| 00:00.00 | Xinhuan | then you "save" this template" and apply it to all your unit frames |
| 00:00.03 | Xinhuan | that's an example |
| 00:00.20 | Xinhuan | another example would be "stick-it-notes" addon i asked about earlier |
| 00:00.38 | Toadkiller | Ok so as an author you want that, but what if a user wants to dock stuff to your frame or dock your fram somewhere else? |
| 00:00.41 | Xinhuan | some addon frames would look just plain weird because of different borders/backdrops etc |
| 00:01.05 | Xinhuan | so it would only make sense if the addon's frames only docked with its own frames |
| 00:01.27 | Xinhuan | then you also register your frame to the "global namespace" in libsticky |
| 00:01.34 | nullflow | Emerald Sanctuary should have guards >_> |
| 00:01.47 | Xinhuan | anything can dock to a frame registered to "global namespace" |
| 00:02.04 | Xinhuan | but frames in a "private namespace" can only dock with other frames in the same private namespace |
| 00:02.25 | nullflow | Global sounds like the ideal to me, in most instances. |
| 00:02.33 | Tuller | ~combuctor |
| 00:02.34 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, combuctor is a filterable inventory thing: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 00:02.39 | nullflow | Would be nice if everything played nicely and snapped to everything. |
| 00:02.41 | Tuller | there we go |
| 00:02.48 | Xinhuan | i can think of some cases you wouldn't want your frames to snap to anything but your own |
| 00:02.52 | Xinhuan | that's all i'm asking |
| 00:02.54 | Toadkiller | Ok but unless there is a technical reason (like taint or crash or something) that prevents docking, why limit the end user that way? |
| 00:03.04 | JoshBorke | no purl, combuctor is a filterable inventory bag mod for wow: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 00:03.07 | Xinhuan | didn't i just give an example? |
| 00:03.08 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 00:03.12 | JoshBorke | purl, combuctor is a filterable inventory bag mod for wow: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 00:03.13 | purl | ...but combuctor is already something else... |
| 00:03.15 | Xinhuan | the unitframe example |
| 00:03.19 | JoshBorke | purl, no combuctor is a filterable inventory bag mod for wow: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 00:03.20 | purl | okay, JoshBorke |
| 00:03.24 | Xinhuan | you're creating a "template" for 1 unit |
| 00:03.30 | JoshBorke | Tuller: hope you don't mind :-) |
| 00:03.31 | Xinhuan | which you then apply to all units |
| 00:03.39 | nullflow | I'm with Toadkiller on this...why limit the user's options? |
| 00:03.42 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: 'filterable'? |
| 00:03.51 | Xinhuan | the docking should only allow the unitframe elements to anchor to other unitframe elements |
| 00:03.58 | Tuller | able to be filterd :P |
| 00:04.00 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: his words :-P |
| 00:04.03 | Toadkiller | Do they crash if they do not? |
| 00:04.07 | Tuller | filtereerd |
| 00:04.13 | Pkekyo | Tuller: well thank you, captain obvious |
| 00:04.14 | Xinhuan | they will overlap if they do not |
| 00:04.21 | Xinhuan | since you're applying the template to every unit |
| 00:04.23 | Pkekyo | examples please? |
| 00:04.25 | Xinhuan | say 40 raid units |
| 00:04.36 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: read the thread? |
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| 00:04.49 | Xinhuan | if i docked the manabar to be above the hpbar, then that would be the case for all 40 units |
| 00:04.56 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: what thread? |
| 00:04.57 | Tuller | it has pictures! :) |
| 00:04.58 | Xinhuan | but if i docked the manabar to FrameX of some addon |
| 00:05.01 | JoshBorke | ~combuctor |
| 00:05.02 | purl | rumour has it, combuctor is a filterable inventory bag mod for wow: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0 |
| 00:05.03 | Xinhuan | then that wouldn't make sense |
| 00:05.08 | Xinhuan | to have all 40 manabars docked to that |
| 00:05.12 | Amadeo | Pics means it happened |
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| 00:05.33 | Pkekyo | for some reason, my eyes automatically filters out links in irc unless I'm looking for them xD |
| 00:05.51 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: look for the one i just requested ;-) |
| 00:06.03 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Ok I think I see. So what you need is a way to privately rearrange a cluster of objects & then treat them as a composite frame in terms of dragging. THe composite frame sourrounds them all ...? |
| 00:06.16 | Xinhuan | essentially, what i'm suggesting is adding the arbitrary restriction to prevent certain stuff from happening, rather than limiting the user |
| 00:06.22 | Xinhuan | yes! |
| 00:06.25 | Xinhuan | that's the idea |
| 00:07.04 | Amadeo | I like the idea of a FFA PvP server |
| 00:07.16 | Xinhuan | the whole docking thing is also complicated to implement however |
| 00:07.27 | Xinhuan | if i dock frameA to frameB, |
| 00:07.35 | Xinhuan | when i move B, i would expect A to move along with it right? |
| 00:07.42 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: I just did...are the filters customizable yet? also: is it possible to make the frame translucent? |
| 00:07.48 | Xinhuan | but when i move A, i would also expect B to move along with A |
| 00:07.50 | Arrowmaster | FUCK YES |
| 00:07.52 | Toadkiller | yes thats how it works right now |
| 00:07.54 | Arrowmaster | KAEL DOWN!!!!! |
| 00:07.59 | Xinhuan | i.e the docking has to go both ways |
| 00:08.01 | Tuller | goodjob |
| 00:08.05 | Amadeo | You killed Kaelten! You bastard! |
| 00:08.10 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: grats |
| 00:08.11 | Arrowmaster | first time in phase5 and kael down! |
| 00:08.20 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: hell if i know, tuller wrote it :-P |
| 00:08.22 | Tuller | Pkekyo: what are you looking for specifically with customizable filters? |
| 00:08.28 | Tuller | and no alpha setting |
| 00:08.31 | Xinhuan | if i dock 3 frames A-B-C together, moving any of A-B-C should move all 3 |
| 00:08.43 | Xinhuan | that is the tricky part |
| 00:08.44 | aestil | do the new alchemist pots random buff stack with a flask already used? |
| 00:08.49 | Arrowmaster | and we had a 'bet' with the best guild on the server saying we wouldnt be able to kill him before 2.3! |
| 00:08.55 | Toadkiller | I have not done that part yet but a combination of some Tuller + LegoBrick code will do the combined group dragging yes... |
| 00:08.56 | aestil | Xinhuan: i disagree |
| 00:09.16 | nullflow | Now, I haven't done much UI coding, Xinhuan, but docking schemes I've seen usually work thusly: |
| 00:09.17 | aestil | if you doc a/b/c together, there should be a 'master' frame. preferablly the first one that you doc'd too. |
| 00:09.28 | nullflow | If you dock an object to another...yeah, what aestil said. |
| 00:09.38 | aestil | so if you doc'd b to A, then A is master, and then you move A to move all. |
| 00:09.40 | Pkekyo | Tuller: I want to specify what to filter out myself, rather than using a bunch of limited presets... IE: one filter for minerals, one for mounts, maybe even specific armor sets... |
| 00:09.40 | Pkekyo | and even more important: geif alpha settins asap! |
| 00:09.54 | nullflow | it's logically the only way to do it, otherwise, how does one easily undock a frame? |
| 00:09.54 | aestil | otherwise you break b off of A if you move b, but then you'd keep c docked to b. |
| 00:09.55 | Xinhuan | well here's the problem with libsticky then, you could end up with circular references |
| 00:10.09 | Toadkiller | aestil: there will always be a natural "master": the one frame that rules them all, even thoug hduring dragging the frodoFrame may rule them all |
| 00:10.11 | Xinhuan | lets say you have 4 frames ABCD |
| 00:10.16 | Xinhuan | you have A |
| 00:10.22 | Xinhuan | you dock B on the right side |
| 00:10.25 | Tuller | you won't end up with circular references if you're using my dependency check :P |
| 00:10.27 | Xinhuan | then you dock C underneath A |
| 00:10.29 | nullflow | if you dock B to A, A becomes the master frame. |
| 00:10.39 | Pkekyo | Tuller: that a reply to me or? |
| 00:10.40 | nullflow | you must move A to move B in dockingly fashion. |
| 00:10.41 | Xinhuan | and you want to dock D to B and C so that you form a bigger cube |
| 00:10.49 | Pkekyo | I fucking hate having to code alpha settins for addons myself >.< |
| 00:10.50 | Xinhuan | square* |
| 00:10.52 | Tuller | Pkekyo: not in reference to you :) |
| 00:10.59 | Xinhuan | so in this case, does D dock to B or C? |
| 00:11.02 | Xinhuan | or both? |
| 00:11.13 | Tuller | Pkekyo: your issue is more interesting because you want tagging + PT sets essentially :) |
| 00:11.14 | Toadkiller | Tuller: btw I am stealing som,e Flypaper code t ocreate the brindlefly lib: LibStickyFrames-1.0 |
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| 00:11.26 | Xinhuan | now if i move C, does D move? |
| 00:11.30 | Pkekyo | Tuller: PT sets? yup, tagging would do it, I guess |
| 00:11.31 | nullflow | ok wait |
| 00:11.34 | Tuller | my lawyers will contact you shortly :P |
| 00:11.44 | nullflow | so you dock D to B, and D to C? |
| 00:11.49 | nullflow | what is C docked to? |
| 00:11.54 | Xinhuan | C is docked to A |
| 00:11.58 | Tuller | Toadkiller: are you doing edge resistance, too? |
| 00:11.59 | nullflow | oh right |
| 00:12.11 | Toadkiller | edge resistance? |
| 00:12.14 | nullflow | honestly, I would hope that D docks to B |
| 00:12.22 | Tuller | it was in the original stickyframes code |
| 00:12.22 | nullflow | and is hence docked to the master, A |
| 00:12.27 | Xinhuan | unless the whole docking code doesn't have a master thing at all |
| 00:12.34 | Xinhuan | meaning all frames are still independant of each other |
| 00:12.40 | nullflow | As for why it's docked to B instead of C, it's because B is before C in the alphabet |
| 00:12.47 | Xinhuan | moving a frame doesn't move any other frame docked to it |
| 00:12.52 | Toadkiller | Ok the way it works, you cannot move a parent without moving its children, so there is no way to make an illegal dock... |
| 00:12.53 | Tuller | drag a frame near another, it "resists" being moved forward and instead slides along the edge |
| 00:13.03 | Xinhuan | the "docking" concept is just to align frames next to each other |
| 00:13.06 | Pkekyo | Tuller: PT sets? :) |
| 00:13.14 | Xinhuan | is that easier? |
| 00:13.16 | nullflow | Honestly making parent and child frames is the only logical way I can imagine to make a docking scheme. |
| 00:13.19 | Tuller | Pkekyo: yes, they're possible to implement, periodic table sets :P |
| 00:13.34 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 00:13.40 | Tuller | I should just rewrite the thing to use vbagnon's ruleset code :P |
| 00:13.45 | nullflow | I don't really know what you're trying to say anymore, Xinhuan |
| 00:13.58 | Xinhuan | i just gave a completely different suggestion |
| 00:14.07 | Pkekyo | basicly, the ultimate bag addon for me would be a crossbreed between ArkInv and OneBag, methinks |
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| 00:14.26 | Xinhuan | where docking a frame A to another frame B, moving B doesn't move A and moving A doesn't move B |
| 00:14.30 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: But much lighter on resources :P |
| 00:14.35 | Toadkiller | Tuller: the snapping is real time so given a large enough snapping range that simulates resistance? |
| 00:14.37 | aestil | wtf cuases that stupid stretched icon thing on pitbull frames? |
| 00:14.40 | Xinhuan | the docking is only to "snap" to each other when they are close to each other |
| 00:14.41 | aestil | pissing me off. |
| 00:14.51 | Xinhuan | but they are still independant frames |
| 00:14.52 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: ArkInv hard on resources? |
| 00:15.21 | Amadeo | Yes, in comparison to other bag addons |
| 00:15.24 | Tuller | yes, yes it is :P |
| 00:15.39 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: no there are 2 things: snapping, which places them conveniently alligned, & sticking which makes them move together... |
| 00:15.43 | Pkekyo | maybe so, I have plenty of resources, so I'd never notice anyways |
| 00:15.57 | Amadeo | I'm not a believer in wasting resources because I have lots :) |
| 00:16.02 | Pkekyo | hehe |
| 00:16.08 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 00:16.33 | Pkekyo | when I can run several heavy software apps in addition to wow without even noticing I'm running several apps at the same time; I tend to not give shit :) |
| 00:16.40 | Xinhuan | still, what about the namespace stuff? |
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| 00:17.02 | Xinhuan | for example, one could create a "jigsaw puzzle" game, where you move pieces of a picture around |
| 00:17.13 | nullflow | I understand what you mean now, Xinhuan |
| 00:17.17 | Xinhuan | you only want the pieces of the picture to dock to the jigsaw background |
| 00:17.24 | Xinhuan | and not to any other frame |
| 00:17.25 | Pkekyo | tbh, I'll have to make an addon myself, with the GUI of OneBag and the filtering/sorting of ArkInv |
| 00:17.25 | nullflow | and I can very much understand why |
| 00:17.55 | nullflow | with a bit of legwork, it strikes me as doable. |
| 00:18.19 | Toadkiller | Ok so the current Register method takes in a "modName" as the key it gets saved under so obviously a mod can register multiple sets of frames. So I can add a locked attribute or maybe a groupFrame attribute that represents their frame... |
| 00:18.28 | Xinhuan | it also wouldn't make sense, in this example, to have other frames docking to the "jigsaw pieces" |
| 00:18.39 | Xinhuan | jigsaw pieces should only dock with each other |
| 00:18.47 | Toadkiller | Oh & I will rename the parameter to not be modName but ... nameSpace? |
| 00:19.07 | Xinhuan | just add a extra namespace argument in the register function |
| 00:19.17 | Xinhuan | if it is not provided, assume global namespace |
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| 00:19.54 | Toadkiller | The parameter is already a namespace though. |
| 00:19.54 | nullflow | Ok I think I just had a joygasm from Combuctor. |
| 00:20.15 | Xinhuan | but you're not using that parameter as a namespace in the sense |
| 00:20.20 | Xinhuan | for docking purposes |
| 00:20.33 | Pkekyo | nullflow: err? |
| 00:20.34 | JoshBorke | nullflow: isn't it nice? |
| 00:20.37 | Orionshock | meh, combuctor / ark inv/ all that jazz -- if you can't survive and live properly with JUST oneBag or AIOI then those other mods wont help one bit |
| 00:20.45 | nullflow | yes. |
| 00:21.00 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: i used to use OneBag and switched to Combuctor |
| 00:21.06 | nullflow | I attempted to configure SanityBags once, and my head exploded from the possibilities. |
| 00:21.08 | Tuller | Orionshock: combuctor's really more for the bank most of all |
| 00:21.09 | JoshBorke | I like the searching and scaling that combuctor gives me |
| 00:21.13 | Toadkiller | Yes but it can be used to group things that do not participate or only have a meta frame that participates... |
| 00:21.14 | Pkekyo | Orionshock: if only OneBag had item sorting |
| 00:21.26 | Tuller | Orionshock: I cannot remember placement of items there :) |
| 00:21.36 | Orionshock | Pkekyo: thats the idea - if you can't sort on your own.. the addon wont help |
| 00:21.48 | JoshBorke | and i'm upset tuller buckled to the whiners about scaling too large |
| 00:21.49 | Xinhuan | if "modname" just an arbitruary string, then i guess |
| 00:22.15 | Orionshock | Tuller: then you should work on that |
| 00:22.15 | Pkekyo | Orionshock: ofcourse I can, it's just bollocks to have to do it every damn time I pickup some randomass trash item |
| 00:22.17 | Xinhuan | you can just name "libsticky" as the globalnamespace |
| 00:22.22 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: It is just the first idea I had & I already dumped it, just havent renamed it yet. |
| 00:22.29 | Orionshock | meh... |
| 00:22.31 | Tuller | Orionshock: I did, hence combuctor and the text search in bagnon :P |
| 00:22.39 | Xinhuan | any frame registered with "libsticky" is global, anything else is private namespace |
| 00:22.49 | nullflow | text search in bagnon = deal breaker > other bag mods :P |
| 00:23.19 | nullflow | I have a suggestion for it, btw. Optional timeout on the search. |
| 00:23.49 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Ok heres the real question then. For your pitbull example there is a cluster of objects that dock together to form the unit frame. Those should not dock to another pitbull cluster either right? |
| 00:24.11 | kenlyric | nullflow: baggins has text search. |
| 00:24.16 | Toadkiller | Except in the sense that as a whole, they can dock to another one |
| 00:24.17 | Amadeo | What's the best BG to get honor in these days? |
| 00:24.19 | Xinhuan | the cluster of objects should only dock to each other and no other objects |
| 00:24.31 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: idle AV :) |
| 00:24.31 | Xinhuan | all their parents should be the same object |
| 00:24.41 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: lol |
| 00:24.43 | Xinhuan | which is registered as a global docking object |
| 00:24.44 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: more like - only the parent frame of say the playerframe should be valid to be docked to |
| 00:24.52 | Orionshock | and not the elements thereof |
| 00:25.05 | Toadkiller | Ok so the current scheme is sufficient for that, but needs to have the outer frame either calculated or user specified ... |
| 00:25.18 | Toadkiller | + a private flag... |
| 00:25.21 | Orionshock | user-spc |
| 00:25.34 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: seriously...gives the most honor |
| 00:25.36 | Xinhuan | or in the jigsaw puzzle example, if i have a 3x3 jigsaw puzzle (9 frames) |
| 00:25.43 | Xinhuan | the 9 frames should only dock to each other |
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| 00:26.11 | Xinhuan | the 9 frames should not be able to dock to any other frame |
| 00:26.13 | Toadkiller | Yes but the 9 piece puzzle as a whole can dock right? |
| 00:26.24 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: Toadkiller -- stay superficial, only registered frome can be stickied - don't worry bout childframes |
| 00:26.32 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 00:26.48 | Xinhuan | the 9 puzzle pieces would have a common parent, lets call it X |
| 00:26.56 | Orionshock | no |
| 00:26.58 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: How about AV in general? :) |
| 00:27.00 | Xinhuan | it doesn't matter if X is registered or not |
| 00:27.07 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.11 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: well, that gives pretty much the same honor |
| 00:27.28 | Tuller | JoshBorke: its still big, just not super space filling :P |
| 00:27.28 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: no, the point is valid, you want to use the mechanism & treat certain clusters as a whole in terms of docking to other objects |
| 00:27.38 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: okok! |
| 00:27.40 | JoshBorke | Tuller: coward! |
| 00:27.45 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.53 | Xinhuan | if you want to move the 9 pieces as a whole, you would then register X to be globally dockable |
| 00:28.32 | Xinhuan | essentially, X and the 9 objects are in 2 different namespaces, they dont' dock to each other |
| 00:28.51 | Xinhuan | but X can also itself be in the private namespace |
| 00:29.02 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Ok that is a simpler case then. |
| 00:29.09 | Xinhuan | so the 9 objects can dock among themselves and to X |
| 00:29.16 | Xinhuan | but X can only dock to other global objects |
| 00:29.18 | Toadkiller | But do the pitbull thingies have a big common frame? |
| 00:29.30 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 00:29.32 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: no |
| 00:29.36 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 00:29.51 | Toadkiller | Yeah I didnt think so, so I need to support the virtual X frame |
| 00:30.02 | Xinhuan | i was just giving an example, since i have this idea to write a unitframe GUI that is GUI-customizable |
| 00:30.22 | Xinhuan | you don't have to support the virtual X frame |
| 00:30.25 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: no each one has a "Cluster Frame" |
| 00:30.31 | Xinhuan | all i'm suggesting is |
| 00:30.37 | Xinhuan | add namespaces |
| 00:30.40 | Xinhuan | that's it |
| 00:30.48 | Toadkiller | & in the case of the 9 pieces, they just set their private flag to true & thus cut themselves off from all but each other, & their X frame is either registerd for docking or not but separately |
| 00:31.31 | Xinhuan | frames in private namespaces can only dock with other frames in the same private namespace - that's it <-- this 1 line is all i'm asking for |
| 00:31.32 | Toadkiller | SO when you say namespaces do you mean nested ones? |
| 00:31.38 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:31.47 | Orionshock | Toadkiller: try this idea .. FrameX is registered and to piece1 or the first in the namespace, as pieces are docked to FrameX size grows |
| 00:31.47 | Xinhuan | addon code can handle that themselves |
| 00:32.08 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.09 | purl | ACTION smooches a default "parent dock" on the neck |
| 00:32.09 | Xinhuan | you don't have to handle frame parents or anything |
| 00:32.25 | Orionshock | lol purl |
| 00:32.33 | Xinhuan | its really simple - frames in private namespace A are in their own world, they only "see" each other |
| 00:32.46 | Xinhuan | everything else doesn't exist |
| 00:33.07 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan, ok if u need that 1 line then that is equivalent to just setting a private parameter ...? |
| 00:33.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:33.17 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: but would we allow docking between namespaces? |
| 00:33.36 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.36 | Xinhuan | that is allowed if the addon also registers the same frame to the global namespace |
| 00:33.39 | Xinhuan | see? its flexible |
| 00:34.12 | Pkekyo | oy, Tuller, you still here? |
| 00:34.19 | Tuller | true |
| 00:34.23 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: example: |
| 00:34.30 | Toadkiller | OK so good then, I will change the modNmae parameter to say nameSpace or key or something less suggestive but wrong, and add a private flag which makes everything in that group of frames only interract with each other |
| 00:34.40 | Pkekyo | so did I get this right? Combuctor does not have custom filtering nor alpha settings yet? |
| 00:34.40 | Tuller | Pkekyo: what broke? |
| 00:34.46 | Tuller | Pkekyo: right |
| 00:34.54 | Xinhuan | yes, that would work |
| 00:34.56 | Pkekyo | nothing broke, haven't had a chance to try break anything yet ;) |
| 00:35.10 | Xinhuan | essentially, the "global namespace" is really just another private namespace itself |
| 00:35.13 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.13 | Pkekyo | mind if I have a go at Combuctor alpha settings and see if I can get anything proper done? |
| 00:35.17 | Xinhuan | since the global namespace can't see any other namespace |
| 00:35.31 | Tuller | Pkekyo: go for it, it should be trivial to implement :) |
| 00:35.52 | Pkekyo | I've gotten pretty good at coding alpha options into addons that does not support it :p |
| 00:35.53 | Toadkiller | Ok so now the only question becomes, do we need a simple "private" flag, or do we need a label scheme so multiple clusters can be private together... |
| 00:36.04 | Xinhuan | ok lets say you have a namespace called "party1" and you have "hpbar1" and "manabar1" in it |
| 00:36.10 | Pkekyo | will post on the forums if I can manage/be arsed to make it happen |
| 00:36.28 | Xinhuan | hpbar1 and manabar1 has a parent called "pitbullpartyframe1" |
| 00:36.49 | Xinhuan | pitbullpartyframe1 is registered to "global" |
| 00:37.07 | Xinhuan | so pitbullpartyframe1 can dock with any other thing in "global" |
| 00:37.40 | Pkekyo | what is a 'gaffer'? |
| 00:38.05 | Xinhuan | one of the frames in "party1" namespace would obviously be the "master frame" that has an anchor to pitbullpartyframe1 |
| 00:38.16 | Xinhuan | so that moving pitbullpartyframe1 would move all its children |
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| 00:38.34 | Toadkiller | ok |
| 00:38.36 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict gaffer |
| 00:38.39 | JoshBorke | Tuller: what happened to Bongos events? |
| 00:38.45 | Tuller | JoshBorke: ? |
| 00:38.47 | Xinhuan | the namespacing is purely just for docking behavior |
| 00:38.55 | Tuller | JoshBorke: do you mean bagnon events? |
| 00:38.58 | JoshBorke | Tuller: being able to change alpha on bongos bars |
| 00:39.01 | JoshBorke | Tuller: no, bongos |
| 00:39.05 | Pkekyo | hmm, I've actually almost stopped using unitframes by now |
| 00:39.13 | Xinhuan | "limiting docking behavior" rather |
| 00:39.19 | Tuller | JoshBorke: bongos' scripting ability was removed right before 2.0 was released :P |
| 00:39.19 | Xinhuan | to a subset of frames |
| 00:39.22 | Pkekyo | still got raidframes for purtyness-purposes, but meh...don't really use them either |
| 00:39.26 | JoshBorke | bring it back =P |
| 00:39.27 | Pkekyo | unitframes are a thing of zeh past |
| 00:39.36 | Tuller | JoshBorke: auto fading is in, at least :P |
| 00:39.43 | JoshBorke | it is? |
| 00:39.44 | JoshBorke | where? |
| 00:39.54 | Tuller | right click a bar and mess with the auto fade slider :P |
| 00:40.03 | Tuller | ie mouse fadnig |
| 00:40.07 | Tuller | err fading, but not combat fading |
| 00:40.09 | JoshBorke | no no, i want it to fade in combat |
| 00:40.10 | Pkekyo | anyone know who was making the addon temporarily dubbed 'JaHUD'? |
| 00:40.42 | Pkekyo | ~seen Kaelten |
| 00:40.43 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 6h 21m 25s) #wowace (1d 6h 21m 25s), last said: 'bbiab'. |
| 00:40.50 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: ping? |
| 00:41.10 | Tuller | JoshBorke: bah :P |
| 00:41.29 | JoshBorke | Tuller: i can do it myself, but are the bongos bars named? |
| 00:41.33 | Xuerian | This is odd.... My entire UI is flickering, my latency (wow only) is around 500ms, and increasing memory is steep at 20kb/s 0_o |
| 00:41.34 | Tuller | JoshBorke: its easy to make bars hide/show in combat, but fading requires a bit more trickery |
| 00:41.42 | Tuller | JoshBorke: BBar:Get(id) |
| 00:42.03 | Tuller | JoshBorke: or Bongos:ForBar('barList', 'Method', args) |
| 00:42.32 | Tuller | ie Bongos:ForBar('1-10 bags', 'Show') |
| 00:42.37 | Pkekyo | someone PM Kaelten and tell him files.wowace.com is throwing absolute FUCKLOADS of CSS errors |
| 00:43.46 | Xinhuan | you do it :P |
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| 00:43.54 | JoshBorke | Kaelten, pastamancer: "files.wowace.com is throwing absolute FUCKLOADS of CSS errors" |
| 00:44.03 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 00:44.24 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: can't |
