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| 00:00.26 | Wobwork | Luckily with a pallytank it wasn't -too- much of an issue =) |
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| 00:04.02 | vithos | kadrahil: interesting weapon, but a downgrade from the halberd of desolation |
| 00:05.02 | RaydenUni | how mine for fish? |
| 00:05.06 | RaydenUni | i mean... |
| 00:05.10 | RaydenUni | where should i mine for Fel Iron? |
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| 00:06.04 | CIA-4 | 03jncl * r54434 10Skinner/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:06.05 | CIA-4 | Skinner: Skinned PlayerExpBar, InsultDevice, TradeTabs |
| 00:06.05 | CIA-4 | - Updated PerlClassic, LightHeaded, beql, TourGuide skins |
| 00:06.13 | Diao | insultdevice? o_O |
| 00:07.47 | RaydenUni | just made a full circle around the portal and no fel iron |
| 00:09.01 | RaydenUni | i guess they removed it in 2.1 |
| 00:10.20 | RaydenUni | http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2570/felironhb3.jpg |
| 00:10.29 | vithos | Antiarc: i've been having a problem with omen for a while but can't figure out exactly what triggers it, so i just made a tiny video of it occuring last night. (h264 codec/no audio) http://files.filefront.com/Omen+hunter+bugavi/;9029949;/fileinfo.html |
| 00:12.40 | vithos | the first arcane shot doesn't seem to register any threat, and then my threat kinda explodes |
| 00:13.42 | vrak | which cast/AS bar is that? |
| 00:13.49 | vithos | Quartz |
| 00:17.30 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r54435 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: Partial revert nevcairiel's changes |
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| 00:24.46 | Antiarc | Bejitt: I'm testing out an API change that should expose threat values to you |
| 00:24.52 | Antiarc | Though it'll take some work to get it working for all classes. |
| 00:25.30 | CIA-4 | 03tsigo * r54436 10Cutup/Cutup.toc: Cutup: Update the TOC for 2.3 |
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| 00:28.39 | Bejitt | Antiarc: awesome, thanks |
| 00:29.26 | Antiarc | Bejitt: The way it works right now is that it's something like lib:QueryThreat(spellName, damageDoneOrRank) |
| 00:29.43 | Antiarc | That will return the effective threat for a given spell, based on the damage you expect the spell to do, or the rank of the spell |
| 00:30.39 | Antiarc | In the event of combined spells like Heroic Strike with a damage + threat component, you'd have to calculate something like threatlib:QueryThreat("Heroic Strike", 4) + ExpectedDamage * threatlib.playerModule:threatMods() |
| 00:30.50 | Antiarc | That's a bit ugly though. |
| 00:31.26 | Antiarc | Hm, I can combine that. |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r54437 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-4 | -2.3 update (toc and new recipes) |
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| 00:43.24 | Diao | is omen going to be ready in 2.3 with the combat log changes or whatever? |
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| 00:46.27 | Mecdemort | Anyone know which addon adds a /gr or /group command that automatically sends to /p /ra or /bg as necessary? |
| 00:47.35 | Shadowed | Diao thats 2.4 |
| 00:47.41 | Shadowed | that they're giving us new combat log stuff |
| 00:47.50 | Diao | oh |
| 00:47.55 | Diao | i see |
| 00:48.00 | Diao | it's prat i think Mecdemort |
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| 00:48.17 | Mecdemort | Diao: I thought prat did, but I couldnt find the module that does it. |
| 00:49.15 | vithos | Mecdemort: i was going to say prat |
| 00:50.28 | Diao | don't think it's a module |
| 00:50.30 | Diao | but i could be wrong |
| 00:51.29 | Mecdemort | I dont think prat actually does anything, it's all in the modules |
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| 00:53.14 | Diao | oh i found it |
| 00:53.20 | Diao | channelsticky module |
| 00:53.23 | Diao | under "smart groups" |
| 00:53.38 | Mecdemort | well thats not convoluted or anything, thanks |
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| 01:00.21 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r699 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:00.21 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide: |
| 01:00.21 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: - StatusFrame moved 60 pixels to the left so it doesnt go over the DurabilityFrame |
| 01:00.21 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: - Removed reminders to train levels in Night Elf starting areas |
| 01:00.21 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: - Finetuned 06_12_Teldrassil.lua quite alot |
| 01:01.03 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54438 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 01:01.03 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 01:01.03 | CIA-4 | -Added X and Y offset options for all buttons with menus |
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| 01:19.18 | Zhinjio | goddamnit I hate edge conditions. |
| 01:19.31 | Zhinjio | something is causing an error only once in every ten list deletes or so. |
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| 01:26.15 | CIA-4 | 03xyphor * r54439 10SpellDamage/ (. SpellDamage.lua SpellDamage.toc sdOptions.lua): SpellDamage: Initial upload |
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| 01:26.27 | CIA-4 | 03oridan * r54440 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.toc: |
| 01:26.27 | CIA-4 | SpellReminder: |
| 01:26.27 | CIA-4 | - Update TOC for 2.3 |
| 01:27.21 | Comxx | ~seen nogudnik |
| 01:27.24 | purl | nogudnik <n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 5h 33m 20s ago, saying: 'RaydenUni: right, I do this all the time with patches'. |
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| 01:28.33 | Gnarfoz | when are US servers due to go down for 2.3? |
| 01:28.41 | dylanm | Same time as always, I think. |
| 01:29.49 | Gnarfoz | and I dunno what time that is, because I play on EU :-) |
| 01:30.11 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r54441 10Incubator/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 01:30.11 | CIA-4 | Incubator: |
| 01:30.11 | CIA-4 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 01:30.51 | [dRaCo] | 0200 on 11/13/07, just gotta figure out the right time zone :þ |
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| 02:21.39 | CIA-4 | GridStatusMissingBuffs : |
| 02:21.40 | CIA-4 | - Updated localization zhTW |
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| 02:27.56 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54443 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 02:27.56 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 02:27.56 | CIA-4 | -Fixed food/water trading for good this time! |
| 02:31.08 | Toadkiller | Im confused, is there some kind of non conjured water that u can drink in an arena? |
| 02:31.47 | aestil | yes |
| 02:31.52 | aestil | you buy it with honor |
| 02:31.56 | Toadkiller | ah crap |
| 02:32.54 | Bejitt | phyber: ping |
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| 02:50.07 | aestil | our B team raid cleared all of SSC but vashj [made 5 attempts on her] so we get a free vashj kill, and like 5 or 6 more people attuned. |
| 02:55.02 | kenlyric | that's a big ass guild |
| 02:55.11 | kenlyric | if you have a B team for real raids. |
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| 02:57.07 | ulic | probably alts and such |
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| 03:03.31 | Paene | Anyone familiar with CandyBar-2.0? |
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| 03:06.25 | Dameek | Anyone familar with editing chatframe size? |
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| 03:10.16 | Fin | huh, weird |
| 03:10.30 | Fin | I'm getting a corrupted arrow in Cartographer when I try and set a waypoint |
| 03:13.21 | Wobwork | open and close the main map |
| 03:13.29 | Wobwork | where are you? |
| 03:14.59 | sylvanaar | assassins creed tomorrow? anyone getting it? |
| 03:15.00 | Fin | I've completely restarted the game |
| 03:15.01 | Fin | Silverpine |
| 03:18.51 | Fin | posted details: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5060 |
| 03:19.37 | Fin | fuck I'm completely shafted |
| 03:19.41 | Fin | I rely on waypoints so much |
| 03:20.09 | Toadkiller | the add for assissins creed looked totally retarded |
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| 03:22.42 | Wobwork | Fin: what waypoint are you trying to set? |
| 03:25.01 | Fin | well, the first one was to Duskwither Spire |
| 03:25.13 | Fin | oh, wait, it works if I do /way 1 1 |
| 03:25.23 | Fin | then I can move it to the end of the queue |
| 03:25.28 | Fin | and it's not corrupt anymore |
| 03:25.44 | Fin | I hadn't visited this place before, btw |
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| 03:27.05 | Erica | Hi... can anyone tell me if there's a way to disable the main castbar in InFlight so I can only have the quartz bar? |
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| 03:30.41 | Ellipsis | Erica: there isn't without editing the lua, and the author doesn't plan to allow it |
| 03:31.03 | Ellipsis | most people either disable the Quartz bar and use InFlight's, or just switch to ToFu |
| 03:31.14 | Erica | ok thanks |
| 03:33.42 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:33.43 | Wobwork | American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast USS Kitty Hawk. By the time it surfaced, the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine had sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier. The incident caused consternation in the US Navy, which had no idea China's fast-growing submarine flee |
| 03:35.27 | Xuerian | haha |
| 03:35.31 | Xuerian | we got pwned :( |
| 03:36.32 | Corgan | rest of article? :o |
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| 03:41.33 | Wobwork | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=492804&in_page_id=1811 |
| 03:44.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: damn you for pinging me with that |
| 03:47.27 | Wobwork | ? |
| 03:47.31 | Wobwork | oh |
| 03:47.34 | Wobwork | Kitty Hawk =P |
| 03:47.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yes :P |
| 03:47.57 | NightHawkTheSane | anything with 'Hawk' pings me |
| 03:48.09 | NightHawkTheSane | as will anything with nighthawk, nhts, jon, or jonathan, actually. >.> |
| 03:48.23 | NightHawkTheSane | which makes it very disconcerting when people talk about other people like Jon Stewart |
| 03:48.41 | Wobwork | Heya Jonno |
| 03:48.45 | NightHawkTheSane | that doesn't |
| 03:48.57 | NightHawkTheSane | that does, however, incite me to fly to your house and kick your ass. |
| 03:52.48 | Wobwork | That's a long flight |
| 03:53.01 | Wobwork | I hope you can afford it =) |
| 03:53.11 | Wobwork | I'll buy you a beer if you do turn up =) |
| 03:53.34 | Wobwork | Take you down to the local and call you "Nighty" |
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| 03:58.08 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54445 10AlchemyList/: AlchemyList: Created folder remotely |
| 03:58.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: you'd still do that after i flew all the way to kick your ass? nice. :D |
| 03:59.22 | Aens|Superiority | Illidan down! woot |
| 03:59.31 | Diao | grats |
| 04:00.00 | CIA-4 | 03apal * r54446 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 04:00.00 | CIA-4 | Recount: |
| 04:00.00 | CIA-4 | - Fixed crashed koKR locale. |
| 04:00.02 | Wobwork | well the kicking of arse would be debatable |
| 04:00.08 | Wobwork | since you'd have to get into the building =) |
| 04:00.13 | Wobwork | and then past security |
| 04:00.26 | Wobwork | and break down the fire door to climb the stairs cause the lifts are secured |
| 04:00.32 | Wobwork | and then break down my door |
| 04:00.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I think if i'm going to spend money on a flight halfway around the world, a little breaking and entering isn't so much trouble |
| 04:00.51 | Wobwork | by which time you'd probably eat a escrima stick in the face. |
| 04:01.00 | Wobwork | But after all that effort |
| 04:01.10 | Wobwork | How could I -not- take you down to the pub for a drink? |
| 04:01.17 | RaydenUni | 2.3 patch finalized anyone know? |
| 04:01.27 | Wobwork | Sure, you'd probaby have to drink through a tube. |
| 04:01.35 | Wobwork | But, I'd admire that =) |
| 04:01.46 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
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| 04:10.14 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54447 10AlchemyList/ (AlchemyList.lua AlchemyList.toc): AlchemyList: initial checkin |
| 04:11.07 | boardstar | im new to the wow api world .. i was wondering if someone could answer a couple questions for me |
| 04:11.34 | Bejitt | ~ATA |
| 04:11.35 | purl | ata is, like, Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 04:11.37 | Bejitt | hm |
| 04:11.40 | Wobwork | ~asktoask |
| 04:11.41 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 04:11.42 | Bejitt | no, bad purl |
| 04:11.45 | Bejitt | ty wob |
| 04:11.55 | Wobwork | although purl lies a bit |
| 04:12.01 | Wobwork | in the 'glad to help' =P |
| 04:12.07 | Wobwork | but ask anyway =) |
| 04:12.44 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54448 10AlchemyList/locales/ (. locale-enUS.lua): AlchemyList: initial checkin |
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| 04:13.38 | boardstar | ^_^ sounds good, is there any way to initiate a conversation with an NPC (quest giver or not) short of manually clicking the right mouse button ? |
| 04:13.45 | Wobwork | nope |
| 04:14.07 | Wobwork | interaction with the 3d world requires hardware events |
| 04:14.28 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54449 10AlchemyList/: AlchemyList: svn properties updated |
| 04:14.31 | boardstar | yeah i know they changed the hooks post 2.0+ ish |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-4 | 03siz * r54450 10FuBar_AmmoFu/ (AmmoFu.lua FuBar_AmmoFu.toc): |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-4 | FuBar_AmmoFu: |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-4 | - Use embeds.xml |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-4 | - Use NUM_BAG_SLOTS instead of 4 |
| 04:14.45 | CIA-4 | - Some possible performance tweaks |
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| 04:18.41 | Paene | Anyway to adjust the width of a CandyBar timer bar? |
| 04:18.47 | Paene | *Any way |
| 04:19.30 | Paene | nvm |
| 04:19.32 | Paene | think I found it |
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| 04:21.44 | boardstar | just wanted to follow up with my question.. i really was looking to setup a macro or short LUA to target and interact with an npc.. which of course required a hardware event.. or am i thinking incorrectly |
| 04:21.58 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54451 10AlchemyList/ (AlchemyList.lua AlchemyList.toc locales/locale-enUS.lua): AlchemyList: added keywords:Date Rev |
| 04:22.24 | Wobwork | to do what? |
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| 04:23.02 | Ellipsis | you can do the targeting in a macro with /target |
| 04:23.13 | Ellipsis | but you still have to right click the 3D model to interact with them |
| 04:23.15 | boardstar | yes, but not interact.. |
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| 04:23.38 | Wobwork | well, what are you actually trying to do? |
| 04:24.14 | boardstar | ah i see, no way around that then.. ellipsis nailed it.. was trying to setup a quest helper |
| 04:24.28 | Wobwork | for like daily quests? |
| 04:26.18 | Wobwork | or handins |
| 04:26.18 | Wobwork | ? |
| 04:26.19 | Wobwork | There are plenty of small addons that do that |
| 04:26.19 | Wobwork | autoaccepting the quests/handins |
| 04:26.19 | Wobwork | You'd still have to click on the npc, but it'd do the rest |
| 04:26.22 | boardstar | ive had problems with some of the ones ive tried latley.. most somehow use some messy code and the blizard api disables them after some use |
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| 04:35.10 | Hell-Razor | im still trying to find a good light weight simple and uses the least ammount of screen space--- this type of ui |
| 04:35.31 | Jaxon | So I guess no one is maintaining PT3Bar anymore? |
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| 04:36.37 | `Zypher | i need a good dot timer =/ |
| 04:36.52 | Jaxon | Chronometer? |
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| 04:45.21 | vithos | there's tons of dot timer addons |
| 04:45.48 | vithos | classtimers, sorren's timers, chronometer, quartz |
| 04:45.50 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54452 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.toc Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 04:45.50 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 04:45.50 | CIA-4 | -Setup anchor frame for spell timers |
| 04:45.50 | CIA-4 | -Added the option to show/hide the spell timer frame |
| 04:45.50 | CIA-4 | -Added the option to lock the spell timer frame in place |
| 04:45.51 | CIA-4 | -Added library support for spell timers |
| 04:45.58 | Hell-Razor | any suggestions for a good casting timer and mage addons |
| 04:46.36 | Aeyan | Quartz is an excellent casting bar replacement and GCD monitor, if that's what you need |
| 04:46.55 | `Zypher | http://www.stein-ivar.net/i/WoWScrnShot_061907_013936.jpg trying to figure out what dot timer that is |
| 04:47.15 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54453 10Cryolysis2/: |
| 04:47.15 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 04:47.15 | CIA-4 | -Touch for external properties |
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| 04:47.27 | Aeyan | And yeah, for DoT timers, chrono and sorren use chatlog parsing so they can track multiple mobs, while quartz and classtimers use API so are more accurate |
| 04:47.32 | Diao | looks like chronometer |
| 04:47.33 | Xuerian | Curator is not going well. |
| 04:47.59 | `Zypher | since when does chrono show timers outside the bar? |
| 04:48.08 | Paene | Hell-Razor: Cryolysis 2 is a good mage addon :) |
| 04:48.11 | Aeyan | Yeah, looks like chrono I think |
| 04:48.23 | vithos | the blue timers look like Natur Enemy Castbars i think |
| 04:48.25 | Aeyan | Oh, wait |
| 04:48.39 | Aeyan | I was looking at the center thing |
| 04:48.39 | CIA-4 | 03loganfive * r54454 10AlchemyList/: AlchemyList: added externals |
| 04:48.49 | `Zypher | one is oCD |
| 04:48.52 | `Zypher | the cooldown |
| 04:48.53 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 04:48.54 | `Zypher | is oCD |
| 04:49.00 | `Zypher | im talking about the timers |
| 04:49.04 | `Zypher | the longer bars |
| 04:49.31 | Aeyan | I've never used Sorren's, but it might be that. |
| 04:49.42 | vithos | i use sorren's, and it doesn't look like it |
| 04:49.44 | `Zypher | ive used sorrens aswell |
| 04:49.52 | Paene | were the ace libraries updated to the interface # for 2.3? |
| 04:50.01 | Aeyan | Not yet |
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| 04:50.21 | Paene | odd, when I tried to commit, I think it updated all the Libs I had |
| 04:50.28 | Paene | well |
| 04:50.32 | Paene | it errored at me |
| 04:50.37 | Paene | and said to run svn update |
| 04:51.05 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: i cant find an example of GCD monitor |
| 04:51.16 | Aeyan | Hmm |
| 04:51.22 | Hell-Razor | Paene: ah that is nice... somebody needs to add that in with autobar |
| 04:51.22 | Aeyan | Lemme check my stuff |
| 04:51.34 | Hell-Razor | i LOVE autobar |
| 04:52.29 | Hell-Razor | whoever thought that up is a fuckin genius |
| 04:52.36 | Paene | What do you mean add it in with autobar? |
| 04:52.37 | Paene | lol |
| 04:52.59 | Hell-Razor | like theres a spot on it that you go over and it will show you were you can tele and port |
| 04:53.19 | Paene | ah, the portal menu :) |
| 04:53.34 | Hell-Razor | they should do the same for armors and whatnot |
| 04:53.49 | Paene | open the buff menu :) |
| 04:53.55 | Hell-Razor | would save a lot of space seeing as im trying my best to keep the least ammount of shit on my screen as possible |
| 04:53.56 | Paene | it's the wand icon one |
| 04:54.32 | Hell-Razor | i want it all at my fingertips though =) |
| 04:54.46 | Paene | what do you mean? |
| 04:55.06 | Hell-Razor | like with the autobar you just hover over the food and you see all types of food and what you can make |
| 04:55.23 | Paene | ah ic |
| 04:55.44 | Paene | Well, Cryolysis 2 will save you a lot of actionbar space nonetheless |
| 04:55.57 | Paene | make sure you get Cryolysis 2 and not Cryolysis |
| 04:56.25 | Paene | you can hide the buttons you don't want to use |
| 04:56.29 | Hell-Razor | yea as soon as my... uh ... thing finishes and i start playing it on my machine again ill get it |
| 04:56.41 | Paene | lol cool |
| 04:56.54 | Paene | let me know what you think, I'm always looking to improve it |
| 04:57.10 | Hell-Razor | are you the dev? |
| 04:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "Her spirit chose to talk to you. It never talked to me, and I couldn't get her to shut up when she was alive." |
| 04:57.24 | Hell-Razor | lol |
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| 04:58.23 | Hell-Razor | Paene: you the dev? |
| 04:59.08 | Aeyan | Hell-Razor, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/gcd.jpg |
| 04:59.17 | Aeyan | The GCD timer is the little bar under my cast bar |
| 04:59.37 | Hell-Razor | oh that has the light in it |
| 05:00.01 | Hell-Razor | nice dude what ui is that |
| 05:00.13 | Paene | Hell-Razor: yep :) |
| 05:00.35 | Hell-Razor | Paene: alright man ill be sure to check it out... i wish i could figure out how to make something like that |
| 05:00.44 | Aeyan | Aeyan UI =P |
| 05:01.05 | Paene | Hell-Razor: If you have any programming experience, it's really not that hard |
| 05:01.23 | Hell-Razor | Paene: the only problem is that i use linux and not windows... so a lot of the dev things dont work |
| 05:01.41 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: ah nice... that looks sweet |
| 05:01.48 | Aeyan | Thank you |
| 05:02.08 | Paene | I use a standard UTF-8 compliant text editor (there's a bunch for linux), wowace's libraries, and the WoW API |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-4 | 03siz * r54455 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc): |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-4 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-4 | - Update TOC to 20300 before the rush |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-4 | - Fix for when addons send nil message bodies (Examiner does this) |
| 05:02.12 | Paene | not much else u need |
| 05:02.19 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 05:02.40 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: this is what i have been looking for for the most part |
| 05:02.57 | Aeyan | Awesome |
| 05:03.03 | Paene | no compiler involved or anything like that...just write some code, load up WoW and get your errors :) |
| 05:03.11 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 05:03.19 | Hell-Razor | i thought there was some compiling prog you needed |
| 05:03.25 | Paene | nope |
| 05:03.57 | Paene | What linux distro do you use? |
| 05:04.01 | Hell-Razor | Paene: gentoo |
| 05:04.11 | Paene | :) I used to use gentoo |
| 05:04.15 | Hell-Razor | nice |
| 05:04.23 | kenlyric | stage 1? |
| 05:04.25 | Hell-Razor | i was a dev for a while but stopped because i had no time |
| 05:04.26 | Paene | I use Kubuntu now whenever I run linux |
| 05:04.29 | Hell-Razor | kenlyric: yup |
| 05:04.30 | Hell-Razor | ewww |
| 05:04.31 | kenlyric | it's not real if you aren't stage 1 |
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| 05:05.05 | Paene | my laptop that I had Gentoo on was not very friendly with it |
| 05:05.09 | kenlyric | so, what's so special about ubuntu over some like mandrr... whatever the hell it's called, or red hat. |
| 05:05.19 | kenlyric | gentoo is just not very friendly :) |
| 05:05.25 | kenlyric | good for security, not friendly |
| 05:05.27 | Paene | lol, very true |
| 05:05.31 | Hell-Razor | you have to know how to work it to your needs kenlyric and Paene |
| 05:05.41 | Hell-Razor | i have wow running just as good if not better than i can in doze |
| 05:05.42 | Paene | Ubunutu is very very friendly |
| 05:05.59 | Paene | installed it and everything worked with the exception of 3D video |
| 05:06.06 | Paene | and that just required the nvidia drivers |
| 05:06.12 | Hell-Razor | yea but i dont want to start a distro war thing |
| 05:06.13 | Hell-Razor | esp here |
| 05:06.31 | Paene | meh, it wouldn't be the first war in this channel |
| 05:06.35 | kenlyric | yeah, not interested in a war... just wondering why ubuntu seems to have suddenly taken off. |
| 05:06.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think i've ever seen a distro war here |
| 05:06.40 | kenlyric | considering what a joke it was when it came out. |
| 05:06.42 | NightHawkTheSane | OS-war, sure, framework war, sure... |
| 05:06.45 | kenlyric | Linux for Naked People! |
| 05:06.50 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: is it possible to add more bars at the bottom |
| 05:07.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: it's because they've gone to great strides to make it much more user friendly, essentially. |
| 05:07.02 | Hell-Razor | kenlyric: ha |
| 05:07.09 | Aeyan | What bars? |
| 05:07.09 | kenlyric | the next time I foolishly switch to linux, it will probably be *ubuntu |
| 05:07.14 | Aeyan | Quartz or my action bars? |
| 05:07.17 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: action |
| 05:07.21 | Aeyan | Oh, yeah |
| 05:07.26 | Aeyan | That's just how I have em set up |
| 05:07.30 | kenlyric | then i'll cry about only half my games working in wine, and switch back. |
| 05:07.32 | Aeyan | I use Bongos2 for it |
| 05:07.34 | Paene | kenlyric: You like Gnome or KDE better? |
| 05:07.44 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: is it all compiled together? |
| 05:07.53 | Hell-Razor | i would assume |
| 05:07.59 | Aeyan | No, I was just making a joke |
| 05:08.00 | kenlyric | I honestly don't care. I'm used to either enough. |
| 05:08.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: dual booting ftw? |
| 05:08.09 | Hell-Razor | lame |
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| 05:08.42 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but then, just why bother? |
| 05:08.42 | Aeyan | I don't have anything uploaded anywhere, it's just what I've thrown together |
| 05:08.42 | many | gnome vs kde is asking for another religious war |
| 05:08.42 | Paene | just curious, Ubuntu is the Gnome based one, Kubuntu is the KDE based one |
| 05:08.42 | many | if you want ubuntu, gnome has alot of advantages |
| 05:08.42 | Aeyan | Just eepanels and a mish-mash of mods |
| 05:08.42 | Paene | same kernel and such tho |
| 05:08.42 | Hell-Razor | i havent used doze in about eight years now and im only 20 |
| 05:08.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: because you want to play games, but dont want to use windows for anything else? *shrug* |
| 05:08.45 | many | kde/kubuntu is always lagging behind gnome/ubuntu |
| 05:09.17 | c0rnflake | hey guys. i seem to have lost nethercite ore deposits on cartographer. i just grabbed cartographer_data and noticed there's not entries there either. is that an oversight or did i muck something up? |
| 05:09.35 | Hell-Razor | mandrill: ubuntu seems to be more... noob friendly.. if you dont want to use doze but dont want to use true linux you go to ubuntu |
| 05:10.10 | Paene | c0rnflake: make sure the module is enabled (if it is one)...the author may have updated the interface number in the toc already |
| 05:10.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ubuntu's as linux as anything else |
| 05:10.40 | kenlyric | I think the only reason I ever want to switch to linux is so I can be cool like the other kids. |
| 05:10.48 | Paene | lol |
| 05:11.00 | kenlyric | so I don't have the proper enthusiasm. |
| 05:11.02 | Paene | I have a friend who's crazy good with Gentoo |
| 05:11.06 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: no, cool kids switch to mac |
| 05:11.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 05:11.13 | kenlyric | not poor cool kids |
| 05:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 05:11.22 | Paene | I've been thinking about getting a macbook |
| 05:11.28 | Paene | the 13" one |
| 05:11.32 | kenlyric | and, if I'm worried about game support in linux, mac is not for me :) |
| 05:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: once again, dual boot ;) |
| 05:11.49 | Paene | Mac has better WoW game support :( |
| 05:11.52 | Paene | than Windows |
| 05:11.53 | Paene | lol |
| 05:11.56 | many | gentoo, pft. |
| 05:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: eh? |
| 05:12.06 | kenlyric | I suffer from the fact that legal copies of windows are free for me. |
| 05:12.11 | Paene | all the special features |
| 05:12.24 | Paene | screen capturing built-in, itunes integration |
| 05:12.29 | kenlyric | if that ever changed, I'd have the fire for zealotry. |
| 05:12.35 | xerawx | those features are pretty useless really |
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| 05:12.41 | xerawx | and it runs worse on the mac |
| 05:12.42 | kenlyric | sure, if you just play that one game. |
| 05:13.02 | xerawx | and sure you can dual boot but who really wants to run 3 different OSes on a laptop |
| 05:13.06 | Paene | lol |
| 05:13.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: those features are basically fluff, and the graphics drivers are superior on windows |
| 05:13.08 | kenlyric | see, distro war failed, os war succeeded! :) |
| 05:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: like i said ;) |
| 05:13.53 | Paene | NightHawkTheSane: Hopefully that'll change as Apple starts to become more like non-mac PC's |
| 05:14.00 | Paene | that was worded really badly |
| 05:14.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: in what way? |
| 05:14.04 | Paene | but you understand what I mean |
| 05:14.13 | Paene | or not :) |
| 05:14.13 | Paene | lol |
| 05:14.20 | Bejitt | what's a good way to get a classes icon from the classname? |
| 05:14.22 | Hell-Razor | many: why pft |
| 05:14.22 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i mean, modern macs are basically the same hardware as modern pcs |
| 05:14.35 | Paene | They've recently started switching off of their exclusive parts that you can only get from Apple |
| 05:14.38 | xerawx | which makes it even more ridiculous that they charge basically twice as much for them |
| 05:14.58 | kenlyric | now, dual boot mac/pc would be ok, except for the poor thing. |
| 05:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: its not really that recently.... |
| 05:15.27 | many | Hell-Razor: there are people who want to USE a computer, not self-compile it all day. |
| 05:15.33 | Paene | NightHawkTheSane: Within the past few years |
| 05:15.39 | Paene | so not super recent |
| 05:15.42 | Paene | but recent enough |
| 05:16.01 | many | besides, if you look at the forums, 90% of all gentoo users are just fscking retards. they have no clue what theyre doing, but theyre good at showing that fact off |
| 05:16.03 | kenlyric | over 365 days is ancient history. |
| 05:16.06 | Hell-Razor | many: true true but theres a point where you want to be able to twak it so much that you have to... and gentoo requires a good cpu.... well not require but if you dont want to compile all day it does |
| 05:16.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: well, the major parts upgradeable (ram, hdd, optical, floppy, gfx card) have all been basically the same as pc parts |
| 05:16.17 | kenlyric | i just hit emerge sync and hope for the best. |
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| 05:16.24 | NightHawkTheSane | the only significant difference was the processor and mobo, really |
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| 05:16.46 | Hell-Razor | many: there are a lot of noobs out there yes but the other % of us know what were doing help improve the community help improve things that rely on devs |
| 05:16.54 | Paene | NightHawk: The biggest switch that I can recall was the switch off Motorola processors to Intel processors |
| 05:17.14 | kenlyric | ancient history. |
| 05:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: right, thats the only major hardware change they've made recently |
| 05:17.20 | kenlyric | only the aged remember PPC |
| 05:17.28 | Paene | lol |
| 05:17.48 | Paene | meh, imo, Macs are getting better and PC's are getting worse |
| 05:17.59 | Paene | they just haven't balanced out yet |
| 05:18.03 | many | aha ;) |
| 05:18.07 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i'm not going to even touch that argument |
| 05:18.14 | Paene | lol |
| 05:18.23 | Hell-Razor | i want a mac just because they look cool |
| 05:18.29 | Hell-Razor | and then install gentoo on it |
| 05:18.33 | Paene | lol |
| 05:18.36 | kenlyric | they're both getting worse as they get run over by the DMCA |
| 05:18.44 | Paene | I want a Mac because I can't play games on it in class :) |
| 05:18.45 | Hell-Razor | ymca? kenlyric ? |
| 05:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: what? |
| 05:19.20 | kenlyric | their increasingly draconian copyright measures. |
| 05:19.59 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i'm not going to claim anything about microsoft, but can you explain how apple's copyright measures have become increasingly draconian? |
| 05:20.30 | dreamss | lol |
| 05:23.04 | Paene | and the channel goes quiet |
| 05:23.04 | Paene | lol |
| 05:23.18 | kenlyric | yeah, I can't find anything. I withdraw my "increasing" charge from apple. |
| 05:23.53 | kenlyric | it's still there! |
| 05:24.01 | kenlyric | regions, and junk! |
| 05:24.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: heh. :) I was honestly just curious if you had heard/seen something that I hadn't :P |
| 05:30.08 | Paene | Quick question: BINDING_NAME_CLICK tFrame:RightButton How would I change that to shift+rightbutton? Anyone know offhand? |
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| 05:37.09 | kenlyric | are there any hd video formats for computer, or would I just want to rip to like avi with just a very large resolution? |
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| 05:39.45 | Paene | pretty sure there's HD encoding |
| 05:39.49 | Paene | my roommate does it |
| 05:40.16 | kenlyric | the great abortion of electronic content protection is that it's never worked, not once, for the past 25 |
| 05:40.26 | kenlyric | 25+ years it's been around. |
| 05:40.54 | kenlyric | I really do think those guys sit down and say "you know what, this is our year!" |
| 05:40.58 | MentalPower|AFK | MPEG-4 is good for HD content |
| 05:41.14 | kenlyric | the plain one or the quicktime one? |
| 05:41.14 | Zhinjio | computer resolutions are much greater than tv encodings, generally, so even low end avi encoding is generally better resolution than what TV produces. is all about the capture program to ensure you're maintaining the 1080i or p thats coming in that gives you your quality |
| 05:42.38 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: h.264? |
| 05:42.44 | NightHawkTheSane | which is basiclaly mpeg-4, as MentalPower|AFK noted |
| 05:43.39 | MentalPower|AFK | MPEG-4 == H.264 == NewQuicktime == a bunch of other formats |
| 05:44.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, more or less. |
| 05:44.42 | Antiarc | Anetheron down. Lulz. |
| 05:45.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yeesh, burning through bt, eh |
| 05:45.39 | Antiarc | Anetheron is Hyjal >_> |
| 05:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | is it? |
| 05:45.43 | Antiarc | But we got Teron Gorefiend last night |
| 05:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | well, uh, grats |
| 05:45.57 | kenlyric | this seems kinda nice for the lazy http://www.dvdfab.com/ |
| 05:47.58 | Silowyi | kenlyric: Gordian Knot is a good open source package for dvd-ing... at least it was 2 or 3 years back, haven't played with it of late. |
| 05:48.54 | kenlyric | nearly everything from videohelp.com is good, it's just not for the lazy :) |
| 05:48.57 | Silowyi | Looks like it hasn't updated since 2004 so probably not. |
| 05:49.24 | Silowyi | meh |
| 05:49.54 | Silowyi | just get 1. a computer with windows media center (or a PS3, or an xbox 360) and 2. a DVI to HDMI cable. |
| 05:50.14 | Silowyi | viola, PC video on the tv in high def! |
| 05:50.32 | kenlyric | gotta make the pc video first. |
| 05:50.41 | kenlyric | that's the step i'm sitting at right now :) |
| 05:50.44 | Silowyi | ah |
| 05:51.02 | Silowyi | this is what happens when I don't catch the start of a conversation |
| 05:51.21 | Silowyi | hey, long shot, any of you guys from Japan/Korea/China and play Baduk/Go/Weiqi? |
| 05:52.01 | Silowyi | Preferably 17-14kyu |
| 05:53.46 | kenlyric | looking to make my media more versatile than the dvd offers, and more durable, and not pick a format I'm going to hate in six months. |
| 05:55.02 | CIA-4 | 03chuanhsing * r54456 10BigWigs/ (14 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 05:55.25 | Jagobah | our guild finally killed illidan tonight <_< |
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| 05:56.01 | Killmore | samething for us |
| 05:56.03 | Killmore | ! |
| 05:56.07 | Killmore | Jagobah: grats ! |
| 05:56.13 | kenlyric | 3-11. |
| 05:56.17 | kenlyric | gogopatch |
| 05:58.43 | Jagobah | main hand warglaive :D |
| 05:59.02 | Keias | lucky ass |
| 05:59.07 | Keias | grats though |
| 06:01.41 | NightHawkTheSane | god jewel staite is such a bitch in wonderfalls. >< |
| 06:02.20 | Jagobah | main hand and the ownage caster staff |
| 06:02.28 | Jagobah | It was a great kill |
| 06:03.30 | kenlyric | heh. |
| 06:03.56 | kenlyric | I convinced my wife of the name Kaylee. tiny geek victory. |
| 06:04.28 | ulic | shiny |
| 06:05.28 | kenlyric | I could never convince her of elanor, which was to be my deeper geek victory. |
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| 06:08.16 | Paene | ALL HAIL KAELTEN |
| 06:08.18 | Paene | I mean |
| 06:08.19 | Paene | hi |
| 06:08.24 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:08.27 | Kaelten | hi |
| 06:08.34 | Paene | ready for patch day? |
| 06:08.50 | Kaelten | if you where in my position could you be ready |
| 06:08.57 | Paene | I'm sure it's your favorite kind of day :) |
| 06:08.58 | Paene | lol |
| 06:09.01 | Paene | probably not |
| 06:09.24 | Kaelten | I run wowace and I'm responsible for keeping curse.com up |
| 06:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: that depends, is your position with your hands over your ears, a blanket over your head, and singing at the top of your lungs very loudly? |
| 06:09.38 | Paene | lol |
| 06:09.41 | Kaelten | heh |
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| 06:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | cause then, i would totally be ready like that. |
| 06:10.27 | Paene | So you get to stay up all night watching the servers eh? |
| 06:10.33 | Paene | hope you're getting paid :-p |
| 06:10.46 | Kaelten | ya, I'm basically on duty for 3 days |
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| 06:11.41 | Paene | Wonder if I should update my toc now so I don't have to worry about it before class tomorrow |
| 06:11.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: my sympathies >< |
| 06:11.58 | Paene | doubt many more people are gonna update before the servers go down |
| 06:12.26 | NightHawkTheSane | then again, i imagine blizz staff is going to have at least a hard time as well |
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| 06:12.58 | Paene | blizz staff prob gets paid better :) |
| 06:13.21 | Paene | and has more than one person doing the job |
| 06:13.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno, hard to say how well blizz pays :P |
| 06:13.30 | Paene | lol |
| 06:13.35 | Paene | I hear they pay well |
| 06:13.57 | Paene | and because of that...you have to be very smart and very good at what you do to work for them |
| 06:14.36 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the latter is arguably the high demand for jobs. |
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| 06:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | with high profile companies like that, you attract a lot of talent just by virtue of your name, so you can be pretty damn choosy |
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| 06:18.56 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r54457 10Hemlock/Hemlock.lua: Hemlock: Remove Blinding Powder from the poisons list. |
| 06:21.20 | Paene | Interesting...is parsing the combat log the only way to detect when a debuff is removed from an enemy? |
| 06:22.31 | Antiarc | Yes |
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| 06:23.35 | Paene | :-/ how hard is parsing the combat log? lol |
| 06:23.41 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.44 | Kaelten | it'll be a lot saner |
| 06:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | if you use something like parserlib it'd be pretty easy |
| 06:24.47 | Paene | just need a way to detect if a debuff breaks early (polymorph, frost nova, etc.) |
| 06:25.00 | Paene | on the enemy that is |
| 06:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | man, wonderfalls was good, why did fox have to cancel it. >< |
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| 06:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, http://valleywag.com/tech/breakdowns/truck-driver-in-texas-kills-all-the-websites-you-really-use-321881.php |
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| 06:36.11 | Codayus | Trying to track down the total number of epics per clear in ZA, and the total number of badges per clear in ZA and Kara. Anyone know offhand? |
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| 06:36.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: I think bosses drop 2 badges each in kara, but I'm not absolutely certain >< |
| 06:38.00 | Orionshock | why would they? |
| 06:38.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: mmo-champion says that a full ZA clear nets 14 badges from a full clear. Not including the 10 you can get from a quest item |
| 06:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | (thats with each boss dropping 2 and Malacrass and Zul'jin dropping 3) |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-4 | 03starlon * r54458 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.toc: |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-4 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 06:38.22 | CIA-4 | - Update toc for 2.3 |
| 06:38.40 | Codayus | Yes, but I know the bear boss drops 1. Or does the times bonus chest have 1 as well? |
| 06:39.20 | CIA-4 | 03starlon * r54459 10FuryBars/FuryBars.toc: |
| 06:39.20 | CIA-4 | FuryBars: |
| 06:39.20 | CIA-4 | - Update toc for 2.3 |
| 06:39.33 | Codayus | Orionshock: Blue said something about Kara having "around twice" the badges of ZA. Who knows what THAT means. |
| 06:39.52 | Codayus | "Karazhan and Zul'Aman will both give badges with the 2.3 patch, and you can get at least 10 from each of those. However, we believe that it will be possible to get almost double that amount from Karazhan." |
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| 06:40.31 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if za will give 14 fom a full clear, and kara has.. 10 bosses + chess, so that's 22 badges |
| 06:40.43 | NightHawkTheSane | so yeah, almost double |
| 06:41.00 | Codayus | Hm, I'd kinda expect 3 from Prince at least, to match the pattern. |
| 06:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | (assuming 2 badges per boss, and since they note 2 badges will drop for each player from the chess event, that's a good guess) |
| 06:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: possibly, i've yet to dig up anything that says either way, so i'm being conservative on my guess. |
| 06:41.51 | Codayus | So probably...22 minimum, maybe 23 or 24 if Prince and/or Nightbane drop 3. |
| 06:42.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 06:42.35 | Codayus | Epics in ZA? 1 per primal god I know, and 1 in the chest, so 4-8 from them. How many do the Hex lord and Zul'jin drop? 2 each? |
| 06:43.00 | Diao | anyone understand why blizzard changed bloodrage to not put warriors in combat? |
| 06:43.02 | Diao | i don't understand :( |
| 06:43.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: i imagine to stop possible exploits of getting into combat and staying there to gain/maintain rage |
| 06:43.50 | Diao | but |
| 06:43.52 | Diao | it really nerfs warrior pvp |
| 06:43.55 | Diao | i just got chain sapped by a rogue |
| 06:43.59 | Diao | because i couldn't bloodrage in between |
| 06:44.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just guessing, i don't know. |
| 06:44.29 | Bejitt | Diao: it's also a pain in the ass when people are buffing you and need to drink after |
| 06:44.40 | Diao | i tried to bloodrage in between saps |
| 06:44.42 | Bejitt | when it puts you in combat, i mean |
| 06:44.51 | Diao | well |
| 06:44.52 | Diao | yeah but |
| 06:44.54 | Diao | it hurts me against rogues :( |
| 06:44.59 | Bejitt | =\ |
| 06:45.36 | Bejitt | is sap a "Incapacitate" ? |
| 06:45.40 | Antiarc | yes |
| 06:45.45 | Antiarc | And you can zerk rage out of it <_< |
| 06:46.12 | Bejitt | that's what i was going to say |
| 06:46.44 | Orionshock | Antiarc: only if your in zerker? |
| 06:46.53 | Orionshock | Antiarc: only if your in zerker-stance? |
| 06:46.58 | Antiarc | Yeah, but you can mash a stance change as easily as mashing bloodrage |
| 06:47.34 | Orionshock | imho, in-form druids should be immune to sap :D |
| 06:47.39 | Antiarc | they are |
| 06:47.44 | Orionshock | no they arn't |
| 06:47.45 | Diao | yea but |
| 06:47.49 | Antiarc | Is that new? |
| 06:47.54 | Diao | the problem is |
| 06:47.55 | Orionshock | nope |
| 06:48.02 | Diao | my ezrk rage was on cd |
| 06:48.03 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 06:48.04 | Diao | from a gouge |
| 06:48.06 | Orionshock | we're not considered a beast |
| 06:48.07 | Diao | he blinded me and then sapped |
| 06:48.18 | Antiarc | Orionshock: Uh. Why can hunters Scare Beast on driuds then? |
| 06:48.19 | Diao | cause i zerk raged gouge, he went into a blind -> sap |
| 06:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: er, i thought you were? |
| 06:48.23 | Diao | and i couldn't do anything |
| 06:48.25 | Orionshock | ya |
| 06:48.27 | Orionshock | i know |
| 06:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, and you show up on hunter beast tracking |
| 06:48.30 | Orionshock | it's fucking backwards |
| 06:48.41 | Antiarc | I'm nearly 100% certain you can't sap form druids. |
| 06:49.29 | Diao | so anyway yeah |
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| 06:49.34 | Diao | i couldn't zerk rage and i wasted a bloodrage |
| 06:49.39 | Diao | :\ |
| 06:49.41 | Diao | pretty lame imo |
| 06:50.17 | RaydenUni | nice for the rogue that he could counter it |
| 06:50.33 | Orionshock | ok i was wrong |
| 06:50.48 | Diao | but yes |
| 06:50.49 | Diao | it is lame |
| 06:50.52 | Diao | and needs to be reverted |
| 06:53.39 | Zhinjio | Can anyone explain why this dies on line 10 with "attempt to index local tempEntry (a nil value)" : http://pastey.net/77057 |
| 06:54.42 | Zhinjio | I know for certain that SKG.db.char.RollLists[listName][Player] has a value (which should be { ["name"] = "Blech", ["class"] = "someClass", ["lastMod"] = SomeNumber } |
| 06:55.09 | Bejitt | well, it's saying it didnt get a value |
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| 06:55.17 | Zhinjio | agreed. why? |
| 06:55.29 | Xuerian | It didn't get a value? |
| 06:55.32 | Zhinjio | nope. |
| 06:55.41 | Xuerian | nevermind :p |
| 06:55.46 | Zhinjio | the error indicates tempEntry is still nil |
| 06:55.51 | Xinhuan | maybe your listName and Player variables are wrong |
| 06:55.52 | Bejitt | "attempt to index local tempEntry" should come up if tempEntry is nil on statements like "tempEntry.name" |
| 06:55.53 | Xuerian | :Print()'s ftw |
| 06:56.11 | Zhinjio | thats what the SKG_Debugs() are |
| 06:56.23 | Zhinjio | I'll do a few more... |
| 06:56.42 | Xuerian | The only one you're missing is the one checking for those table values |
| 06:56.48 | Xuerian | Which is where the problem is, ironically |
| 06:56.58 | Xinhuan | you just contradicted yourself Zhinjio |
| 06:57.32 | Xinhuan | "attempt to index local tempEntry (a nil value)" and "I know for certain it has a value" |
| 06:57.53 | Zhinjio | in that contradiction lies my confusion, X |
| 06:58.08 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna verify those values right now... standby |
| 06:58.31 | Xinhuan | capitalization matters! |
| 06:59.12 | Zhinjio | yeah, I thought I checked all those. ... idle a sec. |
| 06:59.45 | Xinhuan | you should also simplify your code, add a "local db = SKG.db.char" on top |
| 07:00.03 | Xinhuan | so you can just use "db" everywhere instead of "SKG.db.char" |
| 07:00.13 | Zhinjio | other than code simplification, does it actually optimize anything? |
| 07:00.20 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:00.20 | Zhinjio | or is it just for readability? |
| 07:00.25 | Xinhuan | its about 20 less tablelookups |
| 07:00.33 | Zhinjio | can you explain? |
| 07:00.41 | Xinhuan | you're looking up SKG, then looking up db in that table, then looking up char in that table |
| 07:00.55 | Xinhuan | it has to resolve each table and subtable |
| 07:01.06 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 07:01.10 | Xinhuan | if you have a reference directly it doesn't have to do that everytime |
| 07:01.54 | Xinhuan | its for both readability and speed |
| 07:01.57 | Zhinjio | understood. |
| 07:02.12 | Zhinjio | that makes sense. Once I get this figured out, I'll go through and do that. I have alot of those referneces all over my code. |
| 07:04.11 | Xinhuan | your code probably has a lot of places that could be optimized ;p |
| 07:04.16 | Xinhuan | feel free to pastey hehe |
| 07:05.26 | Xinhuan | also, note that line 7 is redundant |
| 07:05.36 | Xinhuan | when you ran "local tempEntry = {}" |
| 07:05.45 | Xinhuan | and then on line 9 ran |
| 07:05.46 | Xinhuan | "tempEntry = SKG.db.char.RollLists[listName][Player]" |
| 07:05.54 | Xinhuan | you just threw the table created in line 7 to the garbage collector |
| 07:06.39 | Zhinjio | Is it possible its differentiating RollLists["Foo"]["7"] from RollLists["Foo"][7]?? |
| 07:06.39 | Xinhuan | also, i note that you are trying to swap 2 entries in the table |
| 07:06.50 | Xinhuan | correct Zhinjio |
| 07:06.56 | Xinhuan | a string is not a number |
| 07:07.07 | Xinhuan | you have to convert your strsplit() results into a number |
| 07:07.07 | Zhinjio | damnit. I need to convert back. oh well. |
| 07:07.10 | Xinhuan | if you meant it to be a number |
| 07:07.13 | Zhinjio | yeah, easy enough |
| 07:07.21 | Xinhuan | a = tonumber(a) |
| 07:07.23 | Xinhuan | will be sufficient |
| 07:07.30 | Xinhuan | also you are trying to swap 2 table entries |
| 07:07.31 | Zhinjio | Player = Player + 0 also works. |
| 07:07.34 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 07:07.37 | Xinhuan | by using a temporary variable |
| 07:07.38 | nevcairiel | ~botmail to Funkeh` I was using state because it always contains the wave number, tested it on all 4 bosses in Hyjal last night, seemed pointless to scan the text for it when its available directly =P |
| 07:07.40 | Xinhuan | do not do that |
| 07:07.48 | Xinhuan | use "a, b = b, a" |
| 07:08.29 | Zhinjio | that'll save me the extra allocation, eh? |
| 07:08.30 | Xinhuan | lua will resolve everything on the right hand side, before assigning to the left hand side |
| 07:08.44 | Xinhuan | so that will swap the 2 values |
| 07:09.21 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 07:09.32 | CIA-4 | 03starlon * r54460 10MarkMyTarget/MarkMyTarget.toc: |
| 07:09.32 | CIA-4 | MarkMyTarget: |
| 07:09.32 | CIA-4 | - Update toc for 2.3 |
| 07:09.43 | many | push a, push b, pop a, pop b |
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| 07:09.51 | Xinhuan | you better finish up that code and repastey it lol! |
| 07:10.12 | Xinhuan | i think you can learn a bit from optimization :) |
| 07:10.14 | Orionshock | Xinhuan, the Code Drill Instructor. |
| 07:10.32 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54461 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: update .toc to 2.3 |
| 07:10.59 | Bejitt | anyone ever used the 'class icons' in-game? |
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| 07:11.44 | Xinhuan | lots of addons do it Bejitt |
| 07:11.46 | Bejitt | i know where the CreateCharacter ones are, but I have to :SetTexCoord for each of them >_< |
| 07:11.51 | Bejitt | wtb example |
| 07:12.01 | Xinhuan | xperl and many other unit frames |
| 07:12.06 | Xinhuan | the default raidUI pane |
| 07:12.13 | Bejitt | ohhh right |
| 07:12.14 | Bejitt | >_> |
| 07:12.21 | Xinhuan | the battlescoreboard in BGs |
| 07:13.12 | Zhinjio | new working code: http://pastey.net/77059 |
| 07:13.16 | Xinhuan | and probably a few other places |
| 07:13.17 | Zhinjio | submitted for your approval, X |
| 07:13.22 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r54462 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:13.23 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:13.23 | CIA-4 | - German update, fr/kr bugfix |
| 07:14.11 | Xinhuan | looks good Zhinjio, but you can probably optimize it a bit further with |
| 07:14.27 | Xinhuan | local db = SKG.db.char.RollLists[listName] |
| 07:14.31 | Zhinjio | db=... right |
| 07:14.35 | Xinhuan | just go as deep as you need |
| 07:15.14 | Zhinjio | looks like I've got a shitload of code cleanup to do now. |
| 07:15.25 | Zhinjio | thanks for the advice. |
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| 07:22.50 | Bejitt | hmmm now to fake the portrait overlay x.x |
| 07:29.21 | Bejitt | i'm trying to set the 'portrait' to the class icon when you're not in range of the person you're 'inspecting' |
| 07:29.44 | Neebler | for what unitframes |
| 07:30.11 | Bejitt | this is for Spyglass |
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| 07:30.21 | Neebler | hmm dunno what that is |
| 07:30.23 | Bejitt | not unit frames, just the inspect frame |
| 07:31.09 | NightHawkTheSane | god, my neighbors an idiot. "your bass is too high." no, its fucking not, it's as low as the speakers will let it go without turning my music off. you're a fat asshole, go diaf. >< |
| 07:31.25 | starlon | bass carries |
| 07:31.45 | Neebler | utilize pillows! |
| 07:31.46 | starlon | walls just amplify it |
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| 07:32.42 | NightHawkTheSane | well unfortunately, i can't do anything about physics, and i'm not turning my music off. it's not loud. i can barely hear it from across my apartment (which is very small) |
| 07:33.05 | starlon | I used to bitch at my dorm neighbors about their bass. They invited me in to see how low it was. It was indeed really low, but in my room it was loud. |
| 07:34.00 | starlon | They were like you. Luckily policy was on my side in the matter. |
| 07:34.15 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, policy can fuck itself |
| 07:34.46 | starlon | Well, maybe they had the same opinion, but in the end the music was turned off. |
| 07:35.42 | Xinhuan | check this out |
| 07:35.43 | Xinhuan | http://www.dtguilds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3462&d=1194889138 |
| 07:35.51 | Xinhuan | 2^32 = 4294967296 |
| 07:35.54 | Xinhuan | 2^31 = 2147483648 |
| 07:36.32 | Xinhuan | i'm impressed wow has code to detect overflowing the gold limit and it didn't just overflow into the negatives or rollover to 0 |
| 07:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting. |
| 07:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | that would have been vastly amusing. |
| 07:37.03 | Xinhuan | it shows a lot |
| 07:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Agreed |
| 07:37.33 | Xinhuan | i'm sure almost every other game wouldn't have an overflow check |
| 07:37.46 | Xinhuan | after all, who would have 214k gold? :) |
| 07:37.47 | Orionshock | with the new patch I can't AOE if i'm jumping? |
| 07:38.17 | Orionshock | frost mage |
| 07:38.20 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: china's :) |
| 07:38.21 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, you can |
| 07:38.31 | Xinhuan | it just doesn't get extra radius bonus |
| 07:38.36 | Orionshock | ahhh |
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| 07:44.11 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
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| 07:50.25 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r54464 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 07:50.25 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 07:50.25 | CIA-4 | - some cosmetic changes |
| 07:52.36 | phyber | Bejitt: pong. |
| 07:52.53 | Bejitt | yo |
| 07:53.13 | Bejitt | am i right? :o |
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| 07:58.13 | Cartas | No, Bejitt. |
| 07:58.20 | Bejitt | =(( |
| 08:00.43 | Bejitt | blah, can't do the overlay manually, and the chunk texture doesnt work with SetPortraitToTexture |
| 08:01.57 | Bejitt | wtb :SetAlphaTexture pst |
| 08:03.30 | Diao | lol |
| 08:03.37 | Diao | me and my ret pally friend are beasting people in the 1600s bracket |
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| 08:15.17 | Bejitt | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/9/98/Spell_Magic_PolymorphChicken.png o_O |
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| 08:21.59 | starlon | Yeah I think that's from http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23835 |
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| 08:28.18 | silentium | humm... if your gold cant get into negative, why use a signed int32 variable for it? with unsigned you could carry twice the amount before reaching the limit |
| 08:28.55 | silentium | or are there situations in the game where you can get into negative somehow? |
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| 08:30.38 | Kalroth | silentium: It can. |
| 08:30.56 | Cartas | Kalroth? |
| 08:31.03 | Kalroth | GMs has set peoples gold to a negative amount, both in beta and back in beginning of retail |
| 08:31.07 | Kalroth | They don't do it anymore though |
| 08:31.10 | Kalroth | Cartas: Hi baby |
| 08:31.12 | silentium | on the other hand, if you cheated gold somehow and then spend it before the GMs notice, they can take it away from you and you sit there with negative gold, might make sense |
| 08:31.17 | Cartas | Are you... the same from EU-Warrior, Kalroth? |
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| 08:31.57 | silentium | aw, too bad, would be too funny seeing ppl ask for loads of gold so they can repair their broken gear again ;> |
| 08:32.03 | Cartas | Hi Kalroth's brother, also called Kalroth. |
| 08:32.18 | Kalroth | Cartas: You've heard from my brother?! Say hi from me! |
| 08:32.30 | Cartas | Will do, old chap! |
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| 08:45.44 | Bejitt | spam |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | 03bejitt * r54465 10Spyglass/ (buttons.lua core.lua summary.lua): |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | Spyglass: |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | - Tweaked the structure a little more (again) |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | - Had forgotten to update everything when a player changed gear |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | - Added quality borders |
| 08:45.47 | CIA-4 | - Setting portrait to the Spyglass icon when not in inspect range |
| 08:45.53 | Bejitt | :o |
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| 08:57.28 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/usf-beermas.png !!! |
| 09:01.33 | kebinusan | I find it disturbing that someone could drink that much rolling rock |
| 09:01.50 | kebinusan | The only beer I ever drank that got worse the more I drank |
| 09:02.35 | Orionshock_ | what's the new interface version? 2030? |
| 09:02.46 | Orionshock_ | *20300 |
| 09:03.09 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:03.53 | Azure | kebinusan: real Beer, or chemical piss like American Budweiser? ;) |
| 09:04.06 | kebinusan | its chemical piss |
| 09:04.41 | Azure | hehe ok |
| 09:06.50 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r54466 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (. SickOfClickingDailies.toc core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 09:06.50 | CIA-4 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 09:06.50 | CIA-4 | -Bump Toc, Move to Major version 4, change toc arround to make sense. |
| 09:06.50 | CIA-4 | -Core: Remove Debug code, Adjust QuestItterator to work better, Adjust query to turn in the pick up. |
| 09:06.50 | CIA-4 | -enUS-Locale: remove duplicate and rename core table.. version is a label not a practice |
| 09:07.12 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.46 | kebinusan | Any idea if the contents of chests are determined when opened or looted? |
