| 00:00.25 | aestil | nevcairiel: you can't? |
| 00:00.26 | Ellipsis | dashkal: why are you talking like it's my choice what gets added to rock or fubar? |
| 00:00.28 | silentium | aestil: I know, but obviously some persons are against such an option, or they wouldnt argue against its usefulness |
| 00:00.31 | aestil | nevcairiel: whats the license on that. |
| 00:00.33 | hyperChipmunk | I lost a lot of faith in ck's stuff when he decided his way was best and that he didn't want any help or feedback--the config window, being a highly exposed interface-oriented component of the framework, best exemplifies the folly of that philosophy |
| 00:00.43 | dashkal | Just suggesting it for feedback |
| 00:01.02 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk, you know perfectly well he welcomes useful feedback |
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| 00:01.06 | aestil | hyperChipmunk: there was plenty of time for feedback to be given. i don't recall alot of people offering any. |
| 00:01.10 | Ellipsis | any issues you have are personal ones |
| 00:01.30 | aestil | almost all issues with ckk are personal ones, and itis pretty fucking old to hear it over and over. |
| 00:01.33 | silentium | Ellipsis: it's not your fault what gets added or not, but you were arguing against the need of such an option for anyone |
| 00:01.38 | hyperChipmunk | he made a whole wikipage saying how it was better off without our help |
| 00:02.02 | aestil | hyperChipmunk: he made a whole wiki page saying he felt it was better to have one person in charge at the end. |
| 00:02.07 | hyperChipmunk | i made suggestions anyway, and got flamed for having "too slow a computer" |
| 00:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | so. change of topic. |
| 00:02.19 | nevcairiel | aestil: they are LGPL, not sure how that is with using the same lib name and releasing something new, but the license is besides the point, we're a community, and community is based on more then one person |
| 00:02.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: i hate responses like that. >< |
| 00:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyway, I picked up Resident evil 4 for the wii today. |
| 00:02.31 | Ellipsis | having a final say in your own work is not the same as refusing help/feedback |
| 00:02.39 | aestil | hyperChipmunk: i subscribe to this view in almost everything, because too many people with 'authority' over an end product can lead to problems. |
| 00:02.46 | NightHawkTheSane | but I'm not really a fan of resident evil, so I have no idea why i bought it. |
| 00:02.52 | hyperChipmunk | so screw it; i just don't use it anymore. The community used to be developer-driven, where if you had an issue you could communicate directly with the author |
| 00:02.54 | Orionshock | hyperChipmunk: what a simplistic way to put it - how bout reading it again and understanding that he's agenst the Design my Committee method of Ace3 that has no REAL DESIGNATED project lead. |
| 00:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | now it's "raise an issue and BE FLAMED by users" |
| 00:03.06 | Tuller | because you can cut people with your knife way faster in that version |
| 00:03.11 | aestil | nevcairiel: there have been plenty of people doing thigns with his work, shadowed comes to mind that through 'community' out of the window. |
| 00:03.36 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, i remember when shadowed did some work |
| 00:03.41 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: when I have an issue with one of ckknight_'s addons, I communicate directly with him - sometimes through jira, other times on IRC - and most of my issues have been fixed or at least planned to be fixed |
| 00:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | and he decided to lock up my game |
| 00:03.47 | Shadowed | Well, given Rock was never really developed based off community. It's rather hard for there to be an idea of community in general |
| 00:03.55 | Ellipsis | so as I said, if you're having trouble, that's a personal thing |
| 00:04.26 | aestil | QQ it wasn't community driven. QQ |
| 00:04.29 | aestil | jesus christ. |
| 00:04.30 | Shadowed | QQ? |
| 00:04.34 | Shadowed | ....? |
| 00:04.36 | aestil | i'm sick of this drivel. |
| 00:04.41 | Shadowed | Uhhh |
| 00:04.45 | aestil | i'm done here today. |
| 00:04.46 | Orionshock | ~qq |
| 00:04.50 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 00:04.52 | aestil | i need to calm down. |
| 00:05.04 | aestil | this whole discussion is irrelevant to me. |
| 00:05.11 | aestil | since i am only an end user. |
| 00:05.21 | Shadowed | I hate to break it to you, but "QQ" isn't the response to use on something when people are saying give feed back. |
| 00:05.22 | Shadowed | Oh well |
| 00:05.39 | ckknight_ | what does "community-driven" even mean? as far as I can tell, it means sacrificing for what someone else believes is right, at least from my experience |
| 00:05.41 | ckknight_ | it's just code |
| 00:05.51 | ckknight_ | it's not some sanctified work |
| 00:06.10 | Tuller | community driven = facebook! |
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| 00:06.23 | ag` | I'll facialbook you |
| 00:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | i just don't like this new barrier I have to go through to talk to you, mostly |
| 00:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: facebook makes my brain die a little inside |
| 00:06.52 | hyperChipmunk | i have to pass through a gauntlet of flames just to raise an issue |
| 00:07.01 | hyperChipmunk | too much effort= |
| 00:07.15 | ckknight_ | Tuller, Web 2.0 ftw, eh? |
| 00:07.32 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: gauntlet of flames = the extreme difficulty of creating a jira ticket? |
| 00:07.45 | xerawx | facebook is the cancer that is killing the intertrons |
| 00:07.46 | ckknight_ | I've been seriously busy with irl stuff recently |
| 00:07.49 | hyperChipmunk | actually, i gave up before we even had jira |
| 00:07.51 | ckknight_ | I'm putting on a party later today |
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| 00:08.06 | silentium | ckknight_: some direct feedback for you then: could you please offer a way to not open the rock config window when empty fubar space is right clicked? maybe limit it to the time while in combat, or only if the rock config button is on the minimap or fubar, so there is still a graphical way to reach it |
| 00:08.09 | ckknight_ | and I'm staffing a Martial Arts festival soon |
| 00:08.12 | Orionshock | ya really IRL > WoW |
| 00:08.18 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: well that's about all that's required to actually bring an issue to ckknight_'s attention, so why don't you give that a try next time |
| 00:08.18 | Orionshock | is that so hard to accept? |
| 00:08.37 | ckknight | Orionshock, irl can be fun at times |
| 00:08.44 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:08.51 | Ellipsis | irl sucks |
| 00:08.51 | Orionshock | yes it can |
| 00:08.56 | Ellipsis | and you suck for loving irl more than us, ckknight |
| 00:08.56 | kenlyric | so, Ellipsis, how goes nano? |
| 00:09.04 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: didn't even bother trying |
| 00:09.13 | kenlyric | eek! |
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| 00:09.15 | Ellipsis | I can't due to other stuff coming up this month :( |
| 00:09.15 | hyperChipmunk | meh, don't care anymore; the old way was my limit of effort |
| 00:09.19 | ckknight | silentium, hrm... a bit complex to add, albeit doable. |
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| 00:10.19 | Orionshock | something tells me that it's allready on jira somewhere.. |
| 00:10.21 | silentium | ckknight: there just was a lively discussion about this topic, that's why I asked ;) |
| 00:10.22 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: you didn't miss much... there's a chat room... it's something like fail. |
| 00:10.28 | kenlyric | "how do I get purple text?!?!?!" |
| 00:10.46 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:10.55 | silentium | 6[purplz] |
| 00:10.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: it can't really be tough to simply completely disable the config on right-clicks on fubar, and add a built-in fubar plugin for launching the config window |
| 00:11.06 | ckknight | also, I've stayed away from IRC because I fucking hate the drama that goes on here |
| 00:11.40 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane, for one, I don't have my computer, it's in the shop, which means that I don't have my dev setup going at all, nor WoW on this machine |
| 00:11.44 | silentium | NightHawkTheSane: funnily there already is a built-in fubar plugin, it's just disabled if one hasnt installed libfubarplugin-3.0 |
| 00:11.45 | ckknight | so yes, complex. |
| 00:11.46 | dashkal | ckknight: What would be the best way to get feedback to you? |
| 00:12.03 | ag` | dashkal, I guess Jira perhaps |
| 00:12.04 | ckknight | jira is the most reliable way |
| 00:12.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, i mean ignoring outside issues. :P |
| 00:12.36 | ckknight | sadly, you can't ignore outside issues, then you become a hermit |
| 00:12.40 | ckknight | I've done it |
| 00:12.45 | ckknight | it's less fun than one would expect |
| 00:12.49 | Ellipsis | liese |
| 00:12.53 | Ellipsis | it's lots of fun |
| 00:12.56 | kenlyric | if I scale the rock config window down, is there an option to fiddle with the font size so it's still readable if tiny? |
| 00:12.58 | dashkal | Where is jira? |
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| 00:13.11 | Ellipsis | jira.wowace.com |
| 00:13.13 | dashkal | danke |
| 00:13.32 | dashkal | immediately bookmarks |
| 00:13.35 | ckknight | kenlyric, not really, but I completely blame Blizz for that :-P |
| 00:13.40 | ckknight | wtb resolution independence |
| 00:13.44 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: if you just want to resize it rather than scale it, you can drag the bottom right corner o.O |
| 00:14.02 | kenlyric | because if I make the window about 1/3 the size and throw it in te upper left window, the functional issue will be gone. |
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| 00:14.10 | Antiarc | ckknight: What's happening with the talent query stuff in Rock, given the changes in 2.3? |
| 00:14.45 | kenlyric | Antiarc: rumor has it will report your gold totals :) |
| 00:14.50 | Antiarc | :O |
| 00:14.56 | ckknight | seeing as the talent query stuff in 2.3 is within a certain range, I might leave it in for the sake of addons such as EnhancedLFG |
| 00:15.01 | ckknight | granted, it might phase out eventually |
| 00:15.06 | kenlyric | bag/bank contents. |
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| 00:15.17 | Antiarc | I'm getting lots of "No player named 'XXX' is currently online" messages from it |
| 00:15.29 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's a bit annoying that it queries offline people too |
| 00:15.38 | Orionshock | oh come on kenlyric big wigs already does that do we really need to add it to rock? |
| 00:16.51 | silentium | bigwigs does that? o_O I've seen such stuff in CTRA and oRA2, but why whoud such a thing be needed for boss warnings? |
| 00:16.53 | ckknight | no, I wouldn't do something as obscene as report inventory or other personal info |
| 00:17.02 | Antiarc | Bigwigs relies on you having a bandage for range checks |
| 00:17.05 | Antiarc | But that's about it |
| 00:17.06 | ckknight | I don't consider talent info personal since it's on Armory and the like |
| 00:17.06 | silentium | s/whoud/would/ |
| 00:17.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.03 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.04 | kenlyric | i suppose superinspect lets you cache inspections after they leave. |
| 00:19.19 | kenlyric | I wonder if anything will do that for builds. |
| 00:19.23 | silentium | hmm... so what if I forget my bandages in the bank as a healer, does bigwigs lose functionality? I guess it could use some of my spells for backup, which would render the bandages part unnecessary (at least for my class) in the first place |
| 00:19.47 | Gagorian | What of your spells would have a suitable range? |
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| 00:20.37 | silentium | no idea, what's the range on bandages? |
| 00:21.17 | Funkeh` | silentium, 15 yards |
| 00:21.22 | Funkeh` | its rarely used |
| 00:21.28 | Funkeh` | for things like gruul range check |
| 00:21.33 | Ellipsis | there aren't really any 15 yard friendly-targeted spells afaik |
| 00:21.33 | Funkeh` | but it checks any bandage |
| 00:21.40 | Funkeh` | so you don't need a certain type |
| 00:22.19 | silentium | hm ok, I dont think I have any friendly spells with only 15 yards range |
| 00:22.45 | silentium | gotta get me a single linen bandage then, just for fun :) |
| 00:22.56 | kenlyric | wait, what are we talking about? |
| 00:22.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont think theres a friendly spell in the game with a 15 yard range |
| 00:23.01 | kenlyric | i missed a jump here. |
| 00:24.25 | silentium | the jump was rock -> talent query -> item query -> bigwigs (kinda long jump here) -> bandages |
| 00:26.01 | kenlyric | I got all that, just not how an item query would break the mod if you were missing the item. |
| 00:26.25 | Antiarc | It can't tell what your range is, relatively speaking |
| 00:26.27 | kenlyric | five days away from the game, guess I'm just getting fuzzy. |
| 00:26.56 | Ellipsis | it can't do range warnings if it can't check your range |
| 00:27.25 | silentium | if you dont have any bandages, bigwigs cant check for 15 yards distance |
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| 00:27.56 | kenlyric | ahh, I didn't know that's how it did it. |
| 00:29.01 | Funkeh` | but like I said, 15 yards isn't used often |
| 00:29.42 | silentium | I just wonder what the fallback behaviour is... does it keep the range check window closed? does it warn that the (guessed) info shown may be off? does it omit warnings? |
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| 00:31.40 | silentium | anyway I'm off, sorry for killing the conversation ;p |
| 00:32.11 | Ellipsis | !c us cenarius freeloader |
| 00:32.14 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Freeloader, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 10805 HP; 10501 Mana; 147 mana regen; 190 spell crit; 145 spell hit; 1011 +spell dmg; 57 frost dmg (1068); 57 shadow dmg (1068); 5.20% dodge; 13 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 334 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yod6p4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37u6xr ][ Updated: Sat Nov 3 16:36:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:33.36 | Nefarion | !c us dath'remar Lachthegreat |
| 00:33.38 | ThraeBot | Nefarion: Lachthegreat, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (43/18/0). 7668 HP; 7438 Mana; 134 mana regen; 43 mp5; 4369 Armour; 665 AP; 120.400 Melee DPS; 6.34% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 169.80 Ranged DPS; 8.34% ranged crit; 22 ranged hit; 19 +spell dmg; 5.87% dodge; 26 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1185 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrlqcz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mvghh ][ Updated: Sat Nov 3 16:37:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:33.45 | Nefarion | worst hunter ever btw |
| 00:33.56 | Nefarion | nifty though, what else can that thing do? |
| 00:34.25 | kenlyric | I bet I'm a worse hunter. |
| 00:34.31 | Nefarion | no he's terrible |
| 00:35.09 | kenlyric | 19 spell damage does make me giggle. |
| 00:35.28 | kenlyric | !c us kargath prettiest |
| 00:35.30 | ThraeBot | kenlyric: Prettiest, Level 70 Blood Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 6466 HP; 5743 Mana; 116 mana regen; 37 mp5; 4409 Armour; 1270 AP; 174.300 Melee DPS; 7.80% melee crit; 57 melee hit; 1219 RAP; 255.70 Ranged DPS; 12.88% ranged crit; 57 ranged hit; 7.83% dodge;[[ TBR: 1250 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yobcj6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jl2o5 ][ Updated: Sat Nov 3 16:39:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:35.32 | Nefarion | shit gear (and i mean true shit; he doesn't know *anything* about hunter stats), worse spec, and he's basically known for being pure horse shit 'round the forums |
| 00:36.17 | Nefarion | 21 agi, +240 ap at 70 |
| 00:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Nefarion: msg ThraeBot !h i believe for a list of its options |
| 00:37.09 | Nefarion | awesome thanks |
| 00:37.24 | kenlyric | oh wow at that spec... |
| 00:37.46 | kenlyric | that's... |
| 00:38.11 | kenlyric | cerebal palsey maybe? |
| 00:38.16 | kenlyric | parkinsons? |
| 00:38.26 | Nefarion | oh damn that things nice. api info and all. ^^ |
| 00:38.34 | kenlyric | I can't think of what would make you randomly click like that. |
| 00:38.41 | Nefarion | nelftard's disease |
| 00:38.57 | Nefarion | yeah apparently he thought the talent pane was wack-a-mole |
| 00:40.13 | Nefarion | it's actually kinda bad though. he's so bad in so many ways that it's actually hard to make fun of him lol |
| 00:40.16 | kenlyric | the veteran's ringmail bracers are my favorite. |
| 00:40.49 | kenlyric | for mend pet, I presume |
| 00:41.02 | Nefarion | i dunno. those +str and +spi gems are pretty wicked lol |
| 00:41.24 | xerawx | ug.. has that retarded trend of huntards rolling on healing gear run its course yet |
| 00:41.25 | Nefarion | nah +heal doesn't affect mend pet anymore (and it was a piss-poor reason to go healing before; only idiots did) |
| 00:41.39 | xerawx | thank fsm |
| 00:42.06 | kenlyric | don't forget |
| 00:42.18 | kenlyric | +str and +spi *white* gems |
| 00:42.33 | Nefarion | moral: don't let your mentally retarded 12 year old swipe your credit card and hit up ebay |
| 00:42.46 | xerawx | there was a huntard in my guild before i took an extended break who used to roll on all healing stuff and got away with it because she was one of those "lol ima cute gurl in wow" girls |
| 00:42.49 | Nefarion | i swear, even for a kid this is bad |
| 00:43.14 | Nefarion | maybe a man in disguise? |
| 00:43.26 | xerawx | no confirmed girl |
| 00:43.35 | xerawx | confirmed cute girl in fact |
| 00:43.43 | Nefarion | pics or it didn't happen |
| 00:43.47 | Nefarion | lol |
| 00:43.50 | Gagorian | you mean angle shots and photoshop effects? |
| 00:43.54 | Gagorian | In reality ugly and fat |
| 00:44.11 | Ellipsis | hay now |
| 00:44.16 | xerawx | not even internet disease cute |
| 00:44.17 | Ellipsis | not all girls on the interwebs are ugleh |
| 00:44.21 | Nefarion | truth is, anyone could hit up a random site, steal a whole shitload of images and claim them their own |
| 00:44.28 | xerawx | not like, hot.. but hot for a girl who plays wow |
| 00:44.33 | Orionshock | xerawx: i'd /gquit if that happened more than 2wice... |
| 00:44.38 | Gagorian | Of course not. |
| 00:44.44 | Nefarion | hey i've seen plenty of *hot* hot girls on wow |
| 00:44.47 | Gagorian | Fat and ugly until prooven otherwise |
| 00:44.49 | xerawx | Orionshock: that's pretty much what i did, though not just for that reason |
| 00:44.49 | Gagorian | ! |
| 00:44.56 | Orionshock | if raid leaders are that stupid then you need to find a new home |
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| 00:45.23 | Nefarion | maybe they thought they could /rape her if they continued |
| 00:45.42 | Orionshock | Nefarion: if raid leaders are that stupid then you need to find a new home |
| 00:45.51 | Nefarion | totally |
| 00:46.30 | Orionshock | unless it was local and confirmed that you could nail it, but even then... that's still BS. |
| 00:46.32 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53821 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/libs/: ClassTimer: Changed externals to beta branch |
| 00:46.33 | xerawx | she was actually dating one of the raid leaders who was friends with the guild master is why it went on basically |
| 00:46.34 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53822 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc layouts/Funk.lua): ag_UnitFrames: add in funk layout, nothing changed yet, just a file copy from abf |
| 00:46.44 | xerawx | and everyone just accepted it for the most part |
| 00:47.00 | xerawx | as long as she didnt roll on something a healer actually needed |
| 00:47.13 | Nefarion | heh i wasn't far off. |
| 00:47.35 | Nefarion | hard to say no to sex, even if your guild suffers lol |
| 00:47.52 | xerawx | but sometimes she would and be all like "oops lol ima gurl i guess my boobs clicked need instead of greed" |
| 00:47.57 | Orionshock | ok take it or shard it then it's .. tolerable to a degree... but BS none the less |
| 00:48.03 | Nefarion | HAHA |
| 00:48.17 | Gagorian | Ellipsis: Well to be clear, I expect males to be that too :D |
| 00:48.24 | Orionshock | xerawx: tell me u ML KZ? |
| 00:48.26 | Gagorian | I'M FROM THE INTERNETS |
| 00:48.57 | Nefarion | which tube is yours? |
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| 00:49.30 | Nefarion | umm, fake???: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12295523@N02/sets/72157602832243420/show/ |
| 00:49.46 | Nefarion | apparently it shows that emerald dream is finished and NPCed |
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| 00:50.05 | Nefarion | those npcs and a lotta that shit wasn't there last i checked |
| 00:50.10 | xerawx | Orionshock: usually yeah, it was kind of a sloppy guild though.. i only ran kara with them a couple times really |
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| 00:50.50 | Orionshock | Nefarion: how does one "check" such things ? w/o getting banned that is? |
| 00:51.02 | Nefarion | don't get caught? |
| 00:51.10 | Nefarion | =P |
| 00:51.14 | Orionshock | Nefarion: how does one "check" such things ? |
| 00:51.26 | Nefarion | justfuckinggoogleit.com |
| 00:51.32 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 00:52.05 | Nefarion | this would be a hard hoax. wouldn't be hard to PS in the npcs using modelviewer but some of this terrain wasn't in it before.. |
| 00:52.25 | Arrowmaster | private server? |
| 00:52.37 | Nefarion | that works |
| 00:52.57 | NightHawkTheSane | probably that |
| 00:53.19 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, i really miss visor in leopard. >< |
| 00:53.50 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53823 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Fixed bug where dropdown menus wouldn't display selected value |
| 00:54.15 | Arrowmaster | although afaik the client doesnt know anything about npc's so all the npc's on private servers are programed from coping the real servers and if you cant get there on live/ptr then it would have to be totally made up on the private server |
| 00:55.09 | Nefarion | yeah looking into it this may be a hoax |
| 00:55.52 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 00:55.58 | Chompers | hasn't the emerald dream been in wow for ages though? |
| 00:55.59 | Arrowmaster | its 100% private server |
| 00:56.06 | Chompers | not in a playable state, but it's there |
| 00:56.11 | Nefarion | yes chomp but never NEARLY this complete |
| 00:56.23 | Chompers | wouldn't take much work to add npcs and trees |
| 00:56.37 | Arrowmaster | and i know theres some private servers with custom models and textures to completely change some zones around |
| 00:56.50 | Nefarion | Arrow, the flying implies gm powers (private server giveaway) but the NPCs imply either a lot of work put into hoaxing something or live servers. |
| 00:57.10 | Nefarion | nonetheless the terrain isn't an easy thing to fake, and it's pretty damn progressed from the last version i saw |
| 00:58.07 | Nefarion | possible that a relatively low level gm did this on live servers, but it's more probably at least a partial hoax |
| 00:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | "I have a dream catcher somewhere, but I haven't taken it out of the box yet." "You do realize that's a metaphor for your life." |
| 00:59.57 | Nefarion | lol |
| 01:00.55 | Nefarion | oh i know how to check |
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| 01:01.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
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| 01:01.33 | Nefarion | mapviewer opens your games mpq files to generate its map data. i know at least the very large mountain wasn't in there before.. |
| 01:02.16 | Arrowmaster | here something from a private server http://stage6.divx.com/user/BaronSoosdon/video/1377518/The-Barrens-Biohazard |
