IRC log for #wowace on 20071114

00:00.00MudkipsI could care less about blizz employees actually
00:00.02Wobworkno it's not =P
00:00.04NefarionArrowmaster
00:00.06NeoTronbesides, who'll be doing mech for badges now with kara/ZA? :P
00:00.08Shirikand I could care less about you
00:00.11Shirikwhat a coincidence
00:00.12ArrowmasterNefarion: what
00:00.16Nefarionoh wait..
00:00.18WobworkPeople who can't get 10man pugs?
00:00.20EldreddOh, I have given Bliz credit, just gave them credit where they would actually see it..
00:00.31KemayoI despise "I could care less about".  Because it doesn't make sense.
00:00.32KeiasPeople who don't want to wait longer for their new badge rewards
00:00.35Nefarionoh i think that's my fault
00:00.38Shirikif you dislike them so much, why do you still play the game
00:00.38KeiasZA/Kara is still on a timer :(
00:00.40Nefarionnvm the error
00:00.51NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: its probably a misspeaking of "couldn't care less"
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00:01.03KemayoNightHawkTheSane: I know... but it's so widely used...
00:01.08Arrowmasteryeah if "if revision > Cartographer.revision then" errored on you something is really fucked up
00:01.10NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: i know ><
00:01.31Mudkipswhoa Shirik
00:01.35Mudkipsno reason to take it personally]
00:01.44Mudkipsjust trying to back up that other guy
00:01.49Nefarioni uninstalled the svn client and didn't wanna wait  (or browse to the foler) so i went to the trunk and copied the text of the lua file manually  lol
00:01.58Mudkipsat least they get paid over there at blizz HQ
00:02.14WobworkNefarion: yes. That would fuck things up good =P
00:02.16Ackisis pitbull messed up for anyone here w/ the patch? i've had guild mates report it working, but it's messed up for me
00:02.31ShirikPeople don't give Blizzard enough credit, just like they don't give many other people the credit they deserve. There are a lot more people involved than some would lead you to believe.
00:02.48EldreddWow, talk about something being taken the wrong way..
00:02.48Chexsumpitbull works for me
00:02.51ShirikAnd I give props to Blizzard for trying hard not to cause huge changes
00:03.40EldreddI just wanted to thank some of the primary people over here at WoWAce for all their work, that's it.  I didn't want a fight over OMFG don't thank them, thank bliz..  I mean, there is no need for the attitude dude..
00:03.55ShirikIf you said the primary people, I could understand that one
00:04.04Arrowmasteranybody getting errors from AddonLoader, disable Capping
00:04.16Arrowmasterwait
00:04.31ShirikBut in all honesty, the majority of the addon community right now is whack and doesn't know what it's doing. There are a few good people that know exactly what's going on and are trying to help it progress, and there are others that are killing it.
00:04.54KemayoOoo, I hadn't seen the note about dual core processors.  Happy change.
00:05.00Mudkipsway to be anal
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00:05.06durcynArrowmaster: er, ToggleMinimap ?
00:05.12BejittAntiarc: anything come of those threatlib additions yet? :D
00:05.14ShirikKemayo: What change is that?
00:05.20Arrowmasterhmm i had capping disabled and it still is causing my addonloader to error
00:05.20Mudkipsgo breath some air outside or something
00:05.32AntiarcBejitt: Still testing them. Sorry.
00:05.37Funkeh`gn
00:05.39Bejittthat's cool
00:05.41Ackiswow wtf, i had a bunch of libraries disabled AND pitbull mods disabled for some reason... and load out of date is checked
00:05.57BejittAckis: i had the same thing
00:06.11Arrowmasterdurcyn: try removing the x-loadon-hooks whatever line with the minimap stuff in it from the capping toc and try reloging
00:06.27durcynArrowmaster: nm, capping is the only addon that hooks that, you seem to be right
00:06.27Stanzillaisn't that blizzard's new "I'll disable your addons when they error out"-thing?
00:06.52NeoTron"The latest patch of World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade shows a benefit on today's popular multicore processors like the Intel(r) Core(tm)2 Duo processor family. The enhanced patch has demonstrated higher frame rates by spreading the work across both processor cores."
00:06.53Ackisthey disable them in-game not at the load screen i thought?
00:06.55khang_purity ui looks awesome :) imma use it
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00:07.10NeoTronthat dual core change
00:07.16KemayoShirik: What NeoTron said.
00:07.17khang_is a big phony?
00:07.18ZealotOnAStickwhich module in ora2 isn't figuring out that Rebirth is 20 minutes now?
00:07.33NeoTronCurious o see how much my processor load goes up to
00:07.40NeoTronbefore it was typically 55-60% tops
00:07.42Shirikhuh
00:07.52CryectZealotOnAStick: would be the cooldowns module or whatever
00:07.57ShirikI don't see a major difference except that my total CPU usage is closer to 90%
00:08.00Shirikinstead of 50%
00:08.10Ackiswell, enabling all the disabled mods fixed a boatload of errors
00:08.32NeoTronit's great if it uses 90% on a dual core box
00:08.37NeoTronthat's pretty darn good efficiency
00:08.47khang_i never checked
00:08.52Shirikexcept if you don't notice a change, that's kinda worthless :P
00:08.54kd3I've got a quad-core, it's averaging in the 30-50 range for each core
00:08.58Hotphoenixwell anythings better than what it has been doing tbh
00:09.02CIA-403ominous * r54558 10Tattle/ (16 files in 16 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
00:09.09NeoTronShirik: I'll see tonight if I notice a difference..
00:09.24Ackiskd3: I'm getting a new PC here soon, not sure if I should get a 2.4 ghz quad or 3.0 ghz dual
00:09.33khang_Ackis, quad
00:09.43khang_better future proofing
00:09.45KivinIs there a User interface for flexbar, or must it be configured with slash commands?
00:09.51Ackiseven if the fsb is slower as well?
00:09.54CIA-403durcyn * r54559 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: CD 1 (rebirth) is now 20, was 30.
00:10.19khang_Ackis, yes sir
00:10.24durcynZealotOnAStick: try that
00:11.20CIA-403durcyn * r54560 10Capping/Capping.toc: Capping: remove WorldStateFrame_ToggleMinimap LoadOn hook, since it doesn't work in 2.3
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00:11.59CIA-403ominous * r54561 10Tattle/ (Gladiator_EU4/EU4.lua data.lua): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
00:12.00Brunersany problems on us 2.3?
00:12.23KemayoI hate it when addon errors break logging out.
00:15.04Arrowmasterthis is weird
00:15.05ChompersThe closest we can figure is that they're selling a life-sized plush camel, but to make more money they're selling it one body part at a time. This is the head.
00:15.17Chompershttp://www.cracked.com/article_15670_25-most-baffling-toys-from-around-world.html
00:16.15CryectKemayo, the only error that really breaks logging out is when you have a variable set for saving that has a loop in its structure
00:16.39Mudkipslol @ hazmat toys
00:16.44Mudkipsthat's just genius
00:17.03KemayoCryect: I dunno about that -- I just know that until I re-enabled out-of-date addons no ways of quitting worked.
00:17.36Cryecthuh thats strange
00:17.46Chompersthat sled is uh...
00:17.51NeoTron#24 was .. interesting
00:18.04KemayoWell, alt-f4 worked.  But the menu buttons and /quit or /logout didn't do anything.
00:18.58WobworkThat sled
00:18.59Wobworkwell..
00:19.27MudkipsLOL the peekaboo stripper pole
00:19.34MudkipsI see that van on the freeway all the time
00:20.30Wobworkand cock blocs =P
00:20.38MudkipsA+
00:21.11Mudkips1/3 of those products were japanese... clearly superior
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00:23.46hastehttp://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/beatlebears.jpg << I have one of those
00:24.20Kerafyrmsigh its not cartographer its librock
00:24.23CIA-403sylvanaar * r54562 10ACP/ACP.toc: ACP: TOC 20300
00:25.10CyrezI just learned something interesting... If you gain a level after turning in a quest and gain a rep level at the same time, the rep level up visual overrides the level up visual.
00:25.31Wobworkso you only get the green swirl?
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00:25.42CyrezYeah.
00:25.52CyrezIt just happened to me.
00:25.59Gngsk~seen elkano
00:26.01purlelkano <i=86603dd5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-319eba6ca2df3efb> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 16h 44m 7s ago, saying: 'wasn't there a change so that you'll need to have been a real part of a team in order to be allowed the rewards meaning you need a min fraction of the team's games played? Or is that for S3?'.
00:26.05aestilgod that bug with the pitbull stretchy icon thing pisses me off.
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00:27.38Arrowmasterwtf did they do to RaidWarningFrame? its not a normal Frame instead of a ScrollingMessageFrame or whatever it was before
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00:30.55Obelixprimesomeone was saying something about a replacement for gmail?
00:31.07[dRaCo]postal
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00:31.09[dRaCo]maybe
00:31.15aestili get that stupid stretched ico thing when i cast PW:S on myself, i get the debuff icon over the target frame [even though i wasn't the target]
00:31.20aestilpostal has erros
00:31.25durcynpostal is the replacement for gmail.  neither is updated for 2.3, though
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00:31.30xerawxanyone know the script command to toggle names above heads?  There doesn't seem to be a way to bind it by default but you can toggle in the interface options (not badges but names)
00:31.32[dRaCo]dunno, never tried it
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00:33.17Arrowmasterits a cvar, get the name of the cvar and you can toggle it with a script
00:33.31Kivinanyone use flexbar?
00:34.21CIA-403sano * r54563 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHead.lua LoggerHead.toc LoggerHeadLocale-enUS.lua):
00:34.21CIA-4LoggerHead:
00:34.21CIA-4- Updated .toc
00:35.35ZealotOnAStickpostal is broke atm.
00:35.43ZealotOnAStickbulkmail2/bulkmail2inbox might be working, not sure.
00:35.46Kivin~seen cncfanatics
00:35.48purlcncfanatics <i=evolve@154.18-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 8m 54s ago, saying: 'anyway, going to bed, nn'.
00:36.00IamZombiedumb question, but in the wowaceupdater what's it mean if the addon is got strikethrough on it?
00:36.11AeyanThe toc is out of date
00:36.15JCinDEmeans your 'load out of date addons' isn't checkexc
00:36.15NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: bm2/bm2i is working for sure
00:36.19JCinDEchecked*
00:36.20IamZombiewhat I thougth, thanks
00:36.37silentiumthe toc is out of date and your wow has "disable old versions" (or something like that) set
00:36.45AeyanAh, yeah, that too
00:36.48CyrezZOMG... The boats have crews, now.
00:37.02JCinDEJust about have TrackerFu ready to upload. yay
00:37.09IamZombieso the Mt Hyjal vendor is giving out free T6 for shammy's
00:37.35Ackisjust for shammy's? :P
00:37.46IamZombieresto shaman
00:37.53kebinusanserious?
00:37.56IamZombieyeah
00:37.57CyrezFree?
00:38.12IamZombiesomeone in the guild vent just said that it's confirmed
00:38.36JCinDEhmm I'm betting they'll disappear out of your bags in a hotfix. heh
00:38.49IamZombieprobably, but they are doing it anyway :P
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00:40.14CIA-403sayclub * r54564 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
00:40.14CIA-4AutoBar :
00:40.14CIA-4- update koKR localization
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00:42.57CIA-403jncl * r54565 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
00:42.57CIA-4Skinner: Added ShieldLeft & Squeenix skins
00:42.57CIA-4- Updated PerlClassic & LightHeaded skins
00:42.57CIA-4- Updated TOC to 20300
00:43.01Mudkipswhoa
00:43.06Mudkipsfree resto shaman lewts?
00:43.07Mudkipshaha
00:43.45Brunersis there a eu and us version of the wowforum?
00:44.28Hotphoenixforums.wow-europe.com
00:44.55Brunersthanks
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00:45.37Ackisso i just spent 1600g on the hippogryph
00:45.40Ackislooks kinda cool
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00:45.49Brunersim so going to get one
00:45.50Mudkipseh
00:45.53Mudkipsi wanted a pink kone
00:45.55Ackisi wanted white though
00:45.56Mudkipsone*
00:45.57Hotphoenixtry landing with it ackis
00:46.26Ackisi can't land lol
00:46.35Ackisor it won't do a walking animation
00:46.56Hotphoenixwas a blue post that they can't walk deliberatly
00:47.14Ackislol
00:47.17Brunersor just a pore excuse for being lazy :P
00:47.22khang_did i hear that i won't be getting this ttracker.lua error? ;o
00:48.47Ackisanyone know if hte new golbin town in dustwallow is a new rep?
00:48.57Hotphoenixnot afaik
00:49.04Ackisaww :(
00:49.14Ackisit could'vebeen exalted faction 36 for me
00:49.32Hotphoenixand i thought i needed to get out more^^
00:49.56Ackismeh i've been off work for almost a year
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00:51.42liquidzo1Is there an Ace2 version of Cartographer that DOESN'T require you to run the install.bat file?
00:51.51Wobworkwhy?
00:51.56Wobworkyou only have to run it once
00:52.03liquidzo1cause I can't run a batch file on linux
00:52.07Wobworkwell
00:52.12IamZombiecause he thinks it's keylogger.bat?
00:52.14Wobworkyou can open the batch file
00:52.14IamZombie:P
00:52.19Wobworkand see what it does
00:52.25Wobworkand do it yourself
00:52.35Wobwork(It's not too complicated...)
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00:52.59liquidzo1and the errors that the other cartographer is having are...annoying to say the least.
00:53.15Zhinjiook, so...
00:53.31Arzach-DB-EUit have been updated in the last 30 mins, seems to work now
00:53.32ZhinjioSharedMedia-1.0, SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-2.0
00:53.37Zhinjiowtf, over.
00:53.38khang_there's a install.bat file?
00:54.23Arzach-DB-EUafaik it's optional, to split the lod modules
00:54.32khang_how do i fix this?
00:54.32khang_[2007/11/13 19:49:42-252-x21]: FuBar_tTracker-0.2\FuBar_tTracker.lua:86: attempt to index global 'MiniMapTrackingFrame' (a nil value)
00:54.32khang_<PROTECTED>
00:54.36Wobworkliquidzo1: Since you're running linux, I expect you can run the standard create dir etc commands?
00:54.48CIA-403zuno * r54566 10UnitActionBars/SpellAction.lua:
00:54.48CIA-4UnitActionBars:
00:54.48CIA-4- Fixed inadvertent reference to "self" in non-instance method.
00:54.50WobworkAnd Arzach-DB-EU: no it's not what we're talking about
00:54.54WobworkThat's the lodbat
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00:55.06Wobworkinstallbat is difference
00:55.06Mudkipsspeaking of linux
00:55.08Wobworker different
00:55.20Mudkipsi just installed gutsy on a p3 today for an internet/email machine
00:55.22NeoTron-ah inspect now include talents
00:55.30MecdemortAnyone know which mod lets you report to raid chat which buffs people are missing for the raid leader?
00:55.34CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r54567 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/SpellAction.lua:
00:55.34CIA-4UnitActionBars:
00:55.34CIA-4- Fixed inadvertent reference to "self" in non-instance method.
00:55.45Mudkipsmost brainless install ever.
00:55.49NeoTronmakes the stuff in rock that shares talents a bit unnecessary
00:56.00WobworkMudkips: s'true
00:56.19MudkipsI'm still waiting for my cd's to come in the mail
00:56.43Hell-Razorjoy... 2.3 fubared glider =/
00:57.01WobworkMudkips: er, 6 month wait or so?
00:57.14WobworkHell-Razor: hooray?
00:57.24WobworkHell-Razor: Perhaps you shouldn't talk about that in here =P
00:57.32IamZombielol
00:57.33Hell-RazorWobwork: meh
00:57.33Mudkipsit was 6 week wait
00:57.50IamZombiewait, so you'll actually have to play the game for a change?
00:57.56NivFreakbotters should be banned
00:58.05NivFreakpay the chinese like everyone else
00:58.16Mudkipsfor what?
00:58.19MudkipsPL'ing?
00:58.23Wobworkgold I guess
00:58.32Mudkipsgold was hard to get?
00:58.36Mudkipsjesus christ
00:58.56Mudkips2 hrs a day on full dailies is at least 140g
00:59.04Arrowmasterliquidzo1: what errors on cartographer?
00:59.11Hell-RazorMudkips: yes my son?
00:59.14kenlyricyou're supposed to pretend like you botting ruins your enjoyment of the game.
00:59.30kenlyricseriously.
00:59.43CIA-403bashui * r54568 10CatPoints/ (CatPoints.lua CatPoints.toc):
00:59.43CIA-4CatPoints:
00:59.43CIA-4- Fixed a bug with set bonus detection
00:59.43CIA-4- Updated toc
00:59.53Mudkipscatpoints?
01:00.55uliclike tank points or AEP or what not
01:01.09Mudkipsheh
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01:02.25kenlyricso now we just wait for hell to drop his toon name and reported!
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01:05.10Hell-Razorand the serv
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01:06.12CIA-403zuno * r54569 10UnitActionBars/ (17 files in 17 dirs):
01:06.12CIA-4UnitActionBars:
01:06.12CIA-4- Updated UI version to 20300
01:06.32NeoTroncan't believe someone would have the nerve to complain that a botting program stopped working.
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01:07.04Synbiosif i have lines through my mods in the updater, does that just mean that they aren't updated for 2.3 yet?
01:07.04CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r54570 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (18 files in 18 dirs):
01:07.04CIA-4UnitActionBars:
01:07.05CIA-4- Updated UI version to 20300
01:07.13Zhinjioso whats the difference between GratuityLib and LibGratuity-3.0 and why are they maintained separately?
01:07.14dan-gWould this be the right place to wonder why my wowaceupdate isnt showing the latest updates?
01:07.20Zhinjioand other examples like that...
01:07.26Zhinjiodo I need them both?
01:07.28Mudkipsholy question zerg badtman
01:07.39IamZombieok, so I mentioned the addons with the strike through, how do I turn that back on?
01:07.57vithosdan-g: there's a 15 minute (i think?) delay before the zips get created
01:08.08khang_can someone rapidshare DBM for me?
01:08.10Hell-RazorZhinjio: i think its simply versions
01:08.47MudkipsDBM...
01:08.55khang_deadly boss mods
01:08.55Mudkipsand rapidshit...
01:09.00MudkipsI know what it is
01:09.12NightHawkTheSaneZhinjio: you should only need the most recent, in this case i believe that's LibGratuity-3.0
01:09.14RaydenUnic"Create AI has been changed to no longer prioritize attacking unfeared targets over feared targets." !!!!! are you serious??
01:09.15khang_okay
01:09.28NightHawkTheSanethey're only separate because gratuity was upgraded and changed its name at some point
01:09.33AntiarcROFL
01:09.35AntiarcROFLFLFLFLF
01:09.41AntiarcResto shammy T6 is currently free.
01:09.43AntiarcNo token cost.
01:09.51khang_no one? :(
01:09.55RaydenUnicthis means fear has been completely changed in dungeons
01:09.56CIA-403dfscott * r54571 10AzuarcLevelGuide/AzuarcLevelGuide.toc:
01:09.57CIA-4AzuarcLevelGuide:
01:09.57CIA-4- Update toc for 2.3
01:10.04NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: so i hear, the vendor for that's actually inside the zone, yeah? >:P
01:10.05CorganAntiarc, I was just loling at the same thing
01:10.07Hell-RazorAntiarc: wha?
01:10.07AntiarcSo any shaman with Hyjal attunement can walk in and get full T6 for free
01:10.12Mudkipsheh
01:10.16Mudkipsits gonna go poof later in your bags
01:10.19AntiarcConfirmed by a guild shaman
01:10.19NightHawkTheSane*cries* wtb hyjal attunement
01:10.20ZhinjioLibGratuity-3.0, 4 days, GratuityLib, 7 hours. so just the more recent one. I'll give that a try.
01:10.22Mudkipsthey're gonna hotfix that asap
01:10.22AntiarcBut yes, likely to poof
01:10.24aestilAntiarc: ping
01:10.26aestilwoah
01:10.28aestilnvm
01:10.31Xinhuanwtf
01:10.33aestilAntiarc: question about threat
01:10.33Zhinjioyou have to admit, it does seem kinda stupid to have both.
01:10.36RaydenUnicat least i get to bug my guildie later for not buying his for free :D
01:10.37AntiarcSure
01:10.46kebinusanyeah thats funny
01:10.57aestilwhen you were making the threat values for mind blast, does it generate more threat than a nomral dmg ability?
01:11.06kebinusanwe just killed kael for the first time last night, two of our non resto shaman were able to confirm
01:11.22NightHawkTheSaneZhinjio: eh, off hand i'd still say libgratuity is 'more recent', but i'm honestly not sure, you really should only need one though, not both.
01:11.29CIA-403maudy * r54572 10ClassColors/ClassColors.toc: ClassColors: Updated TOC for 2.3
01:11.40GnarfozTuller: you misspelled "Ludiwg" at google-code for toc 2.3
01:11.46MudkipsI think blizz was sending a hint to shamans out there
01:11.48Mudkipspssst resto
01:11.58Tulleryay :)
01:12.00NightHawkTheSaneZhinjio: although, now that i give it thought, one could be a rock version and one could be ace2.. >.>
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01:12.02Arzach-DB-EUnn peeps, gonna dream about parch day's nightmares and have a nightmare about being a resto druid and not a resto shammy
01:12.07Mudkipschain heal moar polx
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01:12.10CIA-403kemayo * r54573 10OpenAll/ (OpenAll.lua OpenAll.toc): OpenAll: TOC, multiple items per mail.
01:12.15Teufelhi all
01:12.21NightHawkTheSaneMudkips: but i -am- resto
01:12.25Zhinjiodoes the same logic apply to LibSharedMedia-2.0, SharedMediaLib and SharedMedia-1.0
01:12.35Teufeltauren or night elf?
01:12.40khang_is 3.1 the new version of DBM?
01:12.40Antiarcaestil: No, Mind Blast is 1:1 threat
01:12.45Arzach-DB-EUnext time I go to Old Hillsbrad I wanna send a mail to my mom to remind her to grow me as a shammy....
01:12.46AntiarcIt was 2:1 before 2.0
01:13.05StanzillaNightHawkTheSane: nah LSM 2 is the real successor..it's framework independent (libstub based)
01:13.17NightHawkTheSaneStanzilla: you meant to direct that at Zhinjio
01:13.25StanzillaNightHawkTheSane: that's true :D
01:13.26Brunersis that shamanresto thingie after patch or ?
01:13.28Gnarfozkhang_: BigWigs is the "new version" of DBM *hint hint*
01:13.30Zhinjiook.
01:13.37NeoTronAntiarc: wait they removed the threat penalty on mind blast?
01:13.40ZhinjioI think thats the one I got.
01:13.43AntiarcYes, NeoTron
01:13.43CIA-403kemayo * r54574 10BankStack/BankStack.toc: BankStack: TOC. All else is perfection and kittens and marshmallow fluff.
01:13.46NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: yes.. quite some time ago
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01:13.48khang_my guild makes me use dbm Gnarfoz  :(
01:13.57Mudkipslol that's gimp
01:14.06Gnarfozchoose another guild. or use DBMWTFBBQ or whatever it's called
01:14.27Tehehenot only are you able go to pick up the resto set without tokens, but you can also DE it
01:14.32Mudkipskinda like your guild making you use KTM
01:14.37Mudkipsoooo lawd
01:14.43Teheheour shaman are sitting in Hyjal storming up void crystals... there's no way this can be fixed without a roll-back
01:14.43NeoTronTehehe: zomg
01:14.54MudkipsOMG
01:14.54GnarfozTehehe: lol I wish I was attuned :<
01:14.54NeoTronthey can trace that
01:14.55Hotphoenixlol imba
01:15.01NeoTronthat's exploiting for sure
01:15.03MudkipsDE then sell on AH
01:15.05KemayoOooh, puntative bans.
01:15.05MudkipsGOGOGO
01:15.08NeoTronthey can even get banished for it
01:15.20Gnarfozonly thing they'll ever do is
01:15.27Mudkipsor DE then send mail to some alt
01:15.29Gnarfozdelete items, remove gold made through this
01:15.30Mudkipskek
01:15.31Tehehedoy ou have any idea the number of people this affects?
01:15.36IamZombieit's so widespread right now
01:15.42Gnarfozthey're not banning people for their own stupid mistakes
01:15.45Hotphoenixits only going to harm endgame raiders and since when have they tried to be hard on them
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01:16.36NeoTronGnarfoz: exploit = misuse of accidental game mechanic that obviously is a bug
01:16.44Tehehewhile it may be possible, I really doubt they store enough information in logs to be able to trace back where each void cyrstal was DEed from and whether or not that t6 piece was obtained without a token or not
01:16.48NeoTronpeople are willingly breaking the rules and it's very obvious that they are
01:17.04NightHawkTheSaneTehehe: actually, i wouldn't be surprised if they do
01:17.10RaydenUniclet's talk about the new fear
01:17.12NightHawkTheSanelogging shit like that is cheap, and easy
01:17.39TeheheI'm not sure about cheap
01:17.41KemayoTehehe: I'm sure they track where the crystals came from, and it's pretty easy to notice when someone is sitting by the T6 vendor making stacks of crystals.
01:17.54GnarfozNeoTron: they are breaking what rule? "don't buy that item and DE it"? srsly, blizz are pansys and have not banned for their own mistakes if they have not made stuff like this public themselves and said -not- to do it
01:18.01Tehehestoring that much information for every single item would take a ton of storage, not to mention i/o time
01:18.06NightHawkTheSaneit'd just be text files. they're (relatively) small, easy to compress and backup, and backup disk space is cheap
01:18.12NeoTronGnarfoz: they are knowingly exploiting a bug
01:18.17NeoTronof course they are breaking the rules
01:18.18Gnarfozknowinlgy?
01:18.18Gnarfozhow
01:18.29Gnarfoz"because it's ovious"?
01:18.38NeoTronwho the hell would think it's actual intended behavior to have an infinite source of void crystals and FREE tier 6?
01:18.39Gnarfoz*obvious, damn my typing sucks :p
01:18.45Hotphoenixbecause everyones told them about it?
01:18.45NeoTronyes, it's obvious
01:18.51Teheheyes, it is obviously a bug that they are aware of... I'm sure Blizzard would throw out bans to all of them if it did not have other implications
01:19.08Teufelhey is anyone having any problems with their addons since the new patch? everything is listed out of date obviously but i wondered if there have been any actual problems reported as a result
01:19.09Tehehebut it does, and blizzard isn't going to go and ban 100% of the hyjal attuned shaman population
01:19.12CorganHow many people do you think bought a piece thinking it was a joke
01:19.14KemayoThey certainly have logs that let them restore items you've disenchanted.  My SO de'd all her stuff and closed her account, and six weeks later they restored it all.
01:19.23Corganblizzard isn't going to ban all those people
01:19.33Gnarfozseeing Blizzards history of *not* behaving the way you think they will or would, I'd say the opposite, but I guess that will be fixed before EU realms even go live in 12 hours
01:19.43NeoTronCorgan: buying a piece tot est it is one thing. chain buying them to DE is an entirely different level
01:19.52NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: yeah, i'd bet on that for sure
01:20.01Hotphoenixselect * where itembought = t6 and class = shammy and date > this morning
01:20.03Gnarfozso I can't even try :>
01:20.21NightHawkTheSaneif it makes you feel better, i could, but i'm not attuned. :(
01:20.21NeoTronthey will know who did it
01:20.25TeheheHotphoenix: that will have many false positives
01:20.38NeoTronthey will probably just fix "norma" offenders but ppl that chain-misuse it is another issue
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01:21.00GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: same, I forgot xD have to kill some minor bosses to be attuned... *cough*
01:21.02SaranaYeah they obviously have DE logs, I've known friends  that have had stuff restored that was DE'ed... though only recently DE'ed stuff. So I guess they prune at a certain point.
01:21.17Kemayoselect count(*) from itembought where item=t6 and class=shaman group by player. :P
01:21.43Hotphoenixit wouldn't be hard to filter out chars that had t6 tokens on them
01:22.20Wobworkwell
01:22.24Wobworkit doesn't cost tokens
01:22.30Gnarfozinteresting bug for sure. I missed the beginning of this just now: is it just shaman resto t6 from the horde/alliance/neutral (not attuned so what do I know) vendor?
01:22.32Wobworkatm =)
01:22.42Kerafyrmanyone have a fix for librock?
01:22.57Gnarfozyeah, which is why it would be easy to filter against "people who actually HAD tokens" - all the other ones were cheating ;)
01:23.23winkillermeh, isn't there a way for grid to automatically adjust the display size to raid size?
01:23.25NightHawkTheSanewell, evne people with tokens can abuse it. :P
01:23.35NightHawkTheSanebut seeing how -many- people bought is prety easy
01:24.06Teufelwouldnt a simple logical fix just be to limit the number that a person could buy of the same item?
01:24.18SaranaIs Zuno here? UnitActionBars/SpellAction.lua line 30 has a bug. I assume it's supposed to be "if spellName == text then" instead of "if spellName == self.text then".
01:24.45GnarfozTeufel: no, you could legitimately obtain several token items and buy several piece
01:24.52NightHawkTheSaneTeufel: that's a solution, but not necessarily the solution blizzard wants. they probably don't have any issue with you (legally) buying several of the same piece
01:25.10NeoTronTeufel: a logical fix would be to make the items cost tokens...
01:25.16NightHawkTheSane^^
01:25.24Teufelim sorried i just joined the chat a few minutes ago..whats the illegal issue to this problem?
01:25.31NeoTronand yes, it's very possible you might want to buy two of the same items
01:25.32khang_i have 5/115 in my buggrabber ;o
01:25.35NightHawkTheSaneTeufel: t6 resto shammy loot is currently free. ;)
01:25.42NeoTronfor example having a backup head piece to put shadow resist on etc
01:26.10LetheKai|AFKSorry for the newb question, but is there something I can do to make OmniCC work with 2.3 on my own? It's not working atm.
01:26.18GnarfozLetheKai|AFK: yes, update!
01:26.22Tulleryes, update :)
01:26.23cturnerLetheKai|AFK: mine works for me -- update?
01:26.24TeufelNightHawkTheSane: ty
01:26.34Zhinjioc03lanth
01:26.49LetheKai|AFKErr it's not on Ace is it? I did a search for it on another site earlier and it hadn't been updated in ages.
01:26.57LetheKai|AFKGuess I'll look again.
01:26.59GnarfozLetheKai|AFK: http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/downloads/detail?name=OmniCCÊ.0.7.zip
01:27.00_raneare 2.3 addons backwards compatible?
01:27.04NightHawkTheSaneLetheKai|AFK: ... check wowi?
01:27.06Gnarfozoh
01:27.08LetheKai|AFKWowi?
01:27.14NightHawkTheSanewowinterface.com
01:27.15GnarfozLetheKai|AFK: nevermind, my IRC client messed that link up :)
01:27.16LetheKai|AFKThanks Gnarfoz.
01:27.16Teufelwowwiki
01:27.19LetheKai|AFKOh.
01:27.20Gnarfozhttp://code.google.com/p/tullamods/downloads/detail?name=OmniCC%202.0.7.zip
01:27.24Gnarfozthis one should work
01:27.25Gnarfoz;)
01:27.30khang_xchat ftw ;o
01:27.37Gnarfozkhang_: yeah :<
01:27.40Teufelis this t6 resto bug resulting from the new patch?
01:27.49NightHawkTheSaneindeed
01:27.53khang_silverex.org
01:27.54khang_;o
01:27.57Teufelhaha nice
01:28.01Gnarfozkhang_: it's what I run
01:28.14LetheKai|AFKThanks for the link.  =D
01:28.18khang_the silverex one i don't like
01:28.18CIA-403nayala * r54575 10Baggins_ClosetGnome/Baggins_ClosetGnome.toc: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Update to 2.3
01:28.24khang_the taskbar manager doesn't work :(
01:28.25Gnarfozactually it isn't, I run an old daemon404 one, it seems
01:28.28khang_tray icon*
01:28.31Gnarfozdidn't even know ^^
01:28.33khang_i use some sergio one
01:28.38CIA-403nayala * r54576 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.toc: Baggins_ItemRack: Update to 2.3
01:28.46NightHawkTheSanekhang_: it's also got fucked up copy/paste code. ><
01:28.52Teheheyou know, even if it is possible to track down all the void crystals to illegit sources, it has already been a few hours and i'm sure a lot of has already been liquidated and changing hands through the market
01:28.55Teheheas well as used for enchants
01:28.56khang_NightHawkTheSane, ?
01:28.57GnarfozI only connect to my irssi-proxy on my root server anyway, so...
01:29.02Tehehea rollback is really the only option i can see
01:29.13CIA-403nayala * r54578 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.toc: Baggins_Usable: Update to 2.3
01:29.13Teufelare any of the Ace addons reporting problems from the new patch, only ones i've had problems with were CT based which they've already corrected
01:29.19NightHawkTheSanekhang_: if i ctrl-c in other apps, it doesn't always ctrl-v properly in the silverex build of xchat
01:29.25KemayoGnarfoz: What's the advantage irssi-proxy over irssi in screen?
01:29.31SaranaWow, I was expecting CIA to be behind... with the normal SVN load. Only a few seconds behind my commits.
01:29.41Teufelmore importantly i assume, what addons have been updated since patch
01:29.41CIA-403nayala * r54579 10ClosetGnome_ItemRack/ClosetGnome_ItemRack.toc: ClosetGnome_ItemRack: Update to 2.3
01:29.44khang_NightHawkTheSane, ah yeah i got that
01:29.53khang_that's why i use this sergio one :)
01:30.01CIA-403kemayo * r54580 10SimpleTradeskill/SimpleTradeskill.toc: SimpleTradeskill: 20200 is dead! Long live 20300!
01:30.05GnarfozKemayo: I'm on windows, I'd have to have that screened irssi (which it is, ont he server anyway) inside PuTTY
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01:30.42KemayoGnarfoz: What's so bad about that? :D
01:31.01NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: some of us like our guis ;)
01:31.02Gnarfozsluggish redraws
01:31.17KemayoGnarfoz: I don't have that problem. And NightHawkTheSane is a wuss.
01:31.23NightHawkTheSanei am
01:31.32NightHawkTheSanei'm a mac-using, gui-loving, pansy
01:31.39KerafyrmCan someone help me out with..
01:31.40Kerafyrmhttp://ace.pastey.net/77129
01:31.49Kerafyrmgrabbed newest downloads from files.
01:31.53Kerafyrmbut it persists
01:32.36Gnarfozit's not like I have some big latency to my server, it's only about 20ms away, but... the bigger I resize the terminal window, the more data it seems to transmit (why ever it does full redraws instead of just changing stuff)... a local client just fits in better =)
01:32.59CIA-403nayala * r54581 10/tags/Baggins_Professions/: Baggins_Professions: Prep for tagging
01:33.48Teufelspeaking of latency
01:33.52Teufelis there any addon that will keep the regular latency bar in WoW. or some equivalent to it
01:34.20Teufelkinda helpful playing midwest/west coast servers from germany
01:34.32RaydenUnicis it up
01:34.34SaranaFuBar_PerformanceFu shows latency.
01:34.34RaydenUnic?
01:34.43erbteufel: fu_performanceFU
01:34.46erbyah
01:34.47RaydenUnici haven't looked in about 5 hours
01:34.57HotphoenixTeufel recount has a graph if thats what your after
01:35.20NightHawkTheSanedammit, blizzard broke my shifting macros. ><
01:35.21TeufelRaydenUnic: wus that to me?
01:35.26RaydenUnicline out on the WAU means hasn't been updated?
01:35.30Gnarfozthat's kind of overkill^^ performancefu should do fine, if he has fubar ;)
01:35.36RaydenUnicTeufel a general question on the state of the WoW servers
01:35.52erbQuartz is good to display actual cast latency
01:35.59Teufeloh i dont play on the EU servers if thats wut ur asking
01:36.04RaydenUnicno
01:36.08RaydenUnici wasn't referring to anything
01:36.13RaydenUnici just wanted to know if the servers are up
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01:36.19RaydenUniclast time i checked, 5 hours ago, they were down
01:36.24Etern|gone'UnitBuff(unit, buffId)' where 'unit' is an exact name works for unit is the exact name for my character. Will it work if unit is the exact name of a member of my group?
01:36.25Teufelyea i just signed on a few minutes ago
01:36.31Synbioswould someone please PM me with why on the updater there are lines through certin mods of mine?
01:36.36TeufelUnderbog is up at least
01:36.40Teufellow pop server
01:36.46Synbiosunderbog just crashed lol
01:36.58Teufelwhats wrong with the servers?
01:37.03Synbiosno idea
01:37.12PaeneSynbios: It means that the mod hasn't been updated for 2.3
01:37.13Synbiosin the middle of heroic ramp for the daily and the server just went down
01:37.19Synbiosthank you paene
01:37.28Teufeloh and to the comments about the latency, i have Fubar, is PerformanceFu just an additional addon that works ontop of it
01:37.43CIA-403nayala 072007-11-13 * r54582 10Baggins_ClosetGnome/: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Tag 2007-11-13 (WoW 2.3) version
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01:38.22CIA-403nayala 072007-11-13 * r54584 10Baggins_Professions/: Baggins_Professions: Tag 2007-11-13 (WoW 2.3) version
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01:39.03Hotphoenixeu servers going down in 15mins
01:39.52xerawxpatch notes say it supports multi-cores, but from the look of it that should say dual cores
01:39.52Teufelthe World of Warcraft has come to an end
01:39.55Teufellike a global plague
01:40.23buuWe're all doomed!
01:40.25xerawxalthough my fps does seem to stay more stable in hectic bg situations
01:40.34WobworkTehehe: http://www.wowblues.com/us/shaman-tier-6-bug-notice-2856203986.html
01:40.47Wobworkand anyone else who knows about someone abusing the T6 issue
01:40.51GagorianNightHawkTheSane: Well not the newest adjustment. I'll need the coeffs for that.
01:40.59GagorianI only did the initial 2.3 coefficients
01:41.03GagorianThen they changed em again
01:41.05NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: thats what i was wondering
01:41.13GagorianYar
01:41.22NightHawkTheSanei could probably test that if i had a good method to.
01:41.38GagorianWell need someone to test it cause they (from what I can understand) aren't any standard
01:41.58colabeanwhere do u get WAU 2.0?
01:42.16Paene!WAU 2.0
01:42.16NightHawkTheSanewell, i mean, i just don't know (off hand at least) even how to go about testing that, so. :P
01:42.16Paeneer
01:42.16GagorianWell, you could just load up newest drdamage and see how much the damage range you get against mobs differs from DrDamage calculated damage range
01:42.18ulic~wau2
01:42.19purlwau2 is, like, http://wowace.com/wau2
01:42.22Paenety
01:42.32Gagorianthen knowing your final coefficient and spelldamage you can calculate how much the spelldamage coefficient is off
01:42.40Teufelcan someone give me a link for PerformanceFu, i cant find itfor some reason
01:42.43GagorianSo just spam loads of the same rank spell to get the spell range
01:42.47Gagorianminimum and maximum damage
01:42.49colabeanWAU is java? not a program?
01:43.43Teufelwait nvm got it
01:43.51GagorianNightHawkTheSane: I can even calculate it if you just get the damage range with your spell, then tell me the damage range drdamage states, the final coefficient and your spelldamage from the tooltip
01:44.24NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: ill see if i can get a moment to do that then
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01:44.39JCinDENevcairiel you awake?
01:44.51GagorianNightHawkTheSane: It can take 100's of casts though :p
01:45.00GagorianThe range should be about as big as the current range
01:45.12NightHawkTheSaneGagorian: eh, i'll stick on my resto gear, find dr boom, and hope i don't get ganked.
01:45.33Gagorianas in if the tooltip says 1000-1100 you should get values that are about 100 from eachother
01:45.42GagorianWell, the more spelldamage you have the better the accuracy
01:45.46Gagorianso put maximum you can on
01:45.52NightHawkTheSanehm, true.
01:46.09CIA-403paene * r54586 10Cryolysis2/sounds/ (. Pig01.mp3 Pig02.mp3 Sheep01.mp3 Sheep02.mp3):
01:46.09CIA-4Cryolysis2:
01:46.09CIA-4-Import of polymorph sound files
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01:47.17CIA-4FuBar_TrackerFu
01:47.17CIA-4- Updated for 2.3
01:47.57hyperChipmunkis it just me, or can hunters no longer freeze trap multiple targets?
01:48.09vithosi'll go try
01:48.10WobworkO.O
01:48.17WobworkThat's a horrible nerf
01:48.20Wobworkif true
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01:49.33vithosit is.
01:49.37NightHawkTheSaneits probably true
01:49.44Zhinjiodoes anyone have pitbull working?
01:49.44vithosthe first trap breaks when the second trap comes up
01:49.48NightHawkTheSaneit really could never have been intended
01:49.48Zhinjioor is it borked for now?
01:49.49vithosi mean, not comes up
01:49.54vithoswhen the 2nd mob gets trapped
01:49.56WobworkThat... really sucks
01:50.00hyperChipmunkthat entirely destroyys me
01:50.02NightHawkTheSaneZhinjio: working flawelessly for me
01:50.07Zhinjiohmm.
01:50.07RaydenUnicwhy were hunters able to CC more than one guy before?
01:50.07NeoTronsounds like a bugfix
01:50.08Wobworkreally really really sucks
01:50.13RaydenUnicno one else can do that
01:50.20NeoTron"omg a bug got fixed QQ"
01:50.21Zhinjioall the frames are just dark grey blocks with nothing in them.
01:50.26Zhinjiogonna play with it a abit
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01:50.35WobworkIt's never been considered a bug
01:50.43Wobworkmerely an ability of a hunter
01:50.47NeoTronccing more than one thing at a time with the same spell is not intended
01:50.48vithostraps are a bit different from normal cc
01:50.49JCinDEthere was a bug with many if not all types of CC that let it be on more than one target. They're all fixed.
01:50.57Wobworktraps are different from normal CC
01:51.02RaydenUnichow so?
01:51.22TeufelUnderbog is back up
01:51.24hyperChipmunkcooldown
01:51.25Teufeljust signed on
01:51.29hyperChipmunknontargettability
01:51.31Wobworknon-direct
01:51.31vithoscooldown/not targetted
01:51.33JCinDEto have two things trapped? I disagree.
01:51.44Teufeloh and thanx for the PerformanceFu tip all. works great
01:51.45vithostraps already sucked ass
01:51.48hyperChipmunkyou can't KEEP two trapped
01:52.01WobworkYou have... maybe 5 seconds of dual trap
01:52.10Wobworkbit more?
01:52.14Zhinjioaha.
01:52.15Zhinjioheh
01:52.20hyperChipmunkat the start of the fight you can do it
01:52.23Zhinjiofor some reason, ALL the pitbull modules got disabled.
01:52.25Zhinjiowhacky
01:52.33hyperChipmunkwait until cooldown before pulling
01:52.34Wobworkwell you can trap three
01:52.38Wobworkessentially
01:52.44Wobworkit doesn't do you much good, however =P
01:52.49Wobworkwith talents
01:52.52hyperChipmunkbut once that drops, you have to pick one
01:52.55hyperChipmunkor use readiness
01:53.02hyperChipmunkbut that really takes a lot away from readiness
01:53.41vithosheh yeah
01:53.44vithosthat sucks for readiness.
01:53.56hyperChipmunkmy character is built around multiple CC
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01:54.13RaydenUnicmy character is built around dying if i have to fight more than 3 guys at once
01:54.17hyperChipmunkall trap reduction stuff, wyvsting, readiness, tons of tanking ability
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01:54.36hyperChipmunkmy job in instances is to basically neutralize everything but one target while the group kills it
01:54.38NeoTrontakes a lot of guts to complain about a bugfix as a hunter considering your signifiany buffs in the patch
01:55.04Wobworker?
01:55.06RaydenUnicshadowpriests didn't really get touched at all this patch
01:55.08Wobworkwtf?
01:55.19WobworkNo, this is not a bugfix
01:55.20Wobworkit's a bug
01:55.29NeoTronmulti-target CC is not a feature of any class
01:55.33hyperChipmunknot really, since my usefulness got turned on its head
01:55.34NeoTronwhy should it be a feature of a hunter?
01:55.40Wobworkwhy not?
01:55.42vithostraps were the worst CC in the game.
01:55.52vithosthey didn't need nerfed
01:55.52RaydenUnici disagree
01:55.55hyperChipmunkmarksmanship hunters geting mortal strike does not alleviate that in any way
01:55.58RaydenUnicit works on more things than shackle or banish
01:56.15WobworkI too disagree on that. Traps are the most versatile
01:56.31WobworkThey just take skill, timing and space to use effectively
01:56.51NeoTronhyperChipmunk: deadzone change doesn't affect you at all? are you a melee hunter perhaps?
01:56.57Wobworkmunter =P
01:57.15hyperChipmunkit helps me a lot; so does instant wyvsting
01:57.25NightHawkTheSaneWobwork: regardles of your opinions, i'd bet good money blizzards position is that the ability to trap multiple creatures at the same time was never an intended mechanic.
01:57.30hyperChipmunkbut i'd give them all back for the ability to trap my targets
01:57.36hyperChipmunkand then some
01:58.05vithosi wouldn't, i never trap multiple targets
01:58.08RaydenUnici'm still waiting for my aoe dot
01:58.09RaydenUnic:D
01:58.10vithosno deadzone is awesome
01:58.26vithosbut i seriously doubt they just now realized we can trap multiple targets
01:58.30Wobworkit's true
01:58.34kebinusanbleh my fps in raids is ass atm
01:58.38Teufelwhat classes have mortal strike anyway
01:58.42RaydenUnicyeah but how often has blizzard waited forever to fix something?
01:58.52Wobworkthat ability has been around longer than any of the other "multicc" bugs
01:58.53NeoTronvithos: why? 2.2 I think fixed additional "accidental dual CC" bugs I believe
01:58.55RaydenUnicanother fix this patch was removing the plate-cape from the auction house
01:58.58xerawxi'm tempted to waste my free respec on my new hunter just to try out mortal shot.. or i supposed i could ressurect my old 60 hunter on whatever realm that was ..
01:58.58NeoTronand more fixed in previous builds
01:59.01RaydenUnicthink they JUST noticed that?
01:59.04NightHawkTheSaneTeufel: warriors, hunters, rogues, and i think troll priests
01:59.13Wobworkplate-cape?
01:59.16khang_:O we can trap multiple targets?
01:59.19Hotphoenixmages originally were going to have 'chains of ice' that could cc multiple mobs at once but it was found that you just needed a mage and you only had to fight 1 mob at a time in any instance
01:59.20RaydenUnicmortal strike?
01:59.22RaydenUnicwhat is that?
01:59.29NeoTronback in the good old days there were cloth, leather, mail and playte capes
01:59.33NeoTroncloaks rather
01:59.39NeoTronI don't know if this was just beta or retail though
01:59.43xerawxmortal shot as in new aimed shot
01:59.52RaydenUnictroll priests have this?
01:59.56RaydenUnici'm unfamiliar with it
01:59.59TeufelWobwork: it was one of the categories in the armor section of the AH
02:00.00NightHawkTheSanewell, its hex of weakness
02:00.03NightHawkTheSanereduces healing effectivness by 20%
02:00.09NightHawkTheSanesame effect style
02:00.11Teufeluseless since there is no such thing as a plate cape
02:00.17Teufelcloak rather
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02:00.45TeufelRaydenUnic: its basically an anti-warlock ability, lol
02:01.06RaydenUnici heard it caused a boss to respawn with 20% health :P
02:01.09RaydenUnicthat was quickly fixed
02:01.20RaydenUnici never use it
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02:01.34WobworkCircle of Blood?
02:01.35RaydenUnicnow if it worked like shadowguard and applied to whoever attacked me, then i'd use it
02:01.47Teufeli dont know what it actually does aside from affecting the siphon life and drain life abilities of warlocks
02:01.50Arrowmasterit was al'ar and he would start phase2 with 80% health instead of 100%
02:01.57Wobworkah al'ar =P
02:02.02RaydenUnicTeufel i think if you get healed it affects that
02:02.50Teufelpossibly, i just know that its basically designed (in the new patch) as a debuff on warlocks
02:03.04RaydenUnicthey changed it?
02:03.11WobworkSo what's this about arcane shot removing shadowform? =)
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02:03.16RaydenUnicwhat?
02:03.27WobworkI hear it's possible under certain circumstances
02:03.30Arrowmasterno way
02:03.34Wobwork(although I don't know what circumstances)
02:03.41NightHawkTheSaneo_0
02:03.46Teufelwell i think they might have added the warlock affect in the new patch Ray
02:03.48RaydenUnicthat is an unfortunate bug
02:03.49Arrowmasterunless its dispell is broken some how since it should only remove magic effects
02:04.08Teufelother than that i really dont know much about the mortal strike base ability prior to the patch, never played one of those classes
02:04.37Arrowmasterits 50% healing reduction
02:05.02Teufelcan it be removed or is it like a bleed effect?
02:05.14NightHawkTheSanemortal strike/mortal shot are physical effects
02:05.21Teufelgotcha
02:05.35NightHawkTheSanewound poison is a poisoin, obviously
02:05.38RaydenUnicso define mortal strike
02:05.39NightHawkTheSaneand i think hex of weakness is a magic effect
02:05.40RaydenUnicit's a type of spell?
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02:05.48NightHawkTheSane"Mortal Strike" is a warrior talent ability.
02:06.02RaydenUnicso what does that have to do with a troll priest racial spell?
