| 00:01.20 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r666 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (5 files): ControlFreak - Added profile panel, all class macro sets are now loaded up and the default selected based on class. Users should reset their DB if using an old version (/script ControlFreakDB = nil; ReloadUI()) |
| 00:01.54 | Tekkub | oh, r666 PERFECT |
| 00:02.01 | Tekkub | and I can go beta now, nice |
| 00:02.12 | TecnoBrat | Tekkub, is it a devilchild? |
| 00:02.29 | Tekkub | must be, fine by me |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-7 | 03ulic * r54121 10GuildBankMover/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-7 | GuildBankMover: |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-7 | - Initial Import |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-7 | - Allows you to move ALL non-quest & non-soulbound items from Personal Banks to bags and then from bags to a Guild Bank |
| 00:03.55 | CIA-7 | - Check the Readme.txt |
| 00:03.57 | CIA-7 | - Could use some outside testing and feedback |
| 00:04.59 | |Stan| | nice idea ulic |
| 00:05.37 | ulic | credit goes to kebinusan it was his idea |
| 00:05.45 | ulic | I'll make sure that get's into the readme :) |
| 00:05.59 | buu | WobWork: How old is it? |
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| 00:09.51 | CIA-7 | 03ulic * r54122 10GuildBankMover/ (. GuildBankMover.toc Libs/ Readme.txt): |
| 00:09.51 | CIA-7 | GuildBankMover: |
| 00:09.52 | CIA-7 | - Added externals |
| 00:09.52 | CIA-7 | - Added credits |
| 00:09.53 | Obelixprime | what was the name of that editor? |
| 00:10.18 | Obelixprime | sciite? |
| 00:11.19 | Obelixprime | for Lua |
| 00:11.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Scite. There are LOTS of editors with syntax support for lua, however. |
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| 00:17.21 | Xelopheris | Is there any easy way to make a pitbull frame vertical? |
| 00:17.30 | Orionshock | Xelopheris: no |
| 00:17.33 | Xelopheris | figured |
| 00:18.06 | Xelopheris | My focus frame would've fit oh so snugly in my raid frames >< |
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| 00:20.24 | Xuerian | Is there any way to tell how long it is till your instance quota resets or goes down? |
| 00:21.16 | NightHawkAtWork | aside from writing down what time you first entered an instance and keeping track, no |
| 00:21.21 | Xuerian | blah. |
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| 00:21.46 | Tekkub | instance or raid? |
| 00:21.54 | Xuerian | Normal instances |
| 00:22.01 | Tekkub | yea what he said |
| 00:22.09 | Cryect | Its fun when you reach your cap before raiding |
| 00:22.19 | Cryect | and locked out for like 30 minutes before you can enter the raid instance :-p |
| 00:22.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Cryect: that happens even with raid instances? huh, crazy |
| 00:22.56 | Cryect | yep |
| 00:23.09 | Cryect | ran into it few times when I was too busy beforehand |
| 00:23.09 | Arrowmaster | used to be heroics werent counted as part of it but they are now |
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| 00:23.18 | Cryect | yeah they fixed that long ago |
| 00:23.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah because of the rogues |
| 00:23.32 | Cryect | heh yeah |
| 00:23.37 | Tekkub | rogues ruin everything |
| 00:23.42 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 00:23.47 | Cryect | f the rogues! |
| 00:23.52 | Cryect | just delete the class |
| 00:23.58 | Tekkub | agreed |
| 00:27.36 | Orionshock | what's the meta table trick with locale tables? the one that when you access the table if the value is true then it returns the key? |
| 00:28.25 | NivFreak | is there a good resource for getting started writing addons? |
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| 00:30.30 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54123 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: koKR update |
| 00:30.51 | NivFreak | Like common APIs, tips on a development environment etc |
| 00:31.05 | Orionshock | meh, i'll just pairs over it and do a t[k] = k |
| 00:32.59 | NivFreak | ok |
| 00:33.03 | NivFreak | I've found wowbench now |
| 00:33.04 | NivFreak | hehe |
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| 00:34.44 | WobWork | not sure how up to date wowbench is |
| 00:35.39 | Kemayo | Last I checked it wasn't up to 2.0 yet |
| 00:35.44 | Kemayo | That was months ago, though. |
| 00:38.04 | backbone87 | is it possible to use the lua io lib in wow addons? |
| 00:39.18 | Orionshock | backbone87: no |
| 00:39.39 | backbone87 | thats lame -.- |
| 00:40.09 | Orionshock | not really.. bliz has explicitly denied real time file I/O |
| 00:40.39 | backbone87 | reason? |
| 00:40.45 | Orionshock | prevent hacking |
| 00:40.50 | NivFreak | Kemayo: so any tips for a dev environment then? :P |
| 00:41.03 | NivFreak | not having to /reloadui every change would rock |
| 00:41.04 | Orionshock | NivFreak: SciTE works well |
| 00:41.11 | backbone87 | to block the input stuff, should be enough |
| 00:41.37 | NivFreak | Orionshock: that's just a general IDE though, right? |
| 00:41.52 | dashkal | SciTE is an advanced editor, not an IDE |
| 00:41.54 | ulic | if you're only running the addon your currently building reloading isn't so bad. |
| 00:42.20 | Antiarc | Arbitarary output is a security hole; arbitrary input is a botting risk. |
| 00:42.21 | backbone87 | NivFreak: if you look for an IDE: eclipse with lua plugin |
| 00:42.25 | Orionshock | it'll compile the .lua file and do a basic syntax check |
| 00:42.40 | NivFreak | well |
| 00:42.44 | NivFreak | I can just edit in vim |
| 00:42.50 | NivFreak | and use a normal lua parser then |
| 00:42.50 | dashkal | *nods* Eclipse + LUAClipse is what I'm using (and Subclipse for SVN) |
| 00:42.54 | Orionshock | and 9/10 that's usualy where alot of the errors come from. |
| 00:42.54 | Kemayo | NivFreak: I use SciTE -- it has a default keybinding to "luac -p" the current file, which is handy. |
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| 00:43.34 | NivFreak | I was just looking for more of a general quickstart on where the WoW APIs get loaded from, what's available in it etc |
| 00:43.36 | backbone87 | Antiarc: security hole? |
| 00:44.08 | Orionshock | NivFreak: i think your looking for www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 00:44.16 | Kemayo | NivFreak: I also generated my own SciTE WoW API docs from wowwiki, so I get autocompletion and the like. :D |
| 00:44.19 | backbone87 | Antiarc: you mean an addon which writes an received trojan or something, to your disk? |
| 00:44.53 | dashkal | Kemayo: nice. I don't think I have the energy to import the blizzard library into eclipse for autocompletion |
| 00:45.03 | NivFreak | Kemayo: that sounds nice ;) |
| 00:45.22 | Kemayo | dashkal: I don't either... but python is perfect for simple repetitive tasks like that. :P |
| 00:46.01 | NivFreak | Kemayo: care to share? |
| 00:46.18 | Kemayo | NivFreak: Sure: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/files/scite_wow_api.zip |
| 00:46.24 | NivFreak | thanks |
| 00:46.47 | dashkal | Ok, I may have to drop eclipse for SciTE with that beauty |
| 00:46.51 | NivFreak | and wowacepy perks my interest as well |
| 00:47.12 | Kemayo | It hasn't been regenerated in a while -- if you find something out of date, this script rebuilds it from wowwiki: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/svn/utilities/scite_apigen.py |
| 00:47.44 | Kemayo | Also, it's only as complete/correct as wowwiki. Be warned. :P |
| 00:48.01 | NivFreak | that's fair |
| 00:48.07 | NivFreak | better than what I know :) |
| 00:48.32 | Funkeh` | wewt http://www.eset.com/smartsecurity/featuresbenefits.php?s=benefits |
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| 00:53.23 | WobWork | <3 wowacepy |
| 00:55.06 | Bejitt | :O it uses wx |
| 00:55.08 | Kemayo | It posesses the standard flaw of all my projects: as soon as it reached the point where it met all my needs, I stopped bothering with it. |
| 00:55.27 | Kemayo | Bejitt: Well, the gui does. I use the command line version. :P |
| 00:55.31 | Bejitt | yar |
| 00:55.39 | Kemayo | This is related to my aforementioned flaw. |
| 00:55.43 | Bejitt | i've been using wxpython for a while |
| 00:56.02 | Bejitt | mostly wx.glcanvas @_@ |
| 00:56.43 | Orionshock | urg... |
| 00:56.51 | Orionshock | why is this merge deleting a file?? |
| 00:56.54 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 00:57.03 | Kemayo | Because a file needs to be deleted! |
| 00:57.35 | CIA-7 | 03mightydre * r54124 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: limit auto-revert to buffs that have a duration. |
| 00:57.37 | Orionshock | NOO |
| 00:57.40 | Orionshock | i need that file |
| 00:58.00 | NivFreak | wth |
| 00:58.02 | NivFreak | iceblock trainable? |
| 00:58.06 | NivFreak | is blizzard smoking crack? |
| 00:58.44 | |Stan| | NivFreak: where did you read that? |
| 00:58.51 | NivFreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765962725&pageNo=2&sid=1#33 |
| 00:58.52 | Kemayo | Orionshock: The thing to ask is "what is wrong about the range of revisions I have chosen to merge". |
| 00:59.08 | Orionshock | i got a around it |
| 00:59.28 | WobWork | freaky |
| 00:59.36 | WobWork | we have a mage in our raiding group called Mightydre |
| 00:59.49 | WobWork | I don't think that's him though |
| 00:59.53 | Orionshock | WobWork: what server are u on? |
| 00:59.58 | WobWork | Argent Dawn |
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| 01:00.54 | WobWork | why? =) |
| 01:01.46 | Poul|Raider | HourEdit:SetText(date("%H",time_var)); Anyone who can spot and point out to me why this is setting it to 5 and not 59. same goes for min, where it set it to 0 instead of 01. |
| 01:01.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Orionshock: "getting around it" sounds like ignoring the real problem ;) |
| 01:02.01 | Orionshock | hehe... well |
| 01:02.04 | Orionshock | true |
| 01:02.13 | Poul|Raider | i have it set to :SetMaxLetters(2); aswell. |
| 01:02.27 | Orionshock | with my googlecode svn, i have the entire root folder checked out somewhere else on my computer... |
| 01:02.53 | Orionshock | so i copied the files over to where i wanted them, added the extra one in that wasn't there before and then commited. |
| 01:03.25 | Poul|Raider | and it seam to work if i set it to SetMaxLetters(3) ;( |
| 01:03.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Orionshock: yeah, that sounds like a nasty hack. If a merge deleted a file, and you want that file back, you really only need to figure out what revision it was deleted in, and do a reverse merge on that revision |
| 01:03.45 | hyperChipmunk | Bibi: one change i noticed in the last build was that they finally did make crashin' thrashin' robots BoUse; they weren't yesterday morning |
| 01:03.58 | Thrae | Orionshock: Normally you have multiple independant repos instead of multiple projects on the same repo |
| 01:04.02 | hyperChipmunk | you may want to investigate from there |
| 01:04.03 | Bibi | c'est toi la grosse bouse hyperChipmunk ! |
| 01:04.16 | Orionshock | no - i added the file in the branches, then when i went to merge it back into the trunk it deleted the file |
| 01:04.27 | hyperChipmunk | oogy boogy won ton soupy to you, too, Bibi ! |
| 01:04.28 | WobWork | ~x fr en c'est toi la grosse bouse hyperChipmunk ! |
| 01:04.35 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 01:04.47 | WobWork | wow, a frenchman called you dung =\ |
| 01:04.56 | hyperChipmunk | oh honh...honh? |
| 01:05.04 | Kemayo | Orionshock: You might be doing the merge reversed, or not from the revision that started the changes. |
| 01:05.15 | Bibi | he started it |
| 01:05.15 | Bibi | :( |
| 01:05.25 | Orionshock | .../ |
| 01:05.36 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, it sounds like revisions on the merge were incorrect |
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| 01:05.46 | Orionshock | prolly |
| 01:05.50 | hyperChipmunk | wtf, no i didn't |
| 01:05.51 | Orionshock | but... don't care that much :D |
| 01:05.52 | cralor_ | wobwork: do u know Lleyna? on AD? |
| 01:06.02 | NightHawkAtWork | people need to read the svn book more. |
| 01:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | i just saw your website where you said you hadn't heard what changes were in the last build, and i told you the only one I'd detected so far |
| 01:06.29 | Kemayo | You *can* merge from branch HEAD to trunk HEAD, but it won't have an orthodox result. What you need to do to preserve proper change history is merge from branch r[whenever you branched] to trunk HEAD. |
| 01:06.48 | WobWork | cralor_: Not off the top of my head, no =) |
| 01:06.58 | Kemayo | Or possibly the other way around. I always have to go read the book before I merge because I get that point confused. :D |
| 01:07.11 | cralor_ | kk |
| 01:07.16 | Tse | [071107:18:52] <buu> Tse: Heh, whups. I got.. distracted. New Terry pratchett! |
| 01:07.24 | Tse | ^ heh how far in did you get with it? |
| 01:08.01 | WobWork | Kemayo: ditto |
| 01:08.01 | hyperChipmunk | oh...BoUse --> bind on usage |
| 01:08.01 | cralor_ | wobwork: u author of addons? never heard of u ... >yet< :P |
| 01:08.01 | hyperChipmunk | harhar |
| 01:08.05 | WobWork | cralor_: I usually go by Wobin |
| 01:08.07 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that's the Great Wobin |
| 01:08.08 | WobWork | When I'm not at work |
| 01:08.13 | cralor_ | ahh |
| 01:08.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo: when doing merges from branch to trunk, I typically will merge from branch revision n, to branch revision n+y, with the target being a working copy of the trunk directory |
| 01:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | he made such addons as MrPlow and WheresMyCow and...uh, MrPlow |
| 01:08.52 | WobWork | . o O (Great Wobin? Do I appear to belivers who hang around in pumpkin patches on Halloween?) |
| 01:09.03 | WobWork | FuXP =P |
| 01:09.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Also, i've often found that if i committed a change in revision n in the branch, to get that revisions change merged to trunk, i have to merge from n-1 to n. |
| 01:09.22 | WobWork | HeyFu, ArmchairAlchemist, ReverseEngineering |
| 01:09.24 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:09.44 | Kemayo | NightHawkAtWork: Yeah. SVN merge syntax is hard to grasp without really grokking revisions, which you don't need to for most day to day usage. |
| 01:09.57 | Kemayo | Orionshock: This will answer all your questions! http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/re16.html |
| 01:09.58 | NightHawkAtWork | because, ultimately, the merge is taking changes from x to y, so if your commit is revision n, the changes from n to n+1 isn't actually anything |
| 01:10.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo: yeah, dealing with svn on a very daily basis for my past few jobs has helped a LOT |
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| 01:10.56 | cralor_ | i like MrPlow :P |
| 01:10.57 | aestil | someone said that doting a second target was lost dps, and that you should only FF 1 target. |
| 01:11.34 | WobWork | aestil: Depends on how you dps |
| 01:11.53 | aestil | my example, and the example used is FLK hunter/shaman |
| 01:11.54 | WobWork | if you only dps with dots and curses, then multimob dotting is the way to go =P |
| 01:12.00 | Kemayo | NightHawkAtWork: That would definitely do it. |
| 01:12.18 | aestil | putting SW:P on the shaman while main DPS is on the hunter |
| 01:12.27 | aestil | its like 3300 DPSC for me. |
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| 01:13.27 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: seems to me that the 1.5s gcd to every what, 18 seconds to keep SW:P on a secondary target is more damage than one mind flay every 36 seconds. |
| 01:13.57 | WobWork | then again, there's mana efficiency |
| 01:14.02 | NightHawkAtWork | true |
| 01:14.36 | NightHawkAtWork | But i mean, the damage has to be done to both regardless |
| 01:14.50 | xyu | does anyone know what the ` key is called? MOre specifically what would the virtual key code for ` be ? ^_^ |
| 01:14.52 | WobWork | also aggro |
| 01:14.53 | NightHawkAtWork | so its not as if the mana goes to waste |
| 01:14.54 | WobWork | tilde |
| 01:14.58 | xyu | tilde is ~ |
| 01:15.03 | WobWork | oh |
| 01:15.07 | WobWork | same key though =) |
| 01:15.11 | xyu | yes |
| 01:15.12 | NightHawkAtWork | i'll admit not knowing a lot about that fight, but i'd imagine any tank should be able to hold agro over dots |
| 01:15.26 | xyu | there's got to be a name for this symbol though ` |
| 01:15.30 | WobWork | there is |
| 01:15.39 | NightHawkAtWork | xyu: diacritic i believe |
| 01:15.54 | WobWork | Grave |
| 01:16.07 | NightHawkAtWork | well, diacritic is the term for an entire class of symbols, really |
| 01:16.27 | xyu | wob has it i think |
| 01:16.30 | WobWork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%60 |
| 01:16.31 | xyu | Grave sounds more familiar |
| 01:16.43 | xyu | thanks |
| 01:16.44 | WobWork | it's the accent, mind you |
| 01:16.45 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: every 24 seconds |
| 01:16.50 | xyu | now to find the Virtual key code for it |
| 01:17.40 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: okay, i had no idea what the duration of SW:p is so i guessed :) But even so, at 24s it should make it even more efficiant for dps |
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| 01:18.14 | WobWork | VK_OEM_3 C0 Windows 2000/XP: For the US standard keyboard, the '`~' key |
| 01:18.28 | Arrowmaster | xyu: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0060/index.htm |
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| 01:19.57 | [AR]Camci | anyone good at macros ? |
| 01:19.58 | [AR]Camci | :P |
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| 01:21.07 | xyu | neat |
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| 01:24.35 | [AR]Camci | checked my PM? ^^ |
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| 01:26.17 | aestil | irc server crash? |
| 01:26.26 | aestil | or did my internet jack up? |
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| 01:35.23 | Nefarion | lol somebody post this on the forums under the title "blue: how to make us happy" (warlocks) |
| 01:35.30 | Nefarion | http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/129521/Make_Green_Flames.html |
| 01:35.47 | Nefarion | apparently they don't know how to do it themselves |
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| 01:46.02 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r54125 10MarkMyTarget/ (. MarkMyTarget.lua MarkMyTarget.toc embeds.xml): |
| 01:46.02 | CIA-7 | MarkMyTarget: initial commit |
| 01:46.02 | CIA-7 | - Your raid symbol applies to your target |
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| 01:49.23 | NeoTron | what the heck is it with green flames anyway? |
| 01:50.28 | cralor_ | what irc client do most people use? |
| 01:50.37 | vithos | weechat! |
| 01:50.47 | NeoTron | I use irssi |
| 01:51.02 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r54126 10MarkMyTarget/: |
| 01:51.02 | CIA-7 | MarkMyTarget: |
| 01:51.02 | CIA-7 | - Externals |
| 01:51.03 | hyperChipmunk | irssi+screen = <3 |
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| 01:51.19 | cralor_ | so far i just like Cosmos' lol. it is in-browser and the GUI is clean |
| 01:51.31 | cralor_ | cosmosui.org/irc.php |
| 01:52.05 | cralor_ | using chatzilla atm. but it aint great |
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| 01:52.15 | Nefarion | NeoTron, you talking about what I linked? |
| 01:53.29 | Nefarion | notice the demonic creatures around. infernals and such, they all have green fire... the reason is they work on demonic fel energies and that turns the fire an awesome sexy green. but the warlocks who work on the same demonic fel energies somehow lack that sexy green... |
| 01:53.46 | Nefarion | logically warlocks should have green fire abilities |
| 01:53.53 | Nefarion | and nobody can argue with sexy |
| 01:53.57 | Ellipsis | GIVE US GREEN FIRE |
| 01:54.08 | Nefarion | totally |
| 01:54.19 | Arrowmaster | make the infernal nobody uses green too and not red |
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| 01:54.45 | Arrowmaster | atleast i think i remember it being red when i last used it years ago |
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| 02:00.44 | xyu | Is there an easy way to edit alts and mains in prat module AltNames? |
| 02:00.53 | xyu | like a GUI? |
| 02:01.04 | xyu | hmm i'm not saying what i mean |
| 02:02.01 | xyu | I need to edit a lot of alts and names easily and don't want to "Find Characters" to see if their alt name is correct. |
| 02:02.02 | xyu | oh well |
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| 02:09.34 | Tse | can anybody get onto ptr? |
| 02:10.07 | Tse | any rogues here? does Weapon Expertise in 2.3 impact maces now? |
| 02:13.23 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:14.02 | Diao | it impacts all weapons |
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| 02:18.02 | Tse | well, if you are capped in +hit, then how would it really help besides slight dps? |
| 02:18.09 | Tse | <--- doesnt know rogues that well |
| 02:18.42 | Arrowmaster | +hit only effects your chance to miss |
| 02:19.22 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt do a thing to your attacks chance to be dodged or parried |
| 02:19.32 | Tse | gotcha. roger |
| 02:20.18 | Arrowmaster | and from what i remember, mobs and players cant parry from behind except due to lag that seems to happen quite often |
| 02:20.42 | Arrowmaster | and only mobs can dodge from behind, players cant except due to lag that seems to happen quite often |
| 02:23.33 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54127 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: tweaks and bugfix |
| 02:24.31 | Hotphoenix | you can get a parry from behind a mob but its a bug and is actually a miss iirc |
| 02:26.30 | Tse | i see. discussing points in Weap Expertise for combat mace/ar/prep/hemo |
| 02:26.37 | Tse | i dont see good reason to put points in it |
| 02:26.48 | Arrowmaster | for pvp? |
| 02:26.51 | Tse | yas |
| 02:26.55 | starlon | Some mobs will turn around to target a player to apply a debuff or cast something. That's where alot of the parries from behind myth comes from. |
| 02:27.26 | Arrowmaster | if your short on points then dont bother with it i guess |
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| 02:40.00 | Orionshock | but u can sort a dict table :P |
| 02:45.10 | Antiarc | So uh. |
| 02:45.15 | Antiarc | Mages are getting trainable Ice Block. |
| 02:45.18 | Antiarc | Good freakin' game. |
| 02:45.22 | Moozh | what? |
| 02:45.23 | Moozh | linkz |
| 02:45.32 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765962725&pageNo=2&sid=1#33 |
| 02:45.49 | Antiarc | 30 sec Hypothermia and trainable Ice Block. |
| 02:45.56 | Wobin | hum |
| 02:45.58 | Antiarc | That's just plain old retardation right there. |
| 02:45.58 | Wobin | trainable when? |
| 02:46.07 | Wobin | looks like I'm switching to fire =P |
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| 02:46.16 | starlon | Next week |
| 02:46.22 | Moozh | holy shit. |
| 02:46.22 | Antiarc | Oh hay look, 3 minute mages with ice block in the arena. |
| 02:46.25 | Antiarc | Good game everyone. |
| 02:46.28 | Antiarc | Good effing game. |
| 02:46.30 | Wobin | more what level trainable |
| 02:46.34 | Antiarc | 70. |
| 02:46.34 | Wobin | than 'when' |
| 02:46.44 | Antiarc | "Two things we'll be making improvements to in the near future (although these aren't likely to make it in on time for 2.3) are having iceblock be trainable" |
| 02:46.50 | Wobin | That's a bit weird |
| 02:46.51 | Antiarc | that is "Expect it in 2.4" |
| 02:47.21 | starlon | Ah, read it on Curse earlier and I was hearing 2.3 |
| 02:48.07 | Antiarc | Seriously, I'm freaking pissed about this. |
| 02:48.26 | Antiarc | You ignore frost mages in the arena because they give up punch for the ability to guarantee they aren't focused down |
| 02:48.27 | Moozh | i'm undeniably happy |
| 02:48.39 | Moozh | i hate frost |
| 02:48.43 | Moozh | and now i get its only strength |
| 02:48.46 | Antiarc | And now you will have AP+POM+Pyro mages that can burst your healer and iceblock to avoid being focused. |
| 02:48.51 | Moozh | there's no reason to go frost ever again |
| 02:50.03 | Neebler | improved crit when target is frost novad? |
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| 02:53.43 | Nefarion | anyone know how the game formats player-name hyperlinks in the chat? |
| 02:54.47 | cralor_ | huh? |
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| 03:04.04 | kaiden^ | Anyone know if there has been a user based fix for FlexBar2 since cnc hasn't posted a fix for it |
| 03:04.10 | kaiden^ | it appears it's been broken for a couple of weeks |
| 03:04.18 | Ellipsis | broken? |
| 03:04.20 | Ellipsis | it's working fine for me |
| 03:06.32 | kaiden^ | when you /fb create button the call brings up a cyCircled error, now i know your gonna say well that's a cyCircled bug |
| 03:06.41 | kaiden^ | however, when you downgrade FB back a few weeks, the bug goes away |
| 03:06.52 | kaiden^ | Interface\AddOns\cyCircled\core.lua:311: attempt to call method 'GetCheckedTexture' (a nil value) is the error it's throwing |
| 03:06.59 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 03:07.04 | Ellipsis | I know why that happened |
| 03:07.17 | Ellipsis | the cycircled fb plugin needs to be updated |
| 03:07.52 | kaiden^ | is there an update available for it? :) as i just did a fresh install of all of my addons from the wowaceupdater |
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| 03:08.16 | Ellipsis | I'm not sure who's responsible for the fb support in cycircled...possibly cnc himself |
| 03:08.25 | Ellipsis | all I know is that it works fine if you don't run cycircled ;P |
| 03:08.48 | Ellipsis | and the error probably isn't a big deal, it doesn't cause any visible problems does it? |
| 03:09.02 | kaiden^ | well the problem is, cnc posted on the 30th that he fixed the problem |
| 03:09.04 | kaiden^ | but it's back again |
| 03:09.51 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 03:11.53 | Ellipsis | I don't see any changes to either cycircled or fb that should have broken it |
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| 03:12.07 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 03:12.15 | Ellipsis | and I'm a bit confused about how it's been broken for 2 weeks if it was fixed a week ago? |
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| 03:13.26 | kaiden^ | Ellipsis, it was broken, everytime i looked it was not fixed, i haven't played for a week |
| 03:13.30 | kaiden^ | i come back, it's still broken |
| 03:13.44 | kaiden^ | i look on boards, there's a post with him saying he fixed it on the 30th |
| 03:13.49 | kaiden^ | :) |
| 03:13.52 | Ellipsis | oh, I see |
| 03:13.56 | Ellipsis | so the fix may not have actually fixed it |
| 03:14.56 | Ellipsis | wait |
| 03:15.03 | Ellipsis | are you running it with the highlight module disabled? |
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| 03:16.09 | kaiden^ | Ellipsis, no |
| 03:16.12 | kaiden^ | just running it with default |