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| 09:12.00 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
| 09:12.15 | kebinusan | err spawned that is as in the fishing ones for the silly new track fish thing |
| 09:12.23 | Arcaia | kebinusan : it's not one person - it's a 4 person dorm room ;P |
| 09:12.30 | Arcaia | and most of it is Yeungling |
| 09:12.45 | Arcaia | we only bought Rolling Rock the 2 times the store was out of Yeungling |
| 09:13.02 | doktoreas | is there an addon to see the material items for a craftable object? |
| 09:13.02 | kebinusan | Ah ok |
| 09:13.14 | Orionshock_ | kebinusan: it's when looted just like everything else |
| 09:13.23 | Arcaia | here's the kicker it was mainly 2 people [not me] |
| 09:13.27 | Arcaia | and they did it in 2 weeks |
| 09:13.39 | Orionshock_ | thats why when your the 2nd person to loot something it appears way fast , but the first person always laggs a bit |
| 09:14.02 | kebinusan | Ok, well I guess I wont stay up late fishing for curious crates |
| 09:14.19 | kebinusan | or will |
| 09:14.27 | kebinusan | guess I should learn to read first |
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| 09:30.31 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r54467 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: |
| 09:30.31 | CIA-4 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 09:30.31 | CIA-4 | -Swap return values on quest check to retain flow with what we're checking. |
| 09:30.31 | CIA-4 | -Force nextQuestFlag to false when turning in. |
| 09:37.01 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54469 10HotCandy/HotCandy.toc: HotCandy: bump .toc |
| 09:37.29 | Kalroth | mmm, hot candy |
| 09:38.27 | starlon | I bet she is |
| 09:40.04 | CIA-4 | 03daviesh * r54470 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 09:40.04 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:40.04 | CIA-4 | -Increment version for Patch 2.3 |
| 09:41.58 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54471 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: small tweak |
| 09:43.26 | CIA-4 | 03anxarces * r54472 10TitanProfessions/ (README.txt TitanBag.tga TitanProfessions.lua): |
| 09:43.26 | CIA-4 | TitanProfessions: |
| 09:43.26 | CIA-4 | - Fixed a bug preventing the addon to load properly. |
| 09:43.26 | CIA-4 | - Changed frame strata to dialog. |
| 09:45.30 | Xinhuan | is that a titan panel addon lol |
| 09:45.32 | Xinhuan | on wowace |
| 09:46.42 | Cartas | It is, Xinhuan! |
| 09:47.07 | Cartas | Doesn't that just make your blood boil? |
| 09:47.23 | tinyboom | hehe |
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| 09:48.19 | Orionshock_ | it's blasphemy is what it is. |
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| 09:53.52 | Orionshock_ | anyone know if titianpanel is still coded like trash? |
| 09:55.24 | Cartas | lo |
| 09:55.29 | Cartas | l |
| 09:55.36 | Cartas | Hm... |
| 09:55.47 | Cartas | I don't know why it's still going tbh. Do some people just not know of FuBar? |
| 09:55.48 | Codayus | Is it still even being coded? Haven't heard anything about it in a long time... |
| 09:58.14 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54473 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: some more tweaks |
| 09:59.33 | Arrowmaster | afaik no its not being updated |
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| 10:03.22 | CIA-4 | 03trasher * r54474 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 10:03.22 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:03.22 | CIA-4 | - Little French Update |
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| 10:08.43 | theoddone33 | yay exciting patch day |
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| 10:15.30 | ramoz | anything fun and undocumented in 2.3? |
| 10:15.42 | nevcairiel | they eated your char |
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| 10:18.02 | evl | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.20 | nevcairiel | not mine |
| 10:18.23 | nevcairiel | ramoz |
| 10:18.36 | ramoz | hah! 2.3 is out in europe yet |
| 10:18.39 | ramoz | i will hide it tonight then |
| 10:18.52 | Tehehe | What's the best way to create an artificial pause between some repeat API calls? Trying to call GuildPromote() a lot, but it seems that it can only be called once every 500ms. |
| 10:19.07 | nevcairiel | a timer. |
| 10:19.21 | Tehehe | I tried reading through the AceEvent API and ScheduleEvent, but it does not seem to do what I need. |
| 10:19.26 | Tehehe | can you elaborate? |
| 10:19.48 | evl | Tehehe: use AceEvent's ScheduleRepeatingEvent |
| 10:20.21 | Tehehe | Yes, I thought about that. However, the problem is that if I used that I would just have many different repeating events running at the same time |
| 10:20.32 | Tehehe | one second, let me pastey the code... it would make more sense. |
| 10:21.45 | Tehehe | http://ace.pastey.net/77076 |
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| 10:23.07 | Tehehe | you see, if I just replace line 5 with a ScheduleRepeatingEvent, it would just create dozens of repeating events all occuring at the same time |
| 10:23.29 | evl | Tehehe: first make an index 1, then schedule a repeating event, then when it fires you check if you're at the last guild member, if so you exit, else you call promote |
| 10:24.16 | Health | US patching 2.3? |
| 10:24.24 | Health | Or didn't they make live? |
| 10:24.52 | Tehehe | thanks, I think i've got the idea |
| 10:25.11 | Tehehe | Health: servers going down in 35 minutes for 2.3 |
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| 10:25.31 | Health | Ah, nice. |
| 10:25.44 | [Ammo] | when will S3 gear be availab |
| 10:25.46 | [Ammo] | next week? |
| 10:25.51 | Health | Yes |
| 10:26.13 | Shadowed | unless Blizzard breaks something |
| 10:26.18 | Shadowed | and we get it today (I hope so) |
| 10:26.31 | evl | I'm ready for S3! |
| 10:26.35 | evl | 75k honor, 5k arena |
| 10:27.11 | Tehehe | but are your EOTS marks ready? >< |
| 10:27.21 | Shadowed | 100 EOTS |
| 10:27.23 | evl | 100 of all marks |
| 10:27.33 | evl | and 40 av marks in the mail :P |
| 10:27.35 | evl | just in case! |
| 10:27.45 | Shadowed | Nothing really uses AV marks |
| 10:30.57 | Corgan | need 100 av marks for S1 gear + a 2h weapon |
| 10:31.42 | Corgan | 90* |
| 10:32.12 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r700 10/trunk/TourGuide/StatusFrame.lua: TourGuide: lets move the icon for 'use' 60 left too |
| 10:32.12 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r701 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua: TourGuide: i hate to rework my text, but it had to. ie. Beached Sea Creatures and Turtles removed etc |
| 10:32.13 | Tehehe | ev1: How do you stop a RepeatingEvent? ScheduleRepeatingEvent() does not seem to take in a name as a paramater to use with CancelScheduledEvent() |
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| 10:40.32 | [Ammo] | Tehehe: it does |
| 10:40.49 | [Ammo] | ScheduleRepeatingEvent("myeventofdewm", func, 1) |
| 10:41.19 | [Ammo] | you can then cancel myevnetofdewm |
| 10:44.06 | Tehehe | thanks, Ammo |
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| 10:48.53 | Orionshock_ | Server Shutdown 12:00 |
| 10:48.55 | Orionshock_ | :(( |
| 10:49.36 | Xinhuan | hey |
| 10:49.36 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2855962828&sid=1 |
| 10:49.38 | Xinhuan | read that |
| 10:49.42 | Xinhuan | 4v3 in a 3v3 arena |
| 10:49.47 | Xinhuan | with screenshots |
| 10:50.01 | Orionshock_ | "for i = 1, x , 1 do" << what's the 3rd arg for the for loop? |
| 10:50.12 | Xinhuan | its the increment Orionshock_ |
| 10:50.18 | Xinhuan | by default, its 1 |
| 10:50.22 | Orionshock_ | hum.... |
| 10:50.29 | Xinhuan | you can do for i = 50, 1, -1 do |
| 10:50.30 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 10:50.33 | Xinhuan | to count backwards |
| 10:50.35 | Orionshock_ | this makes things easier me thinks |
| 10:50.47 | Xinhuan | or for i = 2, 100, 2 do to count all even numbers |
| 10:50.57 | Orionshock_ | for i, select("#", ...) , 2 do |
| 10:51.27 | Xinhuan | you can also use floating numbers |
| 10:51.32 | Xinhuan | for i = 0, 1, 0.1 do |
| 10:51.53 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 0, 1, 0.1 do print(i) end |
| 10:51.53 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 0, 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1 |
| 10:55.43 | Wobin | lua> for i= 1, 20, i do print(i) end |
| 10:55.44 | cladbot | Wobin: [string "for i= 1, 20, i do print(i) end"]:1: 'for' step must be a number |
| 10:55.49 | Wobin | damn =( |
| 10:55.53 | Arrowmaster | for i = 0, 20, math.pi do print(i) end |
| 10:56.04 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i = 0, 20, math.pi do print(i) end |
| 10:56.04 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 0, 3.1415926535898, 6.2831853071796, 9.4247779607694, 12.566370614359, 15.707963267949, 18.849555921539 |
| 10:56.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:56.40 | nevcairiel | lua> local i = 1; for i = 1, 20, i do print(i) end |
| 10:56.40 | cladbot | nevcairiel: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 |
| 10:56.45 | Orionshock_ | how many numbers out does it do pi for? |
| 10:56.45 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 10:56.51 | nevcairiel | guess it stores the i before running |
| 10:56.56 | Wobin | lua> print(math.pi) |
| 10:56.57 | cladbot | Wobin: 3.1415926535898 |
| 10:57.03 | Wobin | that many =P |
| 10:57.17 | Orionshock_ | lua> 14/7 |
| 10:57.17 | cladbot | Orionshock_: 2 |
| 10:57.20 | Orionshock_ | ? |
| 10:57.21 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i = 0, 20, math.huge do print(i) end |
| 10:57.22 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: |
| 10:57.27 | Orionshock_ | 22/7 right? |
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| 10:57.51 | nevcairiel | lua> 22/7 |
| 10:57.52 | cladbot | nevcairiel: 3.1428571428571 |
| 10:57.59 | Wobin | er you did 14/7 =) |
| 10:58.13 | Orionshock | 13 out |
| 10:58.17 | Orionshock | int? |
| 10:58.23 | Industrial | num |
| 10:58.27 | Orionshock | ic |
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| 11:02.03 | Kerafyrm | and the patch is upon us |
| 11:02.19 | Xinhuan | thh loop runs until i > the ending number in the loop |
| 11:02.19 | kebinusan | and there was much rejoycing |
| 11:02.23 | Orionshock | me thinks the encoding on LibSharedMedia-2.0 's lib.xml file is phooked :\ |
| 11:02.33 | Xinhuan | so if you modify the loop variable, you may end up with an infinite loop like this |
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| 11:02.49 | kebinusan | unphook it Orionshock |
| 11:02.51 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 10, 1 do i = 1 print(i) end |
| 11:02.52 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 |
| 11:03.00 | Xinhuan | hey O_O |
| 11:03.04 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:03.08 | Xinhuan | it didn't infinite loop! |
| 11:03.17 | Orionshock | it prolly has protection |
| 11:03.19 | Xinhuan | what the hell |
| 11:03.34 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 10, 1 do print(i) i = 1 print(i) end |
| 11:03.34 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1, 5, 1, 6, 1, 7, 1, 8, 1, 9, 1, 10, 1 |
| 11:03.46 | nevcairiel | it protects the i from modification |
| 11:03.47 | Wobin | ... |
| 11:04.00 | Xinhuan | whoa, is this a unique hidden lua feature |
| 11:04.20 | Wobin | aw no funky side effecta |
| 11:04.22 | Wobin | s |
| 11:04.44 | kebinusan | can you do while loops |
| 11:04.49 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:04.50 | Xinhuan | i certainly didn't know they protect the loop counter |
| 11:05.26 | kebinusan | . lua> while x=0 do print(x) end |
| 11:05.31 | kebinusan | or something evil |
| 11:05.48 | nevcairiel | lua> while true do end |
| 11:05.53 | kebinusan | shouldnt abuse cladbot tho |
| 11:05.53 | Xinhuan | your code won't run cos x is nil ;p |
| 11:05.54 | cladbot | nevcairiel: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 11:05.59 | nevcairiel | see |
| 11:06.01 | nevcairiel | its protected |
| 11:06.09 | kebinusan | fun |
| 11:06.32 | Xinhuan | lua> while true do a = {{{{{}}}}} end |
| 11:06.37 | cladbot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 11:06.47 | Xinhuan | that took longer than 5 secs |
| 11:06.47 | nevcairiel | now dont spam clad with garbage |
| 11:06.54 | nevcairiel | (12:06:15) (Xinhuan) lua> while true do a = {{{{{}}}}} end |
| 11:06.54 | nevcairiel | (12:06:20) (cladbot) Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 11:06.57 | nevcairiel | looks right to me |
| 11:07.08 | cladhaire | doesn't matter, its 5s of execution time |
| 11:07.08 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 11:07.11 | cladhaire | have to consider machine load, etc. |
| 11:07.23 | cladhaire | i wouldn't cheat ya :P |
| 11:07.28 | Xinhuan | :d |
| 11:07.50 | kebinusan | neat bot |
| 11:07.51 | dezzi | lua> for i = 1, 10, 1 do print("desu") end |
| 11:07.51 | cladbot | dezzi: desu, desu, desu, desu, desu, desu, desu, desu, desu, desu |
| 11:08.01 | dezzi | :D |
| 11:08.47 | kebinusan | lua> print("\n/kick kebinusan") |
| 11:08.48 | Xinhuan | so who here can claim to know about the protected for-loop counter before 10 minutes ago ;p |
| 11:08.48 | cladbot | kebinusan: /kick kebinusan |
| 11:09.09 | Tekkub | lua> for i=1,1000 do print("spam") end |
| 11:09.09 | cladbot | Tekkub: spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spa... (result truncated) |
| 11:09.13 | Wobin | lua> for i=1,12 do print("badger") end |
| 11:09.14 | cladbot | Wobin: badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger |
| 11:09.23 | Kerafyrm | oye |
| 11:09.30 | Kerafyrm | monkey see... monkey do |
| 11:09.35 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 11:09.36 | Arrowmaster | for all you know it could just be cladbot doing that since hes got a lot of extra stuff in it to prevent inf loops |
| 11:09.37 | kebinusan | setup purl to call cladbot and cladbot to respond to purl |
| 11:09.38 | dezzi | hey I kept mine to 10 |
| 11:09.42 | Xinhuan | is there a string length limit in lua? |
| 11:09.42 | dezzi | :( |
| 11:10.01 | nevcairiel | i bet we could get pulr and cladbot to do some loopish thing |
| 11:10.04 | nevcairiel | *purl |
| 11:10.22 | kebinusan | I bet you could, /me backs away slowly |
| 11:10.24 | Xinhuan | i don't think either of them responds to strings starting with "name:" |
| 11:10.25 | Wobin | ~say lua>print("~say lua> print('argh')") |
| 11:10.25 | purl | lua>print("~say lua> print('argh')") |
| 11:10.30 | Wobin | ~say lua> print("~say lua> print('argh')") |
| 11:10.31 | purl | lua> print("~say lua> print('argh')") |
| 11:10.40 | Chompers | a for loop is a standart loop right? |
| 11:10.44 | Wobin | aw =) |
| 11:10.48 | Wobin | botprotected =) |
| 11:10.49 | Chompers | is it like a while loop? |
| 11:10.53 | nevcairiel | cladbot ignores purl? |
| 11:10.55 | Tekkub | lua> for i=1,20 do if i%6 == 0 then print("mushroom, mushroom") else print("badger") end end |
| 11:10.55 | cladbot | Tekkub: badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom, badger, badger |
| 11:11.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:11.12 | Wobin | Tekkub: there are 12 badgers to every two mushrooms =P |
| 11:11.13 | Kerafyrm | bloody hell |
| 11:11.15 | kebinusan | snake oooh its a snake |
| 11:11.24 | Tekkub | lua> for i=1,40 do if i%12 == 0 then print("mushroom, mushroom") else print("badger") end end |
| 11:11.24 | cladbot | Tekkub: badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger,... (result truncated) |
| 11:11.43 | Xinhuan | it does appear that cladbot ignores purl ;p |
| 11:12.04 | Wobin | ~say omg, bot discrimination =( |
| 11:12.05 | purl | omg, bot discrimination =( |
| 11:12.43 | dezzi | lua> print("~say lua> print('argh')") |
| 11:12.43 | cladbot | dezzi: ~say lua> print('argh') |
| 11:12.58 | Xinhuan | ~say ~say ~say purl |
| 11:12.59 | purl | ~say ~say purl |
| 11:13.17 | Xinhuan | it doesn't trigger itself :( |
| 11:13.17 | Wobin | purl definitely does not trigger off herself |
| 11:13.23 | Orionshock | it's because cladbot has a name header |
| 11:13.36 | *** join/#wowace honem (n=honem@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 11:13.37 | Wobin | ~~ |
| 11:13.38 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 11:13.49 | honem | *cough* |
| 11:13.56 | honem | ZOMG SERVERS ARE DOWN ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG |
| 11:14.00 | honem | just kidding guys |
| 11:14.07 | kebinusan | ~ping |
| 11:14.07 | purl | pong |
| 11:14.09 | nevcairiel | zomg another spammer |
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| 11:14.18 | honem | what cha guys up to right now ? |
| 11:14.23 | Wobin | abusing purl |
| 11:14.25 | honem | i'm watching Slayers Try |
| 11:14.28 | Wobin | and cladbot |
| 11:14.32 | nevcairiel | i can still play \o/ |
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| 11:15.05 | Orionshock | anyone else have XBMC? |
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| 11:15.15 | Chompers | yes Orionshock |
| 11:15.23 | Orionshock | what distro do u have? |
| 11:15.31 | kebinusan | I havent looked closely anything I should worry about breaking in 2.3? |
| 11:15.35 | Chompers | about a week old |
| 11:15.37 | Orionshock | T3CH? |
| 11:15.40 | Chompers | aye |
| 11:15.41 | Orionshock | pimped |
| 11:15.44 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:15.53 | Orionshock | u got a link? |
| 11:16.07 | honem | kebi : possibly ones that send multiline messages too fast in customer channels / guild chat etc |
| 11:16.21 | honem | kebi : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=6655DA0D07A687F2E2BFB8046A145809?topicId=879058320&sid=1 |
| 11:16.40 | Chompers | a.b.g.xbox |
| 11:16.43 | dezzi | is there any way to get SCT to behave like blizzard SCT? Blizzard SCT displays damage done over the head of the mob that the damage is being done to |
| 11:16.55 | dezzi | but aparently SCT requires that you anchor to the nameplate |
| 11:17.00 | dezzi | :( |
| 11:17.16 | dezzi | which doesn't work too well when you're more than 30yd away |
| 11:17.17 | Wobin | no |
| 11:17.29 | Orionshock | & name plates are un-named |
| 11:17.33 | Orionshock | so ur fk'ed |
| 11:17.35 | honem | Kebi : "Each chat channel is limited separately, at a rate of 10 messages in 10 seconds." <--- is the only way I can see a problem with |
| 11:17.35 | Wobin | no addon can directly affect the 3d world like that |
| 11:17.41 | Wobin | (or at least quite so easily) |
| 11:18.00 | dezzi | yeah I really like the way blizz SCT works like that :( |
| 11:18.10 | dezzi | in that if I DoT someone up I can find out where they ran to by the numbers lol |
| 11:18.11 | Wobin | it's a pity it sucks every other way =P |
| 11:18.19 | honem | but the Blizz SCT can ? is that what you are saying Wobin ? |
| 11:18.25 | Wobin | yes |
| 11:18.37 | honem | woops sorry didnt scroll my window down |
| 11:18.40 | Wobin | well blizzard have somewhat of a more deeper access to the 3d world than we do =) |
| 11:18.43 | dezzi | its a huge pity that everything else about the blizzard SCT does suck |
| 11:19.40 | dezzi | you can't even get blizz SCT so that it only shows your damage |
| 11:19.41 | dezzi | and only that |
| 11:19.43 | honem | i wove the blizzard SC ...except for it not summarising dmg from similar sources |
| 11:19.50 | honem | eg 12 hits from AE |
| 11:20.08 | tinyboom | Orionshock: did u get the link to xbmc? I have the xbins ftp if you want:) |
| 11:20.19 | Orionshock | that's ok |
| 11:20.24 | Orionshock | i got a pimp'ed torrent |
| 11:20.28 | tinyboom | nice:) |
| 11:20.28 | cladhaire | cladbot ignores purl, as you've deduced :P |
| 11:20.54 | Orionshock | clad is that by design or intent ? |
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| 11:21.05 | cladhaire | ? |
| 11:21.26 | nevcairiel | obviously by design and intent |
| 11:21.28 | Tekkub | I ignore purl all the time |
| 11:21.32 | Tekkub | worthless bot |
| 11:21.36 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:21.40 | nevcairiel | ~hug Tekkub |
| 11:21.40 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Tekkub and suddenly hugs Tekkub tightly |
| 11:22.11 | honem | >_< stoopid irc client not scrolling up |
| 11:22.25 | honem | ninja hug ! |
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| 11:27.17 | ramoz | Is there any good inspect addon floating around? Voyeur isnt so good anymore |
| 11:27.44 | honem | wtf ? falia of the slayers has laser breath ??? |
| 11:28.04 | Orionshock | ramoz: spyglass |
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| 11:29.31 | ramoz | is it full of bloat? |
| 11:29.35 | CIA-4 | 03laotseu * r54475 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: |
| 11:29.35 | CIA-4 | AllPlayed: |
| 11:29.35 | CIA-4 | - Bump TOC to 20300 |
| 11:29.35 | CIA-4 | - Version to 20300-1 |
| 11:29.35 | CIA-4 | - No real change |
| 11:30.46 | Orionshock | only bloat i can think of is that it saves the gear of the ppl you inspect... but you can turn that off |
| 11:30.55 | ramoz | sweet |
| 11:30.58 | ramoz | will haf to check! |
| 11:31.16 | vithos | i use Examiner, but it's non-ace |
| 11:31.35 | Orionshock | blasphemy! burn vithos at the stake :P |
| 11:32.11 | vithos | i tried spyglass some weeks ago, i'll try it again eventually :P |
| 11:35.19 | Orionshock | well, soon as ace3 hits the trunk i think im gona find a way to bloat a very simple mod with it :D |
| 11:35.29 | Bejitt | vithos: it's still kinda work-in-progress @_@ |
| 11:36.07 | Orionshock | anyone know a good ftp client that dosn't want money? |
| 11:36.20 | Bejitt | SmartFTP? |
| 11:36.20 | nevcairiel | FileZilla |
| 11:36.24 | ramoz | UltraFXP |
| 11:36.32 | Bejitt | ftp |
| 11:36.34 | Bejitt | :D |
| 11:36.51 | Bejitt | wait, no, use sftp |
| 11:36.53 | Bejitt | xD |
| 11:36.59 | vithos | UltraFXP, though i don't use it. i use one that wants money :( |
| 11:36.59 | Grum | Orionshock: lftp |
| 11:37.30 | nevcairiel | i bought a copy of FlashFXP way back |
| 11:37.33 | nevcairiel | still works fine for me |
| 11:37.35 | honem | the terminal |
| 11:37.44 | honem | ftp command ftw |
| 11:38.06 | Kalroth | What nevcairiel said, FileZilla |
| 11:38.26 | Kalroth | Or get Total Commander |
| 11:38.30 | Kalroth | It's shareware though |
| 11:38.34 | Kerafyrm | filezilla |
| 11:42.32 | Grum | windows? flashfxp, linux? lftp |
| 11:43.35 | CIA-4 | 03backbone * r54476 10LibBoneUtils-1.0/ (. LibBoneUtils-1.0.lua LibBoneUtils-1.0.toc): LibBoneUtils-1.0: initial import to trunk |
| 11:43.44 | Kalroth | Real men uses wget |
| 11:44.03 | Bejitt | psh i scp all day long |
| 11:44.14 | ramoz | i use arp! |
| 11:44.18 | JoshBorke | rsync ftw |
| 11:44.53 | Kalroth | I use a raw socket and got a hexeditor open on another screen where I enter the bytes as they arrive. |
| 11:45.02 | Grum | Bejitt: scp is fine as well :P |
| 11:45.06 | Grum | omg Kalroth, so efficient ;D |
| 11:45.11 | nevcairiel | what? hex? l2binary |
| 11:45.19 | honem | wow Kalroth |
| 11:45.23 | honem | you are leet |
| 11:45.55 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: It's more efficient to use bytes! |
| 11:46.04 | JoshBorke | i'm impressed |
| 11:46.09 | Grum | no bits, and bind the spacebar to it |
| 11:46.14 | Grum | so you can do 'morse' like stuff |
| 11:46.21 | nevcairiel | you need a smaller keyboard for bits! |
| 11:46.21 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:46.44 | Kalroth | http://fsinfo.cs.uni-dortmund.de/downloads/o-phase/01/binaer.jpg? |
| 11:47.15 | Grum | nevcairiel: you just need good timing and 1 button :D |
| 11:47.32 | nevcairiel | if you have a timer running that insers 0 when you dont type |
| 11:47.33 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:47.38 | Kalroth | A quantum keyboard! |
| 11:47.47 | Kalroth | All bits, all the time |
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| 11:50.26 | Grum | hehe |
| 11:50.32 | Grum | then i also want an undef-bit |
| 11:50.35 | Orionshock | patch up? |
| 11:52.11 | Grum | RAWR! |
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| 11:53.41 | CIA-4 | 03backbone * r54477 10LibBoneUtils-1.0/: LibBoneUtils-1.0: - setup props |
| 11:53.56 | JoshBorke | backbone87: what's BoneUtils gonna do? |
| 11:54.07 | Wobin | bone you? |
| 11:54.10 | honem | O_O |
| 11:54.16 | honem | the PTR's still up guys |
| 11:54.42 | backbone87 | recycling, string work, queue structure |
| 12:01.45 | Kerafyrm | of course the ptr is still up |
| 12:01.57 | Kerafyrm | theres no patch tonight.. |
| 12:02.01 | Kerafyrm | haha jk |
| 12:02.10 | backbone87 | -.- |
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| 12:05.44 | honem | lol it wont be up for long |
| 12:06.40 | Kerafyrm | hmmm |
| 12:06.46 | Kerafyrm | Interestingly enough |
| 12:07.03 | Kerafyrm | they stuck with the final client bulid that was on the PTR.. 7561 |
| 12:07.24 | Kerafyrm | launcher will grab the new downloader with the last 8 megs(if you let the background downloader do its thing) |
| 12:07.32 | backbone87 | i am new to the externals stuff, i think i have setup them correctly... now i have the externals in my local checkout, i hope the will not being uploaded on commit? i am right? |
| 12:07.47 | Xinhuan | [11/13 19:54:15] <backbone87> recycling, string work, queue structure |
| 12:07.48 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 12:08.17 | backbone87 | hm? |
| 12:08.30 | Orionshock | backbone87: no the externs them selfs won't but the property will |
| 12:08.45 | backbone87 | Orionshock: k |
| 12:09.02 | Xinhuan | what does that mean heh |
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| 12:10.06 | honem | .... |
| 12:10.08 | backbone87 | string: join / split (with escapes), stringToInt (deserialize), intToString (serialize) |
| 12:10.28 | honem | i thought i had 7561 downloaded already for the live realms lol |
| 12:10.46 | backbone87 | the serialize functions produce valid c strings (not containing \000) |
| 12:11.00 | honem | any issues with 7561 i should know about |
| 12:11.32 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: the standard table recycling stuff... |
| 12:12.02 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: and a queue data structure for tables (references) |
| 12:12.04 | honem | Xinhuan : the addon authors are talking shop about the new lib libBonesUtil |
| 12:12.17 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 12:12.26 | honem | lol im patching |
| 12:12.30 | Xinhuan | why do you need a lib for table recycling? |
| 12:12.38 | Xinhuan | its barely 20 lines of code |
| 12:13.33 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: it's there for completition :) |
| 12:13.43 | honem | and donuts |
| 12:13.48 | Xinhuan | why do you need a queue data structure when tables in lua are already unlimited in size? |
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| 12:15.00 | Xinhuan | the simplest queue is t = {1, 2, 3}; t.start = 1; t.end = 3 |
| 12:15.07 | Xinhuan | a push would increment t.end |
| 12:15.13 | backbone87 | because you to do some managing stuff, when using a table as queue and the lib will mana it for you, you get a common queue api (enqueue, dequeue, next) |
| 12:15.14 | Xinhuan | and a pop would also increment t.start |
| 12:15.50 | Xinhuan | i would never use a lib for something i can implement in less than 10 lines of code |
| 12:15.55 | Xinhuan | its just unnecessary packaging |
| 12:16.42 | backbone87 | so far, my other libs use it, so i dont have to rewrite it or copy/paste it |
| 12:18.24 | Xinhuan | i still think it is unnecessary, and by having table recycling in a library, you give every addon that uses it possible corruption |
| 12:18.50 | Xinhuan | a single table that is put into the table recycling by mistake and referenced later will mysteriously error when another addon requests a recycled table |
| 12:18.51 | backbone87 | it's in charge of the dev to use it correctly |
| 12:19.01 | Xinhuan | and it is easy to make mistakes like that |
| 12:19.17 | Xinhuan | now if addonA gets an error because addonB didn't recycle tables properly, who's fault isit? |
| 12:19.31 | Xinhuan | because addonA's author definitely cannot tell addonB is at fault here |
| 12:19.31 | honem | addonB |
| 12:19.42 | Xinhuan | but people will complain to addonA's author |
| 12:19.46 | backbone87 | addonB but now user should even play with a corrupt addon |
| 12:20.01 | Xinhuan | but the user doesn't know |
| 12:20.05 | Xinhuan | all he knows is, addonA has an error |
| 12:20.10 | Xinhuan | he doesn't know its caused by addonB |
| 12:20.18 | Xinhuan | neither does addonB author know |
| 12:20.21 | Xinhuan | he has bad code |
| 12:20.31 | Xinhuan | and it'll just go on and on, without the problem being solved |
| 12:20.31 | JoshBorke | as long as it is done correctly, who cares? |
| 12:20.39 | honem | "but people will complain to addonA's author" <---- this is why I hate people who upload addons to addon site's without the orignal author's permissions just as an aside |
| 12:20.42 | CIA-4 | 03zhinjio * r54478 10/branches/SKG/ (12 files): |
| 12:20.42 | CIA-4 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 12:20.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.44 | Xinhuan | its a bad coding practice |
| 12:20.47 | Xinhuan | and shouldn't be done |
| 12:20.59 | honem | bad coding practice is evil |
| 12:21.25 | Xinhuan | table recycling in a library for other addons to use - is bad - unless it is namespaced properly so no addon can affect another addon |
| 12:22.02 | CIA-4 | 03peragor * r54479 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua GridStatusHealer.toc): |
| 12:22.02 | CIA-4 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 12:22.03 | CIA-4 | - Updated for 2.3 release |
| 12:22.13 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you know how difficult it is to debug an addon, when the fault doesn't even come from your own addon |
| 12:22.16 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: thanks again for the optimization advice. I went through all files and made relevant changes. |
| 12:22.30 | Zhinjio | I'm sure there are other things I'm doing inefficiently, but you gotta start somewhere. |
| 12:22.35 | JoshBorke | oh noes, you took advice from Xinhuan on optimization? |
| 12:22.38 | Xinhuan | np Zhinjio |
| 12:22.49 | honem | wow Xinhuan i'm sorry i ever implied you were a noob |
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| 12:23.07 | JoshBorke | i'm not |
| 12:23.21 | backbone87 | do i really have to take the point, that the users (the devs) of a (my) lib cant use my lib correctly, because of a fault, which isnt mine? |
| 12:23.42 | Xinhuan | you do not have to |
| 12:23.50 | Xinhuan | but it is a valid point for consideration |
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| 12:24.33 | Arrowmaster | we've had table recycling libs before, they were discontinued and devs told to use their own recycling code in their addons because of all the problems that got caused |
| 12:24.42 | Xinhuan | it is almost impossible to find out why an error occurs due to improperly handled table recycling |
| 12:24.55 | Xinhuan | when a dev uses it incorrectly |
| 12:25.34 | honem | well im patched now ...just waiting on the realms to come back up lol |
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| 12:26.09 | Kerafyrm | 6.5 hours from now.. they'll be back.. lol |
| 12:26.13 | Orionshock | dosn't rock have a common recycling system? |
| 12:26.21 | Xinhuan | rock's recycling system is namespaced |
| 12:26.24 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: yes |
| 12:26.35 | Xinhuan | so addonA's tables will only ever be reused by addonA |
| 12:26.37 | Orionshock | thought so, by namespacing it you avoid problems |
| 12:26.40 | Orionshock | ok |
| 12:26.45 | Xinhuan | addonB cannot use addonA's recycled tables |
| 12:26.57 | Xinhuan | hence any errors are self-contained in the author's own addon and no other |
| 12:27.12 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: and because it is, it is nearly senseless, because then you can write your own functions |
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| 12:27.34 | Xinhuan | that's what i said backbone87, i would never use a lib for soemthing that i can write in 10 lines |
| 12:28.11 | backbone87 | but to have on recycling function for all addons results in more overall performance.. |
| 12:28.18 | Orionshock | imho, Rock and Ace3 should switch names.... Rock seems like the logical evolution of ace2 than the design structure of ace3.. |
| 12:28.29 | Xinhuan | no it doesn't, all you save is about 100 byes of compiled recycling functions. |
| 12:28.33 | Xinhuan | bytes* |
| 12:28.41 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: i believe that you are incorrect in that assumption |
| 12:28.50 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: Ace2 was supposed to be more like Ace3 is becoming |
| 12:28.57 | backbone87 | so you can have your own code for recycling, when you debug and when it's done and error free, you refactor to the recycling functions of the lib |
| 12:29.11 | CIA-4 | 03feithar * r54480 10SanityItemCache/ (Libs/ SanityItemCache.toc): |
| 12:29.11 | CIA-4 | SanityItemCache: |
| 12:29.11 | CIA-4 | - Updated client version to 20300. Added PeriodicTable-3.0 to externals list. |
| 12:29.50 | Orionshock | backbone87: i think a good answer is that if your recycling lib doesn't name space it then it's borked and going to fk something up. |
| 12:30.12 | Xinhuan | i will rather use my own recycling functions that takes up an extra 100 bytes of compiled code space, and be assured that my own addon will never be fucked up by another addon author's mistake |
| 12:30.19 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: ace3 just seems OCD modular... where as rock seems rather self contained. |
| 12:30.35 | Orionshock | with in a given construct... |
| 12:30.51 | Orionshock | that i intentionally did not provide. |
| 12:30.55 | CIA-4 | 03feithar * r54481 10SanityBags/ (SanityBags.lua SanityBags.toc): |
| 12:30.55 | CIA-4 | SanityBags: |
| 12:30.55 | CIA-4 | - Updated client version to 20300 after testing on PTR. Items in the bank will now be displayed in bags when the bank is open. Right clicking items will move items in and out of the bank, as usual. |
| 12:31.06 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: its not only the closures of the recycling functions, its the table rotation |
| 12:31.10 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: I understand the differences between them and I'm telling you that Ace2 was initially supposed to be more like Ace3, modular but instead became what it is today |
| 12:31.27 | Orionshock | eh well.. |
| 12:32.15 | Orionshock | atleast i will maintain one of my other opinions, Ace3 is more for the small addon that just needs something functional, where as rock would be better suited to build a complicated addon on top of. |
| 12:32.31 | Xinhuan | i still do not agree with it, i see no benefits |
| 12:32.39 | Orionshock | ....once he fixes the DB issues... |
| 12:32.46 | Xinhuan | that can overrule the negatives |
| 12:33.07 | JoshBorke | an addon will benefit (imo) linearly to the amount of the framework it uses |
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| 12:33.28 | Orionshock | ? the more framework the less bennifit? |
| 12:33.38 | JoshBorke | the more framework the more benefit :-P |
| 12:33.39 | Xinhuan | in the case of a shared table recycling pool, an addon will inversely get affected by an addon that fails to use recycled tables properly |
| 12:33.41 | Wobin | well |
| 12:33.45 | Wobin | He's right in one sense |
| 12:33.48 | Xinhuan | one addon screws up, 20 others get screwed up |
| 12:33.55 | Xinhuan | and all 20 gets blamed |
| 12:34.05 | Wobin | Orionshock: " Rock seems like the logical evolution of ace2 than the design structure of ace3.." |
| 12:34.09 | Wobin | That's true |
| 12:34.15 | Wobin | But that's the whole reason for Ace3 |
| 12:34.20 | honem | instead of looking at the root of the problem |
| 12:34.23 | Wobin | was to step away from the bloatedness of Ace3 |
| 12:34.25 | Wobin | er 2 |
| 12:34.28 | Codayus | Hmm, I agree that Rock is closer to Ace2 as it currently exists than Ace3...not really an "evolutoon" though. |
| 12:34.31 | honem | its why i hate the blizzard bug reporter |
| 12:34.36 | honem | not enough info |
| 12:34.44 | Codayus | er, evolution. Whatever. |
| 12:35.01 | Orionshock | Ace3 is Obsessively Modular... come on separating out the call back functions of the event handler into it's own lib?? wtf for? |
| 12:35.08 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: no one have to use it ;) |
| 12:35.21 | Orionshock | zomg and the call back handler is ~50 lines of code? if you keep all the extra line spacing? |
| 12:35.23 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: because the callback handler is used by more than one lib |
| 12:35.24 | Wobin | so more than one library can use it without being interdependant |
| 12:35.44 | Orionshock | Wobin wrong word |
| 12:35.46 | Wobin | The whole point of the Ace3 libraries was that you can use any -single- one on it's own |
| 12:35.49 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: but I use it for my libs/addons |
| 12:35.56 | Wobin | no, it's the right word |
| 12:35.58 | Xinhuan | this whole lib thing is getting ridiculous, everyone is writing libs for the sake of saving a few bytes of code |
| 12:36.00 | Orionshock | ... they are now interdependant on the call back lib, where as before they where not |
| 12:36.11 | Wobin | no |
| 12:36.26 | Wobin | They were all dependant on AceEvent |
| 12:36.36 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: shit happens and then you die |
| 12:36.38 | Wobin | well, not that aceevent was just -it- |
| 12:36.46 | Orionshock | it's the wrong word. |
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| 12:36.50 | Orionshock | trust me it dosn't make sense, the call back lib is not dependant on the event lib |
| 12:36.54 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: the problem is that you have no options from the base tools... not from lua nor from wow |
| 12:36.56 | Lothaer | well just finished downloading the patch |
| 12:37.17 | Wobin | Orionshock: All the Rock libraries are dependant on RockLib |
| 12:37.27 | Orionshock | and? |
| 12:37.35 | Wobin | that's what Ace3 was trying to get away from |
| 12:37.44 | Orionshock | they are rock libs, it makes sense for them to be dependant on rock lib... |
| 12:37.52 | Wobin | and having a tiny callbacklib used by two of the libraries made good sense |
| 12:38.10 | Wobin | rather than having one library require the other completely for only some shared code commonality |
| 12:38.21 | Wobin | Orionshock: That's the whole point |
| 12:38.26 | Codayus | In any case, the point isn't that code can avoid the ~50 lines of the call back handler (or whatever), it's that it can ONLY use the ~50 lines of the call back handler. |
| 12:38.30 | Wobin | They're RockLibs dependant on RockLib |
| 12:38.35 | Orionshock | & whats the +/- bennifits from having 50lines of code in another lib vs just including it inside? |
| 12:38.37 | Xinhuan | wobin: if the tiny callback lib is so tiny, it should just be included in the code of both libs |
| 12:38.51 | Xinhuan | libs for shared code is being overdone |
| 12:39.01 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: my point exactly |
| 12:39.04 | Wobin | It makes no difference =P |
| 12:39.12 | Xinhuan | there is a limit to how useful libs can be when you overdo breaking down into 200 small libs |
| 12:39.19 | [Ammo] | to the users/devs they don't see callbackhandler |
| 12:39.28 | [Ammo] | they load AceEvent-3.0 or whatever and it all works |
| 12:39.28 | Codayus | Xinhuan: Perhaps. I'm not defending that particular choice, but the principle is sound, and Orionshock's analysis was looking at it backwards I think. |
| 12:39.46 | Xinhuan | perhaps its too early to say |
| 12:39.57 | [Ammo] | the reason it's split off is to not make other libs depend on AceEvent for a simple callback |
| 12:39.58 | Wobin | The actual structure of the internal lib makes -no- difference |
| 12:40.08 | Wobin | whether it's in two files or in one |
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| 12:40.16 | Xinhuan | 2 files take longer to load than 1! |
| 12:40.23 | Wobin | oh cry me a river =P |
| 12:40.32 | Xinhuan | 17 acegui widget files takes longer to load than 1 |
| 12:40.34 | Lothaer | why not have everything in 1 big file? |
| 12:40.35 | Orionshock | if where going back to the basics on libs where everything is "agnostic" why is Ace3 modules all of a sudden dividing into smaller pieces of code & then becoming Dependant on this new parcel? |
| 12:40.43 | Codayus | (Certainly including the SAME code in two different libs doesn't make sense as a general rule, no? And if we just include entire libraries willy nilly, eventually all libraries require all other libraires, and that's even uglier...) |
| 12:40.43 | Wobin | Lothaer: Cause then you get Alar'Lib |
| 12:40.50 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:40.51 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: they are not dependant on it |
| 12:40.59 | [Ammo] | Callbackhandler is included with them |
| 12:41.07 | [Ammo] | we could have inlined it in the libs |
| 12:41.09 | Wobin | It's all one thing, right there |
| 12:41.14 | Orionshock | ammo, try having AceEvent3 w/o callbackLib? |
| 12:41.24 | Wobin | But, as I said before, since it's one file, it makes it easier to edit |
| 12:41.26 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: you're being dumb now |
| 12:41.29 | Orionshock | not going to happen? |
| 12:41.37 | Wobin | You're being deliberately obtuse. |
| 12:41.45 | [Ammo] | yeah that was the word |
| 12:41.52 | Orionshock | ammo that's the point!! why separate it out? when it was perfectly fine inline? |
| 12:41.58 | Wobin | But, as I said before, since it's one file, it makes it easier to edit |
| 12:42.00 | Lothaer | why not have everything in 1 big file? |
| 12:42.01 | [Ammo] | maintanance |
| 12:42.05 | Wobin | Lothaer: Cause then you get Alar'Lib |
| 12:42.10 | Wobin | WHY AM I REPEATING MYSELF? |
| 12:42.10 | Lothaer | ??? |
| 12:42.15 | Orionshock | ok i give at the voice of sanity |
| 12:42.26 | JoshBorke | Wobin: because you can't think of clever ways to reward it |
| 12:42.26 | Kalroth | Wobin: Can you repeat that, please? |
| 12:42.32 | Mech0z | Is ace3 a new community or just an upgrade of ace2 ? |
| 12:42.35 | Codayus | Orionshock: Including a 50 line block inline in two seperate large files doesn't SOUND very maintainable to me... |
| 12:42.36 | Wobin | WHY AM I REPEATING MYSELF? |
| 12:42.45 | Wobin | command history ftw |
| 12:42.51 | Orionshock | if it was in all honesty seperated out for the sake of extream scruiteny then i'll concede |
| 12:43.12 | Wobin | But, as I said before, since it's one file, it makes it easier to edit the shared code. |
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| 12:43.46 | honem | ??? |
| 12:43.49 | Orionshock | .. but by classic example , all libs are 1 file wide, outside of the toc, and now the LibStub.lua |
| 12:43.50 | honem | wobin's a guy |
| 12:43.59 | Wobin | yes? |
| 12:44.07 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 12:44.09 | [Ammo] | no-one said libs should be 1 file |
| 12:44.09 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:44.12 | Wobin | >< |
| 12:44.30 | Orionshock | ammo, "by Classic example". i didn't say set in stone |
| 12:44.34 | [Ammo] | and no-one forces anyone to use any frame work either |
| 12:44.41 | Wobin | Well no |
| 12:44.41 | JoshBorke | for me, the idea is that by splitting all the files out into the smallest possible chunk you make it easier to maintain that chunk of code and make sure that it is replicated to all the places that need it |
| 12:44.42 | [Ammo] | so if Ace3 doesn't suit your needs, use another |
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| 12:44.45 | Wobin | It's not a classic example |
| 12:44.51 | Lothaer | i wonder how many poeple are gonna pombard the forums with questions about updates etc today :(\ |
| 12:44.58 | Wobin | because a library was never defined as a single file |
| 12:44.59 | Lothaer | bombard* |
| 12:45.00 | JoshBorke | in this example inlining callback handler into files would mean it is easier for a change to not be replicated to both |
| 12:45.05 | Wobin | they just happened to be that way for some libraries |
| 12:45.09 | honem | wtf ? an orc sattelitte ? |
| 12:45.10 | Codayus | By "classic example" we basically mean Ace2, right? And the point of Ace3 is to NOT make the same mistakes, right? So Ace3 not conforming to the "classic example" seems...expected? |
| 12:45.15 | Xinhuan | JoshBorke, there is a limit to how small each file should be though - should every function be in its own file then? |
| 12:45.19 | honem | flying orcs ! |
| 12:45.19 | Kerafyrm | Patch Day Forum Shutdown Policy, hehe |
| 12:45.28 | backbone87 | if you have libs, which are dependant to each other, you pack it together, add a dynamic registering/loading tool and call if framework... the problem is that wow has no real dynamic loading utility |
| 12:45.30 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: no, because then you have global namespace polution! |
| 12:45.35 | Lothaer | LMAO |
| 12:45.38 | Xinhuan | it doesn't have to have, JoshBorke |
| 12:45.42 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: the purpose and design of callbackhandler is very specific, and warrants it's own file |
| 12:45.50 | Xinhuan | i'm not arguing about that ammo |
| 12:45.53 | honem | Kerafyrm : ie known as "go away we're hiding in IRC ...go away !" |
| 12:45.54 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: notice we did not split off the AceMessages from AceEvent |
| 12:45.57 | Lothaer | there was already some1 asking about a allinone guild bank mod ROFL |
| 12:45.58 | [Ammo] | because that would be too ittle |
| 12:45.59 | Xinhuan | that design decision is ok with me |
| 12:46.03 | Kerafyrm | Bingo! |
| 12:46.19 | Xinhuan | i'm just saying in general that having libs to do every small thing is stupid |
| 12:46.22 | Wobin | Lothaer: Cause they've had so much time to hate the new guild bank? |
| 12:46.23 | Codayus | An allinone GUILD bank mod? |
| 12:46.27 | Codayus | The mind boggles. |
| 12:46.34 | Orionshock | Codayus: not making the same mistakes =/= throwing out what is practical and established tradition , exept after sane debate. |
| 12:46.54 | Lothaer | i dont know there was a post asking about it on the incgamers forum |
| 12:46.59 | Wobin | Xinhuan: You're in agreement that unnecessary code is considered bloat? |
| 12:47.02 | Pkekyo | so, patch hit the US yet? |
| 12:47.06 | Kerafyrm | yes |
| 12:47.07 | break19 | yes |
| 12:47.09 | Lothaer | yes |
| 12:47.11 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:47.14 | Lothaer | i jsut finished downloading it |
| 12:47.17 | Kerafyrm | in 6.25 hours we'll be playing 2.3 |
| 12:47.18 | Wobin | You will melt faces. |
| 12:47.18 | Xinhuan | that would depend on what that unnecessary code is |
| 12:47.18 | break19 | im all patched up and waiting for the servers to reopen |
| 12:47.23 | Lothaer | 281MB i alreadty had 275 pre-downloaded |
| 12:47.30 | Xinhuan | and its purpose |
| 12:47.31 | break19 | same here loth |
| 12:47.37 | Lothaer | :) |
| 12:47.38 | Pkekyo | 2.3 anything fun then? |
| 12:47.49 | JoshBorke | it's now multi-core aware! |
| 12:47.49 | JoshBorke | woot! |
| 12:47.50 | break19 | dunno, servers aint up yet |
| 12:47.53 | Wobin | Unneccessary code: Code that will not be used for your purpose |
| 12:47.56 | Lothaer | about 8hrs after the forums will be up ZA will be conqured |
| 12:48.03 | Lothaer | my money is on D&T |
| 12:48.05 | honem | Lothaer: you need to get the 7561 patch build which the 275MB didn't include yet |
| 12:48.10 | Kerafyrm | heh |
| 12:48.11 | Kerafyrm | yeah |
| 12:48.15 | Wobin | bah |
| 12:48.15 | honem | some european guild will do it |
| 12:48.16 | Wobin | I can't log in |
| 12:48.18 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: using the word "unnecessary" implies that you have evaluated it and assigned it a value |
| 12:48.20 | Wobin | to start the downloader |
| 12:48.24 | Lothaer | the 281 did |
| 12:48.33 | Kerafyrm | launcher grabs the downloader, wobin |
| 12:48.36 | break19 | wobin: dont log in, run the launcher |
| 12:48.36 | Kerafyrm | at least it did for me |
| 12:48.41 | Wobin | kk |
| 12:48.45 | Wobin | I don't log into the launcher |
| 12:48.47 | Lothaer | i got it via the launcher |
| 12:48.50 | Wobin | but I'll call it directly |
| 12:48.56 | Codayus | Lothaer: A full clear should occur 3-5 hours after the server comes up and stabilizes. The first clear will depend more on time zones than anything else I suspect... |
| 12:49.00 | Lothaer | na |
| 12:49.07 | Lothaer | Death and Taxes FTW |
| 12:49.18 | Wobin | there we go |
| 12:49.24 | break19 | latest wow doesnt download in-game, but instead uses the launcher.app (or .exe on .. THOSE systems) |
| 12:49.51 | Mech0z | Is Ace3 mods going to be hosted on the wowace homepage? |
| 12:49.53 | Orionshock | first clear meaning time from server open or time from First server up? |
| 12:49.56 | Wobin | Mech0z: yes |
| 12:49.57 | JoshBorke | Mech0z: yes |
| 12:50.00 | Mech0z | ok |
| 12:50.00 | Xinhuan | its ok, the number of lib folders is going to increase by double and number more than my actual addons soon |
| 12:50.09 | Orionshock | Mech0z: no, on the files site.. :P |
| 12:50.15 | Lothaer | as soon as i log in imma link a weapon with executioner on it :) |
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| 12:50.16 | Tehehe | how soon is the Ace3 framework coming? |
| 12:50.19 | Xinhuan | and that would be disembedded too |
| 12:50.21 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: tghen don't use the addons |
| 12:50.30 | Wobin | Tehehe: It's in beta |
| 12:50.44 | Lothaer | im still to see a mod that used GPSlib |
| 12:50.45 | Xinhuan | ammo: you don't seem to realize i'm not even talking about ace3 |
| 12:50.49 | Mech0z | Hope threat & omen are converted if its more lightweight |
| 12:50.49 | Tehehe | that does not really answer my question, afaik Ace3 has been under testing and development for a very long time |
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| 12:50.59 | break19 | beta beta bo beta banafana fo feta, me my mo meta.. gem |
| 12:51.05 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 12:51.30 | Tehehe | i wasn't aware that it was anywhere near release, but this discussion leads me to believe otherwise |
| 12:51.33 | Codayus | Orionshock: Hmm, to clarify. A full clear should take oh, under 5 hours for a good T6 guild. So...depends which servers come up when, how stable they are, and the raiding schedule of the relevant guilds. |
| 12:51.40 | Poul|Raider | did us get patch today? |
| 12:51.45 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:51.48 | honem | ace addons never are Tehehe >_> |
| 12:51.50 | Orionshock | Mech0z: Threat and Omen will still be the same... their rather specialized to begin with. |
| 12:51.53 | Poul|Raider | ok, thx Wobin |
| 12:51.54 | Lothaer | YES |
| 12:52.06 | Wobin | Someone put that in the topic plz =P |
| 12:52.09 | break19 | a 3mo old that wakes you up every 3-5 hours wanting food.... kinda makes you loopy at 7am :/ |
| 12:52.18 | Mech0z | Orionshock okay |
| 12:52.21 | Lothaer | i hope that pathc-x still works, it wasnt on the PTR im hoping that was just the PTR though /pray |
| 12:52.27 | Lothaer | patch-x |
| 12:52.37 | honem | break19 ... i want food too |
| 12:52.54 | Mech0z | Orionshock at least in a week or 3 I wont care when I get my new computer^^ just now when Iam playing on my laptop I want ultra lightweight^^ |
| 12:52.56 | Lothaer | i wonder |
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| 12:53.00 | Lothaer | AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 12:53.08 | Poul|Raider | How many here have found things in the API that just was to good to be intented that they was thinking of not telling anyone to avoid blizzard blocking an API ? |
| 12:53.11 | JoshBorke | Run_Maa: do not use colors |
| 12:53.17 | JoshBorke | Run_Maa: it is against freenode policy |
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| 12:53.19 | *** kick/#wowace [Run_Maa!n=wouter@WoWUIDev/WowAce/ammo] by [Ammo] (bye) |
| 12:53.30 | Wobin | oi oi oi |
| 12:53.36 | Lothaer | wooot |
| 12:53.38 | Lothaer | bout tiem lol |
| 12:53.44 | Codayus | Lothaer: Heathen scum. |
| 12:53.44 | Wobin | I was in another window |
| 12:53.46 | Xinhuan | such as what Poul|Raider? |
| 12:53.47 | break19 | Poul|Raider: unfortunately, I have NO idea wtf you just asked |
| 12:53.47 | Wobin | talking about kittens |
| 12:54.01 | Lothaer | Heathen, ill smake u in the face with a kangaroo |
| 12:54.22 | Lothaer | smack* |
| 12:54.35 | break19 | oo, I wanna get smaked.. is it fun? |
| 12:54.36 | Codayus | Your kangaroo is no match for my highly trained venamous attack kiwi. |
| 12:54.38 | Lothaer | ~chuck norris |
| 12:54.38 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, chuck norris is and there is no chin under Chuck Norris' Beard. There is only another fist. |
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| 12:55.06 | Wobin | uh thanks =P |
| 12:55.12 | Chompers | a hunting bow? |
| 12:55.17 | Wobin | maybe a crossbow |
| 12:55.28 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, i was just thinking :) |
| 12:55.30 | Wobin | rok'dalar? |
| 12:55.37 | Wobin | A kitten with an epic bow would be cool |
| 12:55.48 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider: anything gamebreaking would have been abused the moment it was found ;p |
| 12:56.09 | Wobin | Poul|Raider: It tends to happen that way |
| 12:56.14 | Lothaer | i want the Leper gnome trinket |
| 12:56.19 | Wobin | although a lot of them get reported to Slouken |
| 12:56.19 | honem | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.20 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: Poul|Raider - correction, anything game braking has been abused once found and then fixed in a subsequent patch |
| 12:56.26 | Xinhuan | keep in mind i actually found a way to duplicate ore ingame, i mailed it in and blizzard fixed it within 24 hours. |
| 12:56.36 | Xinhuan | yes - i duplicated about 100 stacks myself |
| 12:56.42 | Xinhuan | all with the same itemID |
| 12:56.45 | Xinhuan | uniqueID even |
| 12:56.45 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: wtf? |
| 12:56.48 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, ye but if you found something which you knew would be so gamebreakking that blizzard might have blocked some api to make it not posible, would you be be able to keep it for you self? :D |
| 12:56.58 | Xinhuan | no, i would mail it in |
| 12:57.02 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 12:57.10 | Orionshock | ok now Xinhuan you've gone and done it.. |
| 12:57.10 | Xinhuan | as i did, for the ore duplication bug |
| 12:57.16 | Wobin | Cause knowing abuse of a hack can lead to account deletion =P |
| 12:57.28 | Poul|Raider | well, im not talking about any hacks |
| 12:57.28 | honem | Poul : its usaully a good idea to mail in bugs ...otherwise you get worser bugs |
| 12:57.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.32 | Xinhuan | i even made a 1 minute long video and uploaded it on the exact steps |
| 12:57.32 | Codayus | And, even if it didn't, is just wrong. |
| 12:57.36 | Xinhuan | and sent it in |
| 12:57.40 | honem | bugs have a history of getting worse the more you ignore them |
| 12:57.49 | Xinhuan | i could pastey the email i guess? |
| 12:57.49 | Codayus | Which should be all the reason you need, no? |
| 12:57.53 | Lothaer | hmmm |
| 12:58.04 | Xinhuan | since its fixed already |
| 12:58.11 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.28 | Orionshock | Lothaer: don't forget the .del server log |
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| 12:58.36 | Poul|Raider | Well im not thinking of hacks and bugs, just an API that make something posible that blizzard most licky would block because it was not intented to use it the way it can be. |
| 12:58.45 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.05 | Orionshock | Poul|Raider: they did, "The Grate Nerf of 1.12" |
| 12:59.07 | JoshBorke | Lothaer: no, no. you death touch the MT right as they engage Illidan |
| 12:59.09 | JoshBorke | every time |
| 12:59.13 | honem | most licky ? |
| 12:59.18 | Lothaer | actually id send Austin Martin to myself |
| 12:59.20 | Poul|Raider | ye Orionshock :D |
| 12:59.25 | honem | thats the worse abbreiavation ive seen ! |
| 12:59.28 | Lothaer | tthen id go Farm BT :) |
| 12:59.57 | Orionshock | & i spelled that wrong :( |
| 13:00.02 | Mech0z | I hate blizz inserted the item disconnect thing again :/ |
| 13:00.05 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.23 | Lothaer | just incase people dont know what Austin Martin is, its a wepaon with shit stats but has a awsome use ability, kills all enemies within 30yards |
| 13:00.33 | Lothaer | its also a car :) |
| 13:00.44 | Xinhuan | Orionshock: http://pastey.net/77083 |
| 13:00.48 | Lothaer | the itemID of it is 192 |
| 13:01.05 | Codayus | You mean Martin Thunder, actually... |
| 13:01.11 | Poul|Raider | well i could make up alittle example, lets say that it was posible to use some API to find out what players you meet in a arena(like whispering in loot all players in the bracket) and use that, would that be in violation with blizzards rules and what not? |
| 13:01.12 | Lothaer | ..... |
| 13:01.20 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=192 |
| 13:01.21 | Lothaer | `slap lothaer |
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| 13:01.23 | Poul|Raider | doh |
| 13:01.29 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider: there is already an addon that does this |
| 13:01.36 | Xinhuan | its called ArenaScanner |
| 13:01.40 | Lothaer | wow to make a ass of myself LOL |
| 13:01.44 | Mech0z | Xinhuan Iam sure you just wrote this quick just now :o |
| 13:01.59 | Poul|Raider | ye Xinhuan, but you cant whisper horde as allicance etc so not that good. |
| 13:02.01 | Lothaer | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=192 |
| 13:02.06 | Xinhuan | you can use the /ignore thing |
| 13:02.10 | Codayus | I think a classic example of what Poul would be if you found an undocumented API command that let you click on or otherwise interact with 3d world objects...like WSG flags without a hardware event. |
| 13:02.12 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
| 13:02.13 | Poul|Raider | lol |
| 13:02.19 | Xinhuan | /ignore allows you to ignore players regardless of server/factin |
| 13:02.28 | Xinhuan | and that is exactly how it does it |
| 13:02.28 | Poul|Raider | ok, dint know |
| 13:02.28 | Lothaer | there is a way to communicate with them but u risk your account and im not gonna tell you how |
| 13:02.56 | Lukian | you could use facebook.. |
| 13:02.58 | Poul|Raider | but a good example to my question tho :DD aint that something blizzard would properly change/fix in a patch? |
| 13:03.02 | Lothaer | all ill say is if ur alliance and a horde is really pissing u off just type L t A A F |
| 13:03.06 | Codayus | (Classic not because it's ever been found, but because it keeps coming up as a "zomg my cousing friend's landlord told him he used a hax that did this !!1" |
| 13:03.18 | *** join/#wowace Spiffy (i=HydraIRC@129.21.131.247) |
| 13:03.39 | Lukian | I make friends with horde - I say 'me luv u' :p |
| 13:03.44 | Wobin | Xinhuan: Man, I hope you got some game time or something for that effort =) |
| 13:03.49 | Lothaer | i wonder how long until sum1 makes a TCG code generator... |
| 13:03.49 | Xinhuan | nah i didn't |
| 13:03.50 | Poul|Raider | and are you violating any of blizzards rules by useing an API like arenaScanner does? |
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| 13:04.00 | Spiffy | I just wanted to stop in here before the patch day rush and say I LOVE YOU GUYS |
| 13:04.01 | Wobin | Totally deserve it for the work you put into that report =) |
| 13:04.05 | Xinhuan | they did fix it within 24 hours though |
| 13:04.12 | Spiffy | whoever authored WAU is my hero |
| 13:04.20 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider: no |
| 13:04.37 | Wobin | Spiffy: PS, It will be interesting to see all the addons break =) |
| 13:04.50 | Lukian | Spiffy, I hate his choice of language, but it's better than any other updater :P so he gets kudos |
| 13:04.55 | Lothaer | actually most addosnw ork fine |
| 13:05.08 | Poul|Raider | ok Xinhuan, was what i was looking for. |
| 13:05.10 | Lothaer | i took all my normall addons to the PTR and only about 6 of them had problems |
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| 13:05.15 | Wobin | I heard there was some Cartographer/pitbull issues on ptr? |
| 13:05.34 | Spiffy | hehe... I'm hoping for a flawless update today... I've transitioned 90% of my addons to Ace managed ones and updated the others manually |
| 13:05.38 | Lothaer | most UF mods had issues |
| 13:06.01 | Codayus | Cart was bugging, yes. Elk Buff Bars was throwing errors a lot too. |
| 13:06.05 | Xinhuan | and yes, i do know at least 2 blizzard employees by name, the one in my email was in my guild |
| 13:06.12 | Codayus | I think all my other mods worked flawlessly on the PTR. |
| 13:06.36 | Lothaer | there was a fix for EBB |
