| 00:00.15 | Cryect | Killed something? |
| 00:00.23 | Wogroipl | \o/ Leotheras down |
| 00:00.46 | Cryect | Congrats |
| 00:01.39 | Wogroipl | he's not hard when people remember to run away for whirlwind and stop dps on aggro resets |
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| 00:02.48 | Cryect | yep |
| 00:02.52 | Cryect | thats the hardest parts |
| 00:03.02 | Xuerian | grats, Wogroipl |
| 00:03.23 | Wogroipl | thanks :D |
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| 00:20.35 | RaydenUni | it's nice to see the last update caused pitbull to forget where everything goes |
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| 00:22.41 | RaydenUni | and broke it... |
| 00:23.26 | Ellipsis | amg I has a G15 :D |
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| 00:25.34 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Didn't break for me 0.o... |
| 00:26.48 | RaydenUni | when i started changing the size it stopped updating |
| 00:26.58 | RaydenUni | i don't know why it changed the sizes for one character and not the other |
| 00:29.55 | RaydenUni | why does the range checking flicker so much? |
| 00:30.05 | RaydenUni | it flickers on target even when i select myself |
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| 00:37.24 | Tse | Diao, when you spell lock with Parrot... do you know what category it is? |
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| 00:42.00 | Diao | uh |
| 00:42.04 | Diao | it's in my notifications |
| 00:42.05 | Diao | so let me see |
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| 00:42.29 | Diao | debuff gains i guess? |
| 00:42.46 | Tse | hmm |
| 00:44.07 | Tse | maybe it's just tracking my debuffs not the enemy? |
| 00:44.24 | Diao | oh |
| 00:44.27 | Diao | whoops |
| 00:44.32 | Diao | didn't know you were talking about offensive |
| 00:44.33 | Diao | lol |
| 00:44.34 | Arrowmaster | parrot? why would it track enemy? |
| 00:44.40 | Tse | spell lock |
| 00:44.44 | Diao | i was talking about getting spell locked |
| 00:44.45 | Diao | by someone |
| 00:44.46 | Diao | :( |
| 00:44.50 | Tse | oic |
| 00:44.58 | Diao | i assumed you were as well |
| 00:45.09 | Diao | since parrot only shows events relative to your character |
| 00:45.10 | Diao | not to others |
| 00:45.12 | Tse | no, i mean i want to see somethign when my pet spell locks or devours |
| 00:45.28 | Tse | seems my pet casting something ought abe relevant =) |
| 00:45.41 | Arrowmaster | you have those on autocast? |
| 00:45.46 | Tse | no |
| 00:46.20 | Diao | well afaik |
| 00:46.38 | Diao | it only parses events that occur incoming/outgoing directly from your character |
| 00:46.43 | Diao | and damage from pet, no skills |
| 00:46.50 | Diao | but i could be wrong |
| 00:47.22 | Diao | let me log into a friend's lock and test |
| 00:47.27 | Arrowmaster | i think theres an event when you inturupt somebody elses spell but i dont know if you would get that from your pet doing it |
| 00:47.31 | Tse | well, it has a thing for petskills |
| 00:47.39 | Arrowmaster | pet damage skills |
| 00:47.48 | Diao | yeah pet damage |
| 00:48.23 | Diao | unit_spellcast_interrupted should fire |
| 00:48.48 | vithos | it has pet skills and pet abilities |
| 00:48.51 | Diao | or is that just for party |
| 00:48.54 | Tse | ill learn lua if i have to. just want to see something like "shaman friend" for felpup |
| 00:49.20 | Arrowmaster | no you wont be able to use unit_spellcast_interrupted i dont think |
| 00:49.27 | Diao | oh |
| 00:49.31 | Diao | let's see |
| 00:49.33 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:49.34 | Tse | parrot has "pet skill" "pet skill damage" |
| 00:49.35 | Arrowmaster | theres a chat_msg_ event for inturupts though |
| 00:49.36 | Diao | tse check if on outgoing |
| 00:49.46 | Diao | you have all those enabled? |
| 00:49.52 | Tse | yep |
| 00:50.01 | Tse | and "pet spell resist" |
| 00:51.03 | RaydenUni | good grief! |
| 00:51.14 | RaydenUni | pitbull reset my settings since i logged out and back in! |
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| 00:52.05 | Tse | hmm, it doesnt show seduce either |
| 00:52.27 | Arrowmaster | what would you want it to show? |
| 00:52.49 | Tse | my dream is to see spell lock/resists flash and then see devours spammed to chat |
| 00:52.55 | Tse | but the first part is key |
| 00:52.56 | RaydenUni | and trying to copy from another profile gives errors |
| 00:52.59 | Arrowmaster | what devours? |
| 00:53.01 | Diao | resists should show up |
| 00:53.10 | Tse | yea, i think resists do show up |
| 00:53.10 | Arrowmaster | like what it devours? |
| 00:53.15 | Tse | yep |
| 00:53.26 | Arrowmaster | thats already in your combat log i think |
| 00:53.30 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:53.32 | Diao | but it's a separate event |
| 00:53.36 | Diao | cause it shows enemy losing a buff |
| 00:53.39 | Diao | after the devour? |
| 00:53.42 | Diao | i think |
| 00:53.50 | Arrowmaster | it should be a dispell event |
| 00:53.52 | Tse | yea, i may have to find an addon specificaly for that |
| 00:53.55 | Arrowmaster | that says exactly what was despelled |
| 00:54.18 | Tse | im lookin to send it to chat eventually |
| 00:54.20 | Diao | well i just use witchhunt generally |
| 00:54.26 | Diao | for my own spellcast stuff |
| 00:54.29 | Diao | and it shows like |
| 00:54.33 | RaydenUni | it looks like pitbull forgot how to save settings... |
| 00:54.34 | RaydenUni | wtf |
| 00:54.37 | Diao | ++: name debuff ++ |
| 00:54.41 | Diao | or -- name buff -- |
| 00:54.49 | Diao | which works just fine for me |
| 00:54.58 | Arrowmaster | RaydenUni: more likely your SV is corrupted somehow or your using vista |
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| 00:55.10 | Tse | well, my goal is to have chat bubbles saying "devoured: polymorph" |
| 00:55.16 | Tse | in arena |
| 00:55.25 | Diao | chat bubbles o_O |
| 00:55.35 | Diao | like the ones that pop up if you use /say? |
| 00:55.36 | Tse | but aside from that, i just want to see spell lock hit or resist |
| 00:55.38 | Tse | yes lol |
| 00:55.42 | Diao | oh that's like impossible |
| 00:55.43 | Diao | lol |
| 00:55.47 | Diao | oh no wait |
| 00:55.49 | Diao | uh |
| 00:55.51 | Diao | get witchhunt |
| 00:55.52 | Tse | =) |
| 00:55.59 | Diao | and uh |
| 00:56.01 | Tse | i have it, lemme turn it on and play |
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| 00:56.14 | Diao | under output |
| 00:56.16 | Tse | i dont think it showed spell lock or devours tho. just debuffs on/off |
| 00:56.37 | Diao | well it won't specifically say what was devoured |
| 00:56.40 | Diao | but it should show spell lock |
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| 00:56.44 | Funkeh` | later |
| 00:56.46 | Diao | and it should also show when people lose a buff/debuff |
| 00:56.50 | Diao | which happens right when devour occurs |
| 00:56.53 | Tse | are you familiar with Shaman Friend? |
| 00:57.03 | RaydenUni | i think i will make due with enormous ugly frames until i figure this out |
| 00:57.04 | Tse | watchj this http://files.filefront.com/Pandemic+Nov05+07avi/;8973710;/fileinfo.html |
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| 00:57.21 | Diao | and if you want it in a chat style window |
| 00:57.27 | Diao | go to PopupMessage |
| 00:57.54 | Tse | ill try. i want it avail to teammates tho |
| 00:58.08 | Diao | uhh |
| 00:58.10 | Tse | i saw the shaman for pandemic doing that in this arena video and was like woah... |
| 00:58.12 | Diao | 1 sec let me watch |
| 00:58.27 | Diao | so what does it do |
| 00:58.30 | Diao | it reports it to party chat? |
| 00:58.32 | Diao | or something |
| 00:58.41 | Tse | their shaman spams chat with all interrupts and purges |
| 00:59.00 | Diao | seems kinda spammy to me |
| 00:59.02 | Tse | and the pally (pov of vid) has bubbles on, so he sees em as chat bubbles during the fight which is pretty cool |
| 00:59.03 | Tse | yes |
| 00:59.12 | Tse | but for spell lock and devour, i'd be happy |
| 00:59.24 | Tse | then i realized i never saw spell lock on sct or parrot |
| 00:59.28 | Diao | oh |
| 00:59.31 | Diao | that's easy |
| 00:59.36 | Diao | you can adapt that addon |
| 00:59.38 | Diao | to work with any dispel |
| 00:59.41 | Diao | by cloning the events |
| 00:59.47 | Diao | interrupts too |
| 00:59.54 | Diao | that's just party chat enabled i think |
| 00:59.57 | Diao | and he's spamming it to party |
| 01:00.14 | Diao | link me to the addon you were talking about |
| 01:00.15 | Tse | yea, i was gonna fiddle with that shaman addon |
| 01:00.17 | Arrowmaster | god this video is so boring |
| 01:00.22 | Diao | i can probably tweak it for any class |
| 01:01.44 | Tse | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=4019 Shaman Friend |
| 01:01.48 | Tse | pretty nifty addon |
| 01:02.29 | Jaxon | Anyone using ArkInventory? |
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| 01:02.55 | Arrowmaster | another addon site to not trust |
| 01:03.20 | Jaxon | I'm trying to figure out if I can make ArkInv stack all the empty spots so my window isn't so damn bloated. |
| 01:03.42 | Diao | lol |
| 01:03.45 | buu | Jaxon: I want to know if I can hide all my damn soulshards =[ |
| 01:04.18 | Jaxon | buu: same problem then, I just need one stack of empty spots showing "20" or one stack of arrows showing "4600" or one stack of soul shards showing "28" |
| 01:04.28 | buu | Jaxon: That would be hot. |
| 01:04.59 | buu | Jaxon: You could generalize it by creating a 'slot' and then togglingly a 'minimize this slot and display a count' |
| 01:05.03 | buu | Which would sort of work for arrows. |
| 01:05.14 | buu | Soulshards should stack to 100. |
| 01:05.15 | buu | IMO. |
| 01:05.17 | Jaxon | I know Baggins could do it, but the category setup is rather convoluted. |
| 01:05.27 | Tse | is there syntax for focus target akin to %t for target? |
| 01:05.41 | Jaxon | %f |
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| 01:07.53 | Tse | hmmm, can macros have if/then syntax? i.e. check to see if there is a focus? |
| 01:08.07 | buu | Sort of. |
| 01:08.24 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.28 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.30 | buu | Heh. |
| 01:08.31 | Diao | %f |
| 01:08.33 | Diao | is the check for focus |
| 01:08.36 | Tse | and what about chat? |
| 01:08.37 | Diao | as %t is for target |
| 01:08.48 | buu | Tse: I saw some addon that allowed that somewhere. |
| 01:08.52 | Tse | k |
| 01:09.06 | Diao | but i use prat |
| 01:09.10 | Diao | so i don't know if that's built in by default |
| 01:09.30 | Diao | and yeah, you can just modify purgehandler |
| 01:09.34 | Diao | and things |
| 01:09.41 | Tse | purgehandler is an addon? |
| 01:09.54 | Diao | no |
| 01:09.57 | Diao | in the shaman friend thing |
| 01:10.01 | Tse | oic |
| 01:10.04 | Diao | you modify functions like purgehandler |
| 01:10.11 | Diao | and earthshock |
| 01:10.47 | Diao | spellhandler |
| 01:10.55 | Diao | and you disable the wf/frost shock check |
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| 01:11.41 | smoke_ | what mod will alert me someway thru sound or something when a certain piece of text is put in a chat channel? i tried textspy but it doesnt work in private channels |
| 01:12.10 | Diao | prat does it i think |
| 01:12.17 | Diao | but it's pretty huge if you only want it for that |
| 01:12.55 | Diao | don't know if there's others that do it |
| 01:13.07 | smoke_ | i have it |
| 01:13.16 | smoke_ | i can set it up thru /prat? |
| 01:13.56 | buu | Hrmph. |
| 01:15.35 | Diao | i think so |
| 01:15.36 | Diao | let me check |
| 01:15.39 | Tse | is there a way to filter what witchunt tracks? |
| 01:15.43 | Diao | go to sounds |
| 01:16.00 | Diao | afaik no |
| 01:16.02 | Diao | it has a very basic config |
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| 01:16.53 | sdouble | When I make changes to Parrot (ie: add [Health] to the low health alert), it doesn't save. Is it supposed to save or does it not accept changes? |
| 01:17.12 | Diao | i think you have to press enter |
| 01:17.12 | Diao | ? |
| 01:17.40 | buu | Oh that's sexy. |
| 01:17.56 | buu | And easy/ |
| 01:18.17 | buu | Diao: This is so possible. |
| 01:18.25 | Diao | set what up? :o |
| 01:18.46 | buu | Diao: How do you detect a pet spell cast though? |
| 01:18.51 | Diao | oh |
| 01:19.03 | Tse | wel, witch hunt shows way too much stuff for me to parse to chat |
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| 01:20.15 | Diao | i think it's the same as a normal unit spellcast event buu |
| 01:21.27 | buu | Just look for the name? |
| 01:21.35 | buu | Is that even registered? |
| 01:21.57 | Diao | well i think it should be already detected |
| 01:22.00 | Diao | let me test it real quick |
| 01:22.19 | Tse | is there something like %t and %f for pet's target? |
| 01:22.42 | Jaxon | Newp |
| 01:22.54 | Diao | afaik no |
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| 01:23.07 | buu | Tse: Oh wait, it was you who wanted it. |
| 01:23.24 | Tse | prolly every lock would =) |
| 01:23.29 | buu | eventType = cast, sourceID = pet |
| 01:23.39 | buu | Tse: I am so totally going to go write this. |
| 01:23.58 | Tse | hahaha |
| 01:24.09 | Diao | haha |
| 01:24.33 | buu | Do you receive spell cast events for everyone in 200 yards? |
| 01:24.46 | buu | How very interesting. |
| 01:25.04 | Diao | you should |
| 01:25.09 | Diao | if your combat log range is extended |
| 01:25.11 | Diao | however |
| 01:25.15 | Diao | i believe the limit ingame |
| 01:25.19 | Diao | for non-party/raid |
| 01:25.21 | Diao | is actually 50 yds |
| 01:25.26 | buu | Yeah |
| 01:25.29 | buu | That's fine. |
| 01:25.34 | buu | Holy shit that's amazing. |
| 01:26.28 | Tse | buu, the core element is just showing pet abilities (non-dmg) like seduce, spell lock, devour, etc |
| 01:26.42 | Tse | im also tryin to figure out how to parse devours to chat |
| 01:26.44 | buu | Tse: Right. |
| 01:26.55 | buu | Well, according to this |
| 01:27.09 | buu | info.type == "dispell" and info.sourceSkill = "devour" |
| 01:27.13 | buu | Or perhaps, Devour Magic |
| 01:27.18 | Diao | yeah |
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| 01:27.57 | buu | But here's my new thingy.. |
| 01:28.08 | buu | Would it make more sense to have everyone just install some mod that displays it for themselves? |
| 01:28.21 | NightHawkAtWork | and they say americans are stupid, http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1022757_cool_cash_card_confusion |
| 01:28.23 | buu | I mean, there's nothing you need someone to announce since you can just see it. |
| 01:28.29 | Diao | yeah |
| 01:28.32 | buu | If you see what I mean. |
| 01:28.36 | Diao | well it's nice to say to party |
| 01:28.38 | Diao | that you purged a bop |
| 01:28.39 | Diao | or something |
| 01:28.45 | buu | I mean, your partner(S) could easily have a mod to see 'devour: bop' |
| 01:28.50 | Diao | yeah |
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| 01:30.30 | Diao | if info.type == "dispel" and info.sourceSkill == L["Purge"] and info.source == UnitName("player") and info.isFailed == false then |
| 01:30.56 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: That is win. |
| 01:31.00 | buu | Diao: That's what I was copying. |
| 01:31.05 | Diao | change that to and (info.sourceSkill == L["Purge"] or info.sourceSkill=L["Dispel Magic"] or info.sourceSkill=L["Devour Magic"]) |
| 01:31.11 | buu | Some experimetnation is is in order. |
| 01:31.18 | Diao | then change next part to |
| 01:31.25 | buu | I'm wondering the best way to announce it though. |
| 01:31.46 | Diao | and (info.source == UnitName("player") or info.source == UnitName("pet") or info.source == UnitName("party1") etc etc...) |
| 01:31.52 | Diao | it'll track all yours and all party |
| 01:31.58 | Diao | and you won't need to broadcast |
| 01:32.08 | buu | You could add it to your SCT stuff, that might be the best place. |
| 01:32.13 | Tse | announce to chat imo, by default |
| 01:32.15 | Diao | well it has output for parrot/sct/msbt |
| 01:32.17 | buu | Well |
| 01:32.22 | Tse | or to parrot |
| 01:32.25 | buu | The question is, do you announce it or does everyone just see it for themselves? |
| 01:32.35 | Diao | well in the default shamanfriend one |
| 01:32.39 | buu | I mean, it seems to me to make more sense for everyone to install it and have it display only the interesthing things. |
| 01:32.39 | Diao | there's an option to broadcast or disable it |
| 01:32.43 | buu | INTERESTHING |
| 01:32.46 | Diao | haha |
| 01:32.55 | Diao | so you could do the same |
| 01:32.59 | Diao | if your entire team has it you disable broadcast |
| 01:33.02 | Diao | otherwise you can enable it |
| 01:33.07 | Tse | see, if it goes to party chat then they have option to turn bubbles on/off |
| 01:33.18 | buu | Perhaps. |
| 01:33.50 | Diao | you can also broadcast to raidwarning |
| 01:33.52 | Diao | instead of just party |
| 01:33.59 | buu | Might be overkill. |
| 01:34.00 | Tse | i dont think many would want that |
| 01:34.01 | Diao | but that would annoy people |
| 01:34.05 | buu | Fun though. |
| 01:34.17 | buu | Heh, people |
| 01:34.33 | buu | Heh, people I know have a 5v5 team made up of all cows, so they rebind all their skills to do /skill; /moo |
| 01:34.45 | Diao | lol |
| 01:35.18 | buu | Which is hilarious when they're raid healing.. |
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| 01:37.11 | NeoTron | I feel sorry for my pally |
| 01:37.16 | NeoTron | 10 epic tank items from karazhan |
| 01:37.22 | NeoTron | ... she's not prot spec |
| 01:37.45 | Diao | lol |
| 01:37.53 | Diao | :\ |
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| 01:38.30 | NeoTron | I have as much cloth and mail healing gear as I have plate |
| 01:38.33 | sdouble | Diao, pressing enter on parrot worked great. heh |
| 01:38.43 | Diao | ;p |
| 01:38.46 | sdouble | usually there's a save button or it saves automatically |
| 01:39.08 | Diao | all rock based addons |
| 01:39.09 | Diao | you just press enter |
| 01:39.11 | Diao | after doing it |
| 01:39.13 | Diao | and it'll save |
| 01:40.04 | buu | Rock config makes me so hot. |
| 01:40.19 | buu | Of course before that I was using that stupid drop down menu stuff. So that might have something to do with it. |
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| 01:41.39 | buu | I can't decide where it should be announced to though. |
| 01:42.39 | Tse | parrot area? |
| 01:43.37 | Xelopheris | 12 hour time in lua is %i, right? |
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| 01:44.09 | Xelopheris | note to self: put cml on ignore list on wau |
| 01:47.31 | buu | Tse: How do you announce to parrot? |
| 01:47.43 | Diao | use sinklib |
| 01:48.38 | buu | What? |
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| 01:49.10 | Diao | use sinklib as a dependency |
| 01:49.26 | Tse | im not sure |
| 01:49.32 | Diao | function WitchHunt:WitchHunt_Message(msg, color) |
| 01:49.33 | Diao | if not msg then return end |
| 01:49.33 | Diao | local r, g, b = self:GetColor(color) |
| 01:49.33 | Diao | self:Pour(msg, r, g, b) |
| 01:49.33 | Diao | end |
| 01:49.36 | buu | Diao: Where do I find documentation for that? |
| 01:49.59 | Diao | that's the format |
| 01:50.12 | buu | ... |
| 01:50.45 | smoke_ | do i need anohter addon to get the sounds module to work in prat? |
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| 01:51.26 | buu | So not helpful. |
| 01:51.33 | Diao | or wait witchhunt uses something else |
| 01:51.34 | Diao | uh |
| 01:51.34 | Diao | 1 sec |
| 01:51.53 | Diao | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SinkLib |
| 01:51.54 | Diao | there |
| 01:52.27 | buu | type - (needs documentation) |
| 01:52.54 | Diao | as far as i know |
| 01:52.55 | Diao | you just do |
| 01:53.12 | Diao | self:Pour(message here, r,g,b) |
| 01:53.15 | Diao | and it'll output automatically |
| 01:53.17 | Diao | to the one of your choice |
| 01:53.18 | buu | But what is the 'addon' ? |
| 01:53.33 | buu | Implicitly passed as the first argument? |
| 01:53.37 | dashkal | Reading the docs for AceComm... I see this line: "Messages sent over the stream won't trigger the OnCommReceive (or whatever you called it) function for the sender, even if you technically receive it." Should I take this mean I can't debug by sending over WHISPER to myself? |
| 01:53.38 | Diao | yeah |
| 01:53.40 | buu | Like, Parrot:pour() ? |
| 01:53.51 | Diao | well if you have sinklib as a dependency |
| 01:54.04 | Diao | it seems you just use self:Pour() |
| 01:54.12 | buu | I am doubtful. |
| 01:54.12 | Diao | and it'll automatically output it to the right place |
| 01:54.13 | buu | Somehow. |
| 01:54.17 | buu | How can it know? |
| 01:54.18 | Diao | every addon i'm looking at |
| 01:54.20 | Diao | that uses sinklib |
| 01:54.25 | Diao | has that format |
| 01:54.30 | buu | Does it call :activate someplace? |
| 01:54.40 | Diao | nope |
| 01:54.51 | buu | Um. |
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| 01:55.24 | Diao | sinklib has options to output to parrot, msbt, sct, blizzard error frame, etc |
| 01:55.31 | buu | Yeah but how does it choose.. |
| 01:55.33 | Sekkyo | librock is currently broken in FuBar and others |
| 01:55.59 | Diao | oh |
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| 01:56.05 | Diao | self.menu.args.output = AceLibrary("Sink-1.0"):GetAceOptionsDataTable(self).output |
| 01:56.14 | Diao | through that i guess |
| 01:56.17 | Diao | you put it into the options table |
| 01:56.28 | Diao | and it gives you a list of options that you select which one you want |
| 01:56.53 | vithos | what's that function to get the frame name of what's under the mouse cursor? stupid invisible frames blocking my clicks :/ |
| 01:57.31 | buu | Diao: Oh, interesting. |
| 01:58.18 | kd3 | new ptr client! current build: 7543. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 01:58.48 | Diao | /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 01:59.00 | Diao | vithos :) |
| 01:59.13 | buu | wtb real 2.3 plz. |
| 01:59.39 | vithos | thanks diao |
| 02:00.31 | buu | Diao: Well that seems simple enough. |
| 02:00.43 | buu | I'm still wondering if SCT or Parrot or even party or /say is the right place though. |
| 02:00.52 | Diao | parrot is pretty nice |
| 02:00.56 | Diao | since it gives you all the other notifications as well |
| 02:01.03 | Diao | i have my witchhunt routed through there |
| 02:01.08 | Sekkyo | Mind if I do 14 lines of spam for the LibRock error I'm attempting to debug during a raid? |
| 02:01.19 | Diao | use http://ace.pastey.net |
| 02:01.21 | Diao | and link it here |
| 02:02.30 | Sekkyo | http://ace.pastey.net/76705 |
| 02:02.56 | buu | Sekkyo: when did you update? |
| 02:03.02 | Sekkyo | 2 seconds ago |
| 02:03.34 | buu | In a raid? |
| 02:03.34 | Sekkyo | well, i logged on for the start of the raid after updating |
| 02:03.34 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:03.45 | Diao | libstub? |
| 02:03.47 | Sekkyo | so its with the latest version |
| 02:04.10 | Diao | nm |
| 02:04.25 | Diao | what version of libstub |
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| 02:04.46 | Sekkyo | I imagine whatever is inside FuBar right now |
| 02:04.55 | Diao | hm |
| 02:05.15 | Diao | but fubar doesn't use libstub |
| 02:05.27 | Diao | i think |
| 02:05.44 | Diao | oh |
| 02:05.48 | Diao | nm libstub is used for all ibs |
| 02:05.49 | Diao | libs* |
| 02:06.42 | Diao | strange, i haven't had any errors with rock and i updated about 20 min ago |
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| 02:13.44 | Tse | you guys pwn |
| 02:13.50 | Corgan | Tse |
| 02:13.53 | Corgan | lolwut |
| 02:14.07 | Corgan | o lawd its u |
| 02:14.12 | Tse | shhh |
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| 02:24.46 | buu | Tse: What, did you achieve something? |
| 02:24.56 | Tse | no =( |
| 02:25.06 | Tse | im n00b with lua |
| 02:25.06 | buu | USELESS GIT. |
| 02:25.11 | buu | It's ok, I'll achieve something. |
| 02:25.18 | buu | As soon as I think of something. |
| 02:25.22 | Sekkyo | Sigh, I want this FuBar fix :( |
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| 02:28.15 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul thispirras |
| 02:28.18 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Thispirras, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (44/17/0). 12334 HP; 9158 Armour; 1394 AP; 230.400 Melee DPS; 33.52% melee crit; 36 melee hit; 8.32% dodge; 5.00% block; 192 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1256 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zo2ya ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3exp69 ][ Updated: Tue Nov 6 17:32:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:28.36 | the-golem | bah |
| 02:28.55 | Tse | !c us mal'ganis tsetse |
| 02:28.58 | ThraeBot | Tse: Tsetse, Level 70 Orc Warlock (43/7/11). 12210 HP; 8050 Mana; 104 mana regen; 111 spell crit; 50 spell hit; 895 +spell dmg; 4.24% dodge; 478 resilience;[[ TBR: 1023 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29byek ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uzazb ][ Updated: Tue Nov 6 17:33:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:30.39 | Corgan | Tse |
| 02:30.46 | Corgan | Season 3 starts on the 20th |
| 02:30.59 | Diao | really? |
| 02:31.02 | Tse | yep |
| 02:31.02 | Diao | is that confirmed? |
| 02:31.03 | Tse | http://www.wowblues.com/us/season-3-start-date-2766101883.html |
| 02:31.06 | Tse | ^ |
| 02:31.07 | Corgan | confirmed |
| 02:31.10 | Diao | oh wtf |
| 02:31.11 | buu | Yay! |
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| 02:31.14 | Diao | so they just said it? |
| 02:31.14 | buu | 2.3 on the 13th |
| 02:31.15 | buu | Zomg. |
| 02:31.16 | Corgan | which means 2.3 is next week |
| 02:31.22 | buu | Yeeeeeeees. |
| 02:31.25 | Diao | uhh |
| 02:31.27 | Tse | means next tues or 20th, for sure |
| 02:31.31 | Diao | it doesn't say anything on that post o_O |
| 02:31.37 | Corgan | . |
| 02:31.38 | Diao | let me go to original post |
| 02:31.49 | buu | It does too! |
| 02:31.52 | Tse | hmm, weird. that link changed |
| 02:31.56 | Corgan | er |
| 02:31.57 | Corgan | http://www.wowblues.com/us/season-3-start-date-2766101883.html |
| 02:31.59 | Diao | it's quoted |
| 02:32.00 | Corgan | wait |
| 02:32.00 | Corgan | what |
| 02:32.09 | Corgan | why did it change |
| 02:32.10 | Diao | on post 40 |
| 02:32.11 | Diao | it's quoted |
| 02:32.28 | Tse | that blue site changed it |
| 02:32.29 | buu | It's the first post anyway |
| 02:32.30 | Corgan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766101883 |
| 02:32.30 | Corgan | there. |
| 02:32.42 | Corgan | "The start date for Season 3 is purposefully planned to be one week later than the release of patch 2.3, which is currently scheduled for November 13." |
| 02:33.43 | buu | <70 warlock> Guess I'll farm and quest as much as I can before Blizzard starts sucking more fun out of my class next week. |
| 02:33.47 | buu | What the fuck ? |
| 02:34.21 | TrashCat | is fubar broke for anyone else? |
| 02:35.29 | Tse | not for me atm |
| 02:35.57 | Corgan | What did blizzard break for locks in 2.3? o.O |
| 02:36.05 | Kody- | but... is it fubar for anyone else?! |
| 02:36.09 | Kody- | sorry that was terrible :( |
| 02:36.28 | buu | Everyone who ever posts a "first" should be permbanned. On general principles. |
| 02:36.40 | Corgan | osnap |
| 02:36.41 | buu | Corgan: Drain life gets mortal striked now. |
| 02:36.49 | TrashCat | [2007/11/06 21:27:31-82-x1]: FuBar-50710\FuBar.lua:9: attempt to call global 'Rock' (a nil value) |
| 02:36.50 | buu | Corgan: But uh, other than that.. |
| 02:36.53 | Tse | as a lock, i support that |
| 02:36.56 | Corgan | ^ |
| 02:37.00 | Tse | fuck sl-sl |
| 02:37.04 | Corgan | draintaking was OP |
| 02:37.09 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 02:37.26 | Corgan | "does this mean i can s1 gear with honor points with the patch or when s3 starts?" |
| 02:37.27 | Corgan | "Good question, we'll be updating the FAQ with the questions that pop up throughout the week. Keep an eye on this thread." |
| 02:37.28 | Corgan | osna |
| 02:37.29 | Corgan | p |
| 02:37.39 | buu | Well, yeah. |
| 02:37.46 | buu | I can't argue with it too much. |
| 02:37.52 | buu | I'ms till going to drain tank. |
| 02:38.12 | Tse | ya |
| 02:38.18 | buu | I actually really don't drain much in arenas |
| 02:38.19 | Tse | but sl-sl is so cheese |
| 02:38.22 | buu | Unless I'm trying to do dps. |
| 02:38.35 | buu | The majority of the time I pop DL is on a healer at 10% running away |
| 02:38.53 | buu | Just because if I have a melee on me they're going to school-lock me as soon as the beam goes up. |
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| 02:39.19 | Erica | Hey... my fubar is fubar since the last update lol |
| 02:39.30 | buu | Join the queue. |
| 02:39.39 | Erica | Hi :P |
| 02:42.05 | blaylok | revert |
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| 02:44.07 | CIA-7 | 03next96 * r54070 10MBB/ (MBB.toc localization-koKR.lua): |
| 02:44.07 | CIA-7 | MBB: |
| 02:44.07 | CIA-7 | - Added locale koKR (by Pmang) |
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| 02:51.59 | Sekkyo | TrashCat: Yes |
| 02:52.04 | Sekkyo | It's annoying and needs to be fixed asap |
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| 03:15.34 | nymbia | ...and that's the story of how Fisker- licked a moose |
| 03:16.01 | Cryect | that was a good story |
| 03:16.33 | piggles | :/ |
| 03:23.42 | nymbia | i thought it was :( |
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| 03:43.05 | Xelopheris | woo, one shot hyjal |
| 03:43.25 | JoshBorke | salvation doesn't stack with shaman totem? |
| 03:43.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I think it does.. |
| 03:43.39 | Cryect | uh I think i tdoes? |
| 03:43.44 | Xelopheris | multiplicatively |
| 03:43.54 | NightHawkTheSane | like most threat modifiers |
| 03:43.54 | Xelopheris | 70% * 80% = 56% |
| 03:48.01 | NightHawkTheSane | did.. uh.. something break rock, or is it just some glitch on my end? >.> |
| 03:49.14 | Erica | it's broken... was just thinking about switching to disembedded to see if it works |
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| 04:00.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Erica: If you were getting the "attempt to index local LibStub (a nil value)" errors, installing LibStub as a standalone addon worked, although i had to name the addon folder (and toc file) "!LibStub" to make sure it loaded first. |
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| 04:13.12 | dylanm | This is with Rock? ck never updated the LibStub he copied onto the top of his libs, I think |
| 04:13.38 | dylanm | If you paste in the latest version it works fine. There's some comparison that's fouled up. |
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| 04:15.27 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: yeah its probably something like that, but I was too lazy to figure out what the ultimate cause was |
| 04:16.01 | CIA-7 | 03xuerian * r54071 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Upped forgotten change required by Monitor. Might've broken XLoot itself.. not sure :D |
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| 04:20.04 | RaydenUni | so 2.3 in a week |
| 04:20.48 | durcyn | supposedly |
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| 04:27.06 | Krittick | Hello. Is there a way to add sounds to the default sound set for Parrot? |
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| 04:32.29 | Xuerian | In a week? |
| 04:32.52 | Xuerian | Weren't they going to announce it two weeks before it's due? |
| 04:33.40 | Krittick | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/06/its-official-2-3-set-for-the-13th/ |
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| 04:37.30 | Bejitt | Orionshock: poke |
| 04:37.47 | Bejitt | I can't reproduce those errors in Spyglass >_> |
| 04:38.03 | RaydenUni | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766101883&sid=1 |
| 04:38.13 | RaydenUni | odd that they would announce it in an arena announcement |