| 03:16.21 | Ellipsis | odd |
| 03:16.56 | Ellipsis | yeah, you'll probably have to ping him about that |
| 03:17.12 | Ellipsis | it's a flaw in the button type change he did for me >_< |
| 03:17.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Hehe, "Londo/G'Kar '08" lawn signs. win. |
| 03:17.45 | kaiden^ | do you remember the date he made that change? |
| 03:17.58 | kaiden^ | so i can revert back to that date |
| 03:18.29 | Ellipsis | the 29th |
| 03:18.49 | kaiden^ | cool, thanks :) |
| 03:18.53 | Ellipsis | anything before r53499 should work |
| 03:19.13 | Ellipsis | er, 53467 |
| 03:19.16 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 03:19.17 | kaiden^ | actually here goes looks like he updated it 1 minute ago |
| 03:19.25 | kaiden^ | gonna see if he fixed it first |
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| 03:20.00 | Ellipsis | he did? o.O |
| 03:20.18 | Ellipsis | fisheye says his last change was the bugfix 5 hours ago |
| 03:20.55 | kaiden^ | hrm, odd, files.wowace.com saysFlexBar2< 1 minute agoAction Bars |
| 03:21.03 | Ellipsis | oh, probably a lib update or something |
| 03:22.38 | kaiden^ | oh .. darn :/ ok, i'll update back to oct 26th release |
| 03:22.48 | starlon | Why do some mods on files.wowace.com not show up on WAU? |
| 03:22.48 | kaiden^ | there we go... much better :) |
| 03:24.04 | starlon | http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ for instance |
| 03:24.07 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54128 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: Updated localization koKR |
| 03:24.21 | Xelopheris | <3 gurtogg! |
| 03:24.36 | Xelopheris | ONE mage. |
| 03:24.40 | Xelopheris | ONE fucking mage in the raid |
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| 03:24.54 | starlon | Demand water |
| 03:25.09 | Nefarion | i can has sum water plx? |
| 03:25.11 | Thrae | Xelopheris: Uhh, tell the other mages to lower their standards? |
| 03:25.36 | Xelopheris | no, I'm saying we're at gurtogg, and we have one mage in the raid, and he's taken half the effing fell rages |
| 03:25.37 | Thrae | Oh wait, you mean one mage in the entire raid, not...ah. |
| 03:25.41 | Nefarion | starlon: RaidBuffFu is on the WAU. check the "outdated" list. |
| 03:25.50 | Nefarion | it's below the "not installed" |
| 03:25.51 | starlon | Ah |
| 03:26.22 | starlon | Doesn't show up |
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| 03:45.31 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r54129 10LittleWigs/ (Coilfang/Kalithresh.lua HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua): |
| 03:45.32 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 03:45.32 | CIA-7 | Omor: Update zhTW translation. |
| 03:45.32 | CIA-7 | Kalithresh: Update zhTW translation. |
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| 03:46.17 | kaiden^ | Anyone know if you can show how much mana you have while in a form using [tag]'s? |
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| 04:13.23 | durcyn | eek. |
| 04:13.23 | Xelopheris | :O |
| 04:13.23 | Xelopheris | Hi you guys |
| 04:13.25 | Xelopheris | it was lonely |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-7 | 03dfscott * r54130 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (4 files): |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 04:13.25 | CIA-7 | - Initial work to add minimap button (not functional yet) |
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| 04:13.25 | Cryect | quite lonely |
| 04:13.51 | Kirkburn | Was everyone on separate nodes? |
| 04:14.01 | Kirkburn | I was on two different ones and both had about 30 people |
| 04:16.25 | NightHawkTheSane | I was on my own node. |
| 04:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | there was no one else there. it was strangely pleasant. |
| 04:16.33 | Kirkburn | Aww |
| 04:17.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, should I play more twilight princess, or play my druid.. |
| 04:17.27 | Fisker- | me and nymbia had sex while you were gone |
| 04:17.38 | Fisker- | after i killed him of course |
| 04:17.40 | NightHawkTheSane | you do that while we're here anyway. |
| 04:17.48 | Fisker- | >* |
| 04:17.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 04:18.02 | nymbia | that's true |
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| 04:19.55 | Funkeh` | fuck off |
| 04:20.00 | Funkeh` | nymbia is mine |
| 04:20.11 | Fisker- | NO MWE |
| 04:21.12 | aestil | freaking hell, i think omen is screw on VR. |
| 04:21.26 | Ellipsis | or maybe you are |
| 04:21.31 | Kirkburn | VR = voidreaver? |
| 04:22.14 | Kirkburn | Crud |
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| 04:22.14 | aestil | revision 50104 of omen? how old is that? |
| 04:22.14 | Kirkburn | ooooooooooooold :P |
| 04:22.14 | Ellipsis | quite old |
| 04:22.14 | aestil | ball park it? |
| 04:22.14 | Ellipsis | current is 54 something |
| 04:22.16 | Kirkburn | Omen is based on Threat though, so if anything is to blame it's liekly that |
| 04:22.31 | aestil | yeah, thats what i mean |
| 04:22.35 | aestil | threat 1 revious 50104 = how old? |
| 04:22.36 | Kirkburn | Omen just displays the info, so the rev info for that is what matters |
| 04:22.39 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 04:22.41 | aestil | bah, i know this. |
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| 04:22.44 | Kirkburn | I'd say several weeks |
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| 04:23.31 | Ellipsis | sept 27 |
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| 04:25.58 | aestil | Antiarc: ping |
| 04:29.10 | Xuerian | Hmm, alright... So modifying MPQs will get your account banned... What about adding new ones? 0_o |
| 04:31.41 | Fisker- | no |
| 04:31.49 | fridgid | same offence |
| 04:31.51 | Fisker- | modifying files will get your account banned |
| 04:32.12 | Fisker- | And by files it is not limited to overriding the MPQ or anything like that |
| 04:32.25 | Fisker- | so you're getting ownt |
| 04:33.16 | Xuerian | blah. |
| 04:33.17 | nymbia | do they checksum to check for that these days? |
| 04:33.32 | Xuerian | http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/Macswe/DireBearPreviewBothRaces.jpg <--- |
| 04:33.40 | Xuerian | People doing what lazy fucktards at blizz won't |
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| 04:35.32 | Xuerian | 'ownt', in so many words |
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| 04:35.45 | testify | Brown = tauren? |
| 04:35.50 | Xuerian | horns = tauren |
| 04:35.53 | Xuerian | so yes |
| 04:36.04 | testify | ahh yeah, missed those |
| 04:36.07 | Cryect | Long Ears = Night Elves! |
| 04:36.48 | testify | The cat one is cooler |
| 04:37.14 | Xuerian | The pack is done via patch-6/7/8.mpq, guess it probably doesn't work with bc anyway. That and combined with checksums for overriden files, well, bah |
| 04:37.36 | Cryect | yeah you have to use a third party program to disable the checksum checking |
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| 04:38.28 | Xuerian | Of which I don't have a subscription to, so boring shapeshifts for me :) |
| 04:38.36 | Cryect | subscription? |
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| 04:49.46 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54131 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Developer Notes.txt): |
| 04:49.46 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 04:49.46 | CIA-7 | -Fixed a bug that prevented buttons from staying hidden when the UI was reloaded. |
| 04:49.46 | CIA-7 | -Updated to-do list |
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| 04:51.58 | Wobin | The cat and stag are cool |
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| 05:04.41 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54132 10FixTracker/ (. FixTracker.lua FixTracker.toc): FixTracker: This addon allows you to move the Minimap frame whilst keeping the 2.3 Tracker button attached to it; This is a temporary solution until Blizzard LISTEN to its feedback and fix this bug |
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| 05:11.23 | CIA-7 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 05:11.23 | CIA-7 | - update koKR localization |
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| 05:11.27 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 05:11.27 | CIA-7 | - Remove MyMinimapButton.lua from toc to prevent MetaHud conflict |
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| 05:33.56 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:33.56 | CIA-7 | -Tradeskill : re-update koKR localization |
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| 05:41.51 | Antiarc | I'm the master looter for our raid. Is there a mod that will autoloot things like Marks of the Illidari to a certain person? |
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| 05:48.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: have you checked out xloot master? i dont think it has anything like auto-looting to certain people, but it does make the interface nicer, so it might be easier. |
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| 05:49.46 | RaydenUnic | where do i set the position of buffs in pitbull? |
| 05:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | in the aura module |
| 05:51.54 | RaydenUnic | i don't see a position... |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-7 | 03nymbia 07dev * r54138 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1.lua: |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-7 | - Fixed the infinite loop. /facepalm, i knew i missed something that i meant to add there. |
| 05:51.59 | CIA-7 | - This thing might mostly work, test it if you want. |
| 05:52.12 | RaydenUnic | oh there |
| 05:52.29 | RaydenUnic | ah |
| 05:52.32 | RaydenUnic | it doesn't want to save |
| 05:52.34 | RaydenUnic | piece of crap |
| 05:52.36 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: weeeeeee infinite loops! |
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| 05:53.27 | nymbia | wot ^ |
| 05:53.45 | NightHawkTheSane | weeee netsplits! |
| 05:54.03 | nymbia | at least i didnt get stuck on the same node as NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:54.07 | Ellipsis | I win, that netsplit *caused* an infinite loop in a script I was writing |
| 05:54.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, right? |
| 05:54.13 | Ellipsis | double weeee for me |
| 05:54.19 | nymbia | that's hardcore Ellipsis |
| 05:54.47 | Ellipsis | now what was the hotkey to force-break a script in mIRC? |
| 05:55.29 | NightHawkTheSane | alt-f4 |
| 05:55.35 | Ellipsis | you suck |
| 05:55.39 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 05:56.09 | Ellipsis | just for future reference, ctrl-break does it |
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| 05:57.08 | Ellipsis | if only I had some idea why it was doing that though :( |
| 05:57.22 | Poul|Raider | function question() return lol(),nil; end --if lol() got no return value, is val = question() then = nil,nil or just nil? |
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| 05:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: protip: while(true) is -bad- ;) |
| 05:58.23 | nymbia | Poul|Raider: just nil |
| 05:58.24 | Ellipsis | well yes |
| 05:58.27 | Ellipsis | I just have to figure out why...oh |
| 05:58.33 | Ellipsis | maybe I should increment my counter every iteration |
| 05:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 05:58.37 | Ellipsis | rather than leaving it the same |
| 05:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | that's not so bad. |
| 05:59.01 | Ellipsis | WTB for loops |
| 05:59.07 | Poul|Raider | thx nymbia |
| 05:59.28 | NightHawkTheSane | my coworker wrote an infinite loop trying to re-arrange the order of nodes in an xml document. he removed the looped through the nodes, removing the current one and adding it to the end. >< |
| 05:59.38 | Ellipsis | hehe, that's cute |
| 06:00.00 | Shirik | lua> return select(4, 1), nil |
| 06:00.09 | Shirik | bleh |
| 06:00.27 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 06:00.55 | Shirik | nymbia: I'm fairly certain that's wrong |
| 06:01.10 | Shirik | doing "/print select(4, 1), nil" indicates nil, nil |
| 06:01.20 | Shirik | (@ Poul|Raider ) |
| 06:01.48 | Shirik | and select(4,1) returns nothing |
| 06:02.05 | Shirik | oh oh |
| 06:02.07 | Shirik | I misread the question |
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| 06:02.21 | Shirik | but Poul|Raider, you're thinking of WAY too many things at once |
| 06:02.34 | Shirik | that is "nil" not because of the return of nothing, but because it gets truncated to only the first return |
| 06:02.44 | Shirik | A variable cannot store more than one value |
| 06:02.49 | Poul|Raider | :D |
| 06:03.51 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: There are many cases where while(true) is a perfectly acceptable practice |
| 06:03.59 | Shirik | most servers use this technique |
| 06:04.19 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54139 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 06:04.19 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 06:04.19 | CIA-7 | -Added an option to hide tooltips |
| 06:04.19 | CIA-7 | -Began adding tooltips to buttons/sphere |
| 06:04.25 | RaydenUnic | i can't get these debufs at all |
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| 06:04.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'm well aware of that, but i was being very largely sarcastic ;) |
| 06:04.53 | Shirik | It's 1AM and I have not had a good day. I am not picking up sarcasm well >< |
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| 06:08.18 | RaydenUnic | whatever changed in pitbull recently sucks |
| 06:08.18 | RaydenUnic | it screwed everything up and now i can't get it back |
| 06:08.18 | Poul|Raider | Shirik, my problem was that i was getting a error on a iterator, so just wanted to know more in detail what was actually going on, but problem was a () in my return. return citer,nil,0 ~= return citer(),nil,0. |
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| 06:09.00 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:09.08 | Shirik | yes that is rather different |
| 06:09.43 | Poul|Raider | ye i found out |
| 06:10.16 | Gngsk | nymbia, ping |
| 06:10.31 | Poul|Raider | but still not 100 sure of what it mean, but return citer,nil,0 vs citer(),nil,0 is that in the first it return the function and in the second it return the value after its evalueted right?= |
| 06:11.11 | nymbia | Gngsk: yo |
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| 06:11.43 | Gngsk | was wondering if you could add a feature to spellbinder that let you setup a queue for items. like for daily quests etc |
| 06:12.18 | nymbia | hrm.. |
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| 06:13.13 | nymbia | it'd need a dummy frame to assign the queue macro to. |
| 06:13.18 | nymbia | unless i'm misunderstanding |
| 06:13.25 | Gngsk | aight, here's my example |
| 06:13.45 | Gngsk | the bombs for the ogri'la bombing quest, the bombs for the skyguard bombing quest and the booterang |
| 06:13.50 | Gngsk | I use the same keybinding for all 3 |
| 06:13.58 | Gngsk | but I have to set it each time I get the item when I accept the quest |
| 06:14.25 | Gngsk | I always ever only have 1 of those items in my bag at a time |
| 06:14.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: is it that hard to assign the keybinding to an action bar button, and drag what you want there? |
| 06:14.42 | nymbia | ok, so just to have it set to whatever you have |
| 06:15.01 | Gngsk | NightHawkTheSane, I use spellbinder, not actionbars |
| 06:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i fail to see how my point is any less valid. |
| 06:15.37 | Gngsk | but yea, if I use actionbars it'd be easy to just switch what's in it |
| 06:15.52 | nymbia | Gngsk: i'll give some thought to how best to implement that.. but i need to go to sleep soon, so remind me ;) |
| 06:16.04 | Gngsk | okay, cool, thanks for the consideration |
| 06:16.29 | Ellipsis | I'm confused |
| 06:16.39 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with binding a key to a macro that tries to use all three items? |
| 06:17.08 | Gngsk | I'll try that out |
| 06:17.12 | nymbia | do they fail over correctly when you're missing the top ones? |
| 06:17.18 | Ellipsis | should |
| 06:17.26 | Ellipsis | albeit with an ugly UI error |
| 06:17.28 | NightHawkTheSane | thats another good suggestion |
| 06:17.53 | Poul|Raider | doh, i was making a loop over a table based on a dropdown box, where one is RDX.Raid() (which have its own iterator) for k,v in RDX.Raid() do etc. so had to write the same for my tables etc to for k,v in switch() do but well could properly just have returned pairs(mytbl) in the switch function instead of making the iterator. |
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| 06:19.29 | Ellipsis | so, this is a really obscure question, but it can't hurt to try: anyone know of a pixel font with a differentiation between | and l? |
| 06:19.46 | Ellipsis | every one I've tried seems to make them both the same :( |
| 06:20.02 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean by pixel font? |
| 06:20.27 | Ellipsis | a font designed to look clean at sizes below 8px |
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| 06:20.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 06:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | google programmer fonts. |
| 06:21.18 | Ellipsis | well, I've got lots of sites full of pixel fonts |
| 06:21.20 | NightHawkTheSane | any good programmer font should look good and differentiate between all chracters properly |
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| 06:21.39 | Ellipsis | I just can't find a specific font that works OH GOD NOT AGAIN |
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| 06:22.09 | Ellipsis | *ahem* |
| 06:22.09 | NightHawkTheSane | have you tried ProFont? the lowest i've used it is 9px, but it's pretty clear. |
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| 06:22.56 | Ellipsis | right now I'm using one of the 04 fonts |
| 06:22.59 | Ellipsis | at 6px |
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| 06:23.32 | Arrowmaster | 6px? |
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| 06:23.37 | Arrowmaster | damn thats fucking small |
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| 06:23.52 | nondysju1ction | hello |
| 06:23.57 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> thats what she said. |
| 06:23.59 | Ellipsis | yes, it's for my G15 screen |
| 06:24.03 | nondysju1ction | Anyone here experienced with Prat? |
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| 06:24.14 | Ellipsis | at 6px I can fit an entire *five lines of text* :D |
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| 06:24.34 | Arrowmaster | ah |
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| 06:25.54 | Arrowmaster | so anybody want to do a couple weeks of backloged database management homework for me? i keep wanting to claw my eyes out with a rusty spork due to bordom from this shit |
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| 06:27.20 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull Kryhon |
| 06:27.22 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Kryhon, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (40/0/21). 8651 HP; 8738 Mana; 152 mana regen; 50 mp5; 8157 Armour; 4.28% melee crit; 246 spell crit; 24 spell hit; 514 +spell dmg/heal; 4.28% dodge; 5.00% block; 102 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1005 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv5839 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qev88 ][ Updated: Wed Nov 7 21:32:11 2007 EST ]] |
| 06:27.38 | Ellipsis | if this works, I'm gonna cry |
| 06:27.59 | Arrowmaster | what works? |
| 06:28.13 | Ellipsis | doesn't matter, it didn't |
| 06:28.37 | Arrowmaster | youll probably have to look for much older fonts |
| 06:29.08 | Arrowmaster | most new ones are perty cheap and dont have any effort put into them at lower sizes |
| 06:29.36 | Ellipsis | well, there are some people out there who are crazy and actually create pixel fonts still |
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| 06:31.30 | Ellipsis | aha |
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| 06:31.57 | Arrowmaster | you could also create your own font or edit another one |
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| 06:32.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'm almost to the point of editing this one |
| 06:32.24 | Ellipsis | it's a one pixel change |
| 06:32.28 | Arrowmaster | eudcedit.exe |
| 06:32.29 | Ellipsis | but I'm lazy :( |
| 06:32.38 | Arrowmaster | built into windows |
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| 06:34.38 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 06:35.12 | NightHawkTheSane | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
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| 06:35.35 | art3mis | check it night |
| 06:35.37 | Elgrim | hello dear modders! |
| 06:35.39 | art3mis | <-- vhost! |
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| 06:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pretty impressed that i actually managed to get the number of characters exactly the same |
| 06:36.41 | Elgrim | Ive run into a problem using Quartz, and I cant seem to get the buff bars for target and focus to show up. Any clues? |
| 06:37.31 | Arrowmaster | they dont show up when you target yourself? |
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| 06:38.17 | Diao | did you enable it |
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| 06:39.33 | Paen1 | Hm...how would I go about disabling my addon if the character is not a mage? |
| 06:39.41 | Paen1 | I'd obviously check the user's class |
| 06:39.49 | Paen1 | but I'm not sure how I'd go about it from there |
| 06:40.09 | Elgrim | Arrowmaster ok ill try on another player |
| 06:41.04 | Arrowmaster | if select(2,UnitClass("player")) ~= "MAGE" then DisableAddOn("ADDONNAMEHERE") return end |
| 06:41.49 | Paen1 | Arrowmaster: thanks :D just found the API function for it too lol |
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| 06:43.09 | Paen1 | Wondering if that should go into OnEnable() or OnInitialize |
| 06:43.10 | Paen1 | () |
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| 06:43.53 | Arrowmaster | neither |
| 06:43.56 | Arrowmaster | very top |
| 06:44.23 | Arrowmaster | as in the very first thing that happens |
| 06:44.40 | Elgrim | Ok I still cant get them to show. The buffs/debuff bars for Quartz on Focus/Target |
| 06:44.55 | Ellipsis | test | |
| 06:45.08 | Ellipsis | well, it almost worked |
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| 06:51.10 | Elgrim | Ellipsis honi, help me out here :D |
| 06:51.39 | Ellipsis | eh? |
| 06:51.56 | Elgrim | You helped me out with pitbull buffs befoure |
| 06:52.07 | Elgrim | Now I got trouble with Quartz buffs :D |
| 06:52.19 | Ellipsis | what kind of problem are you having? |
| 06:52.28 | Elgrim | They dont show up, at all.. |
| 06:52.35 | Ellipsis | do you have the module enabled? |
| 06:52.45 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 06:53.04 | Elgrim | I enable them in the configuration menu, set the anchor to free and toy around with the possition cordinates |
| 06:53.08 | Elgrim | but cant ever get them to show |
| 06:53.13 | Elgrim | for target/focus |
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| 06:53.25 | Ellipsis | does anything show when you unlock it? |
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| 06:54.42 | Elgrim | nop |
| 06:54.43 | Elgrim | :( |
| 06:55.26 | Ellipsis | sounds like you might have moved it off your screen |
| 06:55.29 | Elgrim | well |
| 06:55.54 | Elgrim | should be able to get them back with the possition cordinates |
| 06:55.59 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 06:56.10 | vhaarr | norgs: hey what's happening with svn.norganna.org? |
| 06:56.16 | Paen1 | weird |
| 06:56.18 | Elgrim | and I dont quite understand this anchor stuff, shouldnt I see a movable anchor when I set it to free? :( |
| 06:56.48 | Paen1 | calling DisableAddon("Cryolysis 2") doesn't stop the XML from showing up |
| 06:56.57 | Paen1 | anyone have any idea why? |
| 06:57.17 | Nargiddley | it will next load |
| 06:57.26 | Elgrim | Maybe its bugged with Pitbull? |
| 06:57.39 | Elgrim | ill try loading only quartz. sec |
| 06:57.49 | Paen1 | it's also not disabling it forever...hm... |
| 06:57.56 | Nargiddley | DisableAddOn is the same as unticking the addon at char select |
| 06:58.13 | Paen1 | one sec, may be a type |
| 06:58.15 | Paen1 | *typo |
| 06:58.35 | Diao | Should it possibly be Cryolysis2 |
| 06:58.41 | Diao | instead of Cryolysis 2 |
| 06:58.42 | Elgrim | ok, with only quartz loaded I see them |
| 06:58.56 | Elgrim | so its bugged with some other adon.. i got to figure out wich one.. |
| 06:58.58 | Paen1 | the name in the Addon List is Cryolysis 2 |
| 06:59.02 | Elgrim | I use only ace2 adons |
| 06:59.13 | Nargiddley | you want the folder name afaik |
| 06:59.27 | Paen1 | that my be it then |
| 06:59.30 | Paen1 | *may |
| 06:59.31 | Paen1 | lemme try it |
| 06:59.43 | Diao | yeah |
| 06:59.45 | Diao | cause in the WTF folder |
| 06:59.50 | Diao | under Addons.txt it's all folder names |
| 07:00.27 | Paen1 | that did it |
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| 07:00.41 | Paen1 | thanks :) |
| 07:00.48 | CIA-7 | 03apal * r54141 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 07:00.48 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 07:00.48 | CIA-7 | -TradeSkill: Fix my mistakes. |
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| 07:04.18 | whizter | hi. is there an addon that adds all those circle buttons around the minimap (that aren't yet in the fubar) to a nice looking bar oder something? |
| 07:04.48 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54142 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 07:04.48 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 07:04.48 | CIA-7 | -Added a class check that disables the addon if the character isn't a mage |
| 07:05.23 | Paen1 | right click the circle button and uncheck attach to minimap |
| 07:05.25 | Diao | simpleminimap will do it whizter, but it also changes the rest of your minimap |
| 07:05.27 | Paen1 | that should send it to fubar |
| 07:05.38 | Ellipsis | minimap button bag? I think that's the name |
| 07:06.01 | Paen1 | maybe I misunderstood the question lol |
| 07:06.20 | Ellipsis | I think he means addons that create their own buttons, not fubar-created buttons o.O |
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| 07:06.59 | Paen1 | Ah...speaking of Fubar, any idea how hard it is to setup fubar support for a mod? |
| 07:07.25 | Ellipsis | fairly simple |
| 07:07.35 | Ellipsis | why do you think so many people do it? :P |
| 07:07.39 | Paen1 | lol |
| 07:07.58 | Paen1 | I'll have to look into it later...getting too tired to code now |
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| 07:08.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: because everyone knows your modisn't cool unlesit has a fubar plugin |
| 07:10.33 | Kerafyrm | awesome |
| 07:10.33 | Moozh | lots of netsplits |
| 07:10.40 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSane: your mom's not cool either, that doesn't mean people don't use her! |
