| 00:00.10 | buu | Ellipsis: Your suggestions are amazing. |
| 00:00.36 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 00:00.45 | Ellipsis | I love to be helpful, what can I say? |
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| 00:02.29 | buu | Ellipsis: I can tell. |
| 00:03.36 | buu | Ellipsis: How would an addon typically get combat log events? |
| 00:03.59 | Poul|Raider | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43482/ -anyone who can find out why it dont work for me, works with player but not mouseover -just slap me |
| 00:04.01 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53971 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua: |
| 00:04.01 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 00:04.01 | CIA-7 | - Missed one |
| 00:06.18 | buu | Oh, I see. |
| 00:06.22 | buu | Shit. |
| 00:06.29 | buu | Sheit sheit sheit and double shit. |
| 00:07.24 | CIA-7 | 03bhigh * r53972 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua Gladiator.toc frame.lua): |
| 00:07.24 | CIA-7 | Gladiator |
| 00:07.24 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.24 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:10.16 | buu | I give up. |
| 00:12.09 | omniwolf | where's WAU 2.0? |
| 00:13.04 | Ellipsis | ~wau2 |
| 00:13.04 | purl | hmm... wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 00:14.37 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: I'm just thinking out loud here, but it's quite possible that if you're dragging a frame, and thus have your mouse over that frame, the "mouseover" unit won't be set to anything. |
| 00:16.20 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: Given that you hide the frame onmouseup, you might want to try scheduling an event for 0 seconds in the future to let the game advance a tick and see whether mouseover is set when that event fires. |
| 00:16.24 | Poul|Raider | thats also my conclusion |
| 00:16.26 | Poul|Raider | but |
| 00:16.55 | Poul|Raider | 135 xhdrag:SetAllPoints(menubtn); 136 xhdrag:Hide(); |
| 00:17.04 | Poul|Raider | dont that mean the frame is moved away and hided ? |
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| 00:17.32 | Poul|Raider | but good idea about scheduling it for 0sec later |
| 00:17.34 | Poul|Raider | or 0.1 |
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| 00:18.27 | Poul|Raider | it was a script i altered from if MouseIsOver(win) then. where its windows instead |
| 00:18.30 | Kemayo | I said 0 seconds just because that means to run it after the game's state advances. We don't really need to wait any time, we just need to break out of Lua to let the symbols update. |
| 00:18.43 | Poul|Raider | ok |
| 00:19.11 | Primer | Anyone know of a mod for altitude/heading/pitch for flying? If not, does the game provide such info? |
| 00:19.19 | Poul|Raider | would that be the same as if i moved the stuff to a function for it self. and then just called the function? |
| 00:19.52 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: Unfortunately not. Calling the function would still be in the same game tick. |
| 00:20.26 | Wobin | Primer: Unfortunately the game does not provide that |
| 00:20.41 | Wobin | There are some attempts at estimation though, I have no idea to the status of those addons |
| 00:20.42 | Primer | not even heading? |
| 00:20.45 | Kemayo | Basically, there's a cycle. WoW does game things, then run scripts. After all scripts have finished running, game stuff is done again. Repeat. |
| 00:21.02 | Wobin | Primer: You could get that from the minimap, no? |
| 00:21.13 | Primer | visually, yes |
| 00:21.18 | Primer | I'd like a number though |
| 00:21.21 | Primer | in degrees |
| 00:21.47 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: For *most* things we don't actually need to care about this cycle. There's occasional bits like the mail system, or moving items in bags, where it does matter. |
| 00:22.17 | Poul|Raider | oki Kemayo, will just try scheduel it, tho i am not much of the idea but cant come up with any better ideas. |
| 00:22.17 | Kemayo | Primer: I believe that Wobin indicates that as the minimap displays your heading you must be able to extract that information from the API somewhere. |
| 00:22.25 | Ellipsis | Primer: you might check out pitchfu |
| 00:22.35 | Primer | Ellipsis: will do, thanks |
| 00:22.37 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: Like I said, I haven't actually *tried* this, so I could be completely wrong. :D |
| 00:22.45 | Poul|Raider | i will try it now, brb |
| 00:23.22 | Primer | well, that takes care of pitch. Just need heading and altitude and I'm set! :) |
| 00:23.27 | dreamss | anyone from west coast having connection issues? |
| 00:23.53 | Ellipsis | that is a very general question |
| 00:25.21 | RaydenUnic | maybe he is looking for a general answer |
| 00:25.37 | Wobin | "Maybe" |
| 00:25.50 | buu | HA HA DOOMED. |
| 00:26.08 | buu | Kemayo: Oh woah, you can schedule events in the future?! |
| 00:26.13 | buu | So.. |
| 00:26.30 | buu | Oh that completely just solved a problem. |
| 00:26.34 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 00:26.43 | Ellipsis | buu, what are you on and where can I get some? |
| 00:26.49 | Poul|Raider | Kemayo, dont seam to do the trick tho. |
| 00:26.57 | buu | Ellipsis: =[ |
| 00:27.08 | buu | Ellipsis: I didn't think about it. But it solves a problem I had quite a while ago. |
| 00:27.20 | Kemayo | Poul|Raider: Alas, then I can be of no help. I am merely theorizing, away from an actual copy of WoW. |
| 00:27.44 | Poul|Raider | :) |
| 00:27.55 | Poul|Raider | well was worth a try :) |
| 00:28.50 | buu | Crap, I think I deleted it. |
| 00:29.50 | Arcaia | wtt 70 rogue for 70 resto shaman -PTR- |
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| 00:32.26 | Bibi` | will sell my soul for a decent BBCode editor, anyone interested ? |
| 00:32.35 | Kody- | no |
| 00:32.52 | Bibi` | not selling it to you, you're already buying way too many things. |
| 00:32.58 | sdouble | is 2.3 coming tomorrow? |
| 00:33.08 | Kody- | give me your soul imo |
| 00:33.09 | Tuller | I'd be surprised, and crying |
| 00:33.26 | Bibi` | yes sdouble, and I'm going to have sex too. |
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| 00:33.38 | sdouble | I'll believe the former. |
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| 00:35.36 | buu | Bibi`: HA HA NO. |
| 00:36.26 | xerawx | 2.3.0.7521 is so buggy |
| 00:36.36 | xerawx | BGs and arenas basically don't even work |
| 00:36.42 | xerawx | items don't show stats |
| 00:36.52 | xerawx | shit is all messed up and broken |
| 00:37.06 | xerawx | it'll be at least 2 weeks imo |
| 00:37.09 | Poul|Raider | Kemayo, i figured out why it dont work(not sure if its linux only or also on windows) but problem is that when mouseup it seams like its over a deadzone, so it first get over a unit when its moved just abit, 1px etc |
| 00:37.50 | Poul|Raider | Kemayo, solution scheduel it in a loop each 0.1 sec until it return a name, maybe break after 0.5sec if not found. |
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| 00:46.42 | Amadeo | Shhh! |
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| 00:51.58 | Arcaia | wtt 70 rogue for 70 resto shaman -PTR- |
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| 00:57.39 | dashkal | *blink* step away from the window and see what looks an awful lot like a netsplit... assuming Chatzilla is really messy when I get dc'd |
| 00:59.15 | Tuller | it is :P |
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| 01:03.06 | Amadeo | everyone IRCs as root these days! |
| 01:03.30 | vithos | i irc from a singleuser embedded system |
| 01:03.50 | durcyn | i irc from your mom. |
| 01:04.33 | Amadeo | it's a neural net, a learning computer |
| 01:05.34 | vithos | your moms are capable of learning? |
| 01:09.00 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53973 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: Make the Flash module more efficient and prettier at the same time. |
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| 01:16.58 | Nefarion | ~seen Industrial |
| 01:17.25 | purl | industrial is currently on #wowi-lounge (7d 6h 55m 14s) #wowace (7d 6h 55m 14s). Has said a total of 232 messages. Is idling for 7h 8m 27s, last said: 'the point is more to have fun then do top damage'. |
| 01:17.25 | Nefarion | did purl die? |
| 01:17.41 | Kemayo | purl dies the death of lag. |
| 01:17.59 | Nefarion | And on the seventh day God said, "Let there be lag!", and it was so. |
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| 01:27.02 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r53974 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua: |
| 01:27.02 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 01:27.02 | CIA-7 | - Don't flash for 0 duration |
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| 01:28.25 | Gngsk | Eggi|afk, ping |
| 01:30.32 | Industrial | Nefarion: Indu<tab> |
| 01:30.56 | Nefarion | Industrial: yeah i'm pretty new to irc |
| 01:31.14 | Nefarion | Industrial: Anyway, what font do you use on your UI dammit? You never told me last time.. |
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| 01:32.28 | Industrial | orly |
| 01:32.47 | Nefarion | yarly |
| 01:33.19 | Industrial | http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/Fonts.zip |
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| 01:33.27 | Industrial | goes into World of Warcraft/ |
| 01:33.35 | Nefarion | awesome thanks man |
| 01:34.10 | Industrial | np |
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| 01:36.32 | Paene | How do you change the state for a frame inheriting SecureStateHeader? |
| 01:37.32 | buu | How do I trigger an event in the future anyway? |
| 01:37.34 | buu | Wait, I know this. |
| 01:38.41 | Nefarion | what? |
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| 01:39.03 | buu | Assessment:ScheduleEvent(copyFightDataEvent, 0.1, Assessment:CompileTag(profile.tag, "string").method(tagData)) |
| 01:39.14 | Nefarion | oh yeah that |
| 01:39.27 | buu | copyFightData is a function name? |
| 01:39.38 | Jaxon | Anyone using ArkInventory? |
| 01:39.40 | buu | Can I replace that with like, Asessment:Foo ? |
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| 01:40.18 | Nefarion | that's the event name *or* the function to run i believe |
| 01:41.00 | Nefarion | easier to use an event name: blah:ScheduleEvent("myEvent",...); ... function blah:myEvent(...) end |
| 01:41.48 | Nefarion | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0 |
| 01:42.11 | buu | Hrm. |
| 01:42.41 | Nefarion | you can also have them repeat |
| 01:43.03 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.36 | buu | Is there an :Unsetscript ? |
| 01:43.48 | fitz__ | SetScript("Thing", nil) |
| 01:43.49 | Ellipsis | setscript(nil) |
| 01:43.50 | Nefarion | something like CancelScheduledEvent(eventName) |
| 01:44.17 | Nefarion | in that case if you used a func and not an event name you need to do CancelAllScheduledEvents (func names may be inaccurate...) |
| 01:44.29 | buu | Ah hah! |
| 01:44.31 | Nefarion | check that page i linked you for exact info |
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| 01:45.09 | buu | My script is now awesome. |
| 01:45.13 | Nefarion | they're basically a simplified version of OnUpdate throttling |
| 01:45.15 | buu | If only I could test it. |
| 01:45.31 | buu | Nefarion: Oh, since you're being so help, do you know of any way to buffer combat log parsing? |
| 01:45.47 | Nefarion | explain..? |
| 01:46.18 | buu | Nefarion: Like, the other day I was aoeing morogrim and at one point we had so much AOE go off that my computer "froze", I'm strongly assuming because of a lua addon. |
| 01:46.32 | Nefarion | lol |
| 01:46.44 | Nefarion | so what, you want to throttle these events somehow? |
| 01:46.48 | Ellipsis | buu: use less addons that parse the combat log :P |
| 01:47.21 | Nefarion | as bad as my comp is i've never seen that. you sure that was your real problem?? |
| 01:47.41 | Ellipsis | it's entirely possible |
| 01:47.50 | buu | Nefarion: Not 100%, but it seems likely. |
| 01:47.55 | Ellipsis | I get 1-2sec lag when SoC spam goes off |
| 01:47.58 | Nefarion | what addons you running? |
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| 01:48.08 | Xelopheris | how do I make an eePanel adjust it's size depending on the number of people in a raid group? |
| 01:48.08 | buu | I think just assessment, but I might also have SWS |
| 01:48.10 | Nefarion | combat log related |
| 01:48.15 | Ellipsis | my computer's absolutely horrible, but buu probably runs more parsing addons than I do |
| 01:48.26 | Nefarion | hmm |
| 01:48.28 | Ellipsis | buu: don't forget SCT type addons, topscorefu, etc. |
| 01:48.34 | Ellipsis | those all parse your combat log as well |
| 01:48.35 | buu | Well, yeah. Those too. |
| 01:48.40 | Stanzilla | topscore fu is gay |
| 01:48.46 | buu | Threat.. sct[d] .. |
| 01:48.53 | Stanzilla | does not want to record shadow word: death |
| 01:48.58 | Nefarion | well afaik there's no way to *stop* events from going through to addons. i guess you could hook their event pick-up funcs though. |
| 01:49.05 | Ellipsis | topscorefu does strange things with binary spells |
| 01:49.17 | buu | Nefarion: It felt *a lot* like a lua script going slowly. |
| 01:49.25 | Amadeo | My game ran awful last night, I just did a huge addon wipe |
| 01:49.37 | Nefarion | <3 your name Amadeo |
| 01:49.41 | buu | I have the same thing, on a slightly smaller scale, happen when I kill a raid boss, I'm strongly assuming due to enabling Assessment's BigWig copy feature. |
| 01:49.54 | Amadeo | Nefarion: Thank you :DD |
| 01:50.04 | Nefarion | simplest solution is to wipe those cpu heavy combat mods |
| 01:50.10 | Paene | how do I change a frames state using SecureStateHeader? |
| 01:50.11 | buu | Well duh. |
| 01:50.41 | Nefarion | Xelopheris: give me a sec |
| 01:51.01 | Nefarion | Xelopheris: I'll check the API and write up a quick script example |
| 01:51.03 | starlon | Yeah, I've been getting that boss kill lag too. |
| 01:51.43 | Nefarion | well i generally get lag on large events and leaving combat but never nearly enough to freeze it long enough to knock me off |
| 01:52.44 | Nefarion | Xelopheris: You there? Are you running eePanels or eePanels2? |
| 01:52.47 | Xelopheris | eepanels2 |
| 01:52.57 | Xelopheris | looking for something just in the eepanels2 scripts |
| 01:53.01 | Nefarion | attach a script like this to the panels |
| 01:53.26 | buu | Ellipsis: Hey, do you have a copy of wow handy? |
| 01:53.27 | Nefarion | er sec |
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| 01:53.37 | Ellipsis | buu: in-game now, why? |
| 01:53.42 | buu | Ellipsis: want to test a mod? =] |
| 01:53.47 | Ellipsis | gulp |
| 01:53.48 | Ellipsis | sure :P |
| 01:53.51 | buu | Yay! |
| 01:53.55 | Ellipsis | what's it do? |
| 01:54.04 | Xelopheris | trying to make my raid frames pretty between shahraz wipes ftl |
| 01:54.32 | buu | Ellipsis: It's a modification to Assessment. |
| 01:54.44 | Xelopheris | buu, you've peaked my interests |
| 01:54.48 | buu | Uhoh. |
| 01:54.53 | Xelopheris | what exactly does it do? |
| 01:55.25 | Ellipsis | er, but see, I don't use assessment |
| 01:55.26 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: you could fix it :D |
| 01:55.33 | buu | Xelopheris: It makes the window bigger when you mouse over it. |
| 01:55.37 | Ellipsis | fix what? |
| 01:55.42 | buu | I hope. |
| 01:56.21 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: topscore fu |
| 01:56.25 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 01:56.31 | Ellipsis | I stopped using it anyway |
| 01:56.32 | Stanzilla | no u! |
| 01:56.36 | Nefarion | THIS:RegisterEvent("RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE"); THIS:SetScript("OnEvent",function() local num = GetNumRaidMembers(); if num == *xAmount* then THIS:SetWidth(*someAmount*); THIS:SetHeight(*someAmount*); elseif num == *someOtherAmount* then ...blah here...; end); |
| 01:56.38 | Ellipsis | it's too buggy and requires an old lib that I don't want to use |
| 01:56.50 | Nefarion | and so on |
| 01:56.50 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: which lib? |
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| 01:56.57 | Nefarion | oh, add *2* "end"s |
| 01:57.08 | Nefarion | THIS:RegisterEvent("RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE"); THIS:SetScript("OnEvent",function() local num = GetNumRaidMembers(); if num == *xAmount* then THIS:SetWidth(*someAmount*); THIS:SetHeight(*someAmount*); elseif num == *someOtherAmount* then ...blah here...; end; end); |
| 01:57.21 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: metrognome |
| 01:57.30 | buu | Ellipsis: http://erxz.com/Assessment.zip |
| 01:57.32 | buu | er |
| 01:57.34 | buu | Ellipsis: http://erxz.com/tm[/Assessment.zip |
| 01:57.38 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 01:57.46 | fitz__ | heh, so, os.time{fields = values} returns a timestamp in the local timezone, so to convert y, m, d, h, m, s to a universal timestamp one needs to convert to julian days, then to a ux timestamp |
| 01:57.50 | fitz__ | fun times |
| 01:58.13 | Ellipsis | buu: fail. |
| 01:58.14 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: hm I don't have metrognome installed^^ |
| 01:58.22 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla o rly? o.O |
| 01:58.29 | Stanzilla | yarly |
| 01:58.31 | Ellipsis | mebbe someone fixed it since then |
| 01:58.36 | Ellipsis | haven't used it in a few months tbh |
| 01:59.38 | Nefarion | "Clearly, the McWarrior is underpowered." Kalgan strikes again. |
| 01:59.42 | buu | Ellipsis: Er. |
| 01:59.48 | buu | Ellipsis: http://erxz.com/tmp/Assessment.zip |
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| 02:01.13 | Xelopheris | What's the API to take the maximum value of two numbers? Just max(num1,num2) right? |
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| 02:02.24 | Nefarion | lua> max(1,2) |
| 02:02.24 | cladbot | Nefarion: 2, |
| 02:02.28 | Nefarion | mhmm |
| 02:02.31 | Nefarion | =) |
| 02:03.49 | buu | Xelopheris: I suspect I sort of want something like recount, but Assessment's UI is so amazingly sane. |
| 02:04.03 | buu | Ellipsis: Did it work?! |
| 02:06.43 | Nefarion | Glad, Mad?: "After further discussion about the change in patch 2.3 which adds diminishing returns to silencing effects, we've decided to revert the change. Though we do feel that being chain school locked is a problem and plan to address it at some point in the future, we weren't comfortable with the amount of testing this particular change received." |
| 02:07.06 | NivFreak | glad |
| 02:07.41 | Nefarion | rebellion does work |
| 02:07.53 | Nefarion | but now i'm seeing dots everywhere. god-damned shaman. |
| 02:08.14 | Amadeo | I dunno, I think that the entire game needs an overhaul if they want PvP to be worthwhile |
| 02:08.45 | Nefarion | i think we all have our fingers crossed for WotLK, but all expect disappointment |
| 02:09.01 | NivFreak | I want something that'll graph my TPS against my rage over the duration of a fight |
| 02:09.10 | Nefarion | it would be nice to see viable *and balanced* group-arena play, 1v1 play, world raid play, true bg play, etc |
| 02:09.12 | Amadeo | My biggest disappointment right now are all the dead servers |
| 02:09.19 | Amadeo | WoW is basically a single player game if you're not 70 |
| 02:09.25 | NivFreak | Amadeo: play on a non-dead server? |
| 02:09.31 | Nefarion | IMO one class of pvp shouldn't win out as THE pvp for the game. nor should one class of player. |
| 02:09.38 | Amadeo | NivFreak: So I have to spend $25 every time one dies? |
| 02:09.50 | Nefarion | find a real server |
| 02:09.57 | NivFreak | Amadeo: uh, it's not like a lot of servers go from healthy to dead |
| 02:10.03 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 02:10.05 | Amadeo | Basically every PvP EST server does |
| 02:10.08 | Nefarion | servers don't die regularly unless they were extremely under populated to begin with |
| 02:10.15 | Ellipsis | original servers are mostly quite stable |
| 02:10.17 | Nefarion | Burning Blade is perfect ATM |
| 02:10.21 | Nefarion | high pop, good pvp, etc |
| 02:10.22 | NivFreak | Frostwolf is win :) |
| 02:10.26 | NivFreak | but PST |
| 02:10.53 | Nefarion | Burning Blade, Laughing Skull |
| 02:10.53 | Nefarion | both good |
| 02:10.54 | Amadeo | I think I tried Burning Blade, had horrible pings |
| 02:11.02 | Nefarion | i have great pings |
| 02:11.06 | Amadeo | I also have chars on a CST server with 250ms-300ms pings |
| 02:11.11 | Amadeo | not even fun to play there |
| 02:11.14 | NivFreak | where do you live? |
| 02:11.14 | Nefarion | every server has fuckups every now and then. maybe you were unlucky? |
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| 02:11.18 | Amadeo | Maryland |
| 02:11.26 | Nefarion | try Laughing Skull |
| 02:11.34 | NivFreak | well comcast might be your problem |
| 02:11.35 | Nefarion | both are well established and highly populated |
| 02:11.39 | NivFreak | pretty variable |
| 02:11.40 | Xelopheris | For reference: pitbull lakes to change which cluster#s hold what frames. Zoning out of Hyjal, PitBullCluster1UnitButton1 changed from raid to party and vice versa >< |
| 02:12.46 | Amadeo | The real problem is that Blizzard has done nothing about dead servers and for the longest time, continued to create brand new ones |
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| 02:13.08 | Nefarion | IMO they need to merge a lot of servers and STOP creating new ones |
| 02:13.11 | NivFreak | Amadeo: because people scream for new ones |
| 02:13.24 | Nefarion | said people should be savagely bitchslapped |
| 02:13.40 | Amadeo | I currently have characters on the lowest populated realm according to Warcraft Realms |
| 02:13.51 | Nefarion | WR is hardly ever accurate at all |
| 02:13.57 | NivFreak | that site is BS btw |
| 02:14.07 | Amadeo | It seems accurate according to me playing there, I never see anyone |
| 02:14.14 | Amadeo | It's seriously single player if you're not 70 |
| 02:14.15 | NivFreak | Amadeo: check out http://okoloth.blogspot.com/ |
| 02:14.22 | Amadeo | I haven't run across the opposite faction in weeks |
| 02:14.30 | Nefarion | check the realm listings at different points during a couple days of the week. find one that's consistantly "high" or "full" and roll on it. |
| 02:14.35 | Nefarion | *spelling |
| 02:14.40 | NivFreak | The guy spidered the armory |
| 02:14.45 | NivFreak | for population stats |
| 02:14.45 | xerawx | new servers are overrated.. i've pretty much abandoned my 70 i rolled on a "new" server last year and starting over on one of the oldest PVP realms |
| 02:14.52 | Nefarion | i've played on dead server. i know what you mean man. |
| 02:15.19 | xerawx | new players just think a new server is appealing because they don't want to get ganked |
| 02:15.29 | Amadeo | NivFreak: That site says Auchindoun's population is 4,682, Warcraft Realms says it's 4,361 |
| 02:15.36 | NivFreak | Amadeo: cool |
| 02:15.38 | Amadeo | Close enough for me |
| 02:15.48 | Funkeh` | later |
| 02:15.50 | NivFreak | WR's data is pretty variable |
| 02:15.55 | Nefarion | but WR is usually inaccurate with other realms. don't try to compare with it. |
| 02:16.01 | Nefarion | that site is more accurate. why not use it? |
| 02:16.17 | Amadeo | Yeah, just saying...even if WR isn't known as accurate, playing on that server is really boring |
| 02:16.30 | NivFreak | 40% of the people spidered are 70 |
| 02:17.00 | Nefarion | a server with 4k on it is severely low |
| 02:17.09 | Amadeo | You should see the BG queue times |
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| 02:17.18 | Amadeo | 1-2 hours or so, depending |
| 02:17.20 | Nefarion | BB has >15k (and this data excludes level <10) |
| 02:17.23 | Amadeo | Some brackets have nobody in them at all |
| 02:17.28 | NivFreak | blackrock has 20.5K |
| 02:17.29 | NivFreak | holy crap |
| 02:17.47 | xerawx | i made the mistake of rolling on one of the servers that came out right before TBC.. though i didn't roll a BE.. now it's practically all you see on horde side |
| 02:17.59 | xerawx | and there's no alliance hardly at all |
| 02:18.02 | NivFreak | it's all about the release servers |
| 02:18.10 | Nefarion | if you're in est, roll on Laughing Skull or Burning Blade. i have chars on both, get awesome pings with cable internet, have pretty decent queue times and a lot of fun in pvp, etc. |
| 02:18.13 | NivFreak | new servers are a waste of time |
| 02:18.19 | Amadeo | That's the thing, Nefarion |
| 02:18.28 | Amadeo | I have 70's, I don't really want to keep making more chars |
| 02:18.45 | Amadeo | and I don't want to keep spending money on transfers either, I think Blizzard should do something about dead servers |
| 02:18.57 | Nefarion | try to find a good solid guild. even on dead servers there's got to be at least one core guild you can join. |
| 02:19.06 | NivFreak | almost 21K on Kel'Thuzad |
| 02:19.34 | Amadeo | haha, Akama is dead now too |
| 02:19.38 | xerawx | usually on dead realms there's maybe 1 raiding guild |
| 02:19.55 | Amadeo | Akama at release had the highest queue time of any server to date, now it has 4,000 or so players |
| 02:20.09 | NivFreak | yea |
| 02:20.14 | NivFreak | that tends to happen |
| 02:20.21 | NivFreak | Kel'Thuzad is an exception |
| 02:20.21 | Amadeo | So yeah, servers do die :P |
| 02:20.27 | Nefarion | new servers die |
| 02:20.33 | Nefarion | veteran servers stay strong |
| 02:20.59 | NivFreak | Amadeo: they die if they have too much pop and instability for too long |
| 02:21.00 | NivFreak | which is mostly a thing of the past |
| 02:21.17 | Amadeo | Akama is horrible, probably the worst server I've ever played on |
| 02:21.22 | Amadeo | I thought it was from high population at first |
| 02:21.28 | Amadeo | It's just a bad server |
| 02:21.46 | Nefarion | oh wow Greymane died? |
| 02:21.48 | aestil | Amadeo: you contritubted it to be the worst server evar whe you played o nit! ;) |
| 02:22.00 | Nefarion | 3k on it now? it used to be one of the highest pop pve servers, and is old as hell. |
| 02:22.14 | Amadeo | aestil: It was awesome when it was new :) |
| 02:22.30 | Amadeo | at least for content |
| 02:22.34 | Amadeo | world pvp everywhere, etc |
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| 02:24.01 | NivFreak | Amadeo: looks like Akama has 10K to me |
| 02:24.25 | Nefarion | US-side has 4.4k |
| 02:24.46 | NivFreak | are you looking at the most recent one? |
| 02:24.48 | NivFreak | 10,528 |
| 02:24.50 | Amadeo | Wait, there's two listings |
| 02:24.53 | aestil | i'm so happy to be out of TK |
| 02:24.56 | Amadeo | How would it go from 4k to 10k? |
| 02:24.58 | aestil | i was sick of that trash |
| 02:25.11 | NivFreak | Amadeo: armory was pretty new then |
| 02:25.15 | Nefarion | oh right |
| 02:25.24 | Amadeo | I see, I must have skipped the first one for some reason |
| 02:25.36 | Amadeo | Well, I guess Akama's population is decent at least, now if only I didn't lag so much there :) |
| 02:25.41 | Amadeo | I haven't played there in a while though |
| 02:25.52 | NivFreak | it's even in favor of the horde |
| 02:26.01 | Amadeo | That's my Alliance server! |
| 02:26.04 | NivFreak | personally I like being on the lower pop side though |
| 02:26.16 | NivFreak | as long as it's fairly even |
| 02:26.31 | NivFreak | Frostwolf is fairly close to 1:1 |
| 02:26.54 | Paene | Anyone able to explain what's wrong with my states and such? http://ace.pastey.net/76679 |
| 02:29.28 | CIA-7 | 03prbryant * r53975 10Jude/ (. Locale-enUS.lua jude.lua jude.toc jude.xml): |
| 02:29.28 | CIA-7 | Jude: initial commit |
| 02:29.28 | CIA-7 | - Interface enhancement for raid target marking |
| 02:30.00 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 02:30.01 | NivFreak | what's that do |
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| 02:35.50 | Paene | argh |
| 02:36.50 | kenlyric | that's not vague or anything. |
| 02:37.30 | Nefarion | definitely not |
| 02:37.33 | Paene | lol |
| 02:37.58 | Paene | I can't figure out the SecureStateHeader stuff |
| 02:38.27 | Paene | that's what the argh is about |
| 02:38.28 | Paene | lol |
| 02:42.05 | CIA-7 | 03prbryant * r53976 10Jude/ (. jude.toc): |
| 02:42.05 | CIA-7 | Jude: |
| 02:42.05 | CIA-7 | - Updated toc info. |
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| 02:46.52 | Diao | !rating 1940 |
| 02:46.52 | Xinhuan | 1940 rating gives 973(5s), 856(3s) and 739(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 02:51.06 | sag_ich_nicht | someone able to tell me what the new mana cost in 2.3 for exorcism/hammer of wrath/holy wrath is? |
| 02:51.31 | Ellipsis | your mom |
| 02:51.40 | sag_ich_nicht | my mom makes awesome cakes |
| 02:51.46 | sag_ich_nicht | but that's besides the point |
| 02:51.47 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie |
| 02:51.57 | Ellipsis | so is her love |
| 02:52.02 | Paene | ouch |
| 02:52.08 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 02:52.09 | Paene | Ellipsis is being mean tonight |
| 02:52.11 | Paene | :-p |
| 02:52.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis needs to get back under my desk |
| 02:52.22 | Ellipsis | naw, sag_ich_nicht knows I only pick on him 'cause I lub him |
| 02:52.29 | aestil | going to see cake this month at the orpheum |
| 02:52.29 | Paene | lol |
| 02:54.35 | Amadeo | Why does everyone say the cake is a lie? There's cake at the end! |
| 02:54.56 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie... |
| 02:55.19 | aestil | if you only pick on him, cause you lub him, why do you give me lap dances in a g string? |
| 02:55.31 | buu | THE CAKE IS NOT A LIE. |
| 02:55.48 | fitz__ | I can't afford the orange box :( |
| 02:55.52 | Ellipsis | aestil: because I want you for myself, of course! |
| 02:56.00 | buu | fitz__: Portal was possibly the best game I have ever played. |
| 02:56.01 | Amadeo | fitz__: Cancel your account for a few months |
| 02:56.14 | Ellipsis | blasphemy, Amadeo |
| 02:56.31 | Amadeo | WoW's not that fun on dead servers! |
| 02:56.49 | Ellipsis | l2reroll |
| 02:56.57 | Amadeo | http://www.sotirov.com/uploaded_images/birthday-cake-773619.jpg |
| 02:56.57 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 02:56.58 | Ellipsis | come to my server and pwn with me <3 |
| 02:57.11 | buu | Ellipsis: Does that involve gnomes? |
| 02:57.28 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Don't you play PvE? :( |
| 02:57.35 | kenlyric | cake made with twinkies. |
| 02:57.48 | Amadeo | kenlyric: that's what it looks like, rofl |
| 02:58.09 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: you know it |
| 02:58.26 | Ellipsis | buu: I'm scared of gnomes :( |
| 02:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:55] <aestil> if you only pick on him, cause you lub him, why do you give me lap dances in a g string? <--to show you what you can't have |
| 02:58.29 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 02:59.08 | buu | Ellipsis: Gnomes are icky. |
| 02:59.23 | Amadeo | Portal was a great game, just a little easy |
| 02:59.26 | Amadeo | but the concept was killer |
| 02:59.31 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, I don't know what you're talking about |
| 02:59.38 | Ellipsis | there's enough Ellipsis for everyone |
| 02:59.52 | kenlyric | easy? |
| 02:59.54 | kenlyric | easy!? |
| 03:00.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: slut |
| 03:00.02 | kenlyric | the tutorial was easy. |
| 03:00.09 | Amadeo | Yeah, the only difficult level was the last one |
| 03:00.11 | kenlyric | the challenges were... challenging. |
| 03:00.13 | Amadeo | there should have been more like that |
| 03:00.17 | buu | Amadeo: Well, yeah. |
| 03:00.28 | buu | Amadeo: It was like half the game though. |
| 03:00.52 | buu | The 'extra-hard' levels were fun, except for the fucking one where the turrets were protected by cages. |
| 03:00.54 | Amadeo | or wait, no..I'm thinking of the advanced maps |
| 03:01.11 | Amadeo | That was boring, because it took too long |
| 03:01.12 | Paene | Anyone at all know anything about Secure Templates? |
| 03:01.15 | Amadeo | had to move boxes everywhere |
| 03:01.19 | Antiarc | I'm kinda thinking that HL2 Ep. 3 is going to utilize portal technology |
| 03:01.28 | Amadeo | Antiarc: Yep, I agree |
| 03:01.30 | Antiarc | With all the talk of Aperture and the Borealis disappearing |
| 03:01.44 | Amadeo | Plus they have to pay those digidesign kids now! |
| 03:01.55 | Amadeo | can't have em doing nothing! |
| 03:02.51 | kenlyric | and the SDK is out, 3rd party maps are appearing. |
| 03:03.20 | Amadeo | That's gonna be scary, I bet some of those will be hard |
| 03:03.21 | Ellipsis | the third party maps I've seen are actually pretty good |
| 03:03.50 | Amadeo | There's a couple sick videos out there where people beat maps in like 2 seconds |
| 03:03.51 | buu | Amadeo: I completely stopped caring about that levle. |
| 03:04.05 | buu | On a related note, have you seen those custom mario brothers maps? |
| 03:04.09 | buu | Now that is horrifying. |
| 03:04.19 | Amadeo | haha, nope...but I've been thinking about emulation a lot these past days :) |
| 03:06.09 | Amadeo | I still need to play through episode 2 |
| 03:06.12 | buu | Amadeo: http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/19/the-hardest-mario-level-ever-as-played-by-mel-brooks/ |
| 03:06.16 | buu | Probably ignore the sound. |
| 03:06.55 | Amadeo | I think I've seen this video before |
| 03:07.52 | buu | I never thought I'd see wall jumping in a SMB game. |
| 03:07.53 | Amadeo | I like the box by the fire thingy |
| 03:08.00 | buu | There's a link to an actual completion run in the comments. |
| 03:08.18 | kenlyric | i like how it actively punishes you. |
| 03:08.25 | Amadeo | bah, I hate the speed tool videos :) |
| 03:08.43 | Amadeo | "Check out this video of me cheating my way through a level!" |
| 03:08.50 | buu | Well. |
| 03:08.55 | buu | Yeah. |
| 03:09.16 | kenlyric | speed tool? |
| 03:09.31 | buu | kenlyric: You use an emulator and either slow the game or save every frame. |
| 03:11.02 | Amadeo | I miss the first Zelda |
| 03:11.18 | buu | The constant invisible blocks are pretty entertaining. |
| 03:11.22 | kenlyric | duh duh.. dun nunnunu. |
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| 03:13.22 | kenlyric | http://www.virtualnes.com/ |
| 03:15.35 | Amadeo | Where's Zelda!? |
| 03:15.56 | Amadeo | Under L? Wtf! |
| 03:16.04 | kenlyric | Legend of |
| 03:16.17 | Amadeo | The! |
| 03:16.27 | Nefarion | Legend of Zelda, The? |
| 03:16.29 | kenlyric | The doesn't count! |
| 03:16.35 | Ellipsis | Amadeo gets listed under F for Fail. |
| 03:16.37 | Amadeo | it should! |
| 03:16.46 | kenlyric | in my games folder it's Zelda 1.nes and Zelda 2.nes |
| 03:17.06 | Ellipsis | as the daughter of two librarians I can tell you that sorting it that way is actually correct |
| 03:17.19 | Ellipsis | most people get it wrong, though :) |
| 03:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 03:17.30 | Amadeo | Who reads books? I read websites! |
| 03:17.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis that explains a lot |
| 03:17.36 | sag_ich_nicht | FUCK YOU AND DIE IN A FIRE |
| 03:17.46 | buu | Ellipsis: Yeah, but nobody cares. |
| 03:17.57 | Nefarion | "I'ma chargin' mah firebolt" |
| 03:18.18 | kenlyric | how would most people get that wrong? only retards like microsoft sort by The. |
| 03:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis can you travel in l-space? :( |
| 03:18.27 | Ellipsis | um, sure |
| 03:18.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ihateyou |
| 03:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 03:18.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a ton of books here. |
| 03:18.44 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, I don't see what I did wrong :( |
| 03:18.49 | sag_ich_nicht | come here, bitch :( |
| 03:18.55 | Ellipsis | um |
| 03:18.56 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 03:19.02 | buu | Wow. |
| 03:19.04 | Ellipsis | plz2buying plane ticket for me? |
| 03:19.07 | Amadeo | I'm playing Zelda! |
| 03:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i thought you can travel in L-space? |
| 03:19.28 | Amadeo | Wait, how do I move!? |
| 03:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i have enough books here to create an access point :O |
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| 03:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a small one, but it should be enough! |
| 03:19.44 | Amadeo | arrow keys! I haven't used those in ages! |
| 03:20.03 | Ellipsis | k sag_ich_nicht now you're scaring me |
| 03:20.40 | kenlyric | that's why you need a real emulator with a controller. |
| 03:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 03:20.43 | Amadeo | kenlyric: where do I get my PvP trinket? |
| 03:20.57 | kenlyric | Amadeo: did you make Zelda your name? |
| 03:21.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_dimensions_of_the_Discworld#L-space |
| 03:21.27 | Josh_Borke | what's stoppingy ou? |
| 03:21.38 | buu | Amadeo: The capital city.. |
| 03:21.40 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Good idea! |
| 03:21.46 | Amadeo | buu: No, in Zelda! |
| 03:21.56 | buu | =[ |
| 03:22.09 | buu | You pvp in zelda? |
| 03:22.11 | buu | WHAT |
| 03:22.21 | Amadeo | Hey, someone should do that |
| 03:22.24 | Amadeo | Multiplayer Zelda |
| 03:22.31 | sag_ich_nicht | already done |
| 03:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | it sucked |
| 03:22.39 | Amadeo | :( |
| 03:22.52 | Amadeo | I'm not talking about The Wind Wanker or anything, I mean the original! |
| 03:22.52 | kenlyric | diablo |
| 03:23.18 | Amadeo | Diablo was just a platform to test hacks out on |
| 03:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Amadeo: go look up "graal online" |
| 03:24.10 | Amadeo | a futuristic and furious 2d battle game!? |
| 03:24.39 | Paradox_ | graal lawl |
| 03:25.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Amadeo: graal kingdoms, knub |
| 03:25.20 | Amadeo | that doesn't look like Zelda |
| 03:25.37 | Amadeo | That looks like someone watched too much anime and made a video game |
| 03:25.51 | sag_ich_nicht | god lemme find old screenshots of graal online |
| 03:26.30 | Amadeo | I better see Link in tights! |
| 03:26.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://haro_11.tripod.com/graal/graalscreen.gif |
| 03:27.00 | kenlyric | that doesn't look anything like zelda. |
| 03:27.05 | Amadeo | haha, I know |
| 03:27.14 | Amadeo | so everyone plays one class? Zelda!? |
| 03:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you never played on the supernintendo |
| 03:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | did you |
| 03:27.18 | Amadeo | I mean, LInk! whatever he is |
| 03:27.24 | kenlyric | of course I did. |
| 03:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.geocities.com/graalhelp/ny2.jpg |
| 03:27.48 | Amadeo | wall of text crits you for...! |
| 03:28.00 | kenlyric | the backgrounds are vaguely zelda-like but the chars are all off. |
| 03:28.11 | Ellipsis | looks like another 2D MMO to me |
| 03:28.26 | Amadeo | I'm with Ellipsis |
