do dps and tank with the exact same spec <-- perhaps offset by needing 4 armor sets for all their specs? compared to the 2 or maybe 3 of other classes? |
| 13:54.40 | Adirelle | Orionshock, I'm at work ^^ |
| 13:54.51 | Adirelle | and I don't have wow installed on my office computer (yet) |
| 13:55.04 | Adirelle | thx anyway |
| 13:55.05 | nevcairiel | RaydenUni: not that every druid needs balance sets if he can do feral dps .. :P |
| 13:55.11 | Orionshock | Adirelle: check eu's wow site under support and connectivity, usualy they tell you to do a ping test and list the server |
| 13:55.16 | RaydenUni | yeah but if you want to |
| 13:55.23 | Adirelle | Orionshock, right ! |
| 13:55.33 | Diao | anyway most warriors are just asking that stance penalties for warriors be removed |
| 13:55.33 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: i only have 3 sets i carry with me |
| 13:55.37 | RaydenUni | maybe i'm disillusioned because my main is a priest and there really are only 2 sets for us |
| 13:55.39 | Diao | as it is currently too harsh relative to others |
| 13:55.41 | Orionshock | Diao: like what? |
| 13:55.45 | Diao | um |
| 13:55.45 | nevcairiel | i carry 1.5 sets with me |
| 13:55.51 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:55.52 | Diao | 10% damage output reduction in def stance |
| 13:55.57 | Diao | and 10% damage intake increase in zerk |
| 13:56.05 | Orionshock | Diao: & this is bad? |
| 13:56.10 | RaydenUni | the thing is who cares if prot warriors to 10% less dmg? |
| 13:56.16 | Orionshock | your in def , your not suposed to do dmg, |
| 13:56.19 | Diao | 10% less damage is 10% less threat |
| 13:56.20 | Diao | fyi |
| 13:56.21 | RaydenUni | and who cares if dps warriors take more dmg? |
| 13:56.24 | Diao | um |
| 13:56.30 | Diao | berserker stance is our pvp stance |
| 13:56.30 | Orionshock | as for 10%+ in zerker, you shouldn't be taking any stop pulling aggro |
| 13:56.40 | thul | two sets for rogue :-P res/sta/crit for pvp and ap/hit/crit for pve :-P |
| 13:56.40 | Diao | name one other class that takes as much damage as a warrior in pvp |
| 13:56.40 | nevcairiel | Diao: only on the dmg abilities, threat isnt really generated through damage on warriors =P |
| 13:56.52 | Diao | it is much more than you think |
| 13:56.56 | Orionshock | Diao: druids in caster form... |
| 13:56.57 | Diao | especially now that sunder doesn't scale very much |
| 13:57.02 | Diao | no orionshock |
| 13:57.09 | Diao | a caster always deals more damage to a warrior |
| 13:57.09 | RaydenUni | Diao but armor doesn't even care when i drop my SWP on them |
| 13:57.10 | Orionshock | sorry argument flawed |
| 13:57.11 | Diao | than any other class |
| 13:57.14 | Diao | exactly |
| 13:57.20 | Diao | but we take 10% more from all casters |
| 13:57.23 | Diao | than anybody else |
| 13:57.29 | RaydenUni | more than casters? |
| 13:57.33 | RaydenUni | i don't target warriors in pvp |
| 13:57.36 | Orionshock | Diao: you can always 3 shot casters |
| 13:57.38 | RaydenUni | i target priests and pallies and mages |
| 13:57.40 | Diao | ... |
| 13:57.44 | Diao | no i can't |
| 13:57.46 | Orionshock | i know this, it happens to me ... each and every time |
| 13:57.48 | Diao | maybe ones with zero resilience |
| 13:57.49 | Orionshock | it's verifiable |
| 13:57.55 | Diao | the ones i face in arena there is no way in hell i can 3shot |
| 13:57.56 | Diao | let alone 10 shot |
| 13:57.58 | Diao | lol |
| 13:57.59 | nevcairiel | pvp in wow = flawed by design |
| 13:58.00 | RaydenUni | although i will admit pvp as a warrior doesn't sound fun |
| 13:58.05 | Diao | basically RaydenUni |
| 13:58.15 | Diao | if you damage a priest/lock/mage with a 400 tick SWP |
| 13:58.18 | Orionshock | so Diao that means your fucked, move on |
| 13:58.21 | Diao | if you SWP a warr |
| 13:58.25 | Diao | he will take 440 a tick |
| 13:58.35 | RaydenUni | how much more life does he have? |
| 13:58.36 | Adirelle | eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com, I knew it >_< |
| 13:58.38 | nevcairiel | its a pve game with pve centerd content and characters, deal with it =P |
| 13:58.42 | kenlyric | or he could just not be in zerker? |
| 13:58.43 | Diao | compared to a lock? most likely less |
| 13:58.48 | Diao | compared to a priest? around the same |
| 13:58.51 | RaydenUni | yeah well locks are stupid |
| 13:58.55 | Diao | possibly 1k more than a maeg |
| 13:58.56 | RaydenUni | around 8000hp? |
| 13:58.56 | Diao | mage* |
| 13:58.59 | Diao | uhh |
| 13:59.02 | Diao | pvp priests have ~11k hp |
| 13:59.03 | Diao | unbuffed |
| 13:59.04 | kenlyric | the game is flawed if warriors are supposed to be in zerker stance for pvp |
| 13:59.06 | Diao | same with mages |
| 13:59.12 | RaydenUni | mm, sorry i'm not all pvp specced so i have less life |
| 13:59.13 | kenlyric | (pvp game) |
| 13:59.17 | Diao | warriors MUST be in zerk stance for pvp |
| 13:59.26 | Diao | due to all the pvp abilities being in berserker stance |
| 13:59.28 | kenlyric | Diao: then that's the problem. |
| 13:59.34 | Diao | we only stance switch to other stances to use certain abilities |
| 13:59.35 | Orionshock | Diao: but i want to cast healing spells in bear form, and retain all my rage in bare form when i switch back to it.. but they would call that over powered... |
| 13:59.41 | thul | well, as long as warriors ms me for 3k, whirlwind me for 2-3 k and then execute me for 5k, I'm dead :-P |
| 13:59.42 | kenlyric | zerker should be for when you're not taking damage. |
| 13:59.48 | Diao | exactly kenlyric |
| 13:59.49 | kenlyric | zerker should be pve dps |
| 13:59.52 | Diao | that's the argument |
| 13:59.57 | RaydenUni | now that i think about it, who would it hurt if we took away the damage increase when in dps mode? |
| 13:59.59 | Diao | warriors are forced to use zerk instead of battle for pvp |
| 14:00.29 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: it's because of what thul said that it needs to stay in |
| 14:00.34 | Diao | so either remove the penalty, or give access to the pvp abilities :p |
| 14:00.42 | Diao | and btw |
| 14:00.42 | RaydenUni | hmm ok |
| 14:00.43 | nevcairiel | so warriors in pvp suck, deal with it and move on |
| 14:00.46 | nevcairiel | or whine more on forums |
| 14:00.55 | thul | hehe |
| 14:01.01 | Diao | my best MS on a badly badly geared priest with berserking and enrage up |
| 14:01.02 | Orionshock | ~fail Diao |
| 14:01.02 | purl | Diao: Fail. |
| 14:01.05 | Diao | was 4k |
| 14:01.06 | RaydenUni | low level dungeons suck |
| 14:01.08 | Diao | and i am geared out the ass |
| 14:01.15 | RaydenUni | because of the range of levels they require no discipline |
| 14:01.17 | Diao | a hunter with NO buffs whatsoever aimed shot my priest for 4.5k |
| 14:01.20 | Diao | from 41 yards |
| 14:01.24 | RaydenUni | there is no structure and no pulling rules |
| 14:01.24 | Diao | that's clearly balance |
| 14:01.26 | Diao | ;) |
| 14:01.27 | thul | Diao: 4k... is quite lot, the best ambush i have gotten is about 2.8k mutilate: 3k |
| 14:01.36 | thul | hemo: 1.6k |
| 14:01.37 | thul | etc :-P |
| 14:01.44 | Diao | well thul i have pretty insane pvp gear ;) |
| 14:01.45 | thul | and I'm supposed to be the caster killer (rogue) |
| 14:01.48 | Diao | !c us blackrock diaox |
| 14:01.50 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/25/3). 12214 HP; 10693 Armour; 1668 AP; 253.500 Melee DPS; 31.95% melee crit; 64 melee hit; 6.12% dodge; 5.00% block; 341 resilience;[[ TBR: 2067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmtba ][ Talents: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=blackrock&n=diaox ][ Updated: Wed Dec 5 09:02:32 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:01.53 | nevcairiel | and mages pyro-crit for 6k |
| 14:01.55 | nevcairiel | so what? |
| 14:01.56 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:01.57 | RaydenUni | rogues... |
| 14:02.01 | RaydenUni | i used to be able to own rogues |
| 14:02.07 | RaydenUni | now there is no way i can one on |
| 14:02.10 | Diao | lol |
| 14:02.16 | Diao | rogues are pretty beastly |
| 14:02.20 | Diao | if they're fully pvp spec/gear |
| 14:02.38 | thul | well, I have decent daggers (malchazeen, emerald ripper) and ok ap/crit/hit :-P |
| 14:02.47 | thul | i want to have abilities that do 4k plus damage too.. |
| 14:02.52 | nevcairiel | mm kara loot and decent? *shrug |
| 14:03.00 | thul | well, if you're not a nolifer |
| 14:03.03 | thul | that is decent :-) |
| 14:03.05 | Orionshock | Diao: if you want balance - pve, b/c the pvp seen is f'ed to begin with |
| 14:03.13 | Diao | yep |
| 14:03.23 | thul | read everything I write with "this person plays not much wow at all"-googles, mkey? |
| 14:03.24 | Orionshock | play druid , then whine at me again |
| 14:03.26 | thul | first rule. |
| 14:03.31 | Diao | i rolled a druid alt and a priest alt |
| 14:03.33 | Diao | for pvp |
| 14:03.38 | Orionshock | don't count |
| 14:03.39 | Diao | because both classes are retarded when specced for healing |
| 14:03.45 | Diao | it's so easy |
| 14:03.48 | Diao | lol |
| 14:03.54 | thul | http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5277796 <- this guy is good. |
| 14:03.56 | Diao | and i plaeyd 3 level 60 druids pre-bc |
| 14:03.56 | Orionshock | unless you made it into KZ it don't count |
| 14:04.00 | Diao | for 2 years |
| 14:04.01 | thul | Orionshock: kz isn't decent |
| 14:04.02 | thul | :-P |
| 14:04.05 | RaydenUni | <thul> i want to have abilities that do 4k plus damage too.. <-- i have abilitis that do more than that. it's just they take 24 seconds to do it |
| 14:04.12 | Diao | lol |
| 14:04.21 | Orionshock | thul: ? |
| 14:04.23 | thul | RaydenUni:P |
| 14:04.26 | Diao | feral druids i admit have many problems in arena |
| 14:04.26 | thul | Orionshock: I'm just joking |
| 14:04.28 | thul | nevermind me |
| 14:04.34 | Orionshock | problems? |
| 14:04.35 | Diao | but resto druids are ridiculously op |
| 14:04.36 | Orionshock | some? |
| 14:04.38 | Orionshock | LOLZ |
| 14:04.39 | thul | I just want evisc to do 4-5k damage :-D |
| 14:04.41 | Diao | uh |
| 14:04.43 | Diao | i think you misread it |
| 14:04.44 | Diao | i said many |
| 14:04.45 | Diao | :) |
| 14:04.48 | Orionshock | many? |
| 14:04.49 | Orionshock | LOLZ |
| 14:04.52 | Orionshock | try again |
| 14:05.02 | Orionshock | don't bullshit me son |
| 14:05.16 | Orionshock | in pre KZ blues i did 300 white damage in cat form, |
| 14:05.27 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 14:05.31 | RaydenUni | i do 300 white damage with my wand |
| 14:05.34 | Orionshock | im in all epics now after clearing KZ for the 6th time |
| 14:05.39 | nevcairiel | resto is fun in arenas, it basicly needs 3 dps'ers to kill me, or 2 if one MS is involved. anything else i can outheal pretty much :P |
| 14:05.46 | Orionshock | and ... im still doing 300~ white damage in cat form |
| 14:05.47 | Diao | well feral druid/hemo rogue/holy pally is pretty bs |
| 14:05.55 | Diao | once that hemo rogue locks down your target |
| 14:05.57 | Diao | good god |
| 14:06.02 | Diao | insane damage |
| 14:06.13 | Diao | especially with mangle + hemo debuff together |
| 14:06.15 | thul | combat-muti rogue that gives you 10% more damage ftw :-P |
| 14:06.17 | nevcairiel | white dmg doesnt really scale on cats, but the yellow damage works pretty good for me :P |
| 14:06.20 | RaydenUni | how well do druids do spell dmg when resto specced? |
| 14:06.27 | thul | nevcairiel: STOP WHINING |
| 14:06.27 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: ... right ^.^ |
| 14:06.28 | Diao | it's pretty decent |
| 14:06.41 | Diao | it's good burst when you need to take out a target quick |
| 14:06.43 | Wobin | yeah, the mangle/hemo/bleed synergy is nice |
| 14:06.43 | RaydenUni | i know lvl 24 isn't where i should be looking, but i can't do much damage |
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| 14:06.46 | Diao | but sustained it's pretty bad |
| 14:06.56 | Diao | feral to level |
| 14:06.57 | Orionshock | i can't get a 5ptFB to crit over 2k consistantly if my life depended on it |
| 14:07.05 | Wobin | hm, did we get the new patch? |
| 14:07.05 | Diao | you aren't supposed to FB o_O |
| 14:07.17 | RaydenUni | yeah i know, but whenever i use my spells it takes about 3 before i run out of mana |
| 14:07.36 | RaydenUni | i'm still figuring out how to play a druid |
| 14:07.37 | thul | Orionshock: welcome to eviscerate that crits for 1500 and most of the time hits for 600 |
| 14:07.46 | Wobin | thul: =( |
| 14:07.47 | nevcairiel | i only FB while farming because mobs die from that then, and the dot wouldnt really help mcuh :P |
| 14:08.00 | RaydenUni | FB? |
| 14:08.01 | Orionshock | Diao: it's a valid ability, thus it should be just fine to use |
| 14:08.10 | Diao | rofl |
| 14:08.12 | Diao | uh |
| 14:08.12 | thul | Wobin: yes :-( |
| 14:08.18 | Lukian | RaydenUni, ferocious bite |
| 14:08.18 | Diao | case in point: rend |
| 14:08.24 | thul | evisc is the most useless piece of talent ever :-P |
| 14:08.25 | Diao | "valid ability" |
| 14:08.27 | Orionshock | bleed immune |
| 14:08.30 | Diao | aka total waste of 10 rage |
| 14:08.34 | Orionshock | have a day |
| 14:08.42 | Diao | well, bleed immune ok |
| 14:08.47 | Diao | but aside from that |
| 14:08.48 | Diao | lol |
| 14:08.57 | Orionshock | 90% of the mobs in KZ |
| 14:09.23 | RaydenUni | i should just idle in AV while in class... |
| 14:09.25 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 14:09.36 | Diao | lol |
| 14:09.46 | Diao | i "guard towers/bunkers" while in av |
| 14:09.47 | Orionshock | .. see... i should be able to mangle, shredx4, FB and have it do decent damage |
| 14:09.51 | Diao | meaning i tab out |
| 14:10.00 | Diao | and tab in every couple minutes to see if someone's attacking or not |
| 14:10.03 | RaydenUni | i made 5200 honor the other day |
| 14:10.04 | Orionshock | ffs rogues often 5x BS and Evis and do 6x more |
| 14:10.09 | RaydenUni | Diao you need a 2nd comp |
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| 14:10.13 | Diao | haha |
| 14:10.26 | nevcairiel | rogues that need 5 attacks to get 5 points suck o.O |
| 14:10.29 | Ozguli | 5200? |
| 14:10.30 | Diao | i don't know any rogues that evis now, unless target is almost dead |
| 14:10.39 | Diao | it's either rupture or envenom |
| 14:10.43 | Diao | or kidneyshot in pvp |
| 14:10.51 | Diao | and snd to keep dps high of course |
| 14:10.54 | RaydenUni | do kitties get an eviscerate like ability? |
| 14:10.55 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: even so, BS till 5cp's then evis, and do insane dps |
