| 00:00.03 | buu | Probably, yes. |
| 00:00.04 | Xinhuan | what about if the GM did it himself |
| 00:00.06 | buu | Hard to say. |
| 00:00.12 | buu | I suspect it's a case by case basis. |
| 00:00.14 | Xinhuan | hence is there any such policy page? |
| 00:00.35 | buu | If the items or most of the items were originally his I doubt they would. |
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| 00:00.43 | buu | But I'd strongly suspect it's a per rep decision. |
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| 00:06.15 | aestil | Funkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/77908 |
| 00:06.33 | |Stan| | Library 'AceEvent-3.0' is not Embed capable <- O.o |
| 00:07.05 | |Stan| | nymbia: do you want my errors for the quartz branch version? |
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| 00:17.10 | Funkeh` | |Stan|, its not usable.. |
| 00:17.26 | Funkeh` | aestil, update |
| 00:17.48 | aestil | it was my wifes error. she claims to have updated. but i'll make her do it again. |
| 00:17.48 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: ah ok :) |
| 00:19.41 | silentium | kenlyric: for a more informative channel user list than the default one, have a look at ChanList and make sure to read the readme - looks beta-ish to me tho |
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| 00:44.37 | Ironhand | I notice that Ace addons that modify item tooltips (Mendeleev, Sanity, etc) only do so for mouseover tooltips, but not on tooltips from clicking item links... is there a way to have Ace-based tooltips show up in both, like Auctioneer does? |
| 00:46.15 | Xinhuan | clicking itemlinks show up in a different manner |
| 00:46.26 | Bejitt- | ratingbuster does that |
| 00:46.32 | Xinhuan | so, you will need to request each addon author to specifically hook it up |
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| 00:47.08 | Xinhuan | technical explanation: mouseover tooltips involve the GameTooltip frame, clicking itemlinks in chat involves the ItemRefTooltip frame |
| 00:47.13 | Xinhuan | 2 entirely different frames |
| 00:47.42 | CIA-8 | 03drool * r55806 10Nauticus/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:47.42 | CIA-8 | Nauticus: |
| 00:47.42 | CIA-8 | - remove specific filter strings; block by npc names instead |
| 00:47.53 | Ironhand | Xinhuan: do you have any idea how easy this would be for the addon author? can they simply hook the same function that's used for GameTooltip to ItemRefTooltip? |
| 00:47.59 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 00:48.09 | Xinhuan | but they need to manually add the support. |
| 00:48.37 | Xinhuan | even Gametooltip is difficult to support in itself, because it has 15 different methods for showing tooltips |
| 00:48.38 | Ironhand | yeah, I understand that - thanks, I'll see if I can convince anyone :-) |
| 00:48.41 | Xinhuan | and each one needs to be hooked separately |
| 00:50.13 | Xinhuan | of course, i'm partially wrong, since an author really only needs to hook :OnTooltipSetitem() |
| 00:50.15 | Xinhuan | but people are dumb |
| 00:50.29 | Xinhuan | and go ahead and hook the 15 different ways instead |
| 00:53.07 | Bejitt- | hmmm 250meg taintlog |
| 00:53.19 | Bejitt- | wonder what that means.. |
| 00:53.44 | Xinhuan | doesn't mean anything, it means you let taintLog 2 run for 2-3 hours. |
| 00:54.25 | jeramy | or 20 minutes |
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| 00:58.29 | Mujaffa^ | I have a few questions about Cartographer routes if anyone is abel to help me? |
| 00:58.34 | Xinhuan | sure |
| 00:59.26 | Mujaffa^ | When I'm trying to load data it says nothing can be found. Have Gatherer + Wowhead database loaded. |
| 00:59.48 | Xinhuan | cartographer_routes requires cartographer_mining/herbalism data |
| 00:59.50 | Xinhuan | not gatherer |
| 01:00.03 | Xinhuan | gatherer is not cartographer_mining/herbs |
| 01:00.09 | Xinhuan | 2 different competing addons |
| 01:00.13 | dylanm | Yeah those don't really talk to each other |
| 01:00.14 | Mujaffa^ | Ok, can that be found at files.wowace? |
| 01:00.38 | Xinhuan | you may also get wowhead data for cartographer_mining/herbs, they are found under cartographer_data |
| 01:01.03 | Xinhuan | you will want to disable/delete gatherer if you get these though, since they will possibly conflict |
| 01:01.20 | Mujaffa^ | I'll try it out |
| 01:01.22 | dylanm | Or just make your maps look really ugly |
| 01:03.32 | Mujaffa^ | Where can I find the wowhead database for cartographer, or is it included in Cartographer_data? |
| 01:04.02 | dylanm | That's all Cartographer_Data does I think |
| 01:05.10 | harldephin | what's with the blinking tooltip text in cartographer |
| 01:05.19 | Mujaffa^ | So I still need the cartographer_mining etc. files to make it work? |
| 01:08.37 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo * r55807 10Cartographer_Icons/Cartographer_Icons.toc: Cartographer_Icons: TOC version bump |
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| 01:14.49 | CIA-8 | 03pb_ee1 * r55808 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: All addons are now disabled before loading a set to prevent checked addons to remain checked. |
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| 01:16.04 | Mujaffa^ | Works ace now. Thank you! |
| 01:17.42 | Xinhuan | easy |
| 01:17.44 | Xinhuan | easily |
| 01:18.09 | Xinhuan | maybe i should update routes, too bad i'm busy :) |
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| 01:21.27 | Mujaffa^ | Any new project? |
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| 01:21.47 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: you know that tooltip bug I keep getting in BM while it's opening? it seems to be caused by hovering over an item in the BMwindow which has already been pulled into my bag. And may be a conflict with enhtooltip. |
| 01:22.52 | CIA-8 | 03pb_ee1 * r55809 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Now using self:DisableAll_OnClick() instead of DisableAllAddOns() when loading a new set. |
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| 01:24.38 | kenlyric | The XP that pets need to level has been reduced — from 25% to 16.75% |
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| 01:26.59 | kenlyric | since that outpaces the quest XP increase (25%), pets should level faster per level. |
| 01:28.22 | Mujaffa^ | about 5%? (no hardcore maths involved) |
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| 01:31.00 | kenlyric | if you're grinding them up, it's 33% per level. |
| 01:31.30 | CIA-8 | 03phanx * r55810 10CML/ (CML.toc cml.lua cmlOptions.lua): |
| 01:31.34 | CIA-8 | CML: |
| 01:31.36 | CIA-8 | - Please DO NOT make functional additions/changes to my addon without asking. Thanks. |
| 01:31.38 | CIA-8 | - Removed Stan's attempted embed of LibSharedMedia-2.0 -- it is intentionally supported but NOT required! |
| 01:31.40 | CIA-8 | - Fixed vertical alignment option |
| 01:31.42 | CIA-8 | - Fixed color options |
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| 01:36.21 | CIA-8 | 03nemes * r55811 10SuicideKings/SuicideKings.toc: |
| 01:36.23 | CIA-8 | SuicideKings: |
| 01:36.25 | CIA-8 | - TOC -> 2.3 |
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| 01:48.46 | CIA-8 | 03anxarces * r55812 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_DB.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 01:48.46 | CIA-8 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 01:48.48 | CIA-8 | -Fixed errors in PB_DB.lua. Something went wrong while uploading. Sorry for any inconvenience. |
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| 02:11.42 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r55813 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 02:11.42 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:11.44 | CIA-8 | - Remove excessive PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event handling. Threat should now just PEW, rather than PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW. |
| 02:11.56 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 02:12.28 | |Stan| | lol |
| 02:12.29 | CIA-8 | 03antiarc * r55814 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 02:12.29 | CIA-8 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:12.29 | CIA-8 | - Remove debug statements because I'm a retard and left them in |
| 02:12.32 | Antiarc | So. AuraMap. |
| 02:12.43 | Antiarc | It calls "this:UnregisterEvent("PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED") |
| 02:12.56 | Antiarc | But the code path is such that this == _G["AceEvent20Frame"] |
| 02:12.58 | Antiarc | Yeeeeah. |
| 02:13.09 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 02:13.15 | Antiarc | Borks every mod that uses AceEvent to register PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED, Omen included. |
| 02:13.26 | Ellipsis | and now it all makes sense. kinda. |
| 02:13.46 | Xinhuan | so fix auramap? |
| 02:13.56 | Antiarc | I posted the info to the author |
| 02:14.41 | Antiarc | botmail for sag_ich_nicht: Found the bug and alerted the author, thanks! |
| 02:14.47 | Antiarc | ~botmail for sag_ich_nicht: Found the bug and alerted the author, thanks! |
| 02:15.11 | Ellipsis | he's gonna be so happy |
| 02:15.27 | Ellipsis | and by happy I mean he's going to stop trolling for like a full 10 minutes |
| 02:15.36 | |Stan| | 2.. |
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| 02:22.08 | aestil | i don't really like ZA, am i the only one? |
| 02:22.53 | Keias | It's ok |
| 02:23.06 | Keias | Better than karazhan |
| 02:23.17 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55815 10nQuestLog/ (7 files in 6 dirs): |
| 02:23.17 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog: |
| 02:23.17 | CIA-8 | --Update zhCN Local (finished) |
| 02:24.04 | Antiarc | I haven't been in ZA yet, unfortunately |
| 02:24.15 | FireAllianceNX | I'm not a big fan either |
| 02:25.41 | Antiarc | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/5648/#comment_310565 <-- vote up plz thx |
| 02:25.51 | Antiarc | Go go Ace2 mafia. Fly, my pretties, fly. |
| 02:26.03 | Kalroth | haha |
| 02:26.09 | Kalroth | I'm so going to vote you down! |
| 02:26.15 | Antiarc | ;____; |
| 02:26.51 | Kalroth | oh, it's a shit addon anyways |
| 02:26.52 | [AR]Camci | lawl |
| 02:27.13 | [AR]Camci | i dont get what it does |
| 02:27.25 | Antiarc | It puts circles on your minimap to show aura ranges |
| 02:27.29 | Antiarc | Like if you'er a paladin or whatever |
| 02:27.31 | Kalroth | Yes |
| 02:28.27 | [AR]Camci | oh well |
| 02:33.12 | FireAllianceNX | that's pretty useful |
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| 02:54.26 | ulic | is there a way to destroy a frame? that is make it exists no longer? |
| 02:55.09 | Xinhuan | no |
| 02:55.15 | Xinhuan | once created, they exist until reloadui |
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| 02:56.19 | Kivin | anyone know off hand what naming convention eepanels2 uses for it's panel frames? |
| 02:56.41 | Ellipsis | eePanel1, etc.? |
| 02:57.05 | Kivin | heh, figures... |
| 02:57.14 | Kivin | i (hoped) it had something to do with the panel name in the config |
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| 03:09.24 | kenlyric | so what happened with being able to scan the AH all at once? |
| 03:09.54 | Xinhuan | disabled on servers |
| 03:10.10 | Xinhuan | because on realms with a large AH, using it causes client disconnects |
| 03:10.22 | Xinhuan | reenabled in future patch |
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| 03:13.14 | RogueShadow | mm.. miss that. got to use it like once. |
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| 03:23.58 | Tinyboom | anyone know of a way to hotfix pitbull from showingparty in pvp-raids? driving me nuts.... and it's fine in pve-raids.... |
| 03:26.58 | ulic | you mean like battle grounds? |
| 03:27.23 | ulic | in "Raid->other" there are some options for which battle grounds to show in. |
| 03:27.56 | ulic | like don't care for 40 frames in AB, but in WSG and the little ones I like to see. |
| 03:30.55 | aestil | i wish grid was smart about the size of raid frame needed. |
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| 03:31.11 | aestil | is there a module that makes that adjustment based on the raid instance you zone into? |
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| 03:42.27 | CIA-8 | 03whitetooth * r55816 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 03:42.30 | CIA-8 | StatLogicLib: |
| 03:42.32 | CIA-8 | - Added deDE DualStatPatterns |
| 03:42.57 | aestil | clearly, such a thing must not exist. |
| 03:44.11 | Ellipsis | there used to be one |
| 03:44.20 | Ellipsis | not sure if it still exists |
| 03:44.20 | aestil | what did you do with it? |
| 03:44.24 | Ellipsis | I ate it |
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| 04:13.50 | aestil | i'll eat you. |
| 04:13.59 | Ellipsis | k |
| 04:14.48 | aestil | you'd like that wouldn't you! |
| 04:15.01 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 04:15.03 | Mudkipz | o_o |
| 04:15.07 | aestil | freaking dragonhawk boss in ZA. is he hard? |
| 04:15.15 | Ellipsis | are you asking me? |
| 04:15.35 | Mudkipz | aestil, 90% execution 10% skill |
| 04:15.44 | Ellipsis | ^welcome to PvE |
| 04:15.57 | Mudkipz | no really |
| 04:16.13 | Mudkipz | dragonhawk is only as hard as you make it |
| 04:16.32 | Megalon | as are so many bosses in wow |
| 04:16.37 | Megalon | and so many people fail at them |
| 04:16.40 | Megalon | >.< |
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| 04:24.03 | aestil | how many eggs should we let them pop? |
| 04:24.03 | aestil | someone is saying that you have to let a certain amount pop? |
| 04:24.03 | Fin | what was krka's addon called again, the one that let you set paths and walk them automatically? |
| 04:24.13 | dylanm_ | Uh this is an old thing right |
| 04:24.42 | Fin | yes |
| 04:25.06 | Fin | autosummat |
| 04:25.27 | Gagorian | aestil: As many as you can handle at a time |
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| 04:25.45 | Gagorian | Then the rest pops when you bring him down |
| 04:25.59 | aestil | oh, i see. |
| 04:25.59 | Gagorian | So generally, two hatchings, then bring him down and kill the rest that pops. |
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| 04:29.21 | Mudkipz | [20:28:19] ‹ aestil › how many eggs should we let them pop? |
| 04:29.25 | Mudkipz | all depends on the tank I guess |
| 04:29.47 | Mudkipz | I'm comfortable with around 1-3 pops |
| 04:29.56 | Mudkipz | and I'm not sure how many hawks that is |
| 04:30.06 | Mudkipz | but they increase with each pop |
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| 04:36.21 | CIA-8 | 03sekuyo * r55817 10Cartographer_Icons_MetaMapPack/Cartographer_Icons_MetaMapPack.toc: Cartographer_Icons_MetaMapPack: TOC version bump |
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| 04:37.53 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2007-11-23_kenlyric.jpg thank goodness back under 20fps. I was getting dizzy at 30! |
| 04:39.34 | Lukian | lol kenlyric |
| 04:39.36 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, is there any FuBar plugin that you *don't* have installed? |
| 04:39.42 | kenlyric | several |
| 04:39.48 | Tinyboom | kenlyric: lol, then my setup would make you pass out, steady@60fps:p |
| 04:39.48 | kenlyric | in the early days I had 3 bars |
| 04:40.03 | RogueShadow | i'm happy to get 20fps myself. New computer is planned, but not affordable yet. |
| 04:40.19 | RogueShadow | but that's just anywhere, shattrath is another story |
| 04:40.35 | Ellipsis | I'm rockin' 19.2 in SMV right now |
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| 04:42.24 | kenlyric | in fact several of the mod configuration icons are disabled. Only the ones I fiddle with every day are still up there. |
| 04:42.29 | kenlyric | I loves me some fubars infos |
| 04:42.36 | Gagorian | Your HP calls for a oneshot |
| 04:42.38 | Gagorian | :c |
| 04:42.49 | Ellipsis | needs moar squishy! |
| 04:43.07 | kenlyric | that's epic hp |
| 04:43.22 | kenlyric | it went up 250 in the past few days |
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| 04:47.12 | kenlyric | and of course I have my trusty 910 HP from trinkets for those emergency cases. |
| 04:47.13 | aestil | dragonhawk is the first interseting ZA fight. |
| 04:49.46 | CIA-8 | 03phanx * r55819 10OnScreenHealth/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:49.50 | CIA-8 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 04:49.52 | CIA-8 | - New text formatting system - see README.TXT for details |
| 04:49.54 | CIA-8 | - Moved options to their own file |
| 04:49.56 | CIA-8 | - Added support for LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 04:49.58 | CIA-8 | - Dropped support for SharedMediaLib (1.0) |
| 04:50.00 | CIA-8 | - Bumped TOC number |
| 04:52.37 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* translators shouldnt bump tocs.... http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/EQCompare |
| 04:54.45 | Kivin | Anyone mind sharing some wisdom with me regarding DogTag-1.0 |
| 04:55.59 | Tinyboom | just wow.... http://www.ancient-heroes.net/files/wsg2_483.jpg | http://www.ancient-heroes.net/files/wsg1_137.jpg |
| 04:56.17 | Tinyboom | as non pvp mage that feels so weird:p |
| 04:57.19 | Tinyboom | time to sleep finally |
| 04:57.51 | Arrowmaster | im going to be an ass |
| 04:58.14 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r55820 10FuBar_MCPFu/FuBar_MCPFu.lua: FuBar_MCPFu: Remove LoadAddOn() hook. Tainting this function is a big nono. |
| 04:58.16 | Arrowmaster | but ive yet to decide how much of an ass to be |
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| 05:00.14 | CIA-8 | 03xinhuan * r55821 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Add slash command /bigb and BankItems Guild Bank frame creation stuff. |
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| 05:03.10 | Arrowmaster | so should i just be an ass or should i be a total and complete ass with this commit? |
| 05:03.33 | Xinhuan | wha? |
| 05:03.40 | Diao | #2 is good |
| 05:04.02 | Arrowmaster | k |
| 05:06.11 | CIA-8 | 03arrowmaster * r55822 10EQCompare/EQCompare.toc: EQCompare: reverting TOC bumps since this addon never really got updated for 2.x, ffs switch to something better and updated like tekKompare |
| 05:06.24 | CIA-8 | 03phanx * r55823 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (GridStatusHealingReduced.toc ReadMe.txt): |
| 05:06.25 | CIA-8 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 05:06.27 | CIA-8 | - TOC 20300 |
| 05:06.29 | CIA-8 | - Updated readme |
| 05:07.19 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/EQCompare/EQCompare.toc?r1=55403&r2=55822 |
| 05:07.34 | Bejitt- | holy crap |
| 05:07.40 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 05:07.45 | Ellipsis | that's one way to do it |
| 05:08.03 | Arrowmaster | -9100! |
| 05:09.05 | Arrowmaster | over 9000 negative toc bump! |
| 05:09.44 | Xinhuan | i'm supposed to update wowequip to be EQCompare compatible lolz |
| 05:09.54 | Arrowmaster | no your not |
| 05:10.06 | Ellipsis | make it compatible with the default UI compare tooltip |
| 05:10.13 | Arrowmaster | it already is |
| 05:10.13 | Xinhuan | it already is actually Ellipsis |
| 05:10.20 | Arrowmaster | tekKompare works fine with it |
| 05:10.22 | Ellipsis | well that's enough for me |
| 05:12.01 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 05:12.13 | Xinhuan | should i save contents of gbank on bankframe open |
| 05:12.16 | Xinhuan | or bankframe close |
| 05:12.50 | Arrowmaster | neither |
| 05:13.37 | Lukian | Xinhuan, close |
| 05:14.01 | Lukian | on open: *puts items in the bank* *closes it* , oh where'd I put that? |
| 05:14.10 | Diao | lol |
| 05:14.21 | Xinhuan | currently, i save bank items on open and on changes, mail items on close, and inventory items on "next frame" |
| 05:15.03 | Xinhuan | so even if 40 bag events fire in the same frame, i only save them once on the next frame |
| 05:15.08 | Lukian | Xinhuan, I don't mind, I usually end up opening my bags/bank/gbank a 2nd time to ensure data is saved |
| 05:15.31 | Xinhuan | guess i'll take a look at the event api for gbanks first |
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| 05:16.42 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 05:17.25 | Xinhuan | GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED event isn't even used in the Blizzard_GuildBank_UI |
| 05:17.53 | Xinhuan | appears its in UIParent.lua |
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| 05:34.42 | aestil | man, healing through that spell pushback on malacrass is crazy. |
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| 05:44.40 | Xinhuan | is your own guild's infomation available on VARIABLES_LOADED event? or only after PEW |
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| 05:54.48 | Xinhuan | quiet. |
| 05:54.55 | Antiarc | no u |
| 05:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | a little /too/ quiet. |
| 05:55.17 | Antiarc | I'm working on writing a disintegrating recursive relevance weighting algorithm |
| 05:55.22 | Antiarc | My brain hurts too much to chat |
| 05:55.34 | NightHawkTheSane | my brain hurts a little just reading that |
| 05:55.40 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: even later i think |
| 05:55.40 | Antiarc | s/disintegrating/deteriorating/ |
| 05:55.48 | Shirik | was about to say :P |
| 05:55.56 | Antiarc | See, brain hurtage. |
| 05:56.08 | Antiarc | But I just had a half pot of coffee and a half a pizza |
| 05:56.11 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 05:56.15 | Antiarc | So we'll see if I can kick it back on here. |
| 05:56.24 | Shirik | I want to see a disintegrating algorithm |
| 05:56.31 | Shirik | slowly the code dissolves into nothing |
| 05:56.31 | Antiarc | The best thing about the holidays? Coffee cut with eggnog rather than cream. |
| 05:57.05 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure this algorithm is going to murderize my database in a most horrible fashion |
| 05:57.13 | Antiarc | But I guess make it work first, then make it fast. |
| 05:57.32 | Shirik | always the best way to go :) |
| 05:59.05 | Antiarc | Mmm. I think I can make it O(n^5) rather than O(n^5^5) if I do it with multiple passes rather than in one go. |
| 05:59.09 | Antiarc | Buuuuut yeah. |
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| 05:59.16 | Shirik | rofl |
| 05:59.20 | Shirik | O(n^25) ?? |
| 05:59.23 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 05:59.27 | Antiarc | Yes. |
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| 05:59.31 | Shirik | ow. |
| 05:59.32 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 05:59.35 | Xinhuan | what's the algo for? |
| 05:59.38 | sag_ich_nicht | hey Antiarc |
| 05:59.38 | Xinhuan | this* |
| 05:59.40 | sag_ich_nicht | how the hell |
| 05:59.41 | Xinhuan | homework? |
| 05:59.44 | sag_ich_nicht | did he break threat-1.0 |
| 05:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 05:59.46 | Antiarc | Nah, business thing |
| 05:59.58 | Xinhuan | so if n is 3 |
| 05:59.59 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: He unregistered PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED from the AceEvent event handling frame |
| 06:00.03 | Xinhuan | lua> 3^25 |
| 06:00.10 | Xinhuan | err |
| 06:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 06:00.12 | Xinhuan | 847288609443 |
| 06:00.15 | Antiarc | So that all AceEvent-using mods no longer get PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED events |
| 06:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | that explains |
| 06:00.22 | sag_ich_nicht | a LOT |
| 06:00.35 | NightHawkTheSane | who broke threat? |
| 06:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | AuraMap addon |
| 06:00.46 | Antiarc | The algorithm is used to compute weights of certain items in a social network based off a number of factors, Xuerian |
| 06:01.01 | Xuerian | who what where |
| 06:01.05 | Antiarc | Err |
| 06:01.06 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: |
| 06:01.07 | Antiarc | Sorry |
| 06:01.20 | Antiarc | So I'm looking at deteriorating weights at multiple degrees of separation from a person in a social graph |
| 06:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | you two need more distinguishable names. |
| 06:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: well at least we now know why you couldn't reproduce it |
| 06:01.36 | Antiarc | You two are both just "four-letter name person whose name begins with X" to me |
| 06:01.44 | Antiarc | I just hit X-tab and let the dice fall where they may |
| 06:01.48 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: Yup. |
| 06:01.50 | Xinhuan | meh, have fun with that ;p |
| 06:02.07 | Antiarc | Thanks for tracking down the addon. I was able to just go in and hack on it till I found the cause. |
| 06:02.08 | Xuerian | har har :p |
| 06:02.27 | Antiarc | And I meant seven-letter-names-that-start-with-X |
| 06:02.36 | Antiarc | Man, I need some chocolate espresso beans or something |
| 06:02.39 | Antiarc | Brain jumper cables. |
| 06:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: i do the same, of course, x-chat lets me just tab through the list of names. |
| 06:03.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: the whole addon code is quite disgusting tho |
| 06:03.15 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: It's pretty obvious he doesn't understand the Ace2 setup |
| 06:03.15 | NightHawkTheSane | the problem is if i'm not actually paying attention, Xinhuan and Xuerian look very similar |
| 06:03.19 | Antiarc | but uses it anyway, and breaks it :P |
| 06:05.57 | Antiarc | Gyaaaaah |
| 06:06.00 | Antiarc | My head hurts |
| 06:06.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:03] <+Antiarc> sag_ich_nicht: It's pretty obvious he doesn't understand Lua and the WoW API <--fixed. |
| 06:07.04 | Antiarc | Nodes with nodes, each node pair has a relative weight on its edge, and then I'm looking at node hierarchies 5 levels from the orginal node. Each node considers four factors, two of which require an additional query to the DB. |
| 06:07.11 | Shirik | well this is true for about 50% of the addon community sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:07.14 | Shirik | sad, but true |
| 06:07.20 | Antiarc | This is going to be insanely ugly and there's no friggin' way it's happening in anything resembling realtime. |
| 06:07.49 | Shirik | hey now |
| 06:07.58 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. anyone here willing to rewrite perfectraid so it shows percent instead of hp? :/ i'm too dumb to do it :X |
| 06:08.08 | Shirik | realtime isn't defined by the time it takes, only by the accuracy of deadlines it meets |
| 06:08.24 | Shirik | for something that needs to be accurate to within 60 seconds, realtime can be 59 seconds of processing time :) |
| 06:08.42 | Antiarc | Realtime in this case is the context of an HTTP request :P |
