IRC log for #wowace on 20071125

00:02.25Orionshockfor a guild wide craft list - in game - one would only need to pass the craft link + char that can craft it - and the rest can be gotten from the server
00:02.29Orionshock<PROTECTED>
00:02.52CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r55918 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix interaction menu error
00:04.03Xinhuanok if a guild doesn't have a guild tabard purchased, what does GetGuildTabardFileNames() return?
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00:04.28Orionshocknil?
00:04.42Xinhuanthe blizzard guild bank tabard
00:04.54Xinhuanwould set a bunch of textures to nil if thats the case
00:05.26Xinhuannvm
00:05.29Xinhuanif its nil
00:05.31Xinhuanit does this
00:05.33Xinhuanif ( not tabardEmblemUpper ) then
00:05.33XinhuantabardBackgroundUpper = "Textures\\GuildEmblems\\Background_49_TU_U";
00:05.33XinhuantabardBackgroundLower = "Textures\\GuildEmblems\\Background_49_TL_U";
00:05.40Xinhuanso it sets some default background
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00:08.45Pkekyo|g'morning all
00:08.51Orionshocki hate GuildCalender...
00:08.57Orionshockwtb a re make - 100$
00:09.56MentalPowerBTW, we've started the server migration over at norganna, so pastey might go down intermitently
00:10.20Gnarfozthx for letting us know =)
00:10.31NightHawkTheSanezomg, end of the world!
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00:16.03Pkekyo|rofl, some guy crying about moving the imp. intercept talent to the arms tree ruined fury pvp
00:16.31sylvanaar<Fisker-> WAU = Keylogger
00:16.33sylvanaarlol
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00:17.33Pkekyo|WAU? lies! it's WoW!
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00:17.55lhunathDoes Babble-2.2 provide the dependency of an addon to BabbleLib?
00:18.06lhunathif not; what does?
00:18.22lhunathif so; maybe somebody needs to revisit the naming scheme ;x
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00:19.01dylanmBabbleLib?
00:19.04Pkekyo|so why is teh WAU logging my keys?
00:19.15dylanmI don't see anything with that name.
00:19.25dylanmomg kaelten gold hoardz
00:20.27RaydenUniso after one round of WSG i have determined several things about druids
00:20.34RaydenUniit's nice being able to shapeshift and cure poisons
00:20.46RaydenUnihunters still completely own me
00:20.56RaydenUnipretty much my only use in combat is to root people
00:21.08RaydenUnipaladins are still frickin annoying
00:21.13RaydenUniwhat class counters paladins?
00:21.30fridgidshamans?
00:21.34dylanmA lot of them. BoF only gets you so far.
00:21.37fridgidEARTHSHOCK lol
00:21.38RaydenUnishaman is a counter to paladin?
00:21.56charonthe other 8... all at once.
00:22.04ag`Priests are pretty good against paladins
00:22.05fridgidi dunno, depends, it'd have to be somebody with an interupt or ms debuff
00:22.15fridgidanybody with mana burn / drain pretty much raps them
00:22.23ag`Priests can mana burn and dispel their bubble
00:22.43lhunathFor instance; Mangler depends on BabbleLib.
00:22.44ag`a shadow priest can even silence them too
00:22.45dylanmRight. All I do as soon as I see a paladin is mana burn the shit out of it
00:22.49dylanmIt takes forever
00:22.59lhunathWhat addon would provide that dependency of Mangler?
00:23.07RaydenUniso 1 class?
00:23.15dylanmNo.
00:23.30fridgidummm, babblelib would lhunath
00:23.31Ellipsislhunath: any addon depending on the old verison of babble is very *very* out of date
00:23.43NightHawkTheSanethe game isn't so straightforward as every class having direct and obvious counter-classes
00:23.45RaydenUnihttp://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/10/arena01a.gif
00:23.55lhunathellipsis: there's several in http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml
00:23.57RaydenUniNightHawkTheSane but if one class can beat almost every other class 1v1 then that seems like a problem
00:24.13RaydenUnithat chart points at paladins losing to most classes
00:24.16lhunathellipsis: are you saying that BabbleLib is depricated and removed from the repo?
00:24.16dylanmRaydenUni: I don't see compelling evidence that that's the case with paladins.
00:24.19RaydenUnionly really winning against warriors
00:24.20NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUni: and, to quote blizzard, the game is not balanced around 1v1
00:24.24RaydenUnii know all this
00:24.32dylanmWarlocks win 1v1 a lot.
00:24.33RaydenUnibut there should be some semblance of balancing
00:24.36dylanmThat's obvious.
00:24.44charonlhunath: oh you said mangler? someone actually uses that? :D
00:25.00Ellipsislhunath: deprecated, yes
00:25.00RaydenUniand i guess nothing matters for low levels
00:25.09sylvanaarPkekyo| it logs all the porn you watch
00:25.12lhunathcharon: I just randomly grepped the file.  There's FuBar_RestFu too.
00:25.21NightHawkTheSaneto be honest, the game isn't balanced around pvp at all really
00:25.34dylanmNightHawkTheSane: That's why they make changes, primarily.
00:25.35RaydenUnithere was a twink paladin in this wsg, we had 5 guys on him and he still escaped
00:25.38Ellipsiszomg sylvanaar is looking at all our pr0ns
00:25.39lhunathellipsis: so any addon depending on another addon that is not in that xml file basically has a "broken" dependency?
00:25.42dylanmWell that's a twink.
00:25.43RaydenUniof course he did abuse a glitch that let him hop over the wall
00:25.48NightHawkTheSanedylanm: well, i didn't say they didn't try
00:25.55Ellipsisnot exactly lhunath
00:25.58Pkekyo|sylvanaar: could've just asked me to share isntead! :<
00:26.06Ellipsisthe core of your problem is that you're trying to use a very old addon
00:26.32lhunathellipsis: I'm not using it.  I'm making an algorithm to manage dependencies.
00:26.57lhunathI want to know how to deal with addons that are not in the list and not in any other addon's provided tags.
00:27.08lhunaths/addons/dependencies/
00:27.09charoni probably failed hard at writing toc/embeds.xml
00:27.29lhunathhmm?  what's this file for?
00:27.34Ellipsislhunath: just because the toc lists something as an OptDep doesn't mean it's a required dependency
00:27.41Ellipsissee, way back when, Optional meant optional
00:27.48Arrowmaster"BabbleLib" (aka Babble-2.0) doesnt work in WoW 2.x
00:27.56lhunath<PROTECTED>
00:27.57lhunath<PROTECTED>
00:28.02lhunath<PROTECTED>
00:28.06lhunathargh.
00:28.10lhunath<PROTECTED>
00:28.18lhunathnot quite an optdep.
00:28.25Orionshockgoing to kill lhunath
00:28.33Xinhuanif an addon has no externals, does the zipscript still generate 2 copies of identical addons, one with ext and one without?
00:28.45Orionshockoooh
00:28.56Ellipsislhunath: you're getting that from the *embeds*
00:28.58Orionshocki should do that more often :D
00:29.08Ellipsiswhich are inaccurate in restfu's case
00:29.18lhunathellipsis: I'm getting that from latest-noext.xml.
00:29.20Ellipsishttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=55081/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_RestFu/FuBar_RestFu.toc
00:29.39Stanzillavhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/78033 :)
00:29.52CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55919 10FuBar_RestFu/FuBar_RestFu.toc: FuBar_RestFu: fix X-Embeds
00:30.05Arrowmaster=D
00:30.18lhunathellipsis: Are you saying http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml is possibly outdated?
00:30.25Xinhuancan anyone recall offhand whats the wow function to retrieve the current local computer date/time?
00:30.41Ellipsislhunath: no, I'm saying it parses its "dependencies" from the toc's x-embeds
00:30.45ArrowmasterXinhuan: date() or something
00:31.01lhunathoh.  right.
00:31.07lhunathand this is inaccurate.
00:31.08lhunath?
00:31.17Ellipsisif the author doesn't keep his x-embeds updated/correct, yes
00:31.25lhunathdamn.
00:31.27Ellipsisand most, from what I've seen, don't
00:31.34Arrowmasterwait 9 minutes then youll have nothing to argue about
00:32.26lhunathSo can I semi safely assume that any dependency that does not have a title or provided tag anywhere else in the latest-noext.xml can be discarted as probably not required?
00:32.41Ellipsisnot necessarily
00:33.12NightHawkTheSaneits entirely possible for an addon to depend on another addon not hostedon wowace
00:33.24Ellipsisyep, embeds can point to other svn's
00:33.25lhunathright.
00:33.41lhunathsomewhat frustrating.
00:33.56Arrowmastercastcommlib and utf-8 are both used by grid but not on wowace svn afaik
00:34.52CIA-4003charon * r55920 10Mangler/Mangler.toc: Mangler: attempt to fix OptionalDeps and X-Embeds
00:34.58charon*shrug*
00:35.00charonmaybe that works
00:35.09Orionshocklhunath / Ellipsis wait... the xml feed is the wowacesvn only iirc, but the zip compile script dosn't care what svn it's on as it looks like it just does a proper check out with and with out externals
00:35.11charoni'm not sure anyone besides me uses that addon though
00:35.20CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r55921 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: added UNIT_LEVEL event to level text
00:35.29EllipsisOrionshock: lhunath is trying to write an updater that will handle automatic dependency download for disembedded users
00:35.34dylanmag`: Sounds like a solid change :p
00:35.49Ellipsisat least, that's what I'm gathering from the conversation so far (correct me if I'm wrong, lhunath)
00:36.11Ellipsisdetermining what's actually a dependency is the tricky part, and has nothing to do with the zip script
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00:36.41ag`dylanm, it's pretty hefty
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00:36.50Orionshocksorta, the dependancys listed in the xml feed come from the x-embeds: field in the toc file
00:36.55Orionshock...
00:36.56Orionshockiirc
00:37.00sylvanaarthats right
00:37.00Ellipsisyes, we've just gone over that
00:37.18Orionshock... ok one should not watch irc and plat at the same time.
00:37.25Ellipsislhunath: it seems you may be saved
00:37.48Ellipsisunless there's some special magic on Grid that I'm missing, the no-ext zips may include offsite libs
00:37.51NightHawkTheSaneOrionshock: sure you can, you just need to be better at it
00:38.21lhunathhmm.
00:38.27lhunathSounds good.
00:38.42Ellipsisso you can probably use that shortcut
00:38.48Ellipsisit should work in 99% of cases, at least :)
00:38.48Arrowmasteri know the utf8 library is uploaded inside of atleast one addon on the svn
00:39.01lhunathand yes, you are correct in your assumption of what I'm trying to do; along with visualizing dependencies in a graph.
00:39.01EllipsisGrid points to it as an external, but the no-ext zips contain it
00:39.27sylvanaarwell pastamancer maintains the zip script
00:39.30Ellipsissounds like fun lhunath, I don't envy you that task one bit :P
00:40.27sylvanaaranyone played the new sim city?
00:40.36lhunathellipsis: http://www.lhunath.lyndir.com/stuff/Picture 1.png
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00:41.09Ellipsisneato
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00:42.39ElgrimHey does anyone know what the warlock addon that adds a small round shadowbolt icon somewhere in the screen when nightfall is triggered?
00:42.46Elgrimwhat its called..
00:42.51bigzerohyperChipmunk, can I request a small addition to BulkMail?
00:43.46bigzeroalso, anyone know why something in Ace2 would be blocking /target command?
00:44.43Arrowmasterdo /console taintLog 2
00:44.49Arrowmasterthen try /target again
00:45.46Arrowmasteri got that the other day with /tar but /target worked fine
00:46.02Arrowmasteronce you get the error again do /console taintLog 0
00:48.01JagobahtaintLog !
00:50.48charonthat tar results in taints is hardly surpising, is it
00:50.48CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r55922 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/xprepbar/xprepbar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: inherit check corrected
00:52.24CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55923 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua: Cartographer_Foglight: 2.3 bugfix again, hopefully for the last time
00:53.12Orionshockwhats the easiest way to fake a D/C w/out ppl knowing
00:53.26MentalPowerOrionshock: pull the ethernet cable
00:53.28MentalPower:)
00:53.34Orionshocknot a bad idea
00:53.34KalrothTell them you don't want to play with them
00:53.41aestilalt+f4
00:53.44Arrowmasterfucking terokkar forest map having a blank GetMapOverlayInfo() return in the middle of the proper returns
00:54.25MentalPowerwell alt+f4 does not save your SVs, so you'll use old SVs when you return
00:54.42Arrowmasterso do /rl first!
00:54.47Orionshockno need
00:55.33Nargiddleyalt+f4 has saved them for a while now
00:55.40KalrothOrionshock: if it's for testing, then get http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Networking/TcpView.mspx - you can kill connections through it
00:56.10Xinhuanfor me, alt-f4 has ALWAYS saved SVs
00:56.13CIA-4003xinhuan * r55924 10BankItems/ (BankItems.lua BankItems.toc): BankItems: Now records guild bank contents when you visit the guild bank. There is NO code to display the saved contents yet. Coming soon.
00:56.20Xinhuani haven't yet found a case where alt-f4 doesn't save SVs yet
00:56.27Xinhuanover 460 days of /played :)
00:56.55KalrothXinhuan: I've had it corrupt my SVs once
00:57.00Nargiddleyit has since at least 2.0, it diddnt at some stage before that
00:58.13Xinhuanbtw, if you fake a d/c
00:58.26Xinhuanmake sure you also d/c from the relevant ventrilos and IRCs
00:58.37Xinhuani know someone that once faked a d/c, but left IRC with a QUIT message
00:58.39winkillermhm, Grid got no test mode, right?
00:58.51Xinhuanso we knew it was a fake d/c
00:59.54StanzillaXinhuan: I would just cancel my wlan connection :P => ping timeout
00:59.56NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: hah, nice.
01:00.13NightHawkTheSaneI'd just pick up my phone. that disconnects me. ><
01:00.18Xinhuanhah
01:00.20winkillerI got no one from my realm on irc
01:00.24Xinhuanno microfilter?
01:01.23NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: i have one, but *shrug* thing is, it's not an actual phone line, it's the front door intercom that gets piped through the same line
01:01.28NightHawkTheSaneI think it fucks up the dsl signal
01:01.34Xinhuan:o
01:02.32NightHawkTheSanealso, woah, they made the boats rock back and forth?
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01:03.41EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: are you sure you're not living in my parents' house?
01:04.13Ellipsiswe had the same problem, had to get qwest to run a second line from the street just for the dsl signal
01:04.19NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: maybe i -am- your parents.
01:04.22Ellipsisoh snap!
01:04.25Kuja^:o
01:04.37Ellipsisnah, I know my parents can't play WoW. they couldn't even figure out RuneScape.
01:04.37NightHawkTheSanealso, you totally need to call your mother more. she worries, you know.
01:04.39KivinAnyone used LibRockTimer-1.0 at all?
01:05.19NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: unfortunately this is an apartment complex, i'm not sure i could get that done
01:06.29Xinhuanjust sounds like really bad quality lines from the phone company
01:07.07Xinhuanor the insulation isn't enough or something
01:07.24NightHawkTheSanecould be
01:09.58Ellipsishttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3120973707&sid=1 << I lol'ed
01:10.30durcyncurious.
01:24.02ElgrimHey does anyone know what the warlock addon that adds a small round shadowbolt icon on the screen when you have nightfall is called?
01:24.14durcyninstabolt, among others
01:26.05Elgrimhum
01:26.09Elgrimi just want the icon
01:26.29Elgrimdurcyn doesnt instabolt autoshoot the shadowbolt or some crap like that?
01:26.44Ellipsisthat's not possible...
01:26.49Elgrimok :D
01:26.54durcyni'd be impressed if it did, seeing as CastSpellByName hasn't worked since 2.0 went live ;)
01:26.55Ellipsisinstabolt will show an icon though, iirc
01:27.24Elgrimok ill try it out
01:27.36pigglesnercrosis does it also
01:27.39Elgrimis it on SVN?
01:27.59Elgrimwell necrosis adds alot of crap ye?
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01:28.12pigglesmost of it is usefull though
01:28.14durcynnecrosis is a turd, wrapped in crap, boiled in shit
01:28.25pigglesbut i turned most of it off
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01:31.57Elgrimhum
01:31.59Poul|RaiderSo anyone good at svn that could guide me with a few command lines. if i want to submit a folder to svn.lol/branches/raider what would i do then?
01:32.06Elgriminstabolt seems to add a screenflash effect
01:32.09Elgrimbut no icon?
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02:04.24CIA-4003bayi * r55925 10beql/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
02:04.24CIA-40beql:
02:04.24CIA-40- V0.98
02:04.24CIA-40- TOC: Updated for 2.3
02:04.24CIA-40- History: Removed... developing in the future as a seperate addon
02:04.24CIA-40- Bug: Unpushable buttons with some ui settings fixed
02:04.26CIA-40- Bug: Armory incompatiblity solved by Armory author
02:09.24Poul|RaiderAnyone here who know alot about svn and how it works etc? posible to make svn auto zip things after commits for easy download?
02:10.09ulicPoul|Raider: they have a script that does just that every 20 mins.  It generates new zip files that appear on files.wowace.com
02:11.07Poul|Raiderhmm, oki. Know if something like that is possible with sourceforge svn?
02:11.29ulicI have no idea, wowace is all done on the backend.
02:11.47ulicjust google, generate zip files from svn
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02:12.50Arrowmasterthe auto zip scripts are done every 20 minutes, since i doubt you can set something up to run like that on sourceforge then no
02:13.08NightHawkTheSanehmm, how do you open the door tothe final bosses in zf if you kill the goblin who normally blows it?
02:13.09Arrowmasterthey used to be done with postcommit hooks which i also doubt you can do on sourceforge
02:13.31Poul|Raideroki
02:14.01Arrowmasteri think googlecode has something to make zips from the svn when you tell it to
02:14.15Pkekyo|why haven't there been made a fourth matrix movie yet? the third (and so far) final movie soooooooo leaves you hanging
02:14.28Arrowmasterbecause that series sucked
02:14.37MentalPowerPkekyo|: play the MMO
02:14.43MentalPoweror rather, read its story
02:14.45Arrowmasterand all the 'fans' hate the directors now
02:14.56Pkekyo|why?
02:15.25Pkekyo|I just liked all the fancypants green and yellow lights tbh :>
02:16.26Ellipsisshiny things are distracting!
02:16.54Arrowmasterthe story sucked
02:17.26Arrowmastereven the story in the first movie wasnt that great since it was mostly linear
02:18.03Pkekyo|are there that many non-linear movies out there?
02:18.38Pkekyo|Ellipsis: true, but they're all so purty<3
02:19.24Pkekyo|the one movie that springs to mind is Memento...
02:19.45Arrowmasterwell i mean it was extremely linear, not much really happened since it was mostly just them running or fighting
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02:20.50NightHawkTheSanethere's a number of non-linear movies.
02:23.28Pkekyo|NightHawkTheSane: care to elaborate?
02:23.40CIA-4003nymbia * r55926 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (5 files in 5 dirs): LibPeriodicTable-3.1: Automated dataminer update
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02:30.48Pkekyo|off...g'nite all
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02:33.16NightHawkTheSanePkekyo|: well, memento and pulp fiction both come to mind
02:33.34NightHawkTheSanereally, a number of things by quentin tarantino
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02:41.35dylanmNightHawkTheSane: Reservoir dogs!
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02:45.42CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55927 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: added Amani Pass (subzone with Zul'Aman entrance) translations needed
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02:52.46CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55928 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2: added Amani Pass (subzone with Zul'Aman entrance) translations needed
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02:59.02starlonhttp://pastebin.com/m3d7b8035
02:59.37starlonAnyone know how I can fix that? I have AceConsole-2.0
03:06.37CIA-40tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r728 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/05_13_Eversong.lua: TourGuide - Fix Issue #136
03:07.45Arrowmasteranybody know if they changed SM yet to be contested?
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03:21.54bigzerohyperChipmunk, ping
03:22.39CIA-4003zuno * r55929 10UnitActionBars2/StateData.lua:
03:22.39CIA-40UnitActionBars2:
03:22.39CIA-40- Fixed incorrect calls to ReApplyPointAttributes to ReApplySetPointAttributes
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03:26.10starlonSM?
03:27.27Orionshockstarlon: do u have the Ace2 framework core? the "Ace2" zip off the files site
03:28.00starlonyes
03:28.12Orionshockhum...
