IRC log for #wowace on 20071117

00:00.02Gnarfozprobably :p
00:00.12Pkekyo~seen nevcairiel
00:00.15purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 1h 58m 34s) #wowace (1d 1h 58m 34s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 6m 26s, last said: 'just did him yesterday'.
00:00.17Gnarfozhe's here
00:00.17Ellipsisoh, sorry ulic - oldversion.com
00:00.22ulicah
00:00.47GnarfozEllipsis: http://bp3.blogger.com/_TVfEjAyW4Fk/RzumwgusGqI/AAAAAAAAEN0/VY7ZToFFS7Y/s1600-h/8.jpg
00:00.51aestilwtf, Diao , colors... no color picker?
00:00.54Pkekyooy a-stray-cat! CdT2s default profile...does it reset on addon update?
00:01.04a-stray-catit shouldnt
00:01.08a-stray-catif it is something is wonky
00:01.14Diaono idea
00:01.23a-stray-catmine certainly hasn't been resetting
00:01.32Diaoask the author about that aestil :P
00:01.41ulicEllipsis: only 2.1.4 for windows :( but I'll remember that site, thanks.
00:01.48Pkekyonevcairiel: how to set pet bar hotkeys with Bartender3?
00:01.55Ellipsisit will likely show up soon enough, now that 3.0 has replaced it
00:01.56a-stray-catsorry aestil, it uses candybar, which uses paintchips
00:01.59Pkekyoa-stray-cat: ok, cheers...will look into it
00:02.15a-stray-catand i dont really know how paintchips works
00:02.17Diaopet bar hotkeys
00:02.19a-stray-catso i didnt add a color picker thing
00:02.24Diaoare in keybindings
00:02.36Diaoi believe it uses the default keybindings for it
00:02.39Pkekyohttp://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/Gooday2000/WoWScrnShot_102507_203347.jpg wtf?
00:02.56PkekyoDiao: where in keybindings? been through the bloody list several times without finding it
00:03.12Diaostandard interface, action bar functions
00:03.18Ellipsisit's like a "special action bar" or something stupid
00:03.20Diaosecondary action button 1-10
00:03.25Ellipsissecondary action button
00:03.25a-stray-catPkekyo: thats kinda cool, is it a wotlk mount?
00:03.26Ellipsisthat's the ones
00:03.28Diaospecial action button 1-10 is stance bar
00:03.39Fisker-i fucking hate pugs
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00:03.42Fisker-last time _EVER_
00:03.47Ellipsisyeah right Fisker-
00:03.52Pkekyoa-stray-cat: no clue
00:03.54Freedon:o
00:03.58Fisker-"Ok get out so i can cast divine intervention"
00:04.00Diaoi haven't pugged for months
00:04.01Freedontekkub
00:04.04Fisker-"Whos talking, where do i run?!"
00:04.08Freedonwhy'd you leave icecrown :(
00:04.15Fisker-*casts divine intervention"
00:04.24Fisker-"Ok when it's over click off the debuff and ress me"
00:04.26Freedonanyhow, can someone help me with oUF :S
00:04.29Fisker-"I can't"
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00:04.34Fisker-...
00:04.39Freedon:(
00:04.59Diaoyou have to configure it with lua
00:05.02Diaoas far as i know
00:05.05Fisker-also
00:05.08Fisker-i forgot my fucking quest
00:05.13FreedonDiao: the example layout?
00:05.21Diaoi think so
00:05.28Diaoi haven't used it personally but a friend of mine does
00:05.36Diaoand he had to modify the lua
00:05.50Freedonoh, so do I copy the lua from the example layout into the oUF addon itself?
00:06.00Diao1 sec
00:06.14Freedonhaste: /poke
00:06.37Diaoi thikn you modify the ouf_examplelayout1
00:06.39aestilis there a 'grey' paint chips?
00:06.40Diaothe layout.lua in there
00:06.40hasteFreedon: /flip
00:06.42Diaoand it should do it
00:07.00hasteFreedon: you just load oUF_ExampleLayout1 as any other add-on
00:07.11Freedonhaste: tried that
00:07.19Freedonnot showing up on the addon list for some strange reason
00:07.30hastethen you are doing something odd :)
00:07.59Freedonagreed :S
00:08.29Freedondid I check out the wrong stuff from your svn?
00:08.46Gnarfozhm
00:08.48a-stray-cataestil: not by default ;<
00:08.52Diaough
00:08.59Diaowhy is it that as soon as there's a goal to win a battleground
00:09.01Gnarfozis there something like GetMouseFocus():GetName() for click-thru frames?
00:09.04Diaohorde becomes retarded and can't win a single game
00:09.15NivFreakhaha
00:09.17Freedonbecause the alliance are trying to win now?
00:09.22NivFreakBG9 has been terrible at AB lately
00:09.28Diaoyes it has
00:09.30NivFreakfor horde
00:09.33Diaoand now i've lost 4 eots in a row
00:09.34NivFreakit's a sad thing
00:09.38NivFreakEotS is bad too
00:09.42Diaothis is terrible
00:09.51NivFreakWSG/AV are ok
00:09.57FreedonEoTS is not a bg imo
00:09.58NivFreakat least if I'm flag running WSG is fun ;)
00:10.02Freedonit's a failed pvp area
00:10.06Diaoi just need to win 1 eots
00:10.09Diaofor this stupid quest
00:10.11NivFreakhaha
00:10.13Diaoand horde can't seem to do anything right :(
00:10.14NivFreakwhat realm?
00:10.26Diaoblackrock
00:10.32Freedonfffs
00:10.46NivFreakdoes anyone run premades on blackrock?
00:10.52Diaopug premades occasionally
00:10.54Diaonot very often
00:11.15Diaolike yesterday
00:11.20Diaoi spent 3 hours in ab trying to do the dumb quest
00:11.20Freedonhaste: also
00:11.25NivFreakWe have one guild on frostwolf that runs premades
00:11.30NivFreakbut I admit, they are pretty hit or miss
00:11.30Diaogot annoyed and just grabbed like 5 guildies
00:11.32Freedonhaste: i'm using ochat and i can't shift-click to who,
00:11.36Diaoand we stomped the alliance
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00:11.47NivFreakAB is terrible in our BG now
00:11.50NivFreakI don't know what happened
00:11.54NivFreakwe used to 4 cap them in pugs
00:12.13hasteFreedon: I can :o
00:12.16NivFreaknow everyone just zergs around
00:12.19NivFreaklike a bunch of morons
00:12.31Diaoyeah
00:12.34Diaolike i said
00:12.39Diaoas soon as we started the bg daily quests
00:12.43Diaohorde became retarded
00:12.47NivFreakit was before that sadly
00:12.54Diaoi dunno
00:13.00hasteFreedon: actually I see the error :p
00:13.02NivFreakWe do well on BG weekends
00:13.04Diaoi was winning like 80% pugs before the dailies were implemented
00:13.10Freedonhaste: =o
00:13.11Diaoand now we're just getting stomped left and right
00:14.46NivFreakI like the new AV though
00:14.52NivFreakit's gonna be great until they fix it
00:14.54NivFreak(for horde)
00:16.51Diaofix it?
00:17.33Freedonhaste: i deleted all my saved variables, wtf folder, etc. hopefully ouf_example layout shows... <3 your addons like always :p
00:17.35hasteFreedon: fix committed
00:18.22Freedonhaste: thanks <3
00:18.23NivFreakDiao: if we stop alliance at SH and retake SF, we can really destroy the alliance's resources
00:18.33Diaowell yeah
00:18.41NivFreakwhich is _very_ easy to do
00:18.50Freedonhaste: you know any way to get the example layout to work
00:18.51NivFreakso you send people to defend galv, choke off SH
00:18.55Freedonany "hard" code way?
00:18.58NivFreakretake SF
00:19.03NivFreakand then just hold them at SH forever
00:19.06NivFreakand we win
00:19.20NivFreakthere's really no way for them to get by SH
00:19.23hasteFreedon: I don't understand what you mean with 'to work' there
00:19.32NivFreakthe benifit of that choke point has drastically reversed :)
00:19.38hasteFreedon: it does work as long as both oUF and oUF_ExampleLayout1 is loaded
00:19.57Freedonooooh
00:20.00Freedoni think i found the problem
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00:21.04Freedonhaste: found it
00:21.50Freedonhaste: the addon Ouf_Examplelayout1.toc has the dependency  listed as oUFlayout.lua when there layout is listed as layout.lua
00:22.32Freedononce i took out the oUF it showed up on the addon list
00:22.34hasteFreedon: don't use notepad :(
00:23.06Freedonwhat happens when i use notepad :S
00:23.17KarlThePaganfeithar, thekarn, Antiarc - I've got some Sanity2 fixes for 2.3 and wanted to chat about sanity and guild banks
00:23.21hasteFreedon: all my add-ons / files have unix line-endings, which notepad ignores
00:23.39AntiarcSure, what's up?
00:23.39hasteFreedon: oUF and the example are exactly the same as I use
00:24.01Freedonah
00:24.08KarlThePaganfirst the dead simple fix - mail attachments are working, I just peeked at BM2I and copied that
00:24.23Freedonhaste: so how do I stop this madness :S
00:24.32KarlThePaganquestion on that, the mailbox index - i'm just handing out arbitrary numbers
00:24.42hasteFreedon: I have no idea
00:24.57KarlThePaganthe alternative is numbering 1-600 according to mail item and attachment number (1-12) which will result in a very sparse list
00:25.11KarlThePagandoes it matter?
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00:26.34breserJust an FYI, FuBar_DPS has Metrognome listed as an OptionalDeps but it doesn't work without it.
00:27.31CIA-4tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r710 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/23_24_Darkshore.lua: TourGuide: tweaks to 23-24
00:27.45KarlThePagansecond, it's always driven me crazy that I don't know what bags my alts have equipped... so I wanna extend the inventory scanning to include the 4 equipped bags, and also scan inventory slots 68-74 when the player opens the bank
00:28.05KarlThePaganand give the bank bag slots a "virtual bag" SANITY_BANK_SLOTS_ID = -97
00:28.36KarlThePaganand i have to update GetBagNameFor to accomodate that change
00:28.41Freedonugggh
00:28.44Freedonhaste
00:29.07Freedonhaste: even with my "newb" fix, it doesnt work anyway i can change the shittiness of notepad
00:29.23Freedonhaste: or am i forever cursed to not use ouf :(
00:29.47hasteFreedon: verify the folder names
00:30.00hasteand just don't trust the line endings in notepad :D
00:30.10Freedonhaste: what do you mean by that? :S
00:30.10KarlThePaganfinally for guild bank stuff, the scanning logic should be it's own separate addon - but a few constants in sanity cache are neccessary to keep the impl simple
00:30.34KarlThePaganso I was going to make 6 more bag ids for the guild bank bags - SANITY_GUILD_BAGS = {-96,-95,-94,-93,-92,-91}
00:30.44hasteFreedon: notepad doesn't understand the unix line endings, so it looks like all the text is just one big blob
00:30.48KarlThePaganAntiarc, sound reasonable so far?
00:31.08hasteFreedon: and if you don't see oUF_ExampleLayout1 in your AddOns list, then it's most likely because the folder doesn't match the name of the TOC
00:31.17Freedon!
00:31.20KarlThePaganso far I've tested the new mail and wearing bags
00:31.39KarlThePaganneed to fix the bank slots, but that's it
00:31.44Freedonhaste: i see what notepad did, try # 6 :p
00:32.02AntiarcArbitrary numbers on mail sounds fine. I'm fine with a new virtual bag for equipped bags. The new guild bag slots sound fine
00:32.10XuerianAlright. What are the irc names of the two maintaining wowaceupdater >.o
00:32.13hasteFreedon: fetch any other editor :p
00:32.17AntiarcWhen you have it working, feel free to commit. I just don't have time to maintain it right now :/
00:32.21hastenotepad should be avoided
00:32.25KarlThePaganyea np... I know the feeling
00:32.33Freedonhaste: switched to wordpad already
00:32.33AntiarcNotepad++ is my editor of choice
00:32.47hasteFreedon: okay, that's not a text editor :p
00:32.57Freedonoh damn
00:32.58hasteFreedon: it can break code more tahn notepad can
00:32.58Freedonwtfs
00:33.06Freedonffs?
00:33.14KarlThePaganone more thing Antiarc ... I've noticed that the specialized containers (mining bags etc) aren't being searched... not sure exactly what's up but that's my last itch to scratch
00:33.21hastescite, notepad2, notepad++, vim, emacs, ultraedit and so on
00:33.28Antiarchttp://sourceforge.net/projects/notepad-plus/
00:33.34AntiarcKarlThePagan: Huh. That seems a bit odd.
00:33.51hasteFreedon: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors
00:34.12KarlThePaganyea, if I get stuck on it I'll ping you again
00:34.20Freedonso i don't go on wowace irc for 6+ monthes and so much stuff changes :p figures? :S
00:35.06Freedonhaste: holy bejeebus
00:35.09Freedonhaste: it works
00:35.14hasteD:
00:35.19Freedonhaste: btw, there's a spelling error on the .toc
00:35.26haste:-(
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00:35.27Freedonits like oUF_ExampleLayou1
00:35.35hastein title?
00:35.35Freedonadded in the t and viola!
00:35.38Freedonyar
00:35.55hasteshouldn't have anything to say
00:36.03Freedonomgs
00:36.03Fisker-i hate you haste
00:36.06Freedonits beautiful
00:36.07hastebased on the fact that it loads here and for others :p
00:36.28Freedonany options i can use?
00:36.36hastenope :p
00:38.39Freedon!
00:38.43Freedonsimplicity ftw?
00:38.57hasteIt's the example of what oUF can do
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00:39.10hasteand in it's own way a base for people to work from / documentation
00:39.18hasteoUF still lacks lots of code tho' :(
00:39.45Freedonhaste
00:39.53Freedonit looked amazing 1 year ago
00:39.56Freedonit looks amazing now
00:40.01Freedonkeep it the way it is <3333
00:40.10Varazir[NA]rgd editors http://www.pspad.com/ is nice
00:40.38Freedonso i had to delete my wtf folder
00:40.51Freedonand i cant even find the fubar transparency thing
00:41.03Freedon(for the bar itself)
00:41.50CIA-403grennon * r55064 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurnin.lua: AutoTurnin: added tcount, removed getn, and hopefully got the mod working again
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00:42.32Freedonsomeone help
00:42.36Freedonthe addon gods are against me!
00:42.54Freedonnvm
00:42.56Freedonim an idiot
00:44.04GoldPushgah
00:44.10GoldPushteron gorefiend to 24% on 4th attempt with 24 men
00:44.12GoldPushand we had to call it :(
00:44.44Freedonwhy?
00:45.01GoldPushpeople had to leave
00:45.07Freedonfail @ your raid :p
00:45.38Freedon4th attempt ever?
00:45.38GoldPushSuch an easy boss though
00:45.42GoldPushyes Freedon
00:45.49Freedonwow
00:45.53GoldPushwe did anatheron tonight for first time in 2 attempts
00:46.00Freedongonna have to bring in new people for the fight
00:46.07Freedonwho will fail @ ghosting imos
00:46.14GoldPushactually we did rage in first 2, najentus to 1% with 24 man in 5 attempts then went back and killed it in 5-6 attempts with full raid week later
00:46.15aestilis rampage one of those abilities where you lose dps by keeping it up due to GCD and 20 rage spent?
00:46.17GoldPushsupremus was 2 attempts
00:46.19GoldPushakama was 2 attempts
00:46.24GoldPushanatheron was 2 attempts
00:46.29FreedonD:
00:46.43Freedoneh i heard the first couple of fights in BT are supa easy
00:46.49GoldPushthey are
00:46.55Freedonmeh
00:46.56GoldPushexcept najentus, can be a bit harsh on healing
00:47.03GoldPushwe tried with 6 healers and no shadowpriest
00:47.06Freedonif only i still cared about raiding
00:47.06GoldPushwas extremely hard
00:47.11GoldPush7 healers and sp it was ezmode
00:47.29CIA-403speeddymon * r55065 10AutomaticLFG/AutomaticLFG.toc:
00:47.29CIA-4AutomaticLFG:
00:47.29CIA-4-Up TOC
00:47.31Freedonone of the guild on my server tried to get a sp for every group o
00:47.55Freedonpro move? you decide :p
00:48.13CIA-403speeddymon * r55066 10Postman/Postman.toc:
00:48.13CIA-4Postman:
00:48.13CIA-4- Up TOC
00:48.23a-stray-catwhy does the melee group need a sp? ;p
00:48.31buuTanks need sp imo.
00:48.32GoldPushstupid move
00:48.36Freedonheals :p
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00:48.38GoldPush3 SP max tbh
00:48.46Freedonthat was there idea during ssc
00:48.46AntiarcFeral druid > SP for melee heals
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00:50.03ChompersAntiarc: what does your guild do with hunters?
00:50.19AntiarcMmm. Let me see.
00:50.23Freedonmy guess, puts them in the melee group if bm :S
00:50.32Chompersour hunters are complaining about not being appreciated enough
00:50.39AntiarcNah, our melee group is 33/28 war, feral druid, enh shaman, 2x rogue
00:50.42Chompersthey want a shadow priest for mana
00:50.48Chompersand a feral druid for crit
00:51.01CIA-403speeddymon * r55067 10StanceSetsFu/StanceSetsFu.toc:
00:51.01CIA-4StanceSetsFu:
00:51.01CIA-4- Up TOC
00:51.01Freedonl2 have mana pots?
00:51.05AntiarcLooks like we end up 2x BM hunter, lock, mage, feral druid
00:51.10AntiarcSorta looks like the leftover group :P
00:51.20Chompersthey say they're raid filler
00:51.32a-stray-cati try to get an spriest as a hunter :<
00:51.38a-stray-catferal druids nice, but spriest is better imo
00:51.58a-stray-catlast raid we had 4xbm hunter + 1 spriest, it was pretty interesting
00:52.02Chompersthey want a shaman over the melee groups
00:52.04AntiarcTank group is 2x prot warrior, warlock, paladin, tree, caster 1 is spriest, holy priest, tree, holy paladin, arcane mage
00:52.10Freedonanyone know how to let your firewall not block vent?
00:52.11Chompersas 'melee don't need more dps or buffs'
00:52.13AntiarcOoh, wiat
00:52.14GoldPushwe take one hunter MAX
00:52.16GoldPushsometimes 2
00:52.16AntiarcThis isn't our normal group
00:52.16Freedonnewest version screwed me over :(
00:52.17GoldPushand then we cry
00:52.28a-stray-catwhy the hate :<
00:52.39Gagorian-Freedon: That quite much depends on what FW you use :p
00:52.46Freedonsunbelt
00:52.58GoldPusheasy
00:53.03GoldPushall our hunters ever have been and are shit
00:53.07GoldPushnever seen a good hunter
00:53.13GoldPushwe barely take them for misdirect
00:53.14Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_091907_211144.jpg <-- grid, groups are horizontal
00:53.17GoldPushand a nice survival buff
00:53.24a-stray-catget better hunters imo :<
00:53.44Freedonantiarc: /CRY
00:53.48aestilbuu: mages and hunters need SP
00:53.49Diaomelee dps group is fury warr, enh sham, feral druid, ret pally, rogue/hunter
00:53.51Diao:D
00:53.52Freedonwhy can't my ui have like 4 buttons to actually use :S
00:53.54Diaoall buffs for the warrior
00:53.55aestilfollowed very closely by warlocks
00:53.55Freedonerr class
00:53.59aestiland then lastly, healers.
00:54.07buuaestil: Dude, as long as there's on in the raid I'm good.
00:54.11a-stray-catwhy do warlocks need spriests :/
00:54.16buuaestil: He's great fun on lurker though.
00:54.24buua-stray-cat: They use the most mana of any class in the game?
00:54.25aestila-stray-cat: warlock needs SP before a healer does
00:54.31AntiarcHeh, that's an old UI shot
00:54.36a-stray-catcan't they just lifetap?
00:54.36aestiltheir dps still goes down when they LT
00:54.40a-stray-catah
00:54.43DiaoLT or DP
00:54.52buuLT is like 1.5k mana for 1.5 seconds
00:54.54buu=[
00:54.55aestilyeah, thats why they are the last dps priority
00:55.08aestilmages/hunters > than locks > healers
00:55.09buuAn average lock will have over -800 mp5
00:55.11Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_111107_204609.jpg is more recent
00:55.11Chompersyou're doing leo Antiarc
00:55.13Chomperswhat fun
00:55.25Diaohealers last? o-o
00:55.47Freedonlol at raid warning :S
00:55.47a-stray-catlawl flying V
00:56.05Freedonwhy cant my ui be beautiful
00:56.14Freedoni have yet to see one beautiful feral druid ui :(
00:57.13Pkekyoflying V? rofl
00:57.49FreedonBTW Antiarc:
00:57.53AntiarcThe flying V is our secret victory maneuver
00:57.56Chompersthis is hilarious
00:57.58Freedonthere's a new update for omen
00:58.12KeiasDo you guys quack like ducks too?
00:58.13Chompersim on vent listening to drunk hunters arguing
00:58.15KeiasThat'd be pretty awesome
00:58.20|Stan|telling him that is like "WTF"
00:58.21|Stan|:p
00:58.27AntiarcNo, we do not quack :P
00:58.33AntiarcFreedon: Elaborate?
00:58.45Freedonit says new update on your ui screen :p
00:58.49AntiarcOh, heh
00:58.50Freedonfor omen D:
00:58.52a-stray-catwhat do drunk hunters argue about?
00:59.02AntiarcI only update when -I- make changes <_<
00:59.05Freedoni was gonna say you got mail but...
00:59.07AntiarcI don't really care about zhTW localizations!
00:59.08Pkekyoa-stray-cat: beastiality
00:59.18Freedonquick guys
00:59.22a-stray-cati shouldn't have asked ; ;
00:59.27Freedonsomeone find me a beautiful feral druid so I can model after it !
00:59.29Pkekyomore specificly, 'how-to: beastiality'
00:59.45Freedonbtw
00:59.50Freedoni find it lame that teron gorefiend is so easy
01:00.05a-stray-catour guild failed on him last time
01:00.07Freedonhis lore = pwnage
01:00.15a-stray-cathalf of our raid had buggy pet bars
01:00.21Freedonhe should be before illidan, eff illidari council
01:01.00Freedonhttp://www.wowwiki.com/images/thumb/4/46/GorefiendWow.jpg/800px-GorefiendWow.jpg
01:01.07Freedonplus he looked cooler before they changed the model imo
01:01.09Freedont5 lock ftw
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01:02.17UrulokeHeya people
01:03.41Pkekyog'nite all
01:03.42Fisker-FINALLY
01:03.44Fisker-:I
01:03.48Fisker-almost 4 hours shadow lab run
01:03.55UrulokeI'm having an action blocked due tainting from Quixote. The variable CONTAINER_OFFSET_Y gets tainted by Quixote which in turn is used by QuestsFu's tracker...
01:03.59Fisker-and the best thing ever?
01:04.05Fisker-when we got to murmur
01:04.19Fisker-i realized that for some reason i didn't have the daily heroic quest for shadow labs
01:04.28Fisker-best 4 hours evar
01:04.29Pkekyomeh, I keep saying 'soccer' when talking to brits and 'football' when talking to americans...should be the other way around >.<
01:05.13buuFisker-: HA HA YOU SUCK.
01:05.14buu=]
01:05.43KemayoUruloke: Quixote is in the execution path, I don't think it's actually the thing doing the tainting.
01:06.28UrulokeKemayo: Hmm... well, that's what the new taintlog they implemented shows anyway.
01:06.52UrulokeGlobal variable CONTAINER_OFFSET_Y tainted by Quixote - setglobal()
01:07.34KemayoCould you pastey the entire taintlog -- ace.pastey.net
01:07.37Fisker-fuck you buu
01:07.39UrulokeFollowed by Execution tainted by Quixote while reading CONTAINER_OFFSET_Y - Interface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:521 updateContainerFrameAnchors() and then lots of An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Quixote - <insert function>
01:07.40Fisker-good night
01:07.45UrulokeSure
01:08.54UrulokeKemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/77441
01:10.27ChompersFisker-
01:10.30Chompershai
01:10.40Chompershow was leo, did you kill him yet?
01:12.38xerawxi really don't understand how anyone in their right mind would call a sport by the same name as another entirely distinct sport
01:13.10xerawxi'm sure there's some funny story involving the assisination of some figurehead behind it
01:14.17xerawxespecially since "american" football doesn't really involve much combination of feet and balls
01:15.13xerawxi think they should be force to rename it pigskin arena deathmatch
01:15.29UrulokeDefinately deathmatch
01:16.18xerawxand instead of field goals they have unarmed fights to the death between linebackers
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01:18.16UrulokeKemayo: Any ideas?
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01:22.34vrakare others getting a rather screwy armoury nowadays?
01:23.28a-stray-catthey just updated it
01:23.37CIA-403kemayo * r55068 10LootSink/ (. LootSink.toc core.lua embeds.xml lib/): LootSink: Initial import. Announce looted items.
01:23.38a-stray-cati think the new upadates are pretty cool
01:24.44vrakarmoury?
01:24.49FinTekkub: I can't find my Tour Guide button - is there a way to reset its position, or bring up the TG window or something?
01:24.50CIA-403kemayo * r55069 10LootSink/lib/: LootSink: Externals.
01:25.11KemayoUruloke: Okay, now I'm done with that I will take a look at quixote.
01:25.15vrakit's completely unusable for me, freezes whatever browser i'm using, if it ever comes up
01:25.29UrulokeKemayo: Okay
01:25.42Tekkubit's clamped to screen, did the addon error out on load?
01:26.04Finno, but it might be hiding behind something
01:26.31Finhmm
01:26.58Finwhat's the name of the TG button frame?
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01:31.49Finoh, now there's errors
01:32.04Fin[2007/11/17 02:31:13-3188-x2]: TourGuide\TourGuide.lua:282: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'i' (a nil value)
01:32.18CIA-403sorren * r55070 10CooldownTimers2/embeds.xml:
01:32.18CIA-4CooldownTimers2:
01:32.18CIA-4- When switching to embeds.xml, make sure to include the embeds.xml. Sigh.
01:33.23Finballs, I can't complete quests because of that :/
01:34.30KarlThePaganany Sanity2 users watching?
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01:36.52Andunehmm.  which mod is responsible for the new-and-improved track menu with tracking repair, inkeeper, flightmaster, etc?  is that a 2.3 thing?
01:36.59Tekkub2.3
01:37.13Andunewell dammit, it reset it's position and I can't seem to move it.  grr.
01:37.29Tekkubit has a new name
01:38.07Andunehmm.  used to be able to shift-click or alt-click or something to move it.  maybe it squeenix making life easy for me.
01:38.19Anduneerb, it was, rather
01:38.52CIA-403kemayo * r55071 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tracker/ (FuBar_QuestsFu_Tracker.toc Tracker.lua):
01:38.53CIA-4FuBar_QuestsFu:
01:38.53CIA-4-Tracker: Try to avoid taint complaints.
01:39.02KemayoUruloke: I think that should fix things
01:39.44Freedontekkub
01:39.47Freedonwhy you leave me :(
01:40.01FreedonLEFT ME ALONE WITH SHADOWD ON ICECROWN
01:40.09Freedonhaste: anyone to hide ouf in raids
01:40.28KarlThePaganAndune - simpleMinimap can move that
01:40.31Tekkubcome to A52 then
01:40.51Andunekarlthepagan:  thx, I may dump squeenix and give that a shot
01:40.57Freedonpay for my transfer tekkub <3
01:41.10Tekkubyou're the one whining not me
01:41.21KarlThePagansmm is sometimes better, sometimes not... if you do switch remember to "unlock" the minimap before you go crazy trying to move locked minimap icons
01:41.43TekkubSqueenix on my SVN moves it :P
01:42.11KarlThePaganah
01:42.22Andunetekkub:  just shift-clicking?
01:42.33CIA-403karlthepagan * r55072 10SanityItemCache/ (3 files):
01:42.33CIA-4SanityItemCache:
01:42.33CIA-4- Added support for 2.3 mailboxes (12 attachments)
01:42.33CIA-4- Added indexing of equipped bag items (inventory 20-23 are "worn" bags, 68-74 are "bank" bags)
01:42.33CIA-4- Conform to some WoW bag number constants
01:42.35CIA-4- Added constants to support guild bank indexing
01:42.42Tekkubno, squeenix never let the user move em
01:42.50Tekkubit just repositions them to the square
01:42.53KarlThePaganplx test ^^ be cruel... I can take it
01:43.22Andunetekkub:  hmm.  I used to have it positioned at the top-left of the square.  So I used to be able to move it.
01:43.42Tekkubwasn't squeenix
01:44.11Andunewell whatever it was, it ain't workin anymore.  Karl sez smm will do it, I'll give it a spin..
01:44.12Freedontekkub: nah, i just hate shadowd's negative attitude
01:44.23Tekkubso transfer :P
01:44.35Freedonbut but but
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01:46.30hyperChipmunkmehhh you need a spanner to make ammo now
01:48.45KarlThePaganyet another silly decorative item which needs to fit on your keyring
01:48.53KemayoAndune: SimpleMinimap, perhaps?
01:49.09KarlThePaganwouldn't that be a hot engineering item? "pocket spanner" - engineering tools that fit in your keyring :P
01:49.21KemayoThat would be pretty awesome.
01:49.32KarlThePaganjewler
01:49.38hyperChipmunkjust gimmeh a multitool
01:49.39KarlThePaganjewler's kit maybe...
01:49.54Andunekemayo:  I tried it once, but at the time I liked Squeenix better.  I'm pretty sure all i had installed was Squeenix when I moved it, but who knows, maybe I had some other minimap-button-mover mod installed.
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01:50.15hyperChipmunkhammer, spanner, adjustor, pick all in one
01:50.25Andunejust removed squeenix and installed simpleminimap, we'll see how I like it this time around  :)
01:51.08hyperChipmunkit should have a unique look when hammering at an anvil, too
01:51.15hyperChipmunkdifferent from blacksmithing
01:51.45hyperChipmunkwith like, a scope or some other crazy attachments on it
01:53.45KarlThePaganp.s. hyperChipmunk <3 bulkmail supporting all the attachments... i'm such a mailbox whore...
01:54.00KarlThePaganso far I've got 370 or so items bouncing to one alt
01:54.04KarlThePagan2g of mail every month
01:54.22UrulokeKemayo: Cool, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Need some sleep now :)
01:55.18UrulokeGood night people
01:55.22XuerianKarlThePagan: I'd like a Tool Belt, personally
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01:55.36Xuerianhammer, pick, spanner, screwdriver, etc
01:55.45KarlThePaganone suggestion if you get around to it hyperChipmunk: I'd like a count of the number of attached items... I've eventually learned to look for 3s 60c, 7s 20c, etc so i know if i'm being perfectly efficient
01:56.03KarlThePaganXuerian, that's a nice compromise... a cloth utility belt that satisfies all professions tools maybe?
01:56.07CIA-403roartindon * r55073 10Assessment/CoreModules/GroupMembers.lua: Assessment: Added ClassColor tag, eg: [Key:ClassColor]
01:56.14KarlThePaganskinning knife, pick, etc... but you have to equip it?
01:56.57XuerianKarlThePagan: I was going for non-equip, like keyring.
01:57.06KarlThePaganah yea
01:57.18XuerianIf you got another slot for it
01:57.34XuerianSure.. Otherwise, more effective to pay 7g for a netherweave bag
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01:57.44Anduneok.  how do i configure simpleminimap?  no fubar control..  no minimap button..  no rock config..  no command-line.   ??
01:57.47KarlThePaganwell yea that's in the realm of wishes implemented in the form of fishes
01:57.59KarlThePaganAndune, right click on it
01:58.03AnduneI thought I recalled it being a right-click menu, but every button combo just pings the map
01:58.05XuerianKarlThePagan: As a druid engineer, I live in that happy place
01:58.08KarlThePaganreally?
01:58.11KarlThePaganhuh
01:58.21CIA-403gutty * r55074 10ManaMeter2/ (. ManaMeter2.toc):
01:58.21CIA-4ManaMeter2
01:58.21CIA-411/16/2007
01:58.21CIA-4- Updated TOC for 2.3
01:58.39XuerianAndune: Right click the minimap. If you have SMM running it'll open the menu
01:58.52XuerianOtherwise make sure you restarted wow :p
01:58.53KarlThePaganyea that's how it works for me... you're using the ace version right?
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01:59.24AnduneXuerian:  LOL.  ty for the thought-bump.  I guess I had it disabled from a previous attempt at running it a long time ago.  guess it helps if I turn it back on  ;)
01:59.46XuerianAndune: I had that moment a couple days back
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02:00.39CIA-403ananhaid * r55075 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua:
02:00.39CIA-4BigWigs:
02:00.39CIA-4- zhCN update
02:02.05aestilwhat is theory craft on fury warrior?  how much AP/hit/crit should they have?
02:02.58aestilis 1780 completely unbuffed pretty good?
02:04.09XuerianAre there any other druid/engineers in here? :p
02:04.16KarlThePaganaestil, that's just above my guild's minimum for SSC
02:04.40KarlThePaganfury req: 8000hp, 12% hit, 1700ap (in berserker), 28% crit (in berserker)
02:07.04Andunelol well simpleminimap seems to be working fine.  except it's hidden my track menu entirely, despite turning the hide feature on and off.   /sigh
02:07.52Finwhat are the healer requirements?
02:08.08aestilKarlThePagan: so, 1925 or so AP, 16% hit and 29% crit in zerker stance is a pretty good start?
02:08.33aestilthisi guy has fury [new ZA weapon] and the decapitator
02:08.41KarlThePagani'd say so for pve
02:08.49KarlThePaganpvp you want more ap, less hit of course
02:08.53KarlThePaganright?
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02:16.04Freedonfury pvp?
02:16.06Freedonlol wut
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02:19.54KarlThePaganAntiarc, I noticed the BagInfo elements seem to have changed their syntax at some point, from [0][1] index to bag_slots, filled_slots - my virtual bag stuff slammed me into it, so I'm going to adopt the bag_slots one (which had actual data in it)
02:20.41buuIs pitbull having major issues these days?
02:20.52KarlThePaganbuu what have you noticed?
02:20.55KarlThePaganmine seems ok
02:21.16buuKarlThePagan: I haven't been using it, just listening to some people complain. Something about aura's getting attached to the wrong thing or growing randomly.
02:22.04KarlThePaganhmm well mine is configured fiarly uniquely and I suppose I have seen one example of that
02:22.32KarlThePaganauras are picky about how they're aligned, and don't always collapse all the way when you have a very large max number of auras
02:22.56KarlThePaganit helps to configure pit bull when it's IN configuration mode so you can see where everything will end up
02:23.10KarlThePaganand then just to be safe reload UI after configuring it, and double-check the positions
02:23.35KarlThePagannot perfect, but not too bad imo
02:23.36buuI wish I could use pitbull =[
02:23.39buuOr any unit frame.
02:23.46KarlThePagany not?
02:24.00buuI'm just unable to play with one =/
02:24.05buuIt fucks me up constantl.
02:24.36buuI always look at the custom bars or huds and go "wow those look really cool" then I spend 30 minutes configuring them and I can't figure out how to read them =[
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02:24.54KarlThePaganheh... well that's part of the art of configuring things
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02:25.22CIA-403ananhaid * r55076 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua:
02:25.22CIA-4BigWigs:
02:25.22CIA-4-zhCN update
02:25.22buuI guess so.
02:25.36buuKarlThePagan: I think I need one that exactly emulates blizz's frames so I can slowly change it.
02:26.13Azurewrathmhm.. is there a way to disable that "Interface Action failed because of an AddOn" Message? I want to see the lua errors or whatever..