| 00:44.31 | Pkekyo | if you were refering to me |
| 00:44.44 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Ok so an upgrade then: Register a set of frames to an arbitrary key value. Also, there is a dockingGroup labe which if nill means the global set. Otherwise docking is restricted to only frames with that label. So essentially it functions as a namespace. Also there is a virtual frame setting that can be calculated from the group passed in or by the mod itself so that a cluster of stuff from a pitbull frame for ex |
| 00:45.17 | Xinhuan | ya, that's the idea |
| 00:46.01 | Xinhuan | i'm not planning to touch ck's addons with a 6-foot pole though ;p |
| 00:46.04 | Toadkiller | Right, but by making it a label its more flexible so you can conceivably have sub componenets that can dock to other of their kind or something (cant think of a practical application) but there you go |
| 00:46.34 | Xinhuan | an addon would just be able to make as many namespaces as it needs anyway |
| 00:47.12 | aestil | so, this lib, is libstub? |
| 00:47.14 | Toadkiller | Exactly, &someone else can add something to their namespace / label |
| 00:47.34 | Toadkiller | aestil: yes it is LibStub based... |
| 00:48.08 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: why not? :P |
| 00:48.09 | aestil | all that really means to me is that any mod, from any framework can use it. |
| 00:48.15 | Tuller | JoshBorke: you could do RegisterStateDriver(BBar:Get(1), 'shown', '[combat]show;hide'), or whatever the new syntax is |
| 00:48.24 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 00:50.07 | JoshBorke | Tuller: naw, i have a mod that i use to do fading and stuff |
| 00:50.13 | JoshBorke | i just needed to add in the code to grab the bars |
| 00:50.18 | Tuller | ah |
| 00:50.57 | JoshBorke | i only do it during PRE, PRD |
| 00:51.03 | JoshBorke | and i only do setalpha |
| 00:51.13 | JoshBorke | so it don't matter none |
| 00:51.36 | Xinhuan | also curious, is there a "snapping distance" setting? :) |
| 00:52.04 | Toadkiller | -- Snap range in pixels. not saved, but mods can provide an interface to change it |
| 00:52.04 | Toadkiller | LibStickyFrames.SNAP_RANGE_DEFAULT = 5 |
| 00:52.04 | Toadkiller | LibStickyFrames.snapRange = LibStickyFrames.SNAP_RANGE_DEFAULT |
| 00:52.20 | Xinhuan | oh yeah, libs can't have SVs zz |
| 00:52.33 | Pkekyo | people still doesn't like CK's addons? (ref: Xinhuani'm not planning to touch ck's addons with a 6-foot pole though) |
| 00:52.53 | Toadkiller | I love his mods, I touch them all the time |
| 00:52.55 | Wobin | There's a time limit? |
| 00:52.56 | Xinhuan | no, i personally find his code difficult to understand |
| 00:53.08 | Xinhuan | that's all |
| 00:53.13 | Wobin | "After X months, -everyone- will like CK's mods!" |
| 00:53.24 | Wobin | whut? |
| 00:53.28 | Toadkiller | I like the testing support he added. Main reason I want to use Rock |
| 00:53.55 | Pkekyo | I bloody hate the rock config |
| 00:54.18 | Xinhuan | you know i think rock would have been very well received if not for rockconfig ;p |
| 00:54.20 | Pkekyo | miss the good-ol' days of dewdrop tbh |
| 00:54.26 | Pkekyo | agreen, Xinhuan |
| 00:54.37 | Toadkiller | Yeah but dewdrop is too limited |
| 00:55.02 | Pkekyo | not really...worked great in the pre-rock pitbull config |
| 00:55.09 | Xinhuan | dewdrop is still able to do everything rockconfig can |
| 00:55.16 | Pkekyo | yup |
| 00:55.20 | Orionshock | Pkekyo: great like a hole in the head |
| 00:55.22 | Pkekyo | atleast you should be given a choise |
| 00:55.29 | Toadkiller | Yes & it "works" in the grid config, but you have to use "works" very loosely |
| 00:55.29 | Xinhuan | the downside is that its all in menu form, rather than everything displayed at a glance |
| 00:55.48 | Tuller | dewdrop is evil |
| 00:55.53 | Wobin | You could say the same for RockConfig |
| 00:55.55 | Toadkiller | WHat Tuller says |
| 00:55.56 | Wobin | it "works" |
| 00:56.00 | Pkekyo | the first time I saw rock config, I just said 'sod it, I'll leave FuBar be...' |
| 00:56.55 | Orionshock | tbh & IMHO the main reason is sucks right now is because of all the hate that all of a sudden fell on ck in the middle of changing something, and he burned out. |
| 00:57.07 | Toadkiller | The proper way to think of Rock config is the first AceOptions3 implementation or something. Its still in the ugly phase &doesnt actually do AceConfig3 yet |
| 00:57.39 | Orionshock | hell if i where him i'd have told yall to fuck off and left months ago |
| 00:57.41 | Wobin | well, tbh, that's entirely ck's fault |
| 00:57.48 | Wobin | he -really- shouldn't have released like that |
| 00:58.00 | nullflow | I'm a fan of Rock as opposed to ridiculous dropdown menus. |
| 00:58.02 | Wobin | if he spent, say a few weeks, with it in branches still |
| 00:58.05 | aestil | Wobin: nice opinion, i have no problem, and have never had a problem with rockconfig. |
| 00:58.12 | Orionshock | Wobin: it was in the branches |
| 00:58.15 | Orionshock | i know - |
| 00:58.16 | Wobin | and got people to test it and give opinions |
| 00:58.27 | Orionshock | i updated all the time from the branch version |
| 00:58.29 | Pkekyo | Wobin: thing is, he don't want opinions, he doesn't care |
| 00:58.30 | Wobin | more opinions than he did get |
| 00:58.51 | Wobin | It's just that he basically dropped it, with no warning, on -everyone- |
| 00:58.55 | Pkekyo | I remember him saying something along the lines of 'sod everyone else, I want it this way' |
| 00:58.57 | Toadkiller | People are lazy though & branches automatically means you only have other devs & like 5 superusers looking at it which means lamost noone |
| 00:59.00 | Orionshock | and guess the fk what - not enough people beta tested it in the branches because not enough give a dam about beta testing |
| 00:59.03 | Wobin | especially people who don't even log here |
| 00:59.32 | Wobin | well no. If he actually went on the forums and said: "oh hey, new version of the config <here>" |
| 00:59.33 | Tuller | eeeh, we don't really tell people about branches |
| 00:59.44 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 00:59.50 | Wobin | I'm sure there would have been plenty of people willing to test it |
| 00:59.57 | Orionshock | Pkekyo: thats a perfectly ok answer, it's his fking addon he can do what he pleasees with it and if he can't then he shouldn't be writing it.. |
| 01:00.05 | Pkekyo | I've been tossing about here for months now, and still don't know what branches is... |
| 01:00.15 | Pkekyo | Orionshock: ofcourse |
| 01:00.21 | Orionshock | good :D |
| 01:00.30 | JoshBorke | Tuller: i forgot how to undo the alt+click to move |
| 01:00.41 | JoshBorke | nvm |
| 01:00.41 | Pkekyo | imo, it's a shitty line of thought, but it's his full right to keep it |
| 01:00.43 | JoshBorke | alt+right click |
| 01:00.47 | Tuller | good job |
| 01:00.48 | Wobin | aestil: That's nice. |
| 01:01.23 | Orionshock | Wobin: i know what you mean about the release method -- but then again just about everything else arround here has a half ass release method |
| 01:01.23 | Toadkiller | Not really true, WHen AutoBar was in alpha I had like 5 comments in a week. People just like WAU ... |
| 01:01.23 | Wobin | Orionshock: And we have noone to blame for ourselves if it goes arse up |
| 01:01.23 | Orionshock | exactly |
| 01:01.54 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.56 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.58 | aestil | Wobin: yeah, it is. my opinion, it was fine. all the hate that piled up was absurd. It wasn't perfect, it could have been better, and yet people basically spit venom, because a small thing changed, which basically had nothing to do with the actual functional use of the addons. |
| 01:02.18 | Wobin | aestil: And? |
| 01:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | people don't like it when an addon interferes with gameplay |
| 01:03.00 | aestil | your opinion, was stated as fact. i get sick of that. |
| 01:03.17 | Wobin | aestil: Is there anything I've said that isn't the truth? |
| 01:03.18 | aestil | hyperChipmunk: don't use beta versions of mods then? |
| 01:03.44 | Pkekyo | aestil: thing is, ALOT of addons doesn't ever make it out of beta...kinda like google apps :p |
| 01:03.49 | JoshBorke | aestil: please don't use the "beta" version slant |
| 01:03.57 | JoshBorke | aestil: wowace is the only place to get pitbull |
| 01:03.59 | hyperChipmunk | i wasn't using a beta until it suddenly one day turned into one |
| 01:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: wrt wowace and specifically ck's addons, that's a non-argument |
| 01:04.29 | aestil | no, my point is that you can check changelogs for addons before you install new versions. |
| 01:04.38 | Wobin | er not in this case |
| 01:04.46 | aestil | ? |
| 01:04.50 | aestil | right click 'view change log' |
| 01:04.50 | Wobin | WAU updated it |
| 01:04.54 | aestil | uh huh |
| 01:05.04 | Wobin | and for many people, that's all it does |
| 01:05.12 | aestil | then they aren't in a position to complain |
| 01:05.17 | Wobin | ha |
| 01:05.19 | hyperChipmunk | yes they are |
| 01:05.25 | Wobin | welcome to Real Life |
| 01:05.29 | hyperChipmunk | they most certainly are |
| 01:05.38 | Wobin | Hope you Enjoy your Stay |
| 01:05.59 | JoshBorke | real life can kiss my fat white ass |
| 01:06.06 | Wobin | And it does! |
| 01:06.07 | JoshBorke | i'm 6"5' with six pack abs online |
| 01:06.11 | Pkekyo | haha, indeed |
| 01:06.25 | JoshBorke | i can have a 3 way even on a slow day |
| 01:06.44 | aestil | if people use a product, which delivers cutting edge updates to mods, down to the minute, and do it without checking what those addons are changing, i dont' really feel sorry for them |
| 01:06.52 | aestil | so, whatever. |
| 01:07.01 | Wobin | aestil: Is -anyone- asking for your opinion? =) |
| 01:07.07 | Wobin | or your pity? |
| 01:07.22 | JoshBorke | technically i don't think anyone has asked for anyone's opinion |
| 01:07.23 | Wobin | or is it empathy? |
| 01:07.27 | JoshBorke | i know i sure as hell didn't :-P |
| 01:07.36 | JoshBorke | then again... |
| 01:07.37 | JoshBorke | ~joshborke |
| 01:07.38 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid than Thrae. I'm also a smart-ass. And apparently I'm not a person, so I don't count. |
| 01:07.44 | aestil | the point is, the probelm is not any addon developers fault, its the users fault for not knowing what they are doing. |
| 01:07.46 | Wobin | By all means, aestil, don't feel sorry for them. I don't think they care what you think |
| 01:08.01 | Wobin | aestil: So the developer has -no- responsibility whatsoever? |
| 01:08.06 | Wobin | Woot! |
| 01:08.25 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r54355 10Tattle/ (26 files in 23 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 01:08.32 | aestil | responsibility for what? |
| 01:08.39 | aestil | if people don't like a specific addon they won't use it? |
| 01:08.47 | Pkekyo | aestil: when publishing an addon on zeh intarwebz, you can't rely on every bloody end-user to read every damn minor changelog for every addon they use...it's not only unrealistic, but plain dumb |
| 01:08.50 | aestil | i'm not exactly sure what they should be responsible for. |
| 01:09.10 | nullflow | I use entirely too many mods to read changelogs for every miniscule update |
| 01:09.18 | Wobin | Perhaps, if ck, had put out FuBar3 |
| 01:09.20 | nullflow | It would be a nightmare to comb through them all. |
| 01:09.21 | Pkekyo | as do most of us, nullflow |
| 01:09.28 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar rock should have been a separate project |
| 01:09.29 | JoshBorke | don't update then |
| 01:09.30 | Wobin | and said: "OMG, New, Shiny FuBar" |
| 01:09.35 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: agreed |
| 01:09.36 | Pkekyo | hyperChipmunk: agreed |
| 01:09.43 | hyperChipmunk | that would be responsible development |
| 01:09.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: that would interest me too. (re commit note for crash inducing change) |
| 01:09.46 | nullflow | I don't have a problem with any changes I've had imposed on me through vigorous use of WAU. |
| 01:09.47 | aestil | bullshit |
| 01:09.48 | Wobin | people wouldn't have been more understanding |
| 01:09.52 | aestil | the ace2 version of fubar didn't go away |
| 01:09.54 | JoshBorke | imo, all of his addons should have just been new "projects" |
| 01:09.56 | aestil | use it then. |
| 01:10.00 | Wobin | aestil: It got -replaced- |
| 01:10.01 | aestil | what are you complaining about? |
| 01:10.20 | nullflow | me? I'm not complaining. |
| 01:10.21 | aestil | you mean, youc an't look at the files.wowace.com/fubar folder and find the rev right before rock? |
| 01:10.23 | JoshBorke | i believe in this case the bait and switch tactic was employed |
| 01:10.37 | Wobin | HMSS Point and SS Aestil pass each other unknowingly in the night... |
| 01:10.44 | nullflow | XD |
| 01:10.47 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 01:11.16 | Pkekyo | aestil: ofcourse you can, but shouldn't have to...such an important update should imo be considered a spankin' new version, and not be treated as just another minor update |
| 01:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: your average user barely knows what revisions are. |
| 01:12.06 | Pkekyo | your average user doesn't have the first clue what revisions are tbh |
| 01:12.08 | aestil | i htink the real problem, is that the WAU is great, easy, and yet its not designed for the average user, cause they will regularly break their mods by updating to versions that haven't been properly tested. |
| 01:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: it's not strictly WAU, though. wau as a program is just fine |
| 01:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: by saying "not designed for the average user", you're really referring to the structure of wowace in general. |
| 01:13.11 | aestil | rock, works fine, is like an upgraded niagra, and although i think dewdrop should have been included as a viable alternative for certain cituations, i don't hardly miss it, since i hated dewdrop from forever. Why there is such an uproar for not having dewdrop, a bandaid config library, i don't fully understand. |
| 01:13.41 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: there should totally be a way to have mods that are 100% ready for the public, and everythign other than that, only advanced users d/ |
| 01:13.43 | nullflow | In all honesty, it doesn't make sense to me that miniscule revisions are posted to the general public, as opposed to only sanctioned releases. |
| 01:13.48 | Xuerian | Because Rock is just as much a bandaid config library, as you put it |
| 01:13.53 | JoshBorke | like wowi! |
| 01:14.03 | Pkekyo | aestil: just as you 'hated dewdrop from forever', people hate rock config from forever |
| 01:14.03 | Wobin | aestil: like Wowi! |
| 01:14.03 | Tuller | if fubar rock edition was named fubar3 then there would have been less issues, more or less. |
| 01:14.05 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: shoulds and ought tos are all well and good, but unfortunately don't reflect reality. :P |
| 01:14.06 | aestil | right in WAU, you should be able to check 'hey i'm an advanced user and i'm not afraid of breaking my UI' or 'hey, i love your guyz mods, but i don't want my shit to break' |
| 01:14.29 | aestil | wowi is fine. |
| 01:14.32 | JoshBorke | Wobin: don't take my statements |
| 01:14.37 | aestil | i get lightheaded and a few other mods there. |
| 01:14.38 | JoshBorke | Wobin: thief |
| 01:14.38 | nullflow | I really don't know how you couldn't prefer rock to dewdrop. |
| 01:14.42 | Pkekyo | Tullerif fubar rock edition was named fubar3 then there would have been less issues, more or less. <---- Truth! |
| 01:15.00 | nullflow | At least from an end user standpoint. |
| 01:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i think in-game it may actually be called fubar3. |
| 01:15.22 | Tuller | if there's a small menu, then dewdrop is sufficient |
| 01:15.28 | Tuller | well a dropdown is |
| 01:15.28 | NightHawkTheSane | it should have been a separate project, though |
| 01:15.29 | aestil | Tuller: this sounds alot like 'should and would never built a bridge' type of a statement. both sides can make that argument. |
| 01:15.33 | Tuller | but if there's a big menu, rock is sufficient |
| 01:15.37 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: may be so, but when he just replaced FuBar2 with it, he shat on everything anyways |
| 01:15.41 | Wobin | Unfortunately, with the release method used, RockConfig was too... 'young' for FuBar |
| 01:15.42 | aestil | Tuller: sure, i wish there were both |
| 01:15.53 | nullflow | I have yet to write a lick of lua, but it seems like a nice upgrade to me over tempermantal dropdown menus. |
| 01:15.59 | aestil | Tuller: but given the option of only one, how a person could prefer dewdrop is beyond me. |
| 01:16.10 | nullflow | Agreed. |
| 01:16.25 | aestil | waterfall/niagara > than dewdrop as well. |
| 01:16.26 | hyperChipmunk | and you're, of course, the Decider of Everything |
| 01:16.34 | nullflow | I configured pitbull through pesky right-clicking and hovering and wanted to stab someone by the time I was done. |
| 01:16.37 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: because, as tuller noted, for small menus and limited options, dewdrop is much easier |
| 01:16.39 | Wobin | Didn't you hear, hyper? |
| 01:16.41 | aestil | rock is not perfect, and ace3config does look > rock config. but the semenatics are small. |
| 01:16.45 | Pkekyo | every time I misclick on fubar and the huge honking fucking rock config bloats my screen I feel like shooting ck in the face.... it's so bloody unecessarily big, and it shouldn't pop up on every damn right-click on fubar |
| 01:16.46 | Wobin | It was a Declaration at the beginning |
| 01:17.01 | Kaelten | I'm not getting any |
| 01:17.08 | Wobin | CSS errors? |
| 01:17.10 | aestil | WTF, someone make it so that you need to alt+ rick click on fubar for that to open up then. |
| 01:17.14 | aestil | its not a huge deal. |
| 01:17.15 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: sounds like a personal problem |
| 01:17.21 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: maybe you should take your wife out on dates more |
| 01:17.22 | nullflow | I will concede that, Pkekyo, however; are you that bad at mouse usage? |
| 01:17.23 | hyperChipmunk | lol at ClockFu zomgrock config |
| 01:17.46 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: PWNED |
| 01:17.48 | hyperChipmunk | that addon had like 2 toggle options and took 2 seconds to draw its window when moved to rock |
| 01:17.51 | Wobin | aestil: So, someone needs to make a bandaid patch for RockConfig? |
| 01:18.03 | aestil | sounds like a feature upgrade to me. |
| 01:18.09 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: you're right, it's -not- a huge deal, but it's just obnoxious enough that it's a deal breaker, or close to it, for some. |
| 01:18.14 | aestil | i don't have this mysterious 'misclick fubar' problem |
| 01:18.16 | Pkekyo | nullflow: using a few addons that require right-clicking whilst in combat, when shit hits the fan and I mis-click, I'm screwed |
| 01:18.20 | nullflow | "HOMG hoarde is ataking!" *Click randomly about the screen in panic.* |
| 01:18.21 | Wobin | Oh ho |
| 01:18.24 | Wobin | it's 'mysterious' now |
| 01:18.29 | aestil | wtf are you miscliking near your fubar? |
| 01:18.40 | nullflow | seriously |
| 01:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, for the love of god, lets not get into this discussion again |
| 01:18.50 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes i'm not misclicking |
| 01:18.54 | nullflow | I really don't understand, unless you have fubar incredibly jacked up in size |
| 01:18.55 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes i want to just enable a fubar plugin |
| 01:18.56 | Pkekyo | nullflow: I'm playing horde |
| 01:19.09 | nullflow | Well, make it alliance, then. |
| 01:19.12 | Pkekyo | oy Kaelten, give me a sec and I'll pastey the errors for you |
| 01:19.13 | Wobin | Pkekyo: HOMG Alliance, is attaxking? |
| 01:19.21 | Pkekyo | no |
| 01:19.22 | nullflow | ^ |
| 01:19.25 | hyperChipmunk | dropdown...click-move-click |
| 01:19.49 | aestil | yeah, it'd be great if that was an option. |
| 01:20.02 | aestil | i agree. |
| 01:20.06 | hyperChipmunk | it used to be |
| 01:20.08 | aestil | but the uproar that its not is rediculous |
| 01:20.26 | Wobin | On the one hand you say "omg, RockConfig is great, why are you complaining?" on the other "Oh yeah, that could do with a fix..." |
| 01:20.38 | vithos | i prefer enabling fubar plugins with rockconfig by far |
| 01:20.41 | Wobin | All these issues have been issues since the beginning |
| 01:21.03 | vithos | because it doesn't disappear if you move your mouse somewhere wrong |
| 01:21.10 | Wobin | Which could have been non-issues, -right- from the start |
| 01:21.28 | sdouble | I just tanked sm armory with a paladin. It was the most fun ever. I ended up with most damage dealt, most healing done, and 97% aggro Paladin tanking is great. I highly recommend it. |
| 01:21.35 | aestil | Wobin: no, i'm saying rock config works fine, its not broken. but yes, obviously there are features/options that would be nice. |
| 01:21.41 | aestil | Wobin: i dont' understand your point. |
| 01:21.42 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/76977 |
| 01:21.51 | Wobin | If he'd released it as FuBar3 |
| 01:21.58 | nullflow | Yes, vithos. |
| 01:22.02 | sdouble | But the real point of me mentioning this is how great Violation is |
| 01:22.06 | aestil | Wobin: could it be better...? SURE! does it work great currently? YES |
| 01:22.11 | nullflow | is violation great? |
| 01:22.19 | hyperChipmunk | it worked better before |
| 01:22.19 | Wobin | I hear violation might be great |
| 01:22.23 | nullflow | I'm using swstats, and it enthuses me mildly. |
| 01:22.26 | aestil | bbl. |
| 01:22.28 | Wobin | Recount is shiny |
| 01:22.37 | JoshBorke | combat log is shiny |
| 01:22.37 | aestil | can we kill the first 4 bosses in hyjal our second night in there? |
| 01:22.46 | nullflow | recount does shiny things, but is at the same time, not a shiny looking window. |
| 01:23.05 | hyperChipmunk | for the record, I believe this was the crash-ur-wow commit note: |
| 01:23.06 | hyperChipmunk | LibRock-1.0 - add in a simple sanity check system. |
| 01:23.08 | vithos | aestil: pretty close, yeah |
| 01:23.23 | Wobin | Was that the omg scrooge fix? |
| 01:23.26 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 01:23.29 | Wobin | >, |
| 01:23.30 | Wobin | >< |
| 01:23.34 | Wobin | worst commit ever imo |
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| 01:24.41 | nullflow | oh, you're the author of FuXPFu, right, Wobin? |
| 01:25.26 | Wobin | aye |
| 01:25.39 | nullflow | Firstly, <3 |
| 01:25.44 | Pkekyo | meh, every time I go to files.wowace.com I bitch and moan to Kaelten about CSS errors :p |
| 01:25.47 | sdouble | hurry /part! |
| 01:25.47 | Wobin | That's mostly Bant, btw =) |
| 01:25.57 | nullflow | Fair enough, but I only have a simple question |
| 01:26.24 | Kaelten | :P |
| 01:26.40 | nullflow | can you point me at a way to manually (as in change the setting by hand in a file) change the addon from being attached to the minimap to being attached to fubar? |
| 01:26.48 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:26.56 | nullflow | I have been wrestling with it all day, and I literally can't get it to do it. |
| 01:27.21 | nullflow | I've nuked the settings files, reinstalled, tried to move it through every method of configuration I can dream up, and it won't budge |
| 01:28.10 | Wobin | try /script FuXP.cannotAttachToMinimap |
| 01:28.21 | Wobin | try /script FuXP.cannotAttachToMinimap = true |
| 01:28.29 | Wobin | maybe? |
| 01:28.29 | nullflow | I was gazing at that line in the code |
| 01:28.36 | nullflow | it was set to true, I recall |
| 01:28.48 | Wobin | What did you do to get it there in the first place? |
| 01:28.54 | Wobin | I'll try replicating |
| 01:29.07 | nullflow | I think all I did was accidently attach it to the minimap |
| 01:29.26 | nullflow | I didn't have any problems with it for about a day after I did it, or I'd know for sure anything out of the ordinary |
| 01:29.58 | nullflow | and the /script was a bust, it returned an error. |
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| 01:30.27 | nullflow | = expected near <eof> |
| 01:30.59 | nullflow | ah, or near true when I actually add the = true :/ |
| 01:32.02 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: did you get the errors? |
| 01:32.38 | nullflow | Oh yes, it's probably worth mentioning that hovering over the minimap button tells me that line 675 in the script gives this error: "Attempt to call method 'GetAttachPoint' (a nil value)" |
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| 01:33.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:33.22 | Wobin | that's probably due to the fact it's not attached =) |
| 01:33.24 | Kaelten | yep |
| 01:33.27 | nullflow | Obviously :P |
| 01:33.49 | Wobin | I put the cannotAttachToMinimap for that reason I guess =P |
| 01:34.00 | Wobin | unless ck changed some of the fubar option naming |
| 01:34.10 | nullflow | perhaps. |
| 01:35.16 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: sorry 'bout bitching about zeh code, but Opera pops me a HUGE error frame (much like the bloody rock config crap) every time I go to files.wowace :p |
| 01:35.25 | Wobin | try FuXP:ToggleMinimapAttached() |
| 01:35.30 | nullflow | that's what you get for using Opera. |
| 01:35.54 | Tuller | free cookies? |
| 01:35.58 | Tuller | because that's what you should get |
| 01:36.09 | Kaelten | use firefox :P |
| 01:36.12 | nullflow | ^ |
| 01:36.27 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:36.34 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: wouldn't touch firefox with a 6 foot pole |
| 01:36.37 | Wobin | I can't detach it to the minimap =P |
| 01:36.44 | nullflow | Interessante. |
| 01:36.56 | nullflow | A bug in the attachment code, perhaps? :D |
| 01:37.05 | Pkekyo | opera's everything I ever need (except an IM(msn) client) |
| 01:37.12 | Wobin | The option doesn't exist for me in the menu |
| 01:37.22 | nullflow | Is the addon hidden? |
| 01:37.28 | nullflow | It only exists when it isn't. |
| 01:37.40 | nullflow | There's a clumsy sentence. |
| 01:38.10 | Wobin | When it's not hidden? |
| 01:38.15 | Wobin | yeah, it's showing |
| 01:38.23 | Wobin | can you SS it? |
| 01:38.31 | Wobin | (granted, I'm not using FuBarRock) |
| 01:38.50 | Wobin | I may have to see if there's another variable I can toggle so it works there too |
| 01:39.05 | nullflow | I certainly can SS it, although I don't know what it will accomplish |
| 01:39.10 | nullflow | you want the error popup? |
| 01:40.21 | nullflow | not long after running FuXP:ToggleMinimapAttached(), I had quite the graphical fandango in WoW |
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| 01:40.24 | Pkekyo | ~dict visceral |
| 01:40.33 | Wobin | no, the ss of the menu with the detach to minimap option |
| 01:40.41 | nullflow | oh, sure. |
| 01:40.50 | nullflow | not much to see...the option disappears when you hide the addon |
| 01:42.16 | Wobin | does the Toggle script do anything? |
| 01:42.54 | nullflow | nothing outwardly visible, no. |