| 14:11.00 | Diao | yeah RaydenUni at 34 or so |
| 14:11.03 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 14:11.07 | Ozguli | RaydenUni kittens get IMBA dmg abilities |
| 14:11.10 | Diao | you get evis style ability but worse |
| 14:11.17 | RaydenUni | the kitty dot is pretty useless at 24 |
| 14:11.17 | Ozguli | their dps isn't any good in pve, but in pvp they're just op |
| 14:11.18 | kenlyric | much worse |
| 14:11.19 | Diao | it's like evis except it eats all remaining energy to do extra damage like execute |
| 14:11.19 | Orionshock | yet im fk'ed at ... 1/3rd or 1/8th of what the dumb rogue is doing |
| 14:11.27 | Diao | but the dmg:energy ratio is terrible |
| 14:11.39 | Ozguli | uses all energy but crits for 3.5k without full combo points |
| 14:11.56 | Orionshock | Ozguli: smoke pot often? |
| 14:12.08 | Ozguli | not really, no... |
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| 14:12.24 | Orionshock | ... i got 10 out of .. bout 2hrs dpsing tonight in KZ doing the 5pt FB to hit over 2k |
| 14:12.38 | Ozguli | not sure what my guildie was killing then |
| 14:12.46 | RaydenUni | it's sad |
| 14:12.48 | Diao | ogres or something with low armor? :P |
| 14:13.04 | Ozguli | eek, gogo people logging off in rp gear |
| 14:13.09 | RaydenUni | i have 11-12 epic pieces on my shadow priest, but swapping in about 4 blue items for healing gives me more + healing than i have +shadow |
| 14:13.15 | Orionshock | the entire dmg : Gear ratio is fucked for druids, so Diao don't whine at me about warriors getting the shaft over stances... ther are much more imprtant things to consider. |
| 14:13.16 | Diao | lol |
| 14:13.34 | Diao | our feral druid is pretty competitive tbh |
| 14:13.41 | Diao | but that's past kara level where stuff isn't bleed immune |
| 14:13.48 | RaydenUni | our feral druid switched to resto. makes Moroes much easier |
| 14:13.51 | Orionshock | exactly |
| 14:14.16 | RaydenUni | dangit, i want to play |
| 14:14.35 | Orionshock | now tbh, if anyone in the raid im in comes in under me in DPS or dmg done, they usualy either are in blues and mostly greens , or just suck at the class |
| 14:14.53 | RaydenUni | what are you? |
| 14:15.06 | Orionshock | !c us nagrand Atradies |
| 14:15.09 | ThraeBot | Orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/49/7). 9664 HP; 6365 Mana; 144 mana regen; 4169 Armour; 1250 AP; 156.500 Melee DPS; 19.53% melee crit; 78 melee hit; 24 +spell dmg; 68 +heal; 24.72% dodge; 87 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1429 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cnnek ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38xdjj ][ Updated: Wed Dec 5 09:15:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:15.10 | RaydenUni | let me just say now that hunters are ridiculous |
| 14:15.14 | Ozguli | hahahah.. some green geared rogue |
| 14:15.20 | Ozguli | could hardly outdps our tank |
| 14:15.22 | RaydenUni | hunters i severely outgear can out dps me |
| 14:15.30 | Ozguli | raid leader took him with us just because they were irl friends |
| 14:15.40 | Diao | lol |
| 14:15.41 | Diao | ozguli |
| 14:15.58 | Diao | our last kara run, i was OTing cause i didn't feel like respeccing prot this week and made another warrior do it |
| 14:16.09 | Diao | i came in 3rd dps over the entire run |
| 14:16.21 | Diao | gg BT level gear from pvp >.> |
| 14:16.22 | Ozguli | lol |
| 14:16.27 | Diao | and having a wf bitch of course ;) |
| 14:16.40 | Orionshock | nerf warriors |
| 14:16.53 | Ozguli | btw some warrior told she tanked both midnight and attumen at once, dual wielding... because healers got bored keeping her up with only renew |
| 14:16.55 | RaydenUni | i wish WWS showed me how much dmg i was giving all the other casters and the locks from misery and shadow weaving :) |
| 14:17.03 | Diao | lol |
| 14:17.15 | Diao | it's stupid how much of a dps difference wf totem makes |
| 14:17.26 | Ozguli | tell me about it >_> |
| 14:17.34 | Ozguli | as a rogue, at the trash that can't be taunted |
| 14:17.53 | Diao | whenever we have wf totem up i have to wait like |
| 14:17.56 | Ozguli | "Sword specialisation, windfury, windfury, windfury..." -> NOOOOO |
| 14:18.02 | Diao | until omen says the tank has 10k threat minimum |
| 14:18.04 | Diao | before i start dps |
| 14:18.09 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 14:18.10 | RaydenUni | nice |
| 14:18.17 | Diao | otherwise i have a chance of charge -> white attack, wf, wf ms |
| 14:18.19 | Diao | and all critting |
| 14:18.20 | Diao | = gg me |
| 14:19.05 | Diao | of course, on trash in kara i now just go all out and pull agro off our tanks cause i have so much hp/resil that the mobs can't kill me and i just get heals from our healers :D |
| 14:19.21 | RaydenUni | on trash in kara i watch |
| 14:19.28 | RaydenUni | sometimes i want |
| 14:19.34 | RaydenUni | sometimes i bubble the warlock |
| 14:19.38 | RaydenUni | *wand |
| 14:19.38 | Diao | lol |
| 14:19.47 | Diao | yea trash dies way too quickly for spri to do damage :( |
| 14:19.59 | RaydenUni | when the warlock and the mage are doing 2600dps and i can barley manage 200dps, it's just not worth it |
| 14:20.12 | Diao | yep, save mana for the next pull |
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| 14:20.29 | Diao | spri is definitely invaluable on fights like curator though |
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| 14:20.42 | Diao | we did a 2 min 38 sec curator kill the other day |
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| 14:20.51 | Diao | 2 healers, 1 tank, 7 dps (incl me with wf) |
| 14:21.00 | nevcairiel | we should do kara again, just to see how fast we can do it |
| 14:21.01 | Diao | had him in enrage like 10 sec after first evoc |
| 14:21.18 | Diao | both healers like half mana once enrage started |
| 14:21.30 | Diao | enrage starts, i burst down teh add while our spri goes all out on curator right away, ignoring the add |
| 14:21.35 | Diao | healer mana shoots right up to full |
| 14:21.37 | Diao | lol |
| 14:22.00 | Diao | he did almost kill himself with SW:D though.. that was kinda funny |
| 14:22.58 | RaydenUni | <Diao> spri is definitely invaluable on fights like curator though <-- i ran KZ with another guild the other day. they are much better geared than my guild. i ended up top DPS on curator. i was quite pleased |
| 14:23.00 | Stanzilla | 7k SW:D |
| 14:23.02 | Stanzilla | not funny :P |
| 14:23.10 | RaydenUni | although they did have a better geared spriest |
| 14:23.10 | Diao | you know what is very funny |
| 14:23.12 | RaydenUni | yeah, no SWD on curator |
| 14:23.13 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r56613 10Nauticus/ (7 files): |
| 14:23.13 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: v2.3.2 |
| 14:23.13 | CIA-8 | - build cache of formatted time values |
| 14:23.13 | CIA-8 | - fix external url for Astrolabe |
| 14:23.20 | Diao | i was playing spri alt |
| 14:23.21 | Diao | on netherspite |
| 14:23.26 | Diao | after being in blue beam for almost full duration |
| 14:23.29 | Diao | i wasn't paying attention |
| 14:23.31 | Diao | hit SW:D |
| 14:23.36 | Diao | bam crit 29k |
| 14:23.38 | Diao | i died |
| 14:23.40 | Diao | :( |
| 14:23.44 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 14:23.44 | RaydenUni | <Diao> healer mana shoots right up to full <-- awesome |
| 14:23.56 | Diao | i learned to take SW:D off the bar for netherspite after that |
| 14:23.56 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 14:24.00 | Diao | cause that was a painful experience |
| 14:24.01 | Ozguli | Diao lol |
| 14:24.05 | RaydenUni | awesome |
| 14:24.14 | RaydenUni | i just used SWD to kill the curator adds |
| 14:24.25 | Ozguli | Diao that's why they put locks there, to throw curse of DOOM |
| 14:24.33 | Wobin | DOOM |
| 14:24.34 | Diao | yea we use lock full duration blue beam |
| 14:24.42 | Diao | after the banish we use a spri for the extra mana return |
| 14:24.50 | Diao | then it's back to lock if we don't down him by second banish |
| 14:25.00 | Wobin | blue beam goes in... blue beam goes out... |
| 14:25.21 | Wobin | Sometimes it's hard to see if they actually intercept the beam properly =P |
| 14:25.39 | RaydenUni | i wish my guild was available for more KZ runs |
| 14:25.45 | RaydenUni | we do like 3-4 hours sunday night and that's it |
| 14:25.57 | Diao | lol |
| 14:26.03 | Diao | wow |
| 14:26.04 | RaydenUni | so we do everything up to curator |
| 14:26.09 | Diao | reading this thread on holy pally on EJ forums |
| 14:26.10 | RaydenUni | attumen, moroes, maiden, opera |
| 14:26.17 | Diao | I've been raiding with over 50% holy light crit and over 2200 healing for a couple weeks now and I really like the setup. I always get between 50-60% crit on wws and the crits are noticeably consistent and predictable since it's rare for me to see more than 3 non crits in a row. |
| 14:26.26 | Diao | but this is the important part |
| 14:26.30 | Diao | Last week during Archimonde I got 11 crits in a row, then 1 non crit, followed by 5 crits. |
| 14:26.33 | Diao | ... |
| 14:26.34 | Diao | that is sick |
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| 14:26.57 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:27.01 | Diao | 16/17 holy lights critting |
| 14:27.32 | thul | http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=493973&include=all < I like that photographer. |
| 14:28.10 | thul | hmm |
| 14:28.17 | Lukian | Diao, I did some spreadsheet work on gems, and spell crit kicks the ass of everything |
| 14:28.17 | Xinhuan | you count crits during boss fights? :o |
| 14:28.23 | thul | i wonder how much holy light heals for at 2200 healing |
| 14:28.25 | Lukian | (for paladin healing) |
| 14:28.26 | Diao | not me Xinhuan |
| 14:28.35 | Diao | it's from this thread on holy paladins in raids |
| 14:28.38 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 14:29.15 | Diao | those are some pretty nice photos thul |
| 14:29.20 | Diao | hm |
| 14:29.21 | Diao | i should head out |
| 14:29.31 | Diao | have a final in 1.5 hrs and i need to make/eat breakfast etc |
| 14:29.35 | Diao | cya guys later :p |
| 14:31.28 | thul | http://wowwebstats.com/vh66o6bw4vqlk?s=11137-11253&a=19 <- THAT depresses me Diao |
| 14:31.38 | thul | 1600 dps on paladins |
| 14:31.41 | thul | what is wrong with the world :-P |
| 14:32.03 | RaydenUni | <thul> http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=493973&include=all < I like that photographer. <-- bewbies! |
| 14:32.18 | thul | bewbies? :-P |
| 14:32.32 | Wobin | thul: Woah, blue filter much? =) |
| 14:32.37 | RaydenUni | does High Astromancer allow for aoe dps? |
| 14:32.44 | RaydenUni | if so then a pally could do a lot of dmg |
| 14:33.00 | thul | Wobin: hehe, i woudln't know, but I assume so |
| 14:33.09 | mykx | yeah she has no aggro table |
| 14:33.13 | mykx | you aoe her adds |
| 14:33.57 | thul | http://wowwebstats.com/vh66o6bw4vqlk |
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| 14:34.45 | Lukian | thul, estimated loading time was 3" - lol. |
| 14:34.50 | thul | ouch? :-P |
| 14:34.54 | thul | http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2599153 <- my favourite nude pic :-P |
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| 14:36.37 | Wobin | All right, Mr DeMille, I'm ready for my closeup... |
| 14:38.06 | RaydenUni | stop posting nude pics while i'm in class |
| 14:38.53 | Ozguli | you have auto-open? |
| 14:38.59 | Ozguli | +do |
| 14:39.15 | Wobin | cause, omg http://www.tubgirl.com =P |
| 14:39.18 | Arrowmaster | no he just wants to click them really badly |
| 14:39.28 | Wobin | (that's a nude!) |
| 14:39.29 | RaydenUni | no i don't |
| 14:39.35 | RaydenUni | i don't have auto open |
| 14:39.44 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: 2girls1cup.com |
| 14:39.52 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: yeah =) |
| 14:39.55 | RaydenUni | first watch the videos of people watching it |
| 14:39.57 | RaydenUni | hilarious |
| 14:40.10 | Arrowmaster | i havent even watched it yet |
| 14:40.13 | RaydenUni | i'm amazed at how many people have a gag reflex to it |
| 14:40.16 | Wobin | You don't need to =P |
| 14:40.16 | RaydenUni | yeah i haven't watched it |
| 14:40.43 | RaydenUni | i know there are things on the internet you can't "unsee" *cough*goatse*cough* |
| 14:41.05 | Ozguli | EEE SOAP NEED TO WASH MY BRAIN |
| 14:41.21 | RaydenUni | so we are getting WoW installed on all the lab machines here |
| 14:41.23 | Arrowmaster | haha did you watch it Ozguli? |
| 14:41.29 | Chompers | 2g1c > *.* |
| 14:41.41 | Ozguli | that fool mentioned the hello.jpg |
| 14:41.48 | RaydenUni | hai2u |
| 14:41.53 | RaydenUni | hai2u.com? |
| 14:41.55 | RaydenUni | i don' tknow the url |
| 14:42.10 | Ozguli | like, goat.sx? |
| 14:42.17 | RaydenUni | don't watch it if you really like the song "You spin me right round baby right round" |
| 14:42.25 | RaydenUni | goat.sx? |
| 14:42.28 | RaydenUni | is that the new one? |
| 14:42.32 | RaydenUni | original was goatse.cx |
| 14:42.39 | Arrowmaster | then it was goat.cx |
| 14:43.10 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that was pissed when goatse.cx got taken down, he lost an email address |
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| 14:46.11 | Pkekyo| | how to start an arena team? (costs etc) |
| 14:46.25 | Osstia | i only saw tubgirl once, and for less than 10 seconds, but it is forver burned into my memory |
| 14:46.41 | sb | Pkekyo|: 40g / player |
| 14:46.52 | Pkekyo| | = 200g? |
| 14:46.56 | sb | for 5v5, yes |
| 14:46.59 | Osstia | damn me for clicking on a TinyURL link |
| 14:47.35 | RaydenUni | so someone in a different channel was looking for a topic to write on, something that had affected our culture |
| 14:47.39 | RaydenUni | he didn't like my suggestion of goatse |
| 14:47.53 | Wobin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g |
| 14:48.03 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 14:48.06 | Pkekyo| | 3v3 cost then? 150? |
| 14:48.14 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: that's a deep topic |
| 14:48.22 | Arrowmaster | i grew up on irc, ive seen everything and been desensitized to it all for a long time |
| 14:48.27 | RaydenUni | kenlyric i really think an academic paper could be written on goatse |
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| 14:48.28 | Osstia | kenlyric, thats a bad pun |
| 14:48.30 | FinalX | Pkekyo|: who taught you maths? :) 3*40 = 120g :P |