02:06.05NightHawkTheSaneinstant attack deals wepaon damage +some, and causes the mortal strike effect, as Arrowmaster noted
02:06.21hyperChipmunk"mortal strike effect" being one that reduces healing on yoru target
02:06.22Teufelpoisons can be removed though from potions and druids, so its a bitch different than mortal strike
02:06.27NightHawkTheSanehex of weakness also causes a 20% healing reduction
02:06.31NightHawkTheSanesimilar healing reduction effect
02:06.33RaydenUnicoh ok
02:07.01Arrowmasterthe orc racial blood fury also puts a similair debuff on yourself
02:07.15Teufelgod i hate druids, basically abandoned my 70 NE druid cuz i grew so aggrevated with the class
02:07.56RaydenUnicalright let's see if destromath is up and how many of my mods are broken
02:08.34TeufelArrowmaster: does blood fury increase melee damage?
02:08.46Arrowmasterdepends on the class
02:09.10Teufelwell spell damage then for casters
02:09.37NightHawkTheSaneyes
02:09.43Teufelk
02:09.47xerawxi abandoned my druid at 60 right before 2.0.. the buffs were a bit tempting but i knew it was going to remain a roller coaster class
02:09.59Teufelexactly
02:10.08Teufeli've respeced like 5 times
02:10.24Sarana<PROTECTED>
02:10.52kaiden^Anyone know of a tool that i can feed 2 folders of files and it will compare them
02:10.57kaiden^and tell me what all is different
02:11.02Teufeli cant believe they made it the worst healing class after being the best for such a long time
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02:11.10Teufelthats the problem with hybrid classes
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02:11.15RaydenUnicwow is bartender screwed up
02:11.20RaydenUnicoh it's sort of better now...
02:11.29xerawxmy bt3 seems to work fine..
02:11.29Arrowmastermy bartender3 is fine
02:12.09Arrowmasterdid the dev svn go down?
02:12.15RaydenUnicso one of my normal blizzard bars is displaying
02:12.28SaranaKaiden, if you use a CLI, something like gnu diff is nice. diff -U3 -r dir1 dir2. For GUI diffs though not sure.
02:12.39Teufelcould be something in the interface menu
02:12.42RaydenUnichow do i make the blizzard bars not display?
02:12.51Teufelinterface menu shoudl do it
02:13.02Teufelmake sure the action bars arent enabled
02:13.07RaydenUnicthere we go
02:13.19Teufelworked?
02:13.32RaydenUnicyeah
02:13.59RaydenUnicHex of Weakness Rank 7: Reducing damage caused by 35 and reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 20%.
02:14.13Teufelwhat class is that?
02:14.20NightHawkTheSanetroll priestracial
02:14.32RaydenUnicwhere is fear ward?
02:14.54Teufelbloody trolls, horrid creatures
02:15.06Teufellike a whole race of Bob Marleys
02:15.07RaydenUnictrolls are noble
02:15.17Corganblahaha
02:15.24RaydenUnici should add berserking to my rotation
02:15.27khang_how do i stop tracking
02:15.30khang_if i dont have that trackign button
02:16.17ulicset it to none
02:16.22Wobworkps rolling lifebloom makes druid healing hax
02:16.28RaydenUnici'm supposed to have Fear Ward am i not?
02:16.31Wobworkand by hax I mean omg cool
02:16.36WobworkRaydenUnic: could be trainable
02:16.39RaydenUnicoh
02:16.40RaydenUnicright
02:17.01Teufelyea lifebloom works great in instances for low threat heals
02:17.12Wobworkespecially trinketed lifebloom
02:17.25CorganI should get some resto gear @_@
02:17.29Teufelnever found one for lifebloom
02:17.38Wobworkwell no, anything that has +heal
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02:17.51Wobworkso you buff up completely as much as possible, lifebloom
02:17.57Wobworkand keep it up the entire fight
02:17.57Kaeltenwe got any EU people alive at this unseemly hour
02:17.58Kaelten?
02:18.09Wobworkand it takes the original starting +heal the whole time
02:18.15Neolithicso.....how do I stop the gratuity-2.0 errors?
02:18.21Corganorly wob?
02:18.22Teufeli live in Germany if thats wut u mean, but am on US servers
02:18.25Corganthat's hax
02:18.31Wobworkthat's what I said =)
02:18.39Corganlike, wow, that's awesome
02:18.45RaydenUniccan you have 2 fear wards up at a time?
02:19.00KaeltenTeufel: assuming your on EU bandwith though you'll work could you hit www.curse.com and tell me how its behaving connection wise :)
02:19.02WobworkRaydenUnic: hehe There has never been two dwarf priests in a raid to try that =)
02:19.09RaydenUnicno
02:19.13ArrowmasterNeolithic: are you using bugsack?
02:19.13RaydenUniccan one person?
02:19.16Wobworkno
02:19.18RaydenUnicwhat's the cooldown on casting the spell?
02:19.19Wobworkcooldown prevents that
02:19.25RaydenUnicit's 3min?
02:19.26khang_ulic, set what to none?
02:19.27Wobworkcooldown is like 3 minutes?
02:19.28Kerafyrmwow
02:19.32Wobworkyeah, they nerfed that =)
02:19.33NeolithicI don't wanna HIDE the LUA errors...I want to try to fix them
02:19.36ulickhang_: your tracking option
02:19.36KerafyrmCTRaid Assist is spamming the taint log like crazy
02:19.37Kerafyrmlol
02:19.38Wobworkand gave it to everyone
02:19.47KaeltenAny people in the EU could hit www.curse.com and tell me how the connection goes i'd appriciate it
02:19.48ulickhang_: you have a list of things to choose from, the last is None
02:19.52khang_i dont even have a list
02:19.55khang_or that button :(
02:19.58Neolithicwhat got me, is that it is coming from an addod, that supposidely was updated to 2.3
02:20.06ArrowmasterNeolithic: and i want to know what the error even is otherwise its impossible for me to even attempt to fix it
02:20.14RaydenUnicsimple self rebuff needs to add fear ward
02:20.14TeufelKaelten: anything specific u want me to look for
02:20.17ulickhang_: oh maybe you have an addon that hides it, like EBB
02:20.18Teufelloads fine so far
02:20.20Neolithicuno momento :)
02:20.21Kaeltenjust load speed
02:20.25Kaeltenconnection speed things like that
02:20.41RaydenUnici'm pleasantly surprised. i'm not noticing any horribly broken mods
02:20.44smoke_is um
02:20.47ArrowmasterKerafyrm: all CT mods have been known to be completely broken with the amount of taint they cause since 2.0 came out
02:21.14TeufelKaelten: cant give you numbers but yea its working fine, very fast, faster than worldofwarcraft.com is for me
02:21.20smoke_the GCD light thing for quartz is kinda bugged right now on 2.3, can it/will it be fixed?
02:21.22Teufelthat takes forever over here
02:21.56KerafyrmArrowmaster: Didn't know that..
02:22.01Arrowmastersmoke_: the little gcd spark that moves across the castingbar?
02:22.06Neolithicerror:  \libs\aceevent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:735: Gratuity-2.0: attempt to call a nil value
02:22.06AntiarcThis shaman bug is one of the funniest Blizzard has had to date.
02:22.11WobworkKaelten: I can say it takes ... 10 seconds to fully initally load here in oz
02:22.11Kerafyrmfound out that metahud's ToT functions are tainting too
02:22.13khang_ulic, you're right
02:22.15Neolithicin this case it's in cartographer
02:22.20khang_ulic, but then squeenix won't let me see it :(
02:22.27Neolithicbut it's also in all my ACE2 mods
02:22.31Toadkillerer so whats the real WAU location to dl from?  wwace.com.wau2 or something?
02:22.42Kaeltenwww.wowace.com/wau and /wau2
02:22.45ArrowmasterNeolithic: you ingame right now?
02:22.49Neolithicyes
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02:23.17TeufelWobwork: Oz = Aussie?
02:23.17StanzillaKaelten: loads pretty fast (curse.com)
02:23.17NeolithicI did goto the wowace site and DL the standalone gratuity library
02:23.31Neolithicdidn't seem to help
02:23.49ArrowmasterNeolithic: copy and paste this into game and tell me what it says in your chatlog /print AceLibrary("Gratuity-2.0"):GetLibraryVersion()
02:23.55WobworkTeufel: aye
02:24.13khang_is there a difference between the DLed one and the java?:
02:24.15Neolithic52819
02:24.33Teufelnice, how do you feel about F1 possibly losing Albert Park (melbourne race)
02:24.41Arrowmaster52819.... wtf
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02:24.52xerawxdamn it feels nice to mow down a mage who thinks he can frost nova me and stand in the deadzone still
02:25.20xerawxthat won't last long though
02:25.21NeolithicI R perplexed at your answer :)
02:25.28ArrowmasterNeolithic: you said you downloaded it from files.wowace.com too and it didnt help?
02:25.40NeolithicI went through wowwiki but
02:25.46Teufelthe servers are probably down so people cant take advantage of the shammy bug
02:25.52Teufellol, if only life worked that way
02:26.01NeolithicI didn't get the mods from there
02:26.05NeolithicI was using curse
02:26.23CIA-403kemayo * r54588 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
02:26.23CIA-4FuBar_QuestsFu:
02:26.23CIA-4-TOC IS 20300. TRUST ME.
02:26.23CIA-4-Blizz: GetActiveQuests/GetAvailableQuests now return triplets.
02:26.32Arrowmastertry downloading the gratuitylib mod from files.wowace.com
02:26.38NeolithicI did that
02:26.47NeolithicI'm gunna try getting the mods themselves from there
02:27.45smoke_arrowmaster, yeah the gcd spark
02:27.57Arrowmastersmoke_: whats wrong with it?
02:28.00smoke_arrowmaster, since i removeed all my /stopcasting macros, i spam my fireball button now
02:28.06smoke_and it resets the gcd spark in quartz
02:28.11smoke_before the fireball finishes
02:28.22Arrowmasterthats because your gcd is being triggered
02:28.25smoke_so its kinda not working correctly if u spam the button i dont know if nymbia can implement a fix for that
02:28.32Arrowmasterno fix possible
02:28.36Arrowmasterdont spam the button
02:28.36smoke_hmm k
02:28.52Arrowmasterbecause it really is the gcd
02:29.07NightHawkTheSanehah
02:33.41RaydenUnicno fire mote/primal on the AH. that's dumb
02:34.18SaranaFYI. AddonLoader doesn't seem to do checking on the X-LoadOn-Hooks toc data to see if the functions listed can actually be hooked. I've posted a suggested fix to the AddonLoader thread on the wowace forums. The actual source of the error appears to be Capping trying to hook WorldStateFrame_ToggleMinimap
02:34.49CIA-403scorpion * r54589 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
02:34.49CIA-4AutoBar :
02:34.49CIA-4- update zhTW localization
02:34.49CIA-4- update zhCN localization
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02:41.34ArrowmasterSarana: solution is to update capping since somebody fixed the toc
02:41.39Teufelhey is there any reason to have Conflagerate on Warlocks since immolate has such a high threat lvl, i mean i guess it makes sense for pvp
02:41.56Arrowmasterimmolate doesnt have a high threat level
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02:42.14SaranaAye... but it might be good to fix AddonLoader to indicate the source of such errors in the future.
02:42.27KemayoOh, I am *loving* this questgivers-on-minimap thing.
02:42.32sdoubleno doubt
02:42.43NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: in. deed.
02:43.29TeufelArrowmaster: yes it does, even says so in the tooltip
02:43.37NightHawkTheSaneimmolate?
02:43.49Arrowmasterthats searing pain not immolate
02:43.51SaranaAlso unless I'm fetching from a bad mirror still seeing the identical version of Capping and it's TOC from svn.wowace.com
02:44.13NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27215 <-- immolate
02:44.15Arrowmasterthere are no mirrors of the svn server
02:44.23Arrowmasterwell i thought somebody updated it
02:44.40SaranaI know there used to be 2 SVN servers that synced from each other. Guess that got changed.
02:45.01Teufelboth searing pain and immolate have high threat levels
02:45.10buuTeufel: Immolate does not.
02:45.17buuSearing Pain has extra threat.
02:45.37Sarana((Though it could be I'm thinking of another CMS... I work with too many of them to keep track sometimes.))
02:47.00Teufelwait ur right sorry
02:47.02Teufeljust checked it
02:47.09Teufelgot my fire spells mixed up it seems
02:47.45buu(Searing pain does 2x threat as far as I know )
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02:48.48Teufelare you the real Majin Buu?
02:48.55AntiarcSearing Pain is double threat, yes
02:48.57Teufelpink blobby guy
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02:49.54Teufeli only use searing pain in instances and pvp. not safe for regular pve
02:50.06AntiarcIt's great if the warlock needs to tank
02:50.14AntiarcLeotheras, Kael, etc
02:50.49Teufelive actually never run those raids, wuts the strategy behind these mage and warlock tank tactics i've heard about?
02:51.02TNSecaster vs caster :P
02:51.19TNSewarlock: soul link, high threat via searing pain and shitload of hp
02:51.25AntiarcYou have a mob that just casts fire spells. Warlocks have high HP, a double threat spell, and high resists
02:51.28TNSemage: spell stealing something to benefit tanking
02:51.57Ellipsishmm
02:52.00TNSeand yeah, bonus resistances
02:52.02Ellipsiswhat kind of spec does a lock tank use?
02:52.08Ellipsisbesides SL/MD
02:52.10TNSecan be anything
02:52.11AntiarcSoul Link if you're having problems
02:52.13AntiarcOtherwise, whatever.
02:52.23TNSeoften destro with a shitload of resistance/hp is beneficial
02:52.24Teufelwell warlock is mainly just shadow resistance with shadow ward
02:52.27TNSelike 0/21/40
02:52.37RaydenUnicdoes the zepellig to UC from Org take less time now?
02:52.39TNSeinsane threat generation there :P
02:52.50Arrowmasteri use 3/37/21 spec when tanking leo
02:53.06TNSefor leo you want to have fel puppy out for extra resistance
02:53.16TNSethere is no exact answer, because you can do it several ways
02:53.33TNSewe even used a warrior tank on leo :P
02:53.58TNSebut to answer the question
02:54.15TNSelock/mage tanking is normally due to it being a caster boss
02:54.16TNSeor mob
02:55.28Teufelcan u use either one, so long as they have the right resistances?
02:55.46NightHawkTheSanedepends on the boss
02:56.05AntiarcYou use a mage if you need spellsteal, lock otherwise.
02:56.20TNSeI've tanked on kael'thas
02:56.22TNSeas shadow priest
02:56.26AntiarcSince mages have way less HP than locks, and don't have a spell specific for tanking
02:56.26TNSethe caster add
02:56.34TNSeits just that you mitigate via other means :P
02:56.49NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: and don't have talents/pets to give themselves killer resists..
02:56.58TNSenormally warriors, paladins and druids tank via armor, hitpoints and avoidance
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02:57.22TNSewhen you tank a caster, you tank via resistances and hitpoints
02:57.29TNSeand some other talents that can be beneficial
02:57.57TNSelocks got soul link, mages have spell steal, priests have -10% spell damage taken from talents
02:58.09TNSeshaman has -10% nature/fire/frost
02:58.11CIA-403kemayo * r54590 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/Comments.lua:
02:58.11CIA-4FuBar_QuestsFu:
02:58.11CIA-4-Comments: Finally fix the error if LightHeaded doesn't know about the quest, and properly show quest series names.
02:58.15Teufelwuts soul link? dont have that yet on my loc
02:58.41Ellipsisdemo talent, splits your damage taken with your pet
02:58.52Ellipsisand has a small damage increase as well
02:59.07TNSealso locks gain benefits from having a pet out with talents
02:59.15TNSeyou get certain benefits from certain pets
02:59.23TNSefelpuppy gives you quite a lot of bonus resistances
02:59.35Ellipsis70 to all resists, yeah
02:59.42Teufeldo u only get those from talent builds though?
02:59.45Ellipsisyes
02:59.59Ellipsismid-heavy demonology talents give all those bonuses
03:02.16TNSethe biggest advantage with having locks tank is that they have a spell (searing pain) which gives double threat
03:02.29TNSemeaning they can catch aggro and keep it a lot easier than other classes.
03:02.30CIA-403xyphor * r54591 10SpellDamage/ (SpellDamage.lua SpellDamage.toc sdOptions.lua): SpellDamage: Updated TOC and added Physical Damage for testing
03:02.52TNSebut the general idea is that a tank takes and mitigates damage
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03:03.24Ellipsislocks also have soulshatter for when they need to *stop* tanking :P
03:03.25TNSepaladins, warriors and druids do it via hitpoints, armor and avoidance (dodge, parry, block)
03:03.48TNSetanking caster mobs is done via resistances and hitpoints
03:04.05RaydenUnicso
03:04.09RaydenUnicguild bank and arkinventory
03:04.18Neolithichmmmms...even after re DLing the mods and the library, I'm still getting the same error
03:04.24RaydenUnici'm not seeing a guild bank
03:04.33RaydenUnici don't know if i'm doing something wrong or Ark doesn't show it or what
03:04.51CIA-403arrowmaster * r54592 10Capping/Capping.toc: Capping: remove the WorldStateFrame_ToggleMinimap LoadOn hook for AddonLoader from the toc so it stops breaking AddonLoader
03:05.31ArrowmasterNeolithic: what does this print to your chatframe now? /print AceLibrary("Gratuity-2.0"):GetLibraryVersion()
03:05.47EllipsisRaydenUnic: you have to go to a different NPC for guild bank than regular bank...
03:07.15RaydenUnicoh
03:07.18RaydenUnicwhere is he?
03:07.39PlagousRaydenUnic: it's an object in the bank
03:07.44Wobworkon the wall
03:07.59RaydenUnicoh i see it
03:08.21TeufelEllipsis: wut is soulshatter, cant find it anywhere
03:08.40PlagousTeufel: reduces current threat by 50%
03:08.55Neolithicstill 52819
03:08.58Teufeloh just found it on wowwiki
03:08.59Teufelthanx
03:09.08Teufelgod i love my class
03:09.13Teufelso much cool shit to play with
03:09.17ArrowmasterNeolithic: something is really wrong then
03:09.19Ellipsis...you're a warlock?
03:09.27Teufelyea just lvl 47 though
03:09.36Teufelso i havent' learned the ins and outs of endgame for him yet
03:09.39Neolithicwhat am I shooting for?
03:09.45Ellipsisum...
03:09.55Ellipsisyou should know what searing pain does by level 47 >_>
03:10.10Teufeli know wut searing pain does
03:10.18PlagousEllipsis: no one really reads the spell descriptions =P
03:10.27Ellipsisthen they're dumb :P
03:10.28ArrowmasterNeolithic: 54069000 is the current version
03:10.31Teufelwus just confused if immolate also hate the bonus to threat level
03:10.41Ellipsis...why would immolate have it?
03:10.42Teufelhad*
03:10.43Teufelhate
03:10.48Teufelit doesnt
03:10.55EllipsisI'm aware of that
03:11.07RaydenUniccan you make notes in wow out of nothing?
03:11.11Teufelwutever u werent here earlier i guess
03:11.13RaydenUnica note like when you save an email?
03:11.14Neolithicshouldn't the standalone library, take precedence over any in a mod?
03:11.18RaydenUnicer email - mail
03:11.28ArrowmasterNeolithic: yeah it should
03:11.45ZealotOnAStick~seen Tuller
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03:11.56ArrowmasterNeolithic: try /print IsAddOnLoaded("GratuityLib")
03:11.57XuerianOk, even though the new season starts next week, is S1 available for honor?
03:12.08TullerZealotOnAStick: yes, the buff code is causing FPS issues :)
03:12.24PlagousXuerian: next week i believe
03:13.00TeufelEllipsis: i guess u have a warlock
03:13.14Neolithic1 so...yes
03:13.43ArrowmasterNeolithic: hmm ok this is getting weird, need to look at the files on my system closer
03:13.46durcynoh, nice.  custom player titles can't be permanently turned off anymore
03:14.23EllipsisTeufel: yes, my main is a lock
03:14.38Kalman|BigWigs devs: updated for Al'ar's Meteor->Dive Bomb change?
03:15.06Neolithicany known conflicts with another mod?
03:15.12Xinhuannot a critical update Kalman| ;p
03:15.16Teufelwut build are you using?
03:15.26Xinhuanyou'll probably still kill alar without that meteor warning hehe
03:15.32Kalman|I could.
03:15.34EllipsisI'm currently 43/0/18
03:15.36Kalman|Not so sure about some of my guildmates.  :/
03:16.41ArrowmasterNeolithic: actually it seems LibGratuity-3.0 is taking over GratuityLib (which is ver 2.0) and thats why im seeing a higher revision number on my system and not getting any errors
03:17.01Teufeldo u change builds often or something?
03:17.03Wobwork... it shouldn't
03:17.09Wobworksince it's a different major version?
03:17.26EllipsisI change builds occasionally, depending what I need to be doing
03:17.43Arrowmasterall of ckks shit does compat extras
03:17.59Teufelany examples?
03:18.05Arrowmasterbut its actually gratuity-2.0 thats broken now
03:18.11Ellipsislike right now I need to respec because my gear is hit-capped and I don't need my points in Suppression anymore, and soon after that I'll hopefully respec 0/21/40 as my gear improves
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03:19.58aestilall i want from a mail mod, is alt click send
03:20.07Xinhuanwhat if you upgrade the broken addons to use gratuity3.0?
03:20.15Xinhuanwould that fix stuff?
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03:20.20aestilArrowmaster: you fixed cartographer?
03:20.25Arrowmasteryes
03:20.33Arrowmasterworking on gratituity now
03:20.43WobworkXinhuan: as long as you avoid api differences?
03:21.00Xinhuandunno if there are api differences
03:21.35Arrowmasterwell you dont have to do anything at all but just make the old addons force gratuity-3.0 to load even if theyre calling 2.0
03:22.15Arrowmasterok im only running 2.0 now
03:22.21Neolithicsadly, I don't have/can't get ahold of gratuity-3.0
03:22.29Neolithicor I'm just dumb and blind :)
03:22.31Arrowmasternow to see if i can get this error to show up
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03:23.22StanzillaNeolithic: http://files.wowace.com/LibGratuity-3.0/LibGratuity-3.0.zip
03:23.57aestilArrowmaster: i just wanted to thank you.
03:24.05NeolithicI now feel dumb...lol
03:24.22StanzillaNeolithic: :D
03:24.38TeufelEllipsis: are destruction talents more importantin endgame
03:25.03buuWHAT
03:25.26buuTeufel: Destruction talents are the only way to raid late game =[
03:25.35Neolithic...intresting....
03:25.42buuAlso, don't cast searing pain. Ever.
03:26.09Ellipsislulz
03:26.16Neolithicnow I just get a big blank lua box with  "Attempt to call a nill value" in it :)
03:26.19Teufelwell as i said im just 47 now so i have no end game experience with a loc, but thank u for the info
03:26.23Neolithicusing the 3.0 lib
03:26.36Ellipsisbuu, giev lock tank spec
03:26.46buuEllipsis: It depends on the gear and the healer.
03:27.01buuEllipsis: If you're undergeared and really going for it, something like 37/21+
03:27.14Ellipsiswhat if you have all the gear in the world
03:27.27buuThen just put on resist gear and man it up with whatever spec you have
03:27.27Ellipsisand lots of good healing
03:27.29buuProbably 21/40
03:27.30Ellipsishaha
03:27.37Arrowmasterhmm wtf
03:28.14Arrowmastergratuity-2.0 is working fine for me too
03:28.19Arrowmasternot getting any errors
03:28.28buuEllipsis: The three points to warlock tanking are resists, threat and life.. if you have awesome healers, you need less life. If you have awesome resists, you need less life. If you have awesome healers you also need less resists.
03:28.32buuAnd so on.
03:28.46Neolithicwtf...arrow....heh
03:28.52Neolithicdamn you and you errorless UI
03:29.13Kerafyrmwoohooo
03:29.13Arrowmastercan you give me any more of the error than Attempt to call a nil value
03:29.15Kerafyrmkilrogg crashed
03:29.21Kerafyrmand the instance server is long gone
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03:29.28Kerafyrm'Transfer Aborted: Instance not found'
03:29.29Neolithicthat's literraly all it says
03:29.34Kerafyrmfor the past 10 minutes now
03:29.34NeolithicI think this one is from elkano's buff bar
03:30.49Neolithicit was
03:32.57Neolithicthings seeeeeem to be ok now
03:33.03Neolithicnow I just need a new buff mod :(
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03:36.04ZealotOnAStick~seen Tuller
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03:36.16Hell-Razor!seen tuller
03:36.18ZealotOnAStickHrh
03:36.21ZealotOnAStickheh rather
03:37.00ZealotOnAStickI was actually just going to ask you how much testing the 2.3 version you had out a couple of days ago on Curse got.
03:37.27Hell-Razoreh?
03:37.31Tullerno one tested it in a raid :P
03:38.09ZealotOnAStickit was, for me, really just on boss fights.
03:38.14durcynomnicc, or something else?  having some FPS issues on boss fights myself.
03:38.16ZealotOnAStickHyjal trash waves were fine.
03:38.25ZealotOnAStickBoss shows up and we start on him, Hi 2 FPS.
03:38.28Tullerdurcyn: if you turn off buff and debuff highlighting, it'll work
03:38.29Arrowmasterumm ok i just installed EBBs and no errors
03:38.42KemayoArrowmaster: I'm not having a problem with it either.
03:38.46Tulleri've throttled it in mine :)
03:39.04dylanmGoddamn. Mal'Ganis has queues again.
03:39.26PaeneAddonLoader still not fixed?
03:39.39NeolithicI had an old version
03:39.42Arrowmasterits fixed sorta
03:39.44Neolithicjust updated..
03:39.50Arrowmasterebbs?
03:39.51Neolithicgunna see what happens :)
03:40.24CIA-403toadkiller * r54593 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
03:40.24CIA-4PeriodicTable-3.0:
03:40.24CIA-4- Biscuits baby! Yeah!
03:40.50Neolithicyay workds
03:41.08PaeneIs there a ZA module for Bigwigs?
03:41.16Hell-Razori need to find somebody that takes care of autobar or has in the pas
03:41.17Hell-Razorpast
03:41.21Arrowmasteryes
03:41.49Ellipsiswait, wtf?
03:41.52EllipsisThere are now options for displaying health and mana values on your health/mana bars for you/your party/your target and to display that information either as percentages or as numbers.
03:41.58Ellipsisdoes that mean no more mobhealth?
03:42.13PaeneArrowmaster: Where can I get it?
03:42.35Xinhuanbug found lol!
03:42.41ArrowmasterPaene: update capping
03:42.42Xinhuanstarshards consumes inner focus
03:42.51Xinhuaneven though it costs 0 mana
03:42.57Ellipsisfail
03:43.18Xinhuandoes anyone here remember the guildbank costs?
03:43.23Xinhuan100, 500, 1000 for first 3?
03:43.42Hell-RazorToadkiller: you still taking care of autobar?
03:43.47Paeneupdate Capping? lol gotta install it :)
03:44.28Arrowmasterwait
03:44.29buuXinhuan: 1,10,100,
03:44.30Arrowmasterwhat
03:44.36_ranehas anyone tried addon called ActionCombat?
03:44.37Arrowmasterwhat error are you getting then
03:44.48PaeneI'm confused
03:44.58PaeneI asked if there was a module for Zul'Aman
03:45.02Wobworkhehe
03:45.03Paenefor Bigwigs
03:45.06ArrowmasterPaene: what error are you getting with addonloader then if you dont have capping?
03:45.09Wobworkmmo-champion is /.'d
03:45.09Arrowmasteroh
03:45.17Xinhuanno buu, it was changed
03:45.30Xinhuanits more like 100, 500, 1000 for first 3 now, but i'm not too sure on what it changed too
03:45.32Xinhuanto*
03:45.41Xinhuanthe 6th tab also only costs 5k or something
03:45.55ThelynaPaene: yes there is
03:46.02ArrowmasterPaene: oh thought you were asking about the addonloader fix and not the bigwigs za modules
03:46.07PaeneThelyna: Any idea where I can get it?
03:46.19ArrowmasterPaene: the ZA modules are in bigwigs
03:46.27Paene:-/ mine's not showing them
03:46.29Paeneweird
03:46.29Thelynaer, yeah
03:46.32Arrowmasterdid you update?
03:46.36Paeneyeah
03:46.36Thelynathey're in the latest version of bigwigs
03:46.40Arrowmasterfrom files.wowace.com?
03:46.45Paeneyeha through WAU
03:46.48Paene*yeah
03:46.52Arrowmasteryou should have them
03:47.01Thelynayou mean your timers are not showing in the instance, or you don't have a ZulAman folder in your BigWigs install?
03:47.08Paenelemme check
03:47.34Paeneno foler
03:47.36Paene*folder
03:47.43Thelynaupdate it manually
03:47.48Paenekk
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03:48.20PenguinECEHi there.
03:48.44Arrowmasterif you update it manually then you need to run the bigwigslod.bat file too or youll have lots of problems since you use WAU
03:49.02PenguinECEI'm gettinga  bunch of lua errors thrown at me by line 735 (IIRC) of the ace-events2.0 lib file. Anybody else?
03:49.25ArrowmasterPenguinECE: have you updated recently?
03:49.51PenguinECEI've updated pitbull which was the only 2.3 updated ace2 addon I saw on curse
03:50.05JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
03:50.09Arrowmasterok well pitbull doesnt use ace2
03:50.11PenguinECEthen again, their 2.3 search has been flaky
03:50.15JoshBorkeas i don't believe it has been uploaded there by ckknight
03:50.25Ellipsisheehee, pitbutt
03:51.59PenguinECEso is that a no to potential issue with ace-events2.0 lib?
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03:52.50Arrowmasterno the issue is you need to have the most up2date versions from files.wowace.com before we can really give you any help at all
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03:56.16PaeneI have the folder now, but it's not showing up on the BW menu
03:57.22Arrowmasterdid you exit the game then log back in?
03:58.32KemayoMmm... cheaper mounts...
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03:58.45Ellipsiso rly?
03:58.47Ellipsisoh, right, the rep change
03:58.48NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: eh?
03:58.51NightHawkTheSaneoh, right.
03:59.38FlisherBoya, anyone know good/praised teamspeak autorised reseller?
03:59.50RaydenUnicdoes the spellstrike proc show up under buffs?
04:00.20CIA-403arrowmaster * r54594 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Zul'Aman is a 10-man raid
04:01.07ThelynaFlisher: my guild uses purevoice, hasn't had a problem recently that I remember
04:01.11Thelyna(last year or so)
04:01.20CIA-403arrowmaster * r54595 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0: Zul'Aman is a 10-man raid
04:02.01PaeneArrowmaster: yeah, logged out
04:02.03Gngskahhh, raiding on patch day. rage winterchill 9% -> crash
04:02.05Paenedeleted all the folders
04:02.08Paeneinstalled
04:02.33Paeneer logged out and closed the game
04:03.16ThelynaRaydenUnic: yes
04:03.39PaeneSo yeah, the folder is there, but no menu option and no alerts :-/
04:04.08WobworkPS mumble is a good product
04:04.17Wobworkfor p2p chat
04:06.54RaydenUnici'm never seeing it show up :(
04:07.08Ellipsiswtf, my realm just went down
04:07.09Ellipsis:/
04:07.59RaydenUnicit could not handle your awesomenicity
04:08.17Ellipsisinorite
04:08.50EllipsisRaydenUnic: spellstrike proc is "Lesser Spell Blasting" in buffs
04:09.04Ellipsisyou'll see a lightning type effect on your char
04:09.32RaydenUnick
04:09.34RaydenUnicthx
04:10.52CIA-403prbryant * r54596 10Jude/Jude.toc:
04:10.52CIA-4Jude:
04:10.52CIA-4- TOC Update to 20300
04:11.45CIA-403kemayo * r54597 10Quixote/Quixote.toc: Quixote: TOC.
04:12.11CIA-403kemayo * r54598 10SilverDragon/SilverDragon.toc: SilverDragon: TOC.
04:12.34CIA-403kemayo * r54599 10TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0.toc: TheSocial-1.0: TOC
04:12.52Stanzillawtf is "jude"
04:13.01Stanzillathat's the german word for "jew"
04:14.12CIA-403kemayo * r54600 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua):
04:14.12CIA-4FuBar_ToFu:
04:14.12CIA-4-TOC.
04:14.12CIA-4-Remove auto-dismounting, since it's been in the game for months now.
04:15.24Paeneso....bird boss has an enrage timer
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04:19.15KeiasZealotOnAStick, your FPS issue in raids was from Bongos debuff/buff highlighting?
04:19.23Tulleryes
04:19.31Keiasthanks Tuller
04:19.33Keias:D
04:19.38KeiasJust disable those then?
04:20.21CIA-403antiarc * r54601 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua:
04:20.21CIA-4Threat-1.0:
04:20.21CIA-4- Added a missing parameter to the Zul'jin module
04:20.34TullerKeias: yeah, disable it and it'll work fine
04:20.41Keiaskk, thanks
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04:21.46SymianHi there! I've been away from WoW add-on creation for a while, and I'm looking at Rock, and I'm liking what I see. I have some questions though.
04:22.03TullerKeias: I'm optimizing it while raiding :)
04:22.05SymianMostly - is there an add-on someone would reccomend I disect to figure it out?
04:22.25Symianbasic stuff like can I use it to load Ace2 libraries.
04:23.16Keiassounds like fun stuff lol
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04:26.21SymianSo, anyone?
04:26.38SymianCan you name an add-on that uses Rock, so that I can disect it, figuring out how Rock works?
04:27.09hyperChipmunkany of ckk's addons; he's the only one who uses it
04:27.24SymianOh, is he? Hah - ok.
04:27.30JoshBorkei think flexbar uses it
04:27.41SymianWell if that's the case maybe I'll stick with Ace2
04:27.54Lukianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Author:ckknight
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04:29.38EllipsisFlexBar2 and Prat both use Rock and are not ckk's
04:29.59JoshBorkeapparently prat uses it too
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04:33.15SaranaHe also put a whole bunch of the documentation up on the wiki, see http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibRock
04:34.20LetheKai|AFKKinda getting frustrated, I have the latest OmniCC and have completely closed out WoW several times, the mod's enabled and I can even access the options, but the countdown text isn't showing on my abilities.
04:34.32LetheKai|AFKAnyone know what my malfunction may be? =P
04:34.38JoshBorkeLetheKai|AFK: check the minimum scale setting
04:34.48Arrowmasterwell RockDB seems to have a serious flaw somewhere
04:34.51Tullerdid you delete alll folders before installing? :)
04:34.57Arrowmasterfyi if your thinking about using it
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04:35.07Tullerdo you have !OmniCC for some reason?
04:35.08Paeneso here's something interesting...when I update with WAU, each Bigwigs Module is in it's own folder in my Addons folder.  If I update manually from files.wowace.com, each Bigwigs Module is in it's own folder in the Bigwigs folder...could that be affecting why my menu isn't showing ZA in it's list of modules?
04:35.47LetheKai|AFKJosh: Oh thanks, I wiggled that around and nothing happened, but when you said that I played with it more and if I push it all the way to the left the numbers show again, albeit way differently than the old one.  Think I can tweak that though.
04:35.56ArrowmasterPaene: i told you if you download the zip you need to run the bigwigslod.bat inside the bigwigs folder after extracting
04:36.10Arrowmasterbut it shouldnt be effecting that the ZA modules arent showing up
04:36.41PaeneArrowmaster: sorry, missed that...been tabbing back and forth, raiding :)
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04:39.17EllipsisArrowmaster: what RockDB problem did you notice?
04:39.53ArrowmasterCartographer_LookNFeel is completely broken with saving settings
04:40.13Arrowmasterand i know others have been reporting problems with data saving in other stuff
04:40.20PaeneGuess I'll try resetting the SV's for Bigwigs
04:40.37Gngskis it possible to disable the new raid warning frame animation?
04:41.08Xinhuanno
04:41.15Xinhuanit is part of Blizzard UI
04:41.15Arrowmasterprobably
04:41.20Arrowmasterby redoing it entirely
04:41.25Xinhuanso you'll need an addon to modify/change it
04:41.33Xinhuanor hide it and have another addon display it in the old way
04:43.21Gngsklike improved raid warning frame is busted maybe that could be implemented
04:43.45Arrowmasterblizzard completely changed the raidwarningframe
04:43.58Arrowmasterits nolonger a scrollingmesssageframe
04:44.05Gngskahh
04:44.14Arrowmasterjust a frame
04:45.15PaeneResetting SV's fixed it
04:45.47Xinhuandoes that mean parrot or sinklib or whatever might error on using it?
04:46.24Arrowmasterno
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04:46.37Arrowmasterit still seems to have the AddMessage function i think
04:47.01Ellipsisugh, my RW frame is so screwy
04:47.25Ellipsisit's like it does some weird scaling thing that makes my CF2 font become unreadable
04:48.51Arrowmasterok get this inside the Cartographer_LookNFeel:OnInit it gets a db namespace from Cartographer then registers its defaults, then directly after that i added code to dump the db and it only contained data from the SV
04:48.54Arrowmasterso fucked up
04:55.07Zhinjiohmm. do I want to use the bulkiness of Prat for the features that Chatmod covers for me or not. that is the question
04:55.14ZhinjioI won't use 90% of prat's features
04:55.34durcynZhinjio: eh, vChat.
04:55.34Wobworktechnically you -should- be able to disable the mods
04:55.48WobworkI make no claim as to whether this is actually possible or not, though =P
04:58.00Wobwork=( at carto_waypoints bugs
04:58.08Wobworkwhich possibly appear to be librock bugs
04:58.11Zhinjiovchat doesn't support name coloring. blah.
04:58.17Wobworkand subsequently I have no desire to look into fixing it
04:58.19Zhinjiodoes everything else I want though
04:58.32Wobworkteknicolor used to do the name colouring
04:58.43WobworkI can't recall if it still works though
04:58.59KemayoArrowmaster: RaidWarningFrame doesn't have AddMessage any more.
04:59.14Arrowmasterohshit
04:59.17WobworkKemayo: That... kinda sucks?
04:59.24NightHawkTheSaneo_-
04:59.24Zhinjioyeah, I think I'll just reload chatmod and see if it still works.
04:59.28NightHawkTheSaneer, o_0
04:59.28Zhinjioit does everything I want
04:59.49Wobworkwhat an odd thing to remove
05:02.32KemayoLooks like we have: "RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, "text", colorInfo)"
05:02.54KemayoAh, where colorInfo is {r=1,g=1,b=1}.
05:03.19NightHawkTheSaneSo. I've got a "/cancelform; /cast Cat Form [nostance];" macro. now in 2.3 using that while i'm in cat form basically instantly shifts me out of and back into cat form.
05:03.37kadrahilugh
05:03.39Diaoflag running macro?
05:03.40kadrahilthe osx client is so screwed up now
05:03.43kadrahilsound sucks
05:03.49fitz__powershifting macro!
05:03.50NightHawkTheSanehmm, i think i figured out my problem, maybe..
05:04.07fitz__a guildmate gave me the SoNF yesterday, can't wait to fire up a p/shift macro on it and see how it goes
05:04.57KemayoArrowmaster: Ah, but it's all fine, because SinkLib has already been updated for it.
05:05.04NightHawkTheSanegah, okay, so yeah. i want it to remove me from form if i'm already in cat form, but it wont. ><
05:07.25KemayoIt's a horribly pointless change.
05:07.48fitz__nighthawkthesane, doesn't "/cancelform" do that?
05:07.54fitz__oh
05:07.56fitz__I see
05:08.07NightHawkTheSanefitz__: yeah, but with the 2.3 changes, the cancelform hits, and the /cast cat form immediately takes effect
05:08.10fitz__so you want a button that will change you into cat form if you're not in a form
05:08.12fitz__but out otherwise?
05:08.20NightHawkTheSaneyes
05:08.26fitz__the default cat form button, eg?
05:08.53NightHawkTheSanemore or less, except, unless this also changed in 2.3, if i was in bear form and hit cat form, it wouldn't pop me out of form
05:09.27NightHawkTheSanealthough, now that i look, it appears it just auto-switches me to form
05:09.51fitz__in 2.3 that macro should change you instantly to cat form from any form
05:10.17NightHawkTheSaneyeah, the macros i was using were kind of hit-any-form-to-pop-out
05:10.30fitz__in 2.3, again, if you try to use an ability that requires you to be in caster, eg, changing forms, you should automagically unshift
05:10.33NightHawkTheSanewhich also worked for mashing bear form to switch to bear form if i wasn't already
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05:17.21kenlyricso how easy is it now to have a kitty-to-human-to-bear-bearcharge-back to kitty macro
05:18.11NightHawkTheSanewell, form-to-non-caster-form is instant now
05:19.57NightHawkTheSaneso i bet with clever macros, probably not too hard
05:21.45kenlyricnice, i just tested that.
05:22.38Diaouhh
05:22.39NightHawkTheSanesomething like "/cast Bear Form [stance:3]; /cast Feral Charge; /cast Cat Form [stance:1]"
05:22.49Diaonone of ckknight's addons will have problems if i just load out of date addons right?
05:22.52EllipsisNightHawkTheSane, can't you just switch the order of the commands in your macro to make it work the way you want?
05:22.52Diaonone of them are updated on the addon screen :(
05:23.11NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: I did, and it seemed to work, i havn't had a chance to test other implications of that though
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05:24.07NightHawkTheSanebut with instant form-to-form transitions, and auto-unshift, i think with some clever re-binding i can do what i want without those macros
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05:25.18NeoTronwell I can sadly say I seem to get no additional benefit from dual core cpu at all
05:25.22NeoTron57% cpu usage..
05:25.42kenlyrici really like have thunderstomp be instance now from any form.
05:25.56kenlyric*instant
05:26.47kenlyricmakes me want to get those 8 points in resto like now.
05:27.01NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: yeah, thats part of whati mean by re-binding
05:27.09NightHawkTheSane8 points in resto? o_0
05:27.19kenlyricfor the shapeshifting talents.
05:27.36NightHawkTheSaneBut, I had stealth/challenging roar/war stop bound to the same key, with a macro with [stance] conditionals.. that'll have to change.
05:27.48NightHawkTheSaneahh
05:28.07NightHawkTheSanepfft. soon as i finish off my feral tree, i'm putting in 14 there
05:28.48NightHawkTheSanenaturalist and ooc is too nice to pass up
05:32.22xerawxthey say its multicore support but it defaults to using only 2 cores of my quad.. which is still better than 1.. but if i change the affinity to all 4 it starts using only the third.. o_O
05:33.22xerawxstill can't really complain about the performance as i'm usually running a ton of other stuff too and i just put that on the other cores
05:33.43xerawxbut i heard they just put the sound code on the second core
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05:33.57xerawxnot sure how it's working
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05:38.41xerawxhow can i clean up this UI more http://tinyimg.us/i/arx1195018615d.jpg
05:39.52sedai|Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee combat.
05:39.54sedai|........................
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05:40.18sedai|as if beast-spec'd pets werent already OP
05:40.20sedai|lol, yay
05:40.22xerawxhaha
05:40.27xerawxyeah i like that
05:40.39NightHawkTheSanethats.. not really done to buff hunters
05:40.48NightHawkTheSaneit's done to keep tanks from being killed
05:41.05xerawxit helps keep the pets alive too
05:41.13xerawxinstead of getting cleaved in the face
05:41.19NightHawkTheSanetrue
05:41.48CIA-403wobin 07Wobin * r54602 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.toc): MrPlow - Moved to the PT3.1 in trunk and added in optdeps
05:42.09Diaoso many unupdated addons :(
05:42.42sedai|Players will now be able to cast spells for free in the Battleground before it begins.
05:42.44sedai|about time
05:42.46sedai|YAY
05:42.56sedai|especially for people who buff like mages
05:42.59Diaoyeah
05:43.01NightHawkTheSanewasn't that already the case?
05:43.02Diaotoo bad it still costs reagents
05:43.03DiaoGG
05:43.08sedai|no only in arenas
05:43.10DiaoNope, never was.
05:43.16NightHawkTheSaneoh, battelgrounds, not arenas
05:43.17NightHawkTheSanemy bad
05:43.22xerawxyeah that almost made me want to keep playing my priest
05:43.28sedai|i just intalled the patch
05:43.38sedai|im excited cause i abandoned my mains and am leveling a shaman
05:43.47sedai|56 is a fun level to be
05:44.01xerawxhalf a priests laughable survivability comes from buffs that used to cost half their mana to cast every death
05:44.38xerawxi'm gonna level a shaman for my next healer too
05:45.02sedai|Feral Attack Power
05:45.04sedai|omg
05:45.09sedai|werent druid OP?
05:45.11xerawxthe only i haven't really played are shaman and pally and i think i'd be bored to tears healing as a pally
05:45.14sedai|now they are more OP?
05:45.24NightHawkTheSanethey are more fun.
05:45.26sedai|i cant handle Pally
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05:45.36sedai|love shaman thougha nd DW Enh :D
05:45.43WobworkSo. Who can explain to me embeds.xml?
05:45.58Aens|Superioritysedai|: the feral attack power change is a scaling fix.  Low gear level druids wont see a change at all.
05:46.43Aens|Superiorityand high gear level druids will finally be able to rise off the bottom of the dps meters.
05:49.47Diaowhoa
05:50.07sedai|Shadowstep (Subtlety) can now be used at any time, not only while stealthed. Now increases the damage and reduces the threat caused by the next damaging ability. Cooldown increased to 30 seconds. Range changed to 25 yards.
05:50.08sedai|OMG
05:50.12Diaoweird
05:50.13sedai|my rogue will be happy
05:50.19sedai|been shadowstep spec'd forever.
05:50.47WobworkIt'll be fantastic for pissing off casters
05:51.08NightHawkTheSanesedai|: are you like, just now reading patch notes orr something?
05:51.11WobworkPyro? Hah, not if you're not in los!
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05:51.58CIA-403wobin 07Wobin * r54603 10MrPlow/embeds.xml: MrPlow - updated embeds.xml. Let me know if I did it all wrong.
05:52.31Diaohmm
05:52.34Diaoweird
05:52.35Diaowhen i login
05:52.39Diaoall my chatframes are white
05:53.56Diaobtw
05:54.01Diaoanyone know of an updated version of system message control tool?
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06:00.21aestilwith baggins, how do i see my actual bags to equip new shiny 20 slot bag?
06:00.23NightHawkTheSanegreen tea ice cream is awesome.
06:00.34NightHawkTheSaneaestil: erm. baggins doesn't hide your bag bar, does it?
06:00.40NightHawkTheSaneor do you mean bank?
06:00.45aestilbag
06:00.50xerawxit's easy with OneBag
06:00.53aestilwith AI i could show the bags in the window
06:00.54NightHawkTheSaneafaik, baggins doesn't hide your bag bar at all
06:00.56xerawxnever used baggins im afraid
06:01.27NightHawkTheSanepersonally, I go in to bongos and make my bag bar visible when i need to futz with my bags.
06:01.35CIA-403bhigh * r54604 10Capping/battlegrounds/AV.lua:
06:01.35CIA-4Capping
06:01.35CIA-4<PROTECTED>
06:01.40TullerNightHawkTheSane: the fps issue should be fixed, btw
06:01.49NightHawkTheSaneTuller: fps issue?
06:01.56NightHawkTheSaneoh, with bongos?
06:02.00Tulleryeah
06:02.08NightHawkTheSanei was wondering why my fps was kinda shitty >.>
06:02.41Tulleryeah effectively I tested it in arenas, but nowhere else :)
06:02.55Tullerso I tested it in raids today and saw the FPS killing
06:03.18NightHawkTheSanehehe
06:04.38Bejittwth.. where is the guild control in the FrameXML?
06:05.16CIA-403jayhawk * r54605 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files):
06:05.16CIA-4FuBar_PetInfoFu:
06:05.16CIA-4- updated TOC 20300
06:05.16CIA-4- saves experience tooltip showing
06:05.16CIA-4- added option for sound on lose happiness level
06:05.18NightHawkTheSaneI do like the buff/debuff highlighting though
06:05.25xerawxi love the omg why didnt they just do that 2 years ago things in this patch.. like the fp at rebel camp in stv
06:05.35NightHawkTheSanewas kinda handy on my lock as an easy way to see when debuffs had faded
06:05.53xerawxand the lack of hunter deadzone.. and the free buffs at the start of BGs
06:06.30NightHawkTheSanexerawx: well, the hunter deadzone was probably a technology issue, they just hadn't figured out how to get the npcs to handle it right
06:07.42NightHawkTheSaneand there's the obvious point of, they simply didn't think of some things at the time
06:08.01SymianTo me, the biggest duh addressed was the auctionhouse code
06:08.21SymianI was just floored to see Auctioneer grab all 200 pages in 2 minutes. And that was EASING the load on the server.
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06:08.36xerawxyeah that one is huge
06:08.51SymianUsed to take me darn near a half-hour
06:09.06NightHawkTheSanei wouldnt be surprised if that project's been in the works for a very long time internally
06:09.06xerawxand to think of all the people doing that on a regular basis on every server
06:09.14KrittickIs there a guild bank manager addon yet? Something to compress the guild bank stacks would be nice.
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06:09.45NightHawkTheSanei bet you could sex up Kemayo to make bankstack do that
06:10.49hyperChipmunkoye, the "i'm a mac" commercials have returned
06:10.57grzesieqhrhr no 2.3 to download yet
06:10.59grzesieqstupid eu
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06:11.17Krittickis there a way to keep Skinner from skinning a specific frame?