| 07:10.40 | NightHawkTheSane | people don't, we're so poor this month. :( |
| 07:10.40 | Ellipsis | lulz |
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| 07:13.34 | whizter | Diao, thx |
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| 07:18.56 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r54143 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Bugfix when using :AddSet directly. |
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| 07:22.15 | CIA-7 | 03next96 * r54144 10ActionCombat/ (ActionCombat.toc Locale_koKR.lua): |
| 07:22.15 | CIA-7 | ActionCombat : |
| 07:22.15 | CIA-7 | - Added locale koKR (by Pmang) |
| 07:22.21 | Diao | what's actioncombat o_o |
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| 07:25.24 | durcyn | Diao: looks like it drops icon reminders on your screen for certain buffs and abilities |
| 07:26.14 | Diao | ah |
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| 07:32.54 | Elgrim | Ellipsis honi, i got one more question for you. Hope I aint taking too much of your time. |
| 07:33.05 | Ellipsis | not at all, what's up? |
| 07:33.10 | Elgrim | And I hope when I get all my stuff together, ive got experience to help other people here. |
| 07:33.33 | Elgrim | I cant seem to find a way to remove the shadowy clock countdown in Pitbull Buffs |
| 07:33.51 | Ellipsis | go to the aura settings, disable "countdown spiral" I believe it is |
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| 07:34.37 | Bejitt | it's under global settings |
| 07:34.56 | Bejitt | Global Settings -> Aura , Cooldown Spiral should be the first option |
| 07:35.47 | Elgrim | ah there |
| 07:35.50 | Elgrim | global setings |
| 07:35.54 | Elgrim | thanks |
| 07:36.16 | Bejitt | np |
| 07:36.34 | Elgrim | I also just a pitbull alt-aura mod, anyone familar what the difference is with this mod? |
| 07:37.22 | Ellipsis | it was created because the original aura module can be laggy in raids when there are a lot of debuffs up |
| 07:37.47 | Ellipsis | the code is much more streamlined for that situation, and there are a few other differences which you may or may not like |
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| 07:38.00 | Ellipsis | if the lag issue doesn't affect you, then just use whichever one you like better |
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| 07:38.51 | charon | morning |
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| 07:43.07 | Elgrim | ok thanks alot all |
| 07:43.20 | Elgrim | if anyone interested in seeing the compilation im puting together with these great mods |
| 07:43.28 | Elgrim | ill be posting a screenshot |
| 07:45.03 | Elgrim | maybe it can give tips or suggestion to someone else compiling these mods |
| 07:45.52 | Elgrim | Here is one screenshot in action: http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3Xta/view-image/wowscrnshot-110807-083859.html |
| 07:46.15 | Elgrim | And here is one in configuration mode |
| 07:46.19 | Elgrim | http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3Xtb/view-image/wowscrnshot-110807-084205.html |
| 07:46.45 | ramoz | what dottimer is tat Elgrim? |
| 07:46.48 | ramoz | that* |
| 07:47.17 | Elgrim | Its Quartz |
| 07:47.25 | Elgrim | same mod as I use for the castingbar |
| 07:47.29 | ramoz | ah, ok |
| 07:48.26 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.37 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 07:48.46 | ramoz | fail |
| 07:49.01 | kebinusan | full of fail yes |
| 07:49.04 | Orionshock | hehe... might as well say it here too |
| 07:49.36 | ramoz | Elgrim: is that AltAura or the default PitBull one? |
| 07:49.41 | Orionshock | i got my mod working, it's called Sick of Clicking Daliys , http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/ |
| 07:50.00 | kebinusan | does it do autoturnins and accepts for them? |
| 07:50.24 | Orionshock | it's a fairly simple addon that picks up and turns in daily quests for Ogri'la , Skettis and now Netherwing |
| 07:50.37 | Elgrim | ramoz default |
| 07:50.47 | kebinusan | Orionshock: you should make it a module for Automaton :-) |
| 07:50.54 | kebinusan | I'll probably check it out tho |
| 07:51.06 | Orionshock | it's not an "Automation" thing |
| 07:51.08 | ramoz | Orionshock: is it any config for it, or do you have to edit the core |
| 07:51.22 | kebinusan | Ive gotten in the habit of picking up 12 or so dailies then alternating what 10 I turn in so its not so boring every day |
| 07:51.33 | ramoz | like [L["Nethermine Flayer Hide"]] = false, |
| 07:51.33 | ramoz | [L["Netherwing Crystals"]] = true, |
| 07:51.53 | Orionshock | you have to edit the core to make changes yes |
| 07:51.58 | ramoz | ok |
| 07:52.17 | Orionshock | but doing so should be fairly simple |
| 07:52.28 | Orionshock | you can enable / disable specific NPC's and quests |
| 07:53.47 | Orionshock | just throw the true / false on the quest |
| 07:54.29 | Orionshock | adding in a slash command configureation is due for the v4 |
| 07:54.38 | ramoz | i will after wrk |
| 07:55.41 | Orionshock | kebinusan: Phax the current maintainer of automation i think has specificly said no to adding it in as a module |
| 07:56.31 | Elgrim | So what do you do all day now? ive completed my UI and im satisfied. |
| 07:56.43 | Elgrim | Dont tell me actually to play WoW. |
| 07:56.46 | Orionshock | Elgrim: you play wow |
| 07:56.56 | Elgrim | naaah that game sucks. |
| 07:57.03 | ramoz | Orionshock: weab doesnt work on it anymore? |
| 07:57.06 | Orionshock | ZOMG you sit back and appreciate the work by using it |
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| 07:57.40 | Orionshock | ramoz: i don't know - phanx just seems to be the current maintainer of it |
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| 07:58.11 | Elgrim | I need to reconfigure something |
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| 07:58.25 | Elgrim | Ellipsis tell me something in my comp. sucks |
| 07:58.51 | Elgrim | Orionshock :) |
| 07:59.16 | Ellipsis | eh? |
| 07:59.28 | ramoz | i think your unitframes are to big |
| 07:59.33 | Orionshock | Elgrim: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102407_053132.jpg |
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| 07:59.42 | ramoz | but i like it minimalistic |
| 07:59.44 | Orionshock | ... i know i twitch when i think about it |
| 07:59.52 | Elgrim | ramoz ty |
| 08:01.01 | Elgrim | Orionshock thats ur UI? |
| 08:01.30 | Ellipsis | eesh |
| 08:01.42 | Ellipsis | Orionshock, how can you still see? :P |
| 08:01.43 | Orionshock | yes Elgrim it is... |
| 08:01.49 | Elgrim | looks cool, and it sure feeds you alot of information! :D |
| 08:01.50 | Orionshock | easily |
| 08:01.55 | Orionshock | it's called alt-z |
| 08:02.07 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 08:02.15 | Ellipsis | why have a UI at all? |
| 08:02.35 | Orionshock | well oddly enough i actualy do use everything on screen |
| 08:02.51 | Ellipsis | that worries me even more :P |
| 08:03.12 | Elgrim | Orionshock |
| 08:03.22 | Elgrim | tooltip looks interesting |
| 08:03.27 | Elgrim | what's the mod? :P |
| 08:03.36 | Orionshock | if i could get specific spell information about everyone in the raid with out slowing down the whole ui i would :D |
| 08:03.42 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.44 | Ellipsis | that's CowTip |
| 08:03.53 | Orionshock | CowTipV2 |
| 08:04.01 | Elgrim | ok |
| 08:05.53 | ramoz | i think you should hide more |
| 08:06.23 | ramoz | i only have a small bar with pots, target, targetstargets and myself and pet frame |
| 08:06.27 | Elgrim | One thing id like to remove is those spell error messages |
| 08:06.31 | Orionshock | i use; PitBull-UF; Bartender3 w/ Cycircled, AutoBar, X-Perl RaidFrames, CowTip, Fubar, Omen, Assessment, Parrot, oRA2, ElkBuffBars, SimpleMiniMap, AutoBar, Hourglass2, Chronometer, ItemRack2 |
| 08:06.40 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: ErrorMonster |
| 08:07.20 | Orionshock | & infact i have a modified version of Error Monster that hides the UIErrorFrame alltogeahter and outputs everything to parrot |
| 08:08.04 | ramoz | whats Hourglass2? |
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| 08:09.21 | Orionshock | hourglass2 is a personally modified version of hourglass that has all the extra features that where requested to be put in but the author said no; it also has some additional grouping for cooldowns; available in the branches. |
| 08:10.16 | Orionshock | suffice it to say that until evl says i can in the forums I won't put it in the trunk.. |
| 08:10.33 | ramoz | aha |
| 08:13.04 | Elgrim | hum |
| 08:13.08 | Gngsk | does it show potions? |
| 08:13.17 | Orionshock | Gngsk: yes |
| 08:13.24 | Gngsk | what about profiles? |
| 08:13.36 | Orionshock | no |
| 08:13.39 | Gngsk | do it up! |
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| 08:13.48 | Gngsk | profiles is the one thing that'd make me switch |
| 08:14.00 | Orionshock | iirc hourglass by default had no profiles, but i think it has always defaulted to char |
| 08:14.10 | Elgrim | hum |
| 08:14.22 | Elgrim | Any suggestions for a cooldown mod? keeps track of my CDs |
| 08:14.23 | Orionshock | Gngsk: im a hack programer not good enough to do profiles |
| 08:14.51 | Orionshock | Elgrim: there is CooldownTimers2, and Hourglass |
| 08:15.06 | Orionshock | and if u want to get /fancy/ there is Hourglass2 in the branches on the WoWAceSVN |
| 08:15.12 | Elgrim | yea, i know of these. But they are both in bars right? |
| 08:15.23 | Orionshock | in bars? |
| 08:15.35 | Elgrim | yeah displaying bars |
| 08:15.44 | Orionshock | take a look at my UI shot again - hourglass is the addon on the left side of the hud |
| 08:15.46 | Elgrim | id like icons, just like buffs |
| 08:15.51 | Elgrim | ok sec |
| 08:15.56 | Orionshock | CDT2 and HG both look like that |
| 08:16.08 | Elgrim | ye |
| 08:16.15 | Elgrim | you got Enrage and Mangle on CD yes? |
| 08:16.27 | Orionshock | ya |
| 08:16.40 | Elgrim | hum |
| 08:16.45 | Elgrim | ye ill try it |
| 08:16.55 | Elgrim | id prefer them to show up just like buffs tho |
| 08:17.04 | Orionshock | HG2 has options for bar texture and size while CTD2 has just about everything |
| 08:17.27 | Orionshock | Elgrim: ?? i've had 1 other person ask me about that -- & I don't get it, it's not a very useful at a glance dispaly |
| 08:18.01 | Elgrim | Well too many bars create chaos.. |
| 08:18.21 | Elgrim | Id like small icons just above my castbar to represent my CDs |
| 08:18.37 | Orionshock | yep.. it's confermed |
| 08:18.45 | Orionshock | your one of those "Weirdos" |
| 08:18.52 | Elgrim | yea |
| 08:18.52 | Wobin | "You're" =) |
| 08:18.58 | Elgrim | you could have just asked |
| 08:19.04 | Elgrim | id tell you I was. |
| 08:19.08 | Elgrim | Im sick ok? |
| 08:19.47 | Elgrim | Sick and self-aware |
| 08:19.53 | Elgrim | :D |
| 08:21.01 | Orionshock | and tbh, all this crowd is missing is an Ace'ed version of GroupCalender / GEM |
| 08:21.05 | Orionshock | that would be perfect |
| 08:21.46 | Elgrim | Orionshock |
| 08:21.52 | Elgrim | where the heck do I put these bars now? |
| 08:21.56 | Elgrim | got CDT2.. |
| 08:22.01 | Orionshock | where i put them |
| 08:22.18 | Elgrim | dude |
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| 08:22.50 | Orionshock | left hand side under the target frame, just over the top portion of the HUD, horizontally aligned with party1 UnitFrame |
| 08:22.52 | Elgrim | I need symetry and logistics behind descisions like these... |
| 08:23.20 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:23.25 | Orionshock | symetry.... |
| 08:23.29 | Orionshock | logistics ... |
| 08:23.31 | Orionshock | LOLZ |
| 08:25.19 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: your UI isn't remotely symmetrical o.o |
| 08:25.33 | Orionshock | LINK |
| 08:25.39 | Orionshock | i want to make fun of him too :P |
| 08:25.42 | Ellipsis | I'm a symmetry freak tbh |
| 08:26.03 | Elgrim | good, because im looking for things to do. |
| 08:26.34 | Orionshock | yep... that's a DPS UI... |
| 08:26.40 | Orionshock | don't care bout nothing but yourself |
| 08:27.12 | Elgrim | My UI would be good for a healer? |
| 08:27.34 | norgs | vhaarr: good question |
| 08:27.38 | Elgrim | not that I have any experience... |
| 08:27.40 | Elgrim | :P |
| 08:28.03 | Ellipsis | well, just slap a big ol' Grid over the top half of the screen, and it's a heal UI |
| 08:28.17 | Elgrim | haha |
| 08:28.32 | norgs | vhaarr: fixed! |
| 08:28.44 | Kerafyrm | link? |
| 08:28.47 | vhaarr | norgs: lol, okay |
| 08:29.14 | Orionshock | Grid is such a horrifically BAD layout, don't know how anyone can use that /thing/ |
| 08:29.47 | Elgrim | hum, putbull uf is just fine for raid uf isnt it? |
| 08:29.51 | Elgrim | i think they are great. |
| 08:29.54 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: what do you mean? the default? |
| 08:30.11 | Orionshock | no - pitbull is also very bad at raid UF.... |
| 08:30.22 | Ellipsis | what are you basing this off of? |
| 08:30.26 | Orionshock | then again if u don't customize pitbull up the wazoo it's a bad UF in general |
| 08:30.27 | Ellipsis | I've never heard anyone hate *both* before |
| 08:30.41 | Elgrim | ehm |
| 08:30.45 | Elgrim | im a customizer :D |
| 08:30.46 | Kerafyrm | x-perl? |
| 08:31.04 | Orionshock | i've come to hate x-perl's raid ui the least |
| 08:31.04 | Elgrim | never liked x-perl, not enough symmetry |
| 08:31.15 | Elgrim | :P |
| 08:31.25 | Ellipsis | x-perl is like UI-in-a-box |
| 08:31.26 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 08:31.29 | Ellipsis | great if you just want to install and go |
| 08:31.35 | Elgrim | yea |
| 08:31.36 | Ellipsis | but not if you want things the way you want them |
| 08:31.55 | Orionshock | srsly what more do u need? |
| 08:31.58 | Ellipsis | um |
| 08:32.02 | Kerafyrm | you can't change the deeper intricacies in xperl, but xperl has quite a bit of options |
| 08:32.03 | Orionshock | color highlight on debuff |
| 08:32.04 | Orionshock | health |
| 08:32.06 | Ellipsis | I need a UF that works the way I want it to |
| 08:32.12 | Orionshock | click2cast support |
| 08:32.23 | Orionshock | movable groups |
| 08:32.41 | Orionshock | distinguishable health color |
| 08:32.45 | Ellipsis | I want little pink asterisks around the player's name in my group who's soulstoned |
| 08:32.48 | Ellipsis | can x-perl do that? no |
| 08:32.51 | Xelo | WTF! Iceblock is going to be trainable in a patch after 2.3 |
| 08:32.52 | Orionshock | like wtf is up with grid supporting threat in the UF?? |
| 08:33.12 | Elgrim | Ellipsis :D |
| 08:33.21 | Elgrim | How I get that? lol |
| 08:33.26 | Xelo | threat isn't something that belongs on unit frames, anyone who puts it there is dividing information too much across their screen |
| 08:33.27 | Ellipsis | dogtags |
| 08:33.53 | Orionshock | ... how big are raid again? 40... didn't know that 10 ppl was hard to keep tabs on for a SS.... >- |
| 08:34.18 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 08:34.21 | Xelo | Orion: would you rather have 25 threat bars spread across the screen whiel you're fighting gurtogg |
| 08:34.28 | Ellipsis | if you've never raided as a warlock, I can see how it might be confusing to you |
| 08:34.30 | Xelo | watching if people are more than 95% of second tank's threat |
| 08:34.40 | Xelo | Oh, something diff... |
| 08:34.48 | Orionshock | Orionshock: no the omen display is quite enough for me; and only the top 6? are of consern |
| 08:34.48 | Ellipsis | but trust me, knowing who and how many people are soulstoned at a glance is quite useful |
| 08:35.23 | Elgrim | Ellipsis, you are a warlock yes? |
| 08:35.25 | Ellipsis | yeap |
| 08:35.30 | Orionshock | Xelo: : no the omen display is quite enough for me; and only the top 6? are of consern |
| 08:35.32 | Elgrim | wtg |
| 08:35.33 | Xelo | I like my unit frames as informative as possible. Hell, I even have a huge amount of [~HasAura...] tags for saying what buffs are mossing |
| 08:36.02 | Elgrim | I want Ellipsis UI screendump |
| 08:36.03 | Elgrim | :D |
| 08:36.15 | Orionshock | well i guess that just goes to show that blizzard has made their UI way to customizable... |
| 08:36.34 | Kerafyrm | hey Orionshock, got a screenshot of yer UI? |
| 08:36.40 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102407_053132.jpg |
| 08:36.44 | Xelo | Elgrim, off the top of my head, [HasAura(SoulstoneRessurection)!Text(***):Pink] |
| 08:37.05 | Xelo | put a space in Soulstone Ressurection and spell it properly |
| 08:37.24 | Xelo | I can't stand UIs that knock out 1/3 of the screen |
| 08:37.58 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r668 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/01_12_Mulgore.lua: TourGuide - Mulgore play-testing tweaks |
| 08:38.20 | Orionshock | it's not a 3rd, it's a 6th |
| 08:39.06 | Xelo | I still barely see anything compared to my UI |
| 08:39.34 | Kerafyrm | Xelo: Link? |
| 08:39.36 | Orionshock | i also play on a 21" wide screen |
| 08:39.39 | Xelo | let me upload |
| 08:40.28 | Kerafyrm | I've got a 24"Wide 1920x1200 |
| 08:40.32 | Elgrim | Orionshock so do I |
| 08:40.46 | Elgrim | 1680*1050 |
| 08:41.00 | Kalroth | Syncmaster 245B here! |
| 08:41.12 | Xelo | http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110607223236df9.jpg |
| 08:41.15 | Elgrim | I have samsung too :D |
| 08:41.21 | Xelo | sort of old, changed my raid frames a bit |
| 08:41.25 | Elgrim | SyncMaster 215tw |
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| 08:41.56 | theoddone33 | nothing like a 12-9 run of 3v3 to make you realize you suck at playing a pally |
| 08:42.01 | Ellipsis | Elgrim: I won't be posting a screenshot of my final UI until FB2 has pet bar support |
| 08:42.10 | Ellipsis | it looks too weird mixing two action bar addons |
| 08:42.16 | Xelo | Ellipsis, make 9 macros |
| 08:42.18 | Ellipsis | I have plenty to work on in the meantime :) |
| 08:42.19 | Kalroth | mine is a little more simple: http://acdev.org/curr_ui.jpg |
| 08:42.24 | Xelo | all to use petability(1-9) |
| 08:42.27 | Ellipsis | Xelo: macro slots are full |
| 08:43.05 | Elgrim | dude |
| 08:43.07 | Elgrim | looks cool |
| 08:43.27 | Xelo | took me forever to do the raid frames |
| 08:43.32 | Xelo | so many AVs afk at stonehearth |
| 08:43.39 | Kerafyrm | Xelo: users yer raid/unit frames? |
| 08:43.48 | Xelo | Pitbull |
| 08:44.06 | Kerafyrm | Kalroth: my ui is kinda close to yers |
| 08:44.15 | Kerafyrm | but not really.. lol |
| 08:44.21 | Kalroth | It's nothing special :) |
| 08:44.28 | Kerafyrm | http://files.lafamiliaguild.com/WoWScrnShot_110707_192004.jpg |
| 08:44.54 | Elgrim | OH NO |
| 08:44.57 | Elgrim | You'r a GNOM |
| 08:44.58 | Xelo | one thing I need in my raid UI is some sense of symmetry |
| 08:45.02 | Kalroth | I run 1600x900 on my monitor in windowed mode, I like having access to irc, etc |
| 08:45.23 | Kalroth | Kerafyrm: Goon guild, yeah? :) |
| 08:45.24 | Xelo | Oh, and yes, I did kite anachronos down to the hyjal portal |
| 08:45.27 | Gngsk | Kerafyrm, way too many UFs for a rogue UI |
| 08:45.32 | Kerafyrm | Goon? |
| 08:45.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 08:45.43 | Kerafyrm | Gngsk: Officer + RL so |
| 08:45.45 | Gngsk | oh god, the minimap is infected! |
| 08:45.54 | Gngsk | herpes ftl :\ |
| 08:45.54 | Kalroth | la familia, but I might remember wrong |
| 08:45.55 | Kerafyrm | yeah.. the minimap is a sore spot with me |
| 08:47.49 | Bibi` | Kalroth : Goonies ! Goonies ! Goonies ! |
| 08:48.02 | Gngsk | http://home.comcast.net/~gngsk/ud.jpg |
| 08:48.59 | Kerafyrm | I like the minimalism, Gngsk |
| 08:49.07 | Gngsk | that's the idea |
| 08:49.10 | Gngsk | only what I need |
| 08:49.32 | Gngsk | cooldowns show up between the chatframes, underneath the unitframes |
| 08:52.57 | omega | Kerafyrm: what unit frames are those? |
| 08:53.08 | Kerafyrm | xperl |
| 08:55.08 | Elgrim | Still havent seen Ellipsis |
| 08:55.25 | Ellipsis | Elgrim, as I said above, no screenies for a while :P |
| 08:55.49 | Kerafyrm | Kalroth: WHat minimap mod is that? |
| 08:55.55 | Ellipsis | things are in a state of disarray at the moment, especially since I got this keyboard and haven't learned the new bindings yet :P |
| 08:56.04 | Kalroth | Simple I think |
| 08:56.21 | Kalroth | simpleMinimap |
| 08:56.48 | Kerafyrm | thanks |
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| 08:58.25 | Elgrim | ok |
| 08:59.03 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r54145 10Spyglass/ (Spyglass.toc core.lua menu.lua summary.lua): |
| 08:59.03 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 08:59.03 | CIA-7 | - Fixed standby handling. |
| 08:59.03 | CIA-7 | - Fixed panel ordering |
| 08:59.03 | CIA-7 | - Moved menu code to own file. |
| 08:59.56 | Bejitt | Orionshock: can you double-check that I actually fixed those errors? =\ |
| 09:00.08 | Bejitt | I still couldn't reproduce them |
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| 09:02.54 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:03.05 | Elgrim | hum |
| 09:03.06 | Orionshock | eh.. |
| 09:03.20 | Orionshock | sure give it about 30 mins i'll pull it down again and try |
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| 09:08.23 | Orionshock | Bejitt: nil checks their a bitch :D |
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| 09:13.13 | tester297487 | anyone there? |
| 09:15.59 | Orionshock | no |
| 09:18.36 | Bejitt | Orionshock: hm? |
| 09:18.40 | tester297487 | alright i just have a question |
| 09:18.48 | tester297487 | i was on the ptr for patch 2.3 earlier |
| 09:18.52 | Xelo | ok |
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| 09:19.22 | tester297487 | and my cartographer map notes dont work, even if i create new ones i cant read waht they say, it just shows the map icon symbol |
| 09:19.54 | Xelo | maybe because map note shasn't been made 2.3 compatible yet? or you weren't using a 2.3 version? |
| 09:20.16 | tester297487 | oh haha |
| 09:20.32 | tester297487 | well i downloaded the altest version of cartographer so i guess its just not compatible yet |
| 09:20.33 | Xelo | If a mod isn't tested and verified on a build, it's ToC will not be updated and it will be tagged as an Out of Date Addon by WoW |
| 09:21.18 | tester297487 | well cartographer worked halfway, it revealed the map and everything and allowed me to create map notes, but there was no text box displayed when i hovered my mouse over teh note |
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| 09:21.32 | tester297487 | it's probably just not compatible yet i guess |
| 09:21.57 | Elgrim | Anyone know if there is some way to Satra one frame over another in Pitbull UF? |
| 09:22.35 | Xelo | to what, elgrim? |
| 09:22.46 | Orionshock | I love rez glitches |
| 09:22.56 | Xelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.04 | Elgrim | I want Targets Target to overlap my target frame |
| 09:23.07 | Orionshock | die - click release, and it asks me to rez so i do and then it ports me |
| 09:23.09 | Elgrim | but instead its hidden behind |
| 09:24.34 | Xelo | grr, working with 3 other guildies to make a "guild bank crossover" mod is ftl |
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| 09:24.57 | Xelo | Our guild leader gave us the count today: 600 void crystals |
| 09:25.02 | tester297487 | xelo, are you familiar with the cartographer code? |
| 09:25.07 | Xelo | not really tester297487 |
| 09:25.11 | Orionshock | Xelo: why? |
| 09:25.20 | Xelo | Orionshock, testing using the PTR |
| 09:25.49 | tester297487 | i have a special mod i got with a guide, but when i try to enable development, all the map notes disappear so i can't see anything to edit |
| 09:25.51 | Orionshock | what is a guild bank crossover? |
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| 09:26.03 | Xelo | move everything from the guild bank char |
| 09:26.05 | Xelo | to a guild bank |
| 09:26.19 | Orionshock | ? you need a mod for that??? |
| 09:26.28 | Xelo | We have a lot of shit |
| 09:26.41 | Orionshock | ... |
| 09:26.46 | Orionshock | you need a mod for that?? |
| 09:26.54 | Xelo | we have four characters with amxed bank space |
| 09:27.08 | Elgrim | :D |
| 09:27.18 | Xelo | so it's a few hours work either way |
| 09:27.19 | Elgrim | Xelo |
| 09:27.26 | Elgrim | isnt guild banks comming in next patch? |
| 09:27.26 | Xelo | Elgrim. |
| 09:27.34 | Xelo | yes, coming tuesday. |
| 09:27.38 | Elgrim | :D |
| 09:27.41 | Orionshock | Xelo: um.. login - xfer crap from bank to bags... |
| 09:27.44 | Elgrim | id hold my bank mod then |
| 09:27.48 | Orionshock | hit gbank.. xfer from bags to bank.... |
| 09:27.49 | Orionshock | ? |
| 09:28.01 | Xelo | So right click some 700 times? |
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| 09:28.31 | Orionshock | there was a gbank mod on the forums let me see if i can dig it up again |
| 09:28.33 | Kerafyrm | <3 Xelo |
| 09:28.40 | Kerafyrm | My guild has 6 mules packed TIGHT! |
| 09:29.07 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9729.0 |
| 09:29.08 | Orionshock | there we go |
| 09:29.41 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | Xelo: you need a mod for something you'll ever only do once? :) |
| 09:30.09 | Xelo | Xinhuan, it'll take less time to write a simple mod than to do it manually |
| 09:30.21 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | not really |
| 09:30.30 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | if you have 300 items to move (3 tabs worth) |
| 09:30.46 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and moving each takes 5 seconds, that's 1500 seconds or 25 minutes |
| 09:30.50 | Xelo | we have the money put aside for all 6 tabs |
| 09:30.59 | mergitur | Is there any way my function can get BigWigs to tell it if I'm currently engaged in a boss fight? |
| 09:31.19 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | writing said addon involve looking up all the bag, bank and guildbank functions, writing a loop to iterate, etc |
| 09:31.57 | Xelo | Really just doing it brute force style |
| 09:32.18 | xerawx | or you could just start a thread on the ui and macro forum asking blizzard to add a move all items to guild bank button |
| 09:32.26 | Xelo | Use the first 96 bank items, then move to the gbank and move them in |
| 09:32.32 | xerawx | and if they don't someone else will write it for you :D |
| 09:32.36 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | they won't do it for the same reason - you'll only ever do it once. |
| 09:32.57 | CIA-7 | 03yleaf * r54146 10LoggerHead/LoggerHeadLocale-zhCN.lua: LoggerHead: update zhCN translation |
| 09:33.09 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | its one of those mods that you'll install, use, uninstall/delete :) |
| 09:33.10 | Xelo | xinhuan: most of a time writing a mod is to make it functional, user friendly, and essentially pretty. |
| 09:33.17 | omega | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: you need to add those 25 minutes up for every high end guild though |
| 09:33.19 | Xelo | This is a pure brute force mod that will produce a billion error messages |
| 09:33.25 | Xelo | and will lag your machine while it's running |
| 09:33.29 | omega | making it quite reasonable to make a button or addon for it :) |
| 09:33.31 | Xelo | but it will get th ejob done in about 5 minutes |
| 09:33.56 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | not really, you'll still end up spending another half hour to resort your 6 tabs worth of stuff into the correct tabs lol! |