| 14:48.34 | RaydenUni | it says a lot about our culture and the culture of the internet |
| 14:48.55 | nevcairiel | i never understood the point of rick rolling |
| 14:49.03 | Arrowmaster | me either |
| 14:49.11 | Wobin | It's a great song =P |
| 14:49.14 | kenlyric | does anything have a point? |
| 14:49.23 | thul | i have not seen 2girls1cup |
| 14:49.24 | Wobin | and that whole denim shirt/denim jeans combo? |
| 14:49.25 | thul | but i fooled my gf into watching it :-P |
| 14:49.31 | kenlyric | the internet is just random shit that happens. |
| 14:49.31 | Wobin | Only Rick can pull that combo off |
| 14:49.36 | Pkekyo| | FinalX: noone did, that's the problem :> |
| 14:49.37 | thul | but I'm off, fetching mate at airport |
| 14:49.40 | thul | so, cya guys! |
| 14:49.46 | thul | (and girls?) |
| 14:49.49 | Osstia | see ya |
| 14:51.12 | Mergitur | Has anyone else had an issue with dash where you can no longer get it to activate by moving it to the top right corner? |
| 14:51.31 | Wobin | I use a hotkey |
| 14:52.05 | Mergitur | figured it out... a frame had landed there... something named Spot, not sure what it belongs to ;) |
| 14:52.26 | Mergitur | I do to , but I use the same hotkey for the Gorefiend fight, so it's nice to be able to access it without |
| 14:53.00 | Wobin | ..."Sneeze while I PEE" |
| 14:53.05 | Wobin | speaking of random shit =P |
| 14:53.12 | Wobin | gogo youtube =P |
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| 14:54.19 | Mergitur | is Legoblocks available for download? I asked the question earlier, but assuming no one knew the answer at that time, so trying again :) |
| 14:55.34 | Osstia | I must not be familiar with what you are asking for, because Legoblocks are in a rubbermade container in my closet, and are most assuredly not available for you to download. |
| 14:55.46 | Osstia | I like them way too much |
| 14:55.56 | nevcairiel | you know, download creates copys |
| 14:56.00 | nevcairiel | your original doesnt vanish |
| 14:56.22 | Mergitur | Osstia: http://www.wowwiki.com/LegoBlock |
| 14:57.42 | JoshBorke | Mergitur: yes |
| 14:57.50 | JoshBorke | Mergitur: let me send it to wowi |
| 14:58.06 | JoshBorke | right now you can get it from http://legos-wow.googlecode.com/svn/tags/LegoBlock-Beta1 |
| 14:58.37 | Mergitur | JoshBorke: thanks. I couldn't see the download link from the googlecode page |
| 14:59.51 | Mergitur | JoshBorke: svn works for me, so don't do it on my account :) Thanks a lot. |
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| 15:01.44 | JoshBorke | Mergitur: added a download link on googlecode |
| 15:03.13 | Mergitur | JoshBorke: thanks. One question. If I create three blocks which are attached. Then if the one in the middle is removed, will the others snap together or will they stay apart? (I'm planning on using it for display for a trainingwheels-like addon for shadowpriests) |
| 15:03.52 | JoshBorke | Mergitur: stay apart |
| 15:06.36 | Mergitur | JoshBorke: ok. Thanks |
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| 15:10.12 | CIA-8 | 03fenlis * r56614 10MrPlow/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:10.12 | CIA-8 | MrPlow |
| 15:10.12 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.12 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.12 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.45 | [Ammo] | well that breaks mrplow nicely for soulshard bags :p |
| 15:10.54 | [Ammo] | unless he fixed that :) |
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| 15:21.22 | RaydenU | what's a decent ambush crit? |
| 15:21.41 | nevcairiel | 2 |
| 15:25.44 | dylanm | Boo. |
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| 15:42.02 | baer_ | moin |
| 15:42.17 | cranvil | tach |
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| 15:55.50 | Pkekyo| | is there some Aced expense history addon? |
| 15:56.32 | durcyn | there's a fubar-ized version of accountant on wowinterface |
| 15:58.18 | baer_ | Pkekyo|: you mean like the one from CT? |
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| 15:59.39 | dylanm | I think rophy had some thing... |
| 16:00.13 | dylanm | Oh he dongle-fied it. Awesome. |
| 16:00.31 | Pkekyo| | baer_: something like that |
| 16:01.12 | baer_ | well, if you just want a slim version, check out MoneyFu. i don't know if there's a more complex variant out there. |
| 16:01.24 | baer_ | haven't seen anything like it yet. :) |
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| 16:03.19 | winkiller | Pkekyo|: ah sec |
| 16:03.21 | Pkekyo| | moneyfu didn't quite do the trick back when I used it |
| 16:03.30 | winkiller | someone asked on EJ very recently |
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| 16:03.40 | winkiller | in one of the 3 ui threads... |
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| 16:04.18 | Pkekyo| | hms |
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| 16:04.31 | winkiller | I#ll look |
| 16:06.31 | winkiller | auditorfu |
| 16:06.46 | winkiller | aceprofit |
| 16:06.47 | winkiller | garbagefu |
| 16:07.04 | winkiller | oneof those ws it |
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| 16:08.02 | dylanm | Addons with "ace" in the name -> stab stab stab |
| 16:08.15 | baer_ | *hehe* |
| 16:08.27 | baer_ | looks like i could use some popcorn. :-} |
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| 16:16.20 | kergoth | auditorfu was the expense history one, but i think it only covers how much you spent in what areas per session/day/total, it wont go into any more detail than that, so i guess it depends on your needs |
| 16:18.17 | Pkekyo| | would like to know how much I waste on stupid shit tbh |
| 16:18.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:18.31 | Polarina | Hmm... Should I drop Leatherworking and take up Mining for money? |
| 16:18.46 | dylanm | What class? |
| 16:19.00 | Polarina | Hunter. |
| 16:19.09 | Polarina | Currently Leatherworking/Skinning |
| 16:20.39 | Polarina | I'm just worried if it would be hard for me to take back Leatherworking (Currently 350) later on, or something... |
| 16:21.00 | Pkekyo| | prolly would |
| 16:21.07 | Pkekyo| | well...not if you skin enough stuff now to level back up |
| 16:21.12 | Polarina | You mean, I should change? |
| 16:21.41 | CIA-8 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56615 10RaidCast/RaidCast.lua: RaidCast: made more options 'work' |
| 16:21.53 | Pkekyo| | but starting a crafting profession from scratch again really sucks...so if you're gonna be dependant on LW in the future, I wouldn't take up mining, go questing instead! |
| 16:21.59 | dylanm | Polarina: It's always expensive around 350 or so. People rag on LW a lot and say that it's only useful if the expansion brings grand improvements. |
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| 16:22.06 | Polarina | I think I'll create few mining bags and several kits (For my epic PvP set I'll get later) and then switch. :) |
| 16:22.12 | dylanm | Polarina: I take it you have the Netherscale stuff? |
| 16:22.22 | Polarina | dylanm: No, I don't have that.. |
| 16:22.32 | dylanm | What do you have? |
| 16:22.41 | Polarina | dylanm: What do you mean? |
| 16:22.56 | dylanm | In terms of gear. I guess I'm asking whether it's really useful to you. The profession, I mean. |
| 16:23.10 | Polarina | dylanm: Nothing special, except for the leatherworking trainer stuff. I'm working on getting a PvP gear. :) |
| 16:23.29 | Polarina | The only useful thing so far is the kites and bags. |
| 16:24.05 | Arrowmaster | my rogue friend was leatherworking/skinning and droped skinning for mining |
| 16:24.07 | dylanm | Netherscale comes from the specialization trainers I think. |
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| 16:24.24 | Arrowmaster | hes always using drums so theres no way he would drop leatherworking |
| 16:24.27 | Polarina | dylanm: Isn't that for 375? |
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| 16:24.34 | dylanm | Polarina: Yeah. Are we not there yet? |
| 16:24.48 | Polarina | dylanm: I'm 350 Leatherworking. |
| 16:26.04 | SunTsu | Rogue? primal strike set ;) |
| 16:26.17 | Polarina | The only thing I can make and find useful are the Knothide Kites and Bags.. |
| 16:26.27 | dylanm | Polarina: I guess it comes down to whether or not the gear is good for you. The nice thing about netherscale is that it's chest/bracers/belt so you can still get some nice set bonuses off of the other stuff. |
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| 16:26.48 | dylanm | If you aren't looking at what you can do at max level then of course all crafting professions are horrible. |
| 16:27.05 | SunTsu | Polarina: There are great epic hunter patterns |
| 16:27.15 | Polarina | SunTsu: PvP gear... |
| 16:28.37 | Polarina | So, I'm going to make a few stacks of kites and several mining bags (Alts and friends) and then switch. |
| 16:29.13 | SunTsu | Polarina: So "Living Dragonscale Helm" is PvP gear? |
| 16:29.26 | Polarina | SunTsu: ? |
| 16:29.38 | Polarina | I still don't have my epic flying mount. |
| 16:31.02 | SunTsu | Polarina: I am taling about http://thottbot.com/i29729 and such |
| 16:31.05 | SunTsu | talking even |
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| 16:31.29 | dylanm | Not that one. |
| 16:31.34 | Polarina | SunTsu: Not interested in that item. |
| 16:31.42 | dylanm | +spell? Nooo. |
| 16:36.55 | SunTsu | Polarina: http://thottbot.com/i29519 wouldn't be something for you? |
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| 16:37.32 | Polarina | SunTsu: Nope. Far from it. |
| 16:37.33 | dylanm | SunTsu: Again, shaman armor. |
| 16:37.34 | SunTsu | or http://thottbot.com/i30040 |
| 16:38.02 | dylanm | http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=616 |
| 16:38.53 | Polarina | SunTsu: Nope. |
| 16:39.19 | Polarina | dylanm: Nope. |
| 16:39.23 | Polarina | I need resilence. |
| 16:39.35 | dylanm | Oh you're only in it for PvP? Screw it then. |
| 16:39.48 | dylanm | Drop LW like now. |
| 16:39.58 | Osstia | but are there any craftable resillience pieces? |
| 16:40.02 | Osstia | in any profession? |
| 16:40.08 | dylanm | There are enchants. |
| 16:40.10 | dylanm | That's about it. |
| 16:40.11 | Osstia | I can't think of any off the top of my head |
| 16:40.11 | Polarina | dylanm: Reslience is good for PvE too. :) |
| 16:40.20 | dylanm | Polarina: For a hunter? I would disagree. |
| 16:40.37 | SunTsu | Polarina: Ah, you are looking for PvP gear. Well, then really drop it |
| 16:40.39 | Polarina | dylanm: The PvP gear gives good agility and +Crit%. :) |
| 16:40.44 | Osstia | in PvE a Hunter should not need resilience |
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| 16:41.13 | Polarina | Few kites and mining bags first. :) Then I'll drop it. Thanks all. |
| 16:41.15 | dylanm | PvP gear does indeed have some good offensive stats. But you are wasting ivalue on stats that aren't relevant for PvE. Sometimes that's okay if you can't get anything better. |
| 16:41.39 | SunTsu | Polarina: In my opinion, the only usable PvP gear is the one you get at the PvP vendors |
| 16:41.52 | dylanm | Plus OP weapons. |
| 16:42.02 | Osstia | I like the new PvP cloaks you get from badges |
| 16:42.06 | dylanm | Like if I had a catclysm's edge or something I would never take it off. |
| 16:42.35 | SunTsu | dylanm: I was talking about armor mainly |
| 16:42.40 | dylanm | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=86:79;crs=11:1;crv=0:0 |
| 16:42.59 | dylanm | Apparently there are a couple resil patterns. |
| 16:43.20 | Polarina | dylanm: Blacksmithing and Tailoring patterns.. |
| 16:43.29 | dylanm | Yep. |
| 16:44.01 | dylanm | Just correcting what I said earlier about there not being any armor crafts with +resil. They're rare but they're out there. |
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| 16:44.23 | SunTsu | PvP gear normally is sub par for PvE - except maybe for tanking |
| 16:45.00 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.13 | Osstia | SunTsu I would agree with you there |
| 16:45.30 | Osstia | with the exception of the weapons |
| 16:45.41 | dylanm | But yeah the armor and stuff is less than ideal |
| 16:46.15 | SunTsu | Osstia: Still I am mainly talking about armour. But, even those, they normally are lacking some stats, that you could use better in PvE than resilience |
| 16:46.43 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 16:46.49 | dylanm | From my point of view there just isn't enough spell damage to make it okay. |
| 16:47.36 | Osstia | True, but for most classes they are still a huge upgrade from anything outside of higher en 25 man raiding |
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| 16:48.09 | Osstia | so even though the stats could be better without resil, they are generally still better for a large percentage of players |
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| 16:48.36 | dylanm | Osstia: True. |
| 16:48.55 | sedatedChipmunk | all of the survival hunter gear in the game is pvp |
| 16:49.37 | dylanm | Although I dunno. |
| 16:49.38 | Ozguli | console command to assign raid target? |
| 16:50.03 | dylanm | Again, coming from a shadow priest you look at the top-end PvP chest and it gives you like +40 damage. |
| 16:50.19 | dylanm | Whereas the FSW robe gives you around 72. |
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| 16:50.30 | dylanm | And that's easy as crap to get. |
| 16:50.52 | dylanm | Although tailoring is singular in its usefulness. |
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| 17:02.35 | Smj | dylanm: This boils down to the fact that dead priests deals no damage at all. |
| 17:03.33 | dylanm | Right. But in PvE that's less of an issue, although it is a concern once you get to SSC. |
| 17:03.55 | baer_ | yup, FSW got very less +sta on it. |
| 17:04.17 | baer_ | but honestly, it's 3 parts of equip that boost your (shadow) spelldmg massively. |
| 17:04.29 | baer_ | get some pvp bracers and necklace to compensate. :) |
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| 17:25.26 | QuantumDelta | T5 instances aren't too bad for AoE DMG |
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| 17:25.59 | QuantumDelta | Solarian, Hydross, Karathress, Vashj |
| 17:26.01 | QuantumDelta | rest is fine? |
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| 17:27.23 | thul | did you miss me? :-P |
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| 17:30.29 | thul | I guess not : |
| 17:30.30 | thul | :-( |