| 06:08.50 | Shirik | ha! Something I actually learned in my RT class. |
| 06:08.57 | Shirik | Oh, then it probably has to be a bit faster than 60 seconds |
| 06:09.01 | Antiarc | My goal is no more than 3 sec for any given request under 75% hardware load |
| 06:09.02 | Xinhuan | so maybe, you should consider 1 factor instead of 4 factors per node ;p |
| 06:09.20 | Antiarc | Well, just one factor isn't going to give me the data I need |
| 06:09.29 | Antiarc | It's not the factors per node that's the problem, really |
| 06:09.46 | Shirik | btw |
| 06:09.47 | Antiarc | It's the recursion down into node relationships, and the potential overlap that has to be dealt with. |
| 06:09.47 | Shirik | FYI |
| 06:09.56 | Shirik | Installing Visual Studio 2008 over a wireless connection takes forever |
| 06:09.59 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 06:10.01 | Antiarc | Yes it does |
| 06:10.03 | Shirik | for anyone whom might have ever thought it would be funny to try |
| 06:10.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: well, thanks for dashing my weekend entertainment plans |
| 06:10.23 | Xinhuan | i like how 2008 software is available when we aren't in 2008 yet :) |
| 06:10.36 | Shirik | I forgot about it 6 hours ago when I started installing it and then went into WoW |
| 06:10.44 | Shirik | just recently remembered and checked it, yeah it's still going |
| 06:11.09 | Shirik | granted it is nearing the end, but still |
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| 06:13.10 | Antiarc | Oh damn this problem. |
| 06:13.20 | Antiarc | I'm not going to know edge weights initially |
| 06:13.33 | Antiarc | So I have to compute the graph, then the edge weights, then recompute the graph with the edge weights. |
| 06:13.43 | Antiarc | afk, seppuku |
| 06:14.31 | Shirik | how big is the graph? And what kind of graph are you generating, a spanning tree? |
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| 06:17.28 | Shirik | whoooo |
| 06:17.34 | Shirik | Holy Priest vs Warlock |
| 06:17.36 | Shirik | Holy Priest wins |
| 06:17.40 | Shirik | raiding specced holy priest :P |
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| 06:19.17 | CIA-8 | 03quagmire * r55824 10nQuestLog/ (19 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:19.19 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog |
| 06:19.21 | CIA-8 | - Minor code cleanup |
| 06:19.23 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog:Comments |
| 06:19.25 | CIA-8 | - Changed default frame height, width, and scale |
| 06:19.27 | CIA-8 | - Localize all unlocalized strings |
| 06:19.29 | CIA-8 | - Add XP percentage |
| 06:21.14 | Silowyi | ok so |
| 06:21.24 | Silowyi | our prot warriors can't kill their demons on Leotheras |
| 06:21.28 | Silowyi | so they have me, feral druid tank |
| 06:21.39 | Silowyi | and the prot warriors all wear fury/ms gear, lol |
| 06:21.53 | starlon | our guild does the same |
| 06:22.08 | Silowyi | Of all the reasons to have a feral druid tank though I find that the funniest |
| 06:22.19 | Silowyi | but hell, it works :) |
| 06:22.54 | starlon | ferals tank TW as well, due to their high hp pools |
| 06:23.00 | starlon | (in my guild) |
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| 06:23.14 | Antiarc | The graph doesn't have a limited size, in theory |
| 06:23.29 | Silowyi | I've MTed literally everything up to Kael and Vashj |
| 06:23.39 | Silowyi | but not either of them ^_^ |
| 06:23.56 | starlon | we use feral druids alot |
| 06:24.24 | Silowyi | hunter, druid, rogue, warrior, shaman dps group is funsauce |
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| 06:41.25 | CIA-8 | 03egingell * r55825 10XRayVision/XRayVision.toc: |
| 06:41.25 | CIA-8 | XRayVision: |
| 06:41.26 | CIA-8 | - Updated TOC |
| 06:41.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan, or Xuerian, i forgot which of you it was, but one of you linked me to a good druid loot list site, can you link me again? |
| 06:41.39 | Xinhuan | wasn't me |
| 06:42.04 | Xuerian | Emmerald's list, it doesn't have gear from 2.3 though |
| 06:42.04 | Xuerian | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald |
| 06:42.20 | Xuerian | Ps. Get idol of terror. |
| 06:42.31 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks |
| 06:47.01 | NightHawkTheSane | (its for a druid tank in my guild, not me :P) |
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| 07:00.34 | Wobin | http://roblogger.com/1067/alien-abduction-video |
| 07:03.06 | CIA-8 | 03hshh * r55826 10CooldownCount/CooldownCount.lua: CooldownCount: optimize blacklist processing |
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| 07:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: that changelog note for commit 55813 is lol |
| 07:27.51 | Antiarc | which is that? |
| 07:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW |
| 07:28.01 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 07:28.05 | Antiarc | Yes, that amused me |
| 07:28.21 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0 was firing of the PEW handler every time you changed targets (depricated code acting up there) |
| 07:28.25 | Antiarc | So it was all PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW |
| 07:28.29 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 07:28.34 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 07:28.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme guess you found that when you looked up what auramap was doing? :P |
| 07:29.00 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 07:29.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah me |
| 07:30.04 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55827 10BigBrother/localization_zhTW.lua: |
| 07:30.04 | CIA-8 | BigBrother: |
| 07:30.05 | CIA-8 | - added zhTW localization string. |
| 07:30.25 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55828 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2-zhTW.lua: |
| 07:30.25 | CIA-8 | Buffalo2: |
| 07:30.27 | CIA-8 | - added zhTW localization string. |
| 07:30.29 | sag_ich_nicht | now i need the tainting left in my interface fixed and i can start reporting actual bugs |
| 07:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 07:30.45 | Ellipsis | and how we're all looking forward to that |
| 07:31.24 | Ellipsis | "is it fixed yet?" "how about now?" "did you fix my bug?" |
| 07:31.24 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 07:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | if it's an actual BUG and not some design error i'm mostly capable of fixing it myself :P |
| 07:32.11 | Ellipsis | uh huh |
| 07:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (and in my opinion, tainting is nothing more than design errors on the author side :P) |
| 07:32.34 | Ellipsis | or Blizzard's |
| 07:32.51 | sag_ich_nicht | meh, true, but in 9/10 cases it's the authors fault |
| 07:33.21 | sag_ich_nicht | now someone tell me why taint.log claims autodnd is causing taint |
| 07:33.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't get it |
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| 07:35.55 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55829 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhTW.lua: |
| 07:35.55 | CIA-8 | ClassTimer: |
| 07:35.55 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization string. |
| 07:36.57 | Xinhuan | it hooks something it shouldn't have |
| 07:37.37 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 07:37.49 | sag_ich_nicht | is the fontsize selection in WoW px or pt |
| 07:37.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 07:38.06 | Orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: try uping the taing log to 2 |
| 07:38.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock: 488 folders in my addons folder |
| 07:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i think not |
| 07:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | especially since i dunno yet how to reproduce that taint message |
| 07:39.03 | Orionshock | ok... |
| 07:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | if i enable taintlog 2, it will grow to 2-4 MB :P |
| 07:39.36 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: it's... its own system |
| 07:39.41 | Shirik | kinda px, but not really |
| 07:39.48 | Shirik | much like width and height are their own system |
| 07:39.55 | Orionshock | so your problem isn't that you have 488 mods, it's that you don't know how to reproduce the error |
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| 07:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: *sigh* |
| 07:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i need 16 px fontsize, so tell me what the damn right fontsize in WoW is then :P |
| 07:41.24 | Shirik | sorry I can't be more help :P |
| 07:41.32 | Shirik | see that's the problem |
| 07:41.37 | Shirik | what resolution are you talkin about? |
| 07:41.41 | sag_ich_nicht | 1680x1050 |
| 07:41.45 | Shirik | what about UI scale? |
| 07:41.51 | Shirik | Will you ever stretch the screen? |
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| 07:42.04 | Shirik | all of these play into it :) |
| 07:42.16 | Shirik | and now you see why sizing is such a PITA for frames |
| 07:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | 0.69999998807907 |
| 07:42.50 | Shirik | I'm not going to go test it for you, sorry >< my only point was to show why it's so hard to come up with the answer |
| 07:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | also what you mean with strech the screen? it's just my ChatFrameN font :P |
| 07:43.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you sooooooo are going to test it now since you started asking |
| 07:43.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ~punch Shirik |
| 07:43.11 | purl | ACTION hits Shirik like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 07:43.11 | Shirik | I mean quite literally will you ever stretch the screen |
| 07:43.14 | Shirik | make it bigger, etc. |
| 07:43.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not really. |
| 07:43.23 | Antiarc | Blah. I think I'm going to have to finally turn on the heat. :( |
| 07:43.43 | Antiarc | It's dropping into the low 50s |
| 07:43.47 | Antiarc | My toes are cold :( |
| 07:43.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just about the fontsize in chatframe1 not frames in general :/ fixedsys excelsior looks like SHIT with anything but 16 px |
| 07:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i think 12 is about right, but maybe i'm wrong :/ |
| 07:44.11 | sag_ich_nicht | because it looks a tiny bit blurry |
| 07:44.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ooooooh |
| 07:44.24 | sag_ich_nicht | cop out |
| 07:44.26 | Shirik|zZz | night :) have fun with that |
| 07:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | bad Shirik |
| 07:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Shirik|zZz |
| 07:44.31 | purl | changes Shirik|zZz's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 07:44.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ...pwnt |
| 07:45.30 | Diao | wear socks Antiarc :P |
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| 07:49.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
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| 07:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | -release +build |
| 07:52.00 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2542.msg160780#msg160780 |
| 07:52.06 | Arrowmaster | ^^ not drama k |
| 07:54.22 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: Still not much to look at :/ |
| 07:54.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm debating over what to do with events |
| 07:54.41 | Shirik|Ecole | if I should just trash it in preparation for 2.4, or leave it in there to show what the API will look like |
| 07:55.14 | sag_ich_nicht | trash it |
| 07:55.17 | sag_ich_nicht | not worth the effor |
| 07:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | t |
| 07:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bawwwwwwwwwwww that's not even worth a flame Arrowmaster |
| 07:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | that's just boring |
| 07:55.49 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 07:55.54 | Arrowmaster | not drama |
| 07:56.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: do me a favor? :X |
| 07:56.36 | Shirik|Ecole | this should be good... |
| 07:56.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: take a look at OpenRDX and tell them what's broken with their window wizard |
| 07:56.44 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 07:56.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I assume it's built on RDX 6? |
| 07:57.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes :X |
| 07:57.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I haven't even looked at RDX 6, I doubt I could be of much use |
| 07:57.24 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | wait lemme show you a screenshot |
| 07:58.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.openrdx.com/wiki/Image:WoWScrnShot_111807_083826.jpg |
| 07:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd use OpenRDX/RDX6 until Conspiracy comes out instead of RDX.Cid, but that bug is preventing me from doing so :X |
| 08:00.16 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 08:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure that's triggered from a bug in VFL that I'm aware of |
| 08:00.27 | Arrowmaster | ROFL http://www.openrdx.com/wiki/Image:Af_raid.jpg |
| 08:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: told you :P |
| 08:00.39 | Arrowmaster | is that grid with an rdx border |
| 08:00.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't know how to fix it, sag_ich_nicht :) |
| 08:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 08:00.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm just saying |
| 08:01.03 | sag_ich_nicht | well you could tell them what and where the bug is :P |
| 08:01.05 | Shirik|Ecole | remember when I was trying to explain why fonts are hard to determine? |
| 08:01.21 | Shirik|Ecole | VFL tends to ignore that fact :) |
| 08:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah :P |
| 08:01.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: that's RDX6 completely emulating grid |
| 08:01.35 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 08:01.37 | Arrowmaster | fail |
| 08:01.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I would like to point out RDX.Cid never had anything remotely close to that -_- |
| 08:01.52 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway |
| 08:02.03 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: The other possibility is a bug in VFL where everything gets set to scale 1.2 |
| 08:02.08 | Shirik|Ecole | have them check the scaling factor |
| 08:02.24 | Shirik|Ecole | we had to recreate our own framepool system in RDX.Cid. |
| 08:02.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: not really, it's done because otherwise all of RDX6 sync code is wasted, it's more effective to just emulate grid in RDX6 instead, redundant code ftl |
| 08:03.21 | sag_ich_nicht | someone wanted RDX6 functionality but with grid look, so they got it :P |
| 08:03.25 | Arrowmaster | i find rdx to be the redundant code |
| 08:03.48 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should take a look at the RDX code before spouting that around :P |
| 08:05.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:02] <+Shirik|Ecole> sag_ich_nicht: The other possibility is a bug in VFL where everything gets set to scale 1.2 <--you go tell that fridgid >.> |
| 08:05.47 | Shirik|Ecole | meh, I'm busy working on a C++ tool that will be assisting Conspiracy developers :) |
| 08:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *sigh* |
| 08:05.55 | Shirik|Ecole | and trying to go to sleep |
| 08:06.01 | sag_ich_nicht | guess i'll have to stab cidan |
| 08:06.12 | CIA-8 | 03aviana * r55830 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 08:06.12 | CIA-8 | Numen: |
| 08:06.12 | CIA-8 | - Implemented the position save fix from the forums |
| 08:07.03 | Shirik|Ecole | be my guest :D |
| 08:07.07 | Shirik|Ecole | he probably deserves it |
| 08:07.16 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 08:10.35 | Fisker- | noooes |
| 08:10.38 | Fisker- | no sg:a :( |
| 08:10.39 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55831 10Decursive/localization.tw.lua: |
| 08:10.39 | CIA-8 | Decursive: |
| 08:10.40 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization string. |
| 08:10.51 | Arrowmaster | hmm its cold |
| 08:11.08 | Fisker- | you are cold :( |
| 08:11.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf is that suppost to mean? |
| 08:11.58 | nevcairiel | that he likes you |
| 08:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 08:12.03 | sag_ich_nicht | why no sg:a? |
| 08:12.05 | sag_ich_nicht | thanksgiving? |
| 08:12.10 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 08:12.13 | nevcairiel | stupid holidays |
| 08:12.15 | sag_ich_nicht | DAMN YOU, THANKSGIVING, DAMN YOU |
| 08:12.23 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:12.30 | Fisker- | who would't spend their thanksgiving watching SG:A? |
| 08:12.49 | Ellipsis | people who don't like that stupid show >_> |
| 08:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | DIAF SG:A is awesome |
| 08:13.18 | nevcairiel | SG1 was better tho |
| 08:13.21 | sag_ich_nicht | true |
| 08:13.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and now |
| 08:13.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i |
| 08:13.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *i'll finish this super mario galaxy level |
| 08:13.43 | sag_ich_nicht | that i wanted to finish BEFORE my ZA raid started |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ok someone's making fun of me on this search function I wrote |
| 08:13.59 | Shirik|Ecole | which takes two parameters: needle and haystack |
| 08:13.59 | Orionshock | Q: Vaj for phase 2, what do rogues do? |
| 08:14.04 | Shirik|Ecole | were these inappropriately named? >< |
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| 08:14.13 | Orionshock | *vashj |
| 08:14.21 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: dps the elite nagas |
| 08:14.40 | durcyn | RaydenUni: touch themselves in appropriately. |
| 08:14.45 | durcyn | er Orionshock even |
| 08:14.59 | nevcairiel | Shirik|Ecole: i wouldnt think so, i named then needle and haystack in some search wrapper too |
| 08:15.05 | Orionshock | durcyn: ? |
| 08:15.06 | Arrowmaster | finaly i get to use my new slanket |
| 08:15.20 | durcyn | Orionshock: comedy, sir, or at least a botched attempt at it |
| 08:15.22 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht shouldn't we kill nevcairiel? |
| 08:15.25 | Shirik|Ecole | good :P |
| 08:15.26 | Wobin | Shirik|Ecole: only if you search for the haystack within the needle |
| 08:15.29 | Shirik|Ecole | at least someone agrees with me |
| 08:15.42 | Shirik|Ecole | ~lart Wobin |
| 08:15.42 | purl | pries Wobin's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Wobin |
| 08:15.43 | durcyn | Orionshock: anyway, melee on p2 should kill nagas, as well as handle any elementlas that get to the platform |
| 08:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: i'm all for it, but then otoh he MIGHT rewrite BT some time |
| 08:15.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and now |
| 08:15.47 | sag_ich_nicht | SMG |
| 08:15.49 | sag_ich_nicht | afk |
| 08:16.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't want to call them "string1" and "string2" >.> |
| 08:16.18 | Fisker- | we could always just cut of his legs and staple him to his chair |
| 08:16.20 | Arrowmaster | smg? |
| 08:16.24 | nevcairiel | yay first time manalicous quest |
| 08:16.31 | Fisker- | i hate it nevcairiel :I |
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| 08:16.45 | Arrowmaster | got the demon quest for the first time today |
| 08:17.07 | Fisker- | finally begun to get the "soup for the soul" quest |
| 08:17.07 | Arrowmaster | had manalicous for the past few days |
| 08:17.08 | nevcairiel | i had demon like 90% last week |
| 08:17.09 | Ellipsis | I still haven't gotten the demon one :( |
| 08:17.32 | Arrowmaster | damn these sleaves are big |
| 08:18.13 | Arrowmaster | like really really big |
| 08:19.18 | CIA-8 | 03quagmire * r55832 10nQuestLog/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:19.20 | CIA-8 | nQuestLog:nQuestLogFuBar.lua |
| 08:19.22 | CIA-8 | - Minor change so that standby option shows up properly on GUI menus |
| 08:20.12 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> return string.byte('A'), string.byte('a'); |
| 08:20.31 | Funkeh` | fail? |
| 08:20.38 | nevcairiel | lua_bot> hi |
| 08:20.39 | Shirik|Ecole | just had to go to a different channel |
| 08:20.42 | Shirik|Ecole | but yes, indeed fail. |
| 08:20.53 | Shirik|Ecole | lua bot I think is still broken from earlier |
| 08:21.02 | Arrowmaster | somebody broke it? |
| 08:21.06 | Shirik|Ecole | yeh |
| 08:21.12 | Funkeh` | told it it was fat |
| 08:22.03 | Fisker- | it is |
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| 08:23.10 | Funkeh` | I think the culprit just confessed |
| 08:23.37 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55833 10eePanels/localization.zhTW.lua: |
| 08:23.37 | CIA-8 | eePanels: |
| 08:23.37 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization strings. |
| 08:23.47 | Ellipsis | it wasn't me, I swear! |
| 08:26.30 | Xinhuan | bot is breakable? |
| 08:26.59 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 08:27.10 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55834 10EQCompare/localization.tw.lua: |
| 08:27.10 | CIA-8 | EQCompare: |
| 08:27.10 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization strings. |
| 08:34.10 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55835 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 08:34.10 | CIA-8 | FuBar_DurabilityFu: |
| 08:34.10 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization strings. |
| 08:34.46 | CIA-8 | 03aviana * r55836 10Sealit/ (4 files): |
| 08:34.46 | CIA-8 | Sealit: |
| 08:34.48 | CIA-8 | - Removed unused stuff and properly save the position of the button |
| 08:35.41 | Fisker- | oh hai |
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| 08:41.12 | Fisker- | with a knife |
| 08:41.17 | Fisker- | repeatedly |
| 08:41.52 | Ellipsis | ow :( |
| 08:42.57 | Funkeh` | hot |
| 08:43.10 | Ellipsis | guess we know what Funkeh` is into |
| 08:43.59 | Funkeh` | Up to a massive 2 now? |
| 08:44.15 | Ellipsis | ...sure...whatever you think... |
| 08:44.43 | Funkeh` | sorry |
| 08:44.44 | Funkeh` | 1 then |
| 08:44.56 | Ellipsis | um...yeah! you got it! |
| 08:45.02 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55837 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 08:45.02 | CIA-8 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 08:45.02 | CIA-8 | - update zhTW locale. |
| 08:45.32 | Funkeh` | Trying to egt me fat now aren't you? So you can sneak round wiht that knife? Well, I think not, because I have.... Fisker- ! |
| 08:45.50 | Ellipsis | no wai, Fisker- is mine! |
| 08:45.51 | Fisker- | you has drugs for me? |
| 08:45.54 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 08:47.00 | Fisker- | no reason to stay alive when there's no SG:A today :( |
| 08:47.25 | Funkeh` | Why isn't there? |
| 08:47.28 | Arrowmaster | rofl zhTW local update on EQCompare |
| 08:47.49 | Arrowmaster | i bet they didnt test that ingame |
| 08:47.54 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, on eepanels 1 also, don't go nuts ;p |
| 08:48.25 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: i did some bump reverting on eqcompare though lol |
| 08:48.27 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with nuts? |
| 08:48.52 | Arrowmaster | by like -9100 |
| 08:49.26 | CIA-8 | 03alar * r55838 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): |
| 08:49.26 | CIA-8 | !AlarLib |
| 08:49.28 | CIA-8 | Fix: when attacking, you got Error attempt co call method PushBind a null value |
| 08:49.54 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 08:49.57 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 08:50.07 | Funkeh` | I think Ellipsis likes a good bunch of nuts |
| 08:50.12 | Ellipsis | I do indeed |
| 08:50.51 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55839 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass: Add next bolts bar |
| 08:51.08 | Funkeh` | Which is your favourite? |
| 08:51.35 | CIA-8 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r727 10/trunk/tekKompare/tekKompare.lua: tekKompare - Bump the tips down 10 pixels, to match the default UI's position |
| 08:51.44 | Ellipsis | I'm rather fond of cashews, tbh |
| 08:52.01 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: you should so reupload that to WOWI now |
| 08:52.17 | Tekkub | I will probably |
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| 08:52.27 | Funkeh` | What exactly does it do that blizz's doesn't |
| 08:52.28 | Tekkub | and Honey Roasted Cashews >>>>>> all |
| 08:52.35 | Tekkub | shows all the time |
| 08:52.43 | Tekkub | and hover tips in the chat frame |
| 08:52.47 | Ellipsis | mmm...honey roasted nuts are the best |
| 08:53.32 | Tekkub | and I don't think blue's ever does compare on itemreftooltip.... the one you get if you click a link... does it? |
| 08:53.51 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: yeah i noticed that 'bug' the other week, press down shift while mousing over an item and the compare tips would move down 10px because the bliz functions took over |
| 08:53.58 | Funkeh` | dunno, it works whenever I press shift and hover an item that's all I ever needed |
| 08:54.17 | Tekkub | yea it's always been there, just something that didn't bug me enough to go find out their ancor |
| 08:54.38 | Tekkub | yea funk, some of us just like having them ALWAYS |
| 08:54.53 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 08:55.05 | Ellipsis | the mouseover link tooltips are the best part though |
| 08:55.09 | Tekkub | if I am looking at an equipment tip, 99% of the time it's to compare to what I've got |
| 08:55.23 | Tekkub | and, well, non-equip tips never can compare so |
| 08:59.00 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55840 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass: On engage also |
| 08:59.36 | Xinhuan | so after playing around with the guildbank API |
| 08:59.46 | Xinhuan | it appears that the data is sent page by page |
| 09:00.01 | Xinhuan | meaning, if you are viewing Tab 1, the server only sends you data for Tab 1 |
| 09:00.09 | Xinhuan | you click tab 2, then the server sends you data about tab 2, etc |
| 09:00.17 | Xinhuan | so you can't even store the contents of everything at one go |
| 09:01.21 | Funkeh` | reducing bandwidth I assume |