06:11.44WobworkKrittick: hm
06:11.47CIA-403toadkiller * r54606 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:
06:11.47CIA-4LibBabble-Spell-3.0 :
06:11.47CIA-4-- Find Fish INV_Misc_Fish_02
06:11.52grzesieqbtw, http://www.ender-guild.com/images/screenshots/20071113_Gorefiend_big.jpg lolol felguard ;P
06:11.53xerawxskinning bear should aggro every bear?
06:11.54WobworkHave we got guildbank api yet?
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06:12.26MelarkeHullo.
06:12.44kadrahilis anyone experiencing horrible lag in aav?
06:12.46kadrahilav
06:12.47CIA-403kameril * r54607 10VisualThemes/ (Locales/Locales.xml Locales.xml VisualThemes.toc):
06:12.47CIA-4VisualThemes:
06:12.47CIA-4-TOC update for 2.3
06:12.47CIA-4-Changed locales layout slightly.
06:13.09KrittickI disabled the bank skinning but it skins the guild bank still
06:13.19Krittickkinda sucks because it messes up the layout a lot
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06:15.15MelarkeErm, I have a question. Does anyone know of an Ace-based standalone with buttons for throwing up target markings? Apparently it was handled by DUF in the compilation I used to use and now it's wonky.
06:15.34CIA-403jayhawk * r54608 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc SkillsPlusFu-readme.txt):
06:15.34CIA-4FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
06:15.34CIA-4- updated TOC 20300
06:15.51CodayusMelarke: Get SimpleRaidTargetIcons.  Not Ace, but I <3 it.
06:16.03KrittickYou can also do it with macros.
06:17.06xerawxsimpler to just bind the numpad to raid icons imo
06:17.23MelarkeYeah, but I'm already overflowing with button bars and I don't wanna clutter them more with marking macros.
06:17.32MelarkeThanks for the tip Coda, I'll check it out.
06:17.41Arrowmasterso i just went fishing and got the weather beaten journal on my 2nd crate from zangarmarsh
06:17.47Krittickyou can use Spellbinder to bind macros to keys without adding them to buttons
06:18.06CodayusSimpleRaidTargetIcons lets you double click on the mobs in the game world, and it brings up a radial menu of icons.  I find it more useful than just binding the icons directly.
06:18.08xerawxwhy do you need macros for it anyway.. you can just bind keys to raid icons in the default ui
06:18.09Arrowmasterand got a 3rd crate from the same pool, didnt open it and went and traded it to a friend, he got a journal from that one too
06:18.28CodayusKrittick: No need for spellbinder, the icons are in the default key bind interface.
06:18.36KrittickAh, didn't know that. Good to know.
06:18.38MelarkeHuh, didn't know that.
06:18.43Arcaiaare there any chat mods that let me entirely resize a chat window?
06:18.51MelarkeStill, I'm *such* a clicker.
06:18.52CodayusYeah, I found that out AFTER I wrote an addon that let you bind keys to icons.
06:18.57CodayusI felt a little stupid.
06:19.02Codayus><
06:19.11xerawxit is buried in the list sorta
06:19.13Krittickew clicking.
06:19.19xerawxunless you're an avid anti-clicker you probably wouldnt know
06:20.11KrittickMy first day playing WoW I used keybindings. I've never once clicked. :)
06:20.25MelarkeWell, lemme rephrase. I have so many bloody keys already bound, I don't have much keyboard space left to assign. (Raid with my Druid)
06:20.33CodayusNow, I can see that.
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06:20.45xerawxi only click when i'm healing with Clique :)
06:21.00xerawxthat's the only place i can imagine it being effcient
06:21.11MelarkePretty much every key I can reach easily with my left hand is bound, shift-bound, and alt-bound. Too many danged abilities ._.
06:21.15KrittickWell, yeah. Clique is a godsend on my druid
06:21.21CodayusI've got 1-8, alt 1-8, and shift 1-8 all bound...
06:22.04Kritticksame for me, but I also have Num0, Alt+Num0 bound to Health Potion/Mana Potion respectively
06:22.05CodayusAnd I still run out of binds.  I have Mind Vision, Mind Soothe, fort, shadow protection, etc on bars I click on.  Stuff I'd never use in combat, basically.
06:22.12Krittickand -/= bound to food/water
06:22.12MelarkeI really only use 1-6, much more than that and I've gotta stretch too much. All the keys around asdw are bound, though.
06:22.29CodayusOh, I bound F9-F12 to emergency pots, desperate prayer, healthstone, etc.
06:22.39CodayusI used to only use 1-6, but I got too desperate for more binds.
06:22.48Lukianyeah my hunter has that grid of keys bound with shift/alt modifiers :)
06:22.57CodayusI think it was after the second time I died do to not being able to click on levitate.
06:23.18CodayusI realized that it WAS an in-combat ability, and needed a binding...and I just couldn't find room.  :-(
06:23.24xerawxi tend not to use ctrl cause i find it awkward having to reach my pinky down, on this keyboard at least.. but basically everything else on the left side of the board is fair game
06:23.25MelarkeRight now I'm just harrying around trying to cobble a UI together, I got fed up with every patch breaking the compilation I used because the author never updates.
06:23.43Lukiancompilations are silly ^^
06:23.50MelarkeBut convenient.
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06:24.42MelarkeAt least they are when you don't have to lurk the author's forumspace looking for jury-rigged fixes every time a patch rolls out.
06:25.18KrittickIs there an alternative to Skinner? I like how it redesigns the ui frames, but different ways of redesigning it would be nice.
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06:28.14MelarkeI don't know how I lived before discovering SmartBuff. <3
06:28.24KrittickWhat does it do?
06:29.14MelarkeIt's an autobuffer. Lets you assign class priority and exceptions. Handles party buffs pretty well, too.
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06:30.04Melarke(IE, I can have it automatically put Thorns on myself (Raid MT) but not our lovable Boomkin)
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06:31.22CIA-4FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
06:31.22CIA-4- updated TOC
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06:34.20CIA-4FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
06:34.20CIA-4- added frFR, koKR, zhTW localisations
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06:48.18Diaohmm
06:48.21Diaoskinner needs a fix for the guild bank
06:48.29Diaoit's skinned improperly atm :(
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06:51.12Kerafyrmhttp://ace.pastey.net/77129
06:51.17ChexsumOMFG Shadowform Skelly is back and noggenfogger has no cooldown@$#Q
06:51.23Kerafyrmbut
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06:51.33Kerafyrmthe noggen shirnk effect will not stack with anything else now
06:54.18xerawxdo druids stay shrunk in forms again?
06:55.06Kerafyrmdunno. but druids are thrilled to be able to change forms without having to goto caster
06:56.03xerawxyea that's huge.. catching them in caster form won't be easy at all now
06:57.12fitz__well
06:57.18fitz__/cancelform works at any time
06:57.21fitz__even when stunned
06:57.30fitz__but the followup shift to the new form does not work when stunned
06:57.58fitz__which is the key difference between instant shifting between forms and what they gave us
06:58.24NightHawkTheSaneer.. fitz__ you don't need to /cancelform to shift from form to form
06:59.14xerawxyou wouldn't really want to cancel a form when stunned anyway
06:59.39CIA-403ixchael * r54612 10Historian/Historian.toc:
06:59.39CIA-4Historian:
06:59.39CIA-4- Updated TOC for patch 2.3.
06:59.45fitz__nighthawkthesane, you do if you turn off auto-unshift!
06:59.55NightHawkTheSanewell. :P
07:00.01fitz__xerawx, human and network latency will make it happen from time to time
07:00.23fitz__nighthawk, and besides, even if you're letting your UI fill in the /cancelform for you, it's still doing the same thing
07:00.34fitz__(does it check to see if you CAN perform the action before unshifting?)
07:00.40NightHawkTheSaneyes
07:00.50fitz__oh well, I'm 90% certain I'll get stunlocked next time I'm in an arena, I can check then!
07:00.52NightHawkTheSaneif you don't have the mana to go to your new form you wont unshift
07:01.21Diaodruids like to shift out of stun
07:01.22Diaofor some reason
07:01.24Diaoit's like a reflex
07:01.25Silviu-Morning
07:01.36Diaohalf the time i'll intercept or something and they'll shift out of bear
07:01.53NightHawkTheSaneits probably an instict when they stop moving, thinking its a root/snare
07:02.05fitz__diao, I shift out of cat and hit barkskin, usually
07:02.17xerawxif you were in cat then yeah
07:02.36fitz__then spend the rest of my life bar clicking furiously at a healthstone or something and totally not getting it out before death :(
07:03.29MelarkeI used to stay in cat, then some kind person told me that avoidance doesn't work while stunned D:
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07:04.04xerawxi really don't like the increasing prevalence of stuns.. especially considering blizzard said they're trying to phase out abilities that make you lose control of your character
07:04.36MelarkeWtb rogue-on-a-stick? >_>
07:04.41xerawxeven some priests are getting a stun
07:04.46xerawxwell besides blackout
07:04.50xerawxwhich doesnt really count
07:05.05Diaostuns interact with each other though
07:05.08Diaoon DR
07:06.06MelarkeYeah, but don't mace spec stuns and activated stuns have seperate DR?
07:06.22Ozgulinot sure of that
07:06.32Diaoyes
07:06.36Diaobut mace is luck anyway
07:06.43Diaoeh
07:06.49MelarkeMace happens all the bloody time >_<
07:07.03Ozgulimace is all about the time, no luck required
07:07.11Diaolol
07:07.22Diaothat's because you only remember the times you get stunned :\
07:07.32Diaofrom my experience, about half the time it procs insanely
07:07.41Diaoin arenas anyway
07:07.43Ozguliand then the DR blocks it...
07:07.44Diaoand other times it doesn't proc at all
07:07.48Diaofor the entire match
07:07.52Ozgulio.
07:07.52Diaowhich is like 10+ minutes
07:07.53Diao:(
07:08.06kadrahilhow are shamans in pvp now?
07:08.07OzguliI only play 2v2 with my friends
07:08.10kadrahili didn't read their changes
07:08.13MelarkeI've gotten procced from 10 yds away before -.-
07:09.46dreamssnerfed grounding/more or unlimited mana
07:09.53dreamssno dr on frostshock
07:10.03Diaoyeah
07:10.06Diaoit procs randomly
07:10.07Diaoi love it when
07:10.10Diaoa mage novas me
07:10.11Diaoand blinks
07:10.17Diaoand my white attack goes off just as they blink
07:10.18Diaoand the mace stun procs
07:10.21Diaoit's so funny
07:10.28MelarkeHmm. Recap and Recount perform essentially the same function, right?
07:10.30Diaocause they're just like "...wtf"
07:10.35Diaosort of, yes
07:11.13Silviu-Anyone from eu realms alive ? ;)
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07:12.47Zhinjiowhat property makes some pitbull frames "flash"
07:12.51Zhinjiothat needs to go away.
07:12.57kadrahilcombatfader?
07:13.04Zhinjioit is?
07:13.09kadrahiltry disabling that module
07:13.19Zhinjiowell, I do want combatfader. hmm, wait...
07:13.28kadrahilit caused focus and pet frames to flash intermittently for me
07:13.41Zhinjioweird.
07:13.48Zhinjiofocus and pet's target for me.
07:13.49Zhinjioyeah
07:13.53kadrahilah
07:14.01NightHawkTheSanerange fading?
07:14.26Zhinjioyeah, could be range detection
07:14.40Zhinjiothat was it
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07:14.53kadrahilahh
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07:15.51Zhinjioawesome. starting to take shape now.
07:16.09kadrahilShamanistic Focus (New Enhancement Talent): After landing a melee critical strike, you enter a Focused state. The Focused state reduces the mana cost of your next Shock spell by 60%
07:16.13kadrahil;o
07:16.14Zhinjiofirst time I've tried keeping all unit frames on the right side.
07:16.27kadrahilwow, enhancement got a buff
07:16.33Zhinjiokadrahil, I think its the next 2, isn't it?
07:16.35kadrahilright side? eek
07:16.36MelarkeMy Enhancement friend is so excited now.
07:16.42NightHawkTheSanedo you people just not read patch notes until the day of, or something? :P
07:16.54kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: not for classes other than my main
07:16.56Diaohmm
07:16.57ZhinjioI trascribe them for my guild. I've had them up for two weeks now.
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07:16.59NightHawkTheSanefreak.
07:17.02Diaoanyone know of a good square minimap that's been updated?
07:17.04kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: and not for classes i'm not thinking about rerolling :P
07:17.15ZhinjioDiao: simpleMinimap works fine for me.
07:17.16Diaosqueenix isn't saving the unlocked positions
07:17.19Diao:\
07:17.20NightHawkTheSaneDiao: smm's been working fine, with the only exception being unable to move the tracking icon
07:17.23Diaohmm
07:17.24MelarkeHe has some 400 spell dmg in full-on melee gear. Now he can try even harder to pull aggro off me!
07:17.29Diaodoes smm have ONLY square minimap?
07:17.32Diaoi don't want any extra junk
07:17.37Diaobesides square minimap/moveability
07:17.38Diaolol
07:17.44NightHawkTheSanewell, its got a lot of extra functionality
07:17.44Zhinjiono, it has lots of other stuff. SUFFER!
07:17.48NightHawkTheSanebut i guess you don't have to use it :P
07:17.49ZhinjioSUFFER THE FEATURE CREEP!
07:17.51Zhinjio*grin*
07:17.52Diaonooooooo
07:17.53Diao:(
07:17.55Diaolol
07:17.57Zhinjioehehheee
07:17.57kadrahil..
07:18.02NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: *boggle* i pour over every line :P
07:18.09kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: lol
07:18.11NightHawkTheSaneusually a half dozen or so times before the patch finally is released
07:18.33NightHawkTheSanebut that's largely because i have a really poor memory for things that don't actually matter
07:18.42kadrahilheh LW got a buff too
07:18.47MelarkeI just try to distill the patchnotes from the sky-is-falling posts on the class forums. More interesting that way.
07:18.52NightHawkTheSaneit so did. mm.. drums.
07:19.05NightHawkTheSaneMelarke: that way gives you ulcers.
07:19.38MelarkeBut occasional giggles!
07:19.51rubikthey must have nerfed the hell out of kara
07:20.02Zhinjiook, I'm liking the "teen" font an awful lot. Its very very clean for unit frames.
07:20.12NightHawkTheSanerubik: what makes you say that?
07:20.15rubikcause guild just did a full clear in 3.5 hrs and they usually struggle and can't finish in one night
07:20.25Zhinjiohmm
07:20.30rubik23 total badges per person
07:20.31NightHawkTheSaneafaik, very little actually changed in kara in this patch
07:20.45NightHawkTheSanerubik: ooh, can you give me a breakdown of how many each boss dropped?
07:20.47MelarkeMy RP guild is just barely starting in Kara. Three weeks in.
07:20.55NightHawkTheSanewe tried to do kara tonight, but the instance servers bombed ><
07:20.56rubikeach boss 2, prince 3
07:21.03rubiki think it was
07:21.06MelarkeJust got our first few attempts on Prince last Sunday :D
07:21.18NightHawkTheSanehm.. sure? >.> we only got 1 from attumen
07:21.39rubikhmm.. i'll have to ask.. i wasn't there at the start.. i only joined them for the last half hour
07:21.51NightHawkTheSaneahh
07:21.52rubikyou're prolly right, i'm sure
07:22.11rubiki know prince was 3 for sure but not sure if that's every time or random 2 or 3
07:22.15NightHawkTheSanewell, i thought it would be 2 from each, and probably 3 from price and/or nightbane. but we only got 1 from attumen, so i'm curious
07:22.54Zhinjiowhat I heard was 1 from each up to opera, 2 for illhood, netherspite, aran and chess, and 3 from prince/nightbane.
07:23.00Zhinjiobut.... I have no confirmed data
07:23.17NightHawkTheSanewouldn't be surprised at that
07:23.26Zhinjiomade sense to me too
07:23.31ramozhas ckknight stopped working on PitBull/rock?
07:23.34Zhinjioillhoof*
07:23.55Zhinjior
07:23.58Zhinjiowoops.
07:24.33Orionshock~seen ckknight_
07:24.34purlckknight_ <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 7h 16m 25s ago, saying: 'and I'm staffing a Martial Arts festival soon'.
07:24.41Orionshock~seen ckknight
07:24.42purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 20h 31m 55s ago, saying: 'cryogen, rawr'.
07:24.44CIA-403funkydude * r54613 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: upvalue tweak
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07:28.38OrionshockKemayo: does it now really return triplets?
07:28.43fitz__hmm, guild kz run jus finished, wonder if the za raid is still going, or about to post their raid log
07:28.52Silviu-Hmm strange the patch is not downloding for me ( eu ) i mean i have the Partial 1 and 2 but the actual patcher.exe is not comming and the login server works :)
07:29.24neeneeSilviu-, yeah, same here
07:29.31fitz__that'd be because shittorrent is a poor way to distribute files
07:29.39neeneenonsense
07:29.46Silviu-;)
07:29.47fitz__download it from a fan site, re-run downloader to checksum it
07:30.08Silviu-Well, i think they did not patch the loginserver yet
07:30.21fitz__no free t6 armor for you, then
07:30.32Silviu-I mean i can login and go until server list with 2.2.3
07:30.34Orionshock**SOB!!!
07:30.37neeneeI don't care about T6 anything
07:30.40Orionshock3 dosn't divied nicely
07:30.49Orionshockfuk
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07:32.49Elkanodurcyn, would you mind to keep your fingers from other peoples addons without asking?
07:33.14Silviu-Elkano what did he add ? ;)
07:34.01Elkanohe moved my trunk to branch and my branch to trunk...
07:34.18Silviu-lol
07:34.30neeneeIs that a branch in your trunk, or are you just happy to see me :P
07:34.43Funkeh`no, its a trunk in my branch
07:34.46Orionshocki+x/y = the quest selection?
07:35.05Silviu-9 hours ago
07:35.06Silviu-cool :)
07:35.49Kerafyrmhow does one interpret the tainlog?
07:35.52Kerafyrmtaint*
07:35.56OrionshockTekkub: wtb your help :D
07:36.14ElkanoI would have asked for someone to merge the branch in to trunk anyways so it's not that bad, still I think he should have asked first. also moving the trunk to branch first was stupid...
07:36.18ramozanyone got the enGB downloader?
07:36.55Speeddymonanyone aware of any compatibility probs with ace2?  if not im gonna up the toc for it
07:36.56Silviu-ramoz no
07:36.58Funkeh`nope
07:37.05Funkeh`Eu patch is taking forever to kick
07:37.06neeneeramoz, there are mirrors on wowwiki
07:37.20Funkeh`servers up in a few hours and still no patch
07:37.22ramozneenee: only for part 1 and 2 as far as i can see
07:37.28Tekkuboreo?
07:37.30ramozcan you log in Funkeh` ?
07:37.33neeneeAh well.
07:37.43Silviu-ramoz i can until server select where is empty
07:37.46Funkeh`ramoz, usually I can log in adn download the patch, now i'm just seeing server selection, no patch
07:37.47neeneeI can login, but the patcher doesn't run
07:37.50Silviu-But i do with 2.2.3 :)
07:37.54neeneeSo I'll just wait until later.
07:38.26ramozwait oO
07:38.28ramozi got part 3
07:38.43Silviu-ha ? cool
07:38.55Funkeh`how?
07:39.02Silviu-I got only 2
07:39.09ramozhttp://www.obscurus.eu/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=66
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07:39.48Funkeh`um yeah, I think I'll wait for the official one
07:39.54Silviu-Hmm for 6 mb .. i wait too
07:39.54Silviu-:)
07:40.02ramozworking fine here
07:40.15Silviu-U got the exe too ?
07:40.18ramozpatching now
07:40.19ramozyeah
07:40.34ramozBNUpdater.exe and wow-final.MPQ
07:40.40Silviu-same page ?
07:40.58ramozboth in that rar file
07:41.04Silviu-Ah
07:41.05Silviu-Ok
07:43.22Orionshockahhh
07:43.25Orionshockhelp :\
07:44.42fitz__haha
07:45.01ramozdidnt get any corrupted files
07:45.03fitz__first night in za, we one-shot nalorakk and killed akil'zor
07:45.25CIA-403speeddymon * r54614 10CooldownTimers2/CooldownTimers2.toc:
07:45.25CIA-4CooldownTimers2:
07:45.25CIA-4-Bump TOC
07:45.43ramozalso too bad you cant play in RDP
07:46.17Orionshock... god this really fucks up my addon with GetGossip[Available|Active]Quests() returning triplets
07:46.28Fisker-Anyone been to zul'aman yet+
07:46.28Fisker-?
07:46.34theoddone33I gotta fix my pt3 bar to work with the new manna biscuit things
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07:47.45Elkanoshouldn't that only need an update to PT3?
07:48.03theoddone33perhaps
07:48.10theoddone33I just remember that there's a config file where you can mess with it
07:48.14vhaarrElkano: yeah but you can also modify pt3bar to include it even if it's not in PT3
07:48.41ramozOrionshock: you gotta add a way to config the addon, cause every time you update it i have to reconfig the lua forthe quests i want to do
07:49.55Orionshockno
07:49.58Orionshock:P
07:50.08Orionshockmaybe when Ace3 comes out
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07:50.33fitz__heh, one drop per boss in za?
07:50.48ramoz=(
07:50.52Diao1 item drop yes
07:50.55Diaobut 1 extra also
07:51.03Diaoif you complete under 20 min
07:51.05Diaofor first 4
07:51.07fitz__right
07:51.22fitz__erp late to pick up g/f wave all
07:51.43ramozvhaarr: what does SpyGnome do? The description is kinda.. not so descriptive
07:52.19vhaarrramoz: it lets you spy on your groups addons
07:52.32vhaarrwhat versions they are usig
07:52.55ramozaha
07:53.13Elkanothere is no such thing as spy gnomes *handwaving*
07:53.21vhaarrhaha
07:53.58Elkanobtw: are the new AH categories based on changed return values for GetItemInfo?
07:56.00Fisker-so noone been to zul'aman yet?
07:56.11Elkanook, stupidity on curse > stupidity on wowi
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07:59.48vhaarrramoz: btw, that patch you linked fucked up my install
08:00.39ramozit did?
08:00.41ramozworked fine for me
08:00.42vhaarryes
08:00.46vhaarrand you tried logging in?
08:00.47Orionshockfk... i +x / y = the index of the tuple
08:01.05Speeddymonhmm.. im having issues committing to ace2, but not to other addons
08:01.10ramozno
08:01.14vhaarrSpeeddymon: because ace2 is locked
08:01.19ramozwhat went wrong, vhaarr?
08:01.19Speeddymonah i see
08:01.20vhaarrramoz: then your install is fucked a swell
08:01.23vhaarrramoz: just try
08:01.25ramozcant
08:01.29vhaarrsure you can
08:01.35vhaarropen wow, type in l/p, hit enter
08:01.36ramozim at work, wont run in RDP
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08:01.39vhaarr-> error
08:01.59ramozwhat type of error?
08:02.04Bejittomg sneaky translaters... i never think to update my own code
08:02.19vhaarrSpeeddymon: if you give me a patch I can commit it
08:02.37Silviu-vhaarr he wanted to update the toc only :)
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08:02.59vhaarrno reason to do that
08:03.17hypetechanybody know what mod is wreaking havoc in my guild control interface? :(
08:03.18ramozvhaarr: what error
08:03.21Silviu-Why not ? No more outdated mods ! muhaha
08:03.25CIA-403bejitt * r54615 10Spyglass/ (Spyglass.toc core.lua):
08:03.25CIA-4Spyglass:
08:03.25CIA-4- Fixed a few errors with target info changes.
08:03.25CIA-4- Using SetFormattedText
08:03.25CIA-4- TOC bump
08:03.32vhaarrramoz: you'll see
08:03.33Bejitthypetech: setting the rank name to something else?
08:03.37hypetechyes
08:03.42Bejittwish i knew >_<
08:04.00ramozvhaarr: no, cause im overwriting it with a working 2.2.3 now =(
08:04.13vhaarrramoz: how can I do that?
08:04.18Orionshockso who got the prize for the first clear of ZA on Retail servers?
08:04.24Silviu-Reinstall game ! muhaha
08:04.28vhaarrramoz: I was just downloading the 2.2.0 full patch and reinstalling
08:04.29ramozyou can have a copy of wow on another disk :P
08:04.33vhaarrpff
08:04.41CIA-403speeddymon * r54616 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar: Bump TOC
08:05.20ramoz:P
08:08.58Orionshockwhere is the turn lua errors on option?
08:10.22Kuja^is ixchael here sometimes or not?
08:10.53Orionshock>.O
08:11.07Orionshockso druids get form->form now in 2.3
08:11.39Bejittyea
08:11.46Bejittimplicit /cancelform
08:11.50Orionshock**OverPowered**
08:11.55Bejittalso works with Innervate
08:11.59OrionshockBejitt: no /cancelform was never this good
08:12.03Bejitthaha
08:12.07OrionshockNEVER!!
08:12.16Orionshockwe still had that rendering delay
08:12.20Bejitthah
08:12.28OrionshockNO rendering delay
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08:12.37Bejitthow can i get at the current framexml? wdn isnt updated :/
08:12.51Bejittunless.. the last test version went live
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08:13.34OrionshockBejitt: the UI Extractor tool
08:14.00Bejitt./probe
08:14.43JaxonWasn't Alt+Click supposed to be in the default UI now?
08:15.39Bejittoh, that tool blizz provides actually extracts :O
08:16.39Funkeh`ok eu patch is up for grabs it seems
08:18.13Bejittsucks that the talent inspection is a little broke >_>
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08:19.16Orionshockwtb LibBigBrother
08:19.40Orionshock*LOL it's a hack but it works
08:20.13Orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/77157
08:20.42Fisker-:(
08:21.03Orionshocksorry Fisker- dosn't sound like a chick name
08:21.25CIA-403rabbit * r54617 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Remove 2.3 check.
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08:22.45CIA-403rabbit * r54618 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Remove 2.3 check.
08:23.33Zhinjiodoes autobar let you have more than one bar?
08:23.44CIA-403orionshock * r54619 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (SickOfClickingDailies.toc core.lua):
08:23.44CIA-4SickOfClickingDailies:
08:23.44CIA-4-2.3 Fix; GetGossip[Available|Active]Quests() returns triplets instead of pairs...
08:23.46BejittGameTooltip:SetTalent takes a mysterious third argument now
08:23.58Zhinjioman, drugs are kicking in now. not really focused.
08:24.27ElkanoBejitt, it's not that mysterious. it decides whether it's yours or the inspected unit's talent
08:24.31Elkanoiirc
08:24.37Bejitthah yea, that's what it looks like
08:24.52theoddone33the talent stuff is broke, heh
08:24.56theoddone33on blizz's end
08:24.56ZhinjioHey Elkano. Thanks for getting EBB all happy today. New tracking bar is the hotness.
08:25.06Bejittdidnt see the change on the changes thread, though
08:25.16Elkanowell, I got it working over a month ago ^'
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08:25.28Elkanowell, I got it working over a month ago ^^'
08:25.44Zhinjioeither way, today was the important day *grin*
08:25.45Diaowow
08:25.47Diaouh
08:25.50Zhinjiothanks either way.
08:25.51Zhinjioheh
08:25.52Elkanowell, I got it working over a month ago
08:26.02Diao700 spelldmg on a pally with no spelldmg gear
08:26.03Diaois amazing
08:26.10ElkanoI hate this webbased client :/
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08:26.54Orionshockramoz: you could just svn down the addon that way your changes get "merged" instead of over written
08:27.45CIA-403rabbit * r54620 10oRA2/Participant/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Participant/MainTank: 2.3 fix.
08:28.29Zhinjiowhere's toadkiller when you need him
08:28.35Zhinjio~seen toadkiller
08:28.36purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 6m 5s ago, saying: 'er so whats the real WAU location to dl from?  wwace.com.wau2 or something?'.
08:33.45CIA-403rabbit * r54621 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: Remove 2.3 check.
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08:34.05Diaojesus christ
08:34.08Diaopaladins with spelldmg
08:34.14theoddone33it's great
08:34.17Diaoi just crit a warrior for 1538 with judgement of righteousness
08:34.22Diaoas a full healing specced pally O_O
08:34.35theoddone33I killed four guys before I was at half mana in netherstorm
08:34.42theoddone332-3 times the previous efficiency
08:35.33Funkeh`bbl
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08:36.00CIA-403kuja * r54622 10Historian/locales/Locale-deDE.lua:
08:36.00CIA-4Historian:
08:36.00CIA-4- fixed tooltip display for deDE, thanks to EnSabahNur for catching it
08:36.39theoddone33I keep seeing interface action failed because of an addon
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08:36.50theoddone33I remember reading that there's a slash command to help debug that
08:36.55theoddone33anyone know offhand?
08:37.22Silviu-/console taintlog 1
08:37.23Silviu-?
08:37.28Silviu-and 0 to disable
08:37.43theoddone33that's it
08:37.44theoddone33thanks
08:37.51Ellipsisomg
08:37.54Ellipsisfinally
08:38.03Ellipsisthey stealth-fixed DE autolooting \o/
08:38.06Orionshockdoes SMM fubar the tracking menu?>
08:38.13Ellipsisno
08:38.17Ellipsisworks fine for me
08:38.29Diaooh
08:38.32Diaoso you don't need a mod for it anymore?
08:38.45LukianDiao, that's right!
08:38.49Ellipsisyeap
08:38.52Diaoawesome
08:38.55Diaotime to delete fastdisenchant
08:39.16Lyn<Ellipsis> they stealth-fixed DE autolooting \o/ < awesome, yes!
08:39.18Ellipsisout of all the things they did this patch, that's my favorite so far
08:40.17Orionshockwhat did they fix Ellipsis ?
08:40.22Orionshockah
08:40.47Ellipsisit doesn't stop autolooting after the first DE anymore
08:41.07Ellipsiswhich is like, sexy
08:42.11Bejittused to do that for prospecting too
08:42.21Bejitti always 'fixed' it by opening the mailbox
08:42.38Bejittprospect, open mail, prospect, open mail, etc
08:42.40Diaolol
08:42.45Bejittit worked
08:42.46Diaothat's still an extra click :(
08:42.56Bejitttwo, you have to close the mailbox ;(
08:43.09Diaoesc ;p
08:43.17EllipsisI did it by casting a spell to force-loot
08:43.28Ellipsisbind unending breath to a key, spam it while DEing
08:43.31Diaolol
08:43.36Diaomods ftw
08:43.42Lynanyone from EU here? :<
08:43.43Ellipsiseh, I was too lazy to code a fix XD
08:44.34OrionshockBOO
08:44.36hypetechdo the buffs from teh mad alch elixirs stack with flasks?
08:44.44Kuja^Lyn: yeah
08:44.45OrionshockSMM hides my tracking menu and won't give it back
08:44.46Orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:45.05LynKuja^, when should the server be up again in EU? 11.00 am? or what?
08:45.06Diaolol
08:45.38Kuja^Lyn: yeah
08:45.42Lynmh :(
08:46.06ElkanoLyn, should but as usual wont ;)
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08:46.32Kerafyrmus servers getting a patch
08:46.32Kerafyrmlol
08:46.38EllipsisOrionshock: make sure you enable showing the tracking icon
08:46.38Kerafyrm5am-11am
08:46.47OrionshockEllipsis: ....
08:46.49Orionshocki did
08:46.54Ellipsisthen another addon is hiding it
08:47.01Ellipsisprobable culprits: EBB, TrackerFu
08:47.09Orionshockdon't have trackerFu yet
08:47.18Orionshock<PROTECTED>
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08:47.39ramozKerafyrm: why?
08:47.40Ellipsischeck your EBB settings if you use that
08:47.46Fisker-who cannot defend
08:47.50Orionshockis EBB hiding it?
08:47.54Ellipsisit has an option to
08:47.55Orionshockwth Elkano ?
08:48.02Ellipsisit was a requested feature
08:48.08Ellipsisbecause it shows tracking as a buff bar
08:48.14Orionshockright
08:48.19Ellipsisyou can always disable it if you don't like it
08:48.20Orionshockdoes right clicking it give a menu?
08:48.23Ellipsisyes
08:48.26OrionshockO.O
08:48.33Orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:49.55OrionshockElkano: can you sort the tracking bar to the top plz :D
08:50.10Ellipsismake it a separate group
08:50.22Orionshockmeh - f that
08:50.27Ellipsis...
08:50.36Ellipsishe's not going to implement a feature that's already implemented...
08:51.38krkawhy not? those are the easiest!
08:52.14Kerafyrmoh
08:52.15Kerafyrmmy bad
08:52.18Kerafyrm9am-11-am
08:52.19Kerafyrm<PROTECTED>
08:52.29Kerafyrmwhat kind of software is my q
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08:52.47Ellipsislame
08:52.54Ellipsiswhy couldn't they have done that during tuesday maintenance?
08:52.55Elkano_I hate these web stations at my uni and the webbased irc client :/
08:53.28Elkano_and wrt EBB: it does hide the tracking button by default snce with EBB there is no deen for it
08:53.45CIA-403apal * r54623 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:
08:53.45CIA-4Babble-2.2:
08:53.45CIA-4-Tradeskill : update koKR localization
08:53.52Elkano_but you can disable the hiding in its menu
08:54.08Ellipsis[12:49:53 am] <Orionshock> Elkano: can you sort the tracking bar to the top plz :D
08:54.43Elkano_put it in its own group :P
08:54.48Ellipsis:D
08:54.51Tekkubo/~ Someday you will die somehow and somethin's gonna steal your carbon o/~
08:55.42evl~toc
08:55.42purlthe current WoW Interface Number is : 20100
08:55.46Ellipsis...fail
08:55.51Elkano_whatever it will be I already feel sorry for it :P
08:55.57evlpurl fails
08:55.58purlI fail?  I FAIL?  NO, YOU FAIL!!!
08:56.00evl20300 isn't it?
08:56.02Elkano_~literal toc
08:56.02purl"toc" is "<reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100"
08:56.22Tekkub~COC
08:56.30Ellipsiso.O
08:56.35Elkano_no, purl, toc is <reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300
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08:56.55gladiator09_1047http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=1579358
08:57.03Ellipsismake it go away
08:57.11Elkano_~literal toc
08:57.12purl"toc" is "<reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20100"
08:57.19Kuja^no, toc is <reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300
08:57.29Ellipsisyou guys fail at purl
08:57.31Elkano_no purl toc is <reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300
08:57.34Kuja^purl: no, toc is <reply> the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300
08:57.34purlokay, Kuja^
08:57.46Elkano_hmpf ^^
08:57.49EllipsisXD
08:57.53Kuja^:D
08:57.55ramoz~toc
08:57.56purlthe current WoW Interface Number is : 20300
08:58.02ramozwoho! i win
08:59.48Elkano_~asl
08:59.48purlOld enough, yes please, my place.
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09:00.07Fisker-hi Elkano_
09:01.24Bejittbah the inspect talent bug is in GetTalentInfo
09:01.36Bejittfigures
09:02.37TekkubI need an addon to name StealYourCarbon
09:02.37Elkano_~rape Fisker-
09:02.38purlACTION takes Fisker- behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
09:03.00Fisker-awsome
09:03.03Fisker-+e
09:03.10Elkano_Tekkub, an addon that doesn't show you the way to your corpse
09:03.25Tekkubheh
09:03.33Tekkubneed a practical use though
09:04.35Elkano_hmm.. eep track of damage taken and average max hitpoints and tell how often one would have died already
09:04.49aeon|capullogood morning
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09:05.42Fisker-are you threatening me_
09:05.44Fisker-?
09:05.54Elkano_*kabooom*
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09:08.05CIA-403evl * r54624 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.toc:
09:08.05CIA-4SorrenTimers:
09:08.05CIA-4- Bumped TOC to 20300
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09:09.17Lyn:o
09:10.57|Pixel|poor Fisker-
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09:20.06Orionshocki love huntards
09:20.12Orionshockand i hate them but i love them too
09:20.18Jaxon:(
09:20.19Orionshockand their bitching and moaning about autoshot
09:20.37Lyndo they have now the 1 yard min range? cause there's nothing in the patch notes
09:20.47Orionshockbecause of that they change the macros to attemtp to cast autoshot not toggle it
09:21.23neeneeHuzzah @ duo-core support :)
09:21.42Lyn:D
09:22.13neeneeAnd I wonder if Vendor Discounts work for flying mounts :)
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09:22.20Ellipsisthey do
09:22.35neeneeHurray
09:22.41JaxonOrionshock: macros never toggled Autoshot, I used a Steady/Auto castsequence one to great success
09:23.38Orionshockbefore they did
09:23.57Orionshockwe what ever the fuck was going on it was fucking with auto shot
09:24.13neeneeI wonder if loot dropping in old-world instances means the trash loot is blue too.
09:24.20neeneeWould make it a bit too easy to get stuff
09:24.22Orionshockthe net result is that /cast lasserate  /cast maul now works a fuck of a lot better
09:24.29NeoTronlol
09:24.35NeoTron2916 DPS on akama
09:24.46Ellipsishmm
09:24.53Ellipsiswhat time do daily quests reset?
09:24.54NeoTronnot only that but we wiped and when he respawned the channelers weren't channeling and the shade started unbanished
09:25.00NeoTronthe whole fight, start to finish, took 1m5s
09:25.28FireAllianceNXdoes anyone know if Bongos works with the new Mind Control pet bar?
09:25.30Bejitto_O
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09:25.57Ellipsistry it and see? :P
09:26.22FireAllianceNXI'd have find something I can MC >.> :P
09:26.39Ellipsisthe lovely thing about MC is that there's humanoids everywhere
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09:27.09FireAllianceNXI had a hard time figuring out how to get shadowform to work, I don't know if my brain will work with MC lol
09:27.10AnduinLotharwhere's the best place to post Omen bugs?
09:27.16Bejittawww there's no right clicking on tablet? :(
09:27.21Ellipsisthe Omen thread
09:28.00[Ammo]AnduinLothar: depends if it's omen or the threatlib
09:28.08AnduinLothargood question
09:28.09[Ammo]omen in the raid forums on wowace, threat in the libs forum on wowace
09:28.21[Ammo]omen = display, threat = actual data
09:29.00AnduinLotharok, well the problem is this. I'm a ret pally and my threat shows up fine on my screen, but everyone else in the raid sees my threat way higher, like it's not taking into account the new 30% threat redux
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09:29.22[Ammo]that sounds like a threat-1.0 bug
09:29.53[Ammo]it's weird though, the data you see is the data you transmit to the rest
09:30.01AnduinLotharyou'd think that...
09:30.06Higdurstrange indeed
09:30.39Ellipsisunless they're using KTM, in which case all bets are off
09:30.44AnduinLotharthey aren't
09:31.22CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54625 10SmoothDurability/ (SmoothDurability.lua SmoothDurability.toc TinyGratuity.lua): SmoothDurability: replace tooltipscanning with appropriate api call, need servers back for testing
09:31.42CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54626 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.toc: FishermansFriend: bump toc
09:32.02Ellipsiswaaaait, there's an API call for that now?
09:32.13[Ammo]yarr
09:32.28Ellipsisnew in 2.3?
09:32.34[Ammo]-- durability, maximum = GetInventoryItemDurability(slotid),
09:32.35[Ammo]-- durability, maximum = GetContainerItemDurability(bagid, slotid)
09:32.37[Ammo]yarr
09:32.42Ellipsissweet!
09:33.02Lyn_:D
09:34.28CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54627 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: make sure we have a tooltip for the cost with :SetInventoryItem()
09:35.24Fisker-awesome
09:35.26Bejitt" ScrollingMessageFrame:SetInsertMode" hmmmmmmmm
09:35.31Fisker-probably gonna be owned by stupid stuff now
09:35.40Fisker-Ventrilo 3.0.0 out
09:35.41Fisker-and WoW 2.3.0
09:35.45Bejittwait, that's... n/m
09:35.51Fisker-and our raid usually starts after people come back from work
09:35.55Fisker-so yay wait times
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09:37.35Bejitt[Ammo]: where was that documented? >_<
09:37.59neeneeAnd GossipSkip
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09:38.22[Ammo]Bejitt: changes thread page 12
09:38.25Lyn_neenee, what? really?
09:38.27[Ammo]on US forums
09:38.44neeneeLyn_, yup, they added class-colours :)
09:38.52neeneeAnd gossip-skip to many NPCs :)
09:39.04Lyn_nice :D
09:39.10neenee:)
09:39.42Bejitti thought they propograted changes to the main post, or therabouts :(
09:40.08CIA-403ammo * r54628 10oRA2/ (Libs/ Participant/Participant.lua embeds.xml oRA2.toc): oRA2: use the 2.3 durability stuff, nolonger use gratuity/deformat
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09:45.49Orionshockso version 3.0 of vent don't work with prevoius versions?
09:47.36Kuja^good question
09:47.41Fisker-nope
09:47.52Fisker-and the new user control system is retarded
09:47.58Fisker-basically it's more limited than 2.3 guests
09:48.00Ellipsisoh boy
09:48.07Fisker-which means you now have to go make accounts for each person in the guild
09:48.13Ellipsisjust when I thought vent could not achieve higher levels of suckage
09:48.55JaxonWhat are people using these days as a "one button mount solution?"
09:49.42BejittNEW - falling = IsFalling() -- Determine if the player is falling <-- whatwhat :O
09:50.02evlNice
09:50.30evlmaybe you can make an addon called HelpImFalling which just yells "Help, I'm falling and I might not be able to get up" whever you fall?
09:50.53evlJaxon: /dismount
09:50.56evlouch, :()
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09:51.04theoddone33slowfall/levitate macros
09:51.19[Ammo]probably have the [falling] conditional too then
09:51.21Kerafyrmequip parachute cloak
09:51.22evlJaxon: /dismount;/stopmacro [mounted];/use [flyable] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake; Reins of the Black War Tiger
09:51.23Xion`question is, would a simple jump trigger it? :o
09:51.24Kerafyrmuse parachute cloak :P
09:51.41Bejittwoah cool, GetLatestThreeSenders works away from the mailbox
09:51.47Jaxonevl that works, but I'm looking for something that supports more than a few mounts.
09:51.52Nargiddleyyes jumping triggers it
09:51.59evlJaxon: /userandom
09:52.21Jaxonevl: 255 character limit.
09:52.24DJNWShould it trigger it, though?  Slowfall doesn't work on the 'down' part of a jump...
09:52.39evlJaxon: make a mod.
09:52.56Ellipsis[falling] would make druids OP in TBC =[
09:53.21Ellipsisinstant cast flight form ftl
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09:53.32DJNWinfact, depending on how it's worked out, is it triggered by walking downhill, or do your feet actually have to be off the ground?
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09:54.19Orionshockanyone got a link to the previous version of vent?
09:55.01Jaxonevl: I'm not big on reinviting wheels, which is why I asked if anyone knew if one already existed that was already out there :P
09:55.11Higdurgoogle ventrilomix?
09:56.44Ellipsisventmix doesn't do anything you can't do already... >_>
09:57.18Higdurindeed, but it's a practical way to get hold of the old vent versions :)
09:57.54theoddone33I really find it funny how hard it is for ret paladins to kill a holy paladin
09:58.06Higdur:)
09:58.18theoddone33they're even easier to tank than warriors because they have one stun every 40s (min) and that's it
09:58.37theoddone33unless they use like... seal of justice or something
09:58.50Higdurhehe
09:59.20HigdurBEs can silence though... once
09:59.36EllipsisDJNW: I think it's probably a safe bet that any time your character does the falling animation, it will return true
10:00.09Ellipsisso, say, sliding down a hill will say you're falling, but a normal jump up and down won't
10:00.34Higdurquiet easy to test though I guess
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10:05.14Bejittdo i want to do "table.remove(t,i)" or just "t[i] = nil" ? or is there really a difference?
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10:06.15Nargiddleytable.remove will move things above i down
10:06.16vhaarrBejitt: generally, use table.remove when dealing with indexed tables, and t[k] when dealing with keyed tables
10:06.29CIA-403nargiddley 07Beta * r54633 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceGUI: Begone Ugly EditBox hacks
10:06.52Ellipsisbuy one, get one free?
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10:07.07Bejittvhaarr: hmm kk thanks
10:07.23Fisker-noes
10:07.27vhaarrBuy one, and Ellipsis will deliver me to your door.
10:07.28Fisker-i bought vhaarr before it was on sale
10:07.31Ellipsiso rly?
10:07.32Fisker-now i'll just return it
10:07.38Fisker-and get my moneys back
10:07.44Chompersor store credit
10:07.50Ellipsisdo I get to stay and enjoy the brand new vhaarr?
10:08.08vhaarrEllipsis: of course, and you have to demonstrate it to the buyer as well.
10:08.13Ellipsishot
10:08.15vhaarrhow things work, etc
10:08.32Fisker-yeah store credit is cool Chompers
10:08.37Bejittahhh table.remove reindexes, that makes sense
10:08.41Ellipsisdepends what store
10:09.04vhaarrso .. where are the EU servers?
10:09.05vhaarrzz
10:09.18Fisker-indeed
10:09.26Ellipsisthey're busy hating you guys
10:09.45Silviu-extended maintanence :P
10:09.47Fisker-fuck yeah
10:09.56Fisker-http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert <-no new info yet
10:10.07Ellipsismeanwhile I'm ingame but have nothing to do :(
10:10.15Higdurnerf
10:10.41Higdurlets hope servers are up in 1,5h when I'll get home :)
10:11.03Silviu-maintenance*
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10:11.24SunTsuAs long as the servers are back up in 10 hours I'm fine *ducks and runs away*
10:11.33Silviu-Us had 2 more hours extended right ?
10:12.52CIA-403speeddymon * r54634 10FuBar_TalkFu/ (FuBar_TalkFu.toc TalkFu.lua): FuBar_TalkFu: Change VoiceChatButton to VoiceChatTalkers and up TOC
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10:19.08CIA-403speeddymon * r54635 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: FuBar_DurabilityFu: Going along with the 2.3 checks, update TOC FTW?
10:20.12cladhaireI need four more peopel to log into alliance us stormrage with gnome/dwarf so i can have a guild/guild bank for testing purposes.
10:20.15cladhaireplease?
10:20.29JaxonSilviu-: 3 extra hours.
10:20.38[Ammo]sorry EU
10:20.39Diao1 moment cladhaire
10:20.44Ellipsisomw cladhaire
10:20.46Orionshocklol
10:20.46Diaouh
10:20.49cladhairethanks guys
10:20.51Nargiddleyone sec cladhaire
10:20.52Orionshocki would but im mid kara atm
10:20.54Diaobtw
10:21.01Diaoguild bank requires 100g for first slot >.<
10:21.09Orionshockiirc it was 10
10:21.14cladhaireyes
10:21.15cladhairei know
10:21.16Diaonope, it got bumped to 100
10:21.24Diaook brt
10:21.27Diaomaking the char now
10:22.09cladhaireif Diao and Ellipsis hop on, that makes 10 :P
10:22.17Ellipsislogging in as we speak :P
10:22.20Diaosame
10:22.21Orionshockclad you gona make us a gbank mod?
10:22.22Diaogame loading
10:22.29Diaoforgot to turn off addons first :(
10:22.32cladhaireOrionshock: what kind of mod do you want
10:22.34Ellipsisheh me too
10:22.35Diaoso it takes a while to load on new char
10:22.36cladhairebut probably not
10:22.41cladhairethis if for the API documentation
10:22.43Lyn_maaaan.. *hex hex on eu server*
10:22.44cladhairewhich also benefits you
10:23.02Orionshockmostly an AIOI but it's allready like that so it'd be a AIOI w/o all the graphiz
10:23.10cladhairelolol
10:23.17cladhaireDiao: are you auto-declining?
10:23.24[Ammo]I'll wait for OneGuildBank
10:23.26Diaonah it was loading
10:23.33Orionshockwell one that dosn't look so FUGLY as the bliz art
10:23.35Diaofor the cg sequence
10:23.44cladhaireah okay :P
10:23.53cladhairenow don't delete these chars until i get the charter signed
10:23.53JaxonOkay, I'm logged in, where do you need me, clad?
10:24.00Orionshockwell the OneGuildBank would atleast let me move it and thats something i really want
10:24.01Ellipsisyou know, esc cancels the intro Diao :P
10:24.03cladhaireanyone wanna march with me to IF?
10:24.05Diaoyeah
10:24.10Diaomy game takes like 20 min to load
10:24.13Diaocause of all my addons
10:24.14Diaoi'll go :P
10:24.18Lukiancladhaire, why IF? :p
10:24.20cladhairegoing now
10:24.21Ellipsisooh me me!
10:24.22cladhairelets rock!
10:24.35cladhaireLukian: cause i need to turn in my charter
10:24.42Lukianyou can do that in SW
10:24.52cladhairewe're in coldridge valley
10:24.55Lukianoh lol
10:25.35Lukianah, you dragged your charter out lowbie hunting or? :o
10:25.35Speeddymonis there a command (script or slash) i can run to clear the post queue?
10:25.35Speeddymonerr
10:25.35Speeddymonmt
10:25.50JaxonI'm in a heroic underbog right now, so if you need me for anythign specific (HELPCLAD) yell at me in here
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10:26.18cladhairehehe no problem
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10:31.35Lyn_man, eu servers are up, but not all :(
10:32.27Higdursounds like RC is up \o/
10:32.41Lyn_?