03:28.26Orionshocktry adding Ace2 to the opt deps of cart mining
03:28.50Orionshock<PROTECTED>
03:28.56starlonYep
03:29.43bigzerohey, is there an alternative to EQCompare? i'm kinda working on rewritting it, but if there is one i won't bother
03:29.55Orionshockstarlon:  try /print =-
03:30.01Orionshockshould error liek this
03:30.10OrionshockError: [string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(=-)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '='
03:30.12Orionshockright?
03:30.23Orionshockbigzero: tekKompare
03:30.39bigzeronot on wowace though, right?
03:31.04OrionshockTekkub: whats ur svn again?
03:31.14Tekkubcode.tekkub.net
03:31.14nymbiabigzero: Tekkub's got it sneakily hidden away
03:31.24bigzerobastard!!!
03:31.26bigzero:-)
03:31.30Orionshockbigzero: tekKompare dosn't need to be updated every 5 mins so it's not something to freak about
03:31.42nymbiaYES IT DOES
03:31.50nymbiaGIEV UPDATEZ
03:32.13OrionshockMUST TOUCH EVERY 5 MINS !!!
03:32.21Tekkubupdate frequency is inversly proportional to addon size
03:32.28TekkubtK is like 100 lines
03:32.40Tekkubso that's an update roughly every 5 years?
03:32.46Orionshockupdated every 10months with patches...
03:32.49starlonGot Error: [string "Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(=-)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '='
03:32.55Orionshock....
03:33.04Orionshockstarlon: what you have is a load sequence issue
03:33.08Orionshockhave a day !
03:33.08Arrowmasterlua> =-
03:33.21nymbiastarlon: you probably deserved it.
03:33.29starlonyeah figured as much
03:33.32OrionshockArrowmaster: the point was to see if he had it installed, and that was the simplest test i could think of
03:33.33Tekkub=- doesn't exist in lua
03:33.51Orionshockit was suposed to error
03:33.59Arrowmasterand rock overwrites ace2's /print
03:34.20Orionshocknot always, it depends on what loads first / last
03:34.32nymbiaFRAMEWORK FIGHT!
03:34.34Arrowmasterperty sure rock loads latter than ace2 for me
03:34.36Orionshock<PROTECTED>
03:34.53Arrowmasteryeah rock has mine
03:35.12Orionshockreload ur UI, ace will prolly have it :P
03:36.24Orionshocklua> print(a=b)
03:36.44Orionshockand wow does the same thing
03:37.01Kuja^nymbia: so, what do you think, is that a bulkmail issue or not? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4097.msg160620#msg160620
03:38.42nymbiaKuja^: nope, thats my problem
03:39.19nymbiathought i had fixed those, lemme check the log..
03:39.29nymbiaKuja^: thanks
03:39.38Kuja^no problem
03:40.17starlonWell, loading Cartographer and its modules alone with Ace2 and Rock produces no errors. In fact, Guild Positions is working now for the first time since Rock came to be.
03:41.56Orionshocksylvanaar: your mean... but dear god that link is so full of win and awesomeness,  re: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10090.msg160970#msg160970
03:43.00sylvanaarhaha
03:44.35Arrowmasteri actually have a commit to make to fix guild possitons but im working on something else before i commit it
03:45.13Dont_code_and_drhmm, too long :p
03:45.15Orionshock<PROTECTED>
03:45.29Orionshock<PROTECTED>
03:45.54sylvanaari found that the other day while reading through the smoothwall support forum
03:46.52Xyphor_drunkI believe I just screwed my own project ^^
03:47.04Orionshockwell it was more sad and depressing to read the opening to that than funny, as i do tech support... and it's very real just how stupid people are...
03:48.27CIA-4003nymbia * r55930 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1.lua:
03:48.27CIA-40LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
03:48.27CIA-40- Don't error when erroring. Use asserts.. this should all work, but it's drycoded... lemme know of any errors.
03:48.55Orionshocknymbia: i found an error that's erroring....
03:49.04nymbiaOrionshock: EXACTLY! ;)
03:49.15NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's erroring
03:49.20Orionshocklol
03:49.32starlonshe was lastnight
03:49.40Orionshockim serious,ln 25
03:49.42Xyphor_drunkWhat to do if your own addon shows up, but cannot be configured anymore :/
03:50.09Xyphor_drunknot serious question, just ignore it :p
03:52.02CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55931 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0: fix AV level and add Amani Pass but not link it to anything yet
03:52.12thulhmm
03:52.15thulany mace rogues here? :-P
03:52.18nymbiaOrionshock: line 25 of what?  line 25 of PT3.1 is uh.. "License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software"
03:52.45nymbiaOrionshock: TERRIBLE!
03:53.29Orionshocki wanted to see if you would check ....
03:53.44starlonah figured it out
03:53.45nymbiashit.
03:54.03Orionshockwith commit logs like that i've got to give the obligatory sanity check..
03:54.09CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55932 10Cartographer/ (embeds.xml libs/): Cartographer: add Babble-Class-2.2 to embeds
03:54.40XyphorIs there a minimum amount of hatefulness towards blizzard before you start coding?
03:54.55nymbiadepends what you're coding
03:54.59Kuja^mmm im to lazy to check out from svn... the zipscript shit hurry up :p
03:55.03Arrowmasternow somebody figure out wtf is wrong with Dewdrop-2.0 and cartographer, so many people are complaining about it but i tried using nothing but the cartographer.zip with embeds and it worked fine
03:55.08Xyphorwell, lua since I'm here ^^
03:55.11Kuja^s/shit/should
03:55.13Kuja^oops
03:55.22nymbiacoding against something like the tradeskill or mail API, you're gonna hate em eventually ;)
03:55.33Ellipsisif there really is a minimum, it surely isn't that high...a quick skim over framexml should get you past that point
03:55.43nymbialol
03:55.52XyphorI'm just trying to get the current (fishing)skill in my addon! They won't let me...
03:56.01OrionshockArrowmaster: it's a load sequence issue 9/10
03:56.47OrionshockXyphor: i did quests and i hated it after about the 8 func call...
03:56.53Arrowmasteryeah im tempted to just change line 7 from 'local Dewdrop = Rock("Dewdrop-2.0")' to 'local Dewdrop = AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0")' and see what happens
03:57.09Orionshockno no
03:57.12Xyphorquests? Not talking about that...
03:57.30Orionshockthis is a pre PEW / OnInit problem
03:57.49Orionshockwow loads addons in a seemingly random order
03:57.49Arrowmasterwell the people complaining about it are all using embeds i think
03:58.09Orionshockand usualy they are bitching about modules that use dewdrop not working
03:58.16Orionshockor tablet
03:58.22Orionshockor /... aceconsole
03:58.37Ellipsisthe random order shouldn't matter if optdeps are set correctly
03:58.41Ellipsisthat's the whole point of optdeps
03:58.55Arrowmasterbut these people are using embeds
03:58.59Orionshockyes but what says that Opt Deps MUST ALL load first?
03:59.07Ellipsisum...blizzard enforces that
03:59.25Orionshockopt deps just mean that wow wants to load them first
03:59.29Ellipsisif your addon optdeps a lib, and that lib is present, the lib will load before your addon
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03:59.41thul<PROTECTED>
03:59.59Orionshockthul:  neither
04:00.01thulthe choices, the choices :-(
04:00.02CIA-4003arrowmaster * r55933 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer: i have no clue if this will fix the reports about Dewdrop-2.0 not found errors but lets try it
04:00.03thulOrionshock: eererr
04:00.04Orionshockhemo is homo :P
04:00.10thulhemo owns your ass :-P
04:00.12Arrowmasteri hope i got that in before the zip script
04:00.13thulha ha :-P
04:00.33durcynArrowmaster: er, carto doesn't use dewdrop, what?
04:00.38Arrowmasteryes it does
04:00.52thulhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve <- new head, new pants, new mh and oh.. and some more +hit, and I'm good to go .. :-P
04:01.01durcynoh, hrm.
04:01.34thulI should get 3 more netherbladestuff :-(
04:01.54thul4 gladiator + 4 netherblade :-( but that can be hard i guess.. :-P
04:02.21Arrowmasterrofl lvl 63 alt in guild just got heroic hellfire key
04:05.34RaydenUniso feral druid weapons aren't for anything but stats right?
04:05.59ulicyep, I'm glad and sad they lowered it to Honor'd all at the same time.
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04:07.32XuerianIt's a nice thing for good players
04:07.38XuerianIt's a horrible, horrible thing for bad ones
04:07.39NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUni: yes
04:07.52NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUni: druids get absolutely nothing from the listed dps or chance-on-hit abilities
04:08.11NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: my solution? don't group with the bad ones.
04:08.13RaydenUniok
04:08.14RaydenUnicool
04:08.25RaydenUniso i should just be looking at +sta and +str mostly?
04:08.28RaydenUnimaybe some +agi
04:08.33XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Easy said, hard done. Aside from guildies
04:08.36NightHawkTheSaneyeah
04:08.41NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: don't pug? :P
04:09.10NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUni: agi/sta is probably best for tanking, str/agi/ap is probably best for cat dps.
04:09.25Mudkipznot any more
04:09.33Mudkipzsince 2.3 agi reigns supreme
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04:09.48Mudkipzwith the hotw changes
04:09.57NightHawkTheSaneoh? *shrug* i'm not terribly up on druid mechanics
04:10.24Mudkipzso I found some smash brothers 64 videos on youtube
04:10.28XuerianAgi = crit+dodge = win
04:10.30NightHawkTheSaneso really, you just itemize like a rogue, i guess.
04:10.45Mudkipzwell it's difficult
04:10.56Mudkipzyou have to find the proper slot and it always depends on what you have
04:11.02NightHawkTheSane*nod*
04:11.19Mudkipzthere is not real best gear for this form list that I agree with
04:11.22Mudkipzno real*
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04:12.01Garoun|LoupanaNymbia getting a few errors with periodictable lib
04:12.15Mudkipzbut I try to keep stats near the hitcap, 40% crit in cat, and 3k AP
04:12.32Mudkipzas long as you are near that range, it's just about balancing what you need most
04:14.10Garoun|Loupana9 of them, at 23:07:44 eastern, LibPeriodicTable-3.1.lua:307 invalid arg3
04:15.56Garoun|Loupanaall of them are that error followed by must be a table followed by in function `AddData'\n
04:16.25kebinusanyeah getting that too
04:16.51Orionshockis there any way to get download stats off the files site?
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04:17.06Kuja^nymbia: http://pastebin.znc.in/index.php?show=181
04:18.07Garoun|LoupanaThanks Kuja
04:18.17Garoun|Loupanathe first 3 lines are the exact error I get
04:18.44Kuja^oops didn't read the backlog :D
04:20.05SilowyiYou know the little portrait you get in most inspect addons when you select a mob
04:20.22SilowyiIs there a way to scale that larger?
04:20.40CIA-4003quagmire * r55934 10nQuestLog/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
04:20.40CIA-40nQuestLog:BlizzardFrames
04:20.40CIA-40- Added option to hide Blizzard quest tracker (on by default)
04:20.40CIA-40- Added option to set Blizzard quest log scale
04:20.40CIA-40- Added option to make the Blizzard quest log moveable and save the new position
04:21.08ArrowmasterOrionshock: i dont think so because it takes a long time for something to parse the log files to generate the stats
04:21.44Arrowmasterwho is this quagmire and why isnt he in irc
04:22.03SilowyiYou probably could record a download count fairly easily without resorting to log parsing
04:22.18Arrowmasterno you cant
04:22.25Silowyiafter all, curse records download counts (but I think they do it by nightly parsing)
04:22.30Silowyiwell ok >we< couldn't
04:22.40Silowyiwhoever is admining wowace.com could
04:22.41Arrowmasterthey do it differently
04:22.58Arrowmasterthey track the redirects to the files
04:23.00Silowyimost sites do it via url redirects
04:23.01NightHawkTheSanetheir download links are scripts, not just links to files
04:23.22SilowyiI wonder if subversion checks stuff like that
04:23.32Silowyiif so you could probably track wau downloads at least
04:23.39Arrowmasterand wowace is running a very lightweight web server
04:23.43OrionshockSilowyi: wau = files site
04:23.59Silowyiwau doesn't use svn? Hmm, well explains why it's so fast
04:24.21OrionshockSilowyi: it can... you just have to tell it to and then give it the tools to do it
04:24.25Arrowmasterwau downloads zip files that are ziped from the svn every 20 minutes
04:25.51Orionshockwau keeps track of the svn version of clique, tekkompare, and a few of my own addons here on wowace, atleas for me
04:28.56Silowyiyeah I saw the option for downloading from svn
04:29.20Silowyibut I sort of thought it was using svn to download the trunk, and that downloading from svn meant downloading branches
04:29.36Orionshocklol no
04:29.44Orionshockwell
04:29.56SilowyiI suppose the fact that it "parses index.html" or whatever at the start should have been a BIG CLUE though
04:30.09NightHawkTheSanewau still parses index.html?
04:30.12Arrowmasterno
04:30.24SilowyiI'm not using wau2
04:30.37Arrowmasterare you using 1.9.44?
04:30.41Orionshockmore like if you svn down something and tell wau to not skip svn working copies & install a CLI SVN client - it'll do a svn update on what ever has a .svn folder in it
04:31.01SilowyiWAU Version (1.9.45.712) assembly version (1.9.45.712)
04:31.02SilowyiParsing 1111 Entries In The Index File...Complete
04:31.13Arrowmasteryeah its not using index.html
04:31.23Arrowmasterits reading a .xml file
04:31.26Silowyiah
04:31.29Silowyiwell that works too
04:31.35NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i was going to say
04:33.22CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r55935 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
04:33.22CIA-40LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
04:33.22CIA-40- Update zhTW translation.
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04:35.25bigzerois AceOO required by any of the libs included in Ace2?
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04:35.52jwwpuais SanityBags still being developed?
04:36.05Silowyislowly
04:36.09jwwpua:(
04:36.16SilowyiAntiarc has other things to focus on, and SanityBags is just a hobby
04:36.16jwwpuait's an awesome addon, just a few quirks
04:36.38SilowyiI think Sanity2 though is still being pretty actively managed
04:37.20jwwpuayeah I'm using that right now. it's awesome too
04:38.31jwwpuaany idea if Cartographer group colors (on BG minimap) will be fixed?
04:38.43jwwpuait works fine if you disable/enable it after you join, could this be automated?
04:43.12bigzeroso if I rewrote EQCompare, could I still just upload it to svn under the same heading? not even going to change the author or anything..it'll be just like an update. tekKompare is nice and all, but I'd like to keep this type of addon going on the wowace svn for convenience
04:44.22bigzeroit performs all the same functions (on link hoverring got removed), i just updated it for 2.x, since someone was complaining that it asn't updated
04:44.40CIA-4003nymbia * r55936 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/data.lua:
04:44.40CIA-40LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
04:44.40CIA-40- Delete all InstanceLoot data from data.lua, in preperation to
04:44.40CIA-40regenerate it
04:45.46Orionshockbigzero: there is no establish protocol to picking up an abandon'ed addon
04:46.11Arrowmasterbigzero: dont do it
04:46.31bigzerodifferent name?
04:46.34Arrowmasteryes
04:46.55Arrowmasteratleast for that particular addon
04:47.06Orionshocklol
04:48.24sylvanaarwell folks take care - see ya later
04:48.37NightHawkTheSaneill take care of YOU
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04:49.14bigzeroanyone have any nifty names in mind for an addon like this? I was thinking something like Mirror
04:50.31murpd_Hello everyone
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04:51.43murpd_I have a quick question about CastComLib if someone would mind helpin me
04:52.05bigzeroask away...maybe someone will
04:52.11Shirik|Ecole~asktoask
04:52.11purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
04:52.38murpd_.... true :P   i use irc alot, just mainly u dont get answers
04:52.51Ellipsiswell you definitely won't get answers if you don't ask the question :P
04:52.55bigzerolol
04:53.01xyumainly you get people who don't know ^^
04:53.23murpd_When using CastComLib  do you have to send the cast event.... or does it do that automaticly and all u have to do is handle the recive
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04:53.34murpd_receive*
04:53.39Arrowmasterit sends them
04:54.04murpd_cool.  was lookin through it and was wonderin how the hell to send em >.>
04:57.29CIA-4003nymbia 07Ace3 * r55937 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua:
04:57.29CIA-40Quartz:
04:57.29CIA-40- Quash a global
04:58.23Arrowmasterget that one in trunk too
04:58.32Arrowmasteri would but i have no clue wtf its for
05:00.33CIA-4003bigzero * r55938 10Mirror/ (. Mirror.lua Mirror.toc Mirror.xml embeds.xml):
05:00.33CIA-40Mirror: initial commit
05:00.33CIA-40- Compare equipped inventory items with items in your bags/bank and item links
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05:01.21nymbiaArrowmaster: it doesnt do anything at all, heh
05:01.34nymbiaArrowmaster: some old var that it doesnt use anymore
05:02.03Orionshockis there some way to intentionaly introduce taint on a variable?
05:02.10Orionshockso that i can find what file it's in....
05:02.25CIA-4003nymbia * r55939 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua:
05:02.25CIA-40Quartz:
05:02.25CIA-40- Globals smell funny
05:02.55nymbiaOrionshock: varToTaint = varToTaint
05:03.11kenlyricwhy am I dumb?
05:03.19kenlyricwhere is the setting to make the Grid center icon smaller?
05:03.23Orionshock...
05:03.39nymbiakenlyric: because you touch yourself at night
05:04.54CIA-4003bigzero * r55940 10Mirror/:
05:04.54CIA-40Mirror:
05:04.54CIA-40- externals set
05:06.25kenlyricmaybe there is no option?
05:06.28CIA-4003nymbia * r55941 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs): LibPeriodicTable-3.1: Automated dataminer update
05:06.43Orionshocknot acp :(
05:06.45Orionshockvariable _ tainted by ACP - Interface\AddOns\ACP\ACP.lua:481
05:06.58Orionshockvariable _ tainted by AutoBar
05:07.08nymbiahehe
05:07.45murpdthanks for the answers guys.... ill try and jump in here more often.... writing a raid healing addon
05:09.14OrionshockGDI taintlog gets big really really fast when u have it set to 2
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05:09.58bigzerowhat's the actual difference between 1 and 2?
05:10.00Ellipsisthen don't set it to 2
05:10.14nymbia1 shows blocked stuff, 2 shows all taint to globals
05:10.14Obelixprimei thought you could make multiple autobars
05:10.16Ellipsis1 logs blocked actions, 2 logs (almost) all taint
05:10.32bigzeroah, well then 1 is all most people need
05:10.37Ellipsisyes, if that
05:10.43bigzero2 is ridiculous...logs changes to every global variable
05:10.47Ellipsis2 is generally not necessary unless you're debugging
05:12.11Orionshocksomeone needs to go kick automation in the code, GetAvailableGossipQuest() returns in triplets not pairs now..
05:14.31kenlyricmeeeeh
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05:16.13bigzerowowace updater updates the lists every 15 minutes, right? or was it 20?
05:16.27Orionshock20
05:17.19kenlyricthe gossip it skips is mostly gone.
05:18.04Orionshocknot extactly
05:18.11bigzeroback to a question I asked before...if you don't explicitly use AceOO, is it necessary to embed it? as in, does any ace2 lib use aceOO?
05:18.35Orionshockalot of people mis understood what that patch note was about -- Single Function NPC's such as bankers and flight masters had their gossip text removed,
05:18.56Orionshockif an npc has a quest on it then it can have gossip text before the quest
05:19.22Orionshockbigzero: AceOO is teh glue of ace you could say
05:20.02Orionshockif you use any libs at all, you must use it as an external, but if you don't expicitly need it in your addon then you don't have to embed it
05:20.06kenlyricall the places that annoyed me have gone. I guess when I run across a quest like that I'll enable it again.
05:20.28kenlyricwtflux?
05:20.37kenlyricmah PT is broked
05:20.38bigzeroso lets say I use AceLibrary, AceAddon, and AceHook...would I need AceOO?
05:21.15Orionshockonly on principal not in practice
05:21.26OrionshockaceLib uses aceOO to embed the libs
05:22.14bigzeroso if I exclude AceOO from externals, and someone downloads my addon as the only ace2 addon, it will not work, right?