| 01:44.45 | Wobin | hm, I suspect that it's a RockFuBar bug |
| 01:44.55 | Wobin | to a certain degree |
| 01:45.09 | Wobin | in that you -shouldn't- be able to detach to the minmap in the first place |
| 01:45.23 | Wobin | when the cannotAttachToMinimap variable is set to true |
| 01:45.23 | Pkekyo | "RockFuBar" oh the ironly :p |
| 01:45.31 | Pkekyo | s/ironly/irony/ |
| 01:45.34 | Wobin | Well, it's not a bug with FuBar2 =P |
| 01:45.39 | Wobin | in that it can't happen =) |
| 01:45.55 | Wobin | but it shouldn't offer the option to detach to the minimap at all |
| 01:46.48 | aestil | Wobin: speaking fuxpfu, i stopped using it altogether. When I hide the plugin, and have it displaying the bar underneath my undocked fubar, it used to throw errors. that was a long time ago, has that bug been fixed? |
| 01:46.59 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76978?lang=null |
| 01:47.19 | Orionshock | some GM can't appreciate a joke ... then again i think it's the system's delay |
| 01:48.06 | Wobin | aestil: undocked, eh? I'll have a look |
| 01:48.14 | Wobin | it appears to work fine for a docked one |
| 01:48.30 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54356 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:48.30 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 01:48.30 | CIA-7 | - 16114 Foreman's Blackjack |
| 01:49.02 | Wobin | nullflow: try /script FuXP.cannotAttachToMinimap = false; FuXP:ToggleFuBarMinimapAttached(); FuXP.cannotAttachToMinimap = true |
| 01:49.10 | nullflow | Wobin: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/SVDrizzt/screenies/fuxpfu-rock.jpg |
| 01:49.12 | aestil | this was an error like 2 months ago, and it caused me to stop using the addon, which i otherwise loved. |
| 01:49.38 | aestil | hide plugin from showing anywhere, only bar attached to undocked fubar, and i get some weird error on startup, and no bar. |
| 01:50.17 | Aeyan | I remember that error |
| 01:50.18 | nullflow | attempted to call method 'ToggleFuBarMinimapAttached' (a nil value) |
| 01:50.54 | Aeyan | If you had it on an undocked bar, it'd throw errors unless you had the plugin showing on the bar (I have no idea why) |
| 01:51.07 | Aeyan | I think they fixed that, but I don't use an undocked bar anymore so I dunno |
| 01:52.08 | Aeyan | I want to say it was a problem with jostle, but eh |
| 01:52.11 | Aeyan | Can't remember |
| 01:52.25 | Wobin | >< |
| 01:52.28 | Wobin | that function -should- exist |
| 01:52.41 | Wobin | hidden = function() |
| 01:52.42 | Wobin | return (getPluginOption(self, 'cannotAttachToMinimap', false) and not self:IsFuBarMinimapAttached()) or not CheckFuBar() or self:IsDisabled() |
| 01:52.49 | Wobin | Now I -think- that's wrong |
| 01:52.50 | Pkekyo | is there any way I can get WAU to revert all my addons to the good old dewdrop days? |
| 01:53.12 | Wobin | cause if you're checking for hidden, you want to check if 'cannotAttachToMinimap' is -false- |
| 01:53.14 | Wobin | not true |
| 01:53.29 | Wobin | am I reading that right? |
| 01:53.47 | nullflow | I think it's high time I take a close look at the lua, despite not knowing it. |
| 01:54.17 | Wobin | I'll go file a bug, and see what ck thinks |
| 01:55.06 | Aeyan | Good luck |
| 01:55.23 | cralor_ | whats affinity order? |
| 01:57.04 | JoshBorke | Wobin: i found a way to change the max number of fights in recount |
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| 01:58.00 | nullflow | good stuff |
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| 01:58.06 | Wobin | nullflow: okay, bug posted |
| 01:58.12 | nullflow | I should be either writing a paper or a program right now anyway, in all honesty |
| 01:58.14 | Wobin | nullflow: in the meantime, don't click that option =) |
| 01:58.34 | Wobin | JoshBorke: Howso? |
| 01:58.36 | nullflow | well, the perhaps more major problem is I don't seem to be able to perform a clean reinstall to just never click that option |
| 01:59.17 | nullflow | I tried deleting the settings files in the WTF folder, and reinstalling the addon, and it was still attached to the minimap. |
| 01:59.20 | Wobin | hm, you might want to try and see if you can edit the FuBar sv directly |
| 01:59.25 | nullflow | I guess that must be fubar's fault. |
| 01:59.38 | Wobin | cause I suspect the position is saved by FuBar, not the plugin itself |
| 01:59.49 | nullflow | that does make a hell of a lot more sense. |
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| 01:59.56 | JoshBorke | Wobin: it's an option in the savedvariable |
| 02:00.04 | Wobin | JoshBorke: oh win =) |
| 02:00.08 | nullflow | A hunting I shall go. |
| 02:00.09 | JoshBorke | profile.MaxFights |
| 02:02.16 | nullflow | would I be correct in assuming that if FuXP is listed under detached, I should not only remove it from the list of detached mods, but also add it to either left, right, or center on those lists? |
| 02:03.00 | Wobin | Quite likely =) |
| 02:03.11 | nullflow | :P |
| 02:03.19 | JoshBorke | Wobin: MaxFights = 10 works =D |
| 02:03.40 | nullflow | hmm, I am getting the impression that the options in savedvariables/fubar.lua do not reflect what is actually set in game... |
| 02:03.59 | nullflow | being that the center group is empty and...well it bloody well shouldn't be. |
| 02:04.19 | dylanm_ | Uh did you log out? |
| 02:04.39 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 02:04.42 | Wobin | you have to quit the game |
| 02:04.43 | Pkekyo | anyone seen this Grindhouse shit? |
| 02:04.44 | Wobin | and edit |
| 02:04.45 | nullflow | yes, quit altogether |
| 02:05.00 | dylanm_ | A reload will work too, no? |
| 02:05.02 | Wobin | nullflow: Have you set a profile for fubar? |
| 02:05.08 | dylanm_ | Or am I mistaken? |
| 02:05.18 | nullflow | hmm actually... |
| 02:05.20 | Wobin | dylanm_: Doubt it. It's more likely to overwrite whatever changes you make on reload |
| 02:05.45 | dylanm_ | Wobin: That's not been my experience. |
| 02:06.02 | Wobin | oh maybe I'm thinking the config.wtf |
| 02:06.05 | nullflow | I believe I am using the default. |
| 02:06.32 | Wobin | perhaps remove the reference to FuXP entirely |
| 02:06.40 | Wobin | and then readd it in |
| 02:06.41 | nullflow | I considered that, but that could cause just as much of a problem |
| 02:06.42 | Wobin | in game |
| 02:07.02 | nullflow | It's most likely something unplanned for in your attachment code |
| 02:07.24 | Wobin | if it doesn't exist in the fubar sv, it won't load up |
| 02:07.32 | Wobin | (I think) |
| 02:07.48 | nullflow | success. |
| 02:07.58 | Wobin | woohoo |
| 02:08.34 | nullflow | yeah, still a mystery to me why the sv file doesn't show anything in the center, but oh well, it still worked |
| 02:12.52 | Orionshock | oh god, the Netherwing Skybraker quests are trivial for druids |
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| 02:17.07 | CIA-7 | 03feithar * r54357 10SanityBags/ (SanityBags.lua SanityBags.toc): |
| 02:17.07 | CIA-7 | SanityBags: Updated client version to 20200. Fixed problem with lua error when |
| 02:17.07 | CIA-7 | opening a bag that doesn't exist, and added fix that should help bags update |
| 02:17.07 | CIA-7 | more reliably. Also did some code rearranging to help me keep wrap my brain |
| 02:17.08 | CIA-7 | around things. |
| 02:17.59 | CIA-7 | 03feithar * r54358 10SanityItemCache/ (4 files): |
| 02:17.59 | CIA-7 | SanityItemCache: |
| 02:17.59 | CIA-7 | - Changed filter code to allow other addons to easily add their own filter types. |
| 02:25.29 | Bejitt | interesting, you can't get specific ability threat values from Threat-1.0 :( |
| 02:26.17 | Bejitt | or... i just overlooked something |
| 02:27.09 | CIA-7 | 03taburiss * r54359 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 02:27.09 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 02:27.09 | CIA-7 | - Update zhCN locale. |
| 02:27.38 | Diao | ping Shadowed |
| 02:27.42 | Shadowed | yo? |
| 02:28.36 | Diao | error about referencing sspvp global when using ssaf |
| 02:28.50 | Diao | is it a dependency? |
| 02:29.33 | CIA-7 | 03taburiss * r54360 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 02:29.33 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 02:29.33 | CIA-7 | - Update zhCN locale. |
| 02:29.33 | Diao | i'll c/p the exact error when i get into another arena game |
| 02:29.33 | Shadowed | thattttt would be a bug |
| 02:29.33 | Shadowed | don't need to get the error I see the issue |
| 02:29.44 | Diao | ok |
| 02:29.45 | Shadowed | Weird wonder why that code made it back in |
| 02:31.48 | Shadowed | Diao, http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SSArenaFrames/ grab that the latest SSAF.lua file let me know if that fixes it and i'll update it on wowinterface |
| 02:34.16 | Diao | alright |
| 02:35.59 | Diao | waiting for next arena queue again |
| 02:45.48 | Diao | seems to be no errors |
| 02:45.52 | Diao | thanks Shadowed :P |
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| 02:46.05 | Shadowed | You tried mousing over a pet right? It'll only occure when you do that |
| 02:46.09 | Diao | oh |
| 02:46.16 | Diao | last match was mage/rogue |
| 02:46.21 | Diao | i'll try it when i see a hunter/lock |
| 02:46.30 | Shadowed | kks |
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| 03:06.53 | aestil | 1st hyjal boss is retarded |
| 03:06.58 | aestil | why is he there? |
| 03:07.10 | fitz__ | free loots for having gotten 25 people past kael and vashj ? |
| 03:07.11 | Xinhuan | storyline |
| 03:07.11 | aestil | woudlnt it save us all alot of time if they gave you 1k rep, and 2 epics for zoning in? |
| 03:07.47 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 03:07.50 | fitz__ | think of him as a chest, like in kzz, but instead of controlling some chess pieces for 2min, you waste a bit of your buff time |
| 03:08.03 | Arrowmaster | we killed kael tonight and are wiping on hyjal trash |
| 03:08.12 | Diao | wow |
| 03:08.13 | Diao | fuck druids |
| 03:08.16 | Diao | me and a lock vs druid rogue |
| 03:08.20 | Diao | can't kill them :( |
| 03:09.01 | Orionshock | dc fear & dot |
| 03:09.32 | Diao | doesn't work |
| 03:11.30 | Kerafyrm | psst |
| 03:11.32 | Kerafyrm | chargers winning |
| 03:11.33 | Kerafyrm | ;) |
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| 03:14.16 | Nefarion | anyone wanna help out real quick? there's a bug in my script that wasn't there a second ago (i switched a little thing around) and my eyes are going batty from all the text and i just can't find it. |
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| 03:17.24 | Orionshock | pastey it |
| 03:18.15 | CIA-7 | 03ricowan * r54361 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.toc: RicoMiniMap: Updated version number |
| 03:18.25 | Kerafyrm | 5th interception for manning |
| 03:19.22 | Nefarion | pasteyed the whole things. it's a persnal-use lib.. what's not working it the search function. it's not returning the value. but the parser says all the data is there inside the tables. http://ace.pastey.net/76986 (it's called in the metatable's __index, see the :new functions) |
| 03:19.38 | Orionshock | Ellipsis / Xinhuan that texture hack i tried last night... well come to find out the next day that it dosn't actualy work... |
| 03:20.20 | Orionshock | Nefarion: line? |
| 03:20.25 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 03:20.36 | Nefarion | the search func's at 37 |
| 03:20.47 | Nefarion | metatable at 66 |
| 03:20.50 | Orionshock | well because Xinhuan the saturation isn't a guarenteed value |
| 03:21.03 | Nefarion | it uses the lib as the metatable, not a dedicated table |
| 03:21.25 | Nefarion | the metatable is returning tings from lib but not things from search |
| 03:21.35 | Orionshock | local k = lib.mLibs[mtbl[i]][key] |
| 03:21.38 | Orionshock | that looks wrong |
| 03:21.44 | Nefarion | it worked a moment ago |
| 03:21.45 | Orionshock | mtbl[i] is a string value? |
| 03:21.54 | Nefarion | should be |
| 03:22.02 | Orionshock | are you sure? |
| 03:22.25 | Nefarion | yes. it's the mixin's name. i tested it with "test" and checked the contents of the table to be sure. |
| 03:22.25 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r54362 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.toc localization.zhCN.lua): XLootMonitor: zhCN added |
| 03:22.40 | Nefarion | it showed up as "test" = {blah} just fine |
| 03:22.59 | Orionshock | ok that's wrong |
| 03:23.14 | Orionshock | it sould be { test = "Blah" } |
| 03:23.21 | Orionshock | unless you typed it wrong |
| 03:23.47 | Nefarion | mLibs["test"][key]... |
| 03:24.04 | Nefarion | mtbl[i] should be "test" |
| 03:24.38 | k_677 | anyone know of any ace'd addons that do what mobinfo-2 does? |
| 03:24.51 | Orionshock | ok - re work your table method b/c it looks all fubar'ed |
| 03:24.59 | Wobin | MI3? |
| 03:25.08 | k_677 | they have mi3 done now? |
| 03:25.17 | Orionshock | k_677: quite some time now |
| 03:25.26 | k_677 | really? all i ever found was mh3 |
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| 03:25.50 | Wobin | oh mh/mi |
| 03:26.01 | k_677 | ya |
| 03:26.17 | Wobin | no idea I'm afraid |
| 03:26.18 | Orionshock | Nefarion: im not sure why but ' local k = lib.mLibs[mtbl[i]][key] ' looks just fubar'ed and fked and you should find a better way to do it |
| 03:26.20 | k_677 | doh |
| 03:26.35 | Nefarion | yeah it doesn't look pretty |
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| 03:27.17 | Nefarion | but i changed nothing about it and it worked before. what i changed was merging mixin registration into :new(), before it just placed mixin to a local table from another func. |
| 03:27.23 | Nefarion | so i'm doubting the issue's there |
| 03:28.26 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.38 | Orionshock | ... looks about the same tbh :D |
| 03:29.04 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.11 | Orionshock | there we go |
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| 03:32.38 | Nefarion | i think the issues with the meta table. i just ran that search function manually with exact values to emulate the call and it returned perfectly. |
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| 03:36.55 | Nefarion | ah i found it. |
| 03:37.08 | Nefarion | obj.mixins -> t.mixins |
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| 03:41.58 | Diao | yep no errors Shadowed |
| 03:46.08 | kenlyric | http://www.darbears.com/2002/904006-M.jpg |
| 03:47.00 | fitz__ | wtf, that's not porn |
| 03:47.20 | fitz__ | I'm not gonna click on random links if they're not going to turn out to be totally NSFW and risk getting me fired |
| 03:47.41 | Nefarion | more pron plxoz |
| 03:49.35 | Nefarion | question |
| 03:50.27 | Nefarion | (i'm lazy as fuck and don't wanna search the files and figure it out). how exactly does Ace2 know which registered addon is which actual addon when doing things like OnIntiailize and setting addon meta data? |
| 03:51.06 | Antiarc | Woo. Gorefiend down. |
| 03:52.45 | Arrowmaster | Nefarion: name i think |
| 03:52.55 | Nefarion | what do you mean name? |
| 03:57.10 | aestil | is it possible for big wigs to alert in RW when an NPC dies on one of the hyjal events? |
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| 04:10.36 | Nefarion | new fotm class: demon hunter: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z203/cordeos/WoW2007-11-0218-03-08-01.jpg |
| 04:12.22 | Shadowed | Diao kk thanks will upload it |
| 04:12.56 | buu | Nefarion: What th ehell? |
| 04:12.57 | vithos | grats antiarc! |
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| 04:13.11 | Nefarion | i found it in someone's sig, buu |
| 04:13.18 | Nefarion | that's totally awesome tho |
| 04:13.20 | Fisker- | ~seen zealotonastick |
| 04:13.47 | purl | zealotonastick is currently on #wowi-lounge (11h 13m 26s) #wowace (11h 13m 26s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 10h 38m 15s, last said: 'well, there's your problem!'. |
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| 04:21.36 | Wobin | ahah |
| 04:21.40 | Wobin | it even gave him bloodpact |
| 04:22.09 | Nefarion | yeah |
| 04:24.05 | hyperChipmunk | that happened on the 2.2 test realm sometimes |
| 04:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | when they were making the pet-unsummon-on-mount changes |
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| 04:24.46 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes you'd mount up near a lock, and when you dismounted, you had their pet |
| 04:24.59 | hyperChipmunk | it was pretty awesome |
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| 04:26.27 | Arrowmaster | happened to a friend on live |
| 04:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | felhunter with bestial wrath rawr |
| 04:26.46 | hyperChipmunk | or whatever those big ones with axes are |
| 04:26.53 | Arrowmaster | felguard |
| 04:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | those guys |
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| 04:28.59 | Nefarion | oh that's awesome |
| 04:29.09 | Nefarion | did they ever get the bug or can it still happen? |
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| 04:32.45 | Orionshock_ | does wowhead have other languages built into it? |
| 04:32.58 | Orionshock_ | like can i trick the site into displaying in french? |
| 04:34.00 | ulic | don't think so |
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| 04:36.28 | sylvanaar | good morning folks |
| 04:40.18 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 04:42.54 | NightHawkTheSane | what? |
| 04:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | Orionshock_: try wearing a beret when entering the site |
| 04:45.02 | Orionshock_ | lol |
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| 04:47.32 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: tell me more |
| 04:47.53 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r54363 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 04:49.59 | NightHawkTheSane | doing nightbane, later :P |
| 04:56.29 | fitz__ | nefarian, they fixed that problem long before the patch went live |
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| 05:00.06 | Lukian | <hyperChipmunk> felguard with bestial wrath rawr <- damn, I can't believe I missed the fun on the 2.2 PTR |
| 05:02.01 | Diao | o_o |
| 05:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: tried dogfish head 60 minute IPA today |
| 05:03.26 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.3 * r54364 10BulkMail2/: |
| 05:03.26 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2: 2.3 |
| 05:03.26 | CIA-7 | - creation of 2.3 branch (for WoW 2.3 patch) |
| 05:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i hate nightbane |
| 05:04.04 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54365 10/branches/BulkMail2Inbox/: |
| 05:04.04 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 05:04.04 | CIA-7 | - creation of branch directory |
| 05:04.33 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.3 * r54366 10BulkMail2Inbox/: |
| 05:04.33 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2Inbox: 2.3 |
| 05:04.33 | CIA-7 | - creation of 2.3 branch (for WoW 2.3 patch) |
| 05:07.50 | fitz__ | is the 2.3 toc 20300 ? |
| 05:08.03 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: it's hoptacular |
| 05:08.07 | hyperChipmunk | i assume so |
| 05:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 05:09.01 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: if you think you might like the style, but want to try something different, check out Avery's IPA. It's more floral and less bitter. |
| 05:09.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, I'll keep it in mind |
| 05:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I do like the general flavor of it |
| 05:13.28 | pastamancer | dogfishhead is one of my favorites |
| 05:14.03 | NightHawkTheSane | cool. New belgium is probably my favorite brewery. |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.3 * r54367 10BulkMail2/ (4 files): |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2: 2.3 |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-7 | - Changes for WoW patch 2.3, most significantly reorganization of send cache by name to allow for unfragmented multiple attaching |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-7 | - New option "Attach multiple items" (true by default): |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.58 | pastamancer | ah, they make fat tire |
| 05:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yup |
| 05:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | they make a number of other things as well. :) 1554 is probably my favorite, but i like a lot of their stuff |
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| 05:18.36 | pastamancer | have you tried anything from chouffe? |
| 05:19.38 | pastamancer | http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/321/27804 Chouffe Houblon is a belgian take on the double-ipa |
| 05:19.51 | pastamancer | very hoppy but still very belgian |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.3 * r54368 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc BulkMailInbox-enUS.lua BulkMailInbox.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2Inbox: 2.3 |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | - Changes for WoW patch 2.3. |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | - Multiple-attached items (and attached cash) will be displayed (and can be taken) independently of the mail in which they are contained. |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | - 'Money' field removed. Money is displayed in its own row with 'Cash' as the item and the amount is displayed in the 'Qty' field |
| 05:22.46 | CIA-7 | - 'Mail #' field added. This is the unique mail to which the item belongs. |
| 05:22.48 | CIA-7 | - Alt-delete and Ctrl-return functions apply to ALL items in the same mail, so rows containing the other attachments from the same mail will be also be highlighted when the alt- or ctrl key is held down. |
| 05:23.02 | theoddone33 | so now I've downed gruul |
| 05:23.05 | theoddone33 | was fun |
| 05:24.16 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: hmmm, i have not. |
| 05:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not even sure the places i usually go carry that.. |
| 05:24.50 | theoddone33 | kind of like an onyxia-level fight |
| 05:24.52 | theoddone33 | instance even |
| 05:25.00 | hyperChipmunk | if any BM/BMI users would be willing to give those branches a shot in 2.3, i'd appreciate any feedback |
| 05:25.19 | hyperChipmunk | i think i've taken care of everything, but its inevitable that i missed something |
| 05:26.21 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: if your liquor store is anything like mine, they can special-order stuff |
| 05:30.41 | hyperChipmunk | any french speakers here? |
| 05:31.58 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.3 * r54369 10BulkMail2/BulkMail-frFR.lua: |
| 05:31.58 | CIA-7 | BulkMail2: 2.3 |
| 05:31.58 | CIA-7 | - added missing French translation |
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| 05:38.56 | kebinusan | Bleh that sucked |
| 05:39.26 | kebinusan | I accidentially deleted the torrent I was downloading seasons 1-7 of DS9 instead of the Dexter torrent that was going too slow for me |
| 05:39.46 | kebinusan | *cry 15gb downloaded too |
| 05:40.22 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54370 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 05:40.22 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 05:40.22 | CIA-7 | update zhCN local |
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| 05:52.01 | fridgid | is there a way to get an item name in english and in localized form? |
| 05:52.52 | dylanm | fridgid: Why, exactly? |
| 05:53.09 | fridgid | for doing cross client item queries |
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| 05:53.18 | hyperChipmunk | allakhazam shows them |
| 05:53.23 | fridgid | aka i wanna search all my raid members for xxxxx |
| 05:53.30 | fridgid | but won't that fail on client mismatch |
| 05:53.45 | hyperChipmunk | tell your raid to l2english |
| 05:53.50 | fridgid | aka enGB searches for potion, but the items called something else on a deDe or frFR client? |
| 05:53.56 | dylanm | Why not use the item id? Unless I'm missing something. |
| 05:54.07 | fridgid | searching? |
| 05:54.30 | fridgid | i have it setup so i can do queries against my raids inventory |
| 05:54.36 | fridgid | like *potion* |
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| 05:54.42 | fridgid | would search or anything with potion in its name |
| 05:55.03 | fridgid | and i dunno much about eu clients, but i'd assume this would fail, as item names are localized no? |
| 05:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | but you'd want to enter it in your own language anyway |
| 05:55.13 | hyperChipmunk | and see it in all other languages |
| 05:55.20 | hyperChipmunk | so you'd look for all itemids with potion |
| 05:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | then search the item ids |
| 05:55.27 | fridgid | right but aren't there servers with multiple client types? |
| 05:55.30 | fridgid | or is that not so |
| 05:55.37 | dylanm | Pretty much what you'd have to do. |
| 05:55.54 | hyperChipmunk | you expect wow to have some sort of machine translation built in? |
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| 05:56.03 | fridgid | lol, no |
| 05:56.09 | fridgid | UnitClass |
| 05:56.11 | fridgid | does |
| 05:56.28 | hyperChipmunk | that's a 9-entry table |
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| 05:56.41 | hyperChipmunk | and held locally |
| 05:57.07 | fridgid | well i dunno shit about european servers |
| 05:57.13 | fridgid | and i don't have access to a eu account |
| 05:57.30 | fridgid | are there any servers where players can be using different locale of clients |
| 05:57.36 | fridgid | like deDE with frFR or some shit |
| 05:57.42 | dylanm | I have heard that there are. |
| 05:57.47 | fridgid | if thats not possible, then i don't need to mess with it |
| 05:58.01 | fridgid | ok then i need to know how item naming works on those servers |
| 05:58.31 | hyperChipmunk | all you need to know about euro servers is that they suck and need to learn english, noob |
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| 05:58.49 | fridgid | right hyperChipmunk thats a brilliant plan |
| 05:58.56 | fridgid | goto europe and start the conversion |
| 05:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 05:59.14 | dylanm | Oh wait there do appear to be... hm. |
| 05:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | i would, but euros suck |
| 05:59.39 | hyperChipmunk | maybe if they learned english, i could tolerate them |
| 05:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 06:04.11 | dylanm | Seems like the servers have official languages |
| 06:04.11 | aestil | so, the 4th boss in hyjal. you have to run out of range? |
| 06:04.17 | aestil | of the reign of fires? |
| 06:04.24 | _Ragnor | yes |
| 06:04.42 | _Ragnor | ranged dps run for your life |
| 06:05.15 | fitz__ | he |
| 06:05.16 | fitz__ | h |
| 06:05.31 | fitz__ | some guy sent me mail asking why the work request he put in wasn't done |
| 06:05.40 | fitz__ | so I replied saying that it wasn't in my area's work queue, it was elsewhere |
| 06:05.47 | Xinhuan | hi ragnor. |
| 06:05.51 | fitz__ | so, of course, lateral thinker that he is, he created a hew work request, in my queue |