| 04:38.27 | RaydenUni | so they gave 2 weeks on the new season |
| 04:41.18 | CIA-7 | 03chuanhsing * r54072 10Incubator/Locale-zhTW.lua: Incubator:update zhTW |
| 04:43.06 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD |
| 04:43.12 | sag_ich_nicht | I HATE UNSCIENTIFIC PEOPLE |
| 04:43.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis show up |
| 04:45.10 | Ellipsis | y u do dat |
| 04:45.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish you could read german now |
| 04:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 04:45.52 | sag_ich_nicht | actually it's better if you can't |
| 04:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | that way, i can't show you this chatlog |
| 04:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | what a fucking retard |
| 04:46.25 | CIA-7 | 03chuanhsing * r54073 10XRS/localizations/zhTW.lua: XRS: update zhTW |
| 04:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm so angry right now, i'd love to punch something or someone |
| 04:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 04:47.54 | Ellipsis | I'll be your punching bag |
| 04:47.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i find a certain irony in the fact that i said GOD and then I HATE UNSCIENTIFIC PEOPLE |
| 04:48.00 | Ellipsis | I'm already Lurker's |
| 04:48.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 04:48.23 | sag_ich_nicht | but you can be my hugbox. |
| 04:48.27 | Ellipsis | oh ok |
| 04:52.42 | Aeyan | The only hugbox you'll ever need is the Weighted Companion Cube |
| 04:53.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Aeyan there is a joke to what i said |
| 04:53.22 | sag_ich_nicht | it involves a certain image |
| 04:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | that i can't find right now |
| 04:53.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm looking for it currently |
| 04:53.53 | Aeyan | Shame |
| 05:03.09 | Jaxon | Does anyone know if buffs from Leatherworking drums stack? |
| 05:04.38 | Borked|Raider | anyone remember the event thats fired when all addons are loaded? |
| 05:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | found the picture. |
| 05:07.18 | Cryect | ADDONS_LOADED? |
| 05:07.35 | Borked|Raider | Cryect, ok |
| 05:07.46 | Cryect | Oh its VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 05:07.52 | Borked|Raider | oki |
| 05:07.58 | Borked|Raider | just found it on wiki also |
| 05:08.09 | Cryect | yep best to check there first |
| 05:08.16 | Borked|Raider | did say something about use ADDON_LOADED instead |
| 05:08.35 | Cryect | well if you only care about your addon or a particular addon no reason to wait for all of them |
| 05:08.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 05:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/imageboardView.php?id=3036 |
| 05:09.27 | Borked|Raider | when ADDON_LOADED is fired with arg1 = my addon, does that also mean that vars are loaded from savedvariables |
| 05:09.35 | Moozh | more loliserv? |
| 05:09.40 | Moozh | you are a cruel person, sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:10.03 | Moozh | oh hey |
| 05:10.04 | Moozh | real loli :P |
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| 05:10.41 | pakoz | hey |
| 05:10.48 | pakoz | anyone having issues with fubar? |
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| 05:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:09] <Moozh> you are a cruel person, sag_ich_nicht <--so? |
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| 05:14.08 | Diao | omfg |
| 05:14.09 | Diao | lol |
| 05:14.18 | Diao | we have a naked warlock in our wsg |
| 05:14.21 | Diao | that just capped the flag |
| 05:14.55 | ulic | awesome |
| 05:15.40 | aestil | Ellipsis: did you fail at spout? |
| 05:16.15 | Cryect | Borked|Raider: yeah |
| 05:17.47 | Borked|Raider | oki |
| 05:19.29 | Wobwor1 | hehe |
| 05:19.29 | Wobwor1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic |
| 05:19.31 | Wobwor1 | win |
| 05:23.27 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r54074 10Spyglass/ (Spyglass.toc core.lua): |
| 05:23.27 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 05:23.27 | CIA-7 | - Making sure we actually attached to the frame |
| 05:23.27 | CIA-7 | - Making sure Fubar is loaded before FuBarPlugin |
| 05:24.53 | Bejitt | meh, that's one of those "no idea wtf caused the error, so let's double protect ourselves" |
| 05:25.03 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54075 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis.xml Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 05:25.03 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 05:25.03 | CIA-7 | -Set SV's to save by profile and not char |
| 05:25.03 | CIA-7 | -Removed an extra file from the directory |
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| 05:39.36 | Ellipsis | aestil: maybe a little |
| 05:39.48 | Ellipsis | we didn't end up downing him, got close though |
| 05:39.52 | Ellipsis | chalk up one more wipe night for me |
| 05:40.06 | aestil | did you guys know that the mages can chain sheep the adds? |
| 05:40.08 | Ellipsis | at least everyone said happy birthday to me ^-^ |
| 05:40.10 | aestil | for like, the whole fight? |
| 05:40.11 | Ellipsis | uh..yes |
| 05:40.13 | Ellipsis | that's what we do |
| 05:40.14 | aestil | ok. |
| 05:40.31 | aestil | its just one of those fights, that you'll nail first time, every time soon, and you'll wonder how you ever wiped |
| 05:40.33 | Ellipsis | normally what causes our failure is idiots getting spouted |
| 05:40.34 | aestil | you'll get there. |
| 05:41.05 | Ellipsis | meh |
| 05:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 05:41.47 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/imageboardView.php?id=3036 |
| 05:42.02 | Ellipsis | yeah yeah |
| 05:42.07 | sag_ich_nicht | in reference to |
| 05:42.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:48] <sag_ich_nicht> but you can be my hugbox. |
| 05:42.08 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:48] <Ellipsis> oh ok |
| 05:49.09 | Keias | lol |
| 05:49.13 | Keias | me and my friend were in WSG |
| 05:49.21 | Keias | and he accidentally drops Stoneclaw totem |
| 05:49.26 | Keias | Some ret pally hits it and gets stunned |
| 05:53.05 | Codayus | Stoneclaw did something useful? |
| 05:53.12 | Codayus | Oo |
| 05:55.16 | Grum | lol |
| 05:56.26 | Wobwor1 | gets stunned? |
| 05:56.47 | Wobwor1 | oh wow |
| 05:56.51 | Keias | Yes |
| 05:56.52 | Wobwor1 | I never knew that happened =P |
| 05:56.59 | Keias | Its like a 50% chance |
| 05:57.11 | Wobwor1 | is that a recent change? |
| 05:57.22 | Keias | I think its one of those BC rank bonuses |
| 05:57.26 | Wobwor1 | heeh |
| 05:57.28 | Wobwor1 | no wonder =P |
| 05:57.35 | Wobwor1 | I haven't played my shammy since BC |
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| 06:00.16 | sag_ich_nicht | buff stoneclaw to make it a useful cc, imho. |
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| 06:02.12 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 06:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 06:02.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also Ellipsis stop masturbating |
| 06:05.18 | Grum | stop? start taping it you mean |
| 06:05.33 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54076 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua: |
| 06:05.33 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 06:05.33 | CIA-7 | -- Fix issue where disabling buttons makes bar disapear after relog. |
| 06:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also woho 2.3 next week |
| 06:08.07 | sag_ich_nicht | (supposedly) |
| 06:08.08 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 06:08.08 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
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| 06:11.40 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54077 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml Developer Notes.txt): |
| 06:11.40 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 06:11.40 | CIA-7 | -Recoded the main sphere to use XML instead of CreateFrame |
| 06:11.40 | CIA-7 | -Updated Developer Notes.txt with a to-do list |
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| 06:25.09 | nondysjunction | Greetings! |
| 06:26.18 | Paene | hi |
| 06:26.21 | nondysjunction | I am experiencing a slight problem with BEQL, I was wondering if anyone knew how to make the tracker location stay in one place. It seems to return to the default location upon logout for me. |
| 06:26.41 | Paene | BEQL? |
| 06:27.24 | nondysjunction | bayi's extended questlog |
| 06:27.35 | nondysjunction | can be found on files.wowace.com under the quest category. |
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| 06:41.10 | nondysjunction | Anyone have any experience with Bayi's extended questlog? |
| 06:42.23 | Paene | you'll have better luck in the evenings |
| 06:42.28 | Paene | more people awake at that time :) |
| 06:42.33 | Paene | I've never used it, so I don't know |
| 06:42.35 | Orionshock | Bejitt: ping. |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r54078 10Spyglass/core.lua: |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-7 | - Added FuBar display options |
| 06:47.04 | Bejitt | Orionshock: pong |
| 06:47.13 | Bejitt | it didnt ping me >:( |
| 06:47.19 | nondysjunction | SYN! |
| 06:47.31 | Orionshock | what u want Bejitt ? |
| 06:47.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ACK! |
| 06:47.45 | nondysjunction | =D |
| 06:47.54 | Bejitt | Orionshock: i couldn't reproduce your errors in Spyglass |
| 06:48.27 | Orionshock | well ... |
| 06:48.30 | Orionshock | eh well |
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| 06:50.41 | Bejitt | but i added cases to catch them, so eh |
| 06:50.55 | Bejitt | catch, handle, whatever :x |
| 06:53.06 | Orionshock | well let me go /run SpyglassDB = nil /rl |
| 06:53.09 | Orionshock | and see if it works... |
| 06:53.30 | Nefarion | so spyglass *isn't* broken? |
| 06:53.38 | Bejitt | afaik |
| 06:53.39 | Orionshock | Spyglass-r54074\core.lua:491: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) |
| 06:53.46 | Bejitt | the hell |
| 06:54.01 | Xelopheris | Is CML Color picker broken? Or is it because I'm using ECP? |
| 06:54.11 | Nefarion | cml? |
| 06:54.16 | Nefarion | oh cml |
| 06:54.23 | break19 | you down with ecp? yea you know me.. |
| 06:54.35 | Nefarion | ecp ftw |
| 06:56.07 | Orionshock | sorry Bejitt i find errors like no one else. |
| 06:56.12 | Xelopheris | christ, wtf does ECP stand for besides Enhanced Color Picker? |
| 06:56.20 | Xelopheris | erm wait, isn't the morning after pill called ECP? |
| 06:56.51 | Bejitt | Orionshock: srsly |
| 06:57.39 | Nefarion | *isn't* ecp enhanced color picker? if not then i'm confused.. |
| 06:58.05 | Xelopheris | it is |
| 06:58.32 | Xelopheris | but wiki'ing it has about 30 results, including the morning after pill and the English collective of Prostitutes |
| 06:58.42 | Nefarion | did ckk ever mention or respond to the possibility of coloring options for fubar text? |
| 06:58.57 | Nefarion | english collection of prostitutes? |
| 06:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict ecp |
| 06:59.24 | Bejitt | Orionshock: i'm testing w/ only Spyglass, Fubar, Bartender3, and all dependencies installed |
| 06:59.24 | Xelopheris | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECP |
| 06:59.31 | Bejitt | and no errors to be found |
| 06:59.51 | Xelopheris | fuck, looking at the ECP code, it doesn't even read a fucking variable for colors |
| 06:59.54 | Xelopheris | it's just hard written in |
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| 07:00.29 | Nefarion | whatnow? |
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| 07:01.06 | Xelopheris | clock:SetText("|cffffffff"..c.."|r") <<-- that |
| 07:01.17 | Xelopheris | one of the 'features' that was put in was the color option |
| 07:01.43 | Xelopheris | yet when you go to choose a color you get an error, and when you look at the source, there's no variable holder for the color, it's just FFFFFF |
| 07:02.19 | Orionshock | woks fine for me |
| 07:02.34 | CIA-7 | 03rodrick * r54079 10NazGuildRecruiter/Core.lua: |
| 07:02.34 | CIA-7 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 07:02.34 | CIA-7 | - A few bugfixes |
| 07:02.41 | Xelopheris | Orionshock, CML? |
| 07:02.45 | Xelopheris | Or that other thing you were talking about |
| 07:02.48 | Orionshock | oh that, no |
| 07:02.55 | Orionshock | thought u where talking bout ClockFu |
| 07:03.16 | Nefarion | yeah cml has a lotta code fuckups |
| 07:03.24 | Nefarion | well did when i last saw it |
| 07:03.41 | Xelopheris | grr, I need to really learn how to code LUA so I can just fix all this bullshit for such a simple addon |
| 07:04.03 | Nefarion | nah they've been fixed. it originally had improper var scoping (leading to it creating 3 very generically named globals) |
| 07:04.09 | Orionshock | clockfu>* |
| 07:04.13 | break19 | Lua isnt an acronym :p |
| 07:04.27 | Orionshock | but ACE is |
| 07:04.30 | Nefarion | lol |
| 07:04.44 | Orionshock | for reals ACE is a real acronym |
| 07:04.53 | Orionshock | Ace Coding Environment |
| 07:04.55 | Orionshock | iirc |
| 07:04.59 | Bejitt | man, if this problem is from the Tablet AddLine stuff.. kittens are gonna roll |
| 07:04.59 | Xelopheris | Backcronym |
| 07:05.10 | break19 | this poor ibook cant take much more headbutting.. |
| 07:05.24 | Paene | lol nice acronym |
| 07:05.25 | Nefarion | NOT THE KITTENS |
| 07:05.45 | Bejitt | it's a recursive acronym o.O |
| 07:06.02 | Nefarion | Xelopheris: I heard of an addon that fixed some of the issues of cml on wowi.. |
| 07:06.30 | Orionshock | core.lua: 491 >> _G['InspectLevelText']:SetText(format(PLAYER_LEVEL, info.level, info.race, info.class)) |
| 07:06.38 | Nefarion | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7667-SLTimex.html |
| 07:06.54 | Nefarion | don't see an option for color but i'm sure it'll get added if you throw a comment up about it |
| 07:07.08 | Bejitt | Orionshock: that's not the problem, the problem might be that the wrong object is being passed to those methods from the Tablet func's |
| 07:07.20 | Orionshock | exactly |
| 07:07.37 | Xelopheris | ... why the fuck is the guy who made that addon taking screenshots at 6 30 in the morning |
| 07:08.03 | Xelopheris | srsly, first thing that came to mind :P |
| 07:08.08 | Nefarion | i've played until 8 am before |
| 07:08.08 | Bejitt | double checking that this works for me before commiting |
| 07:08.22 | Xelopheris | I've played until 12 AM |
| 07:08.26 | Xelopheris | but I haven't coded till 12 AM |
| 07:08.36 | Xelopheris | not on something that wasn't homework at least |
| 07:08.38 | Sekkyo | is there a bug database for fubar? |
| 07:08.43 | Nefarion | real coders do their screenshots when the kiddies are asleep lol |
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| 07:09.15 | Nefarion | nah i generally find myself fucking around with code if i'm up that late actually |
| 07:09.17 | Xelopheris | real coders have illegitimate children at best |
| 07:09.55 | Xelopheris | grr, i just don't want to log on right now to test anymore changes >< i've already ran 7 heroics today, and I know I'll get drafted into more |
| 07:10.08 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.10 | Xelopheris | this is on top of Hyjal clear and BT > Shahraz |
| 07:10.15 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.16 | Xelopheris | doesn't work that great with guildies nef :P |
| 07:10.25 | Orionshock | Bejitt: try disabling your addon via suspend and see what it pukes up |
| 07:10.26 | Nefarion | see the 2nd one |
| 07:10.29 | Xelopheris | I'm too easily persuaded |
| 07:10.58 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.04 | Nefarion | =) |
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| 07:11.22 | Orionshock | Bejitt: Spyglass-r54074\core.lua:275: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "ADDON_LOADED". "Spyglass" is not registered with it. |
| 07:11.38 | Nefarion | gg |
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| 07:13.37 | Nefarion | wow, go eat shit i guess: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/1105072jenkem1.jpg |
| 07:14.14 | Xelopheris | lol, nice |
| 07:14.48 | Sekkyo | geez, that's horrid |
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| 07:15.27 | Nefarion | i wanna know how the fuck they came up with that in the first place |
| 07:15.44 | Xelopheris | they just keep mixing stuff until they feel good |
| 07:16.02 | Nefarion | lol |
| 07:18.35 | Orionshock | wtf do u have to have your profession window open to chain make something?? |
| 07:18.47 | Bejitt | yea |
| 07:18.59 | Bejitt | if you close it, it'll stop after the current one if you started a batch |
| 07:21.45 | Paene | Well, my mod isn't a complete failure. It seems to be working for a good chunk of people! /happydance |
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| 07:21.58 | Nefarion | which mod? |
| 07:22.02 | Paene | Cryolysis 2 |
| 07:22.39 | Paene | I really need to cleanup my code though...tis my first addon. |
| 07:23.14 | Paene | First time using lua, XML, Ace2 API, and the WoW API |
| 07:23.45 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.47 | Nefarion | break select parts of it at a time and give others the written right to modify the addon and commit modifications. BAM: broken parts may come out cleaned up. |
| 07:23.50 | Nefarion | =P |
| 07:24.31 | Paene | Orionshock: I don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying using the libs is a bad thing? |
| 07:24.40 | Paene | Nafarion: Genius! |
| 07:24.43 | Nefarion | i hate using wow's xml, and imo if it's your first experience with lua then do it without a framework >> |
| 07:25.09 | Nefarion | for learning sometimes Paene. you aren't tackling the challenge of the code yourself. |
| 07:25.23 | Orionshock | no libs are not bad, just have a odd tendancy to bloat |
| 07:25.56 | Orionshock | so examine each lib one at a time that you use, and ask if u use all of it or just a part of it that you could just write yourself and be better off with. |
| 07:26.23 | Paene | Orionshock: ah I see what you mean |
| 07:26.24 | Diao | libs shouldn't cover more than 1 thing at a time anyway really |
| 07:26.32 | Nefarion | though i got into lua real early in my wow days the bulk of my learning came after i began using ace2 actually. but a lot of the stuff i learned was wrong or learned slower than i think i could have. and now that i've done a couple (personal) projects without a framework i prefer writing the necessary code entirely by myself. |
| 07:26.51 | Orionshock | IE, i have a simple mod that just picks up quests and turns them in, at first i used the ace2 event lib .. eventually i made one myself that is way better for it. |
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| 07:26.54 | Xelopheris | Libs are there for when the code is FRIKKIN HUGE (threat-1.0) or ridiculously common (umm..) |
| 07:27.53 | Diao | table usage? |
| 07:28.08 | Diao | translations |
| 07:28.09 | Nefarion | Paene: i think it's really best to use frameworks on large projects--they get past the simple shit letting you get right into the more creative parts of an already large project. but first you should learn to do things on your own. and you should remember that very simple addons don't need a framework like Ace. |
| 07:28.32 | Paene | Meh, I'm lazy and prefer the easy way out when I can :-p. The mod isn't finished yet, it's just in beta stages. |
| 07:29.25 | Nefarion | that may very well lead to issues in learning or writing efficiently |
| 07:29.30 | Paene | I consider this to be a decent sized project...it was nice having the framework in place to make things easier. Learning Secure Templates and such was a pain in the butt as it was |
| 07:29.54 | Paene | heh, I'm taking a class on algorithm efficiency atm |
| 07:30.02 | Paene | has a 50% fail rate |
| 07:30.18 | Paene | I'm passing :) |
| 07:31.09 | Paene | but I've had a lot of experience in C++ and Java, so I have a fairly decent intuition when it comes to efficiency |
| 07:31.15 | Elkano | taking one currently, too |
| 07:32.38 | Elkano | but also one on software enginering ^ |
| 07:32.53 | Xelopheris | I have Soft-eng and Real Time Systems this semester |
| 07:32.55 | Paene | I had a SE class last year |
| 07:32.56 | Xelopheris | *shudder* interupts |
| 07:32.58 | Diao | omfg |
| 07:33.03 | Diao | they changed orc and human weapon skill |
| 07:33.05 | Diao | to expertise |
| 07:33.09 | Diao | amazing change |
| 07:33.12 | Paene | where do you guys go to school? |
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| 07:33.48 | Paene | I go to Michigan Tech |
| 07:33.56 | Paene | 4th year in Computer Science |
| 07:34.58 | Elkano | btw, paene, seeing that you are developing Cryolysis2, did you have a look at Sphere? |
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| 07:35.48 | Elkano | <-- University of Saarland; 13th semester computer science (I'm lazzy like hell :( ) |
| 07:35.58 | Xelopheris | 13th sem? |
| 07:37.06 | Paene | Elkano: yeah, I checked it out...it seemed a bit overwhelming to setup. |
| 07:37.20 | break19 | Elkano: weird.. we have a small town just north of here where I live, called "Saraland" interesting arrangement of letters :) |
| 07:37.32 | Xelopheris | mwahaha, friend had a 2500 rating 3v3 team with 68 games on it that he gave to me! |
| 07:37.39 | Diao | o_o |
| 07:37.45 | Diao | wtb |
| 07:38.13 | Paene | I also feel that Sphere can't get as tailored to a specific class as possible |
| 07:38.18 | Xelopheris | gotta play 16 games on it to make sure I count as aparticupant |
| 07:38.39 | Diao | lol |
| 07:38.47 | Kerafyrm | lol get in the last of the ratings "exploit" before it goes away.. lol |
| 07:38.47 | Diao | so you'll get a gladiator title basically |
| 07:38.48 | Xelopheris | yay, free 310 mount |
| 07:38.53 | Diao | :\ |
| 07:39.00 | Xelopheris | now I just need the riding skill |
| 07:39.07 | Paene | lol |
| 07:39.33 | Xelopheris | Never would've been able to do this on my 2v2 team. I shit you not, about 80% of the people riding for gladiator are druid/warrior |
| 07:39.59 | Paene | what class you play Xelo? |
| 07:40.08 | Xelopheris | druid |
| 07:40.12 | Xelopheris | I play 2v2 with a lock and rogue |
| 07:40.13 | Paene | cool |
| 07:40.25 | Paene | both combos can be nasty |
| 07:40.31 | Xelopheris | all three combos |
| 07:40.38 | Paene | I'm on a junk team with a war friend of mine |
| 07:40.39 | Xelopheris | lock/rogue, druid/rogue, druid/lock |
| 07:40.44 | Paene | I'm a priest |
| 07:41.09 | chexsum | por guy |
| 07:41.12 | chexsum | :P |
| 07:41.13 | Paene | holy priest that is |
| 07:41.14 | Paene | lol |
| 07:41.23 | Xelopheris | poor guy |
| 07:41.24 | chexsum | my mains a priest also |
| 07:41.25 | Xelopheris | so squishy |
| 07:41.42 | Paene | that's not even the worst part! |
| 07:41.46 | Paene | I'm pve holy spec'd |
| 07:41.47 | Paene | lol |
| 07:41.52 | Xelopheris | respec for PVP |
| 07:41.54 | Elkano | wasn't there a change so that you'll need to have been a real part of a team in order to be allowed the rewards meaning you need a min fraction of the team's games played? Or is that for S3? |
| 07:42.14 | Xelopheris | Elkano, 20% of games played |
| 07:42.15 | chexsum | speccing for pvp only requires you to take blessed resilience |
| 07:42.19 | Paene | Xelopheris: I would, but I'm saving up for my epic flying mount |
| 07:42.28 | chexsum | anything else depends on playstyle |
| 07:42.28 | Xelopheris | which is why if someone gave me a team with 2000 games played I wouldn't be able to do it |
| 07:42.35 | Kerafyrm | Elkano: thats coming in 2.3 |
| 07:42.41 | Xelopheris | but my friend went 68-0 |
| 07:42.49 | chexsum | well inner fire/mana burn is handy but you can do without it |
| 07:42.54 | Kerafyrm | Elkano: Personal Arena Rating |
| 07:43.02 | Xelopheris | mana burn is a necessity |
| 07:43.19 | Paene | yeah, mana burn is pretty necessary |
| 07:43.39 | Xelopheris | So is BR. bursting priests fucking sucks. |
| 07:43.48 | Diao | you need |
| 07:43.56 | Diao | imp mana burn, the cast time reduction for mass dispel, and BR |
| 07:44.00 | Diao | for a pvp specced disc/holy priest |
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| 07:44.10 | Paene | I'm off to bed |
| 07:44.12 | Paene | gnite all |
| 07:44.16 | Diao | night |
| 07:44.22 | Xelopheris | The cast time on mass dispel is really only needed in 5s |
| 07:44.43 | Diao | .5s and 1.5s makes a pretty big difference :P |
| 07:45.03 | Diao | next patch full disc is going to be pretty amazing |
| 07:45.08 | Diao | FW seems to be better than BR |
| 07:45.28 | Xelopheris | yeah, you get the fucking +healing |
| 07:45.36 | Xelopheris | druids, in their talent, get -crit damage taken |
| 07:45.39 | Xelopheris | which resilience caps out anyways |
| 07:45.58 | Diao | no |
| 07:46.00 | Diao | they get -all damage taken |
| 07:46.02 | Diao | in 2.3 |
| 07:46.04 | Diao | it's being changed |
| 07:46.05 | Diao | lol |
| 07:46.10 | Xelopheris | I know |
| 07:46.13 | Xelopheris | this is on top of that |
| 07:46.21 | Diao | well yeah |
| 07:46.22 | Xelopheris | The base talent that already exists there for druids |
| 07:46.24 | Xelopheris | is -crit damage taken |
| 07:46.29 | Diao | but druids are already too good in arena :\ |
| 07:46.43 | Xelopheris | So? We have a tlaent that becomes half useless after our gear gets to a certain point |
| 07:48.55 | Diao | also |
| 07:48.57 | Diao | lol http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766081840&sid=1 |
| 07:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | lots of talents do that |
| 07:49.00 | Diao | funny troll |
| 07:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | that's nothing special |
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| 07:55.12 | Xelopheris | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Puppyface I hate it when rogues do this. |
| 07:55.52 | Xelopheris | felsteel longblade is NOT A ROGUE ITEM >< |
| 07:55.57 | Xelopheris | hunter item at best |
| 07:57.45 | Diao | hahahaha |
| 07:57.49 | Diao | ming comparing himself to p.diddy |
| 07:57.49 | Diao | haahhaa |
| 07:58.17 | Keias | Failsteel Lolblade |
| 07:58.18 | Keias | imo |
| 07:58.29 | Xelopheris | anyhoo, I need sleep |
| 08:01.51 | Tekkub | woot, finally leveling a tauren again... |
| 08:01.55 | Tekkub | making TG file too |
| 08:01.57 | Tekkub | A A Sacred Burial |N|East at Red Rocks Amphitheatre| |
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| 08:01.58 | Tekkub | *eg* |
| 08:02.04 | Tekkub | I live 15min from there |
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| 08:04.24 | Kerafyrm | I miss Red Rocks |
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| 08:05.29 | Tekkub | God I fucking hate Joana's.... "Turn in all quests" ... LIST THEM YOU LAZY ASS FUCK |
| 08:07.11 | chexsum | shes a wow player you expect her to not be lazy ? |
| 08:10.17 | Tekkub | "turn in <blah> and accept the followup |
| 08:10.20 | Tekkub | *stab* |
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| 08:10.22 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:10.22 | CIA-7 | -Added information for alchemy flasks |
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| 08:35.31 | break19 | shameless plug for my "daddys girl" baby pics, before I go to bed.. (proud papa, gotta show em off whenever I can, lol) http://www.flickr.com/photos/break19/ |
| 08:37.20 | Orionshock | http://www.flickr.com/photos/break19/1577898857/ |
| 08:37.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.41 | break19 | hehe |
| 08:38.12 | Orionshock | http://www.flickr.com/photos/break19/1578787790/ |
| 08:38.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.29 | break19 | lol |
| 08:39.35 | break19 | actually, in that one, she's eyeballing the bottle thats being brought to me by the nurse :P |
| 08:40.12 | Orionshock | lol close enough |
| 08:40.53 | break19 | she's pushin 8lbs now tho.. gettin big.. still waitin on the wife to upload the halloween pics from the camera to her lappy, at which point I snag em and put em up on flickr |
| 08:41.25 | Orionshock | just to let you know - doing that is creepy |
| 08:41.30 | break19 | she was born 9/3/07 |
| 08:41.49 | break19 | creepy how? |
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| 08:42.20 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.03 | Orionshock | but ont he other side - cute kid |
| 08:43.19 | break19 | i got a paranoid side as well "hey, i aint worried about no internet, if they can figure out where I live from a photo, then my 12G will end any problems they might cause" |
| 08:43.39 | Orionshock | LoL |
| 08:43.42 | Orionshock | ain't that the truth |
| 08:43.44 | break19 | click.. click.. BOOM |
| 08:44.41 | break19 | and, considering I can hit a moving target the size of a softball, from 40yds away, with regularity... I think I can hit a man on my property pretty easily. :) |
| 08:45.37 | break19 | whoops.. did my redneck side slip out again? |
| 08:46.25 | break19 | anyway, thanks for the compliment.. but its quarter to 3.. I need to sleep :P |
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| 08:53.13 | starlon | Is Rock still broken? |
| 08:55.31 | Orionshock | Bejitt: hey .. can u do 2 things for spyglass |
| 08:55.58 | Orionshock | make the inspect window moveable and can u actualy center the main window inside ti to where it's not fubar'ed |
| 08:58.58 | Orionshock | btw last inspected unit dosn't work :P |
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| 09:09.46 | LAG|Domo | Someone fix Fubar :< |
| 09:10.53 | CIA-7 | 03linsu * r54081 10SacredBuff/ (Locales/zhTW.lua SacredBuff.toc): |
| 09:10.53 | CIA-7 | SacredBuff: |
| 09:10.53 | CIA-7 | * update zhTW.lua |
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| 09:16.21 | Orionshock | what's broken LAG|Domo ? |
| 09:16.36 | LAG|Domo | The same thing people reported on the forums a few times |
| 09:16.44 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.53 | LAG|Domo | I doubt it's related to people messing up their libraries |
| 09:17.05 | LAG|Domo | Automation? |
| 09:17.07 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.10 | Orionshock | yes .. install it |
| 09:17.23 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.29 | LAG|Domo | Isn't FuBar gonna embed the stuff that's missing? |
| 09:17.39 | Orionshock | not exactly.... |
| 09:17.43 | Arrowmaster | whats missing? |
| 09:17.54 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: the lib stub referance is fubar'ed |
| 09:18.01 | Orionshock | gg Funkeh` |
| 09:18.48 | LAG|Domo | Well my point is, it will be fixed right? I'm not playing until late tonight anyway, so I'm hoping it'll be resolved before I'm downloading Automaton, since I don't exactly need it :p |
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| 09:20.15 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 09:21.01 | Orionshock | for some reason "local LibStub = _G.LibStub dosn't work too well |
| 09:21.45 | Arrowmaster | got time to test something? |
| 09:21.47 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.05 | Orionshock | & LAG|Domo only reason i say install automation is because the Ace2 impementation of lib stub works guarenteed and ... untill someone unphookes lib rock's it's the next best thing |
| 09:23.17 | LAG|Domo | Aye I know |
| 09:23.20 | Arrowmaster | i have an idea |
| 09:23.36 | Arrowmaster | but i have no clue if it will work and i doubt i can test it easyly due to the number of addons i have |
| 09:23.48 | LAG|Domo | I'm just too lazy to download and set up another mod, I'd rather just wait for a fix :> |
| 09:24.10 | Orionshock | nothing to really setup... |
| 09:24.15 | Arrowmaster | if infact the problem is with the 'local LibStub = _G.LibStub' |
| 09:24.20 | Orionshock | then again automation now has a fubar module... so that idea is fubar'ed |
| 09:24.25 | Arrowmaster | LAG|Domo: want to try testing a fix? |