| 09:01.40 | [Ammo] | no separate authorization per tab |
| 09:01.59 | Xinhuan | ammo makes sense |
| 09:02.02 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 09:02.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah all 6 tabs may be purchased but that doesnt mean you have access to view all 6 |
| 09:02.13 | Xinhuan | i'll have to add "not init" flags i guess |
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| 09:02.31 | Xinhuan | to indicate some tabs aren't saved into guildbank local cache yet |
| 09:02.39 | Xinhuan | if you haven't viewed them |
| 09:02.56 | Arrowmaster | what mod are you caching the guildbank for? |
| 09:03.01 | Xinhuan | BankItems |
| 09:03.19 | Arrowmaster | no clue what that does exactly |
| 09:03.39 | Xinhuan | it remembers the contents of your banks, and allows you to view them anywhere |
| 09:03.44 | Xinhuan | blizzard frame style |
| 09:03.52 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 09:03.55 | Xinhuan | also remembers contents of your bags, equipped and mail |
| 09:03.58 | Xinhuan | and now guildbank |
| 09:04.13 | Xinhuan | fully searchable as well |
| 09:04.21 | Arrowmaster | doesnt seem that useful since the guildbank can be changed without you knowing |
| 09:04.36 | Xinhuan | yah, but its something, and the user knows the guildbank isn't synced |
| 09:04.53 | Xinhuan | but the rest of the data is accurate as long as you don't login more than 1 computer |
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| 09:05.19 | Xinhuan | in any case, BankItems been around since 2004 ;p |
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| 09:07.52 | Fisker- | i should kill you where you stand |
| 09:14.10 | sdouble | My money says he is sitting. |
| 09:14.41 | Tekkub | my money says "don't let your husband get ahold of me, he'll just blow me on stupid shit" |
| 09:15.03 | Zhinjio | G'devening, folks. |
| 09:15.45 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55841 10SimpleCombatLog/locales/localization-zhTW.lua: |
| 09:15.46 | CIA-8 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 09:15.48 | CIA-8 | - update zhTW locale. |
| 09:16.44 | sdouble | [03:14] <+Tekkub> my money says "don't let your husband get ahold of me, he'll just blow me on stupid shit" <-- haha |
| 09:17.23 | Tekkub | it's true. And my cats says "I'm a whiner, pet me!" |
| 09:17.39 | Tekkub | "Why did you stop? *whine*" |
| 09:19.39 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55842 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 09:19.39 | CIA-8 | simpleMinimap: |
| 09:19.40 | CIA-8 | - update zhTW locale. |
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| 09:31.40 | Diao | lol |
| 09:31.54 | Diao | playing alts is tremendously amusing |
| 09:34.26 | Zhinjio | woot. armorysync is working again |
| 09:34.51 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.00 | Zhinjio | wowroster plugin |
| 09:35.07 | sb | ah |
| 09:35.24 | Zhinjio | for those who don't run rpgocharacterprofiler and upload their data, this is ... well, at least the portion of the data that the armory has |
| 09:35.47 | sb | ah okay, thats nice |
| 09:36.07 | sb | so you have data for all players, even if they are to stupid to run that addon :o |
| 09:36.39 | Zhinjio | correct! |
| 09:36.45 | Zhinjio | stupid/lazy/in a coma. |
| 09:37.54 | CIA-8 | 03avai * r55843 10VodkaKickers/ (Locale-zhTW.lua VodkaKickers.toc): |
| 09:37.54 | CIA-8 | VodkaKickers: |
| 09:37.54 | CIA-8 | - add zhTW localization |
| 09:40.30 | Zhinjio | .oO( VodkaKickers?? ) |
| 09:40.45 | Zhinjio | I don't want to know. |
| 09:41.45 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55844 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: add flame shock warnings |
| 09:42.51 | nevcairiel | meh warning for flame shock is like stupid |
| 09:42.55 | nevcairiel | l2play |
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| 09:46.28 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55845 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: add 10 minute enrage |
| 09:47.16 | CIA-8 | 03phanx * r55846 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
| 09:47.17 | CIA-8 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 09:47.19 | CIA-8 | - Fixed line 61 error, maybe |
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| 09:57.09 | Gngsk | what item/ability stacks a spore cloud debuff on your attacker? |
| 09:58.12 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55847 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Jan'alai.lua): BigWigs: Zul'Aman: some icon clearing |
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| 10:23.21 | Diao | wow |
| 10:23.26 | Diao | pathaleon in heroic is pretty smart :( |
| 10:23.53 | Lukian | is that the end mech boss? |
| 10:23.58 | Lukian | It's been a while |
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| 10:24.15 | CIA-8 | Decursive: |
| 10:24.16 | CIA-8 | - update zhTW locale. |
| 10:24.18 | Diao | yea |
| 10:24.23 | Diao | this is the first time i've dpsed it as a warrior |
| 10:24.36 | Diao | he MCed me |
| 10:24.39 | Diao | intercepted our warlock |
| 10:24.47 | Diao | popped sweeping strikes |
| 10:24.47 | Diao | and just destroyed our warlock and paladin at the same time |
| 10:24.49 | Diao | :( |
| 10:24.57 | Gngsk | teach your warlock how to death coil |
| 10:25.08 | Diao | i'm too beastly :( |
| 10:25.15 | Diao | lol |
| 10:25.26 | Gngsk | more like your warlock has the reactions of a worm |
| 10:25.35 | Diao | uh |
| 10:25.39 | Diao | i killed him in the 3 sec intercept stun |
| 10:25.42 | Diao | lol |
| 10:25.45 | Diao | he didn't have a chance to deathcoil |
| 10:25.51 | Gngsk | death coil is instant cast |
| 10:26.00 | Gngsk | soon as you're MC'd you should be running away |
| 10:26.01 | Diao | ... |
| 10:26.09 | Diao | what |
| 10:26.12 | Diao | he MCed me |
| 10:26.15 | Diao | instantly intercepted the lock |
| 10:26.18 | Diao | and fucked him |
| 10:26.20 | Diao | in like 2 sec |
| 10:26.30 | Diao | where exactly would the lock have time to deathcoil? |
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| 10:27.13 | Lukian | Diao, you should blow your cooldowns before you get MC'ed :D |
| 10:27.14 | Lukian | hehe |
| 10:27.34 | Diao | lol |
| 10:27.40 | Diao | i thought it was funny |
| 10:27.44 | Diao | wiped out half our group myself |
| 10:27.52 | Diao | the wipe afterward wasn't funny though |
| 10:29.25 | Orionshock | ..... |
| 10:32.36 | Ellipsis | Lukian, by that logic, the lock's coil should have been on CD then ;) |
| 10:33.57 | Gngsk | nah, he'll always MC a secondary target in melee range |
| 10:34.30 | Gngsk | aka, rogue/warrior/feral druid ... ret pally? |
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| 10:39.56 | Lukian | ret pallies are fun |
| 10:39.59 | Lukian | lay on hands himself |
| 10:40.03 | Lukian | <3 |
| 10:41.29 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: I don't think that's true, I got MCed by him just tonight... (lock, and well outside melee range) |
| 10:42.05 | Ellipsis | I may have had aggro at that point though, perhaps that screws it up |
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| 10:46.34 | buu | Oh man, if a warlock dies to a mc'd warrior |
| 10:46.48 | buu | Some major l2p action there. |
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| 10:55.33 | Tekkub | I think they let one of the stupid kids cut the pie I brought back from TG |
| 10:55.47 | Tekkub | there's a 1/6th shaped piece missing from the pie... |
| 10:55.57 | Tekkub | and it's about 1/4 of the pie |
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| 10:56.56 | vhaarr | Tekkub: I found a wanted/poster quest in Ghostlands that is not listed in TourGuide; "Wanted: Knucklerot and Luzran", http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9156, you get it from Tranquillien. |
| 10:57.03 | vhaarr | in case you care |
| 10:57.25 | Tekkub | It's not there cause it's agroup quest |
| 10:57.34 | vhaarr | ah |
| 10:57.45 | Tekkub | thems leets |
| 10:57.57 | vhaarr | ye rightyo |
| 11:02.36 | Tekkub | what happens if you set UIParent's scale to 0? |
| 11:03.15 | Fisker- | i thought they removed that after the beta |
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| 11:03.18 | CIA-8 | AutoTurnin: |
| 11:03.19 | CIA-8 | - added FuBar and GUI menu |
| 11:03.27 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/GetCursorScaledPosition |
| 11:03.35 | Tekkub | he tests for scale == 0 |
| 11:04.13 | Nargiddley | game throws a lua error, no big deal |
| 11:04.31 | Tekkub | so it's not physically possible to set it to 0? |
| 11:04.36 | Fisker- | you can't go beneath 0.64 scale or so anyways? |
| 11:04.41 | Nargiddley | "Scale must be > 0" |
| 11:05.07 | Ellipsis | 0.00001? |
| 11:05.25 | Nargiddley | the ui all but goes bibi |
| 11:05.34 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 11:05.37 | Tekkub | 0.00001 is acceptable, no div by 0 |
| 11:05.38 | Nargiddley | and then the game crashes |
| 11:05.42 | Nargiddley | \o/ |
| 11:05.49 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 11:05.58 | Nargiddley | null pointer by the look of it |
| 11:06.00 | Nargiddley | heh |
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| 11:06.01 | Fisker- | anyone here have an iphone btw? |
| 11:06.12 | Ellipsis | I figured if you got it small enough the rounding errors would eventually make something hit 0 and crash |
| 11:06.35 | Fisker- | i had lulz btw |
| 11:06.48 | Fisker- | Someone asked in trade to post Thunderfury (obvious troll) |
| 11:06.51 | Fisker- | So i linked it |
| 11:06.59 | Fisker- | Then a lot of other people did |
| 11:07.12 | Fisker- | Then someone wrote "Reported for spam fucking idiot" to me |
| 11:07.30 | Fisker- | Then i said "reported for swearing" |
| 11:07.37 | Fisker- | "Yeah lets see who gets banned fuckface" |
| 11:07.39 | Ellipsis | why would you do that to spam? x.x |
| 11:08.05 | Fisker- | "And i said, for one i wasn't spamming, and swearing isn't allowed so i guess we'll see :P" |
| 11:08.28 | Fisker- | Oddly enough he logged off some minutes prior to a GM contacting me |
| 11:08.34 | Fisker- | haven't seen him online yet |
| 11:08.34 | Tekkub | heh |
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| 11:10.05 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: that 'group' quest in ghostlands is far from 'group quest difficulty' |
| 11:10.19 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 11:10.29 | Arrowmaster | i soloed it on my level 12 hunter =D |
| 11:10.45 | Fisker- | hunter |
| 11:10.46 | Tekkub | is it worth so much EXP that you'll have to grind in WPL to hit 60 because you skipped it? |
| 11:11.01 | Fisker- | i repeat: "Hunter" |
| 11:11.06 | Arrowmaster | or 11 or whatever level it is you can first get that quest |
| 11:11.23 | Arrowmaster | was a good chunk of xp and the rewards are great |
| 11:11.25 | Orionshock | i hate heroics |
| 11:11.31 | Fisker- | unless they of course nerfed it since i did it the last time |
| 11:11.46 | Lukian | Orionshock, because they are honoured now and everyone is undergeared? :) |
| 11:11.53 | Orionshock | no |
| 11:11.54 | Fisker- | tranquillien is awesome btw |
| 11:12.02 | Fisker- | just go there instead of the repair guy outside zul'aman |
| 11:12.08 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:12.12 | Arrowmaster | good idea |
| 11:12.15 | Orionshock | heroics act and feel too much like raiding, and i hate that enough as it is |
| 11:12.20 | Arrowmaster | exalted discount ftw |
| 11:12.25 | Ellipsis | horde hax^ |
| 11:12.57 | Arrowmaster | i had exalted tranquillien before i had exalted with any other tbc faction |
| 11:13.30 | Arrowmaster | and my char had 200+ days played when tbc came out not a reroll |
| 11:13.38 | Ellipsis | my first exalted was with consortium x.x |
| 11:13.50 | Arrowmaster | im still not consortium exalted... |
| 11:13.56 | Arrowmaster | or maghari |
| 11:14.05 | Ellipsis | I'm not even scryer exalted yet |
| 11:14.07 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 11:14.10 | Arrowmaster | exalted in all the others though |
| 11:14.32 | Arrowmaster | oh wait, not KoT either because i never do instances there |
| 11:15.30 | Fisker- | still need kot, lower city, consortium and mag'har |
| 11:15.33 | Fisker- | but i'm not doing mag'har |
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| 11:15.38 | Fisker- | and probably not gonna get kot either |
| 11:19.10 | Ellipsis | how do you people get HH/thrallmar? |
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| 11:19.22 | Ellipsis | I can't find a freaking group for those instances at all |
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| 11:20.22 | thul | Ellipsis: do heroic BF with me |
| 11:20.31 | Ellipsis | kai |
| 11:20.40 | thul | :-P |
| 11:22.26 | Ellipsis | srs though, I still don't have revered >_< |
| 11:22.37 | Ellipsis | it's the only heroic key I didn't get before the honored nerf |
| 11:29.12 | thul | hehe |
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| 11:30.15 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: i got revered thrallmar by running SH, and exalted by running heroic BF and SH |
| 11:30.27 | Arrowmaster | still only seen the spellstrike pattern drop once |
| 11:30.30 | Arrowmaster | lost the roll |
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| 11:31.00 | Arrowmaster | and that once was the most recent run i did |
| 11:31.26 | Arrowmaster | exalted lower city from running SL over and over, never seen the spellstrike pattern |
| 11:31.35 | Zhinjio | anyone know the rock profile system pretty well. |
| 11:31.46 | Zhinjio | I don't know why, but my head isn't absorbing this right. |
| 11:31.48 | Arrowmaster | rockdb? yeah |
| 11:31.56 | Zhinjio | awesome. um. |
| 11:32.15 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: that sucks, I've seen the pants pattern off murmur once but, of course, it was on a run with 3 tailors...so I lost the roll |
| 11:32.19 | Zhinjio | ok... lemme spit out what I think I know, and then you tell me how much of a nub I am and to go rtfm. |
| 11:32.55 | Arrowmaster | there is no manual for rockdb that tells you the minor details that if you dont do make it not work at all |
| 11:33.17 | Zhinjio | from what I can grok, the "by design" way to use it is to use "profile" as your default, and create a "Default" profile with the generic settings everyone (by default) will inherit. |
| 11:33.31 | Zhinjio | when you want to go to a per-character profile, you set the profile to "char" |
| 11:33.48 | Zhinjio | which then copies the default into the character's personal table |
| 11:34.33 | Zhinjio | I guess the first thing I'm confused about is how it can tell when you load whether you're using the default or the per character table? |
| 11:34.36 | Arrowmaster | if you want a general profile than use db.profile, if you want something that will only ever be saved per character then use db.char |
| 11:34.50 | Zhinjio | yeah, I think I want to use profiles, based on my current thinking |
| 11:35.07 | Arrowmaster | the user can change db.profile from "Default" to whatever they want |
| 11:35.28 | Arrowmaster | i use a character specific db.profile on my FuBar |
| 11:35.54 | Zhinjio | yeah... that then gets stored in a profile called like "char/Zhinjio - Hellscream" or w/e |
| 11:36.18 | Arrowmaster | rockdb is a lot like acedb except its very very picky on when you set it up |
| 11:36.18 | Zhinjio | but... how can you tell on loading what profile the user has/wants? Is that stored somewhere as well? |
| 11:36.41 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: all stored handled by rockdb |
| 11:36.46 | Arrowmaster | just like acedb |
| 11:36.56 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 11:37.16 | Zhinjio | hmm. I guess I'll experiment by switching and see what gets stored where or whatever. |
| 11:37.32 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: imho - open up a sv file for an ace addon and look at the DB structure - it's quite obvous from there |
| 11:37.35 | Zhinjio | I did notice a table in the fubar SV file that had like current profiles in it |
| 11:37.39 | Zhinjio | per toon |
| 11:38.08 | Zhinjio | thats generated by rock then, I take it. |
| 11:38.16 | Arrowmaster | if you have something that you want to use db.profile so people can switch to others you can set the default for db.profile to something other than "Default" |
| 11:38.41 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 11:38.58 | Zhinjio | but all my code-based references to the SV stuff should always be SKG.db.profile |
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| 11:39.06 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: yeah rockdb and acedb both handle the saving and restoring of what profile the user wants |
| 11:39.17 | Zhinjio | and that will always just get the right stuff based on whether they are set to a personal one or the Default |
| 11:39.28 | Arrowmaster | right always use db.profile for the changable profile |
| 11:39.33 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 11:39.34 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 11:39.35 | Arrowmaster | which is usually settings |
| 11:39.39 | Zhinjio | that is going to save me a lot of recoding. |
| 11:39.48 | Zhinjio | I think that answers my questions. Thanks alot. |
| 11:39.53 | Arrowmaster | if you have data that you want to save and its only going to be on a single character use db.char |
| 11:40.12 | Zhinjio | right. I"m giving the user the option to use per character or account wide settings |
| 11:40.15 | Arrowmaster | or data that should always be global then use db.account (not 100% sure thats the name) |
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| 11:40.36 | Zhinjio | for my purposes "Default" is good enough as the account wide settings. |
| 11:40.49 | Zhinjio | since everyone not using a personal profile will get that |
| 11:40.58 | Arrowmaster | if its settings then you just about always use db.profile |
| 11:41.03 | Zhinjio | alrighty |
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| 11:41.17 | Diao | rofl |
| 11:41.19 | Diao | oh god |
| 11:41.24 | Diao | now i'm doing slave pens |
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| 11:41.39 | Diao | and the MC mobs |
| 11:41.44 | Arrowmaster | acedb is just about exactly the same as rockdb for how the db structure is |
| 11:41.47 | Diao | MCed me and i white crit our rogue for 6k |
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| 11:41.56 | Diao | and then MS for 4k |
| 11:42.05 | Diao | healer didn't even have time to react |
| 11:42.07 | Diao | :( |
| 11:42.14 | Arrowmaster | Diao: i think my rogue friend wiped the group on trash in ZA earlyer |
| 11:42.28 | Arrowmaster | he was pasting me combat logs of him killing everybody |
| 11:42.47 | Diao | lol |
| 11:43.06 | Diao | pveing as arms is rather dangerous |
| 11:43.07 | Diao | :( |
| 11:43.29 | Arrowmaster | deathwish is still fury right? |
| 11:43.33 | Diao | nope |
| 11:43.35 | Diao | it's in the arms tree |
| 11:43.40 | Arrowmaster | oh they did change it |
| 11:43.42 | Diao | yep |
| 11:43.45 | Arrowmaster | so you dont have SS |
| 11:43.48 | Diao | i do actuall |
| 11:43.48 | Diao | y |
| 11:43.58 | Arrowmaster | ?? |
| 11:43.59 | Diao | 33/25/3 spec |
| 11:44.01 | Diao | lol |
| 11:44.06 | Diao | standard pvp |
| 11:44.06 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 11:44.25 | Diao | pve arms is 33/28 with sweeping strikes anyway |
| 11:44.26 | Arrowmaster | meh still need nerfs |
| 11:44.53 | Arrowmaster | warriors are the reason i dont do WSG |
| 11:44.54 | Diao | honestly, the changes to warriors did absolutely nothing |
| 11:45.01 | Diao | we neither got buffed nor nerfed |
| 11:45.02 | Diao | lol |
| 11:45.10 | Arrowmaster | for some reason all the really fucking hard hitting ones on my bg do wsg |
| 11:45.19 | Diao | i do too :D |
| 11:45.25 | Diao | i like to go in there in full arena gear |
| 11:45.32 | Diao | and squish all the people with no resilience |
| 11:45.42 | Arrowmaster | in a single day i fucking swear to you i got hit with 5k crits from just about every warrior ability |
| 11:45.48 | Diao | lol |
| 11:45.54 | Diao | well i don't hit quite that hard |
| 11:46.00 | Arrowmaster | including a fucking cleave |
| 11:46.22 | Arrowmaster | 5k cleave crit |
| 11:46.42 | Diao | o_o |
| 11:46.46 | Diao | must've been buffed out the ass |
| 11:47.16 | Arrowmaster | one of my guildmate who has a rogue main was on his 70 warlock which i dont think hed ever pvped much with at 70 |
| 11:47.45 | Arrowmaster | and was like "holy shit and i thought fighting warriors was bad on my rogue....." during one of the games that day |
| 11:47.50 | Arrowmaster | he was getting rolled |
| 11:48.03 | Diao | lol |
| 11:48.08 | Diao | i get wrecked by equally geared rogues in pvp though |
| 11:48.12 | Diao | i can't even touch them |
| 11:48.20 | Gngsk | got any resilience? |
| 11:48.31 | Arrowmaster | i have 38! |
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| 11:49.08 | Arrowmaster | and it kept me above 1500 in my 2v2 last week |
| 11:49.26 | Arrowmaster | even though some of those games were fucking nuts for 1500 |
| 11:49.44 | Gngsk | Arrowmaster, then yeah, you're gonna get rocked by warriors. reach the resilience cap and they're a lot easier to handle |
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| 11:50.33 | Arrowmaster | feral druid partner with lots of hp got fucking 3shot by a resto shaman with CL LB ES |
| 11:50.47 | Diao | gngsk i said full arena gear :) |
| 11:50.51 | Diao | so i have ~350 resil |
| 11:51.17 | Diao | and rogues have just absolutely demolished me since this patch |
| 11:51.20 | Gngsk | I dont' see where you said you goet hit for 5k by a cleave |
| 11:51.35 | Gngsk | great, I'm glad. being a rogue |
| 11:51.39 | Arrowmaster | im at that point where i have 38 resil so i cant really farm arena points, but because i cant farm arena points i cant get arena points to spend on gear for more resil |
| 11:51.50 | Gngsk | farm honor |
| 11:51.52 | Gngsk | get resilience |
| 11:51.54 | Gngsk | farm arena |
| 11:51.55 | Diao | get honor for the 5 pvp pieces |
| 11:51.58 | Diao | 60 badges for the pvp cloak |
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| 11:52.08 | Diao | that'll start you off with like 150 or so |
| 11:52.30 | Arrowmaster | ill probably get the s3 bracers and boots |
| 11:52.56 | Gngsk | s3 ring, s2 ring, s3 neck/bracers/boots/belt |
| 11:54.04 | thul | Diao: if you can't touch rogues as a full arena geared warrior, delete |
| 11:54.06 | thul | delete now :-P |
| 11:54.15 | Diao | have you even tried fighting them as a warrior |
| 11:54.21 | Diao | it's pretty ridiculous |
| 11:54.32 | Diao | 800 hemo crits |
| 11:54.35 | Diao | with my shield on |
| 11:54.37 | Diao | with 350 resil |
| 11:54.42 | Diao | in defensive stance |
| 11:54.47 | thul | i somewhat doubt that |
| 11:54.52 | Arrowmaster | some rogues that are really good with CC's are rip wariors appart too |
| 11:55.02 | thul | that would require something like 3800 ap and double illidans. |
| 11:55.13 | Diao | uh |
| 11:55.14 | Diao | no |
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| 11:55.50 | Diao | EA brings me down to like 12k armor |
| 11:55.57 | Arrowmaster | shortly after tbc release i saw a 62 hemo rogue beat a 70 arms warrior, both guild mates and both good at pvp but the rogue is one of the best |
| 11:56.13 | Diao | the first hemo hit is weak |
| 11:56.17 | Diao | but the following ones are just stupid |
| 11:56.55 | thul | yeah.. compared to 3k whirldwinds, 2-3k MS and 2k white crits, 800 hemos must be so awful :-P |
| 11:57.02 | Diao | 3k whirlwinds? |
| 11:57.03 | Diao | wow |
| 11:57.17 | Diao | even with deep thunder i only crit for 1700 max |
| 11:57.23 | Diao | on arena targets |
| 11:57.29 | Diao | 3k is like 0 resilience bg targets |
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| 11:58.06 | thul | Ive seen sundered targets do more than 1700 |
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| 11:58.34 | Diao | on a fully sundered holy priest i crit MS for 1900 |
| 11:58.39 | Diao | WW ~1700 |
| 11:59.02 | Diao | granted i don't have a stormherald which might bring that over 2k |
| 11:59.34 | thul | I did a quick test on a _far_ from gladiator geared warrior |
| 11:59.38 | thul | most likely 0 res. |
| 11:59.42 | thul | 5p EA |
| 11:59.49 | thul | my hemos crit for 400-450.. |
| 11:59.55 | Diao | what were you using |
| 12:00.12 | Diao | cause even on my alt rogue |
| 12:00.24 | thul | granted, I don't have amazing gear, 1500 ap ubuffed and wolf paw in mh |
| 12:00.40 | Diao | i can crit 0 resil cloth for like 900-1k |
| 12:00.42 | thul | and this one didn't have a shield. |
| 12:00.57 | Diao | green mainhand lol |
| 12:01.15 | thul | i hemocrit clothies for 1500 +/- |
| 12:01.30 | Diao | damage diff should be nowhere near that much o_o |
| 12:01.56 | sag_ich_nicht | wth |
| 12:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | files down? |
| 12:02.43 | Diao | but a fully s2 geared rogue with the s2 mainhand can really do some ridiculous damage |
| 12:02.50 | thul | ofcourse he should |
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| 12:02.53 | thul | he is the dps class :-) |
| 12:03.07 | Diao | not when i can't hit him back :( |
| 12:03.17 | Diao | after the stunlock ends it's lol evasion, blind, restealth, repeat |
| 12:03.51 | thul | the sad part is 2k eviscs. |
| 12:04.00 | thul | i hit like 3k eviscs before tbc, now at 70 with decent gear i do 2k :-P |
| 12:04.04 | Diao | well |
| 12:04.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah evis need a major buff |
| 12:04.16 | Diao | prebc warriors were hitting like 3k-4k MS fully buffed |
| 12:04.33 | Diao | now with weapons that are way better we still hit less -_- |
| 12:05.13 | Arrowmaster | well prebc i had my shadowbolts hitting for a minimum of 1000 on a non buffed target with no buffs on myself |
| 12:05.41 | Megalon | and now 2000? |
| 12:05.52 | Arrowmaster | now its 1800 and average 2500-2800 hits in raids |
| 12:05.58 | thul | typical :-P |
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| 12:06.12 | Arrowmaster | melee white damage went up though |
| 12:06.20 | Arrowmaster | a lot |
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| 12:06.50 | thul | I should, according to spreadsheets do about 800-850 dps in raids, but I seldom do more than 550-700 |
| 12:06.53 | thul | irritating :-P |
| 12:07.08 | Arrowmaster | hemo spec? |
| 12:08.15 | Arrowmaster | if spreadsheets say that little then you should go combat imho and work on your +hit and +haste |
| 12:08.40 | thul | I'm hemospec |
| 12:08.41 | Arrowmaster | combat with max +hit and lots of +haste procs is broken |
| 12:08.51 | thul | hemo > * |
| 12:08.55 | thul | anyhow, I need more hit. |
| 12:08.58 | thul | so, working on that. |
| 12:09.29 | Arrowmaster | combat swords rogue friend was getting so many combat potency procs on hydross once that his energy never went below 60 |
| 12:09.38 | thul | hehe |
| 12:09.40 | Diao | lol |