| 06:06.06 | fitz__ | unfortunately for him, the policy for my queue is that I move work requests to the OTHER queue for approval first |
| 06:06.10 | fitz__ | good times |
| 06:06.16 | Xinhuan | HOW IS LIFE? |
| 06:07.01 | _Ragnor | annoying either someone has recently broken media or aguf and quartz stopped having textures for some other reason |
| 06:07.08 | _Ragnor | shared media* |
| 06:08.04 | Xinhuan | i don't see any changes |
| 06:08.50 | _Ragnor | did you update libraries etc within the last 15-30min though? |
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| 06:10.12 | Xinhuan | i mean, i don't see any changes to any of those libraries in the last 2 days of commits |
| 06:10.27 | _Ragnor | yeah neither |
| 06:10.54 | _Ragnor | none of those addons or libraries have changed and yet it was fine yesterday, I got home ran wau and logged in and neither have textures |
| 06:11.14 | _Ragnor | no errors in bugsack either |
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| 06:13.46 | CIA-7 | 03starinnia * r54371 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Added location check for unstable flasks **untested as my guild is not doing Gruul's Lair** |
| 06:17.12 | CIA-7 | 03starinnia * r54372 10SimpleMD/ (SMD_Menu.lua SMD_Timers.lua SimpleMD.lua): |
| 06:17.12 | CIA-7 | SimpleMD: |
| 06:17.12 | CIA-7 | -Added auto-clear to test bars (makes them go away if you run static) |
| 06:17.12 | CIA-7 | -Reverse and Static options should now affect live bars (drycoded) |
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| 06:36.32 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r691 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/01_06_Shadowglen.lua: TG: Shadowglen finetune |
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| 07:28.47 | pakoz | yo, anyone have the 411 on raid boss AP, improved demo and CoR? |
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| 07:33.12 | vhaarr | pakoz: afaik, 3/5 imp. demo is enough unless you use CoR, in which case 5/5 imp demo should negate the whole bonus |
| 07:33.58 | ramoz | 3/5 is how much AP? |
| 07:34.27 | vhaarr | 372? |
| 07:34.29 | vhaarr | I think |
| 07:34.46 | vhaarr | base 300 + 24% |
| 07:35.44 | ramoz | CoR adds 124 atp |
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| 07:39.21 | Xuerian | farming... ten hours... mining.. 200->375 and 250 adamantite ore... >.> |
| 07:39.39 | Lukian | nice :D |
| 07:39.57 | Lukian | gonna prospect that crap? XD |
| 07:40.02 | ramoz | if you're as lucky as i was yesterday you'll have 50 blue gems! |
| 07:40.03 | Xuerian | four rich khorium veins three blue gems way too FRICKIN much fel iron... |
| 07:40.25 | Xuerian | hah |
| 07:40.29 | Xuerian | 50? |
| 07:40.34 | Xuerian | Geez. >.o |
| 07:40.50 | Xuerian | 1k+g? |
| 07:40.56 | ramoz | i have no idea |
| 07:41.00 | ramoz | they just rot in my bank |
| 07:41.02 | Lukian | I usually get about 4 gems per 40 ore. |
| 07:41.18 | Lukian | so you should get 20 at least |
| 07:41.20 | Xuerian | Duno what I've been doing wrong then |
| 07:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | having bad luck, obviously. you should stop that. |
| 07:42.08 | ramoz | how much JC do you need to prospect Adamamntite? Also, does higher skill increase your chance of blue gems |
| 07:42.25 | Xuerian | Oh |
| 07:42.26 | Xuerian | haha |
| 07:42.30 | Xuerian | You're talking about prospecting |
| 07:42.47 | theoddone33 | prospecting is fun |
| 07:42.50 | Xuerian | I was having a "wtf 4 blue gems along with 40 ore mined wtf GIEV" |
| 07:42.52 | Xuerian | *moment |
| 07:42.52 | ramoz | try getting some sleep? |
| 07:42.57 | Xuerian | PAH |
| 07:43.02 | Xuerian | sleep for weak |
| 07:43.08 | Lukian | hehehe |
| 07:43.13 | ramoz | lol |
| 07:44.49 | CIA-4 | 03daviesh * r54373 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 07:44.49 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:44.49 | CIA-4 | - Arena 3 weapons bugfix |
| 07:45.09 | Xuerian | Well, I do have a JC who is trying to level, maybe I could give him the ore to prospect in return for gems & sell those |
| 07:45.27 | Xuerian | In guild, that is |
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| 07:47.27 | Bejitt | fish down? |
| 07:47.34 | vhaarr | seems so |
| 07:50.23 | ramoz | vhaarr: there is a cap on how much you can debuff a boss? |
| 07:51.13 | vhaarr | 40 debuffs? |
| 07:51.16 | Bejitt | 40 |
| 07:52.01 | CIA-4 | 03orionshock * r54374 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (. SickOfClickingDailies.toc core.lua localization-enUS.lua): |
| 07:52.01 | CIA-4 | SickOfClickingDailies: |
| 07:52.01 | CIA-4 | -Inital import from google code. |
| 07:52.02 | ramoz | i meant 'why only 3/5 in Demoshout?" |
| 07:52.21 | vhaarr | because bosses don't have more AP than that |
| 07:52.30 | vhaarr | except if you give it to them with CoR |
| 07:52.47 | ramoz | hm, ok |
| 07:56.06 | Orionshock_ | is the author of Talented here? |
| 07:56.39 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r54375 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 07:56.39 | CIA-4 | Recount: |
| 07:56.39 | CIA-4 | - Fixed taburiss's typo mistake. |
| 07:56.39 | CIA-4 | - to taburiss: please check your editor, it make some amazing typo error. XD |
| 08:01.01 | Lukian | hehe |
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| 08:21.47 | theoddone33 | so if I've got a very old version of WoW on my laptop |
| 08:22.04 | theoddone33 | and I want to update it to the newest, I can just copy all the patch files from my desktop install over and run something, right? |
| 08:22.21 | Lukian | yeah, or you just copy your whole wow folder. |
| 08:22.36 | Lukian | wow doesn't actually need installing |
| 08:22.41 | theoddone33 | hm yeah that's a better idea |
| 08:22.48 | theoddone33 | 9.07GB, heh |
| 08:22.56 | Lukian | you just need the data folder and the root files iirc |
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| 08:33.53 | Lukian | lol? |
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| 09:01.19 | Fin | haste: not going to answer my question in the non-Ace addons thread? :( |
| 09:01.38 | haste | wat? |
| 09:03.42 | haste | oh |
| 09:04.26 | haste | butsu -> ã¶ã¤ -> 物 -> stolen goods / loot |
| 09:06.07 | Kalroth | haste hates Fin |
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| 09:10.48 | haste | think it's more the fact that I delayed answering, thus forgetting to answer at some point :p |
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| 09:14.50 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r54376 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: modified Gear.Trinket dataminer as proposed by Toadkiller. |
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| 09:17.02 | fridgid | icon names are the some on non enUS clients no? |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-4 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r54377 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Gas-2.2/Babble-Gas-2.2.lua: |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-4 | Babble-2.2/Babble-Gas-2.2: |
| 09:17.09 | CIA-4 | - Added keys for air and water and their notes, and for the Windy Cloud |
| 09:17.24 | fridgid | like "Spell_Nature_Regeneration" would produce the same icon on any client no? |
| 09:17.59 | vhaarr | fridgid: yes |
| 09:17.59 | Fin | haste: aha. thanks. |
| 09:18.31 | fridgid | next question, item ids are the same across clients right? how are names handled on servers with different clients? |
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| 09:18.40 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: is there any way to get the list of autoinclude / exclude items to be alphabetized in BMI? some of my lists are getting really long, and it's difficult to find stuff to remove :) |
| 09:18.56 | Kalroth | Hooray for hugs |
| 09:18.59 | Fin | haste: and, yeah, I do that all the time :) |
| 09:19.08 | Fin | you're such a kool kat, Kalroth |
| 09:19.21 | Kalroth | You only say that to make me purr |
| 09:19.29 | fridgid | like if im in an enGB client and link [Thunderfury] is it called [Le Thunderfuroux] on a frFR client but with the same item id? |
| 09:19.33 | Fin | you love it |
| 09:19.46 | Kalroth | fridgid: Yes, item ids are identical |
| 09:19.53 | cladhaire | yes, that's why itemIds exist |
| 09:19.54 | Kalroth | fridgid: The item text is included in the item link |
| 09:19.55 | fridgid | what about item names? are those licalized? |
| 09:20.01 | fridgid | oh |
| 09:20.03 | fridgid | ok |
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| 09:20.32 | Kalroth | That's why you can relink items linked by germans |
| 09:20.38 | cladhaire | it'll show the text in the link, but it will create the correct tooltip |
| 09:21.00 | fridgid | ok well is there a way to search for a class of items? i have a mod that lets me 'search' other raiders inv for items by name |
| 09:21.13 | fridgid | aka i wanted to search for potions |
| 09:21.47 | fridgid | for enus i can just iterator over the inv and store item names in a table, but a regex fro potion works well there, but across clients it sucks |
| 09:21.52 | fridgid | iterate* |
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| 09:22.58 | cladhaire | you could alter the addon to use itemids instead of names |
| 09:22.58 | Fin | Kalroth: s/germans/der krauts/ @ ! |
| 09:22.59 | cladhaire | wouldn't be horribly difficult. |
| 09:23.00 | haste | fridgid: you can use GetItemCount(itemid|itemlink) |
| 09:23.01 | Fin | s/@/#/ |
| 09:23.22 | Kalroth | Mein Lederhosen ist kaput! |
| 09:23.33 | fridgid | right, but how could i do a search for potions? |
| 09:24.14 | fridgid | i guess its not something i really need to incorperate, but for what i use it for its nice, i just dunno how i could search for a class of items like that across clients |
| 09:24.16 | Arrowmaster | if you modified the mod then everybody would need to be using the modified version |
| 09:24.28 | fridgid | well yeah |
| 09:24.32 | cladhaire | you need to build the classes of items |
| 09:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | take the pt set with all the potions and query for those IDs |
| 09:24.35 | cladhaire | which is non-trivial |
| 09:24.37 | cladhaire | but you could use something like pt |
| 09:24.45 | cladhaire | but that's an awful lot of communication. |
| 09:24.49 | fridgid | yeah |
| 09:25.04 | hyperChipmunk | or search all itemids for "potion" and check for thos ethat match |
| 09:25.08 | Arrowmaster | unless you embeded pt into the mod and sent a query on a set name |
| 09:25.10 | hyperChipmunk | if you want a text search |
| 09:25.34 | fridgid | i guess i could just get translations for the 2 or 3 queries like that and i18n them |
| 09:26.03 | hyperChipmunk | there's probably a bliz cat for potions too |
| 09:26.10 | fridgid | yar |
| 09:26.25 | hyperChipmunk | you could just query for that |
| 09:26.49 | fridgid | i believe thats what haste was talking about, but i know almost dick about itemids |
| 09:26.53 | fridgid | i'll read up on it |
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| 09:49.55 | CIA-4 | 03jerry 072.3 * r54381 10Talented/Talented/ (Locales/zhTW.lua locales.xml): Talented: (2.3 branch) merge zhTW locale from trunk |
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| 09:54.59 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r692 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (7 files): TourGuide - Adding ally 28-33 guides, need edited a bit |
| 09:54.59 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r693 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (12 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Cleanup of submitted ally 27-33 |
| 09:58.37 | Orionshock_ | jerry you in IRC? |
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| 10:12.06 | Industrial | im in ur ircz bein jerryz |
| 10:12.16 | Orionshock | lol |
| 10:12.29 | Orionshock | does anyone know how to actualy Name a template in tallented? |
| 10:15.37 | Orionshock | nmd i found it >.> |
| 10:18.55 | Fin | heh |
| 10:18.58 | Fin | took me ages to figure that out |
| 10:20.37 | Industrial | Why would you have an addon like that? You could bookmark a spec from wowhead.. |
| 10:21.05 | Industrial | (In fact I have one for every spec for every class, in case I'd want to play one some time, or I forgot what I was speccing to with a char) |
| 10:21.17 | Antiarc | People that respec regularly can use it to save talent specs and apply them with one click |
| 10:21.34 | Industrial | oh it specs for you |
| 10:21.38 | Antiarc | yes |
| 10:21.43 | Industrial | tha's nice then :3 |
| 10:24.08 | Orionshock | i can also evaluate other pplz specs |
| 10:24.26 | Orionshock | w/o having to know the tool tip and layout of every class |
| 10:24.32 | Orionshock | b/c it gives me them |
| 10:25.17 | SunTsu | And you can import from and export to wowhead etc. |
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| 10:30.05 | Fin | Industrial: what d'you mean, why would you have an addon like that? |
| 10:30.27 | Fin | Industrial: the "Apply Template" feature is awesome! also being able to import specs is nifty |
| 10:30.38 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r54382 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:30.38 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:30.39 | CIA-4 | - Two drop locations adjusted |
| 10:30.55 | Fin | personally I just like to be able to set up the spec beforehand and use the apply template thing - makes flipping between shadow and holy so much easier |
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| 10:34.03 | vithos | i <3 talented and i don't even respec ever |
| 10:34.26 | vithos | because lately i've been saving some friends specs as templates just out of curiousity |
| 10:35.46 | Fin | awesome! another mod for autocompleting quests - *just* what I needed |
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| 10:36.58 | Ellipsis | well, at least you can be extra sure they're complete |
| 10:37.00 | Fin | why only the other day I was thinking to myself, "what the world needs is an addon to automatically choose quest completion gossip options for me" |
| 10:38.10 | Tigerdyr | hm.. there is no way of knowing wether you have completed a quest, unless someone tries to share that quest with you is there? |
| 10:38.22 | Fin | I've wondered that |
| 10:38.31 | Ellipsis | not unless you have an addon saving that info as you quest |
| 10:38.35 | Fin | I would've thought there'd be a function for checking it somehow |
| 10:38.52 | SunTsu | Tigerdyr: That's why there are quest log addons that actually deserve that name |
| 10:38.58 | Fin | I am often wrong with my "there must be ... <x>" |
| 10:39.03 | Fin | +s |
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| 10:42.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.56 | Orionshock | ya like bliz would give us that... |
| 10:43.15 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r694 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/01_11_Dun_Morogh.lua: TourGuide - Adding Dun Morogh (1-11) guide |
| 10:43.15 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r695 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/01_11_Dun_Morogh.lua: TourGuide - Fixed Accept of class-specific quests |
| 10:43.16 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r696 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (4 files): TourGuide - Split gnome and dorf starter quests into 2 files, to avoid class overlap |
| 10:43.17 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r697 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/03_11_Dun_Morogh.lua: TourGuide - Cleanup of submitted Dun Morough guide |
| 10:43.31 | Tigerdyr | SunTsu: yeh.. but, that sort of requires you to have run it since level 1 |
| 10:43.37 | Tigerdyr | Orionshock: would be nice :) |
| 10:43.56 | Tigerdyr | Orionshock: or just GetQuestsCompleted(); |
| 10:44.05 | CIA-4 | 03diablohu * r54383 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 10:44.05 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:44.05 | CIA-4 | - zhCN update |
| 10:44.16 | Orionshock | GetQuestsCompleted would be a long ass list |
| 10:44.21 | Tigerdyr | yeh ;-) |
| 10:44.28 | Orionshock | you could do the AH / Tallent style |
| 10:44.35 | Orionshock | GetQuestsCompleted() |
| 10:44.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.03 | Tigerdyr | yep |
| 10:45.16 | Orionshock | then you could quiry GetQuestDone("Name"[,ID]) |
| 10:45.22 | Orionshock | tho we don't have quest id's |
| 10:45.32 | Orionshock | and thy'ed have to give em to us |
| 10:46.03 | Tigerdyr | I agree that it's not very likely to get it, but it would be nice. |
| 10:46.09 | Tigerdyr | <dreams a little> |
| 10:48.40 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r54384 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:48.40 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-4 | - Zul'Aman loot finalized |
| 10:48.59 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r54385 10FuBar_RecountFu/RecountFu.lua: |
| 10:48.59 | CIA-4 | FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 10:48.59 | CIA-4 | - Added zhTW translation. |
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| 10:58.21 | kebinusan | bleh next time I decide I should rework my ui I think I should just go back to the wow default interface and suck it up |
| 10:59.03 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 10:59.09 | Ellipsis | don't even joke about that |
| 10:59.32 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:59.44 | winkiller | I have so many freakin mods, not funny anymore |
| 10:59.52 | kebinusan | yeah the same |
| 11:00.14 | kebinusan | I spent the better part of the weekend reworking my ui to be more aesthetically pleasing |
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| 11:01.08 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/kebinusan/kebui.jpg |
| 11:01.56 | Diao | what graphic is that o_O |
| 11:02.10 | kebinusan | I gutted it from some ui that used discord art |
| 11:02.15 | kebinusan | lemme dig up the name |
| 11:02.15 | Diao | ah |
| 11:02.23 | Diao | looks interesting |
| 11:02.46 | kebinusan | then just used some ee panels and changed it a little to fit what I wanted |
| 11:02.52 | Ellipsis | is it scaled funny or something? that circle doesn't look round to me |
| 11:03.31 | kebinusan | heh yeah, 1280x1024 is 5:4 not 4:3 |
| 11:03.31 | evl | kebinusan: what's the combat log thingy? |
| 11:03.37 | Ellipsis | ah, I see |
| 11:03.38 | kebinusan | eavesdrop |
| 11:03.43 | evl | is it nise? |
| 11:03.57 | kebinusan | yeah I like it, but its a love it or hate it thing with most people I know |
| 11:05.02 | Dezzi | kebinusan: odd >_> |
| 11:05.12 | Dezzi | I didn't know that till now |
| 11:05.22 | Ellipsis | you has interesting keybinds |
| 11:05.28 | Dezzi | I run one monitor at 1280x1024 and another at 1600x1200 |
| 11:05.35 | Dezzi | but I'm pretty sure they're both the same aspect ratio |
| 11:05.39 | Dezzi | ones a CRT, the other an LCD |
| 11:06.01 | Dezzi | and I think its 4:3 |
| 11:06.13 | winkiller | "pretty sure" |
| 11:06.25 | winkiller | why don't you just calc 1280/1024? :P |
| 11:06.31 | winkiller | would be x960 btw |
| 11:06.33 | Dezzi | I just did |
| 11:06.40 | Ellipsis | they're not quite the same |
| 11:06.50 | Dezzi | no I meant the monitors themselves |
| 11:06.55 | Dezzi | are the same aspect ratio |
| 11:06.57 | Dezzi | so ones wrong |
| 11:07.17 | Dezzi | actually I think the LCD I have is 5:4 >_> |
| 11:09.03 | Orionshock | has anyone done the Bash'ir landing event? |
| 11:09.39 | Wobin | I've gotten to the third vendor |
| 11:09.44 | Wobin | but never actually completed it |
| 11:10.15 | kebinusan | Yeah the I just use keybinds that basically reference hte buttons under my left hand and various shift modifiers, I click some of the more obscure things tho |
| 11:11.39 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 11:11.53 | kebinusan | Orionshock: I could never round up 5 people to do it |
| 11:11.59 | RaydenUni | alarm was supposed to go off at 1am so i could run KZ with my guild. never went off and it's now 6am |
| 11:12.00 | kebinusan | I tried solo once and died a horrible death |
| 11:12.02 | Orionshock | kebinusan: it's a 25man |
| 11:12.03 | RaydenUni | think they are still running it? |
| 11:12.11 | Arrowmaster | Dezzi: 1280x1024 is not a 4:3 aspect ratio, you need to run at 1280x960 to get a 4:3 aspect ratio |
| 11:12.44 | RaydenUni | pitbull completely crapped out on me the other day! |
| 11:12.49 | RaydenUni | forgot all of my settings |
| 11:13.05 | RaydenUni | now i can't figure out how to make the debuff icons line up horizontally across the top |
| 11:14.12 | Arrowmaster | i should read more before replying when tabing back to irc |
| 11:14.21 | Arrowmaster | so i dont answer already answered questions |
| 11:14.40 | RaydenUni | nah |
| 11:15.47 | kebinusan | Frame / Other / Auras |
| 11:15.50 | kebinusan | or thereabouts |
| 11:16.01 | RaydenUni | i will fire it up |
| 11:16.05 | RaydenUni | i found settings to move it |
| 11:16.12 | Wobin | kebinusan: it's definitely a raid encounter |
| 11:16.15 | RaydenUni | but all i could get was to make it expand vertically |
| 11:16.18 | RaydenUni | what encounter? |
| 11:16.24 | Wobin | What you do is take your Gruul raid and do the event =P |
| 11:16.29 | Wobin | Bash'ir Landing |
| 11:16.34 | RaydenUni | the ogrila one? |
| 11:16.49 | Wobin | It's more Sha'tari Skyguard |
| 11:16.56 | Orionshock | any way to change the in world font for npc names |
| 11:16.56 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 11:17.00 | Wobin | Where you go to the forge |
| 11:17.05 | Wobin | and kill waves of mobs |
| 11:17.06 | RaydenUni | well there is a 5 man part, a 10 man part, and a 25 man part |
| 11:17.10 | Orionshock | & no not with aloft |
| 11:17.10 | Wobin | and die to horrific fps loss |
| 11:17.12 | vithos | perhaps not the point, but you're using Alt-Auras in Pitbull, right? |
| 11:17.25 | CIA-4 | 03scorpio0920 * r54386 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: |
| 11:17.25 | CIA-4 | BigWigs: |
| 11:17.25 | CIA-4 | Vashj: Update zhTW translation. |
| 11:18.42 | kebinusan | And as a reward you get to purchase mediocre metagems |
| 11:18.45 | Wobin | s'true |
| 11:18.53 | Wobin | sad really |
| 11:18.59 | Wobin | although the unstable potions are alright |
| 11:19.07 | Wobin | but the gems are disappointing |
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| 11:19.18 | vithos | i really do hate that event |
| 11:19.53 | vithos | because it has my gruul flasks |
| 11:19.59 | Orionshock | imho TBC is mediocer so it fits |
| 11:20.14 | vithos | and i've never actually been able to purchase them |
| 11:21.36 | SunTsu | vithos: Just get your gruul raid to do that event, too |
| 11:22.29 | vithos | i have |
| 11:22.47 | vithos | my client lagged out. |
| 11:22.56 | vithos | every time i relogged in too |
| 11:23.22 | vithos | but at least there's mana pots to spend shards on now |
| 11:23.24 | Wobin | rofl |
| 11:23.24 | Wobin | http://thesurrealist.co.uk/feedback?who=seller&quality=on&speed=on&rating=on&maxlen=80&mood=positive&vocab=frivolous |
| 11:23.30 | Wobin | I'm so using that the next time =) |
| 11:23.57 | Wobin | "Quality of item was top-notch. Very, very swift delivery. Seller is desirable. A+" |
| 11:24.21 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 11:24.54 | vithos | haha |
| 11:25.43 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:25.44 | Orionshock | Item was of the most terrible quality. Wretched delivery. Exceptionally angry. E- |
| 11:27.19 | Ellipsis | Quality of item was tolerable. Notably fast-ish delivery. Quotidian packaging. D+ |
| 11:27.25 | Ellipsis | "notably fast-ish"? |
| 11:27.32 | Wobin | hehe |
| 11:28.03 | Wobin | although |
| 11:28.08 | Wobin | for feedback, nothing beats http://xkcd.com/325/ |
| 11:28.33 | Ellipsis | there's an xkcd for every conversation |
| 11:28.59 | Wobin | This is true |
| 11:29.19 | Fin | that's what xkcd does |
| 11:29.27 | Fin | (so well) |
| 11:31.50 | CIA-4 | 03adirelle * r54387 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (MouseWheelBinding/MouseWheelBinding.lua SimpleSelfRebuff.lua): |
| 11:31.50 | CIA-4 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 11:31.50 | CIA-4 | - trying harder to setup the mousewheel bindings, |
| 11:31.50 | CIA-4 | - force disabling of offhand buff when a non-weapon item is put in offhand. |
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| 11:42.23 | RaydenUni | the latest xkcd is boring |
| 11:42.33 | RaydenUni | he might be slipping |
| 11:43.51 | Orionshock | wtb someone to make a sane in game event orginizer for guilds |
| 11:43.54 | Orionshock | please |
| 11:43.58 | Orionshock | 100$ |
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| 11:45.20 | CIA-4 | 03ammo * r54388 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: typo fix, meh |
| 11:46.16 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 11:46.20 | RaydenUni | pitbull buff icons |
| 11:46.31 | RaydenUni | other/auras/ ?? |
| 11:47.04 | vithos | yes, or alt-auras if you're using that module instead (which i think is less buggy?) |
| 11:47.22 | RaydenUni | i don't think i have that |
| 11:47.38 | RaydenUni | oh buff side |
| 11:47.41 | RaydenUni | didn't see that before |
| 11:48.59 | RaydenUni | so now it's putting the icons on top of the life bar |
| 11:49.04 | RaydenUni | when i tell it "top left" |
| 11:49.24 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54389 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua: |
| 11:49.24 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 11:49.24 | CIA-4 | -- The Fire Resistance Totem --> Water Totems, Frost Resistance Totem --> Fire Totems |
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| 11:50.09 | RaydenUni | just top works i guess |
| 11:50.42 | RaydenUni | uh |
| 11:50.48 | RaydenUni | can't set side on buffs for party members? |
| 11:51.20 | RaydenUni | nor for raids... |
| 11:53.56 | vithos | *cough*Alt-Auras*cough* |
| 11:54.23 | Dezzi | RaydenUni: you need to change the direction to left then down |
| 11:54.29 | Dezzi | for it to not be in the lifebar |
| 11:55.08 | RaydenUni | it was right then up or something |
| 11:55.12 | RaydenUni | so that was correct |
| 11:55.31 | RaydenUni | if i just use top then it works for buffs |
| 11:55.36 | RaydenUni | hopefully for debuffs too |
| 11:57.21 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76997 |
| 11:57.27 | Orionshock | why does that look conveluded? |
| 11:57.36 | RaydenUni | convoluted |
| 11:57.49 | Orionshock | why does that look bad? |
| 11:57.50 | Orionshock | * |
| 11:58.21 | RaydenUni | doesn't look bad |
| 11:58.25 | RaydenUni | i have no idea what ftnq is though |
| 11:58.34 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.54 | Orionshock | basicly it's a single point function to handle the itteration and looping of '...' |
| 11:59.55 | RaydenUni | i'd call it findNextQuest |
| 12:00.05 | RaydenUni | but other than that, it's just a couple if statements |
| 12:00.07 | RaydenUni | does't look bad |
| 12:00.22 | RaydenUni | although there might be a cleaner way to do it |
| 12:00.31 | RaydenUni | i'd have to pay more attention to what you are trying to do |
| 12:02.34 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua |
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| 12:04.07 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 12:04.18 | Orionshock | i just realized what i just did there... |
| 12:04.21 | Orionshock | oops.. |