| 09:24.41 | LAG|Domo | Sure |
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| 09:25.15 | LAG|Domo | I have a shitload of addons too though, I might add |
| 09:25.16 | Arrowmaster | do you have LibRock-1.0 in your addons folder? |
| 09:25.21 | LAG|Domo | No |
| 09:25.40 | Orionshock | wau and update with out externals, then Reinstall all addons |
| 09:25.44 | Arrowmaster | ok look in your FuBar folder |
| 09:25.46 | Orionshock | that'll disembedthem |
| 09:25.57 | Arrowmaster | in the libs folder and see if theres a LibRock-1.0 folder there |
| 09:26.08 | LAG|Domo | 1 sec |
| 09:26.26 | clad|sleep | Funkeh`: why did you make mass changes to libraries that weren't yours? |
| 09:27.00 | LAG|Domo | Aye I'm in the LibRock-1.0 folder now |
| 09:27.17 | Arrowmaster | open the librock-1.0.lua file |
| 09:27.29 | LAG|Domo | done |
| 09:27.59 | Arrowmaster | very top of the file you should see a line with $Revision xxxxx $ on the 11th line |
| 09:28.06 | Arrowmaster | increase that number by 1 |
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| 09:28.38 | LAG|Domo | Done |
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| 09:28.49 | Orionshock | .... what exatly is that going to do Arrowmaster ? |
| 09:28.59 | LAG|Domo | >.> |
| 09:29.09 | Arrowmaster | line 13 that says local _G = _G, try changing that to local _G = genv(0) |
| 09:29.10 | LAG|Domo | I'm assuming that's not all he planned |
| 09:29.17 | LAG|Domo | Yep |
| 09:29.45 | LAG|Domo | Alright |
| 09:30.00 | Arrowmaster | thats the only think i can think of if its the "local LibStub = _G.LibStub" thats fucking shit up |
| 09:30.03 | Arrowmaster | so test that |
| 09:30.08 | LAG|Domo | Alright hold on |
| 09:30.28 | cladhaire_ | meh, just revert Funkeh`s commits if necessary |
| 09:30.40 | Arrowmaster | and if it does work it still wont make much sense |
| 09:31.18 | LAG|Domo | Doesn't work |
| 09:31.19 | Nargiddley | add the libstub file to lib.xml would be my guess |
| 09:31.29 | Orionshock | it's in the toc |
| 09:31.35 | Arrowmaster | Nargiddley: its embeded in a bunch of stuff |
| 09:31.43 | Nargiddley | would the toc get loaded when embedded ? |
| 09:31.48 | LAG|Domo | attempt to call global 'genv' (a nil value) |
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| 09:32.05 | [Ammo] | Nargiddley: nope |
| 09:32.06 | Orionshock | genvf(0) ? |
| 09:32.08 | [Ammo] | that's the mistake here ;) |
| 09:32.23 | Kalroth | Cryect: I saw that! |
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| 09:33.05 | Orionshock | hey LAG|Domo - revert all of Arrowmaster 's changes - then comment out line 308 |
| 09:33.39 | Orionshock | ? why localize an allready local value?? |
| 09:33.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah i just realized i think im looking at the wrong version of the file |
| 09:33.47 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: that won't work, I bet if you install LibStub stanadlone it'll work :) |
| 09:34.08 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: where the fuck is the libstub standalone, it seems missing from trunk now |
| 09:34.14 | Orionshock | .. local _G = _G ... local LibStub = _G.LibStub ? |
| 09:34.32 | Xinhuan | one less table lookup |
| 09:34.33 | Orionshock | why local an allready local value? - unless local _G = _G isn't doing what i think it is |
| 09:34.47 | Orionshock | one less table look up for something used once |
| 09:34.48 | Nargiddley | _G is a global variable |
| 09:34.50 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: _G isnt local |
| 09:35.28 | Orionshock | **none the less |
| 09:35.34 | Orionshock | hey LAG|Domo - revert all of Arrowmaster 's changes - then comment out line 308 |
| 09:35.57 | LAG|Domo | Yeah I did |
| 09:36.00 | Orionshock | & |
| 09:36.02 | LAG|Domo | I backed up the original lua |
| 09:36.07 | LAG|Domo | and just replaced it again |
| 09:36.49 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r54082 10LibRock-1.0/ (LibRock-1.0.toc lib.xml): LibRock-1.0: fix LibStub being loaded properly from the lib.xml instead of the .toc, should fix issues iwth people running embedded |
| 09:37.16 | Orionshock | LAG|Domo: did commenting out that line do anything? |
| 09:37.25 | [Ammo] | wait 15 mins and get fubar again |
| 09:37.28 | [Ammo] | it should work better nbow |
| 09:37.36 | [Ammo] | still need to do the other libs |
| 09:37.41 | LAG|Domo | Oh wait sorry, I didn't see the comment out line 308 bit - hold on |
| 09:38.14 | Orionshock | the errors on the forums say that it's indexing a local nil value "LibStub" |
| 09:38.17 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: bah you beat me to the commit because i had to switch to dev |
| 09:38.29 | Orionshock | well the only place it's localing lib stub is in line 308 |
| 09:38.30 | LAG|Domo | Actually damnit, it's 10.40 already, I'll try when I get back and see if it's fixed. Got a college exam, wish me luck. ;) |
| 09:38.31 | Orionshock | local LibStub = _G.LibStub |
| 09:38.32 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: because libstub wasnt being loaded |
| 09:38.41 | Orionshock | ... so that call must be braking soemwhere |
| 09:38.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.56 | Orionshock | unelss he got the file path fubar'ed |
| 09:38.57 | Arrowmaster | not for embeded |
| 09:39.02 | Nargiddley | the toc its loaded when embedded |
| 09:39.06 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt in the fubar toc |
| 09:39.22 | Orionshock | IC |
| 09:39.26 | Arrowmaster | it was in the librock-1.0 toc when it should have been in the lib.xml |
| 09:39.49 | Orionshock | ok ... this makes alot more sense now... |
| 09:39.55 | Arrowmaster | which i still dont understand why it had to be moved to a seperate file instead of being in the lib |
| 09:39.55 | Orionshock | sorry :\] |
| 09:40.26 | Orionshock | scope problems and versioning issues |
| 09:40.33 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: your a libstub dev right? |
| 09:40.41 | Nargiddley | nothing to do with scope |
| 09:40.48 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:40.55 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: I got a question about oRA2; I've made an optional module, but it's pretty much both leader and participant. Should I keep it in one addon still or? |
| 09:41.26 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 09:41.30 | [Ammo] | what does the module do |
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| 09:41.43 | Kalroth | It's a latency check, like item/reagent |
| 09:42.01 | Orionshock | ^.- |
| 09:42.06 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: the reason libstub was moved to a separate file was that these libs contained a buggy version of libstub |
| 09:42.13 | [Ammo] | one that did not play nice |
| 09:42.16 | Kalroth | It just sends the latency from GetNetStats() back |
| 09:42.16 | Arrowmaster | slap funky around a lot for uploading libstubs of minorver 2 when i swear before i updated librock it had a minorver 4 embeded in it |
| 09:42.43 | Arrowmaster | unless that was the one that didnt play nice |
| 09:42.44 | Kalroth | http://acdev.org/Latency.lua (not 100% clean yet, there is no UI option to disable it) |
| 09:43.04 | Orionshock | and why did he upload seperate files?? why not just set and external to it? |
| 09:43.07 | Kalroth | We only use it internally at the moment |
| 09:43.54 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: like I said, the version inside those libs was wrong |
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| 09:44.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah i see now |
| 09:44.21 | Arrowmaster | and now all of ckk's libs are going to break since hes using negative revision numbers |
| 09:45.00 | Arrowmaster | so even though libstub will not be loaded for librock, librock isnt go to work |
| 09:45.37 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r54083 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/ (LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.toc lib.xml): LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: fix LibStub reference to be in lib.xml not in .toc |
| 09:46.31 | [Ammo] | oh, that's bad |
| 09:48.05 | Orionshock | what using negitive rev numbers? |
| 09:48.19 | Arrowmaster | ckk's new libs |
| 09:48.50 | Arrowmaster | so that when he moves them to new svn servers he can remove the code that makes them negative |
| 09:48.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.12 | Arrowmaster | strmatch(minor, "%d+") wont catch negatives |
| 09:49.33 | Arrowmaster | or atleast the negative part of them |
| 09:49.34 | Orionshock | what seen as nill? |
| 09:49.48 | Arrowmaster | nah should be seen as a possitive |
| 09:50.01 | Arrowmaster | but it will probably reverse some lib upgrading till its fixed |
| 09:50.17 | Arrowmaster | as in the oldest version will be the one loaded instead of the newest |
| 09:50.33 | Orionshock | jira said they ain't going to put in neg number recognition |
| 09:50.51 | Orionshock | very violently not going to put it in |
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| 10:01.48 | cladhaire | he could have just.. oh i dont know.. bumped the major version when me moved servers |
| 10:01.56 | cladhaire | since everyone would need to get new packages anyway |
| 10:02.18 | Orionshock | wowace it's a nice idea - versioning hell |
| 10:03.10 | Orionshock | i still think my idea is better than having all the svn servers here.... |
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| 10:21.53 | Tekkub | OMG BUT BUMPING MAJORS IS LIKE, INCONVIENT |
| 10:22.51 | Orionshock | more like when u do no one gives a dam and thus things don't get updated... |
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| 10:33.58 | krka | wait... what would be the point of negative revision numbers? |
| 10:34.35 | Orionshock | so that if/when u move repositorys it adjusts for upgrades |
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| 10:40.41 | cladhaire | there really isn't one |
| 10:40.53 | cladhaire | just like him keeping his own versioning for LibStub instead of using the same one everyone else does |
| 10:41.01 | Orionshock | ok dumb question, how do u feed a list of string returns into a table? |
| 10:41.17 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.19 | Tekkub | {f()} |
| 10:41.22 | julith | how can I rename an addon (without checking out the whole repository)? |
| 10:41.29 | Tekkub | not advisable though |
| 10:41.57 | Orionshock | why not tek? |
| 10:42.02 | Tekkub | garbage |
| 10:42.07 | Orionshock | ? |
| 10:42.16 | Tekkub | you're creating a table |
| 10:42.26 | Tekkub | should only really do that if you're saving the stuff for later |
| 10:42.31 | Orionshock | right but i'll be using the table |
| 10:42.41 | Tekkub | using HOW? |
| 10:43.22 | Orionshock | .. by pairs() ing over it and then doing stuff with it :D |
| 10:43.37 | Tekkub | like I said, not advisable |
| 10:43.54 | Tekkub | make a function, pass it there, then iter over the tupple |
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| 10:44.11 | baer_ | moin. |
| 10:44.28 | Bejitt | moinmoin! |
| 10:44.34 | Tekkub | function tablethingdostuff(...) for i=1,select("#", ...) do local v = select(i, ...) do shit end end |
| 10:44.49 | baer_ | Bejitt, it's after 11 am here! |
| 10:45.06 | Bejitt | errr guten taag? |
| 10:45.12 | Bejitt | bleh |
| 10:45.16 | Tekkub | and now you only wasted memory for one function ever instead of a table every time |
| 10:45.19 | baer_ | "moin" does the job after 11 am. :) |
| 10:45.40 | baer_ | besides we say "moin" to not collide within all the fog here. :-p |
| 10:45.41 | Orionshock | but i like garbage :D |
| 10:45.58 | [Ammo] | tsk |
| 10:46.41 | Orionshock | while true do t = {}, for i = 1, 100 do t [i ] = i end |
| 10:47.12 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r54084 10EnhancedStackSplit/EnhancedStackSplit.lua: EnhancedStackSplit: added zhTW translation (thanks whocare) |
| 10:48.40 | Orionshock | while true do garbage() l function garbage() t = {}, for i = 1, 100 do t [i ] = i; for j = 1, 100 do t[i][k] = i*k end end garbage() end |
| 10:49.22 | SunTsu | Hm, is there a way to make Aloft show NPC's "Guilds"? Like that they are merchants or teachers or such. I don't see that with friendly nameplates enabled. And if I disable nameplates for friendly NPCs I won't see any name. |
| 10:50.58 | julith | how can I rename an addon (without checking out the whole repository), or at least how can I delete it? |
| 10:51.16 | [Ammo] | get tortoise, use the repo browser, rightclick the folder and select delete |
| 10:51.50 | julith | ah, thanks, good idea |
| 10:52.14 | [Ammo] | or rename ofcourse |
| 10:52.22 | [Ammo] | it should be in the rightclick options in the repo browser as well |
| 10:53.12 | julith | i actually don't have tortoise, but subclipse will do the job |
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| 10:58.22 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r54085 10EnhancedStackSplit/EnhancedStackSplit.toc: EnhancedStackSplit: added zhTW notes to toc (thanks whocare) |
| 10:58.24 | CIA-7 | 03julith * r54086 10/trunk/ (GoodTarget/ GoodTargetAce/): |
| 10:58.24 | CIA-7 | GoodTargetAce: |
| 10:58.24 | CIA-7 | - renamed to GoodTarget |
| 10:58.49 | Orionshock | julith: ya... best to rename that |
| 11:00.10 | Orionshock | i wonder how many ppl gave u crap about the name ... hehe... seems to be a anti-cult arround the naming methods here.... |
| 11:00.47 | Zhinjio | G'day. |
| 11:02.38 | julith | orionshock: got two complains about that...i didn't even know there were such a problem |
| 11:02.55 | Orionshock | hehe... |
| 11:03.05 | CIA-7 | 03julith * r54087 10GoodTarget/ (4 files): |
| 11:03.05 | CIA-7 | GoodTarget: |
| 11:03.05 | CIA-7 | - completed renaming to GoodTarget |
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| 11:09.45 | Orionshock | is there a table.remove ? |
| 11:10.19 | Zhinjio | yes. |
| 11:10.33 | Zhinjio | table.remove( t, index ) |
| 11:11.15 | Zhinjio | tremove works as well. |
| 11:11.19 | Zhinjio | is that what you were asking? |
| 11:12.07 | Orionshock | ya |
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| 11:12.52 | Orionshock | in a list table that'll re arange the remaining k,v's right? |
| 11:13.04 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Beta * r54088 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 11:13.04 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceGUI-3.0: |
| 11:13.04 | CIA-7 | - change safecall to check for func and adjust all conditional function calls to use safecall |
| 11:13.15 | Zhinjio | yes. I don't know if it works on tables that have non-numeric indeces. |
| 11:13.33 | Zhinjio | indexes? indeces? w/e |
| 11:15.09 | Diao | indices? |
| 11:15.09 | Codayus | indices |
| 11:15.15 | Codayus | ...too slow, I fail. |
| 11:15.18 | Diao | :P |
| 11:16.44 | Orionshock | urg... |
| 11:16.50 | Zhinjio | ah, yeah, that looks much better. |
| 11:16.54 | Orionshock | sorry Tekkub your idea won't work for what i need |
| 11:17.05 | Tekkub | why? |
| 11:19.01 | Orionshock | i need a numerical index |
| 11:19.50 | Tekkub | you have i right there in the loop dumbass |
| 11:19.57 | Tekkub | for i,........ |
| 11:20.03 | Orionshock | but it's the wrong index |
| 11:20.17 | Tekkub | no it's not.... |
| 11:20.24 | Orionshock | in this case yes |
| 11:20.39 | Tekkub | it's the same one you'd get from {f()} |
| 11:20.46 | Orionshock | GetGossipAvailableQuests() - returns the quest title and then the quest lvl for all available quests |
| 11:20.54 | Orionshock | i don't care for the quest lvl just the name |
| 11:21.11 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76725 |
| 11:21.14 | Tekkub | so it's name,level,name,level,name,level...? |
| 11:21.20 | Orionshock | yes |
| 11:21.30 | Tekkub | so if i is even then... |
| 11:21.33 | Tekkub | or odd |
| 11:21.37 | Tekkub | whichever |
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| 11:22.08 | Tekkub | oh that is... I think I'm going to stab you |
| 11:22.32 | Orionshock | what?? |
| 11:22.37 | Tekkub | please hold |
| 11:22.58 | Orionshock | i local'ed qlist above the function. |
| 11:23.12 | Orionshock | it's not going to make that much garbage |
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| 11:24.06 | Orionshock | ... we love Tekkub .. and his antics... |
| 11:24.32 | Tekkub | yes it is |
| 11:24.37 | Tekkub | which is why you fail |
| 11:24.39 | Orionshock | how |
| 11:24.41 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: you could cheat and use ... |
| 11:24.47 | Tekkub | which is why I was trying to tell you not to do it that way |
| 11:24.50 | Orionshock | it makes a table the first time, then reuses it then after |
| 11:24.55 | Tekkub | that's what I told him arrow |
| 11:25.12 | Tekkub | no Orion, it makes a new table every time |
| 11:25.19 | Tekkub | you have local scope, that's all |
| 11:25.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah that does make a new table every time |
| 11:25.42 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.44 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 11:25.47 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 11:25.47 | Tekkub | and you don't need i |
| 11:25.49 | Tekkub | at all |
| 11:25.50 | Tekkub | ever |
| 11:25.53 | Arrowmaster | everytime you use {} a new table is created |
| 11:25.54 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastey.net/76727 |
| 11:26.14 | Tekkub | oops, add "function" to that first line |
| 11:27.12 | Orionshock | right.. but that don't help... and i did the func wrong |
| 11:27.33 | Tekkub | ... |
| 11:27.34 | Orionshock | .. i need the numerical index of that quest, that npc has 3 quests on him at any given time |
| 11:27.53 | Tekkub | fine then, you said the odd ones are the quest names? |
| 11:27.59 | Orionshock | even |
| 11:28.17 | Arrowmaster | return i-1 then |
| 11:28.54 | Orionshock | ok that would work.. |
| 11:28.59 | Tekkub | so it's ... 21, "Blah", 23, "Meh", 24, "Go fuck yourself" ? |
| 11:29.08 | Orionshock | no, |
| 11:29.11 | Zhinjio | won't it be (i/2) |
| 11:29.20 | Orionshock | blah, 31, meh, 15, GTFO, 15 |
| 11:29.26 | Tekkub | you just said quest names were even |
| 11:29.30 | Tekkub | that's odd |
| 11:29.35 | Orionshock | .. sorry trying to raid at the same time |
| 11:29.59 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastey.net/76728 |
| 11:30.10 | Arrowmaster | if its 21, "Blah", 23, "Meh", 24, "Go fuck yourself", then you could also adjust the for loop |
| 11:30.23 | Tekkub | seriously, 98% of the time, if you think you need {f()}... you're doing it wrong |
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| 11:30.24 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceGUI-3.0: |
| 11:30.24 | CIA-7 | * Remove unused elements from files. |
| 11:30.41 | Tekkub | the _ONLY ONLY ONLY_ time you need that is if you're saving those values for later use |
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| 11:31.48 | Orionshock | Tekkub: i hope u don't talk like u type... |
| 11:32.00 | Arrowmaster | wait why the fuck are we doing /2 |
| 11:32.10 | Fisker- | i always yell underscore only only only underscore |
| 11:32.11 | Tekkub | second quest is i == 3 |
| 11:32.17 | Tekkub | third is i == 5 |
| 11:32.26 | Tekkub | (5+1)/2 == 3 |
| 11:32.43 | Zhinjio | I was hoping I wasn't talking out of school on that one. |
| 11:32.48 | Tekkub | and of course I do orion |
| 11:33.02 | Tekkub | question is, do I pronounce "!" as "BAM" |
| 11:33.17 | Zhinjio | I always called it "bang" |
| 11:33.18 | Tekkub | WHAT THE FUCK BAM! |
| 11:33.27 | Zhinjio | when I had to speak it. |
| 11:33.32 | sylvanaar_work | splat |
| 11:33.44 | Tekkub | and god damnit orion, it's half an hour past when I wanted to make be sleep |
| 11:33.44 | Zhinjio | bang slash bin slash bash, eg. |
| 11:33.51 | Tekkub | and I've not done what I wanted to |
| 11:33.55 | Zhinjio | er, bang hash... w/e |
| 11:34.05 | Zhinjio | I'm barely coherent right now. |
| 11:34.25 | Arrowmaster | bang hash? |
| 11:34.34 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: /"out of school"/? |
| 11:34.35 | Arrowmaster | thats not the correct name |
| 11:34.39 | sylvanaar_work | i just got to work - wtf you bums haven't event gone to bed |
| 11:34.49 | Arrowmaster | i never sleep |
| 11:35.50 | Zhinjio | hash bang, whatever. #!/bin/bash, eg |
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| 11:35.55 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/76729 untested and lack of sleep, results may vary from intentions |
| 11:36.03 | Arrowmaster | its not hash bang |
| 11:36.14 | Arrowmaster | #! has a special name! |
| 11:36.28 | Orionshock | no no returning the ... |
| 11:36.35 | Zhinjio | enlighten me, please. I haven't been doing this for 20 years or anything. |
| 11:37.01 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29 |
| 11:37.32 | Zhinjio | from that page: "a shebang (also called a hashbang, hashpling, or pound bang)" |
| 11:37.39 | Arrowmaster | diacf |
| 11:37.41 | Zhinjio | so, uh .. yeah. |
| 11:37.53 | Arrowmaster | its a shebang |
| 11:38.21 | Orionshock | ok, any difference between a nested table - ie : a = { b = true , c = true , d = true, e ={ } } and just making e it's own table? |
| 11:38.37 | Orionshock | other than the sake of sanity? |
| 11:38.44 | Tekkub | define difference? |
| 11:39.08 | Orionshock | .. i guess if i did that i'd have have "/another table look up/" |
| 11:39.12 | sylvanaar_work | what would e be otherwise a local? |
| 11:39.17 | Orionshock | yes.. |
| 11:39.24 | Orionshock | .. so better to make a new table |
| 11:39.32 | Tekkub | the only "difference" I see at all is scope |
| 11:39.45 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.00 | Tekkub | oh and lookup inside the other table will be a super ultra tiny bit slightly slower |
| 11:40.43 | sylvanaar_work | if you always do a.e.whatever = |
| 11:41.41 | Orionshock | it'll be a, if quest.special[quest] then look up |
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| 11:42.11 | sylvanaar_work | oi |
| 11:42.16 | Orionshock | lol |
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| 11:42.26 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceGUI-3.0: |
| 11:42.26 | CIA-7 | * cleanups and tweaks in a few of the widgets |
| 11:42.28 | Orionshock | blame bilzzard's quest system it's all fubar'ed imo |
| 11:43.10 | Zhinjio | what has y'all experience been with gruul as far as raid dps is concerned? From what I'm seeing, until raid dps hits about.... 6500 or so, it isn't worth trying. |
| 11:43.41 | sylvanaar_work | its taking far too long for my stuff to arrive from my old house |
| 11:43.47 | sylvanaar_work | its been over a week |
| 11:45.39 | Punkie` | they had to get a crane out for Prat |
| 11:45.41 | Punkie` | p.s. joke |
| 11:49.42 | dieck | Zhinjio: Gruul: 3,415,000 HP. every 30 sec Grow, from 10 it gets annoying, from 15 on hard, I'll say 20 is unsurvivable for Gruul starting groups. Aim for 15, meaning 7.5k DPS |
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| 11:53.03 | Zhinjio | hmm. ok. Thats reasonable. tonight we pushed about 5650. thats way low. |
| 11:53.13 | Xinhuan | you possibly didn't stack groups properly |
| 11:53.26 | Xinhuan | like a 1 warrior 3 rogue 1 enhancement shaman group for melee dps |
| 11:53.40 | Xinhuan | spriest, 4 casters for range dps, etc |
| 11:53.47 | Xinhuan | or shaman with wrath of air totem |
| 11:54.00 | Zhinjio | it wasn't a great class mix. |
| 11:54.07 | Zhinjio | but it was stacked as well as it could have been, I thikn |
| 11:54.10 | Zhinjio | no spriest |
| 11:54.30 | Xinhuan | nah, half the silly guilds i see try to put "1 healer in every group" |
| 11:54.34 | Xinhuan | don't do that |
| 11:54.40 | Xinhuan | stack them up for raid benefit, not for positioning |
| 11:54.41 | Zhinjio | nah, we had one healing group, pretty much |
| 11:54.43 | Zhinjio | the healing was fine. |
| 11:54.53 | nondysjunction | Anyone have any experience with Bayi's extended questlog? |
| 11:55.21 | Zhinjio | we generally weren't losing healers during the fight. we may actually drop another one enxt time for more dps |
| 11:55.57 | Zhinjio | one enh.shammy |
| 11:55.57 | Higdur | how many were you runing? |
| 11:55.58 | Higdur | healers |
| 11:55.58 | Zhinjio | 25 |
| 11:55.58 | Zhinjio | oh... uh... one sec. |
| 11:56.04 | nondysjunction | One of the biggest mistakes new groups to gruul make is having too many healers in the raid. |
| 11:56.11 | Higdur | yeah |
| 11:56.20 | Zhinjio | 6 + me (prot pally). so 6 and a half. |
| 11:56.40 | Higdur | that should be fine |
| 11:56.51 | Zhinjio | 2 priests, 1 druid and 3.5 pallies |
| 11:57.26 | Zhinjio | they could probably do without me, honestly. I'm not much help tanking gruul, so its somewhat of a wasted spot |
| 11:57.47 | nondysjunction | so I'm using Bayi's extended questlog, and the tracker resets position every time I relog... anyone know how I can fix this maybe? |
| 11:57.51 | Zhinjio | feral druid was soaking the hurtful thing, solid warrior tanking, with one more warrior for backup |
| 11:57.54 | Zhinjio | the rest dps |
| 11:58.20 | Higdur | sounds fine imo, maybe dropping the extra prot warrior |
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| 11:59.02 | Zhinjio | I think the main thing is that we're still farming kara for gear, and there's a bunch that people could be doing for getting proper enchants/gems in place. |
| 11:59.12 | Zhinjio | we're starting to go through everyone now to help fine tune |
| 11:59.20 | Higdur | you should be able to keep the tank up a long time, and even if he dies at <20% teh druid can tank him fine until he dies |
| 11:59.31 | Zhinjio | not sure thats going to make up a 1900 raid dps difference, but you gotta start somewhere |
| 11:59.41 | Higdur | just have the top rogue pop evasion |
| 11:59.49 | Zhinjio | lowest we got him was 24% at 15 grows |
| 11:59.53 | Xinhuan | oh it does, if everyone is missing 1 dps enchant, that's like 3-5% dps |
| 11:59.56 | Higdur | potting? |
| 12:00.13 | Xinhuan | potting helps too |
| 12:00.21 | Xinhuan | get your tank to eat a ironshield potion at 30% |
| 12:00.33 | Xinhuan | will reduce damage by ~1k per hit |
| 12:00.47 | Higdur | and have a pally pop LoH |
| 12:00.54 | Higdur | for even more |
| 12:01.00 | Xinhuan | that too |
| 12:01.11 | Higdur | one with improved LoH that is |
| 12:01.32 | dieck | Potting is neccessary, and also very cheap at gruul, using the Blade Edge flasks |
| 12:01.58 | Higdur | yeah, they work |
| 12:02.00 | Zhinjio | yeah, everyone has flasks |
| 12:02.05 | Zhinjio | damn cheap, no question |
| 12:02.10 | Higdur | even higher dps from the normal pots though |
| 12:02.24 | Higdur | but dirt cheap to grab the flasks |
| 12:03.50 | nondysjunction | So, what quest addons do you guys use? |
| 12:04.02 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna cut/paste this conversation and post to our officer's forum. if noone has any objections. |
| 12:04.25 | Higdur | go ahead |
| 12:04.39 | Xinhuan | do you have dps dying midfight? |
| 12:04.48 | Xinhuan | like repositioning gruul because of cavein |
| 12:05.18 | Higdur | noone should ever die before the MT really |
| 12:05.49 | nondysjunction | If people die before the MT, they're probably slackers, or had REALLY bad luck with shatters. |
| 12:05.49 | Zhinjio | I think people are still getting used to managing shatters |
| 12:05.49 | Diao | even repositioning him |
| 12:05.55 | Zhinjio | thats what is ultimately killing us |
| 12:05.55 | Diao | you shouldn't be dying o_O |
| 12:06.07 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.35 | Diao | also, try to stack ranged dps (preferably lock/spri) for your first kill ;p |
| 12:06.41 | Higdur | Zhinjio: then that's probably one of your biggest problems |
| 12:06.46 | Higdur | yeah |
| 12:06.49 | Diao | they do some ridiculous damage while moving around to avoid stuff |
| 12:06.52 | Higdur | do bring spriests |
| 12:06.53 | Diao | because of dots ticking |
| 12:07.06 | Zhinjio | gruul's hitbox is really huge too. even the melee behind him should be able to maneouver around a cave-in |
| 12:07.10 | Higdur | dots ticking and the mages will need mana |
| 12:07.16 | Diao | well |
| 12:07.24 | Diao | the more melee you have the more it becomes a problem |
| 12:07.28 | Zhinjio | agreed |
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| 12:07.33 | Zhinjio | we had... um... |
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| 12:07.35 | dieck | we have our dd go away from gruul when shatters coming up, 3-5sec before it. That'll loose you some dps, but they'll not drop in the healer or tank on shatter |
| 12:07.46 | Orionshock | anyone know the command to disable the synch feature of swstats |
| 12:07.48 | Diao | also |
| 12:07.48 | Orionshock | ? |
| 12:07.52 | Diao | we mark our healers with raid icons |
| 12:07.58 | Zhinjio | 3 rogues and 2 cats tonight |
| 12:07.59 | Diao | there isn't a way to disable it ingame afaik? |
| 12:08.02 | Zhinjio | so thats actually alot. |
| 12:08.19 | Diao | mark healers with raid icons so people know who to stay away from |
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| 12:08.35 | Diao | also priests can bubble people near them/themselves to eat part of the shatter damage |
| 12:08.45 | Zhinjio | all our healers were in one group, pretty much, and we arranged groups around gruul in a big 5 point star to help with shatters |
| 12:09.03 | Diao | well yeah |
| 12:09.07 | Zhinjio | I was in that group. I don't think I was ever close to more than one person |
| 12:09.07 | Diao | but melee get tossed around a lot |
| 12:09.10 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 12:09.11 | Zhinjio | true |
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| 12:09.39 | Diao | i dunno |
| 12:09.43 | Diao | my guild has a problem with priests |
| 12:09.53 | Diao | we use resto druids over holy priest for gruul |
| 12:10.02 | Diao | for some reason our holy priests die every gruul attempt from shatter |
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| 12:10.05 | Diao | lol |
| 12:10.17 | vhaarr | because they all have the nub sets from tailoring |
| 12:10.20 | vhaarr | with NO +stamina |
| 12:10.30 | Diao | actually they're all fairly well stamina geared |
| 12:10.33 | Diao | we have them wear pvp/arena gear |
| 12:10.43 | Diao | so they've got like 8-9k unbuffed hp |
| 12:10.46 | vhaarr | then they just need to find their jump key and l2p |
| 12:10.50 | Diao | lol |
| 12:10.56 | [Ammo] | hahah indeed |
| 12:11.16 | vhaarr | I never died as priest on gruul except on wipes |
| 12:11.17 | Diao | but having 3 resto druids |
| 12:11.21 | Diao | on gruul is amazing |
| 12:11.32 | Diao | 9 stacks of lifebloom, 3 of rejuv and regrowth each |
| 12:11.35 | Diao | during a silence |
| 12:11.40 | Higdur | yeah |
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| 12:12.04 | Higdur | not that I can say that I've ever had more than 2 resto druids :) |
| 12:12.22 | Diao | lol |
| 12:12.31 | Higdur | but rogues do not get slowed by the ground slam |
| 12:12.36 | Diao | well |
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| 12:12.39 | Diao | they do every other one |
| 12:12.42 | Higdur | so it should be really easy for them to avoid shatters |
| 12:12.44 | Diao | just not when clos is up ;p |
| 12:12.50 | Higdur | true |
| 12:13.09 | Higdur | but isn't the cd short enough to have it every time? |
| 12:13.25 | Diao | 1 min? |
| 12:13.58 | Higdur | shatters come about every min too right? |
| 12:14.01 | Zhinjio | I actually wish I could get in there and tank him. I'm about 2% from being uncrushable. |
| 12:14.10 | Zhinjio | and maybe a bit more stam, I think I could do it. |
| 12:14.13 | Diao | around there i guess |
| 12:14.16 | Higdur | Zhinjio: gogo :) |
| 12:14.19 | Diao | i'm kinda surprised |
| 12:14.22 | Diao | cause every guide i've read |
| 12:14.31 | Diao | says guilds should be killing him around 16-17 growths |
| 12:14.37 | Higdur | :s |
| 12:14.39 | Diao | but my guild downed him in like |