| 09:34.24 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | just because everything is thrown into the gbank doesn't mean they will be in the right place/tab |
| 09:34.30 | Elgrim | Anyone got any idea how to Satra one frame over another with Pitbull? |
| 09:34.36 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | and it will generate a few billion gbank log entries in the process |
| 09:34.56 | Xelo | Xin, log entries on tuesday morning aren't the biggest worry when there's no withdrawl permissions yet |
| 09:35.21 | vhaarr | mergitur: no, but you can easily do that yourself with 3 lines of code and the blizzard api |
| 09:35.26 | Xelo | and our stuff is sorted across our mules atm, command line specifies which tab to put stuff in |
| 09:36.19 | Xelo | the biggest concern is that our guild bank account expires tuesday at about 9 PM |
| 09:36.37 | Xelo | so we don't want to have to worry about paying another month for it :P |
| 09:36.41 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:36.44 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | take everything out of it and put it on a temporary character on your account :) |
| 09:37.03 | Kerafyrm | you mean characterS right? lol |
| 09:37.10 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | yeah |
| 09:37.22 | Xelo | there's a reason there's multiple mules - that's a lot of stuff |
| 09:37.28 | Kerafyrm | heh |
| 09:37.50 | Xelo | best case scenario, someone is opening mail tuesday for hours on end |
| 09:37.51 | Ellipsis | I thought someone already wrote an addon for that... |
| 09:37.56 | Xelo | And mail would make it take even longer |
| 09:38.49 | Ellipsis | GuildBankMover on svn? |
| 09:39.25 | mergitur | vhaarr: thanks. Guess I was looking in the wrong place. Any chance you could give me a pointer on how to? |
| 09:39.31 | Bejitt | this is odd... i did a :HookScript, but it's almost like the original is called after my hook o.O |
| 09:39.48 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r54147 10BigWigs_NajAssist/ (BigWigs_NajAssist.lua BigWigs_NajAssist.toc): BigWigs_NajAssist: frFR Update |
| 09:40.00 | Ellipsis | Bejitt, if you're using acehook it will be |
| 09:40.22 | Bejitt | rahhh |
| 09:40.25 | Bejitt | it didnt say it would |
| 09:40.32 | Ellipsis | acehook plays nice |
| 09:40.39 | Ellipsis | it doesn't let you screw with other people's hooks |
| 09:40.44 | Ellipsis | for better or worse |
| 09:40.47 | Bejitt | why not call the original first :( |
| 09:41.04 | Bejitt | that's what :SecureHook does :/ |
| 09:41.19 | [Ammo] | Ellipsis: AceHook-3.0 has failsafe hooking |
| 09:41.51 | Ellipsis | woohoo |
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| 09:42.12 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r54148 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: frFR Update |
| 09:42.13 | mergitur | vhaarr: I figure I could use unitclassification(), but that would involve scanning all raid members' targets, wouldn't it? |
| 09:47.22 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: what is failsafe hooking? it either is or isn't right? |
| 09:47.48 | [Ammo] | it means the original will be called for you |
| 09:48.03 | [Ammo] | you just hook and do whatever you want in your function the original with the original parameters will be called |
| 09:48.20 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r54149 10Spyglass/ (buttons.lua core.lua): |
| 09:48.20 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 09:48.21 | CIA-7 | - Fixed modified clicks (dressing room, etc) when not in inspect range |
| 09:48.41 | [Ammo] | ofcourse there is still the option for the old Ace2 hooking but that's done with RawHook |
| 09:49.08 | [Ammo] | and all that in a tinier package than AceHook-2.1 :) |
| 09:49.20 | Elgrim2 | Is it possible to satra one frame over another in Pitbull? |
| 09:49.25 | [Ammo] | satra? |
| 09:49.31 | Ellipsis | strata? |
| 09:49.40 | Elgrim2 | I want my Targets target to show over my target frame. Overlap |
| 09:49.45 | Elgrim2 | but it hides behind |
| 09:50.14 | Ellipsis | I don't think there's any way to manually set that |
| 09:50.27 | Ellipsis | what are you trying to acheive? |
| 09:50.34 | Ellipsis | you might be able to imitate it another way |
| 09:50.58 | Elgrim2 | well I want my targets target frame inside my target.. I havent got much room.. |
| 09:50.59 | Elgrim2 | :P |
| 09:51.13 | Elgrim2 | and my target frame is very big so |
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| 09:52.15 | Elgrim2 | should be something deciding wich frame overlaps the other frame.. |
| 09:52.48 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.59 | Orionshock | assuming that frame 3 is your ToT frame |
| 09:53.07 | Ellipsis | that won't play nicely with frame recycling |
| 09:53.17 | Orionshock | nope it won't |
| 09:53.50 | Orionshock | didn't say it was the right answer, but it's an answer none-the-less |
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| 09:56.48 | Elgrim2 | tricky.. |
| 09:56.51 | Ellipsis | Elgrim, just out of curiosity - how have you keybound your spells? |
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| 09:58.23 | Elgrim2 | ive got alot of binds. and one bar that I swap out with binds |
| 09:58.23 | Xelo | Ellipsis, to be fair, framerecycling doesn't play fair with eepanels |
| 09:59.07 | Ellipsis | which has nothing to do with this question? o.O |
| 09:59.29 | Elgrim2 | ive got one bar with 12 binds. q, shift+q, e, shift+e.... and so on. for buttons (qerxcv) making it 12 slots |
| 09:59.52 | Elgrim2 | then I toggle that bar with shift+space for bar1, capslock for bar2, |
| 10:00.10 | Elgrim2 | so that gives me 24 slots |
| 10:00.18 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 10:00.28 | Elgrim2 | and then i got 1-6 bound to buffs/debuff spells, together with shift 1-6 |
| 10:00.40 | Elgrim2 | and then i got some other binds, like racials on the button left of 1 |
| 10:00.45 | Elgrim2 | trinkets on tab and shift+tab |
| 10:01.19 | Elgrim2 | i press shift+space I see 12 affliction offencive spells on qerxcv, shift+qerxcv |
| 10:01.22 | Xelo | Ellipsis, was still saying, frame recycling is a good concept but screws the mod up on a lot of ways that makes it hard to get EXACTLY what you want |
| 10:01.33 | Elgrim2 | and i press capslock and I get the same binds, but desto spells |
| 10:01.43 | Elgrim2 | and I press ctrl+space I get 12 slots for demo spells |
| 10:01.50 | Elgrim2 | so I dont see alot of bars |
| 10:02.09 | Elgrim2 | ctrl+capslock I get conjure stuff |
| 10:02.11 | Ellipsis | Xelo: I don't know that eepanel parenting hacks being broken fits the description "screwing the mod up" |
| 10:02.35 | Xelo | ellipsis, try parenting eepanels properly with pitbull cluster frames |
| 10:02.47 | Xelo | zone in and out of an instance a few times and watch them bounce |
| 10:02.54 | Ellipsis | I'd say it just makes one useless function more inconvenient to accomplish, which is not the worst thing in the world imo |
| 10:03.07 | Ellipsis | I know the problem Xelo |
| 10:03.16 | Ellipsis | I just don't see why people have to parent an eepanel to every frame in their UI |
| 10:03.17 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis, how u binds work? I got all my skills on 1-6 or qerxcv |
| 10:03.32 | Ellipsis | Elgrim2: well, I'm trying to rework mine atm |
| 10:03.44 | Elgrim2 | ok |
| 10:03.57 | Ellipsis | main stuff (dots) are 1-5, drains and instant casts are shift+1-5 |
| 10:03.57 | Elgrim2 | its very quick system i got.. |
| 10:04.02 | Xelo | Ellipsis, personally I want something to make my raid frames easier to see over the background, no matter what I'm looking at |
| 10:04.03 | Ellipsis | `/~ are dark pact and lifetap |
| 10:04.05 | Elgrim2 | and when u get used to it u just autoswap bars |
| 10:04.33 | Ellipsis | Xelo: well then make an eepanel that shows/hides based on whether you're in a raid? |
| 10:05.18 | Xelo | I can. And I'll cry and cry as it's constantly off by a few px |
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| 10:05.29 | Ellipsis | Xelo: uh..move it by a few px then? |
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| 10:06.00 | Xelo | anal about positioning ftw. You should know that no matter what alignment always looks off by human nature |
| 10:06.26 | Ellipsis | of course, I am one of those pixel-perfect people who can't stand things being off even the slightest bit |
| 10:06.38 | Ellipsis | which is why I enter my eepanel offsets manually |
| 10:07.07 | Xelo | same. And you ever go and shift one back and forth by 1 px? |
| 10:07.15 | Xelo | and both just look wrong |
| 10:07.17 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 10:07.23 | Ellipsis | ...no comment!!!! |
| 10:07.41 | Ellipsis | (I've spent days - literally - trying to decide which looked "less wrong") |
| 10:07.45 | Bejitt | haha |
| 10:07.55 | Bejitt | would that be the doing of scaling? |
| 10:08.04 | Ellipsis | it can be caused by a lot of things |
| 10:08.17 | Xelo | mainly scaling |
| 10:08.23 | Xelo | because that introduces floating points |
| 10:08.27 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 10:09.26 | Bejitt | hmmm to add quality borders or not >_> |
| 10:09.27 | Ellipsis | to what? |
| 10:09.40 | Xelo | to anything besides bank, yes. |
| 10:09.46 | Bejitt | inspect frame buttons |
| 10:09.50 | Bejitt | via Spyglass |
| 10:09.52 | Xelo | yes |
| 10:10.01 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 10:10.07 | Bejitt | i see Fizzle does it tho |
| 10:10.31 | Orionshock | skinner FTW; |
| 10:10.53 | Orionshock | a solution to those authors that like to "pretty" things of their own accord |
| 10:11.41 | Xelo | Question, since I haven't downloaded it yet -- does spyglass allow you to look at a person's stats based solely on summing up their equipment with their base stats (and in 2.3, talents)? |
| 10:11.54 | Bejitt | for now, just equipment |
| 10:11.58 | Xelo | k k |
| 10:12.08 | Xelo | Base + talents in 2.3 sometime? |
| 10:12.30 | Bejitt | it's basically an output for ItemBonusLib |
| 10:12.32 | Bejitt | mebbe |
| 10:12.50 | Bejitt | well, for now that's all it is |
| 10:13.10 | Bejitt | + inspection data persistance |
| 10:16.05 | Xelo | Bonus Summary frame doesn't update on gear change |
| 10:16.13 | Bejitt | errrr |
| 10:18.28 | Bejitt | bleh, maybe i should get my lvl 1 coding alt some gear with stats on it |
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| 10:20.05 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis |
| 10:20.19 | Elgrim2 | gl with binds :D you got a nice little log in priv |
| 10:21.26 | Elgrim2 | If you take a look you will notice these binds makes you able to have ur hand pretty still while playing. you dont have to move all over the keyboard |
| 10:21.41 | Elgrim2 | its all in qerxcv, and 123456 |
| 10:22.20 | Elgrim2 | I think I might have run into the spam filter actually :D |
| 10:22.22 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | did spyglass just duplicate what WoWEquip does? |
| 10:22.31 | Ellipsis | er, I didn't get a PM - you sure that nick is registered? :P |
| 10:22.41 | Elgrim2 | No its not |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r54150 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-7 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-7 | - revert to r53913 again (Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua) |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-7 | - @apal: please use unicode, please check your commits: only the lines you changed should be differ from previous revision, thanks |
| 10:22.43 | CIA-7 | - your r54137 commit killed many other translations - your r54141 commit did not correct this (check the diff!...a mess) |
| 10:22.46 | Elgrim2 | Im not a regular user here |
| 10:22.59 | Elgrim2 | im usually on quakenet. as im european |
| 10:23.09 | Ellipsis | well unregistered nicks can't send messages to people by default :P |
| 10:23.22 | Elgrim2 | I just saw that in my server window |
| 10:23.23 | Elgrim2 | hahaha |
| 10:23.46 | Elgrim2 | I spent alot of time thinking about my binds tho |
| 10:24.06 | Elgrim2 | as I play quite some pvp I wanted really quick bindings |
| 10:24.21 | Ellipsis | put it all in a pastey and give the link in the channel :) |
| 10:25.15 | Elgrim2 | Ill just screen it and upload |
| 10:25.19 | Elgrim2 | oh no |
| 10:25.21 | Elgrim2 | closed priv |
| 10:25.23 | Elgrim2 | god damn |
| 10:25.32 | Elgrim2 | making textfile... |
| 10:25.38 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 10:25.45 | Ellipsis | sorry, you don't have to if it's too much work |
| 10:25.54 | Ellipsis | I just like to take inspiration from other locks |
| 10:25.55 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: isn't WoWEquip dressing room + summary? |
| 10:26.05 | Xinhuan | no its a ingame ct-profiles |
| 10:26.07 | Bejitt | spyglass is inspected summary |
| 10:26.10 | Xinhuan | does a bit more than spyglass hehe |
| 10:26.20 | Xinhuan | but has spyglass capability too |
| 10:26.26 | Bejitt | ah |
| 10:26.27 | Xinhuan | maybe we can work on the base stats part together |
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| 10:29.09 | Ellipsis | is there anything similar to Expo that's a bit less glitchy and out of date? |
| 10:29.23 | Orionshock | what's Expo do? |
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| 10:32.25 | Bejitt | Xinhuan: what do you mean? |
| 10:32.34 | Bejitt | (sorry, distracted some) |
| 10:32.36 | Xelo | k, I dunno wtf spyglass is missing, but it says in my healing gear I have +357 int. Adding in SotF, that means 368 accounted for, I have +469, which means 101 int isn't being counted |
| 10:32.43 | Bejitt | sec Xin |
| 10:32.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 10:32.57 | Xinhuan | pms |
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| 10:33.48 | Orionshock | wow some people just ask for it |
| 10:33.50 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6243.msg156217#msg156217 |
| 10:34.14 | Xinhuan | xelo: probably your talents modify +healing? |
| 10:34.23 | Xelo | xin, no talents, not resto atm |
| 10:34.29 | Xelo | and this is int, not +healing |
| 10:34.35 | Xelo | oh shit, I know what it is |
| 10:34.36 | Xelo | HotW |
| 10:34.45 | Xelo | I always forget that gives int in caster |
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| 10:44.58 | Orionshock | in game chat channels - is it valid to call them IRC channels? |
| 10:45.05 | Ozguli | no lol |
| 10:45.11 | Kalroth | No |
| 10:45.21 | Kalroth | IRC = Internet Relay Chat |
| 10:45.32 | Orionshock | but used in context it would be understood none-the-less right? |
| 10:45.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:46.06 | Ozguli | IGC or something, for in game chat |
| 10:46.17 | Ellipsis | oh come on Blizzard, a two handed sword of spirit? |
| 10:46.18 | ckknight | they got a lot of stuff on that internet, eh? |
| 10:46.21 | Kalroth | Just call them what they are, chat channels |
| 10:46.25 | Arrowmaster | since a) most people dont know wtf IRC is and b) most people that do know what IRC is know what IRC stands for and know the major differences between IRC and the ingame chat channels |
| 10:46.47 | Ozguli | And finnish teenagers think that IRC is same as irc-gallery |
| 10:47.01 | Ellipsis | yeah but nobody cares about them |
| 10:47.15 | Ellipsis | besides, it's not like anyone can stop finnish people from being weird |
| 10:47.21 | Ozguli | I want to punch them for that if they come telling me they've been IRCing |
| 10:48.39 | Arrowmaster | a pic on one of my friends gallerys of different people from irc ended up getting a ton of traffic from some finnish website to one of the joke pics of himself |
| 10:48.53 | Arrowmaster | no clue why |
| 10:48.56 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis |
| 10:49.01 | Ellipsis | yo |
| 10:49.02 | Elgrim2 | i got a nice textfile for you here |
| 10:49.08 | Elgrim2 | maybe it can give some advice |
| 10:49.17 | Ellipsis | yay <3 |
| 10:49.28 | ckknight | it's a trap! |
| 10:49.31 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 10:49.37 | ckknight | UR MOM |
| 10:49.42 | Ellipsis | yeah, she is |
| 10:49.49 | Ellipsis | just think how my dad feels |
| 10:50.18 | ckknight | lol, teh self-burn |
| 10:50.41 | Ellipsis | ...no u |
| 10:51.05 | ckknight | O RLY? |
| 10:51.10 | Elgrim2 | :D |
| 10:51.11 | Ellipsis | ya rly |
| 10:51.11 | Elgrim2 | so |
| 10:51.13 | Elgrim2 | can I DCC? |
| 10:51.17 | Ellipsis | sure |
| 10:51.22 | Elgrim2 | or where do i upload .txt's |
| 10:51.25 | ckknight | UR MOM CAN DCC |
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| 10:51.30 | Ellipsis | ace.pastey.net |
| 10:51.31 | Elgrim2 | nope |
| 10:51.37 | Elgrim2 | she aint know what DCC is |
| 10:51.55 | Ellipsis | I'd be pretty screwed if my mom knew how to use DCC, or IRC at all for that matter |
| 10:52.01 | cryogen | cncfanatics: mew |
| 10:52.06 | Ellipsis | this is one of the few places on the interweb that I can still safely hide :'( |
| 10:52.45 | Elgrim2 | ok |
| 10:52.47 | ckknight | cryogen, rawr |
| 10:52.55 | Elgrim2 | the site didnt support <tabs> but |
| 10:52.58 | Elgrim2 | i hope u can read it |
| 10:53.01 | cryogen | ckknight: gasp |
| 10:53.10 | Elgrim2 | http://ace.pastey.net/76793 |
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| 10:53.19 | Elgrim2 | if its to blurry i just send you the textfile. |
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| 10:54.25 | Karl | how can i find out which additional libraries Threat-1.0 needs? |
| 10:54.43 | Ellipsis | Elgrim2: I can read it fine, thank you for taking the time to do all that <3 |
| 10:55.02 | Arrowmaster | karl: check the toc? or the embeds.xml? |
| 10:55.22 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis no problem |
| 10:55.28 | Diao | interesting bindings |
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| 10:55.51 | julith | there is no toc and they aren't listed in any of it's xml's |
| 10:56.39 | Arrowmaster | there is too a toc |
| 10:57.29 | Elgrim2 | If you arent used to toggling your main skill bar, you will end up throwing the wrong stuff for a day or two, sometimes :D |
| 10:57.38 | Elgrim2 | but it all grows in, gets automatic |
| 10:58.00 | Ellipsis | some of those make me cry |
| 10:58.07 | Elgrim2 | like? |
| 10:58.18 | Diao | toggling seems too slow for me |
| 10:58.19 | julith | arrow: hmm, i'll have a second look at it |
| 10:58.25 | Diao | extra button press for a crucial ability :O |
| 10:58.30 | Elgrim2 | toggling is not slow at all |
| 10:58.42 | Elgrim2 | its better then having to move ur hand to far for some abilities |
| 10:59.02 | Diao | depends on your hand size i guess |
| 10:59.14 | Diao | i can easily reach to 9 with index while keeping ring finger on w |
| 10:59.15 | Elgrim2 | I dont even notice I toggle, and in combat my toggles are between [CAPSLOCK] and [sSPACE] |
| 10:59.21 | Elgrim2 | with is really really easy |
| 10:59.28 | Diao | so i have stuff bound ` to 9 |
| 10:59.30 | Elgrim2 | i toggle those with no taught |
| 10:59.32 | Diao | and shift `-9 and ctrl `-9 |
| 10:59.46 | Elgrim2 | i could never have a bind on a button like 8 |
| 10:59.50 | Elgrim2 | would take too long :D |
| 10:59.56 | Diao | lol |
| 11:00.01 | Diao | i have kinda big hands :P |
| 11:00.07 | Elgrim2 | lol |
| 11:00.11 | Elgrim2 | HUGHE! |
| 11:00.20 | Elgrim2 | i STRETCH to reach 5 and 6 |
| 11:00.28 | Arrowmaster | julith: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/embeds.xml |
| 11:00.33 | Diao | ah |
| 11:00.49 | Diao | yeah i guess toggle works better for small hands ;P |
| 11:00.53 | Elgrim2 | and my pinky is always on shift |
| 11:00.54 | julith | arrow: thanks, i've only looked into the the external folder |
| 11:01.14 | Elgrim2 | tumb always on space |
| 11:05.46 | Elgrim2 | Im going to do some kickass SCT config now. :D |
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| 11:06.25 | Ellipsis | Elgrim2: do you have a hellfire binding? |
| 11:06.42 | Ellipsis | I see RoF on there but no hellfire o.O |
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| 11:07.37 | Ellipsis | also, your aff/dest split seems kinda clumsy, was there any particular reason you did it that way? |
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| 11:15.56 | Diao | lol |
| 11:16.00 | Diao | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=49507&stream=Youtube <- very funny |
| 11:20.54 | Elgrim2 | ah |
| 11:20.55 | Elgrim2 | yes |
| 11:21.03 | Elgrim2 | sV bar2 |
| 11:21.17 | Elgrim2 | V is rain of fire |
| 11:21.37 | Elgrim2 | the unbound slot is Soulfire |
| 11:22.00 | Elgrim2 | C searing pain, sC soulfire, V rain of fire, sV hellfire |
| 11:22.22 | Ellipsis | oh, ok |
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| 11:24.18 | Elgrim2 | And i got to tell you, toggling between capslock and shift+space. is nothing when uve goten used to it. I like dont even notice myself toggling |
| 11:24.48 | Elgrim2 | i feel like I have shadowbolt on E, i just go for E and somehow bar2 is toggled on :D |
| 11:24.56 | Elgrim2 | I have drain life on E too |
| 11:25.00 | Elgrim2 | hehe |
| 11:25.05 | Elgrim2 | really its automatic |
| 11:25.21 | winkiller | shift-space? |
| 11:25.28 | Elgrim2 | yep |
| 11:25.35 | winkiller | never tried that |
| 11:25.50 | winkiller | I just got sX and sC for sprint/evasion |
| 11:26.00 | Elgrim2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:27.07 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis yes it seems clumsy to start of. But I ensure you its not |
| 11:27.36 | Elgrim2 | its confusing. but 2 days and its automatic |
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| 11:28.36 | Ellipsis | I dunno, it just seems like it's not ideal |
| 11:28.57 | Ellipsis | for example, I think through my normal DoT rotations and variations I frequently use |
| 11:29.01 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r54151 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: set the flash display to all points of the UIParent -> 5 lines replaced by 1 |
| 11:29.12 | Ellipsis | and with your bindings I'd have to switch the bar page like 4 times in the process of applying my dots :P |
| 11:29.20 | Elgrim2 | ye? |
| 11:29.42 | Ellipsis | well...if it was organized differently, I'd only have to page once or twice |
| 11:30.01 | Ellipsis | just seems hard on the fingers :P |
| 11:30.06 | Elgrim2 | hehehe |
| 11:30.07 | Elgrim2 | yeah |
| 11:30.09 | Elgrim2 | i know |
| 11:30.10 | Elgrim2 | but |
| 11:30.16 | Elgrim2 | you just have to teach ur muscles |
| 11:30.21 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 11:30.22 | Elgrim2 | and then its all in the muscle memory |
| 11:30.25 | Elgrim2 | and you dont know what ur doing |
| 11:30.32 | Elgrim2 | you just go for E and think shadowbolt |
| 11:30.34 | Elgrim2 | and bar2 is there |
| 11:30.36 | Elgrim2 | promice |
| 11:31.59 | Elgrim2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:32.33 | Elgrim2 | R > X > sX > V for dps dot upset |
| 11:32.49 | Elgrim2 | and then CAPSLOCK X |
| 11:32.51 | Elgrim2 | for immolate |
| 11:32.54 | Elgrim2 | E shadowbolt |
| 11:32.56 | Elgrim2 | boom boom! |
| 11:33.31 | Elgrim2 | actually some sick thing while loading shadowbolt I always go shift+space |
| 11:33.33 | Elgrim2 | to bar1 |
| 11:33.43 | Elgrim2 | and if I wanna throw another shadowbolt |
| 11:33.48 | Elgrim2 | CAPSLOCK > E |
| 11:34.10 | Elgrim2 | i hold my finger on capslock while throwing shadowbolt |
| 11:34.17 | Elgrim2 | since I cant move while throwing anyway |
| 11:34.27 | Elgrim2 | so... its just muscle memory, i feel its all instant to me |
| 11:34.34 | Elgrim2 | and I never have to stop to throw spells |
| 11:34.54 | Elgrim2 | not like I have to reach for 8 or H or anything |
| 11:35.14 | Nefarion | discussing 'lock keybindings? |
| 11:35.20 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 11:35.41 | Elgrim2 | wich would actually have me to take my eyes of the screen to do something like that. or id push 7 instead of 8 too often |
| 11:35.49 | Elgrim2 | stuff like that |
| 11:36.33 | Elgrim2 | want to see a instane toggler |
| 11:36.36 | Elgrim2 | watch veex |
| 11:36.36 | Elgrim2 | w8 |
| 11:36.49 | Ellipsis | I don't know, I feel like I'm going to have to make a drastic change to my setup to fit everything on my keyboard |
| 11:36.58 | Ellipsis | but I'm scared because I've never made a drastic change before |
| 11:37.12 | Ellipsis | most of my bindings have evolved very slowly over time and are still quite similar to the default |
| 11:37.19 | Nefarion | i use t, r, f, g, c, v, x, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 11:37.37 | Elgrim2 | yep |
| 11:37.41 | Elgrim2 | I was like that too |
| 11:38.03 | Nefarion | i'm gonna change mine though soon |
| 11:38.07 | Elgrim2 | but I came to a point where I felt like rebuilding, make stuff more logic and to make it go quicker when im actually used to it |
| 11:38.12 | Elgrim2 | and this is what I came up with |
| 11:38.17 | Elgrim2 | have to toggle... and now its instant |
| 11:38.22 | Elgrim2 | too many skills as a warlock |
| 11:38.32 | Ellipsis | nod |
| 11:38.35 | Elgrim2 | You can always watch Veex |
| 11:38.41 | Elgrim2 | He learned playing with no mods |
| 11:38.48 | Elgrim2 | he toggle for all his skills |
| 11:38.55 | Elgrim2 | he only use 1 12 slotter |
| 11:39.00 | Elgrim2 | he fit trinkets and all in there |
| 11:39.01 | Elgrim2 | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=46220&mirror=1 |
| 11:39.03 | Elgrim2 | and he is good |
| 11:39.10 | Nefarion | the idea i have is... fears to f, drains to r, dots to 3,4, shadow casts to t, fire casts to g, mana control to c, health control to v, misc utility (pet spells, racial, etc) to x, pvp trink to 2, other curses to 5 |
| 11:39.12 | Elgrim2 | affliction warlock top arena |
| 11:39.28 | Ozguli | What's so cool of playing withoud mods? |
| 11:39.38 | Elgrim2 | Nothing |
| 11:39.40 | Nefarion | the fact that your ui is uglier than a dwarf |
| 11:39.41 | Elgrim2 | I use alot of mods |
| 11:39.41 | Elgrim2 | :D |
| 11:39.42 | Gngsk | can't use mods in tourneys? |
| 11:39.48 | Ozguli | apart from that :P |
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| 11:40.22 | Gngsk | practice how you play |
| 11:40.27 | Elgrim2 | well |
| 11:40.32 | Gngsk | would suck to play all season and do really well, get in the tourney and suck cuz you can't use mods |
| 11:40.39 | winkiller | hu? no mods? |
| 11:40.44 | Gngsk | no mods |
| 11:40.48 | winkiller | as in not even sensible keybindings? |
| 11:40.50 | evl_ | ~bgweekend |
| 11:40.57 | winkiller | brrr |
| 11:40.57 | evl_ | ~whatfuckingbgweekendisit |
| 11:40.59 | Elgrim2 | Ellipsis, watch Veex, its really good stream quality in the link I gave u |
| 11:41.01 | Gngsk | since when is there no keybindings inthe stock blizz UI? |
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| 11:41.04 | Nefarion | some people are for some strange reason against mods. apparently though the developers designed a completely open ui they get it in their heads that mods help to cheat (lol). but there's nothing wrong with them. |
| 11:41.13 | Ellipsis | hmkay Elgrim2 |
| 11:41.19 | winkiller | you can't keybind if you don't show all the freakin bars afaik |
| 11:41.28 | winkiller | or does it keep it when you hide right actionbar, etc |
| 11:41.48 | Ozguli | I have half of my bars hidden until I mouse-over them |