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| 17:36.48 | Polarina | Where's the best place to mine copper? |
| 17:38.06 | Polarina | Level 70 Night Elf Hunter. |
| 17:38.11 | Polarina | Survival. |
| 17:38.26 | Stanzilla | elwyn |
| 17:38.29 | thul | hmm |
| 17:38.35 | thul | starting areas |
| 17:38.35 | EvilJohn | dark eastern shorelands |
| 17:38.42 | EvilJohn | shire |
| 17:39.16 | Polarina | Teldrassil? |
| 17:39.32 | EvilJohn | any starting area |
| 17:39.42 | Polarina | Teldrassil then. |
| 17:39.42 | Ellipsis | anyone have a link to that talent calculator that had like the original release talents? |
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| 17:43.21 | Estil | copper? |
| 17:43.21 | Polarina | I can't seem to find any veins in Teldrassil. |
| 17:43.25 | Estil | barrens imo |
| 17:43.38 | Estil | elwynn works great too |
| 17:43.54 | Polarina | Dun Morogh? |
| 17:44.16 | Estil | from my experience |
| 17:44.18 | Estil | elwynn has been the best |
| 17:44.19 | Estil | bar none |
| 17:44.21 | Estil | for copper |
| 17:44.28 | Aeyan | There's no veins period in Teldrassil =P |
| 17:44.29 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=1731 |
| 17:44.45 | Aeyan | Elwynn was always my favorite for copper |
| 17:44.53 | Xuerian | Polarina: Don't mine copper, just buy it and smelt it. >_o |
| 17:44.57 | Aeyan | The long ridge across the zone |
| 17:45.00 | Polarina | Xuerian: :( |
| 17:45.17 | Xuerian | You just leveling mining or engineering/BS too? |
| 17:45.19 | Gngsk | Xuerian, some people might like the scenery! |
| 17:45.26 | Xuerian | blah |
| 17:45.31 | Xuerian | Seen it so many freaking times |
| 17:45.51 | Gngsk | I'm sure you can find a zone you haven't seen more than a few times to mine in |
| 17:45.52 | Polarina | Gngsk: http://www.wowhead.com/?object=1731#mining |
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| 17:46.55 | Xuerian | uh. |
| 17:47.22 | Xuerian | Hmm, well, maybe Polar. Seen em all too many times myself :X |
| 17:49.46 | Polarina | I'm Polarina, not Polar. Polar is a level 70 Human "Frost" Mage on the same realm as I, Scarshield Legion. |
| 17:50.04 | Xuerian | You, however, are the closest match to Polar in this channel :) |
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| 17:55.03 | baer_ | what Threat-1.0-compatible displays are out there? |
| 17:55.13 | baer_ | except omen. |
| 17:55.27 | Antiarc | Violation, Assessment, Aloft |
| 17:55.31 | Antiarc | Pitbull |
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| 17:55.59 | baer_ | Violation, Assement and Aloft got a threat-bar? oO |
| 17:56.06 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 17:56.36 | baer_ | what do i need omen for? ^^ |
| 17:56.49 | Antiarc | Just if you want a standalone meter |
| 17:56.51 | Antiarc | And warnings |
| 17:57.03 | baer_ | what does grid use? |
| 17:57.36 | Shirik | uh |
| 17:57.43 | Shirik | frames? |
| 17:57.47 | dylanm | That would be GridStatusThreat |
| 17:58.21 | dylanm | I believe. |
| 17:58.35 | dylanm | There's a plugin for everything :) |
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| 18:00.32 | baer_ | yes, but is this one based upon Threat-1.0? |
| 18:01.21 | Antiarc | I believe so |
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| 18:06.37 | Gnarfoz | on what else would it be based? ^^ |
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| 18:09.16 | kenlyric | cartlords suck |
| 18:09.20 | kenlyric | *catlords |
| 18:09.45 | sb | mhh - no 43M eur for me :/ |
| 18:12.45 | sb | 9, 10, 24, 28, 39, 42 / 33 :p |
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| 18:18.06 | Polarina | Here I am, about to drop my Leatherworking (361) for Mining on my level 70 Night Elf "Survival" Hunter. Counting down from 10 to 0, should anyone here have anything to say regarding that decission, please do so now. |
| 18:18.07 | Polarina | 10 |
| 18:18.11 | Polarina | 8 |
| 18:18.14 | Polarina | 6 |
| 18:18.17 | Paene | halt! |
| 18:18.22 | Polarina | Paene: Why? |
| 18:18.33 | kenlyric | because that was annoying? |
| 18:18.40 | Paene | there's really nice craftable gear from LW |
| 18:18.43 | Paene | and yes |
| 18:18.44 | Paene | that is annoying |
| 18:18.47 | kenlyric | otherwise, go ahead. |
| 18:18.51 | kenlyric | do you need cash or gear? |
| 18:18.54 | Polarina | Paene: I'm up for the PvP gear... |
| 18:18.57 | Polarina | Cash. |
| 18:19.50 | Polarina | 5 |
| 18:19.55 | Polarina | 2 |
| 18:19.59 | Polarina | 1 |
| 18:20.03 | Polarina | 0.5 |
| 18:20.09 | Ellipsis | needs moar spam |
| 18:20.12 | Polarina | 0.25... |
| 18:20.12 | Paene | MOAR |
| 18:20.17 | Polarina | 0! o.O |
| 18:20.21 | Polarina | *cry* |
| 18:20.22 | Paene | hi Ellipsis :) |
| 18:20.28 | Paene | long time no talk |
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| 18:21.29 | snowflake | hey i want to use wau again to update my addons...it says it needs .NET 2.0 Runtime - available from MSDN can i also use the 3.x version available there? |
| 18:21.36 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 18:21.41 | Tornhoof | 3.x includes 2.0 |
| 18:21.43 | snowflake | thank you |
| 18:22.13 | snowflake | which version would you recommend for me if wau is the only thing that needs such a runtime at the moment? |
| 18:22.31 | Tornhoof | 2.0 |
| 18:22.35 | Tornhoof | 3.5 is bloated |
| 18:22.59 | snowflake | ty again |
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| 18:28.14 | Polarina | Bye bye Leatherworking. *CRY* |
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| 18:28.59 | neenee | hm.. Does anyone have a copy of 'Have a Merry Little Christmas' - the sheet music? |
| 18:29.26 | neenee | I should probably ask this in another channel, but I haven't a clue where. |
| 18:30.02 | thul | hehe |
| 18:30.05 | neenee | Maybe i can buy it online. |
| 18:30.08 | thul | try #progrock or something |
| 18:30.09 | thul | :-P |
| 18:30.26 | neenee | =] |
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| 18:32.19 | neenee | There must be some service that allows paypal payment and downloading of a pdf |
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| 18:34.32 | genetik- | neenee: http://www.virtualsheetmusic.com |
| 18:34.41 | genetik- | second result of a google search |
| 18:34.45 | neenee | checking now. Thanks for the reply :) |
| 18:36.03 | neenee | hm |
| 18:36.11 | neenee | no mention of that particular song |
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| 18:41.28 | CIA-2 | 03cronan * r56616 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: |
| 18:41.28 | CIA-2 | BossWhisperer: |
| 18:41.28 | CIA-2 | - Update koKR |
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| 18:44.38 | Estil | ultra fast question: macro for using items is /use Healthstone or something? |
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| 18:45.07 | kenlyric | should be, but is hearthstone /cast? |
| 18:45.08 | dylanm | Estil: Yeah. /use and /spell are interchangeable and they just kinda work. |
| 18:46.15 | Estil | okay |
| 18:46.16 | Estil | thanks |
| 18:46.51 | omega | good spots to grind neatherweave cloth? |
| 18:47.19 | genetik- | i used to grind the demons in western shadowmoon valley for aldor faction and cloth |
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| 18:47.56 | thul | all humanoids basically? |
| 18:48.06 | genetik- | they drop cloth |
| 18:48.20 | genetik- | but they're demons |
| 18:48.23 | kenlyric | i'd say demons or blood elves |
| 18:48.25 | dylanm | Aldor or Scryer? |
| 18:48.28 | omega | scryer |
| 18:48.41 | omega | just need a spot with plenty mobs |
| 18:49.01 | genetik- | then blood elves unless you don't mind trading faction items |
| 18:49.14 | dylanm | Understood. But the mobs you're farming generally will drop other things that could be useful to you so you may as well synergize. |
| 18:49.22 | omega | k, where are there plenty? |
| 18:49.35 | dylanm | Yeah the BT blood elves then... |
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| 18:50.43 | genetik- | i'd probably do the ones to the east of the alliance flight path town in shadowmoon valley if i had to kill elves |
| 18:50.59 | dylanm | But it really depends on what others are farming, too. |
| 18:51.03 | genetik- | right |
| 18:51.15 | Estil | everybody likes to kill elves |
| 18:51.18 | CIA-2 | 03scorpio0920 * r56617 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 18:51.18 | CIA-2 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 18:51.18 | CIA-2 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 18:51.40 | dylanm | The comments for the cloth type on wowhead and such are always good. |
| 18:52.04 | dylanm | Really that's how I powerleveled my tailoring. Just went to the the spots most often mentioned in wowhead comments and went to down with DoTs. |
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| 18:53.04 | omega | k, thanks for the pointers |
| 18:53.05 | thul | dotclasses 4easylvling :-P |
| 18:53.26 | dylanm | s/down/town/ |
| 18:54.09 | dylanm | Looks like a couple spots on Netherstorm are tops... |
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| 18:54.27 | CIA-2 | 03bayi * r56618 10beql/ (options.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
| 18:54.27 | CIA-2 | beql: |
| 18:54.27 | CIA-2 | - Fixed more taint issues (Petbar works for me in combat while dismounting...) |
| 18:54.27 | CIA-2 | - Fixed ReloadUI blocked message |
| 18:54.30 | omega | yeah |
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| 18:56.43 | neenee | hm. no luck |
| 18:57.11 | dylanm | With...? |
| 18:57.13 | Cheads | beql ftw =) |
| 18:57.24 | thul | beql? |
| 18:57.35 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to have a look at beql one day, when MonkeyQuest is beyond salvaging ^^ |
| 18:57.56 | dylanm | Didn't the MQ guy have a video of the next version on which he was working? |
| 18:58.08 | Gnarfoz | 3.0 is in alpha, but I'm still using 2.x |
| 18:58.18 | kergoth | the alpha hasnt been updated in quite a while, he seems otherwise occupied |
| 18:58.42 | dylanm | Yeah nQL would be my choice if I used something like that. |
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| 19:02.01 | CIA-2 | 03scorpio0920 * r56619 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 19:02.01 | CIA-2 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 19:02.01 | CIA-2 | - Remove itemID:33483 form Heroic Mode Token Rewards. |
| 19:03.29 | Pkekyo| | rofl, alliance aren't good at dealing with retaliatory ganking :p |
| 19:03.36 | dylanm | Nooope. |
| 19:03.39 | thul | hmm? :-P |
| 19:03.48 | dylanm | But someone needs to teach them to stay away from Tarren Mill. |
| 19:03.52 | thul | elaborate :-D |
| 19:04.25 | Pkekyo| | just ganked a priest (that had gotten my entire group killed) so much that he made a horde char and begged for a truce :p |
| 19:04.50 | dylanm | Hah. |
| 19:05.04 | dylanm | Don't taze me brooo |
| 19:05.19 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 19:05.29 | Pkekyo| | haven |
| 19:05.34 | Pkekyo| | 't laughed this hard for ages |
| 19:05.39 | Pkekyo| | oh well...atleast he acted mature about it :) |
| 19:05.48 | dylanm | Start RPing with it. |
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| 19:06.12 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 19:06.16 | kenlyric | "Riker, Geordi, and Tasha all join forces to be sort of an Exposition Voltron" |
| 19:06.24 | Pkekyo| | nah, logged after I granted him safe passage |
| 19:06.27 | kenlyric | wil wheaton is my hero. |
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| 19:06.46 | dylanm | Man any episode that focused on him was so bad though. |
| 19:06.48 | dylanm | In a great way. |
| 19:07.09 | kenlyric | but "exposition Voltron" is awesome. |
| 19:07.38 | Pyro_Vespin | a while back i installed the pitbull mod, and it had a thing in it for me to access a config menu for all ace2 addons i had installed, anyone know what module or library that is that i could install to just have that functionallity |
| 19:08.00 | dylanm | Well if we're talking Ace2 then Niagara is what you want. |
| 19:08.06 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 19:08.19 | Ellipsis | Niagara is fairly similar to that window |
| 19:08.30 | Fisker- | hi cncfanatics :( |
| 19:09.03 | dylanm | I mean I guess you could install LibRockConfig-1.0. |
| 19:09.42 | omega | man, leveling tailoring is evil! |
| 19:09.52 | omega | I need 90 imbued bolts for 360->375 |
| 19:09.58 | omega | thats almost 90 stacks fo cloth |
| 19:09.59 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 19:10.05 | dylanm | Yeah that phase is never the best. |
| 19:10.18 | Pkekyo| | omega: don't get me started on blacksmithing 360-375... I had to PAY people to make stuff for them |
| 19:10.22 | dylanm | You have it so much better than some of the other professions though. |
| 19:10.25 | dylanm | ^ |
| 19:10.44 | thul | I have to do BS soon :-P |
| 19:10.57 | dylanm | I don't even know what I'm going to do on this new rogue... maybe JC. |
| 19:11.04 | dylanm | Just to have one. |
| 19:11.06 | thul | mining at 105 and bs at 95 now :-P |
| 19:11.10 | thul | dylanm: skinning/lw |
| 19:11.10 | thul | :-P |
| 19:11.40 | dylanm | More like lolworking. The tribal set doesn't even have sockets in it. |
| 19:11.41 | Pkekyo| | thul: leveling BS is a bloody nightmare |
| 19:12.00 | Pkekyo| | though I love my purty lionheart champion |
| 19:12.23 | omega | Pkekyo|: hehe |
| 19:13.02 | dylanm | I guess I could have all sorts of drums. |
| 19:13.03 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, I want bs-items :-P |
| 19:13.05 | thul | kind of |
| 19:13.13 | thul | dylanm: yup, and make moneyey |
| 19:13.20 | dylanm | I don't know about that. |
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| 19:14.35 | thul | dylanm: well, guild mate sells lot of her stuff |
| 19:14.43 | dylanm | Armor kits? |
| 19:15.02 | xyu` | i havne't seen a high demand for many BS items |
| 19:16.03 | Pkekyo| | thul: what kind of BS items? |
| 19:16.26 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: I think he's talking about LW. |
| 19:16.27 | Pkekyo| | also: blacksmithing is fucking USELESS to make money if you're not the only one on the server with a really good recipie |
| 19:16.44 | Osstia | <iddqd> Chimi: hit F1 |
| 19:16.53 | Osstia | <Interex> dont just press it.. hit it.. get out a hammer and HIT it |
| 19:17.00 | Osstia | I love help channels |
| 19:17.08 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: thulPkekyo|: well, I want bs-items |
| 19:17.14 | Pkekyo| | no, blacksmithing :> |