10:32.46Higdurlets just hope the patch is downloaded on my comp when I get back home hten
10:32.54Higdurravencrest-eu
10:33.02Lyn_yeah, ravencrest is online
10:33.42Higdurgood stuff
10:34.08Higdurno, question is how many hours it's going to take until one can log in properly with addons working etc :/
10:34.14Higdur*now
10:34.45LukianI only had two addons erroring at me :p
10:35.47Lyn_i have only 10 addons activated.. maybe i'll have no errors, but servers still not up :<
10:36.11CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54636 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: bugfix for 2.3 compat
10:37.14Diaomost addons were updated pretty quickly
10:37.26Diaoonly ones i had errors from were like.. capping and improved RWF
10:37.51Arrowmasteryeah i just disabled both of those
10:37.53Lukianyeah capping was pestering me too
10:38.09Orionshockwhat cha doing? -- trying to get this mod working - it's called targettargettargettargettargettarget , but for some reason i keep seeing kevinbacon
10:38.16ArrowmasterimprovedRWF is sorta abandoned and i was meaning to get around and update it
10:38.19vhaarranyone have a 2.2.3 -> 2.3.0 enGB download link?
10:38.21Ellipsisthe only error I got was when I tried to use NShakedown, and that's just because the  raid warning stuff changed
10:38.34Lukianvhaarr, [[Patch mirrors]]
10:38.35Ellipsisother than that, everything went smoothly
10:38.40Lukianon wowwiki :p
10:38.41Lyn_vhaarr, http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors ?
10:38.46vhaarrthanks
10:39.09[Ammo]hmm how do you turn on class coloring in chat?
10:39.16Lukianprat
10:39.30Lyn_someone said class coloring is now in the default blizz ui
10:39.37Diaoafaik it's just in guild tab?
10:39.39[Ammo]yeah someone said it was in efault UI
10:39.43TekkubI demand people create a draenei on Area 52 and sign my guild charter
10:39.48Tekkub<--- Mishutka
10:39.51Diaolol
10:40.20Lyn_so no class coloring in default chat? :/
10:40.21Ellipsiswhat are we, charter slaves?
10:40.26Tekkubyes
10:40.33TekkubI write addons for you people
10:40.53Ellipsisoh, ok
10:40.53Diaonot that i know of lyn
10:40.53Ellipsisbrt
10:40.54JaxonTekkub: give me a second to get a third copy of WoW open
10:40.59Lyn_damn :/
10:41.17Diaoloading now
10:41.35DJNWHas the update server fallen over? I'm getting a refused connection error...
10:41.50CIA-403mikk * r54637 10ReadyCheckAnnouncer/ReadyCheckAnnouncer.toc: ReadyCheckAnnouncer: toc 20300
10:42.16CIA-403mikk * r54638 10IgnoreMore/IgnoreMore.toc: IgnoreMore: toc 20300
10:42.29Fisker-FUCKING GG
10:42.38Fisker-they didn't fix the login crash bug
10:42.49Lukianhehe
10:42.50Fisker-it was there from day one
10:42.52Lukianthat was fun
10:42.57Diaologin crash bug?
10:42.59Fisker-that's fucking genius
10:43.05JaxonTekkub: do you need me to run anywhere or what
10:43.09Tekkubgot em all thanks guys
10:43.11Fisker-if you get dc'ed you crash the next time you login
10:43.15JaxonBLAST YOU
10:43.32CIA-403mikk * r54639 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.toc: ChatThrottleLib: toc 20300
10:43.40Tekkubin the ass?
10:43.47Ellipsiscan I watch?
10:44.09Diaooh
10:44.14Ellipsisk who else needs charters signed?
10:44.18Funkeh`Ellipsis, You're always watching, nede you participating more
10:44.31EllipsisFunkeh`: I don't know that anyone here wants me blasting them in the ass
10:44.36Ellipsisthat would be kinda...weird
10:44.46Funkeh`You never know
10:45.50xerawxbastards nerfed Dartol's rod of transfurbolgification
10:45.58xerawxcan't use it while moving
10:46.05Tekkubbah that was the best part
10:46.06Diaok
10:46.12Tekkubbesides the furry cock
10:46.13Diaolet me know if anyone else needs charters
10:46.21Diaoi'll be browsing forums
10:46.33xerawxand there's still no furbolg dance. this is an outrage!
10:46.34Tekkubclad was in need
10:46.43Diaoyeah we got him already
10:47.11CIA-403bejitt * r54640 10Spyglass/ (core.lua menu.lua):
10:47.11CIA-4Spyglass:
10:47.11CIA-4- Added single player data removal
10:47.11CIA-4- Added data clear command
10:47.32starlonWell I see svn's still up
10:47.50Ellipsisalways a good thing on patch day
10:48.23starlonNow if files was available
10:48.29starlonI'd be happy
10:48.44Funkeh`whats wrong with it?
10:48.53Ellipsisit was up and down earlier when I tried to update
10:49.05Diaofiles worked fine for me
10:49.06Diaoaround mm
10:49.12Diao10pm PST
10:49.15ChompersFisker- - that crash bug sucks balls
10:49.26starlonYeah I'm getting no connection atm
10:49.31Fisker-yup Chompers
10:49.33Ellipsisgive it a few mins and try again, imo
10:49.36evlHope they fixed the alt-tab crash bug
10:49.36Chompersjust happened to me
10:49.36Fisker-and for some reason i get disconnected when dying
10:49.51starlonevl, oh so it's not just me
10:50.10evleveryone has it
10:50.15starlonso annoying
10:50.34xerawxhaven't seen that one.. is it only if you play full screen?
10:51.03evldunno, it's very annoying
10:51.17starlonYeah it happens when I'm in full screen.
10:51.20xerawxi play in maximized windowed mode and it alt-tabs alright
10:51.25starlonIt's the only way I play though
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10:51.46xerawxalthough sometimes it does this weird thing where it only renders part of the window when its in the background
10:51.50EllipsisI've never had that one, even when I used to play fullscreen
10:51.55Fisker-it's probably an addon though
10:51.57Ellipsisyeah, that's a windows bug
10:52.04starlonIt happens without addons
10:52.19Diaowindowed maximized is awesome for alt-tabbing
10:52.25Diaoexcept for the drop in framerate :(
10:52.35Lukianwhat's alt+tabbing? *pats linux* :D
10:52.38xerawxi don't notice much of one, but this is a new box
10:52.43xerawx8800 gts
10:52.53Ellipsismy framerate sucks no matter what I do
10:52.54Ellipsis>_>
10:53.03Lukianheh
10:53.06break19Ellipsis: yea, I bet they get it fixed fast tho, unlike the last mac-only bug that was introduced in the previous patch.. it wasnt fixed til now...
10:53.08Lukianlower farclip :p
10:53.15Ellipsis6800 + all graphics settings maxed = meh
10:53.18LukianEllipsis, /console farclip 177
10:53.25Lukianlol, maxxed
10:53.27Ellipsisbreak19: no, I mean, a bug in Windows
10:53.31Lukianof course you are gonna have low fps p
10:53.34Lukian:p*
10:53.39EllipsisI like my game to look pretty
10:53.51EllipsisI could probably tweak a few things down, meh
10:53.59starlonwtf this chick's saying she's running WoW on Linux through Parallels software. Did they get DirectX support in the past 6 months?
10:54.03Ellipsisbut I will never give up my antialiasing...never
10:54.06xerawxi used to play on a powerbook g4 that wasn't even minimum spec, with a 32mb geforce 4mx lol
10:54.15xerawxlowest everything, my fps still sucked
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10:54.24Lukianstarlon, I just use wine, fps is the same as windows
10:54.25Ellipsismy fps isn't the worst part tbh
10:54.26Towbarhi folks
10:54.26xerawxnow i have everything maxed at 1680x1050
10:54.31break19xerawx: my ibook has a 32M radeon 9550 :P
10:54.33xerawxand its like a whole new game
10:54.56Ellipsisthe worst part is my hard drive (5200rpm) combined with the fact that I only have 1GB RAM so I'm almost constantly paging
10:55.16break19i shoulda splurged and gotten the pb...
10:55.23Towbarguys I am sure you are all sick of being asked but is there any time estimate as to when the WAU server will be back up?
10:55.31break19listen to the whiner.. I have a 4200rpm laptop drive, 1G ram as well.. :P
10:55.51Lukianbreak19, omg a 9550 would suck to play on :D
10:55.53break19Towbar: uhm.. it has to go down first?
10:56.19TowbarWAU isnt working atm
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10:56.29EllipsisTowbar: just give it a minute and try again
10:56.39Towbarahhh ok , must be connection limit
10:56.40Ellipsisit's a little spotty, but mostly working
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10:57.20xerawxyeah those ppc notebooks just don't cut it for wow, even the last models weren't great
10:57.25break19it's being pounded like a cheap porn star in a 80s XXX film
10:57.32Towbaraye
10:57.32HealthAnyone know where you buy vindicator's gear?
10:57.39xerawxand the new macbooks could be ok, if it weren't for the gma video
10:57.41JaxonI'm told I play WoW on a renderfarm.
10:57.44Towbarprobably in teh officers barracks
10:57.45JaxonMacPro :D
10:58.44HigdurHealth: won't be activated until Season 3 I think?
10:58.53Lukianwhat Higdur said
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10:58.59break19xerawx: they use stock intel mobos.. which is why they use integrated gma's
10:59.05Higdurie next week most likely
10:59.20HealthI think you could buy veteran's gear just after the 2.1 patch before s2 start?
10:59.48Diaoyes
10:59.50Healthhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/ringnecktrink.jpg - from where is that taken? It was never in Champion's hall on PTR
10:59.55Diaonew gear won't be in til next week
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11:01.04Fisker-btw
11:01.04Fisker-2007/11/14 11:49:29-2178-x1]: ImprovedRWF\Core.lua:412: attempt to call method 'SetTimeVisible' (a nil value)
11:01.07Fisker-anyone else getting that?
11:01.20JaxonHow long have I been sitting in Ironforge when clad's guild all logged out?
11:01.29cladhairelol
11:01.35Higdursomeone was complaining about iimproved RWF before
11:01.38ArrowmasterFisker-: disable ImprovedRWF
11:01.38Diaoyes Fisker-
11:01.47Arrowmasterneeds a complete rewrite
11:01.55Fisker-QQ
11:02.11Fisker-but i don't want shitty oversized crap /rw's
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11:02.32Lukiandelete it!
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11:02.36Lukiandoo it now.
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11:02.59JaxonBagnon doesn't like to remember Scale setting :(
11:03.11Midnightrnoob question inc, wowaceupdater just gives errors.
11:03.15Crinalso WAU 1.9 wont work anymore ?
11:03.18ArrowmasterFisker-: blizzard completely changed the RWF so i doubt iRWF even does anything now if that one line was fixed
11:03.19CrinalMidnightr :D
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11:03.30Tain_same here
11:03.31DJNWmmmmmh, it's WaU2 giving me errors...
11:03.48CrinalWaU fuckd so we crashed sumthing atleast ! :>
11:03.57Crinalnot the site but :<
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11:05.16Crinaloh well trying to update WaU :P
11:05.18Morodan-Khadgarfiles.wowace.com is giving me connection reset error
11:05.27Diaowhat changed in RWF o_O
11:05.36*** join/#wowace msTain (i=user@e176024081.adsl.alicedsl.de)
11:05.38Midnightrsame problems here with the updater
11:05.42LukianMorodan-Khadgar, stop hammering the server :p
11:05.48tangedynfiles.wowace.com down i guess..
11:05.54Crinal=)
11:05.56Xion`big surprise :P
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11:06.09CrinalXion` did u read front page ? :>
11:06.13msTainlet's hope it's not another "oops moment"
11:06.24Xion`yep Crinal :D
11:06.26Crinal"Just try to crash this server! " :D
11:06.32MorodanKhadgarlol, I want my addons >.<
11:06.52Xion`I updated before it went down
11:07.00Crinalgot half updated tough :>
11:07.06Xion`but I bet all addons have been updated again when I get home in 5 hours
11:07.22Crinalthere was updates like 20min ect whilea go
11:07.25CIA-403phyber * r54641 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Fizzle.toc):
11:07.25CIA-4Fizzle:
11:07.25CIA-4- Update to use GetInventoryDurability(). Not yet tested.
11:07.35Xion`yeah
11:08.15Xion`svn still seems to be working
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11:08.35BejittCrayonLib doesnt have a 'color based on r,g,b' >:(
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11:09.57Synnethany ideas why when i click "Interface" in the wow system menu my UI disappears (until i hit escape) ?
11:10.38Crinalhmmm so files.wowace.com is down ? :>
11:10.40JaxonBecause the Interface options screen takes up the whole of the UI, like the default Map?
11:10.47starlonThat's the word
11:11.49Synnethwell the map shows, but when i hit interface i literally get nothing. its as if i was taking a screenshot with the UI disabled. i dont have my normal UI or the interface dialog
11:12.10Ncl8Crinal, i cant access it either
11:12.19Crinalu wont get whole interface screen up ?
11:12.28JaxonSynneth: try with your mods disabled, doesn't Skinner mess with that screen?
11:12.36Ncl8nope
11:12.39Xion`yeah, was just about to say that Jaxon
11:12.43Ncl8i get a bunch of errors
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11:12.58Synnethyea, its my next step, just wondering if it was a common problem and people knew which mod needed to be updated to fix it
11:13.03Arrowmasterim having a weird issue with the interface options screen too
11:13.10Saladinhaha people in general chat: "why has all my buttons been removed?!"
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11:13.12LukianO RLY?
11:13.19Xion`<3 patchdays
11:13.20Saladinand im sitting here on my all ace addons, its all working
11:13.24LukianSaladin, yeah my housemate asked me that :p
11:13.24CrinalXion` yeah :D
11:13.31Arrowmasterevery time i open it and close it my chat box is open like i pressed enter
11:13.32Lukianmy buttons got toggled on! :(
11:13.33SaladinOnly elkbuffbars is borkd
11:13.34Fisker-how many badges from a full karazhan clear?
11:13.37Xion`always end up raiding with all addons disabled
11:13.44Ncl8~10?
11:13.44purlThere are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
11:13.47Crinalfisker 2badges from each boss ?
11:13.49Diaoabout 20
11:13.51Xion`1-2
11:13.53Xion`badges
11:13.59Crinalah 1-2
11:14.01Xion`dunno if it's random or based on boss
11:14.04Diaoit's
11:14.06Fisker-based on boss
11:14.07Diao1 badge for early boss
11:14.08Arrowmasterdont coult the ones from chess event
11:14.08Fisker-prince gives 3 btw
11:14.09Crinalatleast chess event gives 2 :>
11:14.10Diao2 for middle
11:14.13Diaoand 3 for prince/nb
11:14.19Arrowmastersince those could get fucked up
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11:15.53Bibi_NOES
11:16.00Bibi_Igor's mass auction doesn't work anymore !
11:16.09BibiWhy is life so cruel ? :(
11:16.17CrinalBibi right to u !
11:16.35JaxonBibi: I'm a big fan of the new Auctioneer's posting stuffs.
11:16.40Xion`anyone know if mobhealth addon is going to be redundant with this patch?
11:16.50BibiI hate auctioneer :/
11:16.59Bibithere are so many things in it.
11:17.10JaxonHave you tried out the new one?
11:17.22Bibiwhy would I try something I hate ?
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11:17.27Bibiexcept if you tell me to do it of course
11:17.31Bibiwhich is why i'm on the page right now
11:17.36Xion`only good thing I remember from auctioneer is that "save price" thingie for when you put up lots of the same stuff
11:17.37JaxonFind the AuctioneerAdvanced page
11:17.55JaxonIts one of their betas.  I really only use the smaller browse formatting and the post page.
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11:18.53Bibidoes it use the 2.3 features to scan the whole AH and things like that ?
11:19.01msTain20
11:19.07JaxonNot a clu,e I haven't used it yet today
11:19.08msTainoops
11:19.11vithosthat came in 2.3?
11:19.16RigbyJust wondering is the WoWAceUpdater working for anyone?
11:19.20vithosRigby: no
11:19.23msTainnope
11:19.24Xion`Rigby the site is down
11:19.27RigbyOk cool not just me ;)
11:19.34Bibiblame Kaelten imo.
11:19.38RigbyYeh saw that was just making sure since my routers been playing up recently.
11:19.40Ozguliouch
11:19.47Ozguliaddons are seriously broken
11:19.50Rigbyyup
11:19.55Ozgulimy beautiful UI, all messed up
11:20.20[Ammo]mine work well yay
11:20.27Xion`atleast it's easyish to fix if you only use ace addons
11:20.28POi_Staris WAY running?
11:20.28Rigbymines intact, just got the occassional error
11:20.32Rigbyand cartographer is messed up
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11:20.33POi_Star*WAU
11:20.44POi_Starok ok, site down...
11:20.45POi_Star;)
11:20.48Grumdoes the animal boss in the cellar give any badges? :D
11:20.54Xion`doubt it
11:21.29Grumhmm so Kara gives 24 badges? (11 bosses, 2 per but NB/PM +1)
11:21.55CodayusOne for Attuman.
11:21.57Xion`first bosses prolly only drops 1
11:22.06CodayusAnd 0 for Opera, I believe.  Probably a bug.
11:22.10Grumlol
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11:22.17Xion`I'd say when you go in from backdoor they start dropping 2+
11:22.24CodayusMoroes and Miaden give 2, I understand.
11:22.32CodayusMost odd.
11:22.44Crinal2bad that patch wont offer much for meh :<
11:22.46Xion`badges overload, prices on nethers are gonna drop like mad
11:22.52Crinaljust 1 instance more to clear :<
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11:23.05Xion`yep
11:23.05CodayusA lot of badges will be sucked out of the system by the new gear though...
11:23.09ThiefMasterhi.. is the update server down?
11:23.10CodayusFor a while.
11:23.10Wobineveryone will spend their badges on gear =)
11:23.12Wobinnot nethers =)
11:23.12starlonI haven't sold a nether in over a month
11:23.15CrinalThiefMaster yes it is :<
11:23.16Xion`yes ThiefMaster
11:23.24CrinalXion` haxed it down !½
11:23.37Xion`Wobin maybe for the first 1-2 weeks but alot of players already have better gear
11:24.01Grumwell i normally get about 30 badges a week
11:24.04CodayusNot THAT many.  If your running Kara...you probably can use a few pieces of badge gear...
11:24.14Grumwith kara+zul giving badges that will be an easy 75 a week
11:24.25Xion`hmm good point Codayus
11:24.26GrumCodayus: alts running kara ;D
11:24.27Crinaldont forget heroic dailys
11:24.34CodayusBut the alts will need the gear.  :-D
11:24.37Grumbut 20+ badges for ~2h30m work
11:24.56Grumyou could even do kara+zul on 1 evening and be done with it in ~4.5hrs
11:25.10Crinalhmmm so hammering WaU wont help ? :<
11:25.11Grumand get ~35-50 badges orso :D
11:25.15Grumerm 35-40
11:25.16Xion`that'd be pretty imba Grum :P
11:25.16RigbyJust wondering anyone from Hellscream here? ;)
11:25.25CrinalRigby EU or US ?
11:25.27Jaxon2 Badges per daily quest, plus whatever is in that instance.
11:25.32RigbyEU
11:25.33Grumlol
11:25.40GrumJaxon: how is it random btw?
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11:25.48Grumrandom per day? or random per person per day?
11:25.53JaxonRandom per day
11:26.01Grumserverwide the same heroic then right?
11:26.07JaxonStarted with Ramparts, today is Underbog.
11:26.14JaxonJust about finished until our shaman disappeared.
11:26.14Xion`worldwide probably
11:26.21pacroon<Inquires about when files.wowace.com will be up disregarding the fact that 200 ppl already asked and not caring about hard working people>
11:26.22Grumas long as it is serverwide :p
11:26.23Xion`or continent wide anyway
11:26.49JaxonThe non-heroic quest has been Shattered Halls twice already.
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11:27.08Xion`that's cuz SH is a pain in the ass and noone really wants to play it :P
11:27.12RigbyCrinal you on EU or US?
11:27.31Jaxon2.2 or 2.1 nerfed Heroic Shattered Halls pretty easy, we've got it down to about 40 minutes now.
11:27.46Xion`guildrun is fast and easy, PuG is hell
11:27.50neeneeBah. My guild is stupid.
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11:28.01Xion`<3 pala tank in SH
11:28.11break19i love running sh with me rogue
11:28.13Grum<3 palatank anywhere
11:28.15neeneeThey don't even want to look inside Zul'Aman just incase they get locked to it. So much for some simple fun of seeing something new
11:28.17Xion`true :D
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11:28.39Codayusneenee:  To get locked, you need to have 5 people click on a large and very obvious drum inside.
11:28.40Grumwe normally do a mech+full coilfang heroic clear in ~3hrs orso with a paladin tank :)
11:28.55CodayusPreviously you could get locked simply by talking to an NPC, so it's not an unreasonable fear.
11:28.57Ellipsismeh
11:29.03Ellipsismech is easy
11:29.03llrIs file server down? Wow ace updater doesn't work :o
11:29.06Xion`neenee my guild is worse, we were gonna make a "pro" group and check it out tonite but then all the newbs whine so now we only doing kara tonite :(
11:29.07neeneeCodayus, I know, but they're not even willing to do that :|
11:29.14Grumllr: yes overloaded
11:29.16Ellipsiswe 4 manned it earlier 'cause the pug huntard went afk
11:29.23llrk, thought so
11:29.26GrumEllipsis: yeah its easy
11:29.29break19Ellipsis: hey I resemble that remark
11:29.31Ellipsisas long as you have an OP lock
11:29.32Ellipsis;D
11:29.33Grumexcept that fireboss thingie is annoying
11:29.33neeneeWell, I'm not any 'pro', I play the game for fun, not as a job
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11:29.43neeneeAnd I just want to take a look behind the gate, I don't care if I'm locked.
11:29.44GrumEllipsis: you had 2 locks in your party?
11:30.05Xion`is there a lvl req to enter ZA?
11:30.06Ellipsisno
11:30.09Xion`or just make an alt :D
11:30.14EllipsisI'm all the lock we need
11:30.20GrumEllipsis: asswise yes ;D
11:30.25Fisker-:OOOO
11:30.35Grumeventhough its rather glowy and red O.o
11:30.35Ellipsis;D
11:30.38Fisker-i just met a GM that knows me from the forums
11:30.40Ellipsisnot my fault!
11:30.41Grumoh dang
11:30.47Grumnot mine either
11:30.49Xion`busted Fisker-!
11:30.52EllipsisFisker- has a GM stalk0r?
11:30.57Ellipsismust have been a baaaaaad boy
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11:31.25msTainhrm, must not make stupid comment...
11:31.38Fisker-hehe
11:31.49Fisker-he/she told me that i was doing a good job on the forums
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11:32.18msTainmvp? :P
11:32.23Ellipsisa good job?
11:33.10Xion`official forums I take it Fisker-?
11:34.36JaxonSo what is the word on Cartographer?  Right now the instances maps aren't coming up and I know ckk is AWOL.
11:35.46Ozgulialso it's no longer a separate frame, but fills the whole screen
11:36.17Xion`I'm sure he's aware and working on it as fast as he can
11:36.38msTainanyone have any news on recount? i don't like the rumour mill on the forum :/
11:37.04vithosnews about what?
11:37.17starlonI think KTM died
11:37.21msTainwho's doing those minor upgrades, is anyone going to pick it up?
11:37.24Ellipsisdon't tease us, starlon
11:37.34Xion`didn't KTM die long ago? :o
11:37.39starlonI'm not teasing. I really think Kenco gave up.
11:37.39msTainktm has been dead since the release of threat-1.0
11:37.46Xion`idd
11:38.19msTain"gave up" as in his stubborness didn't win out? ^^
11:38.26starlonpretty much
11:38.54msTainsad really, ktm was innovative
11:39.16Xion`yeah, but then Omen came along
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11:39.33Xion`so you can see it that way, KTM inspired Omen
11:39.42msTainonly because ktm refused to deal with the wishes of the raiders
11:40.04msTainat least that's how i understood the motivation of the omen coder
11:40.16CodayusMore than that; I remember reading once of the first posts about KTM on the official forums.  I believe the consensus - which I shared - was "wtf, he's nuts, no way can an addon do that".
11:40.22CodayusHe proved the critics wrong.  :-)
11:40.40msTainyep, it helped our raid performance tremendously, too!
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11:40.58Xion`I can't even remember how hard it was raiding without it....
11:41.04msTainoh, i do.
11:41.06msTain<--- MT
11:41.08msTain:(
11:41.20starlon"Wait for sunders"
11:41.26msTain5 stacks!!
11:41.33CodayusIf WoW had a hall of fame for addon coders...he'd belong.  Which doesn't make KTM any more competitive versus Thread *now* of course.  :-)
11:41.34Xion`I was ally too back then so had salv all the time
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11:41.46CIA-4Recount:
11:41.46CIA-4-fix toc 20200 ==>20300
11:41.46msTainsalv + t1 threat bonus was sweet ;)
11:41.51Morodanyay files.wowace is online
11:41.53Xion`there ya go msTain
11:41.58MorodanWAU should start working again
11:42.09msTaini'll wait until you break it again ^^
11:42.10starlon5 minutes later...
11:42.26Xion`I was talking about recount :)
11:42.41Crinalso let teh hammering beging right ? :>
11:42.46msTainoO
11:42.59msTainwhat about recount?
11:43.08Xion`it got updated so I guess it's fine
11:43.16msTainah, major upgrade?
11:43.16Xion`altho I have no idea what the rumors were
11:43.17Ellipsispeople who attack my dotted mobs can go diaf.
11:43.20Morodanok, fine, I lied, it only works for me, not for anyone else...it should start working again AFTER i finish my updates
11:43.22Crinalim still waiting half of my addons :)
11:43.24Xion`tock update
11:43.30Xion`toc*
11:43.35msTainbecause right now the rumours ont he forum are that recount's original coder quit wow and therefore isn't doing updates anymore
11:43.48msTainonly thing updated are localisations and tocs by someone else (?)
11:43.55Xion`I'm sure someone else will pick it up if that's the case
11:44.15msTaini hope so. i can't live without knowing who broke the CCs all the time.. *cough*
11:44.28msTainoh, any the shiny graphs. XD
11:44.39Xion`^^
11:44.47Azhag2take big brother for cc breakers ;-)
11:45.01msTaini have bigbrother.. it shows cc breakers? oO
11:45.03Xion`it's always the pala with his damn consecration! :P
11:45.08Azhag2yep
11:45.21Ellipsisthunderclaps too
11:45.23vithoswho needs CC when you've got a paladin?
11:45.25msTainactually, it's the hunter's and their multis for us. ("it always crits! always!")
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11:45.59smoke__antagonist is what i need to have it announce if an enemy shield reflects/pally bubble ?
11:46.03Xion`we have pala as MT and druid as OT so never thunderclap :)
11:46.10Azhag2our sp's/wl like to dot sheeps
11:46.18CrinalXion` pala as MT ? :>
11:46.19msTainyou don't take dps warriors with you?
11:46.22Xion`ofc
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11:46.35Xion`makes way more threat than warrs
11:46.36Crinalprolly not high end guild then :P
11:46.38EllipsisI like to dot sheeps...
11:46.43Ellipsis..when we're breaking them...
11:46.45CodayusWe've been training a new MA recently; that's led to a lot of DoTed sheeps as he does the "tab until I see a mob a like" game.
11:46.47msTaindps warriors should thunderclap then, 20% less dmg is 20% less dmg
11:46.49Xion`Kara/Gruul on farm atleast
11:46.57Crinaly ok
11:47.02Ellipsisugh, I hate that @ Codayus
11:47.18starlonFuck that. I'll demo shout, but screw thunderclap
11:47.19BejittmsTain: screw that, you cant cast it in zerker :(
11:47.19Ellipsismy guild switched MAs last week and our new one doesn't seem to get that he needs to be targeting properly *all* the time
11:47.30starlonThat requires me to change stances.
11:47.36Morodanwell my warrior is fury, I thunderclap if I happen to switch to battle stance to overpower
11:47.41break19Codayus: yea.. I couldnt ever be ma.. I always tab to the next mob before engaging.. I hate click-selecting anything during a massive firefight
11:47.44msTainoh, right.. i forgot, you can't interrupt your slam cycle so the mt takes 20% less physical dmg ;)
11:47.45Morodangenerally, I dont switch
11:47.50Morodanno thunderclap for you
11:47.51Azhag2it was long ago in molten core....always the mages were to blame for cc breaks - finally no excuses help =)
11:47.57msTainlol
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11:48.11CodayusMAs need to understand the power of pre-targeting things too.
11:48.15BejittmsTain: Slam is for pvp-to-pve warriors :P
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11:48.20Ellipsisclick-targeting sucks in tight spots, but tab-targeting always sucks...sigh
11:48.25msTainslam is for owning dw furies :P
11:48.28Xion`<3 tab
11:48.45CodayusThe time to find a new target is not when the mob is dead.  A couple seconds lost DPS on a trash mob isn't REMOTELY as bad as breaking CC on some T5 trash.  ><
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11:48.52MorodanI'd only use slam if I had a 2h weapon that took longer than slam casts to swing
11:48.52CrinalEllipsis how about assist ? :)
11:48.56Bejittrogues said the same thing about... themselves  /burn
11:49.13Azhag2any chance to update via updater? :/
11:49.15msTainwhich is like.. every 2h weapon morodan?
11:49.25Morodanyea, well my warrior is like fury
11:49.26EllipsisCrinal: assist works if your MA is good
11:49.30Xion`probably not right now Azhag2
11:49.31Ellipsisotherwise you're better off targeting on your own
11:49.31CrinalAzhag2 WaU is fckd atm
11:49.40Azhag2:-(
11:49.43Morodanfiles.wowace not really working
11:49.48Azhag2k thx
11:49.53Ellipsissince you  have a chance of hitting the right mob with tab, and he has a chance of hitting the right mob which you can then click the frame to target...
11:50.04Ellipsisit doubles your chance of finding the mob quickly!
11:50.18msTainif i was ma, i'd not use tab
11:50.23Fisker-auctioneer is doing 50 auctions a second right now
11:50.23Xion`I didn't even know ppl still used MA tbh, haven't used that since BWL
11:50.42CrinalMT targets n stuff is always good but still find using tab when targeting ;>
11:50.44msTainreason being, dps classes are likely to have a makro with your target in it, so while you're cycling through targets, they might already be casting (on the wrong mob)
11:51.01Xion`raid symbols ftw
11:51.01Ellipsisyes msTain, that's what we're complaining about now :P
11:51.09msTainyes, i'm agreeing with you :)
11:51.10Ellipsisif the MA tab-targets, sheeps get dotted
11:51.12CrinalXion` also those are good when u tabbing ;>
11:51.17Morodanmy guild uses raid symbols and the raid leader shouts "star next" over vent
11:51.18msTainsomeone here just said they liked tabbing :9
11:51.19Xion`yep
11:51.25Xion`same here Morodan
11:51.29EllipsisI've quit relying on the MA until he figures it out
11:51.31CrinalEllipsis have u ever heard resheep ? :>
11:51.34msTainwell
11:51.43EllipsisCrinal: ...re-sheep a dotted mob? glhf
11:51.47Crinalyes ! :>
11:51.52msTaini usually shout the raid symbol over TS as well, but for alar it's not really helpful in my raid
11:52.11Crinalsheep = best interupt what u can get ;>
11:52.12CodayusWe use a mix of MA and called symbols; the nice thing about using an MA is that you can simply hit assist macro, and start blasting.  Saves a lot of time and effort when stuff starts to go wrong, and you're now trying to work out what mob to hit.
11:52.15msTainso they target my target and have fun with it
11:52.26Ellipsiswe just have the RL specify an icon order, and then I follow it regardless of what the MA does
11:52.30msTainyes, codayus, that's how i see it, too.
11:52.44Morodanwell being a mage, I just tab until I see a target that has sunders or dots on it
11:52.48CodayusHaving the raid leader say "kill the moon next" is...helpful.  But it doesn't actually help anyone TARGET the moon.
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11:52.49Xion`MA is sweet if he's good at it, if not it can easily cause a wipe
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11:53.06msTaincrap, hit esc. :P
11:53.18Xion`Codayus /assist tank? :)
11:53.25Xion`atleast if you got pallytank
11:53.26msTainas i was saying, symbol order is fine, but not when you have frequent add spawns
11:53.28CodayusXion`: Which tank?  *shrug*
11:53.29Ellipsishonestly, when stuff goes wrong (mage dies leaving mob unsheeped, etc.) I don't trust our MA to think/react quickly enough anyway
11:53.31msTaintake nightbane, for example.
11:53.32CodayusAnd we don't normally.
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11:53.56CodayusOh. And Nightbane is a great example where you have to have an MA if you use a single target strategy, which we normallydo.
11:54.06Xion`msTain palytank does cons and then the rest just goes random :)
11:54.09Ellipsiswhy do you need MA for nightbane?
11:54.17msTainreally good dpsers don't rely on ma, that's right, but show me the guild that consists of only good players and i'll show you their name is nihilum (include another random top guild)
11:54.22Morodanand get quartz to put your focus debuffs big in the middle of the screen..you can't miss it if sheep breaks
11:54.25Ellipsisthe skeles die so fast it's pointless to try and single target dps :/
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11:54.34msTainxion, that's not fair :)
11:54.40CrinalEllipsis ur not prolly in BT guild ? :>
11:54.47Ellipsisuh...
11:54.50msTainellipsis, we've tried several strategies for nightbane
11:54.54CodayusEllipsis: You want to assist train the skeletons down one by one.  Everyone picking a skeleton at random will NOT work if your trying Nightbane with 2 alt healers and a bunch of DPS in blues, which these days, we normally are.
11:54.56Ellipsiswhat does BT have to do with nightbane?
11:55.07Morodanin my guild, the mage tanks the skellies on nightbane
11:55.10Xion`I just dot up all skellies with corruption then 1 SB <tab> 1 SB <tab>
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11:55.22msTainwe've decided that AE is not the way to go for us, so our pally AE tanks the mobs and our MA (me) pulls the mobs out of the pallys consec for focus fire
11:55.23EllipsisI pretty much do Xion`s
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11:55.45Ellipsistab-dot-tab-dot
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11:56.00msTainit depends on the raid and the boss pretty much ;)
11:56.06Ellipsisif I start getting back to dotted mobs, I switch to immolate or SB depending how long I think I have to cast
11:56.07CodayusSome weeks, it's tricky to even get all the skellies DOWN before he lands.  It's been a while since I've seen TWO of our raiding mains in the same Kara instance...
11:56.20msTainyou can be lucky and your healers are bored unless 5+ ppl got aggro, or you have healers that get confused when more than 3 people take dmg :)
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11:56.41nomenquisHi, probably has been asked before in here, but are there any mirrors for files.wowace.com? It's kinda dead :(
11:56.43Xion`we usually do kara on 2 healers so the skellies are dead pretty fast
11:56.47[AR]CamciWAU not working ?
11:56.50msTainah, alright.
11:56.52Ozgulinope
11:56.53Xion`no, site down
11:56.53nomenquisnope
11:56.58[AR]Camciaww
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11:57.08OzguliI disabled half of my UI
11:57.09nomenquisThat's why i asked for a mirror :)
11:57.17Ozgulielk or smth kept crashing my client
11:57.25CodayusLast week I think there was me, 1 casual main, 4 alts, and 4 very new recruits, a couple of whom hadn't SEEN Nightbane before, ever.  Assisting is your friend there...
11:57.26Morodannightbane isnt hard for my guild...we just AoE the skellies down and they die with 5-10 secs remaining before nightbane lands
11:57.32Ellipsisgive it a few mins and try again nomenquis - it's been up and down due to the heavy load
11:57.45[AR]Camcithen back to hellgate london until site is up then :P
11:57.53msTainmorodan, what instance is your progress into up to now?
11:57.56nomenquisSo there are no mirrors? I think i remember that a while back there actually was a mirror for that stuff
11:58.02GrumCodayus: mm with our alt-group we usually kill the skellies 10-15s before he lands
11:58.06EllipsisI think the mirrors all died over time
11:58.16MorodanSSC/TK msTain
11:58.17CodayusYour alt group >> ours I suspect.
11:58.22Ellipsispeople tend to forget about them between patches
11:58.24Xion`yeah, MA might be good first few times, but once everyone knows what to do it shouldn't really be needed
11:58.45msTainso you have good experienced raiders with t5 equip doing nightbane?
11:58.54GrumCodayus: mm it does a fullclear in about 4.5hrs
11:59.03CodayusGrum: Heh, yeah.
11:59.14Grumnot really good tbh :)
11:59.17Bejittdoh, fish died again too
11:59.23Gruma 'main' group clears it <3hrs
11:59.34Morodanwe've taken kara off the raid schedule, so we get half experienced and half alts/new people
11:59.39msTaina group that clears kara in 3 hrs shouldn't be clearing it anymore, imo XD
11:59.53nomenquisWhat is files.wowace.com anyway? Does it just checkout / update svn and make zips for all subdirs or is it more elaborate?
11:59.57Xion`not until now anyway, badgefarming ftw
12:00.01Ellipsispretty much nomenquis
12:00.04CodayusI was pretty damn happy, ours did a clear of Attuman -> Aran, including Illhoof and Nightbane (but not Maiden) in 3 hours.  Could have been a LITTLE faster if our tank wasn't so new, was constantly having to yell at him to pull NOW damn it, YES we're ready, just PULL.
12:00.04msTainoh yeah, you're right.
12:00.11msTainbadgefarming > all
12:00.13nomenquisWell, then svn update it is for me :)
12:00.13Ellipsisit handles creation of normal and no-ext zips
12:00.17Morodanyeah, badges, and alts want gear too hehe
12:00.28Codayus"Wait, pull now?"
12:00.33msTaini'd only want gear for alternative speccing
12:00.39Codayus"*sound of teeth grinding on vent*"
12:00.44Xion`that's pretty annoying with palatank, 5kish mana so have to drink between every mob
12:00.51msTainoh yeah, don't you love MTs with pull fright ;)
12:01.05GrumXion`: you mean between every mob*group*
12:01.19Xion`whenever he's not in combat :P
12:01.32Morodanone of the officers in my guild runs kara like UD45
12:01.40winkillermage at 80% mana: MB! MB! MB!
12:01.41msTainsad story, i can't make my healers go oom with kara trash anymore :/
12:01.45Morodanhe does the next pull when the current one is 70% dead
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12:01.52winkillerwarlock at 50% mana: MB! MB! MB!
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12:01.55winkilleralways hated it...
12:02.16Morodanits annoying...I need mana but noo, next pull inc
12:02.18Xion`tbh if you can clear kara without much problem MB shouldn't be needed at all
12:02.28msTainmb?
12:02.29Xion`except before bosses
12:02.31Xion`manabreak
12:02.35msTainah, right...
12:02.41delixmhh need a dllink for ag_unitframes :(
12:02.44msTainhonestly
12:02.46CodayusOur "main" MT more or less chain pulls Kara.  His theory is that if any healer, anywhere, has 20% mana or more, we should be pulling.  Everyone else can drink and catch up, he's gone.  Usually pulling pats back by the time we find out what a boss dropped.
12:02.54CodayusIt's a blast.  Sadly, he's on hiatus right now.  :-(
12:02.55msTainif you need a manabreak, just do your mana break?
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12:03.02Xion`yeah
12:03.11Xion`no need for the entire raid to wait
12:03.11Ellipsiswhat's a mana break?
12:03.17msTainthe worst that can happen is the MT tanking a little longer before dmg starts pouring over the mob
12:03.18nomenquislol
12:03.39nomenquismana breaks are useless :)
12:03.51Helmethey kids :)
12:03.51msTaindamn straight.. mana is useless to begin with...
12:03.55msTain*runs*
12:04.00Ellipsishah
12:04.04msTain^^
12:04.06Ellipsismana keeps you alive, sucker :P
12:04.09Helmetwell
12:04.12Xion`mana = hp
12:04.16Helmetaffli locks don't need mana >:)
12:04.18CodayusT4 geared healers shouldn't need mana breaks in Kara.  DPS casters will, but they really can drink through pulls.
12:04.19nomenquisI really really hate having 3 casters on a 5man run, especially when they all start complaining when i chain pull as a tank
12:04.20Morodanno heals for joo
12:04.21Helmetthey have unlimited hehe
12:04.34nomenquiswell, my healers mana keeps me alive, and he usually can handle the speed :)
12:04.36msTainha, i've heard that no heal threat so often :)
12:04.37Codayus(Well, spriests and mages, will...anyhow.)
12:04.48*** part/#wowace anubsio (n=asdsad@p54B24408.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:05.00CodayusBesides, mana pots are cheap if they get REALLY desperate...
12:05.01EllipsismsTain: let me guess, you know where your healthstones are at all times? :P
12:05.03msTainin the end they're more afraid of the mobs than they hate my mana jibes ;)
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12:05.18msTainstone's on CD most of the time ;)
12:05.29msTainno i'm kidding, i don't use stones anymore :)
12:05.35hlm[nl]wowace fileserver is down?
12:05.38msTainnor healing pots
12:05.48winkillercan't anyone set the topic?
12:05.57JaxonIt won't help
12:05.59nomenquisyikes, wow without addons really really suck. How can anyone live without bag mods?
12:06.01Morodanfiles.wowace is down
12:06.01Ellipsisnobody reads that
12:06.03Xion`winkiller most ppl don't read it anyway
12:06.04winkiller:(
12:06.09nomenquisI did ellipsis ^^
12:06.14Ellipsisnomenquis: OCD helps ;)
12:06.16hlm[nl]I was actually looking for a message in the topic :)
12:06.28hlm[nl]so it might be wise to set it
12:06.30Ellipsisthe files page is up and down, if it's not working for you just wait for a bit :P
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12:06.47hlm[nl]"but never fear, we're ready! Fresh "If you can read this, please flip me over and stick me back in the rack" stickers are firmly in place. Just try to crash this server!"
12:06.51hlm[nl]pwned xD
12:06.57msTainyep ;)
12:07.07nomenquishey, anyone notice that these suckers changed guild bank tab costs? no cheap storage guilds :(
12:07.16JoshBorkenomenquis: yes, 100g for first tab
12:07.16Xion`yeah
12:07.17Codayusnomenquis: Yeah, kinda annoying.
12:07.22JaxonIts only 100g
12:07.24CodayusMy guild had been planning on getting 4 tabs.
12:07.26Wobin...
12:07.29Xion`to prevent just that nomenquis :P
12:07.31Wobinyeah, well it's only 100g
12:07.33CIA-4tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r705 10/trunk/Squeenix/ (Squeenix.lua Squeenix.toc): Squeenix - Might fix the tracking mover, fuck if I know.
12:07.37Wobinfor the first tab
12:07.38Ellipsisyes, but alts are free
12:07.39Ellipsis;D
12:07.46WobinSo really cheap bank guilds are feasible
12:07.46nomenquisfor the frist one. its 100 250 500 where in the ptr it was 1 10 100 ...
12:07.51Crazzzufreand wowaceupdeter not work????
12:07.55CodayusBut that's 1850g now.  It was going to be a lot cheaper.  :-/
12:08.04nomenquisexactly :(
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12:08.16Crazzzumde........
12:08.16nomenquisso from a gold / storage slot a mule char is still cheaper :(
12:08.20hlm[nl]but well
12:08.27hlm[nl]you don't have to pay it all by yourself
12:08.31hlm[nl]guild can put ino some money
12:08.39Crazzzuhow many time need for up server update???
12:08.43Xion`guildbank could be used to store stuff that members should have access
12:08.44Xion`to
12:08.45CodayusYeah, we're asking for donations for tabs.  ><
12:08.47msTainha!
12:08.48Xion`like pots etc
12:08.49nomenquisof course i do, i have 3 storage alts and still run out of space. I've already set up 2 storage guilds ^^
12:08.50msTaini made it!
12:08.54msTainjust updated all my addons ;)
12:09.00hlm[nl]ya me2 :)
12:09.03msTain<-- lucker!
12:09.07CodayusSo much about the guild bank could be better....
12:09.16hlm[nl]well
12:09.21hlm[nl]what about the cenarion mount
12:09.26hlm[nl]2k gold for a bird
12:09.27hlm[nl]wtf ? :p
12:09.28Xion`Codayus atleast there is a guildbank now ;)
12:09.32CodayusAt least!
12:09.34Ellipsisactually, it's 1600g
12:09.38nomenquisfor a bird that cant run, lol
12:09.42Ellipsisexalted discount ftw :P
12:09.45hlm[nl]well
12:09.48hlm[nl]still too much :)
12:09.58hlm[nl]and I'm exalted there *yay*
12:10.00msTainwhat, it can't run?
12:10.03EllipsisI'm buying it as soon as I have the cash for the flight training :P
12:10.06nomenquisuhm, half of my addons are striked through in wau, is this a new feature?
12:10.07msTainso you get on the mount and.. just stand there?
12:10.16msTainwrong toc, nomenquis
12:10.24Ellipsison ptr it had no run animation, msTain
12:10.27nomenquismstain, in early ptr builds it was always flying, even on the ground
12:10.37nomenquislooked rather, silly? :)
12:10.37msTainah, right...
12:10.38Fisker-hmm
12:10.43Morodanugh, I don't know which addons I haven't updated yet
12:10.43Fisker-wowace.com got eurOWNED_
12:10.44Fisker-?
12:10.54winkillergood thing about 300 riding: my druid has it
12:10.55Xion`yep
12:10.55msTainhey, be more understanding, copying the gnome strider animations over is not that easy
12:11.05Ellipsisinorite!
12:11.07winkillerbad thing: I'll never ride my nether ray or netherdrake
12:11.14Ellipsisflight form > all
12:11.20nomenquislol
12:11.24Xion`only decent flymount is the engineering one
12:11.30Xion`all the others suck :(
12:11.32winkillerepic flight form > all
12:11.43nomenquishit me, but i kinda like the skyguard thingy too
12:11.46Demetriouswinkiller: I agree, unless you have run our of mana. :-)
12:11.53Demetriousour = out
12:12.06winkillerLOL
12:12.14Ellipsiseven so, it's faster to wait a few ticks and cast than start using the item...
12:12.17Crinalyeah, what we're encountering here in fallujah is a ragtag army with homemade weapons, but the're using really cowardly tactics, suicide vechiles, wearing civilian clothes, hiding behind things, instead of putting on their uniforms and fighting like men!.... But before we go in we're gonna drop twenty hundred mega tonne bombs on them from outer space, and that'll show those cowards!!! -U.S military
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12:12.25LouisXIV1987hey there
12:12.34Ellipsisyes, it's down
12:12.37LouisXIV1987is cartographer working?
12:12.38Ellipsisno, we don't know when it will be back up
12:12.43nomenquislol
12:12.46Xion`not yet LouisXIV1987
12:12.51nomenquismake a bot for that ellipsis ^^
12:12.55Ellipsisheh
12:12.57Ellipsispurl, get over here
12:12.58purlACTION fetches over here
12:13.02JaxonCart is working somewhat good for me, except for instance maps.
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12:13.12DemetriousI updated cartogrpher last night with WUA and it worked flawlesly.
12:13.35EllipsisWAU*
12:13.39DemetriousRight.
12:14.50nomenquisah, nothing beats the sound of a zillion 'fatality' when logging in :)
12:15.01LouisXIV1987ok, I have a very odd question, but wth: I remember cartographer having an off-game program to update the DB, and that in-game when you would see you questlog it would appear a question mark besides some words (mob, item, etc) and when you'd click on it it would "track it" on you map (the probable locationbs of what you were looking for)
12:15.16LouisXIV1987im not pretty sure it was Cartographer though =(
12:15.21markt_hey hey - am i right in thinking that files.wowace.com will be down for the forseeable due to stupid load?
12:15.34nomenquismarkt_ yep
12:15.34Ellipsisnomenquis: that's why I use a more pleasant sound...
12:15.35Xion`seems to be going up and down markt_
12:15.43nomenquisEllipsis: like what?
12:15.46Ellipsisnice to have something cheery about getting an error
12:15.54EllipsisI use a little chime-y thing
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12:16.15markt_ok, i'll update the few things i'm having issues with in other ways then :)
12:16.27LouisXIV1987can anyone awnser me? lawl, was it cartographer that did that?
12:16.45nomenquisEllipsis: I think the sound should be changed to some mortal combat like fatality sound. something more brutal. But the current high pitch one really sucks
12:17.05Ellipsiswhat's worse is that people can't even tell what it's saying, which makes it really hard to identify the source
12:17.29nomenquisit's just this bugs bunny style voice, drives me mad everytime :)
12:17.38nomenquisat least you're quick to notice something broke ^^
12:17.48Ellipsisheh
12:18.02Ellipsiswhat drives me nuts is hearing my bugsack sound when the UI's only half loaded
12:18.09LouisXIV1987would someone awnser me, please?
12:18.16EllipsisLouisXIV1987: if someone knew, they'd probably answer
12:19.02LouisXIV1987hmmm, I don't think all of you a newbies to ace... it wasn't long ago
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12:19.24nomenquismeh, skinner + guild bank == no joy :(
12:19.47Midnightrwau still doesn't work for me :/
12:19.51CIA-403speeddymon * r54646 10simpleMinimap/ (simpleMinimap.lua simpleMinimap.toc):
12:19.51CIA-4simpleMinimap:
12:19.51CIA-4- Change MinimapTrackingFrame to MinimapTracking and bump TOC
12:19.56Ellipsisbe patient, Midnightr
12:20.12Midnightris it vista or the server, can't tell from the errors
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12:20.21Ellipsislikely the server
12:20.22nomenquisserver probably
12:20.34Midnightrhmm guessing timeout means server
12:20.40Midnightrand can't get on files.wowace.com
12:20.47winkilleryou nver know with vista :P
12:20.58Morodanthe wowace fileserver is down Midnightr
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12:21.19ElelloNAnyone know how long untill its up again?