| 13:06.41 | honem | spiffy : i have a blank addon set so I can disable all my addons very easily |
| 13:06.44 | honem | EBB ? |
| 13:06.50 | Lothaer | Elf Buff Bars |
| 13:06.53 | Wobin | Elkano Buff Bars |
| 13:06.54 | Lothaer | Elk* |
| 13:06.54 | honem | o |
| 13:07.01 | honem | lol |
| 13:07.06 | Codayus | EBB = Elk Buff Bars. It worked, it just threw errors about tracking. Looked like it should be a simple fix. |
| 13:07.06 | honem | elf buff bars ftw ! |
| 13:07.17 | Lothaer | yeah lol |
| 13:07.24 | Codayus | Cart wouldn't load at all though due to all the map changes I think. |
| 13:07.43 | Orionshock | wow Xinhuan you must know someone on the inside |
| 13:07.53 | Lothaer | any1 got a kick ass UI they wanna show? |
| 13:08.01 | Xinhuan | he's actually on the raid boss design team |
| 13:08.02 | honem | yep |
| 13:08.06 | honem | my terminal window |
| 13:08.07 | Codayus | Orionshock: He just SAID he did a minute ago... |
| 13:08.10 | Xinhuan | he quit my guild to join blizzard ~_~ |
| 13:08.19 | Xinhuan | he wasn't a employee until then |
| 13:08.22 | Orionshock | was busie reading it |
| 13:08.25 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:08.29 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 13:08.30 | Wobin | He got the loot he wanted |
| 13:08.32 | Wobin | and left =) |
| 13:08.41 | Xinhuan | he has the aq40 legendary bug mount, just like me hehe |
| 13:08.56 | Lothaer | Xinhuan, having a blizzard employee in ur guild would give u a advantage wouldnt it |
| 13:09.00 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 13:09.09 | Codayus | I had a guildie who worked for Valve. That's...ALMOST cool, right? :-( |
| 13:09.10 | Lothaer | like hes tell you all teh inside stuff, hpw to kill shit wtc |
| 13:09.19 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 13:09.20 | Xinhuan | nah he doesn't |
| 13:09.25 | Wobin | Not if they're good =P |
| 13:09.31 | Xinhuan | he would just tell you to STFU and read youtube videos |
| 13:09.31 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:09.37 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 13:09.49 | Wobin | How to kill stuff: Hit it with other stuff. |
| 13:09.54 | Lothaer | so he takes his job very seriously |
| 13:09.54 | Xinhuan | he did fix the bugs about titan flasks being pushed off the MT when you have > 32 buffs slots though |
| 13:09.56 | Orionshock | coworker of mine had a Blizzard Dev in his guild... |
| 13:09.57 | Lothaer | good for him |
| 13:10.01 | Kalroth | Why would he risk his job to share internal stuff with a guild? |
| 13:10.05 | Xinhuan | i gave him some reports on it |
| 13:10.50 | Xinhuan | do you remember? back in those days, your MT would lose his titans flask buff |
| 13:10.50 | Lothaer | tell him to report a problem with levitate |
| 13:10.50 | Xinhuan | or lose his defensive stanec |
| 13:10.50 | Orionshock | he gave a rather interesting story of a time back in WSG where a 19 group was put up vs a 60 group |
| 13:10.50 | Xinhuan | because too many buffs were on him |
| 13:10.50 | Codayus | Losing defensive stance was the BESTEST bug ever. |
| 13:10.50 | Kalroth | Yes Xinhuan |
| 13:10.51 | Wobin | "Uhh, whoops?" |
| 13:10.57 | Codayus | Since then you had no stance at all, and couldn't cast abilities. "I can't sunder!" |
| 13:10.57 | Xinhuan | i got him to fix it, the solution was to assign every buff a priority number |
| 13:11.08 | Lothaer | i hate it when i cast levitate at the wrong time and i stay underwater |
| 13:11.13 | Lothaer | waste of a reagent |
| 13:11.16 | Xinhuan | and the lowest priority buff gets pushed off, rather than the "last casted buff" - which was usually the flask |
| 13:11.20 | Xinhuan | followed by defensive stance |
| 13:11.20 | Kalroth | "Hay MT, why is Nefarian hitting you harder all of the sudden, did you break your shield?" |
| 13:11.24 | CIA-4 | 03shamino * r54482 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.toc: |
| 13:11.24 | CIA-4 | Auction-1.0: |
| 13:11.24 | CIA-4 | - updated for 2.3 patch |
| 13:11.27 | Xinhuan | since those are the only 2 buffs on you when you got ressed |
| 13:11.30 | Xinhuan | flask + stance |
| 13:11.42 | Lothaer | hers my UI http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/11kHeal.jpg |
| 13:12.02 | Lothaer | that pic serves 2 purposes :) |
| 13:12.06 | Codayus | I remember back when you could be swimming, hit levitate, jump, and end up above the water. |
| 13:12.12 | Codayus | I have no idea why they nerfed that. :-( |
| 13:12.26 | Xinhuan | the other guy i know does the programming for battle.net and wow login/authentication system |
| 13:12.30 | Wobin | Healing of the ages? |
| 13:12.31 | Xinhuan | he says that 3 people are on this team |
| 13:12.41 | Xinhuan | and these 3 people does all the programming for the login |
| 13:13.01 | dezzi | Codayus: you can still do that |
| 13:13.04 | Lothaer | when a tauren uses walk on water then can go under water and back ontop, if they cast in under water they can go out and walk on the water and even jump on water but priests using levitate just get stuck under water |
| 13:13.13 | dezzi | just have to time your levitate right as you exit the water |
| 13:13.19 | Lothaer | wobin its a green trinket |
| 13:13.20 | Wobin | cause you can't jump |
| 13:13.27 | Lothaer | Heavenly Inspiration |
| 13:13.27 | Wobin | while levitating |
| 13:13.33 | Wobin | but you can while water walking |
| 13:13.43 | Wobin | oh the lightning bolt looking one? |
| 13:13.46 | Codayus | dezzi: Yes, but the timing is tricky, and since I play from NZ with a LARGE ping... |
| 13:13.58 | Lothaer | no that would be Power Infusion |
| 13:14.08 | Codayus | Anyhow, you used to be able to jump while levitating if you were swimming. :-( |
| 13:14.12 | Wobin | eh? |
| 13:14.18 | Wobin | pi is the glowy head |
| 13:14.24 | CIA-4 | 03shamino * r54483 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell.toc: |
| 13:14.24 | CIA-4 | EnchantingSell: |
| 13:14.24 | CIA-4 | - updated toc for 2.3 patch |
| 13:14.43 | Codayus | I guess it was OP or something. Obviously game breaking. |
| 13:14.49 | Lothaer | i have Power Infusionm, Hibernation Crystal and Heavenly Inspiration going there |
| 13:15.05 | Lothaer | yeah the image is the glowing head lol |
| 13:15.29 | Codayus | Lothaer: Pity you wearn't a druid. Imagine what a rolling lifebloom stack would do... |
| 13:15.36 | Wobin | and the HEavenly Inspiration trinket looks like a lightning bolt |
| 13:15.36 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r54484 10Nauticus/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:15.36 | CIA-4 | Nauticus: |
| 13:15.36 | CIA-4 | - add a goblin zep master chat string to block filter list |
| 13:15.36 | CIA-4 | - add locales for the above |
| 13:15.36 | CIA-4 | - fix error when disabling / removing icons and Gatherer running |
| 13:15.50 | Lothaer | actuall i was haing a heal off with the paladin, he got a 20k LoH |
| 13:15.54 | Lothaer | >< |
| 13:16.24 | Wobin | well LoH is cheating |
| 13:16.31 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 13:16.42 | Wobin | I'd like to see him chaincast -that-! |
| 13:16.58 | Codayus | Well, PI and the trinkets are on cooldowns too... |
| 13:17.02 | Codayus | ....not the same thing though. |
| 13:17.39 | Lothaer | tinkets are 1.5mins and PI is 3mins i also use IF there which is also on a 3min CD |
| 13:17.49 | Lothaer | i love that maco |
| 13:18.02 | Lothaer | i also got a 2k smite crit the other day |
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| 13:19.20 | Lothaer | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=macro&m=506 is the macro i use |
| 13:19.24 | Ozguli | LoH? |
| 13:19.29 | Lothaer | Lay on Hands |
| 13:19.34 | Ozguli | o. |
| 13:19.44 | Lothaer | its a Paladin spell that uses all the mana they have for a big heal |
| 13:19.48 | Orionshock | :(( |
| 13:19.52 | Lothaer | means they can cast it with like 1mana left lol |
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| 13:20.25 | Lothaer | orion is it a messy API? |
| 13:20.44 | Ozguli | I know what it does |
| 13:20.50 | Lothaer | kk lol |
| 13:20.56 | Orionshock | more like i am saddened by the management implementation |
| 13:20.56 | Ozguli | just didn't recognize it... |
| 13:21.21 | Orionshock | the gbank api is much like the regular bank api iirc, just he management there of is fucked sideways.... |
| 13:21.57 | honem | yeah only 25 transactions logged ? |
| 13:21.59 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: to talk about the recycling problem again: why a author should use the table in var A again, after he has recycled it? |
| 13:22.30 | Orionshock | not just that , thy added that asinine idea of using gbank money to pay for repairs... |
| 13:22.31 | honem | it summarises them yes eg Holy Dust X 34 but c'mon only 25 ? |
| 13:22.32 | break19 | Lothaer: its not just a "big heal" it heals every HP you have. period.. how to make your LoH hit for more? get more hp |
| 13:22.48 | Orionshock | just WTF is wrong with them? designed by idiots to be given to the masses |
| 13:23.16 | honem | yeah poor guild leaders would have to add bazzillion ranks for when they want someone to be able to repair from guild money |
| 13:23.29 | Xinhuan | backbone87: he should not. but the possibility exists - author errors |
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| 13:23.31 | Tehehe | what? what do you mean? guild banks paying for repair bills is not rare |
| 13:23.32 | Orionshock | i see this happening with guild banks. |
| 13:23.36 | JoshBorke | backbone87: they shouldn't do it intentionally, mostly due to author errors |
| 13:23.37 | Tehehe | especially on learning nights |
| 13:23.40 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.56 | Orionshock | 2) everyone else will be shafted with what they had before - only rights to view and to deposit |
| 13:24.09 | Lothaer | actuall just create a new rank for the MTs to use, imho tanks should be the only class to use the Guild Bank to repair |
| 13:24.14 | Codayus | A lot of guilds might offer free repairs on wipe nights, especially to MTs. |
| 13:24.30 | Lothaer | MTs are supposed to take durability |
| 13:24.32 | Cheads | hmm are US getting 2.3 today? |
| 13:24.38 | Lothaer | and rogues but who cares about them |
| 13:24.39 | Orionshock | Codayus: then the GM should visit the bank and withdraw it himself and send it out over mail |
| 13:24.41 | CIA-4 | 03ananhaid * r54485 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:24.41 | CIA-4 | BigWigs: |
| 13:24.41 | CIA-4 | - zhCN update |
| 13:24.41 | Lothaer | ^^ |
| 13:24.41 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: yeah, but even if they reuse the var for a new table, the old reference is gone |
| 13:24.46 | Codayus | The current implmentation: Doesn't support wipe nights. Doesn't support MTs. Has no ability to set a limit for withdrawls AND reapirs together. |
| 13:25.02 | Xinhuan | backbone87: mistakes can happen, that was the point |
| 13:25.13 | Xinhuan | another variable could reference a table's subreference |
| 13:25.19 | Tehehe | you can easily change the access a rank has |
| 13:25.20 | Xinhuan | subtable* |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-4 | 03shamino * r54486 10MaterialsTracker/MaterialsTracker.toc: |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-4 | MaterialsTracker: |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-4 | - updated toc for 2.3 patch |
| 13:25.35 | Orionshock | Tehehe: ... ya right.. |
| 13:25.37 | Codayus | Tehehe: True, but I doubt many guilds run a special MT rank... |
| 13:25.42 | Poul|Raider | hmm, design point of view, if i want to make a table containing the last 5 killed mobs etc. What would be the best way to do so. register deaths, table.insert(tbl,1,{name="", time=int}) and tbl[5] = nil. each time one is inserted? |
| 13:25.44 | Xinhuan | in practice, it shouldn't happen |
| 13:25.44 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: something like that isnt a mistake, it's bulls*** |
| 13:25.46 | Tehehe | right before a learning night's raid, turn on bank-funded repairs for the raiding rank, and then after the raid turn it off |
| 13:25.48 | Codayus | And the guild rank interface is an abomination. |
| 13:25.56 | Orionshock | adding in a special MT rank is again asinine |
| 13:25.58 | Codayus | And always has been. |
| 13:25.59 | Xinhuan | refer to Arrowmaster's comment that it has happened before please. |
| 13:26.10 | Xinhuan | [11/13 20:24:07] <Arrowmaster> we've had table recycling libs before, they were discontinued and devs told to use their own recycling code in their addons because of all the problems that got caused |
| 13:26.18 | Tehehe | Codayus: I'm talking about guild-wide, not just MT. If you're just paying for the MT's repairs, it's not hard to mail money to 1-3 people. |
| 13:26.51 | Orionshock | *GM, Counsel, RaidLead/ClassLead +alt, Raider, Casual, Recruit & Alts |
| 13:26.53 | Codayus | Tehehe: Yes, it is possible to enable it just for a wipe night guild wide. It still has issues with the way the caps work. |
| 13:27.01 | Lothaer | well im off gonna get some Zs before the servers go up. |
| 13:27.08 | Orionshock | that's the way Blizzard's default is, and it's IMHO the best way to have a guild structure |
| 13:27.23 | Codayus | In short, I think most of the target population of raiding guilds will ignore the "pay for repairs" function; it's not powerful enough or fine grained enough. Which is a shame. |
| 13:27.36 | Orionshock | Codayus: it can't be |
| 13:27.38 | Orionshock | it never can be |
| 13:27.41 | Codayus | (Anyone played Eve? Now THAT is how you do a guild bank.) |
| 13:27.44 | Spiffy | sweet.. the forum logins are down too |
| 13:27.58 | Tehehe | The guild rank interface is indeed an abomination... it's terrible. I'm surprised no one has created a "guild management" addon. |
| 13:28.00 | Kerafyrm | (Codayus: Yes, and damn straight.. thats awesome) |
| 13:28.15 | Poul|Raider | and hmm, about ipairs/pairs() if tbl["var1"] = "var1", tbl["var2"] = "var2". Will any of them loop over em in same order as they are created, so taking tbl["var1"] before tbl["var2"] ? or is it just random? |
| 13:28.22 | Xinhuan | theehe: because there isn't a need to create/write one |
| 13:28.33 | Xinhuan | theehe* even |
| 13:28.38 | Xinhuan | nvm |
| 13:28.48 | Xinhuan | can't type today |
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| 13:29.01 | JoshBorke | Poul|Raider: pairs is random, ipairs is for integer indexed |
| 13:29.06 | Orionshock | the default ranks are just fine as is |
| 13:29.09 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider: random |
| 13:29.14 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 13:29.31 | cncfanatics | sigh /bored |
| 13:29.39 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, pairs is not random |
| 13:29.41 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.52 | cncfanatics | doing pairs 100000000000000 times on the same table will yield 100000000000 times the same order |
| 13:29.54 | Poul|Raider | cncfanatics, what is it then? |
| 13:29.55 | JoshBorke | local myIndex = 1; function addNewPlace() local info = tbl[myIndex] or {}; <do stuff with info>; myIndex = myIndex + 1; if myIndex > MAXENTRIES then myIndex = 1 end end |
| 13:29.56 | Xinhuan | there isn't a need to create a guildmanagement addon because once you set up the ranks properly once, you never need to do it again |
| 13:29.58 | Tehehe | that is very arguable... for example, just today I wanted to prepare for the guild bank system by creating a new rank for the guild bank characters (for special access rights), to be able to place that rank right below the Officer rank, I must demote each member of the guild one by one |
| 13:30.11 | Xinhuan | that is a very special case |
| 13:30.13 | cncfanatics | its semi-random, because for a certain table the order will always be the same |
| 13:30.14 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: what if the table changes? |
| 13:30.16 | Xinhuan | you only again, need to do this once |
| 13:30.18 | Tehehe | which led me to writing a quick addon to take care of that, but the servers went down before I could finish it |
| 13:30.21 | Codayus | Orionshock: Mostly, yes. If you ever want to split a rank, or swap two ranks, or move a rank...then it fails. Badly. |
| 13:30.32 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, then the same holds true for the new table |
| 13:30.33 | honem | Tehehe try the ptr |
| 13:30.39 | Xinhuan | writing the addon will probably take you a far longer than than mass promotion/demotion manually |
| 13:30.51 | balstor | so cncfanatics macros and flexbar2 getting fixed today ??? /poke /poke /poke |
| 13:30.52 | cncfanatics | though you can't predict the order if you don't know the lua C code (I don't btw) |
| 13:30.53 | Orionshock | @GuildBanker: then you should have been smart enough to begin with to put it there in the first place |
| 13:30.58 | Codayus | And the addon will still spam your members with 5 billion promote/demote messages. |
| 13:31.02 | cncfanatics | balstor, i'm at school, and patch is tomorrow in EU |
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| 13:31.11 | Xinhuan | tell them to bear with it for 5 minutes |
| 13:31.15 | Tehehe | that may be true, but it would be less error-prone than doing it by hand |
| 13:31.16 | Xinhuan | its not a big deal |
| 13:31.23 | cncfanatics | and balstor, I'm also lvl'ing my rogue to 70 :p |
| 13:31.28 | balstor | AAAGGGHHHH PAIN |
| 13:31.35 | Codayus | And why DO they have a hard cap (and such a small hard cap) on the number of ranks? |
| 13:31.41 | Orionshock | back in Ressurrected there was GM, GuildBank, Council + alt , Class Lead+alt, Raider, Casual, trial , Alts |
| 13:31.43 | cncfanatics | u'll have to wait a week or two, I'll just fix whatever makes FB stop working |
| 13:31.47 | Xinhuan | probably due to server database structure |
| 13:31.48 | cncfanatics | (is it working in 2.3 ?) |
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| 13:31.51 | Orionshock | and it covered it JUST FINE |
| 13:31.57 | JoshBorke | lua> local t1 = {bob = 1, fred = 2, george = 3} for k, v in pairs(t1) do str = str .. k end; print(str); t1['bob'] = nil; t1['jane'] = 1; str='' for k, v in pairs(t1) do str = str..k end; print(str) |
| 13:31.57 | cladbot | JoshBorke: [string "local t1 = {bob = 1, fred = 2, george = 3} ..."]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'str' (a nil value) |
| 13:32.08 | JoshBorke | lua> local str, t1 = '',{bob = 1, fred = 2, george = 3} for k, v in pairs(t1) do str = str .. k end; print(str); t1['bob'] = nil; t1['jane'] = 1; str='' for k, v in pairs(t1) do str = str..k end; print(str) |
| 13:32.09 | cladbot | JoshBorke: georgefredbob, georgejanefred |
| 13:32.09 | Orionshock | Codayus: and that in and of it'self is very bad |
| 13:32.24 | Orionshock | they found that it borked the GM position and randomly made others the GM |
| 13:32.55 | cncfanatics | whats the cap on rank amount ? |
| 13:32.58 | Xinhuan | 10 |
| 13:33.11 | Tehehe | it is indeed limited, but it isn't too bad |
| 13:33.16 | cncfanatics | silly stuff, why is that ? |
| 13:33.19 | Xinhuan | default guild starts with 5 definnd ranks |
| 13:33.23 | Xinhuan | defined* |
| 13:33.25 | Codayus | Orionshock: What did? |
| 13:33.26 | cncfanatics | I can't believe that more then 10 would break anything |
| 13:33.27 | JoshBorke | guild banks for alts! woot! |
| 13:33.41 | Tehehe | they have to put a limit somewhere |
| 13:33.47 | Xinhuan | they probably need database storage space if they had more ranks supported |
| 13:34.00 | Xinhuan | you still need somewhere to store rank name/rank permissions |
| 13:34.01 | Tehehe | and I'm sure someone at blizzard back in 2003 thought "no guild will ever need more than... 10 ranks! 10 it is" |
| 13:34.03 | Orionshock | rapid permotion / demotion caused the Authority-Of-THE-GUILD MASTER to move |
| 13:34.14 | Orionshock | not just (rank 1) |
| 13:34.27 | Codayus | Ah... |
| 13:34.29 | Codayus | Interesting. |
| 13:34.32 | cncfanatics | what a silly bug Orionshock :p |
| 13:34.34 | Orionshock | rank 1 isn't special , just traditionally reserved. |
| 13:34.37 | cncfanatics | makes u wonder how they made their system tbh |
| 13:34.55 | Codayus | My guild actually had that happen once. Two people were...sort of the GM at once. Weird as hell. |
| 13:35.00 | Xinhuan | well no game is perfect, its a rare bug at least |
| 13:35.02 | Orionshock | the Auth of the GM is not tied in any way to rank 1 |
| 13:35.12 | Codayus | A new recruit suddenly could talk on /o and appeared to have full GM powers. |
| 13:35.14 | cncfanatics | tbh, I wish multiple ppl could be GM at once |
| 13:35.27 | cncfanatics | I mean, without bugs :p |
| 13:35.29 | Arrowmaster | my friends alt got GM powers of our guild |
| 13:35.38 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: the only thing about the GM is like 4 slash commands, and the GuildControl window |
| 13:35.50 | Orionshock | other than that ... there isn't much beyond having all those boxes checked |
| 13:35.51 | Codayus | So yeah, their rank system is limited, clunky, annoying, spammy, and dangerously buggy. |
| 13:35.54 | cncfanatics | Orionshock, and gbank control next patch |
| 13:36.01 | Orionshock | & now that.. ya |
| 13:36.05 | cncfanatics | and setting rank permissions, and officer promotion |
| 13:36.09 | break19 | cncfanatics: yea.. makes those hubby/wife run guilds more.. acceptable at home.. |
| 13:36.19 | Orionshock | officer permotions are not limited to GM |
| 13:36.21 | Arrowmaster | it said he was an alt in the guildlist but the api for getting getting guildrank of unitid (like used on common inspect mods) said guild master |
| 13:37.04 | break19 | "uh. babe, why do *you* get to be GM, I thought it was OUR guild, we should -both- be.." "dont work like that then" "fine, make ME gm, or you're sleeping on the couch until you do" |
| 13:37.06 | cncfanatics | Orionshock, they are if its the highest rank except for GM |
| 13:37.11 | honem | "Codayus: My guild actually had that happen once. Two people were...sort of the GM at once. Weird as hell." <--- I'm sparticus ! no I'm sparticus |
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| 13:37.33 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: ... you can permote to your own rank btw.. |
| 13:37.44 | Codayus | But not to GM rank. |
| 13:37.54 | Orionshock | Codayus: there is no GM rank |
| 13:37.55 | cncfanatics | since when can an officer promote someone to officer ? |
| 13:38.01 | Orionshock | Rank 1 is not special |
| 13:38.08 | cncfanatics | only someone above officer would be able to |
| 13:38.19 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:38.23 | winkiller | you can declare a 2nd officer rank... |
| 13:38.34 | winkiller | and btw, isn't guildbank in 2.3? |
| 13:38.39 | Codayus | honem: It wasn't funny at the time... |
| 13:38.39 | cncfanatics | thats a pain in the ass ? and then a 2nd officer can't promote someone to 2nd officer, same issue |
| 13:38.43 | Orionshock | winkiller: yes and it's today |
| 13:38.51 | Wobin | :O |
| 13:38.54 | winkiller | tomorrow for us europeans :) |
| 13:38.58 | honem | *sob* |
| 13:39.01 | Codayus | Orionshock: Not special? Hm? |
| 13:39.03 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: re:Linux root authority |
| 13:39.16 | break19 | "hey dawg.. european on my truck!!!" |
| 13:39.17 | Wobin | Why do I bother with the background downloader? |
| 13:39.20 | cncfanatics | Wobin, what internet u use ? :o |
| 13:39.20 | Orionshock | Codayus: nope (Rank 1) is not special |
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| 13:39.29 | Wobin | iinet =) |
| 13:39.33 | Wobin | adsl2+ |
| 13:39.36 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 13:39.37 | break19 | cncfanatics: same one everyone else uses.. :p |
| 13:39.43 | cncfanatics | no he doesn't |
| 13:39.48 | cncfanatics | he wouldn't DL at 2mb/s if he did :p |
| 13:39.49 | Orionshock | Codayus: rank1 =/= "The Authority of The Guild Master" |
| 13:39.50 | break19 | yea.. its all the same internet.. I promise |
| 13:39.52 | Wobin | I guess we have a direct pipe to internode |
| 13:39.52 | cncfanatics | I download at 400kb/s -.- |
| 13:39.58 | Codayus | Orionshock: Um, in some ways, it definetly is. Or your using terms I don't understand... |
| 13:40.00 | Orionshock | it's an account lvl flag not a guild db flag |
| 13:40.17 | cncfanatics | guild master is an account flag ? |
| 13:40.21 | cncfanatics | what the crap ? |
| 13:40.22 | Codayus | Orionshock: No, it's not. |
| 13:40.25 | break19 | if it werent the same internet, you wouldnt see what he says. obviously :p |
| 13:40.26 | Orionshock | the Authority of the Guild Master is different than guild ranks, it's above it. |
| 13:40.39 | Tehehe | there is nothing special about any ranks, the Guild Master (defined by the owner of the guild, not what rank they are), is just able to change permissions of each rank |
| 13:40.44 | Orionshock | everyone in the guild can be Rank 1 in the guild, it's rather eazy |
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| 13:40.54 | Orionshock | and they are not all GM's |
| 13:40.59 | break19 | now.. he uses a different internet PROVIDER.. but the same internet, since the internet is simply a network of networks :) |
| 13:41.13 | Spiffy | so what's everyone planning on for ZA... attempt a heroic clear or just learn all the bosses? |
| 13:41.13 | honem | no wai man |
| 13:41.20 | honem | its a series of tubes ! |
| 13:41.26 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 13:41.30 | Wobin | I thought it was dump trucks |
| 13:41.42 | cncfanatics | break19, you got exactly what I ment and just felt like bitching right? |
| 13:41.45 | Orionshock | ya , the Authority of the GM, they have rights over rank control, G-Banks, /gdisband |
| 13:41.46 | break19 | meh.. dump trucks suck.. Semi's ftw :p |
| 13:41.56 | break19 | cncfanatics: i felt like being.. a smartass |
| 13:42.00 | break19 | big difference :P |
| 13:42.03 | cncfanatics | ur a bitch, not a smartass |
| 13:42.34 | Codayus | Orionshock: Um. If you use the guild control interface, rank 1 can only have 1 person in it, and they're always the GM...you're saying you can shift people into that rank who don't have GM powers? How? |
| 13:42.46 | Codayus | API command? |
| 13:42.47 | Orionshock | no |
| 13:42.47 | honem | <enables his addons on the ptr and loads them> |
| 13:42.52 | honem | *yes* |
| 13:42.55 | honem | no errors ! |
| 13:43.09 | honem | except for MQ ..its a little broken right now lol |
| 13:43.33 | cncfanatics | honem, could you test FB ? |
| 13:43.36 | Orionshock | Rank 1 is "Classically Reserved" for the Guild Master if only by default movement. if you remove all the ranks in a guild, then everyone is "rank 1" in the guild |
| 13:43.41 | honem | FB == ?? |
| 13:43.46 | Orionshock | you cannot remove the last rank |
| 13:43.47 | honem | im not physic man ;) |
| 13:44.02 | cncfanatics | FB == FlexBar |
| 13:44.03 | Orionshock | honem: it's cncfanatics , so FB is FlexBar |
| 13:44.25 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 13:44.25 | purl | it has been said that cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author |
| 13:44.29 | honem | kk ..im on the PTR btw |
| 13:44.43 | cncfanatics | purl, cncfanatics is also "<Orionshock> honem: it's cncfanatics , so FB is FlexBar" |
| 13:44.43 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 13:44.47 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 13:44.48 | purl | somebody said cncfanatics was the flexbar2 author, or "<Orionshock> honem: it's cncfanatics , so FB is FlexBar" |
| 13:45.00 | Orionshock | wft? |
| 13:45.02 | Orionshock | NOOO |
| 13:45.18 | Orionshock | don't put my name in your emulate.. |
| 13:45.24 | cncfanatics | lol, why not ? :o |
| 13:45.46 | Orionshock | b/c i'll re write it so that when it goes off i'll have atleast something to laugh at |
| 13:45.56 | Orionshock | and it won't be nice |
| 13:45.58 | Orionshock | :P |
| 13:46.03 | Codayus | Orionshock: So is there a way to have 2 ranks in the guild, where the GM is not the only person in one of them? |
| 13:46.15 | cncfanatics | Orionshock, then i'll change it back and lock it ? |
| 13:46.20 | Wobin | Codayus: yes |
| 13:46.25 | Wobin | if the GM is the only person in the other =) |
| 13:46.37 | Orionshock | lol |
| 13:46.42 | Codayus | Wobin: :-( |
| 13:46.51 | omega | GM isn't a rank is it? |
| 13:46.54 | omega | its just a one person thing? |
| 13:47.03 | Orionshock | the glitch here is the fact that one cannot promote to your own rank |
| 13:47.07 | honem | <loads FlexBar2 on the PTR> |
| 13:47.16 | honem | :( |
| 13:47.19 | Orionshock | so that is why Rank1 is reserved for the GM |
| 13:47.21 | honem | its burning down my house |
| 13:47.25 | Tehehe | It's very simple. GM is not a rank, but the GM starts at Rank 1. You cannot demote youreslf. You cannot promote anyone to your own rank. |
| 13:47.28 | honem | and stealing my gf |
| 13:47.41 | Tehehe | that should explain everything |
| 13:47.48 | cncfanatics | honem, that means its working perfectly as intented, any errors ? :p |
| 13:47.52 | Orionshock | you can glitch it by removing all ranks but yours thus making everyone Rank1 |
| 13:48.11 | Tehehe | okay, well apparently there's a bug that allows you to get around that |
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| 13:48.18 | Codayus | Tehehe: Ah, that makes sense. |
| 13:48.20 | Tehehe | but what i described is how the guild system was meant to work |
| 13:48.24 | Orionshock | ranks have a roll mechinuzm so if you remove rank10, all rank 10 move to rank 9 |
| 13:48.30 | honem | not yet havent got all of it installed yet |
| 13:48.44 | Orionshock | ... irc is addictive |
| 13:48.48 | Orionshock | ... |
| 13:48.54 | honem | irc > wow |
| 13:49.29 | Orionshock | honem: then rationalize this: if IRC > WoW and IRL is > WoW.. does that then make IRC == IRL ? |
| 13:49.29 | Codayus | You can't remove a rank with people in it... |
| 13:49.39 | Orionshock | Codayus: oh? |
| 13:49.57 | cncfanatics | Orionshock, then a guild with one person could remove all ranks |
| 13:50.11 | Orionshock | ... didn't say it was perfect, just do able |
| 13:50.32 | Xinhuan | what happens if you have a 1-man guild, remove all ranks, then ginvites someone |
| 13:50.36 | honem | cncfanatic : nope no errors in bug sack on load |
| 13:50.40 | Orionshock | they are rank 1` |
| 13:50.59 | Xinhuan | have you tried this before |
| 13:51.06 | honem | other than one in FocusFrame ...which is not your addon |
| 13:51.15 | Codayus | Hmm, I have a guild on the PTR, I guess I could test that in theory... |
| 13:51.22 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: if you cannot remove ranks with members in it then you cannot remove rank 1, as you MUST have a guild rank. |
| 13:51.37 | Codayus | But yeah, you can only delete the lowest rank, and you can't delete a rank with people in it. |
| 13:51.40 | Xinhuan | i never tried it |
| 13:51.42 | Orionshock | thus in a guild of 1 with 1 rank , if you invite someone they are automagically rank 1 |
| 13:51.45 | Codayus | (As I said, the guild interface REALLY sucks.) |
| 13:51.55 | RaydenUni | 2.3 up? |
| 13:51.55 | cncfanatics | honem, do /fb create button=1-10 |
| 13:51.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.15 | Codayus | Hm, I wonder, it might not even let you delete the next to last rank... |
| 13:52.29 | Orionshock | @ Chan OP , can we please change the topic to ward off /some/ of the stupid people? |
| 13:52.29 | Xinhuan | go test it Codayus |
| 13:52.29 | Codayus | Unless you've tested? |
| 13:52.49 | Codayus | Seems wrong to kick all these guildies...heh |
| 13:52.50 | Xinhuan | nobody has |
| 13:52.59 | Xinhuan | nobody cares, its PTR |
| 13:53.04 | Xinhuan | and it will be taken down soon enough |
| 13:53.08 | Tehehe | I was about to login PTR to test it... but I get a critical as soon as I try to login. Guess patching live messes the PTR :\ |
| 13:53.12 | kenlyric | heh, patch notes still say 20-60 for xp-per-level decreases. |
| 13:53.44 | Wobin | and 30-60 for quest xp increase |
| 13:53.50 | honem | ok loaded ..i put stuff on them too ...what next |
| 13:53.52 | Wobin | so it works both ways =) |
| 13:53.55 | kenlyric | is it not 30-60 for quests? |
| 13:54.02 | kenlyric | it's not 20-60 for level xp. |
| 13:54.06 | kenlyric | it's 10-60 |
| 13:54.08 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:54.09 | Wobin | no it's both |
| 13:54.12 | Codayus | It's even simpler than that. |
| 13:54.16 | honem | Tehehe : whats teh error ... as I'm on PTR now |
| 13:54.23 | Codayus | You can't delete ANY of the starting ranks. |
| 13:54.27 | Wobin | I thought it was 20-60 for the level xp decrease |
| 13:54.33 | cncfanatics | honem, that means it works :) |
| 13:54.56 | honem | but when i click those green square my beer doen't come out ;( |
| 13:54.58 | Tehehe | just a normal critical error... perhaps it is unrelated to the fact that I just patched live, but this is the first time I've seen it happen. |
| 13:55.01 | honem | wheres my beer ;( |
| 13:55.03 | Xinhuan | - The amount of experience needed to gain a level has been decreased |
| 13:55.03 | Xinhuan | between levels 20 and 60. In addition, the amount of experience |
| 13:55.03 | Xinhuan | granted by quests has been increased between levels 30 and 60. |
| 13:55.08 | Xinhuan | that's cut/pasted from the patch notes |
| 13:55.10 | Tehehe | As soon as I execute wow.exe, it closes with the critical |
| 13:55.11 | kenlyric | well, it's possible they changed it at the last minute, but people did tests for each level and it starts at 10 and scales up through 25 to the 18% decreawse. |
| 13:55.15 | Codayus | Guilds start with 5 ranks. You can add 5 lower ranks, and you can delete the 5 lower ranks, but you can never delete the starting ranks. |
| 13:55.19 | Codayus | Interesting. |
| 13:55.21 | Wobin | http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=13299 |
| 13:55.25 | Wobin | for the notes |
| 13:55.31 | honem | .... |
| 13:55.34 | Orionshock | Codayus: seriously? |
| 13:55.39 | honem | mmo-champion.com ftw |
| 13:55.43 | Codayus | Orionshock: Seriously. |
| 13:55.47 | kenlyric | wow.com has the patch notes. |
| 13:55.52 | Orionshock | you can't delete the top 5 ranks? |
| 13:55.54 | kenlyric | oh, nvm |
| 13:55.54 | Xinhuan | looks like all your theorycrafting is all wrong Orionshock :P |
| 13:55.57 | Codayus | I'm here looking at it, and there is no delete button for any rank. |
| 13:56.03 | kenlyric | still the test realm ones |
| 13:56.08 | Tehehe | rofl |
| 13:56.15 | Codayus | I can add a new rank...delete the rank... |
| 13:56.24 | Orionshock | well goes to show what logic can do when you've never fucked with the interface in any serious way :\ |
| 13:56.28 | cncfanatics | that sucks Codayus, blizz ftl |
| 13:56.34 | Codayus | I also reiterate my earlier claim. |
| 13:56.40 | Codayus | The guild rank interface REALLY sucks. |
| 13:57.00 | kenlyric | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level at the bottom are tests from the PTR. |
| 13:57.06 | Tehehe | Codayus: try messing around with GuildControlDelRank(index); |
| 13:57.16 | Cheads | are the US 2.3 live servers up yet? |
| 13:57.18 | Codayus | You can only add ranks to the bottom (up to a max of 10). You can only remove ranks from the bottom (down to a min of 10). You cannot split, merge, insert, or swap ranks... |
| 13:57.21 | Codayus | Tehehe: Okay |
| 13:57.29 | honem | wow good link wobin ...it has a mirror for the patch for those having problems with downloading the patch |
| 13:57.34 | Codayus | down to a min of 5, even |
| 13:57.34 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.45 | Wobin | yup that's where I got mine from |
| 13:58.12 | Codayus | Orionshock: Hm...no error... |
| 13:58.16 | Wobin | and discovered the pipe directly from the back of my computer to internode =P |
| 13:58.17 | Codayus | .....no ranks gone either. |
| 13:58.21 | Tehehe | add a rank |
| 13:58.22 | Orionshock | .. / "Downloading WoW Patches, it's an IQ Test .. did u pass? " / |
| 13:58.32 | Tehehe | and do /run GuildControlDelRank(6) |
| 13:58.32 | Codayus | It appears to be 0 indexed. |
| 13:58.38 | RaydenUni | so my desktop just downloaded the patch in like 3 seconds |
| 13:58.42 | Codayus | Added a rank, ran DelRank(5) and it's gone. |
| 13:58.43 | RaydenUni | it's going to take my laptop an hour |
| 13:58.44 | Wobin | Orionshock: I went directly to the back of the book =) |
| 13:58.47 | Orionshock | ya Codayus guild control functions only error on syntax |
| 13:58.58 | Codayus | Wait, DelRank...is acting odd. One sec. |
| 13:59.04 | Tehehe | try DelRank(4)! |
| 13:59.26 | Codayus | Correction, DelRank(anything) deleted an added rank. |
| 13:59.28 | Orionshock | Wob no wonder u failed the test |
| 13:59.35 | Codayus | DelRank(1) deletes the 6th rank. |
| 13:59.38 | Wobin | I had cheatnotes |
| 13:59.43 | Tehehe | oh, you know |
| 13:59.45 | Tehehe | that makes sense |
| 13:59.50 | Tehehe | because you can only delete the lowest rank anyway |
| 14:00.02 | Tehehe | in fact, I bet WoWWiki is just wrong and it does not take any parameters |
| 14:00.10 | Codayus | As does DelRank(19) |
| 14:00.18 | Codayus | Yes, that'd make perfect sense. |
| 14:00.24 | Xinhuan | that function probably takes no arguments |
| 14:00.24 | RaydenUni | you guys have any theories as to why afk reporting favored the Horde? |
| 14:00.28 | Codayus | Since you can only delete a single rank...duh. |
| 14:00.31 | Xinhuan | giving it arguments just gets thrown away |
| 14:00.41 | Tehehe | yeah |
| 14:00.46 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: because alliance only udnerstand how to zerg AV, and horde are better at it |
| 14:00.50 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, because now half the horde ain't afk anymore |
| 14:00.55 | Codayus | Anyhow, DelRank() deleted ranks 6-10, but not 1-5. |
| 14:01.02 | Orionshock | and alliance only won because of numbers |
| 14:01.02 | cncfanatics | and its now really 40vs40, leaving the alliance no chance |
| 14:01.07 | cncfanatics | they had a slight chance in 20vs40 |
| 14:01.09 | cncfanatics | but in a fair fight they die :p |
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| 14:01.58 | Xinhuan | "- Flying units can see ground units and vice versa at any altitude." |
| 14:01.59 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 14:02.08 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 14:02.13 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: but IMHO it's because of the age - average age of alliance is 12 years old, that's why they never afk'ed before. horde are classically older ~20ish |
| 14:02.13 | Xinhuan | when did that get into the patch notes |
| 14:02.24 | cncfanatics | that means that textures will be drawn for above the treshhold Xinhuan |
| 14:02.28 | Orionshock | why do u think they figured out that if they afk they get more honor |
| 14:02.33 | cncfanatics | or that the treshold only applies horizontaly |
| 14:02.38 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: right from the beginning. |
| 14:02.40 | Codayus | Hey, there's now a log of guild actions. Foo promotes Bar to Council |
| 14:02.49 | Codayus | When did that happen... |
| 14:02.53 | kenlyric | screw units, I want to know about herbs. |
| 14:02.56 | Xinhuan | last ptr patch Codayus |
| 14:02.59 | Orionshock | Codayus: where did that happend? |
| 14:03.00 | Codayus | Nice |
| 14:03.06 | Codayus | Guild Info page |
| 14:03.07 | Xinhuan | it was to prevent people from ninja promoting/inviting someone |
| 14:03.09 | Tehehe | a log? where is the log accessed from? |
| 14:03.10 | Codayus | Now has a Log button |
| 14:03.13 | Xinhuan | to access the guildbank |
| 14:03.14 | Tehehe | ooh, neat |
| 14:03.16 | Xinhuan | then take out stuff |
| 14:03.19 | Xinhuan | then gquit/delete char |
| 14:03.24 | Xinhuan | since that wipes the log |
| 14:03.29 | Xinhuan | for that char |
| 14:03.43 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: that's .... |
| 14:03.46 | Orionshock | fuckie' |
| 14:03.51 | Orionshock | and wrong |
| 14:03.54 | Codayus | Convoluted... |
| 14:03.54 | Xinhuan | you didn't know? :) |
| 14:03.57 | Codayus | It'll be nice anyhow. |
| 14:04.00 | kenlyric | http://filesharing.iu.edu/images/ayl_shirt.gif |
| 14:04.03 | kenlyric | this is amazing. |
| 14:04.04 | Codayus | Now if it would just log guild note changes... |
| 14:04.14 | Tehehe | I really don't like how each tab stores logs seperately, nor how only the last 25 actions are stored. |
| 14:04.17 | Orionshock | nn all |
| 14:04.25 | Codayus | 25 logs is....way too few, IMHO. |
| 14:04.30 | Grum | doh |
| 14:04.32 | Xinhuan | wait till you see 1 person donate 1 copper 25 times. |
| 14:04.35 | Grum | unlimited is to little in this case |
| 14:04.37 | Orionshock | Tehehe: one site |
| 14:04.38 | Xinhuan | it wipes the log |
| 14:04.41 | Orionshock | wdn.wowace.com |
| 14:04.42 | Orionshock | err |
| 14:04.48 | Orionshock | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 14:04.56 | Grum | Xinhuan: or just add/retrieve money :) |
| 14:05.04 | Grum | or your heartstone ;D |
| 14:05.14 | Xinhuan | you can put soulbound items in it |
| 14:05.16 | Xinhuan | cannot* |
| 14:05.18 | Orionshock | no |
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| 14:05.23 | Xinhuan | you also cannot put unique items in the guildbank |
| 14:05.25 | Tehehe | what am I looking at here? |
| 14:05.25 | Grum | then any stack of plants/stuff inside it |
| 14:05.25 | Codayus | Grum: Well...maybe. I mean, it'd add up. I'd have expected oh, 250 at a min, and probably more. |
| 14:05.36 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: like? |
| 14:05.43 | Grum | the limit must be so high that you cant possible easily attain it |
| 14:05.44 | Xinhuan | such as Plans: Sulfuron Hammer |
| 14:05.49 | Codayus | That being said, anyone who does spam the guild bank would be blamed for any lossage, right? |
| 14:05.53 | Xinhuan | it is a unique item |
| 14:05.56 | Xinhuan | and not bop |
| 14:06.08 | Orionshock | ic |
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| 14:06.20 | Codayus | The hard part comes from working out what they stole without a log, but still...just have a guild rule - spam the logs and get kicked. :-) |
| 14:06.24 | Tehehe | yes, but any level 1 invited alt/casual can spam with donations to cover up a withdraw |
| 14:06.38 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: can any deposit? |
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| 14:07.02 | Xinhuan | a guildrank can have 3 permissions related to the guildbank |
| 14:07.04 | omega | if your in a guild where people would steal from the guild, leave? |
| 14:07.10 | Xinhuan | they are 1. View 2. Deposit 3. Withdraw |
| 14:07.19 | Codayus | 25 donations looks suspicious though. |
| 14:07.20 | Xinhuan | giving them 2 or 3 automatically gives them 1 |
| 14:07.44 | Tehehe | that is for items, and for gold? |
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| 14:08.00 | Orionshock | Tehehe: iirc it's the same limit |
| 14:08.01 | Xinhuan | it applies to both |
| 14:08.05 | Xinhuan | its the same limit |
| 14:08.08 | Wobin | perhaps it should be done by a time period |
| 14:08.11 | Codayus | omega: As a GM, it's more a case of finding out if there are people in your guild that would so you can HELP them leave. :-/ Of course, I trust everyone in my guild. OTOH, it's a truism that only people you trust can betray you. :-) |
| 14:08.12 | Wobin | and not number of entries |
| 14:08.14 | Orionshock | 5 items or 5g? |
| 14:08.26 | Wobin | like "go back 2 weeks of logs" |
| 14:08.28 | Toadkiller | Can any Mac fanboy answer this please: YOu guys still only have 1 mouse button right? Right click is performed by doing ... what? |
| 14:08.31 | Xinhuan | there are 2 more numbers related to the guildbank - this is A) item withdraw limit B) gold withdraw limit |
| 14:08.40 | Grum | Toadkiller: applekey+click |
| 14:08.45 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: classically ctrl' |
| 14:08.48 | Xinhuan | but the permission 2 and 3 applies to both items/gold |
| 14:08.51 | omega | Toadkiller: ctrl-click |
| 14:08.56 | Grum | its stupid! |
| 14:08.59 | Grum | macs .. stupid! zomg |
| 14:09.06 | Toadkiller | Sweet, ok now how do Ctrl, shift & alt map into the mac world? |
| 14:09.12 | break19 | Toadkiller: clicking the right mouse button.. and no.. the mighty mouse has been shipping with macs for.. a LONG LONG time |
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| 14:09.15 | omega | but it supports more mouse buttons on external mouses |
| 14:09.20 | Codayus | My guilds current system is a bank alt that council has the password to...members mail items to the bank alt, council periodically pastes the contents to the forums, and mails out requested items. |
| 14:09.21 | Kerafyrm | how hard would it be for blizz to have the logs dumped to a file on a daily basis and said file mailed to GM's box |
| 14:09.23 | break19 | Toadkiller: and in wow, its command-click, not ctrl-click |
| 14:09.23 | omega | Toadkiller: ctrl-v, c etc map to apple-c,v |
| 14:09.30 | omega | Toadkiller: shit maps to the same |
| 14:09.33 | Codayus | So...the new guild bank system will let us smooth out the process a LOT. |
| 14:09.46 | omega | Toadkiller: alt is propper alt, it's 'alternative behavoiour" |
| 14:09.47 | Tehehe | that is exactly how we do it, codayus |
| 14:09.48 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: .. if you could favor the ignorant ... can you do a write up on the guild bank management system for us and put it in the blizzard UI forum? |
| 14:10.01 | Xinhuan | no, i don't have the time heh |
| 14:10.04 | Grum | ;) |
| 14:10.06 | Orionshock | ahh |
| 14:10.11 | omega | Xinhuan: copy-paste the irc log :p |
| 14:10.14 | Grum | are the servers up already btw? |
| 14:10.25 | Tehehe | by the way, as a GM, I highly recommend you put a withdraw limit on even your officers. you don't want 1 compromised account to destroy your entire bank |
| 14:10.25 | Kerafyrm | grum, sure they are |
| 14:10.26 | Xinhuan | don't really want to... remember i'm a guildmaster myself |
| 14:10.37 | omega | Toadkiller: ctrl usually means "control something" |
| 14:10.39 | Codayus | Now council rank will have withdrawl authority, all ranks can deposit. The "collect mail and paste contents" step is avoided, and we don't have to violate the TOU by sharing the bank account. |
| 14:10.42 | Xinhuan | so i know all the issues related to guildcontrol |
| 14:10.55 | Orionshock | lol |
| 14:11.04 | omega | Toadkiller: I find the mac usage of the ctrl, alt, meta/apple more consistent than on windows and linux |
| 14:11.10 | break19 | Toadkiller: but again, apple has been shipping the "Mighty Mouse" for a long time as standard equipment.. besides.. any multi-button USB mouse has worked since the USB bus was invented.. |
| 14:11.19 | Xinhuan | the PTR banks has a bug where the withdraw limit could be circumvented by relogging |
| 14:11.20 | Codayus | Still, I wish the interface was more fine grained. This lets us do what we currently do faster and easier, but the potential is almost there to let us do cooler stuff... :-/ |
| 14:11.23 | Toadkiller | I am trying to make sure I use mac enabled defaults for LibStickyFrames. Ok so if I understand correctly ctrl -> apple & its also the right click mechanism, so I can use shift & alt with no problem. |
| 14:11.24 | Orionshock | Codayus: yep - depite the additions of item and g withdraws that where added - teh BEST way to go about things is to keep it the way it was |
| 14:11.38 | Xinhuan | so if you had a 100g withdraw limit, you can withdraw 100g, logout login, withdraw 100g, repeat |
| 14:11.42 | break19 | Toadkiller: you can use ctrl with no problem as well.. |
| 14:11.44 | omega | Toadkiller: should be ok in wow, yes |
| 14:11.44 | Xinhuan | i wonder if that is fixed yet |
| 14:11.45 | Tehehe | Codayus: Hopefully people will stop getting their account flagged for exchanges of lage amounts of gold, I was always very scared when mailing money from the bank to myself. |
| 14:12.01 | omega | since blizzard uses apple-click for right click |
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| 14:12.05 | Toadkiller | Yes but ctrl means apple means right click right? |
| 14:12.10 | Xinhuan | how large is "large amounts of gold"? |
| 14:12.19 | omega | Toadkiller: not in wow |
| 14:12.24 | Tehehe | 10k+ |
| 14:12.25 | Toadkiller | Oh |
| 14:12.25 | break19 | Toadkiller: not while wow is running (and most games for that matter) |
| 14:12.34 | Codayus | Yeah...sharing accounts can get you banned, and moving gold around can be just as bad. Safer and faster. |
| 14:12.44 | Toadkiller | Mmm, ok so how do you do right click in wow oin a mac? |
| 14:12.59 | break19 | most every game I've played has translated ctrl-click to an actual control-click.. while apple-click is right-click |
| 14:13.05 | Orionshock | but the thing is the g bank withdraw is set at what 10k? 1k? |
| 14:13.12 | break19 | Toadkiller: if you have a new mac, or a 3rd party mouse.. you.. right click |
| 14:13.16 | backbone87 | Toadkiller: strg + click |
| 14:13.28 | Tehehe | when I tested on the PTR I was able to set the limit to "999999999..." |
| 14:13.31 | Xinhuan | its initially set at no value, meaning no limit |
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| 14:13.38 | omega | Toadkiller: apple-click |
| 14:13.38 | Tehehe | and wasn't able to find a limit |
| 14:13.39 | Codayus | Our initial plan is to not give withdrawl permissions to anyone but the 4 people who knew the old guild bank accounts password. :-) |
| 14:13.39 | Toadkiller | Yeah I know if u actually have 2 buttons its no problem, but some macs have 1 button mice right? |
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| 14:13.52 | omega | yeah, touchpad on laptops |
| 14:14.02 | omega | everywhere else is basicly multi-button |
| 14:14.06 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: mouse |
| 14:14.08 | omega | since they ship with mightymouse |
| 14:14.08 | break19 | Toadkiller: apple/command/strg-click |
| 14:14.09 | Xinhuan | i'm pretty sure wow is designed to be played on a mouse with at least 2 buttons :) |
| 14:14.17 | Poul|Raider | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.25 | Xinhuan | so anyone that doesn't have such a mouse can get fucked |
| 14:14.29 | kd3|still`lagged | new LIVE build: 7561 (no difference from PTR 7561). diff at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 14:14.46 | Xinhuan | new LIVE build: 7561 (no difference from PTR 7561). <-- lol? |
| 14:14.47 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Ok I like your thinking I think |
| 14:14.55 | break19 | but really.. a $5 multi-button USB mouse works fine on any mac :) |
| 14:14.59 | Orionshock | kd3|still`lagged: bot? |
| 14:15.07 | kd3|still`lagged | nope |
| 14:15.09 | Xinhuan | 7561 obviously has no differences from 7561 |
| 14:15.14 | Orionshock | kk just wondering |
| 14:15.15 | omega | the point for Toadkiller isn't that HE should have a multi button mouse I think? |
| 14:15.25 | Toadkiller | Ok so im gonna pretend there is no issue then. Tx guys! |
| 14:15.25 | omega | its that HE wants to be sure HIS addon works by default with one mouse button |
| 14:15.28 | omega | which is sane |
| 14:15.32 | Orionshock | god sleep is needed |
| 14:15.34 | Orionshock | night all |
| 14:16.17 | break19 | omega: yes, but wow itself takes care of that problem since you cant bind any combo keys using the apple-key, and apple-click is interpreted as a right click, as I've stated.. numerously now. :) :) |
| 14:16.30 | Xinhuan | well, i'm fairly sure many objects in wow cannot be interacted with in any way except by right-click |
| 14:16.33 | Xinhuan | such as looting a corpse. |
| 14:16.57 | Codayus | Yes, but, I believe the point is that apple-click *IS* a right-click...it's handled at the OS level. Not so? |
| 14:17.07 | Xinhuan | so it isn't an issue! |
| 14:17.08 | break19 | Codayus: no. not so |
| 14:17.16 | break19 | its handled by the game |
| 14:17.17 | omega | wow handles it |
| 14:17.18 | Codayus | Ah? |
| 14:17.21 | Codayus | Okay. |
| 14:17.23 | omega | in the OS its ctrl-click |
| 14:17.28 | omega | in the game its apple-click |
| 14:17.28 | Codayus | <-- Not an apply user |
| 14:17.33 | Codayus | EITHER WAY |
| 14:17.36 | Codayus | Not an issue. :-) |
| 14:17.57 | break19 | exactly :) |
| 14:18.15 | break19 | Toadkiller: can I safely assume by the question, that you're gonna be adding multiple clicks to autobar? :) |
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| 14:19.07 | Toadkiller | break19: You mean double click for some action? |
| 14:19.31 | break19 | left click aspects, cast default aspect, right click, cast aspect of pack(configurable), ctrl-click=hawk etc, that'd be perfect :) |
| 14:19.52 | break19 | and yea.. double-click stuff would be nice as well.. |
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| 14:20.21 | Poul|Raider | anyone that could help filling out the regex for local _,_, deadNPC = string.find(arg1,"() is slain by ()"); want deadNPC to hold the name of the mob that dies. |
| 14:20.30 | break19 | oh.. btw.. you know what's missing? warlock pets.. perfect for an autobar button.. :) |
| 14:20.40 | Toadkiller | break19: YEah thats all on the todo list. Also, left click drink, right click conjure, middle click trade a stack for mages |
| 14:21.28 | Toadkiller | -- AutoBarButtonSummonPet: for hunters mages shamans warlocks priests druids? |
| 14:21.30 | Xinhuan | Poul|Raider: do that ingame |
| 14:21.31 | break19 | so far I'm likin the new one.. just wish the little drag button was back.. my wife wont use the new one because of that. :) |
| 14:21.51 | Toadkiller | not done yet &for Boomkins it summons their "Pets" |
| 14:21.59 | break19 | yea.. that'd be perfect. :) |
| 14:22.02 | Xinhuan | most of us don't deal with combat log addons |
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| 14:22.22 | break19 | on hunters, if it could revive/summon (doesnt need to detect which, let the user pick the right one) |
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| 14:22.58 | Toadkiller | break19: so left click summon, right click revive? |
| 14:23.16 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: check the globalstrings.lua from someplace like wdn.wowinterface.com to find out what var that string is in and just use that var |
| 14:23.33 | break19 | Toadkiller: perfect, and/or popup buttons |
| 14:23.42 | break19 | in the form of the tracking stuffs |
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| 14:24.42 | Kalroth | I want multiple drag buttons! |
| 14:24.48 | Toadkiller | break19: YEah, so actually eventually popups + the various clicks for the common ones. |
| 14:24.58 | Toadkiller | Kalroth: what od you mean? |
| 14:25.04 | break19 | yep yep |
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| 14:25.20 | Kalroth | I'm not sure, I just like dragging stuff around |
| 14:25.35 | break19 | heh |
| 14:26.09 | Toadkiller | so what, left button drag & right button drag? |
| 14:26.09 | Kalroth | Actually what I needed back when I used it was something a little bigger than that tiny green dot :) |
| 14:26.11 | Toadkiller | THe dot is gone, you drag the whole bar now bartender3 style... |
| 14:26.15 | Kalroth | Oh! |
| 14:26.24 | Kalroth | Ignore me then, it's all good :p |
| 14:26.27 | Poul|Raider | hmm, Xinhuan how would i test what i need to put in as the regex ingame? looking for something like ([^%s]+) |
| 14:26.34 | Kalroth | I like how Bar3 does it |
| 14:26.37 | Codayus | If anyone still cares about the guild rank conversation... |
| 14:26.39 | Codayus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531115353 |
| 14:26.44 | break19 | ya, but some people like the simplicity of the little green dot :) |
| 14:26.54 | Kalroth | Codayus: known exploit |
| 14:26.58 | Xinhuan | "(.*) is slain by (.*)." |
| 14:27.05 | Poul|Raider | k tx |
| 14:27.09 | Xinhuan | "(.*) is slain by (.*)%." |
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| 14:27.15 | Xinhuan | i forgot . is a special char |
| 14:27.17 | Kerafyrm | i wanna sleep before the servers up but this damn poker game keeps me attached to it |
| 14:27.23 | Xinhuan | so you need to escape it with a % |
| 14:27.27 | Codayus | Someone had a disastisfied member /diband their guild while they were in the middle of a raid, then had it reformed under their noses to mock them...and GMs wouldn't help. Wow, that sucks. Oo |
| 14:27.45 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, . is all chars? and * is 1 or more of them? |
| 14:27.50 | Grum | wth doesnt that url work here O.o |
| 14:27.57 | Xinhuan | . represents 1 char (any char) |
| 14:28.01 | Toadkiller | Also, BT3 &AutoBar both use StickyFrames. I am busy turning it into LibStickyFrames which will add sticking (or docking if u like) to the interface + a registration mechanism so the dragging & snapping & sticking all happen to all registered frames. |
| 14:28.10 | Xinhuan | the * after it implies 0 or more chars of the prev char |
| 14:28.15 | Poul|Raider | k |
| 14:28.29 | Kalroth | Codayus: uh, why don't you think it was the exploit that was only recently found/fixed? |
| 14:28.43 | Xinhuan | by the way, i'm not sure if the sentence ends with a fullstop |
| 14:28.46 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, the % is what then? |
| 14:28.48 | Xinhuan | it could be an exclaimation mark |
| 14:28.53 | Xinhuan | % is the escape code |
| 14:28.53 | nevcairiel | Toadkiller: so i will be able to stick two bars together, and when i move one, both move? |
| 14:29.01 | Poul|Raider | Xinhuan, ahh escape char |
| 14:29.02 | Xinhuan | in most regexes, this is commonly \ |
| 14:29.06 | Xinhuan | but in lua, its % |
| 14:29.06 | Poul|Raider | tx :D |
| 14:29.14 | nevcairiel | lua patterns are weird |
| 14:29.21 | nevcairiel | dunno why they didnt go with regex |
| 14:29.42 | Xinhuan | someone saif its because if they go with normal regexes, the resulting lua regex core will be larger than the lua core itself |
| 14:29.49 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 14:29.56 | Xinhuan | making it very hard to use in a embedded memory-use issue |
| 14:29.56 | nevcairiel | possible |
| 14:29.58 | Xinhuan | in small systems |
| 14:30.13 | Xinhuan | like a washing machine or something |
| 14:30.16 | Xinhuan | who knows! |
| 14:30.25 | Xinhuan | or a micromouse |
| 14:30.28 | nevcairiel | ya have to remember that lua aims for a wide range of systems |
| 14:30.40 | Toadkiller | Yeah but the world needs a unique &different regexp for each new language & application that has search, otherwise its creators cannot come up with the same shit but smelling slightly differently every time |
| 14:31.34 | Toadkiller | Yes but they could have done just a subset of regexp & then added their few new twists |
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| 14:32.04 | Toadkiller | Its like windows being retarded &doing crt-lf instead of perfectly fine existing mechanisms |
| 14:32.45 | nevcairiel | every system has its own implementation of newline |
| 14:33.07 | nevcairiel | windows crlf, unix only lf .. mac only cr.. or was that the other way around? |
| 14:33.13 | Toadkiller | Its like the hello world of systems. How can I change things just for the sake of change? |
| 14:33.33 | Toadkiller | mac uses both but they mean soft & hard returns ;-p |
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| 14:34.24 | Arrowmaster | not sure what new macs use but the old macs deffently only used one and it was the oppossite of whichever unix uses |
| 14:35.05 | Toadkiller | Arrowmaster: yes. but they also use the other one to mean break the line but not actually end the line. |
| 14:35.25 | Toadkiller | As in do a word wrap. iirc |
| 14:35.35 | Arrowmaster | weird |
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| 14:35.50 | Toadkiller | But my mac days are a long time ago now |
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| 14:37.21 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: yes you will be able to stick frames together. I am also stealing some LegoBLock & FLyPaper code to make those stuck together items drag as a group by dragging just one of their memebers |
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| 14:42.05 | xyu | wow, woke up late as hell for my test today. i hate sleep walking and turning off the alrm |
| 14:43.52 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: I am still working on the sticking stuff, but the old snapping stuff works already. So if u upgrade BT3 to use LibStickyFrames then both AutoBar & Bartender3 will be able to snap together. I still need to add a callback mechanism that puts all registerd mod's frames into drag mode (UnlockBars in the case of BT3 & AutoBar) when any of them enters drag mode |
| 14:44.35 | Toadkiller | I will probably have that done & ready for testing by the time the patch is done. |
| 14:45.40 | break19 | if you mean 2.3, then wow.. you're fast.. since the patch is done :p |
| 14:46.23 | break19 | servers aint back up yet tho.. is that what ya meant? |
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| 14:50.35 | cogwheel | Best. Idea. Evar. … patcherpatcherpatcher.com - a flash animation with a bunch of WoW patchers that pop up as it sings "patcher patcher patcher patcher...," then the download window pops up to "Download download" and back to "patcher patcher patcher." Later, "PANIC IT STOPPED! Stopped, it stopped, oooooh why'd it stop? it's a patcher patcher" |
| 14:50.52 | cogwheel | meant that for another channel but at least you guys play WoW |