05:22.21Orionshockcorrect
05:22.31bigzerook, then I need to include it :-)
05:22.46Orionshocklike my bloated little addon "fubar_reportafk" dosn't use aceOO at all
05:23.05Orionshockbut because the libs that i do use , use aceOO i have to include it
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05:24.12CIA-803bigzero * r55942 10Mirror/:
05:24.12CIA-8Mirror:
05:24.12CIA-8- Added AceOO-2.0 as external
05:25.30Orionshockthen again - i went though each lib and check to make sure it needed ace OO
05:25.45Arrowmasteraceevent needs aceoo
05:25.51Arrowmasteraceaddon too i think
05:27.42Orionshocksee 2 fundamental libs - instantly fooked
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05:28.40Arrowmasterand in your embeds.xml you have to make sure aceoo is loaded directly after acelibrary, nothing should be between them
05:28.41sag_ich_nichtWTB Addon that shows the energycost of abilities on the actionbar, BT3 to be specific.
05:29.52Mudkipzhae?
05:30.17NightHawkTheSanedrdamage probably can, though that would be massive overkill
05:30.48CIA-803kuja * r55943 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/ (. LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua):
05:30.48CIA-8LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
05:30.48CIA-8- deDE update
05:31.02Arrowmasterdrdamage doesnt scan the tooltips for energy/mana cost anymore i dont think
05:31.54Kuja^hmm why do some commits change the first line of a file even when i haven't done anything to that line? :o
05:32.07Arrowmasterbecause of your editor
05:32.09Orionshockutf-8 encoding
05:32.41kebinusannymbia: Im still getting pt3 errors
05:32.54kebinusanLibPeriodicTable-3.1\LibPeriodicTable-3.1.lua:307: Invalid arg3: must be a table
05:33.49nymbiaoops
05:34.12ArrowmasterKuja^: what editor are you using?
05:34.21Kuja^pspad
05:34.40Arrowmastercheck to see if it has an encoding setting
05:34.53CIA-803nymbia * r55944 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1.lua:
05:34.53CIA-8LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
05:34.54CIA-8- Fisker` did it.
05:34.54nymbiakebinusan: ^
05:35.03Kuja^it has and it is set to utf-8
05:35.22Arrowmasteris there another utf-8 option?
05:35.54Gnarfozyes there is
05:36.08Gnarfozcheck if you have it set to write Byte Order Markers
05:37.09GnarfozKuja^: settings/program settings/program behaviour/ident.bytes in UTF-8 coding
05:37.25NightHawkTheSanegood deal
05:37.27NightHawkTheSanemt
05:37.33NightHawkTheSanewrong fucking application even. >.>
05:38.23Gnarfozheh NightHawkTheSane
05:38.45NightHawkTheSanesadly. I do that all the time.
05:39.51Kuja^Gnarfoz: so it should be checked or not? it isn't
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05:40.08GnarfozKuja^: has to be checked
05:40.16Kuja^okay, thanks
05:40.19kebinusanhehe ty
05:40.30GnarfozKuja^: otherwise it will interpret them as text and then save that out, changing the first line of the file
05:42.26Orionshockfear is bad mkay?
05:42.46Ellipsisbad for whom?
05:42.56Orionshockfor me...
05:43.12Orionshockdoing 5? pull in heroic SP, and i get feared right into the next set of mobs....
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05:43.21Orionshock*5th?
05:43.23mjcXuerian: ping
05:43.41Xuerianmjc: pong
05:45.40kenlyricodd... Prayer of Binding wouldn't bind to Ctrl-V, but renew would.
05:46.38mjcXuerian: msg
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05:47.31CIA-803arrowmaster * r55945 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: fix utf8 bom
05:47.48Arrowmasterin before some asian translator fucks some shit up
05:48.37kenlyricno, doesn't work.
05:48.51kenlyricevery time it firest it goes to my target instead of my mouse target.
05:49.13Xuerianmjc: login
05:50.20Xuerianmjc: I can't get your /msg's if you're not auth'd
05:52.57mjcah
05:53.23mjcaim.
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05:59.27kenlyricinteresting factenoid. click2cast breaks on buttons which are bound to modifier keys.
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05:59.38kenlyricwell, to ctrl modifier, at least.
05:59.41bigzerowho takes care of TipHooker?
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06:03.58CIA-803bigzero * r55946 10Mirror/embeds.xml:
06:03.58CIA-8Mirror:
06:03.58CIA-8- Added AceOO-2.0 to embeds
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06:11.48kenlyricinteresting. click2cast only seems to recognize specific mouse buttons.
06:12.10CIA-803arrowmaster * r55947 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: VersionQuery - minor bugfix to display
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06:27.08bigzerowould calling OnDisable() method of an addon properly disable it? I'm guessing no, but how would one do it?
06:27.27Shirik|Ecolethat depends on how you define "disabling" an addon
06:28.42bigzerowell, unregistering all events and unhooking it, so I suppose I could call those separately and then call OnDisable
06:28.47Diaoargh
06:28.53Diaonone of the hordeside enchanters are on
06:28.55Diaofor executioner
06:29.11Arrowmasterwhat are you trying to disable?
06:29.33bigzeroaltclicktoadditem when the inbox is showing
06:30.17Arrowmasterwhy not just delete it if its not needed anymore?
06:30.20bigzerooh, i guess i could ask if maybe there's an alternative to that, since it seems to be abandoned
06:30.55bigzeroi like it for trading and stuff, but I want it to be disabled so I can alt-click to send items using BM2
06:31.07Arrowmasterdefault interface does it for trades
06:31.29bigzeroit does? is there a setting for that or should it just work?
06:31.36Arrowmastershould just work
06:31.39bigzerohmmm
06:31.50sedatedChipmunkit only allows rightclick if the trade is open already
06:31.56sedatedChipmunkit can't initiate a trade
06:32.40bigzeroah, well that sucks then :-(
06:33.05sedatedChipmunkjust stick an     if not MailFrame:IsVisible()    in ACTAI
06:33.18Gnarfoz<Arrowmaster> in before some asian translator fucks some shit up <-- true
06:33.28bigzerohmm, will do
06:35.55Wobinnymbia: *poke*
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06:37.00Arrowmasterif you make a commit to ACTAI change 'function AltClickToAddItem:TFShow()' to 'function AltClickToAddItem:TFShow(...)' and 'self.hooks[TradeFrame].OnShow()' to 'self.hooks[TradeFrame].OnShow(...)'
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06:38.39Arrowmasterwait that addon already has code to not do anything if BM2 is loaded
06:38.41kenlyricsedatedChipmunk: did you see my earlier ping about BM and enhtooltip?
06:38.48sedatedChipmunkno
06:39.11kenlyricprobably an enhtooltip bug, but they don't play well together.
06:39.42kenlyricif you hover over something in the bm2 window that no longer is in the mailbox, it fires an error.
06:40.03kenlyric(because things remain in the bm2 window longer than they exist in the mailbox when you take all.
06:40.14sedatedChipmunki'm sleeping, but i'll take a look at it tomorrow
06:40.21bigzerothe ACTAI check for BM2 is whether or not to use it for attaching items to mail. It will still attempt to trade if you have a target selected
06:41.06kenlyricyou type well. see you later.
06:41.28Ellipsiskenlyric: was it an enhtooltip error or a blizz GTT usage message?
06:41.44Ellipsisit might be the one I already reported
06:42.28kenlyricit's a big orange error in chat window 1, though it does fire a couple errors that get trapped by bugsack too.
06:43.00bigzerofor some reason I can't add items to trade by alt-clicking without that addon.
06:43.33Arrowmasterits always worked for me
06:43.49Arrowmasteryou have to have the trade open already
06:43.58Ellipsisand it's right click
06:43.59Ellipsisnot alt
06:44.07Arrowmasterreally?
06:44.10Arrowmasterits been alt for me
06:44.16sedatedChipmunklots of addons add the code in where it does not belong
06:44.18Ellipsisthe default UI's implementation is right click
06:44.24Arrowmasterhmm
06:44.37Ellipsisif alt-click works for you, you probably have an addon doing that for you
06:44.49Arrowmasterwell i would hate it being right click, too easy to rightclick as somebodys running away and chug a pot or healthstone
06:45.03Ellipsisindeed
06:45.11bigzeroyup, so ACTAI shall live on :-)
06:45.14Ellipsisif only there was a way to undo the right-click addition >_>
06:45.19kenlyricright click is how you sell things.
06:45.25kenlyricit's the same basic concept
06:45.30Orionshockis there a way to hook sendaddonmessage with chatthroddle lib to where it throddles all traffic not just stuff rotued though it
06:45.39Ellipsiskenlyric: vendors don't open windows with me
06:45.54kenlyricuh, I don't know what kind of vendors you visit.
06:45.57ArrowmasterOrionshock: probably but i would consider that a bad idea
06:45.58Ellipsiserm
06:46.05kenlyricwindow in every one I visit.
06:46.19Ellipsissigh, you lost all the emphasis I tried to convey through text
06:46.29Ellipsisvendors don't open trades with me. I open trades with them.
06:46.30Arrowmasterand actually it already hooks SAM but only to monitor how much is sent, not to throttle it afaik
06:46.52Ellipsiswith the right-click addition, all someone has to do is open a trade window at the wrong time and I can't use a pot, item, whatever
06:47.21Orionshock... still goint 100$ USD by paypal to the first one to UnFuck GuildCalender to be functional instead of fucked
06:47.31Arrowmasteryeah i would actually rather have alt click for the mailbox instead of rightclick, since you cant open containers then
06:47.58Ellipsisthere are a million things the right click conflicts with, and that annoys me to no end
06:48.52kenlyricrightclick is 4 prayer of mending.
06:49.13Arrowmastereep
06:49.28kenlyricso, the whole issue with strange mice bindings and click addons isn't limited to to click2cast. Clique can't do it either.
06:49.30Arrowmasterrunning findstr on my addons directory for IsAltKeyDown() might not have been a good idea
06:49.40Ellipsiskenlyric: fail @ mouse imo
06:50.07Arrowmasterkenlyric: whats the issue?
06:50.15kenlyricno, i just like my buttons 4 and 5 to be useful outside of games.
06:50.26kenlyric4 and 5 are bound to Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V
06:50.31Arrowmasterwhat mouse?
06:50.34Ellipsisthey are, ever used a webbrowser? :P
06:50.39kenlyricso the click mods don't recognize them as mouse buttons.
06:50.48Arrowmasterthats because they arent mouse buttons
06:50.50kenlyricEllipsis: yeah, forward and back. Completely useless
06:50.55Ellipsishow is that useless?
06:50.56Arrowmasterwow doesnt recognize them as mouse buttons
06:51.05EllipsisI'm in pain without my mouse4/mouse5
06:51.09kenlyricah, so it's wow.
06:51.22Arrowmasteryes now what mouse? logitech or ms?
06:51.34kenlyricsorry, I guess I need to clarify that every time we talk. It's useless to me. I don't forward/back
06:51.42kenlyricArrowmaster: Logitech at home, MS at work.
06:51.45Ellipsisbut yeah, it sounds like your driver software is going to be sending key combos instead of a button press, so WoW can't actually tell that you're pressing a mouse button and not actually presing ctrl-c/v
06:52.05kenlyricyes, wow doesn't know I'm pressing a mouse button.
06:52.09Arrowmasterwell im perty sure with the logitech software you can set it to ignore games and use all standard button assignments
06:52.13kenlyricI guess that's why the spell works, but the target is wrong.
06:52.35kenlyricArrowmaster: ahhh. *that's* what that screen is for.
06:52.38Ellipsisyou could do something crazy like bind ctrl-c/v to mouseover macros
06:53.17Arrowmasteri havent used an ms mouse in years so i have no clue what their software can do
06:53.24kenlyricI think it can too.
06:55.28kenlyrichmmm.
06:55.43bigzerowith logitech + uberOptions you can setup your mouse however you like...switch options around in different apps. It's really nice
06:56.08Arrowmasterah ha, it was automation that was giving me the alt click at the mailbox
06:56.30kenlyric"Keep keypress button assignments" seems the thing to uncheck.
06:57.08RaydenUniscrew bear form
06:57.11RaydenUnientangling roots ftw in bg
06:59.04CIA-803bigzero * r55948 10AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem.lua:
06:59.04CIA-8AltClickToAddItem:
06:59.04CIA-8- Fixed BM2 and Postal support. No more trading while trying to mail items!
07:00.00bigzeroi think that should do it
07:00.09Arrowmasterlocal _, _, _, _, _, _, _, itemStackCount = GetItemInfo(GetMerchantItemLink(self.item))
07:00.14bigzeroew
07:00.14Arrowmasterthat line is still fugly
07:00.27Shirik|Ecolelol
07:00.29Civrock[2007/11/25 01:55:53-161-x1]: AceComm-2.0-49773 (Ace2):344: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value)
07:00.32Shirik|Ecolethat line is awesome
07:00.43bigzerolol, i as thinking of deleting that whole section actually
07:00.55bigzeropersonally i never use alt-click to buy stack
07:01.21bigzerodoesn't really go well with the addon name either
07:01.28bigzeroI don't even think it's documented
07:01.30Arrowmasterits fine
07:01.35bigzerofine, lol
07:01.54Arrowmasteralthough theres still too much usage of the global 'this' in that addon imho but i dont know if its avoidable
07:03.49XuerianAlright. Do we have a addon that acts like, say, Examiner, but is for trying stuff on? To where I can make a set of "Wishlist" gear and see what stats I get from it?
07:04.03ArrowmasterXuerian: yes
07:04.17XuerianDo tell
07:04.19bigzeroArrowmaster, it's used 3 times...
07:04.40Arrowmasterbigzero: the global 'this' is evil, it should be used 0 times!
07:05.53CIA-803fenlis * r55949 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
07:05.53CIA-8StatLogicLib:
07:05.53CIA-8<PROTECTED>
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07:06.53kenlyricArrowmaster: you know if the game setting only works in full screen games?
07:06.53bigzerowhat irc client do you guys use?
07:07.09ChexsumPJIRC
07:07.17Arrowmasterkenlyric: try adding wow.exe to the list of games on the right
07:07.25Chexsumaweome java client
07:07.31bigzeroew, java
07:07.36CIA-803fenlis * r55950 10StatStain/ (4 files):
07:07.36CIA-8StatStain:
07:07.36CIA-8- Added pattern for v2.3.0
07:07.37bigzeroawesome and jaa do not mix
07:07.40kenlyricummm.
07:07.40bigzerojava*
07:08.07Chexsumthe only good ones for windows arent free
07:08.22kenlyricthere is no list.
07:08.23Arrowmastermirc is 'free'
07:08.31bigzerowell, that never stopped anyone from using them really
07:08.39Chexsumonly for 30 days
07:08.42bigzeroArrowmaster, you use mirc?
07:08.42NightHawkTheSanex-chat is free
07:08.51Arrowmasterx-chat for windows sucks
07:08.57Chexsumxchat is 30day freebie as well
07:09.08Arrowmasterand its not 'free' either if you dont consider mirc 'free'
07:09.13Chexsumi used both before grabbing pjirc
07:09.16NightHawkTheSanethere's free builds of x-chat
07:09.43Arrowmasteri need to get another mirc key, the little box when i start mirc is starting to get annoying
07:10.03Arrowmastersaying that im 1785 days over the trial period
07:10.21bigzerolol, i was thinking the same exact thing just now, so i found a keygen :-0
07:10.21Ellipsiskeygen ftw?
07:10.33Arrowmastersorry, 1789 days now
07:10.47Arrowmasteri had a key before 6.3
07:10.48Ellipsismirc's key algo is ridiculously simple >_>
07:11.13Chexsumim int free software anyway
07:11.15Chexsuminto
07:11.39bigzerowow, seems like it connects to their server to check the serial now..
07:12.19kenlyricodd too, I remember an old version of setpoint that did let me list the games.
07:12.34Ellipsisit's on 6.3 already? sheesh
07:12.58Arrowmasterkenlyric: my setpoint lets me enter games
07:13.09kenlyrictheir help file says I should be able to.
07:13.23Arrowmasterbut i have an mx518 so i dont know if the lasers use a newer software
07:15.45bigzerosetpoint software i'm using (with uberOptions) allows me to list exacly what apps i want the settings to apply to
07:16.39kenlyricapparently mine has special retarded software.
07:17.15Arrowmasterwhat model exactly?
07:17.51kenlyric3200
07:18.10Arrowmasterand under mouse game settings you dont have an "advanced game settings..." button in the lower right corner?
07:18.41kenlyricnope, not on any of the screens.
07:18.56kenlyricapparently they just like to disable shit randomly in their software.
07:19.08kenlyricI know my old logitech had that.
07:19.36Arrowmasterim using 3.1.116
07:19.48Arrowmasterwhich is probably old
07:20.04kenlyricmx600 is the mouse.
07:20.37bigzeromirc 6.3 is getting on my nerve with the system tray icon and I can't find a way to disable it
07:20.42kenlyricjust a little old :)
07:22.19Arrowmasterlol i havent had a system tray icon in mirc in forever
07:22.59Arrowmasteralt-o display options tray
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07:24.01bigzerozomg...thank you
07:24.44bigzerooh and one other thing, could you post the macro you use for replying to people...I wrote it out several times myself, but this is a fresh install and i'm being lazy :-)
07:24.54vince`replying to people?
07:25.49bigzerolike, "Arrowmaster, yada yada yada".. i assume people don't generally type out the name
07:26.18mjcI use prat for that; hit tab to complete nick
07:26.27mjcin both irc and prat :P
07:27.23bigzerooh, tab...good invention...I used to make a /r macro to reply to a selected nick
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07:29.11NightHawkTheSanetab completion is for the win.
07:29.25Ellipsisno wai, typing out nicks is so much better, NightHawkTheSane
07:29.41NightHawkTheSaneit totally is Ellipsis, which is why I made mine so long.
07:29.48NightHawkTheSaneso I can prolong the enjoyment of others.
07:29.55bigzerolol
07:30.00Ellipsisyou really know how to make it last <3
07:30.01bigzero<--noob
07:30.23NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: that's what she said.
07:30.37Ellipsisyes, that is what I said. o.O
07:30.45NightHawkTheSanealright. so we're in agreement.
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07:34.31NightHawkTheSaneshit! sg:a!~
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07:37.11Arrowmasterits on?
07:38.25Fisker-oh u nymbia
07:38.28Fisker-what did i do_
07:38.31Fisker-_
07:38.32Fisker-?
07:38.40Ellipsisfailed @ typing, for one
07:39.04NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: no, but i forgot about friday's ep
07:39.32Fisker-that's because i have english as well as danish keyboard layouts
07:39.36Fisker-so i didn't fail at typing
07:39.37Fisker-fucking owned
07:39.42Ellipsisoh, ok
07:39.45Ellipsisyou failed at switching layouts
07:39.47Ellipsis:)
07:40.02Fisker-nope
07:40.03Fisker-it did
07:43.16Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013493&sid=1 best topic evar btw
07:46.31GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: no friday's ep
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07:50.22bigzerolol
07:50.34bigzerowtb guild promotion
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08:34.01RaydenUniso yeah
08:34.05RaydenUnidruid as a runner at 19, meh
08:34.20RaydenUnidruid for entangling rogues so the mage can blast them? YES
08:34.26Diaough
08:34.40Diaowtf is lock/war/pal supposed to do against RMP
08:34.43RaydenUnibut the cost of honor vs marks is stupid
08:34.44Diaowe can't do anything
08:34.54RaydenUniin one day i got enough honor to buy 2 items, but only enough marks to buy 1/2 of one
08:34.59KeiasLose our team points! :(
08:35.06Diaowe gave up like
08:35.08Keiasdamn yous
08:35.11Diao60 points to the same fucking team
08:35.16Diaowe're gonna try it tomorrow
08:35.17Diaolol
08:35.23KeiasI left you guys get me outta 30% for the week
08:35.26Keiasand you lose 30 rating! :(
08:35.40Diaowe played perfectly
08:35.42Diaoevery cooldown
08:35.44Diaoused at the right time
08:35.49Diaoand there was absolutely nothing we can do to win
08:35.50Diaolol
08:36.17Diaowe were at 1898 and then lost to the same team
08:37.56Keias:(
08:38.36RaydenUnihm
08:38.46RaydenUnithere are some lvl 19 twinks that have more health than my 29 rogue
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08:47.56Orionshockwhere is the /target command stored?
08:48.49Diaostored?