12:21.29Morodanit comes up intermittently, then shuts down when it gets flooded
12:21.30Funkeh`now
12:21.35Funkeh`it should be up...
12:21.57Crinallies
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12:22.43Funkeh`files site is up
12:22.49Funkeh`don't see why wau shouldn't be
12:23.05LouisXIV1987zomg, I was talking about MobMap :S
12:23.12LouisXIV1987not cartographer
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12:24.13alphamaruscan i have nubish question? wowaceupdater doesnt seem to find any installed addons :<
12:24.30Jaxonalphamarus: thats because they are all gone, you'll have to find another site to get addons from
12:24.35Ellipsislol
12:24.37Crinalalphamarus yeah WaU aint working atm
12:24.40markt_you can't update using WAU at the moment
12:24.48alphamarusah ok :(
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12:25.51winkillerhehe, should create a mirror structure for patchdays :P
12:25.59Funkeh`um, did you even try opening it now? its working for me
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12:26.18Ellipsisit doesn't last long even when it is up
12:26.23Ellipsisbest just to give it a rest
12:26.46honemkk
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12:26.52honemanyone updated postal yet ?
12:27.05CrinalFunkeh` your wau work ?
12:27.23honemnope cant access files.wowace.com
12:27.52honemtrying to find who the maitainer is now
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12:29.24nomenquissigh, they really removed detect magic from my mage :(
12:29.51honemnome : yes like they said in the patch notes
12:29.59Ellipsisbut detect magic isn't even useful anymore o.O
12:29.59nomenquisnow i can't mark sheeps other than just sheeping them ^^
12:30.05Ellipsisheh
12:30.17nomenquisOf course, this is what i use to mark something i'm gonna sheep. Way faster than raid icons
12:30.27Bandoryksdid they include iceblock as a trainable in this patch?
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12:30.34xcc_they didn't
12:30.35nomenquisnope, think not
12:30.35honemno
12:30.37Fisker-PT3bar is totally screwed
12:30.38alphamarusnah 2.4
12:30.38Xion`I thought that was a joke at first... removing detect magic
12:30.44honemread the patch notes
12:30.46Fisker-anyone know how to get the new mage manna stuff in your bar?
12:30.48winkillerlike swirly ball :(
12:30.55winkillerGIEV BACK SWIRLYBALL
12:30.57honemand read mmo-champion.com
12:30.58markt_hooray, i have my elkbuffbars back!
12:31.01JoshBorkehttp://ace.pastey.net/77164 <-- =/
12:31.02markt_hacking LUA FTW!
12:31.10GlindaDo anyone have a status on files.wowace.com ?
12:31.11Fisker-SWIRLY BALL
12:31.14Ellipsisuh...EBB was never broken?
12:31.16Xion`no Glinda
12:31.18markt_glinda: yes, 500 :-p
12:31.20Xion`it comes and goes
12:31.23Gngskebb2 was busted
12:31.26JaxonFisker, not a clue.  I don't think it is looking in an updated PeriodicTable copy.
12:31.34nomenquislol, anyone hacked skinner to work with the guildbank? If i set my ui scale to something small it looks like the icons in the guild bank are not scaled at all, but the frame itself is ...
12:31.36GlindaAllrighty
12:31.40Ellipsisit was working fine for me, iunno
12:31.44Arrowmasterebb got updated yesterday and fixed
12:31.58Gngskdurcyn moved the branch to trunk and it worked
12:32.06markt_arrow: yeah, but i can't get to it to d/l it :)
12:32.24Gngskthen elkano came on irc and scolded him
12:32.32Arrowmasterlol
12:33.03Fisker-Jaxon well i'm using the item id
12:33.10nomenquisarg, skinner also seems to break setting permissions in the guild controll for the guild bank :(
12:33.11markt_ellipsis: EBB was broken for me cos of the MiniMapTrackingFrame -> MiniMapTracking change
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12:33.25Arrowmasternomenquis: skinner is probably tainting
12:33.28EllipsisI guess I just waited long enough before updating
12:33.30JaxonFisker-: I haven't really spent that much time with it.  ItemID isn't working for you iether?
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12:33.37GngskEllipsis, prolly so
12:33.40Fisker-nope
12:33.41honemhey is the author for postal online right now ? is there an alternative download link for it ?
12:33.41omegaGas clouds in Nagrand now produce motes of air. <-- anyone know what theese gas clouds are?
12:33.53GlindaI second that question omega
12:33.54Gngskomega, are you an engineer?
12:33.59omegaGngsk: no
12:34.03Gngskthen don't worry about it :P
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12:34.14alphamarusthe purpal engineering goggles
12:34.18GlindaKnowledge is power Gnsk
12:34.25Gngskengineers get a device called a mote extractor, they can get motes from gas clouds
12:34.25Arrowmastersearch wowhead for mote extractor
12:34.40Ellipsisthere's clouds in each outlands zone that can be extracted by engineers for certain motes
12:34.59Ellipsisif you're ever hanging out in netherstorm and suddenly get some unexpected mana regen, that's a mana cloud
12:35.14Arrowmasteryou can see the clouds in netherstorm now
12:35.20Higdurbtw, where do you find the bg and heroic dailies?
12:35.29Arrowmasterlowercity
12:35.32omegaaha, but you still need to be engie to extract it?
12:35.36Ellipsisyep
12:35.48Arrowmasterim going to bed
12:36.22Xion`I also wanna go to bed :(
12:36.42hlm[nl]love what they did with the engineering herbs
12:36.57nomenquisUhm, anyone here used the guild control for guild banks? It seems to be really broken, even without skinner :(
12:36.58hlm[nl]they finally blink :)
12:37.21nomenquisEvery time i give someone permissions to withdraw more than 1k per day (including myself as the gm) it switches back to 1k
12:37.42Fisker-:OOOOOOO
12:37.46Fisker-they updated the EU scamming policy
12:37.51Fisker-now it's like the US one
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12:38.04KalrothNo more scamming!
12:38.07Xion`wtf, you actully read that?
12:38.10Kalrothpoor Fisker
12:38.20KalrothHow will you earn money now
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12:38.36Gngskby selling [Delicious Chocolate Cake]
12:38.42Kalrothmmmm
12:38.50honemnomnquis : how you try just disabling skinner for the mean time
12:38.55Ozguliscamming policy?
12:39.03chanusr8989files.wowace.com is down?
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12:39.08OzguliYES IT IS
12:39.13Ozguliput it in topic someone
12:39.14honemyep
12:39.15sdoubleI require [Delicious Chocolate Cake]
12:39.39chanusr8989damn, I pressed F5 and now I can't select a mirror
12:39.52nomenquissdouble, the cake is a lie :)
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12:40.13nomenquishonem, disabled _all_ addons and it still is broken
12:40.20syerenHas anyone worked out how to move the tracking button yet?
12:40.29nomenquishonem, i can't event set a gold withdraw limit for officers, not even to 1g
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12:41.03nomenquisand this sorts of beats the whole 'store everything in there' idea for me :)
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12:41.29honemare you sure you disabled everything ? the /interface/addons folder is empty ?
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12:41.50honemtry dragging everything in the addons folder to a new folder and try again
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12:41.57nomenquisdisabled everything, yea
12:42.05Jaycenis the fileserver down at the moment?
12:42.12Bandoryksyep
12:42.15nomenquislol, now my officers can withdraw like 100k a day but i as the gm still have a 1k limit
12:42.23honemdelete all Blizzard* folders there as they are just recreated on login
12:42.31Illiai"Just try to crash this server!", funny :)
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12:42.50Zhongowned pretty much yea
12:42.54Zhongtempting fate a little ;p
12:42.57Jaycenyup
12:43.17Illiaihopefuly it'll get back up sometime soon
12:43.24honemnomenquis : haven't used the guild bank yet sorry
12:43.29Illiaidon't think I should try to do a svn checkout instead =/
12:43.46nomenquisblizzard guild bank ui frames where created today after the patch so the should not be old
12:43.49honemyou should really check on the wow bug report forums
12:44.40honemhow do you know it's skinner creating the problem ... last time i checked skinner was an addon and you said you had deleted them all
12:44.45nomenquisdon't care atm, still having to stuff items from >10 chars into 2 banks :)
12:45.04honemtry playing with the taintlog command
12:45.09honem<PROTECTED>
12:45.12nomenquiswith skinner it didn't work at all, with all disabled it worked a little better :)
12:45.14JoshBorketwo banks?
12:45.34honemrun it  . gather some errors ...check your /logs folder
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12:45.49honemthen go /console taintlog 0 to turn it off
12:47.02honemi would also check the forums to see if there is any slash commands to do it
12:47.55honem...
12:48.14honemi just tried to get training for tailoring ....from a dwarven miner !
12:48.15TraeI can't find JUST cartographer on wowace.  I see all the addons for it but not base Cart:  http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Map_Addons
12:48.36honemcartographer ?
12:48.45honemi dont know if its been updated ..guys ?
12:48.53syerenGoddamn I need to learn how to move this tracking button, it's stuck in the middle of nowhere.
12:48.54Orionshockhonem: yes
12:48.56Orionshockd
12:48.58Orionshockit has been
12:49.03honem;(
12:49.10honemAnd I get a grade D
12:49.13honemi fail ;(
12:49.34OzguliElkano's Buffs not working at all :\
12:49.35TraeOrionshock, lol  I guess I get a fail for not finding it :(
12:49.44honemno you don't trae
12:49.46Ozgulisyeren indeed I hate that cunt
12:49.52honemfiles.wowace.com is down atm
12:49.54Orionshockwtf - it's not like cartographer is a new addon from last week
12:49.55honemnot your fault
12:50.27syerenWell I have a stupid button stuck in the top right of my corner attached to nothing which I cannot move.
12:50.32honemlook up to see if you can find ck knight somewhere
12:50.37Orionshockfiles site fubar'ed so ya no updates :P
12:51.32honemsyeren : that's nice dear
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12:51.48honembut we are going to need more info than that
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12:52.08syerenYou can't move the tracking button, I was asking if there was any solution to doing so yet.
12:52.15Orionshocksyeren:  /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
12:52.34syerenMiniMapTracking
12:52.43Ellipsistrackerfu will hide it and put it on your fubar...smm (and perhaps others?) will move/hide it configurably....EBB can hide/replace it as well
12:52.48honemi meant for which addon syeren ....scrolls up ...;( ...i fail again
12:52.50Orionshockya, get EBB or FubarTrackerFu
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12:52.57ZhongEE
12:53.02syerenhonem, you failed.
12:53.09honemepic fail ;(
12:53.11Illiaior type /script MiniMapTracking:Hide(); and just don't bother :)
12:53.11ZhongEBB didn't kill it for me tho :<
12:53.13syerenThere is no addon, it's a fucking Blizzard module.
12:53.30Zhongthere is addons that remove it for you tho
12:53.35syerenThank you Ellipsis ;p
12:53.39Zhongor that :p
12:53.41syerenHence me asking for one...
12:53.57ZhongOrion gave you 2 ;)
12:54.14EllipsisI gave three, and before Orionshock did!
12:54.17Ellipsiswhere's mah cookie :(
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12:54.26markt_Zhong: EBB removes it for me fine
12:54.26CIA-403pericles * r54647 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.toc:
12:54.26CIA-4InventoryOnPar:
12:54.26CIA-4- Updated TOC to patch 2.3
12:54.31honemsyeren ... politeness gets you a very long way
12:54.31CIA-403pericles * r54648 10FuBar_IOPFu/FuBar_IOPFu.toc:
12:54.31CIA-4FuBar_IOPFu:
12:54.32CIA-4- Updated TOC to patch 2.3
12:54.40Zhong:o
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12:54.52syerenApparently ascting how I am gets me what I need regardless.
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12:55.19markt_sssh, don't tell anybody, but files.wowace.com is back up
12:55.27Neehahsit is?
12:55.34Neehahsaye
12:55.43Ellipsisquick, everyone go update before everyone goes and updates...oh wait
12:55.45markt_(ssssh!)
12:55.46honemsyeren try right click it ...the script command you were given hides it
12:56.21honemmarkt ...shoosh shut up!
12:56.22Beaver|EmasymIt is, went here to ask what's going on, clicked the link in topic, kabam.
12:56.47markt_(come on WAU, come on, quickly before the server melts!!)
12:56.54Kalrothhahah
12:57.01honemfiles.wowace.com is having problems with the server load ...if its up updtae quickly
12:57.02Beaver|EmasymGot everything! :o
12:57.04Neehahslmfao
12:57.12honemif not .... you're out of luck
12:57.28Neehahs119 remaining ...
12:57.36Kalroth119? wtf
12:57.43KalrothDo you have -all- addons installed?
12:57.55Neehahsdont look at me, I only installed mazzle
12:58.04honemsomeone hasn't been updating regularly
12:58.07NeehahsI have nfc what this does
12:58.15Neehahs:b
12:58.20NeehahsI just wanna play wow lmao
12:58.21honemmazzle modified several addons
12:58.27E-RaZoR164 remaining
12:58.28E-RaZoR:f
12:58.36Neehahs87 ...
12:58.37honemso the ones you get from their original authors may not work perfectly with mazzle
12:58.39Ellipsisthe modified ones have .svn dirs iirc, so updating should be safe
12:58.40E-RaZoRmost of them libs though
12:58.45Neehahsah ty honem
12:59.00markt_yay, i'm back in business! :)
12:59.22Illiai*weeeee* all updated
12:59.22E-RaZoRupdate complete
12:59.23E-RaZoRweeeeeeeeee
12:59.25E-RaZoR..
12:59.31Illiailol
12:59.31honemmy advice Neehahs is to slowly build a cool looking one from scratch
12:59.34E-RaZoRgreat minds think alike
12:59.37honemor find antoher UI
12:59.55honemor ask on the offical wow forums about a mazzle update
12:59.59Neehahswell, the only reason I use mazzle is for the auto-keybindings it does for the new spells learnt and the cartographer set ... is there any alternative?
13:00.01honemlast i heard mazzle quit WOW
13:00.08Neehahsgah!
13:00.12Neehahsjust my luck ^^
13:00.15Ellipsismazzle quit?
13:00.15honemyou could find out what addon does that
13:00.22Neehahshow?
13:00.27honemthats what I heard on the forums
13:00.37honembut then again it was "the forums"
13:00.41Neehahslolz
13:00.51honemthe mos eisley of the wow world
13:01.25honemquestion : how much honor do you get for a full clear of durnholde keep guys
13:01.44Ellipsisgrr, my interface dir is back over 20MB :(
13:02.01Neehahswouldn't be able to tell you, I'm only lvl 66 on my main ...
13:02.05honemEllipsis ... and this is bad why ?
13:02.12Ellipsisbecause I have limited hard drive space
13:02.19honembuy a new hard drive
13:02.21EllipsisI usually keep it to around 15-18
13:02.23Ellipsislaptop
13:02.24Neehahsits cheap!
13:02.35honemtape an external HD on the top
13:02.44Ellipsisoh, I know why
13:02.44Neehahsget a etherdrive
13:02.50Neehahsan*
13:03.01Ellipsisbah
13:03.09Ellipsisit's my fault for updating clearfont >_>
13:03.17nomenquishonem, sub 1k rep iirc
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13:03.26nomenquishonem hdz2 is around 1.1k
13:03.30honemty
13:03.38honemhdz2 ??
13:03.46Kirkburn|sleeplol, Ellipsis, it's hardly going to make a difference :P
13:03.49nomenquisahh, sorry, german acronyms, cot2 :)
13:03.52Neehahs9 remaining ..
13:03.53Neehahsyippee
13:04.04honemlol silly germans
13:04.14EllipsisKirkburn|sleep: no, see, I had modified my local copy so it didn't rely on all the font files (which take up 13% of my interface dir when present)
13:04.19Neehahsall done, brb to report whether it works
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13:04.23nomenquisyea, most german names _really_ suck
13:05.03Ellipsisbut I was debugging problems with sharedmedia fonts and tried replacing my modified CF with the most recent one
13:05.03Ellipsisso the files came back and bloated the dir :P
13:05.03Beaver|Emasymhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1634093463&sid=1
13:05.03Beaver|EmasymAre they gonna QQ about this now?
13:06.03Zhonglol?
13:06.06nomenquisof course they are ^^
13:07.10nomenquisthb, one wouldn't be able to kill this guy in pvp anyway, so giving him spelldmg just fastens the process :)
13:07.34sariasomeone can help me with my omen? :D entering the game "../omen/libs/aceevent-2.0/acevent-2.0.lua:735:Gratuity-2.0 attemot to call a nil value" popps up :(
13:07.55cryogenspelldmg doesnt mean too much without spec tbh
13:08.00cryogenit's just a nice little boost
13:08.02Neehahsgrrr, to the mazzle forums I go
13:09.07honemupdate omen saria
13:09.18honemmine is the latest and doesnt produce that error
13:09.36honemhttp://files.wowace.com/Omen
13:09.53sariadlded the last file but still the error popps up
13:11.05honemversion 54414 saria ?
13:11.20sariajep
13:11.31silentiumsounds like an error with gratuity or ace, not necessarily omen itself - update your libs too if you run disembedded
13:11.36Ellipsissaria: update all your addons
13:11.45EllipsisOmen is getting blamed but it's not the one using the lib
13:11.46honemyeah i run self contained
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13:12.20silentiumit may be any other bugged addon using those libs just as well
13:12.20honemthe wow blizzard error reporter blames the last one to fail not the actual one that originated the error
13:12.30sariaah ok
13:12.36honemtry installing a decent bug capturer
13:12.43honemeg
13:12.49sariaso ill start downloading all updated versions ;D
13:12.55silentiumbugsack/buggrabber
13:14.35ramozbaah
13:14.43ramozi wanna go home from work and make my helicopter!
13:14.52honemroflcopter
13:14.57Ellipsis^
13:14.58ramozcoolcopter
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13:20.15Orionshock:((**
13:20.26OrionshockWiped on NB @ 2%
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13:22.02Neehahsok, got it working ^^
13:22.13Neehahsexcept for Autobar
13:22.23Neehahswhich is the addon I kinda rely on most :\
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13:22.48Neehahsbloody mazzleshit
13:24.22[Ammo]guildbank is pwn
13:24.34JoshBorke[Ammo]: implement my idea for SD
13:24.38honemNeehahs : http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar/
13:24.41[Ammo]what idea?
13:24.50honem*whine*
13:24.50JoshBorke[Ammo]: repair cost in character pane
13:24.55honemAmmmmoooo
13:24.57[Ammo]oh good idea
13:25.01[Ammo]where would it show
13:25.03honemupdate postal already !
13:25.11Ellipsisthey changed the way flying mounts animate :(
13:25.13[Ammo]get BulkMail2 and BulkMail2Inbox
13:25.20honemkk
13:25.21JoshBorke[Ammo]: i don't have a long name so i don't know if it could go in the name
13:25.30[Ammo]hmm
13:25.38honemall i want to do is use "open all" when opening mail will that do it ?
13:25.42Ellipsisyes
13:25.42[Ammo]yes
13:25.49[Ammo]BulkMail2Inbox will do that
13:25.50JoshBorkehai
13:25.52JoshBorkesi
13:25.53JoshBorkeja
13:26.00[Ammo]hmm josh
13:26.03[Ammo]it's a good idea
13:26.12[Ammo]but it needs to go somewhere useful
13:26.22JoshBorkebottom right below the trinkets
13:26.43Ellipsisdura % on the right, cost on the left?
13:26.48Ellipsissince the left gap is slightly wider
13:26.50Fisker-you fail phyber
13:26.56JoshBorkeyea, left would be better
13:26.59JoshBorkeor at the top
13:27.03Fisker-fizzle change broked it
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13:27.39JoshBorkerepair cost and overall percentage below it at the top right or top left
13:27.47JoshBorkenext to the Level <XX> <Race> <Class> text
13:28.00[Ammo]hmm
13:28.07[Ammo]I'd have to fiddle with it
13:28.15JoshBorkeooo, oo, i know
13:28.27JoshBorkepercentage directly below teh armor section
13:28.33JoshBorkecost in the bottom left
13:28.36[Ammo]hmm
13:28.38JoshBorkeit's the most free space in the character pane
13:28.45JoshBorkeso the text can be the largest
13:28.55[Ammo]text should be same size as the rest
13:29.18Fisker-fiddle :))
13:29.20JoshBorkewell, larger than it would be on another spot
13:29.25[Ammo]yeah ok
13:29.26phyberFisker-: nice.
13:29.29phyberFisker-: what's the error?
13:29.30CIA-403kunda * r54650 10AHsearch/ (AHsearch.lua AHsearch.toc): (log message trimmed)
13:29.30CIA-4AHsearch:
13:29.30CIA-4- toc: Interface 20300
13:29.30CIA-4- fixed bug if you saved a search query in a sub-category that is no longer available with patch 2.3
13:29.30CIA-4Patch 2.3 changed some Auction House categories and sub-categories:
13:29.30Fisker-i wanna fiddle with you [Ammo]
13:29.31CIA-4If you saved search queries in sub-category that are no longer available or in categories that has changed:
13:29.34phyberI'm at work so it wasn't tested yet.
13:29.35CIA-4- go to: 'Search query: Edit' -> category -> search query -> 'Filters'
13:29.43Fisker-sec phyber
13:29.46Ellipsisfwiw, I'm not having problems with Fizzle >_>
13:29.55Fisker-2007/11/14 14:29:46-2186-x1]: Fizzle-20100-1\Core.lua:160: attempt to call global 'GetInventoryDurability' (a nil value)
13:30.07phyberhmmm!
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13:31.17Neehahshonem - new autobar doesn't work :(
13:31.28NeehahsI'm going to try reverting versions till it does ^^
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13:31.56honemtahts all i can suggest ....that and dont use autobar for a few days
13:32.02dreamssit does neehahs
13:32.12IndustrialNeeds more Ellipsis; http://www.gta4.ws/archives/64
13:32.15phyberFisker-: it should work.  oRA2 uses the same function now.
13:32.26Ellipsisuh oh
13:32.27Neehahsaye
13:32.31dreamsswhats broken in autobar?
13:32.38honemdidnt i test AutoBar last night ?
13:32.38Ellipsisit's never a good sign when you say anything "needs more Ellipsis"
13:32.39Neehahsit works, just not with mazzleui lol
13:32.43phyberare you playing on some dodgy not yet 2.3 not-blizzard server?
13:32.47Industrialor is it :p
13:32.47Obelix|Workautobar doesn't do manna
13:33.01Ellipsiswell, it is if you say YOU need more Ellipsis
13:33.04Ellipsisbut that's a bit different
13:33.12dreamssdoesn't do manna?
13:33.19Obelix|Workconjured manna bisquits
13:33.25Obelix|Workbiscuits
13:33.25Neehahsit's working !!!!!!!
13:33.28Neehahsw000t
13:33.36honemlike i said neehahs ..muzzle retrofitted a lot of addons
13:33.42Obelix|Workdoesn't show up in autobar
13:33.43Neehahsaye
13:33.52dreamssdont u just need to add the item obelix
13:33.57Obelix|Workprobably
13:34.12NeehahsI got it working by reverting to older version of Autobar
13:34.17nomenquisrofl, the new blinding powder tooltip is really nice :)
13:34.19NeehahsI guess I'll just wait a few days
13:34.27honemfor the update yes
13:34.33honemauthors are only human
13:34.35Ellipsisoh snap Industrial
13:34.36Ellipsis<3
13:34.38Obelix|Worki didn't have time to configure it, but considering how its a staple item you'd think it would be included... which i hope it will be eventually lol :D
13:34.43Industrialoh shi-
13:34.45Neehahsindeed :)
13:34.48Fisker-oh u indibindi
13:34.48honemthey need to play and find out how to update
13:34.49Fisker-damnit
13:34.51Fisker-oh u Industrial
13:34.58IndustrialEllipsis: <3 :3
13:35.01sariahm got it..elkanos buff bars caused the error :/
13:35.03kenlyriccart just installed on me when updated all addons. that was strange.
13:35.05IndustrialFisker-: NO U
13:35.07kenlyric*uninstalled
13:35.09Fisker-:(
13:35.11dreamssObelix|Work, lol..... lack of user input dosent make addons broken
13:35.15dreamssjust users lazy
13:35.17Fisker-i thought we were bff's Industrial
13:35.25Neehahscartographer is working fine my side
13:35.25indibindihighlight!
13:35.35kenlyricit works fine.
13:35.37EllipsisFisker-: no longer friends - competitors for my love!
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13:35.45kenlyricit just uninstalled itself. Like it was trying to get away.
13:35.49Neehahslmfao
13:35.50Fisker-:( Ellipsis
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13:36.01Neehahsnot in the mood to give you waypoints then ^^
13:36.04Industriallol.
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13:36.23kenlyricmen compete for breasts, not love.
13:36.30Neehahswell said
13:36.45Ellipsiswell, I have those too
13:36.50Industrialkenlyric: did you even see the link I just posted :D?
13:37.00Ellipsisbut my love is more important and any guy who wants either will at least pretend to agree with me ;)
13:37.04kenlyricindustrial, no, actually.
13:37.15IndustrialEllipsis is always right.
13:37.19Ellipsishaha
13:37.19Industrial*cough*
13:37.26Industrial\o/
13:37.32kenlyricMy love don't cost a thing, the breasts are $20 for five minutes.
13:37.40Industriallol
13:37.47Lyn_:o
13:38.02Ellipsisgrr, my mount macro is borken now :(
13:38.06Neehahsok all my addons are working great ... ty for the moral support all - time to lvl a few chars to 60 fast ^^
13:38.10kenlyrichmmm.. I have a quest!
13:38.10Neehahsbyebye :)
13:38.16kenlyrici adore the new mouseover icons
13:38.23Neehahsaye me too :)
13:38.23dreamssoh dam
13:38.27dreamsskefty charge
13:38.29IndustrialI have yet to see.. 5% downloading
13:38.38Industrials/ing/ed/
13:38.40kenlyrictroll witchery!
13:38.41sariahm wich addon for buffbars are yáll using? :D
13:38.45nomenquisw00t, they finally fixed auto looting for disenchanting!
13:38.57kenlyricI use the ebbs
13:38.58Industrialsaria: default
13:38.59Funkeh`is WAU working now?
13:39.09KivinAnyone know if Evil Elvis ever comes about this place? I'd be interested to speak to him... since I'm rewriting eePanels
13:39.10Ellipsisnomenquis: yeah I mentioned that a few hours ago :P
13:39.12Lyn_saria, morganti's buff bar :x
13:39.21EllipsisKivin: you're doing what now?
13:39.25Industrialkenlyric: :O
13:39.27sariak morgantis s what i´m dlding now ;D
13:39.28IndustrialKivin: *
13:39.29nomenquisEllipsis: thank god they did that. disenchating greens took hours without ^^
13:39.34Obelix|Worksaria: I'm using Buffalo
13:39.47IndustrialKivin: post on the forums :p
13:39.49Ellipsisnomenquis: er...yeah, it did unless you grabbed an addon to fix it or used some other trick :P
13:39.54kenlyricKivin: why are you doing this?
13:39.54CIA-403kunda * r54651 10AHsearch/AHsearch.lua: AHsearch: fix bug with last commit...grrr
13:40.01IndustrialKivin: thats a "everyone needs to know" thing :P
13:40.04Kivin@ all, anchoring support, amongst stuff
13:40.08kenlyricisn't evilelvis rewriting eepanels?
13:40.14Industrialexactly
13:40.34Kivinperhaps 'rewriting' isn't the correct word, here... more like writing from the ground up with the same vision
13:41.30Ellipsisbut why?
13:41.40Ellipsisit was just rewritten and I can't think of anything it could possibly need
13:41.51Kivinbecause i can... and it's missing anchoring, which drives me insane
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13:42.09Ellipsismissing anchoring?
13:42.30Kivin*nod*
13:42.35Ellipsismine anchor just fine...
13:42.54KivinI want to be able to, say, anchor BOTTOMRIGHT to SomePanel's CENTER with X/Y offsets, i can't do that with eepanels
13:43.01Ellipsis...yes you can
13:43.05Ellipsisare you using eePanels2?
13:43.12KivinYeah?
13:43.23CIA-403nimbal * r54652 10Buffalo/Buffalo.lua:
13:43.23CIA-4Buffalo:
13:43.23CIA-4* Fixed %d Display of buff times
13:43.36KivinWas just looking at it in rock config... i didn't have that option
13:43.38Ellipsisit has options for the frame to anchor to, and the anchor from/anchor to points
13:43.44Ellipsisdid you enable advanced config?
13:43.49Kivinyes, sir
13:43.51CIA-403nimbal * r54653 10Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.toc Buffalo2_Button.lua):
13:43.51CIA-4Buffalo2:
13:43.51CIA-4* TOC -> 2.3
13:43.51CIA-4* Fixed %d display of buff times
13:43.53Ellipsis<--not a sir
13:44.06Kivin-.-; Yes, Ellipsis
13:44.09Ellipsisheh
13:44.27KivinThink I need to trash my savedvariables and reinstall in the wau
13:44.30Ellipsiswell I don't know what to say, I have all the anchoring options you're looking for on my screen o.O
13:44.38Ellipsismake double sure that you have advanced mode enabled, imo
13:44.44Kivinquite certain i do
13:45.00Kivinbecause i kicked myself in the ass when i overlooked that the first time around
13:45.02CIA-403wobin 07Wobin * r54654 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.toc PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow: Fixed Toc and PT3.1 ref
13:45.03CIA-403phyber * r54655 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
13:45.03CIA-4Fizzle:
13:45.04CIA-4- Use gratuity again. This also means that oRA2 is broken, unless that's somehow pulling a GetInventoryDurability() function out of its arse.
13:45.41Obelix|WorkYou know, I think it is pulling it out of its arse
13:46.41phyberit will only break when someone checks your durability, it will look like it's working until then
13:46.47Ellipsisphyber: that API function was just added in 2.3 o.O
13:47.00phyberEllipsis: yes, so why can't I use it?
13:47.19Ellipsis...good question
13:47.21phyberdid blizzard forget to include it in the patch?
13:47.58Ellipsiswell...maybe
13:47.59[Ammo]got it working Josh
13:48.34Ellipsisphyber: you sure oRA doesn't use GetInventoryItemDurability()?
13:48.43Ellipsisbecause that's actually a function on my client
13:48.44[Ammo]it does :p
13:49.00Industrial[Ammo]: how's the Ace3 beta (docs >:o <3) coming along :D?
13:49.02phyber<PROTECTED>
13:49.07phyberno "Item" in there.
13:49.12CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54656 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: add average durability % and cost to bottomleft of the paperdoll frame
13:49.18[Ammo]oh maybe I fucked up oRA2 then
13:49.59CIA-403ammo * r54657 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: bugfix durability
13:50.25Ellipsishay cool I helped
13:51.03[Ammo]hrmf josh left
13:51.10CIA-403phyber * r54658 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
13:51.10CIA-4Fizzle:
13:51.10CIA-4- Try again.
13:51.12Ellipsisso um, is that SmoothDurability thingy ready for use yet?
13:51.14EternI'm trying to make my first commit to the svn, and followed the instructions in the SVN for beginners article , and  I got errors on props, so I followed the instructions in the Autoprops article. However I still get complaints about my .lua and .toc files having the correct eol settings. I'm using TortoiseSVN on windows. The response from the server I'm getting is at http://pastebin.com/m5ac883f2
13:51.23[Ammo]Ellipsis: only if you install the Ace3 beta standalone as well
13:51.24Ellipsis'cause like...I've been looking for something to add that durability info to my paperdoll
13:51.26[Ammo]but yeah
13:51.33[Ammo]it also does nifty stuff with the armored man
13:51.41Ellipsisincluding make him go away?
13:51.43kenlyric"LibSharedMedia-2.0\LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua:210: assertion failed!" I see this  randomly
13:52.00Ellipsisthen maybe you should stop randomly failing assertions
13:52.00Ellipsis;D
13:52.07[Ammo]Etern: do propset svn:eol-style native
13:52.08WobinEtern: Did you follow the instructions given?
13:52.09[Ammo]on your files
13:52.14[Ammo]rightclick in tortoise on the file
13:52.22[Ammo]go to the tortoise menu -> properties
13:52.23[Ammo]add
13:52.24WobinIt's all in that error =P
13:52.28[Ammo]name of the property: svn:eol-style
13:52.31[Ammo]contents: native
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13:54.52EternThanks, I'll do that. But isn't the autoprops suppoosed to set that?
13:54.54Wobinhave you set them?
13:54.55[Ammo]I dunno
13:54.57[Ammo]I don't use autoprops
13:56.09EllipsisI hope you're happy [Ammo], I'm actually using a svn client just for this one addon
13:56.10Ellipsis>_>
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13:56.50TNSeW T F
13:56.56TNSethey removed the option for sound at camera???
13:57.05Wobinsigh
13:57.10WobinI'm so going to be shaped =P
13:57.22EternWobin: if you mean if I've set the autoprops according to the instructions on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps then yes, I believe I've done that
13:57.38Ellipsisomg seriously TNSe?
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13:57.48TNSeI can't find it ffs
13:57.54TNSefirst I thought sounds were weird
13:57.55TNSereally weird
13:58.04TNSethen I realized thep roblem, went to fix, and cannot find the option
13:58.17Ellipsisyou're right though, I can't find it either
13:58.33TNSewtf kinda shit change is that
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13:58.36xerawxi noticed that too
13:58.40EllipsisI haven't been able to play with sound yet, but it's going to annoy me so much when I do :(
13:58.42xerawxsucks balls
13:58.47vithosi just read about that sound change in worldofraids undocumented changes list.
13:58.48Quertyheya
13:58.50Quertyuhm i need some help
13:58.58Ellipsis~asktoask
13:58.58purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
13:58.58WobinEtern: You may have to copy them into another folder and try redoing it
13:59.27Brunershmm, is the colour of the CE hippogryph random or?
13:59.31EternWobin: I'll try that. Thanks
13:59.32Quertywhat is the command to change Squeenix`s map frame
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14:00.59Quertyhello?
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14:01.15WobinThere's a command?
14:01.36Ellipsisto change squeenix's map frame?
14:01.38Quertyive change it before but forgot the command for changing the frame
14:01.39Quertyyeh
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14:02.52SouLsDeVouReRhey hey
14:03.03WobinQuerty: What does /squeenix return?
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14:03.11Quertysec
14:03.19SouLsDeVouReRwhere's the new version of Ace ( link ) ?
14:03.30evl?
14:03.33EternWobin, Ammo: it's not working at the moment, but it'll have to wait until after Zul'aman. Thanks for your help :)
14:03.35evlace is a library
14:04.16SouLsDeVouReRwhen i start the game i got an error message that ask me another version of Ace ( only with 2.3 )
14:04.32QuertyWobin nothing
14:04.40evlSouLsDeVouReR: try to run the wowaceupdater or something
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14:05.04WobinQuerty: No idea, then
14:05.18Quertynvm thank you anyway
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14:20.27CIA-403tornhoof * r54659 10Yata/Yata.toc:
14:20.27CIA-4Yata:
14:20.28CIA-4- push toc to 20300
14:21.46CIA-403ammo 07Ace3 * r54660 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: justify left not right.
14:23.02CIA-403zuno 07v2.0 * r54661 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
14:23.02CIA-4UnitActionBars:
14:23.02CIA-4- Added (untested) OzRaid and PerfectRaid unitframe support.
14:23.34QuertyCan anyone tell me Minimap Mod so i can change his frames...?
14:23.55Ellipsishuh?
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14:24.23Quertyi need
14:24.27Quertyminimap mod
14:24.44Tornhoofsqueenix
14:24.50Quertytell me the command
14:24.53Quertythan
14:25.00Tornhoofbut it does not yet support that new tracking icon
14:25.02Tornhoofuhm?
14:25.20Quertytell me the command wich is changing squeenix`s frame
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14:25.52Tornhoofuhm?
14:26.03Quertyughh
14:26.31Zhongz /shrug can't find anything about a frame when i do /squeenix
14:27.00Quertyexactly
14:27.04Quertyi forgot it
14:27.07Quertydamn..
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14:30.36Ellipsisnot sure what you mean by changing its frame, but if squeenix doesn't dow hat you want, you can always try simpleminimap or something
14:32.28Funkeh`squeenix moves the minimap frame
14:32.32Funkeh`it doesn't make frames
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14:37.23Ellipsissigh, why even bother confirming looting a BoP item out of a BoP container?
14:37.33EricaHi... are instance maps broken in cartographer?  I can't open any of them but I can open zones ok
14:38.30EricaLooks like a lot of the rock stuff needs updating
14:39.01dylanmWell that's not happening, it would seem :p
14:39.04CIA-403mallen * r54662 10TradeBar/TradeBar.toc:
14:39.04CIA-4TradeBar:
14:39.04CIA-4- updated TOC for Patch 2.3.0
14:39.07kenlyricxp changes screwed up all my rest calcs.
14:39.10kenlyric161% rested!
14:39.20nomenquisdylanm: why?
14:40.22EricaAnyone know if there's a good map mod that's been updated?
14:40.57Lukiancartographer? :p
14:41.04Ericanope  lol
14:41.07kenlyricyes
14:41.11Lukianwhat do you mean "nope" ?
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14:41.18EricaI can't see any instance maps
14:41.22Ellipsisbe patient
14:41.30Ellipsisnot everything can be fixed on the first day
14:41.56EricaAh ok... I just wanted to know mainly if someone's still working on the rock stuff
14:42.13Grumi wonder why instance maps matter *at all*
14:42.17Ellipsisckk has been busy with rl stuff, particularly this week
14:42.21Grumits not like you can see the location on it orso O.o
14:42.24SaladinBecause you dont get lost, Grum
14:42.30Ellipsishe will probably fix it soon if nobody else gets to it first
14:42.31EricaI use them to look at boss loot
14:42.35Saladinindeed
14:42.51EricaI do get lost... I'm terrible
14:42.56EricaGimme maps  :P
14:43.01Grumlike instance maps can make you get not lost
14:43.07Grumespecially instances like Karazhan
14:43.17Grumthe map completely doesnt tell you where to walk :)
14:43.19EricaWaypoints ftw... I don't know how I lived without them
14:43.48GrumLOL
14:43.53Grumwhat kind of waypoints? :P
14:44.02Grum'Curator left here!'
14:44.06Ericacartographer waypoints... helping find locs
14:44.21Ericait puts an arrow on the screen that updates realtime
14:44.41PkekyoJust fished Crysis Special Edition outta the mailbox :)
14:44.48Ellipsishow was it Pkekyo?
14:44.58Grumi know the waypoint arrow, i just dont know how it relates to cartographer+instancemaps :D
14:45.16EricaAh ok  lol
14:45.32PkekyoEllipsis: the fishing it out part? pretty cool...installing atm
14:45.32Grumi wonder .. if Cartographer_Routes still works =D
14:45.39EricaThanks for your help... back to dailies
14:45.48EricaI haven't played with routes much
14:46.22Pkekyowtf is this shit?! candy without artificial ingredients?! O.o
14:46.34Grummust taste like crap
14:46.54Pkekyonot more than regular candy tbh
14:47.09Pkekyokinda tasty actually...this is fucking SCARY!
14:47.49Grumoh humz i prolly have to bounce the toc to 20300 for _Routes :P
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14:49.13Pkekyonot even the color of the candy is artificial O.o zomg
14:49.25CIA-403bam * r54663 10ItemPrice-1.1/ (ItemPrice-1.1.lua ItemPrice-1.1.toc):
14:49.25CIA-4ItemPrice-1.1:
14:49.25CIA-4- Price updates.
14:49.25CIA-4- TOC update.
14:50.08Leialynis there alreay a mail addon that can withdraw the content of the "boxes" with once click?
14:50.29CIA-403simlan * r54664 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.toc: ActionCombat: Updated interface version
14:50.30Ellipsisthere are quite a few
14:50.39Ellipsistry BulkMail2Inbox
14:50.40CIA-403bam * r54665 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (ItemPriceTooltip.lua ItemPriceTooltip.toc):
14:50.40CIA-4ItemPriceTooltip:
14:50.40CIA-4- Support for guild bank.
14:50.40CIA-4- TOC update.
14:51.00Leialyndo I need BulkMail2 as well?
14:51.14EllipsisI don't think so, but it might be good to have if you're also doing mass-sending
14:51.29SunTsuLeialyn: BulkMail2 is for sending bulk mail, BulkMail2Inbox for receiving.
14:51.46LeialynI can do mass sending with blizzard mail system :>
14:51.55Leialynand AltClickToAddItem
14:51.56kenlyriclies
14:51.56Ellipsisup to a certain limit...
14:52.01Leialyn12 yes
14:52.02SunTsuLeialyn: Does that have sending rules, too? ;)
14:52.03kenlyricyou don't know what bulk sending is then.
14:52.12Leialyndo I need rules?
14:52.17kenlyricyes
14:52.24kenlyricthey'll make you weep with joy
14:52.28Ellipsisyou can't automatically send your entire inventory full of stuff to the characters that need to bank/sell it with the default UI :P
14:52.29SunTsuLeialyn: That's what you have to decide.
14:52.31IndustrialI use PriorityMail
14:52.41Industrialfills in the last selected nick and sends an item on alt click
14:52.48Industrialso i just clikc the items and they are already sent
14:52.55LeialynEllipsis: I'm fine with just altclicking the stuff to add it to mails
14:53.08kenlyricthen bulkmail is overkill for you.
14:53.11Ellipsis^
14:53.14kenlyricthen again, I thought *I* was fine too.
14:53.18kenlyricthen it touched the crack.
14:53.26kenlyricwow, that was a bad typo.
14:53.29Ellipsis...
14:53.36Ellipsisshow me on the doll where the addon touched you
14:53.50Pkekyoahahah
14:53.58Industriallol
14:54.13Pkekyogolden!
14:54.14Ellipsisdid he use his private parts?
14:54.35Industrialcould have been a she!
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14:54.50Ellipsispfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack
14:54.54Obelix|Workwtb more bags
14:54.56Ellipsis...I so did not just say that
14:57.46kenlyricok, recorded for all time
14:57.50kenlyric~kenlyric
14:57.51purlextra, extra, read all about it, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack
14:58.19Grumyou should have edited that for be more accurate
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14:59.51Ellipsiskenlyric, I hate you
15:00.39Livid``Anyone having problems with AutoBar since last update ?
15:00.54kenlyricthat's kinda cool.
15:01.06kenlyricIf I hit heroic strike and don't have enough rage, it turns off autoattack.
15:01.16kenlyrichelpful buff!
15:01.19SunTsuLivid``: No, for some time longer ;)
15:01.25Grumkenlyric: lol
15:01.28Pkekyokenlyric: that better bloody be sarcasm
15:01.47GrumEllipsis: kenlyric being mean to you?
15:02.10CIA-403simlan * r54666 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.toc: ActionCombat: Improved Addon description
15:02.44Higdurgg, won AV 1-0... pretty even :)
15:02.48PoofErr. Was this the patch that included unique IDs on NPCs?
15:02.55kenlyricwno
15:02.59Ellipsisnope, wait for 2.4
15:03.01Poof=(
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15:03.26PoofANd, because I'm going insane looking...
15:03.31thulgood afternoon.
15:03.39PoofKnow where I can change my health to a number ion the UI now? =/
15:03.41thulIs it just me, or should I do something with my ace2? :-)
15:03.43PoofI only have it at a %
15:03.47Ellipsisinterface options
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15:03.54Poofweird. cna't find it >.<
15:04.01Ellipsisit's on the right side
15:04.15PoofOh, I see why not. =/
15:04.20Poof(*now
15:05.18Chompersdamnit, the ptr bug is following me
15:05.21thuli get like heaps of errors when i start wow.
15:05.33Chompersi log in, everyones called unknown and i disconnect
15:05.37thulI'll return quickly with a more defined error msg :-P
15:05.49EllipsisChompers: welcome to the red question mark club :D
15:06.35GrumChompers: what kind of networkcard?
15:06.50Grumor ethernet adapter (on your box that you wow with)
15:07.05EllipsisChompers: http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=19465&categoryId=2091&parentCategoryId=2088&pageNumber=1
15:07.34Ellipsismay or may not help, but sems to fix the problem more than any other "solution" I've seen
15:07.54Chompersis that the nic tweak guide?
15:08.06Chompersah it is, did nothing for me
15:08.23Grumthen moving countries might solve it
15:08.29Grumbut its a nic problem
15:08.32Poofhmm
15:08.39Ellipsisit is *not* always a nic problem
15:08.45PoofWhy the heck does checksum offloading cause wow issues...
15:08.46Poof*_*
15:08.51KazieAnyone who can tell me how to make omen show only when in party?=
15:08.55Chompersonboard nvidia device
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15:08.59Ellipsiswhen I had it, it persisted on three different nics, despite applying the fix given there
15:09.11GrumEllipsis: it could also be a corrupted cache
15:09.13EllipsisI don't know what fixed it, but it did go away eventually
15:09.27EllipsisGrum: I deleted the cache files of course
15:09.29Chompersi get about 2 seconds after i log in where i can do things
15:09.41Chompersonly took an hour to get to the if flightmaster
15:09.43Grumyeah that is 'normal' behaviour for that problem
15:10.03Chompersand i've been on my alt all morning
15:10.19Chompersthat character worked fine, makes me think it's addon related
15:10.22Ellipsisif yours is like mine, Chompers, then you may just have to keep trying until it works a bit longer and a bit longer...
15:10.27Pkekyowell, just got Crysis installed so I'm going AWOL...laters all
15:10.42Ellipsishf Pkekyo
15:10.49Pkekyowill do
15:10.55GrumEllipsis: that is a horribe thingie O.o
15:11.06Ellipsismy thingie is horrible? :(
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15:11.24KazieAnyone who can tell me how to make omen show only when in party?=
15:11.44Ellipsisdisable the "show while solo" and "show with pet" options?
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15:11.51KazieI did
15:12.00Ellipsisif it's still showing up that's a bug
15:12.13Kazieauw :s
15:12.26Grumi thought that bug was fixed ages ago
15:12.47Ellipsiseh, I've had problems with it randomly deciding it should be hidden while in a group or shown while solo
15:13.34Grumbecause it contained 2 toggles with 5 settings orso O.o
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15:14.21thulhmm, no arena season1 vendors atm?
15:14.26kadrahilnext week
15:15.03Zhinjio~seen toadkiller
15:15.09purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 52m 38s ago, saying: 'er so whats the real WAU location to dl from?  wwace.com.wau2 or something?'.
15:15.15ZhinjioBlah.
15:15.47winkillerah well, I managed to get Bartender, but is it really broken?
15:16.19winkiller(not the usual SITE DOEWN LIEK WTF rant)
15:16.25Ellipsisbroken how?
15:16.30Ellipsismine's working
15:16.34Grumit was working like 30m ago
15:16.36ZhinjioHey Ellipsis!
15:16.39winkillerit doesn't show and I have standard ui
15:16.45Grum~taser Zhinjio
15:16.46purlACTION stuns Zhinjio with a taser, then drags Zhinjio out into the middle of highway 666
15:16.59Grumwinkiller: you were bright enough to say: "load outdated addons" ?
15:17.00Zhinjioanyone know how to add an additional bar in autobar besides "Default" and "Druid"?
15:17.09nevcairielbartender works fine for me
15:17.09Zhinjioer, "Basic"
15:17.10winkillerofcourse, Grum
15:17.28winkillermost stuff works, just Bartender vanished
15:18.18Ellipsisare you getting any errors?
15:18.30winkillerif I can find where they are silenced.
15:18.38winkillernvm thanks, if it works for others Ill fimnd the prob
15:18.41Zhinjiothis is my first use of autobar.
15:18.57Ellipsiswinkiller: interface options -> display lua errors
15:19.00Zhinjioi figured if I'm going to redo my UI, it might as well include that
15:19.09Zhinjioyay! empty bugsack
15:20.22CIA-403fleetfoot * r54667 10LittleTrouble/ (LittleTrouble.lua LittleTrouble.toc):
15:20.22CIA-4LittleTrouble
15:20.22CIA-4- Updated toc
15:20.22CIA-4- Some minor code tweaks
15:20.54Kalrothuuunf
15:21.44thulI'll ask again: ace 2 from before 2.3 is still functioning ?
15:21.57jjbwhy not?
15:22.09Zhinjioace2 is working fine.
15:22.09Ellipsisit's always a good idea to update, but there shouldn't be any major problems
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15:22.19thulok
15:22.22Zhinjioellipsis, do you use autobar?
15:22.27Ellipsisnope, sorry
15:22.28Josh_Borkeace2 works fine for me
15:22.39jjbhehe, i love autobar
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15:23.01Zhinjiojjb: do you know how to add an additional bar?
15:23.03jjbi already wasted 5 flasks or so
15:23.11Zhinjioor do you just use the 2 default ones?
15:23.12thulbut the ace2-copy on the site is 2 months old.. right?
15:23.18winkillerah, works now
15:23.44jjbzhinjio: iam happy if i have 1 working bar :P
15:23.44Josh_Borkethul: yea, sounds about right
15:23.50Zhinjiohahahah.
15:23.51Zhinjiooik
15:23.54Zhinjiook, even.
15:24.09ZhinjioI can settle for that too, with a bit of work.