| 11:41.51 | Ellipsis | btw Elgrim2 - you seem to be fairly PvP oriented, do you do anything differently for PvE? or you just don't do it often enough to have a system? |
| 11:42.25 | Nefarion | wow that guy is pretty damned good |
| 11:42.29 | Nefarion | in that vid' |
| 11:42.44 | Elgrim2 | I do fine PvE with my binds. |
| 11:42.46 | Nefarion | don't see many good ua vids anymore >> |
| 11:43.07 | mergitur | Are there any tutorials on how to use SinkLib? |
| 11:43.17 | Nefarion | do they specifically disallow mods in the tourns? |
| 11:43.21 | Elgrim2 | Once ur used to something, its just automatic. I dont feel any obstracles throwing spells |
| 11:43.28 | Poul|Raider | http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5227/screenshot19tx7.png /flex |
| 11:43.36 | Nefarion | Elgrim2's right |
| 11:43.36 | winkiller | I find pve/pvp quite a bit different |
| 11:43.40 | Elgrim2 | and I dont missklick, since its spread on so few buttons |
| 11:43.46 | winkiller | but it's mostly because I play a rogue :P |
| 11:43.55 | winkiller | pve = 3 button and running |
| 11:44.00 | Elgrim2 | haha |
| 11:44.01 | winkiller | pvp = 10 buttons and running |
| 11:44.09 | Nefarion | i've never in my life misclicked a keybinding. when i was a clicker i misclicked about 2% of the time |
| 11:44.10 | Elgrim2 | Warlock = 10 bars |
| 11:44.11 | Elgrim2 | ok? :D |
| 11:44.25 | Elgrim2 | well |
| 11:44.28 | winkiller | 10 bars? fear, lolcoil, SB, drain life |
| 11:44.37 | winkiller | and some dots |
| 11:44.52 | winkiller | shift+T for felly :P |
| 11:44.57 | Elgrim2 | you'd be supriced how many different clicks u use as a warlock :D |
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| 11:45.24 | winkiller | maybe I haven't fully explored it then yet |
| 11:45.38 | Ellipsis | bleh, I'm horrible about misclicking |
| 11:45.42 | winkiller | but with ~7 buttons I fared better in arena than on the rogue I've played for 2 years |
| 11:45.42 | Elgrim2 | hehe |
| 11:45.50 | Ellipsis | I even screw up easy stuff like 3-5 or shift+2-3 |
| 11:45.51 | winkiller | (yes, I have a 70 lock too) |
| 11:45.57 | Arrowmaster | as you level you get more and more and more skills you almost never use but need to have on a bar somewhere for when you do need to use them |
| 11:46.09 | Elgrim2 | i only missklick when I try reaching a button too far from wasd. and still keep a few fingers on wasd you know |
| 11:46.14 | Elgrim2 | but aint got that problem any more |
| 11:46.14 | winkiller | I don't click |
| 11:46.26 | winkiller | Logitech G11 keyboard ftw |
| 11:46.33 | Ellipsis | G15 |
| 11:46.40 | Nefarion | howl of terror, fear, banish, seduce, spell lock, dev magic, life tap, drain mana, drain health, drain soul, dark pact, sacrifice, CoA, CoEx, Corruption, UA, siphon life, pvp trinket, racial ability, shadowburn, searing pain, healthstone, bandage, death coil, and more |
| 11:46.40 | Ellipsis | and my wrist hates me |
| 11:46.43 | Elgrim2 | I used to have skills on buttons like 8, and id missklick 9 and 7 |
| 11:46.43 | Elgrim2 | :D |
| 11:46.52 | Ozguli | you're telling me that lock is anything special? |
| 11:46.56 | Elgrim2 | yep |
| 11:47.00 | Elgrim2 | wanna argue? |
| 11:47.07 | Ellipsis | you skipped like 4 curses Nefarion |
| 11:47.15 | Ellipsis | not to mention fire spells |
| 11:47.21 | Nefarion | i know elli |
| 11:47.22 | Ozguli | yea |
| 11:47.23 | Nefarion | "and more" |
| 11:47.31 | Nefarion | my fingers are numb as fucking; typing hurts |
| 11:47.34 | Ozguli | someone he doesn't play with addons |
| 11:47.46 | Ozguli | cast bars etc, they're not blizz default |
| 11:47.49 | Nefarion | i'd *imagine* feral druids have more key clicks to handle than us |
| 11:47.55 | Nefarion | but i can't say for sure |
| 11:47.56 | Ozguli | raid targeting enemy players isn't possible by default |
| 11:47.56 | Elgrim | hum |
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| 11:48.03 | Orionshock | druid vs locks? |
| 11:48.05 | Orionshock | no locks have more |
| 11:48.12 | Ellipsis | druid isn't as bad as you'd think |
| 11:48.13 | Nefarion | feral druids even? |
| 11:48.19 | Nefarion | forms and abilities for all forms? |
| 11:48.21 | Ellipsis | even feral |
| 11:48.22 | Elgrim | tsss |
| 11:48.23 | winkiller | I don't have that many buttons |
| 11:48.24 | Nefarion | wow |
| 11:48.27 | Elgrim | they auto toggle in shape shift |
| 11:48.28 | Ellipsis | they get to use their forms as paging material |
| 11:48.29 | Elgrim | thats cheat |
| 11:48.29 | Ellipsis | what do we have? |
| 11:48.44 | Ellipsis | we get to add/remove like 2-3 spells based on spec |
| 11:48.49 | Ellipsis | that's about it |
| 11:49.06 | Elgrim | Ellipsis |
| 11:49.13 | winkiller | battlerez, innervate, mf |
| 11:49.20 | Lukian | <Nefarion> i'd *imagine* feral druids have more key clicks to handle than us <- spam shred, use mangle and finishing move every 5cp's ? |
| 11:49.27 | Elgrim | you got my screenies url still? my CPU shut down and it didnt store in my browser |
| 11:49.33 | Xelo | lukian, 4 CPs actually |
| 11:49.37 | winkiller | hehe |
| 11:49.43 | Xelo | also have to maintain faerie fire |
| 11:49.47 | Xelo | maintain a tanking bar |
| 11:49.48 | Diao | good feral druids* |
| 11:49.49 | winkiller | FF is on main bar |
| 11:49.50 | Ellipsis | http://i82.imagethrust.com/i/943588/wowscrnshot110807083859.jpg |
| 11:50.10 | Xelo | Also, even when we get to play a rogue, we still have to have UFs up for innervates and battle resses |
| 11:50.14 | Ellipsis | that's all I've got |
| 11:50.24 | Nefarion | what's the mod he's using that warns on resist? Hyapatia Lee |
| 11:50.26 | Nefarion | oops |
| 11:50.27 | Industrial | Ellipsis: so random :s |
| 11:50.32 | Nefarion | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=46220&mirror=1 |
| 11:50.35 | Ellipsis | wha Industrial? |
| 11:50.54 | Industrial | the unitframes |
| 11:51.01 | Diao | i'm still buffering :( |
| 11:51.01 | Industrial | why's yours there and target's over there |
| 11:51.07 | Ellipsis | don't look at me |
| 11:51.10 | Ellipsis | that's Elgrim's screenie |
| 11:51.16 | Ellipsis | he just wanted the URL again |
| 11:51.41 | Industrial | btw HI! |
| 11:51.44 | Ellipsis | plus it looks like he's swedish so he automatically fails |
| 11:51.47 | Ellipsis | o hi thar |
| 11:51.56 | Xelo | ewww, huge unit frames |
| 11:52.09 | Xelo | so much wasted space |
| 11:52.40 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: is that ur UI? |
| 11:52.44 | Ellipsis | no |
| 11:52.46 | Ellipsis | geez |
| 11:52.53 | Orionshock | who |
| 11:52.55 | Ellipsis | Elgrim |
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| 11:53.05 | Orionshock | who's ever it is needs to disable the fubar text |
| 11:53.13 | Elgrim | ? |
| 11:53.16 | Elgrim | :d |
| 11:53.18 | Elgrim | yes |
| 11:53.19 | Elgrim | plz |
| 11:53.24 | Elgrim | gimme something to do |
| 11:53.29 | Elgrim | What text? |
| 11:53.38 | Xelo | the fubar text |
| 11:53.39 | Ellipsis | all the plugins on the left side can have their text hidden |
| 11:53.46 | Elgrim | ah yes |
| 11:53.49 | Ellipsis | and you can use teh short text option on eeshards |
| 11:53.55 | Xelo | Also, clock should always be in a corner |
| 11:54.01 | Xelo | unwritten rule |
| 11:54.04 | Elgrim | aaah true! |
| 11:54.05 | Xelo | clock always goes on the edge |
| 11:54.05 | Diao | lol |
| 11:54.07 | Nefarion | why show them? do you config every 2 min?? |
| 11:54.19 | Elgrim | well I got the bar down there |
| 11:54.23 | Elgrim | Need some stuff on it you know |
| 11:54.41 | Xelo | you can make it narrow y'knoe |
| 11:54.49 | Xelo | and have the location on the left, and the clock on the right |
| 11:55.00 | Xelo | and do some cool stuff |
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| 11:55.58 | Xelo | only 'config' I have on Fubar is for BigWigs, but that's mostly there for the 'reset boss mods on ctrl-click' option |
| 11:56.28 | Xelo | I have niagara too, which means I can get rid of everything else :P |
| 11:56.51 | Orionshock | Elgrim: new texture -- try it, it's called LightStep |
| 11:56.59 | Orionshock | ... that default bar is so.... |
| 11:57.04 | Orionshock | ugly comes to mind |
| 11:57.38 | Orionshock | there are worse words that are more accurate but... ugly is nice and civil |
| 11:57.47 | Orionshock | :D |
| 11:58.51 | Elgrim | ah? |
| 11:59.05 | Elgrim | texture for my bar? |
| 11:59.08 | Elgrim | aha cycircled? |
| 11:59.15 | Diao | unitframes |
| 11:59.17 | Diao | i think he means |
| 11:59.42 | Elgrim | ah |
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| 11:59.47 | Orionshock | Bars |
| 11:59.51 | Elgrim | yea |
| 11:59.54 | Elgrim | LightStep? |
| 11:59.57 | Elgrim | ill try |
| 11:59.58 | Elgrim | sec |
| 12:00.00 | Orionshock | f cycircled |
| 12:00.24 | Elgrim | http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110807125637qi8.jpg |
| 12:00.25 | Elgrim | updated |
| 12:01.00 | Elgrim | My cyCircled skin is LifeStep:XLT |
| 12:01.42 | Stanzilla | do you really need the portrait on the player and pet frame? |
| 12:02.04 | Elgrim | I guess not :D |
| 12:02.23 | Elgrim | just my taste to have it there. Its wow you know.. supposed to be that way |
| 12:02.33 | Stanzilla | mhm ok |
| 12:02.36 | Stanzilla | matter of taste |
| 12:02.37 | Elgrim | :P |
| 12:02.45 | Orionshock | ... Elgrim go into pitbull and quartz and change it from wtf it is to LightStep |
| 12:02.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.56 | Ellipsis | Orionshock why? that texture is way better than litestep |
| 12:02.58 | Elgrim | ah |
| 12:02.59 | LaricWork | Elgrim. omg those unitframes arent big.. they are friggin huuuuge |
| 12:03.00 | Elgrim | i see |
| 12:03.12 | Elgrim | haha LaricWork :D |
| 12:03.15 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: it's hard on the eyes |
| 12:03.15 | Stanzilla | Orionshock: LiteStep? |
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| 12:03.25 | LaricWork | litestep is a nice texture |
| 12:03.28 | Elgrim | LiteStep ye I have that in my library of textures |
| 12:03.35 | Elgrim | hum |
| 12:03.35 | Stanzilla | LiteStep is the ugliest texture ever created! |
| 12:03.46 | Orionshock | L(.+)Step |
| 12:04.24 | Ellipsis | I dunno. I like big UFs and smooth textures, so I guess I'm just biased :P |
| 12:04.26 | Elgrim | hum |
| 12:04.37 | Elgrim | i didnt like LiteStep |
| 12:04.57 | Elgrim | and I generally dont like stuff that makes it look 3D, or material.. |
| 12:05.06 | Elgrim | but those Glamour textures are pretty cool |
| 12:05.10 | Orionshock | fine - just... wow that one was just ugly as sin - pick another one |
| 12:05.21 | Arrowmaster | ive always liked the original custom texture wowace stuff started using, i think it called otravi now |
| 12:05.36 | LaricWork | sin isnt always ugly though orion :) |
| 12:06.02 | Orionshock | in the end it is |
| 12:06.08 | Diao | lol |
| 12:06.12 | Diao | wow |
| 12:06.18 | Diao | i'm watching combat rogue 2v2 |
| 12:06.23 | Diao | it's so easy... |
| 12:06.47 | Elgrim | Orionshock :D |
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| 12:06.58 | Elgrim | yea im trying out textures as we speak |
| 12:07.57 | many | which %&/@§! addon does play those pitched voice samples? |
| 12:08.05 | Diao | pitched voice samples? |
| 12:08.19 | Orionshock | Fatality? |
| 12:08.35 | Ellipsis | someone's caught a bug |
| 12:08.41 | evl_ | :D |
| 12:08.49 | Orionshock | it's bug sack / bug grabber |
| 12:08.57 | many | Fatality. ah. thats what the sample seems to say. |
| 12:09.36 | many | ah. so what does fail on loading /me looks in da sack |
| 12:09.51 | SunTsu | Hm, OK, infinibar keeps bartender3 from hiding my blizzard UI |
| 12:10.31 | many | oh right. textspy. oughta disable it. |
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| 12:13.12 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:13.18 | Ellipsis | uh oh |
| 12:13.48 | Ellipsis | I must have done something wrong, because my UI memory usage went way down when I changed a bit of my code >_< |
| 12:14.13 | Arrowmaster | 10 hours lol |
| 12:14.25 | Diao | o_O |
| 12:14.28 | Diao | i have class in 4 |
| 12:14.29 | Diao | lol |
| 12:14.38 | Arrowmaster | i usually have to be up at 11:30am on tuesdays and thursdays for class |
| 12:14.45 | Ellipsis | I have...nothing ever |
| 12:14.46 | Arrowmaster | its 7:15am |
| 12:14.49 | Ellipsis | ahhh I love this |
| 12:15.07 | Orionshock | it's 5:15am here and i have work at 3:00pm |
| 12:15.34 | Arrowmaster | i ususally get 3-4 hours of sleep before class |
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| 12:15.54 | Arrowmaster | back in highschool it was usually 4-6 i think |
| 12:16.35 | Arrowmaster | now its like upto 10 hours of sleep on days i dont have class though |
| 12:17.06 | Arrowmaster | and eventhough i dont have class today like i normally would i do have something to do so i need to be heading to been really soon |
| 12:17.12 | Arrowmaster | *bed |
| 12:18.41 | Elgrim | Ah |
| 12:18.54 | Elgrim | I really liked the Glamour3 texture for the big unitframes |
| 12:19.31 | Orionshock | see choice is so nice |
| 12:19.45 | Orionshock | ... it's also a pain in the ass ... but hey that's life |
| 12:20.41 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 12:20.47 | Ellipsis | if life is a pain in the ass, you're doing it wrong |
| 12:20.59 | Orionshock | LMAO |
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| 12:21.19 | Elgrim | :) |
| 12:21.31 | Orionshock | night all |
| 12:22.50 | Elgrim | jesus |
| 12:23.03 | Elgrim | its middle of the day here. |
| 12:23.13 | Stanzilla | 1:23pm |
| 12:23.58 | Ellipsis | it's roughly the middle of my day |
| 12:24.01 | Ellipsis | time is irrelevant ;D |
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| 12:24.44 | Elgrim | yeah true |
| 12:27.39 | Elgrim | Ellipsis |
| 12:27.51 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 12:27.54 | Elgrim | So when you raid, any usefull adons you are using? |
| 12:28.11 | Ellipsis | eh, I don't have any particular raid-specific addons |
| 12:28.11 | Elgrim | You've seen my setup, anything you recommend? |
| 12:28.19 | Elgrim | any adons at all.. |
| 12:28.23 | Ellipsis | I think you could probably use a proper dot timer |
| 12:28.44 | Elgrim | ye? one that displays dots on all targets at the same time? |
| 12:29.00 | Elgrim | I only see target and focus dot timers |
| 12:29.09 | Ellipsis | er |
| 12:29.24 | Ellipsis | there aren't really any good ones that can do that |
| 12:29.34 | Elgrim | k |
| 12:29.37 | Ellipsis | just DoTimer, but it's not terribly efficient :P |
| 12:30.00 | Elgrim | I always have main boss on focus in a fight. and so when im supposed to dot multiple adds or something I have to click around to see the timers |
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| 12:31.33 | CIA-7 | 03anxarces * r54152 10ProfessionsBook/ (5 files): |
| 12:31.33 | CIA-7 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 12:31.33 | CIA-7 | -Added a key binding entry to open ProfessionsBook |
| 12:35.56 | Elgrim | I know alot of people use something called Necrosis |
| 12:36.00 | Elgrim | or Acolyte2 |
| 12:36.15 | Ellipsis | all-in-one lock mods make me sad |
| 12:36.28 | Elgrim | ah? they'r all in one stuff... |
| 12:36.34 | Elgrim | never bothered about them |
| 12:36.40 | Elgrim | good thing then. |
| 12:36.44 | Ellipsis | well, acolyte is just buttons for a bunch of random spells |
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| 12:37.21 | Ellipsis | necrosis and such are like...spheres that do shard management, random spell buttons, dot timing, says when you summon pets or soulstone, etc. |
| 12:37.25 | Ellipsis | everything you can think of |
| 12:37.46 | Elgrim | hehe |
| 12:37.50 | Ellipsis | I much prefer to just handle each feature with a separate addon |
| 12:38.13 | SunTsu | .o0( My warlock yesterday reached lvl16. Yay! ;) ) |
| 12:38.16 | Elgrim | yes |
| 12:38.21 | Elgrim | oh |
| 12:38.27 | Elgrim | SunTsu :D gz. |
| 12:38.36 | Elgrim | You will have tons of fun with warlock |
| 12:38.43 | evl_ | yeah |
| 12:38.46 | evl_ | and you will be UNIQUE |
| 12:39.03 | Ellipsis | yep, just like all the rest of us |
| 12:39.29 | charon | druids are more unique than everyone else! they all have their unique form skins! |
| 12:39.53 | SunTsu | Elgrim: Thanks. I really start enjoying it. I need something new, when leveling my rogue, mage and hunter go faster from wednesday on ;) |
| 12:40.27 | SunTsu | charon: My druid already is lvl70, so nothing new to expect till WotLK |
| 12:41.03 | ramoz | Sunwell! |
| 12:42.04 | SunTsu | ramoz: I didn't mean content, I meant playing style, skills, and such |
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| 12:42.46 | SunTsu | There is enough content ahead, my guild is just approaching The Eye and SSC. |
| 12:46.23 | Elgrim | Been wondering about name plate modding |
| 12:46.35 | Elgrim | Ive seen people have customized nameplates |
| 12:46.44 | SunTsu | Elgrim: Aloft |
| 12:46.47 | Elgrim | but never really came across any mods handling them |
| 12:46.50 | Elgrim | ah? |
| 12:46.54 | Elgrim | Is it aced? |
| 12:46.59 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 12:47.03 | SunTsu | Elgrim: Sure |
| 12:47.31 | Nefarion | aced? |
| 12:47.33 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 12:53.39 | Xinhuan | blargh? |
| 12:53.48 | [Ammo] | yeah blargh |
| 12:53.53 | [Ammo] | general disgust at 'aced' |
| 12:54.46 | Nefarion | lawl but itz lyk aced so itz betr |
| 12:55.04 | Nefarion | lyk moar affishint |
| 12:55.47 | Ellipsis | I aced your mom |
| 12:56.01 | Nefarion | haha elli |
| 12:56.02 | Gngsk | aced addons make breakfast for you |
| 12:56.08 | Nefarion | SunTsu, i was joking dammit >.> |
| 12:56.24 | Ellipsis | one time, a non-ace addon gave me cooties |
| 12:56.45 | Nefarion | a non ace addon raped me |
| 12:57.44 | Gngsk | cosmos crashed my car |
| 12:58.08 | Nefarion | auctioneer ate my babies |
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| 12:58.26 | JoshBorke | pitbull forgot all my settings |
| 12:58.47 | Gngsk | good thing you back up your SVs |
| 12:58.54 | Nefarion | goddamn rocks think they're so tough i just wanna *mumbles* lol |
| 13:01.32 | Kalroth | Any hardware wizards in here? I'm pondering getting an Intel system after running AMD for ages and I was looking at this motherboard: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0&model=1874&modelmenu=1 |
| 13:02.12 | Nefarion | blasphemy |
| 13:03.40 | Kalroth | :( |
| 13:05.23 | ramoz | ~stab Nefarion |
| 13:05.31 | purl | ACTION runs at Nefarion with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 13:05.31 | ramoz | cmon purl! |
| 13:05.33 | Elgrim | Aloft was very nice adon |
| 13:05.40 | Elgrim | thanks for recomendation |
| 13:06.23 | Grum | <Ellipsis> one time, a non-ace addon gave me cooties <-- noooob you forgot 'at bandcamp' |
| 13:07.03 | Ellipsis | I wasn't at band camp |
| 13:07.14 | Ellipsis | they don't let you play WoW at band camp :( |
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| 13:08.18 | SunTsu | Elgrim: There is another addon with presets for Addon, maybe you want to try them out |
| 13:12.19 | Grum | Ellipsis: booo |
| 13:15.15 | Nefarion | you go to band camp? |
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| 13:18.46 | Grum | doh, some flutes just need to be played |
| 13:19.02 | Ellipsis | ^well put |
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| 13:23.36 | Obelixprime | so, i'm guessing the proper way to do development right at the beginning is to make a change in a lua file then /reloadui |
| 13:24.22 | Grum | yup |
| 13:24.35 | Obelixprime | excellent |
| 13:24.39 | Grum | you can cut on the reloading time by using ACP and turning of most of your addons that you dont really need |
| 13:24.55 | Grum | also running wow windowed will help you with easy alt-tabbing |
| 13:25.32 | Grum | also using omnibus (ingame notepad) is useful when youget a bit more experienced with lua to be able to do ingame editing (you can put in in lua-mode and you can basicly code your addon ingame) |
| 13:25.59 | Grum | but please dont forget. omnibus has no undo :D (i fecked up with that a couple of times) |
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| 13:28.11 | Nefarion | -p[=e' |
| 13:28.13 | Nefarion | Dxc |
| 13:28.33 | Nefarion | sorry my cat jumped up ont he desk |
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| 13:29.15 | Ellipsis | aw, he likes us! |
| 13:29.24 | Grum | pics! |
| 13:29.39 | Nefarion | yeah he's lying on the end of the keyboard and chasing the cursor |
| 13:30.00 | Nefarion | no camera =X |
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| 13:34.57 | Nefarion | nyhm strikes again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciuYTeu4Qc |
| 13:35.57 | Obelixprime | a question about item ids |
| 13:36.05 | Obelixprime | how would i link an item my server hasn't seen yet |
| 13:36.16 | Obelixprime | with a GetItemInfo call |
| 13:36.24 | Nefarion | you dont |
| 13:36.26 | Obelixprime | would it have to hook it with some atlassloot function or something |
| 13:37.30 | Obelixprime | oooh |
| 13:37.32 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 13:37.35 | Nefarion | you can't link an item your server hasn't seen yet |
| 13:37.41 | Iceroth | oh btw did they change something with that? i tried to query server for S3 honor gear, server didn't know it but i didn't get dc either |
| 13:37.51 | Nefarion | yeah |
| 13:37.54 | Nefarion | no more dcs |
| 13:37.58 | Obelixprime | heh |
| 13:37.58 | Xinhuan | yah you don't get d/c for invalid links anymore |
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| 13:38.01 | Nefarion | but still doesn't return info |
| 13:38.14 | Xinhuan | but if yu try to query more than 2 or 3 items in a row, you will get d/ced for spam/datamining |
| 13:38.15 | Obelixprime | well, right clicking on illidan gear make it linkable |
| 13:38.37 | JoshBorke | i think it's changing back for 2.3 |
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| 13:38.42 | Nefarion | and? |
| 13:38.47 | Iceroth | was weird though, i could dig up feral vindicator's honor stuff but not moonkin |
| 13:39.09 | Obelixprime | so, basically, if atlasloot has it linkable, GetItemInfo should return something? |
| 13:39.31 | Nefarion | yeah |
| 13:39.44 | Nefarion | GetItemInfo goes out of the local cache |
| 13:39.56 | Nefarion | if you can't like it do: GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(itemID) |
| 13:40.02 | Nefarion | or whatever the hell the api is |
| 13:40.07 | Nefarion | link* |
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| 13:43.11 | Iceroth | sigh.. so they revered the hypothermia change -.- |
| 13:43.14 | Shirik | real quick, can anyone give me an estimate on the Lurker fight's length? |
| 13:43.16 | Iceroth | yey for cloth tanks |
| 13:43.25 | Obelixprime | less than 10 minutes? |
| 13:43.34 | Shirik | that short? |
| 13:43.40 | Obelixprime | yeah |
| 13:43.43 | Iceroth | something like that yeah, around 3 dives or so? |
| 13:43.44 | Shirik | I know it wasn't that short when I ran it |
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| 13:44.26 | Iceroth | revered = reverted |
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| 13:45.23 | Xinhuan | lurker about 5 minutes at most probably |
| 13:45.43 | Xinhuan | 25% per dive/phase is average |
| 13:45.59 | Nefarion | so what exactly happened to tseric? |
| 13:46.00 | Xinhuan | most guilds will go through 3 dives or 4 if you're slow on dps |
| 13:46.10 | Nefarion | did he piss of kalgan? lol |
| 13:46.19 | Obelixprime | Mage: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch |
| 13:46.49 | Xinhuan | Obelixprime: bets that they will revert that change like hypothermia! |
| 13:47.47 | Nefarion | yeah ice block is going to be trainable. whoop dee doo; |
| 13:48.23 | Nefarion | imo make our 5 point talent whose coeff is based off the idea that *everyone gets it anyway* trainable |
| 13:48.35 | Nefarion | gets the talent.. |
| 13:48.52 | Nefarion | that came out all wrong.... instant corr trainable plz. |
| 13:48.54 | Srosh | Haven't they changed that in the recent patch, Nefarion? |
| 13:49.07 | Nefarion | um they did? lol |
| 13:49.17 | Nefarion | no Srosh |
| 13:49.48 | Srosh | Or well, are you talking about imp. frostbolt? |
| 13:50.09 | Nefarion | no the warlock spell |
| 13:50.24 | Srosh | Which one? |
| 13:50.35 | Nefarion | instant corruption. it requires 5 points to make it instant, but has a coeff that reflects an instant spell because kalgan says *every warlock gets it anyway* |
| 13:50.47 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 13:50.52 | Obelixprime | some of the mechanics are so broken |
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| 13:50.54 | Srosh | Isn't it 1.5s untalented? |
| 13:50.58 | Nefarion | no, 2 |
| 13:51.00 | ramoz | yes |
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| 13:51.08 | Nefarion | wait.. |
| 13:51.16 | Nefarion | i've never had it untalented >> lol |
| 13:51.32 | Obelixprime | see you guys |
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| 13:51.38 | Ellipsis | yeah, nobody actually knows the cast time on corruption |
| 13:51.40 | Nefarion | no it's 2 sec untalented |
| 13:51.44 | Nefarion | but has an instant coeff |
| 13:51.53 | Nefarion | and 5 points--that's a lot |
| 13:51.55 | Srosh | Ah, ok. |
| 13:52.08 | Srosh | lua> 2/3.5 |
| 13:52.08 | cladbot | Srosh: 0.57142857142857 |
| 13:52.20 | Srosh | Well, ok, 43% to 57%. |
| 13:52.38 | Nefarion | and everyone who will bitch we have like 20 instant cast dots, we don't. we have ONE instant cast non-talented dot, and it's a curse (so we can't use it with other curses) |
| 13:52.39 | Ellipsis | especially considering the other alternative at that tier is actually moderately useful |
| 13:52.43 | Ellipsis | at least for undergeared locks |
| 13:55.07 | Srosh | Though talented you can get up to 3 instant cast DoTs plus one more with 1.5s cast. Not too shabby. |
| 13:55.30 | Nefarion | if we go aff |
| 13:55.55 | Nefarion | and those are dispellable damage that is done over time |
| 13:56.21 | Nefarion | oh btw we have immolate if you count casted dots |
| 13:56.21 | alext | someone brought up trainable instant corruption eh? |
| 13:56.39 | Nefarion | warlocks have been begging for it for a while alext |
| 13:56.45 | alext | yah i know i am one of them |
| 13:56.46 | Srosh | Not all can dispel and you got a dispel protection DoT. |
| 13:57.08 | Nefarion | yes, a dispell protection dot that has a cast |
| 13:57.19 | ramoz | if we got instant corruption i could get use of 4/5 T5 and the stupid BT trinket |
| 13:57.20 | Nefarion | affliction = mobility. UA = stationary casting with pushback. |
| 13:57.35 | alext | yah I hate using 2sec corruption as shadow destro |
| 13:58.29 | ramoz | pointless, a corruption for me does 2-2.5k while i can have a 5k shadowbolt crit |
| 13:59.06 | alext | yah i don't cast it much at all unless its a really mobile fight |
| 13:59.09 | alext | just immolate + sb spam |
| 13:59.15 | ramoz | yas me too |
| 13:59.37 | dreamss | heh |
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| 13:59.46 | dreamss | locks dont really need instacast cor |
| 13:59.57 | ramoz | i tried to keep it up on archimonde, but the damn range |
| 14:00.06 | ramoz | dreamss: we dont, we need more coeff on sbolt! |
| 14:00.12 | dreamss | nope |
| 14:00.17 | dreamss | locks are prefect |
| 14:00.29 | ramoz | BIGGER CRITS PLX |
| 14:00.35 | Srosh | Lol, your sbolts can already crit for 8k+ in a raid environment. |