| 01:02.31 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r53824 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - fix bug which would cause large tables to break. (thanks backbone87) |
| 01:03.08 | Nefarion | how easy is it for them to detect connections to priv servers? |
| 01:03.34 | Arrowmaster | for blizz to detect? |
| 01:03.36 | Nefarion | yes |
| 01:03.58 | Arrowmaster | dont think they can since you change the config files to point to a different auth/login server |
| 01:04.18 | Nefarion | well i know they have their Warden program.. |
| 01:04.23 | Nefarion | i'd imagine they check that |
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| 01:11.25 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: i guess the raptors got the shaft in that transformation... |
| 01:14.10 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53826 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Ace3 branch - Update color when option is changed |
| 01:18.57 | Nefarion | i just found a warr that makes lach look good |
| 01:19.28 | Nefarion | he's only 46 but hasn't even discovered what talents are yet, and is crying on the forums |
| 01:19.35 | Nefarion | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eredar&n=Lysander |
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| 01:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, when did item tooltips in the armory get a source/boss/drop rate listing? |
| 01:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | thats neat |
| 01:22.49 | Nefarion | been like that for a bit now |
| 01:23.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i don't go to the armory all that often |
| 01:23.27 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53827 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: koKR update |
| 01:23.38 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53828 10KeepItCool/ (KeepItCool.toc fubar.lua): |
| 01:23.38 | CIA-7 | KeepItCool: |
| 01:23.38 | CIA-7 | -- Should now save minimap position |
| 01:26.33 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53829 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/ (healthbar/healthbar.lua powerbar/powerbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: error fix |
| 01:26.50 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53830 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/powerbar/powerbar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: l2p |
| 01:29.17 | kenlyric | had them since the upgrade which showed relative upgrades for items. |
| 01:30.13 | kenlyric | Nefarion: that's the most amazing thing i've ever seen. |
| 01:30.28 | Nefarion | what is now? |
| 01:32.56 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53831 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua locales/ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: add some localization |
| 01:33.10 | kenlyric | i'd need to see his forum complaints for the perfection. |
| 01:33.56 | Nefarion | basically a slightly drawn out: "plz make deathcoil kill instantly so i dont have to wait 5 seconds to die from dots anyway" |
| 01:34.04 | Nefarion | pure idiocy obviously |
| 01:35.15 | kenlyric | does that mean he's ignore the flashing talents icon for 36 levels, or did he open them up and just not do anything? |
| 01:35.33 | kenlyric | there's so much to find out. |
| 01:35.38 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-187-250.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 01:35.41 | Arrowmaster | flashing talents icon? |
| 01:36.04 | Nefarion | yeah the worst i've seen is a level ~35 nelf huntard that never talented. this is amazing tho. |
| 01:36.06 | kenlyric | when you get your first talent, the icon appears and the border of it flashes |
| 01:36.21 | kenlyric | i guess it probably goes away when you log off. |
| 01:36.22 | Nefarion | yeah, the blorder flashes every level up for a couple secs |
| 01:36.33 | *** join/#wowace zi (n=root@c-71-207-223-143.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 01:36.34 | Nefarion | like 10 sec if not clicked earlier |
| 01:36.45 | Arrowmaster | oh i dont have that bar displayed on any character |
| 01:36.49 | Nefarion | who here has played on a private server? |
| 01:36.51 | NightHawkTheSane | course, it only does that if you have that shown, but if you're smart enough to figure out how to hide that part of your UI, you're too dumb to forget your talents |
| 01:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | er, too smart. >< |
| 01:37.02 | Nefarion | yeah me neither. blizz's default shit is damned ugly. |
| 01:37.31 | kenlyric | Nefarion: I did for like a day or two.Like bowling with the bumpers on. |
| 01:37.43 | Nefarion | how long ago? |
| 01:37.50 | kenlyric | few months. |
| 01:38.04 | Nefarion | did you need to reinstall the game under a new directory? |
| 01:38.21 | kenlyric | I just copied the folder |
| 01:38.49 | Nefarion | ah i read that it can't be patched to 1.9 or newer |
| 01:39.13 | kenlyric | the server I was on was 2.1.3 already, which was the live patch. |
| 01:39.34 | Orionshock | r |
| 01:39.59 | kenlyric | i've heard it's not safe though, that warden calls home and says you're using a private server. |
| 01:40.26 | kenlyric | though, don't know exactly how it would know that. |
| 01:40.44 | Nefarion | it sends data back nearly constantly |
| 01:41.08 | kenlyric | yeah, but what data that connects to my account? |
| 01:41.38 | Nefarion | ip address? |
| 01:42.08 | kenlyric | it's workable but not very accurate. |
| 01:42.21 | kenlyric | not that blizzard wouldn't do it. |
| 01:42.31 | Nefarion | hence the lack of people ever mentioning getting banned for it |
| 01:42.35 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: eh, to a certain degree, it'd be accurate |
| 01:42.41 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: not really |
| 01:42.49 | Nefarion | i know dozens of people that have used and made priv servers and never gotten banned |
| 01:42.50 | NightHawkTheSane | if an account only ever logs on from a certain ip, you can pretty much link that account to that ip |
| 01:42.54 | kenlyric | my roommate has the same IP I do, and he's a wow player too. |
| 01:43.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "to a certain degree" |
| 01:43.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it certainly wouldn't be an absolute gauge, but in some cases, it would be good enough |
| 01:43.54 | kenlyric | i know that happens to gliders. |
| 01:44.11 | kenlyric | one account on that ip gets banned and they all do.; |
| 01:46.56 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit, i got teriyaki sauce on my shirt. >< |
| 01:47.04 | kenlyric | banned |
| 01:48.06 | kenlyric | private server is on the list of ways to break your wow addiction. A week or so and you'll be bored out of your mind. |
| 01:48.56 | Nefarion | i'm already bored out of my mind |
| 01:49.08 | Nefarion | haven't been on the game in 3 weeks now |
| 01:49.37 | kenlyric | all the bosses become tank/spank fights :) |
| 01:49.46 | xerawx | i only tried private servers after i'd quit for a while |
| 01:49.49 | kenlyric | casters suck ass. |
| 01:49.57 | xerawx | and they actually just made me want to play on blizz realms again |
| 01:50.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I logon to wow and get bored after 5 dailies, most nights. >.> |
| 01:50.11 | kenlyric | and yeah, it makes you appreciate the work blizzard does :) |
| 01:50.19 | xerawx | but i'm more into pvp and it's practically noexistant on private realms |
| 01:50.33 | xerawx | and horribly imbalanced even by wow standards when it does happen |
| 01:50.35 | kenlyric | it's all dueling. |
| 01:51.44 | xerawx | there was a realm that was just constant AV |
| 01:51.52 | xerawx | it was really buggy though, not sure if it still exists |
| 01:53.02 | Nefarion | meh, i'm not even gonna bother |
| 01:53.08 | Nefarion | i'm off for now anyways. |
| 01:53.40 | Wobin | I dunno why you'd even bother with private servers |
| 01:53.46 | kenlyric | i'm on exile from wow until 2.3 comes out. |
| 01:53.53 | Wobin | although, you're right, they'd best be described as like the nicotiene patch =P |
| 01:53.58 | kenlyric | Wobin: zomg, free epix! |
| 01:54.05 | Wobin | It gives you something of a free rush |
| 01:54.09 | Wobin | but not as good as the real thing =P |
| 01:54.11 | kenlyric | it's like winning without work. |
| 01:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, they undermined weir's authority fairly often in sg:a, now that i think about it |
| 01:54.24 | kenlyric | see above re: bumpers in bowling lanes |
| 01:54.31 | xerawx | kenlyric: you know you can play on PTR still? |
| 01:54.48 | kenlyric | xerawx: i know, but on this laptop. |
| 01:54.48 | xerawx | i'm playing on the ptr right now even though i unsubbed like 6 months ago |
| 01:54.50 | Wobin | kenlyric: I've been a creator on a MUD. Once you have the power to create everything.... you tend to stick to the weird and whacky instead of the epix |
| 01:55.02 | kenlyric | I let my account expire for nanowrimo anyway, so I'm busy. |
| 01:55.15 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: you doing nanowrimo? |
| 01:55.15 | kenlyric | but PTR is exactly like private server witout the easysauce. |
| 01:55.28 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, about 7500 now, a day or so ahead. |
| 01:55.29 | xerawx | not really.. PTR is nowhere near as buggy |
| 01:55.34 | xerawx | and the BGs actually work |
| 01:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: awesome. good luck. :) |
| 01:55.46 | xerawx | and there's actually.. other people who speak english |
| 01:55.51 | Wobin | kenlyric: woo, good luck on that =) |
| 01:56.05 | kenlyric | xerawx: it's good if you like pvp and don't really need the honor :) |
| 01:56.44 | xerawx | yeah i'm really just trying to figure out how i want to spec my priest when i go back to live in 2.3 |
| 01:57.02 | kenlyric | discipline of course. because it's going to be awesome in 3.0. |
| 01:57.05 | kenlyric | eyonix said so! |
| 01:57.11 | xerawx | lol |
| 01:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | eyonix says a lot of things. |
| 01:57.16 | NightHawkTheSane | most of them dumb. |
| 01:57.34 | kenlyric | didn't eyonix give us the "fear won't be a major mechanic in TBC"? |
| 01:57.46 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:58.00 | kenlyric | it's not major! it's only on a few bosses! |
| 01:58.59 | kenlyric | I think he also told us we would love our 41 point holy talent.... |
| 01:59.01 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53832 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: more localization |
| 01:59.46 | xerawx | i think he's just really sarcastic |
| 02:00.07 | xerawx | or dumb.. or both. |
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| 02:00.52 | Wobin | we have a well |
| 02:00.55 | Wobin | bleh |
| 02:00.59 | Wobin | well I like CoH |
| 02:01.25 | Wobin | It has pretty shiny effects |
| 02:01.34 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53833 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:01.34 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 02:01.34 | CIA-7 | - Consumable.Cooldown.Potion & .Stone each with .Health .Mana & .Rejuvenation |
| 02:01.35 | Killmore2 | CoH kick ass for hyjal/BT |
| 02:02.19 | xerawx | it's not bad for raiding its just not a good 41pt talent |
| 02:02.36 | kenlyric | I like our 41 point oly talent. |
| 02:02.44 | kenlyric | I liked our 31 point holy talent. |
| 02:02.54 | kenlyric | I just like our 21 point disc talent more. |
| 02:03.00 | Killmore2 | lightwell ? |
| 02:03.04 | Killmore2 | it suck bad |
| 02:03.06 | xerawx | lawlwell |
| 02:03.07 | Wobin | lolwell? |
| 02:03.19 | Ellipsis | why do I fail at getting out of lurker's spout :( |
| 02:03.25 | Wobin | I've maybe used lolwell over all my characters -once- successfully |
| 02:03.28 | kenlyric | lightwell is quite friendly in 5 mans |
| 02:03.34 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, you have a pulse? |
| 02:03.42 | Wobin | even then I don't know if it was the lolwell effect or just the priest healing anyway |
| 02:03.46 | xerawx | it has its uses too, like most holy spells its just really situational |
| 02:03.54 | Ellipsis | Gngsk, re-read :P |
| 02:04.09 | kenlyric | i had lightwell at 70 before karazhan, found it useful in lots of instances. |
| 02:04.15 | kenlyric | especially the Inciter |
| 02:04.22 | kenlyric | he'd drop it at the *perfect* time |
| 02:04.41 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. gyoza |
| 02:05.03 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:05.04 | Wobin | fewd |
| 02:05.10 | Wobin | I might go for some brunch |
| 02:05.25 | NightHawkTheSane | you crazy crazy aussies |
| 02:05.42 | Wobin | It's Sunday afternoon |
| 02:05.42 | NightHawkTheSane | with your "brunch" at "7 pm" |
| 02:05.44 | Wobin | (1am) |
| 02:05.46 | Wobin | er pm |
| 02:05.57 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, 1 pm is -way- past brunch time. |
| 02:06.02 | Wobin | and there are any number of good cafes out there |
| 02:06.04 | NightHawkTheSane | your crazy, even for an aussie! |
| 02:06.04 | Wobin | Bah |
| 02:06.09 | kenlyric | brunch requires AM |
| 02:06.13 | Wobin | I can eat breakfast -any- time of the day! |
| 02:06.18 | Wobin | I woke up an hour ago |
| 02:06.20 | kenlyric | that's breakfast then. |
| 02:06.33 | Wobin | well it's brunch, cause after breakfast, I'm not going to eat lunch |
| 02:06.44 | xerawx | if it's PM it becomes drunch |
| 02:06.53 | Wobin | Nah, cause I'm still going to eat dinner |
| 02:07.03 | kenlyric | brunch requires a slice of cantaloupe. |
| 02:07.04 | Wobin | Maybe brafternoontea |
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| 02:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | "Well, then I'd be the man, and who would I have to rage against?" |
| 02:07.21 | Guillotine | Any of the authors/maintainers of Skinner here? |
| 02:07.56 | kenlyric | I used to rock and roll all night and party every day. then it was every other day. Now I'm lucky if I get funky once a week. |
| 02:08.32 | Guillotine | anybody know who IS considered an author of Skinner besides Jncl? |
| 02:08.38 | Funkeh` | >< |
| 02:08.47 | Guillotine | it was posted on Curse, but I kind of doubt whoever posted it had permission |
| 02:09.27 | kenlyric | It's not quite breakfast, it's not quite lunch, but it comes with a slice of cantaloupe at the end. You don't get completely what you would at breakfast, but you get a good meal. |
| 02:09.32 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53834 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): !AlarLib Support for floating cast button added |
| 02:10.25 | NightHawkTheSane | "Look, as much as I hate to say it.. Zelenka's not infallible." |
| 02:10.33 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53835 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.toc: AlarArtRemover Toc standardization |
| 02:11.03 | nevcairiel | i think only jncl is maintaining skinner |
| 02:11.27 | xerawx | any guesses when 2.3 will go live? |
| 02:11.39 | NightHawkTheSane | 2-3 weeks |
| 02:11.39 | nevcairiel | guesses? 3 weeks |
| 02:12.06 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53836 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation New: aspect and track reminder, chat closer for combat |
| 02:12.25 | Ellipsis | ping Antiarc |
| 02:13.25 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53837 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.toc: AlarAutomation Version bump |
| 02:13.32 | Poof | grr |
| 02:13.45 | Poof | I hate this... One of my addons keeps causing my WoW to freeze up for a few seconds =/ |
| 02:13.52 | Poof | Wish there was a debug method =/ |
| 02:14.09 | kenlyric | i'm hoping it comes out at about 45000 words. |
| 02:15.53 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:18.21 | Ellipsis | Poof: you could likely debug that by turning on CPU profiling |
| 02:18.32 | Poof | How do I do that? >.> |
| 02:19.24 | Ellipsis | you'll need an addon like fubar_performancefu or fubar_usage |
| 02:24.22 | Poof | holy crap |
| 02:24.29 | Poof | AtlasLoot takes 81-64%!? |
| 02:26.35 | Orionshock | now this is funny as hell |
| 02:26.40 | Poof | ? |
| 02:26.53 | Orionshock | so we're 4 maning ony |
| 02:26.59 | Poof | Fun. =p |
| 02:27.07 | Orionshock | ... go in and she LoS bugs to us, but dosn't evade |
| 02:27.09 | Orionshock | ... |
| 02:27.24 | _rane | what's up with skillet's shopping list? |
| 02:27.27 | _rane | how do you use it? |
| 02:27.46 | Orionshock | she's acting as if the engine is trying to resolve a LoS / Melee bug but it's not rendering properly |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53838 10AlarBGHelper/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-7 | AlarBGHelper |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-7 | deleted AlarABHelper.xml |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-7 | deleted AlarAVHelper.xml |
| 02:28.46 | CIA-7 | modified AlarBGHelper.lua |
| 02:28.47 | CIA-7 | modified AlarBGHelper.toc |
| 02:28.49 | CIA-7 | modified AlarBGHelperFubar.lua |
| 02:32.01 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53839 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.toc AlarBGHelperFubarOld.lua): |
| 02:32.01 | CIA-7 | AlarBGHelper |
| 02:32.01 | CIA-7 | Fixed: Fubar and Titan support |
| 02:32.01 | CIA-7 | Fixed: Right click on Carrier Button works |
| 02:32.01 | CIA-7 | New: Eos winner prediction |
| 02:32.02 | CIA-7 | New: Health information on flag carrier in warsomng gulch (if available) |
| 02:32.04 | CIA-7 | New: Auto spam for help when hit. Only ONE message for fight, need to be reenabled after every death |
| 02:32.22 | Stanzilla | does he know that his addons are crap? |
| 02:33.13 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53840 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc AlarTTFrame.xml): |
| 02:33.13 | CIA-7 | AlarTTFrame |
| 02:33.13 | CIA-7 | New: PetTarget unit available for Hunters and Warlocks |
| 02:35.17 | Orionshock | who? alar? |
| 02:35.57 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53841 10Skillet/UI/ShoppingList.lua: |
| 02:35.57 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 02:35.57 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.57 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.17 | Stanzilla | Orionshock: yup |
| 02:39.20 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53842 10KeyProfiler/ (. KeyProfiler.toc core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 02:39.20 | CIA-7 | KeyProfiler: inital commit |
| 02:39.20 | CIA-7 | -- Saves and loads keybindings |
| 02:39.45 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53843 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: error fix |
| 02:42.11 | Wobin | His 'libraries' cause me physical pain to read |
| 02:42.24 | Wobin | He hasn't quite grasped the whole concept of them |
| 02:42.27 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 02:42.46 | Wobin | (in that "hasn't grasped" == "completely missed the point") |
| 02:43.17 | Wobin | You'd think, for a giant bird of flame, he might be a better coder |
| 02:43.26 | Wobin | But then again, maybe it's hard to type with flaming talons |
| 02:43.33 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53844 10KeyProfiler/: |
| 02:43.33 | CIA-7 | KeyProfiler: |
| 02:43.33 | CIA-7 | -- Added externals |
| 02:43.44 | Stanzilla | lol^^ |
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| 02:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: well, I say, set yourself on fire, and then go write an addon. I think, given that, he's probably not doing so bad. |
| 03:02.07 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53845 10AutoBar/ (13 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 03:02.07 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 03:02.07 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.21 beta (53633) |
| 03:02.07 | CIA-7 | -- AutoBarButtonBuffWeapon2: Offhand buff weapon button for Hunters as well. |
| 03:02.08 | CIA-7 | -- Fix tooltip setting to work outside Move Buttons mode which auto enables it. |
| 03:02.08 | CIA-7 | -- Arrange on use default true for Hunter / Paladin Aura button. |
| 03:02.10 | CIA-7 | -- Button highlighting in move mode: green active, blue empty, red otherwise. |
| 03:02.22 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSane: have you ever *tried* that? maybe it's not as bad as you think |
| 03:02.35 | Ellipsis | I mean, you must kinda get used to it at some point |
| 03:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine you do, shortly after all your nerves have burnt to a crisp |
| 03:03.59 | Stanzilla | mm crispy nerves |
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| 03:05.35 | Poof | hmm |
| 03:05.41 | Poof | Why was AutoBar moved to Google code? =/ |
| 03:05.41 | xerawx | i bet you go into some kind of shock pretty fast |
| 03:05.52 | xerawx | though i'm not willing to test that theory |
| 03:06.09 | Ellipsis | I say we test it out on Stanzilla |
| 03:06.18 | Stanzilla | oh noes :( |
| 03:06.21 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 03:06.40 | xerawx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.15 | Stanzilla | okay I think I'm going to bed now *whistle* |
| 03:07.19 | Stanzilla | cya all later |
| 03:09.45 | Toadkiller | AutoBar was moved to Google code a long time ago so that there would be a place for stable releases as opposed to the SVN on wowace |
| 03:10.55 | Toadkiller | Also at the time patch day was a nightmare of completely unresponsive servers. Google code has no such issues. |
| 03:13.23 | Neebler | hah oh wow. Never give leadership of your arena team over to some random person you met through tade, because you want to hop teams and no one is online currently to give leader to. They'll end up blackmailing you and demanding gold to get leader back |
| 03:13.28 | Toadkiller | Poof: Also a lot of the AutoBar wiki got destroyed here a few months ago. Now there is no such risk, although only I can edit it so the wishlist remains here. |
| 03:13.31 | Neebler | tade/trade |
| 03:13.51 | dreamss | nebler awesome |
| 03:15.53 | Toadkiller | Poof: Finally, I like their issue handling a lot. Not quite as nice as the WoWInterface ones where you can have a back & forth about an issue, but then it does not take 5 hours to painfully slowly mark an issue as fixed either. |
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| 03:20.53 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 03:21.01 | Ellipsis | I'm now an actual member of my guild |
| 03:21.56 | Paradox | is it like... a known thing that a lot of addons seem to have broken in the past 6 hours? |
| 03:22.26 | Tuller | welcome to alpha land? :P |
| 03:22.54 | Paradox | so it is a known thing? |
| 03:23.09 | Paradox | im just asking to make sure its not just me and I sit around hoping for them to be fixed |
| 03:23.13 | Tuller | I have no idea |
| 03:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I havn't had any addon issues today |
| 03:24.25 | Paradox | simple minimap, quartz, and fubar_bagfu on first glance seem to be broken completely |
| 03:24.44 | Ellipsis | getting any errors? |
| 03:25.28 | NightHawkTheSane | couldn't say about bag_fu, but I just updated.. maybe 30-40 minutes ago, and smm and quartz are all working perfectly for me |
| 03:25.48 | Paradox | well |
| 03:25.57 | Paradox | I just logged out and back in again to check the errors I was getting |
| 03:26.03 | Paradox | and it all seems to have fixed itself.. |
| 03:26.05 | Paradox | o_o |
| 03:26.14 | NightHawkTheSane | did you try to update without exiting the game? |
| 03:26.19 | Paradox | nope |
| 03:26.55 | Paradox | well that was weird |
| 03:27.05 | Paradox | just reloaded the game to double check, seems all fine now.. |
| 03:27.38 | NightHawkTheSane | there's probably a good reason those errors were thrown, but if it's all working now, i say don't look too closely. :P |
| 03:27.51 | Ellipsis | probably a one-time glitch, maybe you loaded the game before your updater was done or something |
| 03:28.43 | Paradox | I never update with the game loaded, and the errors started appearing right after I updated and went ingame |
| 03:28.56 | Paradox | but it appears logging out and back in again has fixed it somehow |
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| 03:30.25 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r53846 10Cryolysis/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:30.25 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis: |
| 03:30.25 | CIA-7 | -del expletory local files. |
