| 00:00.10 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Did you link me to a item wishlist program/addon earlier? If so, need relink, history decided to clear |
| 00:00.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:00.57 | Xuerian | blah, who was it |
| 00:01.05 | Xuerian | Azurewrath: You? ^ |
| 00:01.11 | Arrowmaster | ive been playing mass effect for like 20 hours |
| 00:01.16 | Xuerian | damn you. |
| 00:01.58 | Arrowmaster | its fun, although not as good as those original videos made it look like |
| 00:02.25 | Xuerian | Bah =\ |
| 00:03.39 | Xinhuan | how good is the game? |
| 00:06.09 | CIA-8 | 03scorpion * r56199 10Cryolysis2/Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 00:06.09 | CIA-8 | Cryolysis2: |
| 00:06.09 | CIA-8 | - update zhCN localization |
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| 00:10.08 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg161918#msg161918 |
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| 00:12.38 | RaydenUni | man |
| 00:12.42 | RaydenUni | that was a good game of EOTS |
| 00:12.47 | RaydenUni | neck and neck till about 600 |
| 00:12.55 | RaydenUni | alliance was even winning a bit |
| 00:13.02 | RaydenUni | then we just started capping flags like nobody's business |
| 00:13.13 | RaydenUni | won something like 2000-900 |
| 00:14.59 | kergoth | Xyphor: feature request time, actually played with powerdisplay. the options have a few quirks, looks like its defaulting to center but doesnt show the current setting as center when you go into the options (alignment). should let the user drag it around and automatically anchor to the appropriate part of the screen based on what quadrant you're in, instead of using manually inputted stuff. but thats minor, the main thing is to add more lin |
| 00:14.59 | kergoth | es. as a rogue, i'd want AP, then main hand and offhand speeds, both. 3 lines, but it can't do that currently. so maybe just let the user choose how many lines they want, then have an option for format to show the big number and text below, or side by side, for each line, or something.. i dunno |
| 00:15.25 | kergoth | Xyphor: also, choose mana regeneration for line 2, then mess with the alignments. regeneration is cut off, "Mana Regener..", like the frame width isnt big enough |
| 00:15.59 | kergoth | Xyphor: another minor one, i'd advise setting the default profile to the class or char rather than default, since its unlikely you'd want the same stuff displayed for two different classes |
| 00:16.13 | Xyphor | kergoth: please update now... :p |
| 00:16.17 | kergoth | but seems nice so far |
| 00:16.38 | kergoth | ah, okay :) |
| 00:16.53 | Xyphor | kergoth: frame is dragable, mana regen renamed to MP5 |
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| 00:17.00 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:17.06 | kergoth | nice addon, i like it so far |
| 00:17.13 | NeoTron | so I heard of a funny trick on archimonde |
| 00:17.18 | Xyphor | and I think the stuff to display is saved per char already btw |
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| 00:17.35 | NeoTron | if he gets a soul charge it's possibly, but tricky, to push it off him by having everyone that can put up a debuff put one up |
| 00:18.01 | kergoth | Xyphor: it wasnt here. it was set to a profile of "Default" by default |
| 00:18.10 | kergoth | unless its fixed in the latest commit, updating now |
| 00:19.41 | Xyphor | kergoth: working on another line |
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| 00:20.31 | kergoth | cool :) |
| 00:20.40 | Xyphor | kergoth: offhand didn't give error for you? |
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| 00:33.26 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r56200 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Gurtogg.lua Najentus.lua Supremus.lua Teron.lua): BigWigs: deDE Update |
| 00:37.14 | Stanzilla | bah |
| 00:37.20 | Stanzilla | AtlasLoot is broken |
| 00:38.11 | Xinhuan | [11/29 08:35:29] <Arcaia> http://wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames |
| 00:38.12 | Xinhuan | [11/29 08:35:35] <Arcaia> someone has sabotaged the screenshot |
| 00:46.51 | RaydenUni | which BG rewards most honor? |
| 00:46.52 | RaydenUni | AV? |
| 00:47.42 | Xinhuan | generally yes |
| 00:48.35 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 00:48.40 | RaydenUni | honor farming services |
| 00:48.55 | RaydenUni | so you get 1 point her HK? |
| 00:49.37 | Xinhuan | depends on how many people are near you |
| 00:50.26 | RaydenUni | less honor if more people are around you? |
| 00:50.48 | Xinhuan | honor is divided by the proportion of damage done to kill the target, if ungrouped. |
| 00:51.09 | Xinhuan | if you are grouped, then its divided equally by proportion to the different groups that damage it |
| 00:51.15 | Xinhuan | and divided equally within the group |
| 00:52.06 | kaiden | LOL Xinhuan!!!! |
| 00:52.34 | Xinhuan | sadly, it is how the system works ;p |
| 00:53.13 | Xinhuan | a person of equal level with you is worth 20 honor |
| 00:53.23 | Antiar1 | http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/Dalaigon/WoWScrnShot_112807_155846.jpg <-- rofl. Owned. |
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| 00:53.50 | Xinhuan | if your group deals 60% damage to kill it, your group gets 12 honor divided equally by all the people in range of the kill (some 50 yards) |
| 00:53.56 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 00:53.57 | RaydenUni | that's odd |
| 00:54.10 | Xinhuan | note they round up numbers |
| 00:54.27 | Xinhuan | so 0.2 honor is 1 honor for estimation purposes |
| 00:54.31 | RaydenUni | yeah, it means if i'm running around with my 19 druid rooting people i'm not actually getting much honor |
| 00:54.39 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 00:54.42 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 00:54.54 | Xinhuan | unless you're partied |
| 00:55.54 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: is that really true? |
| 00:56.06 | NivFreak | if I'm alone in AV, and kill someone, I get a notification that I was awarded 20 honor |
| 00:56.19 | NivFreak | aside from diminishing returns, I wouldn't expect that to be split amongst my group |
| 00:56.37 | Xinhuan | that is correct, because nobody else is within killing range (50 yards) of you when you killed him |
| 00:56.56 | NivFreak | ok, so it's anyone within range in you rgroup |
| 00:56.59 | NivFreak | your group |
| 00:57.00 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:57.04 | NivFreak | thought so |
| 00:57.10 | Xinhuan | also every kill is affected by diminishing returns |
| 00:57.13 | NivFreak | I always love killing someone by myself |
| 00:57.15 | NivFreak | for a full 20 honor |
| 00:57.20 | NivFreak | yep |
| 00:57.22 | Xinhuan | first kill you get 100%, second kill you get 90% then 80%... |
| 00:57.27 | Xinhuan | 10th kill you get 10% |
| 00:57.36 | Xinhuan | and 11th or more you get no honor |
| 00:57.36 | NivFreak | I though it was /2 each time |
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| 00:57.42 | NivFreak | thought |
| 00:57.49 | Xinhuan | it was changed from 100/75/50/25/0 to 100/90/80.../10/0 |
| 00:57.54 | Xinhuan | since 1.5 years ago |
| 00:57.57 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:57.59 | Xinhuan | about patch 1.8 or so |
| 00:58.06 | NivFreak | I never really pay attention |
| 00:58.11 | NivFreak | most of my honor is bonus honor |
| 00:58.26 | NivFreak | the DRs hurt enough from HKs that it's not worth farming them usually |
| 00:58.37 | NivFreak | since the same 10 people are always your pray |
| 00:58.40 | NivFreak | prey |
| 00:58.41 | Xinhuan | the estimation in your honor pane takes into account everything except diminishing returns |
| 00:58.47 | NivFreak | right |
| 00:58.50 | Xinhuan | hence honorfu was really good |
| 00:58.52 | NivFreak | which is why I just use honorfu |
| 00:58.54 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:59.03 | Xinhuan | since it tracks every kill, to determine the diminishing ones |
| 00:59.11 | NivFreak | It's lame that blizzard doesn't track DRs |
| 00:59.18 | Xinhuan | it was able to always come within 1k honor to the actual values gained |
| 00:59.19 | NivFreak | it would be so much simpler on thier end |
| 00:59.29 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 00:59.32 | NivFreak | and having the game crash wouldn't cause your honor estimates to be inaccurate |
| 00:59.39 | Xinhuan | because diminishing returns is different for every person |
| 00:59.48 | Xinhuan | if i'm partied with you and we both kill someone |
| 00:59.58 | Xinhuan | i may have already killed him 6 times earlier |
| 01:00.01 | Xinhuan | and you 0 times |
| 01:00.12 | Xinhuan | so if the kill gave us 20 honor, split evenly is 10/10 |
| 01:00.12 | NivFreak | so you think they simply keep a transaction log of every kill? |
| 01:00.16 | NivFreak | and parse it at 1:30am? |
| 01:00.19 | Xinhuan | but you'll get 10 honor, and i'll only get 4 honor |
| 01:00.27 | Xinhuan | that is indeed what they do NivFreak |
| 01:00.30 | NivFreak | then calc DRs |
| 01:00.35 | NivFreak | I guess it makes sense |
| 01:00.40 | Xinhuan | which is why the server lags for 2 minutes everyday at the same time |
| 01:00.43 | Xinhuan | to do that calculation |
| 01:00.45 | NivFreak | crunch that on a different resource nightly |
| 01:00.48 | NivFreak | hah |
| 01:01.04 | NivFreak | it's always thier database |
| 01:01.06 | Xinhuan | my server always lags 2 minutes at 5.41pm everyday (which is 8.41pm in australia) |
| 01:01.11 | Xinhuan | it kills raids |
| 01:01.16 | Xinhuan | we always wait around for it before a pull |
| 01:01.27 | NivFreak | ours runs 1:30am server time |
| 01:01.34 | NivFreak | (PST) |
| 01:01.37 | NivFreak | so usually it's ok |
| 01:01.45 | Xinhuan | 1.41 am server time == 5.41pm my time |
| 01:01.46 | NivFreak | usually done with raids by then |
| 01:01.48 | NivFreak | and doing arenas |
| 01:01.56 | Xinhuan | 80% of my server is aussie |
| 01:01.59 | Diao | honor updates are done from 1:30-2am server time |
| 01:02.03 | Diao | depending on which server you're on |
| 01:02.04 | Diao | lol |
| 01:02.13 | NivFreak | don't they have aussie servers? |
| 01:02.18 | Diao | :( |
| 01:02.21 | Xinhuan | not in the first year of operation |
| 01:02.27 | Xinhuan | of launch |
| 01:02.28 | NivFreak | ah, so that's why |
| 01:02.39 | NivFreak | I always wondered why there were aussies logged on US servers |
| 01:02.57 | Ellipsis | it's not like it matters, even the oceanic servers are hosted in the US |
| 01:03.03 | NivFreak | sure |
| 01:03.04 | Xinhuan | not only so, the DVD booklet/brochure from Blizzard officially recognizes my server (a US server) as an australian one |
| 01:03.07 | Ellipsis | they don't get any real advantage from using them |
| 01:03.12 | NivFreak | but blizzard has thier wierd international use rules |
| 01:03.18 | Xinhuan | even though our server is NOT marked oceanic |
| 01:03.53 | NivFreak | doesn't blizzard ban US accounts if they are played from europe/ |
| 01:03.58 | NivFreak | and asia |
| 01:03.59 | NivFreak | etc |
| 01:04.05 | Diao | no |
| 01:04.10 | Ellipsis | no |
| 01:04.21 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 01:04.21 | NivFreak | but that's thier policy, right? |
| 01:04.22 | CIA-8 | 03grennon * r56201 10/branches/Postal/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Postal: branch for postal 3.0, with modules as options |
| 01:04.22 | Ellipsis | their rules say you can't, but I've never heard of that being enforced |
| 01:04.37 | Xinhuan | they merely make it difficult for you |
| 01:04.41 | Xinhuan | but its doable |
| 01:04.44 | Xinhuan | and allowed |
| 01:04.50 | NivFreak | I always assume that powerleveling farmers used some sort of proxy to come from a US IP |
| 01:04.53 | NivFreak | to avoid bans |
| 01:04.56 | grennon | Xinhuan: so like, i finally branched that stuff |
| 01:04.58 | Xinhuan | like when you register a US account on the US servers |
| 01:05.06 | Xinhuan | you need to enter your address right? |
| 01:05.08 | Ellipsis | they probably do, NivFreak, but more for the IP banning than being out of the country |
| 01:05.18 | Xinhuan | they check that the address is a US/Aus/Singapore/etc address |
| 01:05.30 | Xinhuan | so if you live in Germany, you would need to fake a US address |
| 01:05.39 | NivFreak | ah |
| 01:05.49 | Xinhuan | since the country dropdown options don't include Germany |
| 01:05.53 | NivFreak | I always assumed they did play time validation |
| 01:05.57 | Wobin_ | orly? |
| 01:06.01 | Xinhuan | other than that, they don't do much validation |
| 01:06.12 | Wobin_ | I just thought they didn't 'support' out of US/Oceania connections |
| 01:06.29 | Xinhuan | nah, they do want to splitup the world |
| 01:06.29 | Wobin_ | Cause fuck them if I'm in a different country and want to play on my servers |
| 01:06.34 | NivFreak | It would be pretty simple to write code to detect account sharing and the like |
| 01:06.38 | NivFreak | farmers etc |
| 01:06.48 | NivFreak | I assume they don't do it since it makes them money |
| 01:06.49 | Xinhuan | from blizzard's point of view, if i'm maintaining US servers, why would i entertain a call from germany if that guy's account got hacked? |
| 01:06.56 | Xinhuan | sure, they will do it, but its just more difficult |
| 01:06.58 | Wobin_ | Xinhuan: That's it precisely |
| 01:07.08 | Wobin_ | You can play from there, but I'm not going to support you if you have problems |
| 01:07.11 | Xinhuan | for both sides |
| 01:07.20 | Wobin_ | that's fine |
| 01:07.48 | Xinhuan | many europeans do play on US servers btw |
| 01:07.51 | Wobin_ | If they ban other countries completely, they'd have anyone who's in the military er... up in arms =P |
| 01:07.52 | Xinhuan | since US launched 3 months earlier |
| 01:09.00 | grennon | Xinhuan: ive been using prat/bigwigs as examples for building the aceoptions for postal3, im not convinved im doing it right though yet |
| 01:09.13 | Xinhuan | what works, what doesn't work, grennon? |
| 01:09.32 | grennon | Xinhuan: i think maybe each module should add the option to disable/enable itself versus having the main postal.lua have the data already |
| 01:09.55 | Xinhuan | don't think that's a good idea |
| 01:10.09 | Xinhuan | a module cannot enable itself, something else has to enable a module |
| 01:10.19 | grennon | Xinhuan: im new to working with aceoptions tables as command line opts/etc though, im trying to learn through osmosis |
| 01:10.30 | Xinhuan | but that's not answering the question |
| 01:10.39 | Xinhuan | i asked what is working, and what is currently not working in your code |
| 01:12.03 | grennon | no functionality is broken, but trying to toggle the modules via the cli isnt working |
| 01:12.17 | grennon | but im sure ill figure that out soonish, i havent looked at it since last night |
| 01:13.03 | Xinhuan | probably just a wrong function call |
| 01:13.06 | grennon | after reading bigwigs though, i think my design is wrong |
| 01:13.10 | Xinhuan | i'll look at your email again |
| 01:13.18 | grennon | or just check out the branch |
| 01:14.00 | Xinhuan | hmm you sent me a 233 bytes Postal.foo that doesn't mean anything |
| 01:14.22 | starlon | keylogger |
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| 01:14.59 | Xinhuan | btw |
| 01:15.02 | grennon | thats a renamed zip file since gmail wont send those |
| 01:15.04 | Xinhuan | checking cartographer, it uses |
| 01:15.05 | Xinhuan | get = function() return Cartographer:IsModuleActive(self) end, |
| 01:15.05 | Xinhuan | set = function() Cartographer:ToggleModuleActive(self) end |
| 01:15.07 | grennon | and its not 233 bytes |
| 01:15.13 | Xinhuan | you should do that i suppose |
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| 01:16.05 | grennon | and add a setting to make it persistent |
| 01:16.24 | grennon | i probably need to have it disable modules marked false onenable as well |
| 01:16.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 01:17.23 | RaydenUni | AV confuses me |
| 01:17.32 | RaydenUni | we ran around killing some NPC's and then the other team won |
| 01:17.38 | RaydenUni | took like 10 min |
| 01:17.58 | Xinhuan | whoa, my email says "Friendster now in Spanish!" (who cares?) |
| 01:18.20 | Wobin_ | The spanish? |
| 01:18.46 | grennon | social networks are like bars, they are where horny singles hook up, except in a bar you actually see what they really look like now and not 10 years ago |
| 01:19.17 | Xinhuan | .. i checked my ingame wow mail |
| 01:19.27 | grennon | damn |
| 01:19.40 | Wobin_ | and it told you Friendster was now in spanish? |
| 01:19.40 | Xinhuan | and i see a mail from some random called "Wigladon" with the text "Thanks! i'm very happy as affliction" with 20g attached |
| 01:19.59 | Wobin_ | omg |
| 01:20.03 | Wobin_ | it must be a keylogger =) |
| 01:20.24 | starlon | yep |
| 01:21.08 | grennon | Xinhuan: hopefully ill get some good work done on branch after i get done raiding tonight |
| 01:21.08 | Wobin_ | hm, I should totally do a Nigerian scam ingame: "Hello, My name is Taurae Hoofhop, wife to an affluent hordie who wishes to move to the alliance..." |
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| 01:21.21 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 01:23.27 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56202 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Teron: Wipe checking |
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| 01:24.51 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`, how does bigwigs know if a wipe occured and it should reset itself for the encounter? |
| 01:25.25 | Funkeh` | checks if the boss is targetable and in combat |
| 01:26.07 | Xinhuan | the dragonhawk boss doesn't reset correctly i think |
| 01:26.10 | Xinhuan | in ZA |
| 01:26.29 | Funkeh` | Are you doing something funky? |
| 01:26.39 | Xinhuan | it continues to show "enrage in X" warnings even when not in combat and boss is targetted at 100% |
| 01:26.43 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: there's a typo in the german translation of Gurtogg, line 104 |
| 01:26.52 | Arrowmaster | does the module even have wipe checks enabled? |
| 01:26.55 | Stanzilla | Sideblut => Siedeblut |
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| 01:27.09 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56203 10AtlasLoot/Constants/ (5 files): |
| 01:27.09 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:27.09 | CIA-8 | - Removed the lines now used in babble |
| 01:27.20 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, did you have the latest version? |
| 01:27.27 | Xinhuan | was 2 days old |
| 01:27.27 | Funkeh` | I only added it a few days ago |
| 01:27.28 | grennon | sidebutt? is that like frontbutt? |
| 01:27.40 | Stanzilla | blut not butt :p |
| 01:27.41 | Xinhuan | since my last za was 2 days ago |
| 01:27.45 | Stanzilla | Blut = blood |
| 01:27.47 | Xinhuan | but yes, i update it daily |
| 01:27.53 | grennon | sidebutt has to be truly heinous |
| 01:28.38 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56204 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: Fix deDE typo |
| 01:29.04 | Stanzilla | thx :) |
| 01:30.05 | Xinhuan | Funkeh` the other thing i wasnted to suggest was monitoring your target, if you detect a certain mob in a certain wave in Hyjal, the Hyjal trash waves should be able to deduce which boss it is |
| 01:30.23 | Xinhuan | for eg, if i targetted a banshee, and i'm in the alliance base, then the next boss must be anetheron |
| 01:30.43 | Xinhuan | since rage winterchill waves doesn't have banshees |
| 01:30.49 | vithos1 | bah, just bought a bunch of stuff off the AH i don't need because Baggins_AnywhereBags lied to me :( |
| 01:30.51 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, I'm making a change so that the next boss is known even after a dc /ui reload |
| 01:31.04 | Xinhuan | similarly for Infernals in the horde base |
| 01:31.17 | Funkeh` | It already changes the next boss on death |
| 01:31.23 | Funkeh` | but doesn't help if you dc mid way |
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| 01:31.39 | Funkeh` | gonna update the boss on wave change |
| 01:31.54 | Xinhuan | so even if a non-bigwigs user starts the event |
| 01:32.02 | Xinhuan | it'll deduce this correctly ? |
| 01:32.14 | Funkeh` | For everything but the first boss |
| 01:32.43 | Xinhuan | the first boss is only detectable by seeing "crypt fiends" on wave 2 |
| 01:33.37 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 01:34.01 | Xinhuan | and the minimap says Alliance base of course |
| 01:34.52 | Xinhuan | if you see abominations on wave 2, it will be anetheron |
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| 01:37.22 | Xinhuan | so pretty much, just need a mouseover check to be enabled on wave 2, and disabled after wave 2 for detecting units |
| 01:37.59 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:38.06 | Diao | atlasloot doesn't have the new vindicator's stuff :( |
| 01:38.59 | Stanzilla | atlasloot is br0ken atm |
| 01:39.18 | Diao | works fine for me |
| 01:39.21 | Diao | just missing a few translations |
| 01:39.44 | Stanzilla | that and something with DewDrop |
| 01:39.45 | NivFreak | does anyone in here maintain tattle? |
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| 01:48.19 | rubik | hrmm.. someone broke Ace2/AceLocale |
| 01:48.44 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 01:49.04 | rubik | haha.. n/m.. AtlasLoot error |
| 01:49.10 | rubik | i shall lrn2read error msgs |
| 01:49.19 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56205 10Baggins_Search/Baggins_Search.toc: Baggins_Search:update Toc 20300 |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56206 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | - fall back to old scanning code to prevent a rare bug |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | - change sync so old people to screw us |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | - broadcast next boss on wave change incase people disconnect during the encounter. |
| 01:50.24 | CIA-8 | - typo anatheron > anetheron |
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| 01:55.04 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56207 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Baggins_AnywhereBags.toc: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - update TOC 20300 |
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| 01:56.51 | Silowyi | so |
| 01:57.10 | Silowyi | today I committed about 300 kb worth of diffs to our primary product |
| 01:57.13 | Silowyi | :D |
| 01:57.19 | Silowyi | tomorrow should be fun |
| 01:57.29 | CIA-8 | 03siz * r56208 10FuBar_AmmoFu/embeds.xml: |
| 01:57.29 | CIA-8 | FuBar_AmmoFu: |
| 01:57.29 | CIA-8 | - Add embeds.xml to the SVN |
| 01:57.38 | Xinhuan | let me guess, it was just a 300kb jpg file :D |
| 01:57.40 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56209 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: |
| 01:57.40 | CIA-8 | cyCircled: |
| 01:57.40 | CIA-8 | - update zhtw note |
| 01:57.54 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: source diffs :P |
| 01:57.59 | Xinhuan | :( |
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| 01:58.08 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: That's not even counting the changes to the database that drives the product. |
| 01:58.28 | Xinhuan | why so much in 1 commit |
| 01:58.56 | Silowyi | Well it goes like this |
| 01:59.03 | Silowyi | you make one relatively small change |
| 01:59.04 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56210 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: Leave sync typo for backwards compat, just now. |
| 01:59.15 | Silowyi | while that's in testing, a few more changes |
| 01:59.55 | Silowyi | then some new feature needs to be added, that the new change makes possible, but you can't commit the new change yet, cause your coworker has to fix some of his code to work with it... |
| 02:00.14 | Silowyi | then your boss invents a ZOMG PROJECT MUST BE DONE TODAY for something else... |
| 02:00.17 | Silowyi | anyway |
| 02:00.36 | Silowyi | before you know it you've got a mountain of code that can't be committed cause it all depends on one small change that isn't ready yet. |
| 02:01.04 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56211 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - update zhTW Note |
| 02:01.11 | Xinhuan | i would just have commited it with the changes commented out ;p |
| 02:01.17 | Silowyi | but specifically, in this case it was a change to our Security API for the project |
| 02:01.33 | Xinhuan | so when its time to actually implement it, delete old, uncomment new! |
| 02:01.59 | Silowyi | so most of the changes were along the lines of one-line method call argument changes. |
| 02:02.34 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56212 10Baggins/Baggins.toc: Baggins: update zhTW Note |
| 02:02.48 | Silowyi | a good example would be |
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| 02:02.58 | Silowyi | Blizzard changes the way combat information is presented to the client |
| 02:03.33 | Silowyi | so now a lot of combat log addons, parsers, stuff like SCT, damage meters addons, etc... have to be changed. |
| 02:03.47 | Xinhuan | i'm personally quite excited at the combat log change |
| 02:03.49 | Jaxon | All of them will have to be changed, but its for the better. |
| 02:03.52 | Silowyi | yup |
| 02:03.54 | Xinhuan | we'll see a new era of damage meters |
| 02:03.55 | Silowyi | agreed |
| 02:03.59 | Xinhuan | with new features and stuff |
| 02:04.00 | Silowyi | but its that kind of situation |
| 02:04.13 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56213 10Fizzle/Fizzle.toc: Fizzle: update zhTW Note |
| 02:04.15 | Silowyi | the most annoying thing though is that we don't have version control on this project yet. |
| 02:04.21 | Silowyi | But we will by Friday! |
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| 02:04.35 | Jaxon | Xinhuan: aside from specific mob tracking, I don't see what the big new features are going to be. |
| 02:04.53 | Silowyi | 1. Log parsing is inherently slower |
| 02:05.20 | Silowyi | 2. Per mob DPS and per mob threat (specific mob tracking as you said) |
| 02:05.38 | Jaxon | Features. I would say that speed increase is just an improvement :P |
| 02:05.56 | Jaxon | Like now the combat log doesn't need to be parsed for each locale. |
| 02:05.59 | Silowyi | unique mob ids, depending on how they are implemented, could be used for a variety of things |
| 02:06.24 | Xinhuan | jaxon, that change alone is enough to probably introduce many new features |
| 02:06.35 | Xinhuan | depending on how and what kind of unique ID is given to us |
| 02:06.55 | Xinhuan | at the momenet we don't know if that unique mob ID given is consistent across everyone in the whole raid, or only client specific |
| 02:07.14 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: that's a good point. |
| 02:07.36 | Silowyi | Xinhaun: we can only pray it's consistant |
| 02:07.46 | Jaxon | I don't see why not. |
| 02:08.06 | Xinhuan | it could just be the wow.exe client change that locally gives you a uniqueID, who knows |
| 02:08.37 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: Gee that would almost suck worse than it is now |
| 02:09.06 | Silowyi | I still wish they would give us more information about the effect types |
| 02:09.14 | Xinhuan | well if that is the case, its only a information presentation change, the server side doesn't need to change anything |
| 02:09.49 | Silowyi | wtb: everything under Spell Details from an api call pls thx: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33983 |
| 02:13.14 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56214 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: Added a second skill line |
| 02:13.24 | Xyphor | finally |
| 02:14.13 | Xyphor | kergoth: dedicated to you :p |
| 02:17.09 | kergoth | hehe, thanks |
| 02:18.29 | Xyphor | kergoth: offhand works for you? |
| 02:18.56 | kergoth | bout to check, reloadui's take a while with 265 addons :P |
| 02:19.14 | Xyphor | lol, I know |
| 02:19.20 | JoshBorke | kergoth: too many addons =P |
| 02:19.28 | Xyphor | I have 24... YOU WIN! |
| 02:19.30 | Xyphor | 244~ |
| 02:19.44 | Xinhuan | i bet babble is 10% of all those addons :D |
| 02:20.01 | Xinhuan | and periodic table is another 15% |
| 02:20.07 | Xyphor | babble=17 |
| 02:20.10 | kergoth | not using standalones, and not breaking up any modular addons but quartz |
| 02:20.16 | Xinhuan | since you're likely to have both PT3.0 and PT3.1 on your system |
| 02:20.21 | Xyphor | periot=9 |
| 02:20.23 | Xinhuan | and that's like 20 folders ;p |
| 02:20.42 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 02:20.47 | Xinhuan | 265 REAL addons? |
| 02:20.50 | Xyphor | that is sick... |
| 02:20.54 | kergoth | :P |
| 02:20.59 | kergoth | i need to clean up again |
| 02:21.01 | Xinhuan | what the heck ~_~ |
| 02:21.05 | Xyphor | yes yo do need that :p |
| 02:21.16 | Xinhuan | you should combine small addons into a single one! |
| 02:21.19 | kergoth | i just did last week, removed a bunch... then added more than i removed :D |
| 02:21.47 | Xinhuan | what do you use? |
| 02:22.04 | Xyphor | Leave kergoth alone, he's testing my addon! :p |
| 02:22.12 | kergoth | nevermind, i'm behind |
| 02:22.16 | kergoth | i have 291 loaded right now |
| 02:22.24 | kergoth | but like 10 of those are probably things i'm seeing if i want to use or not, trying it |
| 02:22.34 | kergoth | and auctioneer advanced is like 30 |
| 02:22.58 | Xinhuan | heh, i wasn't aware AA is 30 addons |
| 02:23.10 | Xyphor | kergoth: I just found out I need a "resetwin" button :p |
| 02:23.52 | kergoth | aud-advanced, auc-filter-basic, auc-filter-outlier, auc-match-undercut, auc-scndata, auc-stat-purchased, auc-stat-simple, auc-stat-stddev, auc-util-appraiser, etc |
| 02:24.06 | kergoth | <3 aucadv |
| 02:24.38 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:24.43 | Xinhuan | scndata? |
| 02:24.50 | Xinhuan | oh Scan data |
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| 02:25.35 | Xinhuan | do you think an addon is really an addon anymore if it has 30 submodules? |
| 02:25.44 | Wobin_ | addmoreon? |
| 02:25.53 | Wobin_ | addson |
| 02:26.03 | Wobin_ | addaddaddon |
| 02:26.18 | Xyphor | addoncaller |
| 02:29.17 | Xinhuan | it would be cool if wow allowed addons to have submodules that can be turned on/off in the login screen |
| 02:29.31 | Xinhuan | rather than forcing everything to be in the top AddOns\ level |
| 02:30.29 | kergoth | that sure would be cleaner |
| 02:31.31 | Xinhuan | but i actually don't see a easy way to implement it atm |
| 02:32.03 | Wobin_ | wtb gluexml? |
| 02:32.33 | Xinhuan | i mean for blizz to implement it |
| 02:35.13 | kaiden | Anyone know if someone has used Cartographer_Routes yet to layout all the rare mobs wander paths? |
| 02:36.09 | Xinhuan | not possible kaiden |
| 02:36.25 | Ellipsis | that's not what Routes does o.O |
| 02:36.27 | Xinhuan | Routes only reads the herb/ore/fish nodes data and nothing else |
| 02:36.27 | CIA-8 | 03mcc * r56215 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - use UTF8 charset for Chinese Words |
| 02:36.47 | kaiden | well see it would be cool to have another feature of it that could layout rare mob paths |
| 02:36.48 | kaiden | :) |
| 02:36.50 | Xinhuan | although yes, it can technically be extended to read _notes of any other addon |
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| 02:37.16 | kergoth | Xyphor: might want to default to something, logged in on my new rogue and it wasnt set to display anything, it confused me since it wasnt anywhere visible :) had to go into niagara to set it up. looks good though, like the second line |
| 02:37.46 | Xyphor | kergoth: making resetwin now |
| 02:37.57 | Xyphor | Something went wrong somewhere... |
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| 02:38.55 | MoonWitch | hi .. came here with a question that's driving me mad. |
| 02:39.19 | ulic | 42 |
| 02:39.26 | MoonWitch | I've been looking at Industrial's oUF layout, which states this in a function. local cunit = self.unit:gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) |
| 02:39.52 | Xinhuan | and? |
| 02:40.13 | MoonWitch | I can't get the gsub to get through to me.. lol gsub( string, pattern, replace [,n]) |
| 02:40.22 | MoonWitch | what the heck is the '(.)' |
| 02:40.29 | Xinhuan | self.unit:gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) |
| 02:40.31 | Xinhuan | is the same as |
| 02:40.36 | Xinhuan | gsub(self.unit, '(.)', string.upper, 1) |
| 02:40.49 | nymbia | Xinhuan: LIES!!! |
| 02:40.49 | Xinhuan | '(.)' is the same as "(.)" |
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| 02:41.00 | MoonWitch | so it looks for ( . ) in self.unit |
| 02:41.03 | Xinhuan | and it matches a single character which is passes to string.upper |
| 02:41.10 | Xinhuan | the return value is then subbed in |
| 02:41.24 | Xinhuan | in overall effect of the whole code, is justto capitalize the entire string |
| 02:41.32 | MoonWitch | thanks |
| 02:41.37 | Xinhuan | local cunit = self.unit:gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) |
| 02:41.46 | MoonWitch | I was missing the entire (self.unit as string to be parsed |
| 02:41.53 | MoonWitch | been looking at the PIL for an hour lol |
| 02:42.02 | Xinhuan | is then, the same as local cunit = self.unit:upper() |
| 02:42.02 | Xinhuan | i think |
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| 02:42.11 | Xinhuan | so its just a convoluted way to do it |
| 02:42.31 | nymbia | very. |
| 02:42.34 | Xinhuan | lua> ("abCdeFg"):gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) |
| 02:42.35 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: AbCdeFg, 1, |
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| 02:42.48 | Xinhuan | hmm or does it? |
| 02:43.01 | Ellipsis | it just capitalizes the first letter |
| 02:43.07 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:43.09 | Xinhuan | ah yes |
| 02:43.12 | Ellipsis | the pattern only gets matched once |
| 02:43.12 | nymbia | yeah that's the 1 |
| 02:43.16 | Xinhuan | it only finds and replaces 1 match |
| 02:43.16 | MoonWitch | ok .. that's simple, but written out long |
| 02:43.42 | Corgan | lua> print 'I had urmom for dinner last night'; |
| 02:43.42 | lua_bot | Corgan: I had urmom for dinner last night |
| 02:43.46 | Xinhuan | would have been easier to just do |
| 02:43.49 | Xinhuan | recipient = string.upper(strsub(recipient, 1, 1))..strsub(recipient, 2); |
| 02:43.58 | MoonWitch | my main thing was trying to combine two writting styles I assume.. the self.unit:gsub and gsub(self.unit ... |
| 02:44.04 | Xinhuan | to capitalize the first letter |
| 02:44.12 | Xinhuan | but i guess that is more function calls? |
| 02:45.21 | MoonWitch | I can't really say I see why it has to b uppercase, unless of course the later variables are uppercase |
| 02:45.26 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56216 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): |
| 02:45.26 | CIA-8 | PowerDisplay: |
| 02:45.26 | CIA-8 | - added option to reset the window |
| 02:45.26 | CIA-8 | - better choice of default stats to show |
| 02:45.29 | Xyphor | :) |
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| 02:45.52 | MoonWitch | which they're not .. |
| 02:46.19 | Xinhuan | lua> local t = GetTime() local a = "abCdeFg"; for i = 1, 10000 do a:gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) end print(GetTime() - t) |
| 02:46.19 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "local t = GetTime() local a = "abCdeFg"; fo..."]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 02:46.23 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 02:46.26 | Xinhuan | whats the function |
| 02:46.54 | MoonWitch | http://ace.pastey.net/78209 |
| 02:47.07 | Xinhuan | lua> local t = time() local a = "abCdeFg"; for i = 1, 10000 do a:gsub('(.)', string.upper, 1) end print(time() - t) |
| 02:47.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0 |
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| 02:48.01 | Xyphor | kergoth: any more wishes? |
| 02:48.03 | MoonWitch | it's from a layout for oUF |
| 02:48.12 | kergoth | can't think of any, works nicely |
| 02:48.21 | MoonWitch | so self.unit would give eg. oUF.Player/Target/Focus |
| 02:48.29 | Xyphor | I just don't know about that profile stuff you mentioned kergoth |
| 02:48.56 | Xinhuan | _G[cunit..'FrameDropDown'] |
| 02:49.11 | Xinhuan | aren't those frames part of default UI? |
| 02:49.20 | Xinhuan | for Party, Player and Target |
| 02:49.27 | MoonWitch | it's the right click function on player I think |
| 02:49.31 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 02:49.59 | MoonWitch | I am picking this appart to get a better understanding of it all, so I have it printed out with more notes than print on it :P |
| 02:50.05 | MoonWitch | apart* |
| 02:50.28 | MoonWitch | I don't see how local _G = _G has a use though |
| 02:50.39 | Xinhuan | it makes access _G faster |
| 02:50.42 | Xinhuan | accessing* |
| 02:50.50 | MoonWitch | it makes the global local then? |
| 02:50.54 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:51.47 | Xyphor | kergoth: LOL, I forgot the crits :p |
| 02:52.00 | MoonWitch | the part in pastey is the only thing I didn't get.. still don't fully, but it'll come |
| 02:52.39 | Xinhuan | which part, it looks ok to me |
| 02:52.53 | Xinhuan | it is registering the frame's menu appropriately |
| 02:53.24 | Xinhuan | if the frame 's unit is "player", then it registers PlayerFrameDropDown as its dropdown menu |
| 02:53.25 | MoonWitch | well, he sets local unit = self.unit:sub to get from 1 letter to 2 from the end, but then checks it to the full name of self.unit |
| 02:53.46 | Xinhuan | that is because unitID |
| 02:53.49 | Xinhuan | is party1 to party4 |
| 02:53.55 | Xinhuan | so by extrating (1, -2) |
| 02:54.04 | Xinhuan | he is getting all the letters from the first to the 2nd last |
| 02:54.10 | Xinhuan | i.e dropping the number |
| 02:54.10 | MoonWitch | you get just part |
| 02:54.18 | Xinhuan | no you get "party" |
| 02:54.31 | MoonWitch | so it sees strings as partyx. |
| 02:54.32 | Xinhuan | the first to the 2nd last |
| 02:54.34 | MoonWitch | the dot being end. |
| 02:54.47 | Xinhuan | self.unit:sub(1, -2) |
| 02:54.51 | Xinhuan | party1 --> party |
| 02:54.53 | Xinhuan | party4 --> party |
| 02:55.16 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 02:55.16 | Xinhuan | lua> ("party1"):sub(1, -2) |
| 02:55.16 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: party, |
| 02:55.19 | Xinhuan | get it? :) |
| 02:55.30 | Xinhuan | -1 refers to the last character, -2 refers to second last |
| 02:55.45 | Xinhuan | if unit == 'party' or unit == 'partypet' then |
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| 02:55.54 | Xinhuan | it is just checking if the unitID is partyX or partypetX |
| 02:55.56 | MoonWitch | disconnect .. |
| 02:56.14 | Xinhuan | [11/29 10:56:50] <Xinhuan> self.unit:sub(1, -2) |
| 02:56.14 | Xinhuan | [11/29 10:56:54] <Xinhuan> party1 --> party |
| 02:56.14 | Xinhuan | [11/29 10:56:56] <Xinhuan> party4 --> party |
| 02:56.16 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 02:56.19 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 02:56.29 | MoonWitch | I was just adding an extra -1 if that makes sense |
| 02:56.53 | Xinhuan | -1 refers to the last character, -2 refers to second last |
| 02:56.57 | MoonWitch | basically in my mind, I took a math approach .. end -2 .. party1.end left me with part |
| 02:57.22 | MoonWitch | yeah I got 0 as refering to last |
| 02:57.28 | MoonWitch | kinda stupid now :( |
| 02:57.49 | MoonWitch | now I understand it fully though :) thank you |
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| 03:02.04 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56217 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: tweak |
| 03:08.17 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm anyone else getting lots of errors with AceEvent-2.0.lua:907? |
| 03:09.37 | aestil | BT just doesn't at all feel epic |
| 03:09.58 | aestil | probably gets better |
| 03:11.38 | Garoun|Loupana | Scratch that, it's something Atlasloot is causing |
| 03:12.02 | Garoun|Loupana | I disabled atlas and atlasloot, reloaded ui and everything is working again |
| 03:12.50 | aestil | a bunch of stuff was changed in ace. i think it was acecomms, might have been aceevent. |
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| 03:13.46 | Garoun|Loupana | And I guess EquipCompare needs to be updated |
| 03:13.57 | Garoun|Loupana | cause it's coming up incompatible |
| 03:14.03 | Xinhuan | it won't be updated |
| 03:14.08 | Xinhuan | it hasn't been updated for over a year |
| 03:14.15 | Xinhuan | apart from changing the TOC number |
| 03:14.32 | Garoun|Loupana | I guess I'll have to look into it unless you know of a valid alternative :P |
| 03:14.47 | Xinhuan | you either change the toc number itself, or use TekCompare or Mirror :) |
| 03:15.06 | Garoun|Loupana | Didn't know Tek built one |
| 03:15.29 | Garoun|Loupana | granted, I tend to only look for replacements when one breaks beyond repair and/or causes problems :) |
| 03:15.38 | Xinhuan | or you can use the default UI |
| 03:15.43 | Xinhuan | which already has the same functionality |
| 03:15.49 | Xinhuan | by holding down the SHIFT key |
| 03:16.05 | Xinhuan | so the addon in itself doesn't add anything extra |
| 03:16.18 | Xinhuan | other than not having you need to hold down the shift key |
| 03:17.16 | Garoun|Loupana | where did you see a method in the default ui to show both tips? |
| 03:17.26 | Tekkub | well tK does do the ItemRef tip, and hover tips in chat frames |
| 03:17.42 | Xinhuan | well the default UI has had it for longer than half a year |
| 03:17.54 | Xinhuan | its just that most EQCompare users dont' even know it |
| 03:18.11 | Tekkub | l2patchnotes :P |
| 03:18.12 | Garoun|Loupana | I used EquipCompare with RatingsBuster since I'm a druid and have a million items to keep track of |
| 03:18.33 | Xinhuan | the default UI's tooltip works with RB too |
| 03:19.24 | Garoun|Loupana | Must have been before I paid so much attention to it |
| 03:19.33 | Garoun|Loupana | I'll gladly switch to using default UI for that |
| 03:19.57 | sylvanaar | someone do me a favor and forum-ban that Kingfish dude |
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| 03:22.45 | sylvanaar | seriously, what an a-hole |
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| 03:23.42 | grennon | i stopped using ratingsbuster a long time ago |