08:51.10GuillotineSlashCmdList
08:51.37Guillotineat least if I'm understanding your question correctly
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08:55.26bigzeroOrionshock, are you having problems with it getting blocked?
08:55.44Orionshockya WIM is blocking it
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08:56.12bigzerohm, i don't have wim, but it gets blocked for me anyway sometimes
08:56.28bigzerobeen trying to reproduce the error for so long now
08:56.55bigzerosometimes target option dissapears from the dropdown when right-clicking a name in chat as well
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09:04.12XuerianArrowmaster: You never did tell me what addon did what I wanted :p
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09:14.34ArrowmasterXuerian: wowequip
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09:17.22batrickI seem to have forgotten how to update my addon on the ace svn, I've tried reading through the tutorials and can't figure it out again. Can someone help me with the command to do it from a unix prompt?
09:17.48batricki actually jsut commmited it once, I've never updated it before
09:18.06vhaarrsvn commit <file> -m "Addon: Message"
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09:21.51batrickdon't I need to connect to the wowace svn?
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09:31.20CIA-8BigWigs:
09:31.22CIA-8- ZulAman koKR update
09:32.14OrionshockZone = World Server Down
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09:34.48Chexsumbatrick, it connects with each command
09:35.23Chexsuminfo svn
09:37.38durcyneach transactional command, that is.  checkout/in/update, but properties and adds don't take effect until commit
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09:46.23Ozguli-Arrowmaster could you link, upload or send me that addon you use, if the default ui really works as bad as you mentioned?
09:46.30Ozguli-for looking behind
09:47.23Arrowmastersec ill pastey it
09:47.36Arrowmasterbah its down
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09:47.48CIA-8StatLogicLib:
09:47.49CIA-8- update koKR localization
09:49.53Ozguli-ooo, I forgot to open ports
09:51.03Ozguli-try again now, should work
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09:51.49CIA-8AutoBar :
09:51.51CIA-8- French local file update
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10:04.15batrickI'm missing the admin to my .svn directory, is there an easy way to get that?
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10:11.56Corganis there any accurate database of character stats from 1-70?
10:12.42Arrowmastertheres a page on wowwiki
10:13.47Corganreally?
10:13.50harldephinlol
10:14.00CorganI've looked
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10:24.03CIA-8LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
10:24.03CIA-8- updated koKR localization
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10:34.56CartasHi old chaps!
10:37.00Ozgulihi old wankah
10:37.07Cartas:o
10:37.09Zhinjiolua> blort = false; if ( blort ) then print("Foo") else print("Bar") end
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10:37.17Zhinjioheh
10:37.29CartasAnyone got a minute or two to help with some really amazingly simple HTML? :P
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10:38.01CIA-803scorpio0920 * r55958 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Halazzi.lua): BigWigs: Update zhTW translation.
10:38.16Diaoo:
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10:39.51CIA-8BigWigs:
10:39.51CIA-8- zhCN Karazhan/ShadeOfAran;Magtheridon;SC/Morogrim update.
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10:43.33CIA-803aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55960 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
10:43.35CIA-8TankPoints:
10:43.37CIA-8- Don't attempt to render TankPoints frames until after we've gathered tankpoints data
10:43.39CIA-8- To prevent future errors, check TankPoints tables for completeness before rendering
10:44.40CIA-803aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55961 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
10:44.40CIA-8TankPoints:
10:44.40CIA-8- We don't use the scheduling code anymore. :-(
10:46.30Tekkubfuck me daddy
10:46.36Tekkubgot my damn dragon finally
10:48.29Diaograts
10:48.33Diaofinally got my stormherald today :(
10:48.39Diaoafter like 3 weeks of no vortex drops
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10:57.49Diaohmm
10:57.53Diaoi wonder why there's arena water but not food
10:58.28buuSTROMHEARLDS NEED TO DIAF
10:58.30buuWHO DESIGNS THIS TRASH.
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10:58.46Diaoo_O
10:58.47buuDiao: To stop rogue duels from becoming even more silly than they already are?
10:58.52Diaouh
10:58.54Diaono
10:58.56Diaoi don't even use a 2h against rogues
10:59.00Diaounless they're bad
10:59.07Diaogood rogues i'm forced to sword/shield lol
10:59.17Diaoand
10:59.20Diaofoodwise
10:59.23Diaomages in arena can make food
10:59.32Diaowhich is really cheesy :(
10:59.38Diaocause i had a rogue down to 2%
10:59.46Diaoin a rogue/mage/druid comp
10:59.53Diaomage and druid were dead
11:00.05Diaomy teammates were dead, rogue blinds, stealths and eats
11:00.12Diao:(
11:00.16Diaoif i had food i could've eaten
11:00.18Diaobut all i could do was bandage
11:02.18buuBut really.
11:02.30buuI guess food is more health.
11:02.39buuShadowmelding and drinking is pretty wtf.
11:03.37Diaoyeah
11:03.46Diaorogue/mage/priest is pretty lame already
11:03.53Diaoi'm usually reduced to sitting there the entire fight in def stance w/shield
11:04.00Diaountil our lock kills one of them, if he does
11:04.07buuHeh
11:04.14buuI run priest/lock/rogue
11:04.26Diaoar/prep, deep frost, disc priest
11:04.28Diaoultimate gay combo
11:04.32buuPriests are pretty fucking brutal these days.
11:04.39Diaowe gave up over 100 points to 3 different teams today
11:04.44Diaoall running that same comp
11:04.51Diaoas pally/lock/war
11:05.00buuHeh, we kept getting to like 1830 or something and then throwing away 20 points on terrible teams.
11:05.09Diao2k down to 1853
11:05.14Diaocause of that retarded comp :(
11:05.14buuOwch.
11:05.27Diaoall i can think of is
11:05.27buuWow, I'm suprised you don't lose to more lock teams.
11:05.31CIA-803aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55962 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
11:05.32CIA-8TankPoints:
11:05.33Diaoget a s3 shield/weapon
11:05.34CIA-8- Bump the version number. It's release time.
11:05.34Diaofor extra resil
11:05.37Diaoand enchant the shield with resil
11:05.47Diaoinstead of using KD + sha'tar shield
11:05.55Diaolock teams can't beat us
11:05.57Diaolol
11:06.04Diaothey don't have the burst
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11:06.26buuDiao: Raelly?
11:06.34buuDiao: I make pallies bubble in like, 10 seconds
11:06.38Diaolol
11:06.40buuJust survive that and drop him.
11:06.43Diaoyeah well
11:06.45Diaoi do the same
11:06.47Diaoto opposing healers :)
11:06.55buuHeh, our priest kites warriors for years
11:06.57buuIt makes me happy.
11:07.02Diaoo_O
11:07.09Diaopriests can't kite me usually unless they have bof/sheep
11:07.23buuWell, not exactly kiting
11:07.26buuTanking is a better word.
11:07.29Diaolol
11:07.32Diaowell
11:07.34Diaoi have executioner
11:07.39buuHeh.
11:07.39Diaoand i usually stack up 5 sunders
11:07.42Diaoso priests = 0 armor
11:07.44Diaowhen that happens
11:07.46buuGenerally any time their war gets stuck on our priest we win.
11:07.54Diaoi stick to priests cause of mana burn
11:08.00Diaoif i can prevent them from mana burning our pally
11:08.03Diaowhile our lock drains them
11:08.04Diaowe win
11:08.06buuYeah, but then I control the other dps and my rogue eats the healer.
11:08.18buuIs your lock sl/sl?
11:08.21Diaoyep
11:08.27Diaowell
11:08.30Diaoyou can't really cc a warrior
11:08.31buuYeah, I used to run that.
11:08.33Diaoas a lock
11:08.36buuNaw, I'd cc your lock
11:08.38Diaolol
11:08.39buuAnd blow up the pally
11:08.41Diaoour lock is great at cc
11:08.50buuWell, there's only so much he can do.
11:08.58buuIf I tongue your pally, and the rogue is on him
11:09.05buuHe's gone way faster than a priest with a war on him
11:09.15Diaolol
11:09.21buuAssuming the locks are fucking each other.
11:09.30buuAt least so far as I've seen =/
11:09.31Diaogood pallies kite rogues amazingly though
11:09.36buuWell.
11:09.38Diaothe pally i run with justices rogues
11:09.40buuYeah.
11:09.41Diaoand has speed enchant
11:09.44Diaowith freedom on himself
11:09.48Diaoit's pretty much gg for the rogue
11:09.48Diaolol
11:09.51Diaocan't catch him
11:10.07buuI dunno, we haven't had much of a freedom issue recently.
11:10.15buuProbably because I'm the one doing most of the damage.
11:10.25buuWe were losing to war/war/dri
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11:10.30buuDru, that's some lame shit.
11:12.38Diaoah
11:12.43Diaothat's a lame comp :P
11:12.51Diaoi might try swapping out our lock for a disc priest
11:12.53Diaofor double healer
11:13.05Diaoi think it's the only way to survive the RMP comp
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11:14.07Diaoor maybe if our lock goes FG for the intercept stuns
11:14.19Diaodoesn't seem like felhunter is all that useful
11:14.22TekkubRend Blackhand: Hello? Is anyone there? Why has everyone forgotten about me? I'm so cold, and the dwarves stole all my rare items. Also, I think Gyth is planning to eat me.
11:14.32Diaoo_o
11:15.56buuDiao: I'm a big fan of felguard these days.
11:16.00buuDiao: Maybe not in 2s
11:16.05buuBut it combos way better with a rogue.
11:16.28buuI mean, the only thing I ever spell locked was paladins and an occasional poly.
11:18.17buuAnd locking people in place for the rogue to catch is pretty win.
11:18.30buuBut we are excessively weak vs warriors.
11:18.44PolarinaI demand Omen to be available at WoWInterface!
11:18.46Diaoyea i think fg lock + warr would be amazing
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11:19.25buuDiao: Well, it's way more useful then sl/sl
11:19.30Diaoyeah
11:19.32buuDiao: Because you get shadowburn
11:19.34Diaoneed to get our lock uh
11:19.40buusl/sl is pure tank spec
11:19.52Diaothat trinket off solarian first
11:19.56buuHaha yeah
11:19.58buuI love that thing.
11:19.59Diaobut we haven't been able to down that bitch :(
11:20.03Diaogot her to 35% today
11:20.03buuFailures.
11:20.11Diaoand somebody didn't move during wrath
11:20.11Diaogg
11:20.16buuSuch an easy boss.
11:20.37Diaowell
11:20.44buuHeh, I had a mage spend literally 30 seconds dpsing my felhunter in a bg one game
11:20.45Diaowe've only just started tk really
11:20.53Icerothone of those lovely bosses where slackers can fuck the whole raid
11:20.59buuYeah
11:21.00buuWell.
11:21.13buuPure retard check.
11:21.23Icerothwe've always failed on those :D
11:21.44buuWhups.
11:21.50Diaokinda sad
11:21.58Diaowe downed gruul on our 3rd attempt
11:22.12buuHeh, I Can't even remember that far back.
11:22.14Diaoand so far 7 attempts on solarian and can't get her down
11:22.32buuIt took us a bunch of attempts, but she's pretty resettable.
11:22.46Icerothget your folks install solarionalarm or configure avion to show some bigass warning or something
11:22.52Iceroththat's pretty much the only reason you can fail there
11:22.57Diaowell
11:23.32Diaowe already have them using bigwigs, 2 raid leader/assist with whispers, skull mark from bigwigs, and raid warnings
11:23.33buuGah
11:23.36buuI'm so bored of t5
11:23.52buuDiao: We had a rule that if you wiped the raid twice we would drop you.
11:24.00buuSo 10 different people did it in a row.
11:24.02Diaolol
11:24.12buuYeah
11:24.15buuSo much hater.
11:24.23Funkeh`Diao, tell them to turn flash on
11:25.13Diaofunny thing is today i went as fury instead of prot
11:25.19Diaoin my terrible fury dps gear
11:25.26Diaoand with just WF totem i was 3rd on dps :D
11:25.42Icerothmoar kael wipeage this evening... our weapons phase -> all advisors phase transition has been what's wrecked us
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11:27.04Icerothtoo many things for people to keep track of
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11:27.15buuIceroth: I'm looking forward so much to kael
11:27.24buuAll of those other bosses are so uninteresting.
11:27.50Icerothyeah it's pretty interesting fight
11:27.58buu<PROTECTED>
11:28.04buuTainted core tossing ftw.
11:28.14Iceroththought it's beginning to get to my nerves, always the same slowish p1, then the fun begins
11:28.36buuIceroth: Have to kill advisors or some such?
11:28.45Icerothyeah, and they come 1 by 1
11:28.51Icerotheasy to kill, take just time
11:29.01Icerothand well, there's still the 'tard element there too
11:29.06buuThen weapons?
11:29.07Icerothrogues taking conflag etc
11:29.10Icerothyeap
11:29.25buuYay legendaries.
11:29.54Iceroththey are nice things for everyone else but ferals -.-
11:30.00IcerothS3 mace is better dps than the stupid staff
11:30.05Iceroth*S2
11:30.12buuOh, well, s3 is better than everything in the game.
11:30.19PolarinaWhere do I get a AceSVN account?
11:30.41Orionshockbuu:  ya well this game went to shit when they released arenas
11:30.46Orionshock...
11:31.18buuOrionshock: Haha
11:31.19Orionshock"oh lets give the casuals some welfare epics" ....
11:31.27buuYeah, maybe.
11:31.32Icerothi just wonder what were they thinking with the personal ratings.. take feral druid and arms warrior - which is easier to get to 1850/2000 rating?
11:31.38buuI dunno, it's nice to know that I won't automatically lose to people in t6
11:31.47Orionshock" oo ooo , lets totaly FUCK the ilvl equation and just fk the game over"
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11:32.00Orionshockgreat idea!
11:32.16Orionshockbuu you should automaticly loose to ppl in t6
11:32.24buuLOOSE THE PEOPLE IN T6?
11:32.27buuWHAT IF WE TIGHTEN THEM?
11:32.39Orionshockthey have t6 and the skill to kick your ass if your also not in t6
11:32.44buuHaha
11:32.49buuWinning through items = skill
11:32.51buuDuh.
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11:33.15Orionshockyou don't get t6 by being a dumbass.... tho im sure many here would like to debate that
11:33.18buuHAHAHA
11:33.31buuYeah, that's hard to argue.
11:33.43buuBut really, most of the arena items are pure pvp
11:33.44Diaowell
11:33.46buuJusit the weapons.
11:33.49Diaoyou don't have to necessarily know how to play pvp
11:33.50Diaoto pve
11:34.24buuAnd honestly, despite the vitrole about welfare epix, if you actull look at it, if you have some terrible 1500 rating
11:34.29buuYou get like 400 points a week.
11:34.41buuIT's like 10 weeks for a weapon.
11:34.47Diaoif you're going for a 2h
11:34.50buuYeah.
11:34.55Wogroipl<--example of what Diao said
11:35.00buuI think the rating was a good change though.
11:35.01Orionshockit takes skill and knowlage about the game to pve, pvp is 50% luck and the other half is slight of hand timming.
11:35.04WogroiplI can't pvp
11:35.07buuOrionshock: HAHAHAHAH
11:35.14buuOrionshock: PVE is pure time spent.
11:35.20Diaowell
11:35.24buuPVP requires knowledge, skill, reflexes, teamwork.
11:35.27Diaotime spent + not being a retard
11:35.30buu( #duh )
11:35.32OrionshockPvE is sequnce and execution
11:35.58Diaolol
11:36.05buuI mean, honestly. I wouldn't say pve is brainless, but can you honestly say there's a boss that has taken longer than 5 minutes to learn?
11:36.18Orionshocklearn or kill?
11:36.19Diaodepends what you mean by "learn"
11:36.21Orionshocknot the same
11:36.25buuLearn.
11:36.35Orionshockmost bosses you understand with in about 2 mins if not less
11:36.41buuYeah.
11:36.43Orionshockbut might take weeks before it's a kill
11:36.56Orionshockpvp is brainless BS
11:37.00buuHAHAH.
11:37.04Diaothe actual execution may be harder than understanding it
11:37.08Diaoand pvp is nowhere near brainless
11:37.11Orionshockthey are not good players expt for pvp, and who the fk respects pvp'ers?
11:37.11Diaomaybe low level pvp
11:37.24Orionshockoo im "Arena Master S3"
11:37.26buuPVe is only hard because the probablity of retards approaches 1 as the number of players rises.
11:37.37Diaotell that to the illidan killing players who are also gladiators
11:37.38Orionshockand im going to loose my title in 4 weeks because the season is going to end :(
11:37.48buuHa ha.
11:38.11buuHonestly, despite all of the rock paper scissors and the counter comps, arenas take way more individual skill.
11:38.21Orionshockonly reason BT raiders pvp is to fill time for the remainder of the week after they shanked illidan
11:38.27buuI mean, how many boss fights do you lose where youthink "gee, if I only I had played a little better we would have won"
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11:38.39Diaoour 2nd attempt on gruul!
11:38.42Orionshockbuu, every one we loose too
11:38.44Diaowe asked for a battlerez on a lock
11:38.45buuOrionshock: How odd.
11:38.46Orionshock...
11:38.49Diaodruids took 30 sec to brez him
11:38.51Diaowe wiped at 1
11:38.52Diao1%
11:38.54buuI never think that!
11:38.55Diaothat lock would've been 1% :D
11:39.00Diaoso i blame the druids
11:39.01Diaofor being slow
11:39.02buuDiao: Yeah, that's a rough one
11:39.07buuBut you aren't the druid.
11:39.12Diaotrue
11:39.14Orionshocki am a druid actualy
11:39.18Orionshock:P
11:39.18buuI mean, there's nothing you could have done.
11:39.22Diaobut our druids should've thought that!
11:39.30Diaoif only i had listened to the RL and rezzed immediately!
11:39.31buuI dunno. Raids just feel too impersonal.
11:39.42Orionshockbuu u a new school raider?
11:39.48buuHeh, new school?
11:39.50Orionshockknow joined in TBC...
11:39.54buuI'm pretty sure that doesn't work.
11:39.58Orionshocknever been to MC or know what BWL means?
11:40.21Icerothfinkle's lava dredger <3
11:40.28Icerothor how was it spelled
11:40.34buuHaha
11:40.35Tornhoofi lubed it
11:40.36Icerothsuch an awesome thing to have at the time
11:40.43Orionshock40 man raid groups are impersonal, 10man raids, you know EXACTLY WHO fucked it
11:40.49buuWell, 10 mans, yeah
11:40.51buubut 25 mans
11:40.58Orionshockand it's usualy really really obvious what fked it and why
11:41.00Tornhoofi always know who fucked it
11:41.00WogroiplI don't think I ever got Finkle's
11:41.03Tekkubif 25's are like 20's were, I'll love em
11:41.07Diao25 mans you know who fucked it too
11:41.10Tornhoofi mean there only like 5 candidates to chose from
11:41.15Diaowell
11:41.16buuDiao: Perhaps, but there's fuck all I Can do about it.
11:41.17Diaoif you're like me
11:41.26Diaowell
11:41.28Diaobeing the GM and RL
11:41.30buuI dunno. KILLING PEOPLE IZ FUN.
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11:41.36Diaothere's plenty i can do
11:41.39Diaowhen people fuck up
11:41.40Diao:D
11:41.43buuDiao: Heh.
11:41.53buuDiao: I dunno, I rarely see it as one person's fault.
11:41.57Icerothour raid group is too casual :/
11:42.01Diaowell
11:42.02Orionshock40man raids you could float as the dumbass in the back doing 30th in dmg and still get some epics
11:42.04Diaotbh i'm too nice lol
11:42.04buuI mean, like, "Healers you fucking suck" but it's rarely just one healer.
11:42.13Diaoi rarely punish people for messing up
11:42.15Icerothppl can fuck the simplest job countless times and still keep doing it
11:42.18Orionshockyou'd eventualy get better ; that and not every boss was a 1-Fuck up wipe
11:42.46Orionshocklike bear boss in ZA... 1 fuck up, wipe....
11:42.48SroshDoes someone know a site where I can lookup how many teams are eligible for the different titles awarded at the end of the season?
11:42.49Orionshock-.-
11:42.57buuOrionshock: Bah. You could 5 man that thing.
11:43.02Diaohttp://arenajunkies.com/calculator
11:43.12OrionshockSrosh: it's all background calculations done by blizard that we can only guess at.
