IRC log for #wowace on 20071119

`00:00.05`	`Antiarc`	`s/cp/talent points/`
`00:00.23`	`Silowyi`	`high crit?`
`00:00.41`	`Wobwork`	`trispec hemo is shiny`
`00:00.45`	`Wobwork`	`with good gear`
`00:01.01`	`Antiarc`	`Nah, hemo doesn't rely on crit`
`00:01.05`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboxZMIV0rVzxMhRt is your standard combat swords build`
`00:01.13`	`Wobwork`	`I was doing pretty well last night compared to a mutilate rogue in h mech`
`00:01.25`	`Antiarc`	`I've been topping hyjal/BT as trispec hemo`
`00:01.27`	`Wobwork`	`he was kinda gimped there, though, due to lack of poison at times`
`00:01.27`	`Antiarc`	`So I can't complain`
`00:01.38`	`Wobwork`	`he's got much nicer gear though`
`00:01.47`	`Wobwork`	`so I was keeping up well enough`
`00:01.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`halp :< someone fix Aloft cast bars :<`
`00:02.00`	`Wobwork`	`I even outdamaged the warlock =)`
`00:02.07`	`Ellipsis`	`lies`
`00:02.11`	`Wobwork`	`s'true`
`00:02.12`	`Ellipsis`	`nobody outdamages us`
`00:02.14`	`Wobwork`	`worried me too =P`
`00:02.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`<+Antiarc> Share what? <-- share pickpocket macro? :)`
`00:03.03`	`Antiarc`	`Gnarfoz: http://ace.pastey.net/77585`
`00:03.09`	`Stanzilla`	`Ellipsis: o rly?`
`00:03.16`	`Antiarc`	`That relies on you having a timer mod for the /in command though`
`00:03.21`	`Antiarc`	`I'm not sure what provides it for me, but I have it`
`00:04.00`	`Antiarc`	`Wobwork: http://wowwebstats.com/yz6oq2d21lrdg <-- Hyjal/BT last week. I'm Adrine./`
`00:04.02`	`Ordog`	`pidgin or gajim?`
`00:04.08`	`Ordog`	`is that a believe based deccision ?`
`00:04.23`	`Wobwork`	`pidgin -is- gaim`
`00:04.34`	`Wobwork`	`or are you talking about gajim?`
`00:04.41`	`Ordog`	`"gajim"`
`00:04.43`	`Ordog`	`^^`
`00:04.47`	`Wobwork`	`hehe`
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`00:04.59`	`Ordog`	`wikiquote. (not to be cofused with gaim!)`
`00:05.00`	`Ordog`	`;P`
`00:05.15`	`Wobwork`	`Antiarc: You probably don't need the timer mod if you don't care about the autoloot setting`
`00:05.17`	`Codayus`	`I believe AceEvent provides /in.`
`00:05.28`	`Antiarc`	`Wobwork: Correct. I do though, since I have autoloot off by default`
`00:05.37`	`Antiarc`	`And I want it auto-on for pickpocket, then flipped back off`
`00:05.54`	`Antiarc`	`If you execute the off switch right after /cast Pick Pocket, then it gets turned off before looting happens`
`00:06.28`	`CIA-4`	`03pprovost * r55362 10GruulMap/ (8 files in 2 dirs): GruulMap: Version 1.0 readu for testing`
`00:06.39`	`ulic`	`I use a macro with Cutup to do the autoloot switch, don't remember which pieces do what though, works most of the time, occassionly auto-loot gets stuck on.`
`00:08.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: lol that wws report is messed up... Supremus death, and then a 2nd try? :D`
`00:08.20`	`Gnarfoz`	`err naj'entus`
`00:08.22`	`Antiarc`	`Najentus, but yeah`
`00:08.26`	`Antiarc`	`I dunno what happened there`
`00:08.27`	`Antiarc`	`But w/e`
`00:08.56`	`Xinhuan`	`gruulmap is...`
`00:08.57`	`Xinhuan`	`## Notes: A positioning map for Gruul the Dragonkiller w/ FuBar plugin support`
`00:09.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'm back to swords anyway, I can't deal with the lack of energy generatio trispec hemo provides :<`
`00:09.20`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, it irritates me too`
`00:09.38`	`Antiarc`	`But trispec hemo outperforms my 19/42 by about 10%`
`00:09.39`	`Antiarc`	`So uh`
`00:09.43`	`Antiarc`	`I can't really complain :x`
`00:10.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`oO weird.`
`00:11.04`	`CIA-4`	`03nymbia 07Ace3 * r55364 10Quartz/:`
`00:11.04`	`CIA-4`	`Quartz:`
`00:11.04`	`CIA-4`	`- Nothing to see here. >.>`
`00:11.09`	`Antiarc`	`I blame Serrated Blades`
`00:11.32`	`Antiarc`	`On a mob under 35%, my rupture ticks for like 485`
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`00:11.51`	`durcyn`	`nymbia: the hell you say.`
`00:12.16`	`kenlyric`	`to shreds you say?`
`00:12.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: yeah, I know, but... on trash, I almost never have rupture up at that point`
`00:12.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`trash dies too fast :<`
`00:12.40`	`Antiarc`	`Well, yes, on trash`
`00:12.45`	`Antiarc`	`But on bosses it is teh secksay`
`00:13.00`	`Codayus`	`Who cares about DPS on trash? :-)`
`00:13.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`Codayus: I care about how fast it dies. DPS counts into that :>`
`00:13.24`	`nymbia`	`durcyn: nothing at all.`
`00:13.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`hydross was... crap :D he can't bleed.`
`00:13.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`Lurker was good, Karathress was good also, but nothing spectacular :<`
`00:13.59`	`Codayus`	`Gnarfoz: Mmm. My feeling is that you should spec to maximize boss DPS. Trash will take care of itself.`
`00:14.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`Codayus: indeed, but even then... yeah I'm just not used to it ;>`
`00:15.00`	`Antiarc`	`Blade Flurry is basically all you need for a giant trash-peen :D`
`00:15.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`also I should make the other rogue (yay for a maximum of 2 rogues) spec the same, if I try hemo again`
`00:15.26`	`Ellipsis`	`giant trash-peen? that sounds kinda gross actually`
`00:15.33`	`Gnarfoz`	`with just me I never even saw the damn debuff on the mob, it got eaten up way too fast :D`
`00:15.39`	`Chompers`	`try sweeping strikes and whirlwind`
`00:15.45`	`Chompers`	`oh man`
`00:15.58`	`Wobwork`	`I hate that bug`
`00:16.07`	`Wobwork`	`Spell damage is consuming hemo charges`
`00:16.13`	`Wobwork`	`and not using the hemo +damage`
`00:16.13`	`felirx`	`protpala+hyjal trash = silly dps on casters`
`00:16.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: lawlz you have a green gem in your t4 chestpiece :D`
`00:16.25`	`Antiarc`	`I do? o.0`
`00:16.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`armory says so`
`00:16.31`	`Antiarc`	`rofl`
`00:16.34`	`Antiarc`	`I forgot about that`
`00:16.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`+3 hit +3agi`
`00:16.38`	`Wobwork`	`it's such a waste, and so hard to keep up a stack`
`00:16.40`	`Antiarc`	`ar oh eff el`
`00:17.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Wobwork: there is such a bug? oO`
`00:17.10`	`Wobwork`	`Gnarfoz: I've certainly noticed it`
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`00:17.25`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`00:17.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`I just thought that 10 charges aren't really much, if you've got at least 4 dual wielders hitting the target`
`00:17.40`	`Antiarc`	`I've had that chestpiece forever`
`00:17.47`	`Antiarc`	`And I just forgot I'd gemmed it like that`
`00:17.51`	`Wobwork`	`I actually want to test it with a mage/lock`
`00:17.55`	`Antiarc`	`Ah well. The next Nethershadow is mine.`
`00:18.02`	`Wobwork`	`but I've heard reports that testing returns that it's a valid complaint`
`00:18.32`	`Antiarc`	`10 charges aren't a lot, but it's +102 raid DPS, minimum`
`00:18.49`	`CIA-4`	`03stan * r55365 10CML/ (cml.lua cmlOptions.lua):`
`00:18.49`	`CIA-4`	`CML:`
`00:18.49`	`CIA-4`	`- make font selection working again`
`00:18.49`	`CIA-4`	`- hello LibSharedMedia-2.0`
`00:18.51`	`Antiarc`	`More if any of those charge usages crit or have amplifiers, like Backstab or Impale`
`00:19.01`	`Wobwork`	`hm`
`00:19.07`	`Wobwork`	`the +damage is before crit calculations?`
`00:19.09`	`Pkekyo`	`meh...bloody midterms >.<`
`00:19.13`	`Antiarc`	`Yes`
`00:19.16`	`Wobwork`	`shiny`
`00:19.23`	`Antiarc`	`It's basically +36 weapon damage`
`00:19.31`	`Wobwork`	`very shiny`
`00:19.44`	`Antiarc`	`The hemo debuff is basically somewhere between +102 and +235 raid DPS`
`00:19.52`	`Antiarc`	`Just depending on what ends up consuming it`
`00:19.56`	`Wobwork`	`well, I can say with certainty, in a raid with two hemo rogues, the stack was disappearing so fast we couldn't keep it refreshed`
`00:20.03`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, same here`
`00:20.10`	`Antiarc`	`But that's fine, because all the charges being used is a very good thing`
`00:20.20`	`Wobwork`	`not if the charges -aren't-`
`00:20.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, but if they are used by spells`
`00:20.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`that'd suck :>`
`00:20.29`	`Antiarc`	`They arne't used by spells`
`00:20.30`	`Wobwork`	`ie spell damage not gaining the damage`
`00:20.31`	`Antiarc`	`However`
`00:20.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`in BWL back then one hemo rogue was enough to almost keep hemo up all the time, but then it had 30 charges`
`00:20.43`	`Wobwork`	`but consuming the buff`
`00:20.48`	`fitz__`	`460 transactions shown in my guild bank log via the armory, and counting`
`00:20.50`	`harldephin`	`so ChatLog is now Elephant?`
`00:21.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`but... then we had 6 rogues! so... it really can't be that 2 rogues are enough to eat up 2 charges that fast`
`00:21.01`	`Codayus`	`If I understand the mechanics, with 2 hemo rogues, you want to make sure neither hemos when the stack is still up - wastes charges. But it vanishes so fast, it's not really an issue.`
`00:21.29`	`Wobwork`	`Gnarfoz: well it's all physical attacks`
`00:21.32`	`Codayus`	`(And a few wasted charges isn't a disaster in any case...)`
`00:21.33`	`Wobwork`	`not just the rogues`
`00:21.34`	`felirx`	`hunters eats the charges like candy`
`00:21.38`	`felirx`	`with pets and such`
`00:21.39`	`Antiarc`	`Syphon of the Nathrezim's proc consumes...uh, what's the charged +shadow damage debuff?`
`00:21.45`	`Antiarc`	`Warlock debuff, I think?`
`00:21.47`	`Codayus`	`ISB?`
`00:21.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`Wobwork: I know, but in BWL we also had other physical dmg sources, like dw fury warriors etc`
`00:22.02`	`Codayus`	`I forget the debuff name, but it comes from Improved SB, yes?`
`00:22.05`	`Ellipsis`	`imp shadow bolt`
`00:22.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`no`
`00:22.07`	`CIA-4`	`03stan * r55366 10CML/ (cml.lua cmlOptions.lua):`
`00:22.07`	`CIA-4`	`CML:`
`00:22.07`	`CIA-4`	`- remove not needed stuff`
`00:22.07`	`CIA-4`	`- <3 Arcaia and Ellipsis`
`00:22.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`depends`
`00:22.10`	`Ellipsis`	`it's "shadow vulnerability"`
`00:22.22`	`Wobwork`	`that's the spriest one?`
`00:22.23`	`Antiarc`	`Yes, that one Ellipsis`
`00:22.28`	`Codayus`	`Shadow Weaving?`
`00:22.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`Shadow Weaving is the priest one`
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`00:22.32`	`Wobwork`	`I didn't realise it had charges`
`00:22.35`	`Antiarc`	`The Syphon's proc eats charges :P`
`00:22.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`it has 4`
`00:22.41`	`Wobwork`	`oh so it does`
`00:22.42`	`Wobwork`	`duh`
`00:22.47`	`Codayus`	`Shadow Weaving isn't consumed. The Warlock one has charges, and is consumed by non-periodic shadow damage.`
`00:22.49`	`Ellipsis`	`ISB has 4 charges, and gets eaten really easily`
`00:22.51`	`Antiarc`	`2 rogues, 33/28 2h sword warrior, 2 hunters, 2 ferals, and 2 prot warriors compose our standard melee setup`
`00:22.54`	`Ellipsis`	`shadow wands eat ISB`
`00:22.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`all direct dmg shadow spells eat ISB`
`00:23.01`	`Antiarc`	`So yeah, it's not hard to eat 20 charges/3.5 sec`
`00:23.01`	`Ellipsis`	`certain shadow procs eat ISB`
`00:23.04`	`Wobwork`	`Antiarc: that would = lots of hits`
`00:23.13`	`Ellipsis`	`basically if it's direct damage and it's shadow, it probably eats ISB`
`00:23.15`	`Codayus`	`Luckily, nobody wands in the modern raid environment...`
`00:23.18`	`Ellipsis`	`and makes your warlocks mad`
`00:23.27`	`Chompers`	`any of you had trouble with ZA at all?`
`00:23.28`	`Antiarc`	`Wobwork: Especially in Hyjal :P`
`00:23.28`	`Codayus`	`Especially since it seems all the good wands these days are shadow.`
`00:23.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`meh`
`00:23.57`	`Antiarc`	`http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_101507_212903.jpg`
`00:24.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`/topic somebody please fix Aloft castbars! thx`
`00:24.30`	`Codayus`	`Chompers: Trouble? What sort?`
`00:24.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: that's with those frenzy buffs, right?`
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`00:24.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`how do you gain those? MC something?`
`00:24.55`	`Antiarc`	`yeah, two of them, plus SnD + BF + Dragonspine proc + 2x Lightning Speed`
`00:25.00`	`Antiarc`	`Yes, you MC the shadowy necromancers`
`00:25.06`	`Antiarc`	`Then they can cast the buff on people`
`00:25.08`	`Antiarc`	`+100% haste`
`00:25.12`	`Gnarfoz`	`I WTB DST :<`
`00:25.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`but we don't do gruul anymore :<`
`00:25.33`	`Chompers`	`Codayus: it being too hard`
`00:25.42`	`Chompers`	`no way is it a continuation of karazhan`
`00:26.09`	`Codayus`	`Chompers: Depends heavily on gear level. I'd say if you can down Prince and Nightbane, you can down Bear and probably Eagle, although it'll be hard at first.`
`00:26.20`	`Chompers`	`we're on vashj`
`00:26.29`	`Antiarc`	`Gnarfoz: I discovered a funny bug yesterday`
`00:26.33`	`Chompers`	`but cant kill anything besides the bear boss`
`00:26.42`	`Antiarc`	`If you mash that macro I gave you, you can "pickpocket" a mob 3-6 times`
`00:26.44`	`Codayus`	`Chompers: Uh...it's you. Sorry.`
`00:26.45`	`felirx`	`you can drop 3 first bosses in kara gear np`
`00:26.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`we're on vashj, too. she hates us. :<`
`00:26.49`	`Chompers`	`yeah`
`00:26.51`	`Chompers`	`it has to be`
`00:26.55`	`felirx`	`fourth hurts a bit too much for kara tanks`
`00:26.57`	`Antiarc`	`I was very sad to realize that I wasn't pickpocketing 6x 12s per mob.`
`00:27.03`	`Ellipsis`	`~fail Antiarc`
`00:27.04`	`purl`	`Antiarc: Fail.`
`00:27.23`	`Codayus`	`We've got 3 T5 bosses down (which is...nothing special). First raid night one raid got Lynx down, another Eagle, and a third Bear.`
`00:27.27`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: heh yeah.`
`00:27.44`	`Chompers`	`damnit`
`00:27.50`	`Codayus`	`Second raid night one raid got Lynx down and nearly Firehawk, and the other raid was still stuck on Lynx. ><`
`00:27.52`	`CIA-4`	`03stan * r55367 10CML/CML.toc:`
`00:27.52`	`CIA-4`	`CML:`
`00:27.52`	`CIA-4`	`- add LSM-2.0 to optdeps`
`00:28.49`	`Codayus`	`Eagle is quite easy, it's 90% tactics, and you should be able to work out a good tactic after a couple wipes even without reading a guide.`
`00:29.17`	`felirx`	`the firehawk thing is also 90% execution`
`00:29.20`	`felirx`	`and 10% healing`
`00:29.22`	`Hotphoenix`	`we cleared on the first night though we'ld killed bear on ptr`
`00:29.25`	`Chompers`	`we had tactics perfect but healers were going oom`
`00:29.38`	`Chompers`	`guys in t4/t5`
`00:29.42`	`Chompers`	`it has to be the dps`
`00:29.45`	`Codayus`	`Lynx...I have no idea why one of our raids is stuck there. Seemed to be slow/weak healing.`
`00:30.07`	`Wobwork`	`Antiarc: You mean you were pickpocketing the mob, but not looting`
`00:30.16`	`Antiarc`	`No, I got 3-6 loot messages`
`00:30.27`	`Wobwork`	`but it was the same loot?`
`00:30.35`	`Antiarc`	`yes`
`00:30.41`	`Xinhuan`	`is that an exploit?`
`00:30.41`	`Wobwork`	`silly blizzard`
`00:30.47`	`Xinhuan`	`to get more loot than intended`
`00:30.53`	`Antiarc`	`You don't actually get 3-6x the loot`
`00:30.55`	`Wobwork`	`no it was the same 6s`
`00:30.57`	`Antiarc`	`You just get 3-6x the messages`
`00:31.05`	`Codayus`	`Chompers: Um...tactics heavily influence how much damage you take. If healers are going oom... You might be collapsing too early, or collapsing too close. You might not be killing the eagles fast enough. You could also bring a spriest. And you could make sure everyone is flasked/etc.`
`00:31.31`	`dezzi`	`stop updating omen during north american raid time`
`00:31.42`	`Wobwork`	`I want DST =(`
`00:31.51`	`dezzi`	`so that dumbfats who come late to raids end up spamming me with "new version available"`
`00:31.54`	`dezzi`	`:(`
`00:31.55`	`Wobwork`	`but it's probably never going to happen`
`00:32.10`	`Antiarc`	`Wobwork: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_111807_173127.jpg <-- just did that now`
`00:32.41`	`Wobwork`	`Antiarc: If you can get ahold of a caster, could you test that hemo bug?`
`00:32.51`	`Antiarc`	`Bug?`
`00:32.56`	`Antiarc`	`Spells are supposedly eating charges?`
`00:33.01`	`Xinhuan`	`dezzi: except that most omen updates aren't omen updates at all, just localization updates`
`00:33.01`	`Wobwork`	`basically check if spells are eating charges`
`00:33.04`	`dezzi`	`do you really need to play at 2400x1600?`
`00:33.07`	`dezzi`	`honestly`
`00:33.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`why not?`
`00:33.25`	`Antiarc`	`1920x1200, and yes. It's my monitor's native resolution.`
`00:33.29`	`Wobwork`	`dezzi is just jealous =)`
`00:33.35`	`Antiarc`	`Non-native resolutions on LCDs look like ass.`
`00:33.40`	`KarlThePagan`	`if I had a 30-inch monitor... i would`
`00:33.46`	`Stanzilla`	`24"`
`00:33.52`	`Stanzilla`	`1920x1200 :)`
`00:34.07`	`Kuja^`	`wtb [new monitor]`
`00:34.20`	`Stanzilla`	`Kuja^: do it`
`00:34.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`wtb 1600x1200 tft`
`00:34.45`	`Gnarfoz`	`:<`
`00:34.49`	`Kuja^`	`so, if you'll give me the mondey to do, go ahead`
`00:34.53`	`Antiarc`	`dezzi: If you aren't sure whether or not you need to get an Omen update, check the changelog`
`00:34.59`	`Kuja^`	`s/dey/ey/`
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`00:37.02`	`sb`	`Antiarc: interface action failed!`
`00:37.13`	`Antiarc`	`sb: Your mom failed!`
`00:37.26`	`sb`	`k`
`00:37.36`	`Jaxon`	`11/18 14:30:14.523 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from CooldownCount - ShapeshiftButton1:Show()`
`00:37.36`	`Jaxon`	`:(`
`00:37.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: is that Assessment down there on the left?`
`00:37.52`	`Antiarc`	`yeah`
`00:38.31`	`thul`	`hmm, protadin as levelingspec og retadin`
`00:38.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`Jaxon: omnicc ftw?`
`00:38.31`	`thul`	`hard`
`00:38.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`prot :>`
`00:38.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`I loved it ^^`
`00:38.47`	`Antiarc`	`NOOOO`
`00:38.48`	`felirx`	`prot`
`00:38.51`	`Antiarc`	`Spellcasts do eat hemo charges :(`
`00:38.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`Antiarc: No wai`
`00:38.59`	`felirx`	`do they get the benefit?`
`00:39.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`post @ US bug report forum pls? :D I can't :<`
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`00:40.14`	`Wobwork`	`felirx: I don't believe so`
`00:40.23`	`Antiarc`	`I don't know if they do or not`
`00:40.28`	`Antiarc`	`I'll see if I can figure a way to test it`
`00:40.39`	`Wobwork`	`work with a level 1 spell`
`00:40.46`	`Wobwork`	`naked`
`00:40.58`	`Wobwork`	`or pehaps with a newbie caster`
`00:41.03`	`felirx`	`or flameshock`
`00:41.07`	`felirx`	`if you have access to a sham`
`00:41.36`	`Obelixprime`	`anyone having issues with witchhunt?`
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`00:41.47`	`Antiarc`	`I've got a lock helping me`
`00:41.51`	`Antiarc`	`Dunno if we'll get anything`
`00:41.55`	`Wobwork`	`It's not finding the witches you just -know- are out there?`
`00:43.18`	`Obelixprime`	`lol`
`00:43.19`	`Obelixprime`	`no`
`00:43.33`	`Obelixprime`	`when i try to modify the height of the witchunt frame it gives me errors`
`00:43.44`	`Silowyi`	`so`
`00:43.46`	`Obelixprime`	`..\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua line 3108:`
`00:43.46`	`Obelixprime`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:43.55`	`Silowyi`	`spell reflect removes Al'ar's flame patches`
`00:43.57`	`buubot`	`Silowyi: reflect seems to be the correct spelling.`
`00:44.19`	`Silowyi`	`?`
`00:44.22`	`Silowyi`	`wow`
`00:44.25`	`Silowyi`	`that's a dumb bot`
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`00:45.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`lol`
`00:45.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`Silowyi: but... how?`
`00:46.09`	`Silowyi`	`dunno causes them to disappear though`
`00:46.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`Silowyi: we're wiping to vashj anyway full time, right now, but after she dies, al'ar is next ;D`
`00:46.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`on cast?`
`00:46.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`i.e. run in them with spell reflect up?`
`00:46.27`	`Silowyi`	`nope just stand in it and flame reflec`
`00:46.30`	`Gnarfoz`	`hahaha`
`00:46.34`	`Pkekyo`	`spell cookies RAAAAAAAWR`
`00:46.34`	`buubot`	`Pkekyo: cookies seems to be the correct spelling.`
`00:46.39`	`Pkekyo`	`kek`
`00:46.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'm sure they have like 1hp`
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`00:46.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`but since they're not targettable...`
`00:46.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`spell reflect ftw`
`00:46.54`	`buubot`	`Gnarfoz: reflect seems to be the correct spelling.`
`00:47.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Shut the FUCK up :p`
`00:47.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`~fail buubot`
`00:47.10`	`purl`	`buubot: Fail.`
`00:48.58`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`where the hell did all the bots come from anyway`
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`00:49.31`	`Gnarfoz`	`NightHawkTheSane: Botland?`
`00:49.43`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'd guess`
`00:53.43`	`Arcaia`	`what did i miss?`
`00:53.55`	`kenlyric`	`so, characterinfo seems to be the only mod that shows alt items on the character frame.`
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`00:54.33`	`Pkekyo`	`someone please boot buubot the hell outta here? :)`
`00:54.49`	`Arcaia`	`19:22\| (CIA-4) - <3 Arcaia and Ellipsis`
`00:54.52`	`Arcaia`	`I is win!`
`00:55.22`	`Silowyi`	`Gnarfoz: no, no, they came from... wait for it... Botanica`
`00:55.28`	`cladhaire`	`Pkekyo: whats he doing?`
`00:55.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`spell trigger.`
`00:55.56`	`buubot`	`NightHawkTheSane: trigger. doesn't seem to be in the dictionary, perhaps you meant one of these: trigger, trigger's, triggers, rigger, triage, rugger, trig, tiger, trier, trike, digger, tagger, outrigger`
`00:55.58`	`Silowyi`	`cladhaire: I shall demonstrate`
`00:55.59`	`Pkekyo`	`try saying spell reflect in the first of a sentence`
`00:56.05`	`Silowyi`	`spell reflect`
`00:56.06`	`buubot`	`Silowyi: reflect seems to be the correct spelling.`
`00:56.06`	`Pkekyo`	`spell reflect is awsum`
`00:56.06`	`buubot`	`Pkekyo: reflect seems to be the correct spelling.`
`00:56.06`	`Jaxon`	`Anyone know if you can use a specific item with the equipped macro option?`
`00:56.10`	`Pkekyo`	`stfu buubot`
`00:56.11`	`baer_`	`maybe somebody can help me finding an addon for a special purpose: i need some monitoring for my spelldmg onscreen with a quick update (best < 0,5sec).`
`00:56.23`	`thul`	`I like this song:D "when everything is said and everything is done, you can always suck the barrel of a gun"`
`00:56.26`	`Silowyi`	`hmm`
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`00:56.31`	`cladhaire`	`Pkekyo: ask a bot to mute him,`
`00:56.34`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise ignore shrug`
`00:56.42`	`cladhaire`	`i can't do it anymore, heh`
`00:56.43`	`Silowyi`	`checks something else`
`00:57.02`	`spell`	`testing...`
`00:57.10`	`spell`	`s/test/boo`
`00:57.13`	`spell`	`hmm`
`00:57.19`	`spell`	`oh damn`
`00:57.24`	`spell`	`purl isn't in this channel I guess`
`00:58.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`most bots/mirc scripts are smart enough to differentiate between sender and message.`
`00:58.35`	`spell`	`no... he is`
`00:58.35`	`Codayus`	`You missed the closing /`
`00:58.35`	`spell`	`this is a test`
`00:58.35`	`spell`	`s/test/boo/g`
`00:58.36`	`spell`	`bah`
`00:58.36`	`spell`	`this is a test`
`00:58.36`	`spell`	`s/test/boo`
`00:58.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`purl doesn't understand optoins like g or i`
`00:58.52`	`Codayus`	`s/missed the closing /fail/`
`00:58.52`	`spell`	`s/test/boo/`
`00:58.52`	`spell`	`this is a test`
`00:58.52`	`spell`	`s/test/boo/`
`00:58.53`	`spell`	`it fails!`
`00:58.53`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, but purl is ignoring me anyhow.`
`00:58.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`s/purl/loser/`
`00:58.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`seems like purl's unresponsive.`
`00:58.55`	`Silowyi`	`lol`
`00:58.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hah. or, slow as hell tonight`
`00:59.11`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55368 10WoWEquip/ (4 files): WoWEquip: - Add Charmed Amani Jewel.`
`00:59.13`	`Codayus`	`Nope, just lagged, I guess.`
`00:59.20`	`Silowyi`	`so buubot doesn't respond to purl`
`00:59.44`	`ulic`	`spell meant: to`
`00:59.44`	`buubot`	`ulic: meant: doesn't seem to be in the dictionary, perhaps you meant one of these: meant, manta, mayn't, Manet, Menard, Meany, mean, meat, mentor, Mont, mend, mint, meander, meaty, means, Manda, Mandi, Mandy, Mendy, Minta, Monte, Monti, Monty, Mount, maned, minty, mount, meaner, meanie, Medan, many, meanest, neat, Man, Minot, Monet, man, mat, men, met, a`
`00:59.59`	`ulic`	`guess not`
`01:00.03`	`kenlyric`	`heh.`
`01:02.46`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55369 10GemHelper/ (8 files): GemHelper: Add Charmed Amani Jewel.`
`01:03.17`	`Wobwork`	`thul: Nah, the better lyrics are: "There's no sense crying over every mistake, you just keep on going til you run out of cake."`
`01:03.18`	`Knaledge`	`spell fuck`
`01:03.18`	`buubot`	`Knaledge: fuck seems to be the correct spelling.`
`01:03.30`	`Knaledge`	`spell fuckachia bread`
`01:03.31`	`buubot`	`Knaledge: fuckachia doesn't seem to be in the dictionary, perhaps you meant one of these: fuchsia, acacia, fucks, backache, fuck, deckchair, fucking, cache, coach, Chukchi, Quechua, Falasha, Felecia, Felicia, fuckers, Kassia, cassia, fucker, fucked, fucker's, puckish`
`01:03.43`	`thul`	`well, I like swedish progrock :-P`
`01:03.45`	`kenlyric`	`"fuck, deckchair"`
`01:03.50`	`CIA-4`	`03scorpio0920 * r55370 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Zul'jin.lua:`
`01:03.50`	`CIA-4`	`BigWigs:`
`01:03.50`	`CIA-4`	`Zul'jin: Update zhTW translation.`
`01:03.51`	`Knaledge`	`haha`
`01:03.59`	`Knaledge`	`thats what I meant`
`01:04.02`	`Knaledge`	`deckchair!`
`01:04.09`	`Knaledge`	`Thanks buubot! thumbs up`
`01:04.23`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55371 10WoWEquip/WoWEquipData.lua: WoWEquip: - Add Charmed Amani Jewel to be counted as a blue gem.`
`01:04.55`	`harldephin`	`can BankStack have a fubar/minimap icon and a fubar menu?`
`01:05.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Knaledge: i know i totally mix up 'deckchair' and 'foccacia' all the time`
`01:05.07`	`Wobwork`	`harldephin: does it need it?`
`01:05.16`	`Wobwork`	`NightHawkTheSane: I'm never taking you to lunch`
`01:05.22`	`Wobwork`	`at IKEA`
`01:05.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wobwork: :D`
`01:05.47`	Funkeh`	`rofl`
`01:05.59`	Funkeh`	`Yeah when I said fuck I really meant to say deckchair`
`01:06.07`	Funkeh`	`you can see how I could typo that`
`01:06.13`	`Wobwork`	`yeah`
`01:06.16`	`harldephin`	`Wobwork: yes? it kind of does? since about every other fubar add-on has a fubar menu and/or can be minimapized?`
`01:06.20`	`Wobwork`	`all the letters are like, right next to each other`
`01:06.46`	`Wobwork`	`Is bankstack a fubar addon? =)`
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`01:07.52`	`CIA-4`	`03funkydude * r55372 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: add some normal phase timers`
`01:08.11`	`harldephin`	`Wobwork: since it has fubar as an optional dependency, it's kind of a fubar add-on, i'd say.`
`01:08.27`	`Ellipsis`	`optional being the key word`
`01:08.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`cladhaire: is there a way too look up a NPC that LH know about directly?`
`01:09.00`	`cladhaire`	`one moment`
`01:09.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`without knowing a quest he gives or completes`
`01:09.28`	`Wobwork`	`Gnarfoz: for just location?`
`01:09.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`basically, yea`
`01:09.37`	`cladhaire`	`do you have the NPC id?`
`01:09.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`no`
`01:09.49`	`cladhaire`	`then no`
`01:09.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`ok`
`01:09.58`	`cladhaire`	`if you get the npc id`
`01:10.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`I'll do it the old-fashioned way, then :)`
`01:10.03`	`cladhaire`	`you can query the locations directly`
`01:10.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`cool`
`01:10.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`but, to do that, I'd have to go to wowhead anyways, so I'd know where he is ;)`
`01:10.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`but thanks ^^`
`01:11.33`	`CIA-4`	`03peragor * r55374 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:`
`01:11.33`	`CIA-4`	`GridStatusHealer:`
`01:11.33`	`CIA-4`	`- Subgroup modifiers are now checked consistantly with raid membership and raid instance (both need to be true).`
`01:12.07`	`Diao`	`hm someone broke atlasloot`
`01:12.48`	Funkeh`	`Diao, maybe it was YOU`
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`01:12.55`	`Diao`	`maybe`
`01:12.59`	`Diao`	`but i don't have svn access`
`01:12.59`	`Diao`	`:(`
`01:13.40`	Funkeh`	`that a bad excuse`
`01:13.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`Fisker-: for god's sake... DO SOMETHING`
`01:13.40`	`Diao`	`AtlasLoot\Core\Atlas1.10.3compat.lua:337: unfinished string near '";'`
`01:13.58`	`thul`	`http://toompark.pri.ee/aarne/wp-content/2007/04/kristlus.jpg`
`01:14.36`	`harldephin`	`Ellipsis: i don't see how bankstack would even be usable without fubar. anything i'm missing?`
`01:14.42`	Funkeh`	`spell Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious`
`01:14.43`	`buubot`	Funkeh`: Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious doesn't seem to be in the dictionary, perhaps you meant one of these:
`01:15.00`	`Kemayo`	`harldephin: It has a fubar icon.`
`01:15.02`	Funkeh`	`oh yeah, lots of choice there`
`01:17.10`	`harldephin`	`Kemayo: i don't see any, neither in-game nor in the directory.`
`01:17.58`	`Ellipsis`	`harldephin: I'm the wrong person to ask?`
`01:19.01`	`Kaelten`	`spell reflect`
`01:19.01`	`buubot`	`Kaelten: reflect seems to be the correct spelling.`
`01:19.02`	`Kemayo`	`I suppose I should get around to making it work if you don't have fubarplugin-3.0.`
`01:19.15`	Funkeh`	`spell wtf`
`01:19.15`	`buubot`	Funkeh`: wtf doesn't seem to be in the dictionary, perhaps you meant one of these: wt, ft, RF, Rf, TD, F, T, f, t, TWA, Twp, two, twp, TV, eff, waif, wife, woof, AF, CF, Cf, HF, Hf, NF, SF, TA, TB, TM, TN, TX, Ta, Tb, Tc, Te, Ti, Tl, Tm, Tu, Ty, VF, WV, YT, bf, cf, ff, hf, if, of, pf, sf, ta, ti, tn, to, tr, ts, ref, def, ATV, MTV, RAF, RIF, Raf, UHF, oaf,
`01:19.23`	`*** kick/#wowace [buubot!n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten] by Kaelten (Please adopt a trigger that won't be accidently triggered)`
`01:19.33`	Funkeh`	`yeah, woof, thats what I meant`
`01:19.41`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: pitbull improvement request: I'd like to be able to save "text" formats from the pre-defined ones`
`01:19.55`	Funkeh`	`nn folks`
`01:20.06`	`CIA-4`	`03ckknight * r55375 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - make status update 0.05 seconds after login, fixing the damn AFK bug.`
`01:20.22`	`Ellipsis`	`oh thank god, I thought that AFK bug was in my head`
`01:20.32`	Funkeh`	`people are afk on login?`
`01:20.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`afk bug?`
`01:20.42`	`Ellipsis`	Funkeh`: yesssss
`01:20.50`	Funkeh`	`tut tut Ellipsis`
`01:20.58`	`baer_`	`Kaelten: thanks.`
`01:20.59`	`Stanzilla`	`well..`
`01:21.03`	`ckknight`	`Ellipsis, sorry, but no`
`01:21.04`	`ckknight`	`you are`
`01:21.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i beg to differ`
`01:21.05`	`Stanzilla`	`:p`
`01:21.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... no..`
`01:21.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`is there something lie GetCVar()?`
`01:21.42`	`Zhinjio`	`oh hey ckknight. didn't realize you were !idle.`
`01:21.47`	Funkeh`	`um, yeah`
`01:22.00`	`harldephin`	`Kemayo: dunno. i'll try again with libfubarplugin-3.0 then.`
`01:22.20`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio, :-P`
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`01:22.45`	`dashkal`	`ping Toadkiller`
`01:23.06`	`dashkal`	`~seen Toadkiller`
`01:23.34`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 29m 52s ago, saying: 'Yeah always use a soft brush'.`
`01:25.15`	`Zhinjio`	`shrug ... jsut a thought. grin`
`01:26.16`	`CIA-4`	`03chuanhsing * r55376 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW`
`01:26.48`	`cladhaire`	`buu: Please don't bring a bot in here that doesn't have a proper trigger. It shouldn't ever accidentally trigger off stuff like "Spell reflect"`
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`01:28.02`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55377 10Postal/Modules/Forward.lua: Postal: - Disable Postal_Forward module temporarily as it is currently not working and requires major changes.`
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`01:30.25`	`Silowyi`	`so`
`01:30.29`	`Silowyi`	`on Three Al'ar attemtps`
`01:30.41`	`Silowyi`	`one of the Al'ar tanks disconnects`
`01:30.41`	`CIA-4`	`037destiny * r55378 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Illidan.lua): BigWigs: koKR update`
`01:30.45`	`Silowyi`	`another tank disconnects`
`01:31.01`	`Silowyi`	`and our main tank falls through the world, which causes Al'ar to evade bug back to 100%`
`01:31.54`	Funkeh`	`pwnd`
`01:31.58`	Funkeh`	`clearly blizz hates you`
`01:32.06`	`Silowyi`	`he can't release either`
`01:32.13`	`Silowyi`	`so we're queuing him for 3v3 skirmish`
`01:32.15`	`Silowyi`	`:P`
`01:32.22`	`harldephin`	`Kemayo: having added libfubarplugin-3.0 now, i've got all optional deps for bankstack, but i'm only getting the text "BankStack" on my fubar and no icon yet.`
`01:32.23`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`01:32.23`	`CIA-4`	`03krakhaan * r55379 10AFX/ (AFX.toc readme.txt soundlib.lua):`
`01:32.23`	`CIA-4`	`AFX:`
`01:32.23`	`CIA-4`	`- added new sounds`
`01:32.24`	`CIA-4`	`- updated toc for 2.3`
`01:34.04`	`ckknight`	`somebody find me a woman. my efforts have failed me`
`01:34.33`	`harldephin`	`there are plenty out there.`
`01:34.36`	`Ellipsis`	`<---`
`01:34.48`	`Wobwork`	`ckknight: blow harder`
`01:34.56`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55380 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Fix alt-click to automatically send the mail, rather than only having it work on the first attached item.`
`01:36.05`	`ckknight`	`Ellipsis, you're wacky, live in California, and don't have a concept of the modern credit system`
`01:36.12`	`ckknight`	`not sure it'd work long-term`
`01:36.50`	`CIA-4`	`037destiny * r55381 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: koKR update`
`01:37.04`	`Wobwork`	`well, if you think about it, if she's limited to hard cash, it'll be cheaper on you =)`
`01:37.07`	`Ellipsis`	`who said anything about long term?`
`01:37.31`	`ckknight`	`well, short-term the whole ocean divide is a clincher`
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`01:37.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`whats this about no concept of the modern credit system?`
`01:37.54`	`Wobwork`	`ckknight: You're just making it difficult for all the non-hawaiian women`
`01:38.23`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, Ellipsis doesn't believe in credit`
`01:38.34`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, I think it's vital for modern Capitalistic progress`
`01:38.44`	`Wobwork`	`ckknight: perhaps you could make a reasonable facsimile out of grasses and some coconuts`
`01:38.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`credit as in credit cards type credit, or just electronic transactions in general?`
`01:38.50`	`harldephin`	`short term relationships suck.`
`01:38.50`	`ckknight`	`Wobwork, well, what do you expect of me?`
`01:39.03`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, as in the borrowing of money; usury`
`01:39.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`oh, in that case i'm all with Ellipsis. it's basically just a means for corporations to control the spending power of the populace.`
`01:40.01`	`Wobwork`	`Hi2u Fightclub`
`01:40.08`	`Ellipsis`	`I don't take loans, I don't have credit cards, and I don't plan to`
`01:40.13`	`Ellipsis`	`that's just how I roll`
`01:40.14`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, everybody in my family has their own corporation`
`01:40.27`	`ckknight`	`corporations are good for people like me, not bad`
`01:40.34`	`Wobwork`	`admirable... if plastic weren't a primary currency in the western world`
`01:40.41`	`Antiarc`	`Ellipsis: Enjoy living in an apartment for the rest of your life?`
`01:40.51`	`Antiarc`	`I mean, uh, unless you have some serious cash laying around...`
`01:41.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`if by people like you, you mean "corporate capitalist pigs bent on the oppression of the proletariat", then i suppose so`
`01:41.09`	`Wobwork`	`hehe`
`01:41.16`	`Wobwork`	`ccpbotootp`
`01:41.26`	`Wobwork`	`Catchy!`
`01:41.29`	`Fin`	`is there a daily fishing quest?`
`01:41.51`	`Ellipsis`	`Antiarc: if I can't afford a house then I can't afford a house`
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`01:41.57`	`Ellipsis`	`that's the point: I don't spend cash I don't have.`
`01:42.19`	`Antiarc`	`Costs a lot more in the long run.`
`01:42.19`	`Wobwork`	`unfortunately, that means you'll be paying rent for the rest of your life`
`01:42.26`	`Wobwork`	`which is cash into a black hole`
`01:42.38`	`ckknight`	`NightHawkTheSane, the proletariat's woes are overblown`
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`01:42.47`	`Freedon`	`hate: poke`
`01:42.51`	`Freedon`	`haste*`
`01:43.09`	`Ellipsis`	`Antiarc: eh, so be it`
`01:43.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ckknight: meh, i'm not really going to get into a discussion now. I've had a very bad day, so I'd probably say something i may actually regret.`
`01:43.23`	`ckknight`	`even though yes, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, with increased globalization and access to cheap goods, the standard of living for the unwashed masses is gradually increasing`
`01:43.27`	`Ellipsis`	`I'd rather waste my money than spend someone else's and hope I can pay it back when I need to`
`01:43.31`	`ckknight`	`shrug probably`
`01:44.00`	`Antiarc`	`well, that's what financial planning is for :P`
`01:44.06`	`Ellipsis`	`yes`
`01:44.09`	`Wobwork`	`so you -know- you can pay it off =P`
`01:44.10`	`Fin`	`noone? noone able and willing to tell me if there's a daily fishing quest? pretty please?`
`01:44.18`	`Ellipsis`	`my concept of financial planning means saving up the money to buy something and THEN buying it`
`01:44.20`	`Ellipsis`	`not vice versa`
`01:44.20`	`a-stray-cat`	`ive not seen one`
`01:44.24`	`a-stray-cat`	`i'd love a daily fishing quest though`
`01:44.25`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc, and high FICA scores`
`01:44.28`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: I want the percentage in the text format to not have decimal places. :Short doesn't do it. What does?`
`01:44.29`	`a-stray-cat`	`i miss ffxi's fishing quests :<`
`01:44.40`	`Zhinjio`	`Fin, I believe so. I haven't found it yet though`
`01:44.56`	`Fin`	`thanks Zhinjio, I think so too, but I can't find out where it might be`
`01:45.02`	`Fin`	`and ta asc`
`01:45.10`	`Wobwork`	`Ellipsis: well, if you can save up enough to buy property outright, then more power to you, I guess`
`01:45.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Ellipsis: you're my new favorite person.`
`01:46.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`don't worry though, that only lasts like a few hours.`
`01:46.19`	`Ellipsis`	`oh, ok`
`01:46.39`	`Kemayo`	`harldephin: The icon doesn't work, and I have no idea why. It's a strange thing.`
`01:46.40`	`Ellipsis`	`actually NightHawkTheSane you're the first person on this network who hasn't told me I'm stupid/crazy/idealist and will never survive in the real world`
`01:46.42`	`Ellipsis`	`so thank you`
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`01:47.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Ellipsis: heh, my pleasure. you ARE crazy, AND an idealist, but i don't consider those to be faults. :)`
`01:47.42`	`Ellipsis`	`thanks for skipping the stupid part :)`
`01:47.45`	`harldephin`	`Kemayo: what should be the filename and directory of the file containing the icon?`
`01:47.55`	`Kemayo`	`[[Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_Shovel_01]]`
`01:49.10`	`Wobwork`	`Ellipsis: Well it's up to you to be stupid or not, it's not something anyone else can control =)`
`01:49.23`	`Wobwork`	`Ellipsis: also, stupid is a relative definition`
`01:49.32`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55382 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Add the itemTexture to the tooltips in multiple attachment mails. :)`
`01:49.46`	`ckknight`	`shrug Europe as a whole only started succeeding once usury was adopted with the Protestant revolution, prior to that the Jews hoarded money gladly because they weren't forbidden from usury`
`01:50.00`	`ckknight`	`note: that's not meant to be Anti-semetic or anything, I'm pro-usury`
`01:50.09`	`Wobwork`	`You like bears! =)`
`01:50.14`	`ckknight`	`bears?`
`01:50.19`	`Wobwork`	`never mind =P`
`01:50.22`	`ckknight`	`America's #1 threat?`
`01:50.25`	`ckknight`	`I don't think so.`
`01:50.31`	`Wobwork`	`But...`
`01:50.32`	`a-stray-cat`	`the world's #1 threat.`
`01:50.34`	`JoshBorke`	`wtf is omen fubared?`
`01:50.36`	`Wobwork`	`you fight for the right to arm bears`
`01:50.43`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`01:51.08`	`ckknight`	`brb`
`01:52.34`	`Antiarc`	`JoshBorke: Elaborate?`
`01:52.41`	`CIA-4`	`03kemayo * r55383 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc fu.lua):`
`01:52.41`	`CIA-4`	`BankStack:`
`01:52.41`	`CIA-4`	`-FuBar plugin will now also work with FuBarPlugin-2.0. (Actually, will prefer it, because the icon works.)`
`01:52.46`	`JoshBorke`	`Antiarc: dependent on LibSharedMedia but doesn't provide it in externals`
`01:53.04`	`Kemayo`	`harldephin: That update will help matters.`
`01:53.08`	`Antiarc`	`Err.`
`01:53.14`	`Antiarc`	`Did someone change the TOC on me?`
`01:53.20`	`JoshBorke`	`i can pastey the error`
`01:53.26`	`JoshBorke`	`it's an in game error`
`01:54.05`	`Antiarc`	`Doh`
`01:54.11`	`Antiarc`	`The externals get SharedMedia, not SharedMediaLib`
`01:54.13`	`Antiarc`	`I should fix that`
`01:54.18`	`CIA-4`	`03ackis * r55384 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:`
`01:54.18`	`CIA-4`	`Babble-2.2:`
`01:54.18`	`CIA-4`	`-Engineering update`
`01:54.35`	`JoshBorke`	`you should`
`01:54.39`	`JoshBorke`	`because i just installed libsharedmedia`
`01:54.42`	`CIA-4`	`03celellach * r55385 10AtlasLoot/Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua:`