| 14:51.22 | Kivin | lol cog |
| 14:51.27 | Kivin | that made my morning |
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| 14:51.31 | Kivin | <3 |
| 14:51.33 | Nefarion | lol |
| 14:51.39 | kenlyric | having 1000 different wow blogs in my newsreader is fun because they all post patch notes. |
| 14:52.07 | Kivin | since it's so hard to go to the offical site and click the "recent patch notes" button right on the front page. lol. |
| 14:53.19 | break19 | aint worthing for me, cog |
| 14:53.42 | cogwheel | break19: you been to http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com ? |
| 14:54.09 | kenlyric | uh |
| 14:54.15 | break19 | that one works |
| 14:54.23 | break19 | the other one just says the site doesnt exist |
| 14:54.25 | kenlyric | lol at someone trying to make money off of badgers. |
| 14:54.39 | Kivin | Cogwheel... A month or so back, I mentioned on the UI forums about writing an actionbar addon that doesn't depend on the factory 120 action ids, and was told that 2.3 would allow this... do you know that to still be the case? |
| 14:55.07 | Fritti | cogwheel: rofl, you should totally make that |
| 14:55.26 | cogwheel | Kivin: sure is. Maul's got it in his 2.3 version of Trinity Bars |
| 14:55.47 | break19 | cogwheel: oh, so its just in the "idea" phase still.. man.. I wanted to see it lol |
| 14:55.57 | cogwheel | Fritti: i totally would if a) i knew how to do Flash and b) i had any spare time :P |
| 14:55.57 | winkiller | I never check the us page |
| 14:56.01 | Kivin | holy smokes, it's already been implemented |
| 14:56.07 | winkiller | don't think we got the patchnotes already |
| 14:56.18 | winkiller | and they most always miss so much stuff in there |
| 14:56.25 | winkiller | useless anyway to read official patchnotes |
| 14:57.05 | cogwheel | Kivin: quite a few people have been working on it since a few patches ago but there were certain missing APIs that held up development. Most of the framework was already in place so yeah... it was pretty quick turnaround :) |
| 14:57.33 | nevcairiel | i still think noone needs more then 120 buttons |
| 14:57.40 | nevcairiel | but thats just me *shrug* |
| 14:57.46 | balstor | kivin cogwheel : Flexbar2 does this already |
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| 14:58.00 | Kivin | nev, it isn't a matter of having 121+ buttons, for me. it was the issue of having to carfully map out my 120 buttons for modifier keys |
| 14:58.00 | Fritti | I use only 72 with a bit of alt+key-is-different-from-key macro-ing |
| 14:58.36 | Rafael | . |
| 14:58.44 | Kivin | now that the 120 hard cap is a no-issue, i don't have to grid out all my buttons and make sure i've got no overlapping action IDs |
| 14:59.19 | break19 | 120 buttons/12buttons per bar = 10 bars.. now.. 4 druid forms, 3 bars per form.. wait.. that wont work.. thats 12 bars.. oops. |
| 14:59.21 | nevcairiel | Oh well, good that we have so many addons so that everyone can use what he needs |
| 14:59.35 | Kivin | TrinityBars still says 120 unique buttons |
| 14:59.37 | nevcairiel | who needs 3 bars per form o.O |
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| 14:59.46 | Toadkiller | So what was enabled? having an action button that refers not to 1-120 but a particular type --- spell, item, macro ? |
| 14:59.57 | nevcairiel | that worked before 2.3 already |
| 15:00.02 | break19 | nevcairiel: me :) |
| 15:00.15 | nevcairiel | wtf do you do with 36 buttons in bear form?^^ |
| 15:00.23 | balstor | ability to query a macro and get back the spell to represent the cooldown etc, was the big thing in 2.3 |
| 15:00.44 | Toadkiller | well theres feral charge rank 1, feral charge rank .. oh nm theres on ly feral charge. |
| 15:00.44 | break19 | I have empty buttons to hide buttons I dont need in bear form. :p |
| 15:00.52 | balstor | breaking the 120+ button limit has been done for a while |
| 15:01.03 | Kivin | not according to cogwheel :P |
| 15:01.12 | cogwheel | no, it has |
| 15:01.25 | Kivin | Then there's something I'm not understanding |
| 15:01.27 | balstor | flexbar2 has it done since at least... |
| 15:01.28 | cogwheel | but it was limited by some missing apis |
| 15:01.46 | Toadkiller | balstor: I dont think so. THere were workarounds to support specific things... |
| 15:01.55 | balstor | no |
| 15:02.03 | cogwheel | Recreating the exact behavior of action buttons without actions was impossible |
| 15:02.17 | CIA-4 | 03cwdg * r54491 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-zhCN.lua: FuBar_BagFu: fix zhCN local bug |
| 15:02.21 | balstor | there are limitations to do it but it has worked since febuary or march |
| 15:02.41 | Toadkiller | 120 buttons are saved to blizzard servers. there is no getting around that... |
| 15:02.42 | Kivin | Curious, what was changed/added to the API |
| 15:02.43 | xyu | pactcherpatcherpatcher |
| 15:02.59 | balstor | limitations include: Unable to change button in combat / Unable to get cooldown on macros |
| 15:03.01 | Kivin | patcherpatcherpatcherpatcher, download, download |
| 15:03.04 | nevcairiel | oh well, i will keep using and working on bartender :) |
| 15:03.32 | xyu | i use 12 buttons total |
| 15:03.34 | nevcairiel | changing buttons in combat has been disabled for action ids now too :( |
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| 15:03.41 | nevcairiel | xyu: rogue or hunter? |
| 15:03.44 | Toadkiller | oh man that ppart sucks! |
| 15:03.47 | xyu | mage |
| 15:03.55 | xyu | the only reason i even use those 12 is to display cooldowns |
| 15:03.55 | nevcairiel | lvl 10 ? :P |
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| 15:04.02 | xyu | no, i hotkey EVERYTHING :D |
| 15:04.15 | nevcairiel | i have anything i need in combat hotkeyed |
| 15:04.16 | xyu | even amplify magic |
| 15:04.16 | Kivin | So what it boils down to is, if I download the latest TrinityBars addon, I don't need to worry about my modifier bars overlapping visible bars |
| 15:04.20 | Toadkiller | I always swap in a special button on Solarian & a few other bosses. but no longer. If I forget its click the button city! |
| 15:04.20 | nevcairiel | all other stuff, like buffs, i dont |
| 15:04.56 | nevcairiel | Toadkiller: i might have a way around it for bartender .. but not sure how i can implement it in bt3, will make bt4 tho' |
| 15:05.08 | xyu | buffs i use keys I, for intellect, shift I for brilliance, u for ice shield, shift u for motlen, ctrl u for ...you get the idea |
| 15:05.09 | xyu | :) |
| 15:05.26 | xyu | since i'm not really casting those mid combat too often |
| 15:05.30 | balstor | the big thing with the flex ids that addons like flexbar2 gives is profiles that you can shift. So you can make entire'y diffrent UIs for diffrent bosses and since it doesn't use the 120 buttons your buttons stay as you set them |
| 15:06.40 | balstor | I do that to have a prot and pvp setup which makes respecing every weekend a little faster |
| 15:07.02 | xyu | yeah that's a good idea |
| 15:07.13 | Kivin | I haven't used flexbar since 1.6, heh... for the longest time, it wasn't working after 2.0 IIRC... is it stable? |
| 15:07.30 | xyu | yeah me either |
| 15:07.34 | xyu | it used to lock my screen for a second |
| 15:07.41 | xyu | like it was loading something |
| 15:07.52 | balstor | yhea it's stable up to last night haven't tried it in 2.3 but cnc said ealier he would fix issues caused by 2.3 tomrrow |
| 15:07.53 | xyu | i liked it a lot though, even though it took me 2 hours to set up all the buttons the way i liked them. |
| 15:08.11 | Kivin | nev, is bt3 2.3 stable? |
| 15:08.14 | balstor | ~last cncfanatics |
| 15:08.17 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: nice. whens bt4 shipping ;-p |
| 15:08.27 | balstor | !last cncfanatics |
| 15:08.35 | Kivin | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 15:08.41 | purl | cncfanatics <i=5152e615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-c5ce88335e051adb> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 6m 8s ago, saying: 'or that the treshold only applies horizontaly'. |
| 15:08.41 | xyu | ~seen |
| 15:08.43 | balstor | brumble grumble grumble |
| 15:09.15 | nevcairiel | Toadkiller: not that soon tbh :P |
| 15:09.21 | xyu | i wish my seen would have a nice saying, it'd probably be something like "lol" or something stupid |
| 15:09.29 | xyu | because that's all i say |
| 15:09.34 | nevcairiel | Kivin: i think so, didnt find any bugs |
| 15:09.42 | Kivin | groovy, baby |
| 15:10.00 | Kivin | As long as Pitbull and BT3 don't croak, I'll be a happy panda when the servers come live |
| 15:10.52 | dezzi | let me guess what cncfanatics does for a living |
| 15:11.13 | dezzi | computer numeric control machining? |
| 15:11.27 | balstor | school actually |
| 15:11.36 | dezzi | oh? |
| 15:11.41 | balstor | yhea |
| 15:11.48 | dezzi | would have taken him for a 30something who works on an old-ass CNC Machine lol |
| 15:11.54 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:12.04 | balstor | he gets the 30 something comment a lot |
| 15:12.20 | dezzi | I got the chance to work on one of those in highschool |
| 15:12.30 | dezzi | had to learn a bit of BASIC to use it |
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| 15:12.50 | dezzi | I think it was qbasic to be specific? been awhile |
| 15:13.17 | Bruners | was the 2.3 patch aired in us ? |
| 15:13.23 | Kivin | yes, sir |
| 15:13.44 | Kivin | servers go live in 4h |
| 15:13.51 | Bruners | cool |
| 15:14.04 | balstor | yhea I will be logging in to 2.3 in about 5 hours (servers are down) |
| 15:14.07 | nevcairiel | is the patch download up yet? |
| 15:14.15 | Kivin | i've already got it installed |
| 15:14.21 | Nefarion | installed here |
| 15:14.34 | nevcairiel | anyone able to link final patch notes? :P |
| 15:14.45 | balstor | check mmo-champion |
| 15:14.49 | Kivin | if you pre-downloaded the ~200mb file that's been distributed on the bliz downloaded for the last week and a half, run your wow client and it should pick up the last 7megs and install |
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| 15:15.17 | nevcairiel | i am EU :P |
| 15:15.28 | Amadeo | Alright, who predicts extended downtime |
| 15:15.28 | Kivin | d'oh |
| 15:15.30 | nevcairiel | mmo-champion only has PTR notes |
| 15:15.40 | nevcairiel | i want to check for diffs in final :) |
| 15:15.48 | Bibi | damn |
| 15:15.50 | Kivin | chotto matte |
| 15:15.52 | Bibi | I forgot to update the index.html |
| 15:15.55 | Bruners | 2.3 is coming tomorrow, I guess it's a good time to post the final version of the 2.3 compilation |
| 15:15.58 | Bibi | www.mmo-champion.com/index.php has final notes nevcairiel |
| 15:16.00 | Bruners | says mmochamp |
| 15:16.03 | Kivin | oh, it deleted my patchfile, i was going to run it and copy & paste :P |
| 15:16.28 | nevcairiel | Bibi: ah thanks |
| 15:16.29 | Funkeh` | When does US shut down? |
| 15:16.39 | Tehehe | 4 hours ago |
| 15:16.39 | Plagous | already has |
| 15:16.49 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 15:16.50 | Kivin | 3-11AM PST |
| 15:16.52 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 15:17.02 | Nefarion | haha good laugh: http://www.war-tools.com/?p=vt&i=43152&link=yes -- revised talent description for warlocks for better accuracy |
| 15:17.13 | Funkeh` | They are up in 4 hours? |
| 15:17.38 | Amadeo | Funkeh`: If you believe they'll really be up on time :) |
| 15:17.58 | Funkeh` | well Amadeo there isn't really any drastic changes |
| 15:18.07 | sb | nevcairiel: wtb diff on pastey ;p |
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| 15:18.17 | rubik | did they fix the broken GCD? |
| 15:18.18 | Amadeo | it's a big patch |
| 15:18.22 | Plagous | Nefarion: lol, nice |
| 15:18.30 | Nefarion | some of the are hilarious. |
| 15:18.32 | balstor | ths comic is sooooooo true http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/11/comic0009-final.jpg |
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| 15:18.44 | Funkeh` | which hopefully most people already have via the background downloader Amadeo |
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| 15:19.19 | Amadeo | Funkeh`: eh? I predict the servers will come up on time, then be brought down shortly after for emergency maintenence |
| 15:19.29 | kadrahil | Funkeh`: my background downloader never did anything since the last patch :( |
| 15:19.34 | Kivin | The world is your oyster - wet and clammy, and a bit constrictive. BUT YOURS |
| 15:20.01 | rubik | if they didn't fix the GCD issue there will be outrage |
| 15:20.06 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 15:20.22 | kadrahil | i really hope that isn't broken |
| 15:20.34 | kadrahil | shot rotation macros = broken |
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| 15:20.42 | kadrahil | or did they fix that part? |
| 15:20.51 | rubik | heh... or tanking.. or any melee |
| 15:20.58 | rubik | white hits only is teh suck |
| 15:21.15 | kadrahil | are you talking about all the server side checks it does? |
| 15:21.24 | Rafael | i was on PTR last night with my hunter and my normal shot-rotation macro that I use on live worked just fine |
| 15:21.33 | kadrahil | Rafael: ok |
| 15:21.37 | Amadeo | rubik: wasn't that GCD thing something they put in to try to fix latency issues? |
| 15:21.38 | rubik | it's really the order of how it does the checking and the delay involved |
| 15:21.40 | kadrahil | Rafael: i mean is it still spammable? |
| 15:21.56 | rubik | it burns your GCD before checking your lag or something rather dumb |
| 15:22.00 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 15:22.02 | rubik | and it locks up your actions |
| 15:22.02 | Amadeo | I doubt they changed it |
| 15:22.07 | Rafael | yep...thats what I do as a Hunter...spam that macro until its dead |
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| 15:22.34 | kadrahil | Rafael: that's what 90% of lazy hunters do :P |
| 15:22.41 | kadrahil | Rafael: makes raiding really boring for me though :( |
| 15:22.42 | Rafael | damn proud of it |
| 15:23.04 | kadrahil | but all i do is spam steady/auto and i'm #1 on dps *shrug* |
| 15:23.09 | rubik | good thread explaining broken GCD: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2720553494&sid=1 |
| 15:23.11 | Rafael | same |
| 15:23.26 | Amadeo | rubik: Yeah, I was looking at that a while back |
| 15:23.36 | rubik | basically, it's currently doing: Button pressed -> GCD Triggered -> Server checks that you can actually do the move. |
| 15:23.42 | rubik | instead of: Button pressed -> Server checks that you can actually do the move -> GCD Triggered. |
| 15:24.08 | kadrahil | didn't the client check that previously? |
| 15:24.09 | rubik | so if lag is over 100ms or so, gg |
| 15:24.36 | kenlyric | if I can't do it yet isn't it because i'm in the GCD? |
| 15:25.00 | kenlyric | or ooh, applies to ability cooldowns too... |
| 15:25.05 | Rafael | FYI my latency on the PTR last night was around 60....so it may actually be broke i just didnt notice it |
| 15:25.37 | kadrahil | i wonder how much addon breakage there will be |
| 15:25.45 | rubik | yeah.. "if you can't do it" can mean a lot of things.. you're not behind an opponent, you don't have enough rage, you're out of range |
| 15:26.00 | kadrahil | rubik: or mana, etc |
| 15:26.10 | rubik | yup |
| 15:27.05 | rubik | oh well.. off to work.. you guys have fun |
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| 15:27.49 | Rafael | the only addons I copied over to wowtest and ran on PTR were Bartender, Pitbull, Arkinventory, Cartographer....got the warning about addons generating errors but they seemed to work...except Cart...it was sorta hosed...would not let me select other zones besided the one i was in |
| 15:28.15 | rubik | oh yeah.. meant to ask.. i think new patch ignores "maxcameradistance" param |
| 15:28.16 | silentium | or still casting the previous spell... imagine hitting the button 0.1s too early and triggering the GCD |
| 15:28.21 | Xinhuan | they changed the object the player arrow on the minimap is |
| 15:28.25 | Xinhuan | so cartographer got hosed |
| 15:28.34 | rubik | and i just started it for kicks (2.3 live client) and first thing it said was "your video settings have been reset" |
| 15:28.36 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: ;( |
| 15:28.50 | nevcairiel | sb: http://pastebin.com/m70d8e8a |
| 15:28.56 | rubik | i'm going to cry if it's not possible to zoom all the way out anymore |
| 15:29.10 | sb | ty nevcairiel |
| 15:29.43 | nevcairiel | for anyone else, diff of latest PTR notes and Live notes --> http://pastebin.com/m70d8e8a |
| 15:29.54 | Xinhuan | rubik: only the "spell details" have been reset |
| 15:30.03 | Xinhuan | they changed the default from High to Low |
| 15:30.24 | kenlyric | oh, that'll be helpful. |
| 15:30.31 | kenlyric | "what void zone!?!!" |
| 15:30.31 | rubik | i know on ptr i couldn't zoom all the way out.. and it reset to "low" on every relog |
| 15:30.43 | rubik | hopefully they fixed that |
| 15:30.52 | Xinhuan | nah kenlyric |
| 15:31.02 | Xinhuan | some video cards didn't have pixel shaders or something screwy |
| 15:31.05 | Xinhuan | so they can't see it |
| 15:31.05 | kenlyric | that's what the low spell effect setting used to do. |
| 15:31.25 | Obelixprime | silentium: hunh? |
| 15:31.27 | Xinhuan | i know my old gxcard cannot see vashj poison spits, nightbane fire patch zones, alar firepatches etc |
| 15:31.39 | Xinhuan | but my old gxcard CAN see the "fire effects" above the zones |
| 15:31.44 | Xinhuan | but not see the actual zones itself on the floor |
| 15:31.54 | kadrahil | The latest patch of World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade shows a benefit on today's popular multicore processors like the Intel(r) Core(tm)2 Duo processor family. The enhanced patch has demonstrated higher frame rates by spreading the work across both processor cores. |
| 15:31.55 | Xinhuan | doesn't even matter if it was high or low |
| 15:31.59 | kadrahil | about freaking time. |
| 15:32.40 | RaydenUni | http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2570/felironhb3.jpg <-- it looks like texas |
| 15:32.48 | RaydenUni | uh |
| 15:32.52 | kenlyric | evocation only runs for 8 seconds, right? |
| 15:32.55 | RaydenUni | wow is efficiently threaded now? |
| 15:32.56 | RaydenUni | i doubt it |
| 15:32.56 | kadrahil | i wonder if silvermoon will see more population with ZA in the ghostlands now |
| 15:33.05 | kadrahil | :x |
| 15:33.16 | sb | do we already have some addon to manage that new minimap stuff? (marks, quests, ...) |
| 15:33.24 | kadrahil | such a nice city and nobody is ever there |
| 15:33.32 | dreamss | unable to log into wow at this to,e |
| 15:33.34 | dreamss | time |
| 15:33.38 | kenlyric | horde cities are all fucked up. |
| 15:33.40 | dreamss | i need my crack god dam it |
| 15:33.47 | kadrahil | dreamss: heh |
| 15:33.52 | dreamss | kadrahil, agreed |
| 15:33.56 | kadrahil | dreamss: just another 3.5 hours |
| 15:34.01 | kadrahil | dreamss: ;( |
| 15:34.06 | dreamss | but.. i need my fix |
| 15:34.13 | kadrahil | dreamss: i vote you take a nap so you don't have to think about it |
| 15:34.38 | kenlyric | did they ever make those new flight paths which cross instance borders? |
| 15:34.45 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 15:34.47 | dreamss | im sick man.... just let me patch it |
| 15:34.50 | nevcairiel | there is one |
| 15:34.52 | dreamss | that will hopld me over |
| 15:34.54 | nevcairiel | into ghostlands |
| 15:34.57 | hyperChipmunk | ZA goes to thingy now |
| 15:34.57 | kadrahil | orly? |
| 15:35.04 | kadrahil | from EPL? |
| 15:35.04 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 15:35.06 | kenlyric | but not one for auberdine to exodar, right? |
| 15:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | light's hope |
| 15:35.09 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 15:35.12 | kadrahil | noice |
| 15:35.17 | Xinhuan | there is a new flight path from EPL's Light hope directly to ZA entrance |
| 15:35.20 | Xinhuan | for alliance |
| 15:35.30 | dreamss | horde hve to.. walk there? |
| 15:35.31 | kadrahil | um, but not for horde? |
| 15:35.33 | dreamss | boo |
| 15:35.33 | Xinhuan | the bird flies thru the zoneportal |
| 15:35.38 | kenlyric | lol, that's mean. |
| 15:35.38 | Xinhuan | from EPL to Ghostlands |
| 15:35.41 | kadrahil | oh llame |
| 15:35.43 | kadrahil | -l |
| 15:35.51 | dreamss | horde has a portal into silvermoon |
| 15:35.56 | kenlyric | what about undercity to silvermoon? I heard that was happening. |
| 15:35.56 | kadrahil | it's cause the alliance were QQing about pvp |
| 15:35.58 | Rafael | have you seen those Taurons....they could use some extra walks |
| 15:36.03 | kadrahil | and it being in horde territory |
| 15:36.08 | Xinhuan | ya but the horde FP doesn't require flying thru a portal |
| 15:36.09 | kenlyric | and then it didn't happen |
| 15:36.17 | Xinhuan | since its on the same "continent server" |
| 15:36.21 | dreamss | hey were not fat, just big boned |
| 15:36.22 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: if they made one from EPL it would. |
| 15:36.29 | Xinhuan | they didn't though |
| 15:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | horde can go shattrath to silvermoon |
| 15:36.34 | kenlyric | and that's just mean. |
| 15:36.40 | Xinhuan | the cross-server FP is alliance only i think |
| 15:36.47 | kenlyric | what if I'm busy gathering plaguebloom and need to go raid! |
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| 15:36.57 | dreamss | faction unmbalance... |
| 15:36.59 | Xinhuan | you hearth, zone to silvermoon and lfy out |
| 15:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | hearth |
| 15:37.05 | kadrahil | i'm rerolling a troll shaman :( |
| 15:37.06 | kenlyric | hearth on cooldown! |
| 15:37.08 | RaydenUni | cross-server fp? |
| 15:37.11 | kenlyric | clearly OP |
| 15:37.14 | kadrahil | no more hunter for meeee |
| 15:37.18 | hyperChipmunk | zoneserver |
| 15:37.19 | Xinhuan | cross-server meaning cross-continent-server |
| 15:37.24 | kenlyric | seriously though, why make one and not the other. It breaks player expectations. |
| 15:37.27 | dreamss | troll shaman? ewww |
| 15:37.31 | Kivin | they nerfed the broom model in 2.3 >< |
| 15:37.37 | kadrahil | dreamss: they look sick in T6 ;( |
| 15:37.41 | hyperChipmunk | it might work for horde, too; i duno |
| 15:37.45 | RaydenUni | kadrahil you want to play one of the most underpowered class/race combinations? |
| 15:37.50 | dreamss | kenlyric, cause silvermoon is next door? |
| 15:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | i don't know if any horde actually went that route >8) |
| 15:37.53 | Xinhuan | need to startup task manager to see how wow uses both cores in a duo-core system imo |
| 15:37.54 | kadrahil | RaydenUni: hah |
| 15:37.58 | Amadeo | Is ZA a 25 man? |
| 15:38.01 | dreamss | 19 |
| 15:38.02 | dreamss | 10 |
| 15:38.02 | kadrahil | Amadeo: 40 |
| 15:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | 72 |
| 15:38.09 | kenlyric | 80 |
| 15:38.12 | Amadeo | 23? |
| 15:38.12 | kenlyric | one of each faction |
| 15:38.15 | dreamss | its a 100man raid |
| 15:38.16 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:38.17 | dreamss | bwahahaha |
| 15:38.17 | Xinhuan | Eranikus - 120 man raid boss. |
| 15:38.22 | kadrahil | it's a cross faction 80 man raid |
| 15:38.25 | Xinhuan | been there, done that |
| 15:38.25 | kenlyric | it's the real Hyjal |
| 15:38.30 | dreamss | 2 week attunement quest |
| 15:38.30 | Amadeo | 120 man raid, that's EQ |
| 15:38.31 | Rafael | 42 is the answer |
| 15:38.34 | dreamss | starts in kz |
| 15:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | EQ 72 mans |
| 15:38.37 | dreamss | ends in bt |
| 15:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | ftw |
| 15:38.43 | RaydenUni | kadrahil don't get me wrong, i play a 70 troll priest because Trolls are the most noble of all the races, but i'd prefer the undead racials |
| 15:38.44 | kadrahil | hyperChipmunk: :o |
| 15:38.49 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I think we had 120 in Kael Drakkal once, crashed the zone |
| 15:38.52 | Xinhuan | i'm serious though, Eranikus can't really be done without 120-man back in the lvl 60 days in BWL gear |
| 15:39.01 | dreamss | trolls noble? lol |
| 15:39.03 | dreamss | right |
| 15:39.09 | kadrahil | RaydenUni: i would too, but i've pvp'd without the undead racial ever since i've played wow and i haven't missed it |
| 15:39.11 | Codayus | Trolls are just too ugly... |
| 15:39.17 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 15:39.19 | RaydenUni | trolls are awesome |
| 15:39.24 | RaydenUni | they aren't brutish like the orcs |
| 15:39.24 | Amadeo | awesomely ugly |
| 15:39.28 | kadrahil | RaydenUni: my main is a 70 belf hunter for crying out loud ;) |
| 15:39.29 | Amadeo | You mean British |
| 15:39.36 | RaydenUni | they aren't butt ugly like the night elves |
| 15:39.37 | hyperChipmunk | the rathe: 72 perfectly-coordinated on-edge players for 6 hours |
| 15:39.38 | dreamss | racial wise its the worst class |
| 15:39.38 | hyperChipmunk | go! |
| 15:39.43 | dreamss | looks wise is the worse class |
| 15:39.50 | dreamss | err race |
| 15:39.51 | balstor | the only noble race is the tauren |
| 15:39.54 | kadrahil | hyperChipmunk: seriously? |
| 15:40.06 | RaydenUni | trolls have a tainted past, but are working to overcome it |
| 15:40.08 | RaydenUni | that is noble |
| 15:40.09 | Amadeo | He's very serious, 6 hours was nothing in EQ |
| 15:40.15 | Rafael | sorry BE are the worst looking race/any class combo |
| 15:40.18 | Amadeo | You die, look forward to a 12 hour corpse run :P |
| 15:40.20 | kadrahil | ugh |
| 15:40.21 | Codayus | Although speaking of underpowered racials, human shadow priests aren't bad, especially for PvP... |
| 15:40.28 | RaydenUni | I think horde should trade BE for Dranei |
| 15:40.29 | kadrahil | Rafael: ... |
| 15:40.31 | Amadeo | Well, early EQ at least |
| 15:40.33 | dreamss | HAHAAHAH |
| 15:40.33 | balstor | trolls ?? tainted past??? you had SEX with Night ELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:40.34 | Codayus | Every other race is now better. :-/ |
| 15:40.37 | dreamss | fuck drenai |
| 15:40.46 | kadrahil | balstor: rofl |
| 15:40.59 | dreamss | horde dosent want those cristian/budist hippies |
| 15:40.59 | hyperChipmunk | you can have our draenei |
| 15:41.04 | Rafael | btw how do BE reproduce? they dont have males |
| 15:41.05 | Amadeo | I hate Draenei |
| 15:41.12 | dreamss | we like BEs they evil |
| 15:41.14 | dreamss | suck mana |
| 15:41.15 | Amadeo | Rafael: Two females |
| 15:41.17 | dreamss | aoe silence |
| 15:41.28 | kadrahil | LOL @ mana tap |
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| 15:41.33 | dreamss | two male BE make the sperm then give it to the queeen BE |
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| 15:41.38 | kadrahil | and a 2 second aoe silence? gg |
| 15:41.40 | Codayus | My ideal priest race: Draenei racials, BE looks. |
| 15:41.44 | RaydenUni | although... i think the goody two shoes dranei would get old as a horde race |
| 15:41.50 | Amadeo | Codayus: My ideal Priest = Dwarf! |
| 15:42.09 | Codayus | Amadeo: "Dwarves - at least we're not as ugly as trolls!" |
| 15:42.16 | Rafael | nothing is more annoying than the various quotes the Draenei NPCs blab all the time |
| 15:42.19 | kd3 | woot, got in to the forums. updating the it's patch day thread. anyone know of changes for the "needs updates" list? |
| 15:42.21 | balstor | oooo thats right fear ward is nerfed now isn't it HAHAHAHA |
| 15:42.22 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r54492 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-enUS.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 15:42.22 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 15:42.22 | CIA-4 | - Finally fixed problems with the unsolicited party invitation blocker |
| 15:42.22 | CIA-4 | - Finally fixed the complaint functionality. |
| 15:42.23 | dreamss | or look like u took a beating |
| 15:42.23 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221186&sid=1 |
| 15:42.23 | RaydenUni | Codayus but that is incorrect |
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| 15:42.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:42.24 | xyu_ | Gnome Priest > * |
| 15:42.27 | Amadeo | Codayus: I love Dwarves :D |
| 15:42.28 | RaydenUni | also known as slander |
| 15:42.35 | RaydenUni | trolls aren't as ugly as any of the alliance |
| 15:42.37 | Amadeo | though NE Priests get free Starshards now, I guess that'll be pretty nice |
| 15:42.40 | xyu_ | wtb gnome priest |
| 15:42.45 | hyperChipmunk | fear ward is no longer needed |
| 15:42.52 | Amadeo | Yeah, especially since it's nerfed up |
| 15:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | since mobs don't deagro on fear anymore |
| 15:43.05 | dreamss | they could allways fix tremor totem |
| 15:43.05 | Codayus | balstor: Fear ward was nerfed, yes - but that just gave Bliz an excuse to give dwarves a NEW OP racial. |
| 15:43.07 | dreamss | : |
| 15:43.21 | Amadeo | Come on! Nobody thinks Starshards is pretty hot now? :P |
| 15:43.22 | dreamss | btw i was just able to login and get the patch |
| 15:43.34 | Codayus | Amadeo: It's not bad, actually. And Elune's Grace is also nice. |
| 15:43.37 | kadrahil | dreamss: NO |
| 15:43.39 | kenlyric | it turns unbreakable will into less of a meh talent. |
| 15:43.45 | Chexsum | whats the cooldown on chastise? |
| 15:43.52 | kadrahil | dreamss: i might have to start pvping again |
| 15:43.53 | dreamss | kadrahil? |
| 15:43.55 | RaydenUni | wtb all priest racial spells |
| 15:43.57 | kenlyric | Amadeo: hotter than the human spirit? no. |
| 15:44.01 | Amadeo | Codayus: Yeah, no channeling, free damage... Idon't even know what they did to Elune's Grace |
| 15:44.06 | Codayus | However, do note that Starshards won't benefit from the spriest +hit talent, nor from any +shadow gear you have. So...nice, but not OP. |
| 15:44.07 | kadrahil | dreamss: i mean, no patch for you |
| 15:44.18 | kadrahil | dreamss: cause i don't get otu of class until 130 |
| 15:44.22 | dreamss | whats starshards? |
| 15:44.22 | nevcairiel | starshards is now a dot, no? |
| 15:44.26 | RaydenUni | how much dmg does starshards do? and it's channeled right? |
| 15:44.31 | Codayus | Not channeled. |
| 15:44.33 | Codayus | Free DoT. |
| 15:44.35 | kenlyric | you all live under rocks? |
| 15:44.40 | kenlyric | I want to visit your rocks. |
| 15:44.48 | RaydenUni | shadow priests need an aoe dot |
| 15:44.49 | Xinhuan | starshards still gets damage benefits from general +dmg and heal gear |
| 15:44.52 | nevcairiel | we dotch priest infos |
| 15:44.57 | dreamss | its basicly like that dieasese from undead priests? |
| 15:44.59 | nevcairiel | *dodge |
| 15:45.03 | nevcairiel | where did that come from |
| 15:45.14 | kadrahil | nevcairiel: :x |
| 15:45.26 | kenlyric | The Human Spirit is now the best holy priest racial in the game, and it's not even a class racial. Bwahahaha. |
| 15:45.28 | Codayus | Starshards = 0 cost, 30s cooldown, instant. Does 785 dmg over 15s. Has an...88% coefficient, I think? |
| 15:45.33 | RaydenUni | 1000dmg over 6 seconds? |
| 15:45.44 | RaydenUni | and doesn't benefit from shadow so 1128 is pretty much it |
| 15:45.47 | Chexsum | devouring plague is 1k mana so theres a difference |
| 15:45.49 | RaydenUni | i think mind flay does more |
| 15:45.59 | nevcairiel | starshards has no mana cost? |
| 15:46.02 | Xinhuan | well its 0 mana cost |
| 15:46.07 | Xinhuan | so you can use it while regenning mana |
| 15:46.08 | nevcairiel | thats stupid |
| 15:46.10 | Xinhuan | and it won't affect 5sr |
| 15:46.16 | kenlyric | prepare inc nerf. |
| 15:46.18 | dreamss | ugg still need 50megs |
| 15:46.20 | dreamss | lame |
| 15:46.30 | RaydenUni | troll shadow priest wtb other priest racials |
| 15:46.34 | RaydenUni | priest racials are retarded |
| 15:46.39 | RaydenUni | why are we the only class to have them? |
| 15:46.42 | Codayus | Yep. Basically, it's just free damage. However, it's not THAT OP. DOesn't trigger VE, doesn't trigger VT, etc. |
| 15:46.52 | nevcairiel | yeah, remove priest racials at all |
| 15:46.57 | kenlyric | seems nicer for a holy priest. |
| 15:47.00 | dreamss | is touch of weak a priest racial? |
| 15:47.02 | kenlyric | i'd be fine with that. |
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| 15:47.03 | RaydenUni | give all priests all priest racials |
| 15:47.06 | Codayus | For a well geared spriest, it's only barely worth the GCD |
| 15:47.06 | RaydenUni | dreamss yes |
| 15:47.08 | kenlyric | then human priests could be really overpowered :) |
| 15:47.13 | dreamss | heh |
| 15:47.23 | hyperChipmunk | night elf hunters get kinda a class racial |
| 15:47.23 | xyu_ | you have them because priests are known QQers |
| 15:47.25 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54493 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:47.25 | CIA-4 | Cartographer_ExtractGas: |
| 15:47.26 | CIA-4 | - Changes for WoW 2.3 |
| 15:47.26 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.26 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.31 | hyperChipmunk | ability to FD/Meld |
| 15:47.32 | dreamss | so basicly undead>dwarf |
| 15:47.36 | RaydenUni | xyu no that's not why |
| 15:47.40 | kenlyric | provided the mob has debuff slots available, just throw it up whenever you want. |
| 15:47.48 | balstor | i like the ide of priest racials, just fear ward needed at least a 40 seccond cooldown tbh |
| 15:48.00 | RaydenUni | balstor i don't like having to choose my race based on statistics |
| 15:48.05 | RaydenUni | i want to be able to choose them based on looks |
| 15:48.14 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: welcome to MMO? |
| 15:48.23 | kadrahil | Flying units can see ground units and vice versa at any altitude. |
| 15:48.28 | RaydenUni | i feel like i am punished for choosing a troll |
| 15:48.32 | kenlyric | you are. |
| 15:48.36 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:48.39 | RaydenUni | although shadowguard isn't so bad |
| 15:48.45 | hyperChipmunk | that's the best change imo |
| 15:48.49 | balstor | i hear that doffrent speicies have diffrent abilities, kinda of strange that way |
| 15:48.50 | RaydenUni | but i never use any of my other troll racials |
| 15:48.50 | Codayus | Oh yeah, and the new Elune's Grace: Reduces the chance you'll be hit by melee and ranged attacks by 20% for 15s. So...not bad. 3m cooldown. |
| 15:48.54 | hyperChipmunk | you can see farther ahead of you now too |
| 15:48.59 | Amadeo | Codayus: Interesting |
| 15:49.06 | kenlyric | do nodes show up any faster? |
| 15:49.07 | Amadeo | I still like Dwarves |
| 15:49.11 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 15:49.17 | kenlyric | praise jesus |
| 15:49.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's like a cylinder instead of a sphere now |
| 15:49.25 | Codayus | Very much an arena skill. Gives you a teeny bit of survivability. |
| 15:49.27 | hyperChipmunk | and you can see nodes from any height |
| 15:49.34 | kadrahil | wowowow |
| 15:49.39 | kadrahil | <3 |
| 15:49.41 | Codayus | But then, in arena, a teeny bit of survivabilty is worth a lot. |
| 15:49.43 | RaydenUni | viewing stuff was spherical based? so flying really high would mean you can't see mines? |
| 15:49.44 | balstor | Taurens are the only truly good race the rest of you warmongers shou;d get off our grazing lands |
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| 15:49.45 | hyperChipmunk | it's so awesome |
| 15:50.00 | Xinhuan | pain supression will help a lot vs 4-dps teams |
| 15:50.02 | Toadkiller | & stop eating beef imo |
| 15:50.03 | kadrahil | quick, someone buy me my epic flyer |
| 15:50.15 | RaydenUni | i need an epic flying mount... |
| 15:50.18 | Codayus | And then there's Chastise - 30s cooldown. ~400 dmg and a 2s incapacitate... |
| 15:50.30 | Toadkiller | kadrahil: you noobed it, you coulda gotten an epic flyer from halloween event in SM |
| 15:50.31 | kenlyric | taurens cry |
| 15:50.40 | kadrahil | Toadkiller: still have to get training |
| 15:50.42 | Codayus | So OP. :-( |
| 15:50.46 | Rafael | i have 3 epic flying mounts....its not hard to get the gold in this game |
| 15:50.56 | Rafael | err on 3 characters |
| 15:50.59 | xyu_ | I'm using the flying broom as well |
| 15:51.04 | xyu_ | i havne't even bought my epic flying mount |
| 15:51.04 | Toadkiller | You wanted flyer not riding lessons iirc |
| 15:51.28 | Toadkiller | I am working on money for my 4th epic flying training. |
| 15:51.31 | Codayus | Because hey, dwarves need a counterspell! >< And it doesn't trigger the GCD... |
| 15:51.35 | kadrahil | Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee combat. |
| 15:51.47 | Toadkiller | In other news, water is still wet |
| 15:51.47 | kadrahil | so basically |
| 15:51.57 | kadrahil | my pet is going to run around in circles when i'm solo farming |
| 15:52.05 | Rafael | what if the pet is tanking? |
| 15:52.17 | Toadkiller | tanking from behind ftw! |
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| 15:52.23 | Rafael | pet -vs- pet duels should be fun to watch =P |
| 15:52.25 | RaydenUni | <Rafael> i have 3 epic flying mounts....its not hard to get the gold in this game <-- it is when i'm trying to build my spellstrike set at the same time |
| 15:53.06 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54494 10BulkMail2Inbox/2.3/: |
| 15:53.06 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2Inbox: 2.3 |
| 15:53.06 | CIA-4 | - Merging 2.3 branch; see commit note from r54368 for details |
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| 15:53.11 | Bruners | if you buy everything from ah at high prices, yes it wil be expensive :P |
| 15:53.14 | kadrahil | # All Commanders and Lieutenants have left Alterac Valley in search for other battle opportunities. |
| 15:53.16 | kenlyric | I hit 3200g and petered out on my second 70. |
| 15:53.22 | Toadkiller | Still isnt, just do daily for 134+gp per character per day & about 1 hour spent doing it |
| 15:53.29 | kenlyric | ran out of solo quests, head hit my keyboard. |
| 15:53.29 | Rafael | the best way to make gold in wow is to never visit the AH |
| 15:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 15:54.09 | RaydenUni | <Toadkiller> Still isnt, just do daily for 134+gp per character per day & about 1 hour spent doing it <-- how do you get 135g for dailies? |
| 15:54.19 | kenlyric | and the only daily I can do, egg bombing, is horrid on a 225 flyer. |
| 15:54.23 | kenlyric | cause birds are lol! |
| 15:54.27 | RaydenUni | i don't have that many dailies |
| 15:54.36 | RaydenUni | i don't think there are that many dailies before you get your epic |
| 15:54.37 | kenlyric | wtf does a bird hamstring me with |
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| 15:54.42 | RaydenUni | it's claws |
| 15:54.48 | Chexsum | wingclip |
| 15:54.52 | RaydenUni | kenlyric you can also do the skettis escort quest |
| 15:54.52 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 15:54.57 | xyu_ | is US-armory down while patch is coming in? |
| 15:54.59 | RaydenUni | that one is easy if you can find him |
| 15:54.59 | kenlyric | hehe |
| 15:55.00 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54495 10BulkMail2/2.3/: |
| 15:55.00 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2: 2.3 |
| 15:55.00 | CIA-4 | - Merging 2.3 branch; see commit note from r54367 for details |
| 15:55.04 | hyperChipmunk | the ol' hamstring vs. wing clip |
| 15:55.17 | Rafael | i was so glad when I got access to the netherwing dailes....meant I never had to go back to Skettis since I could get my 10 elsewhere |
| 15:55.21 | xyu_ | i could do 6 dailies before i ahd epic |
| 15:55.28 | hyperChipmunk | my warrior friend: it's weird how i can hamstring birds |
| 15:55.30 | kenlyric | my priest hit 5200g no problem, but I also did instances and all the group quests on him. |
| 15:55.48 | hyperChipmunk | me: you think that's weird. i wing clip everything |
| 15:55.49 | xyu_ | skettis bomb, escort, ogri'la bomb, wrangle, banish, simon says |
| 15:55.53 | kenlyric | I sorta just decided I didn't care about flying on my alt. |
| 15:56.10 | Rafael | well...i go back to skettis when I need herbs |
| 15:56.13 | RaydenUni | skettis bombing, skettis escort, wrangle aether rays, nexis attunement, ogrila bombing, banishing demons |
| 15:56.41 | xyu_ | i got my 5000g just doing those |
| 15:56.47 | xyu_ | had exalted w/ skyguard before i got it |
| 15:56.59 | Rafael | got my first epeic flying skill form those 6 as well |
| 15:57.15 | Chexsum | i spent all the money on noggenfogger + respecs |
| 15:57.17 | balstor | yhea that would work if i wasn't spending 60g a night in repair bills pushing content |
| 15:57.33 | xyu_ | i had 2 chars doing it |
| 15:57.38 | harldephin | as a hunter, is there a way to have a macro check, whether my pet is happy or not, like [~pethappy] or something? |
| 15:57.46 | RaydenUni | <Chexsum> i spent all the money on noggenfogger + respecs <-- drugs will do that to you |
| 15:57.54 | RaydenUni | i should do my dailies |
| 15:57.59 | RaydenUni | lately i've been working my mining up instead |
| 15:58.03 | balstor | yhea my 2nd char will start doing it in a week or so (level 67 currently) |
| 15:58.10 | xyu_ | respecs are killer. i know so many people who spend gold on respecs twice a week |
| 15:58.23 | RaydenUni | it will take me 75 days to buy my mount on dailies alone |
| 15:58.29 | Rafael | Harldephin....i do not believe so...but mods like Pitbull can change the color of the pets health depending on happiness |
| 15:58.45 | kenlyric | new BG and cooking dailies! |
| 15:58.46 | balstor | yhea I also respec every weekend since I want to PVP and my weekly job is main tank |
| 15:58.49 | Hell-Razor | pitbull always errors for me |
| 15:58.50 | kenlyric | (do they give cash?) |
| 15:58.57 | xyu_ | as well as heroic dailies i believe? |
| 15:58.58 | Hell-Razor | i gave up on it |
| 15:59.12 | Rafael | ive never had errors with Pitbull |
| 15:59.14 | Poof | Hmm |
| 15:59.18 | Poof | Busy day. hehe |
| 15:59.18 | harldephin | Rafael: yea. i know that. got a PitBull myself. |
| 15:59.20 | xyu_ | but i dont think a daily quest justifies going into heroic crypts or something :P |
| 15:59.23 | RaydenUni | pitbull completely forgot my profile. i had to reset everything |
| 15:59.30 | Poof | SVN is going to be slow today I'm sure. =/ |
| 16:00.06 | Poof | Well, hopefully MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames will be updated to 2.3 today then =) It's still at 2.1 =/ |
| 16:00.08 | Cyrez | Yikes, 2.3 eliminates the need for a number of addons. |
| 16:00.12 | Rafael | must suck having to respec so much...I think ive respeced 3 times total since playing the game |
| 16:00.15 | Poof | Oh? |
| 16:00.16 | harldephin | no errors with pitbull for me. |
| 16:00.22 | Poof | Like what Cyrez? |
| 16:00.23 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Beta * r54496 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/ (AceConfigTab-3.0.lua AceTab-3.0.lua): |
| 16:00.23 | CIA-4 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 16:00.24 | CIA-4 | - use 2.3's :GetCursorPosition() instead of crazy editbox hacks |
| 16:00.38 | Kritter | it removes the need for some features in many addons at least. |
| 16:00.56 | Kritter | class color names in chat for one. |
| 16:01.01 | hyperChipmunk | and yay, I'm all caught up with addons in 2.3 except for batfu |
| 16:01.05 | kenlyric | Rafael: what class? |
| 16:01.09 | RaydenUni | <Rafael> must suck having to respec so much...I think ive respeced 3 times total since playing the game <-- yeah i just respecced my shadow priest at 70 to get a little more for KZ. cost me 5g |
| 16:01.22 | Kritter | lots of the bulkmail stuff is covered now. |
| 16:01.30 | Rafael | hehe the lazy ez-mode class |
| 16:01.38 | kenlyric | hunter. |
| 16:01.40 | Mech0z | RaydenUni who cares about respec, its so easy to earn money |
| 16:01.43 | hyperChipmunk | not really; it depends how you use it |
| 16:01.45 | RaydenUni | the problem with dailies is if you only have an hour or so to play |
| 16:01.49 | Rafael | BM to be specific |
| 16:01.51 | RaydenUni | i don't want to spend all of my time playing running dailies |
| 16:01.52 | kenlyric | orc? |
| 16:01.54 | hyperChipmunk | if you just used it to multi-mail, then yeah |
| 16:02.01 | *** join/#wowace fridg (n=Fridgid@24.96.161.5) |
| 16:02.01 | xyu_ | yeah, i use bulkmail for the autosend certain items to alts |
| 16:02.05 | xyu_ | so ill still usei t for sure |
| 16:02.09 | Kritter | well the auto sending of yours is not replaced, but if you're just sending many... yeah |
| 16:02.20 | hyperChipmunk | but that's not really where its real power lay |
| 16:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | and BMI got more useful actually |
| 16:02.37 | steev64 | RaydenUni: what are you doing in that hour instead? thats rarely enough time for a heroic |
| 16:02.40 | kenlyric | autosend feeds children in africa. |
| 16:02.44 | silentium | [16:54:19] <kenlyric> and the only daily I can do, egg bombing, is horrid on a 225 flyer. <- the birds fly the same speed as you, so an epic flyer doesnt help. what helps is flying up and down to get out of melee range |
| 16:02.56 | Kritter | I want to mail things to the new guild bank. :) |
| 16:02.58 | steev64 | true that |
| 16:02.58 | RaydenUni | steev64 i dunno. just saying |
| 16:03.01 | steev64 | up on an angle |
| 16:03.03 | RaydenUni | i've yet to run a heroic... |
| 16:03.06 | steev64 | RaydenUni: ah |
| 16:03.22 | RaydenUni | there is little gear for me there |
| 16:03.26 | xyu_ | If you get bird aggro just fly straight up or down and it cannot hit you |
| 16:03.31 | RaydenUni | just need some badges i guess |
| 16:03.36 | RaydenUni | can never find enough guildies to run them |
| 16:03.42 | steev64 | so pug :) |
| 16:03.43 | RaydenUni | xyu_> If you get bird aggro just fly straight up or down and it cannot hit you <-- QFT |
| 16:03.47 | Rafael | im at work...hopefully by the time i get home tonight...most of my favorite UI mods will be good to go |
| 16:03.48 | balstor | silentium why is that the only daily you can do??? why not the ogre ones?? |
| 16:03.49 | RaydenUni | it's hard to find pugs i've found |
| 16:03.57 | Rafael | eww Heroic Pug |
| 16:03.58 | xyu_ | RaydenUni: now you get undergeared pugs who shouldnt' even be in heroics! Thx to the honored keys |
| 16:03.59 | steev64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.08 | kenlyric | I don't do groups. Fuck multiplayer. |
| 16:04.09 | RaydenUni | yeah... i'm not sure i'm happy about that |
| 16:04.10 | Kritter | if you can bomb eggs you can bomb cannonballs. |
| 16:04.16 | steev64 | kenlyric: YEAH! |
| 16:04.21 | Kritter | least skillwize. |
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| 16:04.31 | steev64 | i prefer to bomb the cannonballs |
| 16:04.34 | hyperChipmunk | i actually never got the ogri'la quests until i was already exalted skyguard |
| 16:04.34 | kenlyric | wow is just oblivion with chat. |
| 16:04.39 | Cyrez | "When you inspect a player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment." |
| 16:04.40 | RaydenUni | bomb cannonballs is sorta easier to avoid birds |
| 16:04.43 | steev64 | hit up the apexis emanations quest to get the speed boost |
| 16:04.44 | RaydenUni | less annoying at least |
| 16:04.55 | steev64 | then do the bombing run |
| 16:04.56 | hyperChipmunk | RaydenUni: until you stop moving |
| 16:04.57 | balstor | look the simplea way to do the cnnonballs: walk up to the cannon balls, mount, bomb, dismount run off at an right angle |
| 16:04.59 | Amadeo | Cyrez: That's such a bad change |
| 16:05.09 | kenlyric | my priest finally got those annoying damn starter 5-mans done, but I'm still working my way up through simon says. |
| 16:05.09 | RaydenUni | <Cyrez> "When you inspect a player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment." <-- now i can see why i'm out threating the "prot paladin tank" like crazy :) |
| 16:05.12 | Kritter | and you gotta do the bootarang on at least one toon. |
| 16:05.13 | balstor | that how i do it on a 225 skill mount |
| 16:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 16:05.31 | xyu_ | The simplest way to do ogri'la is get in a group and do the (south) camp |
| 16:05.31 | RaydenUni | balstor i can do all 15 without getting hit on my 225 |
| 16:05.37 | Cyrez | I just think it's funny that there was a huge argument in here that's now meaningless. |
| 16:05.45 | kenlyric | it's much more efficient for me to do dailies on my priest and send the gold over, even with neutral AH cut :) |
| 16:05.45 | hyperChipmunk | Cyrez: not really |
| 16:05.46 | RaydenUni | what argument? |
| 16:05.50 | Rafael | the bombing in Blades Edge is pretty easy even with normal flying mount |
| 16:05.56 | hyperChipmunk | the argument was never really about the talent visibility |
| 16:06.01 | balstor | yhea i can't so i just mount/dismount and kill stuff at each side. |
| 16:06.11 | hyperChipmunk | it was about what addons should and should not do |
| 16:06.15 | kenlyric | Cyrez: iirc, it was meaningless when the argument happened :) |
| 16:06.22 | Kritter | with an epic flyer you can go straight up/down on them on BEM> |
| 16:06.26 | xyu_ | I was surprised at the cannons ability to predict my path of flight. |
| 16:06.31 | xyu_ | when i first did it |
| 16:06.40 | hyperChipmunk | the cannons are awesome |
| 16:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | and i hate them |
| 16:06.43 | RaydenUni | balstor set your camera up to you are flying straight ahead, then angle your camera (left click) down a little so you can see. then use ASWD and strafe to move and avoid bombs. dont' touch your camera anymore |
| 16:06.46 | xyu_ | reminded me of Quake bots set to highest lvl |
| 16:07.04 | RaydenUni | just move randomly, i only get hit when i fly too close |
| 16:07.09 | xyu_ | air rockets to the face from 10 miles away |
| 16:07.14 | Cyrez | I never took a side in it, anyway. |
| 16:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 16:07.15 | Rafael | just gotta keep moving...up/down left/right, strage, etc |
| 16:07.18 | RaydenUni | fly in towards them, when they shoot, then drop down and bomb, then turn and fly up and away |
| 16:07.28 | xyu_ | yep |
| 16:07.31 | Cyrez | People tend to ignore me. |
| 16:07.32 | xyu_ | binding the bomb to a key helps too |
| 16:07.44 | RaydenUni | the problem is when OTHER people get shot at while you are attacking, that screws up your timing |
| 16:07.55 | RaydenUni | xyu good idea. i just click on it |
| 16:07.56 | hyperChipmunk | the best thing is going in there when other people are bombing |
| 16:08.00 | RaydenUni | since my house isnt' doing anything else |
| 16:08.06 | hyperChipmunk | and flying just ahead of them |
| 16:08.16 | RaydenUni | hyperChipmunk i find that screws up the timing of the bombs and causes me to die |
| 16:08.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh, i mean after you've finished >8) |
| 16:08.39 | Rafael | i was knocked out of the sky several times at first...but never killed from it |
| 16:08.40 | Cyrez | "Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers" < lol, it wasn't just me... :-P |
| 16:08.42 | xyu_ | I had some bastard horde take my escort in skettis once(i'm horde) so i gathered a bunch of mobs from below and brought them to the escort guy |
| 16:08.44 | xyu_ | he attacks anything |
| 16:08.49 | xyu_ | so he could never move on |
| 16:08.50 | RaydenUni | oh to screw them up? lol |
| 16:08.53 | xyu_ | i just kept bringin more and more mobs |
| 16:08.56 | xyu_ | until he died |
| 16:09.04 | RaydenUni | nice |
| 16:09.14 | RaydenUni | i hate it when alliance kill me while i'm doing the quest |
| 16:09.18 | RaydenUni | it's faster if you just let me finish it |
| 16:09.24 | hyperChipmunk | lol yeah |
| 16:09.33 | Rafael | sometimes i wish Misdirect could be used out of group =P |
| 16:09.43 | hyperChipmunk | it's always some troll or undead holy priest that gets me |
| 16:09.48 | hyperChipmunk | like wtf |
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| 16:10.02 | hyperChipmunk | blueflag the low health guy; wtf |
| 16:10.04 | xyu_ | sometimes i just go there to piss people off though |
| 16:10.05 | hyperChipmunk | wtg* |
| 16:10.13 | xyu_ | i like to camp those town campers |
| 16:10.16 | balstor | o free shards:Ogri'la Reputation Rewards: All epic and superior quality items are now disenchantable. |
| 16:10.18 | xyu_ | the ones who sit on the trees shooting |
| 16:10.22 | RaydenUni | best way to be a jerk, just hover around the apexis emanations place and gank people who are at 7/8 |
| 16:10.33 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 16:10.37 | xyu_ | the sad thing is |
| 16:10.43 | xyu_ | when you attack they have the "slow" thingy |
| 16:10.46 | xyu_ | so they can't even move |
| 16:10.47 | xyu_ | lol |
| 16:10.53 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 16:10.56 | RaydenUni | there is nothing you can do |
| 16:11.07 | nevcairiel | you can just pwn them |
| 16:11.08 | Rafael | Banish can no longer be cast on targets tapped by other players or groups.....finally Warlocks doing that was very annoying |
| 16:11.10 | Xinhuan | nah best way to be a jerk is to kill all their wranglers when they are at 15% health |
| 16:11.11 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:11.15 | RaydenUni | or just follow someone doing aether rays and kill their rays |
| 16:11.20 | Xinhuan | you can even grief your own faction that way |
| 16:11.20 | hyperChipmunk | then i am such a jerk |
| 16:11.27 | xyu_ | Xinhuan: i had to do that >< |
| 16:11.36 | RaydenUni | why would i grief horde? |
| 16:11.38 | xyu_ | so then he moved to banish |
| 16:11.43 | xyu_ | andi 'd kill the mob before it got to the portal |
| 16:11.51 | RaydenUni | i'm on a pvp server i need those guys for when the alliance abuse the shatari skyguards in ogrila |
| 16:11.59 | RaydenUni | the guards are retarded |
| 16:12.04 | hyperChipmunk | i grief my own faction at the emanations by walking up and typing 'red blue green green red green yellow blue red blue blue yellow green red blue red...' in /say |
| 16:12.15 | Xuerian | lol |
| 16:12.16 | RaydenUni | if someone attacks you in a town and they are out of range, the guards do nothing. if you defend yourself the guards attack you |
| 16:12.26 | RaydenUni | hyperChipmunk that wouldn't mess me up... |
| 16:12.28 | xyu_ | you haev to run out of range |
| 16:12.30 | xyu_ | then mount up |
| 16:12.34 | xyu_ | and attack them on the hut |
| 16:12.40 | hyperChipmunk | you'd be surprised |
| 16:12.52 | RaydenUni | i was in area 52 healing after i had died and a paladin came after me. it takes the guards forever to kill a paladin so i feared him |
| 16:12.52 | nevcairiel | i keep my order for emanations in numbers, and in the editbox only |
| 16:12.56 | xyu_ | they can't drop down so if your'e melee it's even better |
| 16:12.57 | RaydenUni | guess who the guards killed? |
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| 16:13.10 | RaydenUni | i use ASWD in the edit box as well |
| 16:13.17 | hyperChipmunk | no, not the point =) |
| 16:13.22 | nevcairiel | i use 2468 in the edit box |
| 16:13.23 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:13.26 | hyperChipmunk | the point is it makes them type the wrong thing |
| 16:13.26 | CIA-4 | 03xuerian * r54497 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway.toc: AnchorsAway: Bumped toc |
| 16:13.28 | RaydenUni | i do'nt even look at the chatbox though hyperChipmunk |
| 16:13.37 | xyu_ | i use an addon |
| 16:13.48 | xyu_ | ogrilazy |
| 16:13.49 | RaydenUni | and if i cared enough i'd just turn 'say' off |
| 16:13.57 | hyperChipmunk | oh of course |
| 16:14.00 | CIA-4 | 03xuerian * r54498 10XLoot/XLoot.toc: XLoot: Bumped toc |
| 16:14.01 | hyperChipmunk | but you're not suspecting it |
| 16:14.17 | hyperChipmunk | you look up and you see a color and it takes your mindspace and you forget what color it actually was |
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| 16:14.29 | hyperChipmunk | like when you're reading one thing and typing another and you type what you read |
| 16:14.30 | CIA-4 | 03xuerian * r54499 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.toc: XLootGroup: Bumped toc (No group comments ftl.) |
| 16:14.35 | xyu_ | the only time i miss one is when i'm trying to click really realy fast |
| 16:14.43 | xyu_ | like if they are different colors you can click pretty quick |
| 16:14.50 | CIA-4 | 03xuerian * r54500 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.toc: XLootMaster: Bumped toc |
| 16:14.57 | xyu_ | sometimes i'll do 3 and one won't register and i'll do the third out of order |
| 16:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | it's a rather fascinating psychological exercise |
| 16:15.31 | xyu_ | i hate it when its the same color like 3-4 times in a row because i have to wait for the "cooldown" |
| 16:15.37 | hyperChipmunk | i learned it in 6th grade when we used to have our desks arranged in pods of 4 and us smartypants guys always sat together |
| 16:15.52 | Cyrez | hyperChipmunk: Were the BulkMail2/BulkMail2Inbox merges supposed to overwrite the old files or are you doing that later? |
| 16:16.10 | hyperChipmunk | the last one to finish a math test would get strings of numbers whispered at him by the other three |
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| 16:16.24 | RaydenUni | hyperChipmunk i can deal with those color/name things pretty well |
| 16:16.26 | hyperChipmunk | Cyrez: i just did an svn cp from the branch |
| 16:16.36 | CIA-4 | 03xuerian * r54501 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.toc: XLootMonitor: Bumped toc (Dunweee) |
| 16:16.39 | hyperChipmunk | did they not update? |
| 16:16.40 | xyu_ | oh well time for hte most boring class ever. bbl |
| 16:16.58 | RaydenUni | i wish i could check the AH out of game |
| 16:17.06 | Cyrez | hyperChipmunk: Yes, they updated... Now there's a "2.3" folder with all the files in there. |
| 16:17.12 | hyperChipmunk | oh shoot |
| 16:17.13 | hyperChipmunk | i sux |
| 16:17.16 | RaydenUni | we could play "what gear should RaydenUni upgrade next" |
| 16:17.20 | RaydenUni | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Raydenuni |
| 16:17.24 | dreamss | lol |
| 16:17.41 | RaydenUni | i need 2 more spellcloth to make my spellstrike pants so ignore those |
| 16:18.03 | RaydenUni | about 8-9 SL runs from exalted with LC |
| 16:18.25 | RaydenUni | man i have so much hit rating now |
| 16:20.01 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54502 10BulkMail2/2.3/: |
| 16:20.01 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2: |
| 16:20.01 | CIA-4 | - I'm a moron |
| 16:21.45 | RaydenUni | i know, you all are too in awe of my gear to say anything |
| 16:22.07 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54503 10BulkMail2Inbox/2.3/: |
| 16:22.08 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 16:22.08 | CIA-4 | - Still a moron |
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| 16:25.01 | Toadkiller | RaydenUni: Ok each daily is 12gp, & one of the mine ones is 24, so 10 * 12 + 12 = 134gp |
| 16:25.12 | CIA-4 | 03ulic * r54504 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 6 dirs): LittleWigs: toc to 20300 |
| 16:25.18 | RaydenUni | but that requires you to have the epic mount |
| 16:25.25 | durcyn | Toadkiller: you're forgetting that emanations was rduced |
| 16:25.27 | durcyn | reduced* |
| 16:25.34 | Silowyi | Toadkiller: The mine one is 20g, not 24g |
| 16:25.36 | Toadkiller | so dont do emanations... |
| 16:25.38 | RaydenUni | durcyn if you have your epic you do'nt need to do emanations |
| 16:25.41 | Silowyi | and two of the dailies are now 10g |
| 16:25.50 | Toadkiller | do other ones |
| 16:25.50 | RaydenUni | but the issue is getting gold for your epic, and you only have 6 dailies at that point |
| 16:26.07 | steev64 | pick up mining and herbalism |
| 16:26.11 | Xuerian | lern2gather |
| 16:26.18 | Toadkiller | lol you have the entire netherwing set as well right... |
| 16:27.07 | Xuerian | Toadkiller: You can't do the netherwing dailies if you don't have epic flying yet |
| 16:27.07 | steev64 | nice |
| 16:27.07 | Silowyi | Blade's Edge, Shadowmoon, and Netherstorm doing all the quests will net you almost 5k gold |
| 16:27.08 | Toadkiller | ah |
| 16:27.08 | Silowyi | in exp to gold conversion |
| 16:27.09 | steev64 | Silowyi: yep |
| 16:27.12 | Xuerian | Toadkiller: It'd be sweet if you could... Almost exalted by the time you had the gold |
| 16:27.15 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54505 10BulkMail2/ (4 files): |
| 16:27.15 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2: 2.3 |
| 16:27.15 | CIA-4 | - ghetto branch merge cuz i suck at svn |
| 16:27.17 | RaydenUni | <Toadkiller> lol you have the entire netherwing set as well right... <-- those are only available once you have your epic |
| 16:27.34 | Silowyi | <3 background downloader |
| 16:27.44 | RaydenUni | so you are limited to 6 dailies and around 60g a day which would take you ~75 days |
| 16:28.02 | Toadkiller | I dunno im working on my 4th 70 with epic flying. Well, BLiksem my hunter is only 31 but she will be doing the new dustwallow stuff & leveling all the way. |
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| 16:28.31 | Toadkiller | So really only toad had issues with the netherwing quests &had an epic by the time that shipped so... |
| 16:28.40 | Silowyi | Getting a second epic mount is a hell of a lot easier than getting your first. IF you aren't smart with exp to gold conversion |