02:27.53CIA-403karlthepagan * r55077 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua:
02:27.53CIA-4SanityItemCache:
02:27.54CIA-4- fixed BagInfo.bag_slots nil (normalized BagInfo tables to work whether used by Sanity2 or not)
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02:36.07Aens|Superioritywhats a good mod to keep track of lifeblooms and HoTs? cooldown timers doesn't work properly
02:38.02ToadkillerAens|Superiority: ClassTimers?
02:38.17Toadkillerer ClassTimer
02:38.37Aens|Superiorityerr, i mean chronometer
02:38.57Aens|Superioritychronometer is removing the bar when someone's lifebloom expires, anybody's. Somebody on the raid is letting theirs expire all the time
02:39.21ToadkillerI let mine expire almost all the time...
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02:40.22ToadkillerOk so I dont get your question, you asked for a mod, I gave you an answer but you wanted it to be chronometer?
02:41.10kenlyricI'm pretty sure he's saying that *his* chronometer bar goes away when another druid lets lifebloom expire.
02:41.34ToadkillerOk thats fine, but ... ClassTimer ...
02:41.42kenlyricclasstimers would probably be good.
02:41.56CIA-403sorren * r55078 10SEasyRotation/SEasyRotation.toc: SEasyRotation: Set X-Embeds
02:42.32Aens|SuperiorityI was only just describing my problem. Not laying judgement on any suggestions.
02:43.09CIA-403chuanhsing * r55079 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.toc Locale-zhTW.lua):
02:43.09CIA-4GridStatusHealer:
02:43.09CIA-4- add zhTW translation (thanks ssm6)
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02:44.08ToadkillerOk so next question, why are you not letting your blooms expire?
02:44.23KarlThePaganit's efficient
02:44.32ToadkillerIn what way?
02:44.59KarlThePaganif the bloom would be mostly overhealing and you want to get the biggest lifebloom ticks cycling
02:45.13KarlThePaganyou reach a peak healing per mana when you have it fully stacked and refresh it at the last instant
02:45.39KarlThePaganonly if the bloom healing isn't wasted is it a good thing to let it go
02:45.55ToadkillerOk so you cast only lifeblooms on one target?
02:46.14Toadkilleror maybe 2?
02:46.28KarlThePaganI know someone who tries to keep 3 up
02:46.41KarlThePaganpossible using Grid/Clique
02:46.54KarlThePaganthat's what I'd recommend to you Aens|Superiority - Grid with the hot status extras
02:47.04KarlThePaganbut if you don't like grid... dunno
02:48.29ToadkillerI have heard of that, & you trinket up & then keep your trinketed up one goign forever.  What I do not get though is that rejuv + a lifebloom is more healing for less mana + you get that lefebloom to pop from time to time.  & if the mob enrages or whatever you can go to 3 blooms + the rejuv.
02:49.28ToadkillerGrid needs a grid setup plugin.
02:50.21Cryectgrid isn't too bad to configure
02:50.23KarlThePaganso I fixed Sanity2.1 to work with 12 attachments and shows you what bags you have equipped...
02:50.38ToadkillerCryect: That is true after the 10th time perhaps
02:50.49Cryectcompared to a lot of addons its really easy :-p
02:50.52KarlThePaganthe bags equipped thing isn't perfect yet tho :( shows (Wearing: 0) so far
02:51.21CryectReally in most Ace addons their largest weakness is in config
02:51.30Cryectnot in power but ease
02:51.36ToadkillerCryect: the point is not the ease of clicking around in the interface, its that you need to do that b4 u can get it working.  It comes with no useful defaults set up at all...
02:52.06ToadkillerWorse, it has inverted color scheme & I have yet to find anyone that likes it
02:52.08CryectWhats wrong with the defaults besides I don't think the default size, or the border/background is useful
02:52.15Cryectand yeah I always have to invert it :-p
02:52.24KarlThePaganoh WTF... Verigan's Fist is still a piece of shit (except for top-end dmg)
02:52.29ToadkillerWhy do I have to turn on the 2nd text field?
02:52.41CryectWhats the 2nd text field for?
02:52.58Toadkiller1st text is for name, 2nd ir for dead afk etc.
02:53.01CryectI don't recall there being one (haven't been playing for few months)
02:53.13Cryectoh I prefer that to just replace the 1st personally
02:53.27KarlThePaganI use 2nd field for HoT count, AFK, unstable affliction, and such
02:53.32ToadkillerWhy does the debuff icons not come preset t odisplay the ones my class can cure?
02:53.40KarlThePagan1st field for priority debuffs
02:53.43Toadkilleretc. etc. etc.
02:53.48CryectHuh it does?
02:53.53CryectIt only shows what you can cure by default
02:54.01ToadkillerIt takes 10-30 minutes to set it up for sopmeone over ts
02:54.10KarlThePaganyea :/
02:54.17KarlThePaganI tell people like that to use perfect raid
02:54.54Toadkiller& i am NOT talking about grid on its own, grid on its own is completely unuseable.  You need side indicators hot stacks, soem agro stuff, grid with pets etc etc.
02:55.21Cryectaggro stuff whats wrong with the default aggro marker?
02:55.31ToadkillerEh?
02:55.45CryectIt shows a red square in one of the corners by default for aggro
02:55.51ToadkillerOh I mean alerts
02:56.06Cryectwhy would you want that?
02:56.10ToadkillerStatusPVP
02:56.30CryectThen what do you mean by alerts
02:56.32ToadkillerGrid needs an official package imo
02:56.46ToadkillerTHeres an alert plugin for it now
02:56.53CryectWhat do you mean by alert?
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02:57.11ToadkillerHusky Female voice whispers: "Aggro"
02:57.53CryectWell thats a feature that shouldn't be in grid by default
02:58.06ToadkillerNo its in a plugin...
02:58.17Cryectright because it shouldn't be in the default
02:58.25Cryectits not at all necessary
02:58.28Toadkillerwho said it should be in grid itself?
02:58.40Cryectyou made it sound that way when you were saying its unusable without that feature
02:59.04ToadkillerI said grid is unuseable on its own without plugins & I stand by that statement
02:59.31CryectLooking at the plugins I'm really confused
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02:59.49CryectI used Grid fine when it first came out for months without any plugins and looking at the current ones only one I would get is the Hotstack one
03:00.11ToadkillerYEp, they arent even all labeled for the same section: Unit Frames
03:00.29CryectMost them are just indicators which definately wasn't needed
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03:00.39Cryectthere was plenty of indicators
03:00.40ToadkillerSide Indicators are
03:00.46CryectWhy?
03:00.47ToadkillerIt only had 4
03:00.52Cryect4 is plenty
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03:01.18ToadkillerLol 1 for aggro 1 for incoming heals.  where do my lifebloom, regrowth & rejuv indicators go?
03:02.04ToadkillerWhat about other peoples hots?  What about other druid's hots?
03:02.16CryectYou need it all individualized out for you?
03:02.23Cryectyou seem to be seeking information overload
03:02.36CryectTo me I rather have most HOTs consolidated as one
03:02.37ToadkillerNo, I seek sufficient info to make casting decisions.
03:02.54CryectThen I would seek something better than going how many different color dots are by a name :-p
03:02.57Toadkillertext 2 contains hot count, or dead or afk
03:03.39Cryectwhat you want can be distilled into a much smaller amount of information and better
03:03.43ToadkillerMy personal hots have an indicator as well so I know when I need to add another
03:03.53ToadkillerReally how?
03:04.40CryectFirst I would be more curious how about how strong the HOTs are on a person not does the person have 4 dots by their name (Grid doesn't support this by defualt or have a plugin I know for this) but this would be a much better to go about the data
03:04.53Cryectpresent this as 3 different colors indicating HOT strength
03:05.04Cryectnot the most complex thing to implement either (not simple though)
03:05.21CryectIf I wanted that much HOT info thats how I would go about
03:05.32Cryectsimilarly for warnings about warning when I should rebloom
03:05.39ToadkillerAs a druid I care about the ones I can use for insta heal every 15 seconds being present...
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03:06.00CryectGreat that only needs to be 1 indicator
03:06.04ToadkillerSince I can not tell WoW which one to blow up, the strength is irtrelevant
03:06.23CryectYou were talking about other people's HOTs
03:06.42ToadkillerYes, I still need to know if people are slackking and not hotting the tank or not
03:06.45Aens|Superiorityhum.  ClassTimers seems to only show the duration of hots of the current target
03:06.57Aens|Superioritythis is no good
03:07.10CryectYes and this information can be distilled a lot better presentation
03:07.23Cryect6 little squares is not the approach to take
03:07.29ToadkillerAens|Superiority: Ok get Pitbull, I think it keeps it for the various unit frames.  Or maybe quartz does, i dunno
03:07.47CryectBut if you can't code and no one's implemented it I guess you have to go with whats available
03:07.58ToadkillerCryect: I need 1 indicator each for each of my 3 hots...
03:08.11CryectHeh, I just be personally irritated if I thought I needed that info with the setup you are discussing though
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03:08.49CryectWhy not a single indicator that tells you what HOTs are missing?
03:09.15ToadkillerIn a multi druid situation I would need 2 more to see if they have regrowth or rejuv going on a target.
03:09.26Cryectno
03:09.27Cryectone
03:09.50Toadkillerlol ok so a single hot that has 8 different colors depending on what combination of hots are active?
03:09.56CryectNo
03:09.58Toadkiller*single indicator
03:09.59Cryectpriortie
03:10.09Cryectand as I said show whats missing that you would want
03:10.22CryectLets say you consider Rejuv the most important then regrowth and lifebloom
03:10.31ToadkillerCryect: clearly you do not play a druid so I will leave you to trying to shove that all into 4 indicators.
03:10.45CryectClearly you don't know my class
03:10.53Toadkillerits not relevant
03:11.19Cryectplayed a druid from first starting almost 3 years ago till I quit 3 months ago ;)
03:11.43ToadkillerOk so you have all 3 hots on one indicator?
03:12.17CryectAs I said show whats not there which is what is important not what is there
03:12.54CryectReally I don't think having individual indicators is the best approach
03:12.59Cryectthere is ways to consolidate the data
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03:13.41ToadkillerOK so if it shows lifebloom as missing then I can or cant cast swiftmend?
03:13.58Cryectcan't in my example
03:14.00CryectCna
03:14.03CryectCan*
03:14.14Cryectbecause Regrowth & Rejuv missing would be higher priority
03:14.41ToadkillerSo what point is this?  Were you even resto?  You sound like a boomkin with no clue about what it takes to heal in a raid...  no offense
03:15.43CryectANyways you like information overload which isn't necessary in grid when it was trying to simplify it
03:15.47CryectYeah I know what you are talking about
03:15.55ToadkillerOk so regrowth is missing & the ogre mage is going to do a massive fireball on the tanking mage in 5 seconds.  do I need to cast a lifebloom or not?
03:16.11KemayoCould someone test something in Tablet for me so I can find out whether it's a bug or a problem on my end?  (Detach a FuBar tooltip, lock it, then see whether you can move it while holding down alt.)
03:16.41Toadkillerso like the questfu tooltip?
03:16.53CryectIf you consider Lifebloom important as I said I would have an individual indicator telling you how much time is left on it color coordinated
03:16.53KemayoToadkiller: That would work.
03:17.07CryectOnly Rejuv & regrowth are the ones that should be consolidated really
03:21.02kenlyricwhen you drop items in the game, it should make a chest with them in it.
03:21.30ToadkillerNo it completely doesnt even get the click
03:21.46Toadkillerall you do is move your view around
03:21.47CryectHeh damn didn't see there was a second page that has a plugin for grid that does some of the things I suggested
03:22.42KemayoToadkiller: Okay, thanks for confirming!
03:23.30ToadkillerNow ctrl seems to get picked up though, dunno by whaat but its not moving the frame
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03:24.58ckknighthey all
03:25.00Wobinoh hey ck
03:25.02Wobinlong time no see
03:25.04Toadkillerhey
03:25.12Cryecthiya
03:25.18Toadkillerbtw nothing changed while u were gone
03:25.19ckknighthow's everyone doing?
03:25.24ckknightToadkiller, figured not
03:25.28CIA-403speeddymon * r55081 10/trunk/ (64 files in 64 dirs): .trunk: Bump TOC's of more addons
03:25.30ckknightToadkiller, :-P
03:26.37Speeddymonckknight!!!
03:26.37ToadkillerWell actually I did start a LibStickyFrames-1.0, which is at the point where you can have multiple mods register frames  &drag them around & have them snapping to each other.
03:26.45ckknighthey Speeddymon
03:26.54ckknightToadkiller, nice
03:27.05KemayoStrange.  Deciding to finally fix Tablet causes ck to appear... it's magic...
03:27.10Speeddymonany chance u could commit some toc updates to some of the locked addons?
03:27.19ckknightlocked addons?
03:27.23ckknightI don't lock any of my addons
03:27.37ckknight(personally find it preposterous for those who do)
03:27.39Speeddymonsct, sct_options, sctd, sctd_options, libstub, and ace2 are all locked from changes by non admins
03:27.45ckknightI can't touch sct
03:27.49Cryectwell most those aren't his
03:27.50ckknightor LibStub
03:27.53Speeddymondamn
03:27.57ckknightAce2 I can fix
03:28.01Speeddymonkk kewls
03:28.02ckknightdoes it work in 2.3?
03:28.04Wobinsct is greyhoof's isn't it?
03:28.06Speeddymonyup
03:28.07ckknightsure is
03:28.16ckknightI actually haven't played WoW in a while
03:28.19ckknightneed to test my addons
03:28.22Cryectyeah and not easy to get in touch with :-p
03:28.25ckknightfix em for the patch
03:28.31WobinAnd what's needed to fix in Libstub?
03:28.33Speeddymonhehe well i just upped the toc on the libfubarplugins
03:28.34Wobinoh toc
03:28.39Speeddymonnothing, just the toc
03:28.42Cryectspeeddymon has been fixing everyones toc
03:28.47ToadkillerI think your mods are already mostly patched for the patch ;-p
03:28.56CIA-4037destiny * r55082 10CooldownTimers2/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua:
03:28.56CIA-4CooldownTimers2:
03:28.56CIA-4- koKR typo fix
03:28.57ckknightpimp
03:29.09ckknightmuchos gracias to those who have fixed my addons, btw
03:29.24Speeddymonyou know me.. i like to have my toc's lookin right so i can leave the checkbox unchecked
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03:29.31ckknightI'd offer to let you sit at my right hand in the afterlife, but my own dogma prevents that
03:29.36Speeddymonlol
03:29.38Speeddymonnp
03:29.40ToadkillerSpeeddymon: Did you ever get around to the part where in the ace wikki they specifically ask you not to run around "fixing" tocs
03:29.50Speeddymonno i never saw that
03:29.58Speeddymonhavent been on ace in a while, im an auctioneer dev now
03:30.07ckknightToadkiller, if an addon is shown to work in the new patch, it's fine
03:30.11ckknightbut don't arbitrarily bump
03:30.26Speeddymon(which is why i didnt bump tweakhub_rwfilter)
03:30.36Speeddymonit spits out an error about a table that i dont wanna fix
03:30.52kenlyricpeople leave the checkbox unchecked?
03:30.52Cryecthehe
03:31.01Cryectapparently kenlyric
03:31.15CryectI always hated after a patch it came unchecked
03:31.25Cryectalways took like 2 logins due to that
03:31.51CIA-403karlthepagan * r55083 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua:
03:31.51CIA-4SanityItemCache:
03:31.51CIA-4- fixed equipped bags listing as (Wearing: 0)
03:32.03ToadkillerWhat always gets me is the involuntary options reset I get from first loging in with it unchecked after a patch
03:33.38ToadkillerWell for certain mods at any rate
03:34.58kenlyricyeah, recount always appears in the center of my screen.
03:35.19Cryectyeah sorry about that kenlyric
03:35.33Cryectheh I was thinking of that when he said that :-p
03:35.52Cryectone of the things I meant to go back and fix and hadn't
03:36.04kenlyricso, auctioneer is nice. The folder is capitalized, but the SV is not, so wau deletes it.
03:36.08Speeddymonyea vanaskos did that too..
03:36.38Speeddymondmgmeters since the patch resets to the top center of the screen when it is hidden due to not being in a party.. didnt do that before..
03:36.49Speeddymonand durability status goes to the center as well.. really annoying
03:40.21Cryectheh so whats new in Auctioneer now a days?
03:41.57KarlThePaganoh man... I need to remove blinding powder from ReagentFu
03:42.14NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: wait, wau checks your sv's and/or deletes addons/svs?
03:42.16NightHawkTheSanewtf?
03:42.45kenlyricit has an option to.
03:42.55kenlyricbut it's case sensitive.
03:43.00CIA-403seerah * r55084 10SharedMedia-2.0/INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt: SharedMedia-2.0: fixed file paths of the examples in INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt (changed SharedMedia to SharedMedia-2.0)
03:43.24ckknightso how have things been for everyone?
03:43.26NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: pfft. case sensitivity ftl, sounds like some poor programming. :P
03:43.27ckknightmiss me at all?
03:43.29kenlyric"cleanup saved variables"
03:43.45Cryecthaven't noticed you were gone! probably helps I was gone as well :-p
03:43.48kenlyricckknight: everyone went back to gatherer.
03:44.07NightHawkTheSanegatherer? I hardly know her!
03:44.13Cryectbeen doing anything fun?
03:44.24NightHawkTheSanewowlog autobar
03:44.30NightHawkTheSaneer, woops, that was totally the wrong window.
03:44.34ckknightCryect, I've lost most of my feelings and emotions
03:44.38ckknightI am as an empty husk
03:44.41kenlyrichis password is "autobar"
03:44.47NightHawkTheSaneckknight: this is new, how?
03:44.56CryectI hate when that happens
03:45.00ckknightprefer not to discuss it
03:45.09NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: hah, actually "wowlog" is the *nix cli utility i wrote to view changelogs.
03:46.37ToadkillerActually no ned to switch to gatherer, some people patched cart while u were gone
03:46.40CryectWell as long as you aren't in depression, personally I have to say I've had a lot of fun not playing WoW and catching up on games
03:46.54ToadkillerDeth b4 gatherer was the general consensus i think
03:46.59ckknightI probably am depressed
03:47.05CryectDepression sucks
03:47.19CryectI went through that for like ~8 months
03:47.20ckknightquite true
03:47.31NightHawkTheSaneckknight: i suggest alcohol. that's my solution. :D
03:47.47ckknightfor one, I'm 20
03:47.52ckknightfor two, I only drink with my brother
03:47.53NightHawkTheSane(it may or may not also be a cause. haven't gotten around to working that part out yet)
03:47.58ckknightfor three, he's sick
03:48.02ToadkillerI like chocoalte myself.  But I recommend onl ydoing good chocolate
03:48.04CryectPfft I drank more when I was underage than since I turned 21
03:48.07KarlThePaganin all seriousness physical activity is one of the best & most consistent cures for depression
03:48.14ckknightI don't eat sweets, Toadkiller
03:48.21CryectDoing stuff yeah is the key
03:48.21ckknightKarlThePagan, ...yea
03:48.22Toadkillerchocolate is not candy
03:48.30kenlyricmy healing set loses 79 damage and gains 77 mp5 while casting.
03:48.31CryectBeing a bum doesn't make things better
03:48.33ckknightToadkiller, it's a sweet, though
03:48.36Toadkillerunless umean like in diabetic or something
03:48.53NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: sounds like a worthwhile trade, i guess?
03:49.03ckknightI'm hypersensitive to sweets, if I try to eat it, it hurts my mouth immensely
03:49.14Toadkillerweird
03:49.26Cryectsounds like dental carries
03:49.28Cryectno its not
03:49.39ckknightI need to  brush more :-P
03:49.42ToadkillerMind u I cant stand bitter myself.
03:49.46ckknightthe enamel on my teeth has worn down
03:49.58CryectSugar creates a hypermolarity liquid that goes straight to the nerve through worn down teeth :(
03:50.07kenlyricsensodyne really works.
03:50.18kenlyric1/1 kenlyrics agree
03:50.19ckknightbut frankly I think that the whole dental industry is a sham
03:50.33ckknightdentists say I should brush more and stress that to be the most important thing
03:50.34ToadkillerIt is nowadays when kids dont get cavities
03:50.42kenlyrichmmm, if I make a set out of all my purples, it comes out pretty well.
03:50.42ckknightbut wouldn't an eye doctor think that eyes are the most important?
03:50.46Toadkillerwell u need to brush AND floss
03:50.47Cryectget fillings it fixed the problem for me when I had teh same issue
03:50.53ckknightor a heart doctor think that taking care of your heart is the most important?
03:50.57kenlyricpurples including the arcane trinket from violet eye :)
03:51.04CryectAll doctors are biased
03:51.06ckknightor a mechanic who thinks that I should change my oil more often?
03:51.12ckknighttoo much shit to worry about
03:51.26ckknightoh, and don't forget to eat leafy greens
03:51.39CryectLeafy greens are yummy if prepared right
03:51.47ckknightif we follow everything that other people say, we merely become machines
03:51.48ToadkillerYeah but u do still need to brush & floss & exercise & eat leafy greens ;-p
03:51.55kenlyricI don't know. If your car dies you're on the side of the road. If your heart dies you're dead. If you poke your eyes out you're blind. But if your teeth rot, you're just in gigantic pain.
03:52.11Arcaiai do everything my way
03:52.15ckknightToadkiller, there's only so many seconds in the day
03:52.24ArcaiaIf i want pie - I steal pie.
03:52.28kenlyricbrush while changing your oil.
03:52.44Toadkillerkenlyric: you need to travel to the DEEP south & have some people smile at you.  It will make you flle back home & start to brush every 10 minutes
03:52.53Toadkiller*flee
03:52.59Cryectand then you lose your teeth because you brush them too much
03:53.00CIA-403karlthepagan * r55085 10SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua:
03:53.00CIA-4SanityItemCache:
03:53.01CIA-4- fixed bank "equipped" bags listing as (Bank: 0)
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03:53.25ToadkillerCHallenge your gums i say!
03:53.26KarlThePaganCryect, or buy an $80 toothbrush that teaches you how to brush
03:53.29kenlyricif you lose your teeth because your brush them too much, you may wish to lay off toothbrushes by brillo
03:53.42ToadkillerYeah always use a soft brush
03:53.43Cryecttoothbrushes can teach you how to brush?
03:53.48kenlyricand nobody got my joke.
03:53.53KarlThePaganthere's one that beeps when you brush too hard
03:53.57kenlyrici'm a little sad.
03:53.58Cryectoh
03:54.04CIA-403kemayo * r55086 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: TabletLib: Fix using alt to interact with locked tablets. (MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED args changed way back in 2.2 to LALT/RALT.)
03:54.07Arrowmasterckknight: do you have a script that will generate a data file for cartographer_instancemaps thats updated for the last time that data got modified?
03:54.10NightHawkTheSanei did kenlyric. i just didn't laugh because i hate you. :)
03:54.11KarlThePaganand has a timer that makes you spend 2 minutes brushing
03:54.12Cryectnot up to date on the latest brushing technology
03:54.23KarlThePagani watch too much tv is all
03:54.27Cryecthaha
03:54.44AntiarcMan
03:54.44Cryectas seen on tv by KarlThePagan
03:54.47Antiarc+20 hit food is love
03:55.12KarlThePaganso check this shit out...
03:55.17Kemayockknight: I think I opened a Jira ticket for the tablet bug I just committed way back, if you want to close it.
03:55.46KarlThePagani get a gizmawhushit megachopper drop... decide to level a new paladin because human suck... but with 2.3 humans are bad-ass ret paladins
03:56.03KarlThePaganmegachopper is soulbound to a lv 24 draenei pally i'm about to delete... /cry
03:56.13CIA-403speeddymon * r55087 10OneStorage/OneStorage.toc: OneStorage - Bump missed TOC
03:57.58ulicdid anyone ever get to the root of the GuildControl issues?  I think I had it narrowed down to RollCall but I'm not 100% sure.
03:59.51kenlyrichttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=Kenlyric   one day, I too hope to have all purples.
03:59.52Arrowmasterckknight: oh i found that bug in Cartographer_LookNFeel that was causing the defaults not to be recognized
04:00.05Kemayockknight: I tracked down the ticket myself.  Having seen the reports in Jura, I fully understand your hiatus, and need to take one myself.
04:03.59kenlyric" GridAlert\locales\frFR.lua:16: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near '['
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04:13.50CIA-4MageAnnounce:
04:13.50CIA-4- TOC bump
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04:19.28sag_ich_nicht[04:54] <+Antiarc> +20 hit food is love <--WHAT
04:19.30sag_ich_nichtAntiarc details?
04:19.35AntiarcSpicy Talbuk
04:19.46AntiarcRecipe comes from cooking dailies
04:19.50Birdemaniits from cooking daily, random drop in crate
04:19.51sag_ich_nichtNEED
04:19.54AntiarcI got it from my first one <_<
04:20.22BirdemaniI picked up the pet one and the hit one so far
04:20.28Birdemanijust leaves the cake I think
04:20.31sag_ich_nichtactually that's a reason for me to skill up cooking to 375 now
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04:20.54BirdemaniCan I get some help understanding this taint log? Is it Prat or Itemrack that is causing my issues
04:20.55Birdemanihttp://wowace.pastey.net/77455
04:21.04kebinusanBirdemani: there are two fishing foods too
04:22.12sag_ich_nichtwoah
04:22.19sag_ich_nichti always knew prat was a dick
04:22.24sag_ich_nichtbut that's a huge log :X
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04:22.36Arrowmasterfirst ditch PlayerMenu
04:22.42Arrowmasterthen see if you get the taint again
04:22.49Birdemanik
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04:23.47ulicdon't forget to delete your taint log after you exit or it will just grow forever and confuse you :P
04:24.21Birdemanii already did that, used to it from WWS every night
04:24.21ulicah yea :)
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04:24.44Birdemaniwould be really nice if bugsack put its error log in there as well :)
04:24.55Arrowmasterdoubt it can
04:25.11Arrowmasterwhat version of itemrack are you using?
04:25.21Birdemani2.0 i think
04:25.23Birdemanilet me check
04:25.40Birdemani2.1
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04:26.34ckknightKemayo, the hiatus wasn't ...voluntary
04:27.17sag_ich_nichtgod damn it Antiarc, i need that food. :/
04:27.33sag_ich_nichtthen i can change my enchants back and eat that before a boss encounter!
04:27.35NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: I noticed on my shammy the icon being used for astral recall is the one for Earth Elemental Totem.. bug, or some other issue?
04:27.50ArrowmasterBirdemani: it looks like its from when your trying to swap gear with a macro to itemrack right? if so go ingame with taint log on, get in combat press macro then logout and check it
04:28.32Arrowmasteri know older versions of itemrack didnt even bother to check the incombatlockdown and would just get a shitstorm of errors that normally arent even shown
04:28.46Arrowmasterdont know what the 2.x ones do
04:28.47BirdemaniI keybind my itemrack sets and change over to 1h/sheild in pvp a lot using it
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04:30.03Birdemaniwhats the console command agian? /console taintlog 0?
04:30.31sag_ich_nicht/console taintLog 1
04:30.33sag_ich_nichtto turn it on
04:30.37sag_ich_nicht/console taintLog 0
04:30.40sag_ich_nichtto turn it off
04:30.47Birdemanithanks
04:30.59bigzeroHey guys. does lua have non-capturing parentheses for string matching? Or any other way to group characters?
04:33.37dylanmI think you'd just have to eat a capture. That is to say, do nothing with it.
04:33.49NightHawkTheSane^^
04:33.56NightHawkTheSanethats more or less true of regexes in genereal
04:34.19Kemayockknight: Isn't it a happier way to look at it, though? :D
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04:34.36dylanmWell there's (?:blaglablah) in perl regex and you don't take up a position but eh
04:34.41dylanmShouldn't be that big of a deal
04:35.13NightHawkTheSanehm, really? didn't know pcre could do that
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04:38.06dylanmMaybe that's not the exact syntax... there's all kinds of stuff for look-ahead and look-behind and blah blah
04:39.23hyperChipmunkwow, with the new blizzard item sets, i'm SORELY tempted to remove pt support entirely
04:39.31hyperChipmunki just reorganized my autosend lists
04:39.44hyperChipmunkand need no pt set rules at all
04:39.51NightHawkTheSanereally...
04:40.04dylanmIt's much, much better than it was.
04:40.12NightHawkTheSanei should relook at my bm2 stuff
04:40.46hyperChipmunkthe biggest thing was finer control of trade goods, and they have like 15 categories of them now
04:40.47Arrowmasternew itemsets?
04:41.12hyperChipmunkyeah, the bulkmail one just parses the AH categories and uses those
04:41.33Arrowmasteroh
04:41.36hyperChipmunklast patch they added more ah categories, so bulkmail got $$ bonus from that
04:41.57hyperChipmunkso much so that i see no need at all for PT3 support
04:42.18hyperChipmunknot in my set, at least
04:42.24hyperChipmunk(and it's pretty extensive)
04:42.39KemayoOo, new categories.  I must look at this.
04:42.56KemayoNew trade good categories?  I AM IN HEAVEN!
04:42.58hyperChipmunkso unless someone comes up to me with a good reason why I should leave it in, I'm really considering taking it out
04:43.18KemayoI can probably remove a bunch of crap from BankStack with this!
04:45.18hyperChipmunktake a look at the sections at lines 373 and 852 in BulkMail.lua if you want the code for it
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04:45.54hyperChipmunki'm quite proud of it; it handled the new changes without me having to change a single character
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04:46.07NightHawkTheSanenice. :)
04:46.08KemayoAll I need to do is remove some special-casing of the Trade Goods category, I think.
04:46.14hyperChipmunkjust *bam* instant improved bulkmail
04:47.00PaikHey guys, I`ve been noticing a problem with my memory usage of addons during raids for a couple of weeks now and I'm out of ideas how to fix it, so I'm hoping for some help of you addon gurus. :) - Well, whenever I'm in raids with a lot of combat/action going on, my memory usage seems to be increasing rapidly for no reason. I'm using PerformanceFu and it's showing a Current Memory usage which is way higher than what it should be accor
04:47.22KemayoPaik: You were cut off at "should be accor".
04:47.26PaikAww.
04:47.40Paikaccording to the memory usage of each of my addons. It keeps increasing even though none of my addons seem to be using more. Anybody have a clue? Sorry for this huge block of text.
04:47.42PaikThere.
04:48.02PaikI'm thinking of a memory leak or something but I'm rather clueless.
04:48.17Arrowmasterits because of the GC
04:48.18CIA-403kergoth * r55090 10Skillet/LibPossessions.lua: Skillet: LibPossessions: Bagnon_Forever support.
04:48.44PaikWhat?
04:48.57Arrowmasterincreasing memory usage rate may be positive but due to incremental GC the total memory used may stay the same
04:49.18PaikWhat do you mean by GC?
04:49.27Arrowmastergarbagecollection
04:49.37PaikI'm manually doing that.
04:49.47Arrowmasterit happens all the time
04:50.33PaikWell, I notice my game performance decreasing the higher the Current Memory number gets, until it gets almost unplayable.
04:50.57ZhinjioBuh
04:50.58PaikReloading my UI fixes it.
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04:51.11PaikBut the higher the number is, the longer the reload takes.
04:51.22PaikSo I'm pretty sure my memory did actually increase.
04:51.24nymbiaPaik: what addons are eating the memory
04:51.53PaikThat's the thing, the addon memory usage didn't increase when looking at the numbers in PerformanceFu.
04:52.01PaikSo I can't pinpoint the culprit.
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04:54.07Andunewhat mod do you guys use for tradeskills?
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04:55.01AnduneI've been a big user of Manufac, but it seems to be crashing me these days.
04:55.08PaikIs there a way to monitor memory usage besides PerformanceFu? Possibly 'invisible' memory increases?
04:55.22ckknightinvisible?
04:55.29KemayoAndune: I just use SimpleTradeskill.  It's a bit... minimal, though.
04:55.33PaikWell, I'm suspecting a memory leak somewhere.
04:55.53PaikIf you read my other messages, ckknight. :)
04:55.59NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: what's it do?
04:56.10Andunekemayo:  ever used manufac?  can you compare the two?
04:56.28ArrowmasterPaik: performancefu tells you overall memory usage and also tells you the total of all addon memory usege
04:56.33Arrowmastercompare those
04:56.50ckknightworrying about memory makes me even more depressed
04:57.10AnduneI really like Manufac's interface.  Combined w/ Stitch, tradeskilling's never been better.  But the whole crash-me-everytime-I-try-to-tradeskill is gettin a little old..  :P
04:57.29nymbiaPaik: so what, what memory measure is increasing, that which is used by the game as a whole?
04:57.42NightHawkTheSaneI think what i'd really like is something like doublewide for craft windows
04:57.47nymbias/o what/o wait/
04:58.05Paik"Current Memory"
04:58.12nymbiainteresting
04:58.30PaikWhile the memors values of my addons stay about the same.
04:58.38nymbiawhat about the sum total of the addons?
04:58.44PaikNot even close.
04:58.45KemayoNightHawkTheSane: It just adds how many of an item could make if you went to your bank and to a vendor (separately) to the tradeskill lines.
04:58.48nymbiainteresting
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04:58.58PaikI start at about 30mb when I start the game or reload my UI.
04:59.07PaikAfter a raid it's sometimes up to 100mb.
04:59.16Arrowmasterckknight: carto_instancemaps data needs remined for 2.3, ive done it but dont think the pack.lua i used was very uptodate since some of the maps turned out looking different (and hyjal didnt have correct name and BT wasnt even in the pack.lua)
04:59.17PaikAnd my addon values haven't really changed.
04:59.37ckknightArrowmaster, hrm...
04:59.50ckknightArrowmaster, maybe I didn't commit the last version (which is on my mac, which is in the shop)
05:00.00Arrowmasteryou didnt
05:00.12Arrowmasteri looked at changelogs and nobodys touched pack.lua in a while
05:00.16ckknighthrm
05:01.07Arrowmasteralthough im not sure but some of the oddities might be from blizzard
05:01.33Arrowmastera few of the maps changed size and caused the notes to be off
05:01.43ckknightquite possible
05:01.59ckknightdo you have the latest files from the mpqs?
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05:02.04Arrowmasteryeah
05:02.19XuerianWow, ck is back.
05:02.28XuerianShock and awe.
05:02.30theoddone33I soloed the dirty larry quest in shatt yay
05:02.34Arrowmasteri extracted common.mpq then expansion.mpq then patch.mpq overtop of each other
05:02.45Arrowmasterso it should be the most recent
05:04.30Arrowmasterckknight: oh fyi i spent like 12 hours debugging looknfeel + rockdb, the problem was that hotspot was loading before looknfeel, requesting looknfeel's namespace and then for some reason when looknfeel loaded it wouldnt set its defaults
05:05.05Arrowmasterfixed with an optdep
05:05.27RaydenUnichttp://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8093/lolwtfye7.jpg
05:05.29RaydenUnicheh
05:08.13ProvusI have a really good idea. As a mage I'm very acquainted to focus counterspells. What I'd like is to be able to have a big counterspell button between target and focus that very clearly shows the cooldown. The counterspell button turns red when the target is out of range, blue when the focus is out of range, and purple when they're both out of range.
05:08.50ProvusI'm hoping maybe cncfanatics might be interested in implementing a blue filter for focus targets on his action buttons.
05:08.53Azurewrathl2useomnicc and bind a quick button to CS.. like Q or E ;)
05:09.02ProvusQ and E are strafe buttons. :/
05:09.10Arrowmasterlol
05:09.14Azurewrathright mouse buttons = strafe
05:09.25ShirikProvus: Negative!~
05:09.27ProvusYes but sometimes I need to strafe and mouseover cast a counterspell.
05:09.30ShirikA and D are strafe
05:09.35ProvusI can't do that with right mouse button held down.
05:09.36ShirikQ and E are turn
05:09.45ProvusA button on my mouse does a mouse-over counterspell.
05:09.50ProvusIt has saved me on many occasions.