| 14:00.46 | Ellipsis | yeah sbolt doesn't scale well enough |
| 14:00.53 | Ellipsis | /rolleyes |
| 14:02.12 | ramoz | :P |
| 14:02.52 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r54153 10BunchOfBars_SameTarget/: BunchOfBars_SameTarget: initial commit |
| 14:03.24 | Nefarion | <3 nyhm: "Just too OP will be re-recorded very soon" |
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| 14:08.34 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r54154 10BunchOfBars_SameTarget/ (BunchOfBars_SameTarget.toc SameTarget.lua): |
| 14:08.34 | CIA-7 | BunchOfBars_SameTarget: |
| 14:08.34 | CIA-7 | - adding files |
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| 14:17.44 | CIA-7 | 03Firik * r54155 10BunchOfBars/ (Tooltip/Tooltip.lua VoiceIcon/VoiceIcon.lua): |
| 14:17.44 | CIA-7 | BunchOfBars: |
| 14:17.44 | CIA-7 | - some minor fixes/changes |
| 14:21.08 | Elgrim | Ellipsis, how's your binds doing? :P |
| 14:22.02 | Ellipsis | very frustrated :P |
| 14:22.17 | Ellipsis | there just aren't enough keys on this damn keyboard |
| 14:23.01 | Nimbal | Get yourself a USB hub and plug some more keyboards into it |
| 14:24.14 | Ellipsis | I have actually tried the "both hands on the keyboard" thing |
| 14:24.26 | Nefarion | bad idea |
| 14:24.32 | Nefarion | mouse turning >>>>>>> keyboard turning |
| 14:24.36 | Ellipsis | it gave me access to allt he spells I needed, but movement becomes so clumsy it's useless in most situations |
| 14:25.02 | Nefarion | Elli, get creative. bound spells to your mouse. |
| 14:25.13 | Ellipsis | I have a cheap 3-button mouse right now |
| 14:25.18 | Ellipsis | and I've already bound spells to the wheel |
| 14:25.20 | Ellipsis | so...yeah |
| 14:25.35 | Nefarion | yeah my good mouse is screwy atm. i feel your pain. |
| 14:27.22 | CIA-7 | 03dfscott * r54156 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (4 files): |
| 14:27.22 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 14:27.22 | CIA-7 | - Basic minimap button support (still buggy and needs icon) |
| 14:27.27 | Nimbal | Are you using WASD to move? |
| 14:27.31 | |Kev| | you should be able to bind somewher around 100 spells within easy left-hand reach if you use all the modifiers |
| 14:27.32 | Ellipsis | yeah |
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| 14:28.03 | Nefarion | i use WS to move, and the mouse to turn |
| 14:28.12 | Nimbal | Try somewhere else. I'm using SYXC and thinking about moving to TFGH or something. You have way more keys in the immediate vicinity. |
| 14:28.15 | Nefarion | but i keep turn and strafe bound for mount travel |
| 14:28.42 | Ellipsis | having a tiny hand, I can't really go anywhere while keeping ctrl-* reachable |
| 14:28.51 | Ellipsis | I tried esdf for a while, too much of a stretch |
| 14:29.12 | Nefarion | i have the split-wind keyboard from microsoft. much easier to setup keybindings. ^^ |
| 14:29.17 | Nimbal | CTRL to access the upper left action bar? |
| 14:29.29 | Ellipsis | I use ctrl for my pet bindings, yeah |
| 14:29.30 | Nefarion | you can pick up an old one cheap. they're comfortable and it splits the keyboard. |
| 14:30.01 | Ellipsis | I can't use split keyboards |
| 14:30.09 | Ellipsis | I type the keys in the middle with the "wrong" hands |
| 14:30.18 | Ellipsis | so my typing is screwed on those >_< |
| 14:30.48 | Nimbal | If you move to SYXC, you can set it up so Q-P are for the lower left bar and 1-0 are for your pet. AND you should still be able to reach CTRL + SHiFT for conditional macros |
| 14:31.24 | Ellipsis | I can't reach 1-0 from SZXC without picking up my hand and moving it |
| 14:31.36 | JoshBorke | she has very small hands ;-) |
| 14:31.38 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 14:32.04 | Nefarion | hmm |
| 14:33.58 | Nimbal | I see. Well. Maybe Blizzard will implement voice commands some day. ;-) |
| 14:34.05 | Fritti | buy a nostromo n52! ;-) |
| 14:34.43 | Fritti | takes some time to get used to moving with the d-pad but with 3 input states there's a lot of buttons to be had |
| 14:34.45 | Ellipsis | I wish they made like...mini-keyboards |
| 14:34.54 | Ellipsis | for little kids and such |
| 14:34.55 | Ellipsis | maybe they do |
| 14:34.56 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 14:34.57 | Fritti | http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=157024 |
| 14:35.10 | Nefarion | *shudder* |
| 14:35.39 | Nefarion | i can't see how anyone uses that |
| 14:35.47 | Fritti | it rules :) |
| 14:35.55 | Nefarion | you use it? |
| 14:35.57 | Fritti | yes |
| 14:36.05 | Nefarion | what class and how well do you pvp? |
| 14:36.19 | Fritti | protadin, no pvp |
| 14:36.28 | Nefarion | pvp is a different story |
| 14:36.30 | Nimbal | Wait. This little gamepad-console-thingy there on the side is for movement? Yuck. |
| 14:36.30 | Fritti | sure |
| 14:36.33 | kenlyric | all you got to do is get used to it. |
| 14:36.46 | Fritti | Nimbal: actually it's possible to use it for movement but you don't have to |
| 14:36.50 | Fritti | you can also use it for shift-states |
| 14:36.54 | kenlyric | and then get completely boned when you don't have it. |
| 14:37.03 | Fritti | and use the 'wasd' like layout on top to move |
| 14:37.08 | Fritti | kenlyric: yes, that's a downside :) |
| 14:37.40 | Fritti | ah well to each his own. Took me about a week to get used to it but now it's way better than my keyboard control ever was |
| 14:37.41 | Nimbal | Ah, then it's something different. But they should really have added another row of buttons above the W. |
| 14:38.22 | kenlyric | I found out I do wasd wrong. |
| 14:38.43 | kenlyric | I do asdf instead. which is why the ctrl key isn't easy for me to reach. |
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| 14:38.57 | Fritti | there's also the wolfclaw afaik |
| 14:39.25 | kenlyric | even shift requires my hand to move, because my pinky is already on the a |
| 14:39.30 | Fritti | like this: http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/23/shooters-delight-wolf-claw-ii-keyboard/ |
| 14:39.41 | Fritti | it's possible to buy that without the keyboard part |
| 14:39.54 | Fritti | but the wolf claw isn't as reprogrammable as the n52 apparently |
| 14:40.06 | Tornhoof | you're hand a bit small kenlyric? |
| 14:40.50 | kenlyric | Tornhoof: I'm fine if my middle finger operates w/s which is proper wasd form. |
| 14:41.14 | kenlyric | dunno if i have tiny hand. maybe stubby fingers. |
| 14:41.22 | Tornhoof | ah i see |
| 14:41.34 | Ellipsis | kenlyric is like my evil twin |
| 14:41.40 | Nimbal | I'd have bought a G15 a long time ago if my desk would be a bit broader. |
| 14:41.42 | kenlyric | i'm the good one. |
| 14:41.49 | Ellipsis | oh...crap |
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| 14:43.00 | kenlyric | I found this out because I told someone I use B in combat and they couldn't figure out how I could reach it. |
| 14:43.53 | kenlyric | I'm still trying to convert. It's slow going. |
| 14:44.09 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: when I made that switch, I taped my pinky and ring fingers together while I gamed |
| 14:44.15 | Ellipsis | took me about one night with that :P |
| 14:44.26 | kenlyric | well, I want the pinky free or I don't gain anything. |
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| 14:44.38 | Ellipsis | well yeah, once you learn it |
| 14:44.50 | Ellipsis | but that was the ezmode way to make myself learn |
| 14:45.14 | kenlyric | I just hope it doesn't make me forget how to type. |
| 14:45.43 | Ellipsis | you just have to remember to shift your hand back and forth between movement and typing |
| 14:46.12 | Ellipsis | which is more of a hassle in WoW than any other game, sigh |
| 14:46.17 | kenlyric | damn, imagine if shift and caps lock were switched. That would be perfect. |
| 14:46.32 | ramoz | why do you need so many keys? |
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| 14:47.07 | ramoz | got 1-5, s1-s5, qedfghxv+shift |
| 14:47.21 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 14:47.24 | kenlyric | I don't have shift. |
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| 14:47.47 | ramoz | oh right |
| 14:47.52 | ramoz | but still |
| 14:48.01 | ramoz | that's like 13 keys |
| 14:48.09 | ramoz | and you could prolly use 6-7 |
| 14:48.28 | kenlyric | I can always use more keys :) |
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| 14:49.14 | kenlyric | for a long time I did with 1-6 and v :) |
| 14:49.31 | ramoz | what class? |
| 14:49.35 | ramoz | warlock or shaman |
| 14:49.59 | kenlyric | primarily priest |
| 14:51.02 | kenlyric | it was frequently painful, having to click on pots, healthstones... inner focus :/ |
| 14:51.13 | Nimbal | someTable["nestedTable.Key"] is not the same as someTable.nestedTable.Key, is it? |
| 14:51.31 | Nefarion | no |
| 14:51.37 | Nimbal | Damn |
| 14:51.38 | kenlyric | and V has been mount since I could do it. |
| 14:51.49 | Nefarion | that's accessing a key with the literal name of "nesterTable.Key" |
| 14:52.18 | Nefarion | someTable["nestedTable"]["key"] is what you want |
| 14:52.22 | Nimbal | Would have been awfully convenient if it was. Wishful thinking. |
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| 14:52.41 | kenlyric | now I do qertygbvcxz, but am dropping y because it's too far, I hit t too often. |
| 14:52.56 | Nimbal | I know. That just means I have to split the string I get by the dot. |
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| 14:53.47 | Elgrim | More bindings talk? :D |
| 14:54.06 | ramoz | also |
| 14:54.08 | ramoz | cant use R |
| 14:54.10 | ramoz | its for reply |
| 14:54.25 | ramoz | i got mad when i lost shift+r |
| 14:54.27 | Nefarion | how is it being used? |
| 14:54.41 | ramoz | for keybindings |
| 14:54.48 | Nefarion | because you may run into the problem that the key does indeed contain a dot (probably unlikely) |
| 14:54.49 | kenlyric | i think i just use /r |
| 14:55.00 | Elgrim | ehm |
| 14:55.00 | kenlyric | i dunno, never used r for reply. |
| 14:55.01 | Elgrim | guys |
| 14:55.10 | Industrial | < kenlyric> damn, imagine if shift and caps lock were switched. That would be perfect. |
| 14:55.14 | Industrial | you can do that on every OS |
| 14:55.16 | Elgrim | enter is chat, the long key above enter called backspace is reply |
| 14:55.18 | Elgrim | .end |
| 14:55.22 | Industrial | kenlyric: I have my caps as ctrl |
| 14:55.34 | Industrial | so I can use ctrl shift and alt for actionbars |
| 14:55.39 | Nimbal | Nefarion, It's for Buffalo2 and no, they won't contain dots |
| 14:56.00 | kenlyric | Industrial: I award you one <hero> tag. |
| 14:56.29 | Elgrim | Nimbal did you code Buffalo? |
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| 14:57.21 | Nimbal | Elgrim, depends on whether Buffalo did something bad to you. *sneaks to exit* |
| 14:57.56 | Elgrim | hehehe |
| 14:58.00 | Elgrim | no! I love it :D |
| 14:58.21 | Nimbal | Oh, good. Then I take full responsibility. ;-) |
| 14:58.22 | Elgrim | Still use Buffalo 1 I think tho :D |
| 14:58.44 | Elgrim | great mod! |
| 14:58.48 | Nimbal | Stick to it if you don't need anything from Buffalo2. |
| 14:58.55 | Nimbal | Thanks :-) |
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| 15:06.01 | kenlyric | damn, none of these work in vista. |
| 15:06.18 | kenlyric | nope, I'm just dumb. |
| 15:06.36 | Ellipsis | no comment |
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| 15:06.52 | kenlyric | silence, evil twin! |
| 15:06.58 | SunTsu | .o0( I should get rid of caps at all. One more ctrl-key - not too bad ) |
| 15:07.26 | kenlyric | i'm stoked. |
| 15:07.40 | kenlyric | nuts to relearning asdf |
| 15:07.43 | Elgrim | kenlyric |
| 15:07.48 | Elgrim | what's not working in vista? |
| 15:07.58 | kenlyric | it is. Just had to run it as admin. |
| 15:08.03 | Ellipsis | I'd totally swap caps and alt if it wouldn't make me screw up alt-tab, alt-f4, etc. :( |
| 15:08.04 | Elgrim | yea |
| 15:08.31 | Elgrim | ehm |
| 15:08.40 | Elgrim | I dont know why they have to make space so big? |
| 15:08.48 | Elgrim | id like more keys to push with my tumb |
| 15:08.48 | Elgrim | :D |
| 15:09.08 | Ellipsis | yeah that annoys me...my thumb has the widest range of motion and yet the spacebar covers all of it :( |
| 15:09.16 | kenlyric | I do alt with my thumb, which I guess is also strange. |
| 15:09.18 | Elgrim | yep |
| 15:09.30 | Ellipsis | I do alt with my thumb but it requires me to move my hand a bit |
| 15:09.34 | Ellipsis | so I don't use it in-game |
| 15:09.36 | kenlyric | alt is easiest of the three for me to hit (or at least it was) |
| 15:09.36 | Industrial | kenlyric: nop |
| 15:09.51 | Industrial | was why |
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| 15:10.52 | Elgrim | alt=talk ventrilo :D |
| 15:10.55 | kenlyric | but alt is a bad modifier key for a healer if you enjoy alt=selfcasting. |
| 15:11.08 | [Ammo] | anyone got a suggestion for a simple buff/debuff/weapon enchant modifier that allows me to move them freely (and not have them snap back)? |
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| 15:11.39 | dreamss | cosmos has one |
| 15:11.48 | [Ammo] | name? |
| 15:11.54 | Elgrim | [Ammo] you mean like Buffalo? |
| 15:12.01 | [Ammo] | buffalo replaces the whole deal |
| 15:12.02 | dreamss | buff options |
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| 15:12.03 | [Ammo] | which is not what I want |
| 15:12.11 | [Ammo] | I just want to move the existing frames |
| 15:12.26 | dreamss | yah one from cosmos does that |
| 15:12.33 | [Ammo] | and keep em moved and maybe scale em and modify some text / time |
| 15:12.39 | [Ammo] | I could probably write my own |
| 15:12.40 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 15:12.59 | Elgrim | Buffalo 1 does pretty much what u ask |
| 15:13.06 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:13.13 | Elgrim | also it works with cycircled if you use that |
| 15:13.17 | [Ammo] | no |
| 15:13.17 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 15:13.20 | [Ammo] | I don't need uglynmess :p |
| 15:13.27 | Elgrim | :D |
| 15:13.38 | [Ammo] | buffalo replaces all buttons |
| 15:13.40 | Nimbal | As long as you don't have other addons that modify the buff buttons, Buffalo1 should work for you. |
| 15:14.05 | Ellipsis | buffalo is overkill to just move them |
| 15:14.10 | Elgrim | Replace? ye maybe but you can make them look just like standard |
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| 15:14.17 | Ellipsis | Elgrim, that's not what he wants :P |
| 15:14.27 | dreamss | overkill |
| 15:14.29 | Elgrim | I just dont understand the demand then :D |
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| 15:14.49 | Elgrim | MOVE BUFFS? BUFFALO! |
| 15:14.51 | dreamss | [Ammo], go with mobile frames or buff options from cosmos |
| 15:14.56 | Ellipsis | the idea is to move the defaults, not replace them |
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| 15:15.16 | Elgrim | maybe CT_buffs do that |
| 15:15.20 | Elgrim | I think so |
| 15:15.23 | Elgrim | but CT? naaaah |
| 15:15.25 | Ellipsis | no, ct does buff bars |
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| 15:16.31 | dreamss | actually i think its FluidFrames |
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| 15:17.03 | Elgrim | Someone need to make a good cooldown mod, where you can filter cooldowns and display them just like buffs |
| 15:17.16 | Elgrim | everything is bars nowdays... cant stand it |
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| 15:19.04 | dreamss | i wonder if u can make a bar addon only show spells on the bar that are on cooldown :P |
| 15:19.12 | mergitur | Elgrim: cooling2? |
| 15:19.25 | Ellipsis | yeah, that sounds like exactly what cooling does o.o |
| 15:19.47 | charon | Elgrim: ReadySpell or whatever it's exact name is might work for you too |
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| 15:20.22 | charon | but i guess the real issue is: what's more important for you, the timer or the spell |
| 15:20.40 | charon | the default buff thingie puts a lot of weight on the spell icon and very little on the timer |
| 15:20.44 | charon | with bars it's the other way around |
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| 15:21.28 | charon | s/it's/its/ and s/water/coffee/ |
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| 15:27.03 | mergitur | http://pastebin.com/m711a5695 is being called on the event "SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN", but even when I'm casting a spell it still returns spellName still returns nil. Isn't UnitCastingInfo() the correct function to use? |
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| 15:28.06 | kadrahil | vithos1: got my t4 shoulders last night |
| 15:28.09 | kadrahil | vithos1: finally |
| 15:28.29 | kadrahil | it only took me downing hkm for two months |
| 15:28.36 | kadrahil | then my guild not going to gruul at all for two more |
| 15:28.37 | Bam__ | mergitur: hmm why call it on SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN? |
| 15:29.00 | kadrahil | and me going to another gulid |
| 15:29.03 | kadrahil | guild too :o |
| 15:29.29 | Bam__ | mergitur: shouldn't it be UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? |
| 15:29.46 | mergitur | Bam__: seemed like a good idea? ;) I used it earlier when I needed it to trigger on instants too, but I guess that would work too |
| 15:30.06 | mergitur | Bam__: but it triggers alright, just that the spellName returns nil |
| 15:30.31 | mergitur | Bam__: but I'll try to see if the spellcast start makes any difference |
| 15:30.42 | Bam__ | mergitur: might be a timing issue.. the client doesn't yet know that you are casting.. but im not sure |
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| 15:31.34 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 15:31.36 | Bam__ | mergitur: with UNIT_SPELLCAST_START you get the spell name and rank as arguments |
| 15:31.54 | Bam__ | mergitur: umm I think |
| 15:32.00 | mergitur | Bam__: oh, didn't know that |
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| 15:32.18 | mergitur | Bam__: I'll play around with it for a bit. Thanks :) |
| 15:32.23 | Bam__ | mergitur: or maybe it's UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT |
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| 15:34.34 | mergitur | Bam__: yes, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT seems to be the right choice :) Thanks a bunch |
| 15:34.56 | Bam__ | mergitur: np |
| 15:35.00 | Obelixprime | what's compostlib do? |
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| 15:35.35 | Ellipsis | pay no attention to the compost behind the curtain |
| 15:36.36 | Nefarion | lol |
| 15:36.47 | Nefarion | isn't that a table recycle lib? |
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| 15:37.01 | Obelixprime | heyfu uses it |
| 15:37.14 | Nefarion | ho |
| 15:37.49 | Nefarion | yeah, it's a table recycling lib |
| 15:41.42 | Elgrim | mergitur |
| 15:41.50 | Elgrim | so where do I find cooling2? |
| 15:42.46 | krka | table recycling lib is a solution looking for a problem |
| 15:43.16 | Bam__ | :P |
| 15:43.45 | Obelixprime | wowwiki the best place to look for on best practices? or should i just look at some mods as well? |
| 15:44.12 | Bam__ | just code and see what happens :P |
| 15:44.34 | Obelixprime | but i don't know what to do really |
| 15:44.41 | Obelixprime | i got given a simple dewdrop menu |
| 15:44.46 | Nefarion | Obelixprime: http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Best_Practices |
| 15:45.02 | Obelixprime | and i changed some labels and what not, but its not what i want to do, and i don't want to recode the wheel if its in a library |
| 15:45.11 | Bam__ | well looking at other addons is a great way to learn yes |
| 15:45.23 | Nefarion | also handy to download Lua for optimization. you can run segments of your choice in a large loop and do timings to see which is a faster method. |
| 15:46.12 | Bam__ | don't think it was optimization really he was looking for :) |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r54157 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | SmoothDurability: |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | * Add 'Hide from Blizzard' option. This makes it so Blizzard (and anyone else |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | requesting :IsShown() ) will get a false result. Net effect: the questtracker is |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | not bumped down when the armored man is shown. Yay for hackjob solutions :) |
| 15:46.36 | CIA-7 | * You should use this option when you have the armored man moved from it's original position. |
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| 15:52.31 | Elgrim | Armored man? |
| 15:52.49 | Elgrim | :/ |
| 15:53.09 | Ellipsis | durability dude |
| 15:54.16 | Hjalte | The knight in shiny, broken armor. |
| 15:54.31 | Nefarion | he rapes your minimap from behind when your durability is full |
| 15:54.45 | Industrial | I think he just hides |
| 15:54.49 | Industrial | :e |
| 15:54.55 | Nefarion | nah i'm pretty sure he's getting freaky |
| 15:54.56 | Ellipsis | no he only does that for you Industrial |
| 15:55.02 | Ellipsis | scary Industrial is scary. |
| 15:55.14 | [Ammo] | well with Smooth Durability you have a full gradient color and options to show him at higher durability levels |
| 15:55.22 | Industrial | very scary. |
| 15:55.26 | [Ammo] | it's imba |
| 15:55.34 | Ellipsis | if you do say so yourself |
| 15:55.39 | [Ammo] | oh boy |
| 15:55.48 | Industrial | [Ammo]: why do I need that? :| |
| 15:55.49 | [Ammo] | I might get the ban hammer on elitist jerks forums |
| 15:55.51 | mergitur | Elgrim: it's on curse I think |
| 15:55.53 | Nefarion | imba? nerf plz. |
| 15:55.53 | [Ammo] | for signing my fucking posts |
| 15:55.53 | Bam__ | any chance of a female version? :P |
| 15:55.59 | [Ammo] | what a pathetic rule |
| 15:56.11 | Industrial | yeah well thats what signatures are for |
| 15:56.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:56.19 | [Ammo] | I always type -Ammo under my posts |
| 15:56.24 | Ellipsis | naughty naughty |
| 15:56.28 | [Ammo] | not naughty |
| 15:56.30 | [Ammo] | they can sod off |
| 15:56.31 | Industrial | but we know its you :D |
| 15:56.34 | [Ammo] | I'll just not reply there anymore |
| 15:56.43 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.49 | [Ammo] | it's just silly |
| 15:57.08 | Industrial | admin abuse! report them! |
| 15:59.30 | [Ammo] | shrug, it's a silly rule and getting multiple PMs about it is silly as well |
| 16:00.05 | Nefarion | so they don't allow you to sign posts? |
| 16:00.10 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 16:00.18 | [Ammo] | I can't end a post with -Ammo |
| 16:00.23 | [Ammo] | stupid |
| 16:00.26 | Shirik | How dare you end your posts with -Ammo! |
| 16:00.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:00.32 | Shirik | That's an extra 5 bytes that the server must store |
| 16:00.35 | [Ammo] | zomg |
| 16:00.36 | Nefarion | somehow that brings the image of a greesy basement case nerf to mind saying "lawlz i gots teh power now no more post signing for joo!" |
| 16:00.48 | Nefarion | nerd* |
| 16:01.07 | [Ammo] | well the term 'Elitist Jerks' applies :p |
| 16:01.12 | [Ammo] | so I guess they're doing the right thing |
| 16:01.13 | Nefarion | lol |
| 16:01.17 | Nefarion | indeed |
| 16:01.32 | SunTsu | .o0( Why use whitespaces when writing? Imagine how much space that would save! ) |
| 16:01.46 | [Ammo] | notwhitespacingthismessagetosaveserverspacezomg |
| 16:02.06 | SunTsu | [Ammo]: That's the spirit! |
| 16:02.09 | [Ammo] | I could make sure I always have an A 2 M and an O in my messages |
| 16:02.15 | [Ammo] | and make them bold in the correct order |
| 16:02.25 | [Ammo] | just to 'sign' my messages |
| 16:02.30 | [Ammo] | bet I get banned for that |
| 16:03.29 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:03.29 | Shirik | do it |
| 16:03.53 | [Ammo] | such a pathetic rule |
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| 16:07.57 | Nefarion | that it is |
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| 16:10.56 | _shieldb | [Ammo], wouldn't suprise me if you did get banhammered on the EJ forums for post signing :\ |
| 16:11.03 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:11.16 | _shieldb | then again they are "their" forums, and it is in the "forum rules" sticky, so not much to be done about it |
| 16:11.26 | [Ammo] | yeah, and it's fine |
| 16:11.37 | [Ammo] | their UI forums are mostly full of retards anyway |
| 16:11.39 | [Ammo] | it's a bit like wowace |
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| 16:11.51 | evl_ | HELLO WOWACE |
| 16:11.55 | evl_ | HOW DO AI PRINT MESSAGE |
| 16:11.59 | evl_ | [Ammo]: U KNOW? |
| 16:12.05 | SunTsu | evl_: Without CAPS ;) |
| 16:12.08 | [Ammo] | hey evl you stinky fat gnome |
| 16:12.11 | evl_ | ;) |
| 16:12.47 | Kalroth | uhm, EJ got a bit sticky thread saying "Dont sign your posts". Hardly a surprise if they hand out infractions :) |
| 16:13.08 | Kalroth | Besides, which wanker signs his posts anyways? |
| 16:13.22 | [Ammo] | I do |
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| 16:13.28 | Kalroth | Why? |
| 16:13.31 | [Ammo] | because I do |
| 16:13.34 | many | uberwanker :> |
| 16:13.34 | [Ammo] | I always have |
| 16:13.41 | cryogen | because he's a wanker, duh |
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| 16:14.04 | [Ammo] | and if you think I'm a wanker, then fine, I sign my posts, and I doubt I can stop doing it, it's automatic |
| 16:14.07 | Kalroth | Well obviously, but it's rather redundant considering there's a huge profile box on the left side of the message |
| 16:14.26 | cryogen | a better question: "Why not?" |
| 16:14.36 | Kalroth | It's like commenting your code saying -- This is a loop. |
| 16:14.40 | [Ammo] | my small -Ammo is less intrusive than big fat banners stating your name |
| 16:14.42 | Nefarion | Kalroth, it's not the point. It's a fucking retarded rule. |
| 16:14.45 | Kalroth | -- This is a variable assignment. |
| 16:14.55 | Kalroth | No it's not |
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| 16:15.19 | [Ammo] | well if you have a problem please get off the wowace forums, because you might read my signed posts |
| 16:15.20 | Mooz1 | banners are a signature of sorts |
| 16:15.20 | many | theyre not stating the name |
| 16:15.21 | cryogen | "in addition, your posts must not contain the letter 'a'" |
| 16:15.26 | Mooz1 | -Ammo is less obtrusive by far |
| 16:15.29 | Kalroth | It annoys me to no end when people sign their posts -unless- there is no other way of seeing that it's them. Which I doubt is possible on any modern forum |
| 16:15.32 | SunTsu | Well, retarded or not. If it is a rule, you have the choice to obey it or not use the forum |
| 16:15.54 | many | wht is the letter for nywy? |
| 16:15.58 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: I'm not even there, but thanks for the warning. :) |
| 16:16.13 | Nefarion | Kalroth: so you're saying because some people have OCD and bug out by simply seeing a string of text that rules against it are okay? |
| 16:16.14 | [Ammo] | well the only threat made was I would be ridiculed like a fat kid |
| 16:16.17 | Mooz1 | i always saw post signing as a sort of formality, if you would sign instead of using a huge graphic that only you think looks cool |