| 03:23.57 | grennon | i was using pawn to do scaled values for items |
| 03:24.01 | grennon | then i found itemvalue |
| 03:24.37 | tekcub | sylv... |
| 03:24.42 | grennon | scales ftw |
| 03:24.54 | tekcub | don't edit posts you wish to use as justification for a ban |
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| 03:25.14 | tekcub | cause, like, as far as I can tell he said he likes kitties |
| 03:25.32 | tekcub | and I can't ban someone that likes kitties |
| 03:25.32 | grennon | can i has cheezburger? |
| 03:25.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 03:25.41 | Garoun|Loupana | Really wish SMF had a diff filter for edited posts lol |
| 03:26.11 | MoonWitch | what post is it lol |
| 03:26.14 | MoonWitch | i wanna read it |
| 03:26.32 | Tekkub | <deleted> Request forum ban. « Last Edit: Today at 09:18:09 pm by sylvanaar » |
| 03:26.36 | Garoun|Loupana | I think it was edited so the original text is missing |
| 03:26.38 | Tekkub | I don't know what it was |
| 03:26.41 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 03:26.52 | grennon | i assume he was banned because sylv is more a dog lover |
| 03:27.03 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 03:27.03 | Tekkub | sylv hates fish |
| 03:27.09 | sylvanaar | he keeps linking to his reverse engineered copy of WAU |
| 03:27.27 | grennon | oh god, tell me its not odlaw |
| 03:27.36 | Tekkub | next time, just edit the link, say... replace it with *link removed* |
| 03:27.45 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 03:27.51 | Wobin_ | or a keylogger.exe =P |
| 03:27.57 | Wobin_ | PS, don't do that =P |
| 03:27.59 | Tekkub | was there no other text in the post? |
| 03:28.00 | MoonWitch | revoke his posting rights... but don't fully ban him .. it's more fun that way ;) |
| 03:28.11 | sylvanaar | read "How to crack wowupdater" |
| 03:28.14 | sylvanaar | kk |
| 03:28.22 | grennon | whats the users name? |
| 03:28.33 | Tekkub | kingfish |
| 03:29.19 | Ellipsis | I don't get it, what's wrong with posting an improved version of an open source program |
| 03:29.47 | sylvanaar | because, that version wasnt open source |
| 03:29.48 | grennon | are you going to pay the hosting bill jack? |
| 03:29.50 | Tekkub | we've been around in circles about this, please don't start it again |
| 03:30.15 | Ellipsis | so WAU is not open source? |
| 03:30.17 | sylvanaar | no |
| 03:30.22 | Tekkub | not anymore |
| 03:30.25 | Ellipsis | I see |
| 03:30.30 | Tekkub | because of this |
| 03:31.50 | MoonWitch | ok, there are ads in WAU, I kinda look at the addons, not the ads. they don't bug me.. |
| 03:32.01 | MoonWitch | if it was popup etc it would bug me a great deal |
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| 03:35.49 | MoonWitch | amusing topic in a way |
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| 03:37.20 | kenlyric | strange typo |
| 03:37.31 | kenlyric | you said amusing where you must have meant boring. |
| 03:37.34 | kenlyric | zzzzzz |
| 03:37.44 | MoonWitch | well it is amusing in a way |
| 03:37.46 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 03:37.49 | MoonWitch | i'll put it like that |
| 03:37.59 | grennon | any google svn users? i have a non-wow project i was thinking of using google to store, wanted to know impressions on it |
| 03:37.59 | kenlyric | ah, my mistake. |
| 03:38.30 | MoonWitch | I find it amusing how he went on saying WAU was public domain therefore he was within his rights to nick it, while he insisted WAU broke sf.net terms |
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| 03:38.56 | MoonWitch | as far as I can see, no closed source version of wau is in fact hosted on sf.net so... is there then a breach? |
| 03:39.04 | kenlyric | grennon: no any interaction as a developer, but as a random bug fixer I liked it and would do projects using it. |
| 03:39.20 | grennon | danke |
| 03:39.25 | kenlyric | Although they're slowly building Skynet, I <3 google's stuff. |
| 03:39.26 | MoonWitch | and yes, I use google svn as well. It is quite nice, handy as your own lil svn storage |
| 03:39.28 | NightHawkTheSane | grennon: it's pretty decent |
| 03:39.33 | MoonWitch | skynet? |
| 03:39.37 | MoonWitch | that's a Belgian ISP |
| 03:39.47 | kenlyric | that's pretty funny |
| 03:40.09 | NightHawkTheSane | grennon: the only thing i think is really missing is the ability to have pre/post commit scripts |
| 03:40.20 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional) |
| 03:41.01 | sylvanaar | i removed all the downloadable versions from sf.net |
| 03:41.24 | MoonWitch | sf.net can't do anything else but delete the project or not delete it |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56219 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (GeneralPvP.tw.lua sets.tw.lua): |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56218 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.tw.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua): |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 03:41.31 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 03:41.38 | MoonWitch | it's hosted on wowace.com, so i wouldn't worry about it one bit |
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| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | 03nandini * r56220 10PitBull_FullBar/PitBull_FullBar.toc: |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | PitBull_FullBar: |
| 03:44.39 | CIA-8 | - update toc to 2.3 |
| 03:45.57 | fishbot2 | reverse engineered version? how is that possible |
| 03:47.03 | MoonWitch | fishbot2 i think he basically shoves a program through a disassembler thing, which gives some form of code and works from there |
| 03:47.14 | MoonWitch | it's what crackers to do get illegal games |
| 03:47.27 | grennon | he probably just hex-edited out the code with a URL for the random ad |
| 03:47.31 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 03:47.33 | grennon | thats hardly reverse engineering |
| 03:47.42 | MoonWitch | that's well .. sad |
| 03:47.44 | Ellipsis | no, he actually disassembled it |
| 03:47.53 | Ellipsis | at least that's what he claimed in the thread |
| 03:47.53 | grennon | i guess .net might be easily dissassembled, since its not machine code |
| 03:48.01 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's practically as easy as java |
| 03:48.07 | sylvanaar | no, unless obfuscated, .net will decompile into close to source form |
| 03:48.08 | MoonWitch | i have no idea about that lol never used.net |
| 03:48.51 | grennon | its everything you hated about java except its implementations are worse than suns JVMs |
| 03:48.57 | Ellipsis | exactly! |
| 03:49.03 | grennon | complete with background services |
| 03:49.12 | kenlyric | well, some people wouldn't exactly hate that feature :) |
| 03:49.27 | MoonWitch | so it'll make me cry |
| 03:49.32 | fishbot2 | isn't that illegal (cracking)? |
| 03:49.43 | MoonWitch | if copyrighted I would think so |
| 03:49.51 | MoonWitch | in this case, I don't know |
| 03:50.22 | MoonWitch | technically altering closed source applications isn't nice. legally I can't comment too much since I don't know about the licenses and all that |
| 03:50.29 | MoonWitch | all i know is GPL lol |
| 03:50.38 | MoonWitch | ok and ccl |
| 03:51.11 | fishbot2 | dunno about the reverse engineering, but unless the person is spreading a copy of wau with the patch applied its probably ok |
| 03:51.37 | kenlyric | oddd.. the spade icon disappeared on both my computers. |
| 03:51.37 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 03:51.47 | JoshBorke | maybe |
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| 03:51.53 | MoonWitch | he is spreading it, since he posted the URLs to it |
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| 03:52.02 | fishbot2 | well thats the logic I use with the wow model changer :z |
| 03:52.09 | MoonWitch | in any way, it's just really very very bad manners |
| 03:52.14 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 03:52.24 | JoshBorke | i'm of the opinion that releasing a version of wau against author's wishes is bad, mmk |
| 03:52.33 | JoshBorke | i just wanted to respond to a nope comment in a smart ass way |
| 03:52.33 | MoonWitch | but do you go smack that into Blizzards face too? |
| 03:52.33 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 03:52.39 | JoshBorke | i hope that didn't hurt your feeling sylv =/P |
| 03:52.49 | grennon | i think the legal terminology you are looking for is that the guy is a being "raging retard" and is acting "like a butthole" |
| 03:52.52 | kenlyric | though, given the rather nasty things pushed through graphical ads in the past year and the fact that it uses IE to render them, I sorta get why someone would want to get around that. |
| 03:53.16 | fishbot2 | it uses IE? :( |
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| 03:53.27 | kenlyric | it's .net |
| 03:53.37 | grennon | not quite IE |
| 03:53.38 | kenlyric | click on one of them once :) |
| 03:53.39 | fishbot2 | so if someone found a hole in the wowace wiki and got in they could put a 0-day trojan in and infect all wau users |
| 03:53.48 | sylvanaar | not quite |
| 03:53.51 | grennon | theres a web rendering widget for VC/VB/NET |
| 03:53.57 | grennon | its the same engine IE uses |
| 03:54.04 | fishbot2 | cant wau just download the .gif file and show that instead of using ie? |
| 03:54.08 | grennon | think of IE as being a huge app based on that widget |
| 03:54.12 | kenlyric | i haven't noticed if it uses any animated or flash ads |
| 03:54.26 | sylvanaar | its different depending on where you live |
| 03:54.28 | kenlyric | seriously, it's been stuck on gametap for weeks |
| 03:54.43 | fishbot2 | hmm, never mind, its flash |
| 03:54.56 | fishbot2 | couldnt you get the swf file and use a flash component? |
| 03:55.08 | MoonWitch | grennon why yes, that's the legal terminology i was seeking :P |
| 03:55.10 | grennon | its like saying something that uses Gecko is "firefox based" |
| 03:55.12 | kenlyric | microsoft had the audacity to call IE7 a "premium" web browser in exchange 2007 |
| 03:55.47 | grennon | engine/widget != app |
| 03:56.17 | sylvanaar | well, basically, ad procviders are set up to serve banner ads, so it was an easy system to put in place |
| 03:56.20 | MoonWitch | but app can contain said engine/widget |
| 03:56.21 | kenlyric | group calendar only works in "premium" browsers like IE7. |
| 03:56.35 | MoonWitch | premium browser my ass lol |
| 03:56.39 | sylvanaar | anything else would be extremely complicated |
| 03:56.59 | MoonWitch | 90% of their "innovating" improvements were nicked from other browsers |
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| 03:57.08 | kenlyric | on a different subject, anyone else think the whole wowhead hover links invasion is sorta dumb? All those people running a third party script on their site seems a bad idea. |
| 03:57.09 | sylvanaar | you cant just invent an ad distibution technology on the fly |
| 03:57.30 | MoonWitch | wowhead hover over links? |
| 03:57.40 | grennon | uhhh, what? |
| 03:57.54 | MoonWitch | and no, you can't just have an ad system like that easily |
| 03:58.08 | kenlyric | <script src="http://www.wowhead.com/widgets/power.js"></script> |
| 03:58.22 | MoonWitch | nor can you please everyone, but what is free to us, costs other people money |
| 03:58.25 | kenlyric | put that in your page and links to wowhead will pop out like stuff in the armory does. |
| 03:58.57 | MoonWitch | no thank you, I'd rather shoot myself |
| 03:59.02 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 03:59.04 | Xinhuan | do you have to modify all your links to use that .js? |
| 03:59.07 | kenlyric | no. |
| 03:59.08 | Xinhuan | onMouseOver and stuff |
| 03:59.11 | Diao | oh really |
| 03:59.14 | Diao | you don't need itemlinks anymore? |
| 03:59.14 | kenlyric | you put that on the op of your page |
| 03:59.23 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.54 | Diao | well itemlinks you do [item]itemname[/item] |
| 03:59.57 | fishbot2 | sylvanaar: was it a copy of wau then? you could write an email to his website hosting if so |
| 04:00.05 | kenlyric | no. |
| 04:00.16 | kenlyric | it just changes what happens when you hover over a normal link to wowhead. |
| 04:00.19 | Diao | oh |
| 04:00.34 | kenlyric | but the functionality isn't the dumb thing |
| 04:00.41 | kenlyric | *most dumb thing |
| 04:01.10 | MoonWitch | I just figured it could be done with CSS lol |
| 04:01.13 | kenlyric | it's the whole "haha, crack one file and do fun things to 100s of websites" |
| 04:01.22 | MoonWitch | very try |
| 04:01.23 | fishbot2 | that could be fun |
| 04:01.24 | MoonWitch | true* |
| 04:01.24 | kenlyric | dumb of wowhead, imo. |
| 04:01.29 | MoonWitch | true |
| 04:01.32 | kenlyric | give the script, tell people to put it on their own website |
| 04:01.48 | fishbot2 | arent wowhead owned by a gold selling operation? |
| 04:01.52 | MoonWitch | smart asshole could wreak havoc on quite a few sites |
| 04:01.57 | Diao | no |
| 04:01.59 | Diao | that's a rumor |
| 04:02.00 | Xinhuan | no |
| 04:02.04 | grennon | a "game services" company |
| 04:02.09 | sylvanaar | fishbot2 its a copy of wau which he doesnt have the right to distribute thats all i know |
| 04:02.17 | Xinhuan | wowhead and IGE is owned by the same owner, but they aren't directly linked to each other otherwise |
| 04:02.33 | Xinhuan | so you can't say wowhead is owned by a gold selling operation |
| 04:02.33 | kenlyric | child pornographers use wowhead to fund iran. |
| 04:02.37 | Xinhuan | because it isn't true ;d |
| 04:02.39 | grennon | the same stuff got said when that same company bought thottbot |
| 04:02.52 | JoshBorke | i kill babies |
| 04:02.56 | JoshBorke | how bout them apples? |
| 04:02.57 | fishbot2 | sylvanaar: well if its a direct copy and not just a patch you should probably mail them |
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| 04:03.36 | sylvanaar | fishbot2 id rather just erase his posts |
| 04:03.57 | kaiden | Xinhuan/Diao, how the heck is it a rumor |
| 04:03.57 | MoonWitch | but does the added license on WAU dictate that old versions that may or may not be open source are now considered closed source since the type of the original app changed? |
| 04:04.04 | kaiden | l2doresearch before you give answers |
| 04:04.23 | kaiden | if you do any digging into their parent companies they have holdings in hundreds of different gold selling companies |
| 04:04.31 | Diao | a holding company |
| 04:04.31 | fishbot2 | heh |
| 04:04.33 | Diao | is different |
| 04:04.38 | Xinhuan | its a rumour because it isn't true. just because both are owned by the same parent company doesn't imply the owner is a gold selling company |
| 04:04.42 | fishbot2 | could be VERY profitable putting some zero-day exploit in there at some point then |
| 04:04.44 | sylvanaar | MoonWitch the only source which is open is the source I post |
| 04:05.12 | kaiden | Xinhuan, that's like saying just because you are funded by a company because you were a baby killer that doesn't make them a baby killer company |
| 04:05.13 | kaiden | lol |
| 04:05.16 | Diao | that's like saying dairy queen is owned by an insurance company |
| 04:05.16 | MoonWitch | which isn't open anymore |
| 04:05.20 | kenlyric | you know, the mob uses the same tricks. |
| 04:05.22 | Diao | because both are owned by berkshire hathaway |
| 04:05.22 | Xinhuan | its how you view it |
| 04:05.28 | kenlyric | what, we don't own severed head R us!? |
| 04:05.33 | CIA-8 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r56221 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua: |
| 04:05.33 | CIA-8 | Cartographer_ExtractGas: |
| 04:05.33 | CIA-8 | - some more German translation from Jens Oberender |
| 04:05.40 | MoonWitch | bottom line to me is that he's an ass about it, |
| 04:05.45 | Xinhuan | for eg, Vivendi owns Blizzard, but i don't consider Vivendi a game making company |
| 04:05.46 | kenlyric | so do the tobacco companies. Oil companies. |
| 04:05.50 | Xinhuan | see? |
| 04:05.52 | sylvanaar | MoonWitch the stuff on sf.net worked just fine, he didnt need the lastest code |
| 04:05.53 | Xinhuan | big difference |
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| 04:06.03 | MoonWitch | ah, that I didn't know sylvanaar |
| 04:06.10 | MoonWitch | never checked sf code |
| 04:06.11 | Antiarc | Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. |
| 04:06.21 | kenlyric | yes, but if vivendi owned a gold selling company, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest? |
| 04:06.21 | MoonWitch | i just use whatever version is most current from wowace |
| 04:06.24 | Antiarc | Hahahahahahaha |
| 04:06.26 | Antiarc | ahahahahahahaha. |
| 04:06.28 | kenlyric | wouldn't blizzard be offended by that? |
| 04:06.29 | Antiarc | So. |
| 04:06.37 | Xinhuan | maybe, maybe not |
| 04:06.39 | Antiarc | There's a trojan or something equally shifty in wowui's UICentral package. |
| 04:06.46 | Xinhuan | that's merely based on opinion |
| 04:06.51 | sylvanaar | oh well |
| 04:06.58 | Xinhuan | but the fact is still that wowhead is NOT owned by a gold selling company |
| 04:06.58 | MoonWitch | just the same as I disable my adblocker on wowace.com ... |
| 04:07.10 | Xinhuan | they are merely related by having the same parent company |
| 04:07.12 | sylvanaar | Antiarc i did get keyloggered from something i dowloaded from UICentral actually |
| 04:07.14 | Shirik | can I? |
| 04:07.15 | Shirik | please please? |
| 04:07.23 | nymbia | Antiarc: final nail in the reputation coffin? |
| 04:07.26 | kenlyric | it's sorta like not being concerned that your brother is a murderer. Maybe you should care, *if* you really thing what they do is wrong. |
| 04:07.32 | Antiarc | One can hope. |
| 04:07.38 | Antiarc | Just unpack the installer with 7Zip |
| 04:07.41 | Xinhuan | you're arguing based on morals |
| 04:07.45 | Antiarc | If you have any antivirus software, it'll complain |
| 04:07.57 | Xinhuan | facts are facts |
| 04:07.58 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: yeah, I know. Alien concept to corporations. |
| 04:07.59 | Antiarc | 13kb ScreenhotConverter.exe packaged with it. |
| 04:08.02 | Xinhuan | not based on morals |
| 04:08.03 | Shirik | someone give me permission so I can go see >< |
| 04:08.03 | MoonWitch | Antiarc yes it does complain lol had that happen too |
| 04:08.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i feel stupid for asking this, but can you rend in defensive stance? |
| 04:08.26 | Antiarc | yup |
| 04:08.27 | grennon | wowhead was aquired like half a year ago or more, its old business |
| 04:08.30 | MoonWitch | oh ok shirik, just go for it .. but don't cry if bad things happen, like carnivorous demons sprouting from your pc |
| 04:08.30 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 04:08.54 | Shirik | MoonWitch: I know what I'm doiing, I've done this countless times before :) I just want permission so I can point at someone if someone goes "You evil you disassembled my stuff!" |
| 04:09.10 | Shirik | what's their URL anyway? |
| 04:09.16 | MoonWitch | oh fine point at me |
| 04:09.27 | MoonWitch | I'll point at one of my personalities and refer them to my shrink |
| 04:09.32 | MoonWitch | no idea, google it |
| 04:09.33 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 04:10.51 | sylvanaar | honestly you can disassemble whatever you want, nothing to stop you |
| 04:11.38 | Shirik | Antiarc: You say it was ScreenhotConverter.exe? |
| 04:11.50 | Antiarc | That's what set mine off, yes |
| 04:12.07 | Shirik | been so long since I've used this stuff, feels good to get back into it again :) |
| 04:12.09 | Antiarc | I ran it through strings but didn't see anything damning |
| 04:12.31 | fishbot2 | sylvanaar: I found the page, it's just a patch, there's no version of WAU? |
| 04:13.40 | sylvanaar | fishbot2 i dont care, i dont like that guy |
| 04:14.08 | fishbot2 | that's not really justification for a ban though :P |
| 04:14.22 | fishbot2 | posting copyrighted stuff of course is |
| 04:14.27 | MoonWitch | alrighty guys, it's been very pleasant, but I am off to play some DoD, thank you again for the help. Sylv, don't let this get to you. |
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| 04:14.42 | fishbot2 | his site seems to be down now... is someone attacking it? :P |
| 04:14.48 | sylvanaar | i hope so |
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| 04:16.41 | Shirik | What's wininet.dll? |
| 04:16.47 | sylvanaar | ok - im going to raid now, and try to become not pissed off |
| 04:16.56 | fishbot2 | hf |
| 04:16.56 | sylvanaar | its the windows internet helper apis |
| 04:17.01 | sylvanaar | nn |
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| 04:17.19 | Shirik | A screenshot converter needs this? |
| 04:17.23 | fishbot2 | lol |
| 04:17.23 | Shirik | =) |
| 04:17.26 | fishbot2 | where? |
| 04:17.35 | Shirik | And it calls URLDownloadToFileW() |
| 04:17.41 | fishbot2 | link? =) |
| 04:17.43 | Antiarc | Shirik: Pretty sure you just struck paydirt. |
| 04:17.49 | Shirik | followed by ShellExecuteW() |
| 04:17.50 | Shirik | ha |
| 04:17.54 | Antiarc | Oh good lord |
| 04:18.02 | Antiarc | Shirik: Post that in this thread please: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&postId=31679941744&sid=1#5 |
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| 04:18.43 | fishbot2 | Shirik: got a copy of the executable? |
| 04:18.51 | Shirik | yeah, messing with it :) |
| 04:18.52 | Antiarc | fishbot2: You can get it from the UICentral package |
| 04:18.54 | Shirik | Antiarc: Will do :) |
| 04:19.05 | Antiarc | Just open the setup exe in 7Zip |
| 04:19.08 | fishbot2 | but there's an .exe |
| 04:19.09 | fishbot2 | aha |
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| 04:19.59 | Antiarc | After this raid I'm going to fire up a fresh windows VM and see what it does =) |
| 04:21.43 | fishbot2 | mov edi, offset aHttpWowui_incg ; "http://wowui.incgamersi.com/updata.exe" |
| 04:21.48 | fishbot2 | is what it fetches |
| 04:22.02 | Antiarc | Let's see what it gets! |
| 04:22.16 | Xinhuan | whats going on with UICentral? |
| 04:22.25 | fishbot2 | which is most definately a trojan |
| 04:22.48 | fishbot2 | the first thing it does if check whether or not a debugger is present |
| 04:22.49 | Shirik | Antiarc: Posted :) |
| 04:22.52 | Shirik | with Screenshot |
| 04:23.05 | Antiarc | Post what you find, too, fishbot2 |
| 04:23.19 | fishbot2 | I'm eu |
| 04:23.34 | Antiarc | Write up a post and pastey it, I'll post it |
| 04:23.47 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, you know sanitybags sometimes loses bag data? or at least i've heard other ppl complain about it |
| 04:23.51 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 04:24.03 | Xinhuan | i'm guessing the reason |
| 04:24.06 | Xinhuan | want to hear it? |
| 04:24.12 | fishbot2 | it injects a dll into lsass.exe |
| 04:24.16 | fishbot2 | so you can't kill it |
| 04:24.23 | Antiarc | Damn. |
| 04:24.32 | Shirik | This looks to be a .NET application!! |
| 04:24.37 | Shirik | If so, I might be able to build the source code |
| 04:24.45 | fishbot2 | the interesting stuff isn't the VB application |
| 04:24.56 | fishbot2 | the file it's injecting is wzcsvc.dll |
| 04:24.59 | Xinhuan | basically, if someone takes something out of the bank, say bag 9, and puts it in bag 2... then closes the bank and runs away before the BAG_UPDATE events fire |
| 04:25.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 04:25.05 | Xinhuan | one for each bag |
| 04:25.10 | Xinhuan | if you try to save the contents of bag 9 |
| 04:25.12 | Shirik | updata.exe? Should I analyze this file too? |
| 04:25.13 | Shirik | hehehe |
| 04:25.16 | Xinhuan | it'll come up as all nil |
| 04:25.22 | Xinhuan | because BANK_FRAME_CLOSED has already fired |
| 04:25.50 | Xinhuan | i'm guessing that is the problem, but since i never looked at your code, its just a guess ;p |
| 04:27.30 | fishbot2 | it attempts to download this dll from http://updateaddressservice |
| 04:27.34 | fishbot2 | so I'm not sure it'll actually work |
| 04:28.43 | fishbot2 | oh wait a second |
| 04:28.55 | fishbot2 | its trying to call findresource on the exe itself |
| 04:28.58 | fishbot2 | so the dll is inside the exe file |
| 04:29.09 | Ellipsis | the only thing I can think of that could possibly be a valid reason for that code is if it has some kind of image uploading feature |
| 04:29.46 | Lukian | yay colour :D |
| 04:30.04 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=1699 |
| 04:30.07 | Funkeh` | beta v2 http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8625/wowscrnshot112907042856bx8.jpg |
| 04:30.13 | Xinhuan | 1000 downloads of BankItems within 24 hours ;p |
| 04:30.14 | Funkeh` | gah wrong window |
| 04:30.21 | Shirik | huh... "analysis fails" |
| 04:30.23 | Shirik | failed* |
| 04:30.57 | fishbot2 | okay, extracted it, I've uploaded it to http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/cdp34/NASTYBADDLL.DLL |
| 04:31.04 | fishbot2 | that dll is probably a virus, so don't run it... ;P |
| 04:31.14 | fishbot2 | that dll gets injected into lsass.exe |
| 04:31.19 | fishbot2 | so it's probably a win32 service |
| 04:31.48 | fishbot2 | lol |
| 04:31.53 | fishbot2 | it watches for you to run wow.exe |
| 04:31.57 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx_ (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 04:32.01 | Antiarc | Keylogger. |
| 04:32.09 | Ellipsis | ^I lol'ed |
| 04:32.09 | Antiarc | I hope this kills wowui dead. |
| 04:32.54 | Wobin_ | ahah =) |
| 04:33.36 | Antiarc | fishbot2: Type up a post explaining how you got to that conclusion and I'll post it on the US forums |
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| 04:37.46 | Shirik | boo =( |
| 04:37.54 | Shirik | ScreenhotConverter.exe does not have a CLI header =( |
| 04:38.00 | Shirik | no rebuilding source code |
| 04:38.36 | *** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@dslb-084-056-158-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:38.38 | fishbot2 | it's written in C |
| 04:38.44 | *** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 04:38.49 | fishbot2 | visual C |
| 04:39.01 | fishbot2 | need to figure out what mouse.dll does |
| 04:39.03 | Funkeh` | How did this get in? |
| 04:39.08 | testleK | Hey anyone here know about baggins addon? is there a way to change it from alt-right click to something else for editing specific items? (I can't alt-right click in linux in game it gives me a right click titlebar menu ;-) |
| 04:39.12 | Funkeh` | website hacked or put in purposely? |
| 04:39.36 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 04:39.46 | Shirik | Updata.exe has a function named InjectService.exe |
| 04:39.49 | Shirik | er |
| 04:39.49 | Xinhuan | i will highly doubt that a website gets hacked |
| 04:39.51 | Shirik | InjectService() |
| 04:40.00 | Shirik | which is immediately followed by the string lsass.exe |
| 04:41.05 | nymbia | pretty subtle |
| 04:41.57 | nymbia | is their site down now or is it just me |
| 04:42.11 | Xinhuan | well, most hackers wouldn't expect the average user to open up their exe and read the disassembly ;p |
| 04:43.23 | *** join/#wowace JoshBork2 (n=Josh@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu) |
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| 04:43.52 | fishbot2 | Shirik: I said this like 20 minutes ago :p |
| 04:43.58 | Shirik | =( |
| 04:44.11 | fishbot2 | I can't find a copy of mouse.dll anywhere though |
| 04:44.22 | fishbot2 | so if someone wants to run it and send me mouse.dll! :P |
| 04:44.32 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:44.38 | nymbia | i'll get right on that |
| 04:44.44 | fishbot2 | looks like the way to avoid keyloggers though is to rename wow.exe to something else |
| 04:45.25 | Funkeh` | blizz should make their own addon website tbh |
| 04:45.36 | Xinhuan | does wow work if you rename wow.exe? |
| 04:45.40 | Funkeh` | where people go and post addons, then we sue them if they fuck up |
| 04:45.47 | Shirik | Xinhuan: If you run it yourself :) |
| 04:46.02 | Xinhuan | yeah but i'm wondering if there's some silly sideeffects |
| 04:46.05 | Lukian | Xinhuan, one little addition of guild bank items to the tooltip and I love you long time :D |
| 04:46.08 | Shirik | You can alter the launcher to call something else, I assume. Not sure if this would trigger it though. |
| 04:46.09 | Antiarc | fishbot2: I'll get one for you after Hyjal |
| 04:46.13 | Antiarc | I've got a VM I can use |
| 04:46.17 | Xinhuan | that will take time lukian ;p |
| 04:46.17 | Shirik | But you could create a wow.exe that runs your fake wow.exe |
| 04:46.30 | fishbot2 | whoever wrote this fucked up though, it's attempting to update from http://updateaddresservice instead of a real website |
| 04:46.32 | Xinhuan | i see issues with adding guild to it |
| 04:46.39 | fishbot2 | Antiarc: cheers |
| 04:46.51 | Xinhuan | because if you're just a normal member of a raiding guild, the items in the bank you can't withdraw aren't yours |
| 04:47.10 | Poul|Raider | for k,v in pairs(T) do --that dont take functions right, if T.lol is a function it wont iterate over it right? |
| 04:47.15 | Xinhuan | plus you could have guildbank data of 5 different guilds |
| 04:47.25 | Lukian | Xinhuan, you should consider it from the perspective of bankalts before actual characters? :D |
| 04:47.39 | testleK | Hey does anyone know if you can replace *if IsAltKeyDown() and* with *if IsSuperKeyDown() and* could I just use the windows key instead of the alt key? |
| 04:47.44 | nymbia | Poul|Raider: how would you iterate over a function? |
| 04:47.46 | Xinhuan | hence its a design issue |
| 04:47.50 | Thrae | Poul|Raider: Lua deals with objects, not types. A function is an object just like a number is an object. |
| 04:47.57 | Xinhuan | simply adding guildbanks to the tooltips isn't useful for the average user |
| 04:48.17 | Xinhuan | its like a niche request for the rare few people who even bothered to create personal guildbank alts |
| 04:48.17 | Lukian | I'm an average user :( I just happen to have a 3 tab guildbank shared with my housemate :p |
| 04:48.23 | Ellipsis | testleK: there is no IsSuperKeyDown() function in WoW |
| 04:48.30 | testleK | doh |
| 04:48.42 | Ellipsis | you can use shift or control though |
| 04:49.05 | testleK | Is there a place I can get a list of this stuff so I dont have to bother you? :) |
| 04:49.11 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 04:49.11 | testleK | ty for answering btw |
| 04:49.22 | Thrae | Poul|Raider: foo = { function(a) end, function(b,f) end }; for i,v in ipairs(foo) do print(type(v)) end <--- this would print out two cases of "function" |
| 04:49.22 | fishbot2 | yes I don't think it will actually work |
| 04:49.23 | testleK | Awsome thanks! |
| 04:49.26 | Xinhuan | i don't see a easy way to implement your request without affecting other issues |
| 04:49.31 | Xinhuan | users* |
| 04:49.32 | fishbot2 | unless http://updateaddressservice points somewhere |
| 04:50.09 | JoshBork2 | lua> foo = { function(a) end, function(b,f) end }; for i,v in ipairs(foo) do print(type(v)) end |
| 04:50.09 | lua_bot | JoshBork2: function, function |
| 04:50.12 | Lukian | You could check if they have withdraw access and automatically hide the items based upon that, or allow options to choose which guildbanks to show in tooltip? |
| 04:50.12 | JoshBork2 | see? |
| 04:51.29 | Xinhuan | that isn't "easy to implement" |
| 04:52.25 | Poul|Raider | oki, Thrae |
| 04:53.46 | *** join/#wowace |Stan| (n=Stanzill@p54994718.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:58.24 | kenlyric | you know, blizz needs to let us copy enchants and gems to new items when we're comparing them. |
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| 04:58.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 04:58.34 | kenlyric | I hate having to do math in my head. |
| 04:58.50 | Xinhuan | you can use /print 1+1 in game |
| 04:59.01 | Xinhuan | assuming you use at least one Ace2 or Rock addon |
| 04:59.22 | Lukian | or you can use GnomeCruncher :D |
| 05:01.27 | kenlyric | i wonder if RB could be made to ignore gems/enchants. |
| 05:01.40 | JoshBork2 | kenlyric: doesn't it have that option? |
| 05:01.41 | Antiarc | I think it has that option |
| 05:01.43 | Xinhuan | yes you can kenlyric |
| 05:02.12 | kenlyric | holy god |
| 05:02.13 | NightHawkTheSane | RB does |
| 05:02.39 | kenlyric | why would you hide shit like that! |
| 05:02.45 | NightHawkTheSane | its not really hidden... |
| 05:02.53 | Ellipsis | l2configure your addons |
| 05:02.55 | JoshBork2 | kenlyric: not really hidden |
| 05:02.56 | Xinhuan | you merely never looked in the options |
| 05:02.58 | JoshBork2 | it's in the options.. |
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| 05:03.07 | kenlyric | I skipped right over that line. |
| 05:03.16 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats your fault. ;) |
| 05:03.17 | kenlyric | I have no idea why |
| 05:03.22 | kenlyric | well obviously |
| 05:03.26 | kenlyric | l2sarcasm |
| 05:03.33 | testleK | Thanks again Ellipsis I got it figurd out and fixed for my use haha :) |
| 05:03.45 | Ellipsis | glad you got it working testleK :) |
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| 05:04.02 | kenlyric | so that cowl of naaru blessings does suck ass. |
| 05:04.04 | aestil | dance party! |
| 05:04.08 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=me@hmbg-4d0616c0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 05:04.09 | aestil | BT sucks! |
| 05:04.17 | kenlyric | my head math was right. |
| 05:04.45 | kenlyric | ilevel110? is that old badge gear? |
| 05:04.59 | kenlyric | goddamn blizzard |
| 05:05.11 | kenlyric | put old badge gear on another guy. in lower city. maybe under the ground. |
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| 05:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i'd be happy if they just put the resistance gear on another guy, ><M |
| 05:07.59 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:08.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, wading through the resistance stuff sucks |
| 05:08.33 | Ellipsis | I don't mind having all the other stuff together though, it's not that hard to figure out which is good and which isn't >_> |
| 05:08.45 | kenlyric | just vendor filters in general would be nice. |
| 05:08.57 | Ellipsis | hah, keep dreaming |
| 05:08.59 | kenlyric | like "don't show me stuff I can't wear" |
| 05:09.12 | Ellipsis | at least they mark those |
| 05:09.12 | kenlyric | they did it with recipes and trainers. |
| 05:09.44 | Ellipsis | I guess they could do that the same way they do with the set token vendors |
| 05:10.22 | kenlyric | course, that only really helps cloth users. |
| 05:10.28 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 05:10.30 | fishbot2 | okay, figured out where it comes from |
| 05:10.35 | Ellipsis | but that's all I care about!!! :D |
| 05:10.40 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 05:10.43 | fishbot2 | h!!p://uicentral.incgamers.com/new/patch/Setup.exe |
| 05:10.47 | fishbot2 | but that appears to be down :( |
| 05:11.25 | fishbot2 | can anyone resolve it? |
| 05:11.29 | kenlyric | we got a fun phishing scam this week. |
| 05:11.33 | kenlyric | 27 people replied to it. |
| 05:11.50 | kenlyric | to their credit, three people realized what they had done right away. |
| 05:12.02 | fishbot2 | /dns uicentral.incgamers.com please =) |
| 05:12.08 | fishbot2 | your isp might have it cached :z |
| 05:12.18 | kenlyric | I would if I cared. |
| 05:12.36 | kenlyric | but that's my job, and I try really hard not to care about job stuff when not at job. |
| 05:12.54 | fishbot2 | is there someone more useful on some large US isp? |
| 05:12.58 | Ellipsis | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ispdns.ch?name=uicentral.incgamers.com&type=A |
| 05:13.10 | Ellipsis | not seeing anything there |
| 05:13.16 | fishbot2 | thats telling me I have to sign up |
| 05:13.23 | Ellipsis | oh, wait, there are a few |
| 05:13.29 | Ellipsis | looks like 89.107.69.69 |
| 05:14.13 | fishbot2 | whoop |
| 05:14.15 | fishbot2 | got it |
| 05:14.16 | fishbot2 | cheers |
| 05:14.29 | *** join/#wowace seXemplar (n=nnscript@124-171-194-20.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:14.35 | Ellipsis | hm, I didn't realize dnsstuff did an intercept if you go to the results page directly |
| 05:14.43 | kenlyric | zomg you've hacked my firewalls in seven second. |
| 05:15.34 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 05:18.37 | *** join/#wowace Comxx (n=Comxx@75.142.22.168) |
| 05:19.47 | Xinhuan | uh antiarc, "ui.worldofwar.net is a different site and is clean AFAIK." is that post sarcasm? :) |
| 05:19.56 | Antiarc | Did I misinterpret the "gg"? |
| 05:20.18 | Xinhuan | well that domain redirects to ui.incgamers.com |
| 05:20.21 | Antiarc | "gg" in the context of WoW usually means "haha, sucks to be you loser" |
| 05:20.35 | Antiarc | ....doh |
| 05:20.39 | Antiarc | I wat thinking wowinterface |
| 05:20.42 | Xinhuan | so they are effectively the same site |
| 05:20.48 | Xinhuan | so i'm thinking WTF at your post |
| 05:20.55 | Antiarc | Deleted, thanks >_> |
| 05:21.08 | Xinhuan | and i was wondering.. was it sarcasm? lol |
| 05:21.16 | Antiarc | nah, just stupidity |
| 05:21.23 | Xinhuan | thought so |
| 05:21.39 | Xinhuan | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405983 |
| 05:21.42 | Xinhuan | i posted there |
| 05:22.05 | Antiarc | 10g says it gets deleted. |
| 05:22.11 | Xinhuan | about the issue with the link to the thread |
| 05:22.13 | Xinhuan | maybe it will |
| 05:22.14 | Antiarc | By the ever-so-upstanding Rushster |
| 05:22.31 | Xinhuan | i WILL throw a fit if rushter deletes my post :) |
| 05:23.00 | Xinhuan | my 2770 post count predates WoW, as i used to be a forum moderator on their forums |
| 05:23.10 | Antiarc | WE TURN OFF GUEST ACCESS DURING BUSY PERIODS SUCH AS PATCH AND MAINTENANCE DAYS TO KEEP THE FORUMS RUNNING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FOR MEMBERS. |
| 05:23.19 | Xinhuan | i decided to leave them 2 years ago |
| 05:23.53 | Xinhuan | i wonder if i still have root ftp access to ui.worldofwar.net ;p |
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| 05:25.24 | Xinhuan | its funny how rush defends uicentral quite so vehemously |
| 05:25.25 | Antiarc | "The virus did not come from this site. You can also not get a virus from UICentral. UIcentral can not activate/unpack execeutable files. I suggest you look elsewhere for the virus source." |
| 05:26.57 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 05:26.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 05:28.03 | Antiarc | He's been in a PR war with the other sites for ages |
| 05:28.19 | Codayus | uicentral is like, a parody, right? |
| 05:28.21 | Codayus | >< |
| 05:28.21 | Antiarc | He's basically cut out his niche by trying to prove he's more trustworthy than other sites |
| 05:28.28 | Shirik | Antiarc: Is he aware of teh disassembly I posted? |
| 05:28.35 | Antiarc | Check the link that Xinhuan posted |
| 05:28.41 | Shirik | I can't go there |
| 05:28.43 | Shirik | and don't feel like registering |
| 05:28.47 | Shirik | kinda in an instance atm :P |
| 05:29.28 | Antiarc | The info was posted, yes |
| 05:29.29 | Antiarc | No response yet |
| 05:31.19 | Xinhuan | i'm personally interested in the response |
| 05:31.32 | Antiarc | Oh, I'm very interested |
| 05:32.08 | JoshBorke | does anyone here use VitalWatch? |
| 05:33.28 | fishbot2 | Antiarc: had a look at running it in a vm? =) |
| 05:33.36 | Antiarc | Not yet. I'm in hyja; |
| 05:33.48 | fishbot2 | approximately when are you out? I need to go to bed :( |
| 05:34.07 | Antiarc | Probably not another hour-90 mins :/ |
| 05:34.14 | fishbot2 | okaydoke |
| 05:37.17 | Wobin_ | Why does Rushter even try? |
| 05:37.45 | Wobin_ | "The virus did not come from this site. You can also not get a virus from UICentral. UIcentral can not activate/unpack execeutable files. I suggest you look elsewhere for the virus source." |
| 05:38.06 | Antiarc | "kk. *unpacks installer* ooh, shiny!" |
| 05:38.14 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:38.17 | Wobin_ | I mean, honestly, most people would go "hm, a virus eh? I'd better fucking check my official download" |
| 05:38.20 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 05:38.32 | *** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 05:38.44 | Wobin_ | And then try to shift the blame to a hacker if it's true |
| 05:39.03 | Wobin_ | "We apologize, but our servers were 'hacked', and that's never good!" |
| 05:39.49 | Shirik | well |
| 05:39.49 | Shirik | when they release the new file |
| 05:39.49 | Shirik | I'll just analyze it again |
| 05:39.59 | grennon | yeah, i hack on servers every day, its sad when they dont know the proper term is "crack" |
| 05:40.16 | Wobin_ | Shirik: He'll probably wait a couple of iterations before injecting it again =P |
| 05:40.28 | grennon | people who only got the internets after the sandra bullock movie really need to try to get the lingo right |
| 05:40.43 | Wobin_ | And name the file something innocuous, like "Icanhaspasswdplz.exe" |
| 05:40.53 | Wobin_ | grennon: hehe best movie ever |
| 05:41.04 | Wobin_ | "I shall load a virus by pressing ESCAPE" |
| 05:41.20 | kenlyric | the virus is melting the monitor. |
| 05:41.22 | kenlyric | run! |
| 05:41.34 | Wobin_ | almost as good as ID4's "I'll hack the ALIEN computer with my MACINTOSH" |
| 05:41.53 | kenlyric | macs at that time couldn't even communicate properly with PCs |
| 05:41.59 | Wobin_ | Well duh |
| 05:42.04 | Wobin_ | it's cause they're clearly alien in origin |
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| 05:42.57 | Shirik | I still can't believe they called the function InjectService() |
| 05:43.08 | Shirik | I mean, seriously, you would expect at least SOME amount of obfuscation |
| 05:43.16 | Xinhuan | what for Shirik? |
| 05:43.28 | Shirik | the wowui program |
| 05:43.35 | Wobin_ | Icanhaspasswdplz() |
| 05:43.39 | kenlyric | George Lucas couldn't get simple astronomical measurements right. what hope is the for computers? |
| 05:44.00 | Xinhuan | umm i mean, why is obfuscation necessary? ;p |
| 05:44.12 | Wobin_ | That's true |
| 05:44.12 | Shirik | I wouldn't have found that stuff nearly as quickly if he didn't call it InjectService() |
| 05:44.28 | Shirik | I probably would have still found it, but it would have taken a little bit of time |
| 05:44.30 | *** join/#wowace cchome (n=cchome@cpe-66-65-115-134.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 05:44.30 | Shirik | instead of like... 5 minutes |