| 03:28.30 | sag_ich_nicht | the characters are off, true |
| 03:28.30 | kenlyric | where are the chickens? |
| 03:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | in the beginning it was even called zelda online |
| 03:28.47 | buu | Fuck you |
| 03:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | until nintendo sued them |
| 03:28.50 | buu | It looks like bomberman |
| 03:28.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and as i said |
| 03:28.52 | kenlyric | Zelda 1 maze was serious shit. |
| 03:28.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it sucked |
| 03:28.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 03:29.02 | Amadeo | Looks like one of the million free Korean MMOs |
| 03:29.48 | Amadeo | Besides, I never had an SNES! |
| 03:30.05 | Amadeo | I had a Genesis ;) |
| 03:30.07 | kenlyric | fail |
| 03:30.11 | kenlyric | oh god, triple fail |
| 03:30.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 03:30.15 | kenlyric | 100x fail |
| 03:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | genesis is super win |
| 03:30.29 | sag_ich_nicht | BEGONE, NINTENDO FANBOYS |
| 03:30.34 | sag_ich_nicht | THIS IS SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 03:30.52 | kenlyric | I liked how they had sonic and more sonic. |
| 03:31.10 | Amadeo | I was into fighting games back then |
| 03:31.18 | Amadeo | hated SNES controllers |
| 03:31.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i liked how they had populus streets of rage golden axe sonic SHINING FORCE, PHANTASY STAR |
| 03:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 03:31.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ecco the dolphin |
| 03:31.56 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 03:31.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (never beat it, fucking hard game) |
| 03:32.01 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 03:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ecco is a good game |
| 03:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | but damn is it hard |
| 03:32.18 | kenlyric | snes had populous, and all those other games fail next to FF4, of course. |
| 03:32.30 | Amadeo | Boo |
| 03:32.33 | Amadeo | Baldur's Gate |
| 03:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | FF4 can blow me, shining force kicks it's ass majorly |
| 03:33.03 | kenlyric | clearly the radiation from the genesis has warped your brain. |
| 03:33.18 | sag_ich_nicht | clearly you have never played shining force |
| 03:33.23 | xerawx | genesis CD x32 mega extreme edition lawl |
| 03:33.35 | xerawx | what were there like 3 games for it |
| 03:33.46 | Amadeo | haha, I remember that |
| 03:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | it was called 32X. |
| 03:34.09 | xerawx | ah right |
| 03:34.18 | kenlyric | sega fanboy go back into your tomb. |
| 03:34.36 | Amadeo | Nintendo was nice, they spawned the PlayStation for everyone |
| 03:34.39 | xerawx | there's an awesome pic of a genesis with like every possible extender, game genie and stuff plugged into it |
| 03:34.43 | Amadeo | since they were too cheap to go CD! |
| 03:35.17 | sag_ich_nicht | game genie? |
| 03:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | cheaters need to be banned |
| 03:35.24 | xerawx | game genie was badass |
| 03:35.26 | kenlyric | Amadeo: that's a good thing? |
| 03:35.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and have their hands cut off |
| 03:35.47 | Amadeo | kenlyric: For Sony, but they're good at killing themselves anyways |
| 03:36.13 | sag_ich_nicht | genesis |
| 03:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | had |
| 03:36.21 | sag_ich_nicht | toe jam and earl |
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| 03:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | there, you can't beat that. |
| 03:37.01 | dylanm | True that game was great |
| 03:37.23 | dylanm | I mean okay it sort of felt like they ran out of money at some point |
| 03:37.25 | kenlyric | sorry, I already beat it with ff4. |
| 03:37.25 | Amadeo | You can't beat E.T. for the Atari 2600! |
| 03:37.33 | kenlyric | I beat all games with ff4. club them down. |
| 03:37.49 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Have you played Baldur's Gate II!? |
| 03:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: go lick squares nuts, FF4 wasn't that great. |
| 03:39.11 | kenlyric | sag_ich_nicht: except where you're wrong, I agree totally. |
| 03:39.33 | kenlyric | Amadeo: yes |
| 03:39.45 | Amadeo | You must like BG2 more than anything else |
| 03:39.47 | Amadeo | You must! |
| 03:40.16 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 03:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | FF4 was toned down |
| 03:40.23 | sag_ich_nicht | into ezmode |
| 03:40.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and then LOL HERE IS UR FINAL FANTASY II |
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| 03:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy your weakling game that is more talk than gameplay while i played a real game like shining force that had BOTH |
| 03:42.19 | kenlyric | sad how that game owned faces even raped down. |
| 03:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 03:42.36 | sag_ich_nicht | shining force > final fantasy |
| 03:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | EOD |
| 03:42.51 | sag_ich_nicht | also hi cogwheel |
| 03:43.16 | cog|away | ohai |
| 03:43.22 | kenlyric | http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/upload/review_img/shiningforcemd2.gif |
| 03:43.22 | Josh_Borke | oh hai |
| 03:43.45 | kenlyric | the only way this game would move me is to deep, derisive laughter. |
| 03:43.54 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 03:43.56 | sag_ich_nicht | play it |
| 03:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | then we talk |
| 03:44.18 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no |
| 03:44.24 | sag_ich_nicht | play shining in the dark first |
| 03:44.29 | sag_ich_nicht | *darkness |
| 03:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | because that screenshot |
| 03:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | you linked |
| 03:45.25 | sag_ich_nicht | is from shining in the darkness |
| 03:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | not shining force |
| 03:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | same lore universe |
| 03:45.42 | sag_ich_nicht | different gameplay |
| 03:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://allspark.net/cypherswipe/ShiningForceGenesis2.png |
| 03:47.40 | sag_ich_nicht | here |
| 03:47.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a screenshot from shining force |
| 03:47.48 | Josh_Borke | hit me with your best shot |
| 03:48.07 | Josh_Borke | why don't you hit me with your best shot |
| 03:48.11 | Josh_Borke | hit me with your best shot |
| 03:48.12 | Josh_Borke | fire away |
| 03:48.44 | sag_ich_nicht | grmbl |
| 03:48.48 | sag_ich_nicht | my torrent is still not done |
| 03:48.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll go to bed |
| 03:48.51 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 03:48.55 | Ellipsis | night sag_ich_nicht |
| 03:48.58 | Ellipsis | dream of me <3 |
| 03:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | u-hu |
| 03:49.09 | sag_ich_nicht | did you read the link i gave you? |
| 03:49.32 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 03:49.36 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 03:49.38 | Ellipsis | if by read you mean skim |
| 03:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 03:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | should be enough anyway |
| 03:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | guess you can't travel in L-space, huh? |
| 03:50.04 | Ellipsis | I wish |
| 03:50.06 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should ask your parents about it |
| 03:50.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 03:50.12 | Ellipsis | maybe I inherited secret powers that will allow me to |
| 03:50.17 | Ellipsis | I just haven't been properly trained |
| 03:50.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that's my point. |
| 03:50.29 | erb | I keep getting an error from autobar core.lua line 248 attempt to concatenate field 'name' (a nil value) |
| 03:50.37 | erb | any idea how to get rid of that short of deleting the mod? |
| 03:50.38 | sag_ich_nicht | just don't get turned into an ape in the process. |
| 03:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 03:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 03:50.47 | Ellipsis | uh...k |
| 03:50.49 | Ellipsis | night |
| 03:51.08 | erb | its really aggravating and i'd love to just do away with autobar all together but i'm not aware of any replacement for it |
| 03:51.13 | Ellipsis | erb: update, and if that doesn't work, revert to an older version until it works |
| 03:51.27 | erb | i've been updating the past 2 days but no resolve |
| 03:51.33 | erb | i can continue to revert and revert? |
| 03:51.35 | Ellipsis | there's PT3Bar if you want to try something different |
| 03:51.38 | erb | i figured it would just go back 1 version |
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| 03:51.55 | Ellipsis | yeah, older zips are available at http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar/ |
| 03:51.57 | erb | pt3bar |
| 03:52.00 | erb | i'll have to try that |
| 03:52.00 | Ellipsis | go back in time as far as you like |
| 03:52.09 | Lukian | who's Rabbit in here? |
| 03:52.14 | Ellipsis | vhaarr |
| 03:52.48 | erb | autobar always gets stuck on me too when i need it most in a raid |
| 03:52.57 | erb | trying to hit my hot key for a pot or healthstone |
| 03:53.22 | Ellipsis | why not make a macro or something for those? or even just drag them onto bars? |
| 03:53.38 | Lukian | vhaarr, ping! |
| 03:54.07 | erb | i get 3 different types of health stones in a raid, plus charged crystal focus and of course regular health pots |
| 03:54.09 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: because that's what you get autobar for :) |
| 03:54.16 | erb | so just for that autobar is what works |
| 03:54.22 | erb | otherwise i'd have 1000 macros and 60 bars |
| 03:54.48 | erb | im going to give pt3bar a try right now |
| 03:55.16 | Arrowmaster | if you only need it for healthpots and such then pt3bar should be perfect for you |
| 03:55.20 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: sigh, don't get me started :P |
| 03:55.27 | erb | health pots, mana pots |
| 03:55.31 | erb | food, water |
| 03:55.51 | Lukian | Droolio, ping! |
| 03:56.00 | Ellipsis | I have one macro for healthstone (because of different ranks) and everything else I just click in my food bag |
| 03:56.05 | Ellipsis | works fine for me |
| 03:56.07 | Arrowmaster | configuring pt3bar is a little tricky at first |
| 03:56.29 | kenlyric | that's awesome for you. |
| 03:56.31 | Josh_Borke | water shield no longer costs mana to cast?! |
| 03:56.32 | Josh_Borke | WTF?! |
| 03:58.06 | Lukian | uh what.. |
| 03:58.07 | Lukian | Rocket Chicken (Summon Rocket Chicken ) |
| 03:58.07 | Lukian | It's a chicken. And huh, a robot. Nothing really interesting the spells here, the only hint is a "Suicide" spell really close to the ones related to the chicken, but nothing in the name could give a hint about the effect. |
| 03:58.08 | erb | i got too much shit going on in a raid to open my bags and click things |
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| 03:58.15 | Lukian | ^ lol.. that's a pet that's been in forever. |
| 03:58.17 | erb | gotta pay attention to my shot timer first and foremost |
| 03:58.22 | erb | that consumes just about all of my attention |
| 03:58.23 | erb | lol |
| 03:58.24 | Lukian | silly mmo-champion! |
| 03:58.48 | Ellipsis | I keep my food bag open while in group/raid |
| 03:58.50 | kenlyric | are you confusing robot chicken with rocket chicken? |
| 03:59.01 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: that's really good for you. |
| 03:59.06 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, stop it |
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| 04:01.35 | CIA-7 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 04:01.35 | CIA-7 | - Typo fix |
| 04:03.56 | erb | oh damn pt3bar really is basic |
| 04:04.00 | erb | lol no way to add shit to it |
| 04:04.08 | kenlyric | stop being dumb and keep your bags open! |
| 04:04.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wee, downed illhoof. |
| 04:04.15 | erb | i can't play like that |
| 04:04.16 | kenlyric | CLEARLY SUPERIOR |
| 04:04.27 | erb | fuck im stuck with autobar |
| 04:04.30 | erb | boo |
| 04:04.45 | erb | oh well im not going to code one so i'll take what i can get |
| 04:05.11 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, that is really uncalled for |
| 04:05.14 | Ellipsis | cut it out |
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| 04:07.08 | kenlyric | I'd call it fairly called for. I suppose when you get beyond you = everybody, it won't be. |
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| 04:07.37 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, we were comparing our solutions for the problem of using consumables in combat |
| 04:07.42 | Ellipsis | that has nothing to do with you |
| 04:07.44 | Paene | yay! |
| 04:07.51 | Amadeo | kenlyric likes to pick on people, but he's squishy if you poke him ;) |
| 04:07.53 | Paene | figured out Secure Frames stuff |
| 04:07.55 | Paene | :D |
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| 04:09.01 | Ellipsis | I don't deserve to be attacked just for offering solutions to someone who comes in here with a question |
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| 04:09.10 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 04:09.10 | CIA-7 | - Tradeskill: update koKR localization |
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| 04:09.48 | CIA-7 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 : |
| 04:09.48 | CIA-7 | - Fix Prospecting icon: INV_Misc_Gem_BloodGem_01 |
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| 04:12.13 | CIA-7 | Jude: |
| 04:12.13 | CIA-7 | - Renamed files. |
| 04:13.03 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: I'm sorry. I guess I was reading more into what you were saying than you actually said. |
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| 04:13.23 | kenlyric | Amadeo: hey, he called me dumb for liking ff4, I didn't pick on him! |
| 04:13.45 | CIA-7 | 03prbryant * r53981 10Jude/ (Jude.lua Jude.toc Jude.xml jude2.lua jude2.toc jude2.xml): |
| 04:13.45 | CIA-7 | Jude: |
| 04:13.45 | CIA-7 | - Updated to match naming conventions |
| 04:13.49 | Amadeo | Yes you did! |
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| 04:14.02 | Amadeo | You picked on me, too! |
| 04:14.06 | Amadeo | But it's ok, I can take it ;) |
| 04:14.17 | kadrahil | hm |
| 04:14.35 | kadrahil | for some reason i can't get an option to set the side of the target unit frame the auras show up on in pitbull |
| 04:14.44 | kadrahil | i had it earlier :( |
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| 04:15.15 | kenlyric | Amadeo: that's picking on the Sega, you just get caught up in the backwash! |
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| 04:15.35 | Amadeo | eww |
| 04:15.42 | kenlyric | 16 year old console wars are AWESoME, don't you know? |
| 04:15.43 | Amadeo | I'm not drinking it now |
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| 04:15.53 | Amadeo | Nintendo stopped supporting the NES :( |
| 04:16.26 | kenlyric | emulated, they all play on the same controller :) |
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| 04:16.54 | kenlyric | Amadeo: 21 years is a pretty decent support time. |
| 04:17.34 | kenlyric | I'm more concerned about my gameboy. |
| 04:18.04 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: thank you |
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| 04:18.43 | kenlyric | what happens if we have a nuclear holocause and my buttons melt? |
| 04:18.53 | kenlyric | holocaust |
| 04:19.28 | Ellipsis | uh...the cockroaches will be very bored |
| 04:19.51 | kenlyric | I will have hidden under a pile of gameboys. |
| 04:20.04 | kenlyric | http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhoran/45214051/ |
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| 04:22.41 | Amadeo | hah, still works |
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| 04:23.38 | Amadeo | gotta run! |
| 04:24.12 | kenlyric | mine still works but has two black bars down each side. |
| 04:24.21 | kenlyric | really crappy in a platformer, but no problem in tetris. |
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| 04:26.44 | CIA-7 | Wardrobe2 |
| 04:26.44 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:40.42 | CIA-7 | 03apal * r53983 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 04:40.42 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 04:40.42 | CIA-7 | -Tradeskill: bugfix koKR localization |
| 04:41.35 | aestil | we killed the first hyjal boss on our first try |
| 04:41.45 | aestil | we are 4 healers short of the 'recomended' amount for the second boss though |
| 04:41.49 | aestil | might be too tough |
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| 04:45.05 | Jaxon | I'm trying to troubleshoot a bug for a friend and the mere presence of BugSack and BugGrabber make it go away and the addon work. |
| 04:46.08 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53984 10LittleWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:46.08 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 04:46.08 | CIA-7 | - koKR update |
| 04:46.08 | CIA-7 | - Coilfang/Kalithresh: add rage nextbar and some triggers |
| 04:47.39 | Ellipsis | Jaxon: what is the error message he gets without them? my money's on a missing lib that gets included with those |
| 04:48.11 | aestil | Ellipsis: /dance |
| 04:48.12 | Jaxon | Ellipsis, yup, thats exactly what it is. ClockFu still has Ace2 depends. |
| 04:49.35 | Ellipsis | aestil: /ponder |
| 04:51.30 | aestil | want to go to BT? |
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| 04:51.45 | aestil | we have like 23 people attuned for that now :) |
| 04:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | Jaxon: there's a MiniClockFu now that's a lot better if all you're looking for is just a clock on your fubar |
| 04:51.54 | aestil | next wee lots better. |
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| 04:53.38 | Ellipsis | aestil: BT huh... |
| 04:53.43 | Ellipsis | yeah sure why not |
| 04:53.48 | aestil | l2transfer to PvP server |
| 04:53.49 | aestil | :D |
| 04:53.54 | Ellipsis | I know, I'm so nub |
| 04:54.01 | Ellipsis | I should just hax0r Blizz and make them let me |
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| 04:55.01 | aestil | you live close to them. sex them up |
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| 04:56.11 | Diao | wow lol |
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| 04:56.18 | Diao | i made a 2s team for fun with a friend who plays ret pally |
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| 04:56.21 | Diao | we're 4-0 right now |
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| 04:57.06 | Lukian | what class are you Diao ? |
| 04:57.16 | Diao | MS warrior |
| 04:57.41 | Diao | we were totally expecting to lose every game |
| 04:58.29 | Moozh | but your burst damage is raping face? |
| 04:58.32 | Diao | yeah |
| 04:58.34 | Diao | lol |
| 04:58.41 | Diao | we're bursting down people before they can react |
| 04:58.56 | Diao | but we've been fighting 2 dps teams too |
| 04:58.59 | Diao | haven't fought a dps/healer yet |
| 04:59.12 | Moozh | *game start* *ms crusader strike seal of command dead* |
| 04:59.26 | Diao | basically lol |
| 05:00.39 | Arrowmaster | fucking mc'd tree druid just healed kael from like 51% to >60% |
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| 05:00.57 | Moozh | kek |
| 05:01.11 | Diao | lol |
| 05:02.44 | Lukian | rofl Arrowmaster |
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| 05:06.59 | aestil | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 05:07.05 | aestil | l2fear druids? |
| 05:08.15 | Arrowmaster | well we already had a bunch of deaths |
| 05:08.23 | Arrowmaster | we havent seen phase 5 yet |
| 05:09.46 | aestil | you have 3 mages? |
| 05:09.58 | aestil | for us, we have everything dead about 20 seconds into P4 |
| 05:10.06 | RaydenUnic | which boss? |
| 05:10.09 | aestil | so at that point its just dps KT |
| 05:10.17 | aestil | Arrowmaster: we only break healer sheep |
| 05:10.21 | Arrowmaster | 2 mages 4 locks |
| 05:10.23 | aestil | we leave dps CC"d basically |
| 05:10.29 | aestil | have both mages sheep instantly. |
| 05:10.40 | RaydenUnic | what boss? |
| 05:10.51 | aestil | KT |
| 05:11.01 | Arrowmaster | i was tanking capernian when p4 started and nothing else was up i think |
| 05:11.15 | aestil | cap should almost be dead at that point? |
| 05:11.18 | aestil | send hunters back |
| 05:11.22 | aestil | you have hunters lootinig dagger? |
| 05:11.33 | aestil | hunter + dagger + wing clip = good |
| 05:11.34 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 05:11.38 | aestil | yes |
| 05:11.39 | Arrowmaster | we only have 2 hunters |
| 05:11.47 | aestil | you want hunters to loot dagger so they can break MC's |
| 05:12.01 | Arrowmaster | they might be not sure |
| 05:12.07 | aestil | make that happen |
| 05:12.14 | Arrowmaster | their a little busy tanking the bow and giving out misdirects |
| 05:12.28 | aestil | a prot warrior, and 2 mages sheeping, and hunters breaking MC's with the warrior should be good enough. |
| 05:12.33 | aestil | Arrowmaster: thats fail |
| 05:12.36 | aestil | Arrowmaster: bull |
| 05:12.40 | aestil | Arrowmaster: shit |
| 05:12.51 | aestil | Arrowmaster: everyone is busy with everything |
| 05:12.55 | Arrowmaster | they might be getting the dagger i dont know |
| 05:13.00 | aestil | loot the dagger, equip it and break MC's |
| 05:13.39 | Arrowmaster | pulling again |
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| 05:14.29 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53985 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua: |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-7 | -- Fixed an issue where skinning stops for buttons after disabled buttons after a reload. |
| 05:16.13 | Obelixprime | so.. |
| 05:16.24 | Obelixprime | illidan p2 |
| 05:16.27 | Obelixprime | comments? |
| 05:16.36 | Obelixprime | we got one flame to 30% the other to like 50% or so |
| 05:18.16 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53986 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 05:18.16 | CIA-7 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 : |
| 05:18.17 | CIA-7 | - koKR Updated |
| 05:18.24 | xyu | wooot kael down |
| 05:18.31 | xyu | first time |
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| 05:21.02 | vithos | fuck, ThreatLib fails on p3 RoS |
| 05:25.52 | Obelixprime | grats |
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| 05:38.27 | durcyn | Obelixprime: uh, don't stand in the fire. then you win. |
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| 05:42.36 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 05:42.40 | Obelixprime | there's a lot of fire :P |
| 05:47.43 | RaydenUnic | how long does it take to finish KZ? |
| 05:48.11 | Moozh | kz? |
| 05:48.20 | RaydenUnic | yes kz |
| 05:48.26 | Moozh | kz is...? |
| 05:48.50 | RaydenUnic | karazhan |
| 05:49.16 | durcyn | Obelixprime: no, really. once you suvive phase two, it's easy. if you have 3-4 group healers, you can clump up in four sections on the grate. |
| 05:49.30 | Orionshock | RaydenUnic: bout 2-3 months |
| 05:49.33 | durcyn | Obelixprime: after that it's just a matter of dodging the eye lasers and staying within 20 yards of the glaives |
| 05:49.36 | Orionshock | depending on makeup and desire |
| 05:49.36 | RaydenUnic | in number of hours |
| 05:49.49 | RaydenUnic | i know it widely varies from guild to guild |
| 05:49.53 | Orionshock | 2 4hrs sesssions for all bosses |
| 05:49.53 | RaydenUnic | but an estimate |
| 05:49.58 | Moozh | start to finish on farm status, maybe 7 hours |
| 05:50.09 | Moozh | 7 is quite fast |
| 05:50.18 | Orionshock | a well tuned group should be able to clear it in 5hrs |
| 05:50.26 | Orionshock | .. come on MC was being cleared in 2 |
| 05:50.30 | durcyn | huh, yo ucan do a full clear in three easily |
| 05:50.35 | Orionshock | .. come on MC was being cleared in 5hrs back in the day |
| 05:51.44 | Orionshock | RaydenUnic: the consensus seems to be 3hrs for a grate guild and 2/4hr sessions for not so grate guilds |
| 05:52.06 | Wobin | The guild that can clear it at 3hrs |
| 05:52.11 | Wobin | probably doesn't need anything =P |
| 05:52.17 | Wobin | that they can get from kara =) |
| 05:52.32 | Wobin | but it'd be good to gear up newbies fast |
| 05:52.36 | RaydenUnic | took us 3-4 hours to do attumen, moroes, and maiden last night |
| 05:52.40 | Orionshock | in the patch it'll be done for the badges .. and thats bout it |
| 05:52.45 | Moozh | we've got all the bosses down and can kill them, we just mess up a few times, and more often than not its because 4 of our people, who run on the same internet connection (they're in the same house) discon mid-fight due to shitty internet service |
| 05:52.55 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53987 10/branches/LittleWigs/ (. 7destiny/): LittleWigs : |
| 05:53.34 | ulic | a LW branch huh? Have to see what he's up to. |
| 05:53.44 | Wobin | Orionshock: Nah, I suspect ZA will be done for the badges |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53988 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-7 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 : |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-7 | - Update koKR localization |
| 05:53.57 | Wobin | unless they're gearing up another person |
| 05:54.02 | Orionshock | Wob prolly both tbh |
| 05:54.10 | Orionshock | thats like 15badges all arround |
| 05:54.20 | Obelixprime | durcyn: Hmm... fire prot pots and cauldrons? |
| 05:54.34 | miica | i should collect badges to new gloves |
| 05:54.48 | Wobin | such shiny shiny badge stuff |
| 05:54.52 | Wobin | in 2.3 |
| 05:55.02 | miica | any idea how new personal rating works? |
| 05:55.06 | Wobin | I -really- am considering the 50 badge dagger as an offhand |
| 05:55.17 | Wobin | but then again... such shiny shiny new badge gear next patch |
| 05:55.32 | miica | i got 3.1k arena points but s2 or s3 :P |
| 05:55.56 | Diao | we run with 9 geared people and 1 undergeared person to get them gear |
| 05:56.05 | Diao | and it takes us like ~3 hrs full cclear |
| 05:56.09 | Diao | clear* |
| 05:56.15 | Diao | by geared i mean kara geared :P |
| 05:56.24 | Wobin | yeah, but would you do that for badges alone? |
| 05:56.32 | Wobin | Or would you do ZA for gear + badges |
| 05:56.38 | Wobin | most of the people I know are fairly burnt out on KZ |
| 05:56.59 | Wobin | Fisker-: please take your disgusting fantasies elsewhere |
| 05:57.03 | Diao | uh |
| 05:57.07 | Diao | we'd do both |
| 05:57.11 | Wobin | painful =P |
| 05:57.15 | Diao | cause most of our people still need a little bit of stuff from kara |
| 05:57.21 | Wobin | I guess I'm in a guild where we only have time for one =) |
| 05:57.26 | Orionshock | anyone know if skinning skill lvl affects drop rate for anything? |
| 05:57.36 | Moozh | negative |
| 05:57.43 | Orionshock | like if i have the dagger and the glove enchant i get a better chance at something? |
| 05:57.53 | Wobin | Fisker-: I'll have to ask you shut the fuck up. Your comments are starting to disturb me at times, and I don't need that. |
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| 05:58.25 | Wobin | Orionshock: I've never heard of that affecting anything |
| 05:58.31 | Diao | afaik no or4n_ |
| 05:58.35 | Diao | er |
| 05:58.35 | Diao | Orionshock |
| 05:58.38 | GamingisLife | this is world of warcraft? |
| 05:58.57 | Lukian | no, this is IRC |
| 05:59.01 | Diao | it's so you can skin higher level mobs |
| 05:59.05 | Wobin | World of Warcraft has more colours |
| 05:59.08 | Wobin | and is somewhat prettier |
| 05:59.12 | GamingisLife | nude patch? |
| 05:59.19 | Wobin | possibly not that pretty |
| 05:59.26 | Wobin | cause dear god, gnomes =( |
| 05:59.47 | Lukian | The succubus nude patch was/is nice |
| 06:00.13 | Thrae | Succubus nude patch -- it's only removing two bits, what's the harm in that! |
| 06:00.30 | Wobin | Thrae: You could say the same for gelding... |
| 06:04.01 | Neebler | !points 1978 |
| 06:04.04 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 06:04.45 | Lukian | I wonder if there's a Princess nude patch |
| 06:04.57 | Wobin | Theredras? |
| 06:05.02 | Lukian | yeah |
| 06:05.02 | Wobin | dear god, man =( |
| 06:05.07 | Lukian | haha |
| 06:05.16 | Neebler | hmm whats the thraebot command to check arena points? |
| 06:05.25 | Lukian | of course the patch makes her look hot before looking nude |
| 06:05.29 | GamingisLife | Why isnt the #$% blizzard doing anything to stop private servers |
| 06:05.33 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | try !rating |
| 06:05.36 | Lukian | Neebler, try !rating (and PM the bot) |
| 06:05.36 | Neebler | !rating 1978 |
| 06:05.36 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | 1978 rating gives 1026(5s), 902(3s) and 779(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 06:05.36 | ulic | !ap 1500 |
| 06:05.36 | ThraeBot | ulic: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 261, 3v3: 302, 5v5: 344 |
| 06:05.39 | GamingisLife | theres thousands of them |
| 06:05.46 | Thrae | !help ap |
| 06:05.50 | ThraeBot | !ap <rating> -- Convert Arena rating to points, for all sizes. (Updated as of 2.1.3) |
| 06:05.50 | Wobin | GamingisLife: What can they do? |
| 06:05.56 | Thrae | Whoops, it's more up to date then 2.1.3 |
| 06:06.01 | Neebler | !rati |
| 06:06.14 | GamingisLife | Wobin they didnt even shut down an american hosting website of private server for more than a year |
| 06:06.18 | Wobin | Although, in general, they're not hurting for subscriptions |
| 06:06.22 | GamingisLife | blizzard are lazy @#%s |
| 06:06.39 | Lukian | GamingisLife, have you actually played on a private server? |
| 06:06.43 | Thrae | !help ap |
| 06:06.43 | ThraeBot | !ap <rating> -- Convert Arena rating to points, for all sizes. (Updated as of 2.3.x) |
| 06:06.47 | Lukian | If you have, you'll find how crap they are. |
| 06:06.54 | Wobin | and with the updates, private servers will never actually be as good as the live servers |
| 06:07.40 | Wobin | Since it doesn't directly affect the actual subscribers, Blizzard don't really care -that- much |
| 06:07.58 | Wobin | if private servers cut off legal subscribers or something, they'd be on it like a ton of bricks |
| 06:08.12 | GamingisLife | You make sense. |
| 06:08.17 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2: You need to take the floor of > 1500 ratings |
| 06:08.42 | GamingisLife | isnt wow free to download? then i can pay to play |
| 06:08.46 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | i assumed it is floor() |
| 06:08.46 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | yousure it isn't? |
| 06:08.59 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2: You're off by one |
| 06:09.03 | Thrae | !ap 1928 |
| 06:09.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1928 is, 2v2: 726, 3v3: 840, 5v5: 955 |
| 06:09.07 | GamingisLife | I have a CD of free trial for 14 days |
| 06:09.07 | Adys | GamingisLife: before trolling random channels here's an advice, learn something about what kind of stuff you're talking about, takes more than "changing IPs" for a priv serv to exist |
| 06:09.11 | Thrae | !rating 1928 |
| 06:09.11 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | 1928 rating gives 955(5s), 841(3s) and 726(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 06:09.18 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | you referring to rating->points conversion? |
| 06:09.34 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | i used round() |
| 06:09.41 | Thrae | !rating 1978 |
| 06:09.41 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | 1978 rating gives 1026(5s), 902(3s) and 779(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 06:09.50 | Thrae | !ap 1978 |
| 06:09.50 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena points from a rating of 1978 is, 2v2: 779, 3v3: 902, 5v5: 1025 |
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| 06:10.01 | Thrae | There, that was the off by one I noticed |
| 06:10.04 | jellywerker | I have an issue, anyone know how to make fubar 3 transparent? |
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| 06:10.12 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | yeah, i used round(), you used floor() |
| 06:10.40 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | changed |
| 06:10.44 | Wobin | Adys: that was a bit harsh =P |
| 06:10.48 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2: floor() is what the equation calls for, that's what the symbols stand for |
| 06:10.52 | jellywerker | also, this may not be the place, but anyone know if elkbuffbars can do just the icons with times under them, like the blizzard icons? |
| 06:10.52 | Adys | he was telling bs in #wowhead lol |
| 06:10.57 | Xinhuan | yah i changed it |
| 06:10.57 | Wobin | ah =) |
| 06:11.07 | Wobin | he hadn't gotten quite so far here |
| 06:11.15 | Adys | [07:03:15] <GamingisLife> all you have to do is change ip nothing else. |
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| 06:11.24 | Thrae | !points 500 |
| 06:11.24 | Xinhuan | 500 arena points require 1626(5s), 1674(3s) and 1734(2s) team rating. |
| 06:11.28 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r53989 10Cryolysis 2/ (68 files in 3 dirs): Cryolysis 2: initial import |
| 06:11.37 | Xinhuan | also, i've changed it slightly so that my code will respond to !ap and !ar if Thraebot isn't in the channel :) |
| 06:11.50 | hyperChipmunk | yeah but i have like 10 words |
| 06:11.55 | Thrae | !points 200 |
| 06:11.55 | Xinhuan | 200 arena points require 846(5s), 970(3s) and 1133(2s) team rating. |
| 06:11.55 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 06:12.51 | Thrae | Xinhuan: What's the equation you have for points --> rating? |
| 06:13.20 | Xinhuan | if ($1 >= 344) { |
| 06:13.20 | Xinhuan | return $calc( $log( $calc(((1511.26 / $1) - 1) / 1639.28) ) / -0.00412 ) |
| 06:13.24 | Xinhuan | else { |
| 06:13.28 | Xinhuan | return $calc( ($1 - 14) / 0.22 ) |
| 06:13.44 | Xinhuan | the calling function divides by 0.76 or 0.88 before passing it in |
| 06:13.52 | Xinhuan | for 2s and 3s |
| 06:13.55 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Does it floor or round? |
| 06:14.09 | Xinhuan | i ceil() the whole thing at the end of it |
| 06:14.13 | jellywerker | so no one can make fubar 3 transparent? I personally blame it on the rock interface, it may be universal, but it is also often a pain |
| 06:14.17 | Xinhuan | but no rounding off before that |
| 06:16.36 | Xinhuan | jellywerker - its under the main "Fubar" tree |
| 06:16.41 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r53990 10Cryolysis 2/UI/ (39 files): Cryolysis 2: Removed unused textures |
| 06:16.54 | Xinhuan | meaning, click on the root "Fubar" tree itself |
| 06:17.40 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Yeah, I was missing a ceil for points < 344. That's it. |
| 06:18.32 | Xinhuan | wow, the 2s queues right now are like 11 min long |
| 06:18.38 | Xinhuan | everyone tries to squeeze in games |
| 06:18.43 | Xinhuan | right before a week reset |
| 06:22.27 | CIA-7 | 037destiny 077destiny * r53991 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs/ (39 files in 6 dirs): |
| 06:22.27 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 06:22.27 | CIA-7 | - add Splinter,Thorngrin,Blackheart Module |
| 06:23.00 | Lukian | vhaarr, Droolio , ping! |
| 06:25.18 | jellywerker | Xinhuan: much thanks, I wouldn't have noticed that myself |
| 06:26.20 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r53992 10Cryolysis 2/: |
| 06:26.20 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis 2: |
| 06:26.20 | CIA-7 | -Setup external's properties |
| 06:27.54 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r53993 10/trunk/ (Cryolysis 2/ Cryolysis2/): Renamed remotely |
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| 06:33.55 | aestil | killed the second boss in hyjal with 4 healers and an enhance shaman that respec'd |
| 06:34.19 | Xinhuan | 4? heh |
| 06:34.43 | aestil | the enahnced shaman respec'd to resto for the night |
| 06:34.46 | aestil | but yeah |
| 06:34.49 | aestil | it was crazy. |
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| 06:36.36 | art3mis | so whos awake |
| 06:36.54 | art3mis | i need an addon made ;) |
| 06:37.04 | RaydenUnic | how long does bottom scanner take? |
| 06:37.11 | art3mis | it runs indefinite |
| 06:37.23 | RaydenUnic | what does it do exactly? |
| 06:37.23 | RaydenUnic | how do i use it? |
| 06:37.27 | art3mis | basically it scans the last page of the ah and lets ya know if things get posted |
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| 06:38.02 | RaydenUnic | oh |
| 06:38.23 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/themeswapper.txt <-- i need that made for me, the bounty is 1 60day gamecard. |
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| 06:39.08 | art3mis | the part below the OR is the simplest |
| 06:39.12 | art3mis | and prefered way |
| 06:41.53 | Xinhuan | i like bottomscanner (i don't use it) |
| 06:42.02 | Xinhuan | some people like to use it to scan for items that are priced below vendor price |
| 06:42.06 | Xinhuan | and i profit |
| 06:42.21 | Xinhuan | because the addon has some gems at 1g when it vendors at 25s ;p |
| 06:42.27 | art3mis | how do you profit from selling below vendor? |
| 06:42.32 | art3mis | oh hah |
| 06:42.38 | art3mis | like those books |
| 06:42.42 | RaydenUnic | so auctioneer scans the AH every time i view it or what? |
| 06:42.47 | art3mis | all listed as 10g |
| 06:42.51 | RaydenUnic | i'm not sure what i should be doing with auctioneer |
| 06:42.55 | art3mis | nope only if you click scan |
| 06:43.00 | art3mis | xin make me my addon ;P |
| 06:43.08 | art3mis | you know you wanna ;P |
| 06:43.57 | art3mis | i wish there was a way to view addons without having to login to wow |
| 06:44.14 | xerawx | there's a fubar plugin |
| 06:44.20 | xerawx | the name eludes me... |
| 06:44.33 | art3mis | sorry i emant graphically view without loading wow ;P |
| 06:44.45 | art3mis | since 99.99999991% of all ace addons dont ahve pics ;P |
| 06:45.09 | Xinhuan | "graphically view"? |
| 06:45.12 | Xinhuan | windows explorer! |
| 06:46.35 | kadrahil | so like |
| 06:46.40 | kadrahil | if you accidentally bind escape to a key |
| 06:46.41 | art3mis | yeah like lets say i go hud searching and wanna know what the huds look like but im at work and cant load wow ;P |
| 06:46.45 | kadrahil | how do you get back to the game menu? :X |
| 06:47.00 | kadrahil | bind it to an action button rather |