| 12:14.41 | Diao | 11 growths |
| 12:14.47 | Diao | on our 3rd try |
| 12:15.06 | vhaarr | 16-17 is too much |
| 12:15.11 | Higdur | our tanks tend to get randomly gibbed if we go above 13-14 or so |
| 12:15.14 | vhaarr | I would say 12-13 is more common |
| 12:15.15 | Diao | same |
| 12:15.23 | Diao | at like |
| 12:15.24 | Higdur | though lately we're taking him in 11 or so |
| 12:15.27 | Diao | 30% i generally ironshield |
| 12:15.35 | Diao | 25% i pop my moroes trinket |
| 12:15.39 | Diao | 20% i last stand |
| 12:15.43 | Diao | and then we burn him down from there |
| 12:15.44 | Diao | lol |
| 12:15.46 | Orionshock | does this work? |
| 12:15.48 | Orionshock | function mod["Yarzill the Merc"](mod) |
| 12:15.55 | Higdur | 10% you pray :) |
| 12:16.10 | vhaarr | mod["Yarzill the Merc"] = function(mod) ... end |
| 12:16.13 | [Ammo] | if you have mod["Yarzill the Merc"] = function( self, .... ) end |
| 12:16.21 | Orionshock | thought so |
| 12:16.30 | Higdur | Zhinjio: make sure that you have any dps warriors use intercept on the MT during the silences from 25%ish or so |
| 12:16.47 | Higdur | so he doesn't get gibbed while the healers are silenced |
| 12:17.10 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r54093 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: stop armored man from bouncing back into it's original position. Try this one JoshBorke. |
| 12:17.58 | Higdur | and switch on a shield before hand |
| 12:18.25 | Diao | intervene* |
| 12:18.40 | Higdur | yeah |
| 12:18.49 | Orionshock | fk.. ok that's more complicat then i expected... |
| 12:19.04 | Higdur | the dps may get 1-shotted, but better than the tank dying :) |
| 12:19.14 | Diao | losing dps warriors below 20% |
| 12:19.16 | Diao | is very painful though |
| 12:19.27 | Diao | deathwish recklessness execute with 2 fast weapons |
| 12:19.31 | Diao | is very very very very high dps |
| 12:19.53 | Higdur | indeed |
| 12:20.04 | Higdur | it depends what growth you're at |
| 12:20.09 | Diao | yeah |
| 12:20.14 | Diao | also |
| 12:20.21 | Higdur | if the MT drops the dps warriors will die in any case though |
| 12:20.23 | Diao | apparently shatter varies from 45-120sec |
| 12:20.36 | Diao | so rogues can't necessarily clos all of it |
| 12:21.18 | Diao | sigh, stupid warriors ftl > http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765962582&sid=1 |
| 12:21.42 | Higdur | Diao: almost all in any case |
| 12:22.18 | nondysjunction | heh, anyone know of a good resource on lua scripting? |
| 12:22.29 | Codayus | Diao: I know your problem. You're reading the official forums. :-) |
| 12:23.46 | JoshBorke | ~pil |
| 12:23.47 | purl | well, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 12:25.38 | Diao | lol |
| 12:25.42 | Diao | it's entertaining |
| 12:25.45 | Diao | that's why i read them :D |
| 12:25.57 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:26.05 | Codayus | For certain values of "entertaining", sure... |
| 12:26.25 | Zhinjio | thanks for all the advice, guys. |
| 12:26.56 | Orionshock | so we're on the mobs just after opera, and i say over vent "Now the goal here is not to die", and as i say it i proxy pull 2 groups and wipe the raid... |
| 12:27.17 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: it's faster to run back and go in the side entrance :) |
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| 12:27.42 | Orionshock | true, but it's 10g for each elite there. |
| 12:27.45 | Codayus | Orion: For some reason, my guild has serious problems with the first pull of TK trash. Not the rest, just that one. Wipes the last two weeks. |
| 12:27.47 | Orionshock | that's 1g each |
| 12:27.54 | Codayus | This week, we gave a little speech about it. |
| 12:28.17 | Codayus | Then, during the fight, I warned everyone the patrol was headed back, warned people to move back... |
| 12:28.22 | Codayus | ....we wiped. |
| 12:28.48 | Orionshock | & i realized that im going to have to completely reformat my addon in order to do what i want it to... |
| 12:28.50 | Orionshock | FK |
| 12:28.52 | Orionshock | FK! |
| 12:29.19 | Codayus | Something about the act of saying "don't wipe to X" on Vent seems to cause it. :-( |
| 12:29.25 | Diao | lol |
| 12:29.34 | Orionshock | murphy's law |
| 12:29.59 | Orionshock | ~murphy's law |
| 12:30.00 | purl | In a voice like thunder, Edward A. Murphy proclaimed, "If there are two or more ways to do something and one of those results in catastrophe, then someone will do it that way." This is the True and Original version of Murphy's Law. (see Finagle's Law) |
| 12:30.22 | Orionshock | ~Finagle's Law |
| 12:30.23 | purl | hmm... finagle's law is "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time." |
| 12:31.01 | Orionshock | ~occam's razor |
| 12:31.07 | Orionshock | :| |
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| 12:40.43 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54094 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 12:40.43 | CIA-7 | Waterfall-1.0 : |
| 12:40.43 | CIA-7 | - DragLink: Change to a table data structure |
| 12:40.43 | CIA-7 | - Upgrade to LibBabble-Spell-3.0 for spell icon lookup |
| 12:40.43 | CIA-7 | - Save spell name, rank & class for type = "spell" |
| 12:40.44 | CIA-7 | - This allows for spell display no matter which class produced it. |
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| 12:44.04 | Zhinjio | I'm just coming to realize that maintaining sync'd data between many simultaneously copies of an addon is kind of like maintaining transactional integrity across sync'd relational databases. |
| 12:44.12 | cncfanatics | hello people |
| 12:44.23 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure why that didn't occur to me before. |
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| 12:47.40 | Zhinjio | especially when I intend to "key" the syncronization off a sequential number for each transaction or event. |
| 12:48.41 | Zhinjio | makes me wish for having had just a touch more dba training that I have had. |
| 12:48.54 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54095 10AutoBar/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:48.54 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 12:48.54 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.24 beta () |
| 12:48.54 | CIA-7 | -- Poisons added to crafting button. Note that Alchemy button just will not & can not work for now so its commented out. |
| 12:48.54 | CIA-7 | -- Fixed an issue where skinning stops for buttons after disabled buttons after a reload. |
| 12:48.55 | CIA-7 | -- Fix issue where disabling buttons makes bar disapear after relog. |
| 12:48.59 | CIA-7 | -- Fixed an issue with enabling a button after login needing a couple of extra clicks on enable to show up. |
| 12:49.58 | Grum | Any healing priest in here ever tried a 31/30/0 spec? |
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| 12:50.06 | Kerafyrm | Grum |
| 12:50.08 | Kerafyrm | Using it now |
| 12:50.45 | Grum | is it worth it? |
| 12:51.00 | Kerafyrm | I'm pleased with it |
| 12:51.21 | Grum | will be using: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxxhzhxtbzZfhtcc0aV |
| 12:51.34 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | grum, plan on updating routes soon? ^^ |
| 12:51.58 | Grum | oowww need time :( |
| 12:52.04 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | been 4 weeks |
| 12:52.08 | Grum | i know |
| 12:52.37 | Grum | 2x double bday, 1x started but no inspiration to finish .. and then this weekend :D |
| 12:52.44 | Kerafyrm | mines a little different then what you have there |
| 12:52.52 | Kerafyrm | http://wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Kurz |
| 12:52.53 | Grum | can you link it? (armory?) |
| 12:54.08 | Grum | humz how can you not take the 0.5s GH? :/ :D |
| 12:55.24 | Kerafyrm | cuz we have a very active resto druid(actually 2) |
| 12:55.39 | Kerafyrm | and .1s isn't a deal breaker |
| 12:55.44 | Orionshock | grate... |
| 12:55.52 | Orionshock | . i hate locale |
| 12:55.56 | Orionshock | . i hate locale'ing things |
| 12:56.32 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 12:56.38 | JoshBorke | it's very very easy |
| 12:56.42 | Grum | Kerafyrm: mmm also 4/5 spiritual guidance and 5/5 spiritual healing vs 5/5 and 4/5 for you |
| 12:56.45 | Orionshock | complicates shit |
| 12:56.45 | Grum | mmm |
| 12:56.46 | Orionshock | ... |
| 12:56.50 | JoshBorke | how so? |
| 12:57.19 | Grum | it does |
| 12:57.19 | Orionshock | xpecialy when ur doing a table with locales in them |
| 12:57.19 | Grum | hehe indeed |
| 12:57.19 | Kerafyrm | like i said.. subtle differences |
| 12:57.19 | Grum | Kerafyrm: mm curious now |
| 12:57.20 | JoshBorke | tbl[L["My localisation"]] = L["another localisation"] |
| 12:57.20 | Grum | did you calculate that point? |
| 12:57.36 | Orionshock | ya JoshBorke i know.. i just don't want to do that :\ |
| 12:57.50 | Orionshock | makes the file un unnecessarily longer... |
| 12:58.03 | JoshBorke | i even wrote a grep string to tell me when I hadn't encapsulated strings |
| 12:58.16 | Kerafyrm | naw |
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| 12:58.27 | Orionshock | i think i'll wait for Ace3 to do what im thinking about... |
| 12:58.30 | JoshBorke | unnecessarily longer? o.O i guess if you're concerned about file length then it is an issue |
| 12:58.39 | Grum | ~1900 healing ... ~600 spirit that would mean: 24 healing for the last point in spi guidance and 2% of total healing would be .. |
| 12:58.42 | Grum | humz |
| 12:58.45 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: what is Ace3 going to give you that you can't do with Ace2? |
| 12:59.02 | Orionshock | im not concerned , im irrationally paranoid |
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| 12:59.27 | Orionshock | because the locale aspect of ace3 is far more intelegent than the ace2 version |
| 12:59.38 | Grum | on a flashheal noncrit .. ~2500 avg |
| 12:59.39 | Kerafyrm | yer obviously a little better geared then i |
| 12:59.41 | dreamss | 38? |
| 13:00.00 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: why not just do teh localisation yourself then? |
| 13:00.05 | Orionshock | and while i understand Ace3Locale methods - im far too lazy to "Copy and Paste" atm |
| 13:00.06 | Grum | 2% of that would be 50 .. which would be ~120+healing orso |
| 13:00.26 | Grum | so i'd say 5/5 in spiritual healing is better :D |
| 13:00.35 | Orionshock | because the way i need to do it - it wouldn't work.. |
| 13:00.51 | Kerafyrm | i'm only at 478Spirit and ~1800healing thou.. :P |
| 13:00.57 | vhaarr | I have sacrificed ~400 healing on my priest to gain 100 spirit, so I'm around 1700 healing and 700 spirit in raids. |
| 13:01.01 | Grum | numbers still apply then Kerafyrm |
| 13:01.05 | Orionshock | the way i have to do it is the nested tbl = { [L["BS"]] = something else... ) |
| 13:01.19 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: is that while defining it or what? |
| 13:01.22 | sb | vhaarr: mhhh wtb :/ |
| 13:01.26 | Grum | even more in favor of spirtual healing |
| 13:01.38 | vhaarr | spirit is the only stat that matters once you reach 1500 healing |
| 13:01.46 | Kerafyrm | agreed |
| 13:01.53 | sb | mh what about mp5? |
| 13:01.57 | vhaarr | useless |
| 13:02.00 | sb | why? |
| 13:02.01 | dreamss | priest dont do mp5 |
| 13:02.03 | dreamss | shamans do |
| 13:02.04 | Grum | i complete disagree with that |
| 13:02.10 | dreamss | pallies? |
| 13:02.21 | Grum | it all depends on the amount you spend inside FSR |
| 13:02.25 | dreamss | spi = + healing and major regen due talents |
| 13:02.26 | Orionshock | hehe.... the mod im writing is for lazy people, but it's overly complicated... all it's desined to do is to pick up your daily quests and turn them in.. that's it ; nothing special |
| 13:02.29 | Speeddymon | anyone know of a good way to get the decimal part of a number? (say I divide 456 by 50, and the result is 9.12, and I just want the .12 part) |
| 13:02.56 | Grum | Speeddymon: 456 mod 50 / 50 |
| 13:03.15 | Grum | or 456 / 50 - floor(456/50) |
| 13:03.26 | Srosh | lua> 456 mod 50 |
| 13:03.26 | cladbot | Srosh: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "456 mod 50"]:1: unexpected symbol near '456' |
| 13:03.29 | Speeddymon | #2 should work |
| 13:03.30 | Speeddymon | thx |
| 13:03.34 | Srosh | Heh. |
| 13:03.35 | Tse | dammit, pitbull just lost ALL settings |
| 13:03.37 | Tse | guh |
| 13:03.39 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_addon_easily |
| 13:03.45 | Grum | lua> 456 % 50 |
| 13:03.45 | cladbot | Grum: 6 |
| 13:03.49 | Grum | lua> 456 % 50 / 50 |
| 13:03.50 | cladbot | Grum: 0.12 |
| 13:03.51 | Orionshock | yes im familiar with that entry |
| 13:04.01 | JoshBorke | that's all AceLocale is |
| 13:04.04 | Orionshock | just wanted to avoid it |
| 13:04.05 | Srosh | Ah, ye, % was the symbol. |
| 13:04.13 | JoshBorke | except you have to define each entry in the table individually |
| 13:04.13 | Grum | lua> 456 % 50 / 50 , 456/50 - math.floor(456/50) |
| 13:04.13 | cladbot | Grum: 0.12, 0.12 |
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| 13:04.51 | Grum | vhaarr: can you explain the 'int > *' after 1500 healing |
| 13:04.53 | Orionshock | i was perfectly fine and dandy with dictionary table lookups, where all u had to do to get french working is add the localized quest title and npc to the Same table as the rest and it'd still work.. |
| 13:05.11 | Grum | and what would your time spend in FSR be? |
| 13:05.21 | Grum | Orionshock: but that is still the same right? |
| 13:05.25 | Grum | i dont really get your problem |
| 13:05.28 | Kerafyrm | he said spirit > * when > 1500 healing |
| 13:05.29 | Kerafyrm | i think |
| 13:05.35 | Grum | erm spi indeed |
| 13:05.37 | Grum | oopsie |
| 13:05.49 | Orionshock | no it's not the same |
| 13:06.10 | Orionshock | i need more time to think bout the logic here... |
| 13:06.18 | JoshBorke | i'm confused what you want orionshock |
| 13:06.22 | Grum | the thing is you do: tbl = { [L["BS"]] = something else... ) |
| 13:06.25 | sb | well i'd prefer mp5 when spamming FH :/ |
| 13:06.29 | Grum | where you s hould do: tbl = { ["BS"] = something else... ) |
| 13:06.39 | Grum | but when you display it: L["BS"] |
| 13:06.53 | dieck | sb: depends on class :) my priest is a huge fan of spirit, which no pally can understand ;) |
| 13:06.54 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | both are syntactically correct |
| 13:07.04 | Grum | you have to make a seperation between data and display |
| 13:07.09 | sb | well FH = flash heal = priest ;p |
| 13:07.27 | Orionshock | hehe.. im trying to avoid localizing the addon by keeping shit generic; when in fact i should just brake down and localize the bitch |
| 13:07.42 | Grum | if you store all your data in 'english' then you only have to worry about localization when you are doing displaying |
| 13:08.00 | dieck | sb: yes, i know :) but i don't spam FH, our pallies spam. We priests handle the BIG ones :) |
| 13:08.01 | Speeddymon | lua> 13 % 2609 |
| 13:08.02 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 13 |
| 13:08.06 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: how can you not localize if the quest names are localized? |
| 13:08.07 | Speeddymon | lua> 13 % 2609 / 13 |
| 13:08.07 | Orionshock | 95% of all blizard return values are in the client locale |
| 13:08.07 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 1 |
| 13:08.15 | Speeddymon | lua> 13 % 2609 / 50 |
| 13:08.15 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 0.26 |
| 13:08.40 | Orionshock | i do a if quests[GetTitleText()] then ... |
| 13:08.46 | Grum | Orionshock: if you have localized input then before you store it or use it as lookup key you 'de-localize' it |
| 13:08.51 | Speeddymon | lua> (13 / 2609) - math.floor(13 / 2609) |
| 13:08.51 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 0.0049827520122652 |
| 13:08.53 | Grum | you shouldn't do that Orionshock |
| 13:09.03 | Orionshock | works just fine ... |
| 13:09.16 | Grum | sure but when you then swtich to an english client it will not work anymore |
| 13:09.22 | Speeddymon | lua> 13 / 2609 |
| 13:09.22 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 0.0049827520122652 |
| 13:09.27 | Orionshock | if i use it more than 2wice with in the same function then i local it first |
| 13:09.28 | JoshBorke | as long as the quests are all in the table thta would work |
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| 13:09.37 | Speeddymon | lua> 13 % 2609 / 2609 |
| 13:09.38 | cladbot | Speeddymon: 0.0049827520122652 |
| 13:09.49 | JoshBorke | Speeddymon: please join #luabot |
| 13:09.51 | Orionshock | Grum: right - i don't have to do the L["SomeQuestText"] local methods. |
| 13:09.53 | Grum | Speeddymon: it doesnt work for you if you do a/b when a<b |
| 13:10.14 | Tse | damn, this latest pitbull seems way buggy |
| 13:10.18 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: and that is the intent... well i want to keep it that way.. |
| 13:10.22 | Speeddymon | heh i was just playin around tbh |
| 13:10.32 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: AceLocale-3.0 isn't going to help that |
| 13:10.34 | Grum | JoshBorke: the problem is if you use a questname (localized) as a key in a SV table then you can not see/use it when you switch to english |
| 13:10.40 | Grum | sure it will still work |
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| 13:10.49 | Lothaer | so 2.3 next week yay |
| 13:10.57 | Grum | but the idea of localization is that you should be able to change it at any time without getting broken data |
| 13:10.59 | JoshBorke | grum: correct, if you do any sort of saving of the localized quest names you're fubared |
| 13:11.02 | Orionshock | Grum: yes it will work, you just have to add the title to the table |
| 13:11.23 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: he's saying without localizing you will not be able to correlate the english quest name to the french quest name |
| 13:11.31 | Grum | yup |
| 13:11.39 | JoshBorke | s/french/other localisation/ |
| 13:11.45 | Orionshock | right ; but i don't care about coralation |
| 13:11.50 | Orionshock | it's quite irrelavant |
| 13:11.51 | Zhinjio | ah, it must be morning. Getting some idiots out here interrupting my farming spot. |
| 13:12.04 | JoshBorke | so you're not saving anything in a saved variable then it doesn't matter |
| 13:12.17 | Orionshock | no |
| 13:12.18 | Grum | you have: "La tour de Shattrath" as index where it should have been "Tour of Shattrath" - the problem might be that you can not - 'delocalize' some of the data because there are no libraries for it (or no way to ask the client for the english localization) |
| 13:13.00 | Grum | and pardon my broken french - i dont speak it ^^ |
| 13:13.00 | JoshBorke | grum: but he doesn't need to correlate them |
| 13:13.00 | Grum | then his addon will be broken |
| 13:13.00 | Orionshock | it's a simple mod; you right click on the npc - it checks the npc, the quests and if it finds the npc and the quest in the table then it clicks though all the gossip and you can move on to doing the quest |
| 13:13.00 | Grum | or 'half implemented' |
| 13:13.06 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:13.07 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbXfF7ZtPg |
| 13:13.31 | Orionshock | nothing to save |
| 13:13.43 | Grum | Orionshock: so your problem is now that when you get the 'quest identifier string' you get localized data |
| 13:14.05 | Grum | but you still have to recognize it |
| 13:14.37 | JoshBorke | so if he puts all the quest names into a single table he'll be able to recognize them |
| 13:14.41 | Orionshock | no the problem im running into is that if i want to add the netherwing quests in an intelegent fasion i have to localize the bitch in a classic format because there are 2 npc's that have 2-3 quests each and not everyone even does both/3 quests on each npc |
| 13:14.52 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 13:15.14 | Grum | you were making an auto-handin/tracker for dailies right? |
| 13:15.36 | Orionshock | because the killing the peon's quest is asinine, and the egg hunt is handled by automation; and it shits a brick when u do the crystals quest but not the gathering one.... |
| 13:16.46 | Diao | not everyone has a gathering profession too |
| 13:17.07 | Diao | and you have to check for all 3 iirc |
| 13:17.22 | Orionshock | so i got this intelegent idea to do another table look up in the event handler to a) check the npc to see if we care b) get the function handler for that NPC and then call it... but that dosn't wquite work because then the escort quest will prolly shit a brick too >.- |
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| 13:17.51 | Orionshock | and the escort quest is the only one that has any reward to choose from and the rest are all just gold |
| 13:17.58 | Grum | i'm really sorry - i dont get the problem you are having so i cant help you :/ |
| 13:18.34 | JoshBorke | yea, i don't get the problem at all |
| 13:18.48 | Orionshock | the problem.. i don't want it to pick up the first quest - or the last quest, on one NPC but have some way of thwoing a bolen value to do that |
| 13:19.09 | Orionshock | then on the other to do the same and hand them in w/o shittng a brick.. |
| 13:19.22 | JoshBorke | MyQuests[<quest name>] = true/false |
| 13:19.29 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.29 | Grum | wait - 2 seperate issues here |
| 13:19.35 | JoshBorke | true = do it, false = don't do it |
| 13:19.41 | Grum | you want to auto accept a quest on a certain NPC (and that isnt working nicely?) |
| 13:19.43 | JoshBorke | users edit the file for what they want to do and not do |
| 13:19.47 | Grum | and you want to auto-turnin a quest |
| 13:20.24 | Grum | this is not related to localization yet from my pov |
| 13:20.28 | Orionshock | if i have a func for each NPC and then pass the event i can do an if then else check like a poor man event handler but then i'd have to add in a fucn for each npc |
| 13:20.43 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 13:20.47 | Grum | why have a func for each npc? |
| 13:20.52 | JoshBorke | you could have a single function that takes in the npc as a parameter |
| 13:20.58 | Grum | indeed |
| 13:21.19 | Grum | and then just do: data[ npc ][ quest ] = true/false |
| 13:21.27 | Grum | but again |
| 13:21.30 | Grum | why store the NPC at all? |
| 13:21.37 | Orionshock | right but unless i localize the table it's not simple |
| 13:21.40 | Grum | do you need the NPC to be able to access the quests? |
| 13:21.46 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.48 | Grum | it is |
| 13:21.55 | Grum | as you just said you dont care for people switching languages |
| 13:21.59 | Grum | so just do it in localized data |
| 13:22.05 | JoshBorke | do any 2 NPC's have the exact same quest names? |
| 13:22.13 | Orionshock | yes 1 |
| 13:22.18 | Grum | the only downside of that is that you will need to know 'what the quest is that needs certain userinput' (for the reward selection) |
| 13:22.34 | Orionshock | the skettis escort quest is picked up at one npc and turned in at another. |
| 13:22.48 | Orionshock | Grum: actualy i have that covered... |
| 13:23.15 | JoshBorke | so, i'm confused, how do picking up a quest and turning in a quest interact? |
| 13:23.27 | Orionshock | i can't viably do data[npc][quest] w/o localizing both the NPC key and the quest key |
| 13:23.27 | Wobin | hm, I've always wanted to know, with the skettis escort, do you have to be next to him at the end to get job done? |
| 13:23.33 | Grum | Orionshock: you can |
| 13:23.43 | Grum | well you cant |
| 13:23.45 | Orionshock | Grum: don't want to - that's the point |
| 13:23.49 | Grum | ok |
| 13:23.51 | Grum | what is the setup |
| 13:24.04 | Toadkiller | Wobin: you need to be within some radius or you lose the quest |
| 13:24.09 | Grum | the client can select per NPC/Quest what to do? (autohanding/autotake/auto select reward ?) |
| 13:24.10 | Toadkiller | just like any escort... |
| 13:24.15 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: nearly the same events - 2 of them are different at one point |
| 13:24.33 | Wobin | Toadkiller: ah, cause i'd seen people buggering off before he reached the end |
| 13:24.35 | Wobin | and was wondering |
| 13:24.38 | JoshBorke | QUEST_ACCEPT_CONFIRM and QUEST_COMPLETE? |
| 13:24.44 | Orionshock | grum: shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDaiilys |
| 13:24.48 | Orionshock | grum: shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys |
| 13:25.03 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: that and they both share GOSSIP_SHOW |
| 13:25.14 | Orionshock | and that was a bitch to un screw to what it is now... |
| 13:25.25 | dreamss | dosent automaton do all quest turnin? |
| 13:25.39 | Orionshock | learned alot about what exactly happens when u do a 'if func() then " call |
| 13:25.45 | Orionshock | dreamss: no |
| 13:25.53 | Orionshock | only on quests that are insta-turn in |
| 13:26.00 | JoshBorke | wait one week and come back to it |
| 13:26.03 | Orionshock | ones that don't actualy get put into the quest log |
| 13:26.25 | dreamss | autoturnin? |
| 13:26.26 | JoshBorke | because it will change come 2.3 |
| 13:26.38 | Grum | Orionshock: nothing special happens if you do that right? |
| 13:26.40 | Orionshock | no it won |
| 13:26.43 | Orionshock | no it won't |
| 13:26.46 | Grum | you will just call the function and thats it :D |
| 13:26.49 | dreamss | i know ace has a quest turnin addon |
| 13:27.16 | JoshBorke | When you speak with an NPC with a single function (Banker, Flight Master, Etc) and who has no other gossip options or quests you will go straight to their functional pane rather than to the gossip pane. Most importantly this means that clicking on a flight master will bring up the flight path map directly rather than the gossip pane with the option to bring up the flight path map. |
| 13:27.46 | Orionshock | JoshBorke: that changes almost nothing |
| 13:28.08 | Orionshock | that just means that for npc's with a single quest open to the 2nd page |
| 13:28.17 | Grum | which is actually worse from a coders PoV |
| 13:28.22 | Grum | because now you have to cover 2 states ;) |
| 13:28.24 | Orionshock | as if u clicked on the quest on the first page |
| 13:29.30 | Orionshock | like i said if i wait till ace3locale comes out i can just use it and do a localized nested table like i should do... |
| 13:29.55 | Orionshock | b/c ace2 locale is just BS and overly complicated |
| 13:30.18 | Wobin | well you -could- use AceLocale-3.0 |
| 13:30.30 | Wobin | it's not much, aside from a convinence |
| 13:31.14 | Orionshock | i know what it's doing, it's just doing it for me in a rather predictable, reliable way... |
| 13:32.14 | JoshBorke | Orionshock: like i said earlier, AceLocale-3 is actually worse than the wowwiki article |
| 13:32.58 | Orionshock | that may be true; but if i use the method in the wiki; it's more work for me in the end than just being cheep and using AceLocale-2 |
| 13:33.02 | Orionshock | *3 |
| 13:33.25 | Orionshock | i might eventualy convert over but .... |
| 13:33.30 | Orionshock | don't care too much atm |
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| 13:33.32 | CIA-7 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 13:33.32 | CIA-7 | - fix zhtw |
| 13:34.38 | JoshBorke | i retract my previous statement. i don't actually understand how you plan to use AceLocale-3.0 such that it will fix whatever setup you have |
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| 13:37.45 | Nefarion | i have a question |
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| 13:38.49 | Nefarion | what's the purpose of ipairs? i just did a test and (using all local calls) iterating on an array (including creating a local var for V and checking if that's nil) takes about half the amount of time as iterating on it with ipairs... |
| 13:39.19 | Nefarion | with a generic for |
| 13:39.31 | JoshBorke | ~pil |
| 13:39.33 | purl | rumour has it, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 13:40.06 | Nefarion | i've read through all the shit on iterators and ipairs. i see no functionality loss but i expected it to be the faster route. |
| 13:40.06 | JoshBorke | http://www.lua.org/pil/7.3.html |
| 13:40.16 | JoshBorke | why do you expect it to be faster than pairs? |
| 13:40.29 | JoshBorke | or iterating yourself? |
| 13:40.31 | Nefarion | it *was* faster than ipairs. ipairs was the slow one. |
| 13:40.50 | JoshBorke | you were expecting ipairs to be faster than pairs? |
| 13:40.58 | Nefarion | half was a bit of an overstatement but the generic for loop was significantly faster. |
| 13:41.01 | Nefarion | no |
| 13:41.13 | JoshBorke | you were expecting ipairs to be faster than for i=1,#tbl do? |
| 13:41.23 | Nefarion | for i = 1,#t do local v = t[i]; if v == nil then return end; ... end; -- that's faster |
| 13:41.44 | JoshBorke | because you're not invoking a call to an iterator |
| 13:42.04 | Nefarion | but in that case the use of ipairs seems...pointless other than ease of writing it |
| 13:42.12 | JoshBorke | Nefarion: welcome to lua |
| 13:42.38 | Nefarion | well i guess you learn somethign new everyday lol |
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| 13:47.20 | Fisker- | finnish an heroes O_o |
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| 13:56.50 | Toadkiller | Well on the other hand (irrelevant to us) a jit can change the ipairs vs pairs vs plain old for loop dynamic. |
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| 13:57.57 | Toadkiller | I like ipairs sometimes because it keeps the variables used clean & the code easier to maintain & comprehend. Ithink I mostly use for loops tho |
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| 14:01.01 | Toadkiller | Another nice use of iterators is if you shove an array of 2-3 value arrays or something into a single array. The otterator can then pretend to be fetching from a nested array when its just a flat one. |
| 14:01.53 | MoonWolf | iterators have use everywhere, they are as much a part of modern programming as if, while and switch |
| 14:02.31 | Toadkiller | lol i would kill for a switch in lua |
| 14:02.56 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 14:03.16 | Toadkiller | actually I would do mass murder for a real array |
| 14:03.58 | MoonWolf | wait, whats wrong with lua tables |
| 14:03.59 | Toadkiller | *virtual mm |
| 14:04.11 | MoonWolf | i would mass murder for lua tables in quite a few scripting langauges. |
| 14:04.31 | Toadkiller | lol if u are doing ipairs it would be SOOOO much better to actually jsut have an array & index it sequentiallu with NO lookup |
| 14:04.52 | Toadkiller | Yeah the table felxibility is nice |
| 14:05.05 | Toadkiller | Dunno if im gonna like coding in something else again |
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| 14:08.51 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54097 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 14:08.52 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 14:08.52 | CIA-7 | - 30657 |
| 14:08.52 | CIA-7 | - Label warlock soulstones & spellstones correctly. |
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| 14:11.49 | Tse | wtb pitbull to not reset my settings again=( |
| 14:12.12 | Josh_Borke | pitbull hasn't reset my settings ever |
| 14:12.28 | Josh_Borke | then again, i never update |
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| 14:12.47 | Tse | it may by last night update. donno |
| 14:13.10 | Toadkiller | I have only had one hiccup with pitbull & i think its cuz I caught it mid update. |
| 14:13.32 | Tse | it may have been my fault, im not sure. all i tried to do was save my profile and after that everything went nuts |
| 14:14.03 | Toadkiller | How is aguf these days? It lagged behind pitbull there for a bit |
| 14:15.38 | |Stan| | still does |
| 14:15.56 | nevcairiel | define lag behind |
| 14:16.02 | nevcairiel | in useless features, yea it does =P |
| 14:16.03 | |Stan| | you can't configure shit :D |