| 19:17.32 | dylanm | Oh I didn't see that bit. |
| 19:17.44 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, why did u ping me ! |
| 19:17.49 | dylanm | I'm a tad self-absorbed. |
| 19:18.24 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 19:18.26 | Estil | If you type IDDQD in WoW, do you turn into: 1) Warlock 2) Druid 3) Warrior |
| 19:19.12 | Pkekyo| | thul: if you want to make money, forget blacksmithing....if you want a good pvp weapon, forget blacksmithing....if you want something you don't find anywhere else...get blacksmithing :) |
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| 19:19.28 | cncfanatics | sigh, relogging |
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| 19:19.35 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, I want he weapon :-P |
| 19:19.40 | thul | the |
| 19:19.49 | xyu` | IDKFA for hunter imo :P |
| 19:19.56 | dylanm | Mace, axe or sword? |
| 19:19.57 | xyu` | IDNOCLIP: mage |
| 19:19.59 | thul | my guess is that I'll use arena weapons though |
| 19:19.59 | thul | :-P |
| 19:20.09 | dylanm | I assume you want this for pew pew. |
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| 19:20.34 | leethal | I'm most likely asking a very, very stupid question now. But, is there any docs around for someone that didn't use ace2 a whole lot that is sorta interested in peeking at ace3? |
| 19:20.56 | Pkekyo| | thul: which one? |
| 19:21.05 | dylanm | Hardly any docs at all for Ace3. It isn't released yet. |
| 19:21.12 | leethal | mm, guessed so |
| 19:21.25 | Pkekyo| | if you're only going blacksmithing for a 2h weapon, you're much better off doing arenas for a month |
| 19:21.29 | Pkekyo| | and get the s3 sword |
| 19:21.29 | xyu` | Are the daily heroics the same for all servers? |
| 19:22.13 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 19:22.17 | dylanm | xyu`: No, don't believe so. |
| 19:22.24 | xyu` | it's BM for me |
| 19:22.25 | xyu` | today |
| 19:22.42 | Pkekyo| | heroics random per server....daily BG random per battlegroup, cooking random per server |
| 19:22.44 | dylanm | For all the new dailies it's randomized at the server level. |
| 19:22.52 | dylanm | Curses Pkekyo|. |
| 19:22.54 | dylanm | Too fast. |
| 19:23.22 | xyu` | er it's durhold for me not bm |
| 19:23.42 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: hmms? |
| 19:23.44 | thul | dylanm: well, both i guess. |
| 19:23.48 | thul | Pkekyo|: which pvp wep? |
| 19:23.52 | thul | the 2h mace i guess |
| 19:24.03 | Pkekyo| | I love swords :) |
| 19:24.21 | Pkekyo| | got the lionheart champion...gonna see if I can buy vortexes for executioner soon |
| 19:24.26 | dylanm | thul: Well you sort of have to choose, no? |
| 19:24.35 | dylanm | Deep Thunder is pretty popular for sure. |
| 19:24.52 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: Yeah I have this unnatural attachment to swords as well. Even if I can get an axe that's something of an upgrade I just wait :-/ |
| 19:25.07 | dylanm | It's kind of dumb. |
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| 19:25.37 | thul | dylanm: well, not yet :-P |
| 19:25.44 | thul | I'm like lvl 25 :-P |
| 19:25.47 | dylanm | Indeed. |
| 19:25.48 | cncfanatics | FUCK ATI |
| 19:25.50 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 19:25.51 | cncfanatics | idiots |
| 19:25.55 | cncfanatics | learn to release working drivers |
| 19:26.01 | dylanm | In the eaaars. |
| 19:26.25 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: I've had a sword fetish ever since I saw OEB for the first time...still carry it around<3 |
| 19:27.57 | Pkekyo| | just as I still carry my zin'rokh and might shoulders :p |
| 19:29.06 | thul | haha |
| 19:29.14 | thul | i like the new sword |
| 19:29.35 | RaydenU | http://www.mmocrunch.com.nyud.net:8090/2007/12/04/top-5-most-memorable-events-in-mmorpg-history/ |
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| 19:30.18 | Fisker- | HOLY SHIT |
| 19:30.24 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33478#screenshots <- Pkekyo| |
| 19:30.28 | Fisker- | STUPID IDIOTS ARE STUUUUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIID |
| 19:30.46 | Fisker- | The average IQ in our country just dropped down by 50 |
| 19:30.57 | Pkekyo| | thul: meh, like my zin'rokh more :< |
| 19:31.11 | dylanm | Oh yeah. Jin'rohk. That's what the vengeful greatsword looks like btw. |
| 19:31.24 | dylanm | Fisker-: What happened now? |
| 19:31.34 | thul | Pkekyo|: pft:P |
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| 19:31.38 | Fisker- | retard just happened :O |
| 19:31.43 | Pkekyo| | thul: zin > all |
| 19:31.58 | Fisker- | There's some article where EA comments on "Activision Blizzard"-thing, and EA welcomes the competition |
| 19:32.00 | Pkekyo| | jin < zin |
| 19:32.05 | thul | Pkekyo|: i like the new one :-P |
| 19:32.16 | Fisker- | Then someone says that EA have sold more copies than Blizzard have made games |
| 19:32.20 | Fisker- | NO FUCKING WAY, REALLY? |
| 19:32.23 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.33478#62169 <- LOOK at that |
| 19:32.31 | dylanm | No way. |
| 19:32.34 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 19:32.41 | dylanm | That's awesome. |
| 19:32.58 | Fisker- | you mean EA have sold over 20 copies of all their games in the history of time? |
| 19:33.06 | Fisker- | I mean it is EA, but i think they can manage that one |
| 19:33.13 | dylanm | I'm glad 20 people bought Madden hurray. |
| 19:37.27 | Pkekyo| | thul: l2oldschool :> |
| 19:39.19 | thul | pfft |
| 19:39.34 | thul | oldschool is just another word for "i choose to define my own history lines, stfu" |
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| 19:40.09 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 19:40.21 | Pkekyo| | pre-tbc > tbc imo |
| 19:40.32 | thul | neeh |
| 19:40.35 | thul | not for me :-) |
| 19:40.50 | thul | impossible to get good gear for casuals, getting assraped in pvp if you are casual.. etc :-P |
| 19:41.09 | Pkekyo| | heh |
| 19:41.11 | Pkekyo| | not really |
| 19:41.26 | Pkekyo| | I did great in pvp tbh, and were casual as hell...didn't own a single piece of pvp gear |
| 19:42.49 | kenlyric | arena is a minimal time investment, It may take more weeks, but it's not a terrible lot more work. |
| 19:42.57 | Pkekyo| | true |
| 19:43.05 | Pkekyo| | I like old-wow pvp alot more though :< |
| 19:43.11 | Pkekyo| | I miss raiding astranaar |
| 19:43.19 | kenlyric | even casually with reasonable skill can probably get 1500 rating. |
| 19:43.36 | thul | arena = great for casuals :-P |
| 19:43.47 | Fisker- | TBC > pre-tbc |
| 19:43.48 | Fisker- | fact |
| 19:43.53 | thul | I've got sucky skills and I'm casual, and I'm at 1500-1700 |
| 19:43.55 | thul | = good gear |
| 19:43.56 | thul | :-D |
| 19:43.56 | Pkekyo| | lies Fisker- |
| 19:44.00 | Fisker- | fact |
| 19:44.20 | thul | I wonder what MS one could get with the jin |
| 19:44.22 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: Yeah world PvP should be a lot more awesome than it is. |
| 19:44.44 | dylanm | The objectives and stuff that they put in... no one seems to care. |
| 19:44.47 | dylanm | I mean I know I don't. |
| 19:44.51 | thul | world pvp is like this: If I'm on my rogue and i get the opener... I win |
| 19:44.57 | thul | if I'm on my paladin, I win |
| 19:45.18 | thul | if a hunter, lock, mage, warrior sees me first and I'm the rogue, I lose. |
| 19:45.21 | thul | simple :-P |
| 19:45.44 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: I used to raid teldrassil by myself on lvl 8, 13, 17, 18 and 24 :p |
| 19:46.07 | dylanm | I still run down and mess with Southshore before I get overwhelmed every once and a while. |
| 19:46.15 | thul | hmm |
| 19:46.17 | thul | weird people :-P |
| 19:46.17 | Pkekyo| | there is no more world pvp... |
| 19:46.26 | Pkekyo| | there's ganking fucktards, arenas and battlegrounds |
| 19:47.08 | Fisker- | needs moar grudge |
| 19:47.50 | Ozguli | world pvp hmm... |
| 19:47.57 | Ozguli | what was it before? |
| 19:49.45 | Ozguli | now I just find it like.. "oo, belf pala killing some lowbie alliance camp..." *dot dot dot fear, run a bit, /lol, face melt* |
| 19:50.44 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: constant raids on alliance cities for me atleast :) |
| 19:51.01 | dylanm | We haven't had a decent-sized raid on Orgrimmar in a couple months. |
| 19:51.02 | dylanm | Kinda sad. |
| 19:51.07 | Ozguli | gah... on my wannabe pvp realm there's ONE horde guild that does some world pvp |
| 19:51.26 | Ozguli | and that's just "OOOO 25-man raid ganking someone who killed their guild member!" |
| 19:51.38 | alext | transfer to the slowly dying server nazjatar where there is a guild that specializes in airborne world pvp |
| 19:51.47 | Ozguli | o.O |
| 19:51.50 | Ozguli | ok that sounds good |
| 19:52.04 | alext | "Church of Sethroth" or somethin |
| 19:52.17 | alext | i know its def "churk of se*" |
| 19:52.19 | Ozguli | like... wth do they do? |
| 19:52.24 | alext | er "church of se*" |
| 19:52.28 | Ozguli | OOO GOT TO DING 70! |
| 19:52.30 | alext | i just dont remember the rest of the letters |
| 19:52.36 | alext | uhm they got a lot of mages |
| 19:52.36 | Ozguli | on my priest, that is... slofall is so imba |
| 19:52.41 | alext | they fly above you on epic mounts |
| 19:52.48 | Ozguli | can't sheep no more |
| 19:52.48 | alext | and slowfall / pom / pyro / etc |
| 19:52.49 | alext | and u die |
| 19:52.59 | Ozguli | pom pyro? |
| 19:53.04 | Ozguli | ok if they have multiple mages... |
| 19:53.12 | Ozguli | I can eat one non-raid buffed pyro crit anytime |
| 19:53.21 | alext | its typically just one |
| 19:53.29 | alext | maybe they do more than that i dont know |
| 19:53.31 | alext | i just know i die |
| 19:53.55 | alext | not on that realm anymore tho...they are horde side i was alliance on a slow ass mount so it was easy to own me in the air |
| 20:00.30 | thul | I love being mutilate specced when it comes to world pvp.. |
| 20:00.42 | thul | ambush, mutilate, ks, cb, muti, dead cloth |
| 20:00.56 | dylanm | Mutilate is going to be fun I think. |
| 20:01.04 | dylanm | Probably going to have to beg to get into any sort of raid though. |
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| 20:01.41 | thul | that is the problem |
| 20:01.53 | thul | have to grind money not only for pots and foods, but also for respec each week |
| 20:01.54 | thul | ba |
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| 20:03.35 | Aenslaed | thul: daily quests |
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| 20:04.21 | thul | Aenslaed: ofc |
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| 20:04.25 | thul | or, I only do the pvp one mostly |
| 20:04.37 | thul | but still.. i would love to have one set of gear and one spec both in pvp and pve :-P |
| 20:04.47 | Aenslaed | nobody does |
| 20:04.52 | Aenslaed | the only class that comes close is paladin |
| 20:05.35 | dylanm | Having a couple sets of gear I don't mind. |
| 20:05.41 | dylanm | I can get that. |
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| 20:06.14 | dylanm | The spec problem... classes other than paladins can get away with one spec but the ones that can't are in something of a bind. |
| 20:06.24 | kenlyric | no raid spec will ever be a pure pvp spec because no raid spec assumes you're going to get hit a lot. |
| 20:06.35 | kenlyric | "get away with" and "best" really aren't the same. |
| 20:07.00 | Aenslaed | get away with as in do poor in raids in their pvp spec? |
| 20:07.11 | dylanm | Or the other way around, sure. |
| 20:07.24 | dylanm | I dunno. My shadow spec is pretty much the same in either situation. |
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| 20:07.55 | Aenslaed | shadow = shadow priest? |
| 20:07.57 | dylanm | Yeah. |
| 20:08.14 | CIA-2 | 03julith * r56621 10GridStatusHostileUnit/ (4 files): |
| 20:08.14 | CIA-2 | GridStatusHostileUnit: initial commit |
| 20:08.14 | CIA-2 | - publishes a grid state if a unit in the raid turned hostile (probably because it is charmed) |
| 20:08.21 | Aenslaed | pvp shadow and pve shadow has like 7 allocations different... |
| 20:09.02 | dylanm | I guess it depends on your style. |
| 20:09.07 | dylanm | What would you change? |
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| 20:09.48 | Aenslaed | spirit tap, shadow affinity, imp swp, shadow focus, silence, shadow weaving |
| 20:10.07 | Aenslaed | and probably misery as well |
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| 20:10.13 | CIA-2 | 03scorpio0920 * r56622 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.tw.lua: |
| 20:10.13 | CIA-2 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 20:10.13 | CIA-2 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 20:10.14 | dylanm | You'd take those out? See I like having the silence. It sucks that you have to eat two points but... |
| 20:10.34 | Aenslaed | you cannot afford having silence in a pve spec |
| 20:11.15 | dylanm | Psh. |
| 20:11.31 | cncfanatics | god, I forgot how big 1024x768 was -.- used to 1600x1200 :( |
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| 20:11.42 | cncfanatics | just turned it down for my linux to have better performance |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-2 | 03julith * r56623 10GridStatusHostileUnit/: |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-2 | GridStatusHostileUnit: |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-2 | - added externals |
| 20:11.50 | Aenslaed | so if you are content with mediocrity, letting down either your arena team or your raid force for selfish reasons, all the more power to you. |
| 20:12.13 | Aenslaed | but there is absolutely no class that has the same spec and same gear for both pvp and pve. |
| 20:12.25 | cncfanatics | rogues can pvp & pve with combat swords |
| 20:12.31 | Jops | WoW doesnt require optimal playing to win though :> |
| 20:12.34 | cncfanatics | it will ofc not be optimal, but not mediocre either |
| 20:12.38 | dylanm | You're being a little too serious about this. |
| 20:12.41 | Tornhoof | resto shamans just swap gear |
| 20:12.42 | thalie | do holy pallies have to respec for pvp? |
| 20:12.46 | Aenslaed | cncfanatics: no, prep ar hemo is the best pvp spec atm. |
| 20:12.49 | thul | neh |
| 20:12.49 | Jops | No |
| 20:12.55 | cncfanatics | Aenslaid, nerfed ? |
| 20:13.01 | cncfanatics | Aenslaed* |
| 20:13.03 | thul | Aenslaed: well, hemo got (is getting) nerfed |
| 20:13.12 | thalie | tornhoof: i'm enhance, so i don't have that luxury ;) |