| 12:04.24 | Orionshock | bad idea |
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| 12:04.43 | Orionshock | i have GOSSIP SHOW and the QUEST_PROGRESS looping back on each ohter |
| 12:05.14 | Orionshock | so i you have a quest on an npc that you haven't turned in; it'll continue to go from one page to the other untill you walk away |
| 12:06.56 | RaydenUni | nice |
| 12:16.28 | Orionshock | im not sure tho if that is a good thing |
| 12:20.07 | RaydenUni | yeah how do i get the debuff to be on the top right and go left? |
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| 12:23.59 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: , side is top |
| 12:24.05 | Orionshock | then go to direction and select right then up |
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| 12:25.41 | RaydenUni | no |
| 12:25.41 | RaydenUni | that puts it on the top left |
| 12:25.41 | Saladin | How do I make ArcHUD display target health as hp, not %? |
| 12:25.41 | RaydenUni | and then it goes further left |
| 12:25.55 | Orionshock | ok what exactly are you asking it to do? |
| 12:26.08 | RaydenUni | i want it to be above the frame |
| 12:26.09 | RaydenUni | on the right |
| 12:26.14 | RaydenUni | i can't get it to do that |
| 12:26.20 | Orionshock | like totaly off to the right? |
| 12:26.21 | RaydenUni | if i use "top" it does it,but on the left |
| 12:26.34 | RaydenUni | it should extend no further to the right than the frame |
| 12:26.40 | RaydenUni | but it should be completely above it |
| 12:26.49 | Orionshock | ya |
| 12:26.52 | RaydenUni | the same way it does for the top left |
| 12:26.59 | RaydenUni | doesn't look like this is possible |
| 12:27.05 | Orionshock | you might need to adjust the # per row |
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| 12:28.21 | Saladin | How do I make ArcHUD display target health as hp, not %? |
| 12:28.29 | Saladin | S'il vous plait |
| 12:28.51 | RaydenUni | the crap |
| 12:29.00 | RaydenUni | if i set it to not "split" then i can't even pick a location |
| 12:29.06 | Orionshock | lol |
| 12:29.13 | Orionshock | the options move dynamicly |
| 12:29.15 | RaydenUni | oh the option MOVED |
| 12:29.19 | RaydenUni | that' is retarded |
| 12:29.23 | RaydenUni | i should slap whoever did that |
| 12:29.34 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 12:29.36 | RaydenUni | that's what i want |
| 12:29.38 | Orionshock | he hasn't been on irc for a while |
| 12:29.38 | RaydenUni | don't split |
| 12:29.40 | RaydenUni | set to top |
| 12:30.07 | Orionshock | top left is missleading |
| 12:30.44 | Orionshock | it's left side - top orented |
| 12:30.52 | RaydenUni | should be left-top |
| 12:30.55 | RaydenUni | not top-left |
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| 12:31.47 | Saladin | so, erm |
| 12:32.04 | Saladin | Does anyone know how to make ArcHUD display enemies' hp? |
| 12:32.06 | Orionshock | Saladin: play with it till it works is my sugestion |
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| 12:32.33 | RaydenUni | how decent would a warlock/spriest arena team be? |
| 12:33.08 | JoshBorke | mdj |
| 12:33.09 | JoshBorke | meh |
| 12:33.11 | Lukian | Saladin, start using IceHUD, It's actually up to date |
| 12:33.55 | RaydenUni | who would be a good partner for a spriest? |
| 12:34.04 | Saladin | will try Lukian |
| 12:34.32 | JoshBorke | RaydenUni: in 2v2? spriest sucks =/ |
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| 12:34.46 | JoshBorke | i run with a mage and it works ok |
| 12:35.14 | RaydenUni | unfortunately spriest is what i have |
| 12:35.29 | RaydenUni | i'm thinking we might have a good shot at chain fearing/silencing a caster |
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| 12:41.10 | Orionshock | warriors: [Gilded Thorium Cloak] vs [Devilshark Cape] ? |
| 12:41.31 | Orionshock | whats better? |
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| 12:42.04 | Orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28660 |
| 12:42.13 | Orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27804 |
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| 12:43.38 | RaydenUni | both of those suck for me |
| 12:44.08 | RaydenUni | where can i download 2.3? |
| 12:44.09 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: the blue |
| 12:44.18 | winkiller | <3 my gilded on druid |
| 12:44.24 | JoshBorke | by far the blue is better |
| 12:44.46 | JoshBorke | you lose 8 stam and 4 def but gain 18 dodge and 29 sb |
| 12:44.48 | Orionshock | .... |
| 12:44.54 | RaydenUni | my gear is coming along quite nicely |
| 12:45.01 | RaydenUni | i almost have my spellstrike pants |
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| 12:45.17 | RaydenUni | and after that i need new trinkets, new belt, and then new weapon and offhand and i'm set |
| 12:45.41 | RaydenUni | granted |
| 12:45.45 | RaydenUni | the belt will cost a TON |
| 12:45.55 | RaydenUni | and the weapon and offhand will require many SL and heroic runs |
| 12:46.20 | Orionshock | whats the armor cap for druids? |
| 12:46.24 | Orionshock | 35k? |
| 12:46.38 | winkiller | depends |
| 12:46.43 | winkiller | it's 75% |
| 12:46.44 | Orionshock | no depending |
| 12:47.00 | Orionshock | 75% mitigation is the cap; what ammount of armor caps you? |
| 12:47.03 | winkiller | so 70 against raidboss (73) |
| 12:48.00 | Orionshock | i think it's 35k, cuz in kara i'll crack 36% and still be at 75% mit |
| 12:48.14 | Orionshock | and drop to 25k and be at just over 65 |
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| 12:51.11 | RaydenUni | where can i download 2.3? |
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| 12:55.28 | Diao | rofl |
| 12:55.35 | Diao | i love scrub warriors who spam emotes nonstop |
| 12:55.36 | Diao | and die to me |
| 12:55.41 | Diao | it's so amusing |
| 12:56.08 | Diao | this badly geared arms warrior is spamming me with /golfclap when i soloed him, 2 rogues, and another warrior |
| 12:56.12 | Diao | as a prot warrior... |
| 12:56.56 | silentium | RaydenUni: WoW\Cache\BackgroundDownload.torrent ;) |
| 12:57.02 | RaydenUni | it doesn't work |
| 12:57.11 | RaydenUni | on my desktop it loses connection before it starts |
| 12:57.18 | RaydenUni | and my laptop gets t 23mb and then stops |
| 12:57.28 | Xinhuan | sounds like a connection issue ;p |
| 12:57.29 | silentium | it did for me, I used Azureus t odl it in less than an hour |
| 12:57.39 | RaydenUni | never been a problem before |
| 12:57.40 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 12:57.43 | Xinhuan | azureus works too here |
| 12:57.43 | silentium | s/t odl/to dl/ |
| 12:57.56 | Xinhuan | although the blizz downloader did it faster |
| 12:58.03 | Xinhuan | 222 mb in like 16 min |
| 12:58.32 | RaydenUni | i'll try it with azureus |
| 12:59.11 | silentium | the blizz downloader either loads awfully slow, or with unlimited upload so it spams my adsl line and the download is slowed down again |
| 12:59.45 | aeon|capullo | silentium: US or EU? |
| 12:59.54 | silentium | EU |
| 13:01.40 | aeon|capullo | hmm, i forgot to put the patch on my ftp, sorry |
| 13:02.16 | Diao | i use utorrent |
| 13:02.37 | aeon|capullo | maybe you have to forward the torrentport to your local ip |
| 13:02.46 | aeon|capullo | so its faster |
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| 13:03.55 | silentium | allowing incomming connections is always a good idea with p2p technology |
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| 13:04.21 | Diao | yea if you're behind a router |
| 13:08.27 | _rane | any ideas why i can sometimes see people's talent builds in their tooltips? i don't think i have any addon that does that |
| 13:08.27 | RaydenUni | is this on ptr? |
| 13:08.27 | _rane | no |
| 13:08.30 | RaydenUni | you are hallucinating? |
| 13:09.24 | Ellipsis | _rane, cowtip? |
| 13:13.30 | Toadkiller | cowtip |
| 13:13.43 | _rane | i have that |
| 13:13.49 | Ellipsis | well that's what shows it |
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| 13:14.00 | _rane | from where does it get the data? |
| 13:14.06 | _rane | and why doesn't it work always? |
| 13:14.12 | SunTsu | _rane: rock |
| 13:14.13 | Ellipsis | it queries the user |
| 13:14.17 | Toadkiller | because not everyone has cowtip |
| 13:14.30 | Ellipsis | if they're using rock, and haven't disabled the talent broadcast, their spec is visible to you |
| 13:14.56 | _rane | ok, thanks |
| 13:14.59 | RaydenUni | yay azureus is almost down downloading |
| 13:15.12 | RaydenUni | what happens if i install the patch now? |
| 13:16.35 | SunTsu | I can't wait for patch 2.3 - I now have 3 alts with level 30+ and one who will be 30 on wednesday, hopefully |
| 13:17.26 | RaydenUni | 4 alts? |
| 13:17.27 | RaydenUni | dang |
| 13:17.30 | RaydenUni | i have one at 29 |
| 13:17.32 | RaydenUni | i use her for bg |
| 13:17.59 | SunTsu | RaydenUni: I've been a little bit tired of my main lately ;) |
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| 13:19.39 | CIA-4 | 03toadkiller * r54390 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarClassButton.lua Core.lua): |
| 13:19.39 | CIA-4 | AutoBar : |
| 13:19.39 | CIA-4 | -- Cooldowns now working for spells. |
| 13:20.22 | silentium | RaydenUni: you cant install your downloaded patch data yet as it's still missing a file or 2, but once the servers are patched you'll be able to complete the download and you won't have to download the whole huge package any more |
| 13:20.58 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 13:21.00 | RaydenUni | odd |
| 13:21.10 | RaydenUni | i'm not sure i understand how that works with a torrent |
| 13:21.12 | silentium | just make sure you place the Azureus download in the right subfolder of your WoW installation |
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| 13:21.32 | [SW]Dodg3 | hi all, anyone can tell me what frameType i have to use for unitframes? |
| 13:21.45 | [Ammo] | SecureUnitButton |
| 13:21.49 | Josh_Borke | [SW]Dodg3: what ammo said |
| 13:22.03 | silentium | easy: a torrent can contain multiple files, atm it holds 2 files and once the full patch is released a new torrent will be served to your client, containing those 2 files, some more data and the installer executable |
| 13:22.12 | Josh_Borke | your frame has to inherit from SecureUnitButton and must be of Button type |
| 13:22.30 | [SW]Dodge | thanks :) |
| 13:22.51 | RaydenUni | World of Warcraft\Patches is where i saved it |
| 13:23.51 | RaydenUni | oh well |
| 13:24.03 | RaydenUni | worst case i download it after it is all out and it takes me 10 minutes |
| 13:24.37 | silentium | so you have 2 mpq files in the folder "World of Warcraft\Patches\WoW-2.2.3-to-2.3.0-whatever"? then it's all fine |
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| 13:25.35 | [SW]Dodge | coldn't find inherited node "SecureUnitButton" |
| 13:25.43 | [SW]Dodge | couldn'T |
| 13:26.13 | Josh_Borke | [SW]Dodge: inherited node? |
| 13:26.18 | [Ammo] | SecureUnitButtonTemplate |
| 13:26.21 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 13:26.54 | [SW]Dodge | ah SecureUnitButtonTemplate is ok :) |
| 13:27.18 | Ellipsis | bah, who broke fisheye |
| 13:27.25 | [Ammo] | the shark |
| 13:27.36 | Ellipsis | but now how will I stalk my favorite devs? |
| 13:27.37 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:29.32 | [Ammo] | you don;t :) |
| 13:29.37 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:31.16 | Josh_Borke | thank goodness |
| 13:32.04 | Ellipsis | suddenly my life has become so meaningless... |
| 13:32.16 | Josh_Borke | do you really want your life to revolve around others? |
| 13:32.29 | Ellipsis | ...as opposed to what? |
| 13:32.46 | Josh_Borke | as opposed to wow obviously |
| 13:33.04 | Ellipsis | WoW is others! |
| 13:34.07 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: You obviously could become autistic |
| 13:34.21 | Ellipsis | of course! |
| 13:34.33 | Ellipsis | that's brilliant, why did I never think of it |
| 13:35.31 | Wobin | bah |
| 13:35.40 | Wobin | I have to set up my laptop for my torrenting again |
| 13:35.48 | Wobin | I keep running out of peak quota |
| 13:35.57 | Wobin | and I can't sleep with the main computer on |
| 13:36.24 | Ellipsis | well there's an easy solution to that |
| 13:36.29 | Ellipsis | quit sleeping :) |
| 13:36.33 | Josh_Borke | or stop stealing |
| 13:36.40 | Wobin | That reflects badly when it comes to work |
| 13:36.43 | Josh_Borke | >=) |
| 13:36.49 | Wobin | Stealing? |
| 13:36.55 | Wobin | I download Linux isos |
| 13:36.58 | Wobin | <.< |
| 13:36.58 | Wobin | >.> |
| 13:37.01 | Wobin | over and over |
| 13:37.02 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 13:37.04 | Ellipsis | yes, of course, we all do |
| 13:37.13 | Ellipsis | what else would you use torrents for? |
| 13:37.17 | Wobin | That's right! |
| 13:37.27 | Josh_Borke | pr0n |
| 13:37.30 | Josh_Borke | lots and lots of pr0n |
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| 13:46.40 | RaydenUni | Ellipsis> what else would you use torrentsinternet for? <Josh_Borke> pr0n |
| 13:46.41 | RaydenUni | fixed |
| 13:46.45 | RaydenUni | or not... |
| 13:46.49 | RaydenUni | that was terrible |
| 13:47.35 | Obelix | I use it to send signals to aliens |
| 13:47.47 | Obelix | They're the ones who invented torrents |
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| 13:49.23 | CIA-4 | 03chexsum * r54392 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 13:49.23 | CIA-4 | KillingSpree: |
| 13:49.23 | CIA-4 | - Fixed embeds |
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| 14:14.44 | CIA-4 | 03chexsum * r54393 10KillingSpree/KillingSpree.lua: |
| 14:14.44 | CIA-4 | KillingSpree: |
| 14:14.44 | CIA-4 | - Typo fix |
| 14:15.10 | KivinSan | Is there a guide someplace to implementing SharedMedia into your addon |
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| 14:18.40 | Nefarion | the api page? |
| 14:20.57 | KivinSan | api page doesn't really explain anything |
| 14:24.15 | Pkekyo | g'morning all |
| 14:25.52 | Nefarion | local media = AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0"); --[[in your onload/oninitialize func]]: media:Register( type , name , path ) -- type: ["statusbar" | "background" | "font" | "sound" | "border"] |
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| 14:26.52 | Nefarion | it doesn't seem to properly register the input unless done on load so register in oninitialize or in the main chunk, not in onenable or an event |
| 14:27.23 | KivinSan | You've lost me... what are we registering? what's the "input"? |
| 14:27.32 | Nefarion | your media |
| 14:27.35 | Nefarion | oh implementing |
| 14:27.42 | Nefarion | well that's how you register it lol |
| 14:27.51 | KivinSan | All I want to do is fetch a list of edge and bg files that sharedmedia is aware of |
| 14:28.08 | KivinSan | I'm not adding additional files |
| 14:28.42 | Nefarion | :HashTable(type) |
| 14:28.55 | KivinSan | assumedly SharedMedia:List('border') and :List('background') |
| 14:29.30 | Nefarion | returns: table - hash table for the given type (you can iterate over this to see the currently registered media of this type i'm guessing) |
| 14:29.31 | KivinSan | guess i need to /echo some stuff onto the console and see what the return values are |
| 14:30.10 | Nefarion | it all looks well-documented to me anyways: http://wowace.com/wiki/SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 14:30.54 | KivinSan | Exactly what I'm reading, and it looks like it was written by something that (a) has no idea how to write useful docs and (b) has complete knowledge of how it works |
| 14:31.19 | KivinSan | "gets a hash table to iterate over" isn't very useful |
| 14:32.11 | nevcairiel | the hash table is pointless anyway imho |
| 14:32.15 | nevcairiel | use List and be happy |
| 14:32.50 | KivinSan | What's the bare minimum ace libraries i need to include in order to use "AceLibrary([[SharedMedia-1.0]])" |
| 14:33.08 | KivinSan | AceAddon, AceOO, AceLibrary? |
| 14:33.12 | vhaarr | Xinhuan, Grum: ping |
| 14:33.18 | nevcairiel | depends what SM depends on |
| 14:33.20 | Grum | POOOOOOONG |
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| 14:33.26 | nevcairiel | but AceLibrary AceOO should be enough |
| 14:33.30 | KivinSan | k |
| 14:33.41 | vhaarr | Grum: have you seen a bug where the _Routes lines move with you instead of being fixed on the map? |
| 14:33.50 | nevcairiel | oh, SM needs AceEvent-2.0 too |
| 14:33.55 | KivinSan | oki |
| 14:34.46 | KivinSan | oh, duh... i have a non-embedded sharedmedia right here in my addons |
| 14:34.51 | Grum | vhaarr: what i previously found is that: that doesnt happen, it seems like it does because of a bug in Cartographer concerning rotating minimap |
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| 14:36.00 | vhaarr | Grum: hm okay |
| 14:36.02 | Grum | and because the points (nodes/etc) stand still (or rotate wrong) on the minimap it seems like _Routes does stuff wrong :P |
| 14:36.07 | vhaarr | Grum: so if I turn off rotating minimap it should work |
| 14:36.10 | Grum | where it actually Cartographer :P |
| 14:36.35 | Grum | well look at the position of the nodes in Carto, turn on rotating and you see the nodes move ok, turn it off and they are 'wonky' |
| 14:36.55 | Grum | if you then turn it on again in the exact position/rotation you were in when you turned it off it works again |
| 14:37.16 | Grum | but not always :D |
| 14:37.44 | Grum | because the code used to 'trap' the rotation-setting in Cartographer is broken in my (and other peoples - that i've asked) wow |
| 14:38.08 | Grum | but try i if it 'looks ok' when you turn of the drawing of nodes on the map |
| 14:38.10 | Grum | it should :) |
| 14:38.15 | Grum | or at least it did when i last tested it ;) |
| 14:38.27 | nevcairiel | can you ever manage to get into the same exact position and rotation twice? |
| 14:38.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:38.34 | Grum | no :) |
| 14:38.40 | Grum | so its broken :) (well Carto is ;)) |
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| 14:40.17 | Grum | but vhaarr, if you find that it for some reason still is broken i could be convinced to look into it again |
| 14:40.21 | Grum | if you can reproduce the problem :) |
| 14:41.37 | vhaarr | Grum: goodie |
| 14:42.00 | Josh_Borke | Grum: how's Carto_Routes coming? |
| 14:42.06 | Grum | i spend too much time on it to believe its broken, turning of the nodes and watching where the lines are relative to the minimap picture showed that _Routes was doing the right thing |
| 14:42.16 | Grum | Josh_Borke: well it's finished - working on some random addon stuff for it |
| 14:42.26 | Grum | more settings and a fubar plugin that users requested |
| 14:42.28 | Grum | but i lack time ;) |
| 14:42.33 | Josh_Borke | so you decided against it working with both carto_ace and rock version? |
| 14:42.56 | Grum | i have had no incentive from other people to get an carto_ace version working tbh |
| 14:43.08 | Josh_Borke | fair enough |
| 14:43.14 | CIA-4 | 03jerry * r54394 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add a missing frFR pattern |
| 14:43.34 | Grum | i have no intrest but willing to help/work out splitting the code so it can be use from another place (or whatever is needed to get this working) |
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| 14:43.53 | Grum | anything to not have a duplicate codebase so to say :) |
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| 14:46.22 | Grum | anyone selling time? :D |
| 14:48.12 | Wobin | Sure. Gimme a second, and I'll have some for you, right away =P |
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| 14:49.47 | CIA-4 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r54395 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua: ag_UnitFrames: missing locales for xpbar added |
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| 15:02.19 | muhh | hi |
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| 15:02.56 | muhh | does somebody know which addons are used here? http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlc2007111215564092xz1.jpg (the slice and dice timer + animation and the energy/cp bar) |
| 15:05.04 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r54396 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Attempt to use RockComm-1.0 instead of AceComm-2.0 if available. |
| 15:06.53 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: fish down again? |
| 15:10.01 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, works fine for me |
| 15:10.27 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk |
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| 15:10.49 | Funkeh` | How does you providing me with a link change my answer? |
| 15:11.16 | Stanzilla | well I get "The requested URL could not be retrieved" |
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| 15:11.24 | Funkeh` | It loads fine for me |
| 15:11.30 | Funkeh` | But I think its a bit bhind on commits |
| 15:11.35 | Funkeh` | behind* |
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| 15:12.22 | Stanzilla | that's the complete error message: http://ace.pastey.net/77005 |
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| 15:13.59 | Pkekyo | anyone seen this grindhouse shit? |
| 15:14.33 | _dreamss | lol? |
| 15:17.04 | Toadkiller | You still on about that pkek |
| 15:17.42 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 15:17.45 | Pkekyo | just saw the ending |
| 15:18.03 | Pkekyo | fucksake |
| 15:18.03 | Pkekyo | someone must've molested quentin tarantino like hell when he was a kid |
| 15:18.24 | _dreamss | its the chick version of reservour dogs |
| 15:18.34 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 15:18.36 | _dreamss | if u dont notice that your an idiot |
| 15:18.37 | Funkeh` | hot chicks? |
| 15:19.04 | Pkekyo | chicks without legs, Funkeh` |
| 15:19.05 | _dreamss | reservour dogs = guy flick, deathproof = girl flick |
| 15:19.13 | Funkeh` | ooh |
| 15:19.28 | _dreamss | Pkekyo, the seccond movie was made by robert rodrigues |
| 15:19.30 | Pkekyo | _dreamss: that grindhouse shit is BOLLOCKS compared to reservoir dogs...absolute FUCKING BOLLOCKS |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-4 | 03rabbit * r54397 10BugSack/ (BugSack.lua Libs/ embeds.xml): BugSack: Just package AceComm-2.0 with BugSack. I guess strings should be changed to not mention it, but I'm too lazy to do it now. |
| 15:19.33 | _dreamss | planet dread? |
| 15:19.41 | Pkekyo | _dreamss: not deathproof, planet terror |
| 15:19.52 | _dreamss | planet terror wasent made by QT |
| 15:19.56 | _dreamss | he just had a minor role |
| 15:20.01 | Pkekyo | sure looks like it was made by QT |
| 15:20.10 | Pkekyo | haven't seen deathproof yet |
| 15:20.18 | [Ammo] | rodriquez did planet terror |
| 15:20.24 | [Ammo] | death proof was done by QT |
| 15:20.33 | _dreamss | deathproof failed miserly |
| 15:21.13 | Pkekyo | as did fucking planet terror |
| 15:21.13 | Pkekyo | Utter shite |
| 15:21.19 | _dreamss | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindhouse_(film) |
| 15:22.15 | _dreamss | planet terror owned face |
| 15:22.25 | _dreamss | very diferent look at zombie movies |
| 15:22.51 | muhh | (16:00:52) (muhh) does somebody know which addons are used here? http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlc2007111215564092xz1.jpg (the slice and dice timer + animation and the energy/cp bar) <- nobody ?:( |
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| 15:23.31 | Grum | muhh: you also want the middle fatass-red-outlined box? |
| 15:23.37 | Grum | that seems one of the 'hud flavors' |
| 15:25.46 | muhh | ^^ no :D only the timer + energy/cp box |
| 15:26.08 | Pkekyo | muhh: the HUD is ArcHUD |
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| 15:27.17 | muhh | ah thx, didn´t know that archud has such a timer |
| 15:27.26 | Pkekyo | it doesn't have a timer |
| 15:27.36 | Pkekyo | it does have a CP counter though |
| 15:29.30 | muhh | hmm i mean the white counter (11 22) it displays the time from a buff in sec/ms (here slice and dice) and when the buff fades the white cycle in the middle disappears |
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| 15:32.34 | Pkekyo | well the hp/energy bar and CP counter is ArcHUD |
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| 15:33.43 | muhh | kk thx |
| 15:34.01 | Pkekyo | use it myself...it's full of win and awesome :) |
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| 15:39.30 | vhaarr | Grum: it happened after I deleted a route |
| 15:39.35 | Amadeo | Anyone looking forward to the patch tomorrow? |
| 15:39.44 | vhaarr | Grum: I don't have that rotating minimap thing on, so that wasn't it |
| 15:39.52 | Grum | vhaarr: mmm |
| 15:40.06 | Grum | you deleted the route and that route kept showing on your minimap? |
| 15:40.19 | Grum | but in a static location? |
| 15:40.34 | vhaarr | I don't know which route was showing, I had multiple routes showing |
| 15:40.42 | vhaarr | but yeah could have been the one I deleted |
| 15:40.46 | vhaarr | I guess that makes sense |
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| 15:42.12 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: oh, just about everyone? |
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| 15:42.26 | Amadeo | Combat log changes in 2.3? |
| 15:42.45 | nevcairiel | no, 2.4 |
| 15:42.48 | Amadeo | damn |
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| 15:44.01 | Pkekyo | devastate change is full of win and awesome<3 |
| 15:44.14 | Amadeo | What did they do? |
| 15:44.23 | Amadeo | I really didn't keep up with this patch |
| 15:44.42 | Amadeo | I hadn't been playing too much lately |
| 15:50.02 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Zul'Amman, more Items, faster Leveling from 30-60, more flight points, craftable flying mount to begin with |
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| 15:55.12 | Lyn | <SunTsu> Amadeo: Zul'Amman, more Items, faster Leveling from 30-60, more flight points, craftable flying mount to begin with < thought from 20-60 |
| 15:55.55 | aeon|capullo | from 30-60 you get more exp per quest |
| 15:56.03 | nevcairiel | 20-60 you need less ep per level |
| 15:56.04 | aeon|capullo | from 20-60 you need less exp for each level |
| 15:56.07 | Lyn | ah, okay |
| 15:56.14 | Lyn | my bad =) |
| 15:57.36 | Amadeo | Sounds good to me |
| 15:57.41 | Amadeo | I have a 44 Paladin I want to level up |
| 15:57.44 | SunTsu | Lyn: OK, so 20-30 is faster, too, but real fast will be 30-60 ;) |
| 15:58.12 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Some Mobs got cut down as well, they are not elite anymore |
| 15:58.35 | SunTsu | so some quests should be easier |
| 15:58.43 | Amadeo | sweet |
| 15:58.52 | Amadeo | maybe I can finally level up some other classes for fun :) |
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| 16:00.27 | SunTsu | .o0( I really appreciate the new flight point in the northern camp in strangle thorn ) |
| 16:00.46 | Ordog | there is one? cool |
| 16:00.48 | Lyn | my new warriortress is 20 since yesterday.. hooray for 2.3! |
| 16:00.57 | Ordog | always hated strangle for the long runs |
| 16:01.25 | SunTsu | Ordog: There will be with 2.3 |
| 16:02.02 | nevcairiel | my warrior is 52, i hope leveling to 60 is faster now =) |
| 16:02.27 | Lyn | these 8 lvl :o |
| 16:02.48 | SunTsu | Lyn: I started my warlock last monday, hoping I will get to lvl 30 by this wednesday ;) |
| 16:02.51 | nevcairiel | old world sucks |