| 16:28.52 | Rafael | less than 75 considering the money you get from vendoring, selling, DE the crap you loot while doing those 6 dailes |
| 16:29.03 | Toadkiller | I used my warriors money quests to pay for Toad's ... ;-p |
| 16:29.07 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54506 10BulkMail2/BulkMail-deDE.lua: |
| 16:29.07 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2: |
| 16:29.07 | CIA-4 | - apparently i suck at ghetto branch merges too; adding deDE file that someone committed to branch. Thanks, whoever you are. |
| 16:29.08 | RaydenUni | Rafael 75 is based purely on dailies |
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| 16:29.16 | RaydenUni | and most people can't DE |
| 16:29.40 | RaydenUni | i don't know what point i'm arguing |
| 16:29.48 | Rafael | me niether |
| 16:29.49 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54507 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc BulkMailInbox-enUS.lua BulkMailInbox.lua): |
| 16:29.49 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2Inbox: 2.3 |
| 16:29.49 | CIA-4 | - still suck |
| 16:29.49 | CIA-4 | - still ghetto |
| 16:29.49 | Xuerian | It's fun to argue without a point |
| 16:29.51 | RaydenUni | i guess that dailies are good but not perfect? |
| 16:29.52 | sb | hyperChipmunk: so you just broke BM2 for 2.2 clients? :p |
| 16:29.59 | hyperChipmunk | bite meh |
| 16:30.00 | Toadkiller | You are arguing for the lazy dont wanna farm point? |
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| 16:30.05 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 16:30.08 | RaydenUni | i don't really have a point |
| 16:30.15 | RaydenUni | just arguing cause i'm bored i guess |
| 16:30.20 | hyperChipmunk | don't update until tomorrow, euro punk |
| 16:30.25 | sb | :o |
| 16:30.31 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Doing dailies is still good, as well as doing all netherstorm/smv/be quests. But gathering fills in the gaps too |
| 16:30.31 | RaydenUni | i finally got my mining to 300 so now i'm mining in outlands |
| 16:30.37 | RaydenUni | hopefully that will help with income |
| 16:30.45 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Run a circut of hellfire till you can mine adamantite |
| 16:30.47 | Xuerian | Then run nagrand |
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| 16:30.54 | RaydenUni | yeah i'm at around 218 now i think |
| 16:30.57 | Rafael | actually i found that if I farmed for primals instead of wasting time looking for the damn skettis prisoner I made way more money...unles you can find prisoner right away...its not worthing wasting time |
| 16:31.01 | RaydenUni | er |
| 16:31.02 | RaydenUni | 323 |
| 16:31.28 | Xuerian | Rafael: Unless there's lots of people doing the quest, he's easy to find |
| 16:31.33 | RaydenUni | i find it's best to try to find a group for skettis as quick as possible. increase your chance of finding him and fewer alliance problems |
| 16:31.39 | Xuerian | Rafael: Anyway, primals dont' go towards your skyguard rep |
| 16:31.52 | RaydenUni | skyguard rep isn't good for anything but the mount |
| 16:32.01 | Obelixprime | The ribbon is good for farming |
| 16:32.01 | Xuerian | Mount is what we're talking about at the moment |
| 16:32.06 | RaydenUni | and the cape i guess |
| 16:32.10 | RaydenUni | ribbon? |
| 16:32.18 | Obelixprime | Ribbon of gallantry |
| 16:32.32 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 16:32.33 | steev64 | that is a nice trinket indeed |
| 16:32.38 | Obelixprime | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32771 |
| 16:32.40 | Kuja^ | hyperChipmunk: i'd commited the deDE translation, shold i have waited until today with that? |
| 16:32.42 | Xuerian | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32770 |
| 16:32.50 | hyperChipmunk | Kuja^: nope |
| 16:32.54 | hyperChipmunk | thank you for it |
| 16:32.55 | Xuerian | Oh, not that |
| 16:32.56 | Xuerian | hm |
| 16:32.57 | hyperChipmunk | you were correct |
| 16:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | i was the idjit |
| 16:33.14 | Xuerian | Well two different versions |
| 16:33.40 | RaydenUni | i don't think that trinket is of much use for a shadowpriest |
| 16:33.44 | Obelixprime | depends but either way its pretty good |
| 16:33.51 | Rafael | well i said...'unless you can find the prisoner right away' ...if you cant it means its probably too crowded and being camped.. |
| 16:34.13 | Obelixprime | well, if i had crusade I would still use the ribbon since i don't have to stack charges |
| 16:34.18 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31856 <-- better for spriest, albeit more expensive |
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| 16:34.42 | Obelixprime | RaydenUni: I agree that crusade is better for spriests while raiding, but not for farming |
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| 16:35.10 | Obelixprime | You can stack +dmg for farming and just dot everything (if you have enough stam+dmg) |
| 16:35.19 | RaydenUni | can the ribbon proc while it's on? |
| 16:35.29 | kenlyric | stamina? |
| 16:35.30 | RaydenUni | shadow priests stack dmg anyways... |
| 16:35.34 | kenlyric | that's what fear is for. |
| 16:35.37 | Kuja^ | hyperChipmunk: err whats that zomgmail.lua entry in the toc? :P |
| 16:35.44 | Obelixprime | But what I like to do is stack crit and use the ribbon |
| 16:35.47 | Toadkiller | whats that priest beast that regens them mana? |
| 16:35.50 | Obelixprime | RaydenUni: yes it can |
| 16:35.54 | RaydenUni | Vampiric touch |
| 16:35.55 | hyperChipmunk | Kuja^: oops |
| 16:36.00 | Toadkiller | No the pet... |
| 16:36.01 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 16:36.02 | RaydenUni | Shadow Fiend |
| 16:36.05 | Toadkiller | tx |
| 16:36.15 | hyperChipmunk | Ace3GUI fiddling; thanks for catching it |
| 16:36.17 | kenlyric | fiend of fuck you moroes. |
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| 16:36.50 | Obelixprime | we got illidan to 15% last night :( |
| 16:37.01 | RaydenUni | shadow fiend is good for bosses and grinding mobs |
| 16:37.02 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54508 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMail2Inbox.toc: |
| 16:37.02 | CIA-4 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 16:37.02 | CIA-4 | - remove zomgmail.lua from .toc |
| 16:37.10 | Obelixprime | i need to do hyjal for better gear, our best shadowpriest absolutely destroys me |
| 16:37.12 | Aeyan | Mr. Wiggles |
| 16:37.15 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 16:37.34 | hyperChipmunk | Kuja^: where have you been all this time? we need more people in this channel like you |
| 16:37.36 | backbone87 | [RaydenUni]: shadow fiend is good for bosses <- haha |
| 16:37.55 | hyperChipmunk | backbone87: it restores mana, no? |
| 16:38.06 | backbone87 | it misses permanently |
| 16:38.07 | sb | yup - it does |
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| 16:38.16 | Kuja^ | hyperChipmunk: :) |
| 16:38.35 | Obelixprime | If you spawn it on the back of the boss it shouldn't miss as much |
| 16:38.43 | hyperChipmunk | it'll go to the back now |
| 16:38.58 | hyperChipmunk | pets got new logic and attack from behind if they're not tanking |
| 16:39.02 | backbone87 | sometimes you get a whole manabar, sometimes you dont even notice that you've got some mana back |
| 16:39.10 | hyperChipmunk | Kuja^: ofc now that i've found someone who actually uses BM, you're doomed |
| 16:39.50 | Kuja^ | haha |
| 16:39.57 | backbone87 | Obelixprime: it will avoid dodged and blocked hits, but not misses... |
| 16:40.01 | Kuja^ | BM is just awesome |
| 16:40.20 | Kuja^ | can't live without the autosend rules anymore... |
| 16:40.25 | Obelixprime | BM? |
| 16:40.35 | backbone87 | beastmaster hunter |
| 16:40.52 | Civrock | BulkMail. ;) |
| 16:40.53 | backbone87 | or not ^^ |
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| 16:40.58 | hyperChipmunk | they're even better now; I coded the blizzard categories dynamically, so they automatically now include all the changes they made to the AH categories |
| 16:41.01 | backbone87 | its just the same ^^ |
| 16:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | i was happy to see that it actually worked >8D |
| 16:41.28 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 16:41.31 | Obelixprime | better than gmail? |
| 16:41.56 | backbone87 | gmail brings some handy stuff with itself, like alt click appending :) |
| 16:42.05 | Obelixprime | i like that |
| 16:42.08 | Xuerian | altclick-love |
| 16:42.08 | backbone87 | cant live without |
| 16:42.36 | hyperChipmunk | you can do that w/ bulkmail, but if you just want it for that, use Bliz's new UI |
| 16:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | it's rightclick |
| 16:42.44 | hyperChipmunk | but mostly the same |
| 16:42.47 | Rafael | anyone know if ArkInventory works ok with 2.3? |
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| 16:43.21 | backbone87 | hyperChipmunk: right click to append? i could be scared if i use the my pot, which i want to append... |
| 16:43.38 | hyperChipmunk | you don't; it's like bank |
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| 16:44.06 | backbone87 | and then your trader runs away and you're fisted |
| 16:44.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's for mail |
| 16:44.34 | hyperChipmunk | mailboxes don't run away, last i checked |
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| 16:44.41 | backbone87 | yeah gmail enables alt click for trading, too |
| 16:44.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's retarded |
| 16:45.01 | backbone87 | why? |
| 16:45.01 | hyperChipmunk | use AltClickToAddItem for that |
| 16:45.05 | hyperChipmunk | because it's a mail addon |
| 16:45.32 | backbone87 | y should i use a additional addon, if the same functionality is used? |
| 16:45.46 | hyperChipmunk | because of this exact situation |
| 16:45.55 | hyperChipmunk | bliz replaced the functionality of part of it |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r54509 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-4 | -Tradeskill: Added leatherworking bag and bag of many hides to enUS |
| 16:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | but the other part totally unrelated to mail keeps you wanting to use the whole thing |
| 16:46.16 | backbone87 | and i know i dont like blizz UI :) |
| 16:46.50 | RaydenUni | <backbone87> [RaydenUni]: shadow fiend is good for bosses <- haha <-- i haven't paid attention to how much mana i get back, but that's what i've read on all my priest blogs |
| 16:47.10 | RaydenUni | are pets not affected by +hit at all? |
| 16:47.16 | backbone87 | yeah melee hit |
| 16:47.23 | gnorlish | is anyone in here hosting an ftp for the patch |
| 16:47.25 | RaydenUni | well that doesn't help at all then |
| 16:47.32 | backbone87 | so get your melee priest gear, for 10min boss fights :) |
| 16:47.47 | RaydenUni | i have too much spell hit right now... |
| 16:47.56 | backbone87 | who not ^^ |
| 16:47.58 | Xinhuan | gnorlish: you can download it via the .torrent file in the \cache folder in your wow folder |
| 16:48.02 | Xinhuan | in your favourite BT client |
| 16:48.07 | Silowyi | RaydenUni: One of our guild hunter's primary complaints is there's nothing he can do to bring his pet's miss rate down. |
| 16:48.18 | backbone87 | but if you're around 10% hit, its nice to have 2 points free for other things |
| 16:48.19 | Xinhuan | you just need to run blizz launcher/downloader at least once first to get the updated .torrent file |
| 16:48.29 | gnorlish | got it |
| 16:48.41 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude 07Beta * r54510 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3 - bump toc |
| 16:48.54 | RaydenUni | i have 141 hit and i'm at 4/5 on my talent |
| 16:49.06 | RaydenUni | both my trinkets add hit though and i need to replace those |
| 16:49.06 | backbone87 | why? |
| 16:49.32 | RaydenUni | well i got enough hit (77) and then kept getting gear that adds hit |
| 16:49.33 | RaydenUni | :P |
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| 16:49.41 | backbone87 | i respecc several times a week, so my hit talent is allways balanced to my current gear ^^ |
| 16:49.55 | RaydenUni | hmm, i should spend my extra talent points |
| 16:50.16 | backbone87 | 5/5 imp MB is <3 |
| 16:50.35 | Silowyi | hyperChipmunk: what all does AltClickToAddItem cover? |
| 16:50.43 | Silowyi | trading and mail? |
| 16:50.47 | CIA-4 | 03ackis * r54511 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 16:50.47 | CIA-4 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:50.47 | CIA-4 | -Added a couple missing leatherworking patterns (hard coded) |
| 16:50.53 | hyperChipmunk | AH, Mail, and Trade i think |
| 16:50.56 | Obelixprime | 5/5 imp MB is pointless |
| 16:51.00 | Silowyi | cool, thanks |
| 16:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 16:51.07 | Silowyi | is that on the wau? |
| 16:51.11 | hyperChipmunk | and buying reagents by the stack |
| 16:51.13 | backbone87 | Obelixprime: aha? |
| 16:51.14 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 16:51.20 | Obelixprime | 0.5 seconds isn't that much |
| 16:51.22 | Obelixprime | brb |
| 16:52.09 | Silowyi | why is some stuff in the wau crossed out? |
| 16:52.11 | backbone87 | i think the difference between 0/5 and 5/5 is 2,5sec... hmmm |
| 16:54.19 | Aeyan | For raiding, with excellent latency, I believe you only need 4/5 for a great rotation |
| 16:54.28 | Aeyan | However, perfect latency is hard to come by =P |
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| 16:54.49 | Aeyan | I'd support 5/5 |
| 16:55.02 | backbone87 | Aeyan: it is not realistic to keep a perfect rotation for a whole fight |
| 16:55.44 | backbone87 | Aeyan: so for my experience you are better on with some "intension" |
| 16:55.50 | Aeyan | Hehe, well, there's a couple fights you can just stand there and spam =P |
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| 16:56.03 | hyperChipmunk | Bibi: can I not insult you here? |
| 16:56.21 | backbone87 | Aeyan: yeah but on those fights, no one is interesseted in a shadowpriests dmg is 4% more or less |
| 16:56.41 | backbone87 | Aeyan: it's just for your personal feelings :) |
| 16:56.49 | RaydenUni | are the servers up or down? |
| 16:56.50 | Xuerian | Jumper Cables XL is no longer a trinket =O |
| 16:56.50 | Xuerian | win |
| 16:57.00 | Aeyan | They be down |
| 16:57.24 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 16:57.35 | Bibi | hyperChipmunk : noes |
| 16:57.36 | Bibi | sorryz. |
| 16:57.38 | Aeyan | Supposed not up for another 3 hours |
| 16:57.48 | Aeyan | +ly |
| 16:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 16:58.07 | RaydenUni | there aren't enough places for a shadow priest to put points |
| 16:58.11 | hyperChipmunk | stupid frenchman |
| 16:58.11 | RaydenUni | except crit dmg |
| 16:58.16 | hyperChipmunk | er, i mean...oops |
| 16:58.27 | |Stan| | frenchfries |
| 16:59.01 | RaydenUni | and there aren't enough disc spells that are useful to justify getting mental agility i don't think |
| 16:59.01 | Aeyan | Anyway, I was just saying that with 4/5 or 5/5 imp MB you can fit it well into a ~10 sec full rotation or so |
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| 16:59.10 | Aeyan | Without wasting time between spells |
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| 16:59.21 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 17:00.00 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 17:00.03 | RaydenUni | gotta go |
| 17:00.47 | Varazir[NA] | Can you change the langue you are talking in chat by / command ? |
| 17:00.56 | *** join/#wowace Spiffy (i=HydraIRC@129.21.131.247) |
| 17:01.06 | Silowyi | doesn't /language work for that? |
| 17:01.12 | Silowyi | like /language Darnassian |
| 17:01.17 | backbone87 | Aeyan: with shadowcloth stuff you cant even spam mb/swd the whole fight, without potting like a monster and have a shami at least |
| 17:01.17 | Silowyi | or what not |
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| 17:01.36 | Kemayo | "Health and mana values for your target can now be displayed numerically, as values or as percentages (was previously the case only for you/your party members)." |
| 17:01.36 | Varazir[NA] | got read help msg |
| 17:01.47 | Kemayo | ^^^ Does that mean MobHealth is no longer needed? |
| 17:02.06 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 17:02.20 | Arrowmaster | or atleast i highly highly doubt |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54512 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.toc: |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 17:02.28 | CIA-4 | -Updated toc for 2.3 |
| 17:02.32 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 17:02.50 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, what else would it mean ? |
| 17:03.03 | rubik | maybe it means cross faction? |
| 17:03.06 | rubik | shrug |
| 17:03.06 | Arrowmaster | default interface only shows numeric values on player and party frame |
| 17:03.12 | Arrowmaster | not on target frame |
| 17:03.18 | cncfanatics | "(was previously the case only for you/your party members)" |
| 17:03.23 | Xuerian | "Fixed the position of a mineral node in the Blade's Edge Mountains so that it is no longer floating in the air": Haha, I mined khorium from that |
| 17:03.47 | Arrowmaster | so now the target frame will show a numeric value instead of nothing |
| 17:03.54 | Kemayo | Fair enough |
| 17:03.59 | Poof | lol |
| 17:04.00 | Poof | Nice |
| 17:04.08 | Poof | svn.wowace.com is showing as an invalid hostname, eh? |
| 17:04.28 | Poof | Now it works... figures |
| 17:04.38 | backbone87 | cncfanatics: i didnt saw the blizz unit frames since two years, but i expect if you had a target, of which you even know the correct health, it displayed the percent values? |
| 17:05.04 | hyperChipmunk | maybe it means that you see people in your group when targetted |
| 17:05.28 | Varazir[NA] | I'm using prat and I can't finde a settings for the language |
| 17:05.32 | Arrowmaster | default unitframes dont show any value on the bar at all in 2.2 |
| 17:05.40 | Arrowmaster | even if you target yourself or a party member |
| 17:05.57 | backbone87 | Arrowmaster: blizz unit frames are pain shit |
| 17:06.50 | Kody- | Funkeh`: tag added :P |
| 17:06.59 | backbone87 | Arrowmaster: for healing it's a kind of searching the information, instead of "get the information delivered" as an UI should do |
| 17:07.10 | Poof | So, Blizz add coords to the default UI now too?=) |
| 17:07.15 | Funkeh` | Kody-, thanks |
| 17:08.41 | Cyrez | If you can see a mob's health value without an addon, MobInfo would get a big chunk knocked out of it. And they'd need to put in some code to purge the health DB since it'd just be taking up space. |
| 17:08.53 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 17:08.54 | purl | i heard cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author, or "<Orionshock> honem: it's cncfanatics , so FB is FlexBar" |
| 17:09.12 | cncfanatics | good, orion didn't change it :p |
| 17:09.17 | Arrowmaster | mob health detection code is really small |
| 17:09.19 | Poof | Ya Cyrez.. |
| 17:09.24 | Arrowmaster | and doesnt need to store data |
| 17:09.32 | Poof | Also, then we can see how wrong websites are on bosses' health =0 |
| 17:09.43 | Cyrez | I know, but I told MH3 to save the data. |
| 17:09.59 | Arrowmaster | when i used it i had MH3 store too |
| 17:10.02 | Spiffy | hm.. anime seems like a viable option while waiting for servers to come back =p |
| 17:10.08 | Cyrez | Even hacked in the health for rabbits. |
| 17:10.12 | Cyrez | (1HP) |
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| 17:10.57 | nevcairiel | they have more then 1 |
| 17:10.57 | nevcairiel | a lvl 1 char cannot always one hit them |
| 17:10.57 | Arrowmaster | like 5hp or so |
| 17:11.04 | kenlyric | does mh3 store data? |
| 17:11.11 | nevcairiel | it can, if you want it to |
| 17:11.16 | balstor | or cnc you could go make a blind change to flexbar to get the cooldown on macros :P |
| 17:11.17 | Arrowmaster | the brewfest whorpletingerthings i couldnt always 1shot on my 70warlock with a brewstin |
| 17:11.18 | Cyrez | It's off by default. |
| 17:11.25 | Cyrez | I turned it on, personally. |
| 17:11.26 | Xuerian | Has anyone gathered a list of changes to old dungeon loot tables? |
| 17:11.33 | kenlyric | it would be kinda silly, it knows what it's doing after a hit or two anyway. |
| 17:11.35 | Cyrez | Because it's more accurate than MI's code. |
| 17:11.49 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: wowhead |
| 17:11.51 | kenlyric | though some elites still shock me :) |
| 17:12.02 | cncfanatics | balstor, I'm lvl'ing my character atm |
| 17:12.02 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Bosses are simply updated? |
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| 17:12.05 | cncfanatics | wait till i'm 70 tbh :op |
| 17:12.10 | Arrowmaster | i turned it on just to know how much before pulling |
| 17:12.17 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: or mmo-champion |
| 17:12.38 | balstor | bahhh you run out of rested experience at some point :) |
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| 17:13.13 | cncfanatics | who says I stop then ? |
| 17:13.19 | cncfanatics | I'm 63, Wanne get 70 already |
| 17:13.31 | balstor | yhea my druid is stuck at 67 |
| 17:13.47 | cncfanatics | go lvl ? |
| 17:13.56 | balstor | servers are atill down |
| 17:14.56 | Spiffy | is there a big difference/reason to switch to WAU 2.0 vs. 1.9.45? |
| 17:14.57 | kenlyric | playing without rest makes... you know the rest. |
| 17:15.46 | cncfanatics | I've done nearly all my lvls without rested |
| 17:15.47 | Xuerian | spiffy: I couldn't see Carto_Routes in 1.9x for some reason |
| 17:16.06 | kenlyric | I'd only do it if I reallly needed the character to max level. |
| 17:16.15 | cncfanatics | I'm rerolling |
| 17:16.20 | cncfanatics | so I kinda do kenlyric :) |
| 17:16.31 | kenlyric | then it's ok. I did the same when I rerolled. |
| 17:16.37 | kenlyric | But other than that, it's crazytalk |
| 17:16.46 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r54513 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: bump toc |
| 17:17.11 | kenlyric | the whole inn thing and rest is dumb too. |
| 17:17.37 | cncfanatics | well, screw rested from 2.3 on |
| 17:17.41 | cncfanatics | lvl'ing is gonna go fast anyway |
| 17:17.46 | Spiffy | where can I download WAU 2.0? |
| 17:17.52 | kenlyric | i get the functional idea behind rest, I don't the whole inn thing. |
| 17:17.54 | Spiffy | can only find the 1.9 release atm |
| 17:17.55 | kenlyric | is it RP? |
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| 17:18.11 | kenlyric | www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:18.12 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 17:18.14 | kenlyric | last I looked |
| 17:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | resting in an inn vs. camping out in the wild |
| 17:18.45 | kenlyric | just give us tents like FF |
| 17:18.51 | kenlyric | rested in the wild for cash. |
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| 17:19.07 | hyperChipmunk | well, it's not like you're ever more than 5m from an inn |
| 17:19.38 | kenlyric | it's mostly just annoying. |
| 17:20.02 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r54514 10/trunk/ (174 files in 171 dirs): .trunk: Bump toc for various addons and libraries working on the PTR |
| 17:21.03 | Silowyi | is there any advantage to using wau 2? |
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| 17:21.15 | kenlyric | if you're on linux I think :) |
| 17:21.40 | Silowyi | oh you can go with svn copies here, nice |
| 17:22.10 | balstor | cncfanatics how mutch longer do you think you will be up? |
| 17:22.16 | Arrowmaster | so they have this world pvp gank list thread on my realm forums where the names of 3 people from one faction get listed and whoever kills one of them and posts a screenshot of it gets to post 3 new names from their own faction to be the new targets but battleground/arenas dont count |
| 17:22.21 | kenlyric | I have a block against starting the jvm. |
| 17:22.24 | cncfanatics | balstor, I go to sleep in about 4-5h |
| 17:22.26 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 17:22.36 | Arrowmaster | but half of my server doesnt move 50yards from the battlemasters |
| 17:23.03 | balstor | well once the servers come up if there is an issue it's easier to ask you the file name then go to find it myself |
| 17:23.14 | Arrowmaster | and the other half doesnt leave a major city alone |
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| 17:23.57 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: that mostly decided my choice to buy an epic mount. Flying from the battlemaster to the bank just doesn't take that long. |
| 17:24.09 | kenlyric | sometimes I'm too lazy to even fly. |
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| 17:24.18 | cncfanatics | balstor, there are no issues with 2.3 as far as I know |
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| 17:24.27 | cncfanatics | I'll fix bugs though ofc, just won't add new features till I'm done lvl'ing |
| 17:24.34 | balstor | kay |
| 17:25.08 | Arrowmaster | i need to do arenas this week, need some points |
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| 17:30.47 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r54515 10Nauticus/ (NautCore.lua NautUI.lua data.lua): |
| 17:30.47 | CIA-4 | Nauticus: |
| 17:30.47 | CIA-4 | - fix some saved var settings not being set or read correctly |
| 17:30.47 | CIA-4 | - optimise icon redraw; pre-compute concats and relocate local declarations |
| 17:30.47 | CIA-4 | - extend interesting zone list to show minimap icons when in Org+UC |
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| 17:34.13 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r54516 10DBMFTLBBQ/ (DBMFTLBBQ.lua DBMFTLBBQ.toc): DBMFTLBBQ: Update toc, update for latest dbm |
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| 17:37.40 | CIA-4 | 03Octane666 * r54517 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc: |
| 17:37.40 | CIA-4 | SpamMeNot: |
| 17:37.40 | CIA-4 | - Updated .toc file for patch 2.3 |
| 17:38.07 | RaydenUnic | still down? |
| 17:40.56 | Plagous | yeah |
| 17:41.23 | cncfanatics | how late is it in the US atm ? |
| 17:41.28 | cncfanatics | wondering how much hours they're late |
| 17:41.43 | Plagous | it's almost 1pm EST |
| 17:41.53 | nevcairiel | doesnt blizz work off PST? |
| 17:42.00 | Aeyan | Yes |
| 17:42.01 | Cryect | yep |
| 17:42.03 | *** join/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-71-173-198-80.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:42.06 | Cryect | its only 9:40AM there |
| 17:42.09 | Aeyan | 9:42 PST, I think |
| 17:42.10 | Plagous | right |
| 17:42.18 | Aeyan | Not supposed to be up until 11:00AM PST |
| 17:42.41 | ramoz | 2.3 are rolling out in the US now? |
| 17:42.45 | Aeyan | Yep |
| 17:42.46 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:42.57 | Cyrez | An hour and change. |
| 17:42.58 | Plagous | it's out, just waiting for the servers to come back up |
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| 17:43.06 | ramoz | how big was the patch? |
| 17:43.12 | Cyrez | 230ish |
| 17:43.18 | Aeyan | 281mb |
| 17:43.21 | Plagous | 281 total |
| 17:43.35 | Cyrez | Er, yeah, that's what I meant. >< |
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| 17:43.49 | balstor | you need 1.3 GBi free to install the patch |
| 17:43.51 | ramoz | 51mb to download if you have part 1 and 2 then? |
| 17:43.55 | nevcairiel | EU is 291 already, HA we get more content then US |
| 17:43.56 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:44.12 | Plagous | i only had to download 7mb this morning |
| 17:44.23 | balstor | you use to many letters in your words and all those strange symbols above your letters |
| 17:44.29 | rubik | hahaha |
| 17:44.55 | rubik | yeah.. it's zee jermanz' fault.. every word having 25+ letters |
| 17:45.00 | balstor | heck the german verbs alone would be an extra megabyte |
| 17:45.02 | Plagous | lol |
| 17:45.05 | Aeyan | To true |
| 17:45.56 | Eternally777 | Is there still an IRC channel dedicated to commit messages? |
| 17:45.59 | Toadkiller | Question: hunter pets have commands like feed, dismiss, revive, etc. Do other classes pets have similar stuff? |
| 17:46.05 | cncfanatics | Eternally: #wowace-cia |
| 17:46.13 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, no |
| 17:46.13 | ramoz | Toadkiller: no |
| 17:46.18 | Eternally777 | cncfanatics: Thank you. |
| 17:46.30 | Plagous | demons don't need food =P |
| 17:46.40 | balstor | and 2.3 has the new pet bar crap to |
| 17:46.42 | Toadkiller | What about warlocks? do they have some kinda suck life from my pet thing or is that just a separate spell? |
| 17:46.51 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ecole (n=nospam@155.31.172.182) |
| 17:46.59 | Toadkiller | Ooh, a new pet bar eh? |
| 17:47.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 17:47.06 | break19 | separate spell |
| 17:47.18 | Plagous | 'locks have a spell that takes life from you to heal your pet |
| 17:47.22 | break19 | and its health funnel, from player to pet |
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| 17:47.48 | cncfanatics | tbh, hunter commands are also just spells |
| 17:48.15 | Plagous | cncfanatics: yep |
| 17:48.48 | Toadkiller | YEah I treat everything that way except for the "Alchemy" ability or "Angeling" for german fishermen which get screwed by blizzard for some unkown reason |
| 17:49.22 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller |
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| 17:49.25 | Xuerian | Cenarion Circle is already up o_0 |
| 17:49.26 | Toadkiller | hacky 1st spell in spell book is supposed to be "Attack" code imo |
| 17:49.36 | cncfanatics | thats because the first spell in the combatlog currently bugged |
| 17:49.39 | Kivin | CC is up?? wtf |
| 17:49.43 | cncfanatics | you cannot /cast the first spell in ur book |
| 17:49.59 | cncfanatics | and as secure buttons use the same API as /cast, we're screwed :) |
| 17:50.00 | Toadkiller | Yes, due to some hacky code |
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| 17:50.09 | Kivin | lies, Cenarion circle isn't up |
| 17:50.11 | cncfanatics | they just messed up something, and i'm wondering what tbh |
| 17:50.33 | Toadkiller | Lol or an off by one error but that seems unliklely |
| 17:50.44 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: TOC bumps? ^^ <3 |
| 17:51.06 | Toadkiller | My guess is they treated "Attack" as special at some point |
| 17:51.10 | Xuerian | Kivin: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 17:51.19 | CIA-4 | 03sylvanaar * r54518 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: TOC 20300 |
| 17:51.23 | Toadkiller | & it used to be alphabetically the first |
| 17:51.34 | Plagous | CE's back down |
| 17:51.35 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, tick the checkbox :p |
| 17:51.44 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller |
| 17:51.46 | Cyrez | lol, K. |
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| 17:51.47 | cncfanatics | not possible |
| 17:51.49 | Xuerian | Haha. It's been up twice so far |
| 17:51.50 | cncfanatics | alchemy is also buggy |
| 17:51.52 | cncfanatics | and attack is also |
| 17:51.56 | cncfanatics | and fishing on german clients |
| 17:52.17 | Toadkiller | YEs, & always when in first slot which has the hacky code imo |
| 17:52.35 | Obelixprime | good god, i'm going to have 30% mana regeneration tonight |
| 17:52.36 | cncfanatics | doubt it |
| 17:52.37 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.38 | cncfanatics | used to work just fine |
| 17:52.46 | Toadkiller | Oh it got broken? |
| 17:52.46 | cncfanatics | and alchemy always has been first if learned since it exists |
| 17:52.47 | LetheKai | lol Obel |
| 17:52.55 | cncfanatics | 2.2 broke it Toadkiller |
| 17:52.58 | Toadkiller | aha |
| 17:53.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Obelixprime: lol, grats? i'm getting ~50 mp/5 :p |
| 17:53.17 | LetheKai | I'm farming badges. -_- |
| 17:53.19 | Obelixprime | well, i'm a spriest so its not that much of a buff |
| 17:53.36 | Obelixprime | NightHawkTheSane: what class are you? paladin? |
| 17:53.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Obelixprime: shammy |
| 17:53.53 | Obelixprime | ah |
| 17:53.54 | Obelixprime | Rebirth cooldown reduced to 20 minutes, from 30 minutes. |
| 17:53.59 | Obelixprime | would have helped last night for illidan :( |
| 17:54.09 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, it'll help tonight on nightbane. |
| 17:54.29 | CIA-4 | 03sylvanaar * r54519 10Prat/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Prat: TOC 20300 for packaged components |
| 17:54.42 | balstor | if you get ressed you should take no damage from dieing imho |
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| 17:55.34 | Obelixprime | one time on nightbane we had our MT (who was a druid) brez on transition between p1/p2 |
| 17:55.40 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r54520 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Change sound files back to mp3 |
| 17:55.40 | Obelixprime | that was neat |
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| 17:55.54 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit, hit cmd-w on the wrong window. >< |
| 17:56.14 | FrostByghte | anyone know an addon that will allow you to move the status bar for a world pvp object changing hands? |
| 17:56.27 | FrostByghte | er objective |
| 17:56.43 | *** part/#wowace Obelixprime (n=Chris@63.73.69.132) |
| 17:57.14 | Kivin | Frost, simpleMinimap |
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| 17:57.26 | Kivin | if you need the slider bar that indicates horde/alliance influence of a capture point |
| 17:57.38 | FrostByghte | oh hell, I didn't know it did that...I have it installed already |
| 17:57.45 | FrostByghte | ya that slider bar, I want to move it |
| 17:57.49 | Kivin | right click on it and uncheck the "lock minimap" |
| 17:57.55 | FrostByghte | gotcha |
| 17:57.59 | Kivin | right click again, find the menu for extra frames or whatever it is |
| 17:58.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "enable movers" is the menu item, not sure exactly where it is |
| 17:58.16 | Kivin | there'll be an option to undock the durability, pvp influence, and something else... oh, quest timer |
| 17:58.22 | FrostByghte | okie |
| 17:58.29 | FrostByghte | thank you much |
| 17:58.34 | Kivin | very welcome |
| 17:58.50 | Kivin | i didn't know about that either til I asked on the forums... used to have my minimap in the bottom right corner and all that stuff got lost |
| 17:59.28 | FrostByghte | ya it's in a very odd location and annoys me a lot, glad to know I already have the ability to move it |
| 18:00.23 | Kivin | aye, i have mine in the center of my screen, right below the background score indicator |
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| 18:01.56 | Health | 2.3 US up yet? |
| 18:02.03 | Xuerian | cc is up yet |
| 18:02.05 | Xuerian | *again |
| 18:02.11 | kadrahil | i just logged in and was able to get the patch, don't know about the world |
| 18:02.33 | Chexsum | whats so special about CC!@# |
| 18:02.37 | kadrahil | CC? |
| 18:02.41 | Kivin | i don't show CC in my server list. it's blank. |
| 18:02.56 | Chexsum | enarion circle rp server which is up |
| 18:03.00 | kadrahil | oh |
| 18:03.08 | kadrahil | is it a new one? |
| 18:03.09 | Kivin | would be nice if it really was up... since that's my home server |
| 18:03.10 | balstor | the devs get RP sex on that server |
| 18:03.10 | Kivin | but it's not |
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| 18:03.18 | kadrahil | oh heh |
| 18:03.21 | Kivin | it's not new, i've been on CC for 3 years |
| 18:03.31 | LetheKai | Anyone from Ravenholdt? =) |
| 18:03.38 | kadrahil | no |
| 18:03.46 | balstor | burning legion babby |
| 18:03.51 | kadrahil | babby? |
| 18:03.59 | kadrahil | l2spell |
| 18:04.02 | Cyrez | < Tanaris |
| 18:04.10 | kadrahil | Stormreaver 4 lyfe |
| 18:04.20 | balstor | yhea i got some nerve damage recently so lacking control over a couple of fingers |
| 18:04.23 | Chexsum | pft barthilas ftw |
| 18:04.28 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: gonna try out ZA on your huntard? |
| 18:04.40 | LetheKai | Wow, I'm sorry Balstor. |
| 18:04.43 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: eventually, i'm going to try to speed level my 30 pally for now :D |
| 18:04.49 | cturner | < azuremyst, home of the nubs |
| 18:04.51 | Funkeh` | Kody-, um, I don't see the tag |
| 18:04.56 | balstor | it will heal just takes time |
| 18:04.57 | Funkeh` | its still at (ptr) |
| 18:05.07 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: i'm not in the lineup to go with the first raid tonight |
| 18:05.12 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: but i don't care, i have alts to level! |
| 18:05.29 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: also i need to try out the new hunter pvp changes ;) |
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| 18:05.39 | xyu` | JoshBorke: |
| 18:05.47 | LetheKai | Ohh yeah, alt time... rawr. |
| 18:05.53 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: so like, come duel me, just let me open with an aimed shot :( |
| 18:05.59 | Chexsum | omg we should have all put our chars where za would be to see what happens :P |
| 18:06.00 | break19 | hey balstor good luck on the healing.. mine never has unfortunately. |
| 18:06.12 | Chexsum | could have been imba hax |
| 18:06.27 | kadrahil | log in falling through the world ftw? |
| 18:06.27 | xyu` | are ze zervers up? |
| 18:06.28 | LetheKai | =\ break19 |
| 18:06.32 | Chexsum | kill people from under the stairs etc : |
| 18:06.43 | kadrahil | hah |
| 18:06.50 | Kivin | 54 minutes...! |
| 18:06.52 | kadrahil | 30 minutes left to get the patch :( :( :( |
| 18:06.57 | kadrahil | crap |
| 18:06.58 | kadrahil | now it sys 47 |
| 18:07.00 | balstor | yhea nerves are strange things and so slow cause of their nature, last time this happen it took a year for all the tingling to vanish |
| 18:07.00 | kadrahil | says |
| 18:07.06 | break19 | 10M cable ftw :p |
| 18:07.07 | Kivin | heh i got it earlier before the servers got bogged down |
| 18:07.07 | kadrahil | balstor: :( |
| 18:07.13 | LetheKai | >.< |
| 18:07.19 | break19 | balstor: what happened? |
| 18:07.28 | Spiffy | anyone have a link to an overhead view of Zul'Aman? |
| 18:07.30 | Aeyan | I downloaded it yesterday with the almighty utorrent |
| 18:07.36 | Spiffy | or was that mapped in atlas yet? |
| 18:07.59 | Funkeh` | Kody-, ping |
| 18:08.01 | Xuerian | Torttheldin is up |
| 18:08.06 | break19 | for me, it was a 600lb plate of steel landing square on my head. lol |
| 18:08.19 | Kivin | and why are you alive? |
| 18:08.25 | break19 | hardhat ftw :) |
| 18:08.41 | balstor | okay hold you arm next to your body and fold your fore arm back up along the front of your body towards your head, now point your hand straght down so your wrist is nearly fixing to break. then sleep on top of that arm. |
| 18:08.42 | Kivin | a hardhat can protect you from 600 lb of metal? |
| 18:08.46 | Xuerian | geeez |
| 18:09.01 | balstor | heardhats are great |
| 18:09.05 | break19 | its not the weight, its the angle and the velocity.. |
| 18:09.18 | break19 | it was standing upright, and went horizontal with me under it |
| 18:09.36 | break19 | balstor: ouch.. |
| 18:09.45 | Plagous | Spiffy: best i could find http://wow.curse.com/images/details/42306/ |
| 18:10.08 | balstor | it was either that or as my shoulder ripped apart it pinched a nerve. but it may also be in my spine to since my left hand is acting up, but that may just be sympathy pain. sigh, getting old is bitch |
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| 18:10.30 | break19 | balstor: amen to that.. my accident was in 98.. heh |
| 18:10.56 | break19 | i *still* have no feeling along the back of my right thigh, and my right toes just kinda twitch when I try to move em |
| 18:11.00 | Spiffy | thanks Plagous thats all I wanted |
| 18:11.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.16 | break19 | but I can walk without a noticable limp. yay :) |
| 18:11.22 | balstor | yhea hardhat saved me once or twice back in 98 while climbing ladders, steel pipes just pop out of no where |
| 18:11.28 | Kivin | what's the relative difficulty level of ZA? Is it in line with Tier 4 content? |
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| 18:11.31 | xyu` | Flying units can see ground units and vice versa at any altitude. Is this player characters? |
| 18:11.46 | balstor | ZA is doable if you can clear kara |
| 18:11.47 | Chompers | Kivin: it starts around Prince difficulty |
| 18:11.47 | break19 | steel worker too? I was workin at a shipyard |
| 18:11.54 | Plagous | Kivin: first boss is supposed to be around prince difficulty |
| 18:11.58 | LetheKai | Does anyone know a good mod that makes a noise whenever someone sends you a tell/groupchat/etc, and is decently configurable? ChatAlertsFu isn't bad, but my boyfriend has it too and its sounds aren't configurable, so when his comp chirps I think it's me. |
| 18:12.00 | Chompers | then gets to a T5 level difficulty |
| 18:12.01 | Xuerian | xyu`: I'm curious about that too, does that mean we aggro stuff as we fly over it? |
| 18:12.06 | Kivin | thx |
| 18:12.09 | Chexsum | first boss isnt hard but the rest require some skills |
| 18:12.14 | break19 | LetheKai: prat |
| 18:12.23 | Spiffy | im just wondering if my BT/Hyjal guild is going to 1 shot every boss so we can get the extra lewtz first try =p |
| 18:12.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: doubtful |
| 18:12.27 | LetheKai | Oh I have Prat, never realized it does the chirp thing. |
| 18:12.34 | break19 | yea.. it has a "sounds" module |
| 18:12.38 | LetheKai | I'll look into it, thanks! |
| 18:12.39 | Plagous | you wont have to worry about falling elementals though, those are annoying |
| 18:12.40 | break19 | just not enabled by default |
| 18:12.43 | cturner | LetheKai: WoW Instant Messenger does it, at least for whispers |
| 18:12.50 | Chexsum | dont go there with noobs |
| 18:13.01 | LetheKai | Definitely need one for party chat, incase I'm not paying attention. |
| 18:13.04 | balstor | naw to soft to do that, iwas running network hardware inside the contianment wall of a reactor was scaleing the ladders and there was this pipe i didn't see and climb into it . If wouldn't have been for the hard hat i doubt they would have ever found me |
| 18:13.07 | break19 | servers up? |
| 18:13.22 | Plagous | break19: no |
| 18:13.30 | RaydenUnic | i do believe i predicted this |
| 18:13.32 | Kivin | are they up <yet>? |
| 18:13.40 | RaydenUnic | either 2.3 will be awesome OR it will go down for a few hours |
| 18:13.43 | LetheKai | I'm excited to start ZA but I'm not Kara geared yet. >.< Recently 70 on this char. It sounds so fun though... |
| 18:13.43 | Xuerian | CC and Tortthelrin are still listed as up :) |
| 18:13.56 | RaydenUnic | LetheKai from what i hear ZA picks up where KZ leaves off |
| 18:13.59 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus people, it's only 10:15 PST |
| 18:14.00 | Kivin | Xuerian, I think you should close your client and restart it... they're not on my screen |
| 18:14.00 | RaydenUnic | so you gotta clear KZ first |
| 18:14.08 | break19 | "are they up yet? are they up yet?" gah |
| 18:14.16 | Chexsum | on ptr we had dps that were wearing quest items so its not that bad |
| 18:14.17 | Xuerian | Kivin: I said still listed as, because they're listed on the wow.com realmlist |
| 18:14.17 | Kivin | are they up <<<yet>>>? |
| 18:14.18 | Spiffy | LetheKai, if you play well and heavily buff yourself you shouldn't be a liability unless you're a tank |
| 18:14.19 | LetheKai | Well don't think it's necessary for each character, but difficulty-wise I heard that too. |
| 18:14.26 | LetheKai | Spiffy: Tankadin. =P |
| 18:14.28 | Kivin | oic |
| 18:14.29 | balstor | yhea if yu can't clear KZ the ZA will be bad |
| 18:14.41 | Chexsum | as long as youre not the tank you wont need awesome gear |
| 18:14.47 | Spiffy | mm.. yea.. if you're not KZ tank geared its goin to hurt a lot |
| 18:14.54 | LetheKai | Someone just a minute ago said Prince, but someone else told me the first boss is equivalent to Nightbane. |
| 18:14.57 | balstor | esp since to do ZA correctly you need to run it in 2 hours |
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| 18:15.13 | Chompers | both are about the same |
| 18:15.14 | Chexsum | nah bear boss is easy |
| 18:15.24 | cturner | prince and nightbane are comparable, so both are correct statements. ZA picks up after prince/nightbane in terms of difficulty |
| 18:15.27 | Chompers | if you're in blues gtfo to kara for a bit |
| 18:15.34 | cturner | bear boss is apparently a tank gear check |
| 18:15.46 | LetheKai | Eww really? I have a healset that's meh. Like 1.1k healing and 85 mp5 or something. Guess I'll just wait until I get s'more Kara/badge gear. |
| 18:16.06 | Kivin | I'm sitting at 1.1k heals but close to 160 mp5 without totems |
| 18:16.11 | Obelixprime | badge gear is pretty good |
| 18:16.12 | NightHawkTheSane | only 1.1k +heal? |
| 18:16.14 | cturner | LetheKai: that with primal mooncloth items? if not, get those, they're very nice |
| 18:16.19 | LetheKai | Prince was a lot easier for me on my last character hehe. But maybe it was a fluke thing. |
| 18:16.20 | Obelixprime | plus you'll get a lot of badges per weak |
| 18:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | you should be able to get better than that from 70 blues |
| 18:16.30 | LetheKai | Isn't Primal Mooncloth BoP? |
| 18:16.33 | xyu` | yeah 1.1 is low |
| 18:16.42 | Shirik|Ecole | LetheKai: yes |
| 18:16.44 | balstor | okay lets be honest usually the first boss of a folllow on instance is equal to the middle boss of the previous instance. but ZA is set up to be the follow on to kara, and if you can clear kara your not clearing ZA. bear boss yhea you might get him |
| 18:16.44 | cturner | LetheKai: yeah. go tailoring. it's all the rage among priests, apparently |
| 18:16.46 | LetheKai | NightHawk: I'm a tankadin, that's just random stuff that drops in instances that nobody else needs. |
| 18:16.55 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: fair enough. |
| 18:16.55 | xyu` | 1.5k ~ 1.7k healing is where you want to be pre-raid post kara |
| 18:16.57 | Kivin | 1.1 is pretty standard for blues. that's what i've got for non-heroic gear with pre-tbc enchants (+50 and +30 heals |
| 18:17.07 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: but for someone healing, that is low. |
| 18:17.09 | LetheKai | No enchants. |
| 18:17.16 | xyu` | oh |
| 18:17.19 | LetheKai | Yeah NightHawk, that's why I figured I'll be waiting. 8( |
| 18:17.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you can pretty easily get ~1400ish with pre-kara gear |
| 18:17.33 | xyu` | he doesn't have anything enchanted |
| 18:17.37 | xyu` | that's a lot right there |
| 18:17.39 | Chexsum | primal mooncloth is 300+heal and 40mp5 over what I wear without it - its a huge leap |
| 18:17.41 | Obelixprime | with devout i was running around 1400 |
| 18:17.41 | Obelixprime | err |
| 18:17.44 | Obelixprime | ds3 |
| 18:17.48 | LetheKai | Yeah NightHawk, my Priest had hmm... 1500 - 1600 +healing with no Kara drops. Over 100 mp5 as well. |
| 18:17.52 | LetheKai | And no primal mooncloth. |
| 18:17.53 | Kivin | Depending on your class, though, you may need more mp5 than actually +heals gear |
| 18:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: yeah, thats good. :) |
| 18:17.59 | Chompers | hope those badges are easy to gather up |
| 18:18.00 | xyu` | troo |
| 18:18.05 | Chompers | i want the whole dps plate set |
| 18:18.10 | LetheKai | Easier now than before Chompers! =D |
| 18:18.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: well, 22+ from kara.. 14 from za |
| 18:18.26 | Chompers | the queue for t5 is huge |
| 18:18.30 | Chexsum | 1400 heal and 125 mp5 will get you through za as a priest |
| 18:18.30 | Kivin | The guild with the highest progression on server is willing to let me heal Vashj and Kael at 1.1k heals as long as my mp5 is high |
| 18:18.33 | Chompers | easier to get stuff with badges |
| 18:18.34 | cturner | NightHawkTheSane: also the one-time quest for ZA for 10 badges |
| 18:18.40 | LetheKai | Mmm badges. |
| 18:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | cturner: right, but as that's a one-time thing i didnt include it ;) |
| 18:18.51 | break19 | i dun need no steenkin badges |
| 18:18.57 | break19 | no.. wait.. I do *cry* |
| 18:19.00 | LetheKai | Dang Kivin, you must have a bum-load of mp5. |
| 18:19.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it's also once-per-person-per-week, right? |
| 18:19.08 | Kivin | 150ish non-buffed, no totems |
| 18:19.18 | cturner | NightHawkTheSane: okay then daily heroic badge quest too! heh, that's repeatable :) |
| 18:19.25 | LetheKai | That's not that much... I mean for Kael/Vashj and 1.1k healing. Wow. |
| 18:19.25 | Kivin | 230-240 with pots and buffs, easy |
| 18:19.26 | Spiffy | u think its too obsessive to have the realm list window open in the client waiting for the list to pop? |
| 18:19.26 | NightHawkTheSane | cturner: true! |
| 18:19.38 | LetheKai | lol Spiffy |
| 18:19.40 | Kivin | *shrug* if they say it's alright, then it's alright. |
| 18:19.52 | cturner | NightHawkTheSane: though the thought of the unwashed honored-but-not-revered masses pouring into heroics as pugs scares me a bit |
| 18:19.53 | LetheKai | Well yeah Kivin, if they're good enough they can take anyone they damn well please. |
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| 18:20.04 | LetheKai | rofl cturner |
| 18:20.06 | Kivin | my server doesn't really have progression, especially horde side |
| 18:20.08 | NightHawkTheSane | cturner: so don't pug them? then its not your problem :) |
| 18:20.19 | Chexsum | ive only got 115mp5 with kara gear but i mostly just heal the raid so prefer spirit (450 or 750 trinketted) |
| 18:20.27 | Xuerian | Spiffy: Realmlist monitor with 30 sec check and sound alert ftw |
| 18:20.28 | RaydenUnic | i need to start building my heal set |
| 18:20.29 | cturner | NightHawkTheSane: oh, I don't pug except when recruiting. I just feel sorry for those who do |
| 18:20.34 | Kivin | As a shaman, spirit is insultingly bad for me |
| 18:20.39 | Obelixprime | need more badges |
| 18:20.41 | LetheKai | I tried a PUG once, it made me want to log off for the night. |
| 18:20.47 | NightHawkTheSane | cturner: i don't, they know what they're getting into, and if they don't, they deserve it |
| 18:20.47 | LetheKai | =( |
| 18:20.52 | RaydenUnic | some pugs can be really good |
| 18:20.57 | Chexsum | the wizard of oz robe + bangle is awesome |
| 18:20.59 | RaydenUnic | but i haven't pugged KZ or heroics |
| 18:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUnic: exception compared to the rule, though |
| 18:21.14 | RaydenUnic | i don't usually have too much trouble with pugs |
| 18:21.20 | RaydenUnic | mostly run SL and Mech though |
| 18:21.26 | cturner | pugs usually either suck or rock. not much middle ground in my experience |
| 18:21.27 | LetheKai | I have a permagroup of 3 total, so we usually recruit a healer and 1 DPS... but then we find a good healer and use them for every group, so really we're only picking up 1 DPS. |
| 18:21.31 | RaydenUnic | had a few atrocious runs but not too often |
| 18:21.34 | Spiffy | Xuerian, linkz? |
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| 18:22.00 | Kivin | Are the servers up yet? |
| 18:22.02 | Xuerian | Spiffy: Don't actually have one atim =X |
| 18:22.04 | LetheKai | Once I offered to help someone I vaguely knew from Blade's Edge with Vorpil in SLabs, and it was horrifying. |
| 18:22.05 | RaydenUnic | <Obelixprime> need more badges <-- me too. like 200 of them |
| 18:22.10 | Spiffy | ah |
| 18:22.38 | break19 | heh.. I'm not revered with anyone on any of my chars. :p |
| 18:22.42 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: thats why I tend to like my sort-of-core group of me and a couple friends. prot pally, spriest, and me (resto shammy). works nicely. :P |
| 18:22.42 | LetheKai | We actually got him down to 2% after numerous attempts, but all the DPS were killing adds instead of him at that point and he summoned/killed us. Ooo boy was I unhappy. |
| 18:22.50 | Chexsum | i heal a arms/fury tank for heroics - its hard |
| 18:23.08 | LetheKai | lol Chex |
| 18:23.16 | LetheKai | Like a lil challenge in your daily WoW huh? |
| 18:23.30 | balstor | Patch 8.4 Notes: The druid Overmind form has been fixed. |
| 18:23.47 | LetheKai | NightHawk: The current healer my RL friends and I have taken in hand is a resto shaman... Omigarsh love. |
| 18:23.47 | Chexsum | prayer of mending helps get him agro bbecause his spe definately doesnt |
| 18:23.47 | RaydenUnic | Overmind? |
| 18:23.48 | cturner | Chexsum: I armory stalk any tank I don't know and refuse to run with them if they're not prot. burned too many times. |
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| 18:24.00 | RaydenUnic | cturner you won't have to any more |
| 18:24.07 | LetheKai | Yeah Rayden. =\ |
| 18:24.09 | LetheKai | So creepy. |
| 18:24.16 | LetheKai | People getting up in my gear and spec when I'm not aware. |
| 18:24.22 | RaydenUnic | performance is better than spec |
| 18:24.24 | Kivin | cturner, hell, i do that for non-heroics |
| 18:24.36 | RaydenUnic | but if the warrior cant hold aggro when all i do is dot mobs, i want to know why |
| 18:24.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i just only group with guildies. >.> |
| 18:24.43 | LetheKai | lol Rayden |
| 18:24.43 | cturner | RaydenUnic: the view-spec-with-inspect thing? yeah |
| 18:25.03 | RaydenUnic | it's so annoying when the tank can't hold aggro. so boring |
| 18:25.07 | Kivin | I had to remind my Underbog's warrior to use sunder armor during Hungarfen a few days ago |
| 18:25.10 | Chexsum | all i can do is dot mobs with this guy when im spec'd shadow |
| 18:25.15 | Chexsum | nfi how we manage |
| 18:25.15 | RaydenUnic | swp, vt... sit and twiddle my thumbs |
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| 18:25.20 | Kivin | By the time we got to the hydra, he'd forgotten to sunder again |
| 18:25.40 | Obelixprime | lol, you guys are wimps |
| 18:25.41 | Chexsum | heh |
| 18:25.43 | Obelixprime | just go in arena gear |
| 18:25.48 | Obelixprime | and go full out and tank mobs |
| 18:25.48 | RaydenUnic | i caused a tank to quit the run once |
| 18:25.51 | LetheKai | Fury Warriors, Shadow Priests and Retadins are a constant battle for aggro, but other classes seem fine. Then again I always have my RL friends (mage and rogue) with me to mitigate the pain. |
| 18:25.54 | RaydenUnic | i was complaining about how i couldn't dps and he left |
| 18:25.57 | Chexsum | we had a pug tank in kara this week that wasnt sundering |
| 18:25.59 | Cyrez | A Warrior forgetting to Sunder? >< |
| 18:26.00 | balstor | thats why i will tank trash in PVP gear anymore if i did it im my tank gear i will not be able to hold agro |
| 18:26.01 | Obelixprime | if you have enough dps you should be able to take down any heroic/normal mob |
| 18:26.07 | Kivin | Yes, Cyrez |
| 18:26.14 | Cyrez | That is sad. |
| 18:26.16 | NeoTron | I am shocked that the US WoW forums are down! |
| 18:26.17 | Chexsum | lucky he was just the offtank |
| 18:26.17 | Kivin | Actually, tbh I thought Pitbull was not showing debuffs properly |
| 18:26.25 | LetheKai | lol Kivin |
| 18:26.31 | Kivin | I asked an honest question "is the warrior not sundering, or is my UI acting up?" |
| 18:26.32 | LetheKai | That's generous of you. |
| 18:26.51 | Kivin | He says "ya i been sundering" |
| 18:26.55 | RaydenUnic | "is the warrior a complete moron or is the software not working?" |
| 18:26.56 | Kivin | figures, my UI magically fixed itself after that |
| 18:26.58 | NeoTron | Kivin: let me guess, he didn't? |
| 18:27.04 | Gnarfoz | *sigh* |
| 18:27.07 | Health | Someone should check whether or not you can buy vindicator gear from champion's hall when servers are live! |
| 18:27.22 | LetheKai | Balstor: I've begun running into the overgeared tank issue. It's much less troublesome for tankadins than warriors, but still an issue. =\ |
| 18:27.25 | Gnarfoz | anyone got a link to a recent/working version of WoWMapViewer also works with TBC instances? |
| 18:27.25 | Kivin | And became broken again just before the hydra boss. we couldn't do the pulls of 4-5 broken/naga |
| 18:27.27 | Chexsum | that will come on teh 20th |
| 18:27.35 | RaydenUnic | overgeared tank issue? |
| 18:27.36 | Kivin | because aggro was all over the place |
| 18:27.42 | cturner | wish the server would hurry up. I have some schematics to farm, and I wanna know how busted my UI will be before raid tonight |
| 18:27.44 | LetheKai | If I don't take enough dmg, I don't get enough healing, and my mana bar won't charge up, but I still have to taunt as much to hold aggro. |
| 18:27.47 | Obelixprime | so, basically, green drops are only going to be from world/dungeon trash only? and bosses in lower level dungeons are all going to drop blue? |
| 18:27.52 | Gnarfoz | RaydenUnic: equip too good -> no rage through damage taken -> can't tank |
| 18:27.52 | RaydenUnic | oh |
| 18:28.01 | RaydenUnic | right, running dungeons naked to get rage |
| 18:28.09 | RaydenUnic | :P |
| 18:28.13 | LetheKai | Pallies get a milder version of the problem. |
| 18:28.19 | LetheKai | Usually ends in us drinking after EVERY pull. |
| 18:28.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, my prot pally friend usually swaps in some of his shockadin gear when tanking non-heroic 5 mans |
| 18:28.22 | Gnarfoz | our MTs wear T2 or something if they wanna do non-raid instances |
| 18:28.23 | LetheKai | Which I really hate. |
| 18:28.37 | balstor | LetheKai: for the headless horseman i was in pvp gear dual wielding my maces, ahhh that was fun |
| 18:28.42 | LetheKai | lol balstor |
| 18:28.49 | break19 | i got a 52 war that can generate more threat than most of the 60-65 wars I've pugged Ramparts with.. damn shame he dont have the mitigation, or I'd have logged him in just to embarrass the SHIT outta some newb tank-wanna-be |
| 18:28.52 | Chexsum | i tanked him in shadowform |
| 18:28.53 | RaydenUnic | i have too many things to work on in wow |
| 18:28.55 | Kivin | are the servers up yet :P |
| 18:29.07 | LetheKai | break19: are those other warrs prot? |
| 18:29.08 | RaydenUnic | complet my awesome shadowpriest gear, get my epic mount, start building a healing set |
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| 18:29.29 | break19 | LetheKai: they claim to be, whats bad is.. mine is arms/prot hybrid, emphasis on arms |
| 18:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | skill > spec, most of the time :\ |
| 18:29.52 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 18:29.56 | Kivin | A month or so back, I had to ask a warrior if he was in defense stance |
| 18:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | clichéd, but not unrue |
| 18:30.01 | NightHawkTheSane | untrue* |
| 18:30.02 | balstor | be back in a bit coffee is calling |
| 18:30.03 | LetheKai | Rayden: No kidding. Skyguard faction, Netherwing faction, farm for crafted armour, farm badges, farm Kara, farm heroics for gear (tanking/healing), raid, etc. |
| 18:30.08 | Kivin | "Click" he goes into defense stance. "... yes..." |
| 18:30.12 | break19 | balstor: bring me a cup back |
| 18:30.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Kivin: you have no idea how much i wish i could detect warrior stances >< |
| 18:30.17 | RaydenUnic | heh, worst case of gaining aggro: i got aggro on Attument when dps'ing his horse. my VE and VT generated more threat than the off tank |
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| 18:30.31 | LetheKai | rofl |
| 18:30.32 | balstor | with or without the baileys? |
| 18:30.34 | LetheKai | Wow. =( |
| 18:30.37 | RaydenUnic | although i think he got gouged or something |
| 18:30.50 | cturner | there needs to be some kind of rating system for players/toons, like amazon. click 1-5 stars on cluefulness. heh. |
| 18:30.50 | RaydenUnic | but i'm dps'ing midnight and all of a sudden i hear "aggro" wtf? |
| 18:30.59 | LetheKai | Oh well gouge is a threat pause, you can't blame a tank for losing aggro when they're gouged. -_- |
| 18:31.02 | RaydenUnic | Attumen *crit RaydenUnic !!!* |
| 18:31.09 | break19 | cturner: PlayerRating - its on files.* |
| 18:31.17 | joey` | oh look, maintenance extended, what a surprise |
| 18:31.22 | Kivin | @_@ |
| 18:31.30 | joey` | 1PM PST now |
| 18:31.32 | LetheKai | I always feel unreasonably guilty when I get feared/gouged and the mob runs off to eat a squishy. |
| 18:31.33 | NeoTron | so I mentioned nerfing of BT 2-3man farming yesterday. I think they hotfixed it before the patch because after our first night there, saturday evening, we got nothing but a few epic gems. No HoD, no patterns, no drops |
| 18:31.35 | RaydenUnic | still, it's a fun story |
| 18:31.41 | Cyrez | OMG... |
| 18:31.42 | break19 | well shit.. I wont be able to play today then.. |
| 18:31.45 | break19 | grhia1734 |
| 18:31.51 | RaydenUnic | the problem with KZ is if i don't hit Fade before I get hit, im dead |