05:09.57Azurewratherr... you click your counterspell? You fail.
05:10.00Provus..what?
05:10.12ProvusButton on my mouse is hardly clicking.
05:10.22ProvusHow the hell would you even click a mouseover ability
05:10.26ProvusThat would be retarded.
05:10.32Azurewrathwhy do you can't use it when holding down the right button then? ;)
05:10.42ProvusBecause the cursor disappears.
05:10.55Shirikit adds a new challenge to the game
05:10.59ProvusYou know what [target=mouseover] does right?
05:11.01Shiriksee how much concentration you have
05:11.07Shirikif you remember where your mouse was
05:11.17Shirikand can turn the screen to that spot
05:11.24Provus.. right , anyway, the issue isn't binding counterspell.
05:11.29Shirik=P
05:11.30ProvusThe issue is knowing when my focus is in range of it.
05:11.35Arrowmasterhmm worldframe mousedown hook to change pointer icon into crosshair
05:11.41ProvusThere's really no way to do it right now without using two buttons.
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05:12.11ProvusArrowmaster, that's a nice idea but it's not really related to what I was talking about.
05:12.51ProvusI don't see any action bar addon supporting color filters for focus targets.
05:14.21ProvusA blue filter for focus targets in contrast to red filters for the primary target would be neat, especially if you made them overlap to create a purple filter.
05:15.21RaydenUnicso classes that share similar roles dont like each other
05:15.26RaydenUnicwarriors and druids fight for tanking
05:15.32RaydenUnicpriests and paladins fight over healing
05:15.36RaydenUnicrogues and hunters
05:15.38RaydenUnicall dps
05:15.45RaydenUnicbut some of those work well together
05:15.49RaydenUnicshadow priests and warlocks
05:15.57Arrowmasterlies
05:16.08RaydenUnicwe both compete for shadow damage items, but spriests make warlocks do more dmg
05:16.15RaydenUnici guess warlocks don't give us anything
05:16.16Arrowmasterwarlocks in our raids are always doing soul shatter chains to kill the shadow priests
05:16.34Arrowmasterumm Curse of Shadows?
05:17.18kebinusanheh how easy they forget
05:17.25RaydenUniclol
05:17.27RaydenUnicguild bank checkers
05:17.34Arrowmasterhaha
05:18.01RaydenUnichttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968178633&postId=29491837216&sid=1#0
05:18.58PaikHey nymbia, you still there?
05:19.07nymbiaPaik: sup
05:19.20PaikI sent you 3 messages, didn't get them?
05:19.51nymbiadon't see anything, are you registered+identified?
05:20.00PaikDon't think so.
05:20.50PaikNever used IRC before so I don't really have a clue.
05:20.55nymbiafreenode blocks private messages for unregistered users
05:23.40CIA-403scorpio0920 * r55091 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: Update zhTW translation.
05:25.21CivrockWhere do I register? If possible.
05:25.54nymbia./msg nickserv help
05:26.18CivrockThanks.
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05:27.54RaydenUnicso is the Zul'Jin in ZA the same Zui'Jin from previous games?
05:27.58RaydenUnicor a different one?
05:28.09Funkeh`?
05:28.20NightHawkTheSaneprobably the same
05:28.43RaydenUniccause Zul'Jin is supposedly a title right?
05:28.50RaydenUniccause ZJ is a great troll hero
05:29.08NightHawkTheSanei dont recall the lore precisely
05:29.23RaydenUniclame
05:29.37a-stray-catZul is a title i think
05:29.44RaydenUniche got pissed off after the BE joined the horde
05:29.46a-stray-catdunno about jin
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05:31.12RaydenUnicAccording to the World of Warcraft RPG the prefix "Zul'" describes a voodoo master and the suffix "jin" refers to a tribal chief or elder.
05:31.27RaydenUnicZul'jin for example is a name/title that roughly translates out to and used for a "great tribal witch doctor". The book does not discuss a specific "Zul'jin" but rather discusses the name as a title that can be used for any "great tribal witch doctor"
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05:32.18CIA-403next96 * r55092 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:
05:32.18CIA-4ItemPriceTooltip :
05:32.18CIA-4- Update locale koKR
05:32.33aestilwhat makes it so that i can't look at instance maps while not in an instance, using cartographer.
05:32.46NightHawkTheSanebygs
05:32.49NightHawkTheSaneer, bugs.
05:33.00aestilthere is no error.
05:33.07NightHawkTheSanedoesn't mean there's no bugs
05:33.13aestili mean, am i unique with this problem, or is it just the state of cartograher.
05:33.23NightHawkTheSaneno, you're not the only one
05:33.27NightHawkTheSanecart's instance maps are borked
05:33.48nymbiai didnt do it!
05:34.06NightHawkTheSaneLIES
05:34.11CIA-403arrowmaster * r55093 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: temp fix for 2.3, need an updated pack.lua for a complete fix, these maps are working but not as intended
05:34.36aestillol
05:35.08Arrowmasterthe naxx map is totally fucked up
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05:35.19aestilArrowmaster: that map is huge.
05:35.48CIA-403funkydude * r55094 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: berserk is 10 minutes not 9, wtf? Why did I set it as 9 O_o
05:35.50Arrowmasterlook at it when you update, its broken
05:35.56Arrowmastershit everywhere
05:36.34jaynineis there a command i can use to access cartographer configuration?
05:36.53MentalPowerckknight: ping!
05:37.19CIA-403hyperactiveChipmunk * r55095 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua:
05:37.19CIA-4BulkMail2:
05:37.20CIA-4- little bit of code streamlining; nothing major
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05:40.13MentalPower~seen ckknight
05:40.15purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (47m 55s) #wowace (47m 55s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 38m 16s, last said: 'do you have the latest files from the mpqs?'.
05:40.32MentalPowerckknight: I really need to talk to you
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05:45.02CIA-403sutorix * r55097 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/ClosetGnome_Fishing.toc: ClosetGnome_Fishing: Update TOC
05:46.15CIA-403hyperactiveChipmunk * r55098 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua:
05:46.15CIA-4BulkMail2:
05:46.15CIA-4- moderate improvement in performance of the "Items in Bags" autosend rules dewdrop
05:47.11kenlyricso, keep pinging him. Maybe he'll come a-runnin'
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05:51.08sag_ich_nichtGOD DAMN IT RABBIT
05:53.04NightHawkTheSanehmm.
05:53.29NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: (or anyone else) do you know if the metal & stone item category includes both ore and bars? and... what category do primals/motes go into?
05:54.06hyperChipmunkElemental
05:54.11hyperChipmunkand yes
05:54.48CIA-403hyperactiveChipmunk * r55100 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua:
05:54.48CIA-4BulkMail2:
05:54.49CIA-4- oops, make it local again
05:55.01NightHawkTheSanethanks
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05:56.13Morph|ingame~seen ckknight
05:56.14purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 3m 54s) #wowace (1h 3m 54s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 54m 15s, last said: 'do you have the latest files from the mpqs?'.
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06:04.29ckknightMorph|ingame, howdy
06:04.36ckknightMentalPower, hey
06:04.45Morph|ingamehoya man
06:04.51MentalPowerhey ckknight, hows life?
06:05.00ckknightkinda blah right now
06:05.24MentalPowerI'm sorry to hear that
06:05.34MentalPoweranyways, do you care to explain: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=40473
06:05.43MentalPowerhaven't we been over this a million times
06:06.02MentalPowerI mean, we've been arguing this almost a year now
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06:07.13ckknight_bah
06:07.25ckknight_sorry, MentalPower, what's up?
06:08.00MentalPower[02:04:48]<ckknight>kinda blah right now
06:08.01MentalPower[02:05:11]<MentalPower>I'm sorry to hear that
06:08.03MentalPower[02:05:21]<MentalPower>anyways, do you care to explain: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=40473
06:08.05MentalPower[02:05:31]<MentalPower>haven't we been over this a million times
06:08.06MentalPower[02:05:49]<MentalPower>I mean, we've been arguing this almost a year now
06:08.39ckknightthat is old, guy
06:08.45ckknightbeen taken care of for a while now
06:08.58ckknightit doesn't kill Swatter currently
06:09.01sag_ich_nichtckknight: take a look at rabbits revision
06:09.02sag_ich_nichtit does
06:09.05ckknightto my knowledge.
06:09.13ckknightthe most recent version?
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06:09.47sag_ich_nichthttp://fish.wowace.com/search/WowAce/trunk/BugSack?comment=swatter&groupby=changeset&searchAllDirs=true
06:10.07Guillotinelol@topic
06:10.07Morph|ingamelooks like rabbit snuck one in on ya after yours
06:10.36sag_ich_nichtGuillotine: that's Ellipsis' fault
06:10.40sag_ich_nicht(well, and mine :()
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06:11.39ckknightsag_ich_nicht, I played a role as well
06:11.46sag_ich_nichttrue enough
06:12.16Arcaiaanyone know if gladiator still works?
06:12.54Arcaiagladiator - the addon
06:12.57ckknightMentalPower, *sigh* I had it ask before whether to use BugGrabber or Swatter, but that no longer seems to be in the code
06:13.19sag_ich_nichtckknight: yeah, rabbit reverted it
06:13.23sag_ich_nichtckknight: go punch him
06:13.33ckknightI'm not going to deal with bullshit drama
06:13.52ckknightI've had enough from this place
06:14.01MentalPowerI don't want drama anymore than you do
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06:14.18MentalPowerI only ask that the compromises we've reached in the past be kept
06:14.22MentalPowerby both parties
06:14.42ckknighthttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/%21BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua?r1=40374&r2=40473
06:14.47ckknighthey, I kept it
06:14.55ckknightyou are free to bitch at vhaarr
06:15.19sag_ich_nicht...
06:16.03ckknightwait, this is it: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/%21BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua?r1=40371&r2=40473
06:16.28ckknightI'm not getting in the middle of this again
06:17.18MentalPowerckk, you're one of the leads of wowace, same as I'm one of the leads of norganna, we're already "in the middle of this"
06:17.51sag_ich_nichtMentalPower: guess you missed a lot of drama
06:18.01sag_ich_nichtMentalPower: +it's rabbitss addon not ckknight's addon
06:18.12sag_ich_nichts/rabbitss/rabbit's/
06:18.19Morph|ingameohhhh really
06:18.27Morph|ingamewhere is elmer when you need him?
06:18.32MentalPoweryes, but ckknight is the one that has the @ in front of his nick
06:18.45ckknightthat's arbitrary, really
06:18.46sag_ich_nichtMentalPower: rabbit=vhaarr
06:18.53hyperChipmunkthey both do
06:18.57hyperChipmunknot that it means anything
06:18.58hyperChipmunkheck
06:18.59MentalPowerah, that part I didn't know
06:19.07hyperChipmunkeven *I* do
06:19.19hyperChipmunkthey just hand 'em out to any passing rodent these days
06:19.19MentalPower~seen vhaarr
06:19.21purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace (1d 15h 46m 12s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 14h 43m 19s, last said: ':P'.
06:20.15MentalPowervhaarr: ping!
06:20.24sag_ich_nichtMentalPower just send him a botmail
06:20.25sag_ich_nicht:X
06:20.27kenlyricpoor ck. Bitched at for the things he does. Bitched at for the things he doesn't does.
06:20.55ckknightmakes me want to put a bullet into so many heads.
06:21.04ckknightnot my own, though
06:21.07ckknightsuicide is wrong
06:21.18MentalPowersag_ich_nicht: botmail?
06:21.33MentalPoweryou mean purl's memoes?
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06:22.05sag_ich_nichtMentalPower: yes.
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06:25.16Funkeh`lol ouch
06:25.27Funkeh`buffalo causing massive taints
06:26.26Arcaiaanyone know if gladiator (the addon) still works?
06:26.30CIA-403kemayo * r55101 10BankStack/sort.lua: BankStack: Sort now sorts according to the order of the auction house categories. (And trade goods takes advantage of the many new subcategories, yay!)
06:27.23CivrockAre there any Ace addons that are similar to Outfitter? It seems to be causing a ton of taints as well. >_>
06:27.43CivrockAnd Arcaia, Gladiator is working fine for me.
06:28.16a-stray-cati hate writing options arrrrgh
06:28.34AntiarcClosetGnome is a replacement for Outfitter
06:30.24CivrockI think I tried it a while ago and it wasn't really anywhere close to Outfitter, as far as I remember.
06:30.48CivrockNot sure if there were any big changed since then.
06:31.56jaynineim hoping someone could help me out here.. ive downloaded cartographer, and put it in the addons directory, ive moved the battlegrounds, herb etc to the addons folder as well, but when i press M once in game, i get no indication that it has been enabled.  
06:32.10KemayoCivrock: You might need ClosetGnome + SwapMagic.
06:34.05CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r55102 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (54 files in 20 dirs):
06:34.05CIA-4UnitActionBars:
06:34.05CIA-4- Changed to UnitActionBars2 name prior to promoting to main trunk as 2nd version of UnitActionBars, allowing 1st version to remain for those that do not want to move to 2nd version.
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06:35.05Diaohey uh vhaarr, if you don't mind, can you add badge of justice to be ignored by NRT by default :) I've got it ignored in my local copy already but it would be nice for the next time I update
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06:35.56CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r55103 10UnitActionBars/ (UnitActionBars/ UnitActionBars2/):
06:35.56CIA-4UnitActionBars:
06:35.56CIA-4- Renamed so that this version does not conflict with existing UAB mod. Doing this to allow UAB 1.0 users to keep using 1.0 (no forced update).
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06:43.10Arrowmasterjaynine: you shouldnt move only a few of the folders like that
06:46.44jayninewell i didnt realize i needed cartographer1 as well, once i dropped that in the addons directory it worked
06:46.56Arrowmasteryou dont
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06:48.06Arrowmasteryou shouldnt have cartographer1 unless youve decided to use cartographer1 instead of cartographer (which is version 2)
06:48.46jayninehmm
06:49.20Arrowmasterare you downloading zip files or using WAU?
06:49.41jayninedownloading them
06:49.51Arrowmasterwindows?
06:49.54jaynineyes
06:50.23Arrowmastershould probably start clean and just delete all the cartographer folders from your addons folder
06:50.29CIA-403kemayo * r55104 10BankStack/sort.lua: BankStack: Remove debug print!
06:50.54jaynineyeah, i did that though
06:50.57jayninea few times
06:50.57Arrowmasterthen extract cartographer
06:51.14Arrowmasterand either leave everything in the cartographer folder that came in it
06:51.23jaynineok
06:51.41Arrowmasteror run the cartographerlod.bat in the cartographer folder once
06:51.57Arrowmasterand it will move everything for you
06:52.36jayninedone and done.. here goes wow.exe
06:52.56Arrowmasterif you do that though youll need to run that bat again everytime you download a new version of cartographer and extract it into your addons folder
06:54.30jayninesame thing
06:54.36Arrowmasternothing?
06:55.02jaynineyeah, doesnt appear to load it.. it's checked in my addons list in the char selection screen as well
06:55.12jayninebut i dropped cart1 in there and it does
06:55.26jaynineso, im wondering if i have something that's keeping cartographer from starting
06:55.46Arrowmasterremove cart1 and try typing /cartographer
06:56.16jayninei took cart1 out before i did the last extract, but ill load it up again and type the command
06:56.58Arrowmasterand in your interface options menu check the box that says to show lua errors
06:58.18Arrowmasterif that box in your interface options wasnt already checked, check it then logout and back in again
07:00.11jaynineinterface/addons/cartographer/cartographer.lua:7:Library"Dewdrop-2.0" not found.
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07:01.03jaynine./cartographer doesnt call a command. says type help etc..
07:02.23Arrowmastersec
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07:06.16jaynineok.. progress
07:06.32jayninei renamed my wtf to wtf.old and reloaded the game, and it appears to work
07:06.34Arrowmasteri have no clue why you would be getting that error
07:06.40jayninebut, all my settings are jacked now =P
07:06.50Arrowmasterodd
07:08.23Arrowmasteryou really should not have been getting that error in the first place
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07:22.45CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r55105 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars2/App.lua:
07:22.45CIA-4UnitActionBars:
07:22.45CIA-4- Changed UABDebug to UAB2Debug.
07:22.46jayninehmm, well, tried to copy over some saved variables to see if i could get things working the same without having to redo them, and im no longer able to get cart to run again.. i did the same exercise by removing the wtf folder, and still didnt work this time..
07:22.51CIA-403sayclub * r55106 10GridAlert/locales/koKR.lua:
07:22.51CIA-4GridAlert :
07:22.51CIA-4- koKR typo fix
07:22.57jayninestarting to get sleepy with it now =P
07:23.05jayninebut i appreciate your help
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07:32.58CIA-403helium * r55107 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader.toc: AddonLoader: bump toc to 20300
07:33.34CIA-403helium * r55108 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-zhTW.lua: Bartender3: update zhTW localization
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07:33.58CIA-403hegarol * r55110 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
07:33.58CIA-4AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:33.58CIA-4- ZA update
07:33.59CIA-403helium * r55111 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/Cartographer_Mailboxes.toc: Cartographer_Mailboxes: bump toc to 20300
07:34.23CIA-403helium * r55112 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc: ClosetGnome_Tooltip: bump toc to 20300
07:35.06CIA-403helium * r55113 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (ClosetGnome_Zone.lua ClosetGnome_Zone.toc):
07:35.06CIA-4ClosetGnome_Zone:
07:35.06CIA-4- bump toc to 20300
07:35.06CIA-4- change ClosetGnome:Update to CGFu:Update
07:37.58Orionshockcan we call those people ToC-Freaks?
07:39.14CIA-403kemayo * r55114 10BankStack/ (core.lua fill.lua sort.lua stack.lua):
07:39.14CIA-4BankStack:
07:39.14CIA-4-Guild bank support is finer grained and more permissive -- it's your responsibility to not run out of withdrawals.
07:39.14CIA-4-IterateBags now has an optional role argument, which only affects it for guild bank tabs.
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07:41.59Tekkub*cry*
07:42.08Tekkubwhat should I do for the last 5 levels of engy?
07:42.19NightHawkTheSanecry, thats what.
07:42.28TekkubAdaman Rifles, which cost ~28g each and just went green...
07:42.46Tekkubor Khorium Scopes, whice are 130g and can resell (maybe) for 75g
07:42.57Tekkubbut are yellow
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07:43.16NightHawkTheSaneno one said leveling engy would be cheap. imo go with the scopes.
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07:43.28PhorbieI wish SLTimex had more options
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07:47.04Shujikunhey what's up
07:48.12durcynlast 5 levels?  60% mounts, perhaps.
07:49.40Tekkubthey're as much as the scope with no resale value
07:49.56KeiasTekkub, I did the rifles all the way
07:50.06Tekkubit's really a tossup.. I don't think I can move the scopes any time soon, and it looks like the mats are overpriced on the AH right now
07:50.13Keiastwo still gave me a skill up even though it was green
07:50.20Tekkubhow many you do 370-375?
07:50.29Keias10-12, I forgot the exact amount
07:50.39KeiasBut at least they NPC'd for a good chunk
07:50.40Tekkubstill cheaper than the scopes then
07:50.56KeiasI made one scope and could only get 40g for it :(
07:50.59KeiasSo I gave up on those lol
07:51.08TekkubI can do ~10 for the price of the scopes AFTER I sell them
07:52.38Xuerianugh...
07:53.00XuerianI didn't level eng from 60 to 70, now it's sitting at 310 and I don't want to touch that money sink
07:53.18XuerianAt least not till I get epic flier and can farm whatever I need quickly
07:53.20vithos2i was just about to start leveling engineering
07:53.31vithos2and then i read the blue post that says hunters aren't supposed to be able to drop combat with feign death on bosses.
07:53.32Morpheus|Deadhey Xuerian thanks for all those postal commits nice work
07:53.46XuerianMorpheus|Dead: You're probably talking about Xinhuan
07:53.55Morpheus|Deadugg i hate IRC LOL
07:53.58Morpheus|Deadsorry
07:53.59thul<PROTECTED>
07:54.07thuleasy to cap
07:54.08thul:-P
07:54.21Xuerianmining wasn't bad either
07:54.32thuland I make pretty good money
07:54.42XuerianI spent a day getting it from 300-375, and made 450g on teh fel iron I got when 2.3 hit and engineers when nuts
07:54.43vithos2on my server i regularly buy Fel Hide off the AH to vendor for profit
07:54.50XuerianThere was no fel iron on the ah and I HAD TONS
07:54.57vithos2which is why i was going to drop skinning
07:55.38Arrowmasterfeliron was more expensive than adamanitie on my server the other day
07:56.21xerawxwe require additional roflcopters
08:00.58Orionshockif (...) = nil then return end
08:01.03Orionshockis that the right formatting?
08:01.14thulthick clefthoof
08:01.18thulTHICK CLEFTHOOF
08:01.19thul:-P
08:01.24thulit makes 90g pr stack, atleast.
08:01.30thulsometimes i can sell it for 140g pr stack
08:01.33XuerianArrowmaster: I sold it for 25g per stack
08:01.43XuerianArrowmaster: Normal price is 9
08:02.52CIA-403helium * r55115 10DelMapa/DelMapa.toc: DelMapa: bump toc to 20300
08:02.53khang_CHEATER
08:03.17CIA-403helium * r55116 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: DeuceCommander: bump toc to 20300
08:03.52CIA-403helium * r55117 10StatLogicLib/ (StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua StatLogicLib.toc):
08:03.52CIA-4StatLogicLib:
08:03.52CIA-4- bump toc to 20300
08:03.52CIA-4- update zhTW localization
08:04.16Xuerian0_o
08:04.19KemayoIs there an addon whose sole responsibility is telling me very loudly "OMG [buff] JUST DROPPED ON YOU, FIX THAT!"?
08:04.22CIA-403helium * r55118 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc):
08:04.22CIA-4ElkBuffBars
08:04.23CIA-4- add zhTW localization
08:04.36XuerianKemayo: cork used to do that
08:05.57Tekkubused?
08:08.13Orionshocki did to begin with ?
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08:09.24CIA-4GridAlert :
08:09.25CIA-4- frFR typo fix
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08:11.39Xuerianwell
08:11.41Xuerianum
08:11.51Xueriany'see
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08:13.01Orionshock"infinity" is the name of the number concept, but when stuck in a loop how does one spell that word?
08:13.10Kemayoinfinite.
08:14.18Orionshock:D
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08:15.17CIA-4SickOfClickingDailies:
08:15.17CIA-4-Fix infinite loop of hell where you can't turn in any quest on an NPC.
08:15.17CIA-4-Deselect the NPC to stop it.
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08:21.50CIA-403next96 * r55121 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:
08:21.50CIA-4Skinner:
08:21.50CIA-4- Update locale koKR
08:24.38KemayoTekkub: I thought Cork was more of a subtle warning -- I want something that is very in my face.  Probably involving RaidWarningFrame...
08:25.05Tekkubso put the frame in the center of your screen
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08:25.42KemayoOh, it has its own frame?  I remembered it as just a fubar plugin.
08:26.12Tekkubit is...
08:27.30XuerianKemayo: haxxor it
08:27.37Xuerianu r l33t
08:27.48Orionshock....he should make it a 3.0 plugin :D
08:28.07Ozguliseen any of these yet?
08:28.08NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: i was thinking i needed a similar mod. I was considering writing somethign simple that just shoved a ginormous translucent frame in the center of the screen with the icon of the buff in question
08:28.08Ozgulihttp://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/Durn.jpg
08:28.35Xuerianbahaha
08:28.45XuerianAhh, stupid crap at 3am
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08:36.32CIA-403arkayenro * r55122 10ArkInventory/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
08:36.32CIA-4ArkInventory:
08:36.32CIA-4- 2.12a
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08:42.50theoddone33purl: 7 * 24
08:42.51purl168
08:45.26Orionshock? 3rd clear of KZ ... that mean it's on Farm?
08:46.03ulichow many bosses do you wipe on?
08:46.38Orionshock1 shot though curator, 3 on NB, 3 on Shade, ~2 on Prince and ~3 on NS
08:47.09ulicI probably wouldn't say the whole thing on farm yet
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08:50.42Orionshockya that's what i said to the warlock who's one of our guild's fellow officers
08:50.50Orionshockhe's a bit ... dense
08:51.09Andunekemayo:  check out PuntFu
08:51.09Ozguliwe wiped like 10 times against maiden of virtue, damn healers ...
08:51.28Ozgulibut at least they try, and take the thing seriously
08:51.28Orionshocki saw a SSC guild last night do maiden in 1:45
08:51.34Andunewon't yell at you, but gives you a nice green/red color check on your FuBar that you can place in a conspicuous spot
08:52.15Anduneand I use XRS to keep track of the same thing for the entire raid.
08:53.16Ozgulibtw, how much dps a rogue should have when starting kara?
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08:55.37thul400-700 somewhere
08:56.52Ozgulithat's pretty widely scaled then
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08:59.56thulhttp://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4909/wowscrnshot111707014426dh8.jpg
09:00.00thulI kind of liked that ui
09:00.21thulOzguli: well, I did about 550-600 when i started there, combat daggers, now I do about 700-800 with combat hemo.
09:00.32Ozgulimm
09:02.17thulhttp://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5908/wowscrnshot111507180550rh7.jpg
09:02.19thulkind of ok too
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09:03.26Ozgulihah check the last chat line of that screenshot
09:03.31Ozgulieveryone's been saying that
09:04.14Ozgulibut tell me
09:04.30Ozguliwhy people want their unitframes to be in the center of screen?
09:04.47thulhttp://dukeath.free.fr/DukeSuiA.jpg that one was ok too
09:04.51thulwell, to see them easier
09:04.55Ozgulimaybe solo play...
09:05.01LukianOzguli, yeah, that's where you are looking
09:05.01Ozgulibut anything in a group then it'll suck
09:05.16Lukianheh, of course group won't be in the middle ^^
09:05.36thulhttp://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_ui3.png <- my ui
09:05.43Ozgulilet's see if my own UI is anywhere near latest version
09:05.48thulyou can see the groups up to the left
09:06.21thulI still can't get over that i normal critted a mage for 2289 in EotS
09:06.38Ozguliquite recent: http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/WoWScrnShot_111307_205233.jpg
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09:07.40kebinusanBleh someone lead my guild for me, I hate being everyones daddy
09:07.47Ozguliwtf...
09:07.53Ozguliyou're a rogue anyway?
09:08.16thulyeah, I'm a rogue.
09:08.20Ozgulipretty imba crit then
09:08.20thulkebinusan: /gquit
09:08.24durcynkebinusan: well then, maybe you shouldn't sleep with their mothers.
09:08.36CIA-403nargiddley 07Beta * r55123 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (AceGUI-3.0.lua widgets/AceGUIWidget-EditBox.lua):
09:08.36CIA-4Ace3 - AceGUI: More 2.3 Editbox goodness
09:08.36CIA-4- Fix frame flickering when options are chosen
09:08.52OzguliI have like... 800-900 normal crits
09:09.05thulyeah.. I did cs, hemo, hemo and did expose armor, then critted normal.
09:09.11kebinusanGranted they have no use, but a paladin decided to withdraw 20some flasks of petrification so he could screw around in orgrimmar.  'id use em 5 at a time then bubble hearth'
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09:09.52thuli dunno how much armor a mage has after 2050 armor reduct.
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09:10.12Shujikuni'm using DaHud atm
09:10.20Ozgulioo expose armor
09:10.28OzguliI rarely use that in pvp
09:10.33Shujikunalong with bongos and a bunch of automatico
09:10.45Ozgulibtw, lolled a bit when we got same team against us twice
09:10.57Ozgulispriest and (prot?) warrior
09:11.22thulI have started using it a bit, when i team up with a rogue from my guild
09:11.26Ozgulidamn the tauren took some beating :\
09:11.28thulhe stuns, I damages and EAs :-P
09:11.30thulhehe
09:11.36thulprot warriors are.. tough :-P
09:11.38Zhinjiofor those that asked me privately, my latest UI is now up on curse. PSD, PSP and TGA files are all included in the bundle. Feel free to do with them what you will... previews and files can also still be found here: http://geo.trippy.org/images/zjui8/
09:11.41thul20k armor and 20k hp :-P
09:11.44Ozguliindeed
09:11.56Zhinjioand now, bed.
09:11.59Ozgulibut they didn't get us killed anyway
09:12.45thulwell, he can
09:12.51thulwell, he can't have much of a damage output?
09:12.55Ozgulia -prot- warrior?
09:13.10OzguliI could've just kept him stunned while my partner bandages himself
09:13.30Ozgulior he'd have hamstringed the opponent while I heal
09:16.31thulmhm
09:17.17CIA-403next96 * r55124 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:
09:17.17CIA-4Skinner:
09:17.17CIA-4- koKR typo fix
09:17.18thulbah, trying to figure out how to do keybindings..
09:18.10thulthinking about stop using asdw and start using sedf, then I can use qwrt more effectively
09:18.40kebinusanyeah I use esdf
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09:18.53CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
09:18.53CIA-4- Added a couple of comments to Speedy's code :P
09:18.53CIA-4- Fixed progress bar always showing as 100% full
09:18.54kebinusanswitched almost a year ago, the extra buttons are nice
09:19.18thulhttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/Copilot40oz/WoWScrnShot_110307_032447.jpg <- nice one
09:19.44thulI can imagine that I can use more of the numbers too now 1-4 is easy, i think 1-5 can be just as easy with esdf
09:21.41thulhemo at r, gouge at w, snd at g, ks at ctrl-r, kick at ctrl-w, rupture at ctrl-g stealthed: cs at r, garrote at w, sap at g
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09:21.54thuland ofc, evisc, expose etc at 1-5, ctrl-1-5
09:21.55thulgood times.
09:23.43mort<3 saitek game command unit
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09:29.58CIA-403nargiddley 07Beta * r55126 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (AceGUI-3.0.lua widgets/AceGUIWidget-InlineGroup.lua): Ace3 - AceGUI: Attempt to fix gaps left in layout by inline groups
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09:35.15Ackishrmmm
09:35.16Ellipsis:(
09:36.06AckisI allow my mod to be closed with escape with "tinsert(UISpecialFrames, "AckisRecipeListFrame")", however pressing escape doesn't make my frame close function work
09:37.22Ackisanyone know how to fix that?
09:38.02Xinhuanwhat is your frame close function
09:38.53Xinhuanyour problem is vague... is your frame not closing?
09:39.23Ackisno the frame closes, just some of the children are artifacting (ie: scans fron enchanting are being shown for alchemy if I scanned alchemy first)
09:39.43Xinhuan"however pressing escape doesn't make my frame close function work"
09:39.46Xinhuanwhat does that mean then
09:39.57Ackispressing escape doesn't call my close function
09:40.05Ackiswhereas pressing the close button calls the close function
09:40.17Xinhuanwhen you press ESC, the default UI's code does a
09:40.26XinhuanHideUIPanel("AckisRecipeListFrame")
09:40.36Xinhuanif you want any code to be run then, you have to do it all in
09:40.41Xinhuanthe OnHide event handler of AckisRecipeListFrame
09:40.58Ackisahh ok, that makes sense
09:41.17AckisHideUIPanel = Fame:Hide()?
09:41.20Xinhuanalmost
09:41.21Ackis*frame
09:41.34Xinhuanif your frame is registered to be opened alongside other Blizzard frames
09:41.40Xinhuanthen it doesn't do that
09:41.46Xinhuanotherwise it calls frame:hide()
09:42.20Xinhuanif your frame opens/closes with other blizzard frames, hiding it will cause other frames to shift left, etc
09:42.33Xinhuanget what i mean?
09:42.42Xinhuanbut essentially, a :Hide() is called
09:42.48Ackisyes, kinda like opening two trade skill windows
09:42.56Xinhuanand whatever you do should be in OnHide handler
09:43.04Xinhuanand not in some function you call on your close button
09:43.06Ackisok, that's my fundamental mistake then
09:43.33Tekkuband the science gets done and you make a neat gun for the people who are still alive
09:43.50Ackisthe cake is a lie
09:43.54Xinhuanall the close button should do is call self:GetParent():Hide()
09:44.04Xinhuanand OnHide does everything else
09:44.11Ackisyah i had a bunch of other code in it, which I'll move to OnHide
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09:44.45Xinhuanso no matter how the frame is closed, whether its closed by another addon, by default UI, etc
09:44.49Xinhuanyour onhide always runs
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09:54.57CIA-403ackis * r55127 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
09:54.57CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
09:54.57CIA-4- Fixed recipe display issues when changing from one skill to another, and closing with escape (thanks Xinhuan)
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10:02.11GngskInterest ya in a pint?
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10:20.16Ackisugh everytime I make a change to commit w/ notepad++ I keep getting invalid EOL errors from the svn lol
10:20.45CIA-403ackis * r55128 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
10:20.45CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
10:20.45CIA-4- Fix for acquisition text being displayed off screen, should also fix display of hunter pet skills as well
10:20.46CIA-403funkydude * r55129 10/branches/BasicBuffs/ (. BasicBuffs.lua BasicBuffs.toc): BasicBuffs: Initial import, minimalistic Ace3 addon for moving buffs
10:22.00Xinhuanmaybe your SVN software is wrong or something
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10:23.04Nargiddleycomitting a new file ?
10:23.17Ackisno, updating a current one
10:23.51Ackisnot a big deal, i just do the convert to unix format, then back again w/ notepad++ and it fixed it
10:24.13Xinhuani think your svn software could be configured incorrectly
10:25.27AckisI'm using TortoiseSVN, and I do have the "svn:eol-style native" set in the config file
10:27.37CIA-403funkydude * r55130 10/branches/BasicBuffs/ (. BasicBuffs.lua BasicBuffs.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): BasicBuffs: add comments, setup externals
10:28.31Xinhuansetting that isn't enough if you don't have auto-props enabled too :)
10:29.33Ackisyup got that too it looks like
10:29.35Ackisenable-auto-props = yes
10:29.53Ackisand: *.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native;svn:keywords=Revision Date
10:30.06Ackisi had followed the steps from the wikki iirc
10:30.26Xinhuanwhat file format are you using
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10:31.11Ackison an XP PC, with notepad++ working with unix format
10:31.25Xinhuanwhy unix
10:31.52Ackissave a bit of bandwidth for uploads lol
10:31.57Xinhuanyour files should be on UTF-8
10:32.04Nargiddleythats the problem then
10:32.05Ackisyah they're encoded in UTF-8
10:32.21CIA-403eldurias * r55132 10obRaidAssist/ (3 files):
10:32.21CIA-4obRaidAssist:
10:32.21CIA-4- some bugfixes
10:32.35Xinhuandon't use unix format
10:32.36Nargiddleyeol-style:native means the server expects and gives you your native style
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10:32.49Xinhuanif you're on windows, you should be using windows
10:32.51CIA-403kemayo * r55133 10BuffDrop/ (. BuffDrop.toc core.lua):
10:32.51CIA-4BuffDrop: Initial import.
10:32.51CIA-4-Warns you REALLY VISIBLY when selected buffs fade.
10:32.51CIA-4-Setup like: "/bd watch Righteous Fury"
10:33.08Ackisahh I thought that was when the file was downloaded
10:33.39Xinhuanno its when its uploaded
10:33.59Xinhuanwhen you download it, it always converts to whatever format your system is
10:34.03Xinhuanwhich is windows
10:35.03thulanyone tried ZA much yet?
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10:35.45KemayoXuerian: As suggested, I have haxxored.
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10:37.07EllipsisKemayo: does BuffDrop just warn you once, or does it keep nagging?
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10:41.12KemayoEllipsis: Just once.  It's targetted mainly at the need-to-keep-up-Righteous-Fury crowd.
10:42.11AudrinaAnyone know the command to cast something on myself without targeting myself?
10:42.40Kemayo(aka: I got sick of hearing my SO saying "sorry guys, I didn't notice Righteous Fury went down" in raids.)