| 16:03.06 | Lyn | my warlock is 62.. but a gnome :( |
| 16:03.37 | nevcairiel | my lock is a gnome too, whats bad about gnomes? |
| 16:04.09 | SunTsu | I only have one gnome, my rogue, because in PvP you wohn't see a gnome, even unstealthed ;) |
| 16:04.20 | SunTsu | s/hn/n/ |
| 16:04.24 | nevcairiel | thats what the names above your heads are for |
| 16:04.29 | Lyn | nevcairiel, dunno, normally i like gnomes, but i dont like my gnome |
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| 16:04.44 | CIA-4 | 03mikk 07Beta * r54398 10Ace3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-4 | Ace3 - AceComm: |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-4 | - ACE-82: Change part indicator to single byte (\001, \002 and \003) |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-4 | - ACE-81: v19 of CTL now has an optional "queueName" parameter that allows us to assure sequence of delivery for parts. |
| 16:04.44 | CIA-4 | - Test: Test now actually does something meaningful; previous test did nothing at all since it didn't pump any OnUpdates. (Zero messages were actually delivered to the receiver) |
| 16:04.47 | Lyn | by warriortress is a gnome too, but a lovely sweet gnome, not a ugly gnome |
| 16:04.48 | CIA-4 | - Multipart message reassembler will now switch to table.concat for messages split into 3 or more parts to produce less garbage. |
| 16:04.51 | CIA-4 | - Major reshuffle & reformat to make AceComm a bit more in line with other ace libs. |
| 16:05.26 | Ordog | is somebody playing DotA in here occasionally ? |
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| 16:06.01 | colabean | anyone use nerfed ui? |
| 16:06.11 | JoshBorke | nerfed or nurfed? |
| 16:06.23 | aeon|capullo | hihi |
| 16:06.31 | Ordog | smurfed? |
| 16:06.35 | aeon|capullo | everything is nerfed |
| 16:08.34 | colabean | nurfed |
| 16:08.47 | [dRaCo] | smurfed ui... weee! |
| 16:08.53 | JoshBorke | no, i don't use nurfed, but perhaps you could ask your question anyway because maybe someone in here does |
| 16:09.20 | colabean | ITs just that i have no way to cuztomize the frames.. the frames are not showing under options section |
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| 16:09.57 | aeon|capullo | what frames? |
| 16:10.07 | colabean | like player and target etc.. |
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| 16:10.35 | aeon|capullo | nurfed is using bitbull? |
| 16:11.07 | colabean | ? |
| 16:11.22 | aeon|capullo | nurfed ui is only compilation |
| 16:11.48 | aeon|capullo | ah, i see, has own unitframes |
| 16:13.37 | Obelix | when did arena's come out? |
| 16:14.17 | Obelix | like season 1 |
| 16:14.37 | aeon|capullo | 1 patch before BC? |
| 16:14.56 | JoshBorke | i thought with 2.0 |
| 16:15.19 | JoshBorke | 2.0.1 included arena battles |
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| 16:20.15 | nevcairiel | season 1 was started somewhere in march, iirc |
| 16:21.13 | Obelix | february according to the wow site |
| 16:24.04 | vrak | colabean: the ability to modify the frames ain't there in nurfed, it's planned (AFAIK) but development is slow/dead on it, so... |
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| 16:26.03 | colabean | wow |
| 16:26.05 | colabean | crazy. |
| 16:26.35 | colabean | pitbull is cool. but i wish there was a site with more than just like 10 custom layouts u can import |
| 16:31.23 | colabean | gunna try out that ag_unitframes |
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| 16:34.41 | Industrial | good for you:P? |
| 16:35.00 | Lyn | :o |
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| 16:36.00 | colabean | lol ok ag is sweet. :O better than other ones if tired and its been 30 seconds |
| 16:36.34 | Lyn | anyone knows why teknicolor (dongle version from tekkub's google) and maneki (from haste's google) not throwin' errors when activated both? :< |
| 16:36.48 | samwise | Anyone of you playing around with extracting mpq-archives? |
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| 16:48.36 | haste | Lyn: I'll probably use my Axe on maneki later today, so it will be fixed then |
| 16:49.04 | Ellipsis | is it a magical axe? |
| 16:49.31 | haste | yes, it makes code run away in fear |
| 16:49.40 | Ellipsis | ooh...where can I get me one of those |
| 16:50.23 | haste | in gensokyo |
| 16:50.25 | Lyn | haste, do you want to see the error? (think it's a dongle-one..) but anyway, thanks <3 |
| 16:50.47 | haste | Lyn: won't be needed :) |
| 16:50.54 | Lyn | :) |
| 16:51.02 | haste | I believe I already know the error, and afaik it doesn't harm any of the add-ons |
| 16:51.31 | Lyn | yeah, it doesn't, but it's a ... "cosmetic" error, or so.. *g |
| 16:51.45 | sedai| | heh, you guys ready for tomorrow? |
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| 16:52.17 | Ellipsis | is anyone ever really ready? |
| 16:52.35 | sedai| | no |
| 16:52.58 | sedai| | was more of a bait for someoen to express specific thoughts |
| 16:53.35 | Fisker- | anyone remember the port the realmlist runs on? |
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| 16:55.25 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
| 16:55.28 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 6h 2m 41s ago, saying: 'cryogen, rawr'. |
| 16:55.42 | Gnarfoz | that's a long time, for him |
| 16:56.20 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock#I.27m_scared_Ckknight_is_going_to_get_hit_by_a_bus_and_no_one_will_be_able_to_maintain_Rock |
| 16:56.21 | nevcairiel | read there |
| 16:56.22 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:56.25 | Stanzilla | maybe his pc is still broken |
| 16:57.02 | Gnarfoz | heh nevcairiel, I was thinking of that ^^ |
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| 16:57.31 | Ellipsis | he's been active more recently than that |
| 16:57.46 | Ellipsis | guess the bot didn't see him though |
| 16:57.47 | _rane | when and how does Tattle gather the armory data? |
| 16:58.54 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: maybe because of the "_" |
| 16:59.14 | Chompers | i heard monkeys killed ckknight, is this true? |
| 16:59.28 | Chompers | or pandas, i wasn't listening too hard |
| 17:02.48 | dJe781 | (nevcairiel) http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock#I.27m_scared_Ckknight_is_going_to_get_hit_by_a_bus_and_no_one_will_be_able_to_maintain_Rock <= never saw such a funny URL :') |
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| 17:06.36 | CIA-4 | 03mikk 07Beta * r54399 10Ace3/tests/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua: |
| 17:06.36 | CIA-4 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 17:06.36 | CIA-4 | - AceConfigCmd test up-to-date with spec again ("slash" uiType replaced with "cmd") |
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| 17:15.58 | CIA-4 | 03mikk 07Beta * r54400 10Ace3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:15.58 | CIA-4 | Ace3 - ACE-80: |
| 17:15.58 | CIA-4 | - CallbackHandler's OnUsed/OnUnused callbacks are now always done on registry.OnUsed / registry.OnUnused (if they exist). This solves the upgrade path problem of function references given in :New() not being replaceable. |
| 17:17.01 | Silowyi | Ok... |
| 17:17.18 | Silowyi | anyone here use the Curse Client for upgrading addons not found on wau? |
| 17:17.50 | cralor_ | i haven't spent the time finding the ones not Ace2 and seeing if there on Cure =p |
| 17:18.01 | cralor_ | Curse* |
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| 17:20.33 | Silowyi | The Curse client is really starting to annoy me. For one thing there's no way to search for updates to your packages, it only notifies you if there is an update via popup window, and if you don't notice the popup, your boned. |
| 17:21.00 | Silowyi | And for another thing, I play WoW on two separate computers, and there appears to be no way to save the package list between computers. |
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| 17:23.37 | cralor_ | Yea, I totally agree. |
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| 17:24.35 | cralor_ | That's why I can't go ahead and find the things not Ace2 that are on Curse. There is no option to search for the addons availbable on Curse. Only when it find them the first time. |
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| 17:37.42 | CIA-4 | 03mikk 07Beta * r54402 10Ace3/MikkTimer/: |
| 17:37.42 | CIA-4 | Ace3: |
| 17:37.42 | CIA-4 | - Delete MikkTimer. It lives on in the old alpha tag. |
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| 17:46.57 | _rane | is there an addon that allows easy access to different emotes? |
| 17:47.47 | _rane | i.e. some button that on click would pop up list of emotes |
| 17:47.57 | grzesieq | yes there is |
| 17:48.05 | grzesieq | tho I don't remember the name ;) |
| 17:49.02 | grzesieq | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5022-Fubar-EmoteFu.html here you go |
| 17:51.49 | Fisker- | _rane tattle mines the data from the armory when the miner is run |
| 17:51.54 | Fisker- | which is daily i believe |
| 17:52.07 | Industrial | Hmm. How does someone make money with a blog? |
| 17:52.13 | Industrial | e.g. stronglifts.com |
| 17:52.28 | Fisker- | ads i guess |
| 17:52.33 | Industrial | he quit his job and started a blog |
| 17:52.36 | Fisker- | or betting paid for your opinions |
| 17:52.42 | Fisker- | betting = getting |
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| 17:54.49 | Chompers | Fisker- sucks |
| 17:54.52 | Chompers | i want £10 |
| 17:55.08 | Fisker- | you suck |
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| 17:57.56 | _rane | Fisker-: so where's the miner? it's so badly documented |
| 17:58.03 | _rane | no wiki page, or readme |
| 17:58.42 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
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| 18:03.31 | Fisker- | _rane it's included with the addon |
| 18:03.36 | Fisker- | dataminer.lua i believe |
| 18:06.57 | CIA-4 | 03jerry 072.3 * r54403 10Talented/Talented/inspectui.lua: Talented: (2.3 branch) Unpack the inspected template before updating it. |
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| 18:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-11/uoh-slf111207.php -.-* |
| 18:17.28 | NeoTron | Azgalor down, Archimonde to 54%. |
| 18:17.51 | NeoTron | such a funny fight. sometimes you wipe at 90%, sometime at 54 for seemingly no reason |
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| 18:24.01 | Synneth | does anyone know if its possible to stop a macro executing based upon a /script check. for example: i want to cast spell1 (no gcd trigger) followed by spell2, but only if spell1 is off cd and thus available. i know i cant use an if and then a CastBySpellName, but im wondering if i can do the if check then a stopmacro if it fails. any ideas? or perhaps another way to approach the problem |
| 18:25.27 | NivFreak | Synneth: no |
| 18:25.37 | NivFreak | they don't want you to do that :) |
| 18:25.51 | Synneth | i feared as much, ok thanks NivFreak |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54404 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-4 | -Small adjustment to mana gem usage macrotext. |
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| 18:32.09 | buu | Hey |
| 18:32.20 | buu | With 2.3 changes, can your macros read the enemy buff list? |
| 18:32.39 | buu | Scratch that. I meant addons. |
| 18:33.39 | Tuller | they should be able to |
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| 18:43.05 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: is there a way to disable omen's snapping to the screen edges? |
| 18:43.23 | Gnarfoz | or rather, the not being able to put it further than 5px or so away from the edges |
| 18:48.29 | Ozguli | never noticed omen snapping anywhere |
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| 18:51.16 | CIA-4 | 03trasher * r54405 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu.toc: |
| 18:51.16 | CIA-4 | PoisonMenu: |
| 18:51.16 | CIA-4 | - Update Toc 20300 |
| 18:51.33 | Ozguli | Poison? |
| 18:51.45 | Ozguli | and TRAP BARS |
| 18:51.52 | Ozguli | Stuff that makes me angry |
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| 18:52.20 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: 2.3 will let authors specify the inset so that SetClampToScreen(true) can get closer |
| 18:52.23 | Ozguli | too many retards roll such classes |
| 18:52.32 | Ozguli | and that gives us bad name |
| 18:52.45 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: oh. neat/retarded. but thanks :) |
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| 18:54.38 | Fisker- | hey Ozguli you just activated my trap card |
| 18:55.39 | Ozguli | You just activated my madness card! |
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| 19:02.59 | mort | god, i hate pugs |
| 19:03.11 | cncfanatics | mort, then don't join em ? :) |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-4 | 03zhinjio * r54406 10/branches/SKG/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-4 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.26 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.50 | mort | i still need around 100 heroic badges... ;) |
| 19:03.57 | cncfanatics | mort, guild grps ftw ? |
| 19:05.08 | mort | left my guild because it split up, only the very casual players remained... |
| 19:05.29 | cncfanatics | enough to do heroics with |
| 19:05.47 | mort | _very_ casual, so no heroics ;) |
| 19:05.50 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 19:05.59 | cncfanatics | why didn't u join the non casual part of the split |
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| 19:06.13 | mort | tried to pug zh heroic, the rogue did around 300dps.... |
| 19:06.43 | mort | because almost everyone is in a different guild now |
| 19:06.47 | Gnarfoz | I do that with one hand, auto-attack only :< |
| 19:06.48 | cncfanatics | I do more with my 62 rogue :p |
| 19:06.59 | mort | the paladin tank did more damage |
| 19:07.10 | Ozguli | lol 300 dps |
| 19:07.28 | Ozguli | I do more in shadow labs when getting feared or CCd all the time |
| 19:07.43 | mort | i can do more damage and i'm a restodruid ;) |
| 19:07.55 | Ozguli | my lvl 42 priest actually must have about 200 dps |
| 19:08.01 | Ozguli | 44* |
| 19:10.49 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/UI_mostrecent.jpg |
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| 19:12.45 | Ozguli | comments please! |
| 19:12.54 | Ellipsis | uh...it looks like a UI to me |
| 19:12.56 | mort | i prefer a more minimalistic ui |
| 19:13.17 | Ozguli | tried those, but I actually need all the information |
| 19:13.21 | Ellipsis | fubars could use some cleanup tbh |
| 19:13.26 | mort | http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5310/wowscrnshot111207011450vf3.jpg mine |
| 19:13.38 | Ellipsis | you could put all the plugins on one bar, drop the configuration ones (or at least hide their texts) |
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| 19:14.59 | Ozguli | hmm maybe |
| 19:15.02 | Ozguli | but if I need something |
| 19:15.05 | Ozguli | I need it really fast |
| 19:15.19 | Ozguli | like "omg I'm in arena forgot to set show party in raid on" |
| 19:15.33 | Ellipsis | well you don't need a big long string of text to do that |
| 19:15.36 | Ellipsis | just an icon you can click |
| 19:15.44 | Josh_Borke | imageshack fails |
| 19:15.57 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 19:16.04 | CIA-4 | 03cncfanatics * r54407 10FlexBar2_Zoomed/ (FlexBar2_Zoomed.toc Zoomed.lua): FlexBar2_Zoomed: Fix depencies |
| 19:16.05 | Josh_Borke | yarly |
| 19:18.11 | Obelix | how would you query the server for an item link? |
| 19:19.05 | Obelix | i was trying to figure it out via atlasloot code but i was unsuccessful, I read that you have to set a tooltip item link first, and then query the tooltip (which is kind of like faking out the server) |
| 19:19.19 | Ozguli | gaaa |
| 19:19.38 | Ozguli | I meant that there's a slight change the small icon can be missed |
| 19:19.49 | Ozguli | haven't practised aiming for long time |
| 19:20.01 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 19:20.08 | Ellipsis | even with all the stuff you have, you can fit it on one bar easily |
| 19:20.43 | Ozguli | maybe |
| 19:20.47 | Ozguli | never tried |
| 19:20.55 | Ozguli | or binds |
| 19:21.04 | Ozguli | but I don't feel like getting any more |
| 19:21.25 | Ellipsis | *shrug* you asked for comments, I'm just trying to be helpful :P |
| 19:21.41 | Ozguli | yeah |
| 19:21.44 | Ozguli | you indeed were |
| 19:21.58 | Ellipsis | the bar textures are a bit mixed-and-matched, as well |
| 19:22.02 | qwesto | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.20 | Ellipsis | you have banto on UFs/Omen, but then Violation and EBB use different ones |
| 19:22.29 | Ellipsis | and that timer thing in the middle bottom |
| 19:22.31 | Ellipsis | whatever it is |
| 19:22.36 | evl | what's current PTR version |
| 19:22.47 | evl | I'm at patch one million now, would be nice with some sort of indicator :P |
| 19:28.49 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54409 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 19:28.49 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 19:28.49 | CIA-4 | -Removed detect magic (yay patch 2.3!) |
| 19:28.49 | CIA-4 | -Added support for Ritual of Refreshment |
| 19:28.49 | CIA-4 | -Removed unused commented out XML code |
| 19:28.50 | CIA-4 | -Attempted to fix mana gem spam (don't think it worked) |
| 19:29.02 | Josh_Borke | evl: "close" |
| 19:29.17 | evl | meh |
| 19:29.22 | evl | I can't log in with my regular user/pass |
| 19:29.55 | Josh_Borke | are you sure PTR is still available? |
| 19:30.03 | evl | nope |
| 19:30.22 | ulic | it was about 3 hours ago |
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| 19:31.52 | Kuja^ | it is still for me |
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| 19:46.04 | Zhinjio | ok, I have a dilemma. |
| 19:46.24 | Zhinjio | I was having some issues with my addon for when I could process certain functions based on where I was in the loading process. |
| 19:46.43 | Zhinjio | eventually (and this is bad), I even put some of the processing into the "OnShow" for the main frame. |
| 19:47.04 | Zhinjio | just because I was relatively guaranteed that thing would be loaded if they were clicking on the icon or typing the slash command |
| 19:47.21 | Zhinjio | however, now I have problems because some things are initialized and listening properly even though the addon is loaded. |
| 19:47.57 | Zhinjio | my question is: I need *someplace* to put stuff that will be processing that occurs only after the character is in, all data about him and his guild is available, and my addon is loaded and all saved variables known |
| 19:48.01 | Zhinjio | where is that place? |
| 19:48.21 | CIA-4 | 03kameril * r54410 10VisualThemes/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:48.21 | CIA-4 | VisualThemes: |
| 19:48.21 | CIA-4 | -Added support for Bagnon |
| 19:48.21 | CIA-4 | -Added support for SetWrangler.lua |
| 19:48.21 | CIA-4 | -Fixed a couple minor localization issues |
| 19:49.45 | Zhinjio | OnEvent "ADDON_LOADED" for my addon? |
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| 19:50.28 | kd3|still`lagged | anyone aware of mods that are going to need to be updated in order to work tomorrow? trying to get the list put together before the crunch |
| 19:50.28 | kd3|still`lagged | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221186&sid=1 |
| 19:50.45 | Zhinjio | the specific thing that *didn't* seem to be available then is the information about the character's guild. |
| 19:52.12 | Zhinjio | or better yet: is there an event I can key off to do the guild info processing? |
| 19:53.20 | ulic | I'm pretty sure Ace2 & Rock have a custome FullyInitialized event that fires after the game is fully loaded up. |
| 19:53.35 | sb | mh - no crushing blows from azgalor, right? :p |
| 19:53.37 | Zhinjio | *goes to look* |
| 19:53.59 | nevcairiel | sb: right |
| 19:54.24 | sb | okay thank you |
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| 19:56.20 | Zhinjio | ah, you're right. so I think I just need to add a listener for that event and then do that processing there. |
| 19:56.23 | Zhinjio | Thank you. |
| 19:57.27 | Cartas | ~seen Xuerian |
| 19:57.30 | purl | xuerian is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 16h 55m 58s) #wowace (1d 16h 55m 58s). Has said a total of 160 messages. Is idling for 1h 40m 35s, last said: 'Anyhow, afkness. Do have fun.'. |
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| 20:03.59 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 20:05.45 | Moki | why would people do a "local addon = AddonName" or a "local AddonName = AddonName" within the first lines of an addon? |
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| 20:07.32 | MentalPower | Moki: cause a local is faster to access than a global |
| 20:07.50 | MentalPower | same reason you would do "local pairs = pairs" or something similar |
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| 20:09.39 | CIA-4 | 03hegarol * r54411 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.de.lua: |
| 20:09.39 | CIA-4 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:09.39 | CIA-4 | - Bugfix for german version |
| 20:13.39 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r54412 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: |
| 20:13.39 | CIA-4 | Threat-1.0: |
| 20:13.39 | CIA-4 | - Updated the TOC for 2.3 |
| 20:14.56 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r54413 10WhisperBid/ (WhisperBid.lua WhisperBid.toc): WhisperBid: Update the TOC for 2.3. Fix a problem with tying proxy bids. |
| 20:15.15 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r54414 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Update the TOC for 2.3 |
| 20:15.48 | Ominous | is 2.3 tomorrow with all these 2.3 toc updates? |
| 20:16.01 | MentalPower | yes |
| 20:16.02 | xyu` | yes |
| 20:16.11 | CIA-4 | 03antiarc * r54415 10Hemlock/Hemlock.toc: Hemlock: Update the TOC for 2.3 |
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| 20:17.43 | Chompers | 6% wipe on leo :/ |
| 20:17.45 | Chompers | grr |
| 20:17.56 | xyu` | yeah that's annoying |
| 20:18.07 | xyu` | not as bad as a'lar imo |
| 20:18.10 | xyu` | long boring fight |
| 20:18.37 | durcyn | Chompers: let me guess, ranged couldn't keep it in their pants |
| 20:18.53 | Chompers | enrage timer |
| 20:18.56 | Chompers | everyone was alive |
| 20:19.02 | xyu` | i like it when all the priests can't kill their demons :P |
| 20:19.09 | Chompers | well, except the warlock who didn't kill his inner demon |
| 20:19.21 | Chompers | yeah, he won't live that down for a long time |
| 20:19.34 | Antiarc | Well, healers should never have problems killing demons after tomorrow |
| 20:19.46 | Chompers | very true |
| 20:19.49 | Chompers | and hai Antiarc |
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| 20:20.11 | Antiarc | Herro |
| 20:20.37 | kd3|still`lagged | yes https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766101883&sid=1 |
| 20:20.46 | Chompers | the phase changes were amazing with a pally tank |
| 20:20.49 | Chompers | super smooth |
| 20:22.09 | Chompers | hoping for a look at vashj tomorrow |
| 20:22.13 | Chompers | that'll be fun |
| 20:23.18 | Zhinjio | ulic: thank you. That worked. |
| 20:25.34 | Amadeo | Antiarc: Why all the demon hate? Can't we all just get along!? |
| 20:25.50 | Antiarc | Because they're meeeean! |
| 20:26.06 | Amadeo | They're just misunderstood! |
| 20:26.29 | ulic | Zhinjio: cool |
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| 20:28.08 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: is there a reason why you use Parser-3.0 instead of 4.0 in Omen? |
| 20:28.26 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: Because when I wrote Threat, Parser-4.0 didn't exist, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
| 20:28.34 | Stanzilla | aww k :) |
| 20:28.40 | Antiarc | I'll be rewriting all the parser usage code for 2.4 anyhow with the combat log revamp. |
| 20:28.49 | xyu` | three cheers! |
| 20:28.58 | Stanzilla | and use LibStub for Threat? |
| 20:29.36 | Antiarc | Possibly. We'll see :) |
| 20:29.47 | Stanzilla | cool! ^^ |
| 20:31.43 | Amadeo | Ohhh no, they say he's got to go...go go Stanzilla, yeahhh |
| 20:32.49 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 20:32.51 | Stanzilla | *hides* |
| 20:35.31 | Ozguli | hmhm. I took a good look at my action bars and there's like no way I could get rid of even one of them |
| 20:35.45 | Chompers | balls |
| 20:35.57 | Chompers | lock tank dies at 21% and we all die |
| 20:35.57 | Ozguli | but cleared my fubar to have only the lower bar |
| 20:36.01 | Chompers | **rage** |
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| 20:36.28 | Ozguli | and removed some minimap buttons, dissed my closetgnome and got back to Outfitter |
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| 20:41.31 | Zhinjio | is there a lua "sleep" function? I need a two second delay in code execution. |
| 20:41.38 | Zhinjio | or do I need to use a LibTimer type thing |
| 20:41.51 | Antiarc | You need a timer of some sort |
| 20:42.02 | MentalPower | Zhinjio: there is no sleep() function |
| 20:42.05 | MentalPower | you need a timer |
| 20:42.05 | vrak | is the author of the bulkmail here? |
| 20:42.11 | Antiarc | The WoW UI is single-threaded, so a "sleep" command would effectively freeze the UI for 2 sec. |
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| 20:45.49 | Ozguli | I want proper multithread game! |
| 20:46.05 | Ozguli | and effective use of dual core |
| 20:46.05 | Shirik | it IS a multithreaded game |
| 20:46.15 | Ozguli | er, came out wrong |
| 20:46.24 | Shirik | it's just not a multithreaded Lua environment, quite simply because Lua is designed not to be multi-threaded |
| 20:46.29 | Zhinjio | MP: ok. thanks. thats kinda stinky, but so it goes. |
| 20:46.42 | Antiarc | Lordy, I would not want to have to write multithreaded UI code. |
| 20:46.51 | Shirik | you want to complain about that, then go to the Lua mailing list and whine about it, but I'll warn you it's been brought up before and you won't get anywhere |
| 20:46.53 | MentalPower | neither would I |
| 20:46.59 | Shirik | all the race conditions in the UI |
| 20:47.01 | Shirik | that would be fun |
| 20:47.09 | Shirik | especially with global arg1! |
| 20:47.11 | Antiarc | Mutexes can die in a fire, is all I'm sayin' |
| 20:51.10 | RaydenUni | so large prismatic shards are going on the AH for 19g buyout |
| 20:51.24 | Shirik | that's about right |
| 20:51.28 | RaydenUni | i saw one for 3g and bid, immediately outbid. so i bid a few times each time was outbid, then i bid 20g and got outbid |
| 20:52.00 | Zhinjio | people are dumb, mmkay. |
| 20:52.05 | RaydenUni | that made me happy |
| 20:52.14 | RaydenUni | i cost some retard a gold |
| 20:52.53 | Ozguli | more than a gold |
| 20:52.59 | RaydenUni | why the heck are spellcloth so much more expensive than other cloth? |
| 20:53.08 | RaydenUni | why more? |
| 20:53.17 | Ozguli | he had to bid more than 1g, no? |
| 20:53.23 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 20:53.38 | RaydenUni | the final bid was 20g something |
| 20:53.43 | RaydenUni | so no more than 2g |
| 20:53.50 | Chompers | damnit, 3% wipe |
| 20:54.01 | Ozguli | o. anyway |
| 20:54.05 | RaydenUni | my alarm didn't go off last night so i didn't get up to run KZ |