| 20:13.17 | thul | i vote for removing the positioning requirement for mutilate |
| 20:13.30 | thul | that is my suggestion :-P |
| 20:13.39 | Aenslaed | thalie: only 3 skill points need to be changed for pallies, hence my statement earlier saying pallies are the only ones close to holding true for that statement. |
| 20:13.44 | Aenslaed | cncfanatics: its not nerfed yet. |
| 20:13.53 | thalie | aen: sorry - i missed that statement, apologies |
| 20:13.57 | Aenslaed | and its not the hemo that makes the build strong |
| 20:14.01 | Aenslaed | its the ar and prep |
| 20:14.16 | cncfanatics | well, true |
| 20:14.20 | cncfanatics | but its worthless without the hemo |
| 20:14.31 | thalie | what about a UA lock, would he have to respec for pvp ;) |
| 20:14.37 | cncfanatics | a dps nerf to ur main attack hurts |
| 20:14.59 | NeoTron | UA locks can pvp but are not the optimal lock pvp spec |
| 20:15.10 | Aenslaed | thalie: ua is pretty crap in pve |
| 20:15.21 | NeoTron | also you might have rather different point investment outside of affliction even if you go there |
| 20:15.57 | Aenslaed | if you go UA in a raid force with t4+ gear, you'll be riding the bottom of the meters |
| 20:16.34 | NeoTron | Aenslaed: err. no |
| 20:16.56 | ramoz | what no? |
| 20:16.58 | Aenslaed | considering the enemy target will be debuff capped, yeah. |
| 20:17.00 | NeoTron | T4 and T5 are still strong affliction. not until T6 does it really start to be more geared towards destro |
| 20:17.11 | Aenslaed | no, i'm talking in relation to others in the raid neotron |
| 20:17.12 | NeoTron | and even then affliction can very competetive |
| 20:17.22 | Aenslaed | unless you like reapplying dots that fall off in half duration or less |
| 20:17.23 | dylanm | HOW ABOUT DEM RET PALADINS |
| 20:17.35 | thul | 1 day played, lvl 24 :-P |
| 20:17.42 | thul | i have trouble if i want 10 days played lvl 70 |
| 20:17.48 | NeoTron | we're typically not debuffed capped even with multipel shadow priests and 5 locks (3 destro however) |
| 20:18.16 | NeoTron | mind you there's a huge difference between a good UA lock and a bad one |
| 20:18.23 | NeoTron | we have good locks overall |
| 20:19.04 | Xuerian | I love being so blissfully OT here, but this makes me weep tears of joy. http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/video/2/trinity_trailer_1920x1080.wmv |
| 20:19.07 | thul | dylanm: you saw the link i gave you today? with ret-palas? :-P |
| 20:19.10 | Aenslaed | ret pally pvp is good for bg pvp, and maybe a gimmic arena 2s team. pve I dunno. I'd rather take a prot pally over a ret pally |
| 20:19.12 | thul | dylanm: and dps? :-P |
| 20:19.13 | durcyn | i used to top the meters with UA in T4/FSW. someone's smoking something here. |
| 20:19.21 | dylanm | thul: No. Please repeat. |
| 20:19.43 | thul | Aenslaed: i arena with a ret-pala, repentance + blind + sap + HoJ + CS + KS etc is nice, and his burst damage is insane |
| 20:20.00 | NeoTron | any spec lock is good if played properly |
| 20:20.04 | Aenslaed | thul: yes, a gimmic 2s team |
| 20:20.10 | NeoTron | and with beginning t6 gear, affliction is still competetive |
| 20:20.17 | thalie | i've got a ret pally in my guild, he does okay - not as well on dps as me (enhance shaman) |
| 20:20.22 | NeoTron | mind you having 5 aff locks and 3 shadow priests will be a huge failure |
| 20:20.23 | Shadowed | Until you realize without SL you get squashed in 5 seconds while I /laugh at you for having no health or resilience. |
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| 20:20.48 | thul | http://wowwebstats.com/vh66o6bw4vqlk <- dylanm |
| 20:20.51 | thul | Aenslaed: gimmic? :-P |
| 20:20.59 | thul | dylanm: look at his dps :-P |
| 20:21.07 | Aenslaed | only time you'd ever wander into arena as UA is if its a double lock team stuck in a timewarp. |
| 20:21.40 | thalie | hahah no way aen |
| 20:21.47 | NeoTron | thul: so you have a very crappy lockl that only puts out 542 DPS? lawl |
| 20:21.58 | thul | NeoTron: not my guild :-) |
| 20:22.06 | thul | and for all I know, maybe he has other tasks :-P |
| 20:22.09 | NeoTron | what the hell. the lock at the 17th place is really crap |
| 20:22.15 | NeoTron | on void reaver... no :P |
| 20:22.33 | thul | I would be at like 5-7 place somewhere with my dps... as a rogue :-P |
| 20:22.38 | thalie | aen: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark+Iron&n=Gathund |
| 20:22.39 | NeoTron | if I see my locks below the top, oh, 7 or so (when we have 3-5 locks in the raid) I'd be shocked |
| 20:22.55 | thul | so, 5/7 in top 7 should be locks? :-P |
| 20:22.56 | thalie | affliction lock - was on one of the top 5v5 last season |
| 20:23.04 | thul | then i pity your rogues, mages, hunters etc :-P |
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| 20:23.23 | NeoTron | thul: somethnig like that |
| 20:23.42 | NeoTron | as I said, we have good locks :P |
| 20:23.44 | thul | our locks are mostly behind rogues, hunters and mages. |
| 20:23.53 | thul | ofc behind me, beacuase i rock :-P |
| 20:23.53 | NeoTron | see that makes no sense |
| 20:23.59 | NeoTron | or they suck |
| 20:24.09 | NeoTron | got wws? |
| 20:24.14 | thul | nopes. |
| 20:24.22 | dylanm | Man the return on Judgement of Wisdom are kinda piss, eh? |
| 20:24.33 | dylanm | s/return/returns/ |
| 20:25.14 | Aenslaed | thul: the person you linked, is not a main player on that team. Looks like he was powered to gladiator. |
| 20:25.34 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Denlog <- lock NeoTron me -> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve |
| 20:25.37 | Aenslaed | thul: he's not the one who got it to 2300 last season. Look at the stats on it. |
| 20:25.51 | thul | Aenslaed: well, I was just talking about his pve dps :-P |
| 20:26.48 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Matex <- that is my pvp paladin Aenslaed |
| 20:28.32 | NeoTron | sufficienly geared to do good dps |
| 20:28.38 | kergoth | did anyone ever make an addon to construct closetgnome sets based on stats like resistances? |
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| 20:29.12 | NeoTron | at karazhan level gearing, there's no excuse for a lock not to top/be near top of the DPS |
| 20:29.16 | NeoTron | other than suckage |
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| 20:29.28 | thul | well, it is not as much suckage as it is my ownage :-P |
| 20:30.00 | NeoTron | thul: you might be good but that lock must be bad |
| 20:30.10 | thul | the boring thing about roguism is that it turns into cycles. |
| 20:30.37 | thul | garrote, snd, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, rupture, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, snd, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, hemo, rupture... |
| 20:31.02 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/cyhyoovmgigpg?s=2177-2420 |
| 20:31.10 | NeoTron | what is truly funny about that kill... |
| 20:31.17 | NeoTron | is that no lock remembered to put Curse of Shadows up |
| 20:31.43 | NeoTron | so we all did 10% less dmg than we should have.. I (3rd) also forgot to swap out of my trash spell haste gear (that severely lacks spell hit for a boss fight) |
| 20:32.27 | thul | I really miss a enhc shaman in my group :-( |
| 20:33.01 | thul | hmm, why so low presence on the rogue? |
| 20:34.18 | NeoTron | died |
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| 20:34.36 | NeoTron | got icebolted and not healed |
| 20:34.39 | dylanm | That'll do it. |
| 20:34.49 | NeoTron | right after a frost nova |
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| 20:40.41 | FtH|Daemona | hrmmm i know this sounds stupid, but why doesnt Cartographer Routes work for non-outland zones. |
| 20:41.43 | Aeyan | Works fine for me |
| 20:41.53 | Aeyan | I spent more than enough time in Burning Steppes to prove that =P |
| 20:42.05 | FtH|Daemona | i cant select the zones from the dropdown when i try creating a new route |
| 20:42.07 | FtH|Daemona | :( |
| 20:42.29 | FtH|Daemona | uhm |
| 20:42.33 | FtH|Daemona | relog |
| 20:42.35 | FtH|Daemona | now it works |
| 20:42.37 | Aeyan | Dunno if it makes a difference, but I don't think I've ever tried creating a route when I wasn't already in that zone. |
| 20:42.44 | FtH|Daemona | but it added only the zone in which i logged out. |
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| 20:45.01 | Gnarfoz | it's no real use there anyway, because of obstacles - but it *should* work, last I checked? |
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| 20:46.21 | Aeyan | Depends on the zone, but it helped me a lot with Thorium mining |
| 20:46.50 | thul | quick question to the warriors here: I'm lvling as arms now (big 2h and HS spamming).. but I have all my talents in the fury tree.. +crit, rage-generation, cleave.. is this stupid? |
| 20:47.15 | Aeyan | I never liked the cleave talent |
| 20:47.34 | Aeyan | But aside from that, no 2h fury is viable for most parts of the game |
| 20:47.49 | Aeyan | Err, clarify... 2h is viable =P |
| 20:48.05 | thul | heh |
| 20:48.10 | thul | but it would be better to spec arms for 2h? :-P |
| 20:48.16 | Aeyan | Usually |
| 20:48.30 | Aeyan | Imp Slam, Imp Whirlwind, and a slow 2h works fairly well too |
| 20:48.45 | Aeyan | Imp Slam and a reeeeal slow weapon is the awesome |
| 20:48.51 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVVuo <- I'm something like that so far (yes, I'm lvl 24.. :-P ) |
| 20:49.28 | NeoTron | what exactly is cartographer routes? |
| 20:49.34 | Aeyan | I'd have put the imp cleave and blood craze in commanding presence |
| 20:49.41 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 20:49.44 | Aeyan | But I guess it doesn't matter much when that +% is so small |
| 20:49.50 | Aeyan | At your level |
| 20:49.51 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: calculates shortes possible routes through all given nodes for a zone |
| 20:49.59 | thul | I just like to pull 2 mobs and cleave ahoy |
| 20:50.21 | Aeyan | Yeah, gives you a line from node to node on your map/minimap/battlemap of choice |
| 20:50.34 | Aeyan | Well, you don't have the joy of whirlwind yet anyway =P |
| 20:51.44 | Nargiddley | once you could get 2h + a weapon spec from arms it might be worth switching |
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| 20:52.37 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 20:52.40 | Aeyan | I was 2h fury until 62 (when 2.3 came out) |
| 20:53.14 | Nargiddley | I went back and forth while leveling |
| 20:53.18 | Ozguli | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Ghiifk |
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| 20:53.31 | Aeyan | I switched to arms in 2.3 for a few reasons |
| 20:53.32 | Ozguli | no idea what was my gear when I logged out, rate it anyway |
| 20:53.59 | Aeyan | One, I like 2h weapons better than dual wielding and in Outland dual starts to outshine 2h in the fury tree |
| 20:54.06 | Aeyan | Two, they took my death wish away =( |
| 20:54.06 | Ozguli | nvm |
| 20:54.12 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I see |
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| 20:54.16 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: handy |
| 20:54.23 | Ozguli | checked and it's like 2 weeks old |
| 20:54.23 | Gnarfoz | awesome is more like it |
| 20:54.24 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:54.26 | Aeyan | And three, since I'm the tank of my little group of friends, the healer appreciated it |
| 20:54.26 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:54.28 | kenlyric | i can't stand 2h. |
| 20:54.35 | kenlyric | I fall asleep between swings |
| 20:54.37 | dylanm | Why not? |
| 20:54.43 | kenlyric | I get that it's more damage, but zzzz |
| 20:54.45 | dylanm | Aha. |
| 20:54.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, weird |
| 20:55.07 | dylanm | Makes your screen wonderfully uncluttered if you use an SCT mod though amiright |
| 20:55.11 | Jops | I gave up 2h while leveling, but once I got some gear I found it way more fun |
| 20:55.23 | dylanm | number........... number............. biiig number.......... |
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| 20:55.42 | Jops | Not if you got lots of rage, can spam slam 24/7 :> |
| 20:55.44 | Gnarfoz | I spend 80% of the time I play my rogue optimizing and theorycrafting, but when I played a warrior to 48, I was annoyed at 2H because it was so slow, even though it outdamaged fury |
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| 20:56.24 | kenlyric | more damage is useless to me if i'm too bored to play. |
| 20:56.27 | dylanm | They should have something else for you to do in between swings, I agree. |
| 20:56.41 | kenlyric | overpower! |
| 20:56.57 | dylanm | Like a little mini Stepmania game that can increase your hit chance. |
| 20:57.05 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 20:57.09 | dylanm | Among other incredible ideas. |
| 20:57.13 | kenlyric | I wrote nanowrimo this year between swings |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | wtb stepmania addon |
| 20:57.53 | thul | hehe |
| 20:57.56 | thul | i like big numbers:P |
| 20:57.59 | thul | that is what i miss with my rogue |
| 20:58.03 | thul | big numbers.. :-D |
| 20:58.09 | dylanm | I almost want to write it. |
| 20:58.15 | dylanm | The screenshots would be so ballin' |
| 20:58.27 | kenlyric | I find big number fun but only when they make the sound in topscorefu. |
| 20:58.31 | kenlyric | then I don't notice them. |
| 20:58.31 | Ozguli | big numbers? You want big numbers go play a mage |
| 20:58.38 | kenlyric | but I notice the combat speed continuously |
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| 20:58.47 | Ozguli | or go deep sub+assasination |
| 20:58.56 | dylanm | Someone find me good arrow graphics... |
| 20:58.59 | Ozguli | as rogue :P |
| 20:59.04 | kenlyric | it's the primary reason I hate playing a paladin above all others. |
| 20:59.20 | kenlyric | i want to play my rogue sublety. ;) |
| 20:59.22 | Ozguli | that's so OO PWN BIG CRITS... No wait, the mage still has 6k hp after my 4k ambush crit |
| 20:59.27 | kenlyric | since I turn my warriors into combat rogues |
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| 21:02.14 | Audrina | Anyone know any mods that record all received loot in raids? |
| 21:02.38 | thul | yeah.. 4k ambush isn't fun :-( |
| 21:02.42 | thul | (and my highest is 3.8) |
| 21:02.49 | durcyn | Audrina: NRT |
| 21:03.08 | Ozguli | ms warrior + crippling/mind numbing poison rogue pwns casters |