| 18:31.54 | cturner | break19: built in or it doesn't much matter. gotta be in everyone's face. |
| 18:31.55 | RaydenUnic | one, maybe 2 hits |
| 18:31.57 | break19 | oops. time to change pws |
| 18:32.02 | NeoTron | the first night we got 6 HoD, 1 epic ring and 2 patterns |
| 18:32.02 | Gnarfoz | got an extreme case of bullshitting going on in our guild forums... someone trying to pass WoWMapViewer screenshots of Stormwind Prisons and "Stratholme Raid" (a.k.a. Naxxramas, the Kel'Thuzad/Sapphiron Portion that has no outside textures) as "new WotLK screenshots" taken on his "private server, with a developer account" xD |
| 18:32.03 | LetheKai | Right Rayden. =( |
| 18:32.26 | Cyrez | "blah blah blah...1:00PM PST. We thank you..." |
| 18:32.28 | Xuerian | break19: Bahaha |
| 18:32.32 | Xuerian | break19: gg :p |
| 18:32.34 | RaydenUnic | i then ran normal SL, it was amazing how long i lived |
| 18:32.37 | break19 | heh |
| 18:32.49 | Xuerian | CC and Tort are STILL listed as up XD |
| 18:32.53 | break19 | no matter, it was time to change em anyway.. I usually do that about once a month :) |
| 18:33.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah. Someone roust up ckknight and tell him to get over his uber sekret project and update his damn addons. |
| 18:33.12 | cturner | extended maintenance? I bet someone ran 'DROP TABLE Players' by accident. |
| 18:33.13 | break19 | also, good thing my acct name isnt the same as my irc name aint it. :p |
| 18:33.49 | NightHawkTheSane | cturner: http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 18:34.02 | Kivin | :( I tried to run an OPTIMIZE, but my fingers slipped and I hit DROP TABLE Accounts instead |
| 18:34.03 | cturner | NightHawkTheSane: indeed :) |
| 18:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got it stapled to the wall in my office at work |
| 18:34.32 | NeoTron | I love when I type my password in IRC or some equally public venue |
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| 18:34.34 | Obelixprime | 2.3 msd good for a shadow priest? |
| 18:35.13 | CIA-4 | 03bashui * r54521 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS.lua CatDPSTest.lua CatPoints.lua modules.xml test.lua): |
| 18:35.14 | CIA-4 | CatPoints: |
| 18:35.14 | CIA-4 | - |
| 18:35.15 | NeoTron | oh get this. I was going to use the new metagem (caster crit one) but realize that if I use my BT haste belt over belt of blasting I lose my second blue gem. sigh |
| 18:35.16 | hypetech | ugh 4 p.m. EST now? :( |
| 18:35.21 | Kivin | yes:( |
| 18:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft, go read a book or something ;) |
| 18:36.11 | break19 | I leave for work at 1230PST.. sucks |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-4 | 03bashui * r54522 10CatPoints/CatDPS-2.2.lua: |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-4 | CatPoints: |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-4 | - Last change fixed the bug with armor penetration |
| 18:36.25 | CIA-4 | - Removed 2.2 calculator. |
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| 18:40.25 | hypetech | a book? lawl |
| 18:40.35 | hypetech | I'll just go play with my dps spreadsheet some more :( |
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| 18:41.16 | NeoTron | addict! |
| 18:41.25 | NeoTron | problem with books to me is that they run out |
| 18:41.42 | kenlyric | I redid all of my leveling specs this morning for productivity! |
| 18:41.44 | cturner | read really boring ones. they last longer |
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| 18:41.55 | kenlyric | for some reason warrior seemd a lot easier |
| 18:42.56 | NeoTron | reading a boring book sort of seems counter productive |
| 18:43.35 | cturner | can't have everything :) |
| 18:43.46 | kenlyric | read Dyanetics. you have the added bonus that your brain might melt out. |
| 18:46.16 | Toadkiller | woohoo I got 2 extra hours to work on LibStickyFrames! |
| 18:47.35 | LetheKai | Does anyone know about how long it takes for them to update the talent trees on their website when changes are made? |
| 18:47.40 | cturner | anyone have a feel for how disruptive 2.3 is to addons? I didn't test mine on the PTR |
| 18:47.59 | Toadkiller | AutoBar seemed fine but I did not play a lot |
| 18:48.44 | Fisker- | US servers up yet? |
| 18:48.54 | Toadkiller | I only need to change some minor things for the druid buttons becasue of how shapeshift is instant between forms now |
| 18:48.57 | cturner | Fisker-: downtime extended 2hrs to 1pm PST |
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| 18:49.37 | Fisker- | so that's in ? hours? |
| 18:49.39 | Toadkiller | However, as usual I will be recommending our guild not raid tonight. It just never ever works out on major patch night |
| 18:49.47 | cturner | Fisker-: so 130 minutes from now |
| 18:49.49 | Fisker- | ok |
| 18:50.18 | cturner | Toadkiller: yeah, it's ugly. hopefully at least 10 of us can muster a ZA group, if not two, though. I want my lootz |
| 18:51.34 | abyx | bah the last 16 megabytes of the patch and the trackers aren't working for me |
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| 18:51.57 | CIA-4 | 03pb_ee1 * r54523 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: Updating TOC. |
| 18:52.33 | kadrahil | 2 hours longer maintenance :( |
| 18:52.41 | MoonWitch | are you kidding me? |
| 18:52.50 | kadrahil | no, it's on the MOTD when you go to log in |
| 18:52.54 | kadrahil | so now 3:00 PST |
| 18:53.24 | cturner | still says 1pm pst |
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| 18:53.42 | MoonWitch | cenarion circle is up according to realmstatus |
| 18:53.52 | Plagous | normal is 3-11pst, +2hrs = 1pm pst |
| 18:54.10 | xyu` | Plagous is right |
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| 18:54.38 | MoonWitch | which makes it .. 10pm for me lol |
| 18:54.43 | xyu` | and it's already 11 |
| 18:54.43 | MoonWitch | hey Tuller |
| 18:54.44 | xyu` | PST |
| 18:54.51 | abyx | make its 2pm for me :( |
| 18:54.57 | Tuller | hello |
| 18:55.01 | MoonWitch | 10PM for me means 10pm CET |
| 18:55.02 | MoonWitch | ;) |
| 18:55.26 | MoonWitch | anyone else using trillian for irc? |
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| 18:55.48 | Plagous | MoonWitch: used to, trying out Miranda IM atm - it's not bad so far |
| 18:56.10 | MoonWitch | I just wanted to ask how on earth do I save a connection (with channel) |
| 18:56.52 | MoonWitch | let's try something |
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| 18:58.42 | Ozguli | okay most recent |
| 18:58.43 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/WoWScrnShot_111307_205233.jpg |
| 18:58.48 | Ozguli | comments on my UI? |
| 18:59.01 | MoonWitch | i like the chat font |
| 18:59.02 | MoonWitch | which is it |
| 18:59.16 | Ozguli | party/raid frames go under the player frame, tooltip between toolbars and buffs |
| 18:59.36 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, what actionbars ? |
| 18:59.44 | Ozguli | bongos2 |
| 18:59.49 | cncfanatics | get FB tbh :p |
| 19:00.04 | abyx | "Ignite: This talent is no lingered triggered by damage dealt by Molten Armor." lol it seems as if blizzard failed at using a spellchecker |
| 19:00.05 | Ozguli | is it even any better? |
| 19:00.10 | MoonWitch | do you have the gui yet cncfanatics |
| 19:00.16 | nevcairiel | its not better |
| 19:00.18 | nevcairiel | its different |
| 19:00.25 | Plagous | lol, no lingered |
| 19:00.27 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, is that required ? :o |
| 19:00.30 | Ozguli | how better? |
| 19:00.34 | Ozguli | I like this one |
| 19:00.38 | MoonWitch | naah, but for me it's handier ;) |
| 19:01.07 | MoonWitch | I am using Bartander3 with modality, but bongos2 did the job without the need for extra. |
| 19:01.14 | MoonWitch | BUT it added more than I needed |
| 19:01.18 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, it allows you to move buttons seperatly, enable/disable modules to add/remove features |
| 19:01.25 | Ozguli | naa |
| 19:01.27 | Fisker- | anyone here experienced with leotheras btw? |
| 19:01.31 | cncfanatics | also allows full control of every button instead of every bar |
| 19:01.35 | MoonWitch | lemme look up everything from fb :) |
| 19:01.43 | Chompers | killed him last night Fisker- |
| 19:01.45 | Ozguli | I do fine like this, don't need any separate buttons and if I do I'll just make one-button bar |
| 19:01.47 | Chompers | pally pant gogogo |
| 19:01.50 | Chompers | *tank |
| 19:01.57 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, what u gonna do if u run out of bars ? :p |
| 19:02.00 | Fisker- | :O Chompers |
| 19:02.08 | Fisker- | how do you shot last 7%? |
| 19:02.09 | NivFreak | damn servers |
| 19:02.10 | Ozguli | who the hell needs that many buttons anyway? :P |
| 19:02.13 | nevcairiel | no normal player will ever run out of bars |
| 19:02.16 | NivFreak | get back up so I can remove sunder from my bar |
| 19:02.17 | NivFreak | 4eva |
| 19:02.21 | MoonWitch | apparently flexbar.nl is something ol and it's weird |
| 19:02.25 | Fisker- | last 15% actually Chompers |
| 19:02.26 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 19:02.27 | Chompers | nuke! |
| 19:02.34 | Chompers | but let the tank get initial aggro |
| 19:02.38 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
| 19:02.40 | CIA-4 | 03nogudnik * r54524 10Skillet/Skillet.toc: |
| 19:02.40 | CIA-4 | Skillet: |
| 19:02.40 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.45 | MoonWitch | ty |
| 19:02.47 | Chompers | so hold off dps just as he looses all agro |
| 19:02.49 | Ozguli | do my bars look as if they needed configuring? |
| 19:02.50 | nevcairiel | just heal both tanks, and nuke the normal form down |
| 19:02.57 | nevcairiel | nothing speicla |
| 19:02.59 | nevcairiel | do it like before |
| 19:03.01 | nevcairiel | no panci |
| 19:03.02 | balstor | flexbar question ??? cnc is to busy leveling /crack da whip |
| 19:03.14 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, tbh, I'm not into the bunch of buttons thing |
| 19:03.17 | cncfanatics | I like buttons spread out |
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| 19:03.36 | MoonWitch | well, it seems a handy thing |
| 19:03.39 | MoonWitch | FB2 .. |
| 19:03.59 | MoonWitch | I can group all my healing stuff etc and only have it appear when targeting friendly |
| 19:04.13 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 19:04.16 | MoonWitch | are the groups named with a frame (so I can hook eepanels to it?) |
| 19:04.19 | balstor | here is a fb2 layout with cycircle turned on (long story to why i used that skin) http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/Shaten/hkitty.jpg |
| 19:04.26 | Ozguli | I'm a rogue, no need for such stuff |
| 19:04.44 | MoonWitch | oh I am interested in the story as to why on earth you got hello kitty |
| 19:04.57 | Fisker- | :o Chompers |
| 19:05.01 | Fisker- | doesn't work well here |
| 19:05.24 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/uirogue.png (don't bitch me about the uncompressed 1600x120 png) |
| 19:05.25 | MoonWitch | which damage tracker is that cncfanatics? |
| 19:05.40 | MoonWitch | lolol |
| 19:06.03 | balstor | there is the femal hunter in our guild so we had her boyfriend sneak in and swap he entire UI over to hello kitty one night, I made the screen shot so her biyfriend had a way of tormenting her again with a hello kitty appearance |
| 19:06.08 | Xuerian | balstor: Good lord |
| 19:06.29 | balstor | and actually all the other themes in cycircle (pumpkin, and those) are kinda of crapy |
| 19:06.37 | cncfanatics | tbh, get dreamlayout skin |
| 19:06.42 | MoonWitch | currently I have violation and omen .. since violation doesn't wanna see my threat generated |
| 19:07.04 | Ozguli | cncfanatics get a better server if you wish to have such huge pics |
| 19:07.07 | MoonWitch | balstor, what damage meter ya got (sorry cncfanatics thought it was your ss) |
| 19:07.14 | balstor | recount |
| 19:07.20 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 19:07.45 | aestil | how the hell can a png be uncompressed? |
| 19:07.48 | cncfanatics | Ozguli, get me a better one with that much storage ? (10g free) |
| 19:07.51 | balstor | I use this 98% of the time cncn FlexBar2_Zoomed |
| 19:07.53 | cncfanatics | aestil, print screen :p |
| 19:08.07 | cncfanatics | balstor, does it work for you btw, I had Ellipsis complaining about it recently |
| 19:08.12 | cncfanatics | (make sure u got it updated from yesterday) |
| 19:08.20 | MoonWitch | I've been trying to get a good skin system going for cyCircled |
| 19:08.30 | MoonWitch | but the tga's keep going wonky lol |
| 19:08.40 | balstor | hmm yhea i was running it on my druid saturday |
| 19:08.42 | MoonWitch | cnc, printScreen with me gives jpg's |
| 19:08.45 | cncfanatics | cyCircled's system sucks |
| 19:08.49 | aestil | 4th boss in hyjal spanked us last night. |
| 19:08.53 | Ozguli | I've never got why people like their unit frames in the middle of the screen |
| 19:09.04 | aestil | after pretty much 1 shotting the first 3, he ramped up in difficulty quite a bit. |
| 19:09.04 | balstor | and my swing timer is my own mod :) |
| 19:09.05 | MoonWitch | aestil did you enjoy the spanking? |
| 19:09.08 | cncfanatics | cycircled should do GetTexture("Checked"||"Icon"||...); |
| 19:09.12 | cncfanatics | instead of having hardcoded locations |
| 19:09.24 | cncfanatics | plugins should be able to supply a god damn function that returns the texture |
| 19:09.25 | MoonWitch | cnc could you elaborate on that a little? |
| 19:09.39 | cncfanatics | sure |
| 19:09.41 | aestil | MoonWitch: i suppose. the first 3 were a bit too easy. |
| 19:09.55 | cncfanatics | currently, texture paths in cycircled are hardcoded |
| 19:09.57 | balstor | here is my flexbar setup from 2 years ago btw http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/Shaten/WoWScrnShot_071806_193303.jpg |
| 19:10.04 | MoonWitch | come to think of it, cyCircled will break most likely, there are new API functions for texturing I believe |
| 19:10.11 | aestil | whats a good mod that will make showing trinkets and short term abilities coming off cooldown? |
| 19:10.16 | cncfanatics | might get into rewriting it tbh |
| 19:10.23 | balstor | cnc use my swing timer :) it needs a testing more |
| 19:10.29 | cncfanatics | I do balstor, on my rogue |
| 19:10.32 | cncfanatics | works fine but not for ranged |
| 19:10.48 | balstor | yhea range is a f**king mess |
| 19:10.54 | MoonWitch | does fb use a lot of static memory? |
| 19:10.56 | cncfanatics | I don't care about my ranged attacks on rogue though :p |
| 19:10.59 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, 500kb |
| 19:11.13 | MoonWitch | that's about the same as bartender i believe |
| 19:11.17 | cncfanatics | why do u care about static usage though ? and yes it is |
| 19:11.24 | balstor | it works fne for autoshot. I may just rewrite it an add a 3rd bar just fro ranged attacks |
| 19:11.38 | MoonWitch | cuz those who plan on using my UI care about static mem more than increasing |
| 19:11.58 | MoonWitch | personally it was my challenge to go under 20mb while having my bells and whistles, but it's close to impossible. |
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| 19:12.04 | cncfanatics | ehm, no they don't ? |
| 19:12.05 | balstor | would be nice if my pinkies would press keys by the way |
| 19:12.11 | cncfanatics | why would anyone with brains care about static at all ? |
| 19:12.17 | cncfanatics | its the increasing that lags ur UI |
| 19:12.23 | MoonWitch | so I changed the plan - below 30MB is just fine. |
| 19:12.28 | MoonWitch | yeah I know |
| 19:12.38 | cncfanatics | are u making UI's for people with 128megs of ram or what ? |
| 19:12.38 | MoonWitch | those that have a bad increasing get deleted straight away |
| 19:12.42 | MoonWitch | hell no |
| 19:12.45 | durcyn | ~seen elkano |
| 19:12.49 | purl | elkano <i=86603dd5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-319eba6ca2df3efb> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 11h 30m 55s ago, saying: 'wasn't there a change so that you'll need to have been a real part of a team in order to be allowed the rewards meaning you need a min fraction of the team's games played? Or is that for S3?'. |
| 19:12.49 | MoonWitch | most have more ram than I have ... |
| 19:12.51 | MoonWitch | I have 1GB |
| 19:12.56 | MoonWitch | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:12.57 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 8h 20m 10s ago, saying: 'cryogen, rawr'. |
| 19:13.01 | cncfanatics | why u care then MoonWitch ? |
| 19:13.22 | MoonWitch | for them, since they want a lag free UI and believe lag is caused by addons taking up memory |
| 19:13.35 | *** join/#wowace trashkit (n=champ@71-14-103-098.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 19:13.35 | cncfanatics | then learn them a lesson |
| 19:13.35 | MoonWitch | whether it's static or increasing seems to be irrelevant to them |
| 19:13.37 | balstor | heck i hope this dual cpu change finally does somethoing useful for my computer |
| 19:13.39 | cncfanatics | instead of taking their crap |
| 19:13.44 | MoonWitch | and load times .. |
| 19:13.48 | LetheKai | Hope so, too, balstor. |
| 19:13.56 | Ozguli | balstor tell me more please? |
| 19:13.59 | cncfanatics | Load Times are taken by cpu time, not by putting stuff in memory, mostly |
| 19:14.00 | MoonWitch | I still don't have dual core *cries* |
| 19:14.02 | Ozguli | I have dualcore as well |
| 19:14.08 | break19 | balstor: if it doesnt.. can I have your other cpu since you wont be using it? :) |
| 19:14.11 | cncfanatics | calculations that take lots of cpu will take longer then just declaring huge tables |
| 19:14.15 | balstor | dual core bahhh i have 2 cous :) |
| 19:14.18 | MoonWitch | yeah, I think I am stretching my pc a little |
| 19:14.19 | aestil | what changed with dual core. |
| 19:14.27 | aestil | someone said that they improved dual core performance? |
| 19:14.27 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, go educate the morons you compile UI's for :/ |
| 19:14.29 | balstor | break19 you couldn't use my cpus |
| 19:14.38 | LetheKai | Didn't WoW basically only use 1 cpu before? |
| 19:14.41 | Xuerian | I just upgraded to a p4 2.8. /flex |
| 19:14.50 | break19 | balstor: whys that |
| 19:15.04 | MoonWitch | blizz changed so wow now spreads load over multiple cpu's if the machine has them |
| 19:15.13 | Toadkiller | >lua not nil |
| 19:15.24 | cncfanatics | not nil is true |
| 19:15.38 | balstor | i use AMD Athalon MP 2800+ cpus (there not consumer CPUs their the business variety) |
| 19:15.53 | Toadkiller | Trying to be careful drycoding here ;-p |
| 19:15.54 | MoonWitch | I have an AMD 64 3400 |
| 19:15.59 | break19 | mk? |
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| 19:16.15 | Toadkiller | but boolean comparison to non boolean breaks right? |
| 19:16.22 | break19 | I could build a machine around the cpu.. |
| 19:16.24 | cncfanatics | nil and false is nil |
| 19:16.26 | cncfanatics | nil and true is nil |
| 19:16.28 | cncfanatics | nil and nil is nil |
| 19:16.42 | MoonWitch | nil and true isn't that true? |
| 19:16.45 | Toadkiller | true == "spambelly"? |
| 19:16.50 | cncfanatics | thats nil MoonWitch |
| 19:16.56 | balstor | in fact my computer is around 6 years and still runs very very well ( 64 pci scsi controller hooked up to 320 scsi drives) 4GBi memory (register with ECC turned on) |
| 19:16.57 | cncfanatics | that errors Toadkiller |
| 19:17.11 | Toadkiller | Yeah thats what I thought |
| 19:17.21 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 19:17.26 | LetheKai | Afternoon. =) |
| 19:17.27 | Toadkiller | hey Zhinjio |
| 19:17.31 | MoonWitch | hey Zhinjio |
| 19:17.51 | MoonWitch | well balstor you have 3GB ram more ;) that might make a difference too |
| 19:18.04 | cncfanatics | btw, nil or false is false, not nil, if that'd matter any to you |
| 19:18.10 | MoonWitch | my mobo only supports 2GB and I can't be bothered getting a gig more. I need a whole new machine |
| 19:18.17 | cncfanatics | IMPORTANT: ram won't make WoW load faster |
| 19:18.25 | cncfanatics | as long as ur ram ain't full ofc |
| 19:18.36 | Xuerian | It's mostly cpu =X |
| 19:18.38 | MoonWitch | ofc .. lol only cpu power makes it load faster |
| 19:19.03 | MoonWitch | hence me wanting a new machine ;) but he didn't specifiy wow or other applications. Hence my statement |
| 19:19.09 | balstor | yhea i would replace this machine but none of the new machines are able to handle my scsi controller card (64 PCI 2.0 Quad Channel 320 spec with like 2 GBi cache on it) |
| 19:19.24 | cncfanatics | hard disk speed also limits loading times, sometimes |
| 19:19.34 | cncfanatics | depending whats faster, the cpu processing or the disk reading |
| 19:19.44 | MoonWitch | I am not getting a 10kRPM drive for WoW :P |
| 19:19.52 | balstor | 15k RPM 32 GBi 320 SCSI drives, got load times covered |
| 19:19.52 | cncfanatics | for compressed stuff, the cpu processing usualy takes more time so it shouldn't matter |
| 19:20.05 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, not talking about WoW here, but think about a huge SQL database |
| 19:20.12 | MoonWitch | yep, and that's where I am screwed ... |
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| 19:20.17 | cncfanatics | doubling ur disk speed could half ur database ping |
| 19:20.19 | Zhinjio | TK: I ended upwith one small complication from the discussion we had regarding transaction IDs. A non-loot-event being triggered by the same action would have the same timestamp. So I added an "index' digit so I can still use the same mode, and just increment the index when something will trigger two logged events |
| 19:20.30 | Zhinjio | Otherwise, its is implemented pretty much exactly as we discussed |
| 19:20.52 | MoonWitch | of course, but still... I don't want a 10K or 15kRPM drive, the heat generated would be nasty not to mentionthe damn price |
| 19:21.01 | Cyrez | Disk speed is also about the buffer, not just the RPM. |
| 19:21.18 | balstor | biggest database i ever ran was this 2TBi monster for Verizon, software upgrades onit took close to 18 hours |
| 19:21.18 | cncfanatics | ehm, don't get a disk then |
| 19:21.19 | MoonWitch | got 16MB of that, not the best, but not too bad either. |
| 19:21.21 | cncfanatics | get fancy flash |
| 19:21.27 | cncfanatics | some company brought out flash based disk |
| 19:21.29 | cncfanatics | they're FAST |
| 19:21.44 | Health | Any good loot tracking adddon? |
| 19:21.46 | MoonWitch | and expensive again too |
| 19:21.53 | Health | Perhaps I should check the site ;p |
| 19:21.55 | MoonWitch | xloot monitor? |
| 19:22.03 | balstor | break19 which shipyard were you working in when you had that date with a 600 lber? |
| 19:22.21 | MoonWitch | I WANT MY SERVER UP DAMNIT |
| 19:22.26 | break19 | Ingall's in Pascagoula, MS |
| 19:22.26 | MoonWitch | .... ok now that that is said |
| 19:22.28 | trashkit | is there an addon that lets you keep track of items you want? |
| 19:22.40 | balstor | hmm ever heard of kenner? |
| 19:22.55 | cncfanatics | trashkit, FB can do that, that does quite a bit more then that though :p (its an actionbar addon that can let you drag unusable items onto the buttons) |
| 19:23.01 | break19 | town right outside new orleans iirc |
| 19:23.22 | balstor | yhea I also grew up in poplarville :) (small world isn't ir) |
| 19:23.25 | break19 | nice |
| 19:23.40 | break19 | I actually live over in AL, but worked over there.. |
| 19:23.52 | cncfanatics | I live in wevelghem, long live belgium :) |
| 19:23.53 | trashkit | Fullbar or fubar? |
| 19:24.12 | balstor | hmmmm let me guess you go fishing at spanish fort? |
| 19:24.14 | MoonWitch | HOORAH for belgium .. I live in Diest. |
| 19:24.20 | cncfanatics | trashkit, flexbar |
| 19:24.24 | break19 | balstor: nah.. dauphin island |
| 19:24.29 | trashkit | lol ok, i will look into that |
| 19:24.29 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch :o |
| 19:24.32 | trashkit | thanks |
| 19:24.33 | balstor | hey wasn't belgium for sale on ebay a few months ago? |
| 19:24.41 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-91-57.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:24.53 | Amadeo | Funkeh`: Patch downtime extended! |
| 19:25.03 | Funkeh` | Amadeo, lulz |
| 19:25.08 | Funkeh` | whatever for?!? |
| 19:25.08 | Wilbur-o | They had to take it down because apparently postage would have been too much :-( |
| 19:25.11 | balstor | never fished out therer as i kid i used to finish by spanish fort and the tensaw river. |
| 19:25.29 | Amadeo | Funkeh`: because it always happens for patches larger than 10MB :P |
| 19:25.36 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 19:25.40 | Funkeh` | Eu usually have it fine ;p |
| 19:25.47 | Spiffy | lol @ http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ WTF RP Cenarion Circle? |
| 19:25.57 | MoonWitch | ok dumb question.. according to the realmstatus page Cenarion Circle is up, with medium population. Yet I can not even connect to the auth server... how the hell is that working? |
| 19:26.03 | break19 | Funkeh`: because we're the guinea pigs and they learn from their mistakes... |
| 19:26.03 | balstor | i actually new a belgium guy as a kid lived down the toad from me, too mutch money to be living in the middle of the back woods...... we never asked him why he was hiding |
| 19:26.04 | kenlyric | it's not. |
| 19:26.06 | MoonWitch | lol spiffy - yeah wtf |
| 19:26.14 | kenlyric | stop believing the realm status page. |
| 19:26.16 | kenlyric | it lies. |
| 19:26.39 | Amadeo | The server is roleplaying like it's actually up |
| 19:26.49 | kadrahil | hah |
| 19:26.50 | trashkit | lmao |
| 19:26.56 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:27.11 | kenlyric | I approve |
| 19:27.11 | break19 | balstor: I usually went offshore, out to the rigs and stuff.. cant stand that freshwater fishing.. boring as hell. |
| 19:27.21 | balstor | ~seen Saroz |
| 19:27.23 | purl | saroz is currently on #wowace (5d 2h 25m 10s), last said: 'lets see if this works Funkeh`'. |
| 19:27.27 | MoonWitch | earlier torheldrin noted as up too |
| 19:27.37 | kadrahil | famous last words |
| 19:27.50 | break19 | must not have worked.. he never came back.. |
| 19:28.03 | balstor | saroz make sraidframes work while im in a party to ( i hate the party interface) |
| 19:28.40 | MoonWitch | purl Realmstatus page tells lies... |
| 19:28.54 | MoonWitch | gah I forgot how to do it again ... dangit |
| 19:29.15 | Paene | isn't it ~purl |
| 19:29.16 | Paene | ? |
| 19:29.17 | balstor | brerak19 which server do you play in? |
| 19:29.30 | MoonWitch | ~purl Realmstatus page tells lies... |
| 19:29.35 | MoonWitch | nope |
| 19:29.45 | MoonWitch | purl, Realmstatus page tells lies... |
| 19:29.49 | Spiffy | it does indeed lie... I'm authenticated now and there's no Cenarion Circle |
| 19:29.54 | Paene | !purl? |
| 19:29.58 | Antiarc | Heh, Spiffy, you're on CC? |
| 19:30.03 | Spiffy | no |
| 19:30.06 | balstor | look i got coffee with 4 shots of baileys in it, I can wait on wow :) |
| 19:30.16 | Spiffy | but i would be if it was the only server up |
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| 19:30.17 | cncfanatics | purl, Realmstatus is a lie |
| 19:30.17 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 19:30.22 | cncfanatics | ~Realmstatus |
| 19:30.22 | purl | [realmstatus] a lie |
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| 19:30.27 | MoonWitch | wtf? |
| 19:30.33 | NightHawkTheSane | The Cake is a lie? |
| 19:30.35 | xyu` | realm status has always been shit |
| 19:30.37 | MoonWitch | I typed that and it didn't accept it |
| 19:30.38 | xyu` | that whole page |
| 19:30.55 | Paene | I like cake |
| 19:30.58 | Aeyan | I believe in the Cake. |
| 19:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: erm, no, you typed something different? |
| 19:31.08 | cturner | the cake is a lie |
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| 19:31.12 | MoonWitch | 04[20:29] MoonWitch: 01purl, Realmstatus page tells lies... |
| 19:31.16 | Aeyan | I believe in the cake! |
| 19:31.24 | Paene | take off the ...'s? |
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| 19:31.32 | kd3 | the cake is delicious and moist |
| 19:31.37 | NightHawkTheSane | moonsorrow: now, notice the subtle differences in what you said, and what cncfanatics said |
| 19:31.42 | balstor | break19 which server do you play in? |
| 19:31.43 | kenlyric | you didn't use a comma |
| 19:31.47 | *** part/#wowace Hexx (n=ldb10671@c-71-59-250-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 19:31.50 | break19 | tanaris |
| 19:31.56 | MoonWitch | purl, the realmstatus page tells lies. |
| 19:32.07 | MoonWitch | break19 I play there too :) |
| 19:32.12 | Paene | purl, Realmstatus is a lie |
| 19:32.13 | purl | Paene: i already had it that way |
| 19:32.19 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.20 | purl | it has been said that realmstatus is a lie |
| 19:32.24 | hypetech | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjGfgV7rJHI |
| 19:32.25 | break19 | MoonWitch: im an ally.. u? |
| 19:32.26 | cncfanatics | its just fine |
| 19:32.32 | MoonWitch | purl, the realmstatus page tells lies |
| 19:32.33 | kenlyric | is is is is is is is is is |
| 19:32.37 | MoonWitch | wtf!!!!!!! |
| 19:32.39 | kenlyric | slow cats are slow |
| 19:32.40 | Paene | Moond |
| 19:32.45 | Aeyan | ^ Don't watch that if you plan to play Portal at some point |
| 19:32.47 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 19:32.47 | balstor | cnc plays on CC and role plays a femal gnome with pink pig tails........ |
| 19:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | purl, no Relmstatus is a lie, and moonwitch can't figure out purl. |
| 19:32.49 | purl | NightHawkTheSane: okay |
| 19:32.49 | kenlyric | ISISISISISISISISISISISIS |
| 19:32.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ~realmstatus |
| 19:32.54 | purl | well, realmstatus is a lie |
| 19:33.01 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, apparently neither can i. |
| 19:33.04 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 19:33.06 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 19:33.07 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955F86C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:33.09 | cncfanatics | balstor, wtf ? |
| 19:33.11 | hypetech | ~realmstatus |
| 19:33.12 | purl | hmm... realmstatus is a lie |
| 19:33.13 | cncfanatics | I'm HORDE |
| 19:33.13 | NightHawkTheSane | purl, no Relmstatus is a lie and moonwitch can't figure out purl. |
| 19:33.14 | purl | NightHawkTheSane: okay |
| 19:33.15 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:33.19 | MoonWitch | he did respond to you |
| 19:33.22 | cncfanatics | ~relmstatus |
| 19:33.23 | purl | rumour has it, relmstatus is a lie and moonwitch can't figure out purl. |
| 19:33.27 | NightHawkTheSane | there we go. |
| 19:33.27 | cncfanatics | l2spell tbh |
| 19:33.32 | hypetech | hahaha |
| 19:33.32 | LetheKai | The MT of my previous guild was a female Gnome with pink pigtails. |
| 19:33.36 | Paene | purl, realmstatus is the truth |
| 19:33.37 | purl | ...but realmstatus is already something else... |
| 19:33.38 | kenlyric | epic fial. |
| 19:33.39 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i totally suck |
| 19:33.40 | Paene | lol |
| 19:33.45 | kenlyric | I think we all suck. |
| 19:33.53 | kenlyric | I blame bot. |
| 19:33.59 | kenlyric | why is that audio overbass? |
| 19:34.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i am made of so much epic fail today (but not as much as moonwitch, apparently :P ) i'm just going to go back to work. |
| 19:34.03 | MoonWitch | purl |
| 19:34.10 | xerawx | i'm saving portal for the next epic realm downtime snafu.. which might be today |
| 19:34.10 | kenlyric | and why doesn't it show the credits? |
| 19:34.13 | kenlyric | wtf is the point? |
| 19:34.15 | cncfanatics | purl, NightHawkTheSane is made out of epic fail |
| 19:34.16 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 19:34.21 | cncfanatics | ~NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:34.22 | purl | hmm... nighthawkthesane is made out of epic fail |
| 19:34.24 | break19 | MoonWitch: you play ally or hordie on Tanaris? |
| 19:34.26 | cncfanatics | win |
| 19:34.27 | Firelemming | hi all, im trying to work with candybars can somebody please look at this piece of code, WoW gives a error on line 12 saying: attemp to index local 'self' (a nil value) what i dont understand why because above it works. here is the link: http://ace.pastey.net/77103 |
| 19:34.28 | MoonWitch | allies |
| 19:34.28 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: <3 |
| 19:34.30 | MoonWitch | and horde too |
| 19:34.43 | break19 | oh.. nice |
| 19:34.43 | MoonWitch | but my main is ally |
| 19:34.49 | break19 | what guild? |
| 19:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: because i'm feeling generous, the trick is saying "[term] IS [something]", is being a very key word. |
| 19:35.14 | cncfanatics | purl, MoonWitch fails |
| 19:35.18 | CIA-4 | 03bashui * r54525 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS.lua CatDPSTest.lua CatPoints.lua): |
| 19:35.18 | CIA-4 | CatPoints: |
| 19:35.18 | CIA-4 | - Unchecked Code |
| 19:35.18 | CIA-4 | - Support for more set bonuses |
| 19:35.21 | cncfanatics | *hint* it doesn't work |
| 19:35.21 | balstor | you never defined the variable self |
| 19:35.29 | cncfanatics | purl, MoonWitch is made out of 100% pure fail |
| 19:35.30 | purl | ...but moonwitch is already something else... |
| 19:35.35 | cncfanatics | ~MoonWitch |
| 19:35.35 | purl | [moonwitch] a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. |
| 19:35.37 | Paene | Firelemming: change self to candybartext |
| 19:35.41 | Paene | er |
| 19:35.45 | Paene | candybartest |
| 19:35.46 | cncfanatics | purl, MoonWitch is also made out of 100% pure fail |
| 19:35.47 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 19:35.51 | cncfanatics | ~MoonWitch |
| 19:35.52 | purl | [moonwitch] a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. made out of 100% pure fail |
| 19:35.53 | balstor | local self = candybartest ( in the global namespace) |
| 19:36.10 | MoonWitch | purl, MoonWitch is non-existing |
| 19:36.11 | purl | ...but moonwitch is already something else... |
| 19:36.14 | LetheKai | Wow, they changed Cheat Death from bad to really freaking good all in one go. |
| 19:36.28 | Firelemming | hmm ok let me try, ty for the responses |
| 19:36.41 | Ozguli | made me think if cheat death would be good? |
| 19:36.55 | LetheKai | Hmm? |
| 19:36.59 | Ozguli | err |
| 19:37.03 | Ozguli | deep sub* |
| 19:37.07 | trashkit | will we get to redo our talent trees for free? |
| 19:37.14 | LetheKai | No Trash. =( |
| 19:37.15 | Kody- | no |
| 19:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: and if you want to change a keyword completely, you preface it by saying "no", so "purl, no [term] is [something else entirely]" |
| 19:37.20 | trashkit | bah |
| 19:37.27 | LetheKai | Deep subtlety does sound good as long as you don't raid. |
| 19:37.29 | [Ammo] | Firelemming: change the line to: self:SetCandyBarCompletion("Food_Banana", self.BananaFinished, self ) |
| 19:37.29 | Ozguli | I saw some sub rogue in arena today lol |
| 19:37.36 | [Ammo] | that will work a lot better |
| 19:37.37 | [Ammo] | iirc |
| 19:37.40 | Toadkiller | function candybartest:BananaFinished() |
| 19:37.40 | Toadkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.46 | cncfanatics | purl, no, MoonWitch is epic failure |
| 19:37.47 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 19:37.49 | Ozguli | he just sapped my warrior mate, vanished, shadowstepped, sapped again and died 5 seconds later |
| 19:37.57 | [Ammo] | the completion func can accept vars |
| 19:37.57 | LetheKai | lol |
| 19:38.04 | [Ammo] | so just passs self |
| 19:38.10 | Toadkiller | ah nice |
| 19:38.11 | MoonWitch | purl, no moonwitch is devoid of any talent |
| 19:38.11 | purl | okay, MoonWitch |
| 19:38.11 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: hemo trispecs will be pretty good raiding builds now, deep subtlty might not be -too- bad, but it probably loses a lot from missing stuff in either ass or combat. |
| 19:38.36 | kadrahil | NightHawkTheSane: huhuhuhuhuh you said 'ass' |
| 19:38.45 | LetheKai | But Cheat Death is 100% now, and then reduces dmg by 90% for 3 seconds after, once per minute! So boys and girls, don't use that big nuke to finish the rogue off, cuz he ain't goin' nowhere. |
| 19:38.50 | MoonWitch | female* |
| 19:39.02 | Ozguli | lol |
| 19:39.05 | LetheKai | NightHawk: Yes, missing too much to be good DPS. |
| 19:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: ah, sorry. i just assume everyone on the internet is male unless told otherwise. |
| 19:39.16 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:39.19 | MoonWitch | well |
| 19:39.26 | MoonWitch | if you're told, you can still wonder at times |
| 19:39.27 | MoonWitch | ;) |
| 19:39.35 | |Stan| | -.- |
| 19:39.36 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i never said i always believed when told ;) |
| 19:39.37 | Keias | You're Chris Hansen |
| 19:39.39 | |Stan| | vashj 3% wipe |
| 19:39.42 | Toadkiller | NightHawkTheSane: THats not true, except where you hang out ;-p |
| 19:39.43 | MoonWitch | especially "women" who say they are lesbian |
| 19:39.43 | xyu` | we do what we must because we can! |
| 19:39.44 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:39.44 | cncfanatics | I assume everyone has no genus till I'm told what one they have :p |
| 19:39.45 | Antiarc | I really don't see any reason to go deep sub :/ |
| 19:39.45 | Keias | I know it |
| 19:39.52 | Antiarc | Though I am going trispec hemo as a raider |
| 19:39.53 | kadrahil | |Stan|: rough |
| 19:40.12 | LetheKai | lol Moon |
| 19:40.26 | Firelemming | ok now i dont get a error anymore but the new next one isnt made, i posted a new one http://ace.pastey.net/77104 does it go to the function at all now? i suspect not |
| 19:40.34 | LetheKai | Don't you love that? Though there's still a chance if they are teen, lots of teen girls act bi for the attention. |
| 19:40.47 | Keias | MoonWitch, if you were a female you'd know those "lesbians" are really just teens starving for attention. |
| 19:41.05 | MoonWitch | actually, I am bisexual lol and female |
| 19:41.07 | LetheKai | lol Keias, nice thought. |
| 19:41.23 | Keias | It's true |
| 19:41.30 | LetheKai | Didja see what I said? =) |
| 19:41.33 | MoonWitch | most proclaimed "lesbian mature females of 20" are 40 yr old pervy guys looking for cybersex |
| 19:41.54 | Keias | I'll have to keep that in mind, in another 15 years |
| 19:41.56 | Spiffy | i dont think ive met a girl who wasn't pseudo-bisexual in high school |
| 19:41.58 | Keias | Get me some free cyb0rs |
| 19:41.58 | MoonWitch | OR underage boys... |
| 19:42.11 | Spiffy | then again i guess it hasnt changed very much in college either |
| 19:42.18 | xerawx | im lolsexual and female and quad breasted |
| 19:42.21 | MoonWitch | I've met both those examples lol |
| 19:42.25 | Keias | Quad breasted |
| 19:42.29 | LetheKai | Well, very rarely have I entertained the notion. I'm pretty much straight. |
| 19:42.34 | Keias | Now that's impressive |
| 19:42.39 | NightHawkTheSane | xerawx: quad-breasted whore of eroticon 6? |
| 19:42.50 | xerawx | quite |
| 19:42.58 | NightHawkTheSane | (well, okay, it was actually triple-breasted, but whatever) |
| 19:43.19 | *** join/#wowace tinyboom (n=Flexom@55.84-49-88.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:43.31 | xerawx | yeah, close enough |
| 19:43.39 | MoonWitch | wait.. who here is which genus |
| 19:43.40 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:43.54 | Antiarc | "When you take damage and have a full screen UI up, the edges of the screen will flash red so you know you are under attack." |
| 19:43.57 | Antiarc | Uhhhh. |
| 19:43.57 | cncfanatics | <-- 18 yeards old male |
| 19:43.59 | *** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@d019036.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 19:44.11 | Chompers | 14/f/canada |
| 19:44.13 | Chompers | teehee |
| 19:44.13 | Cyrez | The only three women I know IRL that play/played WoW are crazy and bisexual, but maybe that's just a coincidence. |
| 19:44.14 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, that'd be the world map for example if its full screen |
| 19:44.16 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 19:44.20 | Antiarc | Oooooh, okay. |
| 19:44.25 | NightHawkTheSane | 42/n/alpha-centauri. |
| 19:44.25 | LetheKai | lol Cyrez |
| 19:44.33 | MoonWitch | it's no coincidence Cyrez.. |
| 19:44.44 | Silowyi | Antiarc: Yeah, this isn't a ploy by Blizzard to aggrivate all the tanks |
| 19:44.45 | Keias | Yeah, something must be wrong with them |
| 19:44.49 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane, how are those worms on Alpha Centauri? |
| 19:44.50 | Keias | If they're out of the kitchen |
| 19:44.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: tasty. |
| 19:45.06 | break19 | Cyrez: I only know 2 women IRL that play wow.. and I sleep with 1 of em.. and the other is married to my nephew. :p |
| 19:45.17 | Silowyi | our guild has |
| 19:45.18 | Xuerian | Antiarc: So they're finally using the animation that's been in there for ages |
| 19:45.19 | Silowyi | *counts* |
| 19:45.20 | LetheKai | I'm crazy, but not bi. |
| 19:45.23 | *** join/#wowace ie|Stiffe (n=hehe@90-229-238-164-no153.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 19:45.36 | Silowyi | 5 active remale raiders |
| 19:45.38 | Antiarc | Hehe, yeah. But DBM and Omen both use it, too |
| 19:45.39 | Silowyi | and 1 recruit |
| 19:45.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not crazy. I'm sane. my name says so. |
| 19:45.41 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@pD957D0BA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:45.42 | cncfanatics | I know 0 women IRL that play WoW :p not really the kind of person that would hang out with such girls though |
| 19:45.45 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Ayep |
| 19:45.49 | Keias | Just 5? |
| 19:45.57 | Keias | I think my guild has more females than the rest of WoW combined |
| 19:46.00 | Silowyi | keias out of a raid roster of 25 |
| 19:46.03 | Amadeo | I know lots of women who play WOW |
| 19:46.04 | Chompers | is she a priest? |
| 19:46.04 | LetheKai | Nice Silo. The guild I just left has about that, ~5 - 7 active women. |
| 19:46.07 | Antiarc | Hunter |
| 19:46.09 | break19 | Antiarc: as does mine, which is why I get to sleep with her :) |
| 19:46.10 | MoonWitch | in my guild are 2 women, that's it lol |
| 19:46.10 | Silowyi | 20% female raid roster is pretty unusual |
| 19:46.14 | Antiarc | And our main tank is a girl |
| 19:46.18 | Cyrez | I talked to one that was hitting on me. She's not one of the three. |
| 19:46.29 | Xuerian | Dated two that played... Lots of women in my old guild, a couple in my new one, also a best friend who played >.> |
| 19:46.36 | Keias | My guild has around 12 or so, but only about 5 are active raiders :( |
| 19:46.48 | LetheKai | Woot Antiarc! |
| 19:46.50 | MoonWitch | I think my ping is too high to raid |
| 19:47.04 | Xuerian | MoonWitch: Dialup fails =( |
| 19:47.09 | MoonWitch | I don't have dialup |
| 19:47.18 | Keias | Plenty of Aussies on my US server that do it fine with high ping |
| 19:47.20 | MoonWitch | I connect to US servers from Belgium |
| 19:47.23 | NeoTron | we have some solid female raiders in the guild |
| 19:47.28 | break19 | my wife is a druid (also has a 70 hunter) the druid was feral, and hell of a tank for a while, but she got tired of not having a healer worth a shit, so she respecd. :p |
| 19:47.30 | LetheKai | I don't think I'll ever be a MT, but I'm a raid tank. Not a lot of female tanks compared to other classes. |
| 19:47.31 | kenlyric | they have the internet in europe now? |
| 19:47.32 | Antiarc | about 25%-30% of our raiderbase is female |
| 19:47.32 | cncfanatics | why play on US MoonWitch ? |
| 19:47.34 | MoonWitch | mine's usually around 180 to 220 |
| 19:47.39 | NeoTron | but we've had more bad luck with drama whoring amongst female raiders in the past |
| 19:47.58 | MoonWitch | cuz I play DOD in a US clan, and most of my friends are US ;) |
| 19:48.04 | Amadeo | There's a lot of female attention whores in the game...most of them are single :P |
| 19:48.09 | MoonWitch | in short, I have no IRL social liffe |
| 19:48.10 | cncfanatics | meh, reroll Kazzak EU MoonWitch |
| 19:48.17 | LetheKai | Neo: That's common I'm told. Guild on Coilfang almost didn't let me in because I was female. |
| 19:48.20 | break19 | MoonWitch: 180-220 is not bad... hell, average dialup pings are around 250-350 |
| 19:48.21 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, and get a social life :/ its fun :p |
| 19:48.23 | kenlyric | whores don't get any business if you don't pay them. |
| 19:48.29 | MoonWitch | lol cncfanatics I have the EU wow too |
| 19:48.42 | MoonWitch | just not EU BC |
| 19:48.45 | NeoTron | that said our best tank imho is a female. she plays a druid |
| 19:49.01 | LetheKai | cnc: Hey, I just saw a Morogrim movie from a horde guild on your server. =) |
| 19:49.02 | Keias | Females love to play Druids and Hunters for some reason |
| 19:49.03 | kenlyric | that's cause the girls, they don't got the ADD |
| 19:49.10 | Amadeo | Keias: Don't forget Priests |
| 19:49.12 | NeoTron | she does :P |
| 19:49.17 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Good lord. One of the two was one of those... |
| 19:49.17 | cncfanatics | LetheKai, could be :p I'm not even 70 so I dunno guilds rly |
| 19:49.25 | break19 | NeoTron: somethin about females playin druid tanks makes me hot.. careful.. my wife might get hurt if ya keep it up. |
| 19:49.26 | Keias | And always holy priests! |
| 19:49.28 | NeoTron | she's also fanatically keeping a spreadsheet with every piece of remotely usable feral druid items |
| 19:49.30 | Amadeo | Xuerian: It's dangerous to date one of those! |
| 19:49.31 | LetheKai | lol I've had a raiding Druid, Shaman, Priest, and Paladin. >.< |
| 19:49.32 | Keias | Who refuse to play Shadow |
| 19:49.44 | Xuerian | Amadeo: No shit. I didn't have a moment of peace in half a year |
| 19:49.48 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:49.52 | Cryect | Hmmm I know a couple girls who prefer shadow to holy but /shrug |
| 19:49.55 | NeoTron | and if she picks up a new item she calcultes the best way to organize her gems and often regems a lot |
| 19:50.04 | MoonWitch | kazzak is pvp and full |
| 19:50.10 | kenlyric | wait, so you mean she's a good player. |
| 19:50.11 | break19 | my wife also has a mage, a warrior (she LOVES her fury war) and a shadow priest |
| 19:50.15 | MoonWitch | I prefer to level up in pve, then trans to pvp or stay pve |
| 19:50.16 | kenlyric | but you already said that :) |
| 19:50.35 | cncfanatics | you realize u can't transfer to a pvp server from a pve right ? |
| 19:50.41 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Why bother with that? This is why we have emerald's list: http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/ |
| 19:51.03 | MoonWitch | didn't know, never transferred |
| 19:51.03 | kenlyric | my wife is like "why are you still playing that game" and i'm like "why are you still playing poker" and then we move on. |
| 19:51.03 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:51.04 | NeoTron | because "lists" aren't complete |
| 19:51.04 | Keias | STV just wouldn't 'be the same, if i was safe the entire time. |
| 19:51.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: damn, nice link |
| 19:51.30 | LetheKai | Damn, a list... I'm leveling up my druid boomkin this time - then going resto - or I'd totally use that. >.< |
| 19:51.33 | NeoTron | she's beyond using a list of items |
| 19:51.36 | Xuerian | NeoTron: fair enough, it doesn't have the ZA items yet |
| 19:51.50 | NeoTron | as I said, she often regems half her items after picking up a new piece to get the best benefit out of it |
| 19:51.56 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Have you looked at it yet? |
| 19:52.12 | kenlyric | re: boomkin, it's a shame about the spell damage leather gear. |
| 19:52.15 | NeoTron | she also has resistance sets and special purpose sets like a dps/tank set for leotheras (dps gear, but uncrittable) |
| 19:52.20 | LetheKai | Neo: That's so anal and expensive, no way I could do that, hehe. |
| 19:52.22 | Arrowmaster | are the wow forums broken or something? |
| 19:52.32 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.35 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Sounds pretty flooded in gold =X |
| 19:52.54 | NeoTron | let me put it this way - she doesn't have an epic flying mount |
| 19:53.02 | LetheKai | lol |
| 19:53.12 | |Stan| | DOWN |
| 19:53.12 | Xuerian | [And probably could've had one by now] |
| 19:53.15 | |Stan| | Vasjh down |
| 19:53.16 | |Stan| | :D |
| 19:53.16 | NeoTron | easily |
| 19:53.19 | break19 | werll hell, neither do I |
| 19:53.20 | NeoTron | Grats |
| 19:53.20 | LetheKai | I don't think I could ever go back... need epic + crusader... |
| 19:53.24 | LetheKai | Grats Stan! |
| 19:53.25 | |Stan| | thx :p |
| 19:53.29 | cncfanatics | bah |
| 19:53.34 | cncfanatics | I wanted vashj to wipe the raid |
| 19:53.38 | NeoTron | I am working, slowly, on getting an epic for my pally so I have a fast miner |
| 19:53.45 | balstor | hmmm i think i'm specing back to sword spec tonight and have fun |
| 19:53.48 | NeoTron | but alas, I am also working on the darkmoon blessing deck |
| 19:53.53 | Xuerian | Working on getting mine at the moment =| |
| 19:53.55 | kenlyric | it's alright, just never mount up. |
| 19:54.17 | balstor | i spent my mount money on dual blinkstrikes for fun :) |
| 19:54.21 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, it's a nice list. If your guild is into ZA, it's obviously going to be lacking at the moment, and with any gear added in 2.3, but it's still a very comprehensive list |
| 19:54.25 | NeoTron | anyhow, list of items is great but you really do need to look at the whole thing combined to get the full picture |
| 19:54.27 | LetheKai | Working on the Furies deck myself. >.< |
| 19:54.33 | MoonWitch | I have a problem |
| 19:54.35 | MoonWitch | Note: Please ensure that both your new e-mail address and old e-mail address are currently accessible to you before you submit this form. You will need access to your old e-mail address to confirm the change, after which all future e-mails regarding this account will be sent to the new address entered below. |
| 19:54.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: well, for my druid alt that i'm leveling up, it'll be very helpful. :) |
| 19:54.41 | MoonWitch | my old email isn't accesible |
| 19:54.42 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:54.56 | Keias | To change your WoW account contact info? |
| 19:54.58 | kenlyric | you're fucked |
| 19:55.05 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 19:55.05 | kenlyric | or, call them on the phone. |
| 19:55.05 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: That's for certain. If your main has money, you can go for the crafted blues/epics for when you get there |
| 19:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 19:55.19 | Keias | Yeah, you gotta call them |
| 19:55.20 | kenlyric | nice that they even let you change your email address online now |
| 19:55.21 | NeoTron | I'm about to get my BT haste bracers made |
| 19:55.22 | kenlyric | they didn't use to. |
| 19:55.23 | Xuerian | Doesn't it just wait a week if you can't access the email? |
| 19:55.24 | MoonWitch | maybe I'll get a game card and play on EU again for a bit then.. |
| 19:55.28 | NeoTron | did manage to farm some HoD before the nerf |
| 19:55.36 | Keias | Sometimes they're assholes and make you fax in a photo ID |
| 19:55.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: will probably share it with some guild druids, we |
| 19:55.49 | Keias | I had that problem too, so I just got a new account at BC |
| 19:55.55 | MoonWitch | yeah I apparently gotta call them, but woot it's a free number in BE |
| 19:56.00 | abyx | some servers are going up.. better go check and see if yours is up! |
| 19:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | we're about at kara level right now |
| 19:56.17 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: It certainly helps if they're not sure what to work for :) |
| 19:56.23 | kenlyric | abyx: lies! |
| 19:56.30 | LetheKai | Thanks abyx. =) |
| 19:56.31 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* I know some of them arn't exactly hardcore theorycrafters, so. :) |
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| 19:56.42 | Xuerian | abyx: Realmstatus has reported some of them up for hours |
| 19:56.44 | _rane | anyone care to suggest an action bar addon? |
| 19:56.47 | Xuerian | Yet they aren't in the in-game realm-list |
| 19:56.53 | Xuerian | _rane: Bongos, Bartender |
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| 19:56.53 | kenlyric | still 1/222 |
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| 19:57.00 | kenlyric | and the 1 is a lie |
| 19:57.06 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom is a lie. |
| 19:57.06 | FireAllianceNX | cake... |
| 19:57.08 | cncfanatics | _rane, FlexBar2 :) |
| 19:57.12 | _rane | Xuerian: i'm using Bongos atm |
| 19:57.12 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, don't forget FB :( |
| 19:57.14 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Tell them all to get RatingsBuster, and enable the relevant comparisons. It's a great help, and doesn't require all that much knowledge |
| 19:57.29 | LetheKai | I have that! |
| 19:57.32 | LetheKai | Very helpful. |
| 19:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: true enough. |
| 19:57.36 | Xuerian | Ah yes, and if you want Total Control (r), use FuBar... I mean, flexbar |
| 19:57.41 | kenlyric | RB doesn't show spirit on priest gear summary. Fuck RB and its retarded coder! |
| 19:57.46 | Chompers | yay |
| 19:57.46 | Zhinjio | anyone else use irssi? |
| 19:57.49 | kenlyric | I keed, I keed! |
| 19:57.50 | Chompers | vashj time! |
| 19:57.50 | LetheKai | On figuring out exactly how much dodge/block/parry you get from some tank upgrade or other. |
| 19:57.52 | _rane | hmm, maybe i should give flexbar2 a try |
| 19:57.54 | _rane | Zhinjio: i do |
| 19:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: .... erm, did you enable spirit in the config? |
| 19:58.04 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Sorry :p. I used to use it, but I don't use bars much at all anymore -- It's all hotkeys or clique |
| 19:58.05 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 19:58.09 | kenlyric | I meant by default! |
| 19:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | pfeh, defaults are for morons |
| 19:58.26 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, fair enough :p |
| 19:58.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: you crazy bastard. |
| 19:58.40 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Try playing a warlock. |
| 19:58.40 | Xuerian | With no actionbars. |
| 19:58.41 | MoonWitch | afk |
| 19:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: you crazy, insane, masochistic bastard. :P |
| 19:58.58 | kenlyric | it's defaulted for shadow priests. That's an abomination. |
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| 19:59.07 | Xuerian | Curse of ... curse of... .... ctrl.. shift.... alt... mouse4??? |
| 19:59.35 | kenlyric | that used to frighten me until I rebound caps lock. |
| 19:59.45 | Xuerian | It's not the ctrl-shift-alts that get you, it's the ctrl-alts or shift-alts >.o |
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| 20:00.18 | kebinusan | huzzah for extended maint |
| 20:00.25 | Chompers | horay, im first to the vashj bridge |
| 20:00.30 | cncfanatics | I don't play any class without actionbars tbh :p |
| 20:00.31 | Chompers | im totally gonna be the one to click it |
| 20:00.33 | CWW256 | Anyone familiar with Natur EnemyCastBar and know of a suitable Ace replacment for them? |
| 20:00.45 | Xuerian | CWW256: Chronometer |
| 20:00.48 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: same, although I still try to bind as much as I can. |
| 20:00.54 | CWW256 | humm |
| 20:01.05 | Xuerian | CWW256: Though I have yet to remember which one gives me party cc bars like I miss all the time from natur |
| 20:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I use action bars for a things that don't actually involve clicking buttons |
| 20:01.07 | balstor | cnc - nostrama n52 pad FTW |
| 20:01.08 | Health | Chronometer doesn't ahve enemy? does it? |
| 20:01.10 | xerawx | gogo ctrl-shift-alt-mwheel up |
| 20:01.15 | KarlThePagan | chronometer is old, but it has some things that were never replaced by Quartz |
| 20:01.18 | Xuerian | "Banish up.. NOW! ... no..... waaait... NOW!" |
| 20:01.19 | kenlyric | I bind everrything I can and still show it on my actionbars. |
| 20:01.19 | Aeyan | Chronometer, SorrenTimers, ClassTimers, Quartz |
| 20:01.26 | kenlyric | I change it far too much for anything else. |
| 20:01.37 | KarlThePagan | chronometer does have target buff timers |
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| 20:01.48 | Aeyan | Chronometer and Sorren have multi-mob timers, class and quartz use API |
| 20:01.56 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane: everything is bound ofc |
| 20:02.09 | LetheKai | I use ClassTimers + Quartz. |
| 20:02.15 | Aeyan | Me too |
| 20:02.18 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: yeah. well. I don't bind -everything-, but most everything |
| 20:02.19 | CWW256 | Well Natur EnemyCastBar have2 things I really like, if a hostile starts casting anywhere in your general earea you get a casting bar pop up w/o targeting them or anything, and for respawn timers in endgame raids. |
| 20:02.20 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54526 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:02.20 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:02.20 | CIA-4 | -Updated food/water buttons for Conjure Manna Biscuits |
| 20:02.24 | Xuerian | xerawx: haha, even I don't bind mousewheel - But I have bound almost all combinations of ctrl/shift/alt mouse1/2/3 |
| 20:02.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I keep some things like quest items, random consumables, etc, on bars just for easy access |
| 20:02.37 | kenlyric | mousewheel is for SSR :) |
| 20:02.41 | Xuerian | CWW256: Even though it isn't ace, Natur is still a nice mod |
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| 20:02.47 | Aeyan | For the casting bar thing, you can use Antagonist |
| 20:02.47 | balstor | mousewheel - bound to talk on vent |
| 20:02.48 | Xuerian | Don't let that deter you from using it |
| 20:02.50 | xerawx | i don't currently have mwheel bound but i actually found it nice on my warlock |
| 20:03.06 | Aeyan | For respawn timers, I dunno. |
| 20:03.10 | CWW256 | Xeurian, very true, i just love having as many mods unified under ace as possible. |
| 20:03.12 | Xuerian | xerawx, balstor: Mouse with two extra buttons :p |
| 20:03.15 | xerawx | modifier+up for drain / funnel, down for tap, pact |
| 20:03.25 | xerawx | something like that |
| 20:03.31 | kenlyric | but what about SSR! how do you keep underwater breathing up!? |
| 20:03.34 | cncfanatics | CWW256, why ? |
| 20:03.35 | Paene | WTB REALMS |
| 20:03.36 | LetheKai | I wish I didn't have any non-Ace mods, WAU is sooooo convenient... |
| 20:03.40 | Xuerian | CWW256: So do I, but there are no good replacements for some things. yatlas, clique, atlas (carto sucks in instances. Sucks. Sucks bad) |
| 20:03.46 | balstor | button #4 is bound to stance change left / button #5 is bound to stance change right |
| 20:03.53 | LetheKai | Clique and Atlas I have too. |
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| 20:04.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: you use atlas and cart both then? |
| 20:04.08 | Aeyan | Well, you could argue that reusing code is good =) |
| 20:04.10 | CWW256 | cnc: I just like the centralized config, its just a personal preferance thats all |
| 20:04.12 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, actually |
| 20:04.12 | LetheKai | Clique's just for buffs and my taunt though, don't use it to its full potential. |
| 20:04.13 | Aeyan | Even if minimal |
| 20:04.14 | balstor | cww256 use NECB it's good code |
| 20:04.24 | kebinusan | I just use Click2Cast |
| 20:04.25 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: And Locationfu plays nicely with both, ironically |
| 20:04.25 | NightHawkTheSane | LetheKai: pfft, click healing is for the win. :P |
| 20:04.25 | Arrowmaster | balstor: since when? |
| 20:04.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: interesting. |
| 20:04.41 | kenlyric | omniCC and auctioneer are mine. |
| 20:04.46 | Xuerian | It's ctrl-click for atlas outside instances, and reversed in instances |
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| 20:04.50 | Aeyan | Clique healing is the only way to fly |
| 20:04.51 | balstor | are you saying necb isn't good? |
| 20:04.51 | NightHawkTheSane | about the only reason i really like cart these days is for the _herb/_mining |
| 20:04.52 | Xuerian | Ah yes, and OmniCC.. and Itemrack |
| 20:04.58 | cryogen_ | i wish ckknight would speak again, his last quote hilighting me is getting annoying |