| 05:44.32 | Wobin_ | It's not likely that anyone reverse engineering it doesn't already have suspicions =P |
| 05:44.56 | Shirik | seriously all I did was hit "string references" and jump to that line :P |
| 05:44.59 | kenlyric | I like Joss Whedon's take on movie reality. "Science makes my head hurt" |
| 05:45.05 | kenlyric | at least he's honest about it. |
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| 05:46.26 | fishbot2 | Shirik: well if it's correctly packed unless you're pretty damned good you won't be able to poke inside it |
| 05:47.00 | Shirik | I haven't yet found a program I can't get into :) |
| 05:47.14 | Wobin_ | Shirik is a mastor haxx0r |
| 05:47.32 | Wobin_ | or is that ub3r1337? |
| 05:47.52 | Wobin_ | You need a name |
| 05:47.55 | fishbot2 | I can probably give you one or two |
| 05:47.57 | Xinhuan | have you tried looking into a cracked version of Fraps.exe ;p |
| 05:48.03 | Wobin_ | like Crash Reload |
| 05:48.04 | Antiarc | Shirik: skype.exe |
| 05:48.13 | Wobin_ | or AngelinaJolie |
| 05:48.18 | Shirik | Skype? |
| 05:48.20 | Shirik | ok I'll look at it :) |
| 05:48.21 | fishbot2 | the packer for mechwarrior 2 took me about a week to break |
| 05:48.29 | Antiarc | Skype does some insane things with their binaries |
| 05:48.43 | Shirik | I gotta admit some people are good about it |
| 05:48.47 | Shirik | some people are absolutely stupid |
| 05:48.56 | Shirik | RF Online was so easy to get through |
| 05:49.07 | fishbot2 | most programs are |
| 05:49.20 | CIA-8 | 03eraslin * r56222 10DKPmon_PercentDKP/ (DKPmon_PercentDKP.toc example.lua): DKPmon_PercentDKP: toc update. |
| 05:50.45 | grennon | skype is nasty |
| 05:50.46 | Tekkub | best thing about git? dangling and severed heads |
| 05:51.00 | grennon | corporate networks get bogged down by it, its insanely hard to block |
| 05:51.20 | grennon | at one point they had an IP in the binary that could be blocked to prevent people from using it |
| 05:51.37 | grennon | but they moved on to an authentication swarm to prevent that |
| 05:52.00 | grennon | its traffic patterns are more like a worm than an application |
| 05:53.11 | CIA-8 | 03chuanhsing * r56223 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua: FuBar_MailFu: update zhTW |
| 05:55.08 | Antiarc | Oh shits |
| 05:55.11 | Antiarc | A bump from Slouken |
| 05:55.14 | Antiarc | On the UICentral thread |
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| 05:57.02 | Aeyan | Neat |
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| 05:59.06 | Wobin_ | Antiarc: which link? |
| 05:59.16 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1 |
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| 06:00.39 | grennon | and slouken has re-iterate the completely obvious |
| 06:00.44 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 06:00.57 | Wobin_ | as a Blizzard poster, he is -required- to do so =) |
| 06:04.20 | cogwheel | grennon: obviously it's not obvious or people wouldn't do it :P |
| 06:04.45 | Wobin_ | Common sense, isn't. |
| 06:04.55 | fishbot2 | Without bothering to sift through the code, I assume this to prove that the program attempts to register a DLL in the Windows LSP which can then be used to analyze packets being transmitted. |
| 06:04.59 | fishbot2 | thats bullshit |
| 06:05.01 | grennon | there used to be this mod pack, most of you have probably forgotten it, nobody prboably uses it anymore |
| 06:05.04 | grennon | called Cosmos |
| 06:05.14 | fishbot2 | why bother to do that when a) wow uses challenge response auth and b) it's a pain compared to a 2 line keylogger |
| 06:05.17 | grennon | that i wouldnt install because it used an exe installer :-) |
| 06:05.21 | Aeyan | I used it back in the before times |
| 06:05.24 | Aeyan | In the long, long ago |
| 06:05.32 | Wobin_ | grennon: hehe the good old days |
| 06:05.37 | cogwheel | grennon: cosmos never made you use an installer |
| 06:05.39 | Aeyan | Oh, I don't remember it when it used an exe actually |
| 06:05.42 | fishbot2 | Shirik: explain yourself! |
| 06:05.43 | Wobin_ | When Cosmos and Gypsy were all there was |
| 06:05.54 | Shirik | fishbot2: ? |
| 06:05.56 | cogwheel | they always provided zip downloads |
| 06:06.02 | grennon | cogwheel: dont contradict my obvious smear with the truth |
| 06:06.19 | fishbot2 | sniffing the traffic gets you nothing |
| 06:06.31 | grennon | some people take all the fun out of UI hazing |
| 06:06.32 | Shirik | It was just a guess, I've noted that (1) I didn't bother to check, and (2) I have no knowledge of how the authentication works |
| 06:06.49 | Shirik | Now that I know that, I realize I'm probably wrong, buti t doesn't change the fact that that program is doing something it probably shouldn't do |
| 06:07.06 | Shirik | besides, how do you know that this program's impact is limited to wow :) |
| 06:07.18 | fishbot2 | because I can see the disassembly |
| 06:07.30 | Shirik | so can I |
| 06:07.37 | fishbot2 | and it uses pstools to get the handle of wow.exe then does its business with that |
| 06:07.40 | fishbot2 | and only that |
| 06:08.03 | Shirik | then why, may I ask, does it mess with lsass? |
| 06:08.04 | fishbot2 | not pstools, whatever the debugging utility dll is |
| 06:08.12 | fishbot2 | because it's the typical way malware hides itself |
| 06:08.13 | cogwheel | grennon: sorry... i'm a truth nazi :P |
| 06:08.19 | fishbot2 | you inject a dll into an innocent looking process |
| 06:08.25 | Antiarc | Shirik: That keeps it from being shut down |
| 06:08.25 | fishbot2 | and also a process that windows won't let you kill |
| 06:08.30 | Shirik | fair enough |
| 06:08.51 | fishbot2 | svchost and buddies are all just dll servers anyway |
| 06:09.01 | Shirik | Like I said, I only took about 5 minutes looking at it |
| 06:09.15 | Shirik | didn't bother to go into detail because it obviously was malicious, and I didn't feel like findint out exactly what it did |
| 06:09.23 | fishbot2 | well I did say most of this earlier, before you posted that :p |
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| 06:09.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, can you pick up a daily heroic quest, and do & turn it in the day after? |
| 06:09.33 | Xinhuan | does it really matter? |
| 06:09.37 | Xinhuan | how the trojan works |
| 06:09.40 | grennon | NightHawkTheSane: yes |
| 06:09.42 | fishbot2 | yes |
| 06:09.51 | grennon | NightHawkTheSane: but you wont be able to pick up the new quest that day |
| 06:09.53 | fishbot2 | malware is interesting |
| 06:09.58 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 06:09.59 | Xinhuan | fact is a trojan exists |
| 06:10.04 | Xinhuan | that's good enough ;p |
| 06:10.12 | fishbot2 | and knowing how it works helps you get rid of it |
| 06:10.27 | Xinhuan | i leave that to the anti virus experts ;p |
| 06:10.48 | fishbot2 | well it is the topic of my thesis :p |
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| 06:12.25 | Shirik | See, this is why I live in my embedded system world |
| 06:12.28 | Shirik | =) |
| 06:13.03 | Shirik | While I find security fascinating, I don't typically have the patience to be going through stuff like this unless I'm accomplishing a goal (like removing that damn multiple-process blocker from RF Online) |
| 06:14.02 | fishbot2 | well if I can be bothered I might make a presentation on this at friday's lab security group meeting |
| 06:14.05 | fishbot2 | big if |
| 06:14.26 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 06:17.44 | dreamss | u could hook into wow and disable warden to get the pass |
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| 06:19.43 | Xuerian | "Gyvon: and they are STILL cleaning up after the whole wowace mess. " Wha? |
| 06:22.19 | Ellipsis | Xuerian: ninjaing all the wowace addons and putting them on their site? |
| 06:22.31 | Xuerian | Ellipsis: Ah, that's what I thought |
| 06:22.56 | Ellipsis | also, the slouken bump pretty much seals the deal |
| 06:23.38 | Xuerian | "Card carrying member of P.E.T.A, the People for the Eating of Tasty Animals" Also, awesome. |
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| 06:28.29 | Jaxon | My favorite is "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I HATE vegetables." |
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| 06:34.28 | NightHawkTheSane | celery killed my father. *nod* |
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| 06:37.14 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 06:37.25 | Antiarc | The trojan payload comes from an incgamersi.com domain |
| 06:37.31 | Antiarc | Which si registered by a bizcn.com |
| 06:40.20 | Jaxon | I just noticed all that drama. And what does that guy mean in the thread with "and they are STILL cleaning up after the whole wowace mess" |
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| 06:45.49 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56224 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-8 | -Fixed miss AL to BabbleBoss. |
| 06:45.49 | CIA-8 | -"Essence of Souls" need to translate. |
| 06:45.51 | Antiarc | The took all of the addons on Wowace and mirrored them without permission or consent last week |
| 06:46.03 | Antiarc | which is a problem since they weren't licensed to do that by their authors |
| 06:46.31 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 06:48.05 | Xinhuan | lol slouken locked that thread? |
| 06:48.23 | Antiarc | Not locked here |
| 06:48.32 | Antiarc | Oh, that thread |
| 06:49.05 | Xinhuan | wonder why it was locked |
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| 06:50.30 | NeoTron | Archimonde down! |
| 06:51.09 | Jaxon | Congrats. |
| 06:51.25 | Kerafyrm | wow |
| 06:51.27 | Jaxon | We had a bad night on Kael and didn't get very far into Phase 4. Third phase is still giving us some problems. |
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| 06:52.45 | NeoTron | 33 wipes |
| 06:52.50 | NeoTron | pretty sweet |
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| 07:03.43 | Kerafyrm | i wonder if a DMCA takedown to incgamers host would have any affect |
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| 07:11.20 | Effah | hmmm... |
| 07:12.26 | Effah | If I have table1 with a format of {index, {a, b}}, and I wanted to extract only {a,b} into a second table, would I need to iterate through table1, or is there a faster way? |
| 07:15.14 | Shirik | Firefox can't find the server at wow.incgamers.com. |
| 07:15.16 | Shirik | =( |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | Firefox can't find the server at wowui.incgamers.com. |
| 07:15.58 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's been up and down for me too |
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| 07:16.33 | Shirik | how.. ironic |
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| 07:17.47 | Shirik | maybe they got hacked |
| 07:17.52 | Shirik | that must explain the virus program, yeah? |
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| 07:18.45 | Nocts | WHOA JOINED THE WRONG CHANNEL |
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| 07:19.47 | Shirik | what was that all about? |
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| 07:35.28 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r56225 10Talented/ (core.lua talents.lua): |
| 07:35.28 | CIA-8 | Talented: |
| 07:35.28 | CIA-8 | _ Make Gratuity load only if needed. |
| 07:35.28 | CIA-8 | _ Fix a bug reported by Athariel. |
| 07:36.44 | Xinhuan | wowui.incgamers.com has been timing out on me the last 3 hours heh |
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| 07:42.48 | Tekkub | Shirik, ping |
| 07:43.01 | Shirik | sup |
| 07:43.06 | Tekkub | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fb59d6084b6391fc94d29b0b7c86d514.jpg |
| 07:43.11 | Tekkub | wut dat IRC client? |
| 07:43.21 | Shirik | nbs-irc over mirc |
| 07:44.32 | Tekkub | hrm.... okey |
| 07:44.42 | Shirik | sorry, I know most don't like mirc >< |
| 07:44.44 | Tekkub | was curious, had never seen an alert popup like that |
| 07:45.06 | Shirik | it's really nice |
| 07:45.20 | Shirik | so I can be in the middle of something and not have to alt-tab to respond to a ping if it's not important |
| 07:45.34 | Aeyan | Yeah, that's kinda nifty |
| 07:46.06 | Aeyan | I dropped mirc a while back to play with xchat then sort of just got used to it |
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| 07:46.14 | Aeyan | It's alright |
| 07:47.04 | Tekkub | xchat has it's annoyances |
| 07:47.19 | Tekkub | but, well, every multi-OS program seems to have them |
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| 07:48.15 | Xuerian | AtlasLoot Error, xx could not be accessed, bla bla might be out of date, bla bla. xx version> 4.02 AL version> 4.02. >_o |
| 07:48.37 | Xuerian | gg. |
| 07:52.40 | Aeyan | Shirik, quick question - if you run WoW in maximized window mode (if you have), will the alert window show over it? |
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| 07:52.50 | Shirik | it should |
| 07:52.57 | Aeyan | Extra nifty |
| 07:53.01 | Aeyan | I shall have to try it then |
| 07:53.10 | Shirik | it pops up in non-maximized mode so |
| 07:53.15 | Shirik | I assume the same is true for maximized |
| 07:55.30 | Xinhuan | cogwheel: ahaha at " "what thread?" ? more like "what site?" ... " reply :D |
| 07:55.48 | cogwheel | :) |
| 07:56.01 | RaydenUni | did they change sethekk so it gives rep up to exalted? |
| 07:56.07 | Xinhuan | yes they did |
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| 08:00.17 | Tekkub | I wonder how much longer ui.wow is gonna last |
| 08:00.40 | Tekkub | first they drove away the authors with the ace shit |
| 08:00.45 | Tekkub | now the users with their updater |
| 08:01.03 | greppy | ui.wow? |
| 08:01.16 | Tekkub | incgamers |
| 08:01.21 | greppy | ah |
| 08:02.10 | greppy | If it is not going to cause a meltdown, what happened with regards to Ace and incgamers? |
| 08:02.29 | Jaxon | I used to get all my mods there and stopped when more and more useless crap was getting added to the site. |
| 08:02.31 | RaydenUni | what time is honor awarded? |
| 08:02.39 | Tekkub | they tried to mirror everything on files.wowace without permission |
| 08:03.10 | Tekkub | and then were dicks about it when confronted |
| 08:03.36 | Kerafyrm | it only takes one or two DMCA takedown requests to their host to force them to relocate.. |
| 08:03.38 | Kerafyrm | hint hint :P |
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| 08:04.06 | Tekkub | yea well, next time |
| 08:04.15 | Tekkub | I'm sure there'll be a next time |
| 08:04.25 | Kerafyrm | nothing wrong with late submission imo |
| 08:04.27 | greppy | hmmm |
| 08:04.31 | Kerafyrm | just say it got overlooked or something |
| 08:04.34 | greppy | I don't think they would need permission... |
| 08:04.42 | NoLife3 | raydenUni: 2am usually |
| 08:04.44 | Tekkub | honestly, I like watching them do it to themselves |
| 08:04.47 | greppy | wowace.com has a CC license |
| 08:04.49 | Kerafyrm | good point |
| 08:05.00 | Tekkub | no greppy, the WIKI does |
| 08:05.15 | Jaxon | THe code belongs to the author |
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| 08:05.32 | Kerafyrm | and iirc its up to the author to specify a licence or not |
| 08:05.36 | Xinhuan | anyway, the simple fact that Slouken bumped the post will raise awareness to the millions out there |
| 08:05.42 | Kerafyrm | and if none is specified, the code remains theirs to do with as they please. |
| 08:05.48 | Tekkub | yup, good ol slow ken |
| 08:06.40 | Jaxon | Xinhuan: I doubt the UI and Macros forum has that large of a userbase. |
| 08:06.55 | Tekkub | nothing to bitch about there |
| 08:06.56 | Xinhuan | Jaxon: there are many websites that track blue posts |
| 08:07.02 | Xinhuan | including thottbot |
| 08:07.06 | Xinhuan | and wowblues |
| 08:07.13 | Xinhuan | and a few hundred others |
| 08:07.55 | Cairenn | and incgamer! |
| 08:08.02 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 08:08.03 | Cairenn | they have a blue tracker too |
| 08:08.04 | Xinhuan | irony |
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| 08:08.57 | greppy | Tekkub: ah, good point. Although, that being said. Unless they were trying to claim it as thier own, I don't exactly see where the problem would be. Wowace.com, no offense, is not exactly an easy site to get info on a mod. Sure, you can go to files.wowace.com and download it, but for many of the mods listed there is little if any documentation. |
| 08:09.39 | Jaxon | That trojan ousting thread god derailed and now I don't get to find out how the incgamers staff are going to talk that one away. |
| 08:10.04 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 08:10.43 | RaydenUni | get LC exalted or just farm rep to get season1 gavel |
| 08:11.14 | Xinhuan | that's because the incgamers website died the last 3-4 hours |
| 08:11.19 | Xinhuan | so there is nothing to talk about lol |
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| 08:12.23 | Kerafyrm | never ceases to amaze, thats for sure. |
| 08:12.30 | RaydenUni | the armory doesn't show honor? |
| 08:12.43 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 08:12.59 | Jaxon | Xinhuan: I'm more curious how they are going to explain a trojan ending up in their UI thingy or whatever it is. |
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| 08:13.35 | Tekkub | greppy, the whole point was, they can't just do that |
| 08:13.46 | Tekkub | had they asked, I bet something would have been worked out |
| 08:13.47 | Xinhuan | probably their oversight in trying to include a screenshot converting utility |
| 08:13.56 | Antiarc | Well |
| 08:14.06 | Tekkub | instead, they just took it, and then used the defense "you didn't say we couldn't" |
| 08:14.11 | Antiarc | They have ScreenshotConverter.exe in there, and ScreenhotConverter.exe |
| 08:14.14 | Antiarc | Two separate EXEs |
| 08:14.19 | Antiarc | One looks legit |
| 08:14.22 | Antiarc | The other is just the trojan |
| 08:14.27 | RaydenUni | what would take longer probalbly? earning 3150 arena points or 25100 honor? |
| 08:14.35 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56226 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:14.35 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:14.35 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 08:14.43 | Xinhuan | so both files are included |
| 08:14.44 | Xinhuan | ? |
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| 08:14.44 | Antiarc | 25k honor would be easier |
| 08:14.53 | Antiarc | You could do that in an AV weekend |
| 08:14.59 | Xinhuan | actually 25k honor requires at least 25 hours |
| 08:15.02 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Yes |
| 08:15.03 | Jaxon | RaydenUni: about 1k honor a day if you just do the daily quest. About 1k arena points a week IF you are on a team with a very good rating. |
| 08:15.05 | Xinhuan | i'll say grinding the rep is easier |
| 08:15.15 | Antiarc | Two exes in the installer |
| 08:15.19 | Antiarc | One obviously malicious |
| 08:15.21 | Tekkub | and what incgamers did wasn't any "easier" than files.wowace... it was, quite literally, a direct mirror of the files we have |
| 08:15.34 | greppy | Tekkub: When called on it, was it confrontational, or "Hey, you should have asked, make sure you give credit to where the files came from."? |
| 08:15.34 | Tekkub | just on their site and in their updater instead of on/in ours |
| 08:15.40 | Xinhuan | it was "easier" because UICentral users could use it Tekkub |
| 08:15.46 | Antiarc | Well |
| 08:15.52 | Antiarc | Gotta attract users for your trojan >_> |
| 08:15.54 | Tekkub | it wasn't about credit |
| 08:16.05 | Orionshock | greppy: one under handded motion deserves the back hand just like the next |
| 08:16.16 | Tekkub | and if they were smart, they'd have just made their shitty download pull from ace directly |
| 08:16.27 | Tekkub | there's how many different updater scripts out there? |
| 08:16.40 | Tekkub | our update site is open to that :P |
| 08:16.58 | Xinhuan | they probably figured that since they once blocked other updaters from downloading directly from incgamers |
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| 08:17.05 | Tekkub | you'd really understand more if you'd have see the agruements they put forth |
| 08:17.09 | Xinhuan | they didn't want to make their updater download from wowace directly |
| 08:17.12 | Tekkub | their story changed many times |
| 08:17.14 | Xinhuan | fear a backlash maybe? |
| 08:17.23 | Tekkub | and then they deleted the thread on their forum |
| 08:17.29 | CIA-8 | 03siz * r56227 10JewelTips/ (JewelTips.lua JewelTips.toc): |
| 08:17.29 | CIA-8 | JewelTips: |
| 08:17.29 | CIA-8 | - Eliminated some redundant code |
| 08:17.29 | CIA-8 | - Added a few enchants |
| 08:17.41 | Tekkub | fear, no, they'd get backlash either way |
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| 08:17.44 | Bruners | what are you discussing really? |
| 08:17.50 | RaydenUni | well i supposedly made 3000honor today :) |
| 08:17.56 | Tekkub | the fact they put the mods onto the site was proff they wanted the traffic |
| 08:17.57 | RaydenUni | also, AV is boring |
| 08:18.23 | RaydenUni | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/november/s2drake.jpg <-- i saw 5 people just chilling by the battlemaster in shattrath today |
| 08:18.26 | RaydenUni | showing them off i'm assuming |
| 08:18.27 | greppy | Tekkub: I don't doubt that I would have understood it more. I was just wondering why it was 'so bad' that they mirrored without asking if they attributed where the mods came from. |
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| 08:18.44 | Tekkub | because they didn't ask, and they were dicks |
| 08:19.00 | Kerafyrm | rub salt in the wound and make the deal with curse.. lol |
| 08:19.22 | Tekkub | honestly, had they come here and said, "hey, we want to do this... we've got it in the works... this is how it'd work" I doubt there would have been any big hubbub |
| 08:19.24 | Orionshock | lol don't tempt them |
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| 08:20.09 | Tekkub | it's all really about how they went about it, and how they reacted when people said "nuh uh" |
| 08:20.33 | ScoTTie | with ZA can you leave the timed chests and open them later ? |
| 08:20.41 | Antiarc | That and the fact that they flat-out lied about what they were doing |
| 08:20.46 | ScoTTie | or the NPCs |
| 08:20.54 | Tekkub | lied many times over |
| 08:20.58 | Chexsum | hey, wondering if someone can help a noob out with a problem; my battlegrounds minimap doesnt show anymore and i cant figure out how to get it to show - it might have been dragged off-screen or something |
| 08:21.05 | Tekkub | then tried to cover their tracks |
| 08:21.19 | RaydenUni | Chexsum shift-m |
| 08:21.44 | Tekkub | you'd think by now they'd learn a lil damage control... but no, their DC is deleteing the thread and changing the story |
| 08:21.46 | Chexsum | ok ill try it - shift-clicking the bg minimap button done nothing : |
| 08:22.15 | Jaxon | Chexsum: there is the layout-cache.txt file in your WTF folder that should also have an entry for it. |
| 08:22.16 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:22.18 | Diao | for paladin pvp |
| 08:22.23 | Diao | insightful earthstorm or mystical skyfire |
| 08:22.28 | Diao | debating |
| 08:22.55 | Bruners | 12 intellect and mana regen on spellcast |
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| 08:23.22 | Diao | that's insightful |
| 08:23.24 | Chexsum | jaxon, i looked there and seen nothing |
| 08:23.30 | Diao | not sure if it's all that great though |
| 08:23.30 | RaydenUni | so do you guys even bother playing the battleground that has the daily quest? |
| 08:23.34 | Diao | it does proc pretty decently |
| 08:23.42 | RaydenUni | on my server AV was the daily and horde lost every game i played and other people said the same thing |
| 08:23.43 | Diao | but i'm thinking half spellcast time would be pretty sick |
| 08:23.50 | Diao | horde wins almost every bg in bg9 |
| 08:23.53 | Diao | so i always do the daily |
| 08:23.55 | Bruners | you get more mana, more spellcrit, more healing and you might get mana back when casting |
| 08:24.14 | Chexsum | go for half spellcast time imo the mana return meta isnt so good |
| 08:24.18 | Diao | well |
| 08:24.23 | RaydenUni | people seemed to agree it was the influx of noobs trying to do the dialy |
| 08:24.27 | Diao | i used the mana return one in pvp last season |
| 08:24.30 | Diao | it was pretty good |
| 08:24.40 | Diao | but i was able to get off a rez a couple times |
| 08:24.47 | Diao | and other times i'd be at like 8 sec into the cast and get hit |
| 08:24.49 | Chexsum | on a nightbane fight ill get 300 mana at most :( |
| 08:24.58 | Diao | so i'm thinking the half cast one would be better |
| 08:24.59 | Diao | for a 5 sec rez |
| 08:25.06 | Diao | easier to get out of combat for 5 sec than 10 |
| 08:25.19 | Chexsum | nice idea :) |
| 08:25.44 | Chexsum | i use stam and 5% stun resist and like it |
| 08:26.32 | Chexsum | its great when a rogue tries to 5pt kidneyshot and it resists |
| 08:26.47 | Orionshock | Chexsum: try this /run BattlefieldMinimapOptions = nil /rl |
| 08:27.22 | Xinhuan | whoa incgamers up |
| 08:27.36 | Chexsum | ok ill join a bg and try them both |
| 08:28.10 | Chexsum | do you guys think its dumb to get a laptop for gaming instead of a pc ? |
| 08:28.19 | Orionshock | yes |
| 08:28.23 | greppy | Chexsum: My wife games only on her laptop. |
| 08:28.32 | Xinhuan | depends on how much you travel, but generally the laptop isn't a good interface for gaming |
| 08:28.35 | Chexsum | even an uber asus one ? |
| 08:28.50 | Xinhuan | small screen, small harddisks, external mouse needed, etc |
| 08:28.53 | Bruners | the reason to get a laptop is that you want to move around with it |
| 08:28.56 | greppy | I dropped $3k a couple years ago on a Dell XPS Gen2 for her |
| 08:28.59 | Xinhuan | and smal keyboard too, unless you use an external one |
| 08:29.08 | Bruners | and a laptop that you can move around is not really good for gaming |
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| 08:29.19 | greppy | 17" widescreen, 7200 RPM disk, 1gb of ram |
| 08:29.21 | Chexsum | i seen one for 2500 AU that was basically the same as a pc for the same money :\ |
| 08:29.33 | Xinhuan | well see, a 17" laptop is heavy :D |
| 08:29.33 | Bruners | and you cant really upgrade it |
| 08:30.25 | Bruners | you could have a small powerful laptop with external monitor, keyboard and mouse |
| 08:31.05 | Chexsum | thats what id do - id just want it to trade in later in perfect condition :P |
| 08:31.12 | Xinhuan | just doesn't sound right |
| 08:31.18 | Xinhuan | to use a laptop as part of a gaming rig |
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| 08:31.47 | greppy | *shrug* it works :) |
| 08:31.54 | RaydenUni | if you aren't going to move, then get a desktop |
| 08:31.57 | RaydenUni | but a laptop can be fast |
| 08:32.03 | RaydenUni | and it's so much more convenient for lan parties |
| 08:32.09 | greppy | my current laptop used to be my EQ gaming laptop, Toshiba Satellite. |
| 08:32.10 | Chexsum | its either that or buy a vaio/nec since i want it on intereset free credit |
| 08:32.19 | Diao | get a sff pc? |
| 08:32.27 | Diao | ;p |
| 08:32.28 | Chexsum | sff? |
| 08:32.32 | Diao | small form factor |
| 08:32.34 | RaydenUni | www.eurocom.com for laptops |
| 08:32.42 | Diao | although i have to say sager notebooks |
| 08:32.43 | RaydenUni | Diao you still need to haul a monitor |
| 08:32.45 | Diao | are pretty sick for gaming |
| 08:32.45 | greppy | Diao: still need to have an external display, etc etc for sff |
| 08:32.49 | Diao | eh |
| 08:32.53 | Diao | lcd monitors are light lol |
| 08:32.53 | RaydenUni | sager? |
| 08:32.55 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:33.01 | RaydenUni | never heard of them |
| 08:33.14 | Diao | www.sagernotebook.com |
| 08:33.17 | greppy | I have friends that are using current gen dell laptops to play wow and LOTRO |
| 08:33.18 | Chexsum | i wouldnt be travelling but itd be nice to sit outside once in a while :P |
| 08:33.18 | Bruners | shuttle-systems are not to bad |
| 08:33.18 | Kerafyrm | sigh at death of thinkpads |
| 08:33.30 | Diao | they're like the manufacturer for all the major companies |
| 08:33.39 | Diao | so if you buy direct from tehm it's much cheaper while being better qual |
| 08:33.52 | RaydenUni | my friend says the same about these guys: http://eurocom.com/ |
| 08:34.09 | RaydenUni | said he bought a laptop from them a few years ago that had the same number as an alienware, just different case |
| 08:34.13 | Bruners | the biggest problem with a laptop is if a component gets ill, you have to send in the holse shit |
| 08:34.29 | Bruners | with a desktop you can swithc parts out and even upgrade it |
| 08:34.34 | RaydenUni | yep |
| 08:34.38 | RaydenUni | do both |
| 08:34.53 | RaydenUni | get a laptop with SLI |
| 08:34.54 | Kerafyrm | hahaha |
| 08:35.01 | Kerafyrm | norris did a dew commercial |
| 08:35.14 | Chexsum | sli computers are too pricey for me |
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| 08:35.26 | greppy | Bruners: depends on your service plan, the LCD died on my wifes dell, dell sent someone out to the house to fix it. |
| 08:35.42 | Diao | sometimes they just send you a replacement part |
| 08:35.43 | Diao | also |
| 08:35.53 | RaydenUni | the sager cases are ugly |
| 08:35.55 | Chexsum | i seen an acer one with quad omething and sli mode dual nvidia for 3500 |
| 08:36.06 | Chexsum | droolable but too pricey |
| 08:36.17 | Chexsum | actually it wasnt acer it was custom |
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| 08:36.39 | Bruners | greppy: that might work if you live in a city |
| 08:36.47 | greppy | Bruners: I don't :) |
| 08:37.08 | Chexsum | im an aussie they dont do that stuff here |
| 08:37.14 | Jaxon | Don't bother with SLI, spend the money on a single card and when it falls behind, buy a duplicate card and then use SLI |
| 08:37.27 | RaydenUni | http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,189,0) |
| 08:37.29 | Chexsum | theyd even send macs to the main supplier :P |
| 08:38.12 | Chexsum | error: please contact support ;) |
| 08:38.29 | RaydenUni | no |
| 08:38.34 | RaydenUni | you just didn't copy the whole link |
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| 08:38.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 08:39.02 | Tekkub | murrr.... stupid CRLF |
| 08:39.04 | Shirik | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4068117#post4068117 |
| 08:39.04 | Shirik | replied |
| 08:39.12 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.31 | Jaxon | Sigh, I need to register an account for that? Retarded. |
| 08:39.32 | Shirik | CRLF = win. |
| 08:39.52 | Kerafyrm | ./agree jaxon |
| 08:40.12 | Shirik | *added edit* |
| 08:40.26 | Chexsum | thats slightly better than the one i was drooling over a few hours ago |
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| 08:44.55 | Xinhuan | i think you have a reply from Rushter |
| 08:45.19 | Xinhuan | he's pretty quick huh |
| 08:46.39 | Antiarc | Argh. |
| 08:46.55 | Antiarc | Rushster is so arrogant. |
| 08:47.37 | Kalroth | He's not arrogant, he's always right. |
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| 08:48.34 | Shirik | ahaha |
| 08:48.39 | Shirik | he's biting the bait too :) |
| 08:48.44 | Kerafyrm | jaxon did you register an acct? |
| 08:48.57 | Shirik | "No I am not an idiot and if you use that tone with anyone on these forums again you won't be here long." |
| 08:49.00 | Shirik | Oh yes I will.... |
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| 08:49.55 | Chexsum | :x |
| 08:50.13 | Kalroth | The aussie tincan wire broke, eh? |
| 08:50.32 | Chexsum | computer crashed, can whoever told me how to try and fix the battlefield minimap thing repot the line im supposed to try pls ? |
| 08:50.55 | Chexsum | getbattlefieldminimapsomething = nil ? |
| 08:51.19 | greppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.29 | Chexsum | my wow server suxors |
| 08:51.58 | Chexsum | ill probaby be in a 500 queue again grr |
| 08:52.39 | Keias | Which realm? |
| 08:52.45 | Xinhuan | hey i replied as well |
| 08:52.46 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 08:52.48 | Shirik | oh I'm having way too much fun Antiarc |
| 08:53.03 | Antiarc | I'd be having fun if he didn't make me stabby out of principle |
| 08:53.06 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust625.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 08:53.11 | Antiarc | But I've already had my Rushster quota for the month |
| 08:53.13 | Antiarc | I can't handle any more |
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| 08:54.24 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 08:54.28 | Xinhuan | i notice you edited your post as well |
| 08:54.32 | Xinhuan | to change .exe to ,exe |
| 08:54.37 | Antiarc | yes |
| 08:54.42 | Xinhuan | stupid filter |
| 08:54.43 | Antiarc | Because that stupid-ass filter is all wow************ |
| 08:55.21 | Xinhuan | you should screenshot/archive that thread now |
| 08:55.30 | Xinhuan | and post on official wow forums |
| 08:55.40 | Xinhuan | in the thread bumped by slouken |
| 08:55.55 | Xinhuan | or at least quote rushter |
| 08:56.45 | Jaxon | Is this on the incgamers forums? |
| 08:56.47 | Shirik | I have been :P |
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| 08:56.54 | Shirik | check out my edits in my most recent post on that thread |
| 08:56.57 | Xinhuan | yes, incgamers + official forums |
| 08:57.02 | Antiarc | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4068117#post4068117 is the incgamers forums |
| 08:57.16 | Shirik | I wonder how long it takes him to ban me |
| 08:57.29 | Jaxon | Unless there is a public account, I'm not registering to view one thread, thats silly. |
| 08:57.30 | Cairenn | can only see it if you are a registered user though, they close the forums to outsiders whenever the site is "busy" |
| 08:57.50 | Jaxon | Cairenn: I've never seen that site not "busy" whenever I get directed to threads there. |
| 08:57.55 | Shirik | there's a duplicate version Cairenn =) |
| 08:58.00 | Shirik | on the WoW forums |
| 08:58.07 | Shirik | courtesy of me: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&postId=31679144941&sid=1#24 |
| 08:58.11 | Antiarc | I'm saving snapshots of the thread as we go, too |
| 08:58.19 | Cairenn | I know there's a thread on the WoW forums, but Rushy isn't posting there - yet |
| 08:58.23 | Antiarc | Because the last thread showed that rush likes to bury his dirty laundry when he's done |
| 08:58.33 | Shirik | oh but I'm copying his posts there Cairenn :) |
| 08:58.42 | Shirik | so if you don't have an account, you can just go to the wow forums :P |
| 08:58.47 | Antiarc | Your last post got cut off, Shirik |
| 08:58.48 | Xinhuan | if you need my backing, i'll supply it, my post count is quite credible, at least more than a new user with single digit post counts :) |
| 08:58.50 | Cairenn | although I'm sure once he realizes that every blue tracker out there (including his own) has now caught that thread, he'll be there pretty quick |
| 08:58.53 | Shirik | Antiarc: boo =( |
| 08:59.04 | Shirik | lol! I forgot about that |
| 08:59.11 | Shirik | Slouken posting there caused it to hit the blue trackers, huh? |
| 08:59.15 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 08:59.21 | Kerafyrm | jaxon: if you didn't registered an account i made a bogus one you can use |
| 08:59.40 | Antiarc | The fact that it's pulling from a chinese site designed to look like the incgamers.com domain tells me that Rush may not be complicit in this |
| 08:59.45 | Antiarc | But that his security sucks monkeyballs. |
| 08:59.49 | Shirik | Xinhuan: I want to go down as the person who got banned with a 1 digit post count |
| 08:59.55 | CIA-8 | 03broliant * r56228 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/Locale-enUS.lua: FuBar_ConvergeFu: Massaged a guild text message for welcoming new initiate members. |
| 09:00.11 | Xinhuan | lol shirik |
| 09:00.17 | Xinhuan | that's not really necessary is it? :) |
| 09:00.35 | Shirik | I dunno, it's 4 AM |
| 09:00.36 | Shirik | I'm tired |
| 09:00.40 | Shirik | and I need something to keep me awake |
| 09:00.51 | Xinhuan | its 12 noon in Britain |
| 09:00.55 | Shirik | I'm not usually this malicious, but when people do stuff like this, it makes me furious |
| 09:00.57 | Xinhuan | where Rushter is |
| 09:01.00 | Xinhuan | well not 12 noon |
| 09:01.04 | Xinhuan | but 10am rather |
| 09:01.05 | Antiarc | 2 AM! File is still available for download, 17 minutes after it was promised to be pulled >_> |
| 09:01.07 | Shirik | This is my field, I don't want people like him corrupting it |
| 09:01.35 | Shirik | It is people like him that give the real hackers a bad reputation |
| 09:01.36 | Xinhuan | sigh, ever since S3 started, every 5 min there is a new gold selling spambot in IF |
| 09:01.52 | tekcub | go to sexodar |
| 09:02.13 | Xinhuan | can't |
| 09:02.18 | Xinhuan | i lose gold for leaving IF |
| 09:02.19 | tekcub | darny then |
| 09:02.39 | Xinhuan | 2g per portal, 3g per gem cut, 10g per epic gem cut, 2-15g per enchant click |
| 09:02.50 | tekcub | pfft |
| 09:02.52 | tekcub | whiner |
| 09:02.55 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 09:03.11 | Antiarc | Shirik: I like how his reponse to telling you about it is "Why didn't you tell anyone about it?" |
| 09:03.18 | Antiarc | This is grade-A comedy right here. |
| 09:03.22 | Xinhuan | so first 50 mails in my mailbox == 564.28g :) |
| 09:03.24 | Cairenn | Shirik: yes, it did - I saw it hit in the wowhead channel |
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| 09:03.33 | Antiarc | There's a wowhead channel? |
| 09:03.35 | Xinhuan | whoa whats the wowhead channel? |
| 09:03.37 | Shirik | Antiarc: Fixed that post, thanks |
| 09:03.49 | Diao | @wowhead |
| 09:03.50 | Diao | #wowhead* |
| 09:03.52 | Shirik | stupid character limits =( |
| 09:03.53 | Diao | on freenode |
| 09:04.57 | Jaxon | I find it amusing that Shirik's signiture on the WoW Forums links to a domain titled "conspiracy-ui.com" |
| 09:05.08 | Xinhuan | 634.65g in my next 50 mails in mailbox |
| 09:05.21 | Xinhuan | they shoud allow more than 50 mails visible at a time grrr |
| 09:05.22 | Kimina | so either incgamers is down or he banned me finally |
| 09:05.26 | Kimina | Jaxon: That's my UI :) |
| 09:05.29 | Kimina | well, it's in progress |
| 09:05.31 | Antiarc | It's been up/down all night |
| 09:05.58 | Kimina | time to load up tor to see what happens |
| 09:06.07 | Xinhuan | i think site died again |
| 09:06.12 | Xinhuan | no wait it didn't |
| 09:06.15 | Xinhuan | no reply to your post |
| 09:06.21 | Kerafyrm | uhhh... |
| 09:07.02 | Kerafyrm | http://www.google.com/gwt/n |
| 09:07.06 | Kerafyrm | google proxy :) |
| 09:07.15 | Kimina | I'll use that as a second choice :) |
| 09:07.20 | Kimina | in case he bans my tor server |
| 09:07.39 | Xinhuan | hey you didn't quote my post ;d |
| 09:07.50 | Kimina | I'm out of space =( |
| 09:08.57 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:11.00 | Jaxon | If I still had any addons I maintained, I certainly wouldn't want them associated with this site after all this BS |
| 09:11.16 | tekcub | and this is the second round of BS :) |
| 09:11.32 | Chompers | did i miss something big? |
| 09:11.32 | Jaxon | Thats what I mean |
| 09:11.38 | Xinhuan | i've started moving all my addons from incgamers to wowace last month |
| 09:11.45 | Xinhuan | i didn't delete them from incgamers though |
| 09:11.55 | tekcub | I really find it funny cause they act all "we're better than people with goldseller ads" ... and whose site has had the most keylogger incursions? |
| 09:13.59 | Antiarc | Chompers: Keylogger/trojan in the wowinterface UICentral program |
| 09:16.39 | Cairenn | Antiarc: WRONG |
| 09:16.45 | Cairenn | incgamers, NOT WoWI |
| 09:16.46 | Antiarc | Well |
| 09:16.51 | Antiarc | DOH >_< |
| 09:16.55 | Antiarc | ui.worldofwar.net |
| 09:17.17 | Cairenn | aye |
| 09:17.17 | Antiarc | I made that same mistake earlier |
| 09:17.17 | Antiarc | I get them mentally mixed up. Apologies :/ |
| 09:17.17 | Cairenn | (sorry, didn't mean to jump down your throat) |
| 09:17.17 | Antiarc | Hehe, no prob |
| 09:17.18 | Antiarc | I was stupid and deserved it :D |
| 09:17.28 | Antiarc | But yes. It's incgamers, the same folks that ripped off Wowace wholesale last week. |
| 09:17.49 | tekcub | oh oh oh |
| 09:17.50 | tekcub | BAM |
| 09:17.53 | tekcub | I'm an ass |
| 09:17.59 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 09:18.13 | Kimina | It was totally Cairenn |
| 09:18.17 | Kimina | she's making evil viruses |
| 09:18.18 | Cairenn | :( |
| 09:18.33 | Antiarc | Well |
| 09:18.36 | Kimina | then she hacked incgamers, stuffed it into their executable |
| 09:18.39 | Antiarc | We all know that Cairenn is evil incarnate |
| 09:18.42 | Kimina | that way people leave their site and go to wowinterface.com |
| 09:18.42 | Kimina | instead |
| 09:18.46 | Antiarc | Bent on world domination |
| 09:18.49 | tekcub | cair cair |
| 09:18.52 | tekcub | read my post |
| 09:18.56 | tekcub | I want a cookie |
| 09:19.03 | tekcub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&postId=31679845089&sid=1#28 |
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| 09:20.13 | Kimina | ~hug tekcub |
| 09:20.14 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs tekcub |
| 09:20.20 | Kerafyrm | ./cheer tekcub |
| 09:20.22 | tekcub | ~fuck purl |
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| 09:22.10 | starlon | So wowui is distributing a keylogger? |
| 09:22.36 | Antiarc | That's the gist of it |
| 09:22.36 | tekcub | long and the short of it, yes, they were |
| 09:22.39 | Corgan | lua> print 'Wieners' |
| 09:22.39 | lua_bot | Corgan: Wieners |
| 09:22.57 | tekcub | and, as usualy, they're being dicks in response to people pointing it out :) |
| 09:23.08 | starlon | heh |
| 09:23.34 | Xinhuan | hey Kerafyrm, your guild name is LaF |
| 09:23.36 | starlon | Is there a discussion somewhere? I read Antiarc saying he was making a post. |
| 09:23.43 | Xinhuan | are you by any chance related to the same guild from Earth:2025? |
| 09:23.44 | tekcub | whereas, someone with half a brain, like Cairenn, would pull the file as fast as she could |
| 09:23.53 | tekcub | then find out what happened before saying anything |
| 09:23.57 | Cairenn | immediately |
| 09:24.03 | Cairenn | it'd be gone |
| 09:24.03 | Kerafyrm | new reply on inc site |
| 09:24.05 | tekcub | so that she doesn't look like an idiot |
| 09:24.09 | Cairenn | and we've done precisely that |
| 09:24.17 | Kerafyrm | Xinhuan: Aye, La Familia |