10:42.48Ellipsisheh
10:42.51KemayoAudrina: /cast [target=player] Foo
10:42.53KemayoI think.
10:43.20KemayoEllipsis: If you'd prefer a persistent reminder the CorkFu handles that, I think.
10:43.34AudrinaThanks
10:47.51CIA-403funkydude * r55134 10/branches/BasicBuffs/BasicBuffs.toc: BasicBuffs: toc fix
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10:49.19thulhmm, I see people running wow in wine at 50fps etc...
10:49.20thulnice
10:49.56EllipsisKemayo: thanks for the suggestion, but I've tried CorkFu before and it wasn't quite what I wanted
10:50.29KemayoPuntFu was also suggested to me earlier, if you've not tried that.
10:50.57Ellipsishmm, I'll take a look
10:50.58Ellipsisthanks :)
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11:04.18CIA-403eldurias * r55135 10obRaidAssist/ (3 files):
11:04.18CIA-4obRaidAssist:
11:04.18CIA-4- Grouper: enhance the module with player role feature
11:04.18CIA-4- Magtheridon: enhance the module regarding clickers that are not set
11:04.18CIA-4- other: change translation, some minor bugfixes
11:04.20break19omg.. he lives.. ck, i was worried, thought maybe you'd fallen into one of the volcanos or something. :p
11:04.38CIA-403funkydude * r55136 10Squeenix/Hidebuttons.lua: Squeenix: bugfix
11:07.24Pkekyomorning all
11:07.33AudrinaHello!
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11:10.24ProvusDoes anyone know how to fish out the Vampiric Touch icon from the WoW data?
11:10.56ProvusI want to make a custom macro icon by flipping it around horizontally.
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11:11.25SmjThat would break the lAWZ
11:11.38ProvusI know how to put in the custom icon.
11:11.46ProvusI just don't know how to fish it out of the WoW data
11:12.09Nargiddleygrab the bliz interface tool, it can extract the interface art
11:12.14ProvusWhere's that at?
11:12.20Nargiddley~framexml
11:12.21purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com
11:12.36ProvusThanks purl
11:12.50Ellipsislol
11:12.57Ellipsisit's so cute when people talk to the bot :P
11:13.28ProvusOh, it's a bot.
11:13.31ProvusMy bad.
11:13.36ProvusThanks Narg
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11:14.35break19heh
11:15.38sag_ich_nichthey
11:15.39sag_ich_nichtEllipsis
11:15.43Ellipsiso hai
11:15.56sag_ich_nichti just did a shadow lab heroic run
11:15.57sag_ich_nichtwell
11:16.00sag_ich_nicht1.57 MB taintlog
11:16.03Ellipsissweet
11:16.09sag_ich_nichtprepare for stabbity!
11:16.14Ellipsiscan I watch?
11:16.28sag_ich_nichtsure
11:16.32sag_ich_nichtjust lemme upload the log fist
11:16.35sag_ich_nicht*first
11:16.43sag_ich_nichtalso
11:16.49sag_ich_nichtthe new fear mechanics are bugged
11:16.56Ellipsiso rly
11:17.00ProvusEhm, crap, anyone know the internal name to Vampiric Touch?
11:17.22Ellipsisif you're looking for the icon, you'll probably find it most easily through wowwiki's list
11:17.32ProvusWell it has to be perfect quality
11:17.34sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: ya rly, the fear moves casters into 110% range and the tank into 130% range
11:17.36Pkekyoerr....taintlog?
11:17.46sag_ich_nichtPkekyo: /console taintLog 1
11:17.55sag_ich_nichtand since the mobs now always obey the threatlist
11:18.06Pkekyowhat's a taintlog? :)
11:18.09ProvusAlso, don't see it on Wowwiki.
11:18.27sag_ich_nichtPkekyo: a log of tainting
11:18.28Ellipsisis it one of these? http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Spell_Shadow
11:18.28sag_ich_nichtduh
11:18.34OrionshockProvus: UI forum, Sticky at top
11:18.48ProvusApparently I'm very wrong.
11:19.03Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: er, what feat are you talking about? from that one boss?
11:19.03Orionshock** Pkekyo
11:19.07Ellipsisfeat = fear*
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11:19.23ProvusCrap. I don't see it here. I'll keep looking
11:19.42sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: all fears
11:19.46Pkekyoeu or us UI forums?
11:19.46sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: mob fears, etc.
11:19.49sag_ich_nichtfear was changed in 2.3
11:19.54sag_ich_nichtso mobs now always follow the threat list
11:19.57sag_ich_nichteven when targets are feared
11:20.59break19which is good
11:21.11break19tank can keep aggro even if he gets feared. yay
11:21.33break19great for range/healers who werent in range of the fears, previously
11:21.41break19pr resisted it
11:21.42Ellipsisyeah, I'm not quite sure how I feel about it
11:21.55Ellipsissince I'm not a tard, I tend to outrange fears whenever possible, which means this change makes my life easier
11:21.58Pkekyobreak19: it's a great change for paladins and druid tanks....it's an ugly blow to warrior tanks...
11:22.02sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/taint.log AnduinLothar, your shit breaks shit. ckknight_, your shit breaks shit. where is cogwheel? his shit breaks shit, too!
11:22.15ProvusHuh. I found it in 'Holy'
11:22.19ProvusGo figure.
11:22.25thulwe don|t like warriors
11:22.35Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: what did you do, try and open/play with every UI frame you could think of while in combat?
11:22.42break19being a hunter, I love it.. no more hopin the healer who also didnt get feared, can keep me up long enough for the fear to wear off. :p
11:22.47Pkekyothul: diaf :<
11:22.49sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: nope
11:22.53sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: just played normally
11:22.56sag_ich_nichtnothing fancy
11:22.57sag_ich_nichtno testing
11:22.58sag_ich_nichtno nothing
11:23.13Ellipsisalso, I really wanna know how autodnd breaks shit
11:23.14Ellipsiso.O
11:23.18sag_ich_nichtso do i.
11:23.21thulwarriors gets too much love :-P
11:23.29thulmore love to rogues :-D
11:23.34Pkekyowhatever you're on thul, I want some!
11:23.42Pkekyo'cause you're bloody delusional
11:23.58break19woah, looks like XUB does LOTS of stuff it aint supposed to, while in combat. lol
11:24.21CIA-403ackis * r55137 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files):
11:24.21CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
11:24.21CIA-4- Localization optimizations
11:24.22Pkekyofigures you're a rogue when saying warriors get too much love... /shrug
11:24.31sag_ich_nichtoh
11:24.35sag_ich_nichtenhtooltip breaks shit, too!
11:25.08break19does it actually -break- stuff, or just show up in the log? blue says unless it -breaks- your game, you can safely ignore it
11:25.29Ellipsisbreak19: did you read the log?
11:25.31CIA-403aliset * r55138 10StatFrameLib/StatFrameLib.toc:
11:25.31CIA-4StatFrameLib:
11:25.31CIA-4- Bump that TOC, you're feeling fine!
11:25.38Ackistaint.log... why does that make me giggle? :P
11:25.47Ellipsisit looks like a taintLog 1, which means it's only reporting things that *actually* cause blocked actions
11:25.52sag_ich_nichtbreak19: taintlog 1
11:26.10sag_ich_nichtwho writes durabilityfu?
11:26.12sag_ich_nichtit breaks shit too
11:26.21Ellipsislast person to touch it was vhaarr *hides*
11:26.24break19well then.. I dunno.. I use quite a few of those same mods, and not once do I get an action blocked message while in game
11:26.27Orionshocksag_ich_nicht: many
11:26.37CIA-403pettigrow * r55139 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: frFR Update (thanks Khyaz)
11:26.43Ellipsistbh, I'm supposed to be maintaining/rewriting it atm >_>
11:26.44break19.. including durabilityFu
11:26.56sag_ich_nichtbreak19 that is because you are not as awesome at attracting bugs as i am
11:27.33Pkekyo~seen nevcairiel
11:27.38purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 13h 25m 57s) #wowace (1d 13h 25m 57s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1h 25m 31s, last said: 'a feral druid doesnt have a shield either'.
11:27.38Pkekyonevcairiel: PING?
11:27.55ProvusDownloading a 162kb BLP converter from this website is taking a hilariously long time.
11:29.00Orionshockim still looking for some one to make me a better version of GEM/GuildCalender -- 100$
11:29.25nevcairielPkekyo?
11:29.42Pkekyoyou're the author of bartender, if memory serves..?
11:30.08sag_ich_nichtHA
11:30.13sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel your shit breaks shit, too!
11:30.18Pkekyorofl
11:30.23sag_ich_nicht11/17 11:02:10.514
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11:30.35sag_ich_nichtthere now FIX IT or i will devour you
11:30.43sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/taint.log
11:30.46Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: if it helps, I think I know why DuraFu is tainting, and it will be fixed when I stop being lazy and do my port :/
11:31.04sag_ich_nichtgood.
11:31.06sag_ich_nichtNEXT.
11:31.18Diaotbh
11:31.19Diaothe uh
11:31.25Diaomobs still attacking feared target
11:31.30Diaois really really bad for pally/druid tanks lol
11:31.37Diaowarriors are still the best tanks for fearing mobs
11:31.50Diaotoday i wasn't paying attention on nightbane and didn't break a fear with berserker rage
11:31.55sag_ich_nichtno, it's not. the way it's implemented is bad.
11:31.58Pkekyonevcairiel: after I updated (patch day) several of the bars I used to have has dissapeared...any idea why?
11:32.01Diaoi ran around in circles
11:32.04Diaohe kept hitting me
11:32.09Diaoa rogue got feared and ran near me
11:32.09sag_ich_nichtbecause of 130%/110% aggro range overlappings because of fear
11:32.11Diaodied to cleave GG
11:32.20buuDiao: Er, how is is worse than him running off and dropping a healer?
11:32.20Diaoso yes, warriors are still #1 tanks for fearing mobs :)
11:32.31Diaoum
11:32.34Diaowell it's about the same
11:32.43Diaoif i'd been feared into the ranged group instead of opposite direction
11:32.47Diaohe probably would've wiped the raid
11:32.54Diaotaught me never to look away from the screen while tanking him :P
11:33.03sag_ich_nichtDiao: exactly what i'm complaining about
11:33.07Diaobut yes, warriors still rule on that front
11:33.08Diaowhich is good
11:33.18sag_ich_nichti immediatly understood the issue today in SL when the mobs feared
11:33.21sag_ich_nichtthis needs to be looked at
11:33.26sag_ich_nichtactually someone make a post about this on the PTR
11:33.28Orionshockguess taintlog ain't a cVar
11:33.29sag_ich_nicht*PTR forum
11:33.30sag_ich_nichtit'
11:33.34sag_ich_nicht*it's horrible behaviour
11:33.35break19Diao: problem is.. the ranged group wouldnt have been feared... so.. he would have run straight for the ranged group
11:33.42sag_ich_nichtOrionshock: the cvar is called taintLog
11:33.45sag_ich_nichtset it to 1
11:33.47Diaouh
11:33.49Diaoi dunno
11:33.53Diaohis fear generally hits my ranged too
11:33.59Diaoi have them stand relatively close though
11:34.23buuI still don't get where the bad thing is.
11:34.35sag_ich_nichtEllipsis
11:34.39break19i like the new behavior
11:34.41Orionshock& has anyone found a way to scale the dam ! on the map?>
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11:34.46Diaoit's just as bad now as it was prepatch is what i'm saying
11:34.46sag_ich_nichtdo me a favor and post the link to my taintlog in the sticky on the UI forums
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11:35.13Diaojust, instead of fearing the tank and going after someone else, he fears the tank, follows it, cleaves/breathes/tailswipes the raid
11:35.14nevcairielPkekyo: no idea, didnt get any bugs on PTR or on live now
11:35.17buuDiao: I mean, either he runs over and kills someone squishy and possible important or he hits the tank.
11:35.20buuOh, bleh.
11:35.24Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: get someone else to do it, I'm fixing durafu :(
11:35.28buuThat's still and improvment.
11:35.31Diaolol
11:35.38Diaoi guess if you think of it that way
11:35.41sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: okay
11:35.45sag_ich_nichtBLEETER SHOW UP
11:35.59buuI mean, he'd normally run over, breath, swipe, etc the group *and* melee random people!
11:36.03Diao;p
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11:36.11nevcairielPkekyo: i blame other addons interfering
11:36.12Diaoeither way
11:36.12buuI'd much rather eat an aoe instead of a crushing.
11:36.17Diaoi did a full kara clear today except for animal boss
11:36.19Pkekyonevcairiel: hmm, ok, gonna see if I can find out where they went then
11:36.19Diao22 badges
11:36.23Diaoin 3 hours
11:36.28Pkekyonevcairiel: autobar is my prime suspect tbh
11:36.29Diaoso ~7 badges per hour
11:36.31Diaoamazing.
11:36.34sag_ich_nichtoh right
11:36.36Diaotoo bad it's only once a week :(
11:36.38sag_ich_nichtsw_stats breaks shit too
11:36.45sag_ich_nichti have to flame in his forum too i guess!
11:36.53Pkekyothe bars in question had professions etc on them, when I updated to the autobar version with professions, the BT3 bars dissapeared
11:36.53ProvusErm.. huh. This.. didn't work.. I flipped the image around, ran the converter to turn it into a BLP, put it in Interface\Icons, and ran WoW, and it doesn't seem to be in the macro selection box.
11:36.58Diaohasn't sws not been updated for like
11:37.01Diao8 months
11:37.11buuDiao: Those badges are so awesome.
11:37.17buuDiao: Now I actually look forward to kara runs.
11:37.17Diaoyeah they are
11:37.23Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:37.32Diaoalso, found a way to get around the missing badge problem in chess event
11:37.33Orionshocki have to go download devtools again
11:37.34buu"We killed netherspite? Fuck yeah, loot that corpse"
11:37.34ProvusWait, I found it. They're sorted alphabetically.
11:37.45Diaomake sure everyone looted the chest first before the ML if you use ML
11:37.49Diaoand they'll all get their badges
11:38.07buuDiao: Yes..
11:38.24buuDiao: You just refrain from doing anything with the item until everyone has looted it..
11:38.25Provus..ew. I got some really bad quality loss.
11:38.25PkekyoDiao: you can loot the chess chest after ML handed out the loot as well...
11:38.35Diaouh
11:38.35buuPkekyo: Um. Really?
11:38.41Diaounless they hotfixed it
11:38.46Diaothere was a bug if the loot was distributed already
11:38.51Diaobadges would disappear
11:38.58Pkekyobuu: worked for my guild two nights ago...
11:39.00buuI haven't heard of a fix..
11:39.14buuPkekyo: You got all of the epix out of the chest and everyone was able to get badges with the items gone?
11:39.27Pkekyobuu: correctemundo
11:39.27Diaomust've been a ninja server-side fix?
11:39.41Diaodid a hmech yesterday or day before
11:39.42break19or, its not a everytime-bug
11:39.45Diaoand didn't get badges
11:39.49Diaohad to page a gm
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11:40.34Pkekyohuh
11:40.51Diaofor the badge from the cache of the legion
11:40.52Diaoor whatever
11:41.18buuDiao: How many badges is hmech now?
11:41.21Diao4
11:41.26Diao1 per boss + 1 from cache
11:41.30Diaonone from gatekeepers anymore
11:41.34sag_ich_nichtsomeone have an account on the SW stats forums?
11:41.49sag_ich_nichti need someone to post the link to the taintlog there
11:41.57PkekyoDiao: wha, gatekeepers nerfed? :O
11:41.59sag_ich_nichtbecause my account there is broken for some reason
11:42.02Diaoin hmech yes
11:42.04PkekyoI'm never doing heroic mech again then /shrug
11:42.06Diaoyou no longer get badge from them
11:42.12Diaoneed to get it from the cache near elevator
11:42.18buuLame.
11:42.18Diaoso you get 1 instead of the prior 2
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11:42.36Diaohmech is still one of the fastest badge runs in terms of time/badge
11:42.37Ellipsismeh, rather run kara than h mech anyway
11:42.46Diaoyea but if you want to get a lot of badges
11:42.51Diao22 badges in 1 week
11:42.56Diaosupplemented by heroics :)
11:43.03Diaoalthough you get 2 per daily quest from the heroic daily
11:43.06Diaoplus 24g
11:43.12Diaoso that's generally the best to do
11:43.14buuAnd ZA
11:43.22Diaoand ZA every 3 days yes
11:43.23buuThere's another 12 badges a week
11:43.26buuEr, 24 a week
11:43.28Diaoif you can full clear
11:43.33buuIf you're l33t!
11:43.37Diaobut many guilds have trouble getting past just the first few ;)
11:43.42buuI have a question though, what's the fastest instance to farm blues?
11:43.42sag_ich_nichtsomeone here have an account on the sw stats forums?
11:43.47Diaomy guild is stuck on 3rd boss atm but we haven't honestly tried too hard
11:43.55Diaoblues for LPS?
11:44.05sag_ich_nichtsomeone here have an account on the sw stats forums?
11:44.09ProvusWoo, did it.
11:44.15Diaoi was going to make one
11:44.17Diaobut i never did
11:44.22CIA-403cossy * r55141 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.lua AutoTurnin.toc):
11:44.22CIA-4AutoTurnin:
11:44.22CIA-4- toc updated to 2.3
11:44.22CIA-4- changed tcount back to getn, because tcount doesn't seems to work
11:44.22CIA-4- code alignment changed a little bit
11:44.25Diaois reg closed or something?
11:44.30sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: what do you think of my stabbery so far? :P
11:44.37ProvusNow I've got a focus counterspell and a target counterspell that both point at the frame they're meant for, haha.
11:44.41Pkekyook, someone broke autobar
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11:44.51Pkekyotoadkiller around?
11:44.58Diaohey there's a new version of sws
11:44.59Pkekyo~seen toadkiller
11:45.00purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 51m 18s ago, saying: 'Yeah always use a soft brush'.
11:45.02Diaoon the sws forums
11:45.08Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: very aggressive, I like it
11:45.16buuDiao: Yeah
11:45.29buuDiao: Maybe BM? But it's sort of timered.
11:45.35buuBF is pretty like
11:45.36buuEr, long
11:45.46DiaoBM is ~30 min if your group is good
11:45.50buuMaybe MT or SH?
11:45.57Diaouhh
11:46.03DiaoMT drops SPS unless you do heroic
11:46.08buuOh, shucks.
11:46.25buuBut BM is lps?
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11:46.32Diaoyea
11:46.37Diaoinstances with LPS are uhh
11:46.53OrionshockURG....
11:47.00CIA-403ackis * r55142 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
11:47.00CIA-4AckisRecipeList:
11:47.00CIA-4- Code Optimizations, removed functions to access db variables, and just access db variables directly (Speedy, look at ToggleAllSorting, I never did that one)
11:47.02Orionshockthe zone and subzone frames are not scroll frames
11:47.05DiaoBM, OHB(i think), seth, slab, sh, arc, bot, mech, sv
11:47.05Orionshock>.\
11:47.07Diaofor non-heroic
11:47.26Pkekyois there any bugreport function for ace addons?
11:47.34sag_ich_nichtyeah.
11:47.36sag_ich_nichtit's called
11:47.39sag_ich_nichtFLAME ON THE IRC AND JIRA
11:47.39Diaojira?
11:47.41Diaolol
11:47.43sag_ich_nichtit works pretty good
11:47.53sag_ich_nichtISN'T THAT RIGHT CKKNIGHT?
11:48.08Ellipsisbuu: LPS farming = imbued netherweave stuff
11:48.15Pkekyojira?
11:48.23Ellipsisjira.wowace.com
11:48.32Diaoyea but imbued netherweaves require arcane dust :(
11:48.38Pkekyomeh, some twat broke ArkInventory as well
11:48.39Diaoalthough that's how i got a bunch of LPS for my gbank
11:48.46Ellipsisyeah but you get the arcane dust from DEing the netherweave bracers
11:48.50Diaowe had 80 stacks of arcane dust
11:48.53Diaoin the bank from kara runs
11:49.00Ellipsisso lots and lots of netherweave = lots of dust and netherweave = lots of LPS :)
11:49.06Diaoand i'd farmed 200 spider silk
11:49.12Diaoand like 800 stacks of cloth
11:49.17Diaoso i had a tailor convert them into robes
11:49.20Diaofor LPS
11:49.38buuEllipsis: Hrm.
11:49.43buuI've got lots of dust.
11:49.47buuThat's not a bad idea.
11:49.50Ellipsisthen you can skip the bracers step
11:49.56buuI bet we could easily get netherweave/dust donations.
11:49.56Ellipsiswhich makes it even more cost effective
11:50.08Diaoeasy way to get netherweave
11:50.11Pkekyonevcairiel: found the bars....had been automatically disabled for some reason...
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11:50.18Diaofarm ogres in nagrand for maghar/kurenai rep
11:50.19buuEllipsis: The imbued ones?
11:50.22Diaoand consortium rep too
11:50.26buuDiao: I like killing blood elves =/
11:50.28Diaoyea imbued
11:50.36Diaowell the ogres are level 65-66
11:50.41Diaoreally easy to farm, especially as arms warr :)
11:50.46Diaoi can get 10-20 stacks of cloth per hour
11:50.53Diaoalong with 50+g and tons of warbeads
11:51.02buuDiao: The belves in er, the mana forges are like 67
11:51.04Diaoand a bunch of random greens/blues
11:51.08Ellipsisbuu: no, regular netherweave bracers turn netherweave into arcane dust
11:51.09Diaoah
11:51.09buuBut I like the ones on to of the BT
11:51.16buuEllipsis: Ah.
11:51.18Diaowell i 3 shot the ogres due to increased crit/hit chance
11:51.22buuDiao: Cool.
11:51.26Diaoanything higher i tend to take longer to kill :(
11:51.28buuDiao: I just affliction everything to death.
11:51.30Diaoso i like to farm the ogres :P
11:51.34Diaoah warlock
11:51.40Diaothat's the difference :P
11:51.43sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: they can be glad i'm not playing a pet class
11:51.43buuLook ma, my siphon life heals me fore MORE THAN YOUR DPS.
11:51.48sag_ich_nichtotherwise that stuff would be tainted, too!
11:51.52Diaoif i were a prot pally i'd probably go farm the be at BT too
11:51.58Diaololaoe50mobs
11:52.05Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: I can only imagine
11:52.09buuDiao: Dude, fucking prot pallies keep stealing my mobs up there.
11:52.13sag_ich_nichtactually
11:52.13buuDouchbags.
11:52.15Diaorofl
11:52.20sag_ich_nichti still have reappearing unitframes installed
11:52.30buuDiao: I can clear the entire thing in like 45 seconds, but I don't tag every mob at once =[
11:52.31sag_ich_nichtnow even more shit is going to break!
11:52.32Orionshockanyone know if hooking ZoneText_OnEvent() does anything bad?
11:52.36Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: oh god, oh god
11:52.36Diaoyeah
11:52.44buuDiao: Although watching mages try to aoe fun is great fun.
11:53.07EllipsisI love when stupid mages try and AE farm the wrong spots
11:53.21Ellipsisor take on too much
11:53.36buuDiao: The nice thing about up there is when you get bored you can exploit the elites to death
11:53.50Diaoo_
11:53.52Diaoo_O*
11:53.55Diaohow?
11:54.07buuCast dot.. jump off cliff.. wait.. climb up cliff
11:54.09buuGoto 1
11:54.11Diaooh
11:54.12Diaoright
11:54.14Diaoranged :(
11:54.20Ellipsislulz
11:54.21buuYeah, might take a while with throwing stars.
11:54.25Diaohaha
11:54.25Ellipsisl2lockspl0itz
11:54.31Diaoi need to level a lock for farming
11:54.34buuEllipsis: Hilariously you used to be able to do it to most of underbog.
11:54.38Diaoit's so easy to level nowadays
11:54.39Ellipsisbuu: yeah, saw the vids
11:54.43buuDiao: I'm leveling a hunter for that!
11:54.57Ellipsisthat epic korean guy solo farming heroic UB... /sigh
11:55.12Ellipsisof course, he ruined it for all of us by making people talk on the forums about it so Blizz nerfed the pathing bugs :(
11:55.22Diaothat's how everything gets nerfed :(
11:55.22buuEllipsis: That was pretty hot I have to say.
11:55.28buuHrm.
11:55.28Diaoonce someone releases a video
11:55.32Diaopeople complain, it gets nerfed
11:55.47thulwhich video? :-P
11:55.47buuHeh
11:56.02BelazorI should make a video of me soloing Deadmines, maybe they'll nerf it so I can solo it with my lowbie alts ;D
11:56.04buuMaking imbued netherweave pants for shards would cost 1.5 times as much as just buying them.
11:56.20Ackisduo farming BT > solo farming UB imo
11:56.34Ellipsisthul: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8640617637006519726
11:56.36thulI solo raid UC
11:56.37thulwith my human rogue
11:56.44Diaolol
11:56.52Diaothat got nerfed so fast Ackis :(
11:57.05Ackisaye it did
11:57.14thulwho did that ?
11:57.19Ellipsisbuu: check your AH, on mine the robes sell for just under shard cost
11:58.10buuEllipsis: On mine the shards go for around 20g.. 90 cloth = 18 gold
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11:58.41buuHeh, arcanoweave boots
11:58.45Ackisdo your AH's have shards less than voids?
11:58.46buu16 dust 7 bolts
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11:58.51Ellipsisbuu: your server fails if netherweave is that expensive...
11:58.53buuAckis: I think so.
11:58.55sag_ich_nichtvoids aren't worth SHIT
11:59.01sag_ich_nichtthey are worth less than shards, actually
11:59.03buuEllipsis: Well, netherweave has a minimum price of 3g
11:59.09Ellipsisnot on my server ;D
11:59.10buuEllipsis: I normally can sell for 4 easily.
11:59.15buuEllipsis: Um. You can vendor it for 3g
11:59.17EllipsisI know
11:59.20Ellipsisbut most people don't realize that
11:59.21buuWhat the fuck
11:59.29EllipsisI've been profiting by vendoring bandages
11:59.39Ellipsisbuying cloth for like 2.5g a stack
12:00.01thulI like thick clefthoof
12:00.05thuli sell stacks for like 120g0
12:00.07thul-0
12:00.20buuEllipsis: Heh, I might do that.
12:00.23Ellipsisanyway, on my server you can grab the robes for about 16-18g, and the shards are ~20-22
12:00.46buuHurm.
12:00.48buuI might give it a go.
12:00.54Ellipsisthough, in the process of doublechecking those prices, I just found some shards up for 15g buyout :D
12:01.18Ackiseh should I release my mod to sites like curse?
12:01.25sag_ich_nichtyou better add guild bank repairs while your at it
12:01.30Ellipsisyour mom
12:01.33sag_ich_nicht*youre
12:01.36sag_ich_nicht*you're even
12:01.36sag_ich_nichtdamn it
12:01.38Ellipsis:D
12:01.42sag_ich_nichtstupid e
12:01.46sag_ich_nichtit sometimes gets stuck
12:01.49Ellipsisyou could of spelled it worser, though
12:01.50Ellipsis;)
12:02.04sag_ich_nichtit wasn't even a spelling misstake, just a typo
12:02.10sag_ich_nichtthis keyboard is from 1992
12:02.11sag_ich_nicht:P
12:02.35Ackisthey had keyboards in 1992?
12:02.40Ackisdidn't you use punch cards?
12:02.42buuDunno, farming instances for shards sounds like more fun.
12:03.06Ellipsisit is, but it's not terribly easy without pathing bugs
12:03.07buuSH has what, 3 bosses?
12:03.13thuli want a new mouse and a new keyboard.
12:03.15buuEllipsis: Well, I didn't mean *solo*
12:03.15Ellipsisor do you mean group farming
12:03.24buuEllipsis: Just get some decent players and aoe the entire instance.
12:03.30buuHA HA
12:03.30Diaolol
12:03.31EllipsisI do everything solo
12:03.32sag_ich_nicht4, on heroic, 3 on normal, buu
12:03.33Ellipsis=[
12:03.40Diaohmm
12:03.44sag_ich_nichtEllipsis pics
12:03.47Ellipsislulz
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12:03.49Ellipsisyouw ish
12:03.54buubuubot: be glados =~ friends
12:03.54Diaoanyone know of a mod that autoenabled /combatlog when in certain zone (raid zone)
12:03.54buubotbuu: There was even going to be a party for you. A big party that all your friends were invited to. I invited your best friend the companion cube. Of course, he couldn't come because you murdered him. All your other friends couldn't come either because you don't have any other friends because of how unlikable you are. Unlikable, it says so here in your
12:04.07Diaoi'm really lazy and can't be bothered to remember to /combatlog everytime i start a raid for wws :(
12:04.16cncfanaticsuse an addon for it Diao ?
12:04.18Ellipsisbuu, have my babies
12:04.22Diaoyes cncfanatics
12:04.25Diaothat's what i'm asking
12:04.30Diaoanyone know if there's a mod that does it :p
12:04.30cncfanaticsalready exists
12:04.34cncfanaticsI used to use one
12:04.37cncfanaticsdig around :p
12:04.38sag_ich_nichtElephant.
12:04.48Diaolol
12:04.50Diaoah ok
12:05.04Diaowell i didn't know what category it'd be under :(
12:05.13Ellipsisif you use violation, it has a module that does the whole combat log range + enable logging when in a group/raid or zoned into an instance
12:05.48buuEllipsis: I'm busy.
12:05.52buuMurdering companion cubes.
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12:06.10sag_ich_nichtbtw.
12:06.20sag_ich_nicht1.4 feet of snow outside of my house
12:06.23sag_ich_nichtsince yesterday morning
12:06.37buusag_ich_nicht: What's snow?
12:06.40EllipsisI heart snow :(
12:06.47buuOh man, new auction scan is so awesome.
12:07.16sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: i has snow. you does not.
12:07.22Ellipsiswant! :(
12:07.23sag_ich_nichtmy snowz!
12:07.51Ellipsishow come every thing I fix makes new errors happen
12:07.55Ellipsis=[
12:09.05buusag_ich_nicht: Oh man, it almost looked like it was going to pretend to sort of rain today!
12:09.20Ellipsiso.O
12:09.31EllipsisI miss rain...
12:09.33buuAnd goddamn my hair is excessively long.
12:09.35sag_ich_nicht[13:07] <Ellipsis> how come every thing I fix makes new errors happen <--because you only touch yourself at night.
12:09.36buuEllipsis: Yeah, me too.
12:09.45sag_ich_nichtbuu i call BULLSHIT on that.
12:09.52sag_ich_nichti bet mine is longer
12:09.53Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: tonight, I'll touch you too <3
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12:09.58sag_ich_nichtEllipsis lies :(
12:10.07Ellipsisif you say so :(
12:10.24sag_ich_nichtyou are on the other side of the hemisphere, how would you do that :(
12:10.51Ellipsisguess you'll never find out now!
12:11.02sag_ich_nichti call BULLSHIT
12:11.06sag_ich_nichtprove me wrong then
12:11.15sag_ich_nichti mean, nobody likes being called a liar
12:11.18sag_ich_nicht:P
12:11.25thulLIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIAR
12:11.28thulor was it fire?
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12:11.56Altaraxhi there^^
12:11.58Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: why would I want to do nice things for someone who just calls me a liar and abuses me all the time? :)
12:12.06Orionshockwhats the best way to nil a frame script?
12:12.30Orionshockframe:SetScript("OnEvent", function end)
12:12.31nevcairielSetScript("OnFoo", nil)?
12:12.37Orionshocknil
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12:13.19buusag_ich_nicht: Heh, how long is yours?
12:13.22buuCOCK FIGHT, GO.
12:13.23cncfanaticsSetScript nil, how will that react with the Hooked scripts nevcairiel ?
12:13.25buuUm.
12:13.28Ellipsis...
12:13.32buuI just bought a riding crop for 89 silver.
12:13.38sag_ich_nichtbuu: uh, goes beyond my chest
12:13.47buusag_ich_nicht: Wuss.
12:13.52Ellipsislong hair is long.
12:13.52sag_ich_nicht[13:11] <Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht: why would I want to do nice things for someone who just calls me a liar and abuses me all the time? :) <--i dunno. i <3 u? :(
12:13.54nevcairielcncfanatics: doesnt matter if nil or some other functions, will probably break hooks anyway :P
12:14.14cncfanaticsdepends on how blizz did their HookScript function tbh :p
12:14.15sag_ich_nicht[13:13] <buu> sag_ich_nicht: Wuss. <--well how long is yours
12:14.34sag_ich_nichtit's nearly at the end of my back anyway :/
12:14.50sag_ich_nichtfew more months and it will touch my butt, which is NOT good. :/
12:15.09Ellipsiscncfanatics: just assume that you can't unhook without breaking things
12:15.16Ellipsisit's almost always true
12:15.21Orionshockreason i ask is because i want kill the SubZoneTextFrame & the ZoneTextFrame
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12:15.24buusag_ich_nicht: Mine is actually slightly shorter than that =/
12:15.40buusag_ich_nicht: It's like 6-9 inches from my waist I think.
12:15.47Orionshockniling the onEvent Script does it rather nicely than hooking the functions directly
12:15.51buuAnd this conversation definitely needs a very out of context bash quote.
12:16.10CIA-403cwdg * r55144 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: fix zhCN lcoal
12:16.18EllipsisOrionshock: if you just want to make them go away from the user's perspective, hook OnShow to call Hide()
12:16.41buuSo anyway
12:16.47Orionshockeasier to nil the OnEvent
12:16.47buuAbout that riding crop for 89 silver.
12:16.48buuGood price?
12:17.06sag_ich_nichtEllipsis you didn't answer my question
12:17.16Ellipsiswhat was your question
12:17.19Orionshockthat and the code looks as if that's not going to work...
12:17.20Altaraxsorry guys... can I ask you all 1 thing???
12:17.26Ellipsis~asktoask
12:17.27purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
12:17.32CIA-403funkydude * r55145 10/branches/BasicBuffs/BasicBuffs.lua: BasicBuffs: change width and height of frame to match the max buffs/debuffs width
12:17.56Altaraxasked just to don't mess up  =P
12:18.05thulhmm, the pitbull energy-thing didn't tick when you have full energy by default.
12:18.11sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: scroll up to hh:13
12:18.24Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: you asked if you <3 me?
12:18.27Ellipsishow am I supposed to know :P
12:18.33buuEllipsis: Just say no. It's safer.
12:18.38Gngsk~framexml
12:18.39purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com
12:19.13Altaraxwell... I'm searching a mod that I installed sometime ago that shows in tooltip how many of mouseovered things I have in bags and/or bank... but I can't remember its name... any idea???
12:19.37Ellipsisthere are several that do that - you might try sanity or posessions
12:20.25sag_ich_nichtEllipsis no
12:20.30Ellipsisno u
12:20.33AltaraxI've never installed them =P thats why I'm going crazy @_@
12:20.35sag_ich_nichtthere was a "because" in there
12:20.42sag_ich_nichtlern2interpret
12:20.52Ellipsisthere wasn't a "because"
12:20.54Ellipsisl2read
12:21.40sag_ich_nichtuh
12:21.45sag_ich_nichtthink of the same sentence
12:21.47sag_ich_nichtIRL
12:22.14sag_ich_nichtwith a specific emphasis on the question
12:22.20sag_ich_nichtthere totally was a because there
12:22.22Ellipsisif you said "I less than three you" IRL I'd probably run and hide
12:22.22sag_ich_nicht:P
12:22.31Ellipsiswell...that or make sexytime
12:23.13sag_ich_nicht:P
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12:23.30thulSEXYTIME
12:23.39buuWell that was easy.
12:24.25Altaraxsorry another time... do you know any other popular addon that gives that option?
12:25.13Ellipsisnot off the top of my head
12:25.25Ellipsisand if you used something a long time ago that did that, chances are it's dead by now
12:26.23Ellipsishow sweet
12:26.32Altaraxmaybe but I guess that I've updated it till the 2.2.x
12:26.35Ellipsisonly *checks date* a week and a half late for my bday?