| 06:47.02 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 06:47.08 | kadrahil | hah |
| 06:47.10 | Xinhuan | not without a /script command |
| 06:47.16 | kadrahil | that's what i was wondering |
| 06:47.30 | kadrahil | is there such a command? |
| 06:47.48 | art3mis | click the computer on yer minimenu ;P |
| 06:48.01 | kadrahil | disabled that with bartender |
| 06:48.03 | kadrahil | OH HI |
| 06:48.10 | kadrahil | genius |
| 06:48.13 | art3mis | so re-enable it ;P |
| 06:48.16 | art3mis | duh |
| 06:48.18 | Xinhuan | /run MainMenuMicroButton:Click() |
| 06:48.20 | Xinhuan | try that |
| 06:48.23 | RaydenUnic | where is the auctioneer scan button? |
| 06:48.34 | art3mis | click the main browse tab |
| 06:48.38 | art3mis | its on the bottom |
| 06:48.43 | Xinhuan | its the same thing as what art3mis said |
| 06:48.53 | Xinhuan | except /run MainMenuMicroButton:Click() clicks that button programmatically |
| 06:48.57 | Xinhuan | rather than physically |
| 06:49.15 | RaydenUnic | 13 minutes |
| 06:49.27 | RaydenUnic | how do i pull up the menu for auctioneer? |
| 06:49.35 | RaydenUnic | i found the command line |
| 06:49.38 | Xinhuan | there isn't one, its all slash commands? |
| 06:50.10 | RaydenUnic | then where is the scan button? |
| 06:50.17 | RaydenUnic | i dont see it on the normal AH window |
| 06:50.41 | CIA-7 | 03dfscott * r53994 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (7 files): |
| 06:50.41 | CIA-7 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 06:50.41 | CIA-7 | - Release candidate |
| 06:50.41 | CIA-7 | - Added Act 21 - Nagrand (level 66) |
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| 06:52.12 | RaydenUnic | guess i'll just use cmd line |
| 06:52.17 | RaydenUnic | way too much info for cmd line though |
| 06:52.22 | art3mis | ray |
| 06:52.32 | art3mis | click the browse tab on the ah window |
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| 06:52.47 | art3mis | look right above the tabs and you'll see a little button that says "sacn" |
| 06:52.51 | art3mis | scan |
| 06:53.49 | Xinhuan | i thought the scan, etc auctioneer buttons are on the top left corner of the AH window |
| 06:53.53 | RaydenUnic | does it disappear when you are scanning? |
| 06:54.04 | RaydenUnic | i see those 3 |
| 06:54.07 | RaydenUnic | clear, refresh, sort |
| 06:54.28 | Xinhuan | there should be a scan button near the bottom too |
| 06:54.31 | duckdodgers | anyone what mod gives me the little "addon prefrences" icon on my mini map? |
| 06:54.38 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 06:54.47 | art3mis | the ui picture for arkhud2 is a yugo ;P |
| 06:54.49 | duckdodgers | i'd hate to disable each one 1 at a time |
| 06:54.50 | Xinhuan | duckdodgers: Fubar, Cartographer, Pitbull, Cowtip - any of these |
| 06:55.04 | duckdodgers | k thx |
| 06:56.07 | Xinhuan | those addons are Rock addons |
| 06:56.33 | Xinhuan | you can think of a "Rock addon" as something similar to a "Ace2 addon", but not quite |
| 06:56.45 | art3mis | heh |
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| 06:58.17 | duckdodgers | which file/folder in cartographer has that item? |
| 06:58.21 | RaydenUnic | i have to stay at the AH while auctioneer is scanning right? |
| 06:58.28 | duckdodgers | i'd like to just download that feater |
| 06:58.33 | duckdodgers | feature |
| 06:58.42 | RaydenUnic | huh? |
| 06:58.52 | Xinhuan | you would need to download "LibRock-1.0" and "LibRockConfig-1.0" |
| 06:59.19 | duckdodgers | well heres the thing |
| 06:59.32 | duckdodgers | i made like 5 aceaddons mandatory for my guild for raids |
| 06:59.44 | duckdodgers | so they have alot of buttons on their maps |
| 06:59.55 | Xinhuan | tell them to hide the buttons |
| 06:59.59 | duckdodgers | it would be nice if they had the one button I had |
| 07:00.04 | RaydenUnic | they could use fubar and not use buttons on the map |
| 07:00.08 | duckdodgers | but they dont' want cart |
| 07:00.15 | RaydenUnic | something like DeuceCommander then? |
| 07:00.19 | Xinhuan | tell them to use fubar then |
| 07:00.23 | RaydenUnic | i don't know if it goes on the minimap |
| 07:00.43 | Xinhuan | most addons also have an option to remove the minimap button - in fact any such addon that doesn't have this option sucks |
| 07:01.44 | CIA-7 | 03broliant * r53995 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (FuBar_RecountFu.toc RecountFu.lua changelog.txt): FuBar_RecountFu: Updated tooltip options and added "time spent in last battle" functions submitted by T.I. |
| 07:02.13 | duckdodgers | true we could dsable them |
| 07:02.17 | RaydenUnic | what 5 addons? |
| 07:02.23 | duckdodgers | but it's is so much easier to have 1 button for easy access |
| 07:02.45 | Xinhuan | duckdodgers: consider this - why would you need to access the options every hour or everyday? |
| 07:02.52 | RaydenUnic | DeuceCommander will display menus for all your mods that support it |
| 07:03.13 | duckdodgers | ORA2, sRaidFrames, Omen, Bigwigs, Decursive |
| 07:03.17 | Xinhuan | most addons only need you to configure the addon ONCE to the user's liking and they can forget about the options |
| 07:03.27 | duckdodgers | raid leaders use Recount |
| 07:03.37 | duckdodgers | well it's all new to us. so we tweak it quite a bit |
| 07:03.42 | duckdodgers | here and there |
| 07:03.49 | RaydenUnic | just get fubar |
| 07:04.03 | Xinhuan | you see, that one minimap button feature thing is a "Rock" feature |
| 07:04.07 | CIA-7 | 037destiny 077destiny * r53996 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Splinter.lua: |
| 07:04.07 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 07:04.07 | CIA-7 | - Splinter fix |
| 07:04.07 | Xinhuan | and not a Ace2 feature |
| 07:04.18 | Xinhuan | so if you want that, you have to use at least 1 rock addon |
| 07:04.28 | art3mis | minibuttonbag! |
| 07:04.42 | Xinhuan | or download librock and librockconfig and install those 2 seperately as 2 addons |
| 07:04.46 | art3mis | keep all yer buttons but only show one of the map ;P |
| 07:05.41 | duckdodgers | it's weird that Ace wouldn't have the handy little button |
| 07:05.46 | duckdodgers | i assumed it was part of Ace |
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| 07:07.08 | duckdodgers | These acemods really kick ass |
| 07:07.21 | duckdodgers | i like it alot better then CTRA, DeadlyBM, KTM combo |
| 07:07.26 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r53997 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 07:07.26 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 07:07.26 | CIA-7 | Kaelthas: Update zhTW translation. |
| 07:07.31 | Orionshock | ya well don't let that go to your head duckdodgers |
| 07:07.38 | duckdodgers | what go to my head? |
| 07:07.54 | Orionshock | ace is not magic pixy dust that makes addons better or awsome |
| 07:08.10 | duckdodgers | yes it does |
| 07:10.25 | Xinhuan | i'm going to say that most ace2 addons are better only because they are rewrites of past addons to have better features and optimization of code |
| 07:10.29 | Xinhuan | ace2 doesn't really have anything to do with it |
| 07:11.55 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r53998 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.toc: |
| 07:11.55 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 07:11.55 | CIA-7 | -Updated .toc so users know this is a beta |
| 07:12.32 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r53999 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Kalithresh.lua: |
| 07:12.33 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 07:12.33 | CIA-7 | Kalithresh: Update zhTW translation. |
| 07:12.47 | Xelopheris | It's not ace2 itself that does the optimizing, it's the philosphy behind it, Xinhuan. |
| 07:12.51 | Xelopheris | in short |
| 07:15.08 | Xinhuan | its not the philosophy. its the programmer |
| 07:15.40 | Xinhuan | i could argue that ace2 slows down code from all the argchecks that is done |
| 07:16.42 | CIA-7 | 03scorpio0920 * r54000 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: |
| 07:16.42 | CIA-7 | LittleWigs: |
| 07:16.42 | CIA-7 | Omor: Update zhTW translation. |
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| 07:18.02 | art3mis | hrm where's benumbed |
| 07:18.08 | art3mis | dahud ius pretty nice |
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| 07:23.40 | Adys | anyone who messed alot with ScheduleEvent got a few mins? |
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| 07:24.05 | Xinhuan | just ask? |
| 07:24.58 | Adys | Im recoding an addon and I want to make a ScheduleEvent a regular repeated event without delay |
| 07:25.27 | Xinhuan | "withotu delay" means... ? |
| 07:26.00 | Adys | ScheduleEvent is used to put a delay beetween every time that event will run, at least in the addon Im recoding |
| 07:26.36 | Orionshock | Adys: try OnEvent? |
| 07:26.41 | Orionshock | err |
| 07:26.41 | Xinhuan | so ..? |
| 07:26.45 | Orionshock | OnUpdate |
| 07:26.50 | Xinhuan | that doesn't quite explain what you mean by "without delay" |
| 07:26.54 | pastamancer | wait for it, we're not getting the entire story yet |
| 07:27.38 | pastamancer | more importantly, what is this "regular repeated event" doing? |
| 07:27.55 | pastamancer | or rather, what *should* it be doing? |
| 07:28.08 | Adys | It parses saved data |
| 07:28.17 | Adys | Addon:ScheduleEvent('ParseData', AddOn.ListData, 3, Addon) |
| 07:28.27 | pastamancer | quit being vague |
| 07:28.39 | Adys | I cant be any more accurate, sorry :) |
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| 07:29.03 | pastamancer | hi, I have this thing that does stuff every now and then, how do I make it do things every now and then.... that's what I'm hearing |
| 07:29.11 | Xinhuan | so... you still haven't explained what "without delay" means |
| 07:29.57 | Orionshock | i feel a pastey comming on |
| 07:30.17 | Adys | Basically, at the moment it goes onto every array one by one and saves data for every key, with a 10 sec delay beetween each key |
| 07:30.44 | Adys | I want to make it so if the data is not saved or if its empty, it jumps onto the next array, ignoring the last one, without any delay |
| 07:31.03 | Xinhuan | otherwise, keep the delay? |
| 07:31.09 | pastamancer | yeah, you're going to need to pastey, because that's still hella vague |
| 07:31.17 | Nargiddley | just do it, dont bother with an event |
| 07:31.43 | Gngsk | he's updating someone else's code, I'm sure there was a reason for the event |
| 07:31.59 | Adys | yeah it was to avoid spam on the chatwindow |
| 07:32.05 | Xinhuan | well he could use a frame's OnUpdate - onupdate functions are called once every frame |
| 07:33.18 | Adys | right, one sec |
| 07:34.01 | Xinhuan | also, ace2's "ScheduleEvent" is just a very fancy OnUpdate that runs every frame, checks the current time, and see if "X seconds has passed". if it has, call the user's function he scheduled for |
| 07:34.19 | Xinhuan | if it hasn't, do nothing. |
| 07:34.29 | Adys | right |
| 07:34.34 | Nargiddley | If you want to do something with 'no delay' you just do it, he's got something happening every 10 sec and is asking how to skip to the next one straight away |
| 07:34.38 | Adys | thats what I needed to know |
| 07:34.54 | pastamancer | and that's why we need to see the code |
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| 07:35.07 | art3mis | why is aguf throwing errors to waterfall |
| 07:35.27 | Adys | sorry for being vague but I promised the author of the original addon not to say anything :) |
| 07:36.45 | pastamancer | do you have a function that performs one step of your process? |
| 07:36.54 | Adys | yes |
| 07:37.10 | Xinhuan | what you need, is to write your own fancy OnUpdate function |
| 07:37.14 | pastamancer | can you make it return true/false based on whether it did anything? |
| 07:37.28 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:38.05 | Adys | Xinhuan: Might be a bit of a weird question, but is there anything "faster" than OnUpdate? |
| 07:38.10 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:38.16 | Xinhuan | OnUpdate is called once per frame |
| 07:38.27 | Xinhuan | you can't go any faster than that frequency of updates |
| 07:38.31 | pastamancer | so it sounds like you want function DoSomething () while not ReallyDoSomething() do end end |
| 07:38.36 | Xinhuan | unless you buy a faster PC or a faster GPU. |
| 07:38.41 | duckdodgers | is there an ace based mod that does what Guild Event Manager? |
| 07:38.45 | Xinhuan | duckdodgers: no |
| 07:38.56 | Adys | right, that'll do for now |
| 07:39.01 | Adys | thanks |
| 07:39.14 | Xinhuan | if you want to "go faster", you're going to have to do more processing per "update" |
| 07:39.18 | Xinhuan | rather than have "faster updates" |
| 07:39.28 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
| 07:39.44 | Adys | hmm |
| 07:39.50 | Adys | im not sure, but gives me an idea |
| 07:39.54 | Adys | Ill try it out |
| 07:40.12 | Xinhuan | if you have 60 fps, onupdate is called 60 times per second |
| 07:40.32 | Xinhuan | keep in mind processing stuff on OnUpdates uses cpu time, so heavy processing will affect FPS |
| 07:40.35 | Xinhuan | and lower it |
| 07:40.47 | Adys | yeah thats ok |
| 07:40.49 | Xinhuan | since its called at every frame |
| 07:41.04 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: it sounds like he wants the periodically-called function to do *something* every time rather than re-scheduling the next update if nothing was done |
| 07:41.07 | Ellipsis | as opposed to processing stuff at any other time, which doesn't use the CPU |
| 07:41.31 | Xinhuan | yeah if that is the case pastamancer, he has to write his own OnUpdate function that does exactly that |
| 07:41.48 | Xinhuan | wait 10 secs if something is true, else run some code if it isn't |
| 07:42.30 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: it sounds like he's iterating a table, so he should be able to move on to the next key if he can't process the current key |
| 07:42.59 | Xinhuan | he didn't say what kind of table it is - if its a numeric table, a local filescope variable can save the "state" of the last loop |
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| 07:43.35 | Xinhuan | or if its a hashed table, next(table, lastkey) will give the next key |
| 07:44.00 | Cartas | ~seen Xuerian |
| 07:44.33 | purl | xuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-135-173.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9h 20m 37s ago, saying: 'zenzelezz: Thanks.'. |
| 07:44.34 | pastamancer | based on the "ParseData" Addon.listdata, it sounds like he's already keeping state |
| 07:44.55 | pastamancer | which is why I proposed making the ParseData function return a status and keep calling it until it has done something, without having to re-schedule the timer |
| 07:46.25 | aestil | Ellipsis: downed 2 hyjal bosses our first time in. |
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| 07:47.51 | Lukian | can ClosetGnome auto-equip Argent Dawn? |
| 07:48.12 | Xinhuan | probably yes, with the appropriate closetgnome plugin |
| 07:48.22 | Xinhuan | which you have to download separately |
| 07:48.29 | vhaarr | closetgnome_zone could do it for example |
| 07:48.45 | Lukian | cheers vhaarr |
| 07:48.52 | Lukian | ah you are here now |
| 07:50.18 | Lukian | hmm I had something to comment on one of your other addons |
| 07:50.25 | Lukian | But I forget which one Xd |
| 07:50.47 | Xinhuan | you asked for droolio as well |
| 07:50.55 | Xinhuan | so that's a jiggle of your memory |
| 07:52.13 | Lukian | yeah they were seperate requests, but just doing it together |
| 07:52.17 | Lukian | what other addons are yours? |
| 07:52.19 | Lukian | that should remind me |
| 07:52.32 | Xinhuan | bigwigs |
| 07:52.41 | Lukian | no, vhaarr :p |
| 07:53.40 | Cartas | Hm, is agUF no longer being updated? |
| 07:53.44 | Ellipsis | aestil: thought you said you didn't have the healing for the second one? |
| 07:53.51 | Gngsk | Cartas, what makes you think that? |
| 07:53.58 | aestil | strat recomends 9 |
| 07:54.02 | Cartas | A few bugs I have with it. |
| 07:54.11 | aestil | we had 4 and an enhance shaman who respec'd resto for the night |
| 07:54.13 | aestil | we won. |
| 07:54.18 | Cartas | Just wondering if it's because it's not being updated or somethign. |
| 07:54.19 | Cartas | something*. |
| 07:54.29 | aestil | part of it was luck that both of our druids had Brez up for the fight |
| 07:54.43 | aestil | and when the shit hit the fan, we had everyone kiting stuff while we just took down the last 8% |
| 07:54.49 | vhaarr | Lukian: yeah, bigwigs, auratochat, closetgnome, errormonster, bugsack, banzaialert, violation, and some other small things |
| 07:54.59 | Ellipsis | eh, that's how it usually ends up going |
| 07:55.20 | Lukian | might be one of the small things |
| 07:55.59 | Diao | what fight is this? |
| 07:56.25 | Cartas | Everyone is kiting... perhaps it's Razorgore? |
| 07:56.49 | Diao | razorgore with 9 healers in bc? |
| 07:56.51 | vhaarr | ragnaros phase 2 |
| 07:56.55 | Diao | lol |
| 07:56.59 | Cartas | lol |
| 07:58.27 | Lukian | vhaarr, so what are the smaller ones? |
| 07:58.30 | aestil | the second boss in hyjal? |
| 07:58.33 | Diao | oh |
| 07:58.34 | aestil | i dunno the name. |
| 07:58.37 | aestil | didn't pay attention |
| 07:58.44 | aestil | both OT's died and the healer for them died |
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| 07:58.51 | aestil | so then hunters started kiting infernals |
| 07:58.56 | aestil | and then a druid started kiting them |
| 07:59.01 | aestil | and then we killed the dude |
| 07:59.02 | Diao | lol |
| 07:59.04 | aestil | and then we laughed. |
| 07:59.13 | aestil | it was better than the KT kill from the night before. |
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| 07:59.48 | aestil | rep comes kinda slow in there |
| 07:59.57 | aestil | only got 2k rep. |
| 08:00.10 | Gngsk | ring is too good for it to come fast |
| 08:00.12 | aestil | 1 shot first boss [lol] and then had 4 wipes to 2nd boss before kill. |
| 08:01.26 | aestil | does it proc off dot applications? |
| 08:01.43 | Cartas | Hm, guys! If you whisper 'uko w' to someone, does it work? |
| 08:01.50 | Cartas | Seems everyone on my server has a problem with it... |
| 08:02.43 | aestil | that ring is amazing at exalted |
| 08:02.50 | aestil | trash gives you rep forever? |
| 08:03.01 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 08:03.08 | Gngsk | I'm 1/2 way through revered |
| 08:03.11 | Gngsk | slooooow |
| 08:03.20 | Cartas | Could anyone test, please? |
| 08:03.20 | Gngsk | we have 1 guy who has the ring |
| 08:03.32 | Gngsk | human that didn't miss any kills until he got it |
| 08:04.48 | Diao | uko w? |
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| 08:05.11 | Diao | it's blocked |
| 08:05.12 | Diao | apparently |
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| 08:05.33 | Diao | reserved words eh |
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| 08:05.44 | LAG|Domo | Can anyone direct me to a good ingame Notepad addon? |
| 08:06.00 | art3mis | luapad |
| 08:06.04 | aestil | well, its likely that by the time we kill archimode [at least another month] we'll be stuck at something in BT |
| 08:06.10 | aestil | we are second on our sever now. |
| 08:06.20 | aestil | farthest guild just killed archimode this weekend. |
| 08:06.21 | Cartas | Why's that, Diao? |
| 08:06.23 | Cartas | Do you know? |
| 08:06.24 | aestil | same night we killed KT |
| 08:06.36 | aestil | 3rd is right behind us, but lacks people key'd for hyjal |
| 08:06.44 | aestil | after that its people working on Vashj. |
| 08:07.02 | Diao | no clue |
| 08:07.06 | Diao | must be reserved for something |
| 08:07.24 | aestil | hyjal's first 3 bosses have some impressive SP upgrades |
| 08:07.25 | Cartas | We have someone in the guild who's name ends with uko. |
| 08:07.31 | aestil | those leggings off the third boss are very 'wow' |
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| 08:09.57 | aestil | ok. lets duel someone. mid 30's character |
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| 08:19.38 | Lukian | US Jubei'Thos Sultansbirth |
| 08:19.41 | Lukian | @ aestil |
| 08:20.01 | Cartas | Hm, what's a good UnitFrame addon (Not agUF) that shows ToT's de/buffs? :o |
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| 08:30.28 | Silviu- | Pitbull ;) |
| 08:30.46 | Cartas | Are there any other options? |
| 08:31.05 | Silviu- | hmm Xperl don`t know |
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| 08:31.21 | Cartas | Hm... |
| 08:31.29 | Cartas | I wonder why there are few good Ace UnitFrames. |
| 08:32.46 | Arrowmaster | because unitframes are a lot of work? |
| 08:32.59 | Cartas | There are enough non-Ace ones around :P |
| 08:33.06 | Arrowmaster | and they all suck |
| 08:33.47 | Cartas | Hm, do you know of any good ones though? |
| 08:33.54 | Arrowmaster | theres actually a lot of ace unitframes |
| 08:34.19 | Tekkub | mmm.... epic flying FTFW |
| 08:34.28 | Cartas | Hm, WAU only shows agUF and Pitbull... |
| 08:34.30 | Arrowmaster | most of the unit/raid frames i can think of are either ace2 or rock |
| 08:34.30 | Tekkub | I feel so productive today |
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| 08:34.36 | Cartas | What others were you thinking of, Arrowmaster? |
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| 08:34.56 | Tekkub | I did 2hr of work, then got my Consortium rep up so I could by my ammo bag, and then got my epic finall |
| 08:34.58 | Arrowmaster | try looking for raidframes and not unitframes |
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| 08:35.48 | Cartas | Hm... not much look! |
| 08:36.01 | Cartas | agUF shall have to do! :D |
| 08:36.25 | Arrowmaster | and name a non ace/rock unitframe other than xperl |
| 08:36.40 | Cartas | Sage. |
| 08:37.22 | Arrowmaster | sage is by tuller so it should be perty good anyway |
| 08:37.35 | Cartas | It lacks ToT buffs & debuffs, unfortunately! |
| 08:37.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah i didnt think it was very customizable |
| 08:38.42 | Cartas | I wish oUF was updated... |
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| 08:41.06 | Ellipsis | there is an updated-ish one floating around |
| 08:41.26 | Cartas | Haste's site seems to be down at present, and he's AFK on IRC! :p |
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| 08:43.30 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:43.30 | CIA-7 | - Set up the Zul'Aman timed run rewards |
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| 08:46.37 | art3mis | tekk!!!! |
| 08:47.10 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/themeswapper.txt <-- go make me that ;P the bottom half i'll give you a nice pretty 60day TC for it ;P |
| 08:49.49 | CIA-7 | 03daviesh * r54003 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 08:49.49 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:49.49 | CIA-7 | - Made the Zul'Aman timed run rewards accessible |
| 08:50.06 | Orionshock | pos automation |
| 08:50.18 | Orionshock | ... i want to que for AV, don't give a dam bout the group |
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| 08:57.57 | Mech0z | Bah no announcement of S3 meaning at least another 3 weeks til it starts :( |
| 08:58.13 | dreamss | bleh |
| 08:58.22 | dreamss | i tought it was gonna work like that |
| 08:58.36 | dreamss | but then they said s3 was not gonna start with 2.3 |
| 08:59.05 | Mech0z | No they said it was not sure they started on the same time |
| 08:59.18 | Mech0z | just that s3 would get at least 2 weeks notice |
| 08:59.33 | Mech0z | they havent given the garuntee about 2.3 in that way |
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| 09:00.26 | Orionshock | fk s3, they should give a 2week notice of when they are going to remove the arena systems from the game... it was such a horribly and fked up idea to do in the first place.. it toaly fubar'ed the rest of the game, or atleast help'ed it go fubar |
| 09:01.05 | Mech0z | Well I dont have time to raid, so no they should not remove it, pvp is all I do ingame |
| 09:01.18 | Mech0z | just because you dont like it dont mean it should be removed... |
| 09:01.33 | Orionshock | if u can't raid - don't play |
| 09:01.34 | Diao | arenas are screwing up class balance |
| 09:01.36 | Diao | imo |
| 09:02.18 | Orionshock | this is a raider's game, if u can't do that then TSOL and find something else to do |
| 09:02.33 | Orionshock | DAoC is a good one |
| 09:02.35 | Mech0z | Orionshock I do not think that is up to you to decide |
| 09:02.47 | Orionshock | true but i can be a dick about it :P |
| 09:02.54 | Mech0z | true |
| 09:03.33 | Mech0z | But I would not mind them making pvp only items and pve only items |
| 09:03.33 | Mech0z | and pvp talent trees |
| 09:03.33 | Orionshock | you non-raiders screwed up the rest of the game so that you could have your ... 5 hrs A WEEK of play time... GG |
| 09:03.52 | Mech0z | I have raided until I started uni this fall |
| 09:03.53 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.03 | Mech0z | sure del your account |
| 09:04.04 | Mech0z | I wont |
| 09:04.18 | Diao | i raid while going to uni |
| 09:04.20 | Orionshock | im ranting and raving, don't feed the trolls |
| 09:04.26 | Diao | 10 hours a week of raid |
| 09:04.32 | Diao | lol |
| 09:04.36 | dreamss | how are arenas srewed? |
| 09:04.42 | dreamss | man they easier than pvp grind |
| 09:04.45 | dreamss | which i did |
| 09:04.45 | Orionshock | it's the gear |
| 09:04.45 | Mech0z | those 45 /played I have on my hunter since TBC launch and my other 70 rogue from summer is only worht a delete.... |
| 09:04.48 | dreamss | on 2 toons |
| 09:05.06 | dreamss | 10games a week is like nothing for free epics |
| 09:05.16 | Mech0z | I dont play 10 games |
| 09:05.26 | Mech0z | I play as many as there is time for, because its fun |
| 09:05.35 | Orionshock | when TBC came out they totaly and completely FUCKED the ItemLvl Equation. ... here is old world <Link to TF> here is New World < Link to some random lvl 70 blue that iLvl's higher than TF> |
| 09:05.38 | dreamss | thats dumb |
| 09:05.43 | dreamss | arenas are strategic |
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| 09:06.15 | Orionshock | as long as PvE gear was in the end better than pvp gear, balance ensued.. kept everyone happy |
| 09:06.34 | Mech0z | Well not if its better than pvp gear for pvp |
| 09:06.37 | Orionshock | those nubs that cryied about how they can't raid eventualy left the game for other "Instant Gratification" games |
| 09:06.40 | Mech0z | which ranged weapons clearly are |
| 09:06.46 | Orionshock | no no no |
| 09:06.49 | dreamss | and yeah pve and pvp gear are separated by the resis stat, it costs to much to be worth it for pvers |
| 09:06.56 | Diao | sad thing is |
| 09:06.57 | Orionshock | PERIOD, no if's, and's or But's |
| 09:06.59 | Diao | pvp gear |
| 09:07.03 | Diao | is better than pve gear for pve |
| 09:07.11 | dreamss | nah |
| 09:07.12 | Diao | until you reach the best raids |
| 09:07.44 | Orionshock | PvE gear Must domonate in every single way shape and form the pvp gear |
| 09:07.44 | Diao | like right now |
| 09:07.44 | Diao | s2 arena gera |
| 09:07.44 | Diao | is better than all raid gear until late ssc/tk |
| 09:07.44 | dreamss | thats the point |
| 09:07.46 | Diao | s3 will be better than ssc/tk, slightly worse than bt |
| 09:07.47 | Diao | for pve |
| 09:07.49 | dreamss | arena gear has to equate the best pve gear |
| 09:07.52 | Orionshock | when it ceaces to do so then 2/3' |
| 09:08.02 | Orionshock | when it ceaces to do so then 2/3's of the game hits the fan like last week's trash |
| 09:08.09 | Mech0z | Diao I rather raid with my gruul, mag & kara gear than my merci glad gear |
| 09:08.38 | Orionshock | GG, bliz for screwing up you own game by listing to those that ... don't even play half the crap they download off the interwebz |
| 09:09.04 | dreamss | i think its funny 10man gear is gonna be better than 25man |
| 09:09.05 | Cartas | Eh? |
| 09:09.38 | dreamss | dont forget reilance affects item budget a lot, its not a cheap stat |
| 09:09.44 | dreamss | and useless in pve |
| 09:09.47 | Orionshock | ... don' |
| 09:09.51 | Mech0z | Orionshock http://www.darklegacycomics.com/51.html |
| 09:09.57 | Orionshock | ... don't talk bout item budget... it's fubared anways... |
| 09:10.15 | dreamss | heh |
| 09:10.21 | Cartas | I'm still using an item from BWL. |
| 09:10.28 | Cartas | and I raid in BT. |
| 09:10.34 | dreamss | what item? |
| 09:10.40 | Cartas | Styleen's Impending Scarab. |
| 09:10.54 | Orionshock | Mech0z: yes... i know |
| 09:11.00 | Orionshock | i freely admit to it |
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| 09:12.19 | Orionshock | lolz |
| 09:12.50 | Orionshock | what bridge, it got destroy'ed last week by the warlocks that blizz forgot to nerf.... |
| 09:13.30 | Mech0z | well if your pve freak then why do you care for warlocks superiority in pvp? |
| 09:13.34 | dreamss | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/49.html <-- undead got poly |
| 09:13.37 | dreamss | lol |
| 09:13.43 | Orionshock | what u think that graphic about the earth crackling up and splitting when they summon an infernal was a joke... |
| 09:14.29 | Orionshock | Mech0z: .. because i play a druid... |
| 09:14.41 | Cartas | Go on... |
| 09:14.41 | Orionshock | and regardless what i do im always 6th in dps... :( |
| 09:14.45 | Cartas | lol |
| 09:14.51 | Cartas | You're a hybrid. |
| 09:14.54 | Mech0z | well your a hybrid |
| 09:14.59 | Mech0z | you shouldnt expect to be 1 |
| 09:15.05 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:15.07 | dreamss | druids are equally OP as locks |
| 09:15.13 | Cartas | Perhaps moreso? |
| 09:15.20 | Orionshock | noob - play one |
| 09:15.23 | Mech0z | And in 2v2 if you cared about pvp your the best healer at all |
| 09:15.33 | Orionshock | ... right |
| 09:15.40 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.54 | Mech0z | http://www.geekboys.org/arena/index/2/all/all/all/all/ |
| 09:16.24 | Tigerdyr | rinse and repeat Orionshock |
| 09:16.33 | Cartas | lol |
| 09:16.42 | Cartas | The top team is 1 warrior and 3 druids. |
| 09:16.48 | Cartas | Or, what? |
| 09:16.51 | Cartas | Hm |
| 09:16.51 | Orionshock | right... druid best healer in pvp... some how i don't believe you... |
| 09:16.58 | Mech0z | In top10 worldwide there are 6 druid healers |
| 09:17.06 | Mech0z | thats 60% of the top10 :) |
| 09:17.14 | Cartas | Oh come on, Orionshock. Your reasoning was amazingly inaccurate. |
| 09:17.23 | Mech0z | and thats only the active druids |
| 09:17.34 | Orionshock | oh really? |
| 09:17.48 | Orionshock | would u like me to fraps and post how many times it happens? |
| 09:17.58 | Cartas | It doesn't just happen to Druids... |
| 09:18.02 | Cartas | So what's your point with it? |
| 09:18.07 | Orionshock | i think google video would start rejecting my videos |
| 09:18.49 | Orionshock | my point was that locks are over powered and need to be nerfed |
| 09:18.57 | Cartas | In 1v1. |
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| 09:19.23 | Orionshock | they are a do't class, then why can they usualy kill me faster than a rogue? |
| 09:19.36 | Cartas | Because you have amazingly huge armour as a bear? :P |
| 09:19.46 | Mech0z | Orionshock I agree, in raids they do very high dps and still is one of the best utiliy class', and in 2v2 3v3 in pvp they are again very dominant because they have so much utility and their ever winning piss pet |
| 09:19.48 | Orionshock | no in caster form |
| 09:20.00 | Cartas | Aye, warlocks are IMO overpowered too. |
| 09:20.22 | Mech0z | at least in pvp the fel piss pet should be nerfed to oblivion |
| 09:20.34 | Cartas | I can't believe hunters got buffed. |
| 09:20.34 | CIA-7 | 03mallen * r54004 10TradeBar/ (TradeBar.lua locale-enUS.lua): |
| 09:20.34 | CIA-7 | TradeBar: |
| 09:20.34 | CIA-7 | - fixed a bug introduced by 7destiny (you are not allowed to modify my addon!) -> contact me, if something wrong! |
| 09:20.52 | Mech0z | Cartas say what? |
| 09:21.03 | Cartas | I can't believe hunters got buffed. |
| 09:21.06 | Mech0z | Have you seen stats of hunters in top teams |
| 09:21.08 | Orionshock | f this shadow word pain tooo |
| 09:21.10 | Cartas | Nope. |
| 09:21.23 | Mech0z | Thats because they aint there |
| 09:21.39 | Cartas | Nor am I! |
| 09:21.41 | Cartas | Buff me? |
| 09:21.53 | Mech0z | well statiscily |
| 09:21.59 | Mech0z | and what class are you? |
| 09:22.02 | Mech0z | if yoru a warrior I puke |
| 09:22.05 | Cartas | Warrior. |
| 09:22.08 | Mech0z | .... |
| 09:22.09 | Cartas | Protection spec. |
| 09:22.12 | Mech0z | did you look at that link |
| 09:22.18 | Mech0z | http://www.geekboys.org/arena/index/2/all/all/all/all/ |
| 09:22.19 | Cartas | I didn't say warriors. |
| 09:22.20 | Cartas | I said me. |
| 09:22.29 | Orionshock | problem with arenas are the same with pve, those that have, No Life, No Job, NO Responsibilities, and ALL the time in the world win. |
| 09:22.34 | Cartas | Going off your logic, if someone isn't in the top <x> arena teams, they need buffing. |
| 09:22.51 | Orionshock | so tell me what's the real difference? |
| 09:23.10 | Mech0z | well then its a ltp without being a jackass or finding a better partner because your class have the possibility to be nr 1 in 2v2 3v3 5v5 |
| 09:23.21 | Orionshock | the real difference is that it was just another way for blizzard to screw over another minority in the game... just because they could. |
| 09:23.26 | Mech0z | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Serennia |
| 09:23.38 | Mech0z | Look at that guys ratings |
| 09:23.41 | Cartas | Mech0z: How many protection warriors up top? |
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| 09:24.17 | Mech0z | Thats not the point |
| 09:24.22 | Mech0z | you need to spec pvp to be top in pvp |
| 09:24.24 | Cartas | Prot warriors need buffing, therefore. |
| 09:24.26 | Mech0z | thats not balance |
| 09:24.59 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:25.02 | Orionshock | it won't work |
| 09:25.05 | Mech0z | then I could make a hybrid hunter tree and expect it to be buffed, because I on purpose took crap talents |
| 09:25.06 | Orionshock | ppl have tried in the past |
| 09:25.12 | Orionshock | it just ... bad idea |
| 09:25.22 | Mech0z | Orionshock what are you talking about |
| 09:25.25 | Cartas | Protection warriors should have more purpose in PvP :( |
| 09:25.31 | Cartas | Why can't we PROTECT? |
| 09:25.38 | Mech0z | intervine |
| 09:25.42 | Cartas | Haha. |
| 09:25.47 | Mech0z | thats about it |
| 09:25.49 | Cartas | Ooh, that'll get me on top of the arena board. |
| 09:26.01 | Arrowmaster | because any way they try to buff you for pvp it will just inbalance pve |
| 09:26.01 | Mech0z | intervene + spell reflect and your done |
| 09:26.10 | Orionshock | Cartas: re: Bitch Classes / Specs .. qq more ppl |
| 09:26.18 | Diao | it doesn't matter about that guy's ratings |
| 09:26.20 | Cartas | Not always, Arrowmaster! |
| 09:26.25 | Cartas | They could make taunt work in PvP for a few seconds. |
| 09:26.30 | Diao | it's his teammates that help bring him up there |
| 09:26.31 | Cartas | That doesn't inbalance PvE whatsoever. |
| 09:26.42 | Arrowmaster | thats true but i doubt it would do enough of what you want |
| 09:26.48 | Cartas | True. |
| 09:26.49 | Mech0z | Cartas they said they wont do that because they dont want more "I cant controll my char" spells |
| 09:26.55 | Arrowmaster | and it would effect all warriors not just prot warriors |
| 09:26.59 | Cartas | I know, that's such a lame excuse. |
| 09:27.05 | Mech0z | maybe |
| 09:27.06 | Diao | it's a bs excuse lol |
| 09:27.08 | Cartas | Talent in prot that lets it happen then, Arrowmaster. |
| 09:27.11 | Diao | cause every other class has a control |
| 09:27.26 | Diao | except shaman |
| 09:29.14 | Arrowmaster | i think gear might be able to help the prot warrior issues more, since before tbc and resiliance prot warriors in tank gear could be perty damn beefy against other melee classes in bgs |
| 09:29.49 | Mech0z | 5 sunders and then devisate with a big 2hander |
| 09:29.54 | Mech0z | no clue if it hurts though on cloth |
| 09:30.10 | dreamss | tanks are good for taking damage :P wsg ftw |
| 09:30.19 | dreamss | but not usually the best spec |
| 09:30.32 | dreamss | in pvp |
| 09:30.35 | Mech0z | well MS is arena build |
| 09:30.40 | Mech0z | Fury is pve dps build |
| 09:30.45 | Mech0z | proc is pve tank build |
| 09:30.49 | Mech0z | its very balanced |
| 09:30.57 | Arrowmaster | i still think there should be a pvp sheild that sacrifies tons of armor for tons of block value |
| 09:31.10 | dreamss | what for? |
| 09:31.33 | Arrowmaster | sheild slam damage is based on block value |
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| 09:31.46 | dreamss | half of the def spec talents dont work in pvp :P |
| 09:31.54 | dreamss | heh |
| 09:32.07 | Mech0z | btw taunt works in arean |
| 09:32.13 | starlon | Anyone know how I get a header for bindings? |
| 09:32.14 | Arrowmaster | on pets |
| 09:32.15 | starlon | http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/WoWScrnShot_110607_032938.jpg |
| 09:32.23 | Mech0z | vs a hunter you can go into a trap and taunt a pet just before |
| 09:32.26 | Mech0z | to get it to break it |
| 09:32.56 | dreamss | yeah but taunt is not def spec |
| 09:32.57 | dreamss | heh |
| 09:33.24 | Wogroipl | that's not a prot talent, every warrior can taunt |
| 09:33.28 | Arrowmaster | starlon: http://www.wowwiki.com/Bindings.xml |
| 09:33.49 | starlon | Been there, but thanks |
| 09:34.02 | Arrowmaster | it tells you exactly how |
| 09:34.05 | dreamss | if u take a prot into arenas u gonna get loled at |
| 09:34.12 | Mech0z | Wogroipl proc can taunt ofter |
| 09:34.22 | Arrowmaster | <Binding name="DOSTUFF" description="Default description" header="MYDOSTUFF"> |
| 09:34.24 | Paradox_ | anyone know why a certain font im using wont work in shared media? |
| 09:34.24 | starlon | Well maybe I missed something. |
| 09:34.29 | Arrowmaster | BINDING_HEADER_MYDOSTUFF = "The header"; |
| 09:34.35 | dreamss | any place that lists the top arena teams by class/spec |
| 09:34.46 | Mech0z | no clue |
| 09:34.53 | dreamss | i need a spec for my lock |
| 09:34.55 | dreamss | been demo |
| 09:35.03 | Mech0z | for pvp? |
| 09:35.12 | starlon | http://ace.pastey.net/76691 |
| 09:35.13 | dreamss | yah |
| 09:35.15 | Mech0z | http://www.geekboys.org/arena/ |
| 09:35.24 | Mech0z | look there and hope they are pvp spec |
| 09:35.53 | starlon | Oh you have to have those globals? That's bleh |
| 09:36.00 | Arrowmaster | starlon: dont use spaces in it |
| 09:37.15 | starlon | What's the whole point of the field header? |
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| 09:37.27 | Arrowmaster | to show the header |
| 09:37.36 | starlon | <Binding name="DOSTUFF" description="Default description" header="MYDOSTUFF"> |
| 09:37.38 | starlon | That field |
| 09:37.39 | Arrowmaster | the notes at the bottem of that page explain it |
| 09:38.27 | Lothaer | how hard would it be to make a mod kinda like AtlasLoot but instead of showing boss loot it would show boss stats and skills? |
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| 09:41.22 | Diao | damnit |
| 09:41.25 | Diao | fuck blizzard and their pos servers |
| 09:41.33 | Diao | i died because the server froze |
| 09:42.11 | dreamss | oh dude |
| 09:42.19 | dreamss | servers are stable compared to launch |
| 09:43.37 | Diao | true |
| 09:43.41 | Diao | but |
| 09:43.43 | Diao | paying a 6g repair bill |
| 09:43.46 | Diao | because of server lag |
| 09:43.48 | Diao | is lame |
| 09:43.51 | fridgid | is there a mod that lets you highlight your chat log? |
| 09:45.08 | winkiller | "highlight"? |
| 09:45.10 | starlon | thanks dude |
| 09:45.13 | winkiller | like in irc |
| 09:45.17 | winkiller | hmm |
| 09:45.31 | fridgid | yeah like if i do a command and it spits out a shitload of code or a table |
| 09:45.42 | fridgid | i need a way to export it out of wow via copy or something similer |
| 09:45.47 | winkiller | chatlog |
| 09:45.59 | fridgid | that ace'd? |
| 09:46.20 | winkiller | < Diao> fuck blizzard and their pos servers <- now I thought like a min how "Point of sale" could be related here 8) |
| 09:46.30 | winkiller | no clue, there were some chatlog mods |
| 09:46.44 | winkiller | I ditched em after having 100MB of text and never wanting to look at it |
| 09:46.51 | Paradox | hey guys |
| 09:46.53 | Paradox | using clearfont |
| 09:46.55 | winkiller | prat maybe also has a module |
| 09:47.06 | winkiller | Paradox: DON'T STALK ME! |
| 09:47.08 | Paradox | adding my own font, what should I put in place of [boldItalic] and that stuff? |
| 09:47.13 | Paradox | [normal]? |
| 09:47.23 | Paradox | in the uhh code for it |
| 09:49.04 | fridgid | not that anybody would care but the modules called Elephant and its available via WAU, ty for info |
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| 09:53.41 | CIA-7 | cyCircled: |
| 09:53.41 | CIA-7 | - Added Cooling 2 Plug-in. (Bruenn) |
| 09:58.11 | CIA-7 | 03starlon * r54006 10DebuffAlarm/ (DebuffAlarm.lua bindings.xml): |
| 09:58.11 | CIA-7 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 09:58.11 | CIA-7 | - Keybinding added |
| 09:58.11 | CIA-7 | - Minor tweaks |
| 10:00.01 | fridgid | is there an easy way to format a table into a string? |
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| 10:00.56 | Ellipsis | a human readable string or just something you can parse later? |
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| 10:01.09 | theoddone33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.20 | theoddone33 | pugging skirmishes |
| 10:01.32 | theoddone33 | died and the druid on my team is taking forever to die |
| 10:01.40 | theoddone33 | but mods hid the minimap icon |
| 10:01.40 | Tigerdyr | theoddone33: /afk ? ;-) |
| 10:01.46 | theoddone33 | tried it |
| 10:01.47 | fridgid | Ellipsis, humand readable |
| 10:01.54 | fridgid | something i could use SendAddonMessage with |
| 10:01.59 | Tigerdyr | hmm.. Oh, you said arena.. lol |
| 10:02.14 | CIA-7 | 03chuanhsing * r54007 10Assessment/ (23 files in 4 dirs): Assessment: update zhTW Translation |
| 10:02.16 | fridgid | or even SendChatMessage |
| 10:02.29 | fridgid | i know it'll be a giant string but i can work with that |
| 10:02.56 | fridgid | was hoping their would be an ace command like TableToString >_< |
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| 10:03.51 | theoddone33 | travel form is a bit OP |
| 10:03.55 | theoddone33 | in nagrand arena |
| 10:04.15 | fridgid | nm figured it out |
| 10:04.30 | fridgid | lua slinger is the shit |
| 10:05.49 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:05.50 | Wobin | http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 10:05.55 | Wobin | it sounds really good at the end |
| 10:06.18 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.21 | starlon | mini games? |
| 10:07.28 | Wobin | The minigames? Like "Misdirect onto the squishy"? "Curse of Recklessness the melee"? |
| 10:07.51 | Orionshock | like tick tack toe |
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| 10:08.54 | theoddone33 | this is ridiculous |
| 10:09.04 | theoddone33 | a druid has survived against warlock priest for 12 minutves |
| 10:09.09 | theoddone33 | and I can't figure out how to leave arena :( |
| 10:09.22 | theoddone33 | they got him down to like 1k health once |
| 10:09.26 | theoddone33 | I thought that was gonna do it, but no |
| 10:09.48 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.50 | Orionshock | ? |
| 10:10.01 | Orionshock | 12mins? |
| 10:10.04 | Orionshock | DC & Fear? |
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| 10:10.12 | Orionshock | that u just really suck |
| 10:10.29 | theoddone33 | he's geared pretty well, and they were an 1800 team |
| 10:10.43 | Orionshock | DC & Fear? |
| 10:10.58 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.01 | theoddone33 | he was LoS most of their spells |
| 10:11.08 | Wobin | I wish we could do that =P |
| 10:11.28 | Wobin | like all the other npc mc mechanics |
| 10:11.55 | theoddone33 | even when they got him oom he survived for like 2 minutes |
| 10:12.30 | theoddone33 | ah well, I learned something |
| 10:13.00 | theoddone33 | attack the dps when you're with a druid |
| 10:13.34 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54008 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: koKR typo fix |
| 10:17.22 | Diao | yep |
| 10:17.33 | Diao | druids are so good at kiting that you have to focus on the dps |
| 10:18.45 | winkiller | strange, I always get oneshotted on my druid |
| 10:18.49 | winkiller | so much for kiting |
| 10:18.58 | winkiller | pom pyro + anything = dead |
| 10:19.10 | theoddone33 | well in 2v2 I'm always in the mindset of "i'm a rogue, I have to lock down the healer" |
| 10:19.24 | theoddone33 | but when I'm with a priest or druid I have to think different because they can disrupt the heals well enough |
| 10:19.49 | CIA-7 | 03stormfx * r54009 10cyCircled_VolGold/Textures/ (gloss.tga overlay.tga): |
| 10:19.50 | CIA-7 | cyCircled_VolGold: |
| 10:19.50 | CIA-7 | - Toned down the colors. Much easier on the eyes. :o |
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| 10:24.35 | Diao | winkiller maybe you should get some resil and hp :) |
| 10:25.09 | winkiller | pff |
| 10:25.18 | winkiller | I got s2 shoulders and general's belt |
| 10:25.24 | winkiller | enough I say! |
| 10:25.32 | winkiller | and it should be enough around 1500 rating |
| 10:25.43 | winkiller | but I never really learned to play the druid like the rogue |
| 10:25.51 | winkiller | rushed to 70 and tanked |
| 10:26.02 | theoddone33 | we started a team today |
| 10:26.10 | theoddone33 | and went 6-0 with a priest in greens |
| 10:26.12 | theoddone33 | in 3v3 |
| 10:26.39 | theoddone33 | unfortunately we ended 9-5 but eh... you can get far with bad gear and good coordination |
| 10:27.18 | Diao | 1500 rating nowadays |
| 10:27.26 | Diao | near the end of season 2 |
| 10:27.33 | Diao | even teams with 1400s rating have full s2 arena gear |
| 10:29.09 | winkiller | yep |
| 10:29.19 | winkiller | that's the problem |
| 10:29.36 | winkiller | and my druid played like 3 weeks of 10 games for the s2 shoulders |
| 10:29.44 | winkiller | which I socketed pure stamina for tanking :) |
| 10:29.48 | winkiller | whole intention in this |
| 10:29.57 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 10:30.03 | theoddone33 | 2 mutilate rogues vs 2 ret paladins |
| 10:30.08 | theoddone33 | that was a fun arena to theorycraft |
| 10:30.12 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:30.15 | theoddone33 | the rogues won |
| 10:30.15 | Diao | lol |
| 10:30.17 | Diao | :( |
| 10:30.24 | Diao | 2 combat rogues vs ms warrior and ret pally |
| 10:30.27 | Diao | ms warr/ret pally won |
| 10:30.30 | Diao | :D |
| 10:30.37 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:30.47 | Diao | it's funny |
| 10:30.51 | Diao | my friend's ret pally JUST hit 70 |
| 10:30.53 | Diao | last week |
| 10:30.53 | theoddone33 | was kinda weird too because we had split dps on the two paladins |
| 10:30.59 | Diao | we took him through kara |
| 10:31.07 | Diao | he got a bunch of rogue gear, plus the HH helm |
| 10:31.11 | Diao | so he's really badly geared |
| 10:31.17 | Diao | and we made an arena team today |
| 10:31.22 | Diao | went 7-3 |
| 10:31.34 | theoddone33 | yeah ret can be crazy |
| 10:31.37 | theoddone33 | burstwise |
| 10:32.00 | Diao | yea we wrecked a ton of teams |
| 10:32.06 | Diao | i guess they figured |
| 10:32.10 | Diao | he wouldn't be a threat |
| 10:32.11 | Diao | and went for me |
| 10:32.15 | theoddone33 | I'd target him first |
| 10:32.16 | Diao | tried to burn me down but i'm a tough target :D |
| 10:32.25 | theoddone33 | well, depends on the team I guess |
| 10:32.37 | Diao | yeah one of the teams we lost to was holy priest/rogue |
| 10:32.40 | Diao | cause priest mana burned him |
| 10:32.47 | Diao | which really kills his dps |
| 10:32.50 | theoddone33 | I do kinda do that though... I see glowy hands and think "not a threat" |
| 10:33.07 | Diao | and |
| 10:33.09 | Diao | we lost to hunter/shaman :( |
| 10:33.15 | Diao | hunters are ridiculously good in arena when played properly |
| 10:33.21 | Diao | i don't know why people say they're so bad |
| 10:33.32 | theoddone33 | frost trap would own dps war/pally I'd guess |
| 10:33.39 | theoddone33 | and chain lightning boom |
| 10:33.53 | Diao | well resto shammy |
| 10:33.57 | Diao | but yeah |
| 10:34.00 | Diao | frost trap + imp wing clip |
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| 10:34.04 | Diao | painful |
| 10:34.13 | Diao | i'm still trying to figure out |
| 10:34.14 | xerawx | its the same with hunters in pve.. if played badly they're really really bad.. and so many people play them that naturally a lot are bad |
| 10:34.20 | Diao | what do we kill in a 5s team |
| 10:34.25 | xerawx | but if played well they're invaluable |
| 10:34.36 | Diao | elesham/rdruid/hpally/dual ms warr |
| 10:34.40 | Diao | which target do you go for :( |
| 10:34.50 | Dezzi | elesham |
| 10:35.02 | Diao | our team is hpri/hpallyx2/ms warr x2 |
| 10:35.03 | Dezzi | or the pally if you have a holy priest on your team |
| 10:35.11 | Diao | we tried going for shaman first round |
| 10:35.18 | Diao | got wrecked |
| 10:35.20 | Diao | cause he got a freedom |
| 10:35.31 | Diao | then we tried the pally |
| 10:35.36 | Dezzi | yeah you don't have enough firepower to drop anything on their team that isn't a healer |
| 10:35.47 | Diao | they wrecked our priest |
| 10:35.50 | Diao | cause he's badly geared atm |
| 10:35.53 | Diao | only like 200 resil |
| 10:36.18 | Diao | he MDed their bloodlsut though |
| 10:36.19 | Diao | pretty awesome |
| 10:36.21 | Dezzi | man I'd sure like to know when season 3 is coming :/ |
| 10:36.39 | Diao | me too |
| 10:36.42 | Diao | i'm capped on points |
| 10:36.44 | Diao | don't know what to buy |
| 10:36.50 | Dezzi | I'm close to capped |
| 10:37.07 | Dezzi | well, 3.2k I guess :/ |
| 10:37.09 | theoddone33 | skirmish is kinda fun |
| 10:37.20 | Dezzi | I only have 2pc season 2 and the mainhand for arena gear |
| 10:37.28 | Dezzi | plus all of the honor stuff lol |
| 10:37.33 | Diao | yea |
| 10:37.35 | Diao | i need to save up |
| 10:37.36 | Diao | 75k honor |
| 10:37.40 | Diao | cause the 5 new pieces in s3 |
| 10:37.41 | Diao | cost 78k |
| 10:37.44 | theoddone33 | my pvp gear is awesome |
| 10:37.52 | Dezzi | but I can play on a 2200ish 3v3 just fine |
| 10:37.53 | theoddone33 | I've got... band of accuria |
| 10:38.15 | theoddone33 | oldschool rank 2 trinket or whatever |
| 10:38.32 | theoddone33 | auction house chest |
| 10:38.41 | theoddone33 | sethekk quest neck |
| 10:39.26 | Dezzi | lol this torrent has 19 thousand seeders |
| 10:39.30 | Dezzi | and 45 thousand leechers |
| 10:39.43 | Diao | rofl |
| 10:39.44 | Diao | what is it |
| 10:39.50 | Diao | rank 2 trinket is terrible :( |
| 10:39.52 | Dezzi | today's episode of heroes |
| 10:39.56 | Diao | get the new one |
| 10:39.58 | Diao | 2 min cd is amazing |
| 10:39.59 | Diao | ah |
| 10:40.35 | dreamss | how big is 2.3 gonna be.. 280? gezz |
| 10:42.05 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:42.12 | theoddone33 | kinda miffed that they made the trinket better than wotf |
| 10:42.15 | theoddone33 | but I guess I need both |
| 10:42.27 | dieck_ | dreamss: Zul Aman graphics |
| 10:42.39 | dreamss | tought those came with 2.2 |
| 10:42.47 | Diao | well |
| 10:42.49 | Diao | wotf gives immunity |
| 10:42.51 | Diao | trinket doesn't |
| 10:43.48 | dreamss | is this teh seccond download part? |
| 10:43.55 | dreamss | hmm |
| 10:44.29 | dreamss | 14Bandwidth: 04(Current Downstream: 2.22kb/s 15 Current Upstream: 3.93kb/s04) |
| 10:46.12 | Queequeg | is there a way to find out which addon a function belongs to? |
| 10:46.38 | Diao | bugsack? |
| 10:48.41 | Nargiddley | /print issecurevariable("FunctionName") |
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| 10:48.59 | Nargiddley | 2nd return is which addon 'owns' the taint |
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| 10:49.37 | Queequeg | nice thx |
| 10:49.57 | Nargiddley | hm, might be wrong done like that |
| 10:50.50 | Nargiddley | nm its working |
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| 11:03.52 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r54010 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 11:03.52 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 11:03.52 | CIA-7 | -- Added rage & energy to the cooldown potion mana button. |
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| 11:12.26 | Zhinjio | so ... why is it that when I initialize a text element with "", and then query it later, TextElement:GetText != ""? |
| 11:12.35 | Zhinjio | its like "" initializes to nil, or something. |
| 11:14.04 | CIA-7 | 03oridan * r54011 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 11:14.04 | CIA-7 | SpellReminder: |
| 11:14.04 | CIA-7 | - should stop showing dots for dead mobs/players |
| 11:14.25 | Queequeg | you mean TextElement:GetText() != "", right? |
| 11:16.28 | Zhinjio | I do... TextElement:SetText( "" ) |
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| 11:16.43 | Zhinjio | then later ... if ( TextElement:GetText() == "" ) then... |
| 11:16.55 | Queequeg | kk |
| 11:16.59 | Zhinjio | and the "true" case doesn't execute, it goes to the "false" case. |
| 11:18.08 | Queequeg | maybe SetText treats "" as nil |
| 11:18.26 | Zhinjio | I'm beginning to think, yeah. ... |
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| 11:22.12 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 11:22.12 | CIA-7 | - Updated zhTW locale file. |
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| 12:14.08 | Queequeg | is there any way to create an ace2 addon not tainted by ace2? can i inject the stuff from AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new() into my addon? |
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| 12:20.07 | JoshBorke | Queequeg: what do you mean by not tainted by ace2? |
| 12:21.07 | JoshBorke | how does Ace2 taint your addon? |
| 12:21.59 | Queequeg | when my script starts with MyAddon = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0"), then /dump issecurevariable("MyAddon") reports the taint as "Ace2" |
| 12:22.36 | JoshBorke | one second |
| 12:23.06 | Queequeg | issecurevariable always seems to return Ace2 for Ace2 addons |
| 12:23.11 | JoshBorke | and what happens when you just do /dump issecurevariable({})? |
| 12:23.54 | Queequeg | {} is secure |
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| 12:24.22 | Queequeg | oops no its not^^ |
| 12:24.53 | Queequeg | but issecurevariable("")==1 |
| 12:25.03 | JoshBorke | do you understand taint? |
| 12:25.07 | JoshBorke | and secure variables? |
| 12:25.40 | Queequeg | not really |
| 12:25.59 | JoshBorke | why does it matter to you? |
| 12:27.26 | Queequeg | trying to explore the possibilities for writing a profiler, and i want to be able to find out which addon a function belongs to |
| 12:27.39 | JoshBorke | Queequeg: then you need to read this http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-3 |
| 12:27.46 | JoshBorke | and the subsequent forum posting |
| 12:28.11 | Queequeg | will do |
| 12:37.27 | Ellipsis | ok so this is probably a kinda dumb question |
| 12:37.56 | Ellipsis | but are all the darkmoon faire cards equally rare/expensive? |
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| 12:38.11 | JoshBorke | no |
| 12:38.39 | Ellipsis | which are the rare ones then? |
| 12:38.59 | [dRaCo] | the higher ones |
| 12:39.08 | [dRaCo] | 5+ only drops in instances |
| 12:39.13 | Wobin | the newer ones |
| 12:39.20 | Wobin | lunacy etc |
| 12:39.23 | Ellipsis | ahh, k |
| 12:39.29 | Ellipsis | ty for the help guys <3 |
| 12:40.19 | JoshBorke | even the newer ones cost different amounts |
| 12:40.46 | Queequeg | JoshBorke, so that basically means that ace2 is not suited for what i want, because it wasnt designed with profiling in mind? |
| 12:41.10 | [Ammo] | boggle? |
| 12:41.27 | [Ammo] | Expo profiles Ace2 addons just fine |
| 12:41.28 | Queequeg | btw i was aware of iriels post, tried it but it didnt affect the result |
| 12:41.52 | JoshBorke | it basically means you're fubared unless you profile individual functions yourself and don't use blizzard's stuff |
| 12:41.53 | [Ammo] | but when profiling you need to run with all libs standalone |
| 12:42.07 | [Ammo] | or your addon gets blamed for libs it loaded first |
| 12:44.25 | Queequeg | k im gonna try expo then, thx |
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| 13:01.10 | fraak | Hi there everyone, I have a little question about fubar2. I know it is backwads compatible with fubar1 addons however the fubar-compat plugin come's up with some errors and is quite outdated? Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? |
| 13:03.29 | Funkeh` | FuBar2 is the old ace version |
| 13:03.41 | Funkeh` | FuBar3, also known as FuBar is the newer rock version |
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| 13:03.59 | fraak | ah ic, that i did not knew. Thank you for your time |
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| 13:08.30 | Queequeg | [Ammo], but expo doesnt blame the addon for calls to the library, but the library itself, right? |
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| 13:12.05 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 13:12.23 | Ellipsis | is there a way to make bulkmail2 only autosend items if you have at least X of them? |
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| 13:12.34 | [Ammo] | Queequeg: expo allows you to profile the namespace of an addon or a library |
| 13:12.40 | Ellipsis | or better yet, only send full stacks? |
| 13:13.16 | [Ammo] | Queequeg: it's very useful for when you want to see how your addon performs |
| 13:13.22 | [Ammo] | and what parts of it could use a touch of optimization |
| 13:13.58 | [Ammo] | Ellipsis: I don't think you can |
| 13:14.46 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:14.55 | [Ammo] | but that's no real issue |
| 13:14.59 | [Ammo] | 30 copper per mail *yay* |
| 13:15.17 | Ellipsis | I don't like wasting 30 copper sending 2 netherweave when I'm about to go farm more :P |
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| 13:15.30 | Ellipsis | I need that 30 copper to put towards my epic mount! |
| 13:16.39 | [Ammo] | hire a chinaman! |
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| 13:16.57 | Ellipsis | good plan |
| 13:17.01 | [Ammo] | pay him with your natures given talents! |
| 13:17.04 | [Ammo] | voila :) |
| 13:17.15 | Ellipsis | just what are you implying? |
| 13:17.20 | kenlyric | nah, they'll work for even cheaper than that! |
| 13:17.20 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:17.29 | Ellipsis | if I wanted to do that, I would just ask my bf for the cash :) |
| 13:17.34 | [Ammo] | kenlyric just volunteered to be a bodydouble |
| 13:18.55 | kenlyric | http://okoloth.blogspot.com/2007/11/status-update-1st-november.html |
| 13:19.05 | kenlyric | bah, mt |
| 13:19.53 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 13:20.00 | Wobin | that's an interesting level breakdown |
| 13:20.06 | Wobin | 40% of players have hit 70 |
| 13:20.19 | kenlyric | I was hoping it was updates to the build breakdowns, but I guess those are coming. |
| 13:20.32 | kenlyric | 40% of characters. |
| 13:20.47 | Wobin | well true |
| 13:22.08 | kenlyric | wow jutsu has 1,766,444 with raid gear :) |
| 13:22.10 | Nefarion | that doesn't count lvl 10s |
| 13:22.12 | Nefarion | or below |
| 13:22.25 | Kalroth | Raid gear usually implies level 70 :) |
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| 13:22.50 | kenlyric | yes, but it's pretty shocking how many 70s have raid gear :) |
| 13:23.03 | Wobin | is it? |
| 13:23.12 | Ellipsis | if you define raid gear as one kara item or better, sure |
| 13:23.37 | Wobin | you could define it as any TK instance gear too, like from Arc/Bot/Mech |
| 13:23.47 | kenlyric | it means practically everyone is going to kara. |
| 13:23.48 | Wobin | aside from druids |
| 13:23.55 | kenlyric | I define it as "purples from raids" |
| 13:24.50 | kenlyric | his scan is probably arena teams + their guilds, so it must miss a lot of people. |
| 13:25.03 | Nefarion | are these people really in charge of the game i play? http://kotaku.com/gaming/halloween-hangover/how-blizzard-celebrated-halloween-318035.php lol |
| 13:26.03 | kenlyric | i'm worried that flamethrower might actually work. |
| 13:26.42 | kenlyric | wooo! alliance guild on my server finally got into BT. |
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| 13:26.53 | kenlyric | bring on da epic patterns. |
| 13:27.06 | Nefarion | i'm worried they may take it too serious |
| 13:27.13 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 13:27.13 | Nefarion | lol |
| 13:27.42 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54015 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: minor tweak |
| 13:28.07 | Ellipsis | k that's just lame |
| 13:28.13 | Ellipsis | all the cool kids were Portal characters this year |
| 13:28.34 | Nefarion | basement case blizz devs =/= cool kids |
| 13:28.50 | kenlyric | what language is that =/= from? |
| 13:29.05 | Nefarion | but they're trying their hardest. i hear the cool kids got a string of nerfs comin'. maybe the devs will dominate soon. |
| 13:29.06 | kenlyric | I see it all over, so it must be common. |
| 13:29.08 | kenlyric | lua? |
| 13:29.11 | Nefarion | no |
| 13:29.18 | Nefarion | it's a broken equal sign |
| 13:29.20 | sb | Funkeh`: that flash thingie rocks |
| 13:29.34 | kenlyric | some sort of 4chan meme? |
| 13:29.41 | Nefarion | an equal sign with a vertical (or slightly vertical) line through it means not-equal-to in math |
| 13:29.49 | Funkeh` | sb, I take paypalcookies |
| 13:30.01 | sb | ;) |
| 13:30.06 | Nefarion | slightly slanted** would probably be better |
| 13:30.17 | Nefarion | lua is ~= btw |
| 13:30.50 | kenlyric | back in my day all the cool kids did != so I did too. |
| 13:30.52 | Nefarion | anyone buying into the idea that this is kalgan: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Proximo ? It's been mentioned *everywhere* |
| 13:31.06 | winkiller | I use != like every sane person |
| 13:31.10 | Nefarion | != =/= ~=? |
| 13:31.22 | winkiller | o\-< |
| 13:31.25 | winkiller | o|-< |
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| 13:31.28 | winkiller | o/-< |
| 13:31.29 | kenlyric | ≠ |
| 13:31.36 | winkiller | \o/ |
| 13:31.58 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols |
| 13:32.17 | kenlyric | (The symbols != and <> are primarily from computer science. They are avoided in mathematical texts.) |
| 13:33.06 | Nefarion | 𝕂∃𝕂 |
| 13:33.13 | Ozguli | oh yeah? |
| 13:33.16 | Nefarion | yarly |
| 13:33.23 | Ozguli | I'm using those symbols often |
| 13:33.33 | Ozguli | when writing maths by hand |
| 13:33.50 | kenlyric | ( | ) |
| 13:33.56 | kenlyric | "inner product" LOL |
| 13:34.06 | winkiller | ass I'd say |
| 13:34.06 | dieck | Ozguli: you used !=? Not the slashed =? |
| 13:34.07 | kenlyric | filthy *and* practical |
| 13:34.11 | winkiller | not inner product |
| 13:34.27 | Ozguli | oo... |
| 13:34.38 | Ozguli | =/= for not equal |
| 13:34.44 | Nefarion | ∮∪⊂K |
| 13:34.48 | Ozguli | thought about n! |
| 13:35.04 | Nefarion | bitches beat that |
| 13:35.08 | kenlyric | but =/= isn't the symbol, ≠ is |
| 13:35.20 | Ozguli | my encoding doesn't support it |
| 13:35.29 | Nefarion | ≠isn't on *my* keyboard. =/= is easier to type. |
| 13:35.32 | kenlyric | =/= must be the computer lazy way to write it... so might as well go with the computer term. |
| 13:35.45 | Nefarion | in that case i got an idea |
| 13:35.47 | kenlyric | when in rome, have orgies. |
| 13:35.52 | Nefarion | "is not equal to" |
| 13:36.29 | dieck | boolean Object.equals(Object)? :) |
| 13:36.30 | kenlyric | =/= makes sense along with == though. |
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| 13:36.43 | winkiller | php has !== |
| 13:36.47 | kenlyric | oh gods |
| 13:36.52 | dieck | yes, for type conformity |
| 13:37.06 | dieck | but normally you just use != in php |
| 13:37.08 | winkiller | it's 1 == "1", but 1 !== "1" |
| 13:37.26 | Wobin | what? |
| 13:37.43 | dieck | php's automagically typecasts can be real pita, but in most cases they work quite well. |
| 13:37.43 | Wobin | == == !==? |
| 13:37.43 | winkiller | == takes 1 = "1" = true and !== does not |
| 13:37.52 | Nefarion | lua> 1 != "1" |
| 13:37.52 | cladbot | Nefarion: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "1 != "1""]:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 13:37.54 | winkiller | === and !== that is |
| 13:38.08 | kenlyric | do you think devs are allowed to raid? |
| 13:38.14 | Nefarion | why not? |
| 13:38.15 | Wobin | probably |
| 13:38.18 | winkiller | ofc |
| 13:38.21 | winkiller | look at us forums |
| 13:38.25 | winkiller | they always talk about it |
| 13:38.28 | Nefarion | kalgan'll be rockin' out his s3.... lol |
| 13:38.34 | Nefarion | so why not raid? |
| 13:38.42 | Ozguli | they ARE dev anyway... |
| 13:38.47 | kenlyric | I notice CMs talking about it. |
| 13:38.49 | Nefarion | most of them say *they're gamers first* |
| 13:38.52 | Ozguli | they're always the most active players |
| 13:38.56 | Wobin | well CMs aren't devs |
| 13:38.59 | kenlyric | right, but doesn't it give them an advantage? |
| 13:39.07 | winkiller | define dev then |
| 13:39.08 | Ozguli | anyone can access the info nowadays |
| 13:39.13 | kenlyric | since they know the inner workings fo the fight. |
| 13:39.14 | dieck | I'd even say they HAVE to raid. At least if you want to improve things, you should have a feeling about what goes wrong |
| 13:39.18 | winkiller | Tigole is lead game designer |
| 13:39.24 | winkiller | does that qualify as dev? |
| 13:39.29 | Nefarion | why? 'cause you think they know their own game thoroughly? because if you really believe that then start pvping. |
| 13:40.14 | winkiller | Nefarion: wow isn't balanced around 1v1 pvp |
| 13:40.17 | Nefarion | Jeff "Tigole" Kaplan and Tom "Kalgan" Chilton are 2 of the top developers, in charge of design (and balance in Kal's case) |
| 13:40.21 | winkiller | ha! always wanted to say that |
| 13:40.27 | kenlyric | Nefarion: and they raid? |
| 13:40.32 | Nefarion | winkiller: that doesn't mean it's balanced at all |
| 13:40.37 | winkiller | ;) |
| 13:40.43 | Nefarion | i'll guarantee they raid |
| 13:41.05 | Fisker- | Nefarion so that was blizzard? |
| 13:41.13 | Nefarion | what was blizzard? what? |
| 13:41.54 | Fisker- | the halloween stuff |
| 13:42.00 | Nefarion | oh yes |
| 13:42.03 | Nefarion | apparently |
| 13:42.48 | kenlyric | he must raid on a different toon http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/tichondrius/Foundation.html#_theeye |
| 13:43.00 | kenlyric | assuming that's him. |
| 13:43.43 | Obelixprime | nice |
| 13:43.47 | Zhinjio | question about variables passed to functions... |
| 13:43.50 | Nefarion | y'know if Proximo is really tom then i'm really very disappointed. |
| 13:43.52 | Obelixprime | we jumped 71 spots for downing illidari council |
| 13:43.58 | Zhinjio | are they passed by value or reference? |
| 13:44.02 | Zhinjio | or are both possible? |
| 13:44.17 | Nefarion | he tends to be pretty stuck up about his ms warr. i'd expect him to be up quite a bit higher than he is. |
| 13:44.27 | Ellipsis | iirc variables are by val and tables by ref |
| 13:44.50 | Zhinjio | aha. that would make sense. |
| 13:44.53 | Ellipsis | well, yeah |
| 13:45.12 | Zhinjio | so in my function definition if I have... function Blah( val1 ) |
| 13:45.22 | Zhinjio | it creates a local instantiation of "val1" |
| 13:45.26 | Zhinjio | in the local scope, yes? |
| 13:45.50 | Zhinjio | I mean, local scope inside that function's code |
| 13:46.20 | Ellipsis | I believe so |
| 13:46.27 | Nefarion | test it |
| 13:46.37 | Nefarion | lua> |
| 13:46.38 | cladbot | Nefarion: |
| 13:46.39 | Zhinjio | heh. I have that shirt |
| 13:46.41 | Ellipsis | stupid server restarts >_> |
| 13:47.52 | Ellipsis | whoa, hey, it's almost 6am |
| 13:47.56 | Ellipsis | when did that happen? |
| 13:48.07 | dieck | hm, no. it's almost 3pm :) |
| 13:49.03 | cncfanatics | agree dieck :) |
| 13:49.22 | Nefarion | 8:48 am ftw |
| 13:51.06 | cncfanatics | french lessons ftl, booooored |
| 13:51.56 | Ellipsis | yes but can you tell us that in french? |
| 13:53.45 | kenlyric | Je boublais.. enelephoner.. bloop-de-bloop! |
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| 13:57.13 | Ellipsis | whoa |
| 13:57.39 | Ellipsis | and suddenly, Blizz is forgiven for the server restart |
| 13:57.47 | Ellipsis | first kill after I got back dropped a boe blue |
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| 13:58.15 | Nefarion | link or it didn't happen |
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| 13:59.43 | Ellipsis | robe of the crimson order |
| 14:01.08 | Nefarion | sexy |
| 14:02.59 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 14:03.03 | Ellipsis | wonder how much I can AH it for |
| 14:04.06 | ramoz | 30g? |
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| 14:06.22 | Kalroth | 25-30g |
| 14:06.35 | Kalroth | aka the cost of a large prismatic :p |
| 14:06.45 | Zhinjio | if you want to delete an entry in the middle of a numerically indexed table, do you have to pop all subsequent table entries up? |
| 14:06.50 | Zhinjio | (that would be completely lame) |
| 14:06.54 | Health | HEHE how funny Kalroth! you're my idol |
| 14:08.33 | Kalroth | LOL AJAX |
| 14:08.51 | Ellipsis | Kalroth, that's about twice a large prismatic :P |
| 14:08.53 | Ellipsis | at least on my realm |
| 14:10.18 | Queequeg | Zhinjio, table.remove(<table>,<index>) |
| 14:11.25 | Zhinjio | *sigh* ... I knew that. Its late. I'm being ridiculous. |
| 14:11.27 | Zhinjio | thank you. |
| 14:12.23 | Queequeg | =D |
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| 14:23.03 | Kazie | can Simpleminimap move pvpobjectives and all kinda things? |
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| 14:24.39 | LAG|Domo | Can someone tell me what "CFL" is? |
| 14:24.58 | Queequeg | Kazie, only quest objectives afaik |
| 14:25.07 | Queequeg | + quest timer |
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| 14:25.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
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| 14:27.02 | aeon|capullo | Domo: what context? |
| 14:27.40 | LAG|Domo | I asked someone what this clock addon was, and he replied "Modded CFL" |
| 14:28.01 | silentium | Clock For Losers? ;> |
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| 14:28.18 | LAG|Domo | Was in this screenshot: http://surl.se/gdzs |
| 14:30.02 | haste | far from hard to recreate |
| 14:30.12 | haste | if it's the three fontstrings with the odd font |
| 14:32.57 | Wobin | "Clock Framerate Latency" I'd imagine |
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| 14:37.09 | Xelopheris | Okay, updated pitbull, can't go into raid configuration mode >< |
| 14:38.27 | Wobin | I wouldn't suggest pitbull for raids |
| 14:38.50 | Wobin | it's basically "too much" for raids |
| 14:39.02 | Ellipsis | LAG|Domo: he probably meant CML |
| 14:39.20 | Ellipsis | it's somewhere on the forums in a few different forms |
| 14:39.25 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r54016 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: |
| 14:39.25 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: Flash module is now Flash'N'Shake |
| 14:39.25 | CIA-7 | Optionally shake the screen when something directly affecting you is happening. defaulted to off. |
| 14:39.28 | LAG|Domo | I see |
| 14:39.34 | LAG|Domo | Thanks! I'll check it out. |
| 14:39.37 | LAG|Domo | Looks good. |
| 14:39.41 | Wobin | What's the M stand for? |
| 14:39.46 | LAG|Domo | Haha wow |
| 14:39.52 | LAG|Domo | Ammo did the Shake thing? |
| 14:40.07 | [Ammo] | yeah I needed a break and was experimenting with somet hings |
| 14:40.11 | [Ammo] | I first had a twirl thing |
| 14:40.18 | [Ammo] | that moved the worldframe in a circle :p |
| 14:40.26 | Wobin | ew |
| 14:40.29 | [Ammo] | but a random shake works better :) |
| 14:40.34 | Ellipsis | you guys are amused by the strangest things |
| 14:40.56 | LAG|Domo | I requested that on the EJ forum, but "fuckydude" (? >.>) said it would probably not be implemented |
| 14:41.06 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:41.34 | LAG|Domo | Glad to see it, I'm so switching back to BW now |
| 14:41.51 | nevcairiel | wonder what people need shake for |
| 14:42.00 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 14:42.03 | nevcairiel | i mean, flash is good, you really notice it |
| 14:42.04 | [Ammo] | to WAKE THE FUCK UP |
| 14:42.05 | nevcairiel | but shake? |
| 14:42.07 | LAG|Domo | It's great for tunnelvision situations |
| 14:42.09 | nevcairiel | would only confuse me :P |
| 14:42.10 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:42.17 | [Ammo] | I wanted to flip the worldframe |
| 14:42.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:42.22 | LAG|Domo | :p |
| 14:42.22 | [Ammo] | but there is no way to flip it |
| 14:42.27 | [Ammo] | flip back and forth 2 times |
| 14:42.30 | Kazie | Does Bartender3 Have bindings for StanceBar? |
| 14:42.49 | nevcairiel | Kazie: use the default stancebar bindings, aka Special Action Bar |
| 14:42.50 | Ellipsis | flip the world frame? |
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| 14:42.58 | Ellipsis | because that's not disorienting at all |
| 14:42.59 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 14:43.03 | Kazie | Ahh.. Stancebar is special action bar?: P hehe |
| 14:43.12 | [Ammo] | I love punishing stupid users |
| 14:43.26 | Ellipsis | stupid users = users enabling your module? |
| 14:43.26 | [Ammo] | or whiners at that |
| 14:43.55 | nevcairiel | stupid users = users that need to enable that module to notice certain events |
| 14:44.01 | haste | Wobin: pitbull is basically "too much" for anything D: |
| 14:44.36 | Wobin | LAG|Domo: That's FunkyDude |
| 14:44.38 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:44.56 | nevcairiel | or Funkeh` on irc |
| 14:45.02 | LAG|Domo | I wouldn't call it stupid people to be honest, there's just no such thing as too much warning for some events like Parasites |
| 14:45.07 | LAG|Domo | Yeah that's what I meant |
| 14:45.48 | Wobin | There should be custom audio for certain events |
| 14:45.49 | nevcairiel | some events should get whispers again |
| 14:45.56 | Wobin | like the AranChant =) |
| 14:46.11 | Wobin | http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 14:46.19 | LAG|Domo | I wouldn't want my bossmod to flip and twirl my screen whenever Morogrim Tidewalker farts, but for some rare events like Parasites at Illidan, Fixate at RoS, it's just nice to have a graphical warning next to the standard RaidWarning message |
| 14:46.27 | nevcairiel | if you need special events for aran, you fail by definition |
| 14:46.33 | Wobin | well yes |
| 14:46.36 | Wobin | but that chant would be cool |
| 14:46.41 | [Ammo] | blargh |
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| 14:46.50 | baer_ | moin. |
| 14:47.19 | [Ammo] | ohwell, it shakes now, the whiners at elitistjerks can rest again |
| 14:47.21 | nevcairiel | we just have one guy announce who has parasites on illidan on TS |
| 14:47.37 | nevcairiel | worked perfectly well for our first kill on sunday =) |
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| 14:49.20 | Wobin | I'm just impressed at the chorus =P |
| 14:50.09 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r54017 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc): |
| 14:50.09 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBars |
| 14:50.09 | CIA-7 | - add zhTW localization |
| 14:50.22 | LAG|Domo | btw, doesn't Omnibus save the notes you make? |
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| 14:56.52 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.43 | baer_ | is there an addon which help me make smooth camera motions with fraps? :) |
| 15:00.09 | baer_ | due to coffee abuse my smooth mouse movement really sucks. |
| 15:00.42 | si-m1 | drink a few beers |
| 15:00.46 | Nefarion | lol |
| 15:00.47 | si-m1 | that should help a bit |
| 15:00.55 | Nefarion | can addons even move the camera? |
| 15:01.03 | baer_ | already tried, that, si-m1. |
| 15:01.20 | baer_ | unluckily i'm drunk now, my lag grew and i need help with moving the mouse. :-p |
| 15:02.48 | aeon|capullo | search for CameraPlus |
| 15:03.05 | aeon|capullo | but i think its non-ace |
| 15:03.25 | baer_ | thanks, Aens|Superiority |
| 15:03.30 | baer_ | am, aeon|capullo |
| 15:03.35 | baer_ | damn beer. :-} |
| 15:03.52 | aeon|capullo | 4pm and drunken? |
| 15:04.07 | baer_ | its that damn autotab. |
| 15:05.29 | aeon|capullo | what kind of camera movements you want to make? |
| 15:05.43 | *** join/#wowace Crysli (i=Tasma@0x50a13573.bynxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:05.49 | Crysli | Hey |
| 15:05.52 | baer_ | basically i programmed movement. |
| 15:06.43 | Nefarion | preset panning and such? |
| 15:07.01 | baer_ | Nefarion: yup, basically that. |
| 15:07.47 | Pkekyo | g'morning all |
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| 15:10.13 | Crysli | Anyone know anything about DogTags? Cause I'm trying to check if the unit is a certain class. |
| 15:11.46 | Chompers | [SmartClass] |
| 15:11.52 | Chompers | or [SmartClass:ClassColor] |
| 15:12.05 | Chompers | if you want it coloured |
| 15:12.27 | Fisker- | hey Chompers |
| 15:12.31 | Chompers | oh hai |
| 15:12.31 | Crysli | Yeah, that returns the class. But I'm trying to check if the unit is, for example, a Druid. |
| 15:12.33 | Fisker- | Wanna destroy all humans? |
| 15:12.41 | Chompers | yes |
| 15:12.50 | Chompers | will we use fire? |
| 15:12.54 | Crysli | :o Fire |
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| 15:12.59 | Fisker- | perhaps |
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| 15:14.56 | Crysli | Chompers: Do you think [Class:IsEqual(Druid)] work? |
| 15:15.22 | Crysli | would work, even |
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| 15:30.06 | sb | [Ammo]: mh - bw shake is also very nice :) |
| 15:30.48 | [Ammo] | no it's not |
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| 15:31.32 | sb | no? |
| 15:31.32 | sb | why? |
| 15:31.46 | [Ammo] | because it's only used by retards who can't plauy |
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| 15:32.00 | [Ammo] | I should have called the option: WAKE THE RETARD |
| 15:32.34 | kenlyric | all of bigwigs should be called "can't tell time" then. |
| 15:32.54 | kenlyric | beyond that it's all just degrees of notification. |
| 15:33.17 | [Ammo] | well if you can't read a notification on screen: YOU have the bomb! then you're pretty damn blind |
| 15:34.14 | kenlyric | all degrees of notification. |
| 15:34.34 | alext | the one fight where a screen-wide alert is somewhat useful is solarian...especially if its your first few times |
| 15:34.51 | [Ammo] | I agree, and the shake one is the worst degree notification to get through to some numbskulls |
| 15:34.52 | alext | and if your a healer |
| 15:34.57 | alext | yah i dont like shake |
| 15:35.03 | kenlyric | as a healer, I find screen-wide alerts helpful in all sorts of situations. |
| 15:35.08 | alext | SolarianAlarm just turns your entire screen a shade of blue when u get wrath of the astromancer |
| 15:35.12 | alext | which is fine |
| 15:35.24 | alext | i cant deal with shake and flashing crap tho |
| 15:35.27 | alext | distracting |
| 15:35.48 | sb | [Ammo]: no problem with that - but you can react much faster on some visual effect (like flash / shake) - if you know HOW to react in some specific encounter (e.g. flash when fighting winterchill -> move because of D&D) |
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| 15:37.53 | sb | same with kaelthas thaladred if you are lock-healer, you have to watch debuffs and actions - so its nice to have an "hey, here is something really important!!" wake-up call |
| 15:38.41 | kenlyric | I like grid's soothing "aggro" |
| 15:38.56 | sb | kenlyric: aggro could be everything - conflag, remote toy, ... |
| 15:39.28 | kenlyric | just saying a I prefer that soothing voice to massive screen shake... it should be expanded :) |
| 15:39.38 | kenlyric | "stop moving, douchbag" for flame wreath, for instance. |
| 15:39.45 | sb | hehe |
| 15:39.47 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54018 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (14 files in 9 dirs): |
| 15:39.47 | CIA-7 | Threat-1.0: |
| 15:39.47 | CIA-7 | - update zhCN local for NPC Modules |
| 15:39.58 | kenlyric | because when I say it on vent, I'm not soothing. |
| 15:41.04 | Ellipsis | so a soft sexy female voice saying "stand still, idiot" |
| 15:41.17 | Ellipsis | is much better? |
| 15:41.28 | [Ammo] | move and you get a gkick |
| 15:41.43 | durcyn | Ellipsis: post your, uh, voice. |
| 15:42.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:41] <Ellipsis> so a soft sexy female voice saying "stand still, idiot" <--well can you do that? you could make a bigwigs module. |
| 15:42.12 | Ellipsis | my "uh" voice? |
| 15:42.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, i never talked to you. |
| 15:42.31 | durcyn | voice, as opposed to other things more often included in that phrase, yes. |
| 15:42.33 | durcyn | nevermind. |
| 15:43.02 | Ellipsis | soft and sexy isn't usually my thing, but I can give it a try |
| 15:43.19 | nevcairiel | you are more the harsh and annoying type then? |
| 15:44.04 | Ellipsis | yeah, pretty sure that's how people would describe me |
| 15:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:43] <Ellipsis> soft and sexy isn't usually my thing <--aww |
| 15:44.52 | Ellipsis | not saying I can't do it, just that it doesn't come naturally :P |
| 15:45.56 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 15:46.12 | Ellipsis | and yuo guys aren't allowed to be mean to me today |
| 15:46.16 | Ellipsis | 'cause it's my birthday |
| 15:47.08 | nevcairiel | happy birthday |
| 15:47.08 | durcyn | happy... 14th? |
| 15:47.19 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 15:47.36 | nevcairiel | iirc, 19th |
| 15:47.43 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 15:47.46 | Ellipsis | stalker. |
| 15:47.58 | Tornhoof | i'm feeling old |
| 15:48.22 | durcyn | oh, good, she's legal at least. |
| 15:48.30 | Tornhoof | haha |
| 15:48.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:48.52 | Ellipsis | I've been legal for years...just depends where ;) |
| 15:49.08 | kadrahil | durcyn: lol |
| 15:50.09 | kadrahil | now it's wowace age comparison time |
| 15:50.15 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 15:50.29 | kadrahil | JoshBorke is alliance, so automatically 12 |
| 15:50.37 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 15:50.41 | JoshBorke | i'm 23 spank you very much |
| 15:50.44 | [Ammo] | woot I'm 12! |
| 15:50.51 | nevcairiel | yay i am 12 too |
| 15:50.53 | JoshBorke | admittedly i'm as mature as a 4 year old |
| 15:50.58 | nevcairiel | no obligations, endless time to code |
| 15:50.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:51.02 | [Ammo] | yarr! |
| 15:51.14 | Kuja^ | haha then im 12 too, lovely |
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| 15:51.15 | [Ammo] | though my wife is in trouble now, I doubt our marriage is legal |
| 15:51.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:51.29 | Ellipsis | wait, I'm 12? |
| 15:51.33 | Funkeh` | I'm 5 |
| 15:51.37 | Funkeh` | l2p |
| 15:52.14 | kenlyric | if I touch myself does that make me a pedo? |
| 15:52.18 | Funkeh` | college over |
| 15:52.20 | Funkeh` | catch you later |
| 15:52.33 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54019 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: |
| 15:52.34 | CIA-7 | TouristLib: |
| 15:52.34 | CIA-7 | update zhCN local |
| 15:52.35 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: only if you like it |
| 15:52.39 | Ellipsis | if you don't, it's statutory rape |
| 15:52.46 | kenlyric | somebody I blocked in August just got a new computer. |
| 15:52.50 | kenlyric | in november. |
| 15:52.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:46] <Ellipsis> 'cause it's my birthday <--orly |
| 15:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm sorry |
| 15:53.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you're one year closer to death now |
| 15:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 15:53.18 | Ellipsis | thank you sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:53.20 | kenlyric | she waited 4 months and bought a new computer rather than just re-installing windows. |
| 15:53.24 | Ellipsis | always there to help me see the bright side |
| 15:53.27 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.52 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: wait, what does this have to do with blocking her? |
| 15:54.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: look i'm just being realistic, either we have a technological singularity in the next 25 years, or we're going to die at some point. |
| 15:54.19 | kenlyric | we blocked her because she was owned. |
| 15:54.25 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: did you think my comment was sarcastic? |
| 15:54.35 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 15:54.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
| 15:54.38 | sag_ich_nicht | emo. |
| 15:54.41 | Ellipsis | inorite |
| 15:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 15:55.05 | sag_ich_nicht | you see this wrong |
| 15:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | you shouldn't want to die to get rid of the idiotism of this world |
| 15:55.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you should want to get rid of everyone that's causing it |
| 15:55.50 | Ellipsis | I thought I was just supposed to have lots and lots of babies to counteract it |
| 15:56.19 | kenlyric | there's a joke in there, but it may be too easy. |
| 15:56.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: that is a lie. |
| 15:57.04 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: no but I am |
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| 15:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | the babies might be idiots, too. |
| 15:57.08 | Ellipsis | see what I did there? |
| 15:57.14 | kenlyric | clever |
| 15:57.20 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht - that's why I have them with you, duh |
| 15:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | doh |
| 15:57.39 | nevcairiel | so they will be idiots AND trolls? |
| 15:57.41 | nevcairiel | omg |
| 15:57.49 | Health | :D |
| 15:58.06 | kadrahil | man, work stole me away from irc as soon as i started that conversation :( |
| 15:58.11 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
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| 15:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel under my pretended idiotism, there is a really smart guy. i'm just smart enough to pretend i'm an idiot, so i get help faster. |
| 15:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | it just depends on how much of an idiot you pretend to be |
| 15:58.38 | sag_ich_nicht | too much, and you piss people off |
| 15:58.44 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: you are only contributing the troll part |
| 15:58.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 15:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 15:58.51 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: but you piss people off either way? |
| 15:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i know |
| 15:59.04 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54020 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 15:59.04 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:59.04 | CIA-7 | -Boss: update zhCN local for boss |
| 15:59.07 | sag_ich_nicht | just depends on WHO gets pissed off |
| 15:59.14 | Ellipsis | some part of this logic is flawed |
| 15:59.19 | Ellipsis | but I'm too sleep-deprived to see it |
| 15:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | trolling for information works better than normal asking in here |
| 15:59.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and you know that's true |
| 15:59.51 | kadrahil | you scared kalroth off |
| 15:59.52 | nevcairiel | meh, you really cant get any information of this channel, no matter how you try |
| 15:59.53 | Ellipsis | haven't you heard the joke about how to get linux help? |
| 16:00.05 | nevcairiel | i always start digging in the code |
| 16:00.11 | Ellipsis | if you join a linux channel on IRC and ask a question, you just get "RTFM" |
| 16:00.28 | nevcairiel | thats the right course of action for linux, tbh |
| 16:00.30 | kadrahil | s/linux// |
| 16:00.33 | nevcairiel | l2man |
| 16:00.33 | Ellipsis | if you join a linux channel on IRC and tell them "windows makes it so much easier to do ____" you get 4 experts telling you the easiest way to do what you want |
| 16:00.47 | kadrahil | no, you get 4 experts telling you to GTFO |
| 16:01.05 | kadrahil | :| |
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| 16:01.48 | Amadeo | mmm |
| 16:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: i've done so multiple times, step 1: flame ckknight about the fact that you can't do "x", while you know that x is doable, but don't know how 2. get flamed by ckknight that he's not responsible for that 3. someone goes "i've already done that using xyz" |
| 16:02.44 | kadrahil | hahaha |
| 16:02.45 | nevcairiel | see, i just skip all the flaming part, look for 5 minutes at the addon in question, and get what i want too |
| 16:02.49 | sag_ich_nicht | this is even true, if ckknight didn't have to do ANYTHING with that addon. |
| 16:03.17 | kadrahil | sag_ich_nicht: but, ckknight has something to do with every addon on the face of the earth! |
| 16:03.19 | Health | What's up, is he still around? |
| 16:03.43 | kadrahil | ~seen ckknight |
| 16:04.10 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 8h 51m 1s ago, saying: 'sounds good to me'. |
| 16:04.10 | kadrahil | !seen ckknight |
| 16:04.10 | kenlyric | linux man pages are like a hive a scum and villainy. without the useful information or transportation. |
| 16:04.10 | kadrahil | 12:04 <Diao> ckknight!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com was last |
| 16:04.10 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.11 | kadrahil | Diao: nice seen bot |
| 16:04.17 | kadrahil | purl: FAIL |
| 16:04.18 | purl | ACTION gives kadrahil the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 16:04.37 | nevcairiel | haha self failed |
| 16:04.50 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: my problems are more complex normally otherwise i've found the solution already by myself, e.g. i STILL don't have a version of GEM that works properly with tastethenaimbow |
| 16:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | oh oh oh |
| 16:05.08 | nevcairiel | wtf is tastethenaimbow? |
| 16:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 16:05.14 | Fisker- | oh lawd |
| 16:05.16 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 5/8/48 vs 5/0/56; Wraithhammer wins by 307 TBRs! |
| 16:05.17 | Fisker- | is that sum money? |
| 16:05.18 | kenlyric | painbow? |
| 16:05.20 | nevcairiel | and btw, get a forum or web based event manager |
| 16:05.27 | nevcairiel | works soo much better |
| 16:05.47 | sag_ich_nicht | tastethenaimbow colors names in the chat by name using HSV colors |
| 16:05.51 | kenlyric | my horde guild went to something else besides GEM when we got a new website. |
| 16:05.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i like it better than class coloring |
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| 16:06.23 | Amadeo | I use crayons |
| 16:06.39 | sb | sag_ich_nicht: screenshot!~ |
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| 16:07.46 | Nefarion | no documentation for CloseUp? |
| 16:07.51 | sag_ich_nicht | sb: huh? hold |
| 16:08.52 | sb | nvm, already got it |
| 16:09.15 | Amadeo | Nefarion: Isn't that a toothpaste for smokers? |
| 16:09.38 | Nefarion | ...it's an addon at wowace |
| 16:09.47 | sag_ich_nicht | sb: http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_080907_173223.png |
| 16:10.05 | Mooz1 | loliserv? |
| 16:10.11 | Mooz1 | i thought that was porn, way to disappoint me |
| 16:10.27 | Amadeo | Nefarion: and a toothpaste! |
| 16:10.31 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 16:10.36 | Nefarion | awesome |
| 16:10.55 | Amadeo | hai Ellipsis |
| 16:10.56 | Obelix | do any of you guys use fire prot pots in p2 illidan? |
| 16:11.49 | nevcairiel | not in p2 |
| 16:12.01 | nevcairiel | p4 we use some |
| 16:12.27 | Amadeo | Someone take me to kill Illidan |
| 16:13.07 | durcyn | Amadeo: 25,000g ok |
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| 16:13.40 | Amadeo | How about I just give you the greens and blues that you will be replacing!? |
| 16:14.30 | Drool | Lukian: pong |
| 16:14.54 | Lukian | hello Drool ! |
| 16:15.04 | Drool | yo :) |
| 16:15.17 | Lukian | I have two screenshots with nauticus data completely the opposite to the current boats positions |
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| 16:16.09 | Drool | how old is the data, any idea? |
| 16:16.57 | Drool | i had a similar thing after last server maintenance. they prolly resync'd their clocks |
| 16:17.50 | Lukian | hmm hard to say, is there some data I can dump if I see it happen again? |
| 16:17.57 | Drool | either that, or your own system clock messed up the data |
| 16:18.03 | Drool | sec |
| 16:18.09 | kenlyric | I will disenchant for you everything I don't take! |
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| 16:22.17 | sylvanaar_work | its not patch day or anything is it? |
| 16:22.32 | Jops | No |
| 16:22.38 | silentium | 2.3 isnt this week |
| 16:22.41 | sylvanaar_work | thats good |
| 16:23.25 | Fisker- | yay we can be MILLIONAIRES |
| 16:23.26 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 16:23.55 | Amadeo | Fisker-: When you are a millionaire, buy me a new PC |
| 16:24.02 | Fisker- | nah |
| 16:24.08 | Fisker- | not me anyways but my parents :P |
| 16:24.17 | Amadeo | Then tell them to! |
| 16:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:10] <Mooz1> i thought that was porn, way to disappoint me <--and another pedophile runs into my trap |
| 16:25.06 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself |
| 16:25.11 | Mooz1 | kill myself? |
| 16:25.15 | Mooz1 | :< |
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| 16:25.50 | Lukian | vhaarr, I remembered which addon! DeuceLog |
| 16:27.23 | vhaarr | Lukian: hehe |
| 16:27.30 | vhaarr | Lukian: haven't done anything with that one in some time |
| 16:27.34 | Lukian | vhaarr, it doesn't log my kills, just theirs |
| 16:27.36 | Lukian | :( |
| 16:27.54 | Lukian | so it's like permanently 0-* |
| 16:30.00 | Lukian | If you are actually gonna fix it, and option to ignore battleground kills would be awesome, I really just want it for world pvp :) |
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| 16:33.29 | Lukian | Parser-3.0 and LibParser-4.0 seem to be in my addons folder |
| 16:33.38 | Lukian | if that helps in anyway, vhaarr |
| 16:33.49 | Lukian | oh and ParserLib, lol |
| 16:35.17 | vhaarr | hm maybe I'll fix it |
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| 16:36.30 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r54021 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: koKR update |
| 16:38.20 | sb | mhh |
| 16:38.33 | sb | need healing suggestions for najentus :o |
| 16:39.46 | Lukian | actually vhaarr, may I make some further suggestions? |
| 16:40.12 | vhaarr | you may, but I will most likely not listen |
| 16:40.21 | Lukian | We were looking for an addon the other day that announces to party when you target (or mouseover?) someone on the opposite faction |
| 16:40.29 | Lukian | does anything currently do this? |
| 16:40.49 | vhaarr | that would be a 10 line addon |
| 16:40.51 | Obelix | kind of like gladiator? |
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| 16:41.43 | Lukian | Also is it much to ask to record their class and level at the time you last saw (ie. killed or were killed by) them? (for when you are searching) |
| 16:42.54 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 16:43.19 | Chompers | did you watch Heroes today? |
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| 16:45.06 | Silviu- | ~seen toadkiller |
| 16:45.08 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 8h 13m 3s ago, saying: 'Fin: have you set profile to character or class then reset profile, reset bars & relog. That should clear out whatever is going wrong. You should also get the latest version...'. |
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| 16:46.46 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash kartokil |
| 16:46.49 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Kartokil, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 7899 HP; 10986 Mana; 329 mana regen; 221 mp5; 11059 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 155 +spell dmg; 1838 +heal; 4.11% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 897 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29omqm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uvvud ][ Updated: Tue Nov 6 07:51:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:47.41 | Silviu- | !vs eu gorgonnash Littleone eu gorgonnash Kartokil |
| 16:47.44 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone vs Kartokil! A L70 warlock and a L70 shaman square off!; 0/21/40 vs 0/5/56; Littleone wins by 186 TBRs! |
| 16:47.57 | Karto | -_- |
| 16:48.04 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 16:49.26 | Mooz1 | !char US Kel'Thuzad Xazz |
| 16:49.28 | ThraeBot | Mooz1: Xazz, Level 41 Human Warrior (0/31/1). 1851 HP; 455 AP; 60.000 Melee DPS; 12.84% melee crit; 6.41% dodge; 5.04% block;[[ TBR: 263 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cfykn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37oopm ][ Updated: Tue Nov 6 07:54:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:50.22 | Mooz1 | tbr? |
| 16:50.37 | Silviu- | ~tbr |
| 16:50.38 | purl | [tbr] ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
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| 16:56.20 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r54022 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 16:56.20 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:56.20 | CIA-7 | -Tradeskill: bugfix zhCN localization |
| 16:56.39 | Fisker- | oh yeah Chompers |
| 16:56.40 | Fisker- | why? |
| 16:56.57 | Fisker- | I'm adam was fucking win btw |
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| 16:58.32 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r54023 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:58.33 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:58.33 | CIA-7 | -Herbs & Inventory: update zhCN local |
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| 17:01.10 | Amadeo | hai Kaelten |
| 17:01.18 | Kaelten | yo |
| 17:01.20 | Kaelten | how goes it? |
| 17:01.30 | Amadeo | not bad, how are you? |
| 17:03.18 | CIA-7 | 03cryect * r54024 10Recount/Sync.lua: |
| 17:03.18 | CIA-7 | Recount: |
| 17:03.18 | CIA-7 | - Changed syncing to no longer send your events unless its considered a "special" event. This should greatly reduce used bandwidth. (Drycoded but should work fine let me know if it doesn't) |
| 17:04.25 | Fisker- | so Chompers |
| 17:09.02 | Wogroipl | Cryect, any idea why people show up twice or 3 times in recount? |
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| 17:14.39 | Cryect | Wogroipl, uh no? |
| 17:14.55 | Cryect | Wogroipl, that doesn't even make sense how they could sense they are indexed by their names |
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| 17:15.06 | Cryect | since* |
| 17:15.07 | Cryect | >_> |
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| 17:15.30 | piggles | i've noticed the same thing (i have a screenshot of a hunter showing up 5 times) |
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| 17:16.00 | Cryect | I've never seen that and kinda hard to test especially since don't have a subscribed wow account at the moment :-p |
| 17:16.37 | sb | Cryect: account reactivated? :p |
| 17:17.45 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54025 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: tweak |
| 17:17.45 | Cryect | sb: no, its drycoded :p was a small change I made that just commented out some code and pasted a part of it outside the comment |
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| 17:19.24 | piggles | if ur interested i can post the screenshot (with the config window open) of the bug |
| 17:19.27 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54026 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: bugfix error message and tweak |
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| 17:20.34 | Cryect | screenshot wouldn't help but uh sure maybe something will be in it that makes it obvious |
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| 17:21.30 | piggles | http://www.warpig.co.uk/images/uploads/WoWScrnShot_100507_023825.jpg |
| 17:21.43 | piggles | i was to lazy to shrink it |
| 17:22.17 | Cryect | Haha thats uh interesting |
| 17:22.29 | Cryect | could you scroll and the names still be there? |
| 17:22.36 | piggles | yup |
| 17:23.14 | Cryect | If you change to another data type and came back were the names still there? |
| 17:23.24 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54027 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: add a spacer in the menu |
| 17:23.33 | piggles | can't remember |
| 17:24.09 | Cryect | if you see it again check that out and let me know |
| 17:24.14 | piggles | i think they would go away, but they would come back at some point i think |
| 17:24.24 | Cryect | k |
| 17:24.34 | Cryect | that would be from the cache will check that out then |
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| 17:30.40 | Chompers | i agree Fisker- |
| 17:30.49 | Chompers | (very delayed reply there) |
| 17:32.58 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 17:34.23 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r54028 10BigWigs/Extras/Flash.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Flash: Tweak test description |
| 17:34.39 | Pkekyo | I agree too |
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| 17:43.49 | Adys | are there addons to let you show all quests you got at the same time? |
| 17:43.59 | Adys | or like, all objectives or something |
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| 17:45.56 | ulic | maybe nQuestLog or QuestFu would work for you, there are lots of quest addons |
| 17:47.19 | Adys | hm |
| 17:47.31 | Adys | any of those that can keep permanent track of objectives? |
| 17:47.38 | Adys | ie, of all quests, and stays upon logout |
| 17:47.58 | ulic | you mean even quests you've completed? or just ones you are currently on? |
| 17:48.05 | Adys | nah current ones only |
| 17:48.22 | ulic | yea, both those two I mentioned do as well as others |
| 17:48.31 | Adys | ok checking it out then |
| 17:48.57 | ulic | I prefer QuestFu, but I haven't looked at nQuestLog in a while or any others really. |
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| 17:51.36 | Pkekyo | huh....netsplit, anyone? |
| 17:52.12 | ulic | no thanks just had one :) |
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| 17:57.44 | sb | hm Funkeh` - could you make that backdrop color configurable? |
| 17:58.51 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
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| 17:59.54 | Pkekyo | would dropping (243 skill) tailoring on my mage and leveling jewelcrafting instead be benefitial? |
| 18:00.02 | Pkekyo | or should I stick with tailoring? |
| 18:00.05 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, JC is a true pain to level |
| 18:00.39 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: even if I mine the mats in advance? (got several chars with mining) |
| 18:01.07 | Funkeh` | sb, suppose |
| 18:01.19 | Pkekyo | well, I'll be leveling JC eventually, so the question is, should I drop tailioring on my mage or level another char to have JC on? |
| 18:01.20 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, you kinda can't *mine* all the gems, u'll have to prospect them, and thats reliant on luck |
| 18:01.28 | Fisker- | Chompers you gonna get attacked |
| 18:02.21 | Pkekyo | well, you've got to get the ores from somewhere, no? |
| 18:02.33 | ulic | yep, AH em or mine em |
| 18:02.46 | Kazie | How do you move the pvp objectives?? |
| 18:02.52 | Kazie | Which addon or how by standard? |
| 18:03.14 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, you'll need about 200 x 5 thorium if ur luck is like mine |
| 18:03.24 | cncfanatics | I had about 20 thorium powder when I was 300 JC |
| 18:03.31 | cncfanatics | 200* |
| 18:03.57 | Pkekyo | well that's disturbing...at best |
| 18:04.06 | ulic | I'd probably stick with tayloring, seems better for a clothie. |
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| 18:04.41 | Adys | ulic: questfu did that perfectly thanks :) |
| 18:04.43 | Pkekyo | hmm, seems I'll have to level my lock or shammy then |
| 18:05.00 | Xinhuan | i suggest getting tailoring if you think you won't ever see BT/Hyjal |
| 18:05.04 | Xinhuan | otherwise get JC |
| 18:05.16 | ulic | Honestly the best way to level JC is just to buy the mats up until the high 200's, unless you like to waste alot of time, after that it's running Winterspring or something with alot of thorium. And then you mostly cut gems and make just a few items post 300 |
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| 18:05.25 | Pkekyo | 280 ---> 300 enchanting is a fucking PAIN |
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| 18:05.52 | Xinhuan | also depends on whether you want to make money with professions or not |
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| 18:06.22 | ulic | yea, JC is pretty good for making money, especially if you take the time to mine your own ore. |
| 18:06.55 | Pkekyo | buying mats is pretty much out of the question for me, blacksmithing is useless for making money, and an endless moneysink |
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| 18:07.26 | Xinhuan | i just buy 20 stacks of admantite ore everyday, prospect them, cut the gems, sell them on AH and that makes 500g a day |
| 18:07.26 | Xinhuan | i have some 40k gold atm |
| 18:07.27 | dylanm | Pkekyo: Selling epic weaps not really working out? |
| 18:07.31 | Aeyan | Those top end tailoring sets are hard to beat |
| 18:07.33 | Pkekyo | I have some...45 gold spread across all chars |
| 18:07.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan freak. |
| 18:07.39 | Pkekyo | dylanm: not really |
| 18:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i should level my rogue |
| 18:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | he's a JC |
| 18:07.53 | Xinhuan | selling epic weapons ONLY work if you're willing to farm the heroic badges/primal |
| 18:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:07.58 | Xinhuan | for the nether |
| 18:08.06 | Pkekyo | I know, I've painfully experienced it |
| 18:08.12 | Pkekyo | but the plans cost fucking billions |
| 18:08.19 | Xinhuan | there's a BS on my server, he made thousands |
| 18:08.30 | Xinhuan | but he first spent thousands on the epic recipes first |
| 18:08.33 | Xinhuan | then goes on a heap of heroics |
| 18:08.38 | Xinhuan | now he earns it back |
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| 18:08.50 | Pkekyo | I've made 300g on the weapon plan I have... got it 3-4 months ago |
| 18:09.15 | Xinhuan | i estimate i've earned about 90k gold since february |
| 18:09.28 | Ellipsis | share the wealth Xinhuan |
| 18:09.38 | YourMomsHero | damn... just from JC? |
| 18:09.39 | Xinhuan | i just told you the secret |
| 18:09.47 | Pkekyo | damn you Xinhuan :< |
| 18:10.02 | Ellipsis | but I can't drop my professions :( |
| 18:10.06 | Xinhuan | i have every gem cut and every enchant recipe in the game |
| 18:10.22 | Xinhuan | people from major guilds hook me up for enchants/gems everyday lol |
| 18:11.19 | Xinhuan | current market rate is 3g per rare gem cut, 10g per epic gem cut |
| 18:11.28 | Xinhuan | and enchants typically go for 3-5g tips |
| 18:11.38 | Pkekyo | geif 365 JC |
| 18:11.50 | Xinhuan | i also have some 52 nethers to sell surefooted :) |
| 18:11.55 | Ellipsis | gief enchant patterns that aren't freaking useless |
| 18:12.09 | Xinhuan | you have to farm them heh |
| 18:12.13 | Xinhuan | the good ones all drop from instances |
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| 18:12.21 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 18:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 18:12.25 | sag_ich_nicht | just get auctioneer |
| 18:12.28 | Xinhuan | like 35 agi, 12 agi boots, savagery |
| 18:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | collect a decent database |
| 18:12.32 | Pkekyo | geif blacksmith plans for stuff people_actually_want |
| 18:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and then just go to the AH |
| 18:12.44 | sag_ich_nicht | scan it once |
| 18:12.52 | sag_ich_nicht | activate bottomscanner |
| 18:12.55 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I don't do well with the whole reselling thing |
| 18:12.57 | sag_ich_nicht | scan it again and buy everything that makes a profit when disenchanted |
| 18:12.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | not normal resale |
| 18:13.10 | sag_ich_nicht | auctioneer has enchantrix, okay? |
| 18:13.17 | sag_ich_nicht | it tells you what X will disenchant into |
| 18:13.18 | Ellipsis | I already run a bottomscanner equivalent |
| 18:13.27 | Ellipsis | for anything that vendors/DEs at a higher value |
| 18:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | then how the hell are you not making money |
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| 18:13.41 | Xinhuan | don't trust it Ellipsis |
| 18:13.48 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 18:13.50 | Xinhuan | i earned heaps on people using Bottomscanner |
| 18:14.03 | Ellipsis | I trust ItemPrice and my own DE results code, thanks |
| 18:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | bottomscanner > whateverthehellyouuse |
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| 18:14.10 | Xinhuan | initially "green quality gems" vendor for 1g |
| 18:14.13 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: take that back, I wrote it |
| 18:14.16 | Xinhuan | blizzard changed that to 25s |
| 18:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the old bottomscanner was decievable |
| 18:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: no |
| 18:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't |
| 18:14.26 | Xinhuan | on half of them |
| 18:14.30 | Xinhuan | and forgot the other half |
| 18:14.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan that has loooooooong been fixed |
| 18:14.38 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 18:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | it was a database problem |
| 18:14.43 | Xinhuan | but i earned heaps while it wasn't |
| 18:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | their own fault if they don't doublecheck |
| 18:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i sure do |
| 18:15.15 | Xinhuan | i would be very very amused and put gems up at 99s on the AH, and they would buy to vendor at "1g" |
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| 18:15.25 | Xinhuan | and they dont' ever realize it vendors 25s |
| 18:15.42 | Xinhuan | some of these ppl even buy them as i put them up |
| 18:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | retards |
| 18:16.01 | Xinhuan | then, there were also a about half of the green gems |
| 18:16.01 | Ellipsis | so um |
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| 18:16.06 | Ellipsis | how is bottomscanner good? |
| 18:16.07 | Xinhuan | where the UNCUT version vendors 25s |
| 18:16.12 | Xinhuan | and the CUT version vendors 1g |
| 18:16.22 | Xinhuan | so i buy them all up, cut them, vendor for major profit |
| 18:16.32 | Xinhuan | that wasn't fixed until like 2.1.4 |
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| 18:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: how about you look at the code |
| 18:17.16 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: we've already established that bottomscanner was vulnerable to these mistakes |
| 18:17.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: what Xinhuan is talking about are vendoring prices in the database |
| 18:17.34 | Ellipsis | yes I know |
| 18:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you don't have to enable the vendor option |
| 18:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i wasn't even talking about that |
| 18:17.47 | Ellipsis | I use ItemPrice for my vendor price checks |
| 18:17.56 | Xinhuan | ya, well you also need to take into account prices of mutable items |
| 18:17.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and the database is pretty robust against price manipulation |
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| 18:18.02 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: not sure what you think is gonna be wrong in my code |
| 18:18.14 | Xinhuan | for eg, you can make a little bit of money by buying motes and selling primals |
| 18:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 18:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 18:18.36 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, I do take that into account for the lesser/greater enchanting essences, |
| 18:18.41 | Xinhuan | or buy small prismatics, and sell large prismatics (after conversion) |
| 18:18.53 | Ellipsis | motes and primals are already handled separately because I have set price limits |
| 18:19.00 | Xinhuan | a very very very good way to make money as a alchemist is to buy the raw mats for Earthstorm Diamond |
| 18:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: I doubt it has an extensive market analysis for the median prices of all enchanting mats for your server |
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| 18:19.03 | Xinhuan | and transmute it |
| 18:19.11 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: it doesn't need to |
| 18:19.15 | Xinhuan | then ask a JC to cut the earthstorm diamond into Powerful |
| 18:19.17 | Xinhuan | then sell it |
| 18:19.21 | Xinhuan | gauranteed 40g profit daily |
| 18:19.23 | Ellipsis | I set values for each enchanting mat |
| 18:19.36 | Ellipsis | those are what I consider a "good deal" if I was buying the mats at the AH |
| 18:19.41 | Ellipsis | then I sell enchants for profit |
| 18:19.47 | Xinhuan | on my server the raw mats are about 50g, the powerful earthstorm sells 100g |
| 18:19.56 | Xinhuan | so if you pay 10g for a JC to cut the meta as a fee |
| 18:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: then you are just doing it wrong if you don't make a metric fuckton of profit |
| 18:20.03 | Xinhuan | you earn 40g daily, since you can only xmute one a day |
| 18:20.13 | Mudkips | ermm |
| 18:20.16 | Pkekyo | Powerful earthstorm diamonds sell for JACK SHIT on my server :< |
| 18:20.26 | Xinhuan | lol, it sells real well on my server |
| 18:20.29 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I can't get anyone to buy the enchants, mostly |
| 18:20.34 | Ellipsis | because I don't have any useful recipes |
| 18:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | don't sell the enchants, fool |
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| 18:20.41 | Ellipsis | and there are many other enchanters around |
| 18:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | sell the enchanting mats in the AH |
| 18:20.46 | Ellipsis | I sell the mats when I need cash |
| 18:21.01 | Ellipsis | it makes me like 2-5g per large pris |
| 18:21.03 | sag_ich_nicht | look you just buy cheap greens, dis them, sell the mats. |
| 18:21.07 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 18:21.08 | Xinhuan | well i'm saying there's a lot of ways to make money |
| 18:21.10 | Ellipsis | I do that when I can |
| 18:21.10 | Mudkips | I have about over 15 stacks of arcane dust on my AH alt :( |
| 18:21.13 | Ellipsis | my server is too large |
| 18:21.26 | Pkekyo | needed gold, popped one on AH for 24hrs, 15g below asking price of others...meh! |
| 18:21.30 | Ellipsis | it makes it difficult to get in before other people snatch up the cheap greens or undercut my shards |
| 18:21.40 | Xinhuan | if you have an epic flying mount, and cartograher_routes, you can mine about 100g worth of adamantite ore per hour - however, if you prospect this ore and sell the gems, you get 150g per hour instead |
| 18:21.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i do that every day for ~40 minutes. half the server enchanting economy is mine, and i play on a release server |
| 18:21.52 | Mudkips | with enchanting mats |
| 18:21.56 | Mudkips | hmm |
| 18:22.09 | Ellipsis | I'm still saving for my epic flyer, and my other profession is tailoring which I can't drop because I wear FSW + spellstrike |
| 18:22.17 | Rayden | is it normal for auctioneer to tell me some really stupid stuff when i first start using it? |
| 18:22.17 | Mudkips | I always set it on the shortest time right before busy hour |
| 18:22.28 | Ellipsis | Rayden: it's always normal. |
| 18:22.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Rayden: like? also that would better be asked in #norganna |
| 18:22.37 | Rayden | like telling me i can make 200g off this 1g item |
| 18:22.53 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. don't use it instantly |
| 18:23.03 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: you do realize there's no fees on enchanting mats, yes? |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | scan every day at different times for a month or so |
| 18:23.17 | Mudkips | yeah I'm on a different subject now |
| 18:23.18 | Ellipsis | if you want to relist, just cancel the auction and relist :/ |
| 18:23.29 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise the database is unreliable, Rayden |
| 18:23.33 | Rayden | i've heard to scan it once a day for a week |
| 18:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | that's bullshit |
| 18:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | scan it multiple times a day for a month |
| 18:23.48 | Rayden | i figure i'll scan it as often as i can for a week or two and then be conservative |
| 18:23.50 | Xinhuan | if you want to make large profits, relying on bottomscanner isn't very useful - you need to observe market trends instead |
| 18:23.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:24.05 | Xinhuan | for eg, the Solid Star of elune market on my server |
| 18:24.13 | Mudkips | like low prices on the weekend when everyone dumps their stuff |
| 18:24.37 | Mudkips | or hoarding those ragveils now >:) |
| 18:24.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: i know, but i don't have any useful crafting professions and don't like high risk investing. |
| 18:24.44 | Mudkips | they're gonna get expensive come 2.3 |
| 18:24.58 | Xinhuan | in feb - 40g, march 45g, may 50g, june 65g, july 70g, august 75g, sept 60g, oct 50g, nov 40g (now) |
| 18:25.13 | Xinhuan | notice that the peak of the price was in June/July/August |
| 18:25.23 | Xinhuan | which coincided with the release of season 2 gear |
| 18:25.33 | Xinhuan | i made 20k gold in TWO days |
| 18:25.35 | [SW]Dodge | anyone know if and how i can set "name"&"class" both to "outside, below-right" with pitbull. it should look like http://tinyurl.com/2qboph :) |
| 18:25.47 | Xinhuan | by prospecting all the ore i can get my hands on in the 2 weeks before season 2 was released |
| 18:25.49 | Xinhuan | keeping all the gems |
| 18:25.55 | Xinhuan | then releasing it all on patch day |
| 18:26.01 | Xinhuan | 20k gold worth of sales |
| 18:26.04 | Ellipsis | [SW]Dodge: did you try the obvious? :P |
| 18:26.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan that's great |
| 18:26.19 | sag_ich_nicht | transfer to my server and pay my epic mount. |
| 18:26.32 | Rayden | nice Xinhuan |
| 18:26.33 | Xinhuan | earning gold is a lot to do with observing market trends, reading patch notes and stuff |
| 18:26.43 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: if i set the second to this position they just switch ;) (if you mean that :P) |
| 18:26.47 | Xinhuan | bottomscanner doesn't do much |
| 18:27.01 | Xinhuan | and usually gives wrong data over time since prices change over time |
| 18:27.02 | sag_ich_nicht | as i said |
| 18:27.03 | Ellipsis | hm, I thought they would reposition around each other like the icons do |
| 18:27.05 | Rayden | bottomscanner seems like it's useful for taking advantage of bad auctions |
| 18:27.12 | Rayden | nothing beyond that |
| 18:27.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no crafting proffession that's useful atm |
| 18:27.15 | Ellipsis | that person may be using a blank space as a hack to get around that |
| 18:27.21 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:27] <Xinhuan> and usually gives wrong data over time since prices change over time <--wrong |
| 18:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | not anymore |
| 18:27.26 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, how much does adamantite cost ? |
| 18:27.34 | Xinhuan | currently, 19-22g on my server |
| 18:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | the code for noticing rising/falling prices has become pretty good Xinhuan |
| 18:27.40 | Xinhuan | last month, it was 21-24g |
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| 18:27.47 | Xinhuan | 2 months ago, it was 23-28g |
| 18:27.49 | cncfanatics | from what gem sell price on do you win money ? on average |
| 18:27.52 | Xinhuan | 3 months ago it was 26-29g |
| 18:27.53 | Mudkips | it's not worth to sell adamantite |
| 18:27.54 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: the screen is from ag_unitframes, but i preffer pitbull ;) |
| 18:28.01 | Xinhuan | 4 months ago, it was 25-28g |
| 18:28.08 | Mudkips | if you can prospect them it's mad $$ |
| 18:28.14 | Ellipsis | ah, well, perhaps you can duplicate the layout using the blank space trick :) |
| 18:28.22 | Xinhuan | again, the peak price of ada ore was during the june-july-august period |
| 18:28.22 | [SW]Dodge | ill try it :) |
| 18:28.25 | Xinhuan | not quite sure why |
| 18:28.44 | Mudkips | I do have a huge stock of fel iron and eternium |
| 18:28.45 | Xinhuan | but i would assume people were farming ore to get gold to socket s2 gear |
| 18:28.51 | Mudkips | probably going to smelt all of them into felsteel |
| 18:28.56 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan |
| 18:29.02 | cncfanatics | what price do you have to sell gems for ? to have gain |
| 18:29.19 | Xinhuan | that's hard to answer cncfanatics |
| 18:29.27 | Xinhuan | every gem has a different price |
| 18:29.33 | cncfanatics | on average ofc |
| 18:29.37 | cncfanatics | or per gem, good too |
| 18:29.44 | Xinhuan | after 8 months of it, i more or less have the avg pricing of every gem |
| 18:29.49 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: uhm do you know how i can set the portrait above the blank space? and the blank transparent ^^ |
| 18:29.55 | cncfanatics | but there should be a set price at which you have to sell each gem for |
| 18:29.56 | Xinhuan | radiant talasites for eg, sell for an avg of 9g each |
| 18:29.58 | cncfanatics | to win money |
| 18:30.04 | Xinhuan | but solid stars currently sell 40g |
| 18:30.15 | Mudkips | I price for the raw gem |
| 18:30.17 | Xinhuan | soverign nightseye goes for 38g |
| 18:30.30 | Xinhuan | i never sell the raw gem, because they go for heaps less |
| 18:30.36 | Xinhuan | i always cut them and put it up |
| 18:30.51 | nevcairiel | i never buy pre-cut gems |
| 18:31.06 | Xinhuan | the ones that buy pre-cut gem fo it for the convenience have not having to spam /2 |
| 18:31.08 | Ellipsis | [SW]Dodge: no clue, I don't use those modules |
| 18:31.16 | Xinhuan | or they don't have a friend/guildie who can cut it |
| 18:31.33 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok, thank you anyway :) |
| 18:31.38 | Xinhuan | a stack of ada ore (20 ore) can be prospected 4 times |
| 18:31.41 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, check my new interface btw, I like it :p |
| 18:31.44 | Amadeo | not this again! |
| 18:31.46 | Ellipsis | I buy pre-cut because I have no friends :( |
| 18:31.49 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: linky? |
| 18:31.50 | Xinhuan | the avg rate of getting a blue quality gem is 22% per prospect |
| 18:31.53 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/uirogue.png I think |
| 18:31.56 | Mudkips | prospecting is like gambling.. you don't always get good gems |
| 18:32.00 | cncfanatics | I specialy like the profs interface I made with FB :p |
| 18:32.05 | Mudkips | or sometimes... no blue gems at all |
| 18:32.05 | Ellipsis | same goes for DEing Mudkips |
| 18:32.07 | Xinhuan | so if you prospect 10 stacks of ore, you are likely to get 9 blue gems |
| 18:32.07 | cncfanatics | can put ores/bars/stones in there to keep a count |
| 18:32.20 | Mudkips | but DE'ing is predictable for higher level items |
| 18:32.24 | Xinhuan | now if you avg out the prices of each blue gem (there are 6 colours) |
| 18:32.28 | Ellipsis | within certain ranges |
| 18:32.32 | Xinhuan | and sell them cut on the AH |
| 18:32.32 | kenlyric | you won't get sudden arcane dust out of epics. |
| 18:32.33 | Mudkips | blue gear will almost always be shards |
| 18:32.40 | Ellipsis | there are still items where you can get 1 lousy arcane dust or a large prismatic or anything in between |
| 18:32.47 | Xinhuan | it works out to be a good 10g profit per stack or so |
| 18:32.53 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, nice stuff |
| 18:32.55 | kenlyric | course, shards are worth more than crystals :) |
| 18:32.59 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: you don't buy epics off teh AH to DE |
| 18:33.00 | Xinhuan | esp since i also cut the green quality stuff gems |
| 18:33.02 | cncfanatics | lets see, lets count 20g per stack to be easy |
| 18:33.03 | Xinhuan | and ah |
| 18:33.18 | Xinhuan | to see if its profitable, you have to look at the prices on your server |
| 18:33.18 | Ozguli | damn slow server :O |
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| 18:33.21 | kenlyric | wow |
| 18:33.26 | kenlyric | that sscreenshot is still loading... |
| 18:33.29 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, no idea, I'm gonna look & calculate soon |
| 18:33.34 | kenlyric | 200 mpix? |
| 18:33.44 | Mudkips | so you actually bother cutting the uncommon gems too? |
| 18:33.46 | kenlyric | oh, png, fail |
| 18:33.47 | Xinhuan | also you MUST have every gem cut in the game (buy it all, put in about 5k gold investment) for this to be profitable |
| 18:33.49 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, if its the one I linked, uncompressed png at 1600x1200 |
| 18:34.01 | Mudkips | I've vendor truckloads of those |
| 18:34.03 | kenlyric | png makes baby jesus ask for compression |
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| 18:34.05 | Ellipsis | and on a lame host at that :P |
| 18:34.14 | cncfanatics | its free, and got 10gig space |
| 18:34.16 | Ellipsis | png has compression... cncfanatics is just too cool to use it |
| 18:34.18 | cncfanatics | and unlimited bandwith |
| 18:34.28 | cncfanatics | I'm not going to be bothered by the fact my host is slow :p |
| 18:34.30 | kenlyric | unlimitied 5k/s |
| 18:34.31 | Ellipsis | OH GOD |
| 18:34.32 | Xinhuan | this is how you work it out |
| 18:34.33 | Ellipsis | the minimap just loaded |
| 18:34.34 | Ellipsis | oh god |
| 18:34.41 | cncfanatics | what Ellipsis ? :p |
| 18:34.45 | Rayden | playing the AH sounds like a lot of work |
| 18:34.47 | Ellipsis | THE BUTTONS |
| 18:34.51 | cncfanatics | whats up with em ? |
| 18:34.56 | Ellipsis | SO MANY |
| 18:34.57 | kenlyric | too cool for fubar. |
| 18:34.59 | Amadeo | All screenshots should be like 60MB |
| 18:35.00 | cncfanatics | so what ? |
| 18:35.02 | Xinhuan | if you buy 6 stacks of ada ore - this costs 120g (assume 20g per stack) - 22% chance to get a rare gem means you are on avg going to get 1 of each gem |
| 18:35.03 | cncfanatics | I dislike fubar |
| 18:35.08 | Ellipsis | so what? |
| 18:35.11 | Ellipsis | hide the frickin buttons |
| 18:35.14 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 18:35.20 | cncfanatics | they don't bother me :p |
| 18:35.22 | Ellipsis | because they're ugly and in the way |
| 18:35.25 | Xinhuan | so calculate the avg price of each gem (talasite, ruby, dawnstone, solid star, nightseye, topaz) add it up |
| 18:35.29 | Xinhuan | and see if it is more than 120g |
| 18:35.31 | kenlyric | all screenshots just should be in uncompressed png. It's an aobomination, like saving them in .gif |
| 18:35.41 | cncfanatics | its high quality :p |
| 18:35.43 | sag_ich_nicht | minimap buttonbag imho |
| 18:35.44 | Xinhuan | if it is, on avg, it will be a profit in the long run |
| 18:35.45 | cncfanatics | gif is not high quality rofl |
| 18:35.48 | Amadeo | But WoW itself isn't high quality! |
| 18:35.52 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: you can't go higher quality than the *game* |
| 18:35.59 | cncfanatics | that is with the game resolution |
| 18:36.01 | cncfanatics | 1600x1200 |
| 18:36.30 | kenlyric | png uncompressed is far and away a higher quality than the game. |
| 18:37.06 | Mudkips | are you using auctioneer on your main? |
| 18:37.11 | kenlyric | god, it was still only 2.7mb. |
| 18:37.27 | Mudkips | such a pain switching AH duty from mule to main |
| 18:37.40 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, next time don't bother clicking my links then |
| 18:38.09 | Rayden | i like how people protest a class change on the forum and if nothing is done they say blizzard doesnt listen to <class>. but if blizzard repeals their change then people say blizzard is being bullied into making changes |
| 18:38.15 | Ellipsis | what's worse is that you didn't bother to enable antialiasing, cncfanatics :P |
| 18:38.18 | kenlyric | let's all chip in on a 14.4k modem for this free.fr place |
| 18:38.24 | kenlyric | double speed! |
| 18:38.29 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 18:38.31 | Amadeo | free france! |
| 18:38.46 | kenlyric | every packet surrenders at each hop |
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| 18:38.54 | kenlyric | it's all falling into place |
| 18:38.58 | Amadeo | You can get two and shotgun them! |
| 18:38.59 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I didn't ? :o |
| 18:39.11 | cncfanatics | it should be, I might have disabled it though when I tested new gfx drivers |
| 18:39.35 | kenlyric | Rayden: logic isn't the *first* rule of forum trolls. |
| 18:39.40 | Ellipsis | either that or you have the same bug I do where it likes to disable itself |
| 18:39.42 | Mudkips | AA makes my game stutter ha |
| 18:39.46 | Ellipsis | but you apparently don't notice when that happens :P |
| 18:39.53 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, Its noticable tbh |
| 18:39.55 | Amadeo | Does the game even look different from lowest to highest settings? :P |
| 18:40.03 | Ellipsis | it's VERY noticable |
| 18:40.05 | Mudkips | anyway, using AA with the lowest draw distance isn't exactly smart |
| 18:40.14 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, yea :p |
| 18:40.15 | Ellipsis | it drives me *crazy* when it's not AA'd |
| 18:40.16 | kenlyric | people feel about their class like they feel about their favorite sports team. All that is good is obvious, all that is bad is someone else's fault. |
| 18:40.24 | Ellipsis | I have /console gxrestart hotkeyed. |
| 18:40.24 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I usualy don't notice |
| 18:40.25 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: What resolution? |
| 18:40.31 | kenlyric | I've never had a card capable of AA without serious slowdown. |
| 18:40.33 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: I'm at 1440x900, all settings maxed |
| 18:40.37 | kenlyric | I hope to, someday. |
| 18:40.43 | Amadeo | The higher resolution you go, the less you need AA |
| 18:40.44 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.49 | Amadeo | Since cncfanatics runs at 1600x1200, he needs it less |
| 18:40.56 | Ellipsis | yes cncfanatics |
| 18:41.14 | Ellipsis | it actually is a miracle cure for several of the most annoying WoW glitches |
| 18:41.16 | Mudkips | what's that console command for? |
| 18:41.17 | cncfanatics | now how do we enable AA again |
| 18:41.22 | Ellipsis | it restarts the graphics engine |
| 18:41.26 | cncfanatics | where's the setting again ? |
| 18:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 18:41.27 | Mudkips | getting settings to stick that require a game restart?? |
| 18:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 18:41.29 | Ellipsis | without reloading your UI or anything messy like that |
| 18:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | you on the PTR? |
| 18:41.36 | Ellipsis | no sir |
| 18:41.41 | sag_ich_nicht | well get on it |
| 18:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | becuase i can't install it |
| 18:41.48 | Ellipsis | and? |
| 18:41.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i need someone to send me a config.wtf file from the PTR with all the video settings max'd out |
| 18:42.03 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, where is the AA setting again ? |
| 18:42.11 | Amadeo | I'm anti-AA and pro-resolution! |
| 18:42.13 | Mudkips | O_o |
| 18:42.21 | Ellipsis | it's under "multisampling" on the right |
| 18:42.30 | Ellipsis | pro-resolution? |
| 18:42.36 | Ellipsis | what are you talking about? o.O |
| 18:42.39 | cncfanatics | Anisontropic filtering ? |
| 18:42.45 | Mudkips | multisampling is AF |
| 18:42.53 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:42.55 | Mudkips | that kills my game even more |
| 18:42.56 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 18:43.03 | Mudkips | there is a separate AA setting |
| 18:43.10 | Amadeo | A lot of people buy hardware based on how games run with full aniso/AA on, but I would prefer to buy hardware that runs games at higher resolutions with AA off |
| 18:43.13 | Ellipsis | Mudkips, you has it backwards |
| 18:43.15 | Mudkips | it's pretty obvious |
| 18:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | multisampling is AA |
| 18:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc |
| 18:43.20 | Ellipsis | the multisampling is AA |
| 18:43.25 | Mudkips | then wow has it wrong |
| 18:43.25 | Ellipsis | there's a separate AF setting |
| 18:43.26 | cncfanatics | its at 56hz |
| 18:43.35 | Mudkips | because there is an antialiasing toggle |
| 18:43.36 | Ellipsis | no Mudkips, you do |
| 18:43.38 | cncfanatics | can't seem to change that settings |
| 18:43.41 | Mudkips | and a multisampling toggle |
| 18:43.45 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:43.47 | Ellipsis | you are wrong Mudkips |
| 18:43.49 | Ellipsis | l2read |
| 18:43.50 | Mudkips | omfg |
| 18:43.51 | cncfanatics | multisampling ain't a toggle |
| 18:43.55 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:43.57 | Mudkips | whatever as;ldfjas;dfl!@!! |
| 18:43.57 | Ellipsis | it's a dropdown |
| 18:44.00 | Mudkips | dropdown! |
| 18:44.00 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, its at 56hz and I can't change it |
| 18:44.02 | Mudkips | be technical more |
| 18:44.07 | Ellipsis | NOT THE REFRESH RATE |
| 18:44.07 | Ellipsis | GAH |
| 18:44.08 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 18:44.10 | Ellipsis | top right corner |
| 18:44.14 | Ellipsis | multisampling |
| 18:44.16 | Mudkips | cncfanatics WTF?/!1 |
| 18:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | HEY |
| 18:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | LISTEN TO ME |
| 18:44.31 | cncfanatics | yea, that setting is at 56hz and I can't change it |
| 18:44.32 | sag_ich_nicht | STFU |
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| 18:44.38 | Mooz1 | ... |
| 18:44.39 | cncfanatics | my refresh rate is 75hz ofc :p |
| 18:44.46 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: no, stop being dumb |
| 18:44.47 | cncfanatics | I'm not THAT stupid you know :p |
| 18:45.01 | Ellipsis | multi-sampling lets you choose the color depth as well as the AA |
| 18:45.02 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: Screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 18:45.03 | Xinhuan | owned |
| 18:45.05 | Ellipsis | if that's confusing you |
| 18:45.09 | Mooz1 | it should say something like "24 bit multisampling x 4" |
| 18:45.10 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I cannot change that setting |
| 18:45.13 | Mudkips | okay now I"m just freaking confused |
| 18:45.14 | cncfanatics | like I said for the 7th time |
| 18:45.19 | Ellipsis | why not? |
| 18:45.21 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics then your wow is broken |
| 18:45.23 | cncfanatics | the dropdown won't drop anything |
| 18:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and you need to run repair.exe |
| 18:45.34 | cncfanatics | cba |
| 18:45.37 | Ellipsis | what's it set at now cncfanatics? |
| 18:45.37 | Amadeo | probably related to video drivers |
| 18:45.43 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, at 56hz |
| 18:45.46 | Ellipsis | no |
| 18:45.49 | Ellipsis | the multisampling one |
| 18:45.51 | Ellipsis | not refresh goddammit |
| 18:45.56 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 18:46.05 | Erren | Excuse me, but does anyone know of an addon that allows easy configuration of a UI? I am a perfectionist, and I'd like to make sure everything is straight and perfectly centered. Any recommendations on this? |
| 18:46.05 | cncfanatics | THATS WHAT MULTISAMPLING IS SET TO REFRESH RATE IS AT 75HZ |
| 18:46.06 | Mudkips | cncfanatics, my head is asploding |
| 18:46.12 | sag_ich_nicht | OKAY LOOK |
| 18:46.13 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: take a screenshot of your graphics settings |
| 18:46.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ELLIPSIS |
| 18:46.16 | Ellipsis | I don't buy this at all |
| 18:46.22 | Mooz1 | http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3568/wowsettingsqp1.jpg UPPER RIGHT CORNER |
| 18:46.23 | sag_ich_nicht | HE HAS A BROKEN WOW |
| 18:46.24 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 18:46.40 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 18:46.40 | CIA-7 | -Fixed syntax error in mount list |
| 18:46.40 | CIA-7 | -Added health text color changing based on health % |
| 18:46.45 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:46.46 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics |
| 18:46.48 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, I'm just under linux :p |
| 18:46.49 | sag_ich_nicht | make a screenshot. |
| 18:46.52 | Ellipsis | gotta be pretty freaking broken if it's that bad |
| 18:46.54 | cncfanatics | I am at the very moment |
| 18:47.06 | Amadeo | Erren: You can try Align |
| 18:47.15 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics you run it in opengl mode |
| 18:47.17 | sag_ich_nicht | don't you? |
| 18:47.20 | Ellipsis | ... |
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| 18:47.25 | Erren | Align, where is that available? wowace.com? |
| 18:47.28 | cncfanatics | yes I do sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:47.35 | Amadeo | wowinterface.com |
| 18:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics you are a retard, update your WINE and run it in DX mode |
| 18:47.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it will work BETTER |
| 18:48.12 | Amadeo | You guys are pretty hostile |
| 18:48.17 | Mudkips | what kind of vid card does cncfanatics have? |
| 18:48.20 | Erren | Amadeo: Thank you very much, that is exactly what I am looking for. |
| 18:48.20 | cncfanatics | it will sag_ich_nicht ? since when did dx mode ever work better then opengl ? :o |
| 18:48.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Amadeo always angry, all the time. |
| 18:48.23 | Mooz1 | voodoo3 |
| 18:48.30 | Amadeo | Erren: Welcome :) |
| 18:48.32 | Mudkips | voodoo3 ? |
| 18:48.37 | cncfanatics | I never heard anyone say that sag_ich_nicht, and tbh I doubt it, linky ? |
| 18:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: a few wine versions ago, bleeter was being a bitch at WINE HQ and since then it's fixed. |
| 18:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc, maybe i'm wrong but i doubt it |
| 18:49.16 | cncfanatics | I doubt dx could even work better then opengl |
| 18:49.24 | Mudkips | does anyone else have model loads? |
| 18:49.37 | sag_ich_nicht | just update your wine |
| 18:49.37 | Mudkips | loooooong *** |
| 18:49.38 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 18:49.45 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, doing that |
| 18:50.07 | Amadeo | I hate the way WoW plays/feels in OpenGL compared to DX |
| 18:50.17 | Mudkips | what's the diff? |
| 18:50.21 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics is one of those "never touch a running system, even if the upgrades available could increase my speed" |
| 18:50.28 | Amadeo | the mouse and framerate, for me |
| 18:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | guys |
| 18:50.37 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, totaly not |
| 18:50.45 | cncfanatics | I often upgrade |
| 18:50.49 | cncfanatics | just never bothered to try dx |
| 18:51.07 | Mudkips | sag_ich_nicht reminds me of those system admins |
| 18:51.10 | Xinhuan | if multisampling doesn't have any options - no dropdown. a bug in the UI probably makes the last menu previously shown (which is the refresh rate), show up as the text for the multisampling dropdown |
| 18:51.23 | Mudkips | they'd rather keep a win 98 network going because it just works |
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| 18:51.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips: i punch those people |
| 18:51.48 | cncfanatics | don't compare me to such stupid sysadmins tbh :/ |
| 18:51.51 | Mudkips | heck |
| 18:51.56 | Ellipsis | it's been working fine for 15 years, why should we replace it?! |
| 18:51.57 | Mudkips | it reminds me of a lot of telecomms |
| 18:52.00 | Mudkips | T_T |
| 18:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 18:52.05 | Mudkips | wtb faster intarwebs |
| 18:52.12 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB working internet. |
| 18:52.17 | durcyn | netbeui is a GREAT protocol! |
| 18:52.22 | sag_ich_nicht | durcyn |
| 18:52.27 | Amadeo | Most of the time they keep something going because they don't want to spend the money on upgrades |
| 18:52.35 | durcyn | sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:52.37 | Amadeo | or can't |
| 18:52.39 | sag_ich_nicht | that shouldn't even be said in a sarcastic context. |
| 18:52.54 | Xinhuan | its more because upgrading causes downtime |
| 18:53.00 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'm a little weirded out by that comment |
| 18:53.00 | Xinhuan | and downtime = lost profits |
| 18:53.20 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 18:53.23 | Mooz1 | downtime - ??? = lost profits |
| 18:53.29 | Mudkips | yeah at&t.... upgrading infrastructure would cose tons of money |
| 18:53.37 | cncfanatics | its just that |
| 18:53.44 | cncfanatics | if I want the latest wine version |
| 18:53.47 | cncfanatics | then I got to compile it myself |
| 18:53.48 | Mudkips | because they wouldn't be cover costs in a blink of an eye once it's set up |
| 18:53.49 | cncfanatics | which is a pain |
| 18:53.50 | Mudkips | . . . |
| 18:53.57 | durcyn | cncfanatics: which distribution |
| 18:53.57 | Mudkips | the* |
| 18:54.01 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: what OS are you on again? |
| 18:54.04 | cncfanatics | debian |
| 18:54.15 | Amadeo | debian stable, so his WINE is like 8 years old! |
| 18:54.19 | cncfanatics | unstable |
| 18:54.21 | cncfanatics | you idiot |
| 18:54.21 | Xinhuan | keep in mind new systems have to be setup, and fine tuned to work |
| 18:54.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:54.23 | Xinhuan | all that takes time |
| 18:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | he uses linux, Ellipsis. |
| 18:54.30 | Xinhuan | plus new systems may have loopholes to patch |
| 18:54.31 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/gfxsettings.png |
| 18:54.33 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: everyone knows wine is better aged ;) |
| 18:54.38 | Xinhuan | or cause instability until issues are fixed |
| 18:54.40 | durcyn | debian's package policy makes me cry |
| 18:54.45 | Xinhuan | all that can cause users to complain |
| 18:54.46 | Mooz1 | O.o |
| 18:54.51 | Mudkips | which is why they need someone to push em around a bit |
| 18:54.51 | Mooz1 | your wow is borked |
| 18:54.53 | Mooz1 | fix it |
| 18:55.01 | cncfanatics | now, go tell me whats wrong |
| 18:55.02 | Ellipsis | k yeah cncfanatics I think WoW doesn't like your wine |
| 18:55.03 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Nuh uh, didn't you see The Jerk!? |
| 18:55.08 | CIA-7 | 03scorpion * r54037 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 18:55.08 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 18:55.08 | CIA-7 | - Updated localization zhTW |
| 18:55.08 | CIA-7 | - Updated localization zhCN |
| 18:55.09 | Mudkips | so they stop sitting comfortable lining money in their pockets |
| 18:55.10 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: huh? |
| 18:55.16 | cncfanatics | gonna try dxd mode |
| 18:55.22 | cncfanatics | gonna launch a compile of wine .48 I guess |
| 18:55.25 | Mudkips | charging more money for services that is actually getting worse |
| 18:55.38 | Xinhuan | directx > opengl by miles |
| 18:55.50 | Amadeo | "Ah yes, but no more 1966. Lets splurge! Bring us some fresh wine! The freshest you've got - this year! No more of this old stuff." |
| 18:55.54 | Xinhuan | the graphic quality, speed, etc |
| 18:56.34 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, well, my wow runs better on linux with opengl then on windows with dxd |
| 18:56.38 | cncfanatics | still proves something |
| 18:56.51 | cncfanatics | got .47 from a package |
| 18:56.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (with worse quality *cough*) |
| 18:56.54 | cncfanatics | guess that'll do fine |
| 18:57.01 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, same quality |
| 18:57.03 | cncfanatics | no noticable difference |
| 18:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not. your eyes suck. |
| 18:57.30 | Mudkips | lol |
| 18:57.37 | Xinhuan | there actually is a noticable difference |
| 18:57.40 | Xinhuan | go take screenshots |
| 18:57.55 | cncfanatics | I'll put this different |
| 18:58.03 | Mudkips | ever fly around in shatt and randomly stop?? |
| 18:58.08 | cncfanatics | with an old radeon 9600 that has all settings turned down to mini anyway there is no difference |
| 18:58.14 | Mudkips | on auto run |
| 18:58.58 | Mudkips | i switched from a 9500 pro to a x1650 |
| 18:59.13 | cncfanatics | I'm with a 9600 pro, next card I buy is nvidia :p |
| 18:59.17 | Mudkips | only noticeable difference is that I don't lag when I go thru that water tunnel in SSC |
| 18:59.25 | Mudkips | and fire effects |
| 18:59.30 | cncfanatics | btw sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:59.38 | cncfanatics | WoW doesn't start up in dxd mode lol :p |
| 18:59.46 | Ellipsis | stop failing imo |
| 18:59.49 | cncfanatics | fixme:d3d9:IDirect3DDevice9Impl_CreateVertexBuffer (0x12bb30) call to IWineD3DDevice_CreateVertexBuffer failed |
| 18:59.54 | cncfanatics | now go QQ somewhere else |
| 19:00.11 | Mudkips | with an aging 3200xp, full low settings doesn't even keep a stable >20fps on raid bosses |
| 19:00.14 | Xinhuan | is there a "dxdiag" equuivalent on non-windows system? |
| 19:00.17 | Mudkips | more like 10 less |
| 19:00.27 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, glxinfo |
| 19:00.32 | cncfanatics | thats console though |
| 19:00.45 | Xinhuan | well i asked open directx, not opengl! |
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| 19:01.07 | cncfanatics | there is no dxd on non windows systems ? |
| 19:01.15 | cncfanatics | so why would there be a damn dxdiag ? |
| 19:01.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate this song. |
| 19:01.30 | Amadeo | I hate Winamp |
| 19:01.39 | Ellipsis | there's emulation of directx, so there ought to be some way of viewing the directx settins |
| 19:01.41 | Ellipsis | settings* |
| 19:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i removed all the crap from mine, it's like 2.92 except with bugfixes. |
| 19:01.46 | dylanm | sag_ich_nicht: Naw, that's a great song. |
| 19:01.47 | Amadeo | I also hate IRC colors |
| 19:01.57 | Mudkips | o noes a winamp hater |
| 19:02.01 | ag` | Mudkips: the x16xx cards from ATi just plain sucked |
| 19:02.02 | dylanm | sag_ich_nicht: One of the highlights on an otherwise drab album. |
| 19:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | dylanm: yes. |
| 19:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't change that i hate it. |
| 19:02.09 | Mudkips | ag` I agree |
| 19:02.12 | Ellipsis | what is your choice of media player then oh great leet one? |
| 19:02.18 | ag` | You should've gotten a nvidia 7600 or something |
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| 19:02.24 | Amadeo | Media or audio? |
| 19:02.30 | cncfanatics | rhytmbox wins |
| 19:02.32 | Ellipsis | either/both/whatever |
| 19:02.40 | Mudkips | ya my next card is definitely going to be nvidia |
| 19:02.51 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r54038 10BankStack/BankStack.toc: |
| 19:02.51 | CIA-7 | BankStack: Add an optdep on LibFuBarPlugin-3.0; I noticed that FuBar doesn't actually embed/optdep it, so it there was |
| 19:02.51 | CIA-7 | no guarantee of it actually being present. |
| 19:03.19 | sag_ich_nicht | in before foobar |
| 19:03.19 | sag_ich_nicht | winamp for audio, media player classic for video |
| 19:03.27 | Amadeo | I like media players that have built in codecs, so I've been using KMPlayer for video files and such...XMPlay is probably the best sounding audio player right now, but the interface can be pretty blah...so foobar2000 is the other choice |
| 19:03.54 | cncfanatics | if you want good sounding songs the bitrate should matter more then the player though N |
| 19:03.54 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 19:04.13 | cncfanatics | 194 kbps incoded oggs are nice imo :p |
| 19:04.21 | Ellipsis | flac |
| 19:04.27 | Ellipsis | end of discussion |
| 19:04.29 | Mudkips | yeah MPC for video with CCCP codecs |
| 19:04.33 | Amadeo | It's all personal preference, I like lightweight applications...most sound quality issues won't be noticed unless you are using quality hardware or at least a nice set of speakers/headphones |
| 19:04.37 | cncfanatics | ofc, thats lossless, but flac takes so damn much space |
| 19:04.47 | cncfanatics | and its hard to find flac encoded songs except getting them straight from a cd |
| 19:04.58 | Ellipsis | where else would you get your music? |
| 19:05.00 | Ellipsis | dirty lawbreaker |
| 19:05.05 | Mudkips | lulz |
| 19:05.12 | Xinhuan | i use a very very old version of winamp that has no frills |
| 19:05.15 | cncfanatics | most probably from thepiratebay, demonoid or mininova |
| 19:05.18 | Xinhuan | for mp3s |
| 19:05.20 | Mudkips | 2.x winamps are win |
| 19:05.21 | Amadeo | MPC works great but I don't believe the original author updates it anymore, and I had issues with wmv files where I don't in KMPlayer |
| 19:05.23 | cncfanatics | any of the 3 will do with a preference for demonoid |
| 19:05.40 | Mudkips | the only reason i use the new winamp with bento skin is for the interface |
| 19:05.47 | Amadeo | I absolutely hate Bento |
| 19:05.58 | Ellipsis | bento? |
| 19:06.01 | Kemayo | <3 foobar. |
| 19:06.03 | Mudkips | bento |
| 19:06.04 | Amadeo | The new Winamp interface |
| 19:06.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:04] <Ellipsis> end of discussion <--<3 |
| 19:06.05 | Ellipsis | I'll admit it's been a while since I checked out winamp skins |
| 19:06.05 | Mudkips | ! |
| 19:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | CCCP IS NOT A CODEC PACK |
| 19:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | DIE IN A FIRE YOU FOOL |
| 19:06.27 | cncfanatics | oh god, can everyone please shut up ? |
| 19:06.31 | Mudkips | i said CCCP codecs... |
| 19:06.32 | Xuerian | All you linux people with ati cards wanting nvidia ones, if you at all intend to use compiz... If you have dual heads, it's only going to work in twinview, xinerama acceleration is made of fail in nvidia drivers atm |
| 19:06.33 | Amadeo | Winamp skins only make it use more resources |
| 19:06.34 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, sit down and be nice or I'm taking away your torch |
| 19:06.36 | Mudkips | what are you shouting about? |
| 19:06.53 | Xuerian | Also, to be relevant, fb2k ftw |
| 19:06.56 | sag_ich_nicht | CCCP isn't codecs either, fool. |
| 19:07.08 | Mudkips | then what is it? |
| 19:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lern what terms mean before you use them. |
| 19:07.22 | sag_ich_nicht | CCCP CLAIMS to be a codec pack, while it is a collection of decoders, not codecs. |
| 19:07.34 | Mudkips | right. |
| 19:07.37 | Amadeo | The name has Codec Pack in it, haha |
| 19:07.50 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, you're so dreamy |
| 19:07.57 | Mudkips | if you could see my face right now |
| 19:08.01 | Mudkips | I would tell you to look at it |
| 19:08.03 | gnorlish | instead of yelling you could just http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Community_Codec_Pack |
| 19:08.07 | Mudkips | because it doesn't care =_= |
| 19:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, CCCP is just a fancy installer for ffdshow with media player |
| 19:08.28 | Mudkips | so? |
| 19:08.32 | Mudkips | they still keep it nice and neat |
| 19:08.36 | sag_ich_nicht | it sucks for actually encoding videos or getting some high quality decodings with deblocking and 5.1 audio |
| 19:08.44 | Pkekyo | hmm...anyone know how you grind absolute assloads of those demon hunter apprentices by the black temple at the same time as a prot warr? |
| 19:08.47 | cncfanatics | hey, lets all use vista and all get DRM ? |
| 19:08.59 | cncfanatics | that'd be nice |
| 19:09.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo: you can't, lol. reroll prot paladin. |
| 19:09.04 | Ellipsis | worst suggestion all day |
| 19:09.05 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: I'd rather cut my dick off and throw it in the sewer |
| 19:09.09 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics fails |
| 19:09.14 | cncfanatics | smell the sarcasm plx |
| 19:09.17 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: no, I've seen it done as a prot warr as well |
| 19:09.31 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, healing trinkets, dmg when hit trinkets |
| 19:09.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian: i guess you don't like anal toys then? |
| 19:09.38 | cncfanatics | get a shield spike & all that shit |
| 19:09.43 | Xuerian | sag_ich_nicht: Now I never said that |
| 19:09.44 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 19:09.45 | Mudkips | Pkekyo, respec! |
| 19:09.46 | sag_ich_nicht | shame |
| 19:09.48 | gnorlish | high shield block values |
| 19:09.49 | Mudkips | clearly the only option |
| 19:09.57 | Mudkips | golds |
| 19:10.01 | Mudkips | that's what it comes down to |
| 19:10.03 | Ellipsis | I *love* the timing of cncfanatics's comment about the shield spike |
| 19:10.05 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: which ones? |
| 19:10.05 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: meh! |
| 19:10.16 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, lol |
| 19:10.19 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, the best one u can afford ? |
| 19:10.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol Ellipsis |
| 19:10.22 | kenlyric | I agree. Well done all. |
| 19:10.25 | Mudkips | shield spikes & anal? |
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| 19:10.36 | cncfanatics | thats for Ellipsis, Mudkips |
| 19:10.41 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 19:10.42 | Mudkips | I see |
| 19:10.59 | Xuerian | Now as to if the entire shield is involved, or just the spikes, well... |
| 19:11.03 | Xuerian | That's nsfw, really |
| 19:11.03 | Mooz1 | harble |
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| 19:11.13 | cncfanatics | now, I'm going to have dinner |
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| 19:11.23 | cncfanatics | right after a conversation about anal shield spikes & shields, great |
| 19:11.28 | cncfanatics | I'm going to eat very well now ... |
| 19:11.29 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: consider me broke as hell, now what? |
| 19:11.30 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:11.38 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 19:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | if you get disgusted by that |
| 19:11.43 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: farm somewhere ezmode first |
| 19:11.52 | sag_ich_nicht | or for that matter, this disturbs your eating habbit |
| 19:11.53 | sag_ich_nicht | then you are weak |
| 19:12.05 | Mudkips | I was thinking that |
| 19:12.08 | Mudkips | +10 pts |
| 19:12.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, and come back before you have dessert |
| 19:12.16 | Ellipsis | we can gross you out SO much better |
| 19:12.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips: that is because you frequent the same platform as i do. |
| 19:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | but shh. |
| 19:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | we must not talk about that. |
| 19:12.47 | Mudkips | it must not be named |
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| 19:13.01 | Ellipsis | HAY I KNOW WHAT YUO GUYS ARE TALKIN ABOUT |
| 19:13.05 | sag_ich_nicht | HAY SHUT UP |
| 19:13.08 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 19:13.09 | Mudkips | Internet Hate Machine |
| 19:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | WE KNOW YOU DO |
| 19:13.21 | Ellipsis | can I hang out with the cool kids now? |
| 19:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 19:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 19:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | you have 2 options |
| 19:13.35 | Mudkips | tits |
| 19:13.36 | Mudkips | or |
| 19:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | and i think you know them well |
| 19:13.37 | Mudkips | gtfo |
| 19:13.41 | Ellipsis | I love you guys |
| 19:13.51 | Mudkips | :3 |
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| 19:14.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i thought you loved me? :( |
| 19:14.00 | sag_ich_nicht | slut. |
| 19:14.02 | Ellipsis | /google tits |
| 19:14.06 | Ellipsis | mt |
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| 19:15.33 | Pkekyo | will I be able to farm decently at ~11% +hit? (dw fury) - 168.4 rating |
| 19:15.39 | Mudkips | so uhh |
| 19:15.52 | Mudkips | what do you think of these Eee PC's? |
| 19:16.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo just remember to take enough food with you |
| 19:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips huh? |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54039 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua Cryolysis2.xml): |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-7 | -Added a third customizable button |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-7 | -Fixed several small bugs with the left customizable button |
| 19:16.14 | CIA-7 | -Fixed a small graphical issue with the mana gem button |
| 19:16.23 | Xuerian | Mudkips: I like the sound they make when you toss them out the window. EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeepc. |
| 19:16.48 | Amadeo | EeePC is overpriced |
| 19:16.53 | Amadeo | Asus lies about $199, they can die |
| 19:17.05 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 19:18.12 | Amadeo | They first say $199, then say maybe a little over $199, then say $250, then $299, and when it finally comes out, it's $399 |
| 19:18.15 | Mudkips | bad Xuerian |
| 19:18.32 | Mudkips | 399 |
| 19:18.34 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 19:18.38 | Mudkips | like the PS triple |
| 19:19.02 | Amadeo | What the hell is that? |
| 19:19.24 | Xuerian | Why the hell would I buy a flimsy half-powered wanna-be palm-pc for as much as I could upgrade to a current generation gaming computer for? |
| 19:19.53 | Tse | im new here. any sct/parrot gurus? i cant get spell lock (felhunter) to show up |
| 19:20.13 | Xuerian | tse: Yell at ckknight when he gets on |
| 19:20.19 | cncfanatics | back |
| 19:20.34 | Amadeo | You eat too fast, wait 20 minutes before you go swimming |
| 19:20.43 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, ckknight won't care unfortunatly :p he has other stuff on his mind |
| 19:20.43 | Tse | are there any other wowace addons that can track abilities and interrupts? i see "shaman friend" which owns |
| 19:20.52 | Xuerian | who what where |
| 19:21.01 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Explain what could possibly be more important |
| 19:21.01 | cncfanatics | Tse, parrot tracks them fine normaly, probably a bug |
| 19:21.20 | Tse | yea, i wish i knew how to narrow it down as a bug. i reinstalled and removed my settings just in case |
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| 19:22.31 | Ellipsis | Xuerian, he's been quite busy with rl stuff lately |
| 19:22.40 | Xuerian | blah |
| 19:22.57 | cncfanatics | I'd fix it if I knew the parrot code at all |
| 19:23.01 | cncfanatics | unfortunatly I don't |
| 19:23.02 | Pkekyo | 'rl stuff' is a fucking curse |
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| 19:23.22 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:23.27 | Ellipsis | that's why I got rid of mine |
| 19:23.31 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 19:23.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lies |
| 19:23.50 | Ellipsis | no, seriously, I'm all but dead irl |
| 19:23.54 | Xuerian | Same |
| 19:24.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis just doesn't want us to know what she does IRL |
| 19:24.10 | cncfanatics | meh, I'm more outside then inside lately, for a change |
| 19:24.20 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Traitor |
| 19:24.21 | cncfanatics | used to be different, unfortunatly :p |
| 19:24.32 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: it's true. I sell my body for drugs. |
| 19:24.36 | Ellipsis | oh, wait, I wasn't supposed to tell |
| 19:25.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i offer the same drugs for cheaper. |
| 19:25.24 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 19:25.33 | Ellipsis | I'll have my guy talk to your guy |
| 19:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm my guy tho. |
| 19:25.47 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 19:25.49 | Ellipsis | well then |
| 19:25.51 | Ellipsis | let's talk |
| 19:25.51 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 19:26.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what do you need |
| 19:26.23 | Ellipsis | you, baby |
| 19:26.34 | sag_ich_nicht | oh lawd! |
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| 19:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | well feel free to get a plane i guess |
| 19:27.14 | Xuerian | I'll bring the popcorn. o.o |
| 19:27.24 | cncfanatics | I'll bring the camera |
| 19:27.27 | Amadeo | I'll bring the shield spike |
| 19:27.35 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 19:27.37 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 19:27.37 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:27.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll bring the security guys that kick you out |
| 19:27.42 | break19 | I'll bring .. ah hell, I cant think of anything witty to say . |
| 19:27.47 | Mudkips | *fap fap fap* |
| 19:27.57 | Xuerian | Well, I guess we know what Mudkips is bringing |
| 19:27.58 | Mooz1 | o.o |
| 19:28.06 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54040 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 19:28.06 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 19:28.06 | CIA-7 | -Fixed bottom custom button's inability to save which spell it's set to. |
| 19:28.06 | CIA-7 | -Re-coded item counting code |
| 19:28.08 | cncfanatics | break19 , bring an extra dick ? |
| 19:28.18 | break19 | cncfanatics: no need.. its big enough to count as two |
| 19:28.22 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 19:28.31 | Mudkips | <.< |
| 19:28.37 | cncfanatics | hmmm, this remembers be the motd |
| 19:28.38 | break19 | .. and those that brag about that, are usually lying :p |
| 19:28.41 | cncfanatics | Please keep ..... |
| 19:28.47 | sag_ich_nicht | guys |
| 19:28.49 | sag_ich_nicht | /topic |
| 19:28.50 | Mudkips | aka break19 is a 2 incher |
| 19:28.50 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 19:28.57 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, I was first :p |
| 19:28.59 | break19 | Mudkips: thanks for the compliment. |
| 19:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | damn it cncfanatics |
| 19:29.21 | sag_ich_nicht | it's all Ellipsis fault(well and mine) |
| 19:29.32 | Ellipsis | no way am I taking the blame |
| 19:29.32 | Xuerian | Good grief you all. When we talk about the sensitive issues, we must -allude- to them in a gentile manner! |
| 19:29.44 | Xuerian | None of this crude talk >.o |
| 19:29.49 | break19 | now, back On topic.. anyone else having trouble creating new issues in Jira? |
| 19:29.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: we can take it together |
| 19:29.53 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 19:29.58 | Amadeo | Xuerian: You got something in your eye, looks like an arrow |
| 19:29.59 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 19:30.26 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Well I'll be damned. *Thuck* |
| 19:30.30 | Ellipsis | break19: nope, what's happening when you try? |
| 19:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:29] <Xuerian> Good grief you all. When we talk about the sensitive issues, we must -allude- to them in a gentile manner! <--Xuerian likes to have sex in the missionary position with his wife in the dark. |
| 19:30.57 | Xuerian | . |
| 19:30.58 | break19 | Ellipsis: when I click "create" after typin in the info: HTTP Status 404 - No view for result [error] exists for action [ViewIssue] |
| 19:31.10 | Ellipsis | cool, someone broke it |
| 19:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 19:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like someone broke it |
| 19:31.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Xuerian no |
| 19:31.26 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't |
| 19:31.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i wear glasses. |
| 19:31.33 | sag_ich_nicht | pwnt |
| 19:31.35 | Xuerian | So do I >.o |
| 19:31.36 | cncfanatics | even better |
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| 19:31.48 | break19 | I was attempting to post a trivial pitbull bug.. if I get kicked while AFK, and subsequently relog.. PB shows me as still afk |
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| 19:32.01 | cncfanatics | s/grabse/grabs/ |
| 19:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, cncfanatics |
| 19:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | speshul glasses |
| 19:32.06 | Xuerian | Nuu! Mah eye! |
| 19:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | they are break resistant |
| 19:32.16 | Xuerian | But are they arrow resistant? |
| 19:32.26 | sag_ich_nicht | if they aren't, i'm dead |
| 19:32.26 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 19:32.32 | Mech0z | Any acemod like enchantrix that estimates disenchant mats, enchantrix seems out of date |
| 19:32.38 | Xuerian | Well one would think, with a arrow in my skull, I'd be dead too! |
| 19:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and if i'm dead, you have to deal with an angry warlock |
| 19:32.41 | Xuerian | But apparently not =O |
| 19:32.43 | break19 | Mech0z: its not |
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| 19:33.00 | break19 | Mech0z: get the one included with Auctioneer Advanced 5.0 preview version |
| 19:33.02 | Mech0z | break19 well I could only find a very unstalbe version |
| 19:33.05 | Ellipsis | it's not out of date, just sucks @ data |
| 19:33.06 | Xuerian | Necrophiliac! |
| 19:33.07 | Mech0z | ok |
| 19:33.16 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 19:33.17 | Xuerian | oh. |
| 19:33.21 | Ellipsis | =[ |
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| 19:33.49 | Mech0z | do you have a link? I cant find 5.0 on the website |
| 19:34.10 | break19 | uhh auctioneeraddon.com - click the image that says Preview Edition |
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| 19:35.43 | cncfanatics | finaly, I can play WoW now |
| 19:35.50 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 19:36.01 | Paene | cncfanatics: no you can't, get back to work |
| 19:36.26 | cncfanatics | homework is done |
| 19:36.29 | cncfanatics | go die in a fire Paene |
| 19:36.32 | Paene | :) |
| 19:38.02 | Xuerian | Out of randomness, where the hell is Shalandis Isle? |
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| 19:38.42 | Ellipsis | <stock answer> wherever your quest log says it is </stock answer> |
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| 19:39.16 | Xuerian | No, actually I extracted the wow music and like the first two zone music tracks for it, but didn't remember where it was |
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| 19:39.33 | Azraelo | Anyone know how to get the name of the last spell cast by yourself? |
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| 19:40.07 | Xuerian | Azraelo: Register for the event and buffer the last name? |
| 19:40.28 | lolinternet | Xuerian: ghostlands |
| 19:40.31 | lolinternet | fucking disconnect |
| 19:40.32 | Xuerian | lolinternet: Yeah, the NE island |
| 19:40.43 | Azraelo | ok, way over my head lol - i'm not really an author, just trying to get a macro to be able to display the last spell I cast |
| 19:41.02 | Azraelo | like if i use a /castrandom, i want to be able to emote or /say the spell I just cast |
| 19:41.15 | Mudkips | ( Racy[x] ) Kinda fed up with kara now, really want zul'aman to come out |
| 19:41.23 | cncfanatics | Azraelo, you can't |
| 19:41.23 | Mudkips | spoken like a true.... |
| 19:41.52 | Xuerian | Where is Zul'aman going to be on the difficulty scale, anyway? |
| 19:41.53 | Mudkips | I can hear the screams of nerf a mile away |
| 19:42.01 | Mudkips | well... lets see |
| 19:42.27 | Xuerian | Neeevermind |
| 19:42.30 | Xuerian | wowwiki again XD |
| 19:42.37 | Mudkips | if you're looking to have fun in there (as that guy said) in kara gear, you won't be having much fun at all |
| 19:42.40 | Mudkips | I promise you that |
| 19:42.46 | Xuerian | Oh? |
| 19:43.53 | sylvanaar_work | its not easy - but then again they are always harder on test it seems like |
| 19:44.22 | Mudkips | maybe it is harder on test |
| 19:44.37 | Mudkips | but that's my experience with it and the whole guild agrees that kara guilds are going to get owned |
| 19:46.46 | sylvanaar_work | im sure they will at first |
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| 19:50.07 | CIA-7 | 03auditjj * r54041 10Numen/ (Numen.toc locales/zhTW.lua): |
| 19:50.07 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 19:50.07 | CIA-7 | - TOC 20200 |
| 19:50.07 | CIA-7 | - Added zhTW localization |
| 19:54.23 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54042 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.toc: |
| 19:54.23 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 19:54.23 | CIA-7 | -Quick .toc update for the addon page |
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| 19:56.16 | hypetech | does anybody have a string from CT_RaidTracker that I can borrow to test our new DKP system? |
| 19:56.19 | Obelix | when downloading a mod using the wau... should i installed with or without externals? |
| 19:56.40 | CIA-7 | 03auditjj * r54043 10MBB/ (MBB.toc localization-zhTW.lua): |
| 19:56.40 | CIA-7 | MBB: |
| 19:56.41 | CIA-7 | - TOC 20200 |
| 19:56.41 | CIA-7 | - Added zhTW localization |
| 19:56.49 | kenlyric | if you're a guild who has kara on farm and have all the lootz you could want out of it, not so bad. |
| 19:57.24 | kenlyric | but if you consider that about half of all guilds which raid are about halfway thorugh kara and they're *all* psyched about ZA, it's going to be a lot of fail. |
| 19:57.49 | Mudkips | hmm I dunno about that |
| 19:57.57 | kenlyric | which part? |
| 19:58.05 | Obelix | there's a lot less bosses in ZA aren't there? |
| 19:58.09 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 19:58.11 | Obelix | like 6 versus 10 or so |
| 19:58.14 | Mudkips | im in tier 6 |
| 19:58.14 | Ellipsis | what does that have to do with difficulty? |
| 19:58.19 | Obelix | nothign |
| 19:58.20 | Mudkips | the bear boss killed me |
| 19:58.23 | hypetech | does anybody have a string from CT_RaidTracker that I can borrow to test our new DKP system? |
| 19:58.26 | hypetech | :( |
| 19:58.30 | Obelix | but guilds will have more time to focus on 1 boss |
| 19:58.34 | Mudkips | during the silence with enough burst = me dead |
| 19:58.52 | Obelix | if they're like 6/10 in kara, i would hope that they would be able to get at least the first boss down or something |
| 19:59.37 | Obelix | i would imagine that they wouldn't be able to do a full clear of ZA until they've full cleared KZ several times and have gotten a lot of new badge gear |
| 19:59.40 | kenlyric | they *said* first boss is supposed to be as difficult as the end bosses in kara. At least that level of gear/execution. |
| 19:59.51 | kenlyric | course, they lie, a lot. |
| 20:00.19 | Mudkips | I can't see kara guilds defeating the hawk boss |
| 20:00.27 | Mudkips | unless they change the mechanics a bit |
| 20:00.28 | kenlyric | my horde guild, which just got curator and struggles with illhoof (after four months or so) is all psyched about ZA. |
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| 20:00.50 | kenlyric | I want to wish them well, but they used to wipe to the spider boss. |
| 20:00.53 | Mudkips | beat week those 5k firecones and the lose dragonhawks |
| 20:00.53 | Obelix | well, if its a matter of having difficulty with execution then yep.. you're going to suck |
| 20:01.01 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Alright. Got a question. Where's the Cart_Mining module? |
| 20:01.01 | Mudkips | it's a crapfest |
| 20:01.12 | Mudkips | between* |
| 20:01.17 | kenlyric | isn't that in cart now? |
| 20:01.19 | Mudkips | beat week ? wtf |
| 20:01.26 | Obelix | i transferred off my server cause my old guild wanted to stop 25 man progression to focus on ZA |
| 20:01.27 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | If it is, it doesn't work lol |
| 20:01.27 | kenlyric | if not, it's directly under cart :) |
| 20:01.38 | Obelix | this was after we were wiping on VR for like 3 weeks |
| 20:01.46 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | It's nowhere in the latest cart I downloaded a couple hours ago from the addons list. |
| 20:01.52 | kenlyric | then it's under cart |
| 20:01.53 | Obelix | we were 1/4 tk, and 1/6 ssc |
| 20:01.55 | kenlyric | in the addons list. |
| 20:02.08 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Nope. There's Fishing and Herbalism, but no mining |
| 20:02.46 | Mudkips | the trash in there also requires good organization |
| 20:02.51 | kenlyric | right there. |
| 20:02.54 | kenlyric | updated six days ago. |
| 20:02.59 | kenlyric | http://files.wowace.com/cat-map.html |
| 20:03.28 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Ah. Completely different addon list from what I'm looking at |
| 20:04.17 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Thanks kenlyric. |
| 20:04.27 | kenlyric | <hero> |
| 20:04.40 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 20:04.44 | Amadeo | I need a hero |
| 20:04.53 | CIA-7 | 03mcc * r54044 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 20:04.54 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 20:04.54 | CIA-7 | -update Locale zhTW |
| 20:04.59 | Mudkips | chuck norris |
| 20:05.04 | Ellipsis | Amadeo: you were saying that in the slutty human female voice right? |
| 20:05.21 | Ellipsis | 'cause that's how I imagined it |
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| 20:05.23 | Mudkips | human? |
| 20:05.27 | Amadeo | I got the slutty part down, I just can't do the female part yet |
| 20:05.37 | Ellipsis | one of the human female WoW flirts is "I need a hero" |
| 20:06.09 | Amadeo | Yar |
| 20:06.38 | CIA-7 | 03auditjj * r54045 10MBB/localization-zhTW.lua: |
| 20:06.38 | CIA-7 | MBB: |
| 20:06.38 | CIA-7 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 20:06.53 | Obelix | MBB = minimap button bag? |
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| 20:08.18 | Amadeo | I dislike most of the human female emotes |
| 20:08.28 | Amadeo | Blizzard removed all of the good emotes in the game for some reason |
| 20:08.47 | Amadeo | vibrating gnomes is bad, but Brewfest is ok! |
| 20:09.02 | Mudkips | need a /facepalm emote |
| 20:09.11 | NightHawkAtWork | i'm still annoyed over losing the " i kill two dwarves" emote |
| 20:09.36 | Amadeo | Yeah, that was the best emote in the game |
| 20:09.54 | Amadeo | Now Trolls have nothing going for them...ugly, no shoes, no good emotes |
| 20:09.56 | Amadeo | They should just die! |
| 20:10.43 | Xuerian | When did they change the remotes? |
| 20:10.50 | Xuerian | er |
| 20:10.50 | Xuerian | emotes |
| 20:10.51 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:11.01 | Xuerian | Shadaaap |
| 20:11.02 | Amadeo | A long time ago, they mainly remove them |
| 20:11.06 | Amadeo | Though a couple have changed |
| 20:11.08 | Xuerian | Long time ago how ong |
| 20:11.11 | Xuerian | PAH |
| 20:11.35 | Xuerian | How long ago did they remove them? |
| 20:11.57 | Xuerian | As in elaborate on how long is long :P |
| 20:12.04 | Amadeo | I'll show you long |
| 20:12.22 | Ellipsis | they removed the draenei "vibrating gnome" joke between tbc beta and release |
| 20:12.28 | cncfanatics | any decent ingame dkp managers ? |
| 20:12.30 | Ellipsis | saddest moment evar :( |
| 20:12.36 | Amadeo | Losing the Troll one was worse |
| 20:12.40 | Xuerian | Ahh, was a draenei one... I never heard it =X |
| 20:13.14 | Amadeo | Draenei's only play Shamans anyways! |
| 20:13.32 | Xuerian | Blood elves only play paladins :p |
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| 20:13.41 | Moozh|work | blood elf priests ftw |
| 20:13.47 | Amadeo | Boo |
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| 20:14.12 | Amadeo | Blood Elves only look good as Paladins, that's why, they're too ugly to be anything else..need to cover up with all that armor |
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| 20:14.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 20:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | mage. |
| 20:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | warlock. |
| 20:15.04 | Fisker- | http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=7940&cc=DK <-lol |
| 20:15.15 | Fisker- | CoD 4: Modern Warfare & Trade |
| 20:15.25 | Fisker- | "Hey we wanna trade these bullets for blood ke" |
| 20:15.33 | Amadeo | sag_ich_nicht: too ugly |
| 20:15.42 | Xuerian | 69.99? |
| 20:15.44 | Xuerian | what the fuck? |
| 20:15.49 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:15.52 | Amadeo | I'll show you the best thing I've ever seen in WoW |
| 20:15.58 | Xuerian | Game devs are becoming jerkoffs >.o |
| 20:16.02 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:16.03 | Fisker- | just steam |
| 20:16.11 | Fisker- | and it's only in EU |
| 20:16.14 | Fisker- | http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=7940&cc=US |
| 20:16.17 | Xuerian | Oh. haha. |
| 20:16.22 | Fisker- | doesn't say "Trade" in US either |
| 20:16.23 | Fisker- | also |
| 20:16.26 | Fisker- | it's without VAT |
| 20:16.27 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:16.35 | Poul|Raider | if not (Raider_DB.RAIDATT.ACTIVE == obj.data) then | if (not Raider_DB.RAIDATT.ACTIVE == obj.data) then anyone care to explain me why thats not the same? |
| 20:16.38 | Xuerian | VAT? Also, it says trade <.< |
| 20:16.45 | Amadeo | Best Ever -> http://i20.tinypic.com/2qsucxy.jpg |
| 20:16.47 | Fisker- | Value Added Tax |
| 20:16.54 | Xuerian | value added tax? |
| 20:16.58 | Fisker- | so it's 69.95$ + 25% |
| 20:17.05 | cncfanatics | ~seen cryogen |
| 20:17.07 | purl | cryogen <i=stu@oftc/staff/cryogen> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 10d 2h 50m 17s ago, saying: 'you need personal rating to buy shoulders or weapons'. |
| 20:17.22 | Xuerian | I take it that's where the government says "Hey, we added value to the game in that moment where you traded your money for it. pay moar" |
| 20:17.34 | Kritter | s/ 12 |
| 20:17.55 | Fisker- | nah it's because it's technically importing |
| 20:18.09 | Fisker- | i'm buying directly from the US thus it's being imported |
| 20:18.15 | Moozh|work | ha, Amadeo |
| 20:18.18 | Moozh|work | that's rich |
| 20:18.26 | Xuerian | Amadeo: lol |
| 20:18.27 | Ellipsis | lolowned |
| 20:18.28 | Xuerian | Fisker-: blah |
| 20:18.30 | Fisker- | and since that's outside the european union we need to pay VAT |
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| 20:18.58 | Xuerian | Sooooo who gets 25% of everything imported? 0_o |
| 20:19.27 | NightHawkAtWork | the government, usually. which helps subsidies of local businesses. |
| 20:19.33 | NightHawkAtWork | it's really jsut a trade tariff. |
| 20:19.42 | Xuerian | Your logic foils my highwayman logic |
| 20:19.48 | Xuerian | diaf. |
| 20:24.45 | Amadeo | I remember highwaymen in EQ |
| 20:24.55 | Amadeo | That was you? |
| 20:25.19 | NightHawkAtWork | "highway robbery? Oh, no, the highway is -miles- away, this is more like secondary access road robbery." |
| 20:25.22 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54046 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:25.22 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:25.22 | CIA-7 | -Removed some annoying debug messages |
| 20:25.24 | Moozh|work | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alterac+Mountains&n=Folgers look at the name and guild tag |
| 20:25.35 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:25.39 | hypetech | I'm guessing the guild name will be in your cup? |
| 20:25.42 | hypetech | pwnd |
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| 20:26.06 | Amadeo | He should have friends walk around him...Thebestpart Ofwakingup |
| 20:26.14 | Moozh|work | rofl |
| 20:26.39 | Amadeo | That slogan was huge for a while, they had it on TV like crazy |
| 20:26.49 | Amadeo | I don't remember the last time I've even seen a Foldgers commercial now |
| 20:26.51 | NightHawkAtWork | alternately: at least he's a mage who knows his place is just to provide drinks |
| 20:27.00 | Amadeo | -d |
| 20:27.14 | Antiarc | We have a priest in our guild named Drinks |
| 20:27.22 | Cryect | should have been a mage |
| 20:27.34 | NightHawkAtWork | my friend has an alt priest named Carouse. I told her she needed to group with a mage called Drink |
| 20:27.38 | Antiarc | Well, he chose priest because that's what he spends all his time doing |
| 20:27.59 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:28.02 | Amadeo | I hated that about my old pre-expansion/honor system Priest |
| 20:28.08 | Amadeo | We'd do those TM raids |
| 20:28.18 | Amadeo | there was some in combat bug, you could never drink |
| 20:28.21 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 20:28.28 | Amadeo | so you basically went in, healed and did some damage, and ran around for a while |
| 20:30.23 | Gnarfoz | what are random strings likely to be encoded as in XML over HTTP? got this webradio that has both shoutcast and a proprietary player, but only the player gets to have artist/title info - the webserver on the other side returns the info encoded like e.g. "532c56cfea9a83dace2eec58d3cf3febee683a8355c7f7ca" it's not base64. any ideas? :) |
| 20:31.21 | Pkekyo | huh, wonder how playing wow with a wacom pad would work :p |
| 20:31.49 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: awesome-ish? :D |
| 20:32.11 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: maybe? sounds like something I've got to try though |
| 20:32.19 | Pkekyo | s/though/atleast/ |
| 20:32.35 | Gnarfoz | cintiq only, of course - the ones with integrated display/touch surface |
| 20:32.36 | krka | looks like base 16 to me |
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| 20:32.51 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: can't afford a cintiq :< |
| 20:33.19 | Pkekyo | besides, would be too afraid to play wow on one...would prolly smash it into oblivion after the first death :p |
| 20:33.41 | krka | looks like some sort of 192-bit hash, written in hex |
| 20:33.44 | Gnarfoz | krka: that'd make sense, I guess |
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| 20:34.22 | Gnarfoz | hm, how'd I easily decode that to readable text? :< |
| 20:34.30 | krka | could be tiger |
| 20:34.36 | krka | if it's a hash - you dont |
| 20:34.40 | Gnarfoz | of course not |
| 20:34.40 | Gnarfoz | but |
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| 20:35.03 | Gnarfoz | it's just the artist name (e.g.) so it can't be a hash |
| 20:35.13 | Gnarfoz | the player has to be able to make sense of it to display it as text |
| 20:36.33 | tinyboom | Paene: ping |
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| 20:37.42 | CIA-7 | 03antiarc * r54047 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: Prevent drag-out bars while Omen window is locked. |
| 20:37.46 | krka | couldn't the artist name be sent some other way? |
| 20:38.07 | Gnarfoz | krka: it's pretty obvious that it's this way, have a look: http://player.techno4ever.net/player.xml |
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| 20:39.25 | Gnarfoz | I really don't know if they're intentionally obfuscating (because obviously, they intentionally don't display that info via ShoutCast) or if it's just a precaution to not fuck up the "well-formed"-ness of the XML with special characters |
| 20:39.36 | krka | plain hex to ascii doesn't work atleast |
| 20:40.05 | krka | couldn't it be a key into some database? |
| 20:40.55 | Gnarfoz | the player would have to know every possible artist and title locally - because there's no other traffic going on besides the actual streaming |
| 20:41.00 | _rane | is it possible with some addon to get buffs above players? |
| 20:41.05 | _rane | like adjacent to nameplates |
| 20:41.05 | Gnarfoz | (and the ads) |
| 20:41.19 | Tse | is there an ace mod like EquipCompare? |
| 20:41.22 | Gnarfoz | _rane: can't Aloft already do that? |
| 20:41.32 | _rane | Gnarfoz: i'm not sure |
| 20:41.40 | Tse | i dont think aloft can do that. lemme check |
| 20:41.44 | Gnarfoz | Tse: besides the obvious question "how would it being Ace improve anything?": EQCompare |
| 20:41.59 | Fisker- | anyone know if you can los leo and not get a demon anymore? |
| 20:42.00 | sb | is there some trick getting all NPCs into combat when fighting anetheron? |
| 20:42.06 | sb | other than kiting infernals around ;o |
| 20:42.11 | krka | Gnarfoz: you could run some cryptoanalysis on it |
| 20:42.11 | Gnarfoz | although not really up to date. I guess tekKompare would also do it nicely |
| 20:42.16 | krka | it seems it's not constant length atleast |
| 20:42.18 | Tse | gnar, the answer is: it would work and likely be up to date lol |
| 20:42.23 | krka | which implies that it's not a hash |
| 20:42.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I was getting demons all the way down the hallway yesterday, so probably no |
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| 20:43.13 | krka | Gnarfoz: here's one trick for you: |
| 20:43.15 | Gnarfoz | krka: hm. too bad their client is not open source :> |
| 20:43.21 | krka | gather some artists and titles |
| 20:43.27 | krka | split it into pairs of two digits |
| 20:43.37 | krka | count number of occurances for each combination |
| 20:43.50 | krka | let's say 3f is the letter e |
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| 20:43.59 | krka | then that might have a high frequency |
| 20:44.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know the idea |
| 20:44.10 | krka | it's probably simpler than that though |
| 20:44.19 | Gnarfoz | I'll try matching text and string |
| 20:44.30 | Gnarfoz | it's not like I can't see the plain text ;> |
| 20:45.13 | Fisker- | ok thanks Gnarfoz |
| 20:45.24 | Fisker- | also i hate you for it not being possible |
| 20:46.04 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you're welcome. I hate you for us not killing him in this same ID we first killed Karathress. |
| 20:46.14 | Gnarfoz | are we even now :> |
| 20:46.29 | Fisker- | :O |
| 20:47.11 | CIA-7 | 03antiarc * r54048 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Added Dewdrop the the X-Embeds. |
| 20:47.39 | Xuerian | Isn't tekkcompare non-ace in the first place..? |
| 20:49.04 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: it is, hence my only recommending it as the last one |
| 20:49.13 | Xuerian | Ah... |
| 20:49.23 | NightHawkAtWork | not that it ought to matter, obviously |
| 20:49.27 | Gnarfoz | (because the focus was on 'ace please' - I think it's likely the most up to date one) |
| 20:50.25 | NightHawkAtWork | well, tekkompare is pretty simple, i dont think it really needs to be that up to date :P |
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| 20:52.16 | krka | Gnarfoz: are you able to match it? |
| 20:52.22 | krka | i am curious as to how this is encoded |
| 20:52.59 | Gnarfoz | krka: not accurately, yet |
| 20:53.22 | krka | do you have any plaintext / hex-combos? |
| 20:54.03 | Gnarfoz | krka: http://ace.pastey.net/76698 |
| 20:54.51 | Gnarfoz | the hex-thingies are too long in all cases for it to be just plain ascii-as-hex |
| 20:55.06 | krka | weird stuff |
| 20:55.10 | Gnarfoz | although, possibly, the " - " between title and artist might be encoded into either one of them |
| 20:55.36 | Gnarfoz | it's not necessarily created locally by the player. although the artist and title being transmitted separately suggests that it is |
| 20:55.55 | krka | i dont really see anything simply |
| 20:55.57 | krka | simple |
| 20:56.05 | krka | i tried a simple frequency count, and it didnt really work |
| 20:56.06 | Gnarfoz | might even be a real simple symmetric encryption |
| 20:56.29 | Gnarfoz | which would serve the purpose of obfuscation effectively (enough) |
| 20:56.31 | krka | could be |
| 20:56.41 | krka | i dont get why anyone would bother though :) |
| 20:56.44 | krka | what's the clients name |
| 20:56.45 | Gnarfoz | I know: |
| 20:56.47 | Gnarfoz | money |
| 20:56.58 | Gnarfoz | they display ads in their proprietary player, to finance the webradio |
| 20:57.26 | krka | ah |
| 20:57.48 | krka | should be possible to extract the key from the player |
| 20:57.54 | krka | where can i download it? |
| 20:58.04 | Gnarfoz | gotta make sure the added features their own player has (live display of listener-sent greetings, live track/artist display, easy access without Winamp or the likes) stay there |
| 20:58.44 | krka | publicKeyToken="6595b64144ccf1df" |
| 20:58.47 | krka | found it btw |
| 20:58.48 | Gnarfoz | at http://www.techno4ever.net/t4e/player.html (http://downloads.techno4ever.net/ba34e583c6899a64dee58d2f808416aa/4730d5a7/T4E_Player_Setup.exe -- why are there session IDs in there? o_0) |
| 20:58.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i just had this realisation |
| 20:59.02 | sag_ich_nicht | about claire |
| 20:59.06 | sag_ich_nicht | she's a permanent virgin. |
| 20:59.09 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 20:59.09 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 20:59.11 | Gnarfoz | nice one sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:59.37 | many | heh |
| 20:59.44 | kenlyric | anyone realize that this is the exact same season as season 1? |
| 20:59.46 | Gnarfoz | damn, am I behind one episode o_O |
| 21:00.03 | tinyboom | nice: Ashes of Al'ar just dropped on my realm EU_Silvermoon :p |
| 21:00.11 | tinyboom | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32458 |
| 21:00.21 | Gnarfoz | krka: hm. think that's of any use? |
| 21:00.24 | kenlyric | they're gonna save the world and/or destroy it in new york by one of the two power vampires using/not using his power. |
| 21:00.32 | Tse | dag, nothing shows spell lock. sct, parrot and neither does combat announce. i wonder if it's a bug on blizz's side |
| 21:00.50 | krka | Gnarfoz: hm, no it's probably just for the nullsoft installer |
| 21:00.56 | Kerafyrm | tinyboom: who got it? |
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| 21:01.24 | chexsum | spellcast fail message ? |
| 21:01.46 | tinyboom | grim someone, checking, guild is Inner Sanctum |
| 21:01.50 | Tse | i dont see it cast spell lock or resist. only shows in combat log |
| 21:01.51 | aestil | buu: ping |
| 21:02.19 | krka | Gnarfoz: maybe it uses one of the other hex strings as a key |
| 21:02.26 | Fisker- | an heroes sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:02.27 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:02.27 | krka | like onair, or dj |
| 21:02.32 | Fisker- | "I'm adam" = win |
| 21:02.52 | krka | stfu about heroes, i haven't seen it yet |
| 21:02.54 | Gnarfoz | krka: hm. how'd that work? oO then one of those couldn't be used? |
| 21:03.12 | tinyboom | Kerafyrm: Grimmx I believe |
| 21:03.13 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warden_Iolol lmfao |
| 21:03.16 | krka | like... id could be purely used to mask the names |
| 21:03.30 | krka | could be a looping key or something |
| 21:03.44 | buu | AEESTIL WHAT DO YOU WANT |
| 21:04.41 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: that guy will fuck you up if you ride through that village. |
| 21:04.52 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: o'rly? |
| 21:04.59 | kenlyric | he's like super duper elite. |
| 21:05.03 | kenlyric | one-shotted my hunter. |
| 21:05.14 | Pkekyo | wicked |
| 21:05.25 | buu | But you deserved it. |
| 21:05.52 | aestil | buu: http://wowjutsu.com/us/darkspear/ |
| 21:05.52 | kenlyric | yeah, I tried a shortcut unstead of going around the giant gulch. |
| 21:05.57 | aestil | :D |
| 21:06.06 | kenlyric | nothing close happens to alliance when they go through horde village. |
| 21:06.17 | buu | aestil: Fucking disgusting. |
| 21:06.28 | chexsum | i went there when i was grinding nagrand :( |
| 21:06.34 | chexsum | i thought they were friends |
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| 21:06.39 | krka | Gnarfoz: can you give me a dump of what's playing now? |
| 21:06.45 | vithos | what about that group of insanely fast wolf riders? |
| 21:06.52 | NeoTron | kenlyric: the elites in the horde village in nagrad are evil |
| 21:06.53 | krka | i need to grab the player xml and test against known values |
| 21:07.01 | vithos | that ganks alliance for being on a road that goes through your village |
| 21:07.05 | Gnarfoz | krka: Vorwerk - Cambodia (EXtendened MiX) |
| 21:07.07 | NeoTron | kenlyric: not to mention the super fast wolf riders that run around and pwn alliance |
| 21:07.15 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, just changed :| |
| 21:07.25 | kenlyric | yes, but you can go around them :) |
| 21:07.29 | kenlyric | horde town is fairly open. |
| 21:07.32 | Gnarfoz | krka: got another idea first |
| 21:07.32 | aestil | buu: killed first 2 HS in first night. |
| 21:07.42 | NeoTron | the horde town is like right in the path |
| 21:07.43 | buu | aestil: Gaaaaaah |
| 21:07.47 | NeoTron | have to swim to get around it |
| 21:07.47 | kenlyric | you've got essentially one path through allaince town, though I migh thave to try again to see if I can divert. |
| 21:07.48 | buu | Don't tell me that. |
| 21:07.49 | NeoTron | pretty much |
| 21:07.50 | Gnarfoz | krka: dj and either id or onair should never change. |
| 21:07.56 | aestil | buu: literally 1 shot first boss |
| 21:07.58 | vithos | kenlyric: probably because they're too busy defending the rest of nagrand. |
| 21:08.01 | kenlyric | nah, just jump in and ride through. easysauce. |
| 21:08.07 | Gnarfoz | at least not for another 2 hours or so. if they do, then we know it's not the same "key" every time around |
| 21:08.07 | buu | aestil: I am so fucking depressed. |
| 21:08.17 | Ozguli | oh THOSE wolf riders |
| 21:08.25 | krka | id should never change? |
| 21:08.31 | aestil | buu: buy a pvp transferable lock :) |
| 21:08.39 | buu | aestil: Huh? |
| 21:08.46 | Gnarfoz | krka: dj is obvious, it's who's the DJ right now, either 'id' or 'onair' is the name of the current "show" |
| 21:08.49 | aestil | come to the alliance side. :) |
| 21:08.54 | buu | Oh, heh. |
| 21:08.57 | krka | right |
| 21:09.03 | krka | can you find anything that changes with each song? |
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| 21:09.10 | Gnarfoz | title and artist |
| 21:09.11 | buu | =[ |
| 21:09.13 | NeoTron | excited for this week |
| 21:09.15 | krka | except those :) |
| 21:09.17 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:09.18 | NeoTron | full week (4 nights) of tier 6 |
| 21:09.24 | NeoTron | not going to do any attunement runs this week |
| 21:09.26 | buu | I fucking hate all of you. |
| 21:09.31 | Kerafyrm | ... |
| 21:09.37 | buu | Maybe I can transfer to hammered. |
| 21:10.12 | Gnarfoz | krka: 'time' right at the top. also problematic: the player polls. so I might miss transitions and give false hex/plain combos |
| 21:10.31 | krka | sure, but they dont change very often, right? |
| 21:10.33 | NeoTron | aestil: horde camp bosses => much harder than alliance |
| 21:10.44 | aestil | thats what we hear. |
| 21:10.46 | krka | hm... could be a block encryption i suppose |
| 21:10.51 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 21:10.54 | Gnarfoz | krka: yeah not that often |
| 21:10.54 | NeoTron | hardesr trash and harder camp to manage (it's larger) |
| 21:10.58 | aestil | but... we killed KT? |
| 21:10.58 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yes love? |
| 21:10.59 | Fisker- | how do we shot warlock-warrior transition |
| 21:11.08 | aestil | so, yeah, i think we'll be ok eventually. after we learn it. |
| 21:11.44 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: how's that complicated? :> he wipes aggro when he transforms, let the warrior build aggro right then? |
| 21:11.57 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you can't melee him in demon form |
| 21:12.09 | NeoTron | searing totem ftw |
| 21:12.12 | chexsum | tse, some combat events changed in 2.0 and theyre not in Parser-4.0 so that might be why its not showing them :P |
| 21:13.00 | sag_ich_nicht | well someone fix that |
| 21:13.00 | Tse | interesting. how can i check this or try to update? is that a lib? |
| 21:13.00 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: that's also very nice for after whirlwinds. not so much use after demon form, he's locked in one spot during demon form anyway |
| 21:13.01 | chexsum | its changing SPELLCAST_* to UNIT_SPELLCAST_* |
| 21:13.01 | Obelix | got a cowtiip/dogtag question |
| 21:13.02 | Obelix | [PVP?Name:Green!Name:White] |
| 21:13.25 | Obelix | does that mean (PVP and Name) Or Green Not (Name Or White)? |
| 21:13.36 | Obelix | or |
| 21:13.45 | Fisker- | hmm Gnarfoz |
| 21:13.53 | chexsum | you can probably change parser locally and if it works suggest a patch |
| 21:13.53 | Fisker- | here he sticks to the lock |
| 21:14.00 | Gnarfoz | krka: only track and artist change - everything else stays the same (besides the greetings and stuff obviously) |
| 21:14.12 | Fisker- | and we're not talking dots |
| 21:14.12 | chexsum | all the old events are in parser-4 |
| 21:14.21 | Fisker- | cause it sticks to the whirlwind begins |
| 21:14.47 | hypetech | anybody have experience hosting ventrilo servers by chance? |
| 21:14.48 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: have the warlock *stop* spamming searing pain? :D |
| 21:15.01 | Fisker- | that's exactly what he's not doing |
| 21:15.10 | buu | Fisker-: That might be your problem. |
| 21:15.17 | Fisker- | doh |
| 21:15.21 | Fisker- | that's exactly what he IS doing |
| 21:15.22 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:15.30 | Fisker- | got ownt by english |
| 21:15.31 | Ellipsis | sorry was replying to an email |
| 21:15.34 | Tse | <chexsum> you can probably change parser locally and if it works suggest a patch <--- ill try to figure this out right now |
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| 21:15.55 | Gnarfoz | seriously, I can't imagine any way how it that change could be difficult to handle, besides broken aggro wipes |
| 21:16.11 | chexsum | shouldnt be to hard |
| 21:16.13 | Gnarfoz | it's likely the easiest part of the whole encounter |
| 21:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:15] * Ellipsis anti-pokes sag_ich_nicht <--mhm, depending on what i poked you with and what you use for anti-poking, that could work. |
| 21:16.58 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 21:19.44 | Tse | ok, so i see /libs for parrot and the ace2 folder. which do i change? |
| 21:19.49 | buu | Somewhere there must be a guild not made of fail. |
| 21:20.21 | hypetech | buu: what are you looking for? |
| 21:20.22 | Cryect | All guilds have something wrong with them, its just human nature |
| 21:20.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Tse first you change your installation to unembedded. |
| 21:21.58 | chexsum | tse, you need to know lua to change it |
| 21:22.25 | Tse | i was just gonna randomly type shit, eventually get it n stuff |
| 21:22.38 | NeoTron | there's no way the lock can retain aggro unless he doesn't stop his DPS |
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| 21:23.01 | NeoTron | dots, searing pain or heck even shadow bolts (since he'll have no salv) |
| 21:24.04 | Gnarfoz | the warrior/druid should be easily able to out-TPS the warlock |
| 21:24.21 | Gnarfoz | ok, maybe not when he keeps on spamming SP |
| 21:24.28 | Gnarfoz | but you get the picture |
| 21:24.39 | Fisker- | NeoTron he casts dots in the start and then only uses searing pain |
| 21:24.42 | Fisker- | and he stops casting it |
| 21:24.45 | Fisker- | when he shifts |
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| 21:25.04 | Mudkips | leo? |
| 21:25.04 | Fisker- | with our tanking standing there for half a million years trying to get him back |
| 21:25.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:25.14 | Mudkips | curse of doom yo |
| 21:25.30 | buu | hypetech: Progression,. |
| 21:26.30 | CIA-7 | 03pb_ee1 * r54049 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/Core.lua: SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: Removing unused data in Core.lua. |
| 21:27.11 | buu | But darkspear is made of so much fail. |
| 21:27.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: tried another tank? maybe he's just doing "*taunt* - "well, that didn't work" - "hmmm it's on CD..." - *taunt* - "damnit!" |
| 21:27.32 | RaydenUni | what stats does a pre KZ mage need? |
| 21:27.51 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: anyway, no good advice besides the obvious. it's like a fresh pull, tanks should have no problem getting the aggro |
| 21:27.53 | NeoTron | again though it's clearly a threat wipe |
| 21:28.15 | NeoTron | another thing to consider is PoM / earth shield / lifebloom |
| 21:28.20 | NeoTron | but I doubt that'd be the cause |
| 21:29.01 | ramoz | Fisker-: he has to time the CoD correctly |
| 21:30.45 | NeoTron | I doubt any lock would eb stupid enough to time the CoD to happen right after he LEAVES demon form |
| 21:31.17 | ramoz | no |
| 21:31.22 | RaydenUni | hey guys what stats does a mage care about when beginning to raid? int, spell hit, spell dmg, and crit but in what order? |
| 21:31.22 | Cryect | theyd o if they are tanking |
| 21:31.35 | Mudkips | zomg |
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| 21:31.40 | ramoz | i think its 4 seconds in to the normal phase i think |
| 21:31.44 | Fisker- | haha Gnarfoz nah |
| 21:31.52 | durcyn | ramoz: crit, damage, hit, int |
| 21:32.00 | RaydenUni | in that order? |
| 21:32.02 | Fisker- | but anyways |
| 21:32.03 | ramoz | durcyn: i didnt ask, also, fail |
| 21:32.06 | durcyn | er RaydenUni |
| 21:32.08 | durcyn | tab completio nwins |
| 21:32.11 | RaydenUni | they don't need +hit first? |
| 21:32.14 | Fisker- | Warrior to Warlock transition is smooth |
| 21:32.16 | ramoz | hit cap omg |
| 21:32.20 | Fisker- | it's just warlock to warrior that has problems |
| 21:32.26 | RaydenUni | how much hit to cap for a mage? |
| 21:32.31 | Gnarfoz | which... is weird Fisker- ^^ |
| 21:32.33 | ramoz | 16% |
| 21:32.37 | durcyn | Fisker-: buh, misdirect |
| 21:32.37 | ramoz | Fisker-: kek? |
| 21:32.37 | Tse | where should i post this potential bug about parser lib? |
| 21:32.52 | durcyn | it's 16% for all casters, but elemental precision and whatever the hell that arcane talent is.. |
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| 21:33.28 | RaydenUni | so without the talent you need 384 hit? |
| 21:33.50 | RaydenUni | no |
| 21:33.53 | RaydenUni | how many +hit is 1%? |
| 21:33.59 | RaydenUni | i thought it was 24 but that can't be right |
| 21:33.59 | NightHawkAtWork | its on wowwiki |
| 21:34.01 | NightHawkAtWork | look it up |
| 21:34.06 | Nefarion | what talent? |
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| 21:34.53 | Orionshock | morning |
| 21:34.54 | chexsum | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=23.0 is the libraries forum - i couldnt see one for LibParser-4.0 |
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| 21:35.19 | Tse | ill post something generic there about this issue. maybe somebody will pick up on it |
| 21:35.33 | RaydenUni | no specific talent |
| 21:35.39 | Tse | EavesDrop didnt see it either |
| 21:35.42 | RaydenUni | i know spriests have a talent that give +10% hit |
| 21:35.44 | RaydenUni | which is nice |
| 21:35.47 | Tse | so you're prolly right about the parser thing |
| 21:36.27 | chexsum | even parserlib would need updated |
| 21:36.37 | Chompers | Fisker- COD4 :o |
| 21:36.40 | Chompers | gogo |
| 21:36.48 | Fisker- | no :( |
| 21:37.01 | Chompers | rzr-cod4 |
| 21:37.02 | Fisker- | 90$ here |
| 21:37.07 | Fisker- | fuck that |
| 21:37.10 | Cryect | haha |
| 21:37.10 | Chompers | yes...moneyz |
| 21:37.11 | Fisker- | i'll only buy it for MP |
| 21:37.30 | krka | Gnarfoz: i am beginning to suspect it's actually encrypted |
| 21:37.52 | krka | you'd need to extract the key from the client and figure out which encryption scheme it is |
| 21:38.03 | Gnarfoz | krka: as good a guess as any, and also easy to do, so it's likely |
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| 21:38.29 | chexsum | time to refresh your asm skills ? |
| 21:39.54 | NimbleRabit | is there any way to make it so pitbull always shows up as if you are in a party even if you are in a raid? |
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| 21:40.17 | hypetech | yes |
| 21:40.43 | NimbleRabit | 0o ok... how |
| 21:41.26 | NightHawkAtWork | it's in the options. look closer. |
| 21:42.10 | chexsum | all ive seen is an option to do that when theres only 5 people in the raid |
| 21:42.25 | Gnarfoz | krka: strings doesn't return anything useful. I guess I'm out of options, besides actually debugging the thing while it's running (no idea how effective that is with .net apps) |
| 21:42.26 | Nefarion | so enable that and disable your raid frames altogether |
| 21:42.28 | NimbleRabit | yup.. all I see is the 5man party one |
| 21:42.29 | Nefarion | =/ |
| 21:42.43 | NimbleRabit | done and done |
| 21:43.01 | NimbleRabit | btw, this isn't nimble... I am using his comp 0o |
| 21:43.48 | Nefarion | hax |
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| 21:50.36 | Fisker- | anyone got the threat multiplier on searing pain? |
| 21:51.38 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r54050 10AceProfitFu/: |
| 21:51.38 | CIA-7 | AceProfitFu: |
| 21:51.38 | CIA-7 | - oops, we do need DewDrop |
| 21:51.56 | JoshBorke | AceProfitFu? |
| 21:52.02 | JoshBorke | someone needs to tell him to take out the Ace |
| 21:52.37 | CIA-7 | 03kaybe * r54051 10Klappa/ (9 files): |
| 21:52.37 | CIA-7 | Klappa: |
| 21:52.37 | CIA-7 | -now using action ids |
| 21:52.37 | CIA-7 | -added multiple bars |
| 21:52.37 | CIA-7 | -a lot more |
| 21:53.05 | dashkal | How stable is flexbar these days? (As compared to how it was pre 2.0) |
| 21:54.33 | durcyn | it's about as stable as cncfanatics is mentally stable.. nevermind. |
| 21:54.39 | CIA-7 | 03xska * r54052 10AceProfitFu/AceProfitFu.toc: |
| 21:54.39 | CIA-7 | AceProfitFu: |
| 21:54.39 | CIA-7 | - oops, we do need DewDrop |
| 21:54.55 | dashkal | *shudder* ok, so likely to asplode at any moment. gotcha :p |
| 21:54.56 | Fisker- | arh Gnarfoz |
| 21:55.08 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: arrr? |
| 21:55.36 | Fisker- | it was teh lies |
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| 21:56.02 | Nefarion | Informant uses the API GetSellValue, right? |
| 21:56.36 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: what was? :) |
| 21:56.38 | Tse | woah, a RESIST on spell lock showed up on SCT but not spell locks lol |
| 21:56.55 | kd3 | Nefarion, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue |
| 21:56.57 | Cryect | sounds like an event is missed |
| 21:57.15 | Nefarion | does sct use parser? |
| 21:57.19 | Tse | ya, i just posted on the forum about it. if i had any clue how to help fix it i would try |
| 21:57.23 | Fisker- | i just checked to make sure |
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| 21:57.33 | Fisker- | before i asked him if he used dots he used dots |
| 21:57.35 | Cryect | SCT used ParserLib-3.0 in the past |
| 21:57.36 | Fisker- | and after he didn't |
| 21:57.41 | Fisker- | and then the problem was gone |
| 21:57.43 | Fisker- | ... |
| 21:57.46 | Tse | eavesdrop, sct and parrot all missing spell lock and devour magic |
| 21:58.23 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: don't go making a kill out of this, though, I want to be ahead of you in progress ;D |
| 21:58.41 | Diao | i think it's just your client Tse |
| 21:58.47 | Diao | parrot shows spell lock fine for me |
| 21:58.52 | Tse | currently? |
| 21:58.54 | Cryect | those are pet resists, so sounds like they might not be setup right? |
| 21:58.59 | Diao | it did as of yesterday during arena |
| 21:59.03 | Tse | wtf |
| 21:59.13 | Nefarion | wow i think i just realized i spend too much time on the computer... i was looking for a word on a page in my notebook and i seriously considered hitting ctrl-f to do a search for it. |
| 21:59.19 | Diao | lol |
| 21:59.25 | Xuerian | ParserLib-3.0 catches all calls to 1.0 |
| 21:59.29 | Tse | so, how could my client be borked? |
| 21:59.34 | Xuerian | Therefore svt also uses PL3.0 |
| 21:59.43 | Fisker- | "¤214214 |
| 21:59.50 | Xuerian | Nefarion: If only |
| 21:59.52 | Fisker- | we're done Gnarfoz |
| 22:00.03 | Fisker- | we've gotten him to 41-43ish % though |
| 22:00.24 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: nice. our best was 33%, that was the first and only night we had, this ID |
| 22:00.26 | Tse | all my files are updated |
| 22:00.32 | Cryect | Nefarion: haha |
| 22:00.40 | Fisker- | I want to kill my action bar as well as people not using incoming heals |
| 22:00.51 | Fisker- | some guy was ressing a dead guy which i didn't see |
| 22:01.18 | Fisker- | and awesome timing made it so i accidently hit my Divine intervention button instead of ressurection |
| 22:01.22 | Fisker- | the exact moment he got up :( |
| 22:01.30 | Gnarfoz | we've just switched to raiding SSC all 3 nights we've got, so next ID (starting tomorrow) we'll have one night to kill maybe hydross through morogrim, then one for karathress (only the 2nd kill) and then leo. and another whole night for leo. should be doable ^^ |
| 22:01.59 | JoshBorke | Cryect: get me into a better guild than i'm in :-( |
| 22:02.05 | JoshBorke | does imp have an alt gild? |
| 22:02.09 | Fisker- | well our guild is kinda screwed |
| 22:02.17 | Fisker- | a national guild + a lot of members recently left |
| 22:02.18 | Cryect | no |
| 22:02.21 | Tse | hmm, i removed old ace library and turned off sct |
| 22:02.24 | Cryect | Alts are in the main guild |
| 22:02.25 | Fisker- | so it's hard to get replacements |
| 22:02.27 | Nefarion | spyglass is broken, right? are there any working inspect addons? |
| 22:02.30 | Tse | and removed savedvar for parrot |
| 22:02.32 | Fisker- | at the moment we're even only 1 paladin for raids |
| 22:03.16 | Cryect | Imps just farming so they are a boring guild anyways |
| 22:03.35 | JoshBorke | i just want to see all the encounters |
| 22:03.51 | Cryect | goto WCM and watch videos :-p |
| 22:03.58 | JoshBorke | i hate you :-P |
| 22:04.04 | Tse | and i still dont see spell lock on parrot =( |
| 22:04.14 | Cryect | the fun in the encoutners is the learning them not the seeing them |
| 22:04.26 | Gnarfoz | Nefarion: I use 'Examiner' - dunno if there's any Ace addons that do nearly the same in terms of features |
| 22:04.41 | Nefarion | how good is it? |
| 22:04.46 | JoshBorke | true, but i learn when i do the encounter :-d |
| 22:04.49 | JoshBorke | which is the fun part |
| 22:05.00 | Cryect | No the fun part is the wiping part ;) |
| 22:05.01 | Cryect | :-p |
| 22:05.05 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 22:05.11 | Tse | can the parser-4 in one addon undermine it in another? |
| 22:05.13 | Paene | you're sadistic |
| 22:05.18 | Gnarfoz | quite good, I'd say, it has caching, stat accumulation, free-view models, toggleable items/modes/stats etc |
| 22:05.34 | Nefarion | awesome, i'll check it out. thanks. |
| 22:05.48 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: also screaming mindless weird utterings of joy on voice chat on the first kill |
| 22:06.29 | Cryect | Hmmmm since Hydross haven't really done that |
| 22:06.29 | CIA-7 | 03julith * r54053 10GoodTargetAce/ (. GoodTargetAce.lua GoodTargetAce.toc): |
| 22:06.29 | CIA-7 | GoodTargetAce: initial commit |
| 22:06.29 | CIA-7 | - This addon is mainly written for Tanks but can be useful for other classes |
| 22:06.29 | CIA-7 | too. It shows a little frame which displays a "Good" if your current target is |
| 22:06.29 | CIA-7 | targeting you, otherwise it will display the name of your targets target. |
| 22:06.38 | Obelix | question: should i install addons with externals or without? |
| 22:06.39 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: I miss superinspect's better stat comparison. Examiner only has either stats or comparison. No side-by-side |
| 22:06.40 | Obelix | using wau |
| 22:06.51 | Diao | examiner has side by side now doesn't it? |
| 22:06.52 | Diao | o_o |
| 22:07.16 | Diao | oh wait no |
| 22:07.19 | Diao | it's gear comparison |
| 22:07.32 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: yeah, SI was nice, but it's quite broken by now |
| 22:07.33 | Diao | To compare one person's gear with another, you can mark a target for compare on the Config page. When you have done this, the Stats page will no longer show the actual stats of your inspected person, but will instead show the difference in stats compared to the person you marked for compare. |
| 22:07.55 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: Kael'Thas? Illidan? there have to be more difficult encounters than Hydross that justify stuff like that on the first kill^^ |
| 22:09.13 | Tse | i turned off every mod but for parrot and it still wont show spell lock. what should i try next? |
| 22:10.00 | Tse | diao, do you have latest versions of everything? |
| 22:10.09 | Xuerian | Diao: Yeah, exactly |
| 22:10.16 | Kazie | You guys know how to move the pvp objectives by standard? .. or which addons that might be able to do it? .. maybe an extention to SimpleMinimap? .. seen a version of that be able to do it :s |
| 22:10.19 | Diao | yea i use WAU once a day to keep my addons up to date |
| 22:10.45 | Tse | then this makes no sense |
| 22:10.46 | Ellipsis | Kazie: the capture bar? smm should do that |
| 22:10.56 | Kazie | not that |
| 22:11.02 | Kazie | Not the one below the minimap |
| 22:11.16 | Ellipsis | well if it's not anchored to the minimap, smm won't mess with it |
| 22:11.16 | Kazie | It's the pvp objectives in middle of the screen |
| 22:11.26 | Kazie | Like Alliance: 2 towers Horde: 1 tower etc. etc. |
| 22:11.26 | Ellipsis | that one you'll need a PvP addon for |
| 22:11.34 | Kazie | ahh okay |
| 22:12.09 | Kazie | Do you know which one might work ? .. i've seen a version work with SimpleMinimap. when i lock that i locked the pvp-objectives/durability frame/Quest minion etc. |
| 22:12.27 | Ellipsis | I don't use PvP addons, sorry |
| 22:12.32 | Ellipsis | I don't PvP for that matter :P |
| 22:12.56 | Kazie | hehe :) np |
| 22:13.00 | Paene | Kazie: MoveAnything would probably let you do it...if it's still around |
| 22:13.03 | Ellipsis | the only PvP-related thing smm moves is the flag capture progress bar because that's anchored to the minimap by default |
| 22:13.31 | Diao | WorldStateScoreFrame |
| 22:13.32 | Diao | i think |
| 22:13.51 | Fisker- | anyone got a link to the WAU publish? |
| 22:13.53 | buu | I used SMM to move those frames, and now they're gone! |
| 22:14.03 | Kazie | hmm.. but how? :) |
| 22:14.10 | RaydenUni | is there any reason for shadow priests to collect spirit shards? |
| 22:14.16 | Kazie | pvp ring |
| 22:14.21 | Ellipsis | I really wish Blizz wouldn't reuse PvP frames for PvE stuff >_> |
| 22:14.23 | Kazie | besides that.. no |
| 22:14.24 | Diao | use vizor2 |
| 22:14.25 | Gagorian | Kazie: I use FluidFrames |
| 22:14.27 | Diao | and vizor2gui |
| 22:14.31 | Diao | to permanently move a frame |
| 22:14.34 | Ellipsis | RaydenUni: maybe if you have a helm with a meta socket |
| 22:14.44 | Gagorian | Kazie: To exactly move that same frame |
| 22:14.52 | Kazie | I'll try those.. ty :) |
| 22:14.59 | RaydenUni | so no |
| 22:15.05 | RaydenUni | there is nothing i can do with my spirit shards |
| 22:15.06 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 22:15.12 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: why create the extra frames though? :P |
| 22:15.24 | CIA-7 | 03julith * r54054 10GoodTargetAce/: |
| 22:15.24 | CIA-7 | GoodTargetAce: |
| 22:15.24 | CIA-7 | - added externals |
| 22:15.47 | Ellipsis | so I don't have to download an everything-you'll-ever-need-to-PvP piece of crap just so I can see progress in BM? |
| 22:15.51 | Ellipsis | :P |
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| 22:16.27 | Cryect | whats wrong with the default blizzard frames? |
| 22:16.33 | Diao | i just said |
| 22:16.36 | Cryect | or they hidden by your UI? |
| 22:16.39 | Ellipsis | well, at the moment it's behind my unit frames |
| 22:16.45 | Diao | you can move the pvp objectives frame |
| 22:16.47 | Cryect | so get moveanything or something and move them |
| 22:16.50 | Diao | using vizor2 |
| 22:16.55 | Diao | the frame name is WorldStateScoreFrame |
| 22:16.56 | Diao | :\ |
| 22:17.02 | Nefarion | its not blizz's fault that your UFs are there =P |
| 22:17.13 | Ellipsis | sigh :P |
| 22:17.25 | Ellipsis | I will not download an entire addon for two lines of text on my screen |
| 22:17.34 | Ellipsis | if it continues to bother me I'll write a little script to do it myself |
| 22:18.16 | Diao | visor is like |
| 22:18.21 | Diao | less than 10kb |
| 22:18.22 | Diao | lol |
| 22:18.31 | Nefarion | umm, make the frame...what's it called |
| 22:18.39 | Nefarion | so the game saves its position in layout.txt |
| 22:18.43 | Ellipsis | Diao: visor is a lot more than I want or need |
| 22:18.53 | Ellipsis | I don't like dead code, no matter how small it is |
| 22:19.22 | Fisker- | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 22:19.25 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 5h 36s ago, saying: '<-- moving to the east coast this week'. |
| 22:20.12 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: he was on a little earlier from work |
| 22:20.25 | Ellipsis | also, make your nick not start with the same 3 letters as fishbot2. it's annoying. :P |
| 22:20.39 | Xelopheris | An SV file just popped up in an error message? O_o |
| 22:21.00 | Diao | well i was addressing Kazie anyway |
| 22:21.06 | Cryect | did wow crash while it was saving? |
| 22:21.13 | Cryect | can end up with "corrupted" sv files |
| 22:21.53 | Cryect | hehe |
| 22:22.03 | Cryect | definately helps to define a capture |
| 22:22.08 | Kazie | Diao: Did you say the frame was called WorldStateScoreFrame? |
| 22:22.28 | Ellipsis | Xuerian: fail |
| 22:22.39 | Xuerian | Ellipsis: I know o_x |
| 22:22.42 | Diao | either that or WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
| 22:22.45 | Diao | one of the two |
| 22:22.49 | Xelopheris | definitely corrupted my SV file. I lost all my assessment logs >< |
| 22:23.01 | Xelopheris | No more showing a feral druid in tanking gear as 9th DPS on Shade of akama to embarass the warlocks |
| 22:23.15 | Cryect | heh |
| 22:23.37 | Mudkips | those are pretty crappy warlocks |
| 22:24.17 | Xelopheris | nah, I had thirty omen of clarity procs |
| 22:24.28 | Ellipsis | omen of lulz |
| 22:25.40 | Mudkips | 30? |
| 22:25.58 | Mudkips | sounds like lie-sammich |
| 22:26.04 | Kazie | Diao: It says that it's not managing any details for niether WorldStateScoreFrame or WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame :s |
| 22:26.09 | Poul|Raider | doh, cant find it on wowwiki, but aint there some :SetLocked(true) for buttons to lock it = |
| 22:28.06 | Diao | are you using visor2? |
| 22:28.39 | Diao | because it's not included by default |
| 22:28.42 | Diao | but you can add a new frame |
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| 22:37.02 | NightHawkAtWork | haha "A 34-company committee couldn’t create a successful ham sandwich, much less a mobile application suite." |
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| 22:38.03 | Fisker- | anyone know if there's a path set for the "Local Settings" folder in Windows? |
| 22:38.14 | CIA-7 | 03nimbal * r54055 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (4 files): |
| 22:38.14 | CIA-7 | Buffalo2 (branch): |
| 22:38.14 | CIA-7 | * Fixed an issue with overflowing containers |
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| 22:39.35 | JoshBorke | oh heys, anyone mind creating a toon on Stormreaver to sign my charter? ^_^ |
| 22:40.35 | Ellipsis | eh, why not |
| 22:40.44 | Ellipsis | alliance or horde? |
| 22:40.45 | JoshBorke | i'm in northshire abbey to make it easy :_D |
| 22:40.47 | Ellipsis | kk |
| 22:40.57 | RaydenUni | i've never heard of that place |
| 22:40.59 | RaydenUni | must be alliance |
| 22:41.05 | Ellipsis | ~fail RaydenUni |
| 22:41.06 | purl | RaydenUni: Fail. |
| 22:41.08 | JoshBorke | alliance :-D |
| 22:41.16 | RaydenUni | alliance = smelly |
| 22:41.32 | Diao | it's human starting zone |
| 22:42.14 | Nefarion | it's that starting point of months of epic failure to come |
| 22:42.18 | Nefarion | =) |
| 22:42.19 | JoshBorke | love the name |
| 22:42.25 | JoshBorke | qpkftgzdblaz |
| 22:43.00 | Ellipsis | freaking everything is taken on this realm |
| 22:43.04 | ulic | still need another Sig? |
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| 22:43.09 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 22:43.14 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm quite a few short |
| 22:47.50 | CIA-7 | 03scythxiii * r54058 10cyCircled_simpleSphere/: |
| 22:47.50 | CIA-7 | cyCircled_simpleSphere: |
| 22:47.50 | CIA-7 | - Mainly a test commit. |
| 22:48.07 | JoshBorke | thank you guys |
| 22:48.09 | ulic | isn't there a sandbox for test commits |
| 22:48.16 | ulic | need another, got ulicqel logging in :) |
| 22:48.48 | ulic | boo, won't let me sign on same account :( |
| 22:50.13 | JoshBorke | thanks guys! i got them all! |
| 22:50.48 | Nefarion | anyone by chance know of some other games that have large open ui communities that i can steal some ideas for wow from? |
| 22:51.12 | Nefarion | or games that have nice uis? |
| 22:51.17 | Ellipsis | aww, my nublock died :( |
| 22:51.34 | Ellipsis | and I wanted to get my imp so I could win teh duelz |
| 22:51.50 | JoshBorke | really appreciate it guys (and gals) |
| 22:51.55 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 22:53.10 | Obelix | Nefarion: I don't really know. I knew some people who were Systems Design Engineering undergrad and they chose WoW for one of their design courses to analyse the UI |
| 22:53.29 | MentalPower | Nefarion: Cairenn is the bette person to ask, but I think anything that has a MMOI website has an active UI community, tho WoW is the most open by far |
| 22:53.37 | MentalPower | s/bette/better/ |
| 22:53.41 | Nefarion | I just want some ideas outsideof the same community i've already regulared for so long. |
| 22:53.56 | Obelix | Oblivion is pretty heavily modded |
| 22:53.58 | Arrowmaster | wow is the only one i know of that you can do more than just changing the look |
| 22:54.28 | Nefarion | one more question: can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial for making somewhat realistic looking icicles and molded ice and snow piles? |
| 22:54.34 | Nefarion | in GIMP |
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| 22:57.27 | Tse | so, anybody got ideas on what i should try next? ive got nothing loaded but bongos and parrot, and parrot still wont show spell lock. i removed saved variables and everuthing |
| 23:01.13 | Ellipsis | did you check your settings? |
| 23:01.23 | Ellipsis | maybe pet abilities aren't enabled by default or something |
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| 23:01.35 | Gperdumonpass797 | Hi |
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| 23:04.30 | Gperdumonpass797 | i have a problem |
| 23:04.44 | Ellipsis | cool |
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| 23:05.21 | Gperdumonpass797 | when i install cartographer minig the game give me an error he don't want to load it |
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| 23:05.33 | Gperdumonpass797 | i'm not sure how install it |
| 23:05.43 | Ellipsis | what is the error? |
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| 23:05.51 | Gperdumonpass797 | so have you any tuto or can explain me |
| 23:06.03 | Gperdumonpass797 | i look |
| 23:06.53 | Xelopheris | who's good with dogtags? |
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| 23:07.21 | Gperdumonpass797 | 7452: attempt to list global |
| 23:07.45 | Ellipsis | which global is it attempting to index |
| 23:07.48 | Gperdumonpass797 | 'catographer data' (a nil value) |
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| 23:08.15 | Gperdumonpass797 | the folder to mining.lua |
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| 23:09.17 | Gperdumonpass797 | i just put the file mining.lua in modules.xml |
| 23:09.40 | Ellipsis | why didn't you install it like a normal addon? |
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| 23:10.02 | Gperdumonpass797 | ok i try |
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| 23:10.54 | Nefarion | Xelopheris: what do you need to do? |
| 23:11.06 | Tse | [061107:18:01] <Ellipsis> did you check your settings? |
| 23:11.06 | Tse | [061107:18:01] <Ellipsis> maybe pet abilities aren't enabled by default or something |
| 23:11.11 | mattswell | is there any way to differentiate bleeding edge from release quality on files.wowace.com? |
| 23:11.17 | Tse | ^ im double checking with a fresh WTF folder install |
| 23:11.56 | Ellipsis | mattswell: yeah, bleeding edge is on files.wowace.com, release quality is on other websites |
| 23:11.56 | CIA-7 | 03rodrick * r54060 10NazGuildRecruiter/: |
| 23:11.56 | CIA-7 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 23:11.56 | CIA-7 | - Set externals |
| 23:12.00 | mattswell | i've been using bleeding edge on files.wowace.com for a while and everything is generally alright, but autobar sucks atm bleeding edge :D |
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| 23:12.27 | Gperdumonpass797 | thanx that work |
| 23:12.40 | JoshBorke | apparently relog just doesn't work :-p |
| 23:13.50 | Cryect | It should kinda work but its sure not in a usable state :-p |
| 23:14.55 | Cryect | Relog help made me hate in Lua not being able to define my data structures in a way thats easy to work with and doesn't consume high amounts of space for small amounts of data |
| 23:15.34 | JoshBorke | attempt to index Table a nil value as soon as you log in :-P |
| 23:15.41 | Stanzilla | that so sounds like NaziGuildRecruiter |
| 23:16.27 | Cryect | Stanzilla, I was thinking the same thing |
| 23:16.47 | mattswell | i've been looking for an addon to replace book of the dead, anyone know of one? |
| 23:16.50 | Cryect | JoshBorke, heh bet its trying to do something with a table thats not been created :-p |
| 23:17.06 | Gperdumonpass797 | can we find a data base for cartographer_mining? |
| 23:17.12 | CIA-7 | 03stormfx * r54061 10cyCircled/plugins/Klappa.lua: |
| 23:17.12 | CIA-7 | cyCircled: |
| 23:17.12 | CIA-7 | - Klappa Udate (Kaybe) |
| 23:22.27 | Tse | i found no settings in parrot specific to the pet |
| 23:23.30 | Gperdumonpass797 | do you know if i can find a data base of coordonate to mining? |
| 23:24.02 | Gperdumonpass797 | for cartographer |
| 23:24.18 | Nefarion | search http://wowace.com/forums for wowhead |
| 23:24.29 | Nefarion | oh wait.. |
| 23:24.36 | Nefarion | download cartographer_data |
| 23:24.46 | Nefarion | files.wowace.com |
| 23:25.03 | Gperdumonpass797 | thanks |
| 23:25.23 | mattswell | ow |
| 23:25.32 | mattswell | the default colorings for LUA in textmate blow |
| 23:25.47 | Xelopheris | get notepad++, lua colorings are decent |
| 23:26.10 | Nefarion | notepad++ ftw |
| 23:26.47 | Xelopheris | Nefarion, dogtags, can I do MissingHP:IsGreater(MaxHP/20) ? |
| 23:26.50 | Speeddymon | whats going on with fisheye? i havent been able to load changelogs in wau from it in 3 days |
| 23:26.59 | Speeddymon | nm it just came up.. took a while tho |
| 23:27.00 | Xelopheris | will that evaluate? |
| 23:27.07 | Nefarion | test in-game? |
| 23:27.39 | Xelopheris | oi, join an AV then to bring up my raid frames >.> |
| 23:28.59 | tinyboom | Paene: ping |
| 23:29.04 | Xelopheris | nope, didn't evaluate |
| 23:30.26 | mattswell | man |
| 23:30.59 | mattswell | is there an addon in existence that will let me create /macros on the fly? i don't always want a button bound macro :D |
| 23:32.49 | Tse | woah, aloft has a 1mb file of aliases? is that in memory all the time? |
| 23:33.20 | Cryect | can't modify macros etc via addons on the fly or you could do Decursive again |
| 23:33.57 | Nefarion | Tse: file size != in game mem usage |
| 23:34.30 | Tse | rgr |
| 23:35.06 | Keias | Is there a stand-alone addon that will show your XP as a text instead of a bar? |
| 23:35.31 | Keias | for example, 10111/20222 (50%) |
| 23:36.19 | Industrial | industrial.wowinterface.com |
| 23:36.21 | Industrial | idExperience |
| 23:37.12 | Keias | thanks :D |
| 23:39.15 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r54062 10MBB/ (MBB.toc localization-zhCN.lua): |
| 23:39.15 | CIA-7 | MBB: |
| 23:39.15 | CIA-7 | - add zhCN localization |
| 23:39.25 | Ellipsis | Industrial, I need to have more of your babies |
| 23:39.35 | Industrial | ;D |
| 23:40.42 | NightHawkAtWork | gah, people who can't be arsed to follow the most basic style standards really piss me off. >< |
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| 23:40.56 | Industrial | there are none |
| 23:41.45 | Industrial | addon={Enable=function () foo() end, ...} |
| 23:41.50 | Industrial | used to code like that |
| 23:41.59 | Industrial | for a week or 2 |
| 23:41.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:42.11 | CIA-7 | 03rodrick * r54063 10NazGuildRecruiter/Core.lua: |
| 23:42.11 | CIA-7 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 23:42.11 | CIA-7 | - What I get for having more than one copy around, this is the one not edited for bugtesting |
| 23:44.13 | Xelopheris | I'm good. Open my SV file for pitbull and find that 7/8 raid group positions were on exact pixel values instead of endless decimal spaces :) |
| 23:44.38 | Xelopheris | gotta love being so anal about a perfect alignment that I edit the SV file |
| 23:45.13 | Ellipsis | wait, you mean there are people who don't care enough to do that? |
| 23:45.39 | Stanzilla | I don't want nazi guilds rodrick -.- |
| 23:45.53 | Stanzilla | oh and hai Ellipsis |
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| 23:48.45 | CIA-7 | 03paene * r54064 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis2: |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-7 | -Added the ability to show/hide each button |
| 23:49.07 | NightHawkAtWork | I stopped worrying about pixel-perfect alignments a long time ago. |
| 23:49.52 | Cryect | isn't there addons for snapping and such? |
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| 23:50.32 | JoshBorke | align and snaptogrid |
| 23:50.36 | JoshBorke | but they aren't perfecting |
| 23:50.38 | JoshBorke | erm, perfect |
| 23:52.17 | Cryect | why isn't your addon perfecting! |
| 23:54.13 | JoshBorke | because i'm too lazy |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r54065 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-7 | - update zhCN localization |
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| 23:57.28 | Cryect | If your addon was perfecting you could be truly lazy |
| 23:59.02 | Xuerian | GRAH FINALLY |
| 23:59.11 | Xelopheris | What's Finally? |
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