| 09:24.22 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&postId=31679347235&sid=1#29 and http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405983&page=3 |
| 09:24.35 | Xinhuan | hmm i dont think i know you |
| 09:24.36 | Xinhuan | but |
| 09:24.40 | Kerafyrm | and to answer your other question |
| 09:24.42 | Kerafyrm | which got buried |
| 09:24.42 | Kerafyrm | no |
| 09:24.52 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 09:24.54 | Xinhuan | so not related? |
| 09:24.57 | starlon | Thanks |
| 09:25.00 | Xinhuan | ok :) |
| 09:25.04 | Kerafyrm | its possible.. we've branched out quite a bit from EQ1 |
| 09:25.08 | Kerafyrm | but I don't play that game |
| 09:25.18 | Xinhuan | ah ok |
| 09:25.36 | Xinhuan | nah the laf there wasn't branched from eq1 ;p |
| 09:26.30 | Kerafyrm | there ya go :P |
| 09:26.44 | Kerafyrm | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4068137&postcount=23 |
| 09:27.25 | NoLife3 | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1781668406&sid=1 |
| 09:27.28 | NoLife3 | fun |
| 09:28.10 | NoLife3 | naked taurens ewww |
| 09:28.16 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 09:28.23 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56229 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 09:28.23 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:28.23 | CIA-8 | - First part of BC instances revision |
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| 09:32.26 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56230 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 09:32.26 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 09:32.26 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 09:32.31 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56231 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.tw.lua: |
| 09:32.31 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 09:32.31 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56232 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 09:32.39 | CIA-8 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 09:33.22 | Xinhuan | you haven't reproduced Rushter's latest post on the ui forums yet :) |
| 09:33.34 | wereHamster | "Use our 100% free, spyware-free tools to install and manage .." - they don't mention that it's virus free! |
| 09:33.40 | Kimina | Xinhuan: Want to do it? |
| 09:33.46 | Kimina | I feel like I'm spamming the thread if I keep it up |
| 09:33.52 | Xinhuan | actually i'm preparing to fly to hyjal summit |
| 09:34.49 | Xinhuan | and your 2 nicks confuse me |
| 09:36.40 | Chompers | wonder if i can run mirc from university, kinda want to keep up with this virus stuff |
| 09:36.58 | Xinhuan | anyone encountering that silly bug where nothing happens when you click on a flightpath to fly to at the flightmaster? |
| 09:37.09 | Xinhuan | then you have to walk away and retalk to the flightmaster |
| 09:37.40 | Antiarc | Rushster: Client IS removed for the fourth time. |
| 09:37.45 | Antiarc | Me: You mean the client I can currently download from http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2106 ? |
| 09:37.45 | Cairenn | omg, someone is now reporting that they got the keylogger from it a MONTH?! ago? |
| 09:37.55 | Cairenn | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4068143&postcount=26 |
| 09:38.05 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 09:38.43 | Xinhuan | .. horde-controls summoning stone zzz |
| 09:38.49 | Cheads | Antiarc that download doesn't work here |
| 09:39.01 | nevcairiel | pvp server ftl Xinhuan :P |
| 09:39.12 | Xinhuan | nah we're organising a mass rez and kill them all |
| 09:39.14 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 09:39.17 | Xinhuan | pvp server ftw! |
| 09:39.31 | Antiarc | Cheads: Works just fine here. I just downloaded my third copy. |
| 09:39.51 | Cairenn | Antiarc: I just tried, couldn't get it |
| 09:39.52 | Cheads | ok |
| 09:40.05 | Antiarc | Hm. What do you get? |
| 09:40.09 | Cheads | I just get a "The webpage cannot be found" |
| 09:40.20 | Antiarc | That's just the server being flaky, I suspect |
| 09:40.22 | Cairenn | "The requested URL /uploads/UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip was not found on this server." |
| 09:40.23 | Antiarc | It's been doing that all night |
| 09:40.34 | Antiarc | Interesting. I was able to download it after making that post. |
| 09:40.36 | CIA-8 | 03jncl * r56233 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:40.36 | CIA-8 | Skinner: Updated GuildBankUI, Skillet & Waterfall skins (thanks to rp) |
| 09:40.36 | CIA-8 | - Applied st0nedpenguins changes to the Buffalo skin |
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| 09:41.00 | Cheads | Antiarc all other downloads I've tried there(just tried to download 3 mods) works fine |
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| 09:41.18 | Antiarc | http://wowuibeta.incgamers.com/uploads/UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip |
| 09:41.20 | Antiarc | That one? |
| 09:41.21 | Cheads | maybe the file is cached somewhere =) |
| 09:41.24 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 09:41.29 | Xinhuan | you are so sneaky Antiarc |
| 09:41.31 | Cheads | Antiarc yes, that doesn't work here |
| 09:41.36 | Antiarc | Huh. Works just fine here. |
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| 09:41.41 | Kalroth | Not Found |
| 09:41.41 | Cairenn | Antiarc: can't get that one either |
| 09:41.41 | Kalroth | The requested URL /uploads/UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip was not found on this server. |
| 09:41.47 | Cairenn | ditto |
| 09:41.50 | Cheads | it's cached somewhere then, Antiarc |
| 09:41.52 | Antiarc | 404 in IE |
| 09:41.55 | Antiarc | So yeah, cached. Odd. |
| 09:42.18 | Ellipsis | you would open something on that site in IE? |
| 09:42.19 | Kalroth | Now you have to find us a working link! |
| 09:42.33 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: I wouldn't touch it without FF + no script :p |
| 09:42.41 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:42.44 | Ellipsis | IE is just asking for it >_> |
| 09:42.57 | Antiarc | I'm fine downloading a ZIP directly with IE, yes :P |
| 09:43.04 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't be |
| 09:43.10 | Ellipsis | if windows thinks it can open them, what's next?! |
| 09:43.27 | Cairenn | Antiarc: (I know you aren't gonna like this, but ...) you do kinda owe him an apology on that part |
| 09:43.53 | Kalroth | Antiarc: You shouldn't be. IE got a tendency to go "oh, you're so silly, this .zip isn't a real zip file, it's actually an executeable. Surely you wanted to run it!" |
| 09:43.56 | Antiarc | I edited my post and replaced it with a post mentioning I was mistaken |
| 09:44.09 | Antiarc | Kalroth: Hah, you think I have IE set to autorun programs? :P |
| 09:44.11 | Cairenn | oh, and tekcub? /cookie |
| 09:44.22 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Well you use IE to begin with, so ... :P |
| 09:44.32 | Antiarc | Only because I have to test my CSS in it. *grumble* |
| 09:44.42 | Kalroth | Oh okay, fair enough |
| 09:44.45 | Kalroth | I use uhmm |
| 09:44.45 | Kimina | wait, don't tell me it's not available anymore |
| 09:44.46 | Kimina | that's not funny |
| 09:44.51 | Kimina | does anyone still have it? |
| 09:44.54 | Antiarc | Of course |
| 09:44.57 | Antiarc | Need a copy? |
| 09:44.58 | Kimina | I need it >< |
| 09:45.04 | Kalroth | http://browsershots.org/ is hot for testing pages |
| 09:45.07 | wereHamster | Kalroth, I'd touch it with wget or even nc only :P |
| 09:45.11 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip |
| 09:45.14 | Kimina | <3 |
| 09:45.14 | Kalroth | Especially if you get the commercial service |
| 09:45.30 | Antiarc | Woo, VPC is online. Let's trash this windows install! |
| 09:45.32 | Ellipsis | http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php for IE rendering imo |
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| 09:45.52 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: Sweet, thanks |
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| 09:45.55 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56234 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:45.55 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:45.55 | CIA-8 | -Added Essence of Souls to constant (only en&tw) |
| 09:45.55 | CIA-8 | -Change Essence of Souls BabbleBoss to AL |
| 09:46.00 | Xinhuan | whats the point of hosting that Antiarc |
| 09:46.09 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: For people that want to pick it apart |
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| 09:46.25 | Antiarc | And because I have samba access to my web server so I can just copy stuff from my computer over the LAN to publish it online |
| 09:46.31 | Kalroth | oh, it's a setup.exe to begin with |
| 09:46.38 | Antiarc | Extract it in 7zip |
| 09:46.41 | Antiarc | YOu'll get the source files |
| 09:46.55 | Kalroth | nullsoft installer, aye |
| 09:46.57 | Antiarc | It's a Nullsoft installer which is just an archive with a scripted install program on top of it |
| 09:48.11 | Kalroth | yeah, inside is nsis.package which is just a zip file |
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| 09:48.22 | Kalroth | it contains the goodies, I think |
| 09:48.34 | Kalroth | nm |
| 09:48.42 | Kalroth | was NSIS's own stuff :P |
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| 09:49.04 | Ozguli | how on earth would rupture be more effective than evis? |
| 09:49.11 | Ozguli | rupture dmg -> 1k over 16 seconds |
| 09:49.20 | Ozguli | evis -> 1.3k instant |
| 09:49.24 | Ozguli | can crit |
| 09:49.27 | Antiarc | 25 energy vs 35 energy |
| 09:49.34 | Kimina | Antiarc: It's taking too long to extract this thing you told me to get =( |
| 09:49.35 | Antiarc | Also, Mangle boosts Rupture |
| 09:49.43 | Ozguli | meh |
| 09:49.46 | Kimina | eh |
| 09:49.48 | Kimina | I think it gave up |
| 09:49.48 | Kimina | wtf? |
| 09:49.56 | Antiarc | What gave up? |
| 09:50.01 | Diao | rupture ignores armor |
| 09:50.04 | Diao | evis doesn't |
| 09:50.05 | Kimina | extracting the vhd |
| 09:50.23 | Ozguli | but if it's a boss fight, there will be sunders anyway |
| 09:50.28 | Kimina | oh nm there it is |
| 09:50.29 | Antiarc | Rupture is still more efficient |
| 09:50.39 | Ozguli | and in pvp I need to use stuns |
| 09:50.47 | Kalroth | heh, ScreenshotConverter.exe leeches http://wowui.incgamersi.com/updata[removethis].exe |
| 09:50.48 | Antiarc | If you're trispec hemo with serrated blades, rupture blows evis out of the wate |
| 09:50.49 | Ozguli | incapacitates |
| 09:50.50 | Antiarc | water* |
| 09:51.13 | Antiarc | Well, rupture is more efficient, not always the best choice overall |
| 09:51.25 | Antiarc | In PVE, it's your preferred damage finisher. That changes in PVP, of course. |
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| 09:53.00 | Kalroth | updata.exe looks rather suspecious |
| 09:53.09 | Kalroth | it links to wzcsvbc.dll |
| 09:53.17 | Kalroth | which is a trojan .dll |
| 09:53.24 | Antiarc | yup |
| 09:53.27 | nevcairiel | Hmm my NOD32 didnt find anything in that |
| 09:53.28 | Silviu- | Is there any addon that shows AFTER combat how long a debuff was on a mob ? example demo shout |
| 09:53.34 | Kalroth | so in short, it's a trojan installer |
| 09:53.34 | Kimina | wheee |
| 09:53.40 | Kimina | virtual pc up and running |
| 09:54.01 | Xinhuan | don't think so Silviu- |
| 09:54.02 | Antiarc | I've got Filemon and Ethereal up and running |
| 09:54.05 | Antiarc | Anything else I'll need? |
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| 09:54.17 | Silviu- | Oky, ty :) |
| 09:54.53 | Cairenn | you guys may find this interesting (proof that they did, in fact, know about it over a month ago): |
| 09:54.54 | Cairenn | (4:51:18 AM) Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366664907&postId=24746651170&sid=1#2 |
| 09:54.54 | Cairenn | (4:51:25 AM) Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366704160&sid=1 |
| 09:54.54 | Cairenn | (4:51:32 AM) cladhaire: wow |
| 09:54.54 | Cairenn | (4:51:40 AM) Kimina: sigh |
| 09:54.55 | Cairenn | (4:51:49 AM) cladhaire: reading the incgamers shit |
| 09:54.57 | Cairenn | (4:51:58 AM) Cairenn: at least 2 threads over a month old where it was originally discovered and reported |
| 09:54.59 | Cairenn | (4:52:15 AM) Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366704065&sid=1 |
| 09:55.01 | Cairenn | (4:52:17 AM) Cairenn: 3 |
| 09:55.03 | Cairenn | (4:53:16 AM) Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366574173&sid=1 |
| 09:55.12 | Antiarc | Which channel is that? |
| 09:55.22 | Cairenn | one you can't see ;) |
| 09:55.25 | Antiarc | Oooh, okay. |
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| 09:55.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 09:55.38 | Antiarc | I'm checking all my tabs for that convo and didn't see it :P |
| 09:55.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:55.48 | Cairenn | staff channel, actually |
| 09:55.52 | Cairenn | sowwy |
| 09:55.53 | Antiarc | Makes sense |
| 09:55.53 | Xinhuan | is that the ace3 dev channel ;p |
| 09:55.59 | Antiarc | Can I be the wowi morale officer? |
| 09:56.04 | nevcairiel | nah we dont have shirik in there Xinhuan :P |
| 09:56.07 | Kalroth | Antiarc: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19276902-Trojan-My-hijackthis-log-re-World-of-warcraft~start=20 describes the setup file pretty well |
| 09:56.11 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: no, MMOI staff |
| 09:56.17 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 09:56.22 | Antiarc | Thanks, Kalroth |
| 09:56.29 | Kimina | Antiarc: I don't usually use VPC, what's the easiest way to get WoW over there? |
| 09:56.41 | Xinhuan | brb, gonna turn off this before it distracts me and doomfire kils me ;p |
| 09:56.42 | Antiarc | You can set up a shared folder between the VPC and your host machine |
| 09:56.45 | Antiarc | Then just xfer stuff that way |
| 09:56.56 | Antiarc | I'm just gonna use a calc.exe renamed to wow.exe though |
| 09:56.56 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: hahah |
| 09:56.58 | Antiarc | Probably easier :P |
| 09:57.00 | Kimina | like shared networking? |
| 09:57.16 | Antiarc | something like that. I forget the specifics. |
| 09:57.18 | Kalroth | Kimina: You make a shared folder on the VPC, it's mapped |
| 09:57.31 | Silviu- | Antiarc have a link to Uicentral ? want to see if my Avira detects that is a virus |
| 09:57.33 | Kalroth | Edit -> Settings -> Shared Folders |
| 09:57.36 | Kimina | oh I see it |
| 09:57.37 | Kimina | thanks |
| 09:57.44 | nevcairiel | Mm whats the recommended antivirus lately detection-wise? |
| 09:57.52 | Silviu- | Kaspersky :/ |
| 09:57.53 | Antiarc | Silviu-: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip |
| 09:57.54 | Kalroth | AVG doesn't find anything |
| 09:58.01 | Antiarc | AntiVir caught it for me |
| 09:58.03 | nevcairiel | NOD32 didnt find anything either |
| 09:58.46 | Ozguli | I like Avast!. |
| 09:58.47 | Xinhuan | if i wrote a trojan, i would have made sure |
| 09:58.55 | Xinhuan | no virus checker |
| 09:59.00 | Silviu- | Avira found nothing ;( |
| 09:59.03 | Xinhuan | can detect it |
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| 09:59.32 | nevcairiel | some heuristic checks are pretty smart |
| 09:59.33 | Ozguli | Xinhuan and that there would be no updates? |
| 09:59.41 | Industrial | simple: dont run setup.exe with mods |
| 09:59.42 | Silviu- | 0 viruses and/or unwanted programs were found |
| 09:59.44 | Ozguli | just make sure the whole program won't even run |
| 09:59.56 | Industrial | I know I never do, so I'm fine :) |
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| 09:59.59 | Kalroth | it is a trojan for sure though |
| 10:00.02 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 10:00.12 | Kalroth | "ScreenhotConverter.exe" |
| 10:00.18 | Kalroth | LOL SPELING EROR |
| 10:00.20 | Xinhuan | but my point stands, i would have at least tried to make sure most major virus scanners can't detect it |
| 10:00.28 | Xinhuan | if i wrote a trojan |
| 10:00.38 | Diao | that's generally what most people do |
| 10:00.41 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: Of course |
| 10:00.42 | Diao | :P |
| 10:00.54 | nevcairiel | what most people do, is take some finished virus/trojan und use that |
| 10:00.57 | nevcairiel | *and |
| 10:01.02 | nevcairiel | thats called script kiddies :P |
| 10:01.06 | Kalroth | But most major virus scanners share new virii, so once you're discovered, you'd have to rewrite everything |
| 10:01.07 | Diao | i mean |
| 10:01.23 | Diao | what most actual virus/trojan coders do :p |
| 10:01.51 | Ozguli | wank |
| 10:01.52 | Xinhuan | ok i managed to decurse someone in my party but wiped when someone else died to Air Burst |
| 10:02.03 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: haha |
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| 10:02.58 | nevcairiel | second time on him if memory serves Xinhuan, right? |
| 10:03.00 | Antiarc | Yup, there it is |
| 10:03.04 | Xinhuan | nah 3rd |
| 10:03.07 | Antiarc | The trojan gets executed when the installer runs |
| 10:03.09 | Xinhuan | killed him twice already |
| 10:03.11 | Antiarc | Filemon sees it loud and clear |
| 10:03.12 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:03.23 | Kalroth | Antiarc: it a pretty elaborate trojan though, they bought the incgamersi.com domain for it |
| 10:03.26 | Xinhuan | 2nd kill was double mage helm |
| 10:03.30 | Xinhuan | our mages are happy :D |
| 10:03.46 | tekcub | yea, it's quite obvious they targetted them directly |
| 10:03.47 | Xinhuan | but S3 helms all look like t6 helm |
| 10:03.48 | Xinhuan | so |
| 10:03.51 | Xinhuan | i'm upset :D |
| 10:04.00 | Diao | different color though :O |
| 10:04.03 | Kalroth | Domain name: incgamersi.com |
| 10:04.03 | Kalroth | Registrant Contact: |
| 10:04.03 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.03 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.03 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.04 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.05 | Xinhuan | its still purple |
| 10:04.05 | Antiarc | Okay! Who wants logs? |
| 10:04.06 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.08 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.10 | Diao | oh? |
| 10:04.12 | tekcub | which makes one think someone on the inside isn't as angelic as Rushie thinks his staff is |
| 10:04.20 | Antiarc | I have Filemon and Wireshark logs of this thing in action now |
| 10:04.41 | Silviu- | Antiarc show us |
| 10:05.22 | *** join/#wowace vileP_ (n=chatzill@c-71-198-18-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:05.48 | Antiarc | Hrm, okay, one sec |
| 10:05.57 | Antiarc | I have to figure out how to get this off of this machine without using a password :P |
| 10:06.25 | greppy | Antiarc: ssh keys :) |
| 10:06.35 | Cairenn | (5:02:29 AM) Cairenn: what amazes me, though, is that it wasn't caught in the UI forums, since I KNOW we've seen posts in there saying that people were having problems with their WTF folders resetting |
| 10:06.35 | Cairenn | (5:02:50 AM) Cairenn: the info was disseminated in the tech help forum, but it never made it over to the UI forum |
| 10:06.35 | Cairenn | (5:02:57 AM) Cairenn: until now |
| 10:07.33 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/uicentral/FilemonLog.LOG |
| 10:07.38 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/uicentral/uicentral-trojan.pcap |
| 10:07.41 | Antiarc | Go nuts. |
| 10:10.35 | Antiarc | Oh wow |
| 10:10.40 | Antiarc | The timestamps on these dlls is from 2004 |
| 10:10.55 | Antiarc | Anyone want the very dangerous and bad trojan DLLs? |
| 10:11.22 | nevcairiel | sure, dlls by themself are not that dangerous |
| 10:11.35 | Kimina | Antiarc: um |
| 10:11.41 | Kimina | ScreenhotConverter.exe is missing |
| 10:11.52 | Antiarc | Pretty sure it's there |
| 10:11.58 | Antiarc | I used the same zip for my VPC |
| 10:12.13 | Kimina | I just ran the setup.exe.. |
| 10:12.24 | Kimina | does it get deleted after it's run? |
| 10:12.26 | Antiarc | If you use Filemon, you'll see it being executed |
| 10:12.27 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 10:12.31 | Kimina | ah |
| 10:12.33 | Cheads | ScreenhotConverter.exe rocks, makes your crappy screenshots look sexy! |
| 10:12.34 | Kimina | I didn't know that |
| 10:13.05 | Antiarc | Check the filemon log |
| 10:13.09 | Antiarc | It shows the full lifecycle |
| 10:13.49 | Kimina | oh wow you're right |
| 10:13.51 | Kimina | I already see it in wireshark |
| 10:13.52 | Antiarc | What is C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL? |
| 10:13.55 | Kimina | it connected to that chinese site, etc. |
| 10:14.21 | CIA-8 | 03jerry * r56235 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data.toc Talented_Data_zhCN.lua): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 10:14.34 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: mail iirc |
| 10:14.48 | Antiarc | Why the hell would it access that DLL? o.0 |
| 10:14.55 | Kimina | Antiarc: Filemon log? |
| 10:15.02 | nevcairiel | notify someone that you got haxored? |
| 10:15.10 | Diao | input method manager |
| 10:15.21 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/uicentral/FilemonLog.LOG |
| 10:15.27 | Kimina | Antiarc: For keylogging, naturally |
| 10:15.31 | Kimina | that's a great place to inject some code |
| 10:15.32 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/uicentral/uicentral-trojan.pcap <-- Wireshark log |
| 10:16.00 | Xinhuan | dammit 38% wipe |
| 10:16.06 | Xinhuan | hunter died |
| 10:16.11 | Xinhuan | then pally died |
| 10:16.14 | Xinhuan | then 5 ppl died |
| 10:16.26 | Cheads | .. on what? =) |
| 10:16.27 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 10:16.28 | nevcairiel | first death usually dooms you |
| 10:16.31 | Xinhuan | archimonde :( |
| 10:16.36 | nevcairiel | unless you're lucky |
| 10:16.42 | Silviu- | Hunters always dies at us too ;) |
| 10:16.45 | Silviu- | and melee shaman |
| 10:16.45 | Cheads | oh... only killed Lurker here =( |
| 10:16.46 | Silviu- | :P |
| 10:16.46 | Xinhuan | hunter death aren't too bad |
| 10:16.49 | Xinhuan | its a crap soul charge |
| 10:16.57 | nevcairiel | wasnt hunter the mana burn? |
| 10:17.00 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 10:17.03 | Xinhuan | so its a crap charge |
| 10:17.12 | Xinhuan | the mage/pally/druid ones are a killer |
| 10:17.14 | nevcairiel | that one sucks imho |
| 10:17.15 | Xinhuan | 4-sec silence |
| 10:17.23 | nevcairiel | i prefer the warrior charge |
| 10:17.44 | Xinhuan | pfft on your word play ;d |
| 10:17.52 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:18.05 | tekcub | ugh |
| 10:18.15 | tekcub | "straitboy first time" porn is so boring |
| 10:18.21 | tekcub | even when they're bears |
| 10:18.26 | Cheads | are there anything like the good old neffy class calls in TBC? |
| 10:18.29 | Antiarc | Kimina: I'm not seeing any connections to 218.85.132.165 in my wireshard logs. |
| 10:18.30 | *** join/#wowace Dotted^1 (n=Dotted@82.129.20.243) |
| 10:18.49 | Xinhuan | aww rushter closed the thread |
| 10:19.02 | Antiarc | Wait |
| 10:19.10 | Antiarc | Rushster closed a thread that reflected badly on him? |
| 10:19.12 | Antiarc | :O |
| 10:19.15 | Kimina | haha |
| 10:19.17 | Antiarc | :(============) |
| 10:19.18 | Xinhuan | "As most users here have low post counts I am assuming we will see an influx of abuse and trolling in this thread. So to keep things civil while I check this out I am going to lock this thread up and will re-open it when I have done my checks this morning." |
| 10:19.18 | Kimina | Antiarc: What's that IP? |
| 10:19.21 | Xinhuan | he said he'll reopen it |
| 10:19.23 | tekcub | closed, not deleted |
| 10:19.26 | Xinhuan | when he finishes his research |
| 10:19.28 | Antiarc | Kimina: wowui.incgamersi.com |
| 10:19.31 | Orionshock | anyone know what the point to heroics is? |
| 10:19.35 | Kimina | ah |
| 10:19.38 | Cheads | Deathknight class call will be deathcoil =) |
| 10:19.38 | Xinhuan | that is to his credit at least |
| 10:19.55 | Kimina | surely they wouldn't have it come straight back to them |
| 10:19.58 | Kimina | that's too easily traceable :) |
| 10:20.11 | Antiarc | I meant for the updata.exe download |
| 10:20.46 | Kimina | oh I definitely did |
| 10:21.19 | Xinhuan | what does updata log? |
| 10:21.25 | Antiarc | It's the payload |
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| 10:22.51 | Xinhuan | how does the trojan prevent WTF folder settings from being written to btw? |
| 10:23.00 | Xinhuan | that sounds like a silly thing to me |
| 10:23.02 | Antiarc | It wipes out your WTF folder every time you start WoW |
| 10:23.03 | Kerafyrm | sigh... oil goes up again |
| 10:23.08 | nevcairiel | set the files be readonly |
| 10:23.11 | nevcairiel | or that |
| 10:23.12 | Antiarc | Presumably so that you have to enter your username |
| 10:23.16 | Antiarc | In case you had it cached |
| 10:23.18 | Xinhuan | doh |
| 10:23.20 | Shirik|Telnet | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/096c1edb0d141f22998bd477fd16962f.jpg |
| 10:23.32 | Shirik|Telnet | what a pain to type out... |
| 10:23.33 | Xinhuan | sounds stupid, because it makes the trojan presence obvious |
| 10:23.50 | tekcub | a smart one would turn off the saving |
| 10:23.55 | tekcub | and purge only tha |
| 10:24.02 | tekcub | *that |
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| 10:24.26 | Kimina | now I'm going to start up WoW |
| 10:24.35 | Kimina | and see what happens when I transmit a fake password and username |
| 10:24.45 | Kuja^ | ahaha then i knew what prevented a friend of mine saving his settings.... |
| 10:25.21 | Kuja^ | any more info on that? just got back home |
| 10:25.39 | nevcairiel | tell your friend to change his password if he didnt already |
| 10:25.53 | tekcub | from a clean comp |
| 10:26.07 | Kalroth | Antiarc: Yup, like I pasted a while back |
| 10:26.19 | Kalroth | "heh, ScreenhotConverter.exe leeches http://wowui.incgamersi.com/updata[removethis].exe" |
| 10:26.35 | Antiarc | Someone recommend a disassembler to me |
| 10:26.39 | Kalroth | IDA |
| 10:26.41 | Kalroth | hands down |
| 10:26.47 | CIA-8 | 03adirelle * r56236 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.toc: SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed X-Embeds and OptDeps in .toc. |
| 10:27.01 | Kalroth | http://www.datarescue.com/idabase/ |
| 10:27.26 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 10:27.34 | Kalroth | I used to spend hours in IDA when trying to hook new stuff in Asheron's Call :) |
| 10:27.51 | Antiarc | I'm gonna crack open those DLLs and take a peek inside |
| 10:27.55 | omega | omg, you ev0l h00ksor! |
| 10:28.05 | Kalroth | omega: It was legal in AC :) |
| 10:28.19 | Adirelle | damn, I got used to the fact that AceLibrary-2.0 loaded the disembedded libraries on demand |
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| 10:28.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower|ZzZz] by ChanServ |
| 10:28.32 | Kalroth | We communicated regulary with the developers, even found and fixed a few exploits for them :) |
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| 10:28.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 10:28.47 | omega | nice |
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| 10:29.18 | Kalroth | Hell, I even got a patch for a client bug from them, to test etc. |
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| 10:30.04 | Kalroth | http://ac.stratics.com/content/news/archive/arc80.php |
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| 10:33.13 | Antiarc | I think that mouse.dll is the actual process hook, while the w dll is the logger/phone home |
| 10:33.35 | Kimina | Antiarc: Disassembler? |
| 10:33.38 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 10:33.44 | Kimina | I have a whole kit for you to use if you want :) |
| 10:33.53 | Kimina | lots of fun stuff |
| 10:33.55 | Antiarc | Heh, it's been so long I probably wouldn't know how to use it :P |
| 10:34.03 | Kimina | Well I can recommend two good utilities in there |
| 10:34.03 | Antiarc | I'm stumbling about in here mostly blind : |
| 10:34.16 | Kimina | ollydbg and w32dasm |
| 10:34.26 | Kalroth | <3 ollydbg |
| 10:34.28 | Kimina | both of which can analyze the assembly code and then make it a bit more readable if possible |
| 10:34.51 | Kalroth | I loved the conditional breakpoints in ollydbg, was the first debugger to do it properly |
| 10:35.11 | Xinhuan | so we subbed in a shaman to get tremor totem |
| 10:35.20 | Xinhuan | and he proceeds to die in the first 30 secs two attempts in a row |
| 10:35.22 | nevcairiel | we generally do archi with 3 shamans |
| 10:35.23 | Xinhuan | subbed him right out |
| 10:35.28 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 10:35.34 | nevcairiel | makes it so much easier |
| 10:35.42 | Kimina | virtual PC is very POed right now |
| 10:35.45 | Kalroth | We learned Archi with 1 shaman, so when we got 3, it was pretty much a free kill |
| 10:36.06 | Thrae | www.virtualbox.org |
| 10:36.25 | nevcairiel | and i am the luckiest guy in the fight anyway, the priests keep a fearward up on me all the time :D |
| 10:36.50 | Xinhuan | what class are you |
| 10:36.53 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: MT? :P |
| 10:37.00 | nevcairiel | nah, the MT can stance-dance |
| 10:37.13 | nevcairiel | i am a resto druid, healing/decursing during fear |
| 10:37.23 | Kalroth | Ah okay |
| 10:37.32 | Kalroth | Well being horde makes Archi a lot easier |
| 10:37.39 | Kalroth | 3 UD rogues, 3-4 UD mages |
| 10:37.50 | Kalroth | melee doesn't need tremor really |
| 10:38.04 | nevcairiel | rogues do fine with fear even without being UD |
| 10:38.12 | Kalroth | most of the time, yea |
| 10:38.17 | Kalroth | but it's a nice backup |
| 10:38.18 | nevcairiel | vanish/cos/insignia rotation |
| 10:38.25 | Kalroth | incase CLoS doesn't work |
| 10:38.25 | Antiarc | What's this urlmon.dll? |
| 10:38.28 | Kalroth | 90% chance only, etc |
| 10:38.35 | Kalroth | Antiarc: legit, I think |
| 10:38.39 | Antiarc | Yeah, I think so |
| 10:38.46 | Kalroth | http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/urlmon/ |
| 10:38.52 | Kalroth | "urlmon.dll is a module that contains functions used by Microsoft OLE (Object Linking and Embedding)." |
| 10:39.48 | nevcairiel | unless some trojan created a second urlmon.dll in another directory |
| 10:39.49 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 10:40.04 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: of course :) |
| 10:40.09 | Antiarc | I'm looking for the actual key hooking code |
| 10:40.10 | Kalroth | also http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-psw_w32_onlinegames.shtml |
| 10:40.18 | Antiarc | Haven't found it yet, but I found the updater and the WTF-killer |
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| 10:40.20 | Kalroth | "Also, if a system debugger is detected, the trojan does not attempt to steal data." |
| 10:40.44 | Kalroth | That's what I found too, it detects debuggers |
| 10:40.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:40.58 | nevcairiel | smart thing |
| 10:40.58 | Kalroth | IsDebuggerPresent() |
| 10:41.20 | Kalroth | Not really, you can just hook the API and make IsDebuggerPresent() return false all the time :p |
| 10:41.57 | nevcairiel | mm i didnt know there was a api like that |
| 10:42.34 | Kalroth | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms680345.aspx |
| 10:42.41 | Kalroth | "Determines whether the calling process is being debugged by a user-mode debugger." |
| 10:42.43 | Antiarc | It's writing something to the WoW process memory |
| 10:42.48 | Antiarc | Which is very interesting. |
| 10:43.07 | Kalroth | Antiarc: It's most likely hooking the input functions, it needs that to snatch the login + password |
| 10:43.10 | nevcairiel | and i thought wow detects stuff like that |
| 10:43.25 | Kalroth | warden is pretty weak, the scans it does is very basic |
| 10:43.25 | Xinhuan | not wow, its the launcher that detects it |
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| 10:43.34 | neenee | Hm. Stamina or Armour for a cat? |
| 10:43.40 | Xinhuan | half the userbase doesn't use the launcher |
| 10:43.54 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: Warden detects most too |
| 10:44.08 | nevcairiel | now that you can set the launcher to not-show on start .. i wonder why o.O |
| 10:44.12 | Kalroth | But only known stuff and/or stuff using the very basic entry points |
| 10:44.26 | Xinhuan | cos most people that initially use wow.exe do it that way |
| 10:44.31 | Xinhuan | because that option didn't used to even exist |
| 10:44.47 | nevcairiel | i switched to the launcher some time back because it helps applying patches and all :) |
| 10:45.00 | Kalroth | It's very easy to bypass Warden, so it's not much of a protection. It's mainly used to kill bot programs |
| 10:45.08 | Kalroth | Yup nevcairiel |
| 10:45.12 | neenee | It's better than nothing. |
| 10:45.23 | Kalroth | neenee: Barely. :) |
| 10:45.30 | neenee | That doesn't matter |
| 10:45.34 | neenee | It's an extra hurdle. |
| 10:45.40 | nevcairiel | mm my guild jeweler wasnt online yet |
| 10:45.50 | nevcairiel | need new gems for my 2 new items :( |
| 10:45.50 | neenee | I suppose you could run WoW in a proper sandbox, but that's no good for every person out there. |
| 10:45.51 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: nogems4u! |
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| 10:46.06 | nevcairiel | got t6 gloves and new boots yesterday |
| 10:46.07 | nevcairiel | wtb gems |
| 10:46.27 | neenee | A cat in pvp - more armour or more stamina? |
| 10:46.35 | nevcairiel | get stamina |
| 10:46.55 | nevcairiel | helps against casters too |
| 10:47.00 | neenee | as much as possible? or just more than armour and try to get a good rank of both |
| 10:47.15 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt worry about armor being a cat |
| 10:47.20 | Kimina | I think armor will come naturally as long as you're in leather |
| 10:47.22 | Kalroth | You got dodge + armor against melee |
| 10:47.28 | Kalroth | against magic only sta will help you |
| 10:47.29 | Kimina | go for agi and stamina |
| 10:47.31 | neenee | ok |
| 10:47.48 | nevcairiel | ya most of the good feral stuff has increased armor anyway |
| 10:48.38 | neenee | er.. |
| 10:48.41 | neenee | hunter pet cat |
| 10:48.48 | neenee | Not feral druid |
| 10:49.04 | Ozguli | no one will hit it anyway |
| 10:49.05 | nevcairiel | who dps'es a hunter pet? |
| 10:49.06 | Ozguli | exceptwith aoe |
| 10:49.12 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: I do! |
| 10:49.15 | Ozguli | or locks who want more hp regen |
| 10:49.44 | neenee | oh no, wowhead talent thing is broken on opera now. |
| 10:49.56 | Lukian | it is? |
| 10:50.00 | DreadWingKnight | I've seen people go after hunter pets actively, ignoring the hunter |
| 10:50.03 | neenee | for me it is. |
| 10:50.11 | Lukian | what's broken? |
| 10:50.20 | SunTsu | DreadWingKnight: Did you see them win? ;) |
| 10:50.25 | Kalroth | DreadWingKnight: The pet is often more annoying than the hunter, especially if it's a BM hunter |
| 10:50.26 | neenee | it doesn't load. |
| 10:50.32 | nevcairiel | we dps hunter pets if the hunter is stupid enough to send it in without the other group getting in fight |
| 10:50.34 | Lukian | works fine here |
| 10:53.51 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 10:53.55 | Xinhuan | rushter reply |
| 10:55.48 | Xinhuan | "Initial scans brought up nothing, the file has not passed through the site's auto-virus check update system hence did not get caught so it points to a possible server issue." |
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| 10:59.47 | Kalroth | His typing seems rather hasty :) |
| 10:59.55 | Kalroth | "There are processes in place to alert Admions, mod authors etc to any issues quickly and unfortunately thaqt diod not happen in this case" |
| 11:00.12 | Ellipsis | I can has spellcheck? |
| 11:00.38 | Antiarc | I can has sheer panic that my flagship product has been shipping a keylogger for a month+ |
| 11:01.07 | Ellipsis | is it wrong for me to be getting such lulz from this? |
| 11:01.20 | Antiarc | I have a kitty asleep in my lap and my legs are falling asleep |
| 11:01.25 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 11:01.37 | Antiarc | And by kitty I mean behemoth of a cat thta is only classified as a housecat because he lives in a house |
| 11:01.48 | Antiarc | I swear this cat is 90% fat by volume |
| 11:01.57 | Ellipsis | cute widdle kitteh? |
| 11:02.02 | greppy | Antiarc: 'lives in' or 'wears around like a coat'? |
| 11:02.12 | Antiarc | evil annoying humongous ADD kitteh |
| 11:02.20 | Ellipsis | still sounds cute ^-^ |
| 11:02.26 | Antiarc | This is a very smart, very evil, very ADD cat |
| 11:02.38 | Antiarc | He would take over the world if he could focus on something for more than about 6 seconds |
| 11:02.42 | Ellipsis | well at least he can't follow through on his intelligently evil plans? |
| 11:02.49 | Antiarc | Exactly |
| 11:03.13 | Ellipsis | just don't let him get his paws on any ritalin and you'll be ok |
| 11:05.44 | Xinhuan | .... 17% archi wipe, pally died |
| 11:05.47 | Xinhuan | ffs |
| 11:06.09 | nevcairiel | comeone, 7 more % :P |
| 11:06.19 | Aenslaed | heh, ouch |
| 11:06.25 | Diao | why 7 o_O |
| 11:06.31 | Xinhuan | cos you win at 10% |
| 11:06.34 | Xinhuan | not 0 |
| 11:06.38 | Diao | oh |
| 11:07.06 | Aenslaed | we went from many 90% wipes to dead. That fight is definitely all or nothing on the learning curve. |
| 11:09.38 | Ellipsis | oh come on Xinhuan, aren't you soloing him yet? |
| 11:09.52 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, he has a 10 min enrage timer |
| 11:09.54 | Gngsk | Xinhuan is a warlock? |
| 11:09.55 | Xinhuan | so that's not quite possible |
| 11:10.01 | Xinhuan | i'm a mage hehe |
| 11:10.11 | Antiarc | Did you all see that video of the warlock soloing Hydross? |
| 11:10.14 | Gngsk | pfft, you'll never solo him then |
| 11:10.26 | Xinhuan | that video |
| 11:10.34 | Xinhuan | is the stupidest thing i've ever seen |
| 11:10.48 | Ellipsis | what is it, just kite, kite, loot? |
| 11:10.54 | Antiarc | Pretty much |
| 11:10.56 | Ellipsis | fun |
| 11:11.01 | Xinhuan | along with DnT's 5-manning Loatheb |
| 11:11.04 | Xinhuan | at lvl 60 |
| 11:11.05 | Antiarc | So I'm thinking |
| 11:11.07 | Ellipsis | I should do that after my guild fails at lurker, heh |
| 11:11.20 | Antiarc | Now that we know the anatomy of this keylogger, what sort of solution can we develop and distribute to guard against it? |
| 11:11.30 | Xinhuan | nothing Antiarc |
| 11:11.44 | Xinhuan | users should download mods manually |
| 11:11.45 | Antiarc | Well, we know it creates specific files and attaches to specific processes. |
| 11:11.59 | Ellipsis | step 1: don't run windows |
| 11:12.01 | Xinhuan | and not use an application to do it automatically |
| 11:12.06 | Xinhuan | if they are worried |
| 11:12.15 | nevcairiel | forward it to the most commonly known antivirus developers and let them scan it and add it |
| 11:12.17 | nevcairiel | --> done |
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| 11:20.55 | Antiarc | Mmm. |
| 11:21.04 | Antiarc | Running WoW in a VPC with 200MB of allocated RAM is going to be fun! |
| 11:22.11 | Xinhuan | " Call me gullible if you like, but I actually feel bad about Rushter and the rest. |
| 11:22.11 | Xinhuan | It seems they are being targeted by the community and anything they do or say will be wrong. Lynching isnt nice :( |
| 11:22.12 | Xinhuan | " |
| 11:22.17 | Xinhuan | hehehe |
| 11:22.20 | Ozguli | it's pain even with 512 "real" ram |
| 11:22.30 | Kimina | Antiarc: Heh, I was a bit more nice |
| 11:22.32 | Kimina | I gave it 512 |
| 11:22.43 | Antiarc | Kimina: Did you get WoW to run? |
| 11:22.47 | Kimina | still copying it over |
| 11:22.48 | Antiarc | It told me it couldn't find a display device |
| 11:22.48 | Kimina | almost done |
| 11:23.01 | Antiarc | I'm now doing window update hoping that it doesn't have directX installed and that was the problem |
| 11:23.05 | Kimina | may have to install one =( |
| 11:24.10 | Kimina | "It is more than likely some sort of server infiltration into the file storage system on this one file and that is what is being checked this morning" |
| 11:24.14 | Kimina | Is that such a surprise? |
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| 11:24.32 | Ellipsis | im in ur surverz, keylogin ur userz? |
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| 11:25.47 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 11:26.08 | Kimina | siigh |
| 11:26.09 | Kimina | takes so long to copy |
| 11:26.18 | Antiarc | I only copied data, wow.exe, and the DLLs |
| 11:26.24 | Antiarc | Since that's really all that's needed |
| 11:26.28 | Kimina | yeah that's what I should have done |
| 11:28.25 | CIA-8 | 03daviesh * r56237 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 11:28.25 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:28.25 | CIA-8 | - Fixed the issue with Arena sets being inaccessible. |
| 11:29.09 | Antiarc | Emulates the S3 Trio 32/64 PCI Super VGA (SVGA) card. Implements 8 MB of emulated video random access memory (VRAM) for a maximum screen resolution setting of 1600 x 1200. Fully implements S3 Trio 32/64 graphic acceleration features and is compatible with S3 Trio 32/64 drivers. |
| 11:29.10 | Antiarc | :( |
| 11:30.17 | Kimina | heh |
| 11:30.20 | Kimina | is that what you're using? |
| 11:30.25 | Antiarc | No, geforce 7600GT |
| 11:30.29 | Antiarc | But that's what VPC provides |
| 11:30.39 | Kimina | right but can you install something over that? |
| 11:30.46 | Antiarc | I'm looking but doubtful |
| 11:30.57 | Antiarc | I tried installing the latest nvidia drivers, no dice |
| 11:31.43 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r56238 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua: |
| 11:31.43 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 11:31.43 | CIA-8 | - update zhCN local for zul'jin |
| 11:33.01 | Antiarc | Trying a directx install |
| 11:33.57 | Antiarc | I will say |
| 11:34.05 | Antiarc | Installing crap on a VM is a lot faster than my real machine :D |
| 11:34.18 | Kimina | well if this doesn't work I'll just have to run it on my linux install |
| 11:34.21 | Kimina | not like I ever use it anyway |
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| 11:34.31 | Antiarc | damn, no dice |
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| 11:35.51 | Antiarc | I guess I could try it with vmware |