| 12:09.54 | Diao | yeah CP + haste and fast OH |
| 12:09.57 | Diao | is just wrong |
| 12:10.11 | Arrowmaster | he said it was this fucking stream of +20 energy in his screen |
| 12:10.12 | thul | I do more damage with combat/hemo than better geared rogues do with combat swords/daggers (but then I'm counting the dps I'm giving with hemo debuff) |
| 12:10.40 | Arrowmaster | DST, TSD meta, abacus was the only haste stuff he had i think |
| 12:11.10 | Arrowmaster | but the 2 procs were up like the entire time |
| 12:11.26 | Arrowmaster | he died twice that fight |
| 12:11.37 | Arrowmaster | from the insane tps |
| 12:11.46 | Diao | battlerezzed? |
| 12:11.50 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 12:11.58 | Diao | heh |
| 12:12.02 | Pkekyo| | morning all |
| 12:12.09 | Diao | i usually tank in raids |
| 12:12.29 | Diao | the one time i dpsed i had to keep backing off cause my threat was too high :( |
| 12:12.50 | thul | another advantage of hemo :-P 2x vanish |
| 12:14.05 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121112484&sid=1#4 <-i thought that the holy damage from crusader strike and so forth were both reducable by armor as well as resistable |
| 12:14.19 | Chompers | Fisker- slash hug |
| 12:14.46 | Fisker- | yay |
| 12:14.56 | Fisker- | the only server that was put up for the PTR server was the pvp one |
| 12:15.02 | Elkano | ~rape Fisker- |
| 12:15.12 | purl | ACTION takes Fisker- behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 12:15.12 | Fisker- | great thing that i only copy to the pve server then |
| 12:15.12 | Fisker- | >:d |
| 12:15.19 | Diao | what |
| 12:15.26 | Diao | crusader strike doesn't do holy damage |
| 12:16.01 | thul | I'll test with my pala :-P |
| 12:17.25 | [AR]Camci | ok violation sucks, worst dmg meter ever |
| 12:17.36 | Lukian | I love it |
| 12:17.56 | Fisker- | well as far as i've learned seal of command and judgement of command both get reduced by both armor and resist |
| 12:18.28 | Lukian | Diao, in 2.3.2 it won't be! :D |
| 12:18.28 | [AR]Camci | its really really different from all the other scores... last night... me, as a healer, was second on "most dmg taken" and i was first on healing done with 30% difference |
| 12:18.39 | [AR]Camci | and i was close to ppl |
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| 12:18.42 | Diao | lol |
| 12:18.45 | [AR]Camci | so that addon is bugged |
| 12:18.48 | Diao | crap |
| 12:18.53 | Diao | i just got MCed again on the next pull |
| 12:18.57 | Diao | and wiped our group again |
| 12:19.01 | [AR]Camci | lol |
| 12:19.04 | Diao | i resisted deathcoil and hammer of justice |
| 12:19.08 | [AR]Camci | we were in the eye last night |
| 12:19.09 | Diao | gg |
| 12:19.12 | [AR]Camci | 2 rogues got MCed |
| 12:19.14 | Lukian | [AR]Camci, no, you just need to sync it (so other people need to be using it), same thing applies to all damage meters :P |
| 12:19.18 | [AR]Camci | killed 7 ppl of the riad |
| 12:19.22 | [AR]Camci | was hilarious :p |
| 12:19.27 | Diao | oh |
| 12:19.33 | Diao | last week in the eye |
| 12:19.34 | Diao | i was tanking |
| 12:19.41 | Diao | one of our shadow priests got MCed |
| 12:19.50 | Diao | he just wrecked me |
| 12:19.54 | [AR]Camci | Lukian i was still in range for everyone.... 250 yard... |
| 12:19.58 | thul | i want to do heroics :-( |
| 12:19.59 | Diao | nobody even knew what happened |
| 12:20.10 | Lukian | [AR]Camci, combat log is fail :p |
| 12:20.15 | [AR]Camci | recount is way to heavy |
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| 12:21.05 | [AR]Camci | oh well |
| 12:21.05 | Lukian | use swstats or the in between one |
| 12:21.05 | [AR]Camci | gotta wait til 2.4 then :p |
| 12:21.15 | Diao | lol |
| 12:21.31 | [AR]Camci | swstats is avilable at wowace`? |
| 12:21.31 | thul | recount heavy? :-P |
| 12:21.35 | Lukian | I think the inbetween one is called recap |
| 12:21.39 | [AR]Camci | yea its way to heavy |
| 12:21.53 | Lukian | [AR]Camci, you can disable extensive logging in recount btw :p |
| 12:22.01 | [AR]Camci | o.O |
| 12:22.08 | [AR]Camci | like the graphics and shit ? |
| 12:22.12 | Lukian | yes |
| 12:22.17 | [AR]Camci | >_> |
| 12:22.22 | Lukian | [AR]Camci, and no, swstats isn't ace, which is one reason why it's lighter :p |
| 12:22.34 | [AR]Camci | thought ace was more lighter :p |
| 12:22.44 | Lukian | recount will still sit around 8mb usage, and swstats around 4mb though |
| 12:22.51 | Lukian | violation is like <1mb |
| 12:22.57 | [AR]Camci | viol sucks |
| 12:22.59 | Lukian | and recap is somewhere in the middle |
| 12:23.04 | Lukian | [AR]Camci, it's designed to |
| 12:23.09 | [AR]Camci | to suck? |
| 12:23.10 | [AR]Camci | :P |
| 12:23.18 | Lukian | to be a basic damage meter |
| 12:23.21 | [AR]Camci | would be nice if blizz could implant their own dmg thingie |
| 12:23.28 | Lukian | heh |
| 12:23.29 | Lukian | nty |
| 12:23.43 | Diao | then people in pug instances would suck even more |
| 12:23.56 | [AR]Camci | lol |
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| 12:24.19 | [AR]Camci | ill try swstats i think |
| 12:24.34 | [AR]Camci | i used it before tbc, when i was noob with addons and when i had like 5 addons total |
| 12:24.40 | [AR]Camci | now i got like 100 >.< |
| 12:25.03 | Fisker- | Chompers hold me |
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| 12:26.59 | Orionshock | wtb armory.gBank log parser... |
| 12:27.37 | Fisker- | agreed |
| 12:27.39 | Lukian | Orionshock, to do? |
| 12:27.45 | Elkano | Orion, shouldn't be that hard since it's most likely XML |
| 12:28.07 | Orionshock | it is |
| 12:28.09 | [AR]Camci | recap looks nice :o |
| 12:28.13 | Orionshock | i have a ghetto method atm... |
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| 12:28.26 | Orionshock | but it's manual rather than regex'ed |
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| 12:32.00 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 12:32.00 | CIA-8 | - ZulAman/Akil'zon zhCN update |
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| 12:41.38 | Pkekyo| | meh, why do random people get the impression that if someone is prot, they live to serve them? >.< |
| 12:42.53 | Codayus | They aren't? oO |
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| 12:43.14 | Pkekyo| | ... |
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| 12:43.28 | Pkekyo| | I've gotten 20 whispers "u prot?!!!1" the last 5min |
| 12:43.47 | Pkekyo| | then it's all "takn heroix daily!!!!!11" |
| 12:45.22 | nume | Can some1 help me with EavesDrop ? |
| 12:47.39 | Fisker- | learn2play Pkekyo| |
| 12:48.18 | thul | maybe i should lvl my paladin and spec him prot |
| 12:48.22 | thul | make him tank of the week |
| 12:48.49 | Diao | agreed Pkekyo| |
| 12:48.53 | Diao | i tell people i'm resto when they whisper me on my warrior |
| 12:48.55 | Diao | lol |
| 12:49.20 | Orionshock | Elkano: here is the problem with the regex , http://ace.pastey.net/77969 , the method that bliz employs for their xml file... |
| 12:49.34 | Pkekyo| | people not able to tell a M4 carbine from a MP7 PDW/SMG just pisses me off... |
| 12:49.54 | kontroll | Pkekyo|: Pics plx. ;P |
| 12:50.03 | Pkekyo| | kontroll: of what? |
| 12:50.20 | kontroll | Of the weapons, of course. |
| 12:50.35 | thul | people not able to tell a nato 7.62 from a russian 7.62 pisses me off... |
| 12:50.36 | thul | :-( |
| 12:51.28 | Pkekyo| | http://www.colt.com/mil/downloads/m4_01.jpg Colt M4 carbine |
| 12:51.28 | Pkekyo| | http://www.hkarms.eu/Neue_Dateien/MP7Zub1b.jpg Heckler & Koch MP7 |
| 12:51.52 | Pkekyo| | is the MP7 a PDW or SMG btw? I can't remember |
| 12:51.57 | kontroll | oh, lawl. |
| 12:52.04 | kontroll | That difference is so obvious. |
| 12:52.25 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 12:52.26 | kontroll | The MP5 is an SMG, no? Go down the family tree a bit and... I dunno. |
| 12:52.27 | kontroll | ;P |
| 12:52.35 | Pkekyo| | yes, the MP5 is an SMG |
| 12:52.56 | Pkekyo| | iirc though, the norwegian army is using the MP7 as a PDW, so I don't know...meh |
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| 12:53.57 | Industrial | < thul> people not able to tell a nato 7.62 from a russian 7.62 pisses me off... |
| 12:54.02 | Industrial | the need for guns pisses me off |
| 12:54.47 | Industrial | soldierbois ----> #weliketokillpplwithguns |
| 12:54.51 | Pkekyo| | thul: you mean the PKM? |
| 12:54.59 | Industrial | this is #wowace |
| 12:55.09 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 12:55.56 | Megalon | people not knowing the difference between bukkake and gokkun piss ME off! |
| 12:56.12 | Codayus | The MP7 is a PDW, as I understand it, not a SMG. Or it's marketed as such; how exactly you distinguish a PDW from an SMG is, it seems, a somewhat ill-defined field. |
| 12:56.21 | Gngsk | anyokne know what item/ability stacks a spore cloud debuff on your attacker? |
| 12:56.25 | Diao | PDW? |
| 12:56.31 | Pkekyo| | Personal Defence Weapon |
| 12:56.40 | Pkekyo| | ~dict bukkake |
| 12:56.44 | Pkekyo| | ~dict gokkun |
| 12:56.56 | Pkekyo| | there's no such thing as bukkake nor gokkun, Megalon |
| 12:56.57 | Industrial | ~dict addon |
| 12:57.13 | Codayus | Personal Defense Weapon. Which is "bigger than a pistol, smaller than a carbine, and with some weird-ass armor caliber to distinguish it from a SMG" Or something. |
| 12:57.14 | Industrial | ~dict gun |
| 12:57.15 | Diao | oh |
| 12:57.17 | Diao | lol |
| 12:57.23 | Industrial | see the difference there? |
| 12:57.26 | Lukian | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gokkun |
| 12:57.29 | Lukian | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bukkake |
| 12:58.06 | Diao | bukkake has been bastardized from the original meaning anyway :( |
| 12:58.19 | Codayus | Which means a P90 is a PDW, and not an SMG. Which ALSO means, if you ask me, the definition is silly. But nobody did. |
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| 12:58.45 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: right you are...although most consider the FN P90 to be a SMG |
| 12:58.56 | kontroll | I certainly do. :P |
| 12:58.59 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Exactly. |
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| 12:59.30 | Codayus | It's a SMG. Kind of a weird SMG, fine, but... |
| 13:00.23 | Pkekyo| | I think the _true_ definition of wether a weapon is a PDW or SMG is what use it's put to.... |
| 13:00.23 | Pkekyo| | if it's given to medical personel, pilots etc, it's a PDW, if it's given to assaultforces, it's put to an SMGs use...might also depend on wether it's used as a primary or secondary firearm imo |
| 13:00.54 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: That's an interesting take...makes some sense. |
| 13:01.03 | Industrial | I think the rest of the 300 people in here wont ever give a shit, and you should take this convo to a different channel so we can continue about addons |
| 13:01.19 | Pkekyo| | Industrial: noone's stopping you |
| 13:01.24 | Codayus | Industrial: We wearn't talking about addons. |
| 13:01.24 | Diao | lol |
| 13:01.34 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: indeed the P90 is a weird one...read something about it not being banned as an automatic weapon because it didn't have a pistol grip.... something like that ^^ |
| 13:01.42 | Codayus | You fail. :-( Feel free to start if you want. |
| 13:02.06 | Industrial | yeah doesnt work like that Codayus, when people are busy on another convo. |
| 13:02.43 | Industrial | youll just get ignored. "but i wont" yes but thats because I made the issue clear :P |
| 13:02.44 | Codayus | And yet you try to derail it anyhow? For shame! |
| 13:02.52 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 13:03.12 | Codayus | Pkekyo|: Interesting. Also, googling turned up this, which I'd never heard of. |
| 13:03.15 | Codayus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_PS90 |
| 13:03.26 | Codayus | "The gun is a semi-automatic sporter version of the FN P90 submachine gun, designed for the U.S. civilian market." |
| 13:03.51 | Industrial | oh fuck it. if I had +o you'd all be kickbanned for an hour. |
| 13:03.56 | Codayus | (The point of a semi-automatic P90 escapes me, I fear. The damn thing is pretty ugly.) |
| 13:04.09 | Codayus | Industrial: Just one of MANY reasons you don't have +o I suspect. :-D |
| 13:04.26 | Pkekyo| | semi-automatic kinda removes the point of having a P90 in the first place, doesn't it? :p |
| 13:04.32 | Codayus | Yeah. |
| 13:04.36 | Industrial | Codayus: stick it :-D |
| 13:04.50 | Pkekyo| | if you get a P90, it's for powerful ammo at a high ROF |
| 13:05.14 | Kalroth | Any special reason EQCompare is listed as incompatible in the addon section? |
| 13:05.17 | Codayus | Well, it's...still powerful ammo? And...it's got a big clip. And...it's really VERY ugly. |
| 13:05.51 | Codayus | Kalroth: It is? |
| 13:06.00 | Diao | because it's been nerfed |
| 13:06.09 | Kalroth | I just updated (5 mins ago) and it still does |
| 13:06.09 | Diao | get tekkompare or something that's up to date |
| 13:06.14 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: it's not really ugly...it's just weird...I somewhat like it though |
| 13:06.54 | |Stan| | Kalroth: because it is incompatible :P |
| 13:07.06 | Pkekyo| | the PS90 sporting crap was truly fugly though |
| 13:07.22 | Codayus | Yes |
| 13:07.28 | Pkekyo| | the external barrel is bloody almost as long as the body of the gun itself |
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| 13:08.13 | Codayus | Speaking of weird looking...I've got a sci-fi book around here somewhere with a space marine on the cover...set in the far future. |
| 13:09.09 | Codayus | His plasma rifle, or whatever it was, is a 100% copy of a Steyr AUG. |
| 13:09.09 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3120972733&sid=1 |
| 13:09.09 | Diao | love the first few replies |
| 13:09.10 | Codayus | I admit, it's not a bad choice for a futuristic sci-fi weapon... |
| 13:09.10 | Zhinjio | do Frame:GetLeft() and GetTop() return values if the frame has never been shown before, but did have those values assigned during frame creation? |
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| 13:09.10 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: poor creativity at the cover designer? :p |
| 13:09.11 | Codayus | Yes |
| 13:09.42 | Codayus | To be fair, the book dated from before CS popularized the gun in a generation of computer geeks... |
| 13:09.44 | Pkekyo| | when designing a futuristic sci-fi weapon, you don't take an existing weapon and say 'here it is' |
| 13:09.45 | Pkekyo| | although it's fine to take an existing weapon and build on it from there |
| 13:10.16 | Pkekyo| | speaking of futuristic sci-fi weaponry...that the flying fuck is up with the design on the OICW? |
| 13:10.38 | Kalroth | Anyone using "FuBar_ArenaFu" here? I'm getting a weird dependency error |
| 13:10.47 | Codayus | Diao: Yeah, that's funny. |
| 13:11.01 | Codayus | And...I have to say the first few replies sound kinda accurate... |
| 13:11.14 | Diao | haha |
| 13:11.59 | Codayus | Unless he's trying to be a control freak, and she's just reacting, the whole "you can't call me while I'm out with my friends" thing just has got to ring alarm bells... |
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| 13:12.50 | Diao | actually reading all the replies is funny |
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| 13:13.09 | Codayus | "this is a multiplayer game? SRSLY?" |
| 13:13.19 | Diao | And FFS, shes not cheating on me. She out with her sorority sisters right now. And, if shes cheating on me with her sorority, by all means go at it but invite me sometime. =P |
| 13:13.20 | Diao | win. |
| 13:13.29 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 13:13.38 | Codayus | Heh |
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| 13:13.51 | Codayus | "Its not like that. Its more like, "Let me call you back in an hour when I'm on my way home." " |
| 13:14.11 | Codayus | Doesn't sound like cheating, I admit. Clearly he's in denial so hard he's making stuff up. |
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| 13:15.09 | Diao | lol |
| 13:15.10 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = {}; if blort then print("foo") else print("bar") end |
| 13:15.11 | lua_bot | Zhinjio: foo |
| 13:16.06 | Codayus | " Let me call you back in an hour when I'm not having sex with another woman. Fixed for real this time." |
| 13:16.14 | Pkekyo| | "Your girlfriend is a selfish, cheating #%#@!. Choke her out and sew her vajayjay shut." ahahah |
| 13:16.34 | Industrial | Can I make a spellcast on an OnClick of a button frame? |
| 13:16.49 | Kalroth | !seen Damjau |
| 13:16.55 | Kalroth | hrmf |
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| 13:19.11 | Diao | oh god |
| 13:19.18 | Diao | OP, this is what you need to do: |
| 13:19.18 | Diao | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCyk-2MGlLo |
| 13:19.23 | Diao | rofl |
| 13:22.03 | Pkekyo| | I love that one ^^ |
| 13:22.34 | ramoz | Orionshock: ping? |
| 13:22.41 | Orionshock | meh |
| 13:22.53 | ramoz | i get nil errors when i complete dailies |
| 13:23.05 | Orionshock | line? |
| 13:23.21 | ramoz | cant remember |
| 13:23.25 | ramoz | dont have buggrabber installed |
| 13:23.28 | Orionshock | .... |
| 13:23.38 | Orionshock | did u update? |
| 13:23.46 | ramoz | i did this morning, yes |
| 13:23.49 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.13 | ramoz | well, my morning :) |
| 13:24.26 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.54 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.00 | ramoz | yes |
| 13:25.22 | Orionshock | dump the quest table |
| 13:25.40 | Orionshock | if it says true int a table a few times then go update |
| 13:26.04 | ramoz | i just did update |
| 13:26.12 | ramoz | gonna go testa netherwing quest now |
| 13:26.30 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: ping |
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| 13:29.22 | Zhinjio | It doesn't appear that my SetDatabaseDefaults is working at all |
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| 13:32.39 | Pkekyo| | ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqVVENiY2c&feature=related GOLDEN |
| 13:35.47 | Fisker- | link properly Pkekyo| |
| 13:35.52 | Fisker- | or i'll FART on you |
| 13:36.15 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqVVENiY2c&feature=related |
| 13:36.18 | Pkekyo| | kek |
| 13:36.30 | Pkekyo| | bettar naow? |
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| 13:38.21 | Industrial | so I made the addon with the info I was looking for WITHOUT Codayus's and Pkekyo|'s help. http://bildr.no/image/124733.jpeg |
| 13:38.25 | Industrial | :P |
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| 13:39.39 | ramoz | line 234, Orionshock |
| 13:40.41 | Orionshock | the hell where u doing? |
| 13:41.05 | ramoz | completing a quest |
| 13:41.18 | Orionshock | lua> if nil == (1 or 2) then return true end |
| 13:41.18 | lua_bot | Orionshock: |
| 13:41.26 | Orionshock | ...? |
| 13:41.31 | CIA-8 | 03pb_ee1 * r55856 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Adding frFR locale. |
| 13:41.53 | nevcairiel | lua> if nil == (1 or 2) then return true else return false end |
| 13:41.54 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: false |
| 13:41.56 | nevcairiel | see |
| 13:42.18 | ramoz | Interface\AddOns\SickOfClickingDailies\core.lua:234: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) |
| 13:42.52 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: i know - i was just giving ramoz a wtf look |
| 13:44.58 | ramoz | well i dunno |
| 13:44.59 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/77977 ... i know how to self |
| 13:45.42 | Orionshock | unless this isn't passing right -.0 |
| 13:46.34 | Industrial | Orionshock: maybe you have 'function addon.function(somevars)' and you are calling it with addon:function() |
| 13:46.47 | Orionshock | nope |
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| 13:48.09 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/77978 |
| 13:48.19 | Orionshock | thats the event frame where "self" is comming from |
| 13:49.31 | Orionshock | unless root[tree]() ~= root:tree() |
| 13:50.31 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:53.05 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r55857 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 13:53.06 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 13:53.08 | CIA-8 | - loot reorder |
| 13:56.02 | Orionshock | ok so their not the same |
| 13:56.34 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.46 | Orionshock | O.- |
| 13:57.04 | CIA-8 | 03celellach * r55858 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 13:57.04 | CIA-8 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:57.04 | CIA-8 | - small reorder to AL browser |
| 13:58.55 | CIA-8 | 03orionshock * r55859 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: |
| 13:58.58 | CIA-8 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 13:58.59 | CIA-8 | -fix self = nil error in quest completion sequence. |
| 13:59.35 | Orionshock | is there a keyword for the repository name? |
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| 14:09.49 | CIA-8 | 037destiny * r55861 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: koKR typo fixed :) |
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| 14:13.52 | Orionshock | ramoz: cron job should have run by now and the new one up |
| 14:13.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.06 | Zhinjio | I can't seem to get Rock's Addon:SetDatabaseDefaults stuff to work |
| 14:20.11 | Zhinjio | who has such fu? |
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| 14:21.41 | CIA-8 | 03pb_ee1 * r55862 10ACP/ (6 files): |
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| 14:21.45 | CIA-8 | ACP: |
| 14:21.47 | CIA-8 | - ACP now offers one new options that lets the user add a set to the current selection. |
| 14:21.49 | CIA-8 | - Loading a set now clears the selection first before loading the set. |
| 14:21.51 | CIA-8 | - Adding frFR locale. |
| 14:21.53 | CIA-8 | - Fixing other locales for the new changes in the dropdown. |
| 14:22.14 | SMELTN | mornign |
| 14:22.29 | SMELTN | anyone know of a good mod like Superinspect? |
| 14:23.04 | SMELTN | I want it to show what gear someone is wearing when I open an inspect window, and save it so I can look at it even if they walk away from me |
| 14:24.42 | renchap | SMELTN: try Spyglass |
| 14:27.41 | Zhinjio | no love for RockDB SetDatabaseDefaults from anyone? |
| 14:28.38 | Wobin | doesn't the api cover that? |
| 14:29.26 | Zhinjio | I've read through everything on the docs page, and looked at fubar and pitbull code for clues. |
| 14:29.33 | Zhinjio | I can't figure out why what I'm doing isn't working. |
| 14:29.56 | Zhinjio | I even went through the librockdb code to see if I could decipher. It was not very productive. |
| 14:30.14 | SMELTN | whats the best addon currently for displaying all your bags in 1 bag |
| 14:30.16 | SMELTN | bank also |
| 14:30.35 | Zhinjio | interestingly, FuBar *doesn't use* the SetDatabaseDefaults method(s), it kinda does its own init |
| 14:30.45 | Zhinjio | SMELTN: I use Bagnon with good results. |
| 14:30.49 | Zhinjio | ymmv. |
| 14:30.59 | SMELTN | ok |
| 14:31.11 | Xion` | ArkInv works fine also |
| 14:31.22 | Zhinjio | PitBull at least does, and I can't see any difference between what he did in that code and what I'md oing. |
| 14:31.26 | SMELTN | what about casting bar? Since 2.3 takes out the casting lag |
| 14:31.37 | Zhinjio | Quartz |
| 14:31.47 | Xion` | yep quartz |
| 14:31.47 | SMELTN | still? |
| 14:32.08 | SMELTN | bagnon not aced? |
| 14:32.12 | Zhinjio | nope. |
| 14:32.22 | |Stan| | "aced" |
| 14:32.26 | |Stan| | *shudder |
| 14:32.27 | |Stan| | * |
| 14:32.36 | SMELTN | |Stan| ? |
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| 14:37.20 | renchap | SMELTN: baggins |
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| 14:44.53 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r55863 10SpellDamage/ (SpellDamage.lua SpellDamage.toc sdOptions.lua): SpellDamage: Damage type is now saved per character (makes more sense to me) |
| 14:46.21 | Zhinjio | this is making the baby jesus cry. |
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| 14:47.33 | lordgreg | hi all. can someone tell me again on how to create a macro for whispers? it's not /w _target_ text... but it's something else... /script something |
| 14:49.06 | Zhinjio | ~seen Arrowmaster |
| 14:49.19 | purl | arrowmaster is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 12h 40m 43s) #wowace (1d 12h 40m 43s) #wowwiki (1d 12h 40m 43s). Has said a total of 156 messages. Is idling for 2h 37m 29s, last said: 'yes'. |
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| 14:54.30 | SMELTN | anyone know where the option is in pitbull to turn off the border around the unitframes? |
| 14:54.54 | Lukian | if you can't find pitbull options don't use it:P |
| 14:55.01 | Smj | tru.dat. |
| 14:55.03 | Lukian | or you'll be asking questions for the next year |
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| 15:06.09 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55864 10ACP/localization-zhCN.lua: ACP: update zhCN local |
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| 15:09.49 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55865 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): |
| 15:09.50 | CIA-8 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 15:09.52 | CIA-8 | -add local. now it supports more languages |
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| 15:16.39 | SMELTN | hey Lukian thanks for the help, but I have used pitbull forever. But can't seem to find the option to turn off the borders with the tree option. |
| 15:16.50 | Fisker- | anyone know how i can fix instance being set to heroic automatically all the time? |
| 15:21.46 | Lukian | Fisker-, yeah my main has that issue too |
| 15:22.04 | Lukian | is it a bug or just your last setting? |
| 15:22.34 | Fisker- | it's a bug as far as i know |
| 15:22.46 | Fisker- | but i believe blizzard themselves say it has to do with an addon interfering |
| 15:22.53 | Fisker- | but i don't know which one would do that |
| 15:23.00 | SMELTN | Lukian: if you can't find the option to turn heroics off don't do them :P |
| 15:23.29 | Lukian | SMELTN, double negative |
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| 15:27.56 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55866 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Halazzi.lua Jan'alai.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: Zul'Aman: add some wipe checks |
| 15:32.47 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55867 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: Now use the emote, syncing removed. |
| 15:44.15 | CIA-8 | 03cwdg * r55868 10FuBar_DPS/ (FuBar_DPS-Locale-zhCN.lua FuBar_DPS.toc): |
| 15:44.17 | CIA-8 | FuBar_DPS: |