`01:54.42`	`CIA-4`	`AtlasLoot:`
`01:54.42`	`CIA-4`	`- Bug fix`
`01:54.45`	`Stanzilla`	`but use SharedMedia-2.0`
`01:54.47`	`Stanzilla`	`not 1`
`01:55.23`	`dashkal`	`sweet, and repackage in 10 minutes`
`01:55.33`	`Orionshock`	`@ace3 dev : AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: 162 bad arg to pairs table expected got nil <--any insight??`
`01:56.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hmm`
`01:57.16`	`dashkal`	`I have that happeneing to me from autobar`
`01:57.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Is prowling considered a different stance now, or something? or does /cast Prowl no longer take you out of stealth again?`
`01:57.26`	`Orionshock`	`if there was a sytax error in the table being feed then it would complain alot sooner`
`01:57.42`	`Orionshock`	`NightHawkTheSane: yes`
`01:58.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that wasn't a yes or no answer, and my patience for that is limited.`
`01:58.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`s/answer/question/`
`01:58.31`	`a-stray-cat`	`does anyone have a guess as to how much armor the average level 73 raid boss has?`
`01:59.05`	`Orionshock`	`NightHawkTheSane: yes prowl is a new stance`
`01:59.11`	`xerawx`	`a-stray-cat: over 9000`
`01:59.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`thanks`
`01:59.18`	`Orionshock`	`and casting it again should cancle it, otherwise just use the /cancle aura`
`01:59.19`	`a-stray-cat`	`./cast prowl does not take you out of prowl anymore`
`01:59.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`you happen to know which one? ><`
`01:59.27`	`a-stray-cat`	`xerawx: 9000?!`
`01:59.52`	`Orionshock`	`NightHawkTheSane: it follows the same rules as [stealth] macro option`
`01:59.53`	`Antiarc`	`It depends on the raid boss`
`01:59.56`	`dashkal`	`that reminds me, how do you cancel a toggle from a macro`
`02:00.02`	`Antiarc`	`But they tend to be between 35-50% mitigation`
`02:00.12`	`a-stray-cat`	`im trying to figure out the worth of ignore armor :/`
`02:00.21`	`a-stray-cat`	`and its worth more on bosses with less AC right?`
`02:00.25`	`Antiarc`	`Yes`
`02:00.41`	`Antiarc`	`The less armor a target has before penetration, the more value the penetration has`
`02:00.50`	`a-stray-cat`	`isn't that kind of silly?`
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`02:01.22`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: did you see my question earlier regarding percentages?`
`02:02.08`	`Knaledge`	`ignore armor is a nice stat if you're not relying solely on specific gear to give you all of your atp and hit`
`02:02.11`	`Knaledge`	`and/or crit`
`02:02.31`	`Freedon`	`haste: poke`
`02:02.39`	`haste`	`Freedon: flip`
`02:02.41`	`Knaledge`	`I'd gladly sacrifice ATP/hit/crit for armor pen if I could maintain 1700-1800 ATP unbuffed`
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`02:03.03`	`a-stray-cat`	`what class do you play?`
`02:03.05`	`CIA-4`	`03kemayo * r55386 10BankStack/ (config.lua fu.lua): BankStack: Give the FuBar plugin an onmenurequest.`
`02:03.09`	`Knaledge`	`rogue`
`02:03.10`	`Freedon`	`haste: can you make it that ouf party frames are disabled in raid from using the wow interface options?`
`02:03.11`	`a-stray-cat`	`ah`
`02:03.27`	`haste`	`Freedon: it will happen, but I'm not sure when`
`02:03.33`	`Freedon`	`haste: <3`
`02:03.49`	`Freedon`	`haste: any manual ways atm?`
`02:04.23`	`haste`	`nope`
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`02:04.57`	`Freedon`	`meh`
`02:05.01`	`Freedon`	`thanks anyhow`
`02:05.09`	`Antiarc`	`How do I turn off the taintlog? /console taintlog 0?`
`02:05.40`	`haste`	`taintLog`
`02:05.57`	`haste`	`and I'm not sure how /console works, but probably`
`02:06.04`	`Antiarc`	`Something is causing major hitching in BT`
`02:06.08`	`Antiarc`	`and I'm hoping it's only that`
`02:06.19`	`harldephin`	`Kemayo: thanks. that pretty much did it.`
`02:06.32`	`CIA-4`	`03celellach * r55387 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:`
`02:06.32`	`CIA-4`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`02:06.32`	`CIA-4`	`- updated item info`
`02:07.12`	`Orionshock`	`http://ace.pastey.net/77594`
`02:07.16`	`Orionshock`	`.... urg`
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`02:08.10`	`Freedon`	`for av, wtf is up with reinforcements, like is it like old-school wolf riders etc`
`02:08.11`	`Freedon`	`?`
`02:08.32`	`Xinhuan`	`nah`
`02:08.37`	`a-stray-cat`	`its like bf2 tickets`
`02:08.39`	`Xinhuan`	`its more like DOTA`
`02:08.46`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55388 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Switch to using :SetFormattedText() in a couple of places.`
`02:08.49`	`a-stray-cat`	`when they hit 0 your side loses`
`02:08.58`	`Xinhuan`	`both sides start with 600, every player loss deducts 1`
`02:09.09`	`Xinhuan`	`every tower capture deducts 50 i think`
`02:09.17`	`Xinhuan`	`and kiling the captain deducts 100?`
`02:09.18`	`Freedon`	`sooooooo`
`02:09.25`	`Freedon`	`calling them reinforcements = pointless?`
`02:09.30`	`Freedon`	`lives left imo :p`
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`02:09.39`	`a-stray-cat`	`you are a reinforcement`
`02:09.42`	`Xinhuan`	`well every now and then, both sides will incrment their reinformcents by a certain amount`
`02:09.45`	`a-stray-cat`	`at least when you get ress'd ;P`
`02:09.50`	`Xinhuan`	`depending on how many towers and GYs you have`
`02:10.04`	`Freedon`	`wowowow`
`02:10.09`	`Freedon`	`so now i understand all the complaining`
`02:10.22`	`Xinhuan`	`in other words, you CAN win by turtling`
`02:10.34`	`Freedon`	`...`
`02:10.37`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e have less player deaths than the enemy`
`02:10.41`	`Xinhuan`	`since each death = -1 live`
`02:10.48`	`Freedon`	`waaaaaaaaaaait`
`02:10.53`	`Freedon`	`so that means when i capture snowfall`
`02:10.56`	`Freedon`	`i wont get yelled at now?`
`02:10.58`	`Freedon`	`:D`
`02:10.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`no`
`02:11.00`	`Xinhuan`	`nope`
`02:11.03`	`Freedon`	`wtfs`
`02:11.05`	`Xinhuan`	`in fact you want to cap it`
`02:11.09`	`Xinhuan`	`as does capturing mines`
`02:11.12`	`a-stray-cat`	`i'll yell at you`
`02:11.20`	`a-stray-cat`	`not capturing snowfall = 12 minute games still`
`02:11.23`	`a-stray-cat`	`for ~400 honor`
`02:11.36`	`a-stray-cat`	`capturing it means 40 minute games, for ~500 honor`
`02:12.07`	`Freedon`	`D:`
`02:12.08`	`a-stray-cat`	`i should commit my afk alarm`
`02:12.27`	`CIA-4`	`03kemayo * r55389 10SimpleTradeskill/ (Core.lua SimpleTradeskill.toc embeds.xml lib/): SimpleTradeskill: PeriodicTable -> 3.1.`
`02:14.29`	`Xinhuan`	`Skillet should upgrade to PT3.1 so i can get rid of all the PT3.0 folders`
`02:14.45`	`CIA-4`	`03zuno * r55390 10UnitActionBars2/:`
`02:14.45`	`CIA-4`	`UnitActionBars2:`
`02:14.45`	`CIA-4`	`- Copied from branches (first published v2.0 candidate)`
`02:14.45`	`CIA-4`	`03kemayo * r55391 10SimpleTradeskill/SimpleTradeskill.toc: SimpleTradeskill: Forgot the optdep.`
`02:14.58`	`sedai\|`	`mybindings2 is borked?`
`02:16.27`	`Stanzilla`	`Xinhuan: upgrade it :p`
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`02:17.40`	`Xinhuan`	`nah not my issue ;p`
`02:18.59`	`Stanzilla`	`Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=post;topic=9179.220;num_replies=224 :p`
`02:19.22`	`Xinhuan`	`pfft`
`02:19.24`	`Orionshock`	`wtb help with options table... anyone want to help me take a stab at it?`
`02:19.52`	`sedai\|`	`i get arrors from cartographer and atlasloot`
`02:20.03`	`sedai\|`	`errors too`
`02:20.09`	`sedai\|`	`and from Deadly bossmods`
`02:20.09`	`Stanzilla`	`sedai\|: pastey them`
`02:20.17`	`sedai\|`	`how`
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`02:21.40`	`Provus`	`Hey, does anyone know how to behind stuff to right shift and left shift seperately in 2.3?`
`02:22.03`	`Xinhuan`	`only doable in code`
`02:22.20`	`sedai\|`	`[2007/11/18 19:17:26-605-x1]: AtlasLoot\Core\Atlas1.10.3compat.lua:337: unfinished string near '";'`
`02:22.34`	`Xinhuan`	`sedai\|, update it.`
`02:22.38`	`Xinhuan`	`fixed 20 min ago`
`02:22.43`	`sedai\|`	`oh`
`02:22.45`	`sedai\|`	`<3`
`02:23.09`	`sedai\|`	[2007/11/18 19:17:46-605-x1]: DBM_API\API.lua:1252: attempt to call method 'SetFont' (a nil value)DBM_API\API.lua:1277: in function `OnEvent'<string>:":OnEvent":1: in function <[string ":OnEvent"]:1>
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`02:23.45`	`Xinhuan`	`contact DBM author.`
`02:23.53`	`Provus`	`Well I tried doing it manually in TrinityBars by opening up Trinitybars.lua and changing Shift to Rshift`
`02:23.53`	`Xinhuan`	`or update it`
`02:23.59`	`Xinhuan`	`or switch to using Bigwigs`
`02:24.00`	`Provus`	`However it seems to ignore it and still use it on both shifts`
`02:24.04`	`Orionshock`	`sedai\|: update to BigWigs and nix DBM`
`02:24.49`	`Jaxon`	`Its mostly BigWigs timings in DBM anyway, isn't it? :P`
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`02:24.54`	`sedai\|`	`i think i use both?`
`02:25.02`	`Xinhuan`	`why use both?`
`02:25.11`	`sedai\|`	`nm`
`02:25.18`	`sedai\|`	`i had bigwigs at one point`
`02:25.25`	`CIA-4`	`03xyphor * r55392 10SpellDamage/ (SpellDamage.lua SpellDamage.toc): SpellDamage: Updated TOC to add correct embed`
`02:26.54`	`Xinhuan`	`there isn't really any compelling reason to use both`
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`02:30.17`	`Diao`	`using both is pointless lol`
`02:30.21`	`Diao`	`it's redundant :(`
`02:30.31`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: feature request for fubar: vertical bars (no text on any icons)`
`02:31.08`	`Gngsk`	`I asked for that like a year ago!`
`02:31.23`	`Zhinjio`	`never hurts to ask.`
`02:31.43`	`Provus`	`Xinhuan when you say you can only do it in code what do you mean?`
`02:31.49`	`Provus`	`You can only do it as part of an addon feature, not a keybinding?`
`02:32.12`	`Xinhuan`	`the default UI doesn't attempt to different LShift from RShift`
`02:32.20`	`Xinhuan`	`so yes, it has to be part of an addon feature`
`02:32.23`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: that was requested like, 18 months ago`
`02:32.26`	`Xinhuan`	`or a macro you specifically write`
`02:32.26`	`Provus`	`I'm using TrinityBars`
`02:32.32`	`Provus`	`It doesn't seem to be either`
`02:32.35`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: I don't see it as being worth it`
`02:32.41`	`Provus`	`Are there any mods that support it just yet?`
`02:32.50`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: and I want to get away from FuBar being a general-purpose menu bar`
`02:33.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`hrm`
`02:33.15`	`Provus`	`Flexbar doesn't, TrinityBars doesn't, Bongos doesn't, I don't think Bartender does either`
`02:33.16`	`Gnarfoz`	`how do you control frame backdrops through Lua?`
`02:33.26`	`ckknight`	`Zhinjio: (not that I don't appreciate the requests or anything, I know you're a good guy and all)`
`02:33.35`	`ckknight`	`Gnarfoz: :SetBackdrop`
`02:33.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight: thanks, omniscient ckknight =D`
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`02:34.29`	`Provus`	`Is there no way to set up a binding manually?`
`02:34.33`	`Provus`	`To do this?`
`02:34.49`	`ckknight`	`Provus: check SpellBinder?`
`02:35.11`	`Orionshock`	`nevcairiel: can i ask for you help with an options table?, im getting nil errors thrown at me`
`02:35.19`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: nod ... one of the common uses now seems to be a bar to get rid of the crap on the minimap. So I almost have one bar thats is just icons that open other programs.`
`02:35.32`	`Zhinjio`	`I hate having crap on the minimap.`
`02:35.42`	`Provus`	`ck: Unless it was a change not mentioned in the changelog, yes.`
`02:35.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`that's what I use fubar for, too. and location display and time, mail... whathaveyou. :)`
`02:36.41`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight: where would you like to take FuBar, if away from general-purpose menu bar?`
`02:37.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`to the moon, alice!`
`02:37.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`I asked ckk, not alice :<`
`02:37.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`or rather, I'm not alice`
`02:37.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`damn, I need sleep :P`
`02:37.56`	`a-stray-cat`	`sleep is for the weak.`
`02:38.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`or the undercaffeinated.`
`02:38.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`one of these days, Gnarfoz, POW! straight to the moon`
`02:38.48`	`ckknight`	`Gnarfoz: from a configuration bar to what it should be: an information bar`
`02:38.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`NightHawkTheSane: you know how to make teh funneh :>`
`02:39.22`	`a-stray-cat`	`ckknight: but then where will we stash all our config icons :<`
`02:39.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight: at 1600 pixels wide... I don't really think I'd know what useful information I'd put there to take all that space up`
`02:39.44`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, what a-stray-cat said`
`02:39.44`	`Gnarfoz`	`:D`
`02:39.46`	`ckknight`	`a-stray-cat: inside RockConfig`
`02:39.57`	`ckknight`	`Gnarfoz: you can resize it`
`02:40.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`i know`
`02:40.10`	`a-stray-cat`	`aw, thats no fun. sometimes dropdown menus are easier than a big window`
`02:40.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`that'd leave me with a bar that covers ... not the entire width :D`
`02:40.38`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gnarfoz: learn to use negative space? :P`
`02:40.49`	`Gnarfoz`	`NightHawkTheSane: your mom fits inside negative space :<`
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`02:41.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... i.. er.. wait, what are you saying?`
`02:41.02`	`ckknight`	`burn`
`02:41.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`NightHawkTheSane: I don't even know :D`
`02:41.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Gnarfoz: woo!`
`02:47.00`	`kenlyric`	`it's a smart way of saying she has her head up her ass.`
`02:47.27`	`Gnarfoz`	`I R SMRT`
`02:47.32`	`CIA-4`	`03toadkiller * r55393 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua:`
`02:47.32`	`CIA-4`	`AutoBar :`
`02:47.32`	`CIA-4`	`-- Fix shapeshiftFormSet -> shapeshiftSet`
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`02:54.25`	`Provus`	`Does anyone know what addons currently support left and right shift differentiation?`
`02:57.24`	`ckknight`	`what's a good iso burning program for Windows? (making a Linux CD)`
`02:58.04`	`Kerafyrm`	`i use nero`
`02:58.16`	`durcyn`	`burnatonce`
`02:58.27`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: cd burner xp`
`02:59.55`	`haste`	`what Mr. JB said`
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`03:03.22`	`Xinhuan`	`Provus: i'm guessing none :)`
`03:04.01`	`aestil`	`which mod would be best overall for keeping track of what your alts, have in their banks/bags/mail?`
`03:04.07`	`Provus`	`Damnit.`
`03:04.12`	`aestil`	`aka, is sanity working?`
`03:04.21`	`Provus`	`Is it supported in macros?`
`03:04.33`	`Xinhuan`	`probably yes, i didn't check`
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`03:07.06`	`Diao`	`sanity is working just fine`
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`03:08.54`	`harldephin`	`The Grudge has a very strange timeline.`
`03:09.36`	`Obelixprime`	`illidan down...`
`03:09.40`	`Obelixprime`	`but i was sitting out :(`
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`03:11.07`	`Kerafyrm`	`doh`
`03:11.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`lol owned by a stray Dust Howler in Nagrand :<`
`03:11.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`I shouldn't turn winamp loud enough to down out my "sound in background" wow sound :<`
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`03:13.49`	`Gnarfoz`	`aestil: BankItems :>`
`03:13.56`	`Diao`	`!points 250`
`03:13.57`	`Xinhuan`	`250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating.`
`03:16.07`	`Xinhuan`	`Gnarfoz: yes? :)`
`03:16.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`Xinhuan: just pimping your addon^^ it does exactly what aestil asked for ;)`
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`03:16.55`	`Xinhuan`	`aha :)`
`03:17.35`	`Xinhuan`	`so this guildbank support thing is slightly more complicated than i thought it would be`
`03:19.31`	`ulic`	`trying to do what?`
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`03:20.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`ulic: GuildBankItems ;p`
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`03:21.04`	`Xinhuan`	`i haven't actually started coding anything yet, should begin sometime later today`
`03:21.23`	`Xinhuan`	`copying the default ui's framexml is goign to be a pain in the ass to convert to pure lua`
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`03:26.56`	`Zhinjio`	`ckknight: per earlier topic: it seems that the configuration vs. menu bar functionality is more of a usage thing as opposed to a design choice, no?`
`03:27.49`	`Diao`	`so it's like bankitems but for guild bank?`
`03:28.01`	`Zhinjio`	`in other words: why enforce a limitation when it seems to be working well as both?`
`03:28.13`	`Xinhuan`	`diao, i haven't updated bankitems to include the guildbank yet`
`03:28.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`but it'll be what bankitems does, for the guild bank: look at the last known guild bank state while not at a bank`
`03:29.26`	`JoshBorke`	`just killed 2nd boss in ZA, which boss should we attempt?`
`03:29.28`	`Xinhuan`	`rather than store the last known guildbank state per char, i realized i have to store it per guild instead`
`03:29.31`	`Tain`	`Geez I go away for a couple of months, what the hell is this new FuBar GUI configuration monstrosity?`
`03:29.31`	`JoshBorke`	`jan or halazzi?`
`03:29.36`	`Xinhuan`	`JoshBorke: 2nd = which animal?`
`03:29.40`	`JoshBorke`	`Xinhuan: eagle`
`03:29.43`	`JoshBorke`	`tain: pwned`
`03:29.44`	`Thelyna`	`halazzi is probably easier`
`03:29.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`Tain: that'd be RockConfig ;-)`
`03:29.59`	`JoshBorke`	`i was thikning halazzi would be easier`
`03:29.59`	`Xinhuan`	`kill the lynx one next`
`03:30.04`	`Thelyna`	`jan'alai is a pain in the ass to clear to`
`03:30.10`	`Thelyna`	`lynx = halazzi, so yes`
`03:30.11`	`Tain`	`Yeah well it doesn't work very well when you have multiple Fubar panels.`
`03:30.18`	`Thelyna`	`jan'alai = dragonhawk`
`03:30.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`Tain: how so? also, blame ckknight ;)`
`03:30.48`	`Tain`	`I always blame ckknight`
`03:31.40`	`Tain`	`Now I have to actually go into individual panels and tell them what plugins they can see, rather than just right clicking and enabling one`
`03:32.36`	`CIA-4`	`03grennon * r55394 10AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem.lua: AltClickToAddItem: Add exemption for IMA Mass Auction, add some comments to the code`
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`03:36.44`	`aestil`	`can i hide bank items?`
`03:36.54`	`Xinhuan`	`hide?`
`03:37.38`	`aestil`	`off minimap`
`03:37.45`	`aestil`	`onto fubar, or just hidden entirely.`
`03:37.55`	`Xinhuan`	`yes look in options`
`03:38.20`	`aestil`	`ah, ty`
`03:39.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`gah, im just not in the mood tonight to watch nausicaä`
`03:41.11`	`aestil`	`Xinhuan: will bankitems put in tooltip what alt has that same item in bank/bag/mail?`
`03:41.16`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`03:41.22`	`Xinhuan`	`the only mod that does that is Sanity`
`03:41.33`	`Xinhuan`	`however you can /bis item`
`03:41.35`	`Xinhuan`	`to search it`
`03:42.10`	`aestil`	`thats not a feature you are interested in adding?`
`03:42.11`	`JoshBorke`	`and apparently we're going after jan`
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`03:42.59`	`Xinhuan`	`no, i don't think so, at least, not soon`
`03:43.03`	`Xinhuan`	`its been requested before`
`03:43.26`	`Xinhuan`	`but to do such a feature, i have to cache all the items in all your chars/alts`
`03:43.34`	`Xinhuan`	`in a different manner, doubling memory use`
`03:44.11`	`JoshBorke`	`oh boohoo :-P`
`03:44.11`	`Xinhuan`	`or incur a huge calculation penalty on every tooltip`
`03:44.13`	`JoshBorke`	`memory is cheap`
`03:44.33`	`Xinhuan`	`could add it, but it won't be before guildbank`
`03:45.38`	`JoshBorke`	`Xinhuan: what's the issue?`
`03:46.34`	`Xinhuan`	`nothing is the issue really, its just that BankItems is designed to remember the contents of your bank, not really something that adds info to tooltips`
`03:46.44`	`Jaxon`	`There is already a tooltip addon`
`03:47.10`	`Jaxon`	`For that. BagSync or something`
`03:48.23`	`Xinhuan`	`ya the issue though is that each such addon stores a copy of every item in all your alts banks etc`
`03:48.31`	`Jaxon`	`Right.`
`03:48.39`	`Xinhuan`	`so essentially while addons are doing different things, each is storing a copy of every char's bank`
`03:48.49`	`Xinhuan`	`hence the feature request`
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`04:00.15`	`Provus`	`Alright I see why this works this way.`
`04:01.01`	`Provus`	`WoW doesn't recognize the difference between LSHIFT and RSHIFT in the bindings-cache.txt and most action bars bind their stuff in there.`
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`04:05.57`	`buu`	`Hahaha`
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`04:13.40`	`Wobwork`	`~blame buu`
`04:13.40`	`purl`	`ACTION blames buu (and Canada) for all the evil in the world`
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`04:15.46`	`CIA-4`	`03scorpion * r55395 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):`
`04:15.46`	`CIA-4`	`AutoBar :`
`04:15.46`	`CIA-4`	`- update zhTW localization`
`04:15.46`	`CIA-4`	`- update zhCN localization`
`04:20.28`	`kadrahil`	`!ap 1640`
`04:20.28`	`ThraeBot`	`kadrahil: Arena points from a rating of 1640 is, 2v2: 395, 3v3: 457, 5v5: 519`
`04:20.35`	`kadrahil`	`!ap 1560`
`04:20.35`	`ThraeBot`	`kadrahil: Arena points from a rating of 1560 is, 2v2: 314, 3v3: 364, 5v5: 413`
`04:21.04`	`ckknight`	`the Pilgrims were illegal aliens`
`04:23.02`	`JoshBorke`	`kadrahil: i got a new weapon =D`
`04:23.12`	`kadrahil`	`grats`
`04:23.17`	`kadrahil`	`i'm getting one when season 3 starts`
`04:23.20`	`kadrahil`	`my waraxe`
`04:23.21`	`JoshBorke`	`:-P`
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`04:27.57`	`CIA-4`	`tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r714 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/27_28_Redridge_Mountains.lua: TG: redridge tweaks`
`04:30.57`	`Orionshock`	`lua> local t = { val = 4} ; if t.val then return true else false end`
`04:30.57`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "local t = { val = 4} ; if t.val then return true else false end"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'false'`
`04:31.05`	`Orionshock`	`lua> local t = { val = 4} ; if t.val then return true else return false end`
`04:31.06`	`lua_bot`	`Orionshock: true`
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`04:32.42`	`Xinhuan`	`val=4 is just a shortcut for ["val"] = 4`
`04:33.01`	`Xinhuan`	`only works on strings without special chars or spaces and doesn't begin with a number`
`04:33.44`	`Orionshock`	`right`
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`04:34.08`	`Orionshock`	`but wondering if numbers returned true in an if then challenge`
`04:34.30`	`Xinhuan`	`anything that isn't false or nil`
`04:34.35`	`Xinhuan`	`will evaluate to true`
`04:34.42`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:34.47`	`Orionshock`	`wow dosent seem to like it`
`04:34.53`	`Xinhuan`	`cos you're missing a . in there`
`04:34.55`	`JoshBorke`	`you need dots`
`04:34.59`	`Xinhuan`	`after [npc]`
`04:35.00`	`Orionshock`	`?`
`04:35.05`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`04:35.08`	`JoshBorke`	`MTable[npc].qOptions.[quest]`
`04:35.16`	`JoshBorke`	`assuming qOptions is a subtable of MTable[npc]`
`04:35.31`	`Xinhuan`	`abc.def is the same as abc["def"]`
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`04:35.54`	`Xinhuan`	`MTable[npc].qOptions[quest] is probably what you want`
`04:36.15`	`Orionshock`	`ya`
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`04:36.23`	`Wobwork`	`you might want to localise some of those lookups if you're doing a lot of processing on them`
`04:36.23`	`Xinhuan`	`note MTable[npc] is not the same as MTable.npc`
`04:36.38`	`Orionshock`	`actualy it's a single point look up`
`04:36.38`	`Xinhuan`	`because in the first case, npc is a variable, not a string`
`04:37.08`	`Orionshock`	`ya Xinhuan i know`
`04:39.28`	`Orionshock`	`ive been adding different quests to my addon ...`
`04:39.30`	`Orionshock`	`urg...`
`04:40.27`	`JoshBorke`	`nn`
`04:41.40`	`ckknight`	`bbl`
`04:42.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`who are the Pilgrims (note the capital P?)`
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`04:46.13`	`Fisker-`	`I HAVE DELICIOUS CAKE`
`04:46.20`	`Fisker-`	`you must eat`
`04:46.22`	`Fisker-`	`NOM NOM NOM`
`04:46.34`	`Wobwork`	`The cake is a lie =(`
`04:48.14`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`04:48.16`	`Fisker-`	`stupid materials`
`04:48.24`	`CIA-4`	`03ominous * r55396 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update`
`04:48.26`	`Fisker-`	`need to make a dire maul tribute run to get some of them`
`04:48.47`	`Wobwork`	`What're the ingredients?`
`04:50.28`	`Aeyan`	`I believe in the cake.`
`04:52.09`	`Wobwork`	`"The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake."`
`04:53.31`	`Fisker-`	`Wobwork some vendor stuff + flask of port, some small egss and some mageroyals`
`04:53.39`	`Fisker-`	`flask of port is from the drunk guy in dire maul`
`04:54.19`	`Fisker-`	`but i think it's a messy recipe`
`04:54.23`	`fridgid`	`any recommendations for trash timer mods?`
`04:55.03`	`Fisker-`	`Incubator`
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`04:59.45`	`kadrahil`	`http://i1.tinypic.com/7wjimw2.png`
`04:59.50`	`kadrahil`	`i win`
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`05:05.18`	`Erica`	`Hi... getting "attempt to index local 'bar' (a nil value)`
`05:05.20`	`a-stray-cat`	`3 deaths? wtsuck.`
`05:05.23`	`Erica`	`in Bartender`
`05:05.38`	`Erica`	`it's when I try to enable the xp or reputation bars`
`05:07.15`	`Erica`	`Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?`
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`05:12.31`	`kadrahil`	`a-stray-cat: yeah, one of them, their entire team zerged me midfield :(`
`05:13.05`	`kadrahil`	`another time i was about to aim shot a mage in the face and a rogue got me from behind`
`05:13.43`	`Fisker-`	`fail kadrahil`
`05:13.47`	`kadrahil`	`yeah`
`05:13.54`	`Fisker-`	`i was in an av where i was top healing and damage`
`05:14.05`	`a-stray-cat`	`that must have been quite the AV`
`05:14.07`	`kadrahil`	`nerf paladins`
`05:14.13`	`a-stray-cat`	`i miss pre-BC av`
`05:14.17`	`a-stray-cat`	`i got to 100-0 one game`
`05:14.36`	`a-stray-cat`	`then i fell off the bridge!`
`05:14.42`	`NoLife3`	`hey guys is there any addon that allows me to move the minimap icons freely?`
`05:15.23`	`kadrahil`	`get a minimap mod like simpleminimap`
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`05:15.56`	`NoLife3`	`i have that but i cant move the battleground icon or herbalism`
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`05:19.34`	`aestil`	`Xinhuan: this looks like what i want. although having the option of incuring the memory penalty or not, would be nice, with regards to info in tooltips.`
`05:20.24`	`Xinhuan`	`so much to do, so little time :)`
`05:20.48`	`aestil`	`no hurry/preasure. its cool. just mentioning it.`
`05:31.08`	`fridgid`	`anybody know what it means if certian mods are grey in WAU? missing libs perhaps?`
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`05:35.09`	`CIA-4`	`03xinhuan * r55397 10AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem.lua: AltClickToAddItem: Fix IsAddonLoaded --> IsAddOnLoaded`
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`05:37.55`	`NoLife3`	`fridgid: grey means its ignored so it doesnt update`
`05:38.13`	`fridgid`	`oh`
`05:38.14`	`fridgid`	`ok`
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`05:45.37`	`Antiarc`	`know what'd be a great mod?`
`05:45.49`	`Antiarc`	`A little nameplate augmentation that showed a check or an X if my target was in or out of melee range`
`05:45.54`	`Antiarc`	`It's damn hard to keep track in Hyjal`
`05:46.14`	`NoLife3`	`hehe`
`05:46.36`	`NoLife3`	`use range option from bar3?`
`05:46.37`	`Xinhuan`	`o_o`
`05:46.45`	`Antiarc`	`I use it`
`05:46.47`	`Antiarc`	`But I watch nameplates`
`05:47.05`	`Xinhuan`	`isn't there a actionbar option that can hide/dim or color the hotkey`
`05:47.28`	`NoLife3`	`he said he doesnt want to look at his actionbar ;)`
`05:47.31`	`Antiarc`	`I have it. But I'm not watching the bars in combat`
`05:48.36`	`Antiarc`	`plus my bars are dimmed most of the time since my energy pool is usually empty`
`05:50.31`	`Antiarc`	`It should put a symbol for banished and sheeped mobs too`
`05:51.43`	`NoLife3`	`do you care with banishing?`
`05:52.02`	`Antiarc`	`beating on a banished mob for 10 sec before I realize it because I can't see it sucks`
`05:52.20`	`Jaxon`	`"Immune" "Immune" "Immune" doesn't show up?`
`05:52.33`	`NoLife3`	`disabled error messages probably`
`05:52.44`	`Diao`	`lol`
`05:53.09`	`NoLife3`	`but antiarc as a fellow rogue im kinda disappointed that you cant see a banished target ;)`
`05:53.16`	`Diao`	`fail at not seeing banihsed targets :P`
`05:53.18`	`Antiarc`	`NoLife3: Ever done Hyjal trash?`
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`05:53.25`	`NoLife3`	`ofc i did :)`
`05:53.39`	`Antiarc`	`It's impossible to see with everything stacked on top of each other! :P`
`05:54.20`	`NoLife3`	`the only targets we banish are the infernals`
`05:54.31`	`NoLife3`	`we dont use melee on those`
`05:54.37`	`NoLife3`	`so its not a big deal for me`
`05:55.31`	`NoLife3`	`also we have a melee main assist`
`05:56.37`	`ckknight`	`what's a good bittorrent client for Linux? (Ubuntu)`
`05:56.42`	`NoLife3`	`hmm why is bigwigs boss messages font so small after i updated it :\`
`05:57.27`	`Aeyan`	`ckknight, dunno but utorrent definitely doesn't function despite wine`
`05:57.50`	`ckknight`	`I heard it did work well under wine`
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`05:58.43`	`NoLife3`	`i use foxtorrent`
`05:59.28`	`Aeyan`	`I heard it did, but it definitely didn't with 7.10 and utorrent 1.7.5`
`05:59.32`	`Aeyan`	`Maybe you'll have better luck`
`05:59.39`	`ckknight`	`I just wanna watch Dexter...`
`05:59.46`	`Aeyan`	`Hehe`
`05:59.47`	`ckknight`	`I mean, download legal media`
`05:59.52`	`ckknight`	`yea, that's the ticket`
`05:59.55`	`NoLife3`	`i wouldnt use utorrent 1.7`
`06:00.02`	`NoLife3`	`just stick with 1.6 it works fine`
`06:00.14`	`Antiarc`	`we had some fel stalkers banished for some reason`
`06:01.00`	`Xinhuan`	`i wonder if you can banish archimonde at 1% :)`
`06:01.06`	`Xinhuan`	`i guess he's immune :(`
`06:01.11`	`fridgid`	`<ckknight> I mean, download legal media`
`06:01.12`	`fridgid`	`me too`
`06:01.42`	`NoLife3`	`xinhuan: for what reason :)`
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`06:01.57`	`Xinhuan`	`for the sheer fun of it :)`
`06:01.58`	`CIA-4`	`03gamefaq * r55399 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast.toc: Click2Cast: deDE Update`
`06:02.47`	`NoLife3`	`archimonde is already a boring fight`
`06:03.01`	`NoLife3`	`at 10% its gets even more boring :\`
`06:03.29`	`Xinhuan`	`so my guild got him to 31% yesterday as our best attempt, hope to kill him tonight ~_~`
`06:03.51`	`NoLife3`	`31% with how many alive?`
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`06:04.30`	`Xinhuan`	`was 31% with 4 ppl dead and no soul charges on archi, then a pally died and the 4 sec silence killed the tank`
`06:04.35`	`Xinhuan`	`~_~`
`06:04.36`	`purl`	`:/`
`06:05.07`	`Xinhuan`	`didn't really have the most ideal tank either, was a druid`
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`06:05.10`	`NoLife3`	`its just a stay alive fight`
`06:05.12`	`Xinhuan`	`since our MT wasn't on`
`06:05.46`	`NoLife3`	`if people fail to stay alive replace them or ask them why they are dying and hope they dont die again :)`
`06:06.04`	`Xinhuan`	`would replace them if there were people to replace the with!`
`06:06.09`	`Xinhuan`	`them*`
`06:06.35`	`NoLife3`	`recruit more :)`
`06:06.35`	`Xinhuan`	`then again, 24-man would prob be easier`
`06:06.39`	`Xinhuan`	`than if a 25th died`
`06:07.51`	`Xinhuan`	`there's a bit of a luck element too, if your melee doesn't get airbursted at all, archimonde dies like 1-2 minutes faster :)`
`06:09.32`	`NoLife3`	`there are basically 3 things that make the fight trivial. pvp trinket(for casters/healers)/tremor totem for melee. Stay away from doomfires if fear cd is close and click the tears in time`
`06:09.33`	`NoLife3`	`:)`
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`06:23.21`	`xyu`	`archimonde is so hot, i can't wait to down him. so much caster gear`
`06:23.47`	`xyu`	`we're only on the 3rd boss though`
`06:24.23`	`CIA-4`	`03hegarol * r55402 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`06:24.23`	`CIA-4`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`06:24.23`	`CIA-4`	`- ZA update`
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`06:25.37`	`CIA-4`	`03gamefaq * r55403 10EQCompare/EQCompare.toc: EQCompare: Added deDE Description and Toc Bump to 2.3`
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`06:29.44`	`CIA-4`	`03pettigrow * r55404 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: frFR Update`
`06:32.21`	`CIA-4`	`03hegarol * r55405 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:`
`06:32.21`	`CIA-4`	`AtlasLoot_RepFactions:`
`06:32.21`	`CIA-4`	`- Moved Drums from Exalted to Honored`
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`06:42.00`	`CIA-4`	`03orionshock 07orionshock * r55406 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (Hourglass2.toc Locale-enUS.lua core.lua):`
`06:42.00`	`CIA-4`	`Hourglass2:`
`06:42.00`	`CIA-4`	`-add 1 more shaman spell`
`06:42.00`	`CIA-4`	`-bump toc`
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`06:48.37`	`jwwpua`	`what does it mean when an addon has a line through it?`
`06:49.11`	`NoLife3`	`what line? where are you seeing this?`
`06:49.46`	`jwwpua`	`through the entire addons name and description`
`06:49.50`	`Orionshock`	`jwwpua: means the addon's toc is out of date`
`06:49.53`	`jwwpua`	`in WAU`
`06:49.59`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: in refernce to how wau does thing`
`06:50.15`	`jwwpua`	`is there a way to fix it automatically?`
`06:50.52`	`Orionshock`	`you say fix implying that it's broken`
`06:50.58`	`Orionshock`	`when in fact it is not`
`06:51.06`	`NoLife3`	`orion: his question was a bit retortic thats why i asked where :)`
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`06:51.24`	`dispel`	`afternoon`
`06:51.43`	`jwwpua`	`Orionshock: hrmm my brother said it asked him if he wanted it to correct this, but I don't recall getting that prompt`
`06:52.00`	`Orionshock`	`& neither do i...`
`06:52.06`	`Orionshock`	`dbl check what your looking at`
`06:52.54`	`Orionshock`	`Fin: ping`
`06:53.20`	`NoLife3`	`orion: whats up with the sickofclickingdailies folders in the svn trunk?`
`06:53.37`	`jwwpua`	`..`
`06:53.54`	`dispel`	`any healers here that do 25 man raids?`
`06:54.30`	`Orionshock`	`what bout it NoLife3 ?`
`06:54.36`	`jwwpua`	`for example, CooldownCount is listed under "Installed," but it has a horizontal line through it and through the description`
`06:54.39`	`NoLife3`	`which one should i use?`
`06:54.46`	`Orionshock`	`should only be one`
`06:55.36`	`NoLife3`	`http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/`
`06:55.38`	`dispel`	`does any one here have a custom UI for healesr that raid?`
`06:55.43`	`Orionshock`	`ah that one`
`06:55.55`	`Orionshock`	`v5 is one built on Ace3 & config`
`06:56.03`	`Orionshock`	`you'll need the ace3 branch to use it`
`06:56.08`	`NoLife3`	`aha thats why its not working :P`
`06:56.15`	`Orionshock`	`it's basicly the same addon but with configuration options....`
`06:56.22`	`Orionshock`	`and a few more quests atm...`
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`06:57.09`	`dispel`	`so no healers here great..`
`06:57.28`	`CIA-8`	`03orionshock 07orionshock * r55407 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/Locale-enUS.lua:`
`06:57.28`	`CIA-8`	`Hourglass2:`
`06:57.28`	`CIA-8`	`-fix locale table.. oops`
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`06:58.09`	`NoLife3`	`so which one should i use :)`
`06:58.16`	`Orionshock`	`either or`
`06:58.25`	`Orionshock`	`i usualy try to commit only shit that works..`
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`06:59.01`	`NoLife3`	`i was following the thread and tought you fixed the netherwing crystals quest`
`06:59.23`	`Orionshock`	`well it's not really a quest, thats the problem`
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`06:59.49`	`Orionshock`	`so with that one npc it'll loop like a bitch, and won't actualy turn in the others..`
`06:59.54`	`Orionshock`	`.. should remove it..`
`07:00.16`	`NoLife3`	`i dont do the quest either but i was wondering`
`07:00.33`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`07:00.38`	`Wobin`	`Dear Regions Bank member, We'd like to inform you that your Message Center has 1 new message. Please log in immediately and read the message.`
`07:00.42`	`Wobin`	`<...>`
`07:00.43`	`Orionshock`	`but v5 is looking nice IMHO`
`07:00.47`	`Wobin`	`Choosing to ignore this message will result in a temporary suspension of your account within 24 hours, until you will choose to solve this unpleasant situation.`
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`07:00.54`	`Wobin`	`UNPLEASANT SITUATION`
`07:01.02`	`sb`	`morning`
`07:01.28`	`NoLife3`	`where do i get the ace3 branch?`
`07:01.41`	`sb`	`svn!?`
`07:01.44`	`Orionshock`	`svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ace3/beta`
`07:01.48`	`sb`	`ah :o`
`07:02.03`	`Orionshock`	`you'll need to adjust the casing on that URL`
`07:02.07`	`NoLife3`	`cheers`
`07:02.52`	`Orionshock`	`anyone else using prat and notice video lag like a btch when using macros?`
`07:03.27`	`NoLife3`	`i noticed huge fps issues since 2.3`
`07:03.45`	`NoLife3`	`lost like 20-30 fps in some raids`
`07:04.02`	`Orionshock`	`i had a rather simple macro " /cast Claw ; /startattack " and if i spammed it, it' nearly loged me out`
`07:04.23`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah`
`07:04.23`	`sb`	`NoLife3: some guildies also have that issue`
`07:04.31`	`Antiarc`	`Both Hyjal and BT are running at 5-8 FPS for me right now`
`07:04.39`	`Antiarc`	`Whereas I was 30-40 before the patch, while in combat`
`07:04.41`	`sb`	`however its like +10fps for me - and no more freezes (addon problems i think :o)`
`07:04.46`	`NoLife3`	`same antiarc especially the human camp`
`07:04.51`	`Antiarc`	`Yup`
`07:05.18`	`NoLife3`	`looking to other side of the map the fps jumps to 80-90 again`
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`07:06.25`	`Antiarc`	`yup, same here`
`07:06.54`	`Orionshock`	`hey NoLife3 if you try v5 out, tell me how you like it`
`07:07.01`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:07.16`	`NoLife3`	`i need to figure out how to download all these ace3 folders first :D`
`07:07.27`	`Orionshock`	`svn client`
`07:08.24`	`Orionshock`	`tbh i don't want to put v5 in the trunk at the fear of getting my head bitten off`
`07:08.47`	`NoLife3`	`well its an addon that changed my life :)`
`07:08.58`	`NoLife3`	`i hate clicking`
`07:09.35`	`Orionshock`	`the new one has the cooking and pvp and 2 of the instance quests in it`
`07:09.48`	`Orionshock`	`with support even on the cooking ones to pick witch one you want`
`07:10.38`	`NoLife3`	`awesome ill try to contribute :)`
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`07:13.49`	`Birdemani`	`so, I think I may have found what has caused my FPS to drop: PRAT. In raid since 2.3 9FPS, removed PRAT and I jumped to 45FPS`
`07:14.21`	`Olison`	`:o`
`07:14.24`	`NoLife3`	`hmm`
`07:14.27`	`Olison`	`thats quite massive`
`07:14.39`	`NoLife3`	`but i have guildies who are not using prat and still got fps issues`
`07:14.43`	`Birdemani`	`Looking at my taintlog its nothing but PRAT spam`
`07:14.52`	`Orionshock`	`Birdemani: do u use alot of macros?`
`07:14.53`	`Birdemani`	`ya, a lot of people are having it aswell without PRAT`
`07:14.57`	`Birdemani`	`yes, I use a lot of macros`
`07:15.09`	`Orionshock`	`re enable prat and try w/o them`
`07:15.15`	`jwwpua`	`in WAU, should I choose to update with or without externals?`
`07:15.30`	`Orionshock`	`jwwpua: how many wowace addons do u run?`
`07:15.37`	`jwwpua`	`about 20`
`07:16.02`	`Birdemani`	`delete my macros from my system or play without them? I've done both as I use macros for tanking but not dps and I had the same issue. What I haven't done is delete my macros from that UI frame`
`07:16.03`	`Orionshock`	`pending on what type, and various other things if you use more than bout 15 you should run with out`
`07:16.20`	`jwwpua`	`I haven't played since 2.1, and I'm trying to get rid of these addon errors in-game without wiping all my addons`
`07:16.25`	`Orionshock`	`Birdemani: play with out them, leave as is but play with out`
`07:16.36`	`jwwpua`	`keep getting one about DewDropLib requiring Acelibrary`
`07:16.52`	`Orionshock`	`jwwpua: unless you seriously know what your doing, just nuke your addon folder and try again`
`07:16.58`	`Birdemani`	`I did that as DPS the other night and I had the same issue orion (playing without using macros, but one was on my bar but I never used it)`
`07:17.12`	`Orionshock`	`odd`
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`07:17.39`	`Birdemani`	`Are there updates to PRAT coming? Because I see plenty of taint issues with it`
`07:17.45`	`Orionshock`	`Birdemani: tbh when >I< troubleshoot FPS issues, i start with things that are likely to have an OnUpdate frame`
`07:18.50`	`Orionshock`	`Birdemani: thow up ur taint log on pastey and then secure the link and then post on the prat thread`
`07:18.57`	`Orionshock`	`or post the file in the post`
`07:19.31`	`Birdemani`	`I'll have to get another taint log as I deleted a few addons and deleted it to see what was fixing it. I'll run a heroic and see what I get again`
`07:22.13`	`Orionshock`	`dehy whoops`
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`07:22.57`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:23.09`	`Orionshock`	`aparently it does do something on 2`
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`07:23.36`	`Xinhuan`	`it does. it logs every single execution taint`
`07:23.46`	`Xinhuan`	`and generates a 5 mb file every 2 minutes or so on avg`
`07:23.52`	`Birdemani`	`ouch`
`07:23.57`	`Orionshock`	`>.>`
`07:24.02`	`Xinhuan`	`so if you let it run for an hour, you'll prob have a 100 mb taint.log`
`07:24.11`	`Xinhuan`	`since every frame is running tainted code`
`07:24.19`	`Xinhuan`	`that taints execution`
`07:24.47`	`Xinhuan`	`however it is very handy to track exactly when and where the first taint is`
`07:24.54`	`Xinhuan`	`and backtrack that taint`
`07:25.24`	`Xinhuan`	`to the source of why that variable got tainted via an execution taint, which was tainted by another tainted variable, which was tainted by another execution taint.. etc`
`07:25.34`	`Xinhuan`	`backtrack enough you can find the source taint`
`07:26.15`	`Orionshock`	`but taint is expected right?`
`07:26.19`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`07:26.35`	`Xinhuan`	`taint only matters if a protected action was blocked`