| 03:30.25 | CIA-7 | update speech zhCN Locale |
| 03:30.25 | CIA-7 | add embeds.xml |
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| 03:33.17 | Fin | http://b3ta.com/links/Possibly_the_best_halloween_costume_on_the_planet |
| 03:34.03 | NightHawkTheSane | dear god that's awesome. |
| 03:34.43 | Ellipsis | whoa wtf x.x |
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| 04:01.12 | Paradox | that's from some film.. |
| 04:01.17 | Paradox | can't remember which right now |
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| 04:07.53 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis: |
| 04:07.53 | CIA-7 | -del expletory local files. |
| 04:07.53 | CIA-7 | update functions zhCN local |
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| 04:10.08 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r53849 10Cryolysis/Locales/Localization-functions-zhCN.lua: |
| 04:10.08 | CIA-7 | Cryolysis: |
| 04:10.08 | CIA-7 | -update zhcn local for functions |
| 04:10.39 | Ellipsis | rofl, not something you see every day |
| 04:10.45 | Ellipsis | my UA got dispelled |
| 04:10.48 | Ellipsis | by a mob |
| 04:12.00 | NightHawkTheSane | there's some mobs that routinely cleanse. |
| 04:12.38 | musxehc | the gnomes in steamvault tdo it |
| 04:18.11 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53850 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:18.11 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 04:18.11 | CIA-7 | - 34440 Mad Alchemist's Potion |
| 04:18.39 | Ellipsis | ...you UA the gnomes in SV? |
| 04:21.17 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53851 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:21.17 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 04:21.18 | CIA-7 | - 34440:2200 to cooldown set |
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| 04:34.40 | Orionshock | anyone remember off hand how to puke an item link into the chat window |
| 04:34.55 | Kerafyrm | puke an item link? |
| 04:35.48 | Orionshock | ya... |
| 04:36.49 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.51 | Orionshock | there it is |
| 04:36.58 | Arcaia | can anyone upload a few ptr patches for me? |
| 04:37.06 | Kerafyrm | which ones, Arcaia? |
| 04:37.13 | Gngsk | Orionshock, you mean an itemString from an itemLink? |
| 04:37.25 | Arcaia | 0.3.0.7382-to-0.3.0.7441-enUS |
| 04:37.36 | Arcaia | and any after that if there are any after that ;P |
| 04:38.04 | Kerafyrm | 42.7M more after that.. ;) |
| 04:38.18 | Kerafyrm | we're up to 7501 or something( i think higher actually.. ) |
| 04:38.26 | Kerafyrm | lemme start the upload to my ded |
| 04:38.32 | Arcaia | not that bad, my campus inet wont let me download ptr patches ;P |
| 04:38.36 | Arcaia | regular wow patches are fine |
| 04:39.54 | Arcaia | thanks also =) |
| 04:40.21 | Kerafyrm | np.. its uploadin.. about 20 min or so |
| 04:41.38 | Arcaia | sweet, afk a min. |
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| 04:43.37 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 04:44.11 | futurekill | Kemayo: hey, I just updated my updater, I'll let you know if the problem I was having still persists |
| 04:46.38 | Gngsk | nymbia, ping |
| 04:50.29 | Kerafyrm | forgot to turn off slingplayer.. lol |
| 04:50.42 | Kerafyrm | now its uploading a little faster |
| 04:50.50 | Arcaia | =D |
| 04:52.04 | Kerafyrm | was watching beerfest.. lol |
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| 05:01.22 | Kerafyrm | Arcaia: PM |
| 05:06.08 | CIA-7 | 03bam * r53852 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 05:06.08 | CIA-7 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 05:06.08 | CIA-7 | - Price updates. |
| 05:10.04 | Arcaia | Kerafyrm: pm ;P |
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| 05:26.16 | Lukian | .. |
| 05:26.20 | Lukian | Recount is using 70Mb |
| 05:27.59 | Lukian | ouch that data storage is nasty |
| 05:28.06 | Lukian | down to 3MB now |
| 05:28.09 | Sparhawke | thats what recount does |
| 05:28.26 | Lukian | but.. SWStats does too |
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| 05:28.38 | Lukian | and I've never seen it use more than 8MB |
| 05:28.41 | Sparhawke | recount has more data |
| 05:28.47 | Sparhawke | graphs and stuff |
| 05:29.05 | Lukian | yeah so, recalc them |
| 05:29.08 | Lukian | from the data |
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| 05:31.35 | snurre | lawl, that was like the best cab ride ive had home from the pub ever... the driver made me puff two spliffs before we got home :D |
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| 05:47.04 | Fin | crontab -l |
| 05:47.10 | Fin | -crontab -l |
| 05:47.13 | Fin | </wrong window> |
| 05:47.41 | Fin | arse |
| 05:49.24 | Krittick | I'm looking for an addon that announces in party chat when someone completes a quest objective, I can't remember the name of it |
| 05:49.55 | Fin | QuestFu does that |
| 05:50.03 | Fin | also nQuestLog I think |
| 05:50.04 | Fin | maybe |
| 05:50.23 | Fin | I bet you anything there's an addon called QuestAnnounce |
| 05:50.35 | Fin | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3447 |
| 05:53.21 | Lukian | I prefer partytogo |
| 05:53.27 | Lukian | it doesn't spam up the party channel |
| 05:57.13 | Keias | !ap 1836 |
| 05:57.14 | ThraeBot | Keias: Arena points from a rating of 1836 is, 2v2: 620, 3v3: 718, 5v5: 816 |
| 06:04.25 | ckknight | well, my party went well |
| 06:04.41 | ckknight | had a 75-person turnout |
| 06:04.50 | Orionshock | nice |
| 06:05.09 | ckknight | we had a cooked pig in the middle |
| 06:05.21 | ckknight | was originally 200 lb, was 80 lb after being deboned and cooked |
| 06:05.25 | ckknight | it was gone by the end |
| 06:05.28 | Orionshock | very ... native of u to have .... |
| 06:05.41 | ckknight | it's actually a Filipino dish |
| 06:05.58 | Fin | what was the party in honour of? anything special? |
| 06:06.44 | ckknight | my mom won a pig. |
| 06:06.50 | ckknight | thus, a pig party was had. |
| 06:06.56 | Fin | congratulations! |
| 06:06.57 | Kerafyrm | thats awesome |
| 06:07.09 | ckknight | she runs an Adult Residential Care Home |
| 06:07.22 | ckknight | and most of the owners are Filipino, like 90% are |
| 06:07.25 | aestil | ckknight: whats with this wierd stretch icon thing i'm getting over ToT and ToToT frames? |
| 06:07.29 | ckknight | so at the annual conference, they gave away a pig |
| 06:07.32 | Fin | I wish I'd won a pig, you swine |
| 06:07.35 | ckknight | my mom was the only white woman there |
| 06:07.43 | ckknight | and my mom's best friend was the only black woman there |
| 06:07.48 | ckknight | everyone else was Filipino :-P |
| 06:07.56 | ckknight | and she won a Filipino-style pig |
| 06:07.59 | ckknight | hilarious |
| 06:08.12 | ckknight | aestil, it's a bug, don't know the cause |
| 06:08.26 | aestil | its a new bug. i've never seen it before this week. |
| 06:08.37 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.48 | ckknight | it's not a new bug |
| 06:08.56 | aestil | ckknight: its new to me. |
| 06:09.17 | ckknight | much like a dingy rat-infested apartment is new to the people who just bought it, eh? |
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| 06:10.42 | aestil | GPU 215 F |
| 06:10.47 | aestil | thats prolly too hot, right? |
| 06:10.55 | Kerafyrm | prolly |
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| 06:16.13 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r53853 10BigWigs/ (9 files in 6 dirs): |
| 06:16.13 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 06:16.13 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
| 06:22.03 | Fin | ckknight: dunno if you saw this bug I submitted about not being able to save the Look 'n' Feel option "close with escape"? I was wondering - any chance it's something to do with the apostrophes? this is like, a guess, without looking at any code - I'm testing my debuggery-by-telepathical-connections-to-code |
| 06:22.20 | ckknight | very much doubt it |
| 06:22.57 | Fin | I shall ask for a refund of my telepathical debuggery home instruction video |
| 06:23.40 | Ellipsis | Fin, I can give you lessons |
| 06:23.49 | Ellipsis | I'm pretty good at telepathic debugging, srsly |
| 06:23.56 | Fin | awesome! |
| 06:24.02 | Fin | where do I start? |
| 06:24.08 | Ellipsis | it's taken years of practice, which fortunately I've had plenty of, since code seems to stop working as soon as it sees me |
| 06:25.11 | Fin | will I have to tend to your ancient oriental garden? |
| 06:25.42 | Fin | perhaps located in Detroit? |
| 06:25.44 | Ellipsis | possibly |
| 06:26.00 | Ellipsis | I don't like Detroit. you'll have to come here instead :P |
| 06:26.17 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 06:26.25 | aestil | ckknight: can i request an option in fubar to not open rock config druing combat? |
| 06:26.28 | Fin | I shall without further delay! |
| 06:26.55 | ckknight | aestil, I thought you already did |
| 06:26.56 | durcyn | oh, go forthwith yourself. |
| 06:26.57 | Fin | juuust going to log onto WoW quickly... be right with you |
| 06:27.12 | aestil | hmm. i don't think i did. |
| 06:27.17 | Ellipsis | someone did |
| 06:27.34 | Ellipsis | aestil: I totally just went to my guild's first SSC |
| 06:28.26 | aestil | there was a shitstorm of QQ in this channel today, and i thought i'd just pass along the request |
| 06:28.37 | aestil | Ellipsis: win. leo drop your sword? |
| 06:28.57 | Ellipsis | lol, drop? |
| 06:29.06 | Ellipsis | you assume we *killed* something |
| 06:29.32 | Ellipsis | we just ran in and bashed our heads against lurker for a while until his trash respawned and everyone gave up |
| 06:29.51 | aestil | lurker? |
| 06:29.52 | Ellipsis | however, I was promoted to member afterwards :) |
| 06:30.03 | aestil | lurker is like... kill 3rd time you try him |
| 06:30.11 | Ellipsis | not for us! |
| 06:30.16 | Ellipsis | WATS SPOUT?? |
| 06:30.17 | aestil | and besides don't take cheap way out and kill lurker before you kill hydross |
| 06:30.24 | aestil | its the pussy way to do it. |
| 06:30.28 | aestil | l2play, then collect loot. |
| 06:30.40 | Ellipsis | aestil, my guild hasn't killed anything new in forever |
| 06:30.48 | Ellipsis | other than that kazzak kill, but that doesn't count |
| 06:30.49 | aestil | after you can kill hydross, you know that you can kill other things. |
| 06:30.58 | Ellipsis | we need all the ezmode we can get |
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| 06:35.00 | Ellipsis | btw aestil: I has 25 badges and the offhand makes me WTB :( |
| 06:35.02 | aestil | we attempted, and killed doomwalker on our first attempt last week. |
| 06:35.27 | Ellipsis | of course, never mind that that I'm using a staff right now |
| 06:35.53 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 06:35.57 | Ellipsis | I'm not sure my bf would approve |
| 06:36.00 | aestil | i'll be buying the OH tommorow. |
| 06:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | he doesn't approve of me employing workers for you? |
| 06:37.11 | Ellipsis | probably not |
| 06:37.22 | Ellipsis | since he knows I'd just... *ahem* nevermind |
| 06:37.33 | aestil | Ellipsis: l2not have a shit guild. |
| 06:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | since he knows you'd employ them will, with excellent benefits and dental? |
| 06:37.53 | NightHawkTheSane | s/will/well/ |
| 06:38.05 | Fin | it's all about the 401(k) |
| 06:38.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: I bet Ellipsis would totally do full matching of employee contributions, too., |
| 06:40.56 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r53854 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/zhCN.lua Necronomicon2.toc): |
| 06:40.56 | CIA-7 | Necronomicon2: |
| 06:40.56 | CIA-7 | -add zhCN local |
| 06:43.02 | NightHawkTheSane | !c is Laughing Skull vodkadin |
| 06:43.21 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull vodkadin |
| 06:43.25 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Vodkadin, Level 19 Blood Elf Paladin (0/10/0). 647 HP; 680 Mana; 40 mana regen; 1549 Armour; 25.300 Melee DPS; 3.66% melee crit; 5.38% dodge; 4.72% block;[[ TBR: 193 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zprt4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3e2zy3 ][ Updated: Sat Nov 3 22:47:46 2007 EST ]] |
| 06:44.28 | aestil | !vs uldum rutrow us laughing skull vodkain |
| 06:44.51 | aestil | !vs us uldum rutrow us laughing skull vodkadin |
| 06:44.53 | ThraeBot | aestil: Rutrow vs Vodkadin! Rutrow has +10 lvls on Vodkadin (29 vs 19); A L29 hunter and a L19 paladin square off!; 0/12/8 vs 0/10/0; Rutrow wins by 439 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 06:45.41 | Diao | noooo |
| 06:45.44 | Diao | a good wsg game |
| 06:46.04 | Diao | and the server crashes |
| 06:46.05 | Killmore2 | !vs us ysera ralloz us ysera belathis |
| 06:46.10 | ThraeBot | Killmore2: Ralloz vs Belathis! A L70 hunter and a L70 warrior square off!; 41/20/0 vs 12/3/46; Ralloz wins by 684 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 06:46.13 | Fin | BankStack appears to be taken directly from my desires, made into addon form |
| 06:46.14 | Keias | lol |
| 06:46.20 | Keias | This guy in our Warsong has beat WoW |
| 06:46.21 | Fin | Kemayo: thanks for BankStack! |
| 06:46.39 | Keias | both warglaives, cataclysm's edge, full s2 arena gear, and full BT tanking stuff |
| 06:46.49 | Diao | full bt dps gear too |
| 06:46.50 | Diao | :( |
| 06:56.53 | Kerafyrm | name and server? |
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| 07:12.22 | Fin | ckknight: turns out it's actually a pretty simple fix for the LookNFeel-not-saving-close-with-escape-and-large-player-arrow - can I commit it after testing? |
| 07:13.09 | ckknight | sounds good to me |
| 07:13.20 | Fin | spiff |
| 07:14.14 | Kerafyrm | thats reminds me |
| 07:14.21 | Kerafyrm | i need to load up cartographer on ptr |
| 07:14.31 | Kerafyrm | download new versions first of course |
| 07:16.44 | Fin | hmm |
| 07:16.54 | Fin | where is Cartographer's Look 'n' Feel module kept? |
| 07:17.14 | Fin | oh |
| 07:21.27 | testify | Does anyone know why Omen doesn't like misdirect? It continually shows bad results for a misdirected tank. |
| 07:31.00 | Orionshock | because everyone thinks that Omen/KTM get along and if ur group is running mixed clients then it'll fubar |
| 07:32.18 | Orionshock | fin.. what is this glitch u speak of? |
| 07:33.12 | Fin | you mean with Look 'n' Feel? |
| 07:33.19 | Fin | Cartographer stylee? |
| 07:33.52 | Orionshock | ya |
| 07:34.08 | Orionshock | ya im not experiancing this "glitch" u speak of.. |
| 07:34.42 | Fin | a "toggle" type AceOptions table entry sends either the value true or false, right? not true or nil? |
| 07:34.55 | Orionshock | iirc yes |
| 07:35.22 | Orionshock | lua> assert( false == nil) |
| 07:35.22 | cladbot | Orionshock: [string "assert( false == nil)"]:1: assertion failed! |
| 07:35.28 | Fin | guess I'll find out |
| 07:35.54 | Fin | Orionshock: have you toggled the option "Close with escape" on? and does it save after a reload? |
| 07:36.01 | Orionshock | yes |
| 07:36.09 | Orionshock | toggled it off |
| 07:36.10 | Orionshock | reloaded |
| 07:36.13 | Orionshock | toggled it on |
| 07:36.14 | Fin | on |
| 07:36.15 | Orionshock | reloaded |
| 07:36.24 | Orionshock | all normal |
| 07:36.39 | Fin | can you find the string "useEscape" it in your SavedVariables\Cartographer.lua? |
| 07:37.09 | Fin | does the same happen with "Large player arrow"? |
| 07:37.23 | Fin | I think it's possible that the setting might be carried over from previous versions |
| 07:37.39 | Orionshock | viable.. |
| 07:37.42 | Fin | also I might be wrong! |
| 07:37.44 | Fin | also viable |
| 07:37.48 | Fin | but |
| 07:37.56 | Orionshock | Fin: no i didn't find useEscape in my SV |
| 07:38.38 | Fin | Orionshock: well that's weird, because it shouldn't save the setting then, I think - I can't find where else it would be (I grepped Cartographer*) and in per-character saved var files) |
| 07:40.29 | Xelopheris | DST is FTW |
| 07:40.39 | Fin | daylight savings time? |
| 07:40.48 | Xelopheris | yeah |
| 07:40.51 | Fin | no wai |
| 07:40.53 | Xelopheris | that and the other DST that I finally got tonight |
| 07:40.57 | Fin | oh |
| 07:41.11 | Xelopheris | double DST happiness |
| 07:41.17 | Xelopheris | although I hate it in march |
| 07:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | oh right |
| 07:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | dst tonight |
| 07:41.26 | NightHawkTheSane | woo, extra hour of sleep! |
| 07:41.34 | Fin | pff |
| 07:41.37 | Fin | good one |
| 07:44.23 | Orionshock | found it Fin |
| 07:44.33 | Fin | where is it? |
| 07:44.56 | Orionshock | if the vaule of an option defined in the default registry is the same then it dosn't get put in the SV |
| 07:45.05 | Orionshock | set it to false and reload |
| 07:45.06 | Orionshock | it shows up. |
| 07:45.38 | Fin | hang on, I think I've fixed it anyway :) |
| 07:45.59 | Fin | incidentally the large player arrow thing is because of a mispaste, I think |
| 07:46.09 | Fin | yeah, woo |
| 07:46.11 | Orionshock | ckknight: any insight on that idea? |
| 07:47.09 | Orionshock | if the value of an option defined in the default registry is the same then it doesn't get put in the SV? |
| 07:47.20 | Orionshock | a functionality of the RockDB methods? |
| 07:47.42 | CIA-7 | 03fin * r53855 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer: Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: fixed bug where Look 'n' Feel options "Large player arrow" and "Close with escape" would not be saved after reloading the UI |
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| 07:51.18 | Fin | ckknight: can I close my bug in JIRA, or do you have to? |
| 07:51.29 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: acedb does that too, its a feature |
| 07:51.39 | Fin | Orionshock: I created a default for both options, and fixed the mispaste on largePlayer, btw |
| 07:52.07 | Orionshock | ... the default option for close with escape was already in there..? |
| 07:52.26 | Fin | in LookNFeel.lua? |
| 07:52.33 | Orionshock | aye |
| 07:52.50 | Arrowmaster | so if in a future version changes the default value, anybody that had it set to the old default gets it changed to the new default, makes more sense for non boolean stuff |
| 07:52.58 | Fin | so it is |
| 07:53.03 | Fin | oh, I think I know what it is |
| 07:53.05 | Orionshock | ln 343 |
| 07:53.35 | Fin | yeah, I just saw it |
| 07:53.41 | Orionshock | might have been a typo on the player arrow... |
| 07:54.03 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r53856 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 07:54.10 | Fin | so, I was wrong - but it fixed it, because the default was set to false rather than nil, I think |
| 07:54.29 | Orionshock | nope |
| 07:54.35 | Fin | why did it fix it, then? |
| 07:55.03 | Arrowmaster | you guys so just fucked that up |
| 07:55.09 | Arrowmaster | useEscape is in there twice now |
| 07:55.11 | Orionshock | lol |
| 07:55.15 | Fin | I know! |
| 07:55.40 | Fin | and it was just me that fucked up, not Orionshock |
| 07:55.40 | Orionshock | i didn't fk anything up |
| 07:55.40 | Fin | largePlayer is in there twice too |
| 07:55.41 | Orionshock | LOLOL |
| 07:55.41 | Arrowmaster | let me go have a look at fish |
| 07:55.42 | Fin | for what it's worth |
| 07:55.57 | Fin | so, Orionshock, why did setting the default to false fix it? |
| 07:56.18 | Fin | hey, no need to be rude |
| 07:56.20 | Orionshock | it didn't |
| 07:56.25 | Fin | well, yes, it did, for me |
| 07:56.34 | Fin | I did test it |
| 07:56.44 | Orionshock | ... |
| 07:56.50 | Fin | what does that mean? |
| 07:56.51 | Orionshock | if the value of an option defined in the default registry is the same then it doesn't get put in the SV |
| 07:57.14 | Orionshock | so the option of false is put into sv, otherwise it just pulls the defaults |
| 07:57.23 | Orionshock | im not quite sure what u did tbh |
| 07:57.29 | Fin | OK, then there's another bug - the default value is true, but it wasn't closing on escape |
| 07:57.46 | Orionshock | then u have a different problem... |
| 07:57.55 | Fin | I think |
| 07:59.14 | Arrowmaster | omg wtf |
| 07:59.21 | Arrowmaster | 'this' is used in that |
| 07:59.22 | Arrowmaster | wtf! |
| 08:00.13 | Fin | that you're right - I set it to true, so it's the same as the default, so it doesn't get saved, so when I (re)set the default to false, it saved; but that doesn't explain why it didn't work first off |
| 08:00.20 | Arrowmaster | omg this code is so fucking hacky |
| 08:00.27 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:00.39 | Arrowmaster | why is it nil'ing scripts on disable! what if something else hooked them |
| 08:01.34 | Fin | because it's naughty |
| 08:01.55 | Orionshock | fin... |
| 08:01.57 | Orionshock | DOH |
| 08:02.06 | Orionshock | why did u set the defaults to false? |
| 08:02.12 | Fin | why is it the times I feel most like fixing things are the times I'm probably most likely to make silly mistakes like that |
| 08:02.37 | Fin | Orionshock: because it was unset in my Cartographer before I'd tried to change it |
| 08:02.51 | Orionshock | wasn't broken...? |
| 08:03.02 | Orionshock | well the larg player arrow was but still |
| 08:03.03 | Fin | what? |
| 08:03.10 | Fin | it... was for me... |
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| 08:03.25 | Fin | I made a mistake? I didn't see the already-set default? |
| 08:03.27 | Orionshock | set the defaults back the way they where |
| 08:03.33 | Fin | I will |
| 08:03.54 | Fin | but I'd like to fix the problem, too |
| 08:04.04 | Orionshock | u did |
| 08:04.18 | Orionshock | now line 343 set it back to true |
| 08:05.02 | Arrowmaster | Fin: wtf editor are you using btw? |
| 08:05.26 | Arrowmaster | you changed like every whitespace tab on a blank line |
| 08:05.35 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua?r1=49250&r2=53855 |
| 08:08.26 | Fin | Orionshock: line 343 is still the same, you want me to remove the line I addded - but regardless, that isn't fixing the problem |
| 08:08.31 | Fin | Arrowmaster: SciTE |
| 08:08.38 | Orionshock | set it to true |
| 08:08.42 | Orionshock | not remove it |
| 08:08.43 | Orionshock | .>? |
| 08:08.59 | Fin | no, Orionshock, you're not quite understanding my mistake |
| 08:09.08 | Orionshock | dude - we want the thing to close with escape |
| 08:09.11 | Orionshock | by default! |
| 08:09.20 | Fin | right |
| 08:09.22 | Fin | I understand you |
| 08:09.45 | CIA-7 | 03arrowmaster * r53857 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel: fix defaults |
| 08:10.40 | Fin | eesh, seriously - is it really necessary to insult me? |
| 08:10.53 | Orionshock | not insulting - mostly just poking fun |
| 08:10.59 | Fin | it's actually you just not understanding something in this case; but it doesn't make any difference |
| 08:11.55 | Fin | I added a line. it was not line 343. the line reset the default. you asked me to change line 343. it's irrelevant, but please, it's a bit silly talking about clue by 4s when I was just pointing that out. |
| 08:12.11 | Fin | anyway - if the defaults are back to how they were before, then the problem's still there |
| 08:12.25 | Fin | Arrowmaster: I did say I would reset it; did you not believe me? |
| 08:12.57 | Arrowmaster | nah just trolling for more commits |
| 08:13.03 | Arrowmaster | i havent commited anything in a while |
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| 08:13.39 | Fin | hah, right |
| 08:15.23 | Xinhuan | arrowmaster, can you fix cartographer_instancenotes? there's an error somewhere |
| 08:15.31 | Arrowmaster | there is? |
| 08:15.39 | Orionshock | yes i understand fin there was typo further down that was fubaring it, i was mentioning that you also changed the default option to false as well. |
| 08:15.40 | Xinhuan | line 261 and line 274 |
| 08:15.46 | Xinhuan | CartographerLookNFeelOverlayHolder:DisableDrawLayer("ARTWORK");-- Forcibly hide ALL map overlays. Just hiding them individually does not work since they get re-shown when we get new map events (i.e. due to zoning). |
| 08:15.53 | Xinhuan | CartographerLookNFeelOverlayHolder:EnableDrawLayer("ARTWORK"); |
| 08:15.55 | Xinhuan | those 2 lines |
| 08:16.05 | Xinhuan | they error if InstanceNotes is enabled and LookNFeel is disabled |
| 08:16.11 | Xinhuan | since that frame doesn't exist |
| 08:20.03 | Fin | oh, finally figured out what that SciTE thing was |
| 08:20.12 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: i dont see that on those lines for instancenotes |
| 08:20.18 | Fin | Arrowmaster: I have it set so that SciTE strips trailing spaces, that's all |