| 15:44.19 | CIA-8 | - fix toc ==>20300 |
| 15:44.21 | CIA-8 | fix zhCN local |
| 15:45.11 | Zhinjio | can any of y'all take a look at http://www.pastey.net/77992 and tell me why the SV doesn't inherit the stuff in SetDatabaseDefaults()? |
| 15:49.07 | Xinhuan | hm? |
| 15:51.44 | Zhinjio | gah, I can't keep my eyes open any longer. If y'all get any ideas on whats wrong with that code, I'lll check my lastlog when I wake up. |
| 15:51.48 | Zhinjio | peace., |
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| 15:59.22 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r55869 10SpellDamage/ (SpellDamage.lua SpellDamage.toc sdOptions.lua): SpellDamage: added healing power to display options |
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| 16:03.35 | thul | Zhinjio: i posted it in my coders channel :-P |
| 16:07.31 | Fisker- | yay Funkeh` |
| 16:07.38 | Fisker- | now you just have to remove the flame shock stuff :D |
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| 16:08.19 | charon | evening |
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| 16:11.31 | aestil | Ellipsis: ping |
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| 16:12.55 | thul | pong |
| 16:14.21 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, what? |
| 16:15.02 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r55870 10AckisRecipeList/ (9 files): |
| 16:15.04 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:15.06 | CIA-8 | - Added license which I stole from ck's work and modified :P |
| 16:15.08 | CIA-8 | - Removed a localization string from each of the locals |
| 16:15.10 | CIA-8 | - Set the koKR localization to actually be koKR |
| 16:15.12 | CIA-8 | - Added koKR to the ToC |
| 16:15.14 | CIA-8 | - koKR localization is a work in progress I know |
| 16:15.27 | Ackis | 2 pages later my patch notes are done muhahah |
| 16:16.38 | CIA-8 | 03funkydude * r55871 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: add first adds timer |
| 16:16.52 | Xinhuan | how's your floppy disk drive working Ackis? :) |
| 16:16.58 | Ackis | lol like a charm |
| 16:17.02 | kenlyric | is there an ignore function in ARL? |
| 16:17.06 | Ackis | still not mounted properly |
| 16:17.11 | Ackis | what would you want to ignore? |
| 16:17.17 | Funkeh` | people still ahve those drives? |
| 16:17.19 | kenlyric | the recipes I'll never get. |
| 16:17.28 | Ackis | but I'm getting over 100 fps in some spots in wow... mmm |
| 16:17.36 | Ackis | kenlyric, try: /arl display |
| 16:17.42 | Ackis | that'll allow you to filter out different shit |
| 16:17.45 | Ackis | err poop |
| 16:18.19 | Ackis | it's limited to a few different options right now however I have vast plans on expanding it... just to expand it I have to rewrite some original code |
| 16:18.32 | Xinhuan | ackis, string..string is the fastest using .. for just strings :) |
| 16:18.50 | Xinhuan | if you're mixing up string..number, then format() is faster |
| 16:18.58 | CIA-8 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r55872 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/hideblizz/hideblizz.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix hide blizzard module |
| 16:19.13 | Ackis | ok.. I believe I'm only using strings for most of my cases |
| 16:19.23 | Xyphor | what addon is /rock? I have just too many here... |
| 16:19.27 | Xinhuan | you can generally using stringvar:format(etc) |
| 16:19.32 | Ackis | format() looks easier to read imo |
| 16:19.40 | Xinhuan | if your stringvar is a literal, you need to surround it with ( ) |
| 16:20.04 | Xinhuan | got it? |
| 16:20.05 | Ackis | I got into the problem where I was doing "%s - %s":format(foo,bar) and it wasn't working... |
| 16:20.07 | kenlyric | a simple filter would be BoE drops/BoP drops/Rep rewards/Trained. |
| 16:20.16 | Xinhuan | yes, cos "%s - %s" is a string literal |
| 16:20.19 | Xinhuan | surround it with a ( ) |
| 16:20.21 | Ackis | so (%s - %s):format(foo,bar) would work |
| 16:20.24 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 16:20.26 | Ackis | sweet |
| 16:20.34 | Xinhuan | no you need that " " too |
| 16:20.39 | Ackis | yah the "'s |
| 16:20.44 | Ackis | I didn't sleep last night =/ |
| 16:20.51 | Ackis | curse you call of duty 4!!!! |
| 16:21.05 | kenlyric | I get a directx error when I try to launch it. |
| 16:21.09 | Xinhuan | the () forces it to evaluate as a string object, so you can use :format() on it via the string metatable |
| 16:21.31 | Xinhuan | abc:format(etc) is the same as abc.format(abc, etc) |
| 16:21.54 | Ackis | Kenlyric: I have the db info for the reputations already in the db, I want to add that filtering option, but I think more people want me to add vendor locations right now so I'm going to focus on that when I do hte next big dev step |
| 16:22.03 | Xinhuan | which is the same as abc["format"](abc, etc) |
| 16:22.10 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r55873 10SpellDamage/ (SpellDamage.lua sdOptions.lua): SpellDamage: Added Attack Power (considering a namechange now... :-)) |
| 16:22.54 | Ackis | xinhuan, I'm not sure why you're doing abc.format(abc, etc)... do you have to list the first string in the format()? |
| 16:23.14 | Xinhuan | in lua, the : is a shortcut |
| 16:23.22 | Xinhuan | for passing yourself as the first argument |
| 16:23.23 | Xinhuan | remember? |
| 16:23.34 | Ackis | not really |
| 16:23.35 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:24.11 | Ackis | but it makes sense |
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| 16:24.12 | Ackis | I think I'm still stuck in a C++ world with LUA |
| 16:24.12 | krka | Ackis: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 16:24.29 | Xinhuan | so if you have |
| 16:24.34 | Xinhuan | a function declared |
| 16:24.45 | |Stan| | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77997 |
| 16:24.55 | Xinhuan | function Ackis:myfunc(arg1, arg2) end |
| 16:24.59 | Xinhuan | then to call this function |
| 16:25.03 | Xinhuan | you can either do |
| 16:25.13 | Xinhuan | Ackis:myfunc(a, b) |
| 16:25.24 | Xinhuan | or Ackis.myfunc(Ackis, a, b) |
| 16:25.45 | Xinhuan | because when you declare the function as function Ackis:myfunc(arg1, arg2) end |
| 16:26.00 | Xinhuan | it is really just a shortcut for writing function Ackis.myfunc(self, arg1, arg2) end |
| 16:26.21 | Xinhuan | where the "self" argument is predefined for you |
| 16:26.25 | Xinhuan | and you can use it directly |
| 16:26.43 | Kuja^ | erm, why in hell does topscorefu display me sw:d records with my huntard? :p |
| 16:26.45 | Ackis | ok, expanding on that, what about when I do "local function ackisfoo(foo)" and I just have to call that as "ackisfoo(foo)" |
| 16:26.54 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 16:27.15 | Xinhuan | you can convert calls from what format to the other as long as you know what you're doing |
| 16:27.26 | Ackis | that's the problem Xinhuan |
| 16:27.29 | Ackis | I don't know what I'm doing |
| 16:27.30 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:27.45 | Xyphor | Is there an easy way to rename my addon? |
| 16:27.49 | Ackis | I'm just going by the seat of my pants, reading pil, using google, looking at other peoplse code |
| 16:28.37 | Xinhuan | lua> hi |
| 16:28.37 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 16:29.25 | MentalPower|AFK | Xinhuan: svn rename the folder, and then another commit to change the internal names |
| 16:29.41 | Xinhuan | p.s. please type in at least TWO letters when you use tab completion. |
| 16:29.47 | Xyphor | lol :p |
| 16:30.02 | Polarina | Where can I put my addon to the AceSVN? |
| 16:30.07 | Xinhuan | or press tab multiple times |
| 16:30.09 | Xyphor | rename svn folder (gonna read about that howto!) |
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| 16:32.26 | Xyphor | hmm, Turtoise fails me there |
| 16:33.47 | CIA-8 | 03charon * r55874 10Mangler/ (Mangler.lua Mangler.toc embeds.xml): |
| 16:33.48 | CIA-8 | Mangler: |
| 16:33.50 | CIA-8 | - change to embeds.xml embedding |
| 16:33.52 | CIA-8 | - fix for 2.2(?) changes to GetPoint() |
| 16:34.37 | Xyphor | MentalPower, is it called relocate in Turtoise |
| 16:34.40 | CIA-8 | 03charon 07charon * r55875 10Omen/Omen/ (10 files): |
| 16:34.42 | CIA-8 | Omen: |
| 16:34.44 | CIA-8 | - merge changes since 51131 |
| 16:34.46 | charon | Antiarc: any news on what exact amount of bribery would make those branch changes go live? :) |
| 16:35.07 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: no, thats to switch repositories |
| 16:35.30 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: in tortoise its called rename |
| 16:35.30 | Xyphor | good I didn't click ok then |
| 16:35.35 | MentalPower|AFK | it has a pencil icon |
| 16:35.44 | Xyphor | rename gives error like (ok, coming up...) |
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| 16:35.54 | MentalPower|AFK | (under resolve) |
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| 16:36.09 | MentalPower|AFK | (and above delete) |
| 16:36.40 | Xyphor | 'E:\Games' is not a working copy (that folder contains my addon folder I'm editing |
| 16:37.01 | CIA-8 | 03charon 07charon * r55876 10Omen/Omen/Libs/: |
| 16:37.01 | CIA-8 | Omen: |
| 16:37.02 | CIA-8 | - ... and remember to change svn:externals, too |
| 16:37.42 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: are you trying to do it on the file you want to rename? |
| 16:38.06 | Polarina | How do I make my addon updateable with WAU? |
| 16:38.08 | Xyphor | on the folder actually |
| 16:38.29 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: I think you need to checkout the parent directory (make sure to do it *without* externals) |
| 16:38.50 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: actually, I think theres a neat trick you can do to avoid checking out the whole folder |
| 16:38.50 | Speeddymon | anyone know if there is a way to use a profile for an ace addon that is on one account for a toon on another? |
| 16:38.53 | charon | Xyphor: make sure you do it _nonrecursively_ |
| 16:38.56 | charon | svn co -N |
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| 16:39.10 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: (what charon said) |
| 16:39.25 | charon | Xyphor: then selectively 'svn up' the subdirectories you need |
| 16:39.31 | Speeddymon | anyone know if there is a way to use a profile for an ace addon that is on one account for a toon on another? |
| 16:39.37 | charon | Xyphor: though in fact you can also do a server-side rename |
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| 16:39.49 | charon | try svn mv --help |
| 16:39.54 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: in tortoise its called checkout top folder only |
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| 16:40.13 | Xyphor | I'm gonna download command line svn first then... |
| 16:40.16 | Xinhuan | uh to rename on server side, you use the Repository Browser |
| 16:40.21 | MentalPower|AFK | Xyphor: that server-side rename you can do via the repo browser |
| 16:40.28 | Xinhuan | and just right click on the repository folder, and choose "rename..." |
| 16:40.38 | Xinhuan | simple? |
| 16:40.42 | MentalPower|AFK | Polarina: chill, I'm looking |
| 16:40.48 | charon | what Xinhuan said, if you use tortoise |
| 16:40.53 | Polarina | MentalPower|AFK: Thanks. |
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| 16:43.16 | sylvanaar | what are you guys doing? |
| 16:44.11 | sylvanaar | charon thx for the prat fix btw |
| 16:44.34 | charon | sylvanaar: you're welcome, thanks for the great addon :) |
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| 16:46.39 | CIA-8 | 03xyphor * r55878 10/trunk/ (PowerDisplay/ SpellDamage/): Renamed remotely |
| 16:47.00 | MentalPower|AFK | ~seen pprovost |
| 16:47.01 | purl | pprovost <i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 24d 18h 18m 6s ago, saying: 'nvm... found it... CR_WEAPON_FERAL looks right'. |
| 16:47.11 | MentalPower|AFK | oh dear... |
| 16:47.16 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r55879 10ACP/localization-zhTW.lua: ACP: updated zhTW localization |
| 16:47.16 | sylvanaar | rofl |
| 16:47.38 | MentalPower|AFK | Polarina: /join #WAU |
| 16:47.55 | MentalPower|AFK | they might be able to help more than I. I was unable to find any info on the Ace wiki |
| 16:48.24 | sylvanaar | addons appear on wau if checked into the trunk with a TOC > 20000 |
| 16:49.20 | sylvanaar | 20 min delay + any delay in the server script |
| 16:49.46 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r55880 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:49.48 | CIA-8 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:49.50 | CIA-8 | - Fish: updated zhTW localization |
| 16:49.52 | CIA-8 | - Gas: updated zhTW localization |
| 16:50.02 | CIA-8 | 03helium * r55881 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: updated zhTW localization |
| 16:51.07 | CIA-8 | 03ananhaid * r55882 10BigWigs/ (47 files in 7 dirs): |
| 16:51.14 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: |
| 16:51.18 | CIA-8 | - zhCN typo and punctuation done! |
| 16:51.37 | Xion` | they really love updating all them languages on BW... |
| 16:52.09 | [Ammo] | it's mostly the asians |
| 16:52.14 | [Ammo] | I dunno what it is with them |
| 16:52.31 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 16:52.33 | [Ammo] | I think we have 2 competing localization teams that revert eachothers changes constantly |
| 16:52.42 | Xion` | heh |
| 16:52.43 | [Ammo] | or just enjoy twisting words around every day |
| 16:52.49 | Funkeh` | no |
| 16:52.53 | Funkeh` | they language evolves |
| 16:52.56 | Funkeh` | on a daily basis |
| 16:52.59 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 16:52.59 | Funkeh` | they need to keep up |
| 16:53.00 | [Ammo] | dumb me |
| 16:53.04 | Funkeh` | ;p |
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| 16:56.04 | CIA-8 | 03charon * r55883 10Mangler/Mangler.toc: Mangler: change TOC to 20300 |
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| 17:04.28 | Xinhuan | i wonder how much faster my addons will load if i deleted every single non-english localization file from all my addons |
| 17:05.28 | sylvanaar | actually i want to test out the |
| 17:05.40 | Xinhuan | if 50 of my addons each have 5 locale files i don't need, imagine that's 300 less files to load/parse |
| 17:05.48 | sylvanaar | embedded load on use thing tekkub and i were talking about |
| 17:06.12 | sylvanaar | the load/parse is very fast |
| 17:06.32 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, I'd like to find out |
| 17:06.34 | Xinhuan | would it be feasible to add an extra TOC type field for WAU to delete unnecessary locale files? |
| 17:06.39 | Xinhuan | or would the gain be too minimal to notice? |
| 17:07.03 | sylvanaar | idk |
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| 17:09.18 | sylvanaar | i want to try this http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9595.0 |
| 17:10.06 | sylvanaar | My thought is that execution of the main chunk is the source for alot of the load delay |
| 17:10.46 | Xinhuan | some testing / profiling will probaby be needed |
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| 17:11.10 | sylvanaar | idk if just running the main chunk takes time of if its the code in the main chunk |
| 17:12.06 | Ackis | is there a way with slash commands to have the slash without args do something, and then the slash with args just change parameters? |
| 17:12.32 | Ackis | i know you can do one or the other, not sure if you can combine them w/ the ace2 framework |
| 17:12.33 | Polarina | Ackis: Yes. |
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| 17:14.21 | CIA-8 | BigWigs: ZulAman: |
| 17:14.23 | CIA-8 | - Akil'zon: frFR Update |
| 17:14.25 | CIA-8 | - Malacrass: first Spirit Bolts after 30 sec, not 40 |
| 17:14.27 | CIA-8 | - Zul'jin: little bugfix |
| 17:15.00 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:15.13 | Xinhuan | [11/25 01:08:23] <sylvanaar> the load/parse is very fast |
| 17:15.18 | Xinhuan | still, no matter how fast it is |
| 17:15.26 | Xinhuan | it still takes time to load/parse 300 locale files |
| 17:16.03 | JCinDE | It's a shame so few mods/libraries have wiki pages. =/ |
| 17:16.08 | JCinDE | what's Sylvanaar? |
| 17:16.19 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 17:16.28 | JCinDE | Oh hi lol |
| 17:16.47 | JCinDE | I just woke up, leave me alone. =P |
| 17:18.03 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan we did profile some of that stuff at one point - we never looked into the cost of execution of the main chunk though. |
| 17:18.23 | Xinhuan | what exactly do you define as "main chunk"? |
| 17:18.34 | Xinhuan | every file is a chunk |
| 17:18.41 | sylvanaar | exactly |
| 17:19.10 | sylvanaar | every file is loaded/parsed then its main chunk is executed |
| 17:19.10 | Xinhuan | if the entire chunk is a huge locale table wrapped by a if GetLocale() == "abcd" |
| 17:19.19 | Xinhuan | i'll imagine this to take 0 time to process |
| 17:19.25 | Xinhuan | execute i mean |
| 17:19.36 | Xinhuan | but take soem time to compile into lua bytecode |
| 17:20.15 | sylvanaar | not as much as you might think |
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| 17:20.44 | Xinhuan | well lets say, i have this 15 mb lootlink file |
| 17:21.00 | sylvanaar | thats totally different clearly |
| 17:21.03 | Xinhuan | i'll say it takes a good 15 secs to load it |
| 17:21.38 | Xinhuan | now what if this lootlink.lua file is stripped of all its -- [2] and -- [3] comments? |
| 17:21.42 | sylvanaar | what do you think takes the time? loading? parsing? or execution of the main chunk |
| 17:21.45 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't be 15 mb anymore |
| 17:21.52 | Xinhuan | it would be closer to 11 mb |
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| 17:22.28 | Xinhuan | and loading this file will be faster without having to parse out all that comments at the end of each line |
| 17:22.39 | Xinhuan | and a smaller file to load from the disk |
| 17:23.21 | sylvanaar | i think you are missing the point - but ok |
| 17:23.42 | Xinhuan | you can measure execution time of the main chunk |
| 17:23.50 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Lua isn't slower parsing files that have comments. |
| 17:24.09 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure of that one, if we're talking about 3 mb worth of comments |
| 17:24.47 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It isn't slower parsing it.. |
| 17:25.04 | Xinhuan | anyway, you can measure execution time of the main chunk, if you add a debugprofilestart() and debugprofilestop() at the top/bottom of every file? |
| 17:25.05 | sylvanaar | or loading it for that matter - we ran tests at one point |
| 17:25.30 | Xinhuan | and storing the results |
| 17:27.44 | sylvanaar | can you? i have never tried |
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| 17:28.07 | Xinhuan | i think the order of loading a file is.... load file, compile chunk, execute chunk, repeat for each file, throw ADDON_LOADED event? |
| 17:28.13 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure |
| 17:28.23 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats right |
| 17:28.43 | mjc | can anyone recommend any addons that will sort the 2.3 guild bank? :p |
| 17:29.27 | Mudkips | sort? |
| 17:29.51 | mjc | like mrplow does |
| 17:30.03 | Mudkips | you're getting spoiled by addons :P |
| 17:30.31 | Xinhuan | i'll try it on one of my addons sylvanaar |
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| 17:30.44 | Xinhuan | i added |
| 17:30.44 | Xinhuan | debugprofilestart() |
| 17:30.47 | Xinhuan | on line 1 and added |
| 17:30.52 | Xinhuan | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugprofilestop()) |
| 17:30.53 | Xinhuan | on the last line |
| 17:31.10 | Xinhuan | logging in now |
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| 17:31.52 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 17:31.56 | sylvanaar | Prolly need to save the result in a local |
| 17:32.03 | sylvanaar | and display it later |
| 17:32.11 | LePeR|Jaunia | anyone know where i can get the questtitle font? or what the name of it is? |
| 17:32.11 | Xinhuan | on logging in, it says 73.509622032968 |
| 17:32.22 | Xinhuan | meaning it took 73 ms to execute that entire file |
| 17:32.30 | sylvanaar | 1 file? |
| 17:32.32 | Xinhuan | fair enough? |
| 17:32.42 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 17:32.51 | Xinhuan | i added this to BankItems.lua |
| 17:32.53 | Xinhuan | one of my addons |
| 17:32.57 | sylvanaar | thats massive |
| 17:33.10 | Xinhuan | yes it has 3066 lines |
| 17:33.21 | Polarina | 73 ms isn't huge.. |
| 17:33.26 | sylvanaar | no, i mean - the time |
| 17:33.29 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 17:33.33 | Xinhuan | and creates a bunch of frames and about 20 buttons |
| 17:33.35 | Xinhuan | 200 buttons |
| 17:33.38 | Xinhuan | (not 20) |
| 17:33.45 | sylvanaar | in the main chunk? |
| 17:33.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 17:33.53 | Xinhuan | actually its more than 200 buttons |
| 17:33.53 | sylvanaar | not in a function? |
| 17:34.01 | Polarina | So, it is very short. :) |
| 17:34.09 | Xinhuan | ya, i create the frames immediately |
| 17:34.11 | Xinhuan | in a do end block |
| 17:34.25 | Xinhuan | so yes, the frame creation is done on execution of the chunk |
| 17:34.48 | Xinhuan | 7 bags in bank x 36 possible bag buttons on each = 210 buttons + 28 in main bank + 7 bag buttons |
| 17:34.53 | Xinhuan | + 96 guild bank buttons |
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| 17:35.22 | Xinhuan | it also creates the necessary textures, etc |
| 17:35.36 | Xinhuan | which i suppose also takes time to execute and load |
| 17:35.41 | Xinhuan | for the frame |
| 17:35.55 | sylvanaar | textures are loaded later actually |
| 17:36.19 | sylvanaar | you get a handle, the actual textures are loaded at the end of the loading process |
| 17:36.23 | Xinhuan | would you like me to test this on another addon you specify? |
| 17:36.41 | Xinhuan | adding the debuglines to 1st/last line that is |
| 17:36.59 | sylvanaar | just try it on some random ones |
| 17:37.07 | Xinhuan | pick a common one |
| 17:37.17 | sylvanaar | bigwigs |
| 17:37.48 | Xinhuan | lets see |
| 17:37.55 | Xinhuan | BigWigs\core.lua |
| 17:38.10 | Xinhuan | 21 kb file, 606 lines |
| 17:38.32 | Xinhuan | reloading now |
| 17:38.50 | Xinhuan | says 0.73 ms |
| 17:38.54 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 17:38.57 | sylvanaar | do 0 lines |
| 17:39.15 | nevcairiel | parsing pure AceOO code like that takes no time at all |
| 17:39.22 | nevcairiel | since its all executed on some event |
| 17:39.29 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Maybe that file only contains event handlers for events such as VARIABLES_LOADED and more.. |
| 17:39.39 | Xinhuan | ya, that's all core.lua is |
| 17:39.42 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:39.47 | Xinhuan | pick another addon sylvanaar |
| 17:39.49 | sylvanaar | no main chunk code |
| 17:40.01 | nevcairiel | nearly all Ace addons only start to work on OnInit |
| 17:40.10 | nevcairiel | profiling like that doesnt help much |
| 17:40.18 | Polarina | I have a code 5.1 KiB, 157 lines. |
| 17:40.51 | sylvanaar | do acelibrary |
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| 17:41.05 | Xinhuan | well nevcairiel, sylvanaar only wants to know how long executing a main chunk takes :) |
| 17:41.29 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 17:41.38 | Xinhuan | adding the lines to Ace2\AceLibrary.lua |
| 17:41.41 | sylvanaar | my thought is that main chunk execution accounts for a large portion of loading time - but its just a hypothesis |
| 17:42.12 | Xinhuan | 0.94 ms |
| 17:42.22 | Xinhuan | 0.947885 ms |
| 17:42.29 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Add these lines to ValuationUI.lua |
| 17:42.30 | nevcairiel | most of the loading time is in the OnInits creating a bunch of frames |
| 17:42.43 | nevcairiel | framecreation = the devil |
| 17:42.48 | Xinhuan | i don't believe i have that addon Polarina |
| 17:43.03 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I'll do it for you then. What are the lines? |
| 17:43.07 | sylvanaar | well - that falls under the same umbrella nevcairiel - though not technically the same |
| 17:43.15 | Xinhuan | last line -- ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugprofilestop()) |
| 17:43.22 | Xinhuan | first line -- debugprofilestart() |
| 17:43.48 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: true, its executed on VARIABLES_LOADED generally, not on direct parsing of the file |
| 17:43.48 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Wait.. |
| 17:43.51 | Xinhuan | it merely starts a timer, and the stop one returns a single value in ms how long has elapsed |
| 17:45.11 | Polarina | Xinhuan: 9,79 ms. |
| 17:45.36 | Xinhuan | so an addon that does a lot of CreateFrame() would take longer to execute - as expected |
| 17:46.16 | sylvanaar | I think the timer's only accurate to 1ms at best |
| 17:46.22 | Xinhuan | i believe the chokepoint isn't in chunk execution - its in chunk compilation into lua bytecode |
| 17:46.46 | Polarina | sylvanaar: That's on Windows. |
| 17:47.01 | Elkano | hmmm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8ZadKgdC0 |
| 17:47.29 | Xinhuan | consider embedding libraries in all your 100 addons vs disembedding them with the same libraries -- because all the libraries are the same version, no lib upgrading is done right? |
| 17:47.46 | sylvanaar | right |
| 17:47.58 | Xinhuan | so main chunk execution would be small, like 0 to 1 ms |
| 17:48.03 | Xinhuan | for each repeated loaded lib |
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| 17:48.12 | sylvanaar | right |
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| 17:48.31 | Xinhuan | hence my conclusion that it is compilation that takes the most time |
| 17:48.53 | Polarina | Blizzard really should cache the bytecode... |
| 17:48.54 | sylvanaar | so measure the time for a call to LoadAddon(0 |
| 17:48.55 | Antiarc | Well |
| 17:48.58 | Antiarc | File reads take a while |
| 17:49.04 | |Stan| | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77997 |
| 17:49.05 | Antiarc | Reading a billion small files just takes a lot of time |
| 17:49.05 | |Stan| | :P |
| 17:49.19 | Antiarc | Hrm. Looks like I just need to strip those names. |
| 17:49.27 | Xinhuan | well, how about you take AceLibrary.lua |
| 17:49.33 | Xinhuan | cut and copy its code 100 times |
| 17:49.38 | Xinhuan | into itself |
| 17:49.46 | Xinhuan | 1 file - AceLibrary.lua loaded 100 times |
| 17:49.48 | Polarina | Antiarc: It takes 10 minutes to read 70.000 files from a Ultra-IDE connected hard disk. |
| 17:49.53 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 17:50.02 | Polarina | Antiarc: At least on a ext3 filesystem with noatime. |
| 17:50.10 | Xinhuan | think i should try that? |
| 17:50.13 | sylvanaar | 10 min? |