| 20:05.15 | Paene | ~seen ckknight |
| 20:05.19 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 9h 12m 32s ago, saying: 'cryogen, rawr'. |
| 20:05.19 | Xuerian | And Examiner >.o.. |
| 20:05.21 | Aeyan | NECB is fine - it just does a lot. |
| 20:05.21 | cncfanatics | :o, cryogen, been a while :p |
| 20:05.24 | kenlyric | I was just fine with cooldowncount until it broke on pets. |
| 20:05.28 | Aeyan | Some people want a smaller mod |
| 20:05.31 | kebinusan | My nonace'd list, omnicc, ludwig, and msbt |
| 20:05.32 | cncfanatics | log in more on IRC :p |
| 20:05.35 | NightHawkTheSane | cryogen: lol |
| 20:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i use a fair bit of non-ace stuff... hmm |
| 20:06.21 | Xuerian | Using all-ace is overrated in this channel =\ |
| 20:06.23 | FireAllianceNX | I wish ItemRack 2 was updated |
| 20:06.26 | FireAllianceNX | that's Ace'd |
| 20:06.37 | Aeyan | I love my itemrack |
| 20:06.42 | xyu` | sweet, my bro just picked up super mario galaxy, something to do while servers come up >< |
| 20:06.47 | kenlyric | I'm more interested in default profiles than I am in WAU, though that's a nice bonus. |
| 20:06.48 | Aeyan | Don't touch it =P |
| 20:06.48 | Xuerian | If you're a druid, you love it. There is no choice |
| 20:07.00 | LetheKai | Oh man, I forgot I have itemrack. Useless leveling up cuz you change gear 20 times a day... I need to set it up now. |
| 20:07.09 | kenlyric | Xuerian: CG doesn't do druid stances? |
| 20:07.17 | Arrowmaster | cryogen: so change your nick to his, say "ckk's last quote hilighting me is getting annoying" or something then switch back |
| 20:07.19 | Aeyan | It does |
| 20:07.22 | Aeyan | I just prefer itemrack |
| 20:07.23 | Arcaia | YAY patch day = new UI! |
| 20:07.24 | Xuerian | kenlyric: CG is nice and all, but itemrack is liquid win |
| 20:07.25 | Arcaia | WOOOOOHHHHHHHH |
| 20:07.32 | xyu` | i prefer outfitter |
| 20:07.33 | LetheKai | lol Arcaia |
| 20:07.38 | FireAllianceNX | Aeyan: ItemRack2 is sorta better, but no events :( |
| 20:07.44 | kenlyric | I miss stat set creation in outfitter. |
| 20:07.46 | xyu` | I like the options of auto creating gear |
| 20:07.49 | Aeyan | Yeah, my UI is getting a bit dusty |
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| 20:07.53 | Aeyan | It's pretty, but... |
| 20:07.57 | Xuerian | I should switch to my minimal ui |
| 20:07.58 | kenlyric | gogospirit set |
| 20:07.59 | NightHawkTheSane | auctioneer, autorack, bongos, clique, earth shield tracker, gemcount, hattrick, itemrack, lightheaded, ludwig, msbt, passloot, perfectraid, pawn, a handful of other tekkub mods... |
| 20:08.04 | Aeyan | FireAllianceNX, true. |
| 20:08.17 | LetheKai | Oh right, Auctioneer too. *sigh* |
| 20:08.20 | _rane | is configuring flexbar2 only possible through the chat? |
| 20:08.40 | FireAllianceNX | my screen is too small to use PerfectRaid lol |
| 20:08.40 | balstor | I want someone to go fix SelectionRing /cry /cry |
| 20:08.45 | kenlyric | speaking of default profile, has autobar been fixed? |
| 20:08.58 | Arcaia | LetheKai : and im not referencing broken addons - I'm referencing Arcaia tradition! |
| 20:08.59 | cncfanatics | _rane, atm yea |
| 20:08.59 | Antiarc | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_fe_st/odd_shotgun_lug_nut;_ylt=AjnMdu4zWc7Um9hPtUTkA1HtiBIF <-- Bud Light salutes you, Real Men of Genuis |
| 20:09.03 | kenlyric | where it doesn't completely die when you switch to the default profile |
| 20:09.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Actually, i don't really use praid anymore, i've switched to using grid exclusivly for raid frames |
| 20:09.07 | balstor | _rane yes the UI has been pushed off to 2012 |
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| 20:09.15 | cncfanatics | hehe balstor |
| 20:09.19 | cncfanatics | 200012 tbh |
| 20:09.29 | FireAllianceNX | I spent a whole night fixing the raid frames for use with Pitbull |
| 20:09.31 | LetheKai | Arcaia: I'm WAY too anal retentive to make a fresh one each patch, I'd go insane. Takes me 2+ days to set one up. |
| 20:09.34 | Xuerian | Atlas, Bongos, Clique, Clique, Chatr, Devtools, Doublewide, Lightheaded, Hattrick (that's not ace?), Omnicc, Praid, Examiner, Itemrack, Yatlas, Tinypad o.0 |
| 20:09.37 | FireAllianceNX | I don't think I'm gonna switch out again. |
| 20:09.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: hahaha |
| 20:09.50 | Tuller | you people and your pinging of me |
| 20:09.56 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Haha, that was win |
| 20:10.00 | cncfanatics | Tuller |
| 20:10.00 | cncfanatics | Tuller |
| 20:10.00 | Xuerian | Tuller: It's because we love you |
| 20:10.01 | cncfanatics | Tuller |
| 20:10.10 | Xuerian | Because tuller is awesome |
| 20:10.12 | Xuerian | And so is itemrack |
| 20:10.13 | Aeyan | Have your mods highlighted, Tuller? |
| 20:10.13 | Arcaia | LESS SPAM! |
| 20:10.14 | Xuerian | and omnicc |
| 20:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: its because you're so awesome |
| 20:10.17 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:10.19 | Xuerian | and itemrack2 |
| 20:10.23 | LetheKai | Oh yes, OmniCC too. |
| 20:10.27 | NightHawkTheSane | oh yeah, omnicc. |
| 20:10.34 | cncfanatics | FlexBar is more awesome :( |
| 20:10.39 | Arcaia | LetheKai : It takes me about 3 hours - I'm just quick ;P |
| 20:10.43 | Tuller | bah |
| 20:10.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: i was going to tell you something, about one of your mods, but fucked if i can remember it now. |
| 20:11.02 | Xuerian | He walked into that one XD |
| 20:11.13 | Arcaia | most awesome addon = Align! |
| 20:11.16 | cncfanatics | Tuller |
| 20:11.24 | LetheKai | Arcaia: Practice makes perfect? =o |
| 20:11.25 | Tuller | ? |
| 20:11.27 | Aeyan | Arcaia, quite. |
| 20:11.32 | Aeyan | A blessing to UI building, hehe |
| 20:11.34 | LetheKai | Arcaia: lol I just got that! Amadeo told me 'bout it, PERFECT for me. |
| 20:11.52 | Xuerian | Align? Whassat |
| 20:11.55 | Amadeo | :D |
| 20:12.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: a tool for the anal-retentive. |
| 20:12.05 | Aeyan | Especially since all my UIs are squared off lately |
| 20:12.06 | LetheKai | Hahah. |
| 20:12.09 | Aeyan | Must be a phase |
| 20:12.12 | JoshBorke | NightHawkTheSane: have you tried out SnapToGrid? |
| 20:12.14 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Ohhh, all those people who edit UIs per pixel |
| 20:12.23 | Aeyan | Oh yes |
| 20:12.24 | LetheKai | I was telling him, I used to use a ruler and tape to set up my UI, tape all along the edge of my monitor. |
| 20:12.24 | Xuerian | Guess what |
| 20:12.26 | Aeyan | It must be perfect |
| 20:12.28 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: no, but i've stopped caring about pixel-perfect alignments ;) |
| 20:12.31 | Xuerian | my chat frame is 3px off the top of my uf |
| 20:12.34 | Xuerian | It's nto a straight line |
| 20:12.36 | Xuerian | PONDER THAT |
| 20:12.39 | LetheKai | You can TELL if it's not lined up, it looks messed up. |
| 20:12.46 | kenlyric | I change my UI at least once a day. that's why all my icons are on fubar. |
| 20:13.09 | xyu` | i constantly strive for a minimilistic view yet as functional as possible |
| 20:13.12 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: why is your chat frame above your UF? that's bizarre :-P |
| 20:13.12 | Zhinjio | I'm thinking about doing another version of my UI. |
| 20:13.16 | kenlyric | and why all my abilities are on bars, even though four of them are keybound. |
| 20:13.21 | xyu` | if there's something i can cut out and keep the functionality, i will do it |
| 20:13.33 | Zhinjio | I want to have more bars that enable/disable with various events, incombat, outofcombat, etc. |
| 20:13.41 | Zhinjio | bars/textures |
| 20:13.49 | xyu` | flexbar was good at that imo |
| 20:13.52 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: I have my UF in bottom-center ontop dual half-width fubars and then a single actionbar. My chat is to the left, and the top line of my chat box is 3/4 px higher than the top of my uf :p |
| 20:13.53 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu`: same, i just really like a lot of functionality, so i tend to get some cruft that goes with it . >< |
| 20:14.11 | xyu` | yeah NightHawkTheSane: i sometimes force myself to cut things, when i really want them :/ |
| 20:14.17 | FireAllianceNX | hmm my chat is above my UF too lol |
| 20:14.21 | Aeyan | I think most people like minimalism. It's just the degree of info that people still want that seperates 'cluttered' from 'minimal'. |
| 20:14.24 | xyu` | such as OmenFu |
| 20:14.27 | Xuerian | xyu`: It's down the road not across the tracks, make it count |
| 20:14.35 | LetheKai | <--agrees with Aeyan |
| 20:14.39 | Xuerian | Or however that saying goes >.> |
| 20:14.44 | Zhinjio | I can't stand the chat windows, in general. I may go back to using a single window again. |
| 20:14.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I usually hear it as 'down the street, not across the road.' |
| 20:14.59 | xyu` | well part of it has to do with my playing resolution. 1280x1024 19" LCD |
| 20:15.00 | Xuerian | That too |
| 20:15.08 | xyu` | if i had some 24" widescreen i might not be so strict |
| 20:15.14 | FireAllianceNX | same here xyu` |
| 20:15.15 | xyu` | but yet again, i probably would be |
| 20:15.16 | Aeyan | xyu`, very yes. |
| 20:15.20 | NightHawkTheSane | no, you would be. :P |
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| 20:15.23 | Aeyan | 1280x1024 limits me so, hehe |
| 20:15.23 | Xuerian | 1280x1024 as well |
| 20:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu`: i've got a 22" widescreen, i still try to cut out unecessary gui elements |
| 20:15.33 | LetheKai | My UI has changed since SM, but this was it 30 lvls ago: http://www.chronalis.com/images/lethe/super-ui.jpg |
| 20:15.34 | Xuerian | I actually like it though o_0 |
| 20:15.35 | cncfanatics | xyu, was ? |
| 20:15.35 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2007-11-10_prettiest.jpg |
| 20:15.48 | cncfanatics | xyu`* |
| 20:15.51 | Xuerian | good lord |
| 20:15.52 | cncfanatics | why not is ? :p |
| 20:15.55 | Xuerian | half the screen T_T |
| 20:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | this is actually my current gui on my shaman. I want to get rid of more, though. >< http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/ui.jpeg |
| 20:16.16 | Zhinjio | lemme see if I can find a recent pic |
| 20:16.17 | Xuerian | Looks pretty, though |
| 20:16.29 | cncfanatics | 1600x1200 :) |
| 20:16.33 | Antiarc | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1324/wowscrnshot111107204609hh7.jpg |
| 20:16.35 | xyu` | you waste a lot of space though |
| 20:16.38 | xyu` | scale your map down a little |
| 20:16.38 | Aeyan | All of my screenshots are a little outdated, but eh |
| 20:16.39 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/ui-sept.jpg |
| 20:16.46 | xyu` | and yo ucan cut that top black part off a half an inch |
| 20:16.53 | NeoTron | I got a nice top view on archimonde |
| 20:16.57 | NeoTron | died mid-air |
| 20:17.10 | Aeyan | Hehe, I've heard that's an interesting fight |
| 20:17.10 | LetheKai | You can see through the bar at the bottom, I don't consider it wasted. Can also see through the top FuBar. |
| 20:17.12 | FireAllianceNX | LetheKai: What bar is that with the blue mp5 thing? |
| 20:17.26 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_110807_005005.jpg - over cluttered atm - was looking at a convo from guild chat when i took the ss - notice minichat though ;P |
| 20:17.35 | Antiarc | Teron is fun, yeah |
| 20:17.44 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_102407_211834.jpg yay raiding as a rogue is fun! |
| 20:17.45 | LetheKai | You talking about in the top middle, on the FuBar, FireAllianceNX? If so, that's RegenFu I think. |
| 20:17.46 | Tuller | I always find it weird that people color things by class, and then also add in text telling you what class the unit is |
| 20:17.55 | kenlyric | what's a good mana regen tracking mod? |
| 20:17.58 | Fisker- | oh u Chompers |
| 20:18.01 | kenlyric | seems like i used to have a fubar mod for this. |
| 20:18.06 | Fisker- | we just wiped for like half an hour on the same trash |
| 20:18.10 | kenlyric | regenfu, that's it, thanks |
| 20:18.10 | NeoTron | http://www.eongames.com/tmp/WoWScrnShot_111207_002702.jpg |
| 20:18.13 | FireAllianceNX | LetheKai: Right under Fubar |
| 20:18.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: i find it helps me register it faster. *shrug* |
| 20:18.25 | FireAllianceNX | LetheKai: the big blue thing that looks like arcane missle |
| 20:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Although, as far as class-coloring goes, i try to keep it limited to player name |
| 20:18.36 | kenlyric | that's probably from regenfu |
| 20:18.42 | kenlyric | the 5sr timer |
| 20:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and class name |
| 20:18.48 | Aeyan | Yeah, I suppose it's redundant info but it's extreme habit by now |
| 20:18.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i loath bars colored by class. >< |
| 20:18.59 | kenlyric | hmmm... files still down? |
| 20:19.06 | LetheKai | FireAlliance: That's an experience bar. |
| 20:19.12 | FireAllianceNX | wasn't down a couple minutes ago |
| 20:19.17 | FireAllianceNX | LetheKai: oh lol |
| 20:19.19 | NightHawkTheSane | FireAllianceNX: fuxpfu, i believe |
| 20:19.20 | xyu` | here's my old UI |
| 20:19.20 | LetheKai | Hee. |
| 20:19.21 | xyu` | http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5810/wowuinr9.jpg |
| 20:19.24 | xyu` | i've since reduced it more |
| 20:19.25 | LetheKai | NightHawk's correct. |
| 20:19.28 | xyu` | it's kind of cluttered |
| 20:19.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i used to use that |
| 20:19.53 | kenlyric | lots of my mods have lines through them. |
| 20:20.21 | FireAllianceNX | that blue trail blazing thing is XP bar? man |
| 20:20.31 | Xuerian | Tuller: Yeah, that is kindof odd >.o |
| 20:20.33 | kenlyric | it's a "feature" of wau i've never seen before. |
| 20:20.33 | NightHawkTheSane | what font are you using there? |
| 20:20.47 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/wowscreens/WoWScrnShot_071507_165313.jpg |
| 20:20.49 | Arcaia | !!! |
| 20:20.51 | FireAllianceNX | wonder if there's one for mp5, so I can go crazy |
| 20:20.56 | NightHawkTheSane | er, Antiarc: what font are you using there? :) |
| 20:21.01 | Antiarc | Emblem, primarily |
| 20:21.49 | Zhinjio | 3M image. I really should shrink this down: http://geo.trippy.org/images/zjui7.png |
| 20:21.51 | kenlyric | does anyone know about the lines through mods? does that mean their toc is old? |
| 20:22.03 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 20:22.10 | Xuerian | http://filebeam.com/27e4937d8fe3de7028a7a4840334b7dc.jpg main, http://filebeam.com/0ba26294d805f390e1370d705a4ed23c.jpg alt |
| 20:22.14 | stavmar | Antiarc: do you have that cowtip setup for your tooltips? I am trying to get rid of class listing on Enemy NPCs or any NPCs for that matter? |
| 20:22.19 | kenlyric | it's scary. make me think they're going to get deleted. |
| 20:22.35 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics * r54527 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Check usability when buffs change for clearcasting |
| 20:22.38 | kenlyric | suggestion: don't use strikeout for that :) |
| 20:22.45 | Aeyan | Aluminum is a pretty texture |
| 20:22.48 | Antiarc | Hm. I think I have class listings for NPCs on |
| 20:23.16 | FireAllianceNX | you guys have way awesome looking UI than mine lol |
| 20:23.43 | Zhinjio | I need to do some more work on raid frames. not happy with them atm. |
| 20:23.48 | Zhinjio | and uf in general. |
| 20:24.04 | MoonWitch | what time is it in PST? |
| 20:24.07 | Zhinjio | if I go back to one chat window, that'll open up some huge space for making things cleaner |
| 20:24.09 | Antiarc | 12:30 |
| 20:24.12 | Aeyan | 12:24pm |
| 20:24.18 | Cyrez | 12:24PM |
| 20:24.20 | MoonWitch | and uhm cncfanatics what's yer ping usually on wow/ |
| 20:24.25 | Tuller | boo giant portraits :P |
| 20:24.27 | MoonWitch | thanks :) |
| 20:24.29 | cncfanatics | lemme check MoonWitch |
| 20:24.43 | MoonWitch | it would solve a few issues to switch back to EU |
| 20:24.43 | Tuller | even though I want a giant portrait street fighter like character select screen |
| 20:24.54 | Xuerian | haha |
| 20:24.55 | xyu` | ha |
| 20:24.59 | Xuerian | If only we could modify login XD |
| 20:25.23 | xyu` | i need to edit parot to not be so cluttering |
| 20:25.28 | xyu` | and have some sort of order to it |
| 20:25.34 | xyu` | right now things just go wherever they want |
| 20:25.47 | cncfanatics | whats the API to get ping again ? -.- |
| 20:25.47 | Aeyan | Portraits forced me to make my unitframes too big (for me), so I ended up giving them the axe |
| 20:25.52 | cncfanatics | I don't have ping shown on my screen |
| 20:25.53 | Zhinjio | I *really* wish fubar supported a vertical bar. no text support on it, just the icons. |
| 20:26.03 | Zhinjio | so many of the stuff I have on there is just the icon. |
| 20:26.07 | Zhinjio | for mouseover. |
| 20:26.21 | kenlyric | Zhinjio: that would be so very sexy. |
| 20:26.24 | Zhinjio | ckknight? hear that? vertical bar support!!! |
| 20:26.27 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 20:26.29 | Aeyan | You could attach them to minimap and find an addon to organize and sort them possibly |
| 20:26.36 | Zhinjio | yeah, I used to do that. |
| 20:26.43 | Zhinjio | DFM to move them into a vertical bar. |
| 20:26.51 | MoonWitch | getlatency? |
| 20:26.54 | cncfanatics | 119 MS, MoonWitch |
| 20:27.08 | MoonWitch | damn .. mine's as high from be to us |
| 20:27.15 | Zhinjio | I got tired of all the rearranging. |
| 20:27.18 | xyu` | I'm making a note here: huge success! |
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| 20:27.44 | Aeyan | You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. |
| 20:27.51 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, what provider ? |
| 20:28.12 | MoonWitch | dommel |
| 20:28.18 | cncfanatics | belgacom here, they suck :) |
| 20:28.31 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:28.42 | MoonWitch | I got a better upload about 100GB download, no upload limit .. same download speed for 40€ |
| 20:28.48 | kenlyric | man, need a way to see which mods use a lib. |
| 20:28.54 | MoonWitch | I used to pay 60 with belgacom for 30GB |
| 20:29.07 | Antiarc | kenlyric: Grep TOCs? |
| 20:29.19 | kenlyric | yeah, a lazier way :) |
| 20:29.29 | Aeyan | Thank all for no quotas =\ |
| 20:29.37 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54528 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:29.37 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:29.37 | CIA-4 | -Added nnew 2.3 mounts to the mount lists |
| 20:29.51 | kenlyric | trying to figure out which mod still uses compostlib |
| 20:30.11 | kenlyric | oooh, brainstorm! |
| 20:30.33 | FireAllianceNX | What should I remove next on my UI? http://sempervigilans.net/gallery/11_13_11_07_3_30_05.jpg |
| 20:30.52 | kenlyric | buttons |
| 20:30.53 | kenlyric | giant buttons |
| 20:30.56 | Chompers | minimap |
| 20:30.56 | kadrahil | yes |
| 20:30.57 | Lukian | the deafult action bars |
| 20:30.59 | Aeyan | Not much there |
| 20:31.02 | kadrahil | everything |
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| 20:31.05 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 20:31.09 | Tuller | just reduce the ui scale |
| 20:31.12 | Xuerian | the 404 error probably |
| 20:31.13 | FireAllianceNX | so get Bongos eh? |
| 20:31.16 | kenlyric | it's all fairly good, but the default action bars are just bad. |
| 20:31.17 | Aeyan | You could use a bar mod or shrink the pitbull/ag frames |
| 20:31.18 | kadrahil | you should remove alliance |
| 20:31.22 | kadrahil | and replace with horde |
| 20:31.25 | Aeyan | Or, yeah, just reduce the scale |
| 20:31.25 | kenlyric | they take up entirely too much space. |
| 20:31.26 | Lukian | FireAllianceNX, yeah or anything simlar |
| 20:31.31 | FireAllianceNX | the UI scale is already lowered, I can't see them if it gets any smaller |
| 20:31.43 | Chompers | gogo simpleminimap |
| 20:31.50 | kenlyric | bartender3 is like actionbars for dummies, you can't screw it up. |
| 20:31.54 | kadrahil | bah, who needs minimap mods |
| 20:31.56 | cncfanatics | FireAllianceNX, get rid of default bars |
| 20:31.58 | Aeyan | I do |
| 20:32.00 | cncfanatics | get FB / BT / Bongos |
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| 20:32.02 | FireAllianceNX | so Bartender then |
| 20:32.07 | kadrahil | yes |
| 20:32.12 | Tuller | bongos! :P |
| 20:32.15 | FireAllianceNX | easy is good, I use Pitbull currently |
| 20:32.16 | kadrahil | no |
| 20:32.17 | Chompers | bartender3 |
| 20:32.18 | NightHawkTheSane | bongos and bt3 are fairly comparable |
| 20:32.24 | kenlyric | maybe show icons you need for decursing right in grid. |
| 20:32.33 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54529 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:32.34 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:32.34 | CIA-4 | -It helps when mounts have textures :) |
| 20:32.36 | cncfanatics | FireAllianceNX, depends what u want |
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| 20:32.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 20:32.45 | Lukian | You should use grid for raids :D |
| 20:32.45 | cncfanatics | FB has a lot of costumization but is a pain to setup |
| 20:32.49 | FireAllianceNX | I'm gonna remove Decursive soon since I'm using Clique, just haven't done it for my non-healers |
| 20:32.54 | cncfanatics | BT3 & Bongos are ez to setup but are kinda limited |
| 20:33.09 | Tuller | define, limited :P |
| 20:33.13 | LetheKai | Soon as Flexbar goes graphic I'm totally in! |
| 20:33.17 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 20:33.20 | LetheKai | Until then I use BT3. |
| 20:33.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: compared to fb, i suppose |
| 20:33.23 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: he's using the default bars. |
| 20:33.28 | kenlyric | he's used to limited. |
| 20:33.33 | kadrahil | kenlyric++ |
| 20:33.33 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 20:33.39 | Tuller | trinity does infinite buttons now too, btw |
| 20:33.45 | cncfanatics | it does ? :o |
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| 20:33.47 | kadrahil | uhoh |
| 20:33.50 | cncfanatics | cool |
| 20:33.50 | kadrahil | cnc has competition |
| 20:33.51 | NightHawkTheSane | people use trinity bars? |
| 20:33.52 | Tuller | true |
| 20:33.56 | kenlyric | I went from default action bars to discord and nearly choked on the options. |
| 20:33.58 | kadrahil | NightHawkTheSane: lies |
| 20:34.00 | Tuller | yes, a lot of people NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:34.02 | cncfanatics | kadrahil, u realize thats far from the major feature in FB right ? |
| 20:34.03 | Tuller | :P |
| 20:34.09 | kadrahil | cncfanatics: i know ;) |
| 20:34.09 | Tuller | (not actually sarcasim) |
| 20:34.19 | kadrahil | cncfanatics: i haven't actually used FB, i'm just trolling cause i'm bored :( |
| 20:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: :P to be honest, i hadn't actually heard of anyone using htem lately |
| 20:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | but around here, i guess most people just use bongos/bt3 |
| 20:34.35 | kadrahil | cncfanatics: please don't flame me :( |
| 20:34.53 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane, some elitist nabs that have al ot of patience & typing speed use FB :p |
| 20:34.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I used trinity briefly during BC beta, because it was like the only working bar mod for a short time or something. |
| 20:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: you're generally a minority, though ;) |
| 20:35.07 | anti__ | anyone have any ideas how BT3 is going to work with the new priest mind control bar changes? |
| 20:35.18 | kadrahil | i'm really waiting to see if their "improved" multicore support is really better |
| 20:35.21 | kadrahil | since i use a core 2 duo |
| 20:35.21 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone bothered to update the .toc on actual Ace2 standalone addon itself? |
| 20:35.29 | ZealotOnAStick | or just nobody with permissions to do that bothered yet? |
| 20:35.32 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.44 | kadrahil | bobdole :O |
| 20:35.46 | Tuller | I know commands sometimes :P |
| 20:35.46 | LetheKai | Kad: Can't wait to see, myself. |
| 20:35.50 | Aeyan | What'd they do to mind control? |
| 20:35.53 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane, thats mainly cuz I'm too lazy to make a gui though |
| 20:36.02 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: arguably so. |
| 20:36.09 | cncfanatics | first gonna lvl to 70 :) |
| 20:36.10 | trashkit | mind control won't be a pet bar, it will replace your action bar |
| 20:36.18 | kenlyric | i've used all of them, and BT3 is easily the one that is closest to default action bars. And then bongos is next with a bit more options/complexity, then there's a giant leap to the awesomeness of flexbar/etc. |
| 20:36.20 | Aeyan | ZealotOnAStick, no one yet. |
| 20:36.24 | trashkit | i'm wondering how that is going to work with my bongos as well |
| 20:36.47 | Tuller | trashkit: well the good news is |
| 20:36.57 | LetheKai | Ken: I guess I'm okay with basic, I can't really imagine what you'd WANT to do with all those buttons everywhere... =D |
| 20:36.59 | Tuller | trashkit: its a pet bar :P |
| 20:37.00 | anti__ | yeah I know its not a pet bar.. but does it become a stance that I need to do paging on? |
| 20:37.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller saved a bunch of money on his car insurance by switchign to geico |
| 20:37.05 | FireAllianceNX | um Bongos isn't on WAU? |
| 20:37.08 | Tuller | + two extra buttons |
| 20:37.13 | anti__ | just curious how it'll work hehe no worries. |
| 20:37.15 | NightHawkTheSane | FireAllianceNX: its not ace. |
| 20:37.19 | FireAllianceNX | oh :P |
| 20:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | it's extremely good, though |
| 20:37.35 | FireAllianceNX | is it on Curse or WoWinterface? |
| 20:37.41 | Tuller | yes |
| 20:38.00 | FireAllianceNX | ok, cross your finger, it's hard to find stuff on curse these days lol |
| 20:38.02 | Tuller | http://www.google.com/search?q=bongos2 :) |
| 20:38.20 | Toadkiller | Woohoo another hour added! Will the bonus coding round ever end? |
| 20:38.21 | cncfanatics | anti__, I'm guessing a stance |
| 20:38.28 | cncfanatics | when I figured how I'll add support for it |
| 20:38.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Toadkiller: it will when you passout from hunger. :D |
| 20:38.32 | kadrahil | bongos is one of the few non ace mods i would use |
| 20:38.32 | Aeyan | A google search? Pfft, you need better self promotion than that. |
| 20:38.37 | FireAllianceNX | Google cheater. |
| 20:38.38 | LetheKai | Toad: What? =( |
| 20:38.39 | kadrahil | if i didn't already love bartender |
| 20:38.42 | Tuller | http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/downloads/list?q=toc:2.3 |
| 20:38.48 | Tuller | Aeyan: better? :P |
| 20:38.53 | Aeyan | Quite. |
| 20:38.55 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
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| 20:39.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: out of curiosity, how often would I end up with broken mods if i just updated straight from your gcode repo. :P |
| 20:39.14 | FireAllianceNX | now, can you do screen shots? j/k |
| 20:39.16 | kadrahil | 21 minutes )!(*@&#$*(& |
| 20:39.29 | NightHawkTheSane | kadrahil: read a book. :) |
| 20:39.32 | hypetech | kadrahil: actually they just updated it again to 2 pm PST :( |
| 20:39.36 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: it depends on what i'm doing, usually |
| 20:39.41 | xyu` | wow |
| 20:39.41 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: sometimes i don't test my commits out |
| 20:39.49 | xyu` | SellFish is probably the coolest name for an addon EVAR |
| 20:39.51 | cncfanatics | tbh, I hate bartender |
| 20:39.54 | kadrahil | hypetech: lolwut? |
| 20:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: i'll take that as fair warning, and stick with wowi ;) |
| 20:39.58 | Lukian | hypetech, omg, they did :( |
| 20:39.59 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: other times I spend forever before i put something up on it |
| 20:40.00 | hypetech | kadrahil: ya :( |
| 20:40.01 | cncfanatics | and I'm wondering how it manages to get 500kb of static mem usage with what it does :p |
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| 20:40.05 | cncfanatics | way too much |
| 20:40.05 | kadrahil | haha |
| 20:40.06 | kadrahil | man |
| 20:40.15 | kadrahil | hypetech: that sucks |
| 20:40.19 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, don't use my SVN unless you want things to break :) |
| 20:40.37 | Tuller | cncfanatics: its from the ace libs, you know that :P |
| 20:40.37 | kadrahil | i guess i'll go play some desktop TD |
| 20:40.51 | Chompers | vashj is such a cool fight |
| 20:40.53 | hypetech | what exactly do the addons with strikethrough mean in WAU? |
| 20:40.56 | Chompers | never done anything like it |
| 20:41.00 | hypetech | will those still try to update? |
| 20:41.08 | cncfanatics | Tuller, FB takes the same mem with rock libs |
| 20:41.16 | Aeyan | TOC is out of date |
| 20:41.16 | cncfanatics | and my libs are standalone :p |
| 20:41.27 | xyu` | i just clicked "Yes" and it went away |
| 20:41.29 | xyu` | so i dont know :) |
| 20:41.37 | Tuller | cncfanatics: are you watching both of them with just the addons enabled? :) |
| 20:41.41 | FireAllianceNX | hypetech: TOC out of date and you have Load out of date addons unchecked. |
| 20:41.44 | cncfanatics | Tuller, yea |
| 20:41.45 | hypetech | lol, didn't that disable those mods for you though? |
| 20:42.02 | Tuller | cncfanatics: its still the ace libs :P |
| 20:42.09 | cncfanatics | Tuller, riiiight |
| 20:42.10 | Spiffy | hypetech, give me ss or give me death |
| 20:42.16 | Spiffy | or blue |
| 20:42.23 | hypetech | o.0 ? |
| 20:42.30 | Spiffy | that 2pm pst thing |
| 20:42.43 | Lukian | Just load up your client :p |
| 20:42.45 | hypetech | just go to the login |
| 20:42.46 | hypetech | ya |
| 20:42.48 | Lukian | Its right in your face. |
| 20:43.03 | Spiffy | im logged in already and im afraid to log out and get authentication issues =p |
| 20:43.05 | Spiffy | lol |
| 20:43.10 | Spiffy | ill trust u i suppose |
| 20:43.19 | Lukian | lol |
| 20:43.28 | hypetech | you're logged into a live server? |
| 20:43.39 | Lukian | he's logged to realm selection, which is empty :P |
| 20:43.43 | Spiffy | no im logged into the "here's a blank server list" screen |
| 20:44.02 | balstor | yhea i just relogged in and it now saya 2:00 pst |
| 20:44.09 | Spiffy | ./cry |
| 20:44.21 | hypetech | lol |
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| 20:44.59 | FireAllianceNX | is PTR completely down now? |
| 20:45.09 | hypetech | lol were you just going to wait at the realm screen to beat the auth server rush? lol |
| 20:45.12 | FireAllianceNX | never mind, I deleted the folder. |
| 20:45.24 | hypetech | FireAllianceNX: that'll do it |
| 20:45.30 | Spiffy | yes hyperChipmunk |
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| 20:45.34 | Spiffy | er.. hypetech |
| 20:45.36 | hypetech | haha |
| 20:45.38 | breser | I swear Blizzard couldn't estimate the time of anything. |
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| 20:46.15 | Spiffy | i wish S3 was today too =( |
| 20:46.16 | NivFreak | I'd rather they wait an extra hour |
| 20:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeesh, you people need to give them a break, and go do something else for a few hours. |
| 20:46.20 | NivFreak | than come up and crash for 5 |
| 20:46.36 | Spiffy | another week of waiting to find out if I got glad's |
| 20:46.38 | hypetech | heh. kungen already has 3/5 T6 for his DPS gear >.< |
| 20:46.41 | hypetech | WTB BT attunement |
| 20:46.44 | breser | I'd rather they just learn to overesitmate their time and come up earlier than they said they would. |
| 20:46.53 | breser | Rather than extending the time every bloody time. |
| 20:47.10 | CIA-4 | 03funkydude * r54530 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: Sc/Lurker: Different approach to wipe detection, should fix disappearing bars. |
| 20:47.19 | FireAllianceNX | breser: Very Star Trek of you :D |
| 20:47.45 | Elzarath | so is today 2.3 patch day? |
| 20:47.54 | FireAllianceNX | ya |
| 20:47.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Elzarath: ... welcome to eight hours ago. ;) |
| 20:48.00 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:48.04 | Aeyan | All I was really planning on doing on WoW today was respec'ing my warrior, running out and deathwish/recklessness/mortal strike something, giggle, and log off. |
| 20:48.09 | durcyn | hey guys i heard there's a patch today |
| 20:48.16 | Elzarath | lol im still at work had no idea |
| 20:48.18 | aestil | guysh. whats a patch |
| 20:48.20 | NeoTron | I don' get why they keep saying 11am when in reality they pretty much never make it by then |
| 20:48.38 | breser | Actually they're implementing 8.4 today, if you don't have a holodeck installed yet you're out of luck. |
| 20:48.47 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 20:48.50 | Elzarath | could'nt figure out why the forums at wow where crashing then it downed on me |
| 20:48.52 | FireAllianceNX | holodeck wins. |
| 20:48.53 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: because they like laughing at the people who get their hopes up at thinking they can log in before noon |
| 20:49.08 | aestil | Funkeh`: wow, thanks for bumping the toc for various addons and librarires working on the PTR |
| 20:49.16 | Elzarath | s/downed.dawned |
| 20:49.35 | FireAllianceNX | I knew I should've kept PTR around so I can mess with Bongos >.< |
| 20:49.43 | aestil | lol, its 2pm PST now |
| 20:49.46 | hypetech | Aeyan: did they even change DW/Reck/MS ? o.0 |
| 20:49.59 | Aeyan | I think I heard the PTR went down last night |
| 20:50.06 | FireAllianceNX | it was up earlier today |
| 20:50.12 | aestil | MoonWitch: you no longer play, or you play EU? |
| 20:50.18 | Aeyan | hypetech, they moved DW to the Arms tree |
| 20:50.20 | MoonWitch | thinking on switch EU |
| 20:50.20 | breser | FireAllianceNX: PTR is down anyway. |
| 20:50.22 | FireAllianceNX | there was like 6 of us at the IF mailbox dancing. |
| 20:50.30 | hypetech | Aeyan: ah |
| 20:50.34 | CIA-4 | 03drool * r54531 10Nauticus/ (8 files): |
| 20:50.34 | CIA-4 | Nauticus: v2.2.1 |
| 20:50.34 | CIA-4 | - add debug diagnostic metadata to tooltip when holding shift key |
| 20:50.34 | CIA-4 | - add NautDebug.lua, changes.txt (split from readme.txt) |
| 20:50.34 | CIA-4 | - only observe server channel changes for interesting zones |
| 20:50.38 | FireAllianceNX | breser: awww :( |
| 20:50.39 | MoonWitch | I still have my US account til end of the month |
| 20:50.55 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54532 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:50.55 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:50.55 | CIA-4 | -Added Swift Warstrider to the mount list (missed this one earlier) |
| 20:51.08 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: can you transfer chars across eu/us accounts? |
| 20:51.09 | FireAllianceNX | I thought there was a mod called Drool for a second... |
| 20:51.11 | Elzarath | I dont even wanna read the patch crap theirs a post titled WarBiking, lose 41lbs while playing wow... gotta be halarious rig set up |
| 20:51.24 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather, across eu/us servers, too, i suppose |
| 20:51.33 | NightHawkTheSane | which means, probably not. >.> nevermind |
| 20:51.35 | aestil | so, i need something to track CD for icon of silvler cresecent and inner focus. there are sooooo manaananay options. anyone have any preferences they can share? |
| 20:51.37 | MoonWitch | NightHawkTheSane no you can't |
| 20:51.54 | durcyn | aestil: Hourglass |
| 20:51.58 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: omnicc? |
| 20:52.02 | Droolio | FireAllianceNX: i like that idea |
| 20:52.06 | FireAllianceNX | aestil: ItemRack :P |
| 20:52.12 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: i have omnicc, i fail at paying atteniton |
| 20:52.15 | Droolio | maybe it could be for mages and making water or sumit |
| 20:52.16 | FireAllianceNX | oh wait, inner foucs |
| 20:52.19 | aestil | FireAllianceNX: i use closet gnome. |
| 20:52.22 | NeoTron | is it possible to make a macro with: /use Healthstone <newline> /use Super Healing Potion |
| 20:52.23 | FireAllianceNX | SCT |
| 20:52.25 | NeoTron | etc |
| 20:52.30 | JoshBorke | aestil: i like coolDown from files.wowace.com |
| 20:52.30 | breser | NeoTron: Yes. |
| 20:52.33 | NeoTron | ok |
| 20:52.35 | NeoTron | need to do that |
| 20:52.38 | Tuller | yeah use SCT/MSBT/Parrot |
| 20:52.40 | breser | NeoTron: It'll use both though. |
| 20:52.45 | NeoTron | oh |
| 20:52.47 | NeoTron | that's not what I want |
| 20:52.49 | aestil | Tuller: too much infospam already |
| 20:52.52 | NeoTron | there's no cooldown to prevent that? |
| 20:52.54 | aestil | i can't pay enough attn to that. |
| 20:52.57 | Tuller | aestil: reduce it :) |
| 20:52.57 | FireAllianceNX | Droolio: Great, but with ritual of refreshment, ehhhh |
| 20:52.57 | breser | Healthstones and pots don't trip a GCD. |
| 20:53.04 | NeoTron | damn ok |
| 20:53.07 | aestil | although with parrot, i could be like HUGE NOTICE ME TEXT for what i want. |
| 20:53.09 | NeoTron | guess I would need two buttons |
| 20:53.13 | NeoTron | one for stones one for bots |
| 20:53.15 | NeoTron | pots |
| 20:53.18 | Tuller | aestil: that's what most things are setup for :) |
| 20:53.22 | aestil | Tuller: i have information i want on screen, but i filter it mentally. |
| 20:53.22 | Jaxon | NeoTron: /castsequence Major Healthstone, Super Healing Potion |
| 20:53.23 | NeoTron | that makes me wonder |
| 20:53.26 | aestil | Tuller: right, i just use parrot. |
| 20:53.34 | FireAllianceNX | argh, now I remember why I can't use closet gnome |
| 20:53.35 | NeoTron | Jaxon: oh that works? wicke |
| 20:53.41 | JoshBorke | aestil: just put icon on VT :-P |
| 20:53.45 | breser | Should work. |
| 20:53.46 | hypetech | Parrot rocks. |
| 20:53.50 | aestil | most of the time i dont' pay any attention to the combat text, unless i need something. and then i know where to look. does that meke sense? |
| 20:53.52 | Tinyanti | gah they extended maintenance another hour. |
| 20:54.02 | aestil | JoshBorke: i need a cooldown for Icon of silver crescent and innerfocus |
| 20:54.05 | cturner | 2pm pst!! grr |
| 20:54.05 | hypetech | aestil: same. |
| 20:54.07 | aestil | what does VT have to do with anything |
| 20:54.25 | Tuller | I find myself liking MSBT as of right now, but I'll probably end up back on SCT eventually |
| 20:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: he means macro it to your VT casting |
| 20:54.28 | JoshBorke | it has EVERYTHING to do with it |
| 20:54.31 | FireAllianceNX | hmm you have the option to turn them off in SCT tho |
| 20:54.35 | MoonWitch | I guess they thought it would work smoothly ... guess they were wrong |
| 20:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: why do you say that? |
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| 20:54.56 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: because I always hop between both of them :) |
| 20:54.57 | aestil | Tuller: i switched from MSBT to parrot. |
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| 20:55.07 | JoshBorke | i've been using MSBT forever |
| 20:55.08 | Tuller | aestil: I cannot stand parrot's config though :) |
| 20:55.14 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i mean, what would compel you to switch to sct from msbt :P |
| 20:55.22 | aestil | really? i found it far far far more intuitive that SCT |
| 20:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | or vise versa, i suppose |
| 20:55.23 | |Stan| | aestil: I switched from parrot to msbt |
| 20:55.30 | aestil | as in..... they are not even close. |
| 20:55.46 | Tuller | aestil: fonts also look uglier :) |
| 20:55.53 | Tuller | or at least they did when I tested it |
| 20:56.00 | NivFreak | sct lost all my settings at some point |
| 20:56.01 | aestil | wierd. |
| 20:56.02 | MoonWitch | Tuller: you can change the fonts ... |
| 20:56.05 | NivFreak | and I've never bothered to set it up again |
| 20:56.08 | aestil | yeah, shared media fonts. |
| 20:56.09 | NivFreak | I can't see shit while tanking |
| 20:56.11 | NivFreak | it's sorta funny |
| 20:56.11 | Tuller | MoonWitch: true |
| 20:56.19 | MoonWitch | I love Parrot's set up, but I use MBST |
| 20:56.24 | MoonWitch | MSBT* |
| 20:56.31 | Zhinjio | Parrot > SCT/SCTD? |
| 20:56.38 | Tuller | user preference! |
| 20:56.47 | kenlyric | agreed! |
| 20:56.50 | aestil | creating new scrolling areas, and making specific rules for a specfic scroll area, and all the different animation options, and sticky options, and color options and blah blah blah |
| 20:56.59 | aestil | but tuller, i know, is one who prefers to have fewer options. |
| 20:57.00 | hypetech | so I heard EBB doesn't work on the PTR /sandpanda |
| 20:57.01 | Tuller | aestil: I don't car about any of that :) |
| 20:57.05 | Tuller | err care |
| 20:57.05 | aestil | and a setup that just works |
| 20:57.16 | hypetech | lol sand panda |
| 20:57.18 | aestil | yes i know you don't :) |
| 20:57.25 | FireAllianceNX | lol @ sand panda |
| 20:58.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm an asshole really, i want intuitive config ability for the things i want to change, and no ability to change the things i don't. and i want mod authors to know the difference between the two ;) |
| 20:58.04 | MoonWitch | ebb has issues with the tracker change |
| 20:58.10 | MoonWitch | but the rest of it works |
| 20:58.13 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane: write ur own mods :p |
| 20:58.22 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: seeking perfection is never bad. |
| 20:58.40 | FireAllianceNX | writing your own mod would be too much options eh? :) |
| 20:58.41 | Chompers | sandpanda |
| 20:58.42 | kenlyric | All I ask is for basic things, like using the default profile and not hosing when the profile is changed *glare* |
| 20:58.43 | Chompers | hahahaha |
| 20:58.48 | hypetech | Chompers: lol :( |
| 20:58.57 | Aeyan | It's the same as a lot of other mod choices |
| 20:59.04 | cncfanatics | FlexBar does profiles just fine :;) |
| 20:59.08 | Aeyan | Just progressive levels of complexity for those who want it or don't |
| 20:59.15 | NightHawkTheSane | cnc, pretty lazy :P |
| 20:59.23 | FireAllianceNX | does anyone have problems copying profiles in Pitbull? |
| 20:59.26 | cncfanatics | profile support in FB is something i'm proud of tbh :p |
| 21:00.01 | dashkal | hmm, I should consider checking out FB again what with this major patch |
| 21:00.25 | Tuller | I need to end up rewriting bongos profiles to attach keybindings and action sets :P |
| 21:00.26 | FireAllianceNX | I'm getting confused with FuBar and Flexbar XD |
| 21:00.27 | Zhinjio | I really should do a complete mod cleanup again. |
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| 21:00.31 | Aeyan | All my characters use the same profile, except for Bongos because of the stance bar |
| 21:00.37 | dashkal | but one very important question: does it support the 'zoomed' layout? I like the borderless buttons |
| 21:00.45 | Aeyan | I've got waaay too many to build a UI for each of em |
| 21:00.47 | Tuller | Aeyan: were you the one who yelled at me for that? :) |
| 21:00.54 | Aeyan | Not I |
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| 21:01.08 | Tuller | well, someone told me that I should setup per class settings :P |
| 21:01.12 | kenlyric | so, turns out none of my mods use compostlib. |
| 21:01.25 | kenlyric | experienceFu removed it last month. |
| 21:01.30 | FireAllianceNX | yay? :) |
| 21:01.42 | Aeyan | Meh, I've got no problem just copying a profile from another character and resizing my stance bar |
| 21:02.09 | FireAllianceNX | Aeyan: if only I could do that on pitbull ^^ |
| 21:02.19 | kenlyric | Aeyan: blasphemy! |
| 21:02.24 | Aeyan | Single profile! |
| 21:02.25 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:02.26 | kenlyric | default profiles or death! |
| 21:02.29 | Aeyan | It solves problems! |
| 21:02.30 | cncfanatics | tbh, handyest way is to have a default 'char' profile |
| 21:02.33 | cncfanatics | and have all the rest sharted |
| 21:02.35 | cncfanatics | shared* |
| 21:02.36 | kenlyric | I stab every mod that doesn't use them. |
| 21:02.50 | Aeyan | kenlyric, I love my default profiles |
| 21:03.02 | Aeyan | Err, profile |
| 21:03.04 | FireAllianceNX | toons with aura and stances messes up so I need profiles for those :( |
| 21:03.12 | Aeyan | ^ except that |
| 21:03.18 | kenlyric | works for that too. |
| 21:03.28 | kenlyric | bt3 is just smart like that. |
| 21:03.32 | FireAllianceNX | build me a UI that works then lol :P |
| 21:03.38 | Kerafyrm | wagers on extention of the maintenance window? |
| 21:03.54 | kenlyric | Autobar, Recount, Omen are the only ones. |
| 21:03.58 | Aeyan | Well, I frame my stance bar with eepanels |
| 21:04.18 | xerawx | Kerafyrm: one more extension imo, 3pm PST |
| 21:04.18 | Aeyan | And it needs to fit between the buffs/debuffs between my unitframes, so I often have the resize it |
| 21:04.24 | Aeyan | Still, not that much work |
| 21:04.34 | FireAllianceNX | oh yeah, I guess I'm switching to Bongos and I wouldn't need to switch profiles for my UF |
| 21:04.38 | cturner | speaking of recount, anyone know why it spams so much? fuaddonspam nails it with like 10x more spam than any other mod I use, way more than recap or other damage meters ever came close to |
| 21:04.40 | kenlyric | ah, I just make mine to fit in a place that's empty without them. |
| 21:04.59 | LetheKai|AFK | Hmm. Where on the forums do they post pushing maintenance back, or is it only in the login screen? I think I must be blind to not find it. |
| 21:05.09 | Lukian | login screen |
| 21:05.10 | FireAllianceNX | it's only login screen |
| 21:05.18 | LetheKai|AFK | kk, Thanks! Back to AFK-land. |
| 21:06.44 | FireAllianceNX | I don't remember, does Pitbull comes with a default layout? |
| 21:06.50 | Zhinjio | yes. |
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| 21:06.59 | FireAllianceNX | thanks :) |
| 21:07.00 | Spiffy | lol.. so far my activities while waiting for servers have ranged from sleeping to setting things on fire |
| 21:07.01 | Birdemani | Morning kiddies |
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| 21:07.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:07.09 | dashkal | Is cartographer likely to be dead awhile? |
| 21:07.14 | MoonWitch | hey Tekkub |
| 21:08.00 | FireAllianceNX | Spiffy: You need a hobby outside the house lol |
| 21:08.00 | cncfanatics | dashal, why would it ? |
| 21:08.00 | ZealotOnAStick | is carto1 working? |
| 21:08.00 | Tekkub | moo |
| 21:08.00 | cncfanatics | and there is no carto1 |
| 21:08.00 | kenlyric | who said it's dead? |
| 21:08.00 | Spiffy | FireAllianceNX, i agree - find me one =p |
| 21:08.00 | MoonWitch | gonna commit a crime now |
| 21:08.00 | MoonWolf | i want me some servers |
| 21:08.00 | MoonWitch | use dreamweaver to write a site .. i am bored |
| 21:08.00 | ZealotOnAStick | svn/files/wau disagrees with you cncfanatics |
| 21:08.00 | FireAllianceNX | Spiffy: Go shopping for... uhhh..... something. |
| 21:08.00 | dashkal | kenlyric: The wow forums (I can't exactly log in to check myself) |
| 21:08.01 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: you should be ashamed |
| 21:08.06 | Tuller | cncfanatics: Cartographer1 does in fact exist :P |
| 21:08.10 | MoonWitch | I know NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:08.13 | cncfanatics | is that the lame ace version ? |
| 21:08.17 | Spiffy | haha, I'm in college.. I don't have money.. I have debt |
| 21:08.22 | MoonWitch | I usually use Notepad++ :) |
| 21:08.22 | Tuller | cncfanatics: yep |
| 21:08.27 | FireAllianceNX | Spiffy: Window Shopping |
| 21:08.34 | *** join/#wowace nakkas (n=nakkas@cuscon88202.tstt.net.tt) |
| 21:08.34 | cturner | Spiffy: like that changes when you leave college! |
| 21:08.35 | cncfanatics | the lame ace version has no right to call itself Carto1 |
| 21:08.35 | Cyrez | Notepad++ for the pwnage. |
| 21:08.36 | FireAllianceNX | Spiffy: I'm in college too |
| 21:08.36 | MoonWitch | Spiffy watch porn .. |
| 21:08.38 | cncfanatics | as the rock version is not 2 |
| 21:08.46 | FireAllianceNX | Spiffy: Stand in front of a display window and drool. lol |
| 21:08.58 | ZealotOnAStick | cncfanatics: I, like most users, don't give a damn what it's specifically named if it works. |
| 21:09.01 | MoonWitch | sing lame country songs |
| 21:09.03 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: it ought to be though |
| 21:09.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Does Carto1 work on 2.3? |
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| 21:09.13 | |Stan| | ZealotOnAStick: no |
| 21:09.17 | Spiffy | MoonWitch, check off as completed already |
| 21:09.35 | MoonWitch | Spiffy: lol was it any good? and did you clean up already? |
| 21:09.46 | cncfanatics | great, carto1 broke ? |
| 21:09.49 | cncfanatics | I hope its beyond salvation |
| 21:09.51 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 21:09.53 | MoonWitch | or were you talking about the country |
| 21:09.54 | aestil | JoshBorke: i dot alot of shit that i probably shouldn't , can't macro Icon to VT without wasting Icon |
| 21:09.56 | Lukian | me too |
| 21:10.05 | Tuller | probably for the same reaons cartographer2 broke :) |
| 21:10.13 | JoshBorke | aestil: there's your problem ;-P |
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| 21:10.21 | FireAllianceNX | Carto2 is broken? |
| 21:10.21 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 21:10.22 | Spiffy | lol.. ill just leave that up to you to decide |
| 21:10.31 | cncfanatics | Carto2 will get fixed eventualy |
| 21:10.34 | cncfanatics | cart1 won't, hopefully |
| 21:10.38 | MoonWitch | ALL Cartographers are broken due to changes in the map stuff |
| 21:10.38 | cturner | oh crap, I can't find my way from shattrath to ironforge without cartographer. I'm screwed |
| 21:10.39 | aestil | my problem is i dot too much, yes. |
| 21:10.48 | Toadkiller | Is this a good format for color or d opeople use something else: |
| 21:10.48 | Toadkiller | LibStickyFrames.ColorStickTargetHover = {red = 1, green = 0, blue = 1, alpha = 0.8} |
| 21:10.58 | Tuller | toad r, g, b, a! |
| 21:11.01 | xerawx | Carto88 doesnt work in 8.4 |
| 21:11.05 | xerawx | QQ |
| 21:11.07 | FireAllianceNX | what map changed? |
| 21:11.10 | Toadkiller | Tuller, mmm ok ill buy that |
| 21:11.11 | JoshBorke | Toadkiller: r, g, b, a, it's true |
| 21:11.12 | FireAllianceNX | besides dustwallow |
| 21:11.26 | MoonWitch | nvm just read the patch notes |
| 21:11.40 | dashkal | Heh, the only thing I'm really going to miss from cartographer is the non-fullscreenness |
| 21:11.40 | MoonWitch | it was very much so expected that most map addons would break |
| 21:11.45 | FireAllianceNX | I read it twice already, don't make me go back :( |
| 21:11.52 | kenlyric | if only there was some sort of PTR |
| 21:11.58 | Tuller | hehe |
| 21:12.05 | FireAllianceNX | noooooooooooooo |
| 21:12.06 | kenlyric | naughty of blizzard to just drop these patches on us without warning. |
| 21:12.10 | Xinhuan | well ck hasn't touched any of his addons for a full month |
| 21:12.20 | FireAllianceNX | kenlyric: It was announced last week O.o |
| 21:12.21 | dashkal | I can live without the node tracking and quest tracking and whatnot. Just let me scale the window |
| 21:12.21 | Tuller | the only thing that actually broke on me was omnicc's window |
| 21:12.31 | kenlyric | FireAllianceNX: what change? |
| 21:12.33 | MoonWitch | Xinhuan that's why I fear about the evolution of the addons at this point |
| 21:12.37 | Tuller | due to those OnValueChanged things |
| 21:12.42 | CIA-4 | 03stormfx * r54533 10cyCircled_VolGold/ (. cyCircled_VolGold.toc embeds.xml skins.lua): |
| 21:12.42 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_VolGold: |
| 21:12.42 | CIA-4 | - ToC Update. |
| 21:12.42 | CIA-4 | - Removed externals (don't need 'em!) |
| 21:12.48 | FireAllianceNX | kenlyric: lol which change are you referring to? |
| 21:12.51 | dylanm | What happened to ck? |
| 21:13.00 | kenlyric | I'm not referring to anything. |
| 21:13.07 | MoonWitch | dylanm he got a life maybe? |
| 21:13.07 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-140-91-57.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:13.09 | Xinhuan | nothing happened to him |
| 21:13.10 | cncfanatics | he's busy, dylanm |
| 21:13.10 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: his comp got borked, last i heard |
| 21:13.11 | Tuller | dylanm: he fell down a well! |
| 21:13.13 | kenlyric | he found a new project and abandoned the old ones. |
| 21:13.14 | Xinhuan | he just hasn't touched his addons |
| 21:13.18 | Xinhuan | got a new project |
| 21:13.21 | CIA-4 | 03stormfx * r54534 10cyCircled_Onyx/ (cyCircled_Onyx.toc skins.lua): |
| 21:13.21 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_Onyx: |
| 21:13.21 | CIA-4 | - ToC Udates. |
| 21:13.21 | CIA-4 | - Added a few comments. |
| 21:13.25 | kenlyric | this one is just not wow-based. |
| 21:13.27 | cncfanatics | typical him fyi btw :p |
| 21:13.27 | dylanm | Interesting. |
| 21:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: indeed |
| 21:13.48 | MoonWitch | anyone know which project? |
| 21:13.48 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 21:13.49 | NightHawkTheSane | but then, thats not specific to him, either |
| 21:13.50 | aestil | none of these cooldown mods have wiki's |
| 21:13.52 | Tuller | i'm sortof the same way, I go from one addon to another to another to another |
| 21:14.02 | Tuller | except in circles |
| 21:14.06 | kenlyric | i just figured more people than he did work on cart cause, you know, big time mod? |
| 21:14.09 | MoonWitch | Tuller - I got from addon idea to idea since usually it's already been done |
| 21:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I do it all the time to. The difference is I don't release my projects before moving to a new one. :P |
| 21:14.13 | Kemayo | Oh yeah. It's a fairly typical coder pattern. |
| 21:14.15 | FireAllianceNX | Well, I hope I don't have to go back to Gatherer *shudder* |
| 21:14.16 | cncfanatics | I maintain one addon, and stick to it :p |
| 21:14.28 | cncfanatics | haven't started on any addons since I took FB |
| 21:14.37 | kenlyric | all those map addons I'd have to get. |
| 21:14.39 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: a number of people work on cart modules, but i dont know that anyoen really does much with the core |
| 21:14.42 | kenlyric | fog and shit. |
| 21:14.54 | MoonWitch | there's a cart module called shit??? |
| 21:14.56 | MoonWitch | woooaaah |
| 21:15.07 | FireAllianceNX | I can live without Fog, keeps it real... lol |
| 21:15.07 | kenlyric | yeah, that treasure one. |
| 21:15.08 | dylanm | I wonder when he'll hit 70 and be able to get all the mileage out of his stuff. |
| 21:15.20 | cncfanatics | dylanm, huh ? |
| 21:15.24 | Cyrez | lol |
| 21:15.29 | FireAllianceNX | lol |
| 21:15.33 | kenlyric | death waypoints |
| 21:15.36 | dylanm | cncfanatics: ck. He's level 50-something. |
| 21:15.47 | kenlyric | mailboxes! |
| 21:15.50 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: about the asme time he gets around to fixing all those lingering bugs and quirks in his addons? |
| 21:16.11 | cncfanatics | dylanm, ckk ? ah, he never levels :p |
| 21:16.58 | MoonWitch | I can't do it .. i can not code a site in DW ... |
| 21:16.59 | FireAllianceNX | Does anyone have a recommendation to replace "CharacterInfo"? |
| 21:17.15 | FireAllianceNX | MoonWitch: What do you use then? |
| 21:17.22 | *** join/#wowace Nife (n=Nife@c-24-99-214-88.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 21:17.27 | MoonWitch | FireAllianceNX notepad++ |
| 21:17.32 | FireAllianceNX | hehe |
| 21:17.34 | Kemayo | Heresy! SciTE! |
| 21:17.35 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 21:17.36 | MoonWitch | or normal notepad if I am not on my machine |
| 21:17.37 | cncfanatics | gvim wins the world |
| 21:17.38 | cncfanatics | GVIM |
| 21:17.39 | cncfanatics | GVIM |
| 21:17.43 | MoonWitch | ScIte is awesome too |
| 21:17.53 | Kemayo | Let the circular firing squad commence. |
| 21:17.55 | MoonWitch | in linux vi lol |
| 21:17.56 | FireAllianceNX | I need my tags colored or I'd go blind faster. |
| 21:18.02 | MoonWitch | same here Fire |
| 21:18.39 | dylanm | Textmate holla |
| 21:18.43 | MoonWitch | i have php designer which is handy, don't have to start my server up for testing |
| 21:18.45 | *** join/#wowace [KzM]Fatalis (i=fatalisd@24-207-251-247.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 21:19.02 | dylanm | Speaking of servers being up... |
| 21:19.17 | CIA-4 | 03stan * r54535 10cyCircled_VolM/cyCircled_VolM.toc: |
| 21:19.17 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_VolM: |
| 21:19.17 | CIA-4 | - TOC update for 2.3 |
| 21:19.17 | Kemayo | I love vi, but I can't get the hang of using it for major work. It's wonderful for maintenance and improvements, but for major changes I can't live without mouse-selection. |
| 21:19.23 | CWW256 | THey just started commng up |
| 21:19.23 | CIA-4 | 03stormfx * r54536 10cyCircled_Vol/ (. cyCircled_Vol.toc embeds.xml skins.lua): |
| 21:19.23 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_Vol: |
| 21:19.23 | CIA-4 | - ToC Update. |
| 21:19.23 | CIA-4 | - Removed externals (don't need 'em!) |
| 21:19.25 | cturner | emacs > vi |
| 21:19.30 | Orionshock | question> whats the easiest way to find out what addons use a perticular lib? |
| 21:19.32 | Orionshock | ofc out of game |
| 21:19.37 | cncfanatics | Kemayo, gvim has mouse selection ? |
| 21:19.47 | cncfanatics | check its externals, Orionshock |
| 21:19.50 | cturner | vi is for editing .bashrc; emacs is for editing bash.c :) |
| 21:19.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: i think if i could remember all the damn commands, i could get used to it. |
| 21:19.57 | dylanm | cncfanatics: He wants a reverse search, I think. |
| 21:19.57 | FireAllianceNX | Why is Cart1's ToC updated and not Cart2 lol |
| 21:20.03 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: i know, but what's the fastest way to go about that |
| 21:20.05 | *** kick/#wowace [cturner!n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk] by hyperChipmunk (begone, heathen) |
| 21:20.08 | Spiffy | SERVERS ARE COMING UP |
| 21:20.09 | Zhinjio | 4 realms listed in US |
| 21:20.12 | Orionshock | there is some 1000 folders in the trunk |
| 21:20.13 | *** join/#wowace cturner (n=chip@pdpc/supporter/silver/cturner) |
| 21:20.17 | Kemayo | cncfanatics: Quite possibly. But I use vi pretty much exclusively through ssh. |
| 21:20.19 | hyperChipmunk | whups |
| 21:20.22 | hyperChipmunk | finger slipped |
| 21:20.23 | MoonWitch | Fire - Cart1 is maintained by someone else |
| 21:20.33 | MoonWitch | lolo hyperChipmunk |
| 21:20.35 | FireAllianceNX | ohh |
| 21:20.38 | cturner | hyperChipmunk: :P |
| 21:20.40 | FireAllianceNX | I slow. |
| 21:21.03 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Ah, forgot you weren't in insert mode, huh? |
| 21:21.10 | Aeyan | Orionshock, I know there's search programs that can read inside text files. Find one that'll do TOC too, and do that. =P |
| 21:21.13 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: you can export X windows over ssh too |
| 21:21.28 | FireAllianceNX | grep it Aeyan :P |
| 21:21.51 | cncfanatics | Kemayo, you realize you can get X through SSH right ? |
| 21:22.04 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:22.15 | Kemayo | Yes, but it's a pain, and I always SSH in from windows machines. :P |
| 21:22.26 | MoonWitch | Kemayo I do the same LOL |
| 21:22.38 | Toadkiller | GVIM, oh man i think im gonna go throw up |
| 21:22.40 | hyperChipmunk | then you got more problems than editors on your hands >8p |
| 21:22.54 | MoonWitch | very true lol |
| 21:23.02 | Kemayo | I <3 screen. |
| 21:23.05 | MoonWitch | but currently due to hard drive issues, I can not run dual boot |
| 21:23.06 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 21:23.15 | cncfanatics | I don't run dual boot here |
| 21:23.16 | Orionshock | guess XLoot is the only addon that uses AnchorsAway |
| 21:23.20 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 21:23.20 | cncfanatics | just plain debian without any windows around |
| 21:23.42 | Zhinjio | servers are coming up in "Locked" state. |
| 21:23.47 | MoonWitch | I swore by Fedora |
| 21:23.47 | hyperChipmunk | even my parents use linux |
| 21:23.54 | MoonWitch | what's locked state about? |
| 21:23.58 | JoshBorke | i can't install ubuntu |
| 21:24.02 | JoshBorke | the graphical installer doesn't boot |
| 21:24.10 | Zhinjio | can't login yet. |
| 21:24.12 | FireAllianceNX | use text one? |