| 08:20.24 | Xinhuan | hmm let me go update |
| 08:20.29 | Xinhuan | i may not have the latest versions |
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| 08:23.17 | Xinhuan | i still see those lines Arrowmaster |
| 08:23.18 | cncfanatics | DisableDrawLayer ? Didn't know that func |
| 08:23.20 | cncfanatics | handy thing |
| 08:23.31 | Xinhuan | can you search the file InstanceMaps.lua for the word "feel" |
| 08:23.46 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: ah you said instancenotes earlyer |
| 08:24.01 | Xinhuan | ah sorry |
| 08:24.07 | Xinhuan | i meant instancemaps then :) |
| 08:27.39 | CIA-7 | 03arrowmaster * r53858 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps: bugfix for LookNFeel possibly not being enabled |
| 08:28.10 | Arrowmaster | so with LookNFeel right now it still doesnt close on Escape? |
| 08:29.17 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: ?? what did u do? |
| 08:29.23 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:29.51 | Arrowmaster | test it and see if it works |
| 08:30.15 | Orionshock | .. nevermind |
| 08:30.28 | Orionshock | im going a bit crazy |
| 08:33.38 | Fin | Arrowmaster: no, it doesn't |
| 08:34.02 | Fin | (if I remove the "useEscape" entry from my SavedVariables file) |
| 08:34.15 | Arrowmaster | what is the entry set to? |
| 08:34.25 | Arrowmaster | true? |
| 08:34.28 | Fin | as long as it's set in the SavedVariables file, it seems to save the setting OK |
| 08:35.23 | Fin | so, I dunno, some sort of problem with AceDB somewhere? if you set "close with escape" in Cartographer, it doesn't save the setting because it's the same as the default, but it's not closing on escape by default - but if it's set in SavedVariables, then it does |
| 08:35.29 | Fin | it was set to true, yes |
| 08:35.59 | Xinhuan | is the code specifically checking for equality with false? |
| 08:36.03 | Xinhuan | or equality with nil |
| 08:36.14 | Xinhuan | there is a difference |
| 08:36.37 | Fin | btw, when would ToggleUseEscape(value) ever be called with value = nil? |
| 08:36.45 | Fin | why is the check there at the beginning of the function? |
| 08:36.49 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 08:37.04 | Fin | it's only called from the args table |
| 08:37.04 | Arrowmaster | something to do with the config i bet |
| 08:37.09 | Fin | Xinhuan: I wondered about that as well |
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| 08:37.38 | Arrowmaster | so it only works if you set it to true in your SV |
| 08:37.53 | Fin | Xinhuan: I asked earlier if AceOptions table "toggle" entries only call with true or false as the values |
| 08:38.00 | Arrowmaster | its not using ace |
| 08:38.03 | Arrowmaster | its using rock |
| 08:38.07 | Fin | that seems to be correct |
| 08:38.17 | Fin | OK, well, perhaps I asked the wrong question |
| 08:38.25 | Xinhuan | rock uses the same as ace i believe |
| 08:38.51 | Xinhuan | if a value is the same as the default, it nils the value so it doesn't save |
| 08:39.02 | Xinhuan | when retrieving a nil value that has a default, a metatable returns the default value |
| 08:39.06 | Arrowmaster | try taking it out of your SV and typing /print Cartographer_LookNFeel.db.profile.useEscape |
| 08:39.07 | Fin | and why would you set "value" to _not_ self.db.profile.useEscape - so it's forced to be set and saved? |
| 08:39.13 | Fin | aha |
| 08:39.31 | Arrowmaster | not'ing it is toggling it |
| 08:39.36 | Fin | yes |
| 08:39.39 | Fin | but why toggle on nil? |
| 08:39.52 | Xinhuan | not nil is true |
| 08:39.58 | Fin | yes... that's toggling it :) |
| 08:40.04 | Arrowmaster | because if you dont provide a value then toggle it, otherwise set it to whatever you passed |
| 08:40.28 | Xinhuan | the default is true, so it isn't saved |
| 08:40.43 | Xinhuan | meaning, a value of "nil" returns "true" when you retrieve it |
| 08:40.44 | Arrowmaster | if you pass a value your not really toggling it, your setting it to whatever you passed even if its already set to that |
| 08:40.47 | Fin | wait |
| 08:41.10 | Xinhuan | p.s. i hate acedbs because of its extensive use of metatables, complicates things a lot |
| 08:41.55 | Arrowmaster | so how about that value from /print Cartographer_LookNFeel.db.profile.useEscape after removing the useEscape from your SV? |
| 08:42.07 | Xinhuan | it will print TRUE because the default is true |
| 08:42.12 | Xinhuan | even though the table entry doesn't exist |
| 08:42.14 | Fin | if self.db.profile.useEscape is nil, ie not set, and not false, then Cartographer checks to see if it should close on escape, and since it's set to nil it doesn't. if it's set to true, then the setting isn't saved, it's nil'ed, but that's ignored |
| 08:42.19 | Xinhuan | due to metatable lookup |
| 08:42.30 | Arrowmaster | no no no |
| 08:42.30 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 08:42.38 | Fin | :) |
| 08:42.40 | Arrowmaster | self.db.profile.useEscape will never be nil |
| 08:42.51 | Arrowmaster | because self.db is not the same as the SV |
| 08:42.59 | Fin | except if it's the same as the default, isn't that what Xinhuan said? |
| 08:43.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:43.06 | Xinhuan | it can be nil, its just that a metatable causes it not be be nil |
| 08:43.21 | Xinhuan | it has __index and __newindex set |
| 08:43.34 | Fin | oh, OK |
| 08:43.36 | Arrowmaster | if its the same as the default it WILL be set in self.db but it WILL NOT be written to the SV |
| 08:43.59 | Xinhuan | it doesn't write to the SV because the actual table doesn't contani the key-value pair |
| 08:44.05 | Arrowmaster | basicly when it loads if the value isnt found in the SV it just uses the default |
| 08:44.11 | Xinhuan | wow uses a simple pairs() loop to save the SV |
| 08:44.37 | Xinhuan | pairs() doesn't loop over key-value pairs that dont' exist |
| 08:44.39 | CIA-7 | 03daviesh * r53859 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (Atlas1.10.3compat.lua AtlasLoot.lua AtlasLoot.xml): |
| 08:44.39 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:44.39 | CIA-7 | - Enabled a method of compatibility with the Beta version of Atlas |
| 08:44.45 | Xinhuan | but only "exist" due to a metatable |
| 08:45.02 | Arrowmaster | and self.db is not the same as the SV var |
| 08:45.45 | Arrowmaster | when you change stuff in self.db the metatables will cause it to change the SV var |
| 08:46.08 | Fin | self.db should be a mix of the saved settings + defaults, no |
| 08:46.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:46.19 | Arrowmaster | because of the metatables |
| 08:46.40 | Arrowmaster | now take the useEscape out of your SV and do /print Cartographer_LookNFeel.db.profile.useEscape for me |
| 08:46.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to have to start wow |
| 08:47.05 | Fin | I have done, and I didn't want to either - it's crashing my machine atm |
| 08:47.16 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 08:47.51 | Fin | empty result |
| 08:47.55 | Xinhuan | Cartographer.db.raw.namespaces == CartographerDB |
| 08:47.57 | Fin | .useEscape is not set |
| 08:48.07 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 08:48.14 | Arrowmaster | ok bitch at CK to fix rock then |
| 08:48.24 | Xinhuan | hmm wait it prints false |
| 08:48.43 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/76597 |
| 08:49.33 | Fin | I think I have power supply issues |
| 08:49.50 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: toggle the option and RL |
| 08:49.54 | Orionshock | then check ur SV |
| 08:50.11 | Xinhuan | not now heh, i'm in raid |
| 08:50.21 | Arrowmaster | based on Fins pastey i think rockdb is broken |
| 08:50.26 | Orionshock | ya /rl mid fight... |
| 08:50.34 | Fin | I take back what I said about it being a simple fix |
| 08:50.35 | Orionshock | does wonders for mods they go all to hell |
| 08:51.08 | Xinhuan | this will print true: /print Cartographer.db.raw.namespaces == CartographerDB.namespaces |
| 08:51.18 | Xinhuan | go figur |
| 08:51.20 | Xinhuan | +e |
| 08:51.24 | Fin | both nil? :P |
| 08:51.35 | Arrowmaster | both the same table |
| 08:51.49 | Fin | it was a joke |
| 08:52.19 | Xinhuan | there is no sense to have a sv table duplicated Arrowmaster, if you claim that the SV table isn't the same as a self.db table |
| 08:52.31 | Arrowmaster | its not duplicated |
| 08:52.35 | Arrowmaster | its linked |
| 08:52.51 | Arrowmaster | its the exact same table not a copy |
| 08:52.58 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 08:53.00 | Arrowmaster | you change one it changes the other |
| 08:53.05 | Xinhuan | hence they all have metatables attached |
| 08:53.05 | Arrowmaster | its just a reference |
| 08:53.19 | Arrowmaster | no not because of metatables |
| 08:53.27 | Arrowmaster | because its the same table |
| 08:53.35 | Arrowmaster | its not a copy |
| 08:54.20 | Xinhuan | yeah hence modifying the table via direct SV or via self.db is the same thing |
| 08:54.29 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:54.42 | Arrowmaster | db.raw is the SV, other db.profile is not |
| 08:55.44 | Xinhuan | decided to never use acedb or rockdb :p |
| 08:55.58 | Arrowmaster | you dont fully understand them |
| 08:56.04 | Fin | does anybody? |
| 08:56.06 | Xinhuan | now i do |
| 08:56.17 | Xinhuan | you're saying .profile references .raw for the data |
| 08:56.22 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:56.45 | Fin | .raw is the SV, .profile is the SV + defaults |
| 08:56.51 | Fin | ? |
| 08:56.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:57.06 | Fin | well, it should be anyway |
| 08:57.12 | Arrowmaster | .profile is the one with the metatables so that when you change it .raw gets changed |
| 08:57.28 | Xinhuan | thats what i just said sigh |
| 08:57.31 | Fin | or doesn't, if it's the same as the default |
| 08:57.34 | Xinhuan | .profile references .raw for the data via metatables |
| 08:57.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:57.48 | Arrowmaster | dont say references |
| 08:57.57 | Fin | references |
| 08:58.04 | Xinhuan | maybe references is a bad word in this context |
| 08:58.10 | Fin | (sorry) |
| 08:58.14 | Xinhuan | "refers" could be a better wor? |
| 08:58.15 | Xinhuan | word? |
| 08:58.27 | Arrowmaster | references makes it sound like your saying its the same |
| 08:58.34 | Arrowmaster | due to the way tables work |
| 08:58.41 | Xinhuan | nah i know what you mean, i used the wrong word |
| 08:58.51 | Fin | it's not a pointer, basically? |
| 08:58.55 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 08:59.06 | Xinhuan | its not a pointer, it just has metatables to point to it |
| 08:59.14 | Fin | hahah |
| 08:59.18 | Arrowmaster | but Cartographer.db.raw is a pointer to CartographerDB |
| 08:59.21 | Fin | 5 points |
| 08:59.30 | Arrowmaster | so theyre exactly the same table |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53860 10ClosetGnome_TooltipX/ (9 files): |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | ClosetGnome_TooltipX: |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | - toc changed |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | - removed enable/disable |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | - changed default setting: MultiLine is DEFAULT |
| 08:59.32 | CIA-7 | - changed default setting: LineBreak=3 is DEFAULT |
| 09:00.10 | Orionshock | oy! |
| 09:00.14 | Fin | vey |
| 09:00.16 | Orionshock | not again with the TooltipX |
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| 09:00.37 | Fin | did you know, "kunda" translates to a very rude word in Czech |
| 09:01.02 | MoonWolf | every word translates into something in some language |
| 09:01.06 | Xinhuan | wow i hate blizzard, they added GameTooltip:SetGuildBankItem(tab, slot) |
| 09:01.18 | Xinhuan | so all these addons now have to hook that |
| 09:01.19 | Fin | I will uncharacteristically refrain from being blunt enough to say which one |
| 09:01.25 | MoonWolf | thats sounds like a good thing imho |
| 09:01.26 | Xinhuan | to add their tooltip data |
| 09:01.36 | Arrowmaster | lua> t={};t.a={};t.b={};t.a.c=true;t.b.c=true; return t.a == t.b |
| 09:01.36 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 09:01.46 | Orionshock | so is guild bank items available anywhere or ONLY at the bank? |
| 09:01.56 | Xinhuan | only at the bank |
| 09:01.59 | MoonWolf | onyl at bank |
| 09:02.04 | MoonWolf | only* |
| 09:02.14 | Fin | does one have to laugh while travelling to the bank? |
| 09:02.18 | Arrowmaster | lua> t={};t.a={};t.b=t.a;t.a.c=true; return t.a == t.b |
| 09:02.19 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 09:02.28 | Xinhuan | brb, azgalor arriving, need to concentrate on avoiding rain of fire :) |
| 09:02.37 | Fin | if so, is laughing required the entire journey? |
| 09:02.48 | [Ammo] | haha he removed the enable/disable from TooltipX |
| 09:02.49 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:02.50 | MoonWolf | hmm, last 20% should be enough |
| 09:02.55 | [Ammo] | see, not a useful feature afterall |
| 09:03.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
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| 09:05.45 | Lukian | [Ammo], Haha score :D |
| 09:06.18 | MoonWolf | are you happy now [ammo] / |
| 09:06.24 | MoonWolf | ?* |
| 09:08.12 | Xinhuan | argh 26% wipe |
| 09:09.03 | nevcairiel | anyone with an US account awake that could respond to Slouken on the forums for me? |
| 09:09.57 | [Ammo] | not happy, just mildly pleased |
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| 09:12.29 | Lukian | nevcairiel, sure |
| 09:12.31 | Lukian | msg me |
| 09:15.02 | nevcairiel | Lukian: got Tekkub to do it already, but thanks |
| 09:17.34 | Lukian | nps :D |
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| 09:27.12 | Orionshock | ~botmail Ominous US5 - can u delete the folder and when u run the data miner again plz |
| 09:27.31 | Lukian | Any new addons I should check out? :D |
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| 09:47.03 | Kerafyrm | Antiarc: ping |
| 09:48.32 | Kerafyrm | Antiarc: disregard..fixed it meself :P |
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| 10:54.18 | nevcairiel | Saroz: gief config mode for sRF that shows all frames :S |
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| 11:21.28 | CIA-7 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:21.28 | CIA-7 | - zhTW translation update |
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| 11:27.48 | Orionshock | wow.... |
| 11:28.00 | Orionshock | 1st night on netherspite - 9 attempts and we down him :D |
| 11:28.43 | Zhinjio|sleep | he's a fun ffight. |
| 11:29.46 | Zhinjio | its all about the blue beam. |
| 11:29.55 | Orionshock | fk that |
| 11:29.57 | Zhinjio | just love seeing that effect stack like 45 times. |
| 11:29.59 | Orionshock | it's all about the transition |
| 11:30.17 | Zhinjio | and seeing s.priests, mages and locks just pwn. |
| 11:30.45 | Zhinjio | which transition? |
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| 11:32.11 | Codayus | Heh |
| 11:32.20 | Codayus | It IS a fun fight, but there's a lot of things to juggle. |
| 11:32.53 | Codayus | Not letting the green beam touch him is key too, for example. |
| 11:33.01 | Zhinjio | of course. |
| 11:33.18 | Zhinjio | thats huge wasted time if your ot can't pick it up quick |
| 11:33.21 | Codayus | Hmm, I think Netherspite is my favorite Kara fight though. |
| 11:33.41 | Corgan | Aran is my fav :D |
| 11:33.55 | Codayus | Zhinjio: For many raids, a couple seconds of green beam healing will be a wipe - it heals on an exponential curve, and he DOES have an enrage timer. |
| 11:34.05 | Zhinjio | tryiung to explain it to a new bunch of folks is not fun, but usually after one attempt or so everyone uinderstands wtf is going on |
| 11:34.11 | Zhinjio | yup. |
| 11:34.14 | Zhinjio | yeah, 9 minutes. |
| 11:34.52 | Zhinjio | or 10. I don't remember. anyway, yeah. |
| 11:35.10 | Worf | well, Netherspite is more a "one wipe per newbie" - kind of encounter |
| 11:35.22 | Codayus | Yeah...well, tanks sometimes need a couple of wipes. |
| 11:35.25 | Zhinjio | I do enjoy that one though |
| 11:36.28 | Codayus | Assuming you have an experienced core, it's hard for new raiders to screw you up too badly. |
| 11:37.11 | Orionshock | but still 9th try @ Netherspite and we down'ed him |
| 11:37.15 | Codayus | Unlike, say, Solarian. :-( "Well, bells were going off, and everyone was saying my name...I just kinda thoight I had won the lottery!" -- Actual quote from a paladin last Friday, after wiping a raid. |
| 11:37.34 | Codayus | I should have recorded it. :-( |
| 11:37.39 | Worf | muhahaha |
| 11:38.21 | Zhinjio | thats good work, Orionshock. |
| 11:38.30 | Zhinjio | I'm curious what you meant about transition, though |
| 11:38.40 | Orionshock | .. only 2/3 of us had done it before but not on the current toons |
| 11:38.57 | Orionshock | the beem rotations between the tanks and healers and dps |
| 11:39.13 | Orionshock | the rotations mid banish ect |
| 11:39.16 | Orionshock | timmings a bitch |
| 11:39.27 | Zhinjio | our guild uses a different strat for that that simplifies it alot. |
| 11:39.37 | Codayus | The learning curve fo tanks is...high. I have a screenshot somewhere of our MT with 1 of 1 HP, tanking Netherspite. |
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| 11:39.52 | Codayus | Everyone else...shouldn't matter too much. |
| 11:39.59 | Codayus | (With our strat; YMMV.) |
| 11:40.26 | Zhinjio | MT and OT swap green and red. green stays in the full time, red "does the dance" |
| 11:40.27 | CIA-7 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r53865 10IceHUD_Hunter/modules/PetControl.lua: IceHUD_Hunter : fixed problems in PetControl.lua |
| 11:40.35 | Zhinjio | 2 healers on whomever is in blue beam. |
| 11:40.36 | nevcairiel | we just have 2 tanks and like a pally and a healing druid that take over the red beam |
| 11:40.39 | Zhinjio | and we don't rotate it. |
| 11:40.43 | nevcairiel | no learning curve for the dance |
| 11:40.46 | Zhinjio | just have the same person stay in blue the entire time. |
| 11:40.52 | Worf | strange ... i only tanket that one once (with my twink) but the only problem i see tanking him is finding the red portal fast enough |
| 11:41.08 | Zhinjio | its much easier if its a lock or s.priest since they can regain some of their own health on their own with drain life. |
| 11:41.24 | Zhinjio | their damage goes to just insane levels once they stack blue like... 45 times |
| 11:41.33 | Codayus | We do - phase 1: MT in red (dancing). OT in green. 1-2 DPS in blue. |
| 11:41.45 | nevcairiel | full blue can be dangerous tho, if a void zone spawns below him in the final stage, it could easily one hit |
| 11:41.46 | Zhinjio | so we generally have 2 people who swap blue, and 2 for backup in case they die |
| 11:41.58 | Codayus | Phase 2: OT in red (dancing). MT in green. Another 1-2 DPS in blue. If healers have mana issues, they briefly run through green. |
| 11:41.59 | Zhinjio | yup. |
| 11:42.07 | Zhinjio | yup. |
| 11:42.10 | Zhinjio | thats exactly it. |
| 11:42.20 | Worf | aye |
| 11:42.31 | nevcairiel | the dancing is stupid, just get a pally or a druid in bear take it over =P |
| 11:42.33 | Codayus | Spriests, locks, and well geared people take a full blue phase. Random alt hunters usually stay in for too long and die. :-( |
| 11:42.34 | Zhinjio | we usually have 2 healers on blue, and a pally or druid or whatever raid healing, but they don't do much |
| 11:42.35 | nevcairiel | for 10s |
| 11:43.12 | Zhinjio | meh, its not that hard. |
| 11:43.12 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Dancing is trivial, never EVER wipes because it didn't work. Transitions are always trickier...and here, uneeded. |
| 11:43.14 | nevcairiel | we usually just let the tank run down to 10k hp, then the resto druid switches to bear and takes over |
| 11:43.26 | Codayus | (If your tank can't dance, /gkick them. Seriously. Not kidding.) |
| 11:43.32 | nevcairiel | we never wiped on the tank transition |
| 11:43.37 | Zhinjio | us either |
| 11:43.48 | Orionshock | << New guild |
| 11:43.53 | Orionshock | :D |
| 11:43.56 | nevcairiel | dancing increases dps on the raid, tho |
| 11:43.59 | Worf | and what do you do if you have exactely 2 people in the raid that can tank? |
| 11:44.00 | Zhinjio | its usually because someone misses green beam, or all our dps dies from not getting heals in blue beam |
| 11:44.19 | Zhinjio | nah, I've never seen him leave the red beam person even when they're dancing |
| 11:44.52 | nevcairiel | nah not that, but when he gets the red buff, the aura has increased damage |
| 11:44.59 | Codayus | We wipe due to green beam rarely (just using a MT/OT cycle for red and green makes this simpler though, since there's never any question as to who should pick up green). Mostly we wipe due to healers standing in void zones, I think. :-( |
| 11:45.02 | Zhinjio | ah, I see. |
| 11:45.23 | Zhinjio | yeah, people not seeing the damn void wastes |
| 11:45.29 | Zhinjio | that sucks. |
| 11:45.29 | nevcairiel | i havent been to kara for ages |
| 11:45.34 | nevcairiel | and prolly wont be either |
| 11:45.43 | nevcairiel | maybe with some toon |
| 11:47.00 | Codayus | Heh, I led an alt run last week, first time in a couple months. Was...weird. |
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| 11:47.43 | Codayus | Although screwed up class balance probably explained a fair bit of that. :-/ |
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| 11:48.46 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:48.46 | CIA-7 | -add some lost items in zhCN.they are still need to be translated. |
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| 11:50.37 | Worf | in our guild every now and then - there starts some main vs. alts discussion... "they're equipping their alts while still mains have need", "they collect dkp with their alts", "they do this", "they do that" ... then usually some raid happens where someone saves the day with his alt, and then the voices fall silent |
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| 11:51.55 | Worf | ... or two simultaneous karazhan runs where the raid with the main chars falls behind the raid with 2/3 alts ... |
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| 11:59.04 | Orionshock | main > alt |
| 11:59.11 | Orionshock | if u don't understand that then ur stupid |
| 11:59.33 | Worf | define ">" |
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| 12:00.16 | ScoTTie | greater than ? |
| 12:01.02 | Srosh | Mains should always have loot priority over alts. |
| 12:01.32 | Worf | yeah but like "someone is forced to help with his alt 5 raids in sequence but has no right for any loot"? or "some fair preference for mains without totally negating the chances for alts"? |
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| 12:02.25 | Srosh | Common sense is to be applied of course. Loot priority should only cover raid specs. |
| 12:02.52 | Cartas | Someone is forced to raid with their alt 5 times in sequence? |
| 12:02.57 | Cartas | What instance is this? |
| 12:03.20 | Worf | only karazhan, but still... |
| 12:03.23 | Wobin | In Kara, our raid leader often specs in her alts to fill in spots |
| 12:03.32 | Cartas | Ah |
| 12:03.33 | Wobin | if, say we're short enough healers/dps/tank etc |
| 12:03.38 | Cartas | In Karazhan, we just let everyone /roll. |
| 12:03.40 | Wobin | for a specific fight |
| 12:03.51 | Cartas | Mains or randoms or alts. |
| 12:03.55 | Cartas | Anyone can get loot! |
| 12:05.02 | Worf | back before BC we had some rule for alts in the big raids (where alts were allowed, which was first only MC and somewhen later BWL): they pay double dkp for items. |
| 12:05.40 | Chompers | we give alts free items |
| 12:05.56 | Chompers | horay! |
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| 12:14.15 | Codayus | I tend to think giving alts loot for free is better than charging them any amount. |
| 12:14.51 | Codayus | Otherwise, it gets a bit...odd. Since people end up having to make a tradeoff - gear up my main (and help the raid progress) or gear up my alt (for fun)... |
| 12:14.52 | Wobin | well for kara sure |
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| 12:15.57 | Codayus | Mmm, well, we don't use DKP in kara. I was thinking back to the old 40 mans, which was the last time we mixed DKP and alts regularly. :-) |
| 12:16.03 | Orionshock | anyone here done the druid epic form quest? |
| 12:16.08 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 12:16.27 | Orionshock | .. im stuck on the last link.... >.> |
| 12:16.36 | nevcairiel | what was that again? |
| 12:16.55 | Orionshock | never mind :D |
| 12:17.04 | Orionshock | it's the moonstone one |