| 20:54.13 | RaydenUni | i guess my guild got Moroes to 2% without me and then he reset |
| 20:54.26 | RaydenUni | and the healers kept running out of mana at 10% |
| 20:54.32 | Ozguli | RaydenUni your guild sucks |
| 20:54.33 | RaydenUni | yep, 1 shadow priest would have solved that |
| 20:54.38 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 20:54.40 | backbone87 | RaydenUni: 20g is cheap :) 30-40g on my server :/ |
| 20:54.44 | Ozguli | reasonable players start raiding so early you don't need alarm clocks |
| 20:54.48 | RaydenUni | large prismatic shard? |
| 20:54.54 | RaydenUni | Ozguli they are in PST and i'm EST |
| 20:54.55 | backbone87 | yepp |
| 20:55.00 | RaydenUni | so it's 1am my time |
| 20:55.04 | Ozguli | hmm, well that explains |
| 20:55.06 | RaydenUni | and i have 8am class the next day so i take a nap before |
| 20:55.08 | RaydenUni | or else i can't go |
| 20:55.21 | Diao | 10pm raids? |
| 20:55.27 | Diao | that's quite late |
| 20:55.41 | RaydenUni | a couple of them have events until 10pm apparently |
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| 20:55.51 | RaydenUni | so we only have about 3 hours |
| 20:55.58 | RaydenUni | you should complain to my guild, cause i already have |
| 20:56.02 | Ozguli | and spellcloth is more expensive because your realm doesn't have spellcloth tailors, or people hate getting the mats for it |
| 20:56.04 | backbone87 | after midnight raids ftw :) from 1 to 5 am ^^ |
| 20:56.24 | RaydenUni | backbone87 wowhead says 18g is avg for large prismatic shard |
| 20:56.39 | RaydenUni | shadow and moon are both 10-20g cheaper :( |
| 20:56.51 | [Ammo] | LPS is 30-40g here |
| 20:56.56 | backbone87 | yes |
| 20:57.21 | kadrahil | vithos: poke |
| 20:57.34 | kadrahil | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/s3change/waraxe.jpg |
| 20:57.39 | kadrahil | :O |
| 20:57.41 | kadrahil | O_O |
| 20:57.44 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.46 | backbone87 | i have seen nothing, which is cheaper on my server, than on others... until now |
| 20:57.57 | kadrahil | ^ want |
| 20:58.07 | RaydenUni | i guess it's just that primal mooncloth and shadowcloth are cheap on my server |
| 20:58.10 | RaydenUni | spellcloth is about avg |
| 20:58.12 | Pkekyo | err....are arena weapons class specific now? O.o |
| 20:58.16 | Diao | no |
| 20:58.18 | kadrahil | that would look hot with the 35 agi green glow |
| 20:58.26 | Diao | only hunter one |
| 20:58.29 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 20:58.36 | Pkekyo | wtf, why is there a 'hunter' axe? |
| 20:58.42 | Diao | it costs less |
| 20:58.52 | Diao | because they apparently use melee weapons only as a "stat stick" |
| 20:58.52 | Pkekyo | why? |
| 20:59.00 | kadrahil | costs less, because we don't actually use a melee weapon for anything other than stats |
| 20:59.00 | Diao | which is bs, but of course they qqed and got it |
| 20:59.04 | Pkekyo | meh, that's complete bollocks |
| 20:59.06 | kadrahil | lool |
| 20:59.08 | Ozguli | hunters also have too high melee dmg |
| 20:59.12 | Pkekyo | I want that bloody axe on my warr fucksake |
| 20:59.16 | Ozguli | hit like freaking warriors |
| 20:59.18 | kadrahil | Ozguli: i like it when i wing clip for 1k |
| 20:59.25 | Diao | yep it's bs |
| 20:59.27 | kadrahil | raptor strike crit for 2k |
| 20:59.27 | Pkekyo | Ozguli: indeed |
| 20:59.32 | Diao | they should nerf the weapon to 100 top end |
| 20:59.33 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: diaf |
| 20:59.40 | Diao | then hunters can use it as a stat stick |
| 20:59.41 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: aimed shot in the back for 4k |
| 20:59.44 | Ozguli | but, as my friend said they're boosting hunters so that warriors would have something to reroll to |
| 20:59.51 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: blow me |
| 20:59.59 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: which i did to a 70 rogue in wsg once |
| 21:00.06 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: (not blwo him, aimed shot for 4.2k) |
| 21:00.08 | Diao | why aimed shot in the back? |
| 21:00.11 | Diao | aimed shot in the face imo |
| 21:00.12 | Pkekyo | Ozguli: we allready have warlocks? |
| 21:00.15 | kadrahil | Diao: cause he was riding past me |
| 21:00.18 | kadrahil | like a nub |
| 21:00.23 | Diao | lol |
| 21:00.37 | Diao | but yea |
| 21:00.39 | Antiarc | Uhhh |
| 21:00.41 | Diao | qq enough and you get what you want :( |
| 21:00.45 | Antiarc | Hunters are not going to replace warriors any time soon |
| 21:00.45 | kadrahil | this will be the patch when i spec back to marks/surv for good, and put something into imp arcane shot ;D |
| 21:00.50 | Pkekyo | bitching and moaning on warrior forums is ENDLESS, but do we get buffed? fuck no |
| 21:00.53 | kadrahil | man, you know hunters are the most gimped pvp class |
| 21:00.55 | Amadeo | Diao: If I QQ enough to you, will you buy me a new PC? :D |
| 21:00.56 | kadrahil | and have been that way for a long time |
| 21:00.59 | Diao | warriors don't count |
| 21:01.05 | Diao | they're the one class that can qq all day and never get anything |
| 21:01.11 | Diao | :P |
| 21:01.13 | Ozguli | hunters gimped? |
| 21:01.18 | Diao | rofl hunters gimp |
| 21:01.19 | Pkekyo | Diao: and indeed we do |
| 21:01.24 | kadrahil | deadzonemuch? |
| 21:01.30 | Chompers | Pkekyo: enrage procs when sitting down |
| 21:01.32 | Pkekyo | non-existingdeadzonemuch? |
| 21:01.38 | Chompers | no more buffs required |
| 21:01.39 | Diao | explains the hunters in the top 20 arena teams eh |
| 21:01.41 | cncfanatic1 | if you play half decently you can just stay in deadzone forever |
| 21:01.41 | Pkekyo | Chompers: wtf? |
| 21:01.42 | kadrahil | deadzonegotreducedto5yards |
| 21:01.44 | kadrahil | it's still there |
| 21:01.52 | Diao | it's not a deadzone |
| 21:01.54 | Diao | if you can still attack |
| 21:01.56 | cncfanatic1 | 6 yards |
| 21:01.56 | Ozguli | you can melee |
| 21:01.56 | Keias | and at 5 yards you can melee |
| 21:01.59 | cncfanatic1 | deadzone is 6 yards |
| 21:01.59 | Diao | deadzone is where you can't attack at all |
| 21:02.02 | Keias | So it's not "Dead" |
| 21:02.04 | cncfanatic1 | so there is a 1yard deadzone |
| 21:02.12 | cncfanatic1 | now stop QQ'ing & be happy for the hunters |
| 21:02.15 | Ozguli | which doesn't really count |
| 21:02.22 | Grum | deadzone is less than 5yds according what i heard |
| 21:02.31 | RaydenUni | <Pkekyo> bitching and moaning on warrior forums is ENDLESS, but do we get buffed? fuck no <-- why would you get buffed? you are one of the most populated classes |
| 21:02.37 | Ozguli | I play a rogue, everyone says my class is fine |
| 21:02.37 | backbone87 | yeah because of the lags |
| 21:02.42 | Ozguli | but yet they don't want me to join anywhere |
| 21:02.53 | RaydenUni | i thought rogues complained about arena viability |
| 21:02.56 | backbone87 | so for real, there are "no deadzone" |
| 21:02.59 | cncfanatic1 | Ozguli: people react this way: |
| 21:03.03 | cncfanatic1 | Can I get buffed ? No ur imba |
| 21:03.04 | RaydenUni | i play a shadowpriest, no one complains about us anymore. it's nice :) |
| 21:03.07 | cncfanatic1 | can I join ? no u suck |
| 21:03.12 | Ozguli | "You can stun me so long I have 1/4 of my health left!" |
| 21:03.15 | Diao | cause spri aren't op anymore :( |
| 21:03.25 | cncfanatic1 | Ozguli, those got 5k hp :p |
| 21:03.27 | Ozguli | omg really? But I'm not mutilate specced... And they can trinket when they want |
| 21:03.30 | Ozguli | indeed |
| 21:03.42 | Diao | it's just like the people saying they get 2 shot by warriors |
| 21:03.44 | cncfanatic1 | muti wins for pvp though |
| 21:03.48 | Ozguli | loved finishing a paladin with freaking 400 CRIT backstab |
| 21:03.50 | Diao | they're the ones with no resil and no hp |
| 21:03.54 | cncfanatic1 | CB + muti = 4CP = WIN |
| 21:03.54 | backbone87 | RaydenUni: shadow is worthless, without a nicely setup for the shadow |
| 21:04.04 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath raydenuni |
| 21:04.07 | TNSe | that was funny |
| 21:04.07 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/45). 7821 HP; 8235 Mana; 126 mana regen; 19 mp5; 71 spell crit; 141 spell hit; 521 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (700); 230 shadow dmg (751); 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 834 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Mon Nov 12 12:09:26 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:04.14 | Pkekyo | <RaydenUni> why would you get buffed? you are one of the most populated classes <--- so fucking WHAT?! blar_blar_blar... |
| 21:04.15 | kadrahil | so i was in blades edge and a priest rezzed next to me with half health |
| 21:04.17 | TNSe | got feared out of the keal'thas encounter and can't get back in :D |
| 21:04.20 | kadrahil | i one shotted him with an aimed shot :D |
| 21:04.29 | Diao | anyway |
| 21:04.30 | RaydenUni | yeah we should buff warriors so more people would play them... |
| 21:04.33 | Diao | hunters are not gimped at all in pvp |
| 21:04.37 | RaydenUni | and nerf shamans so no one will play them... |
| 21:04.40 | Diao | just that 99% of hunters are total garbage |
| 21:04.43 | Ozguli | oh damn I can't breath |
| 21:04.45 | Diao | so they can't get past 1500 rating :( |
| 21:04.50 | cncfanatic1 | RaydenUni, who cares about population ? |
| 21:04.54 | Ozguli | mmm. hurts |
| 21:04.58 | backbone87 | Diao: same like mages and rogues |
| 21:05.00 | RaydenUni | what is wrong with warriors anyways? |
| 21:05.10 | Diao | plenty of mages and rogues in high ratings though :( |
| 21:05.10 | cncfanatic1 | that they're whiners, just like all other 8 classes |
| 21:05.22 | cncfanatic1 | now if all 9 classes stopped crying |
| 21:05.27 | RaydenUni | we take 3 warriors to KZ. for some reason lots of people like to roll them |
| 21:05.34 | backbone87 | Diao: yeah but 99% of the whole mage and rogue population is garbage too |
| 21:05.38 | Diao | true |
| 21:05.43 | Keias | Thats every class backbone87 |
| 21:05.46 | Diao | but they're so easy to play |
| 21:05.46 | Ozguli | which gives them bad name |
| 21:05.51 | backbone87 | Keias: no |
| 21:05.51 | Keias | Except Warlocks, cause they can faceroll the KB for wins |
| 21:05.53 | Diao | that they can get to high ratings even without |
| 21:06.00 | kadrahil | Keias: haha |
| 21:06.00 | cncfanatic1 | 99% of WoW populace is garbage, that includes all classes |
| 21:06.05 | Diao | i watched a 2400 rated rogue pvp video |
| 21:06.07 | Diao | guess what he does |
| 21:06.12 | cncfanatic1 | tell us ? |
| 21:06.14 | Diao | spam ss |
| 21:06.16 | Diao | the entire video |
| 21:06.21 | Ozguli | whooo lol |
| 21:06.21 | cncfanatic1 | doubt it |
| 21:06.23 | Ozguli | combat sword |
| 21:06.26 | Diao | combat maces |
| 21:06.27 | cncfanatic1 | the combo points have to be used for something |
| 21:06.28 | Ozguli | oh |
| 21:06.31 | cncfanatic1 | and combat is boring |
| 21:06.34 | Diao | occasional use of kick/kidney shot/blind |
| 21:06.36 | cncfanatic1 | even though I'm combat atm :p |
| 21:06.42 | Ozguli | me too, hate it |
| 21:06.43 | Diao | but 99% of the video |
| 21:06.44 | Diao | is spam SS |
| 21:06.51 | Ozguli | but want to do pve while being able to pvp too |
| 21:06.52 | cncfanatic1 | untrue |
| 21:06.52 | Keias | Combat isn't that boring |
| 21:06.52 | Ominous | mutulate FTW! |
| 21:06.56 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: there's a HUGE difference between the amount of created warriors and the amount of active warriors |
| 21:06.57 | Ozguli | mutilate pwns! |
| 21:06.58 | Keias | at least you get fun damage numbers |
| 21:06.59 | Ominous | you can do pve and pbp |
| 21:07.43 | Ominous | pvp* |
| 21:07.43 | Keias | Unlike Sub |
| 21:07.43 | cncfanatic1 | he should use a finisher at least every 5 SS, which makes 20% of non ss |
| 21:07.43 | Diao | lol |
| 21:07.43 | Diao | well yeah |
| 21:07.43 | Diao | of course i'm exaggerating |
| 21:07.43 | cncfanatic1 | less QQ |
| 21:07.43 | cncfanatic1 | :) |
| 21:07.43 | backbone87 | the single person skill difference between a 2100 and 2500+ 5on5 rating is below 1% |
| 21:07.43 | Keias | Like those damn warriors |
| 21:07.43 | Keias | that use nothing but MS and Hamstring |
| 21:08.00 | Pkekyo | could say the same thing for hunters.... "people still play hunters, so deadzone is fine, and they don't need buffing...hell, nerf them even!" |
| 21:08.15 | RaydenUni | what is the problem with warriors then? |
| 21:08.19 | RaydenUni | i wasn't aware of any issues atm |
| 21:08.27 | backbone87 | the only issue is: how much do you play? do you have the same opinion about strategy? etc. |
| 21:08.28 | Diao | warriors are fine for the most part |
| 21:08.34 | Diao | except |
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| 21:08.41 | Diao | take out the penalties for stances |
| 21:08.50 | Diao | because warriors being the only class to take extra damage in pvp is lame |
| 21:09.14 | RaydenUni | as a clothie i don't have a problem with it |
| 21:09.15 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 21:09.20 | Diao | of course not |
| 21:09.26 | Diao | attacking a warrior is free 10% extra damage |
| 21:09.26 | Diao | lol |
| 21:09.27 | Ozguli | hah I rolled a priest... |
| 21:09.30 | backbone87 | no one will NOW stop playing a class, he's playin for the last two years, even if it's one of the "better" classes |
| 21:09.37 | Ozguli | almsot as easy as a lock |
| 21:09.41 | Ozguli | except I can't chain fear |
| 21:09.46 | Diao | why do you think standard procedure in 5s |
| 21:09.49 | Diao | is to gib the warrior first |
| 21:10.03 | durcyn | because your damage output is out of control |
| 21:10.04 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: for one, getting shafted by blizz doing FUCKTARDED changes every bloody patch? and yeah, having abilities that causes 35% more damage taken is also complete bollocks |
| 21:10.05 | RaydenUni | so what happens if he starts off in def stance? |
| 21:10.08 | kadrahil | item repairs (now enabled on all merchants) |
| 21:10.11 | Diao | no |
| 21:10.16 | Diao | it's because warriors are the easiest target to kill |
| 21:10.19 | Diao | out of all classes |
| 21:10.20 | Julith | if i change the size of a frame with "SetWidth()", how can I apply the change without reloading the ui? |
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| 21:10.46 | backbone87 | Julith: it should apply directly? |
| 21:10.55 | Pkekyo | RaydenUniso what happens if he starts off in def stance? <--- might as well have a /suicide command for warriors then |
| 21:10.58 | Julith | yes |
| 21:11.09 | RaydenUni | why? wouldn't you take less dmg? |
| 21:11.25 | Diao | warriors in defensive stance have no access to any of their pvp skills |
| 21:11.44 | Diao | usually what happens is |
| 21:11.46 | Pkekyo | not to mention damage output is thrown out the window in def stance |
| 21:11.50 | RaydenUni | i would say that not dying while the other team attacks you is a pretty nice skill |
| 21:11.55 | Diao | well |
| 21:11.58 | Diao | if the warrior charges |
| 21:12.01 | Diao | and goes defensive stance |
| 21:12.03 | Diao | intsead of berserker |
| 21:12.07 | Diao | he loses access to zerk rage |
| 21:12.11 | Pkekyo | he's instanly CCed, and totally fucked |
| 21:12.15 | Diao | which means no fear/incapacitate breaks |
| 21:12.15 | Chompers | nooo |
| 21:12.20 | Diao | if he goes berserker |
| 21:12.24 | Diao | the team instagibs him |
| 21:12.25 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: every good warri, stands behind/in his team in battle stance, charges in and switch to def stance and look if he got focus |
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| 21:12.40 | Diao | nobody switches to def in the mid-charge |
| 21:12.42 | Diao | ever |
| 21:12.45 | Diao | because if you get caught by a fear |
| 21:12.48 | Diao | you're fucked |
| 21:12.54 | Ozguli | hahaheh |
| 21:12.56 | Chompers | are you supposed to go all out nuke on leo at 15%? |
| 21:13.02 | Ozguli | friend died because of that once, in AB |
| 21:13.15 | backbone87 | Diao: doesnt matter, because if you are focus -> no fear |
| 21:13.19 | Pkekyo | woopdie-fucking-doo 10% less damage taken... also 10% less damage fucking done, and unable to break stuns/fears |
| 21:13.20 | Diao | no |
| 21:13.20 | Ozguli | got feared off the cliff, which looked hilarious |
| 21:13.22 | Diao | they'll still fear you |
| 21:13.25 | Diao | lol |
| 21:13.32 | Diao | keep you from doing anything while focused |
| 21:13.37 | backbone87 | yeah and it breaks after 1ms |
| 21:13.42 | Diao | and yes Chompers |
| 21:13.43 | Diao | you are |
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| 21:13.53 | Chompers | but everyone dies |
| 21:14.06 | backbone87 | the most common setup, which focus warri is rogue + 3 caster |
| 21:14.10 | Diao | dies to what o_O |
| 21:14.16 | Chompers | the whirlwind |
| 21:14.21 | Pkekyo | 10% less damage taken does not translate into not dying, RaydenUni, it translates into dying one and a half second later |
| 21:14.25 | Chompers | healers can't keep up with healing everyone |
| 21:14.28 | backbone87 | so your berserker rage or deathwish is worth 0 |
| 21:14.29 | Diao | :\ |
| 21:14.33 | RaydenUni | but i thought its +10% vs -35% |
| 21:14.36 | RaydenUni | that's 45% |
| 21:14.38 | RaydenUni | that's a lot |
| 21:14.49 | Diao | 35%? |
| 21:14.53 | Amadeo | Geared out Warriors still rock, that won't change...just if you're not geared out, the class sucks |
| 21:15.08 | Pkekyo | zerker stance + recklessness + death wish = 35% more damage taken |
| 21:15.21 | Diao | you can't use reck in arena o_o |
| 21:15.24 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: which translates into one out of 100 warriors are fine...99 are fucked |
| 21:15.25 | Diao | and nobody burns deathwish that early |
| 21:15.30 | backbone87 | Amadeo: in arena it's the same with nearly all classes |
| 21:15.35 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: Yeah, but that will never change |
| 21:15.47 | Amadeo | backbone87: Not really, other classes rely on gear a whole lot less |
| 21:16.12 | CIA-4 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r54416 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (32 files in 18 dirs): |
| 21:16.12 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:16.12 | CIA-4 | - Update to only allow setting of actions for stances that the current character supports. |
| 21:16.12 | CIA-4 | - Fixed issue with nil references in ActionButton.lua and ActionSetConfig.lua. |
| 21:16.12 | CIA-4 | - Fixed issue with Activate/main.lua not recognizing entered unit frame name. |
| 21:16.13 | CIA-4 | - Improved action cooldown/count support for macro actions. |
| 21:16.14 | backbone87 | Amadeo: in arena? which class did not fully relies on gear? |
| 21:16.23 | Pkekyo | why does everyone assume that bloody arenas is the only fucking thing people play this game? |
| 21:16.24 | Diao | warlocks lol |
| 21:16.28 | Amadeo | That's why a Mage can be naked and kite a fully geared Warrior to death |
| 21:16.31 | backbone87 | Amadeo: wl is the only one |
| 21:16.34 | Ozguli | becaause |
| 21:16.45 | Ozguli | arena is the only place for proper pvp gear |
| 21:16.58 | CIA-4 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r698 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (ControlFreak.lua break.wav): ControlFreak - Added break sound. Noticeable, but not fucking annoying. |
| 21:16.58 | backbone87 | Amadeo: in a 1on1 situation the mage can, but not in a 5on5 match |
| 21:17.08 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: BGs are boring and repetitive, it's like playing Diablo over for the 9000th time |
| 21:17.13 | Amadeo | and World PvP doesn't exist |
| 21:17.22 | Amadeo | so Arena is all that's left, and even it's getting old |
| 21:17.26 | Ozguli | Amadeo where do you play? |
| 21:17.38 | Pkekyo | being 'half-decent' in arenas does not justify being totally fucked up the arse every time you enter combat elsewhere |
| 21:17.38 | Ozguli | Just go to STV and find all the lvl 70 players there |
| 21:17.46 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: to each his own... |
| 21:17.49 | Diao | oh warriors need a pve buff too |
| 21:17.53 | Diao | :) |
| 21:17.58 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: the game balance can fully fit only one of the game parts, and it should be arena |
| 21:18.03 | Diao | make thunderclap hit all nearby targets |
| 21:18.05 | Diao | instead of limit to 4 |
| 21:18.06 | Amadeo | backbone87: Even so, that Warrior is going to need good gear to be able to help out, if they're not geared, they can't help at all |
| 21:18.07 | Diao | and we're good |
| 21:18.23 | Chompers | make whirlwind miss sheeped targets |
| 21:18.24 | backbone87 | Amadeo: but its the same with the mage in 5on5 |
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| 21:18.41 | backbone87 | Amadeo: or holy priests |
| 21:19.07 | Amadeo | Mage can still CC and put out more damage than an undergeared Warrior |
| 21:19.16 | Pkekyo | backbone87: pvp has never and will never be balanced, and warriors has, and will for ever be completely shafted by devs |
| 21:19.41 | CIA-4 | 03zuno * r54418 10UnitActionBars/UnitGroupHeader.lua: |
| 21:19.41 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:19.41 | CIA-4 | - Fix to ensure not too many controls get allocated |
| 21:19.41 | CIA-4 | - Modifications to dump output. |
| 21:19.44 | CIA-4 | 03paene * r54419 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 21:19.44 | CIA-4 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:19.44 | CIA-4 | -Removed reference to DewdropLib that was causing errors |
| 21:19.50 | backbone87 | Amadeo: except warlock (who has so much spells and skills he can use to get rid of the focus |
| 21:20.02 | CIA-4 | 03zuno * r54420 10UnitActionBars/ (ClickActivator.lua HostileActions.lua): |
| 21:20.02 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:20.02 | CIA-4 | - Modifications to dump output. |
| 21:20.13 | Julith | nobody knows any solution? |
| 21:20.25 | Amadeo | The bottom line is, the base Warrior class gets nerfed because of high end gear, and nothing ever changes to make up for undergeared Warriors that fall further and further behind due to the top 0.5% Warrior nerfs |
| 21:20.41 | Diao | solution to what |
| 21:20.50 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: not fully balanced, but its the only the part, which makes sense, to balance |
| 21:21.25 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: PvE balancing is very easy, just give every class a unique skill, which is a haveto in raids |
| 21:21.44 | Pkekyo | backbone87: so if arenas are somewhat balanced, you think it's fine if a single rogue can hand 20 warriors their arses? |
| 21:21.49 | Julith | Julith: if i change the size of a frame with "SetWidth()", how can I apply the change without reloading the ui? |
| 21:21.51 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: like shadows... the could do half damage, if the mana brought back is equal to now |
| 21:22.03 | Diao | uhh |
| 21:22.04 | CIA-4 | 03zuno * r54421 10UnitActionBars/ (ItemAction.lua MacroAction.lua SpellAction.lua): |
| 21:22.04 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:22.04 | CIA-4 | - Fixes to deal better with Macro action display (cooldown and counts). |
| 21:22.04 | CIA-4 | - Updates to manage "current action" status for macros, spells, and items better. |
| 21:22.06 | Diao | don't think you can |
| 21:22.23 | Julith | but grid does it, or not? |
| 21:22.35 | Julith | and bartender |
| 21:22.48 | backbone87 | Julith: as i said, it should update directly |
| 21:23.17 | Julith | hmm, it doesn't update in my addon |
| 21:23.23 | backbone87 | Julith: so if it doesnt and your down all right, pastey for context |
| 21:23.27 | CIA-4 | 03zuno * r54422 10UnitActionBars/ (17 files in 17 dirs): |
| 21:23.27 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:23.27 | CIA-4 | - TOC update to 2.2 (another change coming for 2.3 tomorrow when it is released) |
| 21:23.31 | Pkekyo | backbone87: Pkekyo: PvE balancing is very easy, just give every class a unique skill, which is a haveto in raids <--- blizz removes warrior highest advantage for pve tanking tuesday/wednesday |
| 21:23.38 | backbone87 | Julith: *done |
| 21:23.59 | Julith | sorry, what means pastey? :) |
| 21:24.08 | Ozguli | I just got this idea |
| 21:24.19 | RaydenUni | pastie.caboo.se |
| 21:24.24 | Ozguli | maybe a deep sub rogue would be useful in some arena anyway? |
| 21:24.30 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: the highest advantage is of warri tanks is last stand, shieldwall and blocking |
| 21:24.35 | Ozguli | They'd get stealth detection or mad burst dmg |
| 21:24.39 | backbone87 | Julith: www.pastey.net |
| 21:25.29 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: fear abort belongs on alliance side to dwarfs.... |
| 21:25.44 | Pkekyo | backbone87: one of the biggest bonuses of bringing warriors to a raid is the ability to break fear...which will no longer be needed tomorrow/wed |
| 21:25.47 | CIA-4 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r54423 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc: |
| 21:25.47 | CIA-4 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:25.47 | CIA-4 | - TOC update to 2.2 (another change coming for 2.3 tomorrow when it is released) |
| 21:26.46 | Pkekyo | blocking? bollocks...paladins does that just as well as we do...even better at times |
| 21:26.48 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: it will be a advantage next week, too, because while feared you cant dodge, bla, bla |
| 21:27.16 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: no paladins have a much less block value |
| 21:27.39 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: i mean block for damage mitigation, not for crush avoiding |
| 21:28.04 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: btw: druids can be crushed next week, too |
| 21:28.07 | Pkekyo | backbone87: sod block value, it's worth absolutely cunt-hair. the purpose of blocking is to avoid crushing blows...block for damage mitigation? you're better off stacking dodge/parry |
| 21:28.17 | Diao | driuds have always been crushed |
| 21:28.21 | Diao | druids* |
| 21:28.26 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: depends on the boss |
| 21:28.45 | Pkekyo | howso? |
| 21:28.45 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: essence of souls phase 1 |
| 21:28.52 | Diao | and don't worry, even if paladins block for less they will have more hp next patch |
| 21:28.59 | Pkekyo | indeed |
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| 21:29.27 | Pkekyo | backbone87: soeh...that's ONE encounter where warrior block value might perform half-decent as mitigation? |
| 21:29.34 | backbone87 | Diao: dont watched for pala prot changes |
| 21:29.52 | Diao | who uses warriors to tank RoS phase 1? |
| 21:29.54 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: karazhan, prince phase 2 |
| 21:30.18 | Diao | uhh |
| 21:30.22 | Diao | pure avoidance > block on prince |
| 21:30.32 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: hyjal, azgalor doomgards tanking |
| 21:30.43 | Pkekyo | when you have enough blockvalue to have it perform on par with parry/dodge, you've outgeared the encounter by far allready, hence: your statement is invalid |
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| 21:30.59 | Pkekyo | so, that makes two encounters then? woopdie-fuckin'-doo |