12:26.39Ellipsis:P
12:26.49sag_ich_nichtwhat
12:26.56sag_ich_nichti think i said happy birthday
12:27.07sag_ich_nichtyou are way too materialistic :P
12:27.25EllipsisLOL
12:27.32Ellipsisif you only knew :P
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12:28.13sag_ich_nichtknew what
12:28.42Orionshock-.-
12:28.56Orionshockvhaarr: need some help with sink lib if you would
12:29.07Orionshockneed to create 2 outputs for 1 addon
12:29.59Kuja^Altarax: tradeskillinfo maybe?
12:30.32Kuja^i dunno if Characterinfostorage does that on its own
12:30.34Altaraxmmm...
12:30.37Altaraxno
12:30.48Altaraxcharacterinfostorage don't
12:31.02AltaraxI've updated it
12:31.05Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: lolwut
12:31.13Altarax=p
12:31.24Altaraxsorry for my rusty english... /blush
12:31.56Altaraxgonna try sanity2
12:32.27sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: well, i hear they taste good when warm and sticky (also scroll up to hh:28 :P)
12:32.43Altaraxbtw... I'm having an error with ItemDB such as "Invalid money format(or value... don't remember)"
12:33.39Altaraxand then the addon doesn't work
12:34.57Ellipsisdid you try updating it?
12:35.11Altaraxjust yesterday
12:35.14Altarax^^
12:35.45Ellipsiswell then I suggest you get the exact error message and report the problem to the author
12:38.43Altaraxlol... tnx a lot... trying sanity and seems to be what I was searching for and more else!!! =P
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12:43.15Altaraxlast thing... Sanity2 is only cross-character or has a centralized item storage DB for cross-account???
12:43.29Ellipsisit's not possible to share data between accounts
12:43.32Ellipsisonly characters on the same account
12:43.37Altaraxok ^^
12:44.17sag_ich_nichtinteresting
12:44.26Ellipsiswhat's this onw
12:44.30Ellipsisanother realm restart?
12:44.37Ellipsisare they doing these nightly now or something?
12:44.49sag_ich_nichtprobably a hotfix, Ellipsis
12:45.54EllipsisI know
12:46.02Ellipsisbut you'd think they could find these things before patch goes live
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12:47.39StanzillaEllipsis: EU realms were down, too
12:48.57CIA-403nebelmond * r55146 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.toc:
12:48.57CIA-4OptiTaunt:
12:48.57CIA-4- TOC update for 2.3
12:49.17sag_ich_nichtfinally
12:49.24sag_ich_nichti have recieved my shoes back
12:49.55sag_ich_nichtno more loose soles!
12:50.04CIA-403nebelmond * r55147 10PVPtimer/PVPtimer.toc:
12:50.04CIA-4PVPtimer:
12:50.04CIA-4- TCO update for 2.3
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12:51.15CIA-403nebelmond * r55148 10Rawrkitty/Rawrkitty.toc:
12:51.15CIA-4Rawrkitty:
12:51.15CIA-4- TOC update for 2.3
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12:57.45Julithis there a list of things I can do during combat with a secure template anywhere?
12:58.18CIA-403Firik * r55149 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
12:58.18CIA-4Babble-2.2:
12:58.18CIA-4- added "Creeping Paralysis" and "Grievous Throw"
12:58.27sag_ich_nichtmeh
12:58.33sag_ich_nichti'll go play super mario galaxy now
12:58.38sag_ich_nichtyou are no fun today Ellipsis :(
12:58.54dodgahow do I enable taint logging again? /console taingLog 1?
12:59.00Ellipsissorry, I can't code and be entertaining at the same time
12:59.11Ellipsisunless you have a vent/ts server for me to hang out on
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13:01.52Ackisohh an Ace vent... that'd be pro
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13:04.11CIA-403damjau * r55150 10Spyglass/core.lua:
13:04.12CIA-4Spyglass:
13:04.12CIA-4- update koKR locals
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13:07.49CIA-403funkydude 07Ace3 * r55152 10BasicComboPoints/: BasicComboPoints: create dir
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13:14.38OrionshockZOMG
13:14.41Orionshockckknight!
13:14.50Hjaltecncfanatics: Can i hide tooltips on buttons in combat with flexbar2?
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13:15.45cncfanaticsyou can just hide them
13:15.49cncfanaticsbut u can't hide them only in combat
13:16.12cncfanaticsjust disable em completely Hjalte ?
13:16.21Hjaltecncfanatics: Yeah, how do I do that then?
13:16.36cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
13:16.38Hjaltecncfanatics: Would be nice with the other option too, though :)
13:16.56cncfanaticsthat'll be supported on its own when I add the ability to run stuff when entering/leaving combat
13:17.03cncfanaticsno need to write explicit support for it :)
13:20.58Chompersholy crap
13:21.00Chompersit's ckknight
13:23.36CIA-403aldmehr * r55155 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: v0.792 Spell reflection bug fix.
13:28.17CIA-403elkano * r55156 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc):
13:28.17CIA-4ElkBuffBars
13:28.17CIA-4- reverted last commit
13:28.17CIA-4- don't add stuff on your own without asking
13:28.17CIA-4- I don't want localizations currently
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13:36.00StanzillaFunkeh`: now I know what you meant yesterday^^
13:36.24Funkeh`?
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13:36.58StanzillaFunkeh`: about editing elkano's addons^^
13:37.10Funkeh`?
13:37.28Stanzilla-.-
13:37.34Stanzilla*points at last commit*
13:38.38Funkeh`oh
13:38.41Funkeh`heh
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13:47.10CIA-403elkano * r55157 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua:
13:47.10CIA-4ElkBuffBars
13:47.10CIA-4- MiniMapTracking button should now show again when toggling the option
13:48.26Birdemaniace3? guess ive been out of it a while. Thought most were going the ROCK way of doign things
13:49.18kebinusanit goes something like ckknight developed rock for his addons, others are working on rewriting ace to ace3 which isnt release ready yet I guess
13:49.44kebinusaninsert an appropriate measure of drama
13:50.03Birdemaniyea, figured there was drama, dont care about it
13:50.10Birdemanijust wondering about the frameworks
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13:56.12CIA-403funkydude 07Ace3 * r55158 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints/ (BasicComboPoints.lua BasicComboPoints.toc Libs/ embeds.xml):
13:56.13CIA-4BasicComboPoints:
13:56.13CIA-4- v2.0
13:56.13CIA-4- No longer relies on unit frame addons
13:56.13CIA-4- completely independently movable and lockable
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14:06.18Speeddymoni dont know why i am asking this because i should know the answer, but is there a difference between using tablename = nil and for k,v in pairs(tablename) do k = nil end   ?
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14:06.26Speeddymonto clear a table
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14:17.17cladhaireSpeeddymon: the first doesn't clear the table
14:17.22cladhaireits clears the binding between the variable and a table
14:17.26cladhairethe second actually clears the table.
14:18.03cladhairelua> local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a), a = nil, print(#b)
14:18.03lua_botcladhaire: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a), a = nil, print(#b)"]:1: unexpected symbol near ','
14:18.09cladhairelua> local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a); a = nil; print(#b)
14:18.09lua_botcladhaire: 3, 3
14:18.20cladhairelua> local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a); for k,v in pairs(a) do a[k] = nil end ; print(#b)
14:18.20lua_botcladhaire: 3, 0
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14:21.34Speeddymonlua> local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a); a = nil; print(#a); print(#b)
14:21.35lua_botSpeeddymon: 3, [string "local a = {1,2,3}; local b = a; print(#a); ..."]:1: attempt to get length of local 'a' (a nil value)
14:21.54cladhaireyou seem to have a misconception between what values and variables are
14:22.06Speeddymonheh nah i was just testing
14:22.10cladhairea = something just sets a binding between the scoped variable "a" and the value store in something
14:22.19cladhaireso a = nil does nothing more than remove that binding
14:22.35Corganlua> print('oh hi')
14:22.35lua_botCorgan: oh hi
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14:25.10kebinusanI find it somewhat odd that I get lower cpu and memory usage running utorrent under wine than any native linux torrent client Ive tried by a very significant factor
14:25.42CIA-403dfscott * r55159 10AzuarcLevelGuide/AzuarcLevelGuide.lua:
14:25.42CIA-4AzuarcLevelGuide:
14:25.42CIA-4- Add act selection from Fubar
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14:26.28Speeddymonlua> local a = {1,2,3} for k in pairs do print(k) end
14:26.28lua_botSpeeddymon: [string "local a = {1,2,3} for k in pairs do print(k..."]:1: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)
14:26.39cladhairekebinusan: i've enjoyed aria2c
14:26.40Speeddymonlua> local a = {1,2,3} for k in pairs do print(a[k]) end
14:26.40lua_botSpeeddymon: [string "local a = {1,2,3} for k in pairs do print(a..."]:1: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (table expected, got nil)
14:26.57cladhaireSpeeddymon: i suggest if you want to play with the bot, you take it to #luabot
14:27.00cladhaireso you don't spam the channel
14:27.01kebinusanhavent tried that one I'll toss it on my list and give it a shot
14:27.03Speeddymonah didnt know bout that one
14:27.04cladhairebut feel free to spam as much as you want in there.
14:27.12cladhairekebinusan: its commandline, and works damn well from what i've seen
14:27.21cladhairecan also be used as a multi-threaded downloader for files.
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14:27.44kebinusantransmission, ktorrent, qbittorrent, azureus, deluge all seem to like to hog at least 30% of my cpu
14:27.59kebinusanyeah I should try a couple cli ones
14:28.02kebinusanI dont really need a gui
14:28.18kebinusaneverything seems to be written in python which doesnt appear to be too cpu friendly
14:28.48kebinusanI'll check it out tho
14:29.18dezzitry utorrent kebinusan
14:29.44kebinusanyeah Im running utorrent under wine.. it just feels somewhat dirty
14:29.51CIA-403helium * r55160 10Fence/ (Fence.toc modules/Fence_AutoFill.lua):
14:29.51CIA-4Fence:
14:29.51CIA-4- bump toc to 20300
14:29.51CIA-4- change the autofill duration to 12, 24, 48
14:29.55dezzioh for linux
14:29.56dezziI see
14:30.10dezziI used a python torrent client for awhile
14:30.13dezziit has a CLI
14:30.22CIA-403helium * r55161 10FuBar_ArenaFu/FuBar_ArenaFu.toc: FuBar_ArenaFu - bump toc to 20300
14:30.24dezziI forget what it was called though
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14:30.53CIA-403helium * r55162 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc: FuBar_EmoteFu2: bump toc to 20300
14:31.13dezziI love peon vocabulary lol
14:32.13dezziMage: Can you heal for my quest?
14:32.18dezziMe not that kind of priest.
14:32.29dezziok then you can dps for it
14:32.33dezziMe busy, leave me alone
14:32.50CIA-403helium * r55163 10FuBar_GarbageFu/FuBar_GarbageFu.toc: FuBar_GarbageFu: bump toc to 20300
14:33.28CIA-403helium * r55164 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc:
14:33.28CIA-4FuBar_GuildFu
14:33.28CIA-4bump toc to 20300
14:34.19CIA-403helium * r55165 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/PTReagentFuLocals-zhTW.lua:
14:34.19CIA-4FuBar_PTReagentFu:
14:34.19CIA-4update zhTW localization
14:35.25KocoroMy cooldowntimers appear to have reset themselves, and now aren't noticing anything I do, is this normal?
14:35.38Kocoro(Cooldown Timers 2)
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14:39.47dezzikebinusan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTornado thats what I used
14:40.05dezzihas a full featureset inclunding bandwidth limiting
14:43.48CIA-403xinhuan * r55167 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Update the tooltip so that it lists all items in a multiple attachment mail. Also fixed it so that it now properly shows the shift/ctrl-click message properly on all mail instead of just mail with items in it.
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15:17.17Birdemanidid gello quit the game/modding thing?
15:17.37tuni_hi, can anyone tell me the /-command for the "addon preferences". i dont have a button at the minimap
15:18.18Ellipsistuni_: /rock
15:18.52tuni_thank you!
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15:27.00harl|WoWiguhm. stupid question: how do i leave stealth mode with 2.3 other than attacking or stancing?
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15:27.24CIA-403xinhuan * r55168 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua:
15:27.24CIA-4Postal: - Throttle Blizzard's code so that InboxFrameItem_OnEnter() doesn't get
15:27.24CIA-4called every frame in an OnUpdate, where it calls GameTooltip:SetInboxItem()
15:27.24CIA-4every frame, which calls the 1000 addons that hook it like RatingBuster and
15:27.24CIA-4EnhTooltip.
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15:32.21CIA-403arkayenro * r55169 10ArkInventory/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
15:32.21CIA-4ArkInventory:
15:32.21CIA-4- 2.12b
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15:35.39GnarfozXinhuan: much <3 for patching up postal so nicely. =)
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15:36.32Xinhuandoes it work? :)
15:38.50GnarfozXinhuan: it did, even before, but it works better now ^^
15:39.18GnarfozI'll have to try again, you commited a lot of stuff while I was raiding yesterday, and some more today while I was still sleeping etc. ;D
15:39.20Xinhuantell me if you think something is still broken or needs updating
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15:39.46Gnarfozmany of the things you improved, I'd never have noticed :D
15:40.04Gnarfozah
15:40.10Gnarfozif you attach multiple items
15:40.24Gnarfozdoes it still auto-fill the subject with the name of the first item (and amount)
15:40.30Xinhuanthat part is a bit trickier to fix
15:40.34Gnarfozcould probably just say "multiple items"
15:40.49Xinhuanthe default UI does that now
15:40.55Xinhuannot a postal thing
15:40.55Gnarfozoh? damn.
15:41.01GnarfozI would never have known ^^
15:41.39Wobin_oh it makes life so much easier
15:41.41XinhuanPostal doesn't even touch the subject line in any way, other than when you Forward a mail
15:41.49Wobin_since it packages everything up in one slot
15:41.51Xinhuanit attaches a "FW: " prefix
15:41.59Wobin_(the default ui)
15:42.18Ellipsishmm
15:42.20Xinhuanspeaking of which, mail forwarding is too difficult to implement in multiattachment mail lol!
15:42.35EllipsisI need an addon to undo Blizz's right click trade/mail thing >_>
15:42.59Xinhuanlol good luck with that one
15:43.08StanzillaEllipsis: get used to it :p
15:43.14Xinhuanits not any different from rightclick to move items to/from bank
15:43.19Ellipsisit's so stupid though
15:43.27Xinhuanwhy is it stupid?
15:43.30Ellipsisif someone opens a trade with me for a healthstone
15:43.33Ellipsisand we're in combat
15:43.40Ellipsisand I want to, say, drink a potion
15:43.41EllipsisI can't
15:43.44Ellipsisbecause they have a trade open
15:43.46Ellipsiswtf?
15:43.53Gnarfozautobar <3
15:43.54Xinhuanyou hit the healthstone or potion on your action bar
15:43.58nevcairieluse an addon to block trades in combat
15:43.58nevcairiel:P
15:44.00StanzillaI don't trade in combat :o
15:44.08Xinhuanwhy would you open your bags to eat that healthstone
15:44.16EllipsisI use my bags for all consumables
15:44.34EllipsisI keep my potions bag open in combta
15:44.35Ellipsiscombat*
15:44.36Xinhuanthey shouldn't be opening a trade with you in combat ;p
15:44.46Ellipsiser, it happens quite often
15:45.07Ellipsistank - "I need another HS" me - "ritual is on cooldown, let me make you one" huntard - "lol I pull k"
15:45.07Xinhuanits a habit they have to stop then
15:45.30Xinhuananyway, it can't be fixed
15:45.34Xinhuanbecause the code is all secure
15:45.34EllipsisI figured
15:45.35nevcairielso you need to drink a potion in the moment of the pull`?
15:45.36nevcairiel:P
15:45.44Xinhuansince its an action button click
15:45.50Ellipsisnevcairiel: if I'm low on mana/health and just put in combat? yeah
15:46.09nevcairielyou're a lock, get healed or lifetap
15:46.10nevcairielimho
15:46.19Xinhuanif you did that, you would likely die immediately for pulling healing aggro on that pot
15:46.20Ellipsisthere are plenty of times I trade stones during combat, and I don't mind that - I just wish I could still function while doing so
15:46.49Xinhuannever pot/buff on a pull
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15:47.11StanzillahyperChipmunk: teen drinking is very bad :p
15:47.20EllipsishyperChipmunk: I can has PM? I has error + fix for BM2I
15:47.35hyperChipmunkby all means
15:47.40RaydenUnicso
15:47.44RaydenUnici have interesting news
15:47.59RaydenUnici went to Future Play the last two days
15:48.05RaydenUnicit's an academic conference on games and learning
15:48.19RaydenUnicWoW was the most talked about game for a variety of reasons
15:48.24fridgidok i'm playing with these stupid secure frame shits and i'm running into tainting issues, you can't anchor a insecure window to a secure window without taint, no?
15:48.44RaydenUnica couple of the keynote speakers made little confessions about how much they played wow: three lvl 70's, played the AH for 1000g/mo
15:48.45fridgidcan you create a dummy secure frame to 'wrap' the unsecure frame?
15:48.59KocoroSo you can't trade in combat now?
15:49.05Xinhuanrofl Postal included AbacusLib just to use it in ONE line in the code.
15:49.11Xinhuanabacus:FormatMoneyExtended(endmoney - startmoney)
15:49.12RaydenUnicand these are pretty well known academics/researchers
15:49.18Xinhuanwhat a waste of memory
15:50.11Gnarfozwasted, if your only mod using abacus is indeed Postal
15:50.16Gnarfozbut still, what the fuck :p
15:50.33Xinhuanpretty sure the default UI has a function that does exactly what :FormatMoneyExtended() does
15:50.34Wobin_actually
15:51.01Wobin_Unfortunately the excuse that some other mod may use Abacus is no excuse whatsoever =P
15:51.32Xinhuantime to remove abacus from postal
15:51.38GnarfozWobin_: see my second line ^^
15:52.08sag_ich_nicht[13:59] <Ellipsis> unless you have a vent/ts server for me to hang out on <--i do, but you wouldn't like it.
15:52.22Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: why?
15:52.33sag_ich_nichtbecause i say so
15:52.35Ellipsis=[
15:52.36Lukianit's probably in german :p
15:52.39sag_ich_nichtno
15:52.47Stanzillabecause of his austrian dialect
15:52.51sag_ich_nichtnope
15:52.56Stanzillaoh yes :p
15:53.00sag_ich_nichtit would mean i have reveal a different online identify to you
15:53.00Ellipsispfft, sag_ich_nicht knows I don't mind foreign vent servers :P
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15:53.13sag_ich_nicht*have to
15:53.15koymorning
15:53.17sag_ich_nichtand i don't want that 8D
15:53.26Stanzillasag_ich_nicht: I love your dialect btw <3
15:53.29Xinhuanbe back in 15 min, afk
15:53.39Gnarfozthat's too much praise for sag_ich_nicht
15:53.44koyhey guys, does anyone here is using assessment?
15:53.48GnarfozI fucking HATE austrian german speakers :p
15:53.55sag_ich_nichtkekeke
15:53.56sag_ich_nichtkill yourself
15:54.02Gnarfozno, rather kill all of them :D
15:54.09nevcairielits easier to kill you, noone likes you anyway
15:54.17sag_ich_nichto rly
15:54.21koyno one?
15:54.29StanzillaGnarfoz: naah it's so funny :p
15:54.35nevcairielafter we're done, noone
15:54.46sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel want me to punch you with my taint.log?
15:54.46sag_ich_nicht:(
15:55.17GnarfozStanzilla: it's horrible to understand :< try staffing the phone order or support hotline and have austrian guys call ;D I need more time to figure out what they want then to actually help them out :D
15:55.29Stanzillahehe
15:56.00sag_ich_nichtGnarfoz just because you spoke to some retards that are too dumb to speak normal german AND dialect...
15:56.12Stanzillawell depending on the region in germany you're from, you got problems to understand them, too
15:56.15Gnarfozsag_ich_nicht: generalizations are ftw :p
15:57.50Gnarfozthere are worse cases, of course (like immigrants from a wide range of countries, hey, we're multi-national and all ^^), but those are not people who proudly claim to speak perfectly understandable german ^^
15:58.09Gnarfozalas, it's the weekend now, and I don't have to bother. <3 sag_ich_nicht ^^
15:58.17StanzillaI do speak perfectly understandable german
15:58.45nevcairielso do i
15:58.59sag_ich_nichtlies
15:59.09Stanzillanevcairiel: proof!
15:59.09sag_ich_nichthttp://www.cosmosui.org/showthread.php?p=65335#post65335
15:59.19nevcairielStanzilla: i dont have to
15:59.21Gnarfozyour mere presence here kind of implies a certain level of non-dumbness, anyway, so you're all home free I guess ;>
15:59.40sag_ich_nichtckknight feel stabbed
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15:59.58Stanzillasag_ich_nicht: wtf is eXtremeUnitButtons
16:00.10sag_ich_nichta very useful addon.
16:00.18nevcairielwhich taints your ass away
16:00.21sag_ich_nichti know.
16:00.49sag_ich_nichthttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6794-eXtremeUnitButtons.html
16:01.46sag_ich_nichti use it for BoF/BoP/BoS
16:01.48sag_ich_nichtvery useful
16:01.56ag`why not just use a click-combo
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16:01.59sag_ich_nicht(and for dispelling on my focus target because decursive is being a bitch)
16:02.00ag`like shift+rightmouse
16:02.02ag`:P
16:02.03GnarfozI use grid for that :D
16:02.11sag_ich_nichtbecause i don't want that, ag`?
16:02.32sag_ich_nichti want a button that is next to the unit frame of a partymember that i click which casts a spell on them
16:02.33sag_ich_nichtXUB does that.
16:02.34Gnarfozsuit yourself. what's that log supposed to tell us anyway? :D
16:02.38CIA-403sayclub * r55170 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
16:02.38CIA-4Babble-2.2:
16:02.38CIA-4- update koKR localization
16:02.45Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: don't be picky, devs don't like that. you have to do things the way they say you should :P
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16:02.56sag_ich_nichtdevs can go DIAF
16:03.03BirdemaniSomeone care to help me with another taintlog? I updated my itemrack and removed PlayerMenu and I'm still getting this
16:03.04Birdemanihttp://wowace.pastey.net/77484
16:03.30Ellipsisyour interface should be designed around what devs think you need, not what you want!
16:03.55sag_ich_nichtsee 5 lines above
16:04.01sag_ich_nichtdevs can go DIAF
16:04.04sag_ich_nichteither fix or die!
16:04.13Ellipsisno u
16:04.27Ellipsis=[
16:04.36StanzillaLOL
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16:04.42ag`sag_ich_nicht, if you like taint I suggest you keep using that addon
16:04.50StanzillaDurabilityFu = fail of the century
16:04.57sag_ich_nichtag` how about NO, i just get the author to fix it instead?
16:04.57EllipsisI've spent the last like, 4 hours tracking down and fixing issues in various addons
16:05.08EllipsisI deserve a 5 minute IRC break
16:05.13Birdemanidurfu is working for me, performancefu seems to cause lag and crashes for me however
16:05.18sag_ich_nichtnot complaining Ellipsis :P
16:05.25sag_ich_nichtperformancefu has always caused lag
16:05.27StanzillaBirdemani: don't look at the code :p
16:05.36Birdemanihttp://wowace.pastey.net/77484 <<more taint if you want to help me!
16:05.36Ellipsisperformancefu lags a lot
16:05.37sag_ich_nichti blame ckknight's sadism for it
16:05.42Ellipsisespecially if you don't disable "show addon usage"
16:05.49Ellipsisit's kinda ironic
16:06.07Birdemaniya, I was suprised at how much lag it caused. any good fubar mod that shows fps,ping besides it?
16:06.31sag_ich_nichti wouldn't know one, i just use the FPS and latency bars that NECB gives me
16:06.35Ellipsisthere's miniperfsfu
16:06.46Ellipsisnot sure how much better that is
16:06.54StanzillaI use CML
16:07.01nevcairieli think miniperf only shows fps etc
16:07.05nevcairielno detailed stuff
16:07.20Ellipsismeh, fubar_usage for the detailed stuff imo
16:07.31sag_ich_nichtLOL@commit r55168
16:07.42sag_ich_nichtXinhuan you sure you're not tainting something with that? :P
16:08.00sag_ich_nichti mean, some horde might attack me at the mailbox!
16:08.21nevcairieltainting is only bad if secure stuff needs to be executed there
16:08.27nevcairielmailbox shouldnt be secure stuff
16:08.28sag_ich_nichti know, nevcairiel
16:08.38sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: your sarcasm detector is broken
16:08.46nevcairielyour sarcasm sucks
16:08.56sag_ich_nicht:P
16:08.58sag_ich_nichtemoticon
16:09.00sag_ich_nicht!
16:09.05sag_ich_nichtexclamation mark
16:09.14sag_ich_nichttoo subtile for you huh?
16:09.15[Ammo]nevcairiel: don't feed the tuplad renamed to sag_ich_nicht
16:09.22[Ammo]~tuplad
16:09.23purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
16:09.26nevcairieli feed him poison
16:09.31EllipsisI feed him cheese
16:09.33sag_ich_nichtthat only makes me stronger
16:10.04sag_ich_nichthi [Ammo]
16:10.06ag`you're an inspiration for birth control
16:10.15sag_ich_nichtag` good
16:10.18sag_ich_nichttoo many people on this planet anyway
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16:10.48ag`I'm just throwing around some Duke Nukem quotes
16:13.06sag_ich_nichtat least MoonWolf got it
16:13.25Ellipsisoh, now I know who sag_ich_nicht is!
16:13.26sag_ich_nicht[17:09] <Ellipsis> I feed him cheese <--that better be Mozzarella di Bufala Campana
16:13.51sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: o rly
16:13.54Ellipsishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno
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16:16.29Xinhuan[11/18 00:04:56] <Ellipsis> I've spent the last like, 4 hours tracking down and fixing issues in various addons
16:16.33Xinhuanwhat did you find broken?
16:17.16EllipsisI went through my taint log
16:17.46Ellipsismostly just a handful of globals that people forgot to make local :P
16:18.06Ellipsisstill working on a couple of more interesting taint issues
16:18.33XinhuanTOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIME = 0.9
16:18.36Xinhuanand TOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIME = 0.2
16:18.41Xinhuanexists in 2 files in the default UI lol
16:19.02Xinhuanso you fixed some stuff did you tell the authors?
16:19.20Ellipsiswell duh, why would they only declare their constants in one place? imagine what would happen if that line got lost! this way, there's always a backup
16:19.20Xinhuanor do you fix them on your end every update
16:19.47EllipsisXinhuan: whenever I find issues in an addon or lib that is actually being maintained, I bug the author about it
16:20.11Ellipsisthe only time I modify my local copy is if it's outdated or the author is MIA
16:20.12sag_ich_nicht[17:13] <Ellipsis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno <--we, i DO have balls of steel, but no, i'm not the duke
16:20.37Ellipsisor sometimes if the author doesn't want to make the change (usually because it doesn't really matter, but I'm a perfectionist :P)
16:21.07sag_ich_nicht[17:20] <Ellipsis> or sometimes if the author doesn't want to make the change (usually because it doesn't really matter, but I'm a perfectionist :P) <--damn it
16:21.16sag_ich_nichtname all addons that have this problem immediatly
16:21.25Ellipsiswhat problem?
16:21.29sag_ich_nicht*[listen]  immediately
16:21.31sag_ich_nichterm
16:21.32sag_ich_nichtdamnit
16:21.38sag_ich_nicht*immediately
16:21.38sag_ich_nicht>.>
16:21.44Xinhuanyep i found it "GetDenominationsFromCopper()" is the Blizzard function that does an identical job to "abacus:FormatMoneyExtended()"
16:22.01Ellipsishonestly, the most common example of that in my interface dir is addons that include their own media files
16:22.06Xinhuanother than the fact that abacuslib has a option to color the return text as well
16:22.14Ellipsisthings like XRS that have a whole bunch of bar textures in them that I don't even want
16:22.22sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: that the author doesn't want to change it
16:22.25sag_ich_nicht(which is retarded)
16:22.28Ellipsiseh
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16:22.46EllipsisI haven't hunted down authors for including media files
16:22.52Ellipsisbecause it *doesn't* really matter
16:22.56EllipsisI just delete the files on my end
16:24.08sag_ich_nichtEllipsis reads FrameXML.log religiously
16:24.14Ellipsis....how did you know?
16:24.22EllipsisI'm crazy though
16:24.27sag_ich_nichtso am i
16:24.30EllipsisI read all addon code in my UI
16:24.34EllipsisI read my FrameXML.log
16:24.39Ellipsisand now I read my taint.log :)
16:24.48sag_ich_nichtlawl
16:24.54sag_ich_nichtno
16:24.54sag_ich_nichtwait
16:24.58Ellipsislol
16:25.09sag_ich_nicht11/17 08:23:29.349  Couldn't find inherited node: VFLFontSmall
16:25.12Ellipsispoor Antiarc, getting abused just because of past mistakes
16:25.20sag_ich_nichtIT'S STILL THERE
16:25.25sag_ich_nicht:/
16:25.25EllipsisONLY IN YOUR MIND
16:25.27sag_ich_nichtNO
16:25.30Ellipsis:P
16:25.34sag_ich_nichtchrist
16:25.39sag_ich_nichtwant me to stream it?
16:25.40sag_ich_nichthuh?
16:25.41sag_ich_nichtHUH?
16:26.18Ellipsisscary sag_ich_nicht is scary :(
16:27.55Gnarfozand also crazy and annoying :D
16:28.21sag_ich_nichtonly annoying when bored or provoked
16:28.26sag_ich_nicht(currently i'm both)
16:29.11Gnarfozhmm I smell food. gotta check it out :D
16:29.25sag_ich_nichtwhatever
16:29.27Gnarfozactually, I'm smelling food. >_<
16:29.38sag_ich_nichti has pudding
16:30.04Gnarfozsadly, lolcat-pidgin ist not an excuse for not improving my english
16:30.09sag_ich_nicht...
16:30.12sag_ich_nichtkill yourself
16:30.24Gnarfozthat's not an excuse for that, either :p
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16:30.41koyhello guys
16:30.42sag_ich_nichtany use of lolcat(s) is a reasons to commit suicide
16:30.45sag_ich_nichtthieves
16:31.01koydoes anyone here is using assessment?
16:31.06Gnarfozsag_ich_nicht: you go first then, you just used it. >_<
16:31.22sag_ich_nicht...unless when used to flame it, duh
16:31.33Gnarfozno
16:31.37sag_ich_nichtno
16:31.40Gnarfoz"i has pudding" you idiot xD
16:31.41sag_ich_nichtMudkips agrees with me
16:31.45sag_ich_nichtGnarfoz
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16:31.54GnarfozI herad he likes mudkips :>
16:31.58Gnarfoz*heard -.-
16:32.02sag_ich_nichtgod
16:32.03sag_ich_nichtno
16:32.06sag_ich_nichtjust kill yourself
16:32.12sag_ich_nichtyou shout phrases without knowing them
16:32.23Gnarfozi don't shout, at all
16:32.39sag_ich_nichtand yet correct an intentional grammatical error that comes from the same internet sub culture
16:33.00sag_ich_nichtif you don't know where or how some phrase originated, stop using it.
16:33.04GnarfozIf I had intended to use it correctly
16:33.16GnarfozI would've written "HAY I HERD YOU LIEK MUDKIEPZ?!"
16:33.19durcyni liek you, gnarfoz, you've got moxy.
16:33.22Gnarfoz:D
16:33.42Gnarfozthanks, although I'll have to look up what that is :p
16:33.52sag_ich_nichtdoesn't mean you know where it's from or how it came to be. otherwise you wouldn't have corrected my pudding statement.
16:34.15Ellipsisclearly I must be very bored, because this conversation is actually somewhat amusing to me
16:34.16sag_ich_nichtgood luck finding out, Gnarfoz
16:34.53sag_ich_nichtthat doesn't change that i have chocolate pudding tho, Ellipsis.
16:35.17Ellipsiswant :(
16:35.22Mudkipssomeone called?
16:35.24sag_ich_nichtwell i have 3 more left
16:35.31thulhey ho
16:35.32sag_ich_nichtyou can have some if you go get them
16:35.32sag_ich_nicht:X
16:35.52sag_ich_nichtwe can both eat one and abuse the last one
16:36.41Ellipsissounds dirty
16:36.46sag_ich_nichtso?
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16:43.47KocoroIs there something that will shout on my screen what my arcane shot dispelled? :p
16:52.33CIA-403bigzero * r55171 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.lua:
16:52.33CIA-4GlowFoSho:
16:52.33CIA-4- will no longer error when opening dressing room without a weapon
16:53.40Pkekyo'Interface action failed because of an AddOn' <--- this error message is so fucking helpful I could cry
16:53.55Ellipsishence the taint log feature :P
16:53.56GnarfozPkekyo: check US UI forums
16:54.07Gnarfozit's stickied there
16:55.14Pkekyoit's still a bloody fucking useless error message
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16:56.12Ellipsiseh, I kinda wished it told you the name of the addon there
16:56.23Pkekyothat's a bare minimum
16:56.30Ellipsisthat's all that's needed for most people
16:56.32Pkekyoit's so bloody useless
16:56.38Ellipsisthey just need to know "ok, addon X is broken"
16:56.38sag_ich_nichti has pork
16:56.52Ellipsisand either get rid of it or update it
16:57.11Pkekyoyeah
16:57.26Ellipsisthe message is useless as it is, though, since people just go "wtf does that mean?" and they really shouldn't be getting into the taint log stuff
16:57.54Pkekyoit's just a bad idea
16:58.07Ellipsisimo, it makes me feel like Blizz hates me for using addons
16:58.11Pkekyowhat produces that message?
16:58.16Pkekyohehe indeed
16:58.25sag_ich_nichtEllipsis imho it exists to peer presure addon authors into fixing their stuff
16:58.26Ellipsisany actions that are blocked due to tainting
16:58.33[Horde]Tricksy[17:51] <Pkekyo> 'Interface action failed because of an AddOn' <--- this error message is so fucking helpful I could cry  <--- lol half the time I don't even know what action failed in the first place let alone what cause it to ^^
16:58.36Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: it would do a much better job of that if it named the addon
16:58.57Ellipsiswhen random user X who downloaded cool UI compilation Y gets that error, who are they gonna complain to?
16:58.57Pkekyo[Horde]Tricksy: yeah, I don't even know what triggered it for me either
16:59.07PkekyoEllipsis: blocked? tainting? wtf
16:59.09sag_ich_nichtslouken said something like that Ellipsis, i think it might be coming with 2.3.2
16:59.16Ellipsislet's hope so
16:59.19EllipsisPkekyo: exactly!
16:59.49Ellipsisif the message just said "addon X is broken, you lose" then people could do something helpful like complain to the addon author
16:59.58Ellipsisas it is, it confuses users
17:00.01PkekyoI feel dumber every time someone starts a technical discussion up in here
17:00.05PkekyoEllipsis: yeah, agreed
17:00.33Ellipsistheir only options are to ask someone who knows something about addons, or google (if they're intelligent) and then they get in over their heads trying to understand the taint log
17:01.14CIA-403xinhuan * r55172 10Postal/Modules/Rake.lua: Postal: - Replace the single AbacusLib call with our own small function.
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17:01.33Ellipsis^ I lol'ed
17:01.51Wobin_Has anyone heard anything about spell damage consuming hemo charges?
17:02.05Pkekyohemoroids?
17:02.16Wobin_can we get past the hemo jokes?