| 11:35.56 | Antiarc | Since that sucks a whole lot less than VPC |
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| 11:38.12 | Antiarc | Sadness. WoW isn't going to run under the VM. |
| 11:38.14 | Antiarc | Ah well. |
| 11:39.02 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 11:39.39 | Antiarc | I'll bet I can get vmware to give me a non-sucky video device |
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| 11:43.24 | Antiarc | It's almost 5 AM and I need sleep |
| 11:43.26 | Antiarc | So night, folks |
| 11:43.36 | Antiarc | Enjoy the drama. I want a 12-page thread when I wake up. |
| 11:44.51 | Kimina | night :) |
| 11:44.58 | Kimina | unfortunately I will be busy most of tonight =( |
| 11:46.02 | ag` | link |
| 11:46.56 | Kimina | ag`: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1, see posts by Kimina slightly below the OP, click on the links there |
| 11:47.21 | Cheads | uhmm is there an addon that let you see what your other chars have equipped? |
| 11:47.30 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:47.38 | Cheads | hehe |
| 11:47.45 | Cheads | do you remember the name of it? |
| 11:47.46 | Xinhuan | BankItems or Possessions :) |
| 11:47.49 | SunTsu | Cheads: myriads of ;) |
| 11:48.02 | Cheads | goodie goodie, will check them out =) |
| 11:48.04 | Cheads | thanks |
| 11:48.04 | SunTsu | Cheads: CharacterInfo eg |
| 11:48.51 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56239 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: |
| 11:48.51 | CIA-8 | .AceComm-2.0: |
| 11:48.51 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.51 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.51 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.52 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.43 | Antiarc | O_O |
| 11:49.47 | Antiarc | Please tell me that's a branch |
| 11:49.51 | Xinhuan | it isn't |
| 11:50.07 | Xinhuan | vhaarr's been making 2-3 major commits to ace2 last 2 days |
| 11:50.39 | Shirik | Antiarc, go to sleep :) |
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| 11:50.46 | Antiarc | I probably should |
| 11:50.48 | vhaarr | :P |
| 11:50.51 | Antiarc | But now I need to make sure that commit didn't break Threat |
| 11:51.00 | Antiarc | Because I think I was using SendPrioritizedCommMessage |
| 11:51.08 | Xinhuan | well you should have checked yesterday's ace2 commit |
| 11:51.08 | vhaarr | it should be a branch, yeah |
| 11:51.14 | Xinhuan | heaps of changes too :) |
| 11:51.26 | Antiarc | Yeah, I probably should. Ouch. |
| 11:51.27 | vhaarr | I'm just so lazy >< |
| 11:51.31 | Shirik | It is generally argued as a bad idea from an API developer's standpoint to remove functions after they exist.... |
| 11:51.34 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Did the method go away, or is it just aliased? |
| 11:51.40 | Shirik | even if they aren't recommended anymore, just deprecate them... |
| 11:51.40 | vhaarr | Antiarc: aliased |
| 11:51.43 | Antiarc | whew |
| 11:51.49 | Shirik | ok that's good :) |
| 11:52.12 | Antiarc | I was about to say, I was about to be lynched by a thousand angry raiders, and if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me! |
| 11:52.16 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 11:52.17 | vhaarr | they were basically the same function with just 1 minor difference |
| 11:52.55 | Lukian | haha |
| 11:53.01 | vhaarr | Antiarc: I get lynched when things like omen, bigwigs, ora2, agUF and stuff breaks as well, don't worry :P |
| 11:53.06 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 11:53.48 | vhaarr | Antiarc: it's just that noone loves ace2 any more, so I figured I'd clean up a bit |
| 11:54.09 | vhaarr | because despite what people might want, we still use it for lots of important projects |
| 11:55.41 | Shirik | ace2 is evil, you should be using ace4 by now! |
| 11:56.02 | Antiarc | I use Ace16, but I support Ace2 for temporarl compatibility reasons |
| 11:56.08 | Antiarc | temporal |
| 11:56.28 | vhaarr | I've gone so far back that I'm cleaning up Ace1 and converting my addons now |
| 11:56.37 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 11:56.41 | vhaarr | I think it's the "next big thing", really |
| 11:56.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:56.46 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:56.50 | Ellipsis | just what we needed, an anti-fork |
| 11:57.59 | nevcairiel | i hate the mail api, the minimap icon says "new mail from foo", but mailbox doesnt give me shit |
| 11:57.59 | vhaarr | Antiarc: but if you want to read through the commits and check them, that'd be nice |
| 11:58.07 | vhaarr | or anyone |
| 11:58.16 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56240 10Ace3/docs/AceBucket-3.0.txt: Ace3 - add AceBucket-3.0 docs, which makes it clear it's missing the UnregisterAll* methods. Somehow that slipped through... |
| 11:58.49 | Antiarc | vhaarr: I'll glance over them if I think of it tomorrow :) |
| 11:58.58 | vhaarr | okay ^^ |
| 11:59.25 | Antiarc | Okay. Going to bed for reals now. |
| 11:59.31 | Antiarc | Because it's now actually 5 AM and yeah. |
| 11:59.49 | vhaarr | lern2read the time, it's 13:00 |
| 11:59.59 | vhaarr | :P |
| 12:00.10 | Antiarc | It's 5 AM arizona time, and since the world revolves around me, that's what time it is. |
| 12:00.14 | Antiarc | Get it right. |
| 12:00.33 | Kuja^ | ~ugt |
| 12:00.34 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:00.38 | Kuja^ | thats it ;) |
| 12:00.45 | Antiarc | ~uat |
| 12:00.49 | Kerafyrm | goto check the incgamers thread and get.. |
| 12:00.49 | Kerafyrm | "You have been banned for the following reason: |
| 12:00.50 | Kerafyrm | No reason was specified. |
| 12:00.50 | Kerafyrm | Date the ban will be lifted: Never |
| 12:00.51 | Kerafyrm | " |
| 12:00.52 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 12:00.56 | Ellipsis | the world really does revolve around Antiarc |
| 12:01.03 | Ellipsis | at least, until someone else joins or leaves |
| 12:01.03 | vhaarr | Kuja^: we're aware of the UGT, you just ruined our fun |
| 12:01.12 | Antiarc | purl, uat is Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on site. |
| 12:01.12 | purl | okay, Antiarc |
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| 12:01.31 | vhaarr | on sight? |
| 12:01.40 | Antiarc | purl, no, uat is Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight. |
| 12:01.41 | purl | okay, Antiarc |
| 12:01.49 | Antiarc | Yeah, I'm tired. >_> |
| 12:01.52 | Kuja^ | vhaarr: thats what i wanted, you were having fun w/o me! *cries* |
| 12:01.59 | starlon | Oh shit, now we're shooting time... |
| 12:02.08 | vhaarr | Antiarc: When a norwegian corrects your english, it's time to head for bed. |
| 12:02.11 | Ellipsis | killing time is what we do best here |
| 12:02.16 | Antiarc | vhaarr: Hahah, yes |
| 12:02.21 | Antiarc | Night all :) |
| 12:02.25 | Kuja^ | nn |
| 12:02.29 | vhaarr | nn |
| 12:02.29 | Ellipsis | night |
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| 12:04.37 | Shirik | Antiarc: Still here? |
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| 12:05.25 | Ozguli | mmh |
| 12:05.34 | Ozguli | that purl's just a bitchbot |
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| 12:12.13 | CIA-8 | 03daviesh * r56241 10AtlasLoot/Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua: |
| 12:12.13 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:12.13 | CIA-8 | - Fixed the Dragons of Nightmare for Atlas 1.10.3 |
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| 12:14.27 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56242 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:14.27 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:14.27 | CIA-8 | - Fixed some lines, reverted Anzu |
| 12:14.27 | CIA-8 | - Changed to Reliquary of Souls |
| 12:17.21 | Xinhuan | whoa new rushter response |
| 12:17.32 | Xinhuan | it keeps my archimonde wipes interesting |
| 12:18.03 | NoLife3 | wipes on archimonde aint fun |
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| 12:18.45 | Xinhuan | " The 'campaign' has become a little tiresome I'll agree with you there. As a network that is so careful with what we shift out to the public (we probably take more care than most) and one that sticks so close to Blizzard's TOS / EULA with regards to files, gold selling and anything else, " |
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| 12:18.54 | Xinhuan | , it's a shame there are people that have the pitchforks and torches burning as soon as anything happens. As a large network we are usually the first point of call for attacks so we take the brunt of it and then have to deal with it then inform others of the issue. |
| 12:21.09 | Tekkub | but pitchforks are fun |
| 12:21.18 | Xinhuan | post a reply tekkub :) |
| 12:21.22 | Tekkub | maybe if they'd gotten us to trust them... |
| 12:21.33 | Xinhuan | tell him that if he hadn't defended uicentral so vehemously, |
| 12:21.49 | Xinhuan | maybe he wouldn't have gotten such a backlash |
| 12:21.51 | Tekkub | see now if this shit happened on WoWI, I'd just throw cats at cair till it was fixed |
| 12:22.14 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r56243 10JewelTips/ (. JewelTips.lua JewelTips.toc embeds.xml): |
| 12:22.14 | CIA-8 | JewelTips: |
| 12:22.14 | CIA-8 | - add locals(koKR) |
| 12:22.14 | CIA-8 | - fix enchant names : |
| 12:22.14 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.15 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:29.31 | CIA-8 | 03mikk 07Beta * r56244 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: |
| 12:29.31 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceTimer: |
| 12:29.31 | CIA-8 | - ACE-95: Fix bucket indexes to be 1-based rather than 0-based for speed. |
| 12:33.43 | Xinhuan | hahahahaha |
| 12:33.48 | Xinhuan | archimonde down and guess what |
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| 12:34.04 | Xinhuan | our 3 archimonde kills so far in total, yielded us 6xdruid/mage/rogue helms |
| 12:34.08 | Xinhuan | our MT is getting cut |
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| 12:35.44 | sylvanaar_work | wow i just read the uicentral thing on the wow forums |
| 12:35.51 | sylvanaar_work | that really blossomed overnight |
| 12:36.07 | tekcub | I'm about to add my "flaming" :) |
| 12:36.12 | tekcub | (again) |
| 12:36.32 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56245 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:36.32 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:36.32 | CIA-8 | - Second part of BC instances revision |
| 12:37.26 | tekcub | there we are :) |
| 12:37.32 | Ktwo | spell penetration / resistance/ 120armor what do u think is best suited for pvp (shadow priest)? |
| 12:38.03 | tekcub | everone like penetration |
| 12:38.04 | Wobin_ | aw he locked the thread =P |
| 12:39.32 | vrak | "uicentral thing"? |
| 12:39.44 | tekcub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 12:40.09 | tekcub | yea Wobin_ he learned that deleting just makes him look worse :) |
| 12:40.31 | tekcub | plus he'd rather have all the slander on a more public forum like the o.boards |
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| 12:42.45 | SunTsu | Ktwo: How important is crit for a shadow priest? |
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| 12:44.02 | Gngsk | SunTsu, 2 spells that can crit? not very important. |
| 12:45.04 | SunTsu | Gngsk: Well, then spell penetration does not seem very important for a shadow priest |
| 12:45.45 | Ktwo | does it affect only spells which can crit? |
| 12:46.05 | Ellipsis | ...crit chance only affects spells that can crit, yes |
| 12:46.15 | Ktwo | its spell penetration |
| 12:46.26 | Gngsk | wait, what? |
| 12:46.31 | Ktwo | its something about lower resist on the enemy as fair as i know |
| 12:46.33 | Gngsk | when did spell penetration get injected into the conversation? |
| 12:46.40 | Diao | he asked all 3 |
| 12:46.51 | tekcub | _EVERYONE_ likes penetration |
| 12:46.53 | Gngsk | oooh |
| 12:46.57 | Gngsk | I didn't see his first statement |
| 12:47.08 | Ktwo | was this: spell penetration / resistance/ 120armor what do u think is best suited for pvp (shadow priest)? |
| 12:47.09 | Diao | lol |
| 12:47.12 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 12:47.14 | Gngsk | I see it now |
| 12:47.37 | Diao | most people have low resist |
| 12:47.41 | Ktwo | i also thought about enchanting +15 shadow resist (as an undead) |
| 12:47.59 | Diao | get s3 wand with penetration and get shadow res on cloak |
| 12:48.05 | Diao | for anti-fear |
| 12:48.13 | Ellipsis | the SR enchant is really expensive |
| 12:48.26 | Ktwo | dont care about gold, i just want the most useful :< |
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| 12:49.01 | Ellipsis | another day without my chocolate cake recipe... /sigh |
| 12:49.16 | tekcub | first one I got :) |
| 12:49.19 | Ktwo | i got stormchops :) |
| 12:49.27 | Ellipsis | I have all but the cake |
| 12:49.28 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 12:49.33 | Ellipsis | and I really like cake! |
| 12:49.34 | tekcub | it's a lie |
| 12:50.05 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 12:50.25 | tekcub | wobin |
| 12:50.36 | tekcub | hand me a rag |
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| 12:53.07 | Industrial | DING 65 |
| 12:53.09 | many | poor boy |
| 12:53.12 | Wobin | omg |
| 12:53.14 | many | he didnt know he were hacked |
| 12:53.19 | Wobin | 5 more levels before the universe implodes |
| 12:53.23 | Industrial | >:D |
| 12:53.36 | Ellipsis | someone kidnap Industrial before he destroys us all |
| 12:53.46 | Wobin | Industrial: Now's the perfect time to start levelling an alt |
| 12:53.50 | Industrial | you can kidnap me Ellipsis ;> |
| 12:53.54 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 12:53.58 | Ellipsis | yes, but where will I take you? |
| 12:54.06 | Ellipsis | anyone have a dungeon I can rent? |
| 12:54.20 | Wobin | by the hour? |
| 12:54.21 | Industrial | meh if thats your thing Ellipsis |
| 12:54.37 | Ellipsis | well I can't just let you escape now can I? |
| 12:54.44 | Wobin | indeed |
| 12:54.48 | Wobin | that would be counterproductive |
| 12:55.04 | Industrial | i might go out and level again |
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| 12:59.28 | Gngsk | http://home.comcast.net/~gngsk/WoWScrnShot_062107_094810.jpg |
| 12:59.42 | Gngsk | interesting screenshot I found while browsing my folder. had totally forgot about that |
| 13:00.11 | Gngsk | think it's worthy of wowbash? |
| 13:03.39 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:05.16 | Xyphor | lol @ screenshot :p |
| 13:07.02 | FinalX | lol @ ss |
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| 13:13.38 | Tekkub | ah nothing funner than harassing clad when he's trying to be all serious |
| 13:13.55 | cladhaire | orly? |
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| 13:14.09 | Tekkub | you can come out of the closet clad! |
| 13:14.13 | Tekkub | it's safe out here! |
| 13:14.25 | cladhaire | uhh k k |
| 13:14.29 | cladhaire | i have to sya |
| 13:14.36 | cladhaire | i don't feel safe with furries about |
| 13:14.39 | cladhaire | tell me when they go away! |
| 13:14.48 | Tekkub | are YOU furry? |
| 13:15.01 | Tekkub | or you still not shave yet? |
| 13:15.13 | cladhaire | i have facial hair |
| 13:15.16 | cladhaire | there's a difference :P |
| 13:15.18 | cladhaire | and its two days worth |
| 13:15.20 | Tekkub | then yes, /fear |
| 13:15.28 | Tekkub | uh... |
| 13:15.37 | Tekkub | two days worth on my roomie is 4 months for me |
| 13:15.38 | Wobin | psst, you don't warn him |
| 13:16.02 | Tekkub | so define "two days worth" :P |
| 13:16.02 | Wobin | He the type to have five o'clock shadow at 10am? |
| 13:16.26 | Tekkub | he could have a full hobo beard in less than a week, yes |
| 13:16.26 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, i'm surprised you bothered to write a comprehensive reply to rushter :) |
| 13:16.49 | Tekkub | clad's using the situation to try to get rid of his "I'm a big dick" reputation :{ |
| 13:16.54 | cladhaire | I had things I felt I needed to say |
| 13:17.00 | cladhaire | lol, no i'm a big dick |
| 13:17.03 | cladhaire | i'm aware |
| 13:17.06 | Tekkub | yes but, that's not your normal tone claddo |
| 13:17.12 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 13:17.25 | cladhaire | irc isn't the same as thought out writing |
| 13:17.26 | Kalroth | He's too busy worrying about his own site and his reputation rather than the users who downloaded the trojan from his site. |
| 13:17.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:17.31 | Tekkub | you just couldn't compete with rush's dick, could you? |
| 13:17.37 | cladhaire | Kalroth: yep |
| 13:17.55 | Kalroth | Either that or he got zero control over his site :) |
| 13:18.12 | Tekkub | I'm leaning towards "they knew" |
| 13:18.19 | Tekkub | but then, I like my pitchfork |
| 13:18.48 | cladhaire | Are there any tradeskill items that require two "tools", such as "Forge" or "Grinder" |
| 13:19.08 | Tekkub | you mean two fixed objects? |
| 13:19.17 | CIA-8 | 03ammo * r56246 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: re-use the same table always for the current data-row being displayed instead of dumping it back in the generic recycle bin. This removes the need for special checks on this special table. |
| 13:19.17 | Tekkub | engineering requires lots of tools |
| 13:19.18 | Wobin | most of the engineering? |
| 13:19.26 | Tekkub | but only ever one fixed object at a time |
| 13:19.31 | Diao | argh |
| 13:19.33 | Wobin | also blacksmithing needs the hammer and anvil |
| 13:19.37 | Diao | why is the guild bank log on armory broken only for my guild :( |
| 13:20.03 | Tekkub | engy is usually a spanner, a screwdrive, a hammer and an anvil |
| 13:20.17 | cladhaire | you have an engineer you can test for me? |
| 13:20.23 | Tekkub | yes and no |
| 13:20.35 | cladhaire | can someone dump GetTradeSkillTools(GetTradeSkillSelectedIndex()) for me |
| 13:20.40 | Tekkub | if my connection wasn't shittying out every 5 min today... |
| 13:20.43 | cladhaire | want to make sure it has multiple returns, with two values per tool |
| 13:20.53 | cladhaire | anyone who has an eng or blacksmith pls :P |
| 13:20.57 | cladhaire | on a recipe that requires more than one tool |
| 13:21.21 | Tekkub | I'll try |
| 13:21.21 | Tekkub | and phail |
| 13:21.21 | cladhaire | say tool again |
| 13:21.21 | cladhaire | "tool" |
| 13:21.21 | Tekkub | (tool) |
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| 13:21.36 | Tekkub | you just want to know how many tools you can service at the same time |
| 13:22.09 | starlon | "Use our 100% free, spyware-free tools" Yes, tools |
| 13:22.35 | [Ammo] | funny stuff that text on their page indeed |
| 13:22.37 | Tekkub | keylogers ~= spyware |
| 13:22.45 | [Ammo] | it spies on my keys |
| 13:23.18 | Tekkub | clad, nil value... |
| 13:23.32 | cladhaire | Tekkub: do you have the tradeskill window open, and the recipe selected? |
| 13:23.38 | Tekkub | global GetTradeSkillSelectedIndex a nil |
| 13:23.43 | cladhaire | ok |
| 13:23.44 | Tekkub | yes |
| 13:23.47 | cladhaire | whats that damn function again :P |
| 13:23.52 | evl | Does the Daze effect stack with other movement imparing effects like Crippling Poison, Slow? |
| 13:23.57 | cladhaire | GetTradeSkillSelectionIndex( |
| 13:23.58 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 13:24.04 | Kalroth | evl: No |
| 13:24.23 | evl | So there's a slow cap? |
| 13:24.29 | evl | 50% of original speed? |
| 13:25.27 | Kalroth | all of the spells in http://thottbot.com/?e=Apply%20Aura%3A%20Mod%20Speed%20Slow override each other, assuming they slow more. Otherwise they're ignored. |
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| 13:26.03 | tekcub | told ya |
| 13:26.05 | tekcub | "Anvil", 1, "Blacksmith's Hammer", nil, "Arclight Spanner", nil |
| 13:26.07 | tekcub | I didn't have the 2 tools in my bag |
| 13:26.15 | tekcub | so they show up red |
| 13:26.20 | [Ammo] | wowa, someone going ballistic in caps and bold in that incgamers thread |
| 13:26.37 | tekcub | anvil is always white since it's a fixed object, instead it throws an error if you try to cast and it's not nearby |
| 13:26.40 | [Ammo] | although Time to hold their feet to the brimstone is kinda funky :) |
| 13:26.56 | omega | whats all this incgamers fuzz? |
| 13:27.05 | cladhaire | read the thread |
| 13:27.12 | omega | url? |
| 13:27.17 | [Ammo] | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1 |
| 13:27.22 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 13:27.24 | Xinhuan | its grown |
| 13:27.30 | Xinhuan | it even got blue-ed |
| 13:27.37 | tekcub | clad, was that the info you needed? |
| 13:27.49 | cladhaire | tekcub: yep, perfect thanks. |
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| 13:28.36 | Kalroth | wow |
| 13:28.40 | Diao | i never understood why slow effects didn't just apply to the target as debuffs |
| 13:28.41 | Tekkub | god damnit |
| 13:28.42 | Kalroth | "I recently reinstalled Lootlink and wanted to merge the premade database and it keeps telling me I've run out of memor" |
| 13:28.43 | Tekkub | clad, was that the info you needed? |
| 13:28.51 | cladhaire | Tekkub: yes thanks,. |
| 13:28.51 | Kalroth | how do you run out of memory on wow, using legit mods? :p |
| 13:29.01 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:29.04 | Kalroth | in wow* |
| 13:29.28 | Tekkub | there used to be a threshold |
| 13:29.35 | Kalroth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168399406&sid=1 best part is that he wants to know how to increase memory available |
| 13:29.40 | Kalroth | rather than cleaning up :p |
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| 13:32.58 | Gngsk | haste, ping |
| 13:33.03 | haste | pong |
| 13:33.11 | Kalroth | ooh |
| 13:33.14 | Kalroth | haste, ping |
| 13:33.17 | Gngsk | lols |
| 13:33.20 | Wobin | wow |
| 13:33.23 | haste | doesn't work that way Kalroth :p |
| 13:33.26 | Kalroth | D'oh |
| 13:33.29 | Wobin | Kraqule is... passionate |
| 13:33.41 | Kalroth | I was hoping for a game of ping-pong over irc :( |
| 13:33.53 | haste | :-( |
| 13:33.59 | [Ammo] | Wobin: yeah |
| 13:34.19 | Gngsk | haste, I had a question abot oApplication lemme check the code real quick to remember what it was |
| 13:36.01 | Gngsk | basically, I use Geist+oAPP to apply poisons. The highlite frame that shows up stays after I hide geist I was wondering how to make it hide when geist does. |
| 13:37.08 | Gngsk | I guess it doesn't call that OnLeave script, since the frame basically gets hidden |
| 13:37.13 | Kalroth | ~wedgie Tekkub |
| 13:37.13 | purl | ACTION hangs Tekkub from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 13:37.25 | haste | Gngsk: I can take a look at it soonish :p |
| 13:37.35 | Gngsk | cool, thanks |
| 13:38.11 | CIA-8 | 03hegarol * r56247 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 13:38.11 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 13:38.11 | CIA-8 | - Added Badge of Justice to Kara bosses |
| 13:38.48 | Kalroth | Tekkub: Why isn't your compare on ace svn?! |
| 13:39.15 | Tekkub | because I don't use the Ace SVN |
| 13:39.22 | Kalroth | Oh okay, fair enough |
| 13:39.35 | Tekkub | code.tekkub.net |
| 13:39.37 | Kalroth | Just assumed you did, considering there's a few other tek* addons there |
| 13:39.52 | Kalroth | Yup, found it, I'm just lazy and prefer getting addons from one place :P |
| 13:39.55 | Tekkub | did, past tense |
| 13:40.57 | omega | amazing |
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| 13:46.35 | cladhaire | anyone know what GetAccountExpansionLevel() returns if you don't have BC? |
| 13:46.36 | cladhaire | 0 |
| 13:46.37 | cladhaire | nil? |
| 13:46.55 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:46.59 | Wobin | who has that? =P |
| 13:47.08 | Wobin | I guess you could get a trial account to check |
| 13:48.02 | Kerafyrm | prolly 0 = trial 1 = regular 2 = tbc 3 = wotlk |
| 13:48.04 | Kerafyrm | etc |
| 13:48.43 | Kalroth | no, it's just expansion |
| 13:48.44 | cladhaire | no |
| 13:48.46 | cladhaire | 0, 1 |
| 13:48.46 | Kalroth | 0 = no expansion |
| 13:48.48 | cladhaire | thanks :P |
| 13:48.49 | Kalroth | 1 = bc |
| 13:49.17 | Kalroth | It's actually used in some wowace code! |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.31 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.31 | haste | Gngsk: so it's the geist icon not hiding D: ? |
| 13:50.00 | [Ammo] | I thought you could go beyond 60 without expansion, just not level in outland? |
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| 13:50.09 | cladhaire | no, can't level past 60 |
| 13:50.14 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 13:50.35 | NoLife3 | no your level cap is locked |
| 13:50.41 | NoLife3 | you dont get exp. |
| 13:50.42 | Gngsk | haste, no it's the oApp frame not hiding. Has to do with the change to the modifier event you register. it returns LALT, RALT now instead of just ALT |
| 13:51.44 | Gngsk | as it stands now, if I hold alt-Q to show the geist frame I can apply my poison. when I let go of q the geist frame hides, oApp frame remains until mouse leaves the frame. |
| 13:52.33 | Gngsk | if you change the if statement on line 74 to take care of LALT and RALT when I let go of Q but keep holding alt geist frame leaves oApp frame stays until I let go of alt |
| 13:52.37 | haste | I actually get the geist frame not hiding |
| 13:52.53 | Gngsk | oh, hrmm |
| 13:54.14 | Gngsk | I'm using Version 20200.1 2007-09-25, you? |
| 13:54.31 | FinalX | I wonder if there is a function to just get the max level instead. |
| 13:54.41 | haste | Version 20300.1 2007-11-12 |
| 13:54.44 | FinalX | Since trial versions are locked to level 20. |
| 13:54.44 | haste | I just downloaded it |
| 13:55.31 | dieck | FinalX: I'd think that's server side based |
| 13:55.58 | FinalX | Yeah, but isn't GetAccountExpansionLevel() as well? |
| 13:56.07 | dieck | hm. ok |
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| 13:58.13 | dieck | wowwiki lists a function getAvailableLevel (as empty link) |
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| 14:00.00 | TNSe | lol |
| 14:00.04 | TNSe | "• Blizard were able to reproduce the error 132 internally and it is being worked on. (src)" |
| 14:00.22 | Gngsk | haste, well it works well enough for me now. You can uninstall Geist and forget it even existed. |
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| 14:00.29 | haste | :-P |
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| 14:00.51 | haste | this is going to be the baggins issue all over again! |
| 14:01.48 | Gngsk | *shrug* all I know is it's a nice poison solution geist+oApp |
| 14:04.27 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56248 10PowerDisplay/ (PowerDisplay.lua pdOptions.lua): PowerDisplay: added Crits to stat lines |
| 14:05.14 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56249 10Ace3/ (AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua docs/AceBucket-3.0.txt): |
| 14:05.14 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0: |
| 14:05.14 | CIA-8 | - Add :UnregisterAllBuckets() |
| 14:05.14 | CIA-8 | - make sure this is called automatically from :OnEmbedDisable |
| 14:05.14 | CIA-8 | - Update documentation to reflect changes. |
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| 14:08.35 | Birdemani | quick question, just reinstalled my irc client, forgot how to register on this server |
| 14:09.26 | dieck | Birdemani: he tells you on connect |
| 14:09.41 | Birdemani | hrm, let me scroll back up then, must have missed it |
| 14:09.50 | dieck | Birdemani: msg nickserv identify <password> |
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| 14:10.41 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r56250 10PowerDisplay/PowerDisplay.lua: PowerDisplay: renamed 2nd Melee Crit to what it really is (Ranged Crit) |
| 14:11.45 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56251 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 14:11.45 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: |
| 14:11.45 | CIA-8 | - Fix 2 errors addon -> self |
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| 14:15.11 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Beta * r56252 10Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua: |
| 14:15.11 | CIA-8 | Ace3 - AceBucket-3.0: |
| 14:15.11 | CIA-8 | - add missing do |
| 14:17.09 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r56253 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: use global db instead of per character. |
| 14:17.39 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r56254 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: ditto |
| 14:18.34 | Industrial | lol fishermans friend :) |
| 14:18.50 | Industrial | [Ammo]: whats smoothdurability |
| 14:19.04 | [Ammo] | it colors the armored man with a gradient |
| 14:19.09 | [Ammo] | instead of the 3 step blizzard solution |
| 14:19.19 | [Ammo] | and allows you to set thresholds on when to color |
| 14:19.20 | Industrial | ah ok |
| 14:19.22 | [Ammo] | as well as unlock it and move it |
| 14:19.30 | [Ammo] | it also adds durability info to the paperdoll |
| 14:19.55 | [Ammo] | and because I couldn't be arsed to install a separate addon for it, it has an autorepair toggle |
| 14:20.04 | [Ammo] | basically a durability addon that does what I want :) |
| 14:21.06 | Industrial | yeh |
| 14:23.33 | Industrial | nagrand ho! |
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| 14:28.13 | CIA-8 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r56255 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: appease the new config validator |
| 14:28.36 | sylvanaar_work | anyone have a copy of the disasm of the keylogger thingy? or the binary? i'd like to know where it was sending its info |
| 14:29.34 | Birdemani | what was spreading the logger? |
| 14:29.47 | [Ammo] | the UICentral app from incgamers |
| 14:30.48 | Olison | lol :D |
| 14:30.50 | Olison | gg |
| 14:31.08 | Olison | bright future for that program then |
| 14:31.18 | sylvanaar_work | how was it executing that program? |
| 14:31.27 | sylvanaar_work | just unzipping shouldnt do it |
| 14:31.42 | [Ammo] | the info is mostly in the thread |
| 14:31.54 | [Ammo] | including where it was sending the info |
| 14:31.58 | [Ammo] | to some bizcn.com site |
| 14:32.12 | [Ammo] | or at least a site owned by bizcn.com |
| 14:32.15 | sylvanaar_work | nah, it didnt say why the updater was running an exe from the zip though |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-8 | 03speeddymon * r56256 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-8 | -Fix typo |
| 14:32.52 | [Ammo] | I thought it was the updater itself taht was infected |
| 14:32.57 | NoLife3 | i like that fishermansfriend ammo :) |
| 14:33.16 | sylvanaar_work | i thought it was another file screenshotviewer |
| 14:33.24 | Birdemani | the bizcn site has been poping up all over the US forums this week as well |
| 14:34.25 | [Ammo] | it was inside the uicentral package |
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| 14:36.25 | Silviu- | Antiarc posted a link with the file |
| 14:36.26 | Silviu- | :) |
| 14:36.37 | [Ammo] | I don't think I want that file ;) |
| 14:36.45 | Silviu- | :P |
| 14:38.51 | Pkekyo| | g'morning all |
| 14:38.52 | Birdemani | Here is something interesting, and not sure how this happened. Guy in my guild followed a link sent to him via IM, notices shortly after going there he has a virus. He was logged only into wow and vent at the time. He logs off to reimage and 10 min later a hacker is on his account |
| 14:39.01 | Birdemani | how the hell did they get his info if he was already logged in? |
| 14:39.34 | [Ammo] | because he already had the virus before that |
| 14:39.36 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 14:40.02 | Pkekyo| | I'd say the IM link only activated the virus if the link had anything to do with it at all.... |
| 14:40.02 | Birdemani | that was my guess, but of course he swears it was from that site |
| 14:40.16 | Pkekyo| | just tell him to find safe porn sites and call customer 'services' |
| 14:40.28 | Ellipsis | if he clicks random links and gets viruses from them, then it's fairly likely he's done so before as well |
| 14:40.40 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 14:40.57 | Birdemani | I caught the guy selling his shit and spammed trade on him till he booted him from the account. Still managed to get rid of most things. Bliz only replaced about 80 percent of what he lost |
| 14:40.58 | Pkekyo| | ALWAYS verify links to unknown sites before following them |
| 14:41.12 | Birdemani | ya, he doesnt use firefox either |
| 14:41.20 | Pkekyo| | tell him to get Opera instead :> |
| 14:41.34 | Birdemani | is there a noscript for opera ? |
| 14:41.47 | Ktwo | is there a possibilty to infect s.ones pc without he downloads something? (even with IE?) |
| 14:41.49 | Pkekyo| | err...I guess... |
| 14:41.55 | Livid` | yes |
| 14:42.05 | Livid` | iirc they can imbed code in jpgs etc |
| 14:42.09 | Pkekyo| | I don't do stupid shit, so I never had a need to find a noscript plugin for opera |
| 14:42.14 | Livid` | either that |
| 14:42.32 | Livid` | or he went to something maybe like .jpg.php or something maybe |
| 14:42.34 | Pkekyo| | Livid`: well, even though they imbed code in [known file format], he'd still have to download the file |
| 14:42.47 | Livid` | isnt the code executed when he views it in the browser ? |
| 14:43.08 | Ktwo | thats what i think, at least on IE7 he has to accept the execution |
| 14:43.36 | Pkekyo| | depends on the browser, Livid`, and either way, he'd still have to download the information.... 'download' =/= 'right click+save as' |
| 14:43.46 | Pkekyo| | Birdemani: atleast I know Opera stops keylogging attempts (read chinese forum spammers etc) by default :) |
| 14:43.51 | Ellipsis | yeah, but most people don't disable images Pkekyo| :P |
| 14:44.08 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: huh? |
| 14:44.10 | Ellipsis | it's not hard to get someone to view an infected jpeg |
| 14:44.12 | Birdemani | I havent tried opera in a few years (since firefox), may check it out again |
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| 14:44.34 | Ellipsis | it's a bit more difficult to get them to download and run an infected executable |
| 14:44.36 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: ofcourse not, but even though he just clicks the link in the browser, the information is still downloaded! (nitpicking ftw) |
| 14:44.39 | Kalroth | Your browser is only as safe as until the next new remote execute exploit is found |
| 14:44.41 | Pkekyo| | Birdemani: I can't live without it... :) |
| 14:44.49 | Kalroth | All browsers get them, even with shit disabled |
| 14:44.52 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: I didn't disagree with that, just said from a user standpoint it's quite different :P |
| 14:45.04 | SunTsu | Ktwo: Sure there is. If sb. downloads an image, and his viewer has a stack or heap overflow, you may embed code into a specially formatted picture |
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| 14:45.21 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: yes, ofcourse it is...but then again, you could say most end users are absolute twats without a single clue :p |
| 14:45.27 | Ellipsis | there are plenty of similar exploits that wouldn't require you to view an image or even do anything at all |
| 14:45.39 | Pkekyo| | most people, will avoid viruses, keylogging etc if they don't do stupid shit |
| 14:45.56 | Pkekyo| | I'm not even using antivirus software anymore, 'cause I stopped doing_stupid_stuff |
| 14:46.00 | Birdemani | most people are tricked via social means |
| 14:46.00 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 14:46.00 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: again, no argument here :) |
| 14:46.20 | Ellipsis | I don't use an antivirus either |
| 14:46.31 | Ellipsis | and surprise surprise, I don't get viruses or account hackings or anything! |
| 14:46.33 | Pkekyo| | bah, I'm tired....I read the lines, but... Syntax Error! :> |
| 14:46.53 | sylvanaar_work | on windows you should fully enable DEP imo |
| 14:47.00 | Pkekyo| | DEP? |
| 14:47.10 | Ellipsis | lol, DEP |
| 14:47.13 | Pkekyo| | I even clicked one of those keyloggerpicture.cn links on the wow forums (sleepyhead ftw), but nothing happened, my purty Opera saved me :p |
| 14:47.14 | Ellipsis | does that even work? |
| 14:47.18 | sylvanaar_work | uh yes |
| 14:47.29 | Pkekyo| | "Department of Environmental Quality Engineering"? |
| 14:47.36 | Xinhuan | [11/29 22:30:38] <sylvanaar_work> anyone have a copy of the disasm of the keylogger thingy? or the binary? i'd like to know where it was sending its info |
| 14:47.37 | QuantumDelta | Data Execution Prevention |
| 14:47.43 | QuantumDelta | damn things a menace :< |
| 14:47.52 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar_work: Antiarc hosted a copy for this purpose, do you want a link? |
| 14:47.58 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, pm me |
| 14:48.02 | Pkekyo| | anyone care to elaborate? I suck with english technical terms |
| 14:48.03 | Ellipsis | I thought all they had to do was disable it and *then* run an exploit |
| 14:48.30 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r56257 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Decreased default scale but increased default layout size, added border color changer, new default border |
| 14:48.41 | QuantumDelta | DEP stops unauthorized applications from running on your PC |
| 14:48.49 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you're probably right, but I guess your average keylogger can't be arsed :) |
| 14:48.54 | QuantumDelta | just refuses them execution rights |
| 14:49.00 | Pkekyo| | part of Win XP? |
| 14:49.03 | QuantumDelta | ye |
| 14:49.19 | Pkekyo| | how will it affect my regular work? |
| 14:49.32 | QuantumDelta | as long as it's all on your exceptions list |
| 14:49.34 | Ellipsis | it supposedly prevents data from being executed |
| 14:49.35 | QuantumDelta | not at all |
| 14:49.43 | Ellipsis | which is supposed to be like, the end of buffer overflows |
| 14:49.47 | Xinhuan | got the pm? |
| 14:49.49 | Pkekyo| | exceptions list? and what is 'all'? |
| 14:49.58 | QuantumDelta | Every app you might ever use |
| 14:49.59 | QuantumDelta | ever |
| 14:50.05 | Ellipsis | I've heard it's not hard for malicious software to disable it though, and it can cause issues with some programs |
| 14:50.09 | *** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@unaffiliated/polarina) |
| 14:50.09 | QuantumDelta | it's not |
| 14:50.10 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed then....just gonna stick to not doing stupid shit |
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| 14:50.13 | QuantumDelta | and it ca |
| 14:50.15 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 14:50.15 | QuantumDelta | can* |
| 14:50.22 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 14:50.39 | Pkekyo| | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yJsM1Tl7_jE :> |
| 14:51.05 | Pkekyo| | meh, I hate that uk.youtube prefix...have to use it at school though, sysadmin isn't smart enough to block subdomains :p |
| 14:51.12 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: for all you know, your IRC client has a buffer overflow exploit which any of us could attack right now! |
| 14:51.32 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: last time I checked, Opera didn't have any... |
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| 14:52.34 | Pkekyo| | and if there are...it's fine, I'll just wait for the next update :) |
| 14:53.06 | Ellipsis | that's plenty of time for us to hax0r you |
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| 14:53.30 | Wobin | sloblocks? |
| 14:53.43 | Pkekyo| | I consider Opera safe enough for my use tbh, as long as I stick to not doing stupid shit... |
| 14:53.48 | Tekkub | bollocks? |
| 14:53.59 | Wobin | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yJsM1Tl7_jE |
| 14:54.01 | Pkekyo| | nothanks, Tekkub, I'm driving! |
| 14:54.12 | Wobin | the bloke says it about 45seconds in |
| 14:54.13 | Xion` | <3 Opera |
| 14:54.41 | Pkekyo| | Polarina: why? :p |
| 14:55.10 | fishbot2 | did someone get a copy of mouse.dll out of the trojan? |
| 14:55.16 | Pkekyo| | I'd imagine an addon that kept track of your currently accumulated gold and progress towards your epic flyer would be more useful /ponder |
| 14:55.18 | fishbot2 | I gave up trying to figure out where it was last night |
| 14:55.23 | Pkekyo| | fishbot2: trojan? what trojan? |
| 14:55.31 | fishbot2 | the wowui one |
| 14:55.34 | Polarina | Pkekyo|: I want someone who knows how to write something out correctly to congratulate me when I ding 70, instead of these "gz" or "gratz" messages from the guild channel. =D |
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| 14:55.58 | Ellipsis | then you should probably spell eligible right and replace "to" with "for" |
| 14:56.04 | Wobin | Oh Polarina, Congratulations on your most effortful advancement to the next level! |
| 14:56.05 | kenlyric | change the default message from Ding in automaton |
| 14:56.10 | fishbot2 | I assume NSIS downloaded it from somewhere but couldn't find where |
| 14:56.19 | SunTsu | Polarina: You want an addon that gives you a haiku when you turn 70? := |
| 14:56.22 | Polarina | Wobin: I still have 1/10 left. |
| 14:56.29 | Wobin | I'm getting in early |
| 14:56.32 | Wobin | before the rush |
| 14:56.41 | Polarina | Wobin: :D |
| 14:56.51 | Pkekyo| | rofl Polarina |
| 14:57.08 | Pkekyo| | fishbot2: wowui trojan? wha? |
| 14:57.16 | fishbot2 | read up |
| 14:57.24 | [Ammo] | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1 |
| 14:57.27 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1 |
| 14:57.41 | Xinhuan | ammo wins at speed pasting :( |
| 14:57.42 | Polarina | Pkekyo|: Roll on the floor as you want, I ain't cleaning the dust of your clothes! |
| 14:57.54 | [Ammo] | I stopped visiting that site after their first keylogger debacle a year or so ago |
| 14:57.58 | [Ammo] | maybe longer |
| 14:58.18 | Xinhuan | what happened in the first debacle? |
| 14:58.21 | Pkekyo| | ah, those fucktards |
| 14:58.21 | Wobin | aha |
| 14:58.24 | Polarina | [Ammo]: As far as I know, the official WoW website had a kaelogger in it.. |
| 14:58.24 | Wobin | it is sloblocks =P |
| 14:58.26 | Xinhuan | i didn't pay too much attention to it |
| 14:58.32 | Pkekyo| | Polarina: it's fine, cleaned my room yesterday :) |
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| 14:58.37 | Ellipsis | keys were logged, life goes on |