| 17:50.18 | sylvanaar | seriously |
| 17:50.26 | Antiarc | Drive seeks just take time |
| 17:50.31 | Polarina | Yes, for 70.000 files, each about 700 bytes. |
| 17:50.31 | Antiarc | Not much of a way around that |
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| 17:52.50 | sylvanaar | Ok, i ran filemon traces back when we came up with embeds.xml. The time to load the files was small though constant. 1-2ms. |
| 17:53.17 | Xinhuan | that is expected |
| 17:54.13 | sylvanaar | I was of the opinion at the time that this time included the parsing because it was the time from the read start of file A to the read start of file B |
| 17:54.29 | Antiarc | I have 10576 files in my AddOns directory, and I run disembedded |
| 17:54.33 | Kalroth | Anyone seen Cide around? |
| 17:54.49 | Antiarc | So we're talking 10-20 sec just to lead those files, let alone parse, compile, and run them |
| 17:54.51 | sylvanaar | You need to skip the files in the .svn folders |
| 17:55.02 | Antiarc | Oh, true. |
| 17:55.19 | Antiarc | Though I only have a few .svn dirs |
| 17:55.39 | Polarina | Antiarc: And each of them contains tons of other files. |
| 17:55.42 | sylvanaar | Though I do agree with you, and I said as much at one point |
| 17:56.48 | Xinhuan | i am still of the opinion that code execution is FAST - as its meant to be |
| 17:56.53 | Xinhuan | it is compiling that takes the most time |
| 17:56.59 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 17:57.00 | Xinhuan | not the read/loading from the drive |
| 17:57.28 | sylvanaar | From all I have seen having lots of files in the wow directory (not just addons) has a cost since the game goes through and enumerates every file in the wow folder |
| 17:57.29 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 17:57.30 | Antiarc | I regularly clean out what I can specifically because of that |
| 17:57.33 | Antiarc | Drops my client bootup time significantly |
| 17:57.38 | Industrial | Fin: ping |
| 17:57.55 | Industrial | Fin: I cant seem to remove a site eg wowace from your wowmods site |
| 17:58.08 | Xinhuan | hence i think that if we can find a way to delete all non-necessary locale files from each addon, it will help load time |
| 17:58.36 | Xinhuan | less files to enumerate, seek, load, parse, execute |
| 17:58.52 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 17:58.56 | sylvanaar | well |
| 17:58.56 | Antiarc | I don't think it would be that many |
| 17:59.10 | Xinhuan | only because half the current authors embed 7 locales into the same file |
| 17:59.21 | Xinhuan | which is ok, because its still 1 file |
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| 17:59.26 | Xinhuan | and 1 file > 7 files |
| 17:59.30 | Industrial | or you just put all locale in functions and delete them when not needed |
| 17:59.38 | sylvanaar | I think removal of code from the main chunks of every lua file would net you more |
| 17:59.40 | Industrial | like PT |
| 17:59.58 | Xinhuan | Industrial, they still take time to load from disk, and compile into lua bytecode, then eventually they get GCed |
| 18:00.23 | sylvanaar | strings take no time to compile imo |
| 18:00.32 | Industrial | yes, how do you want to circumvent that... |
| 18:00.58 | Xinhuan | i suggested adding TOC fields for WAU to read, so it can determine which locale files are safe to delete |
| 18:01.51 | Ellipsis | but then those files have to be removed from toc/xml loading or the framexml logging cancels out most of the benefit? |
| 18:02.04 | Industrial | meh I really dont want something automated to tamper with the structure of my addons :\ |
| 18:02.17 | Ellipsis | I do! |
| 18:02.18 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 18:02.23 | sylvanaar | Yeah - locale.xml or something would be needed, its not hard |
| 18:02.28 | Xinhuan | i don't think so, attempting to load a file and failing, takes less time than actually loading a file, parsing it, executing it? |
| 18:02.32 | sylvanaar | wrong |
| 18:02.40 | Industrial | same as id rather nto have people install them and then move stuff around ;P |
| 18:02.48 | sylvanaar | we found that out the hard way |
| 18:02.49 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I said the *logging* |
| 18:02.51 | Antiarc | Err |
| 18:03.00 | Xinhuan | the log file is a open stream |
| 18:03.04 | Antiarc | Attempting to load a file that isn't there is going to be a lot faster than loading a file that is there. |
| 18:03.13 | Ellipsis | depends on the size of the file |
| 18:03.20 | Ellipsis | for a normal addon, I don't think that's true |
| 18:03.24 | Xinhuan | it doesn't have to be a TOC field |
| 18:03.30 | Ellipsis | they localize a handful of strings for their config menus |
| 18:03.33 | Xinhuan | it can be Folder property field |
| 18:03.36 | Xinhuan | in the svn |
| 18:03.52 | Xinhuan | you know how we setup externals by specifying "svn:externals" ? |
| 18:04.02 | sylvanaar | no, because the client takes more time to log the error to framexml.log |
| 18:04.05 | Xinhuan | just set up extra folder properties, such as "wau:enUS" |
| 18:04.19 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, this is exactly the system I have always wanted to see but everyone told me it was pointless and to just live with it |
| 18:04.27 | Xinhuan | although that could be a bit more complicated than needed |
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| 18:04.42 | Ellipsis | heck, have you seen the posts I made about providing a babble-light for enUS users? |
| 18:04.50 | Xinhuan | a svn folder can have any name/value pair for a property right? |
| 18:04.55 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 18:05.33 | Xinhuan | i once suggested having a property called "tag:address" or soemthing, htat the ZIP script will use if it exists, to zip a tagged copy of the addon in the specified path |
| 18:05.38 | Xinhuan | but NOOOO people don't take suggestions |
| 18:05.42 | sylvanaar | have you profiled a LoadAddon of Babble-* |
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| 18:06.03 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: have you? |
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| 18:06.39 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis: have you? wtf? |
| 18:06.44 | Ellipsis | warmup shows that babble-* generate several MiB of garbage, for me |
| 18:07.03 | sylvanaar | this isnt about garbage |
| 18:07.10 | Xinhuan | yeah i bet those several mb are the main chunks of every locale's files you didn't need |
| 18:07.16 | Ellipsis | they are |
| 18:07.25 | nevcairiel | and get collected pretty fast again :) |
| 18:07.30 | Ellipsis | they're all the other locale tables which are being read and discarded |
| 18:08.02 | nevcairiel | they were planning on .xml based conditional loading of files |
| 18:08.04 | nevcairiel | wtb for locale |
| 18:08.18 | Ellipsis | that would be nice |
| 18:08.34 | Xinhuan | it would be A LOT easier if wow would just give us TOC fields directly to specify locale files to load |
| 18:08.53 | Xinhuan | in fact, i'll suggest that now and mail it in |
| 18:08.57 | Ellipsis | either one would work |
| 18:09.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Hurray! |
| 18:09.09 | sylvanaar | there is only 1 main chunk per file - the babbles have 1 file each - how long does it take to LoadAddon one, and how long does it take to execute the main chunk |
| 18:09.14 | Xinhuan | p.s, my contact is alexanderyoshi |
| 18:09.15 | Ellipsis | I don't care, but as an enUS user with a slow hard drive, the current system seems quite ridiculous to me |
| 18:09.21 | Xinhuan | he's one of my guild members :) |
| 18:10.11 | kenlyric | and, as a double bonus, if someone screws up a locale file, it doesn't break the whole mod... |
| 18:10.25 | Xinhuan | point noted kenlyric |
| 18:10.29 | kenlyric | (for everyone) |
| 18:10.57 | Polarina | Disabling pixelShaders, does that improve performance? |
| 18:11.05 | Xinhuan | slightly |
| 18:12.08 | Xinhuan | but if i'm correct, pixel shaders are just "functions" that your program (wow here) loads onto your graphics card to run to add special effects |
| 18:12.14 | sylvanaar | dont forget though - breaking up locales adds to the number of files, and would reduce performance for people who didnt have a process to delete the unused ones |
| 18:12.32 | Xinhuan | how so, sylvanaar? |
| 18:12.55 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar, if users cared about load times, they would use disembedded libs |
| 18:12.59 | Ellipsis | the vast majority of them don't |
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| 18:13.30 | Gnarfoz | if they knew about disembedded |
| 18:14.07 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: I think the point is that *wow* just shouldn't load them if they're not your locale |
| 18:14.10 | sylvanaar | 1 lua file could have 6-7 locale files, so the 10000 lua files Antiarc mentioned would become 60000+ |
| 18:14.14 | Mudkips | don't you hate zoning out of an instance and your bar is loaded to full but you're still staring at it |
| 18:14.33 | Xinhuan | but of the 60000+ files, you're only going to load 10000 of them and ignore the other 50000 |
| 18:14.36 | kenlyric | or, that's my point |
| 18:14.36 | Mudkips | then you finally see your character and it's dead |
| 18:14.39 | nevcairiel | actually, my loading time significantly increased with 2.3 |
| 18:14.41 | nevcairiel | it sucks |
| 18:14.46 | Xinhuan | and each of the 10000 files are 1/6 the size of the originals |
| 18:14.46 | nevcairiel | before i never had any issue |
| 18:14.48 | Polarina | Mudkips: I hate it that addons can't modify anything within GlueXML.. |
| 18:14.58 | sylvanaar | maybe related to taint logging |
| 18:15.21 | Gnarfoz | I don't get that on instance changes, just on initial login, Mudkips |
| 18:15.29 | Mudkips | would help if I knew what GlueXML was |
| 18:15.39 | Ellipsis | the login/loading screen stuff |
| 18:15.49 | Polarina | Mudkips: The character selection screen. |
| 18:16.01 | sylvanaar | yes Enhanced Password Entry |
| 18:16.11 | Polarina | sylvanaar: No, not there. |
| 18:16.20 | Mudkips | I see |
| 18:16.23 | Polarina | sylvanaar: After you enter your account username and password. |
| 18:16.53 | Mudkips | ya same with loggin in |
| 18:16.57 | sylvanaar | I know there used to be auto password entry stuff a long time ago |
| 18:17.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 18:17.07 | Mudkips | you can hear activity but you're still looking at the loading screen |
| 18:17.16 | kenlyric | yeah, I've seen that. |
| 18:17.30 | kenlyric | nice on my hunter, zone in and the mob is dead. |
| 18:17.31 | Xinhuan | no, i'm pretty sure the Login screen where you type user/pass is also GlueXML |
| 18:17.37 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 18:17.41 | Xinhuan | in fact you can find it all inside AccountLogin.xml |
| 18:17.42 | Gnarfoz | or at least was :) |
| 18:17.47 | Xinhuan | its still there |
| 18:17.56 | Xinhuan | and AccountLogin.lua |
| 18:17.57 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Where do I find that file? |
| 18:18.02 | Gnarfoz | before there was a 'remember account name' option, I had mine hard-coded into the GlueXML file |
| 18:18.06 | nevcairiel | i want to access the XML that populates my G15 LCD :( |
| 18:18.07 | Xinhuan | extract out \GlueXML\ folder |
| 18:18.11 | Xinhuan | instead of \FrameXML\ folder |
| 18:18.19 | Polarina | Xinhuan: How? |
| 18:18.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no such thing, I'd guess ^^ |
| 18:18.26 | Xinhuan | use a program that can read mpq files |
| 18:18.28 | Gnarfoz | ~uikit |
| 18:18.34 | Polarina | Xinhuan: I can't find any... |
| 18:18.38 | Xinhuan | like WinMPQ |
| 18:18.40 | Gnarfoz | or whatever that is. the blizzard extractor gives it to you. |
| 18:18.44 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: if only |
| 18:18.44 | Xinhuan | or MyWarcraftStudio |
| 18:18.46 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: there is LCDXML or something like that, but again, not accessable by addons |
| 18:18.48 | Gnarfoz | ~blizzard |
| 18:18.49 | purl | i guess blizzard is the best developer ever. or at least eyonix says so. |
| 18:18.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Polarina: google better. there's a few |
| 18:19.00 | Xinhuan | yes both of those are windows applications |
| 18:19.00 | Gnarfoz | just use the damn UI kit :p |
| 18:19.08 | Polarina | NightHawkTheSane: I did. None of them works under GNU/Linux. |
| 18:19.11 | Gnarfoz | or doesn't it extract gluexml anymore? |
| 18:19.16 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 18:19.17 | sylvanaar | no |
| 18:19.22 | nevcairiel | only FrameXML and the blizzy addons |
| 18:19.23 | Ellipsis | whoever designed the G15 display, and specifically whoever decided it should revert to melee stats whenever the applet is switched, should be shot |
| 18:19.34 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: you should be shot, too :D |
| 18:19.41 | Ellipsis | in the good way, though, right? |
| 18:19.42 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 18:19.42 | nevcairiel | stat display is stupid anyway |
| 18:19.46 | nevcairiel | wtb health history |
| 18:19.49 | nevcairiel | or something like that |
| 18:20.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Polarina: strange, in thirty seconds of googling, i found something. |
| 18:20.20 | Ellipsis | they stated their specific reason for not including health/mana display as not wanting to send that information to third party apps |
| 18:20.46 | Ellipsis | which makes sense enough I guess, but they could still improve on what's there |
| 18:21.21 | Ellipsis | the whisper display takes up the entire screen and only displays the name - they could have shown the message there quite easily >_> |
| 18:21.42 | sylvanaar | you really think they meant for it to be useful? |
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| 18:22.02 | sylvanaar | the only think useful that it does is show you your place in the login queue when you are tabbed out |
| 18:22.42 | Ellipsis | actually, I'm impressed that they accidentally managed to include useful things like bag slots, durability, and shard count |
| 18:22.48 | Ellipsis | it allowed me to get rid of a couple addons |
| 18:22.52 | kenlyric | man, I wish call to arms daily wasn't a daily. |
| 18:22.54 | kenlyric | it's AV today. |
| 18:23.00 | Ellipsis | but I wish whoever made those decisions could have been in charge of the rest of it |
| 18:23.17 | Xinhuan | kenlyric, the BG master changes the quest that he gives out every 30 minutes or so |
| 18:23.32 | Xinhuan | plus every city's BG master gives out a different BG daily |
| 18:23.39 | Xinhuan | its a bit semi-random |
| 18:23.42 | kenlyric | is this actually true? |
| 18:23.43 | Xinhuan | just abandon |
| 18:23.47 | Xinhuan | and get the quest from another BG |
| 18:23.49 | Xinhuan | i mean city |
| 18:23.53 | Xinhuan | or wait 30 min |
| 18:23.54 | kenlyric | so I don't need to suffer through alliance WSG? |
| 18:23.57 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 18:24.02 | kenlyric | hot damn! |
| 18:24.09 | kenlyric | what about cooking? |
| 18:24.21 | Xinhuan | cooking is constant over a 24 hours period i believe |
| 18:24.25 | kenlyric | do I need max cooking to get cooking recipes from the cooking daily? |
| 18:24.35 | kenlyric | that's the only thing I can figure six straight days with no recipe |
| 18:24.39 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 18:24.41 | Xinhuan | on that one |
| 18:24.45 | Xinhuan | try profession forums |
| 18:24.52 | Ellipsis | no kenlyric |
| 18:24.58 | Kalroth | Nope, just uhmm, 275 cooking |
| 18:25.03 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 18:25.03 | Kalroth | that's what the quest item requires |
| 18:25.11 | Ellipsis | most of the recipes require 275, a few only require 1 |
| 18:25.15 | CIA-8 | 03zuno * r55888 10UnitActionBars2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-8 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 18:25.18 | CIA-8 | - Updated to 2.3 TOC. |
| 18:25.26 | kenlyric | it's monstrous, because my priest has them all but kibbler's bits. |
| 18:25.37 | Ellipsis | I'll trade you my kibbler's for something useful |
| 18:25.54 | kenlyric | but I need it on my hunter, not my priest :) |
| 18:26.09 | kenlyric | I have all the rest. I need to go fish up some eels. |
| 18:26.14 | kenlyric | die critters die |
| 18:26.29 | Ellipsis | want cake recipe :( |
| 18:26.39 | kenlyric | it's delicious |
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| 18:26.56 | kenlyric | I had mine with eggnog. |
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| 18:28.21 | aestil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Aestil |
| 18:28.21 | kenlyric | well, I will... if I ever get out and farm the eggs and mageroyal. |
| 18:28.25 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: no, it's a lie, not delicious :p |
| 18:28.26 | aestil | check out the wand! :D |
| 18:28.35 | aestil | JoshBorke: hey bitch |
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| 18:28.53 | Ellipsis | aestil I hate you so much right now |
| 18:29.12 | aestil | its not a good lock wand really. |
| 18:29.15 | aestil | get solarian wand. |
| 18:29.18 | aestil | > for locks. |
| 18:29.34 | kenlyric | what color socket is it? |
| 18:29.37 | aestil | blue. |
| 18:29.44 | aestil | blue is full of fail though. |
| 18:29.51 | aestil | whereas +12 dmg, is full of win. |
| 18:29.54 | kenlyric | holy crap no. |
| 18:30.02 | kenlyric | healer wand! |
| 18:30.14 | Ellipsis | aestil: how am I supposed to get solarian wand, exactly? |
| 18:30.15 | aestil | *shrugs* |
| 18:30.23 | aestil | solarian is ez sauce. |
| 18:30.39 | Ellipsis | uh...maybe for a guild that can kill things... |
| 18:30.56 | aestil | solarian is like geddon 2.0 |
| 18:31.04 | durcyn | badge wand with a +12 is still the highest +damage available |
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| 18:31.17 | aestil | yes, but for locks, the crit is alot more valuable. |
| 18:31.28 | durcyn | depends on spec |
| 18:31.29 | dieck | for destro locks, yes |
| 18:31.40 | dieck | for affliction, crit is mostly useless :) |
| 18:31.44 | aestil | even affliction lots crit way more often than a SP. |
| 18:32.09 | aestil | and most locks at my guilds level shoudl be Shadow/destro. except we have a felgaurd lock. not sure why. |
| 18:32.29 | kebinusan | crit isnt useless for an affliction lock, at least 40% of your damage is still from shadowbolts |
| 18:32.45 | durcyn | never said useless, but damage is still more important |
| 18:33.00 | dieck | i said useless, and yes, ok, for shadowbolts it's nice |
| 18:33.04 | Eggi | SB is your #1 dmg source also as a affli lock |
| 18:33.11 | durcyn | espcially when solarian and gurtogg never drop their fecking wands ;) |
| 18:33.27 | dieck | but I'd say whenever you have to choose between +dmg and +crit, you'll chose +dmg for affliction locks |
| 18:33.40 | Ellipsis | Eggi: yeah, but +dmg affects our dots *and* SB, where crit only helps our SBs (if you don't count ISB) |
| 18:34.03 | aestil | don't affliction locks get ISB? |
| 18:34.18 | Ellipsis | yeah...but the difference is a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction there |
| 18:34.22 | Ellipsis | it's indirect benefit |
| 18:34.29 | aestil | i still think the solarian wand is better for a lock, than the heroic badge reward. |
| 18:34.44 | Ellipsis | @#^*ing spiritual soup again |
| 18:35.20 | kenlyric | fly to nagrand, fly back. Isn't it the easiest one? |
| 18:35.40 | Ellipsis | fly to nagrand, chase down like 8 clefthoofs, clear a couple mobs from the fire (without fear) ... |
| 18:35.49 | kenlyric | uh.... |
| 18:35.57 | kenlyric | you don't have to stand next to one of their fires. |
| 18:36.07 | Ellipsis | you do to cook the clefthoof meat |
| 18:36.08 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 18:36.10 | kenlyric | and, I just buy my basic meats on the AH. |
| 18:36.17 | Ellipsis | I don't have money |
| 18:36.39 | kenlyric | that's what dailies are for. |
| 18:36.40 | dieck | aestil: as it's a tier1 of course afflication locks can get the 5/5 ISB, but when raiding you'll let a destro lock keep up the debuff, I suppose, for they have more +crit |
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| 18:36.49 | kenlyric | first day pays for it, and then you have 4 or 5 days of meat left. |
| 18:37.10 | kebinusan | dieck: Eh, if you're raiding affliction you're probably 42/0/19 or something similar no reason not to have ISB |
| 18:37.15 | kebinusan | cataclysm is pretty worthless |
| 18:38.12 | dieck | kebinusan: yes, there's no reason not to have it. But if there's a destro lock with you, he'll have way more +crit, (or at least he should have), and therefore he can uphold the isb debuff much better. |
| 18:38.33 | Gnarfoz | it's not like one more WL keeping it up is a bad thing |
| 18:38.45 | kebinusan | dieck, except its not about keeping it up better, multiple locks = multiple crits = more isb uptime |
| 18:38.53 | aestil | really, destro shadow > than affliction now anywyas. |
| 18:40.01 | kebinusan | Destruction wins out in hyjal for individual DPS, but you still need an affliction lock for malediction.. besides there is really no reason to have more than 2 affliction locks in any raid |
| 18:40.02 | dieck | aestil: not until you got at least SSC/TK gear. maybe the new badge rewards changed that, I haven't yet got seen through every class, but without decent gear afflic locks did way more dmg |
| 18:40.25 | aestil | my guild is clearing through BT now, i was speaking from my perspective. |
| 18:40.44 | dieck | ok, we don't yet raid tk, not speaking of bt or hyjal |
| 18:40.51 | [AR]Camci | why doesnt EQcompare work anymore ? |
| 18:40.54 | kebinusan | And really you can think blizzard for the poor affliction itemization |
| 18:41.04 | kebinusan | *thank |
| 18:41.38 | kebinusan | the fact that hyjal/bt gear is itemized with spell haste which really serves limited benefit for an affliction lock |
| 18:42.01 | Ellipsis | limited benefit? |
| 18:42.09 | Ellipsis | that's putting it mildly |
| 18:42.13 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 18:42.20 | kebinusan | well it still affects shadow bolts |
| 18:42.29 | kebinusan | so limited seems appropriate |
| 18:43.10 | Ellipsis | yeah but...meh |
| 18:43.12 | [AR]Camci | do you uncheck "record time data" to disable the graphics on recount ? |
| 18:44.41 | Ellipsis | ok, I give up |
| 18:44.52 | Ellipsis | what other options for improved quest tracking are there |
| 18:45.06 | Ellipsis | I've tried QuestsFu, nQuestLog, and beql |
| 18:47.19 | Xyphor | Is there any way to determine (for example) fishing skill, instead of GetNumSkillLines() and GetSkillLineInfo? |
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| 18:47.53 | Polarina | Xyphor: GetFishingSkillInfo(). |
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| 18:48.12 | Xyphor | check! That is an answer :p |
| 18:48.44 | Polarina | Xyphor: It worked? |
| 18:49.06 | CIA-8 | 03ackis * r55891 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:49.07 | CIA-8 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:49.09 | CIA-8 | - Added functionality so that clicked the scan button again will close the Scan window (click it once to bring up the window, click it again to close the window) |
| 18:49.13 | Xyphor | will test |
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| 18:49.34 | Xyphor | nope :p |
| 18:50.00 | Polarina | Oh.. |
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| 18:51.22 | Industrial | ding 63 |
| 18:51.29 | Ellipsis | grats <3 |
| 18:53.24 | kenlyric | turned on my sixth automaton module last night, the BG autojoiner. |
| 18:53.58 | kenlyric | I think I'm almost back to having them all on. Gogo useless changes blizz. |
| 18:54.24 | kenlyric | Gossip is the only one they implemented fully. |
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| 18:56.27 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 18:56.53 | Ellipsis | woot, I finally got the stormchops recipe :D |
| 18:57.38 | kenlyric | hot damn! |
| 18:57.55 | Ellipsis | it's not delicious chocolate cake, but at least it's something |
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| 18:59.18 | kenlyric | is the hit food melee hit or spell hit? |
| 18:59.36 | kenlyric | or both hit |
| 18:59.45 | Ellipsis | melee |
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| 19:00.08 | Industrial | Ellipsis: :) |
| 19:00.08 | kenlyric | hoping I wasn't being dumb that my hunter would like it |
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| 19:00.27 | kenlyric | I forgot I did get one recipe on my hunter, the hit food. |
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| 19:02.38 | Ellipsis | I think that's the only green one I'm missing |
| 19:02.40 | |Stan| | TeamSpeak 3 now features support for powerful lua script (scripting language). Consequently, the "Console User Interface" users and developers will be capable of shaping the TeamSpeak client into just about anything they can imagine. |
| 19:02.44 | |Stan| | ehehehe |
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| 19:03.44 | kenlyric | it pushes my hit exactly to 5 |
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| 19:04.05 | kenlyric | % |
| 19:04.22 | cncfanatics | TS 3 does lua ? |
| 19:04.22 | cncfanatics | nerf |
| 19:04.24 | cncfanatics | woootage |
| 19:04.31 | |Stan| | yup |
| 19:04.43 | Shirik|zZz | now if they can only get it out sometime in the next decade |
| 19:04.45 | Shirik|zZz | that would be cool |
| 19:04.52 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 19:05.01 | |Stan| | TeamSpeak 3 is still in closed ALPHA, and this client is NOT available for public download. < :( |
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| 19:07.27 | Jagobah | Will teamspeak sound anything like ventrilo? |
| 19:07.50 | Shirik | supposedly it sounds just as good if not better (it has the support for several additional codecs) |
| 19:07.57 | |Stan| | Fully integrated 3D Sound support for both Client and SDK, enabling spacial placement of sound from multiple directions <. O.o |
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| 19:08.13 | |Stan| | people all around mee!! *screams* |
| 19:09.39 | Jagobah | Thank goodness. It's about time Ventrilo had some serious competition :) |
| 19:09.55 | Shirik | why do you think vent 3 came out? |
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| 19:10.11 | Jagobah | hehe |
| 19:10.12 | Ominous | i hope TS3 uses alsa and not oss sound |
| 19:10.21 | Shirik | Vent 3 doesn't really offer anything new other than the fact that stupid people think "Oh look, flagship's actually doing something!" when in fact, they're not |
| 19:10.46 | Shirik | TS3 so far, as far as I can tell, is interesting, but not "great" |
| 19:10.54 | Jagobah | All they did was revamp the crappy binding interface and fixed the comment problems |