| 14:16.05 | nevcairiel | agUF has all i need |
| 14:16.11 | nevcairiel | sure you can |
| 14:17.34 | |Stan| | I can't even change the height of bars |
| 14:17.45 | |Stan| | I have to scale the whole thing |
| 14:17.52 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, define: useless features please |
| 14:19.05 | Nefarion | did ckk ever get to removing FuBar's Jostile *dependency*? |
| 14:19.12 | Nefarion | Jostle* |
| 14:19.18 | nevcairiel | |Stan|: you can scale the whole thing, then increase the width again, there you have height |
| 14:19.29 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: features that i dont need are useless for me |
| 14:20.03 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: there's no barfader! |
| 14:20.10 | nevcairiel | i dont need that |
| 14:20.12 | nevcairiel | see, useless |
| 14:20.14 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:20.16 | Josh_Borke | i doooooooo! |
| 14:20.24 | Josh_Borke | or combatfader!!!! |
| 14:20.26 | |Stan| | nevcairiel: problem: buff/debuff icons scale, too and then are huge. next thing, I can't change text-position/style |
| 14:20.28 | Kalroth | there's no boobie animation. |
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| 14:20.35 | Kalroth | huge oversight. |
| 14:20.41 | Josh_Borke | there's no boobie animation in pitbull |
| 14:20.44 | Josh_Borke | or was that added with rock? |
| 14:20.47 | Josh_Borke | so they're rock hard boobies? |
| 14:20.51 | Toadkiller | Oh man who has an incombat fader for their UF? I am so switching! |
| 14:21.05 | Josh_Borke | Toadkiller: pitbull has a CombatFader module |
| 14:21.09 | |Stan| | Toadkiller: pitbull has it |
| 14:21.18 | Toadkiller | I was being funny ;-p |
| 14:21.20 | Kalroth | I agree with nevcairiel though, agUF is sexy |
| 14:21.22 | nevcairiel | |Stan|: like i always say, suite yourself. i am happy with agUF, and i will contribute and support it when necessary |
| 14:21.32 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: help ag with the Ace3 branch |
| 14:21.34 | |Stan| | nevcairiel: kk :) |
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| 14:22.41 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: ya i wanted to try it, but i wasnt sure how stable it is yet |
| 14:22.58 | Kalroth | Simple rule for addon ePeen: If there isn't a religion/flamewar going on between your addon and a similar addon (or just that noone has copied your addon yet), then your addon sucks. |
| 14:23.31 | nevcairiel | i guess i missed the flamewar between bongos and bartender, guess we can coexist |
| 14:24.04 | Grum | hahhaa |
| 14:24.05 | Kalroth | Impossible! Bongos is far superior to Bartender! |
| 14:24.20 | Toadkiller | Ok what ace mod am I noobishly living without? (Already have AuldLangSyne, BT3, Cartographer, Grid, Postal, PitBull & Quartz) |
| 14:24.27 | Grum | flexbar2 is waaaaaaaaaaay better in any case |
| 14:24.36 | nevcairiel | bloatbar? pls :D |
| 14:24.58 | Kalroth | Toadkiller: AutoBar once it's stable again :) |
| 14:24.59 | nevcairiel | i wish slouken wouldve listend to my suggestion tho, wouldve made bartender so much easier |
| 14:25.01 | Grum | flexbar2>* |
| 14:25.05 | Josh_Borke | Toadkiller: CT_BuffMod |
| 14:25.15 | Josh_Borke | Toadkiller: MobHealth3 |
| 14:25.17 | Toadkiller | lol I just checked in something thats probably the most stable yet |
| 14:25.33 | nevcairiel | a guildmate of mine keeps complaining that the settings reset like once a week |
| 14:25.34 | Toadkiller | CT_* can lick my coconuts |
| 14:25.37 | nevcairiel | stop doing that to people! |
| 14:25.44 | Grum | you got coconuts? |
| 14:26.09 | Kalroth | Yeah, AutoBar was rather funky for me, but I haven't tried it in ~2 weeks or so, I got tired of messing around with it ;) |
| 14:26.31 | Toadkiller | Yeah its been a bit brutal the last week or 2 |
| 14:26.37 | Kalroth | I guess it's because I used it as a popup bar rather than something clever for consumeables :) |
| 14:26.50 | Toadkiller | Well for people that rearrange the bar a lot anyway ;-p |
| 14:27.27 | |Stan| | nevcairiel: any progress on BT4? :P |
| 14:28.00 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 14:28.04 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: Thanks for all the code I stole from BT3 ;-p |
| 14:28.12 | Kalroth | code thief! |
| 14:28.18 | nevcairiel | slouken ignored my request which wouldve made actionbars easier |
| 14:28.21 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 14:28.28 | Grum | what did you request? |
| 14:28.30 | Toadkiller | Did I say that out loud? I meant "borrow" |
| 14:28.38 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Odds are that it would have made his work harder though :p |
| 14:29.26 | nevcairiel | that the SecureActionButton template gets a OnAttributeChanged script, that updates the button, thus allowing custom states on the button, without a custom updating code |
| 14:30.16 | Grum | mmm |
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| 14:31.20 | Toadkiller | I wish they would support non action bar buttons better. This roll your own stuff is sucky. |
| 14:31.39 | Nefarion | i suppose we can all go /sign the request for some support lol |
| 14:32.12 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765957790&sid=1 |
| 14:32.22 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | [11/7 22:26:27] <+Etoh> I can't believe they're making another expansion for Everquest 1. Do people still play that? |
| 14:32.25 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i loled |
| 14:32.36 | Toadkiller | Yeah the current thing leads to stupid stuff where no code including a macro can invoke "Alchemy", but an action item can. |
| 14:33.16 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | why can't you /cast Alchemy |
| 14:33.39 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | "/cast Enchanting" opens the enchanting interface for eg |
| 14:35.03 | Toadkiller | I suspect they special cased "Attack" which is usually the first item in anyones spellbook |
| 14:35.23 | Toadkiller | Unfortunately ALchemy is first alphabetically... |
| 14:35.49 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | what does getting the spellID for alchemy give? |
| 14:35.50 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: It is |
| 14:35.59 | Toadkiller | 1 |
| 14:36.08 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: German clients have the same with fishing "Angeln" |
| 14:36.11 | Toadkiller | So you can do a workaround & cast the spell by spell id |
| 14:36.13 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | so it should work? |
| 14:36.15 | sb | mh Toadkiller 1. do you know about zone specific potions? (SSC / TK) i think update on zoning doesnt work correect (its fine sometimes - and in other cases nothing happens) - and 2. whats wrong if clicking potions doesnt work (open inventory + click is fine - so yes, i still have plenty of them :p) but dont know how to reproduce |
| 14:36.15 | [Ammo] | same happens with the fishing for germansyeah |
| 14:36.19 | SunTsu | Except you are an alchemist, that is |
| 14:36.21 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | or you can workaround by spellid |
| 14:36.33 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: Tx, yeah that kinda confirms the issue then |
| 14:36.50 | SunTsu | FishingBuddy does it by using an item on the action bars |
| 14:37.26 | sb | Toadkiller: oh and 3. how often do you scan the inventory for 'new' items? (or event based?) |
| 14:37.42 | Toadkiller | sb: If you have say 1 potion in your first slot containing that type then use it then you are hosed till after combat. You can work around it by shuffling a 5 stack to the first spot |
| 14:37.58 | Toadkiller | The manual shuffle works in combat too IF you know where to move it to |
| 14:38.09 | sb | mh i see :/ |
| 14:38.15 | Toadkiller | This will be fixed at some point during the rewrite |
| 14:39.38 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: Oh damn, I need to fix the Fishing category as well then |
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| 14:39.57 | sb | Toadkiller: and the other stuff? :p (zoning and inventrory scan) |
| 14:41.35 | Nefarion | is it still possible in PitBull to get the mana/health bars to appear side-by-side? |
| 14:41.43 | Nefarion | or was that scrapped with the new layout system altogether? |
| 14:41.51 | Toadkiller | sb: I need to go spend some time zoning into SSC &Eye see if I can figure out its major malfunction |
| 14:42.58 | Obelixprim1 | I have an addon idea |
| 14:43.26 | Nefarion | what's that? |
| 14:43.35 | Grum | it will be an addon |
| 14:43.40 | Obelixprim1 | Well, my guild uses a loot council with wishlists |
| 14:43.53 | Obelixprim1 | so you rank 3 items as T1 and the rest are defaulted to T2 |
| 14:43.55 | Toadkiller | Menhir tracking on minimap? |
| 14:44.17 | kenlyric | so, left blade, right blade, and what else? |
| 14:44.24 | Obelixprim1 | lol |
| 14:44.38 | Obelixprim1 | well, for me as a spriest i have t6 helm, pants off azgalor, and trash mh |
| 14:44.42 | Obelixprim1 | and they usually give priority to people who have an item in their t1 |
| 14:44.57 | Obelixprim1 | but the issue is, the class officers don't have every person's wishlists memorized |
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| 14:45.12 | Grum | Obelixprim1: write it down on the forum? :D |
| 14:45.24 | Obelixprim1 | well, it's pm'd to our class officers |
| 14:45.58 | Toadkiller | So when u get something for your T1 do you nthen submit another one? |
| 14:46.01 | Obelixprim1 | but after talking to my CO they were like, "we deal with enough stuff as it is as I have to reply to a ton of tells and blah blah blah and alt+tabbing is tough cause i have to buff and blah blha blha" |
| 14:46.03 | Obelixprim1 | no |
| 14:46.16 | Obelixprim1 | well, i guess we might after we start sunwell |
| 14:46.37 | Obelixprim1 | but we haven't gotten illidan down since we just started on him on sunday |
| 14:46.48 | Nefarion | can anyone suggest a very visually basic HUD? (sorta like this: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/79/wowscrnshot032107145250md5.jpg ) |
| 14:47.08 | Toadkiller | We just have 1 officer per drop & then tells go to them & they decide |
| 14:47.15 | Obelixprim1 | Nefarion: there's no hud in that picture |
| 14:47.17 | kenlyric | lol |
| 14:47.23 | Nefarion | the vertical bars |
| 14:47.25 | kenlyric | Nefarion: at first I thought that gnome was facing the wrong way. |
| 14:47.30 | Nefarion | a hud that's similar |
| 14:47.36 | Obelixprim1 | Isn't that just pitbull? |
| 14:47.41 | kenlyric | then I realized it was a picture of the gnome |
| 14:47.44 | Nefarion | no, that's discord |
| 14:47.52 | kenlyric | and then I just realized the gnome *is* facing the wrong way. |
| 14:47.54 | Obelixprim1 | oooh |
| 14:47.56 | Nefarion | i don't think pit can do side-by-side bars anymore |
| 14:47.58 | Obelixprim1 | you want a hud with vertical lines |
| 14:48.13 | Obelixprim1 | i'm not too sure... I liked DHUD when I used it |
| 14:48.40 | Obelixprim1 | but yeah, this all stemmed from the fact that I've been sat out while a better geared try out has been in on Hyjal farm days |
| 14:48.45 | Nefarion | nah i hate dhud. it's very uselessly heavy on the cpu and it won't fit with my new ui idea |
| 14:48.51 | kenlyric | grid has taught me to appreciate vertical health lines. |
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| 14:58.46 | Grum | grid ftw :) |
| 14:59.02 | Toadkiller | Grid needs a mod to set it up |
| 14:59.52 | Grum | not really |
| 15:00.13 | Toadkiller | lol you are not serious are you? |
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| 15:00.36 | Toadkiller | Or perhaps you have never tried to help guildies switch to grid |
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| 15:02.37 | Hjalte | Having an easier way to configure Grid might make more people use it to the full potential. |
| 15:02.57 | Grum | Toadkiller: i did convert most of our healers to grid :) |
| 15:02.59 | sb | for me sRF is still > grid ;p |
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| 15:03.03 | Toadkiller | Exactly. Its the next mod im gonna work on if I ever finish this AutoBar rewrite |
| 15:03.13 | sb | i dont see the point in switching over |
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| 15:03.21 | Grum | sb: you healing? |
| 15:03.24 | sb | yep |
| 15:03.31 | genetik- | Hjalte: what configuration features would make it easier to configure? |
| 15:03.32 | Fisker- | Grid needs moar options |
| 15:03.35 | Grum | then you move your mouse too much :) |
| 15:03.41 | kenlyric | the defaults are surprisingly effective, though a couple of things aren't, namely the big giant icon which BLOCK health display on a debuff and the fact that four of the side icons aren't enabled to something. |
| 15:03.43 | Fisker- | Want better layout handling and pets |
| 15:03.53 | Fisker- | as well as incoming heals stuff that actually works |
| 15:03.56 | Toadkiller | I got so freaking tired of wrangling UFrames all over the screen that I switched to grid &never looked back |
| 15:04.02 | sb | Grum: but i'm also raid leader, so i have to see a few things |
| 15:04.10 | Hjalte | genetik, like setting up special notifications, making sure everything is in the right corner and so on. |
| 15:04.19 | Grum | well i use XRS+Grid and thats perfect even for raidleading :) |
| 15:04.21 | sb | and yes i know - there are now mana bars available |
| 15:04.27 | genetik- | Grum: same |
| 15:04.31 | kenlyric | and rage! |
| 15:04.38 | Fisker- | i used Grid before it was cool :( |
| 15:04.38 | Toadkiller | & pets! |
| 15:04.47 | kenlyric | but only in branch |
| 15:04.48 | sb | how do you know if some rogue is afk + stealth? :p |
| 15:04.55 | Toadkiller | I used grid when 2.0 shipped |
| 15:04.59 | genetik- | check for a buff of "stealth" |
| 15:05.02 | Fisker- | same here |
| 15:05.03 | sb | you have to define some dot/color and remeber it |
| 15:05.04 | Grum | i dont mark stealth? |
| 15:05.04 | Toadkiller | well & on the PTR |
| 15:05.07 | kenlyric | sb: change the options so afk and stealth notify in two different ways? |
| 15:05.07 | sb | year right |
| 15:05.09 | Fisker- | didn't have a healer before TBC |
| 15:05.11 | Grum | why would i care for rogues being stealth :) |
| 15:05.18 | sb | but there are colors/dots to remember |
| 15:05.26 | sb | because i dont want to fight with 24 ppl? |
| 15:05.35 | Grum | ? |
| 15:05.39 | kenlyric | right, but you pick that up pretty quickly if you use it side-by-side with your old UF. |
| 15:05.46 | sb | yeah, readycheck, i know |
| 15:05.48 | Grum | i would just never *ever* show 'stealthness' on a rogue |
| 15:05.49 | Toadkiller | wha? who is this stealth thing an issue for? |
| 15:05.51 | Grum | i couldn't care less |
| 15:06.04 | sb | uhm afk -> raidkick? :p |
| 15:06.08 | Grum | yup |
| 15:06.15 | Grum | but that shows enough in dmgmeters |
| 15:06.15 | sb | ah okay, waiting for afk tag ;p |
| 15:06.17 | Toadkiller | You only cared about that back when they would not get buffed while stealthed |
| 15:06.27 | Grum | Toadkiller: indeed |
| 15:06.35 | genetik- | stealth isn't a good indication of afk status, in my opinion |
| 15:06.39 | Grum | next to that, we have 7 healers - i am mostly afk during thrash |
| 15:06.46 | sb | ok and another point is |
| 15:06.50 | Grum | doing tactics/marking next pack/looting/browsing the web O.o |
| 15:06.56 | sb | if grid would have more that 1 icon it would be <3 |
| 15:06.58 | Toadkiller | Oh wait you guys are talking about that noob NE ability? |
| 15:07.03 | Grum | SB: i agree |
| 15:07.11 | sb | so icon as replacement for dots |
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| 15:07.33 | sb | having 1 in each corner and 1 big etc... :p |
| 15:07.36 | genetik- | so instead of many tiny dots, you'd have many tiny icons? |
| 15:07.46 | sb | yup |
| 15:07.48 | genetik- | i don't see how that's much of a change |
| 15:07.50 | kenlyric | post I'm working on and would like some feedback from bored people. check out the classes you know best and tell me where I fucked up badly. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddvfvj5r_73jd8m9f |
| 15:07.50 | genetik- | or improvement |
| 15:07.53 | Grum | it should just be completely modifyable ;D |
| 15:08.22 | genetik- | because unless you have the grid scaled up really high, you wouldn't be able to tell what the corner icons are |
| 15:08.51 | sb | mh yes, and if its scaled up like that you could also use sRF ;p i know thats some problem... ;p |
| 15:09.06 | sb | meh dont know - perhaps i will try again some day... :p |
| 15:09.25 | genetik- | what i did before running only grid was run it right next to sRF |
| 15:09.27 | Grum | kenlyric: for hunters it's all in the pet - get a boar and you are set |
| 15:09.29 | genetik- | so i got used to the dots and whatnot |
| 15:10.20 | Grum | atm i only use grid icons for 'important spells' 'Water Tomb','Static Charge','Remote Toy', name em :) |
| 15:10.30 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r54099 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 15:10.30 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:10.30 | CIA-7 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: |
| 15:10.30 | CIA-7 | - revert to r53913 (Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua) |
| 15:10.30 | CIA-7 | - the r53983 commit killed many other translations (check the diff between r53913 and r53983 or r53913 and r53983...a mess) |
| 15:10.31 | CIA-7 | - any commit to Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua >r53913: please check and may be commit you changes again thx |
| 15:10.50 | Grum | however it would be nice if it would have a database with 'important spells @ certain bosses' |
| 15:10.53 | genetik- | Grum: same |
| 15:11.00 | genetik- | silencing debuffs also |
| 15:11.24 | Grum | so whenever for example Bigwigs initiates you being in a bossfight - it should add debuffs |
| 15:11.36 | Grum | for example, being @ VR - add the 'silence' as iconned spell |
| 15:11.57 | genetik- | yeah, that'd be nice to have it interact with boss mods |
| 15:12.00 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | or you can just make grid show all debuffs. |
| 15:12.11 | genetik- | some debuffs i don't care about, though |
| 15:12.17 | Grum | and i'd love to see a 'you got hit by flamepatch' warning |
| 15:12.23 | genetik- | heh |
| 15:12.28 | Grum | tossing out a quick shield on such people might just save a raid |
| 15:12.31 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | well there's no win win situation |
| 15:12.35 | kenlyric | lots of debuffs we don't care about. |
| 15:12.39 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | you either painstakingly set it up for every boss |
| 15:12.43 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | or you show everything |
| 15:12.52 | Grum | i think people can make a 'list' per boss |
| 15:13.01 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i dont think so |
| 15:13.08 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | what is important to you, may not be important to me |
| 15:13.08 | Grum | i do think so |
| 15:13.17 | genetik- | i wouldn't say it's painful in the least.. it takes 20 seconds to set up an aura indicator |
| 15:13.18 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i couldn't care less if you got hit by a magic debuff that i can't decurse |
| 15:13.20 | Grum | they also made a threatlib O.o |
| 15:13.59 | kenlyric | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: well that's not very fine-tuned. You can just turn off all magic debuffs. |
| 15:14.08 | kenlyric | I turn off all curses and poisons |
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| 15:14.23 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | yeah but my point still stands - a "library" listing all important debuffs may still not be useful |
| 15:14.40 | kenlyric | but still I'd like to see magic debuffs that are hurting you, and could care less that you've been slowed by frost. |
| 15:14.49 | Grum | i agree on that Xin |
| 15:14.52 | genetik- | NM|Xinhuan|Guru: i'd think that would be something more for wowhead and the like |
| 15:14.53 | kenlyric | oh, that was you point? |
| 15:15.01 | kenlyric | guess I missed that :) |
| 15:15.21 | Grum | for example |
| 15:15.28 | Grum | i like to see 'sawblade' on the thrash before VR |
| 15:15.36 | Grum | or 'whirlwind' on leotheras |
| 15:15.45 | Grum | but both those debuffs also (literally) get applied in other situations |
| 15:15.48 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | from a healer point of view, they would want to see all debuffs that do DoT damage |
| 15:15.49 | Grum | and then they are neglectable |
| 15:15.58 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | but from a mage point of view, i wouldn't find that useful |
| 15:16.04 | Grum | yup |
| 15:16.18 | genetik- | unless you're a mage who's raid leader, perhaps |
| 15:16.21 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | a priest may want to see a curse that deals DoT damage |
| 15:16.24 | Grum | but you can make a list of debuffs in an area and classify per 'type' |
| 15:16.26 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | even though he can't decurse it |
| 15:16.31 | Grum | (DoT,Curse,Harmful,XXX) |
| 15:16.37 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | so you can't simply classify stuff either |
| 15:16.43 | Toadkiller | kenlyric: For druids I would drop Feral Instinct. You dont need threat generation & stealth is not for hiding its for walking up to something & pouncing on their face. Use it for brutal impact instead + 1 point somewhere else |
| 15:16.45 | Grum | well you can tag debuffs :) |
| 15:16.58 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | if you're raid leader or do organising of raid in some way, you will want to show/hide specific stuff as well |
| 15:17.00 | kenlyric | woo! feedback! |
| 15:17.11 | Grum | yup |
| 15:17.32 | harldephin | beedfack? |
| 15:17.36 | Grum | but if you would create some kind of 'tagging' for certain (de)buffs then you could make a system like this |
| 15:17.48 | Toadkiller | also the extra stun lets you take less damage per kill which is less time switching out & healing or waiting on mana or drinking / eating which means faster leveling |
| 15:17.53 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | however, it could be possible to make a "module" for grid that lists debuffs from every boss, that users can show/hide easily |
| 15:18.01 | Grum | yup |
| 15:18.06 | Mooz1 | based on class in that it would only show debuffs important to that class, not specific to that class |
| 15:18.09 | Toadkiller | Which kinda means the extra point goes into mark for more dps |
| 15:18.18 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | hmm why is my nick this |
| 15:18.25 | Grum | with tagging, a person could just say: 'I tag these kinda of buffs' and then show all of these @ certain fights |
| 15:18.28 | Grum | dunno |
| 15:18.31 | Grum | but its looong |
| 15:18.32 | kenlyric | this build actually has a lot of extra points. |
| 15:18.46 | kenlyric | I need one more in the first 4 tiers of feral... shredding attacks? |
| 15:18.49 | Grum | kenlyric: hunters should get boars and the spec doesnt really matter |
| 15:19.14 | Grum | for pure grinding i think MM is the best |
| 15:19.26 | Grum | mmm well .. could be |
| 15:19.27 | Mooz1 | it sounds like he's talking about a druid... |
| 15:19.28 | kenlyric | Grum: yeah, people keep saying that, but spec does matter. Not excessively, but it makes it go faster. |
| 15:19.47 | kenlyric | if you spec resto as a druid things are just going to take *longer* |
| 15:19.53 | Grum | well with a boar you dont have aggro problems (at least not every 30s) |
| 15:19.59 | Grum | and in patch 2.3 it doesnt matter at all |
| 15:20.11 | Grum | yay for deadzone shrinking :) |
| 15:20.14 | SunTsu | kenlyric: That depends on what you are mainly doing. If you are DD a lot it is woth the points |
| 15:20.24 | SunTsu | worth even |
| 15:20.39 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Especially combined with the everbloom idol |
| 15:20.50 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.15 | kenlyric | there's a good reason information like this is impossible to find. |
| 15:21.30 | Grum | its based on opinions ;D |
| 15:21.50 | SunTsu | Grum: right |
| 15:21.58 | kenlyric | Grum: but the math just doesn't support the idea that spec doesn't matter. |
| 15:22.32 | Grum | well its a combination of stuff |
| 15:22.33 | harldephin | some things just don't deserve to be known by certain people ? |
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| 15:22.58 | kenlyric | if you don't spec into either spellstopping ability healers just take longer to kill. |
| 15:23.06 | kenlyric | (for hunters) |
| 15:23.16 | Grum | depends |
| 15:23.25 | Grum | if you are BM you have determination |
| 15:23.32 | SunTsu | kenlyric: It all depends on what you are intending to do |
| 15:23.37 | kenlyric | and some things that work very well for pvp or for very long encounters don't for very short ones. |
| 15:23.43 | Grum | meh what is it called |
| 15:23.44 | kenlyric | SunTsu: I say right at the top what I'm intending to do :) |
| 15:24.00 | Grum | intimidation even :D |
| 15:24.02 | kenlyric | pure solo pve leveling spec. |
| 15:24.11 | Grum | Command your pet to intimidate the target on the next successful melee attack, causing a high amount of threat and stunning the target for 3 sec. |
| 15:24.17 | Grum | enough to interrupt any heal |
| 15:24.18 | Mooz1 | solo leveling would likely be beastmaster |
| 15:24.29 | Grum | but if you are MM, you can use scattershot |
| 15:24.30 | kenlyric | Grum: right, but if you don't spec into that or into scattershot, you're going to have trouble. |
| 15:24.49 | Grum | you still can get silencing shot |
| 15:24.54 | Grum | or just do enough dps to kill a healer |
| 15:24.59 | Toadkiller | kenlyric: no the only points you have free are the thick hide & feral instinct which can be moved elsewhere. Everything else is mandatory. |
| 15:25.11 | Grum | you should noe look at 'generic' killing imho, find a grindspot and stick to it |
| 15:25.20 | Grum | dont go kill mobs that are hard to kill |
| 15:25.24 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Then shreddings attack is not for you. You normally have a hard time getting behind a mob for more than one hit - which will not be shredding ;) |
| 15:25.32 | Grum | you are not going to kill fire-resistant mobs with a firemage either |
| 15:25.34 | kenlyric | even the easy ones die faster with a well-tuned spec. |
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| 15:25.56 | Grum | but you dont need silencing shot for that |
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| 15:26.03 | Toadkiller | Grum: hard mobs = elites for quests tho &those are fast xp |
| 15:26.34 | Grum | dont forget that 2.3 also brings <60 most elites should be non-elites |
| 15:26.37 | Toadkiller | LAst night my 27 hunter killed that gizmo panther which is 30 or 31... |
| 15:26.49 | Grum | but now try killing an elite bird |
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| 15:26.53 | Grum | you will get owned |
| 15:27.04 | kenlyric | which is why I don't focus on elite killing at all, though I'm not sure what changed I would make for them. |
| 15:27.14 | kenlyric | *changes |
| 15:27.24 | Grum | pick elites you can kill |
| 15:27.28 | Toadkiller | all u need to kill stuff is a pet with aggro... |
| 15:27.42 | Grum | in nagrand the bountyquest-chain thingie - hunters should not even try to solo the flying bird |
| 15:27.46 | Grum | that is just a nogo :) |
| 15:27.48 | kebinusan | trap shoot trap repeat is all you need |
| 15:27.54 | kenlyric | that bird is nasty. |
| 15:27.58 | Grum | yup but elites are mostly immune to trapping |
| 15:28.10 | kebinusan | you can fd in there if your pet will survive, not really about the same number that are immune to fear |
| 15:28.16 | Grum | and that bird is next to taht also immune for movement impairing effects |
| 15:28.26 | Grum | so basicly you cant kite it and only take it head on |
| 15:28.27 | kebinusan | also its a bird, you can probably scare beast |
| 15:28.39 | Grum | lol i never tried that! |
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| 15:29.33 | kebinusan | oh but that bird, yeah I dunno if he's soloable the, I remember him having a nasty knockdown |
| 15:29.41 | Xuerian | Kinky |
| 15:29.42 | kenlyric | updated the druid build toadkiller thanks. |
| 15:30.47 | Josh_Borke | kebinusan: i two manned him as a disc priest and a mage |
| 15:30.52 | Josh_Borke | graveyard zerg ftw |
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| 15:31.18 | Grum | a mage can solo it |
| 15:31.26 | Grum | depending he can do enough dmg :D |
| 15:31.57 | Amadeo | solo what!? |
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| 15:32.03 | Josh_Borke | an appropriate level mage? |
| 15:32.08 | Amadeo | Hogger? |
| 15:32.11 | Grum | dnno its ~67 orso right? |
| 15:32.19 | Grum | Hogger? we use 40m raids for that |
| 15:32.20 | kenlyric | so at 70, in t6 gear he means. |
| 15:32.32 | kenlyric | 20/21/20 spec? |
| 15:32.37 | Grum | ;D |
| 15:32.40 | Grum | portal spec! |
| 15:32.43 | kenlyric | best of everything! |
| 15:32.44 | SunTsu | Hogger? Solo a world boss would be impressive ;) |
| 15:32.54 | kenlyric | hogger is a world boss. |
| 15:32.54 | Grum | Hunter vs Azuregos? :D |
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| 15:33.03 | SunTsu | Grum: Hunter vs. Hogger ;) |
| 15:33.16 | Grum | Hogger>Huntert |
| 15:34.56 | harldephin | hogger.. lol.. |
| 15:35.22 | Grum | i should make a mod that shows any elite as Hogger |
| 15:35.37 | kenlyric | next brewfest. |
| 15:35.43 | Grum | ;) |
| 15:36.38 | kenlyric | AM spec on a mage at 23 is pretty lousy. |
| 15:37.47 | harldephin | i'd want any elite to be shown as Soft Banana Bread |
| 15:38.03 | harldephin | or maybe knot |
| 15:38.48 | harldephin | concerned? |
| 15:39.21 | kenlyric | I used to use a mod on quake 1, and if you loaded the saved games in regular quake, the sprites would be all fucked up. The chainsaw ogres would be boxes. |
| 15:39.36 | harldephin | cute |
| 15:39.40 | kenlyric | And those dudes with swords would be gibbed limbs. |
| 15:39.42 | kenlyric | it was creepy |
| 15:39.44 | Amadeo | Sprite, obey your thirst |
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| 15:41.51 | Sekkyo | [Ammo]: thanks for fixing that. drove me crazy all night |
| 15:42.14 | vrak | what's that handy little command to find out what my mouse is hovering over? |
| 15:43.06 | Grum | /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() orso .. (not 100% sure) |
| 15:43.38 | Nefarion | that is it |
| 15:43.48 | Nefarion | there're also a few addons for that info on the svn |
| 15:43.54 | Josh_Borke | ~devtools |
| 15:43.55 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 15:43.59 | Josh_Borke | is my favorite |
| 15:45.08 | Nefarion | is WheresMyCow any good? |
| 15:46.24 | Nefarion | oh nvm |
| 15:46.24 | kenlyric | anyone have opinion on the rogue spec? because I might actually be playing a rogue when 2.3 comes http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fGebohZMIEz0VzxMhot |
| 15:52.43 | Toadkiller | purl: Tx I hadnt updated my devtools since 2.0 shipped |
| 15:52.58 | Josh_Borke | Nefarion: no |
| 15:53.26 | Nefarion | yeah i didn't realize it was for direct use by addons for debugging |
| 15:53.56 | Josh_Borke | it's for use by developers for debugging |
| 15:54.03 | Josh_Borke | but WobWork (slacker) never finished it |
| 15:54.25 | Obelixprim1 | ok, back to my wishlist addon |
| 15:54.32 | Obelixprim1 | how difficult would it be to embed info into the tooltip? |
| 15:54.37 | Josh_Borke | it's not |
| 15:54.57 | Toadkiller | ~devtools |
| 15:54.57 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 15:55.03 | Toadkiller | purl is a bot lol |
| 15:55.13 | Josh_Borke | purl, what are you? |