| 14:58.46 | Wobin | Polarina: not the official wow website =P |
| 14:58.54 | kenlyric | keylogger wow seems dumb. |
| 14:59.03 | kenlyric | 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 |
| 14:59.04 | Polarina | Wobin: That's what I heard.. |
| 14:59.10 | SunTsu | Hm, maybe that's the reason one of my guildies lost all his chars |
| 14:59.10 | Wobin | it was from wowui |
| 14:59.22 | kenlyric | there's a message in my alphabits. It's says "ooooooooooooooo" |
| 14:59.27 | Xinhuan | "wow accounts are worth more than credit cards these days" - something rushter said to that effect |
| 14:59.30 | Polarina | My account password is: *********** |
| 14:59.32 | Birdemani | ive had a few guys say they picked up a logger from warcraftmovies.com |
| 14:59.33 | Xinhuan | on his post |
| 15:00.36 | kenlyric | I'd be willing to bet 99.9% of people don't know where they got a keylogger from. |
| 15:00.41 | Pkekyo| | Polarina: self sensorship or irc server function? :) |
| 15:00.59 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: I know where they get them... PORN SITES |
| 15:01.03 | kenlyric | Pkekyo|: oh, IRC automatically masks passwords, don't you know? ;) |
| 15:01.13 | Polarina | Pkekyo|: No, I just suck at being an attenion whore.. |
| 15:01.22 | Polarina | s/attenion/attention/ |
| 15:01.43 | Ellipsis | I give lessons, if you're interested |
| 15:01.57 | Pkekyo| | kenlyric: never saw anyone giving away their password publicly, so no... |
| 15:01.58 | Wobin | kenlyric: hehe gogo bash.org =P |
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| 15:02.33 | Xinhuan | now even if i told you my password it wouldn't be of much use without my cryptic username ;p |
| 15:02.36 | kenlyric | deciding on video formats/sizes/quality is too much work. |
| 15:02.56 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: what's your password then? ;D |
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| 15:03.03 | Xinhuan | good one Ellipsis :) |
| 15:03.14 | kenlyric | 12345 |
| 15:03.15 | Wobin | haven't you typed your password here before, Xin? |
| 15:03.15 | Polarina | kenlyric: Record each frame as a raw bitmap and you're happy. :D |
| 15:03.18 | Wobin | Or was that someone else |
| 15:03.25 | Xinhuan | it was someone else ;p |
| 15:03.29 | Tekkub | I'm sure I have at least once |
| 15:03.33 | Wobin | kenlyric: That's the same as the combination on my luggage! |
| 15:03.35 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan is too leet to make a mistake like that |
| 15:03.37 | cogwheel | kenlyric: that's the same combination i have on my luggage |
| 15:03.37 | Xinhuan | and it probably was only the irc password with nickserv |
| 15:03.48 | Ellipsis | Wobin and cogwheel fail |
| 15:04.01 | kenlyric | my wife's credit card company won't let her set a pin starting with 1, I suspect because of 1234 |
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| 15:04.14 | Ellipsis | wow, that's incredibly dumb |
| 15:04.21 | fishbot2 | nice, removing 10% of the key space |
| 15:04.22 | kenlyric | because seriously, a 4 digit pin is so secure anyway. |
| 15:04.32 | fishbot2 | for ATM's it's pretty good |
| 15:04.41 | Wobin | starting with a 1 |
| 15:04.49 | Wobin | not totally removing it completely |
| 15:04.51 | fishbot2 | as the verification is done online, so three strikes and you're locked out |
| 15:04.59 | Birdemani | most of mine are 6 or more digits now, required by the bank |
| 15:05.00 | kenlyric | Wobin: it's still 10% |
| 15:05.12 | Tekkub | I don't get banks |
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| 15:05.25 | kenlyric | either amex or wamu limits my password to 8 chars. |
| 15:05.34 | kenlyric | a playstation3 can apparently crack it in a couple minutes. |
| 15:05.34 | Tekkub | mine thinks that serving me a picture I picked is somehow proof they're not a phishing site |
| 15:05.43 | Ellipsis | seriously, I just keep all my money under my mattress...who would think to look there, anyway? |
| 15:05.48 | Birdemani | lol i have the same bank then tekkub |
| 15:06.01 | Tekkub | Coors credit onion? |
| 15:06.03 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, all I need to do is find out where you live now. |
| 15:06.07 | Ellipsis | ohshi- |
| 15:06.25 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> (26 * 2 + 10) ^ 8 |
| 15:06.26 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 2.183401055849e+14 |
| 15:06.26 | Birdemani | nah, guess not. Only credit union I use is IBMs |
| 15:06.37 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Divide by zero? |
| 15:06.38 | Shirik|Ecole | kenlyric: I find that "couple minutes" hard to believe |
| 15:06.49 | Ellipsis | Wobin: you caught me :( |
| 15:07.14 | Pkekyo| | why not ellipsis? |
| 15:07.20 | Ellipsis | it's dangerous |
| 15:07.26 | Ellipsis | I might delete the interweb or something scary like that |
| 15:08.16 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 15:08.53 | SunTsu | .o0( Most crooks manipulate ATMs with traps, use magnet tape, so that it seems there is a card in the machine, but your PIN won't work. Then ther come in handy to help you. After you typed in your PIN thrice your Card won't come out, and they pick it up after you're gone ) |
| 15:09.02 | kenlyric | society functions best when it forgets everything once every few hundred years. |
| 15:09.03 | Shirik|Ecole | strangely enough |
| 15:09.08 | Shirik|Ecole | your PIN is actually encoded on your card |
| 15:09.13 | Shirik|Ecole | which I find to be pretty stupid |
| 15:09.23 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone who gets your card can get it off relatively easily |
| 15:09.35 | fishbot2 | er no |
| 15:09.40 | fishbot2 | not without the banks master DES key |
| 15:09.40 | SunTsu | Shirik|Ecole: No, it is not |
| 15:09.52 | Shirik|Ecole | fishbot2: Well someone has to have access to that, no? |
| 15:09.54 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMN5YMS3A&feature=related |
| 15:09.57 | fishbot2 | yeah, the bank |
| 15:10.02 | fishbot2 | in a hardware security module |
| 15:10.05 | SunTsu | I can easily let the bank change my PIN without a change to the card itself |
| 15:10.12 | Wobin | Pkekyo|: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMN5YMS3A&feature=related |
| 15:10.15 | Wobin | I guess =P |
| 15:10.21 | Xinhuan | its encoded to be strong enough that by the time the hacker decrypts it, the owner should have already reported the card loss |
| 15:10.33 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: wut? |
| 15:10.35 | Tekkub | ATM phones the bank to auth, why you think you enter pin and do the whole transaction before it's processed? |
| 15:10.40 | Ktwo | what cards are you talking about? |
| 15:10.41 | fishbot2 | SunTsu: the pin is derived from your account number |
| 15:10.48 | Pkekyo| | what is a denominator? |
| 15:10.54 | fishbot2 | the raw pin anyway |
| 15:10.58 | SunTsu | fishbot2: I guess that depends on the system |
| 15:11.07 | Wobin | fishbot2: what about user assigned pins? |
| 15:11.09 | fishbot2 | all ATM's use the same system designed by IBM aeons ago |
| 15:11.14 | Tekkub | and smart cards take it a step further in that the card has to be present to talk to the server to auth |
| 15:11.24 | fishbot2 | it's all described in rosses book |
| 15:11.32 | Pkekyo| | fucking maths...can't dake it anymore! damn you Wobin |
| 15:11.33 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 15:12.00 | Tekkub | bank gives the card a value, card encrypts it with it's private key, bank decrapts that with the matching key, if it matches what it sent the bank know the real card is present |
| 15:12.24 | Tekkub | and I'm getting tired I can't type |
| 15:13.27 | fishbot2 | http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-09.pdf |
| 15:13.28 | fishbot2 | page 199 |
| 15:13.31 | fishbot2 | describes the entire process |
| 15:15.10 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - its totally done in hardware |
| 15:15.59 | fishbot2 | Tekkub: that's also not how it works :p |
| 15:16.04 | fishbot2 | the cards generate MAC's IIRC |
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| 15:16.28 | sylvanaar_work | at least the encryption part - i know beause we have been trying to get pin entry working on wireless devices, but they need to go through a long certification process |
| 15:16.30 | Chompers | haha, divide by 0 |
| 15:16.30 | fishbot2 | and it works on the basis of shared secrets as doing RSA on a smartcard is expensive |
| 15:16.32 | Chompers | boom |
| 15:16.47 | Chompers | the mullet was more hilarious though |
| 15:17.27 | Tekkub | *shrug* not that I care, I don't have a card with a chip or an RFID and I honestly see no point to either tech |
| 15:17.48 | fishbot2 | because if you can dump the magstripe you can get rid of cloned cards |
| 15:17.50 | vhaarr | Anyone know how I can determine if the right mouse button is in a down state? I'm pretty sure there's some way, I just can't remember it OTOH. |
| 15:17.51 | Tekkub | RFID is beyond dumb, cashier already don't check cards like they should |
| 15:18.12 | sylvanaar_work | rfid for what? |
| 15:18.20 | Tekkub | plastic! |
| 15:18.35 | sylvanaar_work | you know rfid for store inventory tags exists\ |
| 15:18.35 | Xinhuan | try using OnDragStart for that vhaarr? |
| 15:18.40 | fishbot2 | RFID can be ok if you are very careful and check how many ms it took for the signal to arive to prevent MITM attacks |
| 15:18.46 | fishbot2 | arrive* |
| 15:18.46 | sylvanaar_work | that is an excellent use of it |
| 15:18.47 | Xinhuan | no wait that doesn't work |
| 15:18.50 | Tekkub | you know I worked at walmart, of course I know :) |
| 15:18.58 | Tekkub | I'm talking credit cards |
| 15:18.59 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: OnMouseDown? |
| 15:19.09 | Xinhuan | just register for onmousedown and up |
| 15:19.15 | Xinhuan | and the respective buttons |
| 15:19.16 | sylvanaar_work | ah |
| 15:19.19 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I mean globally, not just for a specific frame. |
| 15:19.20 | Tekkub | tech that keeps the card from passing thru the cashier's hands is bad |
| 15:19.24 | Pkekyo| | I hate the RFID crap :< |
| 15:19.29 | fishbot2 | Tekkub: why? |
| 15:19.32 | Xinhuan | doesn't sound possible |
| 15:19.36 | Tekkub | but, not that they ever check it like they're supposed to |
| 15:19.46 | Tekkub | fish, don't sign your card |
| 15:19.52 | Tekkub | write on it "See ID" |
| 15:19.57 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: across all frames? |
| 15:20.00 | Tekkub | see how often they ask for ID |
| 15:20.01 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: right |
| 15:20.03 | fishbot2 | we don't use signatures in the UK any more |
| 15:20.03 | Shirik|Ecole | Tekkub: I do that |
| 15:20.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I've been asked for my ID 3 times |
| 15:20.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I've had the card for 5 years |
| 15:20.13 | Tekkub | and how often do they ask you? |
| 15:20.19 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 15:20.24 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: not in general, i think you'd have to put a frame on top of everything else |
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| 15:20.28 | fishbot2 | it's all chip and pin |
| 15:20.31 | Shirik|Ecole | granted, my picture is on the front too |
| 15:20.35 | Shirik|Ecole | but I doubt they look at that |
| 15:20.37 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: was afraid of that, okay |
| 15:20.49 | fishbot2 | there were teo solutions the banks could have chosen, one cost about 10p more per card but wasn't vunerable to MITM attacks |
| 15:20.54 | fishbot2 | two solutions* |
| 15:20.56 | Tekkub | I always checked when I worked at wally |
| 15:20.58 | fishbot2 | guess which solution the banks took |
| 15:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | FYI, when I worked for Best Buy, I always asked |
| 15:21.04 | Shirik|Ecole | because it pissed me off when people didn't |
| 15:21.06 | fishbot2 | (and it's now costing them hundreds of millions in fraud) |
| 15:21.08 | Tekkub | and every "see ID" person said noone ever asks |
| 15:21.09 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.15 | Shirik|Ecole | yup, same Tekkub :) |
| 15:22.20 | SunTsu | Tekkub: I always congratulate cashiers that even mention to check my signature |
| 15:22.28 | SunTsu | manage eben |
| 15:22.30 | SunTsu | even |
| 15:22.54 | SunTsu | I need new fingers, the old ones have a hard time hitting the right keys |
| 15:22.56 | Cryect | Yeah cashiers are great at signature authentication! |
| 15:23.06 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 15:23.18 | Tekkub | well, I don't see much point in checking the actual siggie, but I'm more than happy to oblige the people that take extra steps to protect their money |
| 15:23.30 | Tekkub | another example... open a checking acct |
| 15:23.47 | Tekkub | don't get your middle initial printed on the checks |
| 15:23.53 | Tekkub | ALWAYS sign with it :) |
| 15:24.04 | fishbot2 | not really their money is it |
| 15:24.05 | Cryect | They should check to see if it does say See ID on the back though :-p |
| 15:24.16 | fishbot2 | if you chargeback the merchant gets the bill |
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| 15:24.21 | fishbot2 | so that's why it's the merchants responsibility |
| 15:24.31 | Tekkub | yuppers |
| 15:24.33 | sylvanaar_work | by that measure post dated checks are not leagally binding either |
| 15:24.50 | Tekkub | plus the card should go thru the merchant's hands in case a capture request comes back |
| 15:25.01 | fishbot2 | so I couldn't give a monkeys whether or not the clerk checks my card |
| 15:25.09 | Tekkub | I had more than one of those, always fun telling em you can't give the card back |
| 15:25.13 | fishbot2 | cos it's his ass on the line if I'm an evil fraudster |
| 15:25.59 | Cryect | What do you do with the cards when you confisicate them? |
| 15:26.18 | Tekkub | they go str8 to the cash office |
| 15:26.34 | fishbot2 | our old merchant agreement said the employee who confiscated the card got £50 if the processor told you to keep it |
| 15:26.35 | Tekkub | they cut them up a specific way so they can't be used, but still read |
| 15:26.40 | Tekkub | send em in to the bank |
| 15:27.16 | Tekkub | I never got cash, walmart are greedy assholes |
| 15:27.25 | Tekkub | I know they get a reward for captured cards |
| 15:27.36 | fishbot2 | under the HSBC agreement it has to go to the employee |
| 15:27.51 | kenlyric | as both a customer and a clerk I have never seen credit card confiscation. I thought it was a TV myth. |
| 15:27.54 | fishbot2 | else you can tell them and they'll terminate the merchants processing agreement |
| 15:27.58 | Tekkub | hot smelly butt crack? |
| 15:28.43 | kenlyric | but, the only place I worked that took credit cards used a paper system, so there was no way for me to run across that as a clerk. |
| 15:28.48 | Tekkub | I had two captures, one that I knew was stolen but couldn't do anything about (but she didn't get anything), and one lady try to write bad checks on me |
| 15:29.02 | Tekkub | I was in jewelry, they were a bigger target than the rest of the store |
| 15:30.33 | Birdemani | Is there anyway to handle several mods that all try to increase combat log range themselves? I want to set the var to one thing but Assestment and Deadly Boss Mods seem to conflict |
| 15:31.17 | Cryect | Hook SetCVar? |
| 15:31.42 | Birdemani | not so certain how to do that, is there a wiki on that? |
| 15:32.17 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs |
| 15:34.17 | Tekkub | AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
| 15:34.22 | Tekkub | You have been banned for the following reason: |
| 15:34.22 | Tekkub | No reason was specified. |
| 15:34.23 | Tekkub | Date the ban will be lifted: Never |
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| 15:34.28 | Tekkub | incgamers :) |
| 15:34.39 | Tekkub | my only post? "/popcorn \n /cheer" |
| 15:34.50 | CIA-8 | 03trasher * r56258 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 15:34.50 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:34.50 | CIA-8 | - French Update |
| 15:34.51 | grennon | you guys are still talking about those guys? man, obsess much? |
| 15:35.10 | Tekkub | well you have to have an acct to read their threads |
| 15:35.17 | Tekkub | or I would have never even made one |
| 15:35.31 | grennon | here they are trying to provide a valuable service to the community and you internets posters go and smear them |
| 15:35.34 | grennon | for shame |
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| 15:36.00 | Xion` | yes, it's the communitys fault they have viruses :S |
| 15:36.34 | Pkekyo| | Tekkub: what'd you do? |
| 15:36.46 | Xion` | he just said? :o |
| 15:36.51 | Pkekyo| | nvm me |
| 15:38.01 | Shirik|Ecole | damn it Tekkub |
| 15:38.05 | kenlyric | someone needs to load up an evil .bat file in a mod on the svn |
| 15:38.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I was trying all last night to get banned |
| 15:38.08 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 15:38.52 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
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| 15:39.38 | Polarina | EU Scarshield Legion is being restarted. |
| 15:40.11 | Shirik|Ecole | of course, I told him he better not ban me |
| 15:40.14 | Shirik|Ecole | because he couldn't stop me |
| 15:40.25 | Shirik|Ecole | so I guess he knew it couldn't be helped |
| 15:40.27 | Tekkub | did he? :) |
| 15:40.41 | Shirik|Ecole | nope |
| 15:40.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I wanted him to though =( |
| 15:40.55 | Shirik|Ecole | but he did threaten it several times |
| 15:41.04 | Shirik|Ecole | which, by the way, makes me laugh at his latest post "nobody has been threatened" |
| 15:41.23 | Xinhuan | [11/29 23:40:07] <kenlyric> someone needs to load up an evil .bat file in a mod on the svn |
| 15:41.24 | Tekkub | well I wasn't silenced, that's for sure |
| 15:41.25 | Xinhuan | do it kenlyric |
| 15:41.33 | Xinhuan | i bet they will "virus scan" it |
| 15:41.35 | Xinhuan | and it'll be clean |
| 15:41.41 | Xinhuan | and allowed |
| 15:41.45 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 15:41.51 | Xinhuan | kerpesky? |
| 15:41.55 | Xinhuan | was that the one? |
| 15:41.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:42.08 | kenlyric | virus scanners are really only good at catching viruses you already know about. |
| 15:42.27 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 15:42.36 | kenlyric | or lazy newer versions of them. |
| 15:42.37 | Shirik|Ecole | and that was one of my comments that he ignored, as well |
| 15:42.55 | Shirik|Ecole | That he killed off everyone's complaints about viruses saying "oh no, I scanned it, it's clean" |
| 15:42.57 | Shirik|Ecole | moron |
| 15:43.01 | Shirik|Ecole | he should be shot |
| 15:43.35 | dreamss | u cn easly obscucate a virus and the virii scanner wont recognize the signature |
| 15:43.37 | grennon | was it only in that version of the exe or in older versions too? |
| 15:43.54 | dreamss | virus scanners are worthless |
| 15:43.58 | grennon | if it was in older versions, that would definitely be evidence of malice |
| 15:44.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't use a virus scanner :P |
| 15:44.08 | Shirik|Ecole | If I get one, it's my own damn fault |
| 15:44.12 | Pkekyo| | anyone here know anything about the Neptulon-EU server? |
| 15:45.08 | NoLife3 | what is wrong with the server? |
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| 15:46.09 | SunTsu | Shirik|Ecole: virus scanners tend to trigger something called risk compensation "Oh, I have a virus scanner, I am safe, I can click on anything I want to" |
| 15:46.41 | Pkekyo| | NoLife3: dunno, that's why I asked |
| 15:48.16 | Shirik|Ecole | battery about to die =( |
| 15:48.31 | Pkekyo| | why does people think saying 'last spot' will make everyone jump at the chance as if it was lethal not to? |
| 15:49.26 | Industrial | SunTsu: just dont have idiot friend that send you weird infected shit - fixed. :P |
| 15:49.37 | SunTsu | Shirik|Ecole: It's like a person I know who's like "Oh, I have an airbag, I don't have to put on seat belts, the airbag will save me" - which is plainly wrong |
| 15:50.17 | SunTsu | Industrial: It's all about chosing software wisely and not install anything you come by - and installing fixes |
| 15:50.21 | CIA-8 | 03Firik * r56259 10BunchOfBars/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:50.21 | CIA-8 | BunchOfBars: |
| 15:50.22 | CIA-8 | - some minor changes |
| 15:50.38 | Pkekyo| | tbh, it's all about not being a complete arsehat |
| 15:50.46 | SunTsu | Industrial: But you are right, yes |
| 15:50.47 | Industrial | ^ |
| 15:51.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Right, using one's brain is the best virus protection |
| 15:51.27 | kenlyric | defense in depth |
| 15:52.25 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: yes....finding safe pornsites is the second best virus protection :p |
| 15:52.45 | dreamss | hehehehhe |
| 15:52.53 | dreamss | http://reloaded.aceshells.com/~dreamss/xbox/IMG_0394.jpg |
| 15:52.55 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: The intent is for porn ;) |
| 15:52.56 | Industrial | ! |
| 15:53.03 | SunTsu | internet even |
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| 15:53.13 | Industrial | lool dreamss |
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| 15:53.52 | Shirik|Ecole | Battery: 0 min remaining |
| 15:53.52 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 15:54.03 | sb | go, buy a new one! |
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| 15:55.21 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: no, the internet is for scamming stupid tards browsing porn :) |
| 15:55.31 | dreamss | indus :P |
| 15:56.00 | deadlock | What would the tooltip called for when I put my mouse over a mob in the world.....Im using AF tooltip and its moved all of my tooltips to one spot but when i put my mouse over a MOB, the tooltips still attached to that. |
| 15:56.17 | Shirik|Ecole | why am I still here... |
| 15:56.22 | Shirik|Ecole | 3 minutes ago I had no battery left |
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| 15:57.00 | CIA-8 | 03rabbit * r56260 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Update the list of protected buffs to include TBC flasks and elixirs (finally :P). Thanks to Yves for the list! |
| 15:57.02 | kenlyric | reported |
| 15:58.01 | Shirik|Ecole | class over, peace! |
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| 15:58.40 | CIA-8 | 03speeddymon * r56261 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 15:58.40 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:58.40 | CIA-8 | -Initial separation. Split frame code into it's own file |
| 15:58.46 | Clasiccc | hello |
| 15:59.06 | Clasiccc | could anyone help me? |
| 15:59.36 | Clasiccc | auctioneer slash commands dont work, maybe someone could help with that? |
| 15:59.49 | Industrial | #norganna |
| 16:00.13 | [Ammo] | soo thread with warning is from 6 nov but rush says file is dated 28 nov, they probably uploaded a new version of the keylogger :) |
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| 16:03.36 | grennon | that would imply malice, though not conclusively |
| 16:04.16 | grennon | the obvious link being that keylogged accounts are used by some of the more nefarious gold farming wholesalers who sell to US resellers |
| 16:04.33 | grennon | so it certainly doesnt smell very nice |
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| 16:07.44 | fishbot2 | http://www.michaelsalamon.com/?p=21 |
| 16:08.35 | Shirik | heh |
| 16:08.39 | Shirik | I drive faster than the internets! |
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| 16:08.48 | Shirik | Shirik|Ecole is still online apparently |
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| 16:17.01 | Lukian | Kemayo, ping! |
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| 16:28.29 | Pkekyo| | yay...fell asleep at the keyboard |
| 16:28.50 | Xinhuan | ~golfclap Pkekyo| |
| 16:28.51 | purl | ACTION gives Pkekyo| a soft applause |
| 16:29.10 | CIA-8 | 03speeddymon * r56262 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 16:29.10 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:29.10 | CIA-8 | -English localization fixes. Other langs still need translations added and updated for the slight changes to the pre-existing ones |
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| 16:34.57 | Xinhuan | "also, wts blinkstrike, furious deck on argent dawn, kk" |
| 16:35.11 | Xinhuan | ROFL jeramy, subtle :) |
| 16:35.22 | Xinhuan | (also i'm from Blackrock server, wink wink, hi!) |
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| 16:40.47 | charon | evening |
| 16:41.15 | charon | though by UGT, i might as well call it morning and have another coffee for breakfast! |
| 16:44.14 | Xinhuan | wow at rushter |
| 16:44.24 | jeramy | Xinhuan, blackrock? |
| 16:44.31 | Xinhuan | yes, i am from blackrock ;p |
| 16:44.46 | jeramy | Xinhuan, thats okay, every time AD is down I log on my lvl 1 gnome there |
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| 16:45.01 | Xinhuan | i still have a character in <Blackrock Exiles> or whatever that guild is renamed to hehehe |
| 16:45.24 | jeramy | i think i donated gold to that guild's charter |
| 16:45.35 | Xinhuan | blizzard did indeed send out everyone a 3-hour ban though |
| 16:45.46 | jeramy | and i helped a bunch of them get to crossroads once |
| 16:46.00 | Xinhuan | its pretty funny when you go back and look at the screenshots |
| 16:46.04 | jeramy | instead of QQing about blackrock invasions, i was the dick that funded their guild charters |
| 16:46.10 | Xinhuan | because you know something like that will never happen again |
| 16:46.57 | Xinhuan | diao is from blackrock too ;p |
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| 16:47.51 | Kemayo | Lukian: Pong? |
| 16:48.09 | Lukian | hey hey |
| 16:48.23 | Lukian | can we get a keystroke for "take all items in this package" ? |
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| 16:48.54 | Lukian | shift+click has been rendered somewhat useless |
| 16:49.13 | Xinhuan | what addon are you talking about lukian? |
| 16:49.18 | Lukian | Bulkmail |
| 16:49.22 | Lukian | (inbox) |
| 16:49.42 | Kemayo | That would be hyperChipmunk whom you need to bug. |
| 16:49.42 | _rane | i'm trying to create a macro that casts a spell and says something. is there a way to get the target's class? |
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| 16:49.49 | Xinhuan | ^ what kemayo said |
| 16:49.56 | Lukian | ah that's right |
| 16:50.01 | Kemayo | Or Tekkub, to add it to expressmail. |
| 16:50.02 | Lukian | I always bug the wrong person :d |
| 16:50.07 | Xinhuan | meanwhile, you can try Postal, where shift-click works :D |
| 16:50.15 | Tekkub | add what? |
| 16:50.18 | Jaxon | Rushster is a horrible typist. |
| 16:50.31 | Lukian | Xinhuan, it takes the entire contents of the package? |
| 16:50.40 | Xinhuan | yes, because i wrote the code |
| 16:50.41 | Kemayo | Tekkub: Lukian wanted shift-clicking on a mail with multiple items to pick them all up at once. |
| 16:50.44 | Tekkub | so am I, but reediting his posts is just biting him in the ass |
| 16:50.56 | Tekkub | tried it, can't do it |
| 16:51.04 | Tekkub | so sticking with one item per click |
| 16:51.05 | Xinhuan | for Postal to make it work ;p |
| 16:51.07 | Vulcanus | Postal owns ;D And the support is great, he even took the time to reply while in an instance :) |
| 16:51.10 | Shirik | ...... |
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| 16:52.02 | Xinhuan | basically, the servers require a delay between taking each item out of the mail |
| 16:52.14 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 16:52.29 | Tekkub | and EM will never do timed removal |
| 16:52.34 | Xinhuan | so either a timer that takes an item out every 0.5s will work, OR just listen to BAG_UPDATE/UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED events and respond to them to get the next item |
| 16:52.43 | Tekkub | it happens when you click or EM don't screw with it |
| 16:52.53 | jeramy | Postal_Express was a direct ripoff of EM sanctioned by Tekkub |
| 16:52.59 | jeramy | i mean, loosely based on |
| 16:53.07 | Tekkub | I don't sanction anything |
| 16:53.13 | Tekkub | you're free to use my code |
| 16:53.17 | Xinhuan | Postal Express uses the bag_update/unit_inv_changed technique. Postal_OpenALl uses the every 0.5s technique |
| 16:53.23 | Xinhuan | and both works |
| 16:53.39 | Xinhuan | (don't ask me why grennon ;d) |
| 16:53.42 | Tekkub | I've never had consistant results with either |
| 16:53.54 | Tekkub | but then, the mail system might not be the POS it used to be |
| 16:54.06 | jeramy | no ive got the email, i asked "is it okay of i totally ripoff your mod" and you replied "sure, but you have to send me a RL pic" |
| 16:54.16 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 16:54.17 | Vulcanus | XDXD |
| 16:54.30 | Xinhuan | that would be a classic email |
| 16:54.37 | Tekkub | were you the one who said he had 13 inches? |
| 16:54.53 | NoLife3 | 13 inches of what? |
| 16:55.02 | NoLife3 | cheese? |
| 16:55.03 | Vulcanus | This is classic bash.org material |
| 16:55.14 | Tekkub | tauren |
| 16:55.26 | Vulcanus | Gnomes mating with taurens |
| 16:56.14 | evl | I think I have an addon playing CPU hog |
| 16:56.15 | Xinhuan | " No what I am saying is a scrtipt (php) is likely been added to the server. With that script they can do what they want on the server. They will only attack exe files becuase they are easy to get their changes into. So all they need to look for is any exe on the server then do their stuff. " |
| 16:56.20 | evl | whats the easiest way to figure out which |
| 16:56.24 | Xinhuan | omg, rush is making up theories now |
| 16:56.29 | Xinhuan | on what could have happened |
| 16:57.34 | Vulcanus | That's one long way to write "php shell script" |
| 16:58.03 | Xinhuan | i just went to the ui incgamers site |
| 16:58.05 | Vulcanus | A forum I admin got hit with one of those, and another forum I admin at I planted one |
| 16:58.05 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:58.07 | Xinhuan | by chance |
| 16:58.15 | Xinhuan | i just saw on the front page "UI Central 3.0 (Other)76 seconds ago" |
| 16:58.20 | Xinhuan | meaning it got updated |
| 16:58.23 | Xinhuan | like 1 min ago |
| 16:58.38 | SunTsu | .o0( Getting changes into file sis easy, so why does nobody bother spreading cryptographic hashes all around? ) |
| 16:58.40 | Tekkub | my theory is simple.... they got caught |
| 16:58.52 | Tekkub | now they're trying to destroy all the evidence :) |
| 16:58.55 | Vulcanus | got caught doing what? :p |
| 16:59.04 | Xinhuan | check the comments |
| 16:59.04 | Tekkub | fucking sheep? |
| 16:59.07 | Xinhuan | "UIC download is offline right now while we check an issue with a reported trojan in the file which appears to have been tampered with. As soon as I have more info I'll post here. Also note if you are already running UIC and it is fine you are not affected by this. This is for NEW installtaions only. If you installed UIC from the 28th onwards we advise a virus scan on your system as a precaution." |
| 16:59.17 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2106 |
| 16:59.40 | Vulcanus | Ya read that just now |
| 17:00.20 | Jaxon | I'm reading this thread on Incgamers that was started on the 5th of November |
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| 17:00.25 | Xinhuan | i've never kept so many open tabs in my firefox in my life |
| 17:00.29 | Xinhuan | one to each thread |
| 17:00.57 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 17:00.58 | purl | :/ |
| 17:01.00 | thul | safari ftw. |
| 17:01.05 | Vulcanus | Firefox ftw |
| 17:01.11 | Xinhuan | what do they do with tabs that's different from FF? |
| 17:01.14 | Vulcanus | I would die without AdBlock Plus |
| 17:01.30 | Vulcanus | They probs don't leak memory, but meh :p |
| 17:01.38 | Vulcanus | 4gb ram and a quad core, see what I care |
| 17:01.39 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 17:01.43 | thul | opera leaks mmory |
| 17:01.46 | thul | so does firefox |
| 17:01.55 | Lukian | aye |
| 17:02.01 | Xinhuan | i don't know, my firefox has been running for ~2 months now |
| 17:02.03 | Xinhuan | without closing it |
| 17:02.04 | Tekkub | leaks like an excited bear |
| 17:02.10 | Tekkub | I close FF daily |
| 17:02.14 | Xinhuan | and process manager says its only using 400 mb |
| 17:02.16 | Xinhuan | /shrug |
| 17:02.18 | Vulcanus | only |
| 17:02.23 | Tekkub | otherwise after about 3 days it gets very unruley |
| 17:02.28 | Xinhuan | and of that 400 mb, only 145 mb is in physical ram |
| 17:02.31 | Xinhuan | the rest is in the cache |
| 17:02.39 | Tekkub | yea that's the main problem with it |
| 17:02.44 | Tekkub | it eats VM |
| 17:02.49 | thul | Xinhuan: well, my firefox clogs 1GB physical ram after a day or two |
| 17:02.54 | Vulcanus | 400 mb is more than the combined ram usage of my system processes XD |
| 17:02.57 | Xinhuan | heavy surfer? hehe |
| 17:03.13 | Vulcanus | reducing the cache size helped for me though |
| 17:03.16 | Xinhuan | actually msn eats 200 mb VM, i should kill that but i have too many friends on it |
| 17:03.23 | SunTsu | .o0( w3m does tabs and images, too ;) ) |
| 17:03.35 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Kill them, too ;) |
| 17:03.36 | thul | safari uses 2.5g vm and 540 physical right now |
| 17:03.39 | thul | after a week on |
| 17:03.40 | Tekkub | 177MiB main, 260MiB total for me right now |
| 17:03.45 | Tekkub | open for ~20 hours |
| 17:03.51 | Xinhuan | hmm actually let me look closer |
| 17:04.04 | Xinhuan | none of my open applications/processes is usingless than 15 mb |
| 17:04.13 | Jaxon | SunTsu: i love w3m |
| 17:04.22 | Xinhuan | even epson printer driver is using 45 mb, with 2 mb in physical ram |
| 17:04.32 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 17:06.02 | Tekkub | it's amazing how the most useless programs are the ones that waste the most |
| 17:06.24 | Tekkub | vista's window manager... 165MiB |
| 17:06.27 | Xinhuan | hmm Fraps is apparantly using 1 mb physical and 80 mb virtual |
| 17:06.57 | Tekkub | catylist control center (something I only use once)... 40MiB |
| 17:07.02 | jeramy | i installed vista x64 on my new rig when i bought it since i got it with 4G of ram, and im a hobbyist who likes to tinker with operating systems |
| 17:07.12 | Tekkub | tortsvn, 30MiB |
| 17:07.16 | Tekkub | WTB more git |
| 17:07.16 | SunTsu | .o0( I wish everybody would switch from numerous proprietary IMs to jabber. Would make things so much easier ) |
| 17:07.16 | jeramy | im consistently amazed at the low quality of this release |
| 17:07.18 | thul | wow uses 700 real memory |
| 17:07.20 | Xinhuan | notepad++ is using 1.8 mb with 94 mb virtual -- note my notepad++ is open with NO files - just a Blank file |
| 17:07.31 | thul | SunTsu: well, what about webcamwhorism? :-( |
| 17:07.32 | Tekkub | vista runs fine for me |
| 17:07.40 | Tekkub | but if I do another install it'll be XP |
| 17:07.51 | jeramy | to get vista to be good on memory usage, i wound up disabling so much, its basically XP with broken firewire |
| 17:07.58 | [Ammo] | anyone having FPS isues on a non-duocore after 2.3 |
| 17:08.01 | Tekkub | but, well I ran my last XP install for like 4 years str8, so I don't see that happening |
| 17:08.01 | [Ammo] | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1739394019&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:08.03 | [Ammo] | I tried it |
| 17:08.09 | [Ammo] | and it's freaky but it works |
| 17:08.13 | [Ammo] | I have my fps back! |
| 17:08.16 | Xinhuan | is that the winamp thingy? |
| 17:08.20 | [Ammo] | wmp |
| 17:08.22 | [Ammo] | mediaplayer |
| 17:08.23 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:08.24 | [Ammo] | it works |
| 17:08.26 | Tekkub | whump |
| 17:08.26 | Xinhuan | ah yes wmp, not winamp |
| 17:08.28 | [Ammo] | stupid |
| 17:08.30 | [Ammo] | but it works |
| 17:08.30 | SunTsu | thul: I don't think that's impossible with jabber |
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| 17:08.42 | Xinhuan | read that 2 weeks back |
| 17:08.54 | Xinhuan | i found it interesting but discarded it as useless trash information ;p |
| 17:08.59 | [Ammo] | it's good info |
| 17:09.03 | [Ammo] | I decided, wtf, I'll try it |
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| 17:09.18 | [Ammo] | and I went from 6-10 -> 20 fps in shttrath |
| 17:09.27 | [Ammo] | with faster loading times |
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| 17:10.22 | [Ammo] | my pre 2.3 fps are back, so I am happy |
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| 17:10.50 | Polarina | Ding 70! |
| 17:11.11 | SunTsu | Polarina: Congratulations! |
| 17:11.15 | Tekkub | been there done that |
| 17:11.19 | SunTsu | Polarina: that long enough? ;) |
| 17:11.35 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 17:11.39 | Lukian | [Ammo], Xinhuan : htf does that speed up wow? |
| 17:11.47 | Xinhuan | nobody knows why Lukian |
| 17:11.50 | Xinhuan | it just works |
| 17:11.55 | Xinhuan | and only for some people |
| 17:12.12 | [Ammo] | it works for a lot of people and doesn't for another lot |
| 17:12.16 | [Ammo] | it only works on WinXP |
| 17:12.28 | [Ammo] | and it seems to only affect intel machines |
| 17:12.35 | Lukian | The only possibility i can think of is that it helps use both cpu cores through multitasking |
| 17:13.10 | Xinhuan | uh the only thing i can think of is that wmp hooks into the sound engine or something that makes wow run right |
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| 17:13.27 | Xinhuan | i don't imagine wmp to even be capable of multithreading - its not needed? |
| 17:13.47 | Lukian | ah the sound engine |
| 17:14.05 | Lukian | yes there's always been issues with that, even before the new system |
| 17:14.19 | Lukian | but one user mentions there that they already had the sound system disabled |
| 17:14.41 | Xinhuan | you mean - that user removed his sound card/drivers? |
| 17:14.47 | Xinhuan | and the problem persisted? |
| 17:14.55 | Lukian | not to that extent |
| 17:15.04 | Lukian | but that would be an interesting test |
| 17:17.45 | Fisker- | btw |
| 17:18.05 | Shirik | Anyone know what incgamersi.com is? |
| 17:18.10 | Fisker- | i think GM's are on purpose fixing stuff without acknowledging it to make it more likely that it was an UI issue |
| 17:18.20 | evl | I can't get PerformanceFU to show |
| 17:18.23 | evl | Any ideas? |
| 17:18.28 | evl | it doesn't have a slashcommand, no icon on minimap |
| 17:18.30 | Shirik | evl: Is it installed? |
| 17:18.32 | Fisker- | had an issue with my character being put in heroic mode on 3 different computers, with/without ui folders, and even after repairing WoW |
| 17:18.43 | Xinhuan | what do you mean fisker |
| 17:18.52 | Fisker- | when i login i'm set for heroic |
| 17:18.53 | Birdemani | its always set to heoric when you make a group |
| 17:18.57 | Birdemani | i get that as well |
| 17:19.02 | Fisker- | it's a bug |
| 17:19.05 | Birdemani | and master looter |
| 17:19.06 | Fisker- | it should be normal regardless |
| 17:19.15 | Fisker- | master looter is probably because of ora |
| 17:19.16 | Xinhuan | nah, i set my default to be non-heroic |
| 17:19.31 | Xinhuan | and whenever i make a group, its always nonheroic |
| 17:19.42 | Fisker- | there's no default setting |
| 17:19.47 | Fisker- | it's always supposed to be normal |
| 17:19.59 | Xinhuan | the default is whatever you left it at when you last led a group/raid |
| 17:20.08 | Fisker- | no it's not |
| 17:20.39 | Fisker- | and besides it didn't "save" that i chose normal as "default" |
| 17:20.43 | Birdemani | I dont have any FPS issues until I zone into a raid area. I can be in an active raid on an outdoor boss with no issues, but enter SSC, for instance and get in combat and I go down to 5fps |
| 17:21.00 | Fisker- | and on my 4th ticket they didn't answer me ingame but send me a mail to be online :I |
| 17:21.06 | Fisker- | and then after that it was fixed |
| 17:21.30 | harldephin | is there an energy ticker even if energy is full ? |
| 17:21.36 | NivFreak | ZA kills my frame rate |
| 17:21.39 | NivFreak | damn horizon |
| 17:21.54 | NivFreak | the dragonhawk boss is fun at 10fps ;) |
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| 17:22.07 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r56263 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 17:22.07 | CIA-8 | JewelTips: |
| 17:22.07 | CIA-8 | - Added a few enchants |
| 17:22.12 | Birdemani | try tanking vashj phase three at 4fps :/ |
| 17:22.33 | NivFreak | I've never tanked vashj |
| 17:22.34 | harldephin | because if there is an energy ticker, i want to see it somehow. |
| 17:22.36 | NivFreak | my guild is too scrubby |
| 17:22.38 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 17:23.47 | thul | hat is my problem with pitbull |
| 17:23.53 | thul | i want to time my cs-es in pvp |
| 17:23.58 | thul | when the ticker turns off when the bar is full.. |
| 17:23.59 | thul | well :-P |
| 17:24.53 | Pkekyo| | weren't blizz going to fix the Defiance talent bug in patch 2.3.2? |
| 17:25.27 | Birdemani | yes |
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| 17:25.27 | Pkekyo| | well, it didn't |
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| 17:25.43 | Gngsk | harldephin, which ticker you talkin'bout? |
| 17:26.03 | harldephin | the energy ticker, when energy is at 100 (%). |
| 17:26.14 | Gngsk | 'the energy ticker' is my question |
| 17:26.21 | Gngsk | which one? |
| 17:26.34 | harldephin | never played a rogue or druid, have you? |
| 17:26.55 | Gngsk | :X |
| 17:27.00 | harldephin | rogues don't have mana, they have energy |
| 17:27.09 | evl | use kEnergy |
| 17:27.13 | harldephin | as well as druid in cat form |
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| 17:27.35 | Gngsk | my question is, which energy ticker are you referring to? any of them in particular? |
| 17:28.32 | thul | <- energywatch |
| 17:28.33 | thul | :-P |
| 17:29.04 | Gngsk | !c us runetotem gngsk |
| 17:29.06 | ThraeBot | Gngsk: Gngsk, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (15/41/5). 11014 HP; 4310 Armour; 1984 AP; 420.800 Melee DPS; 34.78% melee crit; 253 melee hit; 35.01% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10); 45 shadow resist; +25 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 1493 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b8vax ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wg7do ][ Updated: Thu Nov 29 12:29:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:29.53 | thul | !c eu balnazzar thyve |