`07:26.38`	`Xinhuan`	`otherwise it doesn't matter`
`07:26.59`	`Xinhuan`	`for eg, lets say you summon your pet in combat and it tells you action was blocked due to taint`
`07:27.06`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55408 10Mapster/ (Coords.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: more tweaks to avoid the callback`
`07:27.07`	`Xinhuan`	`in the log, you would search for "blocked"`
`07:27.26`	`Xinhuan`	`then, a few lines above that addon blocked`
`07:27.45`	`Xinhuan`	`there would be a "execution tainted by..."`
`07:28.02`	`Xinhuan`	`there would be a "execution tainted by addonA while reading variable X"`
`07:28.31`	`Xinhuan`	`then you would search the file for "global variable X tainted by addonB"`
`07:28.53`	`Orionshock`	`Xinhuan: you prolly know, what is pcall() ?`
`07:28.54`	`Xinhuan`	`and the reason why X got tainted is usually because of a "execution tainted by addonC while reading variable Y" a few lines up`
`07:29.34`	`Xinhuan`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/8.4.html`
`07:29.42`	`Xinhuan`	`pcall() is explained there`
`07:30.38`	`Xinhuan`	`pcall() is expensive, because it runs in a protected environment`
`07:31.22`	`Xinhuan`	`but your code would not crash run-time-error because the function would just return and you would run the error-handling code in the "else" section`
`07:37.25`	`Xinhuan`	`so anyway, using that taintlog, you would backtrack the taint cause`
`07:37.59`	`Xinhuan`	`for durabilityfu, this was backtracked to the addon tainting a blizzard function that couldn't be tainted (hook vs securehook)`
`07:39.16`	`Orionshock`	`LOL`
`07:39.19`	`Orionshock`	`taint with secure hook`
`07:39.42`	`Xinhuan`	`no, i meant that :Hook() was used rather than :SecureHook()`
`07:39.45`	`Xinhuan`	`hence the taint`
`07:39.53`	`Orionshock`	`ic`
`07:43.24`	`Antiarc`	`AUGH`
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`07:43.35`	`Antiarc`	`Internet memes + political ads = DO NOT WANT`
`07:43.36`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8`
`07:44.15`	`a-stray-cat`	`~seen evl`
`07:44.40`	`purl`	`evl <n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 1d 13h 38m 49s ago, saying: 'any version that utilizes the new api to scan the entire ah?'.`
`07:44.40`	`a-stray-cat`	`why does purl hate me :<`
`07:46.03`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:46.10`	`Orionshock`	`they should so put that one in`
`07:47.13`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/d8bc52be2b.jpg`
`07:47.24`	`NoLife3`	`anyone has expirience with ibm db2 data server software?`
`07:47.37`	`many`	`aeons ago i had`
`07:47.57`	`NoLife3`	`what is aeons :)`
`07:48.36`	`nevcairiel`	`a very long time`
`07:48.58`	`NoLife3`	`oh`
`07:49.39`	`a-stray-cat`	`i thought an aeon was a ffx summon`
`07:49.47`	`a-stray-cat`	`eon is a very long time though :p`
`07:50.04`	`CIA-8`	`03gamefaq * r55409 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.toc Locale.deDE.lua):`
`07:50.04`	`CIA-8`	`CooldownCount:`
`07:50.04`	`CIA-8`	`- Added deDE Local`
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`07:57.22`	`Orionshock`	`ah fk me - someone updated rating buster :\`
`07:59.02`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r55410 10Mapster/ (Coords.lua Mapster.lua): Mapster: allow disabling of the coords module`
`07:59.36`	`dispel`	`are tehre any healers here who raid?`
`07:59.43`	`Orionshock`	`nevcairiel: you going to setup mapster for note and and node tracking?`
`08:00.00`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`08:00.17`	`dispel`	`any one?`
`08:00.26`	`nevcairiel`	`im a healer`
`08:00.32`	`Orionshock`	`i do , what's up dispel ?`
`08:00.33`	`dispel`	`do you raid -_-`
`08:00.38`	`dispel`	`what type of UI do you use`
`08:00.43`	`dispel`	`the normal one do what`
`08:01.06`	`nevcairiel`	`nothing special, agUF + sRaidFrames + Bartender .. thats about the important parts for raiding`
`08:01.14`	`Orionshock`	`and clique`
`08:01.20`	`dispel`	`wat does clique do`
`08:01.24`	`dispel`	`and why need bartender?`
`08:01.25`	`Orionshock`	`click casting`
`08:01.36`	`dispel`	`wat u mean?`
`08:01.40`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`08:01.46`	`nevcairiel`	`you dont need bartender, it just makes it easier for me :P`
`08:01.51`	`dispel`	`ahha`
`08:01.51`	`nevcairiel`	`you dont "need" any addons`
`08:01.54`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:02.00`	`dispel`	`oh`
`08:02.09`	`dispel`	`does it help?`
`08:02.20`	`dispel`	`cause atm i use grid and i just click on who ever and heal`
`08:02.36`	`Orionshock`	`modifier (alt, ctrl, shift) + click (left , right , 3, 4,5) = spell cast`
`08:02.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i could never get used to click casting`
`08:03.03`	`nevcairiel`	`then again i mostly heal tanks anyway`
`08:03.08`	`dispel`	`yea same.`
`08:03.12`	`dispel`	`i mainly never raid heal`
`08:03.18`	`dispel`	`thats why blizzard made shamans!`
`08:03.41`	`nevcairiel`	`shamans and priests should heal raid`
`08:03.43`	`dispel`	`naw`
`08:03.46`	`dispel`	`with bartender`
`08:03.49`	`dispel`	`were do you keep your bars at?`
`08:04.05`	`nevcairiel`	`http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_111807_221421.jpg`
`08:04.11`	`nevcairiel`	`no raid ui, but bars visible :P`
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`08:04.45`	`dispel`	`hmm`
`08:04.51`	`dispel`	`can you show me what your Ui looks like in a 25 man raid?`
`08:05.06`	`Neebler`	`so who wants to hook me up with a waffles invite?!`
`08:05.11`	`Codayus`	`Clique + GridoRA2Layouts = fun for tank healing.`
`08:05.12`	`dispel`	`cause that UI looks real nice.`
`08:05.16`	`nevcairiel`	`waffles? for me too plx`
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`08:05.43`	`Codayus`	`shrug I admit, less of a gain than for raid healing...`
`08:06.17`	`dispel`	`nevcairiel do you use grid?`
`08:06.35`	`Speeddymon`	`whats the channel the cia bot admins reside in?`
`08:06.41`	`nevcairiel`	`no i use sRaidFrames`
`08:06.58`	`dispel`	`hmm`
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`08:07.06`	`nevcairiel`	`and i dont have a 25man screenshot :)`
`08:07.13`	`dispel`	`u got a 10 man?`
`08:07.59`	`Orionshock`	`ckknight: ping`
`08:08.23`	`*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl)`
`08:08.34`	`ckknight`	`Orionshock: pong`
`08:08.37`	`dispel`	`nev if i like your 10 man pic :p can u uplaod your wtf foler and wow addons and give me :p`
`08:09.11`	`Orionshock`	`rockDB... still getting errors... any ideas, plans?`
`08:09.34`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`http://aenslaed.mizery.net/dooms.jpg thats how sraid looks like by default pretty much`
`08:09.34`	`ckknight`	`still?`
`08:09.37`	`ckknight`	`you were getting errors before?`
`08:09.49`	`nevcairiel`	`http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_071607_231646.jpg <- my latest screenshot from raiding .. like 4 month ago`
`08:09.50`	`Orionshock`	`always`
`08:10.09`	`Orionshock`	`LibRockDB-1.0-46782 (LibRockDB-1.0):1362: Cannot access key "player" in db table. You may want to use db.profile["player"]`
`08:10.14`	`Orionshock`	`when copying profiles`
`08:10.24`	`ckknight`	`oh, that`
`08:10.36`	`ckknight`	`okay, I'll look into it soon (within a day)`
`08:10.42`	`Orionshock`	`cool`
`08:10.43`	`Orionshock`	`:D`
`08:10.52`	`dispel`	`nev`
`08:10.58`	`dispel`	`can u upload your addons and wtf folder for me? :D`
`08:11.19`	`CIA-8`	`03jerry * r55411 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_enUS.lua: Talented_Data: update`
`08:12.19`	`nevcairiel`	`dispel: what you see is only sRaidFrames in default layout and agUF in pretty much default layout with some tweaks, thats faster to adjust yourself .. plus i am lazy :)`
`08:13.03`	`Orionshock`	`personaly i use x-perl for raid frames`
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`08:14.46`	`Orionshock`	`http://ace.pastey.net/77599`
`08:14.52`	`Orionshock`	`can anyone make sense of this?`
`08:15.28`	`nevcairiel`	`there is a known issue with ShowUIPanel`
`08:15.34`	`nevcairiel`	`i think slouken was going to fix it`
`08:15.56`	`cladhaire`	`s/was going to fix/has fixed/`
`08:16.00`	`Orionshock`	`is that a valid method?`
`08:16.27`	`Orionshock`	`though one should always call frame:Show() / :Hide() not ShowUIPanel`
`08:16.48`	`nevcairiel`	`has fixed in 2.3.0 or for 2.3.2 ? :)`
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`08:16.57`	`cladhaire`	`nevcairiel: not 2.3.0`
`08:16.58`	`cladhaire`	`:P`
`08:17.12`	`nevcairiel`	`so going to fix in my world :D`
`08:17.28`	`cladhaire`	`not when he's already commited the code`
`08:17.33`	`cladhaire`	`now its up to the patch guy to "fix" it!`
`08:17.40`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
`08:18.58`	`dispel`	`yea but i suck at setting it all nice like yours`
`08:19.06`	`dispel`	`and i really like yours`
`08:20.09`	`NoLife3`	`orion: do i remove the 5 from the sickofclickingdailys text?`
`08:21.10`	`dispel`	`but thats cool if u are to busy to upload it ;(`
`08:21.14`	`Orionshock`	`?`
`08:21.36`	`Orionshock`	`major version 5`
`08:21.39`	`Orionshock`	`oddlyenough`
`08:22.02`	`NoLife3`	`now i have 2 toc files one named SickOfClickingDailys and SickOfClickingDailies5`
`08:22.11`	`Orionshock`	`....`
`08:22.15`	`Orionshock`	`NO no no`
`08:22.18`	`Orionshock`	`2 different mods`
`08:22.33`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:23.05`	`NoLife3`	`ok i deleted the old toc file`
`08:23.13`	`NoLife3`	`gonna try it out`
`08:23.14`	`Orionshock`	`delete the old everything`
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`08:25.05`	`dispel`	`does any one here have a good UI for a healer? if yes please post a screannie :D`
`08:25.37`	`Orionshock`	`dude, sRA / Grid and Clique`
`08:25.53`	`dispel`	`i want one thats nice tho like`
`08:25.56`	`dispel`	`dif bars just i suck at setting em up`
`08:26.14`	`Orionshock`	`....`
`08:26.17`	`Orionshock`	`grid and clique`
`08:26.22`	`Orionshock`	`trust me`
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`08:26.30`	`dispel`	`i dont like cliking like that tho`
`08:26.33`	`dispel`	`i like targeting them`
`08:26.40`	`Orionshock`	`... ok then get bartender`
`08:26.45`	`Orionshock`	`... or even bind pad...`
`08:26.50`	`dispel`	`yea but i suck at making the bars in nice spots`
`08:26.53`	`dispel`	`like with`
`08:26.59`	`dispel`	`http://nevcairiel.net/WoWScrnShot_111807_221421.jpg thats nice`
`08:27.02`	`dispel`	`nevs`
`08:27.19`	`CIA-8`	`03jerry 07jerry * r55412 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: (jerry's branch) merge from trunk`
`08:27.22`	`Orionshock`	`well nevcairiel is crazy`
`08:27.31`	`dispel`	`why`
`08:27.31`	`dispel`	`its nice.`
`08:27.44`	`dispel`	`orion lets see your UI?`
`08:27.52`	`Orionshock`	`hehe u don't want to`
`08:28.06`	`dispel`	`come on`
`08:28.07`	`dispel`	`i might like it`
`08:28.21`	`CIA-8`	`03damjau * r55413 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:`
`08:28.21`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2:`
`08:28.21`	`CIA-8`	`- Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua : update koKR`
`08:28.24`	`Orionshock`	`time to cry`
`08:28.26`	`Orionshock`	`http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102407_053132.jpg`
`08:28.30`	`Orionshock`	`read it and run`
`08:28.34`	`Orionshock`	`... afk`
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`08:28.57`	`dispel`	`thats pretty nice.`
`08:29.10`	`dispel`	`would be bit better if u changed the blue`
`08:29.13`	`dispel`	`to like a light grey?`
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`08:30.07`	`dispel`	`fuck this im gonna get vhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9261.jpg`
`08:32.26`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`08:33.58`	`NoLife3`	`thats mine dispel http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3382/wowscrnshot111907092907sa4.th.jpg`
`08:34.35`	`dispel`	`nolife`
`08:34.37`	`dispel`	`its to small`
`08:34.46`	`NoLife3`	`to small?`
`08:34.52`	`dispel`	`to see`
`08:34.54`	`dispel`	`-_-`
`08:34.57`	`nevcairiel`	`you linked the thumbnail :P`
`08:35.07`	`NoLife3`	`omg`
`08:35.10`	`Nargiddley`	`just take the .th out of the url`
`08:35.28`	`NoLife3`	`http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111907092907sa4.jpg`
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`08:36.46`	`dispel`	`-_-`
`08:36.48`	`dispel`	`i need a healers ui :p`
`08:36.57`	`dispel`	`atm im downloading http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9261.jpg`
`08:37.01`	`NoLife3`	`get caith's UI then`
`08:37.13`	`dispel`	`link me download?`
`08:38.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`that hello kitty ui is frightening.`
`08:39.18`	`NoLife3`	`http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3964/wowscrnshot111807163409wn9.jpg`
`08:39.31`	`dispel`	`Lol its my UI :p`
`08:40.05`	`NoLife3`	`haha`
`08:40.06`	`dispel`	`nolife on that ui`
`08:40.07`	`dispel`	`weres the bars?`
`08:40.30`	`NoLife3`	`you cant see the bars ^_^`
`08:40.42`	`dispel`	`why`
`08:40.44`	`dispel`	`-_-`
`08:40.54`	`NoLife3`	`i mean the bars are there`
`08:41.18`	`dispel`	`can u show me that ui in a raid`
`08:41.18`	`dispel`	`;D`
`08:41.42`	`NoLife3`	`http://i19.tinypic.com/8aevxbn.jpg`
`08:41.52`	`NoLife3`	`another nice healer UI imho`
`08:42.02`	`Kalroth`	`urgh, that font`
`08:42.21`	`NoLife3`	`font is easily replaced`
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`08:42.40`	`dispel`	`were u getting thse screans from?`
`08:42.42`	`Kalroth`	`Well what apart from the font is special? :p`
`08:43.01`	`Kalroth`	`Hej Antiarcy`
`08:43.02`	`dispel`	`thats a nice UI`
`08:43.08`	`dispel`	`nolife whos ui is that`
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`08:43.32`	`NoLife3`	`its from seki on ej forums`
`08:43.39`	`dispel`	`wats ej?`
`08:43.44`	`Kalroth`	`><`
`08:43.48`	`NoLife3`	`.....`
`08:43.55`	`dispel`	`-_--`
`08:44.00`	`dispel`	`tell me`
`08:44.02`	`Diao`	`is that a stretchy grid`
`08:44.05`	`Diao`	`elitistjerks`
`08:44.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`i like that grid layout`
`08:44.18`	`dispel`	`nolife wats link for the forums?`
`08:44.59`	`NoLife3`	`http://elitistjerks.com/f32/`
`08:45.15`	`NoLife3`	`first one i linked is from wowace ui thread`
`08:45.22`	`NoLife3`	`and its a raid screenie`
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`08:46.25`	`NoLife3`	`http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8118/wowscrnshot111507222735cv0.jpg`
`08:46.29`	`NoLife3`	`also very nice`
`08:47.05`	`dispel`	`yea they are nice but i cant download them`
`08:47.05`	`dispel`	`:(`
`08:47.18`	`NoLife3`	`depends which one you want :)`
`08:47.20`	`dispel`	`that last one is very nice`
`08:47.25`	`dispel`	`the one u just linked`
`08:48.15`	`NoLife3`	`its not available for download`
`08:48.19`	`dispel`	`lol.`
`08:48.22`	`dispel`	`what about`
`08:48.40`	`dispel`	`http://i19.tinypic.com/8aevxbn.jpg\`
`08:48.41`	`NoLife3`	`its not hard to replicate it either`
`08:48.58`	`dispel`	`yea i just suck at making the bars etc in nice spots`
`08:49.16`	`NoLife3`	`qouting user: I'll post a download link here when I feel my UI is finished. Give it a week or two, I haven't fully tested it in a 25 man raid and of course I would always like to move stuff around and add/remove mods.`
`08:51.03`	`dispel`	`who said that ;o`
`08:51.05`	`dispel`	`and when did he say it`
`08:51.53`	`NoLife3`	`he is the user of the paladin UI`
`08:51.58`	`NoLife3`	`he said it today`
`08:52.00`	`dispel`	`oh.`
`08:52.06`	`dispel`	`its good just noit that good like`
`08:52.10`	`dispel`	`its got 6 bars on it`
`08:53.02`	`dispel`	`and lets just say i use a little bit more than 6`
`08:53.27`	`dispel`	`uploading mine now`
`08:53.28`	`NoLife3`	`6 bars on top of each other?`
`08:53.45`	`dispel`	`http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4537/wowscrnshot111907185145mb6.jpg`
`08:54.10`	`NoLife3`	`zomg default blizzard bars :\|`
`08:54.47`	`NoLife3`	`ok let me give some suggestions :)`
`08:55.06`	`dispel`	`i wanna use bartender 3 but i cant setup nicely`
`08:55.08`	`NoLife3`	`do you use an all-in-one bag mod?`
`08:55.19`	`dispel`	`all i got is`
`08:55.23`	`dispel`	`grid ct raid deadly boss mod`
`08:55.28`	`dispel`	`and omen`
`08:55.42`	`NoLife3`	`im asking because there is no need to show your 5 bags`
`08:55.49`	`NoLife3`	`if you use an all-in-one`
`08:56.00`	`dispel`	`i dont even open my bags`
`08:56.06`	`dispel`	`i keep everything on my bars`
`08:56.26`	`NoLife3`	`thats ok then hide your bags`
`08:56.32`	`NoLife3`	`start using autobar`
`08:56.48`	`dispel`	`nolife make me a UI :D`
`08:56.56`	`NoLife3`	`hahahaha`
`08:57.11`	`NoLife3`	`its not that hard :)`
`08:57.14`	`evl`	`http://www.internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/surly_ui.jpg less ui is more ui!`
`08:57.37`	`NoLife3`	`you are a rogue :P`
`08:57.40`	`dispel`	`lol.`
`08:57.49`	`dispel`	`can some one make me a UI thats nice?`
`08:58.01`	`Diao`	`make your own!`
`08:58.07`	`NoLife3`	`http://files.filefront.com/BeneaUI23Nov17zip/;9065151;/fileinfo.html`
`08:58.15`	`dispel`	`i cant...`
`08:58.17`	`NoLife3`	`get this package load it up and see how it works out for you`
`08:58.28`	`dispel`	`got a screanshot for it?`
`08:58.32`	`NoLife3`	`i suggest you backup for interface and wtf folders`
`08:58.45`	`dispel`	`can i see a screanshot first?`
`08:58.48`	`NoLife3`	`http://i16.tinypic.com/6olk6zn.jpg`
`08:58.48`	`Diao`	`i like making my own`
`08:59.37`	`dispel`	`wow thats nice`
`08:59.40`	`dispel`	`does it work with 2.3?`
`08:59.52`	`NoLife3`	`well its been updated nov 17th :P`
`08:59.58`	`dispel`	`holy crap`
`08:59.58`	`dispel`	`:p`
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`09:00.11`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ`
`09:00.17`	`NoLife3`	`just use WAU if you need to update omen`
`09:00.20`	`NoLife3`	`or bigwigs`
`09:00.27`	`NoLife3`	`the other addons should not need updating`
`09:00.28`	`dispel`	`bigwigs?`
`09:00.44`	`NoLife3`	`yes bigwigs >3`
`09:01.11`	`Orionshock`	`Cart / Bartender / Bigwigs / oRA2`
`09:01.15`	`dispel`	`wats wau`
`09:02.11`	`NoLife3`	`wowaceupdater=WAU`
`09:02.20`	`NoLife3`	`makes it easier to update ace addons :)`
`09:02.29`	`dispel`	`il just leaev the mods how the guy made em`
`09:02.51`	`NoLife3`	`you can`
`09:05.01`	`dispel`	`the ui didnt work.`
`09:05.28`	`NoLife3`	`did you rename the wtf folder with your account and server name`
`09:05.37`	`dispel`	`sure did`
`09:05.56`	`NoLife3`	`are the addons loading before you log in?`
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`09:06.34`	`dispel`	`i close wow down and put the addons in`
`09:06.38`	`dispel`	`its like the`
`09:06.40`	`dispel`	`wtf folder is wrong`
`09:07.16`	`NoLife3`	`did you save your interface and wtf?`
`09:07.20`	`dispel`	`yes`
`09:07.39`	`NoLife3`	`ok then extract the interface and wtf in the wow dir`
`09:07.49`	`NoLife3`	`rename the wtf folder`
`09:07.54`	`dispel`	`i already did all that`
`09:07.58`	`NoLife3`	`load wow and check that the addons are loading`
`09:09.03`	`dispel`	`done that`
`09:09.07`	`dispel`	`its the guys wtf folder`
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`09:12.01`	`dispel`	`i took screanshot`
`09:12.09`	`NoLife3`	`:\| it has to be for the savedvariables`
`09:12.18`	`dispel`	`http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7998/wowscrnshot111907191151qb6.jpg`
`09:12.34`	`dispel`	`that comes up`
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`09:14.01`	`dispel`	`hmm..`
`09:14.05`	`dispel`	`what should i do`
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`09:15.19`	`Orionshock`	`lrn2Ui?`
`09:16.21`	`dispel`	`wat?`
`09:16.29`	`dispel`	`im gonna try and edit it and make it playable`
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`09:20.35`	`NoLife3`	`erm what res are you using?`
`09:21.51`	`CIA-8`	`03rabbit * r55414 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Hide the flight form and custom named mount/dismount sets as well from the UI.`
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`09:22.38`	`CIA-8`	`03ensabahnur 07orionshock * r55415 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`09:22.38`	`CIA-8`	`Hourglass2:`
`09:22.38`	`CIA-8`	`- Updated deDE localzation`
`09:22.38`	`CIA-8`	`- Synchronized Locale files`
`09:22.53`	`dispel`	`umm`
`09:22.55`	`Orionshock`	`thank`
`09:22.56`	`dispel`	`what should i be usin?`
`09:22.57`	`Orionshock`	`thanks`
`09:24.00`	`dispel`	`it says 1680 x 1050 but it wont let me go that high`
`09:24.03`	`dispel`	`its not there on my settings`
`09:25.48`	`Orionshock`	`get a better video card`
`09:26.09`	`NoLife3`	`if your card doesnt support high resolutions you will not get 1600x1000`
`09:26.21`	`NoLife3`	`settle down for 1280x1024`
`09:26.30`	`NoLife3`	`with a ui scale of 0.64`
`09:27.12`	`NoLife3`	`orion: socd is not loading for some reason`
`09:27.52`	`Orionshock`	`your doing it wrong then :P`
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`09:28.36`	`Orionshock`	`are you downloading the files inividualy off of google?`
`09:28.55`	`Orionshock`	`or are u using an svn client like ur supsed to`
`09:29.32`	`dispel`	`hmm`
`09:29.39`	`dispel`	`nolife it doesnt change like`
`09:29.48`	`dispel`	`the information the guy saved it wrong`
`09:29.53`	`dispel`	`so it doesnt go like how he said it would`
`09:30.31`	`NoLife3`	`i used tortoise orion`
`09:30.47`	`NoLife3`	`placed ace3 and socd in my addons folder`
`09:31.03`	`Orionshock`	`do u have both versions running?`
`09:31.13`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:31.17`	`NoLife3`	`dispel: thats because you are using a different resolution you need to move things around`
`09:31.33`	`NoLife3`	`nil`
`09:32.07`	`NoLife3`	`its not listed under the addons before i log in`
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`09:32.54`	`dispel`	`-_-`
`09:33.03`	`Orionshock`	`....`
`09:33.06`	`*** join/#wowace JP (n=nospam@e180236221.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`09:33.50`	`Orionshock`	`ok...`
`09:34.02`	`Orionshock`	`it's not listed at all under the addons list?`
`09:34.08`	`NoLife3`	`nope`
`09:34.15`	`NoLife3`	`ill get it again`
`09:34.17`	`Orionshock`	`ok nuke it all`
`09:34.26`	`Orionshock`	`and reinstall windows and wow`
`09:34.30`	`Orionshock`	`they try again`
`09:34.34`	`NoLife3`	`hehe :P`
`09:34.50`	`RaydenUni`	`so wtf is with aggro at the opera event?`
`09:34.58`	`dispel`	`i got it almsot nice just grid`
`09:35.01`	`dispel`	`i dont know how to move it`
`09:35.34`	`*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl)`
`09:35.38`	`NoLife3`	`unlock it from the options`
`09:35.45`	`NoLife3`	`then you can drag it`
`09:36.05`	`JP`	`hi ace-people - i'm looking for a mod that allows mit to put items into the trade window/auction window bei alt+clicking them.. (ct_mail did that as a feature, but since bliz changed the mail interface, i don't want ct_mail anymore) any ideas? :)`
`09:36.18`	`Diao`	`altclicktoadditem`
`09:36.28`	`Diao`	`bulkmail also does it`
`09:36.32`	`CIA-8`	`03ammo 07Beta * r55416 10Ace3/docs/AceLocale-3.0.txt:`
`09:36.32`	`CIA-8`	`Ace3 - Docs: one doc a day keeps the doc away :)`
`09:36.32`	`CIA-8`	`- Added AceLocale-3.0 first draft documentation`
`09:36.53`	`dispel`	`i cant find unlock`
`09:36.57`	`NoLife3`	`i use bulkmail works great`
`09:37.09`	`JP`	`Diao: thanks - didn't know the name would be that descriptive :)`
`09:37.12`	`NoLife3`	`type /grid`
`09:37.21`	`NoLife3`	`you will get an array of options a nice menu`
`09:37.24`	`[Ammo]`	`JP: default UI you can now rightclick`
`09:37.31`	`[Ammo]`	`to add to trade window`
`09:37.36`	`dispel`	`i unlocked the frames`
`09:37.37`	`[Ammo]`	`or to mailbox`
`09:37.39`	`dispel`	`just it sitl wont let me drag :S`
`09:38.27`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies5/ => /Addons/SickOfClickingDailies5/`
`09:38.31`	`JP`	`[Ammo]: oh, didn't notice that. maybe i should try to get used to that. tnx`
`09:38.33`	`Orionshock`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Beta => /Addons/Ace3`
`09:38.35`	`Higdur`	`make sure you're dragging the borders, not the boxes`
`09:38.58`	`Higdur`	`dispel:`
`09:39.19`	`JP`	`tnx, and bye everybody :)`
`09:39.26`	`dispel`	`thers no borders`
`09:40.36`	`Higdur`	`might want to increase the border tehn to drag it... don't think you can drag it if you have no border, but don't take my word for it`
`09:41.06`	`dispel`	`i got`
`09:41.11`	`RaydenUni`	`does Julianne randomly aggro?`
`09:41.17`	`RaydenUni`	`i hadn't even cast a spell and she aggro'd on me`
`09:41.21`	`Higdur`	`RaydenUni: yes`
`09:41.27`	`RaydenUni`	`what do you do about it?`
`09:41.29`	`Higdur`	`her bolts are random targeted`
`09:41.33`	`Higdur`	`heal :)`
`09:41.38`	`[Ammo]`	`outheal it`
`09:41.44`	`Gngsk`	`have one healer /assist her and precast`
`09:41.48`	`[Ammo]`	`and put a rogue on her to kick the other ability`
`09:42.05`	`Higdur`	`she melees occasionaly, that's aggrobased, but mostly just random targeted`
`09:42.11`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r55417 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`09:42.11`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`09:42.11`	`CIA-8`	`- ZA update`
`09:42.25`	`Higdur`	`one interrupter to take care of the heals`
`09:42.45`	`NoLife3`	`awesome orion :)`
`09:42.56`	`dispel`	`nolife il uplaod it once im done and u can have a look`
`09:43.00`	`Higdur`	`and a dedicated mage/priest/shaman to take care of her buff`
`09:44.05`	`Fisker-`	`ahahahahahaha`
`09:44.08`	`Fisker-`	`greatest AV ever`
`09:44.15`	`Fisker-`	`alliance didn't cap a single tower or kill galvangar`
`09:44.22`	`Higdur`	`lol`
`09:44.35`	`Orionshock`	`gui looks cool eh?`
`09:44.40`	`Higdur`	`I found the one I did on patchday pretty fun`
`09:44.41`	`NoLife3`	`very nice :)`
`09:44.49`	`Higdur`	`we won with 1 reinforcement left`
`09:44.55`	`Orionshock`	`ya... that gui alone is 2/3rds of teh addon code :P`
`09:44.59`	`Nargiddley`	`got the config sorted then Orionshock ?`
`09:45.10`	`NoLife3`	`options are well defined i like it`
`09:45.13`	`Orionshock`	`ya but there is a problem of placement`
`09:45.34`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know how to fix the bug where it resets to heroic all the time?`
`09:45.42`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: check out the skettis tab and tell me that drop down box dosn't look fooked`
`09:47.42`	`Orionshock`	`http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_111907_024627.jpg`
`09:47.52`	`dispel`	`nolife u wanna see it?`
`09:47.57`	`CIA-8`	`03rabbit * r55418 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Convert to LibSharedMedia-2.0.`
`09:47.57`	`Nargiddley`	`hmm`
`09:48.06`	`NoLife3`	`its the same for me`
`09:48.06`	`CIA-8`	`03jerry * r55419 10RosterLib/Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua: RosterLib: stop filtering out charmed units.`
`09:48.19`	`dispel`	`were he had his moves i couldnt get mine like that`
`09:48.22`	`dispel`	`but i did it the best i could`
`09:48.28`	`dispel`	`http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9161/wowscrnshot111907194755gf9.jpg`
`09:48.56`	`NoLife3`	`thats pretty nice good job`
`09:48.57`	`CIA-8`	`03ammo 07Beta * r55420 10Ace3/docs/AceSerializer-3.0.txt: Ace3 - AceSerializer-3.0: what's up doc?`
`09:49.07`	`NoLife3`	`move the buff/debuffs to the right top`
`09:49.23`	`dispel`	`why right top?`
`09:49.29`	`dispel`	`thats where i keep my chat :p`
`09:49.38`	`NoLife3`	`chat in right top?`
`09:49.57`	`NoLife3`	`orion how do i submit new heroic quests?`
`09:50.05`	`dispel`	`well where it is now`
`09:50.09`	`dispel`	`my cooldown thing goes there`
`09:50.11`	`dispel`	`and i cant move it`
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`09:50.32`	`NoLife3`	`the chat can be moved`
`09:50.38`	`NoLife3`	`right click the tab unlock`
`09:50.47`	`CIA-8`	`03rabbit * r55421 10ClearFont2/Core.lua: ClearFont2: Support LibSharedMedia-2.0.`
`09:50.56`	`dispel`	`i know that`
`09:50.58`	`dispel`	`i mean`
`09:51.01`	`dispel`	`my cooldowns i cant move them`
`09:51.53`	`dispel`	`how do i move my buffs?`
`09:52.17`	`NoLife3`	`wait let me get the package and see what addons are there`
`09:52.45`	`RaydenUni`	`R&J isn't too bad really`
`09:52.48`	`RaydenUni`	`once you interrupt and dispel`
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`09:53.00`	`RaydenUni`	`after R&J is curator?`
`09:53.00`	`Higdur`	`indeed`
`09:53.18`	`Hjalte`	`202 is the spell hit cap for spell casters, yeah?`
`09:53.30`	`Higdur`	`Hjalte: depending on talents`
`09:53.39`	`Hjalte`	`RaydenUni: Some take Nightbane in between`
`09:53.44`	`Higdur`	`but with no talents I think that's correct`
`09:53.53`	`CIA-8`	`03morgalm * r55422 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc):`
`09:53.53`	`CIA-8`	`MorgBid:`
`09:53.53`	`CIA-8`	`- TOC 20300`
`09:54.01`	`NoLife3`	`dont think they can summon nightbane yet`
`09:54.02`	`Higdur`	`RaydenUni: yeah, nightbane can be taken, but I guess you can't summon him yet`
`09:54.07`	`Hjalte`	`Higdur: I'm a warlock, but let's assume i'm not using suppression.`
`09:54.38`	`Higdur`	`that sounds about right, don't remember the exact value as I'm a spriest :)`
`09:54.39`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: make a macro , " /print UnitName("target") /print GetTitleText() " then hit the NPC, go to the quest's first page and click the macro. then PST me with the results`
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`09:54.47`	`dispel`	`i got this thing in the middle of my screan syaing`
`09:54.49`	`dispel`	`player / target`
`09:54.52`	`dispel`	`and it shows my heals :S`
`09:54.52`	`NoLife3`	`dispel: did you read the readme.txt?`
`09:54.56`	`dispel`	`yes`
`09:55.17`	`Hjalte`	`dispel: Disable all addons and it will go away :D`
`09:55.38`	`dispel`	`...`
`09:55.52`	`NoLife3`	`ok its easy to know which addon`
`09:56.15`	`Orionshock`	`dispel: trust me when i say this " you don't belong dong mods like that, whole UI Complilations"`
`09:56.22`	`Orionshock`	`start with some simple mods like bartender`
`09:56.30`	`Orionshock`	`then add in like grid`
`09:56.36`	`Orionshock`	`get familiar with it`
`09:56.41`	`Orionshock`	`cuddle for a while..`
`09:56.45`	`NoLife3`	`i was going to suggest to disable all adons and enable the core ones first`
`09:57.03`	`Higdur`	`Hjalte: yes, the non-talented cap is 202`
`09:57.04`	`NoLife3`	`place them where you want, then check the others if you dont like them delete and add your own`
`09:57.14`	`Orionshock`	`then once you have learned how to futz with it, do more.`
`09:57.17`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`last time i really had to check I disable the top half and went from there disabling half till you got so close it got obvious which it was :)`
`09:57.19`	`CIA-8`	`03bam * r55423 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:`
`09:57.19`	`CIA-8`	`ItemPriceTooltip:`
`09:57.19`	`CIA-8`	`- Updated locale esES (by Osamar)`
`09:57.31`	`NoLife3`	`orion: this mod is lovely`
`09:57.40`	`NoLife3`	`good job on the menu :)`
`09:57.53`	`Orionshock`	`just make sure on the netherwing quests u have the eggs turned off`
`09:58.02`	`NoLife3`	`yeah`
`09:58.08`	`NoLife3`	`there is a new heroic quest`
`09:58.09`	`Orionshock`	`other wise it throws a kiniption fit`
`09:58.29`	`dispel`	`there we go`
`09:58.55`	`Orionshock`	`anyone know if they are going to be adding dailies like in every patch?`
`09:59.04`	`Orionshock`	`or rotating them out?`
`09:59.23`	`RaydenUni`	`man`
`09:59.28`	`RaydenUni`	`we are getting so many caster drops in kz`
`09:59.30`	`RaydenUni`	`i have 5 items now`
`09:59.36`	`RaydenUni`	`after like 4 runs`
`09:59.41`	`Orionshock`	`Nargiddley: what i want to do with it is have`
`09:59.41`	`dispel`	`http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5574/wowscrnshot111907195836kb1.jpg`
`09:59.43`	`dispel`	`there we go`
`09:59.48`	`Provus`	`Does anyone know how to keep ClearFont2 from affecting addons? I tried unchecking 'Apply to All Addons' but it didn't seem to do anything. It's really messing up TrinityBar with distorted numbers.`
`09:59.53`	`Higdur`	`RaydenUni: gz :)`
`09:59.54`	`Orionshock`	`"buttons" on top for like "Faction" / "Instances`
`09:59.59`	`dispel`	`nolife - http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5574/wowscrnshot111907195836kb1.jpg`
`10:00.00`	`Orionshock`	`Pv{`
`10:00.14`	`Orionshock`	`pvp`
`10:00.15`	`RaydenUni`	`and tonight i got a healing robe as well`
`10:00.37`	`Orionshock`	`and an "other" that then change the left hand menu depending on what parent tab acrost the top u selected`
`10:01.00`	`NoLife3`	`much better :)`
`10:01.02`	`Nargiddley`	`you can have some groups showing as tabs`
`10:01.20`	`NoLife3`	`if you want to move the player/target/tot unlock them from pitbull`
`10:01.44`	`Orionshock`	`on top or off to the side?`
`10:01.46`	`Provus`	`Okay let me rephrase my question, I'm looking in the ClearFont2 readme and apparently this setting is for addons that 'directly reference WoW fonts'. How do I directly reference a WoW font so I can go in and apply it to TrinityBars with a simple replace search`
`10:01.49`	`Orionshock`	`and wtf is a tab?`
`10:02.02`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`Is there any way to save the settings you already did on an ace mod if you forgot to set a personal profile? I always lose the settings when I go personal and have to do it all over again`
`10:02.35`	`a-stray-cat`	`save then copy from default?`
`10:02.35`	`NoLife3`	`choose a profile before starting to mess with the settings`
`10:02.57`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`hmm`
`10:03.05`	`NoLife3`	`provus: did you look at mymedia?`
`10:03.05`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock: pick a group in your addon, set childGroups = 'tab', check the config screen again :P`
`10:03.08`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`yeah but I have 8 alts, I tend to forget half the time :p`
`10:03.21`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`I'll try that stray, thanks ^^`
`10:03.58`	`NoLife3`	`provus: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6063.0`
`10:04.04`	`NoLife3`	`get it and read the readme`
`10:04.40`	`Orionshock`	`Nargiddley: wtb docs`
`10:04.42`	`CIA-8`	`03nargiddley 07Beta * r55424 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`10:04.42`	`CIA-8`	`Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Validate .pattern for type='input'`
`10:04.43`	`CIA-8`	`AceGUI: fix flow layout treating the first control as row height instead of the biggest control`
`10:04.45`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock: thats the weird dropdown placement fixed`
`10:04.49`	`Nargiddley`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3`
`10:04.54`	`Provus`	`What's MyMedia do?`
`10:05.14`	`Provus`	`This isn't very descriptive`
`10:05.20`	`RaydenUni`	`can you change the # of categories in arkinventory? i can't find it`
`10:05.51`	`[Ammo]`	`has anyone else without a duocore machine and a shitty graphics card (nvidia 6500) noticed a complete raping of FPS since patch?`
`10:06.05`	`[Ammo]`	`I am at 50% of my pre-2.3 fps`
`10:06.11`	`[Ammo]`	`and I tuned down all graphics to low`
`10:06.17`	`RaydenUni`	`oh i found it`
`10:06.18`	`[Ammo]`	`it's still shite`
`10:06.53`	`Orionshock`	`hey Nargiddley not seeing this "childgroups = "tab" thing work`
`10:07.19`	`Orionshock`	`fk me`
`10:07.19`	`Kalroth`	`I got a dualcore machine and a mediocre graphics card and I notice a complete rape of FPS since patch`
`10:07.19`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`10:07.19`	`NoLife3`	`ammo: yes`
`10:07.19`	`[Ammo]`	`I hate blizzard for it`
`10:07.20`	`Nargiddley`	`has to be a group with child groups`
`10:07.22`	`[Ammo]`	`they made my game unplayable`
`10:07.25`	`NoLife3`	`not just shitty gfx cards`
`10:07.29`	`NoLife3`	`i have a 300 euro card`
`10:07.35`	`Nargiddley`	`pvp dailies would be one to try`
`10:07.39`	`NoLife3`	`my fps dropped like 30fps`
`10:07.40`	`Orionshock`	`childGroups =/= childgroups`
`10:07.51`	`[Ammo]`	`I went from 8-12 fps in a raidfight to 3-4`
`10:07.57`	`Kalroth`	`Hyjal is horrible now`
`10:08.01`	`Provus`	`Okay so this is so I can directly reference a font?`
`10:08.02`	`Orionshock`	`Nargiddley: dear god`
`10:08.06`	`NoLife3`	`i went from 80 in hyjal to 20-30`
`10:08.11`	`Kalroth`	`You have to do /reloadui after 3-4 waves`
`10:08.16`	`Orionshock`	`put that bitch at top level and fwa bam it did what i wanted it to do`
`10:08.18`	`Orionshock`	`....`
`10:08.21`	`NoLife3`	`provus: yes not just font`
`10:08.24`	`Orionshock`	`but it streaches wrong`
`10:08.28`	`CIA-8`	`03arkayenro * r55425 10ArkInventory/ (9 files in 2 dirs):`
`10:08.28`	`CIA-8`	`ArkInventory:`
`10:08.28`	`CIA-8`	`- 2.12c`
`10:08.31`	`Kalroth`	`so I'm guessing it's one or more addons messing the system up`
`10:08.33`	`NoLife3`	`any type of textures etc`
`10:08.40`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock: thats why I suggested it, and yeah if theres too many tabs it sticks out the side still`
`10:08.45`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not my addons`
`10:08.54`	`[Ammo]`	`even without addons my FPS is approximately the same`
`10:09.01`	`Kalroth`	`[Ammo]: I'm not saying it's YOUR addons. :)`
`10:09.02`	`NoLife3`	`kalroth: its probably this gcd shit that they added`
`10:09.08`	`Speeddymon`	`~norgjira`
`10:09.09`	`purl`	`If you need to submit a ticket about auctioneer, head on over to http://jira.norganna.org . You need to log in to make a ticket, but you can just use your forum account.`
`10:09.09`	`Provus`	`Alright. Looking for the default WoW font..`
`10:09.14`	`Speeddymon`	`LOL`
`10:09.15`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm saying _without_ addons it's tjhe same`
`10:09.17`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: do a update on that and take another look after reloading the ui`
`10:09.36`	`NoLife3`	`provus: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9846.0`
`10:09.36`	`Kalroth`	`[Ammo]: You mean without custom addons. There's a ton of Blizzard addons.`
`10:09.54`	`Kalroth`	`And it wouldn't surprise me if one of them are the sinner`
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`10:10.11`	`NoLife3`	`orion: sure give me a minute`
`10:10.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I sure hope not`
`10:10.41`	`Fisker-`	`hai ammo`
`10:10.43`	`Kalroth`	`Although debugging that is going to be hard, unless you can hook the client ondraw procedure from an external application :)`
`10:10.47`	`Provus`	`Okay so it's ARIALN.ttf I want.`
`10:11.01`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, try moving the single option under general up to the root group`
`10:11.18`	`Orionshock`	`hehe`
`10:11.26`	`Orionshock`	`i intend to put profile options there eventual`
`10:11.41`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, more to show what the config can do :D`
`10:11.49`	`Orionshock`	`or beg / plead / blow some dev to give us default db options`
`10:11.56`	`Provus`	`Do I need to extract ARIALN.ttf from the WoW files somehow?`
`10:13.03`	`Orionshock`	`something like, self.db:GetAce3OptionsTable()`
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`10:13.07`	`Provus`	`Oh, there we go`
`10:13.12`	`Kalroth`	`Provus: google for "ARIALN.ttf" and you'll see the source :)`
`10:13.14`	`Provus`	`I just deleted the whole number replacing section of ClearFont2`
`10:13.20`	`Provus`	`That fixed it.`
`10:13.46`	`Provus`	`WoW's numbers are plenty clear for me.`
`10:13.50`	`[Ammo]`	`Orionshock: there will not be default options`
`10:14.01`	`[Ammo]`	`they have caused more problems than they did good in the past`
`10:14.12`	`[Ammo]`	`addons that don't properly disable or are not meant to be disabled etc`
`10:14.20`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:14.29`	`NoLife3`	`check pm orion`
`10:14.33`	`[Ammo]`	`I just explained`
`10:14.39`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`10:14.53`	`Orionshock`	`how bout some default DB options like copy and new profile?`
`10:15.14`	`[Ammo]`	`again, addons need to be written to support that`
`10:15.17`	`Orionshock`	`tbh that's all i give a fk about`
`10:15.20`	`[Ammo]`	`and we'd need localization inside the libs`
`10:15.23`	`[Ammo]`	`just write it yourself`
`10:15.27`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a small table, it's easy`
`10:15.42`	`NeoTron`	`Bloodboil down today. felt good`
`10:15.47`	`[Ammo]`	`and it doesn't bloat the other addons that don't use it`
`10:15.52`	`Orionshock`	`oh yah sure... for you - you know how it works... i have no clue`
`10:16.04`	`[Ammo]`	`I actually haev little knowledge on AceDB3 :)`
`10:16.16`	`[Ammo]`	`I mainly did AceAddon`
`10:16.26`	`Provus`	`Alright, I actually just figured out the problem. Apparently the font number sizes were getting skewed in TrinityBars because ClearFont2 not only changes the font itself but the sizes that they're supposed to be.`
`10:16.31`	`[Ammo]`	`and some slapping around of others to fix the rest of the libs`
`10:16.38`	`Provus`	`Design.lua listed the old default sizes so I just inputted them.`
`10:16.47`	`Provus`	`Fixed everything.`
`10:16.59`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: tbh as well, adding in a new quest takes bout 10 mins each; that and i need to rework the entire fn' tree now :\`
`10:17.10`	`NoLife3`	`provus: that is something to sort out with bigwigs for me`
`10:17.17`	`NoLife3`	`the font is too damn small for some reason`
`10:17.17`	`Grum`	`Is there any addon that allows you to copy any string you see in your interface? (Given its actually text not an image?)`
`10:17.37`	`Provus`	`Like I said, I just went into design.lua and saw this`
`10:17.40`	`[Ammo]`	`Grum: I remember there being something like that`
`10:17.42`	`Provus`	`"Normally uses ARIALN.ttf, size 14/14/12/12/16/30"`
`10:17.46`	`Provus`	`So I changed all the values to those numbers.`
`10:17.46`	`NoLife3`	`orion: did you see the screenshot...the options are off the screen now`
`10:17.53`	`Provus`	`And bam, fixed.`
`10:17.56`	`Grum`	`humz lets look for 'Copy' :D`
`10:18.04`	`Grum`	`oh! CopyThat might do it`
`10:18.23`	`Orionshock`	`NoLife3: ya resize the window to wider, it's a glitch in the GUI lib`
`10:18.25`	`Grum`	`was going to try tourguide .. but it has nothing for the gnome-start-area`
`10:18.50`	`Nargiddley`	`its a known beta issue in the GUI lib :P`
`10:19.04`	`Nargiddley`	`that i've been too lazy to fix so far`
`10:19.15`	`NoLife3`	`aha ok`
`10:19.47`	`Orionshock`	`now that youve given me some doucmentation and that, i get to rework the table to have the "Faction Group" on top and the NPC in the left side click and the npc options to the main`
`10:19.56`	`[Ammo]`	`Grum: I think it does on tekkubs svn`
`10:20.06`	`[Ammo]`	`but maybe you need to add it to the .toc manually`
`10:20.23`	`NoLife3`	`orion: align the start of the escort quest option text under the check of npc enabled?`
`10:20.24`	`Grum`	`oooh`
`10:20.26`	`Grum`	`thanks`
`10:20.28`	`Grum`	`lets look there`
`10:20.33`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, yeah it can end up having a way different structure than most options tables atm`
`10:20.43`	`Orionshock`	`[Ammo]: btw my addon is a bit bloated atm anyways :D`
`10:20.44`	`Nargiddley`	`but worth it for the flexability :D`
`10:20.50`	`[Ammo]`	`Orionshock: rofl`
`10:20.58`	`Orionshock`	`did u see my first one?`
`10:21.03`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`10:21.06`	`[Ammo]`	`I tend to ignore your addons`
`10:21.10`	`Provus`	`Thanks for the help Nolife, it was driving me crazy. Couldn't have figured it out if you hadn't pointed me in the right direction.`
`10:21.16`	`Orionshock`	`it's a single macro wraped in tablet and fubarplugin2`
`10:21.19`	`[Ammo]`	`then again I ignore most addons ;)`
`10:21.49`	`Nargiddley`	`I tend to as well, untill they start doing fun stuff with my lib :D`
`10:21.57`	`NoLife3`	`provus: what line of code was that option?`