| 15:55.13 | purl | ACTION are you to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 15:55.19 | Josh_Borke | ~blootbot |
| 15:55.20 | purl | somebody said blootbot was an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 15:55.44 | Toadkiller | purl tell Josh Ithanked him!~ |
| 15:57.01 | Obelixprim1 | how woudl syncing work on an addon |
| 15:57.07 | Obelixprim1 | it would use the guild addon channel? |
| 15:57.17 | Josh_Borke | Obelixprim1: it depends on how the addon decides it should work |
| 15:57.25 | Nefarion | Obelixprimt1: tooltip:AddLine("text",r,g,b) or tooltip:AddDoubleLine("text","text2",r,g,b,r2,g2,b2) -- not sure on double line api.. |
| 15:57.31 | Josh_Borke | some addons sync information with a guild, others (like threat) sync with a group |
| 15:57.52 | Obelixprim1 | i want to have all the officers have them sync'd with each other |
| 15:57.59 | Obelixprim1 | possible? |
| 15:58.05 | Nefarion | Obelixprim1: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 15:58.07 | Josh_Borke | then that means you would use the guild addon channel |
| 15:58.45 | Nefarion | make the prefix a code to identify your addon. register the event to pick up new messages sent to you and do a check ont he prefix. if it's yours, do your processing with the text string. |
| 15:59.14 | Nefarion | event is CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 16:00.19 | Obelixprim1 | how about hooking into existing addons like atlasloot |
| 16:00.31 | Pkekyo | huh, rumors has it s3 starts next wednesday (eu)...anyone able to (de)confirm this? |
| 16:00.41 | Nefarion | Obelixprim1: what do you mean? |
| 16:00.48 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo: S3 is stated to come out 1 week after 2.3 |
| 16:01.35 | Nefarion | Obelixprim1: tooltip hooking: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#GameTooltip |
| 16:01.49 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: confirmed by Drysc, so I guess... confirmed? |
| 16:02.12 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: drysc? |
| 16:02.24 | kenlyric | did I spell that wrong? |
| 16:02.28 | Obelixprim1 | thank you nef |
| 16:02.29 | Nefarion | blue poster (and dev?) on the forums |
| 16:02.32 | Pkekyo | I don't know? |
| 16:02.37 | Pkekyo | never heard of him |
| 16:02.39 | Nefarion | Drysc is the correct spelling |
| 16:02.42 | kenlyric | oh gods. |
| 16:02.53 | Nefarion | he's the guy that has the felwood tree for an avatar |
| 16:03.04 | Nefarion | (and the reason i fear felwood) |
| 16:03.06 | kenlyric | you poor eu folks, you don't get to enjoy drysc? |
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| 16:03.49 | Nefarion | but they're free from the reign of kalgan =D |
| 16:03.51 | kenlyric | I entered felwood like the week drysc started. It was eerie. I was like 'i've never seen anything like that tree" then 10 minutes later it was "omg, it's him" |
| 16:04.03 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: nope |
| 16:04.17 | Nefarion | or does Tom post on the eu side? |
| 16:06.18 | Pkekyo | only blue posters I've seen on EU is crezax (spelling?) and Aeus |
| 16:06.59 | Nefarion | do you happen to know their real names? |
| 16:07.23 | Amadeo | Most of the Blizzard posters are just paid forum trolls |
| 16:07.46 | Pkekyo | Nefarion: nope |
| 16:08.00 | Obelixprim1 | where would be a good start for modding |
| 16:08.13 | Nefarion | http://lua.org/pil/ |
| 16:08.25 | Pkekyo | though I haven't ever heard of any cross-zone blues |
| 16:08.37 | Nefarion | after that, http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization |
| 16:08.58 | Nefarion | is Bornakk a dev or just a poster? |
| 16:09.10 | vrak | hmm, are there any ace addons that mimic the equipment slot-dropdown functionality itemrack has ? |
| 16:09.14 | Pkekyo | no idea nef |
| 16:09.53 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: you can generally count on http://www.mmo-champion.com/ or the blue tracker http://blue.cardplace.com/ to give the dish. |
| 16:10.15 | Pkekyo | dish? what dish? |
| 16:10.20 | kenlyric | and, wowinsider usually has it a few hours later. |
| 16:10.38 | kenlyric | confirmation of rumors you've heard. |
| 16:12.00 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 16:14.15 | Obelixprim1 | you have to install Lua to do development>? |
| 16:14.34 | Josh_Borke | Obelixprim1: no |
| 16:14.40 | Josh_Borke | Obelixprim1: wow runs lua |
| 16:15.01 | Nefarion | Lua is the language |
| 16:16.19 | sag_ich_nicht | your mom runs lua |
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| 16:16.59 | Nefarion | lua> print(getFamilty(Nefarion).mother) |
| 16:17.00 | cladbot | Nefarion: [string "print(getFamilty(Nefarion).mother)"]:1: attempt to call global 'getFamilty' (a nil value) |
| 16:17.07 | Nefarion | sorry |
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| 16:34.31 | Tse | is there an addon that tracks your arena history? like 2v2 and your win/loss vs priest/lock? |
| 16:34.38 | Tse | and win/loss on maps |
| 16:35.11 | Josh_Borke | tse: i believed shadowed wrote something, maybe honor? |
| 16:35.25 | Nefarion | i saw ArenaHistory on the svn but there was no documentation for it at all....so... |
| 16:35.37 | Nefarion | that's called Honest, Josh_Borke |
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| 16:35.45 | Nefarion | on wowinterface |
| 16:35.47 | Tse | i think i have that and it doesnt seem to do much more than spam chat for last game |
| 16:35.54 | Tse | ill check |
| 16:36.02 | Nefarion | does Honest do arenas? |
| 16:36.39 | Nefarion | it does =) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full8210.jpg |
| 16:37.32 | Nefarion | and read the newest comment |
| 16:38.20 | Tse | i have that. notice it's history of today and yesterday. not total |
| 16:38.40 | Tse | id love that + tracking opponent class/teams |
| 16:38.50 | Shadowed | you'd need a specific mod for that |
| 16:39.10 | Shadowed | only reason Honest does arenas is because it's the same code for tracking battleground win/loses |
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| 16:40.31 | Nefarion | is the EditingUI worth downloading? |
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| 16:42.34 | CIA-7 | KeyProfiler: |
| 16:42.34 | CIA-7 | -- The binding set that is used should now be colored |
| 16:42.34 | CIA-7 | -- Added FuBar options |
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| 16:48.03 | kebinusan | Is there an easy way with a script to say move everything from your bags to the new guild bank interface, Im looking for something to ease emptying my guild bank alts next week |
| 16:48.53 | SunTsu | That reminds me that I have to make myself a guild ;) |
| 16:49.50 | ulic | SunTsu: you know the first guild bank slot costs 100g right? |
| 16:50.35 | kebinusan | yea they raised the costs on the slots |
| 16:50.41 | kebinusan | well raised the initial |
| 16:50.54 | ulic | kebinusan: could probably look at how ClosetGnome_Banker moves items, and just modify to move to GuildBank instead of Bank |
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| 16:51.37 | SunTsu | ulic: No, I didn't know that. The guild bank itself or the first extension? |
| 16:51.59 | ulic | the guild bank itself has zero storage space unless you purchase it. |
| 16:52.30 | SunTsu | damnit ;) |
| 16:52.41 | ulic | 100, 250, 500, 1000, 2500, 5000 for each of the 6 tabs, each tab holds 98 items |
| 16:52.52 | Nefarion | imagine the server load of every 5-man LOLguild having a guild bank |
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| 16:53.31 | kebinusan | ulic: thanks for the tip, I might do that |
| 16:53.42 | kebinusan | its gonna be annoying emptying 4 bank alts into the guild bank |
| 16:54.00 | ulic | I'd imagine a small addon could be done with only a handful of lines of code. |
| 16:54.15 | SunTsu | Hm, well, 100g for 98 spaces, when a 20 space bag costs around 300-400 gold... |
| 16:54.44 | ulic | stop buying 20slot bags, 18slot are WAY more affordable for just 2 less slots :) |
| 16:54.45 | kebinusan | but an 18 space bag costs about 10g |
| 16:54.54 | Nefarion | does anyone happen to know this font?: http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101807011421vi9.jpg |
| 16:55.03 | SunTsu | So for the price of one bag I get 196 slots. great. |
| 16:55.31 | Nefarion | oh that's tapestry? different name on wowace i guess. |
| 16:55.41 | SunTsu | ulic, kebinusan: At the current state of my bank, every slot helps |
| 16:57.38 | kebinusan | you must be a pack rat then |
| 16:57.41 | ulic | Personally I'd rather have fewer slots, more tabs, more control, less cost in the guild bank. I understand why they are doing things they are, but I think it could be done better. |
| 16:57.55 | kebinusan | my personal alt barely has all four bag slots filled let alone all his bank slots |
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| 16:58.25 | kebinusan | ulic: blizzard needs better interface designers the control interface is verly cludgy |
| 16:59.13 | Nefarion | ClearFont2 picks up SharedMediaLib fonts, right? |
| 16:59.19 | ulic | I suggested, they do 6 tabs, for like 10g per tab, but each tab only starts with like 14 slots, and you can buy up to 6 more groups for 14 slots for each tab. That would allow for a lots of tabs with lots of control, but yet at less cost. |
| 16:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahahahaha |
| 16:59.59 | ulic | but 2.3 is next week and I just said that this week, so I doubt it will happen :) |
| 17:00.10 | SunTsu | kebinusan: For starters, as a druid I have all kinds of equipment lying around. Spelldamage stuff, Healing stuff, Tank equipment, much resi equipment, lots of pots and reputation items, buff food etc |
| 17:00.22 | sag_ich_nicht | just bought 12[Design: Stormy Star of Elune] for 10g... that thing is worth 400 on my server 8D |
| 17:00.22 | Amadeo | I got rid of like 80% of my addons the other day and my game runs so much smoother now |
| 17:00.36 | ulic | sag_ich_nicht: nice |
| 17:01.35 | Obelixprim1 | so, i blew like 2k arena points on s2 helm when i should ahve waited for s3 |
| 17:02.02 | ulic | indeed, I'm glad I won't have enough points for the next item I want, save me a few points. |
| 17:02.11 | ulic | +until s3 is out |
| 17:02.24 | Obelixprim1 | i should have around 1200 points when s3 comes out |
| 17:02.35 | ulic | that's not too bad |
| 17:02.36 | Obelixprim1 | which is ok i guess |
| 17:02.38 | Obelixprim1 | yeah |
| 17:03.41 | ulic | depending on what you want next. Fortunetly for me I want shoulders and mace, both of which will require a personal AR that I'll never attain, so I might as well just wait for s3 and get the s2 stuff cheaper. |
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| 17:05.02 | ulic | and don't forget to zerg AV as much as you can before the patch :) |
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| 17:06.36 | kebinusan | I hate their new season requirements, makes it difficult to see if your standing is good enough for gladiator because you dont know how many teams are going to be eliminated |
| 17:07.21 | Srosh | In most of these cases it's good to just assume the worst case scenario. |
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| 17:13.01 | hypetech | can anybody recommend a good program for implementing a zero sum dkp system? |
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| 17:13.21 | cncfanatics | ~seen cryogen |
| 17:13.52 | purl | cryogen <i=stu@oftc/staff/cryogen> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 10d 23h 47m 2s ago, saying: 'you need personal rating to buy shoulders or weapons'. |
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| 17:22.33 | kenlyric | kebinusan: just make sure you're in the necessary bracket *before* teams are eliminated :) |
| 17:22.52 | kenlyric | then you don't have to worry. |
| 17:23.13 | kebinusan | oh? I thought teams would be elimited first |
| 17:23.23 | kebinusan | bleh eliminated |
| 17:25.36 | kenlyric | no, I just mean make sure you're high enough to be in the correct percent before teams are eliminated. |
| 17:26.21 | kenlyric | wait, am I thinkingg about this badly? |
| 17:26.35 | kenlyric | won't teams who didn't qualify before move up into qualifying? |
| 17:27.28 | kenlyric | hmmm.. I guess if they remove people then the .5% is a smaller actual number too... |
| 17:27.30 | Higdur | it depends |
| 17:27.44 | kebinusan | top 0.5%, meansi f they elimiate a large number of teams its possible you wouldnt qualify anymore |
| 17:27.45 | Higdur | if some of the top .5% teams are inactive they will |
| 17:27.50 | kenlyric | especially if all the peoplle they drop are at the bottom. |
| 17:27.53 | Higdur | but most likely they are active |
| 17:27.59 | kenlyric | which they almost certainly are going to be. |
| 17:28.01 | Higdur | so they'll drop lowranked teams |
| 17:28.09 | kenlyric | kebinusan: so yeah, that does suck :) |
| 17:28.13 | Higdur | and therefore the top .5% will be less |
| 17:28.18 | kenlyric | addendum: just be number 1 |
| 17:28.23 | kebinusan | haha |
| 17:28.25 | kenlyric | no worries |
| 17:34.15 | hypetech | can anybody recommend a good program for implementing a zero sum dkp system? |
| 17:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 17:34.41 | kebinusan | in game? or out |
| 17:34.47 | sag_ich_nicht | piss of with zerosum and use EPGP |
| 17:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | *off |
| 17:34.59 | kebinusan | I dont like egpg |
| 17:35.00 | hypetech | out of game |
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| 17:35.09 | hypetech | eqdkp isn't working out for zero sum :( |
| 17:35.15 | kebinusan | http://www.eqdkp-plus.com |
| 17:35.39 | kebinusan | works fine for me, been using it for a while |
| 17:35.44 | hypetech | hmm |
| 17:35.53 | hypetech | do you do attendance bonuses at all? |
| 17:36.15 | kebinusan | yeah we dont do straight zero sum |
| 17:36.23 | hypetech | we're worried that if we get stuck on a boss, it basically looks like a waste of everybody's time when there are no points, no loot, and only repair bills |
| 17:36.24 | nevcairiel | isnt the basic zero sum idea to not give any bonus? |
| 17:36.39 | nevcairiel | (thats why we didnt go with zero sum) |
| 17:36.39 | Cryect | Well when you give bonuses in zero sum it takes awaay from everyone |
| 17:36.46 | durcyn | the basic zero sum is to be a useless loot system |
| 17:36.52 | durcyn | point of* |
| 17:37.22 | nevcairiel | we're using a basic standard dkp, time based, minimal bid percentage based |
| 17:37.27 | nevcairiel | works pretty good for us |
| 17:37.46 | durcyn | any dkp system that forces people to pass on upgrades is horseshit |
| 17:37.53 | kebinusan | we do a zero sum based bid system |
| 17:37.56 | hypetech | kebinusan: do you need an additional module to be able to add bonuses into the zero sum system? |
| 17:38.10 | kebinusan | hypetech: not really, I just add additional raids |
| 17:38.19 | Cryect | What DKP system "forces" people to do anything |
| 17:38.29 | hypetech | how does that work? |
| 17:39.20 | kebinusan | well, in raidtracker just create a new raid when you're done with attendance, the new raid records all items and stuff.. then you just import both events, the first raid you can assign some arbitrary attendance bonus |
| 17:39.29 | durcyn | Cryect: when the only way to get the top-end items is to pass on the minor upgrades, something's wrong |
| 17:39.40 | kebinusan | or if you want to be truly zero sum, create a dummy seed toon that can buy an item in that raid |
| 17:39.52 | kebinusan | durcyn: not really true if the system is done properly |
| 17:39.55 | Cryect | durcyn: the problem is with the people and all DKP systems you can say have that issue |
| 17:40.21 | kebinusan | and thats really more an issue with fixed cost systems than bid systems |
| 17:40.29 | Cryect | durcyn: Thats where the idea of upgrade systems come up though |
| 17:41.39 | Cryect | bid systems are awful though since people work together to set prices etc that result in wild differences often in what classes etc are paying |
| 17:42.05 | hypetech | durcyn: we're using fixed price with a mod that calculates dkp price based on stats |
| 17:42.10 | markm | 2.3 next week, hawt |
| 17:42.38 | dashkal | markm: confirmed? |
| 17:42.40 | kebinusan | Not really, people will bid what items are worth to them, what does it matter if an item one week goes for 100 and the next goes for 50 if people are willing to spend their points to do so |
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| 17:43.39 | Cryect | so what if one class all agrees to bid max of 4 dkp |
| 17:43.48 | Cryect | while other clases are bidding like 30 dkp for their items |
| 17:44.00 | Cryect | then on multiclass items the class bidding the lowest gets them all first |
| 17:44.03 | kebinusan | I personally dont see a problem with collusion |
| 17:44.06 | Audrina | How long is the Darkmoon Faire up for? A week? |
| 17:44.40 | kebinusan | if all your rogues agree to roll off at 4 or roll off as soon as the warriors drop out of the bidding, whats the problem ? |
| 17:44.45 | dashkal | Cryect: the class bidding 30 should naturally lower their bids if they don't like losing to the 4 class. Just be sure everybody can see all bids |
| 17:45.01 | buu | Bah. |
| 17:45.14 | buu | Now people are gaming the system for personal reward instead of progressing the guild. |
| 17:45.19 | Cryect | Right |
| 17:45.20 | buu | Where's the benefit there? |
| 17:45.28 | buu | It quickly leads to people hoarding dkp for some item that might drop. |
| 17:45.38 | kebinusan | its personal reward but it does benefit the guild, items still go to someone who raids |
| 17:45.49 | dashkal | buu: *nods* and that's why I'm not a fan of DKP at all |
| 17:46.09 | Cryect | well the other issue with DKP systems is you normally get awarded points mainly based on items picked up |
| 17:46.13 | buu | In an old dkp guild, we'd frequently see not so good items drop that everyone was afraid to take for dkp reasons. |
| 17:46.27 | buu | Then we'd force it on someone who'd bitch about getting dinged for dkp and so on. |
| 17:46.27 | Cryect | which means "farming" days award tons of DKP while learning days yield little to zero depending on what you do |
| 17:47.13 | dashkal | I wonder if I system could be made to work that would award points, not for loot, but for time in attendance |
| 17:47.15 | buu | Cryect: Well, that at least seems fixable. |
| 17:47.36 | Cryect | buu: it is but most people all go with the idea of awarding DKP still based on items |
| 17:47.48 | kebinusan | Well yeah, thats why we dont do strictly zero sum.. items are zero sum and farm items typically go for low amounts of dkp bids except for early boss kills. We award an average raids dkp for learning attempts as well and multiply dkp by your 30 day attendance percentage to determine what you can actually spend |
| 17:47.50 | buu | Essentially the thing is, it is way too hard to construct a proper system that adequately determines rewards based on some arbitrary reward-currency. |
| 17:48.15 | buu | The advantage to dkp is that it can be a lot faster. |
| 17:48.21 | buu | Although in practice it rarely seems to be so. |
| 17:48.43 | buu | Especially in 25mans, there's rarely more than 3 people who want or can even use the item. |
| 17:49.07 | buu | I mean, if you always raid with 5 warlocks or something, I can see some potential difficulties, but barring that.. |
| 17:49.12 | kebinusan | *shrugs* it works for us, we tried loot council but our officers didnt like it and often would intentionally avoid including themselves because of they didnt want the perception of 'officers get all the loot' |
| 17:49.25 | buu | Heh, how many officers did you have? |
| 17:49.31 | Cryect | loot council is a pain and people always complain about bias :-p |
| 17:49.41 | kebinusan | exactly, dkp was less drama |
| 17:50.12 | kebinusan | and people perceive the system as fair, guess thats all that really matters |
| 17:50.13 | buu | kebinusan: I guess, really, as long as you have sane players it generally works out. |
| 17:50.26 | buu | kebinusan: But another problem with dkp is people like main tanks.. |
| 17:50.43 | kebinusan | buu: how so? |
| 17:50.58 | kenlyric | cause they need the gear first. |
| 17:51.01 | buu | kebinusan: Assuming you have, say, a guild warrior MT, and a bunch of plate upgrade drop in new ocntent.. |
| 17:51.13 | buu | Do you give it all to him and let him go way negative? Do you pass it out to the OTs? |
| 17:51.40 | buu | What if some terrible player outbids him? |
| 17:52.01 | kebinusan | Its never been a problem really, There seems to be quite a bit of peer pressure in our guild against getting in a serious bid war with main tanks... and officers can step in and tell someone they're being an idiot |
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| 17:52.06 | kenlyric | isn't it less of problem in TBC though? |
| 17:52.14 | kebinusan | no system is going to accoutn for everything |
| 17:52.26 | buu | kebinusan: I think that's sort of my point. |
| 17:52.26 | kebinusan | you still need people to deal with player not thinking |
| 17:52.33 | kenlyric | where you obsolutely are dead in the water without a geared-to-the-teeth tank. |
| 17:52.49 | buu | Eventually it resolves down to an officer decision anyway. |
| 17:52.54 | dashkal | TBC gave me another problem.. I play a druid, so I find myself competing with tanks and healers. |
| 17:53.04 | buu | dashkal: For.. leather? |
| 17:53.09 | dashkal | For tier drops |
| 17:53.11 | kebinusan | The 'Dont be a dick' rule |
| 17:53.12 | buu | Ah. |
| 17:53.23 | buu | kebinusan: Welcome to the internet! |
| 17:53.26 | kenlyric | didn't they fix that in t6? |
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| 17:53.33 | kenlyric | or did they make it worse? |
| 17:53.33 | dashkal | I don't want to compete with the MT, but I'm not too useful if I don't gear up |
| 17:53.42 | buu | kenlyric: What do you mean? |
| 17:53.56 | pb_ee1 | hum... did ckknight stop to developp his addons? |
| 17:54.07 | kenlyric | buu: t4 tokens at least had seven gear sets on one token and three on the other. |
| 17:54.18 | kenlyric | and put two healers with tanks. |
| 17:54.21 | dashkal | pb_ee1: ckknight has some issues in RL. I believe things are just on hold for the time being |
| 17:54.29 | buu | kenlyric: Oh, heh, yeah, but I didn't think that ever changed. |
| 17:54.39 | pb_ee1 | are yous ure about it or is it a supposition dashkal? |
| 17:54.42 | kenlyric | I thought t6 changed which classes where on each token. |
| 17:54.59 | dashkal | pb_ee1: This is what people have said the last few times I've seen that question asked. |
| 17:55.04 | kebinusan | yeah they got re-arranged |
| 17:55.16 | pb_ee1 | hum |
| 17:55.19 | pb_ee1 | thanks, dashkal |
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| 17:56.07 | dashkal | hmm, so at least there's hope for me then later. I doubt I'll ever see tier 6 (I'm too casual for black temple) but LK may give some hope |
| 17:56.13 | kebinusan | rog mage druid, paladin priest warlock, warrior hunter shaman |
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| 17:56.21 | kenlyric | yeah, t6 is balanced. 5 per token. |
| 17:56.28 | kenlyric | *more balanced |
| 17:56.34 | buu | dashkal: LK? |
| 17:56.38 | dashkal | lich king |
| 17:57.02 | buu | Er, did you see naxx when tbc came out? |
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| 17:57.07 | kebinusan | I still think they shouldnt allow double of the same token drop |
| 17:57.14 | kebinusan | Ive been saying that since aq |
| 17:57.31 | dashkal | buu: I've stealthed around a bit, but we have yet to actually make good and retro-raid it |
| 17:57.42 | buu | Don't you have to be keyed anyway? |
| 17:57.50 | dashkal | buu: I do |
| 17:58.10 | dashkal | buu: I went and got keyed as soon as the argent dawn rep buff was patched in |
| 17:58.17 | buu | Haha. I could never be bothered. |
| 17:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 17:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i just found a retard |
| 17:58.40 | dashkal | heh. It doesn't take much time now. Just get your old mark out and farm runecloth for a couple hours. |
| 17:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | he doesn't understand +weaponskill |
| 17:58.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and thinks i'm not at the hitcap |
| 17:58.49 | sag_ich_nicht | what a retard |
| 17:58.57 | dashkal | heh. I don't either... but I'm a feral |
| 17:59.09 | dashkal | weapon skill mods are rare |
| 17:59.34 | sylvanaar_work | +daggers ft? |
| 18:00.08 | dashkal | I never did quite figure out how to use +feral weapon, so I just hit the hit rating cap and left it |
| 18:00.23 | sylvanaar_work | 1 feral = 10 hit? |
| 18:00.44 | Xelopheris | normally 1 skill = 0.4 hit% |
| 18:00.46 | dashkal | that good? hmm, should invenst in some so I can move some of that +hit back into +crit |
| 18:00.54 | Xelopheris | the 5th skill is currently worth 1.4% |
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| 18:01.49 | dashkal | I wonder what expertiese is going to do to feral druids. If it will work normally for us or not |
| 18:02.14 | sylvanaar_work | it will just be something else you have to accumulate |
| 18:02.44 | dashkal | well so many things have no effect on me (weapon damage, weapon procs, etc) |
| 18:02.49 | Xelopheris | Expertise is a tanking stat |
| 18:03.19 | Xelopheris | cheaper in the item budget than +hit with the essentially same effect, but only works when attacking from the front |
| 18:04.14 | sylvanaar_work | why did they add that |
| 18:04.17 | sylvanaar_work | ? |
| 18:04.37 | Xelopheris | because +hit is a valueable tanking stat |
| 18:04.48 | Xelopheris | and weapon skill is retarded right now |
| 18:05.26 | sylvanaar_work | mkay |
| 18:06.14 | cncfanatics | Xelopheris |
| 18:06.24 | Xelopheris | cncfanatics, |
| 18:06.33 | cncfanatics | +hit & +expertise affect your chance to not miss at the exact same rate when attacking from behind |
| 18:06.42 | cncfanatics | and +expertise is twice as better when attacking from front |
| 18:06.43 | hypetech | is there a current or working version of ndkp? |
| 18:06.46 | Xelopheris | ever get dodged or parried from behind? |
| 18:06.59 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 18:07.05 | cncfanatics | mobs dodge from behind |
| 18:07.05 | cncfanatics | always |
| 18:07.08 | Xelopheris | No |
| 18:07.14 | Xelopheris | You're standing too far through the hitbox |
| 18:07.16 | cncfanatics | yes they do, go fight some boss |
| 18:07.19 | sylvanaar_work | i have a question |
| 18:07.33 | Xelopheris | it's only on fights where bosses regularily turn (supremus, gruul) |
| 18:07.37 | cncfanatics | no it ain't |
| 18:07.41 | cncfanatics | bosses dodge from behind |
| 18:07.46 | Xelopheris | Or bosses with very small hitboxes |
| 18:07.51 | sylvanaar_work | cncfanatics what does your name mean? |
| 18:08.17 | Xelopheris | cncfanatics, go try this out with th epaladin friend. Auto attack him from max distance from behind and see if he dodges/parries anything |
| 18:08.28 | Xelopheris | then move up so you're halfway through his model |
| 18:08.30 | cncfanatics | is my paladin friend a lvl 73 boss mob ? |
| 18:08.32 | cncfanatics | thats new |
| 18:08.35 | cncfanatics | seriously ... |
| 18:08.52 | sylvanaar_work | you can do the same 67 -> 70 ? |
| 18:08.55 | Xelopheris | Seriously, if the front tip of your character box is more than halfway through the target, it counts you as being in front for th ehit table |
| 18:08.55 | kebinusan | hm,, looks like rdx might be open sourced soon |
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| 18:09.08 | Xelopheris | That's how backstabs get parried |
| 18:09.15 | cncfanatics | this ain't pvp |
| 18:09.21 | cncfanatics | pve mobs can dodge from behind |
| 18:09.32 | cncfanatics | someone tell him please -.- |
| 18:09.36 | vrak | are there any ace addons that mimic the equipment slot-dropdown functionality itemrack has ? |
| 18:09.44 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 18:09.47 | Kemayo | vrak: SwapMagic |
| 18:10.01 | sylvanaar_work | ^^ |
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| 18:10.17 | vrak | thanks |
| 18:10.32 | zerix | does anyone know if theres an option to get rid of the dreamlayout border on Buffalo so that the cycirled skins work correctly? |
| 18:10.46 | Xelopheris | use buffalo, not buffalo2 |
| 18:11.45 | zerix | i am |
| 18:11.55 | Kemayo | I thought Buffalo2 was the one where it was optional -- I saw Buffalo2_Dreamlayout on the svn, after all. |
| 18:12.03 | zerix | buffalo2 doenst work with cycircled skins as far as i know |
| 18:12.10 | Xelopheris | yeah, but even without it, buffalo2 isn't cycircled compatible |
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| 18:12.29 | zerix | but buffalo1 has dreamlayout on it by default |
| 18:12.36 | zerix | i edited the lua and got it working that way |
| 18:12.42 | zerix | so it just doesnt draw the border |
| 18:12.43 | dashkal | Does cycircled have a skin akin to autobar's "zoomed"? |
| 18:12.59 | Xelopheris | it works with autobar iirc |
| 18:13.15 | zerix | but i keep seeing screenshots of proper buffalo bars and i cant imagine everyone is removing the border code in the lua |
| 18:13.17 | dashkal | Actually, what I'm trying for is to get bongos into 'zoomed' |
| 18:13.34 | ulic | is there anyway to check to see if an item is soulbound without tooltip scanning? |
| 18:15.15 | Kemayo | ulic: Not last time I checked. |
| 18:15.53 | ulic | that's the poop |
| 18:15.54 | Kemayo | There are certainly others who know more about this than I do, though. |
| 18:18.35 | hypetech | anybody have experience actually using dkpmon/bidder for raids? |
| 18:18.52 | Obelixprim1 | ok, question - if i'm playing and i want to install an addon, should i quit the game, install the addon, start the game |
| 18:18.53 | Obelixprim1 | or |
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| 18:18.59 | kebinusan | yeah, didnt like the fact you needed a client |
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| 18:19.02 | Kemayo | Obelixprim1: Ye. |
| 18:19.07 | Kemayo | s/Ye/Yes |
| 18:19.09 | Obelixprim1 | can i just extract the addon to my interface/addon directory and do a /reloadui |
| 18:19.20 | Kemayo | You have to quit if you add new files. |
| 18:19.34 | Obelixprim1 | ko |
| 18:19.35 | hypetech | kebinusan: well we've managed to train our guild to install wowace addons on demand :p |
| 18:20.19 | kebinusan | I use an older than dirt mod called RaidBidder, it has getdkp support and does simple bid by whisper announce in raid chat stuff |
| 18:20.25 | kebinusan | one of those, it just works things |
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| 18:21.45 | CIA-7 | 03poull * r54102 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPower.xml): |
| 18:21.45 | CIA-7 | PallyPower: |
| 18:21.45 | CIA-7 | - Added scrolling on player buttons and removed salvation on warriors from smartbuff. |
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| 18:29.36 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54103 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 18:29.36 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 18:29.36 | CIA-7 | -Added the automatic reagent restocking feature |
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| 18:30.59 | Erica | Decided to check out the changes in Recount and noticed that the fubar plugin is kinda flaky... selecting options in view mode doesn't bring up what the title states. It's really weird |
| 18:31.10 | NeoTron | Azgalor is such a druid tank fight |
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| 18:32.12 | Pkekyo | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2007/11/wcctat.jpg bwaahahahah |
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| 18:34.14 | NeoTron | good news is we completely dominated the hyjal trash (no trash wipes) and owned the first 3 bosses (one-shot) |