| 17:31.17 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us terenas hototo |
| 17:31.21 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Osstia vs Hototo! A L70 priest and a L70 warlock square off!; 39/22/0 vs 5/42/14; Hototo wins by 865 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 17:31.53 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 17:31.57 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Osstia vs Shaytan! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 39/22/0 vs 17/44/0; Shaytan wins by 1444 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 17:32.02 | thul | hmm |
| 17:32.06 | thul | ThraeBot doesen't like me |
| 17:32.13 | Tekkub | Tit Boob Racks? |
| 17:32.24 | Osstia | !c us terenas hototo |
| 17:32.24 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Hototo, Level 70 Human Warlock (5/42/14). 10836 HP; 7890 Mana; 144 mana regen; 10 mp5; 139 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 577 +spell dmg/heal; 51 shadow dmg (628); 4.36% dodge; 208 resilience;[[ TBR: 1500 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b7d8s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36h3dr ][ Updated: Thu Nov 29 12:31:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:32.41 | Gngsk | ~tbr |
| 17:32.42 | purl | rumour has it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 17:32.52 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad huklos us kel'thuzad shaytan |
| 17:32.55 | ThraeBot | Osstia: Huklos vs Shaytan! Two 70 rogues square off!; Shaytan wins by 377 TBRs! |
| 17:33.11 | Osstia | !c us kel`thuzad osstia |
| 17:33.11 | ThraeBot | Sorry Osstia, you must wait 44 seconds before making another request. |
| 17:34.01 | Osstia | !c us kel`thuzad osstia |
| 17:34.02 | ThraeBot | Osstia: osstia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 17:34.15 | Osstia | !c us kel'thuzad osstia |
| 17:34.15 | ThraeBot | Sorry Osstia, you must wait 241 seconds before making another request. |
| 17:34.29 | thul | !c eu balnazzar thyve |
| 17:35.10 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us terenas satinka |
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| 17:35.30 | ThraeBot | Sorry Osstia, you must wait 166 seconds before making another request. |
| 17:35.47 | Gngsk | that's the bot's subtle way of telling you to stop spamming |
| 17:35.54 | Osstia | I thought so |
| 17:36.01 | Osstia | but its slow today |
| 17:36.07 | Osstia | I doubt he really minds |
| 17:36.12 | Gngsk | i believe it's speed depends on the armory |
| 17:36.15 | thul | atleast you get an answer :-( |
| 17:36.25 | Gngsk | no love for the eu community |
| 17:36.30 | Osstia | !vs us kel'thuzad osstia us terenas satinka |
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| 17:39.31 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168239568&postId=31679148962&sid=1#0 |
| 17:39.35 | Xinhuan | Hahahaha |
| 17:39.56 | Xinhuan | its funny because a blue replied too |
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| 17:40.59 | Tekkub | lesse, I have 3, hubby has 4 and a body pillow |
| 17:41.04 | Xinhuan | hmm my firefox has had 20.7 mil page faults in 1 month+ |
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| 17:41.37 | Tekkub | I, however, have uh.... 7 different blonkets and he just has o comforter |
| 17:41.39 | Xinhuan | ventrilo has had 11.8 mil since v3.0 was launched |
| 17:41.48 | Tekkub | I only use one of the blankets on the bed tho :) |
| 17:41.55 | Tornhoof | hehe xinhuan ;) |
| 17:41.55 | Tekkub | and they're all fuzzy |
| 17:43.31 | Osstia | 4 |
| 17:43.43 | Osstia | I got divorced, and still have the pillows |
| 17:43.46 | Osstia | what a shame |
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| 17:44.29 | Tekkub | hrm... 2:53 - 9:41 == 9 hours |
| 17:44.33 | Tekkub | rush wins! |
| 17:44.50 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowblues.com/us/ive-got-a-candle-and-ive-got-a-spoon-3168239437.html |
| 17:45.03 | Xinhuan | "Am I allowed to one-up with a hand sander and a Swiss Army Knife?" - Nethaera |
| 17:45.09 | Xinhuan | the mods are getting humourous today |
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| 17:48.50 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 17:48.52 | Osstia | cnc fanatics? as in C&C Music Factory? Please tell me is is true! |
| 17:49.06 | cncfanatics | as in command & conquer |
| 17:49.14 | Osstia | well blah |
| 17:49.41 | wereHamster | what is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/1000/ ? |
| 17:49.46 | Tekkub | I thought it was crack n' cocane |
| 17:50.12 | cncfanatics | wereHamster, an addon with an empty toc & lua file |
| 17:50.22 | Osstia | Looks mighty empty to me |
| 17:50.24 | thul | weird people. |
| 17:50.50 | CIA-8 | 03Firik * r56264 10BunchOfBars/Buffs/Buffs.lua: |
| 17:50.50 | CIA-8 | BunchOfBars: |
| 17:50.51 | CIA-8 | - I should test before I commit |
| 17:51.24 | Kemayo | wereHamster: I recall someone making it because they were amused by the 1000th addon being called 1000. |
| 17:51.42 | Tekkub | that's dumb |
| 17:51.46 | Kemayo | Yup. |
| 17:52.01 | Tekkub | I would have named it Thousand |
| 17:52.13 | Tekkub | and all it does is play Moby - Thousand when you enter comabt |
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| 17:52.41 | kaiden|work | lol |
| 17:52.56 | wereHamster | when you reach 1983 addons, can you name one 1984 ? :P |
| 17:53.44 | Fisker- | i thought it was cock n' cock |
| 17:55.17 | [dRaCo] | so what's the damage record log addon nowadays? |
| 17:55.20 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r56265 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 17:55.20 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 17:55.20 | CIA-8 | - fixed item ids |
| 17:55.46 | haste | nice boat |
| 17:56.02 | CIA-8 | 03pastamancer 07Beta * r56266 10Ace3/AceComm-3.0/AceComm-3.0.lua: |
| 17:56.02 | CIA-8 | Ace3: |
| 17:56.02 | CIA-8 | * AceComm-3.0 - prio is guaranteed to be set in SendCommMessage, no need for 'prio or "NORMAL"' in calls to CTL:SendAddonMessage. |
| 17:58.52 | [Ammo] | wereHamster: addon 1984 was called RockComm :p |
| 17:59.08 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:59.35 | [Ammo] | and yes I am kidding |
| 17:59.53 | _rane | is CowTip supposed to be able hide tooltips while in combat? |
| 18:00.26 | CIA-8 | 03cncfanatics * r56267 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Highlighting/Highlighting.lua): FlexBar2: Add fixes to macro features by balstor, thanks a lot :) |
| 18:00.51 | Gnarfoz | <[dRaCo]> so what's the damage record log addon nowadays? <-- /combatlog (or use LoggerHead or something to enable it automatically) and then wowwebstats ^^ |
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| 18:02.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 18:02.31 | [dRaCo] | no, more like what CritLine did back then |
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| 18:03.07 | kaiden|work | [dRaCo], are you asking for a damage meter? |
| 18:03.27 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 18:03.49 | kaiden|work | what exactly did critline do |
| 18:03.56 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r56268 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 18:03.56 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:03.56 | CIA-8 | - Inventory : update koKR locals |
| 18:04.38 | CIA-8 | 03damjau * r56269 10WhoDrop/ (5 files): WhoDrop - update for arena season 3. |
| 18:04.56 | Osstia | Does anyone know if sanity is stable and working now days? |
| 18:05.17 | [dRaCo] | it collected data about the highest damage an ability has done so far |
| 18:05.33 | [dRaCo] | like: highest fireball: 1k, highest fb crit: 2k, ... |
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| 18:06.01 | Gnarfoz | [dRaCo]: using FuBar_TopScoreFu for that, atm |
| 18:06.02 | cncfanatics | highest flexbar crit ! |
| 18:06.02 | kaiden|work | [dRaCo], oh! FuBar_TopScoreFu |
| 18:06.03 | kaiden|work | will do that |
| 18:06.06 | Osstia | I know there is a FuBar addin that does that |
| 18:06.09 | kaiden|work | Gnarfoz, jinx |
| 18:06.13 | Osstia | ^^ |
| 18:06.14 | Gnarfoz | d'oh! |
| 18:06.31 | kaiden|work | you even used the exact same capped letters as me |
| 18:06.34 | kaiden|work | get outta mah head! |
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| 18:06.53 | [dRaCo] | great, thanks =) |
| 18:07.04 | Osstia | does anyone know if Sanity is stable? |
| 18:07.06 | kaiden|work | [dRaCo], also recount will do the same thing |
| 18:07.11 | kaiden|work | on a much higher detail level |
| 18:07.31 | kaiden|work | Osstia, Bagnon is the only bag you should use *moans* |
| 18:07.32 | kaiden|work | ;p |
| 18:07.40 | Osstia | recount does everything for you doens't it? I heard it even makes coffee and lights cigarettes |
| 18:07.52 | Xinhuan | Osstia: Sanity isn't very stable and the author doesn't really update it, since Omen is almost always on a higher priority |
| 18:08.01 | Osstia | Okay |
| 18:08.36 | Osstia | I have 2 accounts and 20 active chars with bags. I just used it to find things because they get lost easily. is Bagnon capable of that? |
| 18:08.51 | [dRaCo] | kaiden: yeah, but recount is a total memory hog when activated for a long time |
| 18:09.03 | [dRaCo] | been looking for something more lightweighted |
| 18:09.06 | Osstia | nothing like needed [sharp claw] and having to log into 18 chars to find it |
| 18:09.13 | kaiden|work | Osstia, yes |
| 18:09.19 | Osstia | thanks for the tip kaiden|work |
| 18:09.21 | kaiden|work | bagnon keeps the data of every character it see's |
| 18:09.23 | kaiden|work | and all of their banks too |
| 18:09.29 | Gnarfoz | Osstia: BankItems could help, but it's not an inventory addon per se |
| 18:09.47 | Osstia | I just always like that sanity let me see my total gold, and search for items |
| 18:09.53 | kaiden|work | [dRaCo], meh, people complain about memory too much |
| 18:09.54 | Osstia | those 2 features were very useful |
| 18:10.01 | kaiden|work | it's too cheap these days to complain about |
| 18:10.21 | kaiden|work | my home machine has 4gb in it and i spent like 200 bucks on the ram and that was back when it was expensive |
| 18:10.22 | kaiden|work | :) |
| 18:11.05 | Gnarfoz | lol we buy 1gb sticks for ... 12 EUR or less oO it's insane |
| 18:11.51 | kaiden|work | it's just too bad windows doesn't really support above 8gb if you aren't using a server version |
| 18:12.11 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you could use it really |
| 18:12.17 | kaiden|work | i could |
| 18:12.35 | Osstia | if wow was using 8g you would be doing something terribly unproductive I would imagine :) |
| 18:12.51 | kaiden|work | if it could support 32gb of memory i would just run wow directly from memory |
| 18:13.00 | kaiden|work | on bootup cache it all into memory, the entire data files |
| 18:13.01 | Gnarfoz | single tasking is *so* last millenium |
| 18:13.02 | kaiden|work | and go nuts |
| 18:14.07 | Tornhoof | i hope you use 64bit windoze kaiden |
| 18:14.14 | kaiden|work | naw |
| 18:14.15 | Tornhoof | otherwise you're 4gb are kinda wasted |
| 18:14.24 | Gnarfoz | just 512mb of it |
| 18:14.24 | kaiden|work | meh, not really |
| 18:14.35 | kaiden|work | i dont really do much on my system short of playing wow |
| 18:14.36 | Tornhoof | yeh 512mb |
| 18:14.39 | Gnarfoz | 64 bit driver support etc is annoying |
| 18:14.48 | kaiden|work | exactly as gnarfoz said |
| 18:14.51 | kaiden|work | that's another reason |
| 18:14.56 | kaiden|work | however i have top of the line hardware so |
| 18:15.02 | kaiden|work | drivers tend to be rather easy to find |
| 18:15.16 | kergoth | it's really only the obscure hardware that isnt supported nowadays |
| 18:15.19 | kergoth | the major stuff works fine |
| 18:15.36 | fishbot2 | more than 512mb? |
| 18:15.46 | kaiden|work | well i run a streamlined version of windows xp and i just didn't really bother getting 64bit when i built the cd's |
| 18:15.56 | kaiden|work | i strip all the unnecessary crap out of it |
| 18:15.57 | fishbot2 | you've got the agp aperature, all the address space needed for DMA, the 1gb or so windows reserves for itself |
| 18:16.00 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I noticed that on my new box, almost everything works now. previously, be it 32 or 64bit, my Audigy wouldn't even work :< |
| 18:16.03 | kaiden|work | my startup memory usage is something like 17mb |
| 18:16.28 | kergoth | kaiden|work: nlite, or manually? |
| 18:16.34 | kaiden|work | nlite because i'm lazy |
| 18:16.39 | kaiden|work | used to go manual but that takes too long |
| 18:16.44 | kaiden|work | and i rebuild these cd's everytime i turn around |
| 18:16.45 | kaiden|work | :) |
| 18:17.00 | kergoth | i <3 vmware for testing new nlite cd builds |
| 18:17.09 | kaiden|work | *hack* i use VirtualBox |
| 18:17.11 | kaiden|work | YAY GPL |
| 18:17.19 | Pkekyo| | 2000:1 sufficient contrast for a LCD monitor? |
| 18:17.34 | kaiden|work | kergoth, VirtualBox from all of my testing runs leagues faster than vmware also |
| 18:18.11 | Xinhuan | hmm is google reader worth using? or is there some better alternative? |
| 18:18.19 | kergoth | huh, i'll have to try it out |
| 18:18.25 | kergoth | Xinhuan: i use google reader every day, works well |
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| 18:18.42 | Gnarfoz | that's a tech spec value, Pkekyo| ^^ as soon as you have two eyes, move (since you are a living, breathing being), blink or whatever, that number's gonna shrink quite a bit. but it's quite a high number, so there should be enough left in a real world scenario ^^ |
| 18:18.53 | kergoth | only thing that bugs me is you cant assign a feed to more than one tag as a whole. you put it in one "folder" (tag) and can add other tags to individual posts, but not to the feed |
| 18:19.15 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz....wha? |
| 18:19.26 | kergoth | hah, http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071129/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_ireland_guinness;_ylt=AtCHonMoiVuAdwRdsOo6Gjedk3QF |
| 18:19.49 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: 2000:1 means a white pixel is 2000 times as bright as a black pixel |
| 18:20.01 | Pkekyo| | yes...? |
| 18:20.31 | Gnarfoz | that's insane, you're never gonna get such high values on anything besides a test picture, measured in some kind of test facility |
| 18:20.34 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 18:20.44 | Pkekyo| | what I'm really asking, I guess is: is 2k sufficient? is 3k sufficient? |
| 18:21.14 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: what'd you recommend as a minimum contrast value then? |
| 18:21.24 | Gnarfoz | I'd say it's fine, but I'd rather read a review of the specific product |
| 18:21.25 | thul | 600:1 |
| 18:24.13 | Pkekyo| | 600:1? |
| 18:24.43 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck are everyone bragging about producing 2k and 3k:1 monitors then? :p |
| 18:25.05 | Pkekyo| | err...nevermind...capitalism |
| 18:25.24 | Chompers | not everything is pure white/pure black |
| 18:26.26 | Pkekyo| | hms? |
| 18:26.52 | CIA-8 | 03pastamancer 07Beta * r56271 10Ace3/AceComm-3.0/AceComm-3.0.lua: |
| 18:26.52 | CIA-8 | Ace3: |
| 18:26.52 | CIA-8 | * AceComm-3.0 - move magic numbers to top of file and refer to them by variable name. also clarified OnEvent. |
| 18:28.10 | Pkekyo| | holy jumping fucking jesus...some twat beat his two year-old daughter to death because she once forgot to say 'yes sir' and 'please' O.o |
| 18:29.33 | Fisker- | why can't craftlist output in combat? :I |
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| 18:30.55 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 18:31.31 | NeoTron | so here's a question |
| 18:31.46 | NeoTron | the last 10% on archimonde - do ou need to DPS him or do the wisps do all the work ? |
| 18:32.20 | Xinhuan | you need to kill him in 60 seconds, or you wipe |
| 18:32.50 | NeoTron | I just looked at the damage meters |
| 18:32.54 | Pkekyo| | morning Zhinjio |
| 18:32.55 | NeoTron | the wisps really didn't do anything |
| 18:32.57 | Xinhuan | when you enter the 10% phase, tyrande casts a debuff (a buff actually, that you can't click off) that makes you immune to all damage |
| 18:33.01 | Xinhuan | for 60 seconds |
| 18:33.12 | NeoTron | yeah I know |
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| 18:33.22 | NeoTron | we killed him last night :P |
| 18:33.23 | Xinhuan | during this phase, archimonde casts finger of death pretty much.. chainc asting it |
| 18:33.34 | Xinhuan | so if you don't kill him in 60 secs, you wipe |
| 18:33.57 | kenlyric | bitch |
| 18:34.05 | kenlyric | why doesn't she cast that earlier? |
| 18:34.08 | Xinhuan | note that this "invulnerability" also makes you immune to the VE and VT heals that a spriest gives |
| 18:34.11 | Xinhuan | so you CAN go oom |
| 18:34.17 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 18:34.19 | NeoTron | it makes you immune to heroism too |
| 18:34.25 | Xinhuan | its pretty funny |
| 18:34.28 | NeoTron | but we already knew that |
| 18:34.32 | NeoTron | we had no deaths so it was easy |
| 18:34.41 | NeoTron | especially since healers can dps too |
| 18:34.46 | Xinhuan | i'll be surprised if you killed him with more than 1 death |
| 18:34.57 | NeoTron | ah actually I guess we did have one death |
| 18:35.00 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.11 | Xinhuan | the 1 death must be a cheap easy 4.5k damage charge then |
| 18:35.22 | NeoTron | I had 47% DPS tiem |
| 18:35.23 | Xinhuan | not the 4-sec silence-n-wipe one |
| 18:35.24 | NeoTron | fire FTW |
| 18:35.39 | NeoTron | it was a druid.. so yes |
| 18:36.38 | Pkekyo| | I hate fucking stuttering narrators! |
| 18:36.43 | thul | i want a nice vent for osx :-( |
| 18:36.45 | thul | is that so hard:( |
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| 18:49.23 | thul | I'm like 100dps behind the mages :-( |
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| 18:50.59 | CIA-8 | 03scorpio0920 * r56272 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.tw.lua: |
| 18:50.59 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 18:50.59 | CIA-8 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 18:52.22 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56273 10PackageTooltip/ (. PackageTooltip.toc core.lua): PackageTooltip: Mail package contents in tooltip. |
| 18:54.00 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56274 10PackageTooltip/core.lua: PackageTooltip: Needs a closing ). |
| 18:54.58 | Birdemani | is combatlog range max at 200 or 250? |
| 18:55.06 | kergoth | Kemayo: nice |
| 18:55.42 | Kemayo | kergoth: It's totally drycoded, so hold off the praise until it's found to actually work. :D |
| 18:55.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:56.52 | ag` | Kemayo, what's that? |
| 18:57.58 | Kemayo | ag`: It sticks all the items in a mail with multiple items into the tooltip for that mail. |
| 18:58.20 | Pkekyo| | any of you yanks play the guitar/piano or something? |
| 18:58.23 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56275 10AltClickToAddItem/ (AltClickToAddItem.lua AltClickToAddItem.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:58.23 | CIA-8 | AltClickToAddItem: |
| 18:58.23 | CIA-8 | - added embeds.xml |
| 18:58.23 | CIA-8 | - should now properly install dependencies using WAU |
| 18:59.03 | ag` | Kemayo, :o |
| 19:01.07 | Cyrez | I wish there was an easier way to find the Ace3 addons. |
| 19:01.08 | Pkekyo| | wtb yank that plays an instrument |
| 19:01.28 | Pkekyo| | ace3've gone live allready? |
| 19:01.45 | Cyrez | No, but if you know where to look there are things to test. |
| 19:02.13 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56276 10AltClickToAddItem/: |
| 19:02.13 | CIA-8 | AltClickToAddItem: |
| 19:02.13 | CIA-8 | - oops, Libs folder is now libs |
| 19:02.20 | Cyrez | If you were to version it, it'd be something like pre-RC1. |
| 19:02.28 | Xinhuan | Kemayo, postal already has that feature ;D |
| 19:02.51 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I don't use Postal, so nyaa. :P |
| 19:02.54 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 19:03.20 | Birdemani | Isn't altclick already a default option in the game now? |
| 19:03.29 | Xinhuan | that's right-click |
| 19:03.37 | Xinhuan | and doesn't have AH support |
| 19:04.09 | kergoth | Birdemani: not everywhere it isnt |
| 19:04.13 | Xinhuan | you'll still need altclicktoadditems to alt-click an item into the AH item box or otherwise drag it in slowly |
| 19:05.17 | cncfanatics | anyone, how is ace3 coming along ? :) |
| 19:06.11 | CIA-8 | 03bigzero * r56277 10Mirror/Mirror.lua: |
| 19:06.12 | CIA-8 | Mirror: |
| 19:06.12 | CIA-8 | - preventing potential problem with :GetName() returning nil (no clue when that could happen, but better be safe than sorry) |
| 19:06.12 | CIA-8 | 03kemayo * r56278 10PackageTooltip/core.lua: PackageTooltip: (Still drycoded.) Probably needs to call GameTooltip:Show. |
| 19:06.45 | kergoth | whats Mirror? |
| 19:06.49 | Xinhuan | kemayo is correct on that one ;p |
| 19:06.56 | Xinhuan | it does need a :show() ;d |
| 19:07.14 | kergoth | cncfanatics: quite well, the ace3 aguf works very nicely. aceconfig3 is pretty sexy |
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| 19:08.15 | Kemayo | Well, good thing I added it in, then. :D |
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| 19:09.18 | |Stan| | kergoth: EQCompare reloaded |
| 19:09.18 | Antiarc | Morning everyone |
| 19:09.18 | Xuerian | 'Morning |
| 19:09.20 | Xinhuan | Kemayo: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/gmreply3.jpg |
| 19:09.20 | |Stan| | mornin |
| 19:09.29 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:09.33 | Xinhuan | that SS shows the tooltip i've added for postal |
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| 19:09.40 | Xinhuan | you can prob imitate it |
| 19:09.47 | kergoth | cant say its really that difficult to hold shift down to see a compare tooltip, but okay |
| 19:09.47 | cncfanatics | kergoth, would it be ready for real use ? |
| 19:10.14 | kergoth | cncfanatics: think there are like 8 ace3 branches of addons in the svn atm, take a look |
| 19:10.15 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I'm doing everything apart from the header already, I believe. |
| 19:10.28 | Kerafyrm | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.28 | Xinhuan | also the 5 gems rewarded is pretty retarded |
| 19:10.38 | Xinhuan | i expected 5 EPIC gems |
| 19:10.41 | Xinhuan | not 5 RANDOM gems |
| 19:10.43 | Kerafyrm | wake up and catch up on the ui forum thread with our dearest of friends Rushter and ... just wow |
| 19:11.27 | kergoth | speaking of gems, the consortium need to get off their lazy asses and mail my benefits |
| 19:11.31 | kergoth | can they not afford postage? |
| 19:11.45 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 19:11.55 | Xinhuan | 30 copper per attachment buddy |
| 19:11.59 | Xinhuan | its a lot of money |
| 19:12.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:12.09 | Kemayo | They've bankrupted themselves by mailing out all those gems to everyone in the game. |
| 19:12.09 | kergoth | i alawys forgot to go to nagrand every month :( |
| 19:12.23 | Xinhuan | make an addon then |
| 19:12.27 | Xinhuan | make it spam a reminder |
| 19:12.28 | Kemayo | s/mailing/giving/ |
| 19:12.44 | Xinhuan | for taking those gems |
| 19:13.42 | kergoth | thats a good idea, easy enough, just make it periodically whine until you go talk to that vendor and get em |
| 19:14.11 | Xinhuan | i just dont like having 1000 small addons each doing some small thing though |
| 19:14.39 | Xinhuan | just makes for more folders and more files to sift thru |
| 19:14.40 | kergoth | why not? just the clutter? |
| 19:14.47 | Xinhuan | also makes loading time longer |
| 19:15.05 | Xinhuan | if a mod is sufficiently small enough, i just rip out the code, and copy paste the whole thing into one of my own addons |
| 19:15.13 | Xinhuan | or rewrite it even |
| 19:15.27 | Xinhuan | and that mod is called XinMod ;d |
| 19:15.34 | Xinhuan | which is just a bunch of local changes |
| 19:16.36 | Xinhuan | for example one of those 2 line code changes is replacing GuildDisband() with my own dummy function :) |
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| 19:17.50 | cncfanatics | tbh, I should add GuildDisband(); to flexbar2 |
| 19:18.34 | Gnarfoz | default bound to all newly created buttons? |
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| 19:18.58 | Xinhuan | hey its entirely possible to tabcomplete /gdisband hence i did that! |
| 19:19.04 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: what for, btw? |
| 19:19.09 | Gnarfoz | lol |
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| 19:19.24 | Xinhuan | should probably have just removed the /gdisband entry from the slash command table though |
| 19:19.27 | Gnarfoz | what addon does slashcmd tabcompletion for you? |
| 19:19.36 | Xinhuan | no addon. the default Ui does it |
| 19:19.41 | Gnarfoz | wut |
| 19:19.46 | Gnarfoz | ok I never tried ^^ |
| 19:19.53 | Xinhuan | you can see all the code in ChatFrame.lua or whatever file it is |
| 19:19.57 | Xinhuan | in the FrameXML |
| 19:20.03 | Xinhuan | for its tab completion |
| 19:20.04 | FinalX | Xinhuan: One of my former guild- & raidleaders kept forgetting /gdisband wasn't "group disband" but "guild disband". Go figure what funny situations that gave us. |
| 19:20.21 | FinalX | hi btw :D |
| 19:20.27 | Xinhuan | remember ctraid? it had a raid disband command |
| 19:20.27 | Gnarfoz | btw you have 48K gold? o_O you are insane ^^ |
| 19:20.28 | Xinhuan | what was it? |
| 19:20.35 | FinalX | yeah, /radisband |
| 19:20.38 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:20.44 | FinalX | but he kept typing /gdisband instead |
| 19:20.53 | Xinhuan | i actually typed /gdisband before -- thankfully i was on my ALT at that time and not my main |
| 19:20.56 | FinalX | so after the third time he decided to promote a lvl 10 alt to guildmaster :P |
| 19:21.06 | Xinhuan | so i overwrote that GuildDisband() function forever |
| 19:21.29 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: i have 58k gold now |
| 19:21.36 | Gnarfoz | oO -.- |
| 19:21.37 | Xinhuan | i earned 14k gold on Season 3 launch day in the first 15 hours |
| 19:21.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah figures |
| 19:21.49 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 19:21.53 | Gnarfoz | lots and LOTS of gems and enchant mats sold |
| 19:22.00 | FinalX | i bet lol |
| 19:22.03 | cncfanatics | XInhuan, heh, enchants & gems are ace atm |
| 19:22.07 | kergoth | damn |
| 19:22.10 | Xinhuan | it was like cutting nonstop for 12 hours |
| 19:22.11 | cncfanatics | wish I was lvl 70 already |
| 19:22.16 | kergoth | i think i like like 550 gold total |
| 19:22.17 | cncfanatics | so I could make cash too :( |
| 19:22.18 | Xuerian | You'd make goldfarmers cry |
| 19:22.46 | Xinhuan | so of that 14k gold, 3k went to paying the guy that offered me a merciless gladiator mount ;p |
| 19:22.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm at 200g or so after buying my second char his 300 riding skill + mount :< |
| 19:22.53 | winkiller | What the... from one second to the other my performancefu jumped to "Ace2 - 80 MB used, 127 in total- 7 fps |
| 19:23.01 | Xinhuan | hence 48k + 11k = my current gold of 58k or so |
| 19:23.41 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 19:23.47 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: huh? that'd have to have been before tuesday, though? |
| 19:23.50 | cncfanatics | if i was lvl 70 I would have been buying all ada stacks in AH |
| 19:23.57 | cncfanatics | prospect em all, & sell gems :) |
| 19:23.58 | Xinhuan | i paid him 3k AFTER i got the mount, not before |
| 19:24.02 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:24.07 | Gnarfoz | right :P |
| 19:24.26 | Xinhuan | he was like "meh, 3k gold for 1 night of work, easy. i should charge more next season" |
| 19:24.26 | kergoth | i like prospecting ore from the ah, but they keep trying to sell stacks for 25-30g, they can go fuck themselves |
| 19:24.29 | Gnarfoz | must be fun having insane amounts of cash at your disposal |
| 19:24.38 | cncfanatics | kergoth; 20g max for a stack of ada ofc |
| 19:24.40 | Xinhuan | i was like "hah, if they tie the gladiator title to personal rating, you won't be able to sell it" |
| 19:24.51 | kergoth | cncfanatics: indeed |
| 19:24.57 | Gnarfoz | you US servers and your low prices :< damn you all :< |
| 19:25.00 | cncfanatics | just need to get to 70 already |
| 19:25.05 | Xuerian | You think 20 is good? |
| 19:25.05 | cncfanatics | I'm EU Gnarfoz |
| 19:25.09 | Xinhuan | not exactly, i buy all stacks of ore under 28g |
| 19:25.11 | cncfanatics | 20 is fine |
| 19:25.15 | Xuerian | Try being a miner on Arathor... they sell hard at 18g |
| 19:25.15 | Xinhuan | yes, i buy the ones at 28g per stack too |
| 19:25.17 | cncfanatics | 25 is doable too I guess |
| 19:25.26 | Xinhuan | even 29g if the gem prices are good |
| 19:25.36 | cncfanatics | what gem prices on ur server ? |
| 19:25.44 | Gnarfoz | s/US servers/good pop + economic servers/ |
| 19:25.49 | Xinhuan | "normal prices"? or "season 3 rush prices"? |
| 19:25.49 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 19:26.01 | kergoth | up to 28g? hmm |
| 19:26.09 | Xinhuan | solid stars are ~45-50g normally |
| 19:26.17 | Xinhuan | living rubies about 50 |
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| 19:26.26 | Xinhuan | and i mean the cut ones, i don't sell uncut gems |
| 19:26.29 | Xinhuan | talasites about 7g |
| 19:26.36 | Xinhuan | dawnstones about 25 |
| 19:26.47 | Xinhuan | topazes about umm 40 |
| 19:26.54 | Xinhuan | what did i miss? |
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| 19:27.35 | NeoTron | so prospecting ore is a good business? |
| 19:27.45 | Xinhuan | yes it is - but this varies by server |
| 19:27.48 | NeoTron | I've been considering trying it but it seems like such a gamble |
| 19:27.51 | Xinhuan | depending on economy |
| 19:28.00 | Xinhuan | i'll show you why it isn't a gamble in a minute - grabbing a SS |
| 19:28.26 | kergoth | i hate the streaks of multiple stacks with no blues, but i'm sure over time it balances out |
| 19:28.27 | NeoTron | what is the long-term expected gem per ore ? |
| 19:28.52 | NeoTron | do you sell green gems too? |
| 19:28.52 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm taking a SS of right now |
| 19:28.53 | Xinhuan | hold on |
| 19:28.55 | NeoTron | out of curiosity |
| 19:28.57 | Xinhuan | yes i do |
| 19:29.01 | NeoTron | cut? |
| 19:29.05 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 19:29.06 | Xinhuan | but most get vendored until i reazlied |
| 19:29.11 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:29.14 | NeoTron | I tend to vendor them |
| 19:29.14 | Xinhuan | realized that they can mostly be turned into rings and DEed |
| 19:29.17 | Xinhuan | for twice the profit |
| 19:29.26 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:29.29 | Xinhuan | and sell them uncut in stacks of 3s for transmuters to buy |
| 19:29.32 | Xinhuan | works like a charm |
| 19:29.36 | Xinhuan | i don't vendor them anymore |
| 19:29.49 | NeoTron | I think I should start trying to do this if the ore prices are ok |
| 19:30.11 | Zhinjio | ore prices are sucking ass on my server this past week. |
| 19:30.17 | Zhinjio | so to speak. |
| 19:30.22 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 19:30.43 | thul | if I don't go to egypt in january, I'm so getting a power-desktop machine :-P |
| 19:31.22 | NeoTron | I do suppose it would be useful to keep track of exactly how much you spend and make on such a business |
| 19:31.33 | Xinhuan | Kemayo: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/prospectinfo.jpg |
| 19:31.37 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 19:31.41 | NeoTron | might reach a poin then where you learn the expected "value" of a stack of ore |
| 19:31.42 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: lol you even named your team 3k gold ^^ |
| 19:31.43 | Xinhuan | i shouldn't have prefixed the name |
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| 19:31.51 | Xinhuan | the seller named it |
| 19:31.52 | Xinhuan | i didn't! |
| 19:31.56 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 19:32.04 | Xinhuan | ok i used an addon called ProspectInfo |
| 19:32.09 | NeoTron | what is that "prospects' tooltip? |
| 19:32.10 | Xinhuan | which tracks the prospecting rate |
| 19:32.13 | NeoTron | ah nm you just said |
| 19:32.15 | NeoTron | I will get that |
| 19:32.19 | Xinhuan | you can find that addon at... incgamers :D |
| 19:32.31 | Pkekyo| | fucksake...can't stop listening to JerryC's canon rock arrangement O.o |
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| 19:32.46 | Xinhuan | from that screenshot, you can see that the average rate of getting a blue gem is about 23% |
| 19:32.46 | NeoTron | 59k gold?!~ |
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| 19:32.56 | Xinhuan | just add up all the % for them |
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| 19:33.07 | NeoTron | so basically you get about 1 blue gem per stack of ore |
| 19:33.13 | Xinhuan | yes that is the average |
| 19:33.17 | Pkekyo| | 59k gold? I hate you Xinhuan! :p |
| 19:33.23 | Xinhuan | so the average is every 6 stacks you prospect, you get 1 of each rare gem |
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| 19:33.33 | Xinhuan | so you figure out the cut-price-rate for each color |
| 19:33.39 | cncfanatics | best way to know if its worth it |
| 19:33.42 | cncfanatics | check cut gem prices for all gems |
| 19:33.43 | Xinhuan | and see if its profitable, takinginto account the greens as well |
| 19:33.44 | cncfanatics | average them out |
| 19:33.51 | cncfanatics | and check if the average gem price is above the stack of ada price |
| 19:33.55 | Xinhuan | see the number there? |
| 19:34.09 | Ktwo | hi you know any alternative addon for wardrobe2 (it shows up as outdated) |
| 19:34.11 | Xinhuan | Prospects: 26151 |
| 19:34.22 | Xinhuan | that means i've prospected ada ore 26k times |
| 19:34.32 | Xuerian | (holycrap >.<) |
| 19:34.32 | Xinhuan | which is 26151*5 = 130755 ore |
| 19:34.42 | Xinhuan | or about 6537.75 stacks |
| 19:35.02 | Xinhuan | i resetted my prospect count in patch 2.1 patch day because they changed the prospecting rate % |
| 19:35.02 | Xuerian | The question isn't how much gold you have, it's how much gold you've spent on adamantite o_0 |
| 19:35.13 | Xinhuan | ore price avg about 25g per stack |
| 19:35.15 | Xinhuan | go figure |
| 19:35.31 | cncfanatics | about 162k gold |
| 19:35.33 | Xuerian | Soooo... about 163k 0_o |
| 19:35.41 | Xinhuan | my daily MoneyFu says something like... 3.2k spent, 3.8k earned |
| 19:36.02 | thul | 600g pr day? wouldn't it be easier to farm primal manas or nether drake scales? :-P |
| 19:36.14 | Xinhuan | its easier to just sit in IF |
| 19:36.17 | cncfanatics | eh, u won't win as much cash as with gems tbh |
| 19:36.21 | cncfanatics | and people are lazy indeed |
| 19:36.29 | Xinhuan | i'm an addon writer remember? |
| 19:36.34 | Xinhuan | i sit in IF and write mods |
| 19:36.45 | Xinhuan | then i alt-tab and sell gems/enchants |
| 19:37.02 | fridg | fuck, somebody take my cisco hands on final for me |
| 19:37.11 | thul | well, 200-300g pr hour is quite easy if you do heavy clefthoof leather, nether drake scales or primal manas :-P |
| 19:37.20 | Xinhuan | that is true thul ;p |
| 19:37.38 | Tornhoof | heh nether drake scales don't go well here |
| 19:37.46 | Xinhuan | hmm, appears that Tears of the Goddess is still bound to "1" |
| 19:37.50 | |Stan| | Xinhuan: you are a scarab lord? |
| 19:37.55 | Xinhuan | stan: yes |
| 19:38.00 | Xinhuan | and a grand marshal |
| 19:38.02 | thul | Tornhoof: 20 for 170-200g here |
| 19:38.09 | thul | or, the last few weeks it has been like that |
| 19:38.18 | thul | 20 heavy clefthoof for 80-120g |
| 19:38.31 | thul | 20 primal manas for 70-110g |
| 19:38.47 | fridg | i still find it funny the number of mod writers who actually play the game |
| 19:39.06 | cncfanatics | fridg, most of them tbh |
| 19:39.28 | Xinhuan | well fridg, most authors write mods BECAUSE they want something to complement their playing environment/ui |
| 19:39.48 | fridg | yup |
| 19:39.50 | xyu` | or "someone" |
| 19:39.58 | fridg | i do it mainly for the poon |
| 19:40.15 | fridg | chicks go nuts for mod authors |
| 19:40.31 | Xinhuan | for something that is provided "free", few people would otherwise write mods |
| 19:40.40 | Xinhuan | if you get what i mean |
| 19:40.44 | fridg | yeah |
| 19:40.44 | kergoth | hm, 200-300g per hour is that easy? i should farm more. |
| 19:40.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:40.50 | fridg | which si crappy |
| 19:41.01 | fridg | the incentive to write mods shouldn't be just becasuse you hate everything else |
| 19:41.06 | Xinhuan | so i figure - write mods, make gold at the same time :) |
| 19:41.07 | fridg | i dunno hwo id fix it but yeeh |
| 19:41.28 | thul | kergoth: well, I suddenly realized that i could do 2 stacks of nether drake scales in 50-60 minutes.. aka at least 300g on my server. |
| 19:41.32 | thul | that is ok with me :-P |
| 19:41.33 | Pkekyo| | You're so dumb, when someone told you to "do the robot", R2-D2 got HIV! |
| 19:41.36 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 19:41.45 | cncfanatics | fridg, why would I bother to write mods if I like something else already ? |
| 19:42.10 | Xinhuan | btw i remember linking a screenshot last week or so |
| 19:42.12 | fridg | i don't get what your point is |
| 19:42.15 | Xinhuan | of a guy in DnT with 214k gold |
| 19:42.23 | Xinhuan | and an error message across the middle of his screen |
| 19:42.33 | Xinhuan | "Gold limit reached" - in the red error text |
| 19:42.36 | cncfanatics | lol ? |
| 19:42.37 | kergoth | wonder what pet is optimal for farming. boar works, but charge is on a 25-30 sec cd, which is annoying when there's a lot of mobs |
| 19:42.43 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^31 - 1 |
| 19:42.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2147483647 |
| 19:42.46 | fridg | i already said that cnc |
| 19:42.47 | Xinhuan | see? 214k gold |
| 19:42.49 | Xinhuan | makes complete sense |
| 19:42.53 | nevcairiel | hehehe |
| 19:44.19 | dodga | Does anybody else have any of these issues: every time I zone my title is changed to "champion of the naaru" and I have to put it to "none" / when I modify guild ranks it always switches back to guildmaster (e.g. puts "Guild Master" into the rank label) |
| 19:44.19 | cncfanatics | lua can only take that big numbers ? :o |
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| 19:44.19 | Xinhuan | i was totally surprised that blizzard added in checks to prevent longint overflow |
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| 19:44.27 | kenlyric | protip: don't buy things from the back of trucks. http://www.theindychannel.com/news/14658998/detail.html |
| 19:45.00 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, couldn't they just use stuff with bigger capacity tbh ? |
| 19:45.01 | Xinhuan | dodga: known issue - fixed in 2.3.2 |
| 19:45.07 | dodga | Xinhuan: Both of them? |
| 19:45.14 | Xinhuan | uh that is for the zoning title one |
| 19:45.19 | dodga | I see |
| 19:45.22 | Xinhuan | the guildmaster one is related to LibRoster |
| 19:45.26 | dodga | Well, better than nothing |
| 19:45.35 | |Stan| | Xinhuan: nah |
| 19:45.41 | |Stan| | happens with no addons installed, too |
| 19:45.47 | Xinhuan | LibRoster calls GuildRoster() every 15 seconds to update the guild list (for cartographer_guildpositions) |
| 19:45.48 | |Stan| | with guild bank permissions |
| 19:45.57 | Xinhuan | its not a bank permission issue stan |
| 19:46.07 | Xinhuan | he's referring to the "switch back to guildmaster" issue |
| 19:46.10 | dodga | Xinhuan: Maybe somebody could disable that as long as the guild control panel is shown |
| 19:46.12 | |Stan| | hm well |
| 19:46.17 | dodga | because.. it sucks :> |
| 19:46.31 | |Stan| | our guildmaster told me he had that problem |
| 19:46.31 | fridg | lol |
| 19:46.50 | Xinhuan | ckknight made a "fix" for it, but it didn't work |
| 19:46.50 | |Stan| | and he uses no addons |
| 19:46.51 | Xinhuan | as far as i know, having no addons fixes the problem - or disable LibRoster |
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| 19:47.18 | Xinhuan | (p.s. i verified this myself) |
| 19:47.19 | dodga | Xinhuan: Can I do that on the fly while carto guildpositions ois running? :> |
| 19:47.22 | Xinhuan | no |
| 19:47.32 | Xinhuan | you have to logout, disable carto_gp and libroster |
| 19:47.36 | dodga | i see |
| 19:47.41 | Xinhuan | and make sure no other addon uses libroster too |
| 19:47.48 | dodga | Yeah I wonder how I would do that :o |
| 19:47.54 | Xinhuan | can't really do it easily |
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| 19:48.06 | fridg | move the folder for libroster |
| 19:48.20 | Xinhuan | you can however unregister GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE for the guild control pane |
| 19:48.23 | Xinhuan | and it'll work |
| 19:48.35 | Xinhuan | ckk's fix is to nil out the OnEvent handler for it |
| 19:48.49 | Xinhuan | (which didn't seem to work) |
| 19:49.46 | Xinhuan | anyway, back to the prospect ore thing - i believe prospecting 132k ore is a big enough sample size for accurate statistics? :) |
| 19:50.04 | Pkekyo| | rofl Xinhuan |
| 19:50.09 | Pkekyo| | stating the obvious ftw |
| 19:50.34 | fridg | too small |
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| 19:50.49 | Xinhuan | i would try to prospect more |
| 19:50.54 | Xinhuan | but it appears there aren't enough miners |
| 19:50.57 | kergoth | is there a light addon showing prospect percentages in ore tooltips? enchantrix is a tad more than i need |
| 19:51.27 | Xinhuan | you mean like |
| 19:51.30 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/prospectinfo.jpg |
| 19:51.30 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 19:51.32 | dylanm | I think Tekkub has something |
| 19:51.34 | dodga | I didn't mean "how do I disable libroster" but more like "how do I find out what addon really uses libroster" :> |
| 19:51.37 | dodga | but anyway |
| 19:51.47 | Xinhuan | that addon is ProspectInfo - available on Incgamers :D |
| 19:51.58 | kergoth | ah :) |