| 16:16.50 | Kalroth | Nefarion: No, I'm saying it's a waste of screen space, waste of my time and waste of their sql database. It's totally redundant and it's just a bad habit. |
| 16:16.58 | durcyn | Nefarion: it's their message board, they can have whatever rules they want |
| 16:17.07 | [Ammo] | and 200x60 banners are not a waste of your screen space? |
| 16:17.11 | Nefarion | that doesn't mean it makes sense |
| 16:17.16 | Kalroth | Signing your posts is like scratching your ass in public, it makes the chicks go away! |
| 16:17.18 | Nefarion | and it doesn't mean they aren't retarded for it |
| 16:17.25 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: Which banners? I got Adblock. |
| 16:17.27 | Mooz1 | the banners likely take more sql space and server space than -Ammo |
| 16:17.28 | durcyn | if i host a forum, and pay for it, and require that you post in 24-point pink zapf dingbats, then i'm within my rights to ban you for failing to comply |
| 16:17.40 | [Ammo] | oh they're free to ban me |
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| 16:17.45 | Mooz1 | Kalroth: its not a flash banner, its a .gif image at the bottom of posts. |
| 16:17.47 | [Ammo] | it's not like I really care |
| 16:17.56 | Kalroth | Mooz1: Go check how many posts there are on EJ forum. Now add 6-10 bytes to every single post. |
| 16:17.58 | [Ammo] | it's just funny that people PM me saying I should stop quickly doing that before they get to me |
| 16:18.05 | Nefarion | we aren't talking about their right durcyn. bringing that up is entirely pointless. we're talking about the pointlessness of it. |
| 16:18.20 | Mooz1 | then remove all the signature images |
| 16:18.24 | Nefarion | it's my *human right* to piss on dogs but i don't |
| 16:18.29 | durcyn | eh, figure the most pointless bit is sitting here pontificating on it |
| 16:18.31 | Mooz1 | and you see the words "space saved" |
| 16:18.59 | Nefarion | [Ammo]: sign your posts "-signature removed" =D |
| 16:19.00 | dylanm | Are we talking about sigs? |
| 16:19.05 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 16:19.06 | Kalroth | Mooz1: No, there's a pretty big difference between 100 bytes of code on a profile and 6-10 bytes on every single post. |
| 16:19.20 | Kalroth | The latter is redundant, the former isn't. |
| 16:19.38 | [AR]Camci | im looking for a macro that when i press it, it uses a specific potion from my bags... anyone have a idea how to do this? |
| 16:19.41 | Nefarion | the human mind can be redundant. why don't we upgrade? |
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| 16:19.59 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.00 | Obelixprime | ? |
| 16:20.00 | Ellipsis | consider though that most forum software gives users a setting to disable displaying of signatures |
| 16:20.04 | dylanm | [AR]Camci: Define what you mean by specific. |
| 16:20.13 | Ellipsis | which a small minority actually uses |
| 16:20.16 | [AR]Camci | the potion is greater sleeping potion |
| 16:20.17 | [AR]Camci | errr |
| 16:20.19 | [AR]Camci | dreaming potion |
| 16:20.22 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: That too. |
| 16:20.26 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.28 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.33 | [AR]Camci | that easy? :D |
| 16:20.39 | [AR]Camci | thank you :) |
| 16:20.39 | durcyn | it's almost like you could /use <omganyitem> |
| 16:20.42 | Nefarion | nah we're just fucking with you |
| 16:20.43 | dylanm | [AR]Camci: Well then what Obelixprime gave you would work. But you don't really need a macro for that. Just drag the thing onto a bar. |
| 16:21.01 | [AR]Camci | yea but i want a /yell to appear aswell when i use it |
| 16:21.05 | dylanm | Aha. |
| 16:21.11 | durcyn | and get this - it's actualy the same thing as /cast, you can /use <holyballsanyspelltoo> |
| 16:21.12 | [AR]Camci | like /yell dont dispell or something |
| 16:21.22 | Obelixprime | you would need 2 lines then |
| 16:21.30 | [AR]Camci | yea |
| 16:21.35 | durcyn | [AR]Camci: upon which every spiteful priest and paladin in the group will dispel you. |
| 16:21.49 | HdSiles | Hey all, I was hoping there was a generic type fix for this issue. I'm getting a: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) error when I log in. |
| 16:21.50 | [AR]Camci | happen before and it sucks :P |
| 16:21.56 | dylanm | I know I would. |
| 16:22.01 | durcyn | [AR]Camci: i mean intentionally. |
| 16:22.02 | Ellipsis | HdSiles: that is nowhere near enough information |
| 16:22.08 | [AR]Camci | not intentionally ofcourse |
| 16:22.08 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 16:22.16 | Ellipsis | please give the full error message, like maybe the addon that's throwing the error |
| 16:22.31 | HdSiles | its Autobar |
| 16:22.36 | Ellipsis | update |
| 16:22.49 | dylanm | AutoBar is totally crazy right now, no? That's what I've heard. |
| 16:22.57 | HdSiles | it is as up todate as I can make it |
| 16:23.01 | [AR]Camci | ill try that /use (name), thanks |
| 16:23.01 | Ellipsis | then revert |
| 16:23.09 | Xinhuan | is it just me, or does autobar have the most number of complaints in the last month in this channel? |
| 16:23.18 | cryogen | not surprising |
| 16:23.19 | Kalroth | lol |
| 16:23.24 | cryogen | it's been more or less rewritten |
| 16:23.31 | Ellipsis | and all in trunk |
| 16:23.35 | HdSiles | Where do I get the previous versions |
| 16:23.42 | Xinhuan | well it should have been AutoBar2 - and tag it as beta |
| 16:23.42 | cryogen | all of a sudden it just worked completely differently |
| 16:23.46 | Ellipsis | http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar/ |
| 16:24.04 | HdSiles | thank you Ellipsis |
| 16:24.06 | cryogen | Xinhuan: that isnt how it was done though, hence the complaisn i guess |
| 16:24.11 | cryogen | personally im reasonably happy with it |
| 16:24.25 | cryogen | i was a little upset that it decided to add two duplicate buttons last time i updated, but i'll get over it |
| 16:24.50 | [AR]Camci | so you went emo? :S |
| 16:25.02 | cryogen | not especially |
| 16:25.20 | HdSiles | I was not sure how popular auto bar was. but I am finding it pretty handy |
| 16:25.27 | Xinhuan | nah, its just bad - its almost as if Toadkiller doesn't test his code before pushing it out |
| 16:25.47 | Obelixprime | bleh, my mind's locking up on me.. what the SCT combat log? |
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| 16:26.04 | Obelixprime | autobar was sort of broken for like 2-3 days |
| 16:26.16 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: you mean eavesdrop? |
| 16:26.20 | Obelixprime | yes |
| 16:26.33 | Obelixprime | i'm plannning on dropping dmg/healing from appearing on parrot |
| 16:26.38 | Obelixprime | or mabye just crits |
| 16:28.33 | mergitur | It's not possible for me to get the buffs from a unit by the exact name of the unitname, is it? |
| 16:28.58 | mergitur | friendly unit, which is being targetted by a spell, but not necessarily is the target |
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| 16:30.21 | Hjalte | Antiarc, how come, than when I lon in I receive a message from everyone using Threat-1.0 in my guild? (AddonSpamFu is telling me that at least) |
| 16:30.21 | Obelixprime | is there a way within bartender to hide a bar when not moused over it? |
| 16:30.29 | Obelixprime | sort of like fubar |
| 16:31.07 | Tornhoof | current version hjalte |
| 16:31.12 | Hjalte | Obelixprime: Yes. |
| 16:31.15 | LePeR|Jaunia | not sure if it has a fadeout option |
| 16:31.21 | LePeR|Jaunia | i think so tho |
| 16:31.25 | Ellipsis | it does |
| 16:31.58 | Obelixprime | i'm thinking of dropping witchunt |
| 16:32.04 | Obelixprime | just too much info on the screen |
| 16:32.18 | Hjalte | Tornhoof: But they are not in my group? I can't even find out what versions they are using, since the "Show party revisions" work only for, you guessed it, party or raid. |
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| 16:33.44 | Obelixprime | http://i12.tinypic.com/6p9d753.jpg |
| 16:33.48 | Obelixprime | current incantation |
| 16:33.53 | HdSiles | lol, now it only shows up with I tell it I want to 'move' the buttons.. but the plugin is at least working.. I will figure it out from here.. thanks again guys. |
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| 16:34.01 | Nefarion | the game accepts mastercard debit, right?? |
| 16:34.23 | Tornhoof | yeh hjalte i know, but i just see the xyz has newer version notice below omen every through my guild |
| 16:34.48 | cryogen | mastercard debit is maestro, isnt it? |
| 16:34.54 | Mooz1 | damn i wish i had a more powerful computer |
| 16:34.59 | Mooz1 | full UI mods are so shiney |
| 16:40.56 | Obelixprime | XRS can set up greater buffs too right |
| 16:41.15 | [Ammo] | it can bake pie |
| 16:41.22 | Obelixprime | Hmmm |
| 16:41.25 | Obelixprime | apple pie |
| 16:41.28 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 16:41.29 | durcyn | yeah, and it only occasionally flakes out |
| 16:41.38 | Obelixprime | brb, *unzips pants* |
| 16:41.38 | Obelixprime | ok |
| 16:42.05 | Obelixprime | i'm going to get rid of my raid frames and only have my party frames i think |
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| 16:45.11 | CIA-7 | 03nimbal * r54158 10Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.lua Buffalo2.toc Options.lua): |
| 16:45.11 | CIA-7 | Buffalo2: |
| 16:45.12 | CIA-7 | * added LibAbacus-3.0 to optional dependencies |
| 16:45.12 | CIA-7 | * active containers are now marked with an icon in the menu |
| 16:45.12 | CIA-7 | * some preparations for Buffalo2_Blender |
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| 16:47.25 | Obelixprime | can you set minichat to minimize to a certain level |
| 16:47.36 | Obelixprime | or will it minimize to only 1 line |
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| 16:49.30 | Hjalte | Obelixprime: Look in its options |
| 16:49.39 | harldephin | would it be possible to create unitframes virtually pointing at non-focused, non-(party/pet/player)targeted, non-mouseovered units in range ? |
| 16:49.49 | Obelixprime | Hjalte: I will when I get home tonight :D |
| 16:50.17 | Mooz1 | (10:49:38 AM) harldephin: would it be possible to create unitframes virtually pointing at non-focused, non-(party/pet/player)targeted, non-mouseovered units in range ? <<< that would cause hell and chaos on your screen in shattrath |
| 16:50.43 | harldephin | uhm, not really. |
| 16:51.04 | Mooz1 | then i'm misunderstanding |
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| 16:53.13 | harldephin | i'd just want to say "pitbull, virtually target that unit (which i've targeted or mouseovered currently) and put it into a new unitframe, which is not my target/focus/mouseover" and then do that with let's say 3 targets, so that i could point target or pettarget to those targets afterwards. |
| 16:54.14 | Obelixprime | sticky targetting basically? |
| 16:54.19 | Obelixprime | or target history? |
| 16:54.50 | harldephin | a "target history" may be similar to this, yes |
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| 16:56.05 | Mooz1 | ah |
| 16:56.30 | Mooz1 | i read it as 'target everything within range that isn't being moused over, targetted directly, is in my party/pet/raid, etc |
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| 16:56.44 | Mooz1 | which would be similar to putting all visible nameplates into unitframes |
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| 16:58.29 | harldephin | i'm afraid i didn't get the first part of what you just wrote because of my disconnect, if there was a first part. |
| 17:00.03 | Mooz1 | (10:56:29 AM) Mooz1: i read it as 'target everything within range that isn't being moused over, targetted directly, is in my party/pet/raid, etc |
| 17:00.03 | Mooz1 | (10:56:43 AM) Mooz1: which would be similar to putting all visible nameplates into unitframes |
| 17:00.03 | harldephin | but it doesn't seem to be impossible to me to put visible nameplates into unitframe-like frames, as long as the add-on already knows that the unit exists, e.g. by the player having targeted that unit before. |
| 17:00.32 | harldephin | ah |
| 17:00.35 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 17:00.43 | Mooz1 | nou |
| 17:00.45 | Lukian | hiya :D |
| 17:00.46 | Lukian | http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thecakeisaliefp6.jpg |
| 17:01.33 | harldephin | well, no. i wouldn't want it to automatically virtually target all units in range. that would be rather useless anyways. and it would need to have some kind of check for those units in range or new units coming into range. etc |
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| 17:02.14 | harldephin | and afaik it's not (yet) possible to uniquely identify two separate units with the same name |
| 17:02.19 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54159 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: koKR update |
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| 17:03.57 | harldephin | if this isn't possible, my next question would be, if it would be possible to create a frame (or separate add-on) that temporarily stores data (mainly the name) of one or more units the player has moused over last. which would basically be a kind of 'target history' as well. |
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| 17:07.44 | cncfanatics | herldephin, thats quite easy to make |
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| 17:07.52 | cncfanatics | but the name list made that way would not be clickable |
| 17:08.02 | cncfanatics | it'd be just that, a non-interactive list |
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| 17:13.46 | harldephin | cncfanatics: a non-interactive list would be ok too, but couldn't that add-on also create a dynamic macro (like decursive kind of does) utilising that list one by one (executed by a mouse click or hotkey, not automatically) ? |
| 17:13.52 | cryogen | cncfanatics: moo |
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| 17:15.06 | cncfanatics | harldephin, not in combat |
| 17:15.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, yes ? |
| 17:15.17 | cryogen | i was wrong about the domain |
| 17:15.20 | cryogen | it is expired :( |
| 17:15.23 | harldephin | e.g. /petattack <stored taget>, where <stored target> is being updated every time the macro is executed and changed to whatever is the next first stored target. |
| 17:15.24 | cncfanatics | renew it ? :) |
| 17:15.30 | cryogen | my registrar want £200 to reactivate it |
| 17:15.32 | cncfanatics | harldephin, not possible in combat |
| 17:15.36 | cryogen | i will have to wait until it's dropped |
| 17:15.41 | harldephin | cncfanatics: oh. |
| 17:15.53 | harldephin | i wonder why not. |
| 17:16.15 | cryogen | you want me to set one up with a url redirector for the time being? |
| 17:16.32 | cncfanatics | haldephin, because an addon could play for you if it could change macros in combat ? |
| 17:16.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I don't mind rly |
| 17:17.26 | harldephin | how's that. hm. activating the macro still needs user intervention |
| 17:17.59 | cncfanatics | harldephin |
| 17:18.07 | cncfanatics | an addon updates a macro each frame |
| 17:18.08 | cryogen | kk will do when i get in |
| 17:18.09 | cncfanatics | you just spam the macro |
| 17:18.12 | cncfanatics | there you go, its playing for you |
| 17:18.35 | harldephin | eww... |
| 17:18.44 | cncfanatics | have some immagination :p |
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| 17:18.51 | cncfanatics | and its very easy to see why blizz restricted it |
| 17:19.18 | dreamss | they dont want bots leveling people with 1 macro |
| 17:19.20 | dreamss | >_< |
| 17:19.25 | harldephin | well, then a non-interactive or at least non-add-on-actively re-used list would have to suffice |
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| 17:27.58 | Mooz1 | mage mana gems are getting a buff |
| 17:28.00 | harldephin | maybe the stored unit's names could still be clickable in a way so that they could be copied manually, since commands can still be given manually in-combat. |
| 17:28.23 | Shirik | because, you know, mages aren't powerful enough already |
| 17:28.34 | harldephin | or it could have a menu to whisper the unit if it's a player |
| 17:28.51 | many | how would you think mages are powerful |
| 17:30.44 | cncfanatics | its not like the highest rank mana gem at lvl 68 restores more then the lvl 58 one is it ? |
| 17:30.49 | cncfanatics | 300 mana difference atm :p kinda needed a buff |
| 17:31.22 | Mooz1 | probably old news, but mages are getting iceblock moved to a trainable ability, like what happened to evocation |
| 17:31.31 | cncfanatics | they are ? |
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| 17:31.32 | cncfanatics | linky |
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| 17:31.38 | cncfanatics | whats replacing it ? |
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| 17:32.00 | Mooz1 | no idea yet, its going to happen after 2.3 |
| 17:32.02 | Mooz1 | probably 2.4 |
| 17:32.08 | cncfanatics | link me ? |
| 17:32.09 | Mooz1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765962725&postId=28557790894&sid=1#33 |
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| 17:34.10 | cncfanatics | ty |
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| 17:49.32 | Xynas | hmm anyone farmiliar with cryolysis 2? |
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| 17:52.26 | kebinusan | yeah lets just give everyone their 31pt talents trainable |
| 17:53.30 | harldephin | wheee... no.. i guess that would pretty destroy a good amout of the whole gameplay then. |
| 17:53.46 | harldephin | +n |
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| 17:55.32 | harldephin | heh. i love how people go like bonkers about news or other people, in a _forum_, d'oh.. |
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| 17:57.35 | omega | one thing I don't really seem to figure out is how to create a frame as a subframe of another frame. Or is that irrelevant, just create them in the "global" or whatver? |
| 17:59.39 | [Ammo] | omega: mysubframe:SetParent( myuberframe ) |
| 17:59.53 | [Ammo] | and with fontstrings and textures it's automatic |
| 18:00.05 | omega | aha, smooth, thanks |
| 18:00.18 | JoshBorke | omega: CreateFrame(<type>, <name>, <parent>, <inherit from...>) |
| 18:00.23 | [Ammo] | you can also specify the parent in the CreateFrame call |
| 18:00.25 | [Ammo] | drat |
| 18:00.28 | [Ammo] | josh beat me to it |
| 18:00.35 | JoshBorke | slowpoke |
| 18:00.37 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 18:00.41 | omega | thanks both |
| 18:00.41 | [Ammo] | I misread |
| 18:00.56 | [Ammo] | I was thinking about reparenting |
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| 18:07.41 | Pkekyo | what's the best specc for leveling a warlock? |
| 18:07.48 | buu | Affliction.. |
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| 18:09.29 | buu | Pkekyo: Imp Corruption, Imp CoA, Imp Drain Soul, Soul Siphon, Fel Concentration, siphon life, amp curse, coex, etc |
| 18:09.31 | nevcairiel | depends on your level, with 50 get the felguard |
| 18:09.39 | nevcairiel | easy as hell then |
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| 18:09.50 | buu | Well. |
| 18:09.55 | nevcairiel | before that, affliction is fine |
| 18:09.57 | buu | "Easy" but probably slower. |
| 18:10.07 | nevcairiel | not if you play right, imho |
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| 18:10.18 | buu | I suspect it depends on your grear. |
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| 18:10.32 | buu | I'm not sure how strong your SL will be at level 50. |
| 18:10.36 | nevcairiel | plus, somewhere around 64, mobs start to hit harder and have more hp, affliction get tricky then |
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| 18:10.53 | nevcairiel | a lvl 50 has crap equip by definition :D |
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| 18:11.30 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i was able to solo most of the fear immun elites with my felguard |
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| 18:11.47 | nevcairiel | and i didnt feel slow |
| 18:11.47 | nevcairiel | not much downtime |
| 18:11.48 | nevcairiel | if any |
| 18:12.06 | buu | Most of my experience is at 70 =] |
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| 18:12.23 | buu | But once you get to outlands your spell damage will go rocketing up |
| 18:12.28 | buu | Which makes Affliction stronger |
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| 18:21.55 | NeoTron | Akama is a breeze |
| 18:22.13 | NeoTron | we'll get Azgalor down this week.. then I think we're done with "easy" and start moving into "tricky" |
| 18:23.33 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I recommend waiting at least until 52 to get a felguard. |
| 18:23.33 | NeoTron | and affliction is always "fine", if not "finer" than felguard |
| 18:23.40 | NeoTron | I did up to 60 as mostly aff, then 60-70 as felguard (felguard is better for non-fearable elites) |
| 18:23.46 | kenlyric | mostly building towards 31/30/0 is good. |
| 18:24.19 | kenlyric | you should definitely make sure you can get at least 9 points, if not 11, in affliction before you get felguard. |
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| 18:25.12 | NeoTron | 31/30/0? that is a lame spec :P |
| 18:25.26 | NeoTron | except perhasp for pvp |
| 18:25.41 | kenlyric | felguard is better, imo. |
| 18:25.50 | kenlyric | but going any deeper in affliction while solo is just kinda silly. |
| 18:26.02 | NeoTron | I'd go to at least 44-45 into demo before going into affliction |
| 18:26.24 | NeoTron | 2/3 mana feed maybe even 3/3 early on. resilience is supergood |
| 18:26.37 | NeoTron | pick resilience and maan feed before extra crit for sure |
| 18:27.25 | Pkekyo | is there any /command I can use to set Bartender3 keybindings? |
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| 18:28.06 | CIA-7 | 03clovenhoof * r54160 10RootsKings/ (. RootsKings.lua RootsKings.toc svindler.tga): |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-7 | RootsKings : Initial Commit |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-7 | - Suicide Kings based Raid Priority. |
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| 18:31.40 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r54161 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: |
| 18:31.40 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:31.40 | CIA-7 | - Update french |
| 18:31.57 | Pkekyo | recommended professions for a warlock? |
| 18:32.15 | kenlyric | skinning/mining. |
| 18:32.18 | dylanm | Um at 70 it's hard to recommend anything over tailoring. |
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| 18:33.11 | dylanm | But until then? Everything sucks. You do it because you want to craft. |
| 18:33.11 | Pkekyo | dylanm: even though I've got tailioring on my mage? |
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| 18:33.11 | Kemayo | I gather that it's the BoP sets that are awesome. |
| 18:33.24 | dylanm | Pkekyo: Well I mean you want one of the BoP sets at 70. Tailoring while leveling is silly. |
| 18:33.24 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: shadoweave gear - look is up |
| 18:33.25 | Pkekyo | was thinking alch or JC |
| 18:33.30 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IiMrZbgczuizcesz |
| 18:34.27 | dylanm | http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=553 |
| 18:34.28 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0rZbgczuizcesz is what I meant. |
| 18:34.40 | dylanm | It'll tide you over for some time. |
| 18:35.01 | NeoTron | dunno |
| 18:35.07 | NeoTron | imp drain soul might be better |
| 18:35.20 | NeoTron | for the mana return and less threat |
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| 18:35.46 | nevcairiel | ive never specced imp drain soul :o |
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| 18:35.46 | NeoTron | for solo spec |
| 18:36.06 | NeoTron | it's incredibly useful |
| 18:36.06 | Pkekyo | so, what...do I drop tailoring on my mage? not gonna level two tailoring chars |
| 18:36.06 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: no you want tailoring on your mage too |
| 18:36.06 | kenlyric | I just meant i'd not get felguard until at least 59. |
| 18:36.06 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas orlin |
| 18:36.07 | NeoTron | either for that same set or for the spellfire set |
| 18:36.14 | nevcairiel | hm no bot |
| 18:36.18 | kenlyric | imp drain soul only requires eeshards. |
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| 18:36.29 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=552 |
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| 18:36.49 | NeoTron | kenlyric: I found that havin a corruption with cast time... is fine |
| 18:36.56 | nevcairiel | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Orlin |
| 18:36.59 | Pkekyo | so I'm supposed to level tailoring on two chars? |
| 18:37.00 | NeoTron | it just gives the felguard a couple of more secs to get aggro |
| 18:37.00 | dylanm | Ehhhh |
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| 18:37.02 | nevcairiel | my spec on 70 now for solo questing |
| 18:37.04 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: yes |
| 18:37.06 | kenlyric | with a felguard? yeah, probably. |
| 18:37.10 | NivFreak | instant corruption is so hot |
| 18:37.12 | dylanm | Pkekyo: You don't have to. |
| 18:37.21 | NeoTron | if you want good pre-raid gear you should |
| 18:37.34 | kenlyric | not a whole lot of other places to spend those points. |
| 18:37.37 | dylanm | Could try to collect the d3 set. |
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| 18:37.40 | dylanm | :p |
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| 18:37.47 | NivFreak | hehe |
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| 18:37.52 | kenlyric | I guess you would shift two over to affliction hit and have it be 3/5 |
| 18:37.55 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Orlin, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (19/42/0). 6901 HP; 7797 Mana; 138 mana regen; 100 spell crit; 37 spell hit; 599 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (778); 179 shadow dmg (778); 4.32% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10); +35 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 985 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23vvex ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w8lzw ][ Updated: Thu Nov 8 09:42:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 18:37.56 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai my raid FG spec |
| 18:37.59 | NivFreak | the tailoring stuff is way beyond d3 |
| 18:38.03 | dylanm | I know. |
| 18:38.16 | dylanm | But if he wants gear... gear exists. It just isn't as good if you're not raiding. |
| 18:38.18 | nevcairiel | warlocks really raid with FG? |
| 18:38.22 | NeoTron | yes |
| 18:38.26 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 18:38.27 | nevcairiel | i thought they all are affliction or shadow destruction |
| 18:38.32 | kenlyric | tailoring if you want max, skinning/mining if you want cash :) |
| 18:38.32 | kebinusan | felguard is amazing for raid dps |
| 18:38.35 | kebinusan | actually |
| 18:38.36 | NeoTron | then you tought wrong :) |
| 18:38.38 | kebinusan | in ssc/tk |