| 19:11.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:11.07 | Shirik | one more thing they did with vent 3 |
| 19:11.25 | durcyn | how dare they fix things! |
| 19:11.26 | Shirik | took every possible request from vent admins on how to control permissions, shoved them into a box, tied it together with a piece of string and said "here you go" |
| 19:11.35 | CIA-40 | 03pettigrow * r55892 10BigBrother/localization_frFR.lua: BigBrother: frFR Update |
| 19:11.36 | Shirik | the new vent admin panel is pathetic |
| 19:11.37 | Jagobah | piece of string! |
| 19:11.55 | Jagobah | Yeah... like the duplicate IP thing <_< |
| 19:12.19 | Shirik | well that's configurable |
| 19:12.23 | Shirik | and it was in vent 2.3 also |
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| 19:21.31 | Jagobah | :) |
| 19:22.26 | Xinhuan | so |
| 19:22.42 | Xinhuan | is there a way i can copy another vent user's settings to a new user? |
| 19:22.55 | Shirik | Not as far as I can tell, and I've been annoyed by that as well |
| 19:22.58 | Xinhuan | or do i have to fucking click on the 20 checkboxes for each permission |
| 19:23.00 | Xinhuan | to give |
| 19:23.03 | Shirik | moreover, "ranks" should allow you to set those permissions |
| 19:23.10 | Shirik | instead of just some kind of user level |
| 19:23.13 | Shirik | which mostly means nothing |
| 19:23.28 | Shirik | that way if I want to change one of the groups, I just change it once |
| 19:23.31 | Shirik | not fifty billion times |
| 19:23.36 | Shirik | Once again, I reiterate |
| 19:23.48 | Shirik | The vent admin panel is nothing more than everything anyone ever wanted shoved into a box tied together with a piece of string. |
| 19:23.55 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55893 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 19:23.55 | CIA-40 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:23.55 | CIA-40 | -Added Zul'Aman item for zhTW translation. |
| 19:30.08 | Saroz | Xyphor, make powerdisplay show both +healing and mp5, would be hot |
| 19:30.22 | Antiarc | So I managed to resolve my O(n^25) algorithm into an O(n) algorithm. \m/ |
| 19:30.43 | Fisker- | \m/? |
| 19:30.44 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 19:30.49 | Antiarc | \m/ = throwing the horns |
| 19:30.53 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:30.57 | Xinhuan | oh? how |
| 19:31.07 | Xinhuan | by distributing the workload to 25 parallel processors? |
| 19:31.13 | CIA-40 | 03ackis * r55894 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:31.13 | CIA-40 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:31.13 | CIA-40 | - Added ATSW compatibility |
| 19:31.22 | Antiarc | Basically I'm just keeping state and running multiple passes, rather than trying to do the node weightings recursively |
| 19:31.41 | Antiarc | So it's an O(n) algorithm run 5 times, rather than an O(n^25) run once |
| 19:31.43 | Antiarc | Which is a lot nicer. :D |
| 19:32.09 | Xinhuan | sounds like a fibonachi thing |
| 19:32.25 | Xinhuan | where you use dynamic programming instead of recursive calls |
| 19:32.54 | Shirik | Antiarc: Yes, that is much better :P |
| 19:33.00 | Antiarc | Only slightly :P |
| 19:33.14 | Shirik | only slightly? |
| 19:33.26 | Shirik | or was that sarcastic |
| 19:33.27 | Antiarc | I'm being sarcastic. Yes, it's a vast improvement. :D |
| 19:33.30 | Shirik | hehe |
| 19:33.33 | Shirik | sorry >< |
| 19:33.36 | Antiarc | Hehe, s'cool |
| 19:33.36 | Xinhuan | or maybe its just breadth-first-search, running 5 times, instead of depth-first-search running 25 layers deep |
| 19:34.26 | Ozguli- | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oxZhxoZxMjoMGRoxs |
| 19:34.28 | Ozguli- | Rank this build! |
| 19:34.30 | Antiarc | The idea is that I just compute node weights at a 1-depth for each node in graph, and then I compute edge weights in a second pass, and then I can basically compute a node weight with a simple node weight * edge weight sum. |
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| 19:34.56 | Xinhuan | so that's breath-first-search |
| 19:35.13 | Antiarc | Ozguli-: What's your goal with the build? |
| 19:35.23 | Ozguli- | burst damage? |
| 19:35.28 | Antiarc | For what, PVP? |
| 19:35.32 | Ozguli- | sure |
| 19:35.34 | Antiarc | Arena, battleground? |
| 19:35.42 | Ozguli- | arena, for some survivability |
| 19:35.51 | Antiarc | The build is going to suffer heavily in PVE, due to lack of precision/DW spec, if you plan on using it to PVE at all |
| 19:36.01 | Antiarc | Lethality is basically a wash in PVP due to resilience |
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| 19:36.20 | CIA-40 | 03ackis * r55895 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:36.20 | CIA-40 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:36.20 | CIA-40 | - Fix for the scan button closing the scan window when using text mode |
| 19:36.22 | Antiarc | I'd go with iimp XA and murder instead |
| 19:36.25 | Shirik | why not slight of hand? |
| 19:36.31 | Shirik | isn't that like free resiliance? |
| 19:36.37 | Antiarc | Slight of Hand is good, actually. It's free resil vs melee/ranged, yeah |
| 19:36.41 | Antiarc | Though not vs spells/dots |
| 19:37.07 | Antiarc | Really though, if you want to arena as hemo, just go 31/30 |
| 19:37.18 | Ozguli- | 0/31/30? |
| 19:37.22 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 19:37.23 | Antiarc | AR prep |
| 19:37.30 | Antiarc | Easily the strongest arena build right now |
| 19:37.34 | ulic | which poisons do you guys usually use in 10-man and 25-man? |
| 19:37.40 | Antiarc | Deadly offhand, windfury mainhand |
| 19:37.42 | cncfanatics | wf mainhand, deadly OH ? |
| 19:37.52 | cncfanatics | if no wf avail instant MH |
| 19:38.05 | Ozguli- | I infact want to be mutilate envenom rogue, but atm it's not possible as I lack a proper MH dagger |
| 19:38.53 | cncfanatics | need a slow MH dagger for that |
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| 19:39.00 | cncfanatics | and u waste deadly on MH too then :/ |
| 19:39.04 | cncfanatics | and can't have wf |
| 19:39.25 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhhi0rVt0M0oZxMeoMhRox is your standard AR/Prep hemo maces arena build |
| 19:39.30 | Antiarc | Pretty devastating with the right support |
| 19:39.34 | CIA-40 | 03saroz * r55896 10Aurora/Aurora.toc: Aurora: Better description |
| 19:40.15 | Ellipsis | (it's like they're talking, but the words just don't make sense. huh.) |
| 19:40.39 | Xinhuan | (shush and stand in a corner) |
| 19:40.48 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 19:40.56 | Ozguli- | mkmkay |
| 19:41.08 | Ozguli- | I'll just fix myself some maces then |
| 19:41.16 | Ozguli- | only good ones drop from arena... |
| 19:41.23 | Ozguli- | and blacksmithing |
| 19:41.49 | Antiarc | Unfortunately, yes, but mace spec is just heads and shoulders above the rest for arena, so if you plan to arena heavily, it's worth the investment |
| 19:41.58 | Antiarc | Resilience just slaughters mutilate as a viable arena build, unfortunately |
| 19:42.04 | Polarina | Ozguli-: Wait. Are you trying to tell me that I only have to dye my copper bars black and take it to the nearest smith to get a good mace? |
| 19:42.04 | Antiarc | Which is a shame, because it's so much fun |
| 19:42.15 | Ozguli- | Polarina yes |
| 19:42.22 | Polarina | Ozguli-: Omg! |
| 19:42.34 | Shirik | how can I reset the Omen window back to the center of the screen or whatever? |
| 19:42.36 | Ozguli- | mutilate doesn't actually have high dmg output but it still keeps the opponent stunned |
| 19:42.40 | Shirik | or can someone tell me the name of the Omen main window? |
| 19:42.50 | Antiarc | It should just be OmenAnchor, I think |
| 19:43.33 | Antiarc | "/omen display center" should re-center the UI |
| 19:43.43 | Xinhuan | did you ever fix the right click on empty space bug Antiarc? |
| 19:43.49 | Antiarc | Not yet :( |
| 19:43.52 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 19:43.56 | Antiarc | I have stupidly little WoW time these days |
| 19:44.04 | Xinhuan | i believe it errors on right-clicking the "new version" bar |
| 19:44.07 | Antiarc | I log in for raids 3 days/week right now, arena afterwards, and log out |
| 19:44.17 | Xinhuan | you used a bar for that right? |
| 19:44.21 | Antiarc | No |
| 19:44.25 | Antiarc | It's just a textstring |
| 19:44.33 | Fisker- | hi |
| 19:44.34 | Xinhuan | well apparently right clicking that gives an error too |
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| 19:46.20 | Fisker- | hey sylvanaar |
| 19:46.22 | Fisker- | is that your doing? |
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| 19:46.35 | Fisker- | My 2 last entries in the chatbox are bigger fontsize |
| 19:51.10 | Industrial | logged. |
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| 19:51.15 | Xuerian | WTF'd |
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| 19:56.42 | Polarina | I sent a mail to wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com . How long does it take to get a response? |
| 19:58.26 | ulic | as blizzard says, "when it's done" :) |
| 19:58.38 | ulic | it seems to vary how fast he get's it done. |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-40 | 03scythxiii * r55897 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/skins.lua: |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-40 | cyCircled_simpleSphere: |
| 20:03.47 | CIA-40 | - .lua cyCircled organization |
| 20:04.10 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55898 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 20:04.10 | CIA-40 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 20:04.10 | CIA-40 | -Fixed typo XD |
| 20:04.39 | Ellipsis | so that whole thing with the sparklies on world objects you can use seems kinda...glitchy |
| 20:06.36 | Xuerian | Ellipsis: Blizz made more end-game content. So they made everything on the way easier... so the slavering masses can make it there even quicker and more unwashed |
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| 20:07.07 | Ellipsis | I wasn't talking about the fact that the idea itself is dumb |
| 20:07.19 | Ellipsis | I was talking about the fact that I'm tracking ore and a signpost in thelsamar is sparkling |
| 20:07.41 | Xuerian | The slavering masses ARE that dumb :( |
| 20:07.44 | CIA-40 | 03scythxiii * r55899 10cyCircled_simpleSquare/ (10 files in 2 dirs): cyCircled_simpleSquare: initial commit |
| 20:07.47 | nevcairiel | because it has a quest for you, or a quest objective ? |
| 20:07.53 | Ellipsis | no quests |
| 20:08.04 | Ellipsis | unless that signpost drops chok'sul's head |
| 20:08.18 | Ellipsis | also: it's even happening while I'm a ghost |
| 20:08.18 | Xinhuan | go click on it |
| 20:08.26 | Ellipsis | it's not clickable |
| 20:08.47 | |Stan| | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77997 <- fixed that? :) |
| 20:09.34 | Xuerian | HAHA |
| 20:09.37 | Xuerian | Er. haha. |
| 20:09.39 | Xuerian | Not that funny. |
| 20:09.46 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55900 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: Added deDE Local to Halazzi Module |
| 20:10.30 | Xinhuan | haha co-incidental. |
| 20:10.52 | Ellipsis | ok, you guys need to stop having identical nicks |
| 20:10.55 | Ellipsis | >_> |
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| 20:11.11 | Polarina | A reason why I hate DST! -> "We apologise for the realm being brought down an hour early. The Daylight Saving change had a delayed effect." |
| 20:11.28 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 20:11.34 | nevcairiel | our DST change was in oct. |
| 20:11.49 | aestil | hey, can you make nquestlog notify other members of your party who have nquestlog of quest progress? |
| 20:11.52 | kenlyric | ours was two weeks ago |
| 20:11.52 | nevcairiel | no idea if its the same day in all modern countries :P |
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| 20:12.01 | kenlyric | that's the point of it being a "delayed effect" |
| 20:12.02 | Xinhuan | its not the same day |
| 20:12.04 | Polarina | "We will be restarting the Alonsus realm shortlyto resolve an issue with the ferry linking Menethil to Auberdine. Ithas unfortunately sunk during a trip." |
| 20:12.14 | _neuron_ | aestil, it uses kemayo's quest library quixote, and it does that already |
| 20:12.37 | _neuron_ | so it also works with questsfu |
| 20:14.25 | aestil | my wife and i aren't getting alerts. |
| 20:14.33 | aestil | its in the tooltip, when you mouseover a quest. |
| 20:14.40 | aestil | but there aren't progress updates. : / |
| 20:14.48 | kadrahil | eqcompare is incompatible now? |
| 20:15.04 | Xinhuan | may i ask what eqcompare does? |
| 20:15.04 | kenlyric | it has been. |
| 20:15.09 | kenlyric | somebody just kept updating the toc |
| 20:15.15 | kadrahil | ah |
| 20:15.18 | kenlyric | arrow smote them last night. |
| 20:16.01 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: Compare equipped inventory items against items in chatframe hyperlink and bags/bank. |
| 20:16.18 | Xinhuan | doesn't the default UI do that now? |
| 20:16.20 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: so you don't have to hold shift like blizzard's default comparison |
| 20:16.23 | Xinhuan | when you hold down shift |
| 20:16.24 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: yeah i think so |
| 20:16.25 | kenlyric | don't I have something that does that? |
| 20:16.27 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55901 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.tw.lua: |
| 20:16.27 | CIA-40 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 20:16.27 | CIA-40 | - Update Arena Sets for zhTW translation. |
| 20:16.30 | kadrahil | kenlyric: you do? |
| 20:16.43 | kadrahil | yes, holding shift does it now |
| 20:16.50 | Xinhuan | so why do people use an obsolete addon? |
| 20:16.51 | kenlyric | it doesn't work in bags, but it works on... something. |
| 20:17.06 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: because i want to! :( |
| 20:17.12 | kenlyric | oh, it works in AH. |
| 20:17.32 | Xinhuan | except the default UI also works on AH, when you hold shift? |
| 20:17.36 | kenlyric | I guess that's just default, not a mod. |
| 20:17.48 | kenlyric | it's just when I hover, no shift. |
| 20:17.59 | kenlyric | might be an auctioneer thing. |
| 20:18.11 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: screenshot of your ui plz |
| 20:18.13 | Xinhuan | then all a mod needs to do, is to CHANGE the keybind |
| 20:18.19 | kadrahil | true |
| 20:18.22 | Xinhuan | from holding down shift to something else |
| 20:18.32 | kadrahil | i didn't notice they had a keybind for that |
| 20:18.50 | Xinhuan | this line |
| 20:18.51 | Xinhuan | <ModifiedClick action="COMPAREITEMS" default="SHIFT"/> |
| 20:18.57 | Xinhuan | is defined in Bindings.xml |
| 20:19.09 | Xinhuan | all they need to do is just change that to "" instead of shift |
| 20:19.15 | kadrahil | i wonder if you set it to none |
| 20:19.18 | Xinhuan | via a simple macro |
| 20:19.29 | kenlyric | it's less of an issue with ratingsbuster. |
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| 20:19.45 | kenlyric | since I can see in the summary the stat comparison |
| 20:19.49 | Xinhuan | like an addon made entirely obselete |
| 20:20.23 | Xinhuan | note also that TipHookerLib is obsolete |
| 20:20.38 | Xinhuan | all an addon needs to do is to hook :OnTooltipSetItem() |
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| 20:20.51 | Xinhuan | instead of the 15 different functions that GameTooltip has for setting items |
| 20:20.56 | Xinhuan | all these people are dumb |
| 20:21.08 | nevcairiel | or outdated =P |
| 20:21.16 | kenlyric | sometimes blizzard pretends to make things obsolete but doesn't. |
| 20:21.30 | Amadeo | Yeah, like Rogues |
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| 20:22.01 | kadrahil | and hunters |
| 20:22.01 | Xinhuan | fairely sure tiphookerlib should just be updated to hook a single Ontooltipsetitem instead of the 15 hooks it does :) |
| 20:22.32 | kenlyric | all what people? |
| 20:22.39 | nevcairiel | Doesnt tiphookerlib hook into the tips of 3rd party tooltips too? |
| 20:22.46 | nevcairiel | rather then only GameTooltip |
| 20:23.00 | Xinhuan | hmmm, i'll take a look |
| 20:23.08 | Xinhuan | yes it does |
| 20:23.11 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55902 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Anetheron.lua: BigWigs: Anetheron deDE Update |
| 20:23.11 | Fisker- | i have a fart for you |
| 20:23.36 | Xinhuan | but it also lists the 23 methods that MethodList has for gametooltip |
| 20:23.41 | Xinhuan | that ALL gets hooked |
| 20:24.05 | kenlyric | ~sofixit |
| 20:24.35 | Xinhuan | i'm not entirely sure how it works |
| 20:24.58 | Xinhuan | not without staring at the code for hours anyway |
| 20:25.09 | aestil | so, since eqcompare is broken, what isn't broken? |
| 20:25.18 | Xinhuan | tekcompare |
| 20:25.25 | Xinhuan | or you can try out my suggestion |
| 20:25.37 | Xinhuan | and simply change the <ModifiedClick action="COMPAREITEMS" default="SHIFT"/> |
| 20:25.43 | Xinhuan | into something else |
| 20:25.50 | CIA-40 | 03scythxiii * r55903 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/ (skins.lua textures/simpleSphereActive.tga): |
| 20:25.50 | CIA-40 | cyCircled_simpleSphere: |
| 20:25.50 | CIA-40 | - Fixed Active texture and cleaned up the .lua |
| 20:26.05 | Xinhuan | which is probably as simple as a one line /script |
| 20:26.52 | Ellipsis | why don't you "update" EQCompare into that one-liner then :P |
| 20:28.17 | kenlyric | a whole mod to change a single keybind. neato. |
| 20:28.23 | Xinhuan | /run SetModifiedClick("COMPAREITEMS", "ALT") |
| 20:28.24 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55904 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Archimonde deDE Update |
| 20:28.28 | Xinhuan | hmm that works to change it to ALT |
| 20:28.31 | Xinhuan | instead of SHIFT |
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| 20:28.33 | kenlyric | sounds like a job for automaton! |
| 20:28.46 | Xinhuan | when i change it to "" it doesn't do anything though |
| 20:28.50 | Xinhuan | or nil |
| 20:29.15 | nevcairiel | thats because its a ModifiedClick function |
| 20:29.29 | nevcairiel | no modifier, no modified click |
| 20:29.30 | Xinhuan | so there needs to be at least one modifier? |
| 20:30.10 | nevcairiel | it should be easy to implement the blizzard compare tooltip without the modifier, should be like 3 lines or so |
| 20:30.34 | kenlyric | so what does tekkompare do? |
| 20:30.43 | kenlyric | or is it just 3 lines? |
| 20:30.45 | Xinhuan | can't get modifiedclicks to work without at least a click, so... oh well |
| 20:30.48 | aestil | i liked that eqcompare turned hyperlinked items into the compare thing. |
| 20:30.49 | Ellipsis | tekkompare does some extra stuff |
| 20:31.06 | aestil | does tekkcompare do that? |
| 20:31.06 | Ellipsis | e.g. mouseover links in chat displays the tooltip, without having to click |
| 20:31.29 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:31.30 | Fisker- | sylvanaar i needs you :I |
| 20:31.34 | kenlyric | so, not made obsolete by blizzard |
| 20:31.43 | Ellipsis | right |
| 20:32.06 | nevcairiel | basic tekKompare.lua does only item-mouse-over compare |
| 20:32.11 | Xinhuan | can't you just hook Ontooltipsetitem, and parent the compare tooltip to it and show it? |
| 20:33.28 | nevcairiel | thats what tekKompare does |
| 20:33.31 | Xinhuan | and change the comparetooltip as necessary |
| 20:33.37 | Xinhuan | that indeed sounds like 3 lines to me |
| 20:34.07 | Ellipsis | it's not made obsolete, though |
| 20:34.25 | nevcairiel | its a bit more, tekKompare does some checks, to show the tooltip on the right side to not go out of screen |
| 20:34.36 | Xinhuan | the default UI does htat check too |
| 20:34.48 | Xinhuan | if it goes offscreen, it moves all the tooltips accordingly |
| 20:35.11 | Xinhuan | the default UI shows the comparetooltip on the left |
| 20:36.12 | Xinhuan | however, i think the main complaint is that tekcompare doesn't work well with being skinned ;p |
| 20:36.20 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:36.29 | Xinhuan | the thread was complaining about the borders |
| 20:36.33 | Xinhuan | on tek's tooltip |
| 20:36.41 | kenlyric | just get RB. |
| 20:36.59 | Xinhuan | RB hasn't even been updated since patch 2.3 |
| 20:37.06 | Xinhuan | its horribly broken for healing patterns |
| 20:37.39 | nevcairiel | whats broken? |
| 20:37.45 | Xinhuan | rating buster |
| 20:37.49 | Xinhuan | statlogiclib specifically |
| 20:37.50 | kenlyric | yeah, but tooltip comparison won't do anything for patterns. |
| 20:38.07 | Xinhuan | consider tearDrop living ruby |
| 20:38.14 | nevcairiel | what pattern is broken? |
| 20:38.36 | Xinhuan | the new text of it now says "+18 healing and +6 spell damage" |
| 20:38.41 | Xinhuan | that's teardrop living ruby |
| 20:38.51 | Xinhuan | you'll find that it adds 24 healing and 6 damage to its calculation. |
| 20:39.02 | nevcairiel | that only affects the summary i guess |
| 20:39.04 | Xinhuan | the wording change isn't consisten either |
| 20:39.04 | nevcairiel | which id ont use |
| 20:39.23 | kenlyric | summary is what makes it a replacement for two tooltips :) |
| 20:39.37 | Xinhuan | for eg, the 81 healing enchant is now worded "+81 Healing Spells and +27 Damage Spells" |
| 20:39.56 | Xinhuan | but the 55 healing enchant is now worded "+55 Healing and +19 Spell Damage" |
| 20:40.06 | Xinhuan | want to know more? |
| 20:40.30 | nevcairiel | meh i only use it for converting ratings and stuff |
| 20:40.38 | Xinhuan | Royal Nightseye is now worded "+9 Healing +3 Spell Damage and +2 Mana every 5 seconds" |
| 20:40.39 | nevcairiel | and how much reg spirit gets me |
| 20:40.40 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 20:40.45 | Ellipsis | [12:37:55 pm] <Xinhuan> however, i think the main complaint is that tekcompare doesn't work well with being skinned ;p <<actually the border issue is a CowTip bug and affects the default Blizz compare tooltips as well |
| 20:40.59 | Xinhuan | so its actually a skinner bug? |
| 20:41.16 | Ellipsis | I know CowTip causes that problem, no clue if skinner does since I don't use it |
| 20:41.41 | Ellipsis | the only reason EQC escapes is that it hasn't been updated, ironically |
| 20:42.02 | Ellipsis | it creates its own tooltip that CowTip doesn't know about, so it doesn't attempt to skin it, so no funky borders appear |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55905 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: Najentus deDE Update |
| 20:42.13 | Xinhuan | maybe it constructed its own tooltip instead of inheriting one |
| 20:42.21 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 20:42.58 | aestil | the default in game compare frame is being properly skinned by cowtip for me. |
| 20:43.18 | Ellipsis | do you use a custom border texture? |
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| 20:43.27 | kenlyric | does the default UI dismount you now when you go to a flight master? |
| 20:43.31 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 20:43.39 | kenlyric | so why doesn't it unshift you? |
| 20:43.46 | kenlyric | can blizzard be that dumb? |
| 20:44.00 | Xinhuan | its always dismounted you sincemonths ago |
| 20:44.05 | Xinhuan | not even a 2.3 change |
| 20:44.11 | aestil | custom border texture? as in, something not standard with cowtip? no. |
| 20:44.13 | kenlyric | the unshift thing is. |
| 20:44.13 | Xinhuan | was more like 2.1 or 2.0 |
| 20:44.44 | kenlyric | well, i've used automaton since 2.0, so I never knew what the default client did. |
| 20:45.21 | Xinhuan | you can turn off /console autoDismount 0 <-- this one turns off the auto dismounting so you don't dismount at all while you are on a landmount and you accidentally right click on something to attack it |
| 20:45.41 | kenlyric | thanks for the helpful tip? |
| 20:46.06 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55906 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: BigWigs: Supremus deDE Update |
| 20:47.50 | Ellipsis | aestil: can you verify that cowtip skins your default blizz compare tooltips? it didn't last I checked |
| 20:47.58 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55907 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: BigWigs: Teron deDE Update |
| 20:49.53 | aestil | i just checked it |
| 20:50.09 | aestil | i pushed shift, and my tooltip was the same on both. |
| 20:50.25 | Ellipsis | hmm |
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| 20:52.20 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55908 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: Illidan deDE Update |
| 20:54.01 | CIA-40 | 03scythxiii * r55909 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:54.01 | CIA-40 | cyCircled_simpleSphere: |
| 20:54.01 | CIA-40 | - Overhauled the textures and fixed the coding to make it work (finally) |
| 20:55.55 | CIA-40 | 03scythxiii * r55910 10cyCircled_simpleSquare/ (. skins.lua): |
| 20:55.55 | CIA-40 | cyCircled_simpleSquare: |
| 20:55.55 | CIA-40 | - Edited skins.lua |
| 20:56.07 | Fisker- | who has iphone in here? |
| 20:58.39 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55911 10BigWigs/Extras/ (CustomBar.lua Proximity.lua): BigWigs: CustomBar / Proximity deDE Update |
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| 21:08.10 | aestil | so, why is nquestlog not doing the notifications of my wifes stuff, or my stuff to her? |
| 21:09.20 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night |
| 21:09.24 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 21:09.40 | RaydenUni | how hard would it be to generate a pdf? i've never messed with pdf's before |
| 21:09.46 | Amadeo | no wonder nothing works for me |
| 21:09.56 | Glorian | RaydenUni its easy |
| 21:10.17 | Glorian | you can do create PDFs easy with a PDF Print driver |
| 21:11.04 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 21:11.10 | RaydenUni | looks like i'll have to figure out pdf markup |
| 21:11.16 | RaydenUni | although i dont know what else to expect |
| 21:11.33 | RaydenUni | you know any resources you would recommend i look at first? |
| 21:11.58 | aestil | i touch myself during the day though too, to balance it out. |
| 21:12.01 | CIA-40 | 03gamefaq * r55912 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Added deDE Local to Flash Module |
| 21:12.02 | kergoth | aestil: pretty sure it sends it out, but you'd need PartyToGo to show it |
| 21:12.21 | Ellipsis | nquestlog should show it in the tooltip for the quest |
| 21:12.23 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55913 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
| 21:12.31 | aestil | wtf. |
| 21:12.35 | Ellipsis | it will say each person's name and then x/y objectives |
| 21:12.36 | aestil | quest fu didn't need that. |
| 21:12.39 | kebinusan | I love how they postoned the season to be 'fair' now everyone is exploiting the ladder system to raise their rating |