`10:22.41`	`Orionshock`	`well the previous version is just fine - it explicity does what i intended it to do, and had No config / no interface , not even a slash command`
`10:22.52`	`Orionshock`	`used it's own stuff - one file ~300 lines`
`10:23.09`	`NoLife3`	`this version is really nice orion :)`
`10:23.20`	`NoLife3`	`having options to choose is how it should be`
`10:23.44`	`Provus`	`NoLife: It's all labeled in Design.lua. Just open it up.`
`10:23.53`	`Provus`	`The mod author did a good job of saying what is what.`
`10:24.00`	`Orionshock`	`and i was sure as hell not going to put this into rock's config, it was a good attempt for ck but it just looks like a uber shittified version of waterfall, so i was waiting for ace3.....`
`10:24.01`	`Grum`	`thanks [Ammo], it has lots of em indeed: http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/`
`10:24.13`	`Provus`	`http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07471/workinprogress.PNG <-- My WIP interface.`
`10:24.35`	`NeoTron`	`highlight of the night: a shadow bolt crit on bloodboil, with fel rage, of almost 32k`
`10:25.07`	`Provus`	`Dangit`
`10:25.08`	`Orionshock`	`oh btw Nargiddley i switched around some of the api, no more special handling for quests with rewards other than money`
`10:25.16`	`Provus`	`Apparently I entered 'Durotar' right as I was taking the screenshot`
`10:25.23`	`Provus`	`So there's a big ogly 'Durotar' on the center of my screen`
`10:25.59`	`Provus`	`Speaking of which, does anyone know how to move that particular screen element?`
`10:26.03`	`Orionshock`	`so now it's completely extendable to just about anything that blizzard can throw at me !`
`10:26.13`	`Provus`	`Where it's supposed to be got a little skewed with my viewport`
`10:26.21`	`NoLife3`	`that does not solve my bigwigs problem :\`
`10:26.55`	`[Ammo]`	`what bigwigs problem?`
`10:27.07`	`NoLife3`	`the warnings text is too small`
`10:27.19`	`[Ammo]`	`scale it`
`10:27.24`	`[Ammo]`	`or send it to another output`
`10:27.28`	`NoLife3`	`i did still the same`
`10:27.33`	`[Ammo]`	`what output is it at`
`10:27.40`	`NoLife3`	`if i change to bigwigs output its fine`
`10:27.50`	`[Ammo]`	`ok then what's the issue?`
`10:27.57`	`NoLife3`	`but if i use raid warning output the font is too small`
`10:28.03`	`NoLife3`	`it was not like this before`
`10:28.12`	`[Ammo]`	`so your raid warning frame is fucked?`
`10:28.26`	`NoLife3`	`i use bignoodletilting as a main font`
`10:28.28`	`NoLife3`	`indeed`
`10:30.06`	`Provus`	`Doesn't sound like that's a font problem if it refuses to scale.`
`10:30.23`	`Provus`	`Does it still do it when you have ClearFont2 off (assuming that's what you're using)`
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`10:33.53`	`Orionshock`	`Nargiddley: you might want to update that wiki page you gave me, the info table's list part gives the key value of the object not the 'name = "" ' field`
`10:34.04`	`NoLife3`	`provus: its not a clearfont problem`
`10:34.17`	`NoLife3`	`because i did try with all addons disabled cept bigwigs`
`10:34.43`	`NoLife3`	`ammo: just disabled all addons, still getting 30fps in hyjal`
`10:34.56`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, thats correct`
`10:34.58`	`[Ammo]`	`like I said, it's not addons it's something they changed in the graphics engine`
`10:35.22`	`NoLife3`	`i think its more to the gcd related issue`
`10:35.29`	`NoLife3`	`server response and stuff`
`10:35.49`	`Orionshock`	`framerate and lag have nearly nothing to do with each other`
`10:35.51`	`CIA-8`	`03kunda * r55426 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:`
`10:35.51`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2:`
`10:35.51`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-Tradeskill-2.2:`
`10:35.51`	`CIA-8`	`- removed double entry 'Thick Draenic Pants' and 'Shoulders of Lightning Reflexes' (both Leatherworking Recipes) for all locals`
`10:35.51`	`CIA-8`	`- deDE: added Engineering Recipes and Beast Training Skills`
`10:35.53`	`CIA-8`	`- deDE: Leatherworking, Alchemy and Jewelcrafting Recipes updated and cleanup`
`10:36.01`	`Orionshock`	`if you framerate is shitting up then you need to update your computer`
`10:36.01`	`Nargiddley`	`Orionshock, By name that means the key i think`
`10:36.24`	`NoLife3`	`orion: i have a dual-core and geforce gtx :P`
`10:36.30`	`NoLife3`	`this was not the case before 2.3`
`10:36.35`	`Orionshock`	`defrag your computer`
`10:36.43`	`Orionshock`	`then update video drivers`
`10:36.59`	`Orionshock`	`if it was a client -> server comm issue then we'd all have it`
`10:37.07`	`Orionshock`	`and im still pulling 70fps in raid`
`10:37.09`	`NoLife3`	`sigh other ppl have some issues`
`10:37.19`	`NoLife3`	`its not just me or ammo`
`10:37.53`	`Orionshock`	`well do the obvious things first`
`10:37.55`	`Orionshock`	`...`
`10:38.18`	`Orionshock`	`ok im going to bed - i'll do this tommarow ( talk to people bout how their computer is fk'ed) at work.. :\`
`10:39.37`	`NoLife3`	`im going for lunch`
`10:41.15`	`Kalroth`	`We also got a few select people that can't login after they disconnect, they have to wait until their character is truely offline and only then they can log in if their character isn't in the raid`
`10:41.43`	`Kalroth`	`And no, it isn't some addon, they removed all addons and still had problems logging in`
`10:41.57`	`Codayus`	`Kalroth: If it's the same bug I've seen a few times cropping up again, try moving them to an empty raid group.`
`10:42.23`	`Kalroth`	`Codayus: First thing we did, we had the popular agUF bug back in SSC :)`
`10:42.25`	`Codayus`	`That's sometimes helped in previous patches. (Of course, it could be something completely new.)`
`10:42.28`	`Codayus`	`Ah`
`10:42.30`	`Codayus`	`QQ`
`10:42.36`	`Kalroth`	`But it'd only work if we kicked them from raid this time`
`10:43.00`	`Codayus`	`Find out how to work around a bug? No matter, the world will invent a better bug.`
`10:43.25`	`Kalroth`	`They didn't clean WTF folder though, so it might have been funky savedvariables, but I doubt it`
`10:43.35`	`Kalroth`	`had 3 people with the issue`
`10:43.54`	`Codayus`	`I've seen Bliz GMs now advocate deleting cache, wtf, interface, and emptying recycle bin as a way to fix bugs lately.`
`10:44.12`	`Kalroth`	`lol`
`10:44.27`	`Codayus`	`I have to admit, I'm at a loss as to what bug would be solved by emptying a recycle bin. oO`
`10:46.29`	`dispel`	`w00t`
`10:46.33`	`dispel`	`my guild just cleared hyjal!`
`10:47.25`	`Kalroth`	`grats :)`
`10:47.35`	`dispel`	`just rest of bt now :D`
`10:47.43`	`dispel`	`downed 3 bosses this week :D`
`10:48.17`	`Kalroth`	`how long did you work on Archimonde?`
`10:48.53`	`dispel`	`um`
`10:49.05`	`dispel`	`this week?`
`10:49.10`	`dispel`	`i think`
`10:49.12`	`Kalroth`	`in total :)`
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`10:49.20`	`dispel`	`yea we only tryed him this week`
`10:49.23`	`dispel`	`and we downed him tonight`
`10:49.28`	`Kalroth`	`Oh okay`
`10:49.35`	`Kalroth`	`Enough shamans then? :p`
`10:49.39`	`dispel`	`Lol`
`10:50.01`	`dispel`	`4/9 bt ;(`
`10:50.12`	`Kalroth`	`Two fun bosses to go!`
`10:50.19`	`Kalroth`	`Bloodboil and RoS!`
`10:50.20`	`dispel`	`lol`
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`10:51.06`	`mort`	`bloodboil is fun :)`
`10:51.14`	`Kalroth`	`Our healers hate him ;)`
`10:51.45`	`Kalroth`	`He's the Patchwerk of BT`
`10:52.34`	`a-stray-cat`	`someone help me with this. i have a self:Print(group, type(group), group.colors); and it comes out to be "test", "string", nil`
`10:52.43`	`a-stray-cat`	`how does group.colors not error out on me?`
`10:52.57`	`a-stray-cat`	`im so confused ><`
`10:53.21`	`a-stray-cat`	`doing /run local s = "test"; s.t = 1; errors out on trying to index a string value`
`10:53.24`	`dispel`	`Lol`
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`10:54.16`	`a-stray-cat`	`oh`
`10:54.17`	`a-stray-cat`	`i see`
`10:54.26`	`a-stray-cat`	`nevermind. trying to index works fine as long as there's no assignment`
`10:54.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`just comes up nil`
`10:54.34`	`a-stray-cat`	`wtfbbqness`
`10:54.35`	`Xinhuan`	`because s is a string, not a table`
`10:54.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`i know that`
`10:55.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`i expected it error out when i try to do s.t at all`
`10:55.32`	`a-stray-cat`	`but if i do /run local s = "test"; if not s.t then self:Print("hi"); end it prints hi`
`10:55.44`	`a-stray-cat`	`which is totally unexpected for me :/`
`10:56.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua > local s = "test"; if not s.t then print("hi"); end`
`10:56.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`how do you work that lua bot :X`
`10:56.56`	`Grum`	`lua> local s = "test"; if not s.t then print("hi"); end`
`10:56.56`	`lua_bot`	`Grum: hi`
`10:57.13`	`Kalroth`	`hi Grum!`
`10:57.30`	`a-stray-cat`	`why does it just return nil and not error o_O`
`10:58.47`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua> local s = "test"; print(s[1]);`
`10:58.48`	`lua_bot`	`a-stray-cat: nil`
`10:59.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua> local v = 20; print(v[1]);`
`10:59.14`	`lua_bot`	`a-stray-cat: [string "local v = 20; print(v[1]);"]:1: attempt to index local 'v' (a number value)`
`10:59.34`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua> local s = "test"; s[1] = "v";`
`10:59.34`	`lua_bot`	`a-stray-cat: [string "local s = "test"; s[1] = "v";"]:1: attempt to index local 's' (a string value)`
`10:59.48`	`a-stray-cat`	`whatever, good to know`
`11:01.02`	`Olison`	`on lua_bot, how does that name feature work?`
`11:01.12`	`Olison`	`name-creating... i don't know`
`11:02.10`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua bot is kinda cool`
`11:02.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`where can i get one`
`11:04.15`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua> local s, t, v = 1, 2, 3; print(s and t or v);`
`11:04.16`	`lua_bot`	`a-stray-cat: 2`
`11:04.46`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> local s = "test"; print(type(s.format))`
`11:04.46`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: function`
`11:05.01`	`Xinhuan`	`all strings have a metatable lookup`
`11:05.03`	`Xinhuan`	`for string functions`
`11:05.25`	`Xinhuan`	`hence (not s.t) doesn't error`
`11:05.40`	`a-stray-cat`	`oh`
`11:05.48`	`Xinhuan`	`but the metatable returns a "index string error" otherwise`
`11:06.23`	`a-stray-cat`	`i had no idea ;<`
`11:06.43`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> s = "test"; print(s:sub(1, 2))`
`11:06.43`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: te`
`11:07.01`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> s = "test"; print(s.sub(s, 1, 2))`
`11:07.02`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: te`
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`11:07.03`	`Xinhuan`	`see?`
`11:07.10`	`a-stray-cat`	`ahh`
`11:07.30`	`a-stray-cat`	`so all the string functions can be called stringvar:func()?`
`11:07.34`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`11:07.44`	`Xinhuan`	`you may need a () around a string literal`
`11:08.02`	`a-stray-cat`	`lua> ("test"):sub(1,2);`
`11:08.02`	`lua_bot`	`a-stray-cat: te,`
`11:08.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`very cool.`
`11:09.12`	`CIA-8`	`03trasher * r55427 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua:`
`11:09.12`	`CIA-8`	`ClosetGnome_Mount:`
`11:09.12`	`CIA-8`	`- little french update`
`11:09.50`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel 07Beta * r55428 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua docs/AceDB-3.0.txt): Ace3 - add AceDB docs, still needs docs for the defaults format`
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`11:11.21`	`Morodan`	`lua bot?`
`11:11.31`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> hi Morodan`
`11:11.31`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "hi Morodan"]:1: '=' expected near 'Morodan'`
`11:11.36`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> "hi Morodan"`
`11:11.36`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: hi Morodan`
`11:11.58`	`Morodan`	`lua> "\124cffff8000hi"`
`11:11.58`	`lua_bot`	`Morodan: \|cffff8000hi`
`11:12.07`	`Morodan`	`feh it doesnt output color`
`11:12.13`	`nevcairiel`	`the color codes are wow specific`
`11:12.20`	`Xinhuan`	`cos IRC doesn't use color codes in that manner`
`11:12.26`	`Morodan`	`well this should be a wow lua bot`
`11:12.36`	`Xinhuan`	`no its a general lua bot in multiple channels`
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`11:12.42`	`Morodan`	`heh`
`11:12.55`	`Xinhuan`	`including #lua`
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`11:13.55`	`Morodan`	`lua> 7*191`
`11:13.55`	`lua_bot`	`Morodan: 1337`
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`11:15.28`	`CIA-8`	`03celellach * r55429 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`11:15.28`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`11:15.28`	`CIA-8`	`- Cosmetic changes`
`11:17.35`	`CIA-8`	`03ammo * r55430 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: Solarian frFR corrections`
`11:20.39`	`silentium`	`lua> "\0034hi"`
`11:20.39`	`lua_bot`	`silentium: 4hi`
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`11:27.47`	`CIA-8`	`03sorren * r55431 10SorrenTimers/ (Localization.lua SorrenTimers.lua options.lua):`
`11:27.47`	`CIA-8`	`SorrenTimers:`
`11:27.47`	`CIA-8`	`- Fixed a longstanding bug where group options for self-buffs weren't obeyed (no one's ever reported this though? No one uses this feature I guess? QQ)`
`11:27.47`	`CIA-8`	`- Added scaling options (the bones were all there, I thought I had added this a long time ago)`
`11:28.06`	`Xinhuan`	`/chuckle`
`11:28.26`	`a-stray-cat`	`seriously, that bugs been there since i first wrote it a year ago`
`11:28.41`	`a-stray-cat`	`i didnt even notice it until i saw that it was passing a string`
`11:28.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`its not a feature i use at least, but was requested by other people :X`
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`11:30.35`	`CIA-8`	`03celellach * r55432 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files):`
`11:30.35`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`11:30.35`	`CIA-8`	`- Cosmetic changes`
`11:34.14`	`dispel`	`zomfg`
`11:34.20`	`dispel`	`flasks are like 45g on my realm`
`11:34.25`	`dispel`	`and i just brought 7`
`11:34.27`	`a-stray-cat`	`is that...bad?`
`11:34.36`	`dispel`	`yes`
`11:34.36`	`a-stray-cat`	`i steal all my flasks from the guild bank :X`
`11:34.43`	`dispel`	`sif`
`11:34.46`	`dispel`	`im a holy priest`
`11:34.50`	`dispel`	`my guild aspects me to farm`
`11:34.51`	`dispel`	`for my self`
`11:34.52`	`dispel`	`-__-`
`11:34.56`	`dispel`	`unless some times`
`11:34.57`	`nevcairiel`	`fel lotus alone are like 40g on my realm`
`11:35.00`	`a-stray-cat`	`im a hunter, i still steal flasks :P`
`11:35.03`	`nevcairiel`	`45g for a flask is good`
`11:35.07`	`dispel`	`the guild bank buys us all flasks food buffs oils and stuff`
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`11:35.11`	`dispel`	`for some fights`
`11:35.15`	`dispel`	`cause the bank has 20k gold`
`11:35.16`	`a-stray-cat`	`i dont steal flasks as much as tokens to buy flasks with though`
`11:35.30`	`dispel`	`on my old realm flasks were 25g`
`11:35.31`	`dispel`	`-__-`
`11:35.41`	`nevcairiel`	`shouldve brought some with you :P`
`11:35.51`	`dispel`	`i know`
`11:35.52`	`dispel`	`;(`
`11:36.51`	`dispel`	`im gonna go try nd farm primals lo!L`
`11:38.48`	`a-stray-cat`	`too bad you're not an engineer`
`11:44.08`	`CIA-8`	`03ananhaid * r55433 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua:`
`11:44.08`	`CIA-8`	`BigWigs:`
`11:44.08`	`CIA-8`	`- zhCN update`
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`11:48.44`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r715 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/56_Silithus.lua: TourGuide - Alliance Silithus updates after some play-testing`
`11:50.50`	`CIA-8`	`03celellach * r55434 10AtlasLoot/Core/Atlas1.10.3compat.lua:`
`11:50.50`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`11:50.50`	`CIA-8`	`- Corrected more maps to fit Atlas 1.10.3`
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`11:52.46`	`CIA-8`	`03mcc * r55435 10AutoProfitX/Locale-zhTW.lua:`
`11:52.46`	`CIA-8`	`AutoProfitX:`
`11:52.46`	`CIA-8`	`- update zhTW locale`
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`11:57.56`	`CIA-8`	`03saroz * r55436 10Aurora/Aurora.lua: Aurora: Fix typo`
`12:01.49`	`dispel`	`i got gkciked zzzzzzz....`
`12:02.29`	`thul`	`that is beacause you don't dps like I do.`
`12:02.40`	`dispel`	`thats cause im a healer`
`12:03.08`	`thul`	`pfft`
`12:03.13`	`thul`	`I can bandage AND dps`
`12:03.14`	`thul`	`beat that :-P`
`12:03.25`	`a-stray-cat`	`i can bandage, afk, AND dps`
`12:03.29`	`JoshBorke`	`i can heal AND dps :-P`
`12:03.55`	`dispel`	`...`
`12:04.00`	`dispel`	`i dont even know why i got fkin gkicked`
`12:04.03`	`dispel`	`no one wil tell me`
`12:04.25`	`JoshBorke`	`you didn't bring home the backon`
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`12:05.20`	`dispel`	`now that is fkin BS`
`12:05.24`	`Lothaer`	`sp what do u guys think about Ace mods now being wunced on incgamers?`
`12:05.33`	`thul`	`dispel: so.. raid attendance?`
`12:05.39`	`Lothaer`	`synced*`
`12:05.44`	`dispel`	`no couldnt be that`
`12:05.49`	`dispel`	`they wouldnt take me to there raids`
`12:05.53`	`dispel`	`well there bt hyjal ones`
`12:05.58`	`thul`	`well.. that might be the problem? :-P`
`12:06.05`	`dispel`	`no`
`12:06.07`	`dispel`	`"core raiders" only`
`12:06.09`	`dispel`	`could go`
`12:06.24`	`dispel`	`atleas on my ap for a new guold i can say`
`12:06.28`	`dispel`	`was in 2nd best guild on sever`
`12:06.59`	`thul`	`well, I rock.`
`12:07.10`	`dispel`	`so mad.`
`12:07.48`	`thul`	`well, if you are well geared, find another guild :-)`
`12:08.12`	`dispel`	`kinda well geared`
`12:08.18`	`dispel`	`no ssc / the eye gear but good geared`
`12:08.21`	`dispel`	`1800 healing`
`12:08.26`	`dispel`	`179 mp5 while casting`
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`12:10.53`	`WillJitsu`	`can someone tell me what the Cartographer1 addon does exactly?`
`12:11.03`	`aestil`	`uses ace3`
`12:11.05`	`aestil`	`ace2`
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`12:12.58`	`dispel`	`any one here play on frostmourne horde?`
`12:13.01`	`dispel`	`i need a guild -_-`
`12:13.14`	`WillJitsu`	`aestil: what does the regular cartographer use?`
`12:13.33`	`aestil`	`a different, newer framework called Rock`
`12:13.47`	`WillJitsu`	`aestil: so which one is better to use?`
`12:14.12`	`aestil`	`thats been hotly contested, but generally speaking the regular one.`
`12:14.45`	`aestil`	`people using Cart1, do so for mainly politically motivated reasons. I use regular cartographer.`
`12:15.04`	`WillJitsu`	`do you know if there are any known issues with the battleground minimap and the colored raidpins? mine seems to be displaying white and flickering ever so slightly instead of showing class colors`
`12:15.22`	`CIA-8`	`03gamefaq * r55437 10EQCompare/ (EQCompare.lua localization.de.lua): EQCompare: deDE Update`
`12:15.31`	`aestil`	`I don't know of any issues. I havn't gone into a BG for a few months.`
`12:15.48`	`aestil`	`everyone that could answer that question though is likely sleeping right now. ask a few hours from now.`
`12:16.15`	`WillJitsu`	`ok I'll do that. thanks :)`
`12:16.34`	`CIA-8`	`03mcc * r55438 10AutoProfitX/AutoProfitX.toc:`
`12:16.34`	`CIA-8`	`AutoProfitX:`
`12:16.34`	`CIA-8`	`- add zhTW locale`
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`12:19.11`	`thul`	`dispel: nothing compared to my 1500 ap and 30% crit :-P`
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`12:29.16`	`dispel`	`lawl`
`12:29.20`	`dispel`	`crit means nothing with no hit`
`12:29.55`	`thul`	`pfft, I have hit too :-P`
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`12:32.52`	`thul`	`I'm off daggers, so have to get two swords.`
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`12:51.15`	`kaiden`	`So quick question, say i have a variable that adds color all the variable is is a color code.. and say i have a format() how would i go about colorizing specific parts of the format with the colors?`
`12:53.11`	`JoshBorke`	`"blah blah \|c"..<color stuff>.."more text\|r"`
`12:53.38`	`kaiden`	`meh i was just making it too complex i was trying to add the variables that had the colors to the message`
`12:53.45`	`kaiden`	`decided to just copy / paste`
`12:53.46`	`kaiden`	`much easier`
`12:53.47`	`kaiden`	`:)`
`12:56.22`	`CIA-8`	`03sayclub * r55440 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Gas-2.2/Babble-Gas-2.2.lua:`
`12:56.22`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2:`
`12:56.22`	`CIA-8`	`- update koKR localization`
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`12:57.00`	`Grum`	`Does anyone know of any addon that allows you to describe a boss fight in a visual manner?`
`12:57.44`	`Diao`	`a visual manner?`
`12:57.57`	`[Ammo]`	`you mean like a whiteboard?`
`12:58.02`	`Diao`	`you mean like positions and stuff, or like converting the combat log into graphs?`
`12:58.38`	`Grum`	`just something you can 'script' yourself`
`12:58.39`	`[Ammo]`	`there was one being dev'd`
`12:58.44`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`12:58.44`	`Grum`	`to explain how a fight will look`
`12:58.51`	`[Ammo]`	`well there is WhiteboardNG`
`12:58.54`	`[Ammo]`	`get everyone to install it`
`12:58.57`	`[Ammo]`	`and you can draw lines`
`12:59.03`	`[Ammo]`	`and everyone will show your pictures`
`12:59.07`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure if that's what you want`
`12:59.11`	`[Ammo]`	`there was another one`
`12:59.20`	`[Ammo]`	`the other option is Paint and lots of uploading to guild forum`
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`13:00.26`	`Grum`	`grin`
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`13:01.57`	`[Ammo]`	`or you could modify GruulMap to do what you want`
`13:01.58`	`Superfly_`	`hey`
`13:02.02`	`[Ammo]`	`dunno the quality of that addon`
`13:02.12`	`Grum`	`oe! http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2536/`
`13:03.37`	`Grum`	`spiffy :D`
`13:03.43`	`[Ammo]`	`ancient :p`
`13:03.56`	`Grum`	`true :D`
`13:04.05`	`Grum`	`i cant find GruulMap`
`13:04.10`	`[Ammo]`	`it's on wowacesn`
`13:04.36`	`[Ammo]`	`this is one pro picture from our strategy discussions: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7927/archimondiedx2.jpg`
`13:05.11`	`Grum`	`hahaha`
`13:05.20`	`Superfly_`	`did i miss anything? ag_unitframes isnt working`
`13:05.26`	`[Ammo]`	`it works ifne?`
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`13:05.58`	`Superfly_`	`shall I try to reinstall?`
`13:06.06`	`[Ammo]`	`dunno`
`13:06.09`	`[Ammo]`	`what error do you get`
`13:06.29`	`Superfly_`	`well basically, i can see the ag_unitframes button on the fubar`
`13:06.37`	`Superfly_`	`so im sure its loadeded, but no target frame`
`13:06.40`	`Superfly_`	`no playerframe at all`
`13:07.24`	`Superfly_`	`and in the config, i cannot change anything except those config params for the small icon(on the fubar panel)`
`13:07.25`	`[Ammo]`	`Grum: but this is a much better one that actually got us the kill: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3860/archdoomfirepositionws9.jpg`
`13:07.49`	`Grum`	`that is very far zoomed out`
`13:07.53`	`Grum`	`how did you get it that far?`
`13:08.07`	`[Ammo]`	`you can set the zoom thing in the .wtf to 5 or 6`
`13:08.11`	`[Ammo]`	`it's 4 by default`
`13:08.16`	`Grum`	`mmkk`
`13:08.36`	`[Ammo]`	`but that picture is a lot better than the paint garble :)`
`13:08.37`	`Grum`	`i dont see it O.o`
`13:08.47`	`[Ammo]`	`it should be there, can't remember name`
`13:08.49`	`Grum`	`do you know the full option name?`
`13:08.49`	`[Ammo]`	`I didn't make the picture`
`13:10.27`	`Grum`	`http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3108 seems to do it`
`13:10.37`	`Grum`	`and it seems blizz changed the way it worked in 2.3`
`13:10.41`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't visit that site by principle :)`
`13:11.24`	`[Ammo]`	`./console set cameraDistanceMaxFactor 4`
`13:11.28`	`[Ammo]`	`you can set it to 5 or 6`
`13:12.59`	`Grum`	`me neither, google made me do it`
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`13:20.41`	`Diao`	`i use doodle personally`
`13:20.54`	`[Ammo]`	`oh yeah doodle`
`13:21.24`	`balstor`	`anyone understand omen very well?`
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`13:21.57`	`kenlyric`	`http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Strike-Chart-Long/800026937 your favorite tv shows, find them and weep!`
`13:22.01`	`nevcairiel`	`wtf is doodle?`
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`13:22.10`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a whiteboard kinda addon`
`13:22.13`	`[Ammo]`	`where you can 'doodle'`
`13:23.13`	`nevcairiel`	`and why was my camera thing set to 2`
`13:23.16`	`Xinhuan`	`HOLY SHIT, ARCHIMONDE DOWN!!!!`
`13:23.21`	`Xinhuan`	`and i win T6 helm :)`
`13:23.36`	`Diao`	`grats Xinhuan`
`13:23.37`	`nevcairiel`	`second person to yell that in the last 24 hours`
`13:23.41`	`Diao`	`guild first?`
`13:23.42`	`[Ammo]`	`<-- first`
`13:23.51`	`Xinhuan`	`yes guild first lol`
`13:23.54`	`Diao`	`nice`
`13:23.59`	`[Ammo]`	`we had our guild first last night`
`13:24.06`	`Xinhuan`	`now ammo, can i convince you to remove the bar timer for Grip of the Legion on Archimonde?`
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`13:24.12`	`Xinhuan`	`kinda useless considering it gets decursed`
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`13:24.22`	`[Ammo]`	`it's there to assist decursing`
`13:24.23`	`Xinhuan`	`or at least remove the bar on decurse`
`13:24.26`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe the decurse should cancel the bar`
`13:24.34`	`Diao`	`my healers turned retarded this week cause my 2 best healers weren't around for our first raid on solarian`
`13:24.42`	`Xinhuan`	`yes, can you do that change?`
`13:24.42`	`Diao`	`they couldn't keep our aoe alive on the adds :(`
`13:24.50`	`Xinhuan`	`remove bar on decurse`
`13:25.04`	`[Ammo]`	`I can try`
`13:25.15`	`Xinhuan`	`had like 3 of those bars on the screen at the same time, and yet none of them were cursed`
`13:25.21`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah I know`
`13:25.22`	`balstor`	`how can anyone be an idiot on solarian, if you get the debuff run fight?`
`13:25.22`	`Superfly_`	`okay, ag_unitframes back again, dont know what was wrong`
`13:25.23`	`[Ammo]`	`noticed that myself`
`13:25.35`	`Diao`	`no not that balstor`
`13:25.40`	`Diao`	`when she disappears and adds spawn`
`13:25.43`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:26.02`	`Diao`	`we always lose at least one of our mages`
`13:26.04`	`Diao`	`each time :(`
`13:26.13`	`Diao`	`well first try was this week but`
`13:26.14`	`balstor`	`wow`
`13:26.19`	`Xinhuan`	`(i'm a mage btw :) )`
`13:26.21`	`Diao`	`every attempt at least one died`
`13:26.24`	`nevcairiel`	`mm`
`13:26.38`	`[Ammo]`	`lose mages?`
`13:26.40`	`Xinhuan`	`do you have a prot pally`
`13:26.40`	`nevcairiel`	`those bars are kinda pointless ihmo ammo`
`13:26.42`	`[Ammo]`	`bring more warlocks :p`
`13:26.51`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: well they are not if they get removed`
`13:26.54`	`Diao`	`uhh`
`13:26.59`	`Xinhuan`	`they just consecrate and every mob sticks to them`
`13:27.01`	`Diao`	`we have one but she's someone's alt`
`13:27.02`	`[Ammo]`	`remove on decurse is fine with me`
`13:27.05`	`Diao`	`and it's badly geared`
`13:27.07`	`Diao`	`like.. dungeon blues`
`13:27.08`	`balstor`	`the current version of solarian is a medium difficulty fight (csn't say we haven't short bussed it a few times though)`
`13:27.10`	`nevcairiel`	`decurses should have the curses on raid frames anyway`
`13:27.19`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: I know`
`13:27.24`	`[Ammo]`	`but it assists me yelling at em`
`13:27.25`	`[Ammo]`	`:p`
`13:27.36`	`nevcairiel`	`an announce is fine, "hey that guy has curse", but a bar .. oh well, i can toggle it off`
`13:27.56`	`Xinhuan`	`that's what i'm suggesting :)`
`13:28.22`	`Diao`	`i was thinking maybe if i just get one of our holy paladins to wear their arena gear for resil and have impRF then heal themselves`
`13:28.26`	`balstor`	`btw latest PSP release : Warhammer 40,000: Squad Command : I need to go buy a PSP now`
`13:28.30`	`Diao`	`instead of having to bring a badly geared prot pally`
`13:28.44`	`[Ammo]`	`Diao: we used an aoe taunt rotation`
`13:28.50`	`Diao`	`we tried that`
`13:28.55`	`Diao`	`had 3 warrs and a feral druid`
`13:28.58`	`Xinhuan`	`our prot pally owns`
`13:29.01`	`Diao`	`6 sec of taunt isn't long enough apparently`
`13:29.03`	`[Ammo]`	`prot pally owns hard`
`13:29.08`	`Diao`	`for our mages/locks to dps them down`
`13:29.10`	`Xinhuan`	`we simply do Hyjal with our prot pally and our warr MT, no other tanks needed`
`13:29.23`	`Diao`	`what does the prot pally do when not tanking o_O`
`13:29.30`	`Diao`	`offheal?`
`13:29.31`	`Xinhuan`	`he swaps into heal gear`
`13:29.33`	`Xinhuan`	`and heal`
`13:29.37`	`Diao`	`ergh`
`13:29.38`	`nevcairiel`	`oh and btw, on zul aman akilzon module .. it pings your location when you get the storm .. imho thats too much into tactics`
`13:29.53`	`Xinhuan`	`but in hyjal, the 2nd and 4th boss require an offtank anyway`
`13:30.13`	`Diao`	`i don't want to spend a couple months in kara gearing up a prot pally in both tanking and healing gear`
`13:30.16`	`[Ammo]`	`our prot pally goes pew pew dps :p`
`13:30.18`	`Diao`	`:(`
`13:30.32`	`[Ammo]`	`and only heals when needed`
`13:30.37`	`Xinhuan`	`so a ret pally was so keen to get his inscribed pyrestones`
`13:30.37`	`nevcairiel`	`we just remove all tanks from the raid for achimonde, except warr mt :P`
`13:30.37`	`evl`	`Easy to gear up`
`13:30.41`	`Xinhuan`	`that he flew to me in tanaris`
`13:30.45`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: we don't`
`13:30.46`	`evl`	`drag a pala through ZA a few times`
`13:30.48`	`Xinhuan`	`to getit cut`
`13:30.48`	`[Ammo]`	`melee owns archi hardstyle`
`13:30.49`	`evl`	`he should have pretty good dear :P`
`13:30.54`	`nevcairiel`	`but not tanks`
`13:30.55`	`Diao`	`uh`
`13:30.55`	`sb`	`balstor: lol? even void reaver is harder than solarian now...`
`13:31.01`	`Diao`	`we can't "drag" anyone through za`
`13:31.02`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: 2 ferals -> kitty dps`
`13:31.07`	`[Ammo]`	`we only have one prot tank in there anyway`
`13:31.09`	`Diao`	`we only just now downed bear/eagle/lynx`
`13:31.11`	`balstor`	`diao thats like what a tank does when there is nothing to tak you dps ( yhea may be sucky dps, but shrug, no one cares how bad you do)`
`13:31.13`	`Diao`	`with our best group`
`13:31.18`	`nevcairiel`	`most of the time we have 2 prots`
`13:31.25`	`nevcairiel`	`1 feral and one fury`
`13:31.26`	`nevcairiel`	`or so`
`13:31.30`	`Diao`	`haven't been able to get dragonhawk down yet`
`13:31.31`	`nevcairiel`	`sometimes 2 ferals`
`13:31.33`	`evl`	`pala tank owns so hard in ZA :D`
`13:31.41`	`evl`	`No agro problems`
`13:31.43`	`[Ammo]`	`ZA and MH = pally powah`
`13:31.47`	`evl`	`you just bulldoze through the whole instance`
`13:31.51`	`Diao`	`yep we use 2 prot war, 33/28 arms warr and feral druid`
`13:32.03`	`evl`	`You very seldom need more than one prot tank in a raid`
`13:32.04`	`nevcairiel`	`people really use arms in raids?`
`13:32.07`	`balstor`	`sb: yhea I agree unless your rogues can't find a kick button and some ones like "what debuff lol lol BOOM"`
`13:32.11`	`evl`	`Druids work much better on many bosses`
`13:32.12`	`Diao`	`for the debuff`
`13:32.13`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: we do for debuffing`
`13:32.19`	`Diao`	`blood frenzy is ridiculous`
`13:32.21`	`[Ammo]`	`nevcairiel: so the MT can spec further into prot`
`13:32.22`	`sb`	`balstor: %-)`
`13:32.32`	`nevcairiel`	`a fury can do that`
`13:32.36`	`nevcairiel`	`and gets more dps out`
`13:32.41`	`Diao`	`fury can't debuff with blood frenzy`
`13:32.45`	`Diao`	`4% extra physical damage`
`13:32.48`	`Diao`	`for entire raid`
`13:32.55`	`evl`	`which is only himself, rogues and hunters`
`13:32.58`	`evl`	`not a huge buff tbh :P`
`13:33.00`	`Diao`	`ferals`
`13:33.03`	`Diao`	`the tank`
`13:33.03`	`evl`	`but i've tried to argue that a hundred times`
`13:33.09`	`nevcairiel`	`so have i`
`13:33.15`	`evl`	`there's no reason to bring a 2h when you can bring a fury`
`13:33.54`	`Diao`	`in any case`
`13:33.59`	`Diao`	`you can't drag a tank through za either`
`13:34.08`	`Diao`	`since the tanks need to be minimum kara geared :(`
`13:34.21`	`nevcairiel`	`i wouldnt want to do that anyway`
`13:34.21`	`sb`	`_MINIMUM_ :o`
`13:34.24`	`nevcairiel`	`would be painful`
`13:34.25`	`evl`	`idd`
`13:34.27`	`kenlyric`	`tanks are dps when dragged.`
`13:34.29`	`evl`	`ZA is much harder than kara`
`13:34.36`	`sb`	`i think ZA is all about tank and healer gear`
`13:34.37`	`Diao`	`so yea`
`13:34.48`	`kenlyric`	`nobody ever drags a tank through anything as a tank.`
`13:34.51`	`nevcairiel`	`everyone in ZA should have a minimum gear`
`13:34.53`	`Diao`	`i don't have time to gear up a badly geared prot pally`
`13:34.55`	`Diao`	`:(`
`13:35.10`	`sb`	`yup nevcairiel, but tank should be >= ssc/tk`
`13:35.22`	`nevcairiel`	`the fights are not that challenging, the dragonhawk is the hardest one imho`
`13:35.27`	`Diao`	`well`
`13:35.33`	`nevcairiel`	`but they do require some dicipline and equip`
`13:35.34`	`Diao`	`we beat the first 3 so far with 2 kara geared tanks`
`13:35.40`	`Diao`	`kara/gruul anyway`
`13:35.41`	`evl`	`hexxer is pretty bad if you don't have good healing`
`13:35.51`	`nevcairiel`	`we had a circle of healing priest`
`13:35.54`	`nevcairiel`	`0 problems`
`13:35.54`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`13:36.17`	`kenlyric`	`and, if you can only kill 3, you can gear up on those.`
`13:36.31`	`Diao`	`well`
`13:36.34`	`Diao`	`we only brought 1 group in`
`13:36.38`	`nevcairiel`	`zul'jin is way too easy imho`
`13:36.40`	`Diao`	`for about 3 hours`
`13:36.44`	`nevcairiel`	`the eagly phase is fun`
`13:36.46`	`nevcairiel`	`but thats about it`
`13:36.52`	`Diao`	`so it was more of a test run`
`13:36.52`	`nevcairiel`	`*eagle`
`13:37.01`	`Diao`	`didn't really get to dragonhawk since people left`
`13:37.03`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:37.07`	`Diao`	`might be able to kill him`
`13:37.23`	`Wobin`	`wow`
`13:37.31`	`nevcairiel`	`we tried the time event in our second run yesterday`
`13:37.36`	`Wobin`	`who knew ginger beer could be used as a mixer with frangelico`
`13:37.42`	`nevcairiel`	`only managed the first two bosses on time because we wiped on the third once`
`13:37.46`	`Diao`	`we missed the timed event on first boss`
`13:37.48`	`Diao`	`by 30 seconds`
`13:37.49`	`Diao`	`literaly`
`13:37.51`	`Diao`	`literally*`
`13:37.51`	`Diao`	`:(`
`13:37.54`	`nevcairiel`	`(third in event is dragonhawk, not lynx)`
`13:37.55`	`Wobin`	`This is really nice =)`
`13:38.03`	`Diao`	`we had him down at 20%`
`13:38.05`	`Diao`	`when the timer ran out`
`13:38.06`	`Diao`	`:\`
`13:38.25`	`nevcairiel`	`time only gets added up, if you are that close on first, you probably wont have time for second either`
`13:38.25`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/archimondedown2.jpg`
`13:38.35`	`Xinhuan`	`he goes like PEW PEW`
`13:38.38`	`Xinhuan`	`and the screen goes all red`
`13:38.42`	`nevcairiel`	`man xperl is fugly`
`13:38.43`	`Diao`	`well`
`13:38.47`	`sb`	`Xinhuan: UHARH`
`13:38.49`	`Diao`	`we only wanted to get first boss in timer`
`13:38.50`	`Diao`	`for the bear mount`
`13:38.51`	`sb`	`:o`
`13:38.53`	`Diao`	`don't care about the others lol`
`13:39.02`	`\|Stan\|`	`zomg Xinhuan`
`13:39.04`	`nevcairiel`	`there is really good loot in the chest`
`13:39.21`	`nevcairiel`	`*chests`
`13:39.24`	`Xinhuan`	`yes i have heaps of fubar stuff ;p`
`13:39.33`	`Diao`	`lol`
`13:39.34`	`Diao`	`so do i :P`
`13:39.39`	`nevcairiel`	`and you have way too much gold`
`13:39.46`	`nevcairiel`	`or you cheated with the display`
`13:39.50`	`Xinhuan`	`that gold is real`
`13:39.51`	`\|Stan\|`	`wtf`
`13:39.53`	`\|Stan\|`	`46k?`
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`13:39.59`	`Xinhuan`	`i earn 500g everyday`
`13:40.01`	`Xinhuan`	`from selling gems`
`13:40.07`	`Xinhuan`	`and enchants`
`13:40.09`	`kenlyric`	`you just need another fubar.`
`13:40.10`	`Xinhuan`	`best on server`
`13:40.13`	`nevcairiel`	`man your population must be stupid`
`13:40.15`	`kenlyric`	`I had to expand to two a long time ago.`
`13:40.25`	`Xinhuan`	`nah, i just have every enchant/gem cut`
`13:40.33`	`Xinhuan`	`there are 17 black temple guilds on my server btw`
`13:40.41`	`Xinhuan`	`3 more just killed gurtogg last week`
`13:40.42`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`13:40.48`	`nevcairiel`	`so there will be alot of people with the recipes`
`13:40.58`	`Xinhuan`	`yup, but it doesn't stop me from owning the economy`
`13:40.59`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`xinhuan: you have to raise the size of your unitframes`
`13:40.59`	`Wobin`	`all I can think of seeing that screen is "Bart, don't use the Touch of Death on your sister!"`
`13:40.59`	`kenlyric`	`we had our fourth guild kill kael last night`
`13:41.01`	`nevcairiel`	`people really are stupid to pay that much gold for it o.O`
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`13:41.08`	`Xinhuan`	`probably aeon\|Capullo`
`13:41.13`	`Xinhuan`	`i always wanted to redo my UI`
`13:41.14`	`Xinhuan`	`but`
`13:41.14`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`hehe`
`13:41.16`	`Kalroth`	`We haven't seen any new KT kills after the patch, rather odd`
`13:41.16`	`sb`	`nevcairiel: cant see those receipes here :/`
`13:41.22`	`Xinhuan`	`i maintain too many addons for me to find time to do that`
`13:41.25`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`i have a nice UI for you`
`13:41.30`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`i made last weekend`
`13:41.34`	`nevcairiel`	`we killed kaelthas yesterday`
`13:41.44`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`http://images.my-ro.net/image.php?id=d6fb731bf9244a6189628bb1e20c67f4`
`13:41.45`	`sb`	`we have 2 BT clear guilds, then 2 alliance guilds with bt/mh access and us on horde - so nobody wants that stuff :p`
`13:41.46`	`\|Stan\|`	`we killed him on friday`
`13:41.48`	`Diao`	`14 fps though Xinhuan`
`13:41.48`	`nevcairiel`	`he is so easy after 2.3`
`13:41.50`	`Diao`	`how can you play with that :(`
`13:41.58`	`nevcairiel`	`phase 1-3 are so fast now`
`13:41.58`	`kenlyric`	`that's so high`
`13:42.13`	`kenlyric`	`14 means everything moves.`
`13:42.18`	`kenlyric`	`3 means it doesn't`
`13:42.29`	`Cheads`	`heh, we only have one guild on Aszune that has killed Illidan`
`13:42.40`	`nevcairiel`	`we have two guilds that killed illidan`
`13:42.44`	`nevcairiel`	`we were second :(`
`13:43.03`	`Kalroth`	`1 illidan kill, 6 KT kills, 10 vashj kills`
`13:43.09`	`Xinhuan`	`yah 14 fps during all that pewpew`
`13:43.32`	`Cheads`	`I barely have time to raid.. so screw you =)`
`13:43.33`	`Xinhuan`	`it goes low during that red shit`
`13:43.42`	`Xinhuan`	`when archimonde does his finger of death thing`
`13:43.47`	`Xinhuan`	`its usually like 40-50 fps`
`13:43.50`	`Xinhuan`	`when he doesn't do that`
`13:43.56`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`for what is this "none" from ElkBuffBars?`
`13:43.57`	`Diao`	`ah`
`13:44.00`	`Xinhuan`	`http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/archimondedown.jpg`
`13:44.07`	`kenlyric`	`aeon\|Capullo: you have no buffs.`
`13:44.08`	`Xinhuan`	`here's a screenshot that was just 3 secs before that other one i think`
`13:44.11`	`Xinhuan`	`29 fps on that one`
`13:44.23`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`http://images.my-ro.net/image.php?id=d6fb731bf9244a6189628bb1e20c67f4`
`13:44.28`	`aeon\|Capullo`	`of course i have`
`13:44.33`	`*** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x573374ce.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)`
`13:44.55`	`kenlyric`	`she flies on the starship enterprise`
`13:45.04`	`Xinhuan`	`that's a pretty neat ui at the bottom aeon`
`13:45.09`	`Xinhuan`	`its like a spaceship`
`13:45.10`	`Kalroth`	`You think so?`
`13:45.25`	`Xinhuan`	`what's the "-" icon button at the bottom?`
`13:45.28`	`Kalroth`	`I guess I'm biased though, since I hate overfancy UIs :p`
`13:45.33`	`Xinhuan`	`the one next to pyroblast`
`13:45.41`	`capullo`	`counterspell macro`
`13:45.48`	`capullo`	`with /stopcasting`
`13:46.01`	`Diao`	`oh`
`13:46.03`	`Diao`	`i know what it is`
`13:46.04`	`Diao`	`from the icon`
`13:46.07`	`Diao`	`it's what you're tracking`
`13:46.21`	`Diao`	`the little magnifying glass means you aren't tracking anything :P`
`13:46.28`	`Hjalte`	`Tekkub, I tried installing ControlFreak 2.2.0.674, but I'm getting an error that I've read on your "Issues" page that you've already fixed. Did you forget to update the addon? :)`
`13:46.35`	`capullo`	`tracking what?`
`13:46.37`	`capullo`	`npcs?`
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`13:46.51`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r716 10/trunk/teknicolor/teknicolor.lua:`
`13:46.51`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: teknicolor - Applied [PATCH] teknicolor does not color friendslist as intended`
`13:46.51`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/issues/detail?id=145`
`13:47.13`	`Xinhuan`	`woo, must update teknicolor`
`13:47.14`	`Tekkub`	`was it fixed after the date the release was published?`
`13:47.35`	`Hjalte`	`Yeah. Just saw that now.`
`13:47.36`	`Diao`	`yea capullo`
`13:47.42`	`capullo`	`http://images.my-ro.net/image.php?id=0ea7a4a40bf0c011b4d78556ef6e4a0a`
`13:47.45`	`Hjalte`	`Tekkub: 1 day after :)`
`13:47.54`	`Tekkub`	`there you go :P`
`13:47.56`	`capullo`	`multiple use of space :P`
`13:48.00`	`Tekkub`	`I need to push up a new CF`
`13:48.10`	`capullo`	`i made a makro to switch between eavesdrop and omen`
`13:48.23`	`kenlyric`	`hey, that's helpful`
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`13:48.49`	`capullo`	`and on the left side to switch between recount and the system buttons`
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`13:50.24`	`Chompers`	`i'm trying to make a little file in python, can i assign an operator to a variable?`
`13:50.28`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r717 10/tags/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Tagging ControlFreak-2.3.0.703 (Beta)`
`13:50.37`	`Chompers`	`so the user can enter the operator themselves`
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`13:52.21`	`kenlyric`	`do quest items say soulbound, or are they always soulbound?`
`13:52.29`	`capullo`	`hmm, how about to write a addon where you can switch between addons`
`13:52.38`	`capullo`	`when you enter combat showing omen`
`13:52.41`	`capullo`	`and so on`
`13:52.45`	`Hjalte`	`kenlyric: Always soulbound.`
`13:53.39`	`kenlyric`	`I made a quip about mana berries, get your mana berries (because 15 people are farming them) and I got three whispers: "how much?"`
`13:55.16`	`Diao`	`mana berries?`
`13:55.57`	`Ellipsis`	`cooking daily`
`13:56.07`	`Diao`	`ah`
`13:56.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i had stupid demon surprise 3 times now`
`13:56.19`	`nevcairiel`	`wtb mana berries`
`13:56.36`	`Ellipsis`	`demon surprise? never had that one`
`13:56.53`	`Ellipsis`	`I always get frickin' spiritual soup`
`13:57.20`	`Ellipsis`	`seriously blizzard, why do you have to give me the one that requires me to stop by a camp of things I can't fear?`
`13:57.49`	`nevcairiel`	`?`
`13:57.56`	`nevcairiel`	`that camp is empty`
`13:58.11`	`Ellipsis`	`no, there are undead orcs all over it`
`13:58.33`	`nevcairiel`	`not for me`
`13:58.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`if you think the camp is empty then you probably havent done the quests that let you see the ghosts in nagrand and terokkar`
`13:58.46`	`nevcairiel`	`good for me then`