| 12:17.18 | nevcairiel | in azshara? |
| 12:17.36 | Worf | Codayus: same here - dkp is way to much work for karazhan |
| 12:17.37 | Orionshock | ya |
| 12:17.44 | nevcairiel | just l2swim |
| 12:17.45 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:18.03 | Orionshock | i was wondering - how exactly does one "catch" a green npc? |
| 12:18.12 | nevcairiel | just dont loose him |
| 12:18.25 | nevcairiel | quest will finish at the bridge to ashenvale |
| 12:18.37 | Orionshock | just found that out |
| 12:18.59 | Wobin | with a green npc gun |
| 12:19.02 | Wobin | Naturally =P |
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| 12:33.50 | Worf | Wobin: where do you get a green npc gun? can i get a blue noob gun there too? :) |
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| 12:34.13 | Wobin | well what you do, is you get a green noob gun |
| 12:34.38 | Wobin | Then you feed the noob garbage til he turns blue |
| 12:34.41 | Wobin | er green |
| 12:34.48 | Wobin | then shoot him with the green noob gun |
| 12:35.03 | Orionshock | ok if _G is the global scope, what is _D ? |
| 12:35.04 | Wobin | There's an elephant in there somewhere =P |
| 12:35.04 | Worf | sounds easy |
| 12:35.57 | Orionshock | eedk |
| 12:36.10 | Orionshock | .. need a shift key work arround >.> |
| 12:36.34 | Wobin | I didn't think there was a _D |
| 12:37.40 | Worf | so the challenge is to find the right things to turn a noob from blue to green ... that makes sense ... that way the yellow friends turn red in his view and they ... wait ... i don't need a green noob gun then! :) |
| 12:38.13 | Orionshock | Wob i've seen a _D referenced in some mod... |
| 12:38.31 | Wobin | maybe that was a custom job? There's no official representation at least |
| 12:38.41 | Wobin | (that I'm aware of) |
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| 12:40.20 | Saroz | nevcairiel -.-, code it! :) |
| 12:42.09 | omega | oh, a typo in aceaddon-3.0 |
| 12:42.15 | omega | AceAddon.statuses = AceAddon.statues or {} -- statuses of addon. |
| 12:42.52 | omega | statues != statuses |
| 12:43.35 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:43.38 | Wobin | good catch |
| 12:43.47 | omega | still broken i beta branch |
| 12:44.03 | omega | well, the only way to try to figure out how to write an addon seems to be to read the source :p |
| 12:46.25 | Wobin | Just threw up a bugrep on Jira, ta =) |
| 12:47.02 | omega | ko |
| 12:47.38 | omega | ahh, you did it, coolio :p |
| 12:49.52 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53867 10AutoBar/ (6 files): |
| 12:49.52 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 12:49.52 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.22 beta () |
| 12:49.52 | CIA-7 | -- Fix profile reset & bar reset to work without errors & to actually just update like they should. |
| 12:51.02 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Beta * r53868 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: AceAddon-3.0: Fixed typo |
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| 12:52.20 | nevcairiel | omega: ya we're a bit behind on documentation, but thats what we're aiming for in this development period. :) |
| 12:52.51 | omega | nevcairiel: I saw that, so I ain't complaining :) |
| 12:53.45 | Routton | allright, Bartender3 problem: My WTF folder got cleared, and now Bar3 won´t switch bars on shapeshifts, which it should do automatically, any advice what could cause the problem? |
| 12:53.58 | omega | is there any like small example of something implemented in ace3 though? |
| 12:54.31 | Wobin | ag has his unitframes in Ace3 |
| 12:54.35 | Wobin | in the branches |
| 12:54.39 | nevcairiel | omega: you could check FishermansFriend in branches, or ammoDurability, both are still pretty small |
| 12:54.43 | Wobin | and I'm working on MrPlow2 in it |
| 12:54.50 | Chompers | Routton: when you right click the bar and go to button paging, is it enabled? |
| 12:55.13 | Routton | yes, to page 1 |
| 12:55.15 | Eggi | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FishermansFriend/Ace3/FishermansFriend.lua |
| 12:55.29 | Eggi | @omega |
| 12:55.38 | omega | yeah found it |
| 12:55.41 | omega | thanks |
| 12:55.54 | Chompers | try moving the paging to bar 4 |
| 12:55.57 | Chompers | or another bar |
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| 12:59.55 | Routton | Chompers, it shows the bar 4 on shapeshift then, with all the caster stuff on it. It should give me a blank bar for feral abilities right? |
| 13:00.26 | nevcairiel | only if you configured it to do that |
| 13:00.51 | Routton | that´s what i´m after, because it worked like that an hour ago, before my WTF got cleared |
| 13:01.03 | Chompers | i'm not sure how it works for druids |
| 13:01.26 | Chompers | but as a warrior i set my bar 1 to shift to 8 while in battle stance |
| 13:01.31 | nevcairiel | there is a "hide" option, to hide bars in a certain stance |
| 13:01.33 | Routton | it should give me a new Bar 1 for Bear, Cat, and Cat stealth |
| 13:01.35 | Chompers | bar 9 when in defensive stance |
| 13:01.39 | Chompers | and 10 in beserker |
| 13:02.18 | omega | is it normal to have so many "global" variables as FishermansFriend does? |
| 13:02.42 | nevcairiel | they are not global, they are local to that file |
| 13:02.48 | nevcairiel | hence the "local" in front of them |
| 13:03.05 | omega | yes, hence "global" and not global :p |
| 13:03.19 | nevcairiel | but yeah, alot of people use upvalues like that |
| 13:03.29 | omega | db = self.db.profile |
| 13:03.29 | nevcairiel | rather then storing it in the addon object |
| 13:03.39 | Wobin | omega: that's ultimately faster |
| 13:03.40 | omega | like that, why not just use self.db.profile ? |
| 13:03.45 | Wobin | since it's a local reference |
| 13:03.49 | Wobin | and not two table lookups |
| 13:03.49 | nevcairiel | upvalues are faster then table lookups |
| 13:04.03 | omega | ok |
| 13:04.24 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53869 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua Core.lua): |
| 13:04.24 | CIA-7 | AutoBar : |
| 13:04.24 | CIA-7 | -- Fix druid button refreshes |
| 13:05.00 | omega | function FishermansFriend:UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED( event, unit ) |
| 13:05.07 | omega | is all one needs to do to listen on events? |
| 13:05.15 | omega | and load AceEvent-3.0 |
| 13:05.39 | nevcairiel | self:RegisterEvent("UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED") |
| 13:05.40 | nevcairiel | is needed too |
| 13:06.01 | omega | aha |
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| 13:18.35 | omega | can I create a DB that is shared between all characters on all realms? |
| 13:19.19 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:19.23 | nevcairiel | use the default db |
| 13:19.26 | nevcairiel | or any custom db |
| 13:19.34 | nevcairiel | or use db.global |
| 13:23.20 | Toadkiller | mmm global seems undocumented here http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0 |
| 13:25.27 | Nefarion | account? |
| 13:25.44 | Nefarion | can't get more global than account anyway |
| 13:26.21 | nevcairiel | Toadkiller: global is AceDB-3.0 |
| 13:26.22 | Toadkiller | yeah wow doesnt save across accounts does it. |
| 13:26.35 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: ah right... |
| 13:27.21 | nevcairiel | there is no account key in AceDB-3.0 |
| 13:27.25 | nevcairiel | so that basicly is global now |
| 13:27.36 | Toadkiller | so kind of like a rename of account? |
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| 13:28.15 | omega | nevcairiel: so I do defaults = { global = { } } for intance? |
| 13:28.26 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:28.31 | nevcairiel | you need a subkey for every datatype |
| 13:31.11 | Toadkiller | Im not seeing a jira for it. is there a wiki or something? |
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| 13:33.29 | nevcairiel | as mentioned earlier, we're a bit behind on documentation, but thats our main goal before we go beta |
| 13:34.05 | nevcairiel | we just need to wiki it up :) |
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| 13:37.09 | mahti | Hello |
| 13:37.29 | mahti | What kind of castbars are there for Ace2? |
| 13:37.46 | |Stan| | nevcairiel: have you started working on BT4, yet? |
| 13:38.13 | nevcairiel | mahti: quartz |
| 13:38.33 | nevcairiel | |Stan|: in theory, i have |
| 13:39.09 | mahti | Hmm... Any others? |
| 13:39.46 | Nefarion | search wowi or something man |
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| 13:39.54 | Nefarion | http://wowinterface.com/ |
| 13:40.06 | Nefarion | but quartz is the best there is imo |
| 13:40.19 | mahti | ok |
| 13:50.00 | Orionshock | netherwing quests are proof that blizzard hates us |
| 13:53.34 | Hotphoenix | the relics one moreso |
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| 14:09.20 | CIA-7 | 03sayclub * r53870 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 14:09.20 | CIA-7 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 14:09.20 | CIA-7 | - Update koKR localization |
| 14:12.46 | Toadkiller | sayclub is a machine! |
| 14:12.56 | Wobin | yes =\ |
| 14:13.00 | Wobin | s/he really is =\ |
| 14:13.27 | Toadkiller | my guess is its soemone at an internet cafe or something |
| 14:13.37 | Wobin | or a series of people |
| 14:13.44 | Toadkiller | yeah |
| 14:13.50 | Toadkiller | like an actual club |
| 14:13.55 | Wobin | who have commited their lives to maintaining the korean translation of all possible addons |
| 14:14.30 | Toadkiller | the only more dedicated people are the 2 chinese translators |
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| 14:14.43 | Wobin | Who I suspect to be a group of people too =) |
| 14:14.52 | nevcairiel | cwdg is a group |
| 14:14.52 | Toadkiller | pretty much |
| 14:14.55 | nevcairiel | not sure about others |
| 14:15.19 | Toadkiller | the french & germans are real slackers imo when it comes to localization |
| 14:15.40 | Toadkiller | But the Italians are the worst. italian is totally mia |
| 14:16.20 | Wobin | But the french are always 'le tired' =) |
| 14:16.28 | Nefarion | how much info does DrDamage add to the tooltips? does it show damage per mana, damage per cast, damage per second, actual end damage with coeffs, etc? |
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| 14:17.27 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53871 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.lua PlowEngine.lua embeds.xml): MrPlow: Adding in Ace(ihasa)Bucket to try using the bag_updates to schedule the resorts. |
| 14:19.21 | [dRaCo] | that's because the german localisation sucks big time and everybody who's able to speak english uses the english client anyway |
| 14:19.42 | nevcairiel | how true |
| 14:19.44 | [dRaCo] | and those who don't can't translate the addons for obvious reasons |
| 14:20.21 | Toadkiller | oh the humanity! |
| 14:21.01 | Toadkiller | Any more progress on a localization database on the web for wowace? |
| 14:24.41 | silentium | german and french player have the advantage over chinese and korean players that they have an english language installer available |
| 14:24.44 | Toadkiller | German actually sucks because they have such long names. Why use Reset Bars when you can Gliebenglauben grubben das Bar (fake german btw) instead I guess. |
| 14:24.52 | CIA-7 | 03rophy * r53872 10FuBar_SpeedFu/SpeedFuLocals.lua: |
| 14:24.52 | CIA-7 | FuBar_SpeedFu: |
| 14:24.52 | CIA-7 | - zhCN locales from Yaroot. |
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| 14:25.27 | Wobin | oh man Sinfest.. http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2007-11-04.gif |
| 14:25.37 | Wobin | I remember the Phantom Zone =) |
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| 14:30.16 | Nefarion | lol |
| 14:35.02 | winkiller | Toadkiller: agreed. english most of the time is quite shorter :P (reset bars would be balken zurücksetzen or, to be formal balken auf standardeinstellung zurücksetzen) |
| 14:36.02 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:36.08 | Wobin | I always found german amusing because of that |
| 14:36.30 | Wobin | and their "How long can I make this word before I'm thrown out of the organisation for being too silly" game |
| 14:37.30 | nevcairiel | i just think it sounds wrong |
| 14:37.46 | harl|WoW | Prat's Editbox module seems to have caused an error of some kind while i was trying to configure it: .. http://harl.pastey.net/76608 |
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| 14:45.54 | Toadkiller | winkiller: hehe I like the formal one, its even longer than I imagined ;-p |
| 14:47.02 | winkiller | well, the problem is that "balken zurücksetzen" with out "reset bars _to default_" could also mean to move the physical arm of a gate for example |
| 14:47.06 | Toadkiller | I like german sentence structure though it is almost identical to my native tongue which is a dutch derivative |
| 14:47.30 | winkiller | thus you have to clarify it. "reset" is kinda technical term, zurücksetzen isn't computer related atr all |
| 14:47.38 | Fin | man |
| 14:47.48 | winkiller | dutch derivative? |
| 14:47.52 | winkiller | afrikaans? :P |
| 14:47.54 | Toadkiller | Afrikaans |
| 14:47.57 | Fin | opticians that have an out-of-focus menu that comes into focus when you mouseover... |
| 14:47.58 | winkiller | hehe |
| 14:48.00 | Fin | are they taking the piss or what? |
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| 14:48.44 | Wobin | Fin: yes |
| 14:50.11 | Fin | ... who have called themselves "Golden Eye Optic" |
| 14:51.57 | Toadkiller | Go with Woodland Critters Optic imo |
| 14:52.31 | grzesieq | Bah. I hate how there's no Mac support on eu forums :< |
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| 14:55.41 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53873 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 14:55.41 | CIA-7 | FuBar_DurabilityFu: |
| 14:55.41 | CIA-7 | - update zhTW localization |
| 15:06.17 | Gagorian | Nefarion: All of that and more |
| 15:06.29 | Nefarion | umm |
| 15:06.38 | Nefarion | oh regarding drdamage? |
| 15:06.39 | Gagorian | The DrDamage question |
| 15:06.40 | Gagorian | yes |
| 15:06.48 | Nefarion | yeah i found some info already, but thanks =) |
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| 15:09.11 | Nefarion | are there any screenshots around of the different DaHUD setups available? |
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| 15:40.57 | harl|WoW | hmpf. my chat frame buttons flicker -.- |
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| 15:42.16 | Nefarion | ? |
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| 16:05.56 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
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| 16:16.49 | hArl | nevermind. there was an add-on conflict between Prat and ChatMOD, but my current intention was to remove ChatMOD anyway. |
| 16:19.04 | Brunera | why use two chatmods? |
| 16:19.40 | Cartas | Prat fails. |
| 16:19.57 | Brunera | doing what? |
| 16:22.23 | Gnarfoz | nothing, actually, it's superior to chatmod in any way imagineable :D |
| 16:22.41 | Cartas | But it's not superior to some other mods |
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| 16:34.58 | Nefarion | when did omgphatloots go down? |
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| 16:37.08 | Knaledge | Should I be using Fubar2 and Cartographer1 as opposed to Fubar and Cartographer? |
| 16:37.23 | Knaledge | bleeding edge wise |
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| 16:37.56 | Nefarion | fubar and cartographer are the newest available |
| 16:38.08 | Knaledge | What is Fubar2 then? |
| 16:38.20 | Knaledge | toc just says "Ace2 override...." |
| 16:38.32 | Nefarion | it's the old version |
| 16:38.42 | Nefarion | kept alive by a few people for...i don't know what reason |
| 16:38.52 | Knaledge | so Fubar2 is the old version |
| 16:38.57 | Knaledge | and Fubar is the newest? |
| 16:39.00 | Nefarion | yes, running on Ace2 |
| 16:39.25 | Nefarion | FuBar and Cartographer are the newest, actively maintained by the original author (ckknight) |
| 16:39.45 | Knaledge | Have you gotten any people in here confused about that other than myself? I update via SVN direct through bash but I can imagine this might appear differently to someone using MacAceUpdater or WAU, etc. |
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| 16:40.14 | Knaledge | I know for sure if I were using MAU or WAU I'd have deleted Fubar and installed Fubar2 |
| 16:40.19 | Nefarion | some people get confused once in a while. |
| 16:40.48 | Knaledge | Hrm, well I digress |
| 16:40.55 | Knaledge | What I wanted to ask really though |
| 16:41.06 | Nefarion | yeah that makes it look a lot like the "latest and greatest" with the "2" tag |
| 16:41.12 | Knaledge | Is there any way for an SVN client to... be ..adaptive? |
| 16:41.20 | Nefarion | ...explain? |
| 16:41.25 | Knaledge | (I would sggest just chaging it to "old") |
| 16:41.29 | Knaledge | well.. |
| 16:41.47 | Knaledge | Right now I'm spending a lot of time looking at the Ace SVN and Norganna's SVN and Dan's SVN... |
| 16:42.12 | Knaledge | because when I update with my bash scripts now, I occasionally get a "path does not exist" error (though I have it set to just ignore and move on) |
| 16:42.20 | Nefarion | somebody else 'round here's probably more well-equipped to answer SVN-related questions than me =X |
| 16:42.31 | Knaledge | So I'm now going back through my scripts and comparing whats in my script vs the SVN |
| 16:43.33 | Knaledge | well bottom line is I am looking for a solution that can somehow acknowledge a path is missing or no longer present on the server AND instead of just notifying me, it tries to redirect the path to the right place... perhaps something that can be done server side? |
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| 16:44.12 | Knaledge | Like several of my LibXXXX are out of date now because they apparently haven't been updating at all |
| 16:44.21 | Knaledge | and/or there's now... LibWHATEVER4 |
| 16:44.26 | Knaledge | instead of LibWHATEVER3 |
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| 16:47.35 | Knaledge | perhaps an addon question then ;) |
| 16:47.53 | Knaledge | I use macro buttons to switch chatpanes using Prat |
| 16:47.59 | Knaledge | my tabs are hidden, hence the macros |
| 16:48.21 | Knaledge | Unfortunately, I've (as a result) lost the ability to "at a glance" see if I have a new whisper or message, etc. |
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| 16:48.51 | Knaledge | Anyone know of any addon that VERY SIMPLY notifies me of a new whisper? Perhaps even a way to get a macro button to flash on an event? |
| 16:49.06 | Knaledge | Ideally something FuBar capable |
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| 16:52.43 | dylanm | Whisper... Fu? |
| 16:53.58 | Knaledge | hah didnt get that far yet |
| 16:54.38 | Knaledge | and while I'm looking at it - anyone still maintain PoisonReminderFu? |
| 16:54.45 | Knaledge | or have a better alternative? |
| 16:54.57 | Knaledge | several bugs with it |
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| 17:08.40 | harl|WoW | the Clear() function used by Prat's Clear module doesn't seem to work for me anymore. when utilised, the chat frame only blinks shortly but doesn't get cleared. |
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| 17:15.25 | Brunera | i want the old autobar back |
| 17:15.35 | harl|WoW | me too |
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| 17:18.10 | Knaledge | Is there some way to use royalbar tga with eePanels as a full panel? |
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| 17:18.33 | Knaledge | Found it in SharedMediaAdditionalBackgrouds |
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| 17:26.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Brunera: so... get it? it's not like it's gone forever, the magical beauty of subversion is that every revision of everything stored within it is available forever. And hey, the kind folks at wowace even make all the archived zips available too. |
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| 17:43.05 | harl|WoW | arr.. now Clear works again, but no mouse wheel scrolling for ChatFrame1 and Fading is on though it should be off. |
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| 17:43.15 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53875 10KeyProfiler/core.lua: |
| 17:43.15 | CIA-7 | KeyProfiler: |
| 17:43.15 | CIA-7 | -- Key bindings are now saved permanently (forgot to uncomment a line) |
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| 17:51.18 | CIA-7 | 03pb_ee1 * r53876 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/ (Core.lua fonts/DIOGENES.ttf): SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: Adding Diogenes font. |
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| 18:02.04 | CIA-7 | 03pb_ee1 * r53877 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.toc: GridManaBars: Updating TOC. |
| 18:02.51 | vhaarr | MentalPower, norgs: http://www.pastey.net/76615 |
| 18:03.05 | vhaarr | get that after a scan is complete |
| 18:03.45 | MentalPower | vhaarr: I think thats fixed in the SVN version |
| 18:04.09 | vhaarr | MentalPower: it's not |
| 18:04.21 | vhaarr | well I have rev 2368 |
| 18:05.30 | MentalPower | can you add this as a JIRA issue? http://jira.norganna.org |
| 18:05.50 | MentalPower | you'll need to use your forum login |
| 18:07.07 | CIA-7 | 03pb_ee1 * r53878 10PricePer/ (PricePer.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 18:07.07 | CIA-7 | PricePer: |
| 18:07.07 | CIA-7 | - Now uses embeds.xml. |
| 18:07.07 | CIA-7 | - Removing useless libs folder. |
| 18:07.07 | CIA-7 | - Updating TOC. |
| 18:07.19 | vhaarr | MentalPower: I don't have a forum login |
| 18:07.34 | MentalPower | create one :) |
| 18:07.38 | vhaarr | I'd rather not |
| 18:08.00 | Knaledge | i'll do it |
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| 18:08.08 | Knaledge | you just want that pastey info MP? |
| 18:08.39 | MentalPower | yeah, and any additional info vhaarr has on repo steps |
| 18:08.54 | Knaledge | Looks like just finishing a scan although CNR for me |
| 18:09.08 | Knaledge | Auc-ScanData? |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-7 | 03pb_ee1 * r53879 10Meeuuuh/ (. Meeuuuh.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-7 | Meeuuuh: |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-7 | - Updating TOC. |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-7 | - Now uses embeds.xml. |
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| 18:14.55 | vhaarr | MentalPower, Knaledge: Just verified that I did indeed have the very last svn revision at the time, I'll give you a list of my norganna addons |
| 18:15.13 | Knaledge | yeah pastey that if you pls |
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| 18:15.18 | Knaledge | writing it up now |
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| 18:17.09 | Erica | What do you guys think is the best quest tracker to use? Mainly I want something simple with a tracker that can be moved around buttons I use in Bartender |
| 18:17.21 | vhaarr | Knaledge: |
| 18:17.24 | Knaledge | FuBar_QuestsFu |
| 18:17.24 | vhaarr | http://www.pastey.net/76617 |
| 18:17.47 | Erica | Thanks :) |
| 18:17.50 | Knaledge | looking at that vhaar |
| 18:17.58 | Knaledge | I think you may need to pull down beancounter |
| 18:18.07 | vhaarr | nonsense, it was never required before |
| 18:18.29 | vhaarr | I've been running with this config since the repo switch |
| 18:18.40 | Knaledge | I can't say for sure but I know I've had issues with the SVN revisions and not having all the addons, required or not |
| 18:19.10 | Knaledge | I'll post what you have here though - I can't reproduce it using a "stock" config, save Beancounter |
| 18:19.23 | vhaarr | It worked last night, it doesn't work now. |
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| 18:21.50 | aestil | bah. |
| 18:22.28 | Brunera | kael oneshotted |
| 18:22.47 | Brunera | im starting to like sunday raids :) |
| 18:23.55 | Knaledge | vhaar, the bug has been posted |
| 18:24.05 | Knaledge | Thanks for the info :) |
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| 18:29.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: ping |
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| 18:34.56 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, Grum ? |
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| 18:37.20 | aestil | this has been a sucky day so far. |
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| 19:02.38 | Knaledge | does anyone know how to stop firefox from trying to play an avi in quicktime if I click a link to an avi file on the web? |