| 18:38.47 | NivFreak | I hate pet micromanagement |
| 18:39.12 | Pkekyo | so....no JC/alch then? |
| 18:39.12 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/utychfkoxxhv3?s=5865-6539 http://wowwebstats.com/utychfkoxxhv3?s=12931-12983 |
| 18:39.13 | nevcairiel | i trust the judgement of the warlocks in my guild, and i've never seen one skill that, well i suppose it might not scale that good |
| 18:39.17 | NeoTron | not the best of examples but mot recent |
| 18:39.23 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: JC is not too great |
| 18:39.24 | nevcairiel | we killed illidan, afterall |
| 18:39.34 | NivFreak | JC is a waste of a slot |
| 18:39.38 | NeoTron | alchemy is fine for a mage due to the trinket (mroe mana restored is big) |
| 18:40.10 | Pkekyo | NeoTron: another profession is out of the question for my mage |
| 18:40.19 | Pkekyo | allready leveled enchanting to bloody 300 |
| 18:40.27 | NivFreak | tailoring/enchanting for a mage imo |
| 18:40.29 | Pkekyo | just waiting for lvl 50 so I can keep on leveling |
| 18:40.57 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/6uhy6mxua6vjk?s=2208-2557 http://wowwebstats.com/6uhy6mxua6vjk?s=7254-7578 some more examples |
| 18:41.26 | NeoTron | hyjal, at least pre-archimonde, is more pet friendly than BT so far |
| 18:41.36 | NeoTron | Naj'entus is an all-imp fight |
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| 18:42.04 | Pkekyo | so alch is alledgedly useless for a lock? |
| 18:42.13 | NeoTron | not so useful right |
| 18:42.18 | NeoTron | because you don't ever really use potions |
| 18:42.22 | nevcairiel | only reason someone might want alchemy is the trinket |
| 18:42.34 | nevcairiel | everything else, another char could craft for your, like potions and elixirs |
| 18:42.37 | NivFreak | you can tap for mana |
| 18:42.40 | NivFreak | you can drain for life |
| 18:42.43 | NeoTron | herbalism is always useful |
| 18:42.44 | NivFreak | you have health stones |
| 18:42.52 | NeoTron | let me ask you this - what is your goal? |
| 18:42.58 | kenlyric | firestones and spellstones still useless? |
| 18:43.00 | NeoTron | solo/5-mans, raiding..? |
| 18:43.03 | NeoTron | kenlyric: yeah |
| 18:43.09 | NeoTron | except spell stones can be nice for pvp |
| 18:43.10 | kenlyric | all is right with the world then. |
| 18:43.28 | nevcairiel | firestones still only get you that melee effect? |
| 18:43.31 | NeoTron | but no loc uses fire DPS nor do they melee crap :P |
| 18:43.34 | kenlyric | got a single point in demonology I've got nowhere for it to go. |
| 18:43.35 | zac | maxrank firestone is like +30 fire damage. so if you're a weird firelock, it's not useless |
| 18:43.58 | nevcairiel | you equip it oh, right? |
| 18:44.03 | Pkekyo | NeoTron: money would be nice...will be raiding though |
| 18:44.07 | zac | relic slot |
| 18:44.10 | kenlyric | Improve one of the non felguard pets, increase fel armor, or stones. |
| 18:44.12 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:44.22 | Pkekyo | warrior: BS/Mining |
| 18:44.22 | Pkekyo | mage: Ench/Tailoring |
| 18:44.22 | Pkekyo | lock: ??/?? |
| 18:44.32 | kenlyric | skinning/herbalism |
| 18:44.41 | nevcairiel | as everyone else said above, tailoring with shadoweave is teh win |
| 18:44.42 | kenlyric | since you have a miner. |
| 18:44.47 | zac | i'm JC/enchanting. +24dmg and +2dmg from professions. hooray! |
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| 18:45.08 | Fisker- | trash + lurker in 40 minutes :o |
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| 18:45.29 | Fisker- | new record for us |
| 18:46.03 | kenlyric | as a felguard spec, which pet are you most likely to use instead of it? or would you ever? |
| 18:46.34 | zac | kenlyric: if it's not a pet-friendly fight, and you can't hide it somewhere, an imp :P |
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| 18:46.58 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: if raiding consider tailoring/enchanting - minmax stuff (enchant rings) |
| 18:46.58 | NeoTron | but really pick one to raid with |
| 18:46.58 | NeoTron | equipping a mage AND a warlock with crafted gear would suck |
| 18:47.11 | Pkekyo | NeoTron: mage/shammy allready got enchanting, not gonna pop it on my lock too |
| 18:47.29 | NeoTron | I'd recommend herbalism |
| 18:47.34 | NeoTron | raiding you'll need it |
| 18:47.39 | NeoTron | but man how many chars do you have? :P |
| 18:47.52 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 18:47.55 | Pkekyo | think it's 9+ bank char |
| 18:48.07 | Pkekyo | yeah, 9+bank on my main server |
| 18:48.38 | Pkekyo | 5-6 chars on other servers |
| 18:48.59 | NeoTron | if you truly wnt to raid seriously pick one |
| 18:49.14 | NeoTron | and then make alts tailored to serve that one |
| 18:49.20 | Pkekyo | allready raiding on my warrior |
| 18:49.32 | Pkekyo | which has always been and will always be my main |
| 18:49.44 | NeoTron | then does it matter? |
| 18:49.56 | Pkekyo | does what matter? |
| 18:50.01 | NeoTron | what you do on the alts? |
| 18:50.12 | NeoTron | do you plan to gather the mats to gear them up or just use them for fun etc |
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| 18:51.07 | Pkekyo | well, either the mage or the lock will be a pvp toon |
| 18:51.29 | Pkekyo | I want professions that'll be useful preferably across most my chars |
| 18:51.58 | NeoTron | the tailored gear isn't GREAY for pvp |
| 18:52.04 | NeoTron | esp the mage set since it has no stamina |
| 18:52.13 | NeoTron | so probably not a huge concern - you'll want the pvp gear |
| 18:52.47 | NeoTron | if you don't have a herbalist get one. I did and it made my raiding life much better |
| 18:52.59 | NeoTron | from 2 flasks per day at 30-40g down to zero cost |
| 18:53.02 | NeoTron | just repairs.. |
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| 18:53.13 | zac | NeoTron: marks mitigates that enough that herbalism isn't really "required" |
| 18:53.24 | deltron | NeoTron: I am thinking about dropping leatherworking to get herbalism |
| 18:53.45 | Pkekyo | either way, gathering professions would be the way to higher levels..? |
| 18:54.02 | vrak | a friend of mine has some timer bars for respawns and such in bigwigs, where do i find those? |
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| 18:55.03 | deltron | vrak: probably an additional timer mod |
| 18:55.27 | Chompers | can it be hugz tiem Fisker-? |
| 18:55.27 | vrak | deltron: so, separate from BW or an extra for it? |
| 18:55.28 | Fisker- | indeed Chompers |
| 18:55.39 | Chompers | by hugz, i mean rape |
| 18:55.59 | deltron | vrak: take a look at Incubator |
| 18:56.10 | Arrowmaster | vrak: incubator |
| 18:56.16 | Arrowmaster | separate |
| 18:57.34 | Fisker- | oh |
| 18:57.36 | Fisker- | ok Chompers |
| 18:58.01 | Chompers | sweet |
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| 19:00.43 | vrak | thanks |
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| 19:03.55 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0cdhbZVVhhxxoVuVo |
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| 19:06.17 | Obeli1 | question about the wowace wiki coding tips.. |
| 19:06.17 | sb | mh |
| 19:06.18 | Chompers | kenlyric |
| 19:06.18 | Obeli1 | why is internalizing a string for concatenation bad? |
| 19:06.18 | sb | proudemoore sucks |
| 19:06.19 | Chompers | take points out of cleave, make sure one point is in imp whirlwind |
| 19:06.20 | sb | she casted mass teleport and then disapperaed |
| 19:06.28 | sb | right before the incoming waves |
| 19:06.32 | Chompers | other two points into imp execute |
| 19:06.42 | sb | typical mage "oops, wrong 'portal'" |
| 19:07.36 | kenlyric | chompers, got to steal more points than that. |
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| 19:08.11 | kenlyric | or, have to steal them from something other than cleave. |
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| 19:08.32 | Chompers | cleave isn't very good |
| 19:08.48 | kenlyric | ok, I can toss those two points somewhere else, but they have to go in t1-t3 |
| 19:09.02 | Chompers | 5 in commanding presence too |
| 19:09.21 | kenlyric | really? |
| 19:09.24 | Chompers | battle shout will be up nearly all the time, it's great for a melee dps group |
| 19:10.01 | Chompers | take the points out of blood craze, if you're pve you should be be getting hit |
| 19:10.21 | Chompers | *should not |
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| 19:10.43 | Cryect | Thats what you think! |
| 19:10.52 | kenlyric | oh sorry, solo spec. But commanding presence is good utility otherwise. |
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| 19:11.08 | Chompers | ah right, i was thinking raid spec |
| 19:12.20 | Elgrim | raid? go feldog |
| 19:12.33 | kenlyric | what's the deal with taking 1 point in whirlwind? |
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| 19:12.46 | Chompers | better dps cycle |
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| 19:13.13 | kenlyric | and what would you steal from arms to get the other five points needed in fury? |
| 19:13.20 | Elgrim | Chompers |
| 19:13.24 | Elgrim | your a warrior? |
| 19:13.40 | kenlyric | took one out of imp thunderclap. |
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| 19:15.05 | Chompers | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czhbZVV0VgxoVuqo |
| 19:15.10 | Chompers | something like this kenlyric |
| 19:15.13 | Chompers | yes Elgrim |
| 19:15.41 | kenlyric | so out of imp overpower. |
| 19:15.55 | Chompers | i'm never in battle stance |
| 19:16.12 | kenlyric | oh duh. |
| 19:16.17 | Chompers | so no use for it, as swapping back from berserker to overpower is a waste of rage |
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| 20:05.59 | Pkekyo | what's with all the bloody netsplits tonight? |
| 20:06.21 | dashkal | Script kiddie attacking freenode, according to a global I saw earlier |
| 20:07.45 | Shadowed | Pkekyo you can speed hack in WoW fyi |
| 20:07.51 | Shadowed | it's happened on the PTRs mainly |
| 20:08.39 | CIA-7 | 03kaybe * r54162 10Klappa/ (4 files): |
| 20:08.39 | CIA-7 | Klappa: |
| 20:08.39 | CIA-7 | -better cycircled support |
| 20:10.54 | Mooz2 | eh? |
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| 20:21.01 | Fisker- | so close :( |
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| 20:27.27 | Chronodragon | anyone alive? |
| 20:27.38 | NeoTron | no, everyone died. |
| 20:27.42 | Chronodragon | awesome. |
| 20:27.53 | Ozguli | Shadowed that's true, someone on #wow @ quakenet said there was a rogue moving between wsg flags WAAYYY too fast, wouldn't be possible even with trinkets, potion and 2 sprints (preparation) |
| 20:27.56 | NeoTron | we are now controlling oru ghosts trying to kill all the constructs |
| 20:28.15 | Chronodragon | lol |
| 20:28.29 | Pkekyo | 21:08ShadowedPkekyo you can speed hack in WoW fyi <--- how? and WHY?! |
| 20:28.42 | dashkal | Is there a tutorial, thread, document, whatever anywhere that describes taint as it relates to wow and combat? |
| 20:29.23 | Chronodragon | right.... I came here because I have an idea for an addon, based on pre-existing ace addons... I can't find anything like it, but it should be very simple to make, and extremely useful |
| 20:30.05 | NeoTron | because the server trusts the client |
| 20:30.08 | cncfanatics | Chronodragon |
| 20:30.10 | cncfanatics | ~asktoask |
| 20:30.11 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:30.13 | cncfanatics | just throw it up :p |
| 20:30.18 | Chronodragon | heh |
| 20:30.22 | NeoTron | say if you lose connectivity for 2 seconds, and then reconnect the server will essentially port you to the new location |
| 20:30.34 | Chronodragon | basically, a simple addon to tell you, while fishing, if you're hitting a node |
| 20:30.38 | NeoTron | this is to avoid the player from seing themself being teleported backwards if they lag |
| 20:30.43 | Fisker- | we had leotheras to 7% Chompers :( |
| 20:30.51 | cncfanatics | Chronodragon, how in the world would we do that ? |
| 20:31.06 | NeoTron | so speed hacking simply hacks variables in the memory of the running wow process to change factors such as movement speed. teleporting does the same with locations |
| 20:31.07 | cncfanatics | afaik, there's no way to tell if you are except to look as far as I know |
| 20:31.30 | Chronodragon | I know it can be done... cartographer_fishing updates new nodes as soon as you hit the node, before you wait to pull anything up |
| 20:31.38 | Mooz2 | telehacking used to be done in almost the same manner |
| 20:31.53 | NeoTron | however they have become pretty good at detecting it |
| 20:32.12 | Mooz2 | you would 'lag' to the server, and then 'reconnect' and tell the server you were supposed to be at location X, and the server would port you there, thinking that's where you ended up during the lag spike |
| 20:32.54 | NeoTron | back in alpha and possibly beta you could simpyl call a lua script to teleport yourself :P |
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| 20:33.06 | cncfanatics | :o intresting |
| 20:33.11 | cncfanatics | how NeoTron ? |
| 20:33.19 | NeoTron | dunno the syntax |
| 20:33.20 | cncfanatics | even though its not possible anymore that just makes me curious :p |
| 20:33.25 | NeoTron | but ther aer api's to move you around |
| 20:33.28 | cncfanatics | the logic is enough, don't care about the syntax |
| 20:33.43 | NeoTron | just sometihng like SetWorldLocation(x,y,z) type stuff |
| 20:33.45 | Chronodragon | I've looked through that addon and the others it uses, and think I've found the function in cartographer_fishing that detects nodes, called from talismonger.... but having little experience scripting, and no experience with LUA scripting, it's a bit confusing trying to track down the exact bit of code that detects nodes |
| 20:34.37 | NeoTron | I never actually saw nor used it |
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| 20:35.26 | buu | Chronodragon: I assume somewhere there's some sort of generic 'insert this in to the database' function? |
| 20:36.03 | Chronodragon | yes... but it's called from something that looks up the current node, if any, when casting a gathering skill |
| 20:37.07 | Chronodragon | the confusing bit, is that the addon that actually detects these nodes, talismonger (I assume), is set up so the addon using it must specify what to detect |
| 20:38.12 | Mech0z | Anyone know a 2.3 talent builder? |
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| 20:44.53 | Chronodragon | cartographer_fishing callse a function in Talismonger to track nodes, given a list of ones to care about |
| 20:45.21 | Chronodragon | and then there's a function in cartographer_fishing called from talismonger to add a node to the database |
| 20:45.38 | Chronodragon | so I'm pretty sure the actual detection is in talismonger somewhere |
| 20:46.02 | Fisker- | CHOMPERS |
| 20:46.04 | Fisker- | I HATE YOU |
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| 20:46.47 | Chompers | :O |
| 20:47.02 | Fisker- | leo on 7% again |
| 20:47.07 | Chompers | harsh |
| 20:47.09 | sb | well |
| 20:47.15 | sb | 15%-0% is the hard part |
| 20:47.16 | Chompers | we're on karathress |
| 20:47.17 | sb | so its 50% :p |
| 20:47.33 | Chompers | one of the guard tanks dies <1min into the fight |
| 20:47.51 | Chronodragon | aha |
| 20:48.13 | Chompers | and im trying to watch rescue dawn when im dead |
| 20:48.18 | Chompers | 20minutes into it :D |
| 20:48.29 | Chronodragon | local function GetWorldTarget() |
| 20:48.29 | Chronodragon | if found_node then |
| 20:48.29 | Chronodragon | return |
| 20:48.35 | Chronodragon | now this looks promising... |
| 20:49.07 | Chompers | Fisker- Rescue Dawn dvdrip |
| 20:49.08 | Chompers | gogogo |
| 20:49.14 | Fisker- | no u |
| 20:49.18 | Chompers | but i did |
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| 20:49.27 | Chompers | soooooo, no y |
| 20:49.28 | Chompers | u |
| 20:50.18 | Mooz2 | harble |
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| 20:52.52 | Mooz2 | harble? |
| 20:55.28 | Hjalte | harble? |
| 20:56.00 | durcyn | harbls |
| 20:58.12 | Chompers | hunter and shaman down :O |
| 20:58.12 | Chompers | this is looking good |
| 20:58.40 | Chompers | dead :< |
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| 21:01.42 | Mooz2 | bastage |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-7 | 03dfscott * r54163 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ALGIcon.tga: |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-7 | - Add new icon file (not yet implemented) |
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| 21:05.51 | Chronodragon | aha...... so the mod is somewhat reliant upon the user mousing over the node to know that it is |
| 21:07.52 | Chronodragon | hmmmm.... interesting |
| 21:09.12 | Megatf | Hey, I'm a hunter from the US forums, I make a lot of 2v2 strategy guides for Hunter/Priest, and Hunter/Druid, I'd really like to post on the EU hunter forums and see what idea's the EU hunters/priests/druids have, your forums are a lot more constructive than mine, a friend of mine Sorren said I should check here |
| 21:09.37 | Megatf | here's a link to my thread |
| 21:09.38 | Megatf | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766077170&sid=1 |
| 21:09.54 | Chronodragon | cartographer_fishing DOES grab the location of the node the moment the cast hits it, provided the cursor is over the node at the time of the cast..... hmmmm |
| 21:09.59 | Megatf | If anyone has a spare EU wow account that they wouldn't mind letting me use for posting in the hunter forums, that'd be amazing! |
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| 21:13.13 | Chronodragon | aha... |
| 21:14.16 | Chronodragon | hrm |
| 21:14.26 | Chronodragon | well, I thought it was possible, but it turns out it's not... |
| 21:14.50 | Chronodragon | cartographer_fishing doesn't actually detect if your cast hit a node |
| 21:15.16 | Chronodragon | it simply checks if there's a node tooltip up when you cast, and bases the mapnote on that node location |
| 21:15.38 | Chronodragon | er, player location |
| 21:16.52 | Obeli1 | question: say I'm in a raid, and an green/blue/purple item drops, when the need/greed roll box appears does a "LOOT_OPENED" event get fired? |
| 21:16.55 | Chronodragon | well, that's disappointing ._.; |
| 21:19.25 | Fisker- | anyone know how to shot Leotheras image phase transition? |
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| 21:26.12 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54164 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml Developer Notes.txt): |
| 21:26.12 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:26.12 | CIA-7 | -Finished most tooltips |
| 21:26.12 | CIA-7 | -Added some support for characters that aren't level 70 |
| 21:26.12 | CIA-7 | -Updated to-do list |
| 21:28.32 | Obeli1 | poke |
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| 21:33.55 | hypetech | What's a simple mod to see ilvl in game? |
| 21:34.02 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54165 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 21:34.02 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:34.02 | CIA-7 | -Temporarily fixed my stupidity (Fixed portal menu bug) |
| 21:37.16 | KarlThePagan | hypetech, informant (from auctioneer) and ratings buster should both do that |
| 21:37.38 | KarlThePagan | ratings buster is possibly a little simpler |
| 21:37.46 | KarlThePagan | both are more complex than you'd like I think |
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| 21:41.52 | hypetech | oh |
| 21:42.01 | hypetech | I actually use ratingbuster, i didn't even think of that |
| 21:42.01 | hypetech | sigh |
| 21:42.03 | hypetech | long day |
| 21:42.04 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:42.08 | Obelixprime | heh |
| 21:42.18 | Obelixprime | anyone know about my question? |
| 21:42.25 | hypetech | is there an in-game simple calculator? |
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| 21:43.26 | nevcairiel | ./dump 1+2 |
| 21:43.26 | durcyn | hypetech: mendeleev |
| 21:44.32 | NightHawkAtWork | oh god. |
| 21:44.37 | NightHawkAtWork | this code actually uses a GoTo. >< |
| 21:44.41 | hypetech | rofl |
| 21:44.43 | Kemayo | hypetech: It would be a two-to-three line addon to do so. |
| 21:45.11 | Kemayo | I mean, it doesn't matter since you already have ratingbuster, but. :D |
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| 21:45.46 | Kemayo | NightHawkAtWork: Ah, but is it a language that allows gotos, or did they have to implement their own handling of it? |
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| 21:46.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo: vb.net, and it appears to handle them. >< |
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| 21:49.57 | cryogen | NightHawkAtWork: Goto Is Not Always Evil(tm) |
| 21:50.03 | cryogen | this isnt 1980 anymore |
| 21:50.08 | hypetech | does anybody use HoB_DKP or HellbenderDKP to determine fixed costs? |
| 21:50.40 | NightHawkAtWork | cryogen: i've yet to see any use of goto that wasn't better implemented using smarter logic flow |
| 21:51.26 | cryogen | one day you will be experienced enough to make comment, then ;) |
| 21:52.19 | Obelixprime | .seen Xuerian |
| 21:52.37 | Obelixprime | ~seen Xuerian |
| 21:53.03 | purl | xuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-133-059.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3h 36m ago, saying: 'Beladona: I like various features of it, but it seems to be very resource hungry ontop of the commonly tossed up issues'. |
| 21:53.03 | Obelixprime | damnit... what's the bot command |
| 21:53.31 | Chompers | NOOOO |
| 21:53.39 | CIA-7 | 03dfscott * r54166 10AzuarcLevelGuide/AzuarcLevelGuide.lua: |
| 21:53.39 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 21:53.39 | CIA-7 | - Dry coded fix for /alg minimap on|off command |
| 21:53.42 | Chompers | 1% wipe on karathress |
| 21:53.45 | Kemayo | hypetech: Okay, I estimated poorly. Adding iLvl to the tooltip is, like, 8 lines. http://ace.pastey.net/76809 |
| 21:53.46 | Chompers | no fucking way |
| 21:56.03 | hypetech | Kemayo: hehe |
| 21:56.24 | Paene | Is there any way to see how many downloads an addon has had? |
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| 21:57.48 | Kemayo | Paene: Nope. |
| 21:58.16 | Paene | :( |
| 21:58.17 | Paene | lol |
| 21:58.33 | Kemayo | Long answer: Not unless you bribe Kaelten into running a rather expensive script to parse massive log files. |
| 21:59.00 | Kaelten | very expensive, and very massive |
| 21:59.21 | Kaelten | talking 50 million + downloads a month |
| 21:59.43 | Kaelten | I'm going to work something out |
| 21:59.51 | Kaelten | but thats still forth coming |
| 22:00.33 | Paene | cool |
| 22:03.39 | Kemayo | Kaelten: It'll be part of the big switch to separate repos? |
| 22:03.55 | Kaelten | if not the initial switch, it'll be in the next iteration |
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| 22:09.22 | Kemayo | Kaelten: Nifty, I say. |
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| 22:19.12 | sb | mh |
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| 22:26.42 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54167 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 22:26.42 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 22:26.42 | CIA-7 | -Fixed several tooltips |
| 22:27.14 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r669 10/trunk/VendorBait/VendorBait.toc: VendorBait - Valuation OptDep |
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| 23:06.37 | sb | mh - anetheron and kaz'rogal down today :) |
| 23:06.37 | sb | trash sucks :/ |
| 23:07.23 | cralor_ | is snake trap a hunter trap? |
| 23:07.33 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
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| 23:18.15 | Bruners | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/CoolMoko/NERFCYCLONE.jpg |
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| 23:25.31 | dashkal | Heh, I hate most any power that takes my char out of my control. But then, I've been on the end of one too many hemo rogue ganks. Oh look, I'm getting attacked... Oh look, I'm dead without every being allowed to move. |
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| 23:26.19 | Bruners | cyclone is just totally OP |
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| 23:26.54 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54168 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: Prevent double debuff messages |
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| 23:27.35 | tinyboom | Paene: you here? |
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| 23:34.56 | dashkal | Antiarc: Did your armory tools die? Getting a 500 when trying to use them |
| 23:35.08 | Antiarc | Hm. Let me see. |
| 23:35.34 | Antiarc | Works fine here. |
| 23:35.36 | dashkal | lol, I ask you and suddenly it comes up |
| 23:35.46 | NivFreak | armory tools? |
| 23:35.47 | dashkal | it was giving me grief for the 5 mins previous to now |
| 23:35.49 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:35.57 | Antiarc | http://armory.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 23:36.00 | NivFreak | oh yea |
| 23:36.04 | NivFreak | that's your site eh |
| 23:36.12 | dashkal | sorry to pester you *mutters about bugs that vanish when looked at* |
| 23:36.14 | Antiarc | I don't own mmo-champion, but I wrote the tools |
| 23:36.17 | Antiarc | Bibi hosts them for me |
| 23:36.26 | Antiarc | Since I was hosting them on my home connection and had my upload capped 24/7 |
| 23:36.35 | NivFreak | I use your sig generator |
| 23:36.35 | Antiarc | Meaning I couldn't do anything online, like, ever :P |
| 23:36.35 | NivFreak | heh |
| 23:37.04 | Funkeh` | which still hasn't got the profeesions level fixed |
| 23:37.15 | Antiarc | I keep missing Bibi :/ |
| 23:37.19 | Antiarc | And my login is still fubar |
| 23:37.20 | Funkeh` | ;p |
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| 23:44.14 | Antiarc | http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22723210-5005962,00.html |
| 23:45.13 | Tse | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.40 | Tse | target=targettarget? |
| 23:45.45 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:45.52 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.54 | Antiarc | Or what have you. |
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| 23:48.13 | Tse | rgr |
| 23:48.14 | charon | Cryect: are you there? :) .. i updated to get the latest sync change but the 3T bug still occurs |
| 23:52.47 | aestil | what does eavesdrop do? |
| 23:52.59 | charon | SCT in a window, so to speak |
| 23:53.14 | aestil | just in case you don't want to have combat log showing all the time? |
| 23:54.02 | charon | well it does format the messages in columns for in/out, and with little icons and such, though it's been a while since i've used it |
| 23:54.36 | aestil | with grid, there is the GridLayoutFrame, which I can parent a panel to, and then have it resize on certain events. |
| 23:54.50 | aestil | does pitbull raid frames use a similar 'layout frame? |
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| 23:58.32 | charon | disclaimer: i have no clue how that part of eepanels(?) works |
| 23:58.46 | charon | that being said, try anchoring them to the "Group N" header |
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| 23:59.48 | tinyboom | hyperChipmunk: ping |