| 19:51.58 | fridg | dodga, disable it, and you'll get boot errors for ones that need it |
| 19:52.00 | kergoth | right then |
| 19:52.02 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: that's a lot of ore |
| 19:52.05 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Incgamers... wooo |
| 19:52.11 | dodga | fridg: that's pretty brute force :> |
| 19:52.12 | Xinhuan | (not my addon) |
| 19:52.16 | dodga | but I guess it'll do |
| 19:52.19 | fridg | or grep your addons folder for libroster |
| 19:52.20 | Xinhuan | i found it there |
| 19:52.27 | fridg | or all your tocs anyways |
| 19:52.34 | kergoth | tek has panda, which is nice, it shows the de percentages and shows de value using auc or aucadv, and adds itself to btmscan for de.. but its kinda weak on the prospecting info |
| 19:52.36 | Xinhuan | and hey even though incgamers has a bad rep, it doesn't stop me from using a useful addon |
| 19:52.44 | cncfanatics | meh, why is there no quest to bring in netherweave for rep ? only runecloth |
| 19:52.54 | Xinhuan | ProspectInfo works by checking for SPELLCAST event |
| 19:53.07 | Xinhuan | it listens for spell cast start - and checks that the spell is "prospecting" |
| 19:53.23 | Xinhuan | on completion, it listens for the loot event, and checks the lootbox |
| 19:53.27 | Xinhuan | and updates |
| 19:53.37 | Xinhuan | pretty simple? |
| 19:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i hate you for having so much money |
| 19:54.47 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.12 | Xinhuan | it only listens for the loot event after the spellcast start that is of the spell "prospecting" |
| 19:55.15 | Xinhuan | so it wont' double record |
| 19:55.26 | fridg | have they posted the 2.4 combat log chanes yet? |
| 19:55.28 | Xuerian | What I'm saying is having those two events would make that (And stuff xloot does) easier |
| 19:55.36 | Xuerian | er |
| 19:55.37 | Xuerian | arguments |
| 19:55.41 | fridg | figure i should get a head start since they're redoing the whole shit |
| 19:55.42 | Xinhuan | on spellcast start, it checks the item under the cursor to see what type of ore it is |
| 19:55.58 | Xinhuan | pretty simple and effective really |
| 19:56.12 | Xuerian | I'm not saying it's not already simple |
| 19:56.17 | Xuerian | I'm saying it could be simpler. |
| 19:56.18 | Xuerian | :) |
| 19:56.37 | kergoth | Xinhuan: did you ever find a way to figure out when something is looted whether the GetItemCount() includes the new items or not? it seems random, timing dependent |
| 19:56.49 | Xuerian | kergoth: It does seem random |
| 19:56.56 | Xinhuan | i think its random |
| 19:57.04 | Xinhuan | if i were you, i'll delay the actual update by 1 frame |
| 19:57.09 | Xinhuan | (use onupdate scripts) |
| 19:57.16 | kergoth | no biggie, just a minor annoyance, was curious if anyone had dealt with it |
| 19:57.16 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 19:57.31 | Xuerian | flexbar needs a gui. |
| 19:57.35 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, agree |
| 19:57.36 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: how do you deal with prospect not autolooting? |
| 19:57.42 | NeoTron | probably one of the most annoyhing things ever |
| 19:57.46 | kergoth | NeoTron: there are addons that fix it |
| 19:57.50 | kergoth | a numbero f them |
| 19:57.50 | Xinhuan | i manually CLICK each item in dumb loot box |
| 19:57.52 | NeoTron | although since I made a prospect macro, it's less painful |
| 19:57.55 | NeoTron | kergoth: there are? |
| 19:58.01 | NeoTron | didn't think you could mess with looting |
| 19:58.04 | kergoth | panda includes it, and there are at least 1 or 2 seperate ones on wowi |
| 19:58.08 | Xinhuan | alternatively, i click the X button in the loot box which causes it to autoloot everything |
| 19:58.10 | NeoTron | zomg |
| 19:58.17 | NeoTron | yeah x-button is the method i've used |
| 19:58.17 | kergoth | and gfw's enchant/prospect info addon fixes it too iirc |
| 19:58.24 | Xinhuan | since trying to close the loot window will autoloot it for prospecting |
| 19:58.30 | Xinhuan | unlike looting a corpse |
| 19:58.37 | NeoTron | same for enchanting |
| 19:58.39 | kergoth | weird |
| 19:58.44 | NeoTron | it's because ppl closed it and itmes were lost |
| 19:58.48 | Xinhuan | i'm an enchanter too, so i know the issues ;p |
| 19:58.51 | NeoTron | you can't get the ore back so if you don't loot it fails |
| 19:59.14 | Xinhuan | remember when i found the ore dupe bug last month? |
| 19:59.52 | cncfanatics | what cld u do ? :o |
| 19:59.55 | Xinhuan | duplicated 50 stacks of ore easily without fail |
| 20:00.17 | Xinhuan | mailed in the method + video, dupe got fixed within 24 hours |
| 20:00.17 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 20:00.24 | cncfanatics | :o, u mailed it to blizz ? nice |
| 20:00.33 | cncfanatics | what did they reply btw ? |
| 20:00.38 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 20:00.38 | fridg | you get free monthly bjs from blizz for that? |
| 20:00.43 | Xinhuan | nope :( |
| 20:00.50 | kenlyric | 72 hour ban |
| 20:00.58 | fridg | did they ban you or take any of your shit? |
| 20:01.01 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 20:01.05 | kergoth | NeoTron: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7514-FastDisenchant.html is one of them |
| 20:01.47 | NeoTron | My life is now alittle bit better |
| 20:01.57 | NeoTron | with the macro prospecting is... suparezy |
| 20:02.19 | kergoth | what macro? |
| 20:04.31 | NeoTron | #showtooltip \n /cast Prospecting \n /use Adamantite Ore \n /use Fel Iron Ore |
| 20:04.36 | NeoTron | \n ofc being newlines |
| 20:04.41 | NeoTron | that will do a one-click prospect |
| 20:04.42 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:05.48 | Xinhuan | hmmm cool |
| 20:05.56 | Xinhuan | gonna use that macro too |
| 20:06.15 | NeoTron | wait a second |
| 20:06.21 | NeoTron | oh wait, nm |
| 20:06.29 | NeoTron | yeah it's nice |
| 20:06.38 | NeoTron | with this fast loot addon, prospecting is now a one button affair |
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| 20:07.20 | kergoth | so, is it worth farming adamantite ore, or better off farming primals and buying the ore? |
| 20:07.29 | Xinhuan | either |
| 20:07.31 | Xinhuan | doesn't matter |
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| 20:07.39 | fridg | be an eng and suck air |
| 20:07.44 | fridg | its the shit |
| 20:07.55 | kergoth | i'm lazy, i think i'll go for the latter. easier to find mobs to kill than ore nodes, especially with no epic flyer yet :P |
| 20:07.58 | fridg | with and epic you can farm primal airs like it aint no thing in nagrand |
| 20:08.48 | Mudkipz | as the goblins say |
| 20:08.52 | Mudkipz | Time is money friend |
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| 20:10.05 | kenlyric | it also depends on how fast you kill things. |
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| 20:11.43 | omega | hms, PerformanceFu reports a huge memory leak in bartender3 |
| 20:11.44 | RaydenUni | daily bg sucks |
| 20:11.46 | RaydenUni | horde lost AB just now |
| 20:11.48 | RaydenUni | horribly |
| 20:12.01 | omega | it grew to 35mb over about 20minutes of gaming |
| 20:12.04 | bigzero | ~seen ckknight |
| 20:12.06 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 1d 11h 2m 50s ago, saying: 'goddamn unions'. |
| 20:12.47 | Xinhuan | disable various BT3 modules and see where the leak is? |
| 20:15.11 | Pkekyo| | fucksake...hadn't imagined it should be so bloody hard to get a 2min group invite on a thursday night |
| 20:15.22 | Xinhuan | ok kergoth |
| 20:15.26 | Xinhuan | using that prospect macro works |
| 20:15.32 | Xinhuan | but breaks ProspectInfo ~_~ |
| 20:15.46 | Xinhuan | NeoTron i mean |
| 20:15.59 | Mudkipz | prospectinfo? |
| 20:15.59 | Xinhuan | since that addon checks for the item under the cursor |
| 20:16.03 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: weird |
| 20:16.35 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:16.37 | NeoTron | ah I see |
| 20:17.32 | Xinhuan | wonder if i can find a way around that hmm |
| 20:17.48 | Xinhuan | you can't check for what item the spell is casting on, can you? |
| 20:17.58 | Xinhuan | when you use that macro somehow |
| 20:18.06 | nevcairiel | omega: lies |
| 20:18.37 | nevcairiel | i raid with bt3 every day and never seen any increase anywhere, i bet you run soem additional stuff :) |
| 20:18.46 | Mudkipz | bt3 is fne |
| 20:18.48 | Mudkipz | fine* |
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| 20:19.55 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: not sure |
| 20:20.01 | Xinhuan | deleted prospect macro :( |
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| 20:20.23 | Cryect | omega: you are using embedded libraries I bet |
| 20:20.47 | Cryect | sounds like the Ace2 library is being loaded with BT3 hence the memory increase |
| 20:21.25 | Xinhuan | story fits too, B is a early alphabet addon |
| 20:21.34 | Cryect | yep |
| 20:21.42 | nevcairiel | i wonder which addon causes Ace2 to grow like that |
| 20:21.51 | Cryect | well Fubar supposedly was doing it at one time |
| 20:21.56 | Cryect | not sure if that was fixed or not |
| 20:22.02 | nevcairiel | fubar is no longer ace |
| 20:22.09 | nevcairiel | unless he uses our hax0red version |
| 20:22.20 | Xinhuan | pretty sure if fubar didn't get fixed, 100000 users would have told us about it by now |
| 20:22.28 | nevcairiel | true |
| 20:22.40 | Cryect | shrug most users don't notice memory leaks really :-p |
| 20:22.47 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 20:22.53 | Xinhuan | fubar users often use performancefu :D |
| 20:22.55 | Xinhuan | its like a staple |
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| 20:23.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:23.37 | kenlyric | I've always figured Acecomm causes the growth. |
| 20:23.46 | cncfanatics | whats the Config.wtf setting for cpu profiling ? |
| 20:23.56 | Cryect | Well its really easy to cause Ace2 to grow if you use a few of the functions incorrectly |
| 20:23.59 | leech2k_ | I always use Performancefu |
| 20:24.00 | kenlyric | but there's no rational reason for it. just seems a decent culprit :) |
| 20:24.14 | Cryect | And I'm pretty sure its not AceComm :-p |
| 20:24.29 | Toadkiller | well there is something that is using 10s of megabytes when I enter a BG. I have to quit wow & restart just to get in... it freezes though so I cant tell who is doing it. |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | I've been monitoring my addon-comm traffic lately .. |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | man |
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| 20:24.37 | Osstia | I have used TitanPanel for a long while |
| 20:24.38 | cncfanatics | ~seen balstor |
| 20:24.40 | purl | balstor <n=chatzill@209.205.152.85> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 18m 43s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics you here?'. |
| 20:24.42 | Xinhuan | well... |
| 20:24.44 | nevcairiel | Recount even beats the crappy DoTimer net code |
| 20:24.45 | Osstia | How does FuBar compare? |
| 20:24.54 | Mudkipz | FuBar is superior |
| 20:25.02 | cncfanatics | everything is superior to titan :/ |
| 20:25.06 | Xinhuan | why can't you see which addon is leaking |
| 20:25.08 | cncfanatics | that coding is just, ewwww |
| 20:25.19 | Gngsk | titan is ... titanic in stature compared to FuBar |
| 20:25.21 | Toadkiller | screen freezes & then I get a dc... |
| 20:25.40 | Xinhuan | you'll have to debug which addon it is then |
| 20:25.43 | Toadkiller | however performancefu does show mem usage so I know something is spewung |
| 20:25.55 | nevcairiel | we've 3 people in the raid using recount |
| 20:26.00 | Toadkiller | Yeah, just havent done the disable dance yet |
| 20:26.07 | nevcairiel | you can detect them by number of bytes on addon channel |
| 20:26.08 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 20:26.13 | Osstia | What about TipBuddy. I use it, although it is very out of date. Anyone have a favorite Ace addon for tooltips? |
| 20:26.14 | Xion` | Toadkiller could it be babble zone or w/e it's called? |
| 20:26.16 | Xinhuan | at least you can probably ignore non-ace2 addons |
| 20:26.20 | Xion` | used to eat loads for me in AV |
| 20:26.22 | Toadkiller | Cowtip |
| 20:26.23 | Mudkipz | I got rid of tip buddy |
| 20:26.37 | cncfanatics | time to logout |
| 20:26.38 | cncfanatics | nn peeps |
| 20:26.45 | Birdemani | prat is still tossing taints for me :/ |
| 20:26.48 | Toadkiller | Mmm it was in AV last night. |
| 20:27.00 | Toadkiller | nite |
| 20:27.30 | Xinhuan | i don't know what is causing me taint |
| 20:27.41 | Xinhuan | but i know for sure the taint error happens in HYJAL but not in AV |
| 20:27.48 | Toadkiller | does the blizz taint log stuff still work? |
| 20:27.50 | Xinhuan | and its related to WorldStateFrame |
| 20:28.17 | Xinhuan | any clues? |
| 20:28.31 | Birdemani | yes toad |
| 20:29.01 | Xinhuan | what do you mean "still work"? |
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| 20:30.19 | kergoth | hey is there an addon to relocate that frame taht shows the flag carrier in wsg and the capture stuff in world pvp? |
| 20:30.25 | Toadkiller | well ok since it works you should be able to enable it & trace the taint? |
| 20:31.03 | Toadkiller | kergoth: cant u just drag it directly to where you want it? |
| 20:31.26 | kergoth | never have been able to before |
| 20:31.27 | kergoth | is that nwe? |
| 20:31.37 | Guardix | it jumps back to its original loc :)? |
| 20:31.37 | Toadkiller | no i thought you always could |
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| 20:33.29 | Xinhuan | [11/30 04:32:27] <Toadkiller> well ok since it works you should be able to enable it & trace the taint? |
| 20:33.30 | Xinhuan | no |
| 20:33.40 | Xinhuan | the log only logs taints to execution path |
| 20:33.48 | Xinhuan | and taints to global variables |
| 20:34.00 | Xinhuan | if you tainted a frame function, say by hooking |
| 20:34.04 | Xinhuan | you wouldn't get logged at all |
| 20:34.06 | Xinhuan | it* |
| 20:34.25 | Xinhuan | for example, hooking ChatFrame1:AddMessage() will not generate a taint log entry |
| 20:34.45 | nevcairiel | but the execution path would, only that it lacks functionality to show the line that caused the taint of the execution path |
| 20:34.54 | Xinhuan | so while it works, its partial |
| 20:35.07 | Xinhuan | so if the default UI runs some code that then runs |
| 20:35.18 | Xinhuan | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() |
| 20:35.20 | nevcairiel | did someone suggest that to slouken? "Show line where execution path taint comes from" ? |
| 20:35.26 | Xinhuan | execution will get tainted |
| 20:35.34 | Xinhuan | by the hooked function |
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| 20:35.42 | Xinhuan | but it won't tell you WHERE OR HOW that hook function got tainted |
| 20:35.43 | sedatedChipmunk | Lukian: i've been considering that actually; i'm running out of modifier keys though >8P |
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| 20:35.57 | Xinhuan | its impossible to trace/track basically |
| 20:36.02 | Xinhuan | or nearly impossible |
| 20:36.18 | nevcairiel | like i said, someone on US get that in the suggestion thread :P |
| 20:38.18 | Xinhuan | i already posted a week ago |
| 20:38.40 | Xinhuan | i mean, to add non-global taints |
| 20:38.42 | Xinhuan | to the log |
| 20:38.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.12 | Osstia | What about UnitFrames. I have used CT and XPerl, any recommendations on an Ace unitframe? |
| 20:39.23 | Chompers | Pitbull |
| 20:39.34 | Chompers | AGUF |
| 20:41.17 | Pkekyo| | holy crap, the "Don't Feed Phil" episode of Viva La Bam is hilarious |
| 20:41.43 | |Stan| | Pkekyo|: yup :p |
| 20:41.58 | Pkekyo| | I was going to eat dinner now, but I can't stop laughing |
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| 20:42.56 | Pkekyo| | dinner will have to wait...this is golden! |
| 20:43.09 | Xuerian | Link? >.> |
| 20:43.35 | Pkekyo| | link for the episode? |
| 20:44.47 | Pkekyo| | don't have one |
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| 20:49.29 | Pkekyo| | holy shit, Don Vito chugged a bottle of tabasco |
| 20:49.41 | Antiarc | Tabasco isn't that bad |
| 20:49.52 | Pkekyo| | it's bad enough imo |
| 20:49.52 | Antiarc | It's basically just vinegar and jalepeno juice |
| 20:50.36 | |Stan| | I love tabasco |
| 20:51.00 | Pkekyo| | I hate it |
| 20:51.09 | Antiarc | Tabasco is awesome. |
| 20:52.09 | Cyrez | It's more about the signature flavor than the heat. |
| 20:52.34 | |Stan| | I put tabasco on nearly everything I eat :p |
| 20:53.49 | Industrial | its AESOEM |
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| 20:54.33 | Osstia | Cholula |
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| 21:02.36 | Toadkiller | tabasco is fairly mild. cant really get hot chicken wings by only using it |
| 21:03.22 | Toadkiller | but it is tasty ;-p |
| 21:03.57 | |Stan| | oh Toadkiller |
| 21:04.00 | |Stan| | welcome back :) |
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| 21:04.41 | Toadkiller | yeah been a while |
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| 21:10.05 | Obelixprim1 | so... anyone type /split recently in wow |
| 21:10.09 | Xuerian | Is there anything special I need to do to get omnibus to actually execute something? >_> |
| 21:10.17 | Pkekyo| | zomg hai Toadkiller |
| 21:10.24 | Pkekyo| | I've been looking for you for like...ages! |
| 21:13.35 | CIA-8 | 03ammo * r56279 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: nil out dataInfo.cat so it gets created again. |
| 21:16.58 | omega | Cryect: My pitbull (for some reason) have always had the Ace2 libs before |
| 21:17.04 | omega | and its still the 8mb it used to be |
| 21:17.12 | omega | BT3 was never on the list before |
| 21:17.22 | omega | since 2.3, its been growing perpostrus |
| 21:19.20 | Cryect | Huh you sure Pitbull is loading the Ace2 libraries and not BT3? |
| 21:19.24 | Cryect | Just a strange loading order |
| 21:23.31 | kadrahil | Cryect: ltns |
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| 21:24.27 | dylanm | huh |
| 21:24.33 | Cryect | heh hiya, I've been in the channel the past week or so |
| 21:25.12 | dylanm | Ohh |
| 21:26.03 | Chompers | Antiarc? |
| 21:26.07 | Antiarc | Heya |
| 21:26.11 | Chompers | talon of azhara |
| 21:26.32 | Antiarc | Yup? |
| 21:26.34 | Chompers | the sword off morro, do your guilds dps warriors rate it quite highly? |
| 21:26.40 | Antiarc | Not really |
| 21:26.45 | Antiarc | Our DPS warrior is 33/28 2H |
| 21:26.58 | Chompers | don't have the raw ap for that yet :< |
| 21:27.56 | Chompers | ah balls, it didn't drop again, never mind |
| 21:27.59 | kadrahil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168328825&sid=1 |
| 21:28.01 | kadrahil | comment #13 |
| 21:28.13 | kadrahil | " and they are STILL cleaning up after the whole wowace mess." <-- huh? |
| 21:28.29 | dylanm | Mirroring all the files |
| 21:28.30 | |Stan| | they mirrored all wowace addons |
| 21:28.32 | dylanm | From the svn |
| 21:28.39 | dylanm | Well, files.wowace |
| 21:28.43 | kadrahil | worldofwar did? |
| 21:28.45 | Kalroth | anyone seen this error before: http://acdev.org/weird_acecomm_error.jpg - old addon or? |
| 21:28.55 | Kalroth | in the raid, I mean - mine is updated |
| 21:29.04 | Antiarc | I'll bet that's vhaarr's bug :P |
| 21:29.08 | Antiarc | He was messing with AceComm last night |
| 21:29.17 | kadrahil | dylanm: you mean worldofwar mirrored all of it? |
| 21:29.17 | Kalroth | Nope, I've had it for a while, a week or so |
| 21:29.59 | Antiarc | kadrahil: Yes |
| 21:30.02 | Antiarc | Without permission |
| 21:30.08 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 21:30.08 | Antiarc | And then they lied about it when confronted |
| 21:30.22 | Antiarc | And said they only linked to the files...which was easily demonstrated to be false. |
| 21:30.37 | Antiarc | Not their best PR day. |
| 21:30.43 | kadrahil | nope |
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| 21:31.13 | omega | Cryect: well, if I disable Pitbull, some other addon goes to about the same memorysize |
| 21:31.19 | omega | and disable that moves it again etd |
| 21:32.00 | Ozguli | omega preserved addon memory |
| 21:32.05 | Ozguli | reserved |
| 21:32.10 | Ozguli | whatever... |
| 21:35.09 | rst | does anyone know which addon uses "3?T" addon channel prefix? (? is some character wow can't print I guess) |
| 21:36.28 | Pkekyo| | Viva La Bam is a great show....a wonder noone shot bam yet though |
| 21:36.47 | nevcairiel | rst: sounds like AceComm |
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| 21:36.57 | nevcairiel | it uses some encoding on the prefix |
| 21:42.47 | Orionshock | tell me this is a joke item... [Comfortable Insoles] |
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| 21:43.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, encoded addonmsg spam makes Prat_AddonMsgs puke :< |
| 21:43.07 | Gnarfoz | lags the hell out of it all :< |
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| 21:43.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: oh no, it makes the treacherous outland hills much more comfortable! |
| 21:44.13 | Gnarfoz | <Xinhuan> of a guy in DnT with 214k gold <-- got a link to that, still? |
| 21:44.22 | Xinhuan | possibly |
| 21:44.28 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 21:45.22 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2200480067&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 21:45.24 | Xinhuan | there |
| 21:45.49 | Xinhuan | that wasn't the screenshot though |
| 21:45.53 | Xinhuan | i'll try and get the dnt one |
| 21:46.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah googled me that one just now, can't find one that shows the error msg, tho |
| 21:46.39 | Fisker- | that's pretty old Xinhuan |
| 21:46.40 | Xinhuan | here's another one |
| 21:46.42 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=557945981&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 21:46.45 | Xinhuan | yes its pretty old |
| 21:47.01 | Fisker- | thought they fixed it though |
| 21:47.20 | Gnarfoz | ah, test server shenanigans ^^ |
| 21:48.03 | Gnarfoz | need screenshot for guild forums xD |
| 21:48.43 | Xinhuan | don't think i can find that screenshot, might need to search logs |
| 21:48.54 | Xinhuan | ~logs |
| 21:48.55 | purl | well, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 21:51.56 | Xinhuan | http://www.dtguilds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3462&d=1194889138 |
| 21:52.17 | _aLF | Hi, I have an addon still based on Ace1, yes 1. I would like to know if this is too soon to start to move to Ace3 ? The goal is not make a release using the current Ace3 version, but to see how it can fit. |
| 21:52.31 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: ... |
| 21:52.33 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: showoff |
| 21:52.49 | Xinhuan | hey Gnarfoz wanted to know |
| 21:53.06 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: <3 thx |
| 21:53.10 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: :O |
| 21:53.20 | Gnarfoz | lol the simpleness of the error msg is typical |
| 21:53.22 | Gnarfoz | "at gold limit" xD |
| 21:53.26 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: how long did it takesyou to amass that amount? |
| 21:53.29 | kadrahil | err |
| 21:53.30 | kadrahil | take you |
| 21:53.35 | Xinhuan | uh that isn't me? |
| 21:53.38 | kadrahil | oh. |
| 21:53.41 | Xinhuan | i'm just linking a screenshot |
| 21:53.46 | kadrahil | gotcha |
| 21:53.56 | rubik | that's a weird limit |
| 21:53.56 | Gnarfoz | although it *is* his outspoken goal to reach that amount, too |
| 21:53.57 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:54.06 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^31 - 1 |
| 21:54.06 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2147483647 |
| 21:54.08 | Xinhuan | not at all. |
| 21:54.13 | Gnarfoz | yup, not weird |
| 21:54.15 | Gnarfoz | just... small |
| 21:54.24 | rubik | ahh |
| 21:54.32 | kadrahil | and he only has 36 bandages on him |
| 21:54.33 | kadrahil | mwahah |
| 21:54.44 | rubik | i think he can afford a few more million |
| 21:54.45 | Xinhuan | i don't keep more than 20 on me at any time |
| 21:54.59 | Xinhuan | don't see why you would need a lot anyway |
| 21:54.59 | kadrahil | i made like 100 the other day |
| 21:55.01 | kadrahil | cause i was out |
| 21:55.13 | Gnarfoz | he's wearing full t6, and is a shaman - I'd wager some of my 200g that he is indeed able to heal himself without the need for bandages ^^ |
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| 21:55.16 | Xinhuan | i just keep a couple of stacks in the mailbox |
| 21:55.19 | CIA-8 | 03simlan * r56280 10ActionCombat/Locale_enUS.lua: ActionCombat: English translation fix |
| 21:56.13 | Gnarfoz | nice ghost nickname xD |
| 21:56.50 | kadrahil | typical orgrimmar combat log too |
| 21:56.53 | kadrahil | Death: [Gamon] |
| 21:57.42 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 22:02.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: well, the player who made that screenshot is a priest, not a shaman, but i guess the same applies. :P |
| 22:02.36 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: uuhhh what |
| 22:02.38 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 22:02.38 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 22:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 22:02.47 | kadrahil | i want to reroll a mage |
| 22:02.50 | Gnarfoz | damn taurens and their bigass shoulders |
| 22:02.54 | kadrahil | i'm tired of playing my hunter ;( |
| 22:03.15 | kadrahil | blood elf mage chick inc |
| 22:03.26 | rubik | mages not as OP as hunters.. you sure you didn't mean warlock? |
| 22:03.38 | kadrahil | i don't want to play a class where all i have to do is faceroll my keyboard |
| 22:04.16 | Keias | You don't need to face roll as a frost mage |
| 22:04.17 | Diao | lol |
| 22:04.23 | Keias | You just hit the 3 buttons needed with your nose |
| 22:04.29 | kadrahil | Heh |
| 22:04.31 | Keias | Nova, Block, Lance |
| 22:04.31 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, its hard to find really good mages |
| 22:04.44 | Keias | receive arena points |
| 22:04.47 | Diao | yeah because all they need to do is hit a couple buttons |
| 22:04.55 | Diao | not much to it |
| 22:05.01 | Diao | for pvp :( |
| 22:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the thing is, i've seen players who are -exceptional- at most other classes roll a mage, and just suck it up big time |
| 22:05.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it's like, no matter how good you are, when you roll a mage, you suck. :) |
| 22:05.41 | kadrahil | that sounds like everyone that wanted to reroll a lock when they were OP |
| 22:06.11 | Diao | most people aren't very good at other classes aside from their main |
| 22:06.17 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 22:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i don't find that too true. |
| 22:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | in most cases, good players are good at just about everything. |
| 22:06.46 | Diao | eh |
| 22:07.16 | NightHawkTheSane | it's the mediocre players who are good enough at their main to get by, but aren't so hot at everything else |
| 22:07.52 | Diao | i said most people |
| 22:07.59 | Diao | most wow players are quite bad |
| 22:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | well, fair enough |
| 22:08.22 | Diao | :P |
| 22:08.26 | kadrahil | lol |
| 22:08.37 | Diao | at least in pvp, pve is a different story since it's mostly execution |
| 22:08.51 | Diao | but in pvp i rarely meet people where i go "wow that person was amazing" |
| 22:09.00 | Diao | most of the time it's like "wow this person is terrible" :( |
| 22:09.00 | kadrahil | high end pve at least requires you to be good at your class though |
| 22:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess if we're talking about people en mass, than I'm justified in saying i'm surprised most players don't drown in their own saliva |
| 22:09.19 | kadrahil | as does high end pvp (top arena?) |
| 22:09.26 | Diao | well yeah |
| 22:09.30 | Diao | but a lot of it is coordination as well |
| 22:09.34 | Diao | moreso than individual player skill |
| 22:09.45 | Diao | i mean |
| 22:09.49 | Diao | playing a warrior |
| 22:09.50 | NightHawkTheSane | at the high end, both require skill, just slightly different kinds, really |
| 22:09.53 | Diao | back when i first hit 70 |
| 22:09.57 | kadrahil | yeah, i consider myself a darn good hunter, i've got a good sense of situational awareness |
| 22:09.57 | Diao | and i was wearing instance blues/greens |
| 22:10.06 | Diao | i could 1v1 most people in s1 arena gear |
| 22:10.10 | Diao | and beat them |
| 22:10.10 | kadrahil | heh |
| 22:10.14 | Diao | consistently |
| 22:10.20 | vhaarr | Antiarc: that's not my bug |
| 22:10.26 | Diao | and it's not because i'm exceptionally skilled |
| 22:10.36 | Diao | at least i don't think i am |
| 22:10.40 | Keias | Cause they're exceptoinally bad |
| 22:10.44 | Diao | it's just that my opponent was terrible :P |
| 22:10.47 | Keias | Yeah lol |
| 22:10.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: well, relative to them, you are. :P |
| 22:10.50 | Keias | I've ran into that a lot too |
| 22:10.51 | NightHawkTheSane | remember, everything is relative. |
| 22:10.53 | Diao | lol |
| 22:10.57 | kadrahil | i'm not trying to flex my epeen or anything, i know i'm not the best hunter out there |
| 22:11.04 | Keias | NightHawkTheSane, that's just something we say to make ourselves feel better! |
| 22:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | see, I'm one of those "terrible" playerse, who could be decked out in s3 gear, and still lose to someone in greens 5 levels below me |
| 22:11.27 | kadrahil | lol |
| 22:11.36 | Diao | lol |
| 22:11.44 | Diao | well depends on the class of course ;) |
| 22:11.56 | kadrahil | that kind of happened to me once |
| 22:11.58 | NightHawkTheSane | well yes, but i mean in the general sense. I don't generally pvp :) |
| 22:12.00 | Keias | A terrible geared frost mage can own my face |
| 22:12.03 | Diao | yep |
| 22:12.05 | Keias | Unless they're bad |
| 22:12.06 | Keias | lol |
| 22:12.09 | Diao | and a good hunter can beat me too :( |
| 22:12.11 | Xinhuan | ERROR |
| 22:12.11 | Xinhuan | The requested URL could not be retrieved |
| 22:12.13 | NightHawkTheSane | But I'm good at pve, and can handle pretty much any class/role there |
| 22:12.15 | Diao | even if they're in bad gear |
| 22:12.20 | Xinhuan | While trying to retrieve the URL: http://wowui.incgamers.com/? |
| 22:12.20 | kadrahil | i was on the EP in all my epics and i got completely facerolled by a SL/SL warlock in blues and greens with 600 spell damage |
| 22:12.20 | Xinhuan | The following error was encountered: |
| 22:12.20 | Xinhuan | * Unable to forward this request at this time. |
| 22:12.26 | kadrahil | and camped 5 times |
| 22:12.32 | Kemayo | Some classes are much more gear-reliant than others. |
| 22:12.33 | Xinhuan | lol dead site |
| 22:12.52 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: LOL OWNED |
| 22:13.19 | Kemayo | Like, an affliction warlock... spell damage is *nice*, sure, but you can get by without it. |
| 22:13.42 | Diao | o-o |
| 22:13.50 | Diao | also |
| 22:13.52 | Diao | screw bear druids :( |
| 22:13.56 | Keias | lol |
| 22:13.58 | Diao | i can't hit them and when i do it's like 200 damage |
| 22:14.01 | Diao | and they're mangling me for 1k |
| 22:14.04 | Keias | But most are bad as usual |
| 22:14.11 | Keias | Except that one in EOTS the other night |
| 22:14.11 | Diao | and everytime they crit it's like +600 hp to them |
| 22:14.14 | Keias | She was a fucking beast |
| 22:14.18 | Diao | i just got wrecked by one in ab |
| 22:14.23 | Diao | like |
| 22:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Heh. that reminds me, I was doing the skyguard escort quest today |
| 22:14.25 | Diao | 80% dodge rate |
| 22:14.28 | kadrahil | druids are pretty hard to beat |
| 22:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | And while the prisoner was walking along, i was on my mount doing some bombing as well.. this warrior comes down and starts attacking me |
| 22:14.42 | kadrahil | i can usually only kill them if they're busy killing someone else in bear form and i blow all of my trinkets and CD's on them |
| 22:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | So I just fly up a few feet, and wait for the prisoner to finish whatever he's going to do, but the warrior sits there shooting me with his gun. |
| 22:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Now, with earth shield on, he's doing no damage, and even without it, i could go afk and make myself a three course meal before he kills me that way. I had to wonder why he was even bothering. |
| 22:16.20 | Xuerian | Diao: What battlegroup/druid name? |
| 22:16.45 | Diao | our bg |
| 22:16.45 | Diao | uh |
| 22:16.51 | Keias | BG9 |
| 22:16.51 | Keias | lol |
| 22:16.59 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 22:17.06 | Diao | mortir |
| 22:17.09 | Diao | silver hand |
| 22:17.16 | Xuerian | lol |
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| 22:17.34 | Diao | whoops |
| 22:17.34 | Xuerian | I was wondering, I just heard the other side of your story on the phone. Female druid in bear form playing with clothies |
| 22:17.42 | Diao | read the wrong name |
| 22:17.43 | Xuerian | in ab |
| 22:17.45 | Diao | thought you were Xinhuan :P |
| 22:17.50 | Xuerian | :p |
| 22:18.05 | Diao | and i'm a s3/s2 geared warrior ;) |
| 22:18.06 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 22:18.07 | Diao | not a clothy |
| 22:18.36 | Diao | wasn't paying attention, tabbing back and forth between wow(in ab atm) and irc |
| 22:18.44 | Diao | so i read xuerian as xinhuan since it's the same number of letters |
| 22:18.49 | Diao | and i don't usually see xuerian talk :P |
| 22:19.19 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 22:19.20 | Xuerian | :p |
| 22:19.24 | Xuerian | I was here first :( |
| 22:19.29 | Diao | haha |
| 22:21.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I think you two should fight to the death, loser has to change their name |
| 22:22.09 | Xuerian | Too lazy. |
| 22:22.21 | Keias | I feel your pain |
| 22:22.28 | Keias | I used to be on a realm with a guy named Kelas |
| 22:22.31 | Keias | It was confusing :( |
| 22:22.58 | Keias | Argh |
| 22:23.02 | Keias | I dread Skinner updates |
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| 22:24.25 | kadrahil | hmm skinner |
| 22:24.46 | kadrahil | i'm trying to decide if i want to install that and use the whole black bottom bar thing for my ui |
| 22:24.58 | Chompers | no dont |
| 22:25.02 | kadrahil | ok |
| 22:25.06 | kadrahil | thanks |
| 22:25.10 | Chompers | just use eepanels2 and add black boxes for your frames |
| 22:25.25 | kadrahil | or |
| 22:25.28 | Chompers | it'll take up less space |
| 22:25.34 | Xinhuan | this name is actually my real name |
| 22:25.35 | kadrahil | i could just make my chat frames darker and transparent |
| 22:25.43 | Xinhuan | so i'm not changing it since its not a nick :D |
| 22:26.10 | Chompers | what about your bar frames |
| 22:27.11 | Keias | I wish my real name was unique enough to use it online :( |
| 22:27.49 | Kemayo | I managed to register the .org of my real name *despite* it be also being the name of a famous director. :D |
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| 22:28.10 | kadrahil | i don't have any bar frames right now |
| 22:28.15 | kadrahil | i guess that's where eepanels steps in |
| 22:28.29 | evl | Does Simple Combat Log do much in terms of performance? |
| 22:28.42 | Chompers | it's pretty sweet |
| 22:28.43 | kadrahil | yes, it reduces you to 5 fps and eats 80mb of ram |
| 22:29.22 | kadrahil | Chompers: wtb screenshot pst |
| 22:29.36 | Kemayo | It used to have a memory leak from Parser, but I that's probably gone now. |
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| 22:30.40 | Chompers | mid raid |
| 22:30.45 | Chompers | ill do it later, or something |
| 22:32.23 | kadrahil | oh |
| 22:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I actually have my real first name registered on sorcery.net, or did at one point.. it may have faded |
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| 22:44.40 | Tinyboom | hmm, what's better; icy veins or slow? :p |
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| 22:50.35 | Zhinjio | I actually kind of like this theme/graphics... http://skg.trippy.org/ |
| 22:50.42 | Zhinjio | sort of halloweeney and dark. |
| 22:59.07 | kergoth | NeoTron: wow, that prospect macro + autoloot fix = love |
| 22:59.40 | Xinhuan | whats the autoloot fix? |
| 23:00.19 | Xinhuan | i still want ProspectInfo to track % though, so :( |
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| 23:04.30 | Pkekyo| | why don't you just get an autoloot addon? :p |
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| 23:14.07 | Gnarfoz | ~xyzzy |
| 23:14.08 | purl | nothing happens |
| 23:14.19 | harl|eerie | why does "/cast [stealth] Prowl" not work to cancel prowl? |
| 23:14.22 | Gnarfoz | correct answer ^^ |
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| 23:16.32 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
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| 23:23.21 | kergoth | Xinhuan: i meant the fixdisenchant addon, or panda, or gfw_disenchantpredictor, or any other fix for the de/prospect autoloot issues |
| 23:23.29 | kergoth | one click prospecting ftw |
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| 23:23.52 | Osstia | has anyone noticed thew screenshot on the Ace Ag Unitframes Page? |
| 23:25.06 | Pkekyo| | Enchantrix works with autoloot atleast |
| 23:25.15 | Xinhuan | Osstia: yes |
| 23:25.22 | Xinhuan | it was mentioned a few days ago |
| 23:25.34 | Osstia | okay |
| 23:25.42 | fishbot2 | lol |
| 23:25.44 | Osstia | just ran across it, and didn't think it was meant to be there |
| 23:25.58 | Xinhuan | i also think nobody cares enough to fix it :D |
| 23:26.02 | harldephin | damn. i hate text based browsing |
| 23:26.03 | Osstia | haha |
| 23:26.45 | harldephin | uhm |
| 23:26.55 | harldephin | what's that picture doing there. it's disgusting. |
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| 23:27.13 | Pkekyo| | wait...what? |
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| 23:29.49 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 23:29.56 | Gnarfoz | wowui is unreachable now |
| 23:30.12 | Gnarfoz | at least no more trojans from there for now then ;D |
| 23:30.19 | Pkekyo| | I'd say we're better off... |
| 23:30.53 | Gnarfoz | and we'll have to bother xin for ProspectInfo ^^ |
| 23:31.36 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 23:31.46 | Xinhuan | it might be available on other addon sites, feel free to check |
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| 23:34.49 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Typo on curse page for Omen: Paragraph 2, "comed" |
| 23:35.00 | Wobwork | any more drama? |
| 23:35.21 | Pkekyo| | Wobwork: if you feel like providing some, I guess we're up for it:p |
| 23:35.39 | Wobwork | all the drama keeps me awake and interested at work |
| 23:35.54 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 23:36.04 | harldephin | trojans? |
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| 23:37.24 | Pkekyo| | old news, harldephin :) |
| 23:37.25 | Cyrez | MAI MEGAHURTZ HAVE BEEN STOLED!!!12 |
| 23:37.42 | CIA-8 | 03gamefaq * r56281 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua): BigWigs: deDE Update |
| 23:37.43 | Pkekyo| | harldephin: oh, you haven't heard? wowui.incgamers has been spamming trojans again |
| 23:37.46 | harldephin | Pkekyo|: i've never used those downloader-things |
| 23:38.01 | harldephin | and i won't |
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| 23:39.15 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r56282 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Proximity: Clamp to screen |
| 23:39.30 | Cyrez | Most of my UI is from various SVN repos. |
| 23:39.50 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, there I forgot |
| 23:40.32 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 23:41.02 | Xinhuan | i only mentioned that one because someone else lost it :) |
| 23:41.37 | Funkeh` | nubs |
| 23:44.04 | kergoth | NeoTron: that prospect macro fails if it happens to pick the wrong stack of adamantite, if you have a stack of < 5 |
| 23:44.06 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 23:45.29 | Lukian | oh dear |
| 23:45.43 | Lukian | AceCast: if you get combat flagged you can't use the right mouse button to move |
| 23:46.00 | harldephin | why's that |
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| 23:46.23 | Lukian | it says "must have a fishing pole equipped" |
| 23:46.42 | Cryect | sounds like you have the right mouse button in combat bound to fishing |
| 23:46.45 | harldephin | got fishingace? |
| 23:46.57 | Lukian | Cryect, acecast. |
| 23:47.41 | Lukian | odd it works now |
| 23:47.43 | Pkekyo| | hms |
| 23:47.44 | Cryect | hehe |
| 23:47.48 | Pkekyo| | humminahumminafluuuuu |
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| 23:50.19 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 23:51.06 | harldephin | Pkekyo|: exactly. |
| 23:51.26 | Diao | argh |
| 23:51.50 | Diao | why is it whenever i choose to defend instead of attack in pvp nobody ever attacks the node i defend, but whenever other people defend they always get attacked :( |
| 23:52.20 | Cryect | they fear your awesomeness |
| 23:52.21 | Xinhuan | isn't that good? |
| 23:52.24 | Xinhuan | free honor for no work |
| 23:52.28 | Pkekyo| | harldephin: huh? |
| 23:52.29 | Xinhuan | allows you to alt-tab chat |
| 23:53.44 | Pkekyo| | I alt-tab chat anyways soeh...alt-tabbing on onyxia ftw :) |
| 23:54.34 | Diao | lol |
| 23:54.39 | Diao | but i would get more honor per hour |
| 23:54.41 | Diao | if i got some hks :( |
| 23:55.47 | Xinhuan | yes like 100 more honor at best, if you got 1.3 honor per min from 1 kill |
| 23:55.55 | Diao | lol |
| 23:57.24 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:57.31 | Pkekyo| | alt-tabbing is golden tbh |
| 23:57.37 | Pkekyo| | sticking to doing one thing sucks |
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| 23:58.46 | harldephin | Pkekyo|: sorry. just a bit of fun. |
| 23:58.59 | harldephin | didn't mean to confuse anyone. |
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