| 21:03.15 | Audrina | Thanks |
| 21:03.16 | Ozguli | in 2v2 |
| 21:03.57 | Ozguli | thul my highest ambush was 39xx |
| 21:04.04 | Ozguli | without any good gear |
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| 21:06.16 | Audrina | I cant find NRT |
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| 21:07.48 | thul | Ozguli: ambush is maybe not that gear dependant? i dunno |
| 21:08.09 | Audrina | Any other mods that do the same thing? |
| 21:08.15 | Ozguli | AP matters damn much |
| 21:09.07 | cncfanatics | ambush is an attack with a huge multiplier |
| 21:09.13 | cncfanatics | ofc its gear dependant -.- |
| 21:09.16 | Kinja | Ok, first off. I googled it. But I couldn't find the answer |
| 21:09.56 | Kinja | Mods I install with WAU doesn't get activated. At all. I have chosen to load out of date addons. I have installed with externals, I have tried deleting the x, y, z folders etc. |
| 21:09.58 | Kinja | thing is |
| 21:10.09 | Kinja | Nothing, zip, nada |
| 21:10.15 | Kinja | not even an error message |
| 21:10.21 | dylanm | The addons menu in the game shows nothing? |
| 21:10.27 | Kinja | oh it does |
| 21:10.43 | Ozguli | envenom isn't gear dependant, easy 3k crits :P |
| 21:10.47 | Kinja | so I thought: outdated mods that just don't work, so I tried JUST AtlasLoot since I know it works |
| 21:10.50 | Kinja | still nothing |
| 21:10.51 | dylanm | x, y, z folders? |
| 21:10.58 | Kinja | WDB, WTF Insterface |
| 21:11.00 | Kinja | *interface |
| 21:11.15 | Kinja | here is the interesting thing |
| 21:11.21 | Kinja | you know the version numbers in WAU? |
| 21:11.26 | Kinja | they are all negative for me |
| 21:11.30 | dylanm | Are you sure everything is enabled for your character? |
| 21:11.36 | Kinja | 100% sure |
| 21:11.44 | dylanm | I don't fully understand the profile system Blizzard uses for it. |
| 21:11.58 | dylanm | It's never really doing it for "All characters" which is what I frickin' want. |
| 21:12.13 | dylanm | Uh like in WAU they are? |
| 21:12.18 | dylanm | For each addon? |
| 21:12.24 | Kinja | mhm |
| 21:12.27 | dylanm | Latest WAU? |
| 21:12.30 | Kinja | yup |
| 21:12.37 | Kinja | just downloaded a new copy and tried it |
| 21:12.38 | dylanm | I don't use anything like that myself so I don't know what that implies there. |
| 21:12.54 | Kinja | let me walk you through this, I will redo everything as I just "cleaned" the folders out again |
| 21:13.11 | Kinja | only BlizzardUI mods installed right now (you know, the autogenerated one) |
| 21:13.29 | thul | Ozguli: ah, ok, my ap is sucky |
| 21:13.38 | thul | Ozguli: I'm trying to get lots of +hit:P |
| 21:13.40 | Kinja | Installing the Ace2 lib and atlasloot with externals. |
| 21:13.49 | Ozguli | you don't need no +hit in pvp |
| 21:13.57 | Ozguli | 70+ will doo fine, especially talented |
| 21:14.07 | Kinja | Version numbers in the not installed list shows as "n/a" |
| 21:14.09 | thul | well, I do pve :-P |
| 21:14.13 | dylanm | Just install AtlasLoot with externals. I feel like downloading the libraries and stuff is only going to give us more headaches here. |
| 21:14.18 | thul | and pvp |
| 21:14.43 | Kinja | oh.... |
| 21:14.48 | Kinja | OH |
| 21:14.48 | dylanm | And the character selection screen menu does nothing? |
| 21:14.58 | Kinja | I am going to go shoot myself now... |
| 21:15.04 | Kinja | hold on, verifying |
| 21:15.06 | Kinja | ... |
| 21:15.06 | dylanm | Er, besides show these things like they oughta be working. |
| 21:15.51 | Kinja | WAU worked fine ofc, and I did clean the folders nicely and all |
| 21:16.12 | Kinja | just that the...shortcut on the desktop pointed to an old backup of the game |
| 21:16.23 | Kinja | You may point and laugh. |
| 21:16.34 | dylanm | Ooh. That'll do it. |
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| 21:31.46 | Amadeo | Hello my lovelies |
| 21:31.57 | cc-work | is anyone using CML to display mem/lat/clock? |
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| 21:35.54 | Amadeo | They're making a Star Trek MMO? |
| 21:38.26 | durcyn | god, i hope not. |
| 21:38.46 | NivFreak | So is Grayhoof someone in here? |
| 21:39.23 | Amadeo | durcyn: http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?/images/sshots/Screenshot/8824/8824_47570b082c1a0.jpg |
| 21:39.41 | Amadeo | Not Blizzard, but Perpetual Entertainment |
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| 21:45.45 | Fisker- | old Amadeo |
| 21:45.46 | Fisker- | and yeah durcyn |
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| 21:50.22 | dylanm | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 21:50.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'grayhoof', dylanm |
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| 21:51.45 | Sole | good morning |
| 21:52.12 | dylanm | NivFreak: If he does come around I haven't seen it... outside of commit messages. |
| 21:52.43 | Sole | lol I think NECB is going to become a complete UI package soon |
| 21:53.00 | genetik- | why? |
| 21:53.03 | Sole | "other latest additions: Killing Blow - Sound System!" - damn thats relevant to timers |
| 21:53.15 | dylanm | Dude really needs to scale back. |
| 21:53.23 | dylanm | The stated job of necb is hard enough. |
| 21:53.35 | Sole | hes just doing whatever people suggest |
| 21:53.58 | Sole | I might suggest he add action bars around the bars so we can quickly react to it...that'l keep him busy :P |
| 21:54.28 | dylanm | NivFreak: Is something wrong with it? It doesn't look like he's made a commit to it since late September. |
| 21:54.51 | dylanm | Er, like he hasn't. |
| 21:56.00 | Sole | NeoTron: how is G&H? |
| 21:56.09 | Sole | didn't it get shut down due to lack of funding? |
| 21:56.16 | dylanm | Gawd I love curse comments here. |
| 21:56.23 | dylanm | "ive been using it for years, but its out of date since the 2.3 patch" |
| 21:56.27 | NeoTron | Sole: not impressed |
| 21:56.34 | Sole | NeoTron: yeah my brother wasnt either |
| 21:56.37 | NeoTron | it felt "fake" due to certain UI elements |
| 21:56.47 | Sole | what I am impressed with is Warhammer ^_^ |
| 21:56.53 | Sole | can't wait for beta relaunch |
| 21:56.53 | NeoTron | overall I didn't get very far primarily because it was really unstable |
| 21:56.57 | dylanm | Nothing about it being broken or not taking advantage of a new feature, no. Just "I can't be arsed to check a box." |
| 21:56.58 | Sole | it actually looks fun now |
| 21:57.25 | Sole | NeoTron: the concept of the game didn't look all that interesting anyway |
| 21:57.42 | Sole | NeoTron: sort of like a TitanQuest MMO...I didnt even like TQ much |
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| 21:58.45 | NeoTron | I never got to the point where I had henchmen |
| 21:58.53 | NeoTron | that part of the game might have been interesting |
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| 22:02.37 | Sole | maybe |
| 22:02.44 | Sole | still looked sorta terribad |
| 22:05.13 | Ozguli | !points 1475 |
| 22:05.13 | Xinhuan | 1475 arena points require 2696(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 22:05.19 | Ozguli | !rating 1475 |
| 22:05.20 | Xinhuan | 1475 rating gives 338(5s), 297(3s) and 257(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:05.21 | Ozguli | damn system |
| 22:05.44 | Ozguli | need to get my teammate more epix |
| 22:05.57 | Ozguli | and make sure he wields weapons |
| 22:07.28 | Sole | what do you guys think of the name Tempus for an addon? |
| 22:07.34 | Audrina | Anyone know how to setup grid to show mana? |
| 22:07.42 | Sole | or Tractus |
| 22:09.21 | Audrina | =( |
| 22:09.29 | Sole | can it show mana? |
| 22:09.36 | Ozguli | tempus? |
| 22:09.45 | Ozguli | does it show the room temperature? |
| 22:09.49 | Sole | tempus/tractus are latin for time :P |
| 22:09.56 | Sole | according to some translator |
| 22:09.56 | Ozguli | mmh |
| 22:10.00 | Sole | bleh I dont like em |
| 22:10.04 | Sole | so I went with Klokken |
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| 22:11.39 | durcyn | Sole: tempo |
| 22:11.48 | Sole | durcyn: good one |
| 22:11.52 | Audrina | I seen a video with it showing mana rage ans energy |
| 22:12.00 | Audrina | and* |
| 22:12.10 | Sole | but do you really care about mana? |
| 22:12.15 | Sole | because I dont |
| 22:12.20 | Audrina | As an SP I do |
| 22:12.50 | Audrina | for Symbol of Hope |
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| 22:16.25 | kenlyric | gridmanabars? |
| 22:16.47 | kenlyric | those might be used to show mana in grid |
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| 22:16.55 | kenlyric | as bars |
| 22:18.25 | Audrina | Yea, thanks |
| 22:19.43 | Sole | who here is familiar with Antagonist? |
| 22:20.06 | Sole | or NECB will do as well |
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| 22:20.20 | Sole | should I include cast time tracking in antagonist2? |
| 22:20.37 | Sole | since almost every unit frame and cast bar addon handles target and focus casting now |
| 22:20.52 | Sole | Im thinking I should keep it focused to cooldowns, buffs and debuffs |
| 22:20.53 | Pkekyo| | fucksake, I -HATE- mage+mage arena setups >.< |
| 22:21.08 | Sole | they were even worse before hypothermia :( |
| 22:21.29 | dylanm | Pkekyo|: Like, facing them? |
| 22:21.32 | Pkekyo| | frost mage keeps me rooted in place, whilst pom/pyro mage nukes me down >.< |
| 22:21.41 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: I hate them in general |
| 22:21.59 | Sole | whats your team composition? |
| 22:22.26 | Pkekyo| | warr/rogue |
| 22:22.45 | Sole | well thats not the most optimal set up |
| 22:22.51 | Pkekyo| | trust me, I know |
| 22:23.00 | Sole | Ive only seen dahis and happyminti make it work |
| 22:23.04 | Sole | and those guys are awesometastic |
| 22:23.22 | Pkekyo| | it works for us...when not facing two mages or two druids |
| 22:23.28 | Sole | lol 2 druids |
| 22:23.32 | dylanm | Really? Even like healer/warlock? |
| 22:23.48 | Pkekyo| | I eat warlocks for breakfeast tbh |
| 22:23.48 | Sole | even like warlock/rogue? coz thats a bad ass set up |
| 22:24.05 | Sole | even warlocks with resilience and stam out of the ass? |
| 22:24.11 | Sole | coz those ones take a while to take out |
| 22:24.49 | Pkekyo| | Sole: I do...as long as I'm not rooted |
| 22:25.08 | Pkekyo| | Sole: resto durid + feralol is a fucking nightmare as a warrior |
| 22:25.16 | Sole | I can imagine |
| 22:25.32 | Sole | 2 of you can burst down the feralol though |
| 22:25.39 | Pkekyo| | yay! death wish + MS critted for 479 damage! |
| 22:25.48 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:25.53 | Sole | then go for the restodrood |
| 22:26.21 | Sole | pop intimidating shout to make them use trinket |
| 22:26.26 | Pkekyo| | they still heal through my bloody MS |
| 22:26.31 | Pkekyo| | it's ridiculous |
| 22:26.36 | Sole | then once one of them is < 50% have the rogue blind one and 2 of you burst the other |
| 22:27.24 | Sole | its harder to fight druids now since lvl60 |
| 22:27.35 | Sole | back then if I caught them out of baerform then he was dead |
| 22:27.35 | Pkekyo| | what I mean is.... a single resto druid can still heal through my MS and stay at full health |
| 22:27.39 | Pkekyo| | it's insane |
| 22:27.47 | Sole | whats the rogue doin then? |
| 22:28.10 | Pkekyo| | trying to kill the bloody druid as well |
| 22:28.16 | Sole | rogue should put pressure on the resto |
| 22:28.18 | Sole | although thats hard |
| 22:28.23 | Sole | because their crafty fuckers |
| 22:28.37 | kergoth | hrm, why does UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED seem to get called multiple times for a single cast? |
| 22:28.45 | Pkekyo| | Sole: indeed, that's our problem |
| 22:28.46 | Sole | that confused me too kergoth |
| 22:29.03 | Sole | Pkekyo|: gouge/kidney/intimidating shout is all I can think of :P |
| 22:29.05 | kergoth | i mutilate, it says i mutilated 3 times.. guess i'd better use SENT+SUCCEEDED |
| 22:29.09 | kergoth | silly blizzard |
| 22:29.11 | Aenslaed | does anyone know of saroz is still working on sraidframes? |
| 22:29.16 | Sole | Pkekyo|: then once the other druid is low enough a blind to seal the deal |
| 22:29.19 | Pkekyo| | Sole: that'd just mean the feralol would pop hots on him /wrist |
| 22:29.37 | Sole | you CC the other druid |
| 22:29.41 | Sole | and go for the squishier target |
| 22:29.48 | Sole | but I can see the problem |
| 22:29.56 | Sole | its just such a frustrating combo |
| 22:30.04 | Pkekyo| | if we do that, he'll just go bearform and I'll crit for a whoopin' 500dmg again |
| 22:30.08 | Sole | haha |
| 22:30.21 | Pkekyo| | that's an EXTREME downer after just popping a 5.3k execute on a mage |
| 22:30.25 | Sole | resilience + bear form armor bonus = lol wuts melee dmg? |
| 22:30.34 | JoshBorke | kergoth: did you check the unit? |
| 22:30.39 | kergoth | yep |
| 22:30.59 | Pkekyo| | christ...just prospected three stacks of adamantite and got one blue >.< |
| 22:31.07 | Pkekyo| | Sole: bear form in general = lolwuts meelee dmg |
| 22:31.08 | Sole | =[ |
| 22:31.17 | Sole | should I track cast bars in tempo? |
| 22:31.24 | Sole | seems like a waste |
| 22:31.26 | Pkekyo| | tempo? |
| 22:31.27 | dylanm | Tempo? |
| 22:31.33 | Sole | antagonist2 |
| 22:31.39 | JoshBorke | kergoth: the ONLY time it fired multiple times for me is when i had myself targetted |
| 22:31.41 | Sole | timer addon to put it simply |
| 22:32.07 | Sole | tracks cooldowns/buffs/debuffs |
| 22:32.45 | dylanm | Aenslaed: Saroz appears to be in here. |
| 22:32.58 | Industrial | DING 67 |
| 22:33.11 | Sole | grats |
| 22:33.12 | Pkekyo| | congrats indibindi |
| 22:33.16 | Pkekyo| | Industrial, even |
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| 22:33.21 | Pkekyo| | geif bettar tab-completion |
| 22:33.23 | dylanm | Very personal. |
| 22:34.34 | Sole | for cooldowns which can be affected by gear/talents I will add a 'caution zone'. For example, Psychic Scream can have a cooldown between 23 seconds and 30 seconds. The cooldown timer will be 30 seconds long, at the 23 second mark a red border (or other visual identifier) will appear around the timer indicating that the cooldown could be up now. |
| 22:35.04 | Sole | what could I use as the visual identifier besides a colored border? |
| 22:35.25 | Sole | timed alpha changes maybe? |
| 22:36.12 | khangg | whats a good rogue ar/prep spec using s1 fists? |
| 22:36.28 | Sole | use s1 maces :P |
| 22:36.32 | Sole | hang on I'll give you one |
| 22:36.52 | khangg | Sole, my friend was stupid and got the fists :S |
| 22:36.58 | Sole | -_- |