| 18:34.41 | NeoTron | interesting fact - on Kaz'rogal Thrall and friends did 24% of the damage to Kaz |
| 18:35.02 | Karl | is there any library or addon which tries to identify and distinguish mobs with the same name? |
| 18:35.19 | dashkal | Pkekyo: lol. nice find |
| 18:35.33 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/6uhy6mxua6vjk?s=7254-7578 |
| 18:38.27 | Obelixprim1 | dewdrop is a library to develop a gui? |
| 18:40.50 | ulic | hmm, most like a drop down menu |
| 18:40.58 | ulic | s/most/more |
| 18:41.33 | Obelixprim1 | waterfall menu? |
| 18:41.40 | Obelixprim1 | what most ace2 mods use? |
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| 18:43.22 | ulic | I could be wrong, but I believe waterfall is a whole GUI config tool, kinda sort like RockConfig, but dewdrop is simply a dropdown menu, similar to what you'd find any most PC application |
| 18:43.52 | Obelixprim1 | oh |
| 18:44.04 | Obelixprim1 | like "File", "Edit", etc.. |
| 18:44.12 | Pkekyo | sweet, 10.5k falling damage |
| 18:44.16 | Obelixprim1 | lol |
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| 18:44.56 | ulic | of course you'd not have those options, but yes for creating a menu similar to that. |
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| 18:48.01 | Nefarion | does anyone have a download link for working discord UFs? |
| 18:49.12 | Nefarion | is anyone working on them now that the dev dropped them? |
| 18:51.00 | Cartas | You can get better. |
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| 18:51.42 | Nefarion | i wanna try them out. saw some very lovely screens of them. |
| 18:52.25 | dashkal | I miss discord. I loved the control... unfortunately discord was responsible for a 10 fps drop |
| 18:53.19 | Nefarion | 10 fps? |
| 18:53.21 | dashkal | going from 20 to 10 was pretty painful (glad I got a better VC since then) |
| 18:54.27 | Nefarion | you sure about that? |
| 18:54.33 | Cartas | 10FPS? |
| 18:54.36 | Cartas | That's a bit low. |
| 18:54.40 | dashkal | At the time? yeah. Discord on = 20fps, Discord off = 10fps |
| 18:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | i think you have that backwards |
| 18:54.59 | kenlyric | 10fps is fairly good. |
| 18:54.59 | dashkal | Cartas: nVidia 6200 video card and a half gig of ram. I was on a _slow_ box |
| 18:55.06 | kenlyric | I get all giddy when I go to 20. |
| 18:55.14 | Cartas | Aww <3 |
| 18:55.33 | dashkal | Much better system now, so I could afford to sacrifice a measily 10 for pretty frames |
| 18:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | i run ~9fps |
| 18:55.41 | kenlyric | a 6600 doesn't do much better, and there's only so much ram you can throw at the problem :) |
| 18:55.47 | dashkal | ouchy, yeah, I used to be there |
| 18:56.02 | dashkal | I'm now running an 8600 with a gig and a half of ram. It sticks nicely at 60fps |
| 18:56.03 | Nefarion | ~12 here. doesn't anyone run a powerful machine 'round here? |
| 18:56.10 | kenlyric | 10fps is just fine. It's when it spikes to 1 or 2 that's the problem. |
| 18:56.21 | Nefarion | 10 fps isn't fine |
| 18:56.54 | Nefarion | it's playable. but dipping down to under .2 isn't. and once you see high framerate it's hard to look at your machine the same again. |
| 18:56.56 | kenlyric | Nefarion: I upgraded my computer for half-life 2 and bought the cheapest card which would do some sort of shading dealy version 3. it was cheap even then , three years ago :) |
| 18:56.59 | Obelixprim1 | lua is a cool language |
| 18:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | it is when you haven't played with better |
| 18:57.07 | Nefarion | lol |
| 18:57.26 | Obelixprim1 | the documentation is pretty good however i'm at chapter 5 and its giving me a ehadache lol |
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| 18:57.32 | dashkal | Nefarion: Agreed. I have trouble playing on the laptop (it gets 15ish) |
| 18:57.50 | kenlyric | i think it was directx9.0c |
| 18:57.58 | hyperChipmunk | Obelixprim1: PIL or ref man? |
| 18:59.49 | kenlyric | vertex shader 3.0 That was it. |
| 18:59.55 | Obelixprim1 | PIL |
| 19:00.03 | Nefarion | geforce fx 5200. running on a motherboard from 2002 that doesn't even have ddr2 or pci-e. 512 mb of ddr1 200 (or 266, i forget which) with a laggy 100 gig ide hd |
| 19:00.17 | hyperChipmunk | now that i've seen the engineering mount, though, i'm reeeeally tempted to upgrade |
| 19:00.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's THAT good >8P |
| 19:00.23 | kenlyric | why would a mobo from 2002 have ddr2? |
| 19:00.23 | Nefarion | pentium 4 2600 |
| 19:00.29 | kenlyric | my mobo from 2004 doesn't have ddr2. |
| 19:00.30 | dashkal | Nefarion: Oh yeah, that about described the first machine I played wow on |
| 19:00.33 | Gnarfoz | Nefarion: urgh, that's like... the worst h/w combo you can have :< |
| 19:00.35 | Nefarion | that *doesn't* |
| 19:00.46 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 19:00.47 | kenlyric | why would it? |
| 19:00.53 | Nefarion | it wouldn't... |
| 19:01.12 | Nefarion | nvm >( |
| 19:01.14 | kenlyric | so I guess it's a good thing it doesn't. |
| 19:01.17 | Nefarion | *eyes* |
| 19:01.25 | kenlyric | or your computer would be some kind of sentient being from the future. |
| 19:01.29 | kenlyric | and... *fear* |
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| 19:01.48 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: it can't even render wow at a decent frame rate, let alone it be sentient :D |
| 19:02.08 | Obelixprim1 | how does XML relate to Lua? |
| 19:02.13 | kenlyric | "so I guess it's a good thing it doesn't." |
| 19:02.14 | Nefarion | it doesn't |
| 19:02.19 | Nefarion | wow just uses xml in addition to lua |
| 19:02.20 | Gnarfoz | Obelixprim1: it doesn't, really |
| 19:02.35 | kenlyric | I missed DDR2 and PCI-e being mainstream by a couple months. |
| 19:02.42 | Obelixprim1 | Nefarion: That's what I was getting at... I'm reading the WoWWiki site and they mention xml a lot |
| 19:02.46 | kenlyric | so, yay, I get to upgrade the whole thing again. |
| 19:02.46 | Nefarion | xml is used to create frames in a mark-up style and of course is entirely optional |
| 19:02.57 | Obelixprim1 | ok |
| 19:03.02 | Obelixprim1 | what about for storage |
| 19:03.13 | kenlyric | half the mobos they make now don't even have an ide channel for hard drives. |
| 19:03.16 | Nefarion | wow's preferred method of frame creation for the default ui uses xml. the advantage to using the lua api for it is on-demand creation though. |
| 19:04.38 | Nefarion | Obelixprim1: storage? |
| 19:04.54 | Obelixprim1 | savedvariables type stuff |
| 19:05.09 | Nefarion | that's done in the toc and saved as normal lua variables |
| 19:05.28 | Nefarion | someSavedVar = someValue; -- that will save when you reload or logout |
| 19:05.50 | Nefarion | if you register the saved var and do the setting *after* the event ADDON_LOADED (for your addon) |
| 19:06.53 | Obelixprim1 | so, information that I gather in game can only be stored to my savedvariables directory |
| 19:07.08 | Nefarion | yes |
| 19:07.33 | dashkal | yep. Harvesting addons store data to savedvariables, and the uploader reads those files |
| 19:07.47 | Nefarion | and remember about data that wow is sandboxed. you can't access files outside of its main folder (including internet files), and can't create files from in-game |
| 19:08.39 | Obelixprim1 | what would be a good editor for lua, notepad2/notepad++? |
| 19:08.50 | Nefarion | notepad++ is my fav |
| 19:08.52 | Obelixprim1 | also, for a small project like the one I want to undertake is source control really necessary? |
| 19:08.53 | hyperChipmunk | vi |
| 19:08.55 | dashkal | Scite is pretty good. I'm insane, though. I use Eclipse |
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| 19:09.26 | hyperChipmunk | Obelixprim1: wowace provides distribution as well as SCM |
| 19:09.32 | hyperChipmunk | so it's handy that way |
| 19:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need to |
| 19:09.50 | hyperChipmunk | but some prefer to go that route |
| 19:10.14 | Obelixprim1 | it's not really for distribution i would say although I haven't really seen anything that compares to it |
| 19:10.29 | Obelixprim1 | and I think other guilds would definitely find it useful |
| 19:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | it is, if you're lazy |
| 19:10.34 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:10.36 | hyperChipmunk | the addon |
| 19:10.59 | Obelixprim1 | yeah lol |
| 19:11.49 | dashkal | I'm tempted to sign up for SVN myself, but I'm thinking I should do it locally until I have something substantial. I'd rather not spam this channel with commits all the time while things are just forming |
| 19:12.04 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:12.05 | Obelixprim1 | my feelings exactly |
| 19:12.12 | hyperChipmunk | never stopped any of us >8) |
| 19:12.23 | dashkal | heh. I'm one of those who commits often |
| 19:12.35 | hyperChipmunk | have you SEEN the revision # on the svn? |
| 19:12.35 | Obelixprim1 | wowace uses svn right? |
| 19:12.39 | dashkal | ooo, code works. *commit*. next feature |
| 19:12.48 | dashkal | uh huh, but that's for how many projects? |
| 19:13.05 | Obelixprim1 | dashkal: its not even code works usually, its "oooo, code compiles" *commit* |
| 19:13.28 | dashkal | *snickers* given that SVN here appears to be 'released to WAU' I'd rather have things working |
| 19:14.12 | hyperChipmunk | only the trunk |
| 19:14.19 | hyperChipmunk | (yes, that's totally backwards) |
| 19:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | we're fixing that |
| 19:14.39 | dashkal | Oh? sweet. That works then. |
| 19:15.30 | dashkal | I have a question about AceComm. The documentation states you won't get your own messages (so broadcasting on guild doesn't loop back to you). Does this apply to WHISPERing yourself? |
| 19:15.36 | Obelixprim1 | OnUpdate basically redraws the frame for every frame per second? |
| 19:15.50 | hyperChipmunk | but until we roll out the new svn, branches hold all the in-development stuff |
| 19:16.09 | hyperChipmunk | OnUpdate runs your code every frame, yeah |
| 19:16.28 | dashkal | Eh, I can work with the dev branch and the once in awhile svn cp/merge/whatever to trunk bit. |
| 19:17.07 | hyperChipmunk | generally, that's how its done |
| 19:17.13 | hyperChipmunk | then you do bugfixes in trunk |
| 19:17.28 | hyperChipmunk | when you make a new version, you make a new branch and work from there |
| 19:17.29 | Cryect | Thats in theory how its done ;0 |
| 19:17.53 | Cryect | In actuality, use trunk to test everything! |
| 19:18.00 | hyperChipmunk | then you move it to trunk with a new name or over the old, depending on which you prefer |
| 19:18.03 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 19:18.23 | hyperChipmunk | then there's people who actually use trunk like every other project ever |
| 19:18.40 | dashkal | heh |
| 19:18.56 | dashkal | I'd expect trunk to be off-limits and I'd put a flag on branches that WAU could 'see' |
| 19:19.15 | dashkal | but that sounds too complex given how many projects you have in that SVN |
| 19:19.18 | hyperChipmunk | well that would be tags |
| 19:19.25 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, the svn has kinda grown |
| 19:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | and wau was added later |
| 19:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | with hindsight, we're re-organizing it all |
| 19:20.11 | hyperChipmunk | kael's been putting a lot of effert into it, but i don't have an estimate as to when it will be converted |
| 19:20.30 | dashkal | no worries. I have nothing worth asking for SVN yet anyway so I'm content to wait |
| 19:20.42 | Josh_Borke | effort |
| 19:21.00 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 19:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 19:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 19:21.15 | [Ammo] | effert sounds much more sophisticated |
| 19:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, the gist i think is that each project will be a separate repo, with its own rev #s and subdirs, including a "release" subdir |
| 19:22.04 | dashkal | Anybody know about that AceComm whisper question I asked? I'd test it myself but I don't have access to wow at this moment |
| 19:22.27 | hyperChipmunk | which would work like tags, but reserved for releases, which i assume will be what is picked up for WAU |
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| 19:22.40 | dashkal | hyperChipmunk: ooo, sweet. I was honestly surprised by the current organization when I first poked at trac. That would make more sense |
| 19:23.22 | whizter | is there a small compressor except sanity2 for stacked items in the bags? the one from baggins doesn't seem to work |
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| 19:23.33 | hyperChipmunk | dashkal: yeah, the situation now has evolved from a much more basic beginning |
| 19:23.47 | Kemayo | whizter: BankStack |
| 19:23.52 | whizter | thx |
| 19:23.53 | dashkal | hyperChipmunk: If you're processor-constrained rather than space-constrained, you might consider a post commit hook to just package up zips of anything committed to release branches for WAU to nab |
| 19:24.08 | hyperChipmunk | and things have sort of been patched on with duct tape as time went on |
| 19:24.24 | Kemayo | (Naked self-promotion: check!) |
| 19:24.31 | hyperChipmunk | dashkal: that's probably already done |
| 19:24.41 | hyperChipmunk | we used to do it with trunk |
| 19:25.03 | hyperChipmunk | everytime a commit was made, zips were re-created |
| 19:25.19 | dashkal | heh, nice. I noticed complaints in the wiki about how expensive SVN checkouts were. Got me thinking about that |
| 19:25.34 | hyperChipmunk | it got too congested with libraries updating, though, so now it runs at :00, :20, and :40 past the hour |
| 19:26.09 | dashkal | Oh, just to be sure on this: As I downloaded ace itself through WAU, does that mean I can now update without externals? |
| 19:27.52 | dashkal | I use a _lot_ of addons, so anything I can do to reduce load seems like a good idea |
| 19:28.28 | Obelixprim1 | i've always installed without externals but download dependencies |
| 19:29.01 | dashkal | I just blindly followed the "If you don't know what you're doing, say yes" suggestion |
| 19:29.22 | Kemayo | You can update without externals regardless of whether you've downloaded Ace2 or not. Most of the updaters out there will automatically download dependencies (like Ace2 or the various other libs) if you get the no-externals zips. |
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| 19:31.10 | dashkal | hmm, good to know then. I'll have to change that flag before I update tonight. |
| 19:33.18 | Industrial | Why do people keep posting "what addon is causing X"? binary search binary search binary search. |
| 19:33.27 | Industrial | and "What are cool addons?" |
| 19:33.33 | NightHawkAtWork | Industrial: people are idiots. |
| 19:33.56 | Industrial | go awai :< |
| 19:34.09 | durcyn | ou're talking about people that have problems with doorknobs, Industrial. |
| 19:34.11 | durcyn | you* |
| 19:34.39 | Industrial | so post doorknob FAQ's, delete all other replies and lock the thread. The dumb will stop. |
| 19:34.58 | NightHawkAtWork | you can't stop the dumb |
| 19:35.02 | Industrial | that's what I'd do |
| 19:36.49 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkAtWork: great quote material right there |
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| 19:39.21 | CIA-7 | 03nimbal * r54106 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-7 | Buffalo2 (branch): |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-7 | * repaired unit scanning on container enabling |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-7 | * minor optimizations |
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| 19:43.43 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54107 10BigWigs_NajAssist/ (. BigWigs_NajAssist.lua): BigWigs_NajAssist: various tweaks, only display people in black temple |
| 19:43.46 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: thanks? :P |
| 19:44.58 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54108 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: remove debug |
| 19:45.16 | CIA-7 | 03nimbal * r54109 10Buffalo2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:45.16 | CIA-7 | Buffalo2: |
| 19:45.17 | CIA-7 | * merging branch into trunk |
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| 19:50.41 | dashkal | Well this is annoying, I can't seem to figure out how to get SubClipse to download without externals |
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| 19:58.27 | Industrial | Question: Why can libs be embedded into addon objects? |
| 19:58.33 | Industrial | er, with Ace3 that is |
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| 20:01.23 | Industrial | [Ammo]: :D? |
| 20:02.00 | Industrial | oh wait, I'm dumb |
| 20:02.00 | Industrial | never mind |
| 20:02.00 | Industrial | really really dumb |
| 20:02.05 | ag` | oh why? :( |
| 20:03.02 | Antiarc | Woooo! |
| 20:03.02 | Industrial | cus I totally forgot I can choose what libs to embed with ace addons not having used Ace2 for over 1.5 years |
| 20:03.07 | Industrial | ;D |
| 20:03.11 | Antiarc | Human sword/mace racial is back to 5 Expertise |
| 20:03.17 | Antiarc | And if you wield sword/mace, you get 10 expertise from it |
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| 20:03.25 | Antiarc | Meaning combat rogues can hit 20 expertise without any itemization |
| 20:03.34 | Antiarc | Daaaahahaha. |
| 20:05.21 | ag` | Industrial: Well, don't let the Ace name fool you... Ace3 is worth looking at :D |
| 20:06.23 | Industrial | ag`: thats what I'm currently doing |
| 20:11.02 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54110 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua: BigWigs_NajAssist: should actually work now |
| 20:19.00 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54111 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: Remove health scan code, see BigWigs_NajAssist |
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| 20:27.40 | Obelixprim1 | is it possible to have a spreadsheet type control within a frame? |
| 20:30.07 | NeoTron | Antiarc: seems like a bug |
| 20:30.30 | Antiarc | NeoTron: No doubt, but a tasty one. |
| 20:30.48 | Antiarc | That puts human combat rogues at -5% dodge/parry with no itemization. |
| 20:30.55 | Xinhuan | Obelixprim1: write one :) |
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| 20:31.20 | Obelixprim1 | lol |
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| 20:32.42 | dashkal | meh, no --ignore-externals is eclipse for now. I likes this not. Guess I'm stuck with tortise for simple poking at code. |
| 20:33.32 | dashkal | s/is/in/ |
| 20:35.14 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54112 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:35.14 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:35.14 | CIA-7 | -Fixed scaling issues |
| 20:35.14 | CIA-7 | -Changed buttons to all scale at once, instead of individually |
| 20:35.54 | Killmore | Antiarc: good for pvp but useless for good rogue in pve who know how work mechanic :P |
| 20:36.05 | Antiarc | Killmore: Uh...no. |
| 20:36.09 | Antiarc | Mobs can dodge from behind. |
| 20:36.30 | Ellipsis | hayyyyy Antiarc just the dev I wanted to annoy |
| 20:36.32 | dashkal | A fact that annoys me to no end |
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| 20:36.36 | Antiarc | *hide* |
| 20:36.52 | Ellipsis | the good news is, no more invisible dead spots when disabled |
| 20:36.55 | Antiarc | 20 Expertise Rating means that level 70 mobs can't dodge you anymore |
| 20:36.59 | Ellipsis | the bad news is, invisible dead spots when enabled! |
| 20:37.02 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:37.09 | Antiarc | Baaaaah. |
| 20:37.13 | Antiarc | Okay. Thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 20:37.54 | Ellipsis | yeah...basically after a fight (with a raid or something so there's lots of bars) when the meter resets and becomes tiny again, all the bars are invisibly still blocking the mouse...and indeed, you can get pullout bars when there are no bars |
| 20:38.10 | Xinhuan | can someone explain what "expertise" does in 2.3? |
| 20:38.37 | Antiarc | 1 point of expertise reduces your target's chance to dodge/parry by 0.25% |
| 20:38.39 | Ellipsis | oh, and it's a known bug that sometimes causes tanks to not show up on the meter for a while, right? |
| 20:38.49 | Antiarc | You need 3.9 points of Expertise Rating per 1 point of Expertise |
| 20:38.53 | Xinhuan | when you say dodge/parry, you mean 0.25% to both? |
| 20:39.01 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 20:39.12 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: Known, and I suspect a conflict with another mod, though I can't for the life of me nail down which yet |
| 20:39.24 | Ellipsis | any info I can provide to help? |
| 20:39.35 | Antiarc | If you can get a list of mods your tank is running, that would be most helpful |
| 20:39.51 | Antiarc | Also, you could run FuBar_AddonSpamFu and see if they are running some addon that is sending lots of net traffic |
| 20:39.52 | Ellipsis | I'll give that a try |
| 20:40.22 | Ellipsis | the weird part was, he didn't show up on the meters for any of the trash, but he showed up fine on the boss |
| 20:40.55 | Ellipsis | may have been because he uses KTM though |
| 20:41.01 | Ellipsis | stupid KTM >_> |
| 20:41.15 | Antiarc | That sounds like a master target issue |
| 20:41.26 | Antiarc | Wherein the master target got set properly on the boss |
| 20:41.46 | Ellipsis | I doubt they bothered with master target (we were 5manning Onyxia) but it's possible |
| 20:42.20 | Antiarc | KTM does some auto-master target stuff |
| 20:42.24 | Ellipsis | lovely |
| 20:42.48 | Ellipsis | I'll have to download fubar_threat and keep an eye on it next time I see that bug |
| 20:42.52 | Ellipsis | thanks for the help <3 |
| 20:43.27 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 20:43.38 | RaydenUni | so i suggested to my guild that we start pooling money to buy epic flying mounts |
| 20:43.43 | RaydenUni | some people are adamantly opposed |
| 20:44.02 | Xinhuan | can a mob dodge if you're behind it? |
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| 20:44.06 | Ellipsis | ...why don't you just do it the normal way and ask your friends for loans? |
| 20:44.27 | dashkal | Xinhuan: That's been my experience. I get plenty of dodges from my ravage openers |
| 20:44.31 | RaydenUni | only one of the 10 70's has a mount already |
| 20:44.36 | RaydenUni | so no one has that much gold |
| 20:44.42 | Antiarc | Yes, Xinhuan |
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| 20:44.51 | Antiarc | Players cannot dodge attacks from behind; mobs can. |
| 20:44.59 | Antiarc | Mobs cannot parry or block attacks from behind, however. |
| 20:45.09 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 20:45.15 | Antiarc | At least, not in theory. Backstabs are occassionally parried, but that's a lag thing. |
| 20:45.42 | Xinhuan | what about mobs that are "sitting down" or sleeping? |
| 20:45.43 | RaydenUni | shouldn't backstab be immune to parry? |
| 20:45.46 | Xinhuan | do you always crit them? |
| 20:45.55 | Antiarc | Thus, Expertise allows melee DPS to mitigate the mob's 5.x% dodge chance, and allows tanks to mitigate both the mob's dodge and parry chances, the latter being especially important due to parry's tendancy to reset the mob's swing timer. |
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| 20:47.29 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/07/wow-moviewatch-hard-like-heroic/ |
| 20:47.29 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 20:48.08 | Industrial | local a = LibStub('AceAddon-3.0'):NewAddon('idAddon', 'AceBucket-3.0', 'AceComm-3.0', 'AceConfig-3.0', 'AceConsole-3.0', 'AceDB-3.0', 'AceEvent-3.0', 'AceGUI-3.0', 'AceHook-3.0', 'AceLocale-3.0', 'AceTab-3.0', 'AceTimer-3.0') |
| 20:48.13 | Industrial | too much? :P |
| 20:48.18 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 20:48.24 | Industrial | ^_^ |
| 20:48.46 | Xinhuan | i've yet to see an addon that needs to use all of those |
| 20:48.48 | Xinhuan | even in ace2 |
| 20:48.54 | Industrial | .. I |
| 20:48.58 | Industrial | I'm testing it out |
| 20:49.00 | Josh_Borke | what are you using hook and comm for? |
| 20:49.14 | Industrial | ~gag Josh_Borke |
| 20:49.15 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Josh_Borke and, as an additional precaution, sews Josh_Borke's mouth shut permanently... |
| 20:49.22 | Antiarc | Threat would use most all of those, save maybe the GUI stuff. |
| 20:49.28 | Xinhuan | bigwigs is about as close as i can get to an addon using all those components |
| 20:49.37 | Industrial | < Industrial> I'm testing it out |
| 20:49.38 | Xinhuan | yeah bigwigs/threat |
| 20:49.49 | [Ammo] | no way |
| 20:49.54 | [Ammo] | bigwigs won't use all of those |
| 20:49.55 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: update Recount so I can resize the deathlog window |
| 20:49.59 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.38 | Xinhuan | are you planning to upgrade bigwigs to ace3 anytime soon? |
| 20:50.45 | lolinternet | play |
| 20:50.46 | lolinternet | erm |
| 20:50.47 | lolinternet | what |
| 20:50.50 | lolinternet | i wanted to write okay |
| 20:50.53 | lolinternet | why did i write play? |
| 20:50.54 | lolinternet | nevermind. |
| 20:50.55 | lolinternet | anyway |
| 20:51.00 | Funkeh` | libs need done first, Xinhuan |
| 20:51.03 | Josh_Borke | quit spamming |
| 20:51.09 | Josh_Borke | ~lart lolinternet |
| 20:51.09 | purl | turns lolinternet into a lifesized tux doll |
| 20:51.29 | lolinternet | i need an addon to extend my ignorelist. i want it to be able to import linux killfiles for no apparent reason |
| 20:51.45 | Xinhuan | which libs does bigwigs use that isn't part of ace2 core? |
| 20:51.57 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, check the toc |
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| 20:52.25 | Xinhuan | hmmmm |
| 20:52.33 | Xinhuan | that's quite a lot |
| 20:55.14 | Xinhuan | if only the Internet can really be turned into a lifesized tux doll :> |
| 20:55.35 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 20:55.49 | Ellipsis | and what exactly would you do with said tux doll? |
| 20:56.04 | durcyn | he'd make a hole. what did you think he'd do? |
| 20:56.10 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
| 20:56.19 | Industrial | I'm getting this on AceConfig-3.0; Usage: EmbedLibrary(addon, libname, silent, offset): 'libname' - Library '%s' is not Embed capable |
| 20:56.23 | Industrial | correct? |
| 20:56.58 | [Ammo] | correct, but the %s should have been filled in :) |
| 20:57.19 | Xelopheris | GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)*0.04 <<-- that returns my crit reduction from defense, but how do I get my critical strike chance reduction from resil? |
| 20:57.20 | Xinhuan | it means someone was lazy |
| 20:57.26 | Industrial | yes, I copied that from the lua file cause I don't have an error addon installed :P |
| 20:57.32 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 20:58.47 | Xinhuan | try CR_CRIT_TAKEN_MELEE |
| 20:59.18 | Xinhuan | should return the same values as CR_CRIT_TAKEN_RANGED and CR_CRIT_TAKEN_SPELL |
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| 21:00.07 | Xelopheris | thanks |
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| 21:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian |
| 21:07.19 | sag_ich_nicht | the calculations for SoC are still wrong |
| 21:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | unarmed is all wrong |
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| 21:11.19 | Industrial | wtb Ace3ExampleAddon making use of every Ace3 lib :3 |
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| 21:13.24 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54113 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-7 | -Added the ability to move a button's position around the sphere. |
| 21:14.45 | NeoTron | Wow some people really have too much time on their hands http://lolcatbible.com/ |
| 21:16.35 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r54114 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 21:17.21 | Industrial | moot argument on the internet. |
| 21:17.28 | Xinhuan | "Wen the day of the Pentecost came, tey wer all tewgedder in wun plase. OMG! Lowd noysez frum abuv! the noyse sounded like the big windz frum the ceilin, lol." |
| 21:17.38 | Xinhuan | i randomly clicked on a link and a chapter lol |
| 21:17.41 | Xinhuan | and that's the first line |
| 21:17.41 | NightHawkAtWork | http://weboggle.shackworks.com/ |
| 21:17.58 | Tuller | Industrial: I think the best you'll get is probably AGUF |
| 21:18.04 | Industrial | Tuller: right |
| 21:18.31 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: finally a version I can actually bring myself to read! |
| 21:18.33 | Ominous | Industrial: ClassTimer uses a few too |
| 21:18.49 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.56 | NeoTron | == An Sarah sayed, "Ceiling Cat bringz teh LOLz!!1!1!!!eleventeen!!!17 Whoda thunk it?? Im all old, but Ceiling Cat restorded ma ovaries." == |
| 21:19.01 | dylanm | This must've taken a while |
| 21:19.07 | NeoTron | it's not complete |
| 21:19.26 | Xinhuan | you know what's the scary part? I think its actually all hand translated |
| 21:19.30 | dylanm | Noticed that. I was all pumped for the end of Leviticus but nooo. |
| 21:19.32 | Xinhuan | and not by using a script |
| 21:20.04 | NeoTron | yeah it prettu much has to be |
| 21:20.08 | Ozguli | do you read this comic? |
| 21:20.10 | Ozguli | http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/latest# |
| 21:20.11 | NeoTron | not like it's a pure "word for word" translation |
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| 21:27.04 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54115 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Possible fix for messages not hiding when UI is hidden. |
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| 21:33.51 | Hjalte | Anyone knows why Blizzard changed Hypothermia back to 30 seconds? |
| 21:34.17 | NivFreak | because the mages QQ'd |
| 21:37.56 | Amadeo | yep |
| 21:38.24 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r665 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Added Silithus-Ally, partially playtested. |
| 21:40.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Silithus-ally. sounds like a cheap, yet highly disturbing, bug-related side-show game at a carnival. |
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| 21:42.15 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r54116 10FlexBar2/Keybindings/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix nil error |
| 21:43.11 | Obelixprim1 | so, do dkp-eseque strings work for gimp data storage? |
| 21:43.36 | Obelixprim1 | like if i have just a string of xml tags |
| 21:43.46 | Obelixprim1 | and i just cut and paste it into a prompt in my addon |
| 21:44.11 | Obelixprim1 | <WishlistList lastUpdated="4031913"><Wishlist legionName="Obelixprime"><ItemID isLooted="false" rank="1">32237</ItemID></Wishlist></WishlistList> |
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| 21:44.31 | Obelixprim1 | could i convert that string into a table easily? |
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| 21:46.07 | Josh_Borke | string.find or string.gfind |
| 21:49.45 | CIA-7 | 03xuerian * r54117 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: We REALLY don't need to debug Link All. Works at the moment. |
| 21:50.14 | Tem | Hjalte, because 45 seconds was rediculous |
| 21:51.53 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54118 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.toc: BigWigs_NajAssist: toc tweak |
| 21:52.09 | Amadeo | Did it really change that much? The change either way seemed pointless |