`13:58.47`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`13:58.53`	`nevcairiel`	`but i do see ghosts`
`13:58.55`	`nevcairiel`	`yellow mobs`
`13:58.59`	`nevcairiel`	`running all around there`
`13:59.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`really?`
`13:59.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`maybe other people just kill those mobs a lot for you`
`13:59.17`	`nevcairiel`	`not attackable`
`13:59.18`	`Ellipsis`	`the ones in the camp are red though`
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`13:59.25`	`Ellipsis`	`there are yellow ghosts all over the zone`
`13:59.28`	`CIA-8`	`03sorren * r55441 10SorrenTimers/ (Localization.lua SorrenTimers.lua options.lua):`
`13:59.28`	`CIA-8`	`SorrenTimers:`
`13:59.28`	`CIA-8`	`- Added group syncing abilities. These are disabled by default, you have to go`
`13:59.28`	`CIA-8`	`into the options to enable sending/receiving. To share a skill go to the skill`
`13:59.28`	`CIA-8`	`option and check the share box. You can only share skills and not self-buffs.`
`13:59.49`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe there was some quest that disables the hostileness :P`
`14:00.16`	`nevcairiel`	`had the quest 2 tiems now, and always empty there`
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`14:00.54`	`Ellipsis`	`people tend to kill the mobs there`
`14:01.22`	`balstor`	`breakfast be back in a while`
`14:01.33`	`Ellipsis`	`bah, I didn't even get a recipe today :(`
`14:02.12`	`CIA-8`	`03xinhuan * r55442 10BankItems/ (BankItems.lua localization-enUS.lua): BankItems: Commit some code changes as a checkpoint I can revert to if needed.`
`14:03.32`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r718 10/trunk/tekilevel/tekilevel.lua: tekilevel - Fix bug on non-item links`
`14:03.32`	`CIA-8`	`tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r719 10/trunk/tekIsStacked/tekIsStacked.lua: tekIsStacked - Fix bug on non-item links`
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`14:06.56`	`Xinhuan`	`ok so`
`14:07.05`	`Xinhuan`	`killed archimonde tonight right`
`14:07.10`	`Xinhuan`	`http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2737/archimondewo5.jpg`
`14:07.11`	`Tekkub`	`wrong`
`14:07.17`	`Xinhuan`	`see what happened was that`
`14:07.20`	`Xinhuan`	`when we killed azgalor`
`14:07.28`	`Xinhuan`	`the doomguards killed Thrall AFTER`
`14:07.38`	`Xinhuan`	`so we couldn't talk to Thrall to start the "horde base invasion"`
`14:07.46`	`Xinhuan`	`and so none of the epic gem veins spawned`
`14:08.00`	`Xinhuan`	`and that was the result of the conversation with the GM`
`14:08.14`	`Tekkub`	`"your raid will be required" heh`
`14:08.35`	`Xinhuan`	`i wonder if we can get back that GM again`
`14:08.55`	`Xinhuan`	`he seems pretty cute when he said "I did my best! I did my best!"`
`14:09.06`	`nevcairiel`	`so, did the veins spawn?`
`14:09.19`	`Xinhuan`	`well when we killed archi, nothing spawned`
`14:09.37`	`Xinhuan`	`all Tyrande has when you talk to her is a gossip that says "We have won a great victory this day."`
`14:09.42`	`Xinhuan`	`lame huh`
`14:10.28`	`Ellipsis`	`she's so useless`
`14:11.39`	`Ellipsis`	`speaking of useless, why are BoP demonic runes a "trade good" rather than, say, a consumable?`
`14:12.02`	`neenee`	`./bla`
`14:12.09`	`neenee`	`woops`
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`14:12.53`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm`
`14:12.59`	`Xinhuan`	`you're right, its a trade good`
`14:13.23`	`Ellipsis`	`I mean, I can understand dark runes....those are at least boe, and a lot of recipes use them...`
`14:13.35`	`Xinhuan`	`demonic runes are useless now btw`
`14:13.39`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't even suicide with them`
`14:13.43`	`Xinhuan`	`unless you have 900 hp or less`
`14:13.45`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm a lock, they've always been useless to me`
`14:14.11`	`Ellipsis`	`I had some in my bank from farming DM (don't ask)`
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`14:14.18`	`nevcairiel`	`you couldve build the robe of the void with them!`
`14:14.25`	`Ellipsis`	`...except I already did`
`14:14.35`	`Ellipsis`	`one robe of the void is enough for me ;D`
`14:15.26`	`Xinhuan`	`DE for nexus shards!`
`14:15.54`	`Ellipsis`	`...which I would then do what with? :P`
`14:16.31`	`nevcairiel`	`convert to small brilliant shards!`
`14:17.12`	`Ellipsis`	`actually it's small prismatics, but :P`
`14:17.18`	`nevcairiel`	`oh`
`14:17.20`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah right`
`14:17.40`	`kenlyric`	`it's funny. enchanting gear gets much cheaper once you reach level 35.`
`14:17.59`	`Ellipsis`	`or once your gear does, anyway`
`14:18.08`	`kenlyric`	`is that ilevel?`
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`14:18.17`	`Ellipsis`	`no, required level`
`14:18.38`	`kenlyric`	`quest items are quest level?`
`14:18.52`	`Ellipsis`	`yeah, not sure exactly how those are determined`
`14:19.02`	`Ellipsis`	`I've heard it's the earliest level you can accept the quest`
`14:19.26`	`Xinhuan`	`earliest lvl you can accept a quest is 5 lvls below the quest's lvl`
`14:19.43`	`Xinhuan`	`that that because an item's reqlevel to equip is always 5 lower than its ilvl`
`14:19.56`	`Xinhuan`	`except lvl 60 gear and above`
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`14:36.57`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea... the kara T2 drama begins`
`14:37.04`	`Tekkub`	`will the guild survive or split?`
`14:37.31`	`dreamss`	`kara T2 drama?`
`14:38.04`	`Tekkub`	`our T2 is a mess, last time we had 2 karas in one weekend was like 3 weeks ago...`
`14:38.17`	`Tekkub`	`past 2 weeks, no T2 run at all`
`14:38.26`	`dreamss`	`timer 1 needs the gear?`
`14:38.29`	`kenlyric`	`yes, you will split.`
`14:38.47`	`dreamss`	`u can move ur best geared dudes and do ZA`
`14:38.50`	`kenlyric`	`your t3 should be the one that has trouble forming. If t2 does, dooooooom`
`14:38.50`	`Tekkub`	`this weekend... T1 doesn't have enough CC to do ZA... so they take in like 4 T2 people to kara, past curator`
`14:39.10`	`Tekkub`	`that was fri, me and hubby were T2ers in it`
`14:39.16`	`Tekkub`	`sat, T1 does ZA`
`14:39.44`	`Tekkub`	`sun, we ask (and a T2 rogue did too) if we should plan on kara tonight or if they were ZA again...`
`14:39.45`	`dreamss`	`there should not be drama with 10mans seriusly`
`14:39.48`	`Tekkub`	`they tell us ZA`
`14:40.02`	`Tekkub`	`then, aparently, ran kara to the end with the "normal" T1`
`14:40.24`	`dreamss`	`ur best people should be hitting ZA`
`14:40.32`	`dreamss`	`and the rest in kz getting geared for za`
`14:40.33`	`dreamss`	`imo`
`14:40.35`	`Tekkub`	`rogue boy posted a pissy reply to the T1 leaders pissy rules tread he posted when T2 started having issues`
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`14:41.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`if your guild is having fighting between kara groups then yes your in trouble`
`14:41.23`	`Tekkub`	`T2 never has enough healers... T1 takes any they need (hubby's a resto druid and was the main reason we got to go fri)`
`14:41.35`	`Tekkub`	`heh, yea I know we are`
`14:41.47`	`Tekkub`	`just though I'd relate how sad this shit is`
`14:41.55`	`Pkekyo`	`hmm...wowhead dead?`
`14:41.57`	`Tekkub`	`the guild's already a split guild from another`
`14:42.18`	`Tekkub`	`it's been doomed to failure cause it's only focused on the "core" group that split away`
`14:42.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`do you guys even have any intentions of doing 25man content?`
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`14:42.42`	`Tekkub`	`sure we do, we have a gruul signup every other sat`
`14:42.56`	`Tekkub`	`and we never have enough healers`
`14:43.10`	`kenlyric`	`just break up now.`
`14:43.18`	`kenlyric`	`it's better than continued suffering`
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`14:43.22`	`Tekkub`	`in fact, there was a gruul signup this weekend, and they did ZA and no T2 kara`
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`14:44.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah if your team1 and team2 cant get along to work out 10mans by swaping people around (if you have enough to do that) then your doomed for 25mans`
`14:44.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`gota have trust and be able to work with everybody else for 25mans`
`14:44.50`	`Tekkub`	`we don't have enough, that's the whole problem`
`14:45.16`	`Tekkub`	`and then the T1 people that didn't show on friday get to go on sun, and that's causing big issues too`
`14:45.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`have you been doing kara long enough that some people dont need gear from it anymore or only need gear from certain bosses?`
`14:45.51`	`Tekkub`	`sure, I understand swapping people out across the weekend if someone can't make every day... but if you're there on fri you should have priority on sun, no?`
`14:46.16`	`TNSe`	`Arrowmaster, currently taking my 4th alt through kara :P`
`14:46.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`rofl`
`14:46.24`	`TNSe`	`er, 3rd alt depending on how you count`
`14:46.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow`
`14:46.25`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, T1 is all decked out, like I said they're a split off of some other guild they've been in kara a long time`
`14:46.26`	`Codayus`	`The way we handled it was to run a single signup for Kara each week, then form balanced raids and rotate people between them each week... Fixed raid groups seem like a recipe for drama.`
`14:46.42`	`dreamss`	`why they running kz anyways?`
`14:46.49`	`TNSe`	`easy gear`
`14:47.00`	`dreamss`	`they allready have the gear`
`14:47.06`	`TNSe`	`badges`
`14:47.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`Tekkub: yeah if they replaced you with people that didnt really need anything for most the bosses left then your fucked, deffently no trust or being able to work together there`
`14:47.14`	`TNSe`	`1 specific piece of gear you still awnt`
`14:47.17`	`Tekkub`	`cause they "didn't have enough mages" for ZA on fri`
`14:47.37`	`Tekkub`	`oh, there's no trust that's for fucking sure...`
`14:47.43`	`Codayus`	`dreamss: You can be mostly Kara geared, and still want to run it for the last item you need off boss X, which never drops, would be a HUGE upgrade, and the next upgrade comes in BT or something sad.`
`14:47.49`	`Tekkub`	`roh and I coming in with instance (non-heroic) gear...`
`14:48.06`	`Tekkub`	`my DPS sucked, mostly cause of spec... and it should be a tad better now...`
`14:48.13`	`dreamss`	`cody but za has easy replacements for everything`
`14:48.29`	`Tekkub`	`Roh... well they were bitching that he did "16% less healing that the person he was replacing"`
`14:48.37`	`Tekkub`	`they KNOW our gear isn't very great`
`14:48.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`kara got the nerf bat so hard that gear doesnt really matter`
`14:48.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`how many healers did you have?`
`14:48.54`	`Codayus`	`dreamss: Not everything. And not neccesarilly easy if your worried about Kara gear.`
`14:48.59`	`dreamss`	`they should be running their worse gear ppl in kz`
`14:49.06`	`kenlyric`	`gear matters because of fail.`
`14:49.14`	`dreamss`	`qft`
`14:49.28`	`Tekkub`	`plus the main priest keeps thinking he can cast all sorts of big burst heals as a tree`
`14:49.29`	`Codayus`	`Tekkub: Mmm. THat's especially sad because they're looking at healing meters. Since healing is, basically, a zero sum game...`
`14:49.42`	`Tekkub`	`tellin him to cast and cancel at the last second if it's not needed`
`14:49.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`14:50.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`tree is all about the lifeblooms and rejuvs`
`14:50.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`soo fucking cheap on mana`
`14:50.14`	`dreamss`	`chainheal owns healing metters`
`14:50.19`	`dreamss`	`its lol`
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`14:50.40`	`Tekkub`	`the worst part? When I whined at the GM about that, he said "yea that person's an idiot and doesn't know how tree works"...`
`14:50.49`	`Tekkub`	`I neglected to mention it was the PRIEST LEAD`
`14:50.54`	`Codayus`	`Well`
`14:50.57`	`kenlyric`	`idiots should be prevented from zoning`
`14:51.01`	`kenlyric`	`and I mean, into the game`
`14:51.02`	`dreamss`	`time to take ur friends`
`14:51.05`	`dreamss`	`make ur own 10man raid`
`14:51.07`	`dreamss`	`guild`
`14:51.17`	`Codayus`	`Just because your a good priest healer...uh...it doesn't...COMPLETELY mean...you neccesarilly know how trees work?`
`14:51.20`	`kenlyric`	`his friends might be the fail.`
`14:51.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`i havent done kara in a long time but when i was we were running with like 2 healers max, sometimes 1 and an offspec healer`
`14:51.23`	`Tekkub`	`honestly?`
`14:51.32`	`Ellipsis`	`Tekkub: /gquit is there for a reason...`
`14:51.33`	`Tekkub`	`I'd rather find a guild with kara on farm :)`
`14:51.42`	`Codayus`	`(Actually, the really sad thing is, I'm our priest lead, and I know how trees work far better than our druid lead...)`
`14:51.48`	`Tekkub`	`all I want from raiding on this guy is a fucking bear mount`
`14:51.56`	`dreamss`	`anyone with kz on farm is moved on from kz`
`14:52.00`	`kenlyric`	`Tekkub: me too. except the part where I hate raiding.`
`14:52.04`	`Codayus`	`Tekkub: Hm, class, timezone, faction?`
`14:52.05`	`dreamss`	`get heroic gear instead`
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`14:52.09`	`kenlyric`	`dreamss: lies`
`14:52.17`	`Ellipsis`	`Codayus: healers need to know each other's abilities to some extent, at least...otherwise they will fail at working together`
`14:52.18`	`Tekkub`	`huntard, any, ally`
`14:52.31`	`Tekkub`	`I want to "real raid" on my priest when I get him to 70`
`14:52.41`	`Tekkub`	`I only took hunter for the free bear`
`14:52.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`we once did maiden without a dispeller to remove holyfire, it was fucking funny as hell because me and the other warlock got our felhunters out to dispell it, but the 2 shamans droped grounding totems and nobody got hit with a single holyfire but me i think, and i resisted it`
`14:52.47`	`Ellipsis`	`I mean, I wouldn't expect a priest to know the exact cooldown on swiftmend or anything, but knowing that they can't do big burst healing is pretty freaking basic :P`
`14:52.48`	`Codayus`	`Tekkub: You would say huntard...`
`14:54.00`	`Codayus`	`Ellipsis: Well, our druid lead has a um...thing for bears. He's okay at tanking, bad at kitty dps, and clueless at moonkin or tree... Not sure how he ended up as druid lead...exactly...`
`14:54.04`	`kenlyric`	`I still don't understand lifebloom.`
`14:54.09`	`Codayus`	`Also, healing touch!`
`14:54.41`	`Codayus`	`(A druid spamming healing touch is like a paladin with curse of tongues. I think I saw that as a EJ forum sig...)`
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`14:54.43`	`fridg`	`anybody know a bit about pet happiness? i'm trying to build support for pet happiness inside a mod, but i know almost nothing about hunters, aside they're gay and op in 2.3`
`14:54.44`	`Tekkub`	`what's not to understand?`
`14:54.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric: the mana cost of it in treeform is sooo fucking low compared to how much it heals`
`14:54.50`	`Ellipsis`	`lol @ pally with CoT`
`14:54.53`	`Ellipsis`	`that's great`
`14:54.54`	`Tekkub`	`regrow in reverse`
`14:55.00`	`Ozguli`	`throw me some 49 priest pvp spec, atm full shadow but it's not the perfect one for battlegrounds`
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`14:55.05`	`kenlyric`	`I have no idea how it bounces around, how it's kept up. nothing.`
`14:55.08`	`fridg`	`can somebody explain what happiness is briefly?`
`14:55.11`	`kenlyric`	`I know i magically get healed sometime with it.`
`14:55.13`	`Ellipsis`	`fridg: yes, very OP...defeated by walls`
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`14:55.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric: lifebloom doesnt bounce around`
`14:55.26`	`Tekkub`	`happiness is raw cookie dough`
`14:55.32`	`fridg`	`Ellipsis, i play a mage, and i have no chance vs a hunter in 2.3 at all`
`14:55.33`	`Ellipsis`	`kenlyric: it's really like Tekkub said, regrowth in reverse`
`14:55.37`	`Megalon`	`kenlyric: lifebloom actually heals every second, it owns`
`14:55.40`	`fridg`	`pre 2.3 i had at least a chance`
`14:55.42`	`Ellipsis`	`tiny HoT and then a delayed decent-size heal`
`14:55.44`	`neenee`	`There is no baked cookie dough, as that is cookies.`
`14:55.45`	`Codayus`	`kenlyric: Lifebloom is easy to understand. It's like the hunter scorpid pet 'sploit, except for healing, and at LEAST as broken.`
`14:55.52`	`SunTsu`	`kenlyric: It is a HoT which at the ends does a normal heal. It can be stacked thrice`
`14:56.01`	`Ozguli`	`hunteres are OP`
`14:56.08`	`Ozguli`	`"omgwtf we have a deadzone"`
`14:56.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`the normal heal only triggers if the buff wears off though`
`14:56.16`	`Ellipsis`	`fridg: put your back to a wall, game over`
`14:56.19`	`Ozguli`	`but the pets are for that...`
`14:56.23`	`kenlyric`	`that tells me the tooltip, but not how it's used in combat.`
`14:56.24`	`fridg`	`anbody? whats happiness in lamens terms?`
`14:56.27`	`Lukian`	`Ozguli, do you have any idea how annoying that was in 5man pve?`
`14:56.34`	`Tekkub`	`happiness is raw cookie dough`
`14:56.36`	`fridg`	`Ellipsis, how does my back to a wall help?`
`14:56.37`	`kenlyric`	`i watch, and it just hurts my head.`
`14:56.44`	`Megalon`	`kenlyric: stack 3 times on MT, recast just before runs out`
`14:56.47`	`Ozguli`	`uhh? in 5-man pve hunters have a tank`
`14:56.47`	`SunTsu`	`kenlyric: The good part is if somebody dispells it it also triggers that heal`
`14:56.48`	`kenlyric`	`sorry, happiness is always a warm gun.`
`14:56.49`	`Ellipsis`	`fridg: pets can't attack you if your back is to a wall in 2.3`
`14:56.54`	`Ellipsis`	`pathing bug :)`
`14:57.00`	`Megalon`	`i think one druid can support 4 people with lifebloom?`
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`14:57.04`	`Ozguli`	`so they can keep in any range they want`
`14:57.11`	`Lukian`	`Ozguli, yeah, and you think that all of them know where to make the mobs stand so you can shoot them without getting more mobs?`
`14:57.13`	`SunTsu`	`Megalon: No, you should let it run out and then recast`
`14:57.14`	`Ellipsis`	`one druid can support 4 people without lifebloom too, but yeah`
`14:57.31`	`Tekkub`	`happiness is a fuzzy blanket washed with too much fabric softener fresh from the drier`
`14:57.32`	`Megalon`	`let lifebloom run out?`
`14:57.33`	`Ellipsis`	`kenlyric: mostly in combat it's used as a delayed heal`
`14:57.34`	`SunTsu`	`Megalon: Or else you only get the HoT part`
`14:57.37`	`Ozguli`	`then either the tank or hunter sucks`
`14:57.38`	`Codayus`	`kenlyric: Pick a tank. Pop a couple trinkets. Cast Lifebloom 3 times on the tank. Recast Lifebloom often enough it never wears off. Notice that your doing insane HPS, for practically free, and have plenty of time left over to hot other people.`
`14:57.42`	`Megalon`	`the hot part is the awesome part`
`14:57.43`	`Megalon`	`...`
`14:57.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`i wish my dots stacked like hunter pet scorpid sting or lifebloom so i could keep refreshing them before they wore off for massive damage`
`14:57.48`	`Ellipsis`	`Megalon: WTF?`
`14:58.00`	`Lukian`	`Ozguli, so how about the pull at the top of the uldaman stairs leading to archimonde?`
`14:58.01`	`Ozguli`	`the game shouldn't be "balanced" for the stupidest players`
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`14:58.10`	`Ellipsis`	`the hot is horrible, lifebloom is basically a very mana efficient delayed heal`
`14:58.10`	`SunTsu`	`Megalon: No it is the powerful combination of both. Just recast directly after it wore off`
`14:58.23`	`Codayus`	`Pick 2-3 tanks. Pop a couple of trinkets. Keep Lifebloom rolling on them all. Notice at the end of the fight that you've outhealed any two other healers combined.`
`14:58.33`	`Megalon`	`a rolling lifebloom`
`14:58.34`	`Ozguli`	`never been there, uldaman sucks`
`14:58.34`	`kenlyric`	`lies`
`14:58.35`	`Ellipsis`	`if someone is not taking damage right now but needs to be healed sometime within the next 10 seconds, a lifebloom is perfect for them`
`14:58.38`	`Megalon`	`is so fucking awesome`
`14:58.41`	`Megalon`	`on maintanks`
`14:58.48`	`fridg`	`ahhh, well that still doesn't prevent a hunter from doing comparible dmg to me + all the other hunter shit`
`14:58.49`	`kenlyric`	`lifebloom gets credited to the recipient, right? :)`
`14:58.54`	`Megalon`	`nope`
`14:58.55`	`Megalon`	`to the druid`
`14:58.59`	`SunTsu`	`kenlyric: Right ;)`
`14:58.59`	`fridg`	`yes it does`
`14:59.03`	`Lukian`	`Ozguli, exactly, and removing the deadzone makes tight-knit fighting much more viable`
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`14:59.07`	`Megalon`	`it does?`
`14:59.11`	`Ellipsis`	`it does`
`14:59.13`	`SunTsu`	`Megalon: Nope, the recipioent gets the aggro for it`
`14:59.17`	`Ellipsis`	`it's like PoM`
`14:59.17`	`fridg`	`the hot part (each tick /sec is to the druid) the final heal is do the recipient`
`14:59.23`	`Codayus`	`kenlyric: Nope. The end bloom might, the hot doesn't, and the VERY OP part of lifebloom is the HOT, not the end bloom.`
`14:59.25`	`Ozguli`	`but, now they'e completely overpowered in pvp which isn't cool at all`
`14:59.39`	`Ellipsis`	`Codayus: since when?`
`14:59.52`	`Ellipsis`	`it's not even a significant hot unless you stack it`
`15:00.01`	`Codayus`	`Right. So stack it.`
`15:00.05`	`Megalon`	`Codayus: what i said`
`15:00.06`	`Lukian`	`kenlyric, this might help (see combat log) :P http://www.nordrassil.org/lifeboom.jpg`
`15:00.20`	`fridg`	`Ellipsis, its a very significant hot if you stack it`
`15:00.22`	`fridg`	`are you crazy?`
`15:00.30`	`Megalon`	`the lifebloom hot`
`15:00.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`it stacks 3x`
`15:00.32`	`fridg`	`my trip lifebloom does 1k a second`
`15:00.36`	`Megalon`	`is the most powerfull in the whole game`
`15:00.37`	`Ellipsis`	`back when I played a resto druid, lifebloom was not a viable hot`
`15:00.39`	`fridg`	`find another hot that does that`
`15:00.43`	`fridg`	`are you insane?`
`15:00.46`	`fridg`	`the best hot in the game`
`15:00.49`	`Lukian`	`fridg, see screenie, 2.5k :p`
`15:00.50`	`Ellipsis`	`it was, as I just said, a mana efficient delayed heal`
`15:00.51`	`fridg`	`its your most mana efficent heal`
`15:00.53`	`Ellipsis`	`the hot part was pretty much useless`
`15:00.54`	`Lukian`	`2k*`
`15:00.55`	`Lukian`	`hehe`
`15:01.05`	`Megalon`	`liefbloom hot was broken at the release of TBC, the hot only gained +heal on the first stack`
`15:01.06`	`Codayus`	`Ellipsis: You did it wrong, or you played a LONG time ago. They patched in the stack getting full +heal benefit shortly after it went live.`
`15:01.10`	`Ellipsis`	`you don't bother stacking it because the stacks don't affect the end heal`
`15:01.17`	`Megalon`	`than it got fixed, so 3 stacks, +heal*3`
`15:01.20`	`Codayus`	`The end heal is almost useless.`
`15:01.21`	`Tekkub`	`god I love toshley's station`
`15:01.22`	`SunTsu`	`Ellipsis: Even me, as a feral, are most of the time healing myself with lifeblossom`
`15:01.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`Ellipsis: but if you dont let if wear off then you get the healing of a 3x stacked lifebloom for the cost of 1 cast every 6-7 seconds or so`
`15:01.25`	`Megalon`	`every stack got +heal added to it`
`15:01.29`	`Tekkub`	`the guy running around on fire`
`15:01.31`	`fridg`	`you don't bother stacking it? rofl`
`15:01.32`	`Codayus`	`(I say almost, it's okay for raid wide silence or emergencies...)`
`15:01.35`	`Ellipsis`	`SunTsu: lifebloom is GREAT, don't get me wrong`
`15:01.39`	`fridg`	`you need to reevaluate how you heal`
`15:01.42`	`Ellipsis`	`but when I last played my druid, it was not a hot`
`15:01.44`	`Ellipsis`	`it was a delayed heal`
`15:01.49`	`Lukian`	`it's a hot`
`15:01.50`	`Ellipsis`	`apparently they changed it since then`
`15:02.05`	`fridg`	`lifebloom accounts for at least 85% of my resto druids healing`
`15:02.07`	`kenlyric`	`when was that, 2006?`
`15:02.12`	`fridg`	`maybe only 60% in 5 mans`
`15:02.13`	`Codayus`	`For MANY months and MANY patches, the HOT portion gets full benefit from +heal if stacked, but the BLOOM portion does not.`
`15:02.17`	`Ellipsis`	`kenlyric: yes, before the expansion.`
`15:02.21`	`kenlyric`	`lol`
`15:02.22`	`Ellipsis`	`/rolleyes`
`15:02.30`	`Ellipsis`	`no, I played a resto druid when TBC first came out`
`15:02.46`	`fridg`	`ok, if you're trying to save mana`
`15:02.46`	`kenlyric`	`2.0.1 came out a month before TBC, so don't act like it's not possible :)`
`15:02.59`	`Megalon`	`http://wowwebstats.com/pcqax3blxrvo5?s=15480-16237`
`15:03.01`	`CIA-8`	`03aviana * r55446 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: Damn Typo :(`
`15:03.02`	`fridg`	`and are say healing a mt, all you have to do is cast lifebloom to 3 stacks, and hit your 7 key once every 6.5 seconds to heal your mt`
`15:03.04`	`Megalon`	`look at that illidan kill`
`15:03.06`	`fridg`	`unless they're taking retarded dmg`
`15:03.11`	`kenlyric`	`how dumb is it that the cooking quest guy doesn't have a cooking vendor near him?`
`15:03.12`	`*** join/#wowace Morodan (n=chatzill@116.88.0.25)`
`15:03.16`	`kenlyric`	`and the cooking vendor has no cooking pot?`
`15:03.18`	`Megalon`	`tophealer, tree druid, most used, lifebloom`
`15:03.23`	`Ellipsis`	`kenlyric: cooking pot?`
`15:03.24`	`Lukian`	`kenlyric, inn`
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`15:03.29`	`Lukian`	`it's between them`
`15:03.34`	`kenlyric`	`I still have to move.`
`15:03.37`	`kenlyric`	`it's dumb.`
`15:03.41`	`Lukian`	`and there's a stove near the cooking guy isn't there?`
`15:03.48`	`*** join/#wowace Obelixprim1 (n=Obelixpr@63.73.69.132)`
`15:03.48`	`kenlyric`	`there is?`
`15:03.53`	`Lukian`	`I thought there was`
`15:03.54`	`Ellipsis`	`there's a clay oven next to him and a campfire across from him`
`15:03.56`	`kenlyric`	`it fails every time I try to cook`
`15:03.57`	`Ellipsis`	`either one works`
`15:04.01`	`Ellipsis`	`you just have to move like 3 feet`
`15:04.08`	`kenlyric`	`clearly broken`
`15:04.11`	`Ellipsis`	`...`
`15:04.11`	`Ellipsis`	`no u`
`15:04.27`	`kenlyric`	`ug... stupid kibbles`
`15:04.29`	`kenlyric`	`gimme`
`15:04.54`	`Ellipsis`	`o.O`
`15:05.06`	`kenlyric`	`hah, hit food gives me precisely 5% hit. win!`
`15:05.15`	`Ellipsis`	`want :(`
`15:05.16`	`Lukian`	`lol nice`
`15:05.22`	`Lukian`	`I have 21 Ellipsis :p`
`15:05.26`	`Lukian`	`hehe`
`15:05.38`	`sylvanaar`	`lifebloom's OP part is that you can double trinket on the first cast, and your bloom stack will tic for the trinketed +heal amount indefinately as long as you dont allow it to bloom`
`15:05.38`	`Ellipsis`	`the only recipes I've gotten are kibler's bits and skullfin soup`
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`15:05.46`	`kenlyric`	`i got no recipe on my priest today but did get vendorfish.`
`15:05.49`	`Lukian`	`I want kibler's bits :(`
`15:06.07`	`kenlyric`	`I got the electric one and some other stupid one on my priest.`
`15:06.09`	`Lukian`	`oh, goldenscale vendorfish in the fish meat crate? :o`
`15:06.10`	`Ellipsis`	`kibler's bits would be great if I was lolguard spec`
`15:06.20`	`Tekkub`	`vendorfish FTFW`
`15:06.31`	`Lukian`	`I got a skinning knife in the meat box :(`
`15:06.31`	`kenlyric`	`6g was better than a recipe I don't care about.`
`15:06.31`	`fridg`	`how is pet happiness usually represented? a status bar? or some icons?`
`15:06.42`	`Lukian`	`fridg, icons on the pet pane`
`15:06.42`	`Tekkub`	`anyone caught that "engine part" thing you turn in to K. Lee?`
`15:06.50`	`Lukian`	`or a colour on a modifed unitframe`
`15:07.01`	`Ellipsis`	`fridg: ok, here's the thing I don't get...`
`15:07.08`	`Ellipsis`	`why the heck does a non-hunter want to make a hunter pet addon?`
`15:07.12`	`fridg`	`hmm ok, i guess i should just make a hunter even though they're so retarded`
`15:07.20`	`Lukian`	`lol!`
`15:07.25`	`fridg`	`because hunters us my mod and want it?`
`15:07.29`	`kenlyric`	`fridg: just look at the code for King of the Jungle`
`15:07.31`	`Ellipsis`	`what mod is it? o.O`
`15:07.37`	`fridg`	`ummm`
`15:07.39`	`fridg`	`rdx xD`
`15:07.44`	`Lukian`	`what's that?`
`15:07.53`	`fridg`	`www.openrdx.com`
`15:08.03`	`kenlyric`	`out evil spawn!`
`15:08.14`	`fridg`	`it used to a pay per mod, so most of the wowace people hate it`
`15:08.24`	`*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@141.213.223.130)`
`15:08.24`	`fridg`	`at least they did before, its opensource now`
`15:08.32`	`kenlyric`	`it used to suck giant donkey balls so most of the wowace people hate it.`
`15:08.42`	`kenlyric`	`hi. I've come to take your ram.`
`15:08.43`	`Lukian`	`http://www.openrdx.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=9 <- I don't see the question "What is RDX?"`
`15:08.45`	`fridg`	`when?`
`15:09.04`	`Tekkub`	`OMG... my flying macine is broken`
`15:09.15`	`kenlyric`	`what?`
`15:09.19`	`Tekkub`	`lawl...`
`15:09.21`	`neenee`	`I doubt it.`
`15:09.21`	`fridg`	`Lukian, its like ctra on steroids without the shitty coding i guess is the best way to put it`
`15:09.25`	`kenlyric`	`flying machines in pieces on the ground.`
`15:09.28`	`Tekkub`	`I alt-tabbed with space held down`
`15:09.33`	`Tekkub`	`kept flying up`
`15:09.39`	`Lukian`	`fridg, ctra unitframes or everything?`
`15:09.42`	`Ellipsis`	`it does that with all flying mounts o.O`
`15:09.46`	`fridg`	`its a raiding mod, you can make raid unitframes, bossmods with alerts, its got a lot of stuff`
`15:09.55`	`Lukian`	`nice`
`15:10.18`	`Tekkub`	`yea but the way the animation was going it looked like the jets were stuck pushing up, and I was beating on the dashboard`
`15:10.26`	`fridg`	`its got a remote combat log viewer where you can download other players combat logs like after a wipe and see what you mt died`
`15:10.58`	`kenlyric`	`anyway, look at king of the jungle. It monitors pet happiness and activates when it drops.`
`15:11.07`	`fridg`	`it used to have a module where you could draw freehand lines and shapes and raid icons on instance maps sync'd between raid members, but the dev for that module kinda peaced the fuck out, and stopped coding it so its horribly broken`
`15:11.16`	`fridg`	`ok, some guys are just bitching at pet happiness`
`15:11.21`	`Ellipsis`	`why would you need a remote combat log viewer?`
`15:11.23`	`fridg`	`and i don't have a hunter or know wtf it does`
`15:11.29`	`Ellipsis`	`you have your own combat log to look at o.O`
`15:11.35`	`fridg`	`like after a wipe and see what you mt died`
`15:11.40`	`fridg`	`aka`
`15:11.44`	`Codayus`	`Ellipsis: Ask a raid leader, they'll explain. :-)`
`15:11.54`	`Ellipsis`	`all that info is in your own combat log though`
`15:11.55`	`fridg`	`we wipe, i run a query on my mt, and i download his entire combat log buffer`
`15:11.58`	`fridg`	`no its not`
`15:12.15`	`fridg`	`what if hes across the room?`
`15:12.17`	`Ellipsis`	`you can use one of the death tracking mods or a filterable/searchable combat log`
`15:12.21`	`durcyn`	`200 yard combatlog range.`
`15:12.24`	`Ellipsis`	`^`
`15:12.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`you dont have your combat log distiance set to 200 yards?`
`15:12.26`	`kenlyric`	`welcome to 2.2?`
`15:12.31`	`durcyn`	`makes sync about as pointful as tits on a bull`
`15:12.42`	`Ellipsis`	`hey now durcyn, some guys are into that`
`15:12.44`	`nevcairiel`	`2.2 doesnt allow increaed log range anymore iirc`
`15:12.46`	`fridg`	`ehh w/e hate all you want`
`15:12.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes it does`
`15:12.52`	`cladhaire`	`is OpenRDX different from Rdx.Cid and now Conspiracy?`
`15:12.53`	`Codayus`	`nevcairiel: Yes it does; common myth.`
`15:13.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can have 200 yard combat log range for party/raid`
`15:13.15`	`kenlyric`	`everything that RDX did well got replaced by WWS and 2.0.1`
`15:13.19`	`Ellipsis`	`...wow...`
`15:13.21`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire: OpenRDX was the original "pay" RDX that the guy made open source now, its not .Cid or Consp`
`15:13.24`	`fridg`	`cladhaire, yes, rdx.cid is made by cidan is kinda a fork of rdx5, which was completely rewritten to consipracy ui`
`15:13.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`but getting enemy stuff is limited to 50`
`15:13.29`	`Ellipsis`	`someone in IF is paying 1g for a port to SW`
`15:13.39`	`Codayus`	`That being said, in my experience, you still see some variance with looking at 2 logs of the same 25 man, even if they both hvae 200y ranges.`
`15:13.39`	`cladhaire`	`yes../ i know the history.. i wrote a book about it.`
`15:13.41`	`Lukian`	`Ellipsis, lol!`
`15:13.44`	`Ellipsis`	`I wonder if he'll give me 1g for showing him the tram...`
`15:13.45`	`cladhaire`	`i'm just asking, because this is the first i've heard of openrdx`
`15:13.45`	`Fisker-`	`what about`
`15:13.47`	`Fisker-`	`"it's shit"`
`15:13.49`	`fridg`	`openrdx is basicly, the rdx author can't spend enough time to upkeep the mod, so he opensourced it`
`15:13.53`	`fridg`	`www.rdx-raid.com`
`15:13.56`	`Codayus`	`Nothing IMPORTANT, but a few lines here or there.`
`15:13.59`	`fridg`	`that was the priginal pay-per site`
`15:14.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`aka not enough people paid him?`
`15:14.22`	`fridg`	`nah, hes busy raiding with a fulltime job`
`15:14.36`	`Codayus`	`Not enough people for it to BE a fulltime job, anyhow...`
`15:14.43`	`Ellipsis`	`sucks to be anyone who paid for it`
`15:14.45`	`Fisker-`	`i can't honestly believe why people would pay for it :o`
`15:15.02`	`fridg`	`lol, this is why i don't tell this channel shit`
`15:15.15`	`fridg`	`i paid for it, and i don't regret it`
`15:15.18`	`Codayus`	`(Besides, I think the development model is flawed. The whole...one man, one plan, one freaking huge application thing...doesn't scale well.`
`15:15.23`	`fridg`	`you all pay to paly a stupid online game`
`15:15.28`	`fridg`	`per month even`
`15:15.34`	`fridg`	`how is that different?`
`15:15.46`	`fridg`	`you pay for vent too prob, and a wehost as a guild prob`
`15:15.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`because theres not a better game`
`15:15.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres better mods though`
`15:15.55`	`Ellipsis`	`actually I don't pay for anything`
`15:15.59`	`Ellipsis`	`so I'm exempt from your argument`
`15:16.08`	`fridg`	`Arrowmaster, not in my opinion`
`15:16.17`	`Codayus`	`Fisker-: I can easily understand paying for it...if I thought it offered enough of an advantage for the cost. It was hardly expensive.`
`15:16.22`	`fridg`	`yeah`
`15:16.23`	`kenlyric`	`your opinion is wrong.`
`15:16.27`	`kenlyric`	`and has been since 2.0.1`
`15:16.43`	`fridg`	`good argument.`
`15:16.44`	`sylvanaar`	`It was a turnkey soultion for raid management`
`15:16.46`	`kenlyric`	`when rdx lost the ability to make dynamic frames, it's reason for existing died too.`
`15:16.47`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( Looks like I just ran out of pop corn. dang. )`
`15:16.49`	`Ellipsis`	`Codayus: still sucks to pay for something and then have it go open source the next day`
`15:16.50`	`Fisker-`	`hardly expensive != being good`
`15:17.03`	`Fisker-`	`it's value might be great, but you could get greater value`
`15:17.22`	`fridg`	`i'd be willing to bet not even 2% of you have used rdx6`
`15:17.30`	`sylvanaar`	`and my new opinion is "open source sucks donkey balls"`
`15:17.50`	`Ellipsis`	`very well thought out`
`15:17.51`	`Matrix110`	`well there was some time when RDX was really the best raidsuite available but rdx6 wasnt really special there were same/better mods freely available`
`15:17.52`	`Fisker-`	`i don't think it was version 6 but version 5`
`15:17.55`	`*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@141.213.223.130)`
`15:18.08`	`kenlyric`	`my guild did. We loved it. Memory hog, but fairly awesome. Then 2.0.1 hit`
`15:18.10`	`fridg`	`version 5 sucked`
`15:18.12`	`Matrix110`	`If guilds want to pay for it who the fuck cares let them pay for it`
`15:18.23`	`fridg`	`it didn't suck when it came out`
`15:18.24`	`Matrix110`	`i mean there are people buying PCs for their whole guild so they dont DC anymore`
`15:18.28`	`fridg`	`but it wasn't customizible`
`15:18.54`	`sylvanaar`	`i used rdx (i dont know which) back when I was raiding pre-tbc, it was required by my guild at that time`
`15:18.56`	`fridg`	`Matrix110, how is paying like 15 bucks every 3 months the same as buying a fucking pc for peopl ein your guild?`
`15:19.20`	`Fisker-`	`i'd rather do the latter`
`15:19.21`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`15:19.26`	`fridg`	`sylvanaar, you should give it a go again, its nothing like 5`
`15:19.40`	`Matrix110`	`fridg i said already it doesnt matter at all if you pay for it?`
`15:19.43`	`Matrix110`	`its your choice`
`15:19.44`	`Codayus`	`I'm too old and set in my ways to change UIs now...`
`15:19.53`	`fridg`	`5 was ok as the originalv ersion, the prob is that it was leaked and then modded about 50000 times which is why it was a memory hog`
`15:19.54`	`Matrix110`	`if you want to pay for mods available somewhere else for free its your choice`
`15:19.55`	`Codayus`	`...or something.`
`15:20.05`	`fridg`	`w/e rdx6 is now free`
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`15:20.50`	`sylvanaar`	`I dont know why people think that people should write software for free`
`15:20.52`	`Codayus`	`Heh, how was the combat log sharing module ever NOT going to be a memory hog? :-)`
`15:21.23`	`kenlyric`	`we used the bossmods from the guild that got banned for c'thun hacking`
`15:21.26`	`fridg`	`ehh? my top 5 things i love about rdx, i can make anything a window a bossmod w/e and send it to any guildies`
`15:21.48`	`Codayus`	`sylvanaar: Well, the theoretical argument would involve costs of production, marginal utility curves, and so on.`
`15:21.52`	`Matrix110`	`sylvanaar because of the huge amount of openSource available people tend to forget that its actually hard work to write a complex program`
`15:21.53`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( Last I checkt, Open Source didn't mean "for free" - did that changed while i blinked? )`
`15:22.01`	`Codayus`	`Or the empirical argument would be "linux".//`
`15:22.06`	`Codayus`	`er, ..., even`
`15:22.13`	`fridg`	`how does opensource not mean free?`
`15:22.13`	`*** join/#wowace Provus (n=UPP@ip68-97-142-183.ok.ok.cox.net)`
`15:22.18`	`fridg`	`its lua code`
`15:22.28`	`Provus`	`Is there an addon out there that will give you a visual indicator whenever you have a DoT on you?`
`15:22.29`	`SunTsu`	`fridg: It meeans free as in freedom, not as in free beer`
`15:22.37`	`Matrix110`	`yes`
`15:22.44`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, i have sand today because of the crap on the WAU thread`
`15:22.46`	`fridg`	`i mean free in the since that you had to pay for it, now you dont, thats free.`
`15:22.47`	`SunTsu`	`Provus: countless ;)`
`15:22.49`	`Matrix110`	`for ALL dots it needs quite alot configuring though:P`
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`15:22.53`	`Chompers`	`or Grid`
`15:22.53`	`Codayus`	`SunTsu: That analogy has always annoyed me, especially in the more common "free as in free speech, not as in free beer".`
`15:22.56`	`Provus`	`..If they're so countless why the heck can't I find any?`
`15:23.07`	`nevcairiel`	`Provus: its called blizzard buff frames, it gives you a little button in the top right of your screen showing you any DoTs`
`15:23.10`	`Matrix110`	`Provus define visual first`
`15:23.18`	`Fisker-`	`hmmm`
`15:23.21`	`Provus`	`It will tell me specifically that I have a dot, any dot, on me.`
`15:23.21`	`Codayus`	`Because free beer is actually a LOT more free. I can do whatever I want with beer. Speech is typically far more constrained.`
`15:23.22`	`Fisker-`	`for some reason all my fonts got reset`
`15:23.25`	`fridg`	`so whats this wau 2.0 thing? i have the 1.999999 or w/e version?`
`15:23.29`	`Provus`	`Not just an icon in the corner.`
`15:23.32`	`Fisker-`	`i set clearfont2 back to normal but now my fubar still uses another font`
`15:23.39`	`SunTsu`	`Codayus: But it still holds true. Open Source is all about freedom, not about paying nothing. If it comes together, that's OK, but not a must`
`15:23.39`	`Fisker-`	`halp`
`15:23.41`	`sylvanaar`	`WAU2 is written by another author`
`15:23.44`	`Fisker-`	`etc.`
`15:23.44`	`Provus`	`Think like a little button that lights up whenever you have a damage over time effect on you.`
`15:23.53`	`sylvanaar`	`I have been waiting for him to finish it for 6 months +`
`15:23.57`	`Provus`	`I'm looking for an addon like that.`
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`15:24.07`	`fridg`	`sylvanaar, recode? or fork of the original opensource one?`
`15:24.18`	`dylanm`	`Get a buff mod that allows for custom filtering. You'd have to add the ones of interest by yourself because I don't think anyone has made a list of everything that does damage over time.`
`15:24.20`	`kenlyric`	`but wau1 is so much bettter`
`15:24.21`	`Codayus`	`SunTsu: Communist.`
`15:24.23`	`sylvanaar`	`recode - unrelated`
`15:24.43`	`Provus`	`I was going to do it with Power Auras but I hit the text limit.`
`15:24.47`	`Codayus`	`I looked at wau2 a while back. It um... Seemed to have a ways to go...`
`15:24.55`	`Matrix110`	`Power Aura is i think the best visual indication but you woudl nee to configure it for every DoT :-(`
`15:24.55`	`dylanm`	`Might be possible to automatically do it with tooltip scanning but no one has really done it.`
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`15:25.04`	`SunTsu`	`Codayus: You are reading strange things out of my sentences ;)`
`15:25.04`	`durcyn`	`Codayus: nah, the advertisements worked -perfectly-.`
`15:25.07`	`nevcairiel`	`WAU2 was never finished because the author got caught up in real life stuff`
`15:25.22`	`Provus`	`Matrix: If you know of a way to increase the text limit I'd like to hear it.`
`15:25.24`	`dylanm`	`Again it would be annoying because Blizzard is really inconsistent.`
`15:25.29`	`Fisker-`	`WAU 1.9 > 2 anyways`
`15:25.30`	`Fisker-`	`:)`
`15:25.38`	`kenlyric`	`except for being coded in java for mac/linux nerds, I saw no benefit.`
`15:25.45`	`Codayus`	`Fisker-: Well, we won't know until 2.0 goes gold...`
`15:25.54`	`dylanm`	`kenlyric: It doesn't work for us Mac nerds, last I checked.`
`15:25.55`	`Fisker-`	`do you wanna question my authority?`
`15:25.57`	`Codayus`	`But I'm wondering what the advantages will be, exactly.`
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`15:26.13`	`fridgid`	`i don't really notice anything, i start it up hit f10 and then close it /shrug`
`15:26.29`	`sylvanaar`	`WAU2 isnt being worked on atm - i talked to him yesterday, he says he may have some time again in a few weeks`
`15:26.44`	`Fisker-`	`one thing that's annoying though is the memory usage`
`15:26.51`	`Pkekyo`	`did wowhead and thottbot die recently?`
`15:27.00`	`Codayus`	`All I want...fast, doesn't randomly delete my addons, compiles a changelog for whatever it updates, and has a search function for new addons. What more do you need?`
`15:27.00`	`Fisker-`	`but as far as i've understood .net framework apps deal with memory itself`
`15:27.01`	`nevcairiel`	`wowhead works fine for me`
`15:27.03`	`Fisker-`	`rather than codewise`
`15:27.07`	`nevcairiel`	`thottbot usually is a bit outdated`
`15:27.14`	`Pkekyo`	`did I get banned from wowhead then?`
`15:27.18`	`Codayus`	`Wowhead was down a day ago or so for a little while...`
`15:27.21`	`Pkekyo`	`'cause I can't open thott nor wh`
`15:27.24`	`dylanm`	`wowhead is up for me`
`15:27.31`	`nevcairiel`	`works for me`
`15:27.35`	`fridgid`	`same`
`15:27.37`	`Fisker-`	`i guess you can ask skosiris in #wowhead Pkekyo`