11:43.36SroshYou can do estimated guesses based upon the percentages. Thanks, Diao.
11:43.43Diaonp
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11:44.28Icerothand no i'm not saying you should be banned from the game for doing something stupid once (or even twice) but take our mages for example, showing up in fire spec for al'ar -.-
11:44.40buuIceroth: That's.. bad.
11:44.43WogroiplPkekyo|: ping?
11:45.08Icerothor some "dps" constantly being behind bear tanks in dps is another thing...
11:46.26Icerothand yet we are farming vashj now and working on kael
11:46.41Icerothmakes me wonder where we could be if only the leader would show to door for 'tards
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11:50.46buuIceroth: Probably exactly where you re now.
11:55.33Pkekyo|Wogroipl: plonk?
11:56.42Pkekyo|Wogroipl: 'sup?
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12:03.27FtH|DaemonaSrosh guesses are estimates, i assume you wanted to say educated guesses based on simple assumptions that appear logically ;)
12:03.57SroshEh, yeah.
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12:05.06AudrinaGood Morning
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12:10.15AudrinaAnyway to get SWS data in Recount?
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12:11.37CIA-803aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55966 10TankPoints/ (3 files):
12:11.39CIA-8TankPoints:
12:11.41CIA-8- Commafy tooltip numbers
12:11.43CIA-8- Add a note to the bottom of the EHB explanation mentioning how to turn on the tooltip
12:13.24WogroiplPkekyo| remember you helped me with my PC being slow ans stuff?
12:13.56Wogroiplafter a while it would only run in 640x480, and 4bit color mode :(
12:14.55Xinhuan4-bit color, 16 total? lol
12:15.02Wogroiplso I did a fresh install of Windows, and installed the latest beta drivers for my gfx card, all's well again
12:15.21Wogroiplyeah, doesn't really look good on a 22 inch tft
12:15.26Xinhuanhaha
12:16.10WogroiplI guess I had too much crap on my PC, no more textures missing in games either
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12:20.34Orionshockis there any way , other than keeping a table of it, to determin if a given craftable is a vendor trained or recipe trained?
12:21.34Pkekyo|Wogroipl: then I'd suggest your vram being toast :<
12:22.21Diaohm
12:22.22WogroiplI was just saying it's all ok now
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12:22.29Diaoany way to enable track humanoids right as i enter cat with a macro?
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12:22.41Pkekyo|Wogroipl: it is?
12:22.43Pkekyo|ah
12:22.45Wogroiplaye
12:22.50XinhuanOrionshock: keep a manual table of it, datamined from wowhead or thottbot
12:22.57Wogroiplcould even play the crysis demo
12:22.59Pkekyo|I'm kinda busy, hard to keep track x)
12:23.05Wogroiplno worries
12:23.23Pkekyo|good thing it was only software issues :)
12:23.43Wogroiplaye, very glad it was
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12:24.39harldephinis there someone available to upload a file for me?
12:24.40Pkekyo|saved you some greenback, I'd imagine
12:25.21Wogroipla new gfx card would cost me around 90 euros, and it's not a real upgrade
12:25.37Wogroipl(still have AGP ><)
12:26.23sbget dell xpc! :p
12:26.36sberr XPS
12:28.17Pkekyo|agp? go /wrist plx
12:28.31Wogroiplactually I could build a high end gaming PC for around 1050 euro, whithout monitor and keayboard/mouse
12:28.35harldephini've done a quick translation of a few things in nQuestLog's german localization's file. maybe someone wants to have it.
12:28.43Matrix110buying a dell PC (if you arent a big company) is like throwing money out of the window
12:29.01sbMatrix110: mhh - i dont think so...
12:29.54Matrix110well if they want ~500euros for building a PC i would say so:P
12:30.17sbits more like 100-150 eur
12:30.45Matrix110not for the better models
12:30.58Matrix110the low end models ok but the better models are totally overpriced
12:31.08harldephindell tends to lock the use of drivers to their specific hardware environment, so you'd be kind of dependent on them with this, in case they don't release new drivers when there's an issue of some kind.
12:31.32harldephinat least with their older notebooks that is
12:31.32PolarinaHP Blackbird 0002
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12:31.43harldephindunno about other machines
12:31.58Wogroiplbesides the lower cost of building my own PC, I also like to do it :)
12:32.09harldephin:p
12:32.32Diaobuilding your own pc is win because you get exactly what you want :)
12:33.31Pkekyo|Dell is fucking rubbish
12:33.35Diaohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121014151&sid=1 <- hahahaha
12:33.35harldephinand in most situations there's just you to blame if anything  goes wrong
12:33.57harldephin(that's a positive thing to me)
12:34.12Diaothis thread is fucking awesome
12:35.33CIA-803aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55968 10TankPoints/:
12:35.33CIA-8TankPoints:
12:35.33CIA-8- Update externals for StatFrameLib's requirement (AceHook)
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12:38.30CIA-8037destiny * r55969 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: koKR Update
12:39.12Mech0zIs the atlasloot maker hanging out inhere?
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12:39.36Mech0zBecause the honor point prices on S1 are pretty wrong
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12:43.34Fisker-yay
12:43.47Fisker-i has 100MiB memory usage
12:44.43Elkano~poke Fisker-
12:44.44purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker-, pokes Fisker- repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
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12:47.04CIA-803scorpio0920 * r55970 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.tw.lua:
12:47.04CIA-8AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
12:47.05CIA-8- Update Heroic Mode Token Rewards for zhTW translation.
12:48.16Fisker-no u Elkano
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12:49.24charonmorning
12:49.45Fisker-oh u nevcairiel
12:49.47Fisker-roll frame?
12:49.48Fisker-srsly?
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13:12.22CIA-803aliset * r55971 10TankPoints/ (10 files): (log message trimmed)
13:12.24CIA-8TankPoints:
13:12.26CIA-8- Merge in Aliset's http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/TankPoints/aliset_effective_health branch
13:12.28CIA-8- Please report any new bugs in this code to tankpoints@fake.domain.name
13:12.30CIA-8-
13:12.32CIA-8- TankPoints now calculates EffectiveHealth for all classes
13:12.36CIA-8- TankPoints now calculates EffectiveHealth (with Block) for warriors
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13:21.04CIA-803kemayo * r55972 10BankStack/sort.lua: BankStack: Fix junk sorting.
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13:25.14Aemuthhi i was setting up some art in wow using eepanels2 but i notices the given with in the panels don't match my screen resolution, anyone know how to match them?
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13:30.38CIA-803zhinjio * r55973 10/branches/SKG/ (SKG.toc SKG_Comm.lua SKG_Globals.lua embeds.xml):
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13:38.55CIA-8037destiny * r55974 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: Bartender3: updated koKR localization
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13:42.43IceGuest_7_requesting assistance with creating a branch of addon - following wiki guide but keep getting errors can anyone help pls
13:43.57AudrinaAemuth - Do you mean the background?
13:44.12IceGuest_7_background?
13:44.36IceGuest_7_hmmm why am I guest?? - bah nothing but problems today
13:44.52grzesieq_anyone remembers the name of the 10 SR enchant from argent dawn?
13:45.27AudrinaIceGuest_7_ - Sorry I was talking to Aemuth
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13:50.55AemuthAudrina: sorry was afk
13:51.37AemuthAudrina: i meant when i make a panel with the size of my screen res so width=1680 it will be wider than my UI
13:51.50Aemuthbut i fixed it now by tweaking the frame width
13:52.08Aemuthit isn't that acurate though
13:54.39AudrinaAemuth - You can drag the panel to the size that looks right to you.
13:55.45Aemuthyeh but that is not precize when you have texture in it which need to have a particular size
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13:58.43Periclestrying to convert addon to use various libraries - stuck trying to workout what paths in the SVN the externals are at - cannot find a list of standard URL paths for externals on the wiki - how do I find this info?
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14:00.22Fisker-i will make sex to you if my  shield drops
14:02.36Periclesis - libs/AceConsole-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 - a valid line to add to an svn:externals property?
14:03.33Elkanotheoreticaly, I think yes, but you should either make both sac Locale or Console
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14:03.52Periclessorry I have no idea of why you just said
14:04.00Pericleswhat*
14:04.15Periclessac Locale or Console?
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14:05.09Elkanowell... which lib do you want to set as external? AceLocale or AceConsole?
14:05.21Periclesah mistype my mistake
14:05.25Periclesyes I see
14:05.29Periclessoz
14:05.41Periclesso libs/AceConsole-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0 is correct
14:07.00ElkanoI think so, yes
14:07.34Periclesany idea then what the similar path would be for FuBarPlugins? Is there a webpage on the wiki that lists such things?
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14:13.43sag_ich_nichtWTB Addon that shows Energy/Manacost of Abilities on the Actionbuttons(Using BT3)
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14:25.57CIA-803silmano * r55975 10SellOMatic/ (SellOMatic.lua SellOMatic.toc):
14:25.59CIA-8SellOMatic: (0.9)
14:26.01CIA-8- Added some security to avoid problems.
14:26.03CIA-8- Addon can now work with or without sell list (default).
14:26.42Fisker-can you disable threat comm?
14:30.22Fisker-Antiar1 you must know that
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14:31.55Xinhuanyes you logout, and uncheck the checkbox that loads Threat-1.0
14:32.15sylvanaar_workanyone here experienced in network design?
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14:33.51Elkanonot that much, why do you ask?
14:35.01nevcairieldepends what kind of network
14:35.13sylvanaar_workim racking my brain trying to figure out how to run 2 networks behind one firewall, and have them all talk to each other
14:35.37Elkanosubnet masks?
14:35.39nevcairielmake the firewall route stuff from network 1 to 2
14:35.40sylvanaar_work2 class C's
14:36.10sylvanaar_workif the firewall routes between the 2, then it cant NAT properly
14:36.18Elkanowell, set up a bridge and tell each pc to use the bridge to contact the other network
14:36.37Elkanoor use a common gateway as bridge set up to route to the individual subnets
14:36.45sylvanaar_workyeah - i installed a router to route between the 2, and set it as the gateway
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14:37.37CIA-803pericles * r55976 10FuBar_IOPFu/ (. FuBar_IOPFu.toc InventoryOnParFu.lua embeds.xml):
14:37.41CIA-8FuBar_IOPFu:
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14:37.45Elkanowell then your router most likely has three interfaces. now tell it which interface belongs to which IP range
14:37.45CIA-8Fixed tooltip width problem. Now displays a proper wide display rather than wrapping text in a tall narrow display.
14:37.48CIA-8Added Ace Libraries as embedded and used Ace externals in properties.
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14:38.12sag_ich_nichtWTB Addon that shows Energy/Manacost of Abilities on the Actionbuttons(Using BT3)
14:38.16sag_ich_nicht(or option in BT3)
14:38.35LukianThat's not there? I know damage per mana is
14:38.38sylvanaar_workone of the networks can access the internet (via the firewall) and one cant
14:38.52sag_ich_nichtLukian: i have damage per mana from drdamage
14:39.03sag_ich_nichtbut i want the energycost displayed
14:39.07Lukianoh right, that's what I was referring to
14:39.11sag_ich_nichtrolled a rogue, and i think that would help me lern2play
14:39.21Gagorian-Well, it's possible to add I guess
14:39.27sylvanaar_workthat is the problem - i should double check my work to make sure the gateways are all right
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14:39.29Lukianyeah, I would LOVE mana/energy cost  on the buttons along with the dr.damage data
14:39.38Periclesyou should be able to have the internal router present the IP from the secondary network as a fixed IP on the primary network
14:39.53Periclesthen the firewall sees it as a request from that fixed IP
14:40.27sag_ich_nichtGagorian-: <32u if you do add that, best put it top or better let us choose between corners and top/left/bottom/right
14:41.24sag_ich_nicht(shown additionally to the damage :P)
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14:42.49sag_ich_nichtLukian: we forgot rage :X
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14:43.03Lukianlet's just call it power or mana :p
14:43.08Lukian(the API calls it mana) :D
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14:43.27sylvanaar_workyeah, at the moment its just routing A<->B.....i have the gateway for A's host set to the routers address on A, and B's hosts set to the routers address on B
14:43.40sag_ich_nicht:X
14:43.46sag_ich_nichtwhat
14:43.49sag_ich_nichtrouting problems
14:44.11sylvanaar_workElkano: #wau
14:44.21sag_ich_nichtgimme information, that's what i work with :X
14:44.38CIA-803pericles * r55977 10MinimapCoords/ (. MinimapCoords.lua MinimapCoords.toc MinimapCoords.xml):
14:44.40CIA-8MinimapCoords:
14:44.42CIA-8- Basic coords to 1 decimal place displayed on minimap.
14:44.44CIA-8Created due to switching to Cartographer from Metamap due to WowAceUpdater and Cartographer not having this function.
14:44.46neeneeHm. Does anyone know of an addon like SqueakyWheel, but which is still functional?
14:46.36manyhrm. how does one configure fubar when it doesnt display plugins and the preferences allow does allow clicking the pulldown box but doesnt take selection inside the pulldown?
14:47.27sag_ich_nichtgeeez... so how many interfaces does the firewall have, is it a normal machine running pf or an cisco PIX, what routers do you use, how many interfaces, how are they interconnected(null model serial connection or ethernet?)?
14:47.45CIA-803pericles * r55978 10MinimapCoords/:
14:47.45CIA-8MinimapCoords:
14:47.45CIA-8-Initial Commit on setting properties.
14:48.48sag_ich_nicht(best, gimme a diagram :P)
14:48.54Lukianmany, don't suppose /fubar or such works? :)
14:48.54sylvanaar_worksag_ich_nicht its not a cisco pix - the firewall has 2 interfaces
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14:49.28manymaybe fubar/fubar2 is what breaks on me.
14:49.29manymh
14:50.03sylvanaar_workthere are 2 internal nets 192.168.100.0/24, 192.168.200/24, and the router has an address on each. The firewall has an address on 100
14:50.58sag_ich_nichtrouter has 3 interfaces?
14:51.32sylvanaar_workyes, its a wireless router with 2 radios, 2 LAN interfaces and 1 WAN interface
14:51.32manyhah. thanks
14:51.49manyfubar2\install.bat was missing *sighÜ :)
14:52.42Polarinasylvanaar_work: 10.0.0.0/8, 127.0.0.0/8 and 192.0.0.0/8
14:52.59manyPolarina: scusi?
14:53.05Polarinamany: ?
14:53.11manywhats 192/8??
14:53.25sag_ich_nichtCIDR donation for an IP range
14:53.28sag_ich_nichterm
14:53.32sag_ich_nicht-donation +notation
14:53.33sag_ich_nichtfu :X
14:53.38manysag_ich_nicht: oh. really.
14:53.43sag_ich_nichtyaeah. really.
14:53.46Polarinamany: Ya'rly.
14:53.51manyif youre talking about rfc1918 its actually 192.168/16
14:53.59Polarinamany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
14:54.04manyrotfl
14:54.21manyPolarina: speak bgp, SYN?!
14:54.29Polarinamany: ?
14:54.32sag_ich_nichtoooh wait i know what your getting at
14:54.37sag_ich_nichtwell in that case
14:55.00sylvanaar_workmy numbers were right class A/8 class B/16, class C/24
14:55.04many10/8, 172.16/12, 192.168/16
14:55.11sag_ich_nichtcorrect, now
14:55.24sag_ich_nichtcan we stop argueing about RFCs
14:55.27sag_ich_nichtand help sylvanaar_work?
14:55.33many169.254./16 or something. but i blindly ignore zeroconf mostly. :>
14:56.19manyif i knew what sylvanaar_work is doing i might. :>
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14:56.26sag_ich_nichtmany
14:56.33manygiven that forwarding is on and NAT is not required. :>
14:57.16manyif its a dumb box, it may not allow two subnets on its own LAN ports, becuase they are some dumb internal switch only.
14:57.18sag_ich_nichtWAN to firewall to router to 2 internal networks, NAT supposedly required, routing between internal networks should work :X
14:57.31sag_ich_nichtmany: my guess as well
14:58.04manyi guess nat is required, this may be the mistake as well incase the subnets can talk to each other
15:00.08sag_ich_nichtmeh
15:00.11sylvanaar_workyes the routing between the networks does work
15:00.15sag_ich_nichtmany you help him, i have a raid to attend
15:00.17sag_ich_nicht:X
15:00.31manysylvanaar_work: then you probably forgot to add nat to the B subnet
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15:01.40sylvanaar_workyeah, im just confused as to where i need to add it
15:02.19manywhat kind of device is it? lancom?
15:02.24sylvanaar_worksymbol
15:02.30sylvanaar_workmotorola
15:02.30manyoO
15:04.12sylvanaar_worki cant quite figure out how to tell it to NAT all traffic on B to A which is not destined for A
15:05.53dreamssgood movie?
15:09.22CIA-803Tristan * r55979 10Enhancer/ (24 files in 15 dirs):
15:09.22CIA-8Enhancer:
15:09.22CIA-8- AEP uses 2 decimal digits instead of just one
15:09.22CIA-8- WeaponAEP added (base on Rob's work at elitistjerks forums)
15:09.22CIA-8- Purge Module: Displays on screen what you purged
15:09.24CIA-8- WShield Module: A temporary module for the 1 min Water Shield (A frame will show in combat when you have no shield to remind you that you should turn it on)
15:09.27CIA-8- .toc files updated
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15:16.35CIA-803ananhaid * r55980 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua:
15:16.37CIA-8BigWigs:
15:16.39CIA-8- Kaelthas Phoenix Rebirth yell zhCN update.
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15:19.24harldephinlol
15:19.32harldephinoops. wrong channel.
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15:20.43dreamsssylvanaar_work, the subnet that cant access the internet, what gateway are they using?
15:21.25sylvanaar_workthe address of the router on the opposite network
15:21.47dreamsscan they reach it fine?
15:22.08sylvanaar_workill double check'
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15:22.59many?
15:23.12manyyou cant use the "opposite network ip" as gateway
15:23.21manyyou need one of your local subnet
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15:24.24sylvanaar_workhmm...i can reach it
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15:25.56sylvanaar_workthe router makes any host on net A/B addressable from the opposite net
15:27.03manyYes.
15:27.20manyyou add a device route on the local subnet and a host route via the gateway.
15:27.51manysince the config is somewhat star-like, you probably need a default route only.
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15:29.11sylvanaar_workthe default gateway at the router is set to the firewall
15:30.18dreamsshttp://www.physics.umd.edu/pnce/pcs-docs/Glue/linux-route-hack.html
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15:32.28JCinDELUA question: When using string.find how can I grab all of the captures into a table?
15:32.29krkaJCinDE: Lua is not an acronym.
15:32.51JCinDEkrka should be named nitpickerbot
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15:33.53JCinDEam I disconnecting again?
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15:34.13[AR]Camcianyone know why EQcompare doesnt work?
15:34.16sylvanaar_workok - im going to try moving my B network to the WAN connector so I can NAT it
15:34.19[AR]Camcisays its missing compatible or something
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15:37.20charonwhat's the quit message, reset? timeout?
15:37.43nevcairielremote closed connection
15:38.40JCinDEsame happens to me a lot
15:39.17charonstrange... konversation claims there was a "no error"
15:39.30CIA-803mikma * r55981 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. embeds.xml): SimpleCombatLog: There you go rophy, I fixed some externals for you
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15:40.23JCinDESome cursory googling suggests it might be a router or firewall that likes to close connections it this are idle.
15:40.41JCinDE"it thinks are idle" I meant
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15:43.14JCinDEvValues = {};
15:43.18JCinDEer oops sorry
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15:50.55CIA-803scorpio0920 * r55982 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.en.lua burningcrusade.tw.lua):
15:50.57CIA-8AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
15:50.59CIA-8-Added item for ZA timed chest.
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15:57.34Paradoxhey guys, how can I make /cast Spirit Lance macro cast it on my target mouseover?
15:57.52sb./cast [target=mouseover] Spirit Lance?
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15:58.25Paradoxthanks
15:58.46Paradoxthat will definetly work?
15:58.52Paradoxdon't wanna get ghost and find it doesn't D:
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16:03.36[Ammo]paradox wont' work
16:03.43[Ammo]you have to use the pet actions
16:05.29Nomi2k
16:05.29Nomi2kI seek a new version of TinyTip or a similar addon
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16:05.52Nomi2khi
16:06.04LukianNomi2k, cowtip
16:06.33Elkanoiirc tinytip is still in development, but now hosted on google
16:07.26Nomi2kcowtip
16:07.29Nomi2k?