| 21:52.49 | Hjalte | Tem: So is 30 seconds for anyone not a frost mage. |
| 21:53.36 | Tem | Amadeo, it is currently possible in formats such as 3v3 and 2v2, to stall long enough after exiting ice block to get another one off |
| 21:53.49 | Tem | but you have to out-skill your opponent |
| 21:53.53 | Tem | this is, imo, fine |
| 21:53.59 | Tem | at 45 seconds, it's impossible |
| 21:54.38 | Amadeo | I dunno, I feel like Blizzard doesn't really know what they want to do with the game sometimes |
| 21:54.47 | Amadeo | Early on they said they didn't want any CC in PvP |
| 21:54.53 | NightHawkAtWork | As far as pvp goes, they really don't |
| 21:54.54 | Amadeo | then they add stuff like Cyclone |
| 21:54.57 | durcyn | Amadeo: please everyone all of the time. and they don't know thye can't. |
| 21:55.00 | durcyn | they* |
| 21:55.16 | Amadeo | and invulnerability is just as bad as CC, for any class |
| 21:56.53 | aestil | so KT gets nurfed on tuesday? |
| 21:58.10 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 21:58.19 | Ellipsis | I wish people would stop "helping" me while I'm farming :| |
| 21:58.46 | Ellipsis | just because the mob I feared aggrod 3 more doesn't mean I'm in trouble. that's faster than running around pulling them myself. :( |
| 21:59.39 | |Stan| | lol |
| 22:00.08 | Amadeo | let them help you as long as you tap it |
| 22:00.13 | Amadeo | then just aggro more and more |
| 22:00.15 | Amadeo | make them do all the work |
| 22:00.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: chances are it's not them helping, but trying to steal the tap so they can actually kill something |
| 22:00.20 | Sedai | what are you farming |
| 22:00.24 | Amadeo | aggro like 20 things and say "HELP!!!" |
| 22:00.26 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 22:00.26 | Sedai | silly priests |
| 22:01.09 | Ellipsis | ethereals at the heap |
| 22:01.40 | Sedai | i abandoned my 70s |
| 22:01.43 | Ellipsis | and NightHawkAtWork: there's enough mobs to go around |
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| 22:02.01 | Ellipsis | some rogue just came up and decided to tag one of the 4 beating on me rather than the other ones standing around |
| 22:02.14 | CIA-7 | 03poull * r54119 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 22:02.14 | CIA-7 | PallyPower: |
| 22:02.14 | CIA-7 | - Fixed bug that caused non-leaders not being able to select normal blessings with mouse wheel. |
| 22:02.17 | Ellipsis | I think he forgot I have an AE fear |
| 22:02.23 | Amadeo | maybe he figures it's easier to take yours than run around and pull them himself :) |
| 22:02.32 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 22:02.51 | Ellipsis | I was trying to tag them as fast as I could, but dots only tick so fast :( |
| 22:03.27 | Amadeo | Searing Pain! |
| 22:05.01 | Amadeo | or like rank 1 drain life, that might work |
| 22:12.21 | tinyboom | Paene: you here? |
| 22:12.24 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: It's next patch, that our dots will tag when they are applied, yeah? |
| 22:17.16 | aestil | whats a good mod to show like, trinket cooldowns in a visual way? |
| 22:17.35 | Diao | omnicc does it if you have it on your hotbar |
| 22:17.37 | Diao | trinketmenu does it |
| 22:17.43 | Diao | cooldowntimers does it too |
| 22:18.29 | NeoTron | Hjalte: wishful thinking or true information? I never heard that... |
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| 22:20.00 | Hjalte | NeoTron: True information. |
| 22:20.05 | Hjalte | Lemme find it.. |
| 22:22.24 | Hjalte | Hmm. I'm sure I read it somewhere!.. |
| 22:25.38 | Saroz | lets see if this works Funkeh` |
| 22:25.59 | WobWork | JoshBorke: What do you mean I never finished WheresMyCow? |
| 22:26.09 | WobWork | It's feature complete. thankyouverymuch =P |
| 22:26.11 | JoshBorke | you finished wmc? |
| 22:26.20 | WobWork | What's more to add? |
| 22:26.33 | JoshBorke | splut |
| 22:26.43 | WobWork | that's got nothing to do with WMC |
| 22:26.49 | JoshBorke | it's why you wrote wmc :-P |
| 22:26.55 | WobWork | And? =P |
| 22:27.31 | WobWork | why would I add splut to WMC? |
| 22:27.39 | WobWork | silly Josh |
| 22:29.03 | Cryect | why wouldn't you? |
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| 22:29.32 | JoshBorke | Cryect: gief me resizable deathlog! |
| 22:29.50 | Cryect | uh you kinda know Lua you can do it :- |
| 22:30.16 | Cryect | I should be studying up on some algorithms for interview |
| 22:30.18 | JoshBorke | i've done forgot all my lua skills |
| 22:30.24 | Cryect | haha |
| 22:30.37 | Xuerian | =O |
| 22:30.50 | WobWork | Cryect: That's like putting a performance meter in a enemy cast bar addon |
| 22:31.03 | WobWork | Useful, but completely beyond the scope =P |
| 22:31.16 | Cryect | If KTM can have a performance meter why not@! |
| 22:31.20 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:31.35 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Hmm. I can't seem to find it anywhere, but I am sure I told my friend once that It was in some patch notes that I'd read. This is strange. |
| 22:31.36 | dylanm | WobWork: Major burn. |
| 22:31.46 | WobWork | Cryect: oh. well if my performance meter made my addon work better, I'd certainly have to consider it =P |
| 22:31.52 | Cryect | hshs |
| 22:31.55 | Cryect | haha* |
| 22:32.35 | WobWork | Hjalte: I vaugely recall something like that also |
| 22:32.45 | WobWork | but whether it was just discussion or an actual note I can't recall |
| 22:33.03 | Hjalte | WobWork: I just got the idea that it was an actual note at the time at least. |
| 22:33.04 | aestil | what is WMC? |
| 22:33.12 | WobWork | Where's My Cow |
| 22:33.15 | dashkal | Can someone name a mod that gives me a text box that I can execute LUA from? |
| 22:33.16 | WobWork | is a debugging app |
| 22:33.27 | WobWork | dashkal: ... /script ? |
| 22:33.45 | dashkal | looking for something multi-line. Flexbar had that as a side-effect once upon a time |
| 22:34.21 | WobWork | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7186-WheresMyCow.html |
| 22:34.32 | WobWork | hm |
| 22:34.39 | WobWork | any of the notepad addons? |
| 22:34.55 | Xuerian | dashkal: Tinypad, omnibus |
| 22:35.28 | Orionshock | WMC is nice, but what bout non-mouse-focus frames?? |
| 22:36.03 | aestil | this addon looks like it would have been very useful when building my eePanels |
| 22:36.14 | NightHawkAtWork | UGH. I fucking hate spending an hour fixing something that someone else broke because they're a lazy and crappy programmer |
| 22:36.29 | Xuerian | NightHawkAtWork: What'd you have to fix? |
| 22:36.38 | dashkal | Xuerian: Danke |
| 22:37.09 | WobWork | Orionshock: It tracks by doing a framescan then figuring out if the cursor is within the boundaries |
| 22:37.29 | Orionshock | :( |
| 22:37.44 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: I'll give you a million dollars if you find blue saying dots will tag on application |
| 22:37.48 | Ellipsis | it's not gonna happen |
| 22:38.03 | NightHawkAtWork | Xuerian: someone added a column to the output a stored procedure, but didn't update a -similar- stored procedure to outut the same column. Had I not caught it now, it would have seriously borked up one third of our product, because the code calling that sproc checks for the column, and if the other sproc is used, and the column is not found, well, it chokes and dies. :P |
| 22:38.18 | Xuerian | Geez o.0 |
| 22:38.36 | WobWork | Orionshock: so it will work for non mousefocusable frames |
| 22:38.39 | NightHawkAtWork | Took me about 40 minutes just to figure out where that was even happening, cause it was buried in the authentication stuff in our code |
| 22:38.54 | Cryect | haha |
| 22:39.26 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: that has a better chance of happening than anything else in that suggestions thread. |
| 22:39.36 | Ellipsis | that doesn't mean anything |
| 22:39.47 | Xuerian | NightHawkAtWork: Owch |
| 22:39.50 | Ellipsis | if Blizz listened to suggestion threads WoW would be a very different game right now |
| 22:40.03 | Cryect | all the classes would be walking gods |
| 22:40.05 | Xuerian | Ellipsis: I would have a different shapeshift :( |
| 22:40.24 | Cryect | travel form would have actually got that new model druids were promised years ago |
| 22:40.37 | Xuerian | Yeah, I don't want new form per-se, just new appearance |
| 22:40.41 | Orionshock | humm... i guess they did and now we have a badly nerfed class |
| 22:40.47 | Xuerian | "Pics of your shapeshift thread" <-- epic |
| 22:40.48 | Cryect | Permnant Place Model |
| 22:41.40 | Thrae | Ellipsis: I think if you mean "blindly listened to the suggestions forum", as they do parse the suggestions forum. Of course, the signal to noise ratio is incredibly high ;) |
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| 22:42.37 | Ellipsis | sorry, yes, poor phrasing on that one |
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| 22:42.57 | Ellipsis | I meant "if Blizz could find the meat of the suggestion threads" |
| 22:43.03 | WobWork | If the taurens got a new model for catform |
| 22:43.06 | Ellipsis | there are good suggestions posted which probably should get attention |
| 22:43.07 | WobWork | I'd probably roll a tauren druid |
| 22:43.15 | Ellipsis | but even if Blizz manages to find them, they won't take action |
| 22:43.18 | Orionshock | i' don't know bout that s/n ratio... that NERF DRUIDS from the warrior forums came though loud and clear |
| 22:43.23 | WobWork | cause the current catcow is just wrong =( |
| 22:43.24 | cralor | cat form has a new face |
| 22:43.29 | cralor | in 2.3 |
| 22:43.36 | WobWork | woo, got a ss? |
| 22:43.45 | Aeyan | http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x1/seymourseesmore/mrstkitty.jpg |
| 22:43.46 | Aeyan | Hahaha |
| 22:43.49 | cralor | worldofraids.com |
| 22:44.00 | cralor | has pages of all the stuff coming in 2.3 |
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| 22:44.33 | Sedai | Q_Q |
| 22:45.09 | Gngsk | I would like to be buried with slaves when I die. |
| 22:45.11 | cralor | haha. did u make that? |
| 22:45.27 | NeoTron | always wondered why the druid forms keep their mouths open at all times |
| 22:45.35 | Cryect | lockjaw |
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| 22:45.45 | Aeyan | No, wasn't me |
| 22:46.00 | aestil | i wish they would make trash drops from kara available with heroic tokens |
| 22:46.04 | Aeyan | Just did a google search on druid shapeshift suggestions |
| 22:46.08 | Aeyan | Came up with that |
| 22:46.09 | cralor | oh |
| 22:46.23 | Aeyan | Also had: |
| 22:46.24 | Aeyan | http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x1/seymourseesmore/mrtmoonkin.jpg |
| 22:46.29 | Aeyan | http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x1/seymourseesmore/littlebear.jpg |
| 22:46.53 | WobWork | omg, that kite |
| 22:46.54 | WobWork | so cool |
| 22:46.56 | Thrae | I remember seeing some excellent stag models someone made for Blizzard. Not like they haven't had inspiration from players. |
| 22:46.58 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 22:47.54 | WobWork | awww |
| 22:47.58 | WobWork | so cute =P |
| 22:48.35 | Xuerian | hahahaha |
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| 22:50.50 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 22:51.14 | Ellipsis | I just got paid 10g to help with a group quest that I needed too |
| 22:51.16 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:51.29 | ulic | sweet |
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| 22:53.52 | Ellipsis | I guess pallies must be used to having to pay people to DPS things for them |
| 22:53.56 | charon | evening |
| 22:54.15 | Amadeo | Geared out Ret does decent DPS |
| 22:54.21 | WobWork | Ellipsis: I hear it's a class issue =) |
| 22:54.23 | charon | any recount gurus around? i have a weird issue where some lines in the death backlog show up as just "3T", with the two characters overlapping |
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| 22:55.03 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: he seemed to be prot specced, at least I assume only prot can taunt |
| 22:55.18 | Cryect | Hmmm 3T never seen that before |
| 22:55.21 | Amadeo | That's interesting, Prot usually solos very well, maybe he just didn't want to wait |
| 22:55.28 | Ellipsis | well it was a big elite thingy |
| 22:55.32 | Amadeo | My Paladin is Prot right now, lots of fun, I can kill a billion mobs at once |
| 22:55.39 | Ellipsis | I probably saved him about 20 minutes by actually killing it :P |
| 22:55.44 | charon | Cryect: are you the author? |
| 22:55.46 | Amadeo | haha, possibly |
| 22:55.50 | Amadeo | it does take a while |
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| 22:56.07 | Cryect | charon: Yes |
| 22:56.14 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: What mob was it? |
| 22:56.25 | Cryect | not actively developing it at the moment since I quit WoW but still would check out bugs like that |
| 22:56.28 | Xuerian | charon: Read: That's bad. |
| 22:56.43 | charon | Cryect: i wanted to go to bed but if you have the time/interest right now, i can try to dig up what i can find |
| 22:56.56 | charon | figured it would have to be a known bug since some of my raidmates had it too :-\ |
| 23:00.03 | cralor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.17 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:00.19 | Tse | "In patch 2.3, aimed shot will not only reduces healing done to the target by 50% for a ten seconds, but we're also reducing the shot time by 0.5 seconds." |
| 23:00.21 | Tse | (lawl) |
| 23:00.25 | cralor | lol |
| 23:00.27 | Tse | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856005827&postId=28556789424&sid=1#0 |
| 23:00.38 | Cryect | charon: could you take a picture at least |
| 23:00.41 | Cryect | so I can see what it looks like |
| 23:00.46 | Cryect | might recognize it |
| 23:00.51 | Cryect | in middle of cooking dinner at the moment |
| 23:00.51 | Amadeo | Bleh, I hate the way Blizzard does balance |
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| 23:01.06 | Amadeo | Lets just copypaste all the good class abilities all around! Get rid of any class diversity! |
| 23:01.10 | Tekkub | simplest balance solution: get rid of PvP |
| 23:01.12 | cralor | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.29 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.32 | Amadeo | Tekkub: At this point, it's fine with me, they can get rid of it :) |
| 23:01.42 | Tekkub | because they've not been written yet |
| 23:01.47 | cralor | ok |
| 23:01.58 | cralor | when do you think you will have them up? |
| 23:02.02 | aestil | Tekkub: tour guide is like in game way to do quests in a zone, or something similar? |
| 23:02.03 | Tekkub | whenever |
| 23:02.15 | Tekkub | it's not a "push button instant guide" thing |
| 23:02.18 | aestil | it alows for the creation of in game gudes? |
| 23:02.19 | cralor | could i be of help? |
| 23:02.21 | Tekkub | they get done when they get done |
| 23:02.49 | aestil | like, one could be made for a difficult attunement quest, like all the pre BT attuments? |
| 23:02.52 | cralor | tekkub puts up guides into the addon and u download the addon, basicallu |
| 23:02.53 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_to_create_TourGuide_data_files |
| 23:03.26 | Tekkub | what's the point to pre-BC attunement guides? |
| 23:03.36 | Tekkub | it's like, the ony questline and that's it |
| 23:03.39 | WobWork | completiest? |
| 23:03.58 | Tekkub | MC = one quest... |
| 23:04.04 | Tekkub | BWL = one quest.... |
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| 23:04.04 | aestil | i'm not concerned with whether or not that gets implimented Tekkub . |
| 23:04.18 | aestil | my question, was just to clarify what tourguide is. |
| 23:04.19 | Tekkub | naxx = buy shit... |
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| 23:04.24 | cralor | i'll see what i can get done Tekkub. |
| 23:04.26 | Tekkub | it's a leveling guide |
| 23:04.36 | Orionshock | god im starting to hate the way lua does function calls and variable passes |
| 23:04.40 | aestil | from 1 - 70? |
| 23:04.46 | cralor | almost |
| 23:05.04 | aestil | but thats the point of the mod? to be an in game, free, addon, which is a leveling guide. |
| 23:05.07 | cralor | i'm going to start working on 30-40. tekkub doesn't have that yet :) |
| 23:05.13 | Tekkub | from whatever level I have played on it, or the other guide authors have and I've been able to read over and edit their submissions |
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| 23:05.15 | cralor | pretty much |
| 23:05.35 | Tekkub | yes |
| 23:05.48 | Tekkub | make the written guide (pay and not) look like crap :) |
| 23:05.52 | cralor | any chance of adding profession guide too? |
| 23:05.58 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:06.07 | cralor | why? |
| 23:06.21 | Tekkub | totally different thing |
| 23:06.35 | hypetech | in a zero sum dkp system, if you have 10 people in a raid and 30 people in your guild/DKP Pool and 1 person gets an item that is 100 points (fixed price) does that 100 points get awarded evenly between the 9 remaining, the full 10 in the raid, or the 30 people in your DKP Pool? |
| 23:06.38 | Tekkub | this addon deals with quest sequences, not "craft shit" |
| 23:06.43 | charon | Cryect: gathering stuff right now, i'll have to /msg some of the links if you don't mind (low bandwidth uplinks) |
| 23:06.49 | winkiller | hyperChipmunk: the 10 |
| 23:06.49 | cralor | kk |
| 23:06.55 | winkiller | hypetech |
| 23:06.56 | winkiller | sorry |
| 23:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | wuh? |
| 23:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | /doom |
| 23:07.09 | hypetech | winkiller: ty |
| 23:07.28 | hypetech | haha |
| 23:07.39 | winkiller | he was here first :P |
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| 23:09.18 | Orionshock | wth |
| 23:09.30 | NivFreak | So is there an addon that graphs TPS over a fight? |
| 23:09.37 | NivFreak | or even better, TPS vs rage over a fight? |
| 23:09.42 | hypetech | hmm |
| 23:09.47 | Orionshock | ' if MTable[target] and MTable[target].enabled then ' is returning false?? |
| 23:09.47 | hypetech | does recount track tps? |
| 23:10.17 | NivFreak | not that I can tell |
| 23:10.21 | NivFreak | and not over a timeline |
| 23:10.57 | cralor | Tekkub: in lua, right? |
| 23:11.26 | Tekkub | read an existing guide file, preferrable one of the newer ones |
| 23:11.43 | cralor | from the addon folder? |
| 23:12.11 | Tekkub | where the hell else? |
| 23:12.21 | cralor | lol. dunno |
| 23:12.55 | cralor | just making sure... gosh! O.o |
| 23:13.05 | hyperChipmunk | > CONSULT GUIDE ON ATTUNEMENTS |
| 23:13.06 | NivFreak | so is blizzard unbreaking combatlog throttling in 2.3? |
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| 23:15.58 | Orionshock | ok .. ' (i+1)/2 ' don't concatenate nicely.. |
| 23:16.35 | Tse | buu, any progress? yell if you need help testing n stuff =) |
| 23:16.38 | Orionshock | ok lua is fucked! |
| 23:16.47 | Orionshock | it just don't make no sense. |
| 23:17.04 | cralor | whats a good lua editor? |
| 23:17.37 | ulic | or maybe try tostring((i+1)/2) |
| 23:17.48 | ulic | won't let concat numbers |
| 23:17.52 | ulic | +you |
| 23:18.10 | ulic | lua> "Test"..1 |
| 23:18.10 | cladbot | ulic: Test1 |
| 23:18.15 | ulic | dang it! |
| 23:18.25 | Obelixprim1 | NivFreak: I don't think so.. |
| 23:18.26 | ulic | mabye clads bot is smart enough to do it |
| 23:18.39 | Orionshock | ok, so i do a func call like so; a, b, c = GetMyABC(lang) |
| 23:18.53 | Orionshock | but the thing is it dosn't pass the value of 'lang' |
| 23:19.07 | Orionshock | it passes 'lang' itself! |
| 23:19.10 | Orionshock | .... |
| 23:19.32 | Tekkub | you fail |
| 23:19.33 | JoshBorke | pastey the code? |
| 23:19.38 | Bejitt | you mean the reference? :o |
| 23:19.59 | Tekkub | what is 'lang'? |
| 23:20.01 | Orionshock | ... |
| 23:20.09 | Orionshock | fking 'self' |
| 23:20.10 | Obelixprim1 | what type is it? |
| 23:20.25 | JoshBorke | self is special in lua |
| 23:20.30 | Tekkub | well... if you're having self issues it might be moot :P |
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| 23:21.09 | Orionshock | lua> assert( true == 1 ) |
| 23:21.10 | cladbot | Orionshock: [string "assert( true == 1 )"]:1: assertion failed! |
| 23:21.14 | Orionshock | right... |
| 23:21.21 | Tekkub | true == true not 1 |
| 23:21.42 | Tekkub | 1 EVALUATES as true, but it does not EQUAL true |
| 23:21.50 | NivFreak | so what's the most reliable way to get a large amount of data (say maybe 2 lines per second) out to a file for post processing now days? |
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| 23:21.59 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: saved variable |
| 23:22.06 | Orionshock | well i see what my problem is.. |
| 23:22.07 | NivFreak | doesn't that chew a ton of ram up? |
| 23:22.19 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: you have no way to save data outside of wow besides saved variables |
| 23:22.19 | Tekkub | the ONLY way to get data out is a SV |
| 23:22.28 | NivFreak | JoshBorke: well you could use the combat log before |
| 23:22.35 | NivFreak | but the throttling is sort of an issue |
| 23:22.38 | JoshBorke | you cannot control what gets put in the combatlog |
| 23:22.46 | NivFreak | actually you can |
| 23:22.50 | NivFreak | by writing to custom chat channels |
| 23:22.51 | hypetech | what's a good ace mod that calculates fixed dkp price based on stats? |
| 23:22.52 | NivFreak | and parsing off that |
| 23:22.53 | Tekkub | the combat log isn't a way to get data out.. |
| 23:23.00 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.17 | Tekkub | chat logging ~= combat logging :P |
| 23:23.18 | Orionshock | well odly enough that table return was true, and not the quest title like i expected it to be.. |
| 23:23.21 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:23.22 | NivFreak | ok |
| 23:23.23 | NivFreak | sorry |
| 23:23.24 | NivFreak | chat logging |
| 23:23.26 | NivFreak | that's what I meant |
| 23:23.30 | JoshBorke | oh, ok, chatlogging |
| 23:23.34 | Tekkub | it will always be cached |
| 23:23.36 | Orionshock | !ah ha |
| 23:23.38 | Orionshock | it worked |
| 23:23.46 | Tekkub | because blue doesn't want people doing what you're trying to do |
| 23:23.49 | Tekkub | whatever it is |
| 23:23.58 | NivFreak | I just want to graph data |
| 23:23.59 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:24.01 | WobWork | Sneaksie addonsess coders |
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| 23:24.20 | Tekkub | well you don't get realtime so :P |
| 23:24.38 | Tekkub | stop fucking with your addons and pay attention to the raid |
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| 23:24.41 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:24.47 | NivFreak | this is the point |
| 23:24.49 | NivFreak | I don't want it in raid |
| 23:24.53 | NivFreak | I want to review it later |
| 23:25.04 | Tekkub | later == who cares about caching? |
| 23:25.11 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: SV |
| 23:25.15 | NivFreak | I'm just concerned about memory usage |
| 23:25.17 | Obelixprim1 | ok |
| 23:25.24 | Obelixprim1 | so i was talking to my CO about my wishlist addon idea |
| 23:25.27 | Tekkub | then wipe the SV on load |
| 23:25.35 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: whether you use chatlogging or sv you'll use up memory |
| 23:25.44 | NivFreak | JoshBorke: doesn't chatlog get flushed? |
| 23:25.47 | hyperChipmunk | wtf am i getting people asking for runs through SM on test server? |
| 23:26.00 | Tekkub | flushed like a used tampon |
| 23:26.01 | Obelixprim1 | and he wants to use xml type strings to load data rather than having SV |
| 23:26.03 | JoshBorke | only periodically and not reliably |
| 23:26.07 | NivFreak | sure |
| 23:26.13 | NivFreak | but ok |
| 23:26.21 | JoshBorke | but you'll have to parse out the other chat |
| 23:26.25 | NivFreak | if I basically want "timestamp value value" every second |
| 23:26.31 | NivFreak | printed out to something I can parse later |
| 23:26.47 | NivFreak | wouldn't a chatlog output be less memory intensive? |
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| 23:27.07 | JoshBorke | it's a hack and possible to break later |
| 23:27.21 | NivFreak | So basically what I'm trying to do |
| 23:27.29 | NivFreak | is understand my low threat periods during a fight |
| 23:27.38 | NivFreak | and tie these to encounter events and rage levels |
| 23:27.50 | NivFreak | so I was going to write an initially self-serving addon to do this |
| 23:27.52 | NivFreak | and see how it goes |
| 23:27.53 | JoshBorke | use a saved variables |
| 23:28.15 | JoshBorke | do you understand memory usage in lua? |
| 23:28.20 | NivFreak | no, that's why I'm asking ;P |
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| 23:28.32 | Orionshock | now i just need to localize the table.. and i don't want to :( |
| 23:28.34 | NivFreak | I've not written any lua to date, was just planning on getting started |
| 23:28.35 | WobWork | Obelixprim1: screw that, use what ever format, then have a lua parser parse into XML |
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| 23:28.44 | aestil | theorycrafting question |
| 23:28.45 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: http://www.wowwiki.com/Memory_Usage |
| 23:28.48 | NivFreak | thank you |
| 23:29.04 | aestil | if you are dpsing a kill target, and the next kill target is right there. |
| 23:29.06 | aestil | as a SP |
| 23:29.14 | aestil | [think FLK hunter, and shaman] |
| 23:29.34 | aestil | what is the best way to evaluate the dps of SW:P/VT on the shaman. |
| 23:29.37 | WobWork | flk? |
| 23:29.40 | aestil | DPS, or DPSC |
| 23:29.54 | Obelixprim1 | WobWork: well, the thing is at the beginning of the raid he would take this xml type string and enter it into this textbox i provide and parse it through there.. i would rather use SV though (however I've never done a mod before so I dont' know where to start) |
| 23:30.01 | aestil | yeah, we tank the hunter and shaman right next to each other. |
| 23:30.06 | Orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/branches/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua |
| 23:30.07 | aestil | so the kill target is the hunter. |
| 23:30.13 | aestil | shaman is second. |
| 23:30.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:30.52 | Mezir | 12H14i |
| 23:31.10 | Mezir | can somebody please give me a link to the current ace updater? That would be great =/ |
| 23:31.20 | Orionshock | ~wau |
| 23:31.30 | purl | it has been said that wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 23:31.30 | JoshBorke | Mezir: no colors please |
| 23:31.30 | cralor | Tekkub: when was the last time you updated TourGuide... because I never saw Arathi Highlands in-game... (until i look in the luas) |
| 23:31.54 | Tekkub | I tweak guides almost nightly |
| 23:31.57 | Mezir | thx a lot |
| 23:32.12 | Mezir | and sorry for the colors, sucky script tho |
| 23:32.20 | vhaarr | Tekkub: do you think a lot of the guides will change in 2.3? |
| 23:32.28 | vhaarr | for 20-60, I guess |
| 23:32.30 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:32.44 | cralor | i know the authord are changing it with dustwallow |
| 23:32.47 | Tekkub | I don't plan on doing major changes to them |
| 23:32.53 | vhaarr | sounds good |
| 23:32.59 | Obelixprim1 | is there an ide for lua that has intellisense/autocomplete for methods? |
| 23:33.05 | Tekkub | I figure users will just skip ahead if the quests fall too far behind |
| 23:33.15 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 23:33.28 | cralor | woops |
| 23:33.29 | aestil | anyone using the wws2 addon? |
| 23:33.40 | Tekkub | but since I've not been writing in grinds, I hope they won't fall way behind |
| 23:33.50 | Tekkub | grinds/OMG DO ULDAMAN |
| 23:34.03 | cralor | tekkub: what symbol do you use to seperate each quest? |
| 23:34.17 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 23:34.31 | Tekkub | cralor, changelog, FYI: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/TekkubSvn/trunk/TourGuide?todate=1194471390382 |
| 23:34.55 | cralor | A Foul Magics>>SYMBOL<<A Guile of the Raptor |
| 23:35.04 | cralor | >>symbol<< = the symbol |
| 23:35.09 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 23:35.10 | cralor | its like a box |
| 23:35.16 | Tekkub | box? |
| 23:35.21 | cralor | i cant copy and paste cuz it doesn't show |
| 23:35.25 | Tekkub | ... STOP USING NOTEPAD |
| 23:35.33 | NightHawkAtWork | wts an editor that understands unicode? |
| 23:35.34 | cralor | doh. lol |
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| 23:35.54 | Tekkub | grab scite off wowi |
| 23:35.55 | cralor | i asked earlier for a lua editor... no one answered >< |
| 23:35.57 | cralor | kk |
| 23:38.07 | cralor | kk i got it |
| 23:38.18 | cralor | no more unicode |
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| 23:40.44 | Tekkub | what are the spellbook names for turtle/pig poly? |
| 23:41.13 | cralor | tekkub: can u see pms? |
| 23:41.38 | Tekkub | you have to register to send PMs |
| 23:41.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Tekkub: http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Polymorph#uncategorized-spells ? |
| 23:41.49 | cralor | i did |
| 23:41.56 | cralor | i alrdy sent one to u |
| 23:42.00 | Tekkub | then you need to ident? |
| 23:42.01 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=polymorph&sourceid=mozilla-search#abilities |
| 23:42.05 | Tekkub | I never got one |
| 23:42.09 | cralor | ident? |
| 23:42.16 | NightHawkAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.18 | NightHawkAtWork | read, learn. |
| 23:42.32 | cralor | i alrdy registered with nickserv |
| 23:42.39 | Industrial | identify |
| 23:42.43 | |Stan| | /ns identify yourpwd |
| 23:43.16 | Industrial | /msg nickserv, /ns is evil mirkscript probably |
| 23:43.30 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.42 | |Stan| | mirc is teh evil |
| 23:44.23 | Arrowmaster | usually /ns and /nickserv are actually from the server |
| 23:44.32 | Arrowmaster | not mirc |
| 23:44.45 | |Stan| | but mirc can think that it's a script |
| 23:44.47 | |Stan| | and bug out |
| 23:44.54 | |Stan| | but It won't :) |
| 23:45.21 | cralor | says cralor is already registered |
| 23:45.25 | cralor | (me) |
| 23:45.36 | cralor | says cralor is already registered* |
| 23:45.46 | cralor | ughhh |
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| 23:46.10 | dashkal | . /nickserv is working for me (using chatzilla) |
| 23:46.10 | Tekkub | yes, you're registered, now ident so it knows yous you |
| 23:46.42 | cralor | says password incorrect when i identify though |
| 23:47.01 | cralor | but i tried registering with the same pass and it says cralor is using it |
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| 23:47.31 | Ellipsis | you need to identify using the password you used when you registered the nick |
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| 23:49.59 | Liandra | you can in many clients use "/quote ns" to send "ns" directly to the server, even if you have some alias or script using the /ns command. |
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| 23:51.21 | cralor_ | lets try a new name :P |
| 23:52.18 | buu | Tse: Heh, whups. I got.. distracted. New Terry pratchett! |
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| 23:55.55 | CIA-7 | 03scythxiii * r54120 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/cyCircled_simpleSphere.toc: |
| 23:55.55 | CIA-7 | cyCircled_simpleSphere: |
| 23:55.55 | CIA-7 | - Edited .toc for correct description and author |
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| 23:57.08 | WobWork | new pterry? |
| 23:58.34 | buu | WobWork: "Making Money" |
| 23:58.55 | cralor_ | tekkub: u get a pm? |
| 23:59.16 | WobWork | oh "new" |
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