15:24.09CIA-4ow
15:24.11thulok
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15:25.53thulI get: ..ddOns\ClosetGnome\libs\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:999:Gratuity-2.0:attempt to call a nil value
15:26.10thul(and another error msg like that on bartender if I disable closet gnome etc, in alphabetical order)
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15:26.42markt_i was getting Gratuity-2.0 errors before i did my update
15:26.50thulwell, I have an 5 day old ace2-copy.. and the newest one is 2 months old
15:26.50markt_but it's all fine now - just grab new everything
15:26.57thulok
15:26.58kadrahilso is the armory a little screwy for anyone else? it shows an %s after the arena title
15:27.05thulI'll try
15:27.23dylanmkadrahil: Yeah I saw that.
15:27.31markt_if you look at the error, you'll see that it's not ace2 that is causing the problem
15:27.40markt_it's a library in ClosetGnome
15:27.57markt_i would seriously advise updating all your addons anyway :)
15:28.14markt_latest addons make for less grouchy WoW :)
15:28.55enthspeaking of that... i'm using JWoWUpdater which is trying to fetch http://files.wowace.com/latest.xml ... and getting connection refused.  Any news on this?
15:29.07CIA-403nevcairiel * r54669 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: dont taint that global vars!
15:29.15PoofAnyway... Any idea why Blizzard recommends the disabling of "Checksum Offload" ? I always thought that feature improved throughput in most situations...
15:29.27markt_enth: you getting that right now?
15:29.32enthall day
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15:29.41Ellipsisenth: the server has been overloaded and not always available
15:29.50markt_seems to be working for me right at the moment
15:29.54SunTsuAnybody having a suggestion for a cooldown addon? I tried CooldownTimers2, which works OK except for soulstones. It alway forgets them after a short time
15:29.54CIA-403drool * r54670 10Nauticus/Nauticus.toc: Nauticus: gief TOC 20300
15:30.00Ellipsisit seems to be pretty stable right now
15:30.10capullosuntsu: i use cooldown
15:30.28EllipsisPoof: because it's a quick and dirty fix to an otherwise mysterious problem :P
15:30.29Josh_BorkeSunTsu: i use cooldown also
15:30.35Poofahh =P
15:30.41PoofCrazy blizz...
15:30.41Poof=/
15:30.58SunTsuOK, I'll try that. thanks
15:31.05Poof"Decrease your performance overall to make out game work like it should."
15:31.07PoofNice.
15:31.18Poofout/our
15:31.29RaydenUnihi guys
15:31.35Ellipsissince most users aren't technically inclined, and/or value WoW above all else on their systems, it makes sense :P
15:31.47PoofMEh
15:31.56markt_SunTsu: i use Cooling2
15:31.58capullosuntsu: if you use "no externals" you have to install some requirements of cooldown manualy
15:32.20SunTsucapullo: OK, I'll bear that in mind, thank you
15:32.26capulloiframefactory or so
15:32.33markt_SunTsu: and FuBar_SoulJarFu
15:32.33PoofHm
15:32.37PoofActually... WEird question for yas...
15:32.43Ellipsissouljarfu doesn't do cooldown :/
15:32.45capulloits old, but its one of the best cooldown addon :P
15:32.55Malakor_Can anyone tell me what it means if the addons are crossed out in WAU?
15:32.56markt_hmm, wonder which addon it is then :)
15:33.01Ellipsisso do I
15:33.03RaydenUniso thoughts on the new patch?
15:33.06Ellipsisif you recall having this discussion before :P
15:33.14enthmarkt_ Ellipsis: i'll be damned... my watchdog script for when it would come back up wasn't doing its job.  Thanks for the response - sorry for the news and much props for all ace2 devs/admins.
15:33.15markt_CheckStoneFu maybe
15:33.22PoofI have: IPv4 checksum Offload and TCP Checksum Offload... Should I disable both? Or just the TCP one? (I'm not worrying about UDP since Bliz seems allergic to UDP)
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15:33.36MS`Twilighthello
15:33.52MS`Twilightmaybe a stupid questionb ut what is the ingame command for cf?
15:33.53PoofSorry for asking a support forum question here... Just figured... Why not. =p
15:34.00PoofWhat is cF?
15:34.07MS`Twilightclearfont
15:34.08SunTsumarkt_: Thanks to you, too, I'll look into it right after testing cooldown
15:35.05MS`Twilighttried /cf or /clearfont but that doesnt work
15:36.31xyui am noob, what does the acronym CoR/FF  stand for?  i assume it's curse of..  but i'm having a mind fart
15:37.00MechaCurse of Recklessness? :o
15:37.11xyuand the FF?
15:37.12Poofhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=Curse+of+R#uncategorized-spells:50+1+2
15:37.13Poofya
15:37.51PoofTwilight... Just try looking on http://www.clearfont.co.uk/
15:37.56PoofI'm blind I think.
15:37.57xyuwhat's the FF? :D
15:38.07PoofFriendly Fire? I dunno.
15:38.13xyuhrm
15:38.15PoofFocus Fire
15:38.17PoofProb
15:38.21thulbtw: is pitbull lightweight?
15:38.22Megalonfearie fire
15:38.22Towbarnope
15:38.25PoofAhh.
15:38.25PoofOkay
15:38.43Towbarits a feral druid ability called faerie fire that reduces teh armor of teh target
15:38.49RaydenUniso i'm really trying to figure out what's a good use for Fear Ward in pve
15:38.54RaydenUnii can't think of any really
15:39.03Towbarnightbane for tanks that cant stance dance
15:39.06PoofOh... Twilight:
15:39.07PoofWhere's the CF2 options menu?
15:39.07PoofIn the above screenshots on the FuBar panel - second row, 4th icon from the right.
15:39.07PoofIt is accessed via a right-click on the 'CF' icon.
15:39.09PoofFrom the website
15:39.29capullothul: a pinscher is lightweight, not a pitbull :P
15:39.41winkillerLOL
15:39.50MS`Twilighti looked poof but i dont get it actually
15:40.14MS`TwilightSwitching between supplied fonts
15:40.14MS`TwilightUse the in-game options menu! Note that to change the ChatFrame font, you will have to reload the UI - type /rl.
15:40.19MS`Twilighti dont have an ingame menu actually
15:40.31thulcapullo: ha ha :-P
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15:40.55durcyn~seen elkano
15:40.58purlelkano <i=86603dd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-9214fd36aa7ea34d> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 54m 52s ago, saying: 'Lyn, should but as usual wont ;)'.
15:41.26MechaChrist.. Sometimes I just hate patches. My whole UI is sooo messed up ;(
15:41.27thulok, updated all ace-stuff :-) trying again
15:41.47thulI hate patches beacause i thought I could buy arena s1 stuff for honor now :-P
15:42.19Poul|Raiderdoes that autoupdater work under linux for acemods=
15:42.20Ellipsisand that's the patch's fault?
15:42.48markt_paul: get the java updater for linux goodness
15:42.54thulwee, error messages gone, thanks markt_
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15:43.10thulnow, next stupid question: the blizzard map decided to show up, even though I have the squeenix map
15:43.18markt_np - remember! when in doubt, update - don't shout!
15:44.02markt_sorry, can't help out there - i haven't investigated the joys of squeenix yet :)
15:44.49thulhehe
15:44.52thulok :-P
15:44.55thulI'll google
15:44.59thulI did update squeenix
15:45.01thulthough :-P
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15:46.05xyuguild name : When in doubt AFK out
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15:48.52xyupyroblast spam is viable with 3140 passive haste rating
15:48.57xyumy new goal
15:48.58markt_thul: i guess you've tried "/squeenix hide"?
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15:49.19sag_ich_nichtmy taint.log is 308 MB big
15:49.21sag_ich_nichtdiscuss.
15:49.26markt_lol
15:50.11sag_ich_nicht(i am not exaggerating, it is, in fact, 308 MB big)
15:51.29harldephinthere's something wrong with FramesResized. *points at the error in his bugsack*
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15:51.54lolinterneti blame you all for this
15:52.02Matrix110i disabled all addons and opening the guild control gives you a shitload of Blizzzard interface errors....
15:52.10Ellipsisit's probably my fault sag_ich_nicht
15:52.10Matrix110smth is wrong there:P
15:52.25Rafaeli have had trouble with WAU for a few weeks now...it never recongnizes that mods have been updated...so I just select all and update everytime i use it.
15:52.52sag_ich_nichtEllipsis 308 MB.
15:52.59sag_ich_nicht(i set taintLog to 2 tho :P)
15:53.16nevcairieltaintlog 2 is pointless
15:53.20nevcairielspams for every variable
15:53.27sag_ich_nicht:P
15:53.34sag_ich_nichtwe'll see about that!
15:53.56SunTsuI am afraid to start my WoW client when I am home
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15:54.04sag_ich_nichtcheer up
15:54.13sag_ich_nichti'm the guy with the most addon interferences in here
15:54.16sag_ich_nichtand i only had 5 errors
15:54.24sag_ich_nichtmeans if you properly updated, you'll probably have 0
15:54.43sag_ich_nichtnow lemme redownload editingui because it's fucking shit up because i forgot to update it
15:55.23ZhinjioI need a new texture to work with for my backgrounds panel elements.
15:55.35ZhinjioI'm getting kind of tired of the faded blue marbley thing I had going on
15:55.47Zhinjiohmm.
15:55.50sag_ich_nichtmhm
15:55.56sag_ich_nichteditingui not updated for 2.3?
15:55.56sag_ich_nichtfail
15:56.17ZhinjioI like a rusted metal sort of look/feel. Maybe I'll do that.
15:56.23Zhinjioa bit darker, more industrial looking.
15:56.33kadrahili need arena teams :(
15:57.08kadrahili wonder how hunter, spriest, ms warr, rogue, and a resto druid would do
15:57.16Poul|Raidersomething is wronge with prat, when disabled prat tabs toggle, it wont let me enable again
15:58.10a^i`SmaNso dont disable it
15:58.28kadrahilrogue could be swapped around with a mage or a holy pally for 2 healers
16:00.21Ellipsislovely
16:00.34Ellipsisit seems all the spiders in terrokar have decided that the insides of tree trunks are great places to hang out and evade bug
16:00.45Ellipsisand just when I needed a couple quick netherweb silk :(
16:01.37MS`Twilightpoof?
16:02.07thulEllipsis: go to BM
16:02.09thulkill trash
16:02.10thul:-P
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16:02.25EllipsisBM is quite far from shattrath, unfortunately
16:03.20ToadkillerZA is creepily stable on first release
16:03.32Poul|Raidershould Squeenix not make that new tracking thing move with the minimap?
16:03.42nevcairielit should
16:04.19thulhmm
16:04.27thulthe builtin map won't disappear here
16:04.34thulbtw, how hard is ZA compared to kara?
16:05.09Saladin"Zul'Aman continues where Karazhan left off"
16:05.11SaladinGO FIGURE
16:05.28MS`Twilightwhere should be the ingame menu from clearfont2 ?
16:05.59Ellipsisuh...
16:06.14Ellipsiswhy is BulkMail2 taking 1MiB?
16:06.20MS`Twilightbecause i have no menu and no / command actually
16:07.04[Ammo]Ellipsis: because it's the devil! (and you probably have a lot of embeds in it?)
16:07.09Ellipsisdisembedded libs
16:07.19harldephinEllipsis: because it's bulky
16:07.23EllipsisI'm not *that* nub :P
16:07.39ZhinjioToadkiller!
16:08.04Ellipsisoh well, at least it's just initializing high and not increasing
16:08.35Ellipsisstill worries me a bit
16:08.58ZhinjioTK: I have autobar questions!
16:09.15CIA-403toadkiller * r54671 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
16:09.15CIA-4PeriodicTable-3.0:
16:09.15CIA-4-- 34478 Tiny Spore Bat
16:09.15CIA-4-- 34062 Mana biscuits
16:09.15CIA-4-- "Find Fish" icon added to LibBabbleSpell-3.0
16:09.15CIA-4-- 34060, 34061 Engineer Mounts
16:09.17CIA-4-- 33934 Crystal Healing Potion, 33935 Crystal Mana Potion
16:09.21Zhinjioone: is it possible to make a new bar? I'd, like 3 of 'em.
16:09.29Zhinjioer, ideally, I'd like 3
16:09.45Zhinjioand second: how  do you make an "empty" button for a spacer?
16:10.03Zhinjiothat doesn't actually show as a button, but still takes up space
16:10.33ToadkillerOk make a custom button & delete its category then select "always show"
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16:11.34|Stan|Toadkiller: will you add all those things to 3.1, too?
16:11.56Zhinjiook, it still has the cyCircled button texture. I supposed thats not going away, eh?
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16:12.45Tsetsewhat's the deal with buffalo vs buffalo2?
16:12.50Toadkillerzhinjo: mmm, didnt used to ill look at it
16:12.56Ellipsisone is older, the other is newer
16:13.10Tsetseboth updated like... 2 mins ago
16:13.14Zhinjiook thanks. and the two defaults of "Basic" and "Druid" ... any way to make additional bars on the fly?
16:13.21NarrovHi Can anyone suggest an alternative mod to Onebag?
16:13.24thulSaladin: ok ok :-P
16:13.34ZhinjioNarrov: Bagnon works great for me.
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16:13.49Saladinthul: you are welcome
16:13.51EllipsisNarrov: what are you looking for exactly?
16:14.04Zhinjio<3 Bagnon.
16:14.14Tsetsebuu, did you ever play around with that warlock pet mod?
16:14.18Tsetse=)
16:14.22Ellipsiswarlock pet mod? *ears perk up*
16:14.34Tsetseyea, sct/parrot/etc dont track warlock pet abilities
16:14.47Tsetseso he was lookin at "shaman friend" addon to make something for locks
16:14.58NarrovI'm looking for a mod that will display all your bagslots in one window
16:15.11ToadkillerZhinjio: Ok as for bars, I have not officially finished the support for adding new ones.  They are however just in the preferences section so you could add some manually & then just not reset for a while ;-p
16:15.12Tsetsebut i think he may have given up
16:15.28Narrovrather than a separate window for each bag
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16:15.39ZhinjioTK: ok. I've managed to squirrel what I wanted into the two defaults, so I believe its all good.
16:16.16Zhinjiothanks for your help.
16:16.25ToadkillerFOr now you can also "activate " the druid bar.  It will get replaced by your class bar at some point though
16:16.28Tsetseooopps
16:16.47Toadkiller|Stan|: 3.1?
16:16.52harldephinNarrov: that's basically what all of those bag addons are for. i've had no disadvantages using Bagnon yet. it's simple, easy to use and that's it.
16:17.26EllipsisNarrov: er, and what exactly is wrong with OneBag for doing that?
16:17.35Narrovok thanks. I was using onebag but its out of date and doesnt work with the new patch :S
16:17.49harldephinnot that i'd not admire the work when i say "simple". i like simple things.
16:17.59Josh_BorkeNarrov: what doesn't onebag work with in the new version?
16:18.00|Stan|Toadkiller: LibPeriodicTable-3.1
16:18.01kenlyricI used onebag, then baggins, now arkinv, thinking of going back to onebag.
16:18.03Josh_BorkeNarrov: are you getting errors?
16:18.10Ellipsiser...OneBag works fine with the new patch as far as I know
16:18.21SunTsuToadkiller: Will I finally get to see something on the druid bar? :=
16:18.22harldephinOneBag was different. not bad, but not better than Bagnon either.
16:18.22kenlyricI just don't use the categories like I thought I would.
16:18.30SunTsus/=/)/
16:18.33ToadkillerZhinjio: The data for other class bars are in there so if u dupe the druid section you could make some bars...  THe preferences you dupe would have to keep being there though otherwise AcveOptions will mess your bars at some point.
16:18.35Icerothwah, what's with the slapping O.o
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16:18.45Ellipsisanything but OneBag is overkill if you just want all your bag slots in one window
16:18.55Josh_BorkeEllipsis: liar.  combuctor is <3
16:19.13Ellipsisyes but it's still overkill if you are OCD like me :P
16:19.14ZhinjioTK: The good news is, I don't have any druid toons that I actively play, so its a non-issue.
16:19.26ToadkillerNarrov: <-- another vote for bagnon!
16:19.41Ellipsisdon't get me wrong, I heart the concept and design of combuctor, but I just don't work that way :P
16:20.01harldephinOneBag actually felt like overkill to me, so i switched back to Bagnon when i was looking for the bag add-on best suiting my needs.
16:20.17Ellipsiso.O;;
16:20.18Josh_Borkei still use it as ust a regular bag
16:20.26ChoumarinAnyone knows how to disable guildbank skinning with skinner ?
16:20.26Josh_Borkeonly occasionally will i actually use the filters
16:20.53Tsetseis the buffalo author here? i got a bug from current version
16:21.02Toadkiller|Stan|Shit, did that ship already?
16:21.54sag_ich_nichtEllipsis, rejoice
16:22.01sag_ich_nichtblizzard updated their rendering code
16:22.09sag_ich_nichtnow your textures are only broken per zone!
16:22.13Ellipsisinorite
16:22.20Ellipsisthey didn't fix the "what antialiasing?" bug though
16:22.22Ellipsis>_>
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16:23.26LukianEllipsis, oh! details? I think a friend has that problem
16:24.04Ellipsiserm...in my case, I have 4x multisampling enabled, and every time I log in it seems to "forget" that and not use any multisampling at all
16:24.06RafaelI love Arkinventory.   ive tried the others but Ark is till the best imo
16:24.10harldephini don't see, what i would want filters or categories with my bags for anyways.
16:24.13Ellipsisa /console gxrestart fixes it until I relog
16:24.26LukianEllipsis, your video drivers aren't trying to override it?
16:24.29Ellipsisnope
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16:24.44SunTsuI like Baggins, but that is very far from having a single bag
16:24.44Ellipsismy video drivers are set to allow application control
16:25.16harldephinmy video drivers are set to all maximum quality values and i've had no problems with that yet
16:25.30ToadkillerSunTsu: Hehe as soon as  Iget around to finishing macro buttons... You know you can bind keys to them though right>
16:25.41EllipsisI will say though that my video drivers are terribly out of date (which is not my fault, I swear)
16:25.45Ellipsisthat may contribute to the problem
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16:25.52harldephinmaybe
16:26.04harldephinwhy not update then
16:26.10sjaakhi, i've got a SecureUnitButton, and i've tried settings attributes like SetAttribute("type", "target") and SetAttribute("unit", "target"). Its not working. If i set the unit attribute to "player" the button does work. Whats wrong?
16:26.39Josh_Borkesjaak: do you have a target?
16:26.45Ellipsisharldephin: I can't.
16:26.57sjaakJosh_Borke: Yes
16:27.10sag_ich_nichtokay
16:27.15sag_ich_nichtwrong channel
16:27.19EllipsisI use a Dell laptop, and Dell cripples their systems so that manufacturer drivers won't work
16:27.29Rafaelafter about 2 hours or so of messing around I think ive got just about all my UI mods working ok with 2.3...most still show out of date but enabled they still work.. Only Cartographer and all its sub-modules are borked
16:27.33harldephinthat sucks.
16:27.36EllipsisDell hasn't released updated drivers for my card for almost 2 years
16:28.05Ellipsisso I'm stuck until I find the patience/time to research third party drivers
16:28.09Rafaelno offense...but having worked with Dell...I can say that Dell sucks
16:28.13Ellipsiswhich I'm getting closer and closer to doing
16:28.13ToadkillerI only had issues with Postal as of last night.  This patch was pretty damn smooth imo
16:28.37Ellipsisoh, Dell definitely sucks
16:28.56Ellipsisbut it was the only place that could give me the specs I wanted in a gaming laptop while staying within my budget
16:29.00JPhey, can anybody point me to an easy to use all-in-one inventory ace mod? thanks :)
16:29.14EllipsisOneBag
16:29.19Tsetsemeh buffalo seems broken =(
16:29.19RafaelArkinventory is by favorite
16:29.26SunTsuToadkiller: I know that, but I actually have the problem that I am running out of rememberal key bindings ;)
16:30.08Kuja^wtf why in hell do i have an extra action bar now?
16:30.15JPEllipsis: is onebag working with 2.3? cause it seems to be over a month old
16:30.16Rafaelconsidering the # of changes...I would say 2.3 went smooth for game and for ui mods...at least for me...i have not noticed any obvious bugs or problems
16:30.32EllipsisJP: why wouldn't it be working?
16:30.34Josh_BorkeJP: so?
16:30.35kadrahilAB was fun last night
16:30.36EllipsisI haven't heard any problems
16:30.45JPok, tnx :) .. just making sure
16:30.46Ellipsisany engineers around?
16:30.47kadrahilfirst match i did i was top in damage, hk's, kb's, and only 3 deaths
16:30.59kadrahilerr
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16:31.05kadrahilfirst battleground i've done in a month
16:31.16Rafaeli tried AV 4 times...it sucked 4 times....but thats cause I am alliance and alliance sucks when it comes to adapting to changes
16:31.30kadrahilAV sucked last night for everyone
16:31.36kadrahilthe server was so insanely laggy
16:31.58kadrahileveryone was just standing around beating on each other and staring at each other all helpless
16:32.06Ellipsisbah
16:32.06RafaelI got like 100honor for 45min AV
16:32.13|Stan|Toadkiller: yup :)
16:32.14Ellipsisanyone know if you can extract motes from clouds while flying?
16:32.17kadrahilouch
16:32.19Ellipsisor do you have to dismount to use the extractor
16:32.26kadrahilEllipsis: what??
16:32.33Ellipsisengineer thing
16:32.36kadrahiloh
16:33.12SunTsuI am wonmdering whether I will have an extra action bar for flight form as I had on the PTR. I never figured out what this might be useful for
16:33.19SunTsuwondering even
16:33.23kadrahilwhy doesn't the battleground scoreboard say who won anymore at th etop?
16:33.25kadrahilthe*
16:33.35ChoumarinAnyone knows how to disable guildbank skinning with skinner ?
16:33.47Rafaelcause its always Horde =P
16:34.26EllipsisChoumarin: isn't it in the settings with all the other default Blizz frames?
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16:35.13Icerothis it just me or are the parrot's icon side "edge" and "center" totally broken?
16:35.29RafaelFor me I think EOTS will be better place to grind honor
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16:35.43ZhinjioI think I'm finally happy with my pitbull layout.
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16:36.49RafaelPitbull was a mod I did not have to make any changes too...it works just fine for me on 2.3.   Cartographer is only one thats seriously borked
16:37.58CIA-403paene * r54673 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua:
16:37.58CIA-4Cryolysis2:
16:37.58CIA-4-Moved a line of code to attempt to get rid of a visual bug with the main sphere
16:38.03ChoumarinEllipsis > nothing about guildbanks :/
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16:38.13CIA-403ulic * r54674 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: Hooray, I think I finally got BM working off WorldStates!
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16:39.47noobuserhello
16:40.16|Stan|Toadkiller: 3.1 is libstub based and..urm..better ^^
16:40.19deadlockHello everyone. The updated Cartographer, what do i do with the other files, i put the folders in the addon's section, but what about the files? (i.e. cartographerlod.sh, bindings.xml etc)
16:41.51Ellipsisping Industrial
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16:42.46nakkashello
16:42.55noobuserhi
16:43.47nakkascan anyone here assist me with my WAU problems? ( i have already tryed the solutionson the forum)
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16:44.40hlm[nl]just have some patience nakkas
16:44.50hlm[nl]the servers are extremely busy
16:45.11nakkasi know that but that is not the problem i am getting
16:45.36Kemayodeadlock: If you've downloaded a .zip of Cartographer, just extract the whole thing to you Interface/Addons directory.
16:45.40Tsetseis there a wowace tooltip addon?
16:45.52Tsetseaf_tooltips has lost ym love
16:45.53CartasSo, has today been a busy day for the WoWAce server(s)? :P
16:45.57Livid``tinytip
16:46.14KemayoTsetse: TinyTip or CowTip.
16:46.20CartasTinyTip!
16:46.22Josh_BorkeTsetse: CowTip, TinyTip is no longer Ace i thought
16:46.23CartasBest.
16:46.27deadlockKemayo: Thanks. I just noticed that as well. I was confused now everythings under one cartographer folder in addons. Which is very nice!
16:46.36Tsetsek
16:46.46KemayoThe Tinytip on wowace is still ace2.
16:46.47JPEllipsis: tnx, onebag is great and exactly what i was looking for :)
16:46.55Ellipsisglad I could help JP :)
16:47.12noobuserExcuse-me people, where can I learn about using librairies ? I do not understand, some of them are in addons folders, and some other must be installed in AddOns folder ?
16:47.32Ellipsisnoobuser: are you an addon developer?
16:47.37noobusernope
16:47.43Ellipsisthen you don't need to know about libraries
16:47.49Ellipsisyou should never be required to install them separately
16:47.53Kemayodeadlock: If you previously had the extracted version then you'll probably want to run cartographerlod.bat.
16:47.55Ellipsisall addons will come with their required libs
16:48.05noobusersometimes i get an .lua error because of missing librairies
16:48.11noobuserok
16:48.14Ellipsisdo you use an auto-updater?
16:48.15deadlockKemayo: How do i run that?
16:48.20noobuserno Ellipsis
16:48.31sjaakIs there some expression I should execute before I can perform operations on a secure button object?
16:48.33Kemayodeadlock: Assuming you're on Windows, just double-click the file.
16:48.40Ellipsisthen any errors about missing libs should be reported to the author of the addon named in the error message
16:48.45Ellipsisbecause they did something wrong :)
16:48.57noobuserok there was old addons
16:49.27noobuserand I wondered this because i've seen librairies into "packages" of UIs
16:49.50Ellipsismany UI compilations separate the libraries to reduce the size of the package
16:50.09sag_ich_nichtand reduce the loading time.
16:50.19Ellipsisfeh
16:50.21noobuserThank you for explaining to me
16:50.33noobuser(and sorry for bad english)
16:50.45sag_ich_nicht8D
16:51.12CartasHm...
16:51.18CartasMy cartographer isn't just in one folder.
16:51.36tinyboomis there a fix to pitbill not hiding party in raids?
16:51.50CartasOh, is Cartopgraher1 the Cartographer that'll be getting updated now?
16:51.52Ellipsisenable hide party in raid?
16:51.59|Stan|Cartas: NO
16:52.03CartasAh, okay.
16:52.04tinyboomEllipsis: tried, didn't work :(
16:52.11CartasI'll just leave it with lots of lovely folders then!
16:52.14Josh_BorkeCartas: Cartographer1 is just the Ace version of cartographer
16:52.14CartasThanks |Stan|.
16:52.22Ellipsisif your raid is only 5 people, make sure to disable display 5man raid as party
16:52.39Xinhuanzuljin down! (heh)
16:52.46tinyboomEllipsis: did;) though it might had something to with it being a bg.... AB daily quest:p
16:52.47Xinhuan3.5 hours for full clear
16:52.52Josh_BorkeXinhuan: grats
16:52.55Ellipsishm, perhaps
16:53.14noobuserCan I use WAU on a fresh install ? with no addons yet I mean
16:53.19Toadkiller|Stan|: Ok I will upgrade to 3.1 then, forever abandoning 3.0
16:53.24noobuserand add the addons I want ?
16:53.25Xinhuankilled with just 10 min to go on that maintenance
16:53.26Ellipsisit should work fine noobuser
16:53.26tinyboomEllipsis: haven't been enable to test in a normal raid yet, and at work atm...
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16:53.46|Stan|Toadkiller: I love you :D
16:53.54noobuserok, so install WAU and then addons ?
16:53.54Ellipsiswell, I haven't had problems, but I don't do BGs :P
16:54.05Ellipsisyup noobuser, go for it
16:54.11noobuserthank you
16:54.27stavmarToadkiller: I concur, Autobar is awesome
16:54.59hlm[nl]any1 knows a good alternative for Elkbuffbars?
16:55.04noobuserOh, and I'm seeking for a Chatmod alternative, if someone knows
16:55.07hlm[nl]I don't want to group buffs
16:55.16tinyboomnoobuser: prat?
16:55.17hlm[nl]noobuser: have u tried prat?
16:55.28noobuserno, I didn't know
16:55.30Cartasnoobuser: Mumble.
16:55.32CartasUse Mumble.
16:55.49noobuserthanks all
16:55.58deadlockKemayo: Im on linux, can i run the .sh instead of the .bat are they the same?
16:56.02Ellipsishlm[nl]: do you want buff bars or icons? and what do you mean group buffs?
16:56.07Josh_Borkedeadlock: yes
16:56.10Ellipsisuh...
16:56.19Kemayodeadlock: Yes, they should be the same.
16:56.27Ellipsiswhy does that question not seem like one a linux user would ask? <_<;;
16:56.46Josh_Borkebecause it's not
16:56.48hlm[nl]Ellipsis: I just want it as the old versions of elkbuffbar
16:56.51deadlockI meant, the same, as do the same thing. I know i can run .sh files. -_-
16:57.01hlm[nl]Ellipsis: unfortunately that one is broken in the new patch
16:57.09Ellipsiswhat is?
16:57.14hlm[nl]the old elkbuffbar
16:57.20Ellipsishm
16:57.31Azuremhm... am i just to dumb, or is there no Option to disable that repair/whatever minimap-tracker thing?
16:57.44Ellipsisyou could try morganti's?
16:57.52Ellipsisnot sure if that's what you're looking for, but it might be somewhere to start
16:57.56hlm[nl]will give it a try :)
16:58.06noobuserAny way to know which version of .net framework running on my system ?
16:58.47KemayoAzurewrath: No option.  SimpleMinimap can hide it, though.
16:58.49hlm[nl]Ellipsis: that's not in the ace repository?
16:58.58Ellipsisindeed it's not
16:59.11SilowyiI need a tooltip mod that does only one thing
16:59.12EllipsisI don't know of any other buff bar addons hosted on wowace
16:59.24Ellipsisunless you count Quartz and its buff module
16:59.35hlm[nl]am running quartz
16:59.35Silowyisets the default tooltip to follow the mouse
16:59.56EllipsisSilowyi: LitheTooltipDoctor
16:59.58CIA-403hegarol * r54676 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua:
16:59.58CIA-4AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
16:59.58CIA-4- Missing quality adjustments
17:00.07SilowyiEllipsis on the wau?
17:00.16Ellipsislast I heard
17:00.23Silowyithx
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17:00.47CIA-403hegarol * r54677 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
17:00.47CIA-4AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
17:00.47CIA-4- Missing quality adjustments
17:01.37SilowyiI like how EBB makes the tracking thing display as a buff
17:01.41tinyboomCartas: link to mumble? :)
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17:01.58CartasSure thing, tinyboom.
17:01.58XuerianSilowyi: Agreed
17:02.04break19not I
17:02.21tinyboomCartas: nvm, found it on wowinterface :)
17:02.23CIA-403hegarol * r54678 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:
17:02.23CIA-4AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
17:02.23CIA-4- Bug fix
17:02.25CIA-403hegarol * r54679 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
17:02.25CIA-4AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
17:02.25CIA-4- cosmetic change
17:02.30CartasAh, yours loaded up before mine then, tinyboom! :D
17:02.35matt1sAnyone know if there is a bar mod that can do this: I have three visible bars with five slots in each. SHIFT+1 through SHIFT+3 selects BAR 1 through 3. Button '1' through '5' selects slot 1 through 5 on the selected bar. Normal paging. The hard part: When I press E the three bars are replaced by three new bars. They are still referenced with SHIFT+1 through SHIFT+3 as with normal paging, but a whole new set of bars.
17:03.09SilowyiTrinity should be able to handle that
17:03.21Silowyiyou can do some ridiculously complex things with it
17:03.37Azurewrathkey: mhm.. still using Squeenix.. :/
17:03.48AzurewrathKemayo i meant..
17:04.02CIA-403hegarol * r54680 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
17:04.02CIA-4AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
17:04.02CIA-4- bug fixed
17:04.06matt1sSilowyi: I'll check it out, thanks
17:04.30SilowyiTrinity has something of a stiff learning curve for configuration, but you can do almost anything with it.
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17:05.14Ellipsis~lart Industrial
17:05.14purlbeats Industrial severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken
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17:06.04matt1sSilowyi: I heard that the bars are protected now. I need to change sets of bars but still be able to reference the "relative" bars with the same keys
17:06.48VipermagicDoes anyone know if vBagnon is updated?
17:07.07break19combuctor ftw
17:09.05break19combuctor > vbagnon
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17:12.25kenlyricneeds more mod wars.
17:13.15break19kenlyric: i'm trying, but he aint bitin
17:13.57break19i know a surefire one that'll get people goin, but I aint goin there.. I'd be forcefully asked to leave and never return.. kickban :/
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17:15.03kenlyricarkinv just seems to take up a lot of space just to store inventory.
17:15.29break19I really do like combuctor.. its a tuller mod.. awesome stuff he does.
17:15.29matt1sSilowyi: I can't see from the documentation of TrinityBars that it's able to do what I need
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17:18.53QuantumDeltaAnyone any good with skinner? :<
17:19.26Saladinskinner is kinda crap, I think
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17:19.43SaladinIn my opinion*
17:20.01QuantumDeltaWell gimme some other view-port addon and I'll gladly swap
17:20.02GrumMEH! Skinner tries to skin the guildbank and does it wrong
17:20.05QuantumDeltathat's all I use it for
17:20.06Grumbut has no settings to turn skinning off
17:20.09Grumany ideas? :D
17:20.17QuantumDeltaYea that's basically what I'm trying to resolve.
17:20.26Grumoh lol
17:20.42Grumalso Autobar is broken O.o
17:20.53ulicdoesn't Skinner have .lua files for each frame it tries to skin, just delete/rename the file?
17:20.57break19grum, no its not
17:21.00NeoTrona shammy in a guild on the server claimed they killed illidan, wearing full t6
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17:21.15NeoTronironically they have only killed up to shade in BT and anetheron in hyjal prior to the patch...
17:21.16QuantumDelta*Goes to look for the lua file for the gbank*
17:21.21SaladinQuantumDelta: SunnArt
17:21.23GrumMessage: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\Core.lua line 43:   Cannot find a library instance of "LibStickyFrames-1.0".
17:21.25dalhiaAnyone has a few seconds time to explain me how to use Closetgnome_Itemrack (the import addon)
17:21.30SaladinSunnArt is a nice viewport
17:21.35break19Grum: then install libstickyframes
17:21.36Grumso he fucked up
17:21.42GrumWAU should do that itself
17:21.44QuantumDeltaThanks Saladin I'll kee it in mind
17:21.48Grumif he set the stuff up correctly
17:22.09durcynQuantumDelta: uh, Aperture if you just want a viewport
17:22.17durcyngradients are overrated!
17:22.20Grumreally? oeh nice
17:22.25ulicguess I'm wrong, that's only seperate lua files for addons not built-in stuff
17:22.28QuantumDeltahmm!
17:22.33QuantumDeltadon't care about gradients
17:22.34QuantumDelta;p
17:22.51Grumit has to have a list of which frames to affect ulic
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17:23.27ulicUIElements2.lua at the bottom, just comment that stuff out the stuff inside the function probably
17:23.29break19Grum: he *did* set it up right, but apparently wau isnt reading the toc file properly.. I show the lib as listed in X-Embeds in the toc, as it should be
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17:24.16Grumah well lets fix it manually then :)
17:24.34Grumthere is no 'GuildBankFrame' reference in whole of Skinner
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17:24.44Saladinoh and if you guys noticed, cartographer is slightly fuxxed
17:24.59durcynonly slightly.
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17:25.10Saladinit works like it's fullscreen even though it's not, at first it has a big black square around it
17:25.19durcynnope, you need to update.
17:25.26Saladinaha
17:25.29ulicGrum: I see one in UIElements2.lua, but I don't really know how skinner works, so I'm just guessing.
17:25.36HjalteOn life realms, is there a repair guy outside of ZA ?
17:25.39Hjaltelive*
17:25.43Grumhmm yeah
17:25.48Grumforgot to recurse my seaerch :)
17:25.55Grumi'll just hack it working O.o
17:26.22QuantumDeltaulic
17:26.25QuantumDeltamy laziness loves you
17:26.48durcynwoo, new version of perfectraid, it's like christmas.
17:26.52dalhialet me know if you hacked a version of skinner without that guild bank thing grum :)
17:26.58cladhairelol a bugfix is all
17:27.53NivFreak"We've decided to delay the Season 3 start date to November 27"
17:28.09dalhialink?
17:28.11FireAllianceNXI agree with durcyn
17:28.30NivFreakhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856015159&postId=29492013020&sid=1#0
17:28.42[Ammo]man 9 more days till my belt
17:28.42[Ammo]grrr
17:29.07kenlyric2.3.1 next week...
17:29.14dalhiacrap.. thanks
17:29.31NivFreak2.3.1 is basically today
17:29.32NivFreakhehe
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17:29.41NivFreakOMG FREE SHAMAN EPIX nerf
17:29.55kenlyrici thought those people got banned.
17:30.04NivFreakI doubt it
17:30.08kenlyricneed to.
17:30.14kenlyricthe ban for stupid twigs.
17:30.17kenlyric*they
17:30.34NivFreakeh, I think it's amusing
17:31.12thulany rogues here.. if so: what kind of energy-bar/combo points addon do you use? gonff?
17:31.54FireAllianceNXuh... pitbull's built-in? >.<
17:32.04rubikso was i the only one having problems with anything-melee last night everywhere i went?
17:32.13thulwell, I don't use the pitbull unit frames.. :-P
17:32.15ulicbefore Pitbull I used EnergyWatcher
17:32.17dalhiaSo noone has experience with Closetgnome_Itemrack?
17:32.19thulok
17:32.43FireAllianceNXdalhia: I just make new sets >.<
17:32.46dalhiabummer, I'll do it manually then, lazy me :P
17:32.48rubikis GCD broken on live version? it sure seemed like it to me?
17:33.02rubikbut others said it was fine for them
17:33.20FireAllianceNXI didn't have an issue in BM last night *whew*
17:33.23thulI miss gonff bar :-(
17:33.44Tsetse<PROTECTED>
17:33.59FireAllianceNXOkay, so I can't use Chaman2 with Bongos, any ideas for a different totem mod?
17:34.02Cartashttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1640594178&sid=1&pageNo=1
17:34.17kenlyricseriously old news
17:34.24FireAllianceNXyeah lol
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17:34.38CartasThought I'd post it instead of that horrible link.
17:34.41kenlyricpasted five minutes ago. keep up.
17:35.56CIA-403alar * r54682 10!AlarLib/ (AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua icon.tga): !AlarLib FrameAddLabel was not guessing the correct size for text fields
17:36.24CIA-403alar * r54683 10AlarArtRemover/icon.tga: AlarArtRemover Fubar icon missing
17:36.38Grumfor the stupid skinner guildbank skin: delete line 382 in AddonFrames.lua
17:36.46CIA-403alar * r54684 10AlarAutomation/icon.tga: AlarAutomation Fubar icon missing
17:37.00ulicFireAllianceNX: Enhancer
17:37.10FireAllianceNXoutdated :(
17:37.16Tornhoofyata
17:37.34CIA-403alar * r54685 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.lua: AlarBGHelper Fixed timers in AV and icon for Fubar
17:37.35FireAllianceNXdoes yata work with bongos?
17:37.50kenlyric?
17:37.54kenlyricnot related mods
17:38.10FireAllianceNXwell, I had Chaman2 and it got destroyed with Bongos
17:38.11kenlyricso, yes
17:38.20ulicoutdated? it's updated all the time.
17:38.32CIA-403alar * r54686 10AlarTTFrame/icon.tga: AlarTTFrame Missing icon for fubar
17:38.33FireAllianceNXuh ToC outdated according to WAU
17:38.40durcynjust because the toc doesn't say 20300 doesn't mean it's broken
17:38.47FireAllianceNXI know
17:38.48durcynit's only been a day.
17:38.49FireAllianceNXbut
17:38.52Tornhoofjust enable load outdated addons ;)
17:38.57FireAllianceNXI do that already >.>
17:39.04FireAllianceNXgimme a break
17:39.20ulicI run the game with "Load outdated" almost always, and very few problems.
17:39.24FireAllianceNXdidn't look at the last updated column
17:39.25hastejust because the TOC ays 20300 doesn't mean it's working << fixed
17:39.42Grumok meh that didn't work
17:39.46durcynalso true.
17:39.55Grumoh .. edited wrong dir
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17:40.09NightHawkTheSaneFireAllianceNX: gotwood works fine for totem timers.
17:40.10cncfanaticsyo peeps
17:41.22cncfanaticsare EU servers up ?
17:41.28FireAllianceNXdo any of them have a wiki/screenshot? is google crapping out on me?
17:42.16kenlyricso, why does wau have a backup option if the option doesn't work?
17:42.50CIA-403hedin * r54687 10MeleeFrame/MeleeFrame.toc: MeleeFrame: Update for Focused state
17:42.53CIA-403gagorian * r54688 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/FuBar_SoulJarFu.toc:
17:42.53CIA-4FuBar_SoulJarFu:
17:42.53CIA-4- TOC update for 2.3
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17:43.31kenlyricbah!
17:43.32CIA-403gagorian * r54689 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc:
17:43.32CIA-4DrDamage:
17:43.32CIA-4- TOC update for 2.3
17:43.34kenlyriccategories!@
17:43.42NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: to give you a false sense of security.
17:44.08kenlyricclass mods not listed under their class makes me want to judo-punch
17:44.15FireAllianceNXNightHawkTheSane: is GotWood just timers?
17:44.23Tornhoofyes
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17:44.26NightHawkTheSaneFireAllianceNX: yes
17:44.32FireAllianceNXthanks
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17:45.16FireAllianceNXI need a categorized by elements clickable + timer :P
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17:45.27thulah, gonff is actually working
17:45.27thul:-D
17:45.28thulgreat
17:45.46NightHawkTheSaneFireAllianceNX: I use two bongos bars for casting totems, personally
17:46.04Tornhooffirealliancenx, as i said totemus, yata whatever
17:46.12NightHawkTheSanemake them into a 4x6 block of bars, and it works rather nicely.
17:46.22FireAllianceNXI ran outta space even after I used bongos lol
17:46.25Tornhoofeh numen
17:46.42NightHawkTheSanewell, I don't put pointless totems on my bars ;)
17:46.50NightHawkTheSanelike, sentry, windwall, and ta. :P
17:46.52FireAllianceNXtotemus has too much stuff, so I guess Yata :)
17:47.06OzguliSweet. I might be able to use my whole UI tonight
17:47.10FireAllianceNXlol TA
17:47.26hyperChipmunkEllipsis: figure out what was going wrong in bulkmail?
17:47.34OzguliBtw did someone find a fix to the ugly "track ..." button on minimap?
17:47.35EllipsishyperChipmunk: not exactly
17:47.42CIA-403cncfanatics * r54690 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: TOC update
17:47.51CIA-403cncfanatics * r54691 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/FlexBar2_BuffDur.toc: FlexBar2_BuffDur: TOC update
17:47.51Ellipsisbest I can get from Expo is that RegisterAddRuleDewdrop() is doing all the evil memory hogging
17:47.57HotphoenixGagorian: could you add a haste rating for 1% gain in drdamage with the hit/crit/dmg ones?
17:48.01Ellipsisbut it's calling two other local functions which are likely the cause
17:48.04CIA-403cncfanatics * r54692 10FlexBar2_ComboPoints/FlexBar2_ComboPoints.toc: FlexBar2_ComboPoints: TOC update
17:48.22cncfanaticsHotphoenix, how would u do that ? haste only affects autoattack
17:48.23NightHawkTheSaneOzguli: looks like SMM got an update related to that.
17:48.23hyperChipmunkok, i'll look into it
17:48.26CIA-403cncfanatics * r54693 10FlexBar2_DreamLayout/FlexBar2_DreamLayout.toc: FlexBar2_DreamLayout: TOC update
17:48.29Hotphoenixspells :)
17:48.32Ozgulioh great
17:48.36cncfanaticsah spells
17:48.41Ozguliso I don't have to install anything new
17:48.43NightHawkTheSaneOzguli: havn't been able to test it as realms are still down for lawlz-we-made-t6-resto-gear-free fixes
17:48.52cncfanaticsanyone have a fast mirrot to 2.3 ?
17:48.55cncfanatics90kb/s sucks
17:48.58cncfanatics(EU)
17:49.06OzguliI heard people were disenchanting them on some realms :P
17:49.07FireAllianceNXwow... Yata looks a little like ArchiTotem, if anyone remembers that ^^
17:49.11NightHawkTheSaneindeed
17:49.18Hotphoenixits a nice way of comparing dmg/hit/crit/haste if you do
17:49.26|Stan|cncfanatics: http://apeboys.com/pub/patches/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-2.3.0.7561-enGB-patch.zip ?
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17:50.00cncfanaticsty |Stan|
17:50.04GagorianHotphoenix: Well, haste is more obvious than the rest
17:50.22GagorianBut I could add it I guess
17:51.07cncfanaticsthat sped up nicely
17:51.09cncfanaticscheers
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17:51.22[Ammo]downloading keyloggers from random sites ftw
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17:51.32[Ammo](not saying this one is)
17:51.39GagorianHotphoenix: Well, it will always basically be 15.76 except if GCD caps it or so
17:51.40hyperChipmunkEllipsis: i wonder if that might be due to the change in the AH cats; I haven't looked at the change other than confirming that they worked.  I was happy that my code adapted to them without a hitch >8)
17:51.54ToadkillerGrum: are you running with external libraries?  If so why would you expect AutoBar to be able to fix that for you?
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17:52.03cncfanaticsGagorian, GCD does cap it
17:52.05EllipsisI'm sorry, but 1MiB of unexplained memory usage is a bit of a hitch imo ;)
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17:52.11cncfanaticsso it'd have no effect on scorch for example
17:52.14GrumToadkiller: update addon in WAU should fix it
17:52.16hyperChipmunkit is
17:52.18Gagoriancncfanatics: I know, that's what I said :D
17:52.23Grumbut seems WAU is being an asshat
17:52.29kadrahilQ Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q
17:52.32Ellipsisfrom a quick glance at your code, I figured it had to be something about the category changes
17:52.33kadrahil^ is what i'm doing right now
17:52.39kadrahilcause i'm on my 2 hour lunch break and i can't play wow :(
17:52.40hyperChipmunkwe have our top rodents working on it
17:52.51NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: read a book.
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17:53.01NightHawkTheSaneor, hey, it's november.. write a book!
17:53.02kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: what are those??
17:53.09kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: you mean, like torment of the worgen??
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17:53.53FireAllianceNXuh wrath of the titans please.
17:54.07cncfanaticscan one setup wget to download one file from multiple locations ?
17:54.13kadrahili have to run kara thursday night :(
17:54.16NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: thats scarily pathetic of you
17:54.22kadrahilthat will cut into my honor grind, ftl
17:54.30kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: haha :P
17:54.45kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: i actually have a couple of programming assignments i think i'll get started on early (for once)
17:56.15kadrahilwhy the CRAP do they have to schedule AV weekend EVER FREAKING TIME i've got plans, or will be out of town, or unable to play otherwise
17:56.25Toadkilleroh what t6 resto gear free?
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17:56.33kadrahil"every"
17:56.54NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: well, resto-shammy gear.
17:56.54CIA-403nimbal * r54694 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2_Button.lua:
17:56.55CIA-4Buffalo2:
17:56.55CIA-4* Fixed an error when GetDurationString returns nil
17:57.07NightHawkTheSanebut presumably that will be fixed during the current maintenence.
17:57.09kenlyrickadrahil: um
17:57.16kenlyricit's not like it's a surprise when AV weekend will be
17:57.25ToadkillerMan I hope they dont fix free 20 slot bags for alts
17:57.40kenlyricToadkiller: wait, want?!
17:57.51ToadkillerYou heard me
17:57.53kenlyricza bags not soulbound?
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17:58.08ToadkillerSure are as soon as u run in & get one
17:58.13NightHawkTheSaneI think he means just the trivial nature of taking an alt in and getting one
17:58.24Fisker-~seen nymbia
17:58.26purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-136-127.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 37m 38s ago, saying: 'rofl'.
17:58.29kadrahilkenlyric: i know
17:58.34NightHawkTheSanewhat with a) no keying requirement, and b) it coming from an item and not a boss.
17:58.46kadrahilkenlyric: it just sucks that it always falls on a bad weekend for me :(
17:59.07ToadkillerIF they fix that ima cry, I was too tired to run em in last night...
17:59.28EllipsisWTB fisheye =[
17:59.45|Stan|Ellipsis: mhm :(
17:59.45kenlyricwell, my horde could do it pretty easily, but the allaince would just be pain.
17:59.49ulic10000g
18:00.00ulicoh wait I only have murloc eyes
18:00.28FireAllianceNXsurely it has a level requirement at least...?
18:00.52kenlyrichmmm... grind honored with consortium, or gather 24 knothide leather.
18:01.06kenlyricI wonder which I'll choose
18:01.21Ozguligathering doesn't sound so painful
18:01.53kenlyricthey should have at least made the 20 slot bag like 14% speed increase.
18:02.14kenlyrichonestly I really should get honored with consortium so I can get 3 green gems instead of 2.
18:02.16Ellipsishonored with consortium isn't much of a "grind"
18:02.56OzguliI'm not a JC, nor don't have even exalted
18:03.02ToadkillerMmm, another hour of forced coding b4 i can test.  What should I work on I wonder?
18:03.05Ozgulidon't feel like bothering for 1.6g each week
18:03.23kenlyricok that's lame.
18:03.24EllipsisI accidentally got exalted >_>
18:03.29|Stan|Toadkiller: what have you done already?
18:03.33kenlyricwhy is the quiver harder to make than the pouch.
18:03.41ToadkillerALready converted to PT3.1
18:03.51hyperChipmunkonly diff is 99 feathers i think
18:03.57kenlyricEllipsis: turns out if you just do the quests in nagrand, you come in about 2000 short of honored.