17:02.20Wobin_cause they're really old
17:02.54Pkekyoreally? I just started
17:03.33Wobin_well get with the program
17:03.36Wobin_it started ages ago
17:03.54Wobin_Last week called, it wants it's jokes back =P
17:04.57Pkekyolast week can SUCK MY DIC
17:05.01PkekyoDICK*
17:05.03Pkekyoeven
17:05.04Pkekyomeh
17:05.13EllipsisI'd be pretty impressed if it could, actually
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17:05.21Wobin_Your dick is a little short
17:05.22Wobin_it seems =P
17:05.34durcynmine's a week long, ladies.
17:05.49Ellipsisyes, but only a minute wide
17:05.52Ellipsis:x
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17:06.58Pkekyowhy does people think cursing has anything to do with anger? >.<
17:07.56Wobin_depends on your definition of cursing, I guess
17:08.01Wobin_~define curse
17:08.01purlUse ~dict for definitions.
17:08.05Wobin_~dict curse
17:08.18Ellipsis...useful
17:08.23Wobin_seems pretty angry to me
17:08.29Wobin_~dict 1 curse
17:09.21Fisker-http://i6.tinypic.com/6sb8nso.jpg <-if only i were a mage :(
17:09.26PkekyoWobin_: example of cursing: 'I'll have two big macs and some fuckin diddy donuts! WOOP WOOP!'
17:09.34PkekyoKEYLOGGER
17:09.56Wobin_yeah, that's pretty angry
17:10.03Wobin_You have some unresolved issues about them there donuts
17:10.13Wobin_Did a donut touch you in a bad place as a child?
17:10.37Mudkipsrazer released a new mouse 4000DPI
17:10.39Fisker-do want donuts touching me in bad places
17:10.41Mudkipswhat the F!@#
17:10.52Wobin_In case you need to do remote brain surgery?
17:10.53Mudkipswho can use sensitivity that high
17:11.38SmjI see you liketh the kips of the mud.
17:12.00PkekyoMudkipswhat the F!@# <--- aaaaaaw, self-censorship...cute
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17:12.38MudkipsI don't feel profane today
17:12.42Mudkipsat least not yet
17:13.36Wobin_profane is usually religiously related
17:13.37Smj2000 dpi worked fine for me anyways. I guess 4000 would be ok, but then you'd have to lower the sensitivity in the games you use.
17:13.52Wobin_so fuck, isn't really profane
17:14.07Mudkipsokay. give me another word!
17:14.12Wobin_vulgar?
17:14.17thulok, I'm giving up this keybinging change very soon :-P
17:14.24Mudkipsk vulgar
17:14.41durcynMudkips: Enjoyable?
17:14.58SmjWell, christianity isn't big on fucking. Unless you're a married catholic. Then it's fine. Aslong as you don't use condoms or birthcontrol.
17:15.31Wobin_well you know what they say about fucking
17:15.35Wobin_It could lead to worse things
17:15.37Wobin_like dancing
17:18.09Pkekyorofl
17:18.14Mudkipsya it really is a crime when it comes to white people
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17:20.13Pkekyotrue
17:20.16Pkekyoahahah
17:21.23SmjHey, don't diss my robot routine.
17:23.46Pkekyowhite people dancing shout be punishable by death tbh
17:23.51Pkekyoatleast in public
17:24.14sag_ich_nichtshut up
17:24.41Pkekyowhy?
17:24.57sag_ich_nichtbecause if you don't i'll start telling nigger jokes
17:25.00sag_ich_nichta lot of them.
17:25.05sag_ich_nichtracism isn
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17:25.10Mudkipshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqh9N-Mw5E
17:25.11sag_ich_nicht't funny, no matter against which race
17:25.13Mudkipsthis guy knows what's up
17:25.15sag_ich_nichtnow get out
17:25.19Mudkipsfat guys can dance too
17:25.26Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: and I would care about you telling nigger jokes because...?
17:26.03Pkekyo...?
17:26.26Pkekyo...?
17:26.52Pkekyol2logics? :)
17:27.52Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: what does the fact that white people can't dance have to do with racism?
17:28.19Mudkipsasians have small penors
17:28.22Mudkipsi r racist?
17:28.56Pkekyowhite people can't dance, asians have small 'penors' and black people have bigger lips.... <--- nothing racist about that at al
17:28.57Pkekyol
17:29.32sag_ich_nichtexcept two of these are physiological traits, dancing isn't.
17:29.45Mudkipslol
17:30.16MudkipsIndian people can't eat at my restaurant
17:30.18Pkekyoeven though dancing is not a physiological trait, white people still can't dance...
17:30.21sag_ich_nichtjust because the white people YOU know can't dance, doesn't mean white people in general can't dance
17:30.22Mudkipsi r racist?
17:30.37MudkipsI think sag_ich_nicht didn't get the memo
17:30.43sag_ich_nichtPkekyo: then how come my mother can dance tango so good?
17:30.52sag_ich_nichtMudkips: no, i'm bored and pretend falling for the troll
17:30.54thulluck.
17:31.09Mudkipsuhh
17:31.10Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: michael jackson is white now too...
17:31.13Mudkipsin before mom jokes
17:31.20Pkekyook, that one was ugly...sorry :)
17:31.23MudkipsLOL
17:31.30Mudkipsmichael jackson is a legend
17:31.35Mudkipshes just a weird weird man
17:31.44Pkekyomichael jackson is a nastyass motherfucker
17:31.49Mudkipswho bleaches his skin and gets his face butchered
17:32.06Mudkipsbut hes still the best pop artist ever
17:32.33Mudkipshes got more talent than vs any pop artists that came after him combined
17:32.44Pkekyothat's probably true
17:32.53Mudkipstoo bad he touches children
17:32.54Pkekyobut the bleeching and butchering kinda fucked up his gig
17:32.55Mudkipslol
17:32.57Pkekyohaha yeah
17:33.17PkekyoI know it haven't been proven, but I wouldn't let him babysit my kids...
17:33.42RogueShadow:/ He needs to be put into somebody's professional care.
17:34.03Mudkipshe needs to get his own private island
17:34.06Pkekyopreferably in six feet under's professional care...
17:34.10PkekyoRoses are red, Violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic.........and so am I
17:34.10Mudkipsand do this things there so people leave him alone
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17:34.24CIA-403xinhuan * r55174 10Postal/ (Postal.toc embeds.xml): Postal: - Remove all AbacusLib references.
17:34.32MudkipsI see what you
17:34.38Pkekyodid thar?
17:37.13Pkekyo0. gg Blizard now the warrior sux!!  |  16/11/2007 21:59:11 CET
17:37.13Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
17:37.13PkekyoThis patch is crazy! Now the warrior is the wrost clas of the game!
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17:37.30Ellipsisgeez Xinhuan, you've really got it in for Abacus today :P
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17:37.43Pkekyoalot of warriors have been having l2p-related issues since patch 2.3
17:38.08CIA-403xinhuan * r55175 10Postal/Modules/Wire.lua: Postal: - Small fix.
17:38.10Pkekyowhat's with abacuslib?
17:38.17Xinhuannothing's wrong with it
17:38.23Xinhuanbut its not needed
17:38.52Xinhuanhence removing it
17:39.06Pkekyoah
17:40.28Xinhuanapparantly TortoiseSVN can't read the svn:externals on the Postal folder (it is coming up as blank for me)
17:41.37PkekyoI love that you can control Opera without using a keyboard, and not even move it from the centre of the monitor :)
17:42.14Xinhuancan anyone see the properties?
17:43.29EllipsisXinhuan: fisheye shows no externals too o.O
17:43.47Xinhuanhow does the wowace zipscript know to zip up the correct externals then...?
17:43.48Ellipsisoh...
17:43.54Ellipsisthe externals are set on the libs folder
17:44.02Xinhuano_O
17:44.10Xinhuanthat's unorthodox
17:44.22Ellipsisindeed
17:44.33Xinhuanbut it will explain why when i checked it out from the SVN without externals, it downloaded an empty libs folder
17:44.39SmjI find this rather shallow and pedantic.
17:44.44Ellipsisthat's what she said
17:46.49koyhey guys, does anyone here is using assessment?
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17:48.52CIA-403xinhuan * r55177 10Postal/Libs/: Postal: - Remove AbacusLib from externals
17:49.23Xinhuaninteresting. did CIA-4 skip reporting r55176?
17:49.35nevcairielobviously
17:49.35Xinhuan(which isn't my commit)
17:49.37HjalteWhen debuffs are dispelled, is there any specific order they go off?
17:49.48Xinhuanwhy would it skip reporting that one
17:49.55NightHawkTheSan1so did CIA-9 in wowace-cia
17:49.55nevcairielno its random Hjalte
17:50.03nevcairielXinhuan lag or so
17:50.15hyperChipmunkit's mercifully random
17:50.23hyperChipmunkin EQ it was defined
17:50.32hyperChipmunkand it was a headache
17:50.48Xinhuanwhy was it a headache?
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17:51.13KarlThePagandispelling used to be defined... ah the lost art of stacking buffs
17:51.17hyperChipmunkbecause you had to keep dummy buffs in the dispel slots
17:51.33Pkekyocomeon people, recommend me some good movies :)
17:51.37hyperChipmunkso you could nullify the effects of the dispels
17:51.39KarlThePaganaw i kinda liked putting rank 1 shadow ward on people
17:52.00Xinhuani'm afraid i don't quite understand
17:52.07Xinhuanwhat "dispelling used to be defined" means
17:52.22NightHawkTheSan1as in, the buffs that were dispelled were inherently predictable
17:52.29hyperChipmunkif you could predict which would be debuffed
17:52.55hyperChipmunkthen you're, by extension, forced to manage your buffs so that a nonuseful buff gets taken each time
17:53.06KarlThePagani think before 1.9 it worked that way in wow
17:53.08Xinhuanso it adds to pvp complexity?
17:53.08hyperChipmunkwhich means you can counter the effects of the dispel
17:53.16hyperChipmunkbut it's a MASSIVE pain to manage
17:53.25KarlThePaganthe only problem is priest dispel hits 2 buffs
17:53.28KarlThePaganso meh
17:53.39KarlThePaganit was a losing battle
17:53.48hyperChipmunksince hots and stuff are buffs
17:54.35hyperChipmunkif you got something stuck in your dispel slot before you could get your dummy buff back in there and...argh, it was a pain
17:55.00Ellipsisfunny, CIA-4 isn't reporting r55178 either, it seems...
17:55.13EllipsisXinhuan, are you blackmailing the bot to make it seem like you're the only one working? :P
17:55.15hyperChipmunkcia has never ever been reliable
17:55.38Xinhuancia-4 seems to be on 20+ channels
17:55.47Xinhuanis it trying to spam the same stuff to all 20 channels?
17:55.54NightHawkTheSan1unlikely
17:56.10Ellipsisit might be reporting enough stuff to get throttled though
17:56.23Xinhuanthrottled stuff should be queued, rather than dropped though?
17:56.27Ellipsisshould
17:56.32Ellipsisthat's up to the server though
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18:02.35Xinhuanincoming sag_ich_nicht disconnect :)
18:03.46Mudkipsanyone else having problems with create all when making stuff?
18:04.00thulwhy does alliance suck donkey balls in pvp?
18:04.01Xinhuanno
18:04.01Mudkipslets say I got a stack of food to cook
18:04.03Xinhuanjust you
18:04.15MudkipsI press creat all and it only creates one then stops
18:04.26Xinhuanyou have an interfering addon
18:04.39Mudkipshmm
18:04.50Mudkipsonly thing that comes to mind is quartz
18:04.58Mudkipserrp
18:05.12Mudkipscraftlist2?
18:05.21Xinhuani have quartz and CL2 and it works fine
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18:05.27Mudkipshmm
18:05.44Xinhuanlogout and login might fix issue?
18:05.45MudkipsI don't use any addons to manage my crafting anymore
18:05.48Mudkipsit's all default
18:05.54Mudkipsit's been happening since 2.3
18:06.06EllipsisI haven't had problems
18:07.04Pkekyocomeon people, recommend me some good movies!
18:07.10XinhuanSpeed
18:07.15MudkipsKnocked up
18:07.31Pkekyogot'em both
18:07.49Pkekyomoar?
18:07.52XinhuanLord of the Rings
18:08.05MudkipsStranger than Fiction
18:08.17Pkekyogot'em both >.<
18:08.17Pkekyomoar?
18:08.32kebinusanPans Labyrinth
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18:08.48Pkekyomoar?
18:08.58Xinhuan~lart Pkekyo
18:08.58purlteaches Pkekyo the basics, including how to RTM
18:08.58Pkekyogimme a huge honking fucking list of movies
18:09.04Mudkipsyeah good movie Pan's Labyrinth
18:09.09kebinusanPkekyo:  www.imdb.com
18:09.17Mudkipsmakes me wonder why american tv has to do so much stupid dubbing
18:09.18kebinusanjust look at top dvd sales or something
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18:09.34Mudkipsthe movie is better if you watch it in it's native language
18:09.47kebinusanI cant stand watching most dubbed anime
18:09.58Mudkipsme neither
18:10.15thulakira
18:10.21thulneon genesis evangelion
18:10.21Mudkipsand the only reason I buy the DVD's are to support the industry
18:10.27thulgghost in the shell (series AND film)
18:10.38Mudkipseven though the DVD"s have shit quality subs in terms of visual appeal
18:10.40PkekyoMudkips: what industry?
18:10.52Mudkipsyellow jagged font ohmigod
18:10.57kebinusanheh
18:11.05MudkipsI'd rather watch fansubs
18:11.11kebinusanIts fun watching dvds in english with english subtitles to see how badly its off
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18:11.47Pkekyokebinusan: it's not that bad...you should see some of these bloody norwegian subs... *pops enrage*
18:11.55kebinusanheh
18:12.16Mudkipsthe only movies I love watching dubbed are the old chinese kungfu movies
18:12.19Mudkipsthat stuff is hilarious
18:14.09Pkekyolast night...was watching The Darwin Awards.... sat through the entire end credits to find out what twat I had to kill for making so shitty fucking subs
18:18.42Silowyievery time I sign in to WoW ArkInventory is set in the bottom left of the screen
18:18.54Silowyiand every time I mvoe it the game freezes for about 20 sec
18:20.25Pkekyoyeah, updated today and got the same problem
18:20.52Silowyigreat addon
18:20.54Silowyioverall
18:20.58Silowyijust an annoying bug
18:21.06PkekyoI kinda hate it tbh
18:21.23kebinusantry baggins
18:21.33PkekyoI like OneBa
18:21.34Pkekyog
18:21.43Silowyithe categories
18:21.44Pkekyojust wish it had the sorting-function of ArkInv
18:21.57Silowyisorting my bags is a fairly high priority for me
18:22.12kebinusanbaggins has categories and can be set to display in a single frame like arkinv
18:22.17Pkekyome too...but ArkInv has been annoying me more and more for every update lately
18:22.19Silowyihmm
18:22.24SilowyiI've not played with it yet
18:22.38Silowyidoes it allow viewing/searching of other character's inventories?
18:23.25PkekyoOneBag? or ArkInv?
18:23.46kebinusanbaggins doesnt, but you can still use oneview for that I guess if its important to you
18:24.10Ellipsisexcept that onebank/oneview are dependent on onebag anyway
18:24.15Pkekyokebinusan: you familiar with baggins?
18:24.27EllipsisI heart mah Baggins
18:24.27kebinusansomewhat
18:24.40Pkekyodoes it has alpha settings? to what extent?
18:25.27kebinusanId have to load it up I dont recall off the top of my head, pretty sure you can set all the standard stuff like that tho
18:25.44kebinusanyou can define categories pretty well
18:25.58kebinusanby item id,partial name, periodic table category
18:26.01kebinusan, etc
18:26.11Pkekyoperiodic table?
18:26.32kebinusanits a library that sorts crap into piles of crap
18:26.42Ellipsis^best explanation evar.
18:26.55kebinusanheh
18:26.59Ellipsisalso: Blizzard sucks
18:27.14Mudkipssalty nuts
18:27.28Pkekyoalpha settings in bag addons is one of the most important things to me....which is where ArkInventory dissapoints me
18:27.43Mudkipsreturn old detect magic
18:27.50Silowyiwith Baggins can you view your bank away from the bank with Baggins?
18:28.04Ellipsisno, but there's Baggins_AnywhereBags for that
18:28.06Etern|goneDoes anyone have a suggestion for a small addon to use as a reference for getting started with making gui elements? I'm kinda stuck trying to modify elements in frames from in game
18:28.09Silowyicool
18:28.10Mudkipsoneback/onebank ftw
18:28.14Mudkipsbag*
18:28.31PkekyoMudkips: agreed, but it needs sorting :<
18:28.42MudkipsI sort my own stuff
18:28.47MudkipsI think I kinda like it
18:28.52kebinusanI like finding stuff in the same places in my bags, categories do that nicely
18:28.55koyany of you using assessment? i need to sort out the treat function... not working correctly
18:29.06koywanted to diss out omen, and only use assessment
18:29.16MudkipsI start bottom going up
18:29.21kebinusanthey both use the same backend and should provide the same information
18:29.39Mudkipsgear on the very bottom, consumables top left, and random stuff top right
18:29.44koyi know
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18:30.05koyit's just since i'm using assessment, i didn't want to use another addon if i manage to get assessment o show me the aggro
18:31.03CIA-403ag 07Ace3 * r55180 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua modules/castbar/castbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Castbar not default on all units
18:32.33Xinhuanout of curiosity, how much memory does Capping use on avg?
18:32.41Pkekyo99m
18:32.41NightHawkTheSane!c us Laughing Skull Lilithdemoni
18:32.44koysince i'm using assessment instead of swstats now
18:32.55koyfor meters
18:33.02koyshow some really nice info :)
18:33.03MudkipsI stopped running damage meters since it distracts me
18:33.11CIA-403gagorian * r55181 10DrDamage/Data/Shaman.lua:
18:33.11CIA-4DrDamage:
18:33.11CIA-4- Shaman LB and CL 2.3 coeffs, needs verification
18:33.13koyi have it hidded
18:33.21MudkipsI liked recount for recording things not damage related though
18:33.33Mudkipslike misses and stuff when I'm trying to experiment with gear
18:33.35koyi'm using assessment for that
18:33.53koyand since it also manages threat list, i wanted to stop using omen
18:33.59MudkipsI'll have to start using it again with I get my armor penetration gear going
18:34.06koysince they both share the same info, it should be as good
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18:37.52[Horde]Tricksycan try and use Dash if you want it there but not directly in sight, neat addon imo :)
18:38.29Pkekyo!points 1500
18:38.29fridgidschool, dmg, crit, xr, xg, xb = nil;        <--- that would nil all of those variables no?
18:38.29Xinhuan1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.
18:38.44Pkekyo!rating 1500
18:38.44Xinhuan1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
18:39.07Ellipsisno fridgid, you'd need to specify a lot more nils at the end :P
18:39.22fridgidahh gay xD, ty Ellipsis
18:41.52Xinhuanlua> a = 1; b = 2; a, b = nil; print(a); print(b);
18:41.52lua_botXinhuan: nil, nil
18:41.59Xinhuanit nils everything
18:42.15Xinhuanbecause lua adjusts everything on the righthandside to match the number of variables on the left
18:42.28Xinhuan[11/18 02:38:27] <fridgid> school, dmg, crit, xr, xg, xb = nil; <--- that would nil all of those variables no?
18:42.32Xinhuanso yes, it does nil everything
18:43.00fridgidahh, cool, that makes more sense, but i hadn't run it yet
18:43.14Ellipsiser, well
18:43.35Ellipsisin that case you wouldn't have to specify the = nil part at all though
18:43.52Xinhuanyou still need to specify at least 1 value
18:43.58BelazorXinhuan, I don't know if you know this, but your latest updates to Postal caused infinite loops in RecipeBook's hooking. I don't know who's fault it is, but when I mouseover a recipe in the mail it adds the RB data like 10 times real quick then goes away then re-adds it ad infinitum.
18:44.00Xinhuanor it will be a compile error
18:44.04Ellipsisif you tried to do that with = 1 or something though, you'd get a 1 and a whole bunch of nils
18:44.35Xinhuanhmm Belazor
18:44.57Xinhuanwhat does recipebook do
18:45.11fridgidi just wanted to cleanup a crapload of variables, and i figured i could do mass nil-outs like that
18:45.11EllipsisI wonder if it hooks the tooltip the wrong way o.o
18:45.26Belazorit integrates into the default tooltip, not like EnhTooltip that creates a sub-window below it
18:45.37Xinhuanstill doesn't tell me what recipebook does
18:45.45Belazorthen I don't know what you mean, sorry
18:45.54Xinhuani want to know what RecipeBook does
18:45.59Xinhuanwhat kind of addon is it
18:46.05BelazorOh, like that.
18:46.05Xinhuanwhat does it do
18:46.21BelazorIt tracks recipe information and adds banked/known status to tooltip
18:46.36Xinhuancan you check quickly what version you are using?
18:46.39Xinhuanthe revision number
18:46.44Xinhuanof Postal
18:46.48Belazorr55177
18:46.52sag_ich_nichtEllipsis the author of XUB flamed me
18:46.55Ellipsisowned
18:46.57Belazorupdated like 2 mins ago
18:46.59sag_ich_nichtheh
18:47.02sag_ich_nichthe was butthurt
18:47.15sag_ich_nichtsaid "i should keep the filth out of my postings"
18:47.21sag_ich_nichtmy posting looked like this:
18:47.25sag_ich_nichtlink to taintlog
18:47.26Ellipsisemo cat is sensitive
18:47.33sag_ich_nicht"your **** breaks ****"
18:47.33BelazorAnd they were playing nice with eachother before (assumingly) r55168 that throttled Blizzard's code
18:47.40sag_ich_nicht"Fix it."
18:47.51sag_ich_nichtthe **** was/is auto censor from WoWI
18:47.58Ellipsisheh
18:48.01Xinhuanwhere can i get recipebook
18:48.27EllipsisI think I need to quit coding
18:48.34Ellipsiseverything I do makes stuff break for no apparent reason :(
18:48.34Xinhuanit could be hooking it incorrectly
18:48.34Belazorhttp://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=1583
18:49.04sag_ich_nichtEllipsis what do you use for editing
18:49.06BelazorWouldn't surprise me, whenever there's an update to RB it's 50/50 if it works properly or not :P
18:49.13Ellipsissag_ich_nicht for lua? notepad++
18:49.22sag_ich_nichtokay.
18:49.31sag_ich_nicht(i assume it has syntax highlighting, never used it)
18:49.39Ellipsisit has syntax highlighting...sorta
18:49.53Ellipsisit breaks if you do anything crazy to confuse it
18:49.56Ellipsislike, say, make a function local
18:50.03fridgidCRAZY
18:50.07Ellipsissrsly!
18:50.13sag_ich_nichtyou should just use xemacs
18:50.14sag_ich_nicht:/
18:50.28Ellipsisyou should die in a fire for suggesting emacs
18:50.33XinhuanBelazor, can you verify that the error goes away if you disable Postal?
18:50.33sag_ich_nichtwhat
18:50.35sag_ich_nichtwhy
18:50.39sag_ich_nichtemacs is superior :(
18:50.43BelazorSec, I'll test
18:51.04CIA-403scythxiii * r55183 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/ (. cyCircled_simpleSphere.toc):
18:51.04CIA-4cyCircled_simpleSphere:
18:51.04CIA-4- Updated .toc
18:51.09sag_ich_nichtEllipsis what is it about emacs that you don't like
18:51.21fridgidvim ftw
18:51.29Ellipsis<---vi girl
18:52.10BelazorXinhuan, works fine in the default Blizzard mail UI
18:52.19BelazorWant screenshots?
18:52.27Xinhuannot necessary
18:52.38sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: well that's great. then use vi and throw away notepad++ if it fails at syntax highlighting.
18:52.49Ellipsistoo lazy
18:52.50sag_ich_nichtnot like i'm some editor nazi
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18:53.10EllipsisI'd rather just be a windows tard and use my guiful software, kthx
18:53.42sag_ich_nichtif you bring up the editor argument i'll just tell you that i like emacs better and that you should DIAF and lern2use ed
18:53.46Xinhuanis it only an issue with recipes in the mail?
18:53.53Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: you're doing it wrong
18:53.57sag_ich_nicht(i can actually use ed. i wrote my emails using it for quite some time)
18:54.03Ellipsisl2troll editor wars moar
18:54.11Keiaseditor wars
18:54.12Keiaslol
18:54.27fridgidBUT NOTEPAD++ R TEH LEET
18:54.38BelazorYeah, as that's the only set of items RB interferes with.
18:54.51BelazorEditPlus ftw
18:55.20Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, if it makes you feel any better, I'll be deving on linux when I get my new computer
18:55.21sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: by suggesting to use ed, i make them remember the old times, that way, i can turn the editor war into a "who has more experience in the industry" e-peen competition
18:55.48fridgid<Ellipsis> sag_ich_nicht, if it makes you feel any better, I'll be deving on linux when I get my new computer
18:55.54fridgideverybody says this
18:56.03fridgidand two weeks later, they're like fuck linux, i like windows
18:56.22EllipsisI like windows like I like being anally raped
18:56.26Ellipsisonly on special occasions :)
18:56.28sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: you have much to learn about the trolling craft.
18:56.37MudkipsEllipsis wtf
18:56.41Mudkipsyou're twisted
18:56.44Ellipsis;D
18:56.45BelazorVista ftw ;D
18:56.48sag_ich_nichtMudkips hush
18:56.50sag_ich_nichtgo away
18:57.01Mudkipsoh yeah and my ubuntu cd's finally came in the mail
18:57.03fridgidvista blows ass, its only use is to make bioshock look amazing
18:57.06Mudkipsthought you should know
18:57.09sag_ich_nichtUBANTO
18:57.12Ellipsislulz
18:57.23sag_ich_nichtyou need at least 1000 giggleberts to install UBANTO
18:57.28BelazorCare to elaborate or do you actually like coming off as a troll? :P
18:57.42Ellipsiswhat's wrong with coming off as a troll?
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18:57.50EllipsisI'd rather be a vista troll than a vista user anyday
18:58.07Undinehmm, any idea how i might identify my lag spikes when crafting?
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18:58.21Ellipsisdisable all addons and discover that most of it is from the default UI
18:58.22sag_ich_nichtwait
18:58.23Ellipsis:D
18:58.24sag_ich_nichtwait
18:58.24sag_ich_nichtno wait
18:58.25fridgidhow did you go from being a special occasions grrl to a vista troll
18:58.25sag_ich_nichtEllipsis
18:58.26sag_ich_nichtidea
18:58.27fridgidi missed that
18:58.28Mudkipshrmm Undine reminds me of something
18:58.49Undinethink i may have found a minor bug with skillet too
18:58.52sag_ich_nichtaddon resource usage tracking, and make it visual with graphlib!
18:59.08sag_ich_nichtah
18:59.09sag_ich_nichtckknight.
18:59.12sag_ich_nichtfeel stabbed
18:59.15CIA-403fleetfoot * r55184 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:
18:59.15CIA-4LittleTrouble
18:59.15CIA-4- Rejigged the onupdate function
18:59.19BelazorI run Vista Ultimate x64 on a Q6600 @ 3.0 GHz, 4 GB Dominator X PC8500 ram @ 5-5-5-15 800 MHz and a 150gb Raptor as a system drive, and it p0wnz anything ;D
18:59.29ckknightsag_ich_nicht, no?
18:59.32sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/taint.log
18:59.38sag_ich_nichtckknight, yes.
18:59.46ckknightI saw it
18:59.54sag_ich_nichtokay then.
19:00.14XinhuanBelazor, do you think you can find out which addon loads first?
19:00.20XinhuanRB or Postal (lol)
19:00.39RaydenUnicwhere is the macro file?
19:00.49RaydenUnici looked under my server and there are none for each character
19:00.52fridgidtainting is so gay
19:01.12RaydenUnici guess the macros-cache.txt has stuff... but not macros-local.txt
19:01.13RaydenUnicodd
19:01.21Ellipsisfridgid: ....
19:01.22BelazorPostal, not only because RB does not ! itself to load first, and RB data doesn't always come up at first in the tooltip, takes a few seconds.
19:01.48Ellipsisin any other channel, that statement would be interpreted in entirely the wrong way
19:02.13sag_ich_nichtEllipsis you have a dirty mind
19:02.14sag_ich_nicht<3
19:02.15fridgidwanna join me in #manlove then?
19:02.24fridgidoh wait you're a internet chick >_>
19:02.28Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: you know you love it
19:02.28Xinhuanuh Postal doesn't necessarily load first Belazor
19:02.34sag_ich_nicht*an internet chick
19:02.34Xinhuanif you use AddonLoader, it has delayed loading
19:02.36sag_ich_nichtlern2english
19:02.37sag_ich_nicht:(
19:02.47Ellipsisan internets chick*
19:02.49Ellipsislrn2internets
19:02.53sag_ich_nichtAN HERO
19:02.55sag_ich_nichtLERN2SUICIDE
19:02.59sag_ich_nicht:(
19:03.00Ellipsis/wrists
19:03.02fridgidmiddle aged fat chick*
19:03.07BelazorI don't use anything called AddonLoader
19:03.08sag_ich_nichthaha
19:03.08fridgidwhoops im a douche
19:03.22sag_ich_nichtactually Ellipsis might really just be a man
19:03.25BelazorI actualyl had to whois fridgid to check if he was really in that channel
19:03.26BelazorXD
19:03.31Ellipsisfridgid, keep on imagining whatever you like, I really don't care :P
19:03.31fridgidlolololol
19:03.47Mudkipswwwwwwww
19:03.49Ellipsisif the middle aged fat chick does it for ya, then have your fun
19:03.50sag_ich_nichti remember that case from usenet years ago
19:04.00fridgidBelazor, i think you meant hopefully /whois'ing
19:04.02sag_ich_nichtwere a guy made up a whole person
19:04.08sag_ich_nichtsome women
19:04.14fridgidEllipsis, im single, but thanks for asking
19:04.14sag_ich_nichtand pretended to be her for years
19:04.29sag_ich_nichtthen revealed it
19:04.30Mudkipsyeah no girls on the interweb unless proven otherwise
19:04.34sag_ich_nichtpeople where quite shocked
19:04.38sag_ich_nichtexactly, Mudkips
19:04.43Mudkipsventrilo goes a long way
19:04.47Belazorfridgid, I don't know if your pen0r would fit so noty ;)
19:04.47fridgidand i totally just said single instead of taken
19:04.50fridgidgggggggggggg
19:04.56Mudkipshearing a voice is at least 99% sure it's a girl
19:04.59EllipsisI can offer whatever proof is necessary, but at the same time, I don't really care whether you believe me or not
19:05.08Mudkipsif it's not then... they're pretty fucked up to pretend as one
19:05.10Ellipsisit doesn't make much difference to my life :P
19:05.10Mudkipsgoing that far
19:05.26sag_ich_nichtMudkips true enough, and since Ellipsis was willing to get on vent she either is a girl or a 12 year old boy
19:05.26sag_ich_nicht:P
19:05.31fridgidimpressing #wowace people doesn't make you sleep better? FER SHAME
19:05.43Ellipsisfridgid: I know, I should care a lot more about you guys than I do
19:05.48Mudkipsand Im not calling anyone out
19:05.51Belazorthere are no gurlz on da intarwebz
19:06.01Mudkipsim willling to believe Ellipsis is a she
19:06.05Mudkipsfor the sake of believing
19:06.05Gagorian-~seen Tuller
19:06.13purltuller is currently on #wowi-lounge (54m 39s) #wowace (54m 39s), last said: 'the good news is that potentially is a level 6 mage'.
19:06.13Mudkipsnot like im looking for epoon
19:06.18fridgidsag_ich_nicht, THE NUMBER OF GIRLS THAT TURN OUT TO BE 12 YR OLD BOYS IN MY GUILD IS STAGGERING
19:06.22TullerGagorian: ?
19:06.26fridgidugh, caplocks ftl, sorry
19:06.27XinhuanBelazor, will you be on for a while?
19:06.41Xinhuansay about an hour or so
19:06.42sag_ich_nichtfridgid: i know what you mean
19:06.46sag_ich_nichtfridgid: it is horrible
19:06.51BelazorSure thing, just trigger ma highlight if you need me
19:06.55Xinhuanok
19:06.59GagorianTuller: Nevermind :P
19:07.01EllipsisOTOH, someone in my guild who sounds like a 12 year old boy turns out to be female
19:07.04sag_ich_nichtGAGORIAN
19:07.06fridgidlike they're on vent, and you're like hey whos the new chick, xxx is like, im 12. {awkward silence......}
19:07.07sag_ich_nichtI HAVE SEEN YOU
19:07.07Xinhuani can fix it, but i'm in an instance right now
19:07.10sag_ich_nichtYOU CAN NOT MAKE ME UNSEE YOU
19:07.17sag_ich_nichtFIX SEAL OF COMMAND WHEN UNARMED
19:07.33Ellipsiswhy don't you just equip a weapon, sag_ich_nicht
19:07.42BelazorHopefully you have better luck than the scrubs I tried to do Heroic BF with today for the daily quest ;p
19:07.43Mudkipsmy last guild had a mom playing a shaman
19:07.50Mudkipsshe let her 12 yr old play for her sometimes
19:07.54Mudkipsand even listen on vent
19:07.55Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: !!!
19:08.04Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: Who uses SoC when unarmed?!
19:08.06sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: i prefer a challenge?
19:08.07Mudkipsthere was some sick shit said often and she was there the whoooooole time
19:08.16Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: then solo instances
19:08.17sag_ich_nichtGagorian: i do, when killing aether rays :P
19:08.19Ellipsisbetter yet, pug them ;D
19:08.21Mudkipspoor girl
19:08.23sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: i am
19:08.26sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: i am
19:08.28Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: sigh :D
19:08.31Ellipsissolo BT
19:08.33Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: What's wrong with it?
19:08.34Ellipsisnubcake
19:08.45sag_ich_nichtGagorian: it shows as 0.
19:08.53Gagorian!
19:08.55fridgidyeah, our vent after midnight is ummm, not for kids.....or people who can't take jokes
19:09.00sag_ich_nichtEllipsis i'd rather solo you
19:09.05Ellipsisok
19:09.11Ellipsismy place next weekend
19:09.20fridgidss or it didn;t happen
19:09.28Ellipsishow about a live webcam feed
19:09.34MudkipsEllipsis is a raid boss
19:09.36Mudkipsaka warlock
19:09.39Ellipsis:D
19:09.41Mudkipsyou lose sag_ich_nicht
19:09.52NightHawkTheSanepfeh, you can just cloak of skill her.
19:09.58Mudkipsunless you're a paladin
19:09.58sag_ich_nichti'm a paladin. i destroy her pet, then crit her
19:09.59fridgidhttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=cam_whore
19:10.07Ellipsiscrit me for 200, oh noes
19:10.12sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: more like 4k
19:10.12Ellipsis:D
19:10.24sag_ich_nichttrice
19:10.26Mudkipssag_ich_nicht
19:10.31Mudkipsdon't forget to scream FOR THE LIGHT
19:10.33Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: Noooot that important imo :D
19:10.34sag_ich_nichtactually, twice
19:10.36NightHawkTheSaneand then pull agro and die.
19:10.39Mudkipsright when you're "there" ;P
19:10.44*** part/#wowace Kocoro (n=kochanne@90.208.34.89)
19:10.45sag_ich_nichtthen a 1.5k crit :P
19:11.03MudkipsOMG on my realm
19:11.10sag_ich_nichtNightHawkTheSane: no, i specced fanaticism, duh!
19:11.15Mudkipsthis girl on alliance webcammed with this guy
19:11.23Mudkipsshe took pictures of it and posted it on the forums
19:11.30Mudkipspenis and all
19:11.30fridgiddamnit pandora, you failed me once more......trance has to be the worst genre of music ever created, 2nd only to country and porn music jazz
19:11.34Mudkipsepic lulz
19:11.40xyuare you from sargeras?
19:11.44Mudkipsno
19:11.54xyuyour story has traveled far then :D
19:12.00Mudkipsmy guildie saved the pics
19:12.06Mudkipshes a guy so we tease him
19:12.08XuerianSomeone ping me..