| 21:12.44 | aestil | it does. |
| 21:12.46 | aestil | in the tooltip |
| 21:13.04 | aestil | i want little notifications to like a parrot scroll area that she picked up something, or finished a quest, etc. |
| 21:13.05 | Ellipsis | also, whoever was saying that I'm crazy because I complain about weird sparklies: http://i2.tinypic.com/7ygdrls.png |
| 21:13.07 | aestil | questfu does this. |
| 21:13.29 | aestil | loot that signpost bitch! |
| 21:13.31 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 21:13.34 | RaydenUni | this isn't #rubyonrails |
| 21:13.39 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 21:13.40 | RaydenUni | my bad |
| 21:14.06 | Ellipsis | aestil: I'm trying!! |
| 21:16.01 | aestil | so, the notifications to a scroll area in parrot? |
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| 21:16.01 | Ellipsis | not sure if it does that, check the options? |
| 21:16.31 | kergoth | if it doesnt, PartyToGo does exactly that as long as the other people in your party are running an addon that uses Quixote (questsfu, nql, etc) |
| 21:18.07 | kenlyric | you can even sticky them |
| 21:18.21 | kenlyric | so they stay around longer. |
| 21:18.40 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: and your gathering tracker doesn't show anything there? |
| 21:19.10 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 21:19.12 | buu | Ew wgnomes. |
| 21:19.21 | Ellipsis | and it doesn't matter if I switch between mining/herb |
| 21:19.23 | Ellipsis | it still sparkles |
| 21:19.30 | aestil | WAU mod? |
| 21:19.33 | kenlyric | no quests with something to pick up that might be buried under the ground? |
| 21:19.46 | kenlyric | I can't think of any quests in that area like that. |
| 21:20.05 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 21:20.16 | Ellipsis | I tried abandoning my quests, and found the one it seemed to associate with it |
| 21:20.27 | Ellipsis | "In Defense of the King's Lands" - a quest to kill troggs. |
| 21:20.32 | Ellipsis | when I abandoned that one, the sparklies stopped |
| 21:20.59 | kenlyric | hmmm. |
| 21:21.13 | Xinhuan | didn't the quest start from that poster? |
| 21:21.14 | Ellipsis | I'm gonna grab it again and check that it comes back |
| 21:21.17 | Ellipsis | no |
| 21:21.29 | Ellipsis | that quest is the 3rd in a chain from a mountaineer in the tower to the south |
| 21:21.54 | Ellipsis | and the only wanted poster in thelsamar is all the way across the town from that signpost |
| 21:22.09 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 21:22.12 | Xinhuan | try completing that quest |
| 21:22.15 | buu | Man, it would be so cool if I could level through the alliance quest zones. |
| 21:23.03 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I will check the sparklies again once I get around to working on that quest |
| 21:23.13 | Ellipsis | atm I'm a bit low level to complete it |
| 21:25.08 | Ellipsis | verified that the sparklies came back after re-accepting the quest |
| 21:25.15 | Ellipsis | that's some fail |
| 21:28.36 | buu | Ellipsis: Maybe they know something you don't. |
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| 21:30.32 | Ellipsis | there are troggs buried under this signpost?! |
| 21:30.37 | buu | Yes! |
| 21:30.44 | Ellipsis | those dirty dwarves |
| 21:30.56 | Ellipsis | they're trying to hide my quest mobs from me! |
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| 21:33.20 | Obelixprime | For pitbull, is it possible to set the zoom of the portrait? |
| 21:33.57 | dylanm | Don't believe so, beyond the full-body/face option. |
| 21:34.40 | Ellipsis | I wonder if I should even bother reporting this bug |
| 21:34.53 | Ellipsis | it sounds just lame enough to be in patch notes somewhere |
| 21:35.17 | Ellipsis | "Fixed an issue where a signpost in Thelsamar was sparkling while on an unrelated quest." |
| 21:35.36 | dylanm | My bad I should not have submitted that request for MOAR SPARKLEZZ a couple months ago. |
| 21:35.43 | Nargiddley | I've had some weird stuff happen with sparking items |
| 21:36.10 | kenlyric | it's related. |
| 21:36.25 | kenlyric | "moved permanent trogg corpse above ground" |
| 21:37.31 | Nargiddley | doing the druid quest in ungoro that adds a drop to the Bloodperal sprouts, only some were sparking and by the end it seemed that only the ones that actually dropped the item sparkled |
| 21:37.48 | kenlyric | helpful. |
| 21:37.52 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 21:38.03 | Nargiddley | probably not intended however heh |
| 21:38.03 | kenlyric | sparkle is so amazingly useful for quest items. |
| 21:38.25 | Ellipsis | yeah, when the quest items are actually the things sparkling |
| 21:38.25 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 21:38.33 | kenlyric | they are |
| 21:38.39 | kenlyric | it's just underground. |
| 21:39.33 | Obelixprime | its just when i put the portrait as a bar in pitbull i see my toons nose and lip |
| 21:39.36 | Obelixprime | i want to see his eyes |
| 21:39.51 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, that would almost make sense except that it doesn't |
| 21:39.59 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=263 |
| 21:40.04 | kenlyric | it does with a combination of other bugs. |
| 21:42.04 | kenlyric | namely, that the mob is being killed by the patrol but not tagged to the npc properly. |
| 21:42.19 | kenlyric | guess it still doesn't make sense |
| 21:42.25 | Ellipsis | ...so looting the corpse gives me "slain" credit? |
| 21:42.29 | kenlyric | report it |
| 21:42.38 | kenlyric | become famous, write a memoir. |
| 21:42.44 | Ellipsis | good idea |
| 21:42.57 | kenlyric | they moved a plant I reported once. But I'm sure 10k other people did too. |
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| 21:43.54 | aestil | is there a way to type in an item id and have the game convert it inot a hyperlink? |
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| 21:44.31 | Polarina | aestil: Yes. |
| 21:45.00 | Polarina | aestil: local link = select(2, GetItemInfo(<item ID>)) |
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| 21:46.57 | aestil | ok, and then how do i find an item id? wowhead has that info? |
| 21:47.09 | Ellipsis | it's in the wowhead url, in fact |
| 21:49.01 | aestil | do i need a / command or somethign? |
| 21:49.24 | Ellipsis | if you want to do it ingame the lazy way is /print GetItemInfo(<ID>) |
| 21:49.31 | Ellipsis | then you can shift-click the link in your chat frame |
| 21:49.36 | Ellipsis | it'll spam you a bit though |
| 21:49.43 | dylanm | Ellipsis: If you have an Ace mod installed. |
| 21:49.48 | Polarina | Ellipsis: That command doesn't exist in-game. |
| 21:49.49 | Ellipsis | aestil has Ace mods |
| 21:49.54 | dylanm | Alrighty. |
| 21:49.59 | dylanm | :D |
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| 21:50.43 | Ellipsis | aestil: if you do it regularly you might want to try Sniff or something to make it easier |
| 21:51.16 | aestil | not regularlay |
| 21:51.39 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.42 | aestil | like that? |
| 21:51.45 | Ellipsis | without the <> |
| 21:51.46 | aestil | needs angle brackets? |
| 21:51.48 | aestil | kk |
| 21:51.52 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55914 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
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| 21:56.47 | RaydenUni | ace mod for comparing items to my currently equipped items? |
| 21:57.14 | Ellipsis | hold shift |
| 21:57.22 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 21:57.29 | Ellipsis | you heard me |
| 21:57.33 | RaydenUni | is eqcompare being developed again? |
| 21:57.41 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 21:57.49 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: they build that into the default UI quite some time ago, hold shift down |
| 21:57.53 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 21:57.58 | Kuja^ | is there a better (faster) way to set a focus then /focus? |
| 21:58.03 | Xinhuan | it was at least 8 months ago RaydenUni |
| 21:58.07 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:58.10 | Orionshock | but if you want something by default, then use tekKompare |
| 21:58.12 | Ellipsis | Kuja^: you can bind a key to it in the blizz keybindings options |
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| 21:59.24 | RaydenUni | i use alt q and alt e |
| 21:59.44 | Zhinjio | 09:01 < thul> Zhinjio: i posted it in my coders channel :-P <--- what does that mean? |
| 22:01.11 | Zhinjio | ~seen Arrowmaster |
| 22:01.16 | purl | arrowmaster is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 19h 52m 40s) #wowace (1d 19h 52m 40s) #wowwiki (1d 19h 52m 40s). Has said a total of 156 messages. Is idling for 9h 49m 26s, last said: 'yes'. |
| 22:01.20 | Zhinjio | ~seen thul |
| 22:01.21 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace (10d 6h 58m 3s). Has said a total of 455 messages. Is idling for 5h 48m 26s, last said: 'pong'. |
| 22:04.05 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 22:05.20 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013595&sid=1 omg keylogger |
| 22:05.24 | Fisker- | WAU = Keylogger |
| 22:06.21 | Ellipsis | wouldn't surprise me |
| 22:06.52 | kenlyric | so it logs F10 and F7. big deal |
| 22:07.36 | Zhinjio | can any of y'all take a look at http://www.pastey.net/77992 and tell me why the SV doesn't |
| 22:07.39 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:07.56 | kenlyric | people just seriously don't get that av doesn't protect against new threats. |
| 22:08.31 | Ellipsis | I has an antivirus, therefore I'm immune no matter what random stuff I download off the interwebs! |
| 22:08.34 | Ellipsis | duhhh |
| 22:08.40 | kenlyric | though, it does use 3rd party ads through the ie display engine, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities. |
| 22:09.03 | Nargiddley | Zhinjio, defaults dont get saved to the SV, only changed values |
| 22:10.07 | Polarina | Since I threw the window out of itself, I never got any viruses, spywares or anything of that kind. |
| 22:11.58 | Zhinjio | Nargiddley: what does this mean in the SetProfile documentation? "Defaults will properly transfer to the new profile without harm." |
| 22:12.22 | Zhinjio | and ... if thats the case, why have defaults at all? What would be the point? |
| 22:12.50 | Nargiddley | its the default settings for the profile |
| 22:12.58 | kenlyric | hmmm... the transfer and then can be changed? |
| 22:13.04 | kenlyric | *they |
| 22:13.17 | Zhinjio | well, thats my point, they don't transfer. |
| 22:13.31 | Zhinjio | in that pastey, I get one thing in my SV ... the one value I set. None of the defaults are present. |
| 22:13.34 | Zhinjio | oh, wait. |
| 22:13.37 | Nargiddley | they do, they just arent written to the SV file |
| 22:13.41 | Nargiddley | because they are the default |
| 22:13.48 | Zhinjio | OOOOOoohhhh. |
| 22:14.11 | Zhinjio | so calls to those values still work, comparisons, etc. |
| 22:14.20 | Zhinjio | they just don't show up. |
| 22:14.22 | Zhinjio | in the SV |
| 22:14.24 | Zhinjio | wow. |
| 22:14.37 | Zhinjio | thats ... hmm. I'm not sure I like that. |
| 22:14.49 | Zhinjio | (not that thats at all relevant) |
| 22:19.28 | CIA-40 | 03archarodim * r55915 10Decursive/ (12 files): |
| 22:19.28 | CIA-40 | Decursive: |
| 22:19.28 | CIA-40 | - Spells handled by pets will no longer interrupt the player spells (when using the MUFs) |
| 22:19.28 | CIA-40 | - Workaround for polymorph spells name change in WoW 2.3 (Decursive was no longer casting rank 1 of this spell...) |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-40 | - Miscellaneous syntax problems fix in localization.tw.lua (';' and ',' aren't the same) |
| 22:19.30 | CIA-40 | - Clarification in the different localization files |
| 22:19.54 | harldephin | uh |
| 22:21.33 | kenlyric | Zhinjio: that's how every addon works, afaik. |
| 22:21.57 | kenlyric | writing defaults to the SV would just be having the same thing twice. |
| 22:22.21 | kenlyric | firefox's prefs.js works the same way. |
| 22:24.16 | kenlyric | in fact, every .ini file i've ever seen works that way :) |
| 22:24.25 | Zhinjio | I don't disagree with the method... but it makes looking at the SV far less clear to the unexperienced eye. People will look for settings, and not find them. |
| 22:24.44 | Zhinjio | anyway, w/w |
| 22:24.45 | Zhinjio | w/e |
| 22:24.46 | kenlyric | I doubt that very much. |
| 22:24.54 | kenlyric | people who look in the SV know better :) |
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| 22:26.34 | Hjalte | If a target dodges someones attacks a lot, can he get any stat to improve it? |
| 22:26.51 | charon | expertise |
| 22:29.37 | Thelyna | make sure the attacker has full weapon skill? |
| 22:29.38 | harldephin | that usually happens to me when the enemy is more than 3 levels above my own |
| 22:29.58 | Thelyna | one of our prot warriors had to spend some time with a level 3 grey dagger after our first time in kael p4 |
| 22:30.59 | Antiarc | WWS has failed to show any significant boost in dodge for +3 mobs |
| 22:31.09 | Antiarc | They get an additional +0.6% due to the level diff, but that's it. |
| 22:32.33 | Antiarc | (I love the rogue kick for that specific reason. BOOT TO THE HEAD + caster = party) |
| 22:33.09 | sb | hmm Cryect - wtb html export in recount *hides* :p |
| 22:33.46 | nevcairiel | expertise is great, you dont need much to stop parry/dodge on normal mobs |
| 22:33.52 | nevcairiel | amazing :) |
| 22:34.39 | |Stan| | Antiarc: I just want to know if you fixed the ZA thing in omen |
| 22:36.51 | kenlyric | also, wtb automatic max size reset. |
| 22:37.23 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = nil; if blort then print("Foo") else print("Bar") end |
| 22:37.31 | Antiarc | Human sword/mace combat rogues for the win. |
| 22:37.36 | kenlyric | recount gets so abnormally large in aV. |
| 22:37.38 | Zhinjio | yikes. dead purl. |
| 22:37.39 | Antiarc | Getting 80 expertise rating for free is pretty leet. |
| 22:37.58 | kenlyric | it's not that free. |
| 22:38.02 | kenlyric | you have to be human |
| 22:38.22 | durcyn | yeah, that's a pretty steep price |
| 22:38.36 | kenlyric | I know, I suffered for best priest racial too. |
| 22:39.05 | Thelyna | kenlyric: draenai shadow priest? ;p |
| 22:39.35 | Thelyna | oh wait, we had this discussion before didn't we? |
| 22:39.37 | kenlyric | human holy priest |
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| 22:41.56 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r55916 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
| 22:43.38 | Arrowmaster | wtf i cant get my mouse3-5 working in wow now |
| 22:44.51 | Xinhuan | solution: pull out mouse, plug in mouse. |
| 22:44.55 | kenlyric | because logitech and microsoft are both dumb, I have to remap 4 and 5 to Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V |
| 22:45.41 | kenlyric | rather than a more sensible copy/paste system inside the mouse software. |
| 22:45.45 | Arrowmaster | ok restarted wow after opening setpoint and closing it, and it works now |
| 22:46.32 | kenlyric | sometimes my button 4, which is bound to autorun, fails for no good reason. |
| 22:47.08 | Arrowmaster | i logged in and hit mouse3 to mount up and was like wtf im not mounting |
| 22:47.27 | Arrowmaster | and i have mouse5 bound to look behind me and it wasnt working either |
| 22:47.41 | Ozguli- | my mouse works just fine |
| 22:47.46 | Ozguli- | mmh. |
| 22:48.00 | kenlyric | hmmm.. I guess we're not talking about you then. |
| 22:48.17 | Ozguli- | you're just failing, I use logitech and ms software as well |
| 22:48.39 | kenlyric | yeah, i didn't blame the software for that issue. |
| 22:48.54 | Xinhuan | i use a razer mouse and it hasn't ever failed on mouse4567 yet ;p |
| 22:49.09 | kenlyric | I blame them for the crazy binds. |
| 22:49.14 | Ellipsis | mouse4/5 randomly stopped working for me with my logitech as well |
| 22:49.16 | Arrowmaster | i opened setpoint and checked setting then closed it, still didnt work, closed wow, opened setpoint and checked settings again and closed it, started wow and they worked again |
| 22:49.21 | kenlyric | like the fact that the middle mouse button defaults to zoom. |
| 22:49.32 | kenlyric | when it should default to *fucking middle mouse button* |
| 22:49.47 | Xinhuan | ?_? |
| 22:49.51 | Ozguli- | yeah that's damn annoying |
| 22:50.01 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: the problem is in wow. |
| 22:50.08 | kenlyric | sometimes just resetting the keybinding works. |
| 22:50.12 | kenlyric | but sometimes not. |
| 22:50.17 | Arrowmaster | i have my middle mouse set to middle mouse, and 4-5 set to generic, 6 unbound, 7-8 to change sensitivity |
| 22:50.27 | Arrowmaster | no it wasnt the keybindings |
| 22:50.30 | Arrowmaster | i tried that |
| 22:50.45 | Arrowmaster | it didnt recognize me pressing mouse 3-5 in the keybindings ui |
| 22:51.08 | Ozguli- | I just have... a m3 bind for a random skill, no idea thumb button for track forward and other for voice chat/ventrilo/teamspeak |
| 22:51.48 | Ozguli- | can't see why you want that much stuff on mouse anyway |
| 22:51.56 | Hjalte | Is anyone else having Recount displaying everyone twice during a fight if you tick "Autoswitch known fight" in the options? |
| 22:52.06 | Ozguli- | except that look behind function sounded cool |
| 22:52.15 | kenlyric | i have them all bound to something, all modifiers, except 4 and 5 can't be bound to ctrl since they're already ctrl-v/ctrl-c |
| 22:52.45 | Ozguli- | Arrowmaster, how does that look behind thing work? |
| 22:53.09 | Xinhuan | press Z |
| 22:53.15 | Xinhuan | default key for looking behind you |
| 22:53.25 | Ozguli- | no it isn't |
| 22:53.28 | Ellipsis | z is default for unsheathing weapons |
| 22:53.36 | Xinhuan | hmm i have mine bound to Z then |
| 22:53.40 | Ellipsis | fail :P |
| 22:53.45 | Ozguli- | I can't even find that from config |
| 22:53.47 | Xinhuan | i prob rebinded unsheath to something else.. like . |
| 22:53.53 | Arrowmaster | i have a modified version of an old mod called WatchYourBack |
| 22:54.01 | Ozguli- | probably... explain more, I'll read it tomorrow |
| 22:54.02 | kenlyric | I finally, after oh so many moons, bound binding heal to a mouse button. |
| 22:54.04 | Ozguli- | with links please |
| 22:54.07 | Xinhuan | uh its in the default UI now Arrowmaster |
| 22:54.10 | Arrowmaster | i hold down mouse5 and i look behind me, release it and im looking forward again |
| 22:54.15 | Arrowmaster | no the default ui one sucks |
| 22:54.26 | Arrowmaster | press once to look behind, press again to look forward |
| 22:56.45 | Fisker- | oh u Antiarc |
| 22:56.50 | Fisker- | you has a rogue |
| 22:57.05 | Fisker- | "some keylogger probably hopped onto the downloading stream while it was downloading or somethin.. idk how they get in there but hey anythings possible for a hacker.." <-wtf |
| 22:57.19 | Antiarc | That made me WTF too |
| 22:57.25 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 22:57.28 | Antiarc | Tempted to reply "I hopped on your mom's download stream last night" |
| 22:57.31 | Ellipsis | I love it |
| 22:57.39 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 22:58.13 | Fisker- | do you get away with that stuff on the US forums? |
| 22:58.18 | Antiarc | Likely not |
| 22:58.23 | Antiarc | Which is why I am not posting it |
| 22:58.26 | Fisker- | I got a week ban for linking to a page with a rickroll embed, which wasn't even part of the content |
| 22:58.31 | Fisker- | on the eu forums |
| 22:59.09 | Fisker- | not to mention the "You can't use ASCII-art, but we can"-rule |
| 23:00.41 | Fisker- | HOLY SHIT EPIC |
| 23:00.50 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013493&sid=1 |
| 23:00.58 | Fisker- | This thread is SO EPIC THAT I CRAPPED MY PANTS |
| 23:01.40 | Fisker- | that's why i love the US forums |
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| 23:07.58 | Antiarc | "Chess champ Garry Kasparov captured last knight by police. Was one of many pawns arrested protesting Putin's attempt to be king. Kasparov now in cell protecting his bishop from some queen." |
| 23:08.02 | Antiarc | I love Fark headlines. I can't help it. |
| 23:08.59 | Fisker- | >D |
| 23:09.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-40 | 03quagmire * r55917 10nQuestLog/ (10 files in 8 dirs): |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-40 | nQuestLog:Minor code cleanup |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-40 | nQuestLog:Notifications |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-40 | - Added option to hide Blizzard objective notifications |
| 23:09.17 | CIA-40 | - Added option to show quest names in objective notifications |
| 23:09.18 | CIA-40 | - Changed default output for SinkLib to the Blizzard error frame |
| 23:09.20 | CIA-40 | - Corrected localization-unfriendly strings |
| 23:10.46 | RaydenUni | as a 19 druid how should i play BG? |
| 23:10.51 | RaydenUni | i know flag runner, but mostly in bear form or not? |
| 23:11.04 | Antiarc | I would expect in |
| 23:11.28 | Polarina | What is the purpose of battleground twinks? |
| 23:11.29 | dylanm | Def. bear form. What would be the disadvantages of that? |
| 23:11.32 | Antiarc | Humanoid-form druids are pretty easy kills, generally |
| 23:12.22 | RaydenUni | no range |
| 23:12.28 | RaydenUni | i've just never played a druid |
| 23:12.32 | RaydenUni | and i suck at duels so far :P |
| 23:12.40 | RaydenUni | so i'm wondering |
| 23:12.41 | Antiarc | Well, when you're flag running, you aren't on offense, so you don't need the range |
| 23:12.48 | Antiarc | You're just supposed to be hard to kill. |
| 23:14.46 | Fisker- | why won't people read my epic link? :( |
| 23:15.36 | RaydenUni | and i wouldnt' consider myself a twink |
| 23:15.43 | RaydenUni | i just found i enjoy running bg |
| 23:15.55 | RaydenUni | my 29 rogue which is sorta twinked out doesn't even have all the rewrards yet |
| 23:15.58 | RaydenUni | but bg with a rogue is fun |
| 23:16.15 | RaydenUni | i tried WSG with my 70 spriest the other day, i found all the drinking i had to do annoying |
| 23:18.31 | QuantumDelta | Antiarc |
| 23:18.36 | QuantumDelta | there is one pro for being in caster |
| 23:18.42 | QuantumDelta | moonfire warriors = no charge |
| 23:18.52 | QuantumDelta | then bare for the intercept if they even have the rage! |
| 23:21.22 | Antiarc | I guess you don't have feral faerie fire by that point |
| 23:21.46 | fridgid | does kael still run wowace.com? |
| 23:22.09 | fridgid | i think that was the name |
| 23:22.44 | Antiarc | Kaelten, yes |
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| 23:24.02 | fridgid | is kaelten around? |
| 23:24.05 | fridgid | guess not |
| 23:24.10 | Antiarc | ~seen Kaelten |
| 23:24.13 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 21h 9m 43s ago, saying: 'heh you can try it '. |
| 23:24.14 | rhave | does anyone know where i can get wau 2.0? |
| 23:24.19 | Antiarc | ~wau2 |
| 23:24.20 | purl | methinks wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 23:24.30 | rhave | ok thanks |
| 23:24.37 | fridgid | i just had a few logistical questions about wowace.com |
| 23:25.24 | Antiarc | I don't know how much you'd have to ask Kaelten about it, but the daily ops are pretty well known to a number of us |
| 23:25.29 | Antiarc | Ask and if we can answer we will! |
| 23:28.59 | Orionshock | some one needs to update atlas loot -- the halaa vendor dosen't have the mount anymore |
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| 23:30.08 | aestil | so, is there any mod that does compare tooltips for mouseover hyperlinks in chat? |
| 23:30.20 | Ellipsis | ...tekkompare? |
| 23:30.34 | aestil | you can just mouse over a hyperlink? thats win. |
| 23:31.04 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 23:31.50 | aestil | but it won't skin the compare tooltip? [cowtip] |
| 23:32.58 | Ellipsis | cowtip will, yes |
| 23:33.18 | Ellipsis | tekkompare uses the same tooltip as the default UI, so anything you see on the default UI's compare tip will be there on tek's |
| 23:34.04 | Orionshock | way i got around it was to turn off the tool tip boarder from cow tip and use skinner |
| 23:34.26 | Ellipsis | aestil isn't having the border bug, so that's not really necessary |
| 23:34.37 | Orionshock | oh |
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| 23:34.44 | Orionshock | well nevermind.... |
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| 23:35.07 | todd` | are warlocks and warriors still the best classes for pvp? |
| 23:35.45 | aestil | in 2's? |
| 23:35.51 | aestil | warlocks are very good in 2's |
| 23:35.58 | aestil | not as good in 5's |
| 23:36.12 | Ellipsis | ok, now this is just weird |
| 23:36.30 | Ellipsis | an action being blocked due to taint appears to *prevent* a UI bug |
| 23:37.25 | aestil | what UI bug? |
| 23:39.14 | Ellipsis | has to do with resummoning the same pet you already have active |
| 23:39.50 | Ellipsis | the pet bar stays permanently disabled as if the summoning disorientation is still in effect, even though it's not |
| 23:40.03 | Ellipsis | haven't ruled out that one being an addon issue though, so meh |
| 23:41.09 | Orionshock | i have a solution to /that/ problem... only 2 real pet classes in the game, so delete them they are over powered anyways ; then for mages give em something else after nerfing the rest of their class too.... see problem solved. |
| 23:41.16 | Orionshock | ... few problems solved... :D |
| 23:41.40 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:41.53 | dylanm | Get ready for a deathcoil |
| 23:42.27 | NightHawkTheSane | that's an odd bug. why would you be resummoning a pet you already have out, anyway? |
| 23:42.55 | dylanm | Not mine. |
| 23:43.12 | dylanm | If memory serves, that's what Ellipsis plays. |
| 23:43.17 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSane: playing a low level alt using the VW to tank, resummon him just as he dies |
| 23:43.22 | Ellipsis | = infinite win |
| 23:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 23:45.28 | ag` | yes todd` |
| 23:45.40 | ag` | warriors and warlocks are still the best classes for pvp |
| 23:46.09 | dylanm | lol |
| 23:46.29 | Ellipsis | I originally assumed that it was just something tainting the pet bar and preventing it from updating correctly, but I noticed that the only times it *didn't* happen were when I got action blocked messages...so now I'm really confused :( |
| 23:46.30 | fridgid | lol @ mitt romney ad for his tax cuts |
| 23:47.23 | fridgid | is tortoisesvn the best windows client? |
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| 23:48.18 | neenee | It is a popular choice |
| 23:48.32 | neenee | Though if you do not want any explorer integration, try RapidSVN |
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| 23:54.35 | Zhinjio | ok, profiles are working now. Thanks for the help earlier. |
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