16:07.32Funkeh`how much agil = attack power for rogue
16:07.49Funkeh`and strength
16:08.04[Ammo]I thought 1agi and 2 str
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16:08.52Funkeh`k ty
16:09.51CIA-803ag 07Ace3 * r55983 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/xprepbar/xprepbar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fixed xprepbar events not getting registered
16:09.52sedatedChipmunkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Attributes says 1 and 1
16:11.48[AR]Camcihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=192
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16:33.13fridgidwhats a good example mod with sharedmedia 2.0 integration?
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16:42.16CIA-803scorpio0920 * r55984 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua:
16:42.17CIA-8AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
16:42.17CIA-8-Update zhTW translation.
16:46.16kaidenfridgid, Pitbull
16:46.26fridgidty
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17:07.21fridgidwhats pcall mean? protected call?
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17:19.30dylanmfridgid: Yeah.
17:20.05fridgiddylanm, can i get an idiots explaination? its for catching errors or something?
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17:21.03dylanmYeah, that's pretty much it.
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17:21.28dylanmhttp://www.lua.org/pil/8.4.html
17:22.12dylanmActually, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_pcall gives more detail.
17:22.35fridgiddoes it actually run the function? or does it just parse it for errors i guess
17:22.46fridgidlike if the function adds numbers to varaibles or increments
17:22.56dylanmNo, it runs it and spits back the error if there is one.
17:23.20fridgidaight cool, ty
17:23.56CIA-803ammo 07Beta * r55985 10Ace3/ (AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua docs/AceAddon-3.0.txt): AceAddon-3.0: add :IsEnabled() to addon object API
17:24.15dylanmI remember clad using it once... I don't think lua has a try/fail/finally thing so it's probably your best bet for that sort of thing.
17:26.28fridgidnah i don't think i need it, i just saw it in a few things and i wasn't sure its exact purpose
17:28.39JoshBorkefridgid: pcall catches errors so program flow can continue
17:28.58fridgidyeah that what it looks like
17:29.01dylanmDongle has it a lot...
17:29.12dylanmWell, four times or so.
17:29.15fridgidits in a shared media integration file, during the call to check for the instance
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17:44.11xenohi, quick question about EveryQuest... is it possible to get it to scan completed quests? kinda useless when it has all quests in the game marked as not done, and I have to mark the ones I've done manually...
17:44.35xenothen again, maybe it's intended as help for fresh characters...
17:45.50CIA-803arith * r55987 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.tw.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua):
17:45.50CIA-8AtlasLoot:
17:45.50CIA-8- zhtw update
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18:05.40Hjaltexeno, how should Everyquest know what quests you have done?
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18:10.19PolarinaWhat is EveryQuest?
18:13.03neeneeSomething which tracks which quests you have completed from the moment you install it.
18:13.35neeneeAnd Hjalte, the answer to xenos question is 'No, it is not possible'.
18:13.53Hjalteneenee, that's why I asked him ;)
18:14.03Polarinaneenee: Does it display quest text too?
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18:20.54neeneePolarina: I do not know
18:21.41CIA-803ag 07Ace3 * r55988 10ag_UnitFrames/ (17 files in 16 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Uses AceAddon for modules instead of funny code
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18:29.19CIA-803zuno * r55989 10UnitActionBars2/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
18:29.23CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
18:29.25CIA-8- Current stance not recognized on login/reloadui.
18:29.27CIA-8- Unit group taken from frame instead of from framegroup (if defined by framegroup and unit unknown).
18:29.29CIA-8- Initial support for BunchOfBars (though not quite working yet).
18:33.10Shirikag`: Best commit message ever
18:33.20Shirik"Uses <x> for modules instead of funny code"
18:34.23|Stan|But I like funny code :(
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18:40.12CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
18:40.13CIA-8- Another minor fix for proper unitgroup association.
18:40.15CIA-8- Enable BunchOfButtons support as embedded module.
18:44.52AudrinaAnyone know how to recolor the data in the realtime graphs on Recount?
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19:08.49Pkekyo|hmm....you should take less fall damage when riding a kodo...
19:08.49Pkekyo|I'd imagine landing on 1k punds of beef after falling off a cliff, rather than landing flat on the rocks, no?
19:09.01Pkekyo|s/punds/pounds/
19:09.35OzguliI'd imagine the kodo would die
19:09.48Ozguliand if you for some reason got under it...
19:10.02Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
19:10.13Ozgulio.O
19:10.16Pkekyo|Ozguli: haven't you heard? kodos have nine lives and always land on their feet!
19:10.31Ozgulithat's nine jumps before you got to buy a new one
19:10.36DreadWingKnightto heck with that
19:10.39DreadWingKnightrawrbomb ftw
19:10.45Pkekyo|nah, that's nine jumps before you pop the ducttape
19:10.58Ozgulignomish mounts are fixed with that
19:10.58Pkekyo|after a ducttape session it should be fit for ATLEAST 18 more jumps
19:11.15Pkekyo|and if you reinforce the kodo with ducttape BEFORE the first jump...it'd live for ever!
19:11.29Ozgulibtw
19:11.53Ozguliany of you noticed that the elven mounts have nails visible?
19:11.55Pkekyo|what the hell is a 'body landscape'?
19:11.56Ozguliunlike the normal tigers
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19:12.21CIA-803perunaion * r55991 10ForceEnchant/ForceEnchant.toc:
19:12.21CIA-8ForceEnchant:
19:12.21CIA-8- Fixed a bug reported by betbest1, the structure of the libs dir changed when I converted the addon to svn.
19:12.26Pkekyo|they're undercover nelf druids with a fetish
19:12.36masanbolfurries?
19:12.50Pkekyo|no comment
19:12.57masanbolall druids are furries, you know
19:13.11Ozgulibut they'd break!
19:13.26Pkekyo|Ozguli: only if a tauren somehow managed to get exalted with darnassus :D
19:13.29Ozgulior at least get really short, imagine riding trought kalimdor
19:13.48Ozgulignome with the orb of deception?
19:14.02Ozgulithere was one for 999g on ah today, didn't feel like buying
19:14.07Pkekyo|it's all a deception, in truth it's a fairy from Zelda
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19:14.31Ozgulihmmh=
19:14.33Pkekyo|gnomes are naught but annoying
19:14.34Ozguli?*
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19:25.42AudrinaAnyone know how to recolor the data in the realtime graphs on Recount?
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19:31.32PolarinaWho here administrates the AceSVN?
19:31.59[Ammo]Kaelten
19:32.02dylanmUh well Kaelten is probably the main dude.
19:32.12PolarinaKaelten: Ping?
19:32.32dylanmNot sure if anyone else can create accounts for you on there.
19:33.21Kaeltenpong?
19:34.02PolarinaKaelten: I sent a e-mail requesting for SVN account. How come I still haven't got a response yet?
19:34.19Kaeltenbecause I haven't processed any since wend
19:34.48PolarinaWend?
19:35.07JoshBorkehe obviously means wednesday
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19:35.23PolarinaJoshBorke: Ok.
19:35.40Kaeltenlol ya sorry
19:35.47KaeltenI spent all day yesterday writing
19:36.00Kaeltenthurs fri was similar + holiday + migrain
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19:37.24KaeltenI'll be processing the rest later today, or at the latest tommorrow
19:37.53Ozgulihttp://ftw.generation.no/img/f875495d.jpg
19:38.07PolarinaKaelten: Mine was actually more of a question..
19:38.10Ozgulishamans are newbs anyway...
19:38.18PolarinaKaelten: If you could take a look at it, it would be greatly appreciated.
19:38.39OzguliI won an enhancement shaman 4 times in a row (world pvp) on my spriest ...
19:38.43Kaeltensup?
19:41.51CIA-803scorpio0920 * r55992 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-zhTW.lua: TankPoints: Update zhTW translation.
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19:44.26fridgidanybody here know who setup the cia.vc for this channel?
19:53.50Ozguligah... someone link me pve hemo build, I want to try it out
19:56.46aestilJoshBorke: did i show you my new wand?
19:56.51JoshBorkeaestil: nope
19:56.56JoshBorkeaestil: did i tell you i respecced?
19:57.30aestilholy?
19:57.45JoshBorkeyea, just to push guild buttons
19:57.49JoshBorkeand i was tired of being #1 dps
19:58.13aestil#1 on what encounter?
19:58.19JoshBorkemost of them
19:58.22aestilthats sad.
19:58.32aestilmages / rogues should be higher for sure.
19:58.33JoshBorkei had the most spelldamage in the guild
19:58.40aestilthen you're a dick for respecing :)
19:58.52JoshBorkeaestil: i know, i'll probably respec on tuesday
19:58.59Jaxon_Ozguli: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Deathwing&n=Maniac
20:00.29JaxonStill can't change the distance at which the nameplates/healthbars get drawn, right?
20:07.48dylanmJaxon: Don't believe so.
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20:10.06GnarfozJaxon: not handled by the UI, so, no
20:10.30GnarfozOzguli: check out
20:10.37Gnarfoz!c us cenarion circle adrine
20:10.40Ozgulireading forums
20:10.41ThraeBotGnarfoz: Adrine, Level 70 Human Rogue (11/26/24). 9964 HP; 3556 Armour; 1593 AP; 383.100 Melee DPS; 26.70% melee crit; 92 melee hit; 27.21% dodge; 221 resilience;[[ TBR: 1129 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytql5j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3686dy ][ Updated: Sun Nov 25 11:17:27 2007 EST ]]
20:10.48Gnarfozhe should be be trispec hemo
20:10.49Ozguliclosing tabs as I go
20:11.19Gnarfozalthough he has some pvp filler stuff
20:11.48JoshBorkeaestil: what's this new wand?
20:12.00JoshBorkeaestil: my plan is to pwn the healing at VR and gruul and then go back to shadow
20:13.43|Stan|~seen ckknight
20:13.46purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 22h 26m 6s ago, saying: 'alright, gtg'.
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20:17.49Ozgulihttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhhEzbVt000oZxMeoMhRox
20:17.51Pkekyo|the ZA timed event...do you have to kill the boss before 20min or just engage him?=
20:17.51CIA-803zuno * r55993 10UnitActionBars2/LayoutPyramid/uabLayout_Pyramid.lua:
20:17.51CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
20:17.53CIA-8- Fixed "uabLayoutManager.constants.button" to "uab.constants.button".
20:18.02Ozguliwhat about that for arena?
20:18.13Ozgulimaybe with other weapon than a mace before I manage to find one
20:18.35dylanmMace just seems so good right now though
20:18.57Ozguliis there even any pve mace?
20:19.03JoshBorkePkekyo|: kill
20:19.08Pkekyo|damnit :<
20:19.10OzguliI'm so -not- going to grind blacksmithing so it's the arena mace or nothing
20:19.18Pkekyo|my guild can't do it then :<
20:19.22dylanms3 arena mace is lolllllls-looking
20:19.26Pkekyo|9min after two packs of trolls
20:19.47JoshBorkePkekyo|: you can skip the first patrol
20:19.56JoshBorkebut yea, you'll need at least 5 minutes to kill the boss
20:20.13dylanmOzguli: How far are you into teh raidz?
20:20.23Pkekyo|8min now...some  fucktard isn't on vent, so we're waiting for him...that bloody arsehat
20:20.43Ozgulieee, didn't find a proper guild so stuck in kara
20:22.44dylanmOkay there's like one mace in Kara pretty much
20:22.52Ozgulithere is? :O
20:22.59dylanmIt's not very good :(
20:23.04Ozgulibtw the last build I linked
20:23.16Ozguliwould it be too much of self-gimping to use it in pve?
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20:25.55GandharvaAntiar1: Don't know if it's fixed already -> [2007/11/25 20:34:18-203-x3]: Omen-2.1r55025\OmenMenu.lua:956: attempt to index field 'parent' (a nil value)
20:26.28Pkekyo|illhoof drops a mace
20:27.43dylanm_http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28657
20:27.53dylanm_A little meh but better than nothing.
20:28.15Pkekyo|I still use it on my warr
20:28.24Pkekyo|together with Fury from ZA
20:28.36dylanm_Pkekyo|: Hot!
20:28.47CIA-803kaelten * r55994 10cgProfiler/npcs/npcs.lua:
20:28.47CIA-8cgProfiler -
20:28.49CIA-8- Fixed formatting bug related ti the low level flag on quests.
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20:31.03Pkekyo|dylanm: hmm?
20:32.32NightHawkTheSanelua> x = { a = "a" }; y = x; y.a = "b"; print(x.a)
20:32.32lua_botNightHawkTheSane: b
20:35.12dylanm_Pkekyo|: Wha?
20:35.44Pkekyo|dylanm_Pkekyo|: Hot!
20:35.44Pkekyo|Pkekyo|              dylanm: hmm?
20:36.30NightHawkTheSaneI have this strange sense of deja vous
20:36.30dylanm_Oh. The weapon.
20:36.38Pkekyo|fury?
20:38.07CIA-803etten * r55995 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (7 files):
20:38.07CIA-8FuBar_GroupFu:
20:38.08CIA-8Added Reset Instances and Leave party to GroupFu's menu for those of us that have bound UF right click to castable spells.
20:38.11PolarinaKaelten: Have you read my e-mail? :)
20:43.24krkaFin: It was called autotravel
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20:45.35CIA-803joshborke 07Ace3 * r55996 10aUF_barFader/aUF_barFader.lua: aUF_barFader: options actually toggle correctly
20:46.07CIA-803silmano * r55997 10SellOMatic/SellOMatic.lua:
20:46.07CIA-8SellOMatic:
20:46.07CIA-8- Changed lua mistake
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20:46.45Polarinasilmano: People lost all their items!
20:48.11dylanm_lolz
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20:53.17PolarinaKaelten: ?
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20:55.05Pkekyo|how many quests are there within ZA?
20:55.39PolarinaPkekyo|: Blizzard forgot to make them, so they added the quests with patch 2.3.0.
20:57.23Fisker-11/25 21:26:17.022  An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Grid - GridLayoutPartyPlayer:SetWidth()
20:57.24Fisker-QQ :I
20:57.54PolarinaFisker-: Working as intendedâ„¢
20:57.59Fisker-no u
20:58.01Fisker-as intended
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21:00.43sbyour mom working as intended? :/
21:00.53Pkekyo|Polarina: err...zul'aman didn't come before patch 2.3.0? :)
21:01.13fridgidhot
21:01.16PolarinaPkekyo|: It did, a long ago. They just didn't open the gates to the entrance.
21:01.21Pkekyo|Ellipsis wins!
21:01.31Ellipsiscool, what do I win?
21:01.36Ellipsisplease tell me it's cake
21:01.46Ellipsisor pie, pie would be ok too
21:01.52Pkekyo|Ellipsis: Fisker-...but guess I could find some cake if you come over
21:01.54fridgidyou win free code to debug!
21:01.57fridgidgratz!
21:01.59Pkekyo|Polarina: lolswut...ok
21:02.06Ellipsisyou guys suck at giving out prizes =[
21:02.08Pkekyo|is it true all s3 arena gear will require a personal rating?
21:02.27Pkekyo|Ellipsis: I know it's not much, but since you had Fisker- within reach allready...
21:03.20CIA-803zuno * r55998 10UnitActionBars2/buttonskins/uabSkins_cyCircled.lua:
21:03.26CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
21:03.33CIA-8- Fixed support for cyCircled skins.
21:04.00Pkekyo|http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1640794413&sid=1 epix
21:04.12Pkekyo|"And I have four warriors. One of them will be death knight, one of them main tank, one of them dps, one of them pvp..."
21:04.38Pkekyo|someone should tell that boy respeccing is possible
21:04.48Pkekyo|must be quite the masochist to level four warriors O.o
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21:08.40Ellipsiswant pastey back =[
21:09.56Pkekyo|someone killed pastey?
21:10.24NightHawkTheSanecause there's no other pastebin sites, anywhere.
21:10.45nevcairielpastebin.com works fine for me when pastey sucks again
21:12.30Ellipsispastey is cooler
21:12.58nevcairielpastey lags like hell most of the time
21:13.19EllipsisI just like to keep all my code scraps in one place
21:14.28Gnarfozwere vashj cores fixed to be always lootable in 2.3?
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21:16.29Xinhuanhmm
21:16.29Xinhuanone of the chinese translaters used |N
21:16.29Pkekyo|http://youtube.com/watch?v=uqkGfinCFs0&feature=related ftw :)
21:16.29Xinhuanin the ## Notes-zhCN:
21:16.29Xinhuanin the TOC
21:16.29Xinhuanis that correct usage?
21:16.30Pkekyo|never experienced pastey lagging
21:16.42Gnarfoz!ar 380
21:16.42ThraeBotGnarfoz: Arena rating from 380 points is, 2v2: 1599, 3v3: 1563, 5v5: 1532
21:17.00Pkekyo|!ap 2000
21:17.00ThraeBotPkekyo|: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054
21:17.10Pkekyo|!ar 1000
21:17.10ThraeBotPkekyo|: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 2027, 3v3: 1991, 5v5: 1960
21:17.38GnarfozThrae: is that adjusted for the current calculations?
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21:18.41Xinhuanit is Gnarfoz, you can proof it using !rating
21:18.46Xinhuanor !points
21:18.55Gnarfozhow so?
21:19.01Xinhuanbecause i run my own bot
21:19.08Gnarfozyeah, and I could ask you the same question :P
21:19.11Pkekyo|ThraeBot fails
21:19.13CivrockThat means ArenaFu is broken?
21:19.15Xinhuanand thrae and i compared the numbers before
21:19.30Xinhuanwell, the exact formula is given on wowarmory.com
21:19.36Xinhuando you need a link?
21:20.16Xinhuanthe only difference between thrae and my bot are some rounding mechanisms as to whether it should round up, down or off ;p
21:20.32Xinhuanhttp://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml
21:20.36Xinhuanthat's where the formula is
21:20.39Xinhuanat the bottom of the page
21:20.58Xinhuanso
21:20.59Xinhuan%points5 = $calc( 1511.26 / (1 + 4456.025035 ^ (-0.00412 * $2)) )
21:21.07Xinhuanor
21:21.08Xinhuan%points5 = $calc( 0.22 * $2 + 14 )
21:21.39JoshBorke~lart Xinhuan
21:21.39purlsays "boot to the head" and knocks Xinhuan over
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21:22.54Civrock"!ar" seems to be incorrect, unles I'm interpreting it wrong.
21:23.25LywellynIs there something extra I need to be doing with WAU on Vista?
21:24.02Pkekyo|....!ar says 2000 rating will give 928 points (3v3)
21:24.02Pkekyo|....!ap says 1991 rating will give 1000 points (3v3)
21:24.02Pkekyo|epic fucking fail at maths, anyone?
21:24.03fridgidi don;t think so, i use it on vista
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21:25.21LywellynKeeps erroring on update.  And I don't know why.
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21:30.11Xinhuantry !points and !rating then
21:30.16Xinhuaninstead of !ar and !ap
21:31.43Pkekyo|!points 1000
21:31.43Xinhuan1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating.
21:31.48Pkekyo|!rating 2000
21:31.48Xinhuan2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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21:32.22Pkekyo|that's not right either
21:32.35Pkekyo|well, the points are the same as !ar
21:32.42Xinhuanwhat's not right about it?
21:33.07Xinhuanclearly thraebot didn't update his formulas for 2v2 and 3v3
21:33.16Pkekyo|well, either yours bot or thraebot is severely fucktarded
21:33.21Xinhuanfor his inverse treshold
21:33.26Xinhuanhttp://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml
21:33.28Xinhuanverify it there
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21:34.53Pkekyo|3v3 rating for 1k points is 2066 on that calculator...
21:35.09Xinhuanyes, my bot says 2067, because i round up
21:35.27wereHamsterhttp://aycu10.webshots.com/image/31649/2001611063532326564_rs.jpg - what's the addon that displays the grey borders around the bottom frames?
21:35.36Pkekyo|well, your bot is one ratingpoint off, but I trust it
21:35.57NightHawkTheSanelua_bot: if(false==nil) then print("test") end
21:36.19NightHawkTheSanelua_bot: if(false==nil) then print("true") else print("false") end;
21:36.24Xinhuanalso, my bot checks for the presence of ThraeBot, if he isn't around, i answer !ap and !ar as well ;p
21:36.28NightHawkTheSane...