| 21:32.00 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: if you have a warri, who tanks 10 mobs, with very hard work and a paladin, who tanks 10 mobs, you will choose the warri, if the aggro is no issue |
| 21:32.35 | Pkekyo | when you're supposed to tank 10 mobs, when is aggro not an issue? in SM?! |
| 21:33.00 | backbone87 | i think all three tank classes are valuable for different situations |
| 21:33.11 | Julith | I'm feeling stupid...but how can I submit the paste text? |
| 21:33.20 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: akama |
| 21:33.22 | Pkekyo | they are...though warriors are getting less valuable by the minute |
| 21:33.32 | backbone87 | Julith: yeah |
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| 21:34.02 | Julith | http://www.pastey.net/77025 |
| 21:34.13 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: and if some mob needs spellreflect (like kealthas, eos...) |
| 21:34.35 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: a warri HAVE TO tank |
| 21:34.41 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: no alternative |
| 21:34.50 | Pkekyo | how'd you figure? |
| 21:35.05 | Fin | they're changing block value, though |
| 21:35.05 | Fin | thingy said something about it in the con dev whatsit |
| 21:35.08 | Pkekyo | nevermind, saw 2nd statement out of config |
| 21:35.12 | backbone87 | if makes the fight 10 times harder, if you dont |
| 21:36.20 | Diao | wait what |
| 21:36.28 | Diao | who uses a warrior when a paladin can aoe tank more easily? |
| 21:36.56 | Pkekyo | backbone87, I guess... |
| 21:37.07 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54424 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal Waves: dont send localized strings as sync |
| 21:37.16 | backbone87 | Julith: i didnt used ace config tables until now, but i bet there is missing the frame reference on SetWidth call |
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| 21:37.52 | backbone87 | Diao: when the palydan dies, because he took more damage? |
| 21:38.08 | Diao | no pallies i've seen have any trouble with that |
| 21:38.33 | Diao | and pallies are generally likely to take less damage, not more, due to the way holy shield works -.- |
| 21:38.38 | RaydenUni | so how does instance # work? |
| 21:38.41 | Zhinjio | my thinking is druids: when you need a dmg soaker (gruul ot), paladins when you need insta-threat, and warriors when you need fear mitigation (nightbane) |
| 21:38.46 | RaydenUni | if i run KZ with my guild i can't run it with anyone else? |
| 21:38.54 | Diao | you can RaydenUni |
| 21:38.55 | Diao | however |
| 21:38.59 | backbone87 | Diao: we had a tank paladin, who quit wow... now for hyjal every id a heal pala respecc to prot, but its not the same performance, because of gear issues |
| 21:39.01 | Diao | whatever bosses you've kiled |
| 21:39.04 | Diao | will still be dead |
| 21:39.05 | Diao | killed* |
| 21:39.14 | Diao | and if you go with others to kill the remaining bosses, your guild can't kill them |
| 21:39.46 | RaydenUni | so if i run with a pug and then want to run later with my guild? |
| 21:39.58 | Diao | if you go with a pug and clear a few bosses |
| 21:40.00 | Zhinjio | paladins have a slightly easier time avoiding crushing blows, warriors have a slightly easier time with raw mitigation vs. block, and so can take slightly higher damage in |
| 21:40.01 | Diao | then bring your guild in to do it |
| 21:40.05 | Diao | you can finish off the pug's instance |
| 21:40.12 | Diao | but you won't be able to repeat the same bosses that you killed with the pug |
| 21:40.13 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 21:40.21 | RaydenUni | instances reset when? tonight? |
| 21:40.23 | Diao | but that's only with guildies who aren't saved to another instance |
| 21:40.25 | Diao | yes |
| 21:41.03 | Pkekyo | sweet, one week ETA on a torrent with 4.5k seeders |
| 21:41.09 | Diao | o_O |
| 21:41.10 | Zhinjio | I'm going to love the extra 10% stam bonus in this patch |
| 21:41.22 | backbone87 | Julith: print the width to the console in the setter method |
| 21:41.24 | Diao | funny how they said 10% stam was OP for warriors |
| 21:41.26 | Diao | so it got nerfed |
| 21:41.31 | Diao | and paladins get 16% ;p |
| 21:41.33 | backbone87 | Julith: and look if it is correct |
| 21:41.36 | Pkekyo | haha yeah |
| 21:41.50 | Diao | but eh |
| 21:41.54 | Diao | weapon expertise is the new hotness |
| 21:41.55 | Pkekyo | the paladin stamina buff is bollocks if not buffing warriors as well...loladin hp is fine |
| 21:41.59 | Diao | warrior threat will shoot through the roof |
| 21:41.59 | Zhinjio | yupper. |
| 21:42.16 | Pkekyo | time for some breakfeast...laters all |
| 21:42.19 | Zhinjio | peace. |
| 21:42.20 | Diao | cya |
| 21:42.20 | Julith | done, it gets called |
| 21:42.37 | backbone87 | Pkekyo: have fun, and remember its just a game ^^ |
| 21:43.15 | backbone87 | yeah and is the param a number? |
| 21:43.54 | Julith | yes, the "width"-param holds the changing width |
| 21:43.56 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 21:44.48 | backbone87 | hmmmmm |
| 21:44.53 | Zhinjio | if I have an existing list, lets say listName["blue"] = { 1, 2, 3 } |
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| 21:45.28 | Zhinjio | and I want to rename the index from blue to green, can I just do listName["green"] = listName["blue"]; listName["blue"] = nil? |
| 21:45.44 | Zhinjio | or do I have to copy entry for entry and then delete the old one? |
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| 21:46.15 | backbone87 | Julith: what does step and bigStep? maybe it changes for a to small amount? |
| 21:46.21 | Zhinjio | and especially if listName["blue"] is a complex table itself. |
| 21:46.56 | Julith | backbone87: no, the size of the frame changes if i reload ui |
| 21:48.06 | Zhinjio | lua> listName["blue"] = { 1, 2, 3 }; listName["green"] = listname["blue"]; print listName["green"] |
| 21:48.06 | cladbot | Zhinjio: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "listName["blue"] = { 1, 2, 3 }; listName["green"] = listname["b..."]:1: '=' expected near 'listName' |
| 21:48.51 | backbone87 | lua> list = {}; list["bla"] = { 1 , 2 , 3 }; list["blub"] = list["bla"]; list["bla"] = nil; print(list["bla"] and "not empty" or "empty") print(list["blub"] and "not empty" or "empty") for i = 1, 3 do print(list["blub"][i]) end |
| 21:48.51 | cladbot | backbone87: empty, not empty, 1, 2, 3 |
| 21:49.20 | backbone87 | Julith: really hard to figure the error |
| 21:49.42 | Julith | I recognized that :) |
| 21:50.14 | backbone87 | where is the frame anchored? |
| 21:50.29 | Zhinjio | um |
| 21:50.49 | Zhinjio | oh. heh. |
| 21:51.02 | backbone87 | Zhinjio: table's are references |
| 21:51.47 | Julith | normally: "f:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent)" but i out commented it |
| 21:52.10 | Zhinjio | ok. lemme test that out... |
| 21:52.20 | backbone87 | lua> list = {}; list2 = list; list3 = list; print(list == list2, list2 == list3) |
| 21:52.20 | cladbot | backbone87: true, true |
| 21:53.15 | backbone87 | Julith: hmm have, to say, i dont know the error :/ |
| 21:53.42 | NivFreak | hrmm |
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| 21:53.55 | NivFreak | I don't think a single person has run kara on the PTR to find out how many badges you get |
| 21:53.58 | Julith | ok, thanks for the help |
| 21:54.07 | Diao | i've heard it's ~20 |
| 21:54.12 | Diao | for full clear |
| 21:54.21 | backbone87 | 2 per boss or something like that |
| 21:54.33 | Toadkiller | Who cares about Kara, its all zul aman baby |
| 21:54.37 | Diao | 1 up to opera, 2 through chess, 3 after that |
| 21:55.30 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: We clear kara in 3 hours, if I can get 20ish badges in 3 hours, I'll be running it until I get the ~400 I need ;P |
| 21:55.45 | NivFreak | Diao: source? |
| 21:55.54 | Diao | don't remember |
| 21:56.00 | Diao | it was on mmo-champion or wor i think |
| 21:56.18 | NivFreak | I haven't seen anything other than suggestions that they would drop 1-2 each |
| 21:56.27 | NivFreak | on either |
| 21:56.30 | Zhinjio | so ... that would make illhoof and netherspite 2, and nightbane 3? |
| 21:57.25 | Toadkiller | I saw some quest guys in shattra that paid 2 badges for a repeateable |
| 21:57.59 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:58.02 | NivFreak | heroic daily quests |
| 21:58.23 | NivFreak | I figure I'll keep doing kara runs for badges until we can do 2 ZA clears a week |
| 21:58.48 | NivFreak | then again, I haven't seen any confirmation on what the ZA lockout timer will be anyway |
| 21:59.01 | Toadkiller | you know its 1 week right |
| 21:59.31 | NivFreak | it's not |
| 21:59.38 | NivFreak | they've stated it will be less than one week |
| 21:59.43 | Toadkiller | really |
| 21:59.46 | NivFreak | yes |
| 21:59.53 | NivFreak | but I haven't seen a number yet |
| 22:00.09 | Toadkiller | nice so for a 3day thats 40 badges a week |
| 22:00.24 | NivFreak | 14 badges per ZA run |
| 22:00.25 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 22:00.45 | Toadkiller | ok so 28. wonder how fast a clear can be |
| 22:01.09 | NivFreak | well, 20 mins for the first 4 bosses for the timed event, right? |
| 22:01.28 | Pkekyo | is 120 kB/s a good DL rate? |
| 22:01.34 | Diao | under 2 hours |
| 22:01.36 | Diao | for a full clear |
| 22:01.37 | Diao | easily |
| 22:01.39 | Pkekyo | I never could be arsed to learn the binary math crap :p |
| 22:01.42 | Diao | 1 hour for first 4 bosses |
| 22:01.44 | Diao | 1 hour for last 2 |
| 22:02.05 | kenlyric | 1 + 1 = 10. Binary is easy. |
| 22:02.14 | Diao | lol |
| 22:02.26 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: still doesn't tell me wether or not 120kB/s is a good DL rate |
| 22:02.57 | Diao | hm |
| 22:03.01 | Diao | 120 kbps for what |
| 22:03.02 | Diao | torrent? |
| 22:03.11 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 22:03.14 | kenlyric | it's about 1mbps |
| 22:03.14 | Diao | depends on your connection |
| 22:03.45 | Pkekyo | last time I checked it was 1.5m downstream...my ISP might have upgraded it again though, dunno |
| 22:04.48 | kenlyric | multiply download speed by 8 to be in the same units internet service is advertised at. |
| 22:05.15 | Pkekyo | usually, my downloads only dick about at like 30-40kB/s |
| 22:05.44 | Pkekyo | so 120 was a purty boost for a change :) |
| 22:06.33 | kenlyric | well, torrents are affected by the speeds of the people you connect to, the speed at which you share. |
| 22:06.45 | kenlyric | and you have to be careful not to saturate your upstream. |
| 22:07.03 | Pkekyo | saturate my upstream? |
| 22:07.29 | kenlyric | if you don't limit upload rate, torrent will take every byte it can get. |
| 22:07.36 | kenlyric | this will limit your download rate. |
| 22:07.41 | Chompers | at last |
| 22:07.51 | Pkekyo | I tend to limit upload rate at 30kB/s |
| 22:07.53 | Chompers | leo sucks |
| 22:08.02 | Diao | lol |
| 22:08.24 | Chompers | Diao: we nuked, but stopped for a few seconds between phase changes |
| 22:08.32 | kenlyric | try setting it to 20 to see if your download speeds improve. |
| 22:08.34 | Diao | grats :) |
| 22:08.38 | Chompers | worked perfect |
| 22:08.47 | Diao | or you can prioritize incoming packets |
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| 22:08.48 | Diao | over outgoing |
| 22:09.02 | Diao | if you know how ;p |
| 22:09.15 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: they dropped, actually |
| 22:10.24 | Pkekyo | Diao: how 'bout you tell me how? :) |
| 22:10.40 | Diao | well i only know how to do it on my router lol |
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| 22:11.28 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54425 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: HyjalSummit: fix wave 7 on kazrogal |
| 22:12.16 | Pkekyo | meh |
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| 22:14.06 | Pkekyo | I hate waiting for downloads to download |
| 22:14.22 | CIA-4 | 03nevcairiel * r54426 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: HyjalSummit: fix deDE |
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| 22:19.15 | sb | meehh, azgalor 11% :/ |
| 22:19.34 | Chompers | oh man |
| 22:19.45 | Chompers | proper vashj attempts tomorrow |
| 22:19.50 | Chompers | we're so going to die |
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| 22:20.37 | CIA-4 | 03archarodim * r54427 10Decursive/ (9 files): |
| 22:20.37 | CIA-4 | Decursive: |
| 22:20.37 | CIA-4 | - Moved FuBarPlugin relative options to a sub-menu |
| 22:20.44 | Diao | tomorrow? |
| 22:20.50 | Diao | instances reset today chompers o_O |
| 22:20.59 | Chompers | i'm EU |
| 22:21.02 | Diao | oh |
| 22:21.12 | Chompers | we're cutting it pretty fine |
| 22:21.43 | Funkeh` | How long does US have in hours till shutdown? |
| 22:22.16 | Diao | if there is a shutdown |
| 22:22.18 | Diao | about 12 hours |
| 22:22.21 | Diao | oh wait |
| 22:22.22 | Diao | patch application |
| 22:22.23 | Diao | yeah |
| 22:22.24 | Diao | 12 hours |
| 22:22.56 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 22:25.00 | CIA-4 | 03archarodim * r54428 10Decursive/localization.fr.lua: |
| 22:25.00 | CIA-4 | Decursive: |
| 22:25.00 | CIA-4 | - Fixed typo in frFR |
| 22:27.17 | NivFreak | " Karazhan and Zul'Aman will both give badges with the 2.3 patch, and you can get at least 10 from each of those. However, we believe that it will be possible to get almost double that amount from Karazhan" -Vaneras |
| 22:28.07 | Pkekyo | thread on the EU warrior forums: "Better get use to more and more of these post cause you gonna be the new Warlock, Enjoy" |
| 22:28.22 | NeoTron | I am bummed that they are fixing BT farming so soon after we figured it out |
| 22:29.09 | NivFreak | Pkekyo: link? |
| 22:29.16 | Pkekyo | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1610471084&sid=1 |
| 22:29.42 | Pkekyo | I find it mindboggling how someone can come to the conclusion that warriors are overpowered nowadays.... |
| 22:29.45 | Funkeh` | fixing? |
| 22:29.47 | Funkeh` | wha? |
| 22:30.53 | durcyn | Pkekyo: buh? you must not pvp much as cloth |
| 22:31.10 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, ? |
| 22:31.23 | silentium | ~seen ackis |
| 22:31.25 | purl | ackis <n=blah@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 17h 12m 54s ago, saying: 'you could probably move the fsr timer down to the bottom of the screen, and get rid of the quartz buff stuff'. |
| 22:31.50 | kadrahil | so like |
| 22:32.12 | kadrahil | there was this 5 page thread on the PTR forums about the GCD being screwed up now, and i was going to read it but it was deleted by the time i could click it :( |
| 22:32.19 | Pkekyo | durcyn: I have done my fair share...either I'm unable to reach said clothie, or I'm unable to crit the bugger |
| 22:32.44 | Pkekyo | not to mention that whilst attempting this, said clothie is unloading a 3k HIT spell in my face |
| 22:32.57 | Pkekyo | that came out the wrong way |
| 22:33.00 | Pkekyo | I need to sleep |
| 22:33.26 | Pkekyo | just turn everything I said into a clothie's prespective and you've got the answer I was trying to give |
| 22:33.54 | CIA-4 | 03julith * r54429 10GoodTarget/ (. GoodTarget.lua GoodTarget.toc): |
| 22:33.54 | CIA-4 | GoodTarget: |
| 22:33.54 | CIA-4 | - added GoodTarget frames for party targets |
| 22:33.59 | Pkekyo | wtf, rumors that Execute will be on a 30sec CD after 2.4? O.o |
| 22:34.15 | Keias | Onyxia deep breaths more |
| 22:34.17 | xyu` | 3 cheers! |
| 22:34.46 | kadrahil | Illidan now deep breathes |
| 22:34.52 | Pkekyo | Keias: bu...she does! |
| 22:34.56 | kadrahil | breaths |
| 22:35.01 | kadrahil | breathes |
| 22:35.30 | xyu` | +does a |
| 22:35.39 | NivFreak | kadrahil: they deleted the GCD thread!? |
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| 22:35.58 | kadrahil | NivFreak: apparently, and i never got a chance to read it |
| 22:36.17 | kadrahil | NivFreak: i think it was called something like "2.3 GCD, lots of unsubscribers" |
| 22:36.22 | kadrahil | and was 5+ pages |
| 22:36.31 | Pkekyo | how'd they screw up GCD? |
| 22:36.53 | NivFreak | kadrahil: oh, that was a troll thread |
| 22:36.58 | kadrahil | NivFreak: oh, ok |
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| 22:37.09 | NivFreak | here |
| 22:37.11 | NivFreak | let me find the real one |
| 22:37.16 | kadrahil | didn't they just break a lot of macro spamming? |
| 22:37.20 | NivFreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2720553494&sid=1 |
| 22:37.22 | kadrahil | and button spamming |
| 22:37.29 | NivFreak | warriors are in a bad place right now |
| 22:37.30 | NivFreak | in pvp |
| 22:37.54 | NivFreak | due to that bug |
| 22:38.17 | CIA-4 | 03kuja 072.3 * r54430 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMail2Inbox.toc BulkMailInbox-deDE.lua): BulkMail2Inbox: add AddonLoader and deDE locale |
| 22:39.12 | kadrahil | NivFreak: ouch |
| 22:40.32 | CIA-4 | 03kuja 072.3 * r54431 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail-deDE.lua BulkMail2.toc): BulkMail2: add AddonLoader and deDE locale |
| 22:41.00 | kadrahil | well |
| 22:41.00 | xyu` | too much reading |
| 22:41.03 | kadrahil | the guy still won those duels |
| 22:41.11 | xyu` | what's the clifts notes on that thread? |
| 22:41.27 | kadrahil | the "too long didn't read" |
| 22:41.30 | kadrahil | about 2/3 the way down |
| 22:41.43 | xyu` | pg 1? |
| 22:41.48 | kadrahil | no, the first post |
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| 22:42.22 | NivFreak | xyu`: cliffnotes are that your instants don't fire when you want them to in 2.3 |
| 22:42.31 | NivFreak | it went from unplayable to worse than live so far |
| 22:42.45 | NivFreak | trying to kill a rogue w/ sprint is laughable on the PTR |
| 22:42.53 | Wobwork | don't fire? |
| 22:42.55 | Wobwork | =( |
| 22:43.03 | Wobwork | why not? |
| 22:43.11 | Wobwork | oh man, jumping into a convo halfway =P |
| 22:43.13 | kadrahil | read that post |
| 22:43.20 | Wobwork | sorry, link it again? =) |
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| 22:43.26 | NivFreak | it's the new lag adjustment feature they put in for casters |
| 22:43.27 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: why do you care? you suck anyway :-P |
| 22:43.27 | NivFreak | in 2.3 |
| 22:43.31 | NivFreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2720553494&sid=1 |
| 22:43.34 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: shut it! |
| 22:44.12 | Heri1 | anyone know of a program/script I can run to make it so I get my UI back after a character name change? |
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| 22:44.57 | Heri1 | basically, something that will do a badge text replace in all my UI files and folder rename also |
| 22:45.40 | kadrahil | just find the folder named after your character in your WTF folder |
| 22:45.44 | kadrahil | and rename it to your new one? |
| 22:45.54 | NivFreak | eh, that sorta works |
| 22:46.07 | kadrahil | unless profile info for addons stored your old character name |
| 22:46.07 | NivFreak | I usually have to copy the profile from my original character once I've done that |
| 22:46.17 | Heri1 | problem is that a lot of addons (read: most ace ones) use the global saved variables space |
| 22:46.20 | NivFreak | things like bartender3 and x-perl |
| 22:46.27 | Heri1 | yeah |
| 22:46.28 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: 2-3 ppl can farm BT trash before gorefiend for epix |
| 22:46.41 | Heri1 | too bad pitbull's profile copy hasn't worked for me since rock landed |
| 22:47.35 | Wobwork | oh hurrah |
| 22:47.46 | Wobwork | yay for the non-american ping =P |
| 22:47.47 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, yes I know, how is it nerfed |
| 22:48.07 | NeoTron | grunts won't drop the BT level trash drop |
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| 22:48.46 | Wobwork | woah, they nerfed BT trash that much? |
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| 22:49.35 | NeoTron | " Shadowmoon Grunts will no longer drop Black Temple quality loot. " |
| 22:49.50 | CIA-4 | 03kuja * r54432 10AddonLoader/ (AddonLoader-deDE.lua AddonLoader.toc): AddonLoader: add deDE |
| 22:49.59 | NeoTron | I doubt they stopped to consider the lowered chance of getting HoD for guilds working on shahraz gear |
| 22:50.08 | NeoTron | i.s adjusted chances up on non-grunt trash |
| 22:50.21 | NeoTron | that's like half the mobs in the pre-supremus trash for example |
| 22:50.55 | kadrahil | http://files.filefront.com/Mistaken+Kaelthaswmv/;8974373;/fileinfo.html |
| 22:51.01 | kadrahil | what raid frames is he using? |
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| 22:51.25 | Obelix | :( |
| 22:51.32 | Obelix | i need a few trash drops from BT |
| 22:51.45 | Funkeh` | sucksage NeoTron |
| 22:52.17 | nevcairiel | good that we're through that part already |
| 22:52.24 | nevcairiel | full guild with shadow resi gear |
| 22:53.04 | Jagobah | ftp://67.19.139.94/ now has the latest patch 2.3 files |
| 22:53.20 | kadrahil | keylogger |
| 22:53.23 | durcyn | sure, i'll happily download an executable from some random ftp site, thanks |
| 22:53.32 | durcyn | i should run that as a privileged user, right? |
| 22:53.43 | Pkekyo | someone shoot Jagobah in the face please? :) |
| 22:54.03 | Jagobah | it's not even an executable; it's the partial MPQ files |
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| 22:54.38 | Pkekyo | I'm off, laters all |
| 22:54.39 | NeoTron | in fact I just sent a mail to my friend at blizzard raising this concern |
| 22:54.56 | kadrahil | nobody wanted to fast forward to the first 2 minutes of that video and help me out :( |
| 22:55.08 | xyu` | i can't even see anything |
| 22:55.14 | kadrahil | heh |
| 22:55.25 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: I need 2 more HoD dang it :P |
| 22:55.27 | kadrahil | it might be grid but that's some sick fading |
| 22:55.52 | NeoTron | but worse case, it seems. I will get the HoD for my bracers for free (have 2 + profits from sold gems / pattern covers the other 2)... |
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| 22:56.05 | xyu` | looks like pitbull to me |
| 22:56.34 | kadrahil | but that's not combatfader, is it? it looks like the frames only go solid when the health drops below 100% |
| 22:57.06 | Obelix | where's the sauce for the bt trash nerf? |
| 22:57.07 | kadrahil | bah i'll just ask him ingame tonight, it's on my server |
| 22:57.29 | xyu` | you've sparked my curiosity, if you come back on leave me a message ^^ |
| 22:57.40 | kadrahil | :D |
| 22:57.59 | kadrahil | that actually looks like xperl |
| 22:58.29 | NeoTron | Obelix: it's in the patchnotes, search for Grunt |
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| 23:04.15 | CIA-4 | 03pettigrow * r54433 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 23:32.51 | RaydenUni | woot 300 mining |
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| 23:37.44 | Keias | grats |
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| 23:42.30 | RaydenUni | wow needs a shattrath render mode |
| 23:42.34 | RaydenUni | where it doesn't render anyone else |
| 23:42.55 | Bejitt | this is odd... string.gsub isn't returning anything i can store in a variable |
| 23:43.46 | RaydenUni | aw dangit |
| 23:43.53 | RaydenUni | i teleported to org to learn more mining |
| 23:43.58 | RaydenUni | forgot it would be in outlands |
| 23:43.59 | RaydenUni | grr |
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| 23:46.07 | RaydenUni | dungeon hearth abuse ftw |
| 23:46.26 | RaydenUni | where is the mining trainer in outlands? |
| 23:46.43 | vrak | thrallmar, i think? |
| 23:47.07 | vrak | might be one in shatt too, for all i know |
| 23:49.17 | RaydenUni | there isn't one by the smelting furnace |
| 23:49.44 | Wobwork | thrallmar |
| 23:52.22 | RaydenUni | is ore often worth more than bars? |
| 23:53.03 | Bejitt | Antiarc: is there a good way to query Threat for threat values of specific spells? |
| 23:53.35 | Antiarc | Bejitt: Can you elaborate? |
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| 23:54.25 | Bejitt | Antiarc: say i want to know the base threat for a spell, like sunder armor; is there anything in place to get the values from Threat-1.0? |
| 23:54.37 | Antiarc | Sure, just look in the warrior class module |
| 23:54.50 | Antiarc | ["sunder"] = {nil, nil, nil, nil, 260, 301}, |
| 23:54.51 | Bejitt | i dont mean specifics |
| 23:54.54 | Funkeh` | I guess he means in game |
| 23:54.57 | Bejitt | i mean, say i have a spell name |
| 23:55.04 | Bejitt | i want to know the threat for that |
| 23:55.17 | Bejitt | in the end, i'm wanting to add threat information to tooltips |
| 23:55.22 | Antiarc | No, there's no way to get Threat's values for that. They're local tables, looks like. |
| 23:55.35 | Antiarc | Well, the number of moves with inherent threat are fairly limited |
| 23:55.40 | Bejitt | ./hint ./hint |
| 23:55.40 | NeoTron | Does anyone know of an addon that shows the "important" debuffs of the target |
| 23:55.48 | Antiarc | So it wouldn't be hard to just build a list and use that in your addon |
| 23:55.54 | NeoTron | including ones that are missing (which would be configurable) and total number of slots used? |
| 23:55.54 | Bejitt | yeah |
| 23:56.00 | Bejitt | but.. threat library :( |
| 23:56.00 | Gagorian | Bejitt: Well you wont know the threat of many spells before you know how much damage it does |
| 23:56.04 | RaydenUni | alright |
| 23:56.09 | RaydenUni | where is this mining trainer in thrallmar? |
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| 23:56.37 | Bejitt | Gagorian: i know, but there's a good bit of innate threat + threat modifiers |
| 23:56.41 | Antiarc | Given a certain amount of input damage, it's easy to calculate the output threat for flat damage abilities |
| 23:56.52 | Antiarc | However, abilties that just add flat threat you won't be able to get values for |
| 23:57.04 | Antiarc | That's an interesting idea, though. |
| 23:57.08 | Bejitt | :D |
| 23:57.18 | RaydenUni | oh right there in the middle |
| 23:57.30 | RaydenUni | someone shouldmake a library |
| 23:57.38 | RaydenUni | pass in the name of the spell and it returns threat |
| 23:57.54 | Bejitt | i started writing the tooltip-adding part, but i kinda knew there wasnt anything solid in place for getting the values |
| 23:58.12 | Antiarc | Well, it makes sense to use ThreatLib if you want the actual values rather than the unmodified values |
| 23:58.20 | Bejitt | exactly |
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| 23:58.23 | RaydenUni | what good is shattering primals? |
| 23:58.26 | Antiarc | ie, Sunder is 301 threat unmodified, but a lot more with the defensive stance bonus |
| 23:58.44 | RaydenUni | well you'd have to make the library state based |
| 23:58.47 | Bejitt | wasnt saying i wasnt going to consider threat mods |
| 23:58.57 | Wobwork | oh btw, Antiarc, my party was having some horrible lack of threat info from ktm last night with a pallytank |
| 23:59.09 | Wobwork | It just wasn't showing up on Omen |
| 23:59.13 | Antiarc | Wobwork: I'm almost certain it's related to master target weirdness |
| 23:59.18 | Antiarc | But I haven't had time to troubleshoot it lately |
| 23:59.29 | Wobwork | hm, in that the pallytank (using ktm) had mastertarget set? |
| 23:59.35 | Wobwork | (to something random?) |
| 23:59.38 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 23:59.46 | Wobwork | woot, I'll mention that next time, ta =) |