`15:27.37`	`Codayus`	`Wowhead works fine for me though.`
`15:27.39`	`dylanm`	`They do have maintenance sometimes but I'm not seeing the funny little page for that.`
`15:27.53`	`fridgid`	`how can you get banned from wowhead lol?`
`15:27.59`	`sylvanaar`	`datamining`
`15:28.07`	`dylanm`	`Uh-oh :(`
`15:28.20`	`Pkekyo`	`well, I didn't do any datamining soeh...`
`15:29.47`	`dylanm`	`Maybe you did it in your sleep.`
`15:29.47`	`fridgid`	`wow, so apparently, you can do that, a friend of mine wrote a wowarmory datamining script (in php) which he can import into wow, and then can run a script which while inside an arena trys to ignore every name from a team until its successful, at which point you can know which team you are fighting`
`15:30.01`	`fridgid`	`apparently blizzard doesn't have a flood check on ignoring people?`
`15:30.07`	`*** join/#wowace Lopen\|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76)`
`15:30.09`	`dylanm`	`Nope.`
`15:30.14`	`sylvanaar`	`haha`
`15:30.15`	`nevcairiel`	`not yet anyway`
`15:30.16`	`dylanm`	`That's how Shadowed's mod works, kinda.`
`15:31.13`	`fridgid`	`its just so weird that you can do taht lol`
`15:31.32`	`dylanm`	`Still gotta beat 'em.`
`15:31.43`	`fridgid`	`yup`
`15:31.51`	`fridgid`	`but knowing is half the battle no>?`
`15:31.53`	`Matrix110`	`well in the first weeks a fast PC was enough to see the other team members:P`
`15:31.55`	`fridgid`	`you can decide on gear etc`
`15:31.57`	`sylvanaar`	`I thought it said which team you were fighting somewhere`
`15:32.07`	`Codayus`	`No, names are secret...`
`15:32.11`	`fridgid`	`not til somebody dies i don't believe`
`15:32.24`	`fridgid`	`and you can't get names until the gates open`
`15:32.27`	`Pkekyo`	`haha, this is great...3v3 team with two prot warrs :D`
`15:32.41`	`dylanm`	`fridgid: I think that's a myth perpetrated by muscular people.`
`15:32.47`	`Codayus`	`Which makes /ignore spamming pretty obviously dodgy...`
`15:32.52`	`fridgid`	`yeah`
`15:33.08`	`fridgid`	`w/e im sure they're put a flood / dc cap on it at some point`
`15:33.31`	`dylanm`	`Yep. It would be very, very easy to fix.`
`15:33.36`	`sylvanaar`	`just disable it while in the arena`
`15:33.41`	`Matrix110`	`iam guessing 99% there is a thread on wow forums sometime and hotfixed pretty fast`
`15:33.49`	`sylvanaar`	`just disable it while in the arena`
`15:33.50`	`*** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.108.158)`
`15:33.50`	`Codayus`	`I just hope they don't go overboard and limit too much...`
`15:33.54`	`sylvanaar`	`wierd`
`15:33.57`	`Codayus`	`....not that they've EVER done that...`
`15:34.04`	`dylanm`	`Nope.`
`15:34.18`	`fridgid`	`well people want to be able to ignore the other team while playing b/c they cna spam the shit oout of you`
`15:34.22`	`Matrix110`	`they fixed the pet bug its so evil`
`15:34.32`	`Matrix110`	`you could spawn as many pets as you want`
`15:34.38`	`sylvanaar`	`spam you with what?`
`15:34.44`	`Matrix110`	`i walked around with 50 egberts`
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`15:34.48`	`Matrix110`	`its so insane`
`15:34.54`	`fridgid`	`like /spit macros or something`
`15:34.55`	`sylvanaar`	`they could spam you with an alt too`
`15:35.07`	`fridgid`	`indeed they could`
`15:35.19`	`sylvanaar`	`or have thier whole guild do it`
`15:35.21`	`Codayus`	`fridgid: Hmm, never had it happen. Seems...fairly pointless?`
`15:35.48`	`Matrix110`	`I guess they do it in like the 1200 region to win games :P`
`15:35.51`	`fridgid`	`i've had people use spams macros which effectivly make chat communication pointless, but w/e`
`15:36.02`	`fridgid`	`im not big into arenas anymore`
`15:36.04`	`Matrix110`	`(where you obviously have to totally sleep when fighting to loose)`
`15:36.54`	`Ellipsis`	`Matrix110: they had to fix the minipet bug because it actually caused lag for players in the area`
`15:37.00`	`Ellipsis`	`(god knows what kind of code went into THAT)`
`15:37.00`	`Matrix110`	`i know:P`
`15:37.20`	`Matrix110`	`at sometime we had about 400 pets in the area`
`15:37.26`	`Matrix110`	`and yeah it lagged pretty badly:P`
`15:38.05`	`Matrix110`	`had like 5fps then and i got a new PC...`
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`15:38.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis`
`15:39.06`	`fridgid`	`so for hunters, happiness is basicly an icon with one of 3 faces? thats it?`
`15:39.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`what was that commit to durfu from Arrowmaster about`
`15:39.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`btw. hello`
`15:39.15`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht, nice to see you too`
`15:39.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fridgid: yes`
`15:39.19`	`Ellipsis`	`also: sec, lemme check fish`
`15:39.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`sag_ich_nicht: taint fix`
`15:39.48`	`Ellipsis`	`oh`
`15:39.56`	`Ellipsis`	`yeah, they changed the hook so it's secure now`
`15:40.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`sag_ich_nicht: plus other stuff, although i might have broken it but i dont think so`
`15:40.05`	`Ellipsis`	`also the durability API change is epic win`
`15:40.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Arrowmaster i read that. just asked because Ellipsis was working on it too`
`15:40.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also my taintlog is strangely small`
`15:40.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`might be because XUB isn't running in a raid setting for me`
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`15:41.17`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht, you know perfectly well I don't have a svn account and don't interfere with any dev going on there`
`15:41.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lies`
`15:41.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`filthy lies`
`15:42.18`	`Ellipsis`	`also, that code looks to be possibly broken when disabling the addon`
`15:42.20`	`Ellipsis`	`but don't mind me`
`15:42.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`what code?`
`15:42.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`the durafu?`
`15:43.01`	`Ellipsis`	`yes`
`15:43.05`	`kenlyric`	`assertion FAILED`
`15:43.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have no clue if it works`
`15:43.14`	`Ellipsis`	`line 121`
`15:43.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`but im perty sure that the secure hook shouldnt get called at that point`
`15:43.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`just change it already and commit it Ellipsis`
`15:43.46`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: I don't have a svn account, and I don't even use the addon so I don't really care about fixing it`
`15:43.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`not sure if its the beginning or he end of the ondisable that functions get unhooked`
`15:44.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis you told me something different a few nights ago :P`
`15:44.27`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: I was asked to do a port of it, that's different`
`15:44.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`oic`
`15:44.38`	`Ellipsis`	`I would have to rewrite a lot of the code anyway`
`15:44.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyway`
`15:44.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`one of you too`
`15:44.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*two`
`15:44.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`add guild bank repair support`
`15:44.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`i made a lot of changes to durafu in that commit`
`15:44.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`now.`
`15:44.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`some of it was ugly`
`15:45.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont even use durafu autorepair`
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`15:47.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`uh`
`15:47.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`question about commit 55360, does slouken know about this already? :X`
`15:47.21`	`Matrix110`	`somebody hates clearfont`
`15:48.00`	`\|Stan\|`	`why`
`15:48.00`	`Matrix110`	`rabbit that is!`
`15:48.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`whats 55360?`
`15:48.10`	`Matrix110`	`all my fonts resetted`
`15:48.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`gah, i should just writeprotect my Design.lua`
`15:48.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`15:48.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`you changed your Design.lua`
`15:48.29`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: I don't think anyone reported it, no`
`15:48.29`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`ho ho ho`
`15:48.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`write protect it`
`15:48.35`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`tee hee hee`
`15:48.37`	`Matrix110`	`hmm nope`
`15:48.39`	`\|Stan\|`	`Matrix110: it now uses LibSharedMedia 2`
`15:48.40`	`Matrix110`	`oh`
`15:48.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: well someone should`
`15:48.44`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`Eric the half a be!`
`15:48.45`	`Matrix110`	`actually i did:P`
`15:48.45`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: no u`
`15:48.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: no US account`
`15:48.54`	`Ellipsis`	`is sedatedChipmunk talking in his sleep`
`15:48.55`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`^e`
`15:49.08`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`singing`
`15:49.24`	`Ellipsis`	`wake up, you're having a nightmare`
`15:49.26`	`Ellipsis`	`or I am`
`15:49.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`15:49.56`	`Chompers`	`the cybering has started`
`15:50.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~honk sedatedChipmunk`
`15:50.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fail`
`15:50.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`well she did bonk him`
`15:50.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`~horn`
`15:50.13`	`Chompers`	`without Fisker-, i'm surprised`
`15:50.26`	`Ellipsis`	`I save the good stuff for Fisker-`
`15:50.50`	`Chompers`	`he does like the pooper after all`
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`15:51.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so do i, so? point?`
`15:51.47`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel * r55447 10Cartographer1/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer1: backport ZA boss notes`
`15:52.14`	`*** join/#wowace Lyn_ (n=Lyn@Le28c.l.pppool.de)`
`15:52.22`	`Provus`	`Woo, I found a way to increase the Power Aura text limit and I added all the pvp dots`
`15:52.39`	`Ellipsis`	`WTB sorting AH by bid instead of buyout`
`15:52.41`	`Ellipsis`	`PST`
`15:52.43`	`Ellipsis`	`>_>`
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`15:53.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: plz2/join #norganna`
`15:53.33`	`Ellipsis`	`why?`
`15:53.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because that is where auctioneer is developed`
`15:53.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`15:53.46`	`Ellipsis`	`I don't use auctioneer`
`15:54.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well`
`15:54.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`then go away`
`15:54.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`creepo`
`15:54.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:(`
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`15:56.23`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: did you just call me "creepo"?`
`15:56.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yes.`
`15:56.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so?`
`15:56.51`	`Ellipsis`	`dude, wtf?`
`15:57.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`what.`
`15:57.16`	`Ellipsis`	`so now I have to use all the same addons you do, huh`
`15:57.18`	`Ellipsis`	`is that how it is?`
`15:57.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`15:57.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`you are creepy`
`15:57.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because you don't use auctioneer`
`15:57.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:(`
`15:57.36`	`Ellipsis`	`good, because your interface dir is bigger than my ass`
`15:57.41`	`Ellipsis`	`and that's saying something`
`15:57.44`	`Ellipsis`	`;D`
`15:57.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd tap that ass`
`15:57.55`	`Ellipsis`	`get in line`
`15:57.56`	`Kalroth`	`I don't use auctioneer either :(`
`15:58.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: i'm already ON line`
`15:58.07`	`Ellipsis`	`honestly, I don't need auctioneer`
`15:58.15`	`Ellipsis`	`the only things I buy/sell regularly I already know the prices of`
`15:58.21`	`Ellipsis`	`and I DE almost any greens I get`
`15:58.22`	`Kalroth`	`Same`
`15:59.23`	Xion`	`auctioneer is so last year >_<`
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`16:01.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`oh oh oh oh`
`16:01.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`guys`
`16:01.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`new KTM release`
`16:01.41`	`kenlyric`	`who cares about knowing the prices?`
`16:01.48`	`kenlyric`	`that's what the mod is for.`
`16:01.53`	`kenlyric`	`typing them in is bullshit.`
`16:01.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeah.`
`16:01.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`16:02.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`shut up, new KTM is out`
`16:02.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`do a diff`
`16:02.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`16:02.14`	`kenlyric`	`Appraiser -> Post Items Post Items Post Items`
`16:02.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`16:02.22`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`appraiser is bad`
`16:02.27`	`kenlyric`	`your mom is bad`
`16:02.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`even after 3 months of use`
`16:02.31`	`kenlyric`	`BURNED`
`16:02.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it is still not completely in sync with my classic database`
`16:02.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:X`
`16:02.41`	`kenlyric`	`who cares if it's right.`
`16:02.43`	`kenlyric`	`it's fast.`
`16:02.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`I CARE`
`16:02.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`BITCH`
`16:02.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtf why the hell does clicking the box to disable looknfeel autoreload your ui`
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`16:02.55`	`kenlyric`	`if I wanted to make money I'd price everything individually.`
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`16:03.03`	`kenlyric`	`I'd buy out the market first and jack up prices.`
`16:03.13`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`16:03.21`	`Xinhuan`	`Arrowmaster: disabling any module in carto core reloads ui`
`16:03.32`	`Xinhuan`	`cos that's how the function that disables it is defined inside carto-core`
`16:03.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`not foglight`
`16:03.45`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm really`
`16:04.17`	`Ellipsis`	`disabling modules is for noobs`
`16:04.20`	`Xinhuan`	`i thought i looked into carto code enough`
`16:04.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[17:04] <Ellipsis> disabling modules is for noobs <--<3`
`16:04.49`	`kenlyric`	`sag_ich_nicht: what's the diff?`
`16:04.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`enabling looknfeel also reloads`
`16:04.58`	`kenlyric`	`OMENSUX?`
`16:05.05`	`Ellipsis`	`yeah, I kinda wanna know the results of your KTM diff as well`
`16:05.09`	`Ellipsis`	`and am way too lazy to do it myself`
`16:05.25`	`Pkekyo`	`how can I calculate how many arena points I will have after ten lost matches?`
`16:05.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
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`16:06.22`	`kenlyric`	`between bulkmail2 and AA, I spend absolutely no time dealing with stuff. Though I do have to slowly learn which items are vendorfish.`
`16:06.28`	`kenlyric`	`gogo rough stone!`
`16:06.48`	`Pkekyo`	`I meant: is there any way of calculating what arena rating I will have after ten matches lost?`
`16:07.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`16:07.03`	`Lukian`	`kenlyric, noes! engineering and JC needs that! :O`
`16:07.08`	`Lukian`	`hehe`
`16:07.12`	`kenlyric`	`maybe, but they don't pay for it`
`16:07.16`	`Lukian`	`indeed`
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`16:08.00`	`kenlyric`	`I'm in a large scrub guild, and their guild bank is fail.`
`16:08.06`	`kenlyric`	`There are ZG coins in there.`
`16:08.15`	`Lyfe`	`scrub guild?`
`16:08.20`	`Gngsk`	`scarab idols?`
`16:08.30`	`kenlyric`	`oh god, those people never made it into AQ.`
`16:08.35`	`Gngsk`	`haha`
`16:08.39`	`Gngsk`	`not even aq20?`
`16:08.42`	`kenlyric`	`wipe`
`16:08.44`	`kenlyric`	`to spider boss`
`16:08.52`	`Gngsk`	`serious business`
`16:08.58`	`Lyfe`	`so, you joined the guild because...?`
`16:09.09`	`kenlyric`	`because they have a lot of people and I don't raid.`
`16:09.21`	`kenlyric`	`needed large IRC channel in game, OK?`
`16:09.31`	`Lyfe`	`ahh.`
`16:09.52`	`kenlyric`	`they're incredibly nice people. Just bad at the game.`
`16:10.46`	`kenlyric`	`can you misdirect attumen when he appears?`
`16:11.01`	`Xinhuan`	`yes ;p`
`16:11.07`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: wut?`
`16:11.13`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: "rabbit that is!"`
`16:11.16`	`Fisker-`	`vhaarr YOU`
`16:11.16`	`Xinhuan`	`i also have about 4 columns of a guildtab filled with ZG coins and AQ20/40 tokens`
`16:11.18`	`Fisker-`	`it was YOU`
`16:11.19`	`Fisker-`	`all along`
`16:11.19`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: NO U`
`16:11.21`	`Xinhuan`	`and about 700 frozen runes`
`16:11.24`	`Matrix110`	`you changed clearfont2`
`16:11.28`	`Matrix110`	`makes me a sad panda`
`16:11.35`	`vhaarr`	`Matrix110: why, it doesn't work?`
`16:11.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`kenlyric: our guild bank has zg coins`
`16:11.39`	`vhaarr`	`works fine here`
`16:11.40`	`kenlyric`	`Xinhuan: is your guild bank out of space because of it?`
`16:11.48`	`Matrix110`	`i suppose it does but my old settings dont:P`
`16:11.54`	`Fisker-`	`no it was you vhaarr :(`
`16:11.58`	`kenlyric`	`there are also 15 shirts in there.`
`16:12.00`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: kk :/`
`16:12.05`	`Xinhuan`	`no, it just uses a single tab, which i named "Pre-TBC Junk"`
`16:12.06`	`kenlyric`	`I bogarted some of those.`
`16:12.11`	`Matrix110`	`ill just use my old clearfont just using my old design.lua didnt work`
`16:12.12`	`Matrix110`	`:P`
`16:12.17`	`vhaarr`	`we keep ZG bijous and coins as well`
`16:12.18`	`Xinhuan`	`and then i threw the MC Sulfuron hammer plans in it`
`16:12.21`	`vhaarr`	`it's needed to rep up new tanks`
`16:12.21`	`Xinhuan`	`along with 6 ingots`
`16:12.24`	`vhaarr`	`for the enchant`
`16:12.26`	`Xinhuan`	`and a bunch of MC cores`
`16:12.33`	`Fisker-`	`[10:50:41] <CIA-8> rabbit * r55421 ClearFont2/Core.lua: ClearFont2: Support LibSharedMedia-2.0.`
`16:12.47`	`fridgid`	`which event is the best to watch for player faction changes?`
`16:12.51`	`kenlyric`	`vhaarr: sick in the head.`
`16:13.03`	`fridgid`	`UPDATE_FACTION?`
`16:13.03`	`vhaarr`	`kenlyric: it pwns the CoT tanking enchant down in the pants`
`16:13.06`	`Xinhuan`	`CHAT_MSG_Rep_or_something ?`
`16:13.09`	`vhaarr`	`kenlyric: and you just need friendly for it`
`16:13.19`	`kenlyric`	`vhaarr: I SUPPOSE.`
`16:13.25`	`kenlyric`	`still, these people don't need it :)`
`16:13.37`	`vhaarr`	`well we don't need it I suppose`
`16:13.41`	`vhaarr`	`but we run ZG now and then for fun anyway`
`16:13.43`	`vhaarr`	`for the mounts`
`16:13.52`	`vhaarr`	`so we just keep them and get new tanks friendly in the process`
`16:14.07`	`fridgid`	`ahh found it CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_FACTION_CHANGE, ty Xinhuan`
`16:14.07`	`kenlyric`	`going to have the guild leader make me the punisher of all wickedness.`
`16:14.14`	`Fisker-`	`why do they need to be friendly?`
`16:14.23`	`kenlyric`	`No, Netherweave Bandage book does not need to be there.`
`16:14.33`	`CIA-8`	`03funkydude * r55448 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Halazzi.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: Zul'Aman: esES update by geran`
`16:14.34`	`vhaarr`	`Fisker-: for the ZG head tanking enchant, you need to be friendly to get it.`
`16:14.48`	`Fisker-`	`is it better than the tbc stuff?`
`16:14.53`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`16:14.55`	`Fisker-`	`link me`
`16:15.00`	`vhaarr`	`+10sta/+10def/+15 block`
`16:15.06`	`vhaarr`	`vs +17 def/+16 dodge`
`16:15.07`	`vhaarr`	`or something`
`16:15.59`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, it's still best by far. If you want to absolutely max out.`
`16:16.10`	`vhaarr`	`and it's easy to get, so why not get it`
`16:16.13`	`Pkekyo`	`!points 1400`
`16:16.13`	`Xinhuan`	`1400 arena points require 2414(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.`
`16:16.26`	`kenlyric`	`well, once the coins and bijous run out...`
`16:16.58`	`kenlyric`	`infinite?`
`16:17.01`	`Pkekyo`	`!rating 1400`
`16:17.01`	`Xinhuan`	`1400 rating gives 322(5s), 283(3s) and 244(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`16:17.10`	`Xinhuan`	`those coins are aoe-farmable`
`16:17.15`	`Xinhuan`	`like crocs, tigers and stuff`
`16:17.16`	`Fisker-`	`!points over 9000`
`16:17.16`	`Xinhuan`	`over is not a number, idiot.`
`16:17.18`	`Provus`	`I have too many damn keybindings.`
`16:17.20`	`kenlyric`	`they take more than 5 minutes.`
`16:17.21`	`Fisker-`	`fuck you faggot`
`16:17.22`	`fridgid`	`anybody know the event when a character changes watched faction? UNIT_FACTION or UPDATE_FACTION?`
`16:17.31`	`kenlyric`	`ZG is death!`
`16:17.42`	`Xinhuan`	`try !points one`
`16:17.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`its not UNIT_FACTION`
`16:17.43`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
`16:17.58`	`Xinhuan`	`it'll tell you "one is not a number" because i'm lazy to code something that can understand english ;p`
`16:18.29`	`Ellipsis`	`!points your mom`
`16:18.30`	`Xinhuan`	`your is not a number, idiot.`
`16:18.38`	`Ellipsis`	`=[`
`16:18.42`	`Ellipsis`	`now I'm offended`
`16:18.47`	`kenlyric`	`!rating your mom`
`16:18.47`	`Xinhuan`	`your is not a number, idiot.`
`16:18.56`	`CIA-8`	`03laric * r55449 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP.toc dkp_list.lua embeds.xml libs/):`
`16:18.56`	`CIA-8`	`AoFDKP :`
`16:18.56`	`CIA-8`	`- updated toc`
`16:18.56`	`CIA-8`	`- some cleanup`
`16:18.56`	`CIA-8`	`- changed to embeds.xml`
`16:19.21`	`Ellipsis`	`sigh`
`16:19.36`	`Ellipsis`	`leveling alts is so boring :(`
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`16:22.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`vhaarr`
`16:22.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`stop being a dick`
`16:22.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and remove the force disable of swatter from bugsack and add the message ckknight added back in`
`16:23.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`or i'll come to your house and stab you`
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`16:25.36`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, turns out making the leveling path be 25% faster still makes it 75% boring.`
`16:25.47`	`Ellipsis`	`indeed`
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`16:26.40`	`SunTsu`	`And you do less quests and kill less mobs, so you make less money`
`16:26.50`	`kenlyric`	`meh.`
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`16:28.03`	`Xinhuan`	`you spend less time to lvl up of course`
`16:28.07`	`Xinhuan`	`you will earn less money`
`16:28.15`	`Ellipsis`	`I don't mind not earning as much money`
`16:28.28`	`Ellipsis`	`the money from 60->70 is the important part anyway`
`16:28.31`	`kenlyric`	`well, once I get to 30 and the quest drops start improving, i'll spend less too.`
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`16:31.11`	`CIA-8`	`03nevcairiel * r55450 10Cartographer1/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer1: add boss notes for all remaining black temple bosses. position _may_ be off due to the multi layer map really making it hard to spot certain areas.`
`16:31.25`	`SunTsu`	`kenlyric: But you won't make it to have your alts buy them their own mounts, at least not if you won't have things to craft that sell real good in AH`
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`16:32.26`	`kenlyric`	`sure I will`
`16:32.35`	`kenlyric`	`skin + mine = $`
`16:33.06`	`kenlyric`	`never had any trouble by far of buying 75/150/225 mounts at level.`
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`16:34.32`	`SunTsu`	`I just have 4 alts, the first one turned 40 yesterday, I had to buy the mount with my main's gold. The only one who will not need my main's gold is my warlock, for obvious reasons ;)`
`16:34.39`	`Tinyboom`	`anyone else have the pitbull bug with party still showing in bg-raids?`
`16:35.02`	`NE\|Amenti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:35.27`	`NE\|Amenti`	`Since i updated i have 'interaction lines' wich i cannot find the option to turn it off for :(`
`16:36.13`	`Ellipsis`	`disable the InteractLines module`
`16:37.32`	`NE\|Amenti`	`do i change that ingame?`
`16:37.38`	`Josh_Borke`	`wb ckknight`
`16:37.40`	`dylanm`	`You can.`
`16:38.03`	`NE\|Amenti`	`And how exactly do i do that? i got deucecommander open but i can only set the colors of it`
`16:38.05`	`Ellipsis`	`I recommend just disabling it from the character screen`
`16:38.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis`
`16:38.35`	`Ellipsis`	`but to do it ingame, go to your pitbull options -> modules -> uncheck interact lines`
`16:38.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i have to get a group for ramparts heroic`
`16:38.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`could you please continue to stab vhaarr for me?`
`16:38.40`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: I'll go`
`16:38.42`	`Ellipsis`	`:x`
`16:39.02`	`Ellipsis`	`no, I'm not going to get into the swatter edrama, sorry`
`16:39.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: okay learn german and US-->EU transfer to Gul'dan`
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`16:39.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`16:39.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`don't tell him why`
`16:39.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`just keep stabbing hinm`
`16:39.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*gim`
`16:39.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:/`
`16:39.22`	`Ellipsis`	`fail`
`16:39.27`	`vhaarr`	`I can read, you know.`
`16:39.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`*him`
`16:39.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`vhaarr i don't care`
`16:39.53`	`Josh_Borke`	`vhaarr: liar`
`16:40.18`	`vhaarr`	`yeah josh got me, my mother is reading it for me :(`
`16:40.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`either stop being a dick and change it so MentalPower helps me redirect stubby's errors into bugsack, or become an even bigger dick and intercept stubbys error messages so they go into bugsack as well`
`16:40.41`	`vhaarr`	`sag_ich_nicht: I've been here what, 2 years? When have I ever NOT been a dick.`
`16:40.44`	`vhaarr`	`stop wasting your time`
`16:40.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`vhaarr`
`16:40.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i don't think you've been paying a lot of attention`
`16:41.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because i will just keep on bugging you about it`
`16:41.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`FOREVER.`
`16:41.17`	`vhaarr`	`I'll just ignore you then, that's fine.`
`16:41.46`	`vhaarr`	`but yeah I could intercept stubbys errors I guess`
`16:42.04`	`vhaarr`	`I'll have to take a look at that`
`16:42.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i still think you're a dick for having that disable in there, but if i can get you to catch stubby's errors instead of havin them spam my chat frame, that's fine too :P`
`16:42.46`	`kenlyric`	`http://ace.pastey.net/77610`
`16:43.05`	`vhaarr`	`sag_ich_nicht: I'll take a look at that, it annoys me as well that they're not caught by bugsack`
`16:43.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it's because they added a wrapper to it so the errors don't stop execution`
`16:44.03`	`vhaarr`	`yeah I see that`
`16:44.10`	`vhaarr`	`have to make dinner now, bbl`
`16:44.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`MentalPower won't be glad about this, and i still stand on his side, but at least this gets fixed :P`
`16:45.37`	`kenlyric`	`I guess maybe I missed the point of why it's a good idea to actively violate previous compromises between mod authors. But, I'm also out of popcorn.`
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`16:46.01`	`Xinhuan`	`what, swatter has errors itself?`
`16:46.08`	`Xinhuan`	`that bugsack can't catch?`
`16:46.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`16:46.13`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`16:46.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not swatter`
`16:46.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`stubby`
`16:46.15`	`nevcairiel`	`stubby has`
`16:46.16`	`kenlyric`	`I mean, we don't even break KTM vindictively.`
`16:46.27`	`Xinhuan`	`oh stubby`
`16:46.41`	`Xinhuan`	`doesn't stubby have its own error catcher, uses pcall or something?`
`16:46.46`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`16:46.49`	`nevcairiel`	`and spams the chatframe`
`16:46.54`	`nevcairiel`	`thats what annoying him :OP`
`16:47.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[17:45] <kenlyric> I guess maybe I missed the point of why it's a good idea to actively violate previous compromises between mod authors. But, I'm also out of popcorn. <--vhaarr's argumentation is that it's a conscious choice to install bugsack`
`16:47.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:X`
`16:47.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[17:46] <Xinhuan> doesn't stubby have its own error catcher, uses pcall or something? <--which goes to swatter, and if swatter isn't there, it goes to ChatFrame1`
`16:47.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`which is damn annoying`
`16:47.59`	`Xinhuan`	`how does it skip buggrabber`
`16:48.01`	`kenlyric`	`sag_ich_nicht: stop being sensible!`
`16:48.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`especially from tooltip bugs where moving the mouse a bit from one item to the other causes millions of messages`
`16:48.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Xinhuan: it's not a blizzard error message`
`16:48.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it's wrapped`
`16:48.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so it doesn't stop execution`
`16:48.29`	`Xinhuan`	`i see`
`16:48.39`	`Xinhuan`	`so unless you hook stubby`
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`16:48.48`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't see it being "fixable"`
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`16:49.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Xinhuan well DUH so make bugsack grab stubbys messages and supress them from being shown in chatframe1`
`16:49.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`or something like that`
`16:49.57`	`thul`	`hmm, do differen tthreat meters use the same codec/thing or can't i use others if the raid uses ktm?`
`16:50.04`	`Xinhuan`	`that would require bugsack hooking chatframe1`
`16:50.31`	`Xinhuan`	`or like i said, require bugsack hooking stubby to stop it from sending messages to CF1`
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`16:52.45`	`Ellipsis`	`ahaha`
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`16:52.52`	`Ellipsis`	`two dead trolls in the middle of SW`
`16:52.56`	`Ellipsis`	`"happybday" and "joeyw"`
`16:52.58`	`Ellipsis`	`that's kinda cute`
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`16:55.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lol`
`16:55.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nice`
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`16:57.45`	`fridgid`	`i put a dead gnome in the middle fo thralls room once called Mjisguilty`
`16:57.48`	`fridgid`	`back during the trial`
`16:57.54`	`fridgid`	`gms removed it : /`
`16:57.59`	`Ellipsis`	`haha`
`16:58.18`	`fridgid`	`afk going to neverland!`
`16:59.37`	`RaydenUni`	`not the funny farm?`
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`17:00.16`	`fridgid`	`i'm going to hang with blanket`
`17:00.18`	`fridgid`	`were bros`
`17:01.15`	`thul`	`ktm is buggy :-(`
`17:01.31`	`Matrix110`	`dont use it?`
`17:02.45`	`dylanm`	`Sounds like an omen to me.`
`17:02.50`	`SunTsu`	`thul: Just use omen - as anybody does with a sane mind`
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`17:03.31`	`Ellipsis`	`dylanm: I see what you did there`
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`17:06.30`	`thul`	`SunTsu: well, if the rest of the guild uses ktm, does omen work? :-P`
`17:06.41`	`Ellipsis`	`...yes`
`17:06.54`	`SunTsu`	`thul: Sure`
`17:07.00`	`thul`	`:-D`
`17:07.04`	`Ellipsis`	`it will receive ktm data (although of course the ktm data won't be as accurate as the omen data, so there might be slight differences)`
`17:07.19`	`thul`	`:-D`
`17:07.22`	`thul`	`my life is saved.`
`17:07.22`	`SunTsu`	`thul: Not as good as if everybody was using omen, but it still works`
`17:08.02`	`SunTsu`	`Just bug your guild to convert them all to omen slowly ;)`
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`17:08.40`	`thul`	`hehe`
`17:08.45`	`thul`	`well, ZA-raid is saved.`
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`17:19.16`	`CIA-8`	`03snago * r55451 10ClearFont2/Core.lua:`
`17:19.16`	`CIA-8`	`ClearFont2:`
`17:19.16`	`CIA-8`	`- Made Default (Calibri v1) the default font again`
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`17:23.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`lua> for i=1,0 do print(i) end`
`17:23.20`	`lua_bot`	`Arrowmaster:`
`17:23.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`lua> for i=1,0 do print(i) end print("_")`
`17:23.44`	`lua_bot`	`Arrowmaster: _`
`17:26.36`	`Paradox`	`anyone know an addon that can let me move frames around the screen and resize them ? anything that isn't visor or moveanything`
`17:26.53`	`Fisker-`	`vhaarr`
`17:26.55`	`Fisker-`	`you got owned`
`17:28.24`	`Industrial`	`Paradox: :SetPoint() :P`
`17:28.52`	`Industrial`	`18:19 < CIA-8> - Made Default (Calibri v1) the default font again`
`17:28.55`	`Industrial`	`did he discuss this?`
`17:28.58`	`Industrial`	`forum post?`
`17:29.01`	`Paradox`	`?`
`17:29.12`	`Industrial`	`Paradox: make your own addon that sets the frames`
`17:29.20`	`Paradox`	`I don't know how`
`17:29.26`	`Industrial`	`well, uh, learn.`
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`17:30.19`	`Industrial`	`thats like why we are in here`
`17:30.25`	`Industrial`	`wow addons :P`
`17:30.26`	`Paradox`	`yeah i'll learn how to code just to make a simple addon that I would download`
`17:30.51`	`Industrial`	`ofcourse, because then you can go and do stuff you wouldnt have been able to do before`
`17:31.03`	`Industrial`	`give me any reason besides "it hard" and "i'm lazy"`
`17:31.08`	`Ellipsis`	`Industrial, shut up and make addons!`
`17:31.12`	`Industrial`	`It's*`
`17:31.15`	`Ellipsis`	`l2helpusers4once`
`17:31.45`	`Industrial`	`I help interested people that want to learn. Not people that just hold up their hand.`
`17:31.52`	`Ellipsis`	`hay`
`17:31.56`	`Ellipsis`	`<---see who's talking`
`17:32.05`	`Industrial`	`well im not helping you :D?`
`17:32.10`	`Industrial`	`~rimshot`
`17:32.11`	`purl`	`ba-dum CHH`
`17:32.15`	`nevcairiel`	`Industrial: calibri v1 has always been the default, only due to a mistake that was lost when upgrading to SharedMediaLib 2.0 :P`
`17:32.22`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm saying, that was a joke`
`17:32.24`	`balstor`	`bop on the tank GG`
`17:32.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`lua> local num = 131200 return math.fmod(num, 1024), math.fmod(math.floor(num / 1024), 1024), math.fmod(math.floor(num / 1048576), 1024), math.floor(num / 1073741824)`
`17:32.45`	`lua_bot`	`Arrowmaster: 128, 128, 0, 0`
`17:33.19`	`Industrial`	`nevcairiel: Just wondering if it was a fix :)`
`17:34.02`	`Industrial`	`Paradox: however we CAN help you with your addons.`
`17:34.37`	`durcyn`	`Industrial really just wants to give the world a hug.`
`17:34.56`	`Industrial`	`Paradox: start here: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Beginners_Guide`
`17:36.11`	`Industrial`	`durcyn: you will all die a horrible death etc`
`17:36.22`	`Ellipsis`	`even me? =[`
`17:36.27`	`Industrial`	`cept Ellipsis`
`17:36.38`	`Ellipsis`	`aww, you really do love me! <3`
`17:36.39`	`kenlyric`	`sexism`
`17:37.02`	`Industrial`	`text over the internet.`
`17:37.17`	`kenlyric`	`stop failing, you fucking assertion`
`17:37.17`	`Ellipsis`	`srs business.`
`17:37.25`	`durcyn`	`wait, i thought ellipsis was an fbi agent?`
`17:37.28`	`Industrial`	`And now I must prepare dinner (I really mean poison muhaha).`
`17:37.30`	`Ellipsis`	`shhh durcyn`
`17:37.31`	`nevcairiel`	`kenlyric: still the LSM stuff?`
`17:37.39`	`kenlyric`	`nevcairiel: yes`
`17:37.48`	`nevcairiel`	`thats a error in an addon`
`17:37.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i guess`
`17:37.54`	`kenlyric`	`I can't figure out what fires it. Something during combat.`
`17:38.02`	`nevcairiel`	`it expects the first two arguments to be strings`
`17:38.06`	`nevcairiel`	`and checks that with asserts`
`17:38.10`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid design`
`17:38.15`	`nevcairiel`	`half-finished code`
`17:38.49`	`kenlyric`	`would the media be used in bars?`
`17:39.45`	`CIA-8`	`03cossy * r55452 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.lua AutoTurnin.toc):`
`17:39.45`	`CIA-8`	`AutoTurnin:`
`17:39.45`	`CIA-8`	`- removed getn() again`
`17:39.45`	`CIA-8`	`- ZGHandler() updated`
`17:39.47`	`nevcairiel`	`statsbars, fonts, whatdoiknow`
`17:39.51`	`nevcairiel`	`*statusbars`
`17:40.06`	`kenlyric`	`I just wonder if it's a parrot issue.`
`17:40.42`	`kenlyric`	`it's almost certainly questfu or parrot or pitbull.`
`17:40.55`	`nevcairiel`	`questsfu doesnt do anything with that stuff`
`17:41.00`	`nevcairiel`	`afaik, anyway`
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`17:43.40`	`kenlyric`	`i also can't figure out why arkinv cares about CG`
`17:44.01`	`Ellipsis`	`to sort items by sets?`
`17:44.25`	`kenlyric`	`I didn't even know it had that option.`
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`17:53.43`	`Civrock`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9988.0 - If anybody's interested in some troubleshooting.`
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`18:09.04`	`NeoTron`	`yesterday I MT'd karazhan... on my pally`
`18:09.23`	`NeoTron`	`it's the first time ever I tank anything except some minor stuff on a druid pre-BC`
`18:12.06`	`thul`	`nice`
`18:12.14`	`thul`	`holy shield spam? :-P`
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`18:13.34`	`NeoTron`	`well yes`
`18:13.45`	`NeoTron`	`I got enough badges to get my badge libram`
`18:13.48`	`NeoTron`	`it was fun though`
`18:13.51`	`NeoTron`	`we only ran with 2 healers`
`18:13.54`	`thul`	`hehe`
`18:14.30`	`thul`	`we're doing ZA tonight, my first run, yehaw`
`18:14.30`	`NeoTron`	`shoul say that in my runs healing Kara I've picked up a full epic set of tank gear except belt`
`18:14.30`	`NeoTron`	`so I wasn't exactly underequipped`
`18:14.30`	`thul`	`but right now I'm lvling paladin alt.. and my question is: does HoW get much better?`
`18:14.34`	`thul`	`for at lvl 61 i crit for 1600-2000`
`18:14.44`	`thul`	`if it gets much better than that, it must be love in pvp :-P`
`18:15.46`	`NeoTron`	`well.. anything tht does damage does more damage as you level / gear up no?`
`18:15.53`	`thul`	`true`
`18:16.04`	`thul`	`I just wonder ho wmuch better.`
`18:16.19`	`thul`	`or, not always true, my rogue evissc for less now than he did pre tbc :-P`
`18:16.22`	`CIA-8`	`ow`
`18:16.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`...`
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`18:18.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`cia delayed now or something?`
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`18:20.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`well i fixed another cartographer bug with 2.3`
`18:21.33`	`Gngsk`	`omg srs? commit! plzxx`
`18:22.00`	`kenlyric`	`that's probably what "fixed" means.`
`18:22.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`i did commit`
`18:22.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`cia just isnt reporting it`
`18:22.43`	`\|Stan\|`	`http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk?cs=55453`
`18:22.45`	`\|Stan\|`	`it's there`
`18:22.57`	`CIA-8`	`03hegarol * r55454 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`18:22.57`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances :`
`18:22.57`	`CIA-8`	`- New TimedChest item`
`18:23.01`	`Tinyboom`	`anyone care to fix the silly pitbull bug too? :p bg raids still show the party... but regular raids work fine:)`
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`18:36.52`	`NeoTron`	`I wonder how you're supposed to do bloodboil without a threat meter`
`18:37.09`	`NeoTron`	`I wonder if it isn't another fight designed in such a way because ppl do use threat meters`
`18:37.15`	`thul`	`hmm, any ret-pvp palas here?`
`18:37.27`	`NeoTron`	`I know one :P`
`18:37.39`	`Jops`	`I tried .. but failed :<`
`18:37.48`	`thul`	`hmm, how much does SoC proc for with s2 2h gladiator sword/mace?`
`18:37.52`	`felirx`	`NeoTron: use trang air and tell shadowpriests to not use ve and I guess it would work`
`18:38.04`	`NeoTron`	`heh we do use tranq air (4 shamans)`
`18:38.20`	`NeoTron`	`we told priests to stop with VE and we don't DPS for the entire first blood boil phase`
`18:38.24`	`durcyn`	`should put wfury in tank group, more useful than tranq air`
`18:38.30`	`NeoTron`	`however I was mostly thinking about the tank rotation itself`
`18:38.38`	`NeoTron`	`oh good idea`
`18:38.41`	`felirx`	`not if2 og your tanks are bears or protpala`
`18:38.58`	`NeoTron`	`we don't use the prot pally for this fight`
`18:39.01`	`durcyn`	`we use two warriors and a bear, wfury is still useful`
`18:39.06`	`NeoTron`	`we use that now`
`18:39.09`	`NeoTron`	`used rather`
`18:39.14`	`NeoTron`	`next time likely 1 warrior 2 bears`
`18:39.27`	`felirx`	`thul: with cataclysm's edge and ~1800 attack power with might something around 800 and 1k hit perhaps`
`18:40.18`	`thul`	`I hit for about 600-700 and crit for 1200-1300 at lvl 61`
`18:40.22`	`thul`	`with 1000 ap`
`18:40.32`	`thul`	`and blade of misfortune`
`18:40.36`	`thul`	`they surely must hit more than that :-(`
`18:40.39`	`ulic`	`do folks in here use anything for logging who get's which epics in instances? just for informational sake not for dkp.`
`18:40.40`	`thul`	`or does it scale badly?`
`18:40.49`	`felirx`	`nah, that's "normal"`
`18:41.06`	`felirx`	`i've seen 2,5k+ white crits on 0resi cloth users without wings and such`
`18:41.30`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`Flying is simple... You just throw yourself at the ground and miss!`