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| 19:11.24 | aestil | oh noes, the compliation that i put up for people, because the requested it, has a 1 start on wowi!!! ? :( |
| 19:11.26 | aestil | lol |
| 19:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: i guess you have to commit ritual seppuku now |
| 19:11.55 | aestil | my typing sucks today. |
| 19:11.59 | aestil | no doubt. |
| 19:12.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Hm, anyone here know of an addon that lets you store lists of links (mainly recipe and item links) |
| 19:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | and i don't mean a lootlink style mod, more like a notepad style. |
| 19:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | or, perhaps, shopping list style, i guess |
| 19:13.31 | aestil | orb of soul eater is mine. |
| 19:13.47 | aestil | 1095+dmg and crusader card [80 more +dmg] |
| 19:14.01 | NightHawkTheSane | good deal |
| 19:14.21 | aestil | now, maybe i'll do kara and necklace will drop |
| 19:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | nah |
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| 19:16.08 | Pkekyo | morning all! what's wrong with the following macro? http://ace.pastey.net/76618 |
| 19:17.25 | Industrial | I just defeated a 56 elite, 3 adds and an alliance shammy |
| 19:17.30 | Industrial | ;o |
| 19:17.33 | Industrial | (at level 54) |
| 19:19.28 | Pkekyo | noone know how to fix the macro? |
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| 19:22.06 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: you cant cast spells in macros that contain scripts, afaik |
| 19:22.34 | NightHawkTheSane | sure you can? |
| 19:22.41 | Pkekyo | err? that can't be right |
| 19:22.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you just can't call CastBySpellName |
| 19:22.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: how does it not work? |
| 19:23.04 | Pkekyo | err, throws an error...gonna have a pastey for you in a sec |
| 19:23.31 | Pkekyo | http://ace.pastey.net/76620 <--- errormessage |
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| 19:24.06 | Shirik | you type the script wrong |
| 19:24.08 | Shirik | what did you type? |
| 19:24.39 | Pkekyo | http://ace.pastey.net/76618 |
| 19:24.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, looks like a misplaced paran |
| 19:24.44 | NightHawkTheSane | paren* |
| 19:25.00 | Shirik | change the comma to a semicolon |
| 19:25.06 | Pkekyo | can someone please fix it for me? been trying for ages :< |
| 19:25.08 | Pkekyo | what comma? |
| 19:25.13 | Shirik | I mean |
| 19:25.16 | Shirik | I take that back |
| 19:25.24 | Shirik | SendChatMessage("<<<Popping Shield Wall"), GetNumRaidMembers()>0 and "RAID" or "PARTY") |
| 19:25.28 | NightHawkTheSane | remove the paren in the middle of that sendchatmsg call |
| 19:25.30 | Shirik | drop the closing ) after Shield Wal |
| 19:27.13 | Pkekyo | thanks, fixed it up real good :) |
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| 19:29.15 | Pkekyo | been having that macro throw me errors for a month now >.< |
| 19:32.30 | Pkekyo | sweet, MS warrior in the raid _without_ BF nor Imp. Slam |
| 19:32.54 | NightHawkTheSane | how did you never notice the misplaced paren, though. ;) |
| 19:33.02 | kadrahil | sweet |
| 19:33.09 | kadrahil | 10 levels from my pally mount and plate |
| 19:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | grats. fucking paladins. |
| 19:33.22 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: I don't know jack shit about macros :) |
| 19:33.27 | Chompers | we've got one of those Pkekyo |
| 19:33.27 | kadrahil | NightHawkTheSane: :( |
| 19:33.36 | Chompers | i was told off for saying he should gtfo |
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| 19:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, thats really lua (and, really, general programming) syntax than macros. |
| 19:34.13 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: well, I don't know jack shit about any of it :) |
| 19:34.47 | Pkekyo | Chompers: just did the same to this one, got the answer "this is a fucking pvp char so stfu plix"....he's a fucking twat....and just happens to be my extremely clueless younger brother >.< |
| 19:35.06 | Chompers | ah well |
| 19:35.20 | Chompers | 1 out of 25 isn't too bad |
| 19:35.30 | Shirik | plix? |
| 19:35.32 | Shirik | wow |
| 19:35.36 | Shirik | I must be way behind the times |
| 19:35.43 | Shirik | I'm still trying to catch up to "plox" and where that came from |
| 19:35.48 | Shirik | now we're on "plix" ? |
| 19:35.52 | Chompers | pl0x is newer than plix |
| 19:35.58 | Shirik | is it? |
| 19:36.04 | Chompers | at least i thought it was.. |
| 19:36.07 | Shirik | I still try writing "please" |
| 19:36.12 | Shirik | because I'm not a 12 year old |
| 19:36.30 | Chompers | raading /1 chat in IF hurts my brain |
| 19:36.42 | Pkekyo | Shirik: he's a 16 year old fucktard with anger management issues :) |
| 19:36.42 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, trade is worse. |
| 19:36.47 | Chompers | *reading |
| 19:36.49 | Shirik | Pkekyo: haha |
| 19:36.54 | Shirik | Chompers: You could come to drenden |
| 19:37.00 | Shirik | there aren't any people, so I don't have to worry about our chat |
| 19:37.01 | Shirik | usually |
| 19:37.02 | Pkekyo | I actually left trade chan on all my chars, fucktards have been spamming [Dirge] for weeks now |
| 19:37.06 | Chompers | haha, awesome |
| 19:37.07 | Ellipsis | lol drenden lol |
| 19:37.30 | Shirik | like, this is the most recent chat: |
| 19:37.33 | Shirik | [#] 14:35:31 [1] <Zzip>: About the 5 oclock position in lower city for fruit |
| 19:37.33 | Shirik | [#] 14:36:21 [1] <Zzip>: be careful she has an army of ogres at her disposal |
| 19:37.38 | Shirik | that's what we get |
| 19:37.40 | Chompers | 'were'd" |
| 19:37.45 | Ellipsis | Shirik: you alliance or horde? |
| 19:37.49 | Chompers | as an example |
| 19:37.50 | Shirik | horde |
| 19:37.53 | Industrial | yay |
| 19:37.55 | Ellipsis | well that explains it then |
| 19:37.57 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 19:37.58 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6111 HP; 9705 Mana; 385 mana regen; 161 mp5; 79 +spell dmg; 1420 +heal; 5.66% dodge;[[ TBR: 655 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 08:41:03 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:38.02 | Ellipsis | you'd be listening to guild drama on the alliance side :P |
| 19:38.02 | Shirik | bah |
| 19:38.05 | Shirik | I need to log out buffed |
| 19:38.13 | kadrahil | buffed doesn't count! |
| 19:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'm envious of your general chat. |
| 19:38.56 | Shirik | Also, this is the kind of GMs that we get on drenden |
| 19:39.04 | Shirik | you would think that we have so few people that they would be able to tell us apart |
| 19:39.23 | Pkekyo | never thought my brother was THIS clueless when it comes to warriors....he always portray himself as the greatest warrior of all time...hms |
| 19:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | as a general rule, people who think they're good at something usually arn't |
| 19:39.58 | Toadkiller | Brunera: You can have the old AutoBar at http://code.google.com/p/autobar/ |
| 19:40.03 | Pkekyo | an arms warrior that does not see the use of BF in meelee-heavy raids /shrug |
| 19:40.26 | Shirik | The kind of GMs we get: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c7bbe0eaacfc456d4c91c04539d306d5.jpg |
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| 19:41.27 | Ellipsis | rofl Shirik |
| 19:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: hah. |
| 19:41.44 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: indeed :) |
| 19:42.10 | Ellipsis | I had a GM on drenden tell me I had to log out so he could rez me (I couldn't reach my body) and then when I logged back in he was gone, the ticket was closed, and I was still dead >_< |
| 19:42.23 | Shirik | rofl |
| 19:42.33 | Toadkiller | lol trick or treat! I thinku got tricked! |
| 19:43.16 | Ellipsis | the next gm told me he'd move my body to the ground so I could get to it, and when that didn't work, he made me stand perfectly still so he could rez me where I was |
| 19:43.19 | Ellipsis | x.x |
| 19:43.43 | NightHawkTheSane | im surprised they didn't just tell you to spirit rez |
| 19:43.49 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:43.49 | Shirik | me too |
| 19:44.04 | Shirik | I thought that was the whole point of the spirit healer |
| 19:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "We're sorry that we're idiots and let people gank you from seven thousand yards high, but you'll have to spirit rez" |
| 19:44.36 | JoshBork1 | Shirik: pwned |
| 19:44.39 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSane: it was at a graveyard without a spirit healer on an island in SMV |
| 19:44.44 | Ellipsis | I think they fixed that though |
| 19:44.53 | Ellipsis | also, I didn't get ganked |
| 19:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'm just bitching actually. :D |
| 19:45.12 | Ellipsis | I got disconnected in a perfectly safe spot, logged in dead and my body was about 200yd in the air |
| 19:45.15 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, there's plently of places where you can die normally and be fucked |
| 19:45.21 | RaydenUni | is there a way to start the downloader without starting wow? |
| 19:45.26 | Ellipsis | I only know that because I asked my bf if he could come rez me, and it took him forever to find it :P |
| 19:45.51 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: i just launch the downloader manually |
| 19:46.31 | RaydenUni | there we go |
| 19:46.34 | RaydenUni | gogogo 2mb! |
| 19:47.46 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 19:47.50 | RaydenUni | we aren't getting past 2mb |
| 19:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | can castsequence macros take conditionals on a per-spell basis? |
| 19:49.11 | JoshBork1 | don't think so, no |
| 19:49.16 | RaydenUni | what is the difference between Completed and Downloaded? |
| 19:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, that'd be handy. |
| 19:49.32 | RaydenUni | and why on earth is my connection list changing every second? |
| 19:49.53 | NightHawkTheSane | because you're probably creating and dropping connections relatively often |
| 19:50.21 | RaydenUni | every second? |
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| 19:50.58 | NightHawkTheSane | potentially, i suppose. *shrug* i don't know what your computer's doing :P |
| 19:51.01 | RaydenUni | i do'nt seem to be getting anywhere with my download |
| 19:51.07 | RaydenUni | it's never been a problem before |
| 19:51.28 | RaydenUni | odd |
| 19:51.34 | RaydenUni | my laptop is downloading it |
| 19:51.38 | RaydenUni | already at 16mb |
| 19:51.57 | CIA-7 | 03nogudnik * r53880 10Skillet/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:51.57 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 19:51.57 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.57 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.57 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.19 | RaydenUni | no reason i can't download on one computer and then copy it to the other right? |
| 19:54.04 | nogudnik | RaydenUni: right, I do this all the time with patches |
| 19:54.11 | Shirik | RaydenUni: Each download has a unique key which is linked to your computer's hard drive serial number and hostname |
| 19:54.16 | RaydenUni | odd |
| 19:54.20 | Shirik | You will be unable to copy this as it is a security precaution |
| 19:54.21 | RaydenUni | the laptop won't get past 23.5mb |
| 19:54.22 | RaydenUni | wtf? |
| 19:54.25 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:54.27 | Shirik | sorry |
| 19:54.28 | Shirik | yes it's ok |
| 19:54.58 | RaydenUni | my download rate drops to 0kb for no reason... |
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| 19:58.41 | MentalPower | vhaarr: I believe that r2369 resolves your issue, can you confirm? |
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| 19:59.53 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: Pong? |
| 20:00.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: bankstack only pushes from bags to bank, not the reverse, right? |
| 20:00.19 | Kemayo | It does the reverse, too. |
| 20:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. |
| 20:01.16 | NightHawkTheSane | may have tocheck itout |
| 20:01.18 | Kemayo | Technically it can stack from an arbitrary group of bags to another arbitrary group of bags, but it's only providing commands for bags and bank. |
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| 20:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | might be a good supplement until/if FreeRefills' retrieve from bank functionality gets fixed. |
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| 20:04.52 | Kemayo | I thought vhaarr had fixed that -- I saw a commit earlier. |
| 20:06.13 | NightHawkTheSane | oh? |
| 20:09.08 | Kemayo | I've never used it, so I can't really comment on whether it fixed it, but 53503 says it should fix bank stacking. |
| 20:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... I must have missed that commit note. |
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| 20:10.38 | kadrahil | man |
| 20:10.50 | kadrahil | i wonder if i should just keep the sindorei warblade until i go prot at 35 |
| 20:11.34 | kadrahil | no point in dropping 20g for a sword i'm only going to use for 5 levels |
| 20:11.42 | JoshBork1 | no shit sherlock :_P |
| 20:11.48 | kadrahil | however |
| 20:11.58 | kadrahil | i will get fiery put on it:D |
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| 20:14.48 | sdouble | is it possible to make cartographer add new waypoints to the end automatically? Or do you have to right click, move to end of queue every time? |
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| 20:16.07 | Lukian | sdouble, I was thinking that would be awesome functionality to add to _Routes :) |
| 20:16.23 | Lukian | Any spreedsheet wizs? :P Say I have a spreadsheet with a list of numbers in one column and next to it, the cost of the call, how do I combine the data so there's no duplicate numbers and the price is added up for the number? |
| 20:16.36 | sdouble | I just got Routes but haven't looked into it yet |
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| 20:19.04 | omega | is the output of runall.sh from Ace3 of any value to anyone? |
| 20:19.19 | nevcairiel | depends if it errored :P |
| 20:19.42 | Industrial | ding 55 |
| 20:20.18 | omega | I think some of the tests did |
| 20:20.24 | omega | but the output is kinda confusing |
| 20:20.43 | grzesieq | felguard raiding is fun! ^^ |
| 20:20.50 | omega | http://rafb.net/p/u1IhNj65.html |
| 20:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Lukian: if it were me, I'd export to csv, and write a perl/php/ruby/what-have-you script to process that and write back to csv. But, that's me >.> |
| 20:21.09 | Lukian | NightHawkTheSane, yeah thinking about doing it in php |
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| 20:21.36 | Lukian | I'd expect calc to have the functionality built in, but maybe I'm expecting too much from software |
| 20:22.01 | omega | nevcairiel: ^^ nopaste of the output |
| 20:22.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you probably COULD do it in excel, or something that has a similarly powerful function/macro script library |
| 20:22.35 | NightHawkTheSane | but i dislike doing that |
| 20:22.53 | nevcairiel | omega: thanks, looking at it |
| 20:22.58 | Fin | plus you have to be clinically insane |
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| 20:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: which is why i dislike it. |
| 20:23.09 | Pkekyo | will using [The Decapitator] (axe from prince) leave me disarmed? |
| 20:23.19 | grzesieq | nope |
| 20:23.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: .. try and see? |
| 20:23.23 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: strange, really... considering |
| 20:23.54 | sdouble | so Lukian, I take it Routes is your creation? |
| 20:23.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: are you implying that my name is somehow fallacious? |
| 20:24.01 | Lukian | sdouble, lol no |
| 20:24.18 | Fin | NightHawkTheSane: perish the very thought! |
| 20:24.20 | Lukian | it's the work of at least 2 skilled people people in this channel though ^^ |
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| 20:24.42 | Lukian | I just happened to have used it for the first time yesterday (in azeroth) and it was awesome |
| 20:25.09 | sdouble | I just fired it up and made a route with tin veins and optimized, looks pretty nice |
| 20:25.16 | Fin | besides, you can't blame crazy people for their rantings |
| 20:25.29 | sdouble | it would be something great to tie in with the waypoint system |
| 20:25.56 | Antiarc | Whoa. |
| 20:25.58 | Antiarc | Whoa whoa whoa. |
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| 20:26.02 | Fin | nelly! |
| 20:26.04 | Antiarc | Interrupts are on diminishing returns now?! |
| 20:26.10 | Antiarc | That's....freaking stupid. |
| 20:26.15 | Antiarc | That's ridiculously stupid. |
| 20:26.15 | NightHawkTheSane | what?! |
| 20:26.17 | Antiarc | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/november/interrupt-diminishing.jpg |
| 20:26.21 | NightHawkTheSane | how does ethat even work? |
| 20:26.39 | Antiarc | Second interrupt is half duration, third is a quarter, fourth is no interrupt effect. |
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| 20:27.08 | Antiarc | Which is retarded, since interrupts are reactive, not proactive >_< |
| 20:27.34 | omega | Antiarc: if only it would then also halve the cooldown each time, it would be something :p |
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| 20:28.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: bleh, that IS retarded. |
| 20:28.38 | Antiarc | It's not just retarded...it makes rogues basically worthless in 5v5 now :/ |
| 20:28.56 | Antiarc | Our place to shine in 5v5 was locking down a healer hardcore. And that's impossible now. |
| 20:29.22 | Diao | interrupt effects should only work on casters |
| 20:29.26 | Diao | i mean DR |
| 20:29.31 | Diao | ... |
| 20:29.36 | Diao | wow i am totally out of it |
| 20:29.42 | Diao | the DR should only apply to healers* |
| 20:29.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: get a cup of coffee .:) |
| 20:29.59 | Diao | i just ate lunch :( |
| 20:29.59 | Antiarc | Not even that. Healers can feint, and the good ones do. |
| 20:30.18 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:30.22 | Diao | but they still get locked down |
| 20:30.35 | Diao | when i'm playing my friend's pally i can feint the CS on a mage/lock team |
| 20:30.38 | Antiarc | DR needs to only apply to proactive abilities |
| 20:30.39 | Diao | but then i'll get caught by the spell lock |
| 20:30.54 | Antiarc | DR applying to reactive effects is effing retarded. |
| 20:30.54 | Diao | and the silence kills me |
| 20:31.03 | Diao | well i suppose |
| 20:31.06 | Antiarc | Spell lock is just stupid, since it's AI-driven |
| 20:31.06 | Diao | if they just made it apply to silences |
| 20:31.09 | Diao | that's fine |
| 20:31.16 | Diao | it's not AI o_O |
| 20:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, it seems like the better solution would have been to just reduce the silence duration on interrupt abilities for pvp combat only |
| 20:31.21 | Diao | the good locks manually cast it |
| 20:31.21 | Antiarc | It's pretty asstarded that a felhunter can eat Nature's Swiftness off during a NS->heal macro. |
| 20:31.33 | Diao | spell lock and eat magic is different :( |
| 20:31.44 | Antiarc | Right, right. I'm out of it too :P |
| 20:31.53 | Diao | but yeah |
| 20:31.58 | Diao | i generally feint the CS |
| 20:32.01 | Diao | and get owned by the spell lock |
| 20:32.18 | Antiarc | The solution is to make hearthstones usable in the arena so paladins can feint with them :P |
| 20:32.32 | Diao | rofl |
| 20:33.01 | Diao | they should just make it so that |
| 20:33.06 | Diao | silences are on DR but not interrupts |
| 20:33.13 | NightHawkTheSane | how would that even work? :P hearth is nature :P |
| 20:33.21 | Diao | lol |
| 20:33.27 | Diao | some people are dumb enough to fall for it :( |
| 20:33.36 | Diao | the moment you start casting they try to interrupt |
| 20:33.37 | cncfanatics | not above 1800 rating tbh |
| 20:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, probably true |
| 20:33.40 | Diao | without checking what it is |
| 20:33.41 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53881 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: another typo |
| 20:33.46 | Diao | even in the 1800-1900s |
| 20:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm probably one of the ones dumb enough to, but that's why I don't pvp |
| 20:34.13 | nevcairiel | omega: what i noticed, i suppose you run vanilla lua and not WoWLua? |
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| 20:35.57 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull Drinking |
| 20:35.57 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Drinking is not the character you are looking for! |
| 20:36.39 | omega | nevcairiel: apt-get install lua5.1, so I would assume teh same |
| 20:37.12 | nevcairiel | omega: that explains like 90% of your errors ;) |
| 20:37.15 | omega | :p |
| 20:37.41 | omega | I only need that for running the tests, rite? |
| 20:38.04 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:39.23 | Lukian | kfc leftovers for breakfast ftw |
| 20:40.57 | kenlyric | it's a shame about there being no other chicken places within 100 miles. |
| 20:41.13 | kenlyric | I can't imagine any other reason to subject yourself to that. |
| 20:42.02 | Lukian | it's too early for anything to be open and I like it :D |
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| 20:44.55 | CIA-7 | 03alar * r53882 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: !AlarLib Modifications to improve automatic help generation |
| 20:45.12 | |Stan| | automatic help generation |
| 20:45.14 | |Stan| | ooookay |
| 20:45.32 | Saroz | Funkeh`, those hyjal timers need some love :) kaz and az ones atleast |
| 20:45.49 | Funkeh` | I don't time them |
| 20:45.58 | Funkeh` | talk to Mecdermot |
| 20:46.20 | Saroz | run bigwigs_debugger next run |
| 20:46.26 | Saroz | :p |
| 20:47.04 | Funkeh` | cba with the hastle tbh, its hes module |
| 20:47.16 | Saroz | meh, do I really have to do everything myself |
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| 20:48.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what they say.. |
| 20:49.24 | harl|WoW | while configuring PitBull in group configuration mode, why does enabling the "Hide non-power" and/or "Hide non-mana" check box disable the "Height" slider ? |
| 20:49.31 | harl|WoW | group=party |
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| 20:59.01 | RaydenUni | i think i would rather play wow than write my game script |
| 21:03.46 | Pkekyo | anyone good with macros? |
| 21:03.53 | RaydenUni | i can make them |
| 21:04.00 | RaydenUni | :P |
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| 21:06.56 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: how should I make a macro that equips [The Decapitator], then pops the usefunction on it and then equips [King's Defender] ? |
| 21:08.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: given that items with use abilties trigger a 30s cooldown on those abilities when equipped.. goodluck with taht |
| 21:08.25 | omega | is AceGUI-3.0 only for configuration, or is it general purose? |
| 21:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: but, if you still want to do it, check out macro conditionals on wowwiki |
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| 21:08.50 | Lukian | couldn't you use a castsequence with a reset also? |
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| 21:09.31 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: not even possible with several presses of the button? |
| 21:09.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, obviously with several button presses :P |
| 21:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | but it just wont be really spammable |
| 21:10.42 | Pkekyo | sure, I'm just going to use it for long-range pulling [tanking], so don't need it all to happen within one millisecond |
| 21:11.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, like i said, look at macro conditionals on wowwiki |