| 22:37.06 | Sole | "dude theyre FISTS thats so COOL" amirite? |
| 22:37.19 | Pkekyo| | Sole: just make the entire cation zone signal flag-orange |
| 22:37.29 | Sole | the utility of the mace stun is just amazing and it procs a lot |
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| 22:37.45 | Pkekyo| | fuck mace stun up it's filthy little arse |
| 22:37.48 | Sole | Pkekyo|: so change the color of the bar to orange? |
| 22:37.52 | Sole | says the warrior |
| 22:37.56 | Sole | skillherald :P |
| 22:38.21 | Sole | khangg: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhbEzbVt0z0oZxrfoMuRox replace mace spec with fist spec |
| 22:38.42 | Pkekyo| | Sole: noes, make the bar like this: [normal crap]ORANGECAUTIONZONE] |
| 22:38.54 | Sole | ahh |
| 22:38.59 | Pkekyo| | Sole: I hate lolherald as well :) |
| 22:39.06 | Diao | lol |
| 22:39.14 | Pkekyo| | though the catuon zone prolly should be smaller than the normal one :p |
| 22:39.27 | Diao | mace spec isn't that bad on warrs :( |
| 22:39.37 | Sole | Pkekyo|: yeah :P |
| 22:39.40 | Diao | swordspec is much more deadly to me |
| 22:40.56 | Pkekyo| | roflcopter...I just owned a feralol that ambushed me whilst alt+tabbed to irc :p |
| 22:40.58 | NivFreak | mace spec is awesome |
| 22:41.03 | NivFreak | I kill sword spec warriors |
| 22:41.13 | Pkekyo| | I was at 60% hp when I got back ingame |
| 22:41.15 | NivFreak | when I was axe spec, they killed me |
| 22:41.30 | Diao | i got raped by a swordspec gladiator |
| 22:41.31 | Diao | in 2v2 |
| 22:41.41 | Sole | for a rogue mace spec is just awesome |
| 22:41.47 | Diao | he had the same armor as me, but was using cataclysm's edge + madness of the betrayer |
| 22:41.52 | Diao | all that armor ignore = pain |
| 22:42.00 | Sole | mace spec proc followed be a 5pt kidney shot must be annoying |
| 22:42.12 | jwwpua | are there any arena frames that you can click to perform different functions? such as left click = target, right click = purge, middle click = shock, etc ? |
| 22:42.21 | Sole | jwwpua: gladiator |
| 22:42.38 | jwwpua | Sole: nice, is that functionality built-in? |
| 22:42.47 | Sole | jwwpua: yes |
| 22:42.57 | Sole | jwwpua: I dont think I added a middle click though, just left adn right |
| 22:43.09 | Pkekyo| | hmm...why is it horde ALWAYS win AV, whilst they can NEVER win anything else? >.< |
| 22:43.15 | jwwpua | Sole: are you still developing it? |
| 22:43.17 | Sole | dunno, dont care |
| 22:43.21 | Sole | jwwpua: not at the moment |
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| 22:43.35 | jwwpua | Sole: would adding middle-click be a lot of work? :) |
| 22:43.59 | Sole | jwwpua: the only real annoying thing I remember is the "smooth" bar value would sometimes jump from like 70% to 0.7% and I couldnt find where I screwed up the maths...not that I really looked |
| 22:44.03 | Sole | jwwpua: not sure |
| 22:45.25 | Sole | jwwpua: I only added it so I could target/set focus with left click and blind with right click :) |
| 22:45.53 | Kuja^ | Kemayo: ping, got that, no clue why http://ace.pastey.net/78548 tho i left open the translation in libbabblecreaturetype-3.0 since its just Humanoid like it is in english... but why does it error in deDE then? |
| 22:45.56 | Sole | jwwpua: but the spell cast can be anything since gladiator just runs a macro with a given spell name |
| 22:46.42 | jwwpua | Sole: ok cool i'll try it out |
| 22:48.44 | Sole | jwwpua: if you have any suggestions feel free to let me know. I'm just waiting on 2.4 to hit the PTR to start Cockfight (v2 of glad) |
| 22:50.45 | NivFreak | I went from gladiator to proximo |
| 22:50.50 | jwwpua | Sole: aight sure thing. honestly I think it'd be really helpful for utility classes if you could use left/right/middle and SHIFT combinations. as a shaman, L/R/M would be fine, i gotta be quick when im told "purge the mage" or whatever, or "interrupt paly" |
| 22:51.12 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:51.17 | NivFreak | that's my complaint about proximo too |
| 22:51.19 | NivFreak | 2 clicks is nice |
| 22:51.21 | NivFreak | but I need like 5 |
| 22:51.24 | jwwpua | haha |
| 22:51.33 | jwwpua | what class? |
| 22:51.34 | NivFreak | I use left click to target, right click to focus |
| 22:51.40 | NivFreak | for my priest |
| 22:51.56 | NivFreak | I want a key to /cast [target=targettarget,help] Power Word: Shield |
| 22:52.05 | NivFreak | I want a key to click to mana burn (currently use focus for it) |
| 22:52.18 | NivFreak | so at least 4 ;) |
| 22:52.34 | jwwpua | for shield, wouldn't that be clicking on your own teams unitframes? |
| 22:52.43 | jwwpua | I think Clique will do that |
| 22:52.45 | NivFreak | I use it to screw with warriors |
| 22:52.46 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:52.48 | jwwpua | ohh |
| 22:52.55 | jwwpua | i see now :P |
| 22:52.56 | NivFreak | it's a fun tactic |
| 22:53.04 | NivFreak | my main is a warrior |
| 22:53.09 | jwwpua | my warrior HATES shield |
| 22:53.11 | NivFreak | so it's a special kind of horror for me |
| 22:53.12 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:53.24 | jwwpua | "this is freaking gay, i can't build any rage!!" lol |
| 22:53.32 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:53.35 | NivFreak | it's funny though |
| 22:53.44 | jwwpua | what's the difference with proximo/gladiator? |
| 22:53.48 | NivFreak | warriors seem to kill my priest much faster than my warrior kills priests |
| 22:53.55 | NivFreak | then again, my priest is pretty scrubby |
| 22:54.11 | NivFreak | well, gladiator didn't have the click abilities when I switched |
| 22:54.17 | NivFreak | and assist highlighting |
| 22:54.41 | NivFreak | and some of my team mates were insistent on proximo, and gladiator wasn't picking up thier targets |
| 22:55.07 | NivFreak | I liked gladiator's integration with tattle a lot |
| 22:55.15 | NivFreak | although the tattle dbs have been a bit slow in being updated lately |
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| 22:56.50 | Diao | ss arena frames |
| 22:56.53 | Diao | lets you bind up to 10 different keys |
| 22:56.54 | Diao | to macros |
| 22:56.58 | NivFreak | it's ace? |
| 22:57.02 | Diao | no |
| 22:57.06 | Diao | but it's amazing still |
| 22:57.07 | NivFreak | nm then :) |
| 22:57.14 | Diao | and integrates with all other frames addons :P |
| 22:57.15 | NivFreak | I'm way too spoiled by ace addons |
| 22:57.18 | Diao | lol |
| 22:57.22 | Diao | i just use svn to update it |
| 22:57.23 | NivFreak | I run JWU |
| 22:57.26 | NivFreak | and then play |
| 22:57.41 | CIA-2 | 03alar * r56625 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 22:57.41 | CIA-2 | !AlarLib |
| 22:57.41 | CIA-2 | Fixed texture loading for resizer |
| 22:57.56 | NivFreak | where's it hosted? |
| 22:58.03 | Diao | google code |
| 22:58.04 | Sole | NivFreak: gladiator does have click abilities...that was in before proximo was even released o_O |
| 22:58.05 | Diao | and wowi |
| 22:58.14 | NivFreak | Sole: hrmm, maybe I missed it |
| 22:58.46 | NivFreak | I didn't dislike it |
| 22:58.50 | NivFreak | don't get me wrong |
| 22:59.02 | NivFreak | the tattle stuff is really great |
| 22:59.13 | Sole | I found it useless |
| 22:59.23 | Sole | changes too quickly for the updates to keep up |
| 22:59.23 | NivFreak | I want targettarget for the frames though :) |
| 22:59.30 | NivFreak | Sole: it's a good guide |
| 22:59.50 | CIA-2 | 03alar * r56626 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): |
| 22:59.50 | CIA-2 | AlarBGHelper |
| 22:59.50 | CIA-2 | 3.1.0 |
| 22:59.50 | CIA-2 | Feature: AV Boss status is back |
| 22:59.50 | CIA-2 | Feature: Revamped panels. More intuitive and less invasive move/resize interface |
| 23:00.01 | Sole | targettarget? |
| 23:00.10 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:00.14 | NivFreak | I just want to see thier targets |
| 23:00.19 | Sole | meaning the target of the arena opponents |
| 23:00.22 | Sole | yeah I get ya |
| 23:00.23 | NivFreak | correct |
| 23:00.32 | NivFreak | I get it indirectly through aggro indicators in healbot |
| 23:00.43 | NivFreak | but it'd be amazing if I had it in my arena frames |
| 23:00.50 | NivFreak | especially from a CC standpoint |
| 23:00.58 | Sole | yeah - they could be a bit inaccurate though |
| 23:01.03 | NivFreak | he targeted the healer! cyclone! |
| 23:01.08 | Sole | Im definately adding timers for important spells to it |
| 23:01.22 | Sole | like divine shield/freedom and CC cast times |
| 23:01.27 | NivFreak | yea, I'm not sure how the aggro indicators work |
| 23:01.34 | Sole | just gotta come up with a non-intrusive integration |
| 23:02.51 | NivFreak | yea, having BoF and such indicated somehow would be great |
| 23:03.02 | NivFreak | and iceblock/DS |
| 23:03.09 | NivFreak | in fact |
| 23:03.11 | NivFreak | as a priest |
| 23:03.20 | NivFreak | if the entire frame went red when they got a buff I could mass dispell |
| 23:03.23 | NivFreak | it would be hot |
| 23:03.30 | Sole | yeah Ive the ice block cooldown idea in gladiator comments for months, just havent done it |
| 23:03.49 | Diao | lol |
| 23:03.59 | NivFreak | you could almost imagine thier frame being yellow if thier timer was up, red if the ability was active |
| 23:04.12 | NivFreak | or something of the sort |
| 23:04.13 | kaiden | bleh, need a new ui, caiths is getting to me |
| 23:04.17 | kaiden | making me scream :P |
| 23:04.37 | Sole | Im thinking of straying away from the compacted display of gladiator and proximo |
| 23:04.46 | Sole | and possibly splitting each arena opponent into their own box |
| 23:04.49 | Diao | you should be able to predict when ib/ds will occur though |
| 23:04.54 | NivFreak | Sole: I'd prefer that |
| 23:05.13 | NivFreak | Diao: sure, but having a visual indicator saves time |
| 23:05.18 | Diao | i mean |
| 23:05.22 | Diao | the priest i arena with in 3s |
| 23:05.27 | Diao | is so amazing at predicting ib/ds |
| 23:05.33 | Diao | that he'll MD before the graphic appears on my screen |
| 23:05.43 | Diao | and all i'll see is that the mage/pally have hypothermia/forbearance |
| 23:05.47 | NivFreak | I'm not that good |
| 23:05.48 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:05.53 | Diao | without the immunity ever popping up lol |
| 23:05.55 | Diao | i'm just like "WTF" |
| 23:06.20 | NivFreak | mass dispell is so expensive that I'm reluctant to use it |
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| 23:06.49 | Diao | do you have the improved talents for it? |
| 23:07.42 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:07.45 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:07.50 | NivFreak | nm |
| 23:07.53 | NivFreak | I think I have 1 pt |
| 23:07.56 | Diao | lol |
| 23:08.12 | Diao | 3/3 absolution and 2/2 focused power :o |
| 23:08.40 | NivFreak | I'm trying to remember |
| 23:08.47 | NivFreak | I was thiking imp mana burn |
| 23:08.59 | NivFreak | armory is dead of course |
| 23:09.06 | Diao | lol |
| 23:09.24 | Diao | 15% mana cost reduction, 4% bonus chance to hit, 1 sec off the cast time |
| 23:09.25 | CIA-2 | 03joshborke 07Ace3 * r56627 10RaidCast/RaidCast_Config.lua: RaidCast: added RaidCast_Config.lua |
| 23:09.38 | NivFreak | yea, I just don't remember |
| 23:09.45 | NivFreak | I've tweaked my spec a few times |
| 23:09.48 | NivFreak | trying new things |
| 23:10.31 | CIA-2 | 03kemayo * r56628 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Get an unstrict Babble-CreatureType lookup table, to avoid warnings about the various gaps. |
| 23:12.01 | Kemayo | Kuja^: I think that should help. |
| 23:12.30 | Diao | someone broke bosswhisperer |
| 23:12.46 | Diao | vharr or cronan :( |
| 23:14.06 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/78550 |
| 23:15.15 | Diao | no idea what that line 166 is doing there |
| 23:15.18 | Diao | it's like completely random |
| 23:17.54 | Sole | whoa |
| 23:18.03 | Sole | Shadowd says we can inspect the opposite faction :O |
| 23:18.15 | Sole | I might have to work in integration for Rememberance then :) |
| 23:20.28 | sb | yes talent inspect works cross faction |
| 23:20.44 | sb | and it works with examiner |
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| 23:21.56 | Sole | hmm |
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| 23:23.08 | SaisGwaith | 6 |
| 23:23.22 | sb | 7 |
| 23:24.14 | SaisGwaith | heh |
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| 23:34.47 | Gnarfoz | Vashj Tainted Elementals |
| 23:35.08 | Gnarfoz | the DoT they use. is it poison? magic? nothing? is it dispellable? |
| 23:35.30 | dylanm | Vash needs to stop using secure funcs in combat |
| 23:35.30 | sb | poison |
| 23:35.33 | sb | dispellable |
| 23:38.18 | Gnarfoz | dylanm: like? :D |
| 23:38.29 | dylanm | IT WAS A JOKE ABOUT TAINTING |
| 23:38.37 | Gnarfoz | y :( |
| 23:38.44 | dylanm | I don't know. Demons. |
| 23:40.14 | NivFreak | can you see opposite faction's gear too? |
| 23:40.20 | kaiden | no |
| 23:40.26 | kaiden | only talent specs |
| 23:41.47 | Gnarfoz | which is likely to get fixed some time, too |
| 23:44.08 | NivFreak | you don't think it was intentional? |
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| 23:47.00 | Xuerian | It gives you a slight advantage in BGs if you know what someone is going to do |
| 23:47.04 | Xuerian | Or can do |
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| 23:48.21 | Aenslaed | hardly matters in BGs. Since it is all objective based, positioning and coordination means more than what the opponent can do within a spec. |
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| 23:53.23 | bigzero | idk if anyone caught my message about DewDrop yesterday, so here it goes again... It seems that DewDrop does not set the parent for the dropdown frame, so if the parent frame gets hidden, the dewdrop will still be visible. Not sure if it was intentionally left that way. |
| 23:54.32 | Gnarfoz | Aenslaed: arena... it's quite interesting to know if that mage over there can use Ice Block (not an issue for much longer, but you get the idea) |
| 23:54.48 | bigzero | adding frame:SetParent( (type(parent) == "table" and parent) or UIParent) under line 2749 seems to fix this, but I didn't want to submit that myself, since I'm not certain that it really is abug in the first place |
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| 23:57.41 | CIA-2 | JewelTips: |
| 23:57.41 | CIA-2 | - Fix error: Attempt to perform arithmetic on field "BUTTON_OFFSETY" (a nil value) |
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