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`18:42.12`	`Hjalte`	`ulic, i used nrt for that for a while`
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`18:44.29`	`ulic`	`thanks I'll check it out.`
`18:44.49`	`Ellipsis`	`Pkekyo\|rst: <3`
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`18:51.36`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`Ellipsis: hai2u`
`18:51.43`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`someone come do my midterms for me`
`18:51.55`	`Ellipsis`	`I will`
`18:51.58`	`NivFreak`	`confirmed, 22 badges from a Karazhan full clear`
`18:51.59`	`Ellipsis`	`wait, what are they on?`
`18:52.05`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`I'm so fucking sick of norse litterature you can't even imagine...`
`18:52.05`	`NivFreak`	`makes running kara worth it!`
`18:52.31`	`Amadeo`	`I've been learning about Norway from Snickers commercials`
`18:52.47`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`NivFreak: indeed`
`18:53.15`	`NivFreak`	`3 hours for 22 badges is pretty nice`
`18:53.23`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`Ellipsis: wanna do my norse litterature midterms for me? :)`
`18:53.37`	`Ellipsis`	`well, it probably wouldn't go so well`
`18:53.42`	`Ellipsis`	`I can barely read norwegian :(`
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`18:53.48`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`heh`
`18:53.50`	`Amadeo`	`Feast!`
`18:53.59`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`is a shitty movie`
`18:54.15`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`Ellipsis: It's not going so well here either...I hate mythology`
`18:56.10`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`writing a three page essay about norse litterature and/or mythology is the hardest assignment I've ever gotten`
`18:56.34`	`NivFreak`	`just writ Thor REALLY big`
`18:56.37`	`NivFreak`	`write`
`18:57.15`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`hahah`
`18:57.32`	`Ellipsis`	`Pkekyo\|rst: have you read the long dark teatime of the soul?`
`18:57.43`	`Ellipsis`	`if so, I think you get where I'm going with this`
`18:57.51`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`if it weren't my last year.... can't afford to fail this midterm though`
`18:57.56`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`Ellipsis: haven't`
`18:58.17`	`Ellipsis`	`bah, pity`
`18:58.39`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`kinda stopped reading litterature a year ago`
`18:58.45`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`not quite sure why`
`18:59.04`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`gonna read 1984 again soon though, methinks`
`18:59.23`	`Pkekyo\|rst`	`good book`
`18:59.40`	`kenlyric`	`do an audio version.`
`19:00.02`	`kenlyric`	`such an excellent way to re-acquaint yourself with something you've already read.`
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`19:02.33`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hmm...maybe I'll try that`
`19:03.03`	`Pkekyo\|`	`btw, anyone got articles, sources etc on stuff like "boy plays violent videogame and then kills someone" etc? raging christian fanatics is a plus...`
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`19:05.13`	`kenlyric`	`if you can, find the one narrated by Frank Muller. So very well done. Even thinking of the last line of the book still gives me chills.`
`19:05.51`	`Pkekyo\|`	`kenlyric: 1984 or raging christian fanatics?`
`19:05.57`	`kenlyric`	`1984.`
`19:06.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`had me puzzled there for a min`
`19:06.10`	`kenlyric`	`though oddly enough he does do the audiobooks for most of the Left Behind series too.`
`19:06.18`	`kenlyric`	`or did. He doesn't work anymore :(`
`19:06.23`	`Pkekyo\|`	`left behind?`
`19:06.41`	`kenlyric`	`if you don't know, then be happy and joyful.`
`19:07.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`that bad?`
`19:07.51`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I once read a book about a zebra going on a murderous rampage O.o now that's crappy lit`
`19:07.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`-if you can even call it that`
`19:09.24`	`Pkekyo\|`	`thanks for the tip Lukian, it's appreciated`
`19:09.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`though I can't access the url you gave me...is it a texas IP?`
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`19:11.27`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I hate canal digital`
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`19:12.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`when was google bought by yahoo?`
`19:12.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`err...what time is it stateside?`
`19:14.25`	`Paene`	`Is there any way to tell what school of magic a spell is?`
`19:14.45`	`Ellipsis`	`11:15am PST, Pkekyo\|`
`19:14.51`	`Paene`	`and it's 2:14pm in the EST`
`19:15.06`	`Paene`	`Ellipsis is living in the past`
`19:15.10`	`Ellipsis`	`=[`
`19:15.12`	`Pkekyo\|`	`makes sense then...I guess...`
`19:15.14`	`Pkekyo\|`	`rofl Paene`
`19:15.17`	`Ellipsis`	`but it's still somebody's future`
`19:15.20`	`Paene`	`lol`
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`19:17.38`	`Pkekyo\|`	`11.15am sounds like my future`
`19:17.39`	`fishbot2`	`does cal sit on here?`
`19:17.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`cal?`
`19:17.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`~seen cal`
`19:17.42`	`purl`	`cal <i=cal@yossman.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 145d 19h 56m 40s ago, saying: 'simon: yeah i am thinking of wiping the whole thing and going with debian or ubuntu. that will be a weekend worth of work though =)'.`
`19:17.43`	`fishbot2`	`there's someone called cal on /whois but he seems to be invisible`
`19:17.43`	`Amadeo`	`Maybe he's a Rogue`
`19:17.43`	`fishbot2`	`maybe`
`19:17.43`	`ckknight`	`what's a good code editor for Linux?`
`19:17.43`	`fishbot2`	`nano`
`19:17.43`	`evl`	`vi`
`19:17.43`	`evl`	`m`
`19:17.43`	`ckknight`	`graphical`
`19:17.48`	`ckknight`	`I use GUIs in the twentieth century`
`19:17.49`	`sb`	`ckknight \o\`
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`19:17.52`	`felirx`	`probably kdev, anjuta or devc++ or something`
`19:17.55`	`sb`	`\o/`
`19:17.56`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Blasphemy!`
`19:18.01`	`felirx`	`or gemacs!`
`19:18.02`	`sb`	`ckknight: you are back? :)`
`19:18.07`	`cryogen`	`ckknight: depends what you're coding in`
`19:18.09`	`Pkekyo\|`	`purl's slow tonight`
`19:18.20`	`fishbot2`	`well moving the hand to the mouse uses valuable programming time`
`19:18.23`	`ckknight`	`cryogen: lua, some other stuff`
`19:18.42`	`cryogen`	`then you probably want something more generic`
`19:18.47`	`cryogen`	`like um, damn cant remember`
`19:19.51`	`CIA-8`	`03eldurias * r55456 10obRaidAssist/ (22 files in 2 dirs):`
`19:19.51`	`CIA-8`	`obRaidAssist:`
`19:19.51`	`CIA-8`	`- change some local-de translations`
`19:20.22`	`felirx`	`i think kdev is the most "msvc" like of the bunch?`
`19:20.32`	`Josh_Borke`	`ckknight: gvim :-D`
`19:20.37`	`cryogen`	`ah ye, kdev is ok`
`19:21.21`	`\|Stan\|`	`bloodboil down`
`19:22.22`	`ckknight`	`to give context, I'm used to TextMate for Mac`
`19:25.13`	`Tuller`	`there are no good code editors for linux :)`
`19:25.13`	`sb`	`ckknight? :o`
`19:25.13`	`durcyn`	`vim's lua highlighting is more than sufficient`
`19:25.13`	`duaiwe`	`ckknight: http://grigio.org/textmate_gedit_few_steps`
`19:25.13`	`duaiwe`	`dammit.`
`19:25.29`	`ckknight`	`ooh, nice`
`19:25.35`	`ckknight`	`also, I'm not fond of vim`
`19:25.40`	`Belazor`	`So who here wants to rant abit about how WoWUI now stoeles the WoWAce mods to their site? ;p I'm bored, feed me some drama plx.`
`19:25.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`vim is nice for quick and dirty editing`
`19:26.07`	`ckknight`	`yea, but I don't want to learn about :wq! and all that`
`19:26.18`	`ckknight`	`and the modalism itself just seems gaudy`
`19:26.23`	`ckknight`	`it's hardly a modern app`
`19:26.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`meh, if you know how to get into insert mode, and understand :wq, you're pretty well off`
`19:27.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, it's hardly modern. the only real advantage is that you can do basically everything straight from the keyboard. I find for basic editing, you really only need to know a small number of commands.`
`19:28.12`	`Amadeo`	`in vim you type more commands than actual code!`
`19:28.22`	`Tuller`	`gedit is in theory your best bet if you just want a plain old editor, or scite?`
`19:28.35`	`ckknight`	`I think I'll go with gedit`
`19:28.38`	`ckknight`	`I used it back in the day`
`19:28.41`	`ulic`	`but can they do regex?`
`19:28.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Ska is highly underrated`
`19:28.55`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: are you in gnome or kde?`
`19:28.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ulic: pfah, any good editor these days does regex`
`19:29.01`	`ckknight`	`gnome, Amadeo`
`19:29.02`	`ckknight`	`Ubuntu`
`19:29.08`	`Amadeo`	`should already have it then!`
`19:29.53`	`balstor`	`cncfanatics needs to hurry up and level that toon`
`19:30.03`	`cncfanatics`	`balstor ?`
`19:30.05`	`Tuller`	`I swear the lua highlighting in gedit is off though`
`19:30.06`	`cncfanatics`	`ah`
`19:30.09`	`cncfanatics`	`lvl 64 atm :p`
`19:30.10`	`cncfanatics`	`6 to go`
`19:30.12`	`Tuller`	`since it freaks out at underscores`
`19:31.16`	`ckknight`	`well, I need it for more than just lua`
`19:31.24`	`ckknight`	`hush-hush, though`
`19:31.28`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`19:31.45`	`ckknight`	`also, I'm surprised by the modernization of Ubuntu now`
`19:31.50`	`ckknight`	`things seem to actually work nicely`
`19:31.55`	`fishbot2`	`how it's actually useful? :p`
`19:31.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its come a pretty long way`
`19:32.10`	`ckknight`	`installed 3d drivers easily, compiz works nicely (no real setup involved)`
`19:32.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hm, "it's come pretty far" would have been a better phrasing on that. >.>`
`19:32.23`	`ckknight`	`I've yet to do a crucial admin task with the command line`
`19:32.26`	`fishbot2`	`if only my ATi drivers worked without hanging my machine with wow`
`19:32.31`	`fishbot2`	`I could dump windows`
`19:32.46`	`ckknight`	`fishbot2: imho, that's a matter of time, with AMD releasing specs`
`19:32.48`	`durcyn`	`"<fishbot2> if only ATI drivers worked"`
`19:33.25`	`fishbot2`	`well I have a uberhigh powered workstation chipset in my laptop`
`19:33.29`	`fishbot2`	`and they never release drivers for it`
`19:33.29`	`CIA-8`	`03antiarc * r55457 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua:`
`19:33.29`	`CIA-8`	`Threat-1.0:`
`19:33.29`	`CIA-8`	`- Remove 2.3 branching from the Shaman module, make it the default code.`
`19:34.00`	`fishbot2`	`softmodding the card is somewhat harder under linux`
`19:34.09`	`fishbot2`	`(softmodding it down :(`
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`19:37.31`	`Nefarion`	`how complete is AckisRecipeList?`
`19:41.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`we should have a midterm on norse litterature-bot here`
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`19:44.34`	`CIA-8`	`03mikk 07Ace3 * r55458 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua:`
`19:44.34`	`CIA-8`	`ag_UnitFrames:`
`19:44.34`	`CIA-8`	`- Fix some AceOptions syntax errors caught by new verifier`
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`19:54.51`	`Paradox`	`does omen know about pallies threat reduction yet`
`19:54.58`	`Lukian`	`yes`
`19:55.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`omen doesn't, threat-1.0 does`
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`19:56.00`	`Lukian`	`http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Threat-1.0`
`19:56.06`	`Lukian`	`21 hours ago`
`19:56.28`	`Poul\|Raider`	`if i have something like test = {} function test:testme() print("LOL") end test:new() local self; setmetatable(self,test); return self; end; should local newtest = test:new() not have the newtest:testme() ??`
`19:56.49`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`19:56.56`	`Poul\|Raider`	`:(`
`19:57.03`	`[Ammo]`	`your issue is with local self`
`19:57.16`	`Poul\|Raider`	`ok?`
`19:57.33`	`[Ammo]`	`function test:new() return setmetatable({}, test) end`
`19:58.05`	`Poul\|Raider`	`i actuly had local self = {};`
`19:58.08`	`Poul\|Raider`	`sorry`
`19:58.11`	`Poul\|Raider`	`so would be the same?`
`19:58.34`	`Lukian`	`Paradox, actually it was done 4 days ago, but it had a bug :)`
`19:59.30`	`[Ammo]`	`if you do what I do it'll work`
`19:59.32`	`[Ammo]`	`afaik`
`20:00.19`	`Poul\|Raider`	`oki`
`20:00.29`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm slightly intoxicated pausing in a dinner with friends`
`20:00.38`	`Poul\|Raider`	`:D`
`20:00.44`	`[Ammo]`	`waiting for them to finish the pancakes with Drambui and ice`
`20:00.50`	`[Ammo]`	`so I can get more drunk`
`20:01.20`	`[Ammo]`	`oh`
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`20:01.22`	`[Ammo]`	`found the issue`
`20:01.44`	`[Ammo]`	`function test:new() return setmetatable({}, { __index = test } )`
`20:02.00`	`[Ammo]`	`damn I sluggish`
`20:02.04`	`Poul\|Raider`	`hmm`
`20:03.02`	`Pkekyo\|`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmODpYPP5nY rofl`
`20:04.29`	`CIA-8`	`03alar * r55459 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.lua:`
`20:04.29`	`CIA-8`	`AlarAutomation`
`20:04.29`	`CIA-8`	`3.0.2`
`20:04.29`	`CIA-8`	`Feature: Embedded Library upgrade`
`20:04.41`	`Poul\|Raider`	`ye [Ammo], i just missed the test.__index = test dont realy know why i deleted it`
`20:05.02`	`Ellipsis`	`rofl @ that commit`
`20:05.37`	`cncfanatics`	`that alar is sad`
`20:06.39`	`[Ammo]`	`it's all in the eye of the beholdefr`
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`20:07.25`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r55460 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files):`
`20:07.25`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`20:07.25`	`CIA-8`	`- Fix for Heavy Copper Longsword`
`20:08.10`	`CIA-8`	`03cwdg * r55461 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`20:08.10`	`CIA-8`	`Babble-2.2:`
`20:08.10`	`CIA-8`	`-update zhCN bosses' name for 2.3`
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`20:10.55`	`Poul\|Raider`	`[Ammo], woud you then also be able to like do it nested from the first, local newtest = test:new(); local newnewtest = newtest:();`
`20:10.59`	`Poul\|Raider`	`would`
`20:11.12`	`[Ammo]`	`yes you can then also do newtest:new()`
`20:11.18`	`Fin`	`quit`
`20:11.33`	`Fin`	`hmm`
`20:11.37`	`Fin`	`in <--- that window`
`20:11.39`	`[Ammo]`	`fail fin fail :p`
`20:11.59`	`Fin`	`pesky kisd`
`20:12.01`	`Fin`	`kids!`
`20:12.06`	`Fin`	`godammit I hate this new keyboard`
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`20:13.16`	`dsire`	`hey people, is anyone having problem connecting on wow?`
`20:13.26`	`dsire`	`Should I say logging in.`
`20:14.19`	`CIA-8`	`03diablohu * r55462 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua):`
`20:14.19`	`CIA-8`	`AtlasLoot:`
`20:14.19`	`CIA-8`	`- zhCN update`
`20:15.04`	`xerawx`	`dsire: i just logged in fine`
`20:15.19`	`*** join/#wowace Kalman\| (n=delay@dhcp21.public.dc.umich.edu)`
`20:15.57`	`dsire`	`xerawx: I keep getting stuck on the logging with a screen prompting success! and then stays there`
`20:16.20`	`dsire`	`I also trying to go to the official website and it won't load up.`
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`20:16.37`	`dsire`	`Can someone please try and go there see if the page is down or something`
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`20:20.50`	`Paene`	`Anyone know how to fix this error? "Invalid Spell Slot"`
`20:21.07`	`Paene`	`just googled it, seems to be a common problem...with not posted solution`
`20:21.12`	`xerawx`	`dsire: official site loads fine`
`20:22.09`	`xerawx`	`sounds like your intertubes are in a twist`
`20:22.09`	`dsire`	`That is weird, the official site won't even load for me at all.`
`20:23.08`	`dsire`	`every other site works fine, accept for the wow website.`
`20:24.33`	`Gagorian`	`It's not that weird`
`20:24.37`	`Gagorian`	`Pretty common actually`
`20:25.23`	`balstor`	`cncfanatics hurry up with those last 6 levrls so you can fix the macro stuff :P`
`20:25.31`	`cncfanatics`	`:p`
`20:25.38`	`cncfanatics`	`I barely play lately balstor :p`
`20:26.15`	`balstor`	`BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH`
`20:26.43`	`thul`	`hmm, are there any good +hit red gems?`
`20:26.52`	`balstor`	`Going to make you eat british food unless you hurry up :)`
`20:27.15`	`dsire`	`Gagorian: What do you mean its common?`
`20:27.42`	`Gagorian`	`Routing issues etc to the wow servers`
`20:28.24`	`dsire`	`Gagorian: It was working fine for me last night and every other day. I don't see why it shouldn't today though.`
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`20:32.26`	`neenee`	`Hm. The sell-greys addon I'm using no longer works.`
`20:32.31`	`neenee`	`Time to try a different one.`
`20:32.36`	`omega`	`Automaton`
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`20:33.19`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`Autoprofitx works :)`
`20:33.45`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`wowhead down for anyone else?`
`20:34.05`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`nvm working now`
`20:34.45`	`neenee`	`I'll try Autoprofit`
`20:34.54`	`neenee`	`Automaton would overlap with some small specific addons I tuse`
`20:34.56`	`neenee`	`*use`
`20:35.29`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`can't say I'm familiar with it ^^`
`20:35.32`	`Kemayo`	`GarbageFu`
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`20:38.41`	`jeramy`	`you could just cut the code snippet out of minimalist that sells grey out and put in its own lua file if you want something that just sells greys without any extra options`
`20:38.49`	`neenee`	`neenee`
`20:38.50`	`neenee`	`ok.`
`20:39.05`	`jeramy`	`its like 24 lines or less of code`
`20:39.18`	`jeramy`	`and it works`
`20:39.51`	`Ellipsis`	`you can actually simplify it a fair bit beyond minimalist's code, even`
`20:40.18`	`jeramy`	`example?`
`20:40.37`	`Ellipsis`	`eh, I have my own little lua snippet for autovendoring/repairing`
`20:40.54`	`neenee`	`I use evl_Scavenger at the moment, which is 35 lines`
`20:41.05`	`neenee`	`But for some reason only part of my grey stuff is sold`
`20:41.11`	`sb`	`azgalor sucks :/`
`20:41.36`	`jeramy`	`in essence, all of these functions should be similar`
`20:41.42`	`neenee`	`And then my cursor changes to a cursor which looks like I've picked up one of the grey items from my bags`
`20:41.48`	`jeramy`	`do a big loop that goes through all slots in all bags`
`20:41.53`	`jeramy`	`figure out what is junk`
`20:42.00`	`jeramy`	`and usercontaineritem on what is`
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`20:42.29`	`Poul\|Raider`	`Does it mean anything in matters of performance if you declare all your variables in a table or just local var. local tbl = {} tbl.var1 = "string", tbl.var2 = "string2". or local var1 = "string1"; local var2 = "string2";`
`20:42.53`	`Pkekyo\|`	`75.126.144.66 <--- anyone got any idea where this IP belongs? (globally speaking)`
`20:43.21`	`Ellipsis`	`Pkekyo\|: you can use !iplocate <IP> to trigger my script for that`
`20:43.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`!iplocate 75.126.144.66`
`20:43.44`	`Ellipsis`	`Located 75.126.144.66 (90% Certainty) in New York, New York, United States`
`20:43.45`	`Pkekyo\|`	`cheers Ellipsis`
`20:43.50`	`Ellipsis`	`yup yup`
`20:43.59`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hmm...was guessing texas`
`20:44.35`	`Josh_Borke`	`Poul\|Raider: one uses more memory than the other`
`20:45.16`	`Ellipsis`	`Poul\|Raider: there is some overhead in creating a table, it's usually not recommended unless you have a real need for it`
`20:45.59`	`Pkekyo\|`	`spell reflect bot still here?`
`20:46.06`	`Pkekyo\|`	`noes...yay :>`
`20:46.16`	`Ellipsis`	`buubot went bye bye :(`
`20:46.32`	`jeramy`	`well, i guess the minimalist junk sell could be a little simpler`
`20:46.54`	`jeramy`	`instead of checking quality and then checking color, it could just check color in the first place`
`20:47.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Ellipsis: I don't see the problem..? :)`
`20:47.16`	`jeramy`	`i think there was a historical reason for that`
`20:47.42`	`Ellipsis`	`Pkekyo\|: it did cute things`
`20:48.02`	`Pkekyo\|`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:48.40`	`Ellipsis`	`well, yeah, the spelling thing was dumb`
`20:48.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`my ISP needs t l2routing :<`
`20:49.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`needs to*, even`
`20:53.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis`
`20:53.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wanna rewrite sprocket?`
`20:53.58`	`Pkekyo\|`	`can't be arsed to do it yourself?`
`20:54.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Pkekyo\| do you even know what sprocket is`
`20:55.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`only sprocket I know is a CyCircled layout :>`
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`20:55.55`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: I wish`
`20:55.58`	`Elgrim`	`Ellipsis honi, my pitbull expert!`
`20:56.00`	`Ellipsis`	`it's hot and all, but no`
`20:56.02`	`Elgrim`	`hello`
`20:56.05`	`Ellipsis`	`hiya Elgrim :)`
`20:56.28`	`Elgrim`	`done with my complete ui remake`
`20:56.48`	`Ellipsis`	`ooh, let's see it!`
`20:56.53`	`Elgrim`	`just making some minor tweaks.`
`20:57.02`	`Elgrim`	`ye, soon..`
`20:57.19`	`Elgrim`	`hum I know ive seen border options for pitbull`
`20:57.41`	`Elgrim`	`been looking through all the tabs trying to find it. removed? or am I just overlooking it time after time..?`
`20:58.19`	`Poul\|Raider`	`Josh_Borke, Ellipsis - > i assume that its table that uses the most memory then?`
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`20:58.36`	`Josh_Borke`	`Poul\|Raider: yes`
`20:58.43`	`Pkekyo\|`	`how can I extract the contents of an [visually] all-black targa file? (for recoloring purposes)`
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`20:58.47`	`Ellipsis`	`Elgrim: check the colors settings for the border color options :)`
`20:58.51`	`CIA-8`	`03toadkiller * r55463 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarButton.lua ChangeList.lua):`
`20:58.51`	`CIA-8`	`AutoBar :`
`20:58.51`	`CIA-8`	`-- Update changelist`
`20:59.41`	`kenlyric`	`haha, chuck norris Will It Blend`
`20:59.53`	`Ellipsis`	`!`
`21:00.01`	`kenlyric`	`http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=chuck`
`21:00.18`	`Ellipsis`	`I hereby award you three internets`
`21:00.22`	`Elgrim`	`Ellipsis yea color. Just I made a cool border for my tooltip with the RothSquare base, and configured it kinda cool`
`21:00.46`	`Elgrim`	`Would like to try matching the pitbull border. But there is no such option yet then?`
`21:01.01`	`Elgrim`	`Think ive seen people using RothSqaure borders, or Blizzard dialog border for pitbull`
`21:01.10`	`Ellipsis`	`people usually just put eePanels behind their PitBull frames`
`21:01.59`	`Elgrim`	`hum`
`21:02.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:55] <Ellipsis> it's hot and all, but no <--:(`
`21:02.25`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht, I don't do secure frames, sorry :P`
`21:02.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`do me then`
`21:03.04`	`Ellipsis`	`ok`
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`21:03.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`12 am tomorrow, my house`
`21:03.56`	`Ellipsis`	`k`
`21:04.25`	`Elgrim`	`Ellipsis you can't make eePanels appear and disappear with the UF can you?`
`21:04.46`	`Ellipsis`	`Elgrim: it's quite tricky to do that, due to the frame recycling`
`21:04.56`	`Elgrim`	`ye`
`21:05.27`	`Elgrim`	`somehow I get the feeling this is too much like I had it. I feel like reinventing it :D refreshing!`
`21:05.41`	`Elgrim`	`gonna look through some UF mods`
`21:06.06`	`Elgrim`	`ALso I ran into a problem someone might have solved here.`
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`21:06.41`	`Elgrim`	`Its with the Aloft mod. I mod. the castbar, but I cant get rid of blizzards castbar`
`21:06.50`	`*** part/#wowace hard_shooter (n=hardshoo@82.248.23.111)`
`21:06.51`	`Elgrim`	`so I see 2 castbars on the nameplates :/`
`21:06.52`	`Ellipsis`	`that's a known issue I think`
`21:06.59`	`Ellipsis`	`a few people have been complaining about it lately`
`21:07.04`	`Ellipsis`	`no clue if it's been fixed or will be`
`21:07.06`	`Elgrim`	`ye`
`21:07.06`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Aloft castbar? O.o`
`21:07.13`	`Elgrim`	`yea`
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`21:07.30`	`Elgrim`	`castbar on nameplate you know`
`21:07.56`	`Pkekyo\|`	`huh, didn't know it had that feature`
`21:08.11`	`Elgrim`	`:D`
`21:08.37`	`Elgrim`	`you can pretty much do everything with the nameplates through Aloft`
`21:08.43`	`kenlyric`	`what would be the point of aloft otherwise?`
`21:09.08`	`kenlyric`	`besides healing in AV`
`21:09.15`	`Elgrim`	`I love that I can have the spellicon big centered under the castbar at nameplate`
`21:09.16`	`Pkekyo\|`	`kenlyric: purty looks :)`
`21:09.16`	`alext`	`tanking`
`21:09.23`	`Elgrim`	`makes it easy in pvp to see what spell people are casting`
`21:11.47`	`Elgrim`	`Anyone got any unitframe preferances except for Pitbull? I just feel like trying out new stuff :D`
`21:12.02`	`durcyn`	`ag_UnitFrames still works quite well, Elgrim`
`21:12.30`	`CIA-8`	`03ackis * r55464 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-deDE.lua ARLLocals-enUS.lua):`
`21:12.30`	`CIA-8`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`21:12.30`	`CIA-8`	`- deDE update`
`21:12.39`	`Pkekyo\|`	`meh, I sacrificed AgUf for pitbull...not enough config options imo`
`21:13.38`	`Ellipsis`	`Elgrim: if you want to try something simple for a change, Sage is nice`
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`21:14.23`	`Sole`	`good morning everyone`
`21:14.33`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what level do I have to be to be able to have 375 enchanting skill?`
`21:14.41`	`Elgrim`	`Ellipsis thank you.`
`21:14.42`	`Draylore`	`good afternoon`
`21:14.59`	`Sole`	`Pkekyo\|: 60+ I think`
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`21:15.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`damnit :<`
`21:15.17`	`Sole`	`Pkekyo\|: Actually maybe 58, the trainer is in outland thats all I know`
`21:15.20`	`Pkekyo\|`	`was hoping it was50`
`21:15.29`	`Sole`	`and 58 is the level req to go through the portal`
`21:15.30`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Sole: my 42 mage is in shattrath allready`
`21:15.38`	`Sole`	`hm`
`21:15.40`	`Sole`	`true that`
`21:15.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`stuck at 293 enchanting though`
`21:15.46`	`CIA-8`	`03mikk 07Beta * r55465 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:15.46`	`CIA-8`	`Ace3 - AceConfigRegistry:`
`21:15.46`	`CIA-8`	`ACE-62: Added mindless options table validator. It is automatically run on the first fetch of an options table for a given UI type (i.e. each table is checked once for "cmd", once for "dialog", etc)`
`21:15.47`	`Sole`	`then I have no clue ^_^`
`21:16.18`	`Sole`	`so what firewall/antivirus software do you guys use?`
`21:16.23`	`aestil`	`hey bitches!`
`21:16.32`	`Sole`	`hi2u`
`21:16.44`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Sole: none at all :)`
`21:16.49`	`aestil`	`any word on the 2.4 PTR?`
`21:16.54`	`Pkekyo\|`	`got a hardware firewall though`
`21:16.59`	`Sole`	`hmm`
`21:17.03`	`Draylore`	`is cartopgrapher working for everyone? I updated via the updater and most of my waypoints and such are gone`
`21:17.09`	`Elgrim`	`Ellipsis, they are called Sage? seems to be unavailable from WAU`
`21:17.24`	`Sole`	`Sage is up on WoWI`
`21:17.30`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Draylore: working for me`
`21:17.31`	`Sole`	`good unit frames, good author`
`21:17.51`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`can you still run alts through dungeons with a level 70 or did they block that?`
`21:17.51`	`Sole`	`my net disconnects at irregular intervals for about 1-2 minutes`
`21:18.02`	`aestil`	`Sage has one of the best author's in the buiness.`
`21:18.05`	`Sole`	`all connections just get cut`
`21:18.07`	`aestil`	`not nearly enough config options for me though.`
`21:18.14`	`aestil`	`you basically have to like the way it looks.`
`21:18.16`	`Draylore`	`the only waypoints that are there are the ones I created manually....but ones for quest givers, trainers and such are gone`
`21:18.17`	`CIA-8`	`03gagorian * r55466 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warrior.lua Melee.lua):`
`21:18.17`	`CIA-8`	`DrDamage:`
`21:18.17`	`CIA-8`	`- First attempt at fixing melee hit calculation post patch 2.3`
`21:18.17`	`CIA-8`	`- Added block value into shield slam calculations due to new API support`
`21:18.59`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`[22:16] <Draylore> the only waypoints that are there are the ones I created manually....but ones for quest givers, trainers and such are gone <-- Those are probably out of fate, did you turn on out of date addons?`
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`21:20.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Sole: no antivirus is needed if yoou're not a complete arsehat`
`21:21.06`	`Sole`	`Pkekyo\|: I dont need an antivirus, my porn sites are safe`
`21:21.12`	`Lukian`	`kek`
`21:21.12`	`Sole`	`I mean Im a smart user`
`21:21.19`	`Lukian`	`Sole, why do you ask then?`
`21:21.27`	`Sole`	`coz I got a creepy email`
`21:21.33`	`Draylore`	`yes i turned on out of date`
`21:21.38`	`Sole`	`my email is vladpa AT gmail dot com`
`21:21.45`	`Lukian`	`download the attachment and run it through an upload scanner :p`
`21:21.50`	`Sole`	`I get an email from a vladepa FROM YUGOSLAVIA WTF`
`21:21.58`	`aestil`	`i wish that tourguide would marry cartographer routes. how sexy would that be.`
`21:22.01`	`aestil`	`Xinhuan: is that possible?`
`21:22.18`	`Ellipsis`	`not easily`
`21:22.26`	`Ellipsis`	`routes doesn't pay attention to order information`
`21:22.32`	`Ellipsis`	`tourguide does have certain things that have to come first`
`21:22.35`	`Sole`	`thanks luk`
`21:23.04`	`Sole`	`hang on`
`21:23.10`	`aestil`	`i want someone to write a fubar routes mod, so you can quickly and easily switch between various routes, and show / hide`
`21:23.12`	`Sole`	`that online scanner runs the file through ALL those programs?`
`21:23.29`	`Lukian`	`Sole, yes`
`21:23.36`	`Sole`	`gimme linky again pls, :P`
`21:23.36`	`aestil`	`its seems like that functionality is a no brainer for routes, yet Xinhuan 'meh'd' me when i asked him about it.`
`21:23.42`	`Sole`	`I opened it in a weird firefox window`
`21:23.46`	`aestil`	`and hola Ellipsis. how's it hanging?`
`21:24.04`	`Ellipsis`	`er...`
`21:24.30`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`Shriveled,limp and always slightly to the left`
`21:24.37`	`aestil`	`liar, liar`
`21:24.42`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`ding ding`
`21:24.52`	`aestil`	`but really, Ellipsis i think i should take a nap. i'm a tired panda.`
`21:25.15`	`Ellipsis`	`=[`
`21:25.24`	`Ellipsis`	`you should come visit me!`
`21:25.29`	`dezzi`	`is there a way to pass video options to WoW straight off when you start it?`
`21:25.37`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`anyone know this, if a level 70 can still run you through a dungeon. Like Sunken temple for example?`
`21:25.48`	`Josh_Borke`	`yes, they can`
`21:26.00`	`Ellipsis`	`er, why wouldn't they be able to? o.O`
`21:26.00`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`ok, thanks ^^`
`21:26.15`	`aestil`	`i was in ontario the other day.`
`21:26.17`	`NeoTron`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`21:26.21`	`aestil`	`thats pretty close to where you are generally.`
`21:26.28`	`NeoTron`	`and with raid I mean tier 5/6 content`
`21:26.39`	`Sole`	`hmm firewalls, which to use`
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`21:26.52`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`was confusing things I think, thought I read something like that but now that I think of it it had to do with summoning stones not being able to be used by people outside the level range of that stone, not necessarily the dungeon itself ^^`
`21:26.55`	`CIA-8`	`03paene * r55467 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua:`
`21:26.55`	`CIA-8`	`Cryolysis2:`
`21:26.55`	`CIA-8`	`-Implemented cooldown timers`
`21:26.55`	`CIA-8`	`-Fixed a bug causing the menus to show when attempting to show or hide the spell timer frame`
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`21:30.32`	`CIA-8`	`03gagorian * r55468 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`21:30.32`	`CIA-8`	`DrDamage:`
`21:30.32`	`CIA-8`	`- Fixed TrinityBars 1 & 2 support`
`21:31.56`	`fridgid`	`whats the difference between sharedmedia 2.0 and 1.0?`
`21:32.02`	`fridgid`	`and don't tell me the number`
`21:32.11`	`Ellipsis`	`2.0 is libstub`
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`21:32.24`	`kadrahil`	`and 1.0 greater than 1.0`
`21:32.32`	`fridgid`	`lolwut? whats libstub mean?`
`21:32.38`	`fridgid`	`its just a stub?`
`21:32.41`	`Ellipsis`	`it means the lib can work with any framework`
`21:32.41`	`Josh_Borke`	`it mean sit is no longer ace`
`21:33.17`	`fridgid`	`well, is 2.0 backwards compatible?`
`21:33.33`	`fridgid`	`or at least has the original stuff?`
`21:33.58`	`durcyn`	`it's the same library, just with a new framework-independent loader`
`21:34.04`	`Aeyan`	`It does, but you can't just plug and play it with old SharedMediaLib stuff`
`21:34.11`	`Aeyan`	`They need to be updated a little`
`21:34.23`	`Aeyan`	`Some people have been converting everthing recently`
`21:34.30`	`fridgid`	`oh, so it doesn't require ace2 to work?`
`21:34.32`	`Aeyan`	`Still some yet to be done, though`
`21:34.34`	`fridgid`	`i understand`
`21:34.41`	`dylanm`	`Does the SharedMedia addon respect it yet?`
`21:34.51`	`Ellipsis`	`yes`
`21:34.55`	`durcyn`	`there's an updated version of sharedmedia`
`21:35.00`	`fridgid`	`i guess people got pissed trying to use sharedmedia for like 2 textures and ahving to load the entire ace framework?`
`21:35.14`	`Josh_Borke`	`well, it just didn't make sense`
`21:35.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`SolePkekyo\|: I dont need an antivirus, my porn sites are safe <------- ftw`
`21:35.15`	`Aeyan`	`Yeah, there's SharedMedia-2.0 for LibSharedMedia-2.0`
`21:35.22`	`durcyn`	`fridgid: that and a couple of months of drama, yes.`
`21:35.26`	`Ellipsis`	`fridgid: no, it's more out of a general move towards libstubbing everything`
`21:35.45`	`Ellipsis`	`nobody was really frustrated by the ace requirement of that particular lib (afaik)`
`21:35.57`	`Sole`	`I WAS`
`21:36.00`	`Sole`	`BECUZ IM SPECUL!`
`21:36.04`	`fridgid`	`sorry if i ask stupid questions, i just don't understand the whole lib thing with ace mods`
`21:36.07`	`durcyn`	`Ellipsis: one word: dongle`
`21:36.28`	`Sole`	`dongle is small, that it is`
`21:36.32`	`Sole`	`in comparison to ace2`
`21:36.48`	`Ellipsis`	`durcyn: but, but...shared media?`
`21:37.02`	`fridgid`	`isn't dongle made by the one guy who stopped doing ace b/c it was getting 'bloated' andmade his on framework?`
`21:37.11`	`fridgid`	`own*`
`21:37.30`	`Sole`	`it wasnt "the one guy"`
`21:37.33`	`Pkekyo\|`	`fridgid: wasn't that ckknight and his rock?`
`21:37.36`	`Sole`	`it was a group of core devs afaik`
`21:37.46`	`fridgid`	`ok nm i'm thinking of somebody else`
`21:37.57`	`Sole`	`you thinking of tekkub?`
`21:38.00`	`fridgid`	`a while back, somebody 'quit' wowace and started making stuff on google.code`
`21:38.12`	`fridgid`	`im not sure, ammo or rabbit comes to mind, but i don't think those are right`
`21:38.18`	`Sole`	`tekkub did, so did haste`
`21:38.22`	`fridgid`	`i dunno, i fail with names hardcore`
`21:38.24`	`fridgid`	`haste, that was it`
`21:38.25`	`Sole`	`ammo and rabbit have always been around afaik`
`21:38.28`	`durcyn`	`cladhaire as well`
`21:38.35`	`Sole`	`clad worked on dongle didnt he?`
`21:38.38`	`Sole`	`so did Tem`
`21:38.39`	`Ellipsis`	`clad started dongle`
`21:38.41`	`Ellipsis`	`basically`
`21:38.45`	`CIA-8`	`ow`
`21:38.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think cia has me on ignore`
`21:39.00`	`Sole`	`Haste had good reason though`
`21:39.08`	`Sole`	`morons would modify his code and upload it`
`21:39.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`2nd commit of mine today it hasnt annouced`
`21:39.29`	`durcyn`	`Arrowmaster: CIA-8 is ignoring you.`
`21:39.33`	`Sole`	`and all he asked for is they send him a diff and he'd see if it was what he wanted in his addon`
`21:41.14`	`fridgid`	`another nub question, api documentation for sharedmedia 1.0 and / or 2.0?`
`21:41.18`	`fridgid`	`plz don't say the wiki`
`21:41.24`	`Pkekyo\|`	`the wiki`
`21:41.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i think somebody added target cast bars to ocb or something because of all the morons wanting an ecb replacement and that set him off`
`21:41.36`	`Sole`	`so who has seen War yet?`
`21:41.48`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Sole: any war in particular?`
`21:41.55`	`Sole`	`the movie War`
`21:41.58`	`Sole`	`with jet li`
`21:42.00`	`Sole`	`and jason statham`
`21:42.06`	`Pkekyo\|`	`not me`
`21:42.12`	`Sole`	`I was expecting a typical mindless killfest`
`21:42.17`	`Pkekyo\|`	`if it's got Jason Statham in it I'm gonna watch it though`
`21:42.17`	`Sole`	`but it wasnt a mindless killfest`
`21:42.27`	`Sole`	`<3 statham`
`21:42.27`	`fridgid`	`semimindless killfest?`
`21:42.41`	`Sole`	`no its badass killfest with a story`
`21:42.43`	`Sole`	`WITH A STORY`
`21:42.45`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Jason Statham is so full of win and awesome he's about to burst`
`21:42.46`	`Sole`	`like WTF`
`21:42.57`	`fridgid`	`kinda like porn with a plot?`
`21:42.59`	`Sole`	`oh yeah and the end is awesome`
`21:43.06`	`Sole`	`well no porn with a plot just fails`
`21:43.13`	`Sole`	`coz theyre all bad at acting`
`21:43.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`so if anybody cares since cia isnt reporting my commits, i changed the cartographer instance map for ZA`
`21:43.21`	`fridgid`	`whorecraft!?`
`21:43.25`	`Sole`	`lol`
`21:43.29`	`Sole`	`Ive always been wondering`
`21:43.31`	`breser`	`CIA breaks often.`
`21:43.40`	`Sole`	`how did we get the instance maps in the first place?`
`21:43.46`	`Sole`	`did people just rip out the minimap files?`
`21:44.08`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I've always been wondering`
`21:44.14`	`Pkekyo\|`	`how do I get to see the instance maps? >.<`
`21:44.24`	`Sole`	`get cartographer/atlas`
`21:44.30`	`fridgid`	`is there a way to rotate text yet? like without using funky fonts, actually rotate it?`
`21:44.31`	`Sole`	`hit a couple buttons`
`21:44.40`	`Sole`	`what do you mean rotate it?`
`21:44.44`	`Sole`	`like rotate a fontstring?`
`21:44.52`	`khang_`	`whats an addon that auto sells grey items?`
`21:44.56`	`fridgid`	`yeah`
`21:44.59`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I've got cartographer allready`
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`21:45.06`	`Sole`	`khang_: automaton <3 it`
`21:45.12`	`khang_`	`Sole, thanks :)`
`21:45.18`	`Sole`	`np :)`
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`21:45.35`	`fridgid`	`like take a horizontal fontstring and make it vertical`
`21:46.37`	`fridgid`	`like how you can SetTexCoords to rotate textures, theres nothing you can do for fontstrings is there>`
`21:47.20`	`ckknight`	`no, fridgid`
`21:47.28`	`fridgid`	`wtb.`
`21:47.40`	`ckknight`	`alright, gtg`
`21:47.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`byes`
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`21:48.38`	`Sole`	`bai qtpi`
`21:50.47`	`fridgid`	`was the 'watched faction' bar always seperate from the xp bar?`
`21:51.03`	`fridgid`	`or is that recent/semirecent?`
`21:51.10`	`Aeyan`	`Not always, but has been for a long whiel`
`21:51.12`	`Aeyan`	`while`
`21:51.16`	`fridgid`	`like since 2.0?`
`21:51.21`	`Aeyan`	`Don't remember`
`21:53.08`	`CIA-8`	`03paene * r55470 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua:`
`21:53.08`	`CIA-8`	`Cryolysis2:`
`21:53.08`	`CIA-8`	`-Fixed timer bars not showing up after hiding then showing the timer frame`
`21:53.08`	`CIA-8`	`03arrowmaster * r55469 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: updated Zul'Aman instance map to be more readable and adjusted instance notes to match`
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`21:53.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`21:53.26`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`this is sneaky, the items i was looking for went tingling :E`
`21:53.34`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`weren't*`
`21:53.47`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`twinkling lol`
`21:54.09`	`Pkekyo\|`	`yeah, what's with all the twinkling items nowadays?`
`21:54.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`things twinkle when you can interact with them, usually`
`21:55.12`	`CIA-8`	`03gagorian * r55471 10DrDamage/Data/ (Druid.lua Hunter.lua Paladin.lua Shaman.lua):`
`21:55.12`	`CIA-8`	`DrDamage:`
`21:55.12`	`CIA-8`	`- Added new lifebloom idol, new SoR libram`
`21:55.12`	`CIA-8`	`- Added explosive and immolation trap`
`21:55.44`	`Pkekyo\|`	`since when?`
`21:55.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`that with the everything that starts a quest having a big ! over it in the game world and the minimap really dumbed down the finding hidden quests part of the game`
`21:56.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`since this patch`
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`21:56.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Arrowmaster: yeah`
`21:57.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`on the one hand, its kind of nice actually seeing some quests i missed, but it does take the enjoyment out of actually finding them`
`21:57.42`	`[Horde]Tricksy`	`given that everyone and their brother usues wowhead or something similar these days on top of guides and lightheaded/doublewide/tomtom I'd be surprised if this change isn't positive for the bulk of the population :)`
`21:58.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`i was on my rogue alt in WPL and found some quests i never knew about`
`21:59.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`some outhouse with a blue ? over it that you need a key for, a bookcase with a yellow ! that you need a key for, and a scroll with a yellow ! that implies the outhouse gives the key for the bookcase but no clue where to get the key for the outhouse and i didnt care enough to look it up`
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`22:07.17`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what are the mats for mongoose?`
`22:07.34`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`6 crystals plus other stuff`
`22:07.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`your arm and leg. check wowhead.`
`22:07.45`	`Pkekyo\|`	`can't check wowhead`
`22:07.47`	`Pkekyo\|`	`nor thottbot`
`22:09.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`6 void crystals, 10 large prismatic shards, 8 greater planar essence, 40 arcane dust`
`22:09.35`	`Pkekyo\|`	`hm`
`22:09.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`still lacking prismatic shards then`
`22:09.42`	`Pkekyo\|`	`thanks`
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`22:19.56`	`Caleth`	`lo`