| 21:11.39 | Pkekyo | if I only understood any of it :) |
| 21:11.43 | RaydenUni | you would have to have the item already equipped |
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| 21:11.51 | RaydenUni | equipping an item triggers it's cooldown |
| 21:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ... there's a lot of good information, examples, and tutorials on wowwiki |
| 21:11.55 | NightHawkTheSane | read it. |
| 21:12.01 | RaydenUni | assuming it is already equipped, you can use it and then switch out |
| 21:12.23 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: how would you do the macro? (ignoring the 30 sec cooldown trigger) |
| 21:12.37 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, seriously, read wowwiki. it's good, it has lots of info. |
| 21:12.48 | Pkekyo | I would, but doing gruul atm :p |
| 21:12.55 | RaydenUni | something like that |
| 21:12.57 | RaydenUni | dude |
| 21:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | so, wait? :P |
| 21:13.01 | RaydenUni | do'nt change macros during a raid |
| 21:13.28 | Pkekyo | why not? |
| 21:13.33 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, there's nothing wrong with changing macros during a raid, if you know what you're doing. but i wouldn't try making/testing a new macro during one. |
| 21:13.36 | RaydenUni | what if it does something unexpected? |
| 21:13.58 | Pkekyo | I doubt making a equip/use/equip macro would do too much harm? |
| 21:14.04 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, it just wastes people's time. |
| 21:14.06 | RaydenUni | this is your weapon right? |
| 21:14.14 | RaydenUni | what if it fails to swap your normal weapon in? |
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| 21:14.19 | RaydenUni | then you have to manually equip it |
| 21:14.21 | RaydenUni | that wastes time |
| 21:14.26 | RaydenUni | and a BIG problem if you are the tank |
| 21:14.33 | Pkekyo | meh, shield slam ftw |
| 21:14.34 | Pkekyo | :p |
| 21:14.36 | Xelo | ./nick Xelopheris |
| 21:14.38 | Pkekyo | see your point though |
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| 21:17.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. finish off thick hide, or pick up survival of the fittest... |
| 21:18.05 | Saroz | Funkeh`, you think the Flash should trigger on RoF on Az? |
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| 21:18.25 | Funkeh` | It triggers on doom so no |
| 21:18.38 | Saroz | hate that RoF :| |
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| 21:26.15 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.16 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.16 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.23 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53883 10BigWigs/ (SC/Vashj.lua TheEye/Kaelthas.lua): BigWigs: koKR update |
| 21:26.27 | Pkekyo | this one worsk |
| 21:26.29 | Pkekyo | works* |
| 21:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Is the armor bonus from thick hide additive or multiplicative with the bear form armor bonus? |
| 21:26.50 | Pkekyo | however, is there a way to get it to NOT equip KD if The Decapitator has not been used? |
| 21:27.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: no |
| 21:27.28 | Pkekyo | poopshoots |
| 21:27.33 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo you can't equip and then use |
| 21:27.36 | RaydenUni | you have a 30 second cooldown |
| 21:27.46 | Pkekyo | rayden I know, it does not have to happen within one second |
| 21:27.52 | Pkekyo | nor in one single press of the macro |
| 21:27.55 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: this has been explained several times already. :P |
| 21:28.09 | RaydenUni | you should just find a way to pull that doesn't involve a cooldown |
| 21:28.12 | Pkekyo | I'm just trying to make it so I don't have to fuck about in my bags etc (they're a fucking mess btw) every time I'm going to pull |
| 21:28.15 | RaydenUni | what is the item you are using anyways? |
| 21:28.21 | Pkekyo | The Decapitator |
| 21:28.33 | Pkekyo | axe that drops from prince...has a throw function, 40yards |
| 21:28.37 | RaydenUni | i had a macro for swapping my main and offhands on my rogue |
| 21:28.37 | Diao | organize your bags |
| 21:28.38 | Diao | :D |
| 21:28.39 | Pkekyo | gives my pull an extra 10 yards |
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| 21:28.44 | RaydenUni | it ended up being too much work to use often |
| 21:28.53 | RaydenUni | a more complicated macro might have worked though |
| 21:29.01 | Pkekyo | Diao: not possible :) using fucking ArkInv |
| 21:29.17 | Diao | no clue what that does |
| 21:29.18 | Diao | lol |
| 21:29.40 | Pkekyo | well, it heaps all my armor/weapons together, all my profession mats together, all my consumables together etc |
| 21:29.50 | Diao | i see |
| 21:30.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: sorted bag mod, basically |
| 21:31.01 | RaydenUni | arkinv is awesome |
| 21:31.14 | Pkekyo | well, it has it's uses |
| 21:31.14 | RaydenUni | i hopped on my laptop which didn't have it |
| 21:31.20 | RaydenUni | i didn't bother using my bags at all that session |
| 21:31.31 | Poul|Raider | when i have ## RequiredDeps: addon1 in my toc. would it not load addon1 before loading my addon? |
| 21:31.38 | Tuller | combuctor! :) |
| 21:31.41 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: you know that black backdrop you get on your 'unused' slots? THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE TRANSPARENT! :p |
| 21:31.49 | Diao | no bag mods! |
| 21:31.54 | RaydenUni | the what? |
| 21:32.02 | Pkekyo | got transparent frames? |
| 21:32.06 | RaydenUni | do you make everything transparent? |
| 21:32.08 | RaydenUni | i didn't do that |
| 21:32.19 | Nargiddley | Poul|Raider, its ## Dependencies: |
| 21:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: combuctor is indeed neat, the weird scaling freaks me the hell out, though |
| 21:32.39 | Tuller | tiny slots? |
| 21:32.49 | Tuller | since i fixed the super huge slots :P |
| 21:32.55 | Poul|Raider | Nargiddley, what is ## RequiredDeps then doing? |
| 21:32.55 | NightHawkTheSane | well, on one tab i've got a lot of stuff, and everythings tiny, and on another i've got 1-2 items and it was super-huge |
| 21:33.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I havn't checked recently if you fixed any of that, thoough :) |
| 21:33.45 | Pkekyo | tanking gruul atm, gimme a sec raiden |
| 21:33.53 | Nargiddley | Poul|Raider, nm its an alias for the same thing |
| 21:34.09 | Nargiddley | so yeah it should load addon1 first |
| 21:34.32 | RaydenUni | good grief |
| 21:34.42 | RaydenUni | the auctioneeradvanced zip has about 12 folders |
| 21:34.44 | Poul|Raider | Nargiddley, oki. I am just having problem with my addon saying addon1.something is nil when calling it, but it works fine if i call it from /script ingame. |
| 21:36.23 | Poul|Raider | Interface\AddOns\3P_Raider\RaidAttendance.lua:946: attempt to call field 'GetOrCreatePackage' (a nil value) etc, but i can call it from ingame without problem. |
| 21:36.56 | RaydenUni | i've never used auctioneer before and i go to the website and they have about 6 different choices of suites |
| 21:37.00 | RaydenUni | what should i get? |
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| 21:38.02 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: I want to make everything transparent, but for some reason, there's NO way to do that to frames that are the background for the unused bagslots, for some reason |
| 21:38.15 | RaydenUni | i haven't messed with it |
| 21:39.11 | Poul|Raider | ohh well, i am useing Raider_Frame:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED"); - are there an event for when all addons are loaded instead? |
| 21:39.31 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: messed with auctioneer or arkinv? |
| 21:40.49 | Pkekyo | yay, 12k crushing :) |
| 21:41.13 | RaydenUni | messed with the transparency in arkinv |
| 21:41.17 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 21:41.19 | Pkekyo | well I have |
| 21:41.20 | RaydenUni | i've never used auctioneer but i'd like to try it |
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| 21:41.27 | RaydenUni | way too many suite choices |
| 21:41.29 | Diao | wait |
| 21:41.30 | RaydenUni | i don't know what to get |
| 21:41.31 | Diao | crushing blow |
| 21:41.33 | Diao | on gruul? |
| 21:41.51 | Pkekyo | and that there will always be some black piece of shit poop backdrop on part of the inv pisses me off |
| 21:41.54 | Pkekyo | Diao: correctemundo |
| 21:41.57 | Diao | o_O |
| 21:42.01 | Diao | i've never been crushed while tanking him |
| 21:42.05 | Pkekyo | gear level? |
| 21:42.18 | Diao | kara |
| 21:42.24 | Pkekyo | well, I just did lols |
| 21:42.51 | Pkekyo | I've still got some blues and greens though |
| 21:43.13 | Pkekyo | ~seen ThraeBot |
| 21:43.51 | purl | thraebot is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 247 messages. Is idling for 1h 7m 54s, last said: 'NightHawkTheSane: Drinking is not the character you are looking for!'. |
| 21:43.51 | Pkekyo | thraebot back yet? |
| 21:43.51 | Diao | just use xinhuan's |
| 21:43.51 | Pkekyo | huh? |
| 21:44.07 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 21:44.11 | Pkekyo | might have tankinggear on |
| 21:44.13 | Diao | Xinhuan has a armorybot too :P |
| 21:44.15 | Pkekyo | prolly not though |
| 21:44.16 | NightHawkTheSane | he hasn't left in quite a long time |
| 21:44.17 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (34/24/3). 10357 HP; 7935 Armour; 1570 AP; 242.300 Melee DPS; 23.66% melee crit; 71 melee hit; 6.02% dodge; 5.00% block; 73 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 659 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 12:48:36 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:44.20 | Pkekyo | Diao: commands for it? |
| 21:44.25 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: was gone the last time I was here |
| 21:44.34 | Pkekyo | no, that's pvp gear or something |
| 21:44.49 | Diao | !armory Diaox |
| 21:44.54 | Diao | i think that's for our server though |
| 21:45.02 | Pkekyo | your server only? |
| 21:45.03 | Diao | or he might have it off on wowace now :( |
| 21:45.12 | Diao | it worked the other day |
| 21:45.29 | Pkekyo | ah, yeah, I've seen him turning various bot(functions) on and off from time to time |
| 21:45.39 | Pkekyo | !points 1988 |
| 21:45.40 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 21:45.52 | Pkekyo | !points 1000 |
| 21:45.53 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 21:46.15 | Pkekyo | I like xin's bot tbh :) |
| 21:47.32 | Diao | yea |
| 21:48.09 | Pkekyo | not bloated with useless info or randomass talk to appear smart |
| 21:48.21 | NightHawkTheSane | I like bots that talk down to people. |
| 21:49.38 | Nefarion | ~seen Industrial |
| 21:49.40 | purl | industrial is currently on #wowi-lounge (6d 3h 27m 29s) #wowace (6d 3h 27m 29s). Has said a total of 204 messages. Is idling for 1h 28m 8s, last said: 'Fin: ;)'. |
| 21:49.55 | Industrial | WHAT |
| 21:49.59 | Lukian | !point 1511 |
| 21:50.02 | Nefarion | what's the font on your UI? |
| 21:50.03 | Lukian | !points 1511 |
| 21:50.03 | Xinhuan | 1511 arena points require 0(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 21:50.09 | Lukian | lol |
| 21:50.10 | Nefarion | that isn't default is it? |
| 21:50.12 | Nefarion | looks a lot cleaner |
| 21:50.15 | Industrial | Nefarion: I mean hi whats up |
| 21:50.18 | Lukian | !points 1510 |
| 21:50.19 | Xinhuan | 1510 arena points require 3354(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 21:50.35 | Nefarion | umm... |
| 21:51.06 | Diao | lol 3354 5s |
| 21:51.50 | Nefarion | Industral, what's the font you use on your UI? |
| 21:51.59 | Nefarion | gah, Industrial* |
| 21:52.33 | *** join/#wowace Knaledge (n=Knaledge@97.4.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 21:53.20 | Knaledge | tinypad replacement? anyone? |
| 21:53.38 | Nefarion | is that a notepad? |
| 21:53.42 | Nefarion | try Omnibus |
| 21:53.53 | Knaledge | ok sec |
| 21:54.09 | Lukian | windowed mode /linux and your favourite notepad :p |
| 21:54.25 | Knaledge | hahahahaahhhaah |
| 21:54.28 | Knaledge | but seriously. |
| 21:54.36 | Nefarion | or you can cough up a timecard code and i'll get to work starting mine.. |
| 21:54.39 | Lukian | I am being serious :) |
| 21:54.39 | Nefarion | lol |
| 21:54.46 | Fin | what time does the PvP weekend end? |
| 21:54.51 | Diao | midnight tues |
| 21:54.54 | Lukian | Nefarion, ooo, you'll code for gamecards? |
| 21:54.56 | Fin | really? |
| 21:54.59 | Fin | huh |
| 21:55.00 | Nefarion | totally lol |
| 21:55.00 | Fin | thanks |
| 21:55.09 | Lukian | Nefarion, I'll keep that in mind |
| 21:55.20 | Nefarion | i'm planning a post-it-note addon by the way |
| 21:55.33 | Lukian | omg that would be sexy |
| 21:55.38 | Lukian | widget-style |
| 21:55.46 | Lukian | use VisualThemes effects |
| 21:55.47 | Nefarion | it'll have a core notepad of course but you'll be able to pull any note off the main book and stick it to the UI frames |
| 21:55.58 | Nefarion | stickiness ftw |
| 21:56.00 | Knaledge | As long as it has a FuBar plugin |
| 21:56.06 | Nefarion | it will |
| 21:56.17 | Nefarion | but i can't pay the game atm.. |
| 21:56.19 | Knaledge | and maybe even somethinglike FuBar_QuestsFu |
| 21:56.28 | Nefarion | what do you mean Kna? |
| 21:56.35 | Knaledge | where you mouseover it or click on it in fubar and you can manipulate the "tooltip" |
| 21:56.44 | Knaledge | pageflips, in this case |
| 21:56.47 | Knaledge | or direct edit |
| 21:56.54 | Nefarion | i'll see |
| 21:57.02 | Nefarion | i want the base addon in place first |
| 21:57.13 | Knaledge | OmniBus is outdated |
| 21:57.16 | Knaledge | would that matter? |
| 21:57.27 | Knaledge | I can't get TinyPad to load up without errors |
| 21:57.27 | Nefarion | notepad that looks like real post-it notes, a button (that looks like a page curl) to pull them off, the ability to stick them anywhere, etc |
| 21:57.31 | Lukian | Knaledge, nope |
| 21:57.47 | Knaledge | scale the notes too nefarion |
| 21:57.52 | Nefarion | of course |
| 21:57.58 | Knaledge | and transparecny |
| 21:58.08 | Fin | haha! nice one |
| 21:58.15 | Nefarion | all the sticky notes can be independently colored and scaled, and stuck or re-stuck anywhere |
| 21:58.24 | Knaledge | sounds alright |
| 21:58.24 | Fin | I'd settle for decent editing support like undo, decent highlighting, etc. |
| 21:58.29 | Knaledge | look forward to trying it out |
| 21:58.36 | Nefarion | perhaps the ability to set color-groups for different categories |
| 21:58.54 | Knaledge | I wouldn't use the sticky thing but I would def use the notepad part |
| 21:59.06 | Knaledge | I know of a few people that would like the sticky thing though |
| 21:59.15 | Nefarion | nice for reminders and such |
| 21:59.16 | Pkekyo | meh, gruul's being a bitch >.< |
| 21:59.47 | Knaledge | So Omnibus |
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| 21:59.54 | Knaledge | any issues? |
| 22:00.12 | Nefarion | it worked when i used it...months and months ag |
| 22:00.13 | Nefarion | o |
| 22:00.40 | Knaledge | so currently there's no up to date notepad addon? |
| 22:01.04 | Knaledge | to me that is surprising but I suppose it either indicates there isn't a demand |
| 22:01.13 | Knaledge | or there is complacency with what is available |
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| 22:01.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.30 | Nefarion | they're very nice to have but for something like that people seem to be fine settling with external notepads |
| 22:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Omnibus still works fine |
| 22:03.26 | NightHawkTheSane | And I havn't heard of any issues with TinyPad, either, but *shrug* |
| 22:03.48 | Knaledge | Well I was hoping to use TinyPad on my bank but the last one is 1.52 which is from like |
| 22:03.50 | Knaledge | May |
| 22:03.52 | Knaledge | of 2006 |
| 22:04.23 | Knaledge | *December |
| 22:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | so? that doesn't mean it doesn't work |
| 22:04.55 | Knaledge | true |
| 22:04.59 | Knaledge | what does this mean/ |
| 22:05.01 | Knaledge | Error: Original call failed while running hooks: QueryAuctionItems |
| 22:05.03 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.15 | Knaledge | I get that every time I hit the search button in the AH |
| 22:08.10 | Nefarion | where did you download it? |
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| 22:10.44 | Kuja^ | hmm is there somthing like mendwatch but in working? :) |
| 22:10.58 | Nefarion | what does mendwatch do? |
| 22:12.34 | WobWork | tracks Prayer of Mending |
| 22:12.39 | WobWork | I expect =) |
| 22:12.51 | TrashCat | PoM tracker |
| 22:12.51 | WobWork | I just use Grid |
| 22:13.01 | WobWork | to highlight who has a pom on them |
| 22:13.06 | WobWork | it doesn't really help in raids though |
| 22:13.26 | WobWork | since I'm not sure if you can track to -whom- the pom originated from |
| 22:13.41 | WobWork | and I often lose sight of the pom when it hits a pet |
| 22:13.57 | Kuja^ | grid doen't work for me in raid :( ill get just an empty frame |
| 22:14.07 | WobWork | eh? That's odd |
| 22:14.11 | TrashCat | I use http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/6270/ |
| 22:14.13 | kenlyric | grid doesn't tell you where *your* pom is |
| 22:14.17 | kenlyric | and if it's still alive |
| 22:14.22 | WobWork | kenlyric: yeah, that's what I said |
| 22:14.23 | Knaledge | HEy TrashCat |
| 22:14.23 | Kuja^ | TrashCat: thanks |
| 22:14.29 | Knaledge | Are you the same guy on Maxconsole? |
| 22:14.40 | TrashCat | i prefer it to mendwatch |
| 22:14.41 | Nefarion | can anyone confirm this from the PTR? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766078545&sid=1 i've never seen that work live.. |
| 22:14.54 | kenlyric | grid needs pets, amirite? |
| 22:15.18 | silentium | there is a Grid version with pets support somewhere in branches |
| 22:15.32 | WobWork | Nefarion: summarise it for me? |
| 22:15.58 | Nefarion | well it may be a hoax but it shows that the Eye of Kilrogg (warlock spell) can melee enemies on the PTR |
| 22:17.01 | Nefarion | "does 2.2.3= 2.3?" believe it or not he's not a nelf. |
| 22:17.39 | kenlyric | belf is the new nelf |
| 22:17.51 | Nefarion | totally |
| 22:19.18 | WobWork | unfortuately |
| 22:20.45 | Pkekyo | fucksake, gruul keeps crushing me during shield block cooldowns, any ideas what to do? |
| 22:21.08 | Nefarion | run him over with a pickup |
| 22:21.29 | silentium | tell melee not to attack from the front |
| 22:21.53 | Pkekyo | silentium: I tried... they just tell me to shut up and turn him around >.< |
| 22:22.13 | |Stan| | Pkekyo: are you the MT? |
| 22:22.47 | silentium | turn a boss while melee stand all around it? ouch... |
| 22:23.02 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: correctemundo |
| 22:23.32 | Nefarion | by the way, it's all over the 'lock forums. it may be real (eye of kil change). |
| 22:23.35 | Pkekyo | silentium: indeed |
| 22:24.09 | Pkekyo | I'm the guild main tank, and just got the question by raid leader "are you prot?" MEH |
| 22:24.30 | kenlyric | maybe you suck and he was wondering? |
| 22:24.37 | |Stan| | Pkekyo: LOL |
| 22:24.50 | Pkekyo | me not being prot can hardly be the reason for people nuking eachother to death with shatter |
| 22:25.00 | |Stan| | Pkekyo: well you are the MT, tell the melees to shut the fuck up and attack from behind |
| 22:25.25 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: that's what I did when I got the "stfu and turn him around" >.< |
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| 22:26.15 | Pkekyo | 7.5k overheals = win |
| 22:26.19 | |Stan| | Pkekyo: let them get aggro |
| 22:26.38 | Knaledge | here what we did |
| 22:26.41 | Knaledge | when shatter inc |
| 22:26.46 | Knaledge | every sits down (literally) |
| 22:26.56 | Knaledge | if you're all already spread out, noone gets knockback |
| 22:26.57 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: that's what I do on trash, doesn't seem to get through their thick skulls though |
| 22:27.07 | Knaledge | and noones gets inc dmg from shatter |
| 22:27.13 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: these people are clustering like motherfuckers |
| 22:27.25 | Knaledge | well thats part of the problem |
| 22:27.31 | Knaledge | rogues can CoS |
| 22:27.35 | Knaledge | paladins DS |
| 22:27.40 | Knaledge | all that stuff |
| 22:27.47 | Knaledge | and everyone else just literally sits down |
| 22:27.56 | Knaledge | no knockback, no grouping issues |
| 22:27.59 | Knaledge | easy |
| 22:28.20 | WobWork | hm |
| 22:28.24 | WobWork | I never knew that |
| 22:28.34 | WobWork | that's kinda cool |
| 22:28.37 | Knaledge | I havent done gruul in like a month but |
| 22:28.43 | Knaledge | sitting still negated knockback |
| 22:28.51 | WobWork | PS, If you're MT, and the melee aren't moving, get them killed faster |
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| 22:29.10 | WobWork | Then stand in rockfall, and use demonic runes to kill yourself with no durability |
| 22:29.13 | WobWork | over and over |
| 22:29.16 | WobWork | until they get the idea |
| 22:29.18 | silentium | paladin DS doesnt prevent them from taking or dealing shatter damage |
| 22:29.27 | silentium | it only removes the slow effect |
| 22:29.31 | WobWork | clos just gives you the opportunity to get out of the way |
| 22:29.41 | WobWork | which is needed for melee |
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| 22:30.21 | Pkekyo | actually, what is needed for meelee is getting some goddamn sense knocked through their thick skulls |
| 22:30.31 | Knaledge | silentium: notice how I also mentioned rogue CoS? seemed obvious |
| 22:30.38 | WobWork | Pkekyo: are we talking normal melee, or this example? =P |
| 22:31.00 | WobWork | cause one answer will get you a cup of stfu =) The other will get agreeance |
| 22:31.02 | Pkekyo | WobWork: well, I guess it goes for meelee in general, most are 'zomg damagemetersraec!!!!!!!!1111oneone" |
| 22:31.39 | WobWork | cause honestly? On gruul? If you don't watch your aggro as melee, you eat hateful strikes |
| 22:31.47 | WobWork | And that puts a crimp in -anyone's- day |
| 22:32.13 | WobWork | Pkekyo: are you speaking as a melee here? |
| 22:32.19 | WobWork | Or as a ranged? |
| 22:32.25 | Pkekyo | WobWork: I'm a warrior |
| 22:32.32 | WobWork | well, tank more then =P |
| 22:32.38 | WobWork | Or let them get killed |
| 22:32.41 | Pkekyo | I'm tanking into oblivion |
| 22:33.07 | WobWork | who's secondary? |
| 22:33.18 | Pkekyo | problem is, meeleers are getting themselves killed over doing stupid shit and hence screwing the raid over |
| 22:33.20 | Pkekyo | secondary? |
| 22:33.26 | WobWork | who's eating the hatefuls? |
| 22:33.31 | Pkekyo | protadin |
| 22:33.38 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53884 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Proximity: tweak |
| 22:33.39 | WobWork | hm |
| 22:33.46 | Pkekyo | caster/ranged DPS below me, meelee dps below him |
| 22:33.59 | Pkekyo | ~seen elkano |
| 22:34.02 | purl | elkano <i=86603dd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-ef0e01040f74912a> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 14h 11m 55s ago, saying: 'well, depends on the context, yes ^'. |
| 22:34.02 | WobWork | well basically you're going to have to refuse to pull until melee until they start to listen |
| 22:34.22 | Pkekyo | WobWork: I think I'm just going to start turning gruul's face TO them :) |
| 22:34.26 | WobWork | hehe |
| 22:34.28 | WobWork | yep |
| 22:34.30 | WobWork | do that |
| 22:34.44 | WobWork | or manouvre them so that unless they're behind, they're in rockfall |
| 22:35.06 | Knaledge | but that gos anywhere though |
| 22:35.15 | Knaledge | the only time we moved gruul was if tank was in falling rocks |
| 22:35.18 | WobWork | there's usually one or two on gruul |
| 22:35.31 | Knaledge | and moved I mean, pivot |
| 22:36.01 | WobWork | Pkekyo: All I can offer is use WWS or something |
| 22:36.05 | Knaledge | also if your ranged is above melee on threat |
| 22:36.07 | Knaledge | thats another issue |
| 22:36.08 | WobWork | and -dkp any melee with parry |
| 22:36.15 | Pkekyo | meh, downtime between wipes are like 20min |
| 22:36.21 | WobWork | Knaledge: not too much, though |
| 22:36.22 | Pkekyo | WobWork: we don't use DKP |
| 22:36.27 | WobWork | since hateful strikes only hit melee |
| 22:36.30 | Pkekyo | I'm pulling again, talk to you in 5 min |
| 22:36.34 | WobWork | good luck |