21:36.32wereHamsterNightHawkTheSane> false
21:36.48Xinhuanlua> if(false==nil) then print("test") end
21:36.48lua_botXinhuan:
21:36.50Pkekyo|Xinhuan: fancypants :)
21:37.03NightHawkTheSaneoh, right
21:37.08Xinhuanfalse and nil are 2 different values
21:37.09Xinhuan:)
21:37.46Xinhuanlua> a = function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end return a(a)
21:37.50NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: thanks. :P
21:37.50Xinhuanwhoa
21:38.18Xinhuani was just copying batrick's function ;p
21:39.18Xinhuanin fact, he's in this channel
21:39.21CIA-803quagmire * r55999 10nQuestLog/ (12 files in 9 dirs):
21:39.23CIA-8nQuestLog:
21:39.25CIA-8- Updated German localization (thanks harldephin)
21:39.29CIA-8- Added deDE.lua placeholder files for module localization
21:39.31CIA-8- Removed redundant locale string from Coloring module
21:40.07cladhaireXinhuan: ...
21:40.15Xinhuani did it ~_~
21:40.17Ellipsisoh oh, someone's in trouble
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21:40.36PolarinaKaelten: Ping?
21:40.39cladhairei'd rather not have to keep checking the bot.
21:40.49cladhaireno reason to try to crash him
21:40.53cladhairewith that, at least
21:40.54Xinhuancan your bot disable coroutines then?
21:40.58Xinhuan:)
21:41.00cladhaireyes i can
21:41.01Xinhuanuntil its fixed
21:41.01cladhairebut don't do it
21:41.03cladhaireno
21:41.05cladhairethat's ridiculous
21:41.10Polarinacladhaire: Just apply the freaking official patches!
21:41.15cladhairePolarina: ther eisn't a patch for it
21:41.19cladhaireall patches are applies
21:41.21cladhaireso stfu imo!
21:41.22cladhaire:P
21:41.46Polarinacladhaire: There is. Make one, the description on what has to be done is there.
21:41.57cladhaireyes
21:42.00cladhaireand i don't have the time to do it
21:42.04cladhaireand they haven't posted an official patch
21:42.39Xinhuanits ok, we still <3 your bot :)
21:42.53Xinhuanwhy doesn't it auto-reconnect?
21:42.58cladhairefighting me on this will do nothing more than make me shut the bot down
21:43.09cladhaireXinhuan: for a number of reasons, mainly if something goes wrong i want to know what happened.
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21:44.21aestil!c
21:44.31JoshBorkeaestil: what wand did you get?
21:44.42aestilbadge wand with +12 dmg gem in it.
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21:44.47JoshBorkeooo, nice
21:44.54JoshBorkei bought the badge wand too, but only put +9 in it
21:45.06aestilwell, you'd pretty much have to be in hyjal to get the 12dmg
21:45.06Xinhuani'm considering doing that and putting a +14 in it
21:45.07JoshBorkei think i'm going to regem my spellstrike set
21:45.08Mudkipzso my account subscription expire on the 20th
21:45.19aestilXinhuan: 14 what?
21:45.20JoshBorkethere are +14 gems? O>O
21:45.24aestiloh, he's a JC
21:45.26Xinhuanyeah +14 gems are JC-only
21:45.26Mudkipzand I really don't have the itch to renew it for tonights raid
21:45.32Xinhuanthink its worth it?
21:45.37aestilclass?
21:45.37Xinhuani have magtheridon and aran wands
21:45.39Xinhuanmage
21:45.42aestilits best wand in the game for a sp.
21:45.48aestilXinhuan: get solarians wand.
21:45.53Xinhuandon't do tk anymore
21:45.56Mudkipzexpired*
21:46.05aestilXinhuan: *shrugs*
21:46.15Xinhuanso its a matter of crit vs hit vs damage
21:46.23Pkekyo|fucksake, first time guild gets Akil'zon below 50% hp, we get him to 4% and wipe >.<
21:46.26JoshBorkesorry, mages are scrubs
21:46.30aestilfreaking random cloak drop in hyjal hasn't dropped once yet.
21:46.34Xinhuan~lart JoshBorke
21:46.34purlturns JoshBorke into a lifesized tux doll
21:46.43JoshBorkeall the chicks will dig me now!
21:46.46|Stan|aestil: which wand is the best for spriests? badges?
21:46.49Xinhuanwe've had that cloak drop about 5 times, think its on DE now
21:46.52JoshBorke|Stan|: yes
21:46.56Mudkipzthe shadow cloak?
21:46.56aestilPkekyo|: which is akil'zon?
21:46.59Xinhuanyes
21:47.00Mudkipzlol we're DE'ing that now
21:47.07Mudkipzevery lock and spriest has their own
21:47.11Xinhuanthe others farmed it while the Grunts still dropped epics
21:47.12aestil|Stan|: yes, badge wand is best SP wand in game.
21:47.18Pkekyo|aestil: bird boss
21:47.27aestilPkekyo|: in ZA?
21:47.28JoshBorkei still need the neck out of kara
21:47.45aestilJoshBorke: me too.  i've been exalted with VE for like, 3 months, i've never once seen it drop.
21:47.52JoshBorkeouch
21:47.57Xinhuanits funny, that neck
21:47.57Pkekyo|aestil: aye
21:48.03JoshBorkeaestil: your luck is awful
21:48.04aestilpretty frustrating all these random trash drops are the best overall gear for SP.
21:48.09Xinhuanin my first 3 months, i saw it drop like 10 times, then for the next 6 months, i never saw it drop again
21:48.12aestilJoshBorke: i know it.
21:48.22Xinhuanits pretty funny
21:48.24JoshBorkeaestil: i saw the neck drop when i was still disc/holy
21:48.35JoshBorkethis was before i was shadow
21:48.38aestilhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Acero
21:48.44aestilthats the best geared SP in my guild.
21:48.52LywellynOkay, I don't know what's wrong with my WAU, but it's rather frustrating >< Keeps going "Error during update".  I tried to enable ClickOnce logging as per the forum help post, but it won't log anything.
21:49.05CIA-803zuno * r56000 10UnitActionBars2/Activate/main.lua:
21:49.05CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
21:49.06CIA-8- Fixes for startup Activate support.
21:49.08aestilof course he's in pvp gear.
21:49.15aestilhe's got like 1260 +dmg unbuffed.
21:49.15JoshBorkelol
21:49.17JoshBorkeyea, was gonna say
21:49.32Xinhuanhe wears SR neck in pvp?
21:49.33Xinhuanhmm
21:49.45JoshBorkewith 49 stam?
21:49.45Mudkipzlol pvp gear
21:49.46JoshBorkei would
21:49.49Mudkipzgtfo
21:49.52aestilSR neck made malacrass stupid easy.
21:50.01Mudkipzhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark+Iron&n=Hexnub
21:50.07CIA-803zuno * r56001 10UnitActionBars2/Activate/main.lua:
21:50.07CIA-8UnitActionBars2:
21:50.07CIA-8- nil check added for startup activate.
21:50.38aestilwho drops that hammer of justice?
21:51.13Pkekyo|christ, akil'zon electrical storm timers were 30 bloody seconds off, wiped the rai
21:51.14Pkekyo|d
21:51.23aestilyikes, Mudkipz, thats like a sp wet dream right there.
21:51.34aestilPkekyo|: its a cooldown ability.
21:51.38aestilnot a timed ability
21:51.46Mudkipzwe got another one but I don't think hes as well geard as this guy
21:51.56Mudkipzour main SP quit the game sadly
21:52.00|Stan|aestil: http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Muqq&searchType=characters ^^
21:52.19|Stan|eww
21:52.22aestil15 12 dmg gems.  wow.
21:52.46aestilwhy did you link that?
21:52.50Mudkipznow you know why my guild never has crimson spinels in the guilbank
21:52.54|Stan|because I'm dumb
21:53.00aestilgm tanks them?
21:53.01|Stan|I was looking for Muqq from Nihilum
21:53.16|Stan|but...US armory
21:53.20|Stan|:p
21:53.27JoshBorke~fail |Stan|
21:53.28purl|Stan|: Fail.
21:53.32|Stan|yeah yeah
21:53.34JoshBorkeMudkipz: that gear makes me cry a little inside
21:53.37|Stan|here he comes http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Muqq
21:53.41Pkekyo|aestil: so....wtf are we going to do?
21:53.55aestilPkekyo|: i dunno, we killed him on friday on our first try.
21:53.59aestilPkekyo|: its a very easy boss.
21:54.11aestilPkekyo|: until dragonhawk that instance is boring.
21:54.22MudkipzI don't think storm timers should really wipe the raid
21:54.35Pkekyo|aestil: not for us it's not
21:54.42Mudkipztry to stay away from each other but stay relatively close to the middle box where the boss stands
21:54.55aestilPkekyo|: are you guys just coming out of kara?
21:54.57JoshBorkedon't mind aestil, he's just a jerk
21:55.20JoshBorkePkekyo|: what my guild found to work was to move in to the box when it got close to storm and then spread back out afterwards
21:55.26JoshBorkethat way you don't have to run as far for the storm
21:55.38Pkekyo|aestil: yup
21:55.42aestilprayer of mending makes it easier to heal.
21:55.47aestilmake sure that goes off constantly.
21:56.00aestilresto shaman makes healing it a joke easy.
21:56.27JoshBorkePkekyo|: i've found boss 1 = tank test, boss 2 = healer test, boss 3 = dps test
21:56.34JoshBorkehave no idea on the rest of the bosses
21:59.15aestilthe trash on the way to the boss on the right, the one past the bear, is probably too hard for a guild right out of kara.
21:59.58JoshBorkethat would be the third boss, and why do you say that?
22:00.08JoshBorkeit just takes CC and coordination to kill those damn scouts
22:00.28Pkekyo|JoshBorke: we try to do that too, but with our gear it's so cruicial that everyone stays alive; if not, we're screwed
22:00.28Pkekyo|so bloody annoying...first try 4% wipe, after that we can't get him below 50%
22:01.12Pkekyo|third wipe now
22:01.35JoshBorketime to clear trash :-)
22:01.39aestilPkekyo|: remember to have your healers heal.
22:01.43Pkekyo|fourth wipe...tempest spawned on top of us
22:02.07Pkekyo|aestil: thank you captain obvious
22:02.20Mudkipzlol
22:03.29Ellipsisget me off this stupid server
22:03.41aestilroll a character on darkspear! :)  i'll bug you all day.
22:03.43Ellipsistrade channel is arguing about whether prot pallies need spell damage or not :|
22:04.33Pkekyo|rofl
22:05.21Pkekyo|holy jumping fucking jesus... I pay 9.4g for every death now (repairbills)
22:05.30aestilPkekyo|: tank?
22:05.39Pkekyo|maintank
22:05.41Pkekyo|warrior
22:05.42Xinhuanare you saying 0% == 94g repairs?
22:05.47Pkekyo|dreadful plate durability
22:05.52aestilPkekyo|: liez.
22:05.56Pkekyo|Xinhuan: about 86g approx
22:06.03CIA-803joshborke 07Ace3 * r56002 10aUF_barFader/aUF_barFader.lua: aUF_barFader: global options and basic code added
22:06.40Pkekyo|I will be at 0% long before I die ten times anyways
22:07.10Pkekyo|aestil: no, truth
22:08.08|Stan|meh
22:08.10|Stan|damn wand
22:08.36|Stan|need more spell hit now :(
22:09.09Mudkipzyeah
22:09.10Mudkipzmt
22:10.29fridgidfuckin ehh, wtb demonoid back......
22:12.06Pkekyo|demonoid? what happened?
22:13.05Ellipsisomgz I totally got invited to a raid for the first time in weeks and it's kara
22:13.06Ellipsis>_>
22:13.24fridgiddemonoid's been down for a while
22:13.33Pkekyo|will ALL s3 items require a personal rating?
22:13.48CivrockJust Shoulders and Weapons.
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22:14.04fridgidaka if you loose your rating you can't weild the item?
22:14.06Pkekyo|I heard blues have been popping posts that all items will
22:14.11Pkekyo|fridgid: no
22:14.16fridgidok
22:14.19Pkekyo|just need it to buy them
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22:19.27Mudkipzlol
22:19.36MudkipzI told one of my friends to l2p
22:19.55thulL2P!!
22:20.06Mudkipzthey gave me a blank face cos they didn't know what it meant
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22:22.54thulhttp://www.talkingdesktop.com/Grace%20Park.jpg
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22:23.16Mudkipzeh?
22:23.28[dRaCo]slightly offtopic, isnt it? :>
22:23.30Mudkipzsome korean wemiz?
22:23.47Pkekyo|[dRaCo]: slightly...not horribly though...it's fine. :)
22:23.54[dRaCo]k
22:24.06Pkekyo|kinda distracting though...I find it hard to read 2.3.2 patchnotes now x)
22:24.30[dRaCo]2.3.2 patchnotes are out?
22:24.30Mudkipzit's fine
22:24.30Mudkipz2.3.2 = mages buffed
22:24.30Mudkipznothing to see here
22:24.46[dRaCo]nerf mages!
22:24.48Pkekyo|2.3.2 = warriors indirectly nerfed further (also other meelee DPS though)
22:24.56Pkekyo|agreed, nerf the bastards into oblivion
22:25.09Mudkipzwarrs get nerfed every patch
22:25.11[dRaCo]and buff melee dps!
22:25.17Mudkipzyet they still find a way to come out on top
22:25.32Mudkipzhand em a new weapon = fixed
22:26.03Diaolol
22:26.06Diaosuch a misconception
22:28.12Pkekyo|Mudkipz: indeed, sad but true
22:28.17thulpfft
22:28.31thulit is battlestar galactica Mudkipz and [dRaCo]
22:28.49[dRaCo]it is not... it's some asian chick.
22:28.55Pkekyo|but the 99% of the people that doesn't get that one weapon, are utterly screwed (compared to similarly geared people of other classes)
22:29.06Diaokind of funny
22:29.08Chompersnice picture
22:29.09Pkekyo|[dRaCo]: it's an actor from the BS:Galactica series, aye
22:29.11Diaomost of the top 3s teams are all RMP :(
22:29.11Chompersshame she can't act
22:29.17Pkekyo|she's a cylon
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22:29.28Chompersthat explains the robotic acting
22:29.34Ellipsisyour mom is a cylon
22:29.41thulPaladins
22:29.41thulCrusader Strike (Retribution) now causes 110% of weapon damage and no longer gains any bonus from spell damage.
22:29.44thulyes
22:29.45thulYES YES YES
22:29.47thul:-D
22:30.00Ellipsisisn't it still holy though?
22:30.01|Stan|awesome..
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22:30.10thulwell, you can stack up on str+sta
22:30.11thuland have fun
22:30.13thulno +spell :-P
22:31.07Pkekyo|I love it how people who manage to die in raids find a way to always talk about the enrage timer
22:31.16Ellipsiso.O
22:31.38thulthey are being helpfull :-P
22:33.47Pkekyo|"there's still 5 minutes left on the enrage timer..."
22:33.48Pkekyo|"there's still 4 minutes 50 sec left on the enrage timer..." yeah, you get the idea...
22:34.04Ellipsisfail
22:34.08thull2f
22:34.10Mudkipzno u
22:34.29Ellipsisno u
22:35.36Pkekyo|meh WotLK won't give rested XP? poopshoots!
22:35.51greppyPkekyo|: where did you read that?
22:36.38ag`Pkekyo|, hm?
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22:37.43nevcairielthey will start everyone with 0 rested, thats been blue posted somewhere
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22:38.04greppyohhh
22:38.10nymbiasame as they did for TBC..
22:38.11kenlyriclordy, why did that even need to be news?
22:38.12greppyfor those that are already at 70
22:38.14nevcairielif you login once and get to an inn, you will still get rested
22:38.22nevcairielnymbia: sure? i remember you had rested
22:38.25kenlyricwe don't even earn rest at max level.
22:38.29kenlyricanymore.
22:39.13Pkekyo|greppy: mmo-champion
22:39.27Pkekyo|somewhere down the front page
22:39.43Bibithe rested xp will be reset at the release
22:39.48Bibithey did the same for the release of BC
22:39.51kenlyric<PROTECTED>
22:40.06Bibinothing surprising, it s just a way to fill the frontpage with news and make it look like it's interesting
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22:40.27buuYay news!
22:40.28kenlyricyeah, I just don't get why a blue had to post on it.
22:40.37kenlyricyou don't *earn* rest at max level anymore.
22:40.44buukenlyric: Because people are dumb.
22:41.07CIA-803nymbia 07Ace3 * r56003 10Quartz/Quartz.lua:
22:41.07CIA-8Quartz:
22:41.08CIA-8- Fix the module loading mechanism with temporary hack
22:41.41kenlyricmeanwhile, I have 165% rest on my warlock.
22:41.43kenlyricgo me!
22:45.03silentiummaybe they are going to delete the collected rested bonus from characters below 70 too when WotLK comes out
22:45.31ulicI thought I read a blue someplace saying they are
22:45.34[Ammo]nymbia: hack?
22:45.35silentiumkenlyric: then your addon calculates it the wrong way, it cant go above 150%
22:45.52kenlyricsilentium: it fails if you ding and don't rest in an inn and hit 150%
22:46.05kenlyricbecause the amount it needs to go 1.5 levels has changed.
22:46.15kenlyricit's been dumb since 2.0 :)
22:46.19Antiar1Nooo
22:46.19thulhmm, WotLK is in a year or something, right?
22:46.26Antiar1What happened to Elitist Jerks?
22:46.57CIA-803adirelle * r56004 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (. SimpleSelfRebuff.lua buffs/tracking.lua embeds.xml):
22:46.59CIA-8SimpleSelfRebuff:
22:47.01CIA-8- embedded LibStub,
22:47.03CIA-8- switched to LibBabble-Spell-3.0,
22:47.05CIA-8- minimal support of 2.3 built-in tracking modes.
22:47.08nymbia[Ammo]: it was depending on saving the state of the modules in the old ace2 fashion and i didn't want to make it work right now
22:47.29kenlyricI should see if allplayed bugs out too.
22:47.41nymbia[Ammo]: because i'm trying to track something else down.. looks like OnInit is being called twice when you load a module within the OnInit
22:48.38dylanm_Antiar1: Wha?
22:48.57Antiar1http://elitistjerks.com/
22:49.05Antiar1Server Default page
22:49.07thulAntiar1: changing servers
22:49.09dylanm_Aha.
22:49.13dylanm_Yeah they've been saying that.
22:49.19Antiar1Ooh, okay
22:49.20thulbut isn't wotLK like in 12-20 months?
22:49.21dylanm_It was in stickies and everything.
22:49.22kenlyricguild bank hacked, website deleted.
22:49.23thulwhy care about it already :-P
22:49.28Antiar1I only read the UI forum
22:49.34thulmy ui > *
22:50.00kenlyricthanks for the info.
22:50.22kenlyricis that some sort of macro that fires when someone types UI?
22:50.24Pkekyo|what enchant should I put on [Fury]?
22:50.27kenlyricguess not.
22:50.30kenlyricFiery
22:50.37thulkenlyric seems bitter and sad :-(
22:50.37kenlyricfor alliteration
22:50.56Pkekyo|kenlyric: fiery?
22:51.01Pkekyo|O.o
22:51.02AntiarcIcy.
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22:51.36CIA-803xinhuan * r56005 10BankItems/ (4 files): BankItems: Move a number of English strings out to localization files.
22:53.17thulhttp://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_raid.jpg ftw.
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22:54.53[dRaCo]what's so ftw about that one?
22:54.54Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_110907_212750.jpg ftwingerw.
22:55.01thuleverything
22:55.09[dRaCo]yeah... sure
22:55.16thulofcourse, it would be more apparent if i was using it in my standard resolution
22:55.20thulbut that have to wait
22:56.14dylanm_Antiarc: 4pc bonus ftw
22:56.24[Ammo]nymbia: that would be correct
22:56.28[Ammo]nymbia: that's what happens
22:56.33[Ammo]and it is probably a bug
22:56.36[Ammo]jira it
22:57.34nymbiai will
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22:57.53[Ammo]I know how to fix it
22:57.55[Ammo]just battling archi atm
22:58.02nymbiamultitask!
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23:00.36Pkekyo|Antiarc: what monitor setup are you running?