18:03.58ToadkillerI thiunk, needs testing obviously
18:03.58hyperChipmunkbut go to darkshore and slaughter moonkin
18:04.06kenlyrichyperChipmunk: talking about the 20 slotters.
18:04.22ToadkillerI guess I should work on CUstom buttons & then custom bars
18:04.23kenlyricwhich are both equally easy except the random arrokoa feathers added to the quiver.
18:04.27kenlyricnow I gotta kill birds
18:04.32Ellipsisoh noes
18:04.34Ellipsisnot teh birds
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18:04.50kenlyric24 slot is teehee.
18:04.51ToadkillerScrew the birds, I been stockpiling feather for a LOOOONG time now
18:04.53kenlyricno speed increase, kthx
18:05.04Ellipsiscan't you just buy the feathers on AH? they tend to be cheap since everyone just sells them as soon as they realize they can't use them for rep anymore
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18:05.39kenlyricsensible cat is sensible
18:05.50hyperChipmunk...until they're suddenly needed for quivers
18:05.58kenlyrici probably have stacks in my bank
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18:06.08Ellipsisuntil now I did not even know there was a new quiver recipe that used them
18:06.23EllipsisI've been vendoring mine
18:06.25Ellipsis>_>
18:06.31kenlyricthat's because everyone is focused on the 24 slots.
18:06.35Toadkiller~seen Nymbia
18:06.37purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-136-127.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 45m 49s ago, saying: 'rofl'.
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18:07.21|Stan|Toadkiller: is that Trinket1 & Trinket2 thing working?
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18:07.44ToadkillerNo, but I dont want to dry code that either...
18:07.57|Stan|kk
18:08.20ToadkillerI think the custom buttons & bars would be the biggest bang for the buck right now.  bbl
18:09.09|Stan|have fun :)
18:10.14kenlyricfor a primal nether should get some more firing speed.
18:10.38kenlyricor some hit or crit or something.
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18:14.39kadrahil!ar 800
18:14.39ThraeBotkadrahil: Arena rating from 800 points is, 2v2: 1892, 3v3: 1857, 5v5: 1826
18:15.04kadrahil!ar 400
18:15.04ThraeBotkadrahil: Arena rating from 400 points is, 2v2: 1616, 3v3: 1580, 5v5: 1549
18:15.34kadrahilso unless i can find a 1800+ team to join before next week, worst case is 2 weeks to my s3 axe
18:16.42GrumWTFPWN for Rock btw, all those stupid users wanking about their talentspec being send over and now seeing that is a default game feature ..
18:17.02NightHawkTheSaneGrum: way to completely miss the point.
18:17.50Grumnot really
18:18.04NightHawkTheSaneyes. really. no one, ever, even once, had a problem with it actually sending talent info.
18:18.04Grumall the whining that it was in rock and now its in the default client
18:18.08CIA-403pettigrow * r54695 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: frFR Update
18:18.14NightHawkTheSaneit was how it did it that people got annoyed abut./
18:18.17NightHawkTheSaneabout*
18:18.21Grumhow?
18:18.25Grumthe implementation 'how' ?
18:18.37Ellipsisoh my gawd, are we still not over this discussion
18:18.39Grum'it was done inefficiently'-how?
18:18.51Grumhehe we are Ellipsis, its default in the gameclient now :)
18:19.09GrumNightHawkTheSane: what 'how' are you talking about?
18:19.09Ellipsisand yet, you're discussing it
18:19.11NightHawkTheSaneGrum: "how" as in "hidden in a library with little/no advertisment as to it's addition and no way of disabling it without editing code"
18:19.24Ellipsisand pestering NHTS to discuss it as well...
18:19.27GrumNightHawkTheSane: exactly as it is in the wowclient now :P
18:19.40Kalman|Grum: It isn't hidden now.
18:19.47Kalman|That's the difference, end of discussion.
18:19.56Grumif you can see it its not hidden
18:19.59NightHawkTheSaneGrum: except, the difference is one's blizzard code tht you MUST use (and in no way hidden), and the other is optional code.
18:20.05Grumyou could see it otherwise people couldn't have whined =D
18:20.24Kalman|Now you're just trolling.
18:20.28Grumso blizzard implemented it as it was meant to happen with Rock, everyone using it :)
18:20.29NightHawkTheSaneseriously.
18:20.53NightHawkTheSaneyeah, you're just going to be an idiotic troll, I'm not having this discussion.
18:20.55Ellipsisgonna have to agree with Kalman| on this one
18:21.23Grumpartly trolling, but its so fun to see that so many people whined about it
18:21.35Ellipsishave your fun somewhere else
18:21.39Grum(and dont whine now - because they have nothing to say about it anymore :D)
18:21.43Ellipsisthis channel doesn't appreciate trolling :P
18:22.12FireAllianceNXsoooooooo servers up yet?
18:22.17Grumunless the channel trolls Ellipsis =D
18:22.27Ellipsistrolling me is always encouraged
18:22.29PlagousFireAllianceNX: no..
18:22.32GrumChannel VS Rock is allowed, person VS channel is not allowed :)
18:22.40Ellipsisbecause some people feel it increases the chance that I will post nude pics
18:22.50FireAllianceNXlol
18:22.53Grumman i'm not trolling then
18:23.03Grumi'd love to keep my corneas in 1 piece
18:23.07EllipsisZhinjio: whatcha need help with?
18:23.11EllipsisGrum: ouch, very ouch =[
18:23.11Zhinjioheheheheee.
18:23.14NightHawkTheSaneGrum: on that, i can agree.
18:23.22Zhinjiojust breaking the ice. trying to lighten the mood a bit.
18:23.38FireAllianceNXwtb slushies.
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18:23.47ZhinjioI like milk.
18:23.49GrumEllipsis: the only thing you cna do is posting those pics and ask me gently to look at it .. and then i might risk it
18:23.52EllipsisI hate milk
18:23.55Ellipsisit's disgusting
18:24.04FireAllianceNXI'm lactose
18:24.09Plagousexpires too fast imo
18:24.12FireAllianceNXstupid enter key...
18:24.23Zhinjiosee, thats better.
18:24.42Grummmmm
18:24.43GrumMessage: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\AutoBarClassBar.lua line 128:   attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
18:24.44Zhinjiomore love, less milk.
18:25.00Grumanyone having that 'error' ? :D
18:25.00FireAllianceNXhmm lunch or haircut
18:25.15CIA-403haarm * r54696 10Aperture/Aperture.toc:
18:25.15CIA-4Aperture:
18:25.15CIA-4- 2.3 apparently :x
18:25.16EllipsisGrum: I'm having the 'error' that you 'fail' at 'life'
18:25.30Grumat least i have a life
18:25.30Zhinjioso I want to throw some sort of dark rusty metal texture in the background of my UI. Anyone know of a nice, high res texture so I don't have to create my own again?
18:25.34Ellipsisoh snap =[
18:25.37Grumyou fail at having it
18:25.45Grumi so pwn you Ellipsis ;D
18:25.59EllipsisI see what you did there
18:26.02Grumk the second you pwn me, you have to send that pics :D
18:26.19Ellipsiswouldn't want to pwn your eyesight too
18:26.39Grumi'll use those 'look at the eclipse' glasses and a welding mask
18:26.50Grumand i'll stand 100ft from my screen
18:27.12Ominoushmm how do you get the new tracking button to show with simpleminimap?
18:27.35Kivinthe tracking button is visible on my simpleminimap
18:28.11ulicmine too, maybe another addon you have hiding it Ominous, EBB maybe?
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18:28.30Ominousulic: ah thanks :)
18:28.58CIA-403toadkiller * r54697 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (5 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:28.58CIA-4LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
18:28.58CIA-4-- Moved the mining for trinkets & StartsQuest over from PeriodicTable-3.0
18:28.58CIA-4-- 34478 Tiny Spore Bat
18:28.58CIA-4-- 34062 Mana biscuits
18:28.59CIA-4-- 34060, 34061 Engineer Mounts
18:29.01CIA-4-- 33934 Crystal Healing Potion, 33935 Crystal Mana Potion
18:29.34RaydenUniaw man
18:29.37RaydenUnidestromath is offline
18:29.39ZhinjioToadkiller: have you considered adding all the new tracking nonsense to AB's track category?
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18:29.52RaydenUnilooks like a lot of servers are down
18:29.54ToadkillerZhinjio: Its not in there?
18:30.03EllipsisRaydenUni: l2read, 2 hour maintenance
18:30.15Zhinjiowell, I updated about 4 hours ago, and when I was setting things up, it wasn't showing them.
18:30.19Ellipsisfortunately for you, there's only 30mins left
18:30.56ToadkillerZhinjio: mmm, I thought I already added them all.  You may want to trace your localization though in babble spell 3.0
18:31.03RaydenUnii want that weapon that the troll in the wowo startup thing has
18:31.18Zhinjiohmm.
18:31.27Zhinjioonce things come back up I'll check again.
18:31.35ZhinjioI think I updated babble as well.
18:31.36NivFreakhrmm, I need to figure out how gemming for spirit vs mp5 compares on my priest now
18:31.47RaydenUniNivFreak there are some blogs on it
18:31.54RaydenUnifrom what i read it depends on your playstyle
18:32.24NivFreakyea, I'm just wondering where the cutoff is
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18:32.39NivFreakI've heard if you're 85% in the FSR, 4 spirit = 1mp5
18:32.42RaydenUniegotistical priest and priestly endeavours have posts on it
18:32.45NivFreakbut I need to do the math
18:32.57RaydenUniendeavours goes into theory craft a lot
18:33.02NivFreakI was gonna check EJ
18:33.03NivFreaklink?
18:33.16AeyanAs a shadow priest, I have but one god and they are called +dmg
18:33.19AeyanHehe
18:33.31RaydenUnihttp://egotisticalpriest.omen-guild.net/
18:33.33RaydenUnihttp://priestlyendeavors.wordpress.com/
18:33.42RaydenUniyeah Aeyan
18:33.46NivFreakthe idea of not having to chug pots as a shadow priest would be nice ;)
18:33.55RaydenUnishadow priests didn't really get affected at all in this patch
18:33.56NivFreakbut I would never gem spirit on a spriest
18:33.58AeyanMeh, you still do it
18:34.06RaydenUnii guess it's nice that we get 30% mana regen in combat as opposed to 15%
18:34.06evlMerchantItemButton_OnClick("LeftButton") don't work anymore :(
18:34.10Ellipsisuh
18:34.16Ellipsisshadow priests didn't get affected at all?
18:34.24RaydenUniwhat changed for shadow priests?
18:34.24Ellipsishave you *tried* casting any spells since patch?
18:34.28RaydenUniwe got fear ward but meh
18:34.32*** part/#wowace Slax (n=pablo@103.160.broadband3.iol.cz)
18:34.38RaydenUniexplain Ellipsis
18:35.00Ellipsisthe casting change that was supposed to eliminate the need for Quartz + /stopcasting macros
18:35.03AeyanI assume she's talking about the stopcasting changes
18:35.06Ellipsishas completely screwed up the GCD
18:35.13RaydenUnibut that's not shadow priest specific
18:35.18Ellipsisno, but it still affects you
18:35.22AeyanAnyway
18:35.23Ellipsisand more heavily than most
18:35.32Ellipsisit's like rogues > locks > spriests > other casters
18:35.35AeyanI play a human, so the night elf racials thing rather pissed me off
18:35.38Ellipsisin terms of feeling the pain
18:35.47AeyanBut I'm sorta used to that by now =P
18:35.55Shirik|Ecoleoh give me a break
18:35.59Shirik|Ecolehumans have some of the best racials in the game
18:36.10AeyanFear my mighty feedback
18:36.14Shirik|Ecolenative increase to spirit?
18:36.17Shirik|Ecoledesparate prayer?
18:36.36AeyanDesperate prayer DID actually get a major buff in 2.3, but not directly
18:36.46Shirik|Ecoledid it? What happened?
18:36.51AeyanNow that coming out of shadowform doesn't trigger the GCD, it's much more effective for me
18:36.59Shirik|Ecoleah is it holy?
18:37.05AeyanOf course
18:37.15Shirik|Ecolethat'll teach you not to be a shadow priest :D
18:37.23AeyanToo true
18:37.24FireAllianceNXah, forgot to train Chastise last night damnit
18:37.28AeyanUndead or nil, right?
18:37.33Shirik|Ecoleblood elf ftw
18:37.38AeyanBahaha
18:37.50AeyanI do feel sorry for blood elf priests
18:37.52CIA-403Leialyn * r54698 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Babble-Zone: deDE update
18:37.54AeyanThey get it worse than I
18:38.00Shirik|EcoleI actually don't think they're bad
18:38.07AeyanNight elf were sort of kindred
18:38.09Shirik|Ecoleand hell I'm outhealing people so I don't care
18:38.16AeyanTheir racials sucked but had limited use as shadow
18:38.24Chomperscrazy, we're the only guild in ssc tonight
18:38.29AeyanStarshards could be cast in shadowform if you happened to get silenced
18:38.31Chompersdamn za
18:38.59AeyanBut a instant mana free dot and 20% melee/range avoidance? Man...
18:39.04kenlyricstarshards was great for killing runaway rogues.
18:39.12kenlyricthe scaling damage always took them by surprise.
18:39.20RaydenUniscaling dmg is gone now
18:39.25kenlyrici know :/
18:39.28Aeyan88% coefficient on the new thing too
18:39.34RaydenUnii need a mining bag
18:39.49RaydenUnilame
18:39.55RaydenUnithe wow reputation page is now part of the nihilum site
18:40.10Pkekyowell 2.3 had my addons go tits up...oh, and also: blizz are cunts
18:40.28AeyanI came out of 2.3 with minimal damage
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18:40.40RaydenUnii didn't see any mods broken by 2.3 except my dungeon maps
18:40.52AeyanHad the cartographer error, but commented out the mod-shattering line before I logged in
18:41.14KivinMy bartender is acting really weird, it's got all sorts of hard to preproduce bugs =X
18:41.51nevcairielwhat bugs?
18:42.05PkekyoAeyan: does cartographer break mods?
18:42.09*** join/#wowace xyu (n=blahblah@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
18:42.15KivinMost notable is by changing profiles, occasionally i get about two bars worth of buttons anchored to my screen which don't belong to any bars
18:42.21KivinThe only way to get rid of them is a /reload
18:42.22AeyanIt broke itself, that's a mod
18:42.24AeyanOtherwise, no
18:42.35Pkekyohmm
18:42.40Pkekyofixed now or still broken?
18:42.42EllipsisPkekyo: less IRC, more Crysis imo :P
18:42.43AeyanAt least none of mine
18:42.45AeyanFixed now
18:42.48Choumarinexit
18:42.57Ellipsisfail XD
18:43.00PkekyoEllipsis: going ZA, time to update addons :)
18:43.00KivinAnd by changing my cyCircled skin, my bartender button spacing gets all borked, and requires a /reload too
18:43.01AeyanHehe
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18:43.10PkekyoPitBull safe for update?
18:43.23AeyanPitBull is working fine for me
18:43.23RaydenUnii didn't have any problems with it last night
18:43.36KivinMy PitBull is working perfectly fine.  Which is kinda creepy
18:43.42Pkekyoalso: rumors has it autobar went FUBAR?
18:44.33SaladinSeason 3 has been postponed guise
18:44.36Pkekyoalso: boys and girls...need a cooldown timer skinnable with SharedMedia...which one to grab?
18:44.42SaladinI repeat
18:44.43PkekyoSaladin: source?
18:44.44KivinNevcairiel, would you like a screenshot next time I manage to reproduce the bug with the extra buttons?
18:44.44SaladinSeason 3 has been postponed guise
18:44.45Saladin-.-
18:44.47RaydenUniwoah zepellins now have vendors?
18:44.54PkekyoI repeat: Saladin: source?
18:44.55Saladinblizz forums
18:45.00Pkekyolinkage?
18:45.02Saladinthey postponed a week, 2 sec lemme get link
18:45.04Ellipsis27th
18:45.04FireAllianceNXWelcome to 30 minutes ago
18:45.06FireAllianceNXlol
18:45.21|Stan|Ventrilo 3.0 is out :O
18:45.31Chompersguyz
18:45.34PkekyoI was in Crysis 30 minutes ago, so shut your trap FireAllianceNX! I have valid reasons
18:45.36FireAllianceNXhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856015181&postId=29492013186&sid=1#0
18:45.52KaeltenI was pinged at some point
18:45.52Saladinthat would be it
18:45.53PkekyoI say again: blizzard are absolute fucking cunts
18:45.55FireAllianceNXwow, hostile.
18:46.02nevcairielKivin; dont change profiles all the time, its bugged =P
18:46.08Kivin:O
18:46.21KivinAny super relative ETA on when that'll be fixed?
18:46.48nevcairielno
18:46.53KivinOki
18:47.10nevcairielwhy would you want to change the profile anyway?
18:47.16KaeltenPkekyo: be nice :P
18:47.18KivinDifferent bars for different things
18:47.23KivinPVP, Raiding
18:47.29PkekyoKaelten: I will when Blizzard will...
18:47.35Kaeltenwhat did they do?
18:48.00Pkekyohmm, let me find that all-time list of warrior nerfs, eh? :p
18:48.14Kivin*rolls eyes*
18:48.27kenlyricis it one of those awesome lists which doesn't show any of the buffs?
18:48.34Pkekyomeh, just pissed off blizz screwed up my specc and I have to bloody pay 50g to change it....and that the sods postponed s3
18:48.34kenlyricor doesn't show them in relative scale?
18:48.35Pkekyokenlyric: yes it is
18:48.53kenlyriclike the "hahaha shadow priests got 1 buff and 10,000 nerfs" posts.
18:48.55EllipsisKaelten: can has fisheye :(
18:48.56kenlyricexcept the 1 buff was fucking gigantichuge
18:49.01CIA-403stalake * r54699 10Baggins_BtmScan/Baggins_BtmScan.toc: Baggins_BtmScan: Updated TOC, no testing performed
18:49.22Aeyankenlyric, which one?
18:49.22Pkekyowarriors haven't seen so many 'fucking gigantichuge' buffs tbh
18:49.43kenlyricAeyan: 2.0.1 basically.
18:49.45Pkekyothey usually tear off one arm and both legs on us and gives us a bandaid and one wooden leg
18:49.49KaeltenEllipsis:  files.wowace.com is eating our resources
18:49.55Ellipsisbah =[
18:49.58Kaeltenaverage (5s sliding average)
18:49.59KaeltenRequests180 req/s
18:49.59KaeltenTraffic33.01 Mbyte/s
18:50.04Ellipsiswhy was fisheye dying before patch day then?
18:50.04Kivin10 mins till servers are due to go up.. we should get the "so sorry, we're going to need 2 more hours" message by now
18:50.16kenlyricdead fish!
18:50.18AeyanWell, the new talent trees were quite nice for shadow
18:50.27Saroz"Interface action failed because of an addon" -.-
18:50.30Pkekyoanyone here know the addons CooldownCount or CoolDown?
18:50.31CIA-403stalake * r54700 10GearEvaluator/GearEvaluator.toc: GearEvaluator: Updated TOC, no testing performed
18:50.31kenlyricif I hit "re-install all addons" more will that help fisheye?
18:50.37EllipsisSaroz: lucky you, you get to try out the new taint log!!!
18:50.40RaydenUni<Aeyan> Well, the new talent trees were quite nice for shadow <-- when was this?
18:50.45SarozEllipsis :p
18:50.50AeyanTBC talent trees
18:51.06RaydenUnioh yeah
18:51.09kenlyricshadow priests were made *amazing* in 2.0.1 then have been gradually nerfed down every single patch.
18:51.21RaydenUnii don't remember much about the shadow talent tree before TBC. didn't worry about it as much
18:51.23kenlyricshow if you compare the raw number of buffs and nerfs, it looks much worse than it is.
18:51.41RaydenUnino one seems to be unhappy with out current status though
18:51.42Pkekyokenlyricshadow priests were made *amazing* in 2.0.1 then have been gradually nerfed down every single patch. <--- welcome to the life as a warrior?
18:51.45AeyanThat was before the VE nerf, the shadow weaving nerf, etc etc
18:51.56kenlyricPkekyo: it's the life of every class.
18:51.59RaydenUnii remember the VE nerf, that made me sad
18:52.04AeyanYeah...
18:52.10RaydenUnipaladins have been nerfed?
18:52.12AeyanWarriors are doing pretty well right now, all things considered
18:52.22KivinNo matter what class a person plays, they're going to convince themselves that they're getting the shitty end of the deal vs other classes
18:52.42AeyanThough, the talent swap doesn't make logical sense
18:52.43Pkekyowarriors were perfectly_bloody_fine until 2.3 hit...
18:52.54RaydenUnireally, i don't have any problems with my shadow priest right now, other than i wish i had some sort of aoe, but that's trivial
18:53.01KivinLet me tell you a little secret about 2.4, 2.5, and 2.6 (if they make it that far before Lich King): Classes are going to get adjusted.  Some will get buffs.  Others will get nerfs.  It's life.  Live with it.
18:53.13PkekyoAeyan: indeed...NOONE wanted it...we had it forced upon us, and we have to pay 50g to fix our bloody speccs
18:53.15kenlyricKivin: shock of shocks.
18:53.19Kaeltenfisheye may be choking on the size of our repo :(
18:53.25RaydenUniif blizzard could make all classes perfeclty balanced, people would still complain
18:53.34RaydenUniand things would get boring because it would never change
18:53.41kenlyricthey didn't give you those five points back?
18:53.53kenlyricthey gave shammies their point back.
18:54.00KivinMy shaman had 1 free point waiting... the one that used to purchase 2 handed proficiency
18:54.07EllipsisKaelten: is that what was causing it to garble its source, too?
18:54.16Kaeltenwho knows
18:54.18RaydenUniyou guys got talent points back in 2.3? that's cool
18:54.19Ellipsis=[
18:54.20AeyanThey didn't refund warriors or paladins
18:54.22KaeltenI'm trying to keep curse.com up too
18:54.22kenlyricKaelten: ever considered purging some of it?
18:54.23Kivin1 point...
18:54.50kenlyricKivin: I ended up taking the replacement talent anyway
18:54.51Pkekyoyou got talentpoint back in 2.3?! LUCKY SODS
18:55.18Kivinken, so did i, but i had to waste 50g to get 3/3 whatever the new talent was
18:55.32Pkekyoblizz turned the bloody warrior talent trees upside down, and we didn't get a single bloody point refunded...paladins got a bloody revamp, and didn't get refunded a single TP either...BOLLOCKS
18:55.33kenlyricumm.
18:55.37kenlyrici'm talking about shamans.
18:55.43KivinSo am I, chief
18:55.44kenlyricit's only a 1 point talent
18:55.56Kivin3/3 Talent right down at the bottom, AP->SD conversion
18:56.06Shirik|EcolePkekyo: psh
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18:56.09Shirik|EcoleI respecced too I paid for it
18:56.18kenlyricthat's not the replacement talent.
18:56.20Shirik|Ecolequit yo whinin
18:56.44KivinJust because it's the new renter of that plot of land on my talent tree doesn't make it an old talent...
18:57.50kenlyricI'm pretty sure i used the word "replacement"
18:57.59Ellipsisbah, official forums are failing
18:58.03xerawxi'm gonna play me some lolgate london
18:58.10CIA-403toadkiller * r54701 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
18:58.10CIA-4LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
18:58.10CIA-4- Move Jeweler.Statue & Mage.Mana Stone
18:58.10CIA-4- Pick up remaining consumable changes from 3.0
18:58.15Ellipsismust be getting hammered with "OMG WAT MIDDAY DOWNTIME?!?!"
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18:58.32NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: official forums always fail, in some way or another.
18:58.43KivinJust the usual "OMG I TOOK MY DAY OFF AND ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS PLAY WOW"
18:58.53Fisker-ok
18:58.57Fisker-what addon checks who has loot?
18:58.58Fisker-and how?
18:59.00Ellipsisno addon
18:59.02Ellipsisdefault UI
18:59.04PkekyoShirik|Ecole: so because YOU blew 50g on something that's complete arsebollocks, it's all fine and dandy for everyone?
18:59.08Ellipsiswelcome to 2.3, Fisker-
18:59.11Shirik|Ecole15 actually :P
18:59.21Fisker-never saw that in default ui
18:59.36AeyanYesterday it is
18:59.59AeyanAnd buff/debuff highlights around spells
19:00.00EllipsisFisker-: that's because it's new in 2.3
19:00.02AeyanThat was sorta neat
19:00.16Fisker-and i mean i never saw it on the pter
19:00.17Fisker-ptr
19:00.33|Stan|petr
19:00.37|Stan|peter
19:00.48kenlyriccrack
19:00.49Kivin11AM PST and servers aren't up =X
19:00.57Khreasilyasigh
19:01.02Pkekyoso they postponed s3 because the date is CLOSE TO thanksbloodygiving?
19:01.03kenlyricpost it on the forums
19:01.06KivinWaiting for them to say "two more hours"
19:01.18kenlyricPkekyo: you're just an angry little fellow.
19:01.21EllipsisKivin: actually, it's 11:01. Blizz is really being unfair to us!
19:01.33kenlyricthey're postponing it because 2.3.1 is next week, of course.
19:01.39Khreasilyalol
19:01.42Ellipsiss/next week/tomorrow/
19:01.48Pkekyokenlyric: yes, yes I am
19:01.53kenlyricthen 2.3.2
19:01.53Pkekyonot all that little though
19:01.57ToadkillerIf this patch takes any longer I am going to quit WOW!
19:02.06NightHawkTheSanethey're postponing s3, because blizzard hates you personally.
19:02.10Shirik|Ecoleyup
19:02.14Shirik|Ecolethey're trying to get you to quit
19:02.19KivinD::::
19:02.20kenlyricwow is a great game when you don't play it on a schedule.
19:02.27kenlyrici.e., when it's not like a job.
19:02.28Kivinlol
19:02.36Ellipsisit's not a job, for me
19:02.37Toadkiller& im gonna get all my friends to quit, & then see them crying in their beer when they dont get our money!
19:02.41kenlyricit's just like TV. TV is much better when you don't have to schedule it.
19:02.42Ellipsisit's my life
19:02.42Ellipsis=[
19:02.44Khreasilyawhat's a job?
19:03.06Ellipsisa job is what people do all day that keeps them from running 5mans
19:03.11NightHawkTheSanea job is what lets me afford the for lcd monitors surrounding me.
19:03.11Ellipsiswhich is why your groups always suck
19:03.13kenlyricyeah.
19:03.17NightHawkTheSanes/for/four/
19:03.25NightHawkTheSaneDamimt
19:03.26kenlyriclol
19:03.27NightHawkTheSanedammit purl.
19:03.31xerawxi'm gonna play lolgate london and pretend it was worth the $50, that is if it even works after this update
19:03.31kenlyricgogo regex
19:03.41NightHawkTheSanepurl, you suck like kenlyric's mom.
19:03.55Khreasilyacan i ask a quick ui question? :D
19:03.57Ellipsishow did purl screw that one up?
19:03.58kenlyricnope
19:04.01kenlyrici mean yes
19:04.08Ellipsisoh, I see, affourd
19:04.11Ellipsishaha, that's kinda funny
19:04.13xerawx~asktoask
19:04.13purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
19:04.25Khreasilyaui art such as x-art/ sunn art/ etc.   how would i do a search for other mods?
19:04.36Khreasilyai just can't seem to figure out how to term the searches >.<
19:05.14Ellipsisoops
19:05.40EllipsisI just realized I left pop tarts sitting on our network hub for like 5 hours
19:05.42Ellipsisto warm :(
19:05.51Plagousnice
19:05.54NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: network hubs are NOT toasters. ;)
19:05.57EllipsisI forgot I had them here...
19:06.02KivinThey can be...
19:06.07Ellipsisyes but it's so much more convenient to set them there to warm
19:06.12CIA-403jerry 072.3 * r54702 10Talented/Talented/ (inspectui.lua tips.lua): Talented: (2.3 branch) final adjustments before release
19:06.19Ellipsisbecause they're within reach when I want them
19:06.26NightHawkTheSanewhat kind of hubs do you have that get warm, anyway?
19:06.33NightHawkTheSanemy router's cold to the touch
19:06.53Ellipsisa netgear gigabit switch with 4 active connections?
19:09.14*** join/#wowace krka (n=krka@c83-250-42-60.bredband.comhem.se)
19:09.17ZhinjioI guess giving a rusted metal a brushed texture is kind of silly
19:09.52Kivinsigh... if blizzard doesn't get their servers up this instance, i'm going to cancel my account... and thirty of my friends will, too!
19:10.04Kivins/instance/instant
19:10.14durcyndon't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
19:10.41PkekyoUS servers down?
19:10.53KivinYes =/
19:11.05|Stan|hrhr
19:11.11NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: *shrug* my linksys has 4 active connections, it's fine. :P
19:11.19Ellipsisyes but it's a linksys
19:11.31Pkekyoweren't US servers supposed to be up...err...yesterday?
19:11.39Kivinyes...
19:11.39Ellipsisand assuming it's one of the standard black'n'blue linksys models, it's got better airflow than this one
19:11.44Kivinthey went down two hours ago
19:11.53Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/images/rustmetal.png
19:11.55Kivinand were supposed to be back up twelve minutes ago
19:12.02Khreasilya"emergency maintenance"
19:12.02Zhinjiowhat do I need to do to this. it doesn't look right
19:12.07Ellipsisanyhow, if the network hardware weren't warm enough there's always my hard drive
19:12.53Pkekyooy Toadkiller!
19:14.09Kivinlots of servers up... almost there
19:14.13Kivinno cenarion circle, though ._.
19:14.17NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: touché. My laptop's HD is probably warm enough to make coffee
19:14.23Pkekyoanyone got any idea why there's a fucking round tracking icon in my upper left corner?
19:14.36Khreasilyathe dropdown one?
19:14.38NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: because you touch yourself at night.
19:14.49KivinPkekyo, god you're vulgar.  And it's a 2.3 addition.
19:15.13EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: even more convenient!
19:15.16PkekyoKivin: thanks for the complement, and how can I get rid of this 'addition'?
19:15.29kenlyricwait for a mod that removes it.
19:15.43kenlyricmapmod update, likely.
19:15.45NightHawkTheSaneSMM probably will
19:16.59PkekyoSMM?
19:17.04KivinsimpleMinimap
19:17.17Pkekyobut...I use squeenix :<
19:17.18Khreasilyaanyone know of any good screen art things?  currently using x-art fairytale.
19:17.20CIA-403chrisp * r54703 10QuestAnnouncer/QuestAnnouncer.toc: QuestAnnouncer: updated toc
19:17.25Khreasilyasimple minimap is boss.
19:17.27AeyanDunno about todays update, but SMM didn't remove it yesterday
19:17.28KivineePanels?
19:17.37AeyanI just downloaded trackerfu
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19:17.47AeyanSince apparently I have an assload of tracking abilities now, hehe
19:17.54kenlyricAeyan: it was updated with 2.3 tracking stuff?
19:18.00AeyanYeah
19:18.06kenlyricI didn't even notice.
19:18.08AeyanOh, you mean SMM?
19:18.10AeyanI dunno
19:18.14kenlyricno, trackerfu
19:18.18AeyanYeah, that works
19:18.18EllipsisPkekyo: there are actually quite a few things that will hide it, trackerfu, ebb, smm...
19:18.35PkekyoEBBs will hide it?
19:18.37Ellipsisyep
19:18.38kenlyricI was mostly tinkering with toons this morningg, didn't get around to mod tinkering.
19:18.39Ellipsischeck your settings
19:18.55Pkekyothank god
19:19.09Pkekyoone more thing: there's a bloody blue circle stuck on my minimap lower right corner O.o
19:19.12kenlyric237mp5 made me giddy.
19:19.23Ellipsisactually, god didn't write EBBs
19:19.39Ellipsisblue circle? sure it's not an addon button?
19:19.44Zhinjionoone cares about textures, eh? *grin*
19:20.01Ellipsisart is for artists
19:20.06PkekyoEllipsis: it's stuck in one place on my minimap, even when moving it around...doubt it's an addon
19:20.08Ellipsisreal men use raw binary to play
19:20.11kenlyricZhinjio: the artists don't come here much.
19:20.30kenlyricPkekyo: can you move closer to it?
19:20.34AeyanI found my happy texture
19:20.42AeyanSo, I'm happy
19:20.46kenlyricit might be tracking something?
19:20.58KemayoPkekyo: Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem a little... negative.
19:21.03kenlyricthe new party dots made me a bit dizzy at first.
19:21.06KivinMore than a little
19:21.17Pkekyokenlyric: no, it's not tracking...
19:21.17PkekyoKemayo: yes I am...
19:21.48KivinPkekyo, the party member "blips" on your minimap were changed from yellow/red to blue/white, is that what it is?
19:21.51Ellipsishay guise, US realms up
19:21.58Kivinonly a third of them, Ellipsis
19:21.59|Stan|Ellipsis: grats
19:22.13Ellipsiswell, all three of the ones I care about are
19:22.13Zhinjiomine's back.
19:22.16Ellipsisso you can go diaf
19:22.21Kivinforgive me, i take that back
19:22.23PkekyoKivin: nah, not in a party...it's a huge blue/turqoise circle with a 'black hole' in the centre
19:22.26Kivinlooks like the rest of em just came up
19:22.27kenlyrici'm stoked to find out I can turn the alpha for herbs on big map to 10% but they stay at 100% on the minimap.
19:22.44KivinPkekyo, do you have monkeybuddy?
19:22.46KemayoOh, I noticed something and wasn't sure if my brain was making it up or not.  Did they make a new, cleaner standard minimap yellow trapping dot?
19:22.47kenlyricsince I loaded the external node data I can't actually see anything on my big maps :)
19:22.56PkekyoKivin: what's monkeybuddy?
19:23.06KivinPkekyo, it's a config addon for monkeyquest, amongst others
19:23.09kenlyricKemayo: i haven't actually seen a yellow dot.
19:23.16Zhinjiowish y'all didn't have to be so bitter.
19:23.24EllipsisKemayo: er...the yellow dots look the same to me. it's just that they are very rarely yellow anymore >_>
19:23.25PkekyoKivin: no, nor do I have monkeyquest
19:24.06KemayoI've seen plenty of the yellow dots, for I mine and herb.  It's just that they looked somehow *cleaner*.  Very disconcerting.
19:24.39Ellipsisstrange
19:24.46CIA-403kemayo * r54704 10FuBar_KungFu/FuBar_KungFu.toc: FuBar_KungFu: TOC. Still stable.
19:24.52kenlyricnautilus would be fairly sensible attached to fubar.
19:25.00EllipsisI'm annoyed that they turn red/green based on hostility (when tracking a type of creature)
19:25.18KemayoHuh, that sounds like a good change.
19:25.19kenlyricheh. I love that change.
19:25.22KivinPop quiz, what is the name of the minimap frame?
19:25.32KemayoKivin: Try MiniMapFrame?
19:25.34kenlyricI'd like to turn off friendlies entirely.
19:25.35Kivintried, no dice
19:25.41Zhinjio|idleappropriately enough: MinimapCluster
19:25.56KivinOh, MinimapCluster appears to work :)
19:26.08Kivinsankyuu
19:26.13Zhinjio|idleyou will find, however, that its very weird behavior-wise.
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19:26.20Zhinjio|idlesome things parent to it, some don't.
19:26.35Ellipsisactually, what bothers me is not the red/green dots - the red I'm familiar with, the green I can get used to - but the fact that they're yellow when the client hasn't yet figured out their hostility
19:26.37NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: they did change the tracking dot model, it does seem nicer.
19:26.52Ellipsisso I see a yellow dot out of the corner of my eye and think "huh, did I have a quest to turn in?"
19:27.04Ellipsisthen I start running that way and it's like "oh...no, just some noob's imp"
19:27.20durcynthat's why you need FIND FISH instead of sense demons.
19:27.24Kivinit's got a weird coordinate on the screen... anchoring to it's TOPLEFT gives me a posision a 1/4" left of the minimap, near the BOTTOMLEFT point
19:27.28KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Oh, good.  I'm glad to know I'm not just seeing things. :)
19:27.43Ellipsisdurcyn: find a what now?
19:27.54NightHawkTheSaneHEEER FISHY FISHY FISHY
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19:28.04durcynEllipsis: fish tracking.
19:28.12Ellipsiscan has?
19:28.37Ellipsissuppose that would make it easier to skill up for lurker
19:28.42NightHawkTheSanefish for it. :P
19:29.31EllipsisI'll fish for your mom
19:29.35Ellipsis'cause she's a WHALE
19:29.36Ellipsisget it?
19:29.51NightHawkTheSane... whales aren't fish.
19:30.00NightHawkTheSaneand its more harpooning in that case
19:30.05Ellipsis...give me a break, I'm tired
19:30.07kenlyricI like how utterly useless "interface action failed because of an addon" is.
19:30.11EllipsisI haven't slept in...er...
19:30.19NightHawkTheSanesix hours?
19:30.23kenlyricyou can fish for whales.
19:30.26EllipsisI haven't slept in a while, let's leave it at that
19:30.32NightHawkTheSaneooh, four hours!
19:30.33kenlyricyou can fish for boots
19:30.37kenlyricor compliments.
19:31.05EllipsisI fish for compliments all the time
19:31.08kenlyricso, ell's joke stands.
19:31.11Ellipsisthe drop rate is way too low :(
19:31.48kenlyricyou should take up cooking instead.
19:31.58Ellipsis...
19:32.01NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i'd totally compliment you if you were a good cook
19:32.06Ellipsis...
19:32.08Ellipsissexist pigs.
19:32.10Ellipsis:P
19:32.10kenlyricwhy is the warlock sparkling like I can loot him.
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19:32.20kenlyricI meant cook your compliments instead of fishing for them.
19:32.21NightHawkTheSanewhat? I can't complimentsomeone for being a good cook?
19:32.22NightHawkTheSanejesus.
19:32.23kenlyrichigher drop rate.
19:32.24Zhinjio|idleok, cowtips sucks
19:32.40Ellipsisyeah, at least this game doesn't have any failure mechanic for cooking
19:32.55Ellipsiswhich makes me wonder how we're all so good at it
19:33.06EllipsisI mean, we never burn anything, the seasoning is always perfect...??
19:33.08Shirik|Ecolewell
19:33.15NightHawkTheSaneyou know those orphans in orgrimmar?
19:33.18Shirik|Ecoleafter you're so used to eating croissants that someone made from nowhere
19:33.23NightHawkTheSanewell, on one really cares about them, so we test our creations on them
19:33.24kenlyricI got an idea for talented... not have it throw chat errors every minute when it's not updated.
19:33.25Shirik|EcoleI imagine anything tastes good
19:33.45kenlyricand by that I mean every time I mouseover a player.
19:33.48Ellipsiskenlyric: I have an idea for your error problem...uninstall
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19:33.52Ellipsis:d
19:33.55Zhinjio|idlethink I'm going to go back to tipbuddy. it does what its supposed to.
19:33.56kenlyric~kenlyric
19:33.57purlit has been said that kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack
19:34.01GlorianHi :)
19:34.04Ellipsis...sigh
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19:34.24kenlyricwhat what? in the butt!
19:34.25NightHawkTheSanewait, Ellipsis raped kenlyric ?
19:34.25GlorianI am ace user since 9 month :)
19:34.28SaranaLooks like Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 got slightly broke with r54623. The Unicode BOM marker appears to have been stripped and some of the Korean translations have been moved into the lines commenting the beginning of sections. For example Anti-Venom in First Aid Recipes.
19:34.33EllipsisI will *never* be able to make you forget that, will I
19:34.34GlorianNice Mods
19:34.41Ellipsispurl may forget, but kenlyric remembers all
19:34.43NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: not with purl around, i don't  imagine
19:34.48kenlyricEllipsis: you really just need to make purl forget it.
19:35.07Ellipsiso rly?
19:35.08|Stan|Sarana: I could that it was that german girl that broke it last time
19:35.12|Stan|*bet
19:35.13Ellipsisyou won't just set it back?
19:35.20kenlyricI didn't say that :)
19:35.23Ellipsissee
19:35.24Glorianbut does anyone know how to get rid of the new Blizzard interface stuff in the lower part of the screen
19:35.26EllipsisI knew it :(
19:35.32NeoTronAkama - 2916 DPS, 52% crit. lawl
19:35.33kenlyricit was pretty classic.
19:35.54Ellipsiswhat
19:35.57Ellipsishow should I rape you?
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19:36.33Pkekyoa retractable baton?
19:36.38kenlyricok, now that one is much better.
19:36.53CIA-403nevcairiel * r54705 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: .Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: - revert latest change, @adal: consider this your only warning :P
19:37.00Gloriandoes anybody know?
19:37.22EllipsisGlorian, what "new" interface stuff?
19:37.35Glorianwait i do a screenshot
19:37.38Glorian:)
19:37.39kenlyricdeprecate babble
19:37.48kenlyricplay in english or gtfo
19:37.51Ellipsis^
19:38.12|Stan|kenlyric: meany :(
19:38.16Pkekyokalgan will have a fucking conniption when he finds out s3 is delayed ^^
19:38.23Shirik|Ecoleuh oh
19:38.27Shirik|Ecolenevcairiel seems angry :)
19:38.34kenlyricthe best art is enjoyed in its natural language :)
19:38.38buuS3 delays make me cry.
19:38.41kenlyriche's right to be angry.
19:38.44Ellipsiskenlyric: unfortunately Blizz doesn't agree
19:38.45buuBut at least you have more time to farm arena points.
19:38.51kenlyricconsidering some babble author makes that mistake once a week.
19:38.58kenlyric*at least
19:39.00durcynguess he'll just have to rock it in his s2 weapons for another week.
19:39.03|Stan|Ellipsis: they even translated city names -.-
19:39.05Shirik|Ecolewhat mistake?
19:39.09Shirik|EcoleI didn't bother to look
19:39.17Ellipsis|Stan|: mmm, taste the fail
19:39.22nevcairielShirik|Ecole: look at the file history, his commits where reverted like 3 commits ago already
19:39.23JaxonHmm, I don't think Automaton is selling off trash loot automatically anymore :(
19:39.26nevcairieli hate people that do that
19:39.27|Stan|Ellipsis: Ironforge is "Eisenschmiede" -.-
19:39.34Shirik|EcoleI don't know where to look at the file history, nor do I know the SVN address
19:39.53nevcairielwell anyway, he did the same mistake before, and if he doesnt learn
19:39.53kenlyricyeah, translating ironforge is like dumb on an epic scale.
19:39.54nevcairielbad for him
19:39.55|Stan|Shirik|Ecole: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Babble-Tradeskill-2.0
19:40.06nevcairielfish is down right now :P
19:40.13|Stan|mmm :/
19:40.13NeoTronso anyone know what "Sadist" is? a SP in my guild got that buff 21 times in a Naj'entus fight
19:40.15Shirik|EcoleERROR
19:40.15Shirik|EcoleThe requested URL could not be retrieved
19:40.22Shirik|Ecoleqq
19:40.32Ellipsisblame canada
19:40.39Ellipsisthey're the ones generating all the traffic
19:40.41PkekyoNeoTron: sadomasochist?
19:40.41Ellipsisreally
19:40.47kenlyricbogus. I gotta ride to that flightpath to get it?
19:40.52Shirik|EcoleNeoTron: If you had battle recorder, you'd know
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19:41.02kenlyricwhat if horde lowbies kill me?
19:41.03NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37604
19:41.05NeoTronah
19:41.21NeoTron4p T5
19:41.22Ellipsiskenlyric: then don't flag (alternatively, roll PvE and don't flag) :P
19:41.26Tsetsewhere can i find the syntax for cowtip text?
19:41.28Glorianhttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/59/uishotcf6.jpg
19:41.36Glorian@elipsis
19:41.43EllipsisTsetse: it's in the dogtag wiki page
19:41.47|Stan|Tsetse: dogtag wiki
19:41.59Tsetsek
19:42.03Litvanelkano around?
19:42.05EllipsisGlorian: what are you trying to get rid of exactly?
19:42.46Glorianthe whole thing
19:42.57EllipsisI don't see anything there that's part of the Blizzard interface, let alone new in patch
19:42.59Glorianthe big bar
19:43.03Khreasilyathe black part?
19:43.05Ellipsisyou mean the fubar?
19:43.13CIA-403snago * r54706 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (5 files):
19:43.13CIA-4FuBar_NinjutFu:
19:43.13CIA-4- Removed tracking of Blinding Powder
19:43.13CIA-4- Bumped TOC
19:43.18Glorianthe thing above fubar
19:43.19Khreasilyathe screen art at the bottom of the screen?  
19:43.23Ellipsisdelete XArt
19:43.26Khreasilyayep
19:43.27Glorianthis art thing
19:43.29kenlyricaI don't get that mod.
19:43.34GlorianThis is Xart??
19:43.36Ellipsisyeah
19:43.39kenlyricI guess if you only ever played a rogue.
19:43.55Ellipsissome of us are crazy like that and never play other classes
19:44.04Gloriani had previously a completly different theme in xart
19:44.10Glorianmaybe broken with patch
19:44.11Glorian:-/
19:44.16GlorianThanks guys :)
19:44.23Khreasilyaglorian
19:44.33Khreasilyaevery time i update xart it overwrites the theme i was using
19:44.40Khreasilya( fairytale)
19:44.50PkekyoGlorian: correct, updating xArt breaks will remove your correct theme
19:44.57EllipsisI wasn't aware it even had themes
19:45.00Khreasilyatry finding the original dl link for the theme you're using :)
19:45.01Khreasilyayep
19:45.02GlorianThank you very much :)
19:45.15Gloriani still got the archive of the theme :)
19:45.44PkekyoEllipsis: well, not really, but in some new version the twat of an author decided to embed a new art style
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19:46.09Ellipsisinteresting
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19:47.42Pkekyomore annoying, really
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19:49.15Pkekyoforced me to rewrit part of xArt myself and pop goddamn .svn folders in the xArt folders
19:49.41Gloriansucks
19:49.48Pkekyoyup
19:50.17Khreasilyawhy did you need to re-write?  
19:50.52durcynwhich is why i apply background art using eepanels, xart is, uh, goofy.
19:51.25Pkekyobecause I updated, hadn't created a backup of the old one, and my original stuff got overwritten... rewrote about 30% of the code, altered the targa files etc...and now it's all purty :)
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19:54.07Pkekyoanyone know who the original author of xArt is?
19:54.49Pkekyoand es, durcyn, xArt has become kinda bollocks lately
19:55.57Glorianwhy?
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19:56.36Pkekyowell, it has been ever since it started overwriting with new graphics etc
19:56.43Ellipsismy eyes don't want to work :(
19:56.50EllipsisI think that means it's time for bed
19:57.17GlorianPkeykyo i noticed  :-/
19:57.27GlorianHere it is 9pm
19:57.33PkekyoEllipsis: no, it means it's time to get some speed
19:57.38Glorianno time to go to bed yet
19:57.40|moonsorrow|Pkekyo: I am
19:57.45Glorianlol Pkekyo
19:57.47moonsorrowdamn nick
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19:58.06Pkekyomoonsorrow: you're the original author?
19:58.09moonsorrowyes
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19:58.28Pkekyoyou don't happen to have the original files for the fairytale setup as well?
19:58.33Pkekyo(preferable not targas)
19:58.51moonsorrowthere was no fairytale setup in my original files
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19:59.03Pkekyodoh
19:59.46Pkekyoso I've basicly gotta find the one person on zeh intarwebz that did the fairytale setup?
20:00.11thulwhat, what, what, what in my butt?
20:00.26Ellipsisglhf with your "where's waldo" game Pkekyo
20:00.43thulI like the new hemo
20:00.45Glorianhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6712-FairyTaleStyleusingXArt.html
20:00.46moonsorrowPkekyo: correct :)
20:00.49PkekyoKhreasilya: you around still?
20:00.52Glorianthis was the fairy tale style
20:00.54PkekyoEllipsis: thanks, needed
20:00.57Gloriani am using it too
20:00.58Glorian:)
20:01.00Ellipsisnight folks <#
20:01.02Ellipsis<3
20:01.05Pkekyog'nite Ellipsis
20:01.18thul+
20:01.18Gloriangnite Ellipsis
20:01.43Pkekyohttp://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg old version of my UI running a slightly modified fairytale
20:02.02Gloriannice
20:02.43Pkekyoworking on recolouring nowadays, but targa files are absolute bollocks to modify
20:02.58thulhttp://folk.uio.no/ulrikft/current_ui2.png ftw
20:03.09CIA-403antiarc * r54707 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua Threat-1.0.lua):
20:03.09CIA-4Threat-1.0:
20:03.09CIA-4- Actually activate the 2.3 compat code. Doh.
20:03.09CIA-4- Fix an error in the paladin module concerning Fanaticism.
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20:03.32VarazirHmm ar ethere a settings for the tool tip anyware ? ( using ag unitframe
20:03.41|Stan|http://www.staneck.de/upload/files/WoWScrnShot_111307_210140.jpg < mine
20:04.07bigzerocan anyone explain the point of PROTECTED functions if non-secure code can call them anyway?
20:04.36Gloriannice and clean stan
20:04.54GlorianAnoying unsers bigzero ^^
20:04.54bigzerounless UseContainerItem is no longer a protected function
20:05.34bigzerobut seriously, am i right in saying that only secure blizzard code is supposed to call secure functions?
20:05.39GlorianPkekyo this is mine http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9945/wowscrnshot102507165636jb6.jpg
20:05.41bigzeroprotected functions*
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20:06.45_ranecan anyone assist me a bit with totem killing rank 1 moonfire macro?