| 22:38.22 | WobWork | "Yesterday, a bunch of scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, USA announced that they had successfully engineered a group of 500 genetically enhanced super mice that are super healthy, extremely aggressive, hyper active, higher in metabolism, have much longer lifespan compared to normal wild mice, can run pretty much non stop for 6 hours and can eat twice more than normal wild mice but only have half the weight |
| 22:38.26 | WobWork | uhoh |
| 22:38.28 | WobWork | this can't be good =P |
| 22:38.41 | WobWork | hyperaggressive unstoppable mice? |
| 22:38.52 | Knaledge | zombie mice |
| 22:38.56 | Knaledge | but zombie like |
| 22:38.59 | Knaledge | 28 days zombie |
| 22:39.40 | WobWork | http://www.xuecast.com/?p=192 |
| 22:39.44 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53885 10BigWigs/ (SC/Vashj.lua TheEye/BigWigs_TheEye.toc): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 22:40.50 | Pkekyo | back, 11k crush between cooldown again :) |
| 22:41.18 | Nefarion | dude, chill. they'll enjoy that for like 6 months and then some idiot will come along and nerf them in favor of their own species. then we'll be nice and OP. |
| 22:41.19 | Knaledge | @Nefarian: also one thing I thought of about that addon |
| 22:41.39 | Knaledge | cross character syncing |
| 22:41.40 | Nefarion | yes? |
| 22:41.46 | Knaledge | like how AuldLAngSyne does it |
| 22:42.01 | Nefarion | i figured you'd be able to make global and local notes |
| 22:42.04 | Knaledge | so if I add a note on one character, I can "import it" or sync it on another |
| 22:42.14 | Knaledge | and possibly only sync those in certain categories |
| 22:42.27 | Knaledge | (categories could be independantly flagged as "sync" or not) |
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| 22:42.52 | Nefarion | i can't see having it done *any* time soon. i haven't even been on in over 3 weeks now, and i can't realistically get on for a bit. |
| 22:43.31 | Nefarion | bank's fucked and even if i find the cash for a game card ($30 i really *dont* have), the car broke down so i can't make it to the nearest best buy. |
| 22:44.57 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ....MS warrior coming to a raid WITHOUT Blood Frenzy, and that REFUSES to put thunderclap and demo shout on the goddamn boss...lovely! |
| 22:45.17 | Knaledge | Pkekyo: sounds like you need to go LFG |
| 22:45.20 | Knaledge | looking for guild |
| 22:45.42 | Knaledge | Gruul is like... almost a year old |
| 22:45.50 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: no, I've just got to get my brother (the twat in question) kicked from the guild |
| 22:45.51 | Knaledge | if they cant handle gruul |
| 22:46.03 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 22:47.58 | Pkekyo | "why are you coming to a meelee-heavy raid as MS -without- Blood Frenzy?" "THIS IS A PVP CHAR SO STFU PLiX!!!!!!111" |
| 22:48.17 | Knaledge | ah, yeah |
| 22:48.31 | Knaledge | I think since he's your brother he might feel picked on so |
| 22:48.39 | Pkekyo | well, he's an obnoxious little cunt |
| 22:48.45 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork2 (n=Joshua@adsl-211-27-102.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:48.48 | Knaledge | maybe explaining calmly why it'sbetter to go PvE spec |
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| 22:48.56 | Knaledge | then PvP for PvP might be in order |
| 22:49.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: /ignore /gkick, imo |
| 22:49.50 | [dRaCo] | easy thing: if you wanna raid, spec pve. if you dont, you wont raid. |
| 22:49.54 | Pkekyo | well, he's filthy fucking rich, so doing a quick respecc to help the guild out shouldn't be too hard...I ought to go into the neighbouring room and slap the shit outta him...whatever I ask him to do, he does the absolute oposite, just to annoy me |
| 22:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | shit, he's in the same house as you, welll there's no excuse, beat him. |
| 22:50.21 | Knaledge | well it's because you are possibly trying too hard to assert some authority |
| 22:50.24 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: gonna see what I can do about that after gruul's |
| 22:50.35 | Pkekyo | Knaledge: no, in general I don't give a shit... |
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| 22:50.49 | Knaledge | seriously taking the time to calmly go over and show him the difference and let him know about PvE vs PvP might help |
| 22:50.55 | WobWork | well |
| 22:51.01 | WobWork | considering sibling rivalry |
| 22:51.06 | Knaledge | well yeah |
| 22:51.08 | WobWork | it could include the gentle application of fists |
| 22:51.10 | Knaledge | I deal with it too |
| 22:51.18 | Knaledge | my younger brother also plays a rogue |
| 22:51.20 | WobWork | which could be theraputic! |
| 22:51.29 | Amorphous | i have this patch for some addon and the authors name from the .toc, how do i find out how i can contact him to get that patch to him? |
| 22:51.39 | WobWork | Amorphous: which addon? |
| 22:51.40 | Pkekyo | pulling gruul again, will be back after the next wipe |
| 22:51.53 | WobWork | Pkekyo: That's the spirit! Think positive! =) |
| 22:51.56 | Amorphous | WobWork, FuBar_TimerFu |
| 22:52.00 | Knaledge | if I were asked to... rollback an addon? |
| 22:52.05 | Knaledge | how do I do that in SVN? |
| 22:52.13 | WobWork | Knaledge: check out a previous version |
| 22:52.18 | WobWork | and commit it back in again |
| 22:52.28 | WobWork | Amorphous: no email in the toc? |
| 22:52.29 | Knaledge | well I mean moreso for me, locally |
| 22:52.34 | Knaledge | I don't need to push it back again |
| 22:52.44 | Knaledge | just need to rollback my own copy so I can you know... not crash |
| 22:52.46 | WobWork | Just check out a previous version then =) |
| 22:52.49 | Amorphous | WobWork, nope and neither anywhere else in the addons own files |
| 22:52.56 | Knaledge | how do I do that? lol |
| 22:53.05 | WobWork | perhaps post a topic on the board? |
| 22:53.06 | Knaledge | I've only got scripts for pulling fresh and updating |
| 22:53.12 | WobWork | s/board/forum/ |
| 22:53.35 | aestil | lets duel! |
| 22:53.42 | WobWork | Knaledge: you can use svn checkout -v<number here> http://etcetcetc blah/ |
| 22:53.43 | aestil | !c us darkspear aestil |
| 22:53.47 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 9281 HP; 9375 Mana; 179 mana regen; 35 mp5; 101 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 931 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (985); 164 shadow dmg (1095); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1035 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 13:58:12 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:53.50 | Amorphous | *sigh* so much work for getting such a little fix for a bug in :( |
| 22:54.04 | WobWork | What's the fix? |
| 22:54.06 | Knaledge | !c us arygos velth |
| 22:54.10 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Velth, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (5/31/25). 9424 HP; 1704 AP; 386.400 Melee DPS; 29.72% melee crit; 220 melee hit; 27.61% dodge; 133 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1742 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvlq4m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/383bc4 ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 13:58:35 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:54.26 | aestil | !vs us arygos velth us darkspear aestil |
| 22:54.28 | ThraeBot | aestil: Velth vs Aestil! A L70 rogue and a L70 priest square off!; 5/31/25 vs 19/0/42; Velth wins by 699 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 22:54.32 | Amorphous | WobWork, missing lib in embeds.xml |
| 22:54.33 | aestil | woot! |
| 22:54.42 | Nefarion | lol |
| 22:55.12 | WobWork | Amorphous: lemme check who last committed to it |
| 22:55.34 | Funkeh` | later |
| 22:55.40 | WobWork | Looks to be Jerry |
| 22:55.47 | Amorphous | is also the author |
| 22:56.15 | |Stan| | is there a guide for void reaver trashmobs? |
| 22:56.19 | WobWork | last committed... a couple of months ago |
| 22:56.28 | WobWork | Amorphous: have you an svn account? |
| 22:57.19 | Amorphous | nope |
| 22:57.35 | WobWork | send it to me at wobster at gmail |
| 22:57.44 | Amorphous | commmiting it myself would probably be the fastest aproach :P |
| 22:57.56 | Amorphous | WobWork, ok, thank you |
| 22:58.17 | Pkekyo | back....about my brother, it's not just this, he's a cunt no matter what the issue is |
| 22:58.22 | Knaledge | wobwork: I get this |
| 22:58.29 | Knaledge | Subcommand 'checkout' doesn't accept option '-v [--verbose]' |
| 22:58.33 | Knaledge | script is |
| 22:58.47 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.40 | WobWork | oh |
| 22:59.42 | WobWork | -r |
| 22:59.43 | WobWork | sorry |
| 22:59.45 | Pkekyo | 50g repairs this gruul run :) |
| 22:59.49 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.51 | Knaledge | ? |
| 22:59.57 | WobWork | aye I think... |
| 22:59.57 | Knaledge | with a space? |
| 23:00.03 | WobWork | Do you have tortoisesvn? =) |
| 23:00.07 | WobWork | it'd make it easier =) |
| 23:00.17 | Knaledge | err.. |
| 23:00.21 | Knaledge | I have... |
| 23:00.24 | Knaledge | subversion? |
| 23:00.30 | WobWork | nm then |
| 23:00.43 | NightHawkTheSane | cli options and their parameters are not required to have a space between them in most cli apps. |
| 23:00.51 | Pkekyo | huh, just found out gruul can crush you for 20k in zerkerstance |
| 23:01.09 | aestil | lots of bosses can crush you, for that much. in general. don't pull aggro? :) |
| 23:01.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: if you're using svn via cli, check out svn help, it's very complete./ |
| 23:01.18 | Knaledge | wobwork: that worked, thank you |
| 23:01.29 | Pkekyo | aestil: I'm the tank...don't pull aggro? :p |
| 23:01.37 | aestil | then why were you in zerker? |
| 23:01.43 | aestil | against gruul? |
| 23:02.00 | Pkekyo | had been combatressed, was about to start execute spam, but everyone else had died, so meh... |
| 23:02.09 | CIA-7 | 03yhwh * r53886 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-zhCN.lua: |
| 23:02.09 | CIA-7 | FuBar_DurabilityFu: |
| 23:02.09 | CIA-7 | - update zhCN localization |
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| 23:02.44 | WobWork | c-res in gruul doesn't often help much =\ |
| 23:02.51 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 23:02.52 | WobWork | since you -really- need that aggro ceiling |
| 23:03.05 | Pkekyo | could've helped if I'd popped recklessness and executespammed though |
| 23:03.13 | aestil | skip gruul IMO and start hydross. |
| 23:03.16 | WobWork | I would say you're going to have to kick up a stink |
| 23:03.21 | Pkekyo | aestil: why? |
| 23:03.22 | WobWork | and throw a tanty |
| 23:03.35 | aestil | after hydross is lurker. |
| 23:03.36 | WobWork | and say fuck you guys, if you don't lrn2play, I'm gonig home =P |
| 23:03.39 | aestil | lurker is cake. |
| 23:03.46 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 23:03.52 | Pkekyo | if only I had a mic :p |
| 23:04.11 | aestil | start killing VR and solarian, both of which are easily killable for a killed in kara epics |
| 23:04.15 | WobWork | If they can't figure out how to position themselves for gruul |
| 23:04.20 | WobWork | what chance have they for lurker? |
| 23:04.21 | aestil | get T5 shoulders, get some good dps and healer gear. |
| 23:04.27 | aestil | kill Hydross [will take a while. |
| 23:04.31 | aestil | kill lurker and al'ar |
| 23:04.35 | aestil | focus on SSC for a while |
| 23:04.37 | WobWork | If they can't figure out how to position themselves for gruul |
| 23:04.38 | WobWork | what chance have they for lurker? |
| 23:04.48 | aestil | lurker is easy |
| 23:04.48 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r660 10/trunk/Quelevel/Quelevel.lua: Quel'evel - Adding tag for daily quests. |
| 23:04.50 | aestil | you back up |
| 23:04.57 | aestil | and then you've positioned yourself correctly. |
| 23:05.00 | WobWork | we're talking about melee standing in front of gruul |
| 23:05.07 | WobWork | being stupid =P |
| 23:05.17 | aestil | *shrugs* l2get a better guild i guess. |
| 23:05.23 | WobWork | basically =) |
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| 23:10.14 | RaydenUni | is banzailib still what's used for pitbull and stuff? |
| 23:10.19 | RaydenUni | hasnt been updated in over a month |
| 23:10.32 | Pkekyo | aestil: problem is, we don't have enough members to do 25mans atm |
| 23:10.44 | aestil | gruul is 25 man. |
| 23:11.08 | Pkekyo | aestil: ninjaing healers and a couple of DPS from another guild |
| 23:11.43 | Pkekyo | there's like 18-19 people from my guild, and 6 randomass people we've pretty much never played with before |
| 23:12.29 | Pkekyo | last time, we brought a rogue with riding crop and a lock with insigna of the horde /facepalm |
| 23:12.29 | aestil | wow. we just pushed past 200 [lots of alts though] |
| 23:12.35 | aestil | and are starting a second team for ssc. |
| 23:12.41 | Nefarion | RaydenUni, yes. And there's no reason to update something that's not broken. |
| 23:12.51 | aestil | so that when we push into hyjal/bt we have people with gear and are attuned. |
| 23:13.18 | Pkekyo | aestil: like 5-10% of the current guild members has been offline for months now |
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| 23:14.39 | Pkekyo | so we're pretty much pidgeonholed into dicking about in kara with the occasional gruul attempt |
| 23:14.50 | aestil | get a few more people. |
| 23:15.15 | aestil | although, gruul and kara are really crappy content overall, i didn't like those. |
| 23:15.18 | aestil | mag was a bit better. |
| 23:15.21 | aestil | vashj was alot of fun. |
| 23:15.27 | aestil | we might get KT tonight. we are really close. |
| 23:15.56 | RaydenUni | <Nefarion> RaydenUni, yes. And there's no reason to update something that's not broken. <-- k just wondering |
| 23:16.04 | RaydenUni | it makes sense |
| 23:16.07 | [dRaCo] | i like karazhan, it's fun... |
| 23:16.16 | RaydenUni | but if something doesn't get updated in a long time it's one sign it may be obsolete |
| 23:16.28 | RaydenUni | i'm enjoying KZ so far |
| 23:16.33 | RaydenUni | only killed attumen and moroes though |
| 23:16.36 | Moozh | KH2? |
| 23:16.38 | Moozh | oh |
| 23:16.40 | Moozh | i read wrong |
| 23:16.49 | Moozh | >.> |
| 23:16.49 | Pkekyo | I'm so fucking bloody sick of kara, the wall textures make my eyes bleed |
| 23:16.53 | aestil | i think prince is a terrible encounter |
| 23:16.59 | aestil | it was cool inititally. |
| 23:17.06 | aestil | i'm pretty excited about lvl 80 naxx. |
| 23:17.16 | aestil | still the best dungeon i've been in so far. overall. |
| 23:17.18 | Ellipsis | k guildies and I just wiped to ony |
| 23:17.26 | aestil | how many guildies? |
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| 23:17.43 | Ellipsis | 5 |
| 23:19.44 | Nefarion | microsoft sucks. |
| 23:19.46 | Nefarion | that is all |
| 23:19.47 | dreamss | prince is an awesome fight |
| 23:19.49 | dreamss | pfft |
| 23:20.11 | JoshBorke | pie is good |
| 23:20.54 | aestil | prince? awesome fight? |
| 23:20.56 | aestil | wow. |
| 23:21.10 | WobWork | Amorphous: going to send that patch to me? |
| 23:21.12 | aestil | how can compelete randomness be considered awesome. |
| 23:21.14 | Nefarion | it will no longer let me register Lua files to be opened in notepad++, because i moved the location of the program. (browsing to it in the open-with pane doesn't do shit.) |
| 23:21.20 | Nefarion | xp that is |
| 23:21.26 | WobWork | prince can be irritaging |
| 23:21.48 | Amorphous | WobWork, oh *g* was going to take my time... i'll do it just away then |
| 23:21.57 | dreamss | its a good training fight were ur raid has to listen and move |
| 23:22.07 | aestil | yeah. |
| 23:22.14 | aestil | except its a terrible encounter |
| 23:22.15 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather tredoras |
| 23:22.18 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Tredoras, Level 70 Orc Warrior (8/1/52). 13144 HP; 14972 Armour; 774 AP; 137.300 Melee DPS; 8.78% melee crit; 26 melee hit; 289 defense; 16.16% dodge; 18.34% block; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 1652 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ccobc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u29uw ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 14:26:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:22.19 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather ultravoice |
| 23:22.22 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Ultravoice, Level 70 Orc Warrior (47/3/11). 10874 HP; 9574 Armour; 1264 AP; 209.900 Melee DPS; 23.17% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 103 defense; 7.20% dodge; 7.20% block; 162 resilience;[[ TBR: 2135 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytfhgr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vrlny ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 14:26:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:22.24 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather iammean |
| 23:22.27 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Iammean, Level 70 Undead Warrior (5/41/15). 7664 HP; 7270 Armour; 1272 AP; 156.800 Melee DPS; 22.31% melee crit; 189 melee hit; 9.44% dodge; 10.32% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1355 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gqkoh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3atg ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 14:26:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:22.27 | WobWork | the randomness makes it horrible =( |
| 23:22.43 | WobWork | Pkekyo: privmsg thraebot plz =P |
| 23:23.05 | Pkekyo | WobWork: can't :< |
| 23:23.06 | dreamss | dunno... i mean u can get unlucky with crshings but bleh |
| 23:23.11 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 23:23.14 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 7651 HP; 7575 Mana; 140 mana regen; 24 mp5; 89 spell crit; 93 spell hit; 807 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (986); 218 shadow dmg (1025); 4.82% dodge; 22 resilience;[[ TBR: 1140 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 14:27:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:23.15 | JoshBorke | WobWork: :-P |
| 23:23.16 | Knaledge | !vs us arygos velth eu bloodfeather ultravoice |
| 23:23.18 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Velth vs Ultravoice! A L70 rogue and a L70 warrior square off!; 5/31/25 vs 47/3/11; Ultravoice wins by 393 TBRs! |
| 23:23.25 | Knaledge | close |
| 23:25.06 | Pkekyo | how much mitigation does one have to have to become 'uncrushable'? (theoretically speaking) |
| 23:25.44 | aestil | i dunno, pallies get uncrushable eaiser. |
| 23:25.55 | aestil | but anything past 25% block isn't needed i believe. |
| 23:26.12 | Amorphous | WobWork, mail sent |
| 23:26.16 | WobWork | ta |
| 23:27.36 | Pkekyo | I'm at 76,83% total mitigation (not counting armor) now |
| 23:27.50 | WobWork | Amorphous: hum |
| 23:27.57 | Nefarion | wow an untalented 60 |
| 23:27.59 | Nefarion | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Greymane&n=Streusel |
| 23:28.29 | Nefarion | !vs us greymane streusel us dath'remar lachthegreat |
| 23:28.34 | ThraeBot | Nefarion: Streusel vs Lachthegreat! Lachthegreat has +10 lvls on Streusel (60 vs 70); A L60 rogue and a L70 hunter square off!; 0/0/0 vs 43/18/0; Lachthegreat wins by 751 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 23:28.45 | Amorphous | WobWork, ? |
| 23:29.01 | aestil | we hope to kill KT before they nerf him |
| 23:29.01 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather Lenny |
| 23:29.04 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Lenny, Level 70 Troll Priest (14/0/47). 7931 HP; 8460 Mana; 254 mana regen; 80 mp5; 110 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 891 +spell dmg/heal; 263 frost dmg (1154); 435 shadow dmg (1326); 80 fire dmg (971); 6.02% dodge; 18 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 954 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cqdmu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34zdap ][ Updated: Sun Nov 4 14:33:30 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:29.11 | aestil | 10% nerf of P2 and P3 will make it noticeablly easier |
| 23:29.16 | Jaxon | Pkekyo: warriors need 490 defense and with Shield Block active are uncrushable. |
| 23:29.30 | Pkekyo | Jaxon: without any skill modifiers... |
| 23:29.46 | Jaxon | Skill modifiers? |
| 23:29.51 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r53887 10FuBar_TimerFu/embeds.xml: FuBar_TimerFu: added in dewdrop to embeds.xml |
| 23:29.56 | Pkekyo | like shield block etc |
| 23:30.02 | Jaxon | What class are you? |
| 23:30.03 | Pkekyo | just plain unbuffed mitigation |
| 23:30.06 | Pkekyo | warrior |
| 23:30.13 | Jaxon | You aren't uncrushable without shield block. |
| 23:30.14 | WobWork | Amorphous: Or just mentioned that Dewdrop line was missing =) |
| 23:30.17 | Jaxon | Blocked hits can't be crushings |
| 23:30.31 | Pkekyo | Jaxon: I know the base crush mechanics |
| 23:30.36 | Jaxon | And the defense cap is 490, and boss level mobs will still have a chance to crush. |
| 23:30.51 | Pkekyo | however, one is considered crush immune at 102.4% full mitigation |
| 23:31.05 | Jaxon | Good luck with that. |
| 23:31.06 | Pkekyo | pally in my guild's at 95.84% now |
| 23:31.16 | Amorphous | yea |
| 23:31.19 | Pkekyo | I'm at 76,83% myself |
| 23:31.23 | Pkekyo | meh |
| 23:31.44 | Jaxon | You are "crush immune" because you aren't getting hit, you are mitigating the hits before they even get a chance to land. |
| 23:32.02 | Jaxon | Thats like saying "If I had 200,000 AC, I am unkillable" until you fight a caster mob. |
| 23:32.10 | Amorphous | fish.wowace.com is borked :( |
| 23:32.23 | JoshBorke | Jaxon: thas' what reflective shield is for :-P |
| 23:32.25 | Pkekyo | you will still be hit, block does not remove incoming attacks |
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| 23:37.02 | Nefarion | okay, since there's no documentation at all.... what does ccbreaker do? how exactly does it display who breaks cc effects? |
| 23:37.13 | Pkekyo | text message |
| 23:37.37 | Speeddymon | does running ReloadUI() reload just the lua files, or does it get the XML ones too? |
| 23:37.50 | Nefarion | chat message, /say? |
| 23:37.53 | Pkekyo | Nefaarion: the name of the breaker and the name of the spell broken appears in orange, whilst the rest of the text '[Name's] [spell] was broken by [Name] |
| 23:37.53 | nevcairiel | the .xml too |
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| 23:38.09 | Nefarion | Speeddymon, everything. Images, sounds, XML, Lua... |
| 23:38.16 | Pkekyo | rest of the text appears in white* |
| 23:38.25 | Speeddymon | all except for the toc, right? |
| 23:38.33 | Nefarion | not too sure about the TOC |
| 23:38.36 | Nefarion | never tested it |
| 23:38.41 | nevcairiel | it should read the .toc too |
| 23:38.46 | nevcairiel | it just doesnt read new files |
| 23:39.00 | Nefarion | yeah, a file must exist on launch for it to be recognized by wow |
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| 23:39.15 | Speeddymon | ah thats it.. so it will see the change but wont process it because the file didnt already exist.. gotchya |
| 23:41.40 | WobWork | hehe |
| 23:41.44 | WobWork | nice hunter arena tip |
| 23:42.02 | WobWork | to get the opponent aoe'r to waste mana, buy a pet snake |
| 23:42.06 | WobWork | and drop it midcombat |
| 23:42.16 | WobWork | and also hook it to your snaketrap button |
| 23:42.50 | WobWork | so they waste an aoe trying to kill either the snake trap they're expecting, or the one that they missed =P |
| 23:43.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:48.01 | Nefarion | haha that is a nice tip |
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| 23:58.21 | Amorphous | Arrowmaster, would you be the right person to ask to add Babble-Class-2.2 to X-Embeds of Cartographer_GuildPositions (or whatever the correct fix is) see http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-177 or one of it's duplicates? |
| 23:58.50 | Arrowmaster | i could look at it later |
| 23:58.53 | nevcairiel | isnt guildpositions in the base Cartographer distribution? |
| 23:58.54 | Arrowmaster | raiding right now |
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| 23:59.12 | Amorphous | nevcairiel, yes |
| 23:59.21 | Arrowmaster | but yeah it should be in the core cartographer so it shouldnt need X-Embeds |
| 23:59.51 | Amorphous | Arrowmaster, then it might need to be in Cartographer X-Embeds |
| 23:59.58 | nevcairiel | it is |