23:00.50ZhinjioGood afternoon, folks.
23:00.56Pkekyo|morning Zhinjio
23:01.02AntiarcDell 2405 FPW, 24" widescreen. 19" CRT (standard ratio) secondary monitor.
23:01.27ZhinjioI love that monitor, Antiarc. I've got the same one.
23:01.36|Stan|same here
23:01.36Zhinjio(the Dell)
23:01.37AntiarcIt's awesome :D
23:01.43|Stan|yup
23:01.56Pkekyo|Antiarc: two monitors? running splitscreen?
23:02.09AntiarcI only run WoW on one screen, but yeah, extended windows desktop
23:02.18Zhinjioif you include my laptop running multiplicity, I've got 3 screens
23:02.20Zhinjioheh
23:02.22AntiarcThe second screen I use for IRC/DKP website/Winamp/log windows/whatever
23:03.01thuli just want to get a new desktop computer, running wow on a macbook is getting tiresom :-P
23:03.54*** part/#wowace batrick (n=batrick@c-76-18-69-99.hsd1.nm.comcast.net)
23:04.09Pkekyo|I couldn't possibly run splitscreen between one CRT and one LCD
23:04.16CIA-803xbeeps * r56006 10HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua:
23:04.16CIA-8HealComm-2.0:
23:04.18CIA-8- Fix a problem when recasting spells before the current spell finishes.
23:04.18*** join/#wowace Orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-96-52-105.ph.ph.cox.net)
23:04.22CIA-8- Support for fully qualified battleground names.
23:04.28Pkekyo|tried once
23:04.34Pkekyo|figured I was better off without
23:05.14AntiarcWell, I run the CRT at an 85hz refresh rate, so there isn't any noticable flicker.
23:05.19CIA-803xbeeps * r56007 10VisualHeal/ (VisualHeal.lua VisualHealUtils.lua):
23:05.19CIA-8VisualHeal:
23:05.19CIA-8- Support for fully qualified battleground names.
23:05.33Pkekyo|at 85hz my CRT would explode :+
23:05.34Pkekyo|:p
23:05.49ChompersAntiarc: hows the banding on your screen?
23:06.09AntiarcI don't have any noticable banding issues
23:06.19Chompersoh you said 2405
23:06.22Chompersnever mind then
23:06.22Antiarcyeah
23:06.25TullerI really hate that I can notice things below like 75
23:06.25CIA-803xbeeps * r56008 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:
23:06.25CIA-8VisualHeal:
23:06.25CIA-8- Bump version (forgot...)
23:06.27sbAntiarc: mhh - is that Assessment?
23:06.27AntiarcWell
23:06.30Antiarcsb: Yes
23:06.31Chompersthe 2407 has terrible banding
23:07.24Antiarcwell
23:07.35AntiarcMy 2405 broke and Dell shipped me a replacement 2407
23:07.38AntiarcBut I don't have issues with it
23:08.10Chompersyou might've got the updated firmware with it
23:08.16Antiarcll fire up Photoshop and check!
23:08.18Chompersthey sorta fixed it with that one
23:08.35Funkeh`gn
23:08.57stavmarsowhat would cause a huge paus from dismounting, is Closetgnome known to do that?
23:08.57AntiarcHm. I can see some banding if I look really closely
23:09.01*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-91-57.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:09.08AntiarcBut it's not noticable unless I'm looking for it
23:09.36Ellipsisstavmar: changing equipment always causes a slight lag, so that may be part of it
23:09.47stavmarbut in BGs it sux
23:10.01Ellipsisyou can hold alt to prevent it from using the mount set IIRC
23:10.06AmadeoForum keylogger posts are getting out of hand, Blizzard really needs to take some more steps against it
23:10.10stavmarI am wondering if any other mods could do this as well...It is like a deliberate lag enough for the enemy to run away
23:10.12Ellipsissince you probably don't want to switch your stuff in a BG anyway
23:10.27stavmarAntiarc: I run with that same Dell, about to get a second, I cannot wait
23:10.44stavmarwellI actually have it turned off now and still seeing the lag
23:11.06Antiarcstavmar: Search your addons folder for BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
23:11.17AntiarcSomething is handling a lot of those in a slow fashion and causing your issues
23:11.21stavmarmaybe my imp coming out causes teh problem
23:11.49stavmaraah I use possessions and WhoHas for tracking inventory across toons
23:12.17Ellipsisdo you see significant lag when moving items around in your bags, etc.?
23:12.42stavmarnothing unusual Ellips
23:12.55Ellipsisit could also be something that monitors your buffs
23:13.11stavmarEKB is what i use there
23:13.17stavmarAntiarc: any forlder specifically
23:13.20stavmarfolder*
23:13.25Xinhuanstavmar, any addon :)
23:13.25Ellipsisa lot of addons register for buff change events, though
23:13.34Antiarcstavmar: Search your Addons dir for it, and include subfolders
23:13.44AntiarcThat'll get you a list of potentially responsible addons
23:14.13Ellipsisstavmar: also, do you get the same lag when you don't have a pet summoned?
23:14.20Xinhuana good addon will defer acting on BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED events to the next frame so any proccesing only needs to be done once
23:14.52stavmarEllipsis: i need to test that, Antiarc I cannot get either one of those phrases in my folder and subfolder search does Explrer suck or something
23:15.03AntiarcYes, it probably sucks
23:15.07Xinhuanyou can't use explorer's find function ;p
23:15.13|Stan|bah
23:15.15Xinhuanbecause it can only find that exact word with spaces around it
23:15.17|Stan|Aloft is broken :(
23:15.20stavmari am using the sarch function not find function
23:15.24stavmarsearch
23:15.36|Stan|Aloft-r45867\Modules\ThreatData.lua:16: attempt to index field 'TagData' (a nil value)
23:15.36Xinhuandoesn't matter, it wont' find it ;p
23:15.37|Stan|:(
23:15.39AeyanAloft is working fine for me
23:15.47AeyanOh, I don't use the threat module
23:15.57Ellipsisexplorer won't look through lua files either
23:16.03Ellipsisunless you use some uber hax
23:16.23stavmarwell what do i use then?
23:16.45EllipsisI haven't found a good solution on windows
23:16.57Xinhuanthere isn't a solution to that on a windows machine
23:17.00stavmargoogle desktop maybe
23:17.04Xinhuanapart from opening all the files one by one
23:17.06Xinhuanand searching
23:17.08AntiarcI just use "Find in Files" in Notepad++, or a windows version of grep
23:17.12kenlyricwhat are you talking about?"
23:17.18Xinhuan"Find in Files" in Notepad++ works
23:17.22kenlyricwindows search can search inside files just fine.
23:17.25AntiarcThough it's just painful to use the windows console
23:17.29AntiarcIt can, but it's flaky
23:17.31AntiarcAnd it's slow
23:17.34Ellipsiskenlyric: it doesn't know that .lua is text, so it doesn't search inside it
23:17.38Tullermonad :P
23:17.39Xinhuanit doesn't work very well kenlyric
23:17.42kenlyricthere aren't that many files in addons.
23:17.45Tulleror whatever the hell its called now :P
23:17.54Ellipsiskenlyric: if you're searching for an event name in *all* your installed addons?
23:17.59kenlyricEllipsis: uh, yes, I promise it does.
23:18.15Ellipsiskenlyric: k make mine work then
23:18.36Antiarchttp://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm
23:18.37Antiarck, done
23:18.58stavmarkenlyric: and if you have over 150 addons in teh folder that can be tedious
23:19.20stavmarAntiarc: I have the program, can I erase teh filters there or do I type in something else
23:19.27stavmarFor Find in Files
23:19.49|Stan|http://pastebin.com/me465d91 <- wtf is that?
23:19.53AntiarcFind what: BAG_UPDATE; Filters: *.lua; Directory: Your addons dir
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23:20.29XinhuanUNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
23:20.30Xinhuanas well
23:20.51stavmarwindows found this within the changelog of postal
23:20.52Antiarcwell, search one then the other
23:20.53stavmarPostal: - Fixed the case where shift-clicking stops taking items out of a multiple attachment mail when the retrieved item stacks on top of an existing stack rather than create a new stack. This is done by listening for BAG_UPDATE on top of UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED.
23:21.34Xinhuani wrote that fix - so i can assure you it only registers for that event when you shift-click the mail
23:21.43Xinhuanand when it finishes, it unregisters it
23:22.17stavmarXinhuan: you da man...
23:22.39Xinhuanlet me ask you
23:22.46Xinhuando you use an addon that records your inventory and bank items?
23:22.49Xinhuanto view anywhere
23:22.53stavmarposessions
23:22.58Xinhuanthat addon will be the problem.
23:23.02Xinhuanhere's why
23:23.07stavmarfigured as much
23:23.09kenlyricEllipsis: I dunno what's wrong. I have a "A word or phrase in the file" which has never failed me before.
23:23.09Xinhuanwhen you switch a piece of gear
23:23.19Xinhuanwhen you switch a piece of gear, UNIT_INVENTORY_UPDATE fires twice
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23:23.39Xinhuanbecause you are swapping in a gear and swapping out a gear
23:23.42Xinhuanso your bag updates twice
23:23.56Xinhuanso if you use ClosetGnome or Itemrack etc to swap an entire set of gear
23:24.01Xinhuani.e 18 items at a go
23:24.07Xinhuanyou will fire 36 events
23:24.28Xinhuanso as unlikely as it sounds, it is probably because Posessions is recorded changes to your inventory/bags 36 times
23:24.32Xinhuanin a single frame
23:24.35Xinhuanwhen you mass swap gear
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23:25.02Wobwor1Mmm
23:25.13Wobwor1perhaps a polling solution will help =)
23:25.15Xinhuanthat was an issue in BankItems i had fixed - i merely listen for the events - start an OnUpdate for the next frame, and the next frame records the changes, then nils the OnUpdate
23:25.52Xinhuani will suggest you replace Posessions with BankItems since they do the same thing :) </selfpromotion>
23:26.00stavmarok XInhuan
23:26.03Wobwor1Xinhuan: woo, subtle =)
23:26.05Xinhuanbut first
23:26.09stavmarXinhuan: sorry for teh mispelling
23:26.10Xinhuandisable possessions
23:26.19Xinhuanand see if that is the addon that is causing the issue
23:26.27Mudkipzonebank suite ftw
23:26.30stavmarwill Bankitems show what my alts have on different toons?
23:26.35Xinhuanyes it will
23:26.37Mudkipzonebag*
23:26.39Xinhuanand search them as well
23:26.44Xinhuanalso check if you are running Lootlink
23:27.02stavmarI more interested in seeing the information on tooltips rather thana  search... I am not running Lootlink
23:27.04XinhuanLootlink will parse your inventory, all 5 bags, 120 items on every UNIT_INVENTORY_UPDATE
23:27.16stavmarok so disable possesions and see what happens to CLoset gnome
23:27.38Xinhuanbankitems doesn't add tooltips yet to indicate how many items you have on your alts, but i plan to add that
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23:27.50stavmaror the potential update i guess, and thank you very much for the explanation, very much appreciated
23:28.08stavmarok Xin, that is what I need/wnat, as it makes things go a lot faster
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23:29.19stavmarIn my head not in the game...
23:29.21Diaogrep for windows!
23:29.45Xinhuanbankitems uses default ui bag system btw, so if you use some sort of bagmod like onebag or arkinv, i wouldn't reccommend it
23:30.39Xinhuanbut for the sake of it, just test and confirm that Possessions is the cause of the lag first
23:32.35stavmarwell it is disaled and the lag seems to have minimized a bit, but I still feel the lag, I use baggins so will bank items cause problems?
23:32.41stavmardisabled*
23:33.21Xinhuanit wouldn't cause problems, but as i stated, bankitems displays your bag/bank contents in the default UI's 5-bag system
23:33.33stavmarand how do you set Zone changes with CGnome
23:33.44stavmarXinhuan: I can give it a try
23:33.51Xinhuanyou download an addon module called ClosetGnome_Zone
23:33.53ulicwith switcher maybe?
23:33.58ulicoh, zone :P
23:34.07stavmarXinhuan: i have it, but it seems to not me add the new zone
23:34.16Xinhuancheck the fubar menu
23:34.17stavmarlet me*
23:34.19Xinhuanright click on it
23:34.43stavmarand i see assign set to shatt, but how do i assign to diff zone?
23:34.56Xinhuani believe you have to go to that zone
23:34.57Xinhuan;p
23:35.27stavmarok in ABasin it would not let me add that zone which Is why i ask, but i will enter it again and see how the lag is
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23:36.41stavmari am in AB and CG does not give me the option to add teh zone or anythign
23:37.03Xinhuancheck the TOC, bug the author ;p
23:38.11stavmarLol, when i actually chose teh premade set it automagically cahnged to AB, lol
23:38.33Wobwor1yeah
23:38.41Wobwor1that function is a little kooky
23:39.00Xinhuanis that a new word - kooky ;p
23:39.17Wobwor1I want to have the option for it to remember the outfit you wore before you enter the 'autooutfit' zone and rewear it on leaving
23:39.23ulicmeans just a little bit crazy
23:39.28uliccrazy/odd
23:39.30Wobwor1kooky? No. not new by any means =)
23:40.07Xinhuan~dict kooky
23:40.23Xinhuan~dict 2 kooky
23:40.43stavmarXinhuan: ok the lag is definitely decreased but Parrot shows 2 buffs going away when i dmount dismount, Blood pact, could there be a buff issue here?
23:41.10Xinhuani dont know
23:41.25Xinhuanbuffs is not inventory/bsg
23:41.30Xinhuanthey aren't related
23:41.38stavmarok just wondering
23:41.47Wobwor1~dict balmy
23:41.49stavmarthe other bff i get is the silver war talibuk of course
23:42.14Wobwor1bah, way to be original in examples, dict.com =P
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23:43.30Xinhuanthere could always be other addons listening to BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
23:43.39Xinhuanautobar would be such an addon
23:44.11Xinhuangenerally, i will almost always defer updates by 1 frame for those 2 events in my addons
23:44.23Xinhuanbut most addons i've seen doesn't do that
23:44.48stavmarwell autobar has a history of lag issues...but i love it lol
23:44.50Xinhuanbar mods and bar addons
23:44.56Xinhuanare big culprits here
23:45.04Xinhuanbecause every button has to listen to both events
23:45.05Pkekyo|is it just me, or are people that truly believe George w. Bush has been sent by god to fight the good fight against pure evil rather amusing? :)
23:45.07Xinhuanto update itself
23:45.15Xinhuanso the more buttons you have, the worse it gets
23:45.39OrionshockPkekyo|:  *> bushwacked
23:45.42Xinhuaneven the default UI's 60 buttons all listen to those 2 events
23:45.48Xinhuanand performs an update
23:46.04Pkekyo|Orionshock: indeed....I blame it on 'modern warfare' computer games tbh
23:46.06Xinhuanwhich usually involves updating the remaining itemcount and cooldown
23:46.27Xinhuanfor spells with reagent costs
23:46.28Orionshocki'll take clinton over bushwack'ed any day
23:46.33Pkekyo|indeed
23:46.45Wobwor1hehe
23:46.48Xinhuanthere's no real way around that - like i said, a good addon will defer updates by 1 frame
23:46.51Orionshockhe atleast balanced the budget.... and got head in the office
23:47.03Wobwor1I honestly think that ZeroPunctuation singlehandedly kept the Escapist afloat =P
23:47.25Orionshock?
23:47.29Wobwor1otherwise you wouldn't get articles like http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/79060-The-Escapist-Snags-1-Million-Visitors worded the way it was
23:48.02Wobwor1(to be totally offtopic, btw)
23:48.08Pkekyo|clinton showed his dick to a government clerk, and got thrown on his arse out of the white house...
23:48.08Pkekyo|george bush started WW3 on false premices (correct use of the word?) and manages to stay in the white house for -years- afterwards...
23:48.08Pkekyo|seems voters truly got their priorities straight :p
23:48.41Wobwor1premises
23:48.45Wobwor1I think?
23:49.00CIA-803adirelle * r56009 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua:
23:49.01CIA-8SimpleSelfRebuff:
23:49.01CIA-8- trackings : listen to MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING instead of PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED.
23:49.02Wobwor1I don't even know if it has that tense
23:49.08Pkekyo|Wobwor1: ofcourse...but zeropunctiation is so full of win and awesome
23:49.17Wobwor1Pkekyo|: This is very very true
23:49.44Wobwor1In fact, I think he is full of omg, win and awesome
23:49.51Pkekyo|best idea ever
23:50.32Pkekyo|which reminds me
23:50.37Pkekyo|haven't seen the latest edition
23:50.47Wobwor1It's a travelouge
23:51.16Wobwor1You get to see a photo of Yahtzee!
23:51.24Pkekyo|~dict travelouge
23:51.25Wobwor1(and see why his toon wears that hat)
23:51.34Wobwor1sort of a travel diary
23:51.35Pkekyo|elaborate plx?
23:51.40Wobwor1cause he went and visited Valve
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23:53.05Pkekyo|awesome
23:53.06Zhinjioso, our server's economy for "green" level gems is just utterly fucked.
23:53.09XinhuanThrae: ping
23:53.22Pkekyo|Zhinjio: green gems are utterly useless anyways
23:53.26Zhinjiobasically, if you can't sell the gem in the first 24 hour period in AH, its more cost effective to just vendor it.
23:53.31ThraeXinhuan: I'm not here right now
23:53.35Xinhuanare you sure
23:53.41ThraeYes, I'm AFK
23:53.47Xinhuananyway, someone found your !ap and !ar formulas wrong ;p
23:53.48Tehrockok, I can't login to the forums b/c it says I haven't confirmed my email, but I did, an it's not sending out another confirmation email
23:53.52Zhinjiosad, really
23:54.06LywellynGah, my WAU still isn't working ><
23:54.16Tehrockneed help with bartender3 :/
23:54.27Pkekyo|Zhinjio: you should just vendor them anyways
23:54.32ThraeXinhuan: What # did they try?
23:54.43Xinhuan!ap 2000
23:54.44ThraeBotXinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 801, 3v3: 928, 5v5: 1054
23:54.47Xinhuan!ar 1000
23:54.48ThraeBotXinhuan: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 2027, 3v3: 1991, 5v5: 1960
23:55.00Pkekyo|they don't add up
23:55.09Xinhuan1991 -> 1000 points, 2000 -> 928 points for 3v3s
23:55.13Xinhuanclearly inaccurate
23:55.25LywellynTehrock: I can try to help, maybe...hat's up?
23:55.33Lywellynwhat*
23:55.35Xinhuanthe issue is in your !ap formula for 3v3s and 2v2s
23:55.46Xinhuandouble check with !points and !rating :)
23:55.51Tehrockthe main bar isn't switching to the stealthbar and bearform/catform bars
23:56.08TehrockI just had to do a fresh install of windows so I had to replace everything
23:56.16LywellynOuch
23:56.20Tehrockit was working before, but for some reason it isn't now
23:56.50Tehrockand I can't tank on my druid w/o it
23:57.08LywellynIs it an option in the bar paging?
23:57.10Xinhuan[11/26 07:55:30] <Pkekyo|> Zhinjio: green gems are utterly useless anyways
23:57.14Xinhuanactually, as a JC
23:57.17Xinhuani convert them to rings
23:57.20Tehrockbar paging?
23:57.23Xinhuanand DE them as a disenchanter
23:57.27Xinhuanenchanter*
23:57.29LywellynOnly problem is that I don't have a druid, so I can't find out :(
23:57.38Xinhuanit turns out to be huge profit
23:58.01LywellynYeah, if I remember correctly, each bar has a paging feature.  That's the only lead I have though.
23:58.04Pkekyo|Xinhuan: on that rare case, it could be profitable...
23:58.04Xinhuansince 2 fel iron ore -> 1 bar + 2 green quality gems = 1 ring = 2-3 dust or 2-3 small planar essences
23:58.23Zhinjionice.
23:58.25Zhinjiogood point.
23:58.27Xinhuanso as part of my prospect 100-200 stacks of ore everyday
23:58.32Xinhuani also generate 50+ rings a day
23:58.38Xinhuanand huge amounts of dust/essences
23:58.39Zhinjiodamn, snoop.
23:58.58Xinhuanand the price of ore continues to fall (lol)
23:59.20Tehrockso any idea how to access this bar paging feature?
23:59.48ThraeOh, for 3v3 and 2v2

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