20:07.40thulhmm, gonff didn@t work after all
20:07.41xerawxlol warlocks are hexenmeisters in german
20:07.45xerawxi love it
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20:08.03Glorian:)
20:08.05|Stan|^^
20:08.11Gloriani love Locks :)
20:08.23xerawxmy new lock is 41 ;P
20:08.26Glorian:)
20:08.37Glorianmy main is a paladin
20:08.43Glorianbut lock is more fun to play
20:08.51thulhehe
20:08.58thulmy  old main: pala, then: shaman.. now: rogue
20:09.03xerawxthey're really fun to play.. managing all the binds if you hate clicking becomes a problem though
20:09.20Khreasilyato join late in the screeny posting os xart fairytale.   raid before changes http://ctscreens.net/9432    raide after changes http://ctscreens.net/9431
20:10.02|Stan|Khreasilya: that omen texture is really hard to read
20:10.50Khreasilyayeh but i like it lots :P
20:10.51Glorianxerawx i did me some grinding makros
20:10.55Glorianwith casting sequences
20:11.20CIA-403antiarc * r54708 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua:
20:11.20CIA-4Threat-1.0:
20:11.20CIA-4- Make Fanaticism's threat reduction not apply while under the effects of Righteous Fury.
20:11.40Gloriansaves some buttonspace
20:14.34GlorianPkekyo what do you think about my UI
20:15.04Pkekyoit's fine, disregarding the bar textures...
20:15.14PkekyoI bloody hate that texture more than anything
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20:15.58PogoTribalPlayaaaaaaaz
20:16.03xerawxGlorian: yeah i've got a couple of those too, and at 41 the abilities are still pretty manageable.. i mean more like 60-70 you have so many abilities that can be used in combat
20:16.05Gnarfoz<xerawx> lol warlocks are hexenmeisters in german <-- what else would they be ;) - actually they are just Hexenmeister, it's the same form for plural and singular (although it's not the same form for male and female)
20:17.22GlorianPkekyo it is the non glossy one in the meantime :)
20:18.27PkekyoGlorian: was refering to your hp/mana bars...you should also get some darker actionbar skin though
20:19.05Glorianaah :)  
20:19.52Glorianthe actionbar skin is now Onyx Black
20:20.06Khreasilya<3 onyx
20:20.26Gnarfozhm yeah, EU armory crashes my firefox oO
20:20.32Pkekyovol black w/o gloss is full of win and awesome
20:20.36PkekyoGnarfoz: l2opera :>
20:20.42GnarfozPkekyo: l2stfu
20:20.43Gnarfoz:p
20:20.49Khreasilyayep.  i just went to something like that pkek.  about 5 minutes ago lols
20:20.55PkekyoGnarfoz: nev4r
20:21.29Pkekyoanyone seen apocalypto?
20:21.30Khreasilyaedit:  gold orbs with a black bar is win.  
20:22.05PogoTribalIs it jus tmy FuBar that isn't showing up?
20:22.35PogoTribalOr is the update still being worked on.
20:22.35GlorianAs i started using Pitbull it was so embarassing ^^
20:22.49Khreasilyapogotribal: my fubar is still working fine :)  dunno though
20:23.17PkekyoPogoTribal: it's just you
20:23.18PogoTribalDid you update?
20:23.33PogoTribalAlright I may have to delete the variables and remake it, because mine's not showing up.
20:23.44PogoTribalWhich makes my minimap look like hell.
20:24.23GlorianI am using simple minimap And some foobar addons
20:24.26Glorianworks like a charm
20:24.28Pkekyoif fubar not showing up only affects your minimap, you fail at using addons, my good sir
20:24.41KhreasilyaLOL
20:24.58PogoTribalUhh
20:25.02GnarfozUS armory is also ftl
20:25.04Gnarfoz"Gladiator %s"
20:25.05Gnarfoz^^
20:25.26PogoTribalI mean my minimap has all the mod buttosn around it, instead of being on FuBar where they should be
20:25.32Pkekyoah
20:25.35Pkekyoyou're fucked then
20:25.47Pkekyohad the same problem when ckknight started that rock bullshit
20:26.02PogoTribalThere's a lot of info on FuBar that I like to use, like bagspace, performance, gold, mana regen, configuration buttons, etc.
20:26.13PogoTribalYeah exactly, tha thappened then too
20:30.50PkekyoKhreasilya: yup, flipped'em, changed alphas and some other stuff...raid frames are PitBull with a modified perfectraid setup
20:31.42Khreasilyathe setup is nice :)
20:31.56Khreasilyai didn't like grid because oddly enough it took up too much space when not a healer
20:32.02Pkekyoindeed
20:32.27Khreasilyaanyway i can get you to tell me how to set up pitbull that way?
20:32.30Pkekyoalso: voicefu...it's absolute bollocks...doesn't work at all
20:32.39Khreasilyaawww :(
20:33.09Khreasilyai <3 the new ventrilo overlay.  but it's big, and doesn't display over wow for me.  was wondering if that monitored vent speakers heh
20:33.21PkekyoI think there's a thread on the forums about pitbull frame setups...not at my wow box now, so can't give you a paste of my setup
20:33.22Glorianhttp://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5755/wowscrnshot111407213208cv6.jpg
20:33.25Glorianupdated UI
20:33.26Glorian^^
20:33.53PkekyoGlorian: it's improving :)
20:34.02GlorianThe buttons are Flexbar2
20:34.16GlorianFlexbar is so powerfull
20:34.22Glorianbut configuration is a pain in the ass
20:34.37Khreasilyaglorian: don't know if you'd want to but you can save space on your fubar upper frame by showing icon only.  would look less crowded <3
20:34.51PkekyoI prefer bartender over flexbar tbh...everything I need :)
20:35.37dashkalMan I'm behind on netspeak.  I just had to google tbh
20:35.49GlorianThe Petbar is done with bartender :)
20:35.54Glorianin my ui
20:36.02Khreasilyasigh at pally kiting uvuros to the scryer town and killing people with it >.<
20:36.07Gloriangood idea Khreasilya
20:36.19Glorianmy pala ui looks different
20:36.29GlorianThanks god for Holy Hope ^^
20:36.39Khreasilyaheh
20:36.54Khreasilyais acolyte 2 all that good?
20:37.04Khreasilyai tried acolyte and wanted to hit something >.<
20:37.40alextoh i almost missed this
20:37.45alext<PogoTribal> I mean my minimap has all the mod buttosn around it, instead of being on FuBar where they should be
20:37.48alextdid you get that resolved?
20:37.53alexti had the same issue and fixed it
20:38.06GlorianI liked Lylock more Khreasilya
20:38.17Glorianbut it is out of development
20:38.22alext1.  I manually deleted "Fubar" and all the "LibRock*" folders from interface/addons
20:38.35alextdownloaded them fresh from www.wowace.com/files
20:38.45Khreasilyaglorian... it's a pain in the ass to set up.  but have you tried lunarsphere?
20:38.55Khreasilyamissing all the macros and shit though
20:39.01alextbut then I had to recheck some libs in my in-game addon list....even with checking "load out of date addons", there were some that were unchecked that were not pre-patch
20:39.02Glorianso Acolyte2 is the only alternative
20:39.03Glorian^^
20:39.15Gloriannever tried lunasphere
20:39.21Glorianworks ok
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20:39.25Gloriansaves some buttons
20:39.28Glorianso it is ok
20:39.29Glorian^^
20:39.31alextstill using the latest version of necrosis2 lol
20:39.37Khreasilyasame idea as necrosis with the circle. but allows you to assign everything
20:39.40alextno errors, not using many resources
20:39.48alexteverything still workin
20:40.10GlorianI'll Check that out Khreasilya
20:40.11alextmight want to look at "fortelock"
20:40.19SunTsufsck, barswitching in bartender3 is broken, after some time one bar is stuck and nothing switches anymore
20:40.20Khreasilyai switched from necro to lylock.. then lylock didn't have enough stuff so i added acolyte.  went back to necrosis
20:40.26Khreasilyasettled on lunarsphere
20:40.32alexthttp://fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31
20:40.41sbmh
20:40.45alextfortelock is a nice addon, not a sphere type warlock addon but loads of features
20:40.45sbwtb zul'aman map :p
20:40.51alextthe coding is a little iffy but, it works
20:41.05Gloriandid you update with WowACEupdate SunTsu
20:41.14Khreasilyahttp://moongazeaddons.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=lunarsphere
20:41.22Silviu-!seen CIA-4
20:41.26Khreasilya^^lunarsphere best mod evar ^^
20:41.26Silviu-~seen CIA-4
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20:41.41SunTsuGlorian: It is as up to date as WAU can get
20:43.23GlorianI did not like the Forte thing so much alext
20:43.40Glorianbut i will check out lunasphere
20:44.24alextGlorian: yeah i cant say too much about it, i use it specifically for the summon features ;]
20:44.29alexteverything else is disabled
20:44.42GlorianI wrote a makro for the summoning thing
20:44.48Glorianwith key modifiers
20:44.55Glorianits the button in the center of the UI
20:46.09QuantumDelta*pokies Antiarc*
20:46.13JaxonWhat are people using to automatically sell any grey items in their inventory?
20:46.14AntiarcYo
20:46.31GlorianGarbage Fu Jaxon
20:46.38Glorianor Farmer Fu
20:46.39Glorian:)
20:46.44Gloriandoes it both :)
20:46.49Khreasilyai use the middle click function on a menu button for summons.  >.<
20:47.05JaxonGlorian: thanks, I saw GarbageFu, but the description seemed to imply it trashed items from your bags when you were out of space.
20:47.20QuantumDeltaHave you got the data on the retri threat redux antiarc?
20:47.23GlorianBoth Jaxon
20:47.29Glorianbut not automaticaly
20:47.33AntiarcQuantumDelta: Yup. It was broken but I fixed it an hour ago or so.
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20:47.53QuantumDelta54601 isn't current?
20:47.59GlorianKhreasilya where is the download link of lunarsphere
20:48.15Antiarc54708 is the latest
20:48.23SunTsuJaxon: It offers you to trash that manually, showing you what you've lost net worth and it puts a sell button into the merchant's frame
20:48.30Glorianjust removed the tomatoes of my eyes
20:48.32Glorianfound it
20:48.42AntiarcIt looks like it may not be built on files yet, QuantumDelta
20:48.45GlorianCant describe it better SunTsu
20:49.32JaxonSunTsu: ah, I was looking for something that did it automatically.  Automaton seems to be getting stuck after selling one item.
20:49.47GlorianSelling is automatic jaxon
20:49.55GlorianDestroying is manual
20:49.55Glorian^^
20:50.02QuantumDeltaokies antiarc <33
20:50.06JaxonAh.
20:50.10QuantumDeltaSorry to bother ya :)
20:50.12CIA-403darravis * r54709 10SmartyCat/ (SmartyCat.lua SmartyCat.toc):
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20:50.12CIA-4-Updated for 2.3
20:50.18AntiarcHehe, no worries
20:50.25Silviu-U /var/mkfiles/svn/svn_dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua
20:50.25Silviu-U /var/mkfiles/svn/svn_dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua
20:50.25Silviu-Updated to revision 54708.
20:50.34Silviu-I think it is already Antiarc
20:50.38Pkekyo~dict lament
20:51.11kenlyricheh, the negareview of crysis seems sorta dire.
20:51.44GlorianI allready preordered Crysis
20:51.51kenlyricwell, i should clarify, dire for my possibilities of buying it.
20:51.51Gloriancant wait to get my fingers on in
20:52.37Silviu-Glorian is booring
20:52.38Gloriani ordered @ cd-wow
20:52.40Silviu-Already finished it
20:52.52kenlyricI got the discover channel for pretty scenery. I require stories.
20:52.52Silviu-And short :)
20:53.01Gloriani dont expect too much i guess :)
20:53.18Gloriana decent shooter with some story
20:53.28SunTsuJaxon: Well, you just have to hit the button once, it sells all grey stuff
20:53.38Silviu-Glorian what videocard u have ?
20:53.47GlorianRadeon X1950XT
20:53.48Khreasilyaanyone having any issues with skinner?
20:54.04Silviu-Hmm don`t really know the performance from Ati
20:54.25SunTsuJaxon: There is an option to sell it automatically, I just found it ;)
20:54.27Silviu-But my 8800 GTS was making problems on high settings and 1440X900
20:54.37GlorianAs i read in reviews it should run fairly good in 1280x1024
20:54.38GnarfozGlorian: dude, use enGB :< deDE is horrible
20:54.44JaxonSunTsu: fantastic, I just installed it, haven't restarted WoW yet to try it out. THanks a bunch, you too Glorian.
20:54.51QuantumDeltaAntiarc I'll let you know if it works in about 5 minutes <3
20:55.01Glorianand thats the native resolution of the TFT
20:55.21GlorianJaxon  No problem
20:55.38GlorianGnarfoz i know
20:55.51SunTsuJaxon: You're welcome ;)
20:55.58Glorianbut its strange to ask someone for questing together
20:56.02kenlyricSilviu-: what did you think of the story? tacked on at the end?
20:56.03Glorianyou got the english names
20:56.09Glorianand dont know the german ones
20:56.25Glorianevery time switching to buffed and lookin for the german quest name is not that nice :)
20:56.26Gnarfozlet that be their problem to figure out... or use buffed, you can search for both languages there, it will find the correct one
20:56.30Gnarfozheh
20:56.33Silviu-kenlyric as i said before booring story .. save the island kill the aliens .. bye :)
20:56.39Gnarfozbeen there, done that, it seems
20:56.50Silviu-kenlyric kill the boss, kill the spaceship victoryyyyyyyyy :))
20:56.53kenlyricwell, that's every FPS story.
20:56.59GlorianRight
20:57.08Silviu-brb Bloodboil
20:57.09Silviu-;p
20:57.12Gloriani dont expect more from an Game or an action movie
20:57.14kenlyricbut sometimes the story is in service to the game and sometimes the game is in service to the story. I prefer the latter.
20:57.24GlorianBrain.exe in suspend mode
20:57.28Glorianand fun starts
20:57.29Glorian:)
20:57.40kenlyricthat's what multiplayer is for :)
20:58.11GlorianLook at Stranglehold
20:58.20Gloriannice shootouts thin story
20:58.51kenlyricdunno, never played.
20:58.52GlorianI liked Bioshock and Half life 2
20:59.20|Stan|Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/77206
20:59.26kenlyrici don't expect perfection. heck, I liked doom3.
20:59.45Antiarc|Stan|: Got that when closing a pullout bar?
20:59.53Glorian:-)  
20:59.58kenlyricthough it was very nearly too much story and not enough gameplay.
21:00.04Glorianthen you like Bioshock kenlyric
21:00.10Glorianintense athmosphere
21:00.15kenlyricGlorian: as soon as my computer can run it :)
21:00.26Glorian:-D
21:00.34Khreasilyado cycircled skins apply to buffalo 2 the same way the do to buffalo?
21:00.49CIA-403darravis * r54710 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (SmartyCatManaBar.lua SmartyCatManaBar.toc):
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21:00.50kenlyricunless it's an absolute must-have, I'm a big fan of the $29.99 and $39.99 bin anyway.
21:01.01GlorianAs far as i know yes Khreasilya
21:01.23Gloriani know kenlyric
21:01.33|Stan|Antiarc: nah, when right-clicking omen
21:01.35Gloriani got bioshock from our Video rental
21:01.37Khreasilyasigh.  trying to set up buffalo 2 and it's not showing the cycircled skin.  so i can judge scale >.,
21:01.38kenlyricso, if I shoot everyone who writes a blog and begins every sentence with "so", do I get a prize?
21:01.38AntiarcHm. Okay.
21:02.58Zhinjio|idleCan Quartz bars be dragged to position?
21:03.02Gloriani am an fan of Elkks buff bars Khreasilya
21:03.12Zhinjio|idleah, nm. figured it out.
21:03.15GlorianYeah Zhinjio|idle they can
21:03.15Glorian:)
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21:04.18NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: so, i suppose you can. but.. won't you think of the poor underused 'so'?!? WHO WILL USE THE SO THEN?!
21:04.49kenlyricso what. so what. so what so what you fucking little slut.
21:04.55kenlyricMetallica will keep it alive.
21:05.00Glorian:))
21:05.03NightHawkTheSanehey, hey. i'm not little.
21:05.04GlorianA metal fan
21:05.07Glorian:)
21:06.34KemayoNightHawkTheSane is 800lbs of sluttishness?
21:07.00NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: hell yes.
21:07.10dodgaSo since the raid warning frame is all funky and stuff now, anyone cares to update ImprovedRWF? :D
21:07.16Towbaranyone getting INSANE lag in hyjal?
21:07.21Towbarreally low framerates
21:08.09ToadkillerGrum: What exactly are you doing to get an AutoBar error?
21:08.09kenlyricwhich damage meter do you use towbar?
21:08.15Khreasilyaglorian: are elk buff bars those lines like the old ct one?
21:08.23Towbarrecount and sw stats
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21:11.00GlorianKhreasilya yes they are but moch more configurable
21:11.03KeiasTowbar, what bar mod are you using?
21:11.24GlorianWas SW Stats updated?
21:11.35Towbarelkbuffbars
21:11.41Towbarbartender
21:11.42Gloriani switched to Damage meters because the lack of updates @SW Stats
21:11.43Towbardoh
21:12.12|Stan|Glorian: noes
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21:13.15TowbarKeias, any ideas?
21:13.26KeiasNo clue then :(
21:13.40Towbarthe whole raid is having trouble atm in hyjal, wiped on second boss 4 times now cause of lag
21:13.43KeiasI know there was some issues with Bongos and Buff/Debuff highlighting yesterday.  But thats about it.
21:13.45Towbarwe all use sw stats
21:13.52Towbarand some more like me have recount as well
21:15.09Towbarsince recount is AWESOME :)
21:15.19Towbarsuch a nice addon
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21:16.04TheKarnhey everyone
21:16.59Towbaryo
21:17.16TheKarnas anyone actually had any benefit from multicore on windows?
21:17.37Towbarnope
21:17.40TheKarns/as/has
21:18.00Towbarif anything its worse
21:18.19Towbarnice to have 60 in shat but in hyjal its a nightmare
21:19.04NeoTronTheKarn: I notice no difference
21:19.14TheKarnit makes no difference to my performance if i set my affinity to one core or four!
21:19.16NeoTronWoW uses no more CPU and it's not noticeably faster
21:19.18TheKarnblizzard lie in path notes
21:19.42NeoTronKeias: our MT had issues and finally did track it down to bongos
21:19.43Chompersso what's the reset time on za?
21:19.49Chompersis it 3/4 days?
21:19.57Towbara mate with quad core says now it only uses 2 cores, the other two sit idle
21:20.05Khreasilyasigh.  anyone know how to force buffalo 2 to skin?
21:20.05Towbarkudoz blizzard..
21:20.08NeoTronthat's 1 more core than it uses for me
21:20.18TheKarntowbar the default affinity is cpu0 and cpu1
21:20.30Towbaryea
21:20.35TheKarnif he enables the other two (open task manager, right click on wow.exe in processes ... set affinity)
21:20.41Towbargood point
21:20.51TullerNeoTron: the good news is that I fixed it:P
21:20.52NeoTron2 core, and it uses 57%
21:20.54TheKarnbut my wow doesnt even use the other cores
21:20.59NeoTronTuller: he updated mid-raid
21:21.12Tullerdid it go away after that?
21:21.20NeoTronironically he disabled pretty much all addons but the action bars is the one thing you truly need :P
21:21.24NeoTronit did
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21:22.16Pkekyomeh, I don't really see the benefit of multicore CPUs
21:22.34Chompers...
21:22.37Paene...
21:22.39NightHawkTheSane...
21:22.42fishbot2well clock speed isn't going to increase much more so you'll have to :p
21:22.51Jaxon<PROTECTED>
21:22.57Pkekyowell
21:23.14NightHawkTheSaneit's the difference between driving your cart with one horse, or two horses.
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21:23.23Pkekyofrom my old singlecore to my current multicore...there's basicly no difference at all...
21:23.23Chompers...
21:23.31kadrahilhmm
21:23.40kadrahildepravity, or cruelty, that is the question
21:23.48kadrahilwell, 80 ap, or 40 crit, is the real question
21:23.58kadrahil40 crit = 1.81%
21:24.04NightHawkTheSaneoh, i thought you were talking about how to respond to Pkekyo :P
21:24.11Pkekyohahah
21:24.13kadrahilhaha
21:25.16Khreasilyacycircled isn't saving my skin settings for buttons.  always loads to onyx.  anyone know if that's my error?  does onyx always load first if it's enabled?
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21:25.17CIA-4- SellJunk script now uses UseContainerItem function to sell items (could cause problems since it's supposed to be PROTECTED, but is working fine now)
21:25.17CIA-4- Changed "Fishing Pole" to "Fishing Poles" in proficiencies.lua
21:25.18CIA-4- .toc bump
21:25.28TheKarnthe only time wow uses more then one core is when i run it in opengl
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21:25.53TheKarnand when i do performance is show shit (opengl seems to fail for performance for some reason)
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21:26.44CIA-4GlowFoSho:
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21:27.38CIA-4FuBar_WorldPVPFu:
21:27.38CIA-4- .toc bump
21:27.43Pkekyonever ran opengl on wow, but in all other apps it've used to increase performance
21:28.10TheKarnyeah i know
21:28.12TheKarnits really strange
21:28.52NightHawkTheSaneon windows, wow's opengl implementation is generally worse than the directx implementation, i believe
21:29.12TheKarni get 37fps average with directx, with opengl i get 10fps max
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21:29.47Glorianin normal gamplay or in raid TheKarn
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21:29.54TheKarnraid
21:30.44Varazir[NA]Hmm wheer can tooltip be changed ? ( in unit frame or ?
21:30.52Cheadserwhat a disappointing patch, new crap dailies with too low drop rate, stupid new global cooldown system, and more annoying fast respawns :/
21:31.08Pkekyoyeah, what's with the GCD system?
21:31.21Kody-kilrogg was terribly laggy last night too
21:31.26Pkekyoand why does autoattack stop when there's not enough rage to do a on-next-attack ability?=
21:31.36TsetseFYI
21:31.41TsetseIMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
21:31.43GlorianTheKarn died you trike   /console timingMethod 1
21:31.44XuerianTheKarn: out of curiosity, are you using vista or not?
21:31.46Kody-don't forget the near-pointless pvp daily quest that gives a jaw-dropping 400 honor!
21:31.51TheKarnXuerian: no
21:31.57Xueriannevermind then :p
21:32.04TsetseLast winters special holiday event gave reindeer... and they NOW FLY
21:32.06TheKarnGlorian:  is that in opengl or directx?
21:32.15Xueriano_o
21:32.18Gloriandirect x
21:32.25Xueriantsetse: verified?
21:32.28Glorianhelped for me to get better frame rates
21:32.29Tsetseyes
21:32.30Kody-Yeah Tsetse, saw that :P
21:32.33Tsetsei just flew around and they rock =)
21:32.34Glorianwith my dual core
21:32.34Kody-Pretty cool
21:32.40XuerianHaha nice
21:32.46TheKarnmakes no difference
21:32.49QuantumDeltaAntiarc, my ret pally says it's not working :<
21:32.58AntiarcWhich revision is he running?
21:33.20Glorianyou have to restart the game TheKarn
21:33.25QuantumDelta54708
21:33.40AntiarcDoes he have righteous fury up?
21:33.45XuerianUnannounced changes ftw
21:34.08QuantumDeltanopers
21:34.16TheKarnrestarted
21:34.17QuantumDeltahis threat is displaying much higher than it should be with fana
21:34.26Antiarcokay. respeccing my paladin to test.
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21:34.48QuantumDeltaI would offer you that myself but since i'm actually tanking atm ^^;;
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21:34.58AntiarcHehe, that's fine
21:35.19QuantumDeltahe had 135% of the MTs threat on the falcon boss in ZA ;\
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21:36.03Teufelso have they fixed the shammy bug yet
21:36.14PhilwagHi guys
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21:37.12Philwagi have a problem with an ace addon, but i dont know which one it is. Can anyone help me?  Error message is: Interface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:609: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value):
21:37.12PhilwagEQL3\EQL3_Tooltip.lua:29: in function `ContainerFrameItemButton_OnEnter'
21:37.12Philwag<string>:"*:OnEnter":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnter"]:1>
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21:38.04aestilsimple mini map update to hide the tracking icon?
21:40.05Zhinjio|idleaestil: EBB hides it, if you use that.
21:40.18kadrahilaestil: SMM already hides it as one of the options
21:40.33kadrahili mean, the option is there
21:42.14Zhinjiokadrahil: doesn't seem to work since 2.3 with all the extended stuff.
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21:42.59aestilEBB worked, ty
21:43.04Zhinjioyw
21:43.13Philwaganyone has an answer for my question?
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21:43.34Philwagsearching the whole afternoon
21:43.40CJJUICEcurse is down?
21:43.50Zhinjiohmm. Philwag: what bag addons do you use?
21:43.59Zhinjioor things that reference bags/bank
21:44.00CJJUICEor is my internets gone
21:44.30Philwagbagnon
21:44.31GlorianAddonDDOS @curse ^^
21:44.51Zhinjiohmm. bagnon is working fine.
21:44.55Tullertooltip addons?
21:45.21Pkekyobest headline for a long time in the tabloids: One out of three brits believe Mount Everest is in Europe, and 9% believe it's on the british isles.
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21:45.50GlorianOMFG
21:46.04Philwaghmm no special tooltip addon, but dont know if any other addon also changes the tooltip
21:46.06NeoTronman that is impressively stupid
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21:46.39Pkekyoindeed
21:46.57Pkekyomeh...Apocalypso was kinda bollocks
21:47.17ZhinjioPhilwag: process of elimination is sometimes difficult due to quantity of addons, but it still cannot fail you.
21:47.44sbTeufel: shammy bug?
21:48.04kadrahilZhinjio: oh
21:48.07Philwagdoes eepanels change the tooltip?
21:48.21kadrahilZhinjio: i expected as much, right before 2.3 i deleted my WTF fold and all of my addons
21:48.41kadrahilZhinjio: default UI ftw until i know everything's been updated :)
21:49.25CIA-403antiarc * r54714 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua:
21:49.25CIA-4Threat-1.0:
21:49.25CIA-4- It might help if Fanatism reduced reported threat by 30%, rather than increasing it by 30%.
21:49.35AntiarcQuantumDelta: There's yer fix :)
21:49.40KemayoAntiarc: It's the little things, huh?
21:49.44AntiarcHehe, always.
21:49.45QuantumDeltaThank you kind sir
21:50.02ZhinjioI don't generally delete my WTF folder anymore. I like keeping my settings, but I enable a few at a time until I'm comfortable with 'em all.
21:50.33Zhinjioand this time, I'm redoing my UI layout.
21:50.39Zhinjiotrying a few new things.
21:50.45Zhinjioso starting from the ground up.
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21:51.16AeyanI tell myself I'm gonna do that
21:51.22AeyanThen wimp out 5 minutes later
21:51.24Fisker-FUCK YOU FUCKING Chompers
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21:54.22kadrahilFisker-: CHILL OUT WITH THE LANGUAGE KTHX
21:54.39Chompersoh hai fishbot2
21:54.41Chompersuh
21:54.44ChompersFisker-
21:54.44kadrahilFisker-: BEFORE I MORTTAL STRIKE SHOT YOU
21:54.48kadrahil-T
21:54.51Teufelhey can someone explain what this psyn.xml is for Pitbull_Fullbar. is it the update for the addon?
21:54.54Teufelhttp://files.wowace.com/PitBull_FullBar/
21:54.55hasteARCANITE REAPER!
21:54.56Fisker-i hate this fucking fight
21:55.10Chompersleo huh
21:55.15Fisker-yes
21:55.29Chompersalmost did him tonight
21:55.31kadrahilChompers: fishbot2 haha
21:55.34kadrahilpro
21:55.34Chomperswe chose moro instead
21:55.46kadrahilgotta collect 'em all
21:55.47Fisker-well we've had a lot of tries on 5-10%
21:55.50kadrahilmoro I CHOOSE YOU
21:55.58Fisker-annoys me
21:56.06Fisker-and now we had him on like 10%
21:56.10Tsetseare guild vaults in TB broken?
21:56.12Fisker-everything was going fucking great
21:56.13Chomperswe spent a whole night  on that
21:56.17Fisker-"Lulz i got disconnected"
21:56.24Chompersshit :<
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21:56.34Fisker-that was our demon tank of course
21:58.32KemayoTeufel: I believe that's supposed to be for the Curse client, in some way.
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21:59.09Varazir[NA]BasicChatMods are there any / command for that addon ?
21:59.47KemayoVarazir[NA]: Wouldn't be very basic if there were, would it?
22:00.25Varazir[NA]well can't you config it att all ?
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22:01.46KemayoVarazir[NA]: I believe BasicChatMods is a variant of SimpleChatMods.  SimpleChatMods is configured by editing a .lua file within the addon.
22:01.54ToadkillerQuestion: can you reparent a secure action button?  ie remove it from parent you set it as child of?
22:02.01Varazir[NA]okay
22:03.08JaxonAm I the only one still using vBagnon?
22:03.20Toadkilleryeah
22:03.24Toadkillerwhy would you?
22:03.52Varazir[NA]grrr where do I change so the tooltip follows my arrow and not be in the corner ?
22:05.00JaxonBecause I like it :(
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22:05.28yasuohi
22:05.50GlorianVarazir[NA] just deactivate Detailed/enhanced tooltips
22:05.55Glorianin the interface menu
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22:06.00aestili got the spell dmg/mana five ring off the second boss in ZA last night
22:06.07RaydenUnihow do guilds get on wowjutusu.com?
22:06.23Orionshockquestion - is it a bug / glitch that we now see the buffs of enemys?
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22:06.33TheKarndamn my internet fails atm
22:06.38Gloriannope thats wanted Orionshock
22:06.40GlorianJaxon I changed a long time from Vbagnon to Baggins
22:06.49TheKarnAntiarc: who's taken over sanitybags?
22:06.56GlorianJaxon same just better
22:07.03yasuosome addons are displayed with a line over it in wau, is this normal? what does it mean
22:07.06AntiarcNobody. I had a guy ask me if he could merge a few changes in and I gave the okay
22:07.13AntiarcBut he's not taken if over, AFAIK
22:07.14TheKarnah ok
22:07.26JaxonGlorian: I've tried it, I just like being able to see everything laid out and the way the categories are displayed in vBagnon is awesome for me.  I can toggle on "Trinkets" when looking for something in my bank and then turn it back off.
22:07.28TheKarni was just wondering because it had actually had changes made
22:07.33TheKarnstill needs bank support
22:08.03Glorianjaxon baggins anywhere bags does this
22:08.23CIA-403yleaf * r54715 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.toc localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua):
22:08.23CIA-4RangeDisplay:
22:08.23CIA-4-fix toc 20100 ==> 20300
22:08.23CIA-4-fix zhCN & zhTW locale
22:08.39Varazir[NA]I love arkinventory
22:09.00RaydenUniguild banks need something like ark
22:09.04CIA-403aliset * r54716 10SendSelf/SendSelf.toc:
22:09.04CIA-4SendSelf:
22:09.04CIA-4- Update the TOC, Aliset. Update the TOC, Aliset. Update the TOC, Aliset. Update the TOC, Aliset....
22:09.27yasuohttp://yasuo.de/mirror/upload/wau.jpg << what does it mean?
22:09.31Varazir[NA]Glorian Did that still in the corner ( have dissable all addons)
22:10.06Orionshockmift
22:10.25Orionshockwell my quest addon still works, after a slight hack that i didn't want to do to begin with
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22:12.22GlorianVarazir[NA] in the Built in interface options of WoW
22:12.37Philwaghmm i tested every addon, which has anything to do with my tooltip, but i cant find the addon...the error occurs, when i toggle over items in my inventory. When i toggle the items i have equipped the tooltip shows
22:12.51GlorianVarazir[NA] in the help section
22:13.19Glorianwhat tooltip Philwag
22:13.26Glorianhttp://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9789/wowscrnshot111407230142dz7.jpg <- my new pally UI
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22:14.27Philwagwhen my cursor is on an item in my bag the tooltip doesnt show and i get an error message
22:14.34PhilwagInterface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:609: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value):
22:14.34PhilwagEQL3\EQL3_Tooltip.lua:29: in function `ContainerFrameItemButton_OnEnter'
22:14.34Philwag<string>:"*:OnEnter":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnter"]:1>
22:14.37VarazirGlorian cool UI
22:14.57GlorianThanks :)
22:15.06Philwagnice ui man ;)
22:15.19AeyanEQL... extended quest log?
22:15.42Glorianwas to buggy for me EQL
22:15.53Glorianusing double Wide and the fubar quest fu
22:16.04VarazirGlorian I have un checked all of them but still same :(
22:16.11Glorianhttp://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111407222248rh9.jpg  and thats my Warlocks UI
22:16.57Philwagi do have EQL. i will try if this is my problem^
22:17.07VarazirGlorian and all the addons are working with 2.3 ? :)
22:17.53AeyanOne thing I could think of is maybe EQL is trying to scan your bag to see if the item you moused over is a quest item
22:17.55Teufelhave they updated Pitbull_Fullbar?
22:18.01AeyanAnd tossing some error
22:18.17GlorianYes like a Charm Varazir
22:18.46Philwagahh i was Extended Quest Log. Thx guys. this would be the last addon i would have checked^^
22:18.56Glorian:-)
22:19.00Teufelsb: yea the t6 resto shammy gear could be bought for free
22:19.01VarazirGlorian pm ?
22:19.07Glorianyes
22:19.14harldephinis there an Elkano present?
22:19.17sbah okay, that bug
22:19.31Paenethis new vent is...interesting
22:19.49GlorianVarazir did it work ?
22:20.11Varazirhehe now pm it's blocked
22:20.17VarazirI haven't reged me name :P
22:20.21GandharvaLOL, Zul'aman clear after 3,5h. What a boring instance...
22:20.44GandharvaBur nice new fire effects at 2 bosses
22:20.49Gandharva*but
22:21.01harldephin-.-
22:22.48JaxonTuller: ping?
22:22.56TullerJaxon: ?
22:23.08JaxonI think the Scale in Bagnon might be broke.
22:23.32Tullerexplain :)
22:23.53JaxonWhen you change the scale, then close and reopen the bags, it jumps back to 100% and the position of the display changes.
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22:24.54Tullernot able to reproduce, hrm
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22:25.11Tullerare you using something like visual themes perhaps?
22:25.30JaxonYeah, one second, let me disable that.  Forgot I was messing around with it.
22:25.51JaxonSetting scale, reloading UI saves properly.
22:26.25Tullerhrm, you're right about that
22:26.28Tullerthat's wierd :)
22:26.30Tullererr weird
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22:26.47JaxonNevermind, ignore me.  VisualThemes breaks it.
22:26.59Glorianwaiting for a proper move anything addon :-/
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22:27.49Hotphoenixis there a known bug with prat that causes it to not load any modules?
22:28.59GlorianUsing prat at the moment
22:29.02Glorianworks perfect
22:29.05EricaI've seen the same issue.... I can usually get it working after playing around with it a bit
22:29.29thulprat here too
22:29.30thulworks
22:29.57Wobinahaha
22:29.58Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QNI3W8UB-s
22:29.59Wobinwin =)
22:30.12Varazirseen a bug ( maybe a setting) when someone I have talked to logout of the game I get a chat window with his name and it's noy in the game anymore
22:32.12CIA-403jncl * r54717 10Skinner/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
22:32.12CIA-4Skinner: Skinned Buffalo (thanks to st0nedpenguin)
22:32.12CIA-4- Added option to toggle skinning of the GuildBankUI
22:32.12CIA-4- Bugfix for Cartographer, UIOptionsTooltip, Squeenix
22:32.12CIA-4- Removed all outdated pre 2.3 code and any 2.3 checks
22:32.13CIA-4- Updated ReadySpells & Ash_DoTimers to 'skin' the icons and Outfitter skins
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22:36.56TsetseBankItems needs to trank guild banks now.  o.0
22:37.00Tsetseincluding multi-guild
22:37.08CIA-403boydon * r54718 10SmartQueue/ (SmartQueue.toc embeds.xml):
22:37.08CIA-4SmartQueue:
22:37.08CIA-4- Updated toc to 2.3
22:37.08CIA-4- Attempt to fix embeds.xml to pack the addon correctly
22:41.33tinyboomPaene: any idea why my cryo2 is relocating to the right a bit every time i relog? :)
22:42.10tinyboomPaene: and something is wrong with the portal announcements i think:p says there is no spell named that :)
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22:42.46CIA-403boydon * r54719 10SmartQueue/:
22:42.46CIA-4SmartQueue:
22:42.46CIA-4- Fixed esternals
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22:43.51Paenetonyboom: How much is a little bit?  And there's no announcements in...
22:44.00CIA-403bashui * r54720 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS.lua CatPoints.lua):
22:44.00CIA-4CatPoints:
22:44.00CIA-4- Fixed the armor penetration stat.
22:44.00CIA-4- Started adding support for some weird trinkets and idols.
22:44.04Paenesounds like you spelt a spell wrong for your custom buttons
22:44.14Paeneit's caps sensitive
22:44.18PaeneI should prob change that
22:44.38cryogensomeone needs to fix ratingsbuster
22:44.44cryogento take into account the new HoTW
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22:45.52khang_man..
22:45.58khang_i just drank the nastiest shit ever
22:46.22evlurine?
22:46.31khang_some asian remedy
22:47.02NeoTrondoes any guild here happen to raid with a good balance druid (T5 geared in T6 content)?
22:48.05Aens|Superiorityughhh! they screwed up druid shifting macros
22:48.20Aens|Superioritycan't cast the shapeshift form spell to get out of that form anymore!
22:48.21PaeneTinyBoom: However, I'm taking the night/day off coding :) I haven't had a chance to set up my guild's bank yet, so I've got a bit of work to do
22:48.47Aens|SuperiorityNeoTron: we have one that is balance sometimes. Whats up?
22:49.00NeoTronjust wondering what kind of performance one should expect
22:49.11NeoTronwe had one early SSC and now again in BT/hyjal
22:49.21NeoTronI think she's underperforming based on gear and groups given
22:49.30dashkalAens: Yeah, they mentioned that in a footnote.  /cast no longer works like a toggle. (Makes me wonder how to stop firing as a hunter in a macro)
22:49.32NeoTron(she gets SP, ele shammy group to buff the shammy and 2 locks)
22:49.51Aens|Superiorityshould be respectable in a single target situation.  Needs a shadow priest.
22:50.31Aens|Superiorityrespectable as in similar to an elemental shaman or a frostbolt mage or affliction lock.
22:50.41NeoTronelemental shaman? lawl
22:50.59Aens|Superioritybut none of those specs are the best spec in that guild
22:51.15thuli like hemo
22:51.16thul:-P
22:51.17Aens|Superiorityerr, group
22:51.25NeoTronlast night in BT (up to gorefiend, first tr) our ele shammy topped DPS by quite a margain
22:51.38NeoTronwhich is a first
22:52.21NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/jrw4gpncr5hsu - ele shammy 2nd, boomkin 13th
22:52.39NeoTronsorry, meant this url: http://wowwebstats.com/jrw4gpncr5hsu?s=3721-4031
22:53.01manymh. didnt cartographer_fishing show the level of fishing per zone on the map?
22:54.25Glorianit did!
22:54.46manywhy doesnt it do anymore [for me]? :(
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22:54.57manyit just shows me instances and levels for instances
22:55.10Glorianhmm maybe configuration issue
22:55.12Glorian?
22:55.20Glorianor we wait for a fix ;)
22:55.26xyu`sdf+
22:55.32manydunno what to enable more :)
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22:55.43Glorianhave shut down wow
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22:55.49Glorianso i cant have a look
22:55.53manyokay, ill ask tomorrow again :)
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23:00.45NeoTronwonder if there's any reasonble way to measure the benefit of improved SB debuff
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23:05.10xerawxi'm sure if you wanted to get all theorycraft spreadsheet about it
23:05.19xerawxrecount pie charts and whatnot
23:05.24xerawxit could be done
23:06.06Gloriansounds like much work
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23:07.37tinyboomPaene: no rush;) was just wondering:) so happy with it that some quirks are to be expected:)
23:08.14CIA-403toadkiller * r54721 10AutoBar/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:08.14CIA-4AutoBar :
23:08.14CIA-4-- 2.03.00.28 beta ()
23:08.14CIA-4-- Move to LibPeriodicTable-3.1, some items may not make the transition, just report them again.
23:08.14CIA-4-- Moved the mining for trinkets & StartsQuest over from PeriodicTable-3.0
23:08.16CIA-4-- 34478 Tiny Spore Bat
23:08.18CIA-4-- 34062 Mana biscuits
23:08.26NightHawkTheSaneI don't suppose anyone knows a good way to pretend to have an HttpContext in vb.net if we don't actually have one. >.>
23:08.28tinyboomPaene: and it moves it's own size to the right if that makes sence:p
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23:13.17tinyboomPaene: Invalid Spelling, please check your spelling and try again, every time i zone, and all my custom buttons are correct:)
23:13.20testifyWhat's the difference between SharedMediaLib and LibSharedMedia?
23:13.55testifyAnd are both of them used by SharedMedia?
23:15.07Stanzillatestify: LibSharedMedia-2.0 is the newer one
23:16.18testifyI guessed that. Dp addons like Pitbull, EBB, ClassTimers and Omen use it yet?
23:17.02testifyDo*
23:17.24StanzillaPitBull does
23:17.27GlorianGood night
23:17.32Stanzillafor omen you can ask Antiarc
23:17.42GlorianOmen pwnz :)
23:19.11testifySo does ShardMedia support LibSharedMedia?
23:19.16*** part/#wowace Glorian (i=user@p5B0B859E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
23:19.35testifybasically I want to know what I have to load to get my minimalist style back :-D
23:20.00Stanzillawell try using SharedMedia and LibSharedMedia-2.0 and see if it works
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23:21.26Stanzillahm :/
23:21.30StanzillaFunkeh`: are you here?
23:21.59dJe781Could someone help me with conditionnal macros please ? If I type "/cast [target:SomeRandomMob] Shadow Bolt", will it cast a Shadow Bolt if my target is a mob named "SomeRandomMob" ?
23:22.01GnarfozSharedMedia only loads media files and registers them with LibSharedMedia -- SharedMedia only uses SharedMediaLib
23:22.19Gnarfozs/LibSharedMedia/SharedMediaLib/
23:22.20Stanzillayeah
23:22.25Gnarfozbut
23:22.28Stanzillabut it should use the newer lib
23:22.38Gnarfozit probably could and/or should
23:22.45sbmhh feral druid auto unshift is pretty dangerous ;p
23:22.54Gnarfozbut LibSharedMedia-2.0 might even include override functions to 'replace' SharedMediaLib if both are present
23:22.58Gnarfozdunno, ask Elkano
23:23.01Gnarfozhe's around sometimes
23:23.05Gnarfoz~seen elkano
23:23.07purlelkano <i=86603dd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-9214fd36aa7ea34d> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 37m 1s ago, saying: 'Lyn, should but as usual wont ;)'.
23:23.34StanzillaGnarfoz: well I think Funkeh` could decide that, too
23:23.47testifyWell I loaded SharedMedia and LibSharedMedia and all of the styles are recognized
23:24.18testifyBut I'm not certain if I could do without LibSharedMedia and just load SharedMedia alone
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23:24.40Gnarfoztestify: where'd you get em from?
23:24.46Stanzillayou need the files (SharedMedia) and at least one lib
23:25.05Gnarfozfiles.wowace.com, or with an updater? it's likely you're using versions that already embed/include what they need
23:25.10testifyget what from? the addons? wau
23:26.15Stanzillalocal SML = AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0") => local SML = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0");
23:26.18StanzillaI guess...
23:26.22testifyGnarfoz, right, I just want to additional styles that aren't already included with each addon
23:26.33testifyto = the
23:27.10StanzillaI'll test that now..
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23:28.32CIA-403nogudnik * r54722 10Skillet/ (6 files):
23:28.32CIA-4Skillet:
23:28.32CIA-4<PROTECTED>
23:28.44Stanzillammm^^
23:28.57Stanzillanot that easy
23:31.21Pkekyosweet, the most important officer in the guild quit because the [now retired] GM came online and made a huge brainfart in gchat because his mother [member] had called him up and bitched about not getting a spot in kara O.o
23:31.21Pkekyoe-drama everywhere
23:31.50Arrowmasterlol
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23:32.10Josh_Borkelol
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23:33.51Pkekyobasicly, the entire guild just went tits up because of a bitching 60 year old slag
23:36.34Pkekyohow does SLI graphics work?
23:36.56Stanzillafirst card's rendering the top part of the picture
23:37.00Stanzillasecond the bottom part
23:37.08Cryectthats one way
23:37.09Stanzillathat's one way
23:37.11Stanzillalol
23:37.11Cryectthough Real SLI
23:37.23CryectSLI = Scan Line Interleaving
23:37.28Wobininterlaced?
23:37.28Cryectoriginally
23:37.30Wobinyeah
23:37.50CryectOne Voodoo card does half the lines and the other the other half
23:38.10PkekyoSLI worth the investment?
23:38.11Cryectthis wasn't so great once you added T&L engines in to the video card since you had a lot of the work doubled
23:38.13CIA-403tsigo * r54723 10Postal/ (Internals/PostalLib-1.0.lua Modules/Forward.lua):
23:38.13CIA-4Postal:
23:38.13CIA-4- Fixed the IsHooked errors
23:38.13CIA-4- Fixed (I think?) a nil object error that cropped up when trying to call OpenMailPackageButtonIconTexture:SetDesaturated(nil) when no package was present in the mail
23:38.15CryectNot really
23:38.27CryectUnless you need something faster than the fastest video cards out
23:39.02Pkekyositting on a radeon 1650XT Pro or something atm >.<
23:39.40Pkekyowell, I'm broke way into next year anyways, so it doesn't really matter, I guess :p
23:40.04Cryecthaha
23:40.37Pkekyobills are stacking up on my desk...
23:40.37Pkekyothe emptiness of my bank account is mindboggling
23:40.44Cryectouch
23:41.14Pkekyomight be able to pay -half- my bills this month lol
23:42.38xerawxsli is just one of those things for when you're building a "godly" machine and budget is no consideration
23:42.45xerawxit's actually pretty overrated
23:43.17Pkekyoanyone here played Crysis btw? for some reason, I get reflections of the sun in the water, but there's no visible sun in the sky O.o
23:44.05CIA-403tsigo * r54724 10Automaton/modules/Sell.lua: Automaton: Fix the Sell module - after 2.3 it was only picking up grey items and shifting their positions in the bag.
23:44.39Pkekyosod-all, I'm off....g'nite!
23:44.39Cryectyeah I never understood why people think of SLI as being good for cheap machines when most the money they would save getting a nonSLIable motherboard would get them a much better video card
23:46.10xerawxyep you'll almost always get better performance out of the card that costs the same as two lower end ones, and won't need a ridiculous psu and cooling system either
23:48.30xerawxunless you're doing it for an uber system with absolute top of the line everything it's pretty pointless
23:48.35Cryectyep
23:49.00Cryectthen its kinda pointless since almost nothing takes advantage of it in any fashion :-p
23:50.07xerawxexactly.. but those machines are always meant to be overkill
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23:52.45CIA-403broliant * r54725 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated TOC file "Interface" value to 20300 for the release of the 2.3 client patch.
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23:53.44Cryectdamn JoshBorke make up your mind
23:53.49Cryectyou are leaving then you come back!
23:54.09CIA-403broliant * r54726 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (FuBar_RecountFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_RecountFu: Updated TOC file "Interface" value to 20300 for the release of the 2.3 client patch.
23:54.11JoshBorkei'm fickle like a woman
23:54.15JoshBorkeyou fix deathlog for me yet? ^_^
23:54.23Cryect>_>
23:54.24Cryect<_<
23:54.34CryectI got a job so I will say its a conflict of interest :-p
23:54.46JoshBorkewhat, programming for swstats? :-P
23:54.51CryectCCP Games
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23:56.06SapiensOh wow.
23:56.08CryectAnd you calling not being able to resize it broken is weird :-p now the people who showed me the weird symbols in the deathlog now thats broken
23:56.20SapiensCongrats Cryect, that must be sweet. :P
23:56.27CryectYarr
23:56.37JoshBorkeCCP Games?
23:56.39NightHawkTheSaneCryect: neat.
23:56.53CryectThey do EVE Online and starting up a new development team for World of Darkness Online
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23:57.32Paenetinyboom: For now, reset the profile...I think I know the issue
23:57.32JoshBorkeoh, ok, nifty
23:57.33JoshBorkegrats
23:57.47Cryectthanks
23:57.58NightHawkTheSanehmm,i can probably disable cart_quests now
23:58.03JoshBorkedidn't know you were looking for a job :-)
23:58.11Cryectyeah thats why I quit wow
23:58.13Cryectand vanished
23:58.21Cryectso WoW and people wouldn't distract me :-p
23:58.28JoshBorkeaye
23:58.32NightHawkTheSanewe just assumed you hated us.
23:58.33JoshBorkeso you've started?
23:58.35Cryectotherwise I would spent the last few months working on bugs
23:58.44Cryectin ~2.5 weeks
23:58.45JoshBorkei knew he could never hate me :_D
23:58.53CryectWell I hate purl
23:59.10Cryectbut love CIA-4

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