19:12.21sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: but you are on the other side of the hemisphere and i don't have any money, how should i make it there, especially without an address :(
19:12.39Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: l2monies
19:13.02fridgid* Ping reply from Xuerian: ? second(s)
19:13.07sag_ich_nichtactually i do have enough money for a intercontinental flight there and back, but that's not the point :P
19:13.11Mudkipscan't track Ellipsis
19:13.12sag_ich_nicht*an
19:13.16Mudkipssince she doesn't go outside
19:13.24Ellipsislol
19:13.25Mudkipsl2satellite
19:13.39Ellipsisl2basement
19:13.44sag_ich_nichtno.
19:13.45Mudkipsgoogle maps scares me sometimes
19:16.29sag_ich_nichtbasements are bad :/
19:16.57fridgidbasements are pro, don't kid.
19:17.54cchomeanyone getting [2007/11/17 14:15:35-2401-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:737: bad argument #1 to 'strlower' (string expected, got nil):Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:737: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:719>:  ---
19:21.13CIA-403xinhuan * r55185 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Undo commit 55168 as it breaks RecipeBook. Will have a different fix soon.
19:22.25Ellipsissadpanda
19:27.02MentalPowercchome: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2855994136&pageNo=1&sid=1#17
19:28.25*** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=xD@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk)
19:28.31sag_ich_nichtoh fuck it
19:28.35Azurebasements are great in summer
19:28.39sag_ich_nichti'm going to bed early again today
19:28.40sag_ich_nichtnight
19:28.55sag_ich_nichtalway friggin tired the last few days long
19:28.56sag_ich_nicht:/
19:29.46*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=chatzill@89.160.82.111)
19:30.06Azurei still wonder how you can use that sentence as a nickname ;)
19:30.37Pkekyoit's easy...just /nick sag_ich_nicht.... do it some time he's offline though...
19:30.44XinhuanBelazor, i undid the change that broke it, so update (hehe)
19:31.28BelazorHehe ok. What was the update supposed to do anyways, increase performance?
19:31.37AzurePkekyo: i meant the fact that its a german sentence.. :p
19:31.39NickenyfikenHehe alliance raid on Orgrimmar on EU-Outland
19:31.41Xinhuanya
19:31.45NickenyfikenServer crashed atleast 2 times
19:31.46PkekyoAzure: I know, I know :)
19:32.01Pkekyojust felt my captain obvious-sense tingling ;)
19:32.04Xinhuanbut the hook interacted the wrong way with RB that also hooked it
19:32.41BelazorI see, well good thing it was sorted quickly :)
19:32.47Ellipsissomeone remind me not to optimize code in the future
19:33.20BelazorEver since I found the mod I've been in love with it, and I do prefer not getting a seizure every time I receive a recipe ;p hehe
19:33.36Azureask sag_ich_nicht, he would do everything.. while drooling i guess ;)
19:33.45Xinhuanwell update to r55185, it should be gone/fixed ;p
19:34.18Belazorwill do later, in a party for guildpug of kara atm. thanks :)
19:37.04miicawhere i get star zigers :D
19:37.16miicaanime series
19:37.27Mudkipswww.google.com
19:38.23Pkekyolollilops, I have 222g 22s 22c >.<
19:39.26Mudkipsrigged
19:40.23Fisker-omg sag_ich_nicht
19:40.28Fisker-kiss on the mouth tiem
19:41.07Pkekyoheard a rumor it would be possible to pay for repairs with guildbank funds at vendors this patch... anyone able to confirm?
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19:43.22Xinhuanis that sarcasm Pkekyo
19:44.14HjaltePkekyo: Heard that too.
19:44.56*** join/#wowace piotrb (n=Piotr@S010600104b247681.vc.shawcable.net)
19:45.03PkekyoXinhuan: no, I heard a rumor, and wish to know wether it's false or not...
19:45.03*** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=karpadni@gateway/tor/x-83f3510e1a4c3e1b)
19:45.12Xinhuanits in the first 20 lines of the patch notes
19:46.11vhaarrPkekyo: you suck
19:46.26piotrbcommiting my first mod to the wowace svn .. can't seem to find a wiki page on the guidelines on how to best external libs
19:47.05vhaarrpiotrb: svn propset?
19:47.44piotrbvhaarr: I know how to use svn .. thats not the issue .. just wondering if ther's some kind of best practices
19:48.01vhaarrthere's only one way to do it
19:48.08Xinhuanthere's no best practices
19:48.14Xinhuanjust set externals the way you want them
19:48.51Xinhuanfor eg, there is absolutely no reason why external libs should all be in a "Libs" folder, although that seems to be the "standard"
19:49.23Xinhuanyou could choose to have the folders directly one lvl higher without the intermediate libs\ folder
19:49.27piotrbok .. only thing I should do then is to use http://svn.wowace.com/wowace as the base and that's all?
19:51.33PkekyovhaarrPkekyo: you suck <--- no, I have a strict policy regarding not sucking.... you, however, even swallows... /boggle
19:52.08vhaarrof course I do, it's not fun with people who don't dare to take it all the way
19:52.39Pkekyoyou make a valid point
19:53.01EllipsisO.O
19:53.48Xinhuanso out of curiosity, how does one get @ or + in this channel?
19:53.51Ellipsisgah, I just reset my Baggins settings to redo my filters using the new item categories...and then discovered the new item categories aren't supported yet
19:54.03EllipsisXinhuan: apparently swallowing helps :P
19:54.18Pkekyodamn you Ellipsis, I was about to say that!
19:54.26vhaarryeah Ellipsis is up for evaluation right now, she has shown us what she is good for
19:54.30EllipsisI guess I'm just quicker than you ;D
19:54.44Xinhuanowned by vhaarr
19:54.45Xinhuan:)
19:54.47PkekyoEllipsis: nah, prolly has more to do with me playing wow atm :)
19:54.52EllipsisXinhuan: wait, how is that owned?
19:55.12EllipsisI'm a wimmenz, wimmenz don't do anything else useful
19:55.17Fisker-:O?
19:55.31piotrbcan FuBar plugins run on this new rock lib? (ie .. should I be switching around my deps and updating?)
19:55.36Pkekyofinally a woman that've gotten it right!
19:57.41Mudkipssammich
19:57.44Xinhuan~lart Fisker-
19:57.44purlfarts in Fisker-'s general direction
19:57.52CivrockQuick question, is there a way to make Fubar appear behind all other mods? So you could place another addon in front of it and it doesn't block its 'view'.
19:58.30XinhuanCivrock, not without editing fubar code, or running a macro every login
19:58.39Xinhuanits intentionally "on top"
19:58.44CivrockTrying to place SWStats over it but Fubar seems to be on a 'higher level'.
19:59.06CivrockWell, other addons seem to be 'on top' of Fubar, some don't.
19:59.14*** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@129.21.20.130)
19:59.37Xinhuanya well, there's many "strata" in the UI
19:59.43*** join/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@ip24-251-191-203.ph.ph.cox.net)
19:59.48Xinhuanand within each strata, a frame has a "framelevel"
19:59.57Xinhuanwhich determines what goes on top of where
20:00.19CivrockWhat would I have to look for in the SWS files?
20:00.31Xinhuanclicking on a frame will bring its framelevel up to the top for its own strata level
20:00.31CivrockTo increase its framelevel.
20:00.33RaydenUniwhat is the wow referall program?
20:00.44Xinhuanit would appear you want to raise swstats's strata
20:00.47Xinhuanrather than the framelevel
20:00.56CivrockHow do I do that?
20:01.52Chompersfisker on vhaarr love
20:02.17Belazorfisker as in fiskerdin on the eu forums?
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20:02.31Chompershahaha, hes' famous
20:02.49Kalrothinfamous*
20:02.51BelazorI lurk a lot ;p
20:03.07XinhuanCivrock, i wouldn't have a clue
20:03.10Fisker-ooh vhaarr awesome
20:03.24BelazorMaybe someone's seen me, I'm Vulcanus from EU-Bronzebeard ;p
20:03.35BelazorCurrently banned for some reason XD
20:03.38Varazir[NA]I use the simpleminimap and it shows that the tracking button should be there but I can't see it, why I'm asking are there any other way to change tracking
20:03.42Fisker-:D
20:03.55Varazir[NA]with this patch you can track npc to
20:04.10EllipsisVarazir[NA]: you probably have another addon hiding the tracking button - ElkBuffBars perhaps?
20:04.15ChompersFisker-
20:04.18Chompersis leo dead yet
20:04.20XinhuanCivrock: try looking in SW_BarFrames.xml
20:04.23Fisker-no man
20:04.26Varazir[NA]Ellipsis ahh I have that too
20:04.26Chompers:<
20:04.29Fisker-he keeps tripping us with his blind stick
20:04.30Xinhuanand change line 4 from "LOW" to some other strata
20:04.32Chompersthat makes me sad
20:04.32Xinhuanlike "HIGH"
20:04.38Fisker-indeed Chompers
20:04.42Fisker-we're fucking unlucky
20:04.45Fisker-we had a kill
20:04.52Fisker-warlock dc'ed around 15%
20:04.59Chompers:O:O
20:05.03Fisker-and he kept him to 5%
20:05.05Fisker-then we wiped
20:05.41Chomperslooking forward to killing him on sunday
20:05.48Chomperssee if it takes a whole evening again
20:06.28Fisker-that was our problem
20:06.36Fisker-trash respawned before we got the lock back :(
20:06.43Fisker-then we decided to try out magtheridon
20:06.53Chompersmag?!
20:06.54Fisker-but a cube hugger forgot that the mind exhaustion was changed in 2.3
20:07.02Fisker-yeah we still had some raid time left
20:07.05Fisker-but not enough to clear trash
20:07.08Chomperso
20:07.08CivrockXinhuan: Thanks. :)
20:07.32MentalPowervhaarr: we need to talk
20:08.03vhaarrMentalPower: I'm bad at talking, what do you want?
20:08.51MentalPowervhaarr: I would like to know the reasoning behind http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=40473
20:09.21HjalteDoes haste rating effect dots?
20:09.29XinhuanHjalte no
20:09.35HjalteDamn
20:09.39Xinhuanit only affects casting time of spells with a casting time
20:09.42HjalteStupid blizzard!
20:09.47vhaarrMentalPower: you bundle !Swatter with an addon that has no relation to error handling, while installing BugSack and BugGrabber are conscious choices made by the user.
20:10.43EllipsisHjalte: it does affect the casting time of dots, but since almost all are instant anyway, it's fairly useless
20:10.54HjalteEllipsis: Exactly.
20:11.01MentalPowerits called a compilation, and people know full well what they're getting with the packages they download "http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview"
20:11.22vhaarrMentalPower: I disagree
20:11.26MentalPowerat any rate its wrong to go out and kill other people's addons just cause you don't like then
20:11.55vhaarrI have no problem with swatter
20:12.21Xinhuandidn't swatter and buggrabber have conflicts since both are trying to do the same thing?
20:12.32MentalPoweroh, then why do you kill it?
20:12.48Xinhuanwhat do you propose then MentalPower, have buggrabber disable itself?
20:13.29MentalPowerXinhuan: no, I propose the reverting of that commit, back to the way ckknight had it. where the user was presented a choice
20:13.50Xinhuani don't actually get what the "choice" is
20:14.03Xinhuansince the user actively chose to install buggrabber, it means he wants to use it
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20:14.12nevcairielusers are dumb
20:14.20nevcairielsomeone might tell them to get buggrabber
20:14.22Xinhuanthe user didn't actively choose to install Swatter, but merely assume it is needed for auctioneer
20:14.28Xinhuanbut that isn't true
20:16.09MentalPowerit our preferred bug catching addon, just like buggrabber is Ace's, IEF is Cosmos' and VLF is VLF's
20:16.42XinhuanMentalPower: you cannot have 2 bug catching addons working at the same time, or have each bugcatching addon selectively catch bugs in certain addons
20:17.10MentalPoweractually you can have two bug catching addons work simultaneously
20:17.24nevcairielor even have them catch selectively
20:17.32MentalPoweror three or ten
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20:18.07nevcairielthats what the conspiracy catcher does, catch its own bugs, and forward anything else to the error handler
20:18.36Xinhuanthat's a specific case nevcairiel
20:18.39nevcairielyou said its not possible
20:18.43Xinhuani don't think swatter or buggrabber forwards errors to each other
20:18.52Xinhuanthey simply try to catch everything
20:19.02MentalPowerswatter forwards if its turned off via "/swatter off"
20:19.25Xinhuanalright, hands up if anyone else in this channel knew that command!
20:19.35nevcairieli've never used swatter
20:19.36nevcairielso no
20:19.36nevcairiel:P
20:20.07MentalPowerits in the swatter slash command blurb
20:20.33vhaarrMentalPower: whether you like to think so or not, Swatter is forced on people that download auctioneer
20:20.37Ellipsishow many auctioneer users read the auctioneer blurb, let alone the swatter blurb
20:20.49vhaarrMentalPower: installing it is not a choice people make
20:21.12MentalPowerEllipsis: surprisingly a lot of them from what I gather when they ask for support
20:21.25Ellipsiswell sure, maybe if you have a problem you go back and read the instructions
20:21.42Xinhuanalright, here's my question, why did the users install buggrabber ?
20:21.47Xinhuanwhen they already have swatter
20:22.07nevcairielmaybe buggrabber was in some other random compilation
20:22.15MentalPower(what nevcairiel said)
20:22.21Xinhuanif a user was using compilation1, why would they download compilation2
20:22.29Ellipsisbecause users are stupid
20:22.41Xinhuan^
20:22.42MentalPowerXinhuan: cause the compilations do different things
20:22.58Xinhuanif users are stupid then i am going to say that isn't really my fault ;p
20:23.06MentalPowerours deals with items and their info, others might deal with unitframes or such
20:23.20Fisker-my heart beats for you vhaarr
20:23.22Xinhuanif a compilation deals with items, why would it have a bug catching addon in it
20:23.23Xinhuansee?
20:23.26Xinhuanyou don't make sense
20:23.31CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r55188 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000 added to poles
20:24.05MentalPowercause we generate bugs like every other addon in the block
20:24.16MentalPowers/bugs/errors/
20:24.50Xinhuananyway, isn't that swatter kiling meant to solve an issue rather than due to addon hate?
20:25.19MentalPowerno, the issue was solved in previous commits
20:25.24Stanzillazomg
20:25.28LukianXinhuan, i think what he's getting at is you can just run /swatter off and they'll cooperate sideyside ;p
20:25.36MentalPowerhttp://fish.wowace.com/search/WowAce/trunk/BugSack?comment=swatter&groupby=changeset&searchAllDirs=true
20:25.40StanzillaAntiarc: omen is tainting! :p
20:25.43Stanzillabad bad Antiarc
20:25.44AntiarcWhat's it tainting?
20:25.52Ellipsis:o
20:25.55StanzillaAn action was blocked in combat because of taint from Omen - MultiBarBottomLeftButton10:Show()
20:26.07Stanzillaupload inc
20:26.08MentalPowerXinhuan: 40263, 40271
20:26.14LukianStanzilla, do you use externals? :p
20:26.16AntiarcI very highly suspect and embedded lib
20:26.20StanzillaBigWigs, too
20:26.23AntiarcBecause Omen doesn't touch ANY of the stock blizzard stuff
20:26.26AntiarcExcept the screen glow
20:26.30AntiarcAnd that's not taintable, AFAIK
20:26.41StanzillaAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77500
20:26.58Funkeh`Stanzilla, Its neither
20:27.03Xinhuanalright, i have no comments, you're going to have to bug vhaarr about it
20:27.06Funkeh`Its a tiant caused by the original addons tainting more addons
20:27.14MentalPowervhaarr: ?
20:27.15Funkeh`taint
20:27.22AntiarcThat isn't Omen tainting anything
20:27.25AntiarcOmen doesn't touch the spell book.
20:27.33Antiarc(nor does Threat)
20:27.39Stanzillahm
20:27.42Stanzillawhat is it then?
20:27.56Ellipsisanything that lets you click a button to open the spellbook...micromenufu maybe?
20:28.14Stanzillanah
20:28.25EllipsisI remember having that one taint the whole spellbook so you couldn't cast from it >_>
20:28.25StanzillaI open it with "p"
20:28.26MentalPowervhaarr: BTW, Swatter can be downloaded standalone same as BugGrabber
20:28.26AntiarcTry running with disembedded libraries
20:28.30AntiarcThat'll tell you what's really doing it
20:28.42AntiarcIt's a mod using one of Omen's embedded libs, so Omen gets blamed
20:28.44StanzillaI got no embedded libs
20:30.04vhaarrMentalPower: I know, but it's still bundled with auctioneer, and as long as that is the case, I'm going to be killing it.
20:30.19Stanzillaok auctioneer has some embedded libs
20:31.17MentalPowervhaarr: by your argument, I can kill BugGrabber too, since *its* bundled with some addons as well
20:31.24vhaarrMentalPower: like what?
20:31.31vhaarrI sure as hell don't bundle it with anything
20:31.37vhaarrexcept BugSack, obviously
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20:32.15LukianAn action was blocked in combat because of taint from Omen - QuestWatchFrame:SetPoint(), lol wut?
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20:32.46MentalPowervhaarr: search wowinterface.com for "!BugGrabber"
20:33.27MentalPowerthe point is, your argument is moot
20:33.47ckknightwait, what addons bundle !BugGrabber?
20:33.47Xinhuani wonder how many dumb compilation authors have both buggrabber and swatter in their compilation
20:33.50ckknightspecifically?
20:34.02vhaarrMentalPower: except StopTheSpam, those are all UI compilations
20:34.16vhaarrMentalPower: my point is not moot, if it was, buggrabber wouldn't do what it does.
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20:34.29LukianFramesResized, VisualThemes, Omen and Prat are the only things in my taintlog, not bad
20:34.53vhaarrMentalPower: and StopTheSpam doesn't bundle it, it just mentions it in the description
20:34.58vhaarrso no addons bundle it, actually
20:35.22Lukianoh and TourGuide, FuBar_DurabilityFu
20:36.04MentalPowervhaarr: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bundle
20:36.15MentalPower"A package wrapped or tied up for carrying."
20:36.28vhaarrwhat the fuck, you're pulling dictionaries at me now
20:36.31vhaarrthis discussion is over
20:36.33Funkeh`Are you looking for excuses now or what?
20:36.37Lukianhahah
20:36.38Xinhuani'm getting durabilityfu is tainting PETBARPOSY or some variable named that one ;p
20:36.46Xinhuandidn't really care atm
20:36.57Funkeh`Maybe you sohuld go tell the UI authors to stop 'bundling' it
20:37.06LukianQuestWatchFrame:SetPoint() for me :p
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20:37.28Lukianactually that seems to be the most common
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20:39.11EllipsisI actually haven't had any actions blocked yet
20:39.18MentalPowervhaarr: look, what you're doing is just plain wrong, you have no right in messing with other people's addons, especially to kill them without presenting a choice to the user
20:39.19EllipsisI guess that says something about my choice of addons
20:40.04vhaarrMentalPower: you have no right to bundle Swatter with Auctioneer, so I guess we're even.
20:40.12Shadowedwell
20:40.17Shadowedgiven it's his project
20:40.23Shadowedhe has the right to do whatever he damn wants
20:40.36MentalPowervhaarr: excuse me? they both happen to be my addons, I have every right to package them as I please
20:40.45vhaarrMentalPower: so read what Shadowed wrote
20:41.03Shadowedno, AUCTIONEER is his project
20:41.15vhaarrit applies to both of us
20:41.17Pkekyoso what's with the e-drama?
20:41.28ShadowedNot really
20:41.37ShadowedYou're comparing right to bundle an addon, to right to disable another addon
20:41.46XuerianAddon Wars IV: The bundle Wars
20:41.53MudkipsDUN DUN DUn
20:42.04vhaarrwe're done here
20:42.08Funkeh`Shadowed, just don't get invloved, a la scrooge. please
20:42.29ShadowedScrooge was mostly ckks fault anyway that it blew up
20:42.30Shadowednot mine
20:42.34XuerianFunkeh`: Just toss a lod stub between them, and let them fight to the death! /deadterrorist
20:42.40Pkekyowhat addon disabes which addon?
20:42.46Shadowedfight to the deaths solve everything
20:42.56Fisker-vhaarr
20:42.59Fisker-it's "brb, soup"
20:43.10breser/popcorn
20:43.11MentalPowerPkekyo: BugGrabber disables Swatter
20:43.24Pkekyoand Swatter is what?
20:43.32Fisker-the same as buggraber
20:43.37Fisker-buggrabber*
20:43.37PkekyoBugGrabber > Swatter btw
20:43.37breserAnd addon to track and show lua errors.
20:44.03MentalPowerPkekyo: thats your choice, but in this case vhaarr is making that choice for the users
20:44.16Shadowedclearly
20:44.21Shadowedyou should just disable buggrabber inside auctioneer
20:44.31Fisker-no, users choose to download and install buggrabber
20:44.40Fisker-as it's not bundled
20:44.40Pkekyoso this fight is something a la bitchy KTM author vs. Omen...?
20:44.47MentalPowerand users choose to download and install swatter, your point
20:45.07Fisker-and if you don't want to use both, you can choose that
20:45.10MentalPowerthe fact that its bundled is irrelevant, since its also available standalone
20:45.43breserIncidentally, how is Buggrabber better?  I happen to use Swatter.
20:45.50PkekyoI'm kinda with fisker here... if_he_informs people that it disables swatter, it isn't even a subject for discussion.... if people get buggrabber then, they make the choise themselves
20:46.06Pkekyobreser: no clue, never used swatter, I just like the name better :)
20:46.11breserlol
20:46.36MentalPowerPkekyo: http://fish.wowace.com/search/WowAce/trunk/BugSack?comment=swatter&groupby=changeset&searchAllDirs=true
20:46.44XuerianPkekyo: I don't agree with that, I would instead put a query box on load up: "Swatter interferes with BugGrabber. Which do you wish to use?"
20:46.57MentalPowerif it were for vhaarr it would not even say anything, just lobotomize it
20:47.00Shadowedthere is one that does that Xuerian
20:47.08Fisker-well again Xuerian if you are using buggrabber you have already made that decision
20:47.10PkekyoXuerian: why should he promote the use of anyone elses addon?
20:47.14ckknightXuerian, I did that, vhaarr removed the option
20:47.16Fisker-you have to install buggrabber by itself
20:47.26MentalPowerXuerian: and thats *exactly* what it used to do, but vhaarr removed it
20:47.36breserFisker-: I think his point is that Buggrabber is bundled with StopTheSpam.
20:47.48breserThus users install it without knowing they're installing it.
20:47.49XuerianFisker-: Um, no. We've covered the whole packaged thing, and devs here tell people to install bugsack all the time. Not everyone entirely voluntarily installs bugsack knowing it interferes with swatter
20:47.50Fisker-it wasn't
20:47.51PkekyoMentalPower: the point of giving me that link was?
20:48.14Xuerianckknight: Ahh
20:48.19MentalPowerFisker-: the bundling is irrelevant, both addons are included in compilation, and both addons can be downloaded standalone
20:48.20XuerianPkekyo: Why should he disable it without saying anything?
20:48.22PkekyobreserFisker-: I think his point is that Buggrabber is bundled with StopTheSpam. <--- if that's the case, I'm kinda with MentalPower here...
20:48.31Fisker-it's not
20:48.42PkekyoXuerian: I clearly stated if_he_informs the end user of it...
20:48.49ckknightPkekyo, it's not bundled there
20:48.59Fisker-if people want to recommend swatter over buggrabber or vice versa then that's irrelevant
20:49.03Pkekyothis is confusing :<
20:49.15Fisker-i'll also say "get fubar" if someone asks for a bar-addon like titan to display stuff
20:49.15breserOkay so he just wants to be a little more friendly to the user who may not realize they're installing something that conflicts with their existing addons?
20:49.38ShadowedPkekyo, it's kind of like people who like cake vs pie
20:49.46Cairennthe entire point is that one mod shouldn't silently disable another without giving the user a warning and a choice - ckk had added that choice, vharr disabled it
20:49.51MentalPowerbreser: I just want a revert of this change http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=40473
20:49.51Shadowedexcept, their both wrong because iceream is > all of them
20:49.52Xuerian^
20:50.00ckknightpie ftw, btw
20:50.00NightHawkTheSaneShadowed: CAKE OR DEATH!
20:50.02PkekyoShadowed: yeah, that's the general impression I'm left with
20:50.02Fisker-there is a warning and there is a choice
20:50.03ckknightcake can suck it
20:50.10ckknightNightHawkTheSane, I'll have the chicken
20:50.11Fisker-warning: Swatter is disabled bla bla
20:50.16Fisker-choice: delete buggrabber
20:50.17breserSo why is this so controversial, seems reasonable to me to ask.
20:50.18MentalPowerFisker-: warning, yes choice no
20:50.28NightHawkTheSanebreser: egoes
20:50.30breserCan't even say you're too lazy to code it since it's already done.
20:50.31MentalPowerbreser: thank you
20:50.38Shadowedtechnically
20:50.48Shadowedit requires more work to remove the choice anyway and then deal with this
20:51.07breserMentalPower: Don't thank me, I'm one of those evil addon authors that don't use ace so I have no pull around here. :P
20:51.18PkekyoCairennthe entire point is that one mod shouldn't silently disable <--- I agree with you to some extent...it should give a warning, or atleast be listed in the addon description and/or readme. however, there's really no need to give the user a choise. if he wants to use [conflicting addon in question] rather than [disabling addon] then he should just remove [disabling addon]
20:51.34ShadowedKILL BRESErt
20:51.38ShadowedITS A WITCH
20:51.44Cairennbut if he doesn't know that it disables it ...
20:51.45XuerianPkekyo: But then you're still arguing against what vharr's changes do
20:51.54XuerianDisabling it | Warning or asking
20:51.55XuerianThat's the line
20:52.08PkekyoXuerian: no I'm not
20:52.12Shadowedwell
20:52.14breserWell if you install and addon and it silently disables other addons, that can lead to some confusing debugging for someone.
20:52.22Shadowedit already gave the user a choice, it was decided that it should silently disable it
20:52.25PkekyoI'm simply saying that IF the addon disables another, AND the end user is informed of this THEN it is OK
20:52.34Shadowedit's not a choice of "Add a choice to disable it, or silently disable it" they already had one.
20:52.40breserI remember when fluid frames started floating around (pun intended) and people were telling me of odd behavior in my addon.
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20:52.56breserDeliberately making one addon authors life hell is kinda rude.
20:53.01XuerianPkekyo: I don't really disagree there. That would be, imo, acceptable. I believe it should present a choice, but to relevance, that's a superficial opinion
20:53.41Cairennimopo, I don't think MentalPower's request to have the change reverted is unreasonable, but hey, that's me
20:53.43PkekyoXuerian: we're on the same page then. if given a choise, ofcourse that's preferable, but not a -must- if the [disabling addon]'s author does not wish to implement the feature
20:54.01XuerianFair enough
20:54.04Pkekyoimopo? well that's a new one
20:54.04ckknightimopo?
20:54.12breserin my opinion
20:54.13Cairennin my own personal opinion
20:54.15Pkekyoin my own personal opinion, I guess?
20:54.18ckknightah
20:54.20Shadowedin my overpowered opinion
20:54.23Pkekyo^^
20:54.34breserIt seems to me two courses of action are appropriate:
20:54.36ckknightin my overwhelmingly pedantic opinion
20:54.37Pkekyoyay, Xuerian we r has teh agree :>
20:54.38ckknightI like that one
20:54.42bresera) Stop disabling swatter.
20:55.01breserb) Present the user a choice or some notification that you disabled swatter.
20:55.10MentalPowerPkekyo: the feature was already there, it was added by ckknight, but was later removed by vhaarr
20:55.27PkekyoMentalPower: is vharr the author of the addon?
20:55.33Cairennand all he is asking is that it be reverted
20:55.38ckknightwell, that's arguable, Pkekyo
20:55.43ckknightit was made by someone else back in the day
20:55.52ckknightmultiple people have committed to it since then
20:55.52Pkekyobreser           b) Present the user some notification that you disabled swatter. <--- would be the right thing to do
20:55.54ckknightincluding myself
20:56.02Pkekyohuh
20:56.07CIA-403ackis * r55190 10HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer.toc:
20:56.07CIA-4HealOrganizer:
20:56.07CIA-4- ToC Bump
20:56.20Pkekyois there one individual officially maintaining it?
20:56.38breserckknight: Go fix cartographer to stop having those map artifacts, go go...  :P
20:57.03Lukianckknight, oh and add the auchindoun instances like on the default map
20:57.05Pkekyockknight: will cartographer get support for the ie. daily quest icons you now get on the minimap?
20:57.11ckknight:-(
20:57.17ckknighttoo many people bugging the shit out of me
20:57.21ckknightback to watching Moonlight
20:57.22Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
20:57.26Fisker-and i'm not one of them wee!
20:57.28Ellipsis/bug ckknight
20:57.34Fisker-btw Lukian it's a general error with instancemaps atm
20:57.34PkekyoFisker-: gz on a world first
20:57.34breserI was kidding.
20:57.41breserWell sorta.
20:57.56LukianFisker-, nah, the auch instances are labelled on the default map now
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20:58.04Pkekyoyou're only saying that because you made him leave, breser :p
20:58.04Lukianso you actually know which one is n/e/s/w
20:58.24Fisker-Lukian i'm saying that switching to instance maps is broken :P
20:58.30Fisker-thought that was what you were referring to
20:58.34Lukianneg :)
20:58.46breserPkekyo: well I was trying to tease him for spending his time on this silly debate and not fixing Cartographer.
20:58.49Fisker-also thought cartographer grabbed the map from in-game :I
20:59.26LukianI'm guessing the icons are some kind of overlay :p
20:59.30PkekyoThe correct resolution for BugGrabber now (by ckknight) http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce?cs=22910
21:00.05Fisker-just discontinue Swatter
21:00.06Fisker-:D
21:00.13Fisker-in b4 flamefest
21:00.24Pkekyorabbit = vhaarr?
21:00.32Fisker-yup
21:00.49Pkekyoabout bloody time I figured that one out, I've been looking for rabbit for ages
21:00.57Lukianhehe
21:00.57Ellipsisbreser: but silly debates are *way* more fun than work
21:01.13Ellipsishence the reason I'm reading this right now rather than working on my addon!
21:01.25Chompersckknight: "CBS has ordered four additional scripts for freshman series "Moonlight," the network's lowest-rated show on Friday nights."
21:01.27Chompers:<
21:01.38PkekyoEllipsisbreser: but silly debates are *way* more fun than work <--- this entity speaketh truth!
21:02.01ckknightChompers, *shrug*
21:02.12ckknightChompers, I like it, but sometimes it can be a little weak
21:02.24ckknightChompers, feels like they should introduce werewolves or something
21:02.50breserNothing is more fun than losing repeatedly in AB because Alliance sucks. :(
21:03.00Lukianbreser, wsg is!
21:03.07Chompersuh oh, that sounds bad cck
21:03.11Chompers*ckk
21:03.38Chomperscan't be too picky with the writers strike i guess
21:03.57ckknightyea, damn unions
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21:04.21CIA-403sorren * r55192 10SEasyRotation/SEasyRotation.lua: SEasyRotation: Fixed some file paths
21:04.26breserSomehow I doubt the shows we're seeing now are impacted by the strike yet.
21:05.01ckknightyea, they're not
21:05.02Pkekyowerewolves would be win tbh
21:05.15ckknightthere's gotta be some kind of endless struggle
21:05.26ckknightcurrently it's just about survival and cracking the occasional case
21:05.46Fisker-what's moonlight?
21:06.03ckknightit's about a vampire with morals who is a P.I.
21:06.07breserSome show ckk is forsaking us for. :P
21:06.10ckknightends up hooking up with a hot human blonde
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21:06.24NightHawkTheSaneso its like angel, with possibly less emo, but unlikley.
21:06.28Fisker-wth :I
21:06.33Fisker-sounds stupid
21:06.40Fisker-overstocked on tv anyways
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21:06.50ckknightit's reasonably neat
21:06.57Chompersbsg was pushed back even further
21:07.00NightHawkTheSanewhich reminds me, i need to watch last nights sg:a
21:07.13breserDecent episode.
21:07.16Fisker-but haets that everything else is effected
21:07.32Fisker-everything good pretty much stops this month :(
21:07.33NightHawkTheSanei support the writers, so i don't really care what's affected.
21:07.40XuerianI'm kindof surprised it made it on network tv
21:07.49Fisker-then how can i get over my winter depression to stop me from going into a murderous rampage?
21:08.02CIA-403paene * r55193 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua:
21:08.02CIA-4Cryolysis2:
21:08.02CIA-4-Cleaned up the / command menu.
21:08.41ckknightrampages never work
21:08.48ckknightyou must have a sense of deliberation
21:09.12Fisker-didn't work well for asa coon
21:09.42Chompersa smart killer is a stealthy killer
21:09.52Fisker-true
21:10.51CIA-403xbeeps * r55194 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.toc:
21:10.51CIA-4VisualHeal:
21:10.51CIA-4- Bumped to TOC 20300
21:11.54CIA-403funkydude * r55195 10/branches/BasicBuffs/BasicBuffs.lua: BasicBuffs: tweak
21:12.48Gagorian~seen Maul
21:12.51purlmaul <n=maul@catv5403B564.pool.t-online.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 79d 11h 33m 41s ago, saying: 'that too'.
21:13.01CIA-403sorren * r55196 10CooldownTimers2/ (CooldownTimers2.lua Locale/Locale-enUS.lua):
21:13.01CIA-4CooldownTimers2:
21:13.01CIA-4- Fixed an arror with swapping items with cooldowns
21:17.07Lukiansorren fixes arrors often? :p
21:19.12Pkekyowhat happened to all the e-drama? I made popcorn for nothing? :<
21:19.22Xinhuan~popcorn
21:19.22purlMmmm, I like E-drama!
21:19.29Fisker-awesome
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21:22.07Pkekyohmm...what's with wow supposedlys upporting dualcore CPUs now?
21:22.20Xinhuanwell it works now
21:22.24Fisker-omgomgomgomg
21:22.25Xinhuan40/60 cpu load split
21:22.36Fisker-kane and lynch out
21:22.43Mudkipswish I had 2 cores
21:22.50Fisker-i only has 4 cores :(
21:22.54Mudkipsso I can share the load like the leet people
21:22.55Mudkips:(
21:22.55XuerianMudkips: p4 ftw
21:22.56PkekyoXinhuan40/60 cpu load split <--- how can you tell?
21:22.59Fisker-p4 fails
21:23.03Fisker-Pkekyo ctrl+alt+del
21:23.06XuerianYou fail :(
21:23.08Xinhuanuse Process Explorer instead of Task Manager
21:23.24MudkipsXuerian, paired with?
21:23.25Fisker-your mother
21:23.37Xuerianhuh o_0
21:23.48Mudkipsmobo, ram, vid card? be specific
21:23.59Pkekyoprocess explorer?
21:24.33PkekyoFisker-Pkekyo ctrl+alt+del <--- then what?
21:24.54Fisker-performance?
21:24.56XuerianOh, duh. 7800gs, 2gb ddr 2700, biostar p4m80. Is teh suck. :P
21:25.21XinhuanPkekyo in the view menu
21:25.23Pkekyothen what? (using localized windows, the translations makes sense for jack shit)
21:25.34Xinhuanthere is a show-1-graph-per-cpu
21:25.35Fisker-sigh
21:25.39Mudkipsseems fine Xuerian, except that biostar
21:25.42Xinhuanbut it doesn't show you the exact %
21:25.43Fisker-my isp sucks a bit when it comes to newsgroups
21:25.52Fisker-"lulz we limit your download speed on binaries!"