| 21:24.13 | Orionshock | you can export an XWindows session over SSH onto a windows OS |
| 21:24.13 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, get debian tbh |
| 21:24.14 | hyperChipmunk | use the text one |
| 21:24.16 | cncfanatics | and use text |
| 21:24.21 | cturner | hyperChipmunk: mine did til I got them a mac. love means never having to explain CUPS |
| 21:24.22 | JoshBorke | i tried the failsafe boot |
| 21:24.24 | hyperChipmunk | Orionshock: yeah, but not natively |
| 21:24.27 | Kemayo | The only thing keeping me on windows at the moment is games. I haven't felt like investing the time in configuring wine and researching performance stuff. |
| 21:24.29 | JoshBorke | but i didn't know what to run to start the installer |
| 21:24.30 | hyperChipmunk | cturner: ugh |
| 21:24.32 | Orionshock | um.... |
| 21:24.32 | MoonWitch | I can't with mandrake .. error about my graphics card. I can only use the cli |
| 21:24.34 | Orionshock | ya? |
| 21:24.37 | Orionshock | cygbin |
| 21:24.41 | JoshBorke | if it doesn't work with me just plugging it in and going, i can't be arsed to set it up |
| 21:24.42 | hyperChipmunk | don't even start me on printers |
| 21:24.46 | Toadkiller | Sweet! I have been assigned to Blackrock. One moment while I rerolll & level from scratch ... |
| 21:24.47 | MoonWitch | kemayo same here and photoshop/illustrator/flash |
| 21:25.10 | CIA-4 | 03archarodim * r54537 10Decursive/Decursive.toc: |
| 21:25.10 | CIA-4 | Decursive: |
| 21:25.10 | CIA-4 | - TOC to 20300 |
| 21:25.12 | Orionshock | *cygwin |
| 21:25.18 | cturner | hyperChipmunk: digital data inherently resists being forced into analog states. ergo, printing always has been and always will be a terrible pain in the ass. |
| 21:25.19 | FireAllianceNX | oooo |
| 21:25.30 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 21:25.33 | CIA-4 | 03stormfx * r54538 10cyCircled_GoldOrbs/ (. cyCircled_GoldOrbs.toc skins.lua): |
| 21:25.33 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_GoldOrbs: |
| 21:25.33 | CIA-4 | - ToC Update. |
| 21:25.33 | CIA-4 | - Removed externals (don't need 'em!) |
| 21:25.35 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, u rerolling ? |
| 21:25.44 | MoonWitch | if cnc would help me at some point getting wow (and steam+ its games) to run under linux I'd be happy |
| 21:25.46 | Orionshock | cygwin + PuTTY |
| 21:25.52 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, sure |
| 21:25.53 | Kemayo | Orionshock: You can't do it without installing something on whatever random windows machine you use. |
| 21:26.01 | MoonWitch | printing in linux hurts me |
| 21:26.03 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 21:26.03 | Orionshock | So? |
| 21:26.08 | Toadkiller | nah just a joke. Although at the rate the top horde raiding guilds on my server are keeling over I should move servers |
| 21:26.10 | Lukian | lol all the realms up are "population: locked" |
| 21:26.15 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, EU or US ? |
| 21:26.19 | Toadkiller | US |
| 21:26.21 | cncfanatics | damn you |
| 21:26.22 | Kemayo | Granted, this is true for PuTTY as well. But you don't really _install_ PuTTY. |
| 21:26.25 | cncfanatics | go EU & reroll on kazzak |
| 21:26.27 | Toadkiller | im on PST |
| 21:26.28 | FireAllianceNX | Silver Hand = Queue lmao |
| 21:26.37 | cncfanatics | kazzak is queueless but at full populace :) |
| 21:26.39 | cncfanatics | and has ownish guilds |
| 21:26.40 | Toadkiller | Oh hell no, I like my 40ms pings |
| 21:26.41 | kenlyric | Kemayo: what? |
| 21:26.43 | Kemayo | MoonWitch: Ubuntu is my print server nowadays. |
| 21:26.45 | kenlyric | I install putty |
| 21:26.54 | MoonWitch | to me some are up .. Max (Queued) |
| 21:26.54 | cncfanatics | anyway, going to bed, nn |
| 21:26.55 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 21:26.58 | MoonWitch | nn cncfanatics |
| 21:27.21 | Kemayo | kenlyric: You just need to download it and it works. It's not like cygwin or other things that let you get X. |
| 21:27.22 | *** join/#wowace `Zypher (n=zypher@adsl-69-109-122-214.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 21:27.31 | kenlyric | http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty-0.60-installer.exe |
| 21:27.37 | kenlyric | see, installer! |
| 21:27.45 | `Zypher | lol |
| 21:28.03 | kenlyric | it even makes a registry change. |
| 21:28.08 | FireAllianceNX | w00t, one of my server is up :P |
| 21:28.17 | xerawx | omg keyloggaaar |
| 21:28.20 | kenlyric | associates ppk files with putty |
| 21:28.21 | xerawx | registry haxx |
| 21:28.30 | `Zypher | wtb korgath |
| 21:28.32 | Kemayo | kenlyric: Pedant. :P |
| 21:28.52 | Pkekyo | how's patch 2.3? :) |
| 21:28.55 | kenlyric | even wow doesn't do that :) |
| 21:29.06 | xerawx | <3 how they lock the realms that would otherwise get spammed to death with whining lvl 1 gnome alts |
| 21:29.15 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 21:29.24 | Pkekyo | let me get this straight...in english 'impregnate' means to make someone pregnant, no? |
| 21:29.40 | Toadkiller | pkek not really no |
| 21:29.51 | Toadkiller | It has multiple meanings |
| 21:29.51 | hyperChipmunk | Pkekyo: or to enter |
| 21:29.51 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: yes. |
| 21:29.52 | `Zypher | yes |
| 21:29.54 | NightHawkTheSane | thats one of its meanings, but not the only one |
| 21:29.55 | CIA-4 | 03stan * r54539 10cyCircled_VolM/ (cyCircled_VolM.toc embeds.xml skins.lua): |
| 21:29.55 | CIA-4 | cyCircled_VolM: |
| 21:29.55 | CIA-4 | - small code update |
| 21:29.56 | hyperChipmunk | forcibly |
| 21:30.04 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict impregnate |
| 21:30.06 | LetheKai|AFK | Means to put something in something else, generally. |
| 21:30.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 2 impregnate |
| 21:30.14 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/impregnate |
| 21:30.15 | FireAllianceNX | i wish CT_Mail's Alt+Click is working on the new version >.< |
| 21:30.20 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 3 impregnate |
| 21:30.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 4 impregnate |
| 21:30.35 | Fisker- | you're getting pwnt hyperChipmunk |
| 21:30.38 | Pkekyo | in norwegian it's how you make shoes waterproof O.o kinda threw me off |
| 21:30.40 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 5 impregnate |
| 21:30.47 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 6 impregnate |
| 21:30.51 | LetheKai|AFK | rofl Pkekyo, that's a huge difference. |
| 21:30.54 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 7 impregnate |
| 21:30.56 | KarlThePagan | heh... breaking news still says maint extended for 2 hours... but now the start time is 2:00pm |
| 21:30.58 | FireAllianceNX | we get the point... lol |
| 21:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 8 impregnate |
| 21:31.01 | hyperChipmunk | lol @ 7 |
| 21:31.03 | Pkekyo | LetheKai|AFK: that's what threw me off lol |
| 21:31.07 | kenlyric | what do you make them waterproof with? |
| 21:31.18 | Fisker- | is the servers up yet? |
| 21:31.20 | Fisker- | on the us |
| 21:31.22 | Fisker- | in* |
| 21:31.23 | FireAllianceNX | KarlThePagan: Welcome to an hour ago ^^ |
| 21:31.31 | Pkekyo | traditionally, it's fat or some other kinde of greasy shit, kenlyric |
| 21:31.31 | hyperChipmunk | just 4 |
| 21:31.32 | Zhinjio | 4 servers so far, all Lockewd. |
| 21:31.34 | FireAllianceNX | Fisker-: Mine is up :P |
| 21:31.44 | xerawx | 4 servers appear on the US list but they seem to be testing with those.. |
| 21:31.46 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: it's zebra cum. |
| 21:31.47 | Fisker- | know zul'aman reset yet? :D |
| 21:31.56 | FireAllianceNX | Zhinjio: I think it's locked if you don't have a toon on there |
| 21:31.59 | kenlyric | so, now it makes sense. |
| 21:32.00 | Toadkiller | 1 on Eu |
| 21:32.05 | KarlThePagan | FireAllianceNX, did you miss my math? an hour ago it was down 2 extra hours uptime at 1pm (not 2pm) |
| 21:32.05 | MoonWitch | no you can make a toon |
| 21:32.07 | Zhinjio | ah, that could be. |
| 21:32.14 | MoonWitch | you just have to wait the queue |
| 21:32.15 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: negative, I repeat; negative. no zebras here |
| 21:32.16 | MoonWitch | I just did that |
| 21:32.17 | cturner | was it ever confirmed if kara's reset timer was going to change in this patch? I couldn't find anything concrete on it, but multiple people seem to be spreading the meme |
| 21:32.31 | Fisker- | cturner it's not |
| 21:32.34 | Zhinjio | don't believe so, cturner. |
| 21:32.40 | FireAllianceNX | KarlThePagan: I don't know, it just seems forever ^^ |
| 21:32.42 | Fisker- | atleast not officially |
| 21:32.46 | Toadkiller | cturner: I hereby confirm it |
| 21:33.07 | cturner | that's what I thought. was it stated it would be someday? or are people just spreading stupid rumors like they always do? :) |
| 21:33.22 | Fisker- | it was probably more stated that it wouldn't |
| 21:33.29 | *** join/#wowace Keya (n=pschrine@xdsl-213-196-241-69.netcologne.de) |
| 21:33.35 | *** join/#wowace Lukian (n=wizard@203.171.70.21) |
| 21:33.37 | Kemayo | Pkekyo: Looks like Norwegian is using def. 5, then. |
| 21:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | new batch of servers just went up |
| 21:33.39 | Zhinjio | 15 realms listed now |
| 21:33.46 | Orionshock | well the Region Servers are up so they are atleast done with the bulk of the patch |
| 21:33.51 | hyperChipmunk | about 17 |
| 21:33.53 | Toadkiller | KAra cant really be shortened, it would screw up first timers in there |
| 21:34.10 | Orionshock | they still got the Battlegroup Interlink to bring up |
| 21:34.25 | Pkekyo | ~dict infuse |
| 21:34.38 | Pkekyo | Kemayo: guess you're right |
| 21:34.43 | Chexsum | omg relms are coming up |
| 21:34.53 | Lukian | Chexsum, old news |
| 21:34.59 | Chexsum | oh |
| 21:35.00 | kenlyric | monthsbehind |
| 21:35.07 | Obelixprime | boring work is boring |
| 21:35.17 | hyperChipmunk | hyperactiveChipmunk is awesome |
| 21:35.22 | Chexsum | ive been reading some comic someone listed in here 3 hours ago lol |
| 21:35.37 | aestil | maybe i'll just keep failing at using my icon every 2 minutes. |
| 21:36.14 | aestil | is it just like 1 battlegroup thats back up? |
| 21:36.18 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@cpe-67-9-165-7.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Chexsum: xkcd? :D |
| 21:37.10 | cturner | hahaha, lvl1 cows everywhere in mulgore on kilrogg |
| 21:37.11 | Orionshock | Silver Hand is showing as up , that's the LA-DC |
| 21:37.13 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 21:37.32 | ulic | I'm logged into Lightbringer right now. |
| 21:38.10 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-32-175-101.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:38.12 | *** join/#wowace Arzach-DB-EU (n=Arzach__@85-18-66-24.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 21:38.14 | Orionshock | Seattle DC |
| 21:38.30 | Toadkiller | roflcopter, rolled a lvl 1 BE pally on Eldre'Thalas, there is a shit ton of peeps at start |
| 21:38.54 | cturner | is there a map of server <-> physical datacenter location anywhere? that would be awesome |
| 21:39.05 | FireAllianceNX | w00t, addon errors <3 |
| 21:39.11 | Arzach-DB-EU | US realms are being patched now ? |
| 21:39.16 | NivFreak | wow, realms are up |
| 21:39.19 | Kody- | Yes |
| 21:39.24 | Arzach-DB-EU | nice |
| 21:39.32 | Orionshock | LOL the 2 servers i play on are in the LA-DSC, and im in AZ, no wonder i get 40ping and my ausie guild gets 400ping |
| 21:39.36 | LetheKai|AFK | PvP-RP realms are hiding. |
| 21:39.36 | Arzach-DB-EU | we got still 5h of 2.2.x |
| 21:39.48 | Arzach-DB-EU | Hyper, you here ? |
| 21:39.56 | LetheKai|AFK | AZ here too Orion but on an east coast server. -_- 170 - 200ms ping. |
| 21:40.14 | FireAllianceNX | w00t, one of my main server is up later :D |
| 21:40.21 | Orionshock | wootz nagrand is up |
| 21:40.28 | Orionshock | BOO |
| 21:40.34 | Orionshock | and game crash on PEW |
| 21:40.37 | hyperChipmunk | Arzach-DB-EU: sup |
| 21:41.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.55 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 21:41.59 | *** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@238.252.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 21:42.43 | Toadkiller | dammit why is cartographer trying to index field playermodel when it is clearly nil? |
| 21:42.55 | aestil | so, should i be disabling EBB's? they didn't work right the one time I went on PTR |
| 21:43.10 | kenlyric | Toadkiller: cause cart is broken? |
| 21:43.36 | Orionshock | only 5 errors |
| 21:43.52 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: im looking into a check.. |
| 21:44.19 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ecole (n=nospam@155.31.172.71) |
| 21:44.27 | ulic | haha, guild bank controls are wonky, it keeps randomly changing to display the info for the second highest rank. |
| 21:44.30 | Orionshock | LOL: |
| 21:44.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 21:44.31 | Orionshock | attempt to call a nil value: |
| 21:44.33 | Orionshock | (tail call): ?: |
| 21:44.35 | Orionshock | (tail call): ?: |
| 21:45.01 | Orionshock | Blame = EBB |
| 21:45.40 | *** join/#wowace Bibi_ (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-55-211.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:46.10 | MoonWitch | my bugsack is gone lol |
| 21:46.22 | Orionshock | put in a GM ticket |
| 21:47.04 | Orionshock | BTW All, if you comment out line 755 in cartographer, it still works |
| 21:47.15 | Orionshock | @least it didn't asplode |
| 21:47.34 | Ozguli | I hope everything works tomorrow |
| 21:48.24 | Orionshock | Ozguli: out of spite , no it's all going to aspode on you and some how delete your account |
| 21:48.26 | Orionshock | :D |
| 21:49.00 | Ozguli | omg! |
| 21:49.38 | Kemayo | Xming! |
| 21:49.52 | Lukian | Orionshock, what's comment in lua? -- |
| 21:49.58 | Trae | new cart out and anyone got URL for download. digging on site and can't find it for some reason. (brain fart I'm sure) |
| 21:49.59 | ulic | yea |
| 21:50.02 | Orionshock | yep |
| 21:50.03 | Kemayo | Um, I mean, it really did take me that long to remember my preferred X server for windows. |
| 21:50.27 | Arcaia | what is on line 755 |
| 21:50.46 | Orionshock | tho EBB shit a brick about the new tracking thing |
| 21:50.51 | Orionshock | and shit a brick hard |
| 21:52.03 | aestil | ebb being broken sucks. |
| 21:52.18 | aestil | i have tracking blacklisted though, i wonder if i'll be ok. |
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| 21:52.56 | cturner | woot! my main server is up |
| 21:53.00 | Kemayo | Under the new tracking thing do you still have to choose between different types of tracking? |
| 21:53.09 | Ozguli | woot! my main server isn't even down yet |
| 21:53.20 | Arcaia | and what is the comment syntax for lua |
| 21:53.24 | Orionshock | Kemayo: ya |
| 21:53.34 | Orionshock | any way to macro it? |
| 21:53.35 | Kemayo | Arcaia: self.playerModel:SetFrameLevel(self.playerModel:GetFrameLevel()+5) |
| 21:53.39 | Kemayo | Arcaia: and -- |
| 21:54.03 | Xuerian | AKX: Whar be the best place to get last functional chatr version? |
| 21:54.09 | Orionshock | OMG |
| 21:54.25 | Orionshock | server isn't up not 1hr and ppl allready have the eng flying mount |
| 21:54.29 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 21:54.35 | AKX | Xuerian, uh, the one on ui.worldofwar.net (if there still is any) worked with the last version I've played. |
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| 21:54.53 | AKX | Oh, wait, Tuesday.. Patch day? |
| 21:54.58 | genetik- | heh.. i've had the mats for my flying mount since the day they were announced |
| 21:55.18 | Xuerian | AKX: Welcome to the conversation. I see you've missed the last six hours. |
| 21:55.41 | AKX | Yeah, well, I can't fix Chatr (if it doesn't work,as I assume) until tomorrow |
| 21:55.44 | Xuerian | Orionshock: Damn them |
| 21:55.50 | Xuerian | Afaik, it works |
| 21:55.54 | AKX | Well |
| 21:55.57 | Xuerian | Just trying to update my non-ace addons |
| 21:56.13 | Orionshock | Non-Ace Addons? |
| 21:56.17 | Orionshock | Blasphemy |
| 21:56.25 | Cyrez | Fizzwidget FTW. |
| 21:56.26 | Xuerian | Orionshock: I'd make it, but that means I'd have to go 300->350 eng today, which seriously detracts from getting epic flier >:( |
| 21:56.50 | Arcaia | btw - buy all your time cards online - cheaper - faster - and energy efficient! |
| 21:56.55 | kenlyric | fucking goddamn recount. |
| 21:56.57 | AKX | Xuerian: http://akx.ath.cx/Chatr-13112007.zip |
| 21:57.08 | kenlyric | every time I load without out-of-date turned on, it resets to the middle of the screen. |
| 21:57.37 | FireAllianceNX | yikes, Bongos broke my Chaman2 |
| 21:57.42 | Xuerian | AKX: Excellent, what I already have |
| 21:57.53 | kenlyric | hah, corkfu uses compostlib |
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| 21:58.07 | CIA-4 | 03gruk * r54540 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc: |
| 21:58.07 | CIA-4 | FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc |
| 21:58.07 | CIA-4 | -- |
| 21:58.07 | CIA-4 | Updated .toc to 20300 |
| 21:58.08 | Tuller | FireAllianceNX: chaman2? |
| 21:58.11 | Orionshock | ok what do u not do when in ZA that gets you saved for no reason? |
| 21:58.25 | Xinhuan | have everyone in the raid NOT talk to the NPC |
| 21:58.28 | FireAllianceNX | Tuller: It's a totem timer/set mod with other shaman timers |
| 21:58.29 | Xinhuan | at the start of the instance |
| 21:58.31 | breser | Orionshock: If you start the event then it saves you. |
| 21:58.36 | Xinhuan | he opens the door and starts the 20 min timed event |
| 21:58.37 | Orionshock | where? |
| 21:58.46 | Xinhuan | he's like.. right at the start of the instance |
| 21:58.48 | kenlyric | nice. They randomly turned on two of my bars. |
| 21:58.50 | Xinhuan | after you zone in |
| 21:58.51 | kenlyric | wtf. |
| 21:59.06 | FireAllianceNX | Tuller: Recently Ace'd, and I guess it's using Action Bars to do its bidding lol |
| 21:59.08 | Arcaia | Cruel Barb got an updated graphic!!!! |
| 21:59.09 | Arcaia | wtf. |
| 21:59.09 | Xinhuan | if you talk to him, start the 20 min event, you can't undo it |
| 21:59.18 | Xinhuan | you only get ONE chance at the timed event per reset |
| 21:59.22 | Xuerian | Arcaia: zomglink |
| 21:59.30 | Xinhuan | hence starting it will save you |
| 21:59.35 | Pkekyo | meh, Ocean's 13 is off to a lamearse start |
| 21:59.36 | Arcaia | its a silver looking scimatar type thing ... |
| 21:59.38 | FireAllianceNX | omg I have to leave for class >.> |
| 21:59.50 | Orionshock | EBB -- |
| 22:00.02 | Orionshock | MiniMapTrackingFrame -> MiniMapTracking |
| 22:00.06 | Xuerian | Arcaia: Wasn't that what it already was? |
| 22:01.14 | kenlyric | yeah, hide tracking icon is broken in SMM too. to be expected. |
| 22:01.31 | balstor | I need an addon that timestamps the chat lines, right now i'm using ctmod for at any ideas????? |
| 22:01.58 | kenlyric | ah, missing party/raid buffs. |
| 22:02.04 | kenlyric | nuts to that, gogogrid |
| 22:02.08 | Xuerian | balstor: Prat is the common favorite. There's a simplechatmods too |
| 22:02.23 | LetheKai|AFK | Wow, that's a lot of out of date addons. |
| 22:02.30 | Orionshock | you can fly out of SMC to the real world now ?? |
| 22:02.32 | Orionshock | the hell? |
| 22:02.36 | balstor | i tried prat once, didn't like it let me try that simplechatmods |
| 22:02.39 | Xuerian | Who what? 0_o |
| 22:03.02 | Ozguli | smc as in? |
| 22:03.03 | Xuerian | balstor: You'll have to edit it by hand to change settings, afaik. It's simple for a reason |
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| 22:03.07 | Xuerian | smv mistype? |
| 22:03.42 | Ozguli | still doesn't make sense to me |
| 22:03.44 | Orionshock | Holy Shit |
| 22:03.50 | Orionshock | there is a Flight Point @ ZA! |
| 22:04.03 | [dRaCo] | always has been |
| 22:04.08 | Orionshock | Casting range from the Summoning stone |
| 22:04.52 | [dRaCo] | horde or alliance? |
| 22:04.56 | Orionshock | yes |
| 22:04.59 | Orionshock | gobblin |
| 22:05.05 | [dRaCo] | oh |
| 22:05.38 | xerawx | only thing i didnt really check out on the ptr is the new goblin town in dustwallow.. been saving that for my alt |
| 22:05.40 | cturner | yay repair bot recipe already |
| 22:05.56 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.00 | Orionshock | Harrison Jones |
| 22:06.28 | Health | Did anyone check Champion's Hall if you can buy Vindictator från start? |
| 22:06.35 | Orionshock | is it the ones that opens the doors right there that saves you? |
| 22:06.41 | Orionshock | so you can't even explore the instance? |
| 22:06.44 | Orionshock | wth? |
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| 22:07.54 | Xinhuan | Health: you should not be able to, because season 3 hasn't started |
| 22:08.11 | Health | Well, you could buy honor gear before s2 started |
| 22:08.27 | Xinhuan | because honor gear has always been available |
| 22:08.37 | Health | season 2 honor gear? :) |
| 22:08.40 | Cyrez | ElkBuffBars = B0rked |
| 22:08.42 | Health | The veteran |
| 22:08.52 | Xinhuan | season 2 honor gear? i doubt it |
| 22:09.17 | Health | I think the terms is a bit messed up.. I meant Veteran Gladiator |
| 22:09.23 | Health | Haha |
| 22:09.26 | Health | Just Veteran. |
| 22:09.28 | Chompers | 2/4 barriers down on vashj |
| 22:09.29 | Chompers | woop |
| 22:09.33 | stavmar | is there a fix for AddonLoader or is there another mod to use to turn them, my quartz is a no go at the moment? |
| 22:10.39 | aestil | just black list tracking cyrez |
| 22:10.58 | aestil | so, cartographer is borked until ckk bothers with it? or ois someone gonna fix it? |
| 22:11.05 | Xinhuan | you can just disable addonloader |
| 22:11.13 | Xinhuan | aestil, just comment out the broken line |
| 22:11.14 | CIA-4 | 03durcyn * r54541 10/ (branches/ElkBuffBars/2.2/ trunk/ElkBuffBars/): ElkBuffBars: move old version to branches |
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| 22:11.40 | Orionshock | d **woah cursors changed alot too |
| 22:11.42 | Orionshock | wth |
| 22:11.51 | Gnarfoz | ever bothered to read PTR patch notes? |
| 22:11.53 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-4 | 03archarodim * r54542 10Decursive/ (QuoiDeNeuf.txt WhatsNew.txt): |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-4 | Decursive: |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-4 | - WhatsNew.txt update for 2.0.4 release |
| 22:11.59 | Xinhuan | seeing as how ckknight hasn't made a commit in the last 30 days |
| 22:12.02 | Silowyi | 2007/11/13 16:09:49-1416-x293]: AceEvent-2.0-49307 (Ace2):735: Gratuity-2.0: attempt to call a nil value |
| 22:12.03 | Xinhuan | i doubt he will be fixing anything soon |
| 22:12.05 | Silowyi | any ideas? |
| 22:12.12 | CIA-4 | 03durcyn * r54543 10ElkBuffBars/: ElkBuffBars: copy 2.3 branch to trunk. caveat emptor. |
| 22:12.13 | Xinhuan | find the calling addon |
| 22:12.16 | KarlThePagan | Gnarfoz, oh come on... cursors were burried under all the good stuff :P |
| 22:12.24 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 22:12.28 | durcyn | Cyrez: try that... |
| 22:12.29 | Silowyi | Xinhuan that is the entire stack listed in bugsack |
| 22:12.31 | Gnarfoz | KarlThePagan: heh |
| 22:12.33 | Cyrez | <3 |
| 22:12.39 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 22:12.44 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: any idea if his addons are locked to his svn account? |
| 22:12.46 | Stan_ | ckk is lost in RL |
| 22:12.54 | Xinhuan | not locked |
| 22:12.56 | Stan_ | Gnarfoz: they are not |
| 22:12.59 | Chompers | a panda ate him |
| 22:13.00 | Xinhuan | people can commit to them |
| 22:13.22 | CIA-4 | 03durcyn * r54544 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.toc: ElkBuffBars oh, and bump the toc. |
| 22:13.24 | Orionshock | first ZA quest and you get a 20 slot bag |
| 22:13.25 | Orionshock | wtf |
| 22:13.26 | Gnarfoz | then, all will be fine once someone overcomes the shadow of his enormous ego :> |
| 22:13.32 | durcyn | Orionshock: you're a month behind |
| 22:13.39 | Gnarfoz | ckk's ego, that is |
| 22:13.40 | Orionshock | i know |
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| 22:13.58 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan: what unit frames do you use |
| 22:14.01 | Paene | Anyone know why Cryo2FoodButton:SetAttribute("shift-spell2", "Ritual of Refreshment") isn't working? |
| 22:14.03 | Aeyan | Pitbull |
| 22:14.22 | aestil | Xinhuan: i can do that, but everyone else? a whole guild of people? |
| 22:14.30 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 22:14.35 | Xinhuan | bad luck to all of them |
| 22:14.40 | aestil | thats not gonna work for my guild. |
| 22:14.44 | Paene | hm...do you have to register modifier keys for buttons? |
| 22:14.47 | Xinhuan | then bad luck for your guild members |
| 22:14.52 | Xinhuan | they must learn hwo to do it |
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| 22:15.01 | sb | yay |
| 22:15.04 | sb | azgolar down |
| 22:15.06 | Xinhuan | post specific instructions if yuo have to |
| 22:15.08 | sb | 1-4 in 1 id :o |
| 22:15.10 | Stan_ | ckknight said he has no problem with people editing his addons |
| 22:15.12 | Gnarfoz | azgalor? =) |
| 22:15.15 | kebinusan | seems addonloader might not be working either, postal doesnt load at the mailbox |
| 22:15.16 | sb | err yes |
| 22:15.22 | Kemayo | durcyn: You didn't actually change anything in trunk EBB. |
| 22:15.41 | Gnarfoz | Stan_: yeah I know, still, he and "his legacy" if he really is gone could kind of intimidate ppl ;> |
| 22:15.42 | Xinhuan | kebinusan, just disable addonloader |
| 22:15.47 | durcyn | Kemayo: eh? |
| 22:15.49 | kebinusan | oh might be load out of date addons |
| 22:15.51 | Xinhuan | all it does is delay addons from loading |
| 22:15.59 | Xinhuan | so if you disable it |
| 22:16.07 | Xinhuan | all addons load without being delayed |
| 22:16.37 | Stan_ | Gnarfoz: true..but people should stop being afraid of editing/patching his addons |
| 22:16.47 | nevcairiel | Finally, vashj dropped the healing mace |
| 22:16.50 | Xinhuan | its nto that people are afraid stan |
| 22:17.00 | Xinhuan | its more because his code is difficult to understand |
| 22:17.05 | Silowyi | hmm seems like it's either catographer or ebb |
| 22:17.06 | Gnarfoz | Stan_: they should, indeed, and it won't take long. the addons are too widely used for someone not to pick them up or at least fix them |
| 22:17.07 | Xinhuan | and uncommented |
| 22:17.10 | Silowyi | looks like ebb |
| 22:17.17 | Kemayo | durcyn: Check the log. |
| 22:17.19 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: grats |
| 22:17.23 | Stan_ | Gnarfoz: yup :) you can start right away :p |
| 22:17.31 | Gnarfoz | If I weren't in EU |
| 22:17.34 | Gnarfoz | and thus not patched |
| 22:17.34 | Xinhuan | plus we know what happened the last time someoen edited his parserlib |
| 22:17.37 | Gnarfoz | I would |
| 22:17.42 | Xinhuan | the end result is it forked 2 parserlibs |
| 22:17.58 | Gnarfoz | his parserlib? which one would that be? |
| 22:17.59 | Stan_ | lol rly? |
| 22:18.01 | Gnarfoz | parser2? |
| 22:18.34 | Kemayo | durcyn: Or, rather, it says that you copied the directory, but no files changed. |
| 22:19.04 | Xinhuan | parser-1.0 --> 1.1 and 3.0 |
| 22:19.19 | Kemayo | durcyn: Ahhh. I see, there weren't any changes made in the branch since it was branched. |
| 22:19.45 | Paene | Anyone know why SetAttribute("shift-spell2", "Ritual of Refreshment") might not be working? |
| 22:19.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: er, wha? |
| 22:19.55 | Xinhuan | dont' remember who |
| 22:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i dont think ck wrote 1.0/1.1, but did write 3.0, for some reason, no one else branched that? |
| 22:20.24 | Gnarfoz | ahh too much drama, I can't even remember all details of that event, but parser1 isn't even ace, and not written by ckk |
| 22:20.27 | LetheKai|AFK | Is there a way to move the new tracking thingy? It's in the top right corner of my screen and my minimap is bottom-middle (Squeenix). |
| 22:20.28 | Xinhuan | dont really care now |
| 22:20.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we have parser4 now, rofl |
| 22:20.36 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 22:20.40 | NightHawkTheSane | we do? |
| 22:20.48 | NightHawkTheSane | man, nevermind me then |
| 22:20.48 | Gnarfoz | if you want to, you can use it |
| 22:20.50 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:21.06 | rubik | 3 + 1 =4 |
| 22:21.11 | Gnarfoz | but you could also use the good 'ole parser-1.1 (I don't think 1.0 is in use anymore) |
| 22:21.14 | aestil | is ckk dead or something? |
| 22:21.18 | Gnarfoz | rubik: naw, 4 = 3 + rock |
| 22:21.25 | rubik | haha |
| 22:21.27 | Chompers | pandas |
| 22:21.38 | Stan_ | Gnarfoz: don't forget about the compat layer |
| 22:21.55 | Gnarfoz | Stan_: yeah, that... too |
| 22:22.00 | Gnarfoz | don't even start :^^ |
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| 22:22.13 | buu | Has ace melted down yet? |
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| 22:23.39 | Paene | Anyone |
| 22:23.43 | Paene | oops |
| 22:24.02 | Paene | Anyone know why SetAttribute("shift-spell2", "Ritual of Refreshment") wouldn't be working? The normal right-click works fine. |
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| 22:24.57 | Lukian | ugh Capping is broken |
| 22:25.00 | aestil | Xinhuan: if you know what line to edit, why doesn't someone comment that line out and push it to trunk? |
| 22:25.17 | Zhinjio | damnit. auth servers down again now. |
| 22:25.18 | Xinhuan | i'm only guessing that commenting out the broken line woudl work |
| 22:25.25 | Xinhuan | i haven't actually tried |
| 22:25.30 | Kemayo | Presumably because no-one knows yet whether or not that would subtly break anything else. |
| 22:25.36 | Silowyi | definitely ebb |
| 22:27.04 | Gnarfoz | I would, and be flamed for it, but EU servers are not even patched yet, so no what the problem is :> |
| 22:27.21 | Xinhuan | lucky you EU players... :) |
| 22:27.33 | Xinhuan | when you get the patch, all the addon issues would have already been mostly fixed! |
| 22:27.38 | Xinhuan | and comitted |
| 22:27.42 | Thursty | is there a fubar fix? |
| 22:27.56 | Thursty | or rock is it |
| 22:28.01 | Xinhuan | unlikely |
| 22:28.06 | Xinhuan | ckknight has gone MIA for a month |
| 22:28.25 | Thursty | sweet |
| 22:29.24 | Chompers | can i make Grid show me when people are in ghost form? |
| 22:29.48 | Xuerian | Geez, borked addons woo |
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| 22:30.30 | Chompers | no matter, it was in the list of debuffs |
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| 22:31.15 | Paene | Anyone know why SetAttribute("shift-spell2", "Ritual of Refreshment") wouldn't be working? The normal right-click works fine. |
| 22:31.19 | MoonWitch | well.. I need to redo the tracking stuff |
| 22:31.29 | MoonWitch | the icons are a touch bigger lol |
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| 22:31.56 | Xuerian | Geez, all CK's addons are broke. This is awesum. |
| 22:32.10 | stavmar | so what should wee use in place of EBB, a good replacement in the meantime? |
| 22:32.11 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: get to work! |
| 22:32.21 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: Going out to dinner first |
| 22:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: all of them? >< |
| 22:32.26 | MoonWitch | stavmar buffalo2 works fine |
| 22:32.29 | stavmar | ok |
| 22:32.43 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Let's see. No pitbull, no fubar, no parrot, no rock |
| 22:32.46 | Xuerian | No cowtip |
| 22:32.52 | JoshBorke | enable out of date addons n00b |
| 22:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, no rock implies.. no anything |
| 22:32.59 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: They are enabled >_o |
| 22:33.14 | kebinusan | Xuerian: they work fine for me |
| 22:33.49 | Xuerian | ..hm |
| 22:33.53 | Xuerian | how'd that happen >_> |
| 22:34.10 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: PWNED |
| 22:34.16 | Xuerian | Yeah, yeah |
| 22:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: .. wow. fail. :P |
| 22:34.26 | Xuerian | I'M SPEKSHUL >.o |
| 22:34.30 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 22:34.30 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 22:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | also, you almost gave me a heart attack. |
| 22:34.34 | Xuerian | :) |
| 22:35.17 | masanbol | ~flee |
| 22:35.17 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 22:35.45 | masanbol | so the issues with Cart and a few others are savedvars problems or something? |
| 22:36.05 | aestil | none of my addons are broke but ebb and cartographer. |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54545 10LibStickyFrames-1.0/ (LibStickyFrames-1.0.lua LibStickyFrames-1.0.toc): |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-4 | LibStickyFrames-1.0: |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-4 | -- * There is a StickyMode that is set via stickyModeFunc and LibStickyFrames:StickyMode() |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-4 | -- * For all participating frames in StickyMode: |
| 22:36.08 | CIA-4 | -- ** Frames are colored so they can be seen using standard colors in LibStickyFrames.Color* |
| 22:36.09 | CIA-4 | -- ** Snapping and sticking can be to some select Blizzard frames |
| 22:36.23 | MoonWitch | WOW AH scans go soo fast now :) |
| 22:36.28 | aestil | and if someone can comment out the line that lets cartographer work, and then update it, why wouldn't they? |
| 22:36.38 | Health | Anyone been to Champion's Hall yet? To see if they sell Vindicator gear yet? ;p |
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| 22:37.22 | sb | MoonWolf: mh - ace addons available? |
| 22:37.23 | Paene | Anyone know why the shift-click spell isn't working in this code? http://ace.pastey.net/77112 |
| 22:37.27 | sb | or 'manual' scans? |
| 22:37.29 | sb | or auctioneer? |
| 22:38.12 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54546 10AutoBar/libs/: |
| 22:38.12 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 22:38.12 | CIA-4 | -- Add PT3 Gear set so Trinkets can show up |
| 22:39.05 | MoonWitch | welllllll |
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| 22:39.15 | MoonWitch | AH scans with KCItems ... |
| 22:39.20 | ulic | looks like Elanko has EBB fixed in his 2.3 branch |
| 22:39.22 | MoonWitch | upon finish - WoW crash |
| 22:39.54 | masanbol | ulic: he put the 2.3 branch into trunk like 10 mins ago |
| 22:40.32 | Arrowmaster | that was durcyn |
| 22:40.34 | Anacleto | So, it is Cartographer the one disconnecting people? |
| 22:40.58 | aestil | lol |
| 22:41.03 | aestil | who's getting disconnected? |
| 22:41.07 | masanbol | i'm not seeing DCs with cart, but it's definately not working |
| 22:41.07 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: no, that was elkano |
| 22:41.07 | ulic | oh, I wasn't paying attention :) |
| 22:41.11 | durcyn | i just copied it to trunk fo rhim |
| 22:41.15 | durcyn | for* |
| 22:41.23 | Kemayo | ulic: It's possible. He didn't make any changes after the branching, though. |
| 22:41.23 | ulic | too busy trying to find the bugs |
| 22:41.38 | durcyn | the 2.3 branch worked on ptr, though |
| 22:41.39 | Anacleto | I am getting disconnected. As soon as I log. |
| 22:41.41 | kd3 | so, has elkbuffbar/cart been fixed? |
| 22:41.46 | masanbol | ebb has |
| 22:41.49 | Paene | No-one knows why my code won't work? |
| 22:41.54 | masanbol | nothing on cart yet |
| 22:41.58 | JoshBorke | you didn't code it right |
| 22:42.05 | Paene | duh |
| 22:42.10 | Kemayo | He may have used horrible branching proceedures and copied a modified working copy to the branch. I shudder to think of it. |
| 22:42.12 | kd3 | how about cowtip, still hearing issues with it |
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| 22:42.34 | Xuerian | Cowtip seems to be working good, addonloader, on the other hand |
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| 22:44.09 | Paene | So am I right that you can't have an actionbutton cast a spell on shift-click then? |
| 22:44.17 | durcyn | Kemayo: as long as zips are built out of trunk, we do what we must. |
| 22:44.37 | Kemayo | durcyn: That doesn't even relate to my complaint. :P |
| 22:44.38 | Xinhuan | Paene: maybe, JUST MAYBE, nobody knows the answer despite you asking 20 times |
| 22:45.08 | Paene | Xinhuan: Well, considering you're the first feedback I've gotten...how was I supposed to know I wasn't being ignored? |
| 22:45.24 | liquidzo1 | hrm...Cartographer is throwing up a strange error. Oh well, guess I'll wait for an update. |
| 22:45.39 | Xinhuan | as a rule of thumb, not gettign an answer means nobody knows |
| 22:45.41 | NightHawkTheSane | liquidzo1: heh, good luckwith that |
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| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54547 10AutoBar/ (18 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | -- 2.02.03.27 beta () |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | -- The Fire Resistance Totem --> Water Totems, Frost Resistance Totem --> Fire Totems |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | -- Cooldowns now working for spells. |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-4 | -- 6635 Earth Sapta |
| 22:47.15 | CIA-4 | -- AutoBarButtonClassPet: "Class Pet" for hunters mages shamans warlocks priests druids. |
| 22:47.20 | Anacleto | LibRock is spitting nicely as well. But I am sure the right person knows. |
| 22:48.06 | Xinhuan | Anacleto, everyone knows. but the author hasn't been around 1 month to fix it |
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| 22:48.20 | Erika | is anyone else getting ace2 error messages? |
| 22:48.24 | Anacleto | Ahh, darn! Thanks Xinhuan |
| 22:49.52 | khang_ | any nice compilations out there? |
| 22:49.57 | Gngsk | ugh, I wish they didn't keep the stupid loot sparkley on the quest objective |
| 22:50.03 | Gngsk | the original animation was 10 times better |
| 22:50.27 | khang_ | i don't recall a sparkly |
| 22:50.34 | Gngsk | you'll see it |
| 22:50.47 | masanbol | Does the Ace2 split of cart work? or is there anyone else working on the other version? |
| 22:51.09 | Gngsk | my carto works, but I fixed it |
| 22:51.20 | masanbol | mind sharing? haha |
| 22:51.26 | Gngsk | long time ago when ptr first came out, just copied it over from wowtest |
| 22:51.30 | Gngsk | no wai! |
| 22:51.34 | masanbol | D: |
| 22:52.44 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, wtb comments in cart's code. >< |
| 22:53.04 | khang_ | just wait until tommorow i guess |
| 22:53.24 | Gngsk | I wish someone would fix debuff filter |
| 22:53.30 | Gngsk | that and ebb are the only 2 things broken in my UI |
| 22:53.41 | NivFreak | armory is a bit messed up |
| 22:53.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: what did you do to fix your cart then? |
| 22:53.41 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:53.52 | khang_ | Gngsk, since you said that quest objective thing, i've gotten 3 drops in a row and now im done :) |
| 22:53.55 | NivFreak | one of my buddys has an alt priest with 5/1 holy nova in his talents |
| 22:53.55 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:54.07 | Gngsk | NightHawkTheSane, I don't recall it was like a month ago |
| 22:54.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: ... i hate you. diff your copy with a zip or something. :P |
| 22:54.31 | Gngsk | khang, I meant on world objects that are quest objectives. they added a loot sparkley animation if you have the quest for it |
| 22:54.36 | Anacleto | Gngsk: That was a "what", not a "when". |
| 22:54.52 | Gngsk | Anacleto, I dont' remember the "what" because of the "when". |
| 22:54.54 | Arrowmaster | im testing a carto fix right now |
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| 22:55.02 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54548 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc: |
| 22:55.02 | CIA-4 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 22:55.02 | CIA-4 | - toc change |
| 22:55.13 | Gngsk | NightHawkTheSane, my copy is really really old, non-rock so I dunno if it'd help you or not. |
| 22:55.21 | Anacleto | Gngsk: Makes sense. |
| 22:55.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: hm, *shrug* it might. I dont think the problem is rock related |
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| 22:55.49 | Gngsk | yah prolly not has to do with a change to the player arrow I recall now |
| 22:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I've ben mucking about in the code, if it wasn't so poorly commented and if i my wow-lua-fu didn't suck terribly.. i might maybe figure it out. ;) |
| 22:55.58 | starlon | lol Pitbull thinks I'm still in a raid I left 5 minutes ago. /rl didn't even fix it. |
| 22:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: yeah, i've tracked it down to that |
| 22:56.44 | Zhinjio | I do believe this is the final death of DUF. |
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| 22:58.21 | Gngsk | NightHawkTheSane, I think it might've been as easy as changing an inequality on a for loop or something |
| 22:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: yeah, i may actually have figured it out |
| 22:58.52 | Gngsk | cool |
| 22:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | "may" ;) |
| 22:59.09 | NightHawkTheSane | did i mention how bad my wowlua-fu is? :P |
| 22:59.13 | Arrowmaster | ok somebody figure out if PlayerArrowFrame or PlayerArrowEffectFrame is the correct model |
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| 22:59.36 | xyu` | hmm it's heroic ramparts daily where do i get it ? ^^ |
| 23:00.23 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r702 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/17_18_Loch_Modan.lua: TourGuide: small changes in this one |
| 23:00.23 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r703 10/trunk/ (58 files in 58 dirs): TOC update |
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| 23:01.02 | khang_ | what tourguide do? |
| 23:01.11 | wagoff | anyone know what the deal is with all the ace addons giving gratuity-2.0 errors? |
| 23:01.11 | Lukian | it's a quest guide |
| 23:01.25 | khang_ | oo |
| 23:01.28 | Lukian | wagoff, 2.3 was released, welcome to patch day |
| 23:01.37 | wagoff | ORLY? |
| 23:01.45 | Obelixprime | lol at everything broken |
| 23:03.08 | Gngsk | wagoff, you use elk buffbars? |
| 23:03.12 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r54549 10!AlarLib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): !AlarLib Update for WoW 2.3 |
| 23:03.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: well, PlayerArrowEffectFrame is theonly one with type "model" >.> |
| 23:03.24 | haste | alarlib D: |
| 23:03.25 | Arrowmaster | they both have type model |
| 23:03.45 | wagoff | yes i do |
| 23:03.47 | hyperChipmunk | lol@sitting on the flight goblin /pvp'ed |
| 23:03.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, really? it didn't look like it when i checked, but i might be wrong |
| 23:04.11 | hyperChipmunk | the horde are falling in droves |
| 23:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed, you're right, my bad. |
| 23:04.35 | hyperChipmunk | i'd shadowmeld, but even i'm not that evil |
| 23:05.41 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r54550 10AlarArtRemover/ (AlarArtRemover.lua AlarArtRemover.toc): AlarArtRemover Updated for WoW 2.3 |
| 23:05.48 | Wobwork | hyperChipmunk: I did that once |
| 23:05.56 | Wobwork | I blame the guy who came to the raid flagged |
| 23:06.21 | fitz__ | Happy Patch Day |
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| 23:06.45 | wagoff | Gngsk, is elk buffbars causing the problem? |
| 23:06.54 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r54551 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation Updated for WoW 2.3 |
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| 23:07.24 | hyperChipmunk | Wobwork: lol |
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| 23:07.37 | hyperChipmunk | it's amazing how many just click without looking |
| 23:07.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: bah, think you can pastey your entire cartographer.lua? :) |
| 23:07.58 | hyperChipmunk | and for th record, budd's bodyguards hit like a truck |
| 23:08.21 | fitz__ | sweet, wowjutsu's got our Lurker kill recorded |
| 23:08.39 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: the effect model seems to be transparentish |
| 23:08.47 | fitz__ | catapulted us, we're in the top 10 horde guilds on our server now woot |
| 23:09.15 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r54552 10AlarBGHelper/ (5 files): AlarBGHelper Updated for WoW 2.3 |
| 23:09.35 | CIA-4 | 03alar * r54553 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc AlarTTFrameSnap.lua): AlarTTFrame Updated for WoW 2.3 |
| 23:10.11 | aestil | so when people say his code is poorly commented, is it just that he doesn't leave notes as to what stuff does? or is it that he's not properly tabing and stuff like that, so it looks trashy? |
| 23:10.18 | Wobwork | I guess alarlib makes sense... |
| 23:10.21 | Wobwork | If you're alar |
| 23:10.29 | Wobwork | since you'd use -all- the mods |
| 23:10.42 | fitz__ | aestil, not leaving notes = poorly commented |
| 23:10.55 | Wobwork | aestil: trashy? *pictures code in thigh highs, tiny mini and boa* |
| 23:10.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: ahh, indeed. I figured out what i was doing wrong too. A linein LookNFeel.lua needed to be changed as well |
| 23:11.03 | fitz__ | aestil, badly indented, overlong lines and so on is more about formatting and cut'n'paste coding |
| 23:11.09 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 23:11.09 | aestil | Wobwork: i don't think code really has the legs for that though |
| 23:11.12 | Arrowmaster | i fixing it |
| 23:11.15 | NightHawkTheSane | cool :) |
| 23:11.19 | Wobwork | aestil: That's possiby why it looks trashy |
| 23:11.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just vaguely happy that i managed to figure it out more or less myself. |
| 23:11.28 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54554 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:11.28 | CIA-4 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:11.28 | CIA-4 | - 6635 Earth Sapta |
| 23:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: do you mean ck's? no, tabbing is fine. But looking through cartographer.lua there were no comments so you had no insight into what something was doing, or why it was doing it, aside from what you can glean from code. |
| 23:13.34 | Wobwork | Unfortunately, "The code is the comments" fails when the code gets overly complex |
| 23:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "the code is the comments" always fails for any non-trivial situtation |
| 23:13.53 | aestil | commenting code is always done, usually done, or is expected to be done? |
| 23:14.03 | Wobwork | expectde |
| 23:14.13 | Wobwork | Well, it's certainly "good practice" |
| 23:14.53 | NightHawkTheSane | its one of those things you do in case you disappear for a month and your project breaks. |
| 23:14.57 | NightHawkTheSane | *cough* |
| 23:15.01 | Wobwork | It's the bus factor |
| 23:15.05 | kebinusan | is ther ea fubar plugin for all this new trackign cruft |
| 23:15.17 | Gngsk | hmm, automaton auto vendor junk broken for anyone else? didn't notice this on ptr |
| 23:15.34 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r704 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/18_20_Redridge_Mountains.lua: TourGuide: small changes into Redridge |
| 23:16.06 | Chexsum | does anyone know what sound is used to tell you a spell isnt ready? its annoying with this patch |
| 23:16.14 | Gngsk | fizzle |
| 23:16.29 | Lukian | wtb builkmail update badly |
| 23:16.32 | Gngsk | there's a thread on removing the sound on EJ forums, search for fizzle |
| 23:16.44 | Chexsum | thanks |
| 23:16.49 | Xinhuan | there was one a few hours ago Lukian |
| 23:16.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Lukian: .. bulkmail seems to work fine for me? |
| 23:18.01 | hyperChipmunk | i updated not long ago |
| 23:18.12 | hyperChipmunk | it's working perfectly for me |
| 23:18.18 | Arzach-DB-EU | search for BulkMail2... I missed it out at first |
| 23:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail is still up there? |
| 23:18.48 | hyperChipmunk | 1? |
| 23:19.05 | hyperChipmunk | no, it isn't |
| 23:19.10 | Arzach-DB-EU | well, if you use autoupdater it will just... leave it there |
| 23:19.12 | Toadkiller | kebinusan dunno about fubar but there is an AUtoBar button for the tracking cruft |
| 23:19.28 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail1 is like pre-TBC |
| 23:20.10 | Lukian | I use v2 |
| 23:20.57 | hyperChipmunk | then all you need to do is update |
| 23:21.13 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, now someone needs to update SMM so i can move my tracking button again, i dont want to fix that too |
| 23:21.17 | hyperChipmunk | /bm about should say 2.3 |
| 23:22.06 | CIA-4 | 03treibh * r54555 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 23:22.06 | CIA-4 | BigBrother: |
| 23:22.06 | CIA-4 | - update to 20300 |
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| 23:22.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: i love you for your swift update to bm/bmi. |
| 23:22.55 | khang_ | bm? |
| 23:23.00 | NivFreak | "drives produced by a company sub-contract manufacturer located in China were reportedly sent out with the Virus.Win32.AutoRun.ah program already loaded. Apparently, the molar virus is one that get its kicks by searching for passwords to online games (World of Warcraft included) and sending them back to a server located in China, and as if that wasn't enough, it can also disable virus detection software and delete other molar viruses without breaking a sweat. |
| 23:23.06 | NivFreak | go seagate go! |
| 23:23.06 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: You just love Hyper for his bulk |
| 23:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: i do |
| 23:23.57 | Arrowmaster | ill update cartographer in a few |
| 23:24.11 | Lukian | 620: attempt to index global 'SendMailPackageButton' (a nil value). |
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| 23:24.39 | Sole | whats up yo |
| 23:25.30 | khang_ | i'm on the search for a new ui |
| 23:27.00 | Zhinjio | khang: i decided to redo mine with this patch. |
| 23:27.52 | Arzach-DB-EU | Arrowmaster: if you fix it, you'll save my day |
| 23:28.04 | Arrowmaster | i fixed it but im looking into another bug |
| 23:28.40 | Arzach-DB-EU | don't worry, you have still 11 hours to save my day... I'm on an Eu server |
| 23:29.23 | Pkekyo | Arzach-DB-EU: know when the EU servers will be back up? |
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| 23:30.27 | NeoTron | hyperChipmunk: so I take it bulkmail works with the new multi-item sending then? |
| 23:30.32 | Nefarion | ~seen ckknight |
| 23:30.36 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 12h 37m 49s ago, saying: 'cryogen, rawr'. |
| 23:30.46 | Nefarion | is anyone else's pitbull and cartographer tottally fucked with 2.3? |
| 23:31.24 | khang_ | Zhinjio, you should share :) |
| 23:31.37 | khang_ | actually, i might go and remake mine |
| 23:31.43 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.53 | khang_ | if only i knew how to use pitbull, i'd use it |
| 23:31.55 | NeoTron | I seem to recall having an issue getting waypoints to work |
| 23:32.11 | Zhinjio | I always do, khang. |
| 23:32.24 | khang_ | ;o okay |
| 23:32.30 | Arzach-DB-EU | Arrowmaster is fixing Cartographer. Pitbull... didn't seem to be too much hectic on PTR |
| 23:32.34 | Zhinjio | if curse manages to not be dead for too long, you might go search for older version on there. |
| 23:32.35 | Chexsum | i just tried to get rid of the Fizzle sound and it didnt work :(((( |
| 23:33.07 | Nefarion | just updated about 90 sec ago and both are fucked. cart's background is fullscreen while the map portion is the set scale, and is spits an error. and pitbull spits tons of error and is unusable (frames fubared) |
| 23:33.43 | khang_ | ;o |
| 23:33.45 | khang_ | i like Zhinjio |
| 23:33.53 | Nefarion | does anyone know if any versions of pit are working? and which? |
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| 23:34.10 | Lukian | Nefarion, delete the looknfeel module |
| 23:34.15 | Lukian | and comment out line 755 |
| 23:34.24 | khang_ | im more of the minimalist though |
| 23:34.26 | Arrowmaster | or just fucking wait |
| 23:34.34 | Nefarion | i'd rather go into fixing it. fullscreen map is one of the worst ideas ever. |
| 23:34.44 | Arrowmaster | i have it fixed |
| 23:34.46 | Nefarion | well arrow i'd like to play, and i rely on pitbull |
| 23:34.58 | Arrowmaster | just trying to fix something else in cart |
| 23:35.05 | Nefarion | k awesome man |
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| 23:35.19 | tcb|Juggz | how soon till Ace2 is back up for 2.3? |
| 23:35.37 | Nefarion | what do you mean? |
| 23:35.47 | tcb|Juggz | im flooded with Ace errors when i log in |
| 23:35.50 | tcb|Juggz | is there an update>? |
| 23:36.06 | Nefarion | it's more likely an addon. ace2's going perfectly for me. |
| 23:36.14 | tcb|Juggz | k ill read you the error |
| 23:36.21 | Arrowmaster | i logged in with 3 errors total, once from cart that im fixing, 1 from something caused by the minimap tracking change, and one from something i dont even use, not that bad of a patch day |
| 23:36.38 | aestil | Arrowmaster: EBB the tracking error? |
| 23:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: indeed. |
| 23:36.40 | Nefarion | addons use the libs so some errors show up as the libs' errors. get bugsack + !buggrabber |
| 23:36.49 | Arrowmaster | no my EBB is perfectly fine |
| 23:36.58 | Arrowmaster | because im still using EBB and not EBBs |
| 23:37.17 | tcb|Juggz | ag_unitframes/libs/Aveaddon2.0/aceaddon-2.0 lua 999 gratuity |
| 23:37.23 | tcb|Juggz | do i just shut down ag? |
| 23:37.45 | Arrowmaster | wtf is wrong with gratuity, i havent seen any errors yet |
| 23:37.59 | Nefarion | tcb|Juggz: no |
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| 23:38.19 | Nefarion | that the lib error, not ag. get bugsack *and* !buggrabber from the wau |
| 23:38.22 | Nefarion | or wowace site |
| 23:38.25 | Antiarc | Freezes are apparently on DR now |
| 23:38.26 | tcb|Juggz | suggestions? |
| 23:38.45 | Nefarion | seriously? wow. haha |
| 23:38.52 | Nefarion | i didn't hear about that from the ptr |
| 23:38.58 | tcb|Juggz | what do i do fix the error? |
| 23:39.18 | Nefarion | third time i'm saying it now: GET BUGSACK AND !BUGGRABBER |
| 23:39.22 | Nefarion | then give us the error |
| 23:39.33 | tcb|Juggz | ya i dont know what that is haha |
| 23:39.38 | Arzach-DB-EU | Nefarion: I'm on the PTR with Pitbull and it seems to be working |
| 23:39.39 | Nefarion | files.wowace.com |
| 23:39.47 | Nefarion | which version? |
| 23:40.35 | Arzach-DB-EU | latest from files.wowace.com |
| 23:40.38 | Nefarion | ahh my errors are dogtag error now, but i was getting pit ones too. and the frames are still dead. |
| 23:40.52 | tcb|Juggz | so i just put bugsack into my interface? |
| 23:41.00 | Nefarion | interface\addons |
| 23:41.05 | Nefarion | you need buggrabber too |
| 23:41.22 | Arzach-DB-EU | PitBull-r54194 |
| 23:41.43 | Arzach-DB-EU | I should try in a raid and party tho |
| 23:41.51 | Nefarion | hmm.. my errors are improper usage errors from dogtag. |
| 23:41.57 | Nefarion | did he update that but not pitbull to match? |
| 23:42.02 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54556 10Cryolysis2/ (Bindings.lua Bindings.xml Cryolysis2.lua): |
| 23:42.02 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:42.02 | CIA-4 | -Fixed Ritual of Refreshment for food/water buttons |
| 23:42.02 | CIA-4 | -Added a keybinding for Ritual of Refreshment |
| 23:42.02 | CIA-4 | -Changed water/food icons to show the texture for the highest water/food the mage has conjured. Highest possible if none conjured. |
| 23:42.06 | aestil | Arrowmaster: i like ebbs better : / |
| 23:42.07 | tcb|Juggz | i dont see buggrabber in the files.wowace.com |
| 23:42.19 | Nefarion | it's listed with a "!" before it |
| 23:42.28 | *** join/#wowace [KzM]Fatalis (i=fatalisd@24-207-251-247.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
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| 23:43.04 | NeoTron | ooh wowjutsu updated design |
| 23:43.05 | NeoTron | very cool |
| 23:43.06 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=skullsho@2002:4121:79ef:0:0:0:4121:79ef) |
| 23:43.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:43.28 | NeoTron | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/kilrogg/Adrenaline |
| 23:43.50 | Arzach-DB-EU | Nefarion: I don't use dogtag, prolly it's that one the bugged code |
| 23:44.04 | Nefarion | dogtag is pitbull's fontstring lib |
| 23:44.12 | tcb|Juggz | thanks nef no errors appreciate the help |
| 23:44.24 | Nefarion | there are errors, you just don't see them now |
| 23:44.32 | Nefarion | click the bugsack button on the minimap/fubar |
| 23:45.25 | tcb|Juggz | k clicked it |
| 23:47.55 | Bejitt | wth, wow disabled half my addons o_O |
| 23:48.04 | Shirik | it does that every patch... |
| 23:48.09 | Bejitt | not that |
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| 23:48.20 | Bejitt | i mean it -disabled- them |
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| 23:49.22 | Kerafyrm | grrr cartographer errors |
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| 23:49.24 | Wobwork | broke their spines? |
| 23:49.34 | Wobwork | amputated a limb? |
| 23:49.41 | *** part/#wowace emagdnim (n=mindgame@217.54.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:49.50 | Mudkips | halo again my hacker biotches |
| 23:50.06 | aestil | did someone say they commited a fix to ebbs? |
| 23:50.16 | Mudkips | how is patchday going? |
| 23:50.33 | aestil | tits |
| 23:52.09 | Mudkips | a cat is fine too |
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| 23:54.15 | Silowyi | so |
| 23:54.25 | Silowyi | apparently Curse helps out with the bandwidth for wowace |
| 23:54.37 | Silowyi | so how come every patch day, Curse goes bottoms up, and wowace is still there. |
| 23:55.11 | durcyn | because curse's site was designed by howler monkeys. |
| 23:55.15 | silentium | they are probably on different servers, just all paid by curse |
| 23:55.17 | Kemayo | Well, the wowace method as a whole involves a lot less http connections. |
| 23:55.25 | Mudkips | and maybe because curse is more popular |
| 23:55.45 | Silowyi | I guess they must not be hosted on the same servers then, just sharing a link. |
| 23:55.46 | Eldredd | Because all of the people who know nothing about Addons instantly go to curse where WoWAce is the majority of people who actually know somewhat "Maybe" what they are doing. |
| 23:55.53 | CIA-4 | 03arrowmaster * r54557 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua): Cartographer: replaced all references to unnamed player arrow model on worldmap to use both PlayerArrowFrame and PlayerArrowEffectFrame |
| 23:55.58 | Nefarion | fucking wow. my error was from a missing font file. |
| 23:56.02 | Mudkips | I agree with Eldredd |
| 23:56.16 | Arrowmaster | hope that didnt fuck anything up too much since i was getting a weird issue with svn diff before commiting |
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| 23:56.51 | Nefarion | thanks arrowmaster =D |
| 23:57.13 | Eldredd | Today has actually been smooth compared to typical with a large patch like this. Definitely props to everyone working their asses off on getting these addons fixed right off. |
| 23:57.17 | Kemayo | Aw, no more 3-badge Mech. |
| 23:57.42 | ulic | nope :( |
| 23:57.46 | Mudkips | what about mech?? |
| 23:57.58 | ulic | it just got one less badge now. |
| 23:58.02 | ulic | in heroic |
| 23:58.05 | Mudkips | and is postal totally useless now? |
| 23:58.11 | Kemayo | Mudkips: The two mini-boss things don't drop badges now, and there's one in the chest instead. |
| 23:58.16 | Shirik | or Eldredd, props to Blizzard |
| 23:58.21 | Shirik | there weren't THAT many ui changes... |
| 23:58.29 | Shirik | and those that were were mostly backwards compatible |
| 23:58.44 | Mudkips | I wish they made the sound like it use to be |
| 23:58.52 | Eldredd | Well, you can say bliz but there were a lot of people on here spending a lot of time on the PTR making sure everything worked. |
| 23:58.54 | Mudkips | my fps has never been so low :( |
| 23:59.18 | Chexsum | they reset video settings |
| 23:59.19 | Shirik | And there were a lot of people at Blizzard making sure that those people don't have to do a lot of work |
| 23:59.22 | Shirik | you don't give them enough credit |
| 23:59.35 | Wobwork | wtf? |
| 23:59.39 | Wobwork | worst Mech change EVER |
| 23:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Gagorian: have is drdamage been updated for the changes to LB and CL coefficients? |
| 23:59.51 | NeoTron | it IS a fair change |
| 23:59.59 | Nefarion | ...ns\Cartographer\Cartographer_LookNFeel\LookNFeel.lua:3: attempt to compare number with nil: |