`22:20.18`	`Caleth`	`anyone here that feel themselves really skiled on pitbull unit frames?`
`22:20.33`	`Pazza`	`anyone else have any problems with their edgefiles using backdrop since the 2.3 patch?`
`22:20.35`	`CIA-8`	`03gagorian * r55474 10DrDamage/Data/ (Hunter.lua Warlock.lua):`
`22:20.35`	`CIA-8`	`DrDamage:`
`22:20.36`	`CIA-8`	`- Added scaling to shadow ward`
`22:20.36`	`CIA-8`	`- Added RAP scaling to serpent sting`
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`22:21.14`	`Lukian`	`Gagorian, nice updates :)`
`22:21.26`	`Caleth`	`abyone here that can help me with moving "debuff/buff" on my targets in pitbull?`
`22:23.36`	`dylanm`	`Dammit none of these mpq tools for os x are really so much working`
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`22:24.25`	`Paradox`	`anyone using recount?`
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`22:25.16`	`Pazza`	`would anyone mind taking a look at my tga file and try applying it as a backdrop... or if anyone has WIM, maybe take a look at it? it is driving me nuts (already wasted a couple of hours)... Perhaps I am missing something obvious to others.`
`22:25.32`	`CIA-8`	`03sorren * r55475 10CooldownTimers2/ (CooldownTimers2.lua Menu.lua):`
`22:25.32`	`CIA-8`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`22:25.32`	`CIA-8`	`- Added a pulse icon based on JIM's cooldown pulse, since he no longer seems to be updating his addon people frequently request this. Will remove if JIM asks me to.`
`22:25.32`	`CIA-8`	`- Options for the pulse icon are currently only in the dropdown menu. Will add to gui later.`
`22:25.38`	`aestil`	`i'm considering eating some food.`
`22:25.44`	`a-stray-cat`	`food's good for the soul.`
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`22:26.13`	`CIA-8`	`03gagorian * r55476 10DrDamage/Data/Mage.lua:`
`22:26.13`	`CIA-8`	`DrDamage:`
`22:26.13`	`CIA-8`	`- Added Frost and Fire Ward scaling`
`22:26.23`	`Gagorian`	`Lukien: Should have all 2.3 changes in that I can think of now then :p`
`22:26.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`Gagorian: shadow ward scales too`
`22:26.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh nvm`
`22:26.48`	`dylanm`	`Bah where's ck when I need him. I'm sure he's done this.`
`22:26.57`	`Gagorian`	`Arrowmaster: Myes :p`
`22:27.02`	`MentalPower`	`Pazza: its sides have to be a power of two and transparency has to be its own channel`
`22:27.52`	`Xuerian`	`Ok, is there any tradeskill mod that lists down to basic ingredients (ore, etc) the items needed for each recipe?`
`22:28.18`	`aestil`	`skillet?`
`22:28.24`	`Pazza`	`Mental... it is.. and has been. worked fine for over a year...`
`22:28.29`	`aestil`	`there are options in skillet to do that i belive.`
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`22:28.38`	`CIA-8`	`03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r55477 10TankPoints/ (TankPoints-Locale-enUS.lua TankPoints.lua):`
`22:28.38`	`CIA-8`	`TankPoints:`
`22:28.38`	`CIA-8`	`- Add some explanation text to TankPoints to match EH/EHB.`
`22:28.38`	`CIA-8`	`- Add a spacer to the combat table to separate mitigations from connects`
`22:28.44`	`Pazza`	`After 2.3 patch. the edgefile no longer patches up correctly.`
`22:28.54`	`Paradox`	`when I click someone using recount, their window comes up with more info.. but it's in the top left corner of my screen and you can only drag the window with the bar at the top, how can I reset it's position?`
`22:28.55`	`Pazza`	`patches = matches*`
`22:29.04`	`Paradox`	`also, the "merge pets dmg with owner" doesn't work, even when checked`
`22:29.05`	`Xuerian`	`aestil: Thanks`
`22:29.19`	`MentalPower`	`Pazza: never made any edgefiles sorry`
`22:29.35`	`aestil`	`Xuerian: no problem. on top of that, skillet is a great tradeskill mod.`
`22:29.47`	`CIA-8`	`03alar * r55478 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua):`
`22:29.47`	`CIA-8`	`!AlarLib`
`22:29.47`	`CIA-8`	`Improved help function`
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`22:30.01`	`durcyn`	`lsdjflalkdsga die alar die`
`22:30.04`	`dylanm`	`alarrrr`
`22:30.08`	`dylanm`	`Come play with us`
`22:30.19`	`aestil`	`what is alar lib?`
`22:30.21`	`CIA-8`	`03alar * r55479 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc):`
`22:30.21`	`CIA-8`	`AlarAutomation`
`22:30.22`	`CIA-8`	`3.0.2`
`22:30.22`	`CIA-8`	`Feature: Embedded Library upgrade`
`22:30.27`	`aestil`	`a loot pinata lib?`
`22:30.28`	`dylanm`	`HAH`
`22:30.41`	`Xuerian`	`(WaU needs to live-search only .5 sec after the last char was input >_o)`
`22:30.44`	`JoshBorke`	`you're slow aestil`
`22:30.58`	`aestil`	`JoshBorke: yeah, but my SP kicks your SP ass.`
`22:31.04`	`durcyn`	`no it's some douchebag named alar's wrapper for ace2 functions`
`22:31.06`	`JoshBorke`	`i got a new weapon`
`22:31.07`	`CIA-8`	`03alar * r55480 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc):`
`22:31.07`	`CIA-8`	`AlarBGHelper`
`22:31.07`	`CIA-8`	`3.0.2`
`22:31.07`	`CIA-8`	`Fix: Health scan disabled in AV. Not useful`
`22:31.07`	`CIA-8`	`Feature: /abh cleancache to delete pg cache and free memory`
`22:31.18`	`aestil`	`oh?`
`22:31.21`	`JoshBorke`	`aestil: i've gotten all the drops off the bosses we've killed in ZA`
`22:31.28`	`aestil`	`cool. i got the ring.`
`22:31.30`	`dylanm`	`You greedy whore.`
`22:31.32`	`dylanm`	`:D`
`22:31.34`	`JoshBorke`	`aestil: spell damage bracers / healing chest off first boss`
`22:31.34`	`aestil`	`don't have it socketed with +12 dmg yet.`
`22:31.37`	`fridgid`	`for i=1,1 do <--- that would run a set of code once right?`
`22:31.40`	`JoshBorke`	`aestil: mace off the 2nd boss`
`22:31.44`	`aestil`	`i will be getting bracers/legs/belt from hyjal`
`22:31.46`	`JoshBorke`	`fridgid: yes`
`22:32.05`	`JoshBorke`	`za is the best i'll do`
`22:32.12`	`Xuerian`	`fridgid: Why not just do <code> end? o_0`
`22:32.17`	`buu`	`aestil: Dude, we totally rocked.`
`22:32.25`	`aestil`	`buu: FLK?`
`22:32.32`	`CIA-8`	`03alar * r55481 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc):`
`22:32.32`	`CIA-8`	`AlarTTFrame`
`22:32.32`	`CIA-8`	`4.0.2`
`22:32.32`	`CIA-8`	`Feature: Upgraded embedded library`
`22:32.32`	`buu`	`aestil: + morogrim + hydross`
`22:32.50`	`aestil`	`well, i knew you already had morogrim`
`22:32.53`	`aestil`	`grats on FLK`
`22:32.55`	`buu`	`aestil: Did you?`
`22:32.56`	`aestil`	`now you're learning leo?`
`22:33.04`	`buu`	`aestil: Yup. Like, 40% on our first pull.`
`22:33.07`	`aestil`	`buu: yeah, we talked about morro.`
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`22:33.13`	`aestil`	`Leo is all about 15%`
`22:33.14`	`fridgid`	`Xuerian, i've got code that does basicly the same shit for 5 textures, but the first one is special, so i'm just running it all with ..i references and this way i can be lazy and copypaste code`
`22:33.17`	`aestil`	`he's easy until 15%`
`22:33.19`	`buu`	`aestil: Eh. Why?`
`22:33.21`	`aestil`	`then you have to have smart people.`
`22:33.28`	`Xuerian`	`Ah.`
`22:33.29`	`aestil`	`cause he splits, and you have both forms at the same time`
`22:33.38`	`buu`	`aestil: We only took a couple of pulls at him since we had already beaten hydross and flk that night.`
`22:33.45`	`Xuerian`	`fridgid: Lazy is good`
`22:33.47`	`buu`	`aestil: But you just burn the human down right`
`22:33.51`	`aestil`	`if you get him to split while he's in demon form, you need a second resist tank.`
`22:33.51`	`fridgid`	`i guess i could make it one loop with a few ifs around the code thats different, but this works just the same`
`22:33.57`	`aestil`	`otherwise your first one goes splat.`
`22:33.57`	`buu`	`aestil: Oh that'll be hilarious.`
`22:34.01`	`aestil`	`cause of the stacking debuff.`
`22:34.11`	`buu`	`Note to self, don't split him in demon form.`
`22:34.19`	`aestil`	`so, you can have 0 deaths, and at 15%, if you aren't prepared, complete wipe.`
`22:34.30`	`buu`	`Ohh. You mean, because he goes demon again and you still have the stacked debuffs?`
`22:34.33`	`fridgid`	`so i have one i=1,1 loop, and then a i=2,5 loop for the other 4`
`22:34.34`	`aestil`	`the debuff has a timer, so you have to time it just right if you don't bring a second resist tank.`
`22:34.40`	`buu`	`aestil: Hilarious.`
`22:34.58`	`aestil`	`well, if he goes back human, and you didn't leave enough time, yes, the debuffs are still up.`
`22:35.09`	`aestil`	`and then as soon as one gets reapplied, they all get refreshed.`
`22:35.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`anyone know of a quest minion/helper that displays to other people what quests I have and my quest progress`
`22:35.21`	`aestil`	`just bring a secodn resist tank to pick him up at 15%`
`22:35.24`	`aestil`	`assume you will need to.`
`22:35.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`even though they don't have or already have completed the quests?`
`22:35.26`	`buu`	`aestil: Heh, I had 5 stacked on me last night, it was hilarious`
`22:35.29`	`aestil`	`because you probably will.`
`22:35.34`	`buu`	`aestil: We totally don't have a second resist tank.`
`22:35.46`	`Xuerian`	`aestil: It just makes reagents clickable, as far as I can see, but that's still win`
`22:35.46`	`Lukian`	`Gnarfoz, I use PartyToGo, because it's not annoying, but everyone needs it`
`22:35.47`	`aestil`	`it should just be like a bear in FR gear with a FR aura.`
`22:35.55`	`durcyn`	`huh, you can do it with one resist tank, why would you waste a second raid slot`
`22:36.07`	`aestil`	`Xuerian: there are options to show you stuff in the tooltip. i thought it was what you wanted.`
`22:36.13`	`durcyn`	`stack FR on a warlock, and just relax before 15%, it's not hard.`
`22:36.22`	`buu`	`durcyn: Yeah...`
`22:36.30`	`buu`	`durcyn: Just hold him at 16% until they fall off.`
`22:36.32`	`aestil`	`hard? no. simpler to just have a second resist tank on a fight which is otherwise very simple?`
`22:36.43`	`durcyn`	`it's not a dps race`
`22:36.49`	`aestil`	`durcyn: exactly`
`22:37.02`	`aestil`	`so who cares if you waste the 1 person in FR gear.`
`22:37.03`	`buu`	`aestil: They're trying to make me soul link =[`
`22:37.04`	`aestil`	`doesn't hurt you.`
`22:37.17`	`aestil`	`buu: the difference between 5 and 7 stacks being ok.`
`22:37.20`	`Xuerian`	`aestil: It shows me all the top-level components for say, Fel Iron Musket, in the tooltip, yes, I just meant I wanted a summary of all basic components, eg 24 Fel Iron Ore, 1 Heavy Stock`
`22:37.21`	`fridgid`	`do you have to call ClearAllPoints() on newly created frames before SetPoint() ?`
`22:37.33`	`buu`	`aestil: 5 stacks is pretty awesome, like 9k per blast.`
`22:37.34`	`Glorian`	`Gagorian Thx for your Dr. Damage MOD very Helpfull for my lock and hunter`
`22:37.49`	`Xuerian`	`aestil: But this is still a huge improvement on the default tradeskill window :p`
`22:37.52`	`aestil`	`Xuerian: in the options, i believe that you can make it also show you, what basic components of various parts over.`
`22:38.02`	`buu`	`aestil: Really fun fight though.`
`22:38.04`	`aestil`	`like, i thought it would show you what you needed to make parts, that you needed to make.`
`22:38.08`	`aestil`	`buu: vashj is fun.`
`22:38.08`	`buu`	`aestil: Way better than flk or moro.`
`22:38.19`	`buu`	`aestil: Dude, we're going to be making vashj attempts this week.`
`22:38.25`	`aestil`	`buu: you will find, that vashj is several orders more difficult than leo even.`
`22:38.29`	`aestil`	`its a wierd scale.`
`22:38.40`	`aestil`	`nothing in TK is even close to the difficulty of KT.`
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`22:38.48`	`Xuerian`	`aestil: I don't see the option anywhere, though I could be missing it. Is all good, though`
`22:38.49`	`buu`	`aestil: I'm pretty confident, flk was trivial, leo is going to go down in like 5-6 more pulls.`
`22:38.50`	`aestil`	`VR, al'ar and solarian are all stupid easy.`
`22:38.54`	`hypetech`	`Are heart of darkness BOE? o.0`
`22:38.58`	`buu`	`aestil: Yeah, we already have them.`
`22:39.06`	`aestil`	`hypetech: yes.`
`22:39.09`	`hypetech`	`nice`
`22:39.10`	`aestil`	`the hyjal drops for SR gear?`
`22:39.22`	`durcyn`	`BT drops for BT crafting, rather.`
`22:39.24`	`hypetech`	`not just for SR but ya`
`22:39.32`	`durcyn`	`it was sheer laziness that made them drop in hyjal`
`22:39.36`	`dylanm`	`Yeah. You can sell 'em.`
`22:40.07`	`hypetech`	`Finally an alliance guild got into Hyjal/BT on my server >.< Now we're working to be the first Horde guild in`
`22:41.12`	`buu`	`I think there's two horde guilds a head of us.`
`22:41.39`	`*** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com)`
`22:41.39`	`hypetech`	`There's one ahead of us atm, but I'm confident we're going to pass them with the quickness`
`22:42.19`	`hypetech`	`ZA being counted in wowjutsu is demoralizing btw >.<`
`22:43.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`some guild on my server jumped up like 3 spots to 4th because of that`
`22:44.02`	`buu`	`Vashj looks .. really scary.`
`22:44.25`	`hypetech`	`Does the hunter pet on FLK spawn in any particular place? Our warriors can't seem to pick him up before he runs off and ganks a healer :(`
`22:45.23`	`buu`	`hypetech: We thought he spawned on top of the hunter..`
`22:45.25`	`dylanm`	`wowjutsu is the devil`
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`22:49.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey`
`22:49.55`	`Ellipsis`	`hi`
`22:51.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hi.`
`22:51.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`god damn it`
`22:51.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i need to make an alias`
`22:51.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`in WoW`
`22:51.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and in IRC`
`22:51.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`in WoW for /msg=/w`
`22:51.56`	`Ellipsis`	`lulz`
`22:52.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and in IRC for /w=/msg`
`22:52.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`seriously`
`22:52.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`drives me mad`
`22:52.28`	`CIA-8`	`03speeddymon * r55482 10AutomaticLFG/ (AutomaticLFG.lua AutomaticLFG.toc):`
`22:52.28`	`CIA-8`	`AutomaticLFG:`
`22:52.28`	`CIA-8`	`-Added notes to not place this addon on WoWUI, as proof to Rushster that people who dont want their addons posted there will do anything to get them removed.`
`22:52.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`bored`
`22:52.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`been kicked from my guild and reinvited`
`22:52.56`	`Belazor`	`Yes good, give me drama points to the autopatchnote thingy`
`22:52.57`	`CIA-8`	`03speeddymon * r55483 10StanceSetsFu/ (StanceSetsFu.lua StanceSetsFu.toc):`
`22:52.57`	`CIA-8`	`StanceSetsFu:`
`22:52.57`	`CIA-8`	`- Added notes to not place this addon on WoWUI, as proof to Rushster that people who dont want their addons posted there will do anything to get them removed.`
`22:52.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lol guild drama`
`22:53.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i kept moving items in the guildbank`
`22:53.06`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not removing them`
`22:53.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`just moving`
`22:53.23`	`Belazor`	`I like keeping things in order too`
`22:53.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because someone was using the guildbank to temp-store his items there`
`22:53.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`his item's werent ordered`
`22:53.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`neither alphabetical, nor by use, nor by color`
`22:53.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(nor by itemid)`
`22:53.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(or level)`
`22:53.58`	`Belazor`	`...`
`22:53.58`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`22:54.03`	`Belazor`	`I order my shit by use`
`22:54.07`	`durcyn`	`so basically you're an obsessive-compulsive wanker`
`22:54.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`durcyn no`
`22:54.22`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but i enjoy pretending i am one to piss people off`
`22:54.40`	`durcyn`	`so basically you're an obsessive-compulsive wanker troll =P`
`22:54.45`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`23:03.11`	`Pkekyo\|`	`BOOOOOOOYAH! just handed in my midterms in norse language and litterature 30 sec before deadline!`
`23:04.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`great.`
`23:04.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so`
`23:04.24`	`Ellipsis`	`grats`
`23:04.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`what are you going to work as when you finish studying.`
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`23:05.48`	`Belazor`	`Norse language? Hvorfor skriver du om norrønt? O.o`
`23:07.06`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Belazor: fordi jeg ikke har noe valg`
`23:07.06`	Funkeh`	`nn folks`
`23:07.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`sag_ich_nicht: I'll probably get drafted`
`23:07.19`	`winkiller`	`"den store planeten" is all norse I know :P`
`23:07.29`	`Belazor`	`Norse != Norwegian`
`23:07.34`	`winkiller`	`see?`
`23:07.40`	`Pkekyo\|`	`norse =/= norwegian`
`23:07.40`	`winkiller`	`I'm clueless!`
`23:07.41`	`Belazor`	`Norse is the language of the Vikings`
`23:07.48`	`winkiller`	`skol?`
`23:08.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Norse is an ancient nordic language. neither norse nor the vikings were specificly norwegian`
`23:08.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`sag_ich_nicht: after that I'm prolly going for either photography or graphical design`
`23:08.42`	`Belazor`	`I managed to weasel my way out of being drafted ;D`
`23:08.50`	`Civrock`	`Question: Which addons are using TabletLib? It seems to be using 5%+ of my CPU.`
`23:09.11`	`Ellipsis`	`Civrock: are you measuring it with a FuBar plugin?`
`23:09.15`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Belazor: my hearing's screwed up so I prolly won't get drafted unless there's a shortage of crazy people`
`23:09.18`	`Belazor`	`open folder. hit search. wait. ???. profit`
`23:09.29`	`Civrock`	`Ellipsis: Yes.`
`23:09.29`	`NeoTron`	`Pkekyo\|: are you Norweigan?`
`23:09.32`	`Ellipsis`	`because those display their info in Tablet, which means the very act of checking the usage is causing the usage to skyrocket :P`
`23:09.36`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NeoTron: yes I am`
`23:09.45`	`Belazor`	`Me too ;D`
`23:09.46`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what's with all the bloody norwegians here all of a sudden? :p`
`23:09.49`	`Ellipsis`	`it's like quantum performance!`
`23:09.55`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I'm not unique anymore :<`
`23:09.55`	`Ellipsis`	`measuring it changes the results :)`
`23:09.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis`
`23:09.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`23:09.58`	`durcyn`	`schrodinger's addon`
`23:10.06`	`Belazor`	`BYEN É BERGEN Å LAGE É BRANN!`
`23:10.08`	`NeoTron`	`Jag �r fr�n Sverige men jag bor i USA..`
`23:10.13`	`Pkekyo\|`	`"Always remember you're unique...Just like everyone else!"`
`23:10.15`	`Ellipsis`	`o.o`
`23:10.20`	`durcyn`	`spooky heisenbergian forces you see`
`23:10.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`quantum performance, is when you THINK the addon runs faster after you optimized ther code, but you can't prove it.`
`23:10.26`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no wait`
`23:10.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that's string performance.`
`23:10.33`	`Belazor`	`My eyes are kinda fucked, I have 5/5 on one eye (I could read all the way down to the last line) but my right eye I couldn't even see the largest letter`
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`23:10.53`	`Belazor`	`So I hope thats part the reason why I didnt get drafted`
`23:10.55`	`Ellipsis`	`what is with all you guys and your swedish/norwegian`
`23:10.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`a møøse once bit my sister`
`23:10.56`	`Wobwork`	`nah, it's the spooky action at a distance`
`23:10.57`	`NeoTron`	`5/5 ? is that a 20/20 divided by 4? :)`
`23:11.05`	`Belazor`	`probs, its what he wrote`
`23:11.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis ich habe keine ahnung, ich spreche deutsch, keine nordischen sprachen :(`
`23:11.15`	`Ellipsis`	`tempts me to make a horrible attempt at it`
`23:11.21`	`Wobwork`	`ie, someone else's computer runs your addon better once you optimised it`
`23:11.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`at what`
`23:11.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`some nordic language or german`
`23:11.52`	`Pkekyo\|`	`I scored 9/9 on all tests except vision and hearing....I'm nearly deaf on my left ear, so scored a 4 on that and a 7 on vision :<`
`23:11.53`	`Ellipsis`	`swedish`
`23:11.54`	`NeoTron`	`I studied french in school. I definitely don't remember anything sufficient to read or understand it now`
`23:11.54`	`Belazor`	`Ich kann ein bisshen deutsch verstehen, ich habe eine C ins deutch cheated myself into and now you know why`
`23:11.55`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`23:12.00`	`Ellipsis`	`I don't know a bit of german`
`23:12.19`	`Ellipsis`	`I studied swedish, though`
`23:12.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(it's not like nordic languages aren't a broken german anyway, just like english)`
`23:12.31`	`Belazor`	`when I got asked if would be able to run like 20 km in 15 mins or whatever i said "not a chance". i also made a point of telling the guy how I cant swim and how I would rather sit at the comp`
`23:12.47`	`Belazor`	`so I got a letter saying I wont be drafted unless theres a war and theres a dire need`
`23:12.48`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`23:14.01`	`NeoTron`	`I got out of military service because of my eye sight`
`23:14.11`	`NeoTron`	`I was placed as a reserve officer essentially`
`23:14.29`	`*** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@unaffiliated/polarina)`
`23:14.33`	`NeoTron`	`so if I was to be drafted (Sweden in a war - highly unlikely) I'd command a small squad of 10 ppl or so`
`23:14.45`	`Pkekyo\|`	`you can say that again NeoTron`
`23:15.01`	`Polarina`	`" Rushster says he's going to disable the RSS link. However, if I were WoWAce, and ANY mod author for that matter, I would check this site religiously for pirating. They may say they'll disable it, but once the dust settles they could easily get it back up and running. And if I were WoWAce, I'd disable the RSS for an indefinite period of time."`
`23:15.11`	`Polarina`	`Just file a lawsuit against them! Simple.`
`23:15.16`	`\|Stan\|`	`Belazor: wunderbar`
`23:15.30`	`NeoTron`	`Polarina: what site?`
`23:15.35`	`Ellipsis`	`wowui`
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`23:15.52`	`Polarina`	`NeoTron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`23:15.58`	`Pkekyo\|`	`wtf you on about Polarina`
`23:16.01`	`Pkekyo\|`	`?`
`23:16.04`	`Belazor`	`neotron: the nation of Belazor is declaring war on Sweden. Prepare yourself.`
`23:16.05`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`23:16.06`	`Polarina`	`Pkekyo\|: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=2`
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`23:18.01`	`Pkekyo\|`	`Belazor: you would have the support of me, I have long pondered about declaring my home town an independant state`
`23:18.18`	`NeoTron`	`to put it bluntly - are they really doing anything strictly wrong?`
`23:18.24`	`Belazor`	`XD`
`23:18.32`	`NeoTron`	`I mean not like wowace stuff isn't publicly available anyway`
`23:19.17`	`durcyn`	`it's licensed. by a legally binding license.`
`23:19.32`	`NeoTron`	`what license?`
`23:19.42`	`durcyn`	`GPL, usually.`
`23:19.53`	`Belazor`	`and what part of wowui tries to override that`
`23:20.05`	`NeoTron`	`what exactly are they doing to break GPL?`
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`23:20.08`	`Antiarc`	`I'm really pissed at wowui`
`23:20.11`	`Antiarc`	`Severely pissed.`
`23:20.19`	`aestil`	`wowu?`
`23:20.22`	`aestil`	`wowui?`
`23:20.28`	`NeoTron`	`I understand the stupidity of it, but fail to see how itwouldn't be legal`
`23:20.32`	`Antiarc`	`Because they weren't jsut rude, they're now trying to justify their dickishness by saying that addon authors have no rights.`
`23:20.57`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: Because any addon that is not explicitly distributed under a license that provides for redistribution may not be redistributed without permission from the author.`
`23:22.55`	`NeoTron`	`ok fair enough`
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`23:24.16`	`durcyn`	`Antiarc: if Threat-1.0 is GPL and Omen links against it, you're technically violating your own license, no?`
`23:24.26`	`durcyn`	`suppose 'linking' is vague in the context of lua`
`23:24.53`	`Antiarc`	`Threat-1.0 is LGPL`
`23:24.55`	`Antiarc`	`For that reason.`
`23:24.58`	`durcyn`	`ah, gotcha`
`23:25.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`durcyn: er.. what her said`
`23:25.00`	`tedrock`	`do you honestly think the whole time they were discussing this "feature" and developing it they never once thought it was "wrong"`
`23:25.02`	`NeoTron`	`linking when you deal with all source is a bit shady`
`23:25.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`he*`
`23:25.16`	`NeoTron`	`tedrock: probably`
`23:26.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`what I find kinda amusing is that alot of the people screaming about copyrights on their addons (though not all), are probably the same ones giving RIAA and MPAA grief by downloading pirated movies and music`
`23:26.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Also, while strictly speaking "linking against" may not be proper terminology when dealing with something like lua, and how libraries work within wow, the concept remains more or less the same.`
`23:27.02`	`Nefarion`	`you guys expected better? has anyone regulared that piece-of-shit forum? the admins 'round there are nothing but asshole scum forum-nazis who regularly bash their competition (with lies) to scare-boost their own ratings.`
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`23:27.42`	`durcyn`	`Nefarion: there is no inverse corollary to Godwin's Law. You lose.`
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`23:28.23`	`Nefarion`	`. . .`
`23:29.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Pkekyo\|: the main difference, of course, being that most people screaming about this arn't part of an alliance of record/movie label corporations designed to strip the actual artists/writers of their rights and money.`
`23:29.04`	`NeoTron`	`I find it stupid to say that they are "pirating addons" however`
`23:29.20`	`Nefarion`	`it's a regular enough term. i made no direct connection between nazis and them.`
`23:29.25`	`Antiarc`	`It's stupider to say that Blizzard owns addons and that authors have no right to claim distribution policy rights.`
`23:29.30`	`Codayus`	`What exactly are they doing? Anyone got a link to a description? Or was to sum it up?`
`23:29.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: under any definition of modern electronic piracy, it fits`
`23:30.15`	`tedrock`	`i don't think downloading a movie and watching it is really wrong. but downloading it, and profiting off it by distributing it to others i would consider wrong`
`23:30.23`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NightHawkTheSane: I'm not saying the MPAA and RIAA are right in any way, just that it's slightly ironic that alot of people screaming about their own code being pirated pirate code from others themselves (namely movie and music producers) :)`
`23:30.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`tedrock: thats the other major difference.`
`23:30.48`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: out of curiosity, do you KNOW what blizzard eula's and such say about addons?`
`23:30.55`	`Codayus`	`tedrock: While I more or less agree with you as a matter of morals, do keep in mind that the law disagrees with you. :-)`
`23:30.58`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: Only that they may disallow them at any time`
`23:30.58`	`NeoTron`	`after all they are "linking" to Blizzard property`
`23:31.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey`
`23:31.05`	`tedrock`	`i'm in canada anyway. i have to pay a damn "fee" on every blank disc i buy anyway so i have the bloody right to download music`
`23:31.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Antiarc`
`23:31.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`new KTM out`
`23:31.09`	`NeoTron`	`it's not at all unlikely they have clauses of ownership if you "use" their sdk`
`23:31.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fyi`
`23:31.14`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, saw it and diffed it already :)`
`23:31.22`	`Polarina`	`Pkekyo\|: I'm one of these people. But if someone asks me to redistribute my work, it's fine. Otherwise I would chop their heads off.`
`23:31.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`find anything amusing?`
`23:31.26`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: I've looked and can't find any such clause.`
`23:31.29`	`tedrock`	`Codayus: not anymore. canadian officals aren't going after pirates anymore. let me find teh artical for ya`
`23:31.32`	`Antiarc`	`sag_ich_nicht: Nah, standard stuff.`
`23:31.49`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NightHawkTheSane: I still happen to believe that the ace authors are the ones that are right when it comes to this situation though`
`23:31.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`changelog sounded an aweful lot like kenco change his scanning method a bit`
`23:32.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Pkekyo\|: well, i wasn't saying anything wrt right and wrong, just pointing out that the allegory wasn't quite perfect. ;)`
`23:32.16`	`Codayus`	`NeoTron: I've read the phrasing. It could be interpreted, if you squint VERY hard, that Bliz claims ownership of addons. But A) You have to really REALLY make some logical leaps, and B) Even if they said it it doesn't make it true, and C) Even if it did, violating Bliz's copyright is just as bad, no? :-)`
`23:32.17`	`NeoTron`	`sag_ich_nicht: you mean made it not suck tons of CPU at all times?`
`23:32.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no.`
`23:32.48`	`Antiarc`	`sag_ich_nicht: Eh. Not a lot of actual code changes.`
`23:32.53`	`Antiarc`	`Mostly just data changes`
`23:32.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`I like how the wowui person tried to call out the Curse relationship`
`23:33.08`	`Antiarc`	`?`
`23:33.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: it'd be highly unusual for blizz to exert any ownership simply because you're using their SDK. Many companies produce SDKs for their products without tryign to exert ownership over plugins/etc/whatever created with that SDK`
`23:33.10`	`Pkekyo\|`	`NightHawkTheSane: it never is, I'm a twat ;>`
`23:33.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Pkekyo\|: thats hardly news. ;)`
`23:33.21`	`tedrock`	`Codayus: http://www.joostteam.com/2007/11/11/canadian-police-stop-targeting-people-who-download-copyrighted-material-for-personal-use/`
`23:33.31`	`Pkekyo\|`	`nah, I just felt like refreshing memories a bit :)`
`23:33.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`curse relationship`
`23:33.41`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: sure.. but on the other hand they are adding addon functionality into the base game`
`23:33.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`someone tell curse to stop sucking`
`23:33.49`	`NeoTron`	`like we should see proper threat meters with wotlk`
`23:33.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i don't want to see betting ads in WAU`
`23:33.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`err sorry Antiarc that wasn't a wowui person, but one supporting their position? not sure`
`23:33.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i don't click those`
`23:33.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i click game ads`
`23:33.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: it`
`23:34.01`	`Antiarc`	`KarlThePagan: I didn't see that post`
`23:34.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`k, i'll link`
`23:34.11`	`Tain`	`I only click on ads for gold sellers and paid leveling services.`
`23:34.11`	`tedrock`	`Codayus: so basicly the law is on my side now :D`
`23:34.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: it's not unlike writing software for an OS, or a plugin for something like photoshop, though`
`23:34.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9974.msg159546#msg159546`
`23:34.22`	`NeoTron`	`still`
`23:34.24`	`KarlThePagan`	`about 50 people already jumped down their throat`
`23:34.36`	`NeoTron`	`Blizzard have some weird crap going on with Warden and such`
`23:34.38`	`NeoTron`	`so who knows :P`
`23:34.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Apple/MS don't generally try to exert ownership rights over software written using their SDKs`
`23:35.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`hm, I guess that is a wowui person`
`23:35.11`	`Codayus`	`tedrock: Not at all. The law hasn't changed; just because they stop enforcing doesn't change the law, and doesn't mean they can't resume enforcement. :-)`
`23:35.18`	`Hotphoenix`	`or over programs compiled with intel compliers for example`
`23:35.19`	`NeoTron`	`NightHawkTheSane: think GPL here I guess. GPL tries to enforce licensing`
`23:35.30`	`Polarina`	`NeoTron: Blizzard is downloading all your installed addons with Warden.`
`23:35.34`	`NeoTron`	`perhaps it is more of a thing with open source than closed source software`
`23:35.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`Warden is probably also reading all your irc chat too IMO`
`23:35.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: not sure what you mean there, though?`
`23:36.03`	`Pkekyo\|`	`now that we're discussing copyrights etc.... would it be illegal or bad for me to rewrite addons to fit my needs if I do not redistribute them?`
`23:36.06`	`NeoTron`	`GPL is contagious`
`23:36.14`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, now I can't even find the clause in the TOU or whatever that even implies they might have some ownership claim over addons. Maybe they ninja removed it. Or maybe I was hallucinating...`
`23:36.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`There's really no problem creating L/GPL'd software using a non-opensource sdk`
`23:36.22`	`tedrock`	`Codayus: true. but i still have this on my side for music http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html`
`23:36.27`	`Tain`	`It isn't like there isn't precident. Bioware always maintained that mods for Neverwinter Nights were owned by them.`
`23:36.28`	`KarlThePagan`	`but to be fair Polarina I don't think Warden downloads actual text... they download hashes of text to look for signatures they think are bad`
`23:36.33`	`NeoTron`	`Pkekyo\|: that would depend on the license wouldn't it?`
`23:36.38`	`Codayus`	`tedrock: Granted.`
`23:36.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Pkekyo\|: technically speaking, if it wasn't under a license that allowed it, then yes`
`23:36.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hey`
`23:36.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis`
`23:36.50`	`Polarina`	`KarlThePagan: And if it is not bad, they download it. :)`
`23:36.52`	`NeoTron`	`in fact without an explicit license, what is the terms?`
`23:36.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`start flirting with me so they all get a boner and shut up, this discussion is getting boring`
`23:37.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:(`
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`23:37.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`without any license specified, the original owner retains all rights. no one else has any rights not explicitly granted by the copyright holder.`
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`23:37.39`	`Antiarc`	`NightHawkTheSane hit it on the head.`
`23:37.42`	`NeoTron`	`US Copyright law, International law, law of the country of origin of the author? the distribution point?`
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`23:37.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`Polarina, yea... not sure about that, do you read onwarden.blogspot?`
`23:37.55`	`Codayus`	`Without an explicit license, it gets tricky. If its in the US, it defaults to normal copyright on anything applicable. Which basically means, you have no rights to do ANYTHING.`
`23:38.15`	`Polarina`	`KarlThePagan: No.`
`23:38.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, to be sure, i'm basing my judgements off US Copyright law. I'm not familiar with how it is in other countries.`
`23:38.28`	`Codayus`	`If it's not in the US, it generally defaults to the same base position; the US has been good at blackmailing other countries into compliance.`
`23:38.33`	`NeoTron`	`what about "fair use"?`
`23:38.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`it's a nice site which critiques warden... the guy is pretty sharp`
`23:38.56`	`Polarina`	`KarlThePagan: I think Warden is good.`
`23:39.03`	`NeoTron`	`if I put my book on the web as a PDF, what rights do people have ? able to read it for themself? hand it to a friend? ( I don't know)`
`23:39.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`I don't think it's bad... not yet`
`23:39.29`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: depends on how you licensed it, that's what things like CC are for`
`23:39.42`	`Tain`	`I think Warden is bad. Countered!`
`23:39.46`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: If you publish it to a public venue, it's -possible- that a court would find that you are granting an implicit license to consume the book`
`23:39.46`	`Codayus`	`NeoTron: People can review it, they can quote small excerpts, they can parody it...a few other things.`
`23:39.53`	`Antiarc`	`Though there's no right to redistribute or sell it.`
`23:39.56`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: fair use is basically the sole exception to copyright.`
`23:40.11`	`Codayus`	`They can't simply copy it, redistribute, or sell it.`
`23:40.17`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: basically I meant if you not explicedly state licensing`
`23:40.24`	`Hotphoenix`	`the problem is that in the world wide web you are dealling with international law which is a big gray area`
`23:40.31`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: see past ten minutes of conversation`
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`23:41.01`	`balstor`	`international law : once it gets to china you can kiss all your revune and rights good bye`
`23:41.11`	`NeoTron`	`I know licenses can grant rights, but what is fair use if you put it on a public venue without a license.`
`23:41.32`	`Antiarc`	`Review, use small excerpts, and parody`
`23:41.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NeoTron: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml`
`23:41.34`	`Antiarc`	`That's about it`
`23:41.44`	`Hotphoenix`	`once its on the web its basicly ffa as much as anyone cares unless you have massive amounts of money`
`23:41.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Antiarc: research/news reporting also`
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`23:41.59`	`Antiarc`	`NightHawkTheSane: Ah, yes`
`23:42.09`	`Codayus`	`NeoTron: You aren't paying attention. If your write it, you own it. You have copyright. Nobody can do ANYTHING to it except fair use, and fair use exemptions are very limited.`
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`23:42.29`	`Antiarc`	`NeoTron: That's why the RIAA can't go after people downloading music`
`23:42.32`	`Antiarc`	`They go after people UPLOADING music.`
`23:42.38`	`Antiarc`	`They go after the distributors`
`23:42.53`	`Antiarc`	`Listening to pirated music isn't illegal - distributing music without a license is.`
`23:42.59`	`Tain`	`Codayus: You might have copyright, but realistic enforcement goes out the window.`
`23:42.59`	`NivFreak`	`that's not stricktly true`
`23:43.10`	`Antiarc`	`Well, in the general case.`
`23:43.16`	`NivFreak`	`the RIAA does go after people that download :)`
`23:43.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Tain: well, enforcement is another matter entirely.`
`23:43.24`	`Antiarc`	`NivFreak: Because their software also uploads`
`23:43.27`	`Hotphoenix`	`the riaa does it to make money`
`23:43.35`	`Antiarc`	`If you download and never upload a single bit, you're free and clear, legally.`
`23:43.42`	`Tain`	`No, the RIAA does it to maintain contorl.`
`23:43.47`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah`
`23:43.56`	`Antiarc`	`They have to maintain control of distribution, or they die`
`23:44.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`23:44.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`the RIAA does it for FUD`
`23:44.04`	`NivFreak`	`that would be a shame if they died`
`23:44.06`	`NivFreak`	`heh`
`23:44.10`	`Tain`	`Ant that's not true either, Antiarc. You're just small potatoes, but you're not free and clear legally.`
`23:44.12`	`NivFreak`	`terrible shame! :P`
`23:44.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`NivFreak: yeah, i'd cry for seconds on end.`
`23:44.22`	`balstor`	`remember the RIAA is an alliance of publishers for efending their copyright on material,`
`23:44.23`	`Antiarc`	`Tain: Mmm. Possession of stolen goods, I guess?`
`23:44.35`	`Tain`	`It's just not worth anyone's time to go after the one guy who downloads a lot.`
`23:44.37`	`Antiarc`	`Though I don't know how that would apply to copies of a work rather than actual goods.`
`23:44.57`	`Antiarc`	`Tain: Are you familiar with the statutes covering that? I'm drawing a blank.`
`23:45.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Eh, to be honest, any one purely downloading could probably get off if they're clever enough with 'fair use' :P`
`23:45.17`	`Antiarc`	`I wouldn't be surprised if they're there, but the whole piracy flap is always centered on distribution for a reason`
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`23:45.32`	`Tain`	`It's unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted works, I believe.`
`23:45.38`	`Tain`	`But I'm not an expert by any means.`
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`23:45.52`	`Antiarc`	`Tain: It's the distributor that's producing the copy, I think, legally`
`23:46.21`	`Antiarc`	`It's all very murky :P`
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`23:55.30`	`Antiarc`	`So uh`
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`23:55.35`	`Antiarc`	`They claim the files have been removed`
`23:55.43`	`Antiarc`	`And yet, I can still download straight from their site.`
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`23:57.00`	`Wobwork`	`PS, I thought the RIAA was going after downloaders`
`23:57.15`	`Antiarc`	`Wobwork: They go after people on uploading charges`
`23:57.18`	`Wobwork`	`thus all the petty suits against housewives etc etc`
`23:57.22`	`Antiarc`	`Because P2P software uploads while it downloads`
`23:57.28`	`Wobwork`	`ah rightio`
`23:57.42`	`Antiarc`	`So Betty Housewife is sharing 130 songs when she downloads the new Toby Keith single`
`23:58.02`	`Antiarc`	`So she owes 130 * $50,000 = $6,500,000 :V`
`23:58.23`	`Chompers`	`IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\text.txt'`
`23:58.26`	`Chompers`	`but it exists!`
`23:58.48`	`Chompers`	`i even typed 'cheese' into it`
`23:59.57`	`Antiarc`	`Try c:/text.txt`

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