21:25.53Xinhuanyou'll have to download Process Explorer for that
21:26.00Xinhuan~google Process Explorer
21:26.07Fisker-"lulz i connect several times to download several times, bandwitdh limit bypassed fuckers"
21:26.11Xinhuanits from sysinternals, and far better than task manager
21:26.17Xinhuan~wiki Process Explorer
21:26.25Fisker-"Lulz we filter mass-connections"
21:26.41Fisker-"lulz i just reconnect each minute until i get enough connections, you just keep underestimating me suckers"
21:27.10Fisker-Xinhuan well it's bought up by microsoft
21:27.21Xinhuanits not made by microsoft
21:27.23Fisker-so don't know if it's exclusively them anymore
21:27.30Xinhuanmicrosoft merely "recommends" users to use it
21:27.35Xinhuanand links to it from their website
21:27.43XuerianMudkips: I couldn't find a better agp p4 mobo, and I had 2gb of ecc ram sitting around. It's a Unfortunate Series of Events that's landed me with this after spending 450$....
21:27.45Fisker-i'm pretty sure that microsoft bought sysinternals
21:27.46Xinhuanprocess explorer is made and maintained by SysInternals
21:28.07Fisker-Sysinternals was a website (formerly known as "ntinternals") operated by the company Winternals Software LP, which was located in Austin, Texas. It was started by software developers Bryce Cogswell and Mark Russinovich in 1996, and was acquired by Microsoft on July 18, 2006.[1]
21:28.09Mudkipswhen did you build this?
21:28.18Xinhuanrofl, that's news to me
21:28.49Fisker-their name is made of win
21:28.53Fisker-winternals
21:28.53Fisker-:O
21:29.04XuerianMudkips: It's a very long and convoluted story, starting with me buying 2gb of ram for a system I was promised that never ended up getting here
21:29.50Xuerian(In march)
21:30.03Mudkipsof last yeard?
21:30.05Mudkipsyear*
21:30.08XuerianOf this year
21:30.24Mudkipsoh wow
21:30.43Mudkipswow...
21:30.48XuerianYou don't need to tell me, I've mocked up c2q systems for a little more than I spent this year on it
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21:31.23MudkipsI can't wait to upgrade... even though I dont see that happening in the near future
21:31.29MudkipsI'm just trying not to break my computer
21:31.34XuerianIf you're not stuck on agp it's not that bad a problem
21:31.38Mudkipsthe power supply is starting to make noises >_<
21:31.41Xuerianif you are, you're screwed >.o
21:31.46Mudkipsim on agp lol
21:31.57Mudkipsso i gotta overhaul the whole system and it's like 3-4 yrs old
21:32.50XuerianNo real way to incrimentally upgrade =\
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21:34.35MudkipsI might snap one day if I keep going at this rate
21:34.39PkekyoI upgraded my tower this spring...
21:34.39Pkekyotwo weeks before AMD dumped CPU prices >.<
21:34.43Mudkipsthen I'll have NO computer at all
21:35.02XuerianWhat are you on right now?
21:35.25Pkekyo~baggins
21:35.25purlfrom memory, baggins is a hippie, or a bag addon that allows sorting of items, see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins for details
21:35.49Pkekyo~seen nargiddley
21:35.50purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 23m 30s ago, saying: '~framexml'.
21:35.50Mudkipsamd xp 3200 oc'ed , 1gig patriot ram, ati x1650
21:35.58Mudkipsthis vid card by the way?
21:35.59MudkipsEL CRAP
21:36.24PkekyoI have 1650 Pro myself (if memory serves)...it's fine...
21:36.24Pkekyohow'd you figure it's crap?
21:36.29Mudkipsmy 9500pro served me well so I figured why not stay loyal to ATi, big mistake
21:36.43MudkipsPkekyo, I bought the wrong one
21:36.49Mudkipsthis one didn't come with gddr3
21:37.16Pkekyodon't think mine's got gddr3 either...will see if I still have the box, one sec
21:37.24Mudkipsall pros should have gddr3
21:37.34Mudkipsor else you got some cut down version which isn't worth the money
21:37.51Pkekyomeh, I've thrown it away
21:37.54Mudkipslol
21:37.59Pkekyomaybe cpuz will tell me
21:38.03MudkipsI"m a box freak
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21:38.47PkekyoI kept the box for my harddrive coolant system, but not my graphics card...wtf
21:39.12Pkekyohow the flying fuck can I find out wether or not I have gddr3?
21:39.19Mudkipsyou got a raptor drive or something?
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21:39.36Pkekyonah
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21:39.40MudkipsPkekyo, usually if you google search the model number
21:39.43Pkekyocan't afford it :p
21:39.50Pkekyohow do I find the model number? :O
21:39.51Mudkipsor use some kind of program sisoftsandra
21:40.04XuerianEverest should
21:40.12XuerianFree edition on majorgeeks
21:41.25MudkipsI was actually force to buy a new card since my 9500pro fan broke
21:41.38Mudkipsand I rigged an old cpu on top of the heatsink to keep it going
21:41.39Pkekyohad the same problem with my 9600XT and 9600 Pro
21:41.54Mudkipscpu fan **
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21:42.38KemayoEllipsis: You pinged me earlier?
21:42.39Pkekyoseems I'm getting everest then
21:42.41Mudkipsthose effects near at the instance zones and that tunnel right when you dive into coilfang
21:42.49Mudkipsholy crap that lagged me
21:43.06Mudkipsthat is until I upgraded
21:43.17Pkekyohmm...hope warriors get Titan Grip talent in Wrap of the Lizard King
21:45.10grzesieq_was that DWing 2handers?
21:46.21Mudkipsomg that would be OP
21:46.38Mudkipsmortal strike fury warriors @_@ holy shit
21:47.06Mudkipsdouble proc'ing executioner @_@
21:47.10Pkekyogrzesieq_was that DWing 2handers? <--- yes, yes it is
21:47.12EllipsisKemayo: minor issue with Quixote
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21:47.28KemayoEllipsis: What's the issue?
21:47.29Ellipsisa couple of iterator functions use a global "v" that probably should be local
21:47.30grzesieq_that's reserved for deathknights sorry :P
21:47.30PkekyoMudkips: suggested TItan Grip talents has had a 50% less damage done
21:47.56Pkekyogrzesieq: you're delusional :)
21:48.57CIA-403kemayo * r55197 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Some of the iterators had an unnecessary global variable.
21:49.06Ellipsisyay, that was easy <3
21:49.07KemayoEllipsis: Thanks for pointing it out, I'd missed that.
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21:52.14Xuerianhahaha
21:52.16XuerianThat'd be scary
21:53.45Pkekyowhat'd be scary?
21:54.45Pkekyooy Xuerian...how does this Everest stuff work?
21:56.03Fisker-http://i6.tinypic.com/6pyc4sz.jpg
21:56.15Pkekyoit only shows how much RAM my graphics card has, but not what kind :<
21:57.07PkekyoFisker-: sorry to say, but that's one fugly UI...please tell me you atleast use some viewport addon?
21:57.21MudkipsLOL
21:57.32Pkekyoah, you were just demonstrating the thunderfury spam?
21:57.33MudkipsFisker-, we have that problem with [Elemental Mage Staff]
21:57.38Fisker-Pkekyo yeah it's viewpoint
21:57.41Fisker-port*
21:57.42Diaolol
21:57.44Pkekyoit's [Dirge] on my server >.<
21:57.53Frittihey, I'm not really around that much anymore, but I don't see much activity on carto/fubar etc -- is ckknight not working on them anymore?
21:57.53Fisker-we just do legendaries
21:58.00Mudkips[Dirge] ? lol
21:58.04Fisker-it pisses people off :P
21:58.05Pkekyoyup
21:58.09DiaoFritti: ckknight has been gone for the past 2 weeks or so but he just returned
21:58.17Frittiah ok
21:58.24CIA-403funkydude * r55198 10/branches/BasicUF/: create dir
21:58.26Frittigreat, that's much better than more drama
21:58.26Mudkipsthis is why I use 2 chat panes
21:58.32PkekyoI imagine half my server got banned due to a million reports about dirge spam
21:59.04Diaolol
21:59.11CIA-403funkydude 07Ace3 * r55199 10BasicUF/ (. BasicUF.lua BasicUF.toc): BasicUF: something in progress
21:59.13Fisker-never been banned for thunderfury spam though
21:59.14JopsMy server got totally crazy with warglaivespam after it dropped for one of the guilds :<
21:59.17Fisker-but i only sparkle the spam
21:59.21Fisker-i don't contribute to it :P
21:59.25Funkeh`nn
21:59.26Pkekyoall I can say is thank god for IgnoreMore<3
21:59.41Thelynanub question, since the file descriptions are pretty useless - what's a good mod for auto-refilling things when I hit a vendor?
21:59.43Fisker-:<
21:59.49Thelyna(like food, water, reagents, ammo)
21:59.56PkekyoShoppingCart?
21:59.57NightHawkTheSaneThelyna: freerefills
22:00.01JopsFreeRefills is nice
22:00.14Mudkipslazy
22:00.22Jopslazy is good
22:00.22Jops:>
22:00.30CIA-403nargiddley 07Beta * r55200 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceConfig: AceConfigDialog: Fix Tree groups with children not scrolling
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22:02.48Pkekyohow can I find the memory standard (ddr2/gddr3) on my graphics card?
22:03.47Mudkipswow this are funnies http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2969688265&sid=1&pageNo=1
22:03.55Ellipsisgoogle the card and find out the specs? :P
22:04.02Mudkips"Warlock - This fight is for those who say OHHHHH NOOO NOT WARLOCK!!! They are very hard fighters because they use the power of main fire and the Satan!!!"
22:04.23PkekyoEllipsis: it've got both ddr2 and gddr3 versions, not distinguished by name
22:05.54EllipsisMudkips: that is pretty awesome
22:06.13EllipsisPkekyo: hm, no difference in model numbers between the two?
22:07.24Pkekyoafaik ATI Radeon x1650 Pro has both a ddr2 and a gddr3 version
22:08.11Pkekyo?
22:08.16MudkipsLOl
22:08.22Mudkipsthe rogue guide
22:08.31Mudkipswow you gotta read that part
22:08.53Ellipsislike water or transparent glue
22:08.54Ellipsisepic
22:09.04Mudkips"STEP 2: Much like Paladin, you must trick the rogue to think you are about to die and your powers will combine for the power of planet."
22:09.21MudkipsEARTH ! FIRE ! WIND ! ICE ! SHAMAN! GOOOOOO DAMAGE!
22:09.53PkekyoSTEP 1: This character should probably be played with a nintendo wifiii because it would be so fun to shake the wand like a person on very exciting drugs. People will think you are crazy but you will be doing MASSIVE DAMAGE.
22:10.28Mudkips"the angel with the breasts is your sexual image reward for victory"
22:10.33Mudkipsthis notes on priests lol
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22:10.49Pkekyoahahah
22:11.01Pkekyopure genious
22:11.56Ellipsisok, I have to admit, there are very few threads of that type that actually succeed in being funny
22:12.06Ellipsisthat's definitely one of them
22:12.09Mudkips11/10
22:12.32Pkekyomeh, SIlent Hill is quite possibly the creepiest non-german non-pornographic movie ever
22:12.45BirdemaniI found it pretty tame
22:12.49Mudkips^
22:12.57Birdemaniyou want to see the creepiest movie? wolfe creek
22:13.13PkekyoI hate that guy with the huge metal head
22:13.27Mudkipsoh pyramid head
22:13.33Pkekyoyup
22:13.51Mudkipsmy friend tim can play horror genre games like nobody else
22:13.54Mudkipshes got nerves of steel
22:14.12Mudkipshes probably played it all
22:14.26PkekyoI got no problem with horror genre games
22:14.26Pkekyonor movies tbh
22:14.26Pkekyobut Silent Hill? meh...creeps me out
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22:15.14Orionshockthe f? "Library 'AceDB-3.0' is not Embed capable"
22:15.18Pkekyothe guy who thought up this shit've got to have some rather interesting thoughts
22:15.38PkekyoOrionshock: it means you're a bad, bad person
22:15.43Ellipsis^
22:15.50Orionshockthat mean im gona have to do the thing that SmothDurability did?
22:15.50Ellipsisreally, it's because you touch yourself at night
22:15.55Orionshock>.-
22:16.00xerawx"It is like if you just sat there licking your blood but have arrows shoot in your eyes causing more blood. you will use your mana to get rid of the blood till you have no more mana and the arrows cover your entire body in a coat of pain."
22:16.32PkekyoEllipsis: stop lying, touching oneself at night when someone else is not within reach is fully legitimate
22:16.38ckknightFritti, part of the reason I left was because of drama
22:17.02Pkekyomore e-drama? :O
22:17.02Pkekyo/popcorn
22:17.27ckknightno, I'm not participating anymore
22:17.31Pkekyoah
22:17.43Pkekyolooks like once again I made popcorn for no reason at all then
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22:19.37Fisker-you just keep underestimating me, suckers.
22:19.52XuerianThat guide is teh awesome
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22:20.17Birdemanigetting a ton of taint spam from PRAT
22:26.04Orionshock-.-  not getting this ace3 local bit :(
22:27.54Orionshock:((
22:28.14OminousOrionshock, look at the classtimer branch for a working ace3 mod
22:28.24Orionshockkk
22:29.00OrionshockOminous: your kidding
22:29.07Orionshocki've got to do locales like that?
22:29.26OminousOrionshock, yep, but why is that bad?
22:29.32Orionshocktedious
22:29.45Ominousi did it with a find replace :P
22:30.39OminousOrionshock, the other option is to make a local metatable which prints to chatframe in the right format and then use prat to copy the output
22:32.42Ominousie. local L = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t, v) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("L[\""..v.."\"] = true,") t[v] = v return v end }) instead of ace locale then copy that output
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22:35.07Fiddlewith cowtip I can't seem to disable tooltips when in combat, selecing 'Out of combat' does not seem to have an affect
22:36.08Orionshockdoes on enable have to come at the end of the block?
22:37.31OminousOrionshock, ?
22:37.36XinhuanOrionshock: ?
22:37.43Orionshocknevermind
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22:38.43Xinhuani just discovered itemrack taints "arg1"
22:38.51Ominouslol
22:39.12Xinhuanand that causes blocked actions
22:39.17Xinhuanpretty bad!
22:40.20Birdemaniim using itemrack 2.1d from wowi and its causing no taint now
22:40.24Orionshock...
22:40.39FrostByghteanyone know why cowtip won't hide tips when in combat even though it is enabled?  work arounds or anything like that?
22:40.53Diao2.1?
22:40.58Orionshockok AceDB-3.0, where is this elusive self.db.profile that im so used to?
22:41.08Diaoo
22:41.11Diaoi'll have to update
22:41.34Birdemanihttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6818-ItemRack2.1.html
22:41.37Birdemanilook in the comments
22:41.40Birdemanifor 2.1d
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22:41.47CIA-4tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r712 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/25_27_Wetlands.lua: TG: wetlands tweaks
22:41.58Diaoor perhaps i have it
22:42.01Diaohm let me check
22:42.16LukianTekkub, taking care of TourGuide's taint I assume? :)
22:42.41Xinhuanhmm interesting
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22:43.13Xinhuanwasn't even aware gello rewrote it completely
22:43.15Ominouswhats the name of the site similar to thottbot again?
22:43.23Birdemaniwowhead
22:43.31Ominousthanks, mental blank there
22:43.34CIA-403rabbit * r55201 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: HyjalSummit: Fix sync token.
22:43.46XinhuanBirdemani: but since itemrack 2.1 doesn't support events yet, i can't use it
22:43.53CIA-403rabbit * r55202 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: BlackMorass: Set a custom sync token.
22:43.57khang_edited: <Ominous> whats the name of the site better than thottbot again?
22:43.57Xinhuani at least, want a Evocation event
22:44.14Birdemanimacros
22:44.14Xinhuanto swap into evocation gear
22:44.40Estilquick macro question: to make my pet spell lock a focus target, is /petattack [target=focus] spell lock good?
22:44.41Xinhuanits not just evocation, its stuff like innervate as well
22:44.48khang_Xinhuan, outfitter?
22:44.56BirdemaniPRAT on the other hand has a TON of taint spam in the last log I was looking at
22:44.57EllipsisEstil: no, you need to use /cast not /petattack
22:45.02Estiloh cast right
22:45.03Xinhuankhang_: planning to try out Closet Gnome
22:45.03Estilthanks
22:45.24khang_Xinhuan, I use OutfitterFu
22:45.30Diaothere's no point in evocation event is there Xinhuan? didn't they change evo to do only 15% of your mana per tick automatically last patch?
22:45.45Xinhuanmy new evocation set is based on equiping Int wands and Int weapons
22:45.50Diaooh
22:45.51Xinhuansince Int increases your max mana
22:45.52Diaoto increase max mana
22:45.53Diaolol
22:45.59Ellipsisyeah, they basically nerfed it so you put on int rather than spirit
22:46.01EllipsisGG
22:46.05Xinhuanpretty dumb
22:46.06Diaoso you stack int including +30 int ench?
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22:46.10Xinhuanyes
22:46.14Diaoah
22:46.17Xinhuanthe best Int weapon seems to be from kael
22:46.29Xinhuanbut from the "easiest to get" point of view
22:46.37Xinhuanits that blue staff from scryer revered
22:46.46Ellipsislol, I knew there had to be a use for that thing
22:46.48Ellipsis>_>
22:47.01XinhuanSeer's Cane, 46 Int
22:47.07Xinhuanwith 10 mp5 on it
22:47.23Xinhuanso you even get an extra 17 mana while evocating :P
22:47.31Diaolol
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22:47.43FrostByghteanyone know why cowtip won't hide tips when in combat even though it is enabled?  work arounds or anything like that?
22:47.57Xinhuankael's staff has 52 int
22:48.20Xinhuanarchimonde's staff has 59 int
22:48.21EllipsisI'm wondering if two greens of int would add up to better
22:48.33Xinhuanbut obviously... i won't be able to get those as an evocation weapon lol
22:48.40Xinhuanlet me see ell
22:49.30Xinhuanthe highest green Of the Intellect is +24 int
22:49.32Xinhuanlvl 70
22:49.58Xinhuan+32 for offhand
22:50.03Xinhuanso that's +56
22:50.15Xinhuandefinitely better than 46 int on Seer's Cane
22:50.18Xinhuanby 10 int
22:50.41Ellipsisyeah, but you don't get the mp5
22:50.43Xinhuan10 int = 162.5 mana more as a gnome
22:50.50Diaowow
22:50.53Xinhuan15% of 162.5 mana is
22:50.55Diaobetween cyclone and aimed shot
22:50.58Diaoit's impossible to heal :(
22:50.58Xinhuan24.375
22:51.05Xinhuanx 4 ticks =
22:51.10Xinhuan97.5 more mana
22:51.13Xinhuanhmmz
22:51.56Ellipsisalso, green staves of int go up to 56 as well
22:52.20Ellipsisone item might be nicer than two to carry around
22:52.25Ellipsisif you can find one
22:53.11Xinhuanso using CG and swapmagic
22:53.16Xinhuani have no blocked action yet
22:53.26Ellipsis=]
22:53.31Xinhuanafter i got rid of itemrack and fixed the saerislootlink taint issue
22:53.59EllipsisI just realized how fail Blizzard is
22:54.07Ellipsishttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=25309    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25113
22:54.29Ellipsiswhy not just make the second one melee random enchants only? >_>
22:54.32CIA-403pastamancer * r55203 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: GridLayout - reset layoutGroup before applying attributes when loading layouts.
22:54.41EternAnyone have a good suggestion as to where I should start with regards to adding a gui to an addon based on ace-2? I can only find decent examples of non-ace addons which use frames. All I want is a frame with two icons that I can change from .lua, but it's proving a lot more work than I thought.
22:54.59XinhuanEtern: not easy ;p
22:55.11Ellipsiswowwiki is your friend
22:55.12starlonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=5530
22:55.23Ellipsisbut yeah, it's not gonna be cake to get that accomplished
22:55.24starlonI love the desc
22:55.28Ellipsiswhat are you trying to achieve?
22:55.57EternI want a frame which will have room for two icons, and I want to be able to set those icons depending on events
22:56.36Eternpreferably from my already written functions. More generally I'm writing an addon which will help out with shadowpriest dps cycles, telling you which spells you should cast
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22:57.12EternI can do it with text output, but that's not a very good way of showing things
22:57.51Ellipsishmm
22:58.00Ellipsissorta like training wheels?
22:58.06Eternyes
22:58.35Ellipsisyou could probably look at that code to get started, actually
22:58.47Ellipsisit's a simple icon + text display
22:58.54Eternoh... is training wheels an addon? :o
22:58.59Ellipsisyeah
22:59.00EllipsisTrainingWheels on svn :P
22:59.03EternI thought you were referring to the wheels on bicycles
22:59.06Ellipsislol
22:59.55Mudkipsim so hungry
23:00.03Mudkipsim gonna have a big in&out burger after work
23:00.11EllipsisI herd u liek fried mudkipz
23:00.20MudkipsNO U
23:00.24Ellipsisyeah, I do
23:00.49Ellipsis=3
23:01.12Mudkipso===3 ?
23:01.16Mudkipslol
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23:05.35CIA-403rabbit * r55204 10LittleWigs/ (23 files in 5 dirs): LittleWigs: Minor cleanups, mostly just removing translation comments.
23:07.31ulicyea I was thinking about removing those, but never got around to it.
23:09.57EternEllipsis: thanks for the tip on TrainingWheels. I can't get it to load in game, but hopefully there are some nice pointers in the code :)
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23:10.36Orionshockaight i have a functional ace3 addon :D
23:10.47Ellipsisyeah, it did start throwing errors which is why I got rid of it again - you might find older revisions to work better for you
23:11.11Ellipsisat the very least, the display code will probably be very similar to what you're looking to do :)
23:12.20Pkekyohuh...Ace3 operational?
23:12.35nevcairielof course
23:12.50Pkekyocool
23:12.58Orionshockoperational? id agree to that... documented or clear.. well not quite :P
23:12.59Pkekyoit any good then?
23:13.06EternEllipsis: probably. I can't get it to load in game, either. I'll try out something older as well
23:13.25Xinhuanimo, documentation of ace3 should come next ;p
23:13.34nevcairielwe're working on that :P
23:13.37Ellipsisdocumentation is for wimps
23:13.56Orionshocktho the DB segment is a bit ... different that what i was used to
23:13.56Ellipsisreal men don't read directions
23:14.25Pkekyorofl Ellipsis
23:14.43NightHawkTheSaneand Ellipsis is a real man (tm)
23:14.43Orionshocki guess that leave you out of that idea Ellipsis
23:15.00Brunersis there a way to adjust the timeout for how long wow is trying to connect to the logon server?
23:15.00EllipsisI read directions
23:15.02Ellipsis:(
23:15.14Pkekyoreal men doesn't ever EVER get lost
23:15.15PkekyoxD
23:15.30Pkekyothey just take detours
23:15.57Pkekyomeh
23:15.57PkekyoPyramid head is a creepy motherfucker
23:17.06NightHawkTheSane"Well, that was easy -- well actually it was spectacularly difficult, but everything's relative."
23:17.30Xinhuanread men dont' code. they get others to do it for them
23:17.42NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: i like that theory.
23:17.53Ellipsisno, that's what I do
23:17.56Ellipsiswait...
23:18.05XinhuanNightHawkTheSane, fix ratingbuster and statlogiclib for me please :)
23:18.10NightHawkTheSanei'm telling you, Ellipsis is a real man (tm)
23:18.24NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: works for me, l2notfail, plzkthx
23:18.32NightHawkTheSane:D
23:18.32Xinhuanits completely borked for all the +healing/dmg
23:18.34Xinhuancomparisons
23:18.48Xinhuandue to the textual changes to every gem, enchant and all healing gear
23:18.50NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i haven't really looked at that yet. :\
23:19.02NightHawkTheSaneit probably wouldn't be too hard to fix i bet
23:19.08Xinhuanplus it doesn't actually support expertise rating yet?
23:19.20Pkekyoratingbuster is currently functional
23:19.21Xinhuanit actually is a difficult fix
23:19.39Xinhuanbecause the changes are diffrent and not consistent
23:20.08Xinhuanfor example, the 18 healing gem now reads
23:20.35Xinhuan+18 Healing and +6 Spell Damage
23:20.53Xinhuanbut the luminous topaz now reads
23:21.06Xinhuan+9 Healing +3 Spell Damage and +4 Intellect
23:21.21Xinhuanitembonuslib was adding that one as +12 to healing and +3 to spelldamage
23:21.22NightHawkTheSanehm, good point
23:21.23Xinhuanwhich was incorrect
23:21.37Xinhuansince it double counted htat 3 dmg towards healing as well
23:21.40Xinhuanwhich isn't correct
23:21.55Xinhuanthen the 81 heal enchant now reads
23:22.13Xinhuan+81 Healing Spells and +27 Damage Spells
23:22.18Xinhuanwhile the 55 healing enchant now reads
23:22.23Pkekyoare there any expertise gems yet?
23:22.32Xinhuan+55 Healing and +19 Spell Damage
23:22.36Xinhuansee the inconsistency?
23:22.43Ellipsiswow, that's fail
23:22.47NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: ugh, wtb consistency. ><
23:22.54Xinhuanon top of that, all the epic dungeon drop gems aren't updated in their text description
23:22.58Xinhuanbut their effects were updated
23:23.17EllipsisWTB Blizz to die in a fire
23:23.23Xinhuanso your 9 healing 5 res gem still reads 9 healing 5 res
23:23.24Pkekyoagreed Ellipsis
23:23.34Xinhuanbut in actual fact, it gives 9 healing 3 dmg and 5 res
23:23.56Xinhuanwe're spending huge headacehes over this
23:24.03Ellipsiswe?
23:24.11Xinhuanauthors in general
23:24.17Xinhuanthat is using itembonuslib or statlogiclib
23:24.25NightHawkTheSane><
23:24.34Ellipsishow many addons actually use those libs?
23:24.40Xinhuana lot
23:24.48Xinhuanat least 10
23:24.53NightHawkTheSanei dont know that many use statlogiclib outside rb.
23:24.54EllipsisI'm guessing DrDamage is pretty heavily affected by the problem, but other than that, I can't think of any huge ones
23:25.00Xinhuan+81 Healing Spells and +27 Damage Spells was giving 81 heal and 0 dmg 2 days ago
23:25.15Xinhuanand +55 Healing and +19 Spell Damage was giving 74 healing and 19 dmg yesterday
23:25.16NightHawkTheSanebut, regardless, it's a headache for anyone that's trying to parse items for +heal and/or +damage
23:25.23Ellipsisyeah
23:25.35Xinhuannow on top of that, the ZG enchants aren't changed
23:25.38Xinhuanas stated in patch notes
23:25.44EllipsisI realize how much it must suck to actually have to deal with this (thank god I don't)
23:25.56Xinhuanthe scryer/aldor enchants description weren't changed either
23:26.02Xinhuanbut their effects seemed to be updated
23:26.45Ellipsisseemed to be? nobody able to test?
23:27.11Xinhuanthe people i asked couldn't really tell ><
23:27.20Xinhuansaid something about talents affecting stuff
23:28.01Ellipsishm
23:28.16EllipsisI suppose with so many unknowns as far as which effects are doing what now it's hard to break down the exact effects
23:28.16NightHawkTheSanei could probably check if i cared to log in
23:29.00Ellipsisunless you find someone who just got a new piece of heal gear and can check the bonuses it gives before/after gemming and enchanting it
23:29.58Xinhuanwe're assuming that the character pane info is correct even
23:30.31NightHawkTheSaneyou kind of have to assume that, though, otherwise you really have no starting point
23:31.18Ellipsisyeah but who knows
23:31.52Ellipsiswatch, someday someone's going to realize their character pane in game is giving different numbers than their armory profile with the same buffs/etc.
23:31.57Pkekyoso basicly, we're all screwed? :p
23:32.09Ellipsisand then that trust in the numbers will be forever ruined :P
23:32.38Pkekyoquite the doomsayer, aren't you ellipsis? :)
23:32.54EllipsisI like watching people suffer
23:33.04Pkekyohahah
23:33.15Pkekyogotta love people like that
23:33.49Ellipsislike just the other day I was watching a fail mage try to blizzard kite blood elves around BT
23:33.58Ellipsishe died like 4 times in a row
23:34.14Pkekyo^^
23:34.22Pkekyoyou EU or US?
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23:34.25EllipsisUS
23:34.28Pkekyohms
23:34.45Pkekyoyou sound like that bloody pally constantly getting me killed in SMV when I'm grinding
23:34.53NeroxAnyone know if their's a way to change time formats for miniclockFu?
23:34.54Ellipsissorry, I'm a lock :P
23:34.58EllipsisI don't have to get people killed
23:35.00EllipsisI just out-farm them
23:35.08Pkekyopull like 50 mobs to me whilst on a flying mount, then lift off and boom, I've got an additional 50 mobs on me
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23:35.31Ellipsisprobably not without editing the code Nerox
23:35.34Ellipsisthat's why it's mini!
23:35.46NightHawkTheSanelike your  mom
23:35.58Ellipsisno, my mom's not really "mini"
23:36.04NeroxGah, I hate the 24 hour format. ClockFU doesn't work with Fubar2 =\
23:36.09Pkekyothe 'your mom' jokes will never end, will they?
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23:36.14Pkekyo24hr format > all
23:36.15NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: if i had a good fat joke, this would be a great opening for it.
23:36.24Pkekyoalthough 73hr formats are kinda cool too
23:36.25buuHrm.
23:36.28Neroxlol
23:36.29buuWhy is auctioneer so damn slow?
23:36.30Ellipsiswell, I tried, but you really gotta work with me here NightHawkTheSane
23:36.37phawxanyone know which mod will put coords near your minimap ?
23:36.42NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: i'm sorry! i'm watching sg:a :(
23:36.53Pkekyobuu: it's always been a slow memorysink, and will always remain that way
23:37.01Pkekyooy NightHawkTheSane, what season?
23:37.06NightHawkTheSanes4, obviously
23:37.07buuPkekyo: Auctioneer4 did a full scan in like 4 minutes
23:37.08NightHawkTheSanelast night's ep
23:37.18Pkekyothey started s4 allready? sweet
23:37.21buuPkekyo: This auctioneeradvanced silliness is doing it in like 30 minutes.
23:37.29NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: .... dude. it's on episode 8
23:37.34NightHawkTheSanewhat rock have you been under for the past two months?
23:37.45Orionshock-.-
23:37.56PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: I'm not a US resident....stargate isn't even broadcast here
23:38.05NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: torrents are your friend
23:38.28Ellipsisphawx: if coords are all you want, minimalist does a nice job of it
23:38.31PkekyoI watched 10 seasons of sg1 and two seasons of atlantis on dailymotion
23:38.35Diaouh
23:38.40Diaodoes anyone have a draenei or dwarf priest
23:38.54Eternyes
23:39.01PkekyoDiao: no, noone, noone in the entire world!
23:39.08Diaouh
23:39.09EllipsisI can borrow one, why?
23:39.10Diaowhat's the cd on chastise?
23:39.12Diao30 sec?
23:39.17EternDiao: yes
23:39.19Diaowow
23:39.22Diaothat's fucking op as hell
23:39.27Diaonerf that
23:39.32Ellipsisno u
23:39.49Diaoi got chastised literally everytime it was up
23:39.51Diaoby this draenei
23:39.54Diaointo a mana burn >:(
23:39.57Diaoalmost lost the match because of it
23:40.11Diaogood thing my partner knows how to control the fight
23:40.17Eternseems TrainingWheels does exactly what I was planning to do, only better :p Guess there's no real point in me banging my head against a wall trying to get icons on my screen
23:40.42EternDiao: it's a pretty nice power indeed, just sucks that it's a holy spell so shadowpriests can't use it
23:41.07EllipsisEtern: maybe you can work with the author and fix those errors :D
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23:42.12EternEllipsis: :) Downloaded an older version (two commits back) and it works, so giving it a spin now.
23:42.43EllipsisI found it to be pretty useful, took some config though (YMMV depending on class)
23:44.41GagorianEllipsis: I don't use ItemBonusLib
23:44.44GagorianOnly API calls
23:45.03EternEllipsis: YMMV?
23:45.17EllipsisGagorian: oh, right...
23:45.31EllipsisI guess it would only really affect things like ItemValue_DrD and such
23:45.40EllipsisEtern: "your mileage may vary"
23:45.41GagorianMyus
23:46.17PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: s3/4 any good?
23:46.25NightHawkTheSaneyes
23:46.42Zhinjio|sleepckknight: ping.
23:46.48ckknightpong
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23:47.03Zhinjiopitbull, layout->send-in-game ... not implemented yet?
23:47.06Xinhuanpung!
23:47.13Ellipsispang?
23:47.23ckknightit works fine.
23:47.23NightHawkTheSanekong!
23:47.27Xinhuanpeng!
23:47.35Zhinjioits greyed out?
23:47.35EternEllipsis: ah. First time in a while I've gotten an acronym thrown at me I hadn't heard before.
23:47.36ckknightit's likely that you never saved the layout, and thus it is grayed out because of that
23:47.40Zhinjioaha.
23:47.57EllipsisEtern: don't mind me, I spend too much time on the interwebs
23:48.18Zhinjiohow do I save the layout? I don't see that in the menus
23:48.38Zhinjioexport is also greyed out
23:49.28ckknightyou save it based on a unit type
23:49.31ckknightsave your player's layout
23:49.34ckknightthen it will all work
23:49.47Zhinjiook.
23:50.47silentiumis Aloft not working correctly for anyone else, or is it just me? I've cleared its SV, and re-installed it (and all its used libs) through WAU, but it still doesnt replace nameplates any more, and all the options except the general "toggle on/off" and the profiles selection are greyed out
23:50.55Zhinjioyes, it is working now. thank you.
23:52.00Pkekyosilentium: it's working fine for me
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23:54.05silentiumhmkay, no I really dont know what to try next to get it working again, the only thing I've changed is running WAU every few days, no new addons that could interfere or something
23:54.11silentium*now
23:55.36silentiumand it doesnt throw any errors either, it just has all the options greyed out and mobs have the default wow nameplates instead of the aloft ones - and the fubar plugin doesnt show up either
23:56.03silentiumI can see it listed in the rock config gui tho
23:56.06Pkekyosure you got alldependencies?
23:56.07Antiarcckknight:
23:56.19ckknightyes, Antiarc?
23:56.28AntiarcEvery time Windfury fades from my decapitator, I get a "buff fade" message that contains the Use: on the weapon in Parrot
23:56.42Antiarc"-Use: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
23:56.47ckknightfreaky
23:56.48AntiarcIt's sorta silly
23:56.50silentiumI use WAU to grab dependencies, and it has worked perfectly until 2 days ago or something
23:56.58ckknightlikely an issue with tooltip scanning
23:57.10AntiarcI wouldn't be surprised!
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23:57.37NightHawkTheSanePfft, I'd be surprised. I would say it's likely an issue with monkeys.
23:57.46CIA-403damjau * r55205 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillInfo.lua: TradeskillInfo - update guildbank tooltip
23:57.56Ellipsismonkeys? I think the parrot is obviously at fault
23:58.01EllipsisI mean, I don't even think it's still alive
23:58.25Orionshockwtb  non-Ace3-Embedables generic table for those you can't embed :P
23:58.26NightHawkTheSanebecause of the monkeys
23:59.07silentiumPkekyo: but thanks for the input, I'll check that all dependencies really are activated and loaded (I disable all libs except Ace2 and Rock every few weeks and let them re-enable all the needed ones, to see if there are any libs that arent needed any more)
23:59.38PkekyoNightHawkTheSanePfft, I'd be surprised. I would say it's likely an issue with monkeys. <---- you mean blizzard devs?
23:59.38Ellipsisooh, that reminds me
23:59.41Pkekyosilentium: npnp
23:59.57Ellipsis|Stan|, do you know if EBB ever got updated for SM2?

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