IRC log for #wowace on 20071105

00:00.36Amorphousit is? perhaps i missed something in the changelog...
00:00.45nevcairielCartographer has Babble-2.2 as X-Embeds
00:00.49nevcairielthat should be it
00:03.41Amorphousnevcairiel, i'm not sure if it has been fixed since then in babble but last time i needed to put Babble-Class-2.2 into Carto../Libs to fix that error
00:04.51nevcairielX-Embeds is not needed anyway if you run with externals
00:05.07CIA-703daviesh * r53888 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/PvP.lua DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua):
00:05.07CIA-7AtlasLoot:
00:05.07CIA-7- Fix for Arena season 3 weapons
00:05.59Amorphousnevcairiel, i don't (though i probably should) and it is needed for it to be embedded in the zip
00:07.26Arrowmasterthe externals might be messed up then
00:07.48nevcairielX-Embeds is only some candy for the updater
00:07.56nevcairielexternals control what gets in the .zip
00:09.14Amorphousnevcairiel, oh. where are those externals defined?
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00:09.20Nefarion!vs us mothersbasement Kalgan us lawland Tseric
00:09.21ThraeBotNefarion: Kalgan vs Tseric! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? Tseric is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes Tseric 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit!
00:09.23Nefarionlol
00:10.08nevcairielAmorphous: svn propertie, svn:externals
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00:13.13Amorphousnevcairiel, mh. how does it know which ones from Babble-2.2/ it needs to put into the zip?
00:15.14Amorphousfrom embeds.xml ?
00:16.01omniwolfis there an up to date page about wow ace updater? the wiki page's last version it talks about is 1.8...
00:16.12Amorphouserg ok that was not the svn props i looked at :(
00:16.18omniwolfwhats the difference between 1.9.x and 2.0?
00:16.23CIA-703toadkiller * r53889 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
00:16.23CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.0:
00:16.23CIA-7- Reins of the Swift Spectral Tiger
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00:19.22|Stan|http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce <- is this working for you guys?
00:19.46CIA-703daviesh * r53890 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua:
00:19.46CIA-7Babble-2.2:
00:19.46CIA-7- Added general purpose 'Weapon' so that you don't have to reference a specific weapon type/subtype.
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00:20.31WobWorkfish appears to be down atm
00:20.36VoGUEhello
00:21.01VoGUEI wonder if there is any coder here that worked on guildaddons?
00:22.59VoGUEhmmmm is there anyone awake here?
00:23.07Diaowhat's guildaddons
00:23.40VoGUEwell, Im new to programming addons and before i start i wanted to ask some questions about function sto see if its even possible
00:24.44VoGUEScenario: Im GM but have a hard time finding my guildmates when its time to raid. Solution:Make a addon that helps me see what accounts are online and not only what chars are online
00:25.03[dRaCo]no way to do that
00:25.14[dRaCo]you cant access account names
00:25.18VoGUEoki
00:25.19CIA-703daviesh * r53891 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua:
00:25.19CIA-7Babble-2.2:
00:25.19CIA-7- Added 'Cloak'
00:25.45NightHawkTheSaneif you have a hard time finding your guild members when it's raid time, then you're members obviously aren't interested in raiding.
00:25.57NightHawkTheSaneyour*
00:25.59NightHawkTheSanebleh
00:26.30VoGUEI figured I couldnt access that, but what if i have a addon that checks what chars you have on that server and sends that info to other guildmembers with the same addon?
00:26.55[dRaCo]yeah, that'd be possible
00:26.58[dRaCo]at least I guess so
00:27.11VoGUENightHawkTheSane, I know what youmean, however its not necessarily true they dont wanna raid, they might be on adds and forget about time or whatever
00:27.15NightHawkTheSaneIt'd only work if you had the addon loaded for every character, and logged in on them.
00:27.19Diaohave them on alts in the guild?
00:27.21Diaowith an alt rank
00:27.32NightHawkTheSaneAn addon really only has the scope of the current player
00:27.58Diaohmm
00:27.59VoGUEYes but I dont want all alts, and besides when people create new alt they have to be invited
00:28.17Diaowondering whether having a slow OH as fury for the new WW will offset the spikier rage generation compared to having a fast OH
00:28.34NightHawkTheSaneWhat's the problem with that, though? Unless your guild is several hundred non-alt members, it's really no big deal
00:28.48VoGUEits 90 accounts atm
00:29.07NightHawkTheSaneDiao: my instinct says no. OH will only do 62.5% damage anyway, assuming DW Spec.
00:29.15VoGUEand people are on alt all the time, and some have irlfriendsguild that they dont wanna leave etc
00:29.19Diaotrue
00:29.34Diaobeing in 2 guilds is a problem in the first place :P
00:30.06NightHawkTheSanebut, given that you don't really do anything useful with your OH other than generate rage, I wouldn't be surprised if it's at least as good, if not slightly better overall. You'll just get spikier rage gen. ;)
00:30.06VoGUEyea I guess but, were arent a HC guild, I cant force people to show up, and I dont want to either
00:30.26WobWorkVoGUE: the way we do it is have our own channel aside from guild
00:30.35WobWorksince our raiders aren't all from the same guild
00:30.51WobWorkso we recruit from that channel when raidtime comes around
00:30.58VoGUEhmmmm thats a good idea... but it requires everyone to enter that channel
00:31.05Amorphousyup^^ we use GEM with an channel+password
00:31.08WobWorkSure, but that only has to be done once
00:31.21WobWorkand if they want to raid, it's not -that- much of an effort
00:31.23VoGUEonce per char?
00:31.28WobWorkof course
00:31.32VoGUEor once per account? its once pr char right?
00:31.37WobWorkonce per char
00:31.46VoGUEyea.. hmmmmmm mmmmmmm but i dont trust em :p
00:31.54CIA-703daviesh * r53892 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/Sets.lua DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua):
00:31.54CIA-7AtlasLoot:
00:31.55CIA-7- Rebuilt heroic token menu
00:31.58WobWorkif your raid members can't be bothered even joining a single channel in order to be called upon to raid
00:32.00NightHawkTheSaneVoGUE: any solution will require it to be opt-in from your members.
00:32.03WobWorkthen I suspect you have larger problems
00:32.14VoGUEyea i guess youre right
00:32.17NightHawkTheSaneif they can't be botherd to join a custom chat channel, they won't install an addon either.
00:32.51VoGUEno but I addon is more controllable, but the channel might be a good idea....
00:33.37WobWorkwell, there'd have to be some registration of some sort on behalf of all the alts even if you had an addon
00:33.48WobWorksince there is no way you can pull account information for someone else
00:34.01WobWorkas that's a horrible invasion of privacy =P
00:34.16VoGUEbasically my first thought was changing the ingame guild rooster so it showed online guildmembers in say green, online guildmembers that where on alts in yellow or something like that and then a new column for the alts name
00:34.46kenlyricWobWork: just wait for blizzard to do it.
00:34.49VoGUEWobWork: indeed, I thought about that, not always you want your GM to see you are online.
00:35.09VoGUEon alts that is.
00:35.10WobWorkkenlyric: only a matter of time =P
00:35.21kenlyricthat's why you mark alts in the guild window.
00:35.36kenlyricdoesn't seem like rocket surgery.
00:35.47VoGUEyes, but then its back to having to invite all alts
00:35.56NightHawkTheSanekenlyric: nah, rocket surgery is loads more fun.
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00:36.41kenlyricI've never understood the problem with that. Who cares if alts are in the guild or not?
00:36.42VoGUEthing is we raid late, start at 21 sometimes 22, some of our members have mains in more endgame guilds, they cant join the guild with mains
00:36.46kenlyricwant to brag about how small the roster is?
00:37.52VoGUEno its fine with me I dont mind either, I would love to have all chars from all members accounts in the guild, but as I said there are reasons why people want to have chars in oter guilds aswell
00:38.25VoGUEI have given the idea some thought before i came here disturbing you :p
00:39.08kenlyricyeah, gem or private channel.
00:39.13WobWorkThat's why you should use the custom channel
00:39.16VoGUEIts not only for me either, some of these things can be sorted by a good friendslist aswell
00:39.19VoGUEyes
00:39.39WobWorknow that we have that chat panel, it makes it easier to see who's on the channel
00:39.41VoGUEcustom channel is actually the best idea so far i guess... minimal work
00:39.45kenlyricheck, private channels have chats!
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00:39.55kenlyricthe voice chats!
00:39.56duckdodgershello
00:39.58duckdodgersi have a question
00:40.04duckdodgersis there an ace mod that handles raid invites?
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00:40.10kenlyriccool, is that a script?
00:40.15kenlyric"hello"
00:40.19duckdodgers?
00:40.28WobWorkoRA?
00:40.33duckdodgersit does?
00:40.35kenlyricwelcome from the people of earth.
00:40.36WobWorkno idea =)
00:40.47WobWorkI assume it does the whisper invite
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00:40.56WobWorkbut you're talking about predetermined invites, no?
00:41.23duckdodgerscan I do invite all lvl 70's int he guild?
00:41.34VoGUEPrat can do the invites from a whisper etc i think
00:41.34WobWorkoh. I don't think so
00:41.55VoGUEif you want some manual control aswell
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00:43.57Xelopherisanyone getting stuck at Auth?
00:44.05VoGUEanyways, ill give the costum channel a go, see if people like it. If I still wanna try to build a addon i guess ill come back
00:44.20VoGUEor custom channel
00:44.22VoGUE:p
00:44.40LukianCan I hide Fizzle's durability text if it's at 100%?
00:44.47VoGUEthanks for the help and keep up the good work, I recommend ace to everyone
00:45.25WobWorkfor i=1,GetNumGuildMembers do local name, _, _, level, _, _, _, _, online = GetGuildRosterInfo(i); if level == 70 and online then InviteUnit(name) end end
00:45.33WobWorkmake that a macro, duckdodgers
00:45.37WobWorkor something like that
00:45.50WobWorkwhoops
00:46.10WobWorkfor i=1,GetNumGuildMembers() do local name, _, _, level, _, _, _, _, online = GetGuildRosterInfo(i); if level == 70 and online then InviteUnit(name) end end
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00:50.09genetik-duckdodgers: oRA2 has a feature that will let you invite all lvl70s in your guild to a raid.
00:50.18WobWorkoh good
00:50.31WobWorkI've never used all the RL stuff in oRA2
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00:51.06theoddone33had an epic bg moment
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00:51.39theoddone33solo returned the flag against a rogue and healing priest by kicking the priest twice with awesome timing
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00:52.27duckdodgerswhere is that Option Genetik?
00:52.51duckdodgersnm
00:52.53duckdodgersi found it
00:53.16genetik-it's in the waterfall menu under invite > invite guild
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00:55.28Daemoenhey guys, anyone else having issues connecting to WoW
00:55.34_raneis it possible to increase the range that nameplates show up in?
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00:55.53genetik-Daemoen: i was just able to get in after having some issues
00:56.22NightHawkTheSanejesus, 3 rogues and 2 druids in this kara raid.
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01:04.03omniwolfwhats wrong with 2 druids? we regularly have 2 or more druids in our karas
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01:04.30LukianNightHawkTheSane, well you won't have any issues on Shade :p
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01:04.39NightHawkTheSaneLukian: if we get that far, we're on opera.
01:04.47Lukian]
01:04.49Lukianwhich event?
01:04.53NightHawkTheSaneomniwolf: well, its not the 2 druids, its the half-the-raid-in-two-classes thin :P
01:05.15omniwolfhehe
01:05.18NightHawkTheSaneno idea, we havn't actually gotten to it yet. we downed maiden and called it last thursday
01:05.32omniwolfdoesn't count for druids.. they can tank, heal, dps.. 3 rogues is a lot tho
01:06.11NightHawkTheSaneyeah
01:06.19NightHawkTheSaneand one of the druids is resto, the other is feral, so that works out well
01:06.38omniwolfcool.  we usually have a feral and moonkin
01:06.45JoshBorkes/moon/oom/
01:06.46omniwolfoccasionally a resto too
01:07.15omniwolfim the moonkin :)  i only run out of mana on nightbane and prince.. but im alchemy so i have no probs chugging down the mana pots
01:07.17NightHawkTheSaneRight now, we've got a prot pally, feral druid, resto druid, 3 rogues, shadow priest, holy priest, and resto shammy (me)
01:07.29NightHawkTheSanewe're trying to scrounge up some ranged dps for the last slot. ><
01:08.26Lukian9 man it, you have a shaman :p
01:08.29Lukianhehe
01:08.37NightHawkTheSanehaha
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01:09.39Orionshockhey all
01:10.30Lukianhey os
01:12.12NightHawkTheSanewe're thinking we could 9 man the trash, and see what we get for opera, if it's BBW, we could probably 9 man that
01:12.29NightHawkTheSanethe biggest problem for opera is just raid makeup, no ranged for romulo, and no real fire/fear for crone
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01:13.17omniwolfyeah tahts gonna be tough
01:15.48ToadkillerOk I am trying to make a PT3 set for locked containers.  Anyone know the name of one so I can look it up on wowhead?
01:15.48Daemoenhmmm
01:15.50Daemoenanyone using the cartographer sets?
01:17.43JoshBorkesets?
01:18.12NightHawkTheSaneSo, i asked this before, but didn't get much response. Anyone know of a shopping-list-like addon that can just store lists of item/recipe links?
01:20.02ToadkillerSo like pick some recipes & it gives you a list of mats needed?
01:20.51NightHawkTheSaneeh, maybe, but really I just want it to store the actual recipe or item link in a list where i can click and see the tooltip.
01:20.54EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: Skillet has a "shopping list feature" which is probably similar to what you're asking, haven't tried it myself though
01:21.22NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: used skillet, didn't quite do what i want. and it also tried to purchase primal nethers from the heroic badge vendor automagically. ><
01:21.37Moozhhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/071025.jpg the cake is a lie
01:21.39Ellipsiseesh
01:22.19GnarfozNightHawkTheSane: what do you need ranged for romulo for? tank & spank oO
01:23.01NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: eh, mostly just be more optimal, melee on romulo kinda sucks. we're not exactly very far progressed in kara, so.
01:23.37Gnarfozhow... what? :D melee or ranged on romulo is absolutely the same, at least as far as I can tell
01:23.53NightHawkTheSaneer.. romulo has a cleave AND a backwards thrust attack.
01:25.47Ellipsisheehee, that sounds dirty
01:26.25uliccould always stand to his side, supposted you can miss those attacks.
01:26.45ulic*supposedly
01:31.10CIA-703toadkiller * r53893 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
01:31.10CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:31.10CIA-7- Container.Locked
01:33.02ArrowmasterToadkiller: i thought PT3 already had locked containers
01:35.17ArrowmasterToadkiller: Misc.Lockboxes
01:40.47Obelixprimeanyone getting an error with atlasloot?
01:41.49Orionshockme
01:42.31CIA-703joshborke * r53894 10/branches/RaidCast/:
01:42.31CIA-7RaidCast:
01:42.31CIA-7- create folder
01:42.31CIA-7- addon to display what your raid is casting
01:43.39CIA-703joshborke 07Ace3 * r53895 10RaidCast/:
01:43.39CIA-7RaidCast:
01:43.39CIA-7- my first Ace addon! yay!
01:44.16Obelixprimei have a concatenating error with dewdroplib
01:44.19Finyay JoshBorke yay!
01:44.28Orionshockanother bloated pos.... >.> :P
01:44.48JoshBorkeOrionshock: don't worry, it won't get far off the ground :-D
01:45.34Orionshockya well.. im planning to make another bloated pos mod too...
01:45.40Ellipsiswe have to be supportive of the new devs!
01:46.02JoshBorkeEllipsis: what's this new dev shit? :-P
01:46.08Orionshockim supportive
01:46.24Orionshocki call it as i see it :D
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01:48.15ToadkillerNightHawkTheSane: Automagic primal nether purchase with badges ftw!
01:50.36CIA-703toadkiller * r53896 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
01:50.36CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:50.36CIA-7- Undo the locked thing
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01:53.13NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: indeed ><
01:53.41Toadkillerlol I wonder how that got through QA ;-p
01:54.07ToadkillerHow many heroic runs does it take to test the feature?
01:54.22NightHawkTheSaneprobably more than the dev did :P
01:54.29NightHawkTheSane(10 badges per nether, btw)
01:54.42ToadkillerAlthough after a while thats all you need, well till 2.3 hits the fan
01:54.51NightHawkTheSaneyeah.
01:54.59Lukianlol wut?
01:56.38NightHawkTheSanei'm still at a point where there's actual upgrades from badge rewards, so i need them all for that, not to purchase random primals for things i didn't actually want to craft, but somehow added their mats to the shoping list. ><
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02:01.18Toadkiller2.3 is adding a ton more badge gear
02:01.43ToadkillerI need to go farm badges so I can pimp out my boomkin set
02:02.03ToadkillerOf course I dont really need one now that +heal gear has +damage but...
02:04.11CIA-703joshborke 07Ace3 * r53897 10RaidCast/ (. RaidCast.lua RaidCast.toc embeds.xml lib/ locales/): RaidCast:
02:04.13Lukianbut it's better :p
02:04.41ToadkillerYeah & its LEATHER
02:04.53Ellipsisno u
02:05.02JoshBorkeok
02:05.17Orionshockping nevcairiel
02:05.24NightHawkTheSaneYOU'RE leather
02:05.31NightHawkTheSaneand yeah, the 2.3 gear is pretty sexy
02:05.45Lukianactually he's feather
02:06.01NightHawkTheSanefeather? I hardly know her.
02:06.09Orionshockraven boss in sethikk halls - is it heroic mode only?
02:06.17Ellipsisyou know me NightHawkTheSane
02:06.19Ellipsis<3
02:06.22NightHawkTheSaneOrionshock: es
02:06.23NightHawkTheSaneyes
02:06.43NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: and thats what scares me.
02:07.11Ellipsis=[
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02:13.36buuSo
02:13.41buu"Filter Tag String"
02:16.02buuHow do I filter out pets?
02:16.28WobWorkgood deodouriser?
02:16.36WobWorkperhaps lock the catflap?
02:17.07buuI told it to party members..
02:17.10buuIs there a list someplace
02:18.00_raneii
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02:18.21buuHrm.
02:19.26CIA-703cwdg * r53898 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua:
02:19.26CIA-7BigWigs_CommonAuras:
02:19.26CIA-7update zhCN local
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02:21.02buuHow do I get a list of assessment tags?
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02:22.28CryectBest way is to check the lua file
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02:25.16aestilassement tags?
02:25.31aestilis assement like dog tag?
02:25.41aestilyou can filter and display things based on keywords?
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02:34.54Orionshockassessment has it's own tag system
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02:38.48CIA-703nymbia * r53900 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (7 files in 6 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Automated dataminer update
02:44.06AntiarcIs there a way to map a key to target oRA2's MT4 target?
02:46.10Orionshock?no
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02:47.02Orionshockoh there is
02:47.28Orionshockunder key bindings
02:48.28AntiarcMmm. That's a starting point.
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02:59.18CIA-703peragor * r53901 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:
02:59.18CIA-7GridStatusHealer:
02:59.18CIA-7- Added HealComm and IncomingHeals library use to improved incoming heals prioritization.
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03:27.34AmorphousLibRock-1.0 is supposed to be "in" !!!StandaloneLibraries right?
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03:36.19ArrowmasterAmorphous: not really since !!!StandaloneLibraries isnt suppost to be used anymore
03:36.44AmorphousArrowmaster, how is it supposed to be done now?
03:37.00Arrowmasteryou use WAU
03:37.13Arrowmasterit does it for you
03:38.45Amorphousi have neither .net nor windows :) which makes WAU less of a choice, so where does WAU get the information?
03:39.14ArrowmasterWAU2.0 uses java
03:39.14Amorphous(.net is a bit of a pain with wine)
03:39.20Amorphousoh
03:40.04CIA-703next96 * r53902 10Cryolysis/Locales/ (Localization-dialog-koKR.lua Localization-functions-koKR.lua):
03:40.04CIA-7Cryolysis:
03:40.04CIA-7- koKR delete
03:40.14Amorphousoutdated wiki page...
03:40.57AmorphousArrowmaster, where does WAU get it's information from?
03:40.58CIA-703next96 * r53903 10Cryolysis/Locales/ (Localization-dialog-koKR.lua Localization-functions-koKR.lua):
03:40.58CIA-7Cryolysis:
03:40.58CIA-7- Add locale koKR
03:41.20ArrowmasterAmorphous: X-Embeds in the tocs
03:41.34Amorphousthank you
03:41.49Arrowmasteractually the server uses the X-Embeds i think to make the xml file which has the info init
03:41.50miicaany burning legion guy?
03:42.02Arrowmastermiica: the server?
03:42.06miicayes
03:42.08Arrowmasteryeah
03:42.12miicahorde?
03:42.15Arrowmasteryes
03:42.18miicacool
03:42.22miicayou in game?
03:42.26Arrowmasteryeah
03:42.35miicacould you send message to felic paladin?
03:42.59miicathat "toheli loves him and tohveli got lot of time"
03:43.05Arrowmasterfelic?
03:43.14Arrowmasterno player found
03:43.28miicablood elf paladin
03:43.33miicahttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Felic
03:43.44Arrowmaster0 players found
03:43.53miicahow about Giselle
03:43.55miicawarrior
03:44.02Arrowmasteroh eu... im on us
03:44.04miicahttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Giselle
03:44.06miica...
03:44.16CIA-703cwdg * r53904 10Cryolysis/Locales/Localization-functions-zhCN.lua:
03:44.16CIA-7Cryolysis:
03:44.16CIA-7-fix zhCN local's bug
03:44.38miicamy priest dropped throw ground
03:44.48miicain arena and now we w8 that horde afk out ^^
03:45.08Arrowmasterlol
03:46.00miicai died becose no healer so.. :/
03:48.13miicanow GM talks to my priest <3
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03:55.43CIA-703cwdg * r53905 10Cryolysis/Locales/Localization-functions-zhCN.lua:
03:55.43CIA-7Cryolysis:
03:55.43CIA-7-update zhCN local
03:58.52CIA-703joshborke 07Ace3 * r53906 10RaidCast/ (RaidCast.lua RaidCast.toc embeds.xml lib/): RaidCast: actually populated some files
03:59.09JoshBorkenight
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04:00.23Ackisi haven't played wow in over a like 3 days! *shakes with withdrawl*
04:00.23`ZypherROFLCOPTER
04:00.54miicai got idea..
04:01.08miicaneed to find those guys ip and ddos down! :D
04:01.23miicawould be cool arena win ^^
04:02.01Ackisif you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin!
04:02.53miicasend some fake wow packets
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04:08.46CIA-703cwdg * r53907 10Cryolysis/Locales/ (Localization-dialog-zhCN.lua Localization-functions-zhCN.lua):
04:08.46CIA-7Cryolysis:
04:08.46CIA-7-update zhCN local
04:08.46`Zypherrofl
04:08.49`ZypherDDOS his ass
04:09.09Ackisis there anyway to test code without having an active account? just adding some deDE translations to babble and don't want to break anything
04:11.17WobinAckis: try the PTR?
04:11.27WobinI hear you don't need an active account for it... but I may be wrong
04:11.42Ackishmmm i'll try that
04:11.59Ackisor just dry code it, and then duck? tehehehe
04:12.25OrionshockIDE?
04:12.26hyperChipmunkat least run it through luac
04:12.36Ackisit's just translations in babble
04:12.41Fisker-blargh ur ded
04:12.51Ackisluac should pick up on any syntax issues
04:16.16CIA-7037destiny * r53908 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Auchindoun/ShadowLabyrinth/Blackheart.lua:
04:16.17CIA-7Threat-1.0:
04:16.17CIA-7- koKR typo fix
04:17.46xerawxyeah you can play on the ptr without an active account.. i've been unsub for 6 mths and i'm on there right now
04:18.12xerawxeven a banned account i hear
04:18.43xerawxi guess they want the exploiters to test things in their little sandbox for free
04:20.56Ackislol pro
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04:21.49Ackisif anyone here who knows german can confirm that "nicht in der Datenbank enGB/Spiel" basically means that it's not in the english translation, I'll love you
04:23.02Ellipsisseems simple enough to me, even without any knowledge of german :P
04:23.36Ackishey i've done stupid things before, just wanted to make sure Ellipsis :P
04:23.47Wobin~x de en  nicht in der Datenbank enGB/Spiel
04:23.54CIA-703helium * r53909 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua:
04:23.54CIA-7Babble-2.2:
04:23.54CIA-7- Inventory: update zhTW localization
04:24.09CIA-703helium * r53910 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (5 files):
04:24.09CIA-7FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
04:24.09CIA-7- update zhTW localization
04:25.10Pkekyohttp://static.nettby.no/users/n/a/n/naniii/files/th_McDonaldgetsowned.gif ahahah
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04:27.54aestilKT is a piece of crap
04:28.06aestilactually, capernian is a piece of crap?
04:28.21NightHawkTheSanewoo! cloth healing shoulders... yay >.>
04:28.26Pkekyohuh...Georgia's going tits up
04:28.29NightHawkTheSanealso, we totally downed curator.
04:28.32Pkekyocongrats NHTS
04:28.48NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: I'm a shammy. I only took the shoulders because the priest and druid had better. :P
04:29.09Pkekyowell, if you didn't have any better, it's still an upgrade, no?
04:29.15NightHawkTheSaneyeah, it was
04:29.26NightHawkTheSaneit was an upgrade over the blue cloth shoulders i was wearing, so. ;)
04:30.10CIA-703ackis * r53911 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-deDE.lua:
04:30.10CIA-7AckisRecipeList:
04:30.10CIA-7- Added deDE fixes thanks to Angelike
04:30.20Pkekyoahah, wicked
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04:30.33Pkekyohmm, school in 1.5hrs.... I ought to go to sleep soon
04:31.03NightHawkTheSanesleep in 2 hours.
04:31.27CIA-703xionglingfeng * r53912 10Nudge/Nudge.lua:
04:31.27CIA-7Nudge
04:31.27CIA-7- add Chs translation.
04:31.39miicahttp://koti.mbnet.fi/miica/arena.png
04:32.00NightHawkTheSaneChs? oh, chinese simplified i guess
04:32.51Pkekyofucksake, gotta do my dailies
04:33.08Pkekyoany word on 2.3 lately?
04:33.20NightHawkTheSaneas in release date? not that i've heard
04:33.27NightHawkTheSanerumors (mostly propogated by me) say ~2 weeks
04:34.09Pkekyomeh, wtb 2.3 today
04:34.15NightHawkTheSaneseriously
04:34.22NightHawkTheSanei want my free 50mp/5
04:35.08Pkekyohuh?
04:35.29NightHawkTheSanebetween the buffs to mana spring and water shield, it comes out to about 50/mp5 increase from current
04:35.49NightHawkTheSanenot including the increased mana regen for party members, even
04:35.51Pkekyocongrats, I guess
04:35.59PkekyoI just want to remove sunder armor from my actionbars :p
04:36.02NightHawkTheSanehehe
04:36.09AckisI get about 50 mp5 also from the buff to spirit
04:36.10NightHawkTheSaneyeah, the devastate changes will be awesome
04:36.19Ackisfor priests/dr00ds
04:36.27NightHawkTheSaneyeah, it's a good deal all around
04:36.32NightHawkTheSaneexcept for pallies
04:36.46Ackispallies are imba already
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04:36.59NightHawkTheSaneindeed
04:37.39Pkekyowhat's with the 53 sec lootreaver kill?
04:37.50Arrowmasterexploit
04:38.25Pkekyohow?
04:38.36Arrowmasterone of the mobs in the room has a skill that doesnt have a cooldown when mindcontroled and can be spammed for like 50000dps
04:38.47Xinhuano_O
04:38.55Arrowmasterapparently some guild pulled one into kaels room then started the fight
04:39.06Pkekyohaha, ace
04:39.12Arrowmasterso its now considered an exploit that could get you baned for using
04:39.19Xinhuanwhat mob is this
04:39.30Arrowmasterthe tempestsmiths i think
04:39.40Arrowmasterwith the bomb thingy
04:39.46Xinhuanhaha
04:39.51Wobinyeah
04:39.57Xinhuanwouldn't that mob pull aggro on lootreaver?
04:39.57Wobinfrag bomb
04:40.11Arrowmasterprobably
04:40.12ScoTTiethey've got a crapload of hp
04:40.13Ackisif you need exploits to kill lootreaver cool
04:40.17Wobinwith the dps output and the fact that's it an aoe
04:40.36Xinhuanthe fact that its aoe is irrelevant though, since there's only 1 target - lootreaver
04:40.59Arrowmasterbut you can use it on any fight in the instance
04:41.03Arrowmasternot jsut lootreaver
04:41.10Xinhuani suppose it would own up solarian
04:41.17Arrowmasteror kael
04:41.30Arrowmasterwould rape kaels face
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04:42.39Ackisi wonder if you'd get ooc after aoeing the weapons down?
04:43.27Arrowmasterno
04:43.35Arrowmastersince you go into combat when he starts talking
04:44.21CIA-703ackis * r53913 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:
04:44.21CIA-7Babble-2.2:
04:44.21CIA-7- Tradeskill: deDE updates thanks to Kraxsn and Angelike
04:44.45Orionshockeek
04:45.12OrionshockFin: hey where is all the prat documentation?, wowace wiki doesn't have it anymore..
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04:47.31Ackisrofl transfered my toon to ptr wondering why i lost healing... yay for talent reset
04:48.18CIA-703ominous * r53914 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update
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04:52.22Ackis2070 healing/760 dmg/220 mp5 casting/396 mp5 not casting w/ no buffs on in PTR
04:52.31aestilpeople are falling through the floor
04:52.39aestilteleported aroudn the room
04:52.46aestilsanginuar is evade bugging
04:53.29aestilrediculous
04:55.02Ackisduring phase 1 or 3?
04:55.02OrionshockToadkiller: .... autobar just went fubar on me :\
04:55.33Pkekyo*my grammarwhore sense is tingling* :p
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05:03.12FinOrionshock: it doesn't?
05:03.15aestilp3
05:03.39OrionshockFin: nope not there ... main page that says hello but no sub pages or anything.
05:03.41Finhttp://wowace.com/wiki/Prat ?
05:03.50Finoh, I guess it must've been nuked in the wiki crash
05:07.17Pkekyo+g
05:07.18Pkekyofucksake
05:07.31Pkekyotoo many typos, time to sleep, g'nite all
05:10.55aestilany good 1kdmg hit capped locks on PvP server that want to transfer to darkspear?
05:11.24CIA-703daviesh * r53915 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (6 files):
05:11.24CIA-7AtlasLoot:
05:11.24CIA-7- Fixed error with token loot
05:12.34Pkekyoaestil: try eu-warlock or us-warlock on quakenet :)
05:13.16aestilwhat is quakenet?
05:13.22Pkekyoan irc server
05:13.25Pkekyoirc.quakenet.org
05:13.27KemayoGoogle knows.
05:13.32NightHawkTheSanelol
05:13.37Ackisis it common practice for people to post ace mods on mod sites? ie: www.thewow.cn ?
05:13.44NightHawkTheSaneyou guys know the engineering rocket boots, that make you spin?
05:13.49AckisI should add mods that aren't their own?
05:14.23NightHawkTheSaneone of the rogues in my guild used them on aran to get away from the arcane explosion...
05:14.30NightHawkTheSaneand bugged, so he's permanently spinning
05:15.15Killmorehttp://www.invictuswow.com/pics/killmore_ui.jpg
05:15.38Killmoresuggestion, comments ?
05:16.07PkekyoKillmore: use the same bloody texture on all your bars, that mix'n'match shit is FUGLY AS HELL
05:16.24Pkekyouse the same bloody color ranges as well
05:16.48Pkekyohm, that was alot of bloody
05:17.29aestildid they nerf P2 when they nerfed P1?
05:17.47Xinhuanno
05:17.51Ellipsisaestil, find someone with a lock on darkspear that will trade chars for mine? :P
05:18.31Ackisyou could probably move the fsr timer down to the bottom of the screen, and get rid of the quartz buff stuff
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05:23.18CIA-703daviesh * r53916 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua:
05:23.18CIA-7AtlasLoot:
05:23.18CIA-7- Fixed some navigation issues
05:23.30PkekyoKillmore: never mind me :)
05:38.31CIA-703next96 * r53917 10Enhancer/locale/Localization-koKR.lua:
05:38.31CIA-7Enhancer:
05:38.31CIA-7- Update locale koKR
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05:42.59CIA-703toadkiller * r53918 10AutoBar/ (14 files): (log message trimmed)
05:42.59CIA-7AutoBar :
05:42.59CIA-7-- 2.02.03.23 beta ()
05:42.59CIA-7-- Reins of the Swift Spectral Tiger
05:42.59CIA-7-- AutoBarButtonPickLock: Locked containers and it auto-picks on right click. Untested, no rogue.
05:42.59CIA-7-- AutoBarButtonFishing: Added the fishing spell to the list.
05:43.01CIA-7-- Keybinds for buttons: Potion & Stone cooldown, PickLock, Totems, Petfood, Sting, Trap
05:59.05CIA-703next96 * r53919 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua:
05:59.05CIA-7Skillet:
05:59.05CIA-7- Update locale koKR
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06:23.12NightHawkTheSanewee. best kara run ever.
06:26.53CIA-703wobin 07Wobin * r53920 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.lua PlowEngine.lua embeds.xml): MrPlow: Switched to Timer/Event to move cycles.
06:30.46FinToadkiller: I'm constantly getting 100s of errors that say "beta.53869\Core.lua:213: attempt to concatenate field 'name' (a nil value)", btw
06:31.08FinToadkiller: s'been happening for a while (days) now (FYI)
06:32.02RaydenUniwhat slot are weapons?
06:32.17RaydenUninm
06:32.18RaydenUni16 and 17
06:36.23Fin213: AutoBar.Class.Button:UpdateBindings(buttonDB.name, buttonDB.name .. "Frame")
06:42.20aestilwell, we killed the bastard
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06:42.55RaydenUniwho?
06:43.15RaydenUnilol at pallies
06:43.20RaydenUni95% flash of light
06:43.56WobinRaydenUni: well.. what -else- can they cast? =P
06:44.10WobinIt's why I could never be a pally healer
06:44.21Wobinat least as a priest you can mix things up a bit
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06:44.37Wobina hot here, a pom there, a coh over here...
06:44.47Wobinrather than just 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
06:45.40RaydenUnithey have some bigger thing
06:45.59Wobinlay on hands
06:46.14RaydenUniours has used holy light
06:46.17RaydenUni4.5% of the time
06:47.13Wobinwell yes, you see?
06:47.17WobinThey -do- have other spells
06:47.23Wobinthey just don't have the time to use it =P
06:49.26aestilKT
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07:04.04NightHawkTheSaneWobin: thats why I like shammies, too. a good mix of healing wave, chain heal, and earth shield thrown in for spice. :P
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07:04.25NightHawkTheSaneno, i'm not 20 minutes late to this conversation, fuck you. :p
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07:11.00CIA-703wobin 07Wobin * r53921 10MrPlow/PlowEngine.lua: MrPlow: removed some notifications
07:13.40buuI CRY
07:13.52aestilbuu, we killed him
07:14.02buuKt? Is that your flaming thingy in shat?
07:14.12aestilyeah, probably.
07:14.17buuNice =[
07:14.24buuWe just spent 3 hours wiping to fucking morogrim
07:14.24aestilwe keyed 24 people for hyjal
07:14.58NightHawkTheSanewho's the 25th sod who didn't? already keyed? or just a loser? :P
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07:15.09aestilsomeone who hasn't killed vashj yet.
07:15.18NightHawkTheSaneah, fair enough i suppose
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07:38.53Wobinstaff of immaculate recovery is creepy
07:39.11Orionshock?
07:39.13Finwhat is it?
07:39.50WobinIt's like someone decaptiated a T5 priest
07:39.53Wobinand stuck him on a pole =\
07:39.56Wobinwell
07:39.59Wobinto be honest
07:40.02Finaha
07:40.06Wobinthe entire t5 set
07:40.15Wobinis like a duct taped priest party
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07:44.13Orionshockanyone on the ptr that's willing to let me play arround with a guild bank
07:44.19Orionshocki just wana see how it works
07:44.52Kerafyrmus?
07:45.02Orionshockofc :D
07:45.19Orionshockhorde side pve
07:45.31Kerafyrmally pve here :P
07:45.46Kerafyrmtrying to verify the gold exploit atm too lol
07:45.56Orionshocki just wana mess arround with the interface see how it works
07:46.11Kerafyrmif you have an ally toon, i'll transfer for a bit
07:46.18Orionshockdidn't know about the guild expoit
07:46.26Kerafyrmnot guild.. g0ld! :P
07:46.35Orionshockok .. gold
07:46.37Orionshockdidn't know :D
07:46.44Kerafyrmsupposedly if you leave the vault open for a long time, all the contents disappears
07:46.50Kerafyrmand you can take out as much gold as you want
07:47.45Orionshocklol
07:48.02Kerafyrmya know.. i'm just thrilled about 1 thing
07:48.14Kerafyrmthe engy injectors no longer require an engy skill to use!
07:49.27Orionshockengy?
07:49.32Kerafyrmengineering
07:49.43Orionshock... oh the mana and health things
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07:49.52KerafyrmMana Potion Injector / Healing Potion Injector
07:50.27Orionshockbut after what 10 rounds it dies off dosn't it?
07:51.16Orionshockok on alliance side pve
07:51.18OrionshockZoie
07:51.28Kerafyrm20 chargers
07:51.33Kerafyrmcharges*
07:51.36Orionshockcan they be re charged?
07:51.39RaydenUnipaly + shaman healing for moroes :D
07:53.49Kerafyrmno
07:53.55Kerafyrmwhats the cmd to transfer leader of guild?
07:59.09XelopherisWTB a billion gold dropping off archimonde to make six hours of wiping worth it
07:59.38Kerafyrmlol
08:00.38CIA-703alar * r53922 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc):
08:00.38CIA-7AlarTTFrame
08:00.38CIA-7Fix: Pet target configurable even for not hunters/locks and in that case defaults to hidden
08:01.01Orionshockevery time u click accept it closes the window,
08:01.25OrionshockI Predict that a mod will come out that replaces guild control button and redoes it to not be such a pain in the ass
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08:05.00OrionshockXelopheris: i've always been of the opinion that any more than 1 full brake is too much for anyone
08:05.17Orionshock10 attempts and then call it for at least 24 hrs, then come back
08:05.38XelopherisYeah well we're competing against the top alliance guild  getting 5 new transfers including a rogue with everything except the OH warglaive >.>
08:06.03Orionshocktrying to keep up with the jone's again eh?
08:06.45Xelopherisnah, we're ahead of them (we're looking at shahraz as we piss on our low stash of HoDs, they're working on gorefiend)
08:07.03Xelopherisbut we gotta keep it that way
08:07.27XelopherisTonight was "Hey look, we got 5 new recruits attuned to Hyjal/BT, wonder how many of them can dodge doomfires" day
08:08.50Orionshockok... i feel dumb
08:08.52Orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/76640
08:08.54Neeblertonight was "hey I'm guildless, hating the game, and wondering why I'm still playing it" day
08:08.55Orionshockwhy dosn't that work?
08:09.59Neeblerthe armory needs a resource to recruit guildless people. or people looking for a better guild
08:10.51Neeblerand have that resource on the armory show /played and possible "accomplishments" which the game would have to record... like which bosses that person has beaten
08:11.37Neeblerwho doesn't like "accomplishments".. TF2 has them, xbox games have them... WoW needs to have them!
08:12.33Orionshocki think most guilds have enough .. epeen stroking as it is..
08:13.21Neeblerit's not about guilds. its about individual players
08:13.28Neeblerguilds fall apart
08:14.12Neeblerand it would be the perfect recruitment tool. no one uses the Guild recruitment channel. and I'm fed of with fighting for a bone trying to get into a decent guild filling out crappy online applications
08:17.56CIA-703jerry * r53923 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: do a dataminer run on old-world raid instances, to fix the loot table of some bosses that had disappear from wowhead.
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08:32.05ToadkillerFin: have you set profile to character or class then reset profile, reset bars & relog.  That should clear out whatever is going wrong.  You should also get the latest version...
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08:50.40Orionshockquestion : AceComm, if i send several values over the channel, will it pass each value separately  to the function or does it contat it into one string then pass that?
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08:59.10RaydenUnisweeeet
08:59.17RaydenUnigloves off attumen and cloak off moroes!
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09:21.34ArrowmasterOrionshock: looking at that pastey i dont see anything wrong with it
09:21.46Orionshockhehe..
09:22.04Orionshocki forgot to add ## Interface: 20200 to the toc... :\
09:22.12Arrowmasterlol
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09:25.52Orionshock& now im working on a Raid ID mod...
09:26.03Orionshockdon't know how well it'll work
09:33.22Arrowmasteri made one that i never finished
09:40.58Orionshockoh
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09:41.17Orionshockif u share i /might/ be able to pick it up?
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09:48.23CIA-703kunda * r53924 10GridSideIndicators/ (3 files):
09:48.23CIA-7GridSideIndicators:
09:48.23CIA-7- TOC 20200
09:48.23CIA-7- added deDE translation
09:48.23CIA-7- added color check in function SideGridFrameClass.prototype:SetIndicator (same as in Grid)
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09:59.58ArrowmasterOrionshock: http://ace.pastey.net/76642
10:04.49Orionshockhumm....
10:05.16Orionshockim gona use that as a start, my main idea is for like guild wide raid id check
10:05.30CIA-703kunda * r53926 10GridStatusHealingReduced/Core.lua:
10:05.30CIA-7GridStatusHealingReduced:
10:05.30CIA-7- added parameters to the SendStatusGained function calls (for color/priority and so)
10:10.41HjalteOrionshock: You can only check that by having the user install an addon, right?
10:10.45KerafyrmOrionshock: i like where your going with that
10:10.49Tekkubhrm... did blue put in a URL filter?
10:11.01TekkubI just saw spam for i********.com
10:11.05Orionshocki'd like it intagrated into oRA2, but we all know that's not going to happen
10:11.07Tekkubin say in stormwind :)
10:11.25HjalteTekkub: Blue?
10:11.29RaydenUnihmm
10:11.30Tekkubyes, Blue
10:11.33RaydenUnimoroes is problematic
10:11.47RaydenUnihow bad is it to do moroes with shaman and pally healing?
10:12.00Kerafyrmdepends on the cc, i suppose
10:12.08Tekkubyea, depends on CC
10:12.11RaydenUniwe had 1 priest and 1 hunter
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10:12.18Tekkubyou can keep 3 controlled, it's cake
10:12.20RaydenUniwe were shackling one and killing 3 adds
10:12.53HjalteUse paladins fear
10:12.55LothaerG'Day
10:13.35RaydenUnitrapping one of the pallies was not working
10:13.42Orionshockour guild does moroes w/o any priests
10:13.42RaydenUnievery time he would unfreeze he'd cleanse shackle
10:14.17RaydenUnihttp://wowwebstats.com/zcrxllnzvvetc
10:14.20Tekkubdon't trap mobs that you want controlled 100% of the time..
10:14.27Tekkubthere's that delay between traps
10:14.44RaydenUniwe ended up swapping our mage for a resto druid
10:17.15Lothaerdo not use Shackles on baron Rafe Dreuger he dispels himself. all others are fine
10:17.20Lothaeri tihnk
10:17.26RaydenUnidispels himself?
10:17.31RaydenUnii don't think so
10:17.31Kerafyrm1 priest + 2 hunters = moroes dead (if you want flawless, even with the garrotes get 2 resto druids too)
10:17.35RaydenUniboth paladins do have cleans though
10:17.45Lothaerholy Priest has Dispel Magic
10:17.54Lothaermake sure the Shadow Priest dies first
10:17.56RaydenUniwe had shadow, paly, paly, arms warrior
10:18.01Lothaerkk
10:18.01RaydenUniyeah we killed shadow first
10:18.03RaydenUnishackled arms warrior
10:18.07RaydenUnidps'd the paladins down
10:18.14Lothaerkeep arms warrior shackled
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10:18.16RaydenUniweee
10:18.20RaydenUnii killed attumen the most!
10:18.33Lothaerif your guild isnt up to it and a tank dies break the shackles and run out and moroes will reset
10:18.40Lothaerhe wont fight if hes friends leave him
10:18.48RaydenUniwill keep that in mind
10:19.00RaydenUnithe room or the dungeon?
10:19.05Lothaerthe room
10:19.13Lothaerjust run back down the stairs to his room
10:19.21Kerafyrmyeah. reset is a good thing with him
10:19.26Lothaerif one of his friends runs out he resets
10:19.45Lothaertell the priest to use this macro
10:19.56Wobinhehe I remember doing moroes with 3 hunters
10:19.59RaydenUnii'm the priest
10:20.03Lothaerkk
10:20.05Lothaeruse this macro
10:20.06Kerafyrm/cast [target=focus] Shackle Undead
10:20.06OrionshockWOOT -- my guild , Shiro Tora of Nagrand has finally cleared KZ! :D
10:20.09RaydenUnii have a macro to shackle focus
10:20.09Lothaerno
10:20.11LothaerNO
10:20.11LothaerNO
10:20.17Kerafyrmworks for me ;)
10:20.21ZhinjioGrats, orion
10:20.22Lothaeryeah it does work
10:20.25Lothaertry this
10:20.33Wobintbh. just get ControlFreak
10:20.41Tekkubdamnit wob
10:20.41Lothaer<PROTECTED>
10:20.54WobinCF is great!
10:20.55Lothaer<PROTECTED>
10:20.56Tekkubhttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/downloads/detail?name=ControlFreak.zip&can=2&q=
10:20.57RaydenUnihow is that different?
10:21.04Lothaer<PROTECTED>
10:21.05Kerafyrmwhy not use focus?
10:21.15RaydenUniyeah focus is great
10:21.16Tekkubbecause only smart people use focus
10:21.20Kerafyrmthats what focus was put in the game for
10:21.21Lothaer....
10:21.21Kerafyrmseriously
10:21.25Wobins'true
10:21.35KerafyrmI've been focus shackling kara since the start
10:21.37Tekkubgrab CF, stop thinking about it, end of discussion
10:21.46Kerafyrmi'll hafta look at CF
10:21.47RaydenUnilink to page describing CF?
10:21.50Kerafyrmnever heard of it before
10:21.51Lothaer<PROTECTED>
10:21.54Lothaermight work
10:21.55Tekkubhttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/downloads/detail?name=ControlFreak.zip&can=2&q=
10:22.02RaydenUnibut why do you eve need to targe the focus?
10:22.05WobinIt puts up a legoblock with the status of the cc mob
10:22.05Kerafyrmthanks Tekkub
10:22.06RaydenUnijust cast on the focus
10:22.10TekkubLoth, seriously, any non-focus macro is pure fail
10:22.16Lothaerwat ever
10:22.18Lothaermy one
10:22.21Kerafyrm./agree Tekhub
10:22.26RaydenUniLothaer if i use yours then i have to re target the dps
10:22.28Lothaerwill autmaticly target any1 i tell it to
10:22.34Lothaerthen retarget who i was just healing
10:22.39Lothaerall with one button press
10:22.42Tekkubyes but your one must be changed every time
10:22.43RaydenUnior you could just use focus...
10:22.45Wobinaye, hopefully
10:22.46Lothaerand not just target the focus
10:22.56RaydenUnithat link doesn't say what CF does
10:22.56Wobinyou can use target=focus
10:22.58Tekkubwith focus you just set focus on your current target this fight and bam it works
10:22.59RaydenUniscreen?
10:23.00Wobinand not target the focus
10:23.10Kerafyrmif you use [target=focus] your real target never changes
10:23.15Lothaerwhy not just do it nmy way
10:23.16Tekkubdownload, install, use, take a screenie, there you go
10:23.18cladhairehrm.. anything think there's any viability to a disc/shadow build that doesn't go very far into shadow?
10:23.22WobinBecause it's silly
10:23.23Kerafyrmcuz your way is prone to NOT working
10:23.26RaydenUniall you need for a macro
10:23.28Wobinit's more effort than it needs to be
10:23.36Lothaermy way has never failed me
10:23.39TekkubLoth, grab CF, give it a try
10:23.42Lothaerand if it fails u its because ur too nub
10:23.46Kerafyrmwhy take your eyes off who your healing, even for a second
10:23.49RaydenUnicladhaire not with the current Disc tree
10:23.50Tekkubcome back here and then you can argue that your macro is better
10:23.55Lothaeri do
10:23.57Lothaernt
10:24.14cladhaireRaydenUni: I agree that its not great right now.. but what in particular turns you off?
10:24.18RaydenUniLothaer just because you've never had problems with it, doesn't mean there isn't a better way
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10:24.22RaydenUnicladhaire that it sucks?
10:24.28RaydenUniblizzard has admitted discipline has no purpose
10:24.37RaydenUnii think it's the least used tree of any class
10:24.37LothaerOMG is just like the Titan vs FuBar rebate im out
10:24.45Kerafyrmsave getting mages and elemental shammy's killed, RaydenUni
10:24.48Wobino.O
10:24.49RaydenUnithey are completely redesigning it for the expansion
10:24.50Tekkubthank you, please don't come back
10:24.53cladhaireRaydenUni: aye, i know that much
10:24.55Wobinomg, titan vs fubar =P
10:24.57cladhairei'm just playing with ideas
10:24.58Kerafyrm./agree Tekkub again
10:25.02Tekkubgod I hate people that aren't willing to try new shit
10:25.03WobinHe was SO ON TARGET WITH THAT
10:25.08RaydenUnicladhaire disc is worth it for some of the mana stuff
10:25.09RaydenUnithat's it
10:25.13cladhairein 2v2 i end up needing to heal many times
10:25.16cladhaireand i can't do that in shadowform
10:25.16WobinThe resemblance of that arguement is uncanny
10:25.20KerafyrmI'm currently 31/30/0
10:25.21cladhairebut that will get better in 2.3
10:25.26Tekkubdude, it's not going to fail unless you typo and you're only editing it every time the mob name changes!
10:25.29KerafyrmPower Infusion is your friend
10:25.35cladhaireindeed
10:25.35Tekkubor... target and click OH WOW I HAVE A NEW MOB!
10:25.46Kerafyrmexactly
10:25.55RaydenUnihis required you to edit the macro for every new mob?
10:25.56cladhairepain suppression would be nice, but its so far down
10:26.05KerafyrmRaydenUni: yes
10:26.06Tekkubyes, his was targetting by name
10:26.08WobinTekkub: he's gone
10:26.12RaydenUnicladhaire i'm 14/0/45
10:26.12Tekkuband then last-targetting
10:26.17RaydenUnii have a few extra points to put into shadow
10:26.22Tekkubyes wob... did you not see....
10:26.25Tekkubthank you, please don't come back
10:26.28cladhaireRaydenUni: no mana burn?
10:26.29Kerafyrmlol
10:26.42RaydenUnino
10:26.49RaydenUnipain supression?
10:26.51RaydenUniwhat on earth for?
10:26.57RaydenUniis this for pvp?
10:26.58Tekkubfor...uh...
10:27.03Tekkubsupressing?
10:27.06cladhaireyes, like i said.
10:27.10RaydenUnioh
10:27.12cladhaire...
10:27.15cladhairelol
10:27.20RaydenUnii haven't looked at pvp builds
10:27.20Kerafyrm/cast [target=focus] Shackle Undead (just make sure to set your focus target(I use Ctrl-F) before the fight starts)
10:27.29cladhairethere aren't many disc/shadow pvp builds that are heavier in disc
10:27.31TekkubKera... CF... :)
10:27.34cladhairethat's why i'm asking for opinions
10:27.35dreamssits targetable and does -treat so
10:27.35WobinKerafyrm: CF takes care of that for you
10:27.38RaydenUnii use Ctrl W and Ctrl E for my focus keys
10:27.40CIA-703kunda * r53927 10GridStatusHealingReduced/GridStatusHealingReduced.toc: GridStatusHealingReduced: TOC 20200
10:27.40dreamssis gonna get good
10:27.42KerafyrmAye aye.. i'm downloading it! gezzz guys!
10:27.43Kerafyrmlol
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10:27.48Tekkubtarget. click *focus* click *control(
10:27.50RaydenUniCF needs a page explaining what it is and how it works
10:27.58Tekkubclick *recontrol*
10:28.01RaydenUnii don't like to download mods with no "about" on principle
10:28.03dreamsssweet the newest nvidia drivers fixed my fullscreen windowed mode issue when alt tabbin >_<
10:28.04TekkubCF is ALPHA
10:28.11Wobinwell, it's fairly self explanatory
10:28.14Tekkubthen don't download it :P
10:28.16Wobinjust load it up and you'll se
10:28.17cladhairelike something such as this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxRMkhgtMtZZV0guMdoh
10:28.17KerafyrmI trust Tekkub..
10:28.18Wobine
10:28.23Kerafyrm:p
10:28.28RaydenUnii have enough mods as it is
10:28.39RaydenUnino shadowform...
10:28.39Tekkubdo you CC ever?
10:28.47RaydenUnithat means -10% shadow dmg and +10% physical dmg
10:28.48cladhaireoh shit
10:28.55cladhaireRaydenUni: you're clearly not listening to me.
10:28.57cladhaireso i'll stop now
10:29.00KerafyrmWTB HOLY FORM!
10:29.02Kerafyrmkthanx
10:29.04Kerafyrm;)
10:29.07cladhairebut not having vampiric touch would kill me
10:29.19TekkubHoly priests should have a white aura around them at all times
10:29.20Wobins'true
10:29.22RaydenUniwhat am i not listening to?
10:29.24Wobinholy form would rock
10:29.31Tekkubthey should GLOW as their 40 talent
10:29.40KerafyrmI really really hope they consider it
10:29.45KerafyrmThey did it for dr00ds
10:29.47cladhaireRaydenUni: I said, from the start that I'm asking about the viability for a PVP build heavy in disc, with no shadowform.. so I can heal reliably.
10:29.52KerafyrmI have a feeling they'll do it for priests
10:29.54RaydenUnioh
10:29.56cladhaireyou've already have three revelations of things, I've already said.
10:30.01RaydenUnii didn't see the healing part
10:30.04cladhaireits like talking to a wall :P
10:30.09Kerafyrmlol
10:30.11cladhairebut without vampiric touch I'd cry
10:30.13cladhaireso no go.
10:30.25RaydenUniyou didnt' mention no healing before
10:30.27Tekkubhe's not had the revalation to just shut up and install CF either :P
10:30.29RaydenUninot at the beginning at least
10:30.55RaydenUniyou just said not deep into shadow
10:31.12RaydenUniso it's really not a shadow build
10:31.16cladhaireand said that i need to heal in 2v2, and i can't do that in shadowform
10:31.18RaydenUniit's a disc healing build with some damage
10:31.23TekkubI'm hungry...
10:31.25cladhaireit doesn't matter
10:31.27cladhaireconversation over :P
10:31.31cladhairethanks for the opinions
10:31.42Tekkubclad... my opinion....
10:31.45Tekkubdon't PvP
10:31.54RaydenUnionce the new disc tree comes out this will all be irrelevant anyways
10:31.57cladhairewell, i'm GMT, my guild is GMT-5
10:32.01cladhaireso, PVE is a no-go
10:32.04Tekkubyou're epeen dwarves us all, we can't take more
10:32.05cladhairenot to mention, I have no time
10:32.10cladhaireand i hate you
10:32.20RaydenUnimy guild is -8GMT and i'm -5GMT. just finished KZ at 5am
10:32.22RaydenUni:D
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10:32.40cladhairegrats, i dont' have that luxury :P
10:32.51cladhairea 3 hour difference might be managable.. but 5 hours is not.
10:32.51RaydenUnii have class at 8am
10:33.00RaydenUniso i took a 5 hour nap earlier
10:33.09TekkubI have luxury... I don't get up till 2PM
10:33.11cladhaireawesome?
10:33.17TekkubI code for like 4-5hr a day
10:33.23Tekkub(for money)
10:33.51RaydenUnii should get an hour sleep
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10:42.25Kerafyrmyummy microwave burritos
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10:55.31CIA-7ProfessionsBook:
10:55.31CIA-7-Fixed a nil error in PB_DB.lua line 938
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11:05.58CIA-7BunchOfBars:
11:05.58CIA-7- removing the old "Hots" module
11:06.43CIA-703Firik * r53931 10BunchOfBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:06.43CIA-7BunchOfBars:
11:06.43CIA-7- new "Buffs" module (more fitting name) to replace the "Hots" module
11:06.43CIA-7- the "Buffs" module now shows a dynamic amount of buffs instead of the old static 5
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11:33.56CIA-7BunchOfBars:
11:33.56CIA-7- added support for blizzards buildin maintank table
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11:50.40CIA-703ammo 07Ace3 * r53937 10SmoothDurability/SmoothDurability.lua: SmoothDurability: fix typo in slashcommand
11:50.58Poul|Raiderdoes all wow clients run by 24hour format ?
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11:52.09IndustrialWHAT?
11:52.15Industrialoops caps
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12:12.47Poul|Raiderhttp://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1436/raidertool5nov2007cu3.png :)
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12:43.25KazieAnyone keen on eePanels?
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12:46.11ramozasd
12:46.20ramozdid someone die?
12:49.07KazieNo idea.. but are you keen on eePanels? ^^
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12:55.23Nefarionwhat?
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13:00.08Frittiwhat was the bot command for armory char display?
13:00.32Kaziecan someone tell me how i can make 1 eePanel be ontop of another??
13:02.01Nefarionwe've hit a new low. people are cheering this bitch on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOIYsGVyg8M .
13:02.17Nefarion!c us server name
13:02.19ThraeBotNefarion: name is not the character you are looking for!
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13:02.24Nefarionor i guess eu?
13:04.13CIA-703punkie * r53938 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Add an option to enable or disable focus monitoring.
13:05.44Funkeh`Punkie`afk, FOCUS MONITORING?!? WTF?!?
13:10.42Orionshockfinaly
13:10.50Orionshockepic flight form quest done
13:11.54Nefarionhaha win http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kalganism&defid=2631716
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13:19.36KazieAnyone here who are eePanels experts? :)
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13:23.18ZealotOnAStickPunkie`afk: request for Demon, please allow for SML selection of font.
13:23.47CIA-703jayhawk * r53939 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua):
13:23.47CIA-7FuBar_PetInfoFu:
13:23.47CIA-7- update to KillXP; added XP tool tip by click on XP Needed line in fubar tooltip
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13:27.55CIA-7FuBar_PetInfoFu:
13:27.55CIA-7- updated notes and toc
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13:45.27CIA-703damjau * r53941 10WhoDrop/ (3 files): WhoDrop - add Ethereum Prison drop data.
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13:51.12Zariel-MOONBASEis there any write up on making slash commands and parsing the arguments into a table?
13:53.06_raneany tips on how to get wowhead talent hash programmatically from an armory talents url?
13:56.00Tornhoofask them ;)
13:56.27CIA-703ananhaid * r53942 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua:
13:56.27CIA-7BigWigs:
13:56.27CIA-7- zhCN update
13:57.21NefarionZariel-MOONBASE, what are you looking to de exactly?
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13:57.36Zariel-MOONBASEits ok got it :)
13:57.42Zariel-MOONBASEthanks tho
13:57.50Nefarionah okay, np
13:57.54Zariel-MOONBASEadding values from a slash command to a table
13:58.03Zariel-MOONBASEdid it but dont understand how it works totaly
13:58.31[Ammo]split string on space
13:58.36[Ammo]table created automagically :)
13:58.58Zariel-MOONBASE:) o.0 now to dive into saved variables
14:00.06Zariel-MOONBASEif i specify a SV file will wow create it and play with it?
14:00.17Nefarionumm
14:00.27Nefarionwhat?
14:00.37[Ammo]you have ## SavedVariables: pornovar
14:00.51Zariel-MOONBASEye
14:01.00[Ammo]then you can access pornovar in game with: if not pornovar then pornovar = {} end
14:01.05[Ammo]after that just add values to it
14:01.15[Ammo]the pornovar variable will be saved for you automatically
14:01.16Zariel-MOONBASEcheers very much
14:01.17Nefarionor * pronovar = pornovar or {} *
14:01.25[Ammo]yeah that's shorthand
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14:01.30[Ammo]you have to check if it exists or not though
14:01.31Nefarionbut note:
14:01.52Nefarionthe SVs are only available after the event ADDON_LOADED (for your addon) or VARIABLES_LOADED
14:01.54nevcairielpronovar = pornovar or {} <-- one extra assigment if the var already exists, phear the bloat :D
14:02.06[Ammo]:)
14:02.17Nefarionso setting anything before that will result in it being lost, and accessing it before that will result in a nil error
14:02.41Zariel-MOONBASEok
14:02.42[Ammo]that's why stuff like AceDB etc were created
14:02.42[Ammo]to handle that magic for you
14:02.45Zariel-MOONBASEthen just create tables like normally
14:03.00Zariel-MOONBASEace is a bit much for what im writing :)
14:03.06[Ammo]just fill your DB then yeah
14:03.08Nefarionyeah dealing with saved var shit is the most annoying thing about making addons
14:03.40Nefarionthey work like any variable, but if you're storing more than 1 or 2 things it's much better to use a table
14:04.40Nefarionanyone got any nice, neat *minimalistic* UIs? I need some ideas...
14:05.23[Ammo]rm -rf Interface/AddOns
14:05.24[Ammo]done
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14:05.44Zariel-MOONBASEawsome ammo :D
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14:06.00Josh_BorkeNefarion: what ammooo said
14:06.08Nefarion-.-
14:06.57Nefarionand by minimalistic i mean visually minimalistic, not light on addon usage.
14:07.06Nefarionthe default ui is bloated as shit
14:07.23Tornhoofhide the ui :)
14:07.37[Ammo]rm -rf Interface/AddOns start game, ctrl-z
14:08.06Nefariondon't be sarcastic dammit  ><
14:08.39[Ammo]http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.0   181 pages of UI's enjoy
14:09.54KazieAnyone who might know why i cannot parent a eePanel to another eePanel all of a sudden? .. i just did with 2 other sets
14:09.56Zariel-MOONBASEget sage bongos and bagnon
14:09.58Zariel-MOONBASEjob done
14:10.46Kazienvm
14:10.59Nefarionmake sure the parent has a lower eePanel index than the child. if you try to parent eePanel7 to eePanel10, you'll probably end up with the error that eePanel10 doesn't exist yet on reload.
14:11.13Nefarionor so i'd assume
14:11.25Fritti!c eu Earthen Ring Ithor
14:11.30ThraeBotFritti: Ithor, Level 70 Human Paladin (15/46/0). 11537 HP; 4728 Mana; 91 mana regen; 5 mp5; 13046 Armour; 626 AP; 90.400 Melee DPS; 4.81% melee crit; 8 spell hit; 176 +spell dmg/heal; 341 defense; 19.47% dodge; 14.10% block;[[ TBR: 346 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2agw3a ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ct39h ][ Updated: Mon Nov  5 05:15:58 2007 EST ]]
14:11.32KazieI found out the problem
14:11.33Frittithanks
14:11.57KazieIf i change the backgound color before parenting a panel to another panel it will return an error
14:12.10KazieHowever if i parent before color change it works.. wierd tho :s
14:12.26Nefarionthat shouldn't happen though. post that up in the eePanels topic..
14:12.50KazieOkay
14:13.17Frittioi, that's 341 defense _rating_, not 341 defense
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14:32.40Stanzillahm fisheye is still down?
14:34.47Obelixprim1fisheye?
14:35.53Stanzillahttp://fish.wowace.com/
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14:43.54Zariel-MOONBASEhmmm <3 Eset Smart Security
14:44.08CIA-703ananhaid * r53943 10BigWigs/ (SC/Lurker.lua TheEye/Reaver.lua):
14:44.08CIA-7BigWigs:
14:44.08CIA-7- zhCN update
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14:45.08Zariel-MOONBASEfucking writing addons totaly ruins your leveling experiance
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14:46.35Cartas~seen Xuerian
14:46.38purlxuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-134-001.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 23h 28m 36s ago, saying: 'I drink tap water :p. Is well water, though.'.
14:46.53Cartas:o
14:49.28hasteZariel-MOONBASE: it's more like: Leveling sucks... hey! writing on this piece of code is fun *hours pass*
14:50.03Zariel-MOONBASEyup
14:51.37CartasYou're just casual gamers.
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14:53.17Zariel-MOONBASEi have this really annoying bug with my keyboard, sometimes a butting just repeats its self for about 1 second
14:53.19Zariel-MOONBASEgrrr
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15:11.34Nefariondoes the api UIFrameFadeIn expect the frame to be hidden or shown with an alpha of 0?
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15:25.42Pkekyojesus titty fucking christ....a history professor writing a paper about Illuminati, and he does not even fucking know how to spell it
15:26.00LothaerROFLMAO
15:27.15Pkekyoin his entire paper, it's written "IlluminaTUS" (disregard caps, just for emphasizing)
15:27.54Pkekyothe most related thing you can find if you search for 'illuminatus' on google is a SATIRICAL triology of sci-fi novels
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15:28.57Pkekyofucking pisses me off so bad... I'm an 18 year old student of media and communications...I should not have to correct a history professor to such an extent
15:29.49Lothaerwell he isnt a English teacher ROFL
15:30.00Pkekyohe's also comparing conspiracytheorism to worshipping satan
15:30.38PkekyoLothaer: no, but what does that have to do with anything? as a professor you should atleast KNOW THE NAME OF the subject you're writing about
15:30.52CIA-703mikk 07Beta * r53944 10Ace3/AceComm-3.0/AceComm-3.0.lua:
15:30.52CIA-7Ace3 - AceComm:
15:30.52CIA-7- Remove error() on data received from outside sources
15:30.57Lothaeri was paying him ou tlol
15:30.58NightHawkTheSanenot to say he's right or wrong, but it's not exactly valid to judge the correctness of something based solely on a google search.
15:31.32Lothaerany1 who is reaserching a subject should atleast know who to spell what their researching
15:31.36Lothaerhow*
15:31.43zacthe biggest problem with freshman is they think they know everything :)
15:31.46Lothaeri alwasy get those to mixed up when im typing lol
15:31.58PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: ever seen any referances to "illuminatus" anywhere at all?
15:31.58Pkekyonow compare that number to how many times 'illuminati' has popped up on your radar
15:32.32Pkekyozac: I know far from everything, nor am I a 'freshman'...but I know this, and imo, a bloody professor ought to know what he's researching before publishing his paper
15:32.34NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: i'm not a history professor, or even stunningly interested in history, or the illuminati, so I'm not qualified to answer that question. :P
15:33.17NightHawkTheSaneI'm just saying, google isn't the be-all-end all, especially for historical research and information.
15:34.19Pkekyoofcourse it's not, but as I know this subject to a certain extent, I find it baffling, to say the least, that someone could get themselves to publish something like that
15:34.28LothaerIlluminatus Minor
15:34.35Pkekyoalso: none of the characteristics you listed applies to me either
15:35.29PkekyoLothaer: ...?
15:36.03LothaerThe Illuminati's members pledged obedience to their superiors, and were divided into three main classes: the first, known as the Nursery, encompassed the ascending degrees or offices of Preparation, Novice, Minerval and Illuminatus Minor. The second, known as the Masonry, consists of the ascending degrees of Illuminatus Major and Illuminatus dirigens.
15:36.11Lothaerfrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
15:36.23NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: but the question still remains, is your only basis for judging him wrong to be searching google and your own anecdotal knowledge of the subject? If so, then really, you're at worst making wild and baseless claims, and at best, just whinging.
15:36.27Pkekyo"The Illuminati's members" <---- confirms what I've been saying all along
15:36.38Lothaerread further
15:37.15LothaerIlluminatus, discriptive, sections of ranks
15:37.25Pkekyo"Illuminatus Minor" is the name of a rank within the Illuminati organization....this does in no way contradict what I've been saying all along
15:37.55Lothaermaybe the paper is not on the Illuminati but rather their ranks
15:37.56Lothaer???
15:38.03Pkekyono it's not
15:38.05Lothaerwouldnt know havnt read the paper
15:38.11Pkekyoit's about the illuminati organisation
15:38.22Lothaerwere did u read this paper?
15:38.26Lothaerid like to give it a glance
15:38.26Pkekyohe's using "illuminatus" as an umbrella for the entire organisation and whatever associated with it...
15:38.26Pkekyoyou've been doing research for less than five minutes now, and you're allready doing ALOT better than the bloody history professor...just wrong imo
15:38.34PkekyoLothaer: was published in a norwegian newspaper
15:38.39LothaerLOL
15:39.04Pkekyogive me a minute and I'll find out what university he's affiliated with
15:39.30Lothaerwhats the professors name?
15:40.03Lothaeror even better the name of the paper
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15:40.17PkekyoProfessor Øystein Sørensen - Institute of archeology, conservation(translation?) and historical studies, The University in Oslo
15:40.41Pkekyocan't find the name of the paper anywhere
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15:41.25Pkekyoseems he wrote an entire book about the subject, actually
15:41.59Pkekyobook's named [translated from norwegian] 'The Greatest Conspiracy' or 'The Moder of All Conspiracies'
15:42.30Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
15:42.48Lothaermeh
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15:43.08Pkekyoif I could afford the trip to Oslo, I'd track him down and slap the shit outta him
15:43.16LothaerLMFAO
15:43.21Matrix110roflmao the ads in WAU...for a invisible tooth aligning system
15:43.34Lothaerdid u read about the "teach Asians English through WoW" thing?
15:43.36Pkekyothe smacktard consequently used 'illuminatus' throughout the entire damned book as an umbrella for the illuminati organisation
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15:45.37Pkekyoprofessors suck lol
15:45.46Lothaerread this http://thejournal.com/articles/21380_1
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15:46.35Pkekyothat sounds like a plan tbh
15:46.52PkekyoI basicly learned english by watching reruns of Fresh Prince In Bel Air as a child
15:47.04LothaerLF3M Kara PST" wnglish? rofl
15:47.18Lothaerenglish*
15:47.27Pkekyox)
15:47.34Pkekyobtw, PST?
15:47.43LothaerPlease Send Tell
15:47.52Lothaerwhisper
15:48.38Lothaerthey'd learn more english from my Chuck Norris spams in trade shannel LOL!!!
15:48.56Pkekyorofl, "shannel" indeed
15:48.59Lothaeryeah i know my typing sucks ass
15:49.10PkekyoI was like that this morning
15:49.19Lothaerwell it is 2am here
15:49.20Pkekyothen I drank 2l of coffee
15:49.23Pkekyoand then I was okay again
15:49.26LothaerROFL
15:49.29Pkekyohadn't slept for about 60hrs
15:49.34Lothaerwhy?
15:49.43Pkekyodon't really know tbh
15:49.55Pkekyojust had stuff to do, I guess
15:50.00Lothaeryeah playing wow sure makes the time fly by
15:50.05Cartaslol
15:50.13PkekyoI hardly play wow anymore at all
15:50.14CartasTimes always flies by, Lothaer!
15:50.30PkekyoI take part in the occasional gruul's wipefest, other than that...meh
15:50.42CartasDo you play anything else?
15:50.48Pkekyohardly
15:50.51LothaerLife?
15:50.54CartasIt seems that a lot of people who play WoW don't play many other games :S
15:50.59Pkekyoplayed portal for a couple of days when the orange box launched
15:51.00CartasCASUALS, the lot of 'em.
15:51.06PkekyoLothaer: jes I has it
15:51.15Lothaerno
15:51.16LothaerROFL
15:51.35Lothaeri also play Final Fantasy every know and them, im yet to finish FF12 though
15:51.44Pkekyostudies and photography is hogging all my bloody time
15:51.55Lothaerahh the life of a student
15:52.10Lothaerlots of last minute cramming huh?
15:52.26Pkekyoindeed
15:52.38PkekyoI'm constantly two days behind on my work, it seems
15:52.40Lothaercoffee would be ur best friend atm lol
15:52.45Pkekyotrust me, it is
15:52.53Lothaerlol
15:52.55Lothaerheres what you do
15:52.58Pkekyocoffee for breakfeast, lunch and dinner
15:53.02Pkekyothat's what I do
15:53.14Pkekyoand for in-between-meals snacks
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15:53.45Lothaerswallow a table spoon of coffee and follow it with a mouth full of coke
15:54.00Pkekyococa cola or cocaine?
15:54.05Lothaercoca colo lol
15:54.08Lothaercola*
15:54.15Pkekyomeh, I don't drink coke
15:54.25Lothaerpepsi or what ever
15:54.26Pkekyoone day, it just started tasting sod-all
15:54.38PkekyoI don't drink any cola-drinks, actually
15:54.48CryectDamn people who coffee wakes up actually :_p
15:54.52Lothaerit will wake u up and give ya a very good buzz
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15:55.15Pkekyothat's what the cocaine's for ;>
15:55.21Lothaer.... /slap
15:55.24Pkekyorofl
15:55.27Pkekyoj/k
15:55.28Lothaeru meen speed
15:55.42Pkekyonah, no speed going 'round here actually
15:55.49Lothaerlol
15:56.01Lothaerany hard core PvPers here?
15:56.23Pkekyolot of cocaine and hasj (translation?).... not much other than that though
15:56.34Ordogamphetamine like drugs are actually cool for pvp because you just need to slam buttons fast
15:56.48Lothaergo through keyboards real quick though
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15:57.08Ordogget a steel plated keyboard ?
15:57.09Lothaer*cough*crazy german wow kid*cough*
15:57.15PkekyoI need to learn the international names of drugs /boggle
15:57.21xerawxstrong cup of tea or five works for me
15:57.30xerawxnot as hard to come by or expensive either :D
15:57.44Obelixprim1letting two teabags sit in a small mug makes me wake up
15:58.02Lothaerand tea is supposed to have more caffiene too
15:58.04BruneraPkekyo: hash/hashish
15:58.06Pkekyoteabagging someone with small jugs wakes me up tbh
15:58.16OrdogLothaer: g'day mate
15:58.20LothaerG'Day
15:58.25Lothaerhows it goin?
15:58.26Pkekyooh, but I digress....
15:58.28Pkekyothanks Brunera
15:58.36Ordoghows spring in your hemisphere ?
15:58.50Lothaerraining
15:58.55Lothaerhows ur autum?
15:59.03Ordograining
15:59.06Lothaerrofl
15:59.15LukianLOL
15:59.16Lothaeralmost over though
15:59.18Lukian:p
15:59.24Lothaeritll probably rain here in summer too
15:59.42Lothaerso u guys een the ZA sets?
15:59.50Pkekyoindeed
15:59.53Lukianthey loot hawt
15:59.55Pkekyolooking forward to get my murloc plate
16:00.01LothaerROFL
16:00.41Pkekyothat warrior head better have some audio (murloc) tied to a hidden use function!
16:00.59Lothaeri wonder if blizzard will fix some of the new staffs ><
16:01.18PkekyoI wonder if blizzard will ever stop being such fucking twats
16:01.49Lothaeryeah very lazy huh using hte same shit all the time, atleast they made the old Zin'rhok skin look beeter on jin'rhok
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16:03.24Pkekyoindeed
16:03.43Pkekyonow I just hope we'll get Titan Grip for a talent in Wrap of the Lizard King so we can dualwield the new and old zin
16:03.53LothaerROFL
16:04.06Lothaeru watch rogues have a bitch fest when u do
16:04.46Lothaerimho Paladins should get that aswell
16:04.57LothaerGOD i want a Monk..... kick a fucking rogues ass with one of those
16:05.00sbmeh - some addon keeps freezing my wow for 2-3s from time to time :/ (since 2-3 weeks) - no idea which one to blame :/
16:05.08Lukianwrap of the lizard king? lol.
16:05.08sbas it happens only when raiding
16:05.09PkekyoLothaer: the proposed Titan Grip talent had a -50% damage penalty
16:05.21PkekyoLukian: it's mexican food!
16:05.55Lothaersb: turn half your mods off if its still there then keep turing half off until u find the culprit
16:06.04sbLothaer: i know
16:06.11sbbut thats not much fun when raiding... :o
16:06.29Lukiansb: or install a cpu profiling addon
16:06.29Pkekyohmm
16:06.32sbit happens 1-2 times in 4-5h :o
16:06.32PkekyoI should go make dinner
16:06.46sbso its kinda hard to track it down :/
16:06.48Pkekyooh well, I'll atleast head for the kitchen and _consider_ making dinner :) laters
16:07.10Lothaersb: i could jjust be server lag?
16:07.17sbmh dont think so
16:07.17Lothaeris it all raids or more the 25mans?
16:07.24sb25man
16:07.42Lothaerdo u have alot of addons?
16:07.46sbhappend twice in 4h kael'thas wiping (well - didnt cause any wipes, but it still sucks :o)
16:07.48sbyes :p
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16:08.24NimbalMorning everyone
16:08.25Lothaerpossible because ur runnong them all and ur CPU is working those plus hte animations of ur fellow raiders might be scausing it
16:08.51sbLothaer: well it happens if i actually DO something
16:08.58sbbut not reproducable
16:09.00sbe.g. using a trinket
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16:09.24sbquartz/parrot (or perhaps combination of them / different parsers...) - could be everything :p
16:09.38Lothaermaybe
16:10.04Lothaerill assume u have tried just truning on the mods u require for raids?
16:10.16Lothaerand leave the others off
16:10.20Lothaerwhiles raiding
16:11.02LukianI'd point at sb's suggestion or your damage meters
16:11.10Lukianparticularly recount
16:11.30Lothaeryeah i have noticed that when resetting recount that my UI will freeze tempoaraily
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16:12.00Lothaerwhat dmg meter would u suggest?
16:12.43Lukianviolation is the lightest
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16:12.54Lukianswstats is good if you need more detail
16:13.21Lothaeri like the features of SW_Stats but ive used it for ages time for sumthing new
16:14.03Lukiani haven't found anything to match it's reporting
16:14.04ulicI like assessment, but haven't tried the others in a few months.
16:14.05Josh_Borke<3 recount
16:14.19Josh_BorkeLukian: you don't think recount matches swstats in reporting?
16:14.25CryectLukian: what detail are you talking about in swstats?
16:14.31[Ammo]wowwebstats > * for detailed reports
16:14.38[Ammo]violation for simple ingame display
16:14.39LukianJosh_Borke, Recount shows incoming spell penetration?
16:14.42Josh_Borkewws can kiss my ass
16:14.58Josh_Borkewhat does incoming spell penetration mean?
16:15.08Lukianapproximated resists
16:15.21CryectIt shows outgoing, didn't add incoming :-p
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16:16.15Cryector does it show incoming it might
16:16.16Cryectcan't remember
16:16.30Funkeh`I hate recount, far too over bloated imo and its syncing system is awful
16:16.41LukianDoes is show damage done by skill breakdown?
16:16.45Funkeh`no1 reason for most disconnects and no1 reason for threat issues
16:16.48Cryectum yes Lukian...
16:16.57Lukianwell that's a start
16:17.01Josh_BorkeFunkeh`: tell us how you really feel
16:17.16Funkeh`Josh_Borke, feel better already!
16:17.20Josh_Borkei've not had problems with disconnects with recount
16:17.28Josh_Borkenot exactly sure what the threat issues are
16:17.30Cryectit shows way more detail than swstats
16:17.38Josh_Borkeanyone that uses recount for threat management is an idiot
16:17.54Funkeh`Josh_Borke, the threat issues are recount cramming so much shit into the sync channel threat-1.0 dies in transmission
16:17.54LothaerOmen for threat imho
16:17.54dylanmJosh_Borke: Why is that?
16:17.55LukianCryect, and I also saw it using 70MB ui memory usage with logging enabled :p
16:17.59Josh_Borkeimho, cryect should never have added threat to it :-P
16:18.21Lothaerhe is in channel u know?
16:18.25CryectThe threat was added for time based recording
16:18.38CryectIts been useful
16:18.44Cryector I found it useful a few times
16:19.08Funkeh`Any mac users tested MP3 files on ptr?
16:19.21Josh_Borkeyes i know cryect is in channel, taht's why i'm bitching so
16:20.10Cryectit was more an experiment than a serious damage meter meant for others
16:21.02Josh_Borkewell, i just use it for the deathlog really
16:21.07CryectI mean I personally found violation to be completely useless for anything unless you like going woot I'm #1 on a damagemeter
16:21.19Cryectdeathlog there is expiration
16:21.21Josh_Borkeisn't that what damage meters are for?
16:21.30Funkeh`idd..
16:21.34Josh_Borkemy pew pew is bigger than your pew pew
16:21.39Josh_Borkethough
16:21.45Cryecthmmm I prefer using them as a tool to figure out things
16:21.46Josh_Borkewhen your tank is doing more damage than DPS, something needs to change
16:22.10sbuhm Cryect - it rocks :o
16:22.14LukianViolation is a simple overview of damage / healing / burst dps etc
16:22.26Cryectyes too simple :-p
16:22.28Lukianfor that purpose, it's perfect to see who's slacking :)
16:22.39sbi love using recount, because you can see _everything_ (its like WWS (which i can use AFTER the raid) - but in 'realtime')
16:22.46Lukianit's intended to be simple! :D
16:23.19CryectAlso have to say Recount taught me memory usage in Lua has extremely high overhead on everything you do :-p
16:23.22sb"why did you heal xyz?" - "WTF - dont do any damage on xzc, focus on abc" - and stuff ;p
16:23.27Matrix110Recount alone is worth using because you can post our MT that he didnt get "no dmg" when he died mysteriously :P
16:23.45sbhehe yes
16:23.52sboh btw Cryect - any progress with relog? ;o
16:24.14CryectIts hard to work on addons with an unsubscribed WoW account :-p
16:24.26sbmhh right
16:24.27Matrix110"i got NO DMG AT ALL healers slacking" "recount shows 3hits in 0.5sec 2 of them crushings which take about 90% of his HP" :P
16:24.40Matrix110*took
16:24.54LukianCryect, when you log things, why does Recount use way more mem than swstats?
16:24.55Josh_Borkeor the deathlogs where the tank sat at 45% health for 3 seconds
16:25.03Josh_BorkeLukian: more details in recount
16:25.20CryectYeah Recount drills down more
16:25.22Lukianbut 10 times more data?
16:25.27CryectYes
16:25.32Lukianouch
16:25.33Cryectit stores another level of data
16:25.35Matrix110seriously stop careing about Memory if you have more than 768MB ram
16:25.47Cryectthe basic storage od data
16:25.55Cryectis who->Skill->on who
16:25.59sbme using vista, dont care about memory ;P
16:25.59Cryector something along those lines
16:26.03manymh. WTB wow dictd.
16:26.11Cryectwhere SWStats would just be Who->Skill or Who->OnWho
16:26.23Matrix110and memory cost <100euro for 4GB so just buy 1GB if you have less :P
16:27.09CryectAlso the time based data is somewhat high since its storing 6 number values every ~5 seconds for every entity its enabled for
16:27.12Matrix110and Recount stores timestamps to diffrentiate single fights
16:27.35Cryectyeah the storing of seperate fights really increased memory usage
16:27.39Zariel-MOONBASEhow do you find the index of a string in a table?
16:27.47Josh_BorkeZariel-MOONBASE: what?
16:27.55Zariel-MOONBASEi have the value and i need to find what index it is in the table
16:27.56Cryectum search the table for the string?
16:28.02Matrix110i forgot to reset Recount for whole Hyjal it stored QUITE alot data :P
16:28.06Josh_Borkefor k, v in pairs(tbl) do if v == str then return k end end
16:28.19Zariel-MOONBASEdanke
16:29.28Obelixprim1has anyone tried http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4615-Soundtrack.html
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16:44.34Wogroiplcan you configure Flexbar2 using Niagara?
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16:46.41LukianNiagra is such a cool addon
16:46.53KazieAnyone here keen on bartender3 ?
16:47.05LukianKazie, I use it
16:47.32KazieDo you know the variable or what it's called to check whether a bar is shown?
16:47.49Lukianno, sorry
16:48.29Kazieoh bollocks .. ^^
16:49.29ulicKazie: it's stored in the SV files, but you'd have to know which profile your using to dig down to get that information in game
16:50.17vrakdoes bigwigs come with the tbc raids built-in?
16:50.24Josh_Borkevrak: yes
16:50.30Josh_Borkevrak: old world raids are not included
16:51.22vrakJosh_Borke: i assumed it would be like that, since i could only see extras for pre-tbc stuff
16:52.33ulicpre-bc stuff is just in seperate addons that you can download, extras doesn't really have anything to do with BC or pre-BC
16:52.57nevcairielthat comment was pointless
16:53.04Funkeh`Kazie, I'm not sure what you mean by hidden, actually disabled? as in not used?
16:53.55Funkeh`as you can't check hidden status if you are using the hide w/o mouseover, since its not actually hidden iirc
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16:55.17vrakhmm, is there much difference between bongos and bartender?
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16:55.25Poofargh
16:55.25Poof=/
16:55.30Wogroiplwell I don't think you can configure FB2 with niagara :(
16:55.32PoofStill having random game freezes at some events =/
16:55.57Poof(The game just freezes up for a good... 2-10 seconds =/
16:56.07Poof(Repeating sound)
16:56.35LukianPoof, defragged lately?
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16:59.33LukianDeuceLog: fix to let DeuceLog work with the current Parser-3.0 work (untested but should work)
16:59.36Lukianhmm
16:59.54LukianIt records kills against me, but not the kills I do
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17:03.37NimbalWhat should be faster? Having a few dozen Event Handlers return after an if-statement (i.e. before doing anything but comparing) or having one Event Handler that dispatches the event to the appropiate receveiver by looking it up in a table?
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17:05.37NimbalOr, in other words, do table lookups cost more than calling several Event Handlers that return almost immediately?
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17:18.49cncfanaticsdepending where the event handlers are, they might be do table lookups too ?
17:20.08Pooferm. Ya Lukian
17:20.33PoofAnd, by events... I mean... sometimes when I kill a mob... Complete a quest... That kinda stuff.
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17:24.19Zariel-MOONBASEcan someone tell me why http://ace.pastey.net/76651
17:24.21Zariel-MOONBASEdoesnt work =/
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17:29.20Zariel-MOONBASEok adding an item link not an item name crashes the client
17:29.22Zariel-MOONBASEnot goo
17:29.24Zariel-MOONBASEgood
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18:20.15Zariel-MOONBASEi been writing this addon for so long ive forgoten to have lunch, and ive just eaten tea
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18:22.03CIA-703julith * r53949 10GridExtraBar/ (GridExtraBar.lua GridExtraBar.toc):
18:22.03CIA-7GridExtraBar:
18:22.03CIA-7- fixed the not-inverted-colors bug
18:22.11kenlyricfreeze it, then slice it you imbecile.
18:22.22NightHawkAtWorkthat, or make it nice and thick
18:22.36NightHawkAtWorkalthough i suppose that only works well with coffee
18:22.53CIA-703julith * r53950 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/GridStatusIncomingHealth.lua:
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18:56.50foxlitCan I identify AceDB-managed tables somehow, or are they more or less indistinguishable from normal global tables?
18:58.52CryectCould check if its a metatable with getmetatable
18:59.00Cryectwon't tell you if its aceDB of course
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19:28.48Silviu-Cryect ppl are missing u on forums :P\
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19:30.38NightHawkAtWorkyou seem to have plenty of 'u's, seems like your missing y's and o's. and e's.
19:32.36JoFuoh good to see you Cryect, we thought something bad might happen to you
19:34.31JoFuguys, I'm looking for a buff addon, I want to centralize/seperate specific buffs like "Clearcasting" or "Water Shield"
19:34.54JoFudo you know such an addon ?
19:36.01durcynElkBuffBars can filter, but it will take a bit of configuration
19:36.29PaeneAnyone know why a menu I've created won't show up when I click the menu button in combat?  It's a menu of SecureActionButtons
19:37.13JoFudurcyn: thank you, I'll have a look on it
19:37.41PaeneEssentially what I'm doing is having the buttons hidden, then in the XML's OnMouseUp, I call Show() on each button
19:38.58PaeneI'm assuming either you can't call Show() in combat, or the XML's OnMouseUp can't be called in combat
19:42.16hyperChipmunkPaene: the former
19:46.09Paeneso how would I go about making a menu that I can use in combat?
19:46.19PaeneI see SecureAnchorUpDownTemplate
19:46.22Paenebut no documentation for it
19:49.14hyperChipmunkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/2.0_consolidated_changes
19:49.19hyperChipmunkProgramatic modification of macros, key bindings, and the action bar page only allowed outside of combat.
19:49.26hyperChipmunkAction buttons and targeting frames are now "protected". Protected frames cannot be programmatically moved, shown or hidden, or have their attributes (unit, action, etc) changed during combat.
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19:53.09Paeneso how do other mods create pop-up menus of buttons?
19:54.20SarozHAHA azgalor has an enrage
19:54.22Sarozwe found out :p
19:55.13Wobin_Paene: I'd get the addon kit, and view the code for SecureStateHandler et al
19:55.24Wobin_All the documentation is in the code comments
19:55.50Wobin_It's not overly clear, mind you, and may take some reading to understand
19:56.15Paeneah kk
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19:58.00Wobinhehe I -still- don't understand it =P
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19:59.41omegawhats a good place to start when one wants to begin developing graphical addons?
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20:02.02DaemonahyperChipmunk i still hate em for that changes... i can drag around abilities on my bars in combat :( suxx
20:02.24Ominous~seen kergoth
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20:07.46Wobinomega: what sort of addons?
20:08.59omegaWobin: like an addon that can show a window, with a list and a text-edit area
20:09.06omegafor a very simple notetaking addon
20:09.12omegabasicly to learn how to do it
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20:20.27Gnarfozcan you tank Leotheras with Nether Protection?
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20:22.24Cryectplay around with creating fake addons at first to get a feel for the graphics API
20:22.28Cryectwhoops
20:22.32Cryectdamn I was scrowled up
20:23.40omegayes, but where do I start learning the graphics api? :p
20:25.57Cryectwowwiki
20:26.20CryectUnfortunately no really useful tutorials etc
20:26.22CIA-703funkydude * r53953 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Azgalor.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/Azgalor: Bugfix enrage, wow that's been there a while :)
20:29.33JoFuCryect did you quit Recount development ?
20:30.22CIA-703lilsparky * r53954 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (4 files):
20:30.22CIA-7LilSparkysWorkshop:
20:30.22CIA-7- added value tooltip info
20:30.42CryectI quit WoW
20:30.45omegais it recommended to do the GUI in an XML-file, or as programticly creating the frames?
20:30.48JoFuI see :)
20:30.56CryectDo it in Lua
20:31.17Cryectcan create things much more modular based with Lua instead of XML
20:31.24omegaok
20:31.40CryectOften better to create a table of values or something and then run that through a function that creates the necessary items
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20:32.15omegamhm
20:32.16CryectAlso with XML if there is any bug in your XML code the entire thing won't work
20:32.24Cryectand won't give you an error message that you can easily find
20:32.54omegaaha, nice tips
20:34.20omegahttp://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ seems to be showing both side by side, I think I'll try that as a start
20:35.32Cryectlooks alright else than it doesn't actually explian what the lines mean really
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20:35.51omegano, but its to some extent self explanatory
20:36.01CryectHeh, yes
20:36.09omegaf:SetWidth(80); f:SetHeight(20);
20:36.11Cryectgood thing blizzard doesn't name functions strnagely
20:36.17omegatheres only so many things that can do :p
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20:37.37omegacan I "inherit" from standard wow ui frames? in particluar the QuestLog?
20:38.37Cryectyeah the fourth arg of CreateFrame is the inherit frame
20:39.51cladhaireassuming there is a template
20:40.58omega<Frame name="QuestLogFrame" toplevel="true" enableMouse="true" movable="true" parent="UIParent" hidden="true"> doesn't say virtual, and that makes it not a template?
20:41.11Cryectright has to be virtual
20:45.27CIA-703ominous * r53955 10!SurfaceControl/ (!SurfaceControl.toc SurfaceControl.lua): !SurfaceControl: now works with LibSharedMedia-2.0
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20:50.11GnarfozCryect: any plans on unquitting wow? :>
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20:57.28Tukshello everyone
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21:03.53aestilKT Dead guys.
21:03.58NimbalCan anyone think of a temporary weapon enchant that has charges?
21:04.07Ellipsisgrats aestil
21:04.11aestilthats pretty respectable for a casual 12 hours a week raiding guild IMO.
21:04.29aestilellipsis.  we off night SSC starting tuesday
21:04.36WobinNimbal: nothing any longer?
21:04.47Ellipsismy guild downed lurker last night without me =[
21:05.12EllipsisI get invited to wipe nights, but not actual kills...bleh
21:05.52aestillurker is a pussy
21:05.55aestilgood for your guild though
21:05.56NimbalWobin, that would be great. But I'd like to be sure. But since nobody seems to know such a buff, I'll just risk a "buff xyz doesn't show any charges" comment.
21:05.59aestilnew kills are important.
21:06.04aestilbut lurker is a pushover boss.
21:06.08WobinNimbal: I guess you could count the runes of warding/shielding
21:06.13aestillearning and killing hydross is the real challenge in SSC IMO
21:06.17Wobinthey absorb a certain amount before stopping
21:06.26aestilif you can kill hydross.  you can easily handle everything, til Vashj.
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21:06.38xyuDid they change something in the test realm w/ attack power / dmg?   i'm sitting here on the PTR,  and on live.  (warrior)  i have same stats, str, agi etc.  same talent builds, yet on PTR my base dmg and attack power are different.  (same stances)  
21:06.41xyuam i missing something? heh
21:06.54xyuoh n/m i found it
21:07.35kadrahilyou were looking at melee on one and ranged on the other? :D
21:07.35xyunah,  i changed my enchant slot on shoulder on the PTR :P
21:07.36xyuforgot
21:07.36kadrahilhappened to me once actually, i was like what the crap happened to my RAP and crit
21:07.36Nimbalwobin, But these are not weapon buffs that can be queried with "GetWeaponEnchantInfo", are they?
21:07.38kadrahiland i was looking at melee, not ranged, and it took me at leat 10 minutes to figure that out
21:09.44Paeneargh, SecureStateHeader is confusing as all heck
21:10.02NimbalNah, seems like they are regular buffs when they show up. Thanks, Wobin.
21:11.16omegaCryect++ # for helping a newbie understand gui programming in wow
21:12.11PaeneAnyone know of any tutorials for the secure templates?
21:19.47NivFreakhrmmm
21:19.56NivFreakis there something that can parse a combat log and graph rage?
21:20.17Antiar2http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766069928&sid=1
21:20.19Antiar2Oh thank god.
21:20.40NivFreakno shit
21:22.10omega<PROTECTED>
21:22.16NightHawkAtWorkIts things like that that ultimately prove WoW is a pve game with pvp stapled to the side, kicking and screaming.
21:22.20omegaany quick tips to easy ways to do stuff like that?
21:22.30omega"pick this value if its true/defined, else pick that value"
21:23.21omega"or" might be a good pointer
21:23.21NightHawkAtWorkomega: "condition and valueIfTrue or valueIfFalse" works as a ternary operator, i believe
21:25.17omegaanother good tip: Show LUA Errors
21:25.51omegaNightHawkAtWork: yeah, works perfectly
21:26.15CIA-703ag 07Ace3 * r53956 10ag_UnitFrames/ (11 files in 10 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: drycoded locales for everything, no more fake ones :D!
21:26.56aestilag, is this ace3 agUF built off of an Ace3OO?
21:27.43ag`no
21:27.49ag`I don't use an OO lib anymore
21:28.03ag`It's still "OO" though
21:28.08ag`just some metatable action
21:30.17CIA-703nimbal * r53957 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua:
21:30.17CIA-7.SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0:
21:30.17CIA-7* all (de)buff gain, loss, refresh and count-changed events now have the (de)buffIndex as a unique identifier in their argument list. This way, multiple stacking buffs (HoTs, Rogue poison) can be distinguished
21:30.17CIA-7* added "SpecialEvents_PlayerItemBuffRefreshed" Event for when the weapon buff is reapplied
21:30.18CIA-7* "SpecialEvents_PlayerItemBuffGained" now has a "timeLeft" argument
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21:34.09Tuksquestion
21:34.21Tukshow can i get the rank of someone in my guild, based on the name?
21:34.27aestilits exciting to finally be able to move into HS tonight after so much time in SSC and TK.
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21:34.46aestilwe key'd 24 people on the first KT kill.
21:35.29Tuksanyone?
21:35.31OrionshockTuks: http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Guild_Functions
21:35.39Tuksthx man
21:36.21Orionshockwow-wiki it's ur friend
21:37.15Tuksim not familiar with it, jsut that
21:37.33Tuksi just need to add diferential DKP awards to DKP_Mon, and im having a hard time becouse im new to this
21:38.11ramozis there a addon to remove the voicechat icon and the shit in the middle of my screen? i have enough with the pitbull icons
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21:39.18ramozanyone? :O
21:40.39Orionshockmove it off screen?
21:41.08PaeneOk, to use SecureStateHeader to control visibility of my buttons, I have to create the buttons, set their positions, add them as children to the frame inheriting SecureStateHeader, and then do what?  Anyone able to help? :-/
21:41.57Orionshockiirc there is a full documentation in the SecureStateHeader file.
21:42.06PaeneI see it
21:42.10Paenebut I'm confused
21:42.16Orionshockkeep reading :D
21:42.56Paeneshowstates() show's the children?
21:43.15Paeneso would the buttons be the states?
21:43.23Paenethat's what's confusing me I think
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21:46.13Tukshow do i output something to the chat pannel? its for debug purposes
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21:48.52Ellipsisif you're using ace, you can do addonname:Print("string")
21:48.53NightHawkAtWorkAddMessage
21:49.12Ellipsisotherwise for a quick and dirty debug message just do ChatFrame1:AddMessage("string")
21:49.21CIA-703cncfanatics * r53958 10FlexBar2/Action/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: /fb actionlock & /fb actionunlock now default to all buttons
21:51.01CIA-703stormfx * r53959 10cyCircled_VolGold/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
21:51.01CIA-7cyCircled_VolGold:
21:51.01CIA-7- Initial Commit
21:51.01CIA-7- Vol Gold Skin for cyCircled
21:52.38aestildoes libshardedmedia 2.0 have a CL layer?
21:53.48NightHawkAtWorkchain lightning layer?
21:54.21Ellipsishah, neat bug
21:54.30Ellipsisapparently you can spawn as many minipets as you want at once
21:54.42Ellipsiseven multiples of the same pet
21:54.53CIA-703stormfx * r53960 10cyCircled_VolGold/:
21:54.53CIA-7cyCircled_VolGold:
21:54.53CIA-7- Add Externals
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21:55.44NightHawkAtWorkEllipsis: on ptr?
21:56.03Ellipsisno, live
21:56.08CIA-703stormfx * r53961 10cyCircled_VolGold/embeds.xml:
21:56.08CIA-7cyCircled_VolGold:
21:56.08CIA-7- Embeds.xml
21:56.13Ellipsisa guildie just did it and managed to crash his client by spawning too many
21:56.27Ellipsiswhen he logged back in a GM whispered him telling him to stop o.O
21:56.44aestilEllipsis: my guild > yours
21:56.46aestil:D
21:56.47Ellipsisapparently it causes lag for everyone in the area
21:57.20aestiloh, Ellipsis are you done with your ui? i never saw what you did with that art.
21:57.21Ellipsisaestil: your mom > mine
21:57.31manyhaha
21:57.32Ellipsiseh, it's in pretty much the same state as you last saw it
21:57.34aestilEllipsis: thats completley not true, your mom > mine
21:57.41aestilEllipsis: thats a big pile of fail.
21:57.44Ellipsiswaiting for FB2 pet bar to do final layout :(
21:57.54Ellipsisit's tough to mix and match two action bar addons
21:57.55aestilFB2... omg, complicated.
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21:59.06EllipsisFB2 makes me happy in the pants tbh
21:59.42aestilyou like complicated things.
21:59.49Ellipsisit's not that complicated
22:00.17aestilmuch more complicated than Bongos2 or BT3
22:00.20Ellipsisit does what I want and with minimal annoyance
22:00.37Ellipsisfeh, it's more complicated to achieve what I want with either of those
22:00.56aestili must nap.  i will be happy to continue this argument/discusion at a later time.
22:01.02aestilsay... 1.5 hours from now?
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22:06.13Ellipsiskk aestil
22:06.14EllipsisI'll be here...probably
22:06.14Ellipsisunless I decide I hate you
22:07.02NightHawkAtWorkyou say that like it's 50/50 either way.
22:07.23NightHawkAtWorkthen again, you ARE female arn't you, guess it would actually be that then.
22:10.20Ellipsisyup ^-^
22:10.32NightHawkAtWorkhaha http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/012330.html
22:11.02Ellipsislulz
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22:17.42KemayoEllipsis: The big problem, if we can call it that, with FB2 is that it has no defaults and no easy configuration.  Doubtless it is more flexible, but BT3 is just *easier*.
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22:22.06Finlater, then
22:22.16KemayoFin: I'm afraid that my workplace has a strict no-babymaking policy.
22:22.36Finaw, bugger
22:23.26Findid you catch what I said earlier btw? just thanks basically for, stuff
22:23.38KemayoI did, yes.  Thanks.  :D
22:24.00FinOK good
22:24.04Finshame about the babies
22:24.12KemayoThat's bureaucracy for you.
22:24.27FinI guess so
22:24.33EllipsisKemayo: I agree, BT3/Bongos are easier for typical users. I'm not a typical user. :P
22:24.46Finanyone else? since I'm free?
22:25.50Ellipsisbabies? yes please!
22:25.58Fin~o/  woooooooooooooooooooooooooo  /o~
22:26.14Fin~o/  it's so good it's so good it's so good it's so good it's soooooo goooooood  /o~
22:26.50FinI shall go fetch my horn, Elli
22:26.57Ellipsis:D
22:28.35CIA-703nimbal * r53962 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
22:28.35CIA-7Buffalo2 (branch):
22:28.35CIA-7* Major optimizations thanks to a more thorough use of SE-Aura
22:28.35CIA-7* PostTimerUpdate is now split into Buffalo2_Major_Tick (called once a second) and Buffalo2_Minor_Tick (called ten times a second, for smoother animations)
22:28.35CIA-7* Since buff.timeLeft is only updated once a second now, there is a function buff:GetExactTimeLeft. If you need the exact time for animating something, use this.
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22:30.18backbone87hi all
22:36.22sbpatch tomorrow???? :p
22:36.25JoshBorkeno
22:36.30sbnice! :P
22:37.28CIA-703starlon * r53963 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua:
22:37.28CIA-7DebuffAlarm:
22:37.28CIA-7- Added individual configurations per debuff
22:37.59aestildid they say 13th?
22:38.07aestilpeople on my guild forums are speculating 13th
22:38.48Ellipsisthey said not tomorrow which apparently means a week from tomorrow
22:38.53Ellipsisand you fail at naps
22:38.58aestilI do.
22:39.04aestili got started thinking.
22:39.14aestili have lol picture for you though
22:39.16aestilhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30872
22:39.18aestilthats not it.
22:39.21Ellipsis...fail
22:39.28aestilhttp://surl.se/gdud
22:39.28Ellipsisl2copy/paste
22:39.34aestileat me!
22:40.11Ellipsisinteresting
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22:40.23aestilbesides the lol factor of that screenshot, if you look at my target frame, i hate how the debuffs work.
22:40.24EllipsisI'm not quite sure what to think about the threat bar
22:40.37aestildid you read officer chat?
22:40.41aestil[read officer chat]
22:41.05aestilpull out threat bar is fail, but it has almost no customaization options.
22:41.09aestilso it just is how it is for now.
22:41.28Ellipsisyes but the height of yours disturbs me
22:41.38aestili tend to pull aggro.
22:41.42Ellipsissomething deep inside my brain says "YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG"
22:41.49aestili tend to do alot of damage.
22:41.52aestiland then pull aggro.
22:42.11aestilI pulled aggro twice and led all dpsers on last weeks KT attempts.
22:42.22Ellipsisl2soulsha..oh wait
22:42.23aestilhow can i fix my debuffs on target frame though?
22:42.27Ellipsishm
22:42.31Ellipsisare you using altaura?
22:42.33aestili want teh big row
22:42.36aestilon the bottom
22:42.38aestilof course.
22:42.44aestildo i look stupid?
22:42.46Ellipsiswell I've never used altaura :(
22:42.50aestil[trys to look smart]
22:42.54EllipsisI don't have problems with the default one
22:42.59deltronaltaura works better for me imo
22:43.07aestilyou can offset aura's from the UF with alt aura.
22:43.13aestilwhich is full of sex and orgasm
22:43.30EllipsisI have heard worrying things about lack of options for positioning/layout in altaura
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22:43.45aestilEllipsis: you can offset them from the UF
22:43.47aestilthats huge.
22:43.52aestili needed it and asked for so long.
22:43.56Ellipsisyeah, but I don't really care about that
22:44.01EllipsisI'm not crazy eepanels whore
22:44.04aestilbut thats because you don't have a penis.
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22:44.06Tuksits there any ace2 functino to get a Character Guild rank?
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22:44.09aestili'm not crazy
22:44.17EllipsisTuks, it's in the default API
22:44.22Ellipsisyou don't need ace to do it
22:44.23Tullercrazu!
22:44.30aestiltuller
22:44.35Tuksso i have to make a for to go over all the list and get the info?
22:44.39aestili am affraid of combaucterader or whatevery ou called it.
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22:44.54Tullercombuctor?
22:44.56aestilyes.
22:44.58aestilhow is it coming?
22:45.02Tulleryes
22:45.25Zariel-MOONBASEcan someone help me with why this check is returning the wrong value, http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/GetVendored/core.lua
22:45.26EllipsisTuks: if you want to list every guild member's rank? yeah, you'll need to loop over the list
22:45.29TullerI need to fix everything else, then i can work on it again :)
22:45.36Ellipsiswhat's a combuctor?
22:45.48JoshBorkeEllipsis: blows shit up
22:45.52NightHawkAtWorkcombuctor, i hardly know her?
22:46.01Zariel-MOONBASEjunkcheck() should return 1 if the item is in the table, 0 if it isnt
22:46.09Zariel-MOONBASEyet have had to reverse the check to get it to work
22:46.28TullerEllipsis: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9515.0
22:47.21Antiar2junkcheck() sounds like a fancy name for "nutshot"
22:47.47Zariel-MOONBASEmaybe it is :P
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22:49.12Ellipsishm
22:51.53aestilantiarc
22:51.59aestillook what you made me do!?
22:52.00Antiarcyo
22:52.04aestilhttp://surl.se/gdud
22:52.11aestillook how ugly my threat bar is!!!
22:52.23NeoTronfishing is probably the most boring mechanic in the game
22:52.40AntiarcWTB time to work on WoW addons :P
22:52.57aestilat least tell me you feel guilty
22:53.11AntiarcA ltitle!
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22:53.42aestilok.
22:53.53NightHawkAtWork(he's lying)
22:54.02NightHawkAtWork(he's actually laughing with glee at your misery)
22:54.10Stanzillawtb Antiarc that ports Threat to LibStub
22:54.26aestilbuu: ping
22:54.37Stanzilla:D
22:55.11Tullerhttp://www.dhs.gov/threat_level/current_new.gif
22:56.33NightHawkAtWorkTuller: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/k/1/conservative_threat_level.jpg
22:56.47aestilKT difficulty is not inline at all with his subosses.
22:56.56aestilanyone else wonder about that?
22:57.03Aens|SuperiorityKT is fine
22:57.30aestilperhaps you misunderstood the words I used in my sentence
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22:58.37Aens|Superiorityhis difficulty is reasonable.  When compared to the rest of the t5 content, he's the hardest of the bunch, but not by much.
22:58.52aestiluh, he's not much harder than VR?
22:58.57aestilor FLK?
22:59.21Zariel-MOONBASEto clear a table can you use for k,v in pairs(tbl) do table.remove(tbl,k) end
22:59.21Zariel-MOONBASE?
22:59.22Arrowmasteraestil: KT is harder than most of hyjal and bt
22:59.37Ellipsisbest. group. ever.
22:59.38aestilconsidering almost any shmuck guild can clear all of TK and all of SSC without being able to kill Vashj or KT, i think they did the progression of bosses wrong.
22:59.45Ellipsispally tank, 2 locks spamming SoC
22:59.47aestilArrowmaster: people tell us that.
22:59.55aestilArrowmaster: we will see tonigh.
22:59.57Ellipsisthe healer doesn't have anything to do until we get out of combat and life tap XD
23:00.00Aens|Superioritythe exact same can be said about illidan
23:00.01aestil24 people were key'd last night.
23:00.10sbArrowmaster: mhh well... winterchill trash is harder than boss :p
23:00.14Aens|Superiorityblack temple is an absolute free purp fest but only illidan is difficult
23:00.23Arrowmasterhope to do the same tonight, working on KT
23:00.26sbnajentus sucks w/ 6 healers :/
23:00.48aestilAens|Superiority: since BT is key'd to HS and that's key'd to TK/SSC, you can't at all say that 'any shmuck guild' can do it.
23:00.58Aens|Superiorityvashj is the hardest boss in SSC, kt is in the eye, archimonde is a huge step up in difficulty, illidan you actually have to try on
23:00.58aestilsince clearing BT means having cleared all of SSC and TK
23:01.15aestilmost guilds that kill mag shoudl be able to kill every subboss in SSC/TK
23:01.34Aens|Superiorityand your point is that the end boss of each raid instance should be a push over?
23:01.39aestilno.
23:01.51aestilmy point is that the sub bosses should scale in difficulty.
23:02.19CIA-7tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r662 10/trunk/Panda/DETooltip.lua: Panda - Add support for ItemRefTooltip
23:02.38aestilsupposedly, 24 people is plenty for rage winterchill?
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23:04.05sbits okay
23:04.14sbwe did it with 24 today (first time)
23:04.16Arrowmasterrofl http://files.filefront.com/SecondEyeFilmwmv/;8971955;/fileinfo.html
23:04.43sbbring enough AoE (but should be fine if you killed KT weapons with that group)
23:04.54aestilwe have, at most 4 AoE
23:04.59aestiland that is what we killed KT with
23:05.07sband trash is very aggro sensitive :/ (healers and stuff)
23:06.40aestili hate that I've run kara as many times as i have, and no freaking necklace would ever drop
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23:07.26sbshadow?
23:07.30aestilpriest.
23:07.36sboh - holy?
23:07.37aestil!c us darkspear aestil
23:07.40ThraeBotaestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8261 HP; 8760 Mana; 179 mana regen; 35 mp5; 105 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 931 +spell dmg/heal; 134 frost dmg (1065); 244 shadow dmg (1175); 80 fire dmg (1011); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1350 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Mon Nov  5 14:12:12 2007 EST ]]
23:07.54sbhm yes, that neck :p
23:07.56aestilhave blessings trinket
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23:08.02aestilso thats another 80 dmg
23:08.24sb!c eu khaz'goroth smb
23:08.26ThraeBotsb: Smb, Level 70 Undead Priest (19/42/0). 7141 HP; 9750 Mana; 437 mana regen; 166 mp5; 115 +spell dmg; 1800 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 652 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xqwsh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pzwgc ][ Updated: Mon Nov  5 14:12:58 2007 EST ]]
23:08.27sbno damage :/
23:08.47aestilwe should begin BT soon,  the gems in BT drop a pretty decent amount?
23:09.03CIA-703peragor * r53964 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:
23:09.03CIA-7GridStatusHealer:
23:09.03CIA-7- Small outstanding bugfix to the problem where a unit's status indicator would stay lit even if out-of-range.
23:09.07sbhmm, 3 in ~1.5h for us
23:09.17sband 8 heart of darkness in MH (trash)
23:09.20sbso its okay
23:09.59xerawxthe ptr is just making it harder to decide whether to spec shadow or holy if i start playing my priest again : \
23:10.11aestili wish they would change MF
23:10.24NivFreakxerawx: I took my shadow priest holy in anticipation of 2.3 :)
23:10.27Arrowmasterwe need more disc priests.... i want my PI bot back
23:10.27sbshadow priest is sooo mana potion intensive :/
23:10.28aestilit has 4 problems, 2 types of problems, one type is that it breaks on any dmg and has terribad range
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23:10.42sbso i like playing healer - not that much potions ;p
23:10.44NivFreak1750 healing so far
23:10.47NivFreakabout a week later
23:10.54aestilthe other type is that it has a shitty coefficient, and can't crit
23:10.55xerawxsp is very rough in pvp too and i'm gonna be spending a lot of time in BGs probably cause he's on a low pop server
23:11.08xerawxso i'm leaning towards disc/holy.. not sure i like deep disc
23:11.10aestiljust eliminate one of those from each catergory,and it makes shadow priests better.
23:11.13xerawxmiss the big heals too much
23:11.21CIA-7tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r663 10/trunk/ (tekilevel/tekilevel.lua tekIsStacked/tekIsStacked.lua): Adding ItemRefTooltip support to tekilevel and tekIsStacked
23:11.27NivFreakshadow priests were great before the dmg nerf
23:11.30NivFreakand SW:D nerf
23:11.35aestilwe are still great.
23:11.40xerawxthey're still awesome for raiding
23:11.45xerawxand solo
23:11.54aestilbut MF is balanced around its PvP snare effect.
23:11.56JoFuthey're a must have for raiding :)
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23:12.22aestilin PvE, the snare effect is essentially a waste
23:12.30xerawxi think MF should have same range as everything else
23:12.35aestilyes.
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23:12.41JoFuagree
23:12.42aestiland then it should eithe rbe able to crit
23:12.49aestilor it should have the correct coefficient
23:13.22xerawxyeah there's just a lot of little things like that which bug me about being shadow..  no aoe, no cc, no survivability
23:13.30aestili don't want AoE
23:13.37aestilI'm good, very good and single target DPS
23:13.59xerawxyeah if all you want to do is raid its awesome but some people find that boring
23:14.04aestilthe problem is, that MF's 1 great thing, its 'cheapness' goes out the window do to A) not being able to use it due to raid.
23:14.17aestils/raid/ranged
23:14.40aestilor b) it breaks on dmg and then its DPM plummets
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23:14.51xerawxor your getting beat on by melee in pvp and it only does 1 tick
23:14.56NivFreakwell
23:14.56xerawxand your shield is worthless
23:15.02NivFreakat least meditation is getting a buff in 2.3
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23:15.09NivFreakthat should help a bit on potting
23:15.12aestilyeah, that will make rading cheaper a bit.
23:15.16aestilbut that still doesn't fix MF
23:15.19xerawxnot as much as it will help holy but yeah
23:15.25xerawxmy shadow gear has practically no spirit
23:15.36xerawxbut then my priest is pretty undergeared by today's standards
23:15.40NivFreakI usually threat cap if I use VE as it is
23:15.45NivFreakbut no biggie, holy now!
23:15.55aestili don't VE, hardly at all.
23:15.59aestilmana battery.
23:16.03aestilVE is shit in raids imo.
23:16.09NivFreakVE is fantastic for many fights
23:16.12aestilalmost never, is it gonna save anyones life.
23:16.13Vozmosuseful in some fights
23:16.14NivFreakunless you're threat capped...
23:16.21xerawxits good in some fights
23:16.25Vozmosnetherspite for example
23:16.29aestilwe bring these classes called 'healers'
23:16.31genetik-i wish you could click off VE
23:16.31NivFreaknetherspite it's fantastic
23:16.32Vozmosi dunno about 25 man raids, haven't been to any
23:16.38NivFreakgruul it's great
23:16.42aestilall they do is 'heal'
23:16.44xerawxit can save healers mana AND time
23:16.57xerawxwhy not use it
23:17.00NivFreakyep
23:17.12aestilcause generally, it makes me threat cap.
23:17.20aestiland then people do less dmg, or have less mana to heal.
23:17.26NivFreakI wonder if I'd threat cap against myself tanking
23:17.29xerawxyeah you dont use it all the time
23:17.37aestilits ok on trash.
23:17.44aestiland on fights like mag, where tank has a good lead.
23:18.06aestilmost fights, i'm right up against the tank.
23:18.12aestilits doesn't help healers much
23:18.16aestilespecially since i dont' have imp VE :)
23:18.22NivFreakhaha
23:19.03NivFreakthis new shadow priest I recruited just broke 1K shadow dmg, and I was a bit shocked
23:19.11NivFreaksince his DPS is sorta low
23:19.19NivFreakturns out he doesn't use SW:D at all...
23:19.19genetik-bad rotation?
23:19.23genetik-heh
23:19.31KarlThePagani only swd during trinkets
23:19.34NivFreakhehe
23:19.41aestilI SW:D when it won't kill me
23:19.44NivFreakI only SW:D during enfeebles
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23:19.51KarlThePaganyeae I swd when it WILL kill me
23:19.51aestilI SW:D before I MB often, since its sooo ffreaking mana efficient
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23:20.02NivFreakI use SW:D every cooldown
23:20.06NivFreakunless I'm low on health
23:20.09KarlThePaganhmm
23:20.12aestili can't.  i would pull aggro.
23:20.15NivFreakwith VE up *cough*
23:20.16NivFreakit's easy
23:20.19KarlThePaganof course
23:20.23NivFreakaestil: tell your tank to l2threat
23:20.23NivFreak:)
23:20.35aestilmy tank is very good.
23:20.40NivFreakI'm teasing
23:20.42KarlThePaganwindfury? ;)
23:20.57aestilthats not an option for us.  we don't ahve enough shaman.
23:21.06NivFreakouch
23:21.09NivFreakWF is huge
23:21.19aestilwe have 1 for our DPS group
23:21.25NivFreakput your tank in the DPS group :)
23:21.45xerawxheh, my healing mace is actually better than my +dmg weapon for shadow with the 2.3 changes.. i think i'd be too embarassed to run around with that glowy epic healing mace in shadowform tho
23:21.48gnorlish1 shaman? :-/
23:21.50aestilthere is no way that VE or a few extra SW:D from me > than the 4th rogue in the DPS group.
23:22.03aestilat most 3.
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23:22.06buuaestil: Pong.
23:22.15NivFreakaestil: I doubt you're the only one that is threat capping
23:22.20aestil1 is elemental, 1 is resto, 1 is enhance
23:22.27aestilniv, i'm the only person who can't drop threat
23:22.36aestilbuu: why you kill FLK before morrogrim?
23:22.44buuaestil: We didn't.. someone transferred in.
23:22.53buuaestil: We still haven't killed moro.
23:22.55aestilbuu: ah.
23:22.56KarlThePaganyea... sad that the best threat dump option is gonna be pain suppression
23:22.57NivFreakaestil: shaman? dps warriors?
23:23.00buuAND I CRY.
23:23.03NivFreakret paladins, haha
23:23.14buuNivFreak: DPS warriors have a threat dump
23:23.18aestil<PROTECTED>
23:23.18NivFreakdeath?
23:23.19NivFreak:P
23:23.19buuNivFreak: So do shamans.
23:23.21buuThey call it 'ankhs'
23:23.23NivFreakhaha
23:23.27NivFreaksoul stone ftw
23:23.30buuYeah
23:23.30WobinImproved Death
23:23.33NivFreakthat one also applies to shadow priests ;)
23:23.47buuYou know your class design might have a problem when people deliberately die to ankh =[
23:24.11Wobinwell not really
23:24.11KarlThePaganif you're dps on void reaver... maybe
23:24.17WobinIt's a valid tactic =)
23:24.26NivFreakan expensive tactic
23:24.34NivFreak5G per attempt
23:24.35NivFreakouch
23:24.35Wobindepends on how you die
23:24.47WobinIf you carry some demonic runes or dark runes with you
23:24.49fitz__moar dark runes from Old World plz
23:24.54NivFreakhaha
23:24.55JopsSS a pally and get him to DI instead. Cheaper :>
23:24.59NivFreakI never thought about that
23:25.00buuWobin: Well.
23:25.16fitz__jops, paladins have mana problems?
23:25.20WobinIt's like the warlock improved threat dump =)
23:25.23buuI need to figure a way to life tap faster so I can hellfire myself to death
23:25.25Wobinhellfire to death and soulstone
23:25.25JopsNo? :|
23:25.35buuJops: No..
23:25.44buuWobin: At least we have shatter.
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23:25.50Wobins'true
23:25.50aestilbuu: church needs warlocks
23:26.01buuaestil: I wish I could join the alliance.
23:26.11buuBut then I'd have to raid with gnomes. So there's a downside.
23:26.13fitz__buu, more +damage = faster lifetap
23:26.16aestilbuu:  we key'd 24 people last night
23:26.24aestilbuu: might kill rage tonight.
23:26.26Wobinbuu: Gnomes make the most amusing noises when they die
23:26.43WobinOur raiding group makes it a exercise to kill a gnome on each pull
23:27.38buuaestil: =[ =[ =[
23:27.50buuaestil: I'm so incredibly depressed about wow right now.
23:27.54NivFreakleveling my NE rogue to 42 was enough to turn me off from alliance ;)
23:28.18buuStupid fucking group content.
23:28.35buuWhy most these other people solely exist to hold me back?!
23:28.45Ellipsis^
23:28.59buuEllipsis: Do you have FSW and Spellstrike yet?
23:29.03Ellipsisuh...duh?
23:29.06fitz__I miss the days of MC where you could go w/ 20 people and still clear most of the zone
23:29.06buuOh good.
23:30.05Ellipsisbuu, check out my armory again, I've upgraded a bunch
23:31.06EllipsisI even got the kara neck so aestil hates me
23:33.12buuEllipsis: Yay!
23:33.23buuI too have the kara neck.
23:33.30buuSo we can spread the hate.
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23:33.45buuI still hate other people though.
23:34.39Ellipsisyou don't hate me, do you?
23:34.57buuIt's possible.
23:34.59buuAre you a person?
23:35.08CIA-703alar * r53965 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: . Fixed acedb overflow message. Couldnt commit root dir
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23:35.39Ellipsismaybe
23:35.43Ellipsissome say I'm actually a monkey
23:36.02CIA-703alar * r53966 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.lua: AlarArtRemover BugFix: acedb stack overflow fixed
23:36.07sedai|monkey!
23:36.15NightHawkAtWorkmonkey isn't the term i'd use
23:36.33CIA-703alar * r53967 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation BugFix: acedb stack overflow fixed
23:36.35Ellipsishey now
23:36.36Ellipsisbe nice
23:36.44NightHawkAtWorkI was nice! I didn't finish my thought. :D
23:36.52Ellipsisouch
23:37.24CIA-703alar * r53968 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): AlarBGHelper BugFix: acedb stack overflow fixed
23:37.35Ellipsisso I just tanked a boss in SH from 60% til dead
23:37.47NightHawkAtWorksecond boss?
23:37.47fitz__what class?
23:38.01CIA-703starlon * r53969 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua:
23:38.01CIA-7DebuffAlarm:
23:38.01CIA-7- Minor edits
23:38.01CIA-703alar * r53970 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc): AlarTTFrame BugFix: acedb stack overflow fixed
23:38.16Megalonmonkey? bonobo?
23:38.47Ellipsisthe ogre guy
23:39.02NightHawkAtWorkyeah, he hits like a pansy
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23:39.26NightHawkAtWorkI've healed through warlocks tanking him most of the way
23:39.37Ellipsisthe sad part is I didn't mean to do it
23:39.39fitz__gdi, noone cares that date('!...') is buggy in wow except me :(
23:39.45EllipsisI even soulshattered and lost aggro for about 2 seconds
23:39.51Ellipsisthen my amped cod went off and...well...yeah
23:39.53NightHawkAtWorkEh, its inevitable with that boss, he's got a wonky agro table, and is untauntable
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23:40.50Ellipsisfortunately that break in damage gave the healer time to switch targets
23:40.59Ellipsisso I didn't have any trouble finishing off the fight that way
23:41.17JoshBorkeEllipsis: i always tank the 2nd boss in SH
23:41.43JoshBorkeas a spriest
23:41.54JoshBorkei've never had a run where i didn't have aggro for at least 25%
23:42.11JoshBorkei never kept track of how quickly i got aggro :-D
23:42.14Ellipsisheh
23:42.17NightHawkAtWorkheh, usually when i run it with my friend (pally tank), he just throws on healing gear for the fight and heals when he loses agro.
23:42.50Poul|Raider<PROTECTED>
23:43.27buuHaha, I love that ogre boss.
23:43.43buuEveryone is always like "zomg 2nd boss is the heardest boss in SL!"
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23:44.09NightHawkAtWorkpfft. there's trash harder than him
23:44.44buuYeah
23:44.55JoshBorkeyou mean SH?
23:44.58buuHaha, I ended up two manning most of that first boss once.
23:45.22Diao2nd boss is harder with better gear :(
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23:47.34Arcaiawtt 70 rogue for 70 resto shaman -PTR-
23:48.13Gnarfozbecause account trading is allowed now?
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23:48.19Gnarfozgtfo! :p
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23:55.18buuSo anyway..
23:55.35buuUsing assessment it has a field for "filter tags" and the help says "any legal tag". How do I get a lsit of tags?
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23:58.19BankZDo you guys think its worth while to run "TCP Optimizer" on Vista?
23:58.19Ellipsisbuu, use your psychic powers
23:59.32xerawxi'm only an expert